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Title: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on November 09, 2006, 10:44:31 PM
Might as well get it started.
Any news on build up to this weekends games?
Killeavy beat Silverbridge? any word on Clann Eireann game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: say nothin on November 09, 2006, 10:54:35 PM
not really interested in games above, just testing my account holy..

:-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Horatio Kane on November 10, 2006, 09:44:33 AM
Hope to get to Cross for the double header.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on November 10, 2006, 10:40:18 AM

Are there u21 fixtures going ahead this weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 10, 2006, 01:40:56 PM
What time are the agmes in Cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on November 10, 2006, 01:45:55 PM
Hey Guys, I'm here! Normal service resummed!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 10, 2006, 01:48:39 PM
Good lad Rufus, glad to see they finally let you in
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on November 10, 2006, 01:50:29 PM
Yeah, they can't keep a good man down!  ;) Well not for long anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on November 10, 2006, 02:25:25 PM
I don't think its the The Real Rufus lads, this one seems to have the smell of green and gold.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on November 10, 2006, 10:14:32 PM
Armagh Under-21 Football Championship Preliminary Round (12.00)
Pearse Og v Oliver Plunkett's (Gary Smith)
Whitecross v St Paul's (Noel Martin)
St John's v Carrickcruppen (Kevin Gallogly)
Granemore v Crossmaglen (Off)
Shane O'Neill's v St Patrick's (Kevin McNeice)
Killeavey v Dromintee (Rory Robinson)
Sarsfields v Madden (Henry McCloy)
Clann Eireann v Clan na Gael (Jim Burns)
Wolfe Tones v Tir na nÓg (Paul Boylan)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on November 11, 2006, 04:29:39 PM
Silverbridge beat Killeavy well in Div 2 play off semi final, poor Killeavy performance
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 11, 2006, 04:39:09 PM
The bridge beat Killeavy by 6 points.   ;D

I never thought we'd do it and certainly not in the way we did! We were excellent and Killeavy flopped. 
We played against the wind in the first half but led at half time by 3. 
Killeavy got off to good start with two points but then we came into it when Cormac McEvoy went through on goal and was dragged to the ground. Ciaran Conlon stuck away the penalty. Despite the wind we picked off a few scores and kept close to Killeavy then just before half time we got another goal when the ball was worked up the field from the full back line in maybe ten passes to be tucked into the bottom corner by D McCann.
Teams evenly matched in the second half but we held on to the lead then maybe fifteen minutes in we found the net again.  A long ball in found Liam Cambell who caught it on the run and buried it. Killeavy piled on the pressure but our boys soaked it up and Eugene Byrne put on a shooting display with 3 fine points.  Killeavy played the last 5 minutes with 14 men when one of their boys decked D McCann off the ball, straight red. 

McDonnell done nothing, spent most of the game in Niall Reel's arse pocket. He was moved into the middle of the field for the last ten minutes and didn't do much there either.
Stanfield looked more dangerous but he spent most of the game in Pete McCresh's arse pocket.  He was also moved into the middle of the field for the last five minutes and didn't do anything either.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on November 11, 2006, 07:52:29 PM
Very disappointing display from Killeavy. Stevie didn't feature at all. It's all up hill now. POG was like a dog with 2 d!cks at the end.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 11, 2006, 08:17:45 PM
Quote from: SouthArmaghBandit on November 11, 2006, 07:52:29 PM
POG was like a dog with 2 d!cks at the end.
Come again?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lecale2 on November 11, 2006, 08:54:13 PM
Excellent Pint!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 12, 2006, 02:46:36 PM
Didn't know you were a fan Lecale.


Anyone any word on the U21 games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on November 12, 2006, 03:15:14 PM
Killeavy v Dromintee not played because of no ref, bit of a joke sayin U21s are already pushed for time and are squeezed into a few weeks in winter
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 12, 2006, 03:27:02 PM
Quote from: holylandsniper on November 12, 2006, 03:15:14 PM
Killeavy v Dromintee not played because of no ref, bit of a joke sayin U21s are already pushed for time and are squeezed into a few weeks in winter
>:(
I see Rory Robinson was down to do it, maybe they didn't bother to tell him.
A few weeks ago the Bridge played Keady in the senior game at two O'Clock and Rory done it. Our lads had the minor playoff over in Mullaghbawn at half 4 and he was in the paper to do it.  It was mentioned to him after the senior game and he knew nothing about it but to everyone's surprise he appeared out at quarter to five to do the minor game too.   ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on November 12, 2006, 09:43:06 PM
Any Armagh club results?
Checked with Aertel but nothing only last weekends results.
Anyone help an exile?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on November 12, 2006, 10:07:35 PM
Quote
Killeavy v Dromintee not played because of no ref, bit of a joke sayin U21s are already pushed for time and are squeezed into a few weeks in winter

Ditto Tír na nÓg v Wolfe Tones, no show by the referee. Any other results?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 12, 2006, 10:11:58 PM
QuoteDitto Tír na nÓg v Wolfe Tones, no show by the referee. Any other results?

What? No ref showed for that one either? Are you taking the piss?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on November 12, 2006, 10:25:36 PM
That's right pint, waited until after 12.30 then everyone went home.

He probably did us a favour as we were missing 7/8 first team starters.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 13, 2006, 08:28:25 AM
Any word of when the Culloville & Clann Eireann game is on?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on November 13, 2006, 08:32:06 AM
Lads, big Joe's new contract already affecting the county boards running of competitions, no refs at 2 championship games, seriously how much of a disgrace is that,
Title: U21 Championship
Post by: BenDover on November 13, 2006, 11:05:53 AM
Lads any results from the weekends games?

The Ogs hammered Oliver Plunketts 3-18 to 1-7 i think
Title: benDover
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 13, 2006, 01:18:33 PM
So no drink yesterday for u then?  where u at the match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on November 13, 2006, 03:57:01 PM
QuoteAny word of when the Culloville & Clann Eireann game is on?
HAs to go to County board meeting, sensible thing would be let Cullavile in to play Carrickcruppen.
Organisation & County Board dont work out, 2 games in 1 day, with only a handful on in total
Title: Re: benDover
Post by: BenDover on November 13, 2006, 04:01:55 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on November 13, 2006, 01:18:33 PM
So no drink yesterday for u then?  where u at the match?

Ah now El Cuervo had a few jars jst to send the boys of in good fashion! And thanks to the help of Spirit managed to win myself a bottle of Bernie's smuggled imported Vodka  ;). (Mind u I wasn't allowed to open it in the Bar  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 13, 2006, 06:15:20 PM
Quote from: full back on November 13, 2006, 08:28:25 AM
Any word of when the Culloville & Clann Eireann game is on?
I heard it was to be replayed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on November 13, 2006, 06:21:30 PM
Always nice to help, it was pure smirnoff my friend, next time your name will be left out of the hat.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 13, 2006, 06:43:42 PM
Sunday 19th November
Under-21 Football Championship – 1st Round (2.00)
St John's v Carrickcruppen (Kevin Gallogly)
Granemore v Crossmaglen (Rory Robinson)
Killeavey v Dromintee (Eamon Nugent)
Clann Eireann v Clan na Gael (Jim Burns)
Wolfe Tones v Tir na nÓg (Paul Boylan)

Under-21 Football Championship – 2nd Round (2.00)
An Port Mor v St Peter's (Oliver Hearty)
Whitecross v Keady (Jimmy McKee)
Culloville v Silverbridge (Seamus O'Neill)
Pearse Og v St Patrick's (Mickey Leonard)
Harps v Ballymacnab (Dessie McDonnell)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 14, 2006, 01:10:38 PM
I was talking to Gregory Walsh last night (the guy who refereed the Eirgal and Eniskillen game live on TG4 on Sun) he knew he made a big mistake by booking a player twice and failed to send him off, he said he meant to just tick him the second time. Did any of you's watch the game and notice it? and if so how did he perform throughout the rest of the game as i missed it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 14, 2006, 01:13:30 PM
Such a strange post on the Armagh club page.  I didn't see the whole match, just what the tv showed in clips.  but he still should have been off. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 14, 2006, 01:25:20 PM
With Ballymacnab playing in the Ulster Intermediate on Sunday I assume their under 21 game will be called off.Any word on this yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 14, 2006, 02:33:34 PM
Quote from: full back on November 14, 2006, 01:25:20 PM
With Ballymacnab playing in the Ulster Intermediate on Sunday I assume their under 21 game will be called off.Any word on this yet?

I'd like to think this would be the case as the Cross Vs Granemore U21 match was called of on Sunday due to Cross' Senior commitments. Or else it could be a case of double standards frm the county board
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on November 14, 2006, 03:27:18 PM

surely any club involved in these god awful play offs should have their u21 games off to then or its double standards?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on November 14, 2006, 06:39:23 PM
Quoteelse it could be a case of double standards frm the county board
Our county board wouldnt be at that, would it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 14, 2006, 06:51:34 PM
Uladh
Quotesurely any club involved in these god awful play offs should have their u21 games off to then or its double standards?
Did you not speak in favour of them a while back?

I was surprised Killeavy was expected to play us on saturday and then in the u21 on sunday. 
With the length of time it's going to take them to sort out Clann Eireann and Cullaville we might as well get a round of the championship played.


And I nearly forgot! If someone has a bit of time maybe they could head to the Rangers and teach Donal Murtagh a thing or two about being gracious in victory, according to him in the Mirror today cross "cruised" the county championship.   :-\
::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on November 14, 2006, 09:08:54 PM

no pint... i hated them from the start
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 15, 2006, 09:29:00 AM
Quote from: holylandsniper on November 14, 2006, 06:39:23 PM
Quoteelse it could be a case of double standards frm the county board
Our county board wouldnt be at that, would it?

Only when Cross are concerned  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 15, 2006, 01:10:01 PM
What was so strange about that? he does afterall ref games in Armagh, he done a few games that i played in last year and i do know the fella so i think that entitles the issue to be on the Armagh page ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 15, 2006, 01:14:17 PM
I concur with illdecide sort it out el_cuervo  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 15, 2006, 01:23:12 PM
I must take this opportunity to whole heartedly apologise to 'illdecide'.  My comments were perhaps a tad hasty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on November 15, 2006, 01:36:54 PM

Where is gregory walsh from and why would he be relevent to armagh club football?

for what its worth, i thought he was terrible on sunday. he blew everything, allowing no leeway for conditions. he embarked on a lecture to the tackler after every foul he gave and in doing so punished the team in posession by not allowing the free to be taken until he had finished his chat and added another 20 secs of close up time on the telly.

The amount of times i screamed at the the tellly " let the f**king game go you w*nker" or "get off the stage let them play football" are too numerous to count.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on November 15, 2006, 01:37:32 PM
Hasty - Typical form from an Ogs man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 15, 2006, 01:43:49 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on November 15, 2006, 01:37:32 PM
Hasty - Typical form from an Ogs man.

Sssshhhh... i'll tell Nora
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on November 15, 2006, 01:49:00 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on November 15, 2006, 01:43:49 PM


Sssshhhh... i'll tell Nora

You have nothing on me, but I've plenty on you.
;) :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 15, 2006, 01:49:42 PM
Doubt it. I'm a gentleman
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 15, 2006, 01:58:09 PM
Mr Walsh is from Aghagallon (St Marys, Aghagallon, Co Antrim for some of you that have never been up around those neck of the woods). Your a very nasty guy el_cuervo_fc, did that last guy say you were an Ogs man or an Ogre ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 15, 2006, 02:03:04 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 15, 2006, 01:58:09 PM
Mr Walsh is from Aghagallon (St Marys, Aghagallon, Co Antrim for some of you that have never been up around those neck of the woods). Your a very nasty guy el_cuervo_fc, did that last guy say you were an Ogs man or an Ogre ;)

Ach now.....did you not get my apology??? tut tut tut
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 15, 2006, 06:39:07 PM
Lads, please keep the personal chat of the thread.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on November 15, 2006, 06:50:45 PM
B final tomorrow night pints v Dromintee in Ballymacnab
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 15, 2006, 07:01:18 PM
Quote from: holylandsniper on November 15, 2006, 06:50:45 PM
B final tomorrow night pints v Dromintee in Ballymacnab
Forgot about that, I don't know if i'll get down to it. It would be great if we could do the double.
Title: Armagh Team 2007
Post by: Orior on November 15, 2006, 08:09:59 PM
Anyone think we should try out Paul McGrane at full back in the McKenna cup?
Title: Re: Armagh Team 2007
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 15, 2006, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: Orior on November 15, 2006, 08:09:59 PM
Anyone think we should try out Paul McGrane at full back in the McKenna cup?
Who's in midfield?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on November 15, 2006, 10:16:14 PM
We need to use McKenna Cup to find new midfielders, especially if the Clady man aint gonna step up this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 16, 2006, 09:01:59 AM
Quote from: Orior on November 15, 2006, 08:09:59 PM
Anyone think we should try out Paul McGrane at full back in the McKenna cup?
If we use the McKenna Cup to unearth a new midfielder are two would it not be better to have them playing alongside someone with McGrane's experience instead of wasting him in full back?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on November 16, 2006, 09:20:18 AM
We def need McGrane at midfield but need to find another. I always thought Loughran would make it but not so sure now. Nippy is probably a bit light for midfield at the minute. Keeping Geezer there aint the answer either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on November 16, 2006, 12:00:20 PM
I know we need him in full forward but I think Clarke could be an option at midfield, a few games there in the McKenna cup might do him no harm, just for a plan b or c
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 16, 2006, 01:49:35 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on November 16, 2006, 12:00:20 PM
I know we need him in full forward but I think Clarke could be an option at midfield, a few games there in the McKenna cup might do him no harm, just for a plan b or c

I think You could be right there spirit. Clarke had a few lethal games for us a midfield after the county season finished.  I dunno if i'd like to see him there all the time though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 16, 2006, 01:59:59 PM
JK could try Clarke in midfield with an inside forward line of Stevie McD, Nippy and Peadar Toal. I could McDonnell and Nippy winning their fair share of ball with Peadar getting the breaks down in front. Just a thought
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lawnseed 2 on November 16, 2006, 06:06:50 PM
more good news from headquarters especially for small clubs. if the county hurlers get into the ulster championship they want £1000 per club to fiance their training etc better look after the balls from now on cant afford to loose any!. County squads are simply gonna have to be more self funding or clubs are going to bankrupt. its hard enough to attract committee members but when they find out that the first £7000 they raise goes to county squads its near enough impossible 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on November 16, 2006, 06:45:35 PM
Any reports on how the Armagh fared against Monaghan in a recent challenge game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 16, 2006, 07:59:54 PM
Quotemore good news from headquarters especially for small clubs. if the county hurlers get into the ulster championship they want £1000 per club to fiance their training etc better look after the balls from now on cant afford to loose any!.
What exactly are they planning to do with £45,000-£50,000?

QuoteB final tomorrow night pints v Dromintee in Ballymacnab
Couldn't go but heard we won by a point, being beat the whole way through and two points down with very little left we got a goal through a penalty.  Great achievement for our lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on November 17, 2006, 11:07:07 AM
I was at the B match between Silverbridge and Dromintee.  Dromintee lead the whole game and looked verd good in the first.  They weren't too impressive in the second and we were closing the gap the whole time.  It looked that time was going to run out on us until the ball was worked into the square via Colm Traynor and Colm Hughes to Bernard Connolly who was fouled.  Bernard himself stepped up and scored a great penalty to the keepers right to put us 1 point up.  Dromintee made a couple of attacks after that trying to level but kicked two wides.  Not a vintage performance by any means but you have to take your hat off to the boys for keeping in touch with Dromintee throughout the match and then taking their opportunity when it came.  League and championship double, good going!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 17, 2006, 11:28:10 AM
Giving the county board another £1k a year is a fcukin joke.How do they think clubs are going to survive, take out a mortgage!.My own club have to do a fierce amount of fund raising each year just to keep going at the minute, never mind give more £££.Wonder what the story is in other counties, do they have to 'donate' as much as we do each year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 17, 2006, 01:34:39 PM
What happens to any club who simply refuse to pay up the extra £1000? Full back is right, some of the smaller clubs are just about surviving without having to cough up more coupons
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 17, 2006, 02:13:45 PM
Quote from: lawnseed 2 on November 16, 2006, 06:06:50 PM
more good news from headquarters especially for small clubs. if the county hurlers get into the ulster championship they want £1000 per club to fiance their training etc better look after the balls from now on cant afford to loose any!.

does this just apply to the hurling clubs in the county? Anyway I think this is a complete disgrace forcing any club to finance a counties training etc. I don't think there are too many clubs about Armagh that can just fire £1000 at the county's hurling team which made up primarily of Keady and Middletown folk
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Redhandfan on November 18, 2006, 10:54:09 PM
An Port Mor defeated St Peters in round two of the Under 21 Championship earlier today.  The Blackwater side enjoyed home advantage and raced into a four point lead early in the second quarter.  However, St Peter's fought back to draw level at half-time.  An Port Mor, managed by Neill 'Bomber' McGleenan and his Tyrone sidekick Keith Lavery, produced a storming second half display to emerge victorious by five points.  Full forward Michael Casey was An Port Mor's star performer on a day when the winners could even afford the luxury of a missed penalty in the final quarter.
Title: u21
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 19, 2006, 04:03:20 PM
Culloville 0-8   2-10 Silverbridge

Terrible day for football but both teams played some good stuff. We played with a strong wind in the first half and used it well, Gerry McGarvey owned the middle of the field and we led at half time 1-7 to 0-2. Culloville put up a better fight in the second half but our defence and keeper were excellent, we picked off a few scores and Eugene Byrne (I think) found the net. That was it!

I heard Cross beat Granemore well.
Title: U21 results
Post by: ardasell on November 19, 2006, 05:02:48 PM
ANy word on the Killeavy Dromintee u21 game - not even sure if it could be played in that keek weather.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on November 19, 2006, 05:12:46 PM
Dromintee won by 5 I think.  Weather didnt help at all.  Though with it being moved to Dromintee field at least chances of injury were limited
Title: Killeavy Vs Dromintee
Post by: Uladh on November 19, 2006, 05:42:31 PM

Where was this game played? went to killeavy for 2 and here wasn't a sinner about?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 19, 2006, 05:48:05 PM
QuoteThough with it being moved to Dromintee field at least chances of injury were limited

Quote
Where was this game played?
I'm thinking Dromintee Uladh  ;)


Few scores from orchardcounty
St. John's beat Cruppen by a point.
Clann na gael beat clann eireann.

Ogs V St. Pats was called off.
I take it harps didn't play ballymacnab?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 19, 2006, 11:46:22 PM
tirnanog 2 6 wolfe tones 0-9.was at the game tirnanog scored a goal straight from the throwin from mcallister.they scored a
nother from james donnelly 5 minutes later.it was 2-2 to no score after that.tirnanog didnt impress me carville looked a shadow of the player he was when they won it 2 years ago,though scored a great point from the sideline.ref wasnt great.dromintee were aparantly 1-8 2 no score down at half time.doubt tirnanog go much further
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: say nothin on November 19, 2006, 11:58:11 PM
harps game off, and wont be played next week with the nab drawing in ulster club today
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 20, 2006, 08:37:45 AM
The Ogs Vs St Pat's will be played this Saturday @ Ballycrummy don't know what time yet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 20, 2006, 08:40:24 AM
Has the draw been made for the next round of the U21's.If so, who do Clann na Gael play next and what is the full draw?
Title: £1000 Donation
Post by: Cuchullainns Bhoy on November 20, 2006, 11:22:13 AM
As posted in an earlier thread, the £1000 comes from the Hurling teams within the county. The reason being as of last year the Hurling Boards control was passed to the football board as there where 'technical difficulties' within the Hurling. It appears that the county board has decided that if the Hurlers are entering Senior Chmapionship, they must pay the fee as is the norm with the football teams.
So £8000 isnt actually alot in terms of extra revenue, only poroblem here is that sokme Hurling clubs will not be able to pay up simple as that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 20, 2006, 11:48:24 AM
it doesnt matter who clans play theyl b beat anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on November 20, 2006, 12:23:00 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on November 20, 2006, 11:48:24 AM
it doesnt matter who clans play theyl b beat anyway

good man yourself. thats the stuff i like to hear...  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 20, 2006, 01:19:04 PM
Hi Charlie Stubbs, you keep talking and i'll keep shovelling.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 20, 2006, 01:26:37 PM
Are you setting the Clans up for a fall Charlie?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on November 20, 2006, 01:49:23 PM
i hear the clans will play cross next
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 20, 2006, 02:33:22 PM
the only team i could see them beating is sarsfields.when was the lastime that they had a good underage team in the last 5 6 years.do u think that coz u got to the county final it means u have a good u21 team.ohara and maybe mickey ohagan would be the only ones that started the county final u21,correct me if im wrong
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on November 20, 2006, 03:15:28 PM
your wrong.
mickey o'hagan isnt under 21
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on November 20, 2006, 03:17:35 PM
Quotedo u think that coz u got to the county final it means u have a good u21 team

oh and by the way. when did anyone say this? the fella only asked did anyone know the draw and who did the clans play next ffs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on November 20, 2006, 04:17:02 PM
Clans actually pushed the Harps very hard in the 1/4 final last year and the Harps went on to win it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue Boy on November 20, 2006, 09:11:08 PM
From Setanta.com

Kernan: 2007 will be my final year


Armagh Senior football manager Joe Kernan has confirmed to Setanta Sports that 2007 will be his final year at the Orchard County helm.

The Crossmaglen man extended his stay for a sixth year in September but has now revealed that it will be his last stint in the hotseat.

Kernan led Armagh to a first ever All-Ireland title in 2002 before affecting a stranglehold on the Ulster Senior Football Championship, which has now seen them collect six provincial crowns in eight years.

"The one thing we know is that when we go Armagh will be left in good hands," said Kernan.

"There will be no need to go around looking for a new manager like in Mayo at the minute where everything is up in the air. You don't need that.

"We need to keep the ship steady and keep the players believing. Hopefully in 12 months, and I'd like to think it would be late in September that I step down."

The 1977 All-Ireland finalist also intimated that his new assistant manager John Rafferty will take the reins when he steps down next year. Rafferty, who steered Antrim side St Gall's to the AIB All-Ireland Club title, took over from Paul Grimley as Kernan's right-hand man two months ago.

"From what I've seen, and I knew him when he was a young lad playing for Armagh, I'm going to enjoy working with John over the next 12 months," added Kernan.

"Certainly my days as a manager are numbered because I always feel it's better to go before you're chased."

Team trainer John McCloskey will remain part of the county's backroom team for another year as Armagh look to secure a second-ever Sam Maguire Cup.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lawnseed 2 on November 21, 2006, 12:30:43 AM
SHOULD HAVE BEEN CHASED ALONG TIME AGO.  ;) FORMER ARMAGH MANAGER JIM MC CORRY IS REPORTED TO BE TAKING THE REINS AT LAST YEARS INTERMEDIATE CHAMPIONS INNISKEEN, IN MONAGHAN. HES HAD SUCESS SINCE LEAVING THE ARMAGH HOTSEAT  WITH MAYOBRIDGE AND QUEENS? I THINK. DESPITE THIS HE WASNT THE FARNEY MENS FIRST CHOICE WHO WERE KEEN TO ENLIST SOMEONE FROM THE CURRENT ARMAGH SET-UP
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 21, 2006, 08:34:49 AM
Wonder if Grimley would be interested in taking over from Joe? And is John Raff up to the job of filling JK boots just because he GOT TO an all-ireland club with St Galls

Cheers Benny
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on November 21, 2006, 08:38:27 AM
i get the feeling that if grimley was rumoured to be anywhere takin the armagh hotseat joe would re-consider and stay on!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 21, 2006, 11:09:18 AM
Quote from: BenDover on November 21, 2006, 08:34:49 AM
And is John Raff up to the job of filling JK boots just because he won an all-ireland club with St Galls

Got to an All-Ireland final with St Galls would be more accurate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on November 21, 2006, 02:06:10 PM
So basically he has got rid of Grimley, brought in Rafferty who has been training with the team for say 4 weeks and he then indicates that Rafferty should be his successor, bloody stinks to me. Rafferty might prove to be the man for the job but to reccomend him a few weeks after he is appointed as his assistant is reminiscent of a departing dictator setting up a leadership that he can influence from a far.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lawnseed 2 on November 21, 2006, 06:03:33 PM
i wonder if hes any cheaper than joe, he'll do well to get to get any la manga trips.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 22, 2006, 10:43:59 AM
Neil Lennon: Right lads before you try to take the middle out of me for posting soccer issues on the board, i think the Lurgan hero deserves some credit for what he has achieved in the game. After all he did play with Geezer and Co in the Armagh minor team and played up to minor with Clan na Gael, so his GAA roots cannot be questioned. We are definitely proud to say he is a Clan na Gael man and there are not to many GAA clubs in Armagh who can say one of their players will be playing in the knockout stages of the champions league. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on November 22, 2006, 10:51:03 AM
Here, Here illdecide, and while wer at it good luck to former Harps Under 10 Terry Henry, the Arsenal striker ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 22, 2006, 11:17:52 AM
All the best to the former under 15 Armagh development squad player Benny Mc Carthy :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 22, 2006, 11:38:05 AM
How silly of me to forget about those two players :o didn't realise. They got a good tan up in Armagh, them were the days when the sun shone all summer
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on November 22, 2006, 03:22:54 PM
Now that Ballymacnab have been stalled in the UIFC, will the Harps v Nab U-21 C'ship game be played this weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 22, 2006, 04:28:09 PM
Im sure the Harps will wait til after the outcome of sundays events before taking the field bearing in mind there could be a number of suspensions dished out to the nab, making an easier progression for them into the semi's :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 23, 2006, 09:51:57 AM
Anymore word on the Ballymacnab suspensions
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: blueskinn on November 23, 2006, 10:23:20 AM
latest on the nab is that all players have been called before the ulster council on monday night in the armagh hotel.
it will be up to the county board to set a date and the harps will play it whenever!!!! suspensions or no suspensions
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 23, 2006, 11:10:40 AM
any odds on the u-21 championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: blueskinn on November 23, 2006, 12:53:46 PM
Finished before xmas 10/1

Abandoned 4/6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on November 23, 2006, 07:26:26 PM
I have heard very positive things about the natural ability of young Toal of Armagh Harps but that attude may be a problem.  Has he that much potential?  Can he become a senior regular?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 23, 2006, 07:36:05 PM
Quote from: Imposerous on November 23, 2006, 07:26:26 PM
I have heard very positive things about the natural ability of young Toal of Armagh Harps but that attude may be a problem.  Has he that much potential?  Can he become a senior regular?
If what I hear (about his attitude)  is true I wouldn't let him have a club jersery never mind a county one.

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latest on the nab is that all players have been called before the ulster council on monday night in the armagh hotel.
it will be up to the county board to set a date and the harps will play it whenever!!!! suspensions or no suspensions
Am I the only one that didn't think it was that bad? Just seemed like a lot of pushing and shoving. 
It pisses me off  that Nab will play in ulster and u21 championship with whatever suspensions they get and St. Pats have been able to play relegation playoffs and the u21 championship and still haven't received their suspensions from a game that took place months ago!  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on November 24, 2006, 08:34:40 AM
Quote
latest on the nab is that all players have been called before the ulster council on monday night in the armagh hotel.
it will be up to the county board to set a date and the harps will play it whenever!!!! suspensions or no suspensions
Am I the only one that didn't think it was that bad? Just seemed like a lot of pushing and shoving. 
It pisses me off  that Nab will play in ulster and u21 championship with whatever suspensions they get and St. Pats have been able to play relegation playoffs and the u21 championship and still haven't received their suspensions from a game that took place months ago!  >:(
Quote

Good point pint, typical gaa powers that be showing inconsistancies again!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on November 24, 2006, 09:03:19 AM
Peader Toal gave Armagh 110% last year in an effort to break into the senior team, his year did entail several injuries but he did produce an exhibition of long range point taking against the Erne men in the McKenna Cup. The AI OF against Kerry threw up the ideal situation to blood this raw talent which was recognised by our former assistant manager who suggested to bring Toal on 5-10 into the 2nd half for the failing McConnville, his suggestion was dispensed by Big Joe with the reponse 'NO, I'm the boss' (allegedly) and brought on Paddy McKeever for ?. thus the fall out which has occurred.

Toals history regarding attitude has been well documented but, I feel the effort to nurture his skills is well worth it, he has become disillusioned with 12 month football which is so evident in todays game but can we afford to let this talent slip through and replace him with yet another robot of the modern game.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 24, 2006, 11:48:52 AM
here her Spirit if people would just give him a chance and instead of talking about his attitude or alleged lack of it an encourage him then I feel we could a top class fwd playing for the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on November 24, 2006, 11:51:32 AM

"Peader Toal gave Armagh 110% last year in an effort to break into the senior team"

that's not what his teammates say....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 24, 2006, 12:40:40 PM
Are you gonna back that up Uladh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on November 24, 2006, 12:43:28 PM
that definitely calls for supporting evidence Uladh!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on November 24, 2006, 12:45:09 PM
I've heard it from a few players that he missed quite a bit of training over the course of the year and frequently dropped out during the tougher sessions.

What happened to the original umgola?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 24, 2006, 12:46:44 PM
couldnt log in with old address

he wasnt the only ones to pull ot of tough sessions
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on November 24, 2006, 12:50:01 PM

Are you gonna back that up!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 24, 2006, 12:50:41 PM
yes

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 24, 2006, 09:49:17 PM
Lads, I know nothing about what Uladh is saying but did he or did he not stop playing for the Harps after they left the championship this year and last year?

If the answer to that question is yes it's all I need or want to know about the lad!


spirt, I know he's your club mate and your going to stand by him (though I don't think he deserves your loyalty) but don't try making excuses about the 12 months of football, players up and down the county and indeed contry! play football for 12 months.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 26, 2006, 05:13:49 PM
Any results from today?

Ogs beat St. Pats.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on November 26, 2006, 05:21:52 PM
Dromintee beat Tir na nOg
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on November 26, 2006, 07:07:44 PM
Anyone know how Sarsfields done this afternoon in their U-21 game against the amalgamated side St John's?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 26, 2006, 09:46:18 PM
Saturday 25th November                 
U-21 FC                               
Pearse Og     1-07 0-04 St.Patricks   
                                       
Sunday 26th November                   
U-21 FC                               
St. Johns     1-14 3-06 Sarsfields     
Whitecross    2-10 1-07 Keady         
Tir na nOg    1-11 1-12 Dromintee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on November 27, 2006, 10:10:37 AM
Can you remind me again (!) who St Johns are?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 27, 2006, 10:20:31 AM
clonmore/annaghmore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on November 27, 2006, 12:46:51 PM
Is Collegeland not included in that as well??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 27, 2006, 01:10:38 PM
Tell ye what lads, you's are giving Toal a good pasting on the web site, he's only a young lad and i'm sure he'll learn from his mistakes. There's no doubt he has ability as i've seen him play several times and unfortunatly it was against my club (enough said). But give the fella a chance, you could be singing his praises from the Hogan stand in September. (and i'm sure if he's been out of line as much as you's claim JK would have chased him already)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: blueskinn on November 27, 2006, 01:22:18 PM
they have been giving him awful stick on here but i dont here them going on about oisins drinking the week of the ulster final? is it because he aint from south armagh that he gets awful abuse???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on November 27, 2006, 03:12:16 PM

Don't know anything about oisin's drinking the week of the ulster final. not many harps posters jumping to toals defence... speaks volumes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on November 27, 2006, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: Uladh on November 27, 2006, 03:12:16 PM

Don't know anything about oisin's drinking the week of the ulster final. not many harps posters jumping to toals defence... speaks volumes

i was thinking that too uladh. i dont know the fella so i cant comment but i would have expected a lot of defensive posts on this topic from the harps members (especially since there are so many of them on the board)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 27, 2006, 05:07:16 PM
Its Mid Armagh V South Armagh, on the Toal topic. Cast your votes - keep him or ditch him?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 27, 2006, 05:56:38 PM
Quote from: blueskinn on November 27, 2006, 01:22:18 PM
they have been giving him awful stick on here but i dont here them going on about oisins drinking the week of the ulster final? is it because he aint from south armagh that he gets awful abuse???
Why do tubes like you try to bring in this Everyone V south armagh thing. What is that about?
And btw no one is abusing toal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 27, 2006, 06:21:42 PM
Under 21 Fixtures - Sunday 3rd 2pm

Harps V Ballymacnab
Clanns V Cross  (OFF)

Quarter Finals
St John's V Pearse Og
An Port Mor V Dromnitee
Whitecross V Harps/Ballymacnab  (OFF)
Clanns/Cross V Silverbridge  (OFF)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on November 27, 2006, 10:04:45 PM
Any word on a ref for the Harps match??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 27, 2006, 10:11:13 PM
Dessie McDonnell
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 28, 2006, 08:41:50 AM
1st thing, i was and still am backing Mr Toal. 2nd, thats the way it reads on the board, Mid and South Armagh men giving their different opinions on the matter. And anyone with a bit of wit reading my message will know there was a bit of banter at the end of it, but it looks like it hit a few nerves with the Pint ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 28, 2006, 09:10:13 AM
toal in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 28, 2006, 09:28:46 AM
No point putting him in and not giving him a chance so I say Toal in and to start the first few games of the year  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 28, 2006, 10:14:56 AM
Harps v 'Nab game down for Saturday at 2pm in today's Irish News
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on November 28, 2006, 11:09:17 AM
clann eireann have been thrown out of the play offs.

culloville due to play carrickcruppen this weekend i think its on sunday morning at 11 in either cullyhanna or mullaghbane.

rough enough on clann eireann but it should never have taken the county board 3 weeks to make a decision
Title: TrueBlue
Post by: Six Inch Nail on November 28, 2006, 12:33:46 PM
I suppose a Clann Eireann objection is imminent, any word on this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: blueskinn on November 28, 2006, 12:44:00 PM
pints uve obviously rolled out of the wrong side of bed, i never said any1 was abusing him i said they were giving him abuse! as for the mid v south thing u have to question why the likes of stephen keran etc were given more than their fair share of chances this year. toal is a far better player than him but wasnt given his chances at the start of the year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on November 28, 2006, 12:49:37 PM
Blueskin, would that not be more to do with family than geography?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on November 28, 2006, 01:03:09 PM
with out a shadow toal has to be kept, and shud be givin a proper crack of the whip this term
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: blueskinn on November 28, 2006, 01:05:10 PM
prob has a lot to do wif the family but there are other examples i feel jp never go a fair crack at it but aidan o'rouke was pulled in only to be dropped at the end of the season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 28, 2006, 01:09:00 PM
i'm not taking any sides on the matter because i don't really care who gets promoted, but a Clann Eireann player told me the abuse was from both teams to the Ref. So why not throw out both teams and let Cruppin play the Bridge to see who gets promoted. (I think the Bridge will get promoted anyway no matter who they play) :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on November 28, 2006, 01:20:01 PM
nobody from either team gave the referree any stick it was the clann eireann manager threatening the referee which led to the game being abandoned so culloville had nothing to do with him abandoning it

so why should they be punished for the indiscipline of the other teams manager?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: blueskinn on November 28, 2006, 01:24:54 PM
these playoffs are turning into a right joke its almost december and there is no sign of them being finished! are they being planned for next year or are they a one off?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on November 28, 2006, 01:36:10 PM
no i dont think they will be in place next year they will be scrapped after this year as far as i know
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 28, 2006, 06:46:22 PM
Illdecide
Quote1st thing, i was and still am backing Mr Toal. 2nd, thats the way it reads on the board, Mid and South Armagh men giving their different opinions on the matter. And anyone with a bit of wit reading my message will know there was a bit of banter at the end of it, but it looks like it hit a few nerves with the Pint
My comments were directed at blueskinn I know you were only messing about.
And btw, if you were in trouble with me even this wouldn't get you out of it!
QuoteSo why not throw out both teams and let Cruppin play the Bridge to see who gets promoted. (I think the Bridge will get promoted anyway no matter who they play)
:P

Blueskinn
Quote
as for the mid v south thing u have to question why the likes of stephen keran etc were given more than their fair share of chances this year. toal is a far better player than him but wasnt given his chances at the start of the year
FFS! Stephen Kernan was given so many chances because he's a KERNAN!

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prob has a lot to do wif the family but there are other examples i feel jp never go a fair crack at it but aidan o'rouke was pulled in only to be dropped at the end of the season
Big Joe has a secret love for the O'Rourkes and Dromintee? :D  It had nothing to do with the fact that AOR was an established, experienced county player? 
It's funny because Mid and North armagh are convinced that Big Joe the county board and all are so biased toward south armagh.
South Armagh clubs are convinced they're biased towards cross and that Mid and North armagh clubs get a better look in than us.

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nobody from either team gave the referree any stick it was the clann eireann manager threatening the referee which led to the game being abandoned so culloville had nothing to do with him abandoning it
It's still very harsh, you'd imagine most refs would send him off and get on with the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 29, 2006, 09:05:52 AM
Now Pint don't be getting carried away, i'm not ball-licking ;), i said earlier that i thought the winners of Killeavey and Silverbridge would get promoted. Thats because in my opinion they were the two best teams left in the division, although another journey to South Armagh will hardly make a difference when almost every away game is an hours journey to South Armagh anyway.

On that other matter of the O'Rourkes and correct me if i'm wrong but did JK not fall out with A O'Rourke over an incident involving a few punches on an off the ball incident in one of the county finals 2 years ago?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 29, 2006, 07:02:34 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 29, 2006, 09:05:52 AM
Now Pint don't be getting carried away, i'm not ball-licking ;), i said earlier that i thought the winners of Killeavey and Silverbridge would get promoted. Thats because in my opinion they were the two best teams left in the division, although another journey to South Armagh will hardly make a difference when almost every away game is an hours journey to South Armagh anyway.
I won't fancy our chances if we're playing culloville, we beat them in the championship but they beat us twice in the league, and beat us well though for some reason we didn't perform in either of those games.  I think Cruppen will beat them and we've got the 4 points of them this year. The oul heart will always be screaming the bridge on but the head doesn't want us to go up.  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on November 30, 2006, 09:07:18 AM
Heard rumours that Ballyhegan were dropping down into the Junior C'ship.

Hard to believe 4/5 years ago they were senior!!!

What is the criteria for dropping c'ship level?? - I thought you had to be beat in the 1st round several years in a row?? or something stoopid like this!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on November 30, 2006, 09:26:47 AM
I think its just a matter of putting your clubs circumstances to the county board. For years teams were reluctant to drop down but now there is a chance of an Ulster and All-Ireland campaign at Junior level and clubs would rather have this than fight it out for a few years at the right grade for them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 30, 2006, 09:41:26 AM
Couple of years ago I think a team had to be beat in the 1st round for 3 consecutive years.
Spirit is right in that now a club can put forward their case to the County Board.
I think in the case of Ballyhegan a lot of other Junior clubs wouldnt be too keen on them dropping down as they will have 2 County players (more than likely).
If the County players had been playing all year I doubt if they would have got relegated
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on November 30, 2006, 09:45:52 AM
I think we finally have a decent debate on our hands here.

What are peoples views on clubs dropping down a grade,

I know there is different circumstances in every club but I feel Ballyhegan might have jumped ship prematurely.

Any views?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 30, 2006, 09:54:42 AM
I think that Ballyhegan are going through a rough period and the absence of the County players definitely isnt helping their case.
One of the reasons behind their thinking in my opinion is that if they drop down they will certainly be favourites to win it and if indeed they do it should generate a lot more interest in the area & perhaps get the team going again i.e get players back etc.
People always look at what League a team is in when judging what Championship they are in, but I do think it may be a false scenario in the case of B'hagen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 30, 2006, 12:56:20 PM
Surely the club itself realises that they've no chncae of winning the championship they are in so be going down to the next grade they stand themselves a better chance of winning it and now with the all-ireland competition added on its like Full Back says
Quote from: full back on November 30, 2006, 09:54:42 AMit should generate a lot more interest in the area & perhaps get the team going again i.e get players back etc.

But then will every club feel the need to lower their standards so they can progress to an All-Ireland clubg final albeit of a lower standard  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on November 30, 2006, 01:11:59 PM
QuoteBut then will every club feel the need to lower their standards so they can progress to an All-Ireland clubg final albeit of a lower standard

Not every club, I think Cross' will continue to take their chances in their present grade. Every other club perhaps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on November 30, 2006, 03:17:32 PM
The senior championship seriously needs a new winner, fair enough cross have been outstanding over the last decade but I think most teams are beaten before they play them due to their reputation!

I think that if a different team apart from cross win it then it will give hope to all the rest of the teams. Instead of going in with the mind set that cross have won it 11 years in a row so theres no stopping them!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on November 30, 2006, 03:21:58 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on November 30, 2006, 03:17:32 PM
The senior championship seriously needs a new winner, fair enough cross have been outstanding over the last decade but I think most teams are beaten before they play them due to their reputation!

I think that if a different team apart from cross win it then it will give hope to all the rest of the teams. Instead of going in with the mind set that cross have won it 11 years in a row so theres no stopping them!


As they say. . . it's easy talkin
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on November 30, 2006, 03:26:45 PM
I never said that beating cross would be easy. It will take a team to have every player including any subs that come on to give the game of their lives. But as I said most people hear the names of players they will be playing against and then they just fold! They should look at it that they have nothing to lose. I mean if you were marking oisin mcconville your not expected to keep him scoreless so you can go out and enjoy the match and you never know you could actually surprise yourself!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 30, 2006, 03:32:17 PM
The only team that came even close to beating Cross in the past few yrs was the Ogs in the match played in Keady, it was very close at the end with the Ogs leading by 1 or 2 and McConville shoulda got the line for headbutting but maybe becayse of who he was he didn't get the line and the rest is history! Unfortunately  :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 30, 2006, 03:54:11 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on November 30, 2006, 03:26:45 PM
I mean if you were marking oisin mcconville your not expected to keep him scoreless so you can go out and enjoy the match and you never know you could actually surprise yourself!

No offence Tir na nOg but what planet are you living on with a statement like that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on November 30, 2006, 04:01:59 PM

you can go out and enjoy the match and you never know you could actually surprise yourself!

must remember that one.

i don't know anyone who entertained the possibility of clans beating cross in the county final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 30, 2006, 04:22:50 PM
Honest to God, if you went out with an attitude like that you would find yourself 'enjoying' the match from the sideline
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 30, 2006, 04:34:46 PM
Thats Why Tir na nOg have never won anything in their lives, to many boys telling you how to play when they couldn't do it on the field. ::). And the last team in Armagh who should have beaten Cross was indeed the Ogs in keady, i was at the game and Bendover is correct ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on November 30, 2006, 06:16:01 PM
Appreciate it if anyone could let me know if TG4 are intending to show the Cross v Ballinderry game?  Cheers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on November 30, 2006, 06:28:01 PM
from TG4 website
Quote3/12/2006
13:45    GAA BEO
Beo: Craobh Club AIB – Cluiche Ceannais Iomána na Mumhan idir Tuaim Uí Mheára (Tiobraid Árann) agus Rogha Éireann (Corcaigh).

Iarbheo: Craobh Club AIB – Cluiche Ceannais Peile Cúige Laighean idir Ród (Uibh Fháilí) agus Bealach a'Tiriallaigh (An Iarmhí) / Achadh Uí Mhórdha (Cill Dara).

no sign of the Casement game here.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on November 30, 2006, 06:37:32 PM
Thanks, A.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sureyouwill on November 30, 2006, 08:30:50 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 30, 2006, 04:34:46 PM
Thats Why Tir na nOg have never won anything in their lives, to many boys telling you how to play when they couldn't do it on the field. ::). And the last team in Armagh who should have beaten Cross was indeed the Ogs in keady, i was at the game and Bendover is correct ;)

Ditto, the Ogs were very unlucky that day, thank God!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on November 30, 2006, 09:37:41 PM
Quote from: sureyouwill on November 30, 2006, 08:30:50 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 30, 2006, 04:34:46 PM
Thats Why Tir na nOg have never won anything in their lives, to many boys telling you how to play when they couldn't do it on the field. ::). And the last team in Armagh who should have beaten Cross was indeed the Ogs in keady, i was at the game and Bendover is correct ;)

Ditto, the Ogs were very unlucky that day, thank God!!!  ;D

Disagree Sureyouwill - luck did not come into it and neither in my opinion did the Oisin McConville incident. The real reason the Ogs didn't win is that they didn't believe in themselves - end of! They beat themselves.
Title: dropping down a grade
Post by: heganboy on November 30, 2006, 09:59:00 PM
Its interesting to hear the comments about Ballyhegan dropping down a grade, I thought I'd give you a brief of the last 15 years to let you know where we came from
In 91 we were beaten by Corinshigo, and then finished 92 second from bottom in the entire league system in Armagh. over the next couple of years a number of younger players started breaking through the ranks and Paul Mc Grane and Barry Hughes (who had been on the Armagh '92 minor team that made the AI Final only to have it stolen by meath) provided the backbone on which the team was based and as Paddy McKeever came through we ended up with a very strong team. Ballyhegan won the junior in 95 and the intermediate in 97 with roughly the same bunch of players.  As well as this there were a few players (maybe 3-4) who would have made pretty much most clubs in the county. As the team was doing well we could have ended up with maybe 30 lads at training although realistically only 18/19 had any real shot at starting a game. After we won the intermediate we moved into Senior and first game was against Cross in the championship- we did take the lead and hold if to the first 15 minutes, but it was the last 5 before we scored again after that. This coincided with the progress being made by Armagh and there were more and more demands being made on the county players. In 98 we lost 6 lads to the USA and a couple more followed a few years later. The step up in grade was badly hurting results and also the attendances at training and although we managed to hold our place in division 2 it was a struggle based heavily on the last few games of the season with county players available. In fact there were occasions when players were flown back in from abroad (legitimately I might add) to help preserve that status.
It was a tough decision to move back down but a run to the intermediate final rekindled interest in the club and attendances were up. The new facilities at the club were a big improvement and things were looking well.
Lately however reality has kicked in, although Kilmore is a relatively large parish, the area is very predominantly unionist ( and in many cases very loyalist) The club works well with Portadown rugby club and Loughgall FC to do a lot of cross community work and if truth be told we didn't exactly play to the letter of the law when it came to rule 21, more the spirit...
We would not be in the siutation we are financially and facility wise if it hadn't been for the participation and generosity of the entire local community and for that we are thankful. However if it comes down to it we are a club which on the numbers would be expected to be a junior club, and until we get a good crop of players coming together at the same time I have a feeling thats where we will be for a few years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 01, 2006, 08:32:26 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on November 30, 2006, 09:37:41 PM
Quote from: sureyouwill on November 30, 2006, 08:30:50 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 30, 2006, 04:34:46 PM
Thats Why Tir na nOg have never won anything in their lives, to many boys telling you how to play when they couldn't do it on the field. ::). And the last team in Armagh who should have beaten Cross was indeed the Ogs in keady, i was at the game and Bendover is correct ;)

Ditto, the Ogs were very unlucky that day, thank God!!!  ;D

Disagree Sureyouwill - luck did not come into it and neither in my opinion did the Oisin McConville incident. The real reason the Ogs didn't win is that they didn't believe in themselves - end of! They beat themselves.

But surely Rufus if you see justice being done and a classy forward like McConville getting the line it's bound to give the team an extra lift (not that they should need it playing Cross) then again I take your point the Ogs did kick 2-3 silly wides in the second half as well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 01, 2006, 08:39:18 AM
F**k me heganboy, don't be putting stuff like that on the board, coming in to work (happy cause its Friday) reading that, you have me depressed and a lump in my throat now. That type of talk is for a Monday when everyone's doom and gloom
Title: Harps V 'Nab U-21
Post by: bennydorano on December 01, 2006, 10:08:43 AM
Please note that the Under 21 Championship match against Ballymacnab, this week-end, has been put back to this Sunday morning, 3rd December. The match has an 11.30am throw in at Abbey Park. Please pass the word on.

Title: ill decide
Post by: heganboy on December 01, 2006, 02:00:40 PM
sorry bout spoinling your friday- doesn't make for great reading - but it was a great run while it lasted :-)
Title: Re: Armagh U-21 Championship Results
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 02, 2006, 09:11:58 PM
Dromintee beat An Port Mor this afternoon by a couple of points in the Armagh Under-21 Football Championship Quarter-Final.
Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Redhandfan on December 03, 2006, 01:40:06 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on December 02, 2006, 09:11:58 PM
Dromintee beat An Port Mor this afternoon by a couple of points in the Armagh Under-21 Football Championship Quarter-Final.

I'm afraid to report that there was a lot more than a couple of points in the game between An Port Mor and Dromintee at Pairc Ui Neill yesterday.  An Port Mor only scored a couple of points in the entire match as a much stronger and superior Dromintee side dominated from start to finish. 

If anything, this game was further proof that the Armagh County Board are failing the smaller/weaker clubs by not grading U-21 and U-18 Championships.  I really cannot understand why Armagh clubs and their delegates allow this situation to happen year after year.  With no proper grading, what incentive is there for Division 3 and Division 4 Clubs to even enter a team in the Under 21 and minor championships?  Yesterday's game at An Port Mor was a complete mismatch and was of no benefit to either the winners or losers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on December 03, 2006, 01:45:37 PM
Pearse Ogs V St Johns. Ended in a draw, replay next sunday

Harps V Ballymacnab. Harps won 2-9 1-7. Woeful playing conditions and farcicle refereeing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 03, 2006, 05:04:59 PM
Any word on cruppin V Cullaville? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on December 03, 2006, 05:14:37 PM
Not played
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 03, 2006, 05:19:05 PM
Quote from: holylandsniper on December 03, 2006, 05:14:37 PM
Not played
Aw for f**k sake!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on December 03, 2006, 05:31:18 PM
Hear it could be on early during the week though, Monday or Tuesday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 03, 2006, 05:41:54 PM
Quote from: holylandsniper on December 03, 2006, 05:31:18 PM
Hear it could be on early during the week though, Monday or Tuesday
We'd need to play the winners next weekend or we'll either have a clash with our u21 quarter final or one of them will have to wait until the new year, or we could be sent to Ballymacnab some winters night  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on December 03, 2006, 10:08:04 PM

These platyoffs are beyond a joke at this stage. i take it the u21 championship is suffering the usual hold ups and negligence?

It's a pity the Armagh county board continue to treat what should be one of the premier competitions with total distain.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on December 03, 2006, 10:53:38 PM
Anyone know when the Ballymacnab Ulster Club issue will be resolved?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 03, 2006, 10:58:11 PM
Quote from: Uladh on December 03, 2006, 10:08:04 PM

These platyoffs are beyond a joke at this stage. i take it the u21 championship is suffering the usual hold ups and negligence?

It's a pity the Armagh county board continue to treat what should be one of the premier competitions with total distain.
With the senior championship so predictable the U21 championship should be the best in the county yet  it's rushed in November and December.  There is no way it'll be finished this year. 
If the playoffs weren't bad enough they won't f**king go ahead and play them! It takes them three weeks to throw Clann Eireann out, 3 weeks! What where they talking about!? (I won't even start about St. Pats  >:(  3 months now that's going on and no, I won't be happy until I see the book threw at them)  Cruppen's last game must have been  6 or 7 weeks ago? How can a team be expected to motivate themselves.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on December 04, 2006, 12:46:59 AM

The conty board don't give a shite about clubs or club fixtures. they think its their job "to get everything played off", whereas their job is actually to promote the games, invigorate the clubs and try to produce a product which will allow clubs a fair chance of attracting & keeping youngsters in the games. Armagh county board are a disgrace in terms of games promotion and scheduling.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 04, 2006, 09:08:35 AM
A few contributors seem to be very annoyed with the County Board but I'm told that all have been returned unopposed with the exception of Kevin Brady replacing Joe Jordan who stepped down after five years in the chair and Ollie Hearty replaced Brady as vice-chairman.
If this is true then the clubs in the county must be satisfied.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 04, 2006, 09:26:34 AM
Reliably informed over the week end, that Ballyhegan will NOT be dropping down to the Junior C'ship!

It was brought up at the AGM & quickly shot down. Considering the Davitts contested the final 2 years ago...it would have been a joke dropping a level IMO!
Title: County Board
Post by: bennydorano on December 04, 2006, 09:52:03 AM
Having been at our AGM last week, I can safely say the County Board dont give a flying one about Club football, it's the BIg Joe show and it will be the ruination of the club game in armagh, some might think it's worth it for county success, I don't.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on December 04, 2006, 09:56:37 AM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on December 04, 2006, 09:08:35 AM
A few contributors seem to be very annoyed with the County Board but I'm told that all have been returned unopposed with the exception of Kevin Brady replacing Joe Jordan who stepped down after five years in the chair and Ollie Hearty replaced Brady as vice-chairman.
If this is true then the clubs in the county must be satisfied.


::) You serious? Not so bad about Brady but the other is a complete joke!! Worming his way in nicely!!


[/quote

If anything, this game was further proof that the Armagh County Board are failing the smaller/weaker clubs by not grading U-21 and U-18 Championships.  I really cannot understand why Armagh clubs and their delegates allow this situation to happen year after year.  With no proper grading, what incentive is there for Division 3 and Division 4 Clubs to even enter a team in the Under 21 and minor championships?  Yesterday's game at An Port Mor was a complete mismatch and was of no benefit to either the winners or losers.
Quote


Redhandfan, You werent talking to the referee at half time by any chance??

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on December 04, 2006, 10:03:28 AM
There was noboby else going for the job Whacker, so if he is the only nominee he is entitled to it-regardless of what you or I say
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on December 04, 2006, 10:10:25 AM
that culloville cruppen game has been put back until NEXT sunday.thats a f**king joke the pitches arent going to be any more playable next sunday. the game was fixed for dromintee,both teams went there only to be told it wasnt playable. both teams went to the bridge only to be told it was also unplayable. surely this game should have been fixed for somewher with a new pitch such as kileavy or newtown or somewher like that. i know clubs are closing their fields for work to be done but for f**k sake will somebody please sort this situation out because it is a f**king joke to still be playing playoffs in december wen the league started in april. a full 8 months to play a 24 game league
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on December 04, 2006, 11:03:33 AM

Grading underage teams is a very difficult job. Smaller clubs can produce great teams every so often and they will then be denied the opportunity of competing at the highest level... perhaps with the best team in the competition?
Title: True Blue
Post by: Six Inch Nail on December 04, 2006, 11:15:27 AM
True Blue, I heard that the game between yourselves and Curppen is going to be played tonight or tomorrow night in Ballymacnab.  Is this not the case?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 04, 2006, 12:02:19 PM
Quote from: Uladh on December 04, 2006, 11:03:33 AM

Grading underage teams is a very difficult job. Smaller clubs can produce great teams every so often and they will then be denied the opportunity of competing at the highest level... perhaps with the best team in the competition?

Definately true,

who would have predicted - Pearse Ogs V St Johns to be a draw??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 04, 2006, 12:17:58 PM
I doubt the Ogs will be the favorites for the U21 competition this yr and if you have ever played against an amalgamated team then you will know that they are never easy opponents. I remember playing against Cill Chluana a few years back and the Ogs team that I played on just about beat them. As for drawing with St John's on Saturday I think the Ogs expected a tough encounter but I also believe that there were 6 scorable frees missed by the Ogs. Anyway the replay should be good this weekend if the conditions allow for it to take place.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on December 04, 2006, 12:56:29 PM

The u21 championship is very open given the state the harps appear to be in, otherwise it'd be theirs to lose. Dromintee are decent though missing three central men through injury and we're also are losing a few guys to australia at christmas so were hoping the county board would have the respect to play the competition in the correct calendar year. whoever comes through between cross and the bridge will be very strong and the ogs will be no pushover.

Grading underage team is impossible. i'd say by most criteria you'd use in terms of population or members, we'd be graded a junior club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 04, 2006, 01:07:59 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on December 04, 2006, 12:56:29 PM

The u21 championship is very open given the state the harps appear to be in,

Care to elaborate here Aghdavoyle? I went up to the Harps match yesterday (wished I never parked on the grass) and althought the conditions were abysmal the Harps looked like a strong outfit all over the field. I think they'd be my favourites for this competition
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on December 04, 2006, 03:31:48 PM
Quotenew pitch such as kileavy
Trueblue that new pitch is now closed for some reason, its been like that a wee while now, should see their old pitch a joke, and they complained about ref moviing thier U21 game.

On a sort of a seperate issue, Dinner Dance held the other night, Clarke getting Player of the Year Marsden Club Player with Ballymacnab club of the year. Interesting to ehar one of the speakers while he was talking, wishing A Kernan speedy recovery from recent injury - yes he is injured and goodluck to him, but i seem to remember before that a more important figure in 2007 plans(In my opinion) recieving terrible injury and probaly little chance of playing in 2007 Brian Mallon, yet they failed to mention him, thats nice.. If they are going to name players like that why stop at just the 1, though when handing out squad places they do the same, stop at the kernans!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 04, 2006, 06:13:24 PM
Quotethat culloville cruppen game has been put back until NEXT sunday.thats a f**king joke the pitches arent going to be any more playable next sunday. the game was fixed for dromintee,both teams went there only to be told it wasnt playable. both teams went to the bridge only to be told it was also unplayable. surely this game should have been fixed for somewher with a new pitch such as kileavy or newtown or somewher like that. i know clubs are closing their fields for work to be done but for f**k sake will somebody please sort this situation out because it is a f**king joke to still be playing playoffs in december wen the league started in april. a full 8 months to play a 24 game league
Would they just play the f**king game, what do they expect fields to be like this time of year? The state Killeavy was in 6 weeks ago though you're better not going near it yous would be drowning in it!

SixInchNail
Quote
True Blue, I heard that the game between yourselves and Curppen is going to be played tonight or tomorrow night in Ballymacnab.  Is this not the case?
Its down in the examiner for next sunday, 11.30, Dromintee.

I'll be severly pissed off if we have to play an u21 quater final and playoff final on the same weekend. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on December 05, 2006, 07:03:04 PM
Should we have a separate county team thread?

Anyhow, the McKenna Cup team should be interesting with the students and dem XMG boys absent. Is everyone else back in training? Might North Armagh get a better representation?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on December 05, 2006, 07:27:25 PM
Any word on the young lad from Clans who was called up to the Seniors last year only to suffer a bad fracture/break.  Sorry, his name escapes me at the moment, but he had been touted as a tenacious wing-back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 05, 2006, 07:48:53 PM
Quote from: Imposerous on December 05, 2006, 07:27:25 PM
Any word on the young lad from Clans who was called up to the Seniors last year only to suffer a bad fracture/break.  Sorry, his name escapes me at the moment, but he had been touted as a tenacious wing-back.
That'll be Dwyer McAlinden
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on December 06, 2006, 09:09:22 AM

Would they just play the f**king game, what do they expect fields to be like this time of year? The state Killeavy was in 6 weeks ago though you're better not going near it yous would be drowning in it!

the best field i played on all year was the new pearse ogs field surely it could be used to play these play offs as its bound 2 be in good condition still.i know the ogs are playing their u21 replay against st johns ther at tha weekend but one game could be played on saturday and one on sunday could it not?

also,ive heard that ther was a schools match played yday in dromintee field,just wondering how this field could be any more playable on tuesday than it was on sunday considering that it rained constantly from sunday until tuesday???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on December 06, 2006, 09:10:16 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on December 05, 2006, 07:48:53 PM
Quote from: Imposerous on December 05, 2006, 07:27:25 PM
Any word on the young lad from Clans who was called up to the Seniors last year only to suffer a bad fracture/break.  Sorry, his name escapes me at the moment, but he had been touted as a tenacious wing-back.
That'll be Dwyer McAlinden

thats him alright. he didnt break his leg, he done the ligaments in his knee. he's more of a corner back than wing back... but as for the question. i've heard no word of him getting a call up to the county team this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 06, 2006, 03:10:16 PM
UD B SAFER PUTTING ME ON THE PANEL THAN MCALINDEN
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on December 06, 2006, 03:45:20 PM
Somehow I don't think so. ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 07, 2006, 09:09:27 AM
Charlie Stubbs you couldn't get on the panel for playschool you twat ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 07, 2006, 09:18:20 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on December 06, 2006, 03:10:16 PM
UD B SAFER PUTTING ME ON THE PANEL THAN MCALINDEN

at least ur not lacking in self-confidence or modesty
Title: Retirements
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 07, 2006, 10:09:35 AM
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/6214628.stm


It's Goodbye to Aiden O'Rourke, John Toal, Liam O'Hare & Paul McCormack.

Not too unexpected. Dissapointed for McCormack, always thought he could have done a job!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 07, 2006, 10:15:18 AM
Can't say I'm too disappointed by the news, obviously Liam O'hare realised he wasn't going to get a chance a la Pauric Duffy a few years back. I wish John Toal all the best with his club football.

Charlie Stubbs you'll be glad to know that as McCormack has left the panel either you or Dwyer McAlinden might get a shot now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lfdown2 on December 09, 2006, 09:52:41 PM
when has the ballymacnab ulster match been rescheduled for?and any suspensions?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on December 10, 2006, 02:23:11 PM
I hear Cullavile beat Carrickcruppen in playoff Semi Final
Title: County Convention
Post by: Donagh on December 10, 2006, 02:25:24 PM
I hear Joe Jordan is standing down and the new chairman is to be elected unopposed tomorrow.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 10, 2006, 05:01:42 PM
Any word on the u21 fixtures?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on December 10, 2006, 05:55:38 PM
Results according to Aertel can be found here.

http://www.rte.ie/aertel/aertelplus/p591.htm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 10, 2006, 06:12:56 PM
 U-21 FC                               
Clan na Gael  0-06 1-18 Crossmaglen   
                                       
Whitecross    2-07 1-16 Harps         
                                       
                                       
U-21 FC Rep                           
Pearse Og     1-09 0-05 St Johns       
                                       
                                       
ACL D2 Prom P/Off S/F                 
Carrickcrupin 2-07 2-09 Cullaville   


A massive win for cross I expected Clanns to be stronger.
Should be a good game between the Bridge and Cullaville hopefully we'll play better than we did when we met them in the league.
Title: Harps v Whitecross U21's
Post by: bennydorano on December 10, 2006, 08:14:42 PM
Harps had a good win over a talented yet dirty as f**k whitecross, Vernon and Swift were obviously targeted from the get-go and both received some heavy-handed treatment and little or no protection from the ref.  The game itself wasn't bad considering the woeful conditions, Whitecross played with the wind in the first half and took a few good scores yet they needed a fortuitous goal to go in level at 1-3 to 0-6 at the half. Harps looked a far classier side in the second half with the wind behind them they took some good scores from Chink Ward, Nippy, Kevin Kelly, Joe Quigley(inc a penalty) and Deckie Coulter. Good performance from the Harps and they kept their discipline well. Whitecross had good performers in their MF, CHB and CHF.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on December 10, 2006, 08:24:30 PM
QuoteI hear Joe Jordan is standing down and the new chairman is to be elected unopposed tomorrow
Aye i hear new person comin in has same first name
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on December 11, 2006, 09:02:59 AM
Aidan O'Rouke put the boot in Kernan yesterday in the Irish Star, saying that although he was mentioned at the county convention as being retired, that he services were still available to Armagh and that he hadn't received a call to join pre-season and not even a call to thank him for his services.

I don't know how the Dromintee guys feel, but to me he has been treated disgracefully, yes he might not be at his best anymore ( i feel he's still worthy of his place, after watching him against the Harps in the C'ship) but the least he deserved was a phone call from Kernan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on December 11, 2006, 09:40:45 AM
from what ive heard culloville and the bridge play off final has been fixed for next sunday in mullaghbane at 2pm. mullaghbanes fields in great shape for play to them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 11, 2006, 09:45:11 AM
Good win for the Ogs yesterday against a strong and spirited St Johns side who failed to make the most of the wind in the second half mainly due to some excellent defending from the Ogs. I heard the draw for the semis has already been made with the Ogs Vs Dromintee and the Harps Vs Cross does anyone know if this is true?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on December 11, 2006, 10:20:49 AM
Was at the Ogs game yesterday, a good team performance in horrendous conditions. the pitch seems to be holding up well at the moment.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 11, 2006, 10:21:47 AM
Quote from: BenDover on December 11, 2006, 09:45:11 AM
Good win for the Ogs yesterday against a strong and spirited St Johns side who failed to make the most of the wind in the second half mainly due to some excellent defending from the Ogs. I heard the draw for the semis has already been made with the Ogs Vs Dromintee and the Harps Vs Cross does anyone know if this is true?
Cross still have to play Silverbridge in the quarter, dont know if semi pairings have been made.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 11, 2006, 10:22:55 AM
Have to agree with you there about Ballycrummy in excellent conditions, with the way the rest of the pitches in the county are cutting up, a possible venue for the U21 final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on December 11, 2006, 10:24:30 AM
Quote from: BenDover on December 11, 2006, 10:22:55 AM
Have to agree with you there about Ballycrummy in excellent conditions, with the way the rest of the pitches in the county are cutting up, a possible venue for the U21 final?

You dont have much faith in the Wee Bro & co to get there then.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 11, 2006, 12:31:15 PM
Have to admit I'm not to convinvced YET but if the Harps and Cross were drew against each other that could be half the battle to getting to final. Surely both these teams would be favourites?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on December 11, 2006, 01:17:33 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on December 11, 2006, 09:02:59 AM
Aidan O'Rouke put the boot in Kernan yesterday in the Irish Star, saying that although he was mentioned at the county convention as being retired, that he services were still available to Armagh and that he hadn't received a call to join pre-season and not even a call to thank him for his services.

I don't know how the Dromintee guys feel, but to me he has been treated disgracefully, yes he might not be at his best anymore ( i feel he's still worthy of his place, after watching him against the Harps in the C'ship) but the least he deserved was a phone call from Kernan.


I think it's well known that this was a "family" decision. Too many run ins with the juniors for Joe's liking and an inability not to speak his mind seems to have led to Aidan's ommission
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 11, 2006, 06:06:32 PM
Quote from: BenDover on December 11, 2006, 12:31:15 PM
Have to admit I'm not to convinvced YET but if the Harps and Cross were drew against each other that could be half the battle to getting to final. Surely both these teams would be favourites?
Benny has already told you,  cross aren't in a semi final.
There's no u21 games fixed next weekend will they be leaving it until next year now?

Quotefrom what ive heard culloville and the bridge play off final has been fixed for next sunday in mullaghbane at 2pm. mullaghbanes fields in great shape for play to them
That's right trueblue, what do you think of your chances?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 12, 2006, 08:48:33 AM
Pint I know they are not but I was just answering Spirit's question. As for playing the remaining U21 fixtures before the new year you're prob right it will drag into the 2007
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on December 12, 2006, 09:20:36 AM
That's right trueblue, what do you think of your chances?
Quote

Well saying ther is only2 teams left id say our chances would be about 50:50  ;)

wat do ya think ureself as a bridge man??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on December 12, 2006, 10:32:49 AM

Surely the beginning of the mckenna cup in the first week in january would take u21 players away from their clubs for that entire month?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on December 12, 2006, 12:29:09 PM
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=70130
Crossmaglen's hopes of capturing their fourth All-Ireland club football title have been dealt a major blow with the news that county star Francie Bellew could be sidelined for up to five months.

The full back is given little chance of featuring against Connacht champions St. Brigid's in February's All-Ireland semi-final after being told that his shoulder problem requires surgery. His participation in the All-Ireland final on St. Patrick's Day would also be in doubt were Crossmaglen to make it that far.

The former All-Star is seeking a second opinion on the injury which has troubled him for over a year, but Cross manager Donal Murtagh says he's resigned to being without him for the St. Brigid's clash.

"It is very unlikely that we will have Francie available for the semi-final against St. Brigid's. He's already seen a specialist about the shoulder," Murtagh said.

"It may be that there is a tendon or ligament being pinched by a bone. Francie is going to have to have something done long term about it, so surgery shortly looks likely.

"The problem is probably down to a combination of some wear and tear and the number of games Francie has played for the club and Armagh over a long number of years.

"He was playing through the pain barrier this year for Armagh and for us. The injury first caused him trouble last year and now it's reached a stage that something has to be done to sort it out."


Bad news for Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 12, 2006, 12:30:27 PM
maddog the Hoganstands blocked in work would you be so kind as to copy and paste the article, cheers
Title: Astroturf Pitch
Post by: Border Fox on December 12, 2006, 12:48:58 PM
I know this is a wee bit off topic, but my club which is on the Monaghan-S. Armagh border (not far from trueblue) is applying for grant aid to put in an astroturf pitch.

The pitch would be laid out to GAA specifications, I was wondering if clubs in the area would have any interest in using it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on December 12, 2006, 01:00:59 PM
my club probably would at some stage
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Border Fox on December 12, 2006, 01:02:15 PM
Jesus i'd hope so!!!! I'd say u can probably guess my club trueblue
Title: New Board chairman
Post by: Donagh on December 12, 2006, 02:07:01 PM
Brady hopes to benefit from 'Jordan factor'

By John Campbell

New Armagh County Board chairman Kevin Brady is hoping that some of the success enjoyed by his predecessor Joe Jordan will rub off on him.

Jordan stepped down at last night's County Convention having completed a five-year term in office which coincided with the most fruitful period in the long history of the GAA in Armagh.

Brady, who has been a dynamo within the Clan na gael club in Lurgan for many years, will now lead the orchard county into what he hopes will prove another successful chapter.

"We are a strong, vibrant organisation and obviously we face the future with confidence," said Brady who previously served as Football Board chairman and is regarded as one of the most able administrators in the province.
Title: U21 Draw
Post by: Whacker on December 12, 2006, 06:19:13 PM
Crossmaglen/Silverbridge v Armagh Harps
Dromintee v Pearse Og

Dates and Venues to be confirmed

Convention last night.....Farcial!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 12, 2006, 06:34:14 PM
Quote from: trueblue on December 12, 2006, 09:20:36 AM
That's right trueblue, what do you think of your chances?
Quote

Well saying ther is only2 teams left id say our chances would be about 50:50  ;)

wat do ya think ureself as a bridge man??
It's hard to say. I think the boys themselves want to go up but they've done exceptionally well this year and there should be no pressure on them, we didnt play well in either league games against yous so they should be wanting to set that right.  A good game and I'll be happy enough.  Are yous keen to go up?

From orchardcounty...
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At last nights Armagh County Convention, at which all clubs were represented, the following motion from Naomh Cillian Crois Bán was passed by the delegates.
Promotion and Relegation shall be as follows:- Teams finishing in 1st and 2nd place in Divisions 2, 3 & 4 shall be promoted to Divisions 1, 2 & 3 respectively. Teams finishing in last and second last place in Divisions 1, 2 & 3 shall be relegated to Divisions 2, 3 & 4 respectively. In the event of teams, that are to be promoted or relegated having equal points, the teams shall play-off. The winners of each division shall receive a cup and a set of medals and the runners-up shall receive a set of medals.
Thank god!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on December 12, 2006, 10:21:39 PM
Heard That Under 21 Championship Match Cross V Bridge will take place weekend after next 23rd, with semi finals being played 30th weekend and the final to be played 6th weekend.

If everything goes to plan and assuming Ceteris Paribus of course.
Title: Re: County Convention
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 12, 2006, 11:26:52 PM
Was anyone at the County Convention on Monday night?  If so could you give a short report regarding motions passed and any other gossip.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on December 13, 2006, 08:22:45 AM
Quote from: Whacker on December 12, 2006, 06:19:13 PM
Convention last night.....Farcial!!

Any chance of elaborating on that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on December 13, 2006, 09:09:13 AM
The Cross & Bridge under 21's is on the 23rd - FFS what a joke.

At least they have got rid of the play off's.

I hear Clans had a motion to scrap the International Rules and establish a new competition where teams from Ireland play others from Europe, Asia, USA etc
Title: Re: U21 Draw
Post by: BenDover on December 13, 2006, 09:41:15 AM
Quote from: Whacker on December 12, 2006, 06:19:13 PM
Crossmaglen/Silverbridge v Armagh Harps
Dromintee v Pearse Og

Dates and Venues to be confirmed

Jaysus i was close enough with my semi-final pairings, where'd u get this info Whacker?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on December 14, 2006, 03:31:08 PM
Can anyone shed anylight on this injured Clarke has said to have picked up

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 14, 2006, 03:41:26 PM
No not me ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 14, 2006, 03:42:23 PM
Apparently he got an operation yesterday on his knee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sky Blue on December 14, 2006, 03:45:43 PM
Hello  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on December 14, 2006, 03:46:40 PM
Belly Tele article (editted)

Ronan Clarke, the newly -crowned Ulster Footballer of the Year, could now find himself sidelined for up to 12 months.

But suddenly his immediate future is shrouded in doubt, although a full medical assessment of the damage to his knee is expected to be provided shortly.

It is understood that Clarke had undergone an exploratory examination recently but it was felt that rather more damage had been sustained by his knee than was through at first.

He will now undergo an initial recovery period but would appear to face a lengthy rehabilitation process in terms of getting back to full fitness.

His possible protracted absence will not just be a major blow to the orchard county, the dominant force in Ulster football for the past decade, but will also be a big setback to his club Pearse Og who have regained their Division One status in the All-County league and are currently settling into their magnificent new playing complex at Ballycrummy just outside Armagh city.


http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/article2073828.ece
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: never kickt a ball on December 14, 2006, 03:49:06 PM
Great player- wish him all the best
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blacksheep on December 14, 2006, 03:54:31 PM
Hello  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on December 14, 2006, 06:38:19 PM
Terrible news that for Armagh football.  Not looking forward to next year as much now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on December 14, 2006, 06:57:01 PM

The armagh forward line for 2007 at this stage with mallon and clarke gone or bit part players at best.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ONeill on December 14, 2006, 07:35:40 PM
Really sorry to hear this and hopefully the time out is exaggerated at present.

Yiz may be a punch of apple-chomping buckfast-swilling street-urinating low-lifes but I always liked Clarke's approach and demeanour on the field.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on December 14, 2006, 09:27:43 PM
Some of the bit players would be good enough, if they get enough games in the McKenna and the League.

Any more word of Marsden's rumoured return to the fold? Is he training with the county or not?
Title: Ronan Clarke
Post by: Over the Bar on December 14, 2006, 10:17:47 PM
Anything to do with the knee can often be complex and debilitating.  I hope this doesn't turn out to be the case for young Clarke and he's back asap as he's a great talent and a joy to watch.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 15, 2006, 08:42:22 AM
Unfortunatly Marsden will not be returning, and thats from the horses mouth. It's a pity as he could easly still play for the county!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Border Fox on December 15, 2006, 11:35:20 AM
While the Armagh of 2002-now have given us some fantastic times, and it has to be said that Oisin has produced more consistently over a longer period...... it is still hard to bate the memory of the thrill of watching Marsden at his best in 1999-2000, unstoppable at his best!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on December 15, 2006, 01:37:54 PM
Clarkie went in for routine keyhole surgery in his knee. What the doctors found has left him devastated, the cartilage in his knee is non-exsistant, it has worn away and the injury is apparantly down to wear and tear over the years. Simply put - Burn out.

Ronan has been on the county squad from the 2001 season(drafted in after the defeat to Tyrone), thats 18, but he has been playing senior club football from 16. This has all took its toll. Since 1999 he has played:

2 seasons at Macrory
2 minor club campaigns, (both reaching Xmas St pauls Comp)
2 County Minor seasons
5 Seasons at County senior
7 seasons senior club
Dragged out while injured for several Sigersons
2 International Rules Series
Several Railway cups.

This is not uncommon with many talented players at this age, but are we going to let it continue as in 10 years time senior county players will be retiring at 26 regularly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 15, 2006, 01:52:09 PM
Gutted about Clarke.  Next year not just as bright for the Ogs now.  I'm more Gutted for Ronan himself.  He's been training flat out lately and after last years season it's a big disappointment. 

I wish him a speedy recovery
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on December 15, 2006, 01:59:01 PM
from spirits list, it is an awful amount of games for young fellas to be playing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 15, 2006, 02:09:23 PM
Yes a speedy recovery indeed devastating news! Would Sean Cavanagh not be in the same boat more or less?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 15, 2006, 02:22:26 PM
Big Sean has been a bit more fotunate with injuries though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on December 15, 2006, 03:49:04 PM
What is the reality of this: can he overcome this completely?  Terrible news for the lad.  Hope he is able to keep his spirits up and doesn't try to come back sooner than he's 100%.
Title: Ronan Clarke Out for the Season
Post by: nrico2006 on December 15, 2006, 04:23:03 PM
Ive read conflicting reports that he could be back by championship or he might not be back until this time next year.  Whatever happens he wont be near 100% in 2007, and this will be a big blow to Armagh.  They rely heavily on the Clarke/McDonnell combination from play, and without him they will struggle for scores.

Armagh's 2007 hopes have been dealt another blow with the news that full forward Ronan Clarke is facing several months on the sidelines.

Clarke, who was the Orchard County's only All-Star recipient this year, recently underwent keyhole surgery on a knee problem, but surgeons discovered that the damage to the knee was more serious than had initially been thought, leaving him facing the prospect of sitting out the entire National League and perhaps part of the championship as well.

It is a big setback to Clarke, who was troubled by a back injury earlier this year before bouncing back to play a leading role in Armagh's capture of the Ulster championship for a third consecutive year.

Armagh are also set to be without the services of full back Francie Bellew for the National League because of a shoulder injury.
Title: Re: Ronan Clarke Out for the Season
Post by: Sandy Hill on December 15, 2006, 04:50:52 PM
A huge blow for us especially in the light of Brian Mallon also being doubtful!
Title: Re: Ronan Clarke Out for the Season
Post by: maddog on December 15, 2006, 04:54:40 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on December 15, 2006, 04:50:52 PM
A huge blow for us especially in the light of Brian Mallon also being doubtful!

Indeed it is, Clarke was our main threat this year. However out of bad can come good and maybe we can unearth a couple more forwards during the league to take the place of BM and RC. Wish the lad a speedy and complete recovery.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 15, 2006, 06:12:29 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on December 15, 2006, 02:22:26 PM
Big Sean has been a bit more fotunate with injuries though.
Aye that's what i was thinking, suppose thats all it boils down to is the rub of the green.

Spirit I actually think that Clarke played on 3 Ogs minor teams all of which got into the Ulster Minor Championship, is this correct el_cuervo?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on December 15, 2006, 06:59:40 PM
I know he did but one of them was in 98 and my stat was from 99, i think, im no Ogs follower but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on December 15, 2006, 07:51:57 PM
His points were from play (might have been three), your right though, the outside of the boot one was a beauty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on December 15, 2006, 08:04:54 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on December 15, 2006, 07:18:17 PM
KCould anyone verify this?

Yup
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on December 15, 2006, 08:59:16 PM
Sean Cavanagh has played just as much football as Clarkie apart from the minor Championship runs to the Ulster Champ and it wouldn't surprise me if he hits a brick wall .....
Quote


As long as he continues to play with his wing mirrors, he'll be alright!   ;)


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 16, 2006, 09:10:04 AM
Quote from: BenDover on December 15, 2006, 06:12:29 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on December 15, 2006, 02:22:26 PM
Big Sean has been a bit more fotunate with injuries though.
Aye that's what i was thinking, suppose thats all it boils down to is the rub of the green.

Spirit I actually think that Clarke played on 3 Ogs minor teams all of which got into the Ulster Minor Championship, is this correct el_cuervo?

You're right in that assumption bendover. He played in the first year when i was in the minor team and he was a cub and then he played the next 2.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 16, 2006, 06:28:05 PM
I heard today that he's gona need full reconstruction on his knee, a visit to Dr R Steadman would surely be on the cards for Clarke but like rolloutking said the County never sent JT but I for one hope they send Clarke.

Ur probably right spirit but I wouldn't be too sure on my dates
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on December 16, 2006, 08:54:19 PM
I stand corrected, he scored them from play but im sure it was only two because he didnt start the replay and if someone came on in the 2nd half and swung over 3 minors they'd definitely start the next day. Recalling the one with the outside of the boot...i think it was one of his first touches and was his first intercounty point and all i can say is...what a way to arrive on the big stage. I was sitting just behind it and you could see as soon as he got hands on the ball he was going for it, it went outside the post and curled back in, pure leathal lak!

Where did this news of needing reconstruction of the knee come from. Jesus John Toal and Micheal Owen didn't even need total reconstruction and look what happened them. Anyways when did this injury happen because it couldn't be burnout as he wouldn't even have been able to put pressure on it so it aint as if he could have been walking around blind to the injury. Was it in that fkin international cack?
Title: D2 playoff final
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 17, 2006, 04:04:24 PM
Culloville beat the bridge by about 6, I think the  score was 1-7 to 0-4 or something like that.

Poor enough game, I thought we were on top for most of the first half but a fortunate goal for culloville right before half time meant they went in leading by 2. We were very wasteful in front of goal in the second half.  Culloville picked off a few scores and we just lost shape as the game went on and went for goals far too soon. I'm disappointed in the scoreline I don't think it was a reflection of the game but apart from that we can't complain, the lads have done well this year and it's been a good year for the club.
Congratulations to Culloville and all the best to them next year.
Title: U21 Armagh Championship
Post by: PatDaly on December 18, 2006, 12:27:48 AM
Can anyone confirm the dates, times and venues for the remaining games in the Armagh U21 Football Championship?

Saturday December 23rd

Quarter-Final: Venue? Time ? Crossmaglen v Silverbridge

Saturday December 30th

Semi-Final A: Venue? Time ?  Cross or Silverbridge v Armagh Harps

Semi-Final B: Venue? Time ? Dromintee v Pearse Og

Final:
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 18, 2006, 08:21:43 AM
QuoteQuarter-Final: Venue? Time ? Crossmaglen v Silverbridge
Cross 2pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on December 18, 2006, 01:35:13 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 17, 2006, 04:04:24 PM
Culloville beat the bridge by about 6, I think the score was 1-7 to 0-4 or something like that.

Poor enough game, I thought we were on top for most of the first half but a fortunate goal for culloville right before half time meant they went in leading by 2. We were very wasteful in front of goal in the second half. Culloville picked off a few scores and we just lost shape as the game went on and went for goals far too soon. I'm disappointed in the scoreline I don't think it was a reflection of the game but apart from that we can't complain, the lads have done well this year and it's been a good year for the club.
Congratulations to Culloville and all the best to them next year.


the goal culloville got just before half time was a big deciding factor in the game and came at a crucial time as the bridge had dominated the first half without scoring very much. however culloville had plenty of chances in the first half with a few missed frees and other point scoring opportunities which were spurned. overall, the better team won on the day
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 18, 2006, 01:35:54 PM
Heard yesterday that Clarke is going back in for an operation in 4weeks, the doctors will be using a bit of his hamstring and putting it in his knee.
Quote from: rolloutking on December 16, 2006, 08:54:19 PM
Where did this news of needing reconstruction of the knee come from.
Lets just say a reliable source lol!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on December 18, 2006, 01:50:02 PM
was the reliable source telling you in wollys yesterday moring

is it still 3 for a fiver
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 18, 2006, 02:22:18 PM
No wollys for me kid  ;)

P.S. 3 for a fiver is long gone
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 18, 2006, 05:55:53 PM
Quotethe goal culloville got just before half time was a big deciding factor in the game and came at a crucial time as the bridge had dominated the first half without scoring very much. however culloville had plenty of chances in the first half with a few missed frees and other point scoring opportunities which were spurned. overall, the better team won on the day
I thought the failure to award Liam Campbell a penalty about 20 minutes in after his leg was near taken off with a foot block was a bigger factor.  Probably one of the worst decisions I've seen this year.  (Ref had a terrible game) We were two points ahead at the time and a converted penalty would have went a long way to winning the game. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on December 18, 2006, 11:16:41 PM
QuoteRef had a terrible game
Doesnt really surprise you does it?
Who was it anyway?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on December 19, 2006, 09:27:49 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 18, 2006, 05:55:53 PM
Quotethe goal culloville got just before half time was a big deciding factor in the game and came at a crucial time as the bridge had dominated the first half without scoring very much. however culloville had plenty of chances in the first half with a few missed frees and other point scoring opportunities which were spurned. overall, the better team won on the day
I thought the failure to award Liam Campbell a penalty about 20 minutes in after his leg was near taken off with a foot block was a bigger factor. Probably one of the worst decisions I've seen this year. (Ref had a terrible game) We were two points ahead at the time and a converted penalty would have went a long way to winning the game.

he was the same ref that did the u21 game between the 2 teams about 4 weeks ago and he had a terrible game that day aswell so perhaps he evened things out on sunday. you have a point ther about the penalty but ure clutching at straws really. surely ya cant blame the referee for the fact that the bridge scored 1 point from the 15th minute of the game until the end of the game?and that culloville dominated the whole 2nd period?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 19, 2006, 09:49:26 AM
Taken from the BBC website

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Twelve players have been suspended following the fighting which marred November's Ulster Club IFC semi-final between Ballymacnab and Stewartstown.
Four players have been handed massive 36-week bans after an ugly brawl broke out after the match at Casement Park.

The Ulster Council has also fined the clubs £1,675 but they were allowed to stay in the competition and will replay the game which ended in a draw.

Seven Ballymacnab received suspensions along with five from Stewartstown.

Derry champions Coleraine have already qualified for the final.

The Ballymacnab players were - Philip McCone, Dwayne McParland 36 weeks; Stephen Kennedy 12 weeks; Christopher Kennedy, Paul Kennedy, Damien McGeown and Gary McKee eight weeks.

Stewartstown - Anton Coyle, Tony Donnelly 36 weeks; Barry Bleeks 24 weeks; Ryan Small eight weeks and Rory O'Neill four weeks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on December 19, 2006, 11:46:25 AM
In light of the bans handed out for the battle of Omagh, it seems that the GAA has come down heavy on the lesser teams for a similar incident yet it wasn't by national role models beemed out on national TV, surely something has to be done about the consistancy of bans like this.

Im not condoning the incident.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 19, 2006, 11:52:30 AM
Maybe if the Nab hired so big wig lawyer to find a loophole in the rules (a la Tyrone n Dublin which there surely is) they might have a few of the suspendees available for selection before soon
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on December 19, 2006, 12:09:45 PM
I don't know much about this incident, but the media reports at the time suggested that Ballymacnab players become "involved" initially with Stewartstown subs. This could lead to an injustice, in that a sub, who wasn't likely to play anyway, could get a suspension which didn't affect the team too much while someone that was needed for the 60 minutes might be suspended on the other team, a much bigger loss.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 19, 2006, 06:19:47 PM
Trueblue
Quotehe was the same ref that did the u21 game between the 2 teams about 4 weeks ago and he had a terrible game that day as well so perhaps he evened things out on sunday. you have a point there about the penalty but ure clutching at straws really. surely ya cant blame the referee for the fact that the bridge scored 1 point from the 15th minute of the game until the end of the game?and that culloville dominated the whole 2nd period?
I didn't think it was the same ref that done both but anyway what issue had you with the ref in the u21 game?
What am I clutching at straws about?  I've never said I blamed the ref for anything but with a decent ref the game could have been very different, are you denying that? 
Two points up, 20 minutes in we should have had a penalty, around the same time one of your players hit gerard mcgarvey a thump in the mouth and got a yellow card instead of a red.  I suspect the only thing that saved your player was the fact that Gerard didnt go down. We criticise players for going to ground easily but if rules were properly implemented they wouldn't need to. 

The biggest joke of the day though was Alan O'Neill, in the second half, kicked Damien McCann when he was standing waiting to take a line ball.  It was seen by both the lines man and the ref and O'Neill got NOTHING for it.  Maybe it had something to do with O'Neill running like a tube over the ref and throwing his arms around him  ::) 30 seconds later there was a break in play and the ref went down and yellow carded our Fergal Campbell and made a sweeping movement with his leg, I assume Fergal kicked or put the boot in or something, but it's one rule for Alan O'Neill and another for Fergal Campbell?  What sort of refereeing is that? 

I'm not taking anything away from Culloville btw trueblue, they deserved their victory but the refereeing was a joke and refereeing in the county is a joke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on December 19, 2006, 07:27:41 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on December 19, 2006, 11:46:25 AM
In light of the bans handed out for the battle of Omagh, it seems that the GAA has come down heavy on the lesser teams for a similar incident yet it wasn't by national role models beemed out on national TV, surely something has to be done about the consistancy of bans like this.

Im not condoning the incident.

Couldn't agree more Spirit. Couldn't see that happening to two of the top Clubs, or indeed Counties. Danny Murphy set his stall out early by promising a crack down - from the TV pictures I could see, the violence was nothing compared to that in Omagh for example, yet 36 week bans are being waived about.

I'm not saying the bans are inappropriate, justy that there are serious inconsistencies and it stinks of slapping the weak, i.e. smaller clubs! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dexter on December 19, 2006, 08:57:40 PM
Were Ballymacnab not forced to play all their home games away this year as a result of an incident involving a referee last year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Feckitt on December 19, 2006, 09:57:33 PM
Does anyone know when the Armagh Dinner Dance is on, or have I missed it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on December 20, 2006, 12:02:29 AM
missed it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 20, 2006, 09:35:28 AM
Quote from: dexter on December 19, 2006, 08:57:40 PM
Were Ballymacnab not forced to play all their home games away this year as a result of an incident involving a referee last year?

they were banned form having home games for a year but won at appeal
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on December 20, 2006, 09:47:59 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 19, 2006, 06:19:47 PM
Trueblue
Quotehe was the same ref that did the u21 game between the 2 teams about 4 weeks ago and he had a terrible game that day as well so perhaps he evened things out on sunday. you have a point there about the penalty but ure clutching at straws really. surely ya cant blame the referee for the fact that the bridge scored 1 point from the 15th minute of the game until the end of the game?and that culloville dominated the whole 2nd period?
I didn't think it was the same ref that done both but anyway what issue had you with the ref in the u21 game?
What am I clutching at straws about? I've never said I blamed the ref for anything but with a decent ref the game could have been very different, are you denying that?
Two points up, 20 minutes in we should have had a penalty, around the same time one of your players hit gerard mcgarvey a thump in the mouth and got a yellow card instead of a red. I suspect the only thing that saved your player was the fact that Gerard didnt go down. We criticise players for going to ground easily but if rules were properly implemented they wouldn't need to.

The biggest joke of the day though was Alan O'Neill, in the second half, kicked Damien McCann when he was standing waiting to take a line ball. It was seen by both the lines man and the ref and O'Neill got NOTHING for it. Maybe it had something to do with O'Neill running like a tube over the ref and throwing his arms around him ::) 30 seconds later there was a break in play and the ref went down and yellow carded our Fergal Campbell and made a sweeping movement with his leg, I assume Fergal kicked or put the boot in or something, but it's one rule for Alan O'Neill and another for Fergal Campbell? What sort of refereeing is that?

I'm not taking anything away from Culloville btw trueblue, they deserved their victory but the refereeing was a joke and refereeing in the county is a joke.

ref was seamus o neill and he was the same as in the u21 game because i was playing in both games so i know he was the same ref.
wat about damien mc cann and no 21 coming in to the back of colm watters with ther knees in the first half and brendan bellew grabbing johnny mc geeney by the balls in the 2nd half. also the bridge were never ahead by 2 points at any stage of the match the only lead by a point at the stage u are talking about. anyway we could sit and argue all day about this but it wont make any difference 2 the outcome of the match.

however i do agree with u that the standard of referreing in the county this year has been a joke with numerous games being abandoned and mass brawls etc so that area has 2 be seriously looked at for next year.

on another issue why was ciaran conlon not playing on sunday? was he even at the game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Border Fox on December 20, 2006, 01:20:45 PM
Sam McClatchey is the only man!! well apart from Tony Watters or Martin Hatzer  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seanaglis on December 20, 2006, 01:29:22 PM
Quote from: Border Fox on December 20, 2006, 01:20:45 PM
Sam McClatchey is the only man!! well apart from Tony Watters or Martin Hatzer :D :D :D

Ahh....Sam McClatchey! hit a man a box in the mouth and he waves play on!!! but as soon as you open your mouth to him he will move frees up half the length of the pitch!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 20, 2006, 02:08:46 PM
I used to love seeing Sam coming out to ref a game.  Sam and I had a great understanding.  I loved seeing him lifting the ball against some shower of whinging hoors, (not pointing at Dromintee at all or the Clans :P) and marching, ball under arm, up the field after he gave a free.  "you keep talking' I'll keep walking"  Legend!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seanaglis on December 20, 2006, 02:18:14 PM
ive heard he was even worse as a player himself! He would have been boxing someone nearly every match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on December 20, 2006, 04:00:22 PM
BC1, I would believe without a shadow of a doubt Sam would have loved you on the field. There was no chance of winning soft frees when Sam was about
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on December 20, 2006, 04:03:39 PM
No giving soft fress would be brendan gormans forte (no pointing at Crossmaglen ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on December 20, 2006, 04:30:55 PM

Jayz we love getting sam to ref. he suits us down to the ground. if you play the ball he'll not punish you. he wouldn't suit cross now bc with their "new" style of play.

I hear young conlon took the huff?
Title: Old school ref
Post by: heganboy on December 20, 2006, 05:56:15 PM
Sam Mc Clatchey and wee Brian Nixon- my 2 favourite refs- spent the entire game between the 50's unless they had to send someone off (that had to be one hell of a flagrant foul) or to move the ball forward - usually at the expense of some fella in white boots and shin pads yappin
Bring back those days.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 20, 2006, 06:05:57 PM
Something like that aghdavoyle.  Sure no matter, plenty of good lads to take his place.

Trueblue
Quoteref was seamus o neill and he was the same as in the u21 game because i was playing in both games so i know he was the same ref.
wat about damien mc cann and no 21 coming in to the back of colm watters with ther knees in the first half and brendan bellew grabbing johnny mc geeney by the balls in the 2nd half. also the bridge were never ahead by 2 points at any stage of the match the only lead by a point at the stage u are talking about. anyway we could sit and argue all day about this but it wont make any difference 2 the outcome of the match.
::) What about what about what about? 
I highlighted specific incidents to highlight what a poor game the ref had and if you want to list everything a bridge player done wrong go ahead.
You still never told me what problem you had in the u21 game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on December 20, 2006, 06:37:35 PM
Quoteon another issue why was ciaran conlon not playing on sunday? was he even at the game?
It true he was away huffing?
Sorry didnt realise was already mentioned, surely he isnt too good for that,, if the stories are true

On sam, id say he was always delighted to head to portadown and the likes to be ref, as he always loved a good soccer lad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 20, 2006, 06:40:48 PM
Quote
however i do agree with u that the standard of referreing in the county this year has been a joke with numerous games being abandoned and mass brawls etc so that area has 2 be seriously looked at for next year.

Care to elaborate True Blue?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue is the colour on December 21, 2006, 09:31:30 AM
Pint of guinness u keep harping on about the ref in the culloville game and how poor he was, but ta tel u the truth it wouldnt have mattered who was d ref, it still wouldn't have changed the result or the 6 point margin. I agree referees do have to be more consistent with their decisions but look at the facts the bridge and culloville met 5 time this year in the seniors.
1st game in d championship was a draw. The bridge won the replay . we met 3 times in the league and we won all of those encounters, So suggest u take a leaf out of other Silverbridge players books and be more Gracious in defeat no one likes sour grapes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 21, 2006, 10:12:49 AM
Sam Mc Clatchey is an absolute disgrace of a referee. A referee should be fit and able to run and keep up with play, sam ain't. He is liked by south Armagh culties who are just big ignorant players with no particular skill ( that ain't the majority of south Armagh players). Ask Oisin Mc conville or Diarmuid Marsden if they like Sam and they will just laugh. Sam will let a game flow but in doing so he will miss a hell of a lot, are you guys seriously saying this is a good thing? A great point was raised there by a person on the board claiming that players wouldn't need to dive if they were protected. This is obvious from where i am sitting. Referees need to be universal and use common sense, You can't have a ref one week that lets everything go and the other week have one that blows for everything. A happy medium has to be found because some players are going to be seriously hurt by this type of  Pat Spillane "thuggery". Armagh county team have suffered from this because intercounty referees no longer let them away with there hard hitting football ( which i see nothing wrong with) The Aussies and the Irish are sitting down to sort out the compromised rules. It is time individual counties did the sameto address the concerns in our own game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Border Fox on December 21, 2006, 11:32:34 AM
On a serious matter, can the blues survive in division 1 next year? :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 21, 2006, 12:04:58 PM
On a serious matter they won't be getting any points from Davitt park
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue is the colour on December 21, 2006, 12:15:45 PM
Quote from: Border Fox on December 21, 2006, 11:32:34 AM
On a serious matter, can the blues survive in division 1 next year? :'(

I'd b hopeful that we can stay up in d1 nxt yr the only way we'll know is 2 go up and c. The only way a club can grow and develop is to keep progressing up the divisions playing bigger and better teams. Its a young squad so it will be intresting 2 c how they adjust to the increased pace but i can tel ya ever1 is lookin forward ta it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Border Fox on December 21, 2006, 12:21:48 PM
Whether you stay up or not, playing in div 1 can only be good for the IFC prospects  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on December 21, 2006, 12:45:39 PM
Quote from: Border Fox on December 21, 2006, 12:21:48 PM
Whether you stay up or not, playing in div 1 can only be good for the IFC prospects ;D

They'll not concur to that round Derrymacash
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on December 21, 2006, 01:45:27 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on December 21, 2006, 12:45:39 PM
Quote from: Border Fox on December 21, 2006, 12:21:48 PM
Whether you stay up or not, playing in div 1 can only be good for the IFC prospects ;D

They'll not concur to that round Derrymacash

but they're a bunch of wasters
Title: I see the schools are off...
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 21, 2006, 06:28:56 PM
QuotePint of guinness u keep harping on about the ref in the culloville game and how poor he was, but ta tel u the truth it wouldnt have mattered who was d ref, it still wouldn't have changed the result or the 6 point margin. I agree referees do have to be more consistent with their decisions but look at the facts the bridge and culloville met 5 time this year in the seniors.
1st game in d championship was a draw. The bridge won the replay . we met 3 times in the league and we won all of those encounters, So suggest u take a leaf out of other Silverbridge players books and be more Gracious in defeat no one likes sour grapes.
I criticise the ref after most games we play, win or lose but suddenly it's sour grapes? What part of congratulating Culloville and wishing them luck for next year was sour grapes? And harping on about the ref? I made one post highlighting 3 incidents that he made a bollocks of.  Do you disagree with me on any of the points I made? Trueblue agreed with me on the penalty incident.
If you can't have a sensible discussion about incidents in the game without coming out with something that a child would go away and f**k yourself.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on December 21, 2006, 09:35:58 PM
OK back to Sam...if a team mouths at him he will literally rob them blind but skull a man and you get away with it lol!

I remember one time a massive brawl broke out with all players and mentors kickin the crap outta each other. Instead of dishin out a few cards or abandoning the match he grabbed the ball and sat on it in the middle of the field and says "You might get tired fightin lads, but il not get tired watchin!"

Wat a legend!
Title: Re: Armagh Referees
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 22, 2006, 05:47:30 PM
Apart from Ollie Hearty, Brian Nixon and Sam McClatchey who are the other good referees in Armagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 23, 2006, 03:24:02 AM
Fortunately Brain Nixon is no more a ref (or linesman!!)

- Was told one day he ran onto the pitch , as linesman, & hit a player on the back of the head wit the linesman's flag.....then ran like feck....

Jimmy McKee is a quality ref in my opinion. Does a good job at inter-county level!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: john mcgill on December 23, 2006, 06:44:27 AM
Hears a rumour yesterday that John Morrison will be managing Tullysaran this year.  Any confirmation?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 23, 2006, 04:07:17 PM
Cross beat the bridge 3-8 to 1-7. 

f**king disaster of a game *bangs head of table*. Very similar to the minor semi final.  We looked to be matching them well for the first 5 minutes but then one of our lads dropped the ball coming out of defence and allowed Cross in for a goal, five minutes later Micheal Reel made an excellent save but a cross player sent the rebound to the net.  I think we went 7 points down at that stage but fought back well and only 3 between the teams at half time. Still only 3 between us 15 minutes into the second half, cross sent a long ball in, Stefan murphy coming out to collect it comfortably when he was pushed in the back, ball ran on in and knocked to net.   >:(  Game over.  Cross ran away with it after that, a Liam campbell gaol towards the end give us some consolidation. 
Liam Campbell was the best for us, himself and Aherne for Cross were the best on the field. 
Cross are nothing special, dangerous in attack but very ordinary everywhere else.  Cannot believe our f**king luck but all the best to them in the next round.

Sniper...On Ciaran conlon
QuoteIt true he was away huffing?
No, it would appear rumours have been greatly exaggerated, even within the club.  He's out with a bad flu and only made it as a spectator today.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 27, 2006, 06:40:19 PM
Was out at it Pint. The two first goals were brutal defending and i feel sorry for the keeper on the second. The third goal was as blantant push as i have seen and just when yous were giving them a game. Was young Mallie not playing or is my eyesight just getting worse?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 27, 2006, 07:43:13 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 27, 2006, 06:40:19 PM
Was out at it Pint. The two first goals were brutal defending and i feel sorry for the keeper on the second. The third goal was as blantant push as i have seen and just when yous were giving them a game. Was young Mallie not playing or is my eyesight just getting worse?
Yeah Anthony was playing at corner back.  I think it was Conal Quinn that dropped the ball for the first goal, it happens the best of them,  but it's frustrating to give away such a simple goal and the ref handed them the third  >:(
What did you think of Cross? I wasn't overly impressed. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 28, 2006, 03:49:44 PM
Quote from: john mcgill on December 23, 2006, 06:44:27 AM
Hears a rumour yesterday that John Morrison will be managing Tullysaran this year.  Any confirmation?

Heard this myself...no confirmation yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on December 28, 2006, 09:07:22 PM
Did Mickey Moran and John Morrison make some strange pact as they left Mayo? Moran heads of to a wee club on the edge of the lough called Cargin, while Morrison heads to Tullysaran.

What is their cunning plan?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 30, 2006, 12:14:21 AM
Was npt overly impressed myself. I felt that just before the third goal the Bridge were going to give us a great last few minutes. I would say alot of the cross players were 'out of sorts' and as you know yourself they could go out tomorrow and win by twenty. Campbell was best player on field alot better than anyone from Cross even Hanratty. Heard tonight about that Conlon thing being bullshit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Horatio Kane on December 30, 2006, 04:13:13 PM
Cross hammered Harps today in U 21 semi at mullahbrack...totally dominated game and were superior in every dept.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 30, 2006, 07:35:37 PM
Quote from: Horatio Kane on December 30, 2006, 04:13:13 PM
Cross hammered Harps today in U 21 semi at mullahbrack...totally dominated game and were superior in every dept.
What was the score?
Any word on dromintee v ogs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on December 31, 2006, 12:39:41 AM
Hear ogs got beat well, and could have been worse.. Any reports .. corn etc?
I have to say typical harps wen hyped up to perform as potential champions they fail miserably, no doubt cross roughed them up and no doubt that was end of contest, could be wrong but doubt it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 31, 2006, 02:23:15 AM
Would you look at what comes from a Dromintee man... :D

QuoteI have to say typical harps wen hyped up to perform as potential champions they fail miserably
Aw no, I'll leave it...it's just too easy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 31, 2006, 11:48:03 AM
Quote from: holylandsniper on December 31, 2006, 12:39:41 AM
Hear ogs got beat well, and could have been worse.. Any reports .. corn etc?
I have to say typical harps wen hyped up to perform as potential champions they fail miserably, no doubt cross roughed them up and no doubt that was end of contest, could be wrong but doubt it.

If you had been paying attention recently you would know that Harps were missing a fair few players which undoubtedly contributed to the result and no harps men were 'hyping' anything (mostly the opposite) , but I hate to use excuses, Cross were far superior. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 31, 2006, 11:49:49 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 31, 2006, 02:23:15 AM
Would you look at what comes from a Dromintee man... :D

QuoteI have to say typical harps wen hyped up to perform as potential champions they fail miserably
Aw no, I'll leave it...it's just too easy.

Not too big on irony in Dromintee :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on December 31, 2006, 11:58:11 AM
haha i was expecting that reaction
though seriously, cross arent that good, compared to previous teams, and was talking to a man last night in the town; Toal has walked and he thought more had i didnt realise this.
Still would have expected harps to put up more of a fight
and yes Dromintee have failed a few times but anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 31, 2006, 01:16:13 PM
QuoteHas Toal walked from the Seniors also, or just the U-21s?
Has he walked completely? Will he be playing next year?

I note the bridge have come closest to Cross  ;D
How will Dromintee do sniper, corn etc?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 01, 2007, 01:34:56 PM
Armagh Under-21 Football Championship Final (2.00)
Dromintee v Crossmaglen (Barney Henry) at Páirc Na bPiarsaigh Óga, Ard Mhachá

It's a pity there's no field closer  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 01, 2007, 04:26:14 PM
eh I dont know. Dromintee have a good team but Cross will be favourites. Three years ago we beat Cross in the final and there is no reason why we can not repeat it but Cross are Cross and love the finals. Will probably depend on who comes out in midfield as both teams have fast forwards who will benefit from lots of service.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 02, 2007, 11:58:20 AM

Dromintee are definatley a better team than they were last year but even at this age, cross have all of the pedigree and the habit of winning. all of their team must have either senior or minor county medals?

fingers crossed... its like 3 years ago all over again and hopefully so will the result!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 02, 2007, 05:36:29 PM
QuotePáirc Na bPiarsaigh Óga, Ard Mhachá
How exactly do you get to Ogs new field?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 02, 2007, 05:38:33 PM
Also, is the match this Sunday, same time as the GM MCKenna Cup?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 02, 2007, 05:48:11 PM
No its Saturday i think
Title: Re: Armagh McKenna Cup Panel
Post by: Armagh Exile on January 03, 2007, 11:25:05 AM
ARMAGH DR. McKENNA CUP PANEL

Ciaran McKinney (Pearse Og), Alan Hearty (Crossmaglen), B Donaghy (Clonmore), JP Donnelly (Harps), Paul Duffy (Pearse Og), Stephan Forker (Maghery), Philip Loughran (Cladaí), Tony McClelland (Granemore), G McCreesh (?), P McCreesh (?), Stephen McDonnell (Killeavey), Kieran McGeeney (Na Fianna), Paul McGrane (Ballyhegan), Ciaran McKeever (St Patrick's), Paddy McKeever (Ballyhegan), Enda McNulty (Ballyboden), Malachy Mackin (St Patrick's), Ciaran Toner (Granemore), Martin O'Rourke (Dromintee), Gareth Swift (Harps), Peader Toal (Harps), Martin Ferris (Carrickcruppen), Neil McSherry (Whitecross), Kevin O'Rourke (St Michael's).

www.orchardcounty.com (http://www.orchardcounty.com)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 03, 2007, 11:28:37 AM

The goalkeeper situation is an odd one. any time i've seen the younger hearty i haven't thought him great. off the top of my head, the harps, cullaville, cruppen and dromintee first choice keepers are way better.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on January 03, 2007, 12:22:20 PM
Theres a few surprising ommissions for me from that squad.  Where is Andrew Mallon, is he playing for one of the universities?  I also would have thought Shane Smyth would have been worth another look in this competition after the great year he had allbeit in division 3.  Mind you I might be a bit biased in that regaurd
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 03, 2007, 12:31:21 PM
I know we may be short a few players, but do Geezer, Flappy, Stevie and Enda McNulty really need to play all during January on wet, heavy pitches?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 03, 2007, 12:34:57 PM
 Where is Andrew Mallon, is he playing for one of the universities?
Quote

who is andrew mallon or what club does he play with?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 03, 2007, 12:44:45 PM
Andrew Mallon could be shortened to Andy Mallon and if you don't him ye may go back into yer cave. Andy does go to uni so I'm thinking there must be a case of itchy fingers somewhere on orchardcounty
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 03, 2007, 12:47:55 PM
I presume he means Andy from ogs
Few omissions and a few there that I would not think is up to county standard, wee lad from Whitecross and Newtown,
Toal included yet again, wont play for Harps, cost Armagh U21 ulster title last year :-\
Smokin Jow i would presume they are there to add a bit of experience and help the younger players.
Uladh would agree with you there, an average keeper, though yet again its who you are..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 03, 2007, 12:59:25 PM
Quote from: BenDover on January 03, 2007, 12:44:45 PM
Andrew Mallon could be shortened to Andy Mallon and if you don't him ye may go back into yer cave. Andy does go to uni so I'm thinking there must be a case of itchy fingers somewhere on orchardcounty

jaysus didnt recognise the name never heard him called andrew in me life plus its 1st day back at work so minds not working too well :D :D
i thought hes a spark is he not unless hes taking a career change
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 03, 2007, 01:06:18 PM
I thought he was 1 too, was pretty sure he wasnt in Uni..maybe he just wants a break/rest
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on January 03, 2007, 01:25:36 PM
Holylandsniper, did Toal shag your mother, would ya ever leave it out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 03, 2007, 01:29:57 PM
Maybe Mallon is just not good enough for county football, not playing for cross and all that ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 03, 2007, 01:47:27 PM
I see there is a load of North Armagh boys included again (not) Maybe Joe is to lazy to drive in that direction :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 03, 2007, 01:53:45 PM
Quote from: BenDover on January 03, 2007, 12:44:45 PM
Andrew Mallon could be shortened to Andy Mallon and if you don't him ye may go back into yer cave. Andy does go to uni so I'm thinking there must be a case of itchy fingers somewhere on orchardcounty

Where does he go to uni?  He's a time-served Spark AFAIK
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on January 03, 2007, 01:57:07 PM
I think its a typo benny, the sinner is a very close and good friend of Andy's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on January 03, 2007, 02:19:16 PM
I cant win last time I called him Andy Mallon I got criticised for calling him Andy because someone (on a different board) complained I was trying to make it look like I was friendly with him when I have never met him before in my life.  But yes I did mean Andy Mallon from Pearse Og
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 03, 2007, 02:41:06 PM
I think if ye called him Andrew he'd take a double look at ye before he realised you were talking to him.

Back to work then Spirit? Depressing as fook being back
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on January 03, 2007, 02:53:54 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 03, 2007, 01:47:27 PM
I see there is a load of North Armagh boys included again (not) Maybe Joe is to lazy to drive in that direction :P

i'm suprised at this too as i thought a few lads up here might have got a run out for a weak armagh team. obviously not though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 03, 2007, 03:36:01 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on January 03, 2007, 02:53:54 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 03, 2007, 01:47:27 PM
I see there is a load of North Armagh boys included again (not) Maybe Joe is to lazy to drive in that direction :P

i'm suprised at this too as i thought a few lads up here might have got a run out for a weak armagh team. obviously not though

who in your opinion from north armagh would be worthy of a run out? its not terribly surprising 2 see no  new north armagh players included but would be nice if a few were to stake a claim for selection
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 03, 2007, 03:38:50 PM
Do you not think Barry McDonald from Tir na nOg deserves a chance to stake a claim?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 03, 2007, 03:41:51 PM
is he the lad who was in the u21 team that won the all ireland? he was a brave good player then i havent seen him playing since so i wouldnt really know what way he has progressed since then. who else from down there would be good enough in peoples opinions?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 03, 2007, 03:43:11 PM
Yea he started on that U21 team and as far as I know he's been their POTY for a couple of seasons now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on January 03, 2007, 04:02:03 PM
barry mcdonald probably would be worth a try.
is ryan henderson playing for UUJ?
ronan austin was very good in the mckenna cup a few years ago.
dwyer mc alindon was called up to the team last year but didnt get a run out because of injury. should he get an opportunity this year?
i'm sure there are more  ;)

i'm not saying these lads are good enough to play for armagh in the championship but surely they are good enough for a run out in the mckenna cup, especially after looking at that squad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 03, 2007, 04:12:45 PM
yeah them 4 lads prob would be worth looking at i was just looking thew that list of players for the mc kenna cup there and there is about 10-12 of them were u21 last year,wereas them boys u have named would be a bit older seems to be that joe is really going with boys just out of minor and u21 dont know how good of a tactic this is.

no dont think henderson is a student any more
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 03, 2007, 04:18:56 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on January 03, 2007, 04:02:03 PM
barry mcdonald probably would be worth a try.
is ryan henderson playing for UUJ?
ronan austin was very good in the mckenna cup a few years ago.
dwyer mc alindon was called up to the team last year but didnt get a run out because of injury. should he get an opportunity this year?

I think these 4 boys would be worth trying out, was Austin not on the panel last year? And because of Andy's obvious omission  ::) ::) ::) Dwyer could play corner back until Andy is ready to show his face again lol!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 03, 2007, 04:55:07 PM
I think only one of those four mentioned deserve a chance and thats Dwyer McAlinden as he is untried at county level and def has the potential if he can get fit. McDonald is a good club player but def not county material. Henderson plays with wing mirrors and a yellow streak. Austie on his day is as good as anyone in the county, but not consistant enough.

But if i be really honest nobody springs to mind and that's the problem. But i have to say that there are a very good bunch of players around the U16 to minor age around the town and i hope its only a matter of time before we see a few of them wearing the orange and white.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on January 03, 2007, 04:56:25 PM
Thought Joe Quigley of Armagh Harps may have gotten a call-up to that squad - he did last year.  Reliable free taker, but lacks a bit of pace.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on January 03, 2007, 04:59:42 PM
Lack pace - Must be Genetic ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on January 03, 2007, 05:18:09 PM
Spirit, I take it you are related to Joe?  Is he injured or has he been passed over.  I thought he fared pretty well against Fermanagh last year and would benefit from having better players around him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 03, 2007, 06:37:19 PM
QuoteCiaran McKinney (Pearse Og), Alan Hearty (Crossmaglen), B Donaghy (Clonmore), JP Donnelly (Harps), Paul Duffy (Pearse Og), Stephan Forker (Maghery), Philip Loughran (Cladaí), Tony McClelland (Granemore), G McCreesh (?), P McCreesh (?), Stephen McDonnell (Killeavey), Kieran McGeeney (Na Fianna), Paul McGrane (Ballyhegan), Ciaran McKeever (St Patrick's), Paddy McKeever (Ballyhegan), Enda McNulty (Ballyboden), Malachy Mackin (St Patrick's), Ciaran Toner (Granemore), Martin O'Rourke (Dromintee), Gareth Swift (Harps), Peader Toal (Harps), Martin Ferris (Carrickcruppen), Neil McSherry (Whitecross), Kevin O'Rourke (St Michael's).
Is Alan Hearty even the second choice keeper in cross?  He wasn't even named on the panel for the county final, was he injured or something? I wouldn't have him near the county panel, but he's a cross man  ::)
Speaking of bias, no Stephen Kernan? (Edit, just noticed Alan Hearty only cross player I assume rest of them are taking a break?)
Stephan Forker is down to play for his Uni. 

QuoteI see there is a load of North Armagh boys included again (not) Maybe Joe is to lazy to drive in that direction
Well if he won't drive a few mile out the road to the Bridge you couldn't expect him to head to Lurgan or somewhere.

Sniper
QuoteToal included yet again, wont play for Harps, cost Armagh U21 ulster title last year
Seriously, what is that about? Is it not as plain as day that the lad doesn't have the attitude?
And before you start spirit, don't you think that we're entitled to question his inclusion? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 03, 2007, 07:20:36 PM
QuoteSpeaking of bias, no Stephen Kernan?
Pints he probaly isnt included because of club commitments, which answers your first question, obviously he isnt needed for club, i think im rite in saying he played for Cross Bs all last year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 03, 2007, 07:27:38 PM
Just copped that on alright sniper, and the county has the cross B team keeper? Remember this is the same lad that took McKinney's place when he opted out of a few games last year.  You wouldnt know whether to laugh or pull your hair out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on January 03, 2007, 10:06:43 PM
I know I mentioned it before but it kind of got lost in my Andrew Mallon comment, but what about Shane Smyth.  Was in the panel in 2002 and was only dropped in 2003 to have surgery for a knee injury, hasnt been back in the panel since but had a good year with Annaghmore this year as they came out of division 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 04, 2007, 09:43:05 AM

Is Alan Hearty even the second choice keeper in cross? He wasn't even named on the panel for the county final, was he injured or something?

Stephan Forker is down to play for his Uni.

QuoteI see there is a load of North Armagh boys included again (not) Maybe Joe is to lazy to drive in that direction
Well if he won't drive a few mile out the road to the Bridge you couldn't expect him to head to Lurgan or somewhere.

no alan hearty wasnt injured i dont think. dont know why he was called in to that panel really cos he doesnt feature for cross supposedly because he doesnt want to play 2nd fiddle for them. i thought that miceal reel from the bridge may have got a chance put in some fine performances against us this season and hes a good keeper.

i thought that stefan forker was still at university? did he not play in the mc cormick cup earlier in the year for dungannan? i was near sure he did,are people possibly mixing him up with his brother pau

pints who do you think from the bridge deserves to get a chance to play in mc kenna cup? only 2 i would think would be niall and miceal reel. from playing against culloville a few times this year do you think there is any of our players could be worth a shout?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 04, 2007, 10:17:56 AM

i thought that stefan forker was still at university? did he not play in the mc cormick cup earlier in the year for dungannan? i was near sure he did,are people possibly mixing him up with his brother pau

sorry i meant to say is stefan forker not still at st pats college in dungannon i thought he played for them earlier in the year in the mc cormick cup. are people mixing him up with his brother paul who is in 3rd year in jordanstown?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Border Fox on January 04, 2007, 12:21:24 PM
Dunno Trueblue

Smiler would probably be worth a shout if Hearty is, but I don't think he's county material,
Colm is too young,
What about Fergal Rowland, is he long back from injury?

The only solution - Send for big Alan!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 04, 2007, 01:00:40 PM
fergals a very good player i think hed be worth a shout and same with smiler,colms playing mc crory football so hes time on his side. im glad nobody is on it from culloville because it would severely handicap us next year in the first division and we will need all our players fit and playing on a weekly basis if were going to survive so personally im not too disappointed that nobody is called onto it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 04, 2007, 01:13:34 PM
I forgot about Michael Austin (full back) he's not a bad player, could do a job if the Francie fella can't get that shoulder sorted out. I know he's not the quickest but he's big and strong with a good pair of hands and i suppose Francie is no speed machine either. Could anyone tell me what club/clubs them two McCreesh fella's are from? havent heard to much mentioned about them lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 04, 2007, 01:16:20 PM
Gerard - Mullaghbawn
Paudie - Cullyhanna -  would i think be the best of the two,
both defenders and both on last years U21 panel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 04, 2007, 01:51:48 PM
both mc creeshs are good players, but i would rate paudie as a better player than gerard.
he was marking mark lynch last year in the u21 championship semi final in cross and hardly gave him a kick at it. hes also a good attacking player and well capable of kicking a score tho both players are very left footed and paudie would need to get a good bit bigger and stronger

gerards a more tenacious player very strong in the tackle  and is another good prospect
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 04, 2007, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 04, 2007, 01:13:34 PM
I forgot about Michael Austin (full back) he's not a bad player, could do a job if the Francie fella can't get that shoulder sorted out. I know he's not the quickest but he's big and strong with a good pair of hands and i suppose Francie is no speed machine either. Could anyone tell me what club/clubs them two McCreesh fella's are from? havent heard to much mentioned about them lads.


austin is a good player alright and would be worth a try. hes a big strong horse of a man. what age is he? is he young enough to possibly be made into a county player? if dwyer mc a linden was good enough last year he would have been worth a look again this year then in my opinion. he played ritely versus cross in county final. what about michael shanks from clann eireann?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 04, 2007, 02:29:23 PM
stefan forker is seventh year in the acadamy paul is third year at jtown and on their panel, henderson dropped out of uni in 2nd year(2 years ago)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 04, 2007, 05:02:54 PM
Joe Q is not a bad player, he's good with the free's as well but i'm not sure about county material is he not a bit small for that step up. Although a mate of mine was told once that size dosen't matter but i think it does ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 04, 2007, 09:50:12 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on January 03, 2007, 10:06:43 PM
I know I mentioned it before but it kind of got lost in my Andrew Mallon comment, but what about Shane Smyth.  Was in the panel in 2002 and was only dropped in 2003 to have surgery for a knee injury, hasnt been back in the panel since but had a good year with Annaghmore this year as they came out of division 3

What age is big Smyth? I only seen him play a couple of times, but would think the likes of Davey Turley would be ahead of him??

I'd trhow McDoo into the McKenna cup squad...test him now! - before it's too late.

Can't beleive Micky Austin is being talked about!!  :-\

Compared to Tyrone's "New" panel - I'm slightly worried about what is coming through the ranks!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 04, 2007, 10:35:16 PM

Strong rumours around dromintee that barry shannon, aidan o'rourke, benny mcardle, vincy martin and shane o'neill could be playing county football for louth this year....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 04, 2007, 10:56:17 PM
If its true Shane must have some kick on him if he's going to play form Sydney.  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 05, 2007, 01:20:45 AM
trueblue
Quotepints who do you think from the bridge deserves to get a chance to play in mc kenna cup? only 2 i would think would be niall and miceal reel.
Two great lads but not who'd I'd pick first for county duty.  Who deserves a chance? Cormac McEvoy, playing some great stuff for us for the last few years, himself and Ciaran Conlon are the two players we have who'd currently be county standard.
Micheal Reel is an excellent keeper,  has it all, shot stopper, excellent under high ball, intelligence clearances, excellent kickout but this was his first year of senior football and although he hasn't put a foot wrong I think it's too soon.  Give him and Gerard McGarvey (you must remember gerry's performance in u21 game?) another 12 months and they'll be county standard too.
I'm not sure if I'd say Niall Reel is county standard though he, and a few others, would not look out of place on the mckenna cup panel.  Niall is the type of player you don't really appreciate until he's not there. Quietly goes about his business without a fuss, he had Stevie McDonnell in his arse pocket a few weeks ago, I'd love to see if he could do for the county what he does for us.
But lets face it, these boys will probably not get their chance, not under Joe anyway.

Quotefrom playing against culloville a few times this year do you think there is any of our players could be worth a shout?
Ah I wouldnt have a clue to be honest, no one really stood out but that doesnt mean there isnt someone of the ability there.
I dont play either, far too oul, lazy and big boned.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 05, 2007, 08:50:11 AM
I agree with the Goat that Armagh's panel compared to Tyrone's looks mediocre however I've heard that that fella Micky Austin is meant to be a bit of a legend up that neck of the woods. D turley is not a bad player, i marked him a few times myself (that was probably why he called into the county panel a few years ago :P) but i can't see him improving whats already there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 05, 2007, 08:55:33 AM
Quote from: illdecide on January 05, 2007, 08:50:11 AM
I've heard that that fella Micky Austin is meant to be a bit of a legend up that neck of the woods.

:D :D :D I wouldn't say thats for his footballing abilities
Title: O'Connell's Tullysaran Prize Draw
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 05, 2007, 09:27:15 AM
Thought I'd start this thread before Dean Nullec beat me to it!!!!!

O'Connell's GAC Tullysaran have just stated a prize draw where the first prize is a Mitsibushi L200 (one of those double cab pick up yokes). 

For any of you that aren't aware Tullysaran currently do not have a playable pitch and the aim of this fundraising is to improve the facilities for the club, the first task will be to carry out work on the current pitch so that it can be playable in the near future.

The tickets come in books of 3 for £20 (or 1 ticket for a tenner).

If anyone feels that they would like to support this noble cause then send me a PM and I will organise something, or alternatively buy some tickets from the sellers that you will see at the upcoming county matches.

Thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 05, 2007, 10:40:31 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 05, 2007, 01:20:45 AM
trueblue
Quotepints who do you think from the bridge deserves to get a chance to play in mc kenna cup? only 2 i would think would be niall and miceal reel.
Two great lads but not who'd I'd pick first for county duty. Who deserves a chance? Cormac McEvoy, playing some great stuff for us for the last few years, himself and Ciaran Conlon are the two players we have who'd currently be county standard.
Micheal Reel is an excellent keeper, has it all, shot stopper, excellent under high ball, intelligence clearances, excellent kickout but this was his first year of senior football and although he hasn't put a foot wrong I think it's too soon. Give him and Gerard McGarvey (you must remember gerry's performance in u21 game?) another 12 months and they'll be county standard too.
I'm not sure if I'd say Niall Reel is county standard though he, and a few others, would not look out of place on the mckenna cup panel. Niall is the type of player you don't really appreciate until he's not there. Quietly goes about his business without a fuss, he had Stevie McDonnell in his arse pocket a few weeks ago, I'd love to see if he could do for the county what he does for us.
But lets face it, these boys will probably not get their chance, not under Joe anyway.

Quotefrom playing against culloville a few times this year do you think there is any of our players could be worth a shout?
Ah I wouldnt have a clue to be honest, no one really stood out but that doesnt mean there isnt someone of the ability there.
I dont play either, far too oul, lazy and big boned.

cant say i really rate mc evoy that highly to be honest with you. any time he played against us this year he didnt impress me and he was nowhere to be seen when the going got tough in the 2nd half of the play off final,thats not to say however that he didnt play well against other teams,he may have done so but he was never terribly effective against us.  conlons on the uuj mc kenna cup panel so he has a good chance to make an impression on it but i would imagine he will be left with the armagh u21s for this year anyway. for me niall reel is the heartbeat of the bridge team and hes by far the best player yous have. hes a good leader and never throws the head at it. its a joke he never made last years u21 team never mind the panel

its hard to see too many of the young lads on the present mc kenna cup panel making much of an impression but you would never know.

just on a different point,what is the story this year in relation to county players, are they going to be allowed more playing time during the league with their clubs or is this going to be restricted in the way that it has been in the last 4 or 5 years?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 05, 2007, 10:50:00 AM

I'm not generally one for defending Joe (bc will back that up) but it must be very difficult to keep a handle on all of the potential in the county. i will say that he should have a network of reliable scouts watching all of the senior and u21 football in the county through the year. if this were done, those who are making the right shapes should be looked at at the end of the season while lads are still training and in shape. i refuse to believe the claims that joe just takes the recommendations of his sons on who is and isn't good enough for county football in armagh.

Aghdavoyle - i find that very difficult to believe
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on January 05, 2007, 11:33:29 AM
Not 100% sure what age Smyth is but I dont think hes more than 3 years older than me so that would have him around 25.  The only reason I suggest him is that he was in the panel in 2002 and for me he is playing better football in a higher division now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 05, 2007, 11:38:50 AM
Quote from: Uladh on January 05, 2007, 10:50:00 AM

I'm not generally one for defending Joe (bc will back that up) but it must be very difficult to keep a handle on all of the potential in the county. i will say that he should have a network of reliable scouts watching all of the senior and u21 football in the county through the year. if this were done, those who are making the right shapes should be looked at at the end of the season while lads are still training and in shape. i refuse to believe the claims that joe just takes the recommendations of his sons on who is and isn't good enough for county football in armagh.

thats a good idea uladh. its not physically possible for joe to be at all league games saying they are all played at the same time on the same day however he should have scouts looking out for players over the period of the whole seson. this would give him a chance to draw up a list of players who have been playing well etc. never heard that rumour that he just goes on the recommendations of his sons,wher has that come from?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 05, 2007, 12:15:35 PM
Quote from: Uladh on January 05, 2007, 10:50:00 AM
Aghdavoyle - i find that very difficult to believe

well i'm just saying what i was told
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 05, 2007, 01:06:54 PM
No harm to ya Aghdavoyle but out off all them lads mentioned A o'Rourke is the only fella with a slim chance of getting a game at Louth (and he does need to slim down a bit as well) , the rest of them lads are just good club players. I seen a fair bit of Louth last year and they don't need them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 05, 2007, 03:59:26 PM
i went to college with lads from the same club as smith and they were always raving about him being deadly,ive never actually seen him play tho hes supposed to have a lethal left foot. if he manages to prove himself in division 2 next year he could be in with an outside chance of a recall
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 05, 2007, 10:57:44 PM
Trueblue
Quotecant say i really rate mc evoy that highly to be honest with you. any time he played against us this year he didnt impress me and he was nowhere to be seen when the going got tough in the 2nd half of the play off final,thats not to say however that he didnt play well against other teams,he may have done so but he was never terribly effective against us.  conlons on the uuj mc kenna cup panel so he has a good chance to make an impression on it but i would imagine he will be left with the armagh u21s for this year anyway. for me niall reel is the heartbeat of the bridge team and hes by far the best player yous have. hes a good leader and never throws the head at it. its a joke he never made last years u21 team never mind the panel
I only seen the second league game and the playoff against yous and  I can't say Cormac was at his best in either of those, to be fair he wasn't on his own. I've seen him a lot more than you and trust me he's county standard.  There are some faults with his game but he has the talent.  He's turned 24 now and I think has done enough in club football to be given, at the very least, a chance.
Ciaran Conlon has turned 20 now and has only one more year with u21s (he misses a second year by a few weeks), there has been several called on to the county senior panel at the same age and he is as good, if not better than some of those.  He warmed the county u21 bench last year which was a joke though not nearly as big of joke as Niall Reel not being included in the panel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 06, 2007, 01:05:34 AM
ILLdecide you obviously have not seen much of them Dromintee boys then.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 06, 2007, 06:47:01 PM
Cross beat Domintee 1-14 to 1-9, I only caught the second half but Dromintee were unfortunate as they missed at least 3 really good goal chances- all created by the havoc that  O'Neill (Gareth or Shane?) caused at FF in the second half with a good wind behind them.

That Hanratty seems to be a bit of a knave, I noticed it last week when Cross hammered the harps, but he was as bad again this week, at least he got sent off this week.  Tony Kernan for Cross looks like he could the pick of the JK litter, excellent again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on January 06, 2007, 08:40:12 PM
I thought Hanrantty should have got the line early in the second half, Cross deserved the victory in what was an entertaining game.

There was talk of the Cross Midfielder being a replacement for Paul McGrane a few months ago, didnt find him to impressive today and nowhere near county standard

As for Dromitee, they never let up and if they had of taken a few goal chances then the result might have been different but Cross also had goal chances at the other end.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2007, 09:40:09 PM
Just before the season starts I'd like to wish Joe Kernan, the Armagh teams and all their splendid supporters all the very best in 2007. May you achieve my heart's desire.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on January 06, 2007, 10:18:10 PM
Crossmaglen cannot seem to do much wrong at any level of competition and they look set to dominate for another decade, Dromintee seem to have shot their bolt and the Harps will close the gap in the next couple of years but I dunno if they are going to be good enough to beat Cross when it matters in the championship.

The only bright spot about their domination is that the county is full of their players and we are always among the top few teams in the country but still, their domination of Armagh football is way beyond old.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on January 06, 2007, 10:49:01 PM
Quote from: ONeill on January 06, 2007, 09:40:09 PM
Just before the season starts I'd like to wish Joe Kernan, the Armagh teams and all their splendid supporters all the very best in 2007. May you achieve my heart's desire.

Thanks Shane - that's decent of you!  :)

Out of curiosity, what is your heart's desire?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ONeill on January 06, 2007, 11:43:32 PM
Ach, you know, this and that. Sort of a muchness since October 2002.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 07, 2007, 04:04:06 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on January 06, 2007, 08:40:12 PM
There was talk of the Cross Midfielder being a replacement for Paul McGrane a few months ago, didnt find him to impressive today and nowhere near county standard


Any time I've seen that big McKenna lad playing he's been fairly poor.  Charlie Vernon outfielded him on numerous ocassions last week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2007, 04:37:43 PM
Terrible game. St. Mary's were poor I thought, any division 1 club team could beat them.  With all the possession we had in the first half we should have been far further in front and we can count ourselves lucky that St. Mary's wasted most of the chances that fell to them.  5 points? in the second half against a team with 14 men is poor.  Stevie was no where near his best. Mckinney made a few errors. Andy Mallon was solid enough though he didnt have much opposition. Marty O'Rourke tried hard. Mal Mackin is not a county standard. Out of the non regulars Swift, I thought, was the best of a bad lot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 07, 2007, 06:18:18 PM
Miserable enough day and a miserable game. Was a bit disappointed in Armagh, St mary's were down to 14 men for most of the game and Armagh should have been a bit more clinical in putting them away. St Mary's were fairly limited. Thought Andy Mallon had a decent game and Paudie McCreesh was solid on his debut. In the forwards Stevie was quiet enough but still showed most of the limited quality on show. Got two good second half points. Swift was decent. I think we'll struggle in the forwards this year without Clarke and Brian Mallon, Stevie McDonnell might have to shoulder most of the burden of getting scores.

On another point, did anybody else think that charging £7stg was sticking the hand in a bit?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2007, 06:21:47 PM
QuoteOn another point, did anybody else think that charging £7stg was sticking the hand in a bit?
Yes I did! f**king ridiculous!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 07, 2007, 06:44:12 PM
did toal start/play any part???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2007, 06:54:07 PM
Quote from: Candyman on January 07, 2007, 06:44:12 PM
did toal start/play any part???
Yeah he came off with maybe hmm 10 minutes? to go.

From the BBC
QuoteArmagh still had plenty to spare over St Mary's despite having to dip into their reserve strength for Sunday's Gaelic Life McKenna Cup encounter.

Joe Kernan's side were able to fashion a 0-10 to 0-4 win despite being without a host of regulars at Crossmaglen.

The Ulster Champions led 0-5 to 0-2 at the interval with Steven McDonnell among the scorers.

With full-back Ciaran Toner and JP Donnelly impressing for Armagh, they extended their lead in the second half.
::) Must have been at a different game than me, Toner did ok but JP Donnelly was far from impressive and allowed Ryan Hamill any amount of time and space he wanted. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 07, 2007, 06:57:00 PM
how did toal play, any good scores?? some reports say nippy faired out ok???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2007, 07:05:41 PM
Quote from: Candyman on January 07, 2007, 06:57:00 PM
how did toal play, any good scores?? some reports say nippy faired out ok???
Toal and McClelland did a lot of passing the ball around the 40 but that's about it.  Mal Mackin took a good point towards the end thats the only score that stands out for me. I can't say we created one goal chance and the ball dropped into the keepers hands several times. Swift was probably the best of a bad lot. Toner did well in defence but the St. Mary's full forward line was non existant and they played with a two man FF line after they were reduced to 14 just before half time.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 07, 2007, 07:12:33 PM
its about time nippy realised what he can do and started puttin the effort in??? i hear lavery is bouncin in training, pity he's with the uni at the min???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 07, 2007, 07:15:38 PM
How did Hamill fair Pint?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hitzelsperger on January 07, 2007, 08:00:00 PM
is tommy hamill from tir na nog called into the armagh panel after today?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2007, 08:30:31 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 07, 2007, 07:15:38 PM
How did Hamill fair Pint?
Well through the oul blue and yellow glasses I thought he did well, all things considered, and was probably one of their better players.  He was at wing half forward today and while i don't know too much about St. Mary's or Uni football I don't think half forward is the place for him, in fact it's probably the last place I'd have him.  He spent a lot of time in his own defence and did do a lot of good there. Every attack they had in the first half was worked through him and he was involved in the setting up of three of their four scores. He also intercepted at least 3 passes or you could say they were kicked riight at him.  He did a lot of running in the first half (which Donnelly was happy to let him do) and looked very tired in the second and was replaced with about 10 minutes to go.  It was only then that I seen Donnelly in attack for Armagh.  I don't think he can expect a call from Joe tonight or anything but ffs I don't know what they're thinking playing him there.  We've had him playing an odd time at full forward and he isn't effective there either,he's at his best playing a defensive midfield role and if not that then put him in defence or at the very least CHF where he can steady up the Midifield.
Our brendan Byrne, I dont know if you know him or not corn, got a run out in the last few minutes too though he wasnt there long enough to make an impression. 
Title: Armagh Under 21 Final
Post by: Redhandfan on January 07, 2007, 10:00:50 PM
I went along to Ballycrummy yesterday to see the U-21 decider between Cross and Dromintee.  As a neutral, it was decent fare with Cross certainly deserving their victory.  It was a good hard-hitting game and, although Dromintee did have their moments and posed plenty of problems with their route one tactic of high ball into the full forward, there can be no doubt that Cross were the better team. 

I was very impressed with Crossmaglen corner forward Tony Kernan.  It was my first time seeing him in action and he was, in my opinion, their match-winner.  Hanratty at midfield seems like a fine player but, as his sending-off proved, he is a bit of a loose cannon.  And speaking of loose cannons, Cross goalkeeper Alan Hearty could easily have cost his side the game with some of his antics.  His cockiness could yet prove to be his downfall.  Cross' domination at midfield was key to their victory because, had the Dromintee full forward received a more plentiful supply of ball, he could have inflicted serious damage.

A couple of other observations....the referee (Barney Henry) was far too fussy at times and prevented this from being a really good game.....a section of the Crossmaglen support got quite mouthy towards the end by abusing both the referee and some of the Dromintee players.  The Dromintee crowd, in contrast, remained dignified even in defeat.

I believe Crossmaglen have completed the clean sweep in Armagh this year with minor, U-21 and senior success.  Their dominance at senior level might never end....is this a bad thing for Armagh football?
Title: Re: Armagh Under 21 Final
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 08, 2007, 09:34:10 AM
Quote from: Redhandfan on January 07, 2007, 10:00:50 PM
a section of the Crossmaglen support got quite mouthy towards the end by abusing both the referee and some of the Dromintee players.  The Dromintee crowd, in contrast, remained dignified even in defeat.

Thats a point well made. It's something that happens at every cross championship game and somthing i wasn't going to bring up because it makes you look like a bad loser. The personal abuse vented on some of our players from the crossmaglen "support" was again disgusting. it has to be remembered that these are only lads and for 30 & 40 year old man to be screaming these things at them over a game of football is disappointing.

This has reared its head after every single match we've encountered cross but at the weekend there were men in the club saying they won't be going back to watch cross play our club or any other. it is very difficult to stand and listen to young lads who are your neighbours and members of the same club on the receiving end of the worst kind of vitriol, all for having the temerity to take to the same field as cross. every decision is a crime against the crossmaglen race and every piece of decent play by an opposition player is met with calls for legs to be broken the next time, questioning of parenthood or some other personal "accusation".

I have the utmost respect for the (vast majority of) crossmaglen players, management and football supporters, and every club has its idiots who you stand away from at games but cross bring things to the bottom of the barrell.

no matter which side of the ground you stood saturday there was no escaping it and it takes a tremendous amount of restraint to not take the bait and get into the neanderthol mud slinging. i stood not 10 yards from one empty vessel on the side opposite the road who will expect the full support of our parish later in the summer but yet managed to scream repeatedly that various dromintee players were (may have missed some).... scumbags, tubs of lard, britlovers (what?), knackers & gypsies.

yeah, i'll be cheering for him. not.
Title: Re: Armagh Under 21 Final
Post by: man in black on January 08, 2007, 09:42:13 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 08, 2007, 09:34:10 AM
Quote from: Redhandfan on January 07, 2007, 10:00:50 PM
a section of the Crossmaglen support got quite mouthy towards the end by abusing both the referee and some of the Dromintee players.  The Dromintee crowd, in contrast, remained dignified even in defeat.

Thats a point well made. It's something that happens at every cross championship game and somthing i wasn't going to bring up because it makes you look like a bad loser. The personal abuse vented on some of our players from the crossmaglen "support" was again disgusting. it has to be remembered that these are only lads and for 30 & 40 year old man to be screaming these things at them over a game of football is disappointing.

This has reared its head after every single match we've encountered cross but at the weekend there were men in the club saying they won't be going back to watch cross play our club or any other. it is very difficult to stand and listen to young lads who are your neighbours and members of the same club on the receiving end of the worst kind of vitriol, all for having the temerity to take to the same field as cross. every decision is a crime against the crossmaglen race and every piece of decent play by an opposition player is met with calls for legs to be broken the next time, questioning of parenthood or some other personal "accusation".

I have the utmost respect for the (vast majority of) crossmaglen players, management and football supporters, and every club has its idiots who you stand away from at games but cross bring things to the bottom of the barrell.

no matter which side of the ground you stood saturday there was no escaping it and it takes a tremendous amount of restraint to not take the bait and get into the neanderthol mud slinging. i stood not 10 yards from one empty vessel on the side opposite the road who will expect the full support of our parish later in the summer but yet managed to scream repeatedly that various dromintee players were (may have missed some).... scumbags, tubs of lard, britlovers (what?), knackers & gypsies.

yeah, i'll be cheering for him. not.


britlovers? Sure didn't the brits pay them plenty of rent. >:(
Title: Idiots
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 08, 2007, 10:30:44 AM
Whoever these people are they have no place in the club.  As Aghdavoyle says every club has it's shower of morons and our own is no different.  I have been the subject of abuse down through the years and in fairness, it is water off a ducks back and I would say that I speak for most players in that regard.  The lads on the field in any game will generally get on with it, shake hands and forget about it.  I don't sit up losing sleep over the mentor from a club who told the man marking me, and I quote "break the big useless fcukers legs" when we were going for the ball.  It is not nice, is unacceptable but after the event is forgotten about.  Supporters have every right to be disgusted as generally this is being shouted in the vicinity of younger kids and that should not happen. 

All I can say about the people who shouted it is that they should not be associated with the club and I wish they were not. 

As for the game, I wasn't there as the drive might have been a wee bit :P I got the in depth analysis from the mudder yesterday and she basically echoed what has been said here.  Dromintee had their chances but Cross just seemed to have that wee bit extra.  A lot of that extra has to do with the confidence within the club and the tradition of Cross generally not losing finals.   

Looking at it now form the outside a few things occur to me.  Many club structures must be very weak once they get to senior level.  As has been observed by a few here, until recent years we have not been overly successful at underage.  Not blowing my trumpet but it wasn't until the underage team that I played on came around that we started to dominate.  I was blessed with playing on a superb underage team which was the genesis of the current dominance.  We were, however, no more dominant in our age groups than say, Pearse Ogs were.  We won the 1989 and the 1993 minors.  Ogs won 4-5 in a row at minors during the mid 90's.  The 1989 team had Califf, Colm O'Neill, Joe Fitz, Gary McShane, Frank Shields who went on to the senior squad and the rest of the senior sqaud apart from a 2-3 old heads was made of the 1993 team.  We did not have the continued success that the Ogs had and they fell apart.  The Harps had similar success and haven't made the breakthrough.  It is very difficult to put a reason on this.  While we may have greater pick than say t Dromintee, we do not have the same potenial numbers that the city clubs have or the Lurgan teams. 

Also the whole success breeds success is a bit of a cop out in my view.  It certainly breeds confidence but it doesn't breed ability and a will to stick at it.  It may be easier for us to keep kids interested, but in 1995 whenever Mullaghbawn beat us it would have been very easy for a lot of the younger ones to say well f**k this we haven't won since 1985 we'll never win and we could just go on the drink or head off to Australia or whatever.  We didn't.  We had just been humiliated on television.  Some of you may remember the documentary done with the Down team of 1994.  We were humiliated on national television and it would have been easy to hide.  We had no success to fall back on, we had no senior medals(apart from Jim and Jarlath McConville), we had a manager being ripped apart within the club because of the way he been looking after the team.  We didn't hide and got on with it.  We may have been lucky but we made our own luck instead of excuses and we reaped the rewards. 

Congratulations to all involved, I hope it helps build on the other successes.  We may not win 20 in a row but we could give it a good rattle all things being equal.

Man in Black, Aghdavoyle spoke of empty vessels, it seems they were not just at the u-21 game ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 08, 2007, 10:32:19 AM
Corn 02 i've been playing againt those lads for the last 10 years and they are very good footballers but i just think most of them fall short of County material with the exception of Aidan who has proved he can cut it at the top.

For the rest of you guys, how do we stop these Cross men, surley their dominance can't last much longer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: man in black on January 08, 2007, 10:34:55 AM
your non denial is well noted. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 08, 2007, 10:37:48 AM
They did not pay rent to the club.  Whatever they paid in compensation is none of you business and has no place on this thread.  If you have a comment on Armagh football please make it , if not f**k off!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: man in black on January 08, 2007, 10:43:22 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 08, 2007, 10:37:48 AM
They did not pay rent to the club.  Whatever they paid in compensation is none of you business and has no place on this thread.  If you have a comment on Armagh football please make it , if not f**k off!

compo, rent, call it what you want. yiz took it anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 08, 2007, 11:04:20 AM
Anyone got the Amragh's starting line-up from yesterdays game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ExiledGael on January 08, 2007, 11:42:52 AM
You are a truly sickening bastard MIB, clear off to f**k and leave people do discuss their GAA in peace
Title: Re: Armagh Team
Post by: Armagh Exile on January 08, 2007, 12:11:48 PM
Ben,
This is the Armagh team, substitutes and scorers in yesterdays game against St Mary's

Ciaran McKinney; Andy Mallon, Kieran Toner, Paudie McCreesh; JP Donnelly, Brendan Donaghy, Tony McClelland; Philip Loughran, Gareth Swift; Peadar Toal (0-3), Malachy Mackin (0-2), Martin Ferris (0-2); Stephen McDonnell (0-3), Martin O'Rourke, Stephan Forker.
Substitutes were Kevin O'Rourke for Peadar Toal and Neil McSherry for Stephan Forker.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on January 08, 2007, 12:31:48 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 06, 2007, 01:05:34 AM
ILLdecide you obviously have not seen much of them Dromintee boys then.

i've seen them play a fair few times and i doubt they would get a game for louth at the minute. (except aiden).
but anyway, its probably a load of crap anyway. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: man in black on January 08, 2007, 12:37:41 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on January 08, 2007, 11:42:52 AM
You are a truly sickening bastard MIB, clear off to f**k and leave people do discuss their GAA in peace

Sorry is it a sore subject?
ah bless
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 08, 2007, 01:06:58 PM
DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT LURGAN BLUE, THERE'S A HISTORY OF THAT CRAIC IN SOUTH ARMAGH. JOHN D WENT THAT WAY AND BACK AGAIN
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 08, 2007, 01:17:11 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 08, 2007, 01:06:58 PM
DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT LURGAN BLUE, THERE'S A HISTORY OF THAT CRAIC IN SOUTH ARMAGH. JOHN D WENT THAT WAY AND BACK AGAIN

Yeah, a real history of that happening-1 player in how many years? ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 08, 2007, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: man in black on January 08, 2007, 12:37:41 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on January 08, 2007, 11:42:52 AM
You are a truly sickening bastard MIB, clear off to f**k and leave people do discuss their GAA in peace

Sorry is it a sore subject?
ah bless

What are you even doing on this thread anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Team
Post by: BenDover on January 08, 2007, 01:49:39 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on January 08, 2007, 12:11:48 PM
Ben,
This is the Armagh team, substitutes and scorers in yesterdays game against St Mary's

Ciaran McKinney; Andy Mallon, Kieran Toner, Paudie McCreesh; JP Donnelly, Brendan Donaghy, Tony McClelland; Philip Loughran, Gareth Swift; Peadar Toal (0-3), Malachy Mackin (0-2), Martin Ferris (0-2); Stephen McDonnell (0-3), Martin O'Rourke, Stephan Forker.
Substitutes were Kevin O'Rourke for Peadar Toal and Neil McSherry for Stephan Forker.


Cheers Armagh Exile,

Think I read on the McKenna cup thread or previously on this thread that Peadar only came on as a sub in the last 10, but yet you have him in the first 15, how'd he fair out?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: man in black on January 08, 2007, 02:14:30 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on January 08, 2007, 01:18:37 PM
Quote from: man in black on January 08, 2007, 12:37:41 PM
Quote from: ExiledGael on January 08, 2007, 11:42:52 AM
You are a truly sickening bastard MIB, clear off to f**k and leave people do discuss their GAA in peace

Sorry is it a sore subject?
ah bless

What are you even doing on this thread anyway.


Contributing. And yourself?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 08, 2007, 02:36:09 PM
Irish News has Peader down as startin...came off with 10 minutes to go!

Big Joe thought he had a good 1st half...scoring 3points from play!

After all his negative publicity....IMO he is a good lad, hope he pushes on now, with Armagh needing to unearth a few forwards!!

He could be a class act!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 08, 2007, 04:03:19 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 08, 2007, 02:36:09 PM
Irish News has Peader down as startin...came off with 10 minutes to go!

Big Joe thought he had a good 1st half...scoring 3points from play!

After all his negative publicity....IMO he is a good lad, hope he pushes on now, with Armagh needing to unearth a few forwards!!

He could be a class act!

More than likely I prob misread the previous post.  ::)

A few games should do him no harm at least now he's got something to build on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on January 08, 2007, 04:47:18 PM
Toal's man was the best man on the field.  As far as I can see Toal is ok for the fancy shit (which was evidenced by that soccer sytle shit that he attempted that the end) and doesn't want any of the hard work.  His man was up and down the field all day and Toal was no where to be seen.  At that rate of going on he might be worth a try in the corner, otherwise I don't think he has anything to offer!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: two man tackle on January 08, 2007, 06:39:23 PM
armagh losers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 08, 2007, 07:51:28 PM
two man tackle again!  why are we losers then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: two man tackle on January 08, 2007, 07:54:34 PM
generally when you dont win, you lose - hence losers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 08, 2007, 07:55:24 PM
but we often win so would you elaborate on calling us losers.
Title: Re: Idiots
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on January 08, 2007, 08:12:30 PM
Brokencrossbar wrote

Quote
Looking at it now form the outside a few things occur to me.  Many club structures must be very weak once they get to senior level.  As has been observed by a few here, until recent years we have not been overly successful at underage.  Not blowing my trumpet but it wasn't until the underage team that I played on came around that we started to dominate.  I was blessed with playing on a superb underage team which was the genesis of the current dominance.  We were, however, no more dominant in our age groups than say, Pearse Ogs were.  We won the 1989 and the 1993 minors.  Ogs won 4-5 in a row at minors during the mid 90's.  The 1989 team had Califf, Colm O'Neill, Joe Fitz, Gary McShane, Frank Shields who went on to the senior squad and the rest of the senior sqaud apart from a 2-3 old heads was made of the 1993 team.  We did not have the continued success that the Ogs had and they fell apart.  The Harps had similar success and haven't made the breakthrough.  It is very difficult to put a reason on this.  While we may have greater pick than say t Dromintee, we do not have the same potenial numbers that the city clubs have or the Lurgan teams.
 

and

QuoteAlso the whole success breeds success is a bit of a cop out in my view.  It certainly breeds confidence but it doesn't breed ability and a will to stick at it.  It may be easier for us to keep kids interested, but in 1995 whenever Mullaghbawn beat us it would have been very easy for a lot of the younger ones to say well f**k this we haven't won since 1985 we'll never win and we could just go on the drink or head off to Australia or whatever.  We didn't.  We had just been humiliated on television.  Some of you may remember the documentary done with the Down team of 1994.  We were humiliated on national television and it would have been easy to hide.  We had no success to fall back on, we had no senior medals(apart from Jim and Jarlath McConville), we had a manager being ripped apart within the club because of the way he been looking after the team.  We didn't hide and got on with it.  We may have been lucky but we made our own luck instead of excuses and we reaped the rewards. We may not win 20 in a row but we could give it a good rattle all things being equal.

I wrote on the Harps thread, in discussion as to the difference between ourselves and Cross;

QuoteCross produce quality players alright, but if you look at their underage success, we are on at least a par with them, if not better, as are the Ogs. What Cross manage to do is keep all their good players on board. As an example, that Harps team playing yesterday should have been the team that won an Ulster Minor Club Championship, three years tomorrow. Yet in that short timespan, look how many - for one reason or another - did not feature yesterday? Harps, as an example, are not bringing through fully their underage talent, and as a consequence, any hope of the Seniors making the breakthrough will become an absolute pipe dream.

and

QuoteThere is also an element of 'success breeding success', and there appears to be a culture in Cross of looking up to their local heroes and trying to emulate them. Think about that culture and what it means, and compare that to our own Club as we enter 2007!

Enough said! As for last Saturday, I could genuinely write pages about the difference between Cross and ourselves. We gave Cross a good run for their money in a County Semi-final at the tail end of 2003, with a young team, half made up of minors and under 21s. The future looked great! As of the start of this year, it is likely that less than half of that team will be playing Senior football. In contrast, Cross have successfully moved on, changing their team (for positive reasons) and coming back totally reinvented. The Harps on the other hand have kept losing many of the underage prospects that we had.

I don't normally talk out of shop about what goes on in Committee meetings. However our inability to keep on board much of our underage talent is a real cause for concern in meetings, and recently a photo of our successful minor team of 2004 was produced which showed that over half of the thirty in the picture no longer play football with the Harps. Meanwhile in Cross there is yet more success which gives more and more underage players the incentive to get to the Senior team - what better than healthy competition to keep bringing out the best in your resources?!

I can see the Harps' problems mirrored throughout the County. What is required in our Club is a sea change in the culture of our young players. Given that, and what I saw in Mullabrack last Saturday, I could see Cross doing twenty in a row at Senior level - and I'm not exaggerating!   :-[  

We both appear to agree that your underage success is not the reason for the extent of your dominance at Senior level. Obviously having exceptional footballers is a help! I would have to take issue though with 'success breeding success'. I feel the very fact that we agree that Cross's success is not based on exceptional underage exploits means there is another reason.

Success breeding success is an absolute reality, though whether it is a cop out or not, for a variety of people is another matter. Success breeding success works on several levels and of course has an equal an opposite effect elsewhere, i.e. failure breeding failure - two examples - the two Pearse Og games in Keady versus Cross when Ogs had the game in their hands and could not finish it off - Rangers had the self belief built up by their great success, the Ogs the opposite, lack of self belief.

The second example - last week's Under 21 semi-final - Cross fielded their best possible team -  the Harps did not. Cross to my mind are the epitome of success breeding success. They are now maximising their resources - the whole thing is self fulfilling - the more success the greater the ambition amongst young players, the greater the competition for places, the greater the pick etc etc. And of course, as a consequence, the average attitude of a young Rangers players is far ahead of the attitude of a young Harps player. It pains me to say it, but that's a fact.  

The reality is BC1, that you have enjoyed such success at Senior Level, over such a period of time, that lack of success has become a totally foreign concept!



 





Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 09, 2007, 09:17:56 AM
Quote from: two man tackle on January 08, 2007, 07:54:34 PM
generally when you dont win, you lose - hence losers


It seems as if this two man tackle character is just a wind up merchant with a grudge against every1 ranginf from Armagh to the Gaa Presidents. Too much time on his hands to be stirring the melting pot I think  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 09, 2007, 09:56:52 AM
Absolutely Pint a defender if ever i seen one, weird decision.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 09, 2007, 10:09:20 AM
Rufus, what you say is right to an extent but if you follow your logic then Harps and Pearse Ogs really should be transferring to the bigger stage but they have failed.  They have been the dominant underage teams in the last 10 years but have not brought this successfully to senior level.  Sure enough Cross can keep the young players interested because of the success of the senior teams but that was not the case when me made the breakthrough.  We did not have dominanace at underage, Clans were the main team at that stage. 

If you look at the players that the Ogs and harps teams had on the Minor teams, Ronan Clarke, McKinney,Mallon,Swift,Quigley,Toal, Vernon and many more on reputation alone they would be as good, if not better than most of us at that age.  They had success at schools and club level so the were used to winning.  At a time when Armagh football is at it's strongest (and I don't care what anyone says to the contrary, but club football in Armagh has got more good players playing now than when I started) teams seem to be unable to break the run.  To my view, the same old lines come out every year with no change to the way things are being done. 

I know it is easy for me to say all this from my "foreign" homestead now, and I am sure some of my old team mates would want me to stay quiet as I know some are definitely lurkers of the site, but Cross have won 3 Armagh seniors, 2 Minors and 1 u-21 in my time on the board as a poster(shit I am here over 3 years now!). Each year the press and the people in this board have ran off the same old reasons why.  It is maybe time that people looked at what is really happening, take the Cross model,and put it in place.  People I would suggest have tried and failed, so maybe the magic ingredient is the difference :P and it will stay secret!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 09, 2007, 10:15:55 AM
steroids???


Cross not being dominant at underage is quite irrelevant. Players need to keep developing right up to senior level. Cross have been lucky that certain players have devloped very well when placed on the senior panel. Look at the Cross Senior team this year, there are a number of players who have tranformed into great senior players and who never would of stood out at underage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 09, 2007, 10:43:41 AM
Border Fox, are you in any way connected with cross from a few years ago?

What you say about the system is right.  It is nothing spectacular but it has be developed over the years and I firmly believe it is the difference.  I wouldn't say it is total football a la Ajax in that all the children from a young age are taught how to play a certain way but it is not far off it.

You are also right about getting the best out of players.  Another example is wee Fish Aherne.   He was always a skillful enough player but never outstanding.  There is talk of him in Armagh circles now.

And don't even try to start that old chestnut of taking players, as you know it is a non starter ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 09, 2007, 11:05:30 AM
Rufus i know where your coming from and i think the main problem is the big town or City in your case, the South Armagh lads don't have the same distractions that we have. From the lads that i played minor with I'm the only one still playing (just about), if you go to a bar in Lurgan the amount of guys sitting watching live soccer with their pints in their hand who were unbelievable Gaelic footballers is scary. South Armagh don't have the soccer in the scale that we have to compete with and as i mentioned half of the young lads ending up alcholics.

Another big issue you mentioned was the size of Lurgan, but you didn't mention the many clubs we have 1. Clan Na Gael 2. Clan Eirena 3. St Paul's 4. St Peters 5. Eire Og 6.Wolfe Tones 7. Sarsfields and there are even more soccer clubs, in south Armagh their main sport is GAA (and rightly so) and they are a more closely knit community not like the main big towns or cities
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 09, 2007, 11:24:52 AM
It's difficult for us to compete in this conversation about ogs, harps and cross and transforming underage success into senior as we've never won a thing at underage. even s armagh leagues are beyond our realms of competitive possibility.

I'm not sure how relevent it is to the discussion, but dromintee's task is to try to garner the 1 or 2 players from each minor team who are fit for b football the following year and keep them interested. every so often we then try to make a senior player out of these guys.

our underage teams don't have the numbers and certainly not the quality to be top 4 in the s armagh leagues. for example, our minors operated with about 18 players this year, 6 of whom were u16. maybe 2 of these minors will be good enough to train with the senior / b panel next season.

This may leave us open to ridicule but thats what we have and we're happy enough. we've been lucky in the last 5 years to have brought through some real quality players like the o'neills, mick o'rourke and dyas and that has allowed us to compete at senior championship level. to be honest, we don't see any more gems on the horizon and as players disappear out the top, they won't be replaced from now on.

with my freud hat on, our senior players have obviously won nothing at any stage of their development with the club and i'm sure that inhibits their mental approach when playing cross. only the likes of the o'rourkes, eddie martin,etc who have been exposed to higher levels of football play with total competitiveness against cross.  more usually, our players have grown up losing by 15 or 20 points to the likes of cross, mullaghbawn & killeavy. interestingly, we always struggle against s armagh teams in the championship but have no inhibiting respect for the likes of clans, ogs or harps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on January 09, 2007, 11:25:35 AM
QuoteWe had Donal McKenna over us last year - an outrageous man!
McKenna is a very shrewd manager.  Was Big Joe's right-hand man when Crossmaglen won 3 All-Irelands.
Who is he with this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Horatio Kane on January 09, 2007, 11:27:17 AM
Have to agree with Rufus. The advantage Cross have is that any young talent coming through can be eased onto the senior set up, eg the young Kernans coming through to play alongside "old heads" like Oisin, Francie, the Macs, whereas the Harps youth have no players to look up to like that.

Imagine the current crop of Harps youth joining a set up that included "old heads" like John Rath, Adrian Moore, Dom Clarke, the Twins, John Toner, the McCoys etc.......i think it's all about timing, but hats off to cross....they have set the bar very high and it's going to take a tremendous effort to compete with them.

Here's hoping.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on January 09, 2007, 12:36:42 PM
Im not sure about this argument that young players and success at underage level doesnt make a difference.  About 10 or 12 years ago we had for the only time my brother (whos much older than me) can remember our own Under 14 team (as opposed to being part of the amalgamted St Johns Under 14-s) and we were very successfull in winning an under 14 league.  That couple with appearences from St Johns in under 16 and minior finals in the last 5/6 years (different age group to the earlier under 14's) has left us with a crop of very good (by our divisions standards) young players coming through who know how to win.  It is probably no coincedance therefore that these good young players coming through such as Shane Smyth and John McCormack and Micheal McQuade etc have resulted in us contesting two junior championship finals (winning one) and winning two promotions in the last three or four years.

Not sure how this relates at the top level of Armagh football but lower down the leagues it appears that youth success can be very helpful for senior success down the line.

Another point I remeber hearing an RTE commentator in 1998 after Galway won the All Ireland saying that good minor teams usually form the backbone for good senior teams when the players on it reach 27 or 28 i.e. 9/10 years after minor level.  Armagh won minor Ulster titles in 1992 and 1994 and have had remarkable success at senior level 10 years later, again this may just be coincedance
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 09, 2007, 02:10:33 PM
Aghdavoyle maybe if you showed a bit more respect to the likes of the Clanns, Harps and the OGs you might win somthing for once ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 09, 2007, 02:12:04 PM
Aghdavolye

I think you being slightly harsh. Having played along side those boys at underage level I can assure you that there a few more who are capable of making an impact on our senior team. The Rocks, Colum McGuiness and Anthony Fearon have already alot of senior action under the belts and the likes of John Molloy, Thomas White and Ruari Murphy will be doing similar. Getting beat by twenty points rarely happened.

I do understand with your judgement that there are no stars coming through but do not be too quick to judge.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 09, 2007, 02:18:20 PM
Quoteour players have grown up losing by 15 or 20 points to the likes of cross, mullaghbawn & killeavy. interestingly, we always struggle against s armagh teams in the championship but have no inhibiting respect for the likes of clans, ogs or harps.

In fairness Aghdavoyle, I have no memory of beating Dromintee by 15-20 points, in fact the opposite happened a few years back.  It provided motivation for at least 2 championship wins :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 09, 2007, 02:19:41 PM
Illdecide... the point was simply that we rarely have any  trouble with any of those teams in the championship and therefore i can't see any reason why we should adjust our players' mindsets towards them.

Corn, i appreciate what you are saying and certainly that particular age group contributed the most players as a group to the senior ranks of any minor team. that said, i don't thin any of those that you name will play senior championship football this year?

bc... i'm referring to underage games as our players come up through the ranks, not senior games in which, hopefully, we are competitive.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 09, 2007, 02:27:02 PM
I know you are Aghdavoyle, hence the wee smiley. 

In fairness, Dromintee were one of the harder teams I played against at underage.  Players like Alan Johnston, Morgan, Leo McGee and Toal would have been great senior players if they were there, (even if Mickey and Alan were like roadies for Bon Jovi ;D).  We played Dromintee and Mullaghbawn probably more in underage finals than anyone else. 

I know maybe the younger lads like Shannon and younger may not have had the same quality in numbers but for a good few years there were quite a few players coming through.

The reality is that some clubs have more resources than others, but some don't make the most of them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 09, 2007, 02:35:27 PM
John Morrisson quoted TODAY.... Armagh Harps have had 44 transfers from the club over the past 3 years!!! any other club had such a devastating loss?? (BTW, dont know where he gets his stats...) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 09, 2007, 02:46:50 PM
Morrisson may be a bit "wild" but he's never far wrong!!! from what i can remember most of those were youths who had finished minor but weren't getting football at senior level so they went to small rural clubs, i.e Grange & Mullabrack where they would get a game....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on January 09, 2007, 03:33:50 PM
Aghdavoyle

"the point was simply that we rarely have any  trouble with any of those teams in the championship "

Sweeping statement from a team only in senior football for a decade or so and with a hint of arrogance which i wouldnt associate with the Dromintee lads that i would know  ;).

My last senior championship match was against Dromintee not too long ago (5/6yrs) in Cross and i think we won with a few points to spare

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 09, 2007, 03:37:52 PM
Quote from: Candyman on January 09, 2007, 02:46:50 PM
Morrisson may be a bit "wild" but he's never far wrong!!! from what i can remember most of those were youths who had finished minor but weren't getting football at senior level so they went to small rural clubs, i.e Grange & Mullabrack where they would get a game....

Who are Mullabrack I thought this was the Harps third team  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 09, 2007, 03:41:15 PM
bow wow benny... They are known as the Harps C team (thirds would be associated with hockey/cricket/rugby) :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 09, 2007, 04:16:13 PM

Apologies umgola... no disrespect was intended. the point i was making was simply that our lads don't seem to have any intimidation issues with the clubs who are equally as successful as cross at underage but who the don't come onto ur radar at underage. of course our esteemed ballycrummy friends beat us on our last meeting, in 2001 i think?

congrats on you new pitch by the way amd the fantastic order it was in at the weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 09, 2007, 04:20:43 PM
Quote from: Candyman on January 09, 2007, 03:41:15 PM
bow wow benny... They are known as the Harps C team (thirds would be associated with hockey/cricket/rugby) :P

Didn't want to be disrespectful to all those ex-Harps players by saying they were only good enough for the C team, Thirds has a bit of a ring to it  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 09, 2007, 04:49:37 PM
a lot of them are more than good enough to play senior football.... simply didin't have the commitment or drive to compete for places!!! E.O.S ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Countdown on January 09, 2007, 09:59:55 PM
Quote from: Candyman on January 09, 2007, 04:49:37 PM
a lot of them are more than good enough to play senior football.... simply didin't have the commitment or drive to compete for places!!! E.O.S ;)

A certain bottle of tonic wine have any thing to do with it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on January 09, 2007, 10:13:45 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 09, 2007, 10:09:20 AM
Rufus, what you say is right to an extent but if you follow your logic then Harps and Pearse Ogs really should be transferring to the bigger stage but they have failed.  They have been the dominant underage teams in the last 10 years but have not brought this successfully to senior level. 

Nail on the head BC - that's exactly what is happening.

QuoteSure enough Cross can keep the young players interested because of the success of the senior teams but that was not the case when me made the breakthrough.  We did not have dominanace at underage, Clans were the main team at that stage. If you look at the players that the Ogs and harps teams had on the Minor teams, Ronan Clarke, McKinney,Mallon,Swift,Quigley,Toal, Vernon and many more on reputation alone they would be as good, if not better than most of us at that age.  They had success at schools and club level so the were used to winning.  At a time when Armagh football is at it's strongest (and I don't care what anyone says to the contrary, but club football in Armagh has got more good players playing now than when I started) teams seem to be unable to break the run.  To my view, the same old lines come out every year with no change to the way things are being done. I know it is easy for me to say all this from my "foreign" homestead now, and I am sure some of my old team mates would want me to stay quiet as I know some are definitely lurkers of the site, but Cross have won 3 Armagh seniors, 2 Minors and 1 u-21 in my time on the board as a poster(shit I am here over 3 years now!). Each year the press and the people in this board have ran off the same old reasons why.  It is maybe time that people looked at what is really happening, take the Cross model,and put it in place.  People I would suggest have tried and failed, so maybe the magic ingredient is the difference :P and it will stay secret!

Clans (and Mullabawn) were the main team teams whens Cross broke through, but their dominance was nothing compared to the dominance that Cross have had. Cross's dominance now stretches eleven years and counting and is nearly ingrained into the psyche of the club scene.

As for models, forget it. You can put all the scientific research into perfecting the model set up in a club - if the players don't have the commitment or right attitude, then you're pissing into the wind.

Transfer out anyone?  >:(

Final Countdown

QuoteA certain bottle of tonic wine have any thing to do with it?

Nothing whatsoever to do with it - that bottle is merely a symptom of the underlying problem.




Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 10, 2007, 09:22:53 AM
rufus your right (and you know you are :P) The "tonic wine" is the easy way out!! Every club has drinkers among the ranks, its knowing when to hit it on the head and have the attitude to stay off it??? Most of the ex-harps players to my knowledge are still playing (although in Div4) where its easier to get a game and less effort is required!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 10, 2007, 10:35:44 AM

Lads, i think you are trying too hard to find a magical reason why cross are so far ahead at the minute. undoubtedly, the confidence which comes from winning permeates through a club but that is a flimsy front when a ball is  thrown in. the facts are that cross have more quality footballers at their disposal than any other club in the county at every grade.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 10, 2007, 10:41:51 AM
100% correct Uladh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 10, 2007, 10:47:08 AM
No one is disputing that Uladh!! The statement was made however that at underage level, The Harps & Ogs had some better teams than cross and at that stage cross didn't have many more good players at their disposal!! The fact is these playes stuck at it and are now very successfull senior players, but some of the city slickers didn't continue and haven't come through the ranks....
(Although you are correct in saying that Cross NOW have many more good players than most other teams...)
Title: Uladh
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2007, 10:50:20 AM
You see that is just too simplistic.  There has to be some reason why we have better footballers.  We have a larger pick than some but a smaller pick than others.  We didn't have better footballers than the Harps or Ogs at minor level for at least 5-6 years so how come we now have the same players doing better at senior level?

Ithink the biggest thing about Cross at senior level is that while we have some excellent footballers, we have no passengers.  At most clubs there will always be at least 2 players you feel you could expose.  from what I can see that is not the case with Cross at the minute.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 10, 2007, 10:59:27 AM

who have you got a smaller pick than bc?

i don't think you have better footballers, but i believe you have more grade a footballers.

for example, cross have about 8 grade a footballers and 7 grade b.

dromintee have maybe 6 grade a, 6 grade b and 3 grade c.

harps have maybe 4 grade a, 6 grade b and 5 grade c.

the grading thing is obviously off the top of my head but you get the gist.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 10, 2007, 01:25:50 PM
As i said earlier the Big towns and City's (Armagh) do have more wasters and distractions than the South Armagh clubs, but the simple fact of the matter is that Cross have an exceptional bunch of players who came Thru at the one time and as a few retire or quit its easy to replace 1 or 2 on your team when you still have the nucleus of your team still performing. This type of thing comes round every so often especially to the likes of the big four (Cross, Clans, Harps, Ogs), i do believe that when 3 or 4 of the old hands quit that Cross will struggle to replace them i know they have very good young players coming Thru but they will not be as good as whats there now.

As for our world beaters Drumintee, God help us if they ever win a championship (which i can't see happening, when they see the black & amber they shite themselves) because he slags teams who have more championships between them than they have players. Whats that all about :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 10, 2007, 03:01:33 PM
Regarding the Harps, it's no co-incidence that the last time we were winning championships we had a team of nasty hoors, off course allied with class players with a good attitude.  Recent harps teams have been far too nice for their own good.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on January 10, 2007, 03:08:53 PM
Has the county u21 panel been selected yet or are they still trialing?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 10, 2007, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on January 10, 2007, 03:08:53 PM
Has the county u21 panel been selected yet or are they still trialing?



trials are still ongoing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 10, 2007, 04:53:47 PM


I'll decide... who's slagging "the big four"? it's funny that i don't actually remember any of the big 4 winniing a championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on January 10, 2007, 04:59:56 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 10, 2007, 04:53:47 PM


I'll decide... who's slagging "the big four"? it's funny that i don't actually remember any of the big 4 winniing a championship.

you must be very young then
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 10, 2007, 06:46:16 PM
Quote from: Uladh on January 10, 2007, 10:59:27 AM

who have you got a smaller pick than bc?

i don't think you have better footballers, but i believe you have more grade a footballers.

for example, cross have about 8 grade a footballers and 7 grade b.

dromintee have maybe 6 grade a, 6 grade b and 3 grade c.

harps have maybe 4 grade a, 6 grade b and 5 grade c.

the grading thing is obviously off the top of my head but you get the gist.
At last some sense! (You're still a grumpy bollocks though). 
Cross are not magical the reason why they are dominating is down to two things. One, a massive pick (in terms of GAA heads) and bigger than any other club in armagh. Two,  there's nothing else to do but play football.  It's very simple.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Horatio Kane on January 10, 2007, 07:47:44 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 10, 2007, 03:01:33 PM
Regarding the Harps, it's no co-incidence that the last time we were winning championships we had a team of nasty hoors, off course allied with class players with a good attitude.  Recent harps teams have been far too nice for their own good.

I disagree benny...the biggest thing they had was commitment,pride in the jersey, plus respect for each other and management (even when wrong).
That was a sound basis on which to build a team.

The current squad has a considerable number who have NONE of the above.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on January 10, 2007, 07:55:14 PM
The potential pick is not so far out of line, there is an average of 1600 people or so per club in Armagh, Cross have perhaps 2000? The Armagh city clubs have more and and the likes of Keady as many. The question of what else there is to do may be more important as the GAA in Upper Creggan gets the full use of that pick without even road bowls to compete. Other comments on this thread suggest that other clubs with big potential populations are getting the underage players, but are not getting a strong senior team from this. Cross' is just a size where there is the basis of a good team, yet everyone still knows everyone else and there is a close identification with the club. Its a bit like the intercounty scene, Kerry have the tradition and the organisation, some lack of alternatives and the expectation of success. This continues to bring them the players that keep the success going. However a county with a big pick like Cork or Dublin should win some and a well organised county with a smaller pick like Offaly or Armagh will make the breakthrough from time to time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 10, 2007, 08:01:16 PM
QuoteThe potential pick is not so far out of line, there is an average of 1600 people or so per club in Armagh, Cross have perhaps 2000?
I doubt those figures are a bit dodgy armaghnicac.

EDIT
Amazing what you can find on google!
According to 2001 census Cross had a population of 1,459 and I assume that's not including the surrounding area.  Now most of Creggan is Cross terrority, it has a population of 246 people. 

An average of 1600 per club seems high too. 
According to 2001 census...
Silverbridge has a population of 165
Cullyhanna - 306
Cullaville - 276
Mullaghbane - 402
Joneborough - 273  (Near forgot about the Dromintee whores)
Again, I'd imagine that includes only the villages themselves and not the surrounding areas but it shows the difference.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 10, 2007, 09:56:10 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 10, 2007, 08:01:16 PM
Cullaville - 276


And how many live in Culloville?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 10, 2007, 10:00:44 PM
Shut up that must be what the brits call it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 10, 2007, 11:22:25 PM
QuoteCross had a population of 1,459
That doesnt affect the cross team does it? ;) ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 10, 2007, 11:26:46 PM
Pint, as far as I know, the village actually straddles the border. Its called Cullaville north of the border, and Culloville south of the border.

Maybe trueblue can confirm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 10, 2007, 11:31:21 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 10, 2007, 11:26:46 PM
Pint, as far as I know, the village actually straddles the border. Its called Cullaville north of the border, and Culloville south of the border.

Maybe trueblue can confirm.
No it doesn't straddle the border, you've to go a good bit out of it to cross the border.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on January 10, 2007, 11:33:23 PM
Pint, the 1600 figure was a very rough division of the nationalist population of Armagh divided by the number of clubs, I wasn't suggesting that other neighbouring clubs to Cross had this population.

The NI census has EDs and wards, I haven't yet found a map of the EDs, but the ward called Crossmaglen comprises most of the Rangers catchment and all of Cullaville. This happy district has 2918, I suppose Cullaville can claim a 1000 of those.

http://search2.nics.gov.uk/highlighter/highlighter?qt=crossmaglen&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nisranew.nisra.gov.uk%2Fcensus%2FGeography%2Fmaps%2Fnewrymourne%2Fcrossmaglen.htm

Their Creggan ward has 2631, I expect some of these think of themselves as Bridge people, Cullyhanna fans and some as Rangers supporters.
http://search2.nics.gov.uk/highlighter/highlighter?qt=creggan+ward&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nisranew.nisra.gov.uk%2Fcensus%2FGeography%2Fmaps%2Fnewrymourne%2Fcreggan.htm


If you had a map of EDs (or list of townlands) you could work out the club catchment areas pretty exactly.

Culloville, Co Monaghan  starts 100m from the Cullaville Co Armagh stadium.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 11, 2007, 08:16:34 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 10, 2007, 08:01:16 PM
QuoteThe potential pick is not so far out of line, there is an average of 1600 people or so per club in Armagh, Cross have perhaps 2000?
I doubt those figures are a bit dodgy armaghnicac.

EDIT
Amazing what you can find on google!
According to 2001 census Cross had a population of 1,459 and I assume that's not including the surrounding area.  Now most of Creggan is Cross terrority, it has a population of 246 people. 

An average of 1600 per club seems high too. 
According to 2001 census...
Silverbridge has a population of 165
Cullyhanna - 306
Cullaville - 276
Mullaghbane - 402
Joneborough - 273  (Near forgot about the Dromintee whores)
Again, I'd imagine that includes only the villages themselves and not the surrounding areas but it shows the difference.





The population has increased an awful lot since 2001.Seems these figures are very low.
Good to see the love is still there for Dromintee :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 11, 2007, 09:05:07 AM
its called culloville north of the border and cullaville south of the border. were the feck are these figures coming from about the number of people living in culloville? unless there is 100 of the chinese ones that work in the restaurant living somewhere i doubt ther is that many in our village :D :D.

there is absolutely no way culloville has a bigger pick than siolverbridge. sure doesnt cross steal 3 or 4 of our players every year anyway  ;) ::)

rhe cuaville on the south of the border starts as u go on down past the football field and unless these figures are included those who live south of the border then the figures are definitly wrong
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: forkinknife on January 11, 2007, 09:53:58 AM
So did Cross take money from the brits or not? I find that a fascinating story. I was reading about the man who was 105 and didn't take any money off the free-state government. I wonder if Crossmaglen could learn from him!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 11, 2007, 10:04:57 AM
Ah FFS knifeinfork - you were yapping the other day about people putting up useless posts.Catch a grip of yourself and crawl under the stone you came from
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 11, 2007, 10:32:14 AM
malaysians,chinese japanese thai ya know wat i mean the point im making is the same there must be a horde of the whores somewhere up the back of maughans  :D :D

if there is that many then very few of them play football. we had 21 players available for the play off final and at full strength we wouldnt have any more than 25 lads capable of playing in the team without unduly weakening it

some of those other teams like cross silverbridge dromintee etc have a far bigger catchment area. for example the bridge have their wee village plus glasdrmmand and that whole surrounding area and them and cross have the area stretching from cross out to the bridge ie creggan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 11, 2007, 11:37:41 AM
If there was a young lad living between Croos/Bridge, Cross/Cullyhanna or Cross/Culloville it is more likely that his parents would push for him to join Cross, simply because of the success that they have encountered in recent years.
Dont get me wrong plenty of families have history with other clubs and will stay loyal but any family with kids that have no real allegiance would surely plump for Cross.
Perhaps another reason for the larger pick
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 11, 2007, 12:31:23 PM
I'd say it depends on who his Dad played for.

And to a lessor extent who his mates play for, who hist mammy played for etc etc etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 11, 2007, 12:31:45 PM
no word of big colm coming out that ive heard anyway. sure he wouldnt get his place if he did  ;D ;D.

Quote from: full back on January 11, 2007, 11:37:41 AM
If there was a young lad living between Croos/Bridge, Cross/Cullyhanna or Cross/Culloville it is more likely that his parents would push for him to join Cross, simply because of the success that they have encountered in recent years.
Dont get me wrong plenty of families have history with other clubs and will stay loyal but any family with kids that have no real allegiance would surely plump for Cross.
Perhaps another reason for the larger pick
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wat seems to be happening with some younger ones whos fathers played for culloville is that they are living in cross now and even though they played for culloville themselves their children are opting to play for cross. this is proving to be a big problem for us because we are losing out on good young players regularly.

also a lot of cross ones go to the local school in clonalig and then go to secondary school in cross and end up making the switch to join cross because most of their friends are from cross. it is definitly hampering us a lot with not hat many young lads coming through for the future
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 11, 2007, 01:00:08 PM
yeah leos and scout mc keowns are both playing for cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 11, 2007, 06:32:58 PM
trueblue
Quoteits called culloville north of the border and cullaville south of the border. were the feck are these figures coming from about the number of people living in culloville? unless there is 100 of the chinese ones that work in the restaurant living somewhere i doubt ther is that many in our village Cheesy Cheesy.

there is absolutely no way culloville has a bigger pick than siolverbridge. sure doesnt cross steal 3 or 4 of our players every year anyway  Wink Roll Eyes

rhe cuaville on the south of the border starts as u go on down past the football field and unless these figures are included those who live south of the border then the figures are definitly wrong
Did you read my post at all? The figures are coming from the census done in 2001, the UK census of the south armagh village called cullaville.  I think we can all assume what cullaville they're talking about.  They didnt make them up, maybe it includes some of the surrounding areas but are you trying to say your club has a catchment area of less than 275? How members do yous have?
Anyway, my post was not an attempt to show the exact catchment area of clubs but just to compare the difference between Cross and some of the other south armagh clubs in terms of pick.

Quote
some of those other teams like cross silverbridge dromintee etc have a far bigger catchment area. for example the bridge have their wee village plus glasdrmmand and that whole surrounding area and them and cross have the area stretching from cross out to the bridge ie creggan
Nope, you didn't read my post.  I said Cross have about 99% of creggan and they certainly have the Newry road probably to about a half a mile from forde's cross.  They've also got out the monug road, about 4 mile of it right out into clarnagh (sp?) and eat away at Bridge terrority of cornongh(sp?) and coolderry. 

It's hard to say what the Bridge pick would be, we're probably the most scattered of all the clubs. We've Glassdrummond and Tullydonnell but both would be smaller than silverbridge, all three combined would probably have a similar population to creggan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 11, 2007, 10:26:23 PM
Dromintee whores? Ah come off it Pint have I not worked you round yet?  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 11, 2007, 10:42:23 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 11, 2007, 10:26:23 PM
Dromintee whores? Ah come off it Pint have I not worked you round yet?  :)
I could have called yous worse!

Fergal and Noel Reel are the new Bridge managers  ;D

I don't suppose anyone has any details on the suspensions St. Pats got the other night, I hear about 10 of them got between 3 and 6 months, Casey, the manager got 4, Mackin 3 and a McKeever got 6 (though I don't know if that's Ciaran or not). I hear it doesn't affect the county team???  As far as I know they're free to play in the championship next year, what a joke! Should have got far more!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 11, 2007, 10:46:16 PM
No Club and County Suspensions are seperate
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on January 12, 2007, 01:19:32 PM
rumour has it that the armagh match has now been fixed for davitt park instead of cross on sunday. any truth?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on January 12, 2007, 02:13:53 PM
RTE are saying the game is in davitt.
Title: Change of Venue Confirmation
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 12, 2007, 02:30:28 PM
Quotehttp://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/6256039.stm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 12, 2007, 03:25:59 PM
Why that?
I no cross is bad but not that bad,
Also dunno if this has been mentione before, but Armagh v Louth in National League is down for a Saturday night at 7.30pm, where is it being played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 13, 2007, 09:22:07 AM
Anyone know if theres truth to the rumour that J.P Donnelly has crossed enemy lines and made the switch to the ogs!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 13, 2007, 09:25:36 AM
i heard something along those lines.  I dunno if there's any truth in it though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 13, 2007, 01:11:55 PM
I've heard this morning that the transfer is signed n sealed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 13, 2007, 01:17:36 PM
Quote from: BenDover on January 13, 2007, 01:11:55 PM
I've heard this morning that the transfer is signed n sealed
:o What was the reason for that?
It's a bit low.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling (F.A.O Ben Dover)
Post by: Candyman on January 13, 2007, 01:42:55 PM
Whoever mentioned to you that the transfer is signed and sealed is full of SH*T! How can a transfer be signed and sealed without the approval of the players previous club, and also the player must then stand in front of the committe and explain his reasons for leaving...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on January 13, 2007, 02:11:18 PM
I Heard it has to be signed by Harps and they know the reason!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 13, 2007, 02:18:24 PM
Harps dont have to sign anything they dont want to, but why would they not anyway?? any player who doesn't want to be with the club isn't worth holding onto anyway.... and what is this so-called reason for his departure???????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 13, 2007, 02:43:51 PM
Well I'm only saying what was told to me! Either way it looks like JP will be lining out in the green and gold next yr, though the number of games he's plays is anyone's guess
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 13, 2007, 02:55:11 PM
The facts are: Jp told Harpo first knowing it would be round the town in a matter of hours; it has only ever been mentioned in pub talk; Harps (to my knowledge) haven't signed any transfer request?

Can anyone give a reason for his departure.... ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 13, 2007, 04:27:39 PM
just heard that JP has signed for the "pigs" today :P
Although as i've already stated I find that hard to believe so soon.... (but who knows)
AND STILL NO1 HAS GIVEN A REASON FOR JP'S REPORTED DEPARTURE???
The response I'm getting from certain people is that JP was mis-treated by the Harps in some way....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 13, 2007, 04:49:36 PM
Quote from: Candyman on January 13, 2007, 04:27:39 PM
just heard that JP has signed for the "pigs" today :P
Although as i've already stated I find that hard to believe so soon.... (but who knows)
AND STILL NO1 HAS GIVEN A REASON FOR JP'S REPORTED DEPARTURE???
The response I'm getting from certain people is that JP was mis-treated by the Harps in some way....

The penny finally drops as for a reason why he left the Harps well maybe some of our more esteemed Harps posters have an explanation. But good news for the Ogs anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 13, 2007, 04:57:46 PM
FFS would someone just spit out the reason why he left. 
I'm getting it hard to imagine what would be so bad that would justify him moving to the local rivals.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Horatio Kane on January 13, 2007, 07:30:36 PM
Typical pub talk. No transfers from Harps to report.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lawnseed 2 on January 13, 2007, 07:35:28 PM
are the harps and the ogs not in the same parish to the best of my knowledge he doesnt have to explain his reason for leaving to anyone. according to the rules he can seek to transfer to another club without any problem once the two clubs share the same parochial boundry and theres not a damn thing the harps can do about it unless they build a chaple
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lawnseed 2 on January 13, 2007, 07:49:47 PM
 :D good news for all armagh clubs especially the small ones i read in gaelic life the peader murry county treasurer has announced the county team funding will no longer be a burden on clubs this is fantistic news as the policy of hitting all clubs for the same amount of money regardless of size or ability to pay was crippling many clubs all over the county. i have from the beginning opposed this facist uncaring policy and am glad it has been binned as a member of a small club it was getting to the stage that we hated going to our own county board for fear of being boned for money all the time, i dont know what fundraising schemes they have thought up to replace this madness any one heard anything?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on January 13, 2007, 08:26:36 PM
Quote from: lawnseed 2 on January 13, 2007, 07:49:47 PM
:D good news for all armagh clubs especially the small ones i read in gaelic life the peader murry county treasurer has announced the county team funding will no longer be a burden on clubs this is fantistic news as the policy of hitting all clubs for the same amount of money regardless of size or ability to pay was crippling many clubs all over the county. i have from the beginning opposed this facist uncaring policy and am glad it has been binned as a member of a small club it was getting to the stage that we hated going to our own county board for fear of being boned for money all the time, i dont know what fundraising schemes they have thought up to replace this madness any one heard anything?

It ain't just the small Clubs believe me - the bigger Clubs find it tough as well. I can't believe that this method of collecting loot has been dropped unless there is something else afoot!   :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 14, 2007, 10:29:20 AM
With Rufus here, they have some scheme coming up, Armagh County Board are never going to turn down money
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on January 14, 2007, 10:47:34 AM
Quotegood news for all armagh clubs especially the small ones i read in gaelic life the peader murry county treasurer has announced the county team funding will no longer be a burden on clubs this is fantistic news as the policy of hitting all clubs for the same amount of money regardless of size or ability to pay was crippling many clubs all over the county. i have from the beginning opposed this facist uncaring policy and am glad it has been binned as a member of a small club it was getting to the stage that we hated going to our own county board for fear of being boned for money all the time, i dont know what fundraising schemes they have thought up to replace this madness any one heard anything?

My reading of the situation is that the County Treasurer told the delegates at the recent County Convention that Armagh would require a further £25K this year and he did not intend to ask the clubs to contribute to this sum.
All clubs will be required to pay the same levy which they have been paying over the past few years.
So, not such good news at all.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 14, 2007, 11:17:45 AM
Seen this on orchardcounty...posted from Barry
QuoteJust to clarify a matter that was drawn to my attention tonight.

Even though the club league positions have seemingly been confirmed for 2006, THIS IS NOT THE CASE.

Clann Eireann's appeal over the play-off game against Culloville is still with the Ulster Council after the County boards decision to eliminate them.
:o Is that correct?
Unlikely any decision will be overturned by the ulster council but still!

From the BBC...
QuoteKernan wins writers monthly award
Paul Kernan has become the third member of his family to win the Tennent's Ulster GAA Writers monthly merit award.

Kernan picks up the December award after helping Crossmaglen claim the AIB Ulster Club Football title.

His father Armagh boss Joe Kernan has twice won the award while his brother Stephen has also been a recipient.

Kernan produced a great display when taking the full-back role against Ballinderry because of the absence of the injured Francie Bellew.
::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 14, 2007, 01:44:17 PM

whisper it quietly... paul took the mother and father of all roastings from gareth o'neill in the u21 final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 14, 2007, 02:01:25 PM
Surely a cert for Armagh Panel..
Has to follow in Kernan tradition, getting a roasting in the U21 final in december weeks later be on panel. Has happened before, could very well happen again, 1 decent game enough to win award?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 14, 2007, 02:11:23 PM
QuoteSurely a cert for Armagh Panel..
Has to follow in Kernan tradition, getting a roasting in the U21 final in december weeks later be on panel. Has happened before, could very well happen again, 1 decent game enough to win award?
It is if your a Kernan, if it was anyone else they wouldnt even be noticed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 14, 2007, 04:40:13 PM
Just back from Lurgan where I witnessed a really entertaining game.  Armagh held on to win by the minimum margin.
We were 8-2 ahead at half time but were playing into a stiff breeze in the 2nd half.  Stevie scored a point in the 1st minute of the half to go 9-2 ahead, but we never scored again.
Fermanagh got a goal half way through the second half to close the gap to 4 points and missed some other chaces to get the win, or at least a draw.

Paddy McKeever received a straight red for what looked like a stamp, though I was at the other side of the pitch.  It was a tough enough game and Marty McGrath was lucky enough that he didn't get an early bath for swinging elbow on Martin O'Rourke in the 1st half.

Kieran Toner from Granemore was excellent, and it was also good to see decent showings from McClelland, Ferris, Donaghy and McCreesh (though perhaps McCreesh was a little small to be left one on one with the forward on the edge of the square towards the end when the Erne men were pressing).
McClelland won some great aeriel ball in the first half and his workrate was brilliant during the second, including a couple of crucial blocks towards the end when Fermanagh were attacking.
Of all the new lads I would say only Forker didn't advance his chances of staking a claim for a league position.

Martin O'Rourke had a terrific game, he was all over the pitch and was on the end of some heavy tackles.

Alan Hearty in nets didn't do anything wrong.

Peadar Toal is an enigma, strong as an ox and a great sweet foot on him, but he didn't seem to come looking for work.  There was one instance where he picked up the ball on the 45 on his own, and he just seemed to saunter forward (ala John Mac) and he dallied until he was tackled / blocked down, rather than putting the head down and making inroads towards the sticks.

One question for Joe, what is the point in playing Stevie all the way through January, and therefore the whole way during the year?
Give him a break Joe, we have not seen the best of him since 2003, and I am convinced it is due to the fact that he never misses a game.
Title: Ref
Post by: john mcgill on January 14, 2007, 04:46:00 PM
McCarron the Monaghan ref retired at half time with a leg injury and repaced by a Doen ref.  Near the end a frustrated Fermanagh supporter yelled "the first couldn't walk and this one can't see". 
Title: Re: Ref
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 14, 2007, 05:09:59 PM
Quote from: john mcgill on January 14, 2007, 04:46:00 PM
McCarron the Monaghan ref retired at half time with a leg injury and repaced by a Doen ref.  Near the end a frustrated Fermanagh supporter yelled "the first couldn't walk and this one can't see". 

It was actually a loud mouthed Armagh supporter near me who shouted that.  10 minutes previous to that he called young Ferris "an asshole" for turning the wrong way :o

Not the kind of supporter we should be looking up to.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on January 14, 2007, 06:08:51 PM
Quote from: holylandsniper on January 14, 2007, 02:01:25 PM
Surely a cert for Armagh Panel..
Has to follow in Kernan tradition, getting a roasting in the U21 final in december weeks later be on panel.

I believe Shay Given let in four or five goals in a soccer game weeks before being signed by Celtic.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 14, 2007, 07:08:40 PM
Decent enough game today, if there was a MOTM award I would have given it to Kieran Toner in MF, good to see him and his Granemore teammate McClelland playing very well. Martin O'Rourke had a fantastic first half but sort of dissappeared a bit during the second, McDonnell was tops again.  Toal had a good first half but faded in the second as well (funny, I mentioned the John Mac style as well on the way home).  I thought the defence was dodgy enough with Ciaran McKeever and JP Donnelly probably the best, thought Ferris was skinned every time.  I'd like to see more of Toner as I don't think Loughran is consistently up to county standard, but there's a big difference between MCKenna Cup & League & Championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 14, 2007, 07:42:04 PM
QuoteI believe Shay Given let in four or five goals in a soccer game weeks before being signed by Celtic.
And has since proven his talent
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 14, 2007, 07:45:24 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 14, 2007, 07:08:40 PM
I thought the defence was dodgy enough with Ciaran McKeever and JP Donnelly probably the best, thought Ferris was skinned every time. 


Surely Ferris (number 5) was playing at CHF?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on January 15, 2007, 01:07:00 AM
I thought Ferris had a very good game and showed a lot of promise for the future (maybe not this year though).  Seemed to win a lot of ball that wasnt his to win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 15, 2007, 09:54:01 AM
I personally didn't think Ferris had the best of games. He was industrious, but his marker had the better of him every time.

Forker looked very nervous I thought. He was constantly out in front of the defender...he's a flyer! But dithered on the ball. What age is Stefan?

What was with Ciaran McKeever's distribution? I think he kicked 4 free kicks into defenders no more than 20 yards away!

Paddy Heaney's face when he found out the Tyrone Derry score at halftime was funny!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 15, 2007, 09:57:45 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 14, 2007, 07:45:24 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 14, 2007, 07:08:40 PM
I thought the defence was dodgy enough with Ciaran McKeever and JP Donnelly probably the best, thought Ferris was skinned every time. 


Surely Ferris (number 5) was playing at CHF?

Paudie McCreesh was number 5, Ferris was 9, i think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on January 15, 2007, 10:01:20 AM
Ahh if it was McCreesh at number 5 then I might have been wrong on my feelings on Ferris.  I didnt get a program yesterday so I was going on the fact people beside me where saying Ferris was number 5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 15, 2007, 10:13:02 AM
Anyone got the team, scorers & subs that came on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on January 15, 2007, 10:13:43 AM
armagh squad numbers from orchardcounty

1. Ciaran McKinney (Pearse Og)
2. Brendan Donaghy (Clonmore)
3. J P Donnelly (Harps)
4. Paul Duffy (Pearse Og)
5. Martin Ferris (Carrickcruppen)
6. Stefan Forker (Maghery)
7. Philip Loughran (Claudy)
8. Tony McClelland (Granemore)
9. Gerard McCreesh (Mullaghbawn)
10. Paudie McCreesh (St Patricks)
11. Steven McDonnell (Killeavy)
12. Kieran McGeeney (Na Fianna)
13. Paul McGrane (Ballyhegan)
14. Ciaran McKeever (St Paticks)
15. Paddy McKeever (ballyhegan)
16. Alan Hearty (Crossmaglen)
17. Enda McNulty (Ballyboden)
18. Neil McSherry (Whitecross)
19. Malachy Mackin (St Patricks)
20. Andy Mallon (Pearse Og)
21. Ciaran Toner (Granemore)
22. Kevin O'Rourke (St Michaels)
23. Martin O'Rourke (Dromintee)
24. Gareth Swift (Harps)
25. Peadar Toal (Harps)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 15, 2007, 10:23:28 AM
                  A Hearty

Mallon          McNulty          JP

McClelland    McKeever        McCreesh (Switched with JP though, maybe half time?)

          Nippy          Toner

Toal              Ferris           MOR

Stevie          Donaghy        Forker


Not sure who came off for Paddy McKeever....Might have been Donaghy?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 15, 2007, 10:24:49 AM
Looks like my mistake then if those numbers are correct .  Must have been McCreesh who I thought was getting skinned.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 15, 2007, 10:26:55 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 15, 2007, 09:57:45 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 14, 2007, 07:45:24 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 14, 2007, 07:08:40 PM
I thought the defence was dodgy enough with Ciaran McKeever and JP Donnelly probably the best, thought Ferris was skinned every time. 


Surely Ferris (number 5) was playing at CHF?

Paudie McCreesh was number 5, Ferris was 9, i think.

Afraid not Benny.  When I was at school F came before M in the alphabet ;)

Benny, that was posted before I seen your last post!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 15, 2007, 10:28:12 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 15, 2007, 10:23:28 AM
                  A Hearty

Mallon          McNulty          JP

McClelland    McKeever        McCreesh (Switched with JP though, maybe half time?)

          Nippy          Toner

Toal              Ferris           MOR

Stevie          Donaghy        Forker


Not sure who came off for Paddy McKeever....Might have been Donaghy?

Forker made way for Paddy Mac.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 15, 2007, 11:37:09 AM
I picked this off orchardcounty.It gives s good insight into what it takes to succeed.

QuoteCross purpose
Michael Foley

Donal Murtagh heads to the Ulster club football final with high hopes of bringing the glory days back to Crossmaglen


Donal Murtagh charts the changing seasons from the sheds beside Mannan Castle Golf Club, from the burnt fairways of the summer to the shortened days of winter spent carefully vacuuming wet leaves and repairing plugholes around the course. This is his workplace, and his haven. The outside world is restrained at a safe distance behind the ridges and slopes of the course. Last week Murtagh headed to Dublin for a greenkeeping course and spent much of the afternoon trying to plot his way around the traffic in his head before he left for home. Too much noise. Too many people.



Mannan gives him time to obsess, to think. As a child he came home from football matches with Crossmaglen and lulled himself to sleep finding nuts in his performance that needed tightening. Now, as manager, he spends his time thinking of others. For 20 years he anchored Crossmaglen at full-back, unshakeable through the lean times and a rock when they reached Croke Park. Football always began and ended with Crossmaglen. He remembers county chairmen and Armagh managers trooping across the fairways 10 years ago looking for him to play, but Armagh never drew him the same way as Cross did. One afternoon he saw one pair strolling across Ashfield course in Cullyhanna, golfbags slung over their shoulders. "I knew it wasn't out to play golf they were going. They cornered me on the course and tried to talk me into [playing for Armagh], but I bluffed them. I had no heed on putting in that effort for the county at the time."

Armagh got him in once, but he was young and didn't know any better. In 1990 his neighbour Joe Kernan was Armagh assistant manager, Murtagh was 20 and, in the midst of another troubled year, GAA players had been deemed legitimate targets by loyalist paramilitaries. Some received death threats. Teams were disrupted and training was broken up. The Armagh team split into four training pods: the Belfast-based players trained together, those in north Armagh trained in Lurgan, Armagh city was a third venue while the south Armagh players trained in Mullaghbawn. With a chunk of south Armagh players in Belfast, six players routinely gathered under Kernan. One night they trained with the wind howling down the pitch and sleet lodging on their backs with only an endless procession of laps to keep them warm. It was a fortnight before Christmas, and nothing about the place could hold Murtagh's interest.

"I was used to having the winter off and coming back when the weather was good. Maybe I was a bit spoiled. I went to Joe [Kernan] and told him some lie that a doctor said I was injured and I should take time off. Joe reluctantly agreed and said he'd ring me after Christmas and I told him the same excuse after Christmas. I got away and I never went back.

"I'd had a couple of sickeners at underage with Armagh. I was full-back for the minors and we got to the Ulster final [1987] and I got dropped. I was the best player we had all year. I had a bit of an injury coming into it all right but there was no reason I couldn't have played. Down beat us and James McCartan was playing corner-forward. I was told "keep yourself ready, you'll be on here in five minutes". James McCartan practically beat us himself and I still never got on. The time and the effort was nothing compared to now, but I wasn't willing to give it at that stage. I'd give any sacrifice for my club, but I wasn't willing to give it for Armagh at the time."

People promised him he would regret leaving Armagh behind but he never gave it heed. A few years later Crossmaglen took off and Murtagh had three All-Ireland medals before Armagh won theirs. By the time he retired last winter he had won 10 county medals and four Ulster titles. Teams had always tried to find a way round him, but his confidence had always been bulletproof. He was good in the air and read the game well on the ground. He handled Peter Canavan in Ulster and Jason Sherlock in All-Irelands when Crossmaglen needed him. Empire building was their business in Cross back then. His only regret remains that it didn't live a little longer.

"I think we should've won two more [All-Irelands]. I've told the boys this on a couple of occasions. In that period from '96 to 2002, we won three and we should've had at least two more. We should've had the four in a row from 1997 to 2000 and possibly between 2001 and 2002 we should've had another one. By 2004 the team were in transition. We had a lot of players coming through and they were very young.

"If Armagh hadn't been about I've no doubt we would have had two more All-Irelands, but you can't do both. It's rare to have club and county do well at the same time and that was the case in Armagh. But if one hadn't existed the other might have done better."

Before the feast, Murtagh survived the famine. In 1986 Crossmaglen had won the county title with Murtagh flitting about the fringes. There had been talk of adding him to the senior panel, but he was young and busy with Armagh minors and assorted others. When he did make it that autumn, Crossmaglen were heading into a decade's hibernation. Ten years would pass before their next title. By then, Murtagh was almost worn out.

"The mentality of the team was probably wrong. You'd have a very poor attendance at training up until a month before championship. If you told some of the players now that was the case, they wouldn't believe you, that six weeks before a championship match there'd have to be a big meeting called, and that meeting was called every year. All right, some years you went out and still won the championship, but things were still wrong. There was no effort being put in."

A new generation of players changed everything and Murtagh was swept up with them. Thirteen minors emerged from one team onto the senior panel. Eight of them were prodigies, the rest were good enough to provide the required support. Oisín McConville emerged first, followed by the McEntee twins and Francie Bellew. Murtagh found himself training in November to keep with them. By the end of 1995, Crossmaglen were re-energised.

"A bread man used to call to our house at home, mad into football. He was from Silverbridge, who'd be our biggest rivals, and he got to talking about who'd win the championship. He was a real old man, and he says, 'If Cross don't win all before them for the next 10 years then I know nothing about football.'"

The bread man saw them coming, but few others did. When the potential winners of the 1996 championship were discussed, Crossmaglen were tucked away in the pack. It hurt the players, and as the years rolled on the causes kept popping up. Having won their first All-Ireland title in 1997, they remained outside the favourites to retain their county title. Long before the pursuit of history drove them on, they had much to prove among their own.

"We couldn't believe that. There was people saying that was Cross finished. They'd never win another championship. The mentality was once you'd win something like that you'd celebrate it for the rest of your life. Cross players celebrated for two weeks and went back to basics. We knew how good we were. We just got on with it and the sort of players we had were very down to earth. Very few got carried away."


Since then Crossmaglen have been unbeaten in Armagh and remained an imposing force beyond, but six years have passed since their last All-Ireland title. The team has slowly changed. Of the 10 players honoured for winning 10 county medals at the club's dinner dance this winter, only four remain on the team.
This year has been a challenge. The Armagh title was won with greater ease than they expected, but Ulster has been a struggle. At different times during the year Murtagh thought back to his own time in the late 1990s when Joe Kernan brought in Sean Boylan, Colm O'Rourke, Martin McHugh and others to talk to the team about winning All-Irelands. Now he stands in a dressing room where a third of the team have won four medals. The list of speakers has shortened.

Keeping them hungry can be tough. At one stage in the year, one senior player told him he felt training was overrated, but the rush of winter games has helped keep their interest. When he took over as manager he brought Martin Califf with him to provide the same security he did as corner-back alongside Murtagh for years. The team still look to the McEntees and McConville, Francie Bellew, Paul Hearty and a new generation of Kernan boys, but everything else about Crossmaglen is young and new.

This summer their entire under-21 team was transplanted onto the senior panel. During last weekend's semi-final against Clontibret, Stephen Finnegan, a minor, was introduced for his very first senior game for Crossmaglen and slotted in seamlessly. In an Ulster semi-final. They rear them for those days.

"The last few years were a bit sticky in Armagh. We could've been beat, but I think we have made the transition over the last couple of years. I think we've a lot better squad to pick from. Even when we were winning All-Ireland titles the squad wouldn't have been as strong. Obviously some of the players mightn't be playing as good a level of football, but we've a stronger squad now in terms of depth. I'd have used up to 24 players this year, whereas when Joe was over the team he was lucky. He wouldn't have used any more than 18."

Different times, but Murtagh has seen anything these long winters can toss at him. In a quiet corner hedged by the border, the quest for greatness continues.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue is the colour on January 15, 2007, 11:38:09 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 14, 2007, 11:17:45 AM
Seen this on orchardcounty...posted from Barry
QuoteJust to clarify a matter that was drawn to my attention tonight.

Even though the club league positions have seemingly been confirmed for 2006, THIS IS NOT THE CASE.

Clann Eireann's appeal over the play-off game against Culloville is still with the Ulster Council after the County boards decision to eliminate them.
:o Is that correct?
Unlikely any decision will be overturned by the ulster council but still!

Couldnt c the ulster council over ruling the decision. think of the practical problems it would cause! If Culloville and clanns where to play off again would clanns have to play carrickcurppen and the bridge if they won?I thought dat the decision to throw clanns out of the playoffs for such a minor Incident was very rough and it was a joke that it took 3 weeks to reach a decision the playoffs really didnt work out this year (although we got promoted because of them) glad to c they wont b in place next yr.
Quote
Title: John Morrison
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 15, 2007, 11:57:23 AM
Any Tullysaran heads on the board??

I hear they were forking out £300 for the boul Morrison to train them, now he's at Clonoe.

What happened there?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on January 15, 2007, 12:00:48 PM
Armagh were very lucky yesterday - a lot of guys fell apart in the second half - notably Ciaran McKeever who kicked at least 3 frees into the hands of a Fermanagh man, Ferris who was roasted and Nippy who really needs to give the ball instead of constantly running and hoping to get a free.... :-\

Toner was excellent - Peadar needs to work harder and he could be a legend this year - JP worked hard and pulled Armagh out of a few holes though he needs to calm down a bit -any smell of blood and he is in there ready to box!

Seacrest out
Title: Re: John Morrison
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 15, 2007, 12:25:48 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 15, 2007, 11:57:23 AM
Any Tullysaran heads on the board??

I hear they were forking out £300 for the boul Morrison to train them, now he's at Clonoe.

What happened there?

I don't believe there was ever an agreement between Morrision and Tullysaran - as witnessed by the fact that he has gone to Clonoe.

You sure it wasn't just pubtalk Goats?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 15, 2007, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 15, 2007, 12:25:48 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 15, 2007, 11:57:23 AM
Any Tullysaran heads on the board??

I hear they were forking out £300 for the boul Morrison to train them, now he's at Clonoe.

What happened there?

I don't believe there was ever an agreement between Morrision and Tullysaran - as witnessed by the fact that he has gone to Clonoe.

You sure it wasn't just pubtalk Goats?

From what i've heard i think one of the reasons it didn't work out was because of all the slabbering round the town about money.  I think his family members were getting alot of stick about it as well.  But then again Armagh people do love to mouth.  It's a pity
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: harps2002champs on January 15, 2007, 12:53:45 PM
wat goes around comes around...not like the morrisons dont do any mouthing themselves :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 15, 2007, 01:26:10 PM
The man was lookin far too much to coach a junior side, lukn players to set up direct debits and everything!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on January 15, 2007, 01:31:10 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on January 15, 2007, 01:26:10 PM
The man was lookin far too much to coach a junior side, lukn players to set up direct debits and everything!

what? your having a giraffe surely...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 15, 2007, 01:49:37 PM
Hey lads wasn't it great to get a county match back in Davitt Park the only problem is the south Armagh lads don't like playing on it, can't imagine why? Maybe its because of the travelling or that they very seldom win a match on it ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 15, 2007, 02:14:02 PM
Did he not take a couple of training sessions!??

Not sure about the DD's...but I was told the players were willing to make a contribution!  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 15, 2007, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 15, 2007, 01:49:37 PM
Hey lads wasn't it great to get a county match back in Davitt Park the only problem is the south Armagh lads don't like playing on it, can't imagine why? Maybe its because of the travelling or that they very seldom win a match on it ;)

You are one knob
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: heganboy on January 15, 2007, 03:52:48 PM
anybody got any details on McKeever getting the straight red?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 15, 2007, 04:10:15 PM
Ref never seen it. The linesman flagged & when they chatted he kinda showed the ref that he kicked backwards at one of the Fermanagh players.

Still he's looking trim. He showed a bit of class for the time he was on the field. Called a ball from the Kick out one time (near the supporters) & to be fair he got it even though he was outnumbered!

I'd think he would be an option in full forward in the absence of Clarkey?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 15, 2007, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: full back on January 15, 2007, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 15, 2007, 01:49:37 PM
Hey lads wasn't it great to get a county match back in Davitt Park the only problem is the south Armagh lads don't like playing on it, can't imagine why? Maybe its because of the travelling or that they very seldom win a match on it ;)

You are one knob

Thats a bit strong full back, can't you take a joke you melter or maybe you are sick of loosing on our pitch as well ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 15, 2007, 05:03:33 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 15, 2007, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: full back on January 15, 2007, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 15, 2007, 01:49:37 PM
Hey lads wasn't it great to get a county match back in Davitt Park the only problem is the south Armagh lads don't like playing on it, can't imagine why? Maybe its because of the travelling or that they very seldom win a match on it ;)

You are one knob

Thats a bit strong full back, can't you take a joke you melter or maybe you are sick of loosing on our pitch as well ::)


Oh Sorry illdecide-didnt realise it was a joke :D :D :D
Will be back later-have to go get my sides stitched up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 15, 2007, 05:05:39 PM
Quote from: full back on January 15, 2007, 05:03:33 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 15, 2007, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: full back on January 15, 2007, 02:21:07 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 15, 2007, 01:49:37 PM
Hey lads wasn't it great to get a county match back in Davitt Park the only problem is the south Armagh lads don't like playing on it, can't imagine why? Maybe its because of the travelling or that they very seldom win a match on it ;)

You are one knob

Thats a bit strong full back, can't you take a joke you melter or maybe you are sick of loosing on our pitch as well ::)

Any more of that and you'll need your face stitched up :D, sorry couldn't resist that you left yourself open ;)


Oh Sorry illdecide-didnt realise it was a joke :D :D :D
Will be back later-have to go get my sides stitched up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 16, 2007, 10:50:27 AM
after the 1st 2 wins in the mc kenna cup this year and the many young players who have been given a chance so far in the 1st 2 games, is there many of the new boys who look like they would deserve an extended run in the league campaign with a view to possible inclusion come championship time?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Border Fox on January 16, 2007, 11:05:25 AM
Any changes at the AGM last night trueblue?

Is Sean still in the chair?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 16, 2007, 11:24:29 AM
Quote from: Border Fox on January 16, 2007, 11:05:25 AM
Any changes at the AGM last night trueblue?

Is Sean still in the chair?

kevin rowlands back in the chair,seans vice chairman. same secretary,micky mc coy new vice secretary.
mark watters new treasurer,  vice treasurers barry watters and seamus watters
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Border Fox on January 16, 2007, 11:25:57 AM
No Malachy

I suppose there's enough of the next generation there anyway!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 16, 2007, 11:28:35 AM
malachy is insurance officer which is a new and important position plus hes a selector with the senior team which is also a big role to undertake
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 16, 2007, 12:54:03 PM
Mark watters treasuere?  :D.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Border Fox on January 16, 2007, 01:03:26 PM
What's wrong with that corn?
He'll be ably asissted by his cousins Seamy and Barry
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 16, 2007, 01:12:38 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 16, 2007, 12:54:03 PM
Mark watters treasuere? :D.

wat would that be now treasuere? :D

feck all wrong with mark good to see a few more of the younger lads getting involved
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 16, 2007, 01:13:57 PM
Ach im only joking, Marks a good lad. Whitecross seems to have a similar structure with plenty of young fellas in the higher roles.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 16, 2007, 01:21:36 PM
ah i know ya are so am i  ;)

aye well sometimes a change at the top end does no harm to freshen things up a bit and it can bring new ideas to  the table but sure well have to wait and c
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 16, 2007, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 16, 2007, 01:13:57 PM
Ach im only joking, Marks a good lad. Whitecross seems to have a similar structure with plenty of young fellas in the higher roles.

Who are these young fellas corn?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Border Fox on January 16, 2007, 05:14:52 PM
Just occurred to me that in the Exec Committee positions in Culloville, that as well as Mark, Seamy and Barry, (all around 21) you have Gerard Callan as Secretary  and Stephen Rowland as PRO (both mid-20s). That is very progressive
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 16, 2007, 05:15:37 PM
I could be wrong but are the McSherry brothers not in roles such as vice chairman or treasurer? I think there is someone else around that age as well, i could be misguided.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 17, 2007, 08:38:31 AM
Right all you's Harp's men spill the beans, what happened to JP that it was bad enough for him to transfer to your nearest and dearest? :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 17, 2007, 08:52:48 AM
I've heard the reason behind it but I don't want to spread it on the board. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on January 17, 2007, 09:03:21 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on January 17, 2007, 08:52:48 AM
I've heard the reason behind it but I don't want to spread it on the board. 

PM the reason, would ya?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 17, 2007, 09:09:26 AM
Jaysus, is the reason that bad?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on January 17, 2007, 12:11:41 PM
Apparently he was told to lose the "mulligan" mullet. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: trueblue on January 18, 2007, 10:57:02 AM
DOES ANYBODY KNOW WEN THE CHAMPIONSHIP DRAWS FOR THE FORTCOMING YEAR WILL BE DRAWN UP OR THE STARTING DATES FOR THE LEAGUES?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on January 18, 2007, 10:59:51 AM
Probably in the next week, I think its always end of January.

what bets a Harps v Ogs 1st round clash.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 18, 2007, 11:07:01 AM
Championship draw usually made at first county board meeting which i imagine will be February
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 18, 2007, 12:44:17 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on January 18, 2007, 10:59:51 AM
Probably in the next week, I think its always end of January.

what bets a Harps v Ogs 1st round clash.

I dunno but it'd be some craic
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on January 18, 2007, 01:19:32 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on January 17, 2007, 08:52:48 AM
I've heard the reason behind it but I don't want to spread it on the board. 

I heard the y wouldnt help with his medical fees or cover his lost wages after he was injured playing for the harps..... but maybe just a rumour!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 18, 2007, 01:42:11 PM
would the harps have maybe tried to get Armagh city to pay for half of it??!?! maybe thats just another rumour.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 18, 2007, 01:56:33 PM
you would think this topic would have ran its course by now.................
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 18, 2007, 02:03:13 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on January 18, 2007, 01:19:32 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on January 17, 2007, 08:52:48 AM
I've heard the reason behind it but I don't want to spread it on the board.?

I heard the y wouldnt help with his medical fees or cover his lost wages after he was injured playing for the harps..... but maybe just a rumour!
Quote from: Hank Everlast on January 18, 2007, 01:42:11 PM
would the harps have maybe tried to get Armagh city to pay for half of it??!?! maybe thats just another rumour.
"A lie gets half way round the world before the truth even gets its pants on" Winston Churchill
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Pat Molloy on January 18, 2007, 02:09:07 PM
sure its not the other way around? Injured playin for armagh city and wouldn't play any games for the Harps! Armagh city asked the harps to pay for his treatment even though he didn't play any games with them never mind get injured there... (Rumour Has It)???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 18, 2007, 02:31:35 PM
I think this happened when he played for Armagh Celtic.

Celtic offered half the money for his op.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Pat Molloy on January 18, 2007, 02:32:56 PM
No it was defo City!! sure where would celtic get the money?? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 18, 2007, 03:03:24 PM
I'm talking 5 years ago could have been the 2nd time he wrecked the knee!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 18, 2007, 03:11:07 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 18, 2007, 03:03:24 PM
I'm talking 5 years ago could have been the 2nd time he wrecked the knee!


He hurt his knee recently playing with City it was not to the same extent as what he hurt it with Celtic.  however the Physio bill was quite big and their was a dispute over who was going to pay for it.  The matter has since been sorted out, so do not believe all you read on an tinternet chat board!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 18, 2007, 03:22:17 PM
CORRECTO!!
most of the sh*t on here is posted by WUM's with nothing better to do...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on January 18, 2007, 03:25:44 PM
Quote from: Candyman on January 18, 2007, 03:22:17 PM
CORRECTO!!
most of the sh*t on here is posted by WUM's with nothing better to do...


Pot Kettle Black ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 18, 2007, 03:33:22 PM
spirit any chance of you posting some photos of the team of 98 or do you call yourself that for other reasons.... I believe Joe Marley was the captain of that team or so he tells me!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 18, 2007, 03:34:43 PM
anything i post on here is fact not fiction and involves my club only, not others!!! >:(
my alter-ego on the other hand... ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 18, 2007, 03:58:05 PM
Quote from: Candyman on January 18, 2007, 03:34:43 PM
anything i post on here is fact not fiction and involves my club only, not others!!! >:(
my alter-ego on the other hand... ;D

The Bible according to Candyman full of facts  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 18, 2007, 04:34:57 PM
of course.... The truth, the whole truth and nothin but the truth  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 18, 2007, 04:42:04 PM
Aye, so help you god!!! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Out in Front on January 18, 2007, 11:30:14 PM
Armagh teams '53, '77, '02 & '03

Can anybody tell me where I could get a list of the complete Armagh panels from the '53, '77, '02 & '03 All-Ireland finals to include names AND clubs?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on January 19, 2007, 08:32:19 AM
QuoteCan anybody tell me where I could get a list of the complete Armagh panels from the '53, '77, '02 & '03 All-Ireland finals to include names AND clubs?

Yes, you should find them listed in the middle pages of each programme. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 19, 2007, 09:00:32 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on January 19, 2007, 08:32:19 AM
QuoteCan anybody tell me where I could get a list of the complete Armagh panels from the '53, '77, '02 & '03 All-Ireland finals to include names AND clubs?

Yes, you should find them listed in the middle pages of each programme. ;)

Classic  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 21, 2007, 06:45:18 PM
Couldn't make it today.  Any reports?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 21, 2007, 06:50:36 PM
Good win, new talent looks to be ok, Granemore lads i thought was good, JP did well Martin O Rourke in first half did well before having to come off. Stevie as usual. Young Paudie McCreesh was impressive. K O Rourke done v.well, only thing that really let him down was is final product but he certainly tried.  Of the players their today, few have little chance of coming through, whitecross corner forward was poor, Forker or Swift didn't impress either. Enda sorry was also very good, freeman did noting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on January 22, 2007, 09:06:08 AM
Good win

I know it has been mentioned before, but why does Kernan insist on played McDonnell in every game, I feel his sharpness will be affected.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on January 22, 2007, 09:13:29 AM
I think the granemore lads were great - tried hard and played well.  Forwards weren't on song today - Stevie did nothing until the last ten minutes really.  Martin O'Rourke was a workhorse until he got injured - felt bad for Duffy too as the pitch was always gonna cause injuries! JP was a rock - did great and worked well all over the field even scoring a reluctant point.  Nippy nippy nippy - I dunno what he is it - he just looks a bit lazy on the field.  If he had the same hunger and tenacity as Kevin O'Rourke we would be singing his praises!
Not a bad performance - the new kids on the block did well for Armagh and some of the old heads showed well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 22, 2007, 11:07:38 AM
To be honest I never expected this Armagh team to beat Monaghan yesterday. Monaghan fielded a strong line up yesterday, I maybe wrong but I wouldn't imagine there would be too many changes by the time C'ship comes round!!?

I'm a lot less pessimistic than I was 3 weeks ago about Armagh's strength in depth. When you consider the players that are missing through the Universitites/injury/rested etc things look a bit brighter now!

- Still Tyrone are obviously gonna be the yardstick - I hope it's another Armagh - Tyrone final to guage how these young fellas will do against the old rivals!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 22, 2007, 12:19:23 PM
Here lads does anyone know when the draws for the 2007 championship are ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 12:22:21 PM
winsamsoon, your name should be willwefuck.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on January 22, 2007, 12:25:10 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 12:22:21 PM
winsamsoon, your name should be willwefuck.

You'll be laying nice odds on that slim?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 12:27:47 PM
i don't have a betfair account. what are the bookies offering? I'm very VERY confident Armagh won't win Sam.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on January 22, 2007, 12:37:04 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 12:27:47 PM
i don't have a betfair account. what are the bookies offering? I'm very VERY confident Armagh won't win Sam.

Gimme 10/1 and i'll have a score with ye
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 22, 2007, 12:37:35 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 22, 2007, 12:19:23 PM
Here lads does anyone know when the draws for the 2007 championship are ?
from what Ive been told the draw will take place this week either tonight or wedensday night. as will the league fixtures.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 12:42:50 PM
what are the bookies offering? for the 2nd time.

the way i see it is, Armagh are a done team- finished, you can put Ronan Clarke in that bracket too- too much too soon and his best days are sadly behind him. As for the rest, we apart from Aaron Kernan (the best defender in Ireland apparently  :D ;D) there is nobody there for other mediocre teams to fear.

McEntees-done
Oisin-done
Francie-he's still Francie but, done
McGeeney-well done
McNulty-done
O'Rourke-done

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on January 22, 2007, 12:44:45 PM
QuoteI'm very VERY confident Armagh won't win Sam.

Armagh's chances of winning Sam as about the same as Antrim's chances of winning an Ulster championship game. Could be better I suppose. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armamike on January 22, 2007, 12:46:18 PM
A few points from yesterday's match. A solid, if unspectacular Armagh performance.  Well organised and sound at the back, strong around midfield (during the first half in particular) but lightweight in the full forward line, with McDonnell the only real threat here.  As mentioned, the two Granemore lads did well, particularly McClelland. The Harps lads likewise. Paedar Toal covered a lot of ground, scoring a couple of nice points.  JP Donnelly put the recent transfer speculation behind him with a good performance from the back, roving forward quite a lot.  Swift did quite well in patches.  McKinney continues to be a very assuring presence in goals.  The forward division is going to be a big worry for us this year.  If Toal keeps putting in the effort he'll be in with a shout, but we need more in the full forward line. Kevin O'Rourke looks a lively player, but as someone else has said here, he lacks an end product at the minute. We have to plan to be without Clarke and Mallon (if either or both come back it will be a bonus) and look at the options up front.

As a footnote, Armagh seem to keep producing big lads from underage level who aren't the quickest, whereas the opposite is the case in Tyrone! Bit of a generalisation i suppose , but it struck me again yesterday. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 22, 2007, 01:07:34 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 12:42:50 PM
what are the bookies offering? for the 2nd time.

the way i see it is, Armagh are a done team- finished, you can put Ronan Clarke in that bracket too- too much too soon and his best days are sadly behind him. As for the rest, we apart from Aaron Kernan (the best defender in Ireland apparently  :D ;D) there is nobody there for other mediocre teams to fear.

McEntees-done
Oisin-done
Francie-he's still Francie but, done
McGeeney-well done
McNulty-done
O'Rourke-done



LOL. Slim, our 7 "done"s would play your 15 undercooked of the park!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 01:42:41 PM
but sure we're only Antrim!

At least I can say, I've always supported them no matter how shit things were which is more than the Armaw contingent can say.

Reminds me of a soccer chant...

Where were you when you were shit?

;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on January 22, 2007, 01:51:22 PM
QuoteWhere were you when you were shit?

it being about 32 years since Armagh were as shit as Antrim, many of the Armagh posters on this board were not in a position to attend Armagh games at that stage, and some had not yet come in existence! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 01:54:02 PM
''it being about 32 years since Armagh were as shit as Antrim''

:D ;D

i'll give you this, you might not be very likeable people and may have less manners and social etiquette than your average shithouse rat but you are always good for a giggle!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on January 22, 2007, 01:55:00 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 12:42:50 PM
what are the bookies offering? for the 2nd time.

the way i see it is, Armagh are a done team- finished, you can put Ronan Clarke in that bracket too- too much too soon and his best days are sadly behind him. As for the rest, we apart from Aaron Kernan (the best defender in Ireland apparently  :D ;D) there is nobody there for other mediocre teams to fear.

McEntees-done
Oisin-done
Francie-he's still Francie but, done
McGeeney-well done
McNulty-done
O'Rourke-done



15/2 with paddypower Slim. I'm sure you can stretch to 10/1 being so confident and all that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on January 22, 2007, 02:52:05 PM
Slim, you have definetly got to be the most irritating **** on this board.  Always looking a fight. ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 02:53:50 PM
thanks High Catch, one aims to please. The truth hurts lads, it doesnt make for pretty reading and it wont be long until the Armagh Supporters club is back to having its monthly meetings in Tony Fearons Ford Cortina.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on January 22, 2007, 03:02:05 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 02:53:50 PM
thanks High Catch, one aims to please. The truth hurts lads, it doesnt make for pretty reading and it wont be long until the Armagh Supporters club is back to having its monthly meetings in Tony Fearons Ford Cortina.

Do i hear 10/1 slim?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 03:07:12 PM
its all about the queens head to you MD isnt it? if its not the horses its the football, maybe you have a problem... Greed is a terrible thing, is that why you moved to England? The money?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on January 22, 2007, 03:16:55 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 03:07:12 PM
its all about the queens head to you MD isnt it? if its not the horses its the football, maybe you have a problem... Greed is a terrible thing, is that why you moved to England? The money?

No i moved here for the weather.
Not so sure of yourself after all eh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 03:19:19 PM
i'm as sure as theres shit in our dog!

i just don't see the need to gamble at every opportunity unlike you, i bet you hide yer beaten dockets from the Mrs too.  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 22, 2007, 03:21:41 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 03:19:19 PM

i just don't see the need to gamble at every opportunity unlike you, i bet you hide yer beaten dockets from the Mrs too.  :D

:D :D Fcuk Slim you are one horrible child  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on January 22, 2007, 03:24:09 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 03:19:19 PM
i'm as sure as theres shit in our dog!

i just don't see the need to gamble at every opportunity unlike you, i bet you hide yer beaten dockets from the Mrs too.  :D

The fact you cant put your money where your mouth is says it all really.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 03:29:08 PM
oh, really tempting!!  :D ;D

if i were in the business i'd lay it- in fact if i was a bookie i'd probably mark them up at that price, however- as i'm not there is little point in me laying it for the sake of winning a measily 20 quid! if i layed you £100 it wouldnt be worth the risk of Kerry, Dublin, Tyrone, Mayo etc. etc. all getting hit by the plague.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on January 22, 2007, 03:37:39 PM
Slim. Are you Flameboy in disguise?  ??? >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on January 22, 2007, 03:39:04 PM
Now now maddog, do not under any circumstances challenge the all knowing all seeing slim shady, this hard man of Antrim has threatened to beat the crap out of many's a man on this board but when people found out who he was they laughed and he fecked for about a year.

The only annoying thing about slimmy is the fact the he thinks people have forgotten his cowardly, self imposed exile, well slimmy baby, we have not and we will not. :-*

Up Armagh. ;D

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maximus Marillius on January 22, 2007, 03:40:39 PM
Ah lads...some craic.. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 03:47:37 PM
Hardly Stew you fat mess!!

People only found out my identity 3 or 4 months ago, around the same time you were floating round cyber-space wondering why everyone had left the old board! (you silly ****!)  :D ;D

''slimmy baby''

WTF?!  :D

and blows me a kiss, jesus H christ!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 22, 2007, 04:45:46 PM
Did yous see that new advertisement about the two breeds going in to a South Armagh pub and everyone stops in their tracks like out of the film "An American warewolf in Britain" then the barman says "its tradition in South Armagh that new folk buys everyone a drink" then everyone goes about their business. Whats that all about? and what are they trying to say that South Armagh people are tight fisted tinkers, some promotion that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on January 22, 2007, 04:52:35 PM
Quote from: SlimShady on January 22, 2007, 03:47:37 PM
Hardly Stew you fat mess!!

People only found out my identity 3 or 4 months ago, around the same time you were floating round cyber-space wondering why everyone had left the old board! (you silly ****!)  :D ;D

''slimmy baby''

WTF?!  :D

and blows me a kiss, jesus H christ!!


Slimmy I have been a member of the new board almost from day one, I thought you might have been able to discern that from my posts. I was messing with shaney and that other gobshite from sligo.

So why did you feck off for a year slimmy??? you didnt just leave the board you feckin ran outta here when you got copped on to. ;D


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 22, 2007, 04:59:59 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 22, 2007, 04:45:46 PM
Did yous see that new advertisement about the two breeds going in to a South Armagh pub and everyone stops in their tracks like out of the film "An American warewolf in Britain" then the barman says "its tradition in South Armagh that new folk buys everyone a drink" then everyone goes about their business. Whats that all about? and what are they trying to say that South Armagh people are tight fisted tinkers, some promotion that?
Its like something that you would have seen before the good friday agreement!! two tourists going into a pub in south armagh an every thing goes quiet I was just waitin on the provos popping up from behind the counter and requesting ID!!! LOL ;D ;D

Also whats the craic with showing the Navan Fort sure that in Armagh City! ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 23, 2007, 09:12:48 AM
Quote from: Armamike on January 22, 2007, 12:46:18 PM
Kevin O'Rourke looks a lively player, but as someone else has said here, he lacks an end product at the minute.

Last time I watched this O'Rourke he was stamping on his Armagh Jersey in a huff after being taken off in the U21 championship match against Derry, looked  aright tit when he put it back on to go on again in ET.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SlimShady on January 23, 2007, 11:43:37 AM
good man Kevin...erm, ah... i mean buzzer.. you tell him!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 23, 2007, 11:49:20 AM
Well Buzzer-Are you from around Newtown?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 23, 2007, 11:54:22 AM

He must have been relaying his digust with himself so when he was screaming abuse at the management?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 23, 2007, 12:01:44 PM
I know what I saw, he was acting the w**ker, pure and simple.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on January 23, 2007, 12:14:51 PM
Listened to this game on the radio and the commentator described his behaviour as "petulent" by throwing the jersey on the deck (or maybe at the bench?)  He also said that it incensed the Armagh fans round about.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 23, 2007, 12:28:38 PM

I ear the same young fella is looking for a new club as newtown chased him?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 23, 2007, 12:37:47 PM

you tell me buzzer. o wait, you're a down man who just happened to be at the u21 game last year...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 23, 2007, 12:40:03 PM
Are you from Mayobridge Buzzer?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SlimShady on January 23, 2007, 12:46:32 PM
woooooooops
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 23, 2007, 12:47:21 PM
Quote from: buzzer on January 23, 2007, 12:06:50 PM
no im from co.down.. just happened to b at that game..  
mmmmm......... you said you were from Down  :-[ ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 23, 2007, 12:57:32 PM
Bow-wow Buzzer identify your club. or are you K. O Rourke in disguise ???  I'm sure your team mates would have some laugh at this! :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on January 23, 2007, 12:58:08 PM
Quoteand at any stage did i see i was a man?

That wud explain a lot!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: buzzer on January 23, 2007, 01:04:18 PM
kevin orourke in disguise? dont see any of use identifying yourselves.. thats what i cant stand low lives like youselves sitting behind a computer screen criticising players who try to play a decent game of fball, make 1 mistake and are the worst in the world. im from mayobridge if that makes it any better. id say k.orourke has maybe better to do than come on to this to read what a couple of wasters who havent a clue about fball have to say about him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 23, 2007, 01:15:44 PM
Thats the stuff lads, take the middle out of each other the craic's 90. Most people on the board know what clubs the lads represent and in a lot of cases who each other are with the exception of a few c**k boxes from other counties so nobody needs to identify themselves to a few melters ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 23, 2007, 01:18:29 PM
New poll needed. Is buzzer and K O'Rourke one of the same?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 23, 2007, 01:19:39 PM
My money's on buzzer being k o'rourke's girlfriend.

:-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stoke the boilers! on January 23, 2007, 01:21:46 PM
How does a Mayobridge "boy" have such an in depth knowledge of Newtown as regards being definite about players not being chsaed? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 23, 2007, 01:37:17 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 23, 2007, 01:18:29 PM
New poll needed. Is buzzer and K O'Rourke one of the same?
Quote from: Uladh on January 23, 2007, 01:19:39 PM
My money's on buzzer being k o'rourke's girlfriend.

:-*
My moneys on it being his Ma why else would he/she get into such a tizzy(girl talk ;D) about a player from a different county and parish!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on January 23, 2007, 01:55:52 PM
i think k o rourke is his dads cross dressing work mate who wares a sports bra when he plays!! does anyone know when the ballymacnab and stewartstown game is to be played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 23, 2007, 02:02:11 PM
No date as yet. From what an ex-nab player told me at the weekend there is a Dad of one of the suspended Nab players taking the Ulster council to court because he believes that his son was wrongfully suspended.  So this could roll on for a while.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 23, 2007, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: laughinpaddy on January 23, 2007, 02:02:11 PM
No date as yet. From what an ex-nab player told me at the weekend there is a Dad of one of the suspended Nab players taking the Ulster council to court because he believes that his son was wrongfully suspended.  So this could roll on for a while.

Is this true? If it is the GAA is a complete & utter mess. When you become a member of your local club/ association there should also be a form saying you will adhere to the rules of the GAA & take their rulings on all matters
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 23, 2007, 02:09:00 PM
Absolutley I agree whole heartedly.  But after appealling his sons 'conviction' that cost £1000 he thought he had no choice.  Sour grapes if you ask me there must be something that he lost the appeal on maybe because he was quilty??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 23, 2007, 05:58:20 PM
Where's all these buzzer boys posts, have they been deleted or have yous all lost it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on January 23, 2007, 06:01:25 PM
I've only looked at the computer there now and I'm thinking the same thing,  pints.

It look disorientated to say the least
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 24, 2007, 08:56:18 AM
there was a load of Buzzer posts on yesterday mornin so the must have been deleted
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 23, 2007, 05:58:20 PM
Where's all these buzzer boys posts, have they been deleted or have yous all lost it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 25, 2007, 10:07:35 AM
Will big Joe name his team to the press before Sunday?

Who's likely to be in?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 26, 2007, 01:14:33 PM
Has the phone lines been cut in South Armagh, thats the quietest yous lads have been this long time! Hey pint i thought you'd be gettin all excited now that the Bridge will be starting the season soon.

What clubs are playing in that Ulster league? and who plays who (Armagh teams)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on January 26, 2007, 01:53:47 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 26, 2007, 01:14:33 PM
Has the phone lines been cut in South Armagh, thats the quietest yous lads have been this long time! Hey pint i thought you'd be gettin all excited now that the Bridge will be starting the season soon.

What clubs are playing in that Ulster league? and who plays who (Armagh teams)

here you are chief.

SUNDAY 4th FEBRUARY -
   
  Group: A
Buncrana v Glenullin
Maghery v Irvinestown
Gortin a bye

Group: B
Aghyaran v Silverbridge
Clontibret v Ballyholland
Loup a bye

Group: C
Dromore v St. Michael's
Latton v Kilcoo
Castledawson a bye

Group: D
Trillick v Armagh Harps
Donaghmoyne v St. Paul's
Slaughtneil a bye

Group: E
Carrickmore v Doohamlet
Kinawley v Rossa
Lavey a bye

Group: F
Donaghmore v Tir Na nOg
Scotstown v Longstone
St. John's v Ballinderry

Group: G
Derrylaughan v Mullabawn
Brookeborough v Cargin
Ballinascreen v Moy

Group: H
Coalisland v Dromintee
Bryansford v Roslea
Creggan v Killyclogher
   
   
   
   
   
  - SUNDAY 11th FEBRUARY -
   
  Group: A
Irvinestown v Buncrana
Glenullin v Gortin
Maghery a bye

Group: B
Ballyholland v Aghyaran
Silverbridge v Loup
Clontibret a bye

Group: C
Kilcoo v Dromore
St. Michael's v Castledawson
Latton a bye

Group: D
St. Paul's v Trillick
Armagh Harps v Slaughtneil
Donaghmoyne a bye

Group: E
Rossa v Carrickmore
Doohamlet v Lavey
Kinawley a bye

Group: F
Longstone v Donaghmore
Ballinderry v Scotstown
Tir Na nOg v St. John's

Group: G
Cargin v Derrylaughan
Moy v Brookeborough
Mullabawn v Ballinascreen

Group: H
Roslea v Coalisland
Killyclogher v Bryansford
Dromintee v Creggan
   
   
   
     
  - SUNDAY 18th FEBRUARY -
   
  Group: A
Maghery v Gortin
Irvinestown v Glenullin
Buncrana a bye

Group: B
Clontibret v Loup
Ballyholland v Silverbridge
Aghyaran a bye

Group: C
Latton v Castledawson
Kilcoo v St. Michael's
Dromore a bye

Group: D
Donaghmoyne v Slaughtneil
St. Paul's v Armagh Harps
Trillick a bye

Group: E
Kinawley v Lavey
Rossa v Doohamlet
Carrickmore a bye

Group: F
Donaghmore v Ballinderry
Scotstown v St. John's
Longstone v Tir Na nOg

Group: G
Derrylaughan v Moy
Brookeborough v Ballinascreen
Cargin v Mullabawn

Group: H
Coalisland v Killyclogher
Bryansford v Creggan
Roslea v Dromintee
   
   
   
   
   
  - SUNDAY 25th FEBRUARY -
   
  Group: A
Gortin v Buncrana
Glenullin v Maghery
Irvinestown a bye

Group: B
Loup v Aghyaran
Silverbridge v Clontibret
Ballyholland a bye

Group: C
Castledawson v Dromore
St. Michael's v Latton
Kilcoo a bye

Group: D
Slaughtneil v Trillick
Armagh Harps v Donaghmoyne
St. Paul's a bye

Group: E
Lavey v Carrickmore
Doohamlet v Kinawley
Rossa a bye

Group: F
St. John's v Donaghmore
Tir Na nOg v Scotstown
Ballinderry v Longstone

Group: G
Ballinascreen v Derrylaughan
Mullabawn v Brookeborough
Moy v Cargin

Group: H
Creggan v Coalisland
Dromintee v Bryansford
Killyclogher v Roslea
   
     
     
  - SUNDAY 4th MARCH -
   
  Group: A
Buncrana v Maghery
Gortin v Irvinestown
Glenullin a bye

Group: B
Aghyaran v Clontibret
Loup v Ballyholland
Silverbridge a bye

Group: C
Dromore v Latton
Castledawson v Kilcoo
St. Michael's a bye

Group: D
Trillick v Donaghmoyne
Slaughtneil v St. Paul's
Armagh Harps a bye

Group: E
Carrickmore v Kinawley
Lavey v Rossa
Doohamlet a bye

Group: F
Donaghmore v Scotstown
Ballinderry v Tir Na nOg
Longstone v St. John's

Group: G
Derrylaughan v Brookeborough
Moy v Mullabawn
Cargin v Ballinascreen

Group: H
Coalisland v Bryansford
Killyclogher v Dromintee
Roslea v Creggan

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on January 26, 2007, 02:59:02 PM
As far as I know Silverbridge have pulled out of the Ulster League.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 26, 2007, 05:49:57 PM
QuoteHey pint i thought you'd be gettin all excited now that the Bridge will be starting the season soon.
:D
We're not starting the season yet, we've opted out of the ulster league.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on January 26, 2007, 06:43:14 PM
I heard that St Michael's has withdrawn from the Ulster League.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 27, 2007, 08:48:03 AM
the ogs have as well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on January 27, 2007, 10:45:50 AM
so have the ballycrummy 5 gfc, was interfering with sunday training which if members are reading is at 8:30am at wollys
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 28, 2007, 02:47:52 PM
JP's a hard man then  ::)
Donegal should have us buried, Toal is the only man up front, the ref is helping us out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 28, 2007, 02:50:27 PM
JP with a very dirty act, did not think the tackle on Duffy was that bad.
Agree Pint referee giving us a lot of soft decisions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 28, 2007, 05:32:06 PM
Agree mostly previous 2 posts, ref was with us all game, soft sending off for donegal, JP dirty act, where i think the Duffy incident wasn't dirty no doubt he was hurt.
I'm puzzled at the squad, yes i agree this is the time of year for blooding new talent and resting the players who hopefully are needed in August/September
But to call on Average Division 2 club players as possible future county players is strange, I'm sure if you picked every team in the top division you could find 2 players thats almost if not county standard and use them in McKenna cup(Allso maybe a few in Div2 that would be up to standard), not 'some' of those  on show today.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on January 28, 2007, 08:43:15 PM
whats this "JP dirty act"  - I couldn't see anything from the stands? Or did you guys take the normal easy option and brave the elements of your living room or McKenna's bar and make criticisms from there?

The team did well today for the level of experience.  Nippy played great, Peadar was outstanding, Malachy Macking took a free with his left which Paedar should have taken and was greedy at times.  Kevin O'Rourke didn't show as well as last week.  Duffy was elbowed I though but it was hard to tell from the 21.  JP played well - he has definitely showed well in this competition.

Does anyone know how Sean Agnew ended up carrying water to the Armagh team? What is his involvement with the team????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 28, 2007, 08:51:51 PM
Quotewhats this "JP dirty act"  - I couldn't see anything from the stands? Or did you guys take the normal easy option and brave the elements of your living room or McKenna's bar and make criticisms from there?
Kneeing a man twice in the back of the head, while he's on the ground, deserves criticism. I didn't know you weren't allowed to comment on a match if you weren't there.

At first viewing I was sure Duffy got hit with an elbow but it was shoulder to shoulder. 
I don't know how many times Mal Mackin give away the ball either, when is Joe going to realise that he's not county standard.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 28, 2007, 09:36:00 PM
The Iceman fair play to going up there, honestly I could not be bothered. But by watching on TV we had a better view than you i suspect. If you see the highlights you'll understand what the dirt was.

Disagree Pint, I think Mackin is a great player and willdefientely have a big role to play this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 29, 2007, 09:00:53 AM
That was a rite cruncher on duffy, it looked like an elbow but after the replays it was shoulder to shoulder! Would say there is significant shoulder/collarbone damage... and he could be out for a rite wee while.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on January 29, 2007, 09:06:51 AM
yeah seen the replays and JP is a bit of a hot head - though it was quite funny after the donegal man retaliated - it looked like he tried to pull JP's ears off! LOL

Pity for Duffy - two weeks in a row he has got a bad knock - hope he isn't out for too long.

Mal Mackin is a decent player - I think he is county standard but I also think he believes he is better than he really is.  I'll go back to my earlier point about the left footed free he took wen Peadar is the designated kicker - we would have went level with that point I think and maybe the game would have ended differently.

JP and Peadar deserve to keep their places for at least the League.  Nippy and Ciaran Toner deserve to be in their as back up to McGrane and McGeeney.  Don't know how many of the rest will get a place on the squad but well done to all of them for putting on the Jersey and playing their hearts out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 29, 2007, 09:59:09 AM
Toal and Swift were the stand out players for me today and will defientely be there on the league panel surely?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 29, 2007, 10:45:49 AM
Watched it from the sofa as well, thought they done well considering Donegal had a much stronger team. If I'm totally honest i thought Donegal would have beat us by a lot more but fair play to them lads when you think that Enda can't kick was the only recognised first teamer. Young Toal stood out the most. That was bound to be demoralising for Donegal even though they won when they couldn't beat that team by 8 points or more
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on January 29, 2007, 11:07:08 AM
Malachy Mackin my hole!  An under 8 could dispossess him with ease.  As far as I'm concerned he got his chance last year and didn't take it, however due to our current injury problems he'll probably be able to hang on for another while.

I thought young McClelland looked good yesterday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 29, 2007, 11:09:12 AM
Does anyone know how Sean Agnew ended up carrying water to the Armagh team? What is his involvement with the team????
Quote
If you were the supporter you think you are you would know that sean agnew was involved with the u21 team last season! yestardays Armagh team was practically the u21 team for this year. come on iceman, are you sure you weren't in mckennas wacthing the game !;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on January 29, 2007, 02:12:16 PM
Quote from: laughinpaddy on January 29, 2007, 11:09:12 AM
Does anyone know how Sean Agnew ended up carrying water to the Armagh team? What is his involvement with the team????
Quote
If you were the supporter you think you are you would know that sean agnew was involved with the u21 team last season! yestardays Armagh team was practically the u21 team for this year. come on iceman, are you sure you weren't in mckennas wacthing the game !;) ;)

My point is what has he got to do with the Armagh Football team?  Did he buy his way onto the team - because to my knowledge (although some may say limited) he wasn't a big noise in football in Armagh - he wasn't involved on any real level with his own team (Armagh Harps? I think) so why is he all of a sudden involved with the under 21s and if that wasn't bad enough - THE SENIORS!

Can anyone list his footballing achievments? Can anyone give me one good reason why he deserves to be involved with the team?

Answers on a postcard................
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Horatio Kane on January 29, 2007, 03:02:40 PM
Thought Armagh's best player was Enda, JP did well, Toal showed glimpses of class, but very disappointed in Armagh's distribution, especially when coming out of defence. Nippy was disposessed too easily and kept running into cul-de-sacs, but I would still persevere with him. The forwards (apart from Toal) ran around like headless chickens.

Realisticly very few on show yesterday will cut the mustard come c'ship time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 29, 2007, 03:43:29 PM
Why have most of the Armagh teams pulled out of the Ulster league? i thought it would be better than pre-season. Spirit you need to have a word with that fella of yours, whats he playing at buying rings and all that shit!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 29, 2007, 04:01:31 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 29, 2007, 03:43:29 PM
Why have most of the Armagh teams pulled out of the Ulster league? i thought it would be better than pre-season. Spirit you need to have a word with that fella of yours, whats he playing at buying rings and all that shit!!
what teams have pulled out? I've only heard that Silverbridge has pulled out. Have these teams been replaced by any other clubs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Travis T O Justice on January 29, 2007, 04:06:56 PM

Sorry to go off the slant here but I got castigated for daring to open 'another Armagh Thread' which has slowly degraded into shite. Anyone know where the Armagh Kildare game is being played on Sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 29, 2007, 04:14:14 PM
Quote from: laughinpaddy on January 29, 2007, 04:01:31 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 29, 2007, 03:43:29 PM
Why have most of the Armagh teams pulled out of the Ulster league? i thought it would be better than pre-season. Spirit you need to have a word with that fella of yours, whats he playing at buying rings and all that shit!!
what teams have pulled out? I've only heard that Silverbridge has pulled out. Have these teams been replaced by any other clubs?


Last page back lads have said Silverbridge, St Micks and the Ogs have pulled the pin.

I'm not sure where the match is on Sunday but Kildare usually play in Newbridge
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 29, 2007, 04:34:41 PM
Following a few gd displays in and around the middle, i reckon Loughran is under big pressure to get his place, despite starting his county career well his performances have dipped alot and must be worried. 
Also Mackin is a hard player to judge, though i reckon he isnt championship material, as seen yesterday his kicking/passing is poor, though he does work hard; def not a half forward!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 29, 2007, 04:48:20 PM
IMO young o' rourke looked out of his depth yestarday.  maybe one for the future,  as for Mackin never really rated him as county material but certianly good enough for his club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 29, 2007, 05:05:06 PM
your right jap.. i mean Ben lets hope not!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 29, 2007, 05:10:20 PM
Quoteyoung o' rourke looked out of his depth yestarday
Yeh possibly, but there was alot worse than him, like 2 of the latter subs- as my previous post said a average div 2 player, and somehow have mady county team, and if they are backbone of u21s, cant see them doing well, though i hope not
O rourke seemed to be doing alot rite apaprt from finishing, doesnt seem to hav the power to put them over the bar though surely that can be worked on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 29, 2007, 05:14:52 PM
Quote from: holylandsniper on January 29, 2007, 05:10:20 PM
Quoteyoung o' rourke looked out of his depth yestarday
Yeh possibly, but there was alot worse than him, like 2 of the latter subs- as my previous post said a average div 2 player, and somehow have mady county team, and if they are backbone of u21s, cant see them doing well, though i hope not
O rourke seemed to be doing alot rite apaprt from finishing, doesnt seem to hav the power to put them over the bar though surely that can be worked on
A good player but possibly to light to make an impact yet, although as i've already stated definitely one for the future
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on January 30, 2007, 04:27:00 PM
if only some of the taller and heavier players were as hard working or as hungry as this lad! He worked his ass off against Monaghan - wasn't as bust against Donegal but still worked hard.  Get the creatine and protein into him! Beef him up! I'm sure somebody can get their hands on a few growth hormones? LOL
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stoke the boilers! on January 31, 2007, 11:56:22 AM
Are the players who represented their universities already on the Armagh panel? Or are they liable to be cut along with some of the new faces? Watched Queens and UUJ both playing this year and was not overly impressed with Armagh lads on show -thought some of the new faces playing for Armagh looked better prospects.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on January 31, 2007, 01:13:10 PM
I would imagine they wouldnt be back till after the seigerson which would make this weeks game against Kildare very difficult.  I might be wrong mind
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 31, 2007, 01:35:24 PM
QUB and UUJ have a total as far as i know of 3 armagh players 2 of which are already on panel.
St Marys have 3 1 of which is on panel.. who wasnt impressive?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 31, 2007, 01:41:09 PM
I think these players will keep their places, however if push comes to shove then a lot will depend on how they play for their respective Uni's in the Sigerson,  the younger lads who played so well in the McKenna Cup may be over looked largely due to experience, but lets hope they get a fair crack at it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 31, 2007, 03:09:29 PM
probably sick of hearing this question but any idea of when the championship draw is??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: harps2002champs on January 31, 2007, 03:11:50 PM
Tonight at the county board meeting
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 31, 2007, 03:17:05 PM
some chat expected 2morro then...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: harps2002champs on January 31, 2007, 03:18:25 PM
no doubt! any guesses on the draw. Harps v Ogs  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 31, 2007, 03:22:11 PM
I think the draw is being made next wednesday, 7th February.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 31, 2007, 03:27:06 PM
not to be biased towards uni players
St Marys - Lavery possible future player, they reckon he played few decent games in McKenna Cup tho was impressed with big toner
QUB - Vernon - Bit like lavery tho he'd superb game v Derry and prob on experience would get ahead of allot of younger players(i.e mc clelland toner etc)
M o Rourke - would be better than mc sherry, forker, k o Rourke, witout a doubt 2 killeavy fellas,
UUJ Dyas - prob bit young yet tho will happen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 31, 2007, 03:41:05 PM
So when are the Draws then.
Tonight or next week?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 31, 2007, 03:50:45 PM
feb 7th for C'ship draws and league fixtures
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Dell Boy on January 31, 2007, 10:05:27 PM
I think the draws are tonite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on February 01, 2007, 07:58:27 AM
League & Championship draws next Wednesday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on February 01, 2007, 09:47:11 AM
Team for Sunday
Mc Kinney
mallon
toner
Mc Nulty
P Mc Creesh
Mc Keever
Mc Clelland
Vernon
Swift
Toal
Lavery
Martin OR
Mc Donnell
Mackin
Dyas
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on February 01, 2007, 10:45:53 AM
Is this THE starting team or your starting team?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on February 01, 2007, 11:05:49 AM

Interesting team. Good to see toner get a start at full back as it's a problem position and he has shown a lot of potential in the mckenna cup. I don't like the look of the half back line, especially against a hard running kildare team but i suppose these lads have to be thrown in at some time. swift and vernon is a mobile midfield pairing so long as they win enough ball... i'm not really sure who will compete with earley here though. from a dromintee point of view it's great to see young Dyas playing but i've never ever heard of him playing corner forward. even the times he lines out for the club in the half forward line, he rarely plays there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 01, 2007, 11:16:03 AM
Dermot Earley lorded midfield last year I thought.

Toner has been more impressive than Nippy in the fielding stakes thus far...but at least the personel is there to change it about! (Lavery Mackin & Toner all have played midfield)

I presume Lavery will be the 3rd midfielder & Dyas will come out leaving 2 man full forward line? I like big Mal, but his best work is done around midfield!

McCreesh or McClelland will have a good test against Doyle...the star player in Cross last year!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on February 01, 2007, 11:18:58 AM
Was JP dropped or is he injured?

Looks like Joe is using Mackin to be the new target man in Clarke's absence, and if that doesn't work expect to see Nippy moved into FF and Mackin moved outt he field.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on February 01, 2007, 11:21:11 AM
Heard nothing about JP, but he did come off against Donegal on Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on February 01, 2007, 11:29:45 AM
I believe he sufferred a dead leg that hasn't healed properly, also think that he will be used at some stage.
Joe maybe teaching him a lesson for the kick last sunday!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 01, 2007, 06:18:46 PM
QuoteMc Kinney
mallon
toner
Mc Nulty
P Mc Creesh
Mc Keever
Mc Clelland
Vernon
Swift
Toal
Lavery
Martin OR
Mc Donnell
Mackin
Dyas

I hate to be critical but Jesus Christ Stevie's shoulders will be sore sunday night.   ::)  Toal may help him out, he'll need to! He's the only other scoring forward. (Though I don't know too much about Lavery).
Mal mackin at full forward! FFS! He can't play full forward at club level (intermediate and division 2!).
Dyas at corner forward? I can only assume he'll be dropping back, to leave us with a full forward pairing of Stevie and Mackin, god help us. 
Half back line will be destroyed.
::)

I'm glad to see toner at full back though, we'll see what he's made of.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on February 01, 2007, 07:02:46 PM
whats toner made of

Bricks and mortar

big fella, glad to see he'll be given his chance
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardal on February 01, 2007, 09:00:52 PM
Has  Finnan Moriarty been invited back to the panel or what's the craic?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on February 02, 2007, 09:43:27 AM
I'd expect Joe to pull Lavery out to help the midfield pairing and Dyas will by pulled out to roam about the CHF position???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on February 02, 2007, 09:46:48 AM
Expect Vernon to play as a fourth half back, with lavery Dyas and swift, who may change with Makin to battle out mid-field.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 02, 2007, 10:10:21 AM
Yous lads would make some managers ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling (i'll decide)
Post by: Candyman on February 02, 2007, 10:21:48 AM
c**k ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on February 02, 2007, 10:33:53 AM

You boys could be reading way way way too much into it....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on February 02, 2007, 01:13:50 PM
Quote from: ardal on February 01, 2007, 09:00:52 PM
Has  Finnan Moriarty been invited back to the panel or what's the craic?

i think he's on the panel but he got injured in his first match for UUJ in the mckenna cup. he'll be out for a few weeks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling (i'll decide)
Post by: illdecide on February 02, 2007, 01:20:13 PM
Quote from: Candyman on February 02, 2007, 10:21:48 AM
c**k ;D


Hey Candyman i know a few lads from Cathedral Road and they tell me your fond of the c**k yourself, you cockbox :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on February 02, 2007, 02:20:38 PM
I love it....SIDEROADS!!!! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on February 02, 2007, 02:25:18 PM
Get a room lads & stop flirting with each other FFS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on February 02, 2007, 02:36:21 PM
on a serious note.... are there any more confirmed absences of Armagh clubs from the Ulster League???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on February 02, 2007, 02:38:53 PM
Newtown & Bridge are def out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on February 02, 2007, 03:40:27 PM
Quote from: full back on February 02, 2007, 02:38:53 PM
Newtown & Bridge are def out
Y
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on February 02, 2007, 03:51:42 PM
Dont have a feckin clue
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on February 02, 2007, 04:53:43 PM
Dromintee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 02, 2007, 06:04:25 PM
Quote from: full back on February 02, 2007, 02:38:53 PM
Newtown & Bridge are def out
I told you the bridge was out a week ago!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on February 02, 2007, 09:23:52 PM
has jp donnelly moved from the harps to the ogs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on February 03, 2007, 11:14:49 AM
Niobody moves from harps to ogs surely. Whty woud he>?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on February 03, 2007, 12:16:04 PM
lad back through the pages boys - JP gets a whole page of his own nearly.......

Is Vernon named to play on Sunday? Because I haven't seen his name mentioned anywhere but here......

Surprised to see Dyas on - didn't think he was quite ready but hey who am I to argue - maybe I will have a word with Seany Agnew - he'll sort it out...LOL
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on February 03, 2007, 03:55:18 PM
SOUTH ARMAGH GAA DIVISIONAL BOARD CHAMPIONSHIP DRAWS – 2007

FEILE NA nÓg

Preliminary Round
Silverbridge v Killeavey
Shane O'Neill's v Forkhill

Quarter-Finals
1 Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen
2 Mullaghbawn v St Patrick's
3 Shane O'Neill's/Forkhill v Dromintee
4 St Joseph's v Sillverbridge/Killeavey

Semi-Finals
1 v 2
3 v 4


UNDER-12 CHAMPIONSHIP – GROUP A

Quarter-Finals
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn
Shane O'Neill's v Killeavey

Semi-Finals
Crossmaglen v St Patrick's
Dromintee/Mullaghbawn v Shane O'Neill's/Killeavey


UNDER-12 CHAMPIONSHIP – GROUP B

Preliminary Round
Dorsey Emmett's v Whitecross
Corrinshego v Belleek

Quarter-Finals
1 Carrickcruppen v Forkhill
2 St Michael's v Corrinshego/Belleek
3 St Joseph's v Dorsey Emmett's/Whitecross
4 Silverbridge v Culloville

Semi-Finals
1 v 2
3 v 4


UNDER-14 CHAMPIONSHIP – GROUP A

Preliminary Round
Crossmaglen v Mullaghbawn
St Patrick's v Forkhill

Quarter-Finals
1 Silverbridge v St Patrick's/Forkhill
2 Dromintee v Shane O'Neill's
3 Killeavey v Crossmaglen/Mullaghbawn
4 Carrickcruppen v St Joseph's

Semi-Finals
1 v 3
2 v 4


UNDER-14 CHAMPIONSHIP – GROUP B

Quarter-Final
Culloville v Belleek

Semi-Finals
Culloville/Belleek v Whitecross
Newtown Emmett's v Corrinshego


UNDER-16 CHAMPIONSHIP

Preliminary Round
Carrickcruppen v Silverbridge

Quarter-Finals
1 Shane O'Neill's v Forkhill
2 Mullaghbawn v Carrickcruppen/Silverbridge
3 Dromintee v Crossmaglen
4 St Patrick's v Killeavey

Semi-Finals
1 v 3
2 v 4


UNDER-16 PLATE COMPETITION

Quarter-Final
Belleek v Culloville

Semi-Finals
St Brigid's v Belleek/Culloville
Corrinshego v Newtown Emmett's


'B' CHAMPIONSHIP

Preliminary Round
Whitecross v St Patrick's
Mullaghbawn v St Michael's

Quarter-Finals
1 Carrickcruppen v Killeavey
2 Silverbridge v Crossmaglen
3 Mullaghbawn/St Michael's v Whitecross/St Patrick's
4 Culloville v Dromintee

Semi-Finals
1 v 2
3 v 4


VENUES
All games up to and including Quarter-Finals shall be played at 1st named teams home venue.

Semi-Finals and Final shall be played at neutreal venues unless Cross are involved.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on February 03, 2007, 05:09:28 PM
Armagh4SamAgain,
Where did you get this information from?  It is very much similar to what has appeared on another website namely
www.orchardcounty.com
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on February 05, 2007, 12:01:26 PM
Any reports on the 'Nab game?
Says on Orchard County 4 Stewartstown lads got the line
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 05, 2007, 07:36:54 PM
Delighted to see ballymacnab win. 
Does anyone know what age of a fella McCone is, he impressed me this year when we played them.

Before the championship draws have we any early predictions?  Have we any teams regrading?
I think the intermediate championship will be the most exciting, I expect the senior one to be as predictable as ever.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on February 05, 2007, 10:44:14 PM
The Missing Cross players.

Plenty of talk about the county team missing their Cross contingent of 8(?) players. I would reckon Aaron, Francie, Oisin, John Mc, Tony Mc and big Hearty will have to be brought back into the team.

But will these guys save our bacon in the championship?

Hmmm, could be the year to book that European holiday in July or August that your good lady always wanted.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on February 05, 2007, 10:58:48 PM
Quote from: Take Your Points on February 05, 2007, 10:48:51 PM
QuoteI would reckon Aaron, Francie, Oisin, John Mc, Tony Mc and big Hearty will have to be brought back into the team.

You forgot Stephen, Tony and Paul Kernan and Michael McNamee.

Was thinking just of the boys that would get on the starting 15, which would also probably eliminate one of the McEntees. The unlucky one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on February 06, 2007, 07:36:04 AM

The mcs won't be back unfortunately. oisin will add to the scoring power of course and francie will add steel to the defence but there's noone else to come in to actually improve the team.

I can't see how mcnamee will make the panel now. this has probably been hs quietest year in 2 or 3 years and he wasn't county material before now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 08, 2007, 08:19:52 AM
SENIOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP

1st Round
Granemore v Killeavey
Mullaghbawn v Maghery
St Michael's v Dromintee
Tir na nÓg v Clan na Gael
Harps v Crossmaglen
Carrickcruppen v Clann Eireann
Byes:- Ballymacnab and Pearse Og


INTERMEDITATE FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP

1st Round
Madden v Lissummon
St Peter's v Silverbridge
Culloville v Keady
Annaghmore v An Port Mor
Clonmore v Crossmaglen II
Ballyhegan v Wolfe Tones
St Paul's v Whitecross
St Patrick's v Sarsfields


JUNIOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP

1st Round
Forkhill v Collegeland
Phelim Brady's v Grange
Belleek v Derrynoose
Shane O'Neill's v Middletown
Tullysaran v Eire Og
Corrinshego v Clady
Mullaghbrack v O'Hanlon's
Bye:- Dorsey Emmett's


UNDER-21 FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP

1st Round
Granemore v St John's
Sarsfields v Eire Og
Clann Eireann v Whitecross
St Peter's v Crossmaglen
St Paul's v Silverbridge
Keady v Culloville
Madden v Kevin Barry's
Shane O'Neill's v Mullaghbawn
Harps v Carrickcruppen
Tir na nÓg v Maghery
Byes:- Clan na Gael, Dromintee, Killeavey, Pearse Og, St Patrick's and Wolfe Tones


MINOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP

Preliminary Round
St Peter's v Tir na nÓg

1st Round
Oliver Plunkett's v St Peter's/Tir na nÓg
Wolfe Tones v Shane O'Neill's
Eire Og v Crossmaglen
Clady v Ballyhegan
Sarsfields v Granemore
St John's v Silverbridge
Ballymacnab v Pearse Og
Clann Eireann v Derrynoose
Killeavey v Culloville
Clan na Gael v Tullysaran
Keady v Corrinshego
Madden v St Enda's
Maghery v St Brigid's
Harps v Dromintee
St Patrick's v St Paul's
Middletown v Carrickcruppen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 08, 2007, 08:30:13 AM
Looks like well make it passed the 1st round this year then. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 08, 2007, 08:37:51 AM
The Harps and cross should be a nice game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 08, 2007, 08:52:11 AM
That for sure is the tie of the round (Harps v Cross), no better time to get them than the first round....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on February 08, 2007, 09:32:52 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on February 08, 2007, 08:30:13 AM
Looks like well make it passed the 1st round this year then. 

Even you's cant mess this one up. Depends on armagh but you mighten have a c'ship game till after the summer.

Quote from: illdecide on February 08, 2007, 08:52:11 AM
That for sure is the tie of the round (Harps v Cross), no better time to get them than the first round....

Might as well pit ourselfs against the best, could be defeating the all ireland champions, that would be nice.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on February 08, 2007, 09:54:03 AM
what a challenge!!! better now than in the final though... ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on February 08, 2007, 10:48:31 AM

A bland enough draw i suppose, leaving all of the competitive (if there are any outside of cross) still there for the quarters.

I don't like our draw myself but we should be capable of getting through. Harps will be in a great position against cross, especially if the first round is played in early may as its supposed to be.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 08, 2007, 07:38:33 PM
good draw for us. Looking towards quarter final  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stoke the boilers! on February 11, 2007, 01:34:30 PM
draw
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 12, 2007, 01:19:59 PM
Do any of you's lads know what date the first round of league fixtures are for?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on February 12, 2007, 09:07:35 PM
TYP you're a bit hard on Westmeath there, but have the right idea using the gif of the table , the table feature on this board is tricky.



------------ P  W  D  L    F    A  Diff Pts
Westmeath22004-212-18   9 4
Kildare 21101-230-24   2 3
Louth 21012-252-22   3 2
Armagh21011-190-23  -1 2
Laois 21011-171-18  -1 2
Derry21011-213-17  -2 2
Down 20111-273-25  -4 1
Galway20020-140-20  -6 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on February 14, 2007, 03:01:37 PM
Any body heading to casement tonight to see the nab and coleraine reply?  Has the makings of a good one especially after the drawn game.

the Nab boys are bound to be feeling the strain of having so many tough games in such a short space of time.  But hi i wouldn't mind swapping places with them!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on February 14, 2007, 03:29:50 PM
Sorry, out with the wife, she'd take some look at me if I was going to belfast to watch are country neighbours.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 14, 2007, 07:42:27 PM
Six inch nail
QuotePints, hes not banned from half enough. (mackin)

You mentioned a while back on this thread about the suspensions dealt out to Cullyhanna, I didn't comment at the time as I thought I would hold fire until I heard for sure what the suspensions were.  Yet again the Armagh County Board have shown themselves to be a gutless showers of shites!  With all the violence that day, Cullyhanna never picked up one meaningful suspension as most them are being served over the winter period.  As I said at the time, the neutrals were the people to listen to and they all said that the scenes were a disgrace.  However, the county board have managed to drag the thing out from September until January (while all but one of their players in the dock coutinued playing) and then hand out a couple of suspensions which will only serve to encourage Cullyhanna and other clubs to resort to violence when things are going against you.

Are there any neutrals on the board who were at the match, what are your opinions?  You may think that I should let sleeping dogs lie, however as the suspensions have only recently been handed out I think that this is a very relevant topic.

Laois and Donegal county boards have recently taken drastic steps to stamp out this sort of shite in their counties, and I felt that left it easy for our county board to do something similar.  Its a pit that they don't feel that this shite needs to be stamped out in Armagh.

Laughin Paddy
Quote
Wasn't at the match myself Six Inch Nail but from all accounts it was a disgrace.  You mentioned that the County board is a gutless shower of shites, i couldn't agree more, but from my point of view these two teams involved were never going to recieve meaning ful suspensions, -without sounding anti-south armagh- due to the fact that the large proportion of the county board who hold high officialdom are from south armagh.  imo if the two teams involved had of been mid or north armagh teams the suspensions would have been more severe.

I've just moved that off the Louth V Armagh thread because someone will be giving out  ::)

anyways, paddy you're talking there like two teams needed punished.  No harm to you but you've obviously no idea what went on that day. Silverbridge 6 points up with 4 minutes to play, would you tell me why we'd want to fight? FFS we're not even a physical team, never mind a dirty one.  The Bridge received correspondence from the county board about 4 weeks after the row stating that we couldn't expect any punishment because our boys didn't do anything. 

There was a while after the game it was rumoured nothing would be done because officials said they couldn't pin point the culprits (I still don't know if that was true or not).  I'd great hope when I heard reports went in and what I heard was in them.   Mal Mackin was reported to have struck 9 times.  Maybe he got off so lightly because he was ringing players apologising and crying that he was "sent out to do it". :D You have to laugh! What gets me is that I didn't notice Mal in the main row nor did I notice him doing anything (though I heard later he was stuck in it). However...Cormac McEvoy, who I think would have played with UUJ with Mackin?? and a fella who I've never seen lift his fists, on or off a football field, got caught up in the main row and had the blood pumping out of his face, the manager stripped off his shirt to stop it and as Cormac was kneeling down along the fence with Fitzpatrick's shirt to his face he was attacked by that thug casey and almost pushed through the wire of the stand. It was after this that big brave mal plucked up enough courage to run around the field after McEvoy throwing thumps at him. 

Ciaran McKeever, who was left injured 2 minutes into the first game when he ran 20 yards to clatter into the back of one of the lightest and youngest players on the field, was reported to have been contantly on the field, with his crutches, and refused to move for any offical or the referee.  He was then reported to have went to the intermediate final and threaten the officals who put in the reports about the game, he told them what he'd do with them if he ever seen them in Cullyhanna and so on.  This is the new Geezer? Don't make me f**king laugh. 
All of St. Pat's players, apart from young Reel that plays in the middle of the field and their keeper was reported for fighting. Not one of our players was reported, what does that tell you paddy?

Pure calculated thuggery went on that day and anyone who was there will tell you the same.
Just what I saw was...
Damien McCann jumped by 3 players and beaten on the ground
Cormac McEvoy being attacked 3 times.
Daniel McKenna, part of the management, attacked as he was helping McEvoy.
Ryan Hamill decked.
Brendan Bellew decked.
St. Pat's manager running in on the blind side of Liam Campbell, hitting him a thump and running to the ref.
Barry Campbell left with bite marks on his chest and fingers.
Nicolas Traynor headbutted - he'd to receive stitches.
Anthony Malley - going to the aid of Traynor, knocked to the ground and receiving several kicks to the face until Jimmy McKee dives in to protect him, rushed to the hospital. 

I've seen many brawls at games and players losing tempers, players being decked and so on but this was not like any of that and they've basically got off without punishment.  Even look at the high profile brawls there was last year and all the fuss that was raised over any of them, not one of them even came close to being as bad as what went on that day. 



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on February 14, 2007, 09:12:45 PM
Any word as to how Ballymacnab and Coleraine game ended tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 14, 2007, 09:40:14 PM
beat by 3 points and missed a penalty according to someone on orchardcounty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on February 14, 2007, 09:54:19 PM
Thanks Pint
Disappointing result.
Title: Championship Dates & Venues
Post by: full back on February 15, 2007, 08:22:55 AM
Taken from Orchard County

ARMAGH SENIOR, INTERMEDIATE & JUNIOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP DETAILS – 2007


Friday 18 May

IFC – 1st Round
Annaghmore v An Port Mor (7.30) at Ballyhegan
Lissummon v Madden (7.30) at Mullaghbrack

JFC – 1st Round
Clady v Corrinshego (7.30) at Belleek


Saturday 19 May

IFC – 1st Round
St Paul's v Whitecross (7.30) at Páirc Na bPiarsaigh Óga

JFC – 1st Round
Eire Og v Tullysaran (7.30) at Portadown
Mullaghbrack v O'Hanlon's (7.30) at Lissummon


Sunday 20 May

IFC – 1st Round
Clonmore v Crossmaglen II (2.00) at Ballymacnab
St Peter's v Silverbridge (3.45) at Ballymacnab
Culloville v Keady (7.30) at Newtownhamilton


Friday 25 May

JFC – 1st Round
Collegeland v Forkhill (7.30) at Mullaghbrack
Grange v Phelim Brady's (7.30) at Madden


Saturday 26 May

JFC – 1st Round
Belleek v Derrynoose (6.00) at Granemore
Middletown v Shane O'Neill's (7.30) at Granemore


Friday 1 June

SFC – 1st Round
Clan na Gael v Tir na nÓg (8.00) at Maghery
Crossmaglen v Harps (8.00) at Keady


Saturday 2 June

SFC – 1st Round
Carrickcruppen v Clann Eireann (5.30) at Páirc Na bPiarsaigh Óga
Dromintee v St Michael's (8.00) at Crossmaglen

IFC – 1st Round
Ballyhegan v Wolfe Tones (8.00) at Portadown


Sunday 3 June

IFC – 1st Round
St Patrick's v Sarsfields (2.00) at Abbey Park

SFC – 1st Round
Maghery v Mullaghbawn (3.45) at Abbey Park
Granemore v Killeavey (8.00) at Whitecross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on February 15, 2007, 09:06:29 AM
Laughin Paddy
Quote
Wasn't at the match myself Six Inch Nail but from all accounts it was a disgrace.  You mentioned that the County board is a gutless shower of shites, i couldn't agree more, but from my point of view these two teams involved were never going to recieve meaning ful suspensions, -without sounding anti-south armagh- due to the fact that the large proportion of the county board who hold high officialdom are from south armagh.  imo if the two teams involved had of been mid or north armagh teams the suspensions would have been more severe.

I've just moved that off the Louth V Armagh thread because someone will be giving out  ::)

anyways, paddy you're talking there like two teams needed punished.  No harm to you but you've obviously no idea what went on that day. Silverbridge 6 points up with 4 minutes to play, would you tell me why we'd want to fight? FFS we're not even a physical team, never mind a dirty one.  The Bridge received correspondence from the county board about 4 weeks after the row stating that we couldn't expect any punishment because our boys didn't do anything. 

There was a while after the game it was rumoured nothing would be done because officials said they couldn't pin point the culprits (I still don't know if that was true or not).  I'd great hope when I heard reports went in and what I heard was in them.   Mal Mackin was reported to have struck 9 times.  Maybe he got off so lightly because he was ringing players apologising and crying that he was "sent out to do it". :D You have to laugh! What gets me is that I didn't notice Mal in the main row nor did I notice him doing anything (though I heard later he was stuck in it). However...Cormac McEvoy, who I think would have played with UUJ with Mackin?? and a fella who I've never seen lift his fists, on or off a football field, got caught up in the main row and had the blood pumping out of his face, the manager stripped off his shirt to stop it and as Cormac was kneeling down along the fence with Fitzpatrick's shirt to his face he was attacked by that thug casey and almost pushed through the wire of the stand. It was after this that big brave mal plucked up enough courage to run around the field after McEvoy throwing thumps at him. 

Ciaran McKeever, who was left injured 2 minutes into the first game when he ran 20 yards to clatter into the back of one of the lightest and youngest players on the field, was reported to have been contantly on the field, with his crutches, and refused to move for any offical or the referee.  He was then reported to have went to the intermediate final and threaten the officals who put in the reports about the game, he told them what he'd do with them if he ever seen them in Cullyhanna and so on.  This is the new Geezer? Don't make me f**king laugh. 
All of St. Pat's players, apart from young Reel that plays in the middle of the field and their keeper was reported for fighting. Not one of our players was reported, what does that tell you paddy?

Pure calculated thuggery went on that day and anyone who was there will tell you the same.
Just what I saw was...
Damien McCann jumped by 3 players and beaten on the ground
Cormac McEvoy being attacked 3 times.
Daniel McKenna, part of the management, attacked as he was helping McEvoy.
Ryan Hamill decked.
Brendan Bellew decked.
St. Pat's manager running in on the blind side of Liam Campbell, hitting him a thump and running to the ref.
Barry Campbell left with bite marks on his chest and fingers.
Nicolas Traynor headbutted - he'd to receive stitches.
Anthony Malley - going to the aid of Traynor, knocked to the ground and receiving several kicks to the face until Jimmy McKee dives in to protect him, rushed to the hospital. 

I've seen many brawls at games and players losing tempers, players being decked and so on but this was not like any of that and they've basically got off without punishment.  Even look at the high profile brawls there was last year and all the fuss that was raised over any of them, not one of them even came close to being as bad as what went on that day. 
[/quote]
Sorry pints
I apologise for my ignorance to not knowing the full facts.  After reading your post it seems like a scene out of a movie.  I can't believe McKeever threatened the officials thats a very serious action and should be rightfully suspended, from club and county we don't need thugs like that tarnishing are name on the county scene!  I hope that this is dealt with properly by the county board, and if not it should be brought to a higher athourity this type of thuggery has no place in gaelic football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tyrone-r-shite on February 15, 2007, 10:43:07 AM
Anybody got a report on the Nab game please?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on February 15, 2007, 11:03:20 AM
Thats my point Laughinpaddy, the issue is deemed to have been dealt with.  Suspensions ranging from 2 weeks to 6 months (for two braves who thought biting belonged on a football field).  One of those individuals was sent off and his six months are almost up.  The other wasn't sent off and was fit play the rest of the season, his suspension will be up in May, 1 month into the new season.  The rest of them (7 more in total as I understand), were suspended but served no suspension as it was during the close season, only one player was sent off so the rest were fit to play on until the end of the season.

Malachy Mackin, after hitting Cormac McEvoy actually chased a 10 stone 17 year old up the field to get a thump at him - very brave!  It also seems that the threat by McKeever worked a treat!

Bottom line, the county board don't have the balls to take a stance against this and we are all therefore allowed to kick the living shite out of each other on a weekly basis.

On another issue, thats a pity that Ballymacnab were beaten.  They seem like a civil bunch of lads, we played them 3 times last year and they were 3 good flowing games with no issues.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 15, 2007, 06:11:13 PM
QuoteI can't believe McKeever threatened the officials thats a very serious action and should be rightfully suspended, from club and county we don't need thugs like that tarnishing are name on the county scene!  I hope that this is dealt with properly by the county board, and if not it should be brought to a higher athourity this type of thuggery has no place in gaelic football.
I don't think Ciaran McKeever got anything, six inch nail?

If it was up to me neither him nor Mal mackin would ever wear a county jersey again, and they'll never have my support, orange jersey or not. 

After the reports went in there was talk that they were sending it on to the Ulster council, but they didn't. I also know that one of the officals at the game said later that if it was up to him the club would receive a 3 year ban and the senior team a 5 year ban, some chance. I could live with the suspensions if they were banned from the chamionship this year, but they're not.   The case is dealt with paddy, that's it, it's over. They'll be great craic at our games this year  ::)

Quote
On another issue, thats a pity that Ballymacnab were beaten.  They seem like a civil bunch of lads, we played them 3 times last year and they were 3 good flowing games with no issues.
Here here, genuinely sorry to see them beat myself.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on February 15, 2007, 09:19:40 PM
Pints, I could be wrong about McKeever, I thought he received a token suspension.  I agree with you that neither him or Mackin will be getting my support either.

I thought that a few more people on the board might have an opinion on this, but is seems that the county boards tactic of delaying and therefore diluting everyones opinion seems to have worked nicely!  Even on this board.  Shameful!!  O to have a couple of county players and achieve the status of Cullyhanna - above the rules.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 15, 2007, 09:24:10 PM
QuotePints, I could be wrong about McKeever, I thought he received a token suspension.  I agree with you that neither him or Mackin will be getting my support either.
I didn't hear his name mentioned so I assumed he hadn't, maybe he did.
I don't think anyone on the board was at the game, I remember at the time it was only "A boy from county armagh" that was at it, as a neutral, but I think we lost him in the move to the new board. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on February 15, 2007, 09:33:51 PM
End of story then, isn't it Pints!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 15, 2007, 09:51:34 PM
Quote from: Six Inch Nail on February 15, 2007, 09:33:51 PM
End of story then, isn't it Pints!
It is but f**k them.  That day did that team more good than harm. We get the same results against them this year, we'll still be the ones laughing 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 17, 2007, 12:44:30 AM
The County board not having the balls? Now there is a surprise.

I know a few of the Bridge lads, held their dignity thorughout the brawl by all accounts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on February 19, 2007, 09:36:49 AM
Anyone at the hurling yesterday in Keady, a 1 point defeat to Carlow, tough to take, but a creditable result, Who was top scorers/performers etc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on February 19, 2007, 09:57:02 AM
I see the draw for the first 3 games of the leagues have been made.
Anyone have all the fixtures?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on February 19, 2007, 10:10:24 AM
Harps 1st 3 are:

Home v Mullaghbawn
Away v Clans
Away v Cross

Nice easy start.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on February 19, 2007, 11:10:06 AM
Where did you get the fixtures?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on February 19, 2007, 12:18:45 PM
Club Secretary pinned up the fixtures in the club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 19, 2007, 01:08:37 PM
Clanns first 3 games are away to Cross home to Harps and then away to Ogs. nice easy start (my bollocks) considering they haven't even started to train yet. I take it all the rest of the clubs are pre-season training?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 19, 2007, 01:27:58 PM
15th April         Pearse Óg V Maghery
22nd April         Mullabawn V Pearse Óg
29th April         Pearse Óg V Clan Na Gael
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ArchieAngel on February 19, 2007, 01:41:36 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on February 19, 2007, 09:36:49 AM
Anyone at the hurling yesterday in Keady, a 1 point defeat to Carlow, tough to take, but a creditable result, Who was top scorers/performers etc.


I was at it. Armagh were helped by a poor Carlow performance in the 2nd half who also had a man put to the line. They had the chances to bury Carlow in the second half and but they decided to take points from two late frees which a blind man could have seen should have been dropped into the edge of the small square. They were crazy decisions at a time when only a goal would do.

Armagh midfield was poor enough as McCormack had to bale them out a few times and they have some issues in corner back as Mallo is just too small against a bigger corner back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on February 19, 2007, 01:49:38 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 19, 2007, 01:08:37 PM
Clanns first 3 games are away to Cross home to Harps and then away to Ogs. nice easy start (my bollocks) considering they haven't even started to train yet. I take it all the rest of the clubs are pre-season training?

Oh yes. Poyntzpass had a major session in the Dyke last Friday night. Three players still missing in action.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 19, 2007, 02:50:42 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 19, 2007, 01:49:38 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 19, 2007, 01:08:37 PM
Clanns first 3 games are away to Cross home to Harps and then away to Ogs. nice easy start (my bollocks) considering they haven't even started to train yet. I take it all the rest of the clubs are pre-season training?

Oh yes. Poyntzpass had a major session in the Dyke last Friday night. Three players still missing in action.

Thats impressive, keep her lit. Were you's celebrating something or just the annual piss up :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on February 19, 2007, 03:37:02 PM
Quote from: corn02 on February 17, 2007, 12:44:30 AM
The County board not having the balls? Now there is a surprise.

I know a few of the Bridge lads, held their dignity thorughout the brawl by all accounts.


Thanks Corn, I agree, although for all the punishment that was dished out we might as well have got stuck in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 20, 2007, 08:20:04 AM
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE FIXTURES FOR APRIL 2007


Sunday 15 April

Division I (2.00)
Crossmaglen v Clan Na Gael
Culloville v Whitecross
Harps v Mullaghbawn
Pearse Og v Maghery
Tir na nÓg v Dromintee

Division II (2.00)
Annaghmore v Carrickcruppen
Keady v Granemore
Killeavey v Ballymacnab
St Patrick's v St Michael's
St Peter's v Wolfe Tones
Silverbridge v Clann Eireann

Division III (2.00)
Ballyhegan v Clonmore
Lissummon v Crossmaglen II
Madden v Clady
An Port Mor v Middletown
St Paul's v Tullysaran
Sarsfields v Collegeland

Division IV (2.00)
Derrynoose v Mullaghbrack
Dorsey Emmett's v Forkhill
Eire Og v O'Hanlon's
Phelim Brady's v Grange
Shane O'Neill's v Corrinshego
Belleek a bye


Sunday 22 April

Division I (2.00)
Whitecross v Crossmaglen
Clan Na Gael v Harps
Dromintee v Culloville
Maghery v Tir na nÓg
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og

Division II (2.00)
Ballymacnab v St Peter's
Carrickcruppen v Killeavey
Clann Eireann v Keady
Granemore v St Patrick's
St Michael's v Annaghmore
Wolfe Tones v Silverbridge

Division III (2.00)
Clady v St Paul's
Clonmore v Madden
Collegeland v Lissummon
Crossmaglen II v An Port Mor
Middletown v Ballyhegan
Tullysaran v Sarsfields

Division IV (2.00)
Belleek v Shane O'Neill's
Corrinshego v Eire Og
Forkhill v Derrynoose
Mullaghbrack v Phelim Brady's
O'Hanlon's v Dorsey Emmett's
Grange a bye


Sunday 29 April

Division I (2.00)
Whitecross v Dromintee
Crossmaglen v Harps
Culloville v Maghery
Pearse Og v Clan Na Gael
Tir na nÓg v Mullaghbawn

Division II (2.00)
Annaghmore v Granemore
Ballymacnab v Carrickcruppen
Keady v Wolfe Tones
Killeavey v St Michael's
St Patrick's v Clann Eireann
St Peter's v Silverbridge

Division III (2.00)
Ballyhegan v Crossmaglen II
Clady v Clonmore
Lissummon v Tullysaran
Madden v Middletown
An Port Mor v Collegeland
St Paul's v Sarsfields

Division IV (2.00)
Derrynoose v O'Hanlon's
Dorsey Emmett's v Corrinshego
Eire Og v Belleek
Grange v Mullaghbrack
Phelim Brady's v Forkhill
Shane O'Neill's a bye
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 20, 2007, 10:37:10 AM
Well Pint i c you's lads have 3 Lurgan teams the first 3 games, the Tones and Clann Eireann are tricky games but the Peters are rank. Home advantage may count against Clann Eireann but away to the Tones will be tricky and it wouldn't matter where you played St Peters
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on February 20, 2007, 10:40:07 AM
Can we just end the league now as its possibly the only time I will ever see Annaghmore top of division 2.  On a serious note what are your guys predictions for who will go up and down this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on February 20, 2007, 12:13:56 PM
Culloville, Mullaghbawn to go down from Div 1.
Killeavy, St.Michaels up from Div 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: heganboy on February 20, 2007, 03:38:15 PM
whitecross in division I Ballyhegan in Division III
the shame of it.
An Port Mor, Ballyhegan and Middletown should all be doing better than they are last year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on February 20, 2007, 03:51:39 PM
Mullaghbawn will never go down but Kileavy and Silverbridge should go up. Ballyhagen would need to get there act together if they want to bounce back up. Div 3 is tough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 20, 2007, 05:42:20 PM
QuoteWell Pint i c you's lads have 3 Lurgan teams the first 3 games, the Tones and Clann Eireann are tricky games but the Peters are rank. Home advantage may count against Clann Eireann but away to the Tones will be tricky and it wouldn't matter where you played St Peters
Had Clann Eireann in the first game last year and St. Peter's in the second. The St. Peter's aren't the greatest but it did take us a last minute goal to win the last game we played against them, and we were woeful that day.  Had two really good tight games with Clann Eireann but we came out the wrong side of them.  After last year, to keep momentum going I think we have to go up this year.

I can't see culloville coping in division 1, but I hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on February 20, 2007, 08:27:44 PM
Culloville will struggle all rite. Do you not like them Pints after last year??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 21, 2007, 09:48:36 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 20, 2007, 05:42:20 PM
QuoteWell Pint i c you's lads have 3 Lurgan teams the first 3 games, the Tones and Clann Eireann are tricky games but the Peters are rank. Home advantage may count against Clann Eireann but away to the Tones will be tricky and it wouldn't matter where you played St Peters
Had Clann Eireann in the first game last year and St. Peter's in the second. The St. Peter's aren't the greatest but it did take us a last minute goal to win the last game we played against them, and we were woeful that day.  Had two really good tight games with Clann Eireann but we came out the wrong side of them.  After last year, to keep momentum going I think we have to go up this year.

I can't see culloville coping in division 1, but I hope I'm wrong.

Clann Eireann have a new manager this year so its hard to say what he'll do for them, they have quality players but most of them fail to step up to the mark when their needed. St Peters have a very young side and only one real danger man "David Wilson". As for the Tones on their day they are capable of beating most teams they are a very workman like team with no outstanding players. With the momentum the Bridge had from last year i expect them to be challenging for promotion at the end of the year. Division 2 looks very competive this year, should be interesting. Would you be happy with 4pts for the first 3 games?

What did you think of DM going back to Armagh, he told us last night after training. Armagh could be doing with him this year!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on February 21, 2007, 10:08:08 AM
What do you think of Marsden illdecide?
I mean from a club perspective, not a county one
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 21, 2007, 10:51:12 AM
Quote from: full back on February 21, 2007, 10:08:08 AM
What do you think of Marsden illdecide?
I mean from a club perspective, not a county one

He's a prefectionest in every thing he does, would never cut a corner in a drill if he's told to run to a cone or line thats where he runs to not a yard less. Try marking him in training "nightmare" chases after every thing never gives up. And he is very good at encouraging players after they make a mistake.

He did take a lot of flak a few years ago from Clans men saying he never put anything back into the club and that prob was one of the reasons why he quit Armagh but to me they were just jealous P***Ks. Ok we only had him for about 5 games a year and seldom at training but thats the price you pay when your team mate's a county man. And because he wasn't scoring 1-08 every time he played for the Clans people were saying "he can turn it on for Armagh but not the Clans". But the effort he has put into the club over the last 3 years have been brilliant!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on February 21, 2007, 10:55:50 AM
Are you a politician illdecde?  :D
You didnt answer the question.
What about from a club persoective, what sort of impact will it have?
Bound to be a massive loss
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 21, 2007, 11:43:31 AM
Quote from: full back on February 21, 2007, 10:55:50 AM
Are you a politician illdecde?  :D
You didnt answer the question.
What about from a club persoective, what sort of impact will it have?
Bound to be a massive loss

It will be a big loss, but there is nothing you can do about it only knuckle down and play away. Clans loss is Armaghs gain, it's hard to say what impact it will have but it certainly won't improve the situation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on February 21, 2007, 11:52:49 AM
Is he not involved in your management team!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 21, 2007, 12:00:31 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on February 21, 2007, 11:52:49 AM
Is he not involved in your management team!

He was sort off last year, but any more chief...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on February 21, 2007, 03:25:40 PM
I herd Cross play Harps in the first round of the championship. Has any body got the rest of the draws??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on February 21, 2007, 03:30:03 PM
Look back a few pages ther big lad,

Wots wrong got another 2 weeks sick!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on February 21, 2007, 03:36:04 PM
Sorry. Got it now. Never back yet!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on February 21, 2007, 05:06:30 PM
Just heard that our auld pals in Cullyhanna appealed their suspensions to The Ulster Council and got off scott free.  The f**king bastards, its the only way I can describe them at the minute.  Its great to know that we not only have a gutless shower of c***ts running the county, it seems that they are a disorganised, gutless shower of c***ts!  Its enough to question your whole association with the GAA.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on February 21, 2007, 05:56:12 PM
I'm sure your own club representatives on the County Board will be delighted with your remarks about them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on February 21, 2007, 06:09:13 PM
Can anyone post a link or other information as regards Under 12 Go-games that operate in Mid Armagh,
The rules
Pitch Size
any other information


cheers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 21, 2007, 06:48:36 PM
Quote from: Six Inch Nail on February 21, 2007, 05:06:30 PM
Just heard that our auld pals in Cullyhanna appealed their suspensions to The Ulster Council and got off scott free.  The f**king bastards, its the only way I can describe them at the minute.  Its great to know that we not only have a gutless shower of c***ts running the county, it seems that they are a disorganised, gutless shower of c***ts!  Its enough to question your whole association with the GAA.
Are you f**king joking?! You have to be joking?! How did they get off?

illdecide
Quote
Clann Eireann have a new manager this year so its hard to say what he'll do for them, they have quality players but most of them fail to step up to the mark when their needed. St Peters have a very young side and only one real danger man "David Wilson". As for the Tones on their day they are capable of beating most teams they are a very workman like team with no outstanding players. With the momentum the Bridge had from last year i expect them to be challenging for promotion at the end of the year. Division 2 looks very competive this year, should be interesting. Would you be happy with 4pts for the first 3 games?
No I wouldn't, we want to win every game! This time last year I'd have been happy enough to stay down for a few years but considering how well they done last year anything other than promotion this year is a step backwards.  We've a very young team, I would imagine there will be only 2 on the team, and perhaps the panel over the age of 24 (I'm sure six inch nail will shout if I'm wrong). They've to keep moving forward.   
I think division 2 will be very tight,  ourselves, clann eireann, carrickcruppen, Killeavey, Tones, Newtown and possibly St. Pats, the c***ts, challenging for promotion.  None of the other teams are walk overs either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 22, 2007, 08:36:52 AM
Lads if yous don't mind fill me in on the Cullyhanna sagga, i take it there was an argy bargy with yourselves (Silverbridge) and St Pats. Is it over the play off matches when there was a few fisty cuffs? (forgive me for being from the other end of the county)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on February 22, 2007, 11:37:03 AM

Are you f**king joking?! You have to be joking?! How did they get off?

Pints, apparently the county board were investigating the melee under the wrong rule or something.  Basically they seem to have got off on a technicality.

Quote from: illdecide on February 22, 2007, 08:36:52 AM
Lads if yous don't mind fill me in on the Cullyhanna sagga, i take it there was an argy bargy with yourselves (Silverbridge) and St Pats. Is it over the play off matches when there was a few fisty cuffs? (forgive me for being from the other end of the county)

illdecide,

To summarise, we played Cullyhanna in the Championship last August and drew.  We replayed the following seek which was early September, the replay went to extra time.  We outscored them by about 6 points to 2 in extra time and with about 1 minute left all hell broke loose.  Apparently a couple of Cullyhanna players & also non players made some sort of a signal to start a row.
That is the only apparently there is.  What took place after that was a disgrace and I will now tell you some facts (not speculation):

1. At least 5 Silverbridge players were thumped and kicked on the ground;
2. 2 Silverbridge players were bitten (one had a bruise on his chest for about a week, the other had a piece of skin from his finger bitten off);
3. 1 Silverbridge player was headbutted;
4. A Cullyhanna player stood up on the perimeter fence and repeatedly spat on our supporters;
5. Any amount of our players were hit from behind;
6. One of the offerders was the Cullyhanna manager who hit at least one of our boys from behind;

The referre (Jimmy McKee, who done the best he could) got the match going again after about 5 minutes of this shit - it was plain to be seen that Cullyhanna were trying to get the match abandoned but Jimmy McKee abviously knew this and wanted it finished.

Within about 20 seconds of the restart they had the fight started again, this time 2 of them beating one of our players on the ground.  Another melee started, Jimmy McKee told our keeper to kick the ball out and he blew the full time whistle. The row got settled between the help of Peadar McKeever (the Cullyhanna Chairman) and the fact that we were in the championship semi-final and had no reason to be fighting.

2 of our boys ended up in hospital and they both needed stitches.

As I said at the start, apparently there was some signal to get the row started.  However the rest is fact.  And Cullyhanna get off scott free.  The only player to serve a suspension was one of their players who was actually sent off on the day of the match for being the main reason the melee was kept going.

We, at that stage were in a championshp semi-final the next week and didn't want any fight.

I am seriously pissed off, but draw your own conclusions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 22, 2007, 12:47:26 PM
That sounds rough, i can sort of remember a row but it happened that long ago and not being at the match i forgot all about it. The trouble with getting of with that shit is it allows teams to repeat it again untill they get severly punished. Going back to our county final the subs had to sit in the stands because we were warned that if any subs were seen running onto the pitch (in the event of a row) we would be fined £500 and thrown out of next years championship.

Your matches against them this year should be interesting, obviously the county board knows what went on so maybe they will get nailed (no pun intended) the next time they step out of line. Cullyhanna have always been know as nothing but Hallions from i've ever played against them so from your report nothing has changed.

P.S. I'm not a fan of Jimmy McKee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stoke the boilers! on February 22, 2007, 01:24:23 PM
Dont think Jimmy has too many fans! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 22, 2007, 01:44:50 PM
I'm a fan of Jimmy!

Give the man a break...  8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on February 22, 2007, 02:04:52 PM
I don't think there are any refs with too many fans.  Jimmy, takes no shit which I admire, my only critisim of him is that he seems to favour county players abit, other than that I think hes not too bad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 22, 2007, 03:14:24 PM
Jimmy Mc Kee is a complete moron. Lets just say he had money on Dromintee a few years back. To say that he is a fair referee, after the game he took charge of two seasons back would not go down well with Clann Na Gael folk. I still can't work out how Cathal o' Rourke got a penalty that day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 22, 2007, 03:18:11 PM
 :o :o :o :) :D ;D

Thats a fairly serious (yet humerous) allegation!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on February 22, 2007, 04:21:48 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 22, 2007, 03:14:24 PM
I still can't work out how Cathal o' Rourke got a penalty that day.

Speaks volumes that you don't even know who was fouled for the penalty...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on February 22, 2007, 04:40:53 PM
who actually was fouled? i didnt see a foul...  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 22, 2007, 07:09:13 PM
Six inch
QuoteWe outscored them by about 6 points to 2 in extra time and with about 1 minute left all hell broke loose. 
It was 6 - 0 in extra time! Don't ever forget it!

Quote
Pints, apparently the county board were investigating the melee under the wrong rule or something.  Basically they seem to have got off on a technicality.
To add insult to injury.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on February 24, 2007, 12:18:42 PM
Just heard this morning JP Donnelly trained with the Ogs last night without his transfer going through.  I believe the reason he's looking to move to the Ogs is "he wants to win something"!!!!!! What is wrong with this child????? ???  Should he not be looking a transfer to Cross?

Personally I think he went to last nights training because all the talk of the transfer had died down, and he wanted to be the main topic of conversation in the town for the next few days.

Attention seeking w@nker or just w@nker - You decide ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 24, 2007, 08:01:38 PM
QuoteAs I said at the start, apparently there was some signal to get the row started.

As far as conspiracy bullshit goes, that remark takes a lot of beating. I wasn't at the match so I won't comment but the reports I heard at the time (biased I'll admit but no mroe so than the bridge boys on here) were that Silverbridge were far from blameless angels.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 24, 2007, 08:57:36 PM
Quote
As far as conspiracy bullshit goes, that remark takes a lot of beating. I wasn't at the match so I won't comment but the reports I heard at the time (biased I'll admit but no mroe so than the bridge boys on here) were that Silverbridge were far from blameless angels.
Well tacadoir! 6 months later and you break your silence.  I don't think anyone claimed the bridge were, or are, angels but tells us what they done that day that compared to cullyhanna's behaviour?  And as for biased accounts of me and six inch nail, tell you what, can you point to anything we've said that's incorrect?  Go and point it out.
As for your comment on the conspiracy, well it's just shows how much you know, why don't you ask Mal mackin was he sent out to do what he done?  You could also speak to some of the other players who's comments to each other, before the row, was overheard by our players. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Horatio Kane on February 24, 2007, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: Louis the Red on February 24, 2007, 12:18:42 PM
Just heard this morning JP Donnelly trained with the Ogs last night without his transfer going through.  I believe the reason he's looking to move to the Ogs is "he wants to win something"!!!!!! What is wrong with this child????? ???  Should he not be looking a transfer to Cross?

Personally I think he went to last nights training because all the talk of the transfer had died down, and he wanted to be the main topic of conversation in the town for the next few days.

Attention seeking w@nker or just w@nker - You decide ;)

Just heard he has signed for loughgall  they don't have any Judas c***ts on their books yet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 24, 2007, 11:56:54 PM
QuoteWell tacadoir! 6 months later and you break your silence.  I don't think anyone claimed the bridge were, or are, angels but tells us what they done that day that compared to cullyhanna's behaviour?  And as for biased accounts of me and six inch nail, tell you what, can you point to anything we've said that's incorrect?  Go and point it out.
As for your comment on the conspiracy, well it's just shows how much you know, why don't you ask Mal mackin was he sent out to do what he done?  You could also speak to some of the other players who's comments to each other, before the row, was overheard by our players. 

Pint, my "silence" as you put it has been due to the fact that I (a) wasn't at the match and (b) my posting on the board has been severly restricted since the start of the summer for a number of reason (my total posts figure would bear this out)

Your asking what you've said that was incorrect, well you've always quite vehemently put forward the view that what happened at the c'ship match was entirely the fault of St Pat's men (and I'm not particularly fond of being labelled a c***). Now the limited accounts I've heard of the match suggest that CUllyhanna were not the only team at fault for what happened. Now I wasn't at the match and didn't see what happened, so, as I admitted, I don't have first-hand knowledge of what happened. I find it extermely hard to believe that any of the St Pats players would deliberatly try to have a match abandoned but I'm going to be dragged into a pointless arguement since I wasn't there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 25, 2007, 12:31:13 AM
QuoteYour asking what you've said that was incorrect, well you've always quite vehemently put forward the view that what happened at the c'ship match was entirely the fault of St Pat's men (and I'm not particularly fond of being labelled a c***). Now the limited accounts I've heard of the match suggest that CUllyhanna were not the only team at fault for what happened.

Right tac well tell me what the bridge done.  That's twice now you've implied that we were as guilty so for the second time I ask what the bridge done to deserve the violence that was inflicted on them?  You're probably about the third person I heard suggest that the bridge were also responsible and I've yet to hear why.  Btw, when I refer to the c***ts and referring to those who were fighting that day, I know plenty of St. pat's people were disgusted at what they witnessed. 

You also say that the account given by me and six inch nail was biased yet you can't point to anything either of us said that was incorrect or untrue. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 25, 2007, 01:26:31 AM
Pint I've already said I wasn't at the match and so I can't comment on specifics. I've made that dead clear from the start. I'm simply going on a second hand and fairly vague account but I've never claimed anything else. I really don't want to be drawn into a long and fairly pointless arguement on the subject, I simply took issue with the allegation that St Pats deliberately tried to have a game abandoned as I find this very very difficult to believe.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 25, 2007, 11:36:16 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 25, 2007, 01:26:31 AM
Pint I've already said I wasn't at the match and so I can't comment on specifics. I've made that dead clear from the start. I'm simply going on a second hand and fairly vague account but I've never claimed anything else. I really don't want to be drawn into a long and fairly pointless arguement on the subject, I simply took issue with the allegation that St Pats deliberately tried to have a game abandoned as I find this very very difficult to believe.
Well tac considering you weren't at the game and only have "second hand and fairly vague" accounts I would think that you shouldn't be going around making allegations that "Silverbridge were far from blameless angels" and that "CUllyhanna were not the only team at fault for what happened" especially when you can't give one reason why!

You say that you get it hard to believe st. pats tried to get the game abandoned, fair enough, if I hadn't been there I'd get it hard to believe the level of violence that was invovled. But ask yourself why when we went 6 points ahead comments like "we've to do something now", "we've to do it now" were made by your players and without any further organisation 3 players jumped D Mccann? Are you going to tell me that was not evidence of previous planning. Why was Mal Mackin saying to people after the game that he was "sent out to do it"?  Why then when the row was half settled, Eugene Casey tried his best to get the crowd involved by attacking Cormac McEvoy in front of the stand and standing on the fence clearing his throat and spitting into the crowd? Why then when the row was settled and play resumed your players went to  our goal and attacked Nicholas Traynor and Anthony Malley?  There was multiple attempts to get a row going and to keep it going by your players, if it was not in a effort to get the game abandoned, tell me why!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 25, 2007, 03:36:49 PM
The decision to award a penalty was that much of a joke that i actually don't know who was fouled. I think this proves a point in itself.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on February 26, 2007, 11:00:22 AM
Sorry lads for joining this lovely debate at a late stage.

TacadoirArdMhacha, your silence has been deafening since the row right enough, despite the fact that you no doubt viewed the discussion board a number of times!

But just as a follow on to what Pints was saying about the row being orchestrated, "Nows the time" is one of the quotes which was heard by a couple of our players.

Also, with the first main row settled down and the game going again, why with about 20 seconds left of the match did Cullyhanna replace Mark McDonnell (brother of Steven and a civil chap) with Paul Toner (a nasty bit of work).  I'll tell you why, because Mark McDonnell wouldn't get involved in the fight, whereas Paul Toner was too far away from the action on the sidelines.  It wasn't like he was going to make any telling contribution to the game at that stage was it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stoke the boilers! on February 26, 2007, 02:09:47 PM
JP's transfer has to be one of the most drawn out in years!
When do the county board decide on transfers? Will he be available in time for the league?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sureyouwill on February 26, 2007, 02:36:20 PM
Quote from: stoke the boilers! on February 26, 2007, 02:09:47 PM
JP's transfer has to be one of the most drawn out in years!
When do the county board decide on transfers? Will he be available in time for the league?


Does it matter, do the county boys play many league games currently under Joe's wishes?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stoke the boilers! on February 26, 2007, 02:46:01 PM
your right there, would have made the city derby games very interesting this year if he was allowed to play though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laceer on February 26, 2007, 03:24:24 PM
are there any harps men on here?watched your under 14s yesterday against naomh mhuire.would they be considered strong in Armagh? number 11 was handy..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on March 05, 2007, 10:13:28 AM
QuoteArmagh Gaelic footballer Enda McNulty may be on the cusp of linking up with Aston Villa boss Martin O'Neill as the club's sports psychologist.

Rumours that Joe Kernan was also on Villa's short-list for the role of dietician were said to be wide of the mark.......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on March 05, 2007, 03:51:56 PM
Any major changes in the managerial merry go round this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on March 05, 2007, 04:31:07 PM
I believe Houly is helping out Clarke with the ogs job.  Whitecross have also a new man in charge Thats the only ones i've heard off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 06, 2007, 08:43:55 AM
Gerard Reid is Clann Eireann's new Gaffer
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on March 06, 2007, 12:00:16 PM
I heard that Stephen Casey has been reappointed manager of St Patrick's (Cullyhanna) and Damien Rock is in charge of St Michael's (Newtownhamilton).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: timvo911 on March 06, 2007, 12:06:28 PM
wlll mcnulty sign for villa? he'd prob do better in defence anyway!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on March 06, 2007, 10:18:59 PM
Any rumours of club transfers boys?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 07, 2007, 09:13:45 AM
Quote from: SouthArmaghBandit on March 06, 2007, 10:18:59 PM
Any rumours of club transfers boys?



Yes, don't tell anyone i told you this but JP Donnely is meant to be moving from the Harps to their rivals the Ogs (sorry lads the board is that boring at the minute i couldn't resist it) :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on March 07, 2007, 09:18:30 AM
Jaysus, Are you sure?
Who told you that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 07, 2007, 10:39:44 AM
Quote from: full back on March 07, 2007, 09:18:30 AM
Jaysus, Are you sure?
Who told you that?

If i told ya i'd have to kill ya :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on March 07, 2007, 10:43:09 AM
And what do the Harps boys think about this?
They must have been very bad to him ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 07, 2007, 01:07:56 PM
Lads i know we were taking the piss a we bit there, but in all seriousness has the transfer went through?

P.S. Pint does big J Burns take much to do with the club these days?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on March 07, 2007, 01:13:04 PM
tut tut tut lads. >:(

The transfer hasn't went through yet by the way
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on March 07, 2007, 02:34:31 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 07, 2007, 01:07:56 PM
Lads i know we were taking the piss a we bit there, but in all seriousness has the transfer went through?

P.S. Pint does big J Burns take much to do with the club these days?

Jarlath is currently under 10 manager and puts alot of effort into this job, along with a number of other individuals within the club.  The underage structure at our place is very good at the minute.

He is also our county board representative.  Along with this he captained the B Team to the county championship last year and is still playing this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 07, 2007, 06:19:05 PM
Quote from: Six Inch Nail on March 07, 2007, 02:34:31 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 07, 2007, 01:07:56 PM
Lads i know we were taking the piss a we bit there, but in all seriousness has the transfer went through?

P.S. Pint does big J Burns take much to do with the club these days?

Jarlath is currently under 10 manager and puts alot of effort into this job, along with a number of other individuals within the club.  The underage structure at our place is very good at the minute.

He is also our county board representative.  Along with this he captained the B Team to the county championship last year and is still playing this year.
Aye and is he not also player manager with the B team? Though I think he'd rather just play. 

Where did that question come from illdecide, who's talking shite about him. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on March 08, 2007, 08:58:40 AM
Jarleth Burns is a fine club man involved at all levels of the Association. He is a great role model for kids throughout the county and indeed country. So why is there alway some c*** slagging him off? Is it just because he appears on TV & radio the odd time?
I'd say those talking shite about him haven't contriuted a tenth of what J Burns has to his community.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 08, 2007, 09:36:02 AM
Quote from: SouthArmaghBandit on March 08, 2007, 08:58:40 AM
Jarleth Burns is a fine club man involved at all levels of the Association. He is a great role model for kids throughout the county and indeed country. So why is there alway some c*** slagging him off? Is it just because he appears on TV & radio the odd time?
I'd say those talking shite about him haven't contriuted a tenth of what J Burns has to his community.


Don't get your knickers in a twist, nobody was slagging him. I was listening to him recently on TG4 and just wondered did he still have much to do with the club. FFS that was a bit strong for a general question >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on March 08, 2007, 10:21:14 AM
Did you not know they are all a bit clanny up round the 'Bridge illdecide?
Slag one * you slag them all :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 08, 2007, 10:24:47 AM
Quote from: full back on March 08, 2007, 10:21:14 AM
Did you not know they are all a bit clanny up round the 'Bridge illdecide?
Slag one * you slag them all :D

That maybe the case but i wasn't slagging anyone, because i played against him many times and recently heard him on TG4 i just asked a simple question of what he was upto these days. The next thing you know i'm on the hit list.

What neck of the woods are you from Fullback?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on March 08, 2007, 10:27:58 AM
How do you know you arent already? 8)
Am from a small club in South Armagh-will keep it like that for the time being
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 08, 2007, 11:36:48 AM
Because i'lldecide who is on the hitlists around here :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 08, 2007, 06:07:34 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 08, 2007, 09:36:02 AM
Quote from: SouthArmaghBandit on March 08, 2007, 08:58:40 AM
Jarleth Burns is a fine club man involved at all levels of the Association. He is a great role model for kids throughout the county and indeed country. So why is there alway some c*** slagging him off? Is it just because he appears on TV & radio the odd time?
I'd say those talking shite about him haven't contriuted a tenth of what J Burns has to his community.


Don't get your knickers in a twist, nobody was slagging him. I was listening to him recently on TG4 and just wondered did he still have much to do with the club. FFS that was a bit strong for a general question >:(
:D  Calm lads!
lldecide If you seen the sigerson final and knew your Irish you would have heard him mentioning the two bridge lads on the UUJ panel, I've no idea what he said about them though.  I think it would have answered your question.

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Did you not know they are all a bit clanny up round the 'Bridge illdecide?
Slag one * you slag them all
southarmaghbandit's not from the bridge. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 09, 2007, 09:21:08 AM
I was reading in the local paper last night that Clann Eireann is one of the favourites for the 2nd division. Where did they get that keek from, i reckon the 2nd division is pretty even with about 8 teams as good as each other.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on March 09, 2007, 10:36:51 AM
Quote from: illdecide on March 09, 2007, 09:21:08 AM
I was reading in the local paper last night that Clann Eireann is one of the favourites for the 2nd division. Where did they get that keek from, i reckon the 2nd division is pretty even with about 8 teams as good as each other.

You're correct illdecide, ourselves, Clann Eireann, Killeavy, Newtownhamilton, Cruppen, Tones, Keady, take your pick.  Its a tough one to call.

Excuse my ignorance, what is your club again?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 09, 2007, 11:11:57 AM
Quote from: Six Inch Nail on March 09, 2007, 10:36:51 AM
Quote from: illdecide on March 09, 2007, 09:21:08 AM
I was reading in the local paper last night that Clann Eireann is one of the favourites for the 2nd division. Where did they get that keek from, i reckon the 2nd division is pretty even with about 8 teams as good as each other.

You're correct illdecide, ourselves, Clann Eireann, Killeavy, Newtownhamilton, Cruppen, Tones, Keady, take your pick.  Its a tough one to call.

Excuse my ignorance, what is your club again?

CLANS. All joke on the side the 2nd division will be better because there are plenty of teams on par with each other, whereas the 1st division 50% of the teams in it don't really care about the league they just want the Championship. (getting it of Cross is another matter)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 09, 2007, 11:20:17 AM
itl be very tight would expect newtown 2 go straight back up,dunno what way tones will fare with a new manager,he bound last a couple of months then get fucked off by 1a the players,a common theme
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 09, 2007, 06:59:42 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 09, 2007, 09:21:08 AM
I was reading in the local paper last night that Clann Eireann is one of the favourites for the 2nd division. Where did they get that keek from, i reckon the 2nd division is pretty even with about 8 teams as good as each other.
Has anyone other than the local paper made them favourites?   :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on March 10, 2007, 09:38:33 AM
I was very surprised that Killeavy didn't come up with us last year.  they were definitely the best team we came across.  the 1st match we played against Clann Eireann was a tight enough affair, but they must have faded in the second part of the season.  the second time we met them it was a totally different story.

I'll stick a wee prediction for killeavy and Newtown to be promoted
Title: Cross's quiet man (interview with Francie Bellew)
Post by: dec on March 13, 2007, 01:56:25 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/6430701.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/6430701.stm)

Cross's quiet man By Sinead McNicholl

It's a chilly night in Crossmaglen and as usual, Francie Bellew is doing his talking out on the field.

The only time I've ever heard him talk was a very short post-match interview after last year's Ulster final when he had been named man-of-the-match.

In fact, I'm not even sure I'd recognise his voice if I heard it.

Crossmaglen manager Donal Murtagh agrees.

"The phrase 'quiet man' sums up Francie down to a tee. They used to say that I was the quiet man but Francie is even quieter than me.

"But he's a pleasure to work with. The only thing you have to watch out for is that he's in and out of the dressing-room very quickly after training.

"There was an occasion when we were to meet up but Francie didn't even know about it because he had gone out of the dressing-room that bloody quickly after the previous session," chuckles Murtagh.

Francie was equally mobile on the night I was at training.

While I waited for my chance, I chatted with a few Cross players who know him better than most.

"He's a very unassuming fellow. He's a very quiet fellow but he can be very witty also," reveals Armagh star Oisin McConville.

"He doesn't do much talking but he seems to do most of it on the field. His actions speak louder than his words and he's an inspiration to us all."

Tony McEntee says simply that "Francie means to the world to us as a player and as a team-mate".

"From the fans' reaction in the All-Ireland Club semi-final against St Brigid's, he wasn't expected to be playing but when the team was announced and he was playing full-back, it was the only cheer from the two teams being called out.

"He's an icon to our players but also to the youth of the area."

Clearly Francie is loved in Crossmaglen and Armagh but what about outside his county?

You'd think that Armagh's biggest rivals wouldn't have too many kind words for Francie but Tyrone's Philip Jordan is happy to surprise you.

He spent some time with Francie on the All Stars tour in Hong Kong a couple of years ago.

"He's a tough defender. He gets a lot of stick because maybe some people think he doesn't have the football skills but the art of defending is a skill as well and Francie has perfected that," says Jordan.

"Everybody knows when they play against him that they are definitely not going to get anything easy.

"He's quiet enough but he has his moments as well - especially when he's out on the dancefloor. But we'll say nothing more about that."

Francie the dancer? If only we had had a camera in Hong Kong.

Francie has been accused of being a dirty player but did you know that he has never been sent off for his club and that he has seen red on only two occasions during his Armagh career - and one of those dismissals was later rescinded.

Bellew's hardman image is something which annoys Armagh manager Joe Kernan.

"I've been looking after Francie from a manager's point of view since he was 17. He is one of those model footballers who you never had a problem with. He goes out and trains and there are never any complaints," says Kernan.

"Even when he's injured, he probably doesn't tell you how serious the injury is.

"Over the last few years, I've been worried for Francie because of the reputation that he is supposed to have got.

"The way the media have treated him which been totally unfair. This has rubbed off on a lot of referees and Francie now is nearly booked before he even leaves the dressing-room."

But the hardman image doesn't seem to bother the man himself as much.

It took 10 minutes to persuade him to do an interview and he needed to see a list of the questions beforehand.

However, the answers soon started to trickle out.

"When I saw Armagh playing against the likes of Kerry, I was sitting there and thinking that I'd like to be out there. Yeah, that was my dream."

You wonder whether Francie's tongue is left slightly in his cheek when he ventures legendary Meath hardman Mick Lyons as his favourite player during his youth.

Perhaps, that demonstrates the Bellew wit mentioned earlier by Oisin McConville.

As regards, the biggest influence on his career, there is no hesitation.

"It has to be Joe Kernan for taking me under his wing with Armagh."

Would you have played for Armagh if Joe hadn't been manager?

"Probably not," is the candid reply.

Looking back on Armagh's emotional All-Ireland triumph in 2002, Bellew recalls "an unbelievable experience".

"If you couldn't play football there, you should just quit."

Francie seems almost embarrassed about his cult status among Crossmaglen and Armagh fans.

Are you aware of it, when you are out on the field?

"I am because Benny Tierney comes up to my face and tells me all about it. It's good fun."

And what about the Francie Bellew tee-shirts and the website?

"I haven't seen the tee-shirts yet but I want to know who is making money out of them.

"I have been made to have a look at the website. It's a bit of craic."

And that was it.

I had gone where very few reporters had gone before.

I'm not sure how much we've learned about Francie but one definite, is that Armagh GAA supporters think the world of him.

We'll leave the last few words to Joe Kernan.

"Respect him from what he is. A genuine man who gives 100 per cent every day he goes out.

"He loves his football. Please don't spoil it."
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 16, 2007, 10:49:50 AM
good luck to Crossmaglen tomorrow in the all-ireland final. As much as i want them beat in the Armagh championship when it comes out of the county i would wish any Armagh team wel.l
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on March 16, 2007, 03:36:24 PM

Best of luck to the old foe tomorrow. we'll be supporting armagh's finest all the way
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: say nothin on March 16, 2007, 06:43:38 PM
Good luck to the Rangers 2moro..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on March 16, 2007, 09:24:28 PM
Sod the rugby - I'll be watching XMG teach the Gooch and Brosnan a lesson.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on March 17, 2007, 03:31:10 PM
Cross didn't quite manage to teach a lesson, but they are still there. I expect that this means that Joe will have to work with his current panel for the remainder of the league.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 19, 2007, 11:23:13 AM
All joke on the side if Armagh can't beat that Down team with or without the Cross men they deserve to be relegated, that Down team is the worst ive seen this long time. I would say the bollocking they got after their last game (Derry) should perk them up a bit.

Who would be the favourites to get the chop when the Cross men return??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on March 19, 2007, 01:19:25 PM
I think it has to be decided how many cross men coming in, can only see 2 or 3
And I think Saturday has proved to allot of people who is county class and who isn't, and also who isn't fit for club level never mind county, of all the players mentioned previous to game i can only see 1 being included, McKenna.
and if a certain managers son isn't omitted it is a joke, if there is 6 better forwards in cross than him there is allot more in the county.
And players to be cut to make way, I would imagine would be Mackin, McKinney(cant see hearty being put on bench) Moriarty(though if it is it will be a dodgy full back line with 2 slow players on it)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true ulster gael on March 19, 2007, 01:21:38 PM
dr crokes have missed the boat
good luck to cross in the replay
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on March 19, 2007, 01:54:16 PM
Do Armagh play in the Ulster U21 next week, will the cross player be let play, considering they haven't even trained with them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: heganboy on March 19, 2007, 02:06:17 PM
i was just watching the Galway league game there. Martin O Rourke gets some amount of ball but you wonder what he does with it? Diarmuid wasn't really in synch with the rest of the team. McGeeney was streets ahead of McKeever in CHB. McGrane covered serious ground, but is going to end up booked in every game- he walks a fine line sometimes. Andy Mallon excellent, Finnian Moriarty showed some good flashes and some poor ones. The shooting was brutal- Keenan must have kicked 7/8 wides in the second half. MOR wasn't able to hit a barn door. Kevin McGuckian did some job on Stevie...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 19, 2007, 02:09:46 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on March 19, 2007, 01:54:16 PM
Do Armagh play in the Ulster U21 next week, will the cross player be let play, considering they haven't even trained with them.

Yes they play Tyrone in Davitt Park, Lurgan. Can't answer about the Cross player
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 20, 2007, 09:13:23 AM
Can you confirm it's in Lurgan?? Do you know the time?

Should be an entertaining match...Tyrone U21's seem impressive, & there should be some decent names on the Armagh panel also!

...I presume the senior panel will be down to the bare bones next Sunday due to this!!!??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 20, 2007, 10:01:49 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on March 20, 2007, 09:13:23 AM
Can you confirm it's in Lurgan?? Do you know the time?

Should be an entertaining match...Tyrone U21's seem impressive, & there should be some decent names on the Armagh panel also!

...I presume the senior panel will be down to the bare bones next Sunday due to this!!!??

Can't be 100% sure but when i was on the pitch last week our groundsman said he would need the pitch rolled as Armagh and Tyrone play on it this weekend, thats all i know chief
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 20, 2007, 09:11:48 PM
Aertel has it set for Davitt park 3.30 throw in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 22, 2007, 01:31:49 PM
Had that confirmed Last night Sat 3:30. I take it Tyrone will be massive favourites?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Heshs Umpire on March 23, 2007, 02:44:51 PM
Lads and lassies,
Just wondering if any of your clubs are travelling down to Laois for the double header next weekend and interested a challenge game?
We're an intermediate (Division 2) team just outside Portlaoise where the games are being played and would be happy to host a team of similar standard on Sunday morning or early on the Saturday evening.
You can give me a ring on 087-6894108 if you're interested.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sam03/05 on March 25, 2007, 05:45:04 PM
Anyone think Armagh could make the semi finals??
I think they have a good chance as the play Laois and Westmeath next
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on March 25, 2007, 06:37:49 PM
Remaining fixtures

Division 1B 30/03 or 1/04
Portlaoise Laois v Ard Mhacha
Newcastle An Dún v Doire
Drogheda An Lú v Gaillimh
Cusack Park An Iarmhí v Cill Dara

08/04
Tuam/Pearse Park Gaillimh v An Dún
Newbridge Cill Dara v Laois
Celtic Park Doire v An Lú
Crossmaglen Ard Mhacha v An Iarmhí

from an Armagh perspective we'd be hoping for at least one more victory, probably Westmeath is our best chance. If Kildare also beat Westmeath then they would end up below Armagh, but we still end up in Div 2 unless we beat Laois and Kildare beat Laois. Armagh has a good prospect of winning more than Louth, in which case both our neighbours would get the drop, which they would deserve I suppose since we beat them. When Sam 03/05 talks of semi-finals he is either bad at maths or more likely is a Tyronie taking the piss.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 26, 2007, 01:23:38 PM
The way Armagh are playing at the minute i can't see them getting a result in Portlaoise, i def think they'll beat Westmeath though. On the Armagh v Down thread there was a few lads taking the middle out of the Cullyhanna lads, what is the reason for this? (is it still the Bridge v Cullhanna despute or is there somthing else i don't know about)

Surely when your representing your county it shouldn't matter what your club is you should be getting the support from everyone. I see in the paper today big Joe is looking the U21 game postponed, whats his chances of that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on March 26, 2007, 01:41:14 PM
Whats the story with Tony Kernan after the U21 game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 26, 2007, 01:45:35 PM
Medial ligament in his knee.  Will miss the rest of the u21s.  Lad is gutted.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on March 26, 2007, 01:58:49 PM
Our Seniors are playing Collegeland this Sunday in a Friendly. Does anybody have any directions to here from Newcastle/Dundrum? Also what standard of they of? Division 3?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on March 26, 2007, 02:01:54 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 26, 2007, 01:45:35 PM
Medial ligament in his knee.  Will miss the rest of the u21s.  Lad is gutted.

Very sorry to hear that - any time I have seen him, he always looks a class act - best wishes for a speedy recovery!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on March 26, 2007, 02:18:45 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 26, 2007, 01:23:38 PM
The way Armagh are playing at the minute i can't see them getting a result in Portlaoise, i def think they'll beat Westmeath though. On the Armagh v Down thread there was a few lads taking the middle out of the Cullyhanna lads, what is the reason for this? (is it still the Bridge v Cullhanna despute or is there somthing else i don't know about)

Surely when your representing your county it shouldn't matter what your club is you should be getting the support from everyone. I see in the paper today big Joe is looking the U21 game postponed, whats his chances of that?

Without wanting to get into the whole shit about the row again, yes it is still the Bridge v Cullyhanna dispute.  I will never support either McKeever or Mackin again regardless of what colour of jersey they are wearing.  I have no problem supporting Paudie McCreesh because he didn't get up to any badness that day and I'm not against everything Cullyhanna.  However, the 2 aforementioned individuals will get no support or praise from me.  If your club got the treatment we got during and after the fight, right up until Cullyhanna got off scott free you might have a different opinion.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armamike on March 26, 2007, 04:48:02 PM
QuoteOur Seniors are playing Collegeland this Sunday in a Friendly. Does anybody have any directions to here from Newcastle/Dundrum? Also what standard of they of? Division 3?

Handy enough to find it.  Coming from Newry direction head through Armagh, for the Moy Road. Straight out the Moy road for about 6 miles until you come to Charlemont. Take a right in Charlemont and you are there - the football grounds are on the left. Collegeland are in division 3 and at junior level. They have 1 or 2 players in their ranks by the name of McGeary! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 26, 2007, 04:52:13 PM
Quote from: Six Inch Nail on March 26, 2007, 02:18:45 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 26, 2007, 01:23:38 PM
The way Armagh are playing at the minute i can't see them getting a result in Portlaoise, i def think they'll beat Westmeath though. On the Armagh v Down thread there was a few lads taking the middle out of the Cullyhanna lads, what is the reason for this? (is it still the Bridge v Cullhanna despute or is there somthing else i don't know about)

Surely when your representing your county it shouldn't matter what your club is you should be getting the support from everyone. I see in the paper today big Joe is looking the U21 game postponed, whats his chances of that?

Without wanting to get into the whole shit about the row again, yes it is still the Bridge v Cullyhanna dispute.  I will never support either McKeever or Mackin again regardless of what colour of jersey they are wearing.  I have no problem supporting Paudie McCreesh because he didn't get up to any badness that day and I'm not against everything Cullyhanna.  However, the 2 aforementioned individuals will get no support or praise from me.  If your club got the treatment we got during and after the fight, right up until Cullyhanna got off scott free you might have a different opinion.

Well Six Inch Nail, i do know what went on that night was a disgrace and you certainly have your reasons. That incident certainly created a lot of bitterness between the two clubs, it might blow over if yous play this year without any incidents (needs a good Ref though, don't ask big Sam McClatchy)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Brick Tamlin on March 26, 2007, 05:12:47 PM
so what went on then, what really happened that night.can someone shed some light on this
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 26, 2007, 06:35:22 PM
Six Inch nail
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Without wanting to get into the whole shit about the row again, yes it is still the Bridge v Cullyhanna dispute.  I will never support either McKeever or Mackin again regardless of what colour of jersey they are wearing.  I have no problem supporting Paudie McCreesh because he didn't get up to any badness that day and I'm not against everything Cullyhanna.  However, the 2 aforementioned individuals will get no support or praise from me.  If your club got the treatment we got during and after the fight, right up until Cullyhanna got off scott free you might have a different opinion.
I agree with you there but I have an issue with Cullyhanna. The same people who licked our holes after the game telling how ashamed they were of their own team and management went and appointed casey as their manager this year again!

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On the Armagh v Down thread there was a few lads taking the middle out of the Cullyhanna lads, what is the reason for this? (is it still the Bridge v Cullhanna despute or is there somthing else i don't know about)
I dont think anyone has said anything that's not true. 

Quoteso what went on then, what really happened that night.can someone shed some light on this
Are you on about Bridge V Cullyhanna? Whole story is on page 52 of this thread.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orcharddugout on March 27, 2007, 12:10:59 AM
Cullyhanna physical? surely not.
Next you'll hear Corrinshego play ringers, Whitecross like the drink, Dorsey hit hard, Harps get a city ref, Dromintee believe they should never have to play in Crossmaglen, Carrickcruppen squabble amongst themselves, Shane O'Neill's are retired from Camlough Rovers, Lurgan teams whinge like no other and Madden dont interbreed.
But it is not true.
So dont believe a word of it. I dont.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on March 27, 2007, 08:40:30 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 26, 2007, 01:45:35 PM
Medial ligament in his knee.  Will miss the rest of the u21s.  Lad is gutted.

Brutal news for him.  wish him all the best
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on March 27, 2007, 12:36:09 PM
Good point Pint, to select that savage again as their manager is a daming indictment on Cullyhanna football club as a whole, certainly the shits that are running it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Brick Tamlin on March 27, 2007, 12:54:06 PM
Quite worrying in that from outside the county perspective that our club is due to play them in a challenge pretty soon.
are they just complete dirt bags with one of the most cynical and cowardly thugs playin for them and the county or is it just me.
Mackin and Mc Keever were never even Cullyhanna's best players, i was made to believe that the O Hare boys were the real deal in that club only the eldast i think left them because of their antics, that right?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 27, 2007, 01:24:14 PM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on March 27, 2007, 12:54:06 PM
Quite worrying in that from outside the county perspective that our club is due to play them in a challenge pretty soon.
are they just complete dirt bags with one of the most cynical and cowardly thugs playin for them and the county or is it just me.
Mackin and Mc Keever were never even Cullyhanna's best players, i was made to believe that the O Hare boys were the real deal in that club only the eldast i think left them because of their antics, that right?

I haven't played against Cullyhanna in a few years, but the last time i did the O'Hare lads were def some of their better players. Has M Mackin got older brothers who play or played for them as well?
What pissed me off playing there was the car horns dooting every time they scored (which i have to say was usually less scores than ours ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on March 27, 2007, 03:14:41 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 27, 2007, 01:24:14 PM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on March 27, 2007, 12:54:06 PM
Quite worrying in that from outside the county perspective that our club is due to play them in a challenge pretty soon.
are they just complete dirt bags with one of the most cynical and cowardly thugs playin for them and the county or is it just me.
Mackin and Mc Keever were never even Cullyhanna's best players, i was made to believe that the O Hare boys were the real deal in that club only the eldast i think left them because of their antics, that right?

I haven't played against Cullyhanna in a few years, but the last time i did the O'Hare lads were def some of their better players. Has M Mackin got older brothers who play or played for them as well?
What pissed me off playing there was the car horns dooting every time they scored (which i have to say was usually less scores than ours ;))

the car horns are a f**king ballix. people drive their cars up onto the bank then wind the window down and get out. then when the opportunity arrives they lean into the car to doot the car horn! i dont understand it myself tbh

the O'Hare's were always the best players i saw playing for cullyhanna. Liam used to be a nightmare for defences on his day...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Brick Tamlin on March 27, 2007, 03:34:05 PM
there were 3 O Hare boys werent there, the oldest fella being the most talented apparently. Whatever happened to him. and also how come the Ohares were always overlooked in favour of the likes of that t**ker Mc Keever & Mackin
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on March 27, 2007, 03:50:54 PM
Yes there were three O'Hares, Sean, Kieran and Liam.  All good footballers but no angels.  Sean went to Castleblaney, apparently to get county football with Monaghan as he couldn't get any in Armagh.  Sean and Kieran are two good footballers but maybe lacked that bit of pace needed for intercounty.  Liam has plenty of pace but slightly on the small side for county football, although I thought he done ok in the national league last year.

Malachy Mackin, as far as I know has no older brothers.  Des Mackin used to play for Cullyhanna (was on the county minor team in 92).  He was a great footballer and a good lad too.  As far as I know he is no relation to the other Mackin who would run past 4 men to hit a young fella.

Brick, what is your club?  Against Cullyhanna you can expect alot of dirty play with their manager egging them on all the time.  He also has 3 sons playing for the team who are as dirty bastards as you could meet in a days walking and you aren't even allowed to touch them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Brick Tamlin on March 27, 2007, 03:57:32 PM
Down Club, we always seem to play Cullyhanna in challenge matches at this time of year. Always a dirty shower alright. Our team wouldnt really be a physical side let alone have anyone dirty or 'hard' if the term is to be used but we have some nice footballers, and if i recall when takin rings around Cullyhanna they always start to dish the dirty stuff and ends up ruinin the match.
On the O Hare issue ive heard a few Armagh folk sayin that the O Hares would have constantly been overlooked by Kernan, maybe a personal thing. The eldest fella went to Blayney because of all the carry on within Cullyhanna club i heard. Players friggin about and not putting in required comittment etc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on March 27, 2007, 06:01:08 PM
Any word of any directions yet from Newcastle to Collegeland?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on March 27, 2007, 06:06:56 PM
Cheers 5times
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 28, 2007, 12:41:17 PM
Quote from: Six Inch Nail on March 27, 2007, 03:50:54 PM
Yes there were three O'Hares, Sean, Kieran and Liam.  All good footballers but no angels.  Sean went to Castleblaney, apparently to get county football with Monaghan as he couldn't get any in Armagh.  Sean and Kieran are two good footballers but maybe lacked that bit of pace needed for intercounty.  Liam has plenty of pace but slightly on the small side for county football, although I thought he done ok in the national league last year.

Malachy Mackin, as far as I know has no older brothers.  Des Mackin used to play for Cullyhanna (was on the county minor team in 92).  He was a great footballer and a good lad too.  As far as I know he is no relation to the other Mackin who would run past 4 men to hit a young fella.

Brick, what is your club?  Against Cullyhanna you can expect alot of dirty play with their manager egging them on all the time.  He also has 3 sons playing for the team who are as dirty bastards as you could meet in a days walking and you aren't even allowed to touch them.

What was the name of the Cullyhanna manager again?, i'll have to look out for them sons if the situation ever arises to give them a bit of their own medicine ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 28, 2007, 02:07:53 PM
Bad news...

http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/6502591.stm (http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/6502591.stm)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on March 28, 2007, 02:18:21 PM

What was the name of the Cullyhanna manager again?, i'll have to look out for them sons if the situation ever arises to give them a bit of their own medicine ;)
[/quote]

Stephen Casey.


Thats bad news for Donnelly and Armagh - he was a decent option.  A bad blow for Ogs too ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 28, 2007, 02:41:46 PM
I'd say his tranfer will go through without too much trouble now all right!

Get well soon JP!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 28, 2007, 03:49:00 PM
Yes goat but which club will be paying for his operation??????????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on March 28, 2007, 03:52:54 PM
I would like to think Armagh will look after him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on March 28, 2007, 03:54:39 PM
Id say whichever club it is will be therer insurance,
to add to that and tie in with another incident, a player picks up injury while with county - should it not be the county and there insurance that sorts it out and not be sent back to club injured but told by county he wasnt injured.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 28, 2007, 03:55:13 PM
Yeah but utimately whatever club he is from will be involved at some stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 28, 2007, 03:57:57 PM
holyland i agree it should be the county that sorts it out because at the end of the day it happened playing for armagh. This could be a tricky oe because if Donnelly were a first time starter then he may be treated a little better. But i am only speculating i don't know enough about the setup.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on March 28, 2007, 03:58:10 PM
After the 'gossip' about Brian Mc Guigan, Armagh will ensure he is looked after in the best possible way-make no mistake about it.
John Toal was looked after
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on March 28, 2007, 04:01:36 PM
Im on about a minor last few yrs, although was clearly injured was sent back to club being told noting wrong with him same scan read otherwise, as you more or less said if this was starting senior he would have been taken to whoever was neccesary
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 28, 2007, 04:15:25 PM
Well i would definetly say there would be a certain amount of double standards that would exist in all county panels and a brave majority of club teams
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 29, 2007, 01:41:42 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 28, 2007, 03:49:00 PM
Yes goat but which club will be paying for his operation??????????

winsamsoon you seem to know about these operations, have you much experience on this topic and do you play for a team in Armagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 29, 2007, 05:38:50 PM
You can call me mack the knife, Lets just say i kick a little ball around the odd time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ziggysego on April 01, 2007, 05:53:38 PM
TYP, a man in your position should know better. Still, it IS funny to look at  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on April 01, 2007, 07:59:27 PM
Anyone know how many of Armagh's 61 points were scored by Stevie?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 04, 2007, 10:01:04 AM
I see the McEntees have now confirmed that at 29 they have retired from inter county football.  I know this was announced last year but Im not sure if they ever confrimed it.  Unfortunate that, they would have been a good option to have.  Watched Orchard Harvest recently and I had forgotten just how good and important they were in 2002.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/6524979.stm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on April 04, 2007, 10:47:55 AM
I just read that in The Irish News, right enough David.  I suppose that they would have been good options, but as Tony said 10 or 15 minutes might be all.  To be honest I think that it is the right decision by the boys.  They have been great servants to Armagh, but their current form would suggest that county football might be beyond them.  I would consider myself to be one of the McEntees biggest fans, two good, honest lads with great ability.  And about 2002, John was vital to Armagh.  The amount of scores that the full forward line got directly from him was serious.  Johns form dipped after 2002 because of injury and as a result we haven't had a centre half forward since.  Tonys versitality was well known and probably worked against him, being moved around the team meant that he wasn't given the opportunity to make one position his own.  Good luck to both of them.  Now that they are finished with Armagh I hope that their medal haul has come to an end  ;) ;).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 04, 2007, 03:17:02 PM
I suppose it is the best for them but as I say because we are struggling so badly at the minute I would like to have seen all hands to the pump for once last push.  Not to be im afriad.

On another note any word on the injuries to Ronan Clarke, JP Donnelly, Paul Duffy and the two Mallons
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on April 04, 2007, 03:21:55 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on April 04, 2007, 03:17:02 PM

On another note any word on the injuries to Ronan Clarke, JP Donnelly, Paul Duffy and the two Mallons

I think Paul Duffy is more or less ready for action.  I would forget about Ronan Clarke, JP Donnelly and Brian Mallon for the rest of the year.  After suffering serious injuries like that its going to take a good while before they are anyway ready for action.  I don't know the first thing about Andy Mallons injury.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on April 04, 2007, 03:24:21 PM
Andy has a cracked bone in his foot
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 04, 2007, 03:34:13 PM
brian mallon due to return to full trainin in the nxt couple of weeks according to his bebo!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 04, 2007, 03:37:34 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on April 04, 2007, 03:34:13 PM
brian mallon due to return to full trainin in the nxt couple of weeks according to his bebo!

:D :D :D : :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 04, 2007, 03:43:00 PM
jeysus it wasnt that funny was it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 04, 2007, 03:44:25 PM
Yeah I was talking very briefly with Brian Mallon at the Sigerson and he was suggesting hed be back training before the end of the league.  Maybe not though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 04, 2007, 03:45:47 PM
Sorry ard mhacha abu
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 04, 2007, 04:54:20 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on April 04, 2007, 03:44:25 PM
Yeah I was talking very briefly with Brian Mallon at the Sigerson and he was suggesting hed be back training before the end of the league.  Maybe not though

Hehe hehe he told me at the U21 game in Lurgan last week that he's doing well, but it would still be 2 months anyways!  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on April 04, 2007, 04:56:20 PM
Anyone know the throw-in time for tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 04, 2007, 04:59:51 PM
7:30 according to bbc sport's website
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on April 04, 2007, 05:05:26 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on April 04, 2007, 04:59:51 PM
7:30 according to bbc sport's website

Thanks David. Time enough for my tea yet...
Title: Club Fixtures
Post by: full back on April 10, 2007, 11:15:31 AM
Wednesday 11 April

ACL – Div. III (6.45)
An Port Mor v Middletown (Vincent O'Neill)


Saturday 14 April

ACL – Div. IV (5.30)
Dorsey Emmett's v Forkhill (Paudie Hughes)


Sunday 15 April

ACL – Div. I (2.00)
Crossmaglen v Clan na Gael (Kevin Gallogly)
Culloville v Whitecross (Damian McConville)
Harps v Mullaghbawn (Stephen Murray)
Pearse Og v Maghery (Oliver Hearty)
Tir na nÓg v Dromintee (Jimmy McKee)

ACL – Div. II (2.00)
Annaghmore v Carrickcruppen (Noel Martin)
Keady v Granemore (Ronan Quigley)
Killeavey v Ballymacnab (Brendan Gorman)
St Patrick's v St Michael's (Gary Smith) *Postponed until Wednesday 25 April (7.00)
St Peter's v Wolfe Tones (Tony Watters)
Silverbridge v Clann Eireann (Tony O'Hare)

ACL – Div. III (2.00)
Ballyhegan v Clonmore (Seamus O'Neill)
Lissummon v Crossmaglen II (Padraig Duffy)
Madden v Clady (Jim Burns)
St Paul's v Tullysaran (Jim Slevin)
Sarsfields v Collegeland (Rory Robinson)

ACL – Div. IV (2.00)
Derrynoose v Mullaghbrack (Paul Seacroft)
Eire Og v O'Hanlon's (Joe Murtagh)
Phelim Brady's v Grange (Seamus Falloon)
Shane O'Neill's v Corrinshego (Stephen McKinley)

Taken from Orchard County
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 10, 2007, 11:55:13 AM

Great to have the leagues back and some real football to get our teeth into. only six weeks til the championships... if the county board can be believed... so it should be hot and heavy from the start!

Cross Vs Clans is a nice welcome home party for the all ireland champs and keady Vs Granemore is sure to be a belter. (cert for trouble with that wombat quigley refereeing it).

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 10, 2007, 12:05:11 PM
Indeed, some good games Uladh.
Quigley will have his hands full in Keady for sure ;)

As for the championship in 6 weeks, I wouldnt hold my breath, them tubes at the county board could change their mind at any given time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on April 10, 2007, 01:33:36 PM
Quote from: Uladh on April 10, 2007, 11:55:13 AM

Great to have the leagues back and some real football to get our teeth into. only six weeks til the championships... if the county board can be believed... so it should be hot and heavy from the start!

Cross Vs Clans is a nice welcome home party for the all ireland champs and keady Vs Granemore is sure to be a belter. (cert for trouble with that wombat quigley refereeing it).



Hmmm. And why dont you take up refereeing yourself chief?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 10, 2007, 02:37:27 PM


[/quote]

Hmmm. And why dont you take up refereeing yourself chief?

[/quote]

Because i'm shite at it and if more attention seeking egomaniacs who never kicked a ball, but yet pass themselves off as referees, could admit the same thing the world would be a better place.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 10, 2007, 02:41:21 PM
How do you like them apples Orior? :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on April 10, 2007, 04:44:10 PM
Quote from: full back on April 10, 2007, 02:41:21 PM
How do you like them apples Orior? :D

I'm just saying that if you think referees are below standard then you should try having a go yourself. Its all too easy to criticise.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 11, 2007, 03:04:12 PM
can anyone give me directions to annaghmore?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 11, 2007, 03:07:44 PM
Are you going from 'Cruppen field?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 11, 2007, 03:32:16 PM
yeah from cruppen!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 11, 2007, 05:38:26 PM
As I believe the only Annaghmore member on the board I will try to give you directions Ard Mhaca Abu but I warn you our pitch is very hard to find.

This is definitely not the quickest route as its about 5 miles longer than how i would go but its probably the handiest if you dont know the area around Annaghmore

From Camlough head toward Armagh

Go straight through Armagh heading towards the Moy

About 3/4 miles from the Moy you will see trainors scrap yard on your right hand side turn right there. 

Go to the end of that road and turn right.  This is a very long very winding road about 4 mile down it you find Ardress House on you right.

Go past Ardress House and keep going about another mile or so and you will see a church on your left hand side. Go past the church and round the corner.

Then take you next left

Go to the end of that road and take left.

Travel along that road for about 2 mile.  You will past Derry's furniture on your right hand side.  Take your next right.

Go along that road about 2 mile and go round a sharp corner.  Take right after the corner. 

Go along that road and you will see the pitch on your right hand side.

If you know how to get to Stone Bridge restaurant on the Armagh-Portadown road then PM me and I will send you directions from there its much quicker that way.

I wont be there on Sunday so I will expect a report on the game.

If you want to use one of those driving directions websites.  The address of our pitch is 59 Eglish Road Portadown bt62 1nl
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 11, 2007, 08:37:19 PM
Good to see such a helpful post.  Good on you David.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on April 11, 2007, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on April 11, 2007, 05:38:26 PM
As I believe the only Annaghmore member on the board I will try to give you directions Ard Mhaca Abu but I warn you our pitch is very hard to find.

Understatement of the year. I like to think that I have a decent sense of direction, and I've played a few times at Annaghmore (won the 1988 Annaghmore tournament  8)), and I could no more find it now than I could predict this week's lottery numbers. That general area, bounded by Moy to the west, Loughgall to the South and the Motorway to the North is an absolute maze of narrow road ways! 

By the way, Dirk Diggler from the previous board was an Annaghmore man, although I don't see him about now - unless of course it's you David!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 11, 2007, 10:46:09 PM
Yeah hard enough pitch to find alright and no I have only posted on here under my real name didnt realise there was more than one Annaghmore man.  Thanks SJ
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on April 12, 2007, 12:23:17 AM
Has are old friend Tony Fearon resigned from this board?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on April 12, 2007, 09:15:23 AM
QuoteHas are old friend Tony Fearon resigned from this board?

Maybe he was arrested in Seville?   100,000 celtic supporters go there and not even one arrest.  A handful of Spurs lunatics go & wreck the place!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 12, 2007, 09:18:42 AM
Tony hasn't been about since the stuff was put up about his wife on myspace.com and a link was put in a thread by someone.  He took himself off the board and hasn't been seen since.  I would say come championship time, or if Spurs make the Uefa cup final he will re-appear.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on April 12, 2007, 10:03:08 AM
To be fair you couldn't blame the fella
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 12, 2007, 10:13:44 AM
I would say it was the picture of his Mrs appearing on the board that annoyed him. There has been pictures of him alone on the board before but the Mrs was put on it and a few comments made about her. Mr Fearon didnt take to kindly to that.
BC1 if we are waiting on Spurs to get to the final it will be quite a while before he is back on ;)
Title: Division 1 predictions
Post by: harps2002champs on April 12, 2007, 10:30:48 AM
Crossmaglen v Clan na Gael           Cross

Culloville v Whitecross                  whitecross

Harps v Mullaghbawn                   harps

Pearse Og v Maghery                  ogs

Tir na nÓg v Dromintee               draw


any views on the matches this weekend?? cross and clans is the match of the weekend but cant see the all ireland champs beaten on their first appearance as champs.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 12, 2007, 10:44:04 AM

Crossmaglen v Clan na Gael           Cross will probably play a load of youngsters - Clans

Culloville v Whitecross                  whitcross won't handle Cullaville's robust and direct style - cullaville

Harps v Mullaghbawn                   Mullaghbawn will be very fit and pack their defence to frustrate the harps - mullaghbawn

Pearse Og v Maghery                  both teams will come out playing nice football so the team with the best individuals will win - ogs

Tir na nÓg v Dromintee               difficult to assess but dromintee have started the league very badly in recent years - tir na nog
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 12, 2007, 11:01:15 AM
Any B Results last night lad.

Heard Mullabrack started with a win v Clady.

& read the Harps result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 12, 2007, 11:18:55 AM
carrickcruppen beat newtown 1-18 to 0-5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 12, 2007, 12:03:45 PM
Crossmaglen v Clan na Gael           clans. we had a good win in cross last year in the league down there. a repeat?

Culloville v Whitecross                  culloville

Harps v Mullaghbawn                   tough match. i expect the harps to win by a couple.

Pearse Og v Maghery                  Ogs to make a strong return to Division 1 and win by 5 or 6

Tir na nÓg v Dromintee               Dromintee to travel to the north and bring back all the points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 12, 2007, 01:54:55 PM
Are we getting a new jersey this summer?  I ask as I noticed home and away jersies on sale in O'neill's store in Newry
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 12, 2007, 04:37:13 PM
Yes it will be out in May, it has a collar but it not that much different.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on April 12, 2007, 06:02:58 PM
Same as louth new 1, stripes on shoulders.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on April 15, 2007, 12:28:33 PM
I just heard that the Cross/Clans game is on the radio today at 2pm on 5FM.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on April 15, 2007, 01:08:50 PM
Fingers crossed that all the U21 players get through todays matches!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on April 15, 2007, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on April 15, 2007, 12:28:33 PM
I just heard that the Cross/Clans game is on the radio today at 2pm on 5FM.

You sure about that. I thought throw in was 3.30. Have to make tracks...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on April 15, 2007, 01:25:02 PM
Do you have a helicopter? 2pm throw-in


By the way, heard you get a mention on the wireless yesterday, Donagh.......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 15, 2007, 04:15:32 PM
Any results in.
C Eireann v the 'bridge called off late due to a death in the bridge. I heard cross beat clans. 


QuoteFingers crossed that all the U21 players get through todays matches!
I don't think they were playing orior.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 15, 2007, 05:05:53 PM
Tir na nOg beat Dromintee
Culloville lost to Whitecross
Killeavey defeated Ballymacnab
Carrickcruppen beat Annaghmore
Keady lost to Granemore

Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 15, 2007, 06:17:48 PM
Mullaghawn beat Harps 1-9 to 0-10.  Harps had plenty of chances to win in a very needley encounter, Mullaghbawn are hard team to beat, they are very tight and with a little dirt; not a good team to watch playing, a bit like Wimbledon in the 80's(not the tennis).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on April 15, 2007, 06:32:31 PM
on orchard county a clans man posted cross won 2-9 to 1-4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on April 15, 2007, 07:41:15 PM
Quote from: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on April 15, 2007, 01:25:02 PM
Do you have a helicopter? 2pm throw-in

Bad tempered affair as usual between these two sides. Clans were comprehensively tanked but didn't do themselves any favours with silly decisions, no bottle in front of the posts and crucially conceding a large early lead. Diarmuid seemed to have been singled out early on for particularly rough treatment though was probably the best man on the pitch, followed closely by the twins. Francie seemed to have picked up a calf injury before he was substituted. There'll not be a team in the ACL that will be able to compete with the Cross fitness levels at this time of year.

The FiveFM commentary was very entertaining, though that John Cummins DJ bloke seems a bit of a tool (he didn't read any of my texts)   :P


Edit: aye, got a hold of a big silver one. There was us thinking they couldn't understand the txt as composed in "short" format by the teenage co-pilot...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: puskas on April 15, 2007, 09:09:24 PM
ogs drew with maghery, 1.7 to 0.10. ogs had the chances to win, including 3 wides in the last 3 minutes, maghery finished every chance they got.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 16, 2007, 01:09:18 AM
The cross supporters have are the biggest slabbers i have came across yet. They called Marsden today a chocolate man because every time he got the ball he was blatantly fouled then when he fouled they were shouting that he was a dirty so and so. They also had there fair share of mouths behind the nets. I know every team have followers that are mouths but there is no call to single out a person just because he is a good player.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 16, 2007, 08:21:01 AM
Ballyhegan 2:08 - Clonmore 1:03

Strong start for the Davitts with Paddy McKeever scoring 1:06 from full forward.

Other scorers were Brendan McAtarsney with 2 fine scores with the outside of the left boot & Noel Marley's son Paddy, with a well taken goal.

Missed a few lads who were on John Hughes stag & of course Paul Courtney after his fine performance in the U21 final the day before.

Paul McGrane & Paddy McKeever make some difference to the Davitts!!

Clonmore looked poor & only took 1 point untill the last 10 minutes of the game!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 16, 2007, 09:43:13 AM
Ogs threw the game away yesterday, came from 3 points down to go one in front.  messed about in the last 5 wasting 4 good chances.  Maghery got the break down the field to level.  The ref blew it up from the kick out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 16, 2007, 10:59:45 AM
Any reports form the Portydown v Dromintee game, I hear they cut the sh1te out of each other?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 16, 2007, 01:02:00 PM
Tir Na Nog by two,

Was not at it. so have no report on the Tir Na Nog social Club jumping Dromintee players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 16, 2007, 01:18:32 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 16, 2007, 01:02:00 PM
Tir Na Nog by two,

Was not at it. so have no report on the Tir Na Nog social Club jumping Dromintee players.

Just heard that both teams cut the tripe out of each other, supporters and all. I was up at Crossmaglen yesterday, the Clanns were pure manure. Cross were just a bit sharp for them (and they had forwards who wanted the ball) The Clanns full forward line had a combined weight of about 18 stone, Cross just ate them up..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 16, 2007, 01:41:35 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 16, 2007, 01:02:00 PM
Tir Na Nog by two,

Was not at it. so have no report on the Tir Na Nog social Club jumping Dromintee players.

you've obviously heard a few stories about what happened though corn. spill the beans...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 16, 2007, 01:44:34 PM
Haha as I said I was not there so it is not my place. Have heard alot of first hand accounts and the Tir Na Nog fans should be ashamed. I am sure someone on here was at the match so they can tell the story.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 16, 2007, 01:54:15 PM
Is it just another rumour or is it true that Peadar Toal is having problems with the Harps & perhaps leaving them?
Any of the Harps lads shed some light on this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 16, 2007, 01:54:52 PM
No supporters where involved in anything as the gates were locked! It was a row between players and management. Typically it was the O'Rourkes who started it. Martin O'Rourke was on the pitch no more than 2 minutes and he kicked a Portadown man in the face.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 16, 2007, 01:59:24 PM
Quote from: full back on April 16, 2007, 01:54:15 PM
Is it just another rumour or is it true that Peadar Toal is having problems with the Harps & perhaps leaving them?
Any of the Harps lads shed some light on this?

I hate to give nonsense the time of day, but there's too much sh1te floating about regarding the Harps lately.  It's balls!! Peadar togged out yesterday,warmed up but couldn't play as his ankle isn't fully recovered.

Go back to the ballix who filled you with this sh1te and hit him a slap.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 16, 2007, 02:04:30 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 16, 2007, 01:59:24 PM
Go back to the ballix who filled you with this sh1te and hit him a slap.

Jaysus Benny-he was only saying what he heard
Bit OTT-must be in bad form after yesterday ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: harps2002champs on April 16, 2007, 02:10:44 PM
Quote from: full back on April 16, 2007, 02:04:30 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 16, 2007, 01:59:24 PM
Go back to the ballix who filled you with this sh1te and hit him a slap.

Jaysus Benny-he was only saying what he heard
Bit OTT-must be in bad form after yesterday ;)

ur just right benny the source must have f**k all to talk about!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Passing_Interest on April 16, 2007, 02:42:33 PM
harps2002champs, benny,
Can I continue this theme on the Club thread ?
Cheers......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on April 16, 2007, 04:14:41 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on April 16, 2007, 01:54:52 PM
No supporters where involved in anything as the gates were locked! It was a row between players and management. Typically it was the O'Rourkes who started it. Martin O'Rourke was on the pitch no more than 2 minutes and he kicked a Portadown man in the face.

Yes the gates were locked but only after a handful of Tir Na Nog thugs had got onto the field and assaulted Dromintee seniors.  Were u watchin The chelsea match Tir? cause u werent watchin dromintee!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on April 16, 2007, 04:19:47 PM
QuoteNo supporters where involved in anything as the gates were locked!
You must have been as drunk as most of the fools of supporters who were supporting home team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 16, 2007, 04:26:34 PM
where was the game played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 16, 2007, 04:32:26 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on April 16, 2007, 04:26:34 PM
where was the game played?

portadown

were you lads at the game? what happened?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 16, 2007, 04:36:05 PM
wasnt at the game though heard there was no trouble through the hole game. just at the final whistle all hell broke loose!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on April 16, 2007, 04:46:02 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on April 16, 2007, 04:36:05 PM
wasnt at the game though heard there was no trouble through the hole game. just at the final whistle all hell broke loose!
Very timid match dont recall a yellow bein shown.  Dromintee were poor.  Ogs no 15 or 13, blonde lad, caused alot of damage before he was moved.  Ogs looked by far the fitter team.  Dromintee looked tired and unfit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 16, 2007, 05:13:46 PM

Good clean game of football all through then there was a bit of handbags at the final whistle. muchado about nothing and it all blew over. then 15 or 20 drunkards came onto the field as the teams were shaking hands and all hell broke loose. tir na nog players were mostly trying to stop it and get their social club members off the pitch. disgraceful, but sure nothing will be done as usual so there'll be no reason not to do it the next time again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 16, 2007, 05:35:18 PM
15-20? do you were glasses by any chance? Martin O'Rourke was sent onto the pitch to do one thing and that was to start a fight and at the end of the day it worked. Cathal started the whole fight at the end of the game by punching the tir na nog full back in the face.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 16, 2007, 06:02:26 PM


despite your pathetic attempts at justification, there was nothing dirty about the game. marty played the game as he always does and most defenders find him difficult to cope with. certainly the tir na nog players didn't appear to have any problems with him other than football ones.

write up as much propaganda as you like but those are the facts. the state of the drunks on the field (and trying to start on elderly dromintee supporters on the crowd) was disgraceful. tir na nog club shoul be held accountable for allowing so many hooligans through the gate onto the field of play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dexter on April 16, 2007, 06:27:59 PM
Nothing of note in the match until Dromintee sent on Martin O'Rourke & No.31 in the last 5 mins they were very aggressive stirring it up. Also Cathal O'Rourke punched the Tir na nOg cornerback in the back of the head & Jimmy McKee consulted the 2 umpires & then did nothing.
If Dromintee had of got a late goal & won the match like they did last year then it would have been a smile & a wink & a thank you very much, 'youse are great lads for keeping the game going up here in Portydown'. The truth is they couldn't take getting beat decided to throw a few punches at the final whistle & it was ginger haired Dromintee mentor or whatever he was , who kept the whole thing going.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on April 16, 2007, 06:35:20 PM
Tir na nOg, your yet to clarify your opening statement on this issue.
QuoteNo supporters where involved in anything as the gates were locked!
Is this true in your mind?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 16, 2007, 06:36:10 PM
Never heard as much shite in my life.

dromintee sent a county player on with 5 minutes to go while a point down just to start a row?

your summation of events doesn't even mention the drunken tir na nog "supporters" coming onto the field and assaulting dromintee players?

says it all about your agenda
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 16, 2007, 06:38:00 PM
QuoteThe truth is they couldn't take getting beat decided to throw a few punches at the final whistle & it was ginger haired Dromintee mentor or whatever he was , who kept the whole thing going.
It wasn't a big tall heavy man by any chance?  :D

Nothing that goes on in the game justifies people leaving the social club to start a row and I'd well believe the allegations about the O'Rourkes however
QuoteMartin O'Rourke was on the pitch no more than 2 minutes and he kicked a Portadown man in the face.
Tir na og players are no strangers to kicking others when they're on the ground either! Excuse me if I don't have any sympathy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 16, 2007, 06:46:28 PM
With the greatest of respect pog, thats a well peddled line against the o'rourkes, marty especially. i've been watching dromintee a long time and i've never seen marty o'rourke throw a dirty dig. he is very physical and robust, goes for everything, takes every opportunity to hit the opposition in the tackle and is a cantankerous fcuker but i've never seen him throw a box or kick anyone on the ground. it certainly didn't happen yesterday. obviously he's very difficult for the opposition to deal with and keep their composure and he played well for the brief period he was on yesterday. aidan just gets on with playing football. cathal on the other hand gets involved when he shouldn't and after roasting the full back in the first half got some tight "treatment" in the second. rightly so. that led to 3 or 4 skirmishes with his marker. cathal is singled out for blame on forums like this without mention of the ogs man because noone knows who the ogs player is.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Countdown on April 16, 2007, 07:39:03 PM
"Martin O'Rourke was on the pitch no more than 2 minutes and he kicked a Portadown man in the face."

Game was terrible to watch but agree with adavoyle why would Dromintee put a county player on with 5 minutes to go 1 point down to start a fight. Jus shows the typical townies. Marty hada jump over him after he nailed him with a fair shoulder. There was a bit of handbags during the game with Dromintees No14 and the Ogs No 4 but at the final whistle it was Ogs No 4 that started the row again. As for the drunkards what is it the GSE (Garvaghy Street elite)? Cant tolerate that Hooligan culture!   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 16, 2007, 09:19:56 PM
The only people that where on the pitch were players and management. They may not have been stripped out but they were still players. Never-the-less there was no call for what happened and both teams have to be held accountable. The blame cannot be souly placed on one team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on April 16, 2007, 09:25:53 PM
Im not putting blame on one team, but you are wrong. Yes players where involved, yes some mentors and players not togged out, but people not belonging to team made way onto field with sole intention but to fight, they went through the open gate, not locked gate as previously stated.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: banjoz on April 16, 2007, 10:13:06 PM
 >:(  I would just like to say I was present at the game on Sunday and contrary to what is being said on this web site there was certainly no one drunk on the pitch - as the social club was not even open until after the match.  This mayhem resulted in Dromintee not being able to take a beaten.  I was more than surprised at sheer lack of sportsmanship.  I was standing beside some Dromintee supporters who themselves were disgusted.  The person in question with the ginger hair from Dromintee, was beside me one minute and seconds later was like a mad man on the pitch throwing punches left, right and centre. 

When the two teams went to either end of the pitch, a member of our female team tried to help the situation by opening the bottom gate and she  was bombarded with abuse from the Dromintee team itself, who totally showed themselves up.

This is from someone who was at the match, not someone telling the story second and third hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on April 16, 2007, 10:32:12 PM
Quoteas the social club was not even open until after the match
I was sure it was opened at half time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on April 16, 2007, 10:35:21 PM
Quote from: banjoz on April 16, 2007, 10:13:06 PM
>:(  I would just like to say I was present at the game on Sunday and contrary to what is being said on this web site there was certainly no one drunk on the pitch - as the social club was not even open until after the match.  This mayhem resulted in Dromintee not being able to take a beaten.  I was more than surprised at sheer lack of sportsmanship.  I was standing beside some Dromintee supporters who themselves were disgusted.  The person in question with the ginger hair from Dromintee, was beside me one minute and seconds later was like a mad man on the pitch throwing punches left, right and centre. 

When the two teams went to either end of the pitch, a member of our female team tried to help the situation by opening the bottom gate and she  was bombarded with abuse from the Dromintee team itself, who totally showed themselves up.

This is from someone who was at the match, not someone telling the story second and third hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have heard on second hand accounts about what was said to the woman at the bottom gate and it wasn on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 16, 2007, 10:57:42 PM
Quote from: tackle on April 16, 2007, 10:35:21 PM
Quote from: banjoz on April 16, 2007, 10:13:06 PM
>:(  I would just like to say I was present at the game on Sunday and contrary to what is being said on this web site there was certainly no one drunk on the pitch - as the social club was not even open until after the match.  This mayhem resulted in Dromintee not being able to take a beaten.  I was more than surprised at sheer lack of sportsmanship.  I was standing beside some Dromintee supporters who themselves were disgusted.  The person in question with the ginger hair from Dromintee, was beside me one minute and seconds later was like a mad man on the pitch throwing punches left, right and centre. 

When the two teams went to either end of the pitch, a member of our female team tried to help the situation by opening the bottom gate and she  was bombarded with abuse from the Dromintee team itself, who totally showed themselves up.

This is from someone who was at the match, not someone telling the story second and third hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have heard on second hand accounts about what was said to the woman at the bottom gate and it wasn on.



would yis ever catch a grip o yerselves

what has any of this nonsense got to do with drunken supporters coming onto a pitch to assault the away team?

making stuff up doesn't cut it. there was a fella on the main gate to the pitch all day... even when the teams went out to warm up. even then he opened and closed only one side as people entered and exited (learning from previous bad experience i presume). when the game was over he had mysteriously disappeared and both sides of the gate were wide open.

The ginger boy was on the sideline the whole game so you would have had a job standing beside him for any part of the game. if you want to start identifying people i could post the name of 4 of the crowd of scumbags that came through the gate, including the boy with the ripped cheque shirt and jeans and one other who were the main culprits.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: banjoz on April 16, 2007, 11:21:22 PM
 >:( Tir-na-Nog social clubs do open at half time but only for the sale of soft drinks!!!  Alcohol is never sold until the game is finished.

The ginger haired bloke in question was indeed standing beside me on the bank however their was two ginger haired mad men on the pitch fighting.  You know what they say about ginger hair and bad tempers!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on April 17, 2007, 12:05:06 AM
Guys guys! Worse things happen at sea you know.

Anyway, congrats to the Portidown boys. Keep it going.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on April 17, 2007, 08:13:47 AM
As being a supporter at the game on sunday, i went in to go to the ladies toilets and i observed a number of people drinking achohol where did they get it from.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 17, 2007, 08:40:15 AM
Quote from: fan01 on April 17, 2007, 08:13:47 AM
As being a supporter at the game on sunday, i went in to go to the ladies toilets and i observed a number of people drinking achohol where did they get it from.

They had it in their handbags :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 17, 2007, 10:29:50 AM
What banjoz is saying is true, the socail club does not sell alcoholic drinks until the match has finished. It has always been that way. The ginger fella who was part of the dromintee management team or just a player who hadnt stripped tried to keep the fighting going as when both teams had left the pitch he was still looking to fight.

It was just a case of dromintee being sore losers both on and off the pitch ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TG4 on April 17, 2007, 10:33:10 AM
has anybody else heard that all league games will take place this saturday evening at 6.30 on account of the u21 semi-final being on sun at 3pm?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 17, 2007, 10:44:07 AM
Yes.
According to the Orchardcounty website all League games are on Saturday evening at 6.30pm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 17, 2007, 11:04:15 AM
Lads, i was at this game and the whole thing should never have happened. there was a bit of stuff between the teams at the final whistle all right but nothing major.

The problem was one of stewarding. when all was settled, some of the tir na nog crowd undoubtedly took to the field looking for retribution after how the initial row had panned out and 5 minutes of mayhem ensued. it's impossible for me to make any comment on alcohol levels as i wasn't close enough to anyone to know. during the game there was none of the verbals between supporters that you'd get at a cross or clans game. the supporters from each club were sort of in seperate places. that said, when the people from outside the wire spilled onto the pitch, it did get hairy on the bank as for some reason the dromintee support seem to al be in the over 50 category! lol.



anyway, in the grand scheme of things, who gives a shite and the only concern from a dromintee point if view should be that they lost to portadown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 17, 2007, 11:10:45 AM
Hi! Theres nothing wrong with losing to portadown lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 17, 2007, 11:46:16 AM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on April 17, 2007, 11:10:45 AM
Hi! Theres nothing wrong with losing to portadown lol

As long as it's not the championship, then there would be somthing wrong with losing to Porty :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 17, 2007, 11:58:11 AM
I think we have only played well in the championship once in about 3 or 4 years and we still got beat  :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on April 17, 2007, 01:25:23 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on April 17, 2007, 10:29:50 AM
What banjoz is saying is true, the socail club does not sell alcoholic drinks until the match has finished. It has always been that way. The ginger fella who was part of the dromintee management team or just a player who hadnt stripped tried to keep the fighting going as when both teams had left the pitch he was still looking to fight.

It was just a case of dromintee being sore losers both on and off the pitch ;D
i was there on sunday, it wasn't pretty but the most experienced man on the pitch has to take the blame for starting the whole thing. i have to admit my saddest thing of all was to hear that same player whom i have travelled all over ireland to watch when representing armagh said, 'when you portadown lads come to dromintee later in the year you'll leave in BAGS'. Not a great statement to come from a so called role model. :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 17, 2007, 01:33:24 PM
there is a lot of new posters on this issue

Quote'when you portadown lads come to dromintee later in the year you'll leave in BAGS'

although i must say i can remember a certain corner forward telling us we wouldnt get out of dromintee alive last year, about two minutes into the game. i thought it hillarious at the time!

anyway back to the topic. if portadown supporters were allowed to enter the feild to box the players its a disgrace. i always thought they were strict at keeping that gate closed for matches there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on April 17, 2007, 01:40:30 PM
As much as I agree that the O'roukes would start a row in hell, ala Harps game up in dromintee last year, personally I have seen before a large section of Tir na Og support drinking carryouts while watching a game of football. On one occasion I myself had to be restrained from a supporter who was giving constant vile abuse to a very young charlie Vernon at a U21 Championship game a few years back in Clomore.
Like most i enjoy a pint after a game but lads being aloud to drink from 'blue bags at league games is a receipe for disaster.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 17, 2007, 01:47:01 PM
Saturday 21 April Predictions...

ACL - Division I (6.30)
Whitecross v Crossmaglen (Tony O'Hare)    CROSSMAGLEN
Clan na Gael v Harps (Kevin Murtagh)          HARPS
Dromintee v Culloville (Eamon Nugent)        DROMINTEE
Maghery v Tir na nÓg (Jim Slevin)               TIR NA nOG
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og (Kevin McNeice)   MULLAGHBAWN


Any thoughts on this....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 17, 2007, 01:49:17 PM
Tir na nog are very strict about keeping the gate locked. I think it was when the referee was leaving some players who hadnt stripped out came onto the pitch.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 17, 2007, 01:50:52 PM
ACL - Division I (6.30)
Whitecross v Crossmaglen (Tony O'Hare)    CROSSMAGLEN
Clan na Gael v Harps (Kevin Murtagh)         CLAN NA GAEL
Dromintee v Culloville (Eamon Nugent)       DROMINTEE
Maghery v Tir na nÓg (Jim Slevin)              TIR NA NOG
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og (Kevin McNeice)  PEARSE OG
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 17, 2007, 01:56:07 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on April 17, 2007, 01:49:17 PM
I think it was when the referee was leaving some players who hadnt stripped out came onto the pitch.
Not from either club
Wasnt at the game & only heard what has been said on this forum.
Tir na nOg, how many players have you out injured? Why werent the players stripped out?
Sounds like by saying the people on the field were players who hadnt stripped out is a bit of a get out clause-IMHO
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 17, 2007, 01:57:32 PM

Whitecross v Crossmaglen (Tony O'Hare)    Crossmaglen
Clan na Gael v Harps (Kevin Murtagh)         Harps
Dromintee v Culloville (Eamon Nugent)       Dromintee
Maghery v Tir na nÓg (Jim Slevin)              Maghery
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og (Kevin McNeice)  Mullaghbawn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Portydown on April 17, 2007, 03:04:43 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on April 16, 2007, 06:46:28 PM
With the greatest of respect pog, thats a well peddled line against the o'rourkes, marty especially. i've been watching dromintee a long time and i've never seen marty o'rourke throw a dirty dig. he is very physical and robust, goes for everything, takes every opportunity to hit the opposition in the tackle and is a cantankerous fcuker but i've never seen him throw a box or kick anyone on the ground. it certainly didn't happen yesterday. obviously he's very difficult for the opposition to deal with and keep their composure and he played well for the brief period he was on yesterday. aidan just gets on with playing football. cathal on the other hand gets involved when he shouldn't and after roasting the full back in the first half got some tight "treatment" in the second. rightly so. that led to 3 or 4 skirmishes with his marker. cathal is singled out for blame on forums like this without mention of the ogs man because noone knows who the ogs player is.

well he did kick the tir na nog substitue! i should know...i have seen his his big nose and it reveals the evidence!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 17, 2007, 03:09:46 PM
my predictions last week were good  ::) but sure i'll give it another go...

Whitecross v Crossmaglen (Tony O'Hare)    Crossmaglen
Clan na Gael v Harps (Kevin Murtagh)         Clans
Dromintee v Culloville (Eamon Nugent)       Dromintee
Maghery v Tir na nÓg (Jim Slevin)              Maghery
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og (Kevin McNeice)  Pearse Og
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Portydown on April 17, 2007, 03:12:18 PM
Quote from: Final Countdown on April 16, 2007, 07:39:03 PM
"Martin O'Rourke was on the pitch no more than 2 minutes and he kicked a Portadown man in the face."

Game was terrible to watch but agree with adavoyle why would Dromintee put a county player on with 5 minutes to go 1 point down to start a fight. Jus shows the typical townies. Marty hada jump over him after he nailed him with a fair shoulder. There was a bit of handbags during the game with Dromintees No14 and the Ogs No 4 but at the final whistle it was Ogs No 4 that started the row again. As for the drunkards what is it the GSE (Garvaghy Street elite)? Cant tolerate that Hooligan culture!   

"nailed him with a fair shoulder" u say!? the tir na nog forward was bending down to pick up the ball and was hit by an illegal tackle from o'rourke who then decided to leave the boot in! and also the tir na nog lad wudnt have fell in a 50/50 shoulder challenge with o'rourke. i think it was young cusack and trust me, o'rourke would have came off worse!

in my view o'rourke was sent on to do 1 thing..and that was to start trouble and he succeeded! what sort of role model is he for the kids?? disgraceful i say!

^number 1 fan^
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 17, 2007, 03:52:02 PM
QuoteMaghery v Tir na nÓg (Jim Slevin)              Maghery

Surely Tir na nÓg have got to be favourites considering maghery will be without Lavery and Forker! Cant see those two fellas being allowed to play with the u21 match the next day.
Title: Portydown
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 17, 2007, 03:56:54 PM

Was there a free kick given for this alleged "assault"? Bear in mind McKee is virtually a non contact ref... Fair shoulder, your man was knocked over and dropped the ball.

You are obviously an idiot.

Do the decent thing and delete your brand new account
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 17, 2007, 04:11:24 PM
It was a fair shoulder from O'Rourke but it was the fact that he kicked the player in the face that annoyed alot of the Tir na nÓg support. As for Jimmy McKee he just infuriated everyone with the terrible decisions he was making throughout the whole match. He consulted both umpires the time that Cathal O'Rourke punched the corner back in the head and still done nothing about it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 17, 2007, 04:15:23 PM
McKee was as bad for both sides. are you really complaining that he took no action over something he didn't see. the umpire consultation would've went as follows:

tirnanog umpire: "he punched him". dromintee umpire "he never touched him".

edit - i never saw any kick, nor has anyone mentioned one til now. clean tackle from where i stood.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 17, 2007, 04:24:54 PM
I agree totally about the consultation of the two non neutral umpires. So how then Tir Na Og would you expext Jimmy Mc kee( who is a p***k) to take the word of them two. Maybe the county board could look at having  one neutral umpire at each side of the field. But i understand it would be tight on numbers as it is difficult enough to get refs. But with this incident and the one in tyrone it is time something was done.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 17, 2007, 04:25:43 PM
I never once said that jimmy mc kee wasnt as bad for both sides. He made terrible decision throughout the whole game for both teams.

Well I would have been a hell of alot closer to the tackle than you and he kicked the fella in the face, there is no doubt about that.

At the end of the day like someone has already mentioned if Dromintee would have scored a goal in the last few minutes and won there would have been no fighting, they would have shaken hands and said hard luck lads but because they were beat they couldn't take it. Sore losers.

Edited to say - I agree that that would have been the way the conversation would have went
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 17, 2007, 04:41:17 PM

Noone i've spoken to sawa kick either. is it possible there was accidental contact when he hurdled your man on the ground to get the ball?

Quote from: Tir na nÓg on April 17, 2007, 04:25:43 PM
At the end of the day like someone has already mentioned if Dromintee would have scored a goal in the last few minutes and won there would have been no fighting, they would have shaken hands and said hard luck lads but because they were beat they couldn't take it. Sore losers.

crystal ball gazing now. so there was a massive punch up last year when tir na nog beat dromintee too then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 17, 2007, 04:48:54 PM
I would have said that if I was standing on the hill because it would have looked that way, but when he was doing down you seen him intentionally kicking his boot out!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 17, 2007, 07:13:57 PM
QuoteBut with this incident and the one in tyrone it is time something was done.
Don't hold your breath.

Quote
At the end of the day like someone has already mentioned if Dromintee would have scored a goal in the last few minutes and won there would have been no fighting, they would have shaken hands and said hard luck lads but because they were beat they couldn't take it. Sore losers.
You know there's nothing worse than a bad winner and the way you're going on on this thread you'd think yous never won a game before!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangegael on April 17, 2007, 07:43:54 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on April 16, 2007, 06:46:28 PM
With the greatest of respect pog, thats a well peddled line against the o'rourkes, marty especially. i've been watching dromintee a long time and i've never seen marty o'rourke throw a dirty dig. he is very physical and robust, goes for everything, takes every opportunity to hit the opposition in the tackle and is a cantankerous fcuker but i've never seen him throw a box or kick anyone on the ground. it certainly didn't happen yesterday. obviously he's very difficult for the opposition to deal with and keep their composure and he played well for the brief period he was on yesterday. aidan just gets on with playing football. cathal on the other hand gets involved when he shouldn't and after roasting the full back in the first half got some tight "treatment" in the second. rightly so. that led to 3 or 4 skirmishes with his marker. cathal is singled out for blame on forums like this without mention of the ogs man because noone knows who the ogs player is.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangegael on April 17, 2007, 08:04:25 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on April 17, 2007, 04:25:43 PM
I never once said that jimmy mc kee wasnt as bad for both sides. He made terrible decision throughout the whole game for both teams.

Well I would have been a hell of alot closer to the tackle than you and he kicked the fella in the face, there is no doubt about that.

At the end of the day like someone has already mentioned if Dromintee would have scored a goal in the last few minutes and won there would have been no fighting, they would have shaken hands and said hard luck lads but because they were beat they couldn't take it. Sore losers.

Edited to say - I agree that that would have been the way the conversation would have went
cathal should have more sense he behaved like the school yard bully who when he gets beat takes the ball home he missed three easy frees that he would normally score plus tir na nog where way fitter than drumintee.the difference between cathal and martin orourke is about three stone
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 17, 2007, 08:41:40 PM
After reading all these allegations regarding this game I would hope that the County Board would step in and have an investigation into these incidents.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on April 17, 2007, 08:48:28 PM
Quote from: fan01 on April 17, 2007, 08:13:47 AM
As being a supporter at the game on sunday, i went in to go to the ladies toilets and i observed a number of people drinking achohol where did they get it from.

They had it in their handbags :D :D :D
[/quote]

sure men don't carry handbags, i don't see any south armagh men carrying handbags anyway. Ha Ha
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 17, 2007, 10:14:46 PM

This thread is now officially an embarrassment to tir na nog. reading it is like watching an episode of the office.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on April 18, 2007, 04:33:43 AM
Quote from: Uladh on April 17, 2007, 10:14:46 PM

This thread is now officially an embarrassment to tir na nog. reading it is like watching an episode of the office.


:D

Brilliant Uladh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 18, 2007, 09:23:03 AM
just readin the irish news this mornin. armagh have named 7 newcomers for the championship squad of 2007! they are brendan donaghy, kevin dyas, tony mclelland, kieran toner, james lavery, stefan forker and paudie mccreesh! those not included are tony and john mcentee(retired) jp donnelly (injured) aidan orourke paul mccormack liam ohare and gareth swift! also not included are martin ferris and paul forker who were on the national league squad!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on April 18, 2007, 09:26:22 AM
No McKenna either?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 18, 2007, 09:51:29 AM
Can this squad be added to later?

Also what are the ages of the 2 Forkers?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 18, 2007, 10:06:18 AM
I think this is it for the year although if some of the u-21's do the business they may be called into the squad??
Paul is about 20/21 and stefan is only around 19...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TG4 on April 18, 2007, 10:10:47 AM
has nippy swift been left off the panel or whats the story there? strange enuff move if hes been dropped as hes been ther for the last couple of years and i though they were grooming him for a midfield role in the near future. suppose its good for the harps if hes fit to play league games for them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 18, 2007, 10:33:11 AM
Glad to see we are moving on from that shite talk about Porty V Dromintee. The championship squad is in todays Irish News, def some good young fellas in there. Just hope they can adopt to senior championship quick, although you would expect to see the best of them lads in the next 2-3 years.

Some interesting games this sat night in the 1st div, can somebody put up the 2nd div fixtures??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 18, 2007, 10:38:58 AM
here ya are flynn

ACL - Division II (6.30)
Ballymacnab v St Peter's (Dessie McDonnell)
Carrickcruppen v Killeavey (Gerard Devlin)
Clann Eireann v Keady (Jim Burns)
Granemore v St Patrick's (Mickey Leonard)
St Michael's v Annaghmore (Henry McCloy)
Wolfe Tones v Silverbridge (Paul Boylan)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 18, 2007, 10:41:46 AM
squad still remains open joe stated that paul kernan and david mckenna could well be added in the near future!

ARMAGH ACL & COUNTY FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 2 APRIL 2007


Saturday 21 April

ACL - Division I (6.30)
Whitecross v Crossmaglen (Tony O'Hare)
Clan na Gael v Harps (Kevin Murtagh)
Dromintee v Culloville (Eamon Nugent)
Maghery v Tir na nÓg (Jim Slevin)
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og (Kevin McNeice)

ACL - Division II (6.30)
Ballymacnab v St Peter's (Dessie McDonnell)
Carrickcruppen v Killeavey (Gerard Devlin)
Clann Eireann v Keady (Jim Burns)
Granemore v St Patrick's (Mickey Leonard)
St Michael's v Annaghmore (Henry McCloy)
Wolfe Tones v Silverbridge (Paul Boylan)

ACL - Division III (6.30)
Clady v St Paul's (Stephen McKinley)
Clonmore v Madden (Damian McConville)
Collegeland v Lissummon (Jimmy McKee)
Crossmaglen II v An Port Mor (Stephen Murray)
Middletown v Ballyhegan (Oliver Hearty)
Tullysaran v Sarsfields (Kevin Gallogly)

ACL - Division IV (6.30)
Belleek v Shane O'Neill's (Brendan Gorman)
Corrinshego v Eire Og (Noel Martin)
Forkhill v Derrynoose (Barney Henry)
Mullaghbrack v Phelim Brady's (Ronan Quigley)
O'Hanlon's v Dorsey Emmett's (Jim Lynch)

County Feile Semi-Finals (6.30)
Crossmaglen v St Peter's (Malachy McNicholl) at Grange
Pearse Og v Shane O'Neill's (Seamus O'Neill) at Cullyhanna


Sunday 22 April

All-Ireland Under-21 Football Semi-Final (3.00)
Armagh v Cork at O'Moore Park, Portlaoise
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 18, 2007, 11:01:56 AM
How did Wolfe Tones and st.Michaels do last week? Do you think they will be going straight back up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 18, 2007, 11:14:06 AM
last weekends results

Sunday 15 April

Division I
Crossmaglen 2-9; Clan na Gael 1-4
Culloville 0-8; Whitecross 0-14
Harps 0-11; Mullaghbawn 1-10
Pearse Og 0-10; Maghery 1-7
Tir na nÓg 1-9; Dromintee 1-7

Division II
Annaghmore 1-10; Carrickcruppen 4-9
Keady 1-12; Granemore 1-15
Killeavey 4-13; Ballymacnab 0-7
St Patrick's v St Michael's (Off)
St Peter's 1-8; Wolfe Tones 1-15
Silverbridge v Clann Eireann (Off)

Division III
Ballyhegan 2-8; Clonmore 1-3
Lissummon 0-17; Crossmaglen II 0-8
Madden 0-17; Clady 1-6
St Paul's 2-5; Tullysaran 2-5
Sarsfields 2-11; Collegeland 1-9

Division IV
Derrynoose 0-14; Mullaghbrack 1-12
Eire Og 1-11; O'Hanlon's 0-5
Phelim Brady's 0-7; Grange 3-15
Shane O'Neill's 0-15; Corrinshego 0-6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: harps2002champs on April 18, 2007, 11:34:43 AM
Taken from BBC

Goalkeepers: P Hearty, C McKinney

Defenders: F Bellew, B Donaghy, P Duffy, K Dyas, A Kernan, A Mallon, T McClelland, P McCreesh, K McGeeney, C McKeever, E McNulty, F Moriarty

Midfielders: P McGrane (capt), P Loughran, K Toner, C Vernon

Forwards: S Forker, P Keenan, S Kernan, J Lavery, M Machin, D Marsden, O McConville, S McDonnell, P McKeever, Martin O'Rourke, P Toal, R Clarke, B Mallon


Can someone try and justify how the f**k S Kernan is still on the panel, i know he his joes son but it baffles me how he can stay on the panel. He has been tried and tested on numerous occasions and he aint county standard. He is even struggling to make the cross team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 18, 2007, 11:41:33 AM
QuoteCan someone try and justify how the f**k S Kernan is still on the panel, i know he his joes son but it baffles me how he can stay on the panel. He has been tried and tested on numerous occasions and he aint county standard. He is even struggling to make the cross team.

have to agree how can he be included when he cant make the startin 15 with his club! joe seems to be showin favouritism towards his son!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 18, 2007, 11:49:16 AM
Why have the BBC got Kieran Toner in Midfield? Is he not a full back?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 18, 2007, 11:50:25 AM
surprised at swifts omission.

No micheal o'rourke either?

From what i hear Joe keeps SK there for entertainment value... the other lads wouldn't have anything to laugh about if he was finally put out of his misery.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 18, 2007, 12:00:20 PM
Quote from: Uladh on April 18, 2007, 11:50:25 AM


From what i hear Joe keeps SK there for entertainment value... the other lads wouldn't have anything to laugh about if he was finally put out of his misery.



BRILLIANT!!!  :D :D :D
Sure if SK wasn't on the panel who else would tell the lads how to play football over breakfast in the carrickdale.... lol ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 18, 2007, 12:01:32 PM
QuoteNo micheal o'rourke either?

micheal is still there!

Quote[Why have the BBC got Kieran Toner in Midfield? Is he not a full back?/quote]

kieran lined out at midfield against westmeath before retirin injured! maybe thats why!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armamike on April 18, 2007, 12:27:27 PM
Disappointed that Swift and O'Rourke the younger haven't made the squad. McKenna and Hanratty are worth a look also. Big O'Neill could be tried as option on the square - has more physically about him than Loughran. Not so sure about Paul Kernan at this stage but then again, Donaghy and McCreesh haven't done much to inspire. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 18, 2007, 12:34:48 PM
as i already said micheal is still on the squad!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: harps2002champs on April 18, 2007, 01:03:11 PM
Quote from: Armamike on April 18, 2007, 12:27:27 PM
Not so sure about Paul Kernan at this stage but then again, Donaghy and McCreesh haven't done much to inspire. 

Im sure Paul kernan should NOT be on the squad. Im not anti-kernan, Aaron is a good footballer and deserves his place but paul hasnt proved his worth yet.
If big joe wasnt the manager then it would be a different story. This being the case maybe he has run his course. Dont get me wrong he has done a great job but if he continually puts stephen in squads then maybe his priorities are no longer where they should be!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 18, 2007, 01:15:50 PM
Quote from: harps2002champs on April 18, 2007, 01:03:11 PM
Quote from: Armamike on April 18, 2007, 12:27:27 PM
Not so sure about Paul Kernan at this stage but then again, Donaghy and McCreesh haven't done much to inspire. 

Im sure Paul kernan should NOT be on the squad. Im not anti-kernan, Aaron is a good footballer and deserves his place but paul hasnt proved his worth yet.
If big joe wasnt the manager then it would be a different story. This being the case maybe he has run his course. Dont get me wrong he has done a great job but if he continually puts stephen in squads then maybe his priorities are no longer where they should be!

I'm not sure about that, i def think we should have had another 2 all-irelands. One def from Brian McAlinden era and JK def lost us at least one, he def comes accross as being biased to several different clicks and clubs. As people have said on this board b4, The big Harps man must have been the brains behind the setup. Time will tell
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 18, 2007, 01:55:23 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 18, 2007, 01:15:50 PM
The big Harps man must have been the brains behind the setup. Time will tell
Ogs man??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TG4 on April 18, 2007, 01:58:50 PM
can anybody confirm the dates for the 1st round of the club championships?are they on the week after armagh play donegal in the championship,which would be the weekend of the 2/3rd of june?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 18, 2007, 02:00:25 PM
The first round of the championship is on the weekend of the 1st-3rd of June.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on April 18, 2007, 02:00:34 PM
O'Rourke isn't in according to the BBC anyway, have you a different source Ard Mhaca Abu?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 18, 2007, 02:01:56 PM
yeah he's a friend of mine!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 18, 2007, 02:05:13 PM
also if u go to irishnews.com pdf edition nd page 68 it will tell u there!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on April 18, 2007, 02:08:51 PM
Quote from: gander on April 18, 2007, 02:00:34 PM
O'Rourke isn't in according to the BBC anyway, have you a different source Ard Mhaca Abu?

The IN has him in but I think it's a typo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 18, 2007, 02:13:12 PM
QuoteThe IN has him in but I think it's a typo

what u mean typo?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 18, 2007, 02:13:52 PM
Quote from: Candyman on April 18, 2007, 01:55:23 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 18, 2007, 01:15:50 PM
The big Harps man must have been the brains behind the setup. Time will tell
Ogs man??? ???

Sorry about that chief, i knew there was some Grimleys connected with the Ogs i thought it was the older brother that used to have the beard (or maybe still does). Anyway you know what i meant!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 18, 2007, 02:23:28 PM
Schoolboy error illdecide
Displaying a shocking lack of knowledge :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 18, 2007, 02:59:26 PM
My God, I have had a good laugh on this forum. The Tir Na Nogs posterts or poster, has made a fool of them/him self. The facts speak for themselves, drunken Tir Na Nog players entered the fray and caused mayhem.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 18, 2007, 03:14:01 PM
F**k sake I thought we had got past all this. Both teams were as guilty as the other and both teams should be ashamed of their actions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 18, 2007, 03:26:57 PM
Exactly both teams should be ashamed, the Tir Na Nog louts should be disgraced.
Title: A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth gets its pants on
Post by: Harold Disgracey on April 18, 2007, 04:05:56 PM
I thought this shit was finished.

Permit me on last comment on the Dromintee/Portadown game.

This is an incident that should not have happened, but there is no doubt as to who the instigators/aggressors were and it wasn't the home team.

The issue that has prompted some new Tír na nÓg posters to comment is the scandalous accusation that 15-20 drunken supporters rushed on to the field to attack the poor wee innocent Dromintee players. Absolute bullshit. The Tír na nÓg players were most definitely sober, I can't comment on the crazed Dromintee lunatics.

The fact of the matter is that a small number of spectators form both sides managed to get on the field as the referee was exiting the gates, again this should not have happened.

I can only guess at the reasons for Dromintee contributors posting this crap, but I know the source.

A question for the aesthetically challenged ones.

Would you care to comment on the crass death threats made to one of our players on the field and in subsequent phone calls to the club?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on April 18, 2007, 04:12:25 PM
Shocking squad,
QuoteGoalkeepers: P Hearty, C McKinney

Defenders: F Bellew, B Donaghy, P Duffy, K Dyas, A Kernan, A Mallon, T McClelland, P McCreesh, K McGeeney, C McKeever, E McNulty, F Moriarty

Midfielders: P McGrane (capt), P Loughran, K Toner, C Vernon

Forwards: S Forker, P Keenan, S Kernan, J Lavery, M Machin, D Marsden, O McConville, S McDonnell, P McKeever, Martin O'Rourke, P Toal, R Clarke, B Mallon
Bold highlighting my p;ayers who would not make panel, possibly a few more i.e Donaghy & Forker, but reasonable U21 campaigns have earned the a chance for them.
Was afriad Swift was going to be dropped especially after he was stil on bench v Westmeath when that waste space SK was put on instead.
How a man can justify that selection is beyond me, though in saying that no wonder Paul & Tony weren't brought in, that get them a few more headlines, beyond time this man made his way out of Armgah mangement a give all those non-kernans and non-crossmen a decent chance, with a level playing field.
Title: Re: A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth gets its pants on
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 18, 2007, 04:18:44 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on April 18, 2007, 04:05:56 PM
I thought this shit was finished.

Permit me on last comment on the Dromintee/Portadown game.

This is an incident that should not have happened, but there is no doubt as to who the instigators/aggressors were and it wasn't the home team.

The issue that has prompted some new Tír na nÓg posters to comment is the scandalous accusation that 15-20 drunken supporters rushed on to the field to attack the poor wee innocent Dromintee players. Absolute bullshit. The Tír na nÓg players were most definitely sober, I can't comment on the crazed Dromintee lunatics.

The fact of the matter is that a small number of spectators form both sides managed to get on the field as the referee was exiting the gates, again this should not have happened.

I can only guess at the reasons for Dromintee contributors posting this crap, but I know the source.

A question for the aesthetically challenged ones.

Would you care to comment on the crass death threats made to one of our players on the field and in subsequent phone calls to the club?




Good man Harold.

there's nothing like a good bout of absolute shite talk to disturb the hornets nest.

sequence of events:

players had handbags on pitch and it blows over. happens everywhere.

Tir nan nog "supporters" (questionable sobriety) come onto the pitch and all hell breaks loose.

5 minutes later all is over.

Stop making stuff up.

who cares.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 18, 2007, 04:23:05 PM
QuoteGood man Harold.

there's nothing like a good bout of absolute shite talk to disturb the hornets nest.

sequence of events:

players had handbags on pitch and it blows over. happens everywhere.

Tir nan nog "supporters" (questionable sobriety) come onto the pitch and all hell breaks loose.

5 minutes later all is over.

Stop making stuff up.

who cares.

Seconded. Just get over it. These things happen from time to time although they shouldn't, making up rumours and stating so called facts that you have no way of proving is just stupid. Just leave it alone its been discussed and move on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on April 18, 2007, 04:42:07 PM
Sorry about that, I'm just hacked off with the lies being posted by the likes of Corn.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 18, 2007, 06:40:40 PM
QuoteGoalkeepers: P Hearty, C McKinney

Defenders: F Bellew, B Donaghy, P Duffy, K Dyas, A Kernan, A Mallon, T McClelland, P McCreesh, K McGeeney, C McKeever, E McNulty, F Moriarty

Midfielders: P McGrane (capt), P Loughran, K Toner, C Vernon

Forwards: S Forker, P Keenan, S Kernan, J Lavery, M Machin, D Marsden, O McConville, S McDonnell, P McKeever, Martin O'Rourke, P Toal, R Clarke, B Mallon

I wouldnt have the players in bold on the panel.  I'm amazed swift was dropped, I'll be amazed if it's confirmed young O'Rourke didnt make it. 
As for Stephen Kernan, well what can you say! I'm embarrassed for him, it's even more embarrassing than the big picture they've stuck to the window of the house  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 18, 2007, 07:07:36 PM

LOL

:D

Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 18, 2007, 06:40:40 PM
I'm embarrassed for him, it's even more embarrassing than the big picture they've stuck to the window of the house  ::)


Now that is David Brent central
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on April 18, 2007, 07:49:15 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 18, 2007, 06:40:40 PM
QuoteGoalkeepers: P Hearty, C McKinney

Defenders: F Bellew, B Donaghy, P Duffy, K Dyas, A Kernan, A Mallon, T McClelland, P McCreesh, K McGeeney, C McKeever, E McNulty, F Moriarty

Midfielders: P McGrane (capt), P Loughran, K Toner, C Vernon

Forwards: S Forker, P Keenan, S Kernan, J Lavery, M Machin, D Marsden, O McConville, S McDonnell, P McKeever, Martin O'Rourke, P Toal, R Clarke, B Mallon

I wouldnt have the players in bold on the panel.  I'm amazed swift was dropped, I'll be amazed if it's confirmed young O'Rourke didnt make it. 
As for Stephen Kernan, well what can you say! I'm embarrassed for him, it's even more embarrassing than the big picture they've stuck to the window of the house  ::)

What picture?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 18, 2007, 08:45:39 PM
Why would you not have McClelland on the panel? I thought he has played well this year. I def wouldn't have the other three that you have highlighted in bold. Apparently it was lack of effort/wrong attitude for Swift but thats only a rumour I heard.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on April 18, 2007, 09:19:47 PM
Aiden O'Rourke instead of P McCreesh and, anyone, but particularly M O'Rourke instead of S Kernan!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on April 18, 2007, 09:37:24 PM
The team announced is a mixture of the very yound and the very old, with Aaron Kernan and Martic O'Rourke in the middle.

Afraid to say but it looks like it will be a short summer.

The minors dont seem to be that hot either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 18, 2007, 09:41:25 PM
Orior there is/was (I don't know if it's still there) a big picture stuck up on one of the windows of the house of the boys togged out in the rangers stuff.  It's a pity, they don't seem bad lads. (I was in the rangers hall the night they were running a big fundraiser and they were the only county players there and Aaron spent the night selling raffle tickets)

Tirnanog I just don't think he's up to it, no harm to the lad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 18, 2007, 10:17:18 PM
Haha Harold, Jesus man you are talking some tripe. So please one last time are you honestly saying no Tir Na Nog fans with drink in them stormed the field and attacked Dromintee players? It would be surreal if you denied this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on April 18, 2007, 10:26:15 PM
How can people say this team is past. This is a totally new team from previous years. From the hoganstand panel there's only 10 players from 2002. The post about the panel having the very young and very old is true but it may be the right blend. A well oiled machine ready for action.

Anyone know if Nippy, Paul Kernan, wtc will still be training with the panel?

ans as for stephen kernan ffs catch a gud tight grip o ur tool.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on April 19, 2007, 12:36:36 AM
Quote from: Orior on April 18, 2007, 09:37:24 PM
The team announced is a mixture of the very yound and the very old, with Aaron Kernan and Martic O'Rourke in the middle.

Afraid to say but it looks like it will be a short summer.

The minors dont seem to be that hot either.

Ach don't be so pessimistic Orior. If we can survive the first few rounds of the qualifiers and gradually get Clarke and Mallon up to match fitness with Marsden a bit sharper there'll be enough there to put it up to any team in the country.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 19, 2007, 12:39:24 AM
Armagh are a championship team, a cliche i know. But true! Well by feck I hope so.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on April 19, 2007, 12:45:19 AM
QuoteIf we can survive the first few rounds of the qualifiers and gradually get Clarke and Mallon up to match fitness with Marsden a bit sharper there'll be enough there to put it up to any team in the country.

But survival will cause a few gray hairs among the fans before then.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 19, 2007, 02:19:18 AM
One question becae i know he will start in the championship. How can Mc Geeney be match fit? People are talking about Marsden not being sharp. I can tell you he is a hell of a lot fitter in terms of running ability than mc Geeney. This man will be playing at the heart of our defence. I am not criticising him( because of his past with the county) but i think Kernan would need to bear this in mind.
         I also wouldn't like to think the rumour of death threats were true. What ever happened to just beating lumps out of each other and forgetting about it ater the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 19, 2007, 08:14:59 AM
Quote from: holylandsniper on April 18, 2007, 04:12:25 PM
Shocking squad,
QuoteGoalkeepers: P Hearty, C McKinney

Defenders: F Bellew, B Donaghy, P Duffy, K Dyas, A Kernan, A Mallon, T McClelland, P McCreesh, K McGeeney, C McKeever, E McNulty, F Moriarty

Midfielders: P McGrane (capt), P Loughran, K Toner, C Vernon

Forwards: S Forker, P Keenan, S Kernan, J Lavery, M Machin, D Marsden, O McConville, S McDonnell, P McKeever, Martin O'Rourke, P Toal, R Clarke, B Mallon
Bold highlighting my p;ayers who would not make panel,

I'm surprised so many would look rid of Paddy McKeever. At a time when we are struggling for scoring forwards, why on earth would you let Paddy go??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 19, 2007, 08:20:47 AM
QuoteI'm surprised so many would look rid of Paddy McKeever. At a time when we are struggling for scoring forwards, why on earth would you let Paddy go??




dont get me wrong think paddy is well worth his place but he hasnt been performin up to scratch of late!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on April 19, 2007, 08:54:19 AM
QuoteI'm surprised so many would look rid of Paddy McKeever. At a time when we are struggling for scoring forwards, why on earth would you let Paddy go??
Goats you obviously have yet to Armagh play this year, i'd expect a scoring forward to score 21 yard free.
Any ideas why Swift is gone?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 19, 2007, 09:16:15 AM
I've seen Armagh quite a bit this year - all the home games & Galway.

It is not a coincidence that Armagh's half forward line doesn't impress. The play is by passing them, as Armagh play direct football to the full forward line.

Martin O'Rourke features strongly because it is his job to get in round the midfielders for the breaking ball.

Maybe he should be played in the full forward line...like he is at Ballyhegan this last couple of years!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 19, 2007, 09:24:00 AM
QuoteBallyhegan 2:08 - Clonmore 1:03

Strong start for the Davitts with Paddy McKeever scoring 1:06 from full forward.

maybe paddy would be an option at full forward!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 19, 2007, 10:25:58 AM
Clonmore  v  Donegal ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 19, 2007, 10:29:09 AM
QuoteClonmore  v  Donegal

i no its a big step up, though i'd imagine the supply of ball from them armagh players would be alot better than that of the ballyhegan players!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 19, 2007, 10:32:24 AM
With no disrespect to Clonmore or PMK, scoring 1-06 against Clonmore at home in the 1st round of the league does not IMO constitute an option at full forward for the championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 19, 2007, 10:40:30 AM
Of course he's an option! So is Francie Bellew in Full Forward!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 19, 2007, 10:46:13 AM
Paddy played up top with stevie quite a bit in the league this year to similar effect as his half forward efforts. a full game against laois and half of the louth and down games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 19, 2007, 12:49:49 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on April 18, 2007, 10:26:15 PM
How can people say this team is past. This is a totally new team from previous years. From the hoganstand panel there's only 10 players from 2002. The post about the panel having the very young and very old is true but it may be the right blend. A well oiled machine ready for action.

Anyone know if Nippy, Paul Kernan, wtc will still be training with the panel?

ans as for stephen kernan ffs catch a gud tight grip o ur tool.

i heard nippy turned up to training the other night and big joe told him to go home.  From that i would think he'll not be training with them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 19, 2007, 02:05:52 PM
very true!!! What a shitty way to break news like that to someone!! he was getting changed and kernan went in and "had a word" with him, next thing nippy was walking outta the grounds with his bag over his shoulder.... Any decent creature would have called the lad instead of that tripe??? :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on April 19, 2007, 04:32:04 PM
Quote from: Candyman on April 19, 2007, 02:05:52 PM
very true!!! What a shitty way to break news like that to someone!! he was getting changed and kernan went in and "had a word" with him, next thing nippy was walking outta the grounds with his bag over his shoulder.... Any decent creature would have called the lad instead of that tripe??? :-\
Not the first time joe has treated Respected county players very very very badly!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on April 19, 2007, 05:10:44 PM
Quote from: Candyman on April 19, 2007, 02:05:52 PM
very true!!! What a shitty way to break news like that to someone!! he was getting changed and kernan went in and "had a word" with him, next thing nippy was walking outta the grounds with his bag over his shoulder.... Any decent creature would have called the lad instead of that tripe??? :-\

If true, that's out of order - as simple as that!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 19, 2007, 05:13:17 PM
Hardly the first time he has done it though , is it Rufus?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 19, 2007, 05:16:49 PM
"If true" being the main words of that statement Rufus.

A man told me is not conclusive evidence in my book.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 19, 2007, 05:21:37 PM
What? I thought only the truths were spoken on the Armagh thread?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on April 19, 2007, 06:03:52 PM
I'm not exactly sure what happened (main reason being my name is not Nippy or Joe), but I think Nippy had been told before that, but turned up anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on April 19, 2007, 07:24:08 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 19, 2007, 05:16:49 PM
"If true" being the main words of that statement Rufus.

A man told me is not conclusive evidence in my book.

At the risk of getting into a circular debate, I have nothing in the way of evidence BC, therefore the use of the words if true. 

Quote from: thebandit on April 19, 2007, 06:03:52 PM
I'm not exactly sure what happened (main reason being my name is not Nippy or Joe), but I think Nippy had been told before that, but turned up anyway.

And again, if true, then that's fair enough. I would be the first to say that there is no nice way to pass on that news.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 19, 2007, 07:43:45 PM
Quotevery true!!! What a shitty way to break news like that to someone!! he was getting changed and kernan went in and "had a word" with him, next thing nippy was walking outta the grounds with his bag over his shoulder.... Any decent creature would have called the lad instead of that tripe???
I wouldnt be surprised...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ExiledGael on April 19, 2007, 08:30:49 PM
Pardon the ignorance but who's nippy?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 19, 2007, 08:55:28 PM
Gareth Swift - Harps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 19, 2007, 11:26:24 PM
Rufus, I know you're form and that was not really directed at you.  People on here know where my loyalties lie and I have made no bones about it, so people can say I am just sticking up for Joe, but things have been posted as fact by a few people without abcking them up or even knowing exactly what happened.  It is just as likely that things happened as the bandit posted, than as was posted by candyman.  The caveat I would state is the bandit is a Monaghan man who follows Armagh, Candyman is a Harps man who follows Armagh.  One may have a vested interest the other may not.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 20, 2007, 02:15:08 AM
He is a big bad one anyway there are far better players in the county than swift. Although in his favour he wasn't the worst on the team and IF that was the way he was dropped then Kernan needs to take a look at his man management skills. Before i get the harps rhetorc about how good he is, keep in mind what he has achieved????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 20, 2007, 09:34:08 AM
F.A.O BC1:

My source is a certain client who was in the changing rooms when it happened! cant get much more truthfull than that... ::)
Anyway its a bonus for Na Clairsigh!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: harps2002champs on April 20, 2007, 10:01:52 AM
Quote from: Candyman on April 20, 2007, 09:34:08 AM
F.A.O BC1:

My source is a certain client who was in the changing rooms when it happened! cant get much more truthfull than that... ::)
Anyway its a bonus for Na Clairsigh!!!

correcto huge bonus for the the harps and for nippy himself, good to have him back playing every week
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on April 20, 2007, 10:05:43 AM
I rang Joes office one day to enquire about the price of a site.  They said Joe would ring me back and he never did.   If this is the way he treats potential customers I can only guess how he treats fringe players!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 20, 2007, 10:07:36 AM
Quotecorrecto huge bonus for the the harps and for nippy himself, good to have him back playing every week

have to agree totally dont think nippy deserved to be dropped though i think playin football on a regular basis will make him a better player and definately a huge boast for the harps!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on April 20, 2007, 10:11:56 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 19, 2007, 11:26:24 PM
The caveat I would state is the bandit is a Monaghan man who follows Armagh

And ur a Cullyhanna man who follows Cross ;D

IMO Swift would be far better with a year of club football anyway. Is Micheal O'Rourke on the panel or not?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 20, 2007, 10:17:04 AM
Micheal O'Rourke is on the panel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 20, 2007, 10:19:55 AM
Figure it out, bandit.  Mother from Mullghbawn and all her brothers/nephews play/played for them.  I went to shool in Cyullyhanna.  I grew up with all my best friends being Bridge men.  I don't really know who I am ;)

In regards to Nippy I think the only ones who really know what happened are the parties involved.  I am not saying that he wasn't sent home from training, but who here knows for definite that he wasn't told before hand.  Nobody here knows the whole story.

It is probably better for him as a player though as playing football more regularly can only improve his ability.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 20, 2007, 10:27:40 AM
well if he was told before hand he'd some set of balls on him to turn up to train after bein told he wasn't part of the squad????
Anyway as I said, Na Clairsigh win all-round...END OF!!! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 20, 2007, 10:52:35 AM
BC, I don't expect you to answer this question for obvious reasons, but surely even you can see that by Joe keeping Stephen on the panel whilst dropping other fringe players can only increase the allegations made by our Dromintee posters (for example) that Joe doesn't treat everyone on their merits.

We all know the poor game that SK had at CHF during the 1st half v Fermanagh (last year??) and the fact that he isn't a regular starter for his club yet still merits a place on the county panel starts to stretch the bounds of credibility IMO.

OK, in his defence our half forward line is our weakest and we may have enough midfielders in our panel to justify dropping Nippy, but ....................
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on April 20, 2007, 11:03:38 AM
I have to say, the thought of Nippy making the long walk out the gates at Pentonville, with the bag over his shoulder as the squad trains, would annoy me. 

Either way though, this is good news for the Harps and I believe in the long term good news for Nippy. Nippy has the potential for County football - hopefully he will go away more determined to prove that.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 20, 2007, 11:20:55 AM
Joe, I am not afraid to answer any question asked of me, and I know that my feelings on this subject go against the grain of many people here for a number of reasons.

In my view, on his ability alone Stephen Kernan deserves to be a member of the Armagh squad.  I have seen him playing from a very early age and he has vision and brains which would out strip many season players.  He has a great ability to hit that defence splitting ball when he is on his game and can create and take chances.  

What I would say though is he is very much a confidence player.  When things are running for him he can be excellent when things are not running for his game suffers.  If he was an ordinary player this would go un-noticed, but unfortunately for him he is the managers son and is therefore is in the spotlight moreso than your ordinary joe player.  He is also human and reads papers, discussion boards, hears conversations and knows what people are saying about him.  I know what my confidence would be like if I had every game analysed the way his performances are by the posters on this board for instance.  People who analyse games and have no real experience of playing do not understand how a player works.  They may be able to see the nuances of the game but that is different than getting inside players minds.  I can't tell people not to criticise him, but I do think the absolute gutting he gets on here and other places is viscious and really very counter productive.  From what I know of the posters from Armagh who are on here, outside of myself, Rufus is the one who has most knowledge of playing the game and thankfully he also has an ability to see things differently than other posters.  I am not saying we are more knowledgeable but when it comes to knowing how players tick, I think you cannot get into that until you have played the game.

I also think that Stephen fully on his game would be a permanent fixture on the Cross team without question.  In many ways it is harder for him to get on there as he is a half forward or midfielder.  The midfield and CHF postions are concrete set at the minute with the twins and McKenna, of the two wing forwards you have Martin Aherne, who to my mind is the most under-rated player on the Cross team and John Murtagh.  They are excellent players and could push for county panel positions themselves.  Stephen is best suited to being CHF and it is difficult to get that in the Cross team, but their is an opening in that position for Armagh.  Will he play there in championship, I don't know,but if he is given a chance to develop, without the sword hanging over his head, I think you would see a much improved player.  Just remember the attitude of some people to McDonnell over recent years when his form dipped.  He was hung out on a number of occassions.

In regards to bias against Dromintee posters, they have a major issue with Joe from the days he didn't keep Barry Shannon on the squad and this was worsened by dropping Aidan.  For what it is worth I think Aidan should be there still and I think that was a mistake by Joe.  However, the 3 Dromintee players that are there now are the ones who certaily deserve to be there.  I cannot think of any others who should but I am open to suggestions.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on April 20, 2007, 11:40:45 AM
"Figure it out, bandit.  Mother from Mullghbawn and all her brothers/nephews play/played for them.  I went to shool in Cyullyhanna.  I grew up with all my best friends being Bridge men.  I don't really know who I am."

BC1,

you any relation to the Ferris' of Mullaghbawn?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on April 20, 2007, 11:46:27 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 20, 2007, 10:19:55 AM
Figure it out, bandit.  Mother from Mullghbawn and all her brothers/nephews play/played for them.  I went to shool in Cyullyhanna.  I grew up with all my best friends being Bridge men.  I don't really know who I am ;)

All yhour friends were from the Bridge because you lived in the Bridge stronghold of Creggan ;D

With regard to Stephen Kernan, I don't know him too well but I believe he is a civil lad, and I rather see a hateful **** get a roasting on a discussion board.  However, my opinion on him is that he is a very useful player on the ball, as BC1 says he has great vision and can pass a ball very well.  The problem he has is that he can't get on the ball enough, shaking a marker at club level to gain possession is alot easier that shaking a county defender.  For this reason I would question his county credentials.  I couple of years ago I marked him and stuck to him fairly tight, I was playing wing half back - he didn't do an awful lot (not bragging or anything, I was average).  In the second half he was moved onto the 40', our centre half was told to hold his position and Stephen proceeded to beat us on his own.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 20, 2007, 12:03:13 PM
regardin the championship squad being named! who do you think will make an impact on the starting line and a a sub?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 20, 2007, 12:09:12 PM
St Paul's i am related to the boys and the Quinns.

I may have lived in Creggan but I was in the salubrious Cullyhanna part as you full well know ;D  All the rest of on the other side of the playpark were in the bad side of the village "spit" :P  In fairness Nail I should have included you in the posters who played football at a decent level.....then again maybe not ;D  The Glassdrumman parish townlands league against Drumbally and Carnally is not high enough, and anyway Colin Campbell always gave you a roasting ;D

But you are right about Stephen in that he can struggle at wing forward but put him in the middle, get him on the ball and he is deadly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on April 20, 2007, 12:14:22 PM
The football mightn't have been of the highest standard BC1, but the physical exchanges prepared you well for senior football ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on April 20, 2007, 02:34:46 PM
For anyone who thinks SK hasn't the ability, think back to All Ireland Under 21 win - he was outstanding.

BC is right, he is obviously a confidence player and criticism thereof is counter-productive, although he seems to get a fairly vicious stream of criticism at times.

Aaron went through a rocky patch a few years ago when he was on the Cross team that won Junior, the Cross ones were giving him a fair bit of stick, anyone who thinks they were right to maintain 'he shouldn't be on the B team' needed their heads examined. Ollie Short said at the time that Aaron would shine at a higher standard of football and people laughed at him - turns out he was right.

BTW I'm surprised David McKenna didn't get a call up,


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: southofnorth on April 20, 2007, 03:21:27 PM
Quote from: thebandit on April 20, 2007, 02:34:46 PM

BTW I'm surprised David McKenna didn't get a call up,


Apparently McKenna was called up but didn't want to go this year.  He's had a fairly long and tough season.
Title: Senior Championship
Post by: wotsit on April 20, 2007, 04:43:45 PM
Has anyone got any predictions on how the senior championship matches are going to go, or even any prices
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 20, 2007, 06:17:48 PM
BC
QuoteIf he was an ordinary player this would go un-noticed, but unfortunately for him he is the managers son and is therefore is in the spotlight moreso than your ordinary joe player.
If he was an ordinary player he'd have been dropped a long time ago!


btw, when did you start spelling like a brit?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armamike on April 20, 2007, 07:45:27 PM
Steven Kernan has the ability alright, it's just that it hasn't really happened at senior level yet. He was a key player for the u21 team, no doubt about that.  As BC says he's there on potential, rather than perfromances to date.  He also is benefiting from the fact that Armagh are not exactly flush in the CHF department, esp. with John McEntee retiring.  In comparison, Gareth Swift has lost his place due to the no. of possible choices all vying for one of two places in midfield (he could have been tried at full forward though, which is another debate).  Armagh are short on playmakers, and that would be the reason i would think that SK is still there.  He is 24 though now, and has been on the panel a couple of years. He will know himself that he needs to start showing a bit more if/when he gets his chance in the championship.  Marsden would be my no.1 choice to start at CHF in the championship. He has the vision and passing ability to still play this  role, and play it well for Armagh.  I would like to see a half forward line with himself and Toal and Vernon either side (Vernon tried on the left as a counter to Aaron Kernan attacking down the right). Joe also has the option of keeping Martin O'Rourke in there in place of Vernon or Toal for the hard graft and a bit more balance. I think we're fooked if he decides to play Paddy McKeever AND Martin O'Rourke in the same line.

Title: Francie Bellew
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on April 20, 2007, 10:13:17 PM
Bad news babies - I'm hearing from a very reliable source (of mine) some very bad news about Francis, i.e. cruciate ligament damage, ruling him out for the year!  This as a result of last week's match against Clans.  :'(

Anybody else hear anything? Huge blow if true!!  :'(

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 20, 2007, 10:26:56 PM
"Mc kenna didn't want to go this year" That is priceless  :D How many other players from around the county that would give their balls to represent their county could come out with this. This guy should never be ASKED to play again for Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardal on April 20, 2007, 10:53:02 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 20, 2007, 10:26:56 PM
"Mc kenna didn't want to go this year" That is priceless  :D How many other players from around the county that would give their balls to represent their county could come out with this. This guy should never be ASKED to play again for Armagh.

Now that is "priceless".
Maybe he has reasons for postponing for a year, but yeah go ahead, never ask him again. >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on April 20, 2007, 10:56:35 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 20, 2007, 10:26:56 PM
"Mc kenna didn't want to go this year" That is priceless  :D How many other players from around the county that would give their balls to represent their county could come out with this. This guy should never be ASKED to play again for Armagh.

A healthy attitude that, never mind WHY he would not asked to be considered. He has his reasons and if he is considered good enough in the future then we take him, we are not friggin Kerry you know! :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 21, 2007, 12:01:55 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 20, 2007, 12:09:12 PM
But you are right about Stephen in that he can struggle at wing forward but put him in the middle, get him on the ball and he is deadly.

Unfortunately at county level you have to get yourself on the ball and more pertenantly to stephen, keep a hold of it when you get it. also, i'm not sure how many other players would get the patience and chances to produce this alleged potential. this is his fourth championship season with armagh.

Sorry to say that i also hear francie's season is over due to the dreaded cruciate curse.
Title: Re: Francie Bellew
Post by: Donagh on April 21, 2007, 12:07:32 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on April 20, 2007, 10:13:17 PM
Bad news babies - I'm hearing from a very reliable source (of mine) some very bad news about Francis, i.e. cruciate ligament damage, ruling him out for the year!  This as a result of last week's match against Clans.  :'(

Anybody else hear anything? Huge blow if true!!  :'(



Maybe wishing thinking on my part, but I doubt that's true, if only for the fact that he played on for five minutes after he was injured - which I doubt even a man like Francis would be able to do with a fooked cruciate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 21, 2007, 12:17:04 PM

Depends on the type of damage donagh. when they knee doesn't lock you might actually feel nothing until you make paticular movements so long as its not completely torn.
It's true all right.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on April 21, 2007, 02:16:55 PM
Ah ballix!!! :'(

If that is the case we have seen the last of francie in an armagh jersey. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on April 21, 2007, 02:28:21 PM
Quote from: stew on April 21, 2007, 02:16:55 PM
Ah ballix!!! :'(

If that is the case we have seen the last of francie in an armagh jersey. 

Have to say that that thought crossed my mind too, Stew!

With McFadden playing well for Donegal in full forward, this is a serious blow. Enda to go full back with Andy Mallon and Finnian Moriarty in the corners, or what about trying young Toner from Granemore at number three?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 21, 2007, 02:36:17 PM

Has to be toner for me. moriarty doesn't look up to it to me but you never know. i'm disappointed we haven't had a look at toner at full back in the league given the ongoing shoulder injury bellew was carrying and that fb has taken a fair few runarounds in the last few years
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 21, 2007, 02:59:19 PM
Its ironic that a couple of weeks after retiring Armagh might need Tony McEntee more than they have in years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on April 21, 2007, 04:05:20 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 21, 2007, 02:59:19 PM
Its ironic that a couple of weeks after retiring Armagh might need Tony McEntee more than they have in years.

It is ironic, I was thinking that myself but I  hope he stays retired, we need to blood new players and give them opportunities and not regress and take retired players back, Marsden being the exception of course. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 21, 2007, 04:22:12 PM
McEntee is not a genuine full back anyway. A man that will do a great job for you but I still rather see Enda or Toner there if McEntee was still on panel. Other possibilities? O Rourke would have been an option if he was still around. Suppose McKeever may be considered but he will probably give too many frees away around goal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 21, 2007, 07:26:38 PM
Saint Micheals beat Annaghmore today 2-16 to 1-10. I will get a full write up done later this evening.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 21, 2007, 09:33:43 PM
The 'Bridge beat tones by a point, valuable result away from home.

Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: say nothin on April 21, 2007, 09:54:37 PM
harps drew with clans. 0-12 apiece. would  have took a draw at h-time, down by 5 points, but Harps had the better chances towards the end to win. Only for Collie Holmes plucking one from the sky just as it was on its way over the bar in the last minute we could have lost all the points..

happy to get a point registered :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 21, 2007, 11:20:15 PM
The St Pat's Granemore match was called off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 22, 2007, 01:00:35 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 21, 2007, 11:20:15 PM
The St Pat's Granemore match was called off.
Did yous play Newtown during the week after it was called off last weekend?
Are yous planning on playing any games this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2007, 01:30:09 AM
Well we didn't plan on Granemore calling off the match because somebody died but we all have to put up with these things in life. I would assume that we plan to play all our matches and win as many as possible with the hope that we'll do win well enough to gain promotion and win the intermediate championship. But then even the best laid plans can go astray at times. Perhaps the powers that be at the club have a cunning scheme to outwit all our competitors into resigning from the league out of frustation at their inability to get Cullyhanna to play a match. I'm not on the committee anymore so I wouldn't know. I'm guessing they'll go with the first option for a while though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 22, 2007, 01:42:49 AM
It'd make a change from beating everyone up  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Horatio Kane on April 22, 2007, 04:47:42 AM
Would Charlie Vernon not be an option at full back?
He's big, strong, mobile and reads the game well.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 22, 2007, 10:55:50 AM
How did Granemore call off their game with St Patrick's last night?
Someone said it was because of a death in Granemore.
There was nobody involved with the Granemore club dead according to rule.
I trust that the Competitions Control Committee will correctly award this game to St Patrick's if Granemore did not call it off as per rule which states:-

Matches may be put off only on the following grounds:-
(A) A death in the immediate family circle (father, mother, wife, husband, brother, sister, child) or in the household of a player or registered committee member.  This shall also apply to the day of the funeral.

Apparently Granemore had two players on Under-21 duty and a couple of injuries.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 22, 2007, 11:15:00 AM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on April 22, 2007, 10:55:50 AM
How did Granemore call off their game with St Patrick's last night?
Someone said it was because of a death in Granemore.
There was nobody involved with the Granemore club dead according to rule.
I trust that the Competitions Control Committee will correctly award this game to St Patrick's if Granemore did not call it off as per rule which states:-

Matches may be put off only on the following grounds:-
(A) A death in the immediate family circle (father, mother, wife, husband, brother, sister, child) or in the household of a player or registered committee member.  This shall also apply to the day of the funeral.

Apparently Granemore had two players on Under-21 duty and a couple of injuries.

Aye and that rule is followed.  Do you think that Newtown should have got the points last week when St. Pats called the game off because there was a wedding on the saturday!

I'm not saying this should be the case btw just making an example. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 22, 2007, 11:26:05 AM
Regarding the St Patrick's and St Michael's game which was called off due to a wedding in Cullyhanna but St Michael's gave their agreement which is within the rules.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 22, 2007, 11:28:27 AM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on April 22, 2007, 11:26:05 AM
Regarding the St Patrick's and St Michael's game which was called off due to a wedding in Cullyhanna but St Michael's gave their agreement which is within the rules.

And did St. Pat's not give their agreement yesterday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ExiledGael on April 22, 2007, 08:36:37 PM
Has Francie's injury been confirmed, has he any chance of playing this year? How come none of the papers are on this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on April 22, 2007, 08:45:17 PM
Report from Cross on RTE sport now.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ExiledGael on April 22, 2007, 08:56:04 PM
Balls, cant see RTE sport here, what's the report on exactly?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on April 22, 2007, 09:01:37 PM
They "waste" half the sports on visiting a club and generally highlighting their achievements, when they might more usefully show highlights and show the club programme some other day. They spoke to Donal Murtagh, the McEntee twins, Big Joe, Stephen and Aaron, Paul Hearty, Oisin and his mother, among others. Oisin said that beating Harps was as important as beating Crokes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 23, 2007, 08:19:40 AM
Anybody post a list of the weekends results please?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 23, 2007, 08:57:39 AM
ARMAGH CLUB & COUNTY RESULTS & TABLES FOR W/E SUNDAY 22 APRIL 2007

Saturday 21 April

ACL - Division I
Whitecross 1-9; Crossmaglen 1-15
Clan na Gael 0-12; Harps 0-12
Dromintee 1-10; Culloville 1-5
Maghery v Tir na nÓg (Off)
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og (Off)

ACL - Division II
Ballymacnab 2-8; St Peter's 0-6
Carrickcruppen 2-8; Killeavey 0-15
Clann Eireann 2-11; Keady 0-9
Granemore v St Patrick's (Off)
St Michael's 2-16; Annaghmore 1-10
Wolfe Tones 2-8; Silverbridge 1-12

ACL - Division III
Clady 0-7; St Paul's 1-9
Clonmore 0-8; Madden 1-10
Collegeland 3-11; Lissummon 1-9
Crossmaglen II 1-7; An Port Mor 2-12
Middletown v Ballyhegan (Off)
Tullysaran 0-5; Sarsfields 1-13

ACL - Division IV
Belleek v Shane O'Neill's (Off)
Corrinshego 0-5; Eire Og 1-8
Forkhill 1-10; Derrynoose 1-16
Mullaghbrack 2-10; Phelim Brady's 1-6
O'Hanlon's 3-7; Dorsey Emmett's 1-13

County Feile Semi-Finals
Crossmaglen v St Peter's (Off)
Pearse Og v Shane O'Neill's (Off)


Sunday 22 April

All-Ireland Under-21 Football Semi-Final
Armagh 0-12; Cork 0-13



ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES


Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 2 2 0 0 4
Dromintee 2 1 0 1 2
Mullaghbawn 1 1 0 0 2
Tir na nÓg 1 1 0 0 2
Whitecross 2 1 0 1 2
Maghery 1 0 1 0 1
Pearse Og 1 0 1 0 1
Clan na Gael 2 0 1 1 1
Harps 2 0 1 1 1
Culloville 2 0 0 2 0

Division II
P W D L Pts
Killeavey 2 2 0 0 4
Clann Eireann 1 1 0 0 2
Granemore 1 1 0 1 2
St Michael's 1 1 0 0 2
Silverbridge 1 1 0 0 2
Ballymacnab 2 1 0 1 2
Carrickcruppen 2 1 0 1 2
Wolfe Tones 2 1 0 1 2
St Patrick's 0 0 0 0 0
Annaghmore 2 0 0 2 0
Keady 2 0 0 2 0
St Peter's 2 0 0 2 0

Division III
P W D L Pts
An Port Mor 2 2 0 0 4
Madden 2 2 0 0 4
Sarsfields 2 2 0 0 4
St Paul's 2 1 1 0 3
Ballyhegan 1 1 0 0 2
Collegeland 2 1 0 1 2
Lissummon 2 1 0 1 2
Tullysaran 2 0 1 1 1
Middletown 1 0 0 1 0
Clady 2 0 0 2 0
Clonmore 2 0 0 2 0
Crossmaglen II 2 0 0 2 0

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Eire Og 2 2 0 0 4
Mullaghbrack 2 2 0 0 4
Dorsey Emmett's 2 1 1 0 3
Grange 1 1 0 0 2
Shane O'Neill's 1 1 0 0 2
Derrynoose 2 1 0 1 2
O'Hanlon's 2 0 1 1 1
Belleek 0 0 0 0 0
Corrinshego 2 0 0 2 0
Forkhill 2 0 0 2 0
Phelim Brady's 2 0 0 2 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 23, 2007, 08:58:25 AM
Cheers!

Seems a right few games called off!!  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on April 23, 2007, 09:07:05 AM
Why so many called off?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 23, 2007, 09:17:57 AM
Ard Mhacha,
Where did you get these results and league tables from?
This is excellent information.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 23, 2007, 09:22:31 AM
QuoteArd Mhacha,
Where did you get these results and league tables from?
This is excellent information.

orchardcounty.com good web site regarding club football!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 23, 2007, 11:34:56 AM
Anyone at the game yesterday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 23, 2007, 11:40:31 AM
QuoteWhy so many called off?

Tir na nÓg's match was called off due to a death at the Maghery club. I think it was their former chairmans father.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 23, 2007, 11:43:08 AM
QuotePosted on: Today at 11:34:56 AMPosted by: full back  
Insert Quote
Anyone at the game yesterday

yes i was indeed, armagh showed guts nd determination in the 2nd half! they let cork rush into an early lead that was too hard to come back from. thought kevin orourke snatched it for us with a goal bound effert in injury time! was very impressed by the cork midfielder he was outstanding.....a great 2nd half battle hard luck lads...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on April 23, 2007, 12:39:59 PM
anyone have the tables in armagh for football
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on April 23, 2007, 12:43:36 PM
An Port Mor - check out the last page and you will see the tables for all divisions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 23, 2007, 01:01:47 PM
I'm sorry to say that i saw a result like this coming the whole way through the championship. there were several recurring weaknesses yesterday which hadn't been exploited in the ulster championship. we've consistently allowed teams we are clearly better than to stay in touch through sloppiness and aimlessness in the forward division. unfortunately missed opportunities and an inability to protect our weak full back line finally caught up.

The seeds were sewn in the first half when cork did as derry had done before them. they isolated their front three and withdrew their entire half forward line. With McClelland still not knowing how to play centre back, the armagh defence was an open gate. although playing with the wind, cork attacked only on the counter and were able to get quick early ball into the full forward line. they had oceans of space and goulding in particular wreaked havoc. coupled with this, the cork midfield and half forwards poured through our centre in supporter. gould tore us open in this respect and lavery just wasn't able to stay with him. cork were very economical in the frst half with their shooting ratio, probably because they were shooting in loads of space and under no pressure. to be fair to armagh they fought back admirably from 7-1 down to close the gap before the half.

the game was still there in the seocnd half for our lads but even with the breeze, it was infuriating to watch them continue to carry the ball the whole length of the field. Unfortunately hanratty has proven very limited at this level when he gets the ball in his hands and too often attacks were floundering when the ball reached him. the obvious switch when a goal was needed was o'neill onto the square and to let it in high to him. again, this was left way too long to happen. the first ball than came into him he won and created a one on one which the keeper saved. after that they never kicked another high ball into him. he kept getting the ball out on the wings going away from goal.

despite all of this, armagh huffed and puffed their way to enough point chances to at least get the draw and only for two break away points from cork, could have won it. O'Rourke's chance went the wrong side of the post and he was unlucky. he certainly couldn't be blamed for the loss as he showed great endevour and battling throughout.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on April 23, 2007, 01:54:07 PM
Has anyone got the Armagh team from yesterday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 23, 2007, 02:34:01 PM
1. paudie rodger
2. kevin dyas
3. bredan donaghy
4. martin ferris
5. paul kernan
6. kieran toner
7. tony mcclelland
8. james lavery
9. paul courtney
10. stefan forker
11. david mckenna
12. charlie vernon
13. kevin orourke
14. johnny hanratty
15. gareth oneill
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 23, 2007, 03:56:06 PM
Annaghmore Pearses lost their second game of the season on Saturday despite a spirited second half display against St Michaels, Newtownhamiliton.  After a frantic opening ten minutes played against the wind, Annaghmore found themselves 0-4 to 0-1 down with only John McCormack's 4th minute point to show for their efforts.  Things soon got worse for Annaghmore when on 15 minutes Saint Michaels claimed their first goal of the game following a high ball into the square, which dropped fortuitously to their corner forward.  The men from Newtownhamiliton then quickly tagged on two more points to lead 1-6 to 0-1 after 20 minutes.  At this stage the signs were ominous for the recently promoted Annaghmore but they didn't let their heads drop and midfielder Michael McQuade scored a fine long range effort which was followed by a John McCormack free to stop the string of unanswered scores from Saint Michaels.

Controversy was soon to follow when the referee awarded what appeared to be a harsh penalty to Saint Michaels following a tussle inside the square.  The penalty was dully converted to leave the scores 2-6 to 0-3 after 25 minutes.  Despite scoring almost immediately, through Shane Smyth from the resulting kick out, Annaghmore conceded three more points to trail 2-9 to 0-4 at half time.

It was a much better story for Annaghmore in the second half despite conceding the first score of the half from a 21m free.   John McCormack scored for the Pearses with a 33rd minute free before an intelligent flick on from half time substitute Gavin McGilly set Shane Smyth away to score Annaghmore's only goal of the game.  John McCormack then added another quick free to put more pressure on Saint Michaels.  Unfortunately for Annaghmore, Saint Michaels were able to show why many people are tipping them for a prompt return to division 1 by knocking over 4 unanswered points to ease the pressure and leave the score 2-14 to 1-6 after 50 minutes.  John McCormack's fourth point of the day acted as the catalyst for some fluid attacking play in the last 10 minutes which saw Shane Smyth come close on a number of occasions to adding to his earlier goal but resolute defending from Saint Michaels was enough to hold out Annaghmore who had to settle for two Smyth frees and a fine injury time point from half back Gerard McConville.

At the end of the day Annaghmore can feel proud of their performance as they were rarely outclassed by a team that this time last year was 2 divisions above them.

Annaghmore scorers

S Smyth 1-4 (2 frees) John McCormack 0-4 (3 frees) M McQuade (0-1) G McConville (0-1)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ExiledGael on April 23, 2007, 07:23:21 PM
Still no confirmation on Francie?? Is he out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on April 23, 2007, 07:49:47 PM
Good report there David - keep them coming!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 24, 2007, 10:18:49 AM
When are the county team heading to La manga?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 24, 2007, 10:31:01 AM
QuoteWhen are the county team heading to La manga?

THURSDAY 3RD MAY!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 24, 2007, 10:35:08 AM
Cheers ama
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 24, 2007, 10:43:08 AM

Any fixtures for this weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 24, 2007, 10:46:22 AM
Taken from Orchardcounty.com
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES W/E SUNDAY 29 APRIL 2007


Tuesday 24 April

County Feile Semi-Finals (7.00)
Crossmaglen v St Peter's (Sean McClelland) at Granemore
Pearse Og v Shane O'Neill's (Seamus O'Neill) at Mullaghbrack
(Extra Time if necessary in either or both games)


Wednesday 25 April

ACL – Division II (7.00)
Granemore v St Patrick's (Gary Smith)


Friday 27 April

ACL – Division III (7.30)
St Paul's v Sarsfields (Tony O'Hare)


Sunday 29 April

ACL – Division I (2.00)
Whitecross v Dromintee (Oliver Hearty)
Crossmaglen v Harps (Seamus O'Neill)
Culloville v Maghery (Paul Seacroft)
Pearse Og v Clan na Gael (Vincent O'Neill)
Tir na nÓg v Mullaghbawn (Padraig Duffy) (6.00)

ACL – Division II (2.00)
Annaghmore v Granemore (Jim Lynch)
Ballymacnab v Carrickcruppen (Barney Henry)
Keady v Wolfe Tones (Paudie Hughes)
Killeavey v St Michael's (Rory Robinson)
St Patrick's v Clann Eireann (Malachy McNicholl)
St Peter's v Silverbridge (Jim Slevin)

ACL – Division III (2.00)
Ballyhegan v Crossmaglen II (Kevin McNeice)
Clady v Clonmore (Kevin Murtagh)
Lissummon v Tullysaran (Damian McConville)
Madden v Middletown (Martin Traynor)
An Port Mor v Collegeland (Eamon Nugent)

ACL – Division IV (2.00)
Derrynoose v O'Hanlon's (Dessie McDonnell)
Dorsey Emmett's v Corrinshego (Mickey Leonard)
Eire Og v Belleek (Gerard Devlin)
Grange v Mullaghbrack (Henry McCloy)
Phelim Brady's v Forkhill (Paul Boylan)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 24, 2007, 10:58:32 AM
whats the predictions on the fourth comin fixtures?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 24, 2007, 12:02:11 PM
Whitecross v Dromintee (Oliver Hearty)                 Dromintee
Crossmaglen v Harps (Seamus O'Neill)                   Crossmaglen
Culloville v Maghery (Paul Seacroft)                       Maghery
Pearse Og v Clan na Gael (Vincent O'Neill)             Clan na Gael 
Tir na nÓg v Mullaghbawn (Padraig Duffy) (6.00)   Tir na nÓg
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 24, 2007, 12:05:24 PM
Whitecross v Dromintee (Oliver Hearty)                 Dromintee
Crossmaglen v Harps (Seamus O'Neill)                   Crossmaglen
Culloville v Maghery (Paul Seacroft)                       Maghery
Pearse Og v Clan na Gael (Vincent O'Neill)             Ogs
Tir na nÓg v Mullaghbawn (Padraig Duffy) (6.00)   Mullaghbawn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 24, 2007, 02:10:00 PM
Whitecross v Dromintee (Oliver Hearty)                 whitecross
Crossmaglen v Harps (Seamus O'Neill)                   Crossmaglen
Culloville v Maghery (Paul Seacroft)                       Maghery (draw)
Pearse Og v Clan na Gael (Vincent O'Neill)             CLan na Gael
Tir na nÓg v Mullaghbawn (Padraig Duffy) (6.00)   Mullaghbawn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 24, 2007, 02:28:20 PM

Whitecross v Dromintee (Oliver Hearty)                Dromintee
Crossmaglen v Harps (Seamus O'Neill)                   Draw
Culloville v Maghery (Paul Seacroft)                      Maghery
Pearse Og v Clan na Gael (Vincent O'Neill)            Ogs
Tir na nÓg v Mullaghbawn (Padraig Duffy) (6.00)   Mullaghbawn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 24, 2007, 02:33:49 PM
Whitecross v Dromintee (Oliver Hearty)                Dromintee
Crossmaglen v Harps (Seamus O'Neill)                   Cross
Culloville v Maghery (Paul Seacroft)                      Maghery
Pearse Og v Clan na Gael (Vincent O'Neill)            Ogs
Tir na nÓg v Mullaghbawn (Padraig Duffy) (6.00)   Mullaghbawn

what about division 2?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 24, 2007, 02:41:09 PM

Revised realistic available Championship Team

McKinney

McNulty
Toner
Mallon

Kernan
McGeeney
McKeever

McGrane
Lavery

Vernon
Marsden
O'Rourke

McDonnell
Loughran
McConville
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 24, 2007, 02:46:41 PM
That wont be a million miles away Uladh-IMO
Although do you think Joe will start Geezer?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armamike on April 24, 2007, 02:51:31 PM
That looks near enough.  Is Bellew definitely out with injury?  There's been no mention of this in the press.  Toal is an option to come in at wing forward.  I wouldn't have Vernon and Kernan on the same wing though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 24, 2007, 02:56:05 PM

Joe has no option but to play McGeeney now... there's noone else! Joe doesn't have to talk directly to him... he can just call the team out! AOR is the only other centre back in the county and i doubt Joe is about to kiss and make up with him either.

I wouldn't be playing vernon and kernan on the same wing either but it's a stab at what think joe will do.

Bellew is out and the rumour is that P Kernan will fill the position on the panel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 24, 2007, 02:58:48 PM
Toal looks certain to miss out aswell.... ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 24, 2007, 03:07:56 PM
couldnt see philly loughran in full forward he was terrible there against westmeath...he was afraid to shot...and charlie wasnt that great in half forward for the u21s!imo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on April 24, 2007, 03:10:20 PM
Would Vernon there, cover Kernan defensively and make up for his lack of ability to defend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 24, 2007, 03:11:40 PM
never thought of it like that still optional who to play at full forward! though more than likely gonna be a big target man for mcdonald to play off!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 24, 2007, 03:11:49 PM
What about Duffy?
Must be in with a shout?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 24, 2007, 03:13:45 PM
Abu you are confusing someone being " afraid to shoot" with someone who can't shoot. Maybe this is why he is afraid because he knows he can't.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 24, 2007, 03:15:26 PM
well why play him at full-forward then..surely there is other players on the panal who could be used as target men who can shoot!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on April 24, 2007, 03:32:25 PM
QuoteJoe doesn't have to talk directly to him... he can just call the team out
Am I right in assuming that there's currently bad vibes between Geezer and Joe Kernan?
I think you've outlined our possible Championship line-out and I think it's fair enough except that I would prefer Hearty to McKinney and I can't see Loughran making any impact in any position in the heat of the summer games. P Duffy is fit again and must, as fullback says, be very much in the reckoning. Bellew is definitely out , and probably for the whole Championship. Is it time to go knocking on the doors of T McEntee and or A O'Rourke. You win games with your best team, not with the team of players the manager gets on with!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on April 24, 2007, 03:41:00 PM
Bellew is out for the championship, think it is time for Joe to bury the hatchet with the Macs and geezer, Tony to play full back against donegal and john on the 40 against donegal,
Unfortunately I think stephen will be playing on the 40 with marsden on the square.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armamike on April 24, 2007, 03:42:32 PM
To be fair to him that was his first outing at ff. I thought he did just about ok and worth another try in training at least.  I have grave doubts about Philly though. A fella of his size should be dominating in the air.

Disagree with you about Vernon.  I think the u21 management have found his best position - wing forward.  His strength is breaking forward and opening things up. I would give him the license to get onto the ball round the middle and break forward.  Both himself and Kernan on the same flank would leave us seriously exposed though imo - neither of them are defensively strong.

Going by the Kerry game last August, Armagh can't afford to have Kernan and Duffy in the same half back line.  Their lack of strength and power was exposed badly in that game.

Uladh - you think Kernan will bring the Paul lad in for Bellew?  Nothing against the lad but he's only a rookie.  He couldn't handle his marker in the u21 game and only got a bit of relief in the second half when Armagh started to boss around the middle.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on April 24, 2007, 03:45:03 PM
A fit Duffy has to be a cert, he is the best half back in the county and in the coming years will prove himself to be one of the best in the country. There seems to be quite a bit of cloak and dagger regarding this Armagh team,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 24, 2007, 03:47:33 PM
Quote from: naka on April 24, 2007, 03:41:00 PM
think it is time for Joe to bury the hatchet with the Macs and geezer

I was almost sure the Mac's retired
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 24, 2007, 03:47:51 PM
QuoteUnfortunately I think stephen will be playing on the 40 with marsden on the square.
Quote

its lookin good for the back door then..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on April 24, 2007, 03:48:09 PM
QuoteThere seems to be quite a bit of cloak and dagger regarding this Armagh team,

In what sense?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on April 24, 2007, 03:52:38 PM
Does anyone know when the new armagh jersey will be out? Ive heard all kinds of dates and was just wondering if anyone has heard anything bout it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2007, 03:58:19 PM
I think you are close to the mark there uladh with a few changes.  I reckon Paul will be in goals.  I have seen nothing from McKinney to suggest that overall he is a better option.

You might find that Vernon and O'Rourke swap wings, with MOR on doing the covering role for AK as he goes forward.  

I haven't seen Loughran at FF.  It is hard to imagine how effective he might be.  He is tall but not very aggressive, unlike Donaghy.  He is not quick or clever like Clarke is.  If he can get his confidence he could be effective as a target man.  If it works, when Clarke comes back he might be the better option at CHF with Marsden pushed out to the wing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on April 24, 2007, 03:59:44 PM
I'd worry less about the jersey and more about who's going to be in it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 24, 2007, 04:03:07 PM
would toner at full back be left to pick up McFadden or would Andy mallon be given that job?

i think geezer might be an option at full back. he might not have the legs for 70 mins on the 40 or around the middle but i'd say he'd be fit enough for full back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 24, 2007, 04:10:04 PM
Quotewould toner at full back be left to pick up McFadden or would Andy mallon be given that job?

i think geezer might be an option at full back. he might not have the legs for 70 mins on the 40 or around the middle but i'd say he'd be fit enough for full back.


toner would be well fit for devenney or mcfadden wouldnt matter big strong fella great fielder and excellent tackler!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2007, 04:23:03 PM
QuoteThere seems to be quite a bit of cloak and dagger regarding this Armagh team,

The championship is 5 weeks away and you are on about cloak and dagger ::)  Some people like to find fault and if they can't find it they will make it up.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on April 24, 2007, 04:28:54 PM
QuoteIs it time to go knocking on the doors of T McEntee

I'd expect Tony McEntee to have a bit more self-respect than to announce his retirement one week only to sail back in a 2 weeks later 'cos of an injury to Bellew.  Taking the decision to retire after 12 odd years isn't like changing your mind on whether or not you'll have a pint in this round.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 24, 2007, 04:31:07 PM
Probably right on the keeping front bc. personally i'd have McKinney for his communication and especially his shot stopping. in hindsight, i suspect Joe will opt for Paul. two great keepers to have.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 25, 2007, 08:19:02 AM
I know it aint GAA related. But go vote anyway!

Hasbro Toy Company are producing the All-Ireland edition of Monopoly, the worlds most famous board game, later this year.
>
> Each square will feature a county, represented by the most popular
visitor attraction in that county. With space only for 22 of the 32 counties Hasbro have decided to let the Irish population vote for the 22 counties to feature. By visiting http://www.monopoly.ie/index.aspx you can vote for your county, the site will be officially launched on April 26th but voting has commenced since April 23rd.
>
> This is a novel and unique way to raise the awareness of and promote
the
county but as we have the lowest population base we need to get voting now.
You can vote once a day and I would urge all staff to log on daily and vote, the site stays live for 30days after which the winning 22 counties will be known.
>
> Please vote !
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 25, 2007, 08:29:26 AM
Laois is ranked 1st ffs.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on April 25, 2007, 09:38:48 AM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on April 25, 2007, 12:22:32 PM
QuoteBellew in fitness battle (from Hogan Stand)
25 April 2007


An ankle injury is threatening Francie Bellew's participation in Armagh's Ulster SFC opener against Donegal on May 27.

The full back sustained the injury in a recent club match and is due to have a scan on Wednesday.

"It is niggling at him and we need to find out what is wrong," Orchard County boss Joe Kernan said.

"Francie isn't one to complain, but he's sore and it's causing him problems. We won't know how bad it is until after the scan so there's no point in me saying too much about it.

"We're not hiding anything – if he is injured and is out of a match then we'll say so and if he's fit we'll say that he's fit. But at this stage it's too early to comment."

The former All-Star had been troubled with a shoulder injury problem during Crossmaglen's recent run to the All-Ireland club title, and there were fears that this would require surgery. But Kernan says that this has now cleared up and is no longer a worry.

So much for the posters who knew for definate that Francie has done his cruciate!   Pub grapevine more like. lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 25, 2007, 12:50:55 PM

Good man over the bar.

did you need chopsticks to eat up that line you've just been fed?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on April 25, 2007, 01:03:49 PM
i'd say ye wud not be too bad at the 'ate-in' yourself uladh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 25, 2007, 01:08:57 PM

You think i'd be as gullible as you?

maybe, but not this time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 25, 2007, 03:20:07 PM
used to be known as the geraldines now known as st patricks carrickcruppen..why?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on April 25, 2007, 03:26:20 PM
In 1492 it was Gerald Fitzgerald who cut the famous hole in the door and put his hand through, leading to the expression "chancing your arm". As people around Carrickcruppen were chancers, they thought the name Geraldines appropriate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 25, 2007, 03:40:17 PM
QuoteA few of my mates play for a team called the Geraldines in Louth and we were talking about the name, but I thought I remembered Carrickcruppen being called the Geraldines also.
Quote

in the early 80's carrickcruppen reserve team where called the geraldines
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bensars on April 25, 2007, 04:10:43 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on April 20, 2007, 10:13:17 PM
Bad news babies - I'm hearing from a very reliable source (of mine) some very bad news about Francis, i.e. cruciate ligament damage, ruling him out for the year!  This as a result of last week's match against Clans.  :'(

Anybody else hear anything? Huge blow if true!!  :'(


;D ;D ;D  Reliable  my arse. Not even his knee !!!       
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 25, 2007, 04:28:59 PM
My memory may be palying tricks on me here but if I remember right the Geraldines were actually a break away club from Carrickcruppen in the Eighties who played at Junior level.  They were only in existence for about 7-8 years and the amalgamted again once the row was sorted out. 

A similar thing happened in Cross around that time with the Cross Red Hands being re-established circa 1985 by a few disgruntled senior players who also played soccer and the club would not allow both.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on April 25, 2007, 04:33:40 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 25, 2007, 04:28:59 PM
My memory may be palying tricks on me here but if I remember right the Geraldines were actually a break away club from Carrickcruppen in the Eighties who played at Junior level.  They were only in existence for about 7-8 years and the amalgamted again once the row was sorted out. 

A similar thing happened in Cross around that time with the Cross Red Hands being re-established circa 1985 by a few disgruntled senior players who also played soccer and the club would not allow both.

Never knew that, but just a note, another prody type name
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 25, 2007, 04:38:20 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 25, 2007, 04:28:59 PM
My memory may be palying tricks on me here but if I remember right the Geraldines were actually a break away club from Carrickcruppen in the Eighties who played at Junior level.  They were only in existence for about 7-8 years and the amalgamted again once the row was sorted out. 

A similar thing happened in Cross around that time with the Cross Red Hands being re-established circa 1985 by a few disgruntled senior players who also played soccer and the club would not allow both.
Correcto, I remember Geraldines playing.  There's been a few teams that have disappeared, I'd wager that there aren't too many on this board who remember a team called Naomh Brid playing football in the Armagh ACL and junior championship?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 25, 2007, 05:09:41 PM
The club was originally affiliated with the GAA in 1887 as the Crossmaglen Red Hands, as in the the O'Neill's who had a stronghold behind my house and changed to the Rangers a number of years later.  Nothing Prody about that.  

Benny the names rings a bell with me.  Were they an Armagh city team?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on April 25, 2007, 05:16:03 PM
There is a Camogie Club in the City that go by that name, but not to sure if there was a football club as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: john mcgill on April 25, 2007, 05:38:28 PM
Played against St Brigid's in the early 80's in the Madden tournament.  I was just home from the US having played with Pearse Ogs on their US tour.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 25, 2007, 05:47:12 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 25, 2007, 05:09:41 PM
The club was originally affiliated with the GAA in 1887 as the Crossmaglen Red Hands, as in the the O'Neill's who had a stronghold behind my house and changed to the Rangers a number of years later.  Nothing Prody about that.  

Benny the names rings a bell with me.  Were they an Armagh city team?

They were indeed, seemed to come out of the Windmill/Callan street area which would be mostly Ogs territory, although they had a mix of city boys in their ranks.  They went out of existence because they couldn't pay county board dues of £1,400 odd.  Sure the Harps and Ogs were heartbroken..not.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 25, 2007, 09:26:09 PM
How did St Pat's do against Newtown and Belleeks against Shane O'Neills or did these games take place this evening?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on April 26, 2007, 12:08:34 AM
Where did you get your profile image Spirit. Is that you in the Mac Rory final there?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 26, 2007, 08:38:35 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 25, 2007, 04:28:59 PM
My memory may be palying tricks on me here but if I remember right the Geraldines were actually a break away club from Carrickcruppen in the Eighties who played at Junior level.  They were only in existence for about 7-8 years and the amalgamted again once the row was sorted out. 

My uncle was their manager for a while. I remember them playing Ballyhegan years ago. They played in maroon? or maybe my head is making these memories up!!  :P  :o

Must ask him at the week end & confirm your theories!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 26, 2007, 08:48:14 AM
Quote from: rolloutking on April 26, 2007, 12:08:34 AM
Where did you get your profile image Spirit. Is that you in the Mac Rory final there?

is that not raffo?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on April 26, 2007, 09:02:28 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on April 26, 2007, 08:48:14 AM
Quote from: rolloutking on April 26, 2007, 12:08:34 AM
Where did you get your profile image Spirit. Is that you in the Mac Rory final there?

is that not raffo?

Definately Raffo, Full back never took my fancy, looks a bit Slim for me! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 26, 2007, 09:45:16 AM
st pats beat newtown by 4 points last night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on April 26, 2007, 10:18:04 AM
The geraldines were not a breakaway, at the time Cruppen around 83/84 were not allowed a second team(cross amongst others  objected ) in the league and the forming of Bessbrook Geraldines( a team that played around the 30s in Armagh )was the only way forward.They played in cruppens colours and at their pitch winning the 4th division and junior championship,they were disbanded when it became apparent that more people in the club wanted to play for the geraldines than the senior team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 26, 2007, 10:31:32 AM
lads how do you get to pearse ogs new pitch in ballycrummy?
is it out the cathedral road?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 26, 2007, 10:38:34 AM
head towards calledon and there is a turn of to the right onto the ballycrummy road, u'll see the sign sayin pearse og's gaa ground!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on April 26, 2007, 10:41:43 AM
keep driving out the Cathedral Rd until you pass all the housing estates and then take the 1st left, you cant miss it. Are you playing!

Ard mhaca version is on the Killylea Road
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 26, 2007, 10:46:46 AM

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;D ;D ;D  Reliable  my arse. Not even his knee !!!       
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I wonder do betfair cater for the like of this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 26, 2007, 10:47:41 AM
no longer a senior player spirt. just lending my had to the b's this year.
i think i'll be heading out to the match though. i had heard before somewhere that the pitch wasnt far off the cathedral road. should be handy enough to find.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 26, 2007, 11:03:19 AM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on April 25, 2007, 09:26:09 PM
How did St Pat's do against Newtown and Belleeks against Shane O'Neills or did these games take place this evening?

Think the Belleeks & Shanes's game was called off again
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 26, 2007, 11:53:30 AM
St Patricks beat Newtown by 1-12 to 2-6.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 26, 2007, 11:12:04 PM
You sure it isn't Declan Browne, he's mentioned once or twice a year in the rumour (i.e made up)mill :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 27, 2007, 08:32:09 AM
QuoteHeard a rumour from a usually reliable source that Ger Brady from Mayo has transferred to Carrickcruppen. Anyone shed any light on this?
Quote

its actually billy joe padden who has requested a transfer to Carrickcruppen, i dont know how true this is but there certainly is a rumour circling around the club....
and he is due to get married to a girl who's family links would be well connected to the club....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TG4 on April 27, 2007, 09:05:14 AM
has david kelly from clann eireann also transferred to carrickcruppen or who is the player from clann eireann who has transferred ther?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 27, 2007, 09:22:44 AM
yeah david kelly transferred from clann eireann at the start of the season he is also married to a local girl nd is now living in camlough...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TG4 on April 27, 2007, 10:13:22 AM
hed be a quare addition to carrickcruppen,hes prob 1 of clann eireanns best players and is a big strong fast lad. were is he lining out for yas this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 27, 2007, 10:20:41 AM
he played centre half back against annaghmore, then switched to full back to pick up stevy mcdonald against killeavy, i assume he'll play there this wkend as are regular full back is out injured and marty ferris is back from u21 duty to fill in at centre half back...so would should be well fit for ballymacnab!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on April 27, 2007, 10:37:33 AM
so whats all this then between Joe Geezer and the Macs? What happened or why are they not flavours of the month?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on April 27, 2007, 10:52:48 AM
I hear J P Donnolly's transfer request was up with the county board last night.  Anyone hear how it went?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Pat Molloy on April 27, 2007, 11:34:31 AM
decision C.R.U.... (coming right up)  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on April 27, 2007, 11:57:32 AM
Transfer request DENIED  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Pat Molloy on April 27, 2007, 12:05:21 PM
on what grounds??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on April 27, 2007, 12:49:03 PM
Quote from: Louis the Red on April 27, 2007, 10:52:48 AM
I hear J P Donnolly's transfer request was up with the county board last night.  Anyone hear how it went?
Quote from: Pat Molloy on April 27, 2007, 12:05:21 PM
on what grounds??? ???
They spelt his name wrong! :D
instead of the o it should have been an e, therefore his transfer could not go through :P :P :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Pat Molloy on April 27, 2007, 01:03:44 PM
C.I.O (correct in one) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on April 27, 2007, 03:18:59 PM
Whitecross v Dromintee (Oliver Hearty)                 Dromintee
Crossmaglen v Harps (Seamus O'Neill)                   Crossmaglen
Culloville v Maghery (Paul Seacroft)                       Maghery
Pearse Og v Clan na Gael (Vincent O'Neill)             Ogs
Tir na nÓg v Mullaghbawn (Padraig Duffy) (6.00)   Tir na Na nOg
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Feckitt on April 27, 2007, 03:52:04 PM
Lads, going back to the discussion about Geraldines, Cross Red Hands and Naomh Brid, a few pages ago.  I was wondering were there any other clubs that have been and gone in the last 30 years or so.  I'm not talking 100years ago, because every townland in the county had a team at one time or other.  I remember Geraldines used to play against Whitecross, Belleek and Shanes in the Carrickcruppen tourament every year.  I remember Phelim Brady's the last time around, but I was surprised to hear of Cross Red Hands. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 27, 2007, 06:39:10 PM

Dromintee were out of existence for a long time and reformed in the early eighties
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Midman on April 28, 2007, 05:30:02 PM

I remember years ago playing against an underage tema from Kilclooney (sp?) anyone know when they were in existence until?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on April 28, 2007, 11:30:32 PM
That was the Parish team of Clady, Ballymacnab and Granemore which last played in the late 90s/early 00, before that (early 90s) John Mitchels (Ballymacnab and Granemore) played for a few years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on April 29, 2007, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: Feckitt on April 27, 2007, 03:52:04 PM
Lads, going back to the discussion about Geraldines, Cross Red Hands and Naomh Brid, a few pages ago.  I was wondering were there any other clubs that have been and gone in the last 30 years or so.  I'm not talking 100years ago, because every townland in the county had a team at one time or other.  I remember Geraldines used to play against Whitecross, Belleek and Shanes in the Carrickcruppen tourament every year.  I remember Phelim Brady's the last time around, but I was surprised to hear of Cross Red Hands. 

My uncle play for Lilo (sp?) in the 50's. They were somewhere between Gilford and Lurgan - Heganboy seemed to know more about them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on April 29, 2007, 01:23:32 PM
Lilo? Your makin that up surely ta God! Did they play on a beach?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on April 29, 2007, 03:32:43 PM
Result

Ballymacnabb 0-10 Carrickcruppen 4-09
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 29, 2007, 04:37:38 PM
Cross beat Harps 1-14 to 2-5, could have been a lot worse.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 29, 2007, 04:49:55 PM
The bridge beat St Peter's, I think there was about 5 in it at the end.

Funny oul game.  We had quite an experimental side out, I was worried it'd bite us in the arse but we led from the beginning and after a Liam Campbell goal mid way through the first half and D McCann's converted penalty on the stroke of half time there was 6 between the teams.
St. Peter's weren't on for lying down though and within five minutes of the restart had a goal and point to our 3 wides, 2 between the teams.  We opened up a 5 point lead and with about ten minutes to go they found the net again!!  The lads worked away and opened up yet another 5 point lead and held on to it this time! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 29, 2007, 05:39:07 PM

Dromintee won by 6 or 7 points.

Lo and behold the ref today was from tir na nog and actully struck a couple of our players two weeks ago.

Result? verbal threats of sendings off throughout and a straight red for one of our lads for nothing. refereeing, armagh style...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 29, 2007, 07:44:57 PM
clans beat the Ogs by about 5. think the score was 0-10 to 0-15.
good second half from the clans. wasted a few goals chances which could have wrapped it up sooner.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 29, 2007, 08:10:46 PM
QuoteLo and behold the ref today was from tir na nog and actully struck a couple of our players two weeks ago.

Result? verbal threats of sendings off throughout and a straight red for one of our lads for nothing. refereeing, armagh style...

If the above serious allegations are true then I would hope that Dromintee will call for an Investigation as to how this official was appointed to referee today's game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 29, 2007, 09:38:15 PM
Annaghmore won 3-6 to 1-10 against Granemore.  Will get a match report up shortly.  Shane Smyth scored 3-2 from (the goals all from play) despite being marked by Tony McClelland
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 30, 2007, 01:53:13 AM
Annaghmore v Granemore

Annaghmore recorded their first two points in division 2 with a hard fought home win over Granemore this past Sunday.  Despite playing against a strong breeze in the first half it was Granemore who scored the first point of the game inside the opening two minutes.  Their lead didn't last long however as Eoin McCormack's 21m free soon had Annaghmore back on level terms before Gavin McGilly put the home side in front with a fine point from play.  Shane Smyth then knocked over a 13m free to leave Annaghmore 3-1 ahead after 10 minutes.

In the 11th minute Shane Smyth raced clear of the Granemore defence to collect a Gavin McGilly flick on before calmly firing his and Annaghmore's first goal of the game.  The goal seemed to spark Granemore into life and they scored a point almost immediately following the resulting kick out.  Both sides then exchanged points with Shane Smyth scoring a 13m free for the home team.  Two fine points from distance from Daniel McGilly then followed in quick succession to leave Annaghmore ahead 1-6 to 0-3.

Shane Smyth then goaled for a second time just before half time following more good link up play with Gavin McGilly.  Again it was Granemore who seemed to react the better to this goal and 4 minutes into injury time they appeared to have a great chance to get back into the game when they were awarded a penalty for what appeared to be an off the ground block by one of Annaghmore's defenders.  Granemore weren't able to take full advantage of this chance however as they were only able to score a point from the penalty to leave the score 2-6 to 0-4 at half time.

It was an entirely different story in the second half as Granemore tried to use the stiff breeze to their advantage to get back into the game. After 10 minutes it appeared as if they might just be able to do this as a goal a point had cut the Annaghmore lead to just 4 points.  This reminded many of those in attendance of the corresponding fixture last year when Granemore were able to overturn a half time deficit, however over the next 15 minutes Granemore continued to pile on the pressure but resolute defending and some wayward shooting restricted them to only three points.  This meant that with time running out Granemore still trailed 2-6 to 1-8.  The quality of Annaghmore's defending resulted in increasing levels of frustration for Granemore which in turn lead to some over elaboration in their own back line.  This was to be their undoing as Shane Smyth was able to intercept a wayward pass from a Granemore defender before holding off two other defenders to finish to the net and complete his hat trick.  This was to give Annaghmore some breathing space and despite a score from Granemore at the beginning of injury time and another 10 minutes later at the end of injury time, Annaghmore were able to hold on for an important and well deserved win over last years division 3 champions.

Annaghmore Scorers

S Smyth 3-2 (2 frees) D McGilly 0-2  E McCormack 0-1 (free) G McGilly 0-1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 30, 2007, 05:31:46 AM
O ye of little faith Lurgan blue predicting a Pearse Og victory. Lads surely to christ you can't be serious about this transfer request being turned down on account of a incorrect spelling? Personally if i were a Harps player i would want nothing to do with this guy Donnelly so i would personally sign a petition to get rid of him. If he doesn't want to play for his club then he quite clearly shouldn't be there. Another issue worth raising, that's not a bad setup the ogs have there at ballycrummy, i would go as far to say that it is one of the best pitches in Armagh no doubt.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 30, 2007, 08:57:00 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 30, 2007, 05:31:46 AM
O ye of little faith Lurgan blue predicting a Pearse Og victory. Lads surely to christ you can't be serious about this transfer request being turned down on account of a incorrect spelling?

Not true ::) I actually heard JP wanted to leave because the Harps eat babies.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 30, 2007, 09:55:01 AM
Good reply  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: direct on April 30, 2007, 10:20:41 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on April 29, 2007, 05:39:07 PM
Result? verbal threats of sendings off throughout and a straight red for one of our lads for nothing. refereeing, armagh style...

More Dromintee lies. Seems every club is wrong bar yourselves.
Dromintee man was lined for kicking the man on the ground in the head. No amount of asking the ref to put it in for 2 yellows will change that fact.
A disgrace to football in general
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 30, 2007, 10:25:16 AM
QuoteO ye of little faith Lurgan blue predicting a Pearse Og victory

very true chief. glad yous proved me wrong. very good in the second half. thought austy played very well. could easily have been a few sent of in this match though. a lot of punches thrown (both sides).
the ogs pitch looked outstanding. definately one of the best pitches i've seen in a while.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 30, 2007, 10:46:06 AM

Quote from: direct on April 30, 2007, 10:20:41 AM
A disgrace to football in general

Lets leave Whitecross's performance out of this...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on April 30, 2007, 10:48:24 AM
heard billy joe padden was engaged with a niece of the late Peter loughran so there could be some truth in the rumour he is moving to cruppen next year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: direct on April 30, 2007, 10:51:09 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on April 30, 2007, 10:46:06 AM

Quote from: direct on April 30, 2007, 10:20:41 AM
A disgrace to football in general

Lets leave Whitecross's performance out of this...

Not meaning to take you back to school, but it's Whitecross' :D
Does not say much about yourselves when you could only beat them by 6 points then, does it?
No mention about the kick in the head then, or trying to get it changed to 2 yellows? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 30, 2007, 10:54:17 AM
Quoteheard billy joe padden was engaged with a niece of the late Peter loughran so there could be some truth in the rumour he is moving to cruppen next year

thats correct getting married next year and will be living in the locality
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on April 30, 2007, 11:32:16 AM
From Orchard county.com


ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 29 APRIL 2007


Wednesday 25 April

ACL – Division II
St Patrick's 1-12; St Michael's 2-6


Friday 27 April

ACL – Division III
St Paul's 1-5; Sarsfields 0-12

ACL – Division IV
Belleek v Shane O'Neill's (Off)


Sunday 29 April

ACL – Division I
Whitecross 0-8; Dromintee 0-14
Crossmaglen 1-15; Harps 2-4
Culloville 0-7; Maghery 1-13
Pearse Og 0-10; Clan na Gael 0-15
Tir na nÓg 0-9; Mullaghbawn 1-6

ACL – Division II
Annaghmore 3-6; Granemore 1-10
Ballymacnab 0-10; Carrickcruppen 4-9
Keady 0-12; Wolfe Tones 0-12
Killeavey 0-10; St Michael's 0-8
St Patrick's 0-9; Clann Eireann 0-8
St Peter's 2-7; Silverbridge 2-12

ACL – Division III
Ballyhegan 0-16; Crossmaglen II 0-5
Clady 1-12; Clonmore 0-16
Lissummon v Tullysaran (Off)
Madden 3-10; Middletown 1-9
An Port Mor 1-6; Collegeland 1-8

ACL – Division IV
Derrynoose 3-6; O'Hanlon's 0-5
Dorsey Emmett's 3-6; Corrinshego 0-5
Eire Og 2-11; Belleek 2-9
Grange 2-11; Mullaghbrack 0-4
Phelim Brady's 2-4; Forkhill 2-15

County Feile Semi-Final Replay
Shane O'Neill's 3-11; Pearse Og 2-4



ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES


Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 3 3 0 0 6
Dromintee 3 2 0 1 4
Mullaghbawn 2 1 1 0 3
Maghery 2 1 1 0 3
Tir na nÓg 2 1 1 0 3
Clan na Gael 3 1 1 1 3
Whitecross 3 1 0 2 2
Pearse Og 2 0 1 1 1
Harps 3 0 1 2 1
Culloville 3 0 0 3 0

Division II
P W D L Pts
Killeavey 3 3 0 0 6
St Patrick's 2 2 0 0 4
Silverbridge 2 2 0 0 4
Carrickcruppen 3 2 0 1 4
Wolfe Tones 3 1 1 1 3
Clann Eireann 2 1 0 1 2
Granemore 2 1 0 2 2
Annaghmore 3 1 0 2 2
Ballymacnab 3 1 0 2 2
St Michael's 3 1 0 2 2
Keady 3 0 1 2 1
St Peter's 3 0 0 3 0

Division III
P W D L Pts
Madden 3 3 0 0 6
Sarsfields 3 3 0 0 6
Ballyhegan 2 2 0 0 4
An Port Mor 3 2 0 1 4
Collegeland 3 2 0 1 4
St Paul's 3 1 1 1 3
Lissummon 2 1 0 1 2
Clonmore 3 1 0 2 2
Tullysaran 2 0 1 1 1
Middletown 2 0 0 2 0
Clady 3 0 0 3 0
Crossmaglen II 3 0 0 3 0

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Eire Og 3 3 0 0 6
Dorsey Emmett's 3 2 1 0 5
Grange 2 2 0 0 4
Derrynoose 3 2 0 1 4
Mullaghbrack 3 2 0 1 4
Shane O'Neill's 1 1 0 0 2
Forkhill 3 1 0 2 2
O'Hanlon's 3 0 1 2 1
Belleek 1 0 0 1 0
Corrinshego 3 0 0 3 0
Phelim Brady's 3 0 0 3 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 30, 2007, 12:14:35 PM
Quote from: direct on April 30, 2007, 10:51:09 AM
Not meaning to take you back to school, but it's Whitecross' :D

Gramatics are such an effective way to win an argument...

Quote from: direct on April 30, 2007, 10:51:09 AM
Does not say much about yourselves when you could only beat them by 6 points then, does it?

Of course, this is true. a six point defeat is really a moral victory for you.

Quote from: direct on April 30, 2007, 10:51:09 AM
No mention about the kick in the head then, or trying to get it changed to 2 yellows? ???

Noone tried to change anything? as if we were gonna talk to that gobshite from portadown.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Crossban on April 30, 2007, 12:28:35 PM

Less of the patronising shite there Ada. we could've beaten you twice last year so i wouldn't be acting so high and mighty.

The sending off may have been a bit harsh but i didn't think the ref gave us any more than he gave you boys and for most of the second half we couldn't get a free for love nor money.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on April 30, 2007, 01:37:16 PM
Quotewe could've  beaten you twice last year so i wouldn't be acting so high and mighty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Crossban on April 30, 2007, 03:18:27 PM

Ok smartass Should've

I will say that i couldn't help wondering during the game yesterday how Armagh are putting 15 better footballers out than Aidan O'Rourke. still a quality player.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 30, 2007, 03:37:27 PM
who was the drumintee player sent off  yesterday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 30, 2007, 03:57:49 PM
The answer to the Aidan O' rourke question is simple. Aidan had and still has a great footballing brain, however he is simply lacking the fitness levels andthe pace to deal with the elite players of our game. So whilst he may be mentally sharp i am afraid the years have caught up on him which is a shame for the county team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 30, 2007, 04:13:24 PM
Quote from: Crossban on April 30, 2007, 12:28:35 PM
i didn't think the ref gave us any more than he gave you boys and for most of the second half we couldn't get a free for love nor money.

you have to be joking.

Quote from: winsamsoon on April 30, 2007, 12:28:35 PM
he is simply lacking the fitness levels andthe pace to deal with the elite players of our game.

any examples of that winsamsoon? common misconception... what you meant to say is he looks slow and unfit. aidan is actually one of the quickest and fittest players at our club and i haven't seen any forward get the better of him for club or county in a long time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on April 30, 2007, 04:14:27 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on April 30, 2007, 10:54:17 AM
Quoteheard billy joe padden was engaged with a niece of the late Peter loughran so there could be some truth in the rumour he is moving to cruppen next year

thats correct getting married next year and will be living in the locality

so what are the odds he will join the county squad when he moves and answer the question of who will replace geezer at CHB!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 30, 2007, 04:19:00 PM
no dont think he will join the county squad imo he'll want to take after his father and become a mayo great.....dont think he's good enough to replace geezer at chb tought we had an already made replacement in ciaran mckeever do we not?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on April 30, 2007, 04:30:04 PM
can`t see him travelling from camlough to mayo, what age is he
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 30, 2007, 04:37:02 PM
well bumpy ohagan used to travell from donegal to armagh and andrew mc cann from kildare 2 nights a week for trainin! he played on the mayo team beaten by armagh in the all-ireland u21 team so i'd say around 23 or so
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on April 30, 2007, 04:43:38 PM
i suppose if one had a choice of listening to the judge ::)r  at cruppen training or the radio on the way to mayo i`d know which one i would pick
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 30, 2007, 04:51:05 PM
think mine would be the radio on the way to mayo to be honest its bad enough listenin to him in camlough.. :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on April 30, 2007, 04:51:57 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on April 30, 2007, 04:19:00 PM
no dont think he will join the county squad imo he'll want to take after his father and become a mayo great.....dont think he's good enough to replace geezer at chb tought we had an already made replacement in ciaran mckeever do we not?

mckeever is definately an option, and would probably be a better CHB than BJP, but his temperment and persistant silly fouling could be a problem for us if he is put in that central role.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on April 30, 2007, 04:57:23 PM
imo mckeever has yet to preform to the best of his ability....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on April 30, 2007, 04:59:04 PM
have only seen him in the county jersey as i am no longer based at home, so don't really get to see club games. to be honest, i haven't been that impressed by him in the matches that i have seen him a CHB.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 01, 2007, 12:26:13 AM
Aidan O'Rourke is slow certainly too slow to play county level and he is carrying too much weight one has only to look at him. You say that no forward has got the better of him??? If you examine his game most of his good work is done going forward ie picking the precision ball not man marking a man out of the game. He was never renowned for his defensive qualities. He provided a good knowledge of the game and a coolness under pressure however he would no longer cut it at county level in my eyes.What does the rest of you think?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on May 01, 2007, 12:30:49 AM
Ure an asshole winsamsoon!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on May 01, 2007, 09:01:56 AM
I think Aidan O'Rourke should definitely still be on the Armagh panel, he still has a lot to offer. Whether that is as cover for others or starting I'm not sure. The only problem is, would he settle for that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 01, 2007, 09:53:19 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 01, 2007, 12:26:13 AM
Aidan O'Rourke is slow certainly too slow to play county level and he is carrying too much weight one has only to look at him. You say that no forward has got the better of him??? If you examine his game most of his good work is done going forward ie picking the precision ball not man marking a man out of the game. He was never renowned for his defensive qualities. He provided a good knowledge of the game and a coolness under pressure however he would no longer cut it at county level in my eyes.What does the rest of you think?

Winsamsoon is correct, Aidan's best days are behind him. He's a stone overweight and the wrong side of 30. However, he will still be a very good club player for Dromintee for another year or two. He was also better at bombing forward than man marking and he was (and i am sure still is) very good and picking a man out with a killer pass but you Dromintee lads have to admit that to many birthdays and pies have got the better of him for intercounty football :D :D. And don't forget big Joe and Aidan are not the best of buddies anyway. Remember county final a few years ago and a few punches were landed on a member of the Kernan clan ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 01, 2007, 10:11:32 AM
sure the o'rourkes wouldn't fight... :D
Title: Aidan O'Rourke
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2007, 10:31:33 AM

Looks like we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. AOR's biggest strength has always been his tackling, followed by his passing. The last games he played for armagh were the two ulster finals, all ireland quarter final and all ireland semi of 2005. in the three tyrone games he marked dooher out of it and he was mom in the 1/4 final against Laois playing centre half back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bensars on May 01, 2007, 10:40:23 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2007, 10:31:33 AM

Looks like we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. AOR's biggest strength has always been his tackling, followed by his passing. The last games he played for armagh were the two ulster finals, all ireland quarter final and all ireland semi of 2005. in the three tyrone games he marked dooher out of it and he was mom in the 1/4 final against Laois playing centre half back.

in the three tyrone games he marked dooher out of it  ;D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2007, 10:55:57 AM

You didn't get to those games bensars. pity, they were good games...




Just read your "recent posts". you fairly make a contribution to every debate you get involved in  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 01, 2007, 11:16:14 AM

Previous performances can't be used to assess how anyone could perform at county football now. O'Rourke taking care of dooher 18 months ago doesn't mean he could do it now and i suspect county football no longer interests him. The poster who claimed that he was never noted for his defensive work hasn't seen many armagh games since 2000 as thats basically why he was in the team. mccann, hughes and laterly Kernan and Duffy are attacking wing backs whereas O'Rourke always had the defensive jobs on the likes of toye, dooher, cavlan, sheehan, etc. Obviously his passing was a great weapon for armagh during that time also. Oisin McConville, bumpy o'hagan and O'Rourke have consistently been the best club footballers in armagh over the last 5/6 years and in Dromintee's clashes with Cross over the last 5/6 years he has been consistently excellent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 01, 2007, 01:51:26 PM
i heard marty has never fought b4 ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Crossban on May 01, 2007, 02:18:53 PM

Jeez, forget i mentioned it. i simply said that going on sunday's performance against us AOR should still be playing for the county. calm down one and all!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on May 01, 2007, 02:58:01 PM
Aidan O'Rourke is still paying the price for a bad team performance against Fermanagh in 2004, where, in particular their wings forwards give us a roasting.  After that Joe straight away started looking for smaller, faster halfbacks (McKeever, Kernan, Duffy).  None of these boys can defend like O'Rourke, strong in the tackle and a great sence of where to be.  I think he should still be there.  Sean O'Sullivan bullied Paul Duffy out of it last year, he wouldn't have done that to O'Rourke.  Obviously his passing is sublime - remember the pass to McDonnell for the winning score in the All-Ireland final in 2002.
Title: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on May 01, 2007, 03:34:12 PM
I think there is a risk here of overdoing a particular subject - the Aidan O'Rourke debate has been done to death - yes he is a good footballer and probably should at least be on the county squad but for whatever reason he is not - next subject please....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2007, 03:38:25 PM
Quote from: Scarface on May 01, 2007, 03:34:12 PM
he is a good footballer and probably should at least be on the county squad but for whatever reason he is not - next subject please....

ok....

Does Joe Kernan put his own family and club priorities above those of the county team?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 01, 2007, 03:45:00 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2007, 03:38:25 PM
Quote from: Scarface on May 01, 2007, 03:34:12 PM
he is a good footballer and probably should at least be on the county squad but for whatever reason he is not - next subject please....

ok....

Does Joe Kernan put his own family and club priorities above those of the county team?

Catch a f**king grip of yourself.
We are from Dromintee and no one likes us attitude doesnt wash anymore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on May 01, 2007, 03:53:13 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2007, 03:38:25 PM
Quote from: Scarface on May 01, 2007, 03:34:12 PM
he is a good footballer and probably should at least be on the county squad but for whatever reason he is not - next subject please....

ok....

Does Joe Kernan put his own family and club priorities above those of the county team?
What, don't be stupid, just look at the facts...
Francie Bellew an all-star full back, and a hero among Armagh supporters
Paul Hearty - the best keeper in the county
Aaron Kernan - overall young Player of the year
Osin Mc Connville - one of the best forwards in Ireland in the past decade
Stephen Kernan - an u21 all-ireland medal winner, who was one of the most influential players on that team
The Mac's before they retired were brilliant players for Armagh and would have got on almost all county teams in the country!
Need I say more??
Title: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on May 01, 2007, 03:58:11 PM
'Stephen Kernan - an u21 all-ireland medal winner, who was one of the most influential players on that team' -

maybe true - but his performances when given his numerous chances at senior level have not been too hot. Compare that to other guys who have been put on the team for 1 game and then dropped off the radar for ever more - I think you would have to admit he is getting treated favourably as the managers son.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on May 01, 2007, 04:05:03 PM
Yes I agree that he is getting an extra stay of execution, as the managers son, but I still rate him as a fine footballer.  Maybe the fact that he was taken onto the squad to soon (due to his Da) has lead people to believe otherwise, but as for the rest of the cross' players I don't think there is a bias there.imo.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2007, 04:08:46 PM
Who mentioned dromintee?

I was thinking more about

removing grimley and attempting the same with mcgeeney to clear the only two barriers to playing sk.

refusing to ever take aaron off despite frequent roastings against top drawer opponents.

persisting with starting oisin over the past two years when he clearly no longer had the legs for 70 minutes of championship football at that level.

Keeping SK on the county panel, usually a privileged and hard fought for position, for four years despite that he's not making his club team.

Overlooking players of potential county talent or, more usually, playing players out of position if they may compete for certain positions on the team.

Leaving Francie on o'neill for 70 minutes in 2005 despite him scoring 10 points

....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on May 01, 2007, 04:13:58 PM
aghadoyle whilst I agree with you about sk, geezer and grimley, oisin is still one of our better players as are ak and Francie.
the biggest gripe I have is the situation with regard to the mc entees, who would still be there if sk wasnt
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2007, 04:21:00 PM

oisin is a class act but can only produce his great points now in small patches, usually at the end of games. far more games than enough he does't touch leather and should be coming on with 15 or 20 mins to go.

Francie is a good full back an most games does a solid job. he's susceptible to pace and mobility and quite often gets a right runaround. Fermanagh gave him a fair run around last year for example but he's never moved in thoses situs.

ak offers ahuge amount attacking but players like mcginley, sheehan, hegarty, galvin and bradley have roasted him and there glaringly obvious solution is to move him to the half forward line. not as easy though when you are being marked by a defender and joe knows that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 01, 2007, 04:25:18 PM
Tackle if the brunt of your opinion is to call someone an asshole then obviously it could be argued that you are discribing yourself. But then again what do expect from a pig only a grunt. To these guys that complain about what others write, as i have said before this is a message board where people share their views. If you don't like a topic then read something else. To the guy that said about not being at any Armagh games. I don't think i have missed a championship game in a long while and i am talking before we won an All Ireland or post 99. In my eyes O'Rourke is past it in terms of county. I am not taking anything away from him personally. He was another one of Armagh's unsung heroes. Himself and Andy Mc Cann never got the recognition they deserved. But we have to look at the majority of county players now they are all mobile the majority of players can shift and play a bit of football. Gaelic is now all built around speed. Half backs must be mobile and flying fit, you have only to look at the Kerry half backs to see what i am talking about. O' Rourke would never be able to come up to this mark. Kernan realised this against Fermanagh as someone said because it was noticeable, the lack of pace Armgh had in this area. The game is all about workrate, at present O'Rourke would blow up but i agree with I'll Decide, he will still make a great contribution to his club. When the All Ireland is decided this year look at the winners and look at the half back line i guarantee it will be a strong one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on May 01, 2007, 04:44:57 PM
QuoteStephen Kernan - an u21 all-ireland medal winner, who was one of the most influential players on that team
Maybe a fair point, but WAS. Over the last few years Armagh was lucky enough to have few good U-21 teams, but to play ok in a few games at U21 Championship (and it is only a  few, 5 max in a year)and to step up to county level is a massive difference and your reasons for him being there proves point trying to make.  U21 success was 4 years ago, now he has still yet to make an impact despite benefiting from 5 years top class training and looked after like very few county teams in Ireland are; also benefiting from chances like noone else got.  So if people think he deserves his place they aren't as knowledgeable as they think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 02, 2007, 09:33:04 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2007, 04:21:00 PM
ak offers ahuge amount attacking but players like mcginley, sheehan, hegarty, galvin and bradley have roasted him and there glaringly obvious solution is to move him to the half forward line. not as easy though when you are being marked by a defender and joe knows that

That's were every anti-cross argument falls down, Aaron has been and is consistently excellent, I certainly don't recall him being 'roasted' by each the above players (even marking them in fact - Paddy Bradley?), and if he takes the odd triming, so what? can you name a HB that hasn't? (and don't go mentioning AOR now ;))  Also I really believe he'd be better in the HF line is pure folly, Charlie Vernon is the prime example of a HB converted to a HF that hasn't worked, and quite simply it's because is back is now to the goals, he doesn't have the advantage of always facing forward, running onto balls with momentum, seeing whats going on around him and primarily because he is a back not a forward!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on May 02, 2007, 09:39:27 AM
Anyone know the result of the Keady v Middletown Senior hurling fixture last night or any Armagh league results
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 02, 2007, 09:50:51 AM

Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2007, 04:21:00 PM
I certainly don't recall him being 'roasted' by each the above players (even marking them in fact - Paddy Bradley?)

Since you asked - Roastings -

Eoin Bradley Vs Derry in Casement Park 2005
Enda McGinley Drawn Ulster final 2005
Billy Sheehan AI Quarter final 2005
Michael Hegarty 2006
Paul Galvin AI Quarter final 2006.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 02, 2007, 10:02:30 AM
QuoteEoin Bradley Vs Derry in Casement Park 2005

are u sure enda mcnulty wasnt markin bradley that day...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on May 02, 2007, 10:05:33 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 02, 2007, 09:50:51 AM

Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2007, 04:21:00 PM
I certainly don't recall him being 'roasted' by each the above players (even marking them in fact - Paddy Bradley?)

Since you asked - Roastings -

Eoin Bradley Vs Derry in Casement Park 2005 - Agree, yet if I remeber correctly was he named MOTM? - He was marking him that day, not Enda

Apart from that I wouldn't agree that he was roasted by any of these
Enda McGinley Drawn Ulster final 2005
Billy Sheehan AI Quarter final 2005
Michael Hegarty 2006
Paul Galvin AI Quarter final 2006.

AK is a damn fine footballer, whose dedication, work on his game and preparation throughout the year is as good an example I could use as an underage coach.

I would consider him to be a 'man made footballer' - and this is even more to his credit

The people who have such a problem with big Joe should cop on, I can see why some have a problem with Stephen being on the county panel (I would stand up for him, but I can see the argument) but for him own supporters to turn on Aaron - Jesus lads wise up!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 02, 2007, 10:07:46 AM
TBH Aghdavoyle, it is pretty clear that you have a gripe against Crossmaglen in general.
Any player you have mentioned is from Cross ???
Are you sure it isnt jealousy :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 02, 2007, 10:21:15 AM
Quote from: full back on May 02, 2007, 10:07:46 AM
TBH Aghdavoyle, it is pretty clear that you have a gripe against Crossmaglen in general.
Any player you have mentioned is from Cross ???

Do you think that might be because i was asked to give examples of how i thought joe gave cross players preferential treatment?

not much point talking about players from other clubs in that regard, is there einstein?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 02, 2007, 10:46:45 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2007, 03:38:25 PM
ok....

Does Joe Kernan put his own family and club priorities above those of the county team?

I think you will find you said the above ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SuperHans on May 02, 2007, 11:29:56 AM
in 05 McNulty was marking Collie Devlin.i was expecting him to roast enda but didnt happen so ak must of been on eoin bradley as he was in the half forward line that day
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 02, 2007, 11:31:14 AM
We're all armagh men lads. much as i disagree with a lot of what joe does it's very disappointing to read this type of stuff on the armagh thread. I think even the most hardened cross man will agree that he has a great belief in the ability of his own club men, sometimes to a fault and that his own lads can benefeit from being joe's son. i'm sure there are times when it does not help them to be the managers son. That said, its very difficult to believe that Joe Kernan would consciously make a decision for personal reasons which would handicap the strength of the team armagh can put on the field.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TG4 on May 02, 2007, 11:33:25 AM
aaron kernan actually won the man of the match award in the ulster semi final v derry in casement in 2005 so he mustnt have got that bad of a roasting
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 02, 2007, 11:37:30 AM
Quote from: Uladh on May 02, 2007, 11:31:14 AM
its very difficult to believe that Joe Kernan would consciously make a decision for personal reasons which would handicap the strength of the team armagh can put on the field.

The subconscious can reveal all
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 02, 2007, 11:51:08 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 02, 2007, 11:37:30 AM
The subconscious can reveal all

Here we go again ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 02, 2007, 12:00:11 PM
ANYWAY>>>
predictions:

ACL – Division I (2.00)
Dromintee v Crossmaglen (Brendan Gorman) Wednesday 11 May (7.30)     
Harps v Pearse Og (Tony Watters) 
Maghery v Whitecross (Stephen Murray) 
Mullaghbawn v Culloville (Gary Smith)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: harps2002champs on May 02, 2007, 12:04:58 PM
Quote from: Candyman on May 02, 2007, 12:00:11 PM
ANYWAY>>>
predictions:

ACL – Division I (2.00)
Dromintee v Crossmaglen (Brendan Gorman) Wednesday 11 May (7.30)     cross
Harps v Pearse Og (Tony Watters)                                                        harps
Maghery v Whitecross (Stephen Murray)                                                maghery
Mullaghbawn v Culloville (Gary Smith)                                                     m'bawn
   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 02, 2007, 12:07:04 PM

One game missing there somewhere candyman?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 02, 2007, 12:19:13 PM
Clanns are playing someone tonight aren't they? Portydown?

Some interesting fixtures at the weekend, Dromintee v Cross and Harps v Ogs, no county men about so Ogs will be worse off than ourselves, might be enough to sneak it for us, it certainly wont be for the faint hearted!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 02, 2007, 12:21:37 PM
fancy dromintee to beat cross! cross will be without all the county men and dromintee will have aidan o'rourke too strengthen there side dromintee to shade it!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 02, 2007, 12:31:33 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on May 02, 2007, 12:21:37 PM
fancy dromintee to beat cross! cross will be without all the county men and dromintee will have aidan o'rourke too strengthen there side dromintee to shade it!!!

Dromintee v Crossmaglen (Brendan Gorman)                                          cross
Harps v Pearse Og (Tony Watters)                                                        ogs
Maghery v Whitecross (Stephen Murray)                                                maghery
Mullaghbawn v Culloville (Gary Smith)                                                     m'bawn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 02, 2007, 01:03:55 PM
Clans v Portadown tonight @7 in Davitt Park (can't remember who the ref is)

I will update you in the morning about the game, hope them Portadown lads don't start fighting again like they did against Dromintee :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on May 02, 2007, 01:04:27 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 02, 2007, 12:19:13 PM
Clanns are playing someone tonight aren't they? Portydown?

Some interesting fixtures at the weekend, Dromintee v Cross and Harps v Ogs, no county men about so Ogs will be worse off than ourselves, might be enough to sneak it for us, it certainly wont be for the faint hearted!!!

Tried my best to get on the Harps at the weekend in Raffertys, no-one would take my bet, I even gave 3 points, turns out half the pigs are on a stag weekend and cant ask for the movement of the game cuz they judas'd us 2 years ago.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 02, 2007, 03:12:21 PM
I wouldn't be the biggest fan of Kernans selection programme, but lets be honest the selection of players in Armagh over the past decades have always been flawed. Players have been selected by name, repution of their father or sometimes granda, placement, college or even club. So tell me in what way is Joe Kernan changing this sysytem by selecting his sons. Ak Is good enough for senior football at county level but he is played out of position. If you can't admit that the lad has talent then it is just boiling down to jealousy. We could all sit here and name five other players that should be on the armagh squad. We had also players on the national league team that were only selected because of name ie moriaty, mc creesh ( there is definetly better players in the county). This tends to be overlooked and the focus put on the kernans. So i ain't saying it is right but it has always went on and won't change in the near future.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on May 02, 2007, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 02, 2007, 03:12:21 PM
I wouldn't be the biggest fan of Kernans selection programme, but lets be honest the selection of players in Armagh over the past decades have always been flawed. Players have been selected by name, repution of their father or sometimes granda, placement, college or even club. So tell me in what way is Joe Kernan changing this sysytem by selecting his sons. Ak Is good enough for senior football at county level but he is played out of position. If you can't admit that the lad has talent then it is just boiling down to jealousy. We could all sit here and name five other players that should be on the armagh squad. We had also players on the national league team that were only selected because of name ie moriaty, mc creesh ( there is definetly better players in the county). This tends to be overlooked and the focus put on the kernans. So i ain't saying it is right but it has always went on and won't change in the near future.

When your buying a horse, you look at its pedigree 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 02, 2007, 10:21:34 PM
Has joe Kernan no pedigree??? he is obviously good at the breeding stakes.

Clan Na Gael 1-13 Tir Na Og 0-6 tonight referee was brutal again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 03, 2007, 10:13:20 AM
Article in the paper yesterday by joe mentioning Bellew's knee injury which he picked up in cross' first league game of the year vs clan na gael.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on May 03, 2007, 10:24:09 AM
the article from the Irish News was posted on orchardcounty.com


Kernan Not Hopeful On Bellew's Fitness   

ARMAGH manager Joe Kernan is pessimistic about Francie Bellew's chances of being fit for Armagh's first round clash against Donegal. Bellew sustained a knee injury when playing for his club, Crossmaglen, in their first league game of the year against Clan na Gael. Kernan reckons his Allstar defender will not recover in time for the game in Ballybofey. Speaking from Armagh's training base in La Manga, Kernan said: "I don't think he's going to make it." The Orchard County manager has flown to the Spanish resort ahead of his 32-man squad who will arrive tomorrow for a five-day training camp.

Kernan is being kept updated about his players back home, and he will know for certain today if Bellew will be ready for the game against Donegal. "I'm waiting on a phone call from the team doctor and I'll know for definite then, but it's not looking good," said Kernan. This is the fourth time that the Orchard county have travelled to La Manga. Their first trip was in 2002, the year they the All-Ireland title for the first time. They returned in 2004 and 2006. In 2003 they went to Bath, while a rescheduling of fixtures meant they didn't go anywhere in 2005.

When asked to detail the benefits of the warm weather training camp, Kernan said: "The players are away, we are all together and there are no distractions whatsoever. "You know the quality of the work you are going to do is good. For boys coming back from injuries, or for people that need to step up on certain stuff, you can fit an awful lot in during those four or five days." While the Armagh players will be able to train in pleasant climes, Kernan insisted that their five days in the sun would be no holiday camp.

"It will be hard work. The boys will have no problem sleeping," he said. Injuries and an influx of new talent means there is intense competition for places in the Armagh squad. "It's the first time in six years that we have somebody for every position." said Kernan.

The manager is clearly keen to nurture this rivalry amongst his players. When asked if he had a starting side in mind ahead of the game on May 27, he said: "I'd have a good idea in my own mind, but the next four or five days will cement a few things too." Kernan has a formidable record in the Ulster Championship. Since 2002, his team has lost just one of their 19 outings.

But this year, they face one of their toughest challenges ever - Donegal, the reigning National League champions await them on their home turf in Ballybofey. "The best team won the National League. They've improved 100 per cent from the day they met us in the McKenna Cup. Their morale will he high. Nothing beats winning trophies. It won't be easy, that's for sure. "They are the form team at the minute. But we know what we have to do, it's as simple as that," said Kernan.

The Irish News 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 03, 2007, 10:29:13 AM
Clans had a good win last night over Tir Na Og, there was only one point in it at half time but just like sunday's game with the Og's they turned on the style in the second half. A Philip Oldham goal half way through the second when the clans were 4pts up killed the game as a contest. 8)

Tir Na Og were poor on the night and i'm sure that result won't have given them much confidence for their championship encounter with the Clans taking into account they didn't score in the second half :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on May 03, 2007, 10:44:41 AM
Bad news for Armagh alright. I think the question has to be asked why the team has had so many cruciate injuries this year as it seems to be more than a coincidence. Something with last years training methods or too much football?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 03, 2007, 11:37:33 AM
Who were the others who fell foul to the cruciate injuries?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 03, 2007, 11:38:58 AM
Clarke, mallon, donnelly
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 03, 2007, 12:33:45 PM
QuoteClans had a good win last night over Tir Na Og, there was only one point in it at half time but just like sunday's game with the Og's they turned on the style in the second half. A Philip Oldham goal half way through the second when the clans were 4pts up killed the game as a contest.

Tir Na Og were poor on the night and i'm sure that result won't have given them much confidence for their championship encounter with the Clans taking into account they didn't score in the second half

Hopefully the second half performance will be a huge wake up call. Tir na nÓg just didnt seem to want it in the second half and some poor shooting made the forwards drop there heads abit. Good match in the first half and if the whole match is like the first half then we will have a good championship game. If its like the second half then I fear the worst!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on May 03, 2007, 12:47:49 PM
i'd agree with illdecide's post on this.
first half was a good game of football alright. i think by half time the clans had woke up and figured out how to cope better with portadown tactically. oldham's goal killed of the game completely but the clans would probably have run out comfortable winners anyway.

why was scully not playing?

on another note. i thought it was a disappointing turnout for the game. thought there would have been more there with the weather being great and midweek an all. must have been the man utd factor  ::)
Title: Re: Bellew Out
Post by: Spiritof98 on May 03, 2007, 01:18:38 PM
Armagh full-back Francie Bellew has been ruled out of this year's Bank of Ireland Football Championship.
Scans have revealed that Bellew suffered a ruptured cruciate ligament in a recent club game and he is certain to be out for several months.

It's a massive injury blow for Armagh who are already currently without Ronan Clarke, Brian Mallon and JP Donnelly.

Despite the injury, Joe Kernan is said to be optimistic that Bellew will return to the intercounty game.

The tough Armagh defender has been a tremendous servant for club and county.

He has regularly played through the pain barrier for both Crossmaglen and Armagh but this serious injury makes a long spell on the sidelines inevitable.

The Armagh squad are currently five-day training camp in La Manga.

Armagh face Donegal in their Ulster Championship opener at Ballybofey on 27 March.

Ulster officials are said to be happy that the Ballybofey ground will be ready for the game.

Provincial secretary Danny Murphy and Ulster president Tom Daly held a meeting with Donegal officials to discuss the ongoing development earlier this week.

"Arising from the visit, there was agreement on the full schedule of works to be undertaken, and the immediate requirements will be completed in advance of the Donegal v Armagh championship game on 27 May," said Danny Murphy.








Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on May 03, 2007, 01:22:54 PM
Terrible news about Francie. Will he ever be back? Who will replace him at FB? Toner?

Quotewhy was scully not playing?

AFAIK both Scully and McAllister will be playing for Dungannon in Saturday's Irish cup final.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 03, 2007, 01:28:22 PM
Quotewhy was scully not playing?

I haven't seen scully all year well at least not at any of the matches, word on the street is that he's concentrating on the soccer. He will probably come back once the season has ended.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 03, 2007, 01:58:55 PM
Did Tony Kenran do his cruciate also?

I think big Toner would be the long term replacement, but may have it tough against the more mobile of full forwards!

McKeever/McGeeney may be the centre/full back options.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on May 03, 2007, 02:32:52 PM
Charlie Vernon could certainly do a job at full back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 03, 2007, 03:48:53 PM
heard yesterday (although not 100% reliable source mite i add) that the two granemore men on the county panel got cleaned playing for their club on sunday???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 03, 2007, 03:52:58 PM
heard that myself shane smith scored 3-2 at full forward for annaghmore against tony mcclelland......so definately dont want him at full back...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 03, 2007, 03:55:35 PM
if shane smith can score 3-2 then what will any county forward do to him.... ??? :o :o :o
although everyone can have their off-day i suppose ??????????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 03, 2007, 04:09:27 PM
suppose ur right but mcclelland done ok during the mc kenna cup nd in the national league dont u think?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 03, 2007, 04:14:37 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on May 03, 2007, 04:09:27 PM
suppose ur right but mcclelland done ok during the mc kenna cup nd in the national league dont u think?

no, in fact i thought he was shocking. i couldn't see why he was on the u21 team either, let alone the senior panel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on May 03, 2007, 04:15:45 PM
Shane Smyths a quality player as well though, scored for fun last year and he's doing the same now this year in Division 2, and he used to be on the county panel.  McClelland's definitley not a full back though, usually plays midfield for Granemore with Toner.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on May 03, 2007, 04:19:01 PM
should they not have tried someone else on him instead of allowing smyth to score 3 goals. shocking management
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 03, 2007, 04:21:57 PM
Quoteshould they not have tried someone else on him instead of allowing smyth to score 3 goals. shocking management

its granemore we are talkin about here they can hardly afford to pay anyone decent to manage them could they?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 03, 2007, 04:24:39 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on May 03, 2007, 04:21:57 PM
[they can hardly afford to pay anyone decent to manage them could they?

Surely not?

Armagh off to la manga today... hope we get them all home in one piece!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on May 03, 2007, 04:30:12 PM
But of a stupid mistake by the management, especially with Toner there as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 03, 2007, 04:30:21 PM
The Clan na Gael full back "Micky Austin" could do a job there, he's big, strong and a safe pair of hands. His only problem is he loves the cream buns to much, but a bit of county training would soon get him into shape.

O, just remembered he loves the beer as well, that could be a problem!! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on May 03, 2007, 04:34:19 PM
Shane had excellent game against McClelland but I wouldnt blame the Granemore man einterly.  At times Shanes pace and power made him unmarkable, that added to the fact that the ball coming in from our half back line was at times brilliant made it difficult for McClelland.  There were times when other players were tried on Smyth but when they were he became a great play maker and ultimately as dangerous to Granemore so McClelland was put back on him

Shane has now scored i believe 5-8 in his opening three games and to be honest I think he should be back in the county squad but that would undoubtedly hurt Annaghmore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 03, 2007, 04:35:32 PM
he wasnt too good against cruppen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on May 03, 2007, 04:48:30 PM
Was he not?  I wasn't at the game as I was on holiday.  I had heard it was one of his poorer games though.  Did he score?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 03, 2007, 04:50:54 PM
think he might have got a point maybe but he wasnt that hot david kelly handled him well kept pushing him onto his right foot which of course is his weak side...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 03, 2007, 05:07:18 PM
candyman
Quoteheard yesterday (although not 100% reliable source mite i add) that the two granemore men on the county panel got cleaned playing for their club on sunday??
If you read this thread you would have seen about McClelland! David has it in his report on the game.

ard mhaca abu
Quoteits granemore we are talkin about here they can hardly afford to pay anyone decent to manage them could they?
Dont be so condescending.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 04, 2007, 08:38:11 AM
Big Smith was super in a challenge with Ballyhegan a month ago also.

Just don't think he has the speed for county football, but did big Colm Corkery!!  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 04, 2007, 09:12:46 AM
did think he's good enough to feature in the armagh squad...he never made an impression when he was there but cant remember seein him play much county football....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on May 04, 2007, 10:19:39 AM
Shane played 5 minutes in a national league game in 2002 and scored for Armagh in the charity match after the All Ireland final that was all the football he got but at the same time he was one of if not the first player Geezer thanked at the dinner after the All Ireland.

As regards to speed, I have seen him quicker than he is at the minute but thats not his best asset.  His strength at running past people is,  I havent seen anyone this year or last who played against us, who could run through the middle of the defence for a score as easily as he could.  I suppose its a lot easier to do that in divisions 2 and 3 than at county level but I still think he would be worth a try in a McKenna cup or league campaign
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 04, 2007, 10:20:52 AM
what age is he?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 04, 2007, 01:10:41 PM
He's 44 on Monday ;D ;D He's not good enough for Inter County football, end of topic
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 04, 2007, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 04, 2007, 01:10:41 PM
He's 44 on Monday ;D ;D He's not good enough for Inter County football, end of topic


HA HA HA HA....but Micky Austin is?????  ;D ;D ;D :o :o :o ::) :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 04, 2007, 04:31:43 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 04, 2007, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 04, 2007, 01:10:41 PM
He's 44 on Monday ;D ;D He's not good enough for Inter County football, end of topic


HA HA HA HA....but Micky Austin is?????  ;D ;D ;D :o :o :o ::) :P

Good one Goat :D, i was kinda taking the piss with Micky :P.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on May 05, 2007, 12:10:09 AM
Not 100% sure I think he is 25 but I would need to check
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2007, 03:04:22 PM
The bridge beat Keady by 3.

Not a great game, fair bit of dirt in it it and we were a good bit away from being our best. We'd a decent first half.  Ciaran Conlon chipped the keeper to take a superb goal and at half time there was 4 between us.  We were getting it fairly easy but several missed chances in the second half and a fortunate Keady goal with ten minutes to go leveled the scores.  Edge of the seat stuff for the last ten minutes though we were holding on tight to a one point lead and broke away again, with two points, in the FIFTH AND SIXTH minutes of injury time.


Cullyhanna next week   ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on May 06, 2007, 03:26:57 PM
RESULTS:

Belleek 2-11 Dorsey Emmet's 3-04

Harps 1-07 Pearse Og's 2-09
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on May 06, 2007, 05:58:27 PM
Quote from: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on May 06, 2007, 03:26:57 PM
RESULTS:

Belleek 2-11 Dorsey Emmet's 3-04

Harps 1-07 Pearse Og's 2-09

Aaaaahhhh ballllliiiiixxxxxxxxx!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 06, 2007, 06:04:37 PM
You getting the boxing gloves on then POG?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 06, 2007, 07:00:41 PM
Any other Armagh results?

Shane O'Neill's beat Crossmaglen in the Feile Final.
Lissummon beat Sarsfields by a goal.
I think the Maghery and Whitecross game was off.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2007, 09:22:54 PM
Corn
QuoteYou getting the boxing gloves on then POG?
I will in me f**k.  I'll be parked at the gate with the car facing ford's.   :P 
I really think it'll either take out or go off without incident. Sad thing is it could be a really good game, if they wanted to play football.



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From orchard county...
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 6 MAY 2007


Wednesday 2 May

ACL – Division I
Clan na Gael 2-13; Tir na nÓg 1-3


Friday 4 May

ACL – Division III
Lissummon 2-10; Sarsfields 1-10


Saturday 5 May

ACL – Division I
Mullaghbawn 2-13; Culloville 2-8


Sunday 6 May

ACL – Division I
Dromintee v Crossmaglen (Off)
Harps 1-7; Pearse Og 2-9
Maghery v Whitecross (Off)

ACL – Division II
Carrickcruppen v St Peter's (Off)
Clann Eireann 1-12; Annaghmore 0-6
Granemore 0-6; Killeavey 1-12
St Michael's 0-14; Ballymacnab 0-11
Silverbridge 1-10; Keady 1-7
Wolfe Tones 1-9; St Patrick's 1-12

ACL – Division III
Clonmore 0-5; St Paul's 1-13
Collegeland 1-9; Ballyhegan 0-9
Crossmaglen II 2-5; Madden 1-12
Middletown 1-12; Clady 0-9
Tullysaran 1-4; An Port Mor 0-11

ACL – Division IV
Belleek 2-11; Dorsey Emmett's 3-4
Corrinshego 0-7; Derrynoose 4-13
Forkhill v Grange (Off)
O'Hanlon's v Phelim Brady's (Off)
Shane O'Neill's 2-9; Eire Og 1-7

County Feile Final
Shane O'Neill's defeated Crossmaglen



ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007
Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 3 3 0 0 6
Mullaghbawn 3 2 1 0 5
Clan na Gael 4 2 1 1 5
Dromintee 3 2 0 1 4
Maghery 2 1 1 0 3
Pearse Og 3 1 1 1 3
Tir na nÓg 3 1 1 1 3
Whitecross 3 1 0 2 2
Harps 4 0 1 3 1
Culloville 4 0 0 4 0

Division II
P W D L Pts
Killeavey 4 4 0 0 8
St Patrick's 3 3 0 0 6
Silverbridge 3 3 0 0 6
Carrickcruppen 3 2 0 1 4
Clann Eireann 3 2 0 1 4
St Michael's 4 2 0 2 4
Wolfe Tones 4 1 1 2 3
Granemore 3 1 0 3 2
Annaghmore 4 1 0 3 2
Ballymacnab 4 1 0 3 2
Keady 4 0 1 3 1
St Peter's 3 0 0 3 0

Division III
P W D L Pts
Madden 4 4 0 0 8
An Port Mor 4 3 0 1 6
Collegeland 4 3 0 1 6
Sarsfields 4 3 0 1 6
St Paul's 4 2 1 1 5
Ballyhegan 3 2 0 1 4
Lissummon 3 2 0 1 4
Middletown 3 1 0 2 2
Clonmore 4 1 0 3 2
Tullysaran 3 0 1 2 1
Clady 4 0 0 4 0
Crossmaglen II 4 0 0 4 0

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Derrynoose 4 3 0 1 6
Eire Og 4 3 0 1 6
Dorsey Emmett's 4 2 1 1 5
Grange 2 2 0 0 4
Shane O'Neill's 2 2 0 0 4
Mullaghbrack 3 2 0 1 4
Belleek 2 1 0 1 2
Forkhill 3 1 0 2 2
O'Hanlon's 3 0 1 2 1
Phelim Brady's 3 0 0 3 0
Corrinshego 4 0 0 4 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 06, 2007, 09:38:29 PM
Pint,
I hear that Radio FiveFm is covering your game with St Patrick's Live next Sunday.
Did you hear any word of this?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2007, 09:41:20 PM
I didn't hear but I wouldn't be surprised.  Didn't they cover a game today and everyone will be expecting a row at ours so it's a good one to do. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 06, 2007, 09:43:52 PM
Not everyone will be expecting a row.  I for one won't as I think Silverbridge will be more intent on playing football this time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2007, 09:45:56 PM
And were the bridge not intent on playing football the last time?  ::)

You trying to wind me up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 06, 2007, 09:47:53 PM
Correct Pint.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2007, 09:49:29 PM
On which statement?  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 06, 2007, 09:53:43 PM
QuoteAnd were the bridge not intent on playing football the last time? 

You trying to wind me up?

Yes to both!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2007, 10:02:47 PM
Oh yeah duuuuhhh  :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on May 06, 2007, 10:25:39 PM
ha Pint you can take them.

No I would expect lessons to be learned but you wouldn't know, certainly the Bridge are not the type of team to go out with revenge on their minds.

We have Cross on Wed nigh, should be close.

Think 5FM covered the Dorsey match today?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2007, 11:41:37 PM
QuoteNo I would expect lessons to be learned but you wouldn't know, certainly the Bridge are not the type of team to go out with revenge on their minds.
The only lessons learned was that St pats are an awful pack of c***ts. 
It's ok to beat up players, cause a match to be blew up 4 minutes early and leave two players in hospital because the county board are filled with a pack of incompetent hateful pricks and you won't receive any punishment. 
You would think that St. Pat's would be on their best behaviour but that **** Casey is capable of anything.

As for our boys...well they're far from a dirty team (I know they're no angels either). They done the club proud that day in Cross but there is only so much provocation anyone can take.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on May 07, 2007, 11:14:36 AM
What happened in the Forkhill v Grange game? The paper seemed to suggest it was abandoned through injury.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on May 07, 2007, 02:26:06 PM

Clan Eirean v Annaghmore

Annaghmore fell to their third defeat of the season against Clan Eirean this past Sunday.  Despite playing against a stiff breeze in the first half it was the Lurgan men who rattled off the first 4 points of the game inside the opening ten minutes.  Annaghmore took some time to settle and it was the 12th minute before they registered their first score from a 45 metre free from Eoin McCormack.  This point seemed to spare Annaghmore into life and they followed their first score with a fine point from play from Gavin McGilly.

Clan Eirean responded to put three between the teams before two Shane Smyth frees reduced the difference to the minimum.  Starting to feel the pressure Clan Eirean upped their game and this coupled with a defensive mix up resulted in a 25th minute goal for the home team.  Eoin McCormack ensured that the arrears were cut to three points with a fine free just before half time.  Despite this it was Clan Eirean who went in the happier leading 1-5 to 0-5.

The second half started poorly for Annaghmore as Clan Eirean rattled off five unanswered points. Poor distribution and wasteful shooting were the story of the second half for Annaghmore and Eoin McCormack scored Annaghmore's only point of the half in the 52nd minute but again Clan Eirean responded to leave the final score 1-12 to 0-6.

Scorers

E McCormack 0-3 (3 frees) S Smyth 0-2 (2 frees) G McGilly 0-1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on May 07, 2007, 02:43:33 PM
What is the exact channel of 5fm?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on May 07, 2007, 02:47:14 PM
Quote from: Bainisteoir on May 07, 2007, 02:43:33 PM
What is the exact channel of 5fm?

100.5FM
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on May 07, 2007, 02:50:46 PM
is there any details of upcoming games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 07, 2007, 02:55:53 PM
All fixtures for all four divisions are posted on orchardcounty.com in the fixtures and results section of the forums.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on May 07, 2007, 03:11:47 PM
nah i meant games being on 5fm?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 07, 2007, 03:15:08 PM
ah right, I don't know then.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the real slim shady on May 07, 2007, 04:04:43 PM
Just like to say congratulations to Shane O'Neills who won their 2nd Consecutive county feile title beating Crossmaglen in yesterdays final 3-7 to 1-7.  Great result for a small rural club.  They now go on to represent the conuty in the All-Ireland feile in Sligo/Leitrim.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 09, 2007, 12:29:18 PM
Anyone got any predictions for this weekends matches?

Friday 11 May

ACL – Division I (7.30)
Whitecross v Mullaghbawn (Paul Boylan)          Mullaghbawn

Sunday 13 May

ACL – Division I (2.00)
Crossmaglen v Pearse Og (Mickey Leonard)     Crossmaglen
Culloville v Clan na Gael (Jim Burns)                Clan na Gael
Dromintee v Maghery (Henry McCloy)            Dromintee
Tir na nÓg v Harps (Dessie McDonnell)           Tir na nÓg..think home advantage should give us the edge
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 09, 2007, 12:54:07 PM

Who's henry McCloy?

We play the rangers tonight. winners will be top i think
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 09, 2007, 01:00:39 PM
How much longer can the county players play for their clubs? will this weekend be their last match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 09, 2007, 01:23:44 PM
Anyone bored tonight could do worse than head to Dromintee for ourselves v Cross, 7 15 throw in I think. If the weather stays dry it could be a good game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BRACKAVILLE07CHAMPS on May 09, 2007, 02:27:47 PM
HOWS GOOD OLD MAGHERY DOIN IN THE ARMAGH LEAGUE, LET ME KNOW :-)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 09, 2007, 02:41:09 PM
ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007
Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 3 3 0 0 6
Mullaghbawn 3 2 1 0 5
Clan na Gael 4 2 1 1 5
Dromintee 3 2 0 1 4
Maghery 2 1 1 0 3
Pearse Og 3 1 1 1 3
Tir na nÓg 3 1 1 1 3
Whitecross 3 1 0 2 2
Harps 4 0 1 3 1
Culloville 4 0 0 4 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 09, 2007, 02:42:31 PM
QuoteAnyone bored tonight could do worse than head to Dromintee for ourselves v Cross, 7 15 throw in I think. If the weather stays dry it could be a good game.

Would a Portadown man be welcomed at the match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 09, 2007, 02:44:27 PM
Haha of course, just put on the rawest accent going. Only messing, you heading down to it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BRACKAVILLE07CHAMPS on May 09, 2007, 02:50:15 PM
thanks tir na nOg
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 09, 2007, 03:13:10 PM
would def be tempted. It's bit of a jant from the north though!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on May 09, 2007, 10:00:30 PM
cross won by one point.  it was a total disgrace the refereeing at the cross game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 09, 2007, 11:20:05 PM

Very good game of football in dromintee this evening. low scoring with defences on top but there was some great ball played and with a big crowd roaring it was played with championship fervor. Dromintee lacked any scoring threat up front and this told despite dominating posession in the second half. john murtagh made the difference for cross and aor had a great game for the home side.

ref was grand. bad for both teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 10, 2007, 08:42:33 AM
do the clubs have there county contingent available this weekend?!?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 10, 2007, 09:26:57 AM
Quotedo the clubs have there county contingent available this weekend?!?!

no county players are not available this wkend...county trainin resumes on sat 12 may....

QuoteVery good game of football in dromintee this evening. low scoring with defences on top but there was some great ball played and with a big crowd roaring it was played with championship fervor. Dromintee lacked any scoring threat up front and this told despite dominating posession in the second half. john murtagh made the difference for cross and aor had a great game for the home side.

was at the game myself...didnt think it was that good of a game to be honest...poor conditions...thought paul kernan had a good game at full back..didnt give cathal orourke a kick....aidan orourke was by far dromintees best player..personally think he could still do a job for the county...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 10, 2007, 10:39:03 AM
Quote from the vultures out of Jungle book "ah now don't start that again" In relation to O' rourke being with county  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 10, 2007, 10:40:39 AM
Any county boys playing last night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on May 10, 2007, 10:41:49 AM
'Quote from the vultures out of Jungle book "ah now don't start that again" In relation to O' rourke being with county '

Too damn right - just like enormous Joe, i have had a bellyful of that one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 10, 2007, 10:52:37 AM
QuoteAny county boys playing last night?

no county boys playing think they wont be allowed to play club football until the first round of the senior championship now...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 10, 2007, 11:45:26 AM

Great contest last night in very bad conditions. the monsoon showers in the first half along with the gale meant cross had us hemmed in our own half without controlling the scoreboard. dromintee defended very well, as cross did in the second half but a 2-5 half time deficit looked like a good first half return in the conditions for dromintee, with shannon carrying the ball at cross effectively and donaldson & mckeown driving the rangers forward from half back.

The sun came out for the second half and the wind dropped a few bars but it made for a much better game of football. dromintee dominated possession as cross had in the first half but couldn't get the scores on the board either. both teams were chipping away at points from frees. It was the usual story for us in the last ten minutes unfortunately. aidan o'rourke put us level with 7/8 to go with a monster point which was dromintee's first poit from play and there only looked like one winner. we missed several scoring chances before the impressive john murtagh worked a shooting opportunity on the stroke of full time to win it.

Disappointing for dromintee to lose this one. we were missing 6 of our best players and although cross had something similar out they have abetter capacity to replace their guys. It was great watching the battle between two good young midfielders in o'neill and McKenna and it was a fascinating duel. donaldson and mckeown defended very well for cross and murtagh's ability to get a shot in was a big difference between the two. for dromintee, shannon had a great first half and (apologies lads) aidan o'rourke gave absolute exhibition of long passing in the second half.

you can keep your man u Vs Chelsea
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 10, 2007, 11:51:01 AM
You will find over the next month or so that Cross should take a defeat or two when the rest of the teams start to catch up with fitness and match practise. It should start against the Harps in the first round of the championship :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 10, 2007, 11:54:27 AM
QuoteYou will find over the next month or so that Cross should take a defeat or two when the rest of the teams start to catch up with fitness and match practise. It should start against the Harps in the first round of the championship

somehow i dont think so  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 10, 2007, 01:08:37 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on May 10, 2007, 11:54:27 AM
QuoteYou will find over the next month or so that Cross should take a defeat or two when the rest of the teams start to catch up with fitness and match practise. It should start against the Harps in the first round of the championship

somehow i dont think so  ;D


So What are you saying? that post belonged on the "Corney one for a Friday" Thread :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 10, 2007, 01:41:15 PM
So what do you all think would be the number of points which would keep you safe from relegation? 12-14?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on May 10, 2007, 02:17:33 PM
QuoteSo what do you all think would be the number of points which would keep you safe from relegation? 12-14?

More than Culloville will get, I think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 10, 2007, 02:44:28 PM
QuoteMore than Culloville will get, I think.

Two teams go down!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 10, 2007, 02:56:37 PM
Crossmaglen 0-08  Dromintee 0-07

Typical example of how much of an effect wetaher can have on our game. Played in front of a very large attendance the standard in the first half was terrible, good handling was non existent and chances were at a premium. Cross got the scoring underway and quickly added three more. However two Aidan O Rourke frees followed by a score from Cross left it 5-2 at the break with Dromintee due to have a good breeze at their backs.

Half time came and the bad weather went. The wind died and the sun came out and an excellent half followed. Both teams exchanged points leaving it 7-3 before Dromintee staged a comback. Two Cathal O Rourke frees, followed by a Pauric Higgins point and a super effort from Aidan O Rourke left it 7-7 with time near up. John Murtagh then held off three Dromintee players to win the game, Murtagh had been excellent throughout and was Cross' best player. Best for Dromintee were Shannon, Aidan O Rourke and Eddie Martin.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 10, 2007, 03:21:53 PM
I would say 10-12 points will be enough to keep any team up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ishotjr on May 10, 2007, 03:32:27 PM
I could be wrong in saying this but I think Silverbridge were relegated 2-3 years ago with 16 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 10, 2007, 03:42:03 PM
Clans were relegated with 15pts 3 years ago. Portadown and Culloville beware ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 10, 2007, 04:13:38 PM
QuotePortadown and Culloville beware

What about maghery? I think they are in bigger danger of going down than us, due to the fact that they have lost 2 of their best players!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 10, 2007, 04:22:05 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on May 10, 2007, 04:13:38 PM
QuotePortadown and Culloville beware

What about maghery? I think they are in bigger danger of going down than us, due to the fact that they have lost 2 of their best players!!
I said months ago culloville couldn't cope in division 1. I don't think they've a hope though this time last year they were struggling at the bottom of division 2.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on May 11, 2007, 11:11:44 AM
I see celtic are definitely signing mark mc allister.  It will be a massive loss for Tir na nOg
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 11, 2007, 11:20:49 AM
Where does he play for Tir na nOg?
What age is he?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 11, 2007, 11:30:59 AM
he's about 18 he used to come on as a sub on the minor team that won ulster...think he was injured thats why he didnt start...was corner forward on the minor team last year also..very talented lad...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on May 11, 2007, 01:24:20 PM
Quote from: full back on May 11, 2007, 11:20:49 AM
Where does he play for Tir na nOg?
What age is he?
he normally plays in the full forward line, very strong and can take a score. he scored 2 goals in the relegation play off with st micheals last year. If as expected the deal goes through with celtic  i'd like to wish him all the best. tir na nog away to maghery 2nite, always a good game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 11, 2007, 01:45:46 PM
fixtures for 2nite anyone?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: johnjoe on May 11, 2007, 01:50:10 PM
Charlie Stubbs, or Ivan from Aghagallon, hows she cuttin.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 11, 2007, 02:18:50 PM
negative jj
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 13, 2007, 04:08:44 PM
Cullyhanna beat the bridge 0-14 to 0-07

Understrength/experimental side out for us. We did well to keep in touch with Cullyhanna for most of the first half. Brenda Bellew was stretchered off (broken leg/ankle) at the end of the half, we seemed to lose focus and Cullyhanna scored 3 unanswered points in the last 2 minutes. 4 between the teams at half time.  Two quick points from Cullyhanna after half time meant it was effectively game over.  We'd a lot of possession and piled on the pressure but couldn't turn it into the scores or goal that we badly needed.   

Disappointing result but Bellew's injury (accidental clash with his own man) is the biggest blow.
Apart from that injury the game was really incident free.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on May 13, 2007, 04:13:10 PM
Tir na nOg 0:15 Harps 0:16 ;D
Cross 1:11 Ogs 2:12
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 13, 2007, 04:50:56 PM
Great result for St Pats today to keep our 100% record going. Double scores victory against Silverbridge and the result was thoroughly deserved. Thought we were the better outfit throughout and were on top in every sector. In fairness the game was tight enough in the first half and we were only a point ahead when the Bridge lad got injured just before half time. Cullyhanna kicked 3 points in the few minutes between the injury and half time. These were probably the decisive scores and Cullyhanna didn't let up in the second. Eugene kicked a few great points and was probably the best player on the pitch. Shane McKeever was very accurate with frees and got a nice point from play. Liam O'Hare done well and we were well on top at midfield and very solid in defence.

Silverbridge were quite poor to be honest, out thought, out battled and out played, they were completely reliant on Liam Campbell to create anything for them. Though no doubt they'll have improved by the time we meet them again. Great result though for St Pats and an excellent performance without the 3 county men.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on May 13, 2007, 05:24:07 PM
Hi, i am nither a bridge or st pats supporter, but was at the game, The bridge didnt seem on form at all, missing a lot of key men this year from injury and players leaving from last year. B Bellew did clash with his own player but i did hear that 2 cullyhanna players one a county player went up to Bellew when he was being carried off and one said " thats for last year" and this was said leaning over him and the other said "i hope its broke". This makes me sick, a good clean enough game of football to be brought down like this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on May 13, 2007, 05:26:20 PM
Well done to the Armagh hurlers, beaten by only 1 point in their first year in the Ulster championship.

There is a theory going about that Grimley was the source of Armagh tactics, however having looked at Cavan v Down I can't see the type of defensive values that were typical of Armagh in recent years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 13, 2007, 05:26:45 PM
Dromintee 0-11 Maghery 1-06

Ok match, referee brutal for both teams. Gaughran and A idan O Rourke best for ourselves.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on May 13, 2007, 05:37:55 PM
O'Hanlons beat Pheilim Bradys on Friday night by a point.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CelticWater on May 13, 2007, 05:38:11 PM
Culloville Drew with Clan NaGael
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: heganboy on May 13, 2007, 05:42:56 PM
ballyhegan beat tullysaran by a point
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on May 13, 2007, 05:55:48 PM
Quote from: dontcare on May 13, 2007, 05:24:07 PM
Hi, i am nither a bridge or st pats supporter, but was at the game, The bridge didnt seem on form at all, missing a lot of key men this year from injury and players leaving from last year. B Bellew did clash with his own player but i did hear that 2 cullyhanna players one a county player went up to Bellew when he was being carried off and one said " thats for last year" and this was said leaning over him and the other said "i hope its broke". This makes me sick, a good clean enough game of football to be brought down like this.

brendan bellew has a dislocated ankle and a fractured leg.
no doubt the cullyhanna boys will love this especially the two mckeevers who said those things. typical!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on May 13, 2007, 06:07:12 PM
only one of them was a mc keever the other was casey who was marking bellew(what a cruel thing to say to anyone in pain. ). as we speak Bellew is on his way to the royal to get it looked at as it possibly needs an opp. hope he ok soon, prob miss out on the rest of the years football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on May 13, 2007, 06:42:21 PM
Annaghmore beat the Tones 2-10 to 1-9 with both teams missing a penalty.  Tones got the final score of the game with a goal 5 minutes into injury time, great performance from Annaghmore, as always fuller report to follow this evening
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 13, 2007, 06:47:49 PM
Very easy for the faceless warriors to make these sort of allegations that cant be proven or disproven. All I'll say is that its a bit suspicious that someone who "isnt from either club" would be at a local derby. Why werent you at your own clubs match? And then use their first couple of posts to post soemthing like this which other people at the game have no knowledge of. I cant tell if the fella is lying or not but I'd have my doubts about taking his word as gospel.

And for your information inthemaking nobody in Cullyhanna is "loving it" as you put it. I hope the fella's alright, it was a bad accident and, as anyone at the match can confirm, our clubs official did their best to make sure he was taken care of properly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 13, 2007, 06:57:56 PM
Dont care
QuoteThe bridge didnt seem on form at all, missing a lot of key men this year from injury and players leaving from last year.
The Bridge are only missing two regulars from last year.  Nicolas Traynor in defence, a huge miss, he should have given it another year and Barry Campbell.  Barry usually played midfield/half foward, sometimes full forward role and due to the players that started to come in to the panel from the minor team he was losing his starting place.  Both are flying for the B team.

It's not that we're missing key players with injury (though we'll be missing bellew now), they're sitting on the bench. The new management seem to me more interested in building a team than going up this year (probably not a bad idea) and, I've said it before, we've never had as much talent in the place.  Trouble is they're only youngsters.  I think there's only 4 on the panel over the age of 24.  A majority of the panel are u21.  There are, I think, 7 minors from last year.  The telling tale is last year, we reached intermediate semi final, and should have won it, 7 of those who played against ballymacnab (5 starters) had made their championships debuts that year. 

It's very well talking about losing today's game but if you want to look into it...
Out of the 6 defenders and 2 mid fielders that started, only 3 were regulars last year.   
The half back line started as Brendan Bellew, Colm Hughes and Seamie Martin.  Brendan Bellew was the only regular from last year, when he went off he was replaced by Kieran Campbell.
For most of the game we'd a new half back line. 
Tacadoir talks about being on top in Midfield, our two mid fielders were Peter Byrne and Aidan Hearty. I think this was Peter's first start in maybe two years, he had been out with injury and didn't play at all last year.  Aidan played most of last year with the B team.  They're two young lads, around 20 and there are probably 3 players in front of them for the midfield roles.  Hamill, McAvoy and MacRory and Hogan cup winner Gerard McGarvey.  In full forward line we'd 18 year old Fergal Campbell, he's really only been starting this year and Cormac McAvoy was being tried at corner forward.  There is a lot of experimentation going on so don't be worrying about our results.  That said, similar experimental teams have beaten Tones, Keady and St. Peters.

Quotebrendan bellew has a dislocated ankle and a fractured leg.
Desperate sorry to hear that about Benny, he really established himself as being a vital player for us and is a massive loss.  Hope he's back soon.
Tacadoir there was definitley things said to benny as he was lying on the ground, I was over that side of the field.  Fergal Reel, our manager, seemed to react badly to it, so I don't think they were expressing well wishes.  Someone that was standing beside me did hear McKeever shouting "sc**bag" at him, though I didnt hear it.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 13, 2007, 07:06:44 PM
On the experimenting front, good to see Silverbridge giving the disadvantaged in society a chance by playing an albino in midfield for the second half.

I'm not going to get drawn into an arguement on who may or may not have said something, simply because its fairly pointless as no one here can proove it one way or the other.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 13, 2007, 08:35:33 PM
Crossmaglen 1:11  Pearse Ogs 2:12

Good win today.  Winning by 6 points at half time against a strong breeze.  Second half we had an awful wides and should of had the game killed off earlier. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 13, 2007, 09:19:37 PM
Don't know what sort of teams were out today, but I reckon the Ogs are the only team with a realistic chance of beating Cross in the championship.(and I dont want a row with Domintee wans).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on May 13, 2007, 09:27:55 PM
QuoteDon't know what sort of teams were out today, but I reckon the Ogs are the only team with a realistic chance of beating Cross in the championship.

Surely after watching them last week Benny, you have to be joking  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Syd on May 13, 2007, 09:48:52 PM
Is there no hurling people in Armagh? I cant believe there is no reference to Armagh's great performance against Derry today on this forum. I am an Antrim man but was cheering Armagh on today, would have been great to see them make a breakthrough today, with Down and Derry both seemingly regressing a breakthrough may not be too far away. In fairness Armagh had a decent support with them today and Paul Mc Cormack would get on the Antrim team without any bother.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 13, 2007, 10:07:25 PM
Hurling is too fast and skillful for the average Armagh brain to keep up with.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on May 13, 2007, 10:17:18 PM
Quote from: Syd on May 13, 2007, 09:48:52 PM
Is there no hurling people in Armagh? I cant believe there is no reference to Armagh's great performance against Derry today on this forum. I am an Antrim man but was cheering Armagh on today, would have been great to see them make a breakthrough today, with Down and Derry both seemingly regressing a breakthrough may not be too far away. In fairness Armagh had a decent support with them today and Paul Mc Cormack would get on the Antrim team without any bother.

If you look on page 99 there was a ref made to the Armagh Hurling, it commented on how well they did. Yes i agree Paul mc Cormack would get on any county Hurling team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Syd on May 13, 2007, 10:19:39 PM
Quote from: dontcare on May 13, 2007, 10:17:18 PM
Quote from: Syd on May 13, 2007, 09:48:52 PM
Is there no hurling people in Armagh? I cant believe there is no reference to Armagh's great performance against Derry today on this forum. I am an Antrim man but was cheering Armagh on today, would have been great to see them make a breakthrough today, with Down and Derry both seemingly regressing a breakthrough may not be too far away. In fairness Armagh had a decent support with them today and Paul Mc Cormack would get on the Antrim team without any bother.

If you look on page 99 there was a ref made to the Armagh Hurling, it commented on how well they did. Yes i agree Paul mc Cormack would get on any county Hurling team.

Maybe the famous Armagh glory hunting mentality will kick in if the hurlers make good progress.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on May 13, 2007, 10:26:19 PM
QuoteYes i agree Paul mc Cormack would get on any county Hurling team.

That's not what he said and it is stretching it a wee bit to say he'd get on any county hurling team! One of the standout players in Ulster though. Derry didn't really have a standout player today but Ruarii Convery did they heavy scoring. If Armagh keep at it they'll overtake Derry and Down and be challenging Antrim for Ulster honours within the next few years. The fact that the Derry and Down boards don't give a shit about hurling might have something to do with that!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on May 13, 2007, 10:30:53 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 13, 2007, 06:47:49 PM
Very easy for the faceless warriors to make these sort of allegations that cant be proven or disproven. All I'll say is that its a bit suspicious that someone who "isnt from either club" would be at a local derby. Why werent you at your own clubs match? And then use their first couple of posts to post soemthing like this which other people at the game have no knowledge of. I cant tell if the fella is lying or not but I'd have my doubts about taking his word as gospel.

And for your information inthemaking nobody in Cullyhanna is "loving it" as you put it. I hope the fella's alright, it was a bad accident and, as anyone at the match can confirm, our clubs official did their best to make sure he was taken care of properly.

There was a lot of other club supporters like myself at this local derby. Sorry if i offended you but i was just stating how i felt when i heard what was said to someone with such a horrific injury and in great pain, yes i agree, we are only going on hear say that i heard from a number of people as i was leaving the match. i hope this hear say is wrong and this was not said.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on May 13, 2007, 10:32:39 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on May 13, 2007, 10:26:19 PM
QuoteYes i agree Paul mc Cormack would get on any county Hurling team.

That's not what he said and it is stretching it a wee bit to say he'd get on any county hurling team! One of the standout players in Ulster though. Derry didn't really have a standout player today but Ruarii Convery did they heavy scoring. If Armagh keep at it they'll overtake Derry and Down and be challenging Antrim for Ulster honours within the next few years. The fact that the Derry and Down boards don't give a shit about hurling might have something to do with that!

Ok well he def would make the Antrim team but i have watched him play many times and i do feel he would push a place on any team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 13, 2007, 10:42:09 PM
f**k you benny, we'll take them!   :P

The OGs would need to have improved from last year, their display against Mullaghbawn in the championship was brutal. But all it takes is for a good team such as OGs, ourselves and Harps to have a good day where the scores are going over and the defenders are winning the 50/50s and Cross' grip may be loosened.

I expect it to be loosened this year, by who? I have no idea.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 13, 2007, 11:14:35 PM

Hard fought win for dromintee today. as usual we made life difficult for ourselves. Maghery scored a late goal to make for an exciting finish. decent win considering we were without probably 7 of our championship team and lost barry shannon at half time. i doubt we'll catch cross this year with news today that one of our best players is fecking off to the states on the beer before the champo. and people wonder why cross have a march on everyone... i doubt any of their men will opt for summer dossing rather than challenging for a championship medal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on May 13, 2007, 11:35:43 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 13, 2007, 11:14:35 PM

i doubt we'll catch cross this year with news today that one of our best players is fecking off to the states on the beer before the champo. and people wonder why cross have a march on everyone... i doubt any of their men will opt for summer dossing rather than challenging for a championship medal.

The harsh reality of modern life/society I'm afraid! Similar decisions are being made, in their dozens, around the County this Summer. None of these are taking place in Crossmaglen. Yet another symptom of the divide that has success breeding success on the one hand, and failure doing the same on the other. I could give you many similar stories that I know of, but why bother?   >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on May 14, 2007, 12:14:54 AM
Annaghmore v Wolfe Tonnes

Annaghmore collected their second win of the season with a fine display to see off fellow North Armagh rivals Wolfe Tonnes 2-10 to 1-9.  A blistering start for Annaghmore saw them take the lead through Matthew Willis inside the opening 30 seconds before Wolfe Tonnes had even touched the ball.  Eoin McCormack then quickly doubled the home side's lead with a fisted point from a tight angle after a fast counter attack.  The opening period got even better for Annaghmore as first a Shane Smyth free and then Eoin McCormack's second point increased their lead to 4 points after only 5 minutes.  This opening seemed to spark Wolfe Tonnes into life and they rattled off the next five scores in a purple patch that lasted until the 25 minute.  Eoin McCormack then restored parity for the home side with a 14 metre free.  On the stroke of half time McCormack notched his fourth point of the half to restore Annaghmore's lead before Michael McQuade scored from distance to give the home team a deserved two point lead, 0-7 to 0-5 at the interval.

The second half started in a similar vein to the first half, only this time it was Wolfe Tonnes who scored before their opponents got a touch of the ball.  This reduced the deficit to just one point but this was as close as Wolfe Tonnes would get in the second half. Shane Smyth made a telling intercept in the 34th minute and followed it with a superb fist pass to set Eoin McCormack clear of the Wolfe Tonnes defence which allowed the full forward to cheekily lob the keeper for the first goal of the game.  This seem to lift Annaghmore and when Shane Smyth added his second score of the game 3 minutes later it became clear that they were playing with a confidence that had been missing last week.   Although Wolfe Tonnes got the next score it was all Annaghmore at this stage and when second half substitute Martin Tennyson scored in the 45th minute to leave it 1-9 to 0-7 it seemed as though their could only be one winner. This outcome looked even more likely in the 48th minute when Annaghmore were awarded a penalty after Michael McNiece was fouled following a slick attacking move.  Football though has a knack of producing the unexpected and when Shane Smyth's penalty was well saved it became apparent that the result may not be quite that much of a foregone conclusion.  The save seem to lift Wolfe Tonnes who went on the attack but were met by some stubborn resistance in the form of the Annaghmore defence who were well lead by Patrick McQuade at full back.  Despite this Wolfe Tonnes were able to cut the deficit to just 3 points with 5 minutes to go.  Starting to feel the pressure it was Annaghmore who responded better through Shane Smyth's fifth goal of the season followed soon after by an Eoin McCormack point to leave the scores 2-10 to 0-9 as the match entered injury time.  Again Wolfe Tonnes threw everything into attack but they were unable to make the breakthrough until the 6th minute of injury time when a goal mouth scramble saw them forcing the ball to the back of the net.  This wasn't to be the end of the drama though as Wolfe Tonnes caught the resulting kick-out and sent the ball in long where a defensive mix up resulted in them being awarded a penalty.  To sum up Wolfe Tonnes day though the penalty was poorly struck and was well saved by Damian Willis just as the full time whistle blew.

This result sees Annaghmore on four points, and provides them with a good foundation on which to build this season.

Annaghmore Scorers

Eoin McCormack 1-5 (1 free), Shane Smyth 1-2 (1 free), Matthew Willis 0-1, Michael McQuade 0-1, Martin Tennyson 0-1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 14, 2007, 08:15:53 AM
Quote from: heganboy on May 13, 2007, 05:42:56 PM
ballyhegan beat tullysaran by a point

I thought it was 2 points HB?

If it was only one then feck what a winner from the stand-out player Paul Courtney. 45 meters from the sideline! Magic!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 14, 2007, 08:19:26 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 14, 2007, 08:15:53 AM
Quote from: heganboy on May 13, 2007, 05:42:56 PM
ballyhegan beat tullysaran by a point

I thought it was 2 points HB?

If it was only one then feck what a winner from the stand-out player Paul Courtney. 45 meters from the sideline! Magic!

I wasn't at it, but I heard that he scored with the last kick of the ball when the scores were level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 14, 2007, 08:28:14 AM
yep, tullysaran got the equaliser at the death, ref said there was 1 minute to go and ballyhegan went straight up the field from the kick out and won a free on the side line at the 45 and paul courtney just belted it over... monster of a point. In fairness Tullysaran had a number of easy chances in the second half that a more confident side would have had the game killed off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 14, 2007, 08:36:19 AM
Nice one then!  ;D

- Young Corrigan looked a decent prospect for for the 'saran. Just needs a bit more strength in his kicking leg. - dropped a few short!

Heard Armagh defeated Metah in a challenge game yesterday 2:12 - 1:12 - Stevie & Oisin with the goals.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 14, 2007, 09:19:34 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 14, 2007, 08:36:19 AM


- Young Corrigan looked a decent prospect for for the 'saran. Just needs a bit more strength in his kicking leg. - dropped a few short!



Goats, I presume you mean "KC" who probably played full forward yesterday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 14, 2007, 09:34:00 AM
Kevin Corrigan, lines out as part of a two man forward line... bit more confidence he needs rather than more power.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 14, 2007, 09:36:59 AM
QuoteKevin Corrigan, lines out as part of a two man forward line... bit more confidence he needs rather than more power.

seen this lad play in last years minor championship...has plenty of ability but lacks alot of confidence would totally agree with hank everlast
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on May 14, 2007, 09:47:23 AM
Quote from: Syd on May 13, 2007, 09:48:52 PM
Is there no hurling people in Armagh? I cant believe there is no reference to Armagh's great performance against Derry today on this forum. I am an Antrim man but was cheering Armagh on today, would have been great to see them make a breakthrough today, with Down and Derry both seemingly regressing a breakthrough may not be too far away. In fairness Armagh had a decent support with them today and Paul Mc Cormack would get on the Antrim team without any bother.

Declan Coulter would be a house hold name if he was born in any of the Southern Counties ( Cork Waterford etc)

One of the most naturally talented guys I have ever seen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on May 14, 2007, 09:58:40 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 13, 2007, 06:47:49 PM
Very easy for the faceless warriors to make these sort of allegations that cant be proven or disproven. All I'll say is that its a bit suspicious that someone who "isnt from either club" would be at a local derby. Why werent you at your own clubs match? And then use their first couple of posts to post soemthing like this which other people at the game have no knowledge of. I cant tell if the fella is lying or not but I'd have my doubts about taking his word as gospel.

And for your information inthemaking nobody in Cullyhanna is "loving it" as you put it. I hope the fella's alright, it was a bad accident and, as anyone at the match can confirm, our clubs official did their best to make sure he was taken care of properly.

i am a bridge man tacadoir and i am using words straight from the mouths of hte boys carrying the stretcher so as you can appreciate my sources are pretty reliable
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on May 14, 2007, 10:08:25 AM
did Cruppen beat st Michaels
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 14, 2007, 10:16:14 AM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 13 MAY 2007


Tuesday 8 May

ACL – Division IV
Phelim Brady's 1-1; Corrinshego 0-8


Wednesday 9 May

ACL – Division I
Dromintee 0-7; Crossmaglen 0-8


Friday 11 May

ACL – Division I
Whitecross 0-4; Mullaghbawn 0-8
Maghery 1-9; Tir na nÓg 1-8

ACL – Division III
An Port Mor 2-13; Sarsfields 1-12
Madden 1-11; Collegeland 1-6
Middletown v St Paul's (Off)
St Paul's 0-8; Lissummon 1-6

ACL – Division IV
O'Hanlon's 0-13; Phelim Brady's 1-7


Sunday 13 May

ACL – Division I
Crossmaglen 1-11; Pearse Og 2-12
Culloville 0-16; Clan na Gael 3-7
Dromintee 0-11; Maghery 1-6
Tir na nÓg 0-15 ; Harps 0-16

ACL – Division II
Annaghmore 2-10; Wolfe Tones 1-9
Ballymacnab v Granemore (Unfinished due to injury)
Carrickcruppen 0-15; St Michael's 0-14
Killeavey 2-13; Clann Eireann 2-9
St Patrick's 0-14; Silverbridge 0-7

ACL – Division III
Ballyhegan 0-10; Tullysaran 0-9
Clady 0-9; Crossmaglen II 0-9

ACL – Division IV
Derrynoose v Belleek (Off)
Dorsey Emmett's 0-10; Shane O'Neill's 0-10
Grange 2-11; O'Hanlon's 0-7
Mullaghbrack 0-6; Forkhill 0-7



ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 5 4 0 1 8
Mullaghbawn 4 3 1 0 7
Clan na Gael 5 2 2 1 6
Dromintee 5 3 0 2 6
Maghery 4 2 1 1 5
Pearse Og 4 2 1 1 5
Tir na nÓg 5 1 1 3 3
Harps 5 1 1 3 3
Whitecross 4 1 0 3 2
Culloville 5 0 1 4 1

Division II
P W D L Pts
Killeavey 5 5 0 0 10
St Patrick's 4 4 0 0 8
Carrickcruppen 4 3 0 1 6
Silverbridge 4 3 0 1 6
Clann Eireann 4 2 0 2 4
Annaghmore 5 2 0 3 4
St Michael's 5 2 0 3 4
Wolfe Tones 5 1 1 3 3
Granemore 3 1 0 3 2
Ballymacnab 4 1 0 3 2
Keady 4 0 1 3 1
St Peter's 3 0 0 3 0

Division III
P W D L Pts
Madden 5 5 0 0 10
An Port Mor 5 4 0 1 8
Ballyhegan 4 3 0 1 6
Lissummon 4 3 0 1 6
Collegeland 5 3 0 2 6
Sarsfields 5 3 0 2 6
St Paul's 5 2 1 2 5
Middletown 3 1 0 2 2
Clonmore 4 1 0 3 2
Tullysaran 4 0 1 3 1
Clady 5 0 1 4 1
Crossmaglen II 5 0 1 4 1

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Grange 3 3 0 0 6
Derrynoose 4 3 0 1 6
Eire Og 4 3 0 1 6
Dorsey Emmett's 5 2 2 1 6
Shane O'Neill's 3 2 1 0 5
Forkhill 4 2 0 2 4
Mullaghbrack 4 2 0 2 4
O'Hanlon's 5 1 1 3 3
Belleek 2 1 0 1 2
Corrinshego 5 1 0 4 2
Phelim Brady's 5 0 0 5 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TG4 on May 14, 2007, 10:50:34 AM
some surprising results yesterday especially in division one. ogs beating harps was a bit of a shock and certainly culloville drawing with clans was a big shok given both teams differing starts to the season. anybody enlighten us to what happened in these games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 14, 2007, 11:19:55 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on May 14, 2007, 09:19:34 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 14, 2007, 08:36:19 AM


- Young Corrigan looked a decent prospect for for the 'saran. Just needs a bit more strength in his kicking leg. - dropped a few short!



Goats, I presume you mean "KC" who probably played full forward yesterday?

Yup!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on May 14, 2007, 11:31:08 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 13, 2007, 06:57:56 PM
Dont care
QuoteThe bridge didnt seem on form at all, missing a lot of key men this year from injury and players leaving from last year.
The Bridge are only missing two regulars from last year.  Nicolas Traynor in defence, a huge miss, he should have given it another year and Barry Campbell.  Barry usually played midfield/half foward, sometimes full forward role and due to the players that started to come in to the panel from the minor team he was losing his starting place.  Both are flying for the B team.

It's not that we're missing key players with injury (though we'll be missing bellew now), they're sitting on the bench. The new management seem to me more interested in building a team than going up this year (probably not a bad idea) and, I've said it before, we've never had as much talent in the place.  Trouble is they're only youngsters.  I think there's only 4 on the panel over the age of 24.  A majority of the panel are u21.  There are, I think, 7 minors from last year.  The telling tale is last year, we reached intermediate semi final, and should have won it, 7 of those who played against ballymacnab (5 starters) had made their championships debuts that year. 

It's very well talking about losing today's game but if you want to look into it...
Out of the 6 defenders and 2 mid fielders that started, only 3 were regulars last year.   
The half back line started as Brendan Bellew, Colm Hughes and Seamie Martin.  Brendan Bellew was the only regular from last year, when he went off he was replaced by Kieran Campbell.
For most of the game we'd a new half back line. 
Tacadoir talks about being on top in Midfield, our two mid fielders were Peter Byrne and Aidan Hearty. I think this was Peter's first start in maybe two years, he had been out with injury and didn't play at all last year.  Aidan played most of last year with the B team.  They're two young lads, around 20 and there are probably 3 players in front of them for the midfield roles.  Hamill, McAvoy and MacRory and Hogan cup winner Gerard McGarvey.  In full forward line we'd 18 year old Fergal Campbell, he's really only been starting this year and Cormac McAvoy was being tried at corner forward.  There is a lot of experimentation going on so don't be worrying about our results.  That said, similar experimental teams have beaten Tones, Keady and St. Peters.

Quotebrendan bellew has a dislocated ankle and a fractured leg.
Desperate sorry to hear that about Benny, he really established himself as being a vital player for us and is a massive loss.  Hope he's back soon.
Tacadoir there was definitley things said to benny as he was lying on the ground, I was over that side of the field.  Fergal Reel, our manager, seemed to react badly to it, so I don't think they were expressing well wishes.  Someone that was standing beside me did hear McKeever shouting "sc**bag" at him, though I didnt hear it.   

Did Frank Smith and Colm Traynor not also leave from last years team, maybe im wrong and they still are on the panel but i heard yesterday at the game they had left also. you also said you have no players other than Bellew out with injury, i also heard young Reel in half back is out of action with injury, he was a major miss yesterday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 14, 2007, 11:43:09 AM
has anyone any report from the armagh v meath challenge game yesterday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue is the colour on May 14, 2007, 12:39:57 PM
Quote from: TG4 on May 14, 2007, 10:50:34 AM
some surprising results yesterday especially in division one. ogs beating harps was a bit of a shock and certainly culloville drawing with clans was a big shok given both teams differing starts to the season. anybody enlighten us to what happened in these games?
Culloville should have won by at least 3 points. 2penalties one for each team in the 1st half. Clans scored there's culloville's was saved. Clans where the better team in the 1st half up by 6 at half time 2-4 ta 0-4. Culloville produced a great 2nd half performance really beat the clans in every position however some poor shooting and a really slack 3rd goal where we just fell asleep let us down. Hopefully we can build on this
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on May 14, 2007, 12:41:30 PM
Who missed the penalty for Culloville? Is championship next weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue is the colour on May 14, 2007, 12:45:02 PM
Johnny McGeeney decent save
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue is the colour on May 14, 2007, 12:45:37 PM
Ya d championship is on nxt sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 14, 2007, 01:28:09 PM
Culloville's penalty was shite, the keeper saved it with his legs "straight down the middle". The Clans won the first half with ease and Culloville destroyed the Clans in the second half, so i suppose a draw was fair enough (even though the ref managed to get 5 mins injury time from somewhere)

I told you's lads last week the Cross would start to loose a game or two once the rest of the top teams get into their stride ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on May 14, 2007, 03:59:47 PM
Quote from: inthemaking on May 14, 2007, 09:58:40 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 13, 2007, 06:47:49 PM
Very easy for the faceless warriors to make these sort of allegations that cant be proven or disproven. All I'll say is that its a bit suspicious that someone who "isnt from either club" would be at a local derby. Why werent you at your own clubs match? And then use their first couple of posts to post soemthing like this which other people at the game have no knowledge of. I cant tell if the fella is lying or not but I'd have my doubts about taking his word as gospel.

And for your information inthemaking nobody in Cullyhanna is "loving it" as you put it. I hope the fella's alright, it was a bad accident and, as anyone at the match can confirm, our clubs official did their best to make sure he was taken care of properly.

Lets face Tacadoir, we know it to be fact for two reasons, 1. The boys carrying the stretcher heard it being said, and 2. We know the knackers who said it and it would be typical of them.  One of them bit one of our players last year in the championship melee.  Its not like their record is impecable.  And as for McKeever shouting about scumbags, hes some role model, a bigger sc**bag never pulled a jersey over his back.  The Cullyhanna officials were fairly sharp with the stretcher right enough, but what else could they do.  Your manager is another p***k of the highest level.  He was still trying to wind up our players doing the warm down after the match.  Probably so as he could get hitting someone from behind again!

You're right though about the 3 quick points before half time, they decided the match.  Although I felt that if we got the first score in the second half we were right back, Cullyhanna got two and it was game over.  I wouldn't necessarily say that Cullyhanna were better all over the field, we couldn't put our possession into scores, Cullyhanna couldn't miss.  As a result a gap widens and the game turns into a training session. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 14, 2007, 04:08:14 PM
heard st pats played the better football and deserved the victory...did liam ohare play well?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jinxy on May 14, 2007, 04:11:51 PM
Lads, was anyone here at the Meath/Armagh challenge match in Senechalstown yesterday? If so I'd like to know what ye thought of both teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on May 14, 2007, 05:33:42 PM
Quote(even though the ref managed to get 5 mins injury time from somewhere)
Similiar to another game this weekend, where the ref played over 70 mins altogether.  With only a few  injurys.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 14, 2007, 05:59:55 PM
QuoteDid Frank Smith and Colm Traynor not also leave from last years team, maybe im wrong and they still are on the panel but i heard yesterday at the game they had left also. you also said you have no players other than Bellew out with injury, i also heard young Reel in half back is out of action with injury, he was a major miss yesterday.
Frank and Colm left alright but they weren't regulars,  I was saying there was only really two regulars missing from last year. 
I know Niall Reel had to go off in the Keady game but I wasn't sure if that was the reason he was out yesterday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 15, 2007, 08:41:38 AM
for anyone interested the new armagh jersey will be launched on friday 25th may heres a sneaky preview http://www.orchardcounty.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2296&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=10
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on May 15, 2007, 08:49:12 AM
Any gossip from last night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 15, 2007, 08:51:31 AM
i wasnt at it just readin up on it on orchardcounty nothin much has changed with the jersey still similar to the last one...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 15, 2007, 10:37:59 AM
What was last night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on May 15, 2007, 10:42:16 AM
friends of Armagh gathering took place last nite at the Garrick bar in belfast where the new jersey was unveiled
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on May 15, 2007, 11:28:47 AM
Who or what are Friends of Armagh? Why was I not invited?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 15, 2007, 11:33:53 AM
cos ur not a friend..lol! the friends of armagh is a fundraising commitee where business donate money to the armagh training fund..tyrone have a similar thing....
joe kernan and diamuird mardens where there to launch the new jersey...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on May 15, 2007, 11:34:39 AM
Quote from: Orior on May 15, 2007, 11:28:47 AM
Who or what are Friends of Armagh? Why was I not invited?

Tis too expensive for your taste Orior
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armamike on May 15, 2007, 11:45:17 AM
Quotewhere business donate money

it's not just business who donate money to friends of armagh, anyone can get involved.  I joined up a couple of months ago -still waiting for my jacket though!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 15, 2007, 11:57:53 AM
wel i have a jacket but im not a member...lol! think there is new jackets comin out! how much does it cost? is it something like £25 a month?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 15, 2007, 12:00:03 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on May 15, 2007, 11:57:53 AM
wel i have a jacket but im not a member...lol! think there is new jackets comin out! how much does it cost? is it something like £25 a month?

Jaysus, hope you get more than a jacket for £25 a month
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on May 15, 2007, 12:14:15 PM
 donation forfriends of armagh can be anthying can b up to £500 a month
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 15, 2007, 12:15:56 PM

ye'd wanna be some mate
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 15, 2007, 12:16:41 PM
its expensive...do u get tickets for games included?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on May 15, 2007, 12:19:10 PM
Ard Mhacha - i meant to ask you before, did anything ever come of the Mayo player joining your club?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on May 15, 2007, 12:24:55 PM
Ard mhacha you are very fond of these lol's!  U in good form today or what? Do u think u are on bebo or something? LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 15, 2007, 12:26:46 PM
no word of anything regarding billy joe padden joinin as yet...

re: tackle im in great form today...will be on bebo soon though...ha
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on May 15, 2007, 12:31:45 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on May 15, 2007, 12:26:46 PM
no word of anything regarding billy joe padden joinin as yet...

re: tackle im in great form today...will be on bebo soon though...ha
Billy joe and cruppin is pie in the sky stuff.  I know of the circumstances with his girlfriend and that but i wouldnt be holdin my breath on it!  U not working? or do u work u slob? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on May 15, 2007, 02:10:13 PM
Quote from: tackle on May 15, 2007, 12:31:45 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on May 15, 2007, 12:26:46 PM
no word of anything regarding billy joe padden joinin as yet...

re: tackle im in great form today...will be on bebo soon though...ha
Billy joe and cruppin is pie in the sky stuff.  I know of the circumstances with his girlfriend and that but i wouldnt be holdin my breath on it!  U not working? or do u work u slob? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It will have to be Lissummon then :-(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 15, 2007, 02:25:46 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 15, 2007, 02:10:13 PM
Quote from: tackle on May 15, 2007, 12:31:45 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on May 15, 2007, 12:26:46 PM
no word of anything regarding billy joe padden joinin as yet...

re: tackle im in great form today...will be on bebo soon though...ha
Billy joe and cruppin is pie in the sky stuff.  I know of the circumstances with his girlfriend and that but i wouldnt be holdin my breath on it!  U not working? or do u work u slob? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It will have to be Lissummon then :-(

??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 15, 2007, 02:30:29 PM
QuoteBilly joe and cruppin is pie in the sky stuff.  I know of the circumstances with his girlfriend and that but i wouldnt be holdin my breath on it!  U not working? or do u work u slob? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

im in work now..ur found of ur lol urself....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on May 15, 2007, 02:58:00 PM
Work?  U couldn spell it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 15, 2007, 03:03:52 PM
ur obviously doing a whole pile of work urself then... ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on May 15, 2007, 03:08:47 PM
Can yous two not leave your chatting to bebo.  Any word on how scarce the tickets will be next week?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 15, 2007, 03:23:09 PM
id say they'll be very scarce rumour has it each club will only receive about 80 tickets...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 15, 2007, 03:44:14 PM
Will the new jerseys be on sale before the championship match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 15, 2007, 03:46:12 PM
new jersey will be on sale next friday 25th may
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 16, 2007, 11:47:38 AM
I see that young lad Mc Allister turned Celtic down as he couldnt agree personal terms
Jaysus, unless it was p1ss poor, you would be hard pressed to say NO to going professional
Are there 2 other firm offers from clubs in England? Any idea who they are?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 16, 2007, 12:29:16 PM
QuoteI see that young lad Mc Allister turned Celtic down as he couldnt agree personal terms
Jaysus, unless it was p1ss poor, you would be hard pressed to say NO to going professional
Are there 2 other firm offers from clubs in England? Any idea who they are?

I think he just realised that he would have a better chance of breaking into the first team of one of the other teams that are interested in him. If he was to sign for celtic there were always going to be 4 or 5 forwards ahead of him. According to the sun today man city, cardiff and leeds are after him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SuperHans on May 16, 2007, 01:39:10 PM
is that two good league wins for Pearse Og recently then, is your man kieran Hughes still playin for them? wat position?
anybody know
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 16, 2007, 02:01:25 PM
yip hes still playn for them at centre field! goin well too.
Title: Athletic Grounds
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 16, 2007, 04:11:38 PM
This may be old news, but I think it is the first time that I have come across the specifics of the proposed redevelopment of the Athletic Grounds:

Construction work is expected to commence in Early 2007 on the upgrading of an existing stadium at Athletic Grounds, Dalton Road, Armagh, Co. Armagh. The redevelopment will take place in three phases. Phase 1 of the development will involve the construction of  a 1,000 to 1,500 seated uncovered stand on the Ceannaras side and terracing to the Dromarg side of the grounds being extended around behind both goal areas. Phase 2 of the development will involve the installation of floodlighting to game standard at a cost in the region  £650,000, which should get underway by the end of next year. Planning permission is currently being sought for the floodlights. The final phase which will cost in the region of £1.5 Million will include a fully covered stand with seating capacity for 4,5000, served by electronic turnstiles, CCTV, a full PA system and a first aid room. Tenders for a Main Building Contractor are currently being assessed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 16, 2007, 04:14:33 PM
the contract for doing the work in the athletic grounds was tendered out to some crowd from hilltown think they are called curran contracts!

work was to start this week although i havent been over that way to see if it has started or not!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on May 16, 2007, 04:25:03 PM
Diesel, why do you end every sentence with an exclamation mark!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 16, 2007, 04:28:46 PM
very observant of you to notice! haha! dont know why probably just out of habit

sorry if it bothers you will try not to in future ok

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on May 16, 2007, 08:41:19 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on May 16, 2007, 04:14:33 PM
work was to start this week although i havent been over that way to see if it has started or not!

It has started alright - the heavy plant/machinery is in place - if I see anything worthwhile re progress, I'll get the camera and take a couple of snaps. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 16, 2007, 11:58:54 PM
good idea rufus! a few snaps every now and again would be well especially if you could get them onto this site.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lawnseed 2 on May 17, 2007, 10:06:14 AM
total madness trying to make a field out of the pathetic grounds it should have been sold off and we should have moved to a new complex befitting a county carrying our sort of support its only going to be a matter of time before the residents in that area kick up a la croke park residents etc and we will have all sorts of restrictions and be forced to hand over tickets blah blah to keep them quite a bad move me thinks 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lawnseed 2 on May 17, 2007, 10:30:12 AM
raffo to the rescue!! just heard  last friday saw the armagh manager come to the aid of his poyntzpass club as they were about to succomb to perenial losers phelim bradys. raffo seeing his club in trouble quickly togged out for the last ten minutes and used his craft to win a couple of frees which he kicked over the bar much to the relief of o'hanlons management. watch out for more heroics in ballybofey maybe hughie morgan will sponsor him a cape ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 17, 2007, 10:43:57 AM
Quote from: lawnseed 2 on May 17, 2007, 10:30:12 AM
...... maybe hughie morgan will sponsor him a cape ;)

If the sales of Hughie's own brand of milk go well he will be able to sponsor more than a cape
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on May 17, 2007, 01:36:45 PM
See on Orchard County pics of the new Armagh Jersey,

have to say it doesnt look to bad

www.orchardcounty.com
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on May 17, 2007, 03:02:39 PM
Anyone know if the schools are off today?  Its just i  havent seen ard mhacha abu about to day! !!  lol!!  He has normally posted about 50 about this time every day!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 17, 2007, 03:04:42 PM
hi im still here...lol!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2007, 05:19:11 PM
f**king pm him if you want to know where he is!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on May 17, 2007, 06:16:13 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2007, 05:19:11 PM
f**king pm him if you want to know where he is!
None of your business POG!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2007, 06:22:52 PM
Quote from: tackle on May 17, 2007, 06:16:13 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2007, 05:19:11 PM
f**king pm him if you want to know where he is!
None of your business POG!
It is if it's on a public forum!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 17, 2007, 06:54:52 PM

POG is right. if you've something to add re the discussion about armagh football and hurling then use this thread. if not f**k off back to bebo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on May 17, 2007, 07:35:32 PM
Quote from: Uladh on May 17, 2007, 06:54:52 PM

POG is right. if you've something to add re the discussion about armagh football and hurling then use this thread. if not f**k off back to bebo

Eloquently and infrormatively put Uladh!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on May 17, 2007, 08:04:40 PM
Less of the cursing uladh.  Young people online so we dont want to set a bad example do we?    Im not on bebo so dunno where ure comin from.  Ok ill talk bout football. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on May 18, 2007, 02:00:41 PM
Tigger was onto me there saying he's doing live commentary on Sunday for the Tones/Killeavey game at 2 o'clock. 100.5 FM he says.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 18, 2007, 02:09:12 PM
Thought it was Mullaghbawn v Dromintee game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on May 18, 2007, 02:10:31 PM
It was supposed to be but they moved that match back to 4 o'clock which then clashes with the Down/Cavan replay.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 18, 2007, 02:13:38 PM
Cheers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on May 18, 2007, 11:23:41 PM
Any word on tonights matches?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on May 18, 2007, 11:37:18 PM
An Port Mor beat Annaghmore.  Will get a full report up later
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 19, 2007, 11:32:51 AM
Eire Og beat Tullysaran by 2 in the JFC
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 19, 2007, 02:10:37 PM
Pearse Ogs beat Mullaghbawn last night by 3 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 20, 2007, 11:22:40 AM
John Donaldson won Crossmaglen's "Player of the Year" award at the Rangers Dinner Dance on Friday night.
Present senior manager, Donal Murtagh, lifted the B "Player of the Year" award.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on May 20, 2007, 05:51:47 PM
Result:

Cross 2-11 Maghery 2-09
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 20, 2007, 05:56:19 PM
heard the bridge where 9up at halftime and lost to the peters.could have seen them struggling to win a game all year they are useless imo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: miller_modiglliani on May 20, 2007, 06:42:01 PM
is that you ivan????? a thirds player here
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 20, 2007, 07:54:40 PM
Killeavey beat Wolfe Tones in the League and Mullabrack (Harps 2nd's) defeated O'Hanlon's (Poyntzpass) in the Championship.
Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Guillem2 on May 20, 2007, 07:58:34 PM
Are Mullabrack Armagh Harps 2nds? I didn't know that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 20, 2007, 07:59:29 PM
is not
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 20, 2007, 08:00:49 PM
There are more former Harps men playing for Mullabrack than there are from the Mullabrack/Markethill area.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lawnseed 2 on May 20, 2007, 08:25:25 PM
any word of super-sub RAFFO did he make an appearance for o hanlons or was getting beat by mullabrack (harps retirement home) in the championship not as embarrasing as getting beat by the bradys
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on May 20, 2007, 09:52:55 PM
glad to hear john donaldson and donal murtagh got the 2 players of the year, very well deserved,. #
heard it was a great night and a late one?????????????????????
Pitty about the bridge result today, couldnt make the game, what happened them, up by nine points ten minutes to go, think if they had of got past today, which they should have, next round they would have had 2 injered players back and would have been big contesters for the championship,
These things happen.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 21, 2007, 07:49:30 AM
Anyone know the final score in the Cullaville and Keady Championship game which took place last night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 21, 2007, 08:13:25 AM
Just as a matter of interest who are the former Harps' players on the books of Mullabrack?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue is the colour on May 21, 2007, 08:42:54 AM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on May 21, 2007, 07:49:30 AM
Anyone know the final score in the Cullaville and Keady Championship game which took place last night?

It was 2-11 to 1-04
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on May 21, 2007, 08:46:04 AM
Who won?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on May 21, 2007, 10:03:58 AM
cullaville
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on May 21, 2007, 10:06:59 AM
Culloville!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 21, 2007, 10:51:48 AM
Pints where are you, i want to hear what went wrong. seriously if St Peters can beat you's there must have been somthing wrong. WTF
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 21, 2007, 10:55:07 AM
shock that the bridge were beat by a team who will no doubt spend their season trying to avoid relegation. hopefully the silverbridge's season will be adversely affected by such a demoralising defeat. any word on what the hell is happening to the tones? conceding 5 goals is a joke for any team, well maybe not div 4, or is this where the wolfe tones future lies??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 21, 2007, 11:59:07 AM
tones have a very young team.the whole half back line where teenagers,two corner backs 18 and 21 four of the forwards under 22 also.oncethey concede a goal the games over.aparantly the game was level before half time kileavey got a goal,caught the next kickout twice and scored 2 more goals
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on May 21, 2007, 12:14:08 PM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS & TABLES FOR W/E SUNDAY 20 MAY 2007


Friday 18 May

Intermediate Championship
Lissummon 1-8; Madden 0-16
Annaghmore 0-7; An Port Mor 1-8

Junior Championship
Eire Og 0-13; Tullysaran 1-8
Clady v Corrinshego (Off)

ACL – Division I
Mullaghbawn 1-8; Pearse Og 2-8


Saturday 19 May

Intermediate Championship
St Paul's 0-4; Whitecross 1-15

Junior Championship
Mullaghbrack 4-10; O'Hanlon's 0-10


Sunday 20 May

Intermediate Championship
Clonmore v Crossmaglen II (Off)
St Peter's 1-14; Silverbridge 2-10
Culloville 2-11; Keady 1-4

ACL – Division I
Maghery 2-9; Crossmaglen 2-13
Mullaghbawn v Dromintee (Off)
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg (Off)

ACL – Division II
Clann Eireann 0-14; Ballymacnab 1-15
Granemore 0-11; Carrickcruppen 3-8
Wolfe Tones 0-12; Killeavey 5-10

ACL – Division III
Collegeland 3-12; Clady 0-8
Sarsfields 3-9; Ballyhegan 1-6

ACL – Division IV
Belleek 3-16; Phelim Brady's 1-0
Corrinshego 0-2; Grange 3-14
O'Hanlon's v Mullaghbrack (Off)




ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 6 5 0 1 10
Mullaghbawn 5 3 1 1 7
Pearse Og 5 3 1 1 7
Clan na Gael 5 2 2 1 6
Dromintee 5 3 0 2 6
Maghery 5 2 1 2 5
Harps 5 1 1 3 3
Tir na nÓg 5 1 1 3 3
Whitecross 4 1 0 3 2
Culloville 5 0 1 4 1

Division II
P W D L Pts
Killeavey 6 6 0 0 12
St Patrick's 4 4 0 0 8
Carrickcruppen 5 4 0 1 8
Silverbridge 4 3 0 1 6
Annaghmore 5 2 0 3 4
Clann Eireann 5 2 0 3 4
St Michael's 5 2 0 3 4
Ballymacnab 5 2 0 3 4
Wolfe Tones 6 1 1 4 3
Granemore 4 1 0 4 2
Keady 4 0 1 3 1
St Peter's 3 0 0 3 0

Division III
P W D L Pts
Madden 5 5 0 0 10
An Port Mor 5 4 0 1 8
Collegeland 6 4 0 2 8
Sarsfields 6 4 0 2 8
Lissummon 4 3 0 1 6
Ballyhegan 5 3 0 2 6
St Paul's 5 2 1 2 5
Middletown 3 1 0 2 2
Clonmore 4 1 0 3 2
Tullysaran 4 0 1 3 1
Crossmaglen II 5 0 1 4 1
Clady 6 0 1 5 1

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Grange 4 4 0 0 8
Derrynoose 4 3 0 1 6
Eire Og 4 3 0 1 6
Dorsey Emmett's 5 2 2 1 6
Shane O'Neill's 3 2 1 0 5
Belleek 3 2 0 1 4
Forkhill 4 2 0 2 4
Mullaghbrack 4 2 0 2 4
O'Hanlon's 5 1 1 3 3
Corrinshego 6 1 0 5 2
Phelim Brady's 6 0 0 6 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 21, 2007, 12:16:36 PM
well at least by the end of the year the tones goalkeeper should have a very good kick-out then.   ;D

expect 2 from the top four at the minute to go up, most likely killeavy and cruppen. any team that get beat by st. peters dont deserve to be in contention for division 1 status!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ishotjr on May 21, 2007, 12:18:59 PM
Who was the referee in the silverbridge v st peters game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 21, 2007, 12:39:51 PM
does it matter? they r all useless!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 21, 2007, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 21, 2007, 10:55:07 AM
shock that the bridge were beat by a team who will no doubt spend their season trying to avoid relegation. hopefully the silverbridge's season will be adversely affected by such a demoralising defeat. any word on what the hell is happening to the tones? conceding 5 goals is a joke for any team, well maybe not div 4, or is this where the wolfe tones future lies??

Because the manager is a tube. He had never managed a team before not even underage and he gets the Senior post. WTF
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on May 21, 2007, 01:18:17 PM
Have to say when the Tones played us I thought with the exception of a few players they were poor all over the field and were second to nearly every ball.  Although we only won by a 4 points Tones got a goal and point deep in injury time and an 8 point win would have been a fairer result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 21, 2007, 01:19:54 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 21, 2007, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 21, 2007, 10:55:07 AM
shock that the bridge were beat by a team who will no doubt spend their season trying to avoid relegation. hopefully the silverbridge's season will be adversely affected by such a demoralising defeat. any word on what the hell is happening to the tones? conceding 5 goals is a joke for any team, well maybe not div 4, or is this where the wolfe tones future lies??

Because the manager is a tube. He had never managed a team before not even underage and he gets the Senior post. WTF

you sure its not that the team is just brutal??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 21, 2007, 01:24:17 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 21, 2007, 01:19:54 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 21, 2007, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 21, 2007, 10:55:07 AM
shock that the bridge were beat by a team who will no doubt spend their season trying to avoid relegation. hopefully the silverbridge's season will be adversely affected by such a demoralising defeat. any word on what the hell is happening to the tones? conceding 5 goals is a joke for any team, well maybe not div 4, or is this where the wolfe tones future lies??

Because the manager is a tube. He had never managed a team before not even underage and he gets the Senior post. WTF

you sure its not that the team is just brutal??

Well that too, but who in their right mind would give a senior job to someone with no management experience. I know it dosen't help when you have a group of half wits for footballers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 21, 2007, 01:42:26 PM
Quote from: High Catch on May 21, 2007, 12:14:08 PM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS & TABLES FOR W/E SUNDAY 20 MAY 2007

Junior Championship
Eire Og 0-13; Tullysaran 1-8
Clady v Corrinshego (Off)
ACL – Division I
Mullaghbawn 1-8; Pearse Og 2-8


Saturday 19 May

Intermediate Championship
St Paul's 0-4; Whitecross 1-15

Junior Championship
Mullaghbrack 4-10; O'Hanlon's 0-10


Sunday 20 May

Intermediate Championship
Clonmore v Crossmaglen II (Off)

obviously the clady game was off because Philly Loughran is on county duty next week and the cross IIs was off becasue the same applies to Stephen Kernan?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 21, 2007, 01:50:43 PM
I've heard the Tones 2nd oldest player is 23 at the minute. There must have been some clear out over the last couple of years!!?

Ballyhegan aren't going well (without the county men ) either so, the C'ship game in Portadown in a couple of weeks should be interesting!  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 21, 2007, 02:31:45 PM
QuoteBallyhegan aren't going well (without the county men ) either so, the C'ship game in Portadown in a couple of weeks should be interesting! 

Which game is in Portadown? Any of you lot going to watch the Tir na nÓg V Clan na Gael match on sat 2nd June in Maghery?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 21, 2007, 02:39:57 PM
Ballyhegan v Wolf Tones - Intermediate C'ship 1st round - is in Portydown. Not sure of the date though!  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on May 21, 2007, 02:43:14 PM
Are all the championship games definately going to be played in 2 weeks? I presume if its a draw in Donegal then they will be postponed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 21, 2007, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: High Catch on May 21, 2007, 02:43:14 PM
Are all the championship games definately going to be played in 2 weeks? I presume if its a draw in Donegal then they will be postponed.

Correct pal, draw means postponed championship match's. Goats why role the eyes, that will be an interesting game. Local derby
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 21, 2007, 04:26:40 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 21, 2007, 03:47:23 PM
Quote from: High Catch on May 21, 2007, 02:43:14 PM
Are all the championship games definately going to be played in 2 weeks? I presume if its a draw in Donegal then they will be postponed.

Correct pal, draw means postponed championship match's. Goats why role the eyes, that will be an interesting game. Local derby

I'd hardly call it a local derby!!! - Just both teams are going bad! I'll be at it anyways! UP THE DAVITTS!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 22, 2007, 08:30:57 AM
Thursday 24 May

ACL – Division I (7.30)
Whitecross v Harps (Stephen McKinley)


Friday 25 May

Junior Championship (7.30)
Grange v Phelim Brady's (Jim Lynch) at Madden (7.30)

ACL – Division I (7.30)
Crossmaglen v Tir na nÓg (Damian McConville)
Culloville v Pearse Og (Oliver Hearty)
Dromintee v Clan na Gael (Stephen Murray)
Maghery v Mullaghbawn (Kevin Gallogly)

ACL – Division II (7.30)
Annaghmore v Keady (Noel Martin)
Ballymacnab v Wolfe Tones (Tony Watters)
Carrickcruppen v Clann Eireann (Paul Rath)
Killeavey v Silverbridge (Brendan Gorman)
St Michael's v Granemore (Paul Seacroft)
St Peter's v St Patrick's (Ronan Quigley)

ACL – Division III (7.30)
Crossmaglen II v Clonmore (Jim Burns)
Lissummon v An Port Mor (Paul Boylan)
Tullysaran v Madden (Dessie McDonnell)

ACL – Division IV (7.30)
Eire Og v Dorsey Emmett's (Jim Slevin)
Shane O'Neill's v Derrynoose (Off)


Saturday 26 May

Junior Championship (7.30)
Collegeland v Forkhill (Mickey Leonard) at Mullaghbrack
Belleek v Derrynoose (Kevin McNeice) at Granemore (6.00)
Middletown v Shane O'Neill's (Damian McConville) at Granemore


Monday 28 May

Minor Championship – Preliminary Round (7.30)
St Peter's v Tir na nÓg (Malachy McNicholl) at St Peter's Park
(Extra time, if required)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 23, 2007, 12:01:07 AM

Is POG missing in action?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 23, 2007, 09:32:25 AM
Quote from: Uladh on May 23, 2007, 12:01:07 AM

Is POG missing in action?

Def, when the Bridge get beat he goes into hibernation for a while till they beat some other team :D ;) (or he could be away on holidays)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 23, 2007, 11:22:41 AM
Predictions for fridays Div 1 games

Tir na nÓg to beat Crossmaglen by 5  ;D ;)
Pearse Ogs to beat Culloville
Dromintee V Clans Draw
Mullaghbawn to beat maghery
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 23, 2007, 01:26:23 PM
lot of tones players have retired or fell out with whoever the manager is.id say 10 or so of the starting 15 are 23 or under.lack of leadership,physical presecence big problem.speaking to a player the other night said he could see them not wining game reest of the year.2 years ago beating cross 1st gamw with most of county men and dromintee 1st day last year seems a million miles away
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 23, 2007, 01:27:48 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on May 23, 2007, 11:22:41 AM
Predictions for fridays Div 1 games

Tir na nÓg to beat Crossmaglen by 5  ;D ;)
Pearse Ogs to beat Culloville
Dromintee V Clans Draw
Mullaghbawn to beat maghery

Tir na nOg you are quite clearly on drugs or you accidently put Tir na nOg to win by 5 instead of Crossmaglen to win by 5.

Ogs will beat Culloville
Dromintee will beat Clans
and  the bawn will beat the bog men
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 23, 2007, 01:38:43 PM
clans will beat dromintee, no doubt
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurlingon
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 23, 2007, 01:46:25 PM
no internet access lads. will try and text few comments later. i've never run away either. up the bridge!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 23, 2007, 01:48:27 PM
QuoteTir na nOg you are quite clearly on drugs or you accidently put Tir na nOg to win by 5 instead of Crossmaglen to win by 5.

Wait and see..and no im not on drugs :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 23, 2007, 01:56:27 PM
tir na nog gona do the same as they did against dromintee and start a riot??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 23, 2007, 09:39:27 PM
well on the bridge..what can you say..we put on fantastic display in the first half and led by 9 at half time. st peters put it up to us in the second half but despite only scoring 1 point we were still on top for most of it. st peters got physical for last 15 minutes or so and our boys got no protection of ref, we got noting whole game, and started to get very frustrated. d mac - mobile wont let me spell his name but you can work out who i'm on about- sent off for late shoulder with 12 minutes to go. ref made an awful mistake and judging by his face when the so called injured player jumped to his feet he knew it! d was after getting thump to the face 30 seconds before that and nothing given! anyway st peters started kicking 30 and 40 yard points out of no where! in minutes we went from 7 point lead to 2 points and in third minute of injury time they got the goal. second year in a row we're put out by injury time goals, no team deserves that. when u lead by 7 points with 12 minutes to go u cant blame anything, not team selection, injured players, sending offs, nothing! just wasn't meant to be, i hope i'm around when we get all the luck owed to us. good luck to st peters in the next round.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 24, 2007, 08:42:51 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 23, 2007, 09:39:27 PM
well on the bridge..what can you say..we put on fantastic display in the first half and led by 9 at half time. st peters put it up to us in the second half but despite only scoring 1 point we were still on top for most of it. st peters got physical for last 15 minutes or so and our boys got no protection of ref, we got noting whole game, and started to get very frustrated. d mac - mobile wont let me spell his name but you can work out who i'm on about- sent off for late shoulder with 12 minutes to go. ref made an awful mistake and judging by his face when the so called injured player jumped to his feet he knew it! d was after getting thump to the face 30 seconds before that and nothing given! anyway st peters started kicking 30 and 40 yard points out of no where! in minutes we went from 7 point lead to 2 points and in third minute of injury time they got the goal. second year in a row we're put out by injury time goals, no team deserves that. when u lead by 7 points with 12 minutes to go u cant blame anything, not team selection, injured players, sending offs, nothing! just wasn't meant to be, i hope i'm around when we get all the luck owed to us. good luck to st peters in the next round.

Fair play to ya Pint. But if i was your manager next year i think i'd start to toughen you lads up a bit, you's seem to get roughed up a lot but you have to dish out as well. The refs won't always look after you's so you somtimes have to throw a bit of dirt out yourselves. Know what i mean, you get nothing for being nice.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 24, 2007, 10:13:52 AM
Quotetir na nog gona do the same as they did against dromintee and start a riot??

Considering Tir na nÓg didn't start anything against dromintee I highly doubt it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 24, 2007, 10:20:05 AM
Any Mid 'B' Championship results from last night?

Harps bt Keady 1-7 to 6
Hear Madden beat the Ogs

Others?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 24, 2007, 10:44:47 AM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on May 24, 2007, 10:13:52 AM
Quotetir na nog gona do the same as they did against dromintee and start a riot??

Considering Tir na nÓg didn't start anything against dromintee I highly doubt it

Tir na nOg did your B-team beat St Peters last night and if you don't know could you find out for me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 24, 2007, 11:29:34 AM
Ballyhegan v An Port Mor is tonight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on May 24, 2007, 11:36:10 AM

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Tir na nOg did your B-team beat St Peters last night and if you don't know could you find out for me.
[/quote]

Yes, they beat St Peters by 2 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 24, 2007, 12:04:29 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on May 24, 2007, 11:36:10 AM


Tir na nOg did your B-team beat St Peters last night and if you don't know could you find out for me.
[/quote]

Yes, they beat St Peters by 2 points.
[/quote]

WHAT SORT OF TEAM HAVE YOU'S GOT? AND WILL YOU'S LOOSE MANY PLAYERS AFTER THE SENIOR SHAMPIONSHIP. SOMEONE TOLD ME PORTADOWN WERE HOT FAVOURITES FOR THE B-CHAMPIONSHIP
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maximus Marillius on May 24, 2007, 12:07:17 PM
Really surprised to see Stephen Kernan making CHF on the starting championship 15. I think he is a poor player. Alot to prove
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 24, 2007, 12:30:15 PM
QuoteWHAT SORT OF TEAM HAVE YOU'S GOT? AND WILL YOU'S LOOSE MANY PLAYERS AFTER THE SENIOR SHAMPIONSHIP. SOMEONE TOLD ME PORTADOWN WERE HOT FAVOURITES FOR THE B-CHAMPIONSHIP

Numbers wise we have a small enough team as a good few players played in the senior championship last year. Our B team would beat most from the North armagh. Its a good enough team with good players in the defence and forward line so they should have a good chance of winning the championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 24, 2007, 01:08:15 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on May 24, 2007, 12:30:15 PM
QuoteWHAT SORT OF TEAM HAVE YOU'S GOT? AND WILL YOU'S LOOSE MANY PLAYERS AFTER THE SENIOR SHAMPIONSHIP. SOMEONE TOLD ME PORTADOWN WERE HOT FAVOURITES FOR THE B-CHAMPIONSHIP

Numbers wise we have a small enough team as a good few players played in the senior championship last year. Our B team would beat most from the North armagh. Its a good enough team with good players in the defence and forward line so they should have a good chance of winning the championship.

So who is you next round against and i take it you's should win that one. Hopefully we should meet you's in the county final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 24, 2007, 01:20:46 PM
clann eireann v carrickcruppen game tomorrow night is off! both teams play each other next week in the senior championship so agreed to put it off!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 24, 2007, 01:48:38 PM
QuoteSo who is you next round against and i take it you's should win that one. Hopefully we should meet you's in the county final

Not 100% sure who we play in the next round, whats your club illdecide?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 24, 2007, 03:04:29 PM
Madden 'b' team beat the og development squad last nigth in madden in the champsionship. couldnt make the match, work comminments and I think they beat them by a point. madden seniors away to tullysaron tomorrow night.

Ard Mhacha Abu
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 24, 2007, 03:33:45 PM
So whos buying the new jersey tomorrow?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 24, 2007, 03:37:40 PM
Have two booked, me and the child will be kitted out for sunday!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 24, 2007, 03:53:16 PM
I take it their going to be available from all O'Neills stores and not just a select few?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on May 24, 2007, 09:28:29 PM
heard whitecross beat harps (with collie holmes) by 7 points...big shock there...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 24, 2007, 09:45:56 PM
travelled over to whitecross tonight to watch this game. from the start whitecross stamped their authority on the game with their midfield dominating!

harps where very flat footed and seemed sluggish! whitecross had 6 points on the board before harps scored. harps missed a penalty that was woefully taken and had another point one the board before half-time.

whitecross 0-6 harps 0-2

second half started in similiar fashion to the first with whitecross playing attractive football! harps boys looked as if they didnt give a shite about the game. their was a little incident involving the referee and the harps manager (i think) over the referees decision to give an up-ball whenever the whitecross linesman refused to award harps a line ball when it was clearly visible from the other side of the pitch that a whitecross man had kicked the ball over the line. after a few minutes of arguing the referee then escorted the harps official off the pitch - play resumed and the harps found to hard to get any decisions after this!

both teams exchanged scores and at the end whitecross won with about 6 points to spare!

harps are clearly a team badly out of form, whitecross to their credit played some very attractive football and had been totally deservant of the two points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 24, 2007, 10:09:57 PM
What's happening to the Harps?  Surely they would have expected to beat Whitecross.
They must have had a number of players missing.
Who played well for Harps?
If they cannot beat the likes of Whitecross how are they going to do against Crossmaglen in the championship in a weeks time?
If their manager was sent off then will John Toner take over the reins.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on May 24, 2007, 10:36:33 PM
Harps dont do well on the field when Harp does well in the bar.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 25, 2007, 09:39:28 AM
Ballyhegan defeated An Port Mor last night by about 7 points (Not sure of the final score!) in the B C'ship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seeheartalk on May 25, 2007, 12:07:34 PM
How can Harps (without Vernon, Toal and Donnelly) getting beat by Whitecross be considered a shock?
Player by player 10 out of 15 players with St Killian's are better than what Harps have to offer. Anway, Harps didn't look interested last night and Whitecross played their first good game since the second half against Crossmaglen at the start of the season. When Harps have the trio back, of course it is a different story.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 25, 2007, 12:13:17 PM
Just wondering when Toal & Donnelly are back this season?
Vernon wouldnt have been playing last night because of the county but would the other 2 have made any difference?
Where are the Harps posters this morning?
Is Toal badly injured or is he still holding out for a transfer?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 25, 2007, 12:21:28 PM
toal is back in training.... and he wudnt have taken part due to the county commitments. i think jp is out for the season.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 25, 2007, 12:57:27 PM
...but then again would JP be available, if fit?  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 25, 2007, 01:07:32 PM
Going by various accounts, they wouldnt have much different to Harps' performance last night or indeed over the last few weeks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 25, 2007, 01:40:05 PM
what is the current situation with j.p donnelly?
is he back with the harps after his transfer to pearse ogs was refused?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on May 25, 2007, 01:42:19 PM
QuoteIs Toal badly injured or is he still holding out for a transfer?

Toal has never requested a transfer  ???

Can't see JP ever kicking a ball for the Harps again.  Then again if he doesn't kick a ball for the Harps, I can't see him kicking a ball for any other club.  If his transfer request was rejected this year by the county board, why would they grant it next year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 25, 2007, 01:44:29 PM
You will be lucky to get an answer diesel sm
The Harps lads are very coy when talking about that subject
Even moresay today I would say after a defeat-after the Ogs beat them the silence was deafening ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on May 25, 2007, 01:55:15 PM
Quotewhat is the current situation with j.p donnelly?
is he back with the harps after his transfer to pearse ogs was refused?

NO

QuoteYou will be lucky to get an answer diesel sm
The Harps lads are very coy when talking about that subject
Even moresay today I would say after a defeat-after the Ogs beat them the silence was deafening

I thought my previous post answered the question :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 25, 2007, 02:03:09 PM
Sorry Louis - missed your post
What club is Donnelly with then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on May 25, 2007, 02:06:58 PM
what is the actual story with Toal and the harps? There is a lot of sketchy talk on here but why doesn't someone just come and say so?

Also the same goes for the rumours flying around about a fall out between Joe and Geezer.  What happened?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 25, 2007, 02:11:08 PM
Toal & Harps?
Donnelly & Harps?
Did they request transfers & if so were they granted or refused & on what grounds?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on May 25, 2007, 02:37:36 PM
Toal & Harps - never requested a transfer
Donnelly & Harps - requested transfer to Ogs with was rejected because his reasons for the move were not good enough
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 25, 2007, 02:39:14 PM
Cheers Louis
If Donnelly probably wont play for the Harps again will he still be listed as a Harps player as a matter of interest?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on May 25, 2007, 02:52:08 PM
I think he'd still be registered as a Harps player.  Heard a rumour he tried to buck the system by going to county board with letter of resignation from the gaa, then was going to join Ogs next year.  County board refused to accept his letter.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 25, 2007, 02:57:21 PM
Must be serious
Was it because of an injury he got at soccer?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on May 25, 2007, 03:30:24 PM
That was one of the reasons. He was made look silly when the Harps produced evidence that they paid his operation even though he was injured playing soccer.  This injury happened about 4 years ago, it was strange he only got upset about it January this year ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 25, 2007, 10:05:07 PM
The bridge ended killeavy's unbeaten run in division 2  tonight beating them by 4 points.
I couldn't make make but heard Liam Campbell scored two goals.  It goes without saying an excellent result after last week and a vital one for the rest of our year.  Great credit goes to the lads for picking themselves up.


i'lldecide
QuoteFair play to ya Pint. But if i was your manager next year i think i'd start to toughen you lads up a bit, you's seem to get roughed up a lot but you have to dish out as well. The refs won't always look after you's so you somtimes have to throw a bit of dirt out yourselves. Know what i mean, you get nothing for being nice.
D McCann dished it out and he got a straight red card,  that's what you get for dishing it out.  How a ref can watch someone get a slap  in the face and do nothing and send him off 30 seconds later for a late shoulder is beyond me!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 26, 2007, 02:22:37 PM
POG is it true Conlon did not play, why so?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2007, 02:29:17 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 26, 2007, 02:22:37 PM
POG is it true Conlon did not play, why so?
He didnt play yesterday and I heard he wasn't there.   
I've no idea what his problem is this week  ::)  (Nor do I care)

He didn't play against St. Peter's either, he was on the bench.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 26, 2007, 09:17:50 PM
Madden beat tullysaron by 4pts in sherry fields. with killeavy beat, does that leave madden the only unbeaten team in the league?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 26, 2007, 09:18:28 PM
St Patrick's beat St Peter's
Culloville had a good win over Pearse Ogs
Harps lost to Whitecross.
Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2007, 09:21:26 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on May 26, 2007, 09:17:50 PM
Madden beat tullysaron by 4pts in sherry fields. with killeavy beat, does that leave madden the only unbeaten team in the league?
Cullyhanna are unbeaten.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 26, 2007, 09:21:45 PM
QuoteMadden beat tullysaron by 4pts in sherry fields. with killeavy beat, does that leave madden the only unbeaten team in the league?

St Patrick's and Grange are also undefeated.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 26, 2007, 09:24:17 PM
i think newtown beat granemor by a point.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on May 26, 2007, 10:02:22 PM
Keady beat Annaghmore 2-11 to 1-9 was a closer game than the score line suggests.  Both teams were poor but Paul McCormack looked a class apart when he came on at half time.  Good to see John Toal back playing football even if he didnt have a great game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 28, 2007, 11:08:00 AM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 27 MAY 2007


Thursday 24 May

ACL – Division I
Whitecross 0-11; Harps 0-4


Friday 25 May

Junior Championship
Grange 4-13; Phelim Brady's 1-2

ACL – Division I
Crossmaglen 2-12; Tir na nÓg 1-6
Culloville 1-12; Pearse Og 1-5
Dromintee v Clan na Gael (Off)
Maghery v Mullaghbawn (Off)

ACL – Division II
Annaghmore 1-9; Keady 2-11
Ballymacnab 0-12; Wolfe Tones 0-9
Carrickcruppen v Clann Eireann (Off)
Killeavey 0-8; Silverbridge 2-6
St Michael's 1-11; Granemore 0-13
St Peter's 1-6; St Patrick's 2-16

ACL – Division III
Crossmaglen II v Clonmore (Off)
Lissummon 0-8; An Port Mor 0-10
Tullysaran 1-10; Madden 0-16

ACL – Division IV
Eire Og 1-8; Dorsey Emmett's 0-7
Shane O'Neill's v Derrynoose (Off)


Saturday 26 May

Junior Championship
Collegeland 1-9; Forkhill 0-5
Belleek 1-8; Derrynoose 1-9
Middletown 0-14; Shane O'Neill's 0-7



ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 7 6 0 1 12
Mullaghbawn 5 3 1 1 7
Pearse Og 6 3 1 2 7
Clan na Gael 5 2 2 1 6
Dromintee 5 3 0 2 6
Maghery 5 2 1 2 5
Whitecross 5 2 0 3 4
Culloville 6 1 1 4 3
Harps 6 1 1 4 3
Tir na nÓg 6 1 1 4 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
Killeavey 7 6 0 1 12
St Patrick's 5 5 0 0 10
Carrickcruppen 5 4 0 1 8
Silverbridge 5 4 0 1 8
Ballymacnab 6 3 0 3 6
St Michael's 6 3 0 3 6
Annaghmore 6 2 0 4 4
Clann Eireann 5 2 0 3 4
Keady 5 1 1 3 3
Wolfe Tones 7 1 1 5 3
Granemore 5 1 0 4 2
St Peter's 4 0 0 4 0

Division III
P W D L Pts
Madden 6 6 0 0 12
An Port Mor 6 5 0 1 10
Collegeland 6 4 0 2 8
Sarsfields 6 4 0 2 8
Ballyhegan 5 3 0 2 6
Lissummon 5 3 0 2 6
St Paul's 5 2 1 2 5
Middletown 3 1 0 2 2
Clonmore 4 1 0 3 2
Crossmaglen II 5 0 1 4 1
Tullysaran 5 0 1 4 1
Clady 6 0 1 5 1

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Grange 4 4 0 0 8
Eire Og 5 4 0 1 8
Derrynoose 4 3 0 1 6
Dorsey Emmett's 6 2 2 2 6
Shane O'Neill's 3 2 1 0 5
Belleek 3 2 0 1 4
Forkhill 4 2 0 2 4
Mullaghbrack 4 2 0 2 4
O'Hanlon's 5 1 1 3 3
Corrinshego 6 1 0 5 2
Phelim Brady's 6 0 0 6 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 28, 2007, 08:24:19 PM
Yes!  Heard Conlon was on the bench against St Peters - how did game go?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 28, 2007, 09:19:14 PM
what do you mean how did the game go? you trying to wind me up or suggest we lost cos he wasn't playing?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 28, 2007, 09:39:51 PM
No! Just thought Conlon was on u21 panel. Maybe he wuz injured
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 28, 2007, 09:47:06 PM
he was on county under 21 panel. he wasn't injured. he wasn't picked. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 28, 2007, 09:53:24 PM
why?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 28, 2007, 10:14:40 PM
i'm guessin it was felt that the boys that trained deserved their spots before him. sorry for taking u up wrong with your first post btw i didnt mean to snap the head of u.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 28, 2007, 10:26:28 PM
Madden minor defeated ballyhegan in the Mick Higgins Cup(mid-armagh championship) tonight by 8pts. Tullysaron also defeated middletown as far as i know.

does anyone know the results of the other two games, ogs vs clady(i think) and harps vs keady.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 28, 2007, 10:32:21 PM
No probs. Just so many stories and so few facts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 28, 2007, 10:43:54 PM
why what stories are there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 29, 2007, 09:19:09 AM
Pearse Ogs reintstated in the B Mid Championship after lodging an objection against Madden.

Semi draw
Harps v Ogs
Middletown v Ballyhegan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 29, 2007, 11:36:54 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 29, 2007, 09:19:09 AM
Pearse Ogs reintstated in the B Mid Championship after lodging an objection against Madden.

for the love of god. anything short of the referee's family being held captive until the game was over with a guaranteed madden win should be laughed at.


anyone got the championship fixtures for this weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 29, 2007, 11:46:14 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 3 JUNE 2007


Thursday 31 May

Intermediate Football Championship (8.00)
Clonmore v Crossmaglen II (Kevin Gallogly) at Ballymacnab

Junior Football Championship (8.00)
Clady v Corrinshego (Patrick Duffy) at Belleek


Friday 1 June

Senior Football Championship (8.00)
Dromintee v St Michael's (Seamus O'Neill) at Crossmaglen

ACL – Division III (8.00)
Clonmore v Middletown (Off)
Lissummon v Tullysaran (Damian McConville)


Saturday 2 June

Senior Football Championship
Carrickcruppen v Clann Eireannn (Noel Martin) at Pearse Og Park (5.30)
Clan na Gael v Tir na nÓg (Ronan Quigley) at Maghery (8.00)

Intermediate Football Championship (8.00)
Ballyhegan v Wolfe Tones (Oliver Hearty) at St Peter's Park


Sunday 3 June

Senior Football Championship
Maghery v Mullaghbawn (Jim Slevin) at Abbey Park (3.45)
Granemore v Killeavey (Seamus O'Neill) at Whitecross (5.30)
Crossmaglen v Harps (Eamon Nugent) at Keady (8.00)

Intermediate Football Championship (2.00)
St Patrick's v Sarsfields (Gerard Devlin) at Abbey Park

ACL – Division II (2.00)
St Peter's v Keady (Tony O'Hare)
Silverbridge v Ballymacnab (Paul Seacroft)

ACL – Division III (2.00)
Clady v Tullysaran (Off)
Clonmore v Collegeland (Seamus Falloon)
Middletown v Crossmaglen II (Vincent O'Neill)
St Paul's v An Port Mor (Sean McClelland)

ACL – Division IV (2.00)
Derrynoose v Eire Og (Malachy McNicholl)
Forkhill v O'Hanlon's (Rory Robinson)
Grange v Belleek (Frank McDonald)
Mullaghbrack v Corrinshego (Jim Lynch)
Phelim Brady's v Shane O'Neill's (Joe Murtagh)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 29, 2007, 01:59:27 PM
Quotefor the love of god. anything short of the referee's family being held captive until the game was over with a guaranteed madden win should be laughed at.

what you mean by that uladh? yea madden bs are out of the championship. the ogs yapped abot a player who started game that played 5minutes of championship football last year. worst of all, he didnt even play well. disappointing for the team as this was a great win for them, any country team beating the towns team is great, with the pick they have.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 29, 2007, 02:04:04 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on May 29, 2007, 01:59:27 PM
Quotefor the love of god. anything short of the referee's family being held captive until the game was over with a guaranteed madden win should be laughed at.

what you mean by that uladh? yea madden bs are out of the championship. the ogs yapped abot a player who started game that played 5minutes of championship football last year. worst of all, he didnt even play well. disappointing for the team as this was a great win for them, any country team beating the towns team is great, with the pick they have.

Regardless if he played 30 seconds of a game and didnt touch the ball, rules are rules.
You do have to feel for the other players but at the end of the day it is the player himself that is at fault along with the management
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 29, 2007, 02:10:04 PM
ano agree fully full back. just a pity. some craic if the ogs go on and win it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 29, 2007, 02:56:34 PM
Any of you lot going to watch any of the championship matches this weekend? Maghery V Mullaghbawn would be a good game!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 29, 2007, 03:04:34 PM
I will take in a couple obviously ourselves and Newtown and probably Cross and the Harps. I had high hopes for the Harps to cause an upset but that is draining away by the second, any chance?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on May 29, 2007, 03:21:04 PM
Dromintee v St Michael's - Dromintee

Carrickcruppen v Clann Eireann- Draw

Clan na Gael v Tir na nÓg- Draw

Maghery v Mullaghbawn - Draw

Granemore v Killeavey- Killeavey

Crossmaglen v Harps- Cross comfortably although i hope not

I think the game of the round will be eithier Tir na nog and clans or maghery and mullaghbawn. Tir na nog and clans will go to the wire and heard that both teams have eveything geared towards this match and the fact its a derby adds a wee bit of spice. Maghery and mullaghbawn are very similar quick teams so it should make for a good affair. Cross should win through although i hope not  ;) but its hard to see anyone stoping them!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 29, 2007, 03:22:01 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 25, 2007, 10:05:07 PM
The bridge ended killeavy's unbeaten run in division 2  tonight beating them by 4 points.
I couldn't make make but heard Liam Campbell scored two goals.  It goes without saying an excellent result after last week and a vital one for the rest of our year.  Great credit goes to the lads for picking themselves up.


i'lldecide
QuoteFair play to ya Pint. But if i was your manager next year i think i'd start to toughen you lads up a bit, you's seem to get roughed up a lot but you have to dish out as well. The refs won't always look after you's so you somtimes have to throw a bit of dirt out yourselves. Know what i mean, you get nothing for being nice.
D McCann dished it out and he got a straight red card,  that's what you get for dishing it out.  How a ref can watch someone get a slap  in the face and do nothing and send him off 30 seconds later for a late shoulder is beyond me!

Pints,

I didn't mean it like that, i just meant if some of the opposition are roughing you up and your not getting the protection of the ref. then somtimes you have to give a message back to that person/people that you will not stand for any of that shit so "take some of your own medicine"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 29, 2007, 03:44:37 PM
Madden deserved the win the other night, played well throughput the match and have a few young boys coming through

in saying that they did break the rules. Both teams knew the player was ineligible before the game though nothing was said unitl the match was over.

I thought the player in question had a very good game and without his presence in midfield i think the ogs would have won it  :P

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 29, 2007, 03:59:40 PM
I have no sympathy for Madden whatsoever.  B football is a bit of joke, Keady played against us with at least 2 (maybe more) ringers in the championship, Middletown arrived for a league game with god knows how many of their first 15 and no team sheet, Clady arrived with 13 players for a league game and then didn't field in the championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 29, 2007, 04:07:39 PM
What is Ronan Quigley like will he let things go or will he blow up everything? Hes doing our game this weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 29, 2007, 04:28:06 PM
did tir na nog only score 3 points last night in the minor championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 30, 2007, 08:56:31 AM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on May 29, 2007, 04:07:39 PM
What is Ronan Quigley like will he let things go or will he blow up everything? Hes doing our game this weekend.

What sort of refeering would suit your Tir na nOg team this weekend, would you's prefer the rough stuff and the ref let most of it go or would it suit you's if the ref blew up for every we petty foul???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 30, 2007, 10:16:14 AM
what are other posters predictions for this weekend's senior football championship mine are as follows:-

dromintee v st.michaels - dromintee
carrickcruppen v clann eireann - carrickcruppen
clan na gael v tir na nog - clan na gael
crossmaglen v armagh harps - crossmaglen
killeavey v granemore - killeavey
maghery v mullaghbawn - mullaghbawn

the fixtures committee are a shower of cute hoors with the venues, not one of the games this weekend is a double header meaning that anyone wishing to go to the three games on sunday will have to fork out 3 times at the different venues to gain admission!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 30, 2007, 10:56:49 AM

Championship fixtures in Armagh constantly sacrafice atmosphere and a sense of the championship occasion for gate receipts. I've gone regularly to derry for their great "championship weekends" with double headers providing great entertainment. on the same theme i wouldn't play smaller games at cross at all.  the newtown dromintee game on friday will be a tight physical affair. coming from two small areas, there'll not be a massive support with either team and it'll be lost in cross.thats a game that should have been fixed for the bridge cruppen or cullyhanna but sure you have to be nice to the right people.

For whoever thinks the maghery / mullaghbawn game will be entertaining, i'm sorry to disappoint you in advance. both teams will have 13 men behind the ball and it'll end up 9-8 or similar.

For what its worth:

dromintee v st.michaels - dromintee just
carrickcruppen v clann eireann - clann eireann
clan na gael v tir na nog - clan na gael
crossmaglen v armagh harps - crossmaglen
killeavey v granemore - killeavey just
maghery v mullaghbawn - draw

Ronan Quigley is refereeing a senior championship match?  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 30, 2007, 11:24:20 AM
As far as I know there is a double header at Abbey Park on Sunday. I think Cullyhanna & Sarsfield are playing at 2pm.

dromintee v st.michaels - dromintee
carrickcruppen v clann eireann - carrickcruppen
clan na gael v tir na nog - clan na gael
crossmaglen v armagh harps - crossmaglen
killeavey v granemore - killeavey
maghery v mullaghbawn - maghery
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 30, 2007, 11:54:49 AM
Quotedid tir na nog only score 3 points last night in the minor championship?

Im not sure how our minor team done on monday but I couldn't see them only scoring 3 points

QuoteWhat sort of refeering would suit your Tir na nOg team this weekend, would you's prefer the rough stuff and the ref let most of it go or would it suit you's if the ref blew up for every we petty foul???

I suppose a ref who isnt going to blow up for every niggly foul would suit both teams, if the ref does blow up every niggly foul then it will ruin the game. What sort of ref is he??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on May 30, 2007, 12:15:25 PM
Ronan Quigley refereed the Tir na nOg Granemore match last year. He was piss poor then and will be again on Saturday night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 30, 2007, 12:28:25 PM

There is now a prayer which can be recited to ward off the prospect of Quigley being appointed to referee your matches. i don't know the full text but it's along the line sof "lord save us and protect us from the idiosyncrasies and outright foolishness of the devil's official Ronan Quigley..."
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 30, 2007, 12:35:24 PM
why is it always the same grounds that get the championship games. cruppen cross ballymacnab harps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 30, 2007, 12:41:17 PM

They allow the county to use their grounds to train on...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 30, 2007, 12:44:35 PM
you will find that cruppen dont have any championship matches!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on May 30, 2007, 12:45:53 PM
Quote from: Uladh on May 30, 2007, 12:28:25 PM

There is now a prayer which can be recited to ward off the prospect of Quigley being appointed to referee your matches. i don't know the full text but it's along the line sof "lord save us and protect us from the idiosyncrasies and outright foolishness of the devil's official Ronan Quigley..."

Is he that bad? Who will he suit on sat nite?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 30, 2007, 12:46:39 PM
pints you should have a word with michael maillie he usually sorts out the venues for the championship games and i do recall over the past few years silverbridge hosting championship matches!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 30, 2007, 12:49:58 PM
quigley will suit tir na nog as he tends to have a habit of sending off players that would have been involved in current or ex-county panels.

he straight red-carded john toal recently for what im led to believe was a fairly innocent enough challenge.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on May 30, 2007, 12:52:46 PM
Jesus thats a bit harsh, are you basing your theory on just john toal or have you other instances?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 30, 2007, 12:56:31 PM
he referreed three of our club games last year and red-carded 3 players for challenges that had been nothing more than yellow cards! two of those players has represented armagh at various levels.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 30, 2007, 12:56:56 PM
i don't think the bridge had one last year. we've only had a few. the bridge played a championship game in cruppen last year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on May 30, 2007, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on May 30, 2007, 12:56:31 PM
he referreed three of our club games last year and red-carded 3 players for challenges that had been nothing more than yellow cards! two of those players has represented armagh at various levels.

No point in bumpy and marsden turning up then lol!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 30, 2007, 01:03:18 PM
pint over the past few years two intermediate finals had been held in silverbridge.

i was referring to this year that no games are in cruppen, well for the first round anyhow!

they are more hassle than enough and more than often you are lucky to receive the 10% of the gate receipts that you are supposed to get off the county board.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 30, 2007, 01:09:11 PM
If i'm not mistaken did Cross play Mullabawn in the bridge last year. because i was at it, but now i'm doubting myself and wondering was it the year before last? (You know the game wher Mr McEntee thought he was on a mission to put as many lads in Daisy Hill as possible :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 30, 2007, 01:39:03 PM
If Quigley is renowned for sending off players then bumpy would need to watch himself, awful fond of throwing a dig when he thinks no-one is watching..usually ref's don't do anything about it though because he was an ex-county player!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 30, 2007, 02:35:57 PM
no doubt tirnanog will exploit this if this the case well known 4 dirty tactics
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on May 30, 2007, 02:56:42 PM
Quote from: Uladh on May 30, 2007, 12:41:17 PM

They allow the county to use their grounds to train on...

don't think the harps have even been asked for this to happen ???
I think the reason for the grounds being chosen for championship games is that they are roughly half way between the two teams, and would suit the (anticapated) crowds attending.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 30, 2007, 03:32:55 PM
Quoteno doubt tirnanog will exploit this if this the case well known 4 dirty tactics

Tir na nÓg are well known for dirty tactics? how did you come to this conclusion?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 30, 2007, 03:34:43 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on May 30, 2007, 03:32:55 PM
Quoteno doubt tirnanog will exploit this if this the case well known 4 dirty tactics

Tir na nÓg are well known for dirty tactics? how did you come to this conclusion?

Cue a splurge of Dromintee posters
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 30, 2007, 03:35:24 PM

We've never hosted a senior championship match any time in our history
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 30, 2007, 04:08:34 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on May 30, 2007, 03:32:55 PM
Quoteno doubt tirnanog will exploit this if this the case well known 4 dirty tactics

Tir na nÓg are well known for dirty tactics? how did you come to this conclusion?

It's in your name DORTY PORTY DOWN :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 30, 2007, 04:47:55 PM
QuoteIt's in your name DORTY PORTY DOWN 

>:( >:(........Apart from in the name  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 30, 2007, 04:52:36 PM
Maybe he just means your supporters?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 30, 2007, 06:22:55 PM
i dont know illdecide i dont think we had one last year but i could be wrong. it should be spread out a lot more.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 30, 2007, 06:51:44 PM
I note that the Official Armagh website has been update as recently as 28/04/07.
Is this a record?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 30, 2007, 07:48:18 PM
must be . worst web site going
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 30, 2007, 08:06:30 PM
Just one more point before i go to say mass ,will the armagh supporter who is sleeping? with Kevin McStay girlfriend/boyfriend please pack it in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 31, 2007, 10:23:27 AM
Quote from: illdecide on May 30, 2007, 04:08:34 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on May 30, 2007, 03:32:55 PM
Quoteno doubt tirnanog will exploit this if this the case well known 4 dirty tactics

Tir na nÓg are well known for dirty tactics? how did you come to this conclusion?

It's in your name DORTY PORTY DOWN :D :D

Oh aye, illdecide
Its all fun & games now, come the weekend ye will be looking to kick the fcuk out of each other
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 31, 2007, 10:42:27 AM
Quote from: full back on May 31, 2007, 10:23:27 AM
Quote from: illdecide on May 30, 2007, 04:08:34 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on May 30, 2007, 03:32:55 PM
Quoteno doubt tirnanog will exploit this if this the case well known 4 dirty tactics

Tir na nÓg are well known for dirty tactics? how did you come to this conclusion?

It's in your name DORTY PORTY DOWN :D :D

Oh aye, illdecide
Its all fun & games now, come the weekend ye will be looking to kick the fcuk out of each other


Now Now Full Back, we don't need any petrol on the fire. We will be there to play football, we will hit as hard but fair as we can. If Porty want to start that craic then we will let the ref deal with it( ;))

It doesn't matter who we are playing. It's just another team who stand in our way of getting another craic at Cross. We know Porty will try and get Bumpy sent off, if i was playing against him i'd probably do the same myself but it's up to him as an individual to make sure it doesn't happen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 31, 2007, 11:44:30 AM
QuoteIt doesn't matter who we are playing. It's just another team who stand in our way of getting another craic at Cross. We know Porty will try and get Bumpy sent off, if i was playing against him i'd probably do the same myself but it's up to him as an individual to make sure it doesn't happen.

We will be concentrating on our own game never mind trying to get other players sent off. As full back said bumpy will get himself sent off, more than likely in the same way as he did in the county final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on May 31, 2007, 12:35:11 PM
Bumpy has consistently got away with everything from referee's. He should have been sent off twice against Tir Na Nog last year, and then again this year but trys to talk his away around referees. All players should be treated the same in my opinion! The Clans hammered Tir Na Nog at the start of the year but ive got a feeling that this championship match will be alot closer.Apart from Brian Mallon, they have a full squad to choose from with mark mcallister back from his soccer exploits and young james donnelly stepping up from the minors.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 31, 2007, 12:56:36 PM
Quoteyoung james donnelly stepping up from the minors.

Cant see him starting. Hasn't shown his face at any of the training sessions in a while so if he does show up he will be on the bench.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on May 31, 2007, 01:03:09 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on May 31, 2007, 12:56:36 PM
Quoteyoung james donnelly stepping up from the minors.

Cant see him starting. Hasn't shown his face at any of the training sessions in a while so if he does show up he will be on the bench.

neither has mcallister for that matter. The question is will the management stick with the dedicated players that have been there all year or start his strongest 15? If tir na nog play anywere near to their full potential then the clans will find it tough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on May 31, 2007, 01:14:26 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 30, 2007, 06:22:55 PM
i dont know illdecide i dont think we had one last year but i could be wrong. it should be spread out a lot more.

Cross v's Mull was in the bridge last year, i was at the game, big big crowd.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 31, 2007, 01:47:07 PM
Quoteneither has mcallister for that matter. The question is will the management stick with the dedicated players that have been there all year or start his strongest 15? If tir na nog play anywere near to their full potential then the clans will find it tough.

McAllister was at training the other night and if he is there tonight he will probably be starting on sat. Surely if the managers want to win then they will have to field their strongest 15, i believe that if tir na nÓg play to their full potential for the whole game they will win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 31, 2007, 01:53:20 PM
when does any team play to their full potential for a whole game?!!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on May 31, 2007, 01:54:28 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on May 31, 2007, 01:47:07 PM
Quoteneither has mcallister for that matter. The question is will the management stick with the dedicated players that have been there all year or start his strongest 15? If tir na nog play anywere near to their full potential then the clans will find it tough.

McAllister was at training the other night and if he is there tonight he will probably be starting on sat. Surely if the managers want to win then they will have to field their strongest 15, i believe that if tir na nÓg play to their full potential for the whole game they will win.

Exactly, the thing is, whether they can keep that going for the full game is another thing!They need their big players like Speedy McCann and David Turley etc to step up to the challenge and stop waiting for something to happen. If Marsden and O'Hagan are kept quiet then theres no reason why they can't do it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 31, 2007, 02:24:05 PM
The championship venues one is a weird one. It always seems to be Abbey Park, Cross Cruppen and Keady. I rememebr years ago Killeavy use to host a few and the Bridge (if they sorted out that hill  :P) would be good venues too.

Why was the Dromintee v Cross U21 final held at the OGs ground, was that predetermined before the finalists were known?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on May 31, 2007, 02:32:37 PM
Good point Corn02,
it was probably predetermined because the ground had just been open.
but surely a game like this would have been better played in the south of the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on May 31, 2007, 02:47:24 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 31, 2007, 02:24:05 PM
The championship venues one is a weird one. It always seems to be Abbey Park, Cross Cruppen and Keady. I rememebr years ago Killeavy use to host a few and the Bridge (if they sorted out that hill  :P) would be good venues too.

Why was the Dromintee v Cross U21 final held at the OGs ground, was that predetermined before the finalists were known?

Probably because it was one of the few venues that were playable.....it was in great shape for so late in the year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 31, 2007, 02:56:37 PM
true enough it was, but surely there would of been a suitable ground in the South of the County open?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 31, 2007, 03:43:47 PM
Quote from: pdown79 on May 31, 2007, 01:54:28 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on May 31, 2007, 01:47:07 PM
Quoteneither has mcallister for that matter. The question is will the management stick with the dedicated players that have been there all year or start his strongest 15? If tir na nog play anywere near to their full potential then the clans will find it tough.

McAllister was at training the other night and if he is there tonight he will probably be starting on sat. Surely if the managers want to win then they will have to field their strongest 15, i believe that if tir na nÓg play to their full potential for the whole game they will win.

Exactly, the thing is, whether they can keep that going for the full game is another thing!They need their big players like Speedy McCann and David Turley etc to step up to the challenge and stop waiting for something to happen. If Marsden and O'Hagan are kept quiet then theres no reason why they can't do it.

You have me convinced now, i fancy Tir na nOg for an upset. Stop them two and you's will win. :o
I am quite looking forward to the Cross and Harps game on sunday night, the Harps league form is just a smoke screen. Could be tighter than people think ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on May 31, 2007, 04:20:04 PM
Illdecide, I hope your right, I think the  Harps are in a no lose situation here, everyone outside the club is expecting them to get a hammering so hopefully the lads go out and play with a youthful fearless exhuberance and take down the AI champs.

Why are some of the games 8pm, still a bit chancey when its raining ie darkness.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on May 31, 2007, 04:27:48 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 31, 2007, 03:43:47 PM
Quote from: pdown79 on May 31, 2007, 01:54:28 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on May 31, 2007, 01:47:07 PM
Quoteneither has mcallister for that matter. The question is will the management stick with the dedicated players that have been there all year or start his strongest 15? If tir na nog play anywere near to their full potential then the clans will find it tough.

McAllister was at training the other night and if he is there tonight he will probably be starting on sat. Surely if the managers want to win then they will have to field their strongest 15, i believe that if tir na nÓg play to their full potential for the whole game they will win.

Exactly, the thing is, whether they can keep that going for the full game is another thing!They need their big players like Speedy McCann and David Turley etc to step up to the challenge and stop waiting for something to happen. If Marsden and O'Hagan are kept quiet then theres no reason why they can't do it.

You have me convinced now, i fancy Tir na nOg for an upset. Stop them two and you's will win. :o
I am quite looking forward to the Cross and Harps game on sunday night, the Harps league form is just a smoke screen. Could be tighter than people think ;)

Surely fellas who havnt been training (well so you have stated tir na nog) can just attend the weeks training before the cship and play...can hardly be good for team morale or fellas busting thier balls and not getting game time!!

Would this happen in another club?

well i for one think that if you stop bumpy even more so than marsden then you have clans for the taking but its easier said than done... bumpys the most influential player in club football in the county!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on May 31, 2007, 04:38:36 PM
QuoteSurely fellas who havnt been training (well so you have stated tir na nog) can just attend the weeks training before the cship and play...can hardly be good for team morale or fellas busting thier balls and not getting game time!!

Would this happen in another club?

Im not saying that its fair but at the end of the day if you want to win you need to field the strongest team available at the time. I hope it doesn't happen this sat and tir na nÓg stick with the players that have been there all year but I cant see it happening!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: harps2002champs on May 31, 2007, 05:14:48 PM
Dungannon striker Mark McAllister is out of Northern Ireland's Under-21 squad for Friday's opening European Championship qualifier in Moldova.
McAllister, who recently rejected a move to Celtic, is ruled out because of a knee injury he suffered in the 4-0 defeat by Scotland Under-20s last week.

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 31, 2007, 06:07:42 PM
i stand corrected dontcare. corn dont start that craic about a hill in the bridge, there's no hill! anyway when we get the new fields fully operational it'll be some spot. i really can't see the harps doing anything i think their year ended when the championship draw was made, i'd be delighted to be proved wrong though!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 31, 2007, 06:14:26 PM
there defientely is a hill Pint. The new training fields are class by the way. Why is one longer than the other though?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 31, 2007, 06:20:07 PM
i assume the smaller one is to suit underage teams. i think i heard the county ladies where training on it. i could have dreamt that though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: banjoz on May 31, 2007, 07:11:37 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on May 31, 2007, 12:56:36 PM
Quoteyoung james donnelly stepping up from the minors.

Cant see him starting. Hasn't shown his face at any of the training sessions in a while so if he does show up he will be on the bench.



Thats because Armagh minor training is usually on the same time and on monday night he plays for his own club minor team!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BroJolly on May 31, 2007, 07:25:40 PM
Quote from: Bainisteoir on May 31, 2007, 04:27:48 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 31, 2007, 03:43:47 PM
Quote from: pdown79 on May 31, 2007, 01:54:28 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on May 31, 2007, 01:47:07 PM
Quoteneither has mcallister for that matter. The question is will the management stick with the dedicated players that have been there all year or start his strongest 15? If tir na nog play anywere near to their full potential then the clans will find it tough.

McAllister was at training the other night and if he is there tonight he will probably be starting on sat. Surely if the managers want to win then they will have to field their strongest 15, i believe that if tir na nÓg play to their full potential for the whole game they will win.

Exactly, the thing is, whether they can keep that going for the full game is another thing!They need their big players like Speedy McCann and David Turley etc to step up to the challenge and stop waiting for something to happen. If Marsden and O'Hagan are kept quiet then theres no reason why they can't do it.

You have me convinced now, i fancy Tir na nOg for an upset. Stop them two and you's will win. :o
I am quite looking forward to the Cross and Harps game on sunday night, the Harps league form is just a smoke screen. Could be tighter than people think ;)

Surely fellas who havnt been training (well so you have stated tir na nog) can just attend the weeks training before the cship and play...can hardly be good for team morale or fellas busting thier balls and not getting game time!!

Would this happen in another club?

well i for one think that if you stop bumpy even more so than marsden then you have clans for the taking but its easier said than done... bumpys the most influential player in club football in the county!!


Is there not an unwritten rule in championship that everything goes mad. The guy playing corner back all year is named in the half forwards, some fella who retired years ago makes a comeback, etc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on May 31, 2007, 09:43:14 PM
It probably has no bearing on Saturday's match but Tir na nOg u16's beat the Clans in the semi-final of the North Armagh championship tonight by 27 points!

McAllister not fit, oh dear!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TG4 on June 01, 2007, 09:23:23 AM
Pints,regarding your new fields,would they ever be passed as an acceptable venue for a league or championship game as they stand or is there a fence and standing area going to be put in place to seperate the 2 fields? just wondering because i dont think you could play senior league or championship games on it when it is not fenced off from the crowd if you know what i mean?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 01, 2007, 09:27:20 AM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on May 31, 2007, 09:43:14 PM
It probably has no bearing on Saturday's match but Tir na nOg u16's beat the Clans in the semi-final of the North Armagh championship tonight by 27 points!

McAllister not fit, oh dear!

Let me see you blowing your trumpet after Sat night (senior) and next Wed night (B-championship), and yes i have to agree with you it will have no bearing on these future games. As a matter of fact i will be using your comments as motavation to our lads making sure your keep quiet for the next couple of weeks >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 01, 2007, 10:06:12 AM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on May 31, 2007, 09:43:14 PM
It probably has no bearing on Saturday's match but Tir na nOg u16's beat the Clans in the semi-final of the North Armagh championship tonight by 27 points!

This result could have a major bearing in Saturday night ;)
Clans, BEWARE
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Red Hurley on June 01, 2007, 10:16:49 AM
When is the next round of the Senior Championship scheduled to take place? Surely they can get another round or two in before Armagh play again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 01, 2007, 10:38:51 AM
QuoteDungannon striker Mark McAllister is out of Northern Ireland's Under-21 squad for Friday's opening European Championship qualifier in Moldova.
McAllister, who recently rejected a move to Celtic, is ruled out because of a knee injury he suffered in the 4-0 defeat by Scotland Under-20s last week.

Shame to have a player of McAllisters quality missing for such an important match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ONeill on June 01, 2007, 10:39:20 AM
Could some kind soul give me the directions to Grangemore from Belfast.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 01, 2007, 11:01:46 AM

I'd have a stab if i knew where Grangemore was. is it grange your after or granemore?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ONeill on June 01, 2007, 11:03:27 AM
Sorry, Granemore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 01, 2007, 11:13:22 AM

Straight down the motorway to armagh, i'm assuming you'll know how to go via portydown.
when you come into the town keep in the left lane and go straight through the lights, passing the city hotel on your left.
take the slip road off to the left after the next set of lights (athletic grounds turn off) and go left again at the t junction.
this is the road for keady, ballymacnab, etc.
stay on this road for 4/5 miles and you'll see a turn to the right for granemore.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on June 01, 2007, 11:31:00 AM
Keady and Ballymacnab aren't on the same road. if your going to Keady take the left under the viaduct at tassagh, if you go the newtown(ballymacnab) road then you take the right to Granemore.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 01, 2007, 11:44:18 AM
Any results from last evening's Championship games?
Clonmore v Crossmaglen II
Clady v Corrinshego

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 01, 2007, 11:46:25 AM
Quote from: Red Hurley on June 01, 2007, 10:16:49 AM
When is the next round of the Senior Championship scheduled to take place? Surely they can get another round or two in before Armagh play again.

Not sure if Big Joe would let any more than this weekends games go ahead. Plus if he tries to fit in another round it doesn't leave much room for any replays from this weekends games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ONeill on June 01, 2007, 11:49:18 AM
Quote from: Uladh on June 01, 2007, 11:13:22 AM

Straight down the motorway to armagh, i'm assuming you'll know how to go via portydown.
when you come into the town keep in the left lane and go straight through the lights, passing the city hotel on your left.
take the slip road off to the left after the next set of lights (athletic grounds turn off) and go left again at the t junction.
this is the road for keady, ballymacnab, etc.
stay on this road for 4/5 miles and you'll see a turn to the right for granemore.

Thank you. At least you're good for something I suppose.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on June 01, 2007, 12:40:43 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 01, 2007, 09:27:20 AM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on May 31, 2007, 09:43:14 PM
It probably has no bearing on Saturday's match but Tir na nOg u16's beat the Clans in the semi-final of the North Armagh championship tonight by 27 points!

McAllister not fit, oh dear!

Let me see you blowing your trumpet after Sat night (senior) and next Wed night (B-championship), and yes i have to agree with you it will have no bearing on these future games. As a matter of fact i will be using your comments as motavation to our lads making sure your keep quiet for the next couple of weeks >:(

lol who are you colm mc kinstry... "i will be using your comments"... I dunno i think the game is there to be won for portadown, have heard allsorts about internal fallouts in the clans team...players been droppped etc.....mc allister will be a big loss although i think your lad who plays fullback,austin would take him ok ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 01, 2007, 12:44:43 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 01, 2007, 11:49:18 AM
Thank you.

Don't mention it.


Ever.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 01, 2007, 01:04:15 PM
Lads i hear you all talking about this guy mc Allister, bottom line is that he is soccer orientated and when the mullah(£) calls he couldn't give a fiddlers fook about stupid sport. Now the lad has talent but i would rather see an ordinary 5 8th player playing on saturday night because this guys will give his all for his club and be at every training session that is scheduled. The game will be a close encounter and i wouldn't base anything on league form. Cross will beat the harps comfortably i am sure of that. The harps have a lot of ability but just can't produce it on the big stage. Like last year when they frooze against a mediocre Dromintee team at Cruppen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 01, 2007, 01:18:56 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 01, 2007, 01:04:15 PM
Lads i hear you all talking about this guy mc Allister, bottom line is that he is soccer orientated and when the mullah(£) calls he couldn't give a fiddlers fook about stupid sport. Now the lad has talent but i would rather see an ordinary 5 8th player playing on saturday night because this guys will give his all for his club and be at every training session that is scheduled. The game will be a close encounter and i wouldn't base anything on league form. Cross will beat the harps comfortably i am sure of that. The harps have a lot of ability but just can't produce it on the big stage. Like last year when they frooze against a mediocre Dromintee team at Cruppen.

Fair play to ya Winsamsoon, you don't post that often but when you do it's at least a bit of sense. ;)

Trust me there were no fallouts in the Clans, we got rid of a few who where there just to make the numbers up in training. 40 of a panel was just to many so we told a few lads to step into the B's ::)

Me "Colm McKink" :D :D, I'm Bump :Dy ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on June 01, 2007, 01:32:19 PM
dunno if its sense,would you stay to play for the clans if a professional sports team came calling offering you an attractive weekly wage etc? would it not be true to say some of the fellas "just there to make up numbers" would have started last year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 01, 2007, 01:37:03 PM
Quote from: Bainisteoir on June 01, 2007, 01:32:19 PM
dunno if its sense,would you stay to play for the clans if a professional sports team came calling offering you an attractive weekly wage etc? would it not be true to say some of the fellas "just there to make up numbers" would have started last year?

Well one maybe, but he knew he wasn't gonna get his place this year so that was that. As for the money craic "i already get paid to play" it mighten be a whole lot but it pays most of the mortgage ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 01, 2007, 01:52:22 PM
There will have to be a stewarts inquiry if you are getting payed to play. Oh and that golfing thing for next week ain't looking too good i was out last night playing and i couldn't hit a barn door. :D sp it will be another carryout for the course to improve the swing ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on June 01, 2007, 02:17:33 PM
Dont suppose anyone would have the beting for the wkend C'ship matches.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 01, 2007, 02:40:54 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 31, 2007, 02:24:05 PM
The championship venues one is a weird one. It always seems to be Abbey Park, Cross Cruppen and Keady. I rememebr years ago Killeavy use to host a few and the Bridge (if they sorted out that hill  :P) would be good venues too.

Why was the Dromintee v Cross U21 final held at the OGs ground, was that predetermined before the finalists were known?

the reason these venues are chosen is that they are the best available in the county!! the hill at silverbridge is a joke!

u21 game was played there as the best venue in south armagh (cruppen) was closed at that stage of the season/off season!

the u21 championship is probably the most competitive competition in the county (cross will win the senior championship again...). anyone else think it should be given a slot in the summer perhaps instead of being played in awful conditions and being squeezed in between close season and christmas. i remember dromintee lads having to stay in over christmas because of the ongoing u21 championship a few years ago!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 01, 2007, 10:10:36 PM
Silverbridge 1-12 Ballymacnab 0-5

A very young bridge side dispensed with a poor, lazy Ballymacnab effort tonight.
Nab got off to the best start getting two points on the board before we'd time to look around us but we found the net a minute later when Eugene Byrne (I think) got his hand to a pass into the box.  We took off from there, had a fine 15 – 20 minute spell, led by 6 or 7 points or something and cruised the rest of the game.  A real team effort from our boys though Eugene Byrne was out on his own.   Nab's only consolation was that the ref was even worse than them!! Atrocious!!!!!!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 01, 2007, 10:25:00 PM
TG4
QuotePints,regarding your new fields,would they ever be passed as an acceptable venue for a league or championship game as they stand or is there a fence and standing area going to be put in place to seperate the 2 fields? just wondering because i dont think you could play senior league or championship games on it when it is not fenced off from the crowd if you know what i mean?
Aye I know though we played St. Peter's at Ballymacnab, in the championship, and all they had around the field was a rope!
Give us a chance with our fields, I think floodlights are first priority and I'd imagine the natural progression would to get something up between them.  Could be a few years though. 

Qub la la la (name says it all really)
Quotethe reason these venues are chosen is that they are the best available in the county!! the hill at silverbridge is a joke!
29 posts and 3 digs at the bridge, I'm touched.   ::)

What fine club do you hail from btw?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 02, 2007, 10:32:47 AM

Shocking game of football in Cross last night. Dromintee must have had 75% possession and kicked probably more than 20 wides. Newtown led the whole way and probably should have held on. brutal football altogether.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stranworst on June 02, 2007, 10:46:28 AM
Any results then from last night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 02, 2007, 11:42:40 AM
Dromintee 1- 9 Newtown 1-9 ?? I think this was the score not even sure myself.

Terrible shooting by Dromintee, plus kicking the ball into the keeper so many times meant that Newtown really could of won this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on June 02, 2007, 12:17:15 PM
score was 1-8 to 1-8...........newtown had a game plan and it worked until they took shane rock (num 14) out to midfield he was causin awful trouble for the full back in the first half....

but no matter the championship begins properly today 530pm ballycrummy armagh, when the crupps take on clan eireann....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 02, 2007, 12:33:22 PM
Quote
29 posts and 3 digs at the bridge, I'm touched.   ::)


referring to the hill at silverbridge is not a dig at the club itself. its just a fact. if you u lay on the ground at the goals at the club end its easy to see the difference. maybe now you's have the new pitches the main pitch can be repaired..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 02, 2007, 12:34:32 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on June 02, 2007, 12:17:15 PM
score was 1-8 to 1-8...........newtown had a game plan and it worked until they took shane rock (num 14) out to midfield he was causin awful trouble for the full back in the first half....

but no matter the championship begins properly today 530pm ballycrummy armagh, when the crupps take on clan eireann....

i hear clann eireann are missing a few?? any truth?? wats the predictions for this evenings games??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 02, 2007, 12:56:22 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on June 02, 2007, 12:33:22 PM
Quote
29 posts and 3 digs at the bridge, I'm touched.   ::)


referring to the hill at silverbridge is not a dig at the club itself. its just a fact. if you u lay on the ground at the goals at the club end its easy to see the difference. maybe now you's have the new pitches the main pitch can be repaired..
Maybe not on it's own but you weren't to shy about putting the boot in a few weeks ago...but judging by your other posts you're obvioulsy an idiot!
And you never told us what club you were from.

dromintee v st.michaels - Um... draw
carrickcruppen v clann eireann - Cruppen
clan na gael v tir na nog - clans
crossmaglen v armagh harps - cross easily
killeavey v granemore - killeavey
maghery v mullaghbawn - Mullaghbawn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 02, 2007, 01:02:05 PM
sorry if i offend u. it must be tough bein an intermediate side
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 02, 2007, 01:16:01 PM
 :D  :D  :D
I'm quite enjoying it actually. 
You're obviously very proud of your own club.



Off topic...
Where's Rufus?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 02, 2007, 01:44:24 PM
That win by silverbridge over the nab means they have just lost the  st peters game (championship) st pats (league) and ciaran conlon their county u21 player. going well?????????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 02, 2007, 02:04:06 PM
any word on what happened dromintee last night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on June 02, 2007, 02:11:13 PM
Quoteany word on what happened dromintee last night?

I think you might look at the text you quoted your previous post, la la indeed.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 02, 2007, 02:25:07 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 02, 2007, 02:11:13 PM
Quoteany word on what happened dromintee last night?

I think you might look at the text you quoted your previous post, la la indeed.



yea but that doesnt exactly explain wat went wrong. dromintee were clear favourites. and newtown havent exactly been going places recently! twat!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 02, 2007, 02:29:14 PM
QuoteThat win by silverbridge over the nab means they have just lost the  st peters game (championship) st pats (league) and ciaran conlon their county u21 player. going well?HuhHuh??

Of course we're going well and I'd say we haven't fielded our strongest team this year yet - though I'm not really sure anymore of what our strongest team would be. 
Our team last night started with, I think, 11 players under the age of 22 - including 5 of last years minors (and another came on) and 2 of those on their debuts.
4 of the 6 forwards were minors from last year, Liam Campbell (under 21 last year) and Brendan Byrne (about 20/21??) were they only two that weren't.
We'd certain starters  D McCann, Niall Reel, Brendan Bellew and Ryan Hamill out for various reasons. 
A similar team beat league leaders Killeavy.

Hopefully it'll keep going that way. 

And I don't think Ciaran Conlon will be back. Btw, he had only played 10 minutes against St. Peters, against Keady and was substituted in the second half against Cullyhanna.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stranworst on June 02, 2007, 02:34:03 PM
What about the tones against ballyhegan tonight? Will the armagh county players be available for ballyhegan? Noticed they were favourites for this clash even though they a division below?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 02, 2007, 02:44:24 PM
Quote from: Stranworst on June 02, 2007, 02:34:03 PM
What about the tones against ballyhegan tonight? Will the armagh county players be available for ballyhegan? Noticed they were favourites for this clash even though they a division below?

of course they will be available and tones are going real bad at the minute!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stranworst on June 02, 2007, 02:46:09 PM
What do you mean of course??!! Don't get cheeky with me qub! It's just a friend of mine from derrymacash was looking to back the tones tonight because they in div 2. Dunno if they stand a chance though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 02, 2007, 02:46:59 PM
Shocking attacking performance from dromintee. not sure what the wide count would have been but micheal o'rourke must have kicked 10 scorable chances wide on his own. as someone said earlier, we owned the ball from start to finish but newtown's blanket defence forced our lads into stupid shots. conceding 1-08 against newtown should have won us the game. the goal was fortuitous and three or four of their scored frees were dubious to say the least. we certainly weren't getting the same frees at the other end but i guess refs like to adjudicate in upsets.
replay next weekend some time apparently.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on June 02, 2007, 03:04:37 PM
QuoteRyan Hamill out for various reasons.

wouldnt be due to that woeful hair doo..by any chance! butcho the leg-end.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 02, 2007, 03:07:50 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on June 02, 2007, 03:04:37 PM
QuoteRyan Hamill out for various reasons.

wouldnt be due to that woeful hair doo..by any chance! butcho the leg-end.....
;D
He'd probaby tell you it was "style". 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 02, 2007, 03:36:25 PM
Big Ham has got the style alright boy, the girls love the blonde!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 02, 2007, 04:03:16 PM
Quote from: corn02 on June 02, 2007, 03:36:25 PM
Big Ham has got the style alright boy, the girls love the blonde!
Well you'd think he'd dye it blonde then rather than that peculiar yellow/white colour.  The young ones these days! *shakes head*
Thank God he doesn't play like he does his hair!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 02, 2007, 04:17:37 PM
Playing well this year is he POG?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 02, 2007, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: corn02 on June 02, 2007, 04:17:37 PM
Playing well this year is he POG?
Aye his usual solid self.  He really made the position his own last year and when I think of it, he's actually very consistent. 
He's had young Aidan Hearty along side him in the middle of the field this year and with Aidan still learning Hamill's had to work hard and he's done it. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 02, 2007, 09:08:47 PM
Any results from tonight?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 02, 2007, 09:14:36 PM
Thats what I am trying to get a hold of POG, ill post if I find out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 02, 2007, 09:20:50 PM
Cruppen and Clan Eireann drew, I know no more than that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 02, 2007, 09:24:39 PM
Hmm not really surprised, I wonder is there many left standing at the other clanns game.


I went on to orchardcounty and seen that the "championship" thread was at the top, thought to myself someone has the results here went into the thread and found this......
Quoteis their a back door in the championship
:-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: banjoz on June 02, 2007, 09:57:14 PM
tir na nog and clanns drew ref was a joke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 02, 2007, 09:58:49 PM
Quote from: banjoz on June 02, 2007, 09:57:14 PM
tir na nog and clanns drew ref was a joke

What a surprise
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 02, 2007, 10:27:11 PM
Who was the referee and where was he from?
What makes you state that "he was a joke"?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 03, 2007, 12:07:44 AM

read back a page or two and the predictions of his performance
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stranworst on June 03, 2007, 11:26:53 AM
Any other results from last night then apart from the clans or clann eireann??

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BroJolly on June 03, 2007, 11:34:20 AM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on June 02, 2007, 10:27:11 PM
Who was the referee and where was he from?
What makes you state that "he was a joke"?


Ref was shocking. In the first minute he sent a clans and portadown man off for handbags. In the second half, a portadown defender was dwelling too long on a free kick, so the ref blew him up and physically indicated that he was going to throw the ball up. However, Marsden took a free kick and the ball ended in the net. Incredibly the goal stood and that brought clans back into it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 03, 2007, 01:27:30 PM
Tones beat ballyhagan by 2pts with late goal!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stranworst on June 03, 2007, 01:29:50 PM
That'll make the punters in my bookies very happy who got on the tones before the betting was suspended!

Charlie Stubbs will be loving it as well, though I hear he didn't even go to the match last night because he wanted to go on the drink, tut tut
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 03, 2007, 01:41:34 PM
Tullysaran got their first win of the year as well.... beating lisummon by a single point i think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardasell on June 03, 2007, 08:49:48 PM
Great win by Killeavy over Granemore - even though it was expected by all accounts - Paul Watters scored the goal that eventually split the teams in the end.  Stansfield was not needed, thankfully, and Killeavy can hopefully build on this to go on another good run.  Happy heads round St Moninna's tonight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 03, 2007, 09:03:16 PM
from what i hear cross are 6-2 up 10 mins into the 2nd half
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 03, 2007, 09:30:38 PM
10 - 4 to cross and tony mac sent off for second yellow according to championship. surprised maghery beat mullaghbawn.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 03, 2007, 09:35:23 PM
result announced.
cross 0-14 harps 1-4.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 03, 2007, 10:03:42 PM
Cross were clearly the better team and you always felt that they could step it up a gear when required, but Harps gave a good account of themselves. I'd be interested to see the stats as Harps hit a bagful of wides.  At 6-3, and with Harps gathering a head of steam, Cross had Tony MAc sent off and they just seemed to step it up a gear, Harps weren't helped by a joke of a red card for Kevin Kelly who had been very effective at FF.  Obviously biased but the ref was a clown.  Best for Harps were Kevin Daly (my motm), Charlie Vernon, Kevin Kelly & Colly Holmes.

Still think the Ogs can beat them.
Title: Harps V Cross
Post by: say nothin on June 03, 2007, 10:17:54 PM
have to agree with Benny, Thought the Harps tried hard, unfortunately when playing Cross you have take every scoring opportunity, and it just didnt work for the Harps tonight.

Thought Kevin Daly played well and Charlie Vernon was head and shoulders above anyone else on the park..

How the hell does this man not start for the county in front of Stephen K.... ??? ???

Just hope Harps can build on this performance and pick up a few points in the league.

Paul Hearty dropped 2 balls tonight again, his confidence has been shattered, maybe McKinney might get a chance between the posts for the backdoor game.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 03, 2007, 10:58:18 PM
Rather surprised to see Dominic Clarke inside the pitch enclosure tonight.
Clarke, who is manager of Harps, was sent off in a League game less than two weeks ago.
Anyone from the Harps throw any light on this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 03, 2007, 11:37:17 PM

Referees rarely report putting team officials behind the wire at league games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 04, 2007, 12:02:24 AM
we'd one of ours sent off in the league last year and he was behind wire for few games!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 04, 2007, 07:14:26 AM
A much improved performance from the Harps over last year's lying down session against Dromintee.

Class just won through for Cross in the end, they had more time on the ball than the Harps and this was the difference.

Kevin Kelly maybe should have got the line, but Tony Mac should have got a straight red for the exact same offence rather than the cop out second yellow.

Minnie Holmes certainly added fire to the Harps' bellies.  He didn't do much from play but certainly set the tempo for the fight that the Harps shown.

And how Joe thinks that Charlie Vernon couldn't do a job somewhere.............
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 04, 2007, 08:41:01 AM
Where do we start with Ronan Quigley, has to be the worst offical i have ever seen. He gave the Clanns a goal that should have been a hop ball he played 7 minutes injury time to give portydown an equaliser (and prob deserved equaliser) just making up for his previous mistakes. He sent 3 men off and booked about 12 ruined the game completley, bring back big Sam McClatchy all is forgiven.

Was up at the Cross v Harps last night, Harps def had chances but didn't take them. They kicked loads of wides in the first half that were very scoreable. Tony mac got 2 yellows but should have been a straight red, any other player from any team other than Cross would have got 6 months in Magherberry for that elbow >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on June 04, 2007, 09:44:27 AM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on June 03, 2007, 10:58:18 PM
Rather surprised to see Dominic Clarke inside the pitch enclosure tonight.
Clarke, who is manager of Harps, was sent off in a League game less than two weeks ago.
Anyone from the Harps throw any light on this?


Yeah he's very friendly with Fergal Logan ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 04, 2007, 09:47:14 AM
Quigley was a complete disgrace inside the first three minutes he had 2 men sent off and two men booked for what can only be discribed as handbags. Inside the first ten he had hopped the ball 6 times and give numerous free kicks for pushes, over carrying and lifting the ball of the ground. Granted the clans goal should have been a hop ball but he made up for it by playing 7 yes 7 minutes injury time in the second half. Plus he moved the last 45 into the middle of the pitch when it was clearly almost at the sideline. Then the clans got a sideline ball and the corner forward was man handled before the ball was kicked in front of his very eyes. His verdict he gave both players a black card and told the corner forward "not to run before the ball was kicked" :D i thought this was the best one i have heard yet. A draw was probably a fair result but the referee ruined a fairly good game. I was at the Cross game myself and once again Mc Entee challenges were a joke. His second was definetly well worthy of a straight red but things will never change. Eamon Nugent hadn't the balls to send him off.In the first half Sk lost control of the ball and drove his forearm into the face of the on coming Harps man. The harps man ended up in Hospital andSk got of scott free. Watching the two games i know which one was dirtier in the clans game there were three reds and about 7 yellows. In the cross game One straight red and one for two yellows. Double standards are rife in our county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 04, 2007, 10:21:01 AM
QuoteThen the clans got a sideline ball and the corner forward was man handled before the ball was kicked in front of his very eyes. His verdict he gave both players a black card and told the corner forward "not to run before the ball was kicked"

Hard to see how the clans corner forward was man handled considering the tir na nÓg corner back had both hands in the air and had his back to the forward. The ref was a disgrace the whole way through the match and should have gave a hop ball before clan na gaels goal. Clans really underestimated Tir na nÓg and it almost cost them!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 04, 2007, 10:29:42 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on June 02, 2007, 02:46:59 PM
Shocking attacking performance from dromintee. not sure what the wide count would have been but micheal o'rourke must have kicked 10 scorable chances wide on his own. as someone said earlier, we owned the ball from start to finish but newtown's blanket defence forced our lads into stupid shots. conceding 1-08 against newtown should have won us the game. the goal was fortuitous and three or four of their scored frees were dubious to say the least. we certainly weren't getting the same frees at the other end but i guess refs like to adjudicate in upsets.
replay next weekend some time apparently.

Ah ffs
Every week, it is about how Dromintee were hard done by
1 of the free kicks was dubious, the others were warranted
Dromintee can count themselves very lucky to still be in the Championship - maybe a bit more time should be spent on the training field practicing shooting
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 04, 2007, 01:15:52 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on June 04, 2007, 10:21:01 AM
QuoteThen the clans got a sideline ball and the corner forward was man handled before the ball was kicked in front of his very eyes. His verdict he gave both players a black card and told the corner forward "not to run before the ball was kicked"

Hard to see how the clans corner forward was man handled considering the tir na nÓg corner back had both hands in the air and had his back to the forward. The ref was a disgrace the whole way through the match and should have gave a hop ball before clan na gaels goal. Clans really underestimated Tir na nÓg and it almost cost them!!

WELL WE BOTH AGREE THE REF WAS AND STILL IS A TWAT. WE DID UNDERESTIMATE PORTY A LITTLE BIT BUT THE RAINY NIGHT AND CHAMPIONSHIP FOOTBALL IS A GOOD LEVELER AND FAIR PLAY TO YOU'S FOR KEEPING AT IT. SEE YOU'S ON SAT EVENING AGAIN ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 04, 2007, 01:43:08 PM
QuoteWELL WE BOTH AGREE THE REF WAS AND STILL IS A TWAT. WE DID UNDERESTIMATE PORTY A LITTLE BIT BUT THE RAINY NIGHT AND CHAMPIONSHIP FOOTBALL IS A GOOD LEVELER AND FAIR PLAY TO YOU'S FOR KEEPING AT IT. SEE YOU'S ON SAT EVENING AGAIN

Hopefully there will be a decent ref this time and a win for Tir na nÓg  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 04, 2007, 03:02:10 PM
Junior & Senior draws will be made Wednesday night

Intermediate Draw

Madden v Wolfe Tones
Whitecross v St Peter's
St Patrick's v Crossmaglen II
Culloville v An Port Mor

AFAIK these games are to be played this weekend

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Countdown on June 04, 2007, 03:33:38 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 04, 2007, 09:47:14 AM
Quigley was a complete disgrace

This is one man who should not be issued with 2 cards and a note book. woudnt let him preside over a charity match (which in itself would probably present enough antics) . I have had on field confrontations with him before and this is not an attack on him personnally but when stepping over that white line hes an arrogant egotistical maniac on one almighty power trip. I know Armagh have there fair share of bad refferees including my own club but this fella along with a select other few take the biscuit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 04, 2007, 04:12:18 PM
QuoteThis is one man who should not be issued with 2 cards and a note book. woudnt let him preside over a charity match (which in itself would probably present enough antics) . I have had on field confrontations with him before and this is not an attack on him personnally but when stepping over that white line hes an arrogant egotistical maniac on one almighty power trip. I know Armagh have there fair share of bad refferees including my own club but this fella along with a select other few take the biscuit.

It's almost as if he's only out there to make a name for himself. The first thing he said when the two captains went up to him at the start of the match was that he wont hesitate to send anyone off, something which he backed up no less than 2 minutes into the match. Should never have the responsibility of refereeing a senior championship match again!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 04, 2007, 04:36:17 PM
Tir Na og an you explain where the 7 minutes of injury time came from?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Red Hurley on June 04, 2007, 05:02:36 PM
After watching Cross on Sunday night, is there realistically anyone in Armagh who can take them? Anyone with a chance of stopping them in the future.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on June 04, 2007, 05:24:39 PM
NO
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 04, 2007, 11:37:32 PM
do you know the most laughable thing about ronan quigley is that he was actually awarded armagh referee of the year last year

would be interesting to set up a ronan quigley watch between now and the rest of the season to see how many players he sends off! the ronan quigley thread! anyone in agreement?

can anyone from clans or tir na nog name the players who he sent off? and if any of those players had represented the county at all in their footballing careers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 05, 2007, 12:08:09 AM
Ronan Austin was one, he played for Armagh in a few games and also won the u-21 All Ireland. The other was Mark O hagan who has played minor at least. The Tir Na Og man was paul mc Cann i think, not sure if he has any county credentials.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 05, 2007, 12:08:49 AM
will yous stop the yapping. theres hardly a decent ref in armagh and no one complains about them more than me but we're going into the third day now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on June 05, 2007, 12:26:42 AM
can any1 tell me if eugene casey got a straight red against silverbridge last year in the championship? if so does that not mean he was ineligable for last wks match against sarsfield were i hear he scored 1-3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on June 05, 2007, 12:31:07 AM
I reckon it is between Whitecross and Culloville for the Intermediate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 05, 2007, 08:35:05 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 05, 2007, 12:08:49 AM
will yous stop the yapping. theres hardly a decent ref in armagh and no one complains about them more than me but we're going into the third day now.

Pints your just sticking up for your clubman "Mr Quigley", he had a black eye and swollen face on sat night and i asked him "what happened you"? He said i had an argument with a 500kg Golden Charlie :D :D :D Fcuk me even the cattle don't like him (he prob beats them with a 2" pipe) ;)

Anyway Pint you are prob right, it's time to move on to this weeks games. I see the Bridge have picked up again from their championship defeat with a couple of league wins, It looks like the second division is gonna be between Killeavey, Cullyhanna and Silverbridge!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 05, 2007, 09:38:44 AM
There are no mid fixtures in the Irish news today but that Harps v Ogs in the B semi is tomorrow night in Abbey at 8pm, players meeting up at 7.15
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 05, 2007, 09:39:51 AM
It will be over when we decide to stop talking about it. Once again this is a discussion board ie a place were discussions are held. So If we feel the need to talk about it till next year then we will.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on June 05, 2007, 09:41:37 AM
Any word of where the Middletown vs Ballyhegan B championship Semi is?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: joebloggs on June 05, 2007, 10:11:48 AM
Anyone got a full listing of all the results from division 2 so far this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 05, 2007, 10:20:03 AM
QuoteTir Na og an you explain where the 7 minutes of injury time came from?

I don't know where he got 7 minutes of injury time from but I guess he wanted to correct his earlier mistake of not giving a hop ball which lead to clans goal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 05, 2007, 10:56:38 AM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on June 05, 2007, 10:20:03 AM
QuoteTir Na og an you explain where the 7 minutes of injury time came from?

I don't know where he got 7 minutes of injury time from but I guess he wanted to correct his earlier mistake of not giving a hop ball which lead to clans goal.

At least your honest, i see one of your players has landed himself in a spot of bother with the law. I'll not name names or his crimes but i got a shock when i heard what he had or supposed to have done. "Holy Fcuk" :o :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on June 05, 2007, 11:14:21 AM
Quote from: inthemaking on June 05, 2007, 12:26:42 AM
can any1 tell me if eugene casey got a straight red against silverbridge last year in the championship? if so does that not mean he was ineligable for last wks match against sarsfield were i hear he scored 1-3

yes i also heard he got a straight red what will happen now. is the champ games on this week does any know
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 05, 2007, 11:17:52 AM
From Orchard County

Wednesday 6 June

ACL – Division III (8.00)
Clady v Tullysaran (Patrick Duffy)


Friday 8 June

Senior Football Championship Replay (7.00)
Carrickcruppen v Clann Eireann (Jimmy McKee) at Pearse Og Park
(extra time, if required)

ACL – Division II (8.00)
Silverbridge v Annaghmore (Jim Lynch)

Division III (8.00)
Ballyhegan v Lissummon (Seamus O'Neill)
Clonmore v Middletown (Paul Rath)

Division IV (8.00)
Derrynoose v Belleek (Damian McConville)
O'Hanlon's v Mullaghbrack (Kevin McNeice)
Corrinshego v Forkhill (Tony Watters)


Saturday 9 June

Senior Football Championship Replay (7.00)
Clan na Gael v Tir na nÓg (Paudie Hughes) at Maghery
(extra time, if required)

Intermediate Football Championship Quarter-final (7.30)
Crossmaglen II v St Patrick's (Rory Robinson) at Silverbridge


Sunday 10 June

Senior Football Championship Replay (7.00)
Dromintee v St Michael's (Brendan Gorman) at Crossmaglen
(extra time, if required)

Intermediate Football Championship Quarter-finals
Culloville v An Port Mor (Barney Henry) at Abbey Park (2.30)
St Peter's v Whitecross (Jim Slevin) at Abbey Park (4.00)

ACL – Division I (2.00)
Mullaghbawn v Crossmaglen (Kevin McNeice)

ACL – Division II (2.00)
Keady v Killeavey (Mickey Leonard)

ACL – Division III (2.00)
Collegeland v Middletown (Oliver Hearty)
Sarsfields v Clady (Stephen Murray)
Tullysaran v Clonmore (Kevin Gallogly)

ACL – Division IV (2.00)
Belleek v Mullaghbrack (Ronan Quigley)
Dorsey Emmett's v Derrynoose (Gary Smith)
Eire Og v Phelim Brady's (Paul Rath)
Shane O'Neill's v Grange (Jimmy McKee)


Monday 11 June

Intermediate Football Championship Quarter-final (7.30)
Madden v Wolfe Tones (Dessie McDonnell) at Ballyhegan


Tuesday 12 June

ACL – Division II (8.00)
Carrickcruppen v Silverbridge (Sean McClelland)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 05, 2007, 11:38:17 AM

Got to most of the senior championship over the weekend and althought there are loads of discussion points, i think it was a good weekend of championship fare. every game was competitive and although the quality wasn´t top drawer it was all highly entertaining. harps made a good game of what could have been a stroll in advance, newtown fought like demons and granemore possibly should have beaten killeavy.

i thoroughly enjoyed all of the football and it´s great football to watch with every club all out. its a pity its only once a year and it makes me wonder why we haven´t a derry type format in place to maximise the product exposure or at least a back door.

saying someone asked, going on the weekend you´d have to say noone will beat cross, but in saying that people are judging cross on pedigree and not sunday´s performance so its not sensible to judge the opposition on one day´s work.

i think this could be a very open championship yet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 05, 2007, 11:43:55 AM
QuoteSenior Football Championship Replay (7.00)
Clan na Gael v Tir na nÓg (Paudie Hughes) at Maghery
(extra time, if required)

I was reading the Irish News earlier and it says the match starts at 7.30...which one is correct? We were informed that it was 7 just wondering if the Irish News have got it wrong!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on June 05, 2007, 11:48:20 AM
Winsamsoon

Was that Paul McCann, Andy's younger brother?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 05, 2007, 11:58:08 AM
QuoteWas that Paul McCann, Andy's younger brother?

No it wasnt Andy's younger brother and it wasnt Paul McCann that got sent off, it was Kieran McCann that was sent off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on June 05, 2007, 12:15:24 PM
Cheers Tir Na Nog
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 05, 2007, 01:09:41 PM
Lads what club is Paudie Hughes from? Is he the young referee with the sandy coloured hair? and what experience's have yous had with him recently
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 05, 2007, 01:14:44 PM
I heard he was from Cross but not 100%
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 05, 2007, 01:18:00 PM
well thats great news on yon thug casey. i'll be looking forward to sarsfields being reinstated in the championship. its interesting the response it got and it's probably a reflection on the response it'll get in the county. one of the worse rows in a match in armagh and only one person banned who now doesn't serve his ban but lets go into the 4th day of complaining about a poor refereeing display. who said a few pages back about there being double standards in the county? dead right!  another kick in the teeti for the bridge.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 05, 2007, 01:23:35 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 05, 2007, 01:18:00 PM
well thats great news on yon thug casey. i'll be looking forward to sarsfields being reinstated in the championship. its interesting the response it got and it's probably a reflection on the response it'll get in the county. one of the worse rows in a match in armagh and only one person banned who now doesn't serve his ban but lets go into the 4th day of complaining about a poor refereeing display. who said a few pages back about there being double standards in the county? dead right!  another kick in the teeti for the bridge.

Nobody on this site would disagree with you Pints, the Bridge got the shity end of the stick alright and maybe St Pats will get what they deserve
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 05, 2007, 01:28:28 PM
i think Paudie Hughes is from cross alright, did he not referee a county championship match there recently??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 05, 2007, 01:31:22 PM
POG - What was the outcome of the bans from your game last year?
Did anyone get any & what way will Sarsfields be out of this?


Paudie Hughes has plenty of experience both inside the county & intercounty. Has refereed an AI minor semi or final I think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 05, 2007, 01:31:48 PM
they will not and do you know why. because they weren't playing against cross or harps or clans etc. we'd 3 threads on paddy bradley getting off last week because the co board blew it. 10 or so st pats players got off on exactly the same thing. i think two people commented on this thread about it, myself and six inch nail. speaks volumes!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 05, 2007, 01:37:47 PM
sorry last post was to illdecide awful hard to post on phone. full back the 10 or so st pats players banned, inc thug mackin got them lifted because co board hadn't investigated it according to some procedure or something. last rumour i heard was we were gettin letter of apology from co board. isn't that nice. i don't know if we ever did.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on June 05, 2007, 01:38:26 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 05, 2007, 01:18:00 PM
well thats great news on yon thug casey. i'll be looking forward to sarsfields being reinstated in the championship. its interesting the response it got and it's probably a reflection on the response it'll get in the county. one of the worse rows in a match in armagh and only one person banned who now doesn't serve his ban but lets go into the 4th day of complaining about a poor refereeing display. who said a few pages back about there being double standards in the county? dead right!  another kick in the teeti for the bridge.

Something shoud be done about this as it was a straight red he got last year in cross in his last champ match, so as far as i know about the rules you must miss you first champ match the following year.


On the Paudie Hughes situation as ref, he was the ref on sunday past in the louth game and was in crooker a few times. He is from cross is young with plenty of experience. One thing i do know is that he hates mouths in a game.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 05, 2007, 01:45:13 PM
Does anyone know the definitive on red cards from your last championship game? Was it a straight red or 2 yellows?

Paudie Hughes is one of the best we have IMO
Good knowledge of the game & at least you can ask him about certain decisions, but as dont care syas if you mouth at him he wont stand for it at all - guess he will be busy Sat night :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 05, 2007, 02:09:42 PM
Quote from: full back on June 05, 2007, 01:45:13 PM
Does anyone know the definitive on red cards from your last championship game? Was it a straight red or 2 yellows?

Paudie Hughes is one of the best we have IMO
Good knowledge of the game & at least you can ask him about certain decisions, but as dont care syas if you mouth at him he wont stand for it at all - guess he will be busy Sat night :D

::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 05, 2007, 02:18:31 PM
Paudie is a good ref and I grew up beside him.  He was never a good footballer but always understood the game.  He is one of the better young refs around , he is about 29, and is getting big games as a result.  Unfortunately for him though he may have to look outside of the county to get a senior final for a while ;)

Have been off limits due to work load for a while but it is good to see my old friends in Cross still doing it.  I didn't see what Tony did but have it on first hand account from a player that the dirty digs were coming from both sides.   Part of the game lads, and I know the Harps are not whingers like some other clubs and will look to their internal problems first before blaming the ref.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 05, 2007, 02:25:03 PM
illdecide, your mood has changed somewhat this week
Did the Portydown men give ye lot a shock? Favourites should always come out on top in the replay so dont worry about it ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 05, 2007, 02:40:25 PM
Quoteilldecide, you mood has changed somewhat this week
Did the Portydown men give ye lot a shock?

We'll give them another shock this week by putting them out of the championship  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 05, 2007, 02:48:49 PM
Crossbar you say the dirty digs were coming from both sides, but does this make it right?. My point was that ourselves and Tir Na Og had men sent off for handbags while Tony Mc Entee got two yellows for two blatant attacks. So how can this be justified. On the issue of Pudie Hughes i think he is a good one and i think saturday night both teams can concentrate on the footballing side without having to worry about a referee. "Tir Na Og" I agree with your summary of the 7 minutes. We were also told it was 7 and it was announced at Half time in the Cross match for 7 so the Irish news may have misprinted.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 05, 2007, 02:53:00 PM
Winsamsoon, just putting a bit of balance on it.  Not condoning it either, but as I did not see it I can only comment on what I hear.  The refereeing standards are one of the biggest issues that need to be addressed I believe, and not just the quality of refs but also the respect (or lack of) that the players show to refs in general. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 05, 2007, 03:18:09 PM
I will agree with you there on both counts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 05, 2007, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on June 05, 2007, 02:40:25 PM
Quoteilldecide, you mood has changed somewhat this week
Did the Portydown men give ye lot a shock?

We'll give them another shock this week by putting them out of the championship  ;)  ;)

Glad to see your cocky and confident of a win. Frenches bookies are giving you's lads 4/1, go in and Lump on. I might even back you's myself :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 05, 2007, 06:27:37 PM
QuoteGlad to see your cocky and confident of a win. Frenches bookies are giving you's lads 4/1, go in and Lump on. I might even back you's myself

I thought the odds might have went down after sat but I might throw £100 on us ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stranworst on June 05, 2007, 06:53:00 PM
Which french's is that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on June 05, 2007, 10:43:39 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 05, 2007, 10:56:38 AM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on June 05, 2007, 10:20:03 AM
QuoteTir Na og an you explain where the 7 minutes of injury time came from?

I don't know where he got 7 minutes of injury time from but I guess he wanted to correct his earlier mistake of not giving a hop ball which lead to clans goal.

At least your honest, i see one of your players has landed himself in a spot of bother with the law. I'll not name names or his crimes but i got a shock when i heard what he had or supposed to have done. "Holy Fcuk" :o :o

Yes, i think i know what your talking about. Seems very co-incidental that it seemed to reach the news even though it had to relevence to the other sport. So much for him being a "soccer orientated" so and so which he was called a few days back,the clans defense seemed to "cope well" with him anyway didnt they.... ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 06, 2007, 08:25:12 AM
so what happened??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 06, 2007, 08:58:37 AM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on June 05, 2007, 06:27:37 PM
QuoteGlad to see your cocky and confident of a win. Frenches bookies are giving you's lads 4/1, go in and Lump on. I might even back you's myself

I thought the odds might have went down after sat but I might throw £100 on us ;D

The odd's did drop, you's were 5/1 last week.

pdown79 you know what it's like yourself bad news travells fast

Hank i will let the porty lads tell you what he supposidly done, all i can say it involves a few females.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 06, 2007, 09:01:53 AM
 :o Fill us in lads!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 06, 2007, 09:41:28 AM
he still is soccer orientated, you watch what happens when the soccer season starts. The you can come back and tell me about his comittment. I may be wrong but i think Tir Na Og will go out the window. It is the same with Scullion, who is actually a Wolfe Tones soccer orientated player. I would say if he wanted to play for Tir Na Og on saturday night then the management would start him. This is wrong on the rest of the lads who are gaels and have trained all year. No one denied the fact that Mc Allister is a good one, he will cause most defenses problems and the clans were no acception. He has pace and power he is also physically strong and if he had a bit more support coming from deep ie Brian Mallon Tir Na Og would have a lot more options but this is for another debate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 06, 2007, 10:48:43 AM
Quoteso what happened??

Dont think its something that should be discussed on a GAA board.

QuoteThe odd's did drop, you's were 5/1 last week.

We were 4/1 last week in Portadown. David scullion has been at training for the last 2 or 3 weeks so if he turns up this week he may get a starting place come saturday.

Any of you lot going out to watch the game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on June 06, 2007, 12:22:42 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 06, 2007, 08:58:37 AM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on June 05, 2007, 06:27:37 PM
QuoteGlad to see your cocky and confident of a win. Frenches bookies are giving you's lads 4/1, go in and Lump on. I might even back you's myself

I thought the odds might have went down after sat but I might throw £100 on us ;D

The odd's did drop, you's were 5/1 last week.

pdown79 you know what it's like yourself bad news travells fast

Hank i will let the porty lads tell you what he supposidly done, all i can say it involves a few females.

Theres bookies in portadown giving tir na nog at 6/1. Ive got you all wrong to be fair, i thought you were takling about mcallister being "injured" etc etc but i know what you were on about now. This is a discussion board concerning sport, dont think it would be right.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 06, 2007, 12:25:15 PM
ok fair enuf.... think iv kopped on now, seen it in the portydown times but didnt kno thats whos yous were talkn about!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 06, 2007, 01:14:06 PM
I C from the fixtures in the Irish News yesterday that we play Porty on Mon night in the semi final of the B championship, did you's loose any players from last weeks senior match. I heard that Porty were def favourites for that game, in fact i was told Porty are favourites for the final as well. You's must have some squad of players over there, although i suppose there is only one club in Portadown so you's would have loads to pick from. I watched the Clans B's this year, they are not that strong and probably will struggle to get a fair team out.

It gives good weather for Sat nights reply so there will be no excuses this time (from either teams) bring it on and may the best team win (as long as it's the Clans)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 06, 2007, 01:30:55 PM
QuoteI C from the fixtures in the Irish News yesterday that we play Porty on Mon night in the semi final of the B championship, did you's loose any players from last weeks senior match. I heard that Porty were def favourites for that game, in fact i was told Porty are favourites for the final as well. You's must have some squad of players over there, although i suppose there is only one club in Portadown so you's would have loads to pick from. I watched the Clans B's this year, they are not that strong and probably will struggle to get a fair team out.

It gives good weather for Sat nights reply so there will be no excuses this time (from either teams) bring it on and may the best team win (as long as it's the Clans)

We lost one or two players from last week I think which means the B team will be done to the bare minimum! Not too sure if there favourites for anything judging on recent performances. The conditions on the pitch werent really that bad last saturday but if its a dry night it will be a better game and no-one can blame the conditions for losing!!

Tir na nÓg to win by 2, im feeling confident  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on June 06, 2007, 01:56:39 PM
Is that the David Scullion who used to play football for Aston Villa?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 06, 2007, 03:34:59 PM
QuoteIs that the David Scullion who used to play football for Aston Villa?

Aye that would be him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 06, 2007, 04:33:53 PM
 :D "He has been training for 2-3  weeks so he may get a starting place on saturday night".  :D :D :D I think the season started just after christmas. This is where all the hard work is done and when scullion was getting the dollars for playing the so called beautiful game. If he wasn't there from the start then he wouldn't be in my team. But then again this may be why Tir Na Og have under achieved.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 06, 2007, 05:31:10 PM

well Dromintee were mighty lucky to stay in the championship at the weekend. woeful performance from our lads.

Championship looks like a stroll for the wangers this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on June 06, 2007, 09:30:20 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 06, 2007, 04:33:53 PM
:D "He has been training for 2-3  weeks so he may get a starting place on saturday night".  :D :D :D I think the season started just after christmas. This is where all the hard work is done and when scullion was getting the dollars for playing the so called beautiful game. If he wasn't there from the start then he wouldn't be in my team. But then again this may be why Tir Na Og have under achieved.

I understand what way your thinking about mcallister and scullion, but no play can train 4 nights a week and 2 matches at the weekend, it wouldnt do anyone much good. I do however feel for the boys that have been ever-present at training all year but when championship time comes, the buck stops with the manager. He can either play his fully committed players and maybe even get beat. Or he could play his best players, as long as it is agreed by from the rest of the squad. If The tir na nog manager didnt play mcallister last saturday night, they wouldnt be in the championship. Thats the decision he obviously has to make. With scullion back this saturday, hes anothwer scoring threat so i wouldnt put it past tir na nog to cause a wee upset!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 06, 2007, 09:49:01 PM
It all boils down to one point. You have to choose the game you wish to play soccer or Gaelic? It is impossible to play them both together and quite harsh to expect the best of both worlds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on June 06, 2007, 11:06:16 PM
According to a text received, the Championship draw is as follows,

Ballymacnab v Pearse Og   ::)
Maghery V Killeavey
Dromintee or Newtown v Cross
Clans or Tir na nOg v Carrickcruppin or Clann Eireann

Anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 06, 2007, 11:09:21 PM
Rufus,
Your information is correct as the senior and junior draws are on the Orchard County Website.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 06, 2007, 11:17:34 PM
Ballymacnab v Pearse OG? what?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on June 07, 2007, 04:48:55 AM
"He has been training for 2-3  weeks so he may get a starting place on saturday night".     I think the season started just after christmas. This is where all the hard work is done and when scullion was getting the dollars for playing the so called beautiful game. If he wasn't there from the start then he wouldn't be in my team. But then again this may be why Tir Na Og have under achieved.

just been sitting back watchin winsamsoon, wat a slabber :P. so tirnanog should play all the boys who have been there all year?? i get your point to a certain time when i think to the mcalindens and several others who have been training all year with the clans  and for some strange reason not there on championship nite ??? ??? ???. Bet u wish they trained only last 2 weeks and were there on sat night... What bout sorting your own club out before tryin to pick another clubs team. Everyone in the county knows that only two men run the clans club and KNOWONE else has a word to say, (by the way they are father and son) :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 07, 2007, 08:14:54 AM
Ballyhegan defeated Middletown in the Mid Armagh B Championship Semi Final in An Port Mor last night by 4 points.

Good to see a very young team doing so well this year!

Terrible 1st half. 2 points a piece, but some fine scores in the 2nd half by both teams left the crowd a little happier leaving.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 07, 2007, 07:22:59 PM
Is it true that because of stone-throwing by youths at the Ceannaras last night a number of delegates had to leave the meeting and move their cars out onto the road?
If so, then this is a sad reflection on the County Boards decision to revamp the Athletic Grounds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 07, 2007, 10:01:51 PM
Would not be surprised Exile, can't believe plans for a new complex were not developed away from there.

Any word when the second round of the championship gets off, hopefully we get there first.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 07, 2007, 10:52:19 PM
Armagh true i would term a slabber as someone who butts into debates that do not really involve him aka your good self. You seem to have picked me up wrong. I am not attacking Tir Na Og i am talking about the whole soccer/Gaelic debate in general. I trully believe that players who have trained all year and abided by the rules of the management should start ahead of people who tun up for 3 weeks and have other agendas. In our off eason i would play soccer to keep fit until the Gaelic eason returns so you could say i use the game for selfish reasons.I couldn't care less about the soccer team i play for. These guys are using gaelic in the same way and you are sticking up for them. Then you have the ordacity to call me a slabber. The story with the Mc Alindens is an in house thing and that is where it will stay from my corner.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on June 08, 2007, 03:33:42 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 07, 2007, 10:52:19 PM
Armagh true i would term a slabber as someone who butts into debates that do not really involve him aka your good self. You seem to have picked me up wrong. I am not attacking Tir Na Og i am talking about the whole soccer/Gaelic debate in general. I trully believe that players who have trained all year and abided by the rules of the management should start ahead of people who tun up for 3 weeks and have other agendas. In our off eason i would play soccer to keep fit until the Gaelic eason returns so you could say i use the game for selfish reasons.I couldn't care less about the soccer team i play for. These guys are using gaelic in the same way and you are sticking up for them. Then you have the ordacity to call me a slabber. The story with the Mc Alindens is an in house thing and that is where it will stay from my corner.
winsamsoon when ur getting involved with our clubs in house details it does involve me. was just tryin to say get ur own house in order before you start critisising others. should be a good game on sat but just let both clubs look after their own politics. think every club has some.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 08, 2007, 10:00:16 AM
It still isn't registering with you is it. I AM NOT ATTACKING TIR NA OG. It just happens to be that they have good examples of my argument at the moment. All clubs have incidents and in my opinion they should keep them within their own club walls. We had too part company with a player because of the same situation he didn't feel he could give the Gaelic the full comittment so he had to make a choice. This is on some occassions not an easy choice to make but one that is necessary for both the greater good of the team and the individual player .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 08, 2007, 11:12:19 AM
QuoteIt still isn't registering with you is it. I AM NOT ATTACKING TIR NA OG. It just happens to be that they have good examples of my argument at the moment. All clubs have incidents and in my opinion they should keep them within their own club walls. We had too part company with a player because of the same situation he didn't feel he could give the Gaelic the full comittment so he had to make a choice. This is on some occassions not an easy choice to make but one that is necessary for both the greater good of the team and the individual player .

I understand totally where you are coming from with the whole soccer/gaelic thing but at the end of the day when it comes to the championship you need to field the best team available to you even if this means not starting the players who have trained all year. I heard all about the situation with the McAlindens and to be honest thought it was pretty harsh on the two players.

Is it true that use are trying to get most the players back that were told to leave?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 08, 2007, 03:26:53 PM
Any poster's from Sarsfield on the board?
What is happening about the player suspended from last year from St Pats?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stranworst on June 08, 2007, 06:26:39 PM
Odds on the weekend champ matches??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 08, 2007, 09:24:23 PM
How did the replay between Carrickcruppen and Clann Eireann go?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 08, 2007, 09:53:57 PM
The Bridge beat Annaghmore  - 1-16 to 0-6 or something like that.

Dull game. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 08, 2007, 10:17:55 PM
cruppen 5 12 clann eireann 1`14
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on June 08, 2007, 10:18:06 PM
Yeah that was the score alright, very dull game although I thought Silverbridge attacked very well especially in the first half and there numbers 10, 14 and 15 were all superb.  I will get a full match report up from our end later tonight or tomorrow
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 08, 2007, 10:44:53 PM
I actually thought we were a bit lack luster and when we missed the first two shots at target and it was 1 - 1 after about 10 minutes I thought it was going to be one of those nights!!!
The scorelline probably suggests it was a lot easier than it was because we were made work for every score. 
I thought our defence were excellent. 
Number 10 was Brendan Byrne I think, had his usual game.
Number 14 was Liam Campbell, usual self as well.
Number 15 was Padi Cummiskey (I think), only his second senior game, he did do very well. 


Quotecruppen 5 12 clann eireann 1`14
Feckin hell!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 09, 2007, 09:04:57 AM
carrickcruppen 5-12 clann eireann 1-15

obviously from a carrickcruppen perspective this was an excellent game of football from a TEAM! teamwork was the answer during the match last night and each and everyone of the lads fought like trojans and hunted in packs.

clann eireann had the ball in the net after 24 seconds of play. cruppen soon settled into the game and had been completely dominant by scoring 4 goals in a period of 8 or 9 minutes. most of the clann eireann scores had come from ryan henderson free kicks. cruppen went into half-time leading by seven points. peter loughran's 3rd goal came right at the start of the second half effectively ending the game as a contest.

jimmy mckee afforded clann eireann all of the 50/50 decisions in the second half and 5 henderson frees reduced the deficit to six points with 60 minutes played. cruppen added a further three points in injury time to leave 9 between the teams at the final whistle.

good entertaining game with cruppen playing the best football for a while! long may it continue!!!!!



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on June 09, 2007, 10:58:02 AM
heard that a player who came on for cross in the senior champ.on sunday night had played for their 2nd team in the intermediate championship this year,can someone play in two championships in the one year for two different teams?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 09, 2007, 11:14:19 AM
root apparantly they can providing they make the step up in grade.

he first played for the intermediate team, then the senior team.

if he played senior, then intermediate then crossmaglen would be in trouble!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stranworst on June 09, 2007, 08:39:56 PM
Clans Tir Na Og draw again... match in extra time
Title: Clan Na Gael 2-13 Portadown Tir Na Nog 0-20!
Post by: T Fearon on June 09, 2007, 09:40:07 PM
Woohooooooooooooooooooooooo ;D

Yes folks, my wee club confirmed its status tonight as N Armagh's finest by knocking ex All Ireland club finalists Clan Na Gael, (Diarmuid Mrasden, Bumpy O'Hagan et al) out  of the Armagh Championship in one of the best club games I've ever seen!

Great all round display by Portadown, but special mention must go to Mrak Mc Allister ( unstoppable pace), Paul Carville (exemplary free taking in spite of a leg injury) and David Turley (ex Armagh panellist and there's worse on Armagh's current panel).

Where were the BBC Cameras by the way? Probably covering some shite match in Tyrone >:(

Jimmy Smyth, Tidsy Mc Kerr, Colm Mc Kinstry, all the O'Hagans, Diarmuid Marsden, Neil Lennon.... can you hear me? You're boys took one hell of a beating! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 09, 2007, 09:54:53 PM
Is the St Pats and Cross match finished yet?
Title: Re: Clan Na Gael 2-13 Portadown Tir Na Nog 0-20!
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 09, 2007, 09:59:39 PM
Quoteone of the best club games I've ever seen!
Considering your not so regular contributions to the armagh club thread (did you notice there was one?) that doesn't say a lot!

I think this is the first time I've heard you mentioning your club without talking about amalgamating with someone else. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: banjoz on June 09, 2007, 10:39:51 PM
great result for tir na nog tonight but well done to both teams for a brilliant match which was played  in good spirit with the two sides concentrating on football.
Mc Allister for armagh if not celtic!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 09, 2007, 10:48:38 PM
St Pats won by about 12pts. Rory Robinson chickens out when McKeever headbutts opponent and only gets a yellow card .
St Pats must have some injuries , macken was playing his usual crap. How he gets A COUNTY jersey is byond most people.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on June 10, 2007, 12:51:04 AM
Fcuk off Tony  ;) Sorry I missed it though...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armoutsider on June 10, 2007, 03:11:43 AM
1st message   Tir na nog v Clans, great match, great result, lets keep it going.  Well done TuTu, well done TNN
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dexter on June 10, 2007, 09:37:26 AM
Well done Tir na nOg!
Nerve wrecking match. Boys could have dropped  their heads at several times eg the goals, late equaliser (Marsden 5mins in injury time), a couple of missed chances. But credit to mgt for keeping them focused on the next ball. The work done with Jim McGinness over the last couple of weeks seems to have given the boys a lot of confidence.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 10, 2007, 10:17:43 AM

Is tht Jim McGuinness if donegal and banned substances fame Seamie?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dexter on June 10, 2007, 11:15:41 AM
it certainly is Uladh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on June 10, 2007, 03:58:39 PM
Fair play to both team last night. Absolutely tremendous game of football played in the right spirit. It shows there isnt much between the two sides on the day!Carville didnt miss at all from frees even though he wasnt 50% fit! David turley again showed his experience with some unbelievable scores!I thought our defense throughout was superb and soaked up pretty much everything the clans had to offer even though there was a few heart stopping moments!As for mcalister, possibily the best performance ive seen in championship football from a teenager. Well done lads!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 10, 2007, 07:25:45 PM
An Port Mor lost to Cullaville in the Intermediate Championship and Whitecross were winning well against St Peter's at half-time.
Anyone know who won this game and also any league games in Armagh which were played this afternoon?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on June 10, 2007, 08:10:07 PM
So what happens TNN next time when the soccer boys dont turn up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PatDaly on June 10, 2007, 10:10:20 PM
Dromintee beat Newtown tonight in Crossmaglen in the Armagh championship.

Final Score Dromintee 0-11 Newtownhamilton 0-4

Kevin Dyas 4 points
Benny McArdle 2 points
Martin O'Rourke 2 points
Micheal O'Rourke 1 point
Aiden O'Rourke 1 point
Gareth O'Neill 1 point

Dromintee were winning 8 points to 0 points with only 2 minutes of the first half remaining. Newtown then got 2 quick points to leave Dromintee winning 9 - 2 at half-time. I don't think Crossmaglen have anything to worry about for the next round.
Title: Portydown members
Post by: fcuksake on June 10, 2007, 10:38:59 PM
Has a new internet cafe opened in Portydown ;) , or have they been handing out new computers on the main st. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 11, 2007, 02:06:02 AM
The hands go up. You have to take the defeat on the chin and wish Tir Na OG all the best in the next round. I thought they got their tactics spot on again but the clans should have known their game plan from the first game. I also thought the referee awarded free kicks to Tir Na Og for some very soft challenges, They were not awarded the other way around. However Tir Na Og were clinical in their finishing and this was the difference. I think they had 24 shots on target and scored 20 of them. This alone would win most championship games. So good luck to them in the next round.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 11, 2007, 08:18:59 AM
Whitecross beat St Peters by about a dozen points.

Best man on show yesterday in Abbey Park was the Cullaville 14 - Ciaran Hatzer I think.  He won every single ball that went into him and most of them were despatched pretty efficiently over the bar.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 11, 2007, 08:49:27 AM
Fair play to Tir Na nOg they probably deserved their victory espically over the two games and i hope they go on and beat Cruppin in the quarters. f**king woke up several times during sat night in a sweat about that match (hoping it was just a bad dream/nightmare) but on sunday morning reality sunk in :'( :'(, Tell ya what it's not much better this morning either :'( :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on June 11, 2007, 09:12:50 AM
I'm hoping for a showdown with Maghery...we owe them big time for the 1983 semi final robbery. ;D

Incidentally very impressed with Maghery facilities. Scoreboard with the time countdown is brilliant and far exceeds that at most County grounds. One point though, there's not much point in having turnstiles built when you can watch the game for free 20 yards on up the hill. And before anyone asks, I paid my fiver on Saturday night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 11, 2007, 09:21:21 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 11, 2007, 09:12:50 AM
I'm hoping for a showdown with Maghery...we owe them big time for the 1983 semi final robbery. ;D

Incidentally very impressed with Maghery facilities. Scoreboard with the time countdown is brilliant and far exceeds that at most County grounds. One point though, there's not much point in having turnstiles built when you can watch the game for free 20 yards on up the hill. And before anyone asks, I paid my fiver on Saturday night

Sure you did Tony ::) Everyone knows your not tight with money ::) I seen you sitting on that Galvanised Barrier with your sun glasses on "Tight git" :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on June 11, 2007, 09:37:16 AM
It was great to see the "Lowergun" ones exit the ground pronto when the referee sounded the final whistle on Saturday night. The first time I've ever seen a Lurgan crowd silent or stuck for words! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on June 11, 2007, 09:57:57 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on June 11, 2007, 08:18:59 AM
Whitecross beat St Peters by about a dozen points.

Best man on show yesterday in Abbey Park was the Cullaville 14 - Ciaran Hatzer I think.  He won every single ball that went into him and most of them were despatched pretty efficiently over the bar.

did hatzer not have a short stint on the county panel a few years back?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 11, 2007, 10:17:37 AM
From orchard county


ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 10 JUNE 2007


Wednesday 6 June

ACL – Division III
Clady 0-9; Tullysaran 0-9


Friday 8 June

Senior Football Championship Replay
Carrickcruppen 5-13; Clann Eireann 1-14

ACL – Division II
Silverbridge 1-16; Annaghmore 0-6

Division III
Ballyhegan 1-7; Lissummon 1-17
Clonmore v Middletown (Off)

Division IV
Derrynoose 1-5 ; Belleek 1-7
O'Hanlon's 2-9 ; Mullaghbrack 4-15
Corrinshego 0-7; Forkhill 0-15


Saturday 9 June

Senior Football Championship Replay
Clan na Gael 2-13; Tir na nÓg 0-20 (aet)

Intermediate Football Championship Quarter-final
Crossmaglen II 0-6; St Patrick's 1-16


Sunday 10 June

Senior Football Championship Replay
Dromintee 0-11; St Michael's 0-4

Intermediate Football Championship Quarter-finals
Culloville 1-17; An Port Mor 0-11
St Peter's 2-6; Whitecross 2-16

ACL – Division I
Mullaghbawn 0-12; Crossmaglen 0-15

ACL – Division II
Keady 0-12; Killeavey 2-11

ACL – Division III
Collegeland v Middletown (Off)
Sarsfields 5-15; Clady 0-9
Tullysaran 0-11; Clonmore 1-7

ACL – Division IV
Belleek v Mullaghbrack (Off)
Dorsey Emmett's v Derrynoose (Off)
Eire Og 3-14; Phelim Brady's 1-4
Shane O'Neill's v Grange (Off)



ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 8 7 0 1 14
Mullaghbawn 6 3 1 2 7
Pearse Og 6 3 1 2 7
Clan na Gael 5 2 2 1 6
Dromintee 5 3 0 2 6
Maghery 5 2 1 2 5
Whitecross 5 2 0 3 4
Culloville 6 1 1 4 3
Harps 6 1 1 4 3
Tir na nÓg 6 1 1 4 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
Killeavey 8 7 0 1 14
Silverbridge 7 6 0 1 12
St Patrick's 5 5 0 0 10
Carrickcruppen 5 4 0 1 8
St Michael's 6 3 0 3 6
Ballymacnab 7 3 0 4 6
Clann Eireann 5 2 0 3 4
Annaghmore 7 2 0 5 4
Keady 7 1 1 5 3
Wolfe Tones 7 1 1 5 3
Granemore 5 1 0 4 2
St Peter's 5 1 0 4 2

Division III
P W D L Pts
Madden 6 6 0 0 12
An Port Mor 7 6 0 1 12
Collegeland 7 5 0 2 10
Sarsfields 7 5 0 2 10
Lissummon 7 4 0 3 8
Ballyhegan 6 3 0 3 6
Tullysaran 8 2 2 4 6
St Paul's 6 2 1 3 5
Middletown 4 2 0 2 4
Clonmore 6 1 0 5 2
Clady 8 0 2 6 2
Crossmaglen II 6 0 1 5 1

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Grange 5 5 0 0 10
Eire Og 7 5 0 2 10
Derrynoose 6 4 0 2 8
Forkhill 6 4 0 2 8
Mullaghbrack 6 4 0 2 8
Shane O'Neill's 4 3 1 0 7
Belleek 5 3 0 2 6
Dorsey Emmett's 6 2 2 2 6
O'Hanlon's 7 1 1 5 3
Corrinshego 8 1 0 7 2
Phelim Brady's 8 0 0 8 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on June 11, 2007, 10:21:51 AM
Quote from: fcuksake on June 11, 2007, 09:57:57 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on June 11, 2007, 08:18:59 AM
Whitecross beat St Peters by about a dozen points.

Best man on show yesterday in Abbey Park was the Cullaville 14 - Ciaran Hatzer I think.  He won every single ball that went into him and most of them were despatched pretty efficiently over the bar.

did hatzer not have a short stint on the county panel a few years back?

Hatzer plays hurling and was on the county panel for some time, he is a good keeper in hurling but i think he also plays outfield.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 11, 2007, 11:41:35 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 11, 2007, 09:12:50 AM
I'm hoping for a showdown with Maghery...we owe them big time for the 1983 semi final robbery. ;D

Incidentally very impressed with Maghery facilities. Scoreboard with the time countdown is brilliant and far exceeds that at most County grounds.

2 points...

you would have no idea what facilities are like in other grounds in the coouny

you obviously have no idea that the quarter final draw is already made.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 11, 2007, 11:57:04 AM
Tir na nÓg Vs Clan na Gael tonight in the B Championship, will the outcome be the same as saturday ;D ;D? What are clan na gaels B team like?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on June 11, 2007, 12:34:39 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on June 11, 2007, 11:57:04 AM
Tir na nÓg Vs Clan na Gael tonight in the B Championship, will the outcome be the same as saturday ;D ;D? What are clan na gaels B team like?

maybe bumpy will play lol sure thats him finished now!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 11, 2007, 01:15:50 PM
Quote from: Bainisteoir on June 11, 2007, 12:34:39 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on June 11, 2007, 11:57:04 AM
Tir na nÓg Vs Clan na Gael tonight in the B Championship, will the outcome be the same as saturday ;D ;D? What are clan na gaels B team like?

maybe bumpy will play lol sure thats him finished now!!

Seriously you's guy's are funny, you's win one championship match (and deserved and probably the first time ever beating the clans in a senior championship game) and you would think that you's had just won the championship. We all know that that was your final, Porty have a good chance of beating Cruppin but thats it your final was on Saturday night. Thats the difference between the two clubs if we had have won there would not have been banging on the changing room walls and the singing we would just have accepted the win and move onto the next game, but i suppose taking the scalp of a big team with champioship tradition was worth a we celebration.

As for the B-Championsip game tonight, who knows what the outcome will be. The Clans B-team have not been beaten yet (but they have only played 4 games) but B football is unpredictable.

As for Bumpy, why do you slag him off. We all know he's not the most liked person in the county (even within his own club) but there is not a club team in Ireland that would not refuse his services. Over the last 12 years or so you tell me any club player in armagh that was better than Bumpy?. (and before you's all start me and Bumpy don't even get on that well, you just have to call a spade a spade).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 11, 2007, 01:47:07 PM
Lads i can't understand how anyone would gloat about another player retiring from gaelic football. Bumpy has contributed a lot to Armagh club football over the years. If it is a personality thing then i am sure he wouldn't care much for you guys either but at least give the man his respect for his performances on the pitch. By the way the season is not over yet there are still a lot of league matches to be settled.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 11, 2007, 02:18:48 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on June 09, 2007, 10:48:38 PM
Rory Robinson chickens out when McKeever headbutts opponent and only gets a yellow card .

Heard that, if Robinson didnt see it, why did he book him?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 11, 2007, 02:27:38 PM
As winsamsoon said there are still plenty of league games to be settled, Saturday was a good win for us but we have to concentrate now on the league. Make sure that we get a few wins to take us out of the relegation zone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 11, 2007, 02:31:49 PM
looking at the league tables above, has anyone any predictions on who will drop from Div 1 this year??? who will gain promotion to the top flight... ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on June 11, 2007, 02:39:51 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 11, 2007, 01:47:07 PM
Lads i can't understand how anyone would gloat about another player retiring from gaelic football. Bumpy has contributed a lot to Armagh club football over the years. If it is a personality thing then i am sure he wouldn't care much for you guys either but at least give the man his respect for his performances on the pitch. By the way the season is not over yet there are still a lot of league matches to be settled.

I was only slagging,i would openly admit to anyone that bumpy has been the best armagh club footballer for years, hes a credit to himself with regards to comittment for his club even though he may be a hateful whore on the pitch ;) because he was so f**king good... Will that be him finished now? no offence intended by the way lads an honest question!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 11, 2007, 02:41:53 PM
I fancy Cullaville and Whitecross to go down and Killeavy and the Bridge to come up.

Dromintee had it handy against Newtown, a very poor outfit. Contest was over after 20 minutes when Dromintee went 8-0 up.

Hoghlight of the match was ther Newtown Keepers run to the half way line with the ball. Newtown employed some dirty tactics.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on June 11, 2007, 02:55:38 PM
I dont think the tir na nog lads were celebrating as if they had won the championship, they know that they have won nothing but its just the fact that they beat the clans who seem to have taken an arrogant approach to both games. As people are saying, tir na nog deserved their victory but credit must go down to both teams as it was blow for blow for the two matches and one of the best club matches ive seen in recent years, and thats nothing to do with us winning! The only problem is whether tir na nog can gain some kind of consistency now and perform like that in a regular basis. The talent is there,its just a question on whether they want to use it or not!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 11, 2007, 03:12:23 PM
Full Back ........the ref saw what happened but armagh play on july 7 so end of story.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on June 11, 2007, 03:50:58 PM
Quote from: corn02 on June 11, 2007, 02:41:53 PM

Dromintee had it handy against Newtown, a very poor outfit. Contest was over after 20 minutes when Dromintee went 8-0 up.

Hoghlight of the match was ther Newtown Keepers run to the half way line with the ball. Newtown employed some dirty tactics.

Corn, Dromintee were no doubt the better team over the hour.  However, they won the match in the first 15 minutes and things were pretty even after that, it just looked like Dromintee were much better because they always had a big lead.  For the last 45 minutes of the match it was 4 points apiece!

I agree that the keepers run in the second half was great, he was playing corner forward for Newtown in the drawn match so he is no stranger to that end of the field.  However I disagree that Newtown employed dirty tactics.  One of the Newtown players got a suspected broken nose in the first 5 minutes of the match, no punishment was the outcome.  Brendan Gorman generally takes no shit, however he is the most biased ref in the county towards county and former county players and I felt that he showed this last night.

As for that kn**ker McKeever and Cullyhanna generally, headbutting is what they are brought up on and its just second nature to them at this stage.  I would have expected more from Rory Robinson, but he's just shown himself up to be as gutless as alot of other ref's in the county, he might get a telling off from the county board if he was to send off a county kn**ker star. >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 11, 2007, 04:04:44 PM
Quote from: Bainisteoir on June 11, 2007, 02:39:51 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 11, 2007, 01:47:07 PM
Lads i can't understand how anyone would gloat about another player retiring from gaelic football. Bumpy has contributed a lot to Armagh club football over the years. If it is a personality thing then i am sure he wouldn't care much for you guys either but at least give the man his respect for his performances on the pitch. By the way the season is not over yet there are still a lot of league matches to be settled.

I was only slagging,i would openly admit to anyone that bumpy has been the best armagh club footballer for years, hes a credit to himself with regards to comittment for his club even though he may be a hateful whore on the pitch ;) because he was so f**king good... Will that be him finished now? no offence intended by the way lads an honest question!!

The answer to that is "more than likley", he is 33 now and you can't expect him to still travel from donegal 3 times a week (2 training sessions and a match) He has been doing that for the last 4 years. I know i couldn't have done it "Fair play to him"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on June 11, 2007, 04:55:28 PM
Back to Tir Na Nog's stunning defeat of Clan na Gael, is Philip Oldham the dirtiest club player in Armagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2007, 05:49:16 PM
six inch nail, its incredibale, you type just like you talk!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on June 11, 2007, 05:53:57 PM
i was talkin to rory robinson last tues nite and he was telling me how he didint care about county stars and would send them off no problem referring to a game a few years back when a county player said not to send him off.

very consistant rory!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 11, 2007, 05:54:52 PM
Quoteis Philip Oldham the dirtiest club player in Armagh?

Where did that come from?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 11, 2007, 06:09:21 PM
Six Inch Nail, terrible match wasn't it? I realise what you are saying regarding the 4-4 for the last forty minutes but I felt Dromintee could easily of upped a gear or two if Newtown got within four or five points.

I take it the incident was the one in front of the subs bench about the suspected broken nose? It was a heavy clash but was not malicious I was right in front of it. Newtown had there own eyes on a county player and took every chance to put the boot in on him. We saw the usual craic with a ref by the way. Newtown man on a yellow, misbehaves again - definite second yellow. The ref comes over to give and then relaises he has already a yellow and ticks him instead. This is one thing I hate from referees and I am sure Dromintee boys have got off with it too. If the referee sees it as a yellow card offence have the balls to give it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 11, 2007, 06:52:23 PM
Has anyone checked out Armagh web site recently..............crap
So come on Paddy og get off your feckin ass and earn your wages.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 11, 2007, 10:15:52 PM
Why not make the Orchardcounty.com the Official Armagh website as it is the only one that gives fixtures, results, tables, etc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 11, 2007, 11:06:25 PM
spot on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2007, 11:13:39 PM
because the posters on the site are an embarrassment.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 12, 2007, 12:34:09 AM
Spot on POG, I have tried a few times to post and it never seems to work, now I just accept that it would be pointless anyway because I think you have to be between the ages of 7 and 11 to post on it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 12, 2007, 09:20:26 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E TUESDAY 19 JUNE 2007


Monday 11 June

Intermediate Football Championship Quarter-final (7.30)
Madden v Wolfe Tones (Dessie McDonnell) at Ballyhegan


Tuesday 12 June

Junior Football Championship Quarter-final (7.30)
Derrynoose v Middletown (Gary Smith) at Granemore

ACL – Division II (8.00)
Carrickcruppen v Silverbridge (Sean McClelland)


Friday 15 June

Junior Football Championship Quarter-finals (7.30)
Collegeland v Eire Og (Jim Burns) at Derrytrasna
Clady v Grange (Martin Traynor) at Mullaghbrack

ACL – Division I (8.00)
Whitecross v Tir na nÓg (Jim Lynch)
Crossmaglen v Culloville (Rory Robinson)
Dromintee v Pearse Og (Barney Henry)
Maghery v Harps (Paudie Hughes)
Mullaghbawn v Clan na Gael (Jim Slevin)

ACL – Division II (8.00)
Ballymacnab v Keady (Frank McDonald)
Granemore v Clann Eireann (Vincent O'Neill)
Killeavey v St Patrick's (Seamus O'Neill)
St Michael's v Wolfe Tones (Seamus Falloon)
St Peter's v Annaghmore (Sean McClatchey)

ACL – Division III (8.00)
Clonmore v Sarsfields (Patrick Duffy)
Madden v An Port Mor (Paul Seacroft)
Middletown v Tullysaran (Eamon Nugent)
St Paul's v Ballyhegan (Tony O'Hare)

ACL – Division IV (8.00)
Forkhill v Belleek (Kevin McNeice)
O'Hanlon's v Corrinshego (Henry McCloy)


Saturday 16 June

Junior Football Championship Quarter-final (7.30)
Dorsey Emmett's v Mullaghbrack (Mickey Leonard) at Whitecross


Tuesday 19 June

ACL – Division II (8.00)
Silverbridge v Clann Eireann (Tony O'Hare)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 12, 2007, 09:21:26 AM
Whats the reason for there being no league fixtures for this Sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 12, 2007, 09:35:15 AM
Presumably the minor game against Tyrone
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 12, 2007, 09:38:02 AM
Your correct Brokencrossbar1.  Never thought of that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: jungle on June 12, 2007, 10:21:18 AM
Anyone hear result of wolfe tones v madden?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on June 12, 2007, 10:52:20 AM
Back Culloville for a massive upset v Cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 12, 2007, 11:03:27 AM
Quote from: thebandit on June 12, 2007, 10:52:20 AM
Back Culloville for a massive upset v Cross
why do ye think that bandit??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on June 12, 2007, 11:08:23 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2007, 05:49:16 PM
six inch nail, its incredibale, you type just like you talk!

Pints, what exactly do you mean?  Besides, one has to keep up certain standards, doesn't one?

Corn I was talking about the incident you mentioned, I suppose you could argue that there wasn't alot of malice, but it was fairly high.  You're right about the match, it was shit, I'm sure from a Dromintee point of view the start was good viewing (and even from a netural's point of view), however the remaining 40 minutes were brutal.  I'm not going to get into a row with you about Martin O'Rourke, but he is a nasty bit of work and draws players out to the last.  He is constantly looking to wind players up, take the incident in the second half when the Newtown midfielder give him abit of a clip on the ground disguised as a tackle.  O'Rourke got up after he got abit of treatment and followed the player the whole way into the full forward line mouthing.  The Newtown player was already booked and O'Rourke was trying to get a rise from the player and a red card, don't like him.

I agree with you about refs not having the balls to do the right thing just because someone is on a card already.

As for Orchard County.  A great website, but most of the posters on it probably weren't even around to remember Armagh winning the All Ireland in 2002!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 12, 2007, 11:18:47 AM
Heard Wolfe Tones won although no idea of score

As regards Orchard County.com, great website for fixtures, results etc, but as POG said the posters on it are a joke. It is like a primary/secondary school class talking to each other. One of the gems  on it this week is Orchard County Virtual Blind Dates ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 12, 2007, 11:58:09 AM
F***ing beat by Porty again (B championship semi final), what is going on with the clans. Ref sent our best player of after 15 seconds :'( :'(
Dunno where T Fearon got that about P Oldham, you must have the wrong guy. Probably the softest player we have :D (and i'm not joking) :D :D Oldham dirty :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 12, 2007, 12:23:55 PM

Better Display from Dromintee in the first half this week when they went at Newtown. Dyas, Aidan and Shannon showed what they can do when they attack but the lads are very frustrating whenever they don't do this. The game was over a half time and dromintee never did a stroke in the second period. the three lads above never left their own 50 and it was very hard to watch. cross would have gone on and won by 15 points and maybe thats the difference in the two teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on June 12, 2007, 12:24:58 PM
Wolfe Tone 2-09 Madden 0-13
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 12, 2007, 12:28:36 PM
six inch as i read  about your third post on this board your face popped into my head and i could see you saying every word. and you've confirmed since then that you are that person. unreal. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on June 12, 2007, 12:45:07 PM
ANy time I see Clans play, and its rare enough I would confess, big Oldham seems to be squaring for a fight. Thats why I reckon hime to be dirty.

It is now official! Black Portydown is now the Gaelic Capital of a N Armagh, ruling Lurgan ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on June 12, 2007, 12:55:50 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 12, 2007, 12:28:36 PM
six inch as i read  about your third post on this board your face popped into my head and i could see you saying every word. and you've confirmed since then that you are that person. unreal. 

Am I that obvious Pints?  Well aren't you the real Sherlock Holmes.  You're proving to be abit more elusive though, although I'd be quite sure that I put the Pints theory to you a couple of times and you denied it, just like St. Peter, except that you're denying yourself ;).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 12, 2007, 01:03:05 PM
QuoteF***ing beat by Porty again

Better start getting used to it  :P ;D :P ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 12, 2007, 01:15:04 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 12, 2007, 12:45:07 PM
ANy time I see Clans play, and its rare enough I would confess, big Oldham seems to be squaring for a fight. Thats why I reckon hime to be dirty.

He'd be a stand up with the chest out merchant making shapes but wouldn't actually fight. i wouldn't consider him dirty either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 12, 2007, 01:21:41 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 12, 2007, 12:45:07 PM
ANy time I see Clans play, and its rare enough I would confess, big Oldham seems to be squaring for a fight. Thats why I reckon hime to be dirty.

It is now official! Black Portydown is now the Gaelic Capital of a N Armagh, ruling Lurgan ;D

Right young Fearon i'm gonna tell you a short story. Once upon a time there was a team from the outskirts of Lurgan who actually beat Clan na Gael in a north Armagh cup match. they banged on the walls of the changing rooms and sang like larks "Who's the Daddy of North Armagh" was their tune. Now 2 years later they are relegated and couldn't score with your wife (only joking) but you get my drift.

so the moral of the story is Clan na Gael have tradition and will bounce back, one win in a senior championship game does not make you the Daddy. and as for North Armagh we don't even think along them lines, our aim is to be the best in Armagh (although Cross would need nuked for that to happen). thats the difference with teams that have tradition such as Clans and Harps etc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 12, 2007, 01:27:54 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 12, 2007, 01:21:41 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 12, 2007, 12:45:07 PM
ANy time I see Clans play, and its rare enough I would confess, big Oldham seems to be squaring for a fight. Thats why I reckon hime to be dirty.

It is now official! Black Portydown is now the Gaelic Capital of a N Armagh, ruling Lurgan ;D

Right young Fearon i'm gonna tell you a short story. Once upon a time there was a team from the outskirts of Lurgan who actually beat Clan na Gael in a north Armagh cup match. they banged on the walls of the changing rooms and sang like larks "Who's the Daddy of North Armagh" was their tune. Now 2 years later they are relegated and couldn't score with your wife (only joking) but you get my drift.

so the moral of the story is Clan na Gael have tradition and will bounce back, one win in a senior championship game does not make you the Daddy. and as for North Armagh we don't even think along them lines, our aim is to be the best in Armagh (although Cross would need nuked for that to happen). thats the difference with teams that have tradition such as Clans and Harps etc.

Careful illdecide, any more of that & the big man might up sticks and leave ;)

Any team worth their salt doesnt want to be called the best team in a certain area of Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 12, 2007, 01:41:38 PM
To be fair though...have the Clans anything coming through??

Clans best players all seem to be well into their thirties!!

- I know Portydown is fairly young outfit...on the otherhand!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 12, 2007, 01:51:11 PM
It will be hard to bounce back if use lose bumpy, can't see there being any forwards on the current squad who could replace him. Both for influence and ability. Bumpy would probably get use what? 8 or 9 points per game? Whoever comes in for him will have some huge boots to fill!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 12, 2007, 02:16:32 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 12, 2007, 01:21:41 PM
thats the difference with teams that have tradition such as Clans and Harps etc.

A complete myth in the modern game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on June 12, 2007, 03:09:18 PM
the tones beat madden by 3 points, scoreline flattering them. madden were 6 points up with 16minutes left and didnt kick home. Tones first goal should have been a free out, maddens corner back had two hands on the ball and the second was a point attempt which dropped in when the sides were level. But then again, points win matches, goals win championships. I would have said madden were the better team on the day and wolfe tones will struggle to go any furthur. But the league is still there for the taking, 6 games won out of 6. Big top of the table clash with por mor.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 12, 2007, 03:11:52 PM
I see the Bridge got the big game in the next round of the Championship, Cross v Dromintee
POG will be happy after giving out that they dont get any big games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on June 12, 2007, 03:12:10 PM
Clans tradition is like that of Down's...something for the faithful to pine for in dark days when a neighbour is reigning supreme, but it counts for nothing the modern game.Maghery and Tir Na Nog are now the pace setters in N.Armagh ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on June 12, 2007, 03:13:33 PM
Whats the dates/venues for the other quarter finals?

Presumably N Armagh's top team will be playing Cruppen in Armagh City?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 12, 2007, 03:39:41 PM
Cross v Dromintee in the Bridge
Cruppen v Tir na Nog in Abbey Park
Killeavey v Maghery in the 'Nab
'Nab v Pearse Og in Keady

Dont think there are any dates yet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 12, 2007, 03:43:21 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 12, 2007, 03:13:33 PM
Whats the dates/venues for the other quarter finals?

Presumably N Armagh's top team will be playing Cruppen in Armagh City?

Tony you keep talking and i'll keep shovelling :D, we have some exceptional minors coming through who seem (at the minute) committed to the cause. so the future looks better than you's lads think 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 12, 2007, 03:50:55 PM
With all due respect to Tir na nOg when push comes to shove I would rather play them than the Clans in a big championship game.  Clans are going througha hard time at the minute and with Bumpy retiring and Marsden getting older it will be tough for them.  They need to look at their club structure, but they are no different than Cross were in the late 80's.  We couldn't buy a championship win then but we all know what happened.  Well done to portadown but don't lose the run of yourselves.

As for Philly Oldham being dirty, I know of maybe descriptions for him but dirty would not be one of them ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on June 12, 2007, 03:59:17 PM
In fairness, no one from Portadown would expect us to live with Cross in a Champinship game, yet the team has potential. They showed no fear of Clan nc Gael in either of the games, and were strong all over the field, with forwards who can take scores, win possession and a free taker that's the match of anyone in Armagh, including Oisin and Aaron Kernan, in my opinion.

Also, victory over Clans was secured without Brian  Mallon! I think we are as well equipped as any team in Armagh with the obvious exception of Crossmaglen of course.

Then again, maybe we shouldn't be too surprised about the win over Clans. After all they were a division two side two years ago, and we were County U21 Champions just three short years ago ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on June 12, 2007, 04:00:30 PM
I totally agree with what your saying that one win in the championship doesnt mean that wee rule the roost..it certainly doesn't. I just think that a game like that (sorry two games like that) will do all of our young players a lot of good in terms of a test of character. I think the hungrier side won on saturday night and to be honest, i havent seen a side from tir na nog as well organised in 10 years. When going through the team:
Tony marley-19
chris mcdonald-22
pierce mcdonald-20
steven mccann-20
barry mcdonald-23
gavin cusack-21
ciaran tiffney-21
paul carville-21
david scullion-23
kieran mccann-23
mark mcalister-19
james donnelly-17/18

And this isnt to mention our county player brian mallon who is also 22!

All these players played in those two games and when you look at the average age, its rather frightening to think that they give an experienced clan na gael side who hadnt one player under 21 on the pitch, all they wanted. The big problem is though, keeping the team together,keeping them off the drink, and making gaelic football their main priority.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 12, 2007, 04:04:43 PM
Don't mean to be petty but Brian Mallon could not still be 22!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on June 12, 2007, 04:07:15 PM
He would be, maybe 23 tops.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on June 12, 2007, 04:07:44 PM
QuoteDon't mean to be petty but Brian Mallon could not still be 22!

that's the whole attraction of life in Tír na nÓg, you never grow old!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on June 12, 2007, 04:11:17 PM
Lol! ;D

I think the team should have a new nickname after Saturday Night in Maghery....Midget Gems! ;D

or the Lough Neagh Lions! (Appropriate as we have one player who turned down Celtic).

I only hope Saturday night isn't a false dawn, in the early 80s we had a team with potential, winning the Intermediate in 80, beaten by a point in the Senior Semi Finals in 1981 (I recall a marathon game that went to a couple of replays with Harps in the first round that year) and 1983, then more or less disappeared for 15 years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 12, 2007, 04:18:04 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 12, 2007, 04:11:17 PM
Lol! ;D

I think the team should have a new nickname after Saturday Night in Maghery....Midget Gems! ;D

or the Lough Neagh Lions! (Appropriate as we have one player who turned down Celtic).

I only hope Saturday night isn't a false dawn, in the early 80s we had a team with potential, winning the Intermediate in 80, beaten by a point in the Senior Semi Finals in 1981 (I recall a marathon game that went to a couple of replays with Harps in the first round that year) and 1983, then more or less disappeared for 15 years.
One hit wonders possibly...  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on June 12, 2007, 04:18:59 PM
I think with Ronan McAlinden taking the team, though hes still very young, reports from the players say that hes a very good coach and great tactician and with Brain Neeson behind him,theres also a bit of discipline there too. Hopefully the boys can get themsleves up for the carrickcruppen game just as much as they did against the clans. It will be a completely different match though, they wont be underdogs this time and this i feel is one of our falling points. ie, getting beat by weaker teams.
on the subject of celtic, i was happy as larry that he played on saturday night, but being a celtic fan, i just can't come to terms of how stupid he was! ;D
Anyone know when the quarter finals will be played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on June 12, 2007, 04:24:11 PM
The real pity is that Mc Allister and Scullion will be lost to soccer again, all too soon. Glentoran and Dungannon will be starting pre season training shortly. On the other hand , Brian Mallon may be available for some stage of the Championship.`

Its vital also that the Reds stay in Division 1 as well, in my opinion, among the elite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on June 12, 2007, 04:27:53 PM
They could still play if the matches are on sunday but i doubt they would be able to train all the time which is a real pity. I was takling to brians father, charlie, last week and he was saying that biran isnt too far away and that hes training away but in non contact terms. Would be a big boost for tir na nog, and probably more importantly, Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 12, 2007, 05:59:29 PM
Quotewe have some exceptional minors coming through who seem (at the minute) committed to the cause. so the future looks better than you's lads think

Considering over the last maybe 4 or 5 years tir na nog have lost maybe once to clan na gael at u16 and minor, i doubt they will have much to worry about in the future!! Just the other week tir na nog beat the u16s by 27?

Next round of the championship is on 20th July
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 12, 2007, 06:24:14 PM
six inch. what do you mean you've put the pints theory to me? i doubt i'm not who you think i am!  full back, i wasn't complaining the bridge weren't getting championship games i was saying they should be spread out among the clubs more.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 12, 2007, 10:09:58 PM
cruppen beat the bridge by 2 tonight. heard we lost it in the second half and in the middle of the field. missed a goal in the last seconds. f**k it anyway!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 12, 2007, 11:38:33 PM
pints - bridge seemed to run out of steam in the second half!

you lot played a very high tempo game in the first half and at one stage led by 7 or 8 points! cruppen got a goal just before half time that left 5 between the teams at the break.

bridge only scored 2 points in the second half (free kicks) cruppen got kept plugging away and thoroughly deserved the victory on the second half performance! damien hamill in midfield was immense!

who is your number 13? tricky, fast and can take a score!
what did the ref do on you in the championship heard alot of the bridge ones crying at him after the match and a certain player told him that he would smash his f**king face in!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 12, 2007, 11:46:30 PM
number 13 would be young eugene byrne. only 18 or so and a fine player already. i heard him and his brother brendan were our best. we play high tempo game all the time. heard ref was shite for us and if it's same one we had against st peters he let them away with any amount of dirt and give straight red to one of our players for nothing more than a late shoulder.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 12, 2007, 11:49:11 PM
On the issue of Brian Mallon lads, he is no doubt a quality player but he wouldn't fit into the game plan that Tir Na nog plated against the clans. What they did was simply isolated Mc Allister and sucked the rest of the players out about 40 yards.The ball was then pumped into the space for Mc Allister. This tactic proved to be successful but Brian would play more runnng game with the ball and it may just upset the current game plan. But he is a decent player no doubt.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on June 12, 2007, 11:52:30 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 12, 2007, 11:46:30 PM
number 13 would be young eugene byrne. only 18 or so and a fine player already. i heard him and his brother brendan were our best. we play high tempo game all the time. heard ref was shite for us and if it's same one we had against st peters he let them away with any amount of dirt and give straight red to one of our players for nothing more than a late shoulder.

the tackle on stephan murphy tonight in the first ten minutes which nearly knocked him out was alot worse than mc canns tackle in the championship. again where is the consistancy??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 12, 2007, 11:55:04 PM
what exactly happened stephen? heard he got an awful blow. sure what do you expect of someone who watches someone get a thump in the face, do nothing and send him off 10 seconds later for a late shoulder.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on June 12, 2007, 11:58:45 PM
he was runnin out with the ball and went to turn and avoid the oncoming man who proceeded to shoulder him in the face. stephan just straightened up and collapsed to the ground like he was unconscious. luckily he was able to walk off the field and it was good to see him on the line encouraging the boys once he regained himself. stephan was also captaining the team tonight so it was even more of a pity to see him come off so early
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 13, 2007, 08:21:16 AM
inthemaking, was young conlon playing for Silverbridge last night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 13, 2007, 08:27:28 AM
wasn't at your championship match so cannot comment on the tackle that mccann made that warranted his red card.

the incident which murphy got injured was nothing more than a mis-timed challenge and a yellow card offense at the most so mccann can rightly feel aggrieved if this challenge was worse than his.

the number 14 could be in trouble for his comments to the ref! in fairness the ref was equally as bad for us last night as he was for the bridge.

wasn;t impressed with your umpire who refused one of our lads a drink of water! that's bad sport!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 13, 2007, 08:34:08 AM
conlon wasn't playing last night, wasn't togged out and i don;t even think i seen him there!

whats the story there lads! he is a class act too along with eugene byrne would definitely turn most defences inside out!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 13, 2007, 08:38:35 AM
conlon is not with us anymore. of course our player will be in trouble we'll not get off lightly. dunno who umpire was but if it's the usual fella i'd be shocked he done that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on June 13, 2007, 08:48:05 AM
any news on clarke and mallon
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 13, 2007, 08:55:07 AM
pints if it helps you any he was umpiring the goals at the social club end of carrickcruppen!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 13, 2007, 09:13:22 AM
was the middletown derrynoose championship match rained off last nite!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 13, 2007, 09:18:47 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 12, 2007, 11:49:11 PM
On the issue of Brian Mallon lads, he is no doubt a quality player but he wouldn't fit into the game plan that Tir Na nog plated against the clans.

He's a decent passer also...he wouldn't have weakened them!

I think you've taken a year off a few lads there...wee Brian would be 23, McCann & McDoo would both be 24.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 13, 2007, 09:28:30 AM
Brian will be 24 in 2months
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on June 13, 2007, 10:04:45 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on June 13, 2007, 09:13:22 AM
was the middletown derrynoose championship match rained off last nite!?

Derrynoose won by 4 points, the score was something like 3-8 to 0-13. It was a poor enough game although the conditions didn't help. Derrynoose were probably deserving winners, they led 2-5 to 0-5 at half time. Middletown came back into it more in the second half but Derrynoose just did enough to hold on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 13, 2007, 10:41:35 AM
Can anyone confirm the rumours John Toal has done his knee in again and has "retired" from football? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: joebloggs on June 13, 2007, 10:59:54 AM
where is that lad conlon now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 13, 2007, 11:49:46 AM
I never said Brian Mallon would weaken the team i said he would upset the current system that they have adopted because he would play a more passing kind of game rather than direct football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 13, 2007, 12:01:22 PM
Probably more rumours here, but did anyone hear Clarke suffered another setback in his recovery?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on June 13, 2007, 12:03:01 PM
Quote from: Candyman on June 13, 2007, 10:41:35 AM
Can anyone confirm the rumours John Toal has done his knee in again and has "retired" from football? ???

I heard a few weeks back that he need another operation on his knee, didn't hear he'd retired.  Think its just an op to tidy the knee up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on June 13, 2007, 12:13:42 PM
Quote from: full back on June 13, 2007, 12:01:22 PM
Probably more rumours here, but did anyone hear Clarke suffered another setback in his recovery?

He was at training last week, but Oisin and him spent most of the night with the physio.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 13, 2007, 12:14:37 PM
smuggler i'll find out who it was. you sure there wasn't something goin on that led him to do that? joe bloggs conlon is with no one at the minute. his last action for us was 5 weeks ago when he was substituted against st pats.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 13, 2007, 12:20:00 PM
POG has he thrown the toys from the pram or something?  Good player but if he is being a bitch he should be left rot in B football, no offence to B footballers from the Bridge ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 13, 2007, 12:35:16 PM
something like that bc. clue is in my last post. he's an outstanding talent and was from he was no age but, i'm sorry to say, he'll not go to far with his attitude.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: jungle on June 13, 2007, 01:13:32 PM
John Toal suffered a setback with his knee playing for keady against St Peters and has decided to retire im reliably informed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 13, 2007, 01:24:51 PM
i think there,s two sides to the conlon story.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 13, 2007, 02:03:09 PM
pints think something happened when a female cruppen supporter asked over to the two umpires how long was left - but even that shouldnt come in to the equation whenever he refused a lad playing the match a drink of water from the bottle he had in his hand!

that sort of shit went out of football a long time ago!

something bad must have happened with conlon in know him from playing underage and all he wanted to do was play football and play for the bridge shame to armagh football that such a talent is wasted!

i see you have that referee again next week! wonder if he will turn up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 13, 2007, 03:01:36 PM
when things are right conlon will be back. he just wants to play football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laceer on June 13, 2007, 03:09:51 PM
how good are maghery?played with a few of them at school,paul and seamus forker where class in macrory.who do they play in the championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 13, 2007, 03:33:35 PM
Both of them play in the full forward line, i think the whole of the full forward line is Forkers. As for how good are they as a team they are good but not as good as tir na nog ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 13, 2007, 03:41:34 PM
Quote from: Tir na nÓg on June 13, 2007, 03:33:35 PM
Both of them play in the full forward line, i think the whole of the full forward line is Forkers. As for how good are they as a team they are good but not as good as tir na nog ;) ;)

But then again no-one is as good as Porty. Porty for the All-Ireland :P maybe even 3 in a row ::) Move over Cross here comes Dorty Porty :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 13, 2007, 03:59:48 PM
Jaysus, good job you Portydown lads dont win much or you lot would be the must hateful club in the county ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tir na nÓg on June 13, 2007, 04:05:01 PM
QuoteBut then again no-one is as good as Porty. Porty for the All-Ireland  maybe even 3 in a row  Move over Cross here comes Dorty Porty 

It was a joke but nice to see use lads pouncing straight away! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 13, 2007, 06:06:00 PM
smuggler i've found out who the umpire was and i'm very surprised he'd do that. i can only assume something happened that led to it. that doesn't mean it's right of course but we all do silly things when we get wound up. if that's all you have to complain about after a game then you're lucky.     
re conlon: i thought we're having a good oul craic until you came out with the 'it must have been something bad'. i have no intention of talking about the clubs business on here but i won't sit back and allow silly shite speculation like that! find out the reason i don't think it's a secret and come back to me. he'll probably be playing football before the year is out just not with us so there's no talent wasted.
charlie you apparently didn't know last night if he played for us but now you know there's two sides? interesting, i think you know a lot more than you're letting on. i'd love to know wat the other side of the story is. and he'll be back when 'things are right', so i've heard but there might not be a place for him at that stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 13, 2007, 07:11:12 PM
pints i didn't know whether he played or not but surely there is two sides to every story. but on your point if a talented player is not playing for his own club then that is a waste.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 13, 2007, 07:18:27 PM
well you said he'd be back when things were right and that all he wants to do is play football, you talk like you know something.
of course it's a waste but its hardly the club's fault he walked away, we've a tremendous bunch of youngsters at the club that we're trying to build a team with, we can't be running after conlon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 13, 2007, 11:03:13 PM
smuggler is it true yer man that hit our stephen murphy was up in court a while back for doing the same thing to another player?
i hear our player has been reported for 'assault' on the ref. which obviously has to be some sort of a joke. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on June 13, 2007, 11:25:04 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 13, 2007, 11:03:13 PM
smuggler is it true yer man that hit our stephen murphy was up in court a while back for doing the same thing to another player?
i hear our player has been reported for 'assault' on the ref. which obviously has to be some sort of a joke. 

Assault, whats the story there?? what happened pog. i douth assault
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 13, 2007, 11:32:49 PM
just wat smuggler said he verbally threatened the ref but i hear, i don't know if it's true, that the ref is insisting he was going to hit him and has said he's reporting him for assault.   we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 13, 2007, 11:33:34 PM
pints i was standing outside the changing rooms and i heard the ref saying to two of the bridge selectors that he was man-handled by a certain player who told him he would smash his f**kin face in! the ref then said ' im going to report him to the county board im not here to be threatened ' .

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 13, 2007, 11:37:18 PM
well i hear from those who seen it that he didn't touch the ref. you never answered me btw.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 13, 2007, 11:37:32 PM
re conlon the reason i said it must have been something bad was because there is little rows or disagreements in every club and they normally blow over after a week or two

but after 5 weeks if he is still away then thats why i said it must have been bad

is he looking a transfer?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 13, 2007, 11:49:04 PM
smuggler it shouldn't matter how good or bad a player is ,everyone should be kept on board.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 14, 2007, 12:00:30 AM
twotwocharlie im in full agreement with you! it is impossible for a club to keep every player happy and there is the occasional fall-out! if they are genuine club people then it will blow over there head but if they are in it for themselves then stubborness may keep them away for ever!

if conlon was there last night i dont think we would have been able to cope with him and eugene byrne so purely from a cruppen point of view i was happy he wasnt there!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 14, 2007, 12:06:16 AM
All players on a team must respect decisions of the management, I have not a clue what went on with conlon and the bridge but i don't care what sort of a player he is. No player is bigger than the club. Now we have all been involved in panels when decisions to train at certain time or weekends away didn't suit us but we just had to accept it and get on with it. Some managers can be complete dictators but when the panel of players accept this and make a commitment to the team at the start of the year, if they were anything like clubmen they would see out the season. I have seen players like conlon at my own club who have been tremendous minors, but when they grew up fame went to their heads and they eventually blew up when they couldn't break through onto the senior team. Guys like this are no good for any club, they are selfish and distracting towards the goals of the season. You know the kind of guy who doesn't care if the team loses as long as he gets a goal and 2 points. They should be left to the side so as the rest of the team players can get on with the real business on the field.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on June 14, 2007, 08:31:46 AM
22CHARLIE AND DIESEL SMUGGY - Any chance you could stop talking to yourself. 3 pages on another clubs non playing member, POG has explained his view now move on lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 14, 2007, 08:34:25 AM
Thats it in a nut shell WSS. Every club has them, some more than others. These so called club players actually belive they are better than they really are and cannot understand why they are not in the senior team (or why big Joe has not phoned them :D).

I know what it's like, i run a team and have seen this many times. These guys are as much use to your club as tits on a Boar.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 14, 2007, 09:15:17 AM
spirit whilst your opinion may be very valuable in some circles i doubt if you know much if anything about the issue , soi f the posts annoy you just skip them .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 14, 2007, 09:42:50 AM
Charlie I think the point Spirit is trying to make is that it has taken 3 pages of your private chat and you still haven't got anywhere with it!! its going the same way as the whole JP Donnelly scenario.... a waste of typing on this thread!!! :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 14, 2007, 10:45:29 AM
jesus you're probably right candyman.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 14, 2007, 11:14:05 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: punjana on June 14, 2007, 11:25:37 AM
tir na nog, who ever you are, quit talking shite about our team, i play for the senior team and your doing my head in a all the rest of the lads heads in.

STOP TALKING BOUT THE TEAM
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 14, 2007, 11:28:12 AM
Ach now Punjana surely you couple of boys would not get annoyed with a bit of harmless abnter between fans?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 14, 2007, 11:37:19 AM
Whats the matter Punjana?
Are the 'fans' of the team not allowed to air their views on the recent success of the club?
Perhaps you are worried that he is setting you up for a big fall?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: punjana on June 14, 2007, 11:38:31 AM
i dont mind a bit of banter but who ever that is, is talking pure shite and probably hasnt kicked a ball in his life.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 14, 2007, 11:44:03 AM
Quote from: punjana on June 14, 2007, 11:38:31 AM
i dont mind a bit of banter but who ever that is, is talking pure shite and probably hasnt kicked a ball in his life.

Fair play to ya punjana, your prob correct ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 14, 2007, 12:05:42 PM
That's what i like to see plenty of in fighting. :)  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on June 14, 2007, 12:12:42 PM
I think the orchard county forum would suits yous ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 14, 2007, 12:24:55 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 13, 2007, 11:03:13 PM
smuggler is it true yer man that hit our stephen murphy was up in court a while back for doing the same thing to another player?
i hear our player has been reported for 'assault' on the ref. which obviously has to be some sort of a joke. 

i was at the game in cruppen on tues night and no that is not true that that player was in court. and he didnt "hit" stefan. it was just a clumsy, late challenge and stefan will hardly lose any sleep over it as he seemed fine encouraging the bridge team from the sideline. a hardy young buck he certainly is.

i heard a few comments to the ref from one bridge player but it was not aggressive or anything like, it was merely a question as to what the difference was in the challenge afore mentioned and the one in the championship game (v st peters) to which there was no reply. though thats not to say other incidents did or did not take place.

as for the conlon situation his transfer request is in and hes supposedly going to whoever his oul boy is managing at the minute, a team in louth if im correct and he will not be back playing for the bridge. cant say i havent heard it all before....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Portydown on June 14, 2007, 12:29:22 PM
i play for tir na nog senior team myself and 'tir na nog' is getting on peoples nerves within the club! so cud i please ask you to be careful with what u write in future tir na nog!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 14, 2007, 12:33:26 PM
Maybe, just maybe, Portydown, tir na nog & punjana are all the same person  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Portydown on June 14, 2007, 12:37:34 PM
i pretty much doubt it! think tir na nog cud be one of the younger lads (maybe underage player)!? i have a fair idea who pujana is! lol. its not me anyway...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seeheartalk on June 14, 2007, 01:26:11 PM
Will Tir na nOg have the full squad available for Friday nights game against Whitecross? The way the thread has been going I'll be looking to the results page expecting a 20-point hammering.
Actually, I expect a good game and a Whitecross narrow win. I will be in the village watching a boxing tournament.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 14, 2007, 01:30:11 PM
Quote from: seeheartalk on June 14, 2007, 01:26:11 PM
Will Tir na nOg have the full squad available for Friday nights game against Whitecross? The way the thread has been going I'll be looking to the results page expecting a 20-point hammering.
Actually, I expect a good game and a Whitecross narrow win. I will be in the village watching a boxing tournament.

Tell whitcross not to bother turning up because it's Tir na nOg you's are playing :P :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 15, 2007, 09:23:09 AM
killeavy v st pats tonite. both will probably will be playing div 1 football next year.
st pats look good for imd championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 15, 2007, 09:49:13 AM
I am finding it hard to believe that these games are on tonight lads. We are away to mullaghbawn, which is a relatively new pitch but christ there has been some rain over the last week. Any updates on you own club pitches would be welcome lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 15, 2007, 10:22:17 AM
Surely the rain will relent at some stage, a couple dry hours should see most pitches ok for this evening.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 15, 2007, 10:36:31 AM
The Bawn's pitch is new so i expect the drainage to be good and it is on high ground so i don't expect the rain to affect that match. Surely the rain has to stop some time :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 15, 2007, 10:48:20 AM
lads that's not rain that's a monsoon season we get more and more like India everyday  :) popadoms anyone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 15, 2007, 10:55:39 AM
would be good if pitches could be inspected around 3 or 4 o'clock if this heavy rain persists! forecasts suggests that this weather will continue for the rest of today but sure who is to know????

if pitches where inspected and reported on here then that way anyone wishing to travel to games tonight would know in advance whats games are on or off

only a suggestion!!

most new grounds now have excellent drainage in place to deal with torrential rain that we had over the last 2 days - our pitch was in great condition last night. maybe the water service should get prunty to do the storm drains round belfast!  :D  ;) :D ;) :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shooter on June 15, 2007, 10:56:32 AM
Even if it does stop raining for a few hours will it really make much of a difference?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 15, 2007, 11:08:03 AM
According to the League Regulations any club which has a doubt about the playability of their pitch must have it inspected by a referee or independent member of the County Board.
This must be done FOUR hours prior to the starting time of the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 15, 2007, 11:10:52 AM
Was there a rule brought in that if your own pitch isnt playable the opposing team can stage the fixture at their ground?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 15, 2007, 11:13:18 AM
winsamsoon - i hope your not jade goody in disguise coming out with those rascist remarks towards the members of the indian community! hahaha
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 15, 2007, 11:21:55 AM
Are the County players available for their clubs tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 15, 2007, 11:23:10 AM
Vernon and Toal playing for Harps with Lavery and Forker also playing for maghery..... unsure about any others!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 15, 2007, 11:28:27 AM
full-back yes that rule is in place providing after an inspection by an independent member of the competitions controls committee the secretary of the home club must contact the secretary of the county board and the secretary of the fixtures committee and then they will determine whether or not the fixture will be reversed!

i am presuming off course that this can only occur during the first round of the league fixtures! could be wrong though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 15, 2007, 11:34:16 AM
candyman find that hard to believe as we where not allowed to play paul keenan on tuesday night!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 15, 2007, 11:41:59 AM
as they say... from the horses mouth!!! (Harps obviously but cannot confirm 100% about maghery lads) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 15, 2007, 12:28:34 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on June 15, 2007, 09:23:09 AM
killeavy v st pats tonite. both will probably will be playing div 1 football next year.
st pats look good for imd championship.
Aye and the rest of us hope to avoid relegation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 15, 2007, 12:35:13 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on June 15, 2007, 09:23:09 AM
killeavy v st pats tonite. both will probably will be playing div 1 football next year.
st pats look good for imd championship.

'Cruppen & the 'Bridge might have something to say about the league & I would say the Blues, Whitecross & the Tones would beg to differ about the Championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 15, 2007, 12:44:27 PM
Jade goodie  :) diesel smuggler i liked that one. I think in a way we are all racist according to the world today you can say nothing. lies craic.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 15, 2007, 01:15:50 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 15, 2007, 12:44:27 PM
Jade goodie  :) diesel smuggler i liked that one. I think in a way we are all racist according to the world today you can say nothing. lies craic.

I'm not racist (well except when were talking about T Fearon :D)
Pints according to 22charlie you's lads need not play any more games the rest of the season, this guy might know what he's talking about (but i doubt it)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 15, 2007, 03:22:58 PM
predictions for tonights games (provding the weather hasn't got the better of them)

whitecross v tir na nog - draw,
crossmaglen v cullaville - crossmaglen
dromintee v pearse ogs - pearse ogs
maghery v harps - maghery
mullaghbawn  v clan na gael - draw

ballymacnab v keady - ballymacnab
granemore v clann eireann - clann eireann
killeavey v st. patricks - draw
st. michaels v wolfe tones - st. michaels
st. peters v annaghmore - annaghmore


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on June 15, 2007, 03:31:39 PM
Cheers Diesel although I wouldnt be so confident of our first ever away win in division 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 15, 2007, 07:43:52 PM
Quote from: full back on June 15, 2007, 12:35:13 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on June 15, 2007, 09:23:09 AM
killeavy v st pats tonite. both will probably will be playing div 1 football next year.
st pats look good for imd championship.

'Cruppen & the 'Bridge might have something to say about the league & I would say the Blues, Whitecross & the Tones would beg to differ about the Championship

THE TONES WOULD BE BIG BIG OUTSIDERS FOR THE INTERMEDIATE!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 15, 2007, 10:23:10 PM
whitecross beat tir na nog by 3 points in the end i think!

mark mcallister had a feeble effort of a penalty kicked well wide then scored a great goal just after it! referee had a stinker

cullyhanna beat killeavey by 3

any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 15, 2007, 11:33:45 PM
illdecide; god forbid but if armagh were to get beaten then killeavy and st pats would have their county players for rest of season. league over.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 15, 2007, 11:37:19 PM
Quoteilldecide; god forbid but if armagh were to get beaten then killeavy and st pats would have their county players for rest of season. league over.

You think so?

btw where you from charlie?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on June 15, 2007, 11:47:07 PM
Unfortunatley I was right St Peters beat us 2-10 to 0-6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 16, 2007, 03:15:12 AM
now pints if itold u my club there be no craic. how goes the wedding.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on June 16, 2007, 09:03:06 AM
Maghery beat the Harps 1-09 to 1-08,

Harps did well to come from 4 points down with 10 to go against a gale to level in injury time after a monster kick from Peader Toal only for Maghery to go down and hit the winner which was clearly over the post which is wide in the rule book.

Charlie Vernon absolutely immense at CHB again for the Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 16, 2007, 11:18:34 AM

Dromintee beat the Ogs 0-14 to 0-13.

County men m o'rourke and p duffy both played and did rightly.

Mullaghbawn stuffed the clans
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 16, 2007, 12:51:08 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on June 16, 2007, 03:15:12 AM
now pints if itold u my club there be no craic. how goes the wedding.
Another shy one  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 16, 2007, 01:12:36 PM

Bridge play last night pog?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 16, 2007, 01:29:27 PM
No Pete McCreesh's wedding yesterday.
Clanns on Tuesday night. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 16, 2007, 01:38:27 PM
spirit when did cv last have a bad game and he left on armagh bench. CRAZY.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 16, 2007, 02:05:01 PM
dissapointed as i feel there is double-standards going on at the minute!

kernan refused carrickcruppen the use to play paul keenan on tueday night against silverbridge
then allowed miceal o'rourke, paul duffy, charlie vernon, peadar toal, stefan forker and james lavery to play club football last night!

that's not fair?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 16, 2007, 02:10:20 PM
That's a bit strange alright. 

Quotedissapointed as i feel there is double-standards going on at the minute!
Just at the minute?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 16, 2007, 02:47:02 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on June 16, 2007, 09:03:06 AM
...hit the winner which was clearly over the post which is wide in the rule book.

Charlie Vernon absolutely immense at CHB again for the Harps

Check the rule book again there Spirit...nearly sure that if a ball goes over the top of the post then it's a point!!!

Would you strat Charlie Vernon at centre back for the county?? - Sounds like he doesn't have a regular position for the club!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 16, 2007, 05:34:23 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on June 16, 2007, 02:05:01 PM
dissapointed as i feel there is double-standards going on at the minute!

kernan refused carrickcruppen the use to play paul keenan on tueday night against silverbridge
then allowed miceal o'rourke, paul duffy, charlie vernon, peadar toal, stefan forker and james lavery to play club football last night!

that's not fair?

Probably feels there's a chance those boys might be used and wants to keep them match sharp ard mhacha abu...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 16, 2007, 06:00:21 PM
That doesnt make much sense uladh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on June 16, 2007, 07:04:29 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on June 16, 2007, 02:47:02 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on June 16, 2007, 09:03:06 AM
...hit the winner which was clearly over the post which is wide in the rule book.

Charlie Vernon absolutely immense at CHB again for the Harps

Check the rule book again there Spirit...nearly sure that if a ball goes over the top of the post then it's a point!!!

Would you strat Charlie Vernon at centre back for the county?? - Sounds like he doesn't have a regular position for the club!?


Vernon lined out at CHB because Collie Holmes wasnt allowed to play
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 16, 2007, 07:29:04 PM
p.j for the second time im not ard mhacha abu! i know who he is and i have since found out the reason why paul keenan was not allowed to play for us on tuesday night as our secretary has been in contact with joe kernan about it!

so you can stick to being as arsehole that i said you where about 10 pages back! you dickhead!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 16, 2007, 10:56:21 PM
Anyone know the final score in the JFC game between Mullabrack and Dorsey which took place this evening at Whitecross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on June 17, 2007, 01:47:12 PM
Armagh minors got stuffed in Clones

Result:

Tyrone 2-12 Armagh 0-08
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on June 17, 2007, 04:06:46 PM
uladh u really are one top class w**ker arent u!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 17, 2007, 04:10:20 PM
Poor oul uladh's getting an awful hammering all week. 

Anyways, what does Tryone's thrashing of Donegal say about armagh?   :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on June 17, 2007, 05:56:58 PM
Quote from: Take Your Points on June 17, 2007, 04:49:10 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 17, 2007, 04:10:20 PM
Poor oul uladh's getting an awful hammering all week. 

Anyways, what does Tryone's thrashing of Donegal say about armagh?   :-\

Same situation as last year with Tyrone and Derry.  Donegal were determined to break the Armagh hoodoo, they did everything to bring the game back home when it made no sense for the Ulster Council in terms of safety or finance.  They wound themselves up for their biggest game and managed to be handed it by Hearty.  Then they couldn't reach the same level of intensity against Tyrone.  They were unable to pressurise Tyrone or even tackle.


Agreed TYP - does that mean that Fermanagh, one point losers to Tyrone, would give us a hammering? I don't think so! That said, Donegal were absolutley brutal and they made Tyrone look very good. All Donegal's old failings came back in spades to haunt them. Tyrone will be talked up after this - an ideal situation for Derry who I would expect to beat Monaghan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 17, 2007, 06:34:32 PM
Abu registered this diesel name a couple of weeks back to support himself when he was getting very annonyed (wonder why  ???) in a debate where i said i didn't rate paul keenan. they're the same person. once again a lttle paul keenan jibe brings tweedle dum and tweedle dee bounding over the horizon together.

at the last time it was abu who reckoned i was pj and this time its diesel... he must have forgotten to maintain that end of the charade!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 17, 2007, 07:49:43 PM
uladh my parents brought me up well and encouraged me to do well at school where i learn't how to READ!

abu commented about you being p.j so that is where i found out who you are! abu is right though you do talk the greatest load of w**k ever, remember our dinner dance last year where you represented the armagh ladies committee and you put us all to sleep with your boring speech!

oh by the way you looked well in clones today with your wee armagh headband draped over your shoulder! how sweet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ziggysego on June 17, 2007, 08:04:01 PM
Spotted Tony. After all his talk of cheering on the Armagh minors, he arrived late missing the first half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 17, 2007, 08:22:52 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on June 17, 2007, 07:49:43 PM
uladh my parents brought me up well and encouraged me to do well at school where i learn't how to READ!

abu commented about you being p.j so that is where i found out who you are! abu is right though you do talk the greatest load of w**k ever, remember our dinner dance last year where you represented the armagh ladies committee and you put us all to sleep with your boring speech!

oh by the way you looked well in clones today with your wee armagh headband draped over your shoulder! how sweet

you see, i'm torn here. i should be telling you that i wasn't in clones today and i'm not who you think i am,but on the other hand i'm happy for you to go ahead thinking that.

you are Ardmhacha abu, there is no doubt. you've hardly posted with that handle since you outed yourself by leaving your real email up for public consumption. is it coincidental that Abu's juvenile cruppen posts have disappeared but you've kept them up?


On Tyrone, i was very very surprised to hear the result. you'd have to give great credit to harte for reigniting them after a few months of doubt from the outside in their capacity to challenge for honours.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on June 17, 2007, 08:36:13 PM
QuoteI still think Armagh would have hammered Tyrone today.

Given that the current Armagh team havent hammered anyone and did well to avoid a league whitewash, on the basis of which Armagh performance do you base this statement 5times???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 17, 2007, 09:05:23 PM


jaysus you agitate the f**k out of me! your an annoying piece of shit and i just wish you would go away and lie in your own piss!



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 17, 2007, 10:08:43 PM

Get it all out now abu. you'll feel better for it in the long run...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on June 18, 2007, 08:40:29 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on June 17, 2007, 09:05:23 PM


jaysus you agitate the f**k out of me! your an annoying piece of shit and i just wish you would go away and lie in your own piss!


So do you like him or not?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 18, 2007, 09:10:32 AM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 17JUNE 2007


Monday 11 June

Intermediate Football Championship Quarter-final
Madden 0-13; Wolfe Tones 2-9


Tuesday 12 June

Junior Football Championship Quarter-final
Derrynoose 3-8; Middletown 0-13

ACL – Division II
Carrickcruppen 1-14; Silverbridge 1-12


Friday 15 June

Junior Football Championship Quarter-finals
Collegeland 1-13; Eire Og 1-10
Clady 1-11; Grange 0-7

ACL – Division I
Whitecross 0-15; Tir na nÓg 1-10
Crossmaglen 3-8; Culloville 1-10
Dromintee 0-14; Pearse Og 0-13
Maghery 1-9; Harps 1-8
Mullaghbawn 5-9; Clan na Gael 2-11

ACL – Division II
Ballymacnab 0-4; Keady 1-9
Granemore v Clann Eireann (Off)
Killeavey 2-4; St Patrick's 0-13
St Michael's v Wolfe Tones (Off)
St Peter's 2-10; Annaghmore 0-6

ACL – Division III
Clonmore v Sarsfields (Off)
Madden 4-8; An Port 2-9
Middletown 1-8; Tullysaran 3-7
St Paul's 1-7; Ballyhegan 1-8

ACL – Division IV
Forkhill 0-5; Belleek 0-6
O'Hanlon's 3-11; Corrinshego 1-8


Saturday 16 June

Junior Football Championship Quarter-final
Mullaghbrack defeated Dorsey Emmett's



ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 9 8 0 1 16
Mullaghbawn 7 4 1 2 9
Dromintee 6 4 0 2 8
Maghery 6 3 1 2 7
Pearse Og 7 3 1 3 7
Clan na Gael 6 2 2 2 6
Whitecross 6 3 0 3 6
Culloville 7 1 1 5 3
Harps 7 1 1 5 3
Tir na nÓg 7 1 1 5 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
Killeavey 9 7 0 2 14
St Patrick's 6 6 0 0 12
Silverbridge 8 6 0 2 12
Carrickcruppen 6 5 0 1 10
St Michael's 6 3 0 3 6
Ballymacnab 8 3 0 5 6
Keady 8 2 1 5 5
Clann Eireann 5 2 0 3 4
Annaghmore 8 2 0 6 4
St Peter's 6 2 0 4 4
Wolfe Tones 7 1 1 5 3
Granemore 5 1 0 4 2

Division III
P W D L Pts
Madden 7 7 0 0 14
An Port Mor 8 6 0 2 12
Collegeland 7 5 0 2 10
Sarsfields 7 5 0 2 10
Ballyhegan 7 4 0 3 8
Lissummon 7 4 0 3 8
Tullysaran 9 3 2 4 8
St Paul's 7 2 1 4 5
Middletown 5 2 0 3 4
Clonmore 6 1 0 5 2
Clady 8 0 2 6 2
Crossmaglen II 6 0 1 5 1

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Grange 5 5 0 0 10
Eire Og 7 5 0 2 10
Derrynoose 6 4 0 2 8
Belleek 6 4 0 2 8
Mullaghbrack 6 4 0 2 8
Forkhill 7 4 0 3 8
Shane O'Neill's 4 3 1 0 7
Dorsey Emmett's 6 2 2 2 6
O'Hanlon's 8 2 1 5 5
Corrinshego 9 1 0 8 2
Phelim Brady's 8 0 0 8 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 18, 2007, 09:34:41 AM
Hank,
Your results and tables - wherever you got them - are slightly different that what appears on the Orchardcounty.com website.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 18, 2007, 09:36:25 AM
Considering that it was Donegal and Tyrone playing pint i don't think it would tell us anything about Armagh. Quite obvious Armagh were not playing  :D. But i know what you meant and all i would have to say is that every game is a different game (another obvious one). I can assure you that Tyrone would not have got the same room yesterday if their opponents would have been Armagh. But the highlight of the day was Dooher getting CHINNED, classic.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on June 18, 2007, 09:40:37 AM
QuoteBut the highlight of the day was Dooher getting CHINNED, classic.

I wonder what he said to get that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 18, 2007, 09:46:07 AM
Exile, i got it off orchardcounty...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 18, 2007, 09:52:21 AM
It has been updated with yesterdays results - thats why they are slightly different lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 18, 2007, 10:48:00 AM
Tell ya what lads i wouldn't mind the we bollox playing for Armagh, we (Clans) could have been doing with him on Friday night there as well. The old championship blues, our game with the Bawn was somthing else. The goals were just flying in (more in ours) strange game indeed riddled with errors and no tackles typical match from 2 teams that have been dumped from the championship.

Pints, i was talking to a few Clann Eireann lads over the weekend and they are not looking forward to their journey on Tuesday night to play the Bridge. Sure what else would ya be doing on a Tue night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 18, 2007, 10:54:44 AM
Jaysus illdecide, poor result for yourselves. When was the last time you conceded 5 goals in a competitive senior game?
I take it Marsden wasnt playing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 18, 2007, 11:14:33 AM
Quote from: full back on June 18, 2007, 10:54:44 AM
Jaysus illdecide, poor result for yourselves. When was the last time you conceded 5 goals in a competitive senior game?
I take it Marsden wasnt playing

Don't laugh at this but i was slagging a few Clann Eireann lads last week for conceeding 5 goals and i was saying "Jasus i can't remember the clans conceeding 5 goals ever" and 1 week later we get destroyed. what a guy.

No, Marsden and Bumpy both did not play however Bumpy came on in the last 15 mins when the damage was done. Was all the county lads playing for their clubs on Fri night or just a select few??. i don't know if Diarmaid was injured or if JK did not allow him to play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on June 18, 2007, 11:19:32 AM
QuoteFair play to Tyrone, for me it was an unexpected result, but I think it would have been a different story if it had been Armagh v Tyrone.

I'd agree with that much and that Armagh would not have lay down so it might have been a tighter game thats all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on June 18, 2007, 01:10:13 PM
the 'bridge and clan eireann match is off tomorrow night. i understand it was a mutual decision between both clubs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 18, 2007, 07:27:52 PM
If the 'Bridge and Clann Eireann game was postponed before then according the the rules it cannot be postponed a 2nd time unless because of a death in either club.
Both clubs could lose the points as this game could not be deemed "void" by the Competitions Control Committee.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 18, 2007, 07:44:02 PM
What are you talking about?

Anyway it was postponed the first time due to a death, or doesn't that matter?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on June 18, 2007, 07:54:57 PM
county board agreed to it on sun morning so there will be reprecussions
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 19, 2007, 08:47:32 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E MONDAY 25 JUNE 2007


Tuesday 19 June

ACL – Division II (8.00)
Silverbridge v Clann Eireann (Off)


Wednesday 20 June

ACL – Division II (8.00)
Clan na Gael v Whitecross (Seamus Falloon)


Friday 22 June

ACL – Division I (8.00)
Maghery v Mullaghbawn (Kevin Gallogly)
Harps v Dromintee (Jim Slevin)
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg (Vincent O'Neill)

ACL – Division II (8.00)
Carrickcruppen v Clann Eireann (Paul Rath)
Ballymacnab v Granemore (Kevin Murtagh)
Keady v St Patrick's (Rory Robinson)
St Michael's v St Peter's (Malachy McNicholl)

ACL – Division (8.00)
Middletown v Ballyhegan (Oliver Hearty)
Crossmaglen II v Clonmore (Jim Burns)
Clady v Lissummon (Paul Seacroft)

ACL – Division IV (8.00)
Phelim Brady's v Dorsey Emmett's (Mickey Leonard)
Shane O'Neill's v Derrynoose (Seamus O'Neill)


Saturday 23 June

Armagh Og Sport (3.30) at Ballymacnab

Semi-finals
(1) Mullaghbawn v North Armagh Winners
(2) Keady v Killeavy

3rd/4th Place-off
Losers (1) v Losers (2)

Final
Winners (1) v Winners (2)


Sunday 24 June

ACL – Division I (2.00)
Clan na Gael v Crossmaglen (Paul Rath)
Whitecross v Culloville (Ronan Quigley)
Mullaghbawn v Harps (Gary Smith)
Maghery v Pearse Og (Tony Watters)
Dromintee v Tir na nÓg (Brendan Gorman)

ACL – Division II (2.00)
Annaghmore v Killeavey (Damian McConville)
Clann Eireann v St Peter's (Jimmy McKee)
Keady v Carrickcruppen (Paul Seacroft)
St Patrick's v Ballymacnab (Stephen Murray)
Silverbridge v St Michael's (Oliver Hearty)
Wolfe Tones v Granemore (Kevin Gallogly)

ACL – Division III (2.00)
Ballyhegan v Madden (Malachy McNicholl)
Collegeland v St Paul's (Jim Lynch)
Lissummon v Clonmore (Kevin Murtagh)
An Port Mor v Clady (Rory Robinson)
Sarsfields v Middletown (Noel Martin)
Tullysaran v Crossmaglen II (Barney Henry)

ACL – Division IV (2.00)
Belleek v O'Hanlon's (Seamus O'Neill)
Derrynoose v Phelim Brady's (Seamus Falloon)
Dorsey Emmett's v Grange (Patrick Duffy)
Eire Og v Mullaghbrack (Vincent O'Neill)
Shane O'Neill's v Forkhill (Frank McDonald)


Monday 25 June

Minor Football Championship – 1st Round (7.30)
Oliver Plunkett's v St Peter's (Patrick Duffy) at Mullaghbawn
Wolfe Tones v Shane O'Neill's (Tony O'Hare)
Eire Og v Crossmaglen (Sean McClelland)
Clady v Ballyhegan (Jim Burns)
Sarsfields v Granemore (Barney Henry)
St John's v Silverbridge (Paul Seacroft) at Clonmore
Ballymacnab v Pearse Og (Oliver Hearty)
Clann Eireann v Derrynoose (Jim Lynch)
Killeavey v Culloville (Paul Rath)
Clan na Gael v Tullysaran (Dessie McDonnell)
Keady v Corrinshego (Damian McConville)
Madden v St Enda's (Henry McCloy)
Maghery v St Brigid's (Sean McClatchey)
Harps v Dromintee (Mickey Leonard)
St Patrick's v St Paul's (Jimmy McKee)
Middletown v Carrickcruppen (Seamus O'Neill)

MFC Games
Extra time, if required in all above games
All games played at 1st named teams' venue
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 19, 2007, 09:06:08 AM
Any B fixtures?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on June 19, 2007, 10:51:25 AM
any news on clarke and mallon
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 19, 2007, 12:33:15 PM
Will Tir Na Nogs band of bandits be travelling down?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 19, 2007, 02:22:10 PM

Doubt it, our social club won't be open til after the game....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 19, 2007, 06:01:47 PM
The real question is will they have to take their own bodybags ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 19, 2007, 10:31:20 PM

If they watch spotlight this evening they might think twice about travelling!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 20, 2007, 08:54:14 AM
Quote from: Uladh on June 19, 2007, 10:31:20 PM

If they watch spotlight this evening they might think twice about travelling!

Are you's lads trying to intimidate those Porty lads. Feck sake that shit went on every night in Kilwilkee ::) ::). Watch yourselves there lads i see there is a north Armagh referee doing the game, Brendy Gorman will not take any of that shit that went on over in Portadown ;) He's very particular and blows for every we petty free.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on June 20, 2007, 11:57:43 AM
The Garvaghy Gaels will be there to do the double and send the O'Rourke clan into mourning. Have no fear
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 20, 2007, 12:26:08 PM
I'm sure you'll be down yourself tony.... not.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 20, 2007, 01:29:23 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 20, 2007, 11:57:43 AM
The Garvaghy Gaels will be there to do the double and send the O'Rourke clan into mourning. Have no fear

tony you should borrow Cross's kit and you should not have any bother in Dromintee. When they see that top they keek themselves
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 20, 2007, 01:52:27 PM
Because Clans really put up a good show in the County final last year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 20, 2007, 02:48:24 PM
He is only messing Corn!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 20, 2007, 02:56:39 PM
ach so am I!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 20, 2007, 02:59:02 PM
illdecide is a bit fragile after the last few games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 20, 2007, 03:01:03 PM
t fearon and uladh thumping lumps out of one another!

i would actually pay money to see that!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 20, 2007, 03:11:02 PM
QuoteThe Garvaghy Gaels will be there to do the double and send the O'Rourke clan into mourning. Have no fear

Have no fear? It is a league match mate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 20, 2007, 03:13:26 PM
Quote from: full back on June 20, 2007, 02:59:02 PM
illdecide is a bit fragile after the last few games

You better believe it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 20, 2007, 04:34:26 PM
The porty lads were not doing much talking about the Clans beating them by 26pts on Monday night in the minor match, but they were quick to point out a similar defeat to our U16 2 weeks ago. Maybe they forgot ::) ::)

Anyway we play Whitecross tonight and from what i hear we will be struggling to get a team out. WTF :-[ :-[ What is the world coming to
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: banjoz on June 20, 2007, 10:05:15 PM
maybe you forgot our U16's are in the championship final this week and we weren't allowed to use the five or six that make up our minor panel! but i can assure you if you play the way you did in the first half and before we had a man dismissed next week against Tullysaron you will follow the same path as your seniors!  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 20, 2007, 10:52:07 PM
How did Clans do tonight in their game with Whitecross, or did it take place?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 21, 2007, 08:30:33 AM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on June 20, 2007, 10:52:07 PM
How did Clans do tonight in their game with Whitecross, or did it take place?


Whitecross won by 2pts, i think it was 0-12 to 0-14. another 2 men sent off last night WTF, although wait for this one lads this is a cracker. The referee sent of one of our players because he thought that the player was gonna hit him, (now he thought) the player didn't touch him in fact the referee actually pushed the player "what is that all about"?

I thought i was gonna win the Lotto last night but it didn't happen so i'm phoneing Camelot shortly looking my money anyway :D :D Can't wait for sundays game with Cross we only have 6 suspended players for that game, should be some craic!! :P :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 21, 2007, 08:34:39 AM
illdecide who was the ref.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on June 21, 2007, 08:35:13 AM
Tigger was in contact with me earlier - he's doing the commentary on the Clans v Cross match on Sunday on 5 FM.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 21, 2007, 08:53:27 AM
awe jesus
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 21, 2007, 09:48:06 AM
the referee was seamy faloon from killeavy, apparantly he was refereeing his first ever div.1 game!

he is only a new referee this year and probably had been thrown in at the deep end.

referees in their first year should only be allowed to referee underage games and then be assessed on a monthly basis maybe then moving onto div.4 football - not after 2 or 3 months thrown straight into div.1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 21, 2007, 10:03:27 AM

Obviously five fm are hoping the cross clans game will be the of usual competitive nature but looking at clans from the outside, it doesn't look like this will be accurate. prepare for plenty of "And the all ireland champions, the greatest club team in the history of the world, tag on another superb point" following a 14 yard free...

Quote from: diesel-smuggler on June 21, 2007, 09:48:06 AM
the referee was seamy faloon from killeavy

Jaysus, i never knew yon boy was refereeing. all i can say is  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 21, 2007, 10:28:41 AM
Quote from: Uladh on June 21, 2007, 10:03:27 AM

Obviously five fm are hoping the cross clans game will be the of usual competitive nature but looking at clans from the outside, it doesn't look like this will be accurate. prepare for plenty of "And the all ireland champions, the greatest club team in the history of the world, tag on another superb point" following a 14 yard free...

Quote from: diesel-smuggler on June 21, 2007, 09:48:06 AM
the referee was seamy faloon from killeavy

Jaysus, i never knew yon boy was refereeing. all i can say is  :D

Lads in all seriousness this shit is getting out of hand, you can't send off a player for thinking he was gonna hit you. He admitted this after the match and said that he had made a mistake but the crowd seen him getting a straight red so there was nothing he could do.

All i'm saying is that wearing blue does not help when these muppets are refeering your games, they are ruining our season. We have had 6 straight red cards in our last 3 games (senior) and our B-Championship semi final our best playera and captain red carded after 15 seconds for telling a player to get up of the ground after he'd been tackled.

Our biggest problem is that we do not have any senior refeeres at our club and it's time we had, maybe dish out some of this crap we have to put up with to a few other clubs. I know a few of you's lads will be saying "Dry your Eyes you didn't get them for nothing" but if only you hear some of the comments from the refeeres. Like "tell that no5 if he opens his mouth in this match he will go" this was before the throw in, that ref had never done any of our games (i know it was an O Hagan he was talking about and he is a slabber, but thats not the point. You can't say that before a game espically when you have never done any of our games b4)

I could go on all day on comments from ref's similar to that mentioned above but whats the point it's not gonna help us any.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 21, 2007, 10:40:45 AM
Illdecide

Could be worse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB7keHZ4yJ8

Check out at about 5:40.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 21, 2007, 10:54:57 AM

What was the shelbourne number 7 sent off for? tackling correctly?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 21, 2007, 10:59:21 AM
What!  Another couple of Clans players sent off last night.  Who were they?
I note that it was the fault of the referee that two Clans players were sent off.
Surprising result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 21, 2007, 12:30:25 PM
C'mon illdecide,
It cant be coincidence that more of your players were lined last night
Its going to end up that no one can referee your games, without getting it wrong
Did it cost yourselves the game? who was sent off?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on June 21, 2007, 12:42:44 PM
illdecide I know what your saying about refs spoiling games/seasons but technically speaking its assault if the ref had an honest and resonable belief he was about to get hit.   Given there was a ref in one of our games last year who booked a man for touching the ball on the ground and sent a man off for square ball, im not surprised your man got sent off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seeheartalk on June 21, 2007, 12:53:01 PM
How did Whitecross play last night? Do they look like a team that can beat St Pat's in the Champ semi final. Should be a cracking game. Any outstanding players for Whitecross, cus I heard they got some classy points against Tir na nOg on Friday night. Oh yeah, I was suprised they beat Tir na Nog. :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 21, 2007, 01:26:42 PM
Quote from: seeheartalk on June 21, 2007, 12:53:01 PM
How did Whitecross play last night? Do they look like a team that can beat St Pat's in the Champ semi final. Should be a cracking game. Any outstanding players for Whitecross, cus I heard they got some classy points against Tir na nOg on Friday night. Oh yeah, I was suprised they beat Tir na Nog. :o

I personaly think St Pats will beat Whitecross, you can't give them much credit for beating the CLans as Derrynoose would beat us at the moment(no dis-respect Derrynoose)
i know what your saying "Full back" and our players have to take most of the responsibility the lack of discipline is just not good enough, but i still feel we are not getting a fair crack of the whip. I know we are not on our own as other people have mentioned on the board about past experience but there are some clubs out there (and we know who they are) who will not get players sent off for minor incidents. It needs to be GBH b4 they get the line.

By the way "Armagh Exile" the second player to get the line deserved all he got, but to send the first player off because the ref thought he was gonna hit him was just not acceptable.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 21, 2007, 01:41:35 PM
Why did the ref think the was going to hit him?
We expect one of ours to get a heavy suspension because the ref thought he was going to hit him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 21, 2007, 01:51:11 PM
It is as simple as this lads the Clans team is renowned for playing football and the south Armagh teams renowned for hard hitting and the occassional bad tackle. So how can it be explained that we have had 6 men sent off in the last four games. Now i admit on some occassion our players do deserve the line but to watch consistantly week in and week out our players getting assaulted on the field of play and not even getting a free kick, whilst we have players sent off for minor offences. There are double standards and i agree with I'll decide it boils down to two things. 1/ we are a hated team and other club officials come into our games with a biased mind set and 2/ we don't have any referees of our own in the meetings fighting our corner. As a player it is totally demoralizing every game knowing that a referee is always going to be biased against you. We are not asking them to rob other teams, we Just want them to call a spade a spade. It is only a matter of time before someone goes over board and smacks one of them and this will be a sad day for all. One other point before i go the behaviour of the WhiteCross number 9 last night was a disgrace. He actually took his dick out of his shorts and began to wave it at one of our players as he was leaving the field. There were a lot of kids at the match so this behaviour was totally disgraceful. He is a lucky man that some of the clans supporters didn't get a hold of him after the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 21, 2007, 01:57:23 PM
sounds like a gypo alright... wat was that supposed to achieve?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 21, 2007, 02:10:15 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 21, 2007, 01:51:11 PM
It is as simple as this lads the Clans team is renowned for playing football and the south Armagh teams renowned for hard hitting and the occassional bad tackle. So how can it be explained that we have had 6 men sent off in the last four games. Now i admit on some occassion our players do deserve the line but to watch consistantly week in and week out our players getting assaulted on the field of play and not even getting a free kick, whilst we have players sent off for minor offences. There are double standards and i agree with I'll decide it boils down to two things. 1/ we are a hated team and other club officials come into our games with a biased mind set and 2/ we don't have any referees of our own in the meetings fighting our corner. As a player it is totally demoralizing every game knowing that a referee is always going to be biased against you. We are not asking them to rob other teams, we Just want them to call a spade a spade. It is only a matter of time before someone goes over board and smacks one of them and this will be a sad day for all. One other point before i go the behaviour of the WhiteCross number 9 last night was a disgrace. He actually took his dick out of his shorts and began to wave it at one of our players as he was leaving the field. There were a lot of kids at the match so this behaviour was totally disgraceful. He is a lucky man that some of the clans supporters didn't get a hold of him after the game.

Having seem Whitecross play, there is no way you could describe them as a hard hitting team
Why was your second player lined?
Who was he?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 21, 2007, 02:20:45 PM
He was lined for 2 yellows. I forgot to mention that t**ker who whipped the lad out infront of the crowd and swung it round at the player who had been sent off. disgraceful there were a few men in the crowd looking to talk to that guy after the match, they had their we kids at the match and that baloon does that. The Whitecross management subed him shortly afterwards.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 21, 2007, 02:48:29 PM

Have the clans ever considered a charm offensive towards referees?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 21, 2007, 04:41:44 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 21, 2007, 02:48:29 PM

Have the clans ever considered a charm offensive towards referees?

Yes, it's called "Land Mines"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 21, 2007, 06:26:56 PM
QuoteI forgot to mention that t**ker who whipped the lad out infront of the crowd and swung it round at the player who had been sent off. disgraceful there were a few men in the crowd looking to talk to that guy after the match, they had their we kids at the match and that baloon does that. The Whitecross management subed him shortly afterwards.

Did the referee or none of the officials see this alleged action happen?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 21, 2007, 08:36:58 PM
What officials armagh exile?

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I forgot to mention that t**ker who whipped the lad out infront of the crowd and swung it round at the player who had been sent off. disgraceful there were a few men in the crowd looking to talk to that guy after the match, they had their we kids at the match and that baloon does that. The Whitecross management subed him shortly afterwards.
He just lets himself and his club down with that behaviour.

What did the clanns player do that the ref thought he was going to hit him?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 21, 2007, 10:56:41 PM
heard barry o'hagan played last night when he was serving suspension! any truth???

pints - liam campbell got his 12 week ban reduced to 4 weeks tonight by the hearings committee!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 21, 2007, 11:18:35 PM
Quotepints - liam campbell got his 12 week ban reduced to 4 weeks tonight by the hearings committee!
Are you sure?  I hadn't even heard he got 12 weeks though I know that's what we were expecting.  4 weeks is probably fair enough no thanks to the ref who made all he could out of it.  It's still a blow to us but it could have been a lot worse!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 21, 2007, 11:21:13 PM
100% sure! got cleaned at ascot this week but would nearly put the mortgage on this! haha
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 22, 2007, 08:33:46 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 21, 2007, 08:36:58 PM
What officials armagh exile?

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I forgot to mention that t**ker who whipped the lad out infront of the crowd and swung it round at the player who had been sent off. disgraceful there were a few men in the crowd looking to talk to that guy after the match, they had their we kids at the match and that baloon does that. The Whitecross management subed him shortly afterwards.
He just lets himself and his club down with that behaviour.

What did the clanns player do that the ref thought he was going to hit him?

Pints the player did march towards the ref (prob showing some anger on his face) but believe it or not there was contact between the pair and it was from the ref who actually pushed the player. The fact that he admitted to us after the game that he made a mistake says it all.

Diesel-smuggler don't know anything about BOH and suspensions, ive been on the same field as him for the last no of games and don't recall him getting sent off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 22, 2007, 09:42:10 AM
is there a full round of fixtures tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 22, 2007, 10:09:08 AM
Yes, fixtures a couple of pages back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 22, 2007, 10:45:33 AM
The ref for the Clans v Cross game is Paul Rath, who da hell is this guy and what club is he from??? I don't recognise the name!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 22, 2007, 11:01:41 AM
I assume that Colm McKinstry will keep him right.
I heard Big Colm never left the referee's side during the Clans and Whitecross game the other night.
Will the suspended Barry O'Hagan play on Sunday.  Heard he played against Whitecross after being reported by the referee for verbal abuse after the Clans v Mullabawn game on Friday night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 22, 2007, 11:08:01 AM
Armagh Exile don't believe all you hear. And yes he did play against Whitecross and why wouldn't he, he was available for selection so he picked himself ;) :D

And in a way i do feel sorry for any man (even ref's) that gets puked by big mcKink ;) God help the man :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on June 22, 2007, 11:40:54 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 22, 2007, 10:45:33 AM
The ref for the Clans v Cross game is Paul Rath, who da hell is this guy and what club is he from??? I don't recognise the name!!
Paul is a Harps club man not a bad ref, lets thing run a lot more than others, and always explains why a free was or was not given.  Better than most!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 22, 2007, 11:43:31 AM
I didn't say whitecross were hard hitting i said south Armagh teams in general are renowned for being hallions on the field. From a north Armagh perspective anyway. The guy taking his langer out is actually a matter for the police but saying that they are a bunch of you know whats the matter will probably pass over like the sabbath. I take it that slevin reported BOH then if this man doesn't have a vendetta against BOH then i do not know . Two games and apparently two sendings off. speaks volumes to me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 22, 2007, 11:50:35 AM
Its the world against the Clans - how dare any referee send of a Clans man.
FFS lads, talk about having a complex
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 22, 2007, 11:52:12 AM
Win,
Did the referee see the alleged action by the Whitecross player?  And if so, what action did he take?
Was this incident as bad as has been alleged?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on June 22, 2007, 12:20:48 PM
From what I heard it wasn't such a big deal. The Whitecross player grabbed his own lunch box and with everything inside the shorts he jiggled at the Clan's bench, who were their usual whinning selves. Still it is not something to condone.
But is it just me or is it the further north in Armagh you go the bigger cryers the team usually are?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 22, 2007, 12:52:49 PM
sideline and full back this is a message baord for local sport, yes? so we are merly raising local sporting issues. There would  no whinning done if referees would do the fukcing games correctly. Our lads train every bit as hard as any other team and would simply request a fair crack of the whip. I know referees make mistakes and this just has to be taken on the chin and move on. However there is blatant cheating going on. I wouldn't expext you two guys to undersatnd it becasue you don't witness it week in week out. If i were reading posts continually highlighting this i would probably feel the same as you guys. I would be convinvced that the team in question must not be entirely innocent, which we are not but i can tell for a team to receive 6 red cards in 4 games in a disgrace. This kind of thing is unheard of in Armagh football, not even division four has experienced this and things are a lot loser down there concerning discipline. It has got to the stage where our team is actually demoralized going out onto the field becasue we know we are playing 16 men every week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 22, 2007, 12:56:10 PM
Interesting that when incidents occur in club matches, new posters appear to refute everything. speaking last night to a fella at the match, who was in the firing line so to speak, and the whitecross player had his lad out all right. people at the game were disgusted and more than 2 or 3 fathers of children present went looking for the player after the game.

Shocking carry on and as someone pointed out, its an issue for our brand new friends in the psni.
Title: Winsamsoon
Post by: Uladh on June 22, 2007, 12:59:45 PM

Where do you think this has originated?

is it all a big conspiracy?

do you think that various referees at various referee meetings over the course of the last two years telling each other in whispered tones the amount of abuse they got last week from the clans has any bearing on prejudicing officials before they get out of the car?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 22, 2007, 01:13:11 PM
I didnt see the 6 red cards, so I cant comment on them.
But can someone tell me that all 6 were incorrect?
All of the referees cant get it wrong. Perhaps referees are starting to apply the rules & it affects Clans more than other teams ie f**king the ref off etc
I have sympathy for the Clans now, in that it is going to be a hard reputation to get shot off, where referees are concerned
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 22, 2007, 01:29:12 PM
QuoteI didn't say whitecross were hard hitting i said south Armagh teams in general are renowned for being hallions on the field. From a north Armagh perspective anyway.

I was understanding your position until then.

What were these 6 reds for?
1 yous said yourselves was deserved against whitecross
1 was for acting agressively towards a ref - we've player serving suspension for the same thing

2 more in the championship for fighting?

what else?
Title: Re: Winsamsoon
Post by: illdecide on June 22, 2007, 02:12:37 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 22, 2007, 12:59:45 PM

Where do you think this has originated?

is it all a big conspiracy?

do you think that various referees at various referee meetings over the course of the last two years telling each other in whispered tones the amount of abuse they got last week from the clans has any bearing on prejudicing officials before they get out of the car?

Uladh, as i said before a few pages back how can a ref justify before a game (and his first time refeering the clans) saying if a certain player opens his mouth he will send him off. Its obvious that either he went and watched us playing and seen/heard this certain player giving out or other ref's have been saying to him watch out for that w****r ?????? he's a slabber get him off.

When J Slevin was approached after the Bawn game by one of our players, our player said to him "you's ref's are going to put our team out of business (you know what i mean) and his answer to that was "wouldn't that be great"

Another quote from ref K McNeice "i'm sick of you's Clans men" and then went on to book many players afterwards whilst smiling in the process.

It was talked about the other night and the Clans have several players on the wrong side of 30 who refuse to play on after this year due to the standard of refeering towards the Clans, when quite clearly these men could carry on for another few years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 22, 2007, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 22, 2007, 01:29:12 PM
QuoteI didn't say whitecross were hard hitting i said south Armagh teams in general are renowned for being hallions on the field. From a north Armagh perspective anyway.

I was understanding your position until then.

What were these 6 reds for?
1 yous said yourselves was deserved against whitecross
1 was for acting agressively towards a ref - we've player serving suspension for the same thing

2 more in the championship for fighting?

what else?



3 reds were deserved and 3 were not: that simple

the 2 clowns sent of in the championsip for fighting (deserved)
the player against Whitecross for 2 yellas (Deserved)
The other guy who was sent off against Whitecross was angry about a free given against him, that happens every game with every team. Remember the ref admitted he was wrong!!
And the other 2 were sent off for nothin short of being biased after the Bawn game.

And i do agree with Full back this is only gonna get worse because the more it's talked about by ref's the worst its gonna get.





Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on June 22, 2007, 02:30:51 PM
Illdecide, this is slander, I suggest you edit your post. Moderator I suggest you remove it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on June 22, 2007, 03:06:12 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 22, 2007, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 22, 2007, 01:29:12 PM
QuoteI didn't say whitecross were hard hitting i said south Armagh teams in general are renowned for being hallions on the field. From a north Armagh perspective anyway.

I was understanding your position until then.

What were these 6 reds for?
1 yous said yourselves was deserved against whitecross
1 was for acting agressively towards a ref - we've player serving suspension for the same thing

2 more in the championship for fighting?

what else?



3 reds were deserved and 3 were not: that simple

the 2 clowns sent of in the championsip for fighting (deserved)
the player against Whitecross for 2 yellas (Deserved)
The other guy who was sent off against Whitecross was angry about a free given against him, that happens every game with every team. Remember the ref admitted he was wrong!!
And the other 2 were sent off for nothin short of being biased after the Bawn game.

And i do agree with Full back this is only gonna get worse because the more it's talked about by ref's the worst its gonna get.

P.S. remember our semi final against Dromintee 2 years ago when a certain bookie in Armagh took a £3000 bet on Dromintee to beat the clans.  :o :o



Thats just pure and utter nonsense, how can this be proved?
Just because Dromintee, who two years ago were probably the 2nd best team in the county, defeated the clans who were in division 2 two years ago, does not give evedience that the game was refereed unfairly! for financial gain.  if that were the case then why was there not an inquiry into it at the time?
pure and utter speculation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 22, 2007, 03:06:27 PM
Maybe that was a bit over the top :'(. And it will never be proved ::). So i was prob wrong to state names :-\, there you go!!

Sorry for ruffling a few feathers there :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 22, 2007, 03:10:32 PM
Full back & laughin paddy ... get your quotes edited there for the sake of the board.

Thats a laughable accusation anyway illdecide, you were beaten fair and square. i suppose mckee missed the three frees in the last 2 minutes, any of which would've given you a replay?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 22, 2007, 03:15:40 PM
As I said before, the lads from Lurgan have a complex
Us against the world & all that - wonder will any players get sent off on Sunday because of referees being bias against the Clans?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on June 22, 2007, 03:27:16 PM
Jesus Christ never seen so much crying over referees

The storys are that convincing that Hollywood might be interested in producing a film

Die Hard 5 - Relegated again!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 22, 2007, 03:47:19 PM
I have said this before and I will say it again...referees do not win/lose games for teams.  They are an easy scapegoat for teams who through their own shortcomings are not coming up to scratch.  Cross have been on their fair share of bad decisions and good decisions but you find that over a period of time they even out.

Clans have a bad reputation for being a crow d of cryers on the field, with some moreso than others.  Maybe the ref should not single out players but there is nothing wrong with him stating in general that back chat will not be tolerated.  As someone who has been on the wrong side of many refs decisions I know what is like to have to bite my lip and get on with it.  Sometimes I don't and if i pay the price then so be it.

Before people blame refs look inside your own camps and you will see the reasons for failure and also if refs have a bias against your team you may also see the reason why.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 22, 2007, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 22, 2007, 03:47:19 PM
I have said this before and I will say it again...referees do not win/lose games for teams.  They are an easy scapegoat for teams who through their own shortcomings are not coming up to scratch.  Cross have been on their fair share of bad decisions and good decisions but you find that over a period of time they even out.

Clans have a bad reputation for being a crow d of cryers on the field, with some moreso than others.  Maybe the ref should not single out players but there is nothing wrong with him stating in general that back chat will not be tolerated.  As someone who has been on the wrong side of many refs decisions I know what is like to have to bite my lip and get on with it.  Sometimes I don't and if i pay the price then so be it.

Before people blame refs look inside your own camps and you will see the reasons for failure and also if refs have a bias against your team you may also see the reason why.

BC1 you are correct in what you are saying to a certain point, we have slabbers in our team who i would like to thump never mind the opposition (or refs) and it is true that them 3-4 guys ruin it for the rest of us and give us a bad name throughout the county. And if we sat here long enough you guys could name the same 3-4 men who year after year continue their slabbering and crying. But that will be changing very very soon but what i'm getting at is the rest of us will have to suffer in the meantime.

Anyway enough about refs for now, even i've got fed up with it. Wouldn't it be some craic if i got sent off on Sunday (if selected)

Good luck over the weekend everyone who has a game (except Cross, because we need the luck for that one)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on June 22, 2007, 05:47:11 PM
are the county players playing for their clubs this weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 22, 2007, 06:19:20 PM
Pint understands were i am coming from when i said about the rougher fooball being played in South Armagh so you would think there would be more cards shown in South Armagh but we have six in four games. Do you see all you guys who continually mouth about the clans bringin it on themselves. Well i never once claimed we were totally innocent or the 6 reds were all unjustified. Referees are coming into our games with a bias. They should enter each game with an open mind and start it as if from scratch. The same happens with the county team when they have the misfortune of getting john Bannon. The man never gives free kicks to Armagh and he punishes them for tackles which are legal you all know this. The issue of Mc Kee, and personally i couldn't care less if it is slander he did the deed and that is a fact, I still haven't heard a reason for the penalty Dromintee got. I am not speaking of this topics again because i too feel it has gone on long enough.  But watch this space for a referee getting laid out like a dusty rug some sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 22, 2007, 06:44:02 PM
The two Clans men sent to the line on Wednesday night got two straight Red cards therefore they will be out for a month each at least.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 22, 2007, 07:00:47 PM
f**k yous Clans ones are fairly living up to your cry baby reputation, the game was thrown haha yeah right catch a grip you morons.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 22, 2007, 08:15:34 PM
too many players watching the premiership and them shower of crying cnuts. gaa it's a mans game so shut the fcuk up and get on with it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 22, 2007, 08:25:42 PM
QuotePint understands were i am coming from when i said about the rougher fooball being played in South Armagh so you would think there would be more cards shown in South Armagh but we have six in four games.
What? I did not say that, I said I was understanding your position until you brought that nonsense about south armagh teams being rougher into it.  To make such a statement is just silly! 

Referees are atrocious at the minute.  It's hard to believe that some of them don't go out with a bias. 

BC
QuoteI have said this before and I will say it again...referees do not win/lose games for teams.
THat's silly too bc, of course referees can cost games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 22, 2007, 09:37:03 PM
Any results of tonight's League games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 22, 2007, 10:05:39 PM
Division Two Result
Ballymacnab 1-7
Granemore 1-10
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 22, 2007, 10:11:28 PM
Harps 1-10 Dromintee 10  , Swift superb.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 22, 2007, 11:31:31 PM

No complaints from us tonight, our lads just weren't good enough. easily our worst performance since the first day of the season. that said, only a soft goal was the difference in the end
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: say nothin on June 23, 2007, 12:13:52 AM
Harps 1-10
Dromintee 1-10

Agree with ye on the goal, but why was Cathal O'Rourke left on the bench until h-time ???

7 attempts 7 points (6 frees) - Dromintee missed a couple of handy frees in the 1st half which I'm sure he would have pointed. saying that I have to congratulate Harps tonight, who I thought played with a bit of heart.

Gerard McDonagh at FF won every ball, while swift commanded the middle and knocked over an excellent point. I thought the defence worked hard with Jungle and Marty Gill either winning or breaking every ball in the 2nd half, and also chucky morris must have covered every blade of grass. Joe Quigley was back to his usual selve.

Harps seemed to want to win the 50/50 ball more.

Thank god for 2 needed points ;D ;D

Bring on the Bawn on Sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: say nothin on June 23, 2007, 12:18:33 AM
Also

Ogs destroyed Tir na nOg (10 points or so)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 23, 2007, 12:26:07 PM
anyone know if silverbridge were playing last nite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 23, 2007, 12:30:54 PM
The bridge weren't playing last night, we've newtown on sunday.  You're awful interested  in us charlie.

A few random points...
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Division Two Result
Ballymacnab 1-7
Granemore 1-10
Ballymacnab have to be the worst team in the division!

Tir na Nog look like they'll have a lot of trouble staying up.  Would our tir na nog posters not think that a few wins in the league would have been better than a championship win their doing so much bleating about? 
The bridge would have been in a similar postion plenty of times...I would have always taken a league win.

Some of you harps posters are great craic, we woudlnt see you if yous lose. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 23, 2007, 01:45:39 PM
just curious pints just curious.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 23, 2007, 01:52:51 PM
some of you bridge posers are great craic
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 23, 2007, 01:56:16 PM
Say Nothin was Chucky Morris number 7? If so he did cover alot of ground.

A bit dissapointing to see the two Harps selectors running on and hitting players in that scuffle.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 23, 2007, 05:47:00 PM
twocharlies if it is a mans game ya dick then you should be allowed to tackle.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 23, 2007, 05:48:00 PM
Clans and Cross game off on sunday btw.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 23, 2007, 07:12:51 PM
winsamsoon i have just opened my window and i can hear you north armagh wankers whinging from here .get a f**king life .the world doesn't revolve around lurgan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: say nothin on June 23, 2007, 09:26:21 PM
corn

Number 7 was Marty McCoy, Number 5 was Morris


I'm not going to start arguing with you about the scuffle, i seen how long the Portadown and Dromintee row dragged on... ::)

you know which team started the row ::), you know who hit the Harps manager ::)...

so its ok for a player to hit a manager (from behind), but if he retaliates its a crime ::) ::) In fact, only he and the other member of the Harps management were sent off, none of your players even got a yellow.

::) ::)




Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 23, 2007, 09:44:51 PM

you win... we can't handle that many emoticons in one post
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: say nothin on June 24, 2007, 12:37:26 AM
we...?????????


all 2 of Dromintee posters on the board..

Broadband will reach the sticks shortly :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 24, 2007, 11:04:44 AM
Apparently Clans are unable to field a team for todays game with Crossmaglen.
Crossmaglen will now get the points.
What's happening at the once proud Francis Street club?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 24, 2007, 12:09:15 PM
Clann Eireann V Cruppen was called off on Friday night, second time that was called off too exile!
Clann Eireann havent played in the league since the 20th of May (4 games called off)!  What's going on there? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 24, 2007, 12:20:42 PM
charlie you are well named on this board, you are indeed a charlie. You put me up a quote were i said the world revolves around North Armagh.  (you may be searching for some time)I am an Armagh man i try not to think in terms of North, South and mid. I don't know where you are from but i hope them windows are electric because you would probably be the type that couldn't use conventional ones.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 24, 2007, 12:25:44 PM
The Clans would have had a team to pay Cross on sunday but we prefered to try and get it off.  we would be a little bit stronger when we get some men back from suspensions. Cross will not be getting the points for the game as they agreed to call it off. So it will be played later in the season. Rumour has it that there was a scuffle at the Harps dromintee game. Two Harps  managers sent off, punches thrown and no yellow cards shown. Someone please tell me that this isn't double standards  :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on June 24, 2007, 01:19:47 PM
who was the Harps Umpire at the scoreboard end on Fri night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 24, 2007, 01:46:57 PM
Say Nothin you are wrong on so many counts it is unreal.

I saw the whole thing from start to finish. The Harps number 2 threw three punches into the body of Dromintees number 13. So I do know who started the row. And I watched as the Harps manager ran on and struck first. It was certainly not retaliation. Both teams were wrong to get involved but you must of been watching a different game or something to come to them conclusions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 24, 2007, 03:46:15 PM
The Bridge and Newtown drew and Ollie Hearty is an unbelievable biased ****!!!!!

We led the whole game and Newtown's equaliser came from a "free" (I only remember them scoring one from play)  in the 4th Minute of injury time. 

Before anyone gives out to me about calling a referee a **** and tell me he does blah blah blah I don't give a f**k!


Me
QuoteClann Eireann V Cruppen was called off on Friday night, second time that was called off too exile!
Clann Eireann havent played in the league since the 20th of May (4 games called off)!  What's going on there?
Heard today there's a split in the club, is it true?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on June 24, 2007, 04:38:18 PM
Culloville deservedly beat Whitecross by two points today and dont worry the todger was kept in the shorts. The only todger out on show was the Quigley one with a whistle.
Any word on other results?
Lissummon beat Clonmore 0-10 to 1-04
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 24, 2007, 05:20:33 PM
jesus your very sensitive win. but i did'nt quote you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 24, 2007, 05:34:47 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 24, 2007, 03:46:15 PM
The Bridge and Newtown drew and Ollie Hearty is an unbelievable biased ****!!!!!

never a truer word spoken. in his head, its not a game at all unless he decides the outcome.

Dromintee hammered tir na nog 2-13 to 0-07. No fight in Tir na nog today unsurprisingly. The only notable thing to report was the county board sending a full set of crossmaglen officials, including a cross player as one of the umpires, to officiate at the game. i wonder is it our turn next week to officiate at a cross match saying as we play in the championship next?

o, and all the harps players played well too before i'm criticised from straying from what we're supposed to talk about....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 24, 2007, 05:38:42 PM
Pearse ogs beat maghery by 2 or 3 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 24, 2007, 06:00:52 PM
Tir Na Nog were missing a number of players from what I gather, can anyone of the Portadown crowd who were down tell me if McAllister was playing? Poor outfit today but on their day the full forward line could be dangerous, very nippy. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 24, 2007, 06:32:31 PM
St Pats beat Ballymacnab 0-12 to 0-8. Not the greatest game. Very poor standard in the second half although Cullyhanna were fairly comfortable throughout. Probably had the game won at half time. Good to keep in the winning habit.

Look Ollie Hearty mightn't be the best referee in the county but to say he's biased simply isn't fair. To be honest I doubt there's a referee in the country who goes out to deliberately cost a team a matches. They make mistakes, some more than others but I really don't think very many are biased.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 24, 2007, 06:35:50 PM

Whilst i'd agree that the majority of refs who effect the outcome of games do not do so intentionally and are usually as bad for both teams, i wouldn't include hearty in that. he's the most vindictive, biased ref i've ever seen. i agree that he is determined to decide the result of games and lord save you if he decides before the game that you ain't winning.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 24, 2007, 06:39:02 PM
Ollie Hearty is vice chair of our beloved county board and therefore it goes without saying would be above unduly influencing any game he take charge of, even if one of the teams is very close neighbours. Must go time for my tablets. On another issue i hope jarlaith burns description of derry does not come back to haunt him .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 24, 2007, 06:53:05 PM
QuoteRumour has it that there was a scuffle at the Harps dromintee game. Two Harps  managers sent off,
If this is true then this would be the second time Dominic Clarke was odered off the field by a referee.  The first time was against Whitecross.  Don't know what suspension he received.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on June 24, 2007, 07:11:01 PM
Ollie Hearty. I have to admit, i don't rate him much as a referee. He seems to have teams he either likes or dislikes. A few years back when Harps seemed to get Keady every year in the championship he tried his best to rob us, clearly showing a dislike for several players. However i must admit, he did our game against Maghery last week, and was very favourable towards us, he rather harshly awarded us some soft frees, whilst letting our defence go with quite a lot of rough tackling, quickly penalising Maghery for lifting the ball off the ground, not so quick to call it on us..

What goes around comes around i guess, but i must say, he may not dislike any team, but he certainly seems to choose one team to be harsh on in each game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on June 24, 2007, 07:12:26 PM
O and Harps suffered another loss at the hands of Mullaghbawn today, should have got a draw at the very least, our shooting let us down badly. Think the final score was 0-11 to 0-07.

Anyone have the league tables?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 24, 2007, 07:43:28 PM
Listen tac I realise that yous are having a love affair with the county board (and why not) but by your comments I can only assume you've never been on the receiving end of him.

He has never ever given the Bridge anything.  From the very beginning today our lads couldn't tackle a Newtown Player or it was a free kick and the ball automatically moved up 20 yards.  The very few free kicks we got Newtown regularly kicked the ball down the field, he didn't want to know!  I lost count of how many times he blew up when we were in possession to throw the ball up for one reason or another!  In the first half, Newtown were on the attack and our CHB and was being wrestled to the ground, everyone roaring at Ollie about what was going on; he waited until our defence broke up the attack and were coming out with the ball before blowing up and throwing up the ball!!! Similar thing happened when one of the Newtown players went down injured, again while they were attacking, he waited until our defence won the ball before blowing up for the injured player and throwing the ball up! Same thing again in the second half only it was one of our players down injured while newtwon were attacking and again he waited until our defence had the ball and he kindly blew up to allow our player to receive treatment and threw up the ball!!!

In injury time he must have given newtown about 4 scoreable frees which they missed!  Then the most bizarre thing happened, our corner back was coming out with the ball and beside him two players ran into each other and both went down injured - our corner back was then fouled and ollie blew up and singled a free kick for him.  He then comes walking over to were the two players were down injured, pointed to them and  singled a f**king hop ball!!!! He threw the ball up and newtown, of course, got a free from it and knocked it over, game over!!!

Actually, when I say that was the most bizare thing that happened, I tell a lie! The most bizarre thing was when he give newtown a free when our Niall Reel was coming out with the ball and our Stefan Murphy ran into him!!!! He blew for a free to newton WHAT THE f**k!!!!

I could go on....

It's amazing he has never got the head taken off him!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 24, 2007, 07:48:13 PM
no one can swing low enough to take head of the little cnut.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 24, 2007, 08:31:44 PM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 24 JUNE 2007


Tuesday 19 June

ACL – Division II
Silverbridge v Clann Eireann (Off)


Wednesday 20 June

ACL – Division II
Clan na Gael 0-13; Whitecross 0-15

ACL – Division III
Tullysaran 0-8; Crossmaglen II 1-8


Friday 22 June

ACL – Division I
Maghery 1-9; Mullaghbawn 0-4
Harps 1-10; Dromintee 0-10
Pearse Og 2-12; Tir na nÓg 1-6

ACL – Division II
Carrickcruppen v Clann Eireann (Off)
Ballymacnab 1-7; Granemore 1-10
Keady 1-9; St Patrick's 0-15
St Michael's 3-13; St Peter's 1-10

ACL – Division
Middletown v Ballyhegan (Off)
Crossmaglen II 0-5; Clonmore 2-5
Clady 0-11; Lissummon 3-8

ACL – Division IV
Phelim Brady's 1-7; Dorsey Emmett's 2-11
Shane O'Neill's 0-8; Derrynoose 0-5


Sunday 24 June

ACL – Division I
Clan na Gael v Crossmaglen (Off)
Whitecross 0-11; Culloville 0-13
Mullaghbawn 0-11; Harps 0-7
Maghery 0-8; Pearse Og 0-11
Dromintee 2-13; Tir na nÓg 0-7

ACL – Division II
Annaghmore 0-11; Killeavey 1-19
Clann Eireann 2-7; St Peter's 0-11
Keady v Carrickcruppen (Off)
St Patrick's 0-12; Ballymacnab 0-8
Silverbridge 1-9; St Michael's 0-12
Wolfe Tones 2-8; Granemore 4-16

ACL – Division III
Ballyhegan 0-9; Madden 1-11
Collegeland 0-11; St Paul's 0-9
Lissummon 0-10; Clonmore 0-7
An Port Mor 1-11; Clady 1-7
Sarsfields v Middletown (Off)

ACL – Division IV
Belleek 1-10; O'Hanlon's 0-7
Derrynoose 3-16; Phelim Brady's 0-5
Dorsey Emmett's 1-9; Grange 1-8
Eire Og 1-7; Mullaghbrack 1-6
Shane O'Neill's 0-6; Forkhill 0-5



ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007


Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 9 8 0 1 16
Mullaghbawn 10 5 2 3 12
Dromintee 9 5 1 3 11
Pearse Og 9 5 1 3 11
Maghery 8 4 1 3 9
Whitecross 8 4 0 4 8
Clan na Gael 7 2 2 3 6
Culloville 8 2 1 5 5
Harps 9 2 1 6 5
Tir na nÓg 9 1 1 7 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
St Patrick's 8 8 0 0 16
Killeavey 10 8 0 2 16
Silverbridge 9 6 1 2 13
Carrickcruppen 6 5 0 1 10
St Michael's 9 4 2 3 10
Clann Eireann 6 3 0 3 6
Granemore 7 3 0 4 6
Ballymacnab 10 3 0 7 6
Keady 9 2 1 6 5
St Peter's 8 2 0 6 4
Annaghmore 9 2 0 7 4
Wolfe Tones 9 1 2 6 4

Division III
P W D L Pts
Madden 8 8 0 0 16
An Port Mor 9 7 0 2 14
Collegeland 8 6 0 2 12
Sarsfields 8 6 0 2 12
Lissummon 9 6 0 3 12
Ballyhegan 8 4 0 4 8
Tullysaran 10 3 2 5 8
St Paul's 8 2 1 5 5
Middletown 5 2 0 3 4
Clonmore 9 2 0 7 4
Crossmaglen II 8 1 1 6 3
Clady 10 0 2 8 2

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Grange 7 6 0 1 12
Belleek 8 6 0 2 12
Eire Og 8 6 0 2 12
Shane O'Neill's 7 5 1 1 11
Derrynoose 8 5 0 3 10
Dorsey Emmett's 8 4 2 2 10
Forkhill 8 4 0 4 8
Mullaghbrack 8 4 0 4 8
O'Hanlon's 9 2 1 6 5
Corrinshego 9 1 0 8 2
Phelim Brady's 10 0 0 10 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 24, 2007, 08:36:15 PM
QuoteCulloville deservedly beat Whitecross by two points today and dont worry the todger was kept in the shorts. The only todger out on show was the Quigley one with a whistle.

What did the referee do wrong in this game and had he any effect on the outcome.  Was the Whitecross
FLASHER
playing today?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: banjoz on June 24, 2007, 09:31:40 PM
Quote from: corn02 on June 24, 2007, 06:00:52 PM
Tir Na Nog were missing a number of players from what I gather, can anyone of the Portadown crowd who were down tell me if McAllister was playing? Poor outfit today but on their day the full forward line could be dangerous, very nippy. 


no mcallister wasnt playing plus we picked up a few injuries on friday night.starting to panic a bit cant buy a win at the moment while other teams at the bottom have hit a bit of form.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 24, 2007, 10:59:39 PM
quiet weekend for cruppen with no games at all! on friday night our game was off with clann eireann as a mark of respect to a former trustee of clann eireann club who died!

today we travelled to keady and the ref never bothered his arse turning up or even informing anyone that he wasn't turning up either!

we are now 3 or 4 games behind everyone else in the league in terms of games played, could come back to haunt us later in the year whenever we will probably have to cram them all in to get the fixtures fulfilled!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on June 24, 2007, 11:14:19 PM
Not that it matters but I thought the final score was 1-18 to 0-11 in the Annaghmore game.  Any posters from Killeavy on here today because I need to get a report into the paper and dont want it to be wrong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 25, 2007, 12:08:36 AM
Banjoz who was the number 13, a fair haired fella?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 25, 2007, 08:44:42 AM
could be james donnelly, a very quick young lad!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 25, 2007, 10:06:08 AM
QuoteBallyhegan 0-9; Madden 1-11

A fairly entertaining game in Ballyhegan Park yesterday. With Madden coming out with a deserved win.

Ballyhegan are very short on numbers at the moment, minus P McGrane, P McKeever & now P Courtney (who's went to Boston!) put up a very hearty performance against the league leaders (who were without the McElvanna's).

Madden dominated the most of the 1st half with their centre forward providing wonderful ball from deep into a very pacey & potent full forward line, esp. Pat McKenna. Madden spurned at least 3 goal chances in this half with some excellent saves from former county minor GK Johnny McKeever. Ballyhegan rallied late in the 2nd half with 3 quick scores, leaving the half time score 0.05 - 0.06.

Madden again started brightly in the 1st 10 minutes of the second half, waltzing through the Ballyhegan rearguard & slotting a well taken goal under the goal keeper. This goal was the killer & although points were exchanged between the sides. The gap remained unassailable.

Best on the day for Ballyhegan were Johnny McKeever, Ruairi McKeever & especially Mel Courtney who had a smashing hour working his socks off & being rewarded with 3 fine scores from play!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goldenyears on June 25, 2007, 10:17:14 AM
has mark rooney transferred from bosco to carrickcruppin?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 25, 2007, 10:39:16 AM
No Clans men off this weekend :P no defeat ;D the match with Cross called off, thank fcuk. Only having a laugh there lads, i c you's all had games at the weekend with the exception of Clann Eireann.

Goats whats the big attraction in Boston as a couple of lads i know are heading there tomorrow for footy as well, although alchol and women will prob me more used than an O'neills ball.

Our minors play Tullysaren in the minor championship who i am led to believe have 4 players on the county minor set up, they must have a decent team. No disrespect to Tullysaren but where the hell is it, is it in the outskirts of Armagh city (which was my guess)????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 25, 2007, 11:07:01 AM
I know Big Paul's brother played out there a few years ago. I'd say he's been set up with a job & what ever else...great oportunity for anyone, can't blame him!

'saran is about 5 miles out of Armagh near Blackwater & Benburb.

I think this minor side defeated Cross in the U16 final 2 years ago??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 25, 2007, 11:54:51 AM
mark rooney's transfer from bosco to cruppen is being processed at the minute - last reports i heard that the form is with bosco and that they are willing to sign it as he is leaving co. down, had he wished to transfer to another co. down club they wouldn't sign it!

did he captain down u21 in the all-ireland a few years back?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 25, 2007, 12:06:08 PM
Jaysus diesel - what is going on at Cruppen?
Why are players coming/thinking of coming to yourselves?
How do players who have been there all their careers feel about standing on the line?
Mind you, if you can get pass Portydown (seem to have went to pieces since the Clans game) & get a favourable draw you could end up in the county final :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 25, 2007, 12:18:23 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 25, 2007, 10:39:16 AM
No Clans men off this weekend :P no defeat ;D the match with Cross called off, thank fcuk.

Called off me hole, I heard Clanns DNF or more likely would not field.  Cross have got the points from what I've been hearing from my Cross spy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 25, 2007, 12:24:40 PM
Clans DNF, points to Cross AFAIK.

In regards to Cruppen, I may be wrong but if they made the Final, they are the last team to beat Cross in any senior final at all levels, back in 1982 I think.  Could they repeat it? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 25, 2007, 12:51:49 PM
illdecide,
wat time is that minor match 2nite??
the clans and tullysaran are the 2 favourites for the minor championship this year i believe so it should be a good Game!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 25, 2007, 01:06:58 PM
Heard that Clans could not field either :o
How times have changed illdecide. This time last year the Clans were riding high at the top of Div 1
No doubt it is all a conspiracy by those pesky referees ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 25, 2007, 01:15:34 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on June 25, 2007, 12:51:49 PM
illdecide,
wat time is that minor match 2nite??
the clans and tullysaran are the 2 favourites for the minor championship this year i believe so it should be a good Game!

the match is in Davitt Park, 7:30 throw in. Clans beat Saren in the U16 county final 2 years ago so they will be looking for revenge tonight and i supose if they got 4 of their players onto the county panel it should be a cracker.

As for the match that did not happen at the weekend, i was not aware that Cross got the points (is that certain???) As a player i was told on Friday night the match was off and was not given an explanation why nor did i ask. I was lead to belive that Cross agrred to put the game off so i assumed it would be replayed at a later date. But as you guys have stated on the board there must be more versions floating around, and i wouldn't be surprised if we lost the points and if that is the case our management needs a severe beating >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 25, 2007, 01:22:24 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 25, 2007, 01:15:34 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on June 25, 2007, 12:51:49 PM
illdecide,
wat time is that minor match 2nite??
the clans and tullysaran are the 2 favourites for the minor championship this year i believe so it should be a good Game!

the match is in Davitt Park, 7:30 throw in. Clans beat Saren in the U16 county final 2 years ago so they will be looking for revenge tonight and i supose if they got 4 of their players onto the county panel it should be a cracker.

As for the match that did not happen at the weekend, i was not aware that Cross got the points (is that certain???) As a player i was told on Friday night the match was off and was not given an explanation why nor did i ask. I was lead to belive that Cross agrred to put the game off so i assumed it would be replayed at a later date. But as you guys have stated on the board there must be more versions floating around, and i wouldn't be surprised if we lost the points and if that is the case our management needs a severe beating >:(

That is exactly the sort of attitude & lack of discipline that got the Clans into this mess :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 25, 2007, 01:24:58 PM
Quote from: full back on June 25, 2007, 01:06:58 PM
Heard that Clans could not field either :o
How times have changed illdecide. This time last year the Clans were riding high at the top of Div 1
No doubt it is all a conspiracy by those pesky referees ;)

Sorry to disapoint you FB but it was nothing to do with referee's. The Clans are a bit light in numbers at the minute and i would not tell you a lie about that but we def could have fielded a team against Cross(def wouldn't have been our strongest team but we would have fielded). We have 4-5 minors on the panel and because of the minor championship tonight it would not have been fair to ask these cubs to play against Cross on a sunday and expect to be at their best for the championship the following night as well as the risk of injury.

And yes it's times like this where you find out who the real club -men are and who the assholes are, when your winning you could field enough for 2 teams but a few defeats and the usuall suspects all of a suden disapear of the panel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 25, 2007, 02:10:41 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 25, 2007, 12:24:40 PM
In regards to Cruppen, I may be wrong but if they made the Final, they are the last team to beat Cross in any senior final at all levels, back in 1982 I think.  Could they repeat it? ;)

Assuming cross are there of course bc....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 25, 2007, 02:26:59 PM
Hence the wink.  Teams who assume anything generally get nothing!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 25, 2007, 02:34:30 PM
So what does everyone think the Armagh gasme being in Derry?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 25, 2007, 02:37:15 PM
what you mean corn?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 25, 2007, 02:40:06 PM
Although I am disappointed it has been moved, the county board deserve everything they get. How long have they had now to develop a ground worthy of holding a championship game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 25, 2007, 02:42:27 PM
What has happened? Where has game been moved to?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 25, 2007, 02:44:39 PM
High Catch, the game has been announced at 4pm in Celtic Park on the 7th because Armagh does not have a suitable venue.

I still expect it to be moved to Clones, and I assume Armagh would have preference it again highlights the moron attitude of the County Board in not cashing in on the post 2000 craze.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 25, 2007, 03:07:55 PM

who says its fixed for derry? i havent seen nor heard this from anywhere official yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 25, 2007, 03:20:00 PM
Blacksheep posted on the qualifiers thread. I assume he is not making it up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 25, 2007, 03:21:33 PM
Now appears that Armagh will be on a double header on the Sunday judging by conversation on the qualifiers thread.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 25, 2007, 04:10:47 PM
clones 8th @ 4pm def
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on June 25, 2007, 04:47:03 PM
so with armagh playing on the 8th, and possibly playing on the next two sundays following, is the senior champsionship in armagh not going to be played to august?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on June 25, 2007, 05:00:02 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on June 25, 2007, 04:47:03 PM
so with armagh playing on the 8th, and possibly playing on the next two sundays following, is the senior champsionship in armagh not going to be played to august?

Thats assuming we beat Derry...... ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on June 25, 2007, 09:45:10 PM
If Armagh beat Derry on Sunday 8th, I think they would play their next match the following Saturday evening with the Ulster Final on the next day ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 25, 2007, 10:31:10 PM
any results in the minor championship tonight?

cruppen beat middletown 2-11 to 0-10 in middletown! the old adage of a game of two halfs was used tonight! gale force wind blowing down the field favoured middletown in the first half, they led 0-7 to 0-2 at the interval.
in the second half cruppen had the wind and scored an impressive 2-9 to middletown's 3 points!

as regards cruppen being in the championship final - that sort of talk is utter nonsense and absurd! we take one game at a time and will be focusing on st.peters this friday night!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 25, 2007, 10:38:11 PM
full back - in response to your post regarding lads transferring to cruppen

the rooney's have lived all their lives in cloughreagh/bessbrook area but played for the bosco in newry because their father played for them! they are in the cruppen catchment area and want to join us! they went to school and grew up with alot of our players!

the only other player that joined cruppen was david kelly from clann eireann! david is married and has been living in camlough for the past couple of years, his in-laws are all cruppen people so he joined us this year! he has been a massive player for us so far this season!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on June 25, 2007, 11:25:16 PM
Minor Championship

Harps 5-11
Dromintee 2-5

Harps: As the score suggests they run away with the game but up until a period it was a rather tough and hard hitting affair, matters from a dromintee perspective got worse when their corner back/3rdmidfielder was straight redded for striking. It was all uphill from there and Harps finshed well.

Also,
Keady 3-11
Corrinshego 0-4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Saran Man on June 25, 2007, 11:39:15 PM
Tullysaran minors beat Clan Na Gael tonight in fairly entertaining game in Davitt Park.  Sides were evenly matched in first half with Tullysara pulling away in the second.  Final Score Tullysaran 1-12 Clan Na Gael 1-7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 25, 2007, 11:47:34 PM
oliver plunketts beat st.peters 4-14 to 1-6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 26, 2007, 08:29:31 AM
Quote from: Saran Man on June 25, 2007, 11:39:15 PM
Tullysaran minors beat Clan Na Gael tonight in fairly entertaining game in Davitt Park.  Sides were evenly matched in first half with Tullysara pulling away in the second.  Final Score Tullysaran 1-12 Clan Na Gael 1-7

It wasn't a bad game with Saran def the better team, they deserved their win. Good crowd at the game and played in good spirits, the Saran have a fair chance of reaching the last four at least as they have some excellent footballers. My only concern about them is they are a bit on the small side and might struggle against some of the bigger teams but they sure as hell can play football and we wish them well in the rest of the tournament.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 26, 2007, 11:03:38 AM
Not often the Clans are gracious in defeat illdecide - perhaps the referee's are onto something here  :P

Any word of the game from Sunday regarding not fielding?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stranworst on June 26, 2007, 11:29:25 AM
Qub la la la, what do you think of your teams latest acquisition?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 26, 2007, 12:08:55 PM
Quote from: full back on June 26, 2007, 11:03:38 AM
Not often the Clans are gracious in defeat illdecide - perhaps the referee's are onto something here  :P

Any word of the game from Sunday regarding not fielding?

Well its like this FB you have to call a spade a spade, best team won. I will make that call all the time if we are beat by a better team i will say so, i read back several pages and it was a pure whining session about ref's. Like i said after this year when a certain group of players leave the team, things will change (regarding yapping at ref's etc etc)

Remember i did say Porty deserved to beat us in the senior championship as well.

I was asking the lads about this in the club last night and they did not know either, they said that Cross agreed to call the match off. so if thats the case i can't see us loosing the points if both teams agree not to play. But there's always to sides to a story and thats ours :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 26, 2007, 01:05:36 PM
anyone read paddy heaney's article in todays irish news about referees?

seems every county has the same problems that we have!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling All county B league
Post by: topgun on June 26, 2007, 01:29:52 PM
All County B league imo the intentions are good, and to improve as a footballer you need to test urself against higher quality opposition, but imo the way forward is to create a reserve league with matches being played on the same day as the senior team, for example if all teams in their respective leagues/ divisions have two games on a sunday ie harps reserve team play their counterparts from crossmaglen at 1pm and the seniors play at 2 30pm, this imo would raise the standard of  football within each club and across the county, lord knows something has to be done.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling All county B league
Post by: illdecide on June 26, 2007, 01:35:31 PM
Quote from: topgun on June 26, 2007, 01:29:52 PM
All County B league imo the intentions are good, and to improve as a footballer you need to test urself against higher quality opposition, but imo the way forward is to create a reserve league with matches being played on the same day as the senior team, for example if all teams in their respective leagues/ divisions have two games on a sunday ie harps reserve team play their counterparts from crossmaglen at 1pm and the seniors play at 2 30pm, this imo would raise the standard of  football within each club and across the county, lord knows something has to be done.

Can anyone confirm this: i was speaking to our club secretary last night and he told me that the B-teams this year (as far as he knows) in the b league will join up to play each other. He said the top 4 teams from north, south and mid armagh will play each other in a mini league. ????????????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on June 26, 2007, 01:39:02 PM
yes it is the top 4 from each but imo it would be more beneficial if it was like i said in my first post
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 26, 2007, 01:40:53 PM
AFAIK that is the plan illdecide or something similar to it.

As for topgun's idea, I think what we need to concentrate on is getting decent referee's first. Imagine trying to get 2 decent referee's for each venue on a Sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on June 26, 2007, 01:42:41 PM
maybe the more practise the refs get the better they might become ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 26, 2007, 01:53:16 PM
Quote from: topgun on June 26, 2007, 01:39:02 PM
yes it is the top 4 from each but imo it would be more beneficial if it was like i said in my first post

I know what your saying and it makes sense, but take ourselves for instance. We rely on several players from our reserves to make up the numbers on the senior panel. So we would struggle to get enough players for 2 games on the one day.

But your idea is good, it certainly would give lads a sterner test and a more competive game as the north armagh b-league is crop and a joke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on June 26, 2007, 03:08:18 PM
in theory both teams train together boosting numbers at training, the one management team take both teams, so those playing well get their chance with the seniors, vice versa if someone is lacking confidence they play with the reserves. do away with this naming 15 players(load of bollicks) that cant play B league if you played for the seniors in the championship last year u ar ineligible for the reserve championship, its a win win situation players get football at a higher standard that they can improve from, the 18 to 21 age group that is neglected can flourish with both teams training together competition for places meaning a higher stanard across the county
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 26, 2007, 03:12:54 PM
Quote from: topgun on June 26, 2007, 03:08:18 PM
in theory both teams train together boosting numbers at training,

And reducing the quality
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on June 26, 2007, 03:19:31 PM
increasing competition, increases quality, improves teams, improves players, have you ever coached or trained with 7/8 players compared to 32/33 look at the numbers on the tyrone panel this year 38
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 26, 2007, 03:23:16 PM
yes, but if a team has 18/20 players of a good standard and you add 10 or 12 of lesser ability into training sessions, the quality of drills, intensity of matches and overall productivity falls.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laceer on June 26, 2007, 03:40:01 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 26, 2007, 03:23:16 PM
yes, but if a team has 18/20 players of a good standard and you add 10 or 12 of lesser ability into training sessions, the quality of drills, intensity of matches and overall productivity falls.

it's not a professional club you're running here where if someone aint good enough they're disregarded.how are lesser players meant to develop if they're not playing/training at a decent level?
Quote from: topgun on June 26, 2007, 01:29:52 PM
All County B league imo the intentions are good, and to improve as a footballer you need to test urself against higher quality opposition, but imo the way forward is to create a reserve league with matches being played on the same day as the senior team, for example if all teams in their respective leagues/ divisions have two games on a sunday ie harps reserve team play their counterparts from crossmaglen at 1pm and the seniors play at 2 30pm, this imo would raise the standard of  football within each club and across the county, lord knows something has to be done.

thats how the reserve league is run in tyrone-definitly benifits players comin back from injury,out of form etc. Is also a good stepping stone to the senior teams
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on June 26, 2007, 03:42:20 PM
do u not see how these poorer standard players benefit from training with better players increasing the overal standard, training with poorer players isnt going to lessan your own ability, but give u confidence, so where as you started with 18/20 good players you now have 26/27, and your overal panel has improved. we in armagh need to improve club football as a whole there are teams in our intermediate championship that would struggle in the junior in tyrone and derry, and if you take tyrone as an example theyre senior team is going to be challenging(unfortunatly) for all irelands for the next 3/4 years and they have a healthly senior championship where realistically anyone of 4/5 teams can win it, and they use this system, in armagh whos gonna stop cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 26, 2007, 03:53:17 PM
It's not just teams in Armagh that have problems stopping Cross
To use them as an example is wide of the mark
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on June 26, 2007, 03:59:14 PM
Quoteand if you take tyrone as an example theyre senior team is going to be challenging(unfortunatly) for all irelands for the next 3/4 years and they have a healthly senior championship where realistically anyone of 4/5 teams can win it, and they use this system, in armagh whos gonna stop cross

When we had teams like the Harps, Ogs, Sarsfields, Maghery, Mullaghbawn etc all winning senior championships, we couldnt win an argument at county level. Cross are an exceptional team, thats all there is to it. I agree with the earlier point about having b matches before senior matches, its the best way of showcasing players to make the step up and probably helps creates more comraderie within a club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on June 26, 2007, 04:03:16 PM
 
Quote from: full back on June 26, 2007, 03:53:17 PM
It's not just teams in Armagh that have problems stopping Cross
To use them as an example is wide of the mark

sit you down

they are going for i dont no exactly 11/12 in a row this is a disgrace armagh football needs a strong competitive senior championship, for the benefit of both the county team and club football across the board

Quote from: maddog on June 26, 2007, 03:59:14 PM
Quoteand if you take tyrone as an example theyre senior team is going to be challenging(unfortunatly) for all irelands for the next 3/4 years and they have a healthly senior championship where realistically anyone of 4/5 teams can win it, and they use this system, in armagh whos gonna stop cross

When we had teams like the Harps, Ogs, Sarsfields, Maghery, Mullaghbawn etc all winning senior championships, we couldnt win an argument at county level. Cross are an exceptional team, thats all there is to it. I agree with the earlier point about having b matches before senior matches, its the best way of showcasing players to make the step up and probably helps creates more comraderie within a club.

if im not mistaken armagh took the eventual all ireland champions to a replay in 1993, ulster as whole was very strong in the early 90s, and there was no back door system as there is now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 26, 2007, 04:06:56 PM
From what I have heard the format of the All county B league is, Top 4 from North, Mid & South, teams 1 & 3 and 2 & 4 from each section are split into 2 groups leaving 2 groups of 6. Each team has 5 games, I'd assume top 2 from each section play in semis.  Games start Wed 18th July and will continue on successive Wed nights.  

I think the 'Tyrone' format is a good idea as well, practicalities of it are that most teams would struggle to field 30/40 players on any given Sunday.  I actually had this discussion not a fortnight ago and mentioned that I thought we'd struggle with numbers and the answer I got was 'if it happens you'll have no bother fielding' - not a very practical answer.

Maghery didn't win a SFC btw.  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on June 26, 2007, 04:16:39 PM

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if im not mistaken armagh took the eventual all ireland champions to a replay in 1993, ulster as whole was very strong in the early 90s, and there was no back door system as there is now
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If you were standing in the Athletic Grounds Armagh v Down in 1992 first round, "strong" is not a word i would use to describe Armagh that day. And in 1993 we took the defending champions to a replay was it not?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 26, 2007, 04:39:50 PM
Quote from: topgun on June 26, 2007, 03:42:20 PM
do u not see how these poorer standard players benefit from training with better players increasing the overal standard, training with poorer players isnt going to lessan your own ability, but give u confidence, so where as you started with 18/20 good players you now have 26/27, and your overal panel has improved.

In my experience, you weaken your overall quality with this. the lesser players do marginally improve over the course of a season of training at a higher standard but when the basic skills quality falls down at various points of training sessions, it is difficult to regain. that is when standards slip and bad habits eek their way into players' games. this doesn't apply to young players coming through from minor grade... they will obviously improve rapidly training with the best players. at smaller clubs in particular, you find there'll be 16/18 players well fit for the standard you're playing at plus another 10 who are well off that standard. teams like the harps or cross may have potentially 24/26 ofa similar standard?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on June 26, 2007, 10:16:11 PM
Heard tonight this w/ends games are now to be played on Sunday @ 7:30 and not Friday night.  Anyone know if this is true?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 26, 2007, 10:23:51 PM
Louis the red i hope that rumour is true because it would suit me into the ground and allow me to ge to our game. Was that a realiable source?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on June 26, 2007, 10:33:52 PM
Well I know the Ogs game has been changed for deffo.  Heard they all had been changed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 26, 2007, 11:12:38 PM
yeah the games have been changed back til sunday evening! they had been put on friday night to accommodate anyone wanting to go to the ulster ladies final in clones but for some reason they are back on sunday evening at 7 or 7:30.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 26, 2007, 11:14:54 PM
Wouldn't Friday evening be a better time? 
Not that either suits me.   :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 26, 2007, 11:58:04 PM
we have re-fixture against st. peters on friday night!

got st. pat's sunday evening pints! it will be a tough one for us!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 27, 2007, 08:34:47 AM
The Clans have asked Harps for a Sunday match as well, haven't heard the outcome yet.

Def would prefer a Sunday game than Friday night. It means i get away from going to the dreaded outlaws for the Sunday dinner (o sorry i mean't inlaws)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 27, 2007, 10:52:48 AM
as posted on the Harps thread:

Harps V Culloville  Friday @ 8pm
Harps V Clans    Sunday @ 7pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 27, 2007, 11:48:03 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E WEDNESDAY 4 JULY 2007


Wednesday 27 June

ACL – Division IV (8.00)
O'Hanlon's v Shane O'Neill's (Kevin Gallogly)


Saturday 30 June

ACL – Division I (7.00)
Crossmaglen v Whitecross (Paul Boylan)


Sunday 1 July

ACL – Division I (7.00)
Harps v Clan na Gael (Dessie McDonnell)
Culloville v Dromintee (Mickey Leonard)
Pearse Og v Mullaghbawn (Jim Burns)

ACL – Division II (7.00)
Ballymacnab v Annaghmore (Henry McCloy)
Carrickcruppen v St Peter's (Eamon Nugent)
Clann Eireann v Wolfe Tones (Jim Slevin)
Granemore v Silverbridge (Kevin Murtagh)
St Michael's v Keady (Kevin McNeice)
St Peter's v Killeavey (Tony O'Hare)

ACL – Division III (7.00)
Clady v Ballyhegan (Tony Watters)
Clonmore v An Port Mor (Paul Seacroft)
Collegeland v Tullysaran (Gary Smith)
Middletown v Lissummon (Off)
St Paul's v Madden (Noel Martin)
Crossmaglen II v Sarsfields

ACL – Division IV (7.00)
Corrinshego v Belleek (Stephen McKinley)
Forkhill v Eire Og (Jimmy McKee)
Grange v Derrynoose (Oliver Hearty)
Mullaghbrack v Dorsey Emmett's (Damian McConville)


Monday 2 July

Minor Football Championship – 1st Round (7.30)
Madden v St Enda's (Henry McCloy)


Wednesday 4 July

ACL – Division I (8.00)
Tir na nÓg v Maghery (Gerard Devlin)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 27, 2007, 12:00:25 PM
excellent news lads to say i was happy would be an understatement. Are those definite High Catch?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 27, 2007, 12:11:52 PM
They are taken from the Orchard County website and this site is usually accurate with the fixtures, results and tables.

I see there are no fixtures down for Friday night, maybe this will be used for re-fixtures and therefore would not be on the above fixtures.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 27, 2007, 12:21:48 PM
jaysus st. peters must be some team as they are able to play cruppen and killeavey at the same time!

we are to play st. pats on sunday night!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 27, 2007, 12:30:29 PM
Quotewe are to play st. pats on sunday night!
Dont forget the gum shields.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on June 27, 2007, 01:08:04 PM
why where the fixtures changed to sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 27, 2007, 01:17:47 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 27, 2007, 12:30:29 PM
Quotewe are to play st. pats on sunday night!
Dont forget the gum shields.

Tell ya what pints, if the Cullyhanna lads find out who you are you'll not be allowd through them parts again :D :D

Did you always have a frosty relationship with them lads or was it that incident last year that done it??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: I SHOT JR on June 27, 2007, 03:27:50 PM
Always intense rivalry between the bridge and cullyhanna. Cullyhanna were filthy years ago but judging on last year, the new breed are just as bad.  Last years act was a disgrace!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 27, 2007, 03:47:42 PM
wasn't it cullyhanna that Darcy split from?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 27, 2007, 04:21:40 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 27, 2007, 03:47:42 PM
wasn't it cullyhanna that Darcy split from?

WSS as far as i know, YES. They are called Dorsey Emmets now and St Pats Cullyhanna. Although the south Armagh Brigade will correct me on this if i'm wrong
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 27, 2007, 05:42:26 PM
Yeah they split a few years ago and Dorsey Emmets were formed - the oul boys will still call the knackers dorsey.

Always intense enough rivalry between the clubs but it was mainly just the normal stuff you'd get between neighbouring clubs. 

It's gone a lot further than that now but I know for me the bad feeling comes more from what happened in the weeks and months after the match.  I mean after the match we'd their club members crying and apologising and blaming that **** Casey that's over them, he was being sacked and so on.  What do they do?  They appeal their suspensions, they play the one player that's suppose to be suspended and the reappoint casey (a man who sends his team out to get a game abandoned - that's from coward mal mackins mouth!)  as manager this year. 

About a week after that game with us a young fella in cross received an awful hammering from a group of Cullyhanna boys, his crime you ask?  His da won their lotto and is related to a top man in St. Pats.  I think that says it all about them!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 27, 2007, 09:47:52 PM
Dorsey Emmets are a grand we club progressing well, new pitch and club rooms as far as i know . Unfair to comperre them to cullyhanna.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on June 27, 2007, 09:56:22 PM
silvebridge B team beat cruppin tonight by about 5 points. it was a tight game throughout with the 'bridge maintaining a 1 point advantage until seamie martin scored a goal near the end.  not the most convincing performance by the 'bridge but a win none the less while we prepare for the championship final next wednesday night against cullyhanna.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 27, 2007, 10:02:34 PM
are they still unbeaten from last year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on June 27, 2007, 10:06:21 PM
yeah were still unbeaten although i think we drew 1 game in the league. not sure who it was against though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CelticWater on June 27, 2007, 10:50:26 PM
Any word on Dromintee v Culloville in the B's? who played well? Thinkin of making a return for Dromintee!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 28, 2007, 08:12:48 AM
I'm told Ballyhegan Davitts beat the Ogs in the Mid Armagh B Final last nihgt by 3 points!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 28, 2007, 08:42:12 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on June 28, 2007, 08:12:48 AM
I'm told Ballyhegan Davitts beat the Ogs in the Mid Armagh B Final last nihgt by 3 points!  ;D

True. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on June 28, 2007, 08:50:45 AM
el curvo, were you at it, Ballyhegan must have improved seriously, remember the Harps bating them out the gate last year. Thought the Ogs B, sorry development squad had this one in the bag.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 28, 2007, 09:02:13 AM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on June 28, 2007, 08:50:45 AM
el curvo, were you at it, Ballyhegan must have improved seriously, remember the Harps bating them out the gate last year. Thought the Ogs B, sorry development squad had this one in the bag.

Ballyhegan def have improved because it's only a couple of yeras ago that they were the whipping boys in North Armagh(maybe whipping boys is a bit over OTT) but i expected the Ogs, Harpe etc to have really good sides.
Anyway fair play to Ballyhegan as they are a good bunch of lads. We actually won a match last night(B-team, we beat Eire Og) So thats what it felt like to win a game, thats the first win between the seniors and B-team in about a month :'( :'(

Dunno if we will make the cut for this new B-team league as we have only played 5 games and have 8pts, i think the cut of date is 1st July.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 28, 2007, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on June 28, 2007, 08:50:45 AM
el curvo, were you at it, Ballyhegan must have improved seriously, remember the Harps bating them out the gate last year. Thought the Ogs B, sorry development squad had this one in the bag.

Thats because I was playing!!  :D

We've a lot of young fellas coming through & enjoying playing B football. It's Chalie McKeever's second year over the same group & he's introducing a lot of the younger fellas to senior football.

I think this team beat the Ogs in the B league this year also.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 28, 2007, 10:02:43 AM
where was the match played lastnite?? would have loved to have watched it, where the 2 mckeever twins playin???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 28, 2007, 10:13:36 AM
Quote from: topgun on June 26, 2007, 04:03:16 PM
Quote from: full back on June 26, 2007, 03:53:17 PM
It's not just teams in Armagh that have problems stopping Cross
To use them as an example is wide of the mark

sit you down

they are going for i dont no exactly 11/12 in a row this is a disgrace armagh football needs a strong competitive senior championship, for the benefit of both the county team and club football across the board



What a load of balls topgun.
Its a disgrace that Cross are going for x amount of titles in a row ::)
I suppose its a disgrace that they won 4 AI club titles in that period as well, the country need a competitive senior club championship ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 28, 2007, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: Candyman on June 28, 2007, 10:02:43 AM
where was the match played lastnite?? would have loved to have watched it, where the 2 mckeever twins playin???

I wasn't at it & waiting to hear the team, but Mark is ineligible as he played for the seniors this year.

Shane however, has been lining out centre half forward for the B's all year. & Playing very well (When he does the simple thing!!!)
- Could do with him in the seniors (If he'd stay committed)!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on June 28, 2007, 10:55:13 AM
As a lurker for a year or so now, I have read pints' comments on the St Pat's v Silverbridge melee. I was at the matches as a neutral with a "loose" connection to St Pat's (i.e. the in-laws) and ]fully agree with him on the thuggish behaviour of some the Cullyhanna boys was unacceptable and I also can't believe a right-minded committee could re-instate Casey as manager.  But I feel that it's fair to also draw people's attention to the fact that the Silverbridge no.12 tramped on two defenceless Cullyhanna players as they lay on the ground in the first match, seriously injuring both of them (one of them was a lad that I believe he spent a lot of time travelling up to college in Belfast with). And from where I was sitting in the second match the Silverbridge fans were all too keen to join in the fun on the pitch also.  So this notion that he's portraying that all the thugs were on the St Pat's side is laughable.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on June 28, 2007, 11:10:53 AM
Sunningdale for slow leaners ??? ???wtf
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on June 28, 2007, 11:23:51 AM
Annaghmore drew with Tir Na Nog in the B league last night.  Tir Na Nog lead for most of the match despite playing against the wind in the first half.  However the wind died down in the second half and Annaghmore finished the stronger requiring Tir Na Nog to score with the last kick of the match to salvage a draw.  Probably a fair result even though Tir Na Nog came close with a number of goal chances.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 28, 2007, 11:47:16 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on June 28, 2007, 11:23:51 AM
Annaghmore drew with Tir Na Nog in the B league last night.  Tir Na Nog lead for most of the match despite playing against the wind in the first half.  However the wind died down in the second half and Annaghmore finished the stronger requiring Tir Na Nog to score with the last kick of the match to salvage a draw.  Probably a fair result even though Tir Na Nog came close with a number of goal chances.

Where would you get up to date league tables for the B's so we can see who will go through???? The B tables would not be up to date the way the senior tables are but surly someone somewhere has them????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue is the colour on June 28, 2007, 12:28:14 PM
Quote from: CelticWater on June 27, 2007, 10:50:26 PM
Any word on Dromintee v Culloville in the B's? who played well? Thinkin of making a return for Dromintee!
Culloville bet Dromintee by 6pts i tink, Culloville were always in control & Dromintee neva looked as if they would come back at any stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 28, 2007, 12:41:27 PM
Quote from: mackers on June 28, 2007, 10:55:13 AM
As a lurker for a year or so now, I have read pints' comments on the St Pat's v Silverbridge melee. I was at the matches as a neutral with a "loose" connection to St Pat's (i.e. the in-laws) and ]fully agree with him on the thuggish behaviour of some the Cullyhanna boys was unacceptable and I also can't believe a right-minded committee could re-instate Casey as manager.  But I feel that it's fair to also draw people's attention to the fact that the Silverbridge no.12 tramped on two defenceless Cullyhanna players as they lay on the ground in the first match, seriously injuring both of them (one of them was a lad that I believe he spent a lot of time travelling up to college in Belfast with). And from where I was sitting in the second match the Silverbridge fans were all too keen to join in the fun on the pitch also.  So this notion that he's portraying that all the thugs were on the St Pat's side is laughable.

A lurker for a year or so but you only feel the need to comment now?
THuggish behaviour of some Cullyhanna boys?  Hilarious!  It was one or two bad apples was it?
Silverbridge's number 12 stood on one player in the first game, offered his immediate apology and contacted him after the game to apologise again and inquire about him.  I'm led to believe it was accidental though if it wasn't he was totally wrong.
I'd love to know who the second player was?  If you're going to say Ciaran McKeever, don't bother, you're wrong and I've been through this with someone before who, similar to you, had about 5 posts on the board and went away when I challenged his nonsense.
If you want to talk about thuggery in the first match why don't you talk about Ciaran McKeever, in the first 30 seconds, sprinting 20 yards to run into the back of young Eugene Byrne (a minor at the time)!
Or you could mention Hoey being sent off after only being on a minute for hitting Gerard McGarvey (another minor at the time!) a thump in the balls?  Or was that more thuggery from the second game...I can't remember now...

And as for the silverbridge fans in the second match.  Um What did they do exactly? I don't recall any real reaction.  The only bridge men who reacted in the stand were the two who ran to shut the gates onto the field (after they were abandoned by the so called
stewarts).  I do recall the subs reacting when cormac McAvoy who was on his knees in front of the stand with the managers shirt to his face trying to stop the blood being attacked and his attacker then standing on the wire clearing his throat into the stand.  I wonder what some of his own club mates who were on the receiving end of his phlem thought of that.  Thankfully the subs, with encouragment from more senior club men, then showed as much maturity and dignity as our boys on the field. 
And tell me Mackers what you would have done if you seen lads from your club at 18, 19 and 20 years of age (like most of our boys that day) being assaulted in the manner they were?  I didn't think either sets of supporters could be faulted for their actions.

Cullyhanna were a disgrace that day and as far as I'd be concerned it was one of our clubs proudest.  None of your allegations will take away from that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 28, 2007, 01:00:27 PM
would love to know what is going on in the fixtures committee?

about 6 weeks ago cruppen called off a game against st.peters as a mark of respect to the death of a former player brian o'reilly, and had arranged to play them this friday night both clubs agreed and the fixtures committee had been informed.

then all of a sudden killeavey and st.peters agree to bring forward there game from sunday night til friday night and the fixtures committee agreed to this whenever we have agreed to play st. peters a couple of weeks ago!

STRANGE! leaving us behind in our fixtures by 5 games now!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on June 28, 2007, 01:28:06 PM
Pints, I can honestly say I don't care enough about Cullyhanna to get into a slanging match with you, but there were several men on the field on the second day in suits fighting (in their suits as there was a Bridge wedding on that day). And yes the other victim of your No 12 was Ciaran McKeever, he tried to take the young lad out of it in front of me in the stand and when he was on the ground he was stamped on. Now you may say that he deserved it and fair enough, but what happened the other Cullyhanna lad was inexcusable. I had my 6 year old son at the match and NOTHING of what went on that day was pretty.
My reading of what happened the second day was that after the Bridge started to pull away in extra time your No 12 knew what was going to happen next, signalled to your bench that he was "injured" and when the Cullyhanna lads saw what was happening they wanted to get him before he went off. What happened after that should be an embarassment to the Cullyhanna club, and I know from speaking to a number of decent Cullyhanna men (there are some!) they think it is.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 28, 2007, 02:48:10 PM
was at the game in question pints has it spot on.mackers  how do you sleep at night with your blinkers on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on June 28, 2007, 03:17:47 PM
twotwo, how many times have I to criticise the Cullyhanna men in my posts before you realise I have no blinkers. I was at the game as a neutral, I'm one of those dreaded "county first" men. No major loyalty to any club.
Your fascination with Silverbridge, however, has been questioned by Pints on previous pages.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 28, 2007, 03:47:10 PM
Been through all of this before
If you have been a lurker for so long mackers, why decide to bring it up now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on June 28, 2007, 04:04:44 PM
AMENDED FIXTURES


ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E WEDNESDAY 4 JULY 2007


Wednesday 27 June

ACL – Division IV (8.00)
O'Hanlon's v Shane O'Neill's (Kevin Gallogly)


Friday 29 June

ACL – Division II (8.00)
Granemore v Silverbridge (Kevin Murtagh)
St Peter's v Killeavey (Tony O'Hare)

ACL – Division III (8.00)
Clonmore v An Port Mor (Paul Seacroft)
Collegeland v Tullysaran (Gary Smith)

ACL – Division IV (8.00)
Forkhill v Eire Og (Jimmy McKee)
Mullaghbrack v Dorsey Emmett's (Damian McConville)


Saturday 30 June

ACL – Division I
Culloville v Dromintee (Mickey Leonard) (2.30)
Crossmaglen v Whitecross (Paul Boylan) (7.00)


Sunday 1 July

ACL – Division I (7.00)
Harps v Clan na Gael (Dessie McDonnell)
Pearse Og v Mullaghbawn (Jim Burns)

ACL – Division II (7.00)
Ballymacnab v Annaghmore (Henry McCloy) (2.00)
Carrickcruppen v St Patrick's (Eamon Nugent)
Clann Eireann v Wolfe Tones (Jim Slevin)
St Michael's v Keady (Kevin McNeice)

ACL – Division III (7.00)
Clady v Ballyhegan (Tony Watters)
Clonmore v Middletown (Joe Murtagh) (12.00)
St Paul's v Madden (Noel Martin)
Crossmaglen II v Sarsfields (Paul Rath)

ACL – Division IV (7.00)
Corrinshego v Belleek (Stephen McKinley)
Grange v Derrynoose (Oliver Hearty)
Forkhill v Dorsey Emmett's (Kevin Murtagh) (2.00)


Monday 2 July

Minor Football Championship – 1st Round (7.30)
Madden v St Enda's (Henry McCloy)
(Extra time if required)

Wednesday 4 July

ACL – Division I (8.00)
Tir na nÓg v Maghery (Gerard Devlin)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 28, 2007, 04:18:50 PM
So who are you Celtic Warrior? By Gods by the sounds of it they needed a few new players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on June 28, 2007, 04:27:06 PM
Fair enough full back, look as I said I'm a county man first. I saw myself arguing with Tyronies when I started posting not Silverbridge men!! But the Cullyhanna bashing had started again there with the "bring your gum shields" stuff and I thought I would add my tuppence worth. Nothing sinister.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on June 28, 2007, 04:35:33 PM
are the fixtures defo changed? how comes there is no word bot them in irish news?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on June 28, 2007, 04:47:57 PM
Ah but there is leg-end, check the side articles!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 28, 2007, 05:05:53 PM
And you's told us to dry our eye's and stop moaning about ref's. This fecking Bridge/Cullyhanna thing as draged on a bit (just a bit) ;) ;)

Seriously though there will never be a winner here cause the bridge men blame Cullyhanna and the Cullyhanna men blame the Bridge or we done nothing wrong mentality. Where do we go from here????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 28, 2007, 05:57:01 PM
Quote from: mackers on June 28, 2007, 01:28:06 PM
Pints, I can honestly say I don't care enough about Cullyhanna to get into a slanging match with you, but there were several men on the field on the second day in suits fighting (in their suits as there was a Bridge wedding on that day). And yes the other victim of your No 12 was Ciaran McKeever, he tried to take the young lad out of it in front of me in the stand and when he was on the ground he was stamped on. Now you may say that he deserved it and fair enough, but what happened the other Cullyhanna lad was inexcusable. I had my 6 year old son at the match and NOTHING of what went on that day was pretty.
My reading of what happened the second day was that after the Bridge started to pull away in extra time your No 12 knew what was going to happen next, signalled to your bench that he was "injured" and when the Cullyhanna lads saw what was happening they wanted to get him before he went off. What happened after that should be an embarassment to the Cullyhanna club, and I know from speaking to a number of decent Cullyhanna men (there are some!) they think it is.
You care enough about Cullyhanna and come on and defend them and tell lies!
I use to think there was decent cullyhanna men too, I would have thought it up until I heard Casey was re-appointed manager.  Why in the name of God would any clubman want that **** over their team?  This is a man who sends players out to get a match abandoned and drags the club's name through the mud! Why would you want him!  And also, if Cullyhanna were so ashamed why did they appeal their suspensions?

I've been through the Ciaran McKeever thing before on here, he was not stamped on. He didn't get up after running into Eugene Byrne, what does that tell you?  Or did he lie on the ground waiting to be stamped on?  Btw, nothing would give me greater pleasure to see the **** stamped on, if he was I'd say he was! And yes, he'd deserve it.
I've explained the other incident with our number 12 as I know it to be.  If it was intentional he was totally wrong (and I'm led to believe it was accidental) but you cannot use that to justify what went on the second day. 

QuoteMy reading of what happened the second day was that after the Bridge started to pull away in extra time your No 12 knew what was going to happen next, signalled to your bench that he was "injured" and when the Cullyhanna lads saw what was happening they wanted to get him before he went off.
Well I doubt your reading is wrong.  How did he know what was coming?  As far as I know he's not psychic! And I doubt the same boy wouldn't be looking off even if he did know. 

So you think that the aim was to pay back one player for what he done in the first game?  He actually got out of the row lightly.  What did the other boys do to derseve what they got?

As for men in suits being on the field fighting, that's a lie and you know it is. 


Illdecide
QuoteSeriously though there will never be a winner here cause the bridge men blame Cullyhanna and the Cullyhanna men blame the Bridge or we done nothing wrong mentality. Where do we go from here?
But that's not the case illdecide.  In all the people I've heard talking about this game who were there I'd say I only heard about 5 trying to put some blame on us.  3 of them was on this board and another was on orchardcounty! 
Anyone that was there knows what happened, some will tell lies to try and justify what went on or shift the blame, but they know what happened. 

And in all seriousness I realise most people must be sick to the teeth of this, I'm getting sick talking about it, but like the Conlon thing I won't let allegations against the bridge go unchallenged, particularly when they're lies.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 28, 2007, 06:11:20 PM
well pints whilst i agree with you on the cullyhanna issue it's over done and dusted so lets move on ,but the conlon issue is unresolved and cannot be glossed over. He would have been useful against newtown last sunday do you not agree?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 28, 2007, 06:26:29 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on June 28, 2007, 06:11:20 PM
well pints whilst i agree with you on the cullyhanna issue it's over done and dusted so lets move on ,but the conlon issue is unresolved and cannot be glossed over. He would have been useful against newtown last sunday do you not agree?
I'd rather if Liam Campbell was available.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 28, 2007, 08:57:59 PM
thats not an answer to the question pints. but thankfully liam will return shortly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 28, 2007, 10:00:58 PM
Quotewell pints whilst i agree with you on the cullyhanna issue it's over done and dusted so lets move on ,but the conlon issue is unresolved and cannot be glossed over. He would have been useful against newtown last sunday do you not agree?
The conlon issue is over with, he's no longer our player.  Would he have been useful against Newtown? Probably.  Would I want him playing? No.  Give me the good young club men we'd playing or on the bench (or suspended) any day. 
No one has ever said that Conlon is not a quality player but as far as I'd be concerned it's his attitude that lets him down and it wouldn't be welcome it many teams or clubs. 

btw I think we could have put out an all star team and Ollie would still ensure we didn't get the points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 28, 2007, 10:14:40 PM
Quote[I think we could have put out an all star team and Ollie would still ensure we didn't get the points./quote]

Who is Ollie, Pints?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 28, 2007, 10:18:37 PM
feck it pints are u one of the managers or their maybe their pro . rem it takes two to tango boy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 28, 2007, 10:24:54 PM
Ollie hearty exile.

Charlie what do you want me to say?  Beg and cry for ciaran to come back? 
I'd love to know what story you have as you seem to believe he's in the right. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 28, 2007, 10:43:24 PM
as i said it takes two to tango. shop shut .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on June 29, 2007, 10:54:17 AM
Pints, I said I'm not going to get into a slanging match so this is my last post on this matter. Yesterday's post was going to be my last but then you started calling me a liar!!!!
How many times have I to say that I'm NOT a Cullyhanna man, I was there as a NEUTRAL!!!! I have read your posts on the matter and the majority of what you say on the matter has been correct, however, I feel you have over the top with this fight against "the evil empire of Cullyhanna". As stated on an earlier post, I agree fully with you on the re-appointment of Casey. There were incidents that I have pointed out that Silverbridge people were involved with that they can not be proud of, that's all I'm saying. Are you seriously saying that over the two games that every single Silverbridge man can say they did nothing that they were ashamed of?
And before you say it I know that there will be more than a few Cullyhanna people in the same boat.
I though I'd bring a neutral's point of view to the discussion and not be branded a liar!! I know what I saw!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 29, 2007, 12:35:29 PM
QuoteThere were incidents that I have pointed out that Silverbridge people were involved with that they can not be proud of, that's all I'm saying. Are you seriously saying that over the two games that every single Silverbridge man can say they did nothing that they were ashamed of?
I can't speak for the lads themselves. 
Did they behave as angels throughout the two games? of course not, no team does. But as far as I'm concerned they've nothing to be ashamed off and as I said in one of my earlier posts I would say it's was one of our proudest days.

I don't care if you're a cullyhanna man or not.  I give you the benefit of the doubt when you made claims about McKeever being stamped on but if you say that there were men in suits fighting on the field, you are a liar!!!
There were no men in suits fighting on the field, for God sake our players weren't even fighting! They were getting up and walking away! As soon as the row started the stewards left the gates and I watched two bridge men (Eamon McCann, who was part of the mangement and Pat Daly, a life long bridge man, both leaving their seats to shut and stand at the gates going on to the field!) 
The only person I remember being on the field that should have been in the stand (from our side anyway) was one of our subs young Brendan Byrne and he certainly done nothing to shame the club, in fact quite the oppostite!  The only one on the field with the calm head and sense to get our boys grouped together and sitting down.  Something men twice and three times his age didn't think of.

You'll not find anyone in the bridge ashamed of our boys that day. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on June 29, 2007, 01:52:08 PM
Pints, we'll leave it at that. As I say, I agree with most of your account. Just took issue with a few points and we'll agree to differ on those. Don't agree to being called a liar though! :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 29, 2007, 03:34:16 PM
Harps V Culloville is OFF 2nite...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 29, 2007, 04:11:59 PM
granemore v silverbridge off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 29, 2007, 04:39:43 PM
Jasus Pints chill out man it's a Friday, you'll be going soon to watch your beloved Bridge
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 29, 2007, 04:41:26 PM
are you sure charlie?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 29, 2007, 05:09:24 PM
certain pints.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 29, 2007, 08:16:30 PM
cheers charlie saved me an awful rush home. 
Called off due to a death in Granemore.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lawnseed 2 on June 29, 2007, 11:20:42 PM
just to let you know lads i was talking to a lad whos working on the athletic grounds and he told me its a f--king disaster apparently its supposed to be finished by feb 08 but he says it will be feb09. practically every job they do has to be redone because of vandalism and theft. eg ducting was laid for lighting with ropes to pull the wire through the next morning the ropes were gone the whole thing had to be dug up, sewer pipes filled with cement etc but the top of the list was when they sprayed some obsenity on the pitch with weedkiller which is only beginning to show up as the grass dies. the contractors cant leave any equipment unattended at all as it is being stolen even during the day. so what i hear you say! well the job is well over budget and behind schedual and guess who'll be asked to foot the bill (try saying "thats right" in the style of the unbelieveables) thats right THE CLUBS! you and me!. the begging bowl will be out in style shortly. why dont we accept defeat sell the kip and get a proper complex before this white elephant puts our lights out. ive heard a rumour that we have been offered over 5million stg from a large chain for the site this would go a long way towards buying and developing a two or three pitch complex with a gym etc and maybe even a carpark. emmmm.. carpark
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 29, 2007, 11:55:09 PM
lawnseed to do that would take drive and leadership from county board. not ours i don't think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 30, 2007, 12:07:41 AM
any results from tonights games?

totally agree with the redevelopment of the athletic grounds being an absolute joke, was at a meeting last year and was assured by members of the management committee of the county board that if they were to sell the athletic grounds to developers they would only receive £300,000 and that they would not be entitled to grant aid/funding for any new project!

what a big load of shite!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on June 30, 2007, 12:11:12 AM
Thats depressing stuff about the athletic grounds. Perhaps it should be renamed the Pathetic Grounds?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on June 30, 2007, 01:00:16 AM
Well we've a new Chairman and Board there, so I'd give them another few months yet to sort things out. Should I wear formal dress for this do in the Carrickdale tomorrow night?  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on June 30, 2007, 08:20:01 AM
The Athletic grounds is worth f**k all. Just look where it is. That's why there's stuff stolen and vandalism. All it could be used for is socail housing. There is no golden goose I'm afriad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on June 30, 2007, 10:25:05 AM
Quotejust to let you know lads i was talking to a lad whos working on the athletic grounds and he told me its a f--king disaster apparently its supposed to be finished by feb 08 but he says it will be feb09. practically every job they do has to be redone because of vandalism and theft.

I know the son of the groundsman.  He says that even if it ever does get finished the field will be unplayable due to the never ending task of lifting broken bottles.  It only takes for one player to get sliced open and the county board would be in the sh*t to their necks. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 30, 2007, 11:33:23 AM
Always thought they should have bought the College Fields. There's a massive area there where a fine stadium could be built. Easilly accessed from everywhere & plent of natural parking space!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 30, 2007, 11:44:58 AM
QuoteListen tac I realise that yous are having a love affair with the county board (and why not) but by your comments I can only assume you've never been on the receiving end of him.

Actually Pint I've more reason that most to complain about Mr Hearty's officiating on and off the pitch but I know the fella and he's not a bad lad. But here don't let it get in the way of your anti-Cullyhanna paranoia.

Mackers - you're fighting a losing battle, just accept that Cullyhanna are some sort of cross between Al Quaida, the Taliban and the Ku Klux Klan and you'll be ok with Pint here. Silverbridge NEVER do anything wrong - they are indeed the angels of Armagh football and all brawls they have ever been involved with were started by the other side. Punches you may ever have seen being thrown by Silverbridge men were in fact as a result of your brainwashing by the St Pats committee and their minions in the Armagh County Board.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 30, 2007, 11:56:11 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 30, 2007, 11:44:58 AM
QuoteListen tac I realise that yous are having a love affair with the county board (and why not) but by your comments I can only assume you've never been on the receiving end of him.

Actually Pint I've more reason that most to complain about Mr Hearty's officiating on and off the pitch but I know the fella and he's not a bad lad. But here don't let it get in the way of your anti-Cullyhanna paranoia.

Mackers - you're fighting a losing battle, just accept that Cullyhanna are some sort of cross between Al Quaida, the Taliban and the Ku Klux Klan and you'll be ok with Pint here. Silverbridge NEVER do anything wrong - they are indeed the angels of Armagh football and all brawls they have ever been involved with were started by the other side. Punches you may ever have seen being thrown by Silverbridge men were in fact as a result of your brainwashing by the St Pats committee and their minions in the Armagh County Board.
I don't ever remember saying any of that.   ::)
I note you choose to attack me rather than defend your club but I suppose you can't defend the indefensible. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 30, 2007, 04:58:10 PM
Cullaville beat Dromintee by about 10 points today. Dromintee absolutely terrible, as poor as they have been in a while. In saying that Cullaville did kick some good scores.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on June 30, 2007, 07:45:04 PM
an portmor beat clonmore 2-11 to 0-11 last night. i heard collegeland got beat by tullysaren. does anyone know if madden were playing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 01, 2007, 03:49:28 PM
was at harps clans game this morn.harps 1-10 clans 0-11.clans seemed have more possession but didnt make mostof it,joe quigoley got goal for harps about all he did.nippy swifts passing really impressed surely a better option at chf than kernan?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 01, 2007, 04:50:33 PM
Charlie you would probably be a better option than SK.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 01, 2007, 05:08:18 PM
ogs beat mullaghbawn 2.9 to 13 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on July 01, 2007, 05:14:50 PM
Congrats to Armagh ladies - beat Tyrone in the Ulster final at Clones - 3-14 to 2-09
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 01, 2007, 06:52:52 PM
was at the Harps V Clans game myself. Swift played rightly, must be said the first time I've seen him relaease the first time ball and it worked today. Clans had plenty of chances in the last 8-10 mins to win match. Paul ohagan missed easy 21yd free with a couple left to reduce the margin to 1, but he hit the upright, and as said earlier Oldham blasted wide from 6 yards to win the game for the blues in injury time.

Luckily for the Harps they had the right man on the ball with their one-on-one, as Joe Quigley calmly sent the ball to the bottom left hand corner of the net ;D ;D

IMO I thought the Harps defence were very poor today, but in the end it was all about winning the match. At this stage for the Harps Results are more important than performances.

Well done and another 2 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on July 01, 2007, 07:09:44 PM
Ballymacnab beat Annaghmore by a point today 1-11 to 0-13 in very controversial circumstances.  Will get a full match report up this evening.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on July 01, 2007, 08:01:09 PM
The harps are starting to climb out of trouble and that is great, Swift seems to be playing very well again and that is great news, the Harps need him even if the county don't!  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on July 01, 2007, 10:12:07 PM
Armagh ladies were class, well done on winning four ulsters in a row
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 01, 2007, 10:26:30 PM
Congrats to Dromintee Ladies also who won the Junior Championship against Keady, actually a good match. First good Ladies match I ever saw.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on July 01, 2007, 10:32:34 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 01, 2007, 10:26:30 PM
Congrats to Dromintee Ladies also who won the Junior Championship against Keady, actually a good match. First good Ladies match I ever saw.

Perv!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Long time dead on July 02, 2007, 07:54:34 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 01, 2007, 05:08:18 PM
ogs beat mullaghbawn 2.9 to 13 points

And there was a free for all at the end!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 02, 2007, 08:18:35 AM
Quote from: Long time dead on July 02, 2007, 07:54:34 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 01, 2007, 05:08:18 PM
ogs beat mullaghbawn 2.9 to 13 points

And there was a free for all at the end!

that is true.  happened after the final whistle. think the referee had words with one of the mullaghbawn players after it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 02, 2007, 08:44:52 AM
Tullysaran beat collegeland by 4 points in the perfect example of a game of two halves, scored 1 point in the first and concede 1 in the second....
Hows the wrist now el cuervo?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 02, 2007, 08:46:24 AM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 1 JULY 2007


Wednesday 27 June

ACL – Division IV
O'Hanlon's v Shane O'Neill's (Off)


Friday 29 June

ACL – Division II
Granemore v Silverbridge (Off)
St Peter's 1-8; Killeavey 2-16

ACL – Division III
Clonmore 1-8; An Port Mor 2-11
Collegeland 0-8; Tullysaran 2-6

ACL – Division IV
Forkhill 2-10; Eire Og 1-11
Mullaghbrack 1-7; Dorsey Emmett's 0-12


Saturday 30 June

ACL – Division I
Culloville 1-14; Dromintee 0-7
Crossmaglen 1-13; Whitecross 1-10


Sunday 1 July

ACL – Division I
Harps 1-10; Clan na Gael 0-11
Pearse Og 2-9; Mullaghbawn 0-13

ACL – Division II
Ballymacnab 1-11; Annaghmore 0-13
Carrickcruppen 0-9; St Patrick's 0-11
Clann Eireann 1-12; Wolfe Tones 1-8
St Michael's 1-14; Keady 0-10

ACL – Division III
Clady beat Ballyhegan
Clonmore 1-17; Middletown 0-8
St Paul's 1-8; Madden 0-10
Crossmaglen II v Sarsfields (Off)

ACL – Division IV
Corrinshego lost to Belleek
Grange v Derrynoose (Off)
Forkhill 1-12; Dorsey Emmett's 4-7



ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 10 9 0 1 18
Pearse Og 10 6 1 3 13
Mullaghbawn 11 5 2 4 12
Dromintee 10 5 1 4 11
Maghery 8 4 1 3 9
Whitecross 9 4 0 5 8
Culloville 9 3 1 5 7
Harps 10 3 1 6 7
Clan na Gael 8 2 2 4 6
Tir na nÓg 9 1 1 7 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
St Patrick's 9 9 0 0 18
Killeavey 11 9 0 2 18
Silverbridge 9 6 1 2 13
St Michael's 10 5 2 3 12
Carrickcruppen 7 5 0 2 10
Clann Eireann 7 4 0 3 8
Ballymacnab 11 4 0 7 8
Granemore 7 3 0 4 6
Keady 10 2 1 7 5
St Peter's 9 2 0 7 4
Annaghmore 10 2 0 8 4
Wolfe Tones 10 1 2 7 4

Division III
P W D L Pts
Madden 9 8 0 1 16
An Port Mor 10 8 0 2 16
Sarsfields 8 6 0 2 12
Collegeland 9 6 0 3 12
Lissummon 9 6 0 3 12
Tullysaran 11 4 2 5 10
Ballyhegan 9 4 0 5 8
St Paul's 9 3 1 5 7
Clonmore 11 3 0 8 6
Middletown 6 2 0 4 4
Clady 11 1 2 8 4
Crossmaglen II 8 1 1 6 3

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Belleek 9 7 0 2 14
Dorsey Emmett's 10 6 2 2 14
Grange 7 6 0 1 12
Eire Og 9 6 0 3 12
Shane O'Neill's 7 5 1 1 11
Derrynoose 8 5 0 3 10
Forkhill 10 5 0 5 10
Mullaghbrack 9 4 0 5 8
O'Hanlon's 9 2 1 6 5
Corrinshego 10 1 0 9 2
Phelim Brady's 10 0 0 10 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 02, 2007, 09:05:02 AM
where do i start about the Clans, thats actually the best we have played in a month or two but we just could not convert the chances. I'm sure Harps will admitt that they were lucky that the clans had left their shooting boots in Lurgan. With bumpy suspended yesterday the free taking was passed to his cousin Paul who missed a few easy chances, Oldham missed a sitter as stated by Fcuksake and Marty Lavery had 2 good goal chances.

Jow Q took his gaol chance well, he ran about 30 meters and struck it hard and low to the keepers right, and before you's all start it was nothing to do with the ref he was poor for both sides blowing up for little to no contact. Gaa will soon be a non contact sport lads, anyway fair play to the Harps it certainly makes our game with the Og's on Friday night in Davitt an intersting one, it def is a must win game for the Clans......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 02, 2007, 09:45:19 AM
Clans V Ogs ;D

might even head to that game myself if the Harps have no game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on July 02, 2007, 10:25:44 AM
Annaghmore will feel that they were unlucky to have lost by a point at fellow division 2 strugglers Ballymacnab this past weekend.  The game started brightly for the visitors with Gavin McGilly pointing within three minutes on his return from a hamstring injury.  Eoin McCormack then quickly tagged on a 14m free as Annaghmore got the better of the opening exchanges.  Playing with the wind, Ballymacnab then began to settle and scored the next two points to tie the game up after 10 minutes.  Seamie McConville put Annaghmore back in front before two quick fire Ballymacnab points helped them seize the initiative.  Darren Donnelly had Annaghmore back on level terms in the 18th minute before a ten minute lull in the action saw neither team able to score.  Seamie McConville seemed to give Annaghmore the half time lead with his 14m free right on the stroke of half time but this was not to be as Ballymacnab scored twice in injury time to lead 0-6 to 0-5 at the break.

The second half started brightly for Annaghmore as Eoin McCormack has the sides back on level terms within 20 seconds of the restart.  Further points from Gavin McGilly and Matthew McNiece saw Annaghmore open up a two point advantage for the first.  Ballymacnab did reduce the deficit to a point before Shane Smyth re-established the two point gap.  Despite Annaghmore's flurry of scores, Ballymacnab were winning the majority of the ball around the middle and but for the tenacity of the tackling from the Annaghmore full back line lead by Stevie McConville would have been well ahead.  This midfield superiority did start to tell however in the 10th minute of the second half as a clever attacking move saw Ballymacnab score the only goal of the match.  The home take quickly tagged on two points to open up the games first three point lead 1-9 to 0-9.  Martin Tennyson cut this gap to two points before Eoin McCormack's third score of the game cut the gap to the minimum.  Sensing the pressure Ballymacnab were able to respond with a score of their own before Shane Smyth was able to bring the game level going into injury time with two fine points.   Both sides had chances to win the game in injury time but it was the home side who displayed the greater composure in front of goal to record an important one point win on a score line of 1-11 to 0-13.  The last minute of the match was marred by what appeared to be a bad injury to one of the Ballymacnab defenders who divided bravely to prevent a score in a last second goal mouth scramble.  Na Pairsaigh Ennach Mor would like to wish him a speedy recovery from his injuries.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue is the colour on July 02, 2007, 11:19:47 AM
Culloville V Dromintee
Good performance by Culloville, close enough at half time Culloville up by 2 points i tink. Culloville took over in the 2nd half, and run up a good scoreline towards the end with Cathal O'Rourke getting a straight Red for an awful challenge with about 15min left. After that the game was over.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 02, 2007, 11:30:59 AM
Quote from: Blue is the colour on July 02, 2007, 11:19:47 AM
Culloville V Dromintee
Good performance by Culloville, close enough at half time Culloville up by 2 points i tink. Culloville took over in the 2nd half, and run up a good scoreline towards the end with Cathal O'Rourke getting a straight Red for an awful challenge with about 15min left. After that the game was over.

What did he do?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 02, 2007, 12:00:28 PM
Quote from: full back on July 02, 2007, 11:30:59 AM
Quote from: Blue is the colour on July 02, 2007, 11:19:47 AM
Culloville V Dromintee
Good performance by Culloville, close enough at half time Culloville up by 2 points i tink. Culloville took over in the 2nd half, and run up a good scoreline towards the end with Cathal O'Rourke getting a straight Red for an awful challenge with about 15min left. After that the game was over.

What did he do?

He probably ate the poor guy (literally) :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 02, 2007, 12:05:08 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on July 02, 2007, 09:45:19 AM
Clans V Ogs ;D

might even head to that game myself if the Harps have no game

i think the harps play cross  on thursday night in abbey park
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on July 02, 2007, 12:30:19 PM
correct...
wot was the story with the boxing yesterday after your match???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 02, 2007, 12:52:53 PM
It all started when one of the mullaghbawn forwards judased one our boys after the final whistle.  a free for all obviously followed.
at least there were no spectators involved. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 02, 2007, 01:01:34 PM
Illdecide, ate him? You are comedy gold.

Was a bad challenge alright, The Cullaville goal should not have stood as the Dromintee defender was clearly fouled but it would not have mattered the game was well over by then.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on July 02, 2007, 01:10:11 PM
rumour has it hank was the main man???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 02, 2007, 01:17:49 PM
Afraid your on the wrong lines there candy!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 02, 2007, 01:20:59 PM
Quote from: Candyman on July 02, 2007, 01:10:11 PM
rumour has it hank was the main man???

he was set upon by a number of mullaghbawn players,  the row had broken out with others before that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue is the colour on July 02, 2007, 01:42:27 PM
Quote from: full back on July 02, 2007, 11:30:59 AM
Quote from: Blue is the colour on July 02, 2007, 11:19:47 AM
Culloville V Dromintee
Good performance by Culloville, close enough at half time Culloville up by 2 points i tink. Culloville took over in the 2nd half, and run up a good scoreline towards the end with Cathal O'Rourke getting a straight Red for an awful challenge with about 15min left. After that the game was over.

What did he do?
He came in very late and hit our man with his shoulder straight in the chest, very big hit, our man had 2 b stretchered off. Id say the frustration just got the better of him as he had also missed a lot of frees earlier in the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 02, 2007, 01:45:23 PM
Quote from: Blue is the colour on July 02, 2007, 11:19:47 AM
Culloville V Dromintee
Good performance by Culloville, close enough at half time Culloville up by 2 points i tink. Culloville took over in the 2nd half, and run up a good scoreline towards the end with Cathal O'Rourke getting a straight Red for an awful challenge with about 15min left. After that the game was over.

he'll miss the championship then.  thats a big part of their game gone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 02, 2007, 06:43:22 PM
Doubt the championship will happen any time soon, depends on Armagh of course.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on July 02, 2007, 10:03:21 PM
Madden seniors beat for the first time in the league on friday by St Paul's.

Madden minors progress to the second round of the all county minor champsionship after beating St Enda's tonight.

Any result in the Mick Higgins Final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 02, 2007, 11:41:07 PM
Mick Higgins

Harps beat Ogs by a point ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on July 02, 2007, 11:54:03 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on July 02, 2007, 11:41:07 PM
Mick Higgins

Harps beat Ogs by a point ;D

:D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on July 03, 2007, 08:38:04 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E FRIDAY 6 JULY 2007


Monday 2 July

Minor Football Championship – 1st Round (7.30)
Madden v St Enda's (Henry McCloy)
(Extra time if required)


Wednesday 4 July

ACL – Division I (8.00)
Tir na nÓg v Maghery (Gerard Devlin)

ACL – Division III (8.00)
Tullysaran v St Paul's


Thursday 5 July

ACL – Division II (8.00)
Clann Eireann v Silverbridge (Mickey Leonard)
St Michael's v St Patrick's (Paul Boylan)


Friday 6 July

ACL – Division I (8.00)
Dromintee v Whitecross (Frank McDonald)
Harps v Crossmaglen (Barney Henry)
Maghery v Culloville (Seamus O'Neill)
Clan na Gael v Pearse Og (Sean McClatchey)
Mullaghbawn v Tir na nÓg (Vincent O'Neill)

ACL – Division II (8.00)
Carrickcruppen v Annaghmore (Seamus Falloon)
Granemore v Keady (Off)
Ballymacnab v Killeavey (Malachy McNicholl)
Wolfe Tones v St Peter's (Dessie McDonnell)

ACL – Division III (8.00)
Clonmore v Ballyhegan (Tony O'Hare)
Crossmaglen II v Lissummon (Jim Slevin)
Clady v Madden (Eamon Nugent)
Middletown v An Port Mor (Off)
Collegeland v Sarsfields (Henry McCloy)

ACL – Division IV (8.00)
Mullaghbrack v Derrynoose (Kevin Murtagh)
O'Hanlon's v Eire Og (Kevin McNeice)
Grange v Phelim Brady's (Jim Lynch)
Corrinshego v Shane O'Neill's (Patrick Duffy)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on July 03, 2007, 09:30:41 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on July 02, 2007, 11:54:03 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on July 02, 2007, 11:41:07 PM
Mick Higgins

Harps beat Ogs by a point ;D

:D ;D

Great result from a side that struggled to field earlier in the year.........credit to the management team of T.McCarron and J.McConville, the team played very well in patches, a lapse at the start of second half saw them concede 2 goals and 2 points but they hit backwith 5 points of their own to win by a single point. Harps full forward got MOM and fully deserved took great scores with both feet, Ogs no9 was best player for them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 03, 2007, 10:23:59 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 02, 2007, 01:45:23 PM
he'll miss the championship then.  thats a big part of their game gone.

Doubt if the championship will be any time soon but of course derry could change all that. Cathal wouldn't be a starter any more anyway, though dromintee would certainly miss his frees in a tight game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 03, 2007, 12:06:07 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on July 03, 2007, 10:23:59 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 02, 2007, 01:45:23 PM
he'll miss the championship then.  thats a big part of their game gone.

Doubt if the championship will be any time soon but of course derry could change all that. Cathal wouldn't be a starter any more anyway, though dromintee would certainly miss his frees in a tight game.


Wouldnt be a starter anymore?? :o

I know yous were missing a few against the Harps a couple of weeks ago, but if Cathal hadnt came of the bench to kick 7 points, Im sure the margin of 3 points would have been greater.

He never missed a place kick the whole 2nd half, Except for his mouth which usually gets him in trouble he would be a certain starter on most Div1 teams in Ulster never mind Armagh.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 03, 2007, 12:59:00 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on July 03, 2007, 12:06:07 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on July 03, 2007, 10:23:59 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 02, 2007, 01:45:23 PM
he'll miss the championship then.  thats a big part of their game gone.

Doubt if the championship will be any time soon but of course derry could change all that. Cathal wouldn't be a starter any more anyway, though dromintee would certainly miss his frees in a tight game.


Wouldnt be a starter anymore?? :o

I know yous were missing a few against the Harps a couple of weeks ago, but if Cathal hadnt came of the bench to kick 7 points, Im sure the margin of 3 points would have been greater.

He never missed a place kick the whole 2nd half, Except for his mouth which usually gets him in trouble he would be a certain starter on most Div1 teams in Ulster never mind Armagh.



he was definitely one of the 1s who stood out against us.  he's still got a great boot on him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 03, 2007, 01:07:52 PM
Aye, his nose and gut stands out as well.  :D :D (only joking) He def can still take the free kicks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on July 03, 2007, 03:24:41 PM
Any opinions on how many of JKs sons will be playing against Derry on Sunday heres my team

                                                                        1 Hearty
                                             
                                                2 Mallon            3.Donaghy                   4.McNulty   

                                                5. Kernan          6. McGeeney              7. McKeever


                                                                       8.Toner
                                                                       9. McGrane
                   
                                               10. O'Rourke      11. Marsden                 12. Toal
                                           
                                               13 McDonnell      14. Mackin                   15. McConville
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 03, 2007, 03:30:56 PM

Tha looks like a decent team mackers but in reality the same 15 will play on sunday as played against donegal.

muldoon could be a bit of a problem child for armagh this week. i don't see an obvious candidate to pick him up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on July 03, 2007, 03:49:57 PM
armagh will just have to stop decent ball goin into him, donaghy is six foot cant let him clean catch, i think mckeever might have to pick bradley up, and we need to find scoring half forwards
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 03, 2007, 04:42:19 PM
Muldoon is a pockle, he had one decent year and then hit the wall. Any high ball that goes into him should be 50 -50. Bradley is no were near match fit and with all that suspension shite hanging over him wll not want to know if kept to a minimum early on. Bradley is a good onethough and will warrant some attention. But lets be honest going on the performances of Derry this year in the championship Armagh should beat them comfortably. But we all know that they won't and they will struggle. Further Highlighting the fact that  Armagh won't win the all Ireland, although no teams are really standing out at the moment.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lisdoon1 on July 03, 2007, 05:08:46 PM
Top gun, Have you the slightest notion on football?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on July 03, 2007, 06:12:47 PM
lisdoon1, ull find i do, donagy is six foot and wont let muldoon catch clean ball, andy mallon is very quick and an excellant man marker but lacks a bit of upper body strenght,  mckeever marked Stephen O'Neill very well a few years ago in an all ireland semi, that makes me think he might get the task of marking bradley, although enda is capble aswel. bradley is a class act and last week will have brought him on a good bit, remember form is temporary, class is permanent. with clarke out injured someone has to help mcdonnell (who from a derry point of view would hve to be picked up by lockhart), armagh play well with and are suited to having a target man on the edge of the square, mackin is more mobile than loughran, and has plenty of experience playing there, veron would do a job but he is awesome at coming on to the ball,  the half forward line that started against donegal, wont get the scores we need, toal will score from distance and his workrate is very good, he is an option for freekicks from the right hand side. a
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 03, 2007, 06:52:33 PM
Quote from: topgun on July 03, 2007, 06:12:47 PM
lisdoon1, ull find i do, donagy is six foot and wont let muldoon catch clean ball, andy mallon is very quick and an excellant man marker but lacks a bit of upper body strenght,  mckeever marked Stephen O'Neill very well a few years ago in an all ireland semi, that makes me think he might get the task of marking bradley, although enda is capble aswel. bradley is a class act and last week will have brought him on a good bit, remember form is temporary, class is permanent. with clarke out injured someone has to help mcdonnell (who from a derry point of view would hve to be picked up by lockhart), armagh play well with and are suited to having a target man on the edge of the square, mackin is more mobile than loughran, and has plenty of experience playing there, veron would do a job but he is awesome at coming on to the ball,  the half forward line that started against donegal, wont get the scores we need, toal will score from distance and his workrate is very good, he is an option for freekicks from the right hand side. a

It was all going well til that
Title: Re: Armagh MFC
Post by: Armagh Exile on July 03, 2007, 08:32:59 PM
Anyone know the score of the Madden v St Enda's MFC game which took place last night at Madden?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 04, 2007, 08:40:00 AM
topgun . mackin will fumble ball after ball  .re donegal game last attack and he drops the f**king ball. enough said.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 04, 2007, 10:43:33 AM
i think big Joe will play the same team as b4.

Hearty :'(
McNulty
Donaghy
Mallon
A Kernan
McGeeney
C McKeever (Pints mate)
McGrane
Toner
P McKeever
S Kernan (another one of pints mates) :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
O Rourke  :'(
McDonnell
Mars bar
McConville
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on July 04, 2007, 11:24:00 AM
Our game with Cruppen is off this Friday because of a wedding (I think)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 04, 2007, 12:22:40 PM
Some poor hoor is getting hitched. Was there not a ruling made by the county board setting out the conditions with which games could be called off. I don't remember seeing a wedding as one of the valid reason. ??? 8) :o :( >:( ;D :D ;) :)
Title: Re: Armagh MFC
Post by: full back on July 04, 2007, 01:20:45 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on July 03, 2007, 08:32:59 PM
Anyone know the score of the Madden v St Enda's MFC game which took place last night at Madden?


Heard Madden won, didnt hear score
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on July 04, 2007, 04:21:49 PM
Tir Na Nog play maghery tonight in what could turn out to be a crucial match! I personally think that if we dont win tonight then we will get relagated as there is no play-off format this year and this has been our saviour in the last few years. We have a few players back from injury and suspension so hopefully we can put a couple of points on the board because we certainly need them! wont be easy though, maghery have a few good footballers and their forward line seem to be flying! but its a derby game and with us being at home, i think we'll win!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 04, 2007, 06:55:26 PM
Illdecide you obviously are a man who loves seeing scores and doesn't appreciate all aspects of the game, this is the only reason you put that unhappy smiley beside O Rourke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on July 04, 2007, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 04, 2007, 12:22:40 PM
Some poor hoor is getting hitched. Was there not a ruling made by the county board setting out the conditions with which games could be called off. I don't remember seeing a wedding as one of the valid reason. ??? 8) :o :( >:( ;D :D ;) :)
winsamsoon is giving off because a match is called off for a wedding.  Don't think you have any business crying about that mate. Why did clans not play cross last week?????????????????? ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on July 04, 2007, 08:15:54 PM
any thoughts on why jk has picked the same team again, do u have to be from cross to get a chance or a second chane or even a third chance
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on July 04, 2007, 10:54:15 PM
Quoteany thoughts on why jk has picked the same team again, do u have to be from cross to get a chance or a second chane or even a third chance

what makes you think that JK has a bias towards cross players?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 05, 2007, 01:35:33 AM
Well Armaghtrue the Clans didn't play cross because they didn't play cross it certainly wasn't because of a wedding so i am lost as to what you are getting at. Secondly i wasn't giving off, i was merly trying to give a bit of light hearted jip. Thirdly, I am a clans man and to date i haven't been able to find out the true story about the cross match ie, whether the points were forfeited or did both teams agree to cancel so i would like to know where you get your infomation? saying that you are the oracle and oh wise one of the board.( Again light hearted in case you take offence)  :D
Title: Re: South Armagh'B' Final Result
Post by: Armagh Exile on July 05, 2007, 08:24:14 AM
St Patrick's beat Silverbridge by 0-12 to 1-7 in the final of the South Armagh 'B' Championship at Crossmaglen last night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 05, 2007, 08:48:31 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 04, 2007, 06:55:26 PM
Illdecide you obviously are a man who loves seeing scores and doesn't appreciate all aspects of the game, this is the only reason you put that unhappy smiley beside O Rourke.

Corn you are only guessing, i put that crying face beside O Rourke because i don't rate him. Yes he is a work horse and gets in peoples faces but i just don't believe that he should be in Armagh's first 15, he's a good player and i certainly wouldn't turn him away from my club team nor would any other team but in my opinion he should not be in Armagh's 15. And again you are wrong that i just love seeing scores, i played in defence for years and there is nothing i love more than a crunching hit a block or an interception ;) ;)

Armaghtrue don't mean to butt in but again as a clans man we don't know what the hell happened last week, i have asked what why when where etc etc and i was told that the county board will decide the outcome of this unfortunate matter which i believe the 2pts will go to Cross. If this is the case i will be totally disgusted with our management (not county board), i would rather have played Cross and got beat by 15pts than call the match off and give them the pts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 05, 2007, 09:05:22 AM
any result on the Tir Na Nog and maghery game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 05, 2007, 12:45:33 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 05, 2007, 01:35:33 AM
Well Armaghtrue the Clans didn't play cross because they didn't play cross it certainly wasn't because of a wedding so i am lost as to what you are getting at. Secondly i wasn't giving off, i was merly trying to give a bit of light hearted jip. Thirdly, I am a clans man and to date i haven't been able to find out the true story about the cross match ie, whether the points were forfeited or did both teams agree to cancel so i would like to know where you get your infomation? saying that you are the oracle and oh wise one of the board.( Again light hearted in case you take offence)  :D

Clans couldnt field a team and cross agreed to postpone the match. Bad times for the clans... maybe bumpy could have a club of his own where he is chairman, secretary, manager... you get the picture
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 05, 2007, 01:13:50 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 05, 2007, 12:45:33 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 05, 2007, 01:35:33 AM
Well Armaghtrue the Clans didn't play cross because they didn't play cross it certainly wasn't because of a wedding so i am lost as to what you are getting at. Secondly i wasn't giving off, i was merly trying to give a bit of light hearted jip. Thirdly, I am a clans man and to date i haven't been able to find out the true story about the cross match ie, whether the points were forfeited or did both teams agree to cancel so i would like to know where you get your infomation? saying that you are the oracle and oh wise one of the board.( Again light hearted in case you take offence)  :D

Clans couldnt field a team and cross agreed to postpone the match. Bad times for the clans... maybe bumpy could have a club of his own where he is chairman, secretary, manager... you get the picture

Lads as a Clans man and Winsamsoon will confirm this we def could have fielded a team. It might not have been a our strongest team but we would have had about 18 players available for that game, we are as confused over this matter as you's guy's are. As i stated and Winsamsoon as well we don't know what way the points will go for that one but our secretary is certain that Cross will get the 2 pts.

As for Bumpy your not for wrong there, his da is the chairman and he is the manager so 2 out of 3 eint bad ;) :D. The general feeling among the players was that we would rather have been beaten heavily by Cross than not field.  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Long time dead on July 05, 2007, 01:23:47 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on July 04, 2007, 10:54:15 PM
Quoteany thoughts on why jk has picked the same team again, do u have to be from cross to get a chance or a second chane or even a third chance

what makes you think that JK has a bias towards cross players?

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue is the colour on July 05, 2007, 01:39:02 PM
Any word on maghery v porty?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 05, 2007, 01:51:08 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 05, 2007, 01:13:50 PM
As for Bumpy your not for wrong there, his da is the chairman and he is the manager so 2 out of 3 eint bad ;) :D. The general feeling among the players was that we would rather have been beaten heavily by Cross than not field.  :-[ :-[

is that not exactly what the problem is with the clans at the minute???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 05, 2007, 02:10:59 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 05, 2007, 01:51:08 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 05, 2007, 01:13:50 PM
As for Bumpy your not for wrong there, his da is the chairman and he is the manager so 2 out of 3 eint bad ;) :D. The general feeling among the players was that we would rather have been beaten heavily by Cross than not field.  :-[ :-[

is that not exactly what the problem is with the clans at the minute???

Well it certainly isn't helping things
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 05, 2007, 02:16:29 PM
Maghery won by a couple.

Ilddecide, fair enough. Who would you play in his place though?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 05, 2007, 02:24:12 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 05, 2007, 02:16:29 PM
Maghery won by a couple.

Was thinking Maghery won, because there wasnt 1 portydown poster on mouthing. If they had got a result there would have been an influx first thing this morning.

Blue is the colour, how is the lad that was injured against Dromintee?
Who got injured?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 05, 2007, 03:48:56 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 05, 2007, 02:16:29 PM
Maghery won by a couple.

Ilddecide, fair enough. Who would you play in his place though?

Well it's like this we are gonna hefta do somthing because he's retiring this year anyway. It will have to be a good'in to replace him though ("football ability" before any comments)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on July 05, 2007, 06:18:32 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 05, 2007, 01:35:33 AM
Well Armaghtrue the Clans didn't play cross because they didn't play cross it certainly wasn't because of a wedding so i am lost as to what you are getting at. Secondly i wasn't giving off, i was merly trying to give a bit of light hearted jip. Thirdly, I am a clans man and to date i haven't been able to find out the true story about the cross match ie, whether the points were forfeited or did both teams agree to cancel so i would like to know where you get your infomation? saying that you are the oracle and oh wise one of the board.( Again light hearted in case you take offence)  :D
well winsamsoon you were just pointing out that there had to be a VALID reason to call a match and was just wondering what your valid reason was that u didn't play cross ??? ??? ??? didn't take much to get ya goin  ;D ;D ;D obviously i touched a nerve there  :'(while there is obviously politics in the clans ranks, otherwise as a player you would know the answer after 10 days
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 05, 2007, 06:45:21 PM
If ou read it carefully armagh true i wasn't saying that it wasn'ta valid reason i was merly asking was that one of them. but in future i will put in a fe question marks for the bamsticks in the audience.
Title: Re: South Armagh'B' Final Result
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 05, 2007, 07:23:40 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on July 05, 2007, 08:24:14 AM
St Patrick's beat Silverbridge by 0-12 to 1-7 in the final of the South Armagh 'B' Championship at Crossmaglen last night.


Aye f**k it anyway, I couldnt go to it so I haven't a big pile to say.  One defeat in a year and a half isn't bad, just a pity it was in a championship final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on July 05, 2007, 08:40:09 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 05, 2007, 06:45:21 PM
If ou read it carefully armagh true i wasn't saying that it wasn'ta valid reason i was merly asking was that one of them. but in future i will put in a fe question marks for the bamsticks in the audience.
tut tut tut for a man that just wanted to give a bit of jip doesn't seem to beable to take a bit ;) sorry winsamsoon just thought it might have been a bit harder to get ya goin  :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 05, 2007, 10:25:29 PM
The bridge beat Clann Eireann by 3 points tonight.

Any report inthemaking, or six inch (you've been awful quiet lately)?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 05, 2007, 11:41:03 PM
heard newtown beat cullyhanna tonight by 3 points!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on July 05, 2007, 11:44:39 PM
the bridge were dominant in a very tough hard hitting match. in the first half we played some great football and were up by 4 at the break. however clann eireann came out strong in the second half and with the rain starting again left the ball slippery they were able to break through the bridge defence scoring a goal and pulling back level. the bridge eventually regained there composure in the last ten to score a few points and pull away again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 05, 2007, 11:52:38 PM
Quoteheard newtown beat cullyhanna tonight by 3 points!
Wide open then. 

How did the team line out inthemaking?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 06, 2007, 12:05:26 AM
wide open surely!

we should have beaten them last saturday night! kicked 7 wides in the first 15 minutes of the second half! then the ref gave them a couple of handy frees!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 06, 2007, 09:02:16 AM
QuoteAny report inthemaking, or six inch (you've been awful quiet lately)?


pints, seeing as you seem to think you know who six inch nail is you should know why he is quiet these days!  Unlike the rest of us saddos he takes a holiday now and then ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: I SHOT JR on July 06, 2007, 10:20:39 AM
Any truth in the rumour that a certain Cullyhanna county player was on the line at the Cullyhanna/Bridge B final shouting obscenities?  I wasn't at it and I stand corrected if i'm wrong.  Just a rumour I heard last night, not from a Bridge source I hasten to add.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 06, 2007, 10:28:49 AM
Quote from: I SHOT JR on July 06, 2007, 10:20:39 AM
Any truth in the rumour that a certain Cullyhanna county player was on the line at the Cullyhanna/Bridge B final shouting obscenities?  I wasn't at it and I stand corrected if i'm wrong.  Just a rumour I heard last night, not from a Bridge source I hasten to add.

Somebody call the obscenities police
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 06, 2007, 10:36:23 AM
jaysus uladh your in great form this morning whatever is wrong with ya?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on July 06, 2007, 10:38:21 AM
Quote from: full back on July 05, 2007, 02:24:12 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 05, 2007, 02:16:29 PM
Maghery won by a couple.

Was thinking Maghery won, because there wasnt 1 portydown poster on mouthing. If they had got a result there would have been an influx first thing this morning.

Blue is the colour, how is the lad that was injured against Dromintee?
Who got injured?



Colm Watters got injured, haven't a clue how he is
Title: Abu
Post by: Uladh on July 06, 2007, 10:54:45 AM

Complaining about a county player going to vociferously support is club's b team on his evening off is not my idea of a reasonable complaint
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: I SHOT JR on July 06, 2007, 11:05:20 AM
From what I hear, he let himself down badly.  He was hardly supportive, apparently he was encouaging players to break legs, jaws etc.  But as I said, it could all be rumours.  Forget it.  It hardly matters now anyway!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 06, 2007, 11:06:48 AM
Quote from: I SHOT JR on July 06, 2007, 11:05:20 AM
From what I hear, he let himself down badly.  He was hardly supportive, apparently he was encouaging players to break legs, jaws etc.  But as I said, it could all be rumours.  Forget it.  It hardly matters now anyway!

???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: I SHOT JR on July 06, 2007, 11:11:03 AM
I wasn't meaning to start a debate on what is right or wrong, I was just wanting clarification on what I heard.  I hope he wasn't doing it but as I said, forget it; sure we'll all be hoping he plays his part for a win on sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 06, 2007, 12:02:04 PM
What about a "Everybody hates Cullyhanna" thread ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 06, 2007, 12:05:06 PM
I am just glad Armaghtrue is sorry he has made my day  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 06, 2007, 12:07:59 PM
Oh and check out this photo of tevez on this link below, this also entertains me.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/default.stm
Title: Re: Armagh MFC
Post by: armagh leg-end on July 06, 2007, 01:54:02 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on July 03, 2007, 08:32:59 PM
Anyone know the score of the Madden v St Enda's MFC game which took place last night at Madden?


i think the score was 2-14 to 1-3.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 06, 2007, 03:28:41 PM
Clans v Og's match has just been called off, "Waterlogged Pitch" :'( :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tevez on July 06, 2007, 03:43:50 PM
In responce to these comments about B final. I was at the game, and this certain county man was only giving encouragement to a very good cullyhana side. The game was a clean game for the most part and if anyone was dirty it would definately have been the former county man from the bridge who recieved a yellow card and should have got sent off! Prob would have only it would have done his tv image harm! He was very poor on top of that!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on July 06, 2007, 04:48:42 PM
Harps V Cross is also off due to pitch being waterlogged...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on July 06, 2007, 04:49:27 PM
Quote from: tevez on July 06, 2007, 03:43:50 PM
In responce to these comments about B final. I was at the game, and this certain county man was only giving encouragement to a very good cullyhana side. The game was a clean game for the most part and if anyone was dirty it would definately have been the former county man from the bridge who recieved a yellow card and should have got sent off! Prob would have only it would have done his tv image harm! He was very poor on top of that!

Tevez your first post has shown you up to be a gobsite of mammoth proportions.  The former county man as you described him (Jarlath Burns), received 2 knees in the back (otherwise know as a tackle in Cullyhanna).  His crime was to get up from the "tackle" and give out to the lad who carried out the offence.  Its clear that Martin Trainor (the linesman) and also Tony Watters (the ref) are afraid of Cullyhanna and aren't going to step on their toes, so a yellow card to the victim was the only action possibly from 2 yellow officials!

I look forward to more gems from you Tevez as you clearly seem to know your football, stones!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on July 06, 2007, 05:04:26 PM
Quote from: Six Inch Nail on July 06, 2007, 04:49:27 PM
Quote from: tevez on July 06, 2007, 03:43:50 PM
In responce to these comments about B final. I was at the game, and this certain county man was only giving encouragement to a very good cullyhana side. The game was a clean game for the most part and if anyone was dirty it would definately have been the former county man from the bridge who recieved a yellow card and should have got sent off! Prob would have only it would have done his tv image harm! He was very poor on top of that!

Tevez your first post has shown you up to be a gobsite of mammoth proportions.  The former county man as you described him (Jarlath Burns), received 2 knees in the back (otherwise know as a tackle in Cullyhanna).  His crime was to get up from the "tackle" and give out to the lad who carried out the offence.  Its clear that Martin Trainor (the linesman) and also Tony Watters (the ref) are afraid of Cullyhanna and aren't going to step on their toes, so a yellow card to the victim was the only action possibly from 2 yellow officials!

I look forward to more gems from you Tevez as you clearly seem to know your football, stones!

Abusing individuals, you are a real hard man.

Afraid of Cullyhanna ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on July 06, 2007, 05:33:15 PM
Quote from: I SHOT JR on July 06, 2007, 10:20:39 AM
Any truth in the rumour that a certain Cullyhanna county player was on the line at the Cullyhanna/Bridge B final shouting obscenities?  I wasn't at it and I stand corrected if i'm wrong.  Just a rumour I heard last night, not from a Bridge source I hasten to add.

Hi, again was at this match,clean enough match bridge played shit.  for once this certain county player was not shouting any abuse, he was in the stand at the game and not on the sideline, although i cant speak for b4 or after the game.
the other ex county player as tevez quotes can you explain as to what offence or bad tackle did he deserve to be sent off, Dont think he deserved a yellow never mind the red,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tevez on July 06, 2007, 05:51:55 PM
At the end of the day, it doesn't matter if he should have been sent of. Cullyhanna were the better team, they won the midfield battle easily and had good men inside. The main reason I commented on this was that the county player from Cullyhanna never said anything, so stop making up this crap!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 06, 2007, 06:04:02 PM
great argument there tev. 'he should have got red card but i don't know why'.
bandit if you have nothing sensible to add just don't bother.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 06, 2007, 06:18:54 PM
oh and bandit, i've just read your post on the armagh v derry thread. i think you're talking about mark campbell, not barry.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on July 06, 2007, 07:06:40 PM
can anyone tell me if the all county leagues are going ahead at u16 and b level
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tevez on July 06, 2007, 07:15:07 PM
When he got up from the tacke he hit the boy with his head to the body. You can't do that wee thing called (rules) He was rubish anyway. He caught only one ball all game. He was absolutely roastedl, by a young lad. U stick to the pints!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 06, 2007, 08:37:57 PM
QuoteWhen he got up from the tacke he hit the boy with his head to the body. You can't do that wee thing called (rules) He was rubish anyway. He caught only one ball all game. He was absolutely roastedl, by a young lad. U stick to the pints!
:D You're not serious? Ban him for life!  I didn't know yous were so soft in Cullyhanna.  What do you think the fella that came down on him with his knees should have got?
You're club wins the south armagh b championship and all you can talk about is Jarlath Burns  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tevez on July 06, 2007, 10:24:18 PM
He didn't even shake the man's hand who roasted him. That's sporting. Doen't matter anyway. Cullyhanna won. They are on a roll. Every underage team is in a final. U 12 will win no bother super team, u14 lost to Shane O'Neills, u16 will win everything, and minors have very good chance in championship. Seniors top of legue and in semi of champ and We are B Champs. What exactly have the bridge won!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on July 06, 2007, 10:48:29 PM
Heard the Clans v Pease Og and Harps v Cross games were called off due to waterlogged pitches
Mullabawn beat Tir na nog and Dromintee defeated Whitecross.  Wonder was Cathal O'Rourke playing or is he under suspension?
Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 06, 2007, 11:14:02 PM
Quote from: tevez on July 06, 2007, 10:24:18 PM
He didn't even shake the man's hand who roasted him. That's sporting. Doen't matter anyway. Cullyhanna won. They are on a roll. Every underage team is in a final. U 12 will win no bother super team, u14 lost to Shane O'Neills, u16 will win everything, and minors have very good chance in championship. Seniors top of legue and in semi of champ and We are B Champs. What exactly have the bridge won!
aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh    :D   :D    :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 06, 2007, 11:28:42 PM
You crying in pain there Pints?!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 06, 2007, 11:34:12 PM
Take that clown home tacadoir will you. 

And I'm just thinking tev...
QuoteHe didn't even shake the man's hand who roasted him. That's sporting. Doen't matter anyway. Cullyhanna won. They are on a roll. Every underage team is in a final. U 12 will win no bother super team, u14 lost to Shane O'Neills, u16 will win everything, and minors have very good chance in championship. Seniors top of legue and in semi of champ and We are B Champs. What exactly have the bridge won!
Yous have only won the south armagh B championship...talk about getting carried away...
Have you any report on the Newtown game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 06, 2007, 11:46:16 PM
No report. Just got a text to say that we lost, don't be home meself during the week. But sure anyway, even if the wheels were to fall off the cart at this stage we've still made great progress compared to last year. I'd still be fairly hopeful there'll be soemthing to celebrate by the end of the year.

By the way, from what I've heard Tevez is spot on with the optimism for the underage side. Great crop this year it seems although i have to admit that I dont see too much underage football meself being away during the week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on July 07, 2007, 11:47:35 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 06, 2007, 06:04:02 PM
great argument there tev. 'he should have got red card but i don't know why'.
bandit if you have nothing sensible to add just don't bother.

I just took issue with that sort of bullshit. I know one of the individuals very well, his son is a lurker here. It was a wee bit personal IMO

BTW It was Mark Campbell! (Barry was a half forward with youse?)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 07, 2007, 12:09:53 PM
QuoteIts clear that Martin Trainor (the linesman) and also Tony Watters (the ref) are afraid of Cullyhanna and aren't going to step on their toes, so a yellow card to the victim was the only action possibly from 2 yellow officials!

You're easily offended Bandit!  No comments on officials allowed? 

And yes, Barry was the half forward/midfielder/sometimes full forward, plays with the B team now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on July 07, 2007, 03:32:09 PM
The thoughts of being afraid of Cullyhanna :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 07, 2007, 03:45:24 PM
Maybe just a cheat then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on July 07, 2007, 03:59:54 PM
So they are either afraid of Cullyhanna (six inch nail) or Cheats (POG)?

Its no wonder people are reluctant to take up refereeing with people spouting rubbish like that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 07, 2007, 05:03:04 PM
Quote from: thebandit on July 07, 2007, 03:59:54 PM
So they are either afraid of Cullyhanna (six inch nail) or Cheats (POG)?

Its no wonder people are reluctant to take up refereeing with people spouting rubbish like that
::)  It's a wonder fellas are put in the time and effort they do, giving up weekends etc when we've such a pack of incompetent arseholes going around acting like referees.
Why do you think only Jarlath, the victim, was booked?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on July 07, 2007, 05:42:22 PM
Pints, having watched the whole bridge and cullyhanna saga develop here I broadly would have taken your version as being fairly close to what happened.

However, referring to an man who is only giving up his time (the same as Jarlath does for the bridge...only he doesn't make as much money out of GAA related activities) as a cheat and an incompetent arsehole while hiding behind the anonymity offered by the internet really is classy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 07, 2007, 07:24:57 PM
Listen bandit this has gotten even sillier. 
I've asked you why you think Jarlath was the only one booked, because the officials are afraid of Cullyhanna, because they are cheats or because they are incompetent?  Take your pick. 
My point about incompetent arseholes was a general statement about referees, they men we're not allowed to criticise yet we don't give a second thought to criticisng players, who put in far more effort and time, why is that?  It's something I don't understand.  And we all do it behind the anonymity of our usernames. 

That's a sly dig at Jarlath about making money too (and behind the anonymity of the internet, tut tut) maybe you'd rather he didn't take anything these "gaa related activities?" or maybe you think because he does he has no right to complain about getting a knee in his back?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tevez on July 07, 2007, 07:59:34 PM
How did Jarlaith play anyway in the final Pints? How many catches did he make. Who won the midfield battle? forget this other stuff these are the main points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 07, 2007, 08:05:10 PM
What sort of insecurity exists in Cullyhanna that they win a championship final and all that's talked is how many times Jarlath Burns caught a ball?   ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 07, 2007, 10:05:04 PM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS & TABLES FOR W/E SATURDAY 7 JULY 2007


Monday 2 July

Minor Football Championship – 1st Round
Madden 2-14; St Enda's 1-3


Wednesday 4 July

ACL – Division I
Tir na nÓg 0-8; Maghery 1-10

ACL – Division III
Tullysaran v St Paul's (Off)

ACL – Division IV
O'Hanlon's 1-7; Eire Og 2-14
Grange 0-21; Phelim Brady's 0-3


Thursday 5 July

ACL – Division II
Clann Eireann 1-7; Silverbridge 0-13
St Michael's 2-9; St Patrick's 0-12
Wolfe Tones v St Peter's (Off)

ACL – Division III
Crossmaglen II v Lissummon (Abandoned)


Friday 6 July

ACL – Division I
Dromintee 0-15; Whitecross 0-9
Harps v Crossmaglen (Off)
Maghery 1-13; Culloville 1-7
Clan na Gael v Pearse Og (Off)
Mullaghbawn 1-8; Tir na nÓg 0-7

ACL – Division II
Carrickcruppen v Annaghmore (Off)
Granemore v Keady (Off)
Ballymacnab 3-4; Killeavey 0-11;    :o

ACL – Division III
Clonmore 3-7; Ballyhegan 2-8
Clady v Madden (Off)
Middletown v An Port Mor (Off)
Collegeland 0-7; Sarsfields 0-9

ACL – Division IV
Mullaghbrack v Derrynoose (Off)
Corrinshego v Shane O'Neill's (Off)



ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 10 9 0 1 18
Mullaghbawn 12 6 2 4 14
Maghery 10 6 1 3 13
Pearse Og 10 6 1 3 13
Dromintee 11 6 1 4 13
Whitecross 10 4 0 6 8
Culloville 10 3 1 6 7
Harps 10 3 1 6 7
Clan na Gael 8 2 2 4 6
Tir na nÓg 11 1 1 9 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
St Patrick's 10 9 0 1 18
Killeavey 12 9 0 3 18
Silverbridge 10 7 1 2 15
St Michael's 11 6 2 3 14
Carrickcruppen 7 5 0 2 10
Ballymacnab 12 5 0 7 10
Clann Eireann 8 4 0 4 8
Granemore 7 3 0 4 6
Keady 10 2 1 7 5
St Peter's 9 2 0 7 4
Annaghmore 10 2 0 8 4
Wolfe Tones 10 1 2 7 4

Division III
P W D L Pts
Madden 9 8 0 1 16
An Port Mor 10 8 0 2 16
Sarsfields 10 8 0 2 16
Lissummon 9 6 0 3 12
Collegeland 10 6 0 4 12
Tullysaran 11 4 2 5 10
Ballyhegan 10 4 0 6 8
Clonmore 12 4 0 8 8
St Paul's 9 3 1 5 7
Middletown 6 2 0 4 4
Clady 11 1 2 8 4
Crossmaglen II 9 1 1 7 3

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Grange 9 7 1 1 15
Belleek 9 7 0 2 14
Dorsey Emmett's 10 6 2 2 14
Eire Og 10 7 0 3 14
Shane O'Neill's 8 5 2 1 12
Derrynoose 9 5 1 3 11
Forkhill 10 5 0 5 10
Mullaghbrack 9 4 0 5 8
O'Hanlon's 11 2 2 7 6
Corrinshego 10 1 0 9 2
Phelim Brady's 11 0 0 11 0



Diseal, what's the story are yous not playing any more games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on July 07, 2007, 10:13:56 PM
Pints,
I have noticed that you have missed seeing a number of Silverbridge games.  I have a suspicion that you are a referee and that is why you cannot get to your own club's games.
All you say about referees should be taken with a pinch of salt.
Come on Pints, own up - you are R.Q. in disguise.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 07, 2007, 10:36:46 PM
 :D  Nah I'd be far to shy and timid to be a ref. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 07, 2007, 10:39:51 PM

I doubt if Quigley could type.




or read.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on July 08, 2007, 03:15:29 PM
does no-one know what is happening with the u16 and b all county leagues.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 08, 2007, 11:59:56 PM
pints - no we arent allowed to play anymore games, well it seems that way!

five games behind most teams and with armagh out of the championship it will be 7 before long as the championship game is fixed for 20th july the same weekend that we had fixtures against annaghmore and killeavey!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 09, 2007, 09:45:28 AM

Ballyhegan should escape consecutive relegations now with Armagh out...there's always a silver lining!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 09, 2007, 01:33:33 PM
Full steam ahead now for the Armagh championsips (not for us :'() and i suppose the league fixtures will flow as well.

Jasus, Pints if you are Ronan Quigley then you will know me as i was talking to you b4 our game (identity gone now) God help Cullyhanna if Pints is refeering any of their matches :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 09, 2007, 01:41:19 PM
QuoteJasus, Pints if you are Ronan Quigley then you will know me as i was talking to you b4 our game (identity gone now) God help Cullyhanna if Pints is refeering any of their matches

:-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 09, 2007, 01:48:00 PM
Pints isn't Ronan Quigley, Quigley may be a bollix but he's not that big of a bollix :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 09, 2007, 02:34:01 PM
Cross v Dromintee down for the 21st I think in Silverbridge? Another Cross title expected or can anyone stop them this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on July 09, 2007, 02:49:30 PM
Pints isn't a referee - he has no respect for them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seeheartalk on July 09, 2007, 02:50:05 PM
What do you mean got help Cullyhanna if RQ is refereeing. Wasn't he the man that did the line and in cahoots with the ref kept McKeever from getting a straight red for head-butting the Cross II player. Fair enough county men are protected and as a county we benift from it. Though to suggest RQ will not do Cullyhanna any favours, ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 09, 2007, 02:53:16 PM
QuoteFair enough county men are protected and as a county we benift from it.
That's bull, how is it fair enough the county men can headbutt and get away with it?

bandit
QuotePints isn't a referee - he has no respect for them.
I'd have respect for a decent, fair ref.
You never answered me either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on July 09, 2007, 03:00:02 PM
About what?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 09, 2007, 03:15:30 PM
I was talking about this...
QuoteListen bandit this has gotten even sillier.
I've asked you why you think Jarlath was the only one booked, because the officials are afraid of Cullyhanna, because they are cheats or because they are incompetent?  Take your pick.
My point about incompetent arseholes was a general statement about referees, they men we're not allowed to criticise yet we don't give a second thought to criticisng players, who put in far more effort and time, why is that?  It's something I don't understand.  And we all do it behind the anonymity of our usernames.

That's a sly dig at Jarlath about making money too (and behind the anonymity of the internet, tut tut) maybe you'd rather he didn't take anything these "gaa related activities?" or maybe you think because he does he has no right to complain about getting a knee in his back?

But on second thoughts...I can't be bothered.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 09, 2007, 04:57:04 PM
Is Pints getting Ratty :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 09, 2007, 05:02:05 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 09, 2007, 04:57:04 PM
Is Pints getting Ratty :D :D
I am actually  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 10, 2007, 09:22:04 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 09, 2007, 05:02:05 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 09, 2007, 04:57:04 PM
Is Pints getting Ratty :D :D
I am actually  >:(

chill out man, i see one of your mates in the irish news this morning "Liam Murphy" U14 Manager he sells or looks after cars or somthing along them lines. Check out the Business section
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 10, 2007, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 10, 2007, 09:22:04 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 09, 2007, 05:02:05 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 09, 2007, 04:57:04 PM
Is Pints getting Ratty :D :D
I am actually  >:(

chill out man, i see one of your mates in the irish news this morning "Liam Murphy" U14 Manager he sells or looks after cars or somthing along them lines. Check out the Business section

What's in it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on July 10, 2007, 10:32:35 AM
Sorry pints, missed the original post

QuoteListen bandit this has gotten even sillier.
I've asked you why you think Jarlath was the only one booked, because the officials are afraid of Cullyhanna, because they are cheats or because they are incompetent?  Take your pick.

Maybe because he deserved to be? But I wasn't at the game so I dont know.
The only thing I took issue with was what you said about the officials (one of whom I know very well).

QuoteMy point about incompetent arseholes was a general statement about referees, they men we're not allowed to criticise yet we don't give a second thought to criticisng players, who put in far more effort and time, why is that?  It's something I don't understand.  And we all do it behind the anonymity of our usernames.

I'm not a fan of some of the criticism of players here - particularly the treatment Stephen Kernan has received.

QuoteThat's a sly dig at Jarlath about making money too (and behind the anonymity of the internet, tut tut) maybe you'd rather he didn't take anything these "gaa related activities?" or maybe you think because he does he has no right to complain about getting a knee in his back?


I have no problem with the big man raking a few quid, its not for direct gaa activity so no problem there - I was simply putting forward that he has been better rewarded for his undoubted commitment to the GAA than most.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 10, 2007, 10:34:52 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 10, 2007, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 10, 2007, 09:22:04 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 09, 2007, 05:02:05 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 09, 2007, 04:57:04 PM
Is Pints getting Ratty :D :D
I am actually  >:(

chill out man, i see one of your mates in the irish news this morning "Liam Murphy" U14 Manager he sells or looks after cars or somthing along them lines. Check out the Business section

What's in it?

Ach, its just a profile of Liam Murphy in the business section of the Irish News about how well he has done for himself and he mentions about helping out with the Bridge's U14 team. and he goes on to say he would love to swap places with Big JK on All Ireland day managing Armagh.

And he rounds it all off with an attack on everyone from Cullyhanna (only joking, couldn't resist that one :D)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 10, 2007, 10:36:42 AM
when do the next club games take place
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 10, 2007, 10:43:24 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 10, 2007, 10:34:52 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 10, 2007, 10:25:24 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 10, 2007, 09:22:04 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 09, 2007, 05:02:05 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 09, 2007, 04:57:04 PM
Is Pints getting Ratty :D :D
I am actually  >:(

chill out man, i see one of your mates in the irish news this morning "Liam Murphy" U14 Manager he sells or looks after cars or somthing along them lines. Check out the Business section

What's in it?

Ach, its just a profile of Liam Murphy in the business section of the Irish News about how well he has done for himself and he mentions about helping out with the Bridge's U14 team. and he goes on to say he would love to swap places with Big JK on All Ireland day managing Armagh.

And he rounds it all off with an attack on everyone from Cullyhanna (only joking, couldn't resist that one :D)
:D

good on him, he's sound lad and does a lot of work for the kids, might be worth getting dressed and going to the shop, and on my day off too!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 10, 2007, 12:56:21 PM
Are the championship games to go ahead as scheduled now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 10, 2007, 01:04:51 PM

when were they scheduled?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 10, 2007, 01:09:40 PM
They were down for the weekend of 20th - 22nd july.  but they've been put back a few weeks now.  no official date :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 10, 2007, 01:21:10 PM
Why have they been put back now?
County Board are a f**king joke. Postpone games if Armagh progress, postpone games if Armagh dont progress-WTF do they want?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 10, 2007, 01:45:21 PM
I dunno what the reason was.  we were told ours will not be for another few weeks now.   I definietly thought the county board would have liked to get it sorted instead of dragging the thing out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on July 10, 2007, 04:28:13 PM
Allowing time for the county players to integrate back into the clubs was 1 reason I heard today. Such shite.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 10, 2007, 04:30:15 PM
Sure whats the panic to play the championship now?midlde of august would be plenty of time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on July 10, 2007, 05:53:21 PM
QuoteAllowing time for the county players to integrate back into the clubs was 1 reason I heard today. Such shite.

Why? As Uladh says there should be no massive panic to play the championship now. The county players have given great service in long hard seasons over the years, in this case giving them a couple of weeks off seems perfectly appropriate. Other players won't really have been expecting to play in July as the county qualifier games were so close together, unless they expected Derry to beat Armagh, in which case they should be celebrating skinning the bookies. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 11, 2007, 12:26:33 PM
Who would be favourites to get relegated this year from the first Division, Porty look doomed and the second spot should go to ...................
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 11, 2007, 12:27:30 PM
Quote from: Uladh on July 10, 2007, 04:30:15 PM
Sure whats the panic to play the championship now?midlde of august would be plenty of time


that would gave Cathal time to serve his suspension ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2007, 12:30:06 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 11, 2007, 12:26:33 PM
Who would be favourites to get relegated this year from the first Division, Porty look doomed and the second spot should go to ...................
culloville
Though I'd love to see clanns go down  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on July 11, 2007, 12:33:44 PM
Armagh's exit doesn't help Culloville's case, as they have no county players but their opponents will now have their county players back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 11, 2007, 12:37:14 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 11, 2007, 12:26:33 PM
Who would be favourites to get relegated this year from the first Division, Porty look doomed and the second spot should go to ...................

now that the county are out of the race for sam, Harps and Clans will have their county men back, so i would expect both to climb the table, with Cullaville & whitecross maybe fighting it out.

I think 15 pts would be sufficient to remain in div 1 next year.

Harps have only 8 games left. 5 at home 3 away

home V cross, cullaville, maghery, whitecross & portydown
away V ogs, dromintee & cullaville

to be honest I dont expect to get much from the away games , but we could win 4 of our 5 home games (cross excluded) i think that should keep us up. (I hope) ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 11, 2007, 12:51:29 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on July 11, 2007, 12:27:30 PM
that would gave Cathal time to serve his suspension ;)

As was pointed out, O'Rourke doesn't start for the droms any more anyway so i doubt if that'll have a major impact on things.

The club championship doesn't have much appeal this year. maybe its the inevitability of te result. personally, i'm more excited about the prospect of the closing stages o the derry and tyrone championships.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 11, 2007, 01:09:15 PM
QuoteThe club championship doesn't have much appeal this year. maybe its the inevitability of te result. personally, i'm more excited about the prospect of the closing stages o the derry and tyrone championships.

Maybe this is a year that the breakthrough will happen.  I haven't seen any of the teams this year but surely there has to be someone out there who can seriously challenge Cross. 

Obviously Og's beat them in the League and would fancy themselves in the championship if the met Cross.  Have Dromintee gone back that much?

Any possible dark horses, or is it simply going to be another run in for the boys?

In regards to the championship being delayed for a few weeks, this is the first year in a long time since Armagh were out this early.  The reality is that the Ulster Club does not start till October and there are only 3 rounds of senior games to complete in a period of about 12 weeks so there is no point starting it till the county players have readjusted to the club team, and maybe make them better equipped to challenge Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 11, 2007, 01:12:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2007, 12:30:06 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 11, 2007, 12:26:33 PM
Who would be favourites to get relegated this year from the first Division, Porty look doomed and the second spot should go to ...................
culloville
Though I'd love to see clanns go down  :P

Now now Pints, you and for some reason the rest of the county would love that. Again your prob using the every one hates Bumpy thing when saying that. We sent you's down a few years ago and then you got your revenge 2 years later, so evens stevens.

Clans will have Diarmaid back and the rest of the suspended crewe so hopefully we will climb a few places
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2007, 01:27:44 PM
QuoteNow now Pints, you and for some reason the rest of the county would love that. Again your prob using the every one hates Bumpy thing when saying that. We sent you's down a few years ago and then you got your revenge 2 years later, so evens stevens.
Yeah revenge is sweet.
I was just winding you up, I don't really dont care who goes down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on July 11, 2007, 01:28:47 PM
any body hear any rumors that big joe and ciaran mckeever were fighting on the bus home after the match on sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2007, 01:38:23 PM
Quote from: topgun on July 11, 2007, 01:28:47 PM
any body hear any rumors that big joe and ciaran mckeever were fighting on the bus home after the match on sunday

See I'd be for big Joe in that one, and to think I'm being accused of being anti Kernan  ;D


We hear these types of rumours every year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 11, 2007, 01:46:51 PM
f**k, Pog jumping on for a Kernan, that would be a sight!  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 11, 2007, 02:08:31 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 11, 2007, 01:46:51 PM
f**k, Pog jumping on for a Kernan, that would be a sight!  :P

Aye, but it was against a Cullyhanna man. Pints favourite son ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 11, 2007, 02:12:19 PM
portydown how could they go down?are they not the best team in the north?must be just a championship team!clans may have their county men back but sure all the referees hate them they cant be expected to beat the team and the ref seriously? :Dwouldn't underestimate cullaville great win for them again dromintee few weeks ago.cant se cross being beat to be honest,ogs possibly if clarke back firing on all cylinders the best chance has passed dromintee and despite their potential harps lack big game bottle!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 11, 2007, 04:45:38 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 11, 2007, 02:12:19 PM
portydown how could they go down?are they not the best team in the north?must be just a championship team!clans may have their county men back but sure all the referees hate them they cant be expected to beat the team and the ref seriously? :Dwouldn't underestimate cullaville great win for them again dromintee few weeks ago.cant se cross being beat to be honest,ogs possibly if clarke back firing on all cylinders the best chance has passed dromintee and despite their potential harps lack big game bottle!

Fair play to ya Charlie, keep taking the tablets ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 12, 2007, 11:59:33 PM
anyone got access to a ticket for croke park on sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 13, 2007, 12:12:47 PM

QuoteDates and venues for the IFC and JFC semi-finals
13 July 2007


The dates and venues have been announced for the semi-finals of the intermediate and junior football championships. In the IFC Cullaville play Wolfe Tones at Abbey Park at 7.30 p.m. on Sunday, JUly 29th and St. Patrick's meet Whitecross in Plunkett Park in Crossmaglen at 7 p.m. on Sunday, 29th of July.

In the JFC semi-finals – Clady are in action against Mullabrack at the Ballymacnab venue on Monday, 23rd of July at 7.30 p.m. and Collegeland face Derrynoose also at Ballymacnab at 7 p.m. on Saturday, July 28th.


no word of the senior championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on July 15, 2007, 11:23:42 AM
Quoteno word of the senior championship?

Probably late August / early September.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 15, 2007, 09:14:28 PM
Does anyone know the latest tables in armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 16, 2007, 08:49:41 AM
Lads has anyone heard anything about this new all armagh b league. It's meant to start this wed and we have heard nothing, we don't know who we play or where it's to be played
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on July 16, 2007, 09:09:02 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 16, 2007, 08:49:41 AM
Lads has anyone heard anything about this new all armagh b league. It's meant to start this wed and we have heard nothing, we don't know who we play or where it's to be played

I think its the top 4 from Mid, North and South that are going into an all-county leaguethough I don't think the top four from the Mid has been sorted yet as last I heard there's a 3-way playoff to take place 1st of all
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 16, 2007, 11:41:26 AM
I heard there was 5 from Mid & 3 from North!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seeheartalk on July 16, 2007, 12:01:09 PM
ALL-County B League starts on Weds and Under-16 League starts on Thurs. Check local papers for fix.
Derrynoose Minors beat Croabh Rua in the Champ semi final last night. Good game.
ANYONE for Newbridge on Sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on July 16, 2007, 12:53:32 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 16, 2007, 11:41:26 AM
I heard there was 5 from Mid & 3 from North!

You could be right there GDS

Ballyhegan will prob play a few extra seniors like they did throughout the league  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 16, 2007, 01:08:08 PM
I'm phoning Kevin Brady later in the afternoon and getting the info off him, if you wait round till tomorrow for the fixtures in the Irish News and then try and let 22 people know about the game in the space of a day it's not enough time and not good enough. what if we need a bus for an away fixture >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on July 16, 2007, 01:20:25 PM
Quote from: seeheartalk on July 16, 2007, 12:01:09 PM
ALL-County B League starts on Weds and Under-16 League starts on Thurs. Check local papers for fix.
Derrynoose Minors beat Croabh Rua in the Champ semi final last night. Good game.
ANYONE for Newbridge on Sunday?

Was this in the Hurling, what was the score, who did the scoring. Derrynoose would have a good chance of the minor C'ship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 16, 2007, 02:10:43 PM
Quote from: BenDover on July 16, 2007, 12:53:32 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 16, 2007, 11:41:26 AM
I heard there was 5 from Mid & 3 from North!

You could be right there GDS

Ballyhegan will prob play a few extra seniors like they did throughout the league  :D :D

Name me one player that isn't allowed to play!!!???
Our B's get a bigger turn out than our seniors!!!

You must have taken your double defeat by the mighty Davitts this year well!  ;D :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 16, 2007, 04:04:56 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 16, 2007, 02:10:43 PM
Quote from: BenDover on July 16, 2007, 12:53:32 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 16, 2007, 11:41:26 AM
I heard there was 5 from Mid & 3 from North!

You could be right there GDS

Ballyhegan will prob play a few extra seniors like they did throughout the league  :D :D

Name me one player that isn't allowed to play!!!???
Our B's get a bigger turn out than our seniors!!!

You must have taken your double defeat by the mighty Davitts this year well!  ;D :P

Goats have the mighty Hegan boys picked up now, that mid armagh b league must be a piece of piss as yous lads could not win a match in north armagh. Although i suppose a few years can make the difference, unearthing new talent and all that ;) :D
Title: B League
Post by: Against the Breeze on July 16, 2007, 04:14:40 PM
illdecide,

Our group in the B League

Dromintee
Mullaghbawn
Madden
Carrickcruppen
Ballyhegan
Clan na Gael


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on July 16, 2007, 04:27:43 PM
Anyone got the times and venues for Monday nights Minor C'ship.

Also any Hurlers out there know if there is Minor C'Ship on Sunday. Seems strange to have both codes c'ship 2 days in a row.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on July 16, 2007, 05:05:58 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 16, 2007, 02:10:43 PM
Quote from: BenDover on July 16, 2007, 12:53:32 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 16, 2007, 11:41:26 AM
I heard there was 5 from Mid & 3 from North!

You could be right there GDS

Ballyhegan will prob play a few extra seniors like they did throughout the league  :D :D

Name me one player that isn't allowed to play!!!???
Our B's get a bigger turn out than our seniors!!!

You must have taken your double defeat by the mighty Davitts this year well!  ;D :P

I'm only going by what we were told which was that Ballyhegan have been fielding illegal players right throughout their league campaign and when challenge by the Ogs over this they asked the Ogs not to say anything until they had won the Mid-Armagh B-league.

I honestly couldnt care less but there are certain people who do
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 16, 2007, 11:41:07 PM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E WEDNESDAY 25 JULY 2007


Wednesday 18 July

ACL – Division IV (8.00)
Shane O'Neill's v Belleek (Paudie Hughes)

Armagh 'B' League – Group A (8.00)
Granemore v Pearse Og (Seamus Faloon)
Tir na nÓg v Killeavey (Paul Boylan)
Silverbridge v An Port Mor (Gerard Devlin)

Armagh 'B' League – Group B (8.00)
Ballyhegan v Clan na Gael (Jim Burns)
Dromintee v Carrickcruppen (Jim Slevin)
Mullaghbawn v Madden (Damian McConville)


Thursday 19 July

Armagh Under-16 League – Group A (8.00)
Harps v Clann Eireann (Stephen McKinley)
Wolfe Tones v Shane O'Neill's (Sean McClatchey)
St Patrick's v Ballymacnab (Barney Henry)

Armagh Under-16 League – Group B (8.00)
Keady v Granemore (Kevin Murtagh)
Tir na nÓg v Killeavey (Tony O'Hare)
Crossmaglen a bye


Sunday 22 July

ACL – Division I (2.00)
Tir na nÓg v Clan na Gael (Oliver Hearty)
Crossmaglen v Dromintee (Damian McConville)
Pearse Og v Harps (Paudie Hughes)
Whitecross v Maghery (Jimmy McKee)
Culloville v Mullaghbawn (Stephen Murray)

ACL – Division II (2.00)
St Peter's v Ballymacnab (Brendan Gorman)
Killeavey v Carrickcruppen (Tony Watters)
Keady v Clann Eireann (Kevin Gallogly)
St Patrick's v Granemore (Gary Smith)
Annaghmore v St Michael's (Ronan Quigley)
Silverbridge v Wolfe Tones (Seamus O'Neill)

ACL – Division III (2.00)
St Paul's v Clady (Off)
Madden v Clonmore (Vincent O'Neill)
Lissummon v Collegeland (Patrick Duffy)
An Port Mor v Crossmaglen II (Paul Boylan)
Ballyhegan v Middletown (Stephen McKinley)
Sarsfields v Tullysaran Sean McClatchey)

ACL – Division IV (2.00)
Eire Og v Corrinshego (Malachy McNicholl)
Derrynoose v Forkhill (Barney Henry)
Phelim Brady's v Mullaghbrack (Off)
Dorsey Emmett's v O'Hanlon's (Jim Lynch)


Monday 23 July

Armagh Junior Football Championship Semi-final (7.30)
Clady v Mullaghbrack (Kevin McNeice) at Ballymacnab

Armagh Minor Football Championship – 2nd Round (7.30)
Crossmaglen v Harps (Gary Smith)
Granemore v St John's (Henry McCloy)
Clann Eireann v Keady (Paudie Hughes)
Maghery v St Patrick's (Sean McClelland)
Carrickcruppen v Pearse Og (Stephen Murray)
Ballyhegan v Tullysaran (Joe Murtagh)
Oliver Plunkett's v Killeavey (Paul Rath)
Madden v Shane O'Neill's (Malachy McNicholl)

First named team has home advantage
Extra time, if required, in all games


Wednesday 25 July

Armagh 'B' Football Championship Semi-final (7.30)
Ballyhegan v Maghery at Portadown (Vincent O'Neill)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 17, 2007, 08:18:52 AM
Quote from: BenDover on July 16, 2007, 05:05:58 PM
I'm only going by what we were told which was that Ballyhegan have been fielding illegal players right throughout their league campaign and when challenge by the Ogs over this they asked the Ogs not to say anything until they had won the Mid-Armagh B-league.

I honestly couldnt care less but there are certain people who do

B@LLS! - Name the illegals!? - People are just surprised at the rise of our B team, compared to last year. (esp. as are seniors aren't doing so well!)

Charlie McKeever has brought in a lot of the younger players & they are growing up in the B team. This couple with a few experienced heads & the return of players that haven't been seen in a while have blended well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on July 17, 2007, 08:46:45 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 17, 2007, 08:18:52 AM
Quote from: BenDover on July 16, 2007, 05:05:58 PM
I'm only going by what we were told which was that Ballyhegan have been fielding illegal players right throughout their league campaign and when challenge by the Ogs over this they asked the Ogs not to say anything until they had won the Mid-Armagh B-league.

I honestly couldnt care less but there are certain people who do

B@LLS! - Name the illegals!? - People are just surprised at the rise of our B team, compared to last year. (esp. as are seniors aren't doing so well!)

Charlie McKeever has brought in a lot of the younger players & they are growing up in the B team. This couple with a few experienced heads & the return of players that haven't been seen in a while have blended well.

Jesus I'm only telling you what was told to me at training one night, as for naming the players how would I know as I dont hail frm that region and I'm not part of the Ogs comittee either
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 08:59:08 AM
Well Goats i shall cross your path tomorrow night, may the best team won (as they'd say in Derry)

Clans fixtures in new B league:

Ballyhegan (a)
Mullaghbawn (h)
Carrickcruppen (a)
Madden (a)
Dromintee (h)

Let me know what number you are wearing so i can hit ya with the odd shoulder :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on July 17, 2007, 09:04:40 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 08:59:08 AM
Well Goats i shall cross your path tomorrow night, may the best team won (as they'd say in Derry)

Let me know what number you are wearing so i can hit ya with the odd shoulder :D :D

:D :D You'd have some chance getting near him, he'll be in the stand
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 17, 2007, 10:32:48 AM
Quote from: BenDover on July 17, 2007, 09:04:40 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 08:59:08 AM
Well Goats i shall cross your path tomorrow night, may the best team won (as they'd say in Derry)

Let me know what number you are wearing so i can hit ya with the odd shoulder :D :D

:D :D You'd have some chance getting near him, he'll be in the stand

Hit me with the shoulder anyways...I miss it! - Once I get my new knee...I tells ye!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 10:50:21 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 17, 2007, 10:32:48 AM
Quote from: BenDover on July 17, 2007, 09:04:40 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 08:59:08 AM
Well Goats i shall cross your path tomorrow night, may the best team won (as they'd say in Derry)

Let me know what number you are wearing so i can hit ya with the odd shoulder :D :D

:D :D You'd have some chance getting near him, he'll be in the stand

Hit me with the shoulder anyways...I miss it! - Once I get my new knee...I tells ye!!!  ;)

I know who you are, your big Seamy or else BO
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 17, 2007, 11:09:27 AM
Ha! BO'll sort ye out tomorrow night allright!  :D

Unfotunately, he's not injured (Well he still playing B football anyway!)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 11:19:18 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 17, 2007, 11:09:27 AM
Ha! BO'll sort ye out tomorrow night allright!  :D

Unfotunately, he's not injured (Well he still playing B football anyway!)



I played against them headcases for years and that courtney bollox as well, they are big lads but there is more football in them they are just big packels dunkels whatever you call them in your neck of the woods. does young McKeever play for them the last time i was talking to him he was riddled with injury's.

Big Seamus McCann is a right lad, he has quit a few years now. I think he broke his leg or something. How will i know you from the bank tomorrow night then Goats???Give me a clue
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 17, 2007, 12:08:40 PM
Banks??? - Sure we've a grand stand now!

I'll hold off till Thursday, I want to see if I'll know many of you first...  ;)

Shane McKeever is doing very well for the B's he's one of the twins, plays centre forward. Big Mickey seems to have recovered from his injuries, but he aint the player he could have been! He's in & out of the senior team currently.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 12:45:48 PM
Easy 3 pts for you Pints on sunday, the tones are bottom so should be a walk in the park. Their manager is a balloon. you's are sticking the pace rightly
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 17, 2007, 12:51:26 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 12:45:48 PM
Easy 3 pts for you Pints on sunday, the tones are bottom so should be a walk in the park. Their manager is a balloon. you's are sticking the pace rightly

WTF illdecide
Stick to your soccer & Buckey
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 17, 2007, 01:07:30 PM
QuoteDates and venues for the IFC and JFC semi-finals
13 July 2007


The dates and venues have been announced for the semi-finals of the intermediate and junior football championships. In the IFC Cullaville play Wolfe Tones at Abbey Park at 7.30 p.m. on Sunday, JUly 29th and St. Patrick's meet Whitecross in Plunkett Park in Crossmaglen at 7 p.m. on Sunday, 29th of July.

In the JFC semi-finals – Clady are in action against Mullabrack at the Ballymacnab venue on Monday, 23rd of July at 7.30 p.m. and Collegeland face Derrynoose also at Ballymacnab at 7 p.m. on Saturday, July 28th.


That's buckin useful. the whole summer to play these matches and they have to schedule the two intermediate semis at the same time so that noone can see them both.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 01:09:54 PM
Quote from: full back on July 17, 2007, 12:51:26 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 12:45:48 PM
Easy 3 pts for you Pints on sunday, the tones are bottom so should be a walk in the park. Their manager is a balloon. you's are sticking the pace rightly

WTF illdecide
Stick to your soccer & Buckey

WTF is your problem FB, the Bridge are playing well and they are at home to the bottom side so a home win would be expected from majority of people.

As for soccer i don't play that crop and buckey don't drink it nor did i ever. As for the manager of the Tones he is a balloon, he was given the job with no management experience and i heard from Tones men that he has lost the respect of the players. So WTF is you problem

you just think everyone from Lurgan drinks bucky and plays soccer, well then you should stop smuggling fuel, laundering money and beating up tourists on the border. do you want me to go on......because one or two people do a certain thing doesn't mean that we all do it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 17, 2007, 01:27:47 PM

Eh, you don't get three points for a win, no matterhow well you play!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 17, 2007, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on July 17, 2007, 01:27:47 PM

Eh, you don't get three points for a win, no matterhow well you play!

My point exactly
Yet again illdecide, its the Clans boys against the world :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 17, 2007, 01:30:40 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 12:45:48 PM
Easy 3 pts for you Pints on sunday, the tones are bottom so should be a walk in the park. Their manager is a balloon. you's are sticking the pace rightly
If our boys go out with that attitude we'll be beat!
Ballyhegan beat us last year at home when they were at the bottom of the table and it took a last minute goal to beat St. Peter's at home.  I hope our boys learned their lesson!

As for sticking the pace, of course we are, why wouldn't we be?

What is happening with Tones, is it all down to the manager?  Going from the bottom of division 1 to the bottom of division 2 in 12 months takes some doing. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 01:32:20 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on July 17, 2007, 01:27:47 PM

Eh, you don't get three points for a win, no matterhow well you play!

Aye i didn't spot that there untill you pointed it out. 2pts then Feck me, yous know what i meant..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 17, 2007, 01:35:05 PM
Apology accepted
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 01:39:28 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 17, 2007, 01:30:40 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 12:45:48 PM
Easy 3 pts for you Pints on sunday, the tones are bottom so should be a walk in the park. Their manager is a balloon. you's are sticking the pace rightly
If our boys go out with that attitude we'll be beat!
Ballyhegan beat us last year at home when they were at the bottom of the table and it took a last minute goal to beat St. Peter's at home.  I hope our boys learned their lesson!

As for sticking the pace, of course we are, why wouldn't we be?

What is happening with Tones, is it all down to the manager?  Going from the bottom of division 1 to the bottom of division 2 in 12 months takes some doing. 


Seriously their manager is rank, he was our chairman a few years back (or some sort of role like that) and he didn't go to one of our away matches the whole year. But when we played in Davitt he prounced around like he owned the place. then the Tones offer him the job as manager and he never managed a team in his life, ok he played for the clans senior team but that doesn't make you a good manager.

Who in their right mind would let a guy manage their senior team without any experience?? Picture this Pints Mr Casey coming over to manage the Bridge (Well i suppose it's not as bad as that)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 17, 2007, 01:41:33 PM
QuotePostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: Re: ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E WEDNESDAY 25 JULY 2007     Reply with quote
centre_half wrote:
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E WEDNESDAY 25 JULY 2007
Sunday 22 July

ACL – Division I (2.00)
Crossmaglen v Dromintee (Damian McConville)


Anyone know where this match is to be held? Is it to be in Cross if they have home advantage?

You got to love orchard county... :D

http://www.orchardcounty.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=34584#34584 (ftp://http://www.orchardcounty.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=34584#34584)

illdecide
QuotePicture this Pints Mr Casey coming over to manage the Bridge (Well i suppose it's not as bad as that)
Aye that'd be great.   :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on July 17, 2007, 02:26:18 PM
QuoteAnyone know where this match is to be held? Is it to be in Cross if they have home advantage?

You got to love orchard county... Cheesy

There are some rare posts on Orchardcounty. Butl I suppose it is good that the young folk in Armagh take an interest in GAA, we have to open to people who are not yet died in the wool GAA people and there may be a few heading to club games that wouldn't have gone if there was a county game every week. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on July 17, 2007, 03:14:44 PM
i'll decide where did you get your fixtures for new leagues. only last week we were told by north armagh board that we weren't in it. typical north board haven't got a clue, no-wonder ballyhagen went to mid board. its not good preperation when you only find out on tueday morning in irish news that we have 2 games on wed and thurs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on July 17, 2007, 03:34:19 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 17, 2007, 01:30:40 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 12:45:48 PM
Easy 3 pts for you Pints on sunday, the tones are bottom so should be a walk in the park. Their manager is a balloon. you's are sticking the pace rightly
If our boys go out with that attitude we'll be beat!
Ballyhegan beat us last year at home when they were at the bottom of the table and it took a last minute goal to beat St. Peter's at home.  I hope our boys learned their lesson!

As for sticking the pace, of course we are, why wouldn't we be?

What is happening with Tones, is it all down to the manager?  Going from the bottom of division 1 to the bottom of division 2 in 12 months takes some doing. 


Bridge v's Tones is off on Sunday,

any word on exact date and venus of cross championship match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 03:56:18 PM
Quote from: armaghtrue on July 17, 2007, 03:14:44 PM
i'll decide where did you get your fixtures for new leagues. only last week we were told by north armagh board that we weren't in it. typical north board haven't got a clue, no-wonder ballyhagen went to mid board. its not good preperation when you only find out on tueday morning in irish news that we have 2 games on wed and thurs

I phoned Kevin Brady yesterday afternoon and asked him what was the craic with this all armagh league and that i needed to know so i could get the word out to the players and he told me that they were just getting them ready for the Irish news and when they had them sorted he would call me back. He then phoned my mobile on the way home from work yesterday evening and thats how i found out.

And for my tea i had sweet and sour chicken (home made) garnished with a few wedges (only messin) :P ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 17, 2007, 04:42:51 PM
what is the point of the new 'b' league. if you win it are you county champions or something
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on July 17, 2007, 05:19:48 PM
Is the rumour that Joe is staying right ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 17, 2007, 05:43:12 PM
Quote from: dontcare on July 17, 2007, 03:34:19 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 17, 2007, 01:30:40 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 12:45:48 PM
Easy 3 pts for you Pints on sunday, the tones are bottom so should be a walk in the park. Their manager is a balloon. you's are sticking the pace rightly
If our boys go out with that attitude we'll be beat!
Ballyhegan beat us last year at home when they were at the bottom of the table and it took a last minute goal to beat St. Peter's at home.  I hope our boys learned their lesson!

As for sticking the pace, of course we are, why wouldn't we be?

What is happening with Tones, is it all down to the manager?  Going from the bottom of division 1 to the bottom of division 2 in 12 months takes some doing. 


Bridge v's Tones is off on Sunday,

Ah Feck and I'd my weekend planned...

Hey illdecide
QuoteTir na nÓg v Clan na Gael (Oliver Hearty)
That would be nearly worth heading too though  ;D 
Can't wait to hear what you've to say on Ollie Hearty, and you thought I, I mean Ronan Quigly ( :P) was bad!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 18, 2007, 08:33:14 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 17, 2007, 05:43:12 PM
Quote from: dontcare on July 17, 2007, 03:34:19 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 17, 2007, 01:30:40 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 12:45:48 PM
Easy 3 pts for you Pints on sunday, the tones are bottom so should be a walk in the park. Their manager is a balloon. you's are sticking the pace rightly
If our boys go out with that attitude we'll be beat!
Ballyhegan beat us last year at home when they were at the bottom of the table and it took a last minute goal to beat St. Peter's at home.  I hope our boys learned their lesson!

As for sticking the pace, of course we are, why wouldn't we be?

What is happening with Tones, is it all down to the manager?  Going from the bottom of division 1 to the bottom of division 2 in 12 months takes some doing. 


Bridge v's Tones is off on Sunday,

Ah Feck and I'd my weekend planned...

Hey illdecide
QuoteTir na nÓg v Clan na Gael (Oliver Hearty)
That would be nearly worth heading too though  ;D 
Can't wait to hear what you've to say on Ollie Hearty, and you thought I, I mean Ronan Quigly ( :P) was bad!

Ive been around a few corners Pints and i have played in a few matches that Mr Hearty has done and what can i say he's no better or worse than the rest of them, personnaly i think we only have 2-3 decent refs in the county.

We have no doubt that Porty will be up for this one all right and i'm sure the players that have been missing in the last few weeks for them all of a suden returns, but we are ready for it and bring it on. By the way where has all the Porty men went from this site, remember when they beat Clans in the championship they were taking over the board now they are nowhere to be seen. Probably busy with the Drumcree issue and did i mention "soccer".
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 18, 2007, 10:08:19 AM
Noticed that myself illdecide. The f**king place was coming down with them - even Fearon came on & started posting sh1te.
Never fear though, 1/2 decent results and they will come running back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on July 18, 2007, 10:25:45 AM
Has Fearon died or something? Not that I miss the bollocks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goldenyears on July 18, 2007, 10:33:51 AM
carrickcruppin destroyed ballyholland in a friendly last night by 13 points! very fit, well drilled, played some lovely football and paul keenan must have scored 10 points, and missed another 6. rare bit of a row halfway thru the second half, but it all boiled over.

cruppin looked on song, hard to imagine them not beating tir na og on that form
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 18, 2007, 10:40:09 AM

You boys probably played your usual "total football" style against cruppen and got run through. thats not how its done in armagh GY.... stop the other crowd first, then beat them!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 18, 2007, 10:48:15 AM
Cruppen are going well, many within Camlough feel that if they can avoid Cross they can get to the county final.
Have they any more transfers on the horizon? Maybe dieselsmuggler can let us know.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on July 18, 2007, 11:27:44 AM
Anyone know the full list of teams in the b league?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 18, 2007, 11:30:13 AM
Quote from: full back on July 18, 2007, 10:48:15 AM
Cruppen are going well, many within Camlough feel that if they can avoid Cross they can get to the county final.
Have they any more transfers on the horizon? Maybe dieselsmuggler can let us know.


Marsden is available for £12,000  :P :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 18, 2007, 11:36:55 AM
Although I hear he has a clause in his contract for relegation.
He will probably activate that & leave for free ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 18, 2007, 11:50:42 AM
mark and neil rooney transfers received clearance from the ulster council - dont see what the big deal is about a couple of lads who have moved to or have lived in the catchment area wanting to play for cruppen!

kieran mcgeeney had been in contact with us as he is moving to a house in camlough but we couldnt guarantee him a starting place on the team so he is sticking with na fianna!  ;) ;D ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 18, 2007, 12:12:03 PM

How is your previously most recent transfer, Davy Kelly, doing for ye Abu?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 18, 2007, 12:17:20 PM
you still have it wrong uladh!

david kelly is playing very well for us at centre half back! if you really want to know my identity p.j i will tell you! i have nothing to hide nor am i afraid to hide behind the username anonymity!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goldenyears on July 18, 2007, 12:17:48 PM
ur right uladh! it was poor stuff to watch from us.....but most of us were v impressed with cruppin.

centre half back was tasty last night, hard, full of running, and did a good job
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 18, 2007, 12:21:09 PM

Am i right in assuming you mightn't have run after him that much?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goldenyears on July 18, 2007, 12:37:00 PM
smart fella uladh? i wasnt playing at 11, joe mcnally style full forward role now!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 18, 2007, 12:46:45 PM

lol.

you've become more of a cerebral footballer these days than a water carrier anyway!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 18, 2007, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on July 18, 2007, 12:17:20 PM
you still have it wrong uladh!

david kelly is playing very well for us at centre half back! if you really want to know my identity p.j i will tell you! i have nothing to hide nor am i afraid to hide behind the username anonymity!

When David Kelly played for Clann Eireann he was a good athlete (fitness, speed and good in the air) but he had the nickname of "Forest Gump" where if you didn't close the gate at the top of the field you would not have seen him again. and he was prone to the odd hoofe 200ft in the air shots. But not a bad footballer if he had a brain, infact if he had a brain he'd be playing for Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 19, 2007, 08:30:31 AM
Right Goats lets get it over with. Ballhegan beat the Clans by 3pts last night, some good points taken from both sides. some hard hitting but fair and as usual the clans couldn't score in T Fearon's house. but it was a good game and the ref let the game flow even when guys were fowled if they were still in possesion he let them carry on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on July 19, 2007, 10:44:51 AM
QuoteHow is your previously most recent transfer, Davy Kelly, doing for ye Abu?

u still have it wrong uladh u dumb bag...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on July 19, 2007, 10:48:17 AM
QuoteBallhegan beat the Clans by 3pts last night

any other b results? cruppen beat drumintee by 4 points........good team performance by cruppen who trailed by 1 at half time...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 19, 2007, 11:02:27 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 19, 2007, 08:30:31 AM
Right Goats lets get it over with. Ballhegan beat the Clans by 3pts last night, some good points taken from both sides. some hard hitting but fair and as usual the clans couldn't score in T Fearon's house. but it was a good game and the ref let the game flow even when guys were fowled if they were still in possesion he let them carry on.

Yeah good game, think it came to life with a few of the heavier hits & scuffles...

You are correct there were some terrific scores from both sides. I thought when the Davitts went 7 points up it was over, but fair play to Clans they struck a wonderful goal to get back in touch! & set up an exciting finish. Think our goal kept a charmed existence for most of the 2nd half though, as there were at least 3 serious goal chances!

I haven't played against the Clans since minor level 7 Years ago...but I think 'Soupy' campbell was the only player I kinda knew! - What position where you?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 19, 2007, 11:14:38 AM
Quotesmart fella uladh? i wasnt playing at 11, joe mcnally style full forward role now!!

How things have changed GY?  Gone are those tortutous days running round Kilbroney after Coffey on gold Decemeber mornings!

While I may be big  I can thankfully say I am not in the Joe McNally mode yet.  Tell me have you followed Joe and also the family line and grown a Boycie tache? ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 19, 2007, 11:47:27 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 19, 2007, 11:02:27 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 19, 2007, 08:30:31 AM
Right Goats lets get it over with. Ballhegan beat the Clans by 3pts last night, some good points taken from both sides. some hard hitting but fair and as usual the clans couldn't score in T Fearon's house. but it was a good game and the ref let the game flow even when guys were fowled if they were still in possesion he let them carry on.

Yeah good game, think it came to life with a few of the heavier hits & scuffles...

You are correct there were some terrific scores from both sides. I thought when the Davitts went 7 points up it was over, but fair play to Clans they struck a wonderful goal to get back in touch! & set up an exciting finish. Think our goal kept a charmed existence for most of the 2nd half though, as there were at least 3 serious goal chances!

I haven't played against the Clans since minor level 7 Years ago...but I think 'Soupy' campbell was the only player I kinda knew! - What position where you?

Don't know what number i had on my back, came on for the last 10 mins at CHB to give Mr Mckeever a taste of his own medicine. Couldn't play the match i was weak as water dose of the skites for the last 3 days and hardly eaten anything. but when you call the shots you can play whoever you like.

We went for goal far to early, there was still about 15 mins to go and we should have been taking points. Missed some sitters
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 19, 2007, 07:12:13 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 17, 2007, 01:30:40 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 12:45:48 PM
Easy 3 pts for you Pints on sunday, the tones are bottom so should be a walk in the park. Their manager is a balloon. you's are sticking the pace rightly
If our boys go out with that attitude we'll be beat!
Ballyhegan beat us last year at home when they were at the bottom of the table and it took a last minute goal to beat St. Peter's at home.  I hope our boys learned their lesson!

As for sticking the pace, of course we are, why wouldn't we be?

What is happening with Tones, is it all down to the manager?  Going from the bottom of division 1 to the bottom of division 2 in 12 months takes some doing. 


the fact that silverbridge scored an injury time goal after about 6 minutes of injury time may suggest otherwise.the bridge have a habit of sometimes struggling against so called lesser teams.the tones are in such a state because only around 4 or five of the players that beat cross on the first day of the season a few years ago are still on the team for various reasons.the goalkeeper and five of the starting 6 defenders are still under 21 and our best defender is in america.id say its between us,peters and annaghmore for the drop
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 19, 2007, 07:20:21 PM
Cruppen beat Dromintee handy enough. Although the ref gave Cruppen some of the craziest things I have seen on a football field it still would of mattered and were alot better than there 4 pijnts suggested for me. Is it a knock out or a league for this Armagh B thing?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 19, 2007, 08:13:48 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 19, 2007, 07:12:13 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 17, 2007, 01:30:40 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 17, 2007, 12:45:48 PM
Easy 3 pts for you Pints on sunday, the tones are bottom so should be a walk in the park. Their manager is a balloon. you's are sticking the pace rightly
If our boys go out with that attitude we'll be beat!
Ballyhegan beat us last year at home when they were at the bottom of the table and it took a last minute goal to beat St. Peter's at home.  I hope our boys learned their lesson!

As for sticking the pace, of course we are, why wouldn't we be?

What is happening with Tones, is it all down to the manager?  Going from the bottom of division 1 to the bottom of division 2 in 12 months takes some doing. 


the fact that silverbridge scored an injury time goal after about 6 minutes of injury time may suggest otherwise.the bridge have a habit of sometimes struggling against so called lesser teams.the tones are in such a state because only around 4 or five of the players that beat cross on the first day of the season a few years ago are still on the team for various reasons.the goalkeeper and five of the starting 6 defenders are still under 21 and our best defender is in america.id say its between us,peters and annaghmore for the drop
What was that first sentence in response to? (Sorry, I'm a bit slow)

We got into a bad habit last year of struggling against the so called weaker teams because, in my opinion, we thought the points were ours before we left the changing room. 
This year has been different *touch wood* and I'd like to think lessons were learned. It probably has something to do with the competition for places as well.
I know the Tones have a young team, though the Bridge are just as young (I can't comment on others). The average age is never over 21, in fact the teams that beat Ballymacnab by 10 points and Annaghmore by 13 had, according to my rough calculation, an average age of 20. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on July 20, 2007, 12:07:46 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 19, 2007, 07:20:21 PM
Cruppen beat Dromintee handy enough. Although the ref gave Cruppen some of the craziest things I have seen on a football field it still would of mattered and were alot better than there 4 pijnts suggested for me. Is it a knock out or a league for this Armagh B thing?

it is split into 2 groups with the top team in each group contesting the final to be declared county champions
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 20, 2007, 09:17:22 AM
Quote from: inthemaking on July 20, 2007, 12:07:46 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 19, 2007, 07:20:21 PM
Cruppen beat Dromintee handy enough. Although the ref gave Cruppen some of the craziest things I have seen on a football field it still would of mattered and were alot better than there 4 pijnts suggested for me. Is it a knock out or a league for this Armagh B thing?

it is split into 2 groups with the top team in each group contesting the final to be declared county champions

All county 'League' Champions!

Championship continues next Wednesday night, when mid Champs Ballyhegan take on North Armagh champs (& other half of the former underage Shamrocks almagamation) Maghery.

...Should be interesting!!!  ;D

Did the 'Bridge win South Armagh again?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 20, 2007, 09:55:55 AM
pints my first line was in response to the fact that you should get an easy "three"points.understand that you have a young tyeam also,however,the bridge have always been seen as a footballing team.the tones team that stayed in division one was one of experienced strong footballers.one of the main strengths of the team was the brute strength throughout it.alot of these new boys although talented do not have the physical presecence of three or four years ago
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Loup Bandit on July 20, 2007, 10:22:08 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 20, 2007, 09:55:55 AM
pints my first line was in response to the fact that you should get an easy "three"points.understand that you have a young tyeam also,however,the bridge have always been seen as a footballing team.the tones team that stayed in division one was one of experienced strong footballers.one of the main strengths of the team was the brute strength throughout it.alot of these new boys although talented do not have the physical presecence of three or four years ago

Agreed! Well said Charlie Stubbs!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 20, 2007, 10:30:54 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 20, 2007, 09:55:55 AM
pints my first line was in response to the fact that you should get an easy "three"points.understand that you have a young tyeam also,however,the bridge have always been seen as a footballing team.the tones team that stayed in division one was one of experienced strong footballers.one of the main strengths of the team was the brute strength throughout it.alot of these new boys although talented do not have the physical presecence of three or four years ago

are u dudes still making an issue over me saying 3pts instead of 2pts. FFS get a life or talk about something that has a bit of importance :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on July 20, 2007, 10:32:52 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 20, 2007, 09:17:22 AM
Quote from: inthemaking on July 20, 2007, 12:07:46 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 19, 2007, 07:20:21 PM
Cruppen beat Dromintee handy enough. Although the ref gave Cruppen some of the craziest things I have seen on a football field it still would of mattered and were alot better than there 4 pijnts suggested for me. Is it a knock out or a league for this Armagh B thing?

it is split into 2 groups with the top team in each group contesting the final to be declared county champions

All county 'League' Champions!

Championship continues next Wednesday night, when mid Champs Ballyhegan take on North Armagh champs (& other half of the former underage Shamrocks almagamation) Maghery.

...Should be interesting!!!  ;D

Did the 'Bridge win South Armagh again?

no cullyhanna beat us in the final a few weeks ago
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 20, 2007, 01:44:03 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 20, 2007, 09:55:55 AM
pints my first line was in response to the fact that you should get an easy "three"points.understand that you have a young tyeam also,however,the bridge have always been seen as a footballing team.the tones team that stayed in division one was one of experienced strong footballers.one of the main strengths of the team was the brute strength throughout it.alot of these new boys although talented do not have the physical presecence of three or four years ago
Same as ourselves charlie, some very talented skillful footballers but very little strength but we've adapted our game to suit them and it's working. 
I reckon yous will come good (only for a very good finish to last year we could have been facing relegation playoffs) it'll take time, and a lot patience!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 20, 2007, 01:54:00 PM
Quoteno cullyhanna beat us in the final a few weeks ago
Ther was a fella from St Pats at the Ballyhegan match on Tuesday night. Kevin Someone?

He said he was over St Pats. - He never quit talking about dirty football teams. So I asked him was he over St Pats last year, he was! - I tolld him a few 'Bridge men I know (Well sorta through this Board) would have some laugh at you calling other teams dirty!

- He got all defensive stating that Silverbridge started that row & stuff... I switched off at that stage...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 20, 2007, 08:49:17 PM
pints are the bridge better or worse this year compared to last year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 20, 2007, 09:39:43 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 20, 2007, 01:54:00 PM
Quoteno cullyhanna beat us in the final a few weeks ago
Ther was a fella from St Pats at the Ballyhegan match on Tuesday night. Kevin Someone?

He said he was over St Pats. - He never quit talking about dirty football teams. So I asked him was he over St Pats last year, he was! - I tolld him a few 'Bridge men I know (Well sorta through this Board) would have some laugh at you calling other teams dirty!

- He got all defensive stating that Silverbridge started that row & stuff... I switched off at that stage...
:D 
I read that on my way back to work from lunch and it kept be going all evening. 
They're great craic alright, our local paper, the monday after the game, had headlines on the back page talking about "horrific scenes of violence" at the match while St. Pat's PRO, in their club notes, described it as "a few shuffles".    :)

twotowcharlie
Quotepints are the bridge better or worse this year compared to last year.
I would say better but of course it depends on what you mean by better. 
Our boys will only improve and not only are they ones who were last years team improving, but we have 7 that have come on to the panel from last years minor team and they're doing exceptionally well, add Murchan, Campbell and young Hearty from the last years B team, Peter Burns back on the panel, we're actually gathering a very strong panel. 

We finished last year with 25 points – we've  played 10 games this year and have 15 points. 
Bare in mind that not once have we put out our strongest team.
We've had Liam Campbell serve a 4 week suspension
Damien McCann serve a 4 week suspension
Niall Reel out with injury for 5/6? weeks
Pete McCreesh out for 4 weeks or something with getting married.
Ryan Hamill gone away for the summer.
Brendan Bellew break his leg. 
Those are not only starters but KEY players.

Oh yeah and Ciaran Conlon walked away too.   

I've to be honest and say, they are surprising me.  Long may it continue. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 21, 2007, 12:50:41 PM
barry on orchardcounty has posted up an interesting article from Lurgan Mail...
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Since 1977 Armagh have seen a 30 year spell which is unprecedented in the history of the county's structures, many great players have pulled on the orange jersey, but do the men of 77, 80 or 82 match up to the more recent stars. while the younger Armagh supporters may only have read about the abilities of people like Jimmy Smyth, Paddy Moriarity and Tom McCreesh would the stars of yesteryear make a county select based on performances over the last three decades.

Literally hundreds of players have worn the Armagh colours since the side came to prominence back in the mid seventies. But which players would make a team from service rendered 1977 to 2007. This is The Mail's best 15.

Goalkeeper - Brian McAlinden, Sarsfields. Even considering that Paul Hearty is an exceptional keeper, and Benny Tierney had many great years between the posts, McAlinden comes out on top, starRed for Ulster may times and was continuously the county's saviour. Top class goalkeeper and the best in 30 years.


Right corner back - Dennis Stevenson, Sarsfields. Right back on the Armagh team of the century. Brilliant corner back in his day and gets the nod in front of Andy Mallon who still has a lot of county mileage left. Stevenson was top class.

Centre full back - Jim McKerr, Clan Na Gael. Had the lot, and also played in the forwards for Armagh. South Armagh people might disagree but the Clans man was better than both Tom McCreesh and Francie Bellew, great left foot and a master craftsman. 19 years old in the 1977 final.

Left full back - Enda McNulty, Ballyboden St Enda's. One of the best players of his generation equals Dennis Stevenson's greatness in an orange jersey; Enda has been a rock in the county's defence for many years. Super year in 2002.

Right half back - Paddy Moriarity, Wolfe Tones. All Star at 19 and won his second award in 1977 from centre half back having started the year in the forwards. Has to be on this team. Even considering the exploits of Aaron Kernan, Aidan O'Rourke and Andrew McCann, Mo was one of the all time greats, better at number 6 but that's Geezer's place.

Centre half back - Kieran McGeeney, Na Fiana. Only one player for this position. Absolutely nothing to prove in an Armagh Jersey. Fitting that he got to lift the Sam Maguire back in 2002 and could always have a role in Armagh affairs, totally dedicated player.

Left half back - Martin McQuillan, St Pat's Dorsey. One of Armagh's most classiest players has seven Railway Cup medals to his credit won with Ulster. Played in the 1990s and would have fitted like a glove in the modern system. Speedy defender with real class.

Midfield No. 8 - Neil Smyth, Mullaghbawn. Brilliant midfielder who played on a team who won very little, Smyth had and athleticism, better all rounder than McKinstry, McGrane or Burns. Smashing player.

Midfield No. 9 - Joe Kernan, Crossmaglen. Two goals against Dublin in the 77 All Ireland set him up for an All Star, formed the greatest ever Armagh midfield partnership with Colm McKinstry, Kernan was brilliant in the air and on the ground.

Right half forward - Oisin McConville, Crossmaglen. Probably the most influential players ever to play for the county. Always there when it mattered. Superstar in his own right and Ulster's top scorer of all time.

Centre half forward - Jimmy Smyth, Clan na Gael. Despite the numerous nominations for the number 11 shirt. Smyth sticks out like a sore thumb. Class act who could only be pushed for the place by John McEntee.

Left half forward - Kieran McGurk, Sarsflelds. Played for many years in a variety of positions. Great left foot and strong on the ball with it, the ideal play maker and was instrumental in creating a host of chances for the man we have chosen to wear 14.

Right full forward - Steven McDonnell, Killeavey. Unchallenged for the position, will be remembered as one of the great modern forwards along with Canavan and Linden.

Centre full forward - Gerard Houlahan, Pearse Ogs.. Kept Armagh afloat when times were not so good for the county. Prolific scorer.

Left full forward - Peter Loughran, Carrickcruppin. Peter passed away a number of years ago but he would be remembered for being one of Armagh most consistent forwards, got the nod here in front of big names such as Dairmaid Marsden and John Corvan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rrhf on July 21, 2007, 12:56:13 PM
Tell me this.  Did Jim Mc Kerr mark frank Mc Guigan in the 84 Ulster final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 21, 2007, 01:08:36 PM
QuoteLeft half back - Martin McQuillan, St Pat's Dorsey.


Jaysus McQuillan done shockin well for Armagh for so many years seeing as he played for a club that doesn't exist.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 21, 2007, 08:17:22 PM
pints it's not the whole storey to say c c walked away and you know that . i also recall making the semi of the imd champ. but if you count big scores against the nab and annaghmore as progress then dream on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on July 21, 2007, 08:25:37 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 21, 2007, 12:50:41 PM
barry on orchardcounty has posted up an interesting article from Lurgan Mail...
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Since 1977 Armagh have seen a 30 year spell which is unprecedented in the history of the county's structures, many great players have pulled on the orange jersey, but do the men of 77, 80 or 82 match up to the more recent stars. while the younger Armagh supporters may only have read about the abilities of people like Jimmy Smyth, Paddy Moriarity and Tom McCreesh would the stars of yesteryear make a county select based on performances over the last three decades.

Literally hundreds of players have worn the Armagh colours since the side came to prominence back in the mid seventies. But which players would make a team from service rendered 1977 to 2007. This is The Mail's best 15.

Goalkeeper - Brian McAlinden, Sarsfields. Even considering that Paul Hearty is an exceptional keeper, and Benny Tierney had many great years between the posts, McAlinden comes out on top, starRed for Ulster may times and was continuously the county's saviour. Top class goalkeeper and the best in 30 years.


Right corner back - Dennis Stevenson, Sarsfields. Right back on the Armagh team of the century. Brilliant corner back in his day and gets the nod in front of Andy Mallon who still has a lot of county mileage left. Stevenson was top class.

Centre full back - Jim McKerr, Clan Na Gael. Had the lot, and also played in the forwards for Armagh. South Armagh people might disagree but the Clans man was better than both Tom McCreesh and Francie Bellew, great left foot and a master craftsman. 19 years old in the 1977 final.

Left full back - Enda McNulty, Ballyboden St Enda's. One of the best players of his generation equals Dennis Stevenson's greatness in an orange jersey; Enda has been a rock in the county's defence for many years. Super year in 2002.

Right half back - Paddy Moriarity, Wolfe Tones. All Star at 19 and won his second award in 1977 from centre half back having started the year in the forwards. Has to be on this team. Even considering the exploits of Aaron Kernan, Aidan O'Rourke and Andrew McCann, Mo was one of the all time greats, better at number 6 but that's Geezer's place.

Centre half back - Kieran McGeeney, Na Fiana. Only one player for this position. Absolutely nothing to prove in an Armagh Jersey. Fitting that he got to lift the Sam Maguire back in 2002 and could always have a role in Armagh affairs, totally dedicated player.

Left half back - Martin McQuillan, St Pat's Dorsey. One of Armagh's most classiest players has seven Railway Cup medals to his credit won with Ulster. Played in the 1990s and would have fitted like a glove in the modern system. Speedy defender with real class.

Midfield No. 8 - Neil Smyth, Mullaghbawn. Brilliant midfielder who played on a team who won very little, Smyth had and athleticism, better all rounder than McKinstry, McGrane or Burns. Smashing player.

Midfield No. 9 - Joe Kernan, Crossmaglen. Two goals against Dublin in the 77 All Ireland set him up for an All Star, formed the greatest ever Armagh midfield partnership with Colm McKinstry, Kernan was brilliant in the air and on the ground.

Right half forward - Oisin McConville, Crossmaglen. Probably the most influential players ever to play for the county. Always there when it mattered. Superstar in his own right and Ulster's top scorer of all time.

Centre half forward - Jimmy Smyth, Clan na Gael. Despite the numerous nominations for the number 11 shirt. Smyth sticks out like a sore thumb. Class act who could only be pushed for the place by John McEntee.

Left half forward - Kieran McGurk, Sarsflelds. Played for many years in a variety of positions. Great left foot and strong on the ball with it, the ideal play maker and was instrumental in creating a host of chances for the man we have chosen to wear 14.

Right full forward - Steven McDonnell, Killeavey. Unchallenged for the position, will be remembered as one of the great modern forwards along with Canavan and Linden.

Centre full forward - Gerard Houlahan, Pearse Ogs.. Kept Armagh afloat when times were not so good for the county. Prolific scorer.

Left full forward - Peter Loughran, Carrickcruppin. Peter passed away a number of years ago but he would be remembered for being one of Armagh most consistent forwards, got the nod here in front of big names such as Dairmaid Marsden and John Corvan.

Good article, and not a bad stab at the team. Mine would be though,

Brain McAlinden,
Andy Mallon,
Jim McKerr,
Enda McNulty,
Paddy Moriarty,
Kieran McGeeney,
Martin McQuillan,
Paul McGrane,
Mark Grimley,
Oisin McConville,
Joe Kernan,
Gerard Houlahan,
Steven McDonnell,
Ronan Clarke,
Johnny Corvan.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 21, 2007, 09:42:55 PM

There's something sad about the poor down fella wandering about soullessly on our threads, because there's no football worth talking about in his own county. he's like the a toddler who keeps trying to get involved in the adults conversations. he starts a sentance then stops when he realises noone is listening...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Midman on July 21, 2007, 10:07:56 PM

You have to love internet warriors!  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on July 21, 2007, 10:52:47 PM
Fight! Fight! Back of the ball alley now!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 22, 2007, 12:11:00 AM
I never saw all of those guys playing, i am a young thing  :D ;) but i have had the pleasure of watching the gremlins playing for Armagh and i would agree with the down guy they shouldn't be on Armagh's best 15. Mc Quillan was an exceptional footballer in his day and he, like the grimleys to be fair played for Armagh when times were tough. Another man who was a good one for Armagh was there's something in the air ( It's Hollywood) I never forget that day in the athletics grounds when he bagged the goals against fermanagh. Armagh went on to have a great year that year. In all honesty we take the the piss out of a lot of players here lads on this board but if they are playing on a sunday afternoon we will all be out supporting them. Them lads have given some commitment in their lives and long may it continue. This is why we will never agree on a first 15.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on July 22, 2007, 12:25:00 AM
So far we have a North Armagh paper with a North Armagh bias, a Mid Armagh man with a Mid Armagh bias - I am just waiting for Joe Kernan to post.... :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on July 22, 2007, 12:43:06 AM
Quote from: 02 on July 22, 2007, 12:25:00 AM
So far we have a North Armagh paper with a North Armagh bias, a Mid Armagh man with a Mid Armagh bias - I am just waiting for Joe Kernan to post.... :P

Aye right - I just loved putting three Pearse Og men on my team!!  ::)

And I count eight southern men on the North Armagh papers' fifteen, whilst my own has six Southern men, five mid and four north!?! Bias!?!   :D

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on July 22, 2007, 12:44:26 AM
Quote from: 5iveTimes on July 21, 2007, 10:00:00 PM
Uladh anytime you are man enough, name a time and a place. Anytime


:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 22, 2007, 01:08:19 AM
QuoteUladh anytime you are man enough, name a time and a place. Anytime

Never was a contributor better summed up by one of his own posts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 22, 2007, 01:26:56 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on July 21, 2007, 08:17:22 PM
pints it's not the whole storey to say c c walked away and you know that . i also recall making the semi of the imd champ. but if you count big scores against the nab and annaghmore as progress then dream on.
Charlie charlie charlie
I started to assume some time ago that you were a bridge man, am I right?
I also got the impression when you asked me had the team improved this year you were dying for me to say they hadn't because Ciaran Conlon isn't there. 
Yes we did reach the intermediate semi last year and were dumped out by St Peters this year in what can only be described as a freak result!  If you want to be lazy about it you could say the team has gone backward but that would be the analysis of a five year old. 
If you like I can go into great detail mapping out exactly how the team have improved, in fact I can't understand how you say they haven't.   
Maybe instead of using cheap remarks you could tell me or is a freak result in the  championship your entire argument?
You can shrug of the results against Ballymacnab and Annaghmore if you like but anyone who knows anything about the bridge will know that considering the players we were missing, the youngsters we had playing, they were very positive results. 
When your six forwards include 4 minors from last year, an player that was under 21 last year and a 20/21 year old and they rack up scores like 1-16 and 1-12 against any division two opposition  it's positive!  The Killeavy result was another massive result, dumped out of the championship 5 days earlier, had Ciaran Conlon walk away in the same week and face an unbeaten team, away from home and without players like McCann, Reel and Bellew and beat them!

On Ciaran Conlon (again!)...yes he did walk away.  Anyone at the St. Pats game seen him walking away!  You went from not knowing if he's playing with us to knowing everything.  If he didn't walk away tell me what he done? 
Feel free to PM me if you don't want to take it public.
Btw, if you are a bridge man, you're the only one I know that isn't behind the club and management on the issue, in fact, there has never even been any debate on it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 22, 2007, 03:06:24 AM
rufus
Quote
Brain McAlinden,
Andy Mallon,
Jim McKerr,
Enda McNulty,
Paddy Moriarty,
Kieran McGeeney,
Martin McQuillan,
Paul McGrane,
Mark Grimley,
Oisin McConville,
Joe Kernan,
Gerard Houlahan,
Steven McDonnell,
Ronan Clarke,
Johnny Corvan.

Has Clarke pushed Houlahan out to half forward or would you have him out there anyway rufus?
I don't think Clarke has come  close (not yet anyway) to pushing Houlie out of position.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 22, 2007, 10:01:42 AM
Quote from: 5iveTimes on July 21, 2007, 10:00:00 PM
Uladh anytime you are man enough, name a time and a place. Anytime

Thank you. You can't imagine how hard i laughed at that post.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on July 22, 2007, 11:21:04 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 22, 2007, 03:06:24 AM
rufus
Quote
Brain McAlinden,
Andy Mallon,
Jim McKerr,
Enda McNulty,
Paddy Moriarty,
Kieran McGeeney,
Martin McQuillan,
Paul McGrane,
Mark Grimley,
Oisin McConville,
Joe Kernan,
Gerard Houlahan,
Steven McDonnell,
Ronan Clarke,
Johnny Corvan.

Has Clarke pushed Houlahan out to half forward or would you have him out there anyway rufus?
I don't think Clarke has come  close (not yet anyway) to pushing Houlie out of position.

Although Houlie made his name at full forward pints, he played effectively for many years at left half forward (if my memory serves me well). Both Clarke and Houlie to my mind need inclusion, with Clarke's role being solely in full forward, and thus slotting him in at 14.

Fran McMahon (midfield) and Diarmaid Marsden (full forward line) would have been very close to inclusion.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 22, 2007, 12:34:59 PM
I remember Houlahan playing in the half forward line too but he was far more effective around goal.
(I was reading an article on Hoganstand about him, done back in 1992, how close did we come to knowing him as a goalkeeper...)

I don't think Clarke has done enough to make that team (maybe in a few years) and I'd probably have Marsden ahead of him though if you're putting Pearse og men in who am I to argue...



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 22, 2007, 12:38:57 PM
pints you must be on mars .There are a lot of people very annoyed by the situation and the way it was handled by management.
I am not going to refer to this again . Can you remember who said "anyone could take the bridge back to div 1 and win the imd championship". CAN YOU.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 22, 2007, 12:44:16 PM
Quotepints you must be on mars .There are a lot of people very annoyed by the situation and the way it was handled by management.
I am not going to refer to this again .
Bullshit.

QuoteCan you remember who said "anyone could take the bridge back to div 1 and win the imd championship". CAN YOU.
Um..No! 

Thanks for answering the rest of my points  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 22, 2007, 12:52:35 PM
pints you are such a loser.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 22, 2007, 12:56:58 PM
Great argument... ::)
You're not going to tell me how the team are worse off then?

Check your Pms as well...but I suppose you'll run away from that to. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 22, 2007, 12:58:30 PM
pints seeing you're great guy for stats Killeavy had 7 missing on the day in question but don,t let the facts get in the way of your warped vision. Remember i know you and i know where you're coming from. Au revoir mon ami.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 22, 2007, 01:10:49 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on July 22, 2007, 12:58:30 PM
pints seeing you're great guy for stats Killeavy had 7 missing on the day in question but don,t let the facts get in the way of your warped vision. Remember i know you and i know where you're coming from. Au revoir mon ami.
You know me and where I'm coming from?   :D  I doubt it...
If you want to have a sensible discussion about the team, Killeavy game or anything else (through PM or on here) fair enough but you have to leave the nonsense out of it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 22, 2007, 03:16:36 PM
it takes two to have a sensible discussion pints . do you have an older sister i could talk to.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 22, 2007, 03:25:56 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on July 22, 2007, 03:16:36 PM
it takes two to have a sensible discussion pints . do you have an older sister i could talk to.
:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on July 22, 2007, 04:28:24 PM
Annaghmore were beaten by some awful refereeing decisions a point by St Micheals today.  I will get a report up later when i am not so angry that the ref booked one of their player 3 times before sending him off as well as countless other questionable decisions in what was without doubt the most inept performance I have yet seen from a ref.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on July 22, 2007, 05:13:42 PM
It wasnt our good friend Ronan by any chance David?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on July 22, 2007, 05:32:17 PM
No I dont think so would need to check though,  Game finished with 26 players and our secretary was sent off for complaing after the ref moved a free kick from the sideline into the middle of the nets 9 minutes into injury time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 22, 2007, 05:35:51 PM
Quigly was down to do it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on July 22, 2007, 06:47:45 PM
As I say no idea who it was but he was asked by one of our committee why he moved the ball fully 30 yards from the sideline for the winning score and then not booked anyone.  His response was that and I quote as I was standing there that, "in accordance with rule 2.1 the ball had to be moved into the middle of the posts because the foul was less than 13 metres from the 13 metre line."  Now I found that very strange considering rule 2.1 states

The Referee, facing the players, starts the
game and restarts it after half-time, by
throwing in the ball between two players from
each team, who shall stand one behind the
other in their own defensive sides of the halfway
line. All other players shall be in their
respective positions behind the 45m lines.

Cant see where that means he had to move it but there you go
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 22, 2007, 08:09:57 PM
Harps beat the Ogs today 0-10 to 0-9, fully deserved our victory I thought although I'm sure there'll be plenty who'd disagree ;D  Nippy put in a mamouth shift, well supported by Peadar, Veron, Joe Quigley and Gerard McDonagh.

I cant believe a while ago I was tipping the Ogs to beat Cross, they were/are schocking! They'll be lucky to get past the 'Nab.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 22, 2007, 08:47:17 PM
I'd have to agree with you benny.  we weren't at the races at all today.  It must be the worst we've played all year.  Maybe It'll give us the good kick we need.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on July 22, 2007, 09:07:11 PM
I am delighted with the news of a win over the Ogs, I just got off the phone with a former Ogs player and he was disgusted at the Ogs performance.
The Harps need all the wins we can get these days so well done boys. Rufus I look forward as ever to the report.  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 23, 2007, 08:14:17 AM
Middletown never showed v Ballyhegan. :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 23, 2007, 08:43:35 AM
Have been at a few ogs matches this year and seems like they play better without their county men! Thought Gerard Mc Donagh was first class at full forward for the Harps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 23, 2007, 08:46:41 AM
Clans beat Porty by 3 or 4pts yesterday, the first half was a shocker which showed on the scoreboard Porty 0-4 Clans 0-2. The second half was much better from both sides some lovely points, Carville and Brian Mallon scored 2 cracker points each and Bumpy and Diarmaid likewise.
Clans def on their second half display should start to climb the table (hopefully) as for Porty well if they don't win the next 7 or 8 matches they will be where they belong. It's funny that after that match yesterday the banging on the changing room walls and singing that we heard in Maghery after the championship match was missing (maybe they forgot) ;) :D

well i'm sure we'll be swamped later by their posts (not), is it just me or has all the Porty lads gone AWOL from the board recently.
Title: Harps Victory
Post by: fcuksake on July 23, 2007, 09:44:17 AM
I thought the Harps played well yesterday and fully deserved the 2 points. Glad to see Harps line out at full strength with the exception of collie holmes.

I was dissapointed with the Ogs challenge. I have to disagree with the earlier poster in relation to the ogs being abetter team without the county men. IMO i thought both Andy Mallon & Paul Duffy played well.

Harps should have went in 5/6 points up at the interval. Paedar Toal & Kevin Kelly kicked great scores in the closing minutes. Did Joe Quigley score 4 or 5 points yesterday?

Noticed the Cross management at the game yesterday. they wont be to worried  now.

Anyway congrats to the players yesterday, hopefully this will give them a bit of encouragement to string a few victories together and climb the table.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 23, 2007, 10:08:07 AM
Quote from: fcuksake on July 23, 2007, 09:44:17 AM
I thought the Harps played well yesterday and fully deserved the 2 points. Glad to see Harps line out at full strength with the exception of collie holmes.

I was dissapointed with the Ogs challenge. I have to disagree with the earlier poster in relation to the ogs being abetter team without the county men. IMO i thought both Andy Mallon & Paul Duffy played well.

Harps should have went in 5/6 points up at the interval. Paedar Toal & Kevin Kelly kicked great scores in the closing minutes. Did Joe Quigley score 4 or 5 points yesterday?

Noticed the Cross management at the game yesterday. they wont be to worried  now.

Anyway congrats to the players yesterday, hopefully this will give them a bit of encouragement to string a few victories together and climb the table.

I cant see the cross management coming away with anything useful from that match yesterday. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 23, 2007, 10:39:46 AM
anyone a list of weekend results
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 23, 2007, 10:45:25 AM
Normally they are up on Orchard County by now, but still no sign of them Charlie
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on July 23, 2007, 11:18:19 AM
Annaghmore v Saint Michaels

Annaghmore can feel slightly aggrieved as they fell to their second straight one point defeat at home to Saint Michaels this past weekend.  Annaghmore started brightly with the opening score coming from an Owen McCormack free.  Saint Michaels levelled the match shortly afterward however it was Annaghmore who were getting on top around the middle of the field and scores from Seamus McConville and Martin Tennyson helped them to open up a 0-3 to 0-1 lead after 15 minutes.  This lead though seemed to spark the men from Newtownhamilton into life as they scored an unanswered1-3 in a 10 minute purple patch.  Credit though to Annaghmore who did not let their heads drop and by the time Owen McCormack scored his second point to cut St Michaels lead, Annaghmore were back on top.  Gavin McGilly restored parity to the score sheet with a fine goal on the turn just before half time.

The second half again started brightly for Annaghmore as Shane Smith scored with the first attack of the half.  At this stage Saint Michaels were looking ragged and their frustration began to show and although they managed to draw level again, it did not last long as Owen McCormack restored the home side's lead.  Things then seemed to go from bad to worse for Saint Michaels as they had their full forward red carded for striking off the ball.  This though seemed to fire Saint Michaels as they once again drew level.  At this stage the tensions were rising and the dismissal of first Daniel McCormack and then Gavin McGilly for a seemingly innocuous incident only added to the drama.  Despite being a man down Annaghmore once again took the lead through Shane Smyth and as full time approached and Saint Michaels had another man dismissed for what appeared another innocuous tackle, it looked like this might be the winning score.  However Saint Michaels had other ideas and they were able to draw level six minutes into injury time after the referee moved a free kick fully 30 yards from the sideline to right in front of the posts.  The reason for this move is somewhat unclear as no one was cautioned for any offence.  Despite having already played 36 minutes the drama was not to end there and after winning a 45, 9 minutes into injury time, the responsibility fell to the Saint Michaels goal keeper to try and winning the game for his side.  If he was feeling the pressure he didn't show it as he coolly slotted the ball between the posts.  The game though still didn't finish at this point and although Annaghmore had one last attack they were unable to break through the Saint Michael's rear guard. As a result Annaghmore once again missed out by the narrowest of margins as the game finished Annaghmore 1-7 Saint Michaels1-8.

Annaghmore Scorers

G McGilly 1-0, Owen McCormack 0-3, Shane Smith 0-2, Seamus McConville and Martin Tennyson 0-1 each
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 23, 2007, 11:31:48 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 23, 2007, 08:46:41 AM
Brian Mallon scored 2 cracker points

Alas, some good news!

How did he play?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 23, 2007, 11:43:51 AM
To be honest goats he came on and looked a wee bit unfit, but this is obviously to be expected. Howeve every time he got the ball he looked dangerous, scoring his points from long distance. It is great news that Brian is back because he is the kind of player that can create an opening in any  defence. This is what Armagh have been lacking this year, a real cutiing edge. I just hope all goes well for him on the road back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 23, 2007, 12:47:45 PM
well done to the clans lads. back to the road to avoiding relagation. 4 points next weeked isnt impossible and thats obviously what you'll be after. who played well yesterday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on July 23, 2007, 01:06:11 PM
Anyone got the updated tables?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 23, 2007, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 23, 2007, 11:31:48 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 23, 2007, 08:46:41 AM
Brian Mallon scored 2 cracker points

Alas, some good news!

How did he play?

I agree with WSS, he made a diffrence when he came on at half time (it's hard to beat a bit of quality) and as i said he scored 2 nice points although he does look a bit on the heavy side (eating to much of his Da's beef :D)

By the way Mr Hearty wasn't to bad yesterday, he was fair enough with both teams
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on July 23, 2007, 01:12:01 PM
good win for the clans yesterday i see. was the boy mcalinden playing who was involved in the incident with the referee in whitecross match playing, (think i got the name right). i hear there is some sort of mix up with his suspension
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 23, 2007, 01:28:26 PM
Quote from: armaghtrue on July 23, 2007, 01:12:01 PM
good win for the clans yesterday i see. was the boy mcalinden playing who was involved in the incident with the referee in whitecross match playing, (think i got the name right). i hear there is some sort of mix up with his suspension

He was, the county board did not recieve the ref's report. So until they get one they can't do anything and considering he admitted afterwards that he made a mistake he might not produce one either. thats the only thing i have heard, have you heard something different??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 23, 2007, 01:49:42 PM
Illdecide would you not expect a bit of singing and cheering from Tir Na Nog after they came through the saga or did they go over the top?

With Kernan gone Swift will surely be returning to the panel?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 23, 2007, 01:50:07 PM
Was it the not so great RQ who refereed the Newtown & Annaghmore game yesterday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 23, 2007, 02:10:07 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 23, 2007, 01:49:42 PM
Illdecide would you not expect a bit of singing and cheering from Tir Na Nog after they came through the saga or did they go over the top?

With Kernan gone Swift will surely be returning to the panel?

Corn seriously it was way OTT, banging the walls of the changing rooms and singing at our door"We are the champions" and all that shite. The big difference was when we won we walked of the field like it was half time no celebrating or singing, what was there to celebrate we beat Porty in a league match!!

Porty's problem is that their match with us was their championship final and i would not be one bit surprised if Cruppen beat them in the next round. To be honest i don't care who wins it as neither team will count when the heat is turned up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 23, 2007, 02:40:36 PM
Thats not what they think round Camlough, they reckon there the main challengers to Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 23, 2007, 02:43:43 PM
Correct Corn. Heard that around Camlough myself
Think they were beat by Killeavey last night mind you, so they may have to re-think
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 23, 2007, 02:53:34 PM
i still reckon they'll beat portadown though.

didnt know they were at that craic again this year illdecide. i remember they were at that after a league game about three years ago. its something that will stick in your memory forever!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 23, 2007, 04:00:58 PM
Harps travel to play Cross tonight in the minor championship. What are Cross like, strong as usual?  Any comments/tips from our south armagh bretheren?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 23, 2007, 04:51:11 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on July 23, 2007, 02:53:34 PM
i still reckon they'll beat portadown though.

didnt know they were at that craic again this year illdecide. i remember they were at that after a league game about three years ago. its something that will stick in your memory forever!

LONG TIME NO HEAR SON, YOU MUST BE A BUSY MAN THESE DAYS ;) You know the craic yourself, if thats what floats their boat ::) ::)If a teams only ambition is to beat the clans in the first round of the championship and thats what they are happy with then good luck to them. Thats why they'll never win FA ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 23, 2007, 05:39:56 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on July 23, 2007, 11:18:19 AM
Annaghmore v Saint Michaels

Annaghmore can feel slightly aggrieved as they fell to their second straight one point defeat at home to Saint Michaels this past weekend.  Annaghmore started brightly with the opening score coming from an Owen McCormack free.  Saint Michaels levelled the match shortly afterward however it was Annaghmore who were getting on top around the middle of the field and scores from Seamus McConville and Martin Tennyson helped them to open up a 0-3 to 0-1 lead after 15 minutes.  This lead though seemed to spark the men from Newtownhamilton into life as they scored an unanswered1-3 in a 10 minute purple patch.  Credit though to Annaghmore who did not let their heads drop and by the time Owen McCormack scored his second point to cut St Michaels lead, Annaghmore were back on top.  Gavin McGilly restored parity to the score sheet with a fine goal on the turn just before half time.

The second half again started brightly for Annaghmore as Shane Smith scored with the first attack of the half.  At this stage Saint Michaels were looking ragged and their frustration began to show and although they managed to draw level again, it did not last long as Owen McCormack restored the home side's lead.  Things then seemed to go from bad to worse for Saint Michaels as they had their full forward red carded for striking off the ball.  This though seemed to fire Saint Michaels as they once again drew level.  At this stage the tensions were rising and the dismissal of first Daniel McCormack and then Gavin McGilly for a seemingly innocuous incident only added to the drama.  Despite being a man down Annaghmore once again took the lead through Shane Smyth and as full time approached and Saint Michaels had another man dismissed for what appeared another innocuous tackle, it looked like this might be the winning score.  However Saint Michaels had other ideas and they were able to draw level six minutes into injury time after the referee moved a free kick fully 30 yards from the sideline to right in front of the posts.  The reason for this move is somewhat unclear as no one was cautioned for any offence.  Despite having already played 36 minutes the drama was not to end there and after winning a 45, 9 minutes into injury time, the responsibility fell to the Saint Michaels goal keeper to try and winning the game for his side.  If he was feeling the pressure he didn't show it as he coolly slotted the ball between the posts.  The game though still didn't finish at this point and although Annaghmore had one last attack they were unable to break through the Saint Michael's rear guard. As a result Annaghmore once again missed out by the narrowest of margins as the game finished Annaghmore 1-7 Saint Michaels1-8.

Annaghmore Scorers

G McGilly 1-0, Owen McCormack 0-3, Shane Smith 0-2, Seamus McConville and Martin Tennyson 0-1 each


Newtown are Jammey (sp?) f**kers, that's their last three points they've got from referees. 


Carrickcruppen are not going to challenge cross or get close to them!  What's the basis of these claims?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 23, 2007, 06:16:50 PM
corn and fullback i would love to know where you are hearing these claims that we think that we are the main challengers to cross for the armagh championship! this is total bullshit and certainly not a story that come from the cruppen camp!

we have a match against annaghmore on wednesday night and thats the only thing on our minds at the minute!

so if any of you two want to p/m me with the source of these claims i would be grateful as i am intrigued to find out where they came from!

the way we played against killeavey we wouldnt beat eire og never mind tir na nog!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on July 23, 2007, 08:14:11 PM
Pints I wouldnt blame Newtown for it, the ref was as bad for them as he was for us.  Although they had no complaints about their first sending off, their full forward nearly knocked out our number 3.

Mind you we have had no luck with referees in recent matches, had we have had we would now be mid table and not in a relegation battle.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 23, 2007, 08:16:49 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 23, 2007, 04:51:11 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on July 23, 2007, 02:53:34 PM
i still reckon they'll beat portadown though.

didnt know they were at that craic again this year illdecide. i remember they were at that after a league game about three years ago. its something that will stick in your memory forever!

LONG TIME NO HEAR SON, YOU MUST BE A BUSY MAN THESE DAYS ;) You know the craic yourself, if thats what floats their boat ::) ::)If a teams only ambition is to beat the clans in the first round of the championship and thats what they are happy with then good luck to them. Thats why they'll never win FA ;)

Busy enough chief yeah. find it hard to post here sometimes cos i cant get to see the local games or here rumours about whats going on. did you get a run out against portadown?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 23, 2007, 10:34:15 PM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 22 JULY 2007


Wednesday 18 July

ACL – Division IV
Shane O'Neill's 2-6; Belleek 0-14

Armagh 'B' League – Group A
Granemore 2-11; Pearse Og 1-5
Tir na nÓg 0-7; Killeavey 2-17
Silverbridge 2-14; An Port Mor 1-8

Armagh 'B' League – Group B
Ballyhegan 2-11; Clan na Gael 1-11
Dromintee 2-11; Carrickcruppen 2-16
Mullaghbawn 1-8; Madden 1-12


Thursday 19 July

Armagh Under-16 League – Group A
Harps 4-11; Clann Eireann 1-4
Wolfe Tones v Shane O'Neill's (Off)
St Patrick's 5-15; Ballymacnab 1-4

Armagh Under-16 League – Group B
Keady v Granemore (Off)
Tir na nÓg 7-7; Killeavey 1-9


Sunday 22 July

ACL – Division I
Tir na nÓg 0-10; Clan na Gael 0-13
Crossmaglen v Dromintee (Off)
Pearse Og 0-9; Harps 0-10
Whitecross 3-6; Maghery 1-14
Culloville 2-8; Mullaghbawn 2-13

ACL – Division II
St Peter's 1-8; Ballymacnab 2-11
Killeavey 1-15; Carrickcruppen 1-9
Keady 2-15; Clann Eireann 1-10
St Patrick's v Granemore (Off)
Annaghmore 1-7; St Michael's 1-8
Silverbridge v Wolfe Tones (Off)

ACL – Division III
St Paul's v Clady (Off)
Madden 0-15; Clonmore 0-4
Lissummon 1-11; Collegeland 1-11
An Port Mor v Crossmaglen II (Off)
Ballyhegan v Middletown (Off)
Sarsfields v Tullysaran (Off)

ACL – Division IV
Eire Og v Corrinshego (Off)
Derrynoose v Forkhill (Off)
Phelim Brady's v Mullaghbrack (Off)
Dorsey Emmett's 1-11; O'Hanlon's 3-7



ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 10 9 0 1 18
Mullaghbawn 13 7 2 4 16
Maghery 11 7 1 3 15
Dromintee 11 6 1 4 13
Pearse Og 11 6 1 4 13
Harps 11 4 1 6 9
Clan na Gael 9 3 2 4 8
Whitecross 11 4 0 7 8
Culloville 11 3 1 7 7
Tir na nÓg 12 1 1 10 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
Killeavey 13 10 0 3 20
St Patrick's 10 9 0 1 18
St Michael's 12 7 2 3 16
Silverbridge 10 7 1 2 15
Ballymacnab 13 6 0 7 12
Carrickcruppen 8 5 0 3 10
Clann Eireann 9 4 0 5 8
Keady 11 3 1 7 7
Granemore 7 3 0 4 6
St Peter's 10 2 0 8 4
Wolfe Tones 10 1 2 7 4
Annaghmore 11 2 0 9 4

Division III
P W D L Pts
Madden 10 9 0 1 18
An Port Mor 10 8 0 2 16
Sarsfields 10 8 0 2 16
Lissummon 11 7 1 3 15
Collegeland 11 6 1 4 13
Tullysaran 11 4 2 5 10
Ballyhegan 10 4 0 6 8
Clonmore 13 4 0 9 8
St Paul's 9 3 1 5 7
Middletown 6 2 0 4 4
Clady 11 1 2 8 4
Crossmaglen II 10 1 1 8 3

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Belleek 10 8 0 2 16
Grange 9 7 1 1 15
Eire Og 10 7 0 3 14
Dorsey Emmett's 11 6 2 3 14
Shane O'Neill's 9 5 2 2 12
Derrynoose 9 5 1 3 11
Forkhill 10 5 0 5 10
Mullaghbrack 9 4 0 5 8
O'Hanlon's 12 3 2 7 8
Corrinshego 10 1 0 9 2
Phelim Brady's 11 0 0 11 0


ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 29 JULY 2007


Monday 23 July

Armagh Junior Football Championship semi-final (7.30)
Clady v Mullaghbrack (Kevin McNeice) at Ballymacnab

Armagh Minor Football Championship – 2nd Round (7.30)
Crossmaglen v Harps (Gary Smith)
Granemore v St John's (Henry McCloy)
Clann Eireann v Keady (Paudie Hughes)
Maghery v St Patrick's (Sean McClelland)
Carrickcruppen v Pearse Og (Stephen Murray)
Ballyhegan v Tullysaran (Joe Murtagh)
Oliver Plunkett's v Killeavey (Paul Rath)
Madden v Shane O'Neill's (Malachy McNicholl)
First named team has home advantage
Extra time, if required, in all games


Tuesday 24 July

Armagh Under-16 League – Group A (8.00)
Wolfe Tones v Shane O'Neill's (Sean McClatchey)


Wednesday 25 July

ACL – Division II (8.00)
Carrickcruppen v Annaghmore (Seamus Faloon)

Armagh 'B' Football Championship Semi-final (7.30)
Ballyhegan v Maghery (Vincent O'Neill) at Portadown

Armagh 'B' Football League – Group A (8.00)
Pearse Og v Silverbridge (Damian McConville)
Killeavey v Granemore (Mickey Leonard)
An Port Mor v Tir na nÓg (Jim Lynch)

Armagh 'B' Football League – Group B (8.00)
Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn (Kevin Gallogly)
Madden v Dromintee (Malachy McNicholl)


Thursday 26 July

Armagh Under-16 League – Group A (8.00)
Clann Eireann v St Patrick's (Eamon Nugent)
Shane O'Neill's v Harps (Seamus O'Neill)
Ballymacnab v Wolfe Tones (Joe Murtagh)

Armagh Under-16 League – Group B (8.00)
Granemore v Tir na nÓg (Paudie Hughes)
Killeavey v Crossmaglen (Oliver Hearty)


Friday 27 July

Intermediate Football Championship Semi-Final (7.30)
Culloville v Wolfe Tones (Gerard Devlin) at Abbey Park

ACL – Division I (8.00)
Clan na Gael v Pearse Og (Kevin Murtagh)

ACL – Division II (8.00)
Silverbridge v Clann Eireann (Paul Boylan)
Granemore v St Peter's (Joe Murtagh)

ACL – Division III (8.00)
An Port Mor v Crossmaglen II (Henry McCloy)
Lissummon v Madden (Jim Burns)
Sarsfields v St Paul's (Stephen McKinley)

ACL – Division IV (8.00)
Grange v Eire Og (Paudie Hughes)
Corrinshego v Shane O'Neill's (Patrick Duffy)
Phelim Brady's v Mullaghbrack (Seamus Faloon)


Saturday 28 July

Armagh 'B' League – Group B (7.00)
Carrickcruppen v Ballyhegan (Sean McClelland)

Armagh Under-16 League – Group B (7.00)
Keady v Granemore (Jim Lynch)


Sunday 29 July

Armagh Intermediate Football Championship Semi-Final (7.00)
St Patrick's v Whitecross (Brendan Gorman) at Crossmaglen

Armagh Junior Football Championship Semi-Final (5.00)
Collegeland v Derrynoose (Kevin Murtagh) at Ballymacnab

ACL – Division I (2.00)
Mullaghbawn v Whitecross (Off)
Pearse Og v Crossmaglen (Eamon Nugent)
Clan na Gael v Culloville (Seamus O'Neill)
Maghery v Dromintee (Tony O'Hare)
Harps v Tir na nÓg (Barney Henry)

ACL – Division II (2.00)
Granemore v Annaghmore (Mickey Leonard)
Wolfe Tones v Keady (Jim Burns)
St Michael's v Keady (Dessie McDonnell)
Clann Eireann v St Patrick's (Off)
Silverbridge v St Peter's (Henry McCloy)
Carrickcruppen v Ballymacnab (Gerard Devlin) (12.00)

ACL – Division III (2.00)
Crossmaglen II v Ballyhegan (Kevin Gallogly)
Clonmore v Clady (Jimmy McKee)
Tullysaran v Lissummon (Damian McConville)
Middletown v Madden (Oliver Hearty)
Collegeland v An Port Mor (Off)

ACL – Division IV (2.00)
O'Hanlon's v Derrynoose (Off)
Corrinshego v Dorsey Emmett's (Paul Rath)
Belleek v Eire Og (Noel Martin)
Mullaghbrack v Grange (Vincent O'Neill)
Forkhill v Phelim Brady's (Gary Smith)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Saran Man on July 23, 2007, 11:05:45 PM
Minor Championship and Junior Championship.

Anyone have any results from tonights game in the minor championship or from clady mullabrack game?
Tullysaran beat Ballyhegan in minor championship

Ta very much
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 23, 2007, 11:30:46 PM
cruppen beat pearse ogs in the minor championship tonight on a scoreline of 2-10 to 1-6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on July 23, 2007, 11:32:55 PM
We got scalped by Cross I'm afraid - heavy defeat!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 24, 2007, 08:01:41 AM
Quote from: Saran Man on July 23, 2007, 11:05:45 PM
Minor Championship and Junior Championship.

Anyone have any results from tonights game in the minor championship or from clady mullabrack game?
Tullysaran beat Ballyhegan in minor championship

Ta very much

Clady beat the 'brack by 5 points i'm told.

How much did the 'saran win by?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 24, 2007, 08:24:19 AM
Tullysaran won by a rite bit..... think it was something around 3.11 to 5.  It was a very one sided match with a half time scoreline of 1.7 to 0.1.

Any other minor results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 24, 2007, 09:59:46 AM
HEARD CLANN EIREANN BEAT KEADY (MINOR CHAMPIONSHIP) HANY ENOUGH (WASN'T AT IT)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 24, 2007, 10:00:02 AM
Cross stuffed the Harps, very poor show.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on July 24, 2007, 10:41:43 AM
was the harps return only 3 points benny???? the cross factor must have made them cream themselves...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tintin25 on July 24, 2007, 10:49:49 AM
Yo. Anybody tell me how Silverbridge are getting on this weather. We played them in a challenge a few weeks ago and thought they looked pretty decent. Plenty of pace in the forwards. They have any County lads in minor, u21, senior?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 24, 2007, 11:36:08 AM
Last Night's Results


Armagh Junior Football Championship semi-final
Clady 0-13; Mullaghbrack 0-8

Armagh Minor Football Championship – 2nd Round
Crossmaglen 4-16; Harps 0-3
Granemore 4-10; St John's 0-8
Clann Eireann 4-8; Keady 0-7
Maghery 1-6; St Patrick's 3-9
Carrickcruppen 2-10; Pearse Og 1-6
Ballyhegan 0-5; Tullysaran 3-14
Oliver Plunkett's 3-11; Killeavey 0-7
Madden 2-7; Shane O'Neill's 1-7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 24, 2007, 11:56:22 AM
an portmor beat pearse og aet by 6 points in b league last night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 24, 2007, 12:00:22 PM
Quote from: full back on July 24, 2007, 11:36:08 AM
Last Night's Results


Armagh Junior Football Championship semi-final
Clady 0-13; Mullaghbrack 0-8

Armagh Minor Football Championship – 2nd Round
Crossmaglen 4-16; Harps 0-3
Granemore 4-10; St John's 0-8
Clann Eireann 4-8; Keady 0-7
Maghery 1-6; St Patrick's 3-9
Carrickcruppen 2-10; Pearse Og 1-6
Ballyhegan 0-5; Tullysaran 3-14
Oliver Plunkett's 3-11; Killeavey 0-7
Madden 2-7; Shane O'Neill's 1-7

That is some beating. i'm assuming harps minors are probably of a decent standard too. are tullysarran the only realistic competition for cross for the minor championship?

Cross' dominance is almost complete at this stage every level. they will surely walk the u21 championship too given most of their 2006 team will still be eligible.

Going on the (limited) amount of club football i've seen this year, there is no hope of anyone taking the cross seniors out either and looking at the progression of their underage domination it's only going to get more difficult at senior level for someone to beat them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 24, 2007, 12:06:23 PM
Blackwatertown
Between Armagh & Moy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 24, 2007, 12:16:14 PM
Quote from: Candyman on July 24, 2007, 10:41:43 AM
was the harps return only 3 points benny???? the cross factor must have made them cream themselves...

They were beaten by the sight of the jersey, for a team that showed so much fight when beating the Ogs in the Mick Higgins final it was very disappointing, no belief whatsoever.  To be fair at the start of the year very little was expected of them.

The Cross team is nowhere near as strong as the past couple of years either, I'd go as far as to say it's a poor minor standard this year.  Tullysaran probably are the only realistic challengers to Cross, although 'Cruppen's defeat of the Ogs would suggest they should be decent.  For the Tullysaran boys, everything went through the CHF (Jamie Clarke?), the FF was very dangerous, MF was middling enough, very nippy wing half forwards.  Unfortunately our forwards didn't test their defence to any extent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 24, 2007, 12:25:03 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on July 24, 2007, 10:49:49 AM
Yo. Anybody tell me how Silverbridge are getting on this weather. We played them in a challenge a few weeks ago and thought they looked pretty decent. Plenty of pace in the forwards. They have any County lads in minor, u21, senior?
Out of the championship the first round, towards the top of the division two.  No county players this year though two of team where county minors last year and the Keeper was County under 21 panelist last year. 
Getting on very well, all things considered.
Most of my posts on this thread are about them...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 24, 2007, 12:32:38 PM
It is great to see the young lads getting stronger at home.  They may not be the best of recent years but they will compete to the last.

It is interesting for me as an outsider looking in how things develop in Armagh now.  Obviously Cross have a fantastic set up and a great underage structure but I find it difficult to understand why clubs are not benefitting from the success of Armagh in getting players out to challenge against us.  I presume that the people in the clubs are doing their best but something has to be seriously wrong.  

I can never remember a Harps team being beaten so comprehensively by Cross.  The have the structures and the pedigree within the club and such a defeat would have been unthought of before.  People often talk about teams being two points done at the sight of a certain jersey, and I know that the Cross jersey is one of them, but is that true in real life?  

I am not saying they will win the minors again this year as I do not know enough about the competition as a whole but I would say they will be there, or there abouts on the day of the Final.  I know we have had the success breeding success debate here before, and to a degree that is true but there has to be something more substantive than that for a team of such great tradition as Harps to presumably put in such a poor performance.  Cross have a serious under 21 team, that I do know and by all accounts they will be very hard to stop.  With the break from Armagh, the likes of Oisin and the Macs can only be in better shape than they have been for a few years.  As Uladh said barring something really unusual is there any realistic challengers to Cross over the next five years?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 24, 2007, 12:37:47 PM
Quote from: Uladh on July 24, 2007, 12:00:22 PM

are tullysarran the only realistic competition for cross for the minor championship?


This current team must be the first time in Tullysaran's history that they are looked upon as potentially the best in the county.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 24, 2007, 12:47:46 PM
wen does the draw for the next round of the minor championship take place? and is it an open draw?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on July 24, 2007, 12:49:16 PM
Smoking Joe:

What would you put this down too?

Summer GAA camps in the area

migration into the area
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 24, 2007, 12:50:30 PM
Quote from: Uladh on July 24, 2007, 12:00:22 PM
Cross' dominance is almost complete at this stage every level.

Its like a plot from star wars.

Clubs like the two city clubs should represent the best candidates for challenging Cross. Surely they should have the numbers to go with the tradition? The armagh success bump won't appear on the field for a few years yet but wouldn't make any difference to the likes of ourselves. we already get every possible morsel out on the pitch who can tie their own laces but that rarely translates to a playin body of more than 18 - 22 fo any particular age group.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 24, 2007, 12:53:32 PM
Umgola,
I'm not sure to be honest, I'm not involved closely enough to be able to give a knowledgable answer.

I do know that this age group have been very good right up from Under 12.

Let's just hope that they all continue to wear the red, unlike one of your current team mates  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 24, 2007, 12:57:48 PM
Everything is cyclical to a certain extent, only a few years ago we were Ulster minor champions with a panel of 25 odd, this year we've depended on U16's to field a minor team on numerous ocassions, we've a good U16 team this year(that got suckerpunched in the mid final by a team they beat by 20 in the league) which will hopefully translate into a successful minor team in a year or two.  Harps have huge numbers at the likes of U8, U10, U12 & U14; I would suggest that skills deficiencies etc.. become more pronounced after that age and the numbers dwindle when some realise they're maybe not cut out for gaelic and are more suited to soccer or whatever, because our numbers from U16 up would be no bigger than most country clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on July 24, 2007, 01:03:30 PM
Smoking Joe:

You've lost me!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on July 24, 2007, 01:05:06 PM
IMO cross have the footballers coming through but the majority of them are prepared to go that little bit further, in the words of Aaron Kernan "all we have in cross is cross, in armagh the harps have to contend with soccer rugby and some other sports, its all about crossmaglen rangers gfc for us"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 24, 2007, 01:06:39 PM
Gregory Loughran (I think) played underage football for Tullysaran.

There is always the danger that some of the very good players could get poached by one of the "bigger clubs" in years to come.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on July 24, 2007, 01:15:41 PM
Didnt know that at all !!

you have to start somewhere  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on July 24, 2007, 01:18:21 PM
remember marking loughran at u16 and minor level for the ogs, must have been u10 or 12
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 24, 2007, 01:22:52 PM
I always was under the impression that when the Mac's and Oisin and the rest of their clan retired that other clubs in Armagh would have a fantastic chance of de-throning them. But in the name of F**k where do Cross get these teams from and more importanly what can the rest of us do about it.

There def is a fear factor when teams play Cross and it's only getting worse the longer their dominance continues, whether or not they can produce players of the same quality as the Mac's and Oisin is open for debate but the more they keep winning at Minor and U21 the less chance the rest of us have. Unfortunatly BC1 is correct i can't see anyone breaking their dominance any time soon.

Topgun has a point too that the likes of Lurgan and Armagh teams have too many distractions (soccer, rugby, a pub every second door in the town, women and rioting/hooding). If you live in south Armagh and you want to be involved in sport and you don't want to shame your family you play GAA it's that simple
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on July 24, 2007, 01:30:37 PM
IMO on their day the Harps, with right mental attitude and game plan could give cross a run for it, remember they shot 18 wides against cross in the championship this year, winning is a habit just like losing, if someone can break their hold on the championship once, these boys dont remember the last time they lost a county championship match, most of them have been on winning panels for the last 12 years , someone just has to plant the seed of doubt, a tough task i no, but on any given sunday, anything can happen in the championship, all those who put their houses on armagh against will no that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 24, 2007, 01:40:37 PM
Gregory and owen loughran only came out to tullysaran for a while at under 16 but it was only for a brief period of a month or so... not sure why or what the circumstances were with that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bud on July 24, 2007, 01:54:39 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 23, 2007, 02:40:36 PM
Thats not what they think round Camlough, they reckon there the main challengers to Cross.

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Some how i can't think that they are serious challengers to cross, in saying that they are probably about as serious a challenge as dromintee will be ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 24, 2007, 02:08:16 PM

depends what constitutes a serious challenge
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on July 24, 2007, 02:20:02 PM
goin toe to toe for 55 mins then cross make the score look good
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on July 24, 2007, 04:04:51 PM
madden minors had a good win over shane oneills last night in madden. where a point behind at half time and came out strong in the second half.

next round of the championship is an open draw, anyone know when it is taking place?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 24, 2007, 10:40:24 PM
tintin: the bridge are doing ok. we had a good lad played u21 for county last year but we seem to have lost him along the way this year. like he was top scorer last year but i'am sure he will be back. he,s a good lad and we are missing him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 24, 2007, 10:45:20 PM
would you not agree pints
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 24, 2007, 10:48:57 PM
Agree we're going grand.
Can't agree with the rest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 24, 2007, 11:02:57 PM
pints you and charlie have a right ding-dong going on with each other over mr. conlon!

maybe we should try and get him down to cruppen as he is sniffing round these neck of the woods! haha
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Datsun Donaghy on July 25, 2007, 12:04:27 AM
Quotewas the harps return only 3 points benny?Huh the cross factor must have made them cream themselves..
.
QuoteTo be fair at the start of the year very little was expected of them.

And therein lies your problem and also your solution!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 25, 2007, 08:27:53 AM
does nobody know when the draw for the minors is made then??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 25, 2007, 09:08:43 AM
Are Cullyhanna still in the minor championship?  Couple of Cross wans reckoned that the Cully's would be hard to talk to?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on July 25, 2007, 10:35:33 AM
Just been informed our match with Cruppen is off tonight, not sure as to why
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 25, 2007, 11:16:47 AM
Cruppen must be some games behind now.
Diesel will confirm, but was there a period of 5/6 weeks when Cruppen didnt have any games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on July 25, 2007, 11:36:04 AM
Most recent league table I saw had them on 8 games which is one more than Granemore.  Strange when you think Killeavy have played 13

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: upthecrups on July 25, 2007, 11:54:08 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on July 25, 2007, 10:35:33 AM
Just been informed our match with Cruppen is off tonight, not sure as to why

Just been speaking to our chairman - the match is still on as far as we are concerned.
What would be the reason for it being off.
Yes we are away behind in games due to various reasons.
It is a situation we would rather not be in.
Before the kileavy game we had played once in 5 weeks which is a disaster!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on July 25, 2007, 12:15:35 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on July 24, 2007, 01:40:37 PM
Gregory and owen loughran only came out to tullysaran for a while at under 16 but it was only for a brief period of a month or so... not sure why or what the circumstances were with that.

I don't think your right here hank, Owen might have been out to the Saran but def not Gregory he's been with Ogs since U-14 played in the all-ireland feile final with him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 25, 2007, 12:55:37 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 24, 2007, 01:22:52 PM
I always was under the impression that when the Mac's and Oisin and the rest of their clan retired that other clubs in Armagh would have a fantastic chance of de-throning them. But in the name of F**k where do Cross get these teams from and more importanly what can the rest of us do about it.

There def is a fear factor when teams play Cross and it's only getting worse the longer their dominance continues, whether or not they can produce players of the same quality as the Mac's and Oisin is open for debate but the more they keep winning at Minor and U21 the less chance the rest of us have. Unfortunatly BC1 is correct i can't see anyone breaking their dominance any time soon.

Topgun has a point too that the likes of Lurgan and Armagh teams have too many distractions (soccer, rugby, a pub every second door in the town, women and rioting/hooding). If you live in south Armagh and you want to be involved in sport and you don't want to shame your family you play GAA it's that simple

another factor certainly around lurgan is that IMO there is an overload of clubs i.e within a 5 min drive of lurgan town centre you have st peters, clann eireann, clan an gael, st pauls, eire og with wolf tones slightly outside the town.  im not saying this is bad thing as it means alot of people will get playing alot more football but from a competitive point of view if you had an all lurgan team made up of 15 from say st peters clan eireann clan na gael st pauls and eire og it would certainly rival cross.

i no this will never happen with all the politics between th clubs in lurgan but if it did happen it would definitely be a strong team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 25, 2007, 01:20:51 PM
THERE IS NO DOUBTING MOONCATIII THAT IF THAT HAPPENED CROSS WOULD NOT BE GOING FOR 10 IN A ROW (OR 11, OR 12, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY IT IS ALL I DO KNOW IS ITS TOO MANY). THEN YOU HAVE THE PROBLEM OF KEEPING EVERYONE HAPPY, THERE IS SARSFIELDS, WOLF TONES, EIRE OG, CLAN NA GEAL, ST PAULS, CLANN EIREANN, ST PETERS ALL THESE TEAMS COME FROM LURGAN AND THERE ABOUTS. WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE IN LURGAN WHO PLAY FOR ST MARYS (AGHAGALLON) AND ST MICHAELS (MAGHERALIN) ANTRIM AND DOWN CLUBS RESPECTIVELY.

NOW YOU DO THE MATHS, ADD UP ALL THE TEAMS INCLUDING SUBS AND X2 AND YOU HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM. IT JUST WOULD NOT WORK!!!!

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS EVER ANY POACHING GOING ON IN SOUTH ARMAGH LIKE GOING TO SCHOOLS AND TAKING THE BEST TALENT TO YOUR CLUB WHEN THEY ARE CUBS ARE TRANSFERING OLDER MORE ESTABLISHED PLAYERS TO YOUR CLUB TO MAKE THEM STRONGER BUT IT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN LURGAN.

WHAT ABOUT "LURGAN GAEL'S" ALL IRELAND CHAMPIONS :D :D 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 ETC ETC ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on July 25, 2007, 01:25:23 PM
i think it could be time for the county board to seriously think of new league systems, try and improve the quality of club football overal in armagh, maybe an investigation into the kerry setup were u have a senior championship that is competed for on a club and divisonal basis, may be the way forward
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 25, 2007, 01:45:03 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 25, 2007, 01:20:51 PM
THERE IS NO DOUBTING MOONCATIII THAT IF THAT HAPPENED CROSS WOULD NOT BE GOING FOR 10 IN A ROW (OR 11, OR 12, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY IT IS ALL I DO KNOW IS ITS TOO MANY). THEN YOU HAVE THE PROBLEM OF KEEPING EVERYONE HAPPY, THERE IS SARSFIELDS, WOLF TONES, EIRE OG, CLAN NA GEAL, ST PAULS, CLANN EIREANN, ST PETERS ALL THESE TEAMS COME FROM LURGAN AND THERE ABOUTS. WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE IN LURGAN WHO PLAY FOR ST MARYS (AGHAGALLON) AND ST MICHAELS (MAGHERALIN) ANTRIM AND DOWN CLUBS RESPECTIVELY.

NOW YOU DO THE MATHS, ADD UP ALL THE TEAMS INCLUDING SUBS AND X2 AND YOU HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM. IT JUST WOULD NOT WORK!!!!

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS EVER ANY POACHING GOING ON IN SOUTH ARMAGH LIKE GOING TO SCHOOLS AND TAKING THE BEST TALENT TO YOUR CLUB WHEN THEY ARE CUBS ARE TRANSFERING OLDER MORE ESTABLISHED PLAYERS TO YOUR CLUB TO MAKE THEM STRONGER BUT IT DOES NOT HAPPEN IN LURGAN.

WHAT ABOUT "LURGAN GAEL'S" ALL IRELAND CHAMPIONS :D :D 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 ETC ETC ;)

i no it would never work now with all the politics but doubt if there is a town in the country that has as many teams playing out of it as lurgan has. 

i realise this will never happen but if u had say two r three teams out of the 7 armagh teams u r still looking at a very strong side,  i would like to see the team if some1 actually got the time and sat down and selcted a team from say st peters clan eireann clan na gael st pauls eire og an wolft tones!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 25, 2007, 02:03:30 PM
I reckon Cross would still beat them....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 25, 2007, 02:27:44 PM
im not sayin they wouldn't beat them but if this was the way the teams had been cross would most definitely not have won 11 championships in a row! 

but my point is even with all the distractions of soccer and drink etc etc around lurgan there is alot of very talented footballers who if they all played on the same team would be a match for any team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 25, 2007, 02:37:56 PM
Quote from: mooncatiii on July 25, 2007, 02:27:44 PM
im not sayin they wouldn't beat them but if this was the way the teams had been cross would most definitely not have won 11 championships in a row! 

but my point is even with all the distractions of soccer and drink etc etc around lurgan there is alot of very talented footballers who if they all played on the same team would be a match for any team

Good point ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on July 25, 2007, 03:03:01 PM
Sure within a 10 minute drive of Cross' centre you have Culloville, Silverbridge and Naomh Malachi, can Cross draw on players from these when playing the Lurgan superteam? Mind you Pints would not approve!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 25, 2007, 04:11:27 PM
sure why not just create 3 teams, north, mid and south.   plenty of people competing for places there.    ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 25, 2007, 04:26:22 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 25, 2007, 04:11:27 PM
sure why not just create 3 teams, north, mid and south.   plenty of people competing for places there.    ;)

Why not put all 3 together and call them Armagh ;) :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on July 25, 2007, 04:35:36 PM
QuoteSure within a 10 minute drive of Cross' centre you have Culloville, Silverbridge and Naomh Malachi, can Cross draw on players from these when playing the Lurgan superteam?
No Cross wouldnt agree, shur they wont want to be tapping into neighbouring clubs looking players... would they? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 25, 2007, 05:02:35 PM
QuoteNo Cross wouldnt agree, shur they wont want to be tapping into neighbouring clubs looking players... would they?

It is a fantastic network system that we have developed to spy on all the talent coming through the local primary schools.  Instead of our senior players sitting and whinging about things they head off to the local primary school and coach the young players during the week.  What this does is that it encourages the young kids subliminally to want to be like Aaron Kernan or Oisin McConville.  It also means that we can clock the young ones at an early age and start putting mind controllingpotions in their Ribena at lunch time to make them want to play for Cross.

Then when we have them in our grasp we full the full of weird beliefs that would not be out of place in Waco, things like they are good footballers and they can be the best in the county some day if they listen to our mantras enough. 

Then when they are good enough they can join the inner circle of the sect, this normally is only seen in public on match days.  Unfortunately some of the young ones are not good enough to get into this circle so rather than letting other teams get them , we cook them on an open fire and eat them, unless they are being fed to Francie and JD who eat them alive.

Once we have completely indoctrinated them they learn the chant "champions, champions, champions" but that is only after years of work that this can happen.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 25, 2007, 05:51:21 PM
BC
QuoteIt is a fantastic network system that we have developed to spy on all the talent coming through the local primary schools.
I thought it was the underage county development squads that are your system.
What would any of yous think about a small club working hard with their young and when some of them make these underage development squads they are targetted by the much larger neighbouring club who use their "big names" to try and coax them away?

And bc will be on here in a few years with the line "they've played with us from underage..."

Topgun
Quotei think it could be time for the county board to seriously think of new league systems, try and improve the quality of club football overal in armagh, maybe an investigation into the kerry setup were u have a senior championship that is competed for on a club and divisonal basis, may be the way forward
The county board to think seriously about a new league system?  Are you serious? They can hardly manage to gather the weekends results together.
Most of the teams in division one go out at the start of year with the aim to avoid relegation, I'm not sure how you'd change that.  The championship set up is a bit of joke, teams in intermediate that shouldn't be, teams in senior that shouldn't be and so on. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 25, 2007, 06:38:12 PM
diesel there is not a club in armagh that wouldn,t take c c . but thankfully he,s only 21 and will see out the present management by quite a few years. what i don,t understand is he played the previous year with no problems.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on July 25, 2007, 10:47:45 PM
Cross musnt want him, or was that not true when he stated his desiire to join the rangers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on July 25, 2007, 10:59:13 PM
bridge beat ogs in B league tonite by 3 points

any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on July 25, 2007, 11:24:06 PM
as far as i am aware madden beat dromintee by 4.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 26, 2007, 07:20:33 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 25, 2007, 03:03:01 PM
Sure within a 10 minute drive of Cross' centre you have Culloville, Silverbridge and Naomh Malachi, can Cross draw on players from these when playing the Lurgan superteam? Mind you Pints would not approve!

no mate u missed th point the 5 teams i mentioned r based in Lurgan town not like the situation u mentioned with cross!  i am not saying this should happen my point was just that a team based on lurgan based players would have been a match for cross over the years, but of course u spud picking farmers from south armagh cant understand that, im not that surprised really  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 26, 2007, 07:58:36 AM
Eire Og is Craigavon, Wolftones is Derrymacash & Sarsfields are Derrytrasna so you're wrong!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 26, 2007, 08:34:43 AM
Clans beat Mullaghbawn by 3-09 to 0-02
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: upthecrups on July 26, 2007, 09:16:42 AM
Annaghmore failed to show against Cruppen last night with both the referee and Cruppen in attendance. ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 26, 2007, 09:24:20 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 26, 2007, 08:34:43 AM
Clans beat Mullaghbawn by 3-09 to 0-02

:o :o :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 26, 2007, 10:06:35 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 26, 2007, 09:24:20 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 26, 2007, 08:34:43 AM
Clans beat Mullaghbawn by 3-09 to 0-02

:o :o :o

Goats whats so shocking about that. I know you beat us last week "big deal" but that was a freak of nature, we would beat you's 4 times out of 5. You just got us on a bad night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 26, 2007, 10:11:34 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 25, 2007, 05:02:35 PM
Instead of our senior players sitting and whinging about things they head off to the local primary school and coach the young players during the week. 

Surely this happens in every club?

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 25, 2007, 05:02:35 PM
we cook them on an open fire and eat them, unless they are being fed to Francie and JD who eat them alive.

They used to hve he same practice in cullyhanna until JD left them in search of glory....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 26, 2007, 10:29:20 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 26, 2007, 07:58:36 AM
Eire Og is Craigavon, Wolftones is Derrymacash & Sarsfields are Derrytrasna so you're wrong!

no im not worng it was other people who mentioned sarsfields etc!  i was not argueing any point i was simply saying there was an over load of teams in that area which is an undenialbe fact!  within a mile radius say of the Clans there is 5 clubs, i included eire og as they r in very close proximity of lurgan! 

but im sure ul find a technicality in what i have said and try and make an argument out of it  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 26, 2007, 10:33:10 AM
It's a stupid point moonman.
Because Cross are so dominant, you want the Lurgan clubs to join up to give them a game ::)
What about when Clans had their success in the 80's? Maybe South Armagh clubs should have joined up to give them a game?
Fcuk, I cant wait to the holidays are over ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 10:57:52 AM
Quote from: Uladh on July 24, 2007, 12:00:22 PM
That is some beating. i'm assuming harps minors are probably of a decent standard too. are tullysarran the only realistic competition for cross for the minor championship?

I think cruppen beat cross at some stage this year...
cullyhanna are very strong at minors too
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 26, 2007, 11:00:59 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 26, 2007, 10:06:35 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 26, 2007, 09:24:20 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 26, 2007, 08:34:43 AM
Clans beat Mullaghbawn by 3-09 to 0-02

:o :o :o

Goats whats so shocking about that. I know you beat us last week "big deal" but that was a freak of nature, we would beat you's 4 times out of 5. You just got us on a bad night.

Settle youself!!!!

Maghery beat Ballyhegan by 6/7 points last night I'm told in the B C'ship semi.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 11:10:08 AM
any results from last nights fixtures?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 26, 2007, 12:43:37 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 10:57:52 AM
Quote from: Uladh on July 24, 2007, 12:00:22 PM
That is some beating. i'm assuming harps minors are probably of a decent standard too. are tullysarran the only realistic competition for cross for the minor championship?

I think cruppen beat cross at some stage this year...
cullyhanna are very strong at minors too
I've noticed you commenting a few times on Cruppen, I take it you're from there, even though you wouldn't tell us.
And to think when you joined the board you were slagging of the bridge for being an intermediate side  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: upthecrups on July 26, 2007, 01:12:44 PM
Quote from POG
"I've noticed you commenting a few times on Cruppen, I take it you're from there, even though you wouldn't tell us.
And to think when you joined the board you were slagging of the bridge for being an intermediate side  :D"

Don't know who QUB is but surely the bridge are an intermediate side because they participate in the intermediate championship.
Cruppen are competing in the Senior championship therefore they'd be classed as a senior side.
Don't know - maybe i'm biased :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 26, 2007, 01:16:38 PM
Quote from: full back on July 26, 2007, 10:33:10 AM
It's a stupid point moonman.
Because Cross are so dominant, you want the Lurgan clubs to join up to give them a game ::)
What about when Clans had their success in the 80's? Maybe South Armagh clubs should have joined up to give them a game?
Fcuk, I cant wait to the holidays are over ;)

f**k up, i was not sayin anything against the successes of cross , the talk was about how come cross produce so many talented players, what i said was "lurgan" not north aramgh but LURGAN have produced alot of quality players but have been split over 4r5 teams that r so close to each other! i never mentioned creating a team combined of all of them!  so quit tryin to make an argument out of nothin u dick and get back to the field and pick a few spuds
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 26, 2007, 01:25:21 PM
Quote from mooncati

"another factor certainly around lurgan is that IMO there is an overload of clubs i.e within a 5 min drive of lurgan town centre you have st peters, clann eireann, clan an gael, st pauls, eire og with wolf tones slightly outside the town.  im not saying this is bad thing as it means alot of people will get playing alot more football but from a competitive point of view if you had an all lurgan team made up of 15 from say st peters clan eireann clan na gael st pauls and eire og it would certainly rival cross.

i no this will never happen with all the politics between th clubs in lurgan but if it did happen it would definitely be a strong team"

I think you're sort of suggesting it here mooncatiii
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 26, 2007, 01:34:28 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 26, 2007, 01:25:21 PM
Quote from mooncati

"another factor certainly around lurgan is that IMO there is an overload of clubs i.e within a 5 min drive of lurgan town centre you have st peters, clann eireann, clan an gael, st pauls, eire og with wolf tones slightly outside the town.  im not saying this is bad thing as it means alot of people will get playing alot more football but from a competitive point of view if you had an all lurgan team made up of 15 from say st peters clan eireann clan na gael st pauls and eire og it would certainly rival cross.

i no this will never happen with all the politics between th clubs in lurgan but if it did happen it would definitely be a strong team"

I think you're sort of suggesting it here mooncatiii

no im sayin if it was the case it would rival cross but i am in no way suggesting it should happen!  what i was sayin was that there was an overload of clubs around lurgan!  but maybe that is too much for u take in, jeesus u lads must have an IQ the same as your shoe size! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 26, 2007, 01:34:34 PM
Moon being a Clans man i think your pissing against the wind here my friend and by the sounds of things your to easy wound up. I know what your saying and its true but thats the way it is.

every dog has it's day, we had our's in the 70's and 80's. Remember clans won 3 Ulster's in a row. and now Cross are dominating (10 fold of what we achieved), there will come a time when the power will shift to somone else and then again and again. Just deal with it ;)

What club do you represent?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 26, 2007, 01:37:25 PM
Quote from: mooncatiii on July 26, 2007, 01:16:38 PM
Quote from: full back on July 26, 2007, 10:33:10 AM
It's a stupid point moonman.
Because Cross are so dominant, you want the Lurgan clubs to join up to give them a game ::)
What about when Clans had their success in the 80's? Maybe South Armagh clubs should have joined up to give them a game?
Fcuk, I cant wait to the holidays are over ;)

f**k up, i was not sayin anything against the successes of cross , the talk was about how come cross produce so many talented players, what i said was "lurgan" not north aramgh but LURGAN have produced alot of quality players but have been split over 4r5 teams that r so close to each other! i never mentioned creating a team combined of all of them!  so quit tryin to make an argument out of nothin u dick and get back to the field and pick a few spuds

No off course you didnt mention it ::)

"if you had an all lurgan team made up of 15 from say st peters clan eireann clan na gael st pauls and eire og it would certainly rival cross"

"realise this will never happen but if u had say two r three teams out of the 7 armagh teams u r still looking at a very strong side"

"but my point is even with all the distractions of soccer and drink etc etc around lurgan there is alot of very talented footballers who if they all played on the same team would be a match for any team"

" i am not saying this should happen my point was just that a team based on lurgan based players would have been a match for cross over the years"

What a f**king moron
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 26, 2007, 01:59:17 PM
Quote from: full back on July 26, 2007, 01:37:25 PM
Quote from: mooncatiii on July 26, 2007, 01:16:38 PM
Quote from: full back on July 26, 2007, 10:33:10 AM
It's a stupid point moonman.
Because Cross are so dominant, you want the Lurgan clubs to join up to give them a game ::)
What about when Clans had their success in the 80's? Maybe South Armagh clubs should have joined up to give them a game?
Fcuk, I cant wait to the holidays are over ;)

f**k up, i was not sayin anything against the successes of cross , the talk was about how come cross produce so many talented players, what i said was "lurgan" not north aramgh but LURGAN have produced alot of quality players but have been split over 4r5 teams that r so close to each other! i never mentioned creating a team combined of all of them!  so quit tryin to make an argument out of nothin u dick and get back to the field and pick a few spuds

No off course you didnt mention it ::)

"if you had an all lurgan team made up of 15 from say st peters clan eireann clan na gael st pauls and eire og it would certainly rival cross"

"realise this will never happen but if u had say two r three teams out of the 7 armagh teams u r still looking at a very strong side"

"but my point is even with all the distractions of soccer and drink etc etc around lurgan there is alot of very talented footballers who if they all played on the same team would be a match for any team"

" i am not saying this should happen my point was just that a team based on lurgan based players would have been a match for cross over the years"

What a f**king moron

Ur the fuckin moron u cant seem to comprehend that i am talkin about the overload of clubs around Lurgan!  i never said that 1 club should be formed my point was simply that alot of taltented players come from the area and if was not for the many clubs then a few more honours may have come the towns way!  as i said there is obviously a definite connection with your shoe size and your IQ if u cannot understand!   

and to illdecide im from eire og, 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Loup Bandit on July 26, 2007, 02:03:52 PM
I think what Mooncat is highlighting is that there a lot of clubs in a close geographical catchment area, therefore dispersing the talent across more clubs.

On the other side of the coin, if Culloville, silverbridge and naomh malachi's were located slightly closer to Cross, then Cross may have lost out on a few players on the periphery of their parish.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 26, 2007, 02:31:28 PM
Quote from: Loup Bandit on July 26, 2007, 02:03:52 PM
I think what Mooncat is highlighting is that there a lot of clubs in a close geographical catchment area, therefore dispersing the talent across more clubs.

On the other side of the coin, if Culloville, silverbridge and naomh malachi's were located slightly closer to Cross, then Cross may have lost out on a few players on the periphery of their parish.

at last someone with a brain,  ;D  exactly what ive been tryin to get through to the rest here
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 26, 2007, 02:32:31 PM
Well why the fcuk didnt you say it then - you should be studying for them repeats anyway ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 02:33:44 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 26, 2007, 12:43:37 PM
I've noticed you commenting a few times on Cruppen, I take it you're from there, even though you wouldn't tell us.
And to think when you joined the board you were slagging of the bridge for being an intermediate side  :D

all i said was silverbridge are an intermediate club and will remain an intermediate club until they win the intermediate championship. going on championship performances in the last couple of years this may be a long way away....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Loup Bandit on July 26, 2007, 02:40:20 PM
Quote from: mooncatiii on July 26, 2007, 02:31:28 PM
Quote from: Loup Bandit on July 26, 2007, 02:03:52 PM
I think what Mooncat is highlighting is that there a lot of clubs in a close geographical catchment area, therefore dispersing the talent across more clubs.

On the other side of the coin, if Culloville, silverbridge and naomh malachi's were located slightly closer to Cross, then Cross may have lost out on a few players on the periphery of their parish.

at last someone with a brain,  ;D  exactly what ive been tryin to get through to the rest here

No problem buddy!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 26, 2007, 02:41:29 PM
Quote from: full back on July 26, 2007, 02:32:31 PM
Well why the fcuk didnt you say it then - you should be studying for them repeats anyway ;)

i didn say it u misunderstood it which is hardly surprising,  and im long since left uni perched up behind desk with my air con blowing here! maybe u shud be getting ready to go sign on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 26, 2007, 02:48:26 PM
Quote from: mooncatiii on July 26, 2007, 02:41:29 PM
Quote from: full back on July 26, 2007, 02:32:31 PM
Well why the fcuk didnt you say it then - you should be studying for them repeats anyway ;)

i didn say it u misunderstood it which is hardly surprising,  and im long since left uni perched up behind desk with my air con blowing here! maybe u shud be getting ready to go sign on

Air con!!! No way

Yawn
You are boring me now moonman
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 26, 2007, 02:48:41 PM
Any ideas on who would start though if there was  lurgan Superclub?

Not trying to piss on your bonfire here mooncat don't worry I see the point you're making even though the culchies cant!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 02:55:22 PM
here nail. u would def be goalkeeper, your physical presense in the goalmouth would be an asset to manys a team. although u would face stiff competition from a certain fella from derrymacash. best u12 goalkeeper never to play for the county is what ive been told....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 26, 2007, 02:56:08 PM
Quote from: full back on July 26, 2007, 02:48:26 PM
Quote from: mooncatiii on July 26, 2007, 02:41:29 PM
Quote from: full back on July 26, 2007, 02:32:31 PM
Well why the fcuk didnt you say it then - you should be studying for them repeats anyway ;)

i didn say it u misunderstood it which is hardly surprising,  and im long since left uni perched up behind desk with my air con blowing here! maybe u shud be getting ready to go sign on

Air con!!! No way

Yawn
You are boring me now moonman

boring u wouldn be hard mate, you see thats what hapens the mentally challenged, they get bored easily!  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 26, 2007, 02:59:46 PM
So thats me in goals, bringin back memories of Sunnyside here! Pick te ohter 14 then!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 03:02:29 PM
ah its tough lak, big ivan lav would be in the hunt for a starting berth along side marsden, o'hagan and tommy stevenson...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 26, 2007, 03:43:42 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 03:02:29 PM
ah its tough lak, big ivan lav would be in the hunt for a starting berth along side marsden, o'hagan and tommy stevenson...

Tommy stevenson is rank, he wouldn't get his place on the clans team. All he has is fitness, there's more skill in a bucket of chips.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 26, 2007, 03:55:09 PM
and is Ivan Lavery not from Antrim? and plays in the antrim league?

Loney... no chance! are you one of these post men on strike then? get of yer hole
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 04:36:09 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on July 26, 2007, 03:55:09 PM
and is Ivan Lavery not from Antrim? and plays in the antrim league?

Loney... no chance! are you one of these post men on strike then? get of yer hole

aye but he hails from the lurgan area does he not?

p.s. its hard for loney to get off his hole, it still touches the ground when he stands up sure  :D   :D  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 04:37:36 PM
would the o'hagan family be running this "super" club aswell?? cos that would certainly put a proverbial spanner in the works..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on July 26, 2007, 05:15:12 PM
I personally think that this is a load of balls! Your basically saying that if all the clubs in lurgan ( a big catholic majority) would join up, they would beat cross. Is that something to be proud of or something? Tir na nog recruit their players from ONE ROAD and still manage to put you's out of the championship whilst "drinking etc" and having poor attitudes. Says alot for the clan na gael club then. In my opinion, within 3 years the clans team will be extinct, just like armaghs senior team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 26, 2007, 05:17:18 PM
they're back!  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 05:18:21 PM
Quote from: pdown79 on July 26, 2007, 05:15:12 PM
I personally think that this is a load of balls! Your basically saying that if all the clubs in lurgan ( a big catholic majority) would join up, they would beat cross. Is that something to be proud of or something? Tir na nog recruit their players from ONE ROAD and still manage to put you's out of the championship whilst "drinking etc" and having poor attitudes. Says alot for the clan na gael club then. In my opinion, within 3 years the clans team will be extinct, just like armaghs senior team.

:D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CelticWater on July 26, 2007, 06:28:01 PM
Intermediate Semi Final

Friday 26th July 2007

Culloville v Wolfe Tones in MULLABRACK at 7.30pm

The Venue has been changed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 06:34:18 PM
Quote from: CelticWater on July 26, 2007, 06:28:01 PM
Intermediate Semi Final

Friday 26th July 2007

Culloville v Wolfe Tones in MULLABRACK at 7.30pm

The Venue has been changed

will it matter??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CelticWater on July 26, 2007, 06:37:56 PM
Nope still expect Culloville to win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 06:51:31 PM
the other semi final should be a tighter game. will be interesting to see if mckeever wil STAMP his authority on the game  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CelticWater on July 26, 2007, 06:55:02 PM
Ah McKeever is gonna get the runaround some of these games but he still has done a good job for Armagh and is a big lad id like to see Barry Og McKeown or Cathal McSherry on him in the semi that would be interesting!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 06:59:38 PM
Quote from: CelticWater on July 26, 2007, 06:55:02 PM
Ah McKeever is gonna get the runaround some of these games but he still has done a good job for Armagh and is a big lad id like to see Barry Og McKeown or Cathal McSherry on him in the semi that would be interesting!

just so he could bate lumps outta them.... cathal will probably be hurt before anyone gets near him anyway. there'll be some yelps outta him, as usual!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 26, 2007, 08:00:50 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 02:33:44 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 26, 2007, 12:43:37 PM
I've noticed you commenting a few times on Cruppen, I take it you're from there, even though you wouldn't tell us.
And to think when you joined the board you were slagging of the bridge for being an intermediate side  :D

all i said was silverbridge are an intermediate club and will remain an intermediate club until they win the intermediate championship. going on championship performances in the last couple of years this may be a long way away....

Actually it was "it must be tough bein an intermediate side"  :D 
It's funny a Cruppen man can feel so high and mighty that he can make such a comment about the bridge...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 08:17:21 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 26, 2007, 08:00:50 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 26, 2007, 02:33:44 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 26, 2007, 12:43:37 PM
I've noticed you commenting a few times on Cruppen, I take it you're from there, even though you wouldn't tell us.
And to think when you joined the board you were slagging of the bridge for being an intermediate side  :D

all i said was silverbridge are an intermediate club and will remain an intermediate club until they win the intermediate championship. going on championship performances in the last couple of years this may be a long way away....

Actually it was "it must be tough bein an intermediate side"  :D 
It's funny a Cruppen man can feel so high and mighty that he can make such a comment about the bridge...

well saying as we are a senior club....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 27, 2007, 07:13:47 AM
Quote from: pdown79 on July 26, 2007, 05:15:12 PM
I personally think that this is a load of balls! Your basically saying that if all the clubs in lurgan ( a big catholic majority) would join up, they would beat cross. Is that something to be proud of or something? Tir na nog recruit their players from ONE ROAD and still manage to put you's out of the championship whilst "drinking etc" and having poor attitudes. Says alot for the clan na gael club then. In my opinion, within 3 years the clans team will be extinct, just like armaghs senior team.

missed th point mate its not about beatin cross, the point was about an overload of clubs in 1 area!  im not a clans man but u say u knocked them out of the championship and u get ur players from 1 road, ur catchment area is alot bigger than any of the lurgan clubs you have at least 6 r 7 big estates (i.e ballyoran, garvaghy churchill, the beaches, rose cottages etc etc) not mention the surroundings so dont come on crying about only having one road to pick from, sure dont clans only get their players from the shankill estate which is not near the same size as your catchment area
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on July 27, 2007, 08:41:44 AM
Is anybody else bored with this North Armagh tittle tattle? Do you guys not know that YOU will never win the argument!!!! The other guy will just keep arguing back no matter what rational point you bring up!!! YOU CANNOT WIN!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 27, 2007, 09:03:21 AM
Quote from: Scarface on July 27, 2007, 08:41:44 AM
Is anybody else bored with this North Armagh tittle tattle? Do you guys not know that YOU will never win the argument!!!! The other guy will just keep arguing back no matter what rational point you bring up!!! YOU CANNOT WIN!!!!!

Scarface exactly my point yesterday, it's a stupid matter and should not be discussed anymore.

By the way, i would like to take this opportunity to welcome back someone from Portydown. after all this time and their 3pts on the league table ;) we finaly get a post from one of them (mind you, not a very inteligent one at that)

By the way i think the 2 intermediate semi's will be 2 cracker games and i expect Culloville and St Pats to come thru those 2 games, come to think of it i expect both teams to have 3-4 points to spare.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 27, 2007, 09:35:50 AM
can any1 tell me where and what time the 2 championship semis are at tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 27, 2007, 10:32:36 AM
Quote from: mooncatiii on July 27, 2007, 09:35:50 AM
can any1 tell me where and what time the 2 championship semis are at tonight?

If u go back about 5 r 6 pages the fixtures are on the board and the times
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 27, 2007, 10:48:40 AM
u heading mooncat?the tones camp dont expect 2 win this game atal.neither to i 2 b honest,big aidan mcgeown has returned to te panel should provide good experience and a genuine goal threat if played.we where expected to win the intermediate for 2 or 3 years and fucked up against the like of madden and the nab,how ironic if we got to the final this evening.could any1 give me directions to the field i mind playing at it in minors and watching my old school play a mclarnon semi,mind it difficult to find.ill be heading throug hthe moy and into the city
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 27, 2007, 10:51:07 AM
other semi should be very interesting.whitecross establishing themselves as a good 1st division team with a great team ethic against cullyhanna who have done superbly after last years disasterous campaign.whitecross you woiuld feel would emerge being a division above, however cullyhanna with their 3 county men and great form will be hard to stop.could go 2 second game imo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 27, 2007, 10:53:42 AM
aye think i mite head up to it, if i find out where to go, my last trip up to that place for the maclarnon match i ended up in farm yards and all sorts tryin to find it!  aye was speakin to a few of the tones 1s they've nothin to lose so could prove to work in there favour!  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 27, 2007, 11:06:18 AM
maybe see you up there mooncat then!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 27, 2007, 11:10:30 AM

Don't think McKeever is fit to pay in that semi tonight.

by the way, i think the fixtures posted on this thread had both semis on sunday evening at a similar time, which is wrong obviously.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 27, 2007, 12:25:02 PM
Culloville v Wolfe Tones tonight in Abbey at 7.30

Whitecross v Cullys Sunday at 7pm in 'Nab
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 27, 2007, 12:37:28 PM
benny, someone had posted that the game tonight has been moved, and instead of being played at the home of the Harps, it is being played at the home of the Harps B team  ;)

Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 27, 2007, 12:45:08 PM
why do the m clowns on the county board continually change venues for games.the tones game was down for abbey park now i think that it is in mullabrack and the whitecross game was down for cross now it in the nab >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 27, 2007, 12:56:16 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 27, 2007, 12:37:28 PM
benny, someone had posted that the game tonight has been moved, and instead of being played at the home of the Harps, it is being played at the home of the Harps B team  ;)

Can anyone confirm?

I dont know if there's something wrong in Abbey, but we had a B game on Mullabrack's pitch Wed night and it wasn't in great shape, there's no way on this earth that it's in better condition than Abbey, I'll find out for defo at lunchtime.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on July 27, 2007, 01:00:41 PM
What happened out at Pearses. I heard the changing rooms were attacked and damaged. Whats the story?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 27, 2007, 01:01:29 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 27, 2007, 12:25:02 PM
Culloville v Wolfe Tones tonight in Abbey at 7.30

Whitecross v Cullys Sunday at 7pm in 'Nab

culloville tones game definitel in mullabrack was tlkn to a tones player las nite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 27, 2007, 01:45:13 PM
Quote from: SouthArmaghBandit on July 27, 2007, 01:00:41 PM
What happened out at Pearses. I heard the changing rooms were attacked and damaged. Whats the story?

I think the Ceannaras had windows broken.  there was no damage to our changing rooms
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 27, 2007, 02:02:13 PM
Tonight's game is not in Abbey, I was told it's in Ballymacnab.  The players should hope it's not in Mullabrack!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 27, 2007, 02:06:31 PM
What was wrong with Abbey Pk in first place?
Does that mean both games are in 'Nab, as well as the Junior final on Sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 27, 2007, 02:57:28 PM
duno all i no is that unless its been changed again the tones players was told the game was in mullabrack!  dnt see what the problem was with abbey park
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on July 27, 2007, 03:25:34 PM
Quote from: mooncatiii on July 27, 2007, 02:57:28 PM
duno all i no is that unless its been changed again the tones players was told the game was in mullabrack!  dnt see what the problem was with abbey park

Is both  championship matches on tonight, i thought the whitecross v's cullyhanna game was sunday

Cross will win the senior championship by the looks of things even if the next round is not until around the 19th aug, anyone know why that is????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 27, 2007, 03:51:02 PM
Any chance the Tones could cause an upset tonight?
I believe the Blues are missing a few players
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CelticWater on July 27, 2007, 03:53:38 PM
Who are Culloville missing? I still expect them to come through to be honest!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on July 27, 2007, 04:09:38 PM
Abbey Park belongs to the Harps, and the Harps need the pitch, simple as that, it would be nice if the county board would contact clubs first before allocating games to different grounds. BTW Abbey Park is like carpet at the min, played in the brack on wed night and its not good at all very soft at the clubhouse end of the field
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 27, 2007, 04:16:49 PM
y do they need the field topgun
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on July 27, 2007, 04:32:03 PM
The Harps Seniors ar training i presume and with only having one field they have no where else to go, why should the harps put their seniors off, in preference of two other clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 27, 2007, 04:33:47 PM
Quote from: topgun on July 27, 2007, 04:32:03 PM
The Harps Seniors ar training i presume and with only having one field they have no where else to go, why should the harps put their seniors off, in preference of two other clubs.

so what your saying is you dont know why the game isnt at abbey pk
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on July 27, 2007, 04:39:13 PM
i no that the seniors are training ok simmy/charlie stubbs ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on July 27, 2007, 06:43:35 PM
Abbey Park isnt available tonight because of work being carried out on it today!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 27, 2007, 09:35:47 PM

Being the clubmen that you are, surely all you boys knew that already as you were up do said "work"?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 27, 2007, 10:18:08 PM
Clann Eireann beat the bridge by a point. 
Poor enough game, both teams seemed lack luster though we were well in control and led until 4 minutes to go when they got a goal and two quick points to give them two point lead.  Time ran out on us.  Two points threw away. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Datsun Donaghy on July 28, 2007, 01:04:44 AM
QuoteAbbey Park isnt available tonight because of work being carried out on it today!!

I think Rufus has a lawnmower he could lend you but don't ask him to help as next week's match will be in doubt as well. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on July 28, 2007, 07:06:10 PM
'The Harps Seniors ar training i presume and with only having one field they have no where else to go, why should the harps put their seniors off, in preference of two other clubs.'

haha haha - like that has never happened before!!!! Would not be the first time the seniors went elsewhere while other games took place!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 28, 2007, 07:21:24 PM
Pearse Ogs beat the clans last night by two points the game was rank with loughran doing most of the scoring for the ogs and these were free kicks, which were softly awarded. The clans also got some handy frees towards the end. It won't be long lads before gaelic becomes a non contact sport.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 28, 2007, 07:31:46 PM
pints ........bring back c c
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on July 28, 2007, 07:41:34 PM
From www.orchardcounty.com

The Armagh Intermediate Football Championship semi-final game between St Patrick's and Whitecross which was due to have taken place at Crossmaglen on Sunday 29 July at 7.00pm has been switched to Dromintee due to a bereavement in the Crossmaglen club.

New details of this fixture are as follows:-

Sunday 29 July

Armagh Intermediate Football Championship Semi-final (7.00)
St Patrick's v Whitecross (Brendan Gorman) at Dromintee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 28, 2007, 08:26:33 PM
Good result last night against the Clans, esp after last weeks showing.  Nearly let the game slip, leading by five points, let the clans back into it.  Leaving it a very tense last 5 minutes, with the clans pumping everything into the square.  A wins a win though  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 28, 2007, 08:39:51 PM
has conlon transferred to a team in dundalk?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 28, 2007, 09:02:37 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on July 28, 2007, 07:31:46 PM
pints ........bring back c c
For what?  where you at the game yourself, anything to say on it because this Ciaran Conlon stuff is getting a tad boring  ::)

Quotehas conlon transferred to a team in dundalk?
dont know, don't really care.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 28, 2007, 09:10:25 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 28, 2007, 07:21:24 PM
Pearse Ogs beat the clans last night by two points the game was rank with loughran doing most of the scoring for the ogs and these were free kicks, which were softly awarded. The clans also got some handy frees towards the end. It won't be long lads before gaelic becomes a non contact sport.

has gregory Loughran ever got a decent run out for armagh? he always seems to play consistently well when i've seen him play. a good free taker too!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 28, 2007, 09:38:25 PM
He was with the county about 2 or 3 years ago.  broke his leg at xmas and kernan dropped him.  He's as strong as a bull and can play some great football.
Quote from: lurganblue on July 28, 2007, 09:10:25 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 28, 2007, 07:21:24 PM
Pearse Ogs beat the clans last night by two points the game was rank with loughran doing most of the scoring for the ogs and these were free kicks, which were softly awarded. The clans also got some handy frees towards the end. It won't be long lads before gaelic becomes a non contact sport.

has gregory Loughran ever got a decent run out for armagh? he always seems to play consistently well when i've seen him play. a good free taker too!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 29, 2007, 09:02:26 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on July 28, 2007, 09:10:25 PM
has gregory Loughran ever got a decent run out for armagh? he always seems to play consistently well when i've seen him play. a good free taker too!


you have to consider what position he plays to understand his lack of opportunities...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 29, 2007, 12:00:58 PM
QuoteHe was with the county about 2 or 3 years ago.  broke his leg at xmas and kernan dropped him.  He's as strong as a bull and can play some great football.
And people can't understand why we complain about SK getting chance after chance after chance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 29, 2007, 03:55:48 PM
The Bridge Beat St. Peters 1-16 to 1-04
We were always in control, a mistake in defence in the first half allowed them in to get a dodgy penalty decision but we always looked on top.  All our lads done well but our midfield pairing, McAvoy and McGarvey, put on an exhibition. 

Yet another poor refereeing performance.  ::)

It was broadcast on fivefm too, anyone listening in? I only overheard bits and pieces but it was a scream. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on July 29, 2007, 04:52:03 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 29, 2007, 12:00:58 PM
And people can't understand why we complain about SK getting chance after chance after chance.

Touché PoG!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 29, 2007, 05:30:27 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 29, 2007, 12:00:58 PM
QuoteHe was with the county about 2 or 3 years ago.  broke his leg at xmas and kernan dropped him.  He's as strong as a bull and can play some great football.
And people can't understand why we complain about SK getting chance after chance after chance.

Indeed.  But then again Armagh is under new management next year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on July 29, 2007, 05:36:35 PM
The new Armagh management need to make sure that everyone, including Loughran and SK, is given a chance to show what they can do. We cannot afford to miss out on talent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 29, 2007, 05:41:49 PM
any results from todays games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 29, 2007, 07:12:22 PM
cruppen beat ballymacnab 1 - 18 to 9 points. cant understand how the nab beat killeavy.. game blown up slightly early to, ref couldnt listen to any more yappin from a nab player. dunno what he was yappin at the ref for though.. not his fault they're brutal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 29, 2007, 07:17:18 PM
Nab are without doubt the worst I've seen this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 29, 2007, 07:26:05 PM
clans beat culloville 2-14 to 1-10
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 29, 2007, 07:27:07 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 29, 2007, 07:24:21 PM
To quote myself from about 8 posts ago...
QuoteThe Bridge Beat St. Peters 1-16 to 1-04
We were always in control, a mistake in defence in the first half allowed them in to get a dodgy penalty decision but we always looked on top.  All our lads done well but our midfield pairing, McAvoy and McGarvey, put on an exhibition.

Yet another poor refereeing performance.  ::)

It was broadcast on fivefm too, anyone listening in? I only overheard bits and pieces but it was a scream. 

didnt look, as u can see i rectified my mistake by swiftly removing that question
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 29, 2007, 08:13:55 PM
What was the story with Cruppen V Annaghmore, is it to be replayed or are Cruppen getting the points?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 29, 2007, 09:05:11 PM
PINTS re - cruppen v annaghmore

we wont know until the referee sends his report in!

just back from whitecross v cullyhanna game this evening with whitecross winning by 2 points with a goal coming 6 minutes into injury time! st. pats must have thought they had it won scoring a point just before that!

poor enough game from a neutral point of view thought whitecross derserved it though as they played the better football!

cullaville - whitecross final!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 29, 2007, 09:27:57 PM

Intermediate semi was a very poor game. noone really stood out though the whitecross forward line was probably a good bit more lively than cullyhanna. pats changed the game when 3 down by bringing mackin to midfield, where he won a load of ball. couldn't understand him standin inside all game and them not able to get the ball in.

McKeever got a fair runaround from the whitcross number 11, who created most of their scores.

Culloville should win it.

Also went to maghery earlier today where dromintee took the home side apart in a one sided first half to lead by nine at the break. maghery rallied rightly after half time and i think there was 5 in it at the end to dromintee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 29, 2007, 09:37:30 PM
Poor enough game I agree though I thought there was a shocking referring decision in the lead up to the third Whitecross goal. McKeever was clearly taken down but there was no free. Whitecross then went up the field and scored the winning goal. Still that's football I suppose.

To be honest we were very poor. Whitecross were well on top in the first half and it was only their bad shooting that kept them from were 4 or 5 ahead at half time. Defensively I thought St Pat's were a bit slack and it was defensive errors that cost the 2 second half goals. The second one was particularly bad. As Uladh said, didn't think anybody really stood out on either side.

Another year stuck in intermediate then. I just hope that we can re-group and go on and get promoted as a consolation. With the county lads back, St Pat's and Killeavy should go on to promoted but that's 2 defeats on the bounce now and I just hope we can bounce back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 29, 2007, 09:46:53 PM
heard killeavey had a remarkable comeback today against newtown!

newtown was winning by 15 points at half-time and the game finished a draw!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 29, 2007, 09:50:33 PM
In the name of Jesus what happened in the first half that Newtown were winning by 15 points?
That's a good result for the rest of the pack diesel. 

Uladh
Quote
Intermediate semi was a very poor game. noone really stood out though the whitecross forward line was probably a good bit more lively than cullyhanna. pats changed the game when 3 down by bringing mackin to midfield, where he won a load of ball. couldn't understand him standin inside all game and them not able to get the ball in.
That's hardly a first. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on July 29, 2007, 10:16:17 PM
Pints

As far as im aware Cruppen are getting the points

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 29, 2007, 10:22:23 PM
What happened there David, why didnt yous turn up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on July 29, 2007, 10:29:59 PM
Not sure I believe there was a bit of confusion within the camp as to when the refixture was in the end we couldnt field a team due to the injury and suspensions we picked up in the game on the sunday before.  Most were still missing today and we lost 1-3 to 0-16 against a very good Granemore so probably for the best.  We only had two fit players on the sub bench
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 30, 2007, 12:20:13 AM
Harps beat Tir na Nog by 3 points.  :)

A goal and 2 points within 4 minutes before the break changed the game.

another 2 points for the city side, another 2 victories required I'd say to keep Division 1 status.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 30, 2007, 08:24:48 AM
Anybody got updated tables.  I was looking round that Orchardcounty website, but it doesn't look like its been done in a while
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 30, 2007, 08:28:15 AM
Tullysaran beat Lisummon by a point with a good second half performance after goin in at half time 4 or 5 points down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 30, 2007, 08:56:41 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on July 30, 2007, 08:28:15 AM
Tullysaran beat Lisummon by a point with a good second half performance after goin in at half time 4 or 5 points down.

Were u playing Hank?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 30, 2007, 08:59:58 AM
any reports frm tones game on fri nite?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 30, 2007, 09:04:05 AM
not at all.. you back yet?

Does orchard county usually have the weekend results up on a monday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 30, 2007, 09:06:34 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on July 30, 2007, 09:04:05 AM
not at all.. you back yet?

Does orchard county usually have the weekend results up on a monday?

Nah not back yet.  Done the full Training yesterday so i'm not that far away. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 30, 2007, 10:22:44 AM
mooncat tones where against the wind in the first half.cullaville went 2 points up then john toal had a great chance for a goal.few minutes later conor coleman roasted paddy murphy and squared the ball for sean smyth to score a goal.at half time cullaville went in 2 pooints up thanks to a couple of great saves by kieran murray.at the start of secongd half cullaville got a goal and 3 points that rocked the tones and the game was over.big aidan mcgeown was brought on at midfield and started to dominate but the swich was strange as moriarty was doing well at midfield,moved him to right half back.tones then kept trying get goals ended up losing by five,would expect whitecross to win final.good win in league yesterday if beat annaghmore friday should stay up!
Title: Re: Armagh Club Results
Post by: Armagh Exile on July 30, 2007, 10:36:02 AM
Taken from Orchardcounty.com

ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS & TABLES FOR W/E SUNDAY 29 JULY 2007


Monday 23 July

Armagh Junior Football Championship semi-final
Clady 0-13; Mullaghbrack 0-8

Armagh Minor Football Championship – 2nd Round
Crossmaglen 4-16; Harps 0-3
Granemore 4-10; St John's 0-8
Clann Eireann 4-8; Keady 0-7
Maghery 1-6; St Patrick's 3-9
Carrickcruppen 2-10; Pearse Og 1-6
Ballyhegan 0-5; Tullysaran 3-14
Oliver Plunkett's 3-11; Killeavey 0-7
Madden 2-7; Shane O'Neill's 1-7


Wednesday 25 July

ACL – Division II
Carrickcruppen v Annaghmore (Off)

Armagh 'B' Football Championship Semi-final
Ballyhegan lost to Maghery


Friday 27 July

Intermediate Football Championship Semi-Final
Culloville 1-11; Wolfe Tones 1-6

ACL – Division I
Clan na Gael 1-10; Pearse Og 1-12

ACL – Division II
Silverbridge 0-11; Clann Eireann 1-9
Granemore 0-16; St Peter's 1-8

ACL – Division III
An Port Mor 0-13; Crossmaglen II 0-9
Lissummon 1-10; Madden 2-8
Sarsfields 3-16; St Paul's 0-8

ACL – Division IV
Grange 0-8; Eire Og 0-4
Corrinshego 1-4; Shane O'Neill's 2-14
Phelim Brady's 0-6; Mullaghbrack 1-17


Sunday 29 July

Armagh Intermediate Football Championship Semi-Final
St Patrick's 0-12; Whitecross 3-5

Armagh Junior Football Championship Semi-Final
Collegeland 1-7; Derrynoose 0-7

ACL – Division I
Mullaghbawn v Whitecross (Off)
Pearse Og v Crossmaglen (Off)
Clan na Gael 2-14; Culloville 1-7
Maghery 1-9; Dromintee 2-11
Harps 1-8; Tir na nÓg 0-8

ACL – Division II
Granemore 0-16; Annaghmore 1-3
Wolfe Tones 0-13; Keady 0-6
St Michael's 3-10; Killeavey 3-10
Clann Eireann v St Patrick's (Off)
Silverbridge 1-16; St Peter's 1-4
Carrickcruppen 1-18; Ballymacnab 0-9

ACL – Division III
Crossmaglen II v Ballyhegan (Off)
Clonmore 1-14; Clady 0-9
Tullysaran 2-6; Lissummon 1-8
Middletown 1-4; Madden 0-19
Collegeland v An Port Mor (Off)

ACL – Division IV
O'Hanlon's v Derrynoose (Off)
Corrinshego 1-7; Dorsey Emmett's 1-13
Belleek 3-8; Eire Og 0-7
Mullaghbrack 1-11; Grange 0-8
Forkhill 1-14; Phelim Brady's 3-2




ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 11 10 0 1 20
Mullaghbawn 13 7 2 4 16
Dromintee 12 7 1 4 15
Maghery 12 7 1 4 15
Pearse Og 12 7 1 4 15
Harps 12 5 1 6 11
Clan na Gael 12 4 2 6 10
Whitecross 11 4 0 7 8
Culloville 12 3 1 8 7
Tir na nÓg 13 1 1 11 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
Killeavey 14 10 1 3 21
St Patrick's 10 9 0 1 18
Silverbridge 12 8 1 3 17
St Michael's 13 7 3 3 17
Carrickcruppen 9 6 0 3 12
Ballymacnab 14 6 0 8 12
Granemore 9 5 0 4 10
Clann Eireann 10 5 0 5 10
Keady 12 3 1 8 7
Wolfe Tones 11 2 2 7 6
Annaghmore 12 2 0 10 4
St Peter's 12 2 0 10 4

Division III
P W D L Pts
Madden 12 11 0 1 22
An Port Mor 11 9 0 2 18
Sarsfields 11 9 0 2 18
Lissummon 13 7 1 5 15
Collegeland 11 6 1 4 13
Tullysaran 12 5 2 5 12
Clonmore 14 5 0 9 10
Ballyhegan 10 4 0 6 8
St Paul's 10 3 1 6 7
Middletown 7 2 0 5 4
Clady 12 1 2 9 4
Crossmaglen II 11 1 1 9 3

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Belleek 11 9 0 2 18
Grange 11 7 1 2 17
Dorsey Emmett's 12 7 2 3 16
Shane O'Neill's 10 6 2 2 14
Eire Og 12 7 0 5 14
Forkhill 11 6 0 5 12
Mullaghbrack 11 6 0 5 12
Derrynoose 9 5 1 3 11
O'Hanlon's 12 3 2 7 8
Corrinshego 12 1 0 11 2
Phelim Brady's 13 0 0 13 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 30, 2007, 11:20:46 AM
cheers charlie stubbs, half expected an upset there but not to be. 

was chattin to a lad th other day heard the harps have appointed a new fitness coach in young paul hagan, the reasons behind this was apparently he is pure scrap on th pitch so they had to put somewhere,  any truth in this? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 30, 2007, 12:45:08 PM
There's a nice n tight wee battle there for 2nd place
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 30, 2007, 12:47:23 PM
Quote from: mooncatiii on July 30, 2007, 11:20:46 AM
cheers charlie stubbs, half expected an upset there but not to be. 

was chattin to a lad th other day heard the harps have appointed a new fitness coach in young paul hagan, the reasons behind this was apparently he is pure scrap on th pitch so they had to put somewhere,  any truth in this? 

probably a little truth, though i wouldnt have hagan down for a fitness coach. his own physique is hardly a benchmark for anyone. the bear mess as he's known by some fellow harps members.

hear he's in training for a marathon though..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 30, 2007, 12:48:06 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 30, 2007, 12:45:08 PM
There's a nice n tight wee battle there for 2nd place

in which division??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 30, 2007, 12:51:47 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 30, 2007, 12:48:06 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 30, 2007, 12:45:08 PM
There's a nice n tight wee battle there for 2nd place

in which division??

I was talking about the !st division, but it could be said for most of them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 30, 2007, 12:55:29 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 30, 2007, 12:51:47 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 30, 2007, 12:48:06 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 30, 2007, 12:45:08 PM
There's a nice n tight wee battle there for 2nd place

in which division??

I was talking about the !st division, but it could be said for most of them

second in the first division doesnt matter. at least in 2, 3 and 4 theres the prize of promotion.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on July 30, 2007, 01:07:09 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 30, 2007, 12:47:23 PM
Quote from: mooncatiii on July 30, 2007, 11:20:46 AM
cheers charlie stubbs, half expected an upset there but not to be. 

was chattin to a lad th other day heard the harps have appointed a new fitness coach in young paul hagan, the reasons behind this was apparently he is pure scrap on th pitch so they had to put somewhere,  any truth in this? 

probably a little truth, though i wouldnt have hagan down for a fitness coach. his own physique is hardly a benchmark for anyone. the bear mess as he's known by some fellow harps members.

hear he's in training for a marathon though..

an all u can eat marathon
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 30, 2007, 01:09:27 PM
Clans play whitecross on Friday night in whitecross, that should be a cracker. I hope that guy who thru the c**k out in the last game in Davitt Park is playing. The loosers of that game will def have the cat among the pigeons
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 30, 2007, 01:12:24 PM
Quote from: mooncatiii on July 30, 2007, 01:07:09 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 30, 2007, 12:47:23 PM
Quote from: mooncatiii on July 30, 2007, 11:20:46 AM
cheers charlie stubbs, half expected an upset there but not to be. 

was chattin to a lad th other day heard the harps have appointed a new fitness coach in young paul hagan, the reasons behind this was apparently he is pure scrap on th pitch so they had to put somewhere,  any truth in this? 

probably a little truth, though i wouldnt have hagan down for a fitness coach. his own physique is hardly a benchmark for anyone. the bear mess as he's known by some fellow harps members.

hear he's in training for a marathon though..

an all u can eat marathon

if he's plannin any fundraisers for the hat he's need to get the oul buckfast on tap for mr. mckenna and co  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 30, 2007, 01:20:59 PM
Indeed i hope the flasher is playing for whitecross because i would say there will be a few ribs tickled in the opening stages.  ;) :D The guy will learn to keep the bird in the nest from now on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 30, 2007, 01:34:02 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 30, 2007, 12:55:29 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 30, 2007, 12:51:47 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 30, 2007, 12:48:06 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 30, 2007, 12:45:08 PM
There's a nice n tight wee battle there for 2nd place

in which division??

I was talking about the !st division, but it could be said for most of them

second in the first division doesnt matter. at least in 2, 3 and 4 theres the prize of promotion.

Well done in picking that up.  It was more of statement saying cross had the league in the bag  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seeheartalk on July 30, 2007, 01:39:22 PM
The same c**k roasted McKeever last night. And not in the Stan Collymore sense... or was that dogging? ???
Clans will be expecting to win that game. Whitecross lads think they have won the All-Ireland after beating a poor Cullyhanna, so will be drunk out by Friday.
Heard Cullyhanna boys were looking odds on winning the Intermediate All-Ireland this year. Yo Don't believe the hype. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 30, 2007, 01:52:43 PM
well as some other clubs around south armagh have learned... never bet on yourself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 30, 2007, 02:11:30 PM
Quote from: seeheartalk on July 30, 2007, 01:39:22 PM
The same c**k roasted McKeever last night. And not in the Stan Collymore sense... or was that dogging? ???
Clans will be expecting to win that game. Whitecross lads think they have won the All-Ireland after beating a poor Cullyhanna, so will be drunk out by Friday.
Heard Cullyhanna boys were looking odds on winning the Intermediate All-Ireland this year. Yo Don't believe the hype. ;)

Well the word on the street is that Whitecross are quite confident of beating the Clans. and to be fair their record againt the clans for this year and last stands at 1 win 1 loss and 1 draw so why wouldn't they be confident and they are in the final of the intermediate championship not to mention they beat the clans in Davitt park this year. so the Clans actually go into this game as underdogs.

Don't forget Whitecross have the "flying c**k" playing for them. ;) :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 30, 2007, 02:12:12 PM
Do tell more qub
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Loup Bandit on July 30, 2007, 02:45:34 PM
Congratulations to Whitecross on their victory last night and to super sub Colly O'Hanlon!  ;D

I also heard on good authority that Cullyhanna lads were lookin odds on themselves for all-ireland.
my, how that backfired on them!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 30, 2007, 07:02:14 PM
from orchard county

Sun Aug 5th Donal Powell Cup Semi Finals (ET if Req'd)
2.00pm Pearse Og Pk Granemore v An Port Mor - G Devlin
7.00pm Abbey Pk Madden v Ballyhegan - P Rath

are these fixtures under 16?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 30, 2007, 10:02:27 PM
carrickcruppen beat ballyhegan 4-15 to 0-5 tonight in the all-county b league!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on July 30, 2007, 10:43:01 PM
great result for cruppen keeps the unbeaten record goin..got team performance...roll on clan na gael on wednesday night......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2007, 03:03:09 AM
QuoteClans will be expecting to win that game. Whitecross lads think they have won the All-Ireland after beating a poor Cullyhanna, so will be drunk out by Friday.

It's not like me to stand up for Cullyhanna but they are not a poor team!  Dont be so daft!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on July 31, 2007, 08:28:11 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E TUESDAY 7 AUGUST 2007


Monday 30 July

'B' ACL – Group B (7.00)
Carrickcruppen v Ballyhegan


Wednesday 1 August

ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Ballymacnab v St Michael's (Seamus O'Neill)

ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Derrynoose v Forkhill (Barney Henry)

'B' ACL – Group A (7.30)
Pearse Og v Killeavey (Malachy McNicholl)
Granemore v An Port Mor (Paudie Hughes)
Silverbridge v Tir na nÓg (Kevin Gallogly)

'B' ACL – Group B (7.30)
Carrickcruppen v Clan na Gael (Oliver Hearty)
Ballyhegan v Madden (Gerard Devlin)
Mullaghbawn v Dromintee (Sean McClatchey)


Thursday 2 August

ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Keady v Silverbridge (Joe Murtagh)

Under-16 Championship Semi-Final (7.30)
Ballymacnab v Tir na nÓg (Seamus Faloon) at Grange

Under-16 ACL – Group A (7.30)
Shane O'Neill's v Clann Eireann (Kevin Murtagh)

Under-16 ACL – Group B (7.30)
Crossmaglen v Granemore (Dessie McDonnell)


Friday 3 August

ACL – Div. I (7.30)
Whitecross v Clan na Gael (Paudie Hughes)
Culloville v Harps (Rory Robinson)
Crossmaglen v Maghery (Barney Henry)
Tir na nÓg v Pearse Og (Jim Lynch)

ACL – Div. II (7.30)
St Peter's v Carrickcruppen (Gary Smith)
Annaghmore v Clann Eireann (Vincent O'Neill)
Killeavey v Granemore (Sean McClatchey)
St Patrick's v Wolfe Tones (Seamus Faloon)

ACL – Div. III (7.30)
St Paul's v Clonmore (Tony O'Hare)
Ballyhegan v Collegeland (Eamon Nugent)
Madden v Crossmaglen II (Kevin McNeice)
Clady v Middletown (Stephen McKinley)
Lissummon v Sarsfields (Jim Slevin)

ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Dorsey Emmett's v Belleek (Jim Burns)
Derrynoose v Corrinshego (Dessie McDonnell)
Grange v Forkhill (Mickey Leonard)
Phelim Brady's v O'Hanlon's (Gerard Devlin)
Eire Og v Shane O'Neill's (Paul Boylan)


Saturday 4 August

ACL – Div. I (5.00)
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn (Malachy McNicholl)

Under-16 ACL – Group A (7.00)
Harps v Ballymacnab (Kevin Gallogly)

Under-16 ACL – Group B (7.00)
Tir na nÓg v Keady (Damian McConville)


Sunday 5 August

Under-16 ACL – Group A (7.00)
St Patrick's v Shane O'Neill's (Jim Lynch)


Tuesday 7 August

ACL – Div. II (7.30)
St Patrick's v Granemore (Gary Smith)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 31, 2007, 10:38:14 AM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on July 30, 2007, 10:43:01 PM
great result for cruppen keeps the unbeaten record goin..got team performance...roll on clan na gael on wednesday night......

Thats some score line against a team that beat us 2 weeks ago in the B's. Cruppin will prob beat us 8-30 to 0-10 ;), i think i'll have to pull a few seniors in for that game ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 31, 2007, 11:12:05 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 31, 2007, 10:38:14 AM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on July 30, 2007, 10:43:01 PM
great result for cruppen keeps the unbeaten record goin..got team performance...roll on clan na gael on wednesday night......

Thats some score line against a team that beat us 2 weeks ago in the B's. Cruppin will prob beat us 8-30 to 0-10 ;), i think i'll have to pull a few seniors in for that game ;)

i hear ballyhegan were missing quite a few according to charlie mckeever. though the way cruppen played it didnt seem like that would matter. excellent performance in first half. found it hard to keep it going after they hit their fouth goal in first minute or so of the second half, with everyone looking on the score sheet but thats the way it goes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 31, 2007, 01:54:40 PM
Has the next round of the minor championship been drawn yet?  Watched Tullysaran beat the Harps quite easily last night, but in all honesty I'll be suprised if they win the County(unless maybe that wasn't a full team last night??).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 31, 2007, 02:30:49 PM

Don't think there's much of a prize for second place in the first division.

Looks nailed on at this stage that portadown are gone and most likely one of the intermediate finalists to go with them. harps and clans should be able to muster the couple of wins needed to preserve their status.

It was interesting watching the cullyhanna v whitcross semi on sunday evening how the championship can bring out the wost in teams. whitcross are always a very fluent and mobile team but there was very little of that on view. do teams get too anxious for championship games? the commonest failing with players who don't perform on the day are trying to do things they don't normally or trying to do too much. The intermedate final should be a real clash of styles, with the bigger more direct cullaville against the faster running game of whitecross. Is it unusual to have 2 division one teams in the intrmediate final, especially with so many senior championship clubs in the second division?

Senior championship is warming up nicely. the only walkover in the quarters will probably bethe ogs and ballymacnab. from what i've seen of maghery, i'd expect them to take care of our neighbours killeavy but it'll be a well matched game. Cruppen and Tir na nog will be another tight one, which could go either way.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2007, 02:51:46 PM
QuoteIs it unusual to have 2 division one teams in the intrmediate final, especially with so many senior championship clubs in the second division?
Just another example of the dodgy championship system we have.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 31, 2007, 03:00:58 PM

with 45 clubs playing league football, would it not be more sensible to have three divisions of fifteen, with three up and three down? that way you could run it paralell with the senior junior and intermediate championships?

championship victory would guarantee promotion, meaning only 2 teams would go up if you were outside the promotion places.

I think i'm right in saying that both ballyhegan and sarsfields are still in the senior championship and their in division 3?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 31, 2007, 03:06:08 PM
AFAIK Sarsfield & Ballyheagn are in Intermediate

If there was 3 leagues of 15 you would not be able to run off leagues on home & away basis
Its not too bad that you play teams in championship that you wouldnt normally play - its a bit of a change
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 31, 2007, 03:10:45 PM
Quote from: full back on July 31, 2007, 03:06:08 PM
Its not too bad that you play teams in championship that you wouldnt normally play - its a bit of a change

well there's a good reson if ever i heard it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 31, 2007, 03:13:22 PM
Dont act the smart arse Aghda
I was just giving 1 reason why it isnt too bad
You dont even f**king know who is in your championship ::) maybe thats because you only pray that your name isnt drawn out with the black & amber :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2007, 03:30:09 PM
I definitely think the championship needs changed.  Having division 1 teams playing in the intermediate championship and division 2 teams in the senior championship is a joke, does it happen anywhere else?  I'd like to see it on a league basis.

Quote
with 45 clubs playing league football, would it not be more sensible to have three divisions of fifteen, with three up and three down? that way you could run it paralell with the senior junior and intermediate championships?
I wouldn't mind seeing something like that done though 28 league games is to much, 14 wouldnt be enough. 

I still think the biggest problem we have though is referees!  :-\  Am I getting grumpier or are they getting worse?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 31, 2007, 03:32:18 PM
Correct pints, they are getting worse & one of the worst is very close to home ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 31, 2007, 03:36:45 PM
Yeeeaaaahhhhhoooooo :D

Stop complaining about the refs they're the best in the land ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2007, 03:39:15 PM
Quote from: full back on July 31, 2007, 03:32:18 PM
Correct pints, they are getting worse & one of the worst is very close to home ;)

Maybe so fullback but it is alarming how many games I've seen this year that the referee's incompetence has affected the outcome of the game or, if the game had to be tight, would have affected it. 


Don't worry illdecide we'll try and not break your record of 4 days!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 31, 2007, 03:46:27 PM
Is there a break after this Friday in the ACL?

Any clubs nominate someone different for the Armagh job or is it the usual suspects (2 Rafferty's & PG)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on July 31, 2007, 04:00:07 PM
QuoteMaybe so fullback but it is alarming how many games I've seen this year that the referee's incompetence has affected the outcome of the game or, if the game had to be tight, would have affected it

Have to agree with you Pints I think two of our last three games have gone against us because of some very poor refereeing and its probably going to mean the difference between staying up and going down.  Mind you still havent seen a ref as bad as the one who sent off an opposition player last year for square ball.   ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 31, 2007, 04:00:16 PM
Is there defo a nomination process for the clubs? if a club nominates a complete tool, do they still get an interview?

i've heard two credible rumours.... Grimley won't be leaving cavan and moran & beefer are running a very hard campaign for the job.

who else is there beyond the usual suspects....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 31, 2007, 04:03:41 PM
pints i would have to disagree with you with having the championship on a league basis!

im basing my judgement on the county team managements refusal to let players play with their clubs during the ulster and all-ireland series! clubs like pearse ogs, crossmaglen, dromintee harps etc with county players wont (and correctly so) play without their county men so i cant see where the fixtures committee would find adequate dates for playing off a league basis county championship whenever they are having problems sorting out the current set-up!

im happy enough with the current system for championship! if clubs struggle to win the intermediate championship then they shouldnt be given the right to senior chamionship status just because they play in division 1. any clubs who get defeated in round 1 or 2 of their perspective championship grades each year should ask to be regraded to the lower grade!

im sure its no fun for clubs in the senior or intermediate championship who get beat in the first round year after year who still try and compete in the same grade the following year only to be beaten!

if you look at the finalists in the intermediate chamionship this year whitecross got promoted to division 1 last year and cullaville got promoted this year so division 1 football has obviously brought them on. two years ago granemore won the intermediate championship and got relegated to division 3 in the same year (i think) at the end of the day it is the luck on the draw and the performance on the day!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 31, 2007, 04:11:45 PM
uladh as far as i am aware clubs have been given nomination forms where the person nominated by the club has to personally sign it!

so i would imagine this would cut out the bullshit of clubs nominating tools like joe bloggs and pj connolly!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 31, 2007, 04:20:52 PM

Thanks for clearing that up Ard mhacha abu
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 31, 2007, 04:23:04 PM
oh you are so wrong!

and the next time i see you at a match or in carrickcruppen i will gladly point out to you who i am!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 31, 2007, 04:27:12 PM
what age group play in the donal powell cup
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 31, 2007, 04:27:51 PM
Don't worry illdecide we'll try and not break your record of 4 days! 


Whats that about Pints?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2007, 04:29:48 PM
Quotepints i would have to disagree with you with having the championship on a league basis!
I actually meant that the grading be done on the league position of the clubs though your point about county players is still relevant. 

Quote
im happy enough with the current system for championship! if clubs struggle to win the intermediate championship then they shouldnt be given the right to senior chamionship status just because they play in division 1.
A club shouldn't be given the right of a championship status because they've a history there.  How long will Ballymacnab and Granemore be in the senior championship and would you consider them "senior" clubs?  They may have won the intermediate but they're poor division 2 teams.  It doesn't make sense.   

Quoteany clubs who get defeated in round 1 or 2 of their perspective championship grades each year should ask to be regraded to the lower grade!
Aye that'll happen.   


QuoteDon't worry illdecide we'll try and not break your record of 4 days! 
Your complaining about ronan quigley.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 31, 2007, 04:51:09 PM
pints it is all about swallowing there pride and being honest about themselves!

ballymacnab and granemore are both progressive clubs and have been deservant of their intermediate championship success i would say however that they wont be getting carried away with senior status and will regrade in a couple of years time!

let them enjoy there moment but only themselves will know when the time is to regrade!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Against the Breeze on July 31, 2007, 04:59:48 PM
Diesel Smuggler...

"like pearse ogs, crossmaglen, dromintee harps etc with county players wont (and correctly so) play without their county men so i cant see where the fixtures committee would find adequate dates for playing off a league basis county championship whenever they are having problems sorting out the current set-up!


Sorry I cvant work the Quote Icon but when has this being the case with these clubs you have mentioned?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on July 31, 2007, 05:32:45 PM
against the breeze if you would bother to read back to pints proposals to a new championship format you will see that he is suggesting championship be played on a league basis therefore ensuring that more fixtures will come into effect than what we are already playing with!

the county managements refusal to let county players play with their clubs is hard enough on clubs during a league campaign at present but where are we going to find the time to fit in a league basis championship structure when the fixtures committee are pressed enough as it is!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 31, 2007, 07:13:10 PM
Let's not spoil a good week for all footballing clubs in S. Armagh (bar Cullyhanna).  Lets leave Ronan Quigley alone~they all do their best!  Well done the blues!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2007, 07:48:17 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on July 31, 2007, 05:32:45 PM
against the breeze if you would bother to read back to pints proposals to a new championship format you will see that he is suggesting championship be played on a league basis therefore ensuring that more fixtures will come into effect than what we are already playing with!

the county managements refusal to let county players play with their clubs is hard enough on clubs during a league campaign at present but where are we going to find the time to fit in a league basis championship structure when the fixtures committee are pressed enough as it is!
:-\
If you would read back you would see that I am not proposing that and already said that in a previous post.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 31, 2007, 09:29:39 PM
Quote from: Uladh on July 31, 2007, 04:00:16 PM

i've heard two credible rumours.... Grimley won't be leaving cavan ....

Well he looks pretty comfortable in his CN reg Passat ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on August 01, 2007, 01:06:04 AM
PofG I guess you are arguing that the championship should be based on league performance as Silverbridge would be re-graded into the Senior Championship, but lets face it if your club can't beat St. Peters in the Intermediate, why should they be in the Senior Championship?  Granemore lost to Killeavey by a goal when they were seemingly unstoppable in Division 2, hardly a mis-match!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on August 01, 2007, 03:17:25 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 31, 2007, 09:29:39 PM
Quote from: Uladh on July 31, 2007, 04:00:16 PM

i've heard two credible rumours.... Grimley won't be leaving cavan ....

Well he looks pretty comfortable in his CN reg Passat ::)

Is there something you would like to say Joe instead of just implying?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on August 01, 2007, 03:46:31 AM
If beefer is anywhere near the county set up I will have to seriously consider my allegiance to Armagh............................ I may end up having to support Tyrone or dare I say it even Dow...........................never mind. I hope JM does not even get an interview.

The last thing we need is some clown trying to send space age subliminal messages to players that don't respect him let alone take the time to absorb and understand the zen shite he would be trying to instill in them. We are Armagh men, forget sophistication and existentialism and lets get the best 15 players on the field and get them as fit and as prepared as possible and maybe mix in a plan B if we need to make the odd aul adjustment during the game.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 01, 2007, 06:49:01 AM
Quote from: stew on August 01, 2007, 03:17:25 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on July 31, 2007, 09:29:39 PM
Quote from: Uladh on July 31, 2007, 04:00:16 PM

i've heard two credible rumours.... Grimley won't be leaving cavan ....

Well he looks pretty comfortable in his CN reg Passat ::)

Is there something you would like to say Joe instead of just implying?

Yes, he is driving a Cavan reg Passat.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 01, 2007, 08:30:52 AM
Quote from: 02 on August 01, 2007, 01:06:04 AM
PofG I guess you are arguing that the championship should be based on league performance as Silverbridge would be re-graded into the Senior Championship, but lets face it if your club can't beat St. Peters in the Intermediate, why should they be in the Senior Championship?  Granemore lost to Killeavey by a goal when they were seemingly unstoppable in Division 2, hardly a mis-match!

no I'm not arguing the bridge should be re-graded, the bridge are in the right championship for them at this time and it's a pity not all clubs where as honest with themselves.  I reject the notion that I can't comment on something unless there's something in it for the bridge!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 01, 2007, 08:41:22 AM
pints we will have a bit of craic here and a debate on championship
in your opinion what clubs in the senior and intermediate championship are not being honest with themselves and who do you think should downgrade?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 01, 2007, 08:45:57 AM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on July 31, 2007, 04:27:12 PM
what age group play in the donal powell cup

This is a B play-off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 01, 2007, 09:03:45 AM
Hey pints did you read the Irish News this morning? more people complaining about refs. JP Gallagher says he will never play GAA again because of the abuse refs give him WTF, i always thought it was the other way around.
anyway he is calling for refs from neighbouring counties to referee the games and visa versa. He must be a right tool bucket to call it a day because some refs said something about his hair or his apperance or prob his white boots :D :D.

Sure we have all said that refs from other counties should be doing the big games particulary the championship matches.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on August 01, 2007, 09:26:49 AM
Not a toolbag at all. He is talented as f**k but you Armagh ones don't realise that the Tyrone league is played on a much higher intensity level than your games. I regularly catch an Armagh league game on a friday night or sunday at 2pm then race to wherever my club are playing in Tyrone. We have complete loopers refereeing our games that want to be the centre of attention and have personal gripes with players!!! Not the right way to do things.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laceer on August 01, 2007, 09:56:23 AM
Quote from: illdecide on August 01, 2007, 09:03:45 AM
Hey pints did you read the Irish News this morning? more people complaining about refs. JP Gallagher says he will never play GAA again because of the abuse refs give him WTF, i always thought it was the other way around.
anyway he is calling for refs from neighbouring counties to referee the games and visa versa. He must be a right tool bucket to call it a day because some refs said something about his hair or his apperance or prob his white boots :D :D.

Sure we have all said that refs from other counties should be doing the big games particulary the championship matches.....

don't think it's his hair or boots he's getting abuse about - "you diving soccer bastard" was one delightful speak from a referee to gallagher.he says it's happening regularly as well.from what i know of him he's a gentleman on and off the field and a great player as well.tyrone is full of mini hitler referees..they're going to be the main attraction/talking point in any game they referee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on August 01, 2007, 10:27:34 AM

Its not right of course but he's not the only player suffering regularly at the hands of referees. he's certainly not the only man playing soccer concurrently. in my opinion he's a bit of a crybaby quitting over this. by all means use your platform as a dual player to highlight the issue, but rolling over because the big bad refs won't give him frees shows a real lack of character
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 01, 2007, 10:41:04 AM
The standard of refeering is poor all round and we have our fair share of muppets looking to be the centre of attention too, but you can't just throw the towel in every time something goes against you. Where did his dummy land when he spat it out, as far as i'm concerned he was looking for an easy way out of playing GAA as he's a soccer man and he just didn't wanna play both ;) ;)

Sam McClatchy refeered our game a few years ago against Silverbridge in Davitt Park and after the match he said to one of the Bridge guys "See that we ginger bollox he needs flatened" I was standing behing him when he said it and i pulled him about it he just shrugged his shoulders.

By the way he is a we ginger bollox anyway big Sam had a point there ;) :D :D. but the point i'm making is we have that shit too and we don't run to the papers crying about it or quitting for f**king soccer >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 01, 2007, 10:58:20 AM
Agree 100% with you illdecide, there is no doubt he was looking a way out & saw this as a perfect opportunity.
And as for running to the papers ::) :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 01, 2007, 11:31:39 AM
Does anyone know why the County Board decided this year that Joe should step down?

From what I have heard Joe went into the meeting looking another year, but that he was refused.

If that is correct what caused the County Board to make that decision now when it has appeared that Joe has run the County Board for the last few years, ie where did the balls come from all of a sudden?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 01, 2007, 11:42:05 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on August 01, 2007, 11:31:39 AM
Does anyone know why the County Board decided this year that Joe should step down?

From what I have heard Joe went into the meeting looking another year, but that he was refused.

If that is correct what caused the County Board to make that decision now when it has appeared that Joe has run the County Board for the last few years, ie where did the balls come from all of a sudden?

Kevin Brady county Chairman and a Clan na Geal man (North Armagh's back in control) ;) :D

All joke on the side i heard a right few of the players and Joe did not get on and maybe that was taken into consideration, there could have been a bit of back-stabbing going on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 01, 2007, 12:35:53 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on August 01, 2007, 11:31:39 AM
Does anyone know why the County Board decided this year that Joe should step down?

From what I have heard Joe went into the meeting looking another year, but that he was refused.

If that is correct what caused the County Board to make that decision now when it has appeared that Joe has run the County Board for the last few years, ie where did the balls come from all of a sudden?

Player power from what I've heard.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 01, 2007, 01:27:21 PM
Quote
Sam McClatchy refeered our game a few years ago against Silverbridge in Davitt Park and after the match he said to one of the Bridge guys "See that we ginger bollox he needs flatened" I was standing behing him when he said it and i pulled him about it he just shrugged his shoulders.

By the way he is a we ginger bollox anyway big Sam had a point there
Any club in the county would have him he's well use to getting that type of "protection" too.



I haven't time to answer you now DS, I will later.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 01, 2007, 03:34:26 PM
It really is wonderful now that everyone is criticising the referees things are all rosie in the garden but when a few of the clans boys were stating this point 2 months ago they were called whingers. Brilliant  :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 01, 2007, 03:43:53 PM
The Clans had 6 men sent off in 3 games, that was the issue I believe
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 01, 2007, 03:58:56 PM
ill decide or winsamsoon any of you lot playing in cruppen tonight in the b-league?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 01, 2007, 04:35:49 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on August 01, 2007, 03:58:56 PM
ill decide or winsamsoon any of you lot playing in cruppen tonight in the b-league?

Yes Diesel, i will. who do you want took out :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 01, 2007, 04:49:40 PM
what position do you play?
oh! take a tenner with you! you can buy a ticket for our development draw off me! haha!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 01, 2007, 04:49:46 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 01, 2007, 03:34:26 PM
It really is wonderful now that everyone is criticising the referees things are all rosie in the garden but when a few of the clans boys were stating this point 2 months ago they were called whingers. Brilliant  :D ;)

How many posters does it take to constitute "everyone"?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 01, 2007, 04:52:11 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on August 01, 2007, 04:49:40 PM
what position do you play?
oh! take a tenner with you! you can buy a ticket for our development draw off me! haha!



I'll decide what position to play in when i get up there, because i pick the team ;) :D.

Gotta go and catch my train or i'll be at no match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 01, 2007, 08:53:13 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on August 01, 2007, 08:41:22 AM
pints we will have a bit of craic here and a debate on championship
in your opinion what clubs in the senior and intermediate championship are not being honest with themselves and who do you think should downgrade?

Well I was thinking the senior championship should be made up of division 1 clubs and I'd like to see a bigger division 1, look at the top of division 2 this year, the top teams are far too strong for the rest and there's 3 or 4 teams that could cope easily with division 1.  (Before you start 02 you can leave the bridge in division 2 if you want)
Does it make any sense division 2 teams play in the senior championship while division 1 teams play in the intermediate?  Look at Granemore, ok they won the intermediate but will they ever matter in the senior championship?  Will Ballymacnab ever matter in the senior championship?  It's ridiculous.
Whitecross and Cullaville should be in the senior, particularly whitecross, isn't this their second or third year in division 1?
I can't really comment on the lower divisions and Junior championship.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on August 01, 2007, 10:04:42 PM
I don't actually disagree with you pints, although what will happen when a team who should be relegated from Division 1 win the Senior Championship?  However, it was the way in which you singled out particular clubs to illustrate your argument.  Those clubs were there on merit as they had won the Intermediate.  Also there is such a phenomena as 'championship teams', for example this year at inter-county level Sligo finished 4th in Division 2B behind the mighty Wexford, yet they are now Connacht Champions and competing in an All-Ireland quarter-final.

Finally your arrogant point about will former junior clubs ever matter in the Senior Championship, may well be true, but it doesn't take into account such huge strides these rural clubs have made in recent years and the changing fortunes of clubs.  Since the early 00's Granemore have won major underage honours from U12 up... and in 2002 beat Cross in the U16 all county championship.. whether this success translates into senior success remains to be seen... though you can never say never!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 01, 2007, 10:22:07 PM
QuoteI don't actually disagree with you pints, although what will happen when a team who should be relegrated from Division 1 win the Senior Championship? However, it was the way in which you singled out particular clubs to illustrate your argument.  Those clubs were there on merit as they had won the Intermediate.  Also there is such a phenomena as 'championship teams', for example this year at inter-county level Sligo finished 4th in Division 2B behind the mighty Wexford, yet they are now Connacht Champions and competing in an All-Ireland semi-final.
I believe in any county where the championship grading is based on league position it would mean that team would remain senior. 
I realise those clubs I've mentioned are there because they won the intermediate however Granemore won it two years ago? will they choose to go down a grade?  Ballymacnab is unlikely to make an impact either, will they choose to go down? 
Look at St. Pats - top team in division two - playing intermediate - Cruppen, Killeavy, Clann Eireann, Newtown all below them but playing senior.  Where is the sense with that?

Quote
Finally your arrogant point about will former junior clubs ever matter in the Senior Championship, may well be true, but it doesn't take into account such huge strides these rural clubs have made in recent years and the changing fortunes of clubs.  Since the early 00's Granemore have won major underage honours from U12 up... and in 2002 beat Cross in the U16 all county championship.. whether this success translates into senior success remains to be seen... though you can never say never!
I may be a lot of things, but one thing I have never done on this board is to be arrogant or patronising  to other clubs. 
On Granemore, they  may well be making strides (and good luck to them)  but, at the minute, they are in the wrong grade. 

btw O2, if we're talking about teams making progress, how can a team make progress if they go out in a championship match to face a team two divisions above them? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on August 01, 2007, 10:33:28 PM
b acl result cruppen 1-15 clan na gael 1-5. another good team performance by cruppen especially qub la la la in corner bk....clans where poor to be fair...heard drumintee stuffed mullabawn..any other results?

QuoteI'll decide what position to play in when i get up there, because i pick the team  .

Gotta go and catch my train or i'll be at no match

u obviously didnt do much playin tonight..i'll decide....u couldnt pick ur nose ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on August 01, 2007, 10:48:54 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on August 01, 2007, 10:33:28 PM
b acl result cruppen 1-15 clan na gael 1-5. another good team performance by cruppen especially qub la la la in corner bk....clans where poor to be fair...heard drumintee stuffed mullabawn..any other results?

bridge beat tir na og 1-19 to 1-5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on August 01, 2007, 10:52:08 PM
another good performance from carrickcruppen can they go all the way?????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on August 01, 2007, 10:59:52 PM
Quote
Look at St. Pats - top team in division two - playing intermediate - Cruppen, Killeavy, Clann Eireann, Newtown all below them but playing senior.  Where is the sense with that?


PofG I totally agree with you that there are stronger league teams, playing in lower tiers of the championship, but this is the systems fault, not the clubs fault - and it is somehow representative of their recent championship form.  As I said I don't disagree with your argument, it was how you made it.  A league based system is not totally ideal too, as to use your favourite quoted examples, as Division 2 teams Granemore and Ballymacnab would be in the Intermediate tier.. say as happened recently either won this championship.. then under the new system they would be entitled to Senior football AND Division 1 status??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 01, 2007, 11:14:23 PM
QuoteDivision 2 teams Granemore and Ballymacnab would be in the Intermediate tier.. say as happened recently either won this championship.. then under the new system they would be entitled to Senior football AND Division 1 status??
No just senior status, i'm not sure for how long but certainly not for as long as they wished.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on August 01, 2007, 11:40:29 PM
Annaghmore beat Maghery in the North Armagh B league tonight 2-12 to 1-9, poor enough game but we were easily the better side.  Its a pity we didn't enter the All County B League
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 01, 2007, 11:45:24 PM
pints you referred to st. pats leading the way in div 2 against senior championship clubs like ourselves killeavey clann eireann etc, im sure tacadoir will agree with me that st. pats struggled last year only stayed in div.2 by way of winning a relegation play-off (i think)

i can only comment on carrickcruppen - up until we won the intermediate championship in 2004 we struggled for a long time in division 3 and luckily survived relegation to div 4 by a whisker!maybe only pride stopped us from going into the junior champioship. in the 3 years back in senior championship we beat pearse ogs in 05 who many people thought would challenge crossmaglen for the title, got beaten by maghery in 06 after a replay, and have a quarter final tie with tir na nog in two weeks all of whom are div.1 one clubs.

i strongly feel that clubs who play intermediate from division 1 should be more than capable of winning the championship as they are playing a better quality of team week in week out! i think that any club in senior or intermediate championship who lose in the preliminary/first round of the championship 3 years in a row should be re-graded to a lower championship tier!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 01, 2007, 11:46:22 PM
you have to qualify for the all county b-league david!

did annaghmore not finish high enough in the north armagh b league?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 01, 2007, 11:53:12 PM
Quotepints you referred to st. pats leading the way in div 2 against senior championship clubs like ourselves killeavey clann eireann etc, im sure tacadoir will agree with me that st. pats struggled last year only stayed in div.2 by way of winning a relegation play-off (i think)
But St. Pats will be playing intermediate next year again, and yourseleves Killeavy etc will be playing senior, so my point stands.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 01, 2007, 11:59:35 PM
well my point stands too!

im sure the bridge would be too proud to go down to the junior though!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 02, 2007, 12:04:31 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on August 01, 2007, 11:59:35 PM
well my point stands too!

im sure the bridge would be too proud to go down to the junior though!
Why would the Bridge go down to Junior?
It was tough on the oul pride to go down to intermediate, but it was for the best.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 02, 2007, 12:09:59 AM
i was only firing a dig in!

have you seen the proposals that pauraic duffy has in recommended to help club football?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on August 02, 2007, 12:10:49 AM
does anyone know whether the draw was made for the minor championship tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on August 02, 2007, 12:11:57 AM
No we were either top of the league or second when the qualification ended but as your probably aware we haven't been able to field a senior team at one stage recently so it was decided that we wouldnt run the risk of anymore injuries.  Also we wouldnt have been able to field a team last week
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 02, 2007, 12:14:18 AM
Quotehave you seen the proposals that pauraic duffy has in recommended to help club football?
No
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 02, 2007, 12:22:16 AM
minor championship draw last night

carrickcruppen v st. patricks
oliver plunketts v granemore
crossmaglen v madden
clann eireann v tullysarran
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 02, 2007, 12:23:55 AM
pints he came up with 18 or 19 ideas that would benefit club football and while most of them are straight forward and common sense it is whether they would be implemented and adhered to at county board level would remain to be seen if they had been adopted at congress!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Saran Man on August 02, 2007, 12:37:01 AM
minor championship
oliver plunketts v granemore
cruppen v st pats
cross v madden
clan eireann v tullysaran

Any ideas.  Would imagine we will struggle against clan eireann.  Our boys not playing well at all at moment.  While we racked up a big score against ballyhegan we struggled for long periods.  going to clan eireann is big ask especially considering the reports of strife coming from our minor camp.
Cross/ granemore/ st pats/ clan eireann to fight out last 4.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on August 02, 2007, 01:22:33 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 01, 2007, 10:22:07 PM
btw O2, if we're talking about teams making progress, how can a team make progress if they go out in a championship match to face a team two divisions above them? 

In 06 Granemore faced Tir na nóg in the Senior Championship, 2 divisions above them at the time, and lost by a point, I'd say this was a good experience progression wise.  They also beat Whitecross the year before in the Intermediate final, again a progressive step.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on August 02, 2007, 05:16:01 AM
Taking PofG suggestion, (based on current standings) here is how the Leagues would shape up: 28 games per year excluding the championship would be a concern. 

ACL Senior

Crossmaglen
Mullaghbawn
Dromintee
Maghery 
Pearse Og
Harps
Clan na Gael
Whitecross
Culloville
Tir na nÓg
Killeavey 
St Patrick's 
Silverbridge
St Michael's
Carrickcruppen

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ACL Intermediate

Ballymacnab
Granemore
Clann Eireann
Keady
Wolfe Tones
Annaghmore 
St Peter's   
Madden
An Port Mor 
Sarsfields 
Lissummon
Collegeland
Tullysaran
Clonmore
Ballyhegan 

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ACL Junior

St Paul's
Middletown
Clady 
Crossmaglen II
Belleek 
Grange 
Dorsey Emmett's 
Shane O'Neill's
Eire Og
Forkhill 
Mullaghbrack 
Derrynoose
O'Hanlon's 
Corrinshego
Phelim Brady's

My rules:
For promotion / relegation, 2/3 spots.  If a team faced relegation but won their respective championship they would be immune and the team or teams above them would go down.  Although they would have to defend the same championship the next year for this immunity.  If a team finishes in the top half of the league (outside the 2 automatic promotion places) and win the championship they get promoted along with the 2 top teams.  For a mid or lower half finish (outside the relegation zone) they get a 2 year wildcard entry into a higher championship. Thoughts??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 02, 2007, 08:25:35 AM
Quote from: 02 on August 02, 2007, 05:16:01 AM
Taking PofG suggestion, (based on current standings) here is how the Leagues would shape up: 28 games per year excluding the championship would be a concern. 

ACL Senior

Crossmaglen
Mullaghbawn
Dromintee
Maghery 
Pearse Og
Harps
Clan na Gael
Whitecross
Culloville
Tir na nÓg
Killeavey 
St Patrick's 
Silverbridge
St Michael's
Carrickcruppen

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ACL Intermediate

Ballymacnab
Granemore
Clann Eireann
Keady
Wolfe Tones
Annaghmore 
St Peter's  
Madden
An Port Mor 
Sarsfields 
Lissummon
Collegeland
Tullysaran
Clonmore
Ballyhegan 

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ACL Junior

St Paul's
Middletown
Clady 
Crossmaglen II
Belleek 
Grange 
Dorsey Emmett's 
Shane O'Neill's
Eire Og
Forkhill 
Mullaghbrack 
Derrynoose
O'Hanlon's 
Corrinshego
Phelim Brady's

My rules:
For promotion / relegation, 2/3 spots.  If a team faced relegation but won their respective championship they would be immune and the team or teams above them would go down.  Although they would have to defend the same championship the next year for this immunity.  If a team finishes in the top half of the league (outside the 2 automatic promotion places) and win the championship they get promoted along with the 2 top teams.  For a mid or lower half finish (outside the relegation zone) they get a 2 year wildcard entry into a higher championship. Thoughts??

I think it would be an afwul long season.  with leagues usually continuing on until nearly october at present squeezing another 10 games in would be too much.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 02, 2007, 08:29:13 AM
Quote from: 02 on August 02, 2007, 01:22:33 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 01, 2007, 10:22:07 PM
btw O2, if we're talking about teams making progress, how can a team make progress if they go out in a championship match to face a team two divisions above them? 

In 06 Granemore faced Tir na nóg in the Senior Championship, 2 divisions above them at the time, and lost by a point, I'd say this was a good experience progression wise.  They also beat Whitecross the year before in the Intermediate final, again a progressive step.
That's not progress O2 that is having the ability to up your game for a championship match. 
Even if you consider it progress it's an exception, not the norm, how teams are well beat when they face teams two divisions above them?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 02, 2007, 08:38:16 AM
Quote from: 02 on August 02, 2007, 05:16:01 AM
Taking PofG suggestion, (based on current standings) here is how the Leagues would shape up: 28 games per year excluding the championship would be a concern. 

ACL Senior

Crossmaglen
Mullaghbawn
Dromintee
Maghery 
Pearse Og
Harps
Clan na Gael
Whitecross
Culloville
Tir na nÓg
Killeavey 
St Patrick's 
Silverbridge
St Michael's
Carrickcruppen

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ACL Intermediate

Ballymacnab
Granemore
Clann Eireann
Keady
Wolfe Tones
Annaghmore 
St Peter's   
Madden
An Port Mor 
Sarsfields 
Lissummon
Collegeland
Tullysaran
Clonmore
Ballyhegan 

------------------------------------------

ACL Junior

St Paul's
Middletown
Clady 
Crossmaglen II
Belleek 
Grange 
Dorsey Emmett's 
Shane O'Neill's
Eire Og
Forkhill 
Mullaghbrack 
Derrynoose
O'Hanlon's 
Corrinshego
Phelim Brady's

My rules:
For promotion / relegation, 2/3 spots.  If a team faced relegation but won their respective championship they would be immune and the team or teams above them would go down.  Although they would have to defend the same championship the next year for this immunity.  If a team finishes in the top half of the league (outside the 2 automatic promotion places) and win the championship they get promoted along with the 2 top teams.  For a mid or lower half finish (outside the relegation zone) they get a 2 year wildcard entry into a higher championship. Thoughts??

I think Tullysaran would like a crack at winning the Junior before being upped to the Intermediate.

Incidentally Port Mor beat the Saran last night by about 5 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 02, 2007, 08:40:52 AM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on August 01, 2007, 10:33:28 PM
b acl result cruppen 1-15 clan na gael 1-5. another good team performance by cruppen especially qub la la la in corner bk....clans where poor to be fair...heard drumintee stuffed mullabawn..any other results?

QuoteI'll decide what position to play in when i get up there, because i pick the team  .

Gotta go and catch my train or i'll be at no match

u obviously didnt do much playin tonight..i'll decide....u couldnt pick ur nose ;D

Cruppin beat us easy last night and i've no excusses, i try my best to call a spade a spade. I could only pick a team from the guys who turn up (and i'm still not making excuses), our guys seem to pick their matches and all of a sudden when we have a match to play away from home then most people seem to have to work, mind kids, holidays, do what women tell them and any other excuse they can think off yet if we were at home we have 28 men standing looking a game.

I would love dearly to drop 7 or 8 of the men who played last night because they ran about like it was a mid ulster soccer match with not a care in the world and no respect for the jersey and probably just not good enough. But i also want to tell the guys who didn't turn up for the match last night to fcuk off but i can't do both or i'd have 8 or 9 players for the next match. (talking about being caught betweeen a rock and a hard place)

So there you go "the joys of management"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 02, 2007, 09:13:43 AM
where did you play last night? was looking for you to sting you with a ticket! haha

we had the same problems with our b-team recently alot thought that because they are on our senior 'PANEL' they are too good for b football!
13 of that team last night are u21, 3 of them are still minors and james loughran is the only one in that team last night that starts for the seniors!

i would imagine that we would have to same problems gathering up the lads to travel to the likes of clan na gael or ballyhegan, the luck of the draw for us was that our two away games had been short trips to dromintee and mullaghbawn!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 02, 2007, 09:15:46 AM
saran man you are saying that you will struggle against clann eireann due to in house strife???

is that just yourself preparing tullysaran for a fall whenever they are expected to push st. pats or cross to win the championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on August 02, 2007, 09:31:02 AM
Spiritof98, I know your a hurling man, what way did the Armagh minor hurling championship matches go lastnight?
Who are the fancied teams this year, it's an age group I would know little about, is it the usual (Middletown, keady & Cuchulian's) or are Derrynoose up there now as I know they had a good group of lads coming through. Not sure what age they are at the minute though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 02, 2007, 09:39:19 AM
Keady bt Cuchulianns 1-6 to 1-4 in a very tense and exciting game. Cuchuliann's only had one scoring forward in young Coco coulter which probably cost them the game in the end as they were clearly the better allround team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 02, 2007, 10:27:07 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on August 02, 2007, 09:13:43 AM
where did you play last night? was looking for you to sting you with a ticket! haha

we had the same problems with our b-team recently alot thought that because they are on our senior 'PANEL' they are too good for b football!
13 of that team last night are u21, 3 of them are still minors and james loughran is the only one in that team last night that starts for the seniors!

i would imagine that we would have to same problems gathering up the lads to travel to the likes of clan na gael or ballyhegan, the luck of the draw for us was that our two away games had been short trips to dromintee and mullaghbawn!

I lined out in MF but after 10 mins i went into FB to stop the onslaught, i knew we were gonna concede more goals if i didn't drop in there to stop them running thru the middle.

Yes we have that same problem that some of our senior players thing they are to good for B football they forget themselves that they were glad of B football a few years back.

And yes i did get stung for a lotto ticket, we wern't allowed a sandwich after the match if we didn't buy a lotto ticket ;) :D

and my biggest gripe of the whole lot that i forgot to mention earlier. You's charged £2 into a B match WTF, we didn't charge for our home game and Ballyhegan didn't charge when we went to them are you boys on the take :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 02, 2007, 11:32:00 AM
I thought clubs didnt charge into B games?
Maybe Cruppen have to recoup some of the money they invested in these transfers ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on August 02, 2007, 11:37:40 AM
We don't charge for b games either and Tir Na Nog didnt for our last one either
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 02, 2007, 11:47:23 AM
Dick Turpin had the manners to wear a mask, not like that guy on the gate last night :D :D

I asked him why he was charging people in to watch b football and he said it was the county board's decision, they must of only told Carrickcruppin ;). and what was even more embarrassing was the team we had, how could you ask anyone to pay into watch that ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 02, 2007, 12:12:03 PM
dont normally charge into b-games and not sure why there was a gate last night! although i do know that on some matches they do a gate for a local charity so maybe it was for that!

that was the 'infamous judge' selling the lotto tickets you are lucky he didn't hit you with a £10 ticket too! haha

what was up with your keeper last night running round like a headless chicken throwing his weight around slapping we 17 year olds! didn't see him doing it against the bigger more physical players on our team! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 02, 2007, 12:15:37 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on August 02, 2007, 12:12:03 PM
dont normally charge into b-games and not sure why there was a gate last night! although i do know that on some matches they do a gate for a local charity so maybe it was for that!

Aye, course they were :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 02, 2007, 12:21:06 PM
full-back what club are you from?

i cant add on the matter cause i dont know why there was a gate but i will find out tonight, any county development squad matches in cruppen this year there was a gate for the hospice, so i am presuming maybe there was a charge on the gate for it too!

there is no gate taken at any of our b-matches before last night either and im sure any of the ballyhegan or south armagh posters who attended b-games in cruppen can confirm this!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 02, 2007, 12:28:05 PM
Judge told me it wasnt for charity
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mooncatiii on August 02, 2007, 12:34:22 PM
jus out of interest illdecide, what was your team last nite, if u can remember it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 02, 2007, 12:46:02 PM
aye sure judge would know alright!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 02, 2007, 01:55:13 PM
same shit different day then illdecide?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 02, 2007, 02:02:48 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 02, 2007, 01:55:13 PM
same shit different day then illdecide?

Your right son. when do you get back home??I'm sure them Canadian women are well diseased ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 02, 2007, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on August 02, 2007, 12:12:03 PM
dont normally charge into b-games and not sure why there was a gate last night! although i do know that on some matches they do a gate for a local charity so maybe it was for that!

that was the 'infamous judge' selling the lotto tickets you are lucky he didn't hit you with a £10 ticket too! haha

what was up with your keeper last night running round like a headless chicken throwing his weight around slapping we 17 year olds! didn't see him doing it against the bigger more physical players on our team! 

Well diesel i'm sorry our 18 year old was puching your 17 year old >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 02, 2007, 02:23:26 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 02, 2007, 02:02:48 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 02, 2007, 01:55:13 PM
same shit different day then illdecide?

Your right son. when do you get back home??I'm sure them Canadian women are well diseased ;)

wont be back for another three weeks so i'll be no help to your defensive problems (not that i ever was).
So what happened ya's last night then? was soup playing?

big decky throwing the weight around then eh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on August 02, 2007, 02:59:48 PM
i'll decide, was TRYIN to stop men runin through the middle.........exactly TRYIN...

as for the keeper, what was he like picking on the smallest man on the field....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 02, 2007, 03:03:48 PM
18 year old????? my arse!

im 31 and he looks about 10 years older than me!


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 02, 2007, 03:11:22 PM
if it was big decky then he's only 18. he was a minor last year (senior keeper for most of this year).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 02, 2007, 03:16:32 PM
Ah, but you had a tough paper round diesel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 02, 2007, 03:34:01 PM
Quote from: full back on August 02, 2007, 03:16:32 PM
Ah, but you had a tough paper round diesel

That is a weather beaten face alright ;) :D It's ahard old station Diesel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on August 02, 2007, 04:02:29 PM
Quotecrossmaglen v madden

sure why dont the county board give us a hard draw!! is this neutral venue or do we need til travel til cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 02, 2007, 04:50:35 PM
you have to travel to cross leg-end!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 02, 2007, 04:54:44 PM
if mine is a weather beaten face what is '18 year old' deckys like!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: aidanmcg33 on August 02, 2007, 09:36:58 PM
Silverbridge beat keady 2nite by 7 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 02, 2007, 09:45:23 PM
Quote from: aidanmcg33 on August 02, 2007, 09:36:58 PM
Silverbridge beat keady 2nite by 7 points.
Good man aidan, here's me sitting (miles and miles from the bridge :() waiting on the phone to ring  :)

I hear the score was 0-18 to 1-7?

And yet another two week break coming up?  ::)  Sure we are only back from a two week break!
And we wonder why we're squeezing games into the last weeks of October?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Saran Man on August 02, 2007, 10:15:20 PM

saran man you are saying that you will struggle against clann eireann due to in house strife???

is that just yourself preparing tullysaran for a fall whenever they are expected to push st. pats or cross to win the championship

to be honest diesel smuggler i am only going on what i hear from the talk around the club.  It appears some of the players have started to dictate to the managers who should be playing where.  From what i hear the managers are taking a stiff line on this and those that dont tow the line can go. As i say its only the chat i hear, mind you theres a lot expected of this team.  time will tell
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on August 02, 2007, 10:29:46 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 02, 2007, 09:45:23 PM
Quote from: aidanmcg33 on August 02, 2007, 09:36:58 PM
Silverbridge beat keady 2nite by 7 points.
Good man aidan, here's me sitting (miles and miles from the bridge :() waiting on the phone to ring  :)

I hear the score was 0-18 to 1-7?

And yet another two week break coming up?  ::)  Sure we are only back from a two week break!
And we wonder why we're squeezing games into the last weeks of October?

do we not have tones nxt week?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 02, 2007, 10:34:58 PM
Heard we're going to push on and try  to get a fixture with Tones inthemaking, but there is a two week break.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on August 02, 2007, 10:37:25 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 02, 2007, 10:34:58 PM
Heard we're going to push on and try  to get a fixture with Tones inthemaking, but there is a two week break.

sure the break will do no harm with the stag this wkend, and 2 weddings in the nxt 2 wks as well. ws really impressed with the boys 2nite. some great pinnts taken and i thought paudie cumiskey was man of the match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on August 02, 2007, 10:48:20 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 01, 2007, 10:22:07 PM
Even if you consider it progress it's an exception, not the norm, how teams are well beat when they face teams two divisions above them?


You are right Pints, it is not good for any team to get a hammering.  Although sometimes it can be good for the game for a lower league team to pit their wits against a stronger outfit.  I remember in the early 90s Mullaghbawn were too strong league wise for the Intermediate, but kept on getting beat (teams raising their game), but when they got out of it, it pushed them on to not only an Armagh Senior Championship but an Ulster crown as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 02, 2007, 10:52:02 PM
Quote from: inthemaking on August 02, 2007, 10:37:25 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 02, 2007, 10:34:58 PM
Heard we're going to push on and try  to get a fixture with Tones inthemaking, but there is a two week break.

sure the break will do no harm with the stag this wkend, and 2 weddings in the nxt 2 wks as well. ws really impressed with the boys 2nite. some great pinnts taken and i thought paudie cumiskey was man of the match
Heard that they all done well and Paudie was excellent, Niall Traynor put on a display of free taking too?  It's a pity McGarvey had to go off after sunday's display but McCreesh was excellent in the middle of the field?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on August 02, 2007, 10:53:12 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 02, 2007, 08:25:35 AM
I think it would be an afwul long season.  with leagues usually continuing on until nearly october at present squeezing another 10 games in would be too much.

I agree el cuervo fc, if they were to adopt this system either: there would be only 1 round of games, 7 home and 7 away ties, or break each league into 2 tiers with 12-14 games in each.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 03, 2007, 08:36:00 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on August 02, 2007, 04:54:44 PM
if mine is a weather beaten face what is '18 year old' deckys like!


:D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 03, 2007, 12:24:26 PM
Is this thea decky ??? :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 03, 2007, 12:34:53 PM
I have noticed that Johnny McGeeney was playing at left half forward for Cullaville against Wolfe Tones in the IFC semi-final last Friday night.
How did this come, as he was sent off in the Culloville v Clan Na Gael ACL game the previous week with a STRAIGHT RED CARD?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue is the colour on August 03, 2007, 01:10:08 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on August 03, 2007, 12:34:53 PM
I have noticed that Johnny McGeeney was playing at left half forward for Cullaville against Wolfe Tones in the IFC semi-final last Friday night.
How did this come, as he was sent off in the Culloville v Clan Na Gael ACL game the previous week with a STRAIGHT RED CARD?


Firstly it was against Mullaghbawn, and he got 2 yellow cards both for giving out 2 d reff not a STRAIGHT RED so he was able 2 play anainst the tones
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 03, 2007, 01:29:14 PM
Quote from: Blue is the colour on August 03, 2007, 01:10:08 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on August 03, 2007, 12:34:53 PM
I have noticed that Johnny McGeeney was playing at left half forward for Cullaville against Wolfe Tones in the IFC semi-final last Friday night.
How did this come, as he was sent off in the Culloville v Clan Na Gael ACL game the previous week with a STRAIGHT RED CARD?


Firstly it was against Mullaghbawn, and he got 2 yellow cards both for giving out 2 d reff not a STRAIGHT RED so he was able 2 play anainst the tones
An interesting post on orchardcounty about it...
QuoteHaving watched the Tones match last night i was suprised and annoyed to see John McGeeney play after being sent off with a straight red card last sunday against Mullaghbawn. This is down to the unbelievable pressure from a certain individual within the Cullaville club. He was supposed to have entered the referees dressing room at least three times after the game, and then continued his crusade throughout the week.
It is hard enough to get refs without them being put under this kind of pressure. What effect is this going to have on refs, when their decision isnt final?
A cullaville supporter informed me that this has happened 3 times with this player in the last two seasons. So is this having a good effect on this player as he probably thinks he is immune from suspension and can do what ever he likes on the field, just because some members of his club have a bit of clought at county board level.
Im not after a replay for the Tones(we were beaten fairly on the night), But this is very dangerous for our game and is the reason i am bringing it up.

It wouldnt be the first time this year a team has played a banned player in the intermediate championship but there doesn't seem to be any punishment.


Hey Illdecide you might want to head over to the "Teamsheets" topic and answer a few queries, I hear you Clanns boys are experts on how they should be presented   :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue is the colour on August 03, 2007, 01:38:50 PM
Pints i didnt know about that post, it makes it interesting surly, but what happened on the day was that he was CLEARLY given 2 yellow cards at different occasions during the 2nd half (this ref was a clown im sure Mullaghbawn supporters will agree) (ask tigger from 100.5fm he was broadcasting lol) so i dont see how he could have been suspended
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nabman on August 03, 2007, 01:49:56 PM

A club shouldn't be given the right of a championship status because they've a history there.  How long will Ballymacnab and Granemore be in the senior championship and would you consider them "senior" clubs?  They may have won the intermediate but they're poor division 2 teams.  It doesn't make sense.   


pinyofguiness - i agree with what most of your saying, but to say that ballymacnab ang granemore arent justified to be playing senior champ is a load of shite. we are both there on merit as we we actually won the championship in the last few years. when was the last time the bridge won anything!! granemore wer only defeated by 3 points by a good killeavy side so they have proved they are quite capble to play senior grade. as for the nab, we probably will find it very tough against the ogs, but we ar missing 5 starting players from the start of last year due to serious injury and others away travelling, so its just more about experience this year. in all serious, i cant see anyone competing with cross anyway... so should we just award them the senior champ and let everyone else play in the intermediate!! i think u shud worry about ur own teams championship performances (espicially getting beat an average st peters side) before you keep harping on about other teams!! at the end of the day league football is the day to day part of the game, but the championship is where it really matters, and quite frankly in the past few years, silverbridge havent produced it when it counts most.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 03, 2007, 02:32:00 PM
FFS nabman, what are you playing at slagging the Bridge?

Heads for the hills young man, head for the hills...............
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 03, 2007, 02:34:57 PM
Pints i know nothing about team sheets, thats what the club secretary is for. ;) ;) Me no speak English.

By the way Pints just heard some breaking news (hope it's not old news to you South Armagh men) Kieran McGeeney is coming back to play for Mullaghbawn for the last 2 years of his football career.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 03, 2007, 02:37:40 PM
ill decide, yous lot play madden the year in the b's? any word on how they did against ballyhegan?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 03, 2007, 02:58:26 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on August 03, 2007, 02:37:40 PM
ill decide, yous lot play madden the year in the b's? any word on how they did against ballyhegan?

I don't know man, usually the results pop here. Or you will prob get them on the "Orchard County" web site. I don't like that Orchard county so i never go on it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: jungle on August 03, 2007, 03:11:15 PM
Was at the keady v Bridge game and have to say i was very impressed with the shooting of the bridge forwards would have liked to have seen the stats on wides they hit as i dont recall many. They are a small side but very fit and their nr 8 never stopped running (mc avoy i think). Fair play to them on winning this game and keeping their discipline while our fellas got frustrated with the ref. Making of a good side but perphaps need a few more physical players. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: heurebag on August 03, 2007, 05:32:58 PM
mc geeney is a legend, he shud last for another couple of years
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 03, 2007, 07:36:35 PM
Quote from: heurebag on August 03, 2007, 05:32:58 PM
mc geeney is a legend, he shud last for another couple of years

did you just blow in from orchardcounty?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on August 03, 2007, 07:57:18 PM
well pints, wat is it with u and ballymacnab and granemore?

U jealous that they are both playing senior cship teams and sliverbridge arent?  silverbridge are not capable of playing in the senior chsip anyway getting beat by st peters in this yrs cship, quite frankly i dnt think the bridge are a cship team r have the balls to win the intermediate never mind play in the senior especially if you say when ballymacnab sudnt be there - they beat you last yr in the cship didnt they???

i also feel that to do well in any cship u need to have all your best players available, ballymacnab doesnt have this at present due to few lads travellin so this yr will be a learning curve, but what bout the bridge were there best players are getting transfers away from the club!! ie. C Conlon???

personally pints i think ur talkin a load of shite!! n enuf of the laidin in2 ballymacnab n granemore!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 03, 2007, 08:14:00 PM
Nab Man
Quotepinyofguiness - i agree with what most of your saying, but to say that ballymacnab ang granemore arent justified to be playing senior champ is a load of shite. we are both there on merit as we we actually won the championship in the last few years. when was the last time the bridge won anything!! granemore wer only defeated by 3 points by a good killeavy side so they have proved they are quite capble to play senior grade. as for the nab, we probably will find it very tough against the ogs, but we ar missing 5 starting players from the start of last year due to serious injury and others away travelling, so its just more about experience this year. in all serious, i cant see anyone competing with cross anyway... so should we just award them the senior champ and let everyone else play in the intermediate!! i think u shud worry about ur own teams championship performances (espicially getting beat an average st peters side) before you keep harping on about other teams!! at the end of the day league football is the day to day part of the game, but the championship is where it really matters, and quite frankly in the past few years, silverbridge havent produced it when it counts most.

Oh dear I've hit a nerve. 
Yes both Ballymacnab and Granemore have won the intermediate.  Granemore have made no impact at senior level and I don't think Ballymacnab will either, can I assume that you will both step down a grade if you continue to have no impact or do you like the title of senior club too much?  That is the problem! Teams win the intermediate and won't go back down a grade even when senior is clearly too much for them.  I'm sorry if this seems harsh, it is genuinely never my intention to put the boot into any club or have a dig at them (apart from maybe some of the neighbours) and I would love to see either clubs (or both) prove me wrong. 
It's really irrelevant if Granemore came within three points of Killeavy, that is evidence that they can up their game.  If Granemore were really 3 points behind Killeavy they'd be pushing for promotion to division 1.   
It's an interesting point you raise there, would teams rather do well in the championship or league?  I know at the end of last year I would rather see the Bridge go into the promotion playoffs, having been beaten in the semi final of the championship than if they won the championship and were struggling to stay in division 2!  Maybe that's just me though. 

Fullback
QuoteFFS nabman, what are you playing at slagging the Bridge?

Heads for the hills young man, head for the hills...............
:) Made me laugh that, and you don't think I've a sense of humour!


Jungle
QuoteWas at the keady v Bridge game and have to say i was very impressed with the shooting of the bridge forwards would have liked to have seen the stats on wides they hit as i dont recall many. They are a small side but very fit and their nr 8 never stopped running (mc avoy i think). Fair play to them on winning this game and keeping their discipline while our fellas got frustrated with the ref. Making of a good side but perphaps need a few more physical players.
Aye that would have been Cormac McAvoy.  The team is very fit, and some of the lads cover a serious amount of ground but Cormac's fitness is exceptional it really is no exaggeration to say he never stops!  He knows how too use it which is the main thing. 


Downtown
Quotewell pints, wat is it with u and ballymacnab and granemore?
Just making a point...

QuoteU jealous that they are both playing senior cship teams and sliverbridge arent?
:D 

Quotesilverbridge are not capable of playing in the senior chsip anyway getting beat by st peters in this yrs cship,
No arguments here.

Quotequite frankly i dnt think the bridge are a cship team r have the balls to win the intermediate never mind play in the senior especially if you say when ballymacnab sudnt be there
Your thoughts are noted.

Quotethey beat you last yr in the cship didnt they???
They did yes, and from what I've experienced of their players and supporters (in league and championship) they're a good bunch and I'd  love to see them do well.

Quotebut what bout the bridge were there best players are getting transfers away from the club!! ie. C Conlon???
Best players transfering?  I only know Ciaran Conlon is no longer playing for us. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 03, 2007, 09:27:18 PM
Heard Clans lost another player tonight.
Anyone confirm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 03, 2007, 10:48:26 PM
They're clearly going for some sort of record.


any results from tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 03, 2007, 11:36:17 PM
im sure clans man and county chairman kevin brady will conveniently make sure that the referee's report gets lost in the post just like the report sent from the referee who officiated them and whitecross! haha

you would need to be up early for them clans men!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 03, 2007, 11:38:29 PM
Where yous not playing tonight DS?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 03, 2007, 11:45:10 PM
yeah beat st.peters 3-14 to 0-7

ref blew it up early on the advice of st. peters players!

they said to him if cruppen go more than 15 points in the lead blow it early and he did!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 03, 2007, 11:48:48 PM
Are you serious?
How early?

You have to be taking the piss.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 03, 2007, 11:51:15 PM
there would have been a good 5 or 6 minutes left!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on August 04, 2007, 12:20:12 AM
We got beat by Clan Eirean tonight 2-11 to 3-4 mind you our last two scores were goals.  Have to say both sides would agree that the ref had an exceptional game although he did miss a boxing match between two clan eirean forwards and two of our defenders, all four of whom should have walked although he probably didnt see it and after discussing it with the umpires decided to take no action.  (Probably because each umpire would have contradicted the other)  One of the clan eirean players involved had already been booked seemed to swap shirts at half time and i cant be certain but i think the player wearing that number got booked again.

Jimmy Byrne was excellent for Clan Eirean and made a big difference in the game

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on August 04, 2007, 08:40:53 AM
Harps drew with Cullaville up there, thats all I know, worked late lst night and in early this morning
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 04, 2007, 11:46:53 AM

Killeavy stuffed Granemore. Hickey, Stevie Mc and full forward Doran excellent.

It came at a cost though with Stanfield getting a straight red.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sturganbrae on August 04, 2007, 12:38:10 PM
Have seen Silverbridge on a couple of occasions this year.  I dont think they would hack it in Div. 1.  So better a championship win than promotion anytime!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 04, 2007, 12:47:23 PM
QuoteHave seen Silverbridge on a couple of occasions this year.  I dont think they would hack it in Div. 1.  So better a championship win than promotion anytime!!!
I never said promotion over a championship win, I said better league postion but maybe it's just me.
I don't think we're strong enough for division 1 yet but out of interest when did you see them play?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on August 04, 2007, 07:33:49 PM
any1 know when and where the u-16 division 2 + 4 semi-finals will be played
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 04, 2007, 08:24:55 PM
Any word of the result for Mullabawn and Dromintee ACL game which was due to take place this evening (Sat) at 5.00pm?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 04, 2007, 09:03:55 PM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E FRIDAY 3 AUGUST 2007


Wednesday 1 August

ACL – Div. II
Ballymacnab 1-6; St Michael's 2-8

ACL – Div. III
An Port Mor 0-12; Tullysaran 0-9

ACL – Div. IV
Derrynoose 0-9; Forkhill 0-9


Thursday 2 August

ACL – Div. II
Keady 1-7; Silverbridge 0-18


Friday 3 August

ACL – Div. I
Whitecross 2-10; Clan na Gael 1-14
Culloville 0-13; Harps 0-13
Crossmaglen v Maghery (Off)
Tir na nÓg v Pearse Og (Off)

ACL – Div. II
St Peter's 0-7; Carrickcruppen 3-15
Annaghmore 3-4; Clann Eireann 2-11
Killeavey 2-10; Granemore 0-10
St Patrick's 2-15; Wolfe Tones 0-9

ACL – Div. III
St Paul's 1-5; Clonmore 0-6
Ballyhegan 0-11; Collegeland 1-9
Madden 1-12; Crossmaglen II 1-6
Clady v Middletown (Off)
Lissummon 0-14; Sarsfields 2-14

ACL – Div. IV
Dorsey Emmett's 0-5; Belleek 1-14
Derrynoose 1-16; Corrinshego 1-10
Grange 1-6; Forkhill 1-2
Phelim Brady's 0-9; O'Hanlon's 1-9
Eire Og v Shane O'Neill's (Off)


ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 11 10 0 1 20
Mullaghbawn 13 7 2 4 16
Dromintee 12 7 1 4 15
Maghery 12 7 1 4 15
Pearse Og 12 7 1 4 15
Clan na Gael 13 5 2 6 12
Harps 13 5 2 6 12
Whitecross 12 4 0 8 8
Culloville 13 3 2 8 8
Tir na nÓg 13 1 1 11 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
Killeavey 15 11 1 3 23
St Patrick's 11 10 0 1 20
Silverbridge 13 9 1 3 19
St Michael's 14 8 3 3 19
Carrickcruppen 10 7 0 3 14
Clann Eireann 11 6 0 5 12
Ballymacnab 15 6 0 9 12
Granemore 10 5 0 5 10
Keady 13 3 1 9 7
Wolfe Tones 12 2 2 8 6
Annaghmore 13 2 0 11 4
St Peter's 13 2 0 11 4

Division III
P W D L Pts
Madden 13 12 0 1 24
An Port Mor 12 10 0 2 20
Sarsfields 12 10 0 2 20
Collegeland 12 7 1 4 15
Lissummon 14 7 1 6 15
Tullysaran 13 5 2 6 12
Clonmore 15 5 0 10 10
St Paul's 11 4 1 6 9
Ballyhegan 11 4 0 7 8
Middletown 7 2 0 5 4
Clady 12 1 2 9 4
Crossmaglen II 12 1 1 10 3

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Belleek 12 10 0 2 20
Grange 12 8 1 2 19
Dorsey Emmett's 13 7 2 4 16
Shane O'Neill's 10 6 2 2 14
Derrynoose 11 6 2 3 14
Eire Og 12 7 0 5 14
Forkhill 13 6 1 6 13
Mullaghbrack 11 6 0 5 12
O'Hanlon's 13 4 2 7 10
Corrinshego 13 1 0 12 2
Phelim Brady's 14 0 0 14 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 05, 2007, 06:51:19 PM
against cruppen,killeavy and st pats pints.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 05, 2007, 07:37:45 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on August 05, 2007, 06:51:19 PM
against cruppen,killeavy and st pats pints.
What?
Or are you talking for other people now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on August 05, 2007, 10:28:29 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on August 03, 2007, 02:37:40 PM
ill decide, yous lot play madden the year in the b's? any word on how they did against ballyhegan?

madden b's won both matches against ballyhegan this week. they beat them by 3points in the all county league on wednesday and by 4points tonight in the mid armagh cup.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 06, 2007, 03:47:30 AM
Diesel smuggler with what are you refering to when you say there was 5 or 6 mins left?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 06, 2007, 09:20:49 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on August 03, 2007, 11:36:17 PM
im sure clans man and county chairman kevin brady will conveniently make sure that the referee's report gets lost in the post just like the report sent from the referee who officiated them and whitecross! haha

you would need to be up early for them clans men!

It's good to hear this stuff on a Monday morning. First thing we had a good win over Whitecross on Fri night the 1 point win did not do us justice we played them of the park for long periods but fair play to them they battled back and only for a bad decision by Paudie Hughes to give them a penalty in the last minute (He had a good game with the exception of the penalty) we would have won more comfortable. ;)

Second the ref's report for the last game you refeer to did not go missing it obviously did not contain what you were hoping for ;) ;D and by the way K Brady would do Cross a favour b4 he would do the Clans one. FACT!!!

And third we had another man sent of in the last minute and rightly so, and the fella who was sent off is a coward who lifted his hand prob out of frustation for being shite on the night (or all year to be FRANK!!!) and just to let you know because i'm sure you'll hear anyway our B's had a guy sent of yesterday as well again his was a frustation one as he was keek too
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: upthecrups on August 06, 2007, 10:29:38 AM
Quote
"Diesel smuggler with what are you refering to when you say there was 5 or 6 mins left?"

I think this is self explanitory!!

On another note.  What were the county board thinking in assigning Gary Smith (tir na og referee) to referee this game when cruppen are to meet portydown in the championship in the next few weeks.  ??? At least he had the sense to ask another ref to do the game, whom by the way had a decent enough game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 06, 2007, 11:41:54 AM
up the crups, it is self explanatory but what game was he refering to?
??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: upthecrups on August 06, 2007, 12:02:08 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on August 03, 2007, 11:45:10 PM
yeah beat st.peters 3-14 to 0-7

ref blew it up early on the advice of st. peters players!

they said to him if cruppen go more than 15 points in the lead blow it early and he did!

Winsamsoon - this is diesals orignal post.  Don't thik there is anywhere that would make you think it was any game other than the cruppen, st peters one! ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on August 06, 2007, 12:59:04 PM
fixtures from 7th aug - 14th aug

Linwoods Mid Armagh

Tues Aug 7th @ 6.45pm Linwoods U-14 Div 4 Semi Final (ET if Req'd)
Middletown v Ballyhegan - K Gallogly

Tues Aug 7th @ 7.30pm Linwoods U-18 League
Ballymacnab v Tullysaran - P Duffy

Thurs Aug 9th @ 7.30pm Linwoods U-16 Div 4 semi final (ET if Req'd)
Abbey Pk Grange v An Port Mor - P Rath
Madden Madden OFF Middletown

Sat Aug 11th @ 4.0pm Linwoods U-12 Go Games League
Section B
Madden v Harps - D Nugent
Ballymacnab v Derrynoose - N Clifford

Sun Aug 12th @ 12.30pm Linwoods U-14 Div 2 Semi Final (ET if Req'd)
Grange v Harps - T O'Hare

Mon Aug 13th @ 7.15pm Linwoods U-18 League
Section B
Ballyhegan v Derrynoose - K Gallogly

Tues Aug 14 @ 7.15pm Linwoods U-14 Div 2 Final (ET if Req'd)
Tullysaran v Middletown / Ballyhegan - T O'Hare
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MrTaylor on August 06, 2007, 03:17:29 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 03, 2007, 02:34:57 PM


By the way Pints just heard some breaking news (hope it's not old news to you South Armagh men) Kieran McGeeney is coming back to play for Mullaghbawn for the last 2 years of his football career.

That'll be in another 5 or 6 years then!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 06, 2007, 05:07:36 PM
can only comment on the games i have seen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2007, 05:23:34 PM
if you seen cruppen game why were you asking on here after it if conlon was playing?

I also notice our ballymacnab contingent didn't come back  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 06, 2007, 07:35:36 PM
who or what is the nab contingent pints
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 06, 2007, 07:43:12 PM
oh and by the way i saw second half of cruppen game and cc wasn,t on then ,thought maybe he was whipping boy again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2007, 07:45:14 PM
Whipping boy again?  ???

::)


Nab contingent is the two posters posting on friday and talking shite about the bridge, you'd like them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 06, 2007, 07:47:38 PM
yer brave and good at the shite yerself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on August 06, 2007, 07:54:05 PM
Pints, tell me this.... Brendan and Eugene Byrne in your team, are they brothers? Are they any relation to Kevin Byrne? I heard they are two fine footballers, Kevin wasn't so bad himself in his day!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2007, 08:04:40 PM
Charlie, I'd back up anything I say, either by PM or on here.
You certainly can't say the same. 

Quote from: nashville on August 06, 2007, 07:54:05 PM
Pints, tell me this.... Brendan and Eugene Byrne in your team, are they brothers? Are they any relation to Kevin Byrne? I heard they are two fine footballers, Kevin wasn't so bad himself in his day!
Aye, brothers and sons of Kevin.  Two great footballers (good lads too), brendan is half forward, Eugene is corner forward, only 20 and 18 I think.  Heading in the oul boy's footsteps alright and probably will out do him!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on August 07, 2007, 08:23:32 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E MONDAY 13 AUGUST 2007


Tuesday 7 August

ACL – Div. I (7.30)
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn (Malachy McNicholl)

ACL – Div. II (7.30)
St Patrick's v Granemore (Gary Smith)


Wednesday 8 August

All-County 'B' League – Group A (7.30)
Silverbridge v Killeavey (Dessie McDonnell)
An Port Mor v Pearse Og (Sean McClatchey)
Tir na nÓg v Granemore (Stephen Murray)

All-County 'B' League – Group B (7.30)
Mullaghbawn v Carrickcruppen (Vincent O'Neill)
Madden v Clan na Gael (Jimmy McKee)
Dromintee v Ballyhegan (Noel Martin)


Thursday 9 August

All-County Under-16 League – Group A (7.30)
Ballymacnab v Clann Eireann (Joe Murtagh)
Wolfe Tones v Harps (Damian McConville)

All-County Under-16 League – Group B (7.30)
Granemore v Killeavey (Noel Martin)


Saturday 11 August

All-County 'B' League – Group A (7.00)
Granemore v An Port Mor (Paudie Hughes)

All-County Under-16 League – Group A (7.00)
St Patrick's v Wolfe Tones (Oliver Hearty)

All-County Under-16 League – Group B (7.00)
Keady v Crossmaglen (Paul Rath)


Sunday 12 August

Armagh Junior Football Championship Final (7.00)
Clady v Collegeland (Kevin Murtagh) at Abbey Park

Armagh 'B' Football Championship Final (5.00)
Maghery v St Patrick's (Paul Boylan) at Abbey Park

ACL – Div. II (12.00)
Silverbridge v Wolfe Tones (Seamus O'Neill)


Monday 13 August

Armagh Minor Football Championship Quarter-Finals (7.30)
Oliver Plunkett's v Granemore (Kevin McNeice)
Clann Eireann v Tullysaran (Dessie McDonnell)
Carrickcruppen v St Patrick's (Brendan Gorman)
Crossmaglen v Madden (Stephen Murray)

MFC Notes
1st named teams have Home advantage
Extra Time, if necessary, in all games
Mullaghbawn is the named Home pitch for Oliver Plunkett's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 07, 2007, 11:37:12 AM
I see jimmy mc kee is down to ref the clans b game with madden. This will be the first he has officiated over since the wee bollox robbed us against dromintee a few years back in the senior championship. It will be interesting to see if he is the one who actually does it. It will also be interesting to see how he performs, if he does do it. Crups features, i didn't see the original post so i was a little confused as to which game ie cruppen or clans, that the guy was speaking of. I think he could have clarified that for me instead of you butting in with your shite sracasm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MrTaylor on August 07, 2007, 12:09:54 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 07, 2007, 11:37:12 AM
I see jimmy mc kee is down to ref the clans b game with madden. This will be the first he has officiated over since the wee bollox robbed us against dromintee a few years back in the senior championship.

Typical Clans. Jimmy McKee's fault you lost against Dromintee. Can you name all the other wee bollix who have robbed you since you last won the championship in 1994?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on August 07, 2007, 12:32:34 PM

Boo Hoo

Its a matter of record that the team that scores the most deserve to win the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: upthecrups on August 07, 2007, 01:04:41 PM
Dry yours eyes winsamsoon!!  I was answering your question for you. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 07, 2007, 01:17:26 PM
i was trying to get our game with Madden changed to Thurs night insted of tomorrow night but to no avail. Jimmy my old buddy is referee, i'll have to bring the wallet. O sorry i was not meant to say that, i mean the team sheets :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on August 07, 2007, 01:19:13 PM

Here's a novel idea for the clans... bring fifteen muzzles and a few footballers with you
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nabman on August 07, 2007, 01:33:30 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2007, 07:45:14 PM
Whipping boy again?  ???

::)


Nab contingent is the two posters posting on friday and talking shite about the bridge, you'd like them.
[/quote}

Pints, some of us have better things to do than sit on this all day!! do u even play football or just know everything about it?? as for slagging the bridge, i didnt mean for it 2 come across like that as i think the bridge are probably the best bunch of lads in the 2nd division.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 07, 2007, 01:55:33 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on August 07, 2007, 01:19:13 PM

Here's a novel idea for the clans... bring fifteen muzzles and a few footballers with you

fifteen muzzles would be a good idea for yourselves to Aghdavoyle.... and thats just for Cathal!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on August 07, 2007, 02:01:14 PM

Good one

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 07, 2007, 02:19:23 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on August 07, 2007, 01:19:13 PM

Here's a novel idea for the clans... bring fifteen muzzles and a few footballers with you

when yous lads come to Davitt next wed night we'll have the muzzles off alright. Eating face O Rourke wouldn't play B football anyway so the sarnies after the game should stretch a bit further :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on August 07, 2007, 04:45:42 PM
Quotewhen yous lads come to Davitt next wed night we'll have the muzzles off alright. Eating face O Rourke wouldn't play B football anyway so the sarnies after the game should stretch a bit further 

dont think u should be slaggin anyone after the shape of u runnin around cruppen last wk like a headless chicken :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 07, 2007, 05:16:33 PM
Well we did win it in 1994 then came mullaghbawn followed by the cross so as far as i am aware the only ones who should be taunting the clans, should be the lads from the Cross. Like wtf have Dromitee ever won lol. Cullyhanna???? Silverbridge ??? the list just gets funnier. At the moment he clans are every bit as good as any of these teams. You guys can get carried away with the monosity of your own bo bosity but when it boils down to it we are still the second most successful team in Armagh football. I will give the harps credit and of course the cross but i really don't know where these other clubs have got their arrogance.   On the issue of referees, we have already had the argument about how a ref can spoil a game so i won't get into it again. On the issue of muzzles well as lurganblue has already stated cathal (who could smoke a fag in the shower) and little martin would need a set made of reinforced steel.They also had a little encounter with inocent jimmy a while back if i am not mistaken.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 07, 2007, 05:56:44 PM
QuoteDromitee ever won lol. Cullyhanna?Huh Silverbridge Huh the list just gets funnier. At the moment he clans are every bit as good as any of these teams. You guys can get carried away with the monosity of your own bo bosity but when it boils down to it we are still the second most successful team in Armagh football. I will give the harps credit and of course the cross but i really don't know where these other clubs have got their arrogance.
What the f**k are you talking about?

nabman
QuotePints, some of us have better things to do than sit on this all day!! do u even play football or just know everything about it?? as for slagging the bridge, i didnt mean for it 2 come across like that as i think the bridge are probably the best bunch of lads in the 2nd division.
I was hoping you could come back and we could have sensible craic  but I can see that's unlikely.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 07, 2007, 07:07:50 PM
I tell you what Winsamsoon, sure when Dromintee are next down go and tell Cathal and Martin this and we'll set what your own set is like.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on August 07, 2007, 07:43:50 PM
Anyone going to watch the hurlers in croker this saturday? It could be the last chance we have to see armagh in croke park for a while!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 07, 2007, 07:50:26 PM
def going this weekend simple .any thing 4 craic.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 07, 2007, 10:38:30 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2007, 07:07:50 PM
I tell you what Winsamsoon, sure when Dromintee are next down go and tell Cathal and Martin this and we'll set what your own set is like.

good one corn we'll set what your own set is like.  :D :D :D :D plus you still haven't told me what they have won. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 07, 2007, 10:41:23 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 07, 2007, 10:38:30 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2007, 07:07:50 PM
I tell you what Winsamsoon, sure when Dromintee are next down go and tell Cathal and Martin this and we'll set what your own set is like.

good one corn we'll set what your own set is like.  :D :D :D :D plus you still haven't told me what they have won. ???
You still havent answered my question either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 07, 2007, 10:43:46 PM
Sorry pints i forgot to reply to you. I am talkin about this arrogance displayed by the posters in particular of Cullyhanna, silverbridge and particularly Dromintee heads. I know i know before you say it "the clans are the most arrogant" i have been listenig to that shite for years. The difference is we won things when we were supposed to have good teams. The above teams have won nothing yet, the guys on this board speak like they had cub all Irelands in their back pockets.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 07, 2007, 10:46:55 PM
What arrogance from the bridge posters? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 07, 2007, 10:48:38 PM
I will allow you to site them, maybe a few of the dromintee guys will give you a hand from the bandwagon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 07, 2007, 10:56:03 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 07, 2007, 10:48:38 PM
I will allow you to site them, maybe a few of the dromintee guys will give you a hand from the bandwagon.
what are you talking about? 
You're the one making allegations about arrogance you go and back them up or is it more Lurgan against south armagh mentality?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 08, 2007, 08:56:53 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 07, 2007, 10:56:03 PM
what are you talking about? 
You're the one making allegations about arrogance you go and back them up or is it more Lurgan against south armagh mentality?

This is how the inferiority complex manifests itself...

they haven't beaten anyone credible in the championship in years
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 08, 2007, 09:19:17 AM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on August 07, 2007, 04:45:42 PM
Quotewhen yous lads come to Davitt next wed night we'll have the muzzles off alright. Eating face O Rourke wouldn't play B football anyway so the sarnies after the game should stretch a bit further 

dont think u should be slaggin anyone after the shape of u runnin around cruppen last wk like a headless chicken :D :D

First thing first i know Cruppin beat us easily and i said that on the board but your getting into something different here when you start personal insults, now i know i may not be in the best of shape (1 stone overweight) but i tell you what when i moved into full back after Cruppin scored their goal i don't recall any other goals scored ;) and second you say i was running around like a headless chicken well maybe so but at least i wasn't running around like a gutless Ba****d ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 08, 2007, 09:23:28 AM
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2007, 07:07:50 PM
I tell you what Winsamsoon, sure when Dromintee are next down go and tell Cathal and Martin this and we'll set what your own set is like.

Hi Corn can i tell eating face O'Rourke to his face
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MrTaylor on August 08, 2007, 10:53:50 AM
Real interesting reading on this thread! The "Gaels" of Armagh spending their time trading personal insults about Cathal O'Rourke who served Armagh so well for a decade, while it appears only two of them are going to attend Nicky Rackard Final on Saturday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 08, 2007, 10:53:58 AM
You can illdecide and sure see what happens.

THe Clans talk about arrogance well I would rather we be arrogant than a pack of wee yappy crying bastards who whinge about everything. Face it lads yous are the Down of Armagh Club Football, always stuck in the past.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 08, 2007, 11:35:45 AM

Eh, i'm going to the nicky rackard final too. i didn't realise i had to post it on this thread for approval
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MrTaylor on August 08, 2007, 11:39:59 AM
Eh, who is offering approval?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 08, 2007, 11:44:30 AM

you're certainly offering diapproval for those who haven't stated they are going
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 08, 2007, 11:45:33 AM
Mr taylor i will be in croke park on saturday to watch the hurlers playing.

THe Clans talk about arrogance well I would rather we be arrogant than a pack of wee yappy crying bastards who whinge about everything. Face it lads yous are the Down of Armagh Club Football, always stuck in the past.
[/quote]

If i am not mistaken Down had a lot of success too on the football field??? There is a common theme running through all of the posts on this thread. This is a jealousy of any team that is, or was successful. This can only be attributed to the fact that the people involved in the shite talk have never won anything at all. well maybe the u-12 championship or something. I would congratulate  a down team for winning an All Irleand. Congratulate a Cross team for achieveing the same feat. I will watch the hurling on sat and then cheer for Derry as they are an Ulster county. I also cheered for Tyrone last saturday. If Dromintee won the county final the year i would congratulate them. I wouldn't sit back and gripe about stupid issues why Dromintee shouldn't have won a championship. As a clans man i am entitled to my opinion and i realise this is sometimes clouded by bias ( as we all are). However it is not based on a jealousy of other clubs. which in my mind is the only reason the clans are hated by teams that have won next to nothing in their existance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MrTaylor on August 08, 2007, 11:56:28 AM
you're certainly offering diapproval for those who haven't stated they are going.

No, just to those who would proclaim to be Gaels and have stated they aren't going.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 08, 2007, 12:25:35 PM
Quote from: MrTaylor on August 08, 2007, 11:56:28 AM
you're certainly offering diapproval for those who haven't stated they are going.

No, just to those who would proclaim to be Gaels and have stated they aren't going.

Bit of a knobhead post(s), questioning anyone's 'credentials' on the strength of you going to a national final :-[ Top gael alright.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 08, 2007, 12:38:17 PM
Aren't we all a little narky today...

winsamsoon
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If i am not mistaken Down had a lot of success too on the football field??? There is a common theme running through all of the posts on this thread. This is a jealousy of any team that is, or was successful. This can only be attributed to the fact that the people involved in the shite talk have never won anything at all. well maybe the u-12 championship or something. I would congratulate  a down team for winning an All Irleand. Congratulate a Cross team for achieveing the same feat. I will watch the hurling on sat and then cheer for Derry as they are an Ulster county. I also cheered for Tyrone last saturday. If Dromintee won the county final the year i would congratulate them. I wouldn't sit back and gripe about stupid issues why Dromintee shouldn't have won a championship. As a clans man i am entitled to my opinion and i realise this is sometimes clouded by bias ( as we all are). However it is not based on a jealousy of other clubs. which in my mind is the only reason the clans are hated by teams that have won next to nothing in their existance.
I can't tell you how I laughed at that post. 
A common theme running through this thread is jealousy?
I suppose asking you to provide us with examples is a waste of time.   ::)

As somone who couldn't really care what Clanns do can I say it's people like you, with your attitude, that make yous disliked. 

Illdecide c'mon here and talk some sense to your club man!

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Real interesting reading on this thread! The "Gaels" of Armagh spending their time trading personal insults about Cathal O'Rourke who served Armagh so well for a decade, while it appears only two of them are going to attend Nicky Rackard Final on Saturday.
::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on August 08, 2007, 12:48:40 PM
tables

U-14 LEAGUE

SECTION A P W D L Pts
PEARSE OG 10 9 1 0 19
CEIDE 10 7 1 2 15
HARPS 10 6 0 4 12
GRANGE 10 4 0 6 8
BALLYMACNAB 10 3 0 7 6


U-14 LEAGUE

SECTION B P W D L Pts
DERRYNOOSE 10 10 0 0 20
BALLYHEGAN 10 7 0 3 14
TULLYSARAN 10 4 0 6 8
MADDEN 10 3 1 6 7
MIDDLETOWN 10 3 1 6 7
GRANEMORE 10 2 0 8 4

U-16 LEAGUE

SECTION A P W D L Pts
HARPS 10 9 0 1 18
CEIDE 10 8 0 2 16
BALLYMACNAB 10 6 0 4 12
GRANEMORE 10 4 0 6 8
TULLYSARAN 10 2 0 8 4
PEARSE OG 10 1 0 9 2

U-16 LEAGUE

SECTION B P W D L Pts
BALLYHEGAN 10 8 0 2 16
MIDDLETOWN 10 6 1 3 13
AN PORT MOR 10 5 1 4 11
GRANGE 10 5 1 4 11
MADDEN 10 3 1 6 7
DERRYNOOSE 10 0 2 8 2

U-18 LEAGUE

SECTION A P W D L Pts
PEARSE OG 9 6 2 1 14
TULLYSARAN 8 6 1 1 13
GRANEMORE 9 3 2 4 8
HARPS 9 3 1 5 7
MIDDLETOWN 9 4 0 5 8
BALLYMACNAB 8 1 0 7 2

U-18 LEAGUE

SECTION B P W D L Pts
CEIDE 9 8 0 1 16
MADDEN 9 6 0 3 12
St ENDA'S 9 4 1 4 9
BALLYHEGAN 8 4 0 4 8
DERRYNOOSE 8 2 0 6 4
CLADAI 9 1 1 7 3

B LEAGUE P W D L Pts

GRANEMORE 10 9 0 1 18
BALLYHEGAN 10 8 0 2 16
MADDEN 10 7 0 3 14
AN PORT MOR 10 7 0 3 14
PEARSE OG 10 7 0 3 14
HARPS 10 5 1 4 11
CEIDE 10 4 1 5 9
BALLYMACNAB 10 3 0 7 6
MULLABRACK 10 2 0 8 4
MIDDLETOWN 10 1 0 9 2
CLADAI 10 1 0 9 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 08, 2007, 01:37:22 PM
Have to agree with POG here :o

Like himself I dont care what Clans do - but the likes of winsam enhances peoples' opinion that Clans are arrogant, therefore are happy to see them beat.
Illdecide should slap a bit of sense in winsam, (after he is finished with COR)  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 08, 2007, 02:20:37 PM
you see but i have heard that the clans are an arrogant shire and this has been played out to the hilt. Pog i can't sit here all day my friend and look for little examples of how people have insulted the clans and be petty about wee spellings and other things. Since the board has begun (including the old one) there has been many examples of certain individuals poking insults at the clans ( and many other clubs but i can only defend my own). To date i haven't been able to find any reason for this. The only one that makes sense is the jealousy factor. If you claim not care what the clans do or even if you accept a hatred of the clans could you please tell me the reasons behind it. I have my theory but i would just be interested in hearing the views of the rest of ya's so i can rule the jealousy one out. Please spare me the yappy, crying, whinging, bastards one. We have all played against teams like this ie Dromintee and i certainly don't wish them any ill will.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 08, 2007, 02:49:16 PM
Ha, your on a total wind up Winsamsoon, I feel for it too, well done sir!

On another note Dromintee 1-14 Mullaghbawn 1-7 from last night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on August 08, 2007, 02:57:36 PM
anpormor where did you get the mid armagh tables?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 08, 2007, 03:07:46 PM
Has anyone the senior championship fixtures for the weekend after next? 

Cross v Dromintee - Silverbridge? Sat or Sun
Og's V Nab - is Keady AFAIK on the sat evening
others?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 08, 2007, 05:44:04 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 08, 2007, 02:20:37 PM
you see but i have heard that the clans are an arrogant shire and this has been played out to the hilt. Pog i can't sit here all day my friend and look for little examples of how people have insulted the clans and be petty about wee spellings and other things. Since the board has begun (including the old one) there has been many examples of certain individuals poking insults at the clans ( and many other clubs but i can only defend my own). To date i haven't been able to find any reason for this. The only one that makes sense is the jealousy factor. If you claim not care what the clans do or even if you accept a hatred of the clans could you please tell me the reasons behind it. I have my theory but i would just be interested in hearing the views of the rest of ya's so i can rule the jealousy one out. Please spare me the yappy, crying, whinging, bastards one. We have all played against teams like this ie Dromintee and i certainly don't wish them any ill will.

Winsamsoon, of course there are plenty of individuals on here putting the boot into other clubs but I think you're being a bit paranoid if you say clanns get more than anyone else.  You were keen yourself to get the boot into the bridge a couple of days ago.  Why do people put the boot into clanns? Who knows, why does any club get it, various reasons.  But I'll tell you what annoys me, the siege mentality yous have, Clanns against world and of course the evil empire of south armagh. Another thing that annoys me is this obsessive need yous have to point to your club history, a history any club would be proud of but it certainly isn't everything.  How many times have you heard Harps posters on here, and there's enough of them, brag and blow about their history?  It is arrogance in itself to accuse others of being jealous and let me tell you why would any club be jealous of an aging side, going downhill, no one coming through and for the size of your club yous have a hard time getting a B team out?!  They're aren't to many clubs that would swap with you so you can cut out with the jealously claims, who cares about history, live in the present. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 08, 2007, 06:12:01 PM
Attaboy, POG, get in their boy! ;D

Pints does, have a very valid point about the Harps though.  The Harps are probably a more long term success story than the Clans.  The flip side to that is that not only have the Clans been a successful club they have provided Armagh with soem of its greatest players, Smyth, Marsden, McKinstry, Tidsie among others.  It, in my view, is a bit rich to be giving them grief about living in the past.  They and Mullaghbawn were the recent champions before us so therefore they have as recent a history as possible to be proud of.

They may not have much of a fututre as it stands, and I think that is why people have taken umbrage to winsamsoon.  It actually is a pity to see them struggling.  They seem to be getting the grief now that Cross got in the late 80's early 90's and I know that is not nice.  We did the same, I recall arguing with my friends when the Bridge had won a few leagues back when we were younger and this same thing being thrown in my face.

The Cross dominance will pass, when it does Clans will win the championship, I really do not know if I could confidently predict that about many other clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on August 08, 2007, 08:27:06 PM
bridge v killeavy off
no sign of ref or killeavy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on August 08, 2007, 09:19:19 PM
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Quote from: ard mhaca abu on August 07, 2007, 04:45:42 PM
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when yous lads come to Davitt next wed night we'll have the muzzles off alright. Eating face O Rourke wouldn't play B football anyway so the sarnies after the game should stretch a bit further 

dont think u should be slaggin anyone after the shape of u runnin around cruppen last wk like a headless chicken 


First thing first i know Cruppin beat us easily and i said that on the board but your getting into something different here when you start personal insults, now i know i may not be in the best of shape (1 stone overweight) but i tell you what when i moved into full back after Cruppin scored their goal i don't recall any other goals scored  and second you say i was running around like a headless chicken well maybe so but at least i wasn't running around like a gutless Ba****d 

y who was?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 08, 2007, 10:44:10 PM
Well pog you say forget about the past, this would be easy to do if you hadn't really had a successful past. Whether you like this or not, the clans have had. I never put the boot into silverbridge, i merely pointed out that they were being arrogant by posting posts criticising other successful clubs when they have won nothing ( and i may have been harsh on silverbridge ). When you say about the size of the club pog. We are struggling at the moment this is down to the influence of soccer in some cases. It is also down to the way society is going with our youth in an inner city town only wanting to drink. But another major downfall is the catchment area is very small for so many teams to exst in. In many ways gaelic football in lurgan is beginning to break away from the family ties. Our own club still does have the usual families producing players over decades but this is beginning to dry up as the interest just ain't there. Ths is a sad state of affairs as broken crossbar pointed out and i would share this sentiment if this happened to any other club in Armagh. Why, because i am a gael like the majority of you. But it is our history that creates our future, and it is proven that successful clubs usually do rise again. I am sure you have seen your own club go through transition. In our club it is our past successes that drives us forward. So we should never forget the past pog.Being proud of you club past should not be mistaken for arrogance. I don't know what way south Armagh teams are coping at the moment with regardes number of players but the game seems to be thriving at the moment which is only good for the clubs and county. I would think with all the arguments in the ogs and hars they are pretty much in a similar position as ourselves but they have a larger pick which is keeping them afloat.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on August 08, 2007, 10:47:14 PM
www.orchardcounty.com
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 08, 2007, 10:58:18 PM
QuoteWell pog you say forget about the past, this would be easy to do if you hadn't really had a successful past. Whether you like this or not, the clans have had.
You see there you go again "whether you like it or not", I really don't care.

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I never put the boot into silverbridge, i merely pointed out that they were being arrogant by posting posts criticising other successful clubs when they have won nothing ( and i may have been harsh on silverbridge ).
Right, there's three bridge posters on this board, myself, sixinchnail and inthemaking, I know none of us have ever posted anything arrogant!  You also accused cullyhanna of being arrogant, there's two of their posters on the board, tacadoir - who doesn't post that often anymore and trevez or something that's only been here 5 minutes but I don't remember him saying anything about the clanns, most of his posts are about Jarlath Burns  ::)  Siege Mentality again.

I realise that the problems clanns have are the same experienced by many clubs and if past successes can drive you on that's great but there is no need for this siege mentality.  I personally would like to see clubs like clanns, harps, ogs a lot stronger, it's actually concerning from a gaa man's point of view that these clubs are struggling over drink and other sports.  It's not good forthe GAA and it certainly isn't good for the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on August 08, 2007, 11:08:23 PM
pearse og beat an portmor by 2 points tonight

any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on August 08, 2007, 11:25:03 PM
madden beat clan na gael byt 4points in bacl
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 09, 2007, 08:55:55 AM
Benny, in relation to your question about championship fixtures, from memory they are:

Sat Week Ogs vs Nab
Sun double header in Abbey Park (I think)
Sun 7pm Silverbridge Cross v Dromintee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 09, 2007, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on August 09, 2007, 08:55:55 AM
Benny, in relation to your question about championship fixtures, from memory they are:

Sat Week Ogs vs Nab
Sun double header in Abbey Park (I think)
Sun 7pm Silverbridge Cross v Dromintee

Ogs V Nab - Keady - 6:30pm sat 18th august
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 09, 2007, 10:19:04 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 08, 2007, 06:12:01 PM
The Cross dominance will pass, when it does Clans will win the championship, I really do not know if I could confidently predict that about many other clubs.

That statement betrays a total misunderstanding of the facts of why clanns are on the slide. for years clanns were the team to play for around lurgan. all of the good players played for the clanns. If you were a good footballer by the time you were senior you were playing for them. thats no longer the case. lads play for their natural clubs now and the clanns have to compete like everyne else for players. although they have made strides to reverse it, other clubs like clann eireann and st pauls got a jump on them in catering for and attracting young lads. thats on top of the social issues which now effect of every urban club. so the natural assumption that the big clubs with tradition wil always be there or there abouts no longer applies.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 09, 2007, 11:49:30 AM
Uladh that is a total misunderstanding of the facts. The statement about if you were a good player you played for the clans is complete nonsense. The clans team of the 70's all lived within close proximity of the club and the majority of them all came from clan na gael families and to this day still do. when you say players now are playing for their natural clubs. If someone lives in Kilwilkiie and has been from a family with clan na gael connections. Tell me then what is his natural club? I would be interested to hear all of your opinions on this. Should players play for the club closest to them, where there friends play or the club with his family connections? I would be of the opinion that he should stick with the family ties but that is just me. The formation of St paul's done the cans a lot of damage simply because it took away about 30% of the families which had links with clan na gael. Pog we are a club that is under siege at the moment. I know that we are hated right across the country, i have played in games where the referee has actually said it more or less( this year mullaghbawn). I have also listened to idiots around my our town talking as if the clans were complete dirt. So i ain't imagining this scenario. I would conceed though that the majority of the insults are coming from idiots who treat Gaelic like it is a pub soccer team, and not the true gaels whom remain faithful to the cause.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 09, 2007, 12:20:52 PM
Quote from: Uladh on August 09, 2007, 10:19:04 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 08, 2007, 06:12:01 PM
The Cross dominance will pass, when it does Clans will win the championship, I really do not know if I could confidently predict that about many other clubs.

That statement betrays a total misunderstanding of the facts of why clanns are on the slide. for years clanns were the team to play for around lurgan. all of the good players played for the clanns. If you were a good footballer by the time you were senior you were playing for them. thats no longer the case. lads play for their natural clubs now and the clanns have to compete like everyne else for players. although they have made strides to reverse it, other clubs like clann eireann and st pauls got a jump on them in catering for and attracting young lads. thats on top of the social issues which now effect of every urban club. so the natural assumption that the big clubs with tradition wil always be there or there abouts no longer applies.

Uladh i have been trying to stay out of these arguments about clans v the whole world and i suppose i have to a certain extent, but you are wrong what you say about the best players playing for the Clans. they have not poached any top players from the surrounding clubs the guys that play for clans are clan na Gael people. I am not aware of any (so called top players) guys who have moved to our club in my time. winsamsoon is correct when he says that society has changed more so in the towns and the sad fact of the matter is guys would rather sit in a bar drinking pints and watching live soccer than play our beautiful game.

there is no doubt that we are struggling but what can we do, we are running the summer schemes for the kids and trying to keep them involved the problem is when they hit 17 they change into the old townie habbits and the rest is history. I'm old school when it comes to Gaelic games, i love every thing about it and what it stands for but unfortunatly the younger generation are a different breed (around Lurgan at least)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 09, 2007, 01:02:06 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 09, 2007, 11:49:30 AM
Pog we are a club that is under siege at the moment. I know that we are hated right across the country

FFS winsam  :D :D
Under siege!!
Hated across the country!!
Right up there with Hitler
:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 09, 2007, 03:35:58 PM
children children stop fighting over scraps.  you wont be able to play with the big boys from cross until you grow up!!! 

how can one team be so dominant for the good of football in armagh someone has to mount a serious challenge is it not embarrassing to be so far behind for so long???
as for the claim about cross fading and the clanns men taking over what are you basing this on???
Cross cleared up Minor, U21 and senior last year so it doesnt look like they are goin to fade any time soon and by the time the present cross team and those coming up just behind are on the wane who knows what club will be there.

on a totally different subject how do you all rate ballymacnabs chances against the Ogs have they a hope give me score predictions please
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 09, 2007, 03:39:44 PM
Og's 3-16
Nab 1-6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 09, 2007, 03:45:00 PM
i personally think the nab will get trounced and im very comfortable with that as they have some heads on them after winning an intermediate title for the first time youd think they won an all ireland club. I reckon

B,Nab 1: 8

OGS   4:18
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 09, 2007, 04:08:29 PM
whats the feeling in armagh about the nicky rackard final?? hope it goes your way will def be cheering yous on come saturday. but they shouldve fixed the game before one of the big hurling games instead of making sure as many knackers as possible could watch the dubs. they done the same last year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 09, 2007, 09:00:24 PM
Why Billy are you saying if there had of been more tickets a much bigger crowd would of went to the Nicky Rackard Final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on August 09, 2007, 10:34:25 PM
Yeah a lot more people would have went to the Nicky Rackard. Poss not alot more from Armagh but neutral hurling fans have been shafted.
Cullyhanna beat Crossmaglen in the U16 Champ final tonight. Oh surprise, surprise ther was a mad scuffle after the match. No doubt the carpet is being lifted already and the broom is in action. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 09, 2007, 10:43:07 PM
define "mad scuffle"?.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 09, 2007, 10:50:58 PM
Exactly POG mad suggest trouble , scuffle suggest handbags. Use a proper word like schmozzle for fucks sake.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 10, 2007, 08:12:33 AM
Quote from: billy the kid on August 09, 2007, 03:35:58 PM
children children stop fighting over scraps.  you wont be able to play with the big boys from cross until you grow up!!! 

how can one team be so dominant for the good of football in armagh someone has to mount a serious challenge is it not embarrassing to be so far behind for so long???
as for the claim about cross fading and the clanns men taking over what are you basing this on???
Cross cleared up Minor, U21 and senior last year so it doesnt look like they are goin to fade any time soon and by the time the present cross team and those coming up just behind are on the wane who knows what club will be there.

on a totally different subject how do you all rate ballymacnabs chances against the Ogs have they a hope give me score predictions please

Draw 1.12 to 1;12
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 10, 2007, 08:42:10 AM
You dont want a draw then thats the holiday f&*ked up the following weekend
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 10, 2007, 10:13:04 AM

I have some friends heavily involved in th underage coaching structures of clann eireann and st pauls. i've also heard good things about st peter's approach to the same area. their opinion is that the clans have only tried to address their inaction in that area in the last 2/3 years. i'll admit they are more than a little smug about it but they're attitude is that theclans sat on their hands for 7/8 years and allowed them to make hay. they feel the fruits of that labour will be in the next 5 years. time will tell i suppose. they also continually make the point that they now have a "fair" crack at children coming into club football and feel they have done far more to attract and keep kids.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 10, 2007, 10:17:01 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 10, 2007, 08:42:10 AM
You dont want a draw then thats the holiday f&*ked up the following weekend

Indeed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 10, 2007, 10:24:40 AM
FFS el cuervo
A draw!!
I know teams talk up the opposition but you are being ridiculous. The Nab have no chance of getting close to the Ogs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on August 10, 2007, 10:27:43 AM
Nab 2 get hammered!

ogs - 3 - 15

Nab - 1- 8

Any1 any others comments on this?

Y do u feel that the nab has nw got big heads after last yrs cship win?

Any1 any other predictions 4 the other cship games coming up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 10, 2007, 10:36:59 AM
Nab 1-09 Ogs 2-11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on August 10, 2007, 10:40:17 AM
Nab 0-5 Ogs 1 bo and 12 Vodkas  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 10, 2007, 11:14:38 AM
The 'Nab lost 5 or 6 of last year's Int. winning team to Oz, hence the shocking results for most of the year.  I've heard most of these lads are back and that can only help.  They are in an no lose situation and the Ogs will be complacent - no matter how hard they try not to be.  Still, it's hard to see anything other than a victory for the Orcs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 10, 2007, 02:17:11 PM
 Still, it's hard to see anything other than a victory for the Orcs.
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i know the ogs boys arent a pretty bunch but calling them Orcs is a bit harsh!!! ;)

cant see the B nab getting close myself was talking to a couple not so long ago and when i asked how they thought they would do:
Nabman 1 "We havent a f***ing hope!"

Nabman 2 "We are gonna get f***ing Hammered Boy!"

says it all really and thats not counting the fact they have struggled against intermediate championship teams all year in Div 2

as for the arguement about missing players cause they are travelling.....tough shit

every club has this problem at some stage or another and you get on with it. Your only as good as
the 15 who take the field not the 4 or five who went to see a bit of this rock we call home.

whats your predictions for the monaghan and derry games lads do ulster have a hope???

By the way are any of you armagh men going to see your county team on sat it is an all ireland final and the hurlers first time EVER playing in croker surely they deserv your support!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on August 10, 2007, 02:44:14 PM
i would love to see armagh hurlers play in croke park for the first time but its on a saturday and of course i have to work. rippin!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 10, 2007, 02:49:49 PM
Uladh i fully realise what you are saying and there are elements of truth in your sources. However the coaches that thse clubs have coaching the kids are not the best group of people to be learning the youth. I don't mean to be disrespectful to these people because i know they are the only ones willing to give up their spare time but there are too many parents now getting involved in the coaching setup. These level ones and twos and threes can be obtained by any person who is willing to sit and listen to a bunch of over payed ulster council folk. These people then come away with a certificate and suddenly become th coach of our under 12, 14 and 16 teams. In an ideal world it should be past and present players coaching because at least they have had some experience with the game. However we have a problem with this at our club where the senior team is the be all and end all and there a only a select few willing to give up their time to help out with the youth. I know for a fact that this doesn't happen in other clubs and this is another reason for the demise of the clans.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MrTaylor on August 10, 2007, 03:04:54 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on August 10, 2007, 02:17:11 PM
Still, it's hard to see anything other than a victory for the Orcs.


By the way are any of you armagh men going to see your county team on sat it is an all ireland final and the hurlers first time EVER playing in croker surely they deserv your support!!
[/quote]

Billy

This is Armagh Senior hurlers third time in Croke Park. Beaten by Roscommon in 1965 in All Ireland Junior Final and hammered Mayo in 1978 (scored 5-12 ) in National League Final.  Paul McCormack's father Jim played for Armagh in 1978 .

Hope Armagh get revenge for that result 42 years ago, in with every chance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on August 10, 2007, 07:18:14 PM
After the hurling, anyone ready to leave Croker at half time of the Dub match, then head on down to Mullingar to watch the Armagh ladies v Tyrone (5.30pm)? Get a convoy going? (Stop humming that convoy song). ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on August 10, 2007, 07:24:27 PM
POG asked define "mad scuffle"?.

Say 40 v 40. Kids, adults swinging punches, pushing, few actual connections. Sort of Lord of the Rings charge and then a quick gettaway.

Shouldn't take away from a cracking game though.

Heard someone say one of the men on duty clipped a young lad, but it would be shame for such allegations to get much breathing space without the facts. No doubt all will be reported in the refs report.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 10, 2007, 08:55:28 PM
refs report   ...............are you serious. it's joe murtagh we're talking about.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 11, 2007, 10:49:27 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 10, 2007, 11:14:38 AM
The 'Nab lost 5 or 6 of last year's Int. winning team to Oz, hence the shocking results for most of the year.  I've heard most of these lads are back and that can only help.  They are in an no lose situation and the Ogs will be complacent - no matter how hard they try not to be.  Still, it's hard to see anything other than a victory for the Orcs.
I seem them in the bridge this year and they just didn't want to know, I've rarely seen such a lazy effort from any team. 
Maybe it was a one off or maybe that has something to do with the results. 

Quoteas for the arguement about missing players cause they are travelling.....tough shit
Agree
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 11, 2007, 02:55:58 PM
Surely in this age 99percent of clubs would be affected by travelling players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on August 12, 2007, 01:07:11 AM
Quote from: Sidelined on August 10, 2007, 07:18:14 PM
After the hurling, anyone ready to leave Croker at half time of the Dub match, then head on down to Mullingar to watch the Armagh ladies v Tyrone (5.30pm)? Get a convoy going? (Stop humming that convoy song). ???

Left after the hurling. Clans still struggling to stay up. Shit season all round...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 12, 2007, 11:31:22 AM
I see Donagh is fishing for bites  ;) :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 12, 2007, 11:57:51 AM
The All County B final will be off. There was a tragedy in Greece last night which resulted in the death of a young Cullyhanna player. May he rest in peace.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on August 12, 2007, 12:53:00 PM
Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 12, 2007, 02:17:48 PM
The bridge beat Tones  2-10 to 0-8.

A tough game for us, we struggled to get into it early on but picked off a few scores and Cormac McAvoy's goal eventually set us on the way.  Tone's looked dangerous for long periods though we opened up the lead and a second goal from McAvoy mid through the second half really sealed it for us. 

Charliestubbs in the name of Jesus how can you say that is not a physical team!!! A dirty shower of f**kers more like!
Ref must have forgot the Red card as at least 4 could and should have been showed it! Numbers 9 and 11 (acting like two psychos the whole game) moriarty, number 3 and 7! He actually blew up early, I'd imagine before things got out of hand or before we'd any more players stretchered off! Fair play to our lads for holding their discipline throughout.



Heard about the cullyhanna lad, RIP.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on August 12, 2007, 03:09:49 PM
Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam

any word on who it is?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 12, 2007, 03:43:21 PM
Na i think Donagh actually follows the clans winsamsoon. (or has an interest in them)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 12, 2007, 09:11:50 PM
Any score for the Junior Championship final tonight at Abbey Park?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 13, 2007, 09:15:36 AM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on August 12, 2007, 09:11:50 PM
Any score for the Junior Championship final tonight at Abbey Park?


Collegleland won by 2 points in an awful game of football.

They were the better team by about 8 points, but a combination of woeful finishing and a sympathetic ref gave Clady a chance right up until the end.
Whilst Philip Loughran didn't do much for Clady in the 1st half he sure didn't help his team by getting his marching orders early in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 13, 2007, 09:54:01 AM
Quote from: full back on August 10, 2007, 10:24:40 AM
FFS el cuervo
A draw!!
I know teams talk up the opposition but you are being ridiculous. The Nab have no chance of getting close to the Ogs.


I think the game will be alot tighter than people think.  It is championship after all.  It's easy for a team to raise their game with the Buzz of Championship, especially when they're going in as underdogs.  The Nab will love the fact that everyone is predicting a defeat for them (going by previous predictions on this board).

as It's already been said, the Ogs are in a no win situation, The Nab have everything to play for and will Come at us right from the start, and will have a massive support.

Quote from: Spiritof98 on August 10, 2007, 10:40:17 AM
Nab 0-5 Ogs 1 bo and 12 Vodkas  ;)

LOL.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on August 13, 2007, 10:39:53 PM
madden minors got beat tonight in the quarter final of the championship. madden could have taken them but didnt play to their full potential in the second half and cross kick on. referee was woeful. any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Saran Man on August 13, 2007, 11:00:53 PM
Tullysaran minors beat Clan Eireann 0-12 to 0-5. Played in torrential rain both team played extremely hard.  Clan Eireann man sent off just before half time didnt help their cause.  Never the less a win is a win.  Heard Granemore beat Oliver Plunketts by 6. 
Would also like to extend our sympathies to the family of the lad from Cullyhanna.  Sure puts winning into perspective.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on August 14, 2007, 08:16:55 AM
Any word on the other minor results?? Tullysaran deserved to win and were doing better (0-7 to 0-1) until clann eireann had the man sent off! After that the heavy rain started and the game got very sloppy with a lot of jersey pulling and sliding about.

El cuervo, hows the injury you back and available for selection!?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 14, 2007, 08:40:24 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on August 14, 2007, 08:16:55 AM
Any word on the other minor results?? Tullysaran deserved to win and were doing better (0-7 to 0-1) until clann eireann had the man sent off! After that the heavy rain started and the game got very sloppy with a lot of jersey pulling and sliding about.

El cuervo, hows the injury you back and available for selection!?!

Aye back training flat out this couple of weeks now thank God.  Just in time for the Championship ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 14, 2007, 10:20:36 AM
Granemore beat Oliver Plunketts, leaves:

Granemore
Cross
Tullysaran
Cruppen or Cullyhana
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 14, 2007, 10:47:17 AM
Club Championship Predictions

Og's v 'Nab  Og's by 12
Carrickcruppen v Tir na nÓg   Cruppen by 2
Killeavey v Maghery  Maghery by 4
Crossmaglen v Dromintee  Cross by 6

I hear Portydown are having problems getting numbers to training - anyone hear anything?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 14, 2007, 11:45:27 AM
Quote from: full back on August 14, 2007, 10:47:17 AM
Club Championship Predictions

Og's v 'Nab  Og's by 12
Carrickcruppen v Tir na nÓg   Cruppen by 2
Killeavey v Maghery  Maghery by 4
Crossmaglen v Dromintee  Cross by 6

I hear Portydown are having problems getting numbers to training - anyone hear anything?

theyre at soccer training instead  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on August 14, 2007, 12:29:25 PM
Og's v 'Nab  Og's by 5
Carrickcruppen v Tir na nÓg   Cruppen by 4
Killeavey v Maghery  draw (maghery to go thru)
Crossmaglen v Dromintee  Cross by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 14, 2007, 12:46:32 PM
Ogs v Nab = Ogs by 5

Cruppin v Porty = Cruppin by 1

Killeavey v Maghery = Killeavey by 2

Cross v O'Rourkes = Cross by 4

i def wouldn't rule out a few draws Cruppin v Porty and Killeavey v Maghery could draw. Remember you heard it here first, get your money out and lump on :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 14, 2007, 01:04:01 PM
alot of people tipping cruppen to beat portadown dont know about that.you have take into account that portadown defeated clannagael in the last round,are a division above(at the minute) anbd have brian mallon playing again which they didnt have in the last round.in contrast cruppen needed a replay to beat a clann eireann team hardly setting the world alight.though uyou never know in championship.would consider a few quid on tirnanog at a good price round evens.

killeavey against maghery could be a very good game imo.both sides potentially deadly forwards in the forkers and stevie and stanfield.maghery would be slight favourites here imo after a very good win against mullaghbane in the first round,could need a second day to clinch it though.

cross dromintee cross by four though i think every neutral would like see dromintee win it though their best chance to beat cross has by passed them imo

ogs should beat the nab by around six or seven at least.the nab are here to make up the numbers and should probably consider dropping down to the intermediate if not this year next year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 14, 2007, 01:07:38 PM
Pearse Og Vs Ballymacnab - Sat @ 6.30pm - Keady

I can't fathom anything other than a comprehensive win for the city folk. with talent like McKinney, Mallon, Duffy, Hughes, Loughran and the clarkes the Ogs should be serious championship contenders. If the nab keep it tight and make it messy, there's always a chance that favourites can get edgy if it stays close. i just can't see the nab having enough quality to win even if that happens. Og's by 7 or 8

Carrickcruppen Vs Tir na Nog - Sun @ 2pm - Abbey Park

Carrickcruppen have been producing some hot and cold performances but have some talented footballers. I'm assuming Tir Na Nog are losing at least one of their forwards from the first round defeat of clans to soccer (?). that should be balanced out by the return of brian mallon, who has been scoring freely recently going on reports. as with the next game i think the regular exposure to a higher quality of opposition week in and week out in division one could just shade it for Portadown. Portadown by the bare minimum

Killeavy Vs Maghery - sun @ 4pm - Abbey Park

Killeavy will obviously carry a big scoring threat with McDonnell and the recently reprieved Mark Stanfield in their ranks but having wathed them there is just something missing with them. their defence is reasonable but the maghery forward line carry a real threat. certainly a level of scoring potential that killeavy haven't faced this year. inexplicably, killeavy play both of their chief scorers in the half forward line and can struggle to get scores due to an inability to win the ball inside. maghery are a cagey outfit and will pack their defence and hit on the break. Lavery has developed into arguably the best midfielder in division one and the possession he provides should be enough to get maghery the win. Maghery by 3

Crossmaglen Vs Dromintee - Sun @ 6.30pm - Silverbridge

Hmmm. This year has seen a very low key build up to this game. previous years have seen dromintee going into their annual game with cross playing well and racking up scores, which has led to people talking up the possibility of an upset. i think there is feeling that dromintee have lost their opportunity for beating cross and there is virtualy no attention on what in other years would be regarded as the only significant game in the championship. i thnk the loss of bellew has been overlooked in all of this. he was frequently the reason dromintee's scores were limited as dromintee always kick it in long and he loved that. cross haven't had a league game together in almost two months. i have a sneaking suspicion for dromintee here. Dromitee by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 14, 2007, 01:13:12 PM
Quote from: Uladh on August 14, 2007, 01:07:38 PM
Pearse Og Vs Ballymacnab - Sat @ 6.30pm - Keady

I can't fathom anything other than a comprehensive win for the city folk. with talent like McKinney, Mallon, Duffy, Hughes, Loughran and the clarkes the Ogs should be serious championship contenders. If the nab keep it tight and make it messy, there's always a chance that favourites can get edgy if it stays close. i just can't see the nab having enough quality to win even if that happens. Og's by 7 or 8

Carrickcruppen Vs Tir na Nog - Sun @ 2pm - Abbey Park

Carrickcruppen have been producing some hot and cold performances but have some talented footballers. I'm assuming Tir Na Nog are losing at least one of their forwards from the first round defeat of clans to soccer (?). that should be balanced out by the return of brian mallon, who has been scoring freely recently going on reports. as with the next game i think the regular exposure to a higher quality of opposition week in and week out in division one could just shade it for Portadown. Portadown by the bare minimum

Killeavy Vs Maghery - sun @ 4pm - Abbey Park

Killeavy will obviously carry a big scoring threat with McDonnell and the recently reprieved Mark Stanfield in their ranks but having wathed them there is just something missing with them. their defence is reasonable but the maghery forward line carry a real threat. certainly a level of scoring potential that killeavy haven't faced this year. inexplicably, killeavy play both of their chief scorers in the half forward line and can struggle to get scores due to an inability to win the ball inside. maghery are a cagey outfit and will pack their defence and hit on the break. Lavery has developed into arguably the best midfielder in division one and the possession he provides should be enough to get maghery the win. Maghery by 3

Crossmaglen Vs Dromintee - Sun @ 6.30pm - Silverbridge

Hmmm. This year has seen a very low key build up to this game. previous years have seen dromintee going into their annual game with cross playing well and racking up scores, which has led to people talking up the possibility of an upset. i think there is feeling that dromintee have lost their opportunity for beating cross and there is virtualy no attention on what in other years would be regarded as the only significant game in the championship. i thnk the loss of bellew has been overlooked in all of this. he was frequently the reason dromintee's scores were limited as dromintee always kick it in long and he loved that. cross haven't had a league game together in almost two months. i have a sneaking suspicion for dromintee here. [i]Dromitee by 2[/i]
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 14, 2007, 01:15:55 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 14, 2007, 01:04:01 PM
cross dromintee cross by four though i think every neutral would like see dromintee win it though their best chance to beat cross has by passed them imo

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 14, 2007, 01:16:13 PM
that would put the cat among the pigeons.you seem to speak alot of sense here uladh.the game has been very low key.this year it appears more than ever that everyone are just going to roll over for cross.forgot that bellew will not be in round the house,playing gareth oneill on edge of the square and delivering high balls could produce dividends for dromintee but still take cross to shade it.any odds available on the games lads?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 14, 2007, 01:17:42 PM
fb sorry if you misinterpreted my post.i meant most neutrals would like see cros beating for good of armagh footballl
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 14, 2007, 01:19:52 PM
I didnt misinterpret your post charlie
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on August 14, 2007, 02:00:34 PM
is the cruppen /st pats minor game still on  on wed nite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 14, 2007, 02:18:15 PM

Whats the chances of abbey park holding up for two games on sunday if the rain forecast this week arrives?

if you're out there paddy og, and i believe u keep an eye on us, make sure you have a fall back ground ready!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 14, 2007, 02:26:48 PM
Orcs V 'Nab
Hard to make a case for the 'Nab (which I did last week), Ogs by 5.

'Cruppen v Portydown
I haven't seen 'Cruppen this year, but from what I've seen of Portydown I expect 'Cruppen to win.  Brian Mallon was anonymous against the harps and was clearly limping(3/4 wks ago).  The death of Michael Carvill last week will hardly help Tir na Og(although it could be a rallying point). 'Cruppen by 2

Maghery v Killeavey
I have been very impressed with Maghery this year a fierce young team with fantastic forwards, if they're not bullied out of it they could handily. Maghery by 4

Cross v Dromintee
Is the absence of Bellew a good enough reason to expect a spectacular turnaround in fortunes for Dromintee?  They certainly have the players, but up until this point have lacked the bottle, but Cross' luck is going to desert them some day. Cross by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 14, 2007, 02:37:04 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 14, 2007, 02:26:48 PM
Cross v Dromintee
Is the absence of Bellew a good enough reason to expect a spectacular turnaround in fortunes for Dromintee?  They certainly have the players, but up until this point have lacked the bottle, but Cross' luck is going to desert them some day. Cross by 2

The main strand in my thinking is that there has never been more than a kick of a ball between them. it certainly doesn't require a "spectacular turnaround in fortunes" for dromitee to win. i feel the bellew factor my be enough to make the difference. having not seen them all year but watching their last two league games, i'd have to say the progress of dyas and o'neill has been very impressive. those two lads are the main players for domintee now rather than aidan and martin o'rourke,as it has traditionally been.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 14, 2007, 03:03:20 PM
The game will be in the melting pot up until the throw in. Then cross will just be the usual machine and will win the game by about 3 or 4 points but it will be a comfortable 3 or 4 point victory. Overall they are just too strong for Dromintee. Dyas and these guys are without doubt talented footballers but we  have seen cross stop talented footballers from playing before. If this tactic is legal then fair play to them. I wouldn't like to see Cross beat, as some of the posters are saying. If Cross win then they deserve to and the same goes for Dromintee. I wish both team all the best. I fancy the Og's to win at a canter, Tir na Nog to draw and Maghery to just shade it against the Killeavy men.Is stansfield still playing for Killeavy?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 14, 2007, 03:58:13 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 14, 2007, 03:03:20 PM
The game will be in the melting pot up until the throw in. Then cross will just be the usual machine and will win the game by about 3 or 4 points but it will be a comfortable 3 or 4 point victory. Overall they are just too strong for Dromintee. Dyas and these guys are without doubt talented footballers but we  have seen cross stop talented footballers from playing before. If this tactic is legal then fair play to them. I wouldn't like to see Cross beat, as some of the posters are saying. If Cross win then they deserve to and the same goes for Dromintee. I wish both team all the best. I fancy the Og's to win at a canter, Tir na Nog to draw and Maghery to just shade it against the Killeavy men.Is stansfield still playing for Killeavy?

He was sent of a few weeks ago, but i'm not sure if it was 2 yellas or a straight red
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 14, 2007, 08:15:22 PM
benny what is the current condition of abbey park? and what is your opinion on the playing surface if this forecast rain for the next few days is correct?

abbey park hasnt exactly been a happy stomping ground for us in the championship this past 2 years, spirit is good in the camp and i am predicting a cruppen victory, along with wins for pearse ogs, crossmaglen and killeavey!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on August 14, 2007, 10:13:19 PM
Uladh, are you going to the Cross v Dromintee match?

I'd like to see your report, especially when SK racks up 3 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 15, 2007, 12:18:40 AM

Hopefully get to all of the games orior. are you going yourself?

QuoteI'd like to see your report, especially when SK racks up 3 points.

won't happen. tight pitch with plenty of physical contest... he'll be lucky to play the whole game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on August 15, 2007, 12:33:13 AM
I'm hoping for a ticket for the Cork Meath match, and heading down Saturday evening
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 15, 2007, 10:49:31 AM
Clans v Annaghmore (B-team) off tonight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 15, 2007, 10:51:25 AM
Did Stansfield get a straight red?
There have been numerours occasions this year when players got straight reds but only ended up being put in for 2 yellows.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 15, 2007, 10:54:26 AM
full back i heard he did and that he got it for striking the linesman! who technically is an official meaning he should have got banned for 48 weeks!
Title: Odds for this weekends Championship?
Post by: Against the Breeze on August 15, 2007, 11:40:21 AM
Anyone have the match betting for this weekends championship matches?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 15, 2007, 11:45:40 AM

I was at the Killeavy / Granemore game in killeavy. He got a straight red all right. he got the granemore linesman by the throat a few seconds after he'd given a poor call against killeavy and the line ball was cleared downfield. big sam was the ref so i'd a fair idea it'd go in as a second yella.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 15, 2007, 12:27:58 PM
did you have your big camoflauge suit on that night too like you had in cruppen last week at the ladies match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 15, 2007, 12:46:18 PM

Yes











Is that the correct answer?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on August 15, 2007, 12:50:05 PM
anybody gona call ne bets in this wends chsip games with teams + points? wat bout drominte + points n nab + points? any1 ne bettin on this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 15, 2007, 12:53:18 PM
Quote from: downtown on August 15, 2007, 12:50:05 PM
anybody gona call ne bets in this wends chsip games with teams + points? wat bout drominte + points n nab + points? any1 ne bettin on this?

wha
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 15, 2007, 01:06:32 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 15, 2007, 12:53:18 PM
Quote from: downtown on August 15, 2007, 12:50:05 PM
anybody gona call ne bets in this wends chsip games with teams + points? wat bout drominte + points n nab + points? any1 ne bettin on this?

wha

Blue don't have me to take the middle out of ya on this board, he means Handicap betting within the bookies like Dromintee +3pts at 1/1 etc etc ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 15, 2007, 01:11:44 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 15, 2007, 01:06:32 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 15, 2007, 12:53:18 PM
Quote from: downtown on August 15, 2007, 12:50:05 PM
anybody gona call ne bets in this wends chsip games with teams + points? wat bout drominte + points n nab + points? any1 ne bettin on this?

wha

Blue don't have me to take the middle out of ya on this board, he means Handicap betting within the bookies like Dromintee +3pts at 1/1 etc etc ;)

youd love to take the middle out of me.  :P
i said wha because of all his text speak. unfortunately i understand the handicap betting because of a lifetime giving money to cigar head french
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 16, 2007, 10:44:30 AM
Taken from Lone Shark's page (Ladbrokes)

Pearse Óg   Ballymacnab    1/12   16/1    11/2
Killeavy   Maghery   11/10    6/1    10/11
Carrickcruppin   Tír na nÓg    5/4     6/1     4/5
Crossmaglen   Dromintee    1/5    11/1     7/2

No handicap betting available yet
Maghery look a good price even if Stanfield is playing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 16, 2007, 10:58:15 AM
Quote from: full back on August 16, 2007, 10:44:30 AM
Taken from Lone Shark's page (Ladbrokes)

Pearse Óg   Ballymacnab    1/12   16/1    11/2
Killeavy   Maghery   11/10    6/1    10/11
Carrickcruppin   Tír na nÓg    5/4     6/1     4/5
Crossmaglen   Dromintee    1/5    11/1      7/2

No handicap betting available yet
Maghery look a good price even if Stanfield is playing

represents the best value single bet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 16, 2007, 12:11:47 PM
Feck that betting craic, got my hands burnt last night on Celtic. Had a £100 on Spartak Moscow, i thought they were good things so thats the end of the gambling for me :'( :'(

Will porty have a team, i hear 2 weeks b4 the championship they had less than 10 showing for training. Looks like they have already played their championship final in the first round, and thats sad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 16, 2007, 04:10:30 PM
 :-* Ha d a few dollars on spartak myself but then covered the old hand when shevchenko (horse for the ignorant) romped home with the dick out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 16, 2007, 06:16:32 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on August 14, 2007, 08:15:22 PM
benny what is the current condition of abbey park? and what is your opinion on the playing surface if this forecast rain for the next few days is correct?

abbey park hasnt exactly been a happy stomping ground for us in the championship this past 2 years, spirit is good in the camp and i am predicting a cruppen victory, along with wins for pearse ogs, crossmaglen and killeavey!

With the forecast weather I'd doubt very much if Abbey will take 2 games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 17, 2007, 12:51:52 PM
Feck me lads, the championship weekend and yous are all beating the batteries of yourselves instead of getting a few debates going :o

Maybe the big posters are on Holidays
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 17, 2007, 01:18:50 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 17, 2007, 12:51:52 PM
Feck me lads, the championship weekend and yous are all beating the batteries of yourselves instead of getting a few debates going :o

Maybe the big posters are on Holidays

I'm sure there'll be plenty of bootin done on monday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 17, 2007, 01:25:48 PM
Spot on illdecide

Any word on Stanfield? Has this matter been swept under the carpet-like many other incidents this season.
No doubt Maghery would like to beat them on the field, but if Killeavy do beat them Maghery have every right to appeal IMHO
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 17, 2007, 01:40:57 PM
Hopefully I'll be able to take a run down to watch the Cross/Dromintee game on Sunday.  It will be nice to watch a game from the safety of the stands, although it may be worse!

As I haven't see any of the teams this year my opinion here is merely guesswork.

By all accounts the Ogs should coast it.  The Nab are not quite up to this standard yet.  The gap between Intermediate and senior seems to have widened in recent years.

Tir na nOg may have beaten the Clans but Cruppen are a good championship club.  I reckon the will win this with a few to spare.

Maghery are a sticky team and no one likes playing them.  If the can hold their own at the middle and stop McDonnell getting the ball, I reckon the will make the semis.

I am making no predictions about Cross and Dromintee.  On paper Cross win this one, but on the field of play who knows.  Cross will eventually be beaten but hopefully not yet.

Are the semi's an open draw or have the pairings been drawn already?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 17, 2007, 01:45:04 PM
jaysus your right illdecide!

things have been strangely quiet on this forum this past two days! no one seems to be giving anything away and you would hardly think that this is championship weekend!

heard last night that tir na nog has a few injury problems and that mcallister is away with northern ireland this weekend! but i will believe that when i see it!

we are missing 4 players, two long-term injuries and two lads are away on holidays, the four off them all featured in our last round win over clann eireann!

has other teams any injury problems?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 17, 2007, 02:00:01 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 17, 2007, 01:40:57 PM


Are the semi's an open draw or have the pairings been drawn already?

as far as I know its an open draw
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 17, 2007, 02:16:16 PM
I would say the winners of Cross/Dromintee & the Og's will be kept apart in the semi-final draw made behind closed doors by the county board ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 17, 2007, 02:28:41 PM

Who goes on holidays the weekend you have a championship quarter final?

You'll not have seen them much recently bc i know but you are doing maghery a disservice. they're probably the most improved team in the county and have probably the best midfielder in the championship in Lavery. they are also very very fast and dangerous up front. they'll beat killeavey. the stanfield red card has gone the traditonal route all right and i can't understand maghery just letting it slide.

the regular posters must be gettin nervous as the week goes on!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 17, 2007, 02:32:41 PM
Thought that was strange myself uladh - 2 lads away for the championship.
It is a super chance for Cruppen to make the semi final of a county championship.
Why would anyone book holidays when there is a chance of games being played?
There was a 2 week window for a break & it just finished last week ???

Either the lads/club dont give a fcuk or ds is taking the p1ss ;)
Who are the 4 you are missing diesel?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 17, 2007, 02:43:45 PM
i hope killeavy are well beat.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 17, 2007, 02:48:55 PM

Jaysus pint... poor oul killeavy never harmed noone
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 17, 2007, 02:52:37 PM
they can't follow rules though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 17, 2007, 02:59:20 PM
They arent by themselves pog
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 17, 2007, 03:01:47 PM
true
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 17, 2007, 03:07:39 PM
i certainly wouldnt blame the lads for the holidays! the championship was scheduled for 3 weeks ago and the fixtures committee just decided to change it til this weekend without consulting any clubs in the matter! the lads knew when the championship dates had been previously booked for and thought they had booked their holidays around these dates!

the lads missing are micheal kane (broken collarbone), stephen harold (glandular fever), gerard morgan and tony bennett are away on holidays!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 17, 2007, 03:09:01 PM
are the rumours true that dromintee have serious injury problems ahead of the game with cross or are they just preparing themselves for defeat?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 17, 2007, 03:18:26 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on August 17, 2007, 03:07:39 PM
i certainly wouldnt blame the lads for the holidays! the championship was scheduled for 3 weeks ago and the fixtures committee just decided to change it til this weekend without consulting any clubs in the matter! the lads knew when the championship dates had been previously booked for and thought they had booked their holidays around these dates!

and the semis were scheduled for this weekend...

anyway, the only realistic excuse would be not having played football in armagh ever.

there are rumours of a lot of injuries in both cross and dromintee but sure thats par for the course for a championship match. looking forward to that game because if nothing else, each of these ties in the last 5 years have been great games of football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 17, 2007, 03:22:44 PM
pj i think you will find that the quarter finals had been fixed for 20th, 21st, 22nd july,

the semi finals for 8th ad 9th september

and the final for 30th september

so i dont know where your getting the semi finals had been scheduled for this weekend!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 17, 2007, 03:27:05 PM
the draw for the semi-finals will be made on the pitch after the final whistle of the crossmaglen v dromintee game!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 17, 2007, 03:28:00 PM
Humble apologies george.

the point is the same... how can anyone who has played football in this county in recent years think for one second that the schedules published at the start of the year will remain? surely the club will reimburse them for staying at home?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 17, 2007, 03:31:34 PM
Why would anyone book holidays when they know there is a chance there might be games played.
Even if there was no championship fixed, there would have been league games.
All clubs were told at the start of the year when the free periods were
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 17, 2007, 03:37:04 PM
we all haven't the money dromintee has!!!

full back - at the end of the day the gaa is an amateur organisation and players cannot be held ransome from clubs or county boards as to when they can book the holidays!

the dates set at the start of the year are fine and well but not everyone can take annual leave at that time! im sure we are not the only club at a loss because of players on holidays this weekend! championship or not we still would have been without them this weekend and also next weekend we have other players going on holiday so if it is a draw on sunday we will have another problem to deal with for the replay!

with armagh being beaten at an early stage in the championship and qualifiers the county board should have pressed ahead with the championship on the dates scheduled, as a result of this league fixtures have also been affected! we already have a headache with being behind so many games in the league as a result of which only one game was put off by cruppen due to a death within the club
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 17, 2007, 03:38:22 PM
Pints your club is getting another big championship game thats 2 in 2 years "the sign of things to come" thats the only game i will see this weekend. Pints maybe you'll set me up a few Pints on Sunday??? ;) ;)

Feck me, trying to work on a friday afternoon when you have a ween of pints in ya is mustard :'( :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 17, 2007, 03:39:25 PM
Fair enough ds
I suppose it depends how serious you take your football
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 17, 2007, 03:47:41 PM
I don't think I am doing them a disservice at all Uladh by saying they are a sticky team who are hard to beat.  If Lavery can control midfield I think they will beat Killeavey.  However, if McDonnell can get on the ball often enough he could beat them on his own.

diesel-smuggler i think your on to a wrong one there if you think uladh goes by those initials.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 17, 2007, 03:51:21 PM
full back i have to seriously disagree with you with regards to your last comment!

any player who commits themselves to 2 or 3 training sessions a week from january and turns up every sunday for 5 or 6 months to me takes their football very serious, just because they decide to take a holiday during the season all of a sudden questions their committment to the club - you seriously are taking thru your arse!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 17, 2007, 03:55:44 PM
will be interesting to see how well the pitch holds up in silverbridge if this big rain that is expected eventually comes!

cruppen have been asked by the county board our pitch could be available on stand-by should silverbridge not hold up!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 17, 2007, 04:03:47 PM
there was shocking amount of rain last weekend and pitch seemed fine sunday morning - though i wasn't running around in it, thank god.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on August 17, 2007, 04:14:25 PM
Regarding the holidays, County board at the start of the year allocated 2 weeks for holidays.  Which were last week and week before therefore time was there, but as its an amateur sport you cant begrudge a player a holiday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on August 17, 2007, 09:05:29 PM
We lost by 5 to the Tones tonight, dont know anything else about the game as im on holiday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on August 17, 2007, 10:38:49 PM
keady beat st peters by 6 points. any other results from 2ni
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 17, 2007, 11:19:46 PM
all other games in div.2 had been off tonight with cruppen, ballymacnab and killeavey all featuring in the championship this weekend and st. pats game against silverbridge off as a mark of respect to the late brendan mccooey
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on August 18, 2007, 01:26:03 PM
any1 know any div 3 results from last night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on August 18, 2007, 08:03:31 PM
Ógs beat Ballymacnab by a point; 1-07 to 0-10! Goal scored by Paul Duffy I'm told.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on August 18, 2007, 08:39:50 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on August 18, 2007, 08:03:31 PM
Ógs beat Ballymacnab by a point; 1-07 to 0-10! Goal scored by Paul Duffy I'm told.

is that not a draw??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaa.boy on August 19, 2007, 11:44:48 AM
Ogs 1-07
Ballymacnab 0-09


Are the 2 games still going ahead at Abbey Park today?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on August 19, 2007, 01:26:07 PM
QuoteÓgs beat Ballymacnab by a point; 1-07 to 0-10! Goal scored by Paul Duffy I'm told.

Think it was Barry Gordon who got the goal - Jesus he looked very thin last night, he used to be quite stocky.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: KIDDO on August 19, 2007, 06:58:43 PM
Crossmaglen 0.7, Dromintee0.1 , after 25 minutes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 19, 2007, 07:02:17 PM
any results from earlier?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PatDaly on August 19, 2007, 08:05:55 PM
Dromintee snatched a draw against Crossmaglen with a last minute free kick. Replay next Sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardasell on August 19, 2007, 08:16:07 PM
Not sure if there were any Championship scores on here, but Cruppny drew, and Killeavy were bate by maghery 0.12 to 0.10.  

Joke of a referee, gave Maghery a point early on that was DEFINATELY wide, booked three Killeavy men in the first half for very little, then put Karl O'Hare off at the start of the second for handbags at best.(2nd yellow)

The most bizarre incident happened about 15 minutes into the first half or less.  As fhe game was stopped for a Maghery free around the right corner forward position, Maghery's wing half forward walked off the field - subbed as everyone on the line thought,but he wasn't limping/ visibibly injured. and didn't look annoyed in the slightest to be called ashore so early.
The Maghery number 18 jogged on, and straight down to hit the free, with his left, straight over the bar!

Then off the field he jogs, to high-fives all round, while the still-non-plussed half forward returns to his place on the park!

Never mind english football, this is American gird-iron, and not an eye-brow raised by any of the officials, despite, as you can imagine, a wee bit of clamour from the Killeavy team and followers. - Blood substitution apparently - but with no blood, and not even a pretense of injury - maybe nothing untoward actually did happen, and Dixie/ Maghery was playing within the rules??? but there is something wrong somewhere - amidst all the sour grapes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 19, 2007, 08:20:31 PM
Quote
The most bizarre incident happened about 15 minutes into the first half or less.  As fhe game was stopped for a Maghery free around the right corner forward position, Maghery's wing half forward walked off the field - subbed as everyone on the line thought,but he wasn't limping/ visibibly injured. and didn't look annoyed in the slightest to be called ashore so early.
The Maghery number 18 jogged on, and straight down to hit the free, with his left, straight over the bar!

Then off the field he jogs, to high-fives all round, while the still-non-plussed half forward returns to his place on the park!
:o
was stanfield playing?

cruppen will be delighted with a draw. 

Maybe dromintee realise now they can beat cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on August 19, 2007, 08:22:58 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 19, 2007, 08:20:31 PM
Quote
The most bizarre incident happened about 15 minutes into the first half or less.  As fhe game was stopped for a Maghery free around the right corner forward position, Maghery's wing half forward walked off the field - subbed as everyone on the line thought,but he wasn't limping/ visibibly injured. and didn't look annoyed in the slightest to be called ashore so early.
The Maghery number 18 jogged on, and straight down to hit the free, with his left, straight over the bar!

Then off the field he jogs, to high-fives all round, while the still-non-plussed half forward returns to his place on the park!
:o
was stanfield playing?

cruppen will be delighted with a draw. 

Maybe dromintee realise now they can beat cross?

Don't think so pint, I  think they will feel they can play with them but they have not proven they can beat them and will need to get off to a better start the next day.

Cross will take them again I am afraid.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardasell on August 19, 2007, 08:24:29 PM
Yes, Stanno and Stevie were all we had up front first half, and he made a few vital contributions near then end.  we went 10 - 6 down after the sending off, then came back to 10 each, and had the beating of them at that stage as they completely shit it, but we lost our composure in the last 10 minutes, took 4 or 5 wrong options, and the rest is history for another year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 19, 2007, 08:27:46 PM
Ive no sympathy then.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardasell on August 19, 2007, 08:32:55 PM
thankfully I didn't come on here looking for sympathy, and certainly not from a Bridge man.  Were we not supposed to play Stansfield then? Didn't get that memo.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 19, 2007, 08:36:29 PM
Quote from: ardasell on August 19, 2007, 08:32:55 PM
thankfully I didn't come on here looking for sympathy, and certainly not from a Bridge man.  Were we not supposed to play Stansfield then? Didn't get that memo.
If a player gets a straight red he's banned, didn't yous get that memo either?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 19, 2007, 08:38:23 PM
Crossmaglen & Dromintee - A Draw
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardasell on August 19, 2007, 08:41:55 PM
Funny how he was playing then.  Surely he would not have gotten away with playing while suspended.  you would think, just maybe, he didn't get a straight red after all.  And if he didn't, should we not have played him anyway, in case it annoyed you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 19, 2007, 08:44:05 PM
Well it helps with a ref puts in a report that suits yous.

Did he not get a straight red a few weeks ago?  Funny that people seen him getting it. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 19, 2007, 08:52:31 PM
Dromintee were the better team and definitely didn't deserve to lose, even though it took a really soft free from Jimmy McKee to level it at the death.

Gareth O'Neill and Dyas ran the 2nd half.  Cross had no midfield, and I was mystified as to where Tony Mac was playing,  I thought he would have been better employed at centre field.
Cross showed amazing accuracy on the first half when they raced off to an 8-1 lead, but their lack of ball possession almost told in the end.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on August 19, 2007, 09:01:58 PM
Cross v Dromintee replay on the same time as Kerry v Dublin ::) Interesting to see if the bumper crowd will be out again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on August 19, 2007, 09:08:10 PM
5-Times wrote: Holy Fcuk, how did they manage to come back from 6 points down?
Answer: By scoring 6.
Anyone see Maghery's equalising point? The keeper had a ball in his hand when a back kicked out another ball and it ended up over the bar. Does this include 2 balls in play?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on August 19, 2007, 09:15:32 PM
Left straight after the game tonight.  Does anyone know if the draw for the semis was made?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 19, 2007, 09:17:57 PM
From what I hear Killeavy were lucky to have even 14 on the field.

Just back from the Bridge. 8-1 down your thinking no way back. the 3 scores before half time were crucial. Half time 8  - 4.

Second half was even until an Gaughran goal levelled. Dromintee went one up then Cross replied with two scores to seemingly win it. Dromintee scored a 14 yard free with last kick of game. Was it a free? Fort me yes. Three men surrounding the player dragging him, alot of refs would of called over carrying but for me I think he correctly gave the free in.

Hard hitting game, no real dirt at all. Entertaining stuff.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 19, 2007, 09:34:45 PM
entertaining football in the bridge tonight. some great score taking and a phenomenal second half from dromintee. to come back from 8-1 down against the all ireland club champions to take the lead with minutes to go took guts and true to form the rangers showed their charachter again. delighted it was a draw to see them go at it again.

Gaughran had the winning of the game when dromintee went one up (in no small part due to himself). he cut in from the left with a man hanging out of him and had martin o'rourke steam off his shoulder but swung a tired right boot at it.

credit both teams.

p.s. the bridge is an awful pitch. massive hill and very very narrow.


Quote from: 5iveTimes on August 19, 2007, 07:13:01 PM
Big crowd out at Silverbridge to watch Dromintee get their annual beating by Cross.

ever the football sage 5times
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 19, 2007, 09:50:25 PM

Quotep.s. the bridge is an awful pitch. massive hill and very very narrow.
::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 19, 2007, 10:18:22 PM
cross v dromintee replay on next saturday night in silverbridge at 6pm
cruppen v tir na nog replay on next sunday at 2 in abbey park - the draw for the semi-final will take place in abbey park after the game.

all in all there wasnt much in either game of the quarter finals over the weekend, cruppen played terrible and had been over reliant on minor player stephen loughran who came on as a sub in the second half to get the scores, pitch wasn't too bad but i do feel that a bigger pitch would have suited cruppen better than abbey park!

dromintee and cross reminded me of fermanagh and tyrone in the ulster championship this year, certainly got the feeling mid-way thru the second half that dromintee could have won it, dyas and o'neill had been excellent for dromintee, was waiting on cathal o'rourke to come on and hit that 45 that aidan dropped short. entertaining and hard hitting game off football all the same, unfortunately cant see anything other than a cross victory the next day! i hope i am wrong
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on August 19, 2007, 10:31:35 PM
Quote from: 5iveTimes on August 19, 2007, 07:13:01 PM
Big crowd out at Silverbridge to watch Dromintee get their annual beating by Cross.
funny enough they did not get there annual beating, to come back from 8-1 at half time they are just as good as cross, so if i was you i wouldnt be writing off dromintee just yet. we`ll just have to wait and see what happens next week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 19, 2007, 11:09:49 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 19, 2007, 08:20:31 PM

was stanfield playing?

cruppen will be delighted with a draw. 

:D :D :D i think cruppen have a bit more ambition than that pog!!

and yes stanfield was playing, and should have got his marching orders....again! think everyone in the county knows about the previous "two yellows" he got

maghery deserved the win with lavery the only county player on show that produced a good performance at abbey park. mcdonnell missed what seemed an easy free with 2 in it, and killeavy got another just after it which would have drawn the game. the extra man didnt do maghery any favours as killeavy came back from 5 points down to 10 each before maghery got the winning 2 scores. presume the killeavy lad got a second yellow for mouthing at the ref which seemed to be a common feature with the ball being moved up time and time again. when will people learn???

must say the lad coming on to kick a free (from which he scored an excellent point) raised a few eyebrows in the stand. next we'll be playing in superbowls!  :D :D :D

Cruppen missed chances to tag on a few scores near the end that would have sealed victory. that said the porty equaliser came from a quick kick out by a defender, even though the keeper was setting a ball up on his tee at the other side of the goal. ref said he just "let it go"??? Then awarded a free to porty in the last minute which was taken quickly and intercepted by a cruppen defender, only for the ref to bring the ball back for the free to be retaken. justice was served when the ball went wide.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 19, 2007, 11:14:18 PM
Quotei think cruppen have a bit more ambition than that pog!!
that's nice but I was being sarcastic as yous have a problem with fixtures piling up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on August 19, 2007, 11:37:24 PM
anportmor beat ballyhegan 0-7  -  0-5

anybody have the lasest tables
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 19, 2007, 11:50:04 PM
Was at the Cross - Dromintee game and as a neutral I thought Jimmy McKee was a disgrace.  Marty O'Rourke should have got a straight red for his strike on the young corner back in the first half, but instead he give's marty's marker a yellow.

He also blew a cross half forward up i think for catching a clean kickout and then at the end he gives a fifty which never was & to top that of he  give Marty O'Rourke a free, when he should have blown for over carrying.

I hate picking out individuals, but Marty O'Rourke must be the biggest mouth in the country.  He was constinently at his marker trying to get him sent off and the dives he was getting away with was a joke.
If this is the best Ref in Armagh, he needs to look at himself in the mirror , it looked very clear to me that he was doing everything for Dromintee to snatch it.
If teams need the ref as well to beat cross then the standard outside cross must be pretty poor to say the least.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: countygeal on August 19, 2007, 11:59:15 PM
was at the cruppen tir na og game 2 day! 2poor teams dont think they will make much of an impact in the later stage of the championship! only no18 came on for cruppen they were dead and buried! he was doing wat the other player were afraid 2do run at defenders and take a score and in totally i think he was top scorer and was only on 20 mins! over heard some 1 say he is a loughran! is that 1 of the late peters sons?

the stanfeild sending off beggs 2ask questions but hes a county player of course hes going 2 get off wit it he didnt do that much 4them anyway in my opion! the game could have went either way maghery took there chances and thats that! do they meet the winners of cruppen/tirnaog next round?

also i hear there is talk of dyas leaving 4austraila?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 20, 2007, 12:00:51 AM
Hha Goh you certainly are on the wind up. Would the same apply to Hearty in nets seeing as he was yapping the whole match too?

Would the Cross number 7 not consider himself very lucky to be on the field? I did not see any Cross men complain about that 45.

Hard game, ref done well. Decisions evened themselves out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 20, 2007, 12:14:01 AM
Your right corn, I did see hearty exchanging a few verbs with Marty alright, but i  think his antics don't do him any favors at all.  He's a very good player, but a f**k'in yap most of the time on the pitch and this lets him down to be honest.  In saying that they don't really have much up front without him.  I was standing prety close to his strike in the first half, which to be fair was probably on the blnd side of the ref, he does this then acts the complete w**ker diving around like a clown.

If i were referee'in and he starting acting like that I'd show him a straight red, which is going to happen sooner or later, he could be a passanger in hind sight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 20, 2007, 06:54:05 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on August 19, 2007, 10:18:22 PM
was waiting on cathal o'rourke to come on and hit that 45 that aidan dropped short.

Was it not the sub keeper who came on and hit the 45?

Wrong decision I thought, as it was the first time he had swung his leg all day, definitely too much to ask.  At least he didn't put it dead.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 20, 2007, 08:12:32 AM
I think you're right SJ, it was the sub keeper. surely if you were going to take a man on to hit that free it was cathal o'rourke?

McKee did a good job all day i thought. a few dubious decisions each way here and there but very good overall performance. It's difficult to explain that to the kiddies (especially the ones who've gotten their daddies to go to the trouble to set up a username for them). McKeown was a lucky boy to stay on the field as i counted 5 personal fouls in the first 15 minutes and aidan o'rourke could have walked for a high challenge on mckenna but swings and roundabouts.

Armagh don't have many refs of McKee's calibre and especially very few who can withstand the cross "influence", so its a pity he can't do the replay.

Interesting after the game yesterday that the replay was immediately announced for next sunday then later the teams were informed it would be in 2 weeks time. The fact that john murtagh isn't eligible to play until the second week after his american stint wouldn't have influenced the change in heart?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 20, 2007, 08:38:34 AM
I'm sure we'll all agree that last night's game showed that JK was again right in his failure to start Kevin Dyas in the championship this year, I mean there's absolutely no football in the lad  ::)

I was a disappointed in McKenna, who has previously been talked up as a possible midfield starter for the county - he seemed to mistime every leap.

Was the Cross Number 13 Tony Kernan?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 20, 2007, 08:42:46 AM

13 was tony kernan. he had a quiet game yesterday but generally i've thought him a good footballer. Dyas had a great second half and along with his 2 (?) midfield partners (o'neill and o'rourke) and martin o'rourke, dragged dromintee back into the game. big o'neill gave an exhibition of fielding in the last fifteen and McKenna just wasn't able for him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nabman on August 20, 2007, 09:31:00 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on August 20, 2007, 08:38:34 AM
I'm sure we'll all agree that last night's game showed that JK was again right in his failure to start Kevin Dyas in the championship this year, I mean there's absolutely no football in the lad  ::)

I was a disappointed in McKenna, who has previously been talked up as a possible midfield starter for the county - he seemed to mistime every leap.

Was the Cross Number 13 Tony Kernan?

no football in the lad!! wat u on about -  the boy has undoubted quality.

played the ogs saturday nite and we cud have beat them, but they managed to hold on. though dessie blew it up very sharp but overall he had a good game. good luck to the ogs in the next round.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 20, 2007, 09:34:31 AM
Quote from: nabman on August 20, 2007, 09:31:00 AM

no football in the lad!! wat u on about -  the boy has undoubted quality.


Really..........................  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 20, 2007, 09:44:27 AM
Quote from: Uladh on August 20, 2007, 08:12:32 AM
I think you're right SJ, it was the sub keeper. surely if you were going to take a man on to hit that free it was cathal o'rourke?

McKee did a good job all day i thought. a few dubious decisions each way here and there but very good overall performance. It's difficult to explain that to the kiddies (especially the ones who've gotten their daddies to go to the trouble to set up a username for them). McKeown was a lucky boy to stay on the field as i counted 5 personal fouls in the first 15 minutes and aidan o'rourke could have walked for a high challenge on mckenna but swings and roundabouts.

Armagh don't have many refs of McKee's calibre and especially very few who can withstand the cross "influence", so its a pity he can't do the replay.

Interesting after the game yesterday that the replay was immediately announced for next sunday then later the teams were informed it would be in 2 weeks time. The fact that john murtagh isn't eligible to play until the second week after his american stint wouldn't have influenced the change in heart?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 20, 2007, 09:56:20 AM
Quote from: Uladh on August 20, 2007, 08:12:32 AM
I think you're right SJ, it was the sub keeper. surely if you were going to take a man on to hit that free it was cathal o'rourke?

McKee did a good job all day i thought. a few dubious decisions each way here and there but very good overall performance. It's difficult to explain that to the kiddies (especially the ones who've gotten their daddies to go to the trouble to set up a username for them). McKeown was a lucky boy to stay on the field as i counted 5 personal fouls in the first 15 minutes and aidan o'rourke could have walked for a high challenge on mckenna but swings and roundabouts.

Armagh don't have many refs of McKee's calibre and especially very few who can withstand the cross "influence", so its a pity he can't do the replay.

Interesting after the game yesterday that the replay was immediately announced for next sunday then later the teams were informed it would be in 2 weeks time. The fact that john murtagh isn't eligible to play until the second week after his american stint wouldn't have influenced the change in heart?

I take it thats me you are refering to uladh,  sorry to disappoint you,but daddy didn't set it up for me, I quite capable of doing that for myself.  I agree there was a few challenges by Mckeown, but Marty's antics are a joke, as I said in my prevoius post he's a good player and lets himself down a bag full with his clown act.  I totally disagree with you on McKee's day out.  as I said prevoius as a neutral from Louth he gave Dromintee alot more than cross, did aidan even get a ticking for his challenge, not that i seen.
I was speaking to a few lads in the crowd & apparently that was cross's first game in 8 weeks apart from challenge games which never have the same bite.  I think they will be more deadly the next day out and I'd be very surprised if they let a 7 point lead go again.
also heard last night that the game is fixed for next saturday, same venue
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on August 20, 2007, 10:08:28 AM
was at the cruppen game and felt they let victory slip, they were 2 points up and missed a few scoreable chances, thought kelly had a good game as did young Loughran, would fancy them to put Tir na nog away next week.
interesting to note that cruppen were 3 down at half time and diesal smuggler slipped onto the sidelines for the second half to give some tactical advice :o ::) causing the second half comeback to the management, maybe he`ll be part of grimbo`s backroom staff
btw diesal smuggler where was morgan and bennett, also noted harold watching from the stand (whats wrong with him)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on August 20, 2007, 10:26:38 AM
was at the cross-dromintee game, i think the ref was very fair to both team didn't let cross away with their usual antics.  pity he cannot referee the replay because he is the fairest armagh have got.

i hear cross was looking the game change to sunday week so that John Murtagh would be available to play. why was murtagh suspended?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 20, 2007, 10:31:34 AM
Didnt think the standard of football was that good last night, but the Dromintee comeback made it an exciting game.
Bar a few bad tackles, though the game was clean, suprisingly few hard hits in it.
Superb second half comeback by Dromintee with O Neill winning everything in the middle & Dyas picking up a lot of loose ball & driving through the Cross defence.
IMHO Mc Entee should have been moved to the middle a lot sooner as this is were Cross were losing the game.
Was suprised at Cross calling Hanratty ashore as he was out in front of Eddie Martin everytime & laying the ball off. Cross played down the same wing the whole 2nd half & didnt switch play at all - which is very unlike Cross.
Thought the referee gave the majority of 50/50 calls to Dromintee & the free at the end was dubious to say the least.
This result will have given Dromintee great heart & a bit of belief which they seemed to be lacking in previous encounters-but as in so many replays the favourites should prevail in the replay.
Is it fixed for next Saturday? Anyone know what time?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on August 20, 2007, 10:46:46 AM
Whens the replay?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 20, 2007, 03:02:41 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on August 20, 2007, 08:38:34 AM
I'm sure we'll all agree that last night's game showed that JK was again right in his failure to start Kevin Dyas in the championship this year, I mean there's absolutely no football in the lad  ::)

are you having a laugh???

the lad is one of best prospects coming from the minor team that won ulster a few years back. remember he dragged the abbey to hogan cup glory aswell. catch a grip!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 20, 2007, 03:08:25 PM
Quote from: naka on August 20, 2007, 10:08:28 AM
was at the cruppen game and felt they let victory slip, they were 2 points up and missed a few scoreable chances, thought kelly had a good game as did young Loughran, would fancy them to put Tir na nog away next week.
interesting to note that cruppen were 3 down at half time and diesal smuggler slipped onto the sidelines for the second half to give some tactical advice :o ::) causing the second half comeback to the management, maybe he`ll be part of grimbo`s backroom staff
btw diesal smuggler where was morgan and bennett, also noted harold watching from the stand (whats wrong with him)

morgan and bennett are away on holidays, as for harold, he cant train or even strip out for what is a huge match for the club as he has "glandular fever". Manys a man played with a lot worse than that to hold them back!

thought kelly was a bit loose especially when carville moved out the field. hes not really a man marker. still gave a solid performance though. a lot more expected from some other players for the next day out.

p.s. smuggler is some boy!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 20, 2007, 03:12:06 PM
is sarcasm lost in armagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 20, 2007, 03:37:57 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 20, 2007, 03:12:06 PM
is sarcasm lost in armagh?

Never mind sarcasm, noticing emoticons are obviously missing in Armagh as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 20, 2007, 04:00:13 PM
Goh 4205, This is not the first time Jimmy mc kee has been slightly biased towards Dromintee :D :D. On the issue of o Rourke slabbering this is also well documented take a look back at the posts on muzzles. Uladh gets all defensive when jimmy mc kee is criticised for some reason. Then he tries to attack posters on a personal level because he hasn't the intelligene to argue with facts. The final point is that if Mc Kee did favour Cross in the game on sunday then you can be assured that he won't referee another cross game in the championship the year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 20, 2007, 04:20:33 PM
well I'm glad someone else thinks he was a p***k and not just me.  I could have picked holes in a load of other silly things that he done.  My concern is really for players, no matter were they come from or play for.  when they train so hard to go out and get the kind of harsh treatment from a individual who may have an other motives is pretty sad, then again it even happens in the professional game as well!!   Liverpool/Chelsea yesterday.
regarding uladh,  he must be an ogs man by his comments and his defensive mode for Jimmy. ::)  Maybe he was thinking if if I give cross f**k all and they loose, then surely the Ogs have a better chance of beating Dromintee more so than Cross, or is that been to cynical.

From what I hear from a few lads today, they would do anything to get rid of Cross, pretty sad if this is the case when the best team to come out of Armagh & Ulster for years and probably never to be repeated, it's a very sad reflection on gaelic football and on fellow gaels.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 20, 2007, 04:22:43 PM
Went up to the Ogs and Ballymacnab game, was just wondering how much was it in to the rest of the games at the weekend?

7pound into watch a club game when you'd pay the same to get in an watch Armagh in Clones! Who decides the entrance fee? Thank god for the student rate lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 20, 2007, 07:01:13 PM
£7 is a bit steep.
Hopefully the replays will be reduced to £5.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 20, 2007, 07:13:51 PM
county board to reduce the admission fee to £5 for the replays are you mad in the head?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 20, 2007, 07:56:35 PM
i hear on the grapevine that the draw for the minor championship was not entirely done right. a tullysaran man was sayin the draw they would like would be to avoid the south armagh teams (cross, cullyhanna and cruppen). the reply he got from a member of the county board was that he wouldnt have to worry about it. sure enough, they got granemore... Not the first time this carry on has happened either.

The draw for the senior championship was to be made after the cross and dromintee match, but it is now moved to next sunday after the cruppen and tir na nog game (the last game in the quarter finals). Why could it not have been drawn out anyway last weekend?? The question is why does the county board need to know exactly who is in the semi finals before making the draw??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 20, 2007, 08:09:09 PM
And you're surprised at this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 20, 2007, 10:27:58 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 20, 2007, 04:00:13 PM
Uladh gets all defensive when jimmy mc kee is criticised for some reason. Then he tries to attack posters on a personal level because he hasn't the intelligene to argue with facts.

:-* i couldn't have scripted a more ironic post for you. if you're an example i'm glad i don't have the intelli gene. DNA ain't what is was.

Catch a grip of yourself goh4205. With the standard of refereeing in this county over the past couple of years, you are going to the bother of registering on this board to complain about a referee who got a couple of decisions wrong for both teams. McKee was excellent on sunday night and any referee who is able to maintain a level playing field with the amount of intimidation Crossmaglen bring to bear on him should be commended.

You are obviously a crossman and while everyone has club blinkers on you cannot be serious about the decisions you picked out.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 19, 2007, 11:50:04 PM
Was at the Cross - Dromintee game and as a neutral I thought Jimmy McKee was a disgrace.  Marty O'Rourke should have got a straight red for his strike on the young corner back in the first half, but instead he give's marty's marker a yellow.

did you imagine this? McKeown finally received a yellow card for his fourth personal foul on o'rourke. he should have been off.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 19, 2007, 11:50:04 PM
He also blew a cross half forward up i think for catching a clean kickout

stand side in the first half. blatant push in the back by mcnamee.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 19, 2007, 11:50:04 PM
and then at the end he gives a fifty which never was

i was in the stand and from 100m its difficult to see minor deflections. there was hardly a complaint from the cross players though and the only argument were from the 2 cross mentors who actually arrived on the 50 yard line to contest the decision! i'm sure that helped in the long run...

Quote from: goh4205 on August 19, 2007, 11:50:04 PM
to top that of he  give Marty O'Rourke a free, when he should have blown for over carrying.

Very marginal decision but 3 players tackling one forward more often than not results in a free in. hardly a "disgrace" as you label it.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 19, 2007, 11:50:04 PM
From what I hear from a few lads today, they would do anything to get rid of Cross, pretty sad if this is the case when the best team to come out of Armagh & Ulster for years and probably never to be repeated, it's a very sad reflection on gaelic football and on fellow gaels.

Of course. Everyone should follow protocol and roll over for the mighty rangers

What is startling is that Cross didn't get every 50:50 decision for once.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armamike on August 20, 2007, 10:34:31 PM
Enjoyable game between Cross and Dromintee, a draw being a fair result over the 70 mins.  Cross were the much more efficient of the teams with their chances at the start of the game. Dromintee showed good character to come back strongly.  As has been said, Dyas and O'Neill were very good in the second half - the two best performers on the pitch.  Dyas is great to watch in full flow - he put Cross on the back foot with his direct running and was able to pick out some great passes. Aidan O'Rourke and Eddie Martin were good as usual.  Tony McEntee was very good at full back but the problem for Cross is that his presence is missed out the field.  Interesting to see the county CHF played at wing forward!  Michael O'Rourke was kept very quiet.  Any time i've seen him against Cross he doesn't seem to have the physical strength/presence to get any joy out of the Cross backline.  If Dromintee can get him more into the game (it's a big if) in the replay they will have a decent chance.   They will also need Cathal on the pitch for the freetaking.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hitzelsperger on August 20, 2007, 10:41:22 PM
I hear Dromintee and Armagh are going to lose Kevin Dyas to the AFL, any truth??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on August 20, 2007, 10:55:37 PM
Quote from: hitzelsperger on August 20, 2007, 10:41:22 PM
I hear Dromintee and Armagh are going to lose Kevin Dyas to the AFL, any truth??

NO!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hitzelsperger on August 20, 2007, 10:58:27 PM
well my sources tell me he will be joining marty clarke at collingwood very soon...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on August 20, 2007, 11:13:07 PM
Well who told you that? The replay is on staurday at 6.oo o clock.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 20, 2007, 11:13:53 PM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 26 AUGUST 2007


Wednesday 22 August

ACL – Div. III (7.15)
Middletown v Clonmore (Joe Murtagh)

All-County 'B' League – Group B (7.15)
Carrickcruppen v Madden (Mickey Leonard)


Thursday 23 August

All-County Under-16 League – Group A (7.15)
Shane O'Neill's v Clann Eireann (Henry McCloy)
Keady v Crossmaglen (Kevin McNeice)


Friday 24 August

ACL – Div. III (7.15)
Middletown v An Port Mor (Joe Murtagh)

ACL – Div. IV (7.15)
Shane O'Neill's v Dorsey Emmett's (Sean McClatchey)


Saturday 25 August

Senior Football Championship Quarter-Final Replay (6.00)
Crossmaglen v Dromintee (Brendan Gorman) at Silverbridge

Minor Football Semi-Final (6.00)
Granemore v Tullysaran (Malachy McNicholl) at Pearse Og Park


Sunday 26 August

Intermediate Football Championship Final (6.30)
Culloville v Whitecross (Gerard Devlin) at Crossmaglen

Under-16 Football Championship Final (5.00)
Ballymacnab v St Patrick's (Stephen Murray) at Crossmaglen

Senior Football Championship Quarter-Final Replay (2.00)
Carrickcruppen v Tir na nÓg (Noel Martin) at Abbey Park

ACL – Div. I (12.00)
Maghery v Clan na Gael (Dessie McDonnell)

ACL – Div. II (12.00)
Ballymacnab v Clann Eireann (Kevin McNeice)
Carrickcruppen v Granemore (Off)
St Patrick's v Keady (Kevin Murtagh)
St Peter's v St Michael's (Tony O'Hare)
Annaghmore v Silverbridge (Sean McClelland)  Great, that tool!
Killeavey v Wolfe Tones (Seamus O'Neill)

ACL – Div. III (12.00)
Clady v Collegeland (Brendan Gorman)
Clonmore v Crossmaglen II (Gary Smith)
An Port Mor v Lissummon (Ronan Quigley)
St Paul's v Middletown (Frank McDonald)
Ballyhegan v Sarsfields (Noel Martin)
Madden v Tullysaran (Paudie Hughes)

ACL – Div. IV (12.00)
Phelim Brady's v Belleek (Stephen McKinley)
Grange v Corrinshego (Kevin Gallogly)
Dorsey Emmett's v Eire Og (Jimmy McKee)
Mullaghbrack v O'Hanlon's (Damian McConville)
Derrynoose v Shane O'Neill's (Oliver Hearty)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on August 20, 2007, 11:17:47 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 20, 2007, 11:13:53 PM


Annaghmore v Silverbridge (Sean McClelland)  Great, that tool!


No need for that!! Yor very roud no wonder nobody like you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 20, 2007, 11:34:32 PM
Quote from: Uladh on August 20, 2007, 10:27:58 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 20, 2007, 04:00:13 PM
Uladh gets all defensive when jimmy mc kee is criticised for some reason. Then he tries to attack posters on a personal level because he hasn't the intelligene to argue with facts.

:-* i couldn't have scripted a more ironic post for you. if you're an example i'm glad i don't have the intelli gene. DNA ain't what is was.

Catch a grip of yourself goh4205. With the standard of refereeing in this county over the past couple of years, you are going to the bother of registering on this board to complain about a referee who got a couple of decisions wrong for both teams. McKee was excellent on sunday night and any referee who is able to maintain a level playing field with the amount of intimidation Crossmaglen bring to bear on him should be commended.

You are obviously a crossman and while everyone has club blinkers on you cannot be serious about the decisions you picked out.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 19, 2007, 11:50:04 PM
Was at the Cross - Dromintee game and as a neutral I thought Jimmy McKee was a disgrace.  Marty O'Rourke should have got a straight red for his strike on the young corner back in the first half, but instead he give's marty's marker a yellow.

did you imagine this? McKeown finally received a yellow card for his fourth personal foul on o'rourke. he should have been off.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 19, 2007, 11:50:04 PM
He also blew a cross half forward up i think for catching a clean kickout

stand side in the first half. blatant push in the back by mcnamee.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 19, 2007, 11:50:04 PM
and then at the end he gives a fifty which never was

i was in the stand and from 100m its difficult to see minor deflections. there was hardly a complaint from the cross players though and the only argument were from the 2 cross mentors who actually arrived on the 50 yard line to contest the decision! i'm sure that helped in the long run...

Quote from: goh4205 on August 19, 2007, 11:50:04 PM
to top that of he  give Marty O'Rourke a free, when he should have blown for over carrying.

Very marginal decision but 3 players tackling one forward more often than not results in a free in. hardly a "disgrace" as you label it.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 19, 2007, 11:50:04 PM
From what I hear from a few lads today, they would do anything to get rid of Cross, pretty sad if this is the case when the best team to come out of Armagh & Ulster for years and probably never to be repeated, it's a very sad reflection on gaelic football and on fellow gaels.

Of course. Everyone should follow protocol and roll over for the mighty rangers

What is startling is that Cross didn't get every 50:50 decision for once.

Well once again i'm sorry to disappoint you that I'm not from Cross, but louth as i stated before and before you ask i do know people from Cross like you know people from lurgan/portadown or wherever.

I'm not gonna waste my time getting into an who did what, I was stating my point which i'm intitled to do & for that you seem to have no other choice but to attack me personally. maybe you and Jimmy have a thing going :o :o :o  and winsamsoon said you seem to go on the defensive whenever someone has a go at jimmy, so clearly a wee sore point for you, then again maybe you are Jimmy the man.  On another point you are clearly an Ogs man and your f**k'in scared shitless of Cross winning knowing you's present no challenge what so ever if you even make it that far. 
And  a final point to end on, you are clearly not liked on this board judging by some previous posts, everybody can't be wrong about you surely :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 20, 2007, 11:41:01 PM
QuoteOn another point you are clearly an Ogs man and your f**k'in scared shitless of Cross winning knowing you's present no challenge what so ever if you even make it that far.
And  a final point to end on, you are clearly not liked on this board judging by some previous posts, everybody can't be wrong about you surely
who are you on about?



oi rufus! I'm hurt, over on orchardcounty asking people for help!  Is there something wrong with us?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 20, 2007, 11:51:36 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 20, 2007, 11:41:01 PM
QuoteOn another point you are clearly an Ogs man and your f**k'in scared shitless of Cross winning knowing you's present no challenge what so ever if you even make it that far.
And  a final point to end on, you are clearly not liked on this board judging by some previous posts, everybody can't be wrong about you surely
who are you on about?



oi rufus! I'm hurt, over on orchardcounty asking people for help!  Is there something wrong with us?

Don't worry pints it's not you, read back a page & you'll see who i mean.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 20, 2007, 11:53:43 PM
Oh I know it's not me but neither winsamsoon or uladh are ogs men.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 21, 2007, 12:10:16 AM
Well i wouldn't want to be either according to what i hear re: there preformance against Ballymacnab.  Winsamsoon suggest uladh gets very touchy when someone has a go at jimmy mckee, and from what i've read a few posts back I think he's right.  So I made an assumption from this that he was an ogs man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 21, 2007, 12:47:28 AM
I think i also stated a few pages back that when teams are and have been successful in the past (ie Cross present/ clans Past) People let jealousy eat away at them and they adopt a policy of hatred towards a particular team. Where as my personal few would be to wish teams like the Cross good luck in the championship, the obvious exception being if they were playing the clans  :D. Iam all for winning at any costs in football but when certain members ie referees or any official in particuar enters the field of play to deliberately cheat then this takes things to a different level. Uladh i have no idea what that ironic post you made a couple o pages ago meant. But you do seem to get very touchy when anyone mentions jimmy mc kee. Maybe you are his bookie  :D ( I know this was an unproven rumour before you bring this up pints as your usual sharp self)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 21, 2007, 01:02:15 AM
huh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on August 21, 2007, 01:45:14 AM
Pints

Couldnt be worse than some we have had this year.
Title: GOH425
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 21, 2007, 07:36:11 AM
So your from Louth and not from Cross, sure its the same place is it not, plenty of former Louth men playing for Cross  :P
Title: Re: GOH425
Post by: thebandit on August 21, 2007, 07:49:58 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 21, 2007, 07:36:11 AM
So your from Louth and not from Cross, sure its the same place is it not, plenty of former Louth men playing for Cross  :P

And Culloville men, and Cullyhanna men!!!


Speaking of which, no word on here of the Intermediate final, Culloville must be slight favourites
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2007, 08:51:51 AM
Quote from: goh4205 on August 21, 2007, 12:10:16 AM
Well i wouldn't want to be either according to what i hear re: there preformance against Ballymacnab.  Winsamsoon suggest uladh gets very touchy when someone has a go at jimmy mckee, and from what i've read a few posts back I think he's right.  So I made an assumption from this that he was an ogs man.

The fact of the matter is that on saturday night the Ogs met up with a Nab team that showed great grit and determination.  Nobody had given the Nab a chance before this game.  I had previously predicted a draw and was told to wise up on this board.  I wasn't far wrong.  I thought the Nab players showed great spirit in the match and showed that in championship football it's all down to the day.  Their players got a massive round of applause when leaving the field, and well they deserved it.

Goh4205 You're obviously only on here as a WUM, there seems to be alot of venom in your posts, and as far as your comment about the Ogs performance is concerned I won't take any offence, we are still in the championship after all
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: plain man on August 21, 2007, 09:26:25 AM
The reports about Kevin Dyas heading to Collingwood to play Aussie Rules are true - they're ready to fly him over once Dromintee are out of the Championship

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=361318

I've mixed feelings about this, big loss to Armagh and huge loss to Dromintee - but I reckon he can make a go of it.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 21, 2007, 09:38:56 AM
fair play to the nab for giving the ogs a game.i gave them no chance personally and have been made to eat my words.would gareth o neill be close to the new county panel when the new man comes in?saw a few u21 games and he was quite good big brute of a lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 21, 2007, 10:18:16 AM
If true, Dyas is going to be a massive loss to Dromintee in the future. Although O'Neill won the high ball it was Dyas more than anyone who drove at the Cross defence in the 2nd half.
On the subject of the referee, I too thought he gave the majority of tight calls to Dromintee - especially the free at the end ::)
Uladh, you have made a few points regarding Cross influencing officials. It was from both teams on Sunday night. Heard COR, f**king hell, he didnt shut his mouth the whole time - giving out to the ref, linesmaen etc etc etc etc
Hard to look past Cross for the replay, as Dromintee had their biggest chance for years on Sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 21, 2007, 10:20:04 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2007, 08:51:51 AM
Quote from: goh4205 on August 21, 2007, 12:10:16 AM
Well i wouldn't want to be either according to what i hear re: there preformance against Ballymacnab.  Winsamsoon suggest uladh gets very touchy when someone has a go at jimmy mckee, and from what i've read a few posts back I think he's right.  So I made an assumption from this that he was an ogs man.

The fact of the matter is that on saturday night the Ogs met up with a Nab team that showed great grit and determination.  Nobody had given the Nab a chance before this game.  I had previously predicted a draw and was told to wise up on this board.  I wasn't far wrong.  I thought the Nab players showed great spirit in the match and showed that in championship football it's all down to the day.  Their players got a massive round of applause when leaving the field, and well they deserved it.

Goh4205 You're obviously only on here as a WUM, there seems to be alot of venom in your posts, and as far as your comment about the Ogs performance is concerned I won't take any offence, we are still in the championship after all

There's not a lot of venom in my posts and I'm not a WUM, I was stating my point and somebody is very touchy about the individual i was refering to. i shouldn't hav to keep  pointing out were i'm from when you consider Dromintee is as close to county louth as Cross is.  What really anoys me about alot of the posters on here is the can't stand a team that does really well.   If other teams were good enough then why have they won so much, at least winsamsoon have the intelligence to accept this & give Cross the respect they deserve.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 21, 2007, 10:43:53 AM

Thats the boy. you keep harping away and cling to the only halfwit on the board who gives you any credance for backing. for your information, winsamsoon is sore about his club conceding a late goal to knock them out of the championship when McKee was refereeing (nothing to do with terrible defending mind).

Are you really to have us beieve that the referee was the rason that cross didn't win on sunday. could the paltry return of 4 points in the last 40 minutes (more if you include both injury times) not have had a bearing? you're from cross. no neutral could be so blind to the ups and downs of championship football. you're assertion that everyone is out to get cross tells the true story. where have you been for 10 years when cross have trampled over clubs, rules and county boards unabated?

winsamsoon - i'll type this very slowly so you can understand...
the irony was you were chastising me for lack of intelligence but couldn't even spell the word correctly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2007, 10:56:08 AM
It's not too often that someone from cross is on here complaining about the Referee.  It's like Uladh has already said about Cross trampling over the rest of the county.  Referee's over the years have suffered under intense pressure from the Cross contingent.  now when something doesn't go all your own way there's a whole uproar. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Red Hurley on August 21, 2007, 11:20:26 AM
Trying to edge in among these footballs, anyone got any predictions on the Armagh Hurling Championship? Can Keady comeback from last years disappointment or are Middletown just too strong?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 21, 2007, 04:42:42 PM
Took in the Killeavey v Maghery and Cross v Dromintee games at the weekend.  Maghery should have won a lot easier than they did, I thought they were guilty of taking their foot of the pedal when 5 points in front, they let Killeavey back into it and could have paid the price, but were clearly the better team IMO.  Didn't see the afters in the stand.

Cross v Dromintee was a good game, at 8-1 it looked like curtains, but fair paly to Dromintee they fought back and deservedly got a least a draw.  Nearly all of Dromintee's bigname players stepped up to the mark.  My MOTM would have been between the fantastic Eddie Martin or Marty O'Rourke who was fighting a lone battle for most of the first half, O'Neill, Dyas and AOR all put in great shifts, but Dromintee have glaring deficiencies - especially at CHB.  There are a few other weaklinks in the Forward line that could be the difference in the replay.  Finally I thought Jimmy McKee had a great game in charge, and (speaking to someone who was talking to him) he gave the final free because the Dromintee player got hit in the nads when he was tackled by 3 or 4 men.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 21, 2007, 06:54:55 PM
Thank you Benny, some people on here tyhought Martin O Rourke was not excellent on Sunday, those who say that do not know football.

GOH I am not going to answer you because I try to avoid WUMs.

On Sunday both defences were superb in different halfs. The replay will be interesting as both teams will feel they underperformed in certain areas.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 21, 2007, 07:00:11 PM
Once again Uladh you have highlighted the fact that you cannot have a debate without trying to make personal insults towards other posters. Well done for reading each post so thoroughly though as to pick out such a huge mistake. Oh and i won't get into the bad doings we have had at the hands of wee jimmy and his wee brother in law. El Cue, i am not a Cross man but  will call a spade a spade. I know Cross have had their fair share of decisions from referees but we are not talking about Cross this time The original post stated that the ref gave all 50/50 decisions to Dromintee, plus a soft free at the end. I merely pointed out that it wasn't the first time we jimmy was leniant to Dromintee. I have nothing against Dromintee or Cross so thereroe i have no hidden agenda or malice clouding my vision. By the way Uladh i am away to get a dictionary, perhaps you could send me one???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 21, 2007, 07:26:45 PM
So verbal attacks on fellowe posters is not ok but verbal attacks on players are alright, is that the way it works winsamsoon?

It has been a few years since we beat you in that semi get over it man, quit hanging onto phantom excuses.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 21, 2007, 10:19:25 PM
The way i see it corn people are entitled to their opinion on anything. If O' rourke for example is mouthing at referees then he is doing it so i am entitled to state this. I would hardly call that a personal attack if it is clearly visible on the field. You may be a dromintee supporter but you can still notice this. As i can admit that we have a few mouths playing or us. Also i assume you are refering to the penalty incident a few years back when you mention phantom. It was that clear cut an incident you don't even know who was supposed to have given the penalty away. Sure i will tell you it was Dwyer Mc Alinden supposedly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 21, 2007, 10:43:55 PM
Your a champ uladh, you probably never kicked a ball in your life, well at a competitive level anyway.  I would feel abit left out, but I'm not the only poster to notice wee jimmy's faults (which were plenty). if I was from cross I'd say it & be proud of it.

As for corn02 i wouldn't expect anything else from you, since your from Dromintee, but can you confirm that AOR told wee  jimmy to go f**k himself during the match, and when he called him back he said it again & followed it with (Don't annoy my f**k'in head) if that would have been anybody else from any other team it would have been a straight red, but it proves my point from an earlier post that wee Jimmy did have another motive, and was clear for all to see.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: plain man on August 22, 2007, 02:56:17 AM
Am I reading this wrong - or has John Campbell jumped the gun a bit here

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/article2878947.ece

Pearse Ogs to Meet Cross' ???? ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 22, 2007, 07:49:49 AM
Id say he has inside information or that its a ploy by a relative  ;D

Furthermore what reasons did the county board give for not making the draw after the Cross v Dromintee match as was stated last night

It just makes the County board look more incompetent than it already is!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 22, 2007, 08:14:12 AM
Quote from: plain man on August 22, 2007, 02:56:17 AM
Am I reading this wrong - or has John Campbell jumped the gun a bit here

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/article2878947.ece

Pearse Ogs to Meet Cross' ???? ::)

Jumped the gun a bit surely.  Saw this yesterday and was a bit shocked.  Is the draw not supposed to be on sunday After the replays?  No luck to dromintee, apparently you don't have to turn up on saturday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 22, 2007, 08:21:15 AM
I don't think the writer of the article would write the headlines?
If he does it's very odd, no matter who his relations are.


On side note, how does campbell get away with writing such local stuff in the  Belfast Telegraph? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 22, 2007, 08:33:34 AM
He's in the hall of fame now....can do as he pleases!!  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on August 22, 2007, 08:44:54 AM
The Nicky Rackard Cup was always the priority for the Hurlers and Hurling board of Armagh this year, thats why the semi finals of the Senior Championship had been fixed for the 8th of September. The non-county playing members of Cuchulainns and Middletown have been training from the start of the season for this fixture. Its shows the total disrespect to Hurling still exists in this county that the county board has now earmarked the football semi finals for this date, esp now that the Pearse Ogs are involved leaving several players involved in the two fixtures. The Hulers have been told to sort it out by moving forward or back a week or even Sunday the 9th which is a nuisance due to Holidays weddings etc. I know this might not seem a huge problem to many of this board but I just thought it needed highlighted after all the back slapping the county board has received this year over their promotion of Hurling this year. Anyone think this could easily have been avoided given Armaghs interest in the football c'ship has ended for some time now.

Rant over........

Any thoughts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 22, 2007, 08:55:02 AM
Spirit,

Typical county board!

Just as bad as the county board over here in London, some of there actions, decisions and shannigans over here this summer have been ridiculous

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 22, 2007, 09:57:21 AM

GOH - what is you're point again?

Quote from: goh4205 on August 21, 2007, 10:43:55 PM
As for corn02 i wouldn't expect anything else from you, since your from Dromintee, but can you confirm that AOR told wee  jimmy to go f**k himself during the match, and when he called him back he said it again & followed it with (Don't annoy my f**k'in head) if that would have been anybody else from any other team it would have been a straight red, but it proves my point from an earlier post that wee Jimmy did have another motive, and was clear for all to see.

And you say you're not fom cross...

:o




there are so many inaccuracies in that John campbell article. cross aren't through. ogs are not now "through to the quarter fnals". no draw for the semis yet (so far as the ordinary punter knows anyway).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 22, 2007, 10:16:07 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 21, 2007, 10:19:25 PM
The way i see it corn people are entitled to their opinion on anything. If O' rourke for example is mouthing at referees then he is doing it so i am entitled to state this. I would hardly call that a personal attack if it is clearly visible on the field. You may be a dromintee supporter but you can still notice this. As i can admit that we have a few mouths playing or us. Also i assume you are refering to the penalty incident a few years back when you mention phantom. It was that clear cut an incident you don't even know who was supposed to have given the penalty away. Sure i will tell you it was Dwyer Mc Alinden supposedly.

Jesus can you not let it go man. there is therapy for this sort of mania. sure who outside of clans is going to know your individual players anyway?

marty o'rourke certainly falls into the paul galvin category of antagonistic feckers. part of the game. for those who can't handle it they should take up knitting. the bias is evident when someone who was at this game singles out one prominent player for this while not mentioning the biggest culprit, hearty, who just happens to be on the other team.

neither of you two internet warriors have made a coherent argument to convince anyone that the refs in armagh are out to get cross (or to help dromintee).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 22, 2007, 10:28:49 AM
MOR is a WUM, no doubt about it. But that is the type of player he is, if you cant accept it-feck off. He unsettled Cross on Sunday & both JD & Hearty exchanged pleasantries with MOR at various stages of the game. Will he have as big an influence on the game on Sunday? I doubt it IMHO.

On the subject of the referee, without going into who is out to get who, I honestly feel he gave the majority of 50/50's to Dromintee. I have no idea if he went out with a vendetta against Cross (doubt it). The free at the end was a cop-out decision IMHO.

goh4205-you say AOR told the ref to fcuk off, would love to know how you heard this ???
If he did say it, he is just the latest in a long line of county/ex-county players who get off with this type of thing during the course of games. No point in bringing this up to add 'weight' to your argument
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shooter on August 22, 2007, 10:41:21 AM
Was the semi-final draw for the championship made last night? I heard that Tir na nÓg/Cruppin got Maghery and the Ogs will play the winners of Cross and Dromintee?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 22, 2007, 11:55:18 AM
Uladh i am quite happy to let things go, however i was responding to a post from corn, it was he who stated the name phantom. I was merely correcting him for his inaccuracy as you do for my spelling :) ;D. But i can let it go.

So was this draw made last night or is it to be made after the Cross game as stated?????????????????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 22, 2007, 12:36:03 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 22, 2007, 11:55:18 AM
Uladh i am quite happy to let things go,

Two years on, there is evidence to the contrary...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 22, 2007, 12:47:20 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on August 22, 2007, 08:33:34 AM
He's in the hall of fame now....can do as he pleases!!  :P

But I don't get it! I don't read his articles too often but it's either local stuff (sometimes county) or something Houlie has been at or involved in.

Sure why not if he gets paid for it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 22, 2007, 06:15:48 PM
Is Houlie not a relation of Campbell's?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 22, 2007, 06:26:52 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on August 22, 2007, 06:15:48 PM
Is Houlie not a relation of Campbell's?

Aye I think campbell is houlie's father father in law??  Definitely related some way. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on August 22, 2007, 10:57:46 PM
Indeed consider Campbell's Monday article in the Belly Telly, this doesn't seem to give much chance to Dromintee!

Rangers next for Pearse Og after Ballymacnab scare
Monday, August 20, 2007
By John Campbell

Armagh Pearse Og were given a severe fright by Championship newcomers Ballymacnab in the quarter-finals of the County Senior Football Championship at the weekend.
Pearse Og, who have now booked themselves a trip to perennial champions Crossmaglen Rangers, just managed to edge out their feisty opponents on a narrow 1-7 to 0-9 scoreline.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 23, 2007, 10:45:53 AM
Quote from: Shooter on August 22, 2007, 10:41:21 AM
Was the semi-final draw for the championship made last night? I heard that Tir na nÓg/Cruppin got Maghery and the Ogs will play the winners of Cross and Dromintee?

I still haven't heard there's been any draw made for the senior championship semis, but its probbly been made in paddy og's head anyway.

wht about the intermediate final? there could be two more contrasting styles for a game in the county. the big and direct culloville against the small and agile whitecross. the manner of their semi final win could instill a sense of "name on the cup" in whitcross but a good big'un usually beats a good wee one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on August 23, 2007, 11:27:40 AM

is there any betting up on intermediate championship final yet? what is people views on it? id call whitecross 2 take it.  there will be a good game on before the intermediate final also, u16 all county final between ballymacnab and cullyhanna!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 23, 2007, 11:32:45 AM
true enough point there uladh in reference to name being on the cup.

Grimley seems to be the new man with him resigning from cavan.Is there anybody that people think deserbve a chance on the panel?Read yesterday in irish news oisin may stay on for one year but i feel though an armagh legend his contribution from play has been limited over recent times and impact sub may be his best role if any.

Hope that Toal and Vernon get some serious action this year.Toal is the type of scoring threat we have been crying out for in the half forward line think he would complement o'rourkes work rate and mallons direct running.

From club football this year has anyone seen anyone that could push for a place that wasnt previously on panel?Whatever happened gareth smyth.Remember he was excellent for u21s few years back.How is Greg Loughran doing after his injury can any ogs men say?  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 23, 2007, 12:30:30 PM
Locky has been on great form this year. He's been consistently one of our best players this year.  definitely would be an choice for a call up.

Nippy swift has also had a great year for the Harps since being dropped.  He was excellent against us when they beat us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 23, 2007, 12:38:41 PM
el cuervo do you think that he would be good enough to push for a starting place?saw swift once this year playing v clan nagael in abbey park was very impressed had a good range of passing and was able to come in round the middle and catch a good few kickouts.APPANTLY HE WAS ON THE BEER THE WHOLE DAY PREVIOUSLY AND THAT POSSIBLY LIES THE PROBLEM
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 23, 2007, 12:50:39 PM
I could definitely see him pushing for a place in the half forward line.  his fielding and reading of the game is outstanding.  He's also strong as an ox and can take some great scores.

Dunno what the story with Nippy was, but i'd say he was gutted.  The Harps would have been happy enough to have him back for their league campaign though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 23, 2007, 01:15:13 PM
Swift is a good player but i'm not so sure if he'd be a regular for armagh under different management, it's hard to know what his best position is? Greg Loughran is a fine big honest player as well who can take a hit again i'm not so sure if he'd be a regular either.

If we were being totally honest with ourselves i think Kernan had the best players in Armagh with the county panel, we always used to slabber in north Armagh that Kernan was biased because he hated Lurgan people (and he prob does) but the reality was that there was no-one else there he could pick that was better than what he already had. we tend to be a bit more biased towards guys that play for our own clubs and say Kernan should have given him a chance but you'll prob find he wansn't that far away with his players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 23, 2007, 03:15:21 PM

Both Swift and Loughran are better footballers than this years centre forward and given a fraction of the same chances, would develop into realistic options for the county team. certainly they are capable of winning ball as well as taking their man on and scoring & passing under pressure. three attributes armagh's man on the forty unbelievably didn't possess this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 23, 2007, 03:47:39 PM
Quote from: Uladh on August 23, 2007, 03:15:21 PM

Both Swift and Loughran are better footballers than this years centre forward and given a fraction of the same chances, would develop into realistic options for the county team. certainly they are capable of winning ball as well as taking their man on and scoring & passing under pressure. three attributes armagh's man on the forty unbelievably didn't possess this year.

In fairness all of Armagh's half forward line is rank. Well maybe rank is too strong but they don't have no scoring threat.

it's crop you have to watch your spelling now as lads are calling people dim for the odd spelling mistake. When your boss is behing ya and you need to type like fcuk the odd spelling mistake will appear. :o ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Against the Breeze on August 23, 2007, 04:07:43 PM
Right,

For talks sake,  Would posters like to take a stab at Armaghs best 20 or more players that in their opinion should be on the panel this year? Goalkeepers et al
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 23, 2007, 05:42:57 PM
illdecide
QuoteIf we were being totally honest with ourselves i think Kernan had the best players in Armagh with the county panel, we always used to slabber in north Armagh that Kernan was biased because he hated Lurgan people (and he prob does) but the reality was that there was no-one else there he could pick that was better than what he already had. we tend to be a bit more biased towards guys that play for our own clubs and say Kernan should have given him a chance but you'll prob find he wansn't that far away with his players.

Were there players of similar ability not picked?   


I think if some of those boys on the panel are the best in the county God help us! 


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bredaghgael on August 23, 2007, 05:44:30 PM
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Bredagh GAC's Annual Talk Night takes place this year in the Wellington Park Hotel on Friday 31st August at 9pm.The Eastwood Bookmakers sponsored event has regular pundits Martin Breheny (Irish Independent) Paddy Heaney(Irish News)and Barney Eastwood back again this year..The evening is compered by Jerome Quinn (BBC).Confirmed guests this year are Joe Brolly (RTE pundit) and Graham Geraghty(Meath).Others will be announced closer to the event.There will be a draw for two All-Ireland Football & Hurling tickets on the night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on August 23, 2007, 09:01:33 PM
McConville may give county scene another year


Armagh and Crossmaglen Rangers star forward, Oisin McConville has not ruled out playing another season with the Orchard county despite the imminent change in county team-management.

A number of Armagh players are expected to step down in the wake of Joe Kernan's decision to retire from inter-county team-management.

Oisin McConville, Kieran McGeeney, Diarmaid Marsden, Paul McGrane and Enda McNulty are players all on the wrong side of 30 and they could well call it a day at the end of this season.

"I personally haven't decided yet about my inter-county future,'' said McConville. "I will make a decision around November because it would be pointless to make a decision on my future now. I promised myself when I was 20 I would retire when I was 28 – but I will be 32 years old in October. It is definitely getting harder, even at club level, but I will wait and see.''


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on August 23, 2007, 10:48:43 PM
Quote from: Against the Breeze on August 23, 2007, 04:07:43 PM
Right,

For talks sake,  Would posters like to take a stab at Armaghs best 20 or more players that in their opinion should be on the panel this year? Goalkeepers et al

Is that you Mr Grimley?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 24, 2007, 10:26:33 AM
Lads you are correct in what you are saying about the current Armagh half forward line not holding any scoring threat. However what you have to realize is that they are not really picked for their scoring threat. In Kernans setup Armagh's half forwards have become another 3 defenders. Their job is to hunt around the middle for breaking ball and at the same time squeezing and frustrating the life out of the opposition. Armaghs game plan consisted of two phases. It was to pull everyone back including the half forwards. Suck a corner forward out (which was Marsden ) and leave mc Donnell and Mc Conville up front for Diagonal balls in. The key component that was missing was the fact that when Mc Conville and Mc Donnell got the ball there was no one coming through to support them. Swift and Loughran would be excellent in this scenario but so would Toal, O Rouke, Mallon, and S Kernan if they were let. But i am afraid big joe has instilled too many defensive mindsets in our men for them to play this role.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on August 24, 2007, 10:30:59 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 24, 2007, 10:26:33 AM
Lads you are correct in what you are saying about the current Armagh half forward line not holding any scoring threat. However what you have to realize is that they are not really picked for their scoring threat. In Kernans setup Armagh's half forwards have become another 3 defenders. Their job is to hunt around the middle for breaking ball and at the same time squeezing and frustrating the life out of the opposition. Armaghs game plan consisted of two phases. It was to pull everyone back including the half forwards. Suck a corner forward out (which was Marsden ) and leave mc Donnell and Mc Conville up front for Diagonal balls in. The key component that was missing was the fact that when Mc Conville and Mc Donnell got the ball there was no one coming through to support them. Swift and Loughran would be excellent in this scenario but so would Toal, O Rouke, Mallon, and S Kernan if they were let. But i am afraid big joe has instilled too many defensive mindsets in our men for them to play this role.

Mc Donnell and McConville left inside for the big diagonal balls? I dont think so. McConville has been in the half forward line i believe since 2003. McDonnell and Clarke yes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 24, 2007, 10:59:21 AM
wins,that is a valid point in reference to joes tactics.hope a more expansive gameplan is used this term by grimley or whoever is in charge.if we have clarke playing to his potential think of the many scores we can get with half forwards supporting the full forward line
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 24, 2007, 11:15:01 AM
Yeah charlie, that is why Clarke is such an asset because he can win dirty ball and hold it up for players running onto it. He can also take a score himself which makes him virtually unmarkable at times. Lets just hope he can return from the injury back to his usual self. I also agree that whoever takes over should have more strings to their bow because it was all becoming a little predictable in the past few years. The game plan was to keep mc Donell and mc conville in and play diagonal balls and i didn't state when this was. There is an incessive need for some posters on this board to try and prove everyone else wrong. They sit and scrutinize every word typed and then go totally of the current debate to try and belittle someone. Try to keep to the topics and by all means give you opinion but not at the expense of someone else.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 24, 2007, 11:15:33 AM
Quote from: maddog on August 24, 2007, 10:30:59 AM
Mc Donnell and McConville left inside for the big diagonal balls? I dont think so. McConville has been in the half forward line i believe since 2003. McDonnell and Clarke yes.

Not this year nor last Maddog. This year it was Stevie and oisin up and last year it was Clarke and Stevie with oisin playing "in the hole" in front. i think both position for oisin were acknowledgement from management that his legs were gone as oisin is never a ball winner. last sundy evening was further proof of that, at a level well below intercounty.

I'm not sure winsamsoon's anlysis is entirely correct. obviously o'rourke was dropping his year when armagh lost the ball but the same could not be said for McKeever & Kernan. McKeever got up to support occasionally but he's siimply not fit enough to do it. Kernan supported the inside line very little, but thats more to do with his avoidance of traffic.

Interestingly, the only two forwards on the pitch last sunday evening who looked county standard were martin o'rourke and john mc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on August 24, 2007, 11:46:40 AM
Quote from: Orior on August 23, 2007, 10:48:43 PM
Quote from: Against the Breeze on August 23, 2007, 04:07:43 PM
Right,

For talks sake,  Would posters like to take a stab at Armaghs best 20 or more players that in their opinion should be on the panel this year? Goalkeepers et al

Is that you Mr Grimley?

:D :D. I wouldn't be surprised if it was!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on August 24, 2007, 11:57:04 AM
Seriously fancy us for the replay on sunday.Just heard that we have mcalister back and that would be a major boost for us on the scoring front! Brian mallon however is struggling with an injury again. If dromintee don't choke then it could throw the championship wide open!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on August 24, 2007, 12:03:46 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 24, 2007, 11:15:01 AM
There is an incessive need for some posters on this board to try and prove everyone else wrong. They sit and scrutinize every word typed and then go totally of the current debate to try and belittle someone. Try to keep to the topics and by all means give you opinion but not at the expense of someone else.

Noone was trying to belittle you, i was calling it as i saw it. A discussion board will always have opinions (the whole point) and often at someones expense, often at mine. Dont take it personally lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 24, 2007, 12:06:19 PM
Quote from: pdown79 on August 24, 2007, 11:57:04 AM
Seriously fancy us for the replay on sunday.Just heard that we have mcalister back and that would be a major boost for us on the scoring front! Brian mallon however is struggling with an injury again. If dromintee don't choke then it could throw the championship wide open!

I'm sure the portydown players love to see you coming on the board to mouth off
You were strangely subdued there for a while when portydown were beating the door down to get to Div 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on August 24, 2007, 12:06:44 PM
McAllister will be a big help to you you boys and could sway the game.

If Dromintee don't choke? I assume by this you mean you want Dromintee to beat cross and give everyone else a chance of winning the championship? sure why don't you beat cross yourselves?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 24, 2007, 12:17:02 PM
Quote from: full back on August 24, 2007, 12:06:19 PM
Quote from: pdown79 on August 24, 2007, 11:57:04 AM
Seriously fancy us for the replay on sunday.Just heard that we have mcalister back and that would be a major boost for us on the scoring front! Brian mallon however is struggling with an injury again. If dromintee don't choke then it could throw the championship wide open!

I'm sure the portydown players love to see you coming on the board to mouth off
You were strangely subdued there for a while when portydown were beating the door down to get to Div 2

Fair play to ya Full Back. A porty man has finally appeared on the board again :D. I thought they had all been interned :o

Pints there are other guys in the county with similar ability than those within the panel but obviously Joe thought the attitute of the ones he had was better than the guys he left off. The Harps men said so themselves about their guy who loves his soup do you think JK doesn't know about these guys. The county is full of guys like that, Clann Eireann have a guy called Ryan Henderson and bar S McDonnell there is not another forward in Armagh that is as talented as he is but he is yella and has not got the commitment and attitute needed to be a intercounty footballer so therefore he is useless and there are hundreds of guys like this floating about and they are at our clubs so we all think they should be playing for Armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 24, 2007, 12:28:14 PM
played football with henderson myself immensely talented but he doesnt have the head for the county imo.if he kicks the first point he normally scored 1-9 but if he missed that was the common theme for the rest of the game.a good man to man manager may be able to instill the right attitude in him.he would be the kind of fella that would need to be starting dont really think that he would go to the panel to get number 30
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on August 24, 2007, 12:32:38 PM
Quote from: full back on August 24, 2007, 12:06:19 PM
Quote from: pdown79 on August 24, 2007, 11:57:04 AM
Seriously fancy us for the replay on sunday.Just heard that we have mcalister back and that would be a major boost for us on the scoring front! Brian mallon however is struggling with an injury again. If dromintee don't choke then it could throw the championship wide open!

I'm sure the portydown players love to see you coming on the board to mouth off
You were strangely subdued there for a while when portydown were beating the door down to get to Div 2

where in my first post was i "mouthing off"? i just stated that i fancy our chances against carrickcruppen, would that be a crime? to be honest, i just feel that our clan na gael friends are a bit "envious" of not being at this stage of the championship! am i right? ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 24, 2007, 12:36:43 PM
Quote
Pints there are other guys in the county with similar ability than those within the panel but obviously Joe thought the attitute of the ones he had was better than the guys he left off. The Harps men said so themselves about their guy who loves his soup do you think JK doesn't know about these guys. The county is full of guys like that, Clann Eireann have a guy called Ryan Henderson and bar S McDonnell there is not another forward in Armagh that is as talented as he is but he is yella and has not got the commitment and attitute needed to be a intercounty footballer so therefore he is useless and there are hundreds of guys like this floating about and they are at our clubs so we all think they should be playing for Armagh

I understand the point your making but I wasn't talking about players who haven't the attitude there are similar quality players who have the right attitude but would never get a look in for whatever reasons. 

Quote

where in my first post was i "mouthing off"? i just stated that i fancy our chances against carrickcruppen, would that be a crime? to be honest, i just feel that our clan na gael friends are a bit "envious" of not being at this stage of the championship! am i right?
Aye I'm sure they wish they were at the bottom of division 1.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 24, 2007, 01:04:49 PM
Quote from: pdown79 on August 24, 2007, 12:32:38 PM
Quote from: full back on August 24, 2007, 12:06:19 PM
Quote from: pdown79 on August 24, 2007, 11:57:04 AM
Seriously fancy us for the replay on sunday.Just heard that we have mcalister back and that would be a major boost for us on the scoring front! Brian mallon however is struggling with an injury again. If dromintee don't choke then it could throw the championship wide open!

I'm sure the portydown players love to see you coming on the board to mouth off
You were strangely subdued there for a while when portydown were beating the door down to get to Div 2

where in my first post was i "mouthing off"? i just stated that i fancy our chances against carrickcruppen, would that be a crime? to be honest, i just feel that our clan na gael friends are a bit "envious" of not being at this stage of the championship! am i right? ;D

Like i said Porty you's have already played your championship final (against the clans) and thats sad, and maybe just maybe when you's get over the next 2 rounds we will be a bit envious of Porty
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on August 24, 2007, 01:11:21 PM
still fancy the crupps to win this , they can`t play any worse than last week
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 24, 2007, 01:14:37 PM
fancy portadown to come through the replay they have nothing to play for now with them condemned to division 2 next year more or less and mcallister will be worth a few scores.id say the game will end up being irrelevant though as the winner will surely fall at the next fence
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 24, 2007, 01:46:47 PM
Well Pints lets hope the new manager has some other fresh talent in mind and that we are a bit more attack minded in our play.

And not forgetting a few lads getting the curley finger that are on the panel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on August 24, 2007, 01:53:54 PM
Come on Dromantee!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 24, 2007, 05:00:30 PM
pdown of course we are envious of Tir Na Nog being in the next round because unlike yo our club has ambitions. I we were still in the championship and this is a big if thn we certainly wouldn't be asking Dromintee to do us a favour and beat cross. Why was Mc Allister not playing in the last game???? Would it have something to do with soccer???  think this sums the whole issue up. You are going to play a lad who has shown where his loyalties lie, a week after drawing in a championship game that he never attended. If i was the player who was dropped i would have a few words for the manager. Other than that i wish you all the best at the weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on August 24, 2007, 09:47:33 PM
I agree, winsamsoon
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on August 24, 2007, 10:38:36 PM
all i was trying to say was that if dromintee beat crossmaglen,or if any team did for that matter, it would blow the whole thing wide open, and im sure you would agree as they are big favourites to win the championship, as they are every year! our team are not any less ambitious as any other team and to say that the championship match against the clans was our "final" is wrong..fair enough, our league form has been terrible, but the lads have been turning up in numbers at training, even when the times have been bad. As for mcalister, i think he was away playing for northern ireland u21s and i seriously doubt that he will be starting the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on August 24, 2007, 10:53:01 PM
anportmor beat middletown by 2 points tonight. good game middletown were 4 up at half time but portmor came out and scored 3 points in the first 2mins of second half. great win for an portmor joint top now with madden and sarsfields with 7 games left
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Datsun Donaghy on August 24, 2007, 11:03:47 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 24, 2007, 12:17:02 PM
Quote from: full back on August 24, 2007, 12:06:19 PM
Quote from: pdown79 on August 24, 2007, 11:57:04 AM
Seriously fancy us for the replay on sunday.Just heard that we have mcalister back and that would be a major boost for us on the scoring front! Brian mallon however is struggling with an injury again. If dromintee don't choke then it could throw the championship wide open!

I'm sure the portydown players love to see you coming on the board to mouth off
You were strangely subdued there for a while when portydown were beating the door down to get to Div 2

Fair play to ya Full Back. A porty man has finally appeared on the board again :D. I thought they had all been interned :o

Pints there are other guys in the county with similar ability than those within the panel but obviously Joe thought the attitute of the ones he had was better than the guys he left off. The Harps men said so themselves about their guy who loves his soup do you think JK doesn't know about these guys. The county is full of guys like that, Clann Eireann have a guy called Ryan Henderson and bar S McDonnell there is not another forward in Armagh that is as talented as he is but he is yella and has not got the commitment and attitute needed to be a intercounty footballer so therefore he is useless and there are hundreds of guys like this floating about and they are at our clubs so we all think they should be playing for Armagh

Quotehe county is full of guys like that, Clann Eireann have a guy called Ryan Henderson and bar S McDonnell there is not another forward in Armagh that is as talented as he is but he is yella and has not got the commitment and attitute needed to be a intercounty footballer so therefore he is useless

It takes a lot of guts to name a lad in this manner and hide behind an alias - hope this didn't happen to you when you played for the county!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: say nothin on August 25, 2007, 04:15:59 PM
what time is Cross V Dromintee game tongiht?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on August 25, 2007, 04:22:52 PM
6pm  - back in the bridge.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on August 25, 2007, 05:46:19 PM
Quote from: say nothin on August 25, 2007, 04:15:59 PM
what time is Cross V Dromintee game tongiht?


Is this match going to be on the internet ?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PatDaly on August 25, 2007, 07:10:20 PM
15 minutes left and the score is Dromintee 0-02 Crossmaglen0-07
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 25, 2007, 07:32:47 PM
f**k me a hour and half of my life and 7 quid I'll never get back  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on August 25, 2007, 07:34:21 PM
what was the final score in cross game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 25, 2007, 07:39:04 PM
I left a few minutes before the end and it was 9 - 2.

It was 5 - 0 at half time, Dromintee didn't score until ten minutes into the second half.  Atrocious game, maybe both teams would have been happier fighting it out down in the carpark!

Cathal O'Rourke was sent from the line to the stand in the first half and then he came on as a sub with a few minutes left  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PatDaly on August 25, 2007, 08:01:42 PM
Final Score: Dromintee 0-02 Crossmaglen 0-10
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 25, 2007, 09:16:37 PM
The game was close until the ball was thrown in. On a more entertaining note, a certain mr Cathal o' rouke was sent off into the stand whilst in a managerial position for what else???? Yes slabbering at the referee. He actually went onto the field to confront the ref when his brother was not awarded a free kick. But the best is still to come. After having been sent off he then brought himself on as sub. :D :D :D Surely this can't be legal???? I am interested in the replies.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 25, 2007, 09:25:10 PM
to be fair Martin O'Rourke was after been pushed to ground and stood on by cross number 4.

(He did throw his leg up and near kicked the fella in the face and did the same to John Donaldson in the second half) 

Compare that to the soft free kick oisin got in the same place at the beginning of the second half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 25, 2007, 09:52:25 PM
A couple of things about this evenings game at Silverbridge.
Was £7 admission fee not a bit steep for a replay.  Surely £5 would have been sufficient especially for families from both clubs?
Regarding Cathal O'Rourke sending off and out of pitch side by the referee.  What rule in the Official Guide gives a referee authority to send anyone outside pitch side?
When the referee did sent O'Rourke off why did he let him come on as a subsitute for Dromintee?
There was only one team in it this evening and that was Crossmaglen Rangers who shot at least a dozen wide balls during the first half, still scored ten, could have had a goal whilst limiiting Dromintee to just two points - the first of which arrived after forty minutes of this game.
Crossmaglen will be hard to beat and I cannot see any of the remaining four teams toppling them as they go for a dozen titles in a row.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 25, 2007, 10:25:23 PM
I think i ask that question exile. You know the one why o' rourke was allowed to come on after being sent off. Oh and a ref has the authority to send any official from the pitch during a game, this can be found in the official rule book. Pog o'rourke was hit with a fair shoulder that is why he fell so to say he was pushed is wrong. Granted the cross guy then stood over him and he threw his feet in the air. The ball should have been thrown up. Despite the decision Cathal O' Rourke has no right entering the field of play to protest. He sould stay on the sideline and leave his grievances in writing after the game. He should also have left the field of play at half time peacefully as it was a disgrace that a team who do so much buming and blowing couldn't manage a single score in the first half of a championship game. It looks like after 2007 Dromintees roll of honour will still read nothing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 25, 2007, 10:32:53 PM
QuotePog o'rourke was hit with a fair shoulder that is why he fell so to say he was pushed is wrong. Granted the cross guy then stood over him and he threw his feet in the air.

No.  He was pushed as he was bending over for the ball (actually I think he was pushed to the ground twice) and the cross number 4 had his boot on O'rourke's chest.  If that's not a free I don't know what is!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 25, 2007, 10:56:47 PM
Well yourself and i were both at the game and we can't agree on an interpretation of the incident so i guess to criticise a ref (as O'Rouke did) was not the correct thing to do.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on August 26, 2007, 12:48:57 PM
Regardless of whether O'Rourke was right or wrong, it sounds like Dromintee got an almight hiding from Cross - is anybody going to stop them now ? They're a awesome team - will O'Rourke now get a suspension ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on August 26, 2007, 01:44:35 PM
an portmor beat lissummon by 8 points today. any1 got any other results from division 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 26, 2007, 01:46:24 PM
No complaints here totally outplayed in all areas of the field. 2 points speks for itself. John McEntee was excellent.

Winsamsoom you are a prat of the highest order, 2007 will also record Clans being sumped out by a useless Tir Na Nog team, why we may have been brutal yesterday we gave them a good run the first day.

My one moan is that Cross supporters and it is quite a big number of them are perhaps the trampiest in Ireland? Spitting at subs, throwing stones and booing players is something I thankfully do not see at club games much apart from Cross games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 26, 2007, 01:56:05 PM
Sarsfields defeated Ballyhegan this afternoon, in Ballyhegan.

They stormed into a 9 pont lead at half time, though tht Davitts fought tremendously hard in the 2nd half to bring the sides back level with 5 minutes to go, only for the Derrytrasna men to get a late goal. I think they ended up winning by 4points.

Great 2nd half performance from the Davitts though, considering 15 men turned up (injury/suspension & holidays hitting hard!)...missing the likes of Paddy McKeever, Paul Courtney, & Chris O'Caroll to name but three.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, Sasfields brought a fairly focal support with them...(Paul McGrane got a bit of abuse, for reacting 'aggresively' to some of the physical abuse he was getting the whole game)...but at one stage one of them shouted "Are ye even a Catholic at all" - to the referee. Feck we all burst out laughing!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 03:10:03 PM
The bridge beat annaghmore by 2.

Some craic in annaghmore.  The worst Bridge performance I've seen in a long long time.  Annaghmore led for most of the game, 3 and 4 points in it and the bridge robbed them right at the end.  I think there was probably 3 between the teams with around 5 minutes to go.  Our winning scores came a couple of minutes into injury time though the ref went ahead and played 8 or 9 minutes which was bizarre because apart from annaghmore timewasting at times there were no injuries in the second half!
The ref gave Annaghmore a 50, it was taken and while the ball was in mid air he blew up for full time much to everyone's dismay. 

Fair play to the lads for keep going even though it seemed like they could do nothing right. 

It's nice to be on the right side of some very dodgy refereeing (for a change!) but the home crowd weren't to pleased and I think the ref was taking some of their players names after full time.   


Hard luck David, yous didn't deserve that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on August 26, 2007, 03:10:55 PM
Senior Football Championship Quarter-Final Replay, Abbey Park, Armagh

RESULT: Carrickcruppen 1-11 Tir na nOg 0-06

Tir na nOg scored just one point in the second half

Grange 2-10 Corrinshego 1-05

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 26, 2007, 03:16:48 PM
Cullyhanna beat Keady 0-14 to 0-9. Good enough performance given the circumstances. County lads showed well - Mal mackin had a good game at midfield. Some nice stuff played at times - most of the best play going through Liam O'Hare.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 04:10:47 PM
corn
QuoteMy one moan is that Cross supporters and it is quite a big number of them are perhaps the trampiest in Ireland? Spitting at subs, throwing stones and booing players is something I thankfully do not see at club games much apart from Cross games.

I'd say in the top ten.  (Though the bridge played Donaghmore in the ulster league a few years ago and holy f**k! they were unreal!)

I was stopped by a cross man in front of the resource centre yesterday and asked "which side is the stand on"  :o
I wouldn't mind but the stand is there nearly 15 years and can be seen from Forde's Cross. 

I also was standing beside a family from cross and although civil enough they refered to their players by their numbers! 

I was particularly sickened at the jeering when Aidan O'Rourke hit a ball badly wide, it was louder than they cheered when Cross scored.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 26, 2007, 05:25:06 PM
I was on the oppisite side to the stand and some of the verbals coming from the Dromintee supporters was just as bad.  The kernans for some reason seemed to come in for the most.

I thought the ref had a good game yesterday, he made his intentions clear fom the start that he wasn't gonna take any shit from anybody.  In saying that he did miss a few things,  the strike on Oisin in the first half, the strike on AK right in front of the lines man. The challenge from behind on SK which lead to him going off,  and the elbow on the cross no. 7 by AOR right at the end.  There was also a few rash challenge's by a few cross lads as well, which warrent a mention.
There was no way that Dromintee were able to live with the intensiity that Cross set, they seemed to keep pushing and moving at 100mph throughout the game.
Any body seem what happened in the first half when COR got his marching orders!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 05:28:11 PM
We might be fit to take you seriously if you'd admit your club loyalty.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 26, 2007, 05:37:44 PM
Clans in dundalk pints.  should really make any difference just stating my point like you do so many times however one sided it may look, like your own posts i must say sometimes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 05:43:42 PM
I find it strange that a Louth man joins this board to talk about Cross and Dromintee. 
I was at the game yesterday as a neutral (I can't stand either of them) and both teams were as dirty as each other.  For the first 15 minutes there was nothing but sly, dirty, cowardly, late digs from both sets of players, cross beat dromintee at this and then decided to beat them playing football. 

How are my posts one sided, or how would you know?  Do you be at many bridge games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 26, 2007, 06:02:52 PM
I go to alot of armagh football, cause the louth football is shite basically.  Been to a few bridge games, but non of late, i must take one in soon so i can have a right pop at you then.
I would agree with you on your last post, but the difference most of the Dromintee boys didn't wanna know when it hotted up. I know the bridge & cross one's don't get on & maybe there is reasons for that which i don't know, but i find it staggering that so many negitives are posted about Cross when they are the most successful team ever in Armagh & probably Ireland and almost all of them posts are from within Armagh.  I think any county would be proud to have a club team as good as them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 06:07:32 PM
So you've no idea if my posts are one sided or not...


QuoteI would agree with you on your last post, but the difference most of the Dromintee boys didn't wanna know when it hotted up. I know the bridge & cross one's don't get on & maybe there is reasons for that which i don't know, but i find it staggering that so many negitives are posted about Cross when they are the most successful team ever in Armagh & probably Ireland and almost all of them posts are from within Armagh.
There wouldn't be a lot of love lost between any of the neighbouring clubs in south armagh. 
Sure ask yourself why there's so many negatives posted about cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 26, 2007, 06:20:26 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 06:07:32 PM
So you've no idea if my posts are one sided or not...

I was only winding you :-\


QuoteI would agree with you on your last post, but the difference most of the Dromintee boys didn't wanna know when it hotted up. I know the bridge & cross one's don't get on & maybe there is reasons for that which i don't know, but i find it staggering that so many negitives are posted about Cross when they are the most successful team ever in Armagh & probably Ireland and almost all of them posts are from within Armagh.
There wouldn't be a lot of love lost between any of the neighbouring clubs in south armagh. 
Sure ask yourself why there's so many negatives posted about cross.

jealously perhaps?????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 06:25:38 PM
Aye sure that's always the easy answer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 26, 2007, 06:30:45 PM
or perhaps they smuggle more in Cross, than in the bridge, cullyhanna or forkhill etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 06:33:35 PM
aye or it could have something to do with stealing players, annoying supporters, ruling the county board/referees. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 26, 2007, 06:34:43 PM
Corn dry your eyes, once again you have reached a new intellegiance level calling people prats. What you seem to miss is  that it doesn't matter what stage you go out a you still went out you fool.  We still have our history to brag about and in some cases be arrogant. Your club has nothing because you have never won anything in your whole existance and you never will. So in the future it would be wise to keep your mouth shut until you have atually won something. This could take some time judging by what i saw last night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 26, 2007, 06:36:40 PM
Pint i know at times you do raise some valid points but i do detect a lot of jealousy towards cross on this board. Asking Goah where he is from ??? what has this got to do with anything??? He is entitiled to his opinion no matter what.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 06:38:33 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 26, 2007, 06:36:40 PM
Pint i know at times you do raise some valid points but i do detect a lot of jealousy towards cross on this board. Asking Goah where he is from ??? what has this got to do with anything??? He is entitiled to his opinion no matter what.
Where he was from was called into question because he claimed to be a neutral when any post he made suggested a strong bias towards Cross.

As for jealously...sure you still think people are jealous of clanns  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 26, 2007, 07:30:10 PM
What's the draw for the last 4?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 26, 2007, 07:59:55 PM
Maghery V Ogs
Cross V Cruppin

U16 all county final ended a draw between St Pat's and Ballymacnab 5-6 to 2-15. Abosultely amazing game of football - most exciting I've been to in a long time. Ballymacnab looked like they had it won 2 or 3 times - 7 points up at one stage in the second half and 4 points up with a couple of minutes go. Brilliant come back from Cullyhanna.

Had to leave the intermediate final at half time - Culloville were 2-2 to 0-6 up at half time although Whitecross had most of the play. Poor enough affair I thought.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on August 26, 2007, 08:31:30 PM
Whitecross won, I think by a point. Might have been a draw, but probably a fair result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on August 26, 2007, 09:23:40 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 06:33:35 PM
aye or it could have something to do with stealing players, annoying supporters, ruling the county board/referees. 

jesus they made sum slip up when they let C. Conlon move 2 sum team in Louth then!!!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: downtown on August 26, 2007, 09:23:40 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 06:33:35 PM
aye or it could have something to do with stealing players, annoying supporters, ruling the county board/referees. 

jesus they made sum slip up when they let C. Conlon move 2 sum team in Louth then!!!!  :D :D :D
?
I don't understand the point you're trying to make.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on August 26, 2007, 10:08:35 PM
Cheers Pints

Been the story of our season unfortunately, third game that but for dodgy refereeing we might have gotten something out of.  My two big problems with the ref were first he told our manager when the game was level that the 30 minutes were up and there would be two minutes injury time.  Three minutes later you guys get the go ahead point and then ref plays another 5 minutes, now one of your lads did go down time wasting in a similar fashion to some of ours but he was only down 30 seconds.  The other problem I had was with that final 50.  Ref comes over says its the last kick of the game then blows as its in mid air, what he expect our free taker to do, drill it to the net at the speed of sound?

Some of our lads were also upset that we had the ball twice in scoring areas and there were scuffles down the other end and he stopped play and hopped the ball twice yet when you guys had the free kick for the last score he booked two players and let yous take the kick.  Unfortunately I think letter of the law he was right there and yous guys just played him.

Apart from that you could argue you guys got the majority of the soft decisions second half but I think yous deserved it as we stopped playing the last 10 mins or last 2 plus injury time.  As I say had we been on the right side of the ref this year we would probably have beaten the Nab, Newtown and gotten something from today and that looks like it could cost us
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 10:26:09 PM
david
QuoteBeen the story of our season unfortunately, third game that but for dodgy refereeing we might have gotten something out of.  My two big problems with the ref were first he told our manager when the game was level that the 30 minutes were up and there would be two minutes injury time.  Three minutes later you guys get the go ahead point and then ref plays another 5 minutes, now one of your lads did go down time wasting in a similar fashion to some of ours but he was only down 30 seconds.  The other problem I had was with that final 50.  Ref comes over says its the last kick of the game then blows as its in mid air, what he expect our free taker to do, drill it to the net at the speed of sound?
the final 50 was bizarre! I actually thought he was giving a free in or something!  Our lad wasn't even down for 30 seconds because he allowed the ball to be kicked out around him.  Where in the name of Jesus did he get 8 minutes from?  Did his watch stop?  We were sure it was over when we went that one point ahead and when we got it up there again we were actually shouting at the lads to just put it dead, I couldn't believe it when he kept playing and playing. 

Quote
Some of our lads were also upset that we had the ball twice in scoring areas and there were scuffles down the other end and he stopped play and hopped the ball twice yet when you guys had the free kick for the last score he booked two players and let yous take the kick.  Unfortunately I think letter of the law he was right there and yous guys just played him.
Nah, I'd love to say our boys would have the cuteness to do that but...no I think it was just unfortunate for yous.  It's one rule that really annoys me, why should the team with the ball be penalised?

In a majority of our games this year we've had to play the referee too so if it's any consolation we know exactly how you feel.#


Btw david, such a f**king field to find!  Yous have it well hid! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 26, 2007, 10:36:28 PM
Quote from: downtown on August 26, 2007, 09:23:40 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 06:33:35 PM
aye or it could have something to do with stealing players, annoying supporters, ruling the county board/referees. 

jesus they made sum slip up when they let C. Conlon move 2 sum team in Louth then!!!!  :D :D :D

See pints,someone is sure watching your every word whe you mention about what other clubs do :P :P :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 10:39:36 PM
But I don't know what he's going on about...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on August 26, 2007, 10:42:03 PM
Its actually not too bad if you know where your going.  As far as the watch stopping I have no idea but as I said I was more annoyed that he said thered be 2 mins injury time and then played 8
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 26, 2007, 10:46:03 PM
QuoteIts actually not too bad if you know where your going. 

That would have helped alright.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 26, 2007, 10:53:21 PM
The standard of ref's is brutal whatever county it is.  I work with a guy from the Harps club in Armagh City & he told me some months ago that a menber of their club agreed to become a club ref, he was expecting to btake part in a course of some discription, but was told to call in a pick up his uniform and that was it.  Would there be any truth to this or is it a bullshit story?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 27, 2007, 09:42:58 AM
cruppen beat tir na nog in the championship quarter final replay yesterday by 8 points in abbey park

tir na nog led by a point at half time, cruppen moved paul keenan into full-forward at the start of the second half and the aerial bombardment of high ball into the tir na nog full-back line paid dividends for cruppen as they got the vital scores to go in front and then go on to win the match very comfortably!

the first half cruppen played some terrible football often taking the wrong option and maybe another solo or a handpass out of the ball instead of getting it in early, however, in saying that tir na nog failed to capitalise on these mistakes and only led by a point at the interval.

peter loughran led his marker a merry dance scoring from impossible angles left or right foot, paul keenan began to run at the full back line who couldnt cope with his skill or pace and he placed seamus kane in for the only goal of the game to put cruppen 3 in front 10 minutes into the second half!

tir na nog started to bitch among themselves and even the waterboy for them fell to the ground in a dramatic attempt to get a cruppen player sent off! i wonder how they ever beat clan na gael in the first round they must be really bad altogether

mark rooney is playing some stuff for us it is just a pity that he won't change his county allegiance as he would be a perfect corner back for armagh!

we have drawn some team called crossmaglen in the semi-final  :-[ ;) :D ;D shit happens!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 27, 2007, 09:52:45 AM
Is that Seamus Kane from St Patick's Park?

I'm told he was a great soccer player once!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 27, 2007, 10:08:44 AM
yeah thats him alright!

he played irish league for portadown, newry town and armagh city, he still plays now for banbridge town in the b- division
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on August 27, 2007, 11:17:01 AM
How did the intermediate final go last night?

I was at the first 10 mins and Culloville went into a 4-0 lead with Gerard Callan scoring a fisted goal, they were beaten 16-15. What was the story?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 27, 2007, 11:44:59 AM

terrible game of football on saturday evening. cross set a great tempo from the beginning and dromintee just couldn't hadle it. john mcentee had a great game and how dromintee didn't put aor on him i'll never know. the supporters antics are par for the course now so no surprises any more really.

Cruppin produced a good display. well impressed with loughran. how did tir na nog get past clans?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 27, 2007, 12:46:53 PM
The one thing that really surprised me was that Dromintee kept MOR on the edge of the square for the entire first half.  They won absolutely no ball during the first 30 minutes, so I may as well have stood on the edge of the square.  Surely his strength is in making a nuisance of himself around the middle of the field?

Agree with John Mac, Rocco (I think his name is) just wasn't fit for him.  I noticed that where there were a few handbags thrown at the start of the game that John Mac threw a couple at Rocco, doubtless that would have softened him up a little.

And the lasting memory of Saturday night is that if Joe Mor was adamant of playing two of his sons on the team then Tony would have been a much better option.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 27, 2007, 12:51:06 PM
QuoteThe one thing that really surprised me was that Dromintee kept MOR on the edge of the square for the entire first half.
same here

was kernan 13?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 27, 2007, 01:00:44 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 27, 2007, 12:51:06 PM
QuoteThe one thing that really surprised me was that Dromintee kept MOR on the edge of the square for the entire first half.
same here

was kernan 13?

Tony was 13
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 27, 2007, 01:05:38 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on August 27, 2007, 01:00:44 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 27, 2007, 12:51:06 PM
QuoteThe one thing that really surprised me was that Dromintee kept MOR on the edge of the square for the entire first half.
same here

was kernan 13?

Tony was 13
Aye was thinking that.  he didn't impress me.  The only ones that looked like county players of John Mac and AK.  Aidan O'Rourke done alright but is two stone overweight. 
Stephen Kernan done nothing, though I think it was him that kicked a good point.  He seems to hide!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 27, 2007, 01:09:36 PM
diesal smuggler mark rooney wasnt even on the down panel before he joined you so doubt that he would be an ideal corner back for armagh.

was at the cross dromintee game,i have spent better fivers in my time thats for sure.cross just put donaldson infront of oneill before the kickouts and he did nothing until a bit of a ten minute worst in the 2nd half.in fairness he wasnt helped by bad kickouts and a lack of support from the half backs and forwards winning little break.

i was surprised orourke stayed on the edhe of the square but i think they needed someone in there to win the ball that was one of their main problems last wk.it was as if they needed a marty o rouke in both the half and full forward line!

if dromintee where to cause an upset they needed their big players to shinein the orouke's,dyas and oneill and cross just never let them do this
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 27, 2007, 02:08:09 PM
Pint believe it or not people are still jealous of the clans because of our past. I have stated before and broken cross bar also stated. The same is now happening to the cross because they are successful and what other reason is there for the bias towrds the cross???? Goah is from louth he has told you this can you not accept this at face value ??? My overall point was that teams and supporters shouldn't go shooting their mouths of when they have never won anything in their entire existance. Just for you uadh i threw in a few spelling mistakes on my previous posts to keep you entertained.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 27, 2007, 02:13:44 PM
winsam
QuoteThe same is now happening to the cross because they are successful and what other reason is there for the bias towrds the cross?
I've outlined reasons why they're not liked.

QuoteMy overall point was that teams and supporters shouldn't go shooting their mouths of when they have never won anything in their entire existance.
What's this about?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 27, 2007, 02:51:38 PM
charlie,

mark rooney was out of club football in down the whole of last year due to a personal dispute with newry bosco therefore ruling him out off the down county team.

i know for a fact that in the games that mark rooney has played for carrickcruppen since his transfer ross carr has had him watched on two occasions!
armagh isn't exactly coming down with good corner backs at the minute and rooney for one would have been an ideal replacement for enda mcnulty
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 27, 2007, 02:58:40 PM
The second quote you selected was directed at corn and co pints. You have outlined reasons like they bully the county board and sign other players from other counties but surely this ain't he fault of cross if The county board are weak and players from other teams want to sign for them. So i still can't work out a valid reason where the bias comes from ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 27, 2007, 03:07:21 PM
QuoteYou have outlined reasons like they bully the county board and sign other players from other counties but surely this ain't he fault of cross if The county board are weak and players from other teams want to sign for them. So i still can't work out a valid reason where the bias comes from
What?  Of course it's their fault that they bully the county board! Though the county board are knobs too. 
Cross also pursue other club's players. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 27, 2007, 03:19:39 PM
Sure so do clubs like mullaghbrack, harps and the ogs and i don't see any contempt for them. Our cross a special phenomenon. ??? surely all these clubs should come in for the same criticism. But i haven't seen any of it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 27, 2007, 03:22:49 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 27, 2007, 03:19:39 PM
Sure so do clubs like mullaghbrack, harps and the ogs and i don't see any contempt for them. Our cross a special phenomenon. ??? surely all these clubs should come in for the same criticism. But i haven't seen any of it.
Well clubs in south armagh aren't worried about those teams trying to steal their players.
And as you well know stealing players is not the only issue. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 27, 2007, 03:36:00 PM

Well clubs in south armagh aren't worried about those teams trying to steal their players.
And as you well know stealing players is not the only issue. 
[/quote]

Ok  :D just dismiss the issue. So are you only concerned with south Armagh then and forget about the rest of the county. It is ok for the rest of the teams to do it as long as it doesn't interfer with south Armagh. But the poor old cross are still the only team criticised for it ( once again my conclusion is because people are jealous of their success)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 27, 2007, 03:46:30 PM
QuoteOk just dismiss the issue. So are you only concerned with south Armagh then and forget about the rest of the county. It is ok for the rest of the teams to do it as long as it doesn't interfer with south Armagh. But the poor old cross are still the only team criticised for it ( once again my conclusion is because people are jealous of their success)

I'd criticise any club for stealing players but I thought we were talking about Cross?
You've asked me why they're not liked and I've told you. 
I'm concerned about the bridge and harps or ogs havent been using their big names to try and coax children away from my club. 
Harps or ogs supporters don't act like tramps or bully the county board. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 27, 2007, 03:47:30 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 27, 2007, 03:19:39 PM
Sure so do clubs like mullaghbrack, harps and the ogs and i don't see any contempt for them. Our cross a special phenomenon. ??? surely all these clubs should come in for the same criticism. But i haven't seen any of it.

winsamsoon what are you on? The players joining the Brack from either of the Harps or Ogs are boys that are not getting regular football, and or don't want to play B' Football. I hardly think its a case of any team stealing players in this case!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 27, 2007, 03:53:29 PM
Lads,

you's can talk around the issue all day, but Winsamsoon is right, jealously is the only issue here. He's also right about the clans, they are the next most successful club in Armagh history, thats fact.

So for talk sake pints the bridge starting winning everything before them and the had a structure were they had 4/5 players coming through every year from minor etc.  after 4/5 years everybody would start hacking the shite out of you's and i bet you would like it.

Success breads contempt from other clubs, but you can't faulty cross for that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on August 27, 2007, 04:00:27 PM
ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 11 10 0 1 20
Dromintee 13 8 1 4 17
Mullaghbawn 14 7 2 5 16
Pearse Og 12 7 1 4 15
Maghery 13 7 1 5 15
Clan na Gael 14 6 2 6 14
Harps 13 5 2 6 12
Whitecross 12 4 0 8 8
Culloville 13 3 2 8 8
Tir na nÓg 13 1 1 11 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
Killeavey 16 12 1 3 25
St Patrick's 13 12 0 1 24
Silverbridge 15 11 1 3 23
St Michael's 15 9 3 3 21
Carrickcruppen 10 7 0 3 14
Clann Eireann 13 7 0 6 14
Granemore 12 6 0 6 12
Ballymacnab 16 6 0 10 12
Keady 15 4 1 10 9
Wolfe Tones 16 3 2 11 8
St Peter's 16 3 0 13 6
Annaghmore 15 2 0 13 4

Division III
P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 15 13 0 2 26
An Port Mor 16 13 0 3 26
Madden 16 13 0 3 26
Collegeland 14 9 1 4 19
Lissummon 16 7 2 7 16
St Paul's 14 5 2 7 12
Tullysaran 15 5 2 8 12
Clonmore 17 6 0 11 12
Ballyhegan 14 5 0 9 10
Middletown 11 3 0 8 6
Clady 12 1 2 9 4
Crossmaglen II 14 2 1 11 5

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Belleek 14 12 0 2 24
Grange 15 10 1 3 23
Eire Og 14 9 0 5 18
Shane O'Neill's 11 7 2 2 16
Mullaghbrack 13 8 0 5 16
Dorsey Emmett's 15 7 2 6 16
Forkhill 15 7 1 7 15
Derrynoose 12 6 2 4 14
O'Hanlon's 15 4 2 9 10
Corrinshego 16 2 0 14 4
Phelim Brady's 16 0 0 16 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 27, 2007, 04:02:01 PM
Look lads, if it makes yous feel better to say that jealously is the reason cross aren't liked and ignore the real issues than go on ahead. 


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 27, 2007, 04:11:01 PM
QuoteIs this just hearsay or have you actually seen Ross at a Carrickcruppen game.
Although he is now playing for an Armagh team sure ly it is unlikely that he would opt to play for Armagh ?

I would have thought its very unlikely that Mark Rooney would declare for Down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 27, 2007, 04:13:55 PM
ok then,  were do they steal players from???  and why would they have to do this whenever they have possibly the best structure of any club in armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 27, 2007, 04:23:35 PM
Quoteok then,  were do they steal players from???  and why would they have to do this whenever they have possibly the best structure of any club in armagh
They steal players from their neighbouring clubs, john donaldson, john murtagh are not from Cross and have recently started targeting children in silverbridge.  Why do they do it, I've no idea.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 27, 2007, 04:29:43 PM
a representative from the management committee of the armagh county board was in contact with mark rooney when he got clearance from the ulster council for his inter-county transfer to carrickcruppen as regards to what his preference was should he be asked onto the county panel and he choose to remain with down.

ross carr wasn't at the cruppen games himself but he had mark rooney watched on 3 different occasions since he joined carrickcruppen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 27, 2007, 04:36:45 PM
it was 2 different occasions a hour ago  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 27, 2007, 04:43:54 PM
it was  both tir na nog games in the championship and the league match against ballymacnab
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 27, 2007, 05:38:18 PM
GOH and Winsamsoon the same person perhaps?

Indeed you are right Winsamsoon, you have shown me the light, your intelligence levels knows no end. We may have not won the senior championship. (and on that point a club is just not about senior championships, it is about all levels and we have won plenty in other lelves) but I would rather be in a dedicated club like Dromintee than a club in decline like the Clans.

Take a lead from Illdecide and talk some sense man.

GOH if you think that Cross team is not admired you are extremely wrong, they have to be applauded. There are aspects wqithin the club I do not like.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 27, 2007, 08:53:16 PM

I have it on good authority that marty o'rourke broke both of his hands in the drawn game and couldn't play anywhere other than full forward as he could neither tackle nor fist pass the ball.

Dromintee had their chance to put cross away in the drawn game but missed it. A lot of other teams in ireland never put themselves in that position.




mark rooney is a good footballer but he'll never play county football. a long way short of that level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on August 27, 2007, 10:00:37 PM
The Ogs had cross bate in the championship a couple of years ago only they imploded and Dromintee have had them on the rack only to lack the self belief to finish the job. Cross have been beatable and indeed should have been beaten on occasion but they refuse to lose and sometimes that is enough to get them over the finish line.

Dromintee are a great league side, a poor championship side.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armamike on August 27, 2007, 10:36:22 PM
A lack of forwards who could win and put the ball over the bar was Dromintee's downfall. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 28, 2007, 08:08:53 AM
Is there many Cross men defecting to other neighbouring clubs to search for regular football?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on August 28, 2007, 08:51:56 AM
On the news this morning, Dyas on his way to Oz?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 28, 2007, 09:14:18 AM
Quote from: stew on August 27, 2007, 10:00:37 PM
Dromintee are a great league side, a poor championship side.

Not true at all stew. they aren't a great league side. they are a good team but simply cross are better. noone else has beaten them in championship football for 7 or 8 years.

Dyas is already gone to oz.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 28, 2007, 09:28:41 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on August 28, 2007, 08:08:53 AM
Is there many Cross men defecting to other neighbouring clubs to search for regular football?

Did ballyhegan not poach a few players from the same family a while back?  ;)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 28, 2007, 09:38:37 AM
Further signs of imcompetence from the County Board Or is it a conspiracy theory against the city teams: both the Ogs vs Maghery and the Cuchulainns vs Middletown fixed for the same evening.

Who is in charge of orgainising these fixtures
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on August 28, 2007, 09:51:35 AM
even worse is the failure to allocate any games to cruppen this weekend whnever they are six games behind, maybe they are allowing them to rest before they take cross`s titles
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 28, 2007, 09:51:58 AM
ARMAGH'S rising star Kevin Dyas boarded a plane to Australia last night to begin a month-long trial with AFL club, Collingwood.

A representative from the Melbourne club flew to Ireland last weekend to watch Dyas play for his club Dromintee against Crossmaglen Rangers in the Armagh senior championship. Dyas was superb and the game ended in a draw.

Dyas will be met in Melbourne by Down's Martin Clarke who has proved to be a sensation since joining 'the Magpies'. Dyas and Clarke were opponents in last year's MacRory Cup final. Clarke

represented St Louis', Kilkeel while Dyas played for Abbey CBS.

The Dromintee lad spearheaded the Newry school to Hogan Cup glory when he scored 2-1 in the
   
All-Ireland Colleges' final against St Pat's, Navan. Since leaving the Abbey, Dyas began a course at the University of Ulster.

This year, he was on Jordanstown's Sigerson Cup panel, the Armagh U21 squad which won the Ulster title, and Joe Kernan's senior squad.

Dyas also received an offer from the Brisbane Lions, but Collingwood proved to be his first choice
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 28, 2007, 10:24:12 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 28, 2007, 09:51:58 AM
A representative from the Melbourne club flew to Ireland last weekend to watch Dyas play for his club Dromintee against Crossmaglen Rangers in the Armagh senior championship. Dyas was superb and the game ended in a draw.


The scout sure picked a good game to watch the lad in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on August 28, 2007, 11:17:10 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 27, 2007, 04:23:35 PM
Quoteok then,  were do they steal players from???  and why would they have to do this whenever they have possibly the best structure of any club in armagh
They steal players from their neighbouring clubs, john donaldson, john murtagh are not from Cross and have recently started targeting children in silverbridge.  Why do they do it, I've no idea.

Where is John Murtagh from then? Toome?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 28, 2007, 11:23:21 AM
Cullyhanna
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on August 28, 2007, 11:25:54 AM
John Murtagh lives on the Blayney road out of Cross, right beside the border. He lives in Tullyard, which traditionally was considered part of Toome (I think it was in Monaghan before the border was redrawn) but I dont think too many will argue that he is not correct and right to play for Cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 28, 2007, 11:28:12 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 28, 2007, 09:28:41 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on August 28, 2007, 08:08:53 AM
Is there many Cross men defecting to other neighbouring clubs to search for regular football?
Did ballyhegan not poach a few players from the same family a while back?  ;)

If a player/family falls out with a club, sure it's up to them if they want to continue playing football elsewhere!

We've taken in Tiffney's & McCormacks in the past & why not? (We'd only 15 players lined out at the weekend!!!!!!)

Ogs not looking JP anymore?  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 28, 2007, 11:30:57 AM
Quote from: thebandit on August 28, 2007, 11:25:54 AM
John Murtagh lives on the Blayney road out of Cross, right beside the border. He lives in Tullyard, which traditionally was considered part of Toome (I think it was in Monaghan before the border was redrawn) but I dont think too many will argue that he is not correct and right to play for Cross

He's a born and bred cullyhanna man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on August 28, 2007, 11:34:57 AM
Are you maybe thinking of John Donaldson?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 28, 2007, 11:39:24 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on August 28, 2007, 11:28:12 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 28, 2007, 09:28:41 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on August 28, 2007, 08:08:53 AM
Is there many Cross men defecting to other neighbouring clubs to search for regular football?
Did ballyhegan not poach a few players from the same family a while back?  ;)

If a player/family falls out with a club, sure it's up to them if they want to continue playing football elsewhere!

We've taken in Tiffney's & McCormacks in the past & why not? (We'd only 15 players lined out at the weekend!!!!!!)

Ogs not looking JP anymore?  :P

that was my point exactly, that players fall out with teams all the time.  I couldn't help getting a wee dig at you though.  It happens all around.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on August 28, 2007, 11:40:41 AM
Quote from: BenDover on August 28, 2007, 09:38:37 AM
Further signs of imcompetence from the County Board Or is it a conspiracy theory against the city teams: both the Ogs vs Maghery and the Cuchulainns vs Middletown fixed for the same evening.

Who is in charge of orgainising these fixtures

Have the fixtures been offically released, if so it is an absolute disgrace and a kick in the teeth for any aspiring dual players.

Any times or venues
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 28, 2007, 11:57:32 AM
Quote from: thebandit on August 28, 2007, 11:34:57 AM
Are you maybe thinking of John Donaldson?

No, though Donaldson is also a cullyhanna man obviously.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 28, 2007, 12:22:55 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on August 28, 2007, 11:40:41 AM
Quote from: BenDover on August 28, 2007, 09:38:37 AM
Further signs of imcompetence from the County Board Or is it a conspiracy theory against the city teams: both the Ogs vs Maghery and the Cuchulainns vs Middletown fixed for the same evening.

Who is in charge of orgainising these fixtures

Have the fixtures been offically released, if so it is an absolute disgrace and a kick in the teeth for any aspiring dual players.

Any times or venues

Well the Ogs boys are fairly certain that their match is down for Sat 8th 5.30 in Davitt Park, and I'm just goin with what we've been told all along with regards the hurling
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 28, 2007, 12:30:34 PM
Quote from: BenDover on August 28, 2007, 12:22:55 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on August 28, 2007, 11:40:41 AM
Quote from: BenDover on August 28, 2007, 09:38:37 AM
Further signs of imcompetence from the County Board Or is it a conspiracy theory against the city teams: both the Ogs vs Maghery and the Cuchulainns vs Middletown fixed for the same evening.

Who is in charge of orgainising these fixtures

Have the fixtures been offically released, if so it is an absolute disgrace and a kick in the teeth for any aspiring dual players.

Any times or venues

Well the Ogs boys are fairly certain that their match is down for Sat 8th 5.30 in Davitt Park, and I'm just goin with what we've been told all along with regards the hurling

That's the Details I've been given anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 28, 2007, 06:41:30 PM
naka at the minute we are at home to granemore on sunday and our secretary is in the phone sounding out other clubs that we are behind in fixtures with about a game on friday night too!
oh and its actually 7 games we are behind now! haha
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on August 28, 2007, 07:25:52 PM
Quote from: Uladh on August 28, 2007, 11:57:32 AM
Quote from: thebandit on August 28, 2007, 11:34:57 AM
Are you maybe thinking of John Donaldson?

No, though Donaldson is also a cullyhanna man obviously.

How is Murtagh a Cullyhanna man?

No dispute about JD!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on August 29, 2007, 09:25:25 AM
Bandit, John Murtagh actually played underage football with Cullyhanna until u-14 I think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 29, 2007, 09:48:05 AM
How many have there been?
Hearty - Silverbridge?
G O'Neill - Killeavey
Donaldson - Cullyhanna
Murtagh - Cullyhanna
Colm O'Neill- Cullaville
Joey Cunningham - Forkhill :)

others??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on August 29, 2007, 09:57:19 AM
Gary McShane - Culloville
Micheal Traynor - Culloville
Rico Kelly - Toome (Monaghan)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on August 29, 2007, 10:34:00 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 27, 2007, 04:23:35 PM
Quoteok then,  were do they steal players from???  and why would they have to do this whenever they have possibly the best structure of any club in armagh
They steal players from their neighbouring clubs, john donaldson, john murtagh are not from Cross and have recently started targeting children in silverbridge.  Why do they do it, I've no idea.

POG, I know this topic is probably over now, but i have just logged on today as i was away and you are so out of order in what you are saying, John D and John M both came to cross after having a blow up with their own club ST Pats , cross did not STEAL THEM, it was their choice, and look at what they have now, as for children in silverbridge, i think your wrong, cross have enough of a panel at underage and so do the bridge, you just have to look at both clubs on a sunday morning from under 6 up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on August 29, 2007, 10:43:08 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 29, 2007, 09:48:05 AM
How many have there been?
Hearty - Silverbridge?
G O'Neill - Killeavey
Donaldson - Cullyhanna
Murtagh - Cullyhanna
Colm O'Neill- Cullaville
Joey Cunningham - Forkhill :)

others??

Its time all this stopped, hearty was brought up in lismore park in crossmaglen, Donaldson's actually lives on Donaldson's road beside creggan (who says creggan has to be the bridge, its choice), John M is cullyhanna, colm o neill also lived between cullaville and cross, again choice, Gary MC Shane lived in cross at the top of carron rd, Most player's who moved to cross was due to choice, just cus they live somewhere else now doesn't mean they should play for them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 29, 2007, 11:00:15 AM
Quote from: dontcare on August 29, 2007, 10:43:08 AM
just cus they live somewhere else now doesn't mean they should play for them

That's pretty much the basis for the structure of the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on August 29, 2007, 11:45:30 AM
If John Murtagh did play underage for Cullyhanna then that was out of order - he lives in Cross!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 29, 2007, 11:47:01 AM

I've been waiting for a while now and not wanting to give him the clue to its obviousness, but there's still no sign of this goh4205 charachter on the louth football thread...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 29, 2007, 11:47:34 AM
If he lives in cross now its only happened very recently...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on August 29, 2007, 12:22:05 PM
QuoteThat's pretty much the basis for the structure of the game.

What are we saying here, that a player should always play for the place he was born in even if he moves, or that if he moves that he should play with his new place.

For example Gareth O'Neill clearly lives in Cross' and not Killeavey, and he moved to Cross after a while outside the county. If it is OK for Mark Standfield to marry in Killeavey and play there then O'Neill could play for Cross, this is very much a normal part of the GAA, and not worthy of comment.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 29, 2007, 12:43:14 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 29, 2007, 12:22:05 PM
QuoteThat's pretty much the basis for the structure of the game.

What are we saying here, that a player should always play for the place he was born in even if he moves, or that if he moves that he should play with his new place.

For example Gareth O'Neill clearly lives in Cross' and not Killeavey, and he moved to Cross after a while outside the county. If it is OK for Mark Standfield to marry in Killeavey and play there then O'Neill could play for Cross, this is very much a normal part of the GAA, and not worthy of comment.

Certainly not, I've no problem with genuine transfers~(and the only official reason for one is moving parish AFAIK), it's the spurious,dubious, manufactured transfers that tend to irk people.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on August 29, 2007, 12:45:25 PM
Good God - the threads just keep getting more and more boring...this guy lives on Crossmaglen row so he should be playing for Cross, John McEntee lives at McEntee's bridge so he should be playing for Cross blah blah blah - does anyone give a f**k!!! I thought women were bad until i read some of the crap on this board - bitching and bitching all day long and it is always the same people!!! Get a life - Cross are not this unbeatable lot that they are made out to be, it is just that every other club in Armagh seem to be feeling sorry for themselves or in the doldrums. Cross get beat often enough when they step outside the county. Great team but to win all those titles in a row is a pure embarrassment for the rest of Armagh - it hardly matters where there players come from - some of the other teams should have taken their crown by now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 29, 2007, 04:58:27 PM
Corn you just get better by the day, maybe you are causing the crashes. A dedicated club you say? Well fair play till you and Dromintee But i can assure you that my club are every bit as dedicated as yours. Maybe i am speaking out of turn here but i would say Silverbridge, Harps, Ogs and Cross are every bit as dedicated to. Where you got this dedicated issue i do not know. But whatever floats your boat. Anther thing just because two people have conflicting views to you doesn't mean they are the same person, loose the conspiracy theories.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 29, 2007, 05:51:28 PM
Quote from: dontcare on August 29, 2007, 10:34:00 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 27, 2007, 04:23:35 PM
Quoteok then,  were do they steal players from???  and why would they have to do this whenever they have possibly the best structure of any club in armagh
They steal players from their neighbouring clubs, john donaldson, john murtagh are not from Cross and have recently started targeting children in silverbridge.  Why do they do it, I've no idea.

POG, I know this topic is probably over now, but i have just logged on today as i was away and you are so out of order in what you are saying, John D and John M both came to cross after having a blow up with their own club ST Pats , cross did not STEAL THEM, it was their choice, and look at what they have now, as for children in silverbridge, i think your wrong, cross have enough of a panel at underage and so do the bridge, you just have to look at both clubs on a sunday morning from under 6 up.

As Benny has pointed no one minds the odd transfer but when a club has had dozens of players over the years that aren't from the area and ends up with every player that has had a falling out with their club questions have to be asked. What happened Donaldson and Murtagh in Cullyhanna?

And no, I'm not wrong about children in silverbridge. 

As far as I'm concerned the only reason anyone should be moving clubs is if they move to an area where travelling home to their own club for training etc would be to much to ask.  I'd say Gareth O'neill could make it from Cross to Killeavy.  Where is Mark Stanfield from in Louth?  The same could be said about him.  Of course it's the players own choice but it's funny how they all end up in cross.  Maybe it's all glory hunting?

Benny
QuoteHearty - Silverbridge?
Hearty's family home is in creggan.  You would think that the 'bridge would the local club for creggan but  no, it's probably about 90% Cross.  (if not more). 


A lot of people outside the area don't realise the size of the Cross pick, its stretches far beyond the town. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 29, 2007, 07:28:20 PM
Apart from stealing players, intimidating referees/linesmen/umpires/officials/county board members, favourtism from the county board and playing finals at their own pitch can anyone offer any other reason why Cross are so far in front of everyone else in Armagh?  the reasons i have listed mostly have some truth as their basis but they do tend to sound alot like whinging!!! also they dont include the main and real reason Cross are going for 12 in a row---------------- the rest of the county are just woeful watch any senior div1 game not involving cross and it could easily be mistaken for a reserve game so low is the quality and dont even get me started on that rubbish that goes on in div 2, 3, 4.  No wonder we have problems coming thru at county level now half the club players cant kick pass the ball more than 20 yds.  Clubs need to look at themselves for answers not pass the buck.  efforts and resources have to be put into players at an early age and backed up throughout underage to bring young talent through to senior!!!

Any predictions for semis.

Cross to beat the Cruppen by 3 points

Maghery to beat Ogs by 2 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 29, 2007, 07:45:07 PM
No body is saying that things like stealing players are the reason Cross is out in front of everyone else.

Cross is out in front because
1.  They, like other clubs in south armagh, have no problems keeping players playing football because there is nothing else to do. 
2.  They have a massive pick, twice and three times the size of other south armagh clubs and while clubs like harps, ogs, clanns etc would have a similar pick they have problems with drink and other sports and keeping players playing.  So cross have the best of both worlds.
3.  Success will lead to more success.

As for clubs needing to put their efforts into the youth, do you not think that's already being done?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 29, 2007, 07:56:41 PM
results dear pints where are the results?  12 years is a long time!!!

Any thoughts on the semis??

Can any of the other three beat cross?

surely they are bound to have one big game in there somewhere between the 3 of them.

Its just so bad a team dominating to such an extent for such a period of time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 29, 2007, 08:03:30 PM
I can guarantee you that other clubs in armagh are putting in as much effort to the underage set up as cross are.
Where are the results?  Ive told you the problems.

It is a very bad thing to have a club dominate but what do you suggest?

I can't see cross being beat. 


what club are you from yourself?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 29, 2007, 08:11:34 PM
cross have some great players + some good managers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 29, 2007, 08:16:23 PM
One possible solution and i admit its a little left field  ;) is to plant a load of drugs :o :o in their changing room and report it to the police getting them all lifted thus being unable to field therefore out of the championship!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D



i know theres a few smaller issues to iron out but i think you will agree if this were the movies or even a cartoon it would be a cerified brainstormer. 8) 8) 8)


what do you think? :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 29, 2007, 08:19:16 PM
Aye might be worth a try.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 29, 2007, 09:44:38 PM
Quote from: Uladh on August 29, 2007, 11:47:01 AM

I've been waiting for a while now and not wanting to give him the clue to its obviousness, but there's still no sign of this goh4205 charachter on the louth football thread...

Uladh,  i suppose you want me to put my name & address up here so you can call round, get over yourself man.  On another note this is a free board and i can post on whatever thread i like, just because you went searching the louth thread and found nothing, there's places for nobs like you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 29, 2007, 10:14:06 PM
cruppen 'c' team beat madden tonight in the all-county b league and have qualified for the all-county b league final against silverbridge!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 29, 2007, 10:28:24 PM
Go on the bridge!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 29, 2007, 10:29:20 PM
great team performance from cruppen tonight, squeaky smith ran his socks off, even with that extra baggage he carrys. mark patton and john magill were brilliant at midfield and the forwards rattled up some great scores. great effort from all the lads. lets hope its not the only team in the club making a final in the next few weeks!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on August 29, 2007, 11:15:01 PM
Quote from: thebandit on August 29, 2007, 09:57:19 AM
Rico Kelly - Toome (Monaghan)

did rico not play for the ogs at one stage??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 29, 2007, 11:18:52 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 29, 2007, 09:48:05 AM
How many have there been?
Hearty - Silverbridge?
G O'Neill - Killeavey
Donaldson - Cullyhanna
Murtagh - Cullyhanna
Colm O'Neill- Cullaville
Joey Cunningham - Forkhill :)

others??
Clarke is from Mullaghbawn.

I know his Da would be a cross man but did he ever play for Mullaghbawn, I only remember him playing for cross in the last few years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 30, 2007, 08:56:04 AM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on August 29, 2007, 11:15:01 PM
Quote from: thebandit on August 29, 2007, 09:57:19 AM
Rico Kelly - Toome (Monaghan)

did rico not play for the ogs at one stage??

Your are correct he played under age for the Ogs for a couple of years but then his family moved to Cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 30, 2007, 09:57:17 AM
Quote from: BenDover on August 30, 2007, 08:56:04 AM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on August 29, 2007, 11:15:01 PM
Quote from: thebandit on August 29, 2007, 09:57:19 AM
Rico Kelly - Toome (Monaghan)

did rico not play for the ogs at one stage??

Your are correct he played under age for the Ogs for a couple of years but then his family moved to Cross

The conspiracy theorists on here are bound to come up with a good reason for that ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on August 30, 2007, 12:50:03 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 29, 2007, 11:18:52 PM

Clarke is from Mullaghbawn.

I know his Da would be a cross man but did he ever play for Mullaghbawn, I only remember him playing for cross in the last few years.

pints,

Stephen clarke originally played for mullaghbawn a few years ago when he first moved to the area, but obviuosly has moved back to cross since i moved away from home. played with him for mullaghbawn at both u-16 and minor, although that is about 10-11 years ago now!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on August 30, 2007, 08:49:53 PM
Are the Whitecross lads still on the drink? Duno if it is worth heading to Abbey Park tomorrow night for a one-sided game. Though not that much else to look at tomorrow night - dont even suggest Clady v Cross seconds.
See Whitecross have a wee singalong on youtube now ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 30, 2007, 08:57:31 PM
Quote from: stpauls on August 30, 2007, 12:50:03 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 29, 2007, 11:18:52 PM

Clarke is from Mullaghbawn.

I know his Da would be a cross man but did he ever play for Mullaghbawn, I only remember him playing for cross in the last few years.

pints,

Stephen clarke originally played for mullaghbawn a few years ago when he first moved to the area, but obviuosly has moved back to cross since i moved away from home. played with him for mullaghbawn at both u-16 and minor, although that is about 10-11 years ago now!!

I was thinking that...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on August 30, 2007, 10:05:43 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on August 29, 2007, 10:29:20 PM
great team performance from cruppen tonight, squeaky smith ran his socks off, even with that extra baggage he carrys. mark patton and john magill were brilliant at midfield and the forwards rattled up some great scores. great effort from all the lads. lets hope its not the only team in the club making a final in the next few weeks!!
a soperb second half display good solid defensive especially the corner back young flynn lets just hope we play like that in the final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 30, 2007, 10:44:42 PM
This is my first post
I decided to register on this site to counteract the anti Rangers sentiments being expressed by a couple of posters.
On the issue of "outside players", John Murtagh's dad is from Cross and played with Rangers until he got married to a Cullyhanna girl. He then went to live in Cullyhanna and transferred to them which seems reasonable enough to me.
He eventually built a bungalow on his parents land in Cross and moved back to Cross when John was about 14. John then transferred to the Rangers. If it was reasonable for his father to transfer to Cullyhanna when he went to live there surely it was reasonable for his son John to transfer to the Rangers when he came to live in Cross.!!

John Donaldson  was born and reared in Cross Parish ( Upper Creggan ) and still lives there. He went to Cross primary school. He never ever lived in Cullyhanna parish ( Lower Creggan ), so arguably he should have been a Cross player all along. However on his fathers wishes he played for Cullyhanna at all levels which I have no problem with.. He eventually fell out with the Cullyhanna club and went to play for Stabannon in Louth for 3 years. He signed for the Rangers in 1999 as it was more convenient for him. Again it seems a reasonable enough decision.

You would think to read the post from Pints of Guinness that Cross were the only team to include players in their team that started their careers elsewhere.

Mind you the Bridge have had their fair share of "outsiders" in their ranks down the years, including James Traynor ( Forkhill ), Jimmy Phillips Drumintee ), Martin Smyth ( Belleek ), Joe Crawley ( Mullabawn ), Gary Boyle ( Carrickcruppen ), Colm Murphy ( Crossmaglen ), Kieran Mallie ( Drumintee ), ( Brendan Mallie ( Drumintee ), Mickey Martin ( Drumintee ), Vincent Martin ( Drumintee ) and Shane Lyons ( Forkhill ), I'm sure other posters could add to this list.

I am not criticising the Bridge for playing the aforementioned, they would be very silly not to as they would probably have ended up playing against them, but pints ever heard of "people in glass houses" ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 30, 2007, 11:02:21 PM
QuoteMind you the Bridge have had their fair share of "outsiders" in their ranks down the years, including James Traynor ( Forkhill ), Jimmy Phillips Drumintee ), Martin Smyth ( Belleek ), Joe Crawley ( Mullabawn ), Gary Boyle ( Carrickcruppen ), Colm Murphy ( Crossmaglen ), Kieran Mallie ( Drumintee ), ( Brendan Mallie ( Drumintee ), Mickey Martin ( Drumintee ), Vincent Martin ( Drumintee ) and Shane Lyons ( Forkhill ), I'm sure other posters could add to this list.

:D  You went back to the history books for that one.

The Mallies is a good one. 

Nice try.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 31, 2007, 10:41:05 AM
Quote from: crossfire on August 30, 2007, 10:44:42 PM
John Donaldson  was born and reared in Cross Parish ( Upper Creggan ) and still lives there. He went to Cross primary school. He never ever lived in Cullyhanna parish ( Lower Creggan ), so arguably he should have been a Cross player all along. However on his fathers wishes he played for Cullyhanna at all levels which I have no problem with.. He eventually fell out with the Cullyhanna club and went to play for Stabannon in Louth for 3 years. He signed for the Rangers in 1999 as it was more convenient for him. Again it seems a reasonable enough decision.

So upper cregan parish is now "crossmaglen parish". As if cross haven't big enough pick without claiming the rest of the bridge and culloville's players.

Donaldson tried his best to get to cross when he fell out with cullyhanna but for once the county board saw sense and refused him. he went to stabannon, where he was marrying to, with the intention of staying a year and coming back to cross through an interpro transfer. then, when stabannon won the championship and he ended up paying with louth he was persuaded to stay on another couple of years.

i wonder why it was convenient for him to join cross in 99 when he was living and working in louth?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on August 31, 2007, 11:13:35 AM
That's one of the great things about the GAA - they hate outsiders ( except when they're useful ones !! ).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on August 31, 2007, 11:20:02 AM
Does the county board have a map that shows club catchment areas? There's a lot of grey areas IMO.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 31, 2007, 12:33:00 PM
There will always be grey areas. A lot of it has also to do with family history & loyalty.
Fcuk there is some amount of posters here who dont like Cross.
I wonder are any of these same posters cheering for them come Paddy's Day?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 31, 2007, 12:51:25 PM
Full back the point i was stating was exactly what you said. That there are a whole lot of posters who hate the Cross. I was asking the reasons for this and i got issues like bullying co boards stealing players and a few other petty issues. However i thought that it boiled down to jealousy. As we have discovered over the past few pages of posts other clubs have also borrowed  ;) players from other clubs so this would rule out the valididy of the stealing players point. Which again brings me to the conclusion that they are all jealous of the success cross has had and rather than accept the fact that Cross are the best team becasue they have the best footballers. They are looking for other petty reasons for the Cross success. I am a clans man and i will always congratulate them and i will cheer them on St patricks day no matter or when they play. I also recognise they have taken players from other places but as we have seen who hasn't, to attribute their success to this would be misleading the facts. I think the green eyed monster rises again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 31, 2007, 01:14:57 PM

i also dislike the blaming of poaching players as the reason of cross's success. it's patently not. however, if people post inaccurate information as facts i have no problem correcting them on a point of order.

personally i support cross every time they set foot outside our county representing armagh. i even got in the only fight i was ever in at a match defending their players at an ulster club match!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on August 31, 2007, 01:26:31 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 30, 2007, 10:44:42 PM
This is my first post
I decided to register on this site to counteract the anti Rangers sentiments being expressed by a couple of posters.
On the issue of "outside players", John Murtagh's dad is from Cross and played with Rangers until he got married to a Cullyhanna girl. He then went to live in Cullyhanna and transferred to them which seems reasonable enough to me.
He eventually built a bungalow on his parents land in Cross and moved back to Cross when John was about 14. John then transferred to the Rangers. If it was reasonable for his father to transfer to Cullyhanna when he went to live there surely it was reasonable for his son John to transfer to the Rangers when he came to live in Cross.!!

John Donaldson  was born and reared in Cross Parish ( Upper Creggan ) and still lives there. He went to Cross primary school. He never ever lived in Cullyhanna parish ( Lower Creggan ), so arguably he should have been a Cross player all along. However on his fathers wishes he played for Cullyhanna at all levels which I have no problem with.. He eventually fell out with the Cullyhanna club and went to play for Stabannon in Louth for 3 years. He signed for the Rangers in 1999 as it was more convenient for him. Again it seems a reasonable enough decision.
You would think to read the post from Pints of Guinness that Cross were the only team to include players in their team that started their careers elsewhere.

Mind you the Bridge have had their fair share of "outsiders" in their ranks down the years, including James Traynor ( Forkhill ), Jimmy Phillips Drumintee ), Martin Smyth ( Belleek ), Joe Crawley ( Mullabawn ), Gary Boyle ( Carrickcruppen ), Colm Murphy ( Crossmaglen ), Kieran Mallie ( Drumintee ), ( Brendan Mallie ( Drumintee ), Mickey Martin ( Drumintee ), Vincent Martin ( Drumintee ) and Shane Lyons ( Forkhill ), I'm sure other posters could add to this list.

I am not criticising the Bridge for playing the aforementioned, they would be very silly not to as they would probably have ended up playing against them, but pints ever heard of "people in glass houses" ??


Well said cross fire, actually John M mother is from blaney but the family moved to cullyhanna as Johns Dads grandmother lived there and a house came up for sale from family next door.
You are correct about John Donaldson,
Stephen Clarke was originally from cross,
Glen Hanratty transfered from Cross to Silverbridge (in time for a minor championship with the bridge, ) and he lives in creggan, WHO OWNS CREGGAN WE WILL NEVER KNOW. LOL LOL
Not sure how true it is but heard C Conlon requested a transfer to cross but county board refused.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2007, 01:35:14 PM
QuoteHowever i thought that it boiled down to jealousy. As we have discovered over the past few pages of posts other clubs have also borrowed

No one is saying other clubs haven't taken players not from the area we're talking about the amount.
Crossfire went back about 15 years there and came up with a hilarious list of 11 players who he called "outsiders".
You can take the two mallies out of it as I'd far as I'm concerned they would never be outsiders in the bridge because if it wasn't for their Da and uncles (and people like them) we wouldn't have the facilites and club we have today. 

The 9 left includes players who've only played underage for us and players who went back to their own clubs when rows were sorted out.


Who wants to go back into cross history and go down all their underage teams and see how many outsiders they get in last 15 years?


QuoteNot sure how true it is but heard C Conlon requested a transfer to cross but county board refused.
Really?  Can the county board refuse a transfer if both clubs agree?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 31, 2007, 01:41:03 PM

Where is Conlon looking to go?

Quote from: dontcare on August 31, 2007, 01:26:31 PM
You are correct about John Donaldson,

as already stated, he facts re donaldson are

QuoteDonaldson tried his best to get to cross when he fell out with cullyhanna but for once the county board saw sense and refused him. he went to stabannon, where he was marrying to, with the intention of staying a year and coming back to cross through an interpro transfer. then, when stabannon won the championship and he ended up paying with louth he was persuaded to stay on another couple of years.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2007, 01:49:25 PM
two two charle will be fit to tell you uladh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 31, 2007, 02:02:53 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2007, 01:35:14 PM

QuoteNot sure how true it is but heard C Conlon requested a transfer to cross but county board refused.
Really?  Can the county board refuse a transfer if both clubs agree?

They wont sanction any after the cut off point, end of March or end of April.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 31, 2007, 02:35:15 PM
Winsamsoon where were you on 9/11?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 31, 2007, 07:33:47 PM
tell everyone pints what facilites the mallies da and uncles provided at the bridge club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2007, 07:50:48 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on August 31, 2007, 07:33:47 PM
tell everyone pints what facilites the mallies da and uncles provided at the bridge club.
::)

Didn't they help build what's there?  They weren't on their own of course.


Are you not answering uladh's question?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 31, 2007, 11:19:39 PM
i dont know where c.conlon is going . some club will benefit from it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2007, 11:21:34 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on August 31, 2007, 11:19:39 PM
i dont know where c.conlon is going . some club will benefit from it.

and I thought the head of his fan club would know.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 31, 2007, 11:46:22 PM
pints i dont go in for fan clubs . conlon is a very good player and should be playing for his own club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2007, 11:54:28 PM
Quoteconlon is a very good player and should be playing for his own club.
Yes he should.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 01, 2007, 09:29:59 AM
Hes supposedly going to the Pearse ogs, apparently hes marrying a girl from the town :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 01, 2007, 01:55:39 PM
Pearse Ogs beat Tir na Nog last night 4-14 to 4 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: say nothin on September 01, 2007, 03:59:08 PM
Harps beat Whitecross by 4 points

1-09 to 0-08

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 01, 2007, 08:43:50 PM
Cullyhanna beat Cruppen by a few points this evening in the Minor Championship. Not a great game, Cruppen led early on but Cullyhanna were a lot stronger in the last 15 minutes and pulled away towards the end.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 02, 2007, 06:02:54 PM
Pints.
You infer that Kieran and Brendan Mallie are bona fide Bridge people, even though they were raised in Drumintee, because their father and two uncles did a lot of work for the Bridge club.
John Murtaghs father and 4 uncles all played football for Cross.
They all did massive work for the club off the field.
His uncle Donal is the current senior team manager and another uncle Kevin is the club referee.

Given the criteria you use for the young Mallies would you now agree that John Murtagh is a bona fide Cross player and not "Stolen" as you earlier alleged. ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 02, 2007, 06:10:43 PM
cruppen beat granemore today by four points played absolute shite but a win is a win!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 02, 2007, 06:12:27 PM
crossfire, John Murtagh's father played for cullyhanna, he was so loyal to cross that he jumped clubs when he went to live in cullyhanna, he couldn't make the journey back to cross?


So I don't think it's the same thing.



Cullyhanna beat clanns.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 02, 2007, 08:27:32 PM
Maghery beat St Patrick's in the 'B' Final tonight at Abbey Park by a point.  Don't know the final score.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 02, 2007, 09:05:26 PM
Carrickcruppen beat Ballymacnab.  Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 02, 2007, 09:41:59 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on September 02, 2007, 09:05:26 PM
Carrickcruppen beat Ballymacnab.  Any other results?

Cruppen def didnt beat ballymacnab 2day, cuz the nab had no game!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 02, 2007, 09:47:49 PM
Heard the B final cut up rough between cullyhana & Maghery

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 02, 2007, 09:59:09 PM
QuoteCarrickcruppen beat Ballymacnab

My mistake.  Should have read:-
Carrickcruppen beat Granemore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pedro on September 02, 2007, 11:04:06 PM
I hear there's a young lad playing with Dromintee (corner back I think) who's originally from Louth (Kilkerley or somethinng?), good footballer by all reports. Anyone able to shed any light on this chap??
Title: results and tables
Post by: fcuksake on September 02, 2007, 11:21:32 PM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS & TABLES FOR W/E SUNDAY 2 SEPTEMBER 2007


Thursday 30 August

ACL – Div. II
Granemore 0-8; St Patrick's 3-10


Friday 31 August

ACL – Div. I
Harps 1-9; Whitecross 1-5
Tir na nÓg 0-4; Pearse Og 4-14

ACL – Div. III
Crossmaglen II 1-8; Clady 1-6

ACL – Div. IV
Dorsey Emmett's 0-4; Derrynoose 3-10


Saturday 1 September

Minor Football Championship Quarter-Final
Carrickcruppen 1-7; St Patrick's 1-12

Minor Football Championship Semi-Final Replay
Granemore v Tullysaran (Off)



Sunday 2 September

Armagh 'B' Football Championship Final
Maghery 1-9; St Patrick's 1-8

ACL – Div. I
Mullaghbawn v Whitecross (Off)

ACL – Div. II
Clann Eireann 1-7; St Patrick's 1-11
Carrickcruppen 1-10; Granemore 0-9

ACL – Div. III
Clady 0-9; Collegeland 2-8
Middletown v Lissummon (Off)

ACL – Div. IV
Mullaghbrack 0-5; Shane O'Neill's 1-9
O'Hanlon's v Derrynoose (Off)


ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 11 10 0 1 20
Dromintee 13 8 1 4 17
Pearse Og 13 8 1 4 17
Mullaghbawn 14 7 2 5 16
Maghery 13 7 1 5 15
Harps 14 6 2 6 14
Clan na Gael 14 6 2 6 14
Culloville 13 3 2 8 8
Whitecross 13 4 0 9 8
Tir na nÓg 14 1 1 12 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
St Patrick's 15 14 0 1 28
Killeavey 16 12 1 3 25
Silverbridge 15 11 1 3 23
St Michael's 15 9 3 3 21
Carrickcruppen 11 8 0 3 16
Clann Eireann 14 7 0 7 14
Granemore 14 6 0 8 12
Ballymacnab 16 6 0 10 12
Keady 15 4 1 10 9
Wolfe Tones 16 3 2 11 8
St Peter's 16 3 0 13 6
Annaghmore 15 2 0 13 4

Division III
P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 15 13 0 2 26
An Port Mor 16 13 0 3 26
Madden 16 13 0 3 26
Collegeland 15 10 1 4 21
Lissummon 16 7 2 7 16
St Paul's 14 5 2 7 12
Tullysaran 15 5 2 8 12
Clonmore 17 6 0 11 12
Ballyhegan 14 5 0 9 10
Crossmaglen II 15 3 1 11 7
Middletown 11 3 0 8 6
Clady 14 1 2 11 4

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Belleek 14 12 0 2 24
Grange 15 10 1 3 23
Shane O'Neill's 12 8 2 2 18
Eire Og 14 9 0 5 18
Derrynoose 13 7 2 4 16
Mullaghbrack 14 8 0 6 16
Dorsey Emmett's 16 7 2 7 16
Forkhill 15 7 1 7 15
O'Hanlon's 15 4 2 9 10
Corrinshego 16 2 0 14 4
Phelim Brady's 16 0 0 16 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 03, 2007, 10:30:17 AM
Quote from: corn02 on August 31, 2007, 02:35:15 PM
Winsamsoon where were you on 9/11?

This is a unrelated question to the topic we are discussing Corn but if you can tell me why you want to know i will gladly answer it for you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2007, 12:32:18 PM
I go off for a few weeks and you all lose the run of yourselves :P

Made the replay between Cross and Dromintee and have to say I was disappointed by it.  Although a tense game, it never really lived up to much as a contest.  Dromintee had good performers in Dyas and AOR to a lesser extent.  I felt Cross won and never really got out of second gear.  They don't generally lose replays so I expected the reult to be like that.  Once again Dromintee have to do some serious soul searching to see if they can actually steo over the now Everest like mental challenge of beating Cross in the championship.

I am not going to trail through all the posts about Cross "poaching" players.  I was talking to a well repsected Bridge man though the other day, (not the one you think Pints either) and I happened to mention by the by about Ciaran Conlon and whta the craic was with him.  He would know more than anyone here about the in and outs of it (apart from Ciaran himself, who is a poster here, I believe) and I asked him if Cross approached the lad.  He said to me that the lad had asked to join Cross, one of the club managers (not the senior managers I might add) said it would be a good idea, the upper levels of the club said it was not happening, ie Eddie Hughes.  He may be a decent player but would struggle to make the Cross team.  He was not even the best of his age group in this man's opinion.  He told me the reasons behind the row and it smacks of a young lad playing his fathers failed football career for his da, and I know his da and that is a very sad situation.

As regards the other players "stolen"(WTF :o)  you may as well say that Cross poached me from Cullyhanna because I went to primary school there.  JD fell out with Cullyhanna and wanted to join Cross, whether that was due to the fact that we are a successful club, or perhaps that it is the closest club to him in the area is open for discussion, but the rest of the players mentioned have had either family ties with the club or have played for Cross from underage level when their own local club did not have a team at his age group ie Colm O'Neill.

As for the accusation by pints that Cross are going round places like Creggan trying to encourage young ones to join, catch a grip, for a start there is no need for Cross to do that as many young kids will always want to play for a successful team and the same happens across the world.  Cross have enough young ones coming through the gates without having to go out to find more.  Look inside your own clubs people before casting unsustainable aspertions against other clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 03, 2007, 12:41:46 PM
Was at the B final last night, pretty decent game,entertaining 'til the end.  Cullyhanna instigated a row after the match, from what I could see it was the number 5 who started the whole thing then ran like shite, few 'fans' pilled in too.  Wasn't a dirty game either.  Cullyhanna dominated the second half and got back to within a point but couldn't quite draw level.  Seen plenty of worse rows.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 03, 2007, 12:45:52 PM
QuoteAs for the accusation by pints that Cross are going round places like Creggan trying to encourage young ones to join, catch a grip, for a start there is no need for Cross to do that as many young kids will always want to play for a successful team and the same happens across the world.  Cross have enough young ones coming through the gates without having to go out to find more.  Look inside your own clubs people before casting unsustainable aspertions against other clubs.
What's that suppose to mean?
I never mentioned creggan BC. 
Cross haven't targetted our underage players who are with the county's development squads?

I'll answer the rest of your post later.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2007, 12:58:16 PM
QuoteAs for the accusation by pints that Cross are going round places like Creggan trying to encourage young ones to join, catch a grip, for a start there is no need for Cross to do that as many young kids will always want to play for a successful team and the same happens across the world.  Cross have enough young ones coming through the gates without having to go out to find more. 

Look inside your own clubs people before casting unsustainable aspertions against other clubs.
What's that suppose to mean?

It means worry about your own club and how to develop its players and its structures before looking to phantom excuses for your young players not breaking through.  I am echoing the thoughts of the man I spoke to.

You may not have mentioned Creggan but someone did.  The area doesn't matter the same principle applies.  If you have examples of Cross targetting you under age players at development squads let us know, otherwise stop making accustions with half stories.

Maybe that is what your later response will hold, so I wait in trepidation!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 03, 2007, 10:40:48 PM
bc
QuoteIt means worry about your own club and how to develop its players and its structures before looking to phantom excuses for your young players not breaking through.  I am echoing the thoughts of the man I spoke to.
What an odd thing to say, and what an odd thing to imply a bridge man said. 
For a start, no one is even talking about young players not breaking through never mind blaming cross for it!  The underage structure has never been as good in the club and In fact we've a problem with players breaking through as we can't get a settled senior team or one with an average age of more than 21 - but it's a nice problem to have.  Don't you be worrying your wee head about us.


QuoteYou may not have mentioned Creggan but someone did.  The area doesn't matter the same principle applies.  If you have examples of Cross targetting you under age players at development squads let us know, otherwise stop making accustions with half stories.

You know rightly I'm not going to come on here and name children!  As I'm not prepared to do that I won't name the cross stars that were trying to tempt them away.  Now, you or others, can call me a liar if you want, that's up to yourselves.


QuoteI am not going to trail through all the posts about Cross "poaching" players.  I was talking to a well repsected Bridge man though the other day, (not the one you think Pints either) and I happened to mention by the by about Ciaran Conlon and whta the craic was with him.  He would know more than anyone here about the in and outs of it (apart from Ciaran himself, who is a poster here, I believe) and I asked him if Cross approached the lad.  He said to me that the lad had asked to join Cross, one of the club managers (not the senior managers I might add) said it would be a good idea, the upper levels of the club said it was not happening, ie Eddie Hughes.  He may be a decent player but would struggle to make the Cross team.  He was not even the best of his age group in this man's opinion.  He told me the reasons behind the row and it smacks of a young lad playing his fathers failed football career for his da, and I know his da and that is a very sad situation.

Well, no one said anything about cross approaching ciaran conlon.
I'm glad you found out the reasons though where were you a few months back when people were assuming the club was at fault. 
I think it's unfair to say he wouldn't make the Cross team, he would have the ability to do so.  In fact, talent wise, with maybe the exception of McConville or McEntee he'd be as good as any Cross forward.  Trouble is, with his attiude, not many teams would have him.  I would imagine also if clubs learned the reasons (the real ones) why he left the bridge they wouldnt be falling over themselves either. 
It's a sad case because he has the talent and the abiilty and also the commitment and dedication but as I'm sure you learned it's parts of his attitude that stinks and did actually begin to affect his play. I really hope he catches himself on, even if he never plays for us again.

I would imagine when you say you believe he posts here you're talking about twotwocharlie.  Have to say the same thought crossed my mind but I would give the lad more credit than that.   



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on September 03, 2007, 10:47:49 PM
Why did he leave silverbridge
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 03, 2007, 10:55:18 PM
that must be your first post without a spelling mistake  ::)

You slipping up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 03, 2007, 11:19:07 PM
i see pints you are back to your usual drivel blaming c.conlon and no one else for the situation at silverbridge . as i said before it,s a sign of good management that everyone is kept on board. to blame conlon and only conlon is pure bullshit and you f**king know that. but then you are never short of an opinion.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 03, 2007, 11:26:40 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 03, 2007, 11:19:07 PM
i see pints you are back to your usual drivel blaming c.conlon and no one else for the situation at silverbridge . as i said before it,s a sign of good management that everyone is kept on board. to blame conlon and only conlon is pure bullshit and you f**king know that. but then you are never short of an opinion.
:)

Yes you're right, they management should have went crawling on their hands and knees to ciaran, dunno why they didn't myself!  ::)
Why don't you tell us what the managment did wrong?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 03, 2007, 11:55:19 PM
where in my post do i mention crawling. some common sense was all that was needed. but as you are blinded by your own bullshit i don,t expect you to see this. your still yapping on about cross stealing players and yet cannot see the folly of letting c.conlon go.
but you and your clique were happy to see his father go so i am not surprised with your attitude towards the son.
let me say for the last time conlon is a very good player and everything should be done to encourage him back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 03, 2007, 11:59:00 PM
Me and my clique?  :D   :D   :D

What should have been done to make him stay or what should be done to make him come back?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 04, 2007, 12:03:06 AM
go to your bed your teddy is very lonely.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 04, 2007, 12:04:17 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 04, 2007, 12:26:40 AM
twotwocharlie...ciaran conlon...CC...

Pints I am not asking you to name names.  You did say however at the time of the argument a few months back that Conlon was approached by one of the Kernans, so you did say that Cross approached him.

If you believe that Cross approaching players that is your perogative but I don't see the logic in it.  In my whole time at under age there was never any additions of any note so it is not like it is some phenomenon that has been used to bleed clubs dry.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 04, 2007, 12:30:40 AM
QuoteYou did say however at the time of the argument a few months back that Conlon was approached by one of the Kernans, so you did say that Cross approached him.

No I didn't BC because the first time I heard Conlon's name being mentioned with cross was when dontcare mentioned it on here a week or so ago. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 04, 2007, 02:06:41 PM
Lads i don't know the ins and outs of the whole scenario regarding conlon but i would agree with pints when he says that managers should never crawl to any player. No player is bigger than a club or team for that matter. However i do believe that managers should try to find a happy medium with their players but again if it interfers with any aspect of the team or the moral then he should simply be told to walk the line.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 04, 2007, 05:33:08 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 04, 2007, 02:06:41 PM
Lads i don't know the ins and outs of the whole scenario regarding conlon but i would agree with pints when he says that managers should never crawl to any player. No player is bigger than a club or team for that matter. However i do believe that managers should try to find a happy medium with their players but again if it interfers with any aspect of the team or the moral then he should simply be told to walk the line.

Couldn't agree more.
and btw the management made attempts to "find a happy medium" but it was threw back in their face.  I'd be very confident that if people knew the full story 99.9% could find no fault with the way it was handled by club or management. 

But that's it, the whole thing is finished with.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 04, 2007, 06:06:20 PM
bullshit
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 04, 2007, 11:09:49 PM
Such a reply ::) Corn can you explain the 9/11 question ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 05, 2007, 01:19:58 AM
QuoteI'd be very confident that if people knew the full story 99.9% could find no fault with the way it was handled by club or management

Quotebullshit

twotwocharlie you are a man in a thousand.  :-X
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 05, 2007, 08:22:08 AM
Whats the odds for this weekend's championships matches

I predicts Cross by 10pts
           and Ogs by 5pts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 05, 2007, 08:40:26 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on September 05, 2007, 08:22:08 AM
Whats the odds for this weekend's championships matches

I predicts Cross by 10pts
           and Ogs by 5pts

Ogs to win by wan and Cross to win by 4.
I was off there for a while and it took me an hour to read back on the posts i've missed and i didn't miss much. I can take it that the Porty men will not surface for a while now they got what i told them they'd get (beat by Cruppin and relegated).

Winsam i think he was getting at you suggesting you should be one of the Al Quieda (and don't correct me on my spelling lads)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 05, 2007, 08:48:07 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on September 05, 2007, 08:22:08 AM
Whats the odds for this weekend's championships matches

I predicts Cross by 10pts
           and Ogs by 5pts

Cross by 7
Ogs by 1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 05, 2007, 09:13:28 AM
cross by 4
maghery by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 05, 2007, 09:22:27 AM
Cant see anything other than a Cross victory, but i think the Ogs game could go right to the wire!!! ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 05, 2007, 09:27:11 AM
I reckon Maghery could take the Ogs as well, any prices available on Maghery about the town?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 05, 2007, 10:02:34 AM
are maghery not slight favourites
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 05, 2007, 10:13:25 AM
If you had your way el cuervo every team you play would be the favourites - you almost tried to make the Nab favourites in the last round ::) :D

Og's v Maghery: Tight game ahead. Hopefully it will be an open game unlike the majority of games so far in the championship. Draw

Cross v Cruppen:  Cruppen have done well to get this far & but for a better draw could have found themselves in the County final. Cross to power ahead before half time then cruise home by 6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 05, 2007, 10:19:13 AM
Quote from: full back on September 05, 2007, 10:13:25 AM
If you had your way el cuervo every team you play would be the favourites - you almost tried to make the Nab favourites in the last round ::) :D

Og's v Maghery: Tight game ahead. Hopefully it will be an open game unlike the majority of games so far in the championship. Draw

Cross v Cruppen:  Cruppen have done well to get this far & but for a better draw could have found themselves in the County final. Cross to power ahead before half time then cruise home by 6

If i recall correctly i said the Ogs v Nab match would be a draw, I wasn't far off the mark ;)

Obviously i'd like Maghery to be favourites, It leaves less pressure on the underdogs and gives even more of an incentive to win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 05, 2007, 10:30:48 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 05, 2007, 10:19:13 AM
If i recall correctly i said the Ogs v Nab match would be a draw, I wasn't far off the mark ;)

If that is your aspirations you shouldnt even be in the Senior Championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 05, 2007, 10:32:28 AM
well we are  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 05, 2007, 10:45:35 AM
Well then stop acting like a f**king politician
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 05, 2007, 11:18:11 AM
tut tut, such aggression.

I posted earlier that i thought cross would win by 7 and the Ogs would win by a point. 

I reckon our match on saturday will be a close encounter with us eventually winning, where's the politics in that?

We have played Maghery twice this year.  the First game, at home was a draw

The second game we won by 2 points, with Maghery having a goal disallowed in the last minute for a square ball.

Therefore in reflection there's not much between the teams.  We got a kick up the ass the last time against the Nab and I think we will win this after a tight struggle
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 05, 2007, 08:47:50 PM
Cross to win by a comfortable 5 points

I think Maghery have the stronger midfield and pose the bigger threat up front if clarke isnt starting. Although Ogs are strong enough in defence.

Draw.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 05, 2007, 10:25:11 PM
any odds on this weekend cship games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 06, 2007, 08:32:57 AM
What do you guys make of McDonnell's appointment as the new gaffer??, i don't know much about the man all i know is he took the U21's for the last 2 years. You men from south Armagh would know more about him than me so is he gonna do the business?

On a personal note i would have prefeered Grimley but now that McDonnell has got the job he has to be give a fair chance. the Irish news said he was the last man to defeat Cross in the championship (i hope the feck thats not why he got the job or we're fcuked, thats 12 years ago)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 06, 2007, 09:57:59 AM
think maghery ogs could be a good game of football.paul and stefan forker will have be watched carefully though mallon will be fit for either.game coiuld come down to midfield battle and with lavery there maghery could shade it,though ogs greater experience could be telling
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 06, 2007, 09:59:55 AM
Ogs would need to buck up their ideas from the last day and the big named players need to show their worth in this game.....
Its set to be an entertaining game?!?!?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 06, 2007, 03:37:46 PM
I think Davitt Park will suit the Og's on sat as they have won there recently beating the Clans whereas i can't recall Maghery winning in Davitt for a while. And Maghery are used with a small tight pitch so the open spaces of Davitt might not suit.

We are training on it tonight so i'll have to remember to replace the divits :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 06, 2007, 08:07:18 PM
illdecide.......peter mcdonnell will do just fine. he,s no mug thats for sure. played under him some years ago. sound man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 06, 2007, 11:09:17 PM
I expect Cross to get through by 4 after a tough game. Also expect Magher yt o have a few points to spare over the OGs, obviously it will depend on a family of forwards performing but I expect them to.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 07, 2007, 10:46:21 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 06, 2007, 08:07:18 PM
illdecide.......peter mcdonnell will do just fine. he,s no mug thats for sure. played under him some years ago. sound man.

if you played under him some years ago you must mean last year or year b4 on the u 21 panel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 07, 2007, 10:49:28 AM
Quote from: dontcare on September 07, 2007, 10:46:21 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 06, 2007, 08:07:18 PM
illdecide.......peter mcdonnell will do just fine. he,s no mug thats for sure. played under him some years ago. sound man.

if you played under him some years ago you must mean last year or year b4 on the u 21 panel

Mayb ur man was rite wen he said 22charlie was C. Conlon!! ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 07, 2007, 12:25:40 PM
Unless I'm mistaken (and I could be) dickhead there got Conlon's age wrong a month or so ago.

I wouldn't pass much remarks to anything he says as almost all of his posts include a lie. 
I think Conlon deserves the benefit of the doubt on this one, I would be surprised if he's that big of a dickhead to come on here looking attention.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on September 07, 2007, 12:51:22 PM
Anyone know the championship dates, times and locations I have heard a few conflicting reports this week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 07, 2007, 02:01:59 PM
Ogsv Maghery is at Davitt park saturday evening with a 5:30 throw in. Corn you still haven't explained the 9/11 jibe???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 07, 2007, 02:07:24 PM
Oh I thought you would have worked it out by now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 07, 2007, 03:24:52 PM
cruppen game on sunday at 5.30pm in silverbridge
cruppen to win by 2 ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 07, 2007, 04:04:08 PM
I couldn't be more lost corn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 07, 2007, 05:02:47 PM
if we can get the first half performance of the clann eireann replay and the second half performance of the tir na nog replay maybe just maybe there could be a little upset on the cards!

cruppen by 1 will do me just lovely!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 07, 2007, 07:07:46 PM
Carrickcruppen has as much chance of beating Crossmaglen as Paul Grimley had of being appointed Armagh manager.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cross4capital on September 07, 2007, 10:25:41 PM
i think cross will hammer cruppen, well i hope so too cruppen have been very cocky and i mean why? who have they got tat dungbag paul keenan? sure you may as well put his fat useless brother in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 07, 2007, 11:03:09 PM
Cross will be taking the cruppen threat very seriously given their championship tradition and the fact that they have a one hundred percent success record against us in our last 5 meetings even though it has been some time since we last met
Prior to 1978 cross generally had the upper hand against cruppen in championship encounters. We were Armagh title holders when we met them in the first round of the championship in 1978 in mullabawn Cruppen were leading by a point with a couple of minutes left Cross had about 5 opportunities to get an equalising point but we kept going for a goal to win the match and they held on to beat us by a point.
Our present club chairman Tommy Coleman was full back for Cruppen that day.
Cruppen proceeded to beat us in the championship each year up to and including the final of1982 and we haven't met since.
So whilst we expect to scrape home by a couple of points we certainly wont be treating them lightly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 07, 2007, 11:05:04 PM
QuoteOur present club chairman Tommy Coleman was full back for Cruppen that day.

Stole him as well?   :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 07, 2007, 11:44:49 PM
You fell for it Pints !!!!

Where does your Chairman Donal Walsh come from.

Again...ever heard of "People in glass houses" ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 08, 2007, 12:01:12 AM
QuoteYou fell for it Pints !!!!
Aye I did ,  :D

QuoteWhere does your Chairman Donal Walsh come from.
Jesus Walsh would love that  :D  I'd say if asked he'd say the bridge.

Here, do yous have any cross men in there at all?

Where are you from yourself?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 08, 2007, 10:53:30 AM
u r a muppet pints arent ya?? :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 08, 2007, 10:55:43 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 08, 2007, 05:06:03 PM
cross4capital - dont know where you got the idea that we are being cocky from?????

what reason have we got to be cocky? erm......we only manage to hold are own in division 2 and we have got to the semi-final of the senior championship for the first time in 14 years - dont think that warrants the title of being cocky!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 08, 2007, 06:09:56 PM
Pearse Ogs 4-2 up, got text there about five minutes ago from fella at the match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 08, 2007, 06:11:52 PM
Half time the ogs winnin 4-2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on September 08, 2007, 08:51:04 PM
Ogs won by a point today.  Exciting enough game but poor on quality.  Hotly disputed goal kept Maghery in it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 08, 2007, 11:45:24 PM
The goal was a bit of a joke, the gazette photographer had it on camera and showed that the ball was not across the line. it will be interesting if its in the paper this week.

Maghery were poor tonight, in saying that the ogs full back line had them well marshalled.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 09, 2007, 08:52:39 AM
Tullysaran minors were hammered by Granemore in the minor semi final replay yesterday.

The Saran had to play without most of their county minors as they were injured as a result of the College trip to Toronto last week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on September 09, 2007, 10:38:40 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on September 08, 2007, 11:45:24 PM
The goal was a bit of a joke, the gazette photographer had it on camera and showed that the ball was not across the line. it will be interesting if its in the paper this week.

Maghery were poor tonight, in saying that the ogs full back line had them well marshalled.

Problem with a still photograph is that it may not have a been at the exact second the umpire thought the ball was over the line.  Consequently the photo may have been just before or just after the ball did cross the line.  The umpire who gave it is our club ref so it will be interesting to see what he says about it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 09, 2007, 11:22:53 AM
Quote from: Take Your Points on September 09, 2007, 10:52:49 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 09, 2007, 08:52:39 AM
Tullysaran minors were hammered by Granemore in the minor semi final replay yesterday.

The Saran had to play without most of their county minors as they were injured as a result of the College trip to Toronto last week.

It must have been some trip!

David Comiskey (Armagh minor captain) came back with a broken arm and another with broken fingers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 09, 2007, 01:01:24 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on September 09, 2007, 10:38:40 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on September 08, 2007, 11:45:24 PM
The goal was a bit of a joke, the gazette photographer had it on camera and showed that the ball was not across the line. it will be interesting if its in the paper this week.

Maghery were poor tonight, in saying that the ogs full back line had them well marshalled.

Problem with a still photograph is that it may not have a been at the exact second the umpire thought the ball was over the line.  Consequently the photo may have been just before or just after the ball did cross the line.  The umpire who gave it is our club ref so it will be interesting to see what he says about it.

If there's any1 at the match who thought that was a 'goal' apart from your club officiall (musta been getting a nice handshake for that decision) they'd need to go to their nearest specsavers and book an appointment asap!!!

Maghery were nothing special I thought and once again el cuervo proves his worth in the match prediciton. Same again for the final el cuervo??

When is the final down to be played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 09, 2007, 02:17:23 PM
Killeavy beat the bridge by 3. 

We weren't in the game for the first 15 minutes, let Killeavy walk over us and were down by 5 points at one stage.  The introduction of Damien McCann shook us up a bit and we put it up to killeavy, couldn't make up the difference though. 
I think the better team won. 

Have to say, yet another disgraceful refereeing performance.  McDonnell stuck twice, got nothing for the first and a f**king tick, A TICK!, for the second. 
Stanfield acting the **** the whole game, sure what's new there, he was living dangerously on a yellow and tick (for swinging a player around by the neck!) for most of the second half.
Kick in the head gets a yellow card (before anyone from killeavy comes on – yes I know our player hit him a kick in the leg a few seconds before – he wasn't the only one kicking though was he??). 

Disgraceful!  Killeavy could have finished the game with 12 or 13!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 09, 2007, 03:03:39 PM
Clans beat mullaghbwn by 4 points an easy enough victory in a hard hitting game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on September 09, 2007, 03:29:28 PM
Quote from: BenDover on September 09, 2007, 01:01:24 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on September 09, 2007, 10:38:40 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on September 08, 2007, 11:45:24 PM
The goal was a bit of a joke, the gazette photographer had it on camera and showed that the ball was not across the line. it will be interesting if its in the paper this week.

Maghery were poor tonight, in saying that the ogs full back line had them well marshalled.

Problem with a still photograph is that it may not have a been at the exact second the umpire thought the ball was over the line.  Consequently the photo may have been just before or just after the ball did cross the line.  The umpire who gave it is our club ref so it will be interesting to see what he says about it.

If there's any1 at the match who thought that was a 'goal' apart from your club officiall (musta been getting a nice handshake for that decision) they'd need to go to their nearest specsavers and book an appointment asap!!!

Maghery were nothing special I thought and once again el cuervo proves his worth in the match prediciton. Same again for the final el cuervo??

When is the final down to be played?

From where I was it didnt look a goal but there was nobody with as good a view as the two umpires so Im giving him the benefit of the doubt
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on September 09, 2007, 04:50:13 PM
anportmor beat st.pauls by about 20 points today any1 know the result between madden and sarsfields
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: aidanmcg33 on September 09, 2007, 06:54:21 PM
cross winning 2;14 to 1:9
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 09, 2007, 07:49:29 PM
Cross won by 8 or 9 points.

Cullyhanna robbed Ballymacnab in the u16 final - two goals in the last few minutes (one penalty). 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on September 09, 2007, 08:24:52 PM
Result : Cross 2-16 Cruppen 1-10
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 09, 2007, 08:58:13 PM

Closer than the final result suggests. cruppen gave up after short's goal and cross strolled home from there. some good glimpses of class from loughran and an excellent second half from oisin. haven't seen cross so complacent and nonchelant in a long time as they were in the first half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 09, 2007, 10:22:54 PM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS & TABLES FOR W/E SUNDAY 9 SEPTEMBER 2007


Wednesday 5 September

ACL – Div. IV
O'Hanlon's 0-10; Forkhill 1-15


Friday 7 September

Minor Football Championship Semi-Final
Crossmaglen 2-6; St Patrick's 3-6


Saturday 8 September

Senior Football Championship Semi-Final
Maghery 1-6; Pearse Og 0-10

Minor Football Championship Semi-Final Replay
Granemore 4-16; Tullysaran 0-5


Sunday 9 September

Armagh Senior Football Championship Semi-Final
Carrickcruppen 1-10; Crossmaglen 2-16

Armagh Under-16 Football Championship Final Replay
Ballymacnab 2-10; St Patrick's 3-8

ACL – Div. I
Tir na nÓg 1-9; Whitecross 3-11
Clan na Gael 1-12; Mullaghbawn 1-9
Harps v Culloville (Abandoned due to a serious injury)

ACL – Div. II
Keady 0-12; Annaghmore 1-7
Wolfe Tones 0-8; Ballymacnab 1-14
Silverbridge 0-10; Killeavey 1-10
Granemore 0-13; St Michael's 1-12
St Patrick's 1-11; St Peter's 0-3

ACL – Div. III
Lissummon 1-12; Ballyhegan 0-14
Tullysaran 1-8; Clady 1-7
Collegeland 3-8; Clonmore 1-9
Sarsfields 3-19; Madden 0-7
Crossmaglen II v Middletown (Off)
An Port Mor 1-20; St Paul's 0-9

ACL – Div. IV
Eire Og 0-9; Derrynoose 1-7
Belleek v Grange (Off)
Corrinshego 0-7; Mullaghbrack 0-7
Shane O'Neill's 1-15; Phelim Brady's 0-2



ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 11 10 0 1 20
Dromintee 13 8 1 4 17
Pearse Og 13 8 1 4 17
Clan na Gael 15 7 2 6 16
Mullaghbawn 15 7 2 6 16
Maghery 13 7 1 5 15
Harps 14 6 2 6 14
Whitecross 14 5 0 9 10
Culloville 13 3 2 8 8
Tir na nÓg 15 1 1 13 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
St Patrick's 16 15 0 1 30
Killeavey 17 13 1 3 27
Silverbridge 16 11 1 4 23
St Michael's 16 10 3 3 23
Carrickcruppen 11 8 0 3 16
Clann Eireann 14 7 0 7 14
Ballymacnab 17 7 0 10 14
Granemore 15 6 0 9 12
Keady 16 5 1 10 11
Wolfe Tones 17 3 2 12 8
St Peter's 17 3 0 14 6
Annaghmore 16 2 0 14 4

Division III
P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 16 14 0 2 28
An Port Mor 17 14 0 3 28
Madden 17 13 0 4 26
Collegeland 16 11 1 4 23
Lissummon 17 8 2 7 18
Tullysaran 16 6 2 8 14
St Paul's 15 5 2 8 12
Clonmore 18 6 0 12 12
Ballyhegan 15 5 0 10 10
Crossmaglen II 15 3 1 11 7
Middletown 11 3 0 8 6
Clady 15 1 2 12 4

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Belleek 14 12 0 2 24
Grange 15 10 1 3 23
Shane O'Neill's 13 9 2 2 20
Derrynoose 14 8 2 4 18
Eire Og 15 9 0 6 18
Mullaghbrack 15 8 1 6 17
Forkhill 16 8 1 7 17
Dorsey Emmett's 16 7 2 7 16
O'Hanlon's 16 4 2 10 10
Corrinshego 17 2 1 14 5
Phelim Brady's 17 0 0 17 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on September 09, 2007, 11:35:50 PM
Cross are going to be hard to stop !



Here's a thought - night big Joe take over Crossmaglen again in the near future ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 09, 2007, 11:44:29 PM
Short's goal killed off the Cross game. They win because they have the likes of Short on the line who mightn't have the legs for a whole game but who is very effective nonetheless. Hanratty wasn't doing much before that.

There was a good crowd. I would criticise one aspect of organisation at the bridge. There should not be cars driving through the crowd. Whatever about cars parking on banks for regular games when everyone fits in the stand it isn't appropriate for a championship game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 09, 2007, 11:56:21 PM
There were cars allowed in?  I wasn't at the game but normally for these occasions the only cars allowed up to the field would be the disabled/people unable to leave the car.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on September 09, 2007, 11:58:39 PM
Pints - will Big Joe take over Cross again ? I heard that is his plan - what you think ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2007, 12:14:52 AM
Quote from: orangeman on September 09, 2007, 11:58:39 PM
Pints - will Big Joe take over Cross again ? I heard that is his plan - what you think ?
Couldnt care less what Cross or Big Joe do.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 10, 2007, 12:17:56 AM
Here lads who got the serious injury at the harps game. More importantly how is the lad?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2007, 12:19:07 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 10, 2007, 12:17:56 AM
Here lads who got the serious injury at the harps game. More importantly how is the lad?
Alan O'Neill, neck injury. 
Rufus posted on harps thread.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 10, 2007, 12:20:31 AM
QuoteThere were cars allowed in?

There was a lot of cars behind the hill goals. Several cars left at the end of the U16 game just as the crowd was coming in while half a dozen SUVs and Mercs, without any obviously disabled people, headed off along the terrace 5 mins from the end of the game after Short scored the goal.

A good plan is in Cross for county games when they don't open the gates until most of the crowd has gone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on September 10, 2007, 10:38:53 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 10, 2007, 12:20:31 AM
QuoteThere were cars allowed in?

There was a lot of cars behind the hill goals. Several cars left at the end of the U16 game just as the crowd was coming in while half a dozen SUVs and Mercs, without any obviously disabled people, headed off along the terrace 5 mins from the end of the game after Short scored the goal.

A good plan is in Cross for county games when they don't open the gates until most of the crowd has gone.

those cars i would assume arrived early as not to pay in when there were no officials at the gates and common sense should have prevailed in not leaving until after the game was over
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 10, 2007, 10:44:34 AM
Quotethose cars i would assume arrived early as not to pay in when there were no officials at the gates and common sense should have prevailed in not leaving until after the game was over

perhaps people who seek to avoid paying in are not the most public spirited of individuals and don't mind causing some inconvenience when leaving early?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 10, 2007, 11:08:14 AM
No offence to POG, but the'Bridge is one of the worst venues in the county for a big game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on September 10, 2007, 11:39:37 AM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 10, 2007, 11:53:39 AM
was at the game in davitt park saturday was a poor game all in all but got exciting when big lavery took things by the scruff of the neck near the end of the game.though paul and stefan forker where terrible,very well marshalled by the ogs full back line.the goal was dubious to say the least and gave maghery hope when the game looked dead and buried.

thought greg loughran had an immense game and hope he makes a big push for the senior panel this year.thought shorty clarke also had a good game for the ogs and hughes was good but seemed to run out of legs.

of what i have seen of stefan forker he is overhyped.missed a 14 yard free in the first half,never looked like scoring from play and missed a pressure kick to get maghery an undeserved draw(though was difficult free).hope he is knowhere near starting this year.

cross got their expected win,how people thought cruppen would get anywhere near them is beyond me.they probably wont even get out of the second division.if clarke was flying fit i could see an upset but he is not so cant see anything but another cross title
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 10, 2007, 12:02:26 PM
Didnt read it myself, but did anyone read Oisin's column in the Sunday Life yesterday?
Did he really say it was hard to motivate the team to play a 2nd division team in the Championship?
:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 10, 2007, 12:24:56 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on September 10, 2007, 11:53:39 AM
was at the game in davitt park saturday was a poor game all in all but got exciting when big lavery took things by the scruff of the neck near the end of the game.though paul and stefan forker where terrible,very well marshalled by the ogs full back line.the goal was dubious to say the least and gave maghery hope when the game looked dead and buried.

thought greg loughran had an immense game and hope he makes a big push for the senior panel this year.thought shorty clarke also had a good game for the ogs and hughes was good but seemed to run out of legs.

of what i have seen of stefan forker he is overhyped.missed a 14 yard free in the first half,never looked like scoring from play and missed a pressure kick to get maghery an undeserved draw(though was difficult free).hope he is knowhere near starting this year.

cross got their expected win,how people thought cruppen would get anywhere near them is beyond me.they probably wont even get out of the second division.if clarke was flying fit i could see an upset but he is not so cant see anything but another cross title

Stefan told the ref that he would miss that 14 yard free. Thats what the 2 Umpires came out with up at the top goals and i was standing beside them, and i'm sure Winsam can confirm this. So WTF is that all about?????
Title: DAVID MEKEOWN
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 10, 2007, 12:26:08 PM
Yes a clonmore man doing umpire at a neighbours game hardly neutral, hes also the came cnut who got mckinney sent of a few years ago against Cruppen in the championship

top class asrehole!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 10, 2007, 12:50:09 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on September 10, 2007, 11:53:39 AM
cross got their expected win,how people thought cruppen would get anywhere near them is beyond me.

who thought that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 10, 2007, 12:59:29 PM
umgola - mckinney got himself sent off against cruppen a few years back! you cannot go around throwing headbutts and expect to stay on the pitch just because you are a sub goalkeeper on the county team!

charlie - if you had been at the game you would have seen that the scoreline flattered crossmaglen there was only 2 points in it going into the last 10 minutes when cross got their second goal and for the best part of 45 to 50 minutes (and before there is any smart reply's - yes i do know the game last 60 minutes) crossmaglen knew they had been in a game! peter loughran gave tony mcentee an absolute run around yesterday, had anyone else been marking peter they would have been switched or even substituted, think the calls for tony mc as the county full-back can finally be put to bed after his performance yesterday.

full-back - yes oisin did say it was hard to get motivated for a game against a second divison team but he did also go onto mention cruppen's championship history and that they would provide stern opposition.

difference in the two teams yesterday was strength of panels and bit more cuteness from crossmaglen i do wish them well in the final!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 10, 2007, 01:01:24 PM
£1000 @ 7/1 thought they would win ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 10, 2007, 01:07:26 PM
full-back is there no one from your club would bet £1000 on them to win a game in the championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 10, 2007, 01:11:26 PM
Dont get so defensive ds, it is good to see the players had confidence in themselves
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 10, 2007, 01:13:13 PM
i can categorically confirm that it wasn't the players who had the bet on!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2007, 01:18:30 PM
Quote from: full back on September 10, 2007, 11:08:14 AM
No offence to POG, but the'Bridge is one of the worst venues in the county for a big game.


And why is that?
Title: diesel Smuggler
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 10, 2007, 01:25:45 PM
There was no head butt by mckinney, cruppen man threw himself to the ground and thats that!!!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 10, 2007, 01:27:48 PM
umgola if that is the case then why did mckinney beg the cruppen player to try and get him off at the disciplinary hearing????
Title: Re: DAVID MEKEOWN
Post by: David McKeown on September 10, 2007, 01:43:37 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on September 10, 2007, 12:26:08 PM
Yes a clonmore man doing umpire at a neighbours game hardly neutral, hes also the came cnut who got mckinney sent of a few years ago against Cruppen in the championship

top class asrehole!!!

Id need to check but Id be pretty sure hes an Annaghmore man.  From my many meetings with him during the years I can tell you thats hes an honest and unbiased an official as I have seen.  If he believes it to have been behind the line then I am willing to accept his word on the matter.  If for nothing else he had a better view than anyone else.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cross4capital on September 10, 2007, 01:57:30 PM
so will cruppen piss away off back to the intermediate and leave the senior champ to the big boys now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 10, 2007, 02:11:00 PM
Quoteso will cruppen piss away off back to the intermediate and leave the senior champ to the big boys now?

Would you ever shut up and don't give our club a bad name you idiot >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 10, 2007, 02:16:23 PM
Crossmaglen were well worth their win last night but will need to be on their toes in the final against Pearse Og.
I take that the Senior and Minor Football Finals will be at Armagh GAA Headquarters on Sunday 30th September 2007.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cross4capital on September 10, 2007, 02:24:41 PM
broken crossbar how am i giving it a bad name? cruppen are useless shouldnt be playin anywhere near us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 10, 2007, 02:29:33 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 10, 2007, 02:11:00 PM
Quoteso will cruppen piss away off back to the intermediate and leave the senior champ to the big boys now?

Would you ever shut up and don't give our club a bad name you idiot >:(

Hardly in the spirit of the game c4c!!  :-\

Fair play BC1!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 10, 2007, 02:37:19 PM
C4C, the success has been built on giving every team their due respect.  To tell a team to piss away off is not respect.  They are not as good as Cross but few are, and any team that gets to a semi final generally does so because the are pretty handy.

Arrogance like yours is the reason what some people don't like Cross and it is not befitting of the club to have gobshites spouting off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 10, 2007, 02:52:13 PM
Don't worry about BC1 every club has them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 10, 2007, 03:43:23 PM
Yeah i would agree with broken cross bar, we should give cruppen the respect they deserve for reaching this stage of the competition. I may also add that they put up a pretty good scoreline against the cross aswell. This total would be plentiful to win many championship games. It is just that the cross scored more ( and i don't mean this in a sarcastic way) I am glad to see a division 2 team getting stuck into the senior championship because most of the teams in the first div know the ins and outs of each other so it is good to have new challenges.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Against the Breeze on September 10, 2007, 04:05:03 PM
Could anyone shed any light on Alan O'Neill's injury? I'm hearing that many conflicting reports and a bit of clarity would clear all the rumours up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 10, 2007, 04:19:53 PM
Quote from: Against the Breeze on September 10, 2007, 04:05:03 PM
Could anyone shed any light on Alan O'Neill's injury? I'm hearing that many conflicting reports and a bit of clarity would clear all the rumours up.

He had a bad injury years ago if i'm not mistaken on either his neck or back and thats why he had to leave the county panel. If i can remember correctly he was advised not to be playing contact sport anymore.

Hope all's well for Alan as he's a decent big lad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 10, 2007, 05:06:16 PM
Cross 4 capital

SHUT UP CHILD
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on September 10, 2007, 07:15:08 PM
Any word on the hurling championship matches lads. Just heard that middletown won there match and it cut up a but rough at times and that keady won their game pretty handy but no more real detail than that. Any reports?

Is the final date set, what will the venue be?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on September 10, 2007, 08:12:05 PM
ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 11 10 0 1 20
Dromintee 13 8 1 4 17
Pearse Og 13 8 1 4 17
Clan na Gael 15 7 2 6 16
Mullaghbawn 15 7 2 6 16
Maghery 13 7 1 5 15
Harps 14 6 2 6 14
Whitecross 14 5 0 9 10
Culloville 13 3 2 8 8
Tir na nÓg 15 1 1 13 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
St Patrick's 16 15 0 1 30
Killeavey 17 13 1 3 27
Silverbridge 16 11 1 4 23
St Michael's 16 10 3 3 23
Carrickcruppen 11 8 0 3 16
Clann Eireann 14 7 0 7 14
Ballymacnab 17 7 0 10 14
Granemore 15 6 0 9 12
Keady 16 5 1 10 11
Wolfe Tones 17 3 2 12 8
St Peter's 17 3 0 14 6
Annaghmore 16 2 0 14 4

Division III
P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 17 15 0 2 30
An Port Mor 17 14 0 3 28
Madden 17 13 0 4 26
Collegeland 16 11 1 4 23
Lissummon 17 8 2 7 18
Tullysaran 17 6 2 9 14
St Paul's 15 5 2 8 12
Clonmore 18 6 0 12 12
Ballyhegan 15 5 0 10 10
Crossmaglen II 15 3 1 11 7
Middletown 11 3 0 8 6
Clady 15 1 2 12 4

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Belleek 14 12 0 2 24
Grange 15 10 1 3 23
Shane O'Neill's 13 9 2 2 20
Derrynoose 14 8 2 4 18
Eire Og 15 9 0 6 18
Mullaghbrack 15 8 1 6 17
Forkhill 16 8 1 7 17
Dorsey Emmett's 16 7 2 7 16
O'Hanlon's 16 4 2 10 10
Corrinshego 17 2 1 14 5
Phelim Brady's 17 0 0 17 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 10, 2007, 08:37:06 PM
Quote from: SimpleSimon on September 10, 2007, 07:15:08 PM
Any word on the hurling championship matches lads. Just heard that middletown won there match and it cut up a but rough at times and that keady won their game pretty handy but no more real detail than that. Any reports?

Is the final date set, what will the venue be?

Well in c'ship things are on a knife edge and sometimes get out of hand so I don't think it was a great surprise to see a few skirmishes between the Chuculainns and Middletown. We were beat by a goal (think it was 1-15 to 0-15) last night though we battled hard for every ball for the full hour we just didn't get that bit of luck that you need sometimes to carry you over the finish line. All the best to Middletown in the final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cross4capital on September 10, 2007, 11:26:40 PM
Very good argument crossfire! well put together. The basic fatc is, cruppen had no business being in a championship game with us, they are an average intermediate side, i mean what about paul keenan? how that man is on the county while star footballers like micky macnamee and tony kernan and johnny murtagh are kept out? they should have thrown on his fat brother sure.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 11, 2007, 08:30:59 AM
I shouldn't  BUT...

'Cruppen won the intermediate in 2004...& deserve their place in the top echelon of Armagh football.

Personal insults aren't wanted on this board. FECK OFF!  :-*

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 11, 2007, 08:39:26 AM
Quote from: cross4capital on September 10, 2007, 11:26:40 PM
Very good argument crossfire! well put together. The basic fatc is, cruppen had no business being in a championship game with us, they are an average intermediate side, i mean what about paul keenan? how that man is on the county while star footballers like micky macnamee and tony kernan and johnny murtagh are kept out? they should have thrown on his fat brother sure.

It's great to see new posters coming on here and making an instant impression. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 11, 2007, 11:28:03 AM
Cross 4 capital

GO TO BED CHILD
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 11, 2007, 12:09:44 PM
Quote from: cross4capital on September 10, 2007, 11:26:40 PM
Very good argument crossfire! well put together. The basic fatc is, cruppen had no business being in a championship game with us, they are an average intermediate side, i mean what about paul keenan? how that man is on the county while star footballers like micky macnamee and tony kernan and johnny murtagh are kept out? they should have thrown on his fat brother sure.

Hold on a minute, cruppin did well on sunday, cross didn't know what to do in the first 10 minutes they were very unsettled, but when cross settled you could clearly see they didn't even have to get out of second gear but at the minute in the county that is what happens teams that play them, cross never usually win by such a large margin but in this case the scoreline may have looked good but cruppin actually did themselves justice on sunday, they may be back next year.
As for c4c account on cross players who should make the county panel, DO YOU GO TO THE CROSS GAMES CUS IF YOU DID YOU WOULD SEE TONY K IS STRUGGELING TO KEEP HIS PLACE ON CROSS TEAM AND MAY LOSE OUT SOON ENOUGH NEVER MIND BRINGING HIM ONTO THE COUNTY PANEL, yes i agree John M is there and there abouts but so are so many footballers of his type across the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 11, 2007, 01:37:48 PM
QuoteDO YOU GO TO THE CROSS GAMES CUS IF YOU DID YOU WOULD SEE TONY K IS STRUGGELING TO KEEP HIS PLACE ON CROSS TEAM AND MAY LOSE OUT SOON ENOUGH NEVER MIND BRINGING HIM ONTO THE COUNTY PANEL,
Sure that doesn't seem to make a difference - well, it might now.


btw fullback, I'm still waiting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 11, 2007, 01:41:07 PM
i would hardly think so pint...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 11, 2007, 01:50:29 PM
FAO pog
Parking is poor, takes f**king forever to get on the road home.
There is no bank (to speak of) on the side opposite the stand, so when people stand against the fence it is virtually impossible to see all of the field.
Am not going to mention, selling tickets at the gate, then not even calling out the winning one (or if they did I didnt hear it - as per Cross v Drom games. Before you start I know its only a £1 but it is the principle)
Finally, letting cars into the field, then they start to leave before the game is over & drive out through the crowd ::)
This is all IMHO, before you get on your high horse for pointing out fault's with the 'Bridge
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 11, 2007, 02:11:57 PM
Where will the county final be held this year????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 11, 2007, 02:19:56 PM
Quote from: full back on September 11, 2007, 01:50:29 PM
FAO pog
Parking is poor, takes f**king forever to get on the road home.
There is no bank (to speak of) on the side opposite the stand, so when people stand against the fence it is virtually impossible to see all of the field.
Am not going to mention, selling tickets at the gate, then not even calling out the winning one (or if they did I didnt hear it - as per Cross v Drom games. Before you start I know its only a £1 but it is the principle)
Finally, letting cars into the field, then they start to leave before the game is over & drive out through the crowd ::)
This is all IMHO, before you get on your high horse for pointing out fault's with the 'Bridge

i was at all games in the bridge on sunday from their club game , cullyhanna game and then cross one, the cars parked on the hill was all cullyhanna supporters that came early to get parked up there for their own game and then it was them that had not the manners to wait until the game was over, i know i would not have started to drive through the croud and neither would pog im sure, unless the bridge went up to the hill with recovery trucks i dont think they could have moved those cars (the relationship between the clubs not that great anyhow, and was it not county officals that was doing the gate who should be stopping this) and for the half time draw, i did hear the number being called out and who the winner was was also called out but yes it is difficult to hear at most big games in cross it is hard to hear the half time draw also.

anyone know when the final is on and where
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 11, 2007, 03:11:42 PM
County final on Sept 30th

Venue: I pressume Cross

I'm sure the Ogs will protest (and right they are), but I couldnt see  the county board moving on this one. ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 11, 2007, 03:12:23 PM
Is it not down for sunday 30th?  I would assume it's supposed to be in Cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on September 11, 2007, 03:18:51 PM
Other than the Ogs faithful, does any neutrals among us see the Ogs overturning the AI champs.

I thought they might challange earlier in the year but after watching them against the Harps I would find it suprising if they did.

I took a bit of stick from our City rivals about being in the county final, but we were beat by cross in the 1st round, they're basically prolonging the agony IMO.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on September 11, 2007, 03:25:30 PM
Just wishing big Alan O'Neill a speedy recovery. By the way how was that game going between harp's and cullaville before it was abandoned last friday night?

Can anyone make head nor tail of this weeks club fixtures? seen them in the irish news but they are all merged in amongst the antrim fixtures. I presume the cross v mullaghbawn and pearse og v whitecross games are saturday at 6pm (it does not state a day on them)

The re-fixed game of cullaville and harps on friday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 11, 2007, 03:26:45 PM
Don't go there full back, you'll be called a liar. The fact that the rest of the county agrees with you will not save you from being called a liar every time he replies to your posts (even 3 or 4 months down the line!).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 11, 2007, 03:38:43 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on September 11, 2007, 03:18:51 PM
Other than the Ogs faithful, does any neutrals among us see the Ogs overturning the AI champs.

I thought they might challange earlier in the year but after watching them against the Harps I would find it suprising if they did.

I took a bit of stick from our City rivals about being in the county final, but we were beat by cross in the 1st round, they're basically prolonging the agony IMO.



Without a doth cross are the best , bus yes i think your right there time is running out, the new players comming in are good but no where near as good as the players of the past 10 years, any team could surprise cross epically a team they dint know too much about, as i stated earlier cross never beat teams by lots its always a close game, the drominte first game was an example, but i still think cross may have another one or two county titles in great which is some record.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 11, 2007, 04:37:21 PM
The fixture date and location of match will be fixed tonight at a county  board meeting

Ogs are looking the match to be played at a neutral venue ie, Keady and Davitt park which are both classed as county grounds

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 11, 2007, 04:43:35 PM
I could be wrong, and am open to correction but there are certain Health and Safety standards and also venue issues eg turnstiles, which are required for a county final. 

If there is a neutral ground with these in place then by all means play the game there. 

If not, there will be no option but to play it in Cross.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 11, 2007, 04:48:45 PM
I think Keady held an intercounty hurling semi final recently and that would suggest that its available on h&s grounds

I dont think Cross would object as the 1986 final between both clubs was changed from the athletci grounds to keady
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 11, 2007, 04:50:17 PM
Hard luck in the hurling sunday Spirit, got to it eventually after heading to Keady first :-\ Thought it was a cracking(tough) game, your opposite number kept Cuchulianns at bay with a few great goalbound saves.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 11, 2007, 04:56:39 PM
i really couldnt see anything other than a cross win spirit, i wudnt think there wud be too much in it tho.  A few points in it maybe, with the ogs having a goal ruled out, a penalty not given or some other atrocity that will leave the ogs faithfull with that havin been robbed feeling!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on September 11, 2007, 05:15:56 PM
If its in keady, I think the ogs could just about take them. The harps could have but for some poor early shooting!

Though I know that cross also like playing in Keady, but its not the fortress that is crossmaglen!

Spirit what was the opinion/feeling among your squad after Sundays game? Been talking to a few who feel it was there for you's. Middletown played a dangerous game not starting a few of their big names.

Who do you fancy for the final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on September 11, 2007, 05:22:33 PM
I don't know much about Keady but are there two pitches in the town?  The one we played at on Sunday definitely couldn't hold the county final but I always thought there was one on through the ground.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 11, 2007, 05:52:20 PM
Ok Fullback, lets take one at a time

QuoteParking is poor, takes f**king forever to get on the road home.
Are you taking the piss? I would say it's the easiest club to park at!  Do you get it easier to park in cross, armagh, camlough? 

QuoteAm not going to mention, selling tickets at the gate, then not even calling out the winning one (or if they did I didnt hear it - as per Cross v Drom games. Before you start I know its only a £1 but it is the principle)
Well that's funny as you've just mentioned it. ::) I'm sure you can read dontcare's post and in future you should clean your ears out, wouldn't want you think we stole a quid of you!

Quote
Finally, letting cars into the field, then they start to leave before the game is over & drive out through the crowd ::)
You must have missed inthemaking's post when he explained that.  What would you have us do?  24 hour vigil at the gate?  Recovery trucks ready? What do you want us to do?  Why not blame the ignorant f**kers who'd come to a game a hour early just so they wouldn't have to pay in?

QuoteThere is no bank (to speak of) on the side opposite the stand, so when people stand against the fence it is virtually impossible to see all of the field.
That's the only real criticism you have, someone stood in your way and you couldn't see all the field  ::)

Hardly makes us one of the worst venues in the county does it?
I find it interesting that people can walk in past all the bridge have built and improved and still find something to complain about but I suppose that will always be the way.

oh btw fullback, you're great craic, criticise a club's ground but you've never told us your own club.

Mackers
QuoteDon't go there full back, you'll be called a liar. The fact that the rest of the county agrees with you will not save you from being called a liar every time he replies to your posts (even 3 or 4 months down the line!).
Mackers, when you tell lies expect to be called a liar and 3 or 4 years down the line you'll still be a liar! 
The rest of the county didn't and doesn't agree with you, don't be telling more lies. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ard mhaca abu on September 11, 2007, 06:18:12 PM
fao cross4capital

QuoteVery good argument crossfire! well put together. The basic fatc is, cruppen had no business being in a championship game with us, they are an average intermediate side, i mean what about paul keenan? how that man is on the county while star footballers like micky macnamee and tony kernan and johnny murtagh are kept out? they should have thrown on his fat brother sure.

im sean keenan..paul's fat brother...if u are so jealous of the fact that paul is a county player paul tell him rather than be a coward and hide behind the name cross4capital....

ur makin a pure dick outta urself nd bc1 nd crossfire have already suggested u to shut up nd stop bein a child..ur an insult to ur club..if ur such a big man name urself like i have done...

cruppen do revolve round more than 1 player as seen on sunday..nd are a big club...with more than my brother and i to insult....u w**ker
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 11, 2007, 08:32:39 PM
sorry to spoil your rant full back ,but regarding cars at silverbridge pitch the county board control the gate. they decide who gains entry.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ExiledGael on September 11, 2007, 08:36:09 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on September 11, 2007, 06:18:12 PM
fao cross4capital

QuoteVery good argument crossfire! well put together. The basic fatc is, cruppen had no business being in a championship game with us, they are an average intermediate side, i mean what about paul keenan? how that man is on the county while star footballers like micky macnamee and tony kernan and johnny murtagh are kept out? they should have thrown on his fat brother sure.

im sean keenan..paul's fat brother...if u are so jealous of the fact that paul is a county player paul tell him rather than be a coward and hide behind the name cross4capital....

ur makin a pure dick outta urself nd bc1 nd crossfire have already suggested u to shut up nd stop bein a child..ur an insult to ur club..if ur such a big man name urself like i have done...

cruppen do revolve round more than 1 player as seen on sunday..nd are a big club...with more than my brother and i to insult....u w**ker

Well said, and a lesson for a lot of assholes here
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: psg30 on September 11, 2007, 09:42:22 PM
it was an annaghmore umpire not a clonmore umpire!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: aidanmcg33 on September 11, 2007, 11:08:16 PM
Well said Sean.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 12, 2007, 12:23:59 AM
fair play to ye Sean


(Im looking forward to his response)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 12, 2007, 08:17:29 AM
I'm sure the response will be something pathetic anyway, none of his posts so far have been any different
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 12, 2007, 09:29:36 AM
fair plau to you Sean, but from what I`ve seen you have lost a brave lot of weight  ::)
good luck  tonite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 12, 2007, 09:35:29 AM
There's rules you don't brake and things you don't say (even if you want to sometimes) but naming players and then taking the middle out of them is unacceptable. a guy is going out representing his club and family, giving his all and some dick who has prob never kicked a ball giving him a slating.
everyone on the board knows he (or even she) is out of order so an apology is needed. I myself have said things on the board that i shouldn't have said but i have taken them back when i realised what i wrote, so do the decent thing....


P.S Pints, don't worry about the Bridge's ground it's dead on but i'm sure K Brady will put millions into Davitt Park to be the new county ground ;) :D The M1 beside it and the train station around the corner!! what more do you want
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 12, 2007, 10:40:29 AM
See what did I tell you fullback? When you disagree with him he will try and bully you with a tirade of abusive language. It's quite simple in pints' world, anybody that disagrees with him is a liar and anybody with a sense of humour is a knob. I bet they queue up to have a pint with him in Donnelly's or Garvey's of a Saturday night!
I'm not going to go over old ground but I'd be surprised if you had your wits about you in Crossmaglen during those disgraceful scenes, you can't even hold a reasoned debate on an internet forum without being aggressive and abusive.
I could call you a knob or a liar but I wouldn't stoop to your level.
P.S. Fullback is right, you can see f all from the bank that he's talking about, but I think the view from behind the top goals is in the nicest in the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 12, 2007, 10:45:52 AM
Quote from: mackers on September 12, 2007, 10:40:29 AM
See what did I tell you fullback? When you disagree with him he will try and bully you with a tirade of abusive language. It's quite simple in pints' world, anybody that disagrees with him is a liar and anybody with a sense of humour is a knob. I bet they queue up to have a pint with him in Donnelly's or Garvey's of a Saturday night!
I'm not going to go over old ground but I'd be surprised if you had your wits about you in Crossmaglen during those disgraceful scenes, you can't even hold a reasoned debate on an internet forum without being aggressive and abusive.
I could call you a knob or a liar but I wouldn't stoop to your level.
P.S. Fullback is right, you can see f all from the bank that he's talking about, but I think the view from behind the top goals is in the nicest in the county.


Well said!! that pints man is a clown, u can ask a few simple questions and all you get back is abuse from a grumpy old man!! did u find yourself a lady friend yet pints to take out your frustration??  :D :D god help them if you did!!

I'l call him a knob 4 ya mackers!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on September 12, 2007, 11:12:33 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 11, 2007, 04:50:17 PM
Hard luck in the hurling sunday Spirit, got to it eventually after heading to Keady first :-\ Thought it was a cracking(tough) game, your opposite number kept Cuchulianns at bay with a few great goalbound saves.



Cheers benny thought we could have took it, their keeper won the game, I didnt have one shot to save, but their goal was a bit of class from Carville. But our average age is 20 so we will get there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 12, 2007, 11:24:34 AM
i see the B cship final is on 2night. Cruppen V Bridge.  Whats your prediction 4 this pints??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 12, 2007, 01:04:11 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 12, 2007, 11:24:34 AM
i see the B cship final is on 2night. Cruppen V Bridge.  Whats your prediction 4 this pints??

Whats that in? cause if i'm not mistaken did Maghery not beat St Pats in the final of the B's 2 weeks ago
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 12, 2007, 01:07:14 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 12, 2007, 01:04:11 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 12, 2007, 11:24:34 AM
i see the B cship final is on 2night. Cruppen V Bridge.  Whats your prediction 4 this pints??

Whats that in? cause if i'm not mistaken did Maghery not beat St Pats in the final of the B's 2 weeks ago

B league final, think it is. its in irish news for 7.30 throw in in nab.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 01:24:57 PM
Liar Liar pants on fire
QuoteSee what did I tell you fullback? When you disagree with him he will try and bully you with a tirade of abusive language. It's quite simple in pints' world, anybody that disagrees with him is a liar and anybody with a sense of humour is a knob.
Show me where i've given fullback a "tirade of abusive language".  I didn't realise he was so soft, the poor wee pet, at least he has you holding his hand.

Quote
I bet they queue up to have a pint with him in Donnelly's or Garvey's of a Saturday night!
Oooohhh that hurts  :D  :D  :D

Quote
I'm not going to go over old ground but I'd be surprised if you had your wits about you in Crossmaglen during those disgraceful scenes, you can't even hold a reasoned debate on an internet forum without being aggressive and abusive.
What does that mean or what are you suggesting?

downtown
QuoteWell said!! that pints man is a clown, u can ask a few simple questions and all you get back is abuse from a grumpy old man!! did u find yourself a lady friend yet pints to take out your frustration?? god help them if you did!!

I'l call him a knob 4 ya mackers!!

Oooh that hurts too  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 12, 2007, 01:29:20 PM
Jasus Pints your taking some abuse these days, are you as grumpy as they say??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 01:36:22 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 12, 2007, 01:29:20 PM
Jasus Pints your taking some abuse these days, are you as grumpy as they say??

I think on here, I'm misunderstood. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on September 12, 2007, 01:53:50 PM
To be fair to fullback i can see where he is coming from in relation to the fault's with silverbridge as a venue. Recently attended the Drominitee v Cross games and had to park a fair distance from the pitch, on the road leading back to Cross in fact and quite far up it.

Was meeting up with a few one's who were at the side opposite the stand close to the halfway line. With the lack of a bank / height i also struggled to see the action sometimes due to people standing in front of me, and when the ball went into the corner near the club house it was virtually impossible to see.  :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 01:57:54 PM
what ground in the county, or anywhere, can everyone park at the gate?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on September 12, 2007, 02:00:33 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 01:57:54 PM
what ground in the county, or anywhere, can everyone park at the gate?

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on September 12, 2007, 02:08:23 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 01:57:54 PM
what ground in the county, or anywhere, can everyone park at the gate?

It would need to be a right size of a gate if there was one. Would not be too keen if EVERYONE were to park at the gate, would lead to endless congestion on trying to exit the venue.

I notice how you did not pick up on my qualm about the bank issue and not being able to get a good view due to people obstructing your view as everyone is on the same height level. This mean you agree that this is a problem?  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 12, 2007, 02:32:08 PM
It's hardly Pints' problem!

Speak to the county board...tell them not to let Silverbridge host any more games!  :P

Do yas really care what Pints admits too???  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 12, 2007, 02:36:06 PM
you are gettin some abuse 2day pints, aint ya ya muppet!!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 12, 2007, 02:59:49 PM
Quote from: Kentucky Blue on September 12, 2007, 02:08:23 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 01:57:54 PM
what ground in the county, or anywhere, can everyone park at the gate?

It would need to be a right size of a gate if there was one. Would not be too keen if EVERYONE were to park at the gate, would lead to endless congestion on trying to exit the venue.

I notice how you did not pick up on my qualm about the bank issue and not being able to get a good view due to people obstructing your view as everyone is on the same height level. This mean you agree that this is a problem?  ???

you still haven't names a pitch in armagh with good parking facilities
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 07:00:44 PM
Quote from: Kentucky Blue on September 12, 2007, 02:08:23 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 01:57:54 PM
what ground in the county, or anywhere, can everyone park at the gate?

It would need to be a right size of a gate if there was one. Would not be too keen if EVERYONE were to park at the gate, would lead to endless congestion on trying to exit the venue.

I notice how you did not pick up on my qualm about the bank issue and not being able to get a good view due to people obstructing your view as everyone is on the same height level. This mean you agree that this is a problem?  ???
I accept the lack of any real bank at that end is a fair criticism (though some corner of the field is obstructed from view no matter where you stand in most fields - if the place is full) but I hardly think it's reason for fullback to describe the bridge as one of the worse venues for a big game.  I suggest you go to the stand or the top bank if you've trouble seeing.  I'd hardly say the lack of a bank is a problem either, it's grand for our own games and the new fields will be opened next month. 
Back to the parking, I hadn't really time to answer you earlier, but name the grounds in armagh that have better parking?  Do you think Cross, Cruppen, Abbey park (all hold big games) have better parking?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on September 12, 2007, 09:12:31 PM
Theres only 3 or 4 cpitchs that shoud be having big games and there Cross, Mullaghbawn, kileavey, newtown Carrickcruppin and when they get the athletic grounds sorted out they can do it to./
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on September 12, 2007, 09:13:08 PM
ok the Bridge to.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 09:42:14 PM
The bridge and Cruppen drew in the B final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 12, 2007, 10:20:13 PM
Davitt park has excellent parking facilities, these include St Paul's church and St Paul's school which is right beside the pitch and clubhouse. It also has Francis street and the surrounding housing estate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on September 12, 2007, 10:28:50 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 09:42:14 PM
The bridge and Cruppen drew in the B final

were ya at the game pints? prob one of the worst iv seen in a while finising 0-6 apiece
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 10:30:26 PM
Quote from: inthemaking on September 12, 2007, 10:28:50 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 09:42:14 PM
The bridge and Cruppen drew in the B final

were ya at the game pints? prob one of the worst iv seen in a while finising 0-6 apiece
No I'm couple of hundred mile from home  :(
Will be win the replay?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on September 12, 2007, 10:39:37 PM
we would need to improve our performance as cruppen had a man sent off very early for an elbow and before that their fitness and sharpness was far superior. alot of our players were below par so hopefully we can improve the next day
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 12, 2007, 11:03:52 PM
inthemaking you refused to mention the performance of the referee tonight who scored 5 of the bridges 6 points from free-kicks!

both teams kicked alot of wides, thought the referee was terrible for us, couldn't have bought a free at all!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on September 12, 2007, 11:15:14 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on September 12, 2007, 11:03:52 PM
inthemaking you refused to mention the performance of the referee tonight who scored 5 of the bridges 6 points from free-kicks!

both teams kicked alot of wides, thought the referee was terrible for us, couldn't have bought a free at all!



the ref was terrible and will admit that I even laughed at some of the decisions he gave us but since it is impossible to get a good consistent ref in the county there was no point in bringing it up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 12, 2007, 11:26:00 PM
Lads, Parking will never decide which ground will hold a big match.. Look at Clones ??? ???

for the Armagh championship (location dictates what venue gets the game). You think the Harps run to the county board requesting more games played at their ground. (Dont think so)

As long as a ground can accommodate a decent crowd, has a relatively level playing surface & changing facilities it should accomodate championship games. You blame the clubs (ie the Bridge) for the standard of their ground, its not the clubs fault the county board land a big game at any clubs pitch.

was at the dromintee V Cross game at the bridge and the training facilities in place are Excellent. Pints you should have made on of the training pitches the main one.. they look the part.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 12, 2007, 11:30:03 PM
DIVISION 1 re-fixture

Harps beat Cullaville tonight under the lights in abbey Pk by 2 points. wasnt a bad game, Joe Quigley played rightly. That should be Harps well safe now. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 11:32:14 PM
Quotewas at the dromintee V Cross game at the bridge and the training facilities in place are Excellent. Pints you should have made on of the training pitches the main one.. they look the part.
They will be the main ones.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 12, 2007, 11:34:36 PM
I thought that, just wanted it clarified.

will be great surface to play on when opened.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 12, 2007, 11:37:14 PM
Quote from: Armagh4SamAgain on September 12, 2007, 09:12:31 PM
Theres only 3 or 4 cpitchs that shoud be having big games and there Cross, Mullaghbawn, kileavey, newtown Carrickcruppin and when they get the athletic grounds sorted out they can do it to./


so as it stands there must be no football pitches outside South Armagh. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 13, 2007, 08:17:41 AM

Killeavy?

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on September 13, 2007, 08:52:47 AM
Quote from: Uladh on September 13, 2007, 08:17:41 AM

Killeavy?

:D

There new pitch is very good
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on September 13, 2007, 09:19:24 AM
It was said to me lastnite that both teams have agreed on Keady as the venue for the county final. It may not have the best parking or viewing facilities but both are happy to play there. Apparantly turnstiles can be provided if necessary. It will be interesting to see if this actually happens.

On the Bridge, I like it as a pitch for both playing and watching matches. From a playing point of view, yes there's an incline on the pitches but there's 2 half to a game so you benefit for 30min. When watching I never go near the stand but head for the top goals and have a great view.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 13, 2007, 09:46:47 AM
Newtown is too small,

and the fence is too close to the actually pitch

it is bordering on dangerous as a carrickcruppen player found out a few years ago
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 13, 2007, 10:03:13 AM
QuoteIt was said to me lastnite that both teams have agreed on Keady as the venue for the county final. It may not have the best parking or viewing facilities but both are happy to play there. Apparantly turnstiles can be provided if necessary. It will be interesting to see if this actually happens.

Great news altogether.
Excellent spectator facilities including Ladies & Gents toilets, first-class covered stand and great viewing facilities.
Plenty of parking spaces, etc.
Really looking forward to Sunday 30 September.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 13, 2007, 10:08:36 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 07:00:44 PM
I accept the lack of any real bank at that end is a fair criticism (though some corner of the field is obstructed from view no matter where you stand in most fields - if the place is full) but I hardly think it's reason for fullback to describe the bridge as one of the worse venues for a big game. 

Toilets, Changing rooms???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 13, 2007, 10:30:05 AM
Covered stands????? I must have been at the wrong pitch. Or has this been a late edition. I still haven't heard any comments on Davitt but i guess it has already been decided according to reports.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 13, 2007, 11:07:57 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 13, 2007, 10:30:05 AM
Covered stands????? I must have been at the wrong pitch. Or has this been a late edition. I still haven't heard any comments on Davitt but i guess it has already been decided according to reports.

It's in the wrong part of the county son. There's not a man on this board that could honestly put their hand up and say that if Davitt Park was another 30 mile south it would be the no 1 ground in the county, the reason it's neglected is it's in Lurgan. The train station is 1/2 mile away the motorway is 1 mile away there is 2 schools for car parking and a massive industrial estate for parking 500meters away, if the money spent on the Pathetic Gorunds had went into Davitt we would have some spot.

The pitch is level and flat (just needs a bit of tufting ;)) and a big pitch at that, the ground is there around it for developing.
What more can i say..... :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 13, 2007, 11:23:44 AM
Correct ill decide

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 13, 2007, 12:14:19 PM
I think Keady has very poor banking also. To be fair Crossmaglen has the best facilities in the county and is the only ground fit to hold a county final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 13, 2007, 12:26:16 PM
As well as Cross, I would say the Clans have a good enough set-up to hold a county final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 13, 2007, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: full back on September 13, 2007, 10:08:36 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 07:00:44 PM
I accept the lack of any real bank at that end is a fair criticism (though some corner of the field is obstructed from view no matter where you stand in most fields - if the place is full) but I hardly think it's reason for fullback to describe the bridge as one of the worse venues for a big game.

Toilets, Changing rooms???
Yes we've both.

I think armaghexile has keady mixed up with somewhere else.

Mackers, I'm still waiting on your answers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 13, 2007, 01:29:56 PM
Do you think your changing rooms are good enough pog?
Are there enough toilets?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on September 13, 2007, 01:37:32 PM
Quote from: full back on September 13, 2007, 01:29:56 PM
Do you think your changing rooms are good enough pog?
Are there enough toilets?

our changing rooms were not adequate which is why we are in the process of upgrading and making them bigger. the official opening is in 3 weeks time and will be ready for next season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 13, 2007, 01:39:55 PM
Where are you putting them inthemaking?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 13, 2007, 01:41:14 PM
Quote from: inthemaking on September 13, 2007, 01:37:32 PM
Quote from: full back on September 13, 2007, 01:29:56 PM
Do you think your changing rooms are good enough pog?
Are there enough toilets?

our changing rooms were not adequate which is why we are in the process of upgrading and making them bigger. the official opening is in 3 weeks time and will be ready for next season

And we can only hope they meet fullback's high standards and no doubt him and others will be wishing us luck with it all.
(some chance)

How many toilets do you want fullback?   ::)


Long way from proving we're the worst venue in the county for a big game. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 13, 2007, 01:44:54 PM
Sarcastic bollix as usual pog.
If its not the Kernans, its C Conlon. If its not him its A4SA, if its not him its crying about getting championship games.
::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 13, 2007, 01:47:42 PM
When did I cry about not getting championship games?
I made a point one day that they should be spread out more and you took it to mean I wanted them in the bridge.

It's not my fault you can't read.
Is all this because I won't laugh at your wee friend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on September 13, 2007, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 07:00:44 PM
Quote from: Kentucky Blue on September 12, 2007, 02:08:23 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 01:57:54 PM
what ground in the county, or anywhere, can everyone park at the gate?

It would need to be a right size of a gate if there was one. Would not be too keen if EVERYONE were to park at the gate, would lead to endless congestion on trying to exit the venue.

I notice how you did not pick up on my qualm about the bank issue and not being able to get a good view due to people obstructing your view as everyone is on the same height level. This mean you agree that this is a problem?  ???
I accept the lack of any real bank at that end is a fair criticism (though some corner of the field is obstructed from view no matter where you stand in most fields - if the place is full) but I hardly think it's reason for fullback to describe the bridge as one of the worse venues for a big game.  I suggest you go to the stand or the top bank if you've trouble seeing.  I'd hardly say the lack of a bank is a problem either, it's grand for our own games and the new fields will be opened next month. 
Back to the parking, I hadn't really time to answer you earlier, but name the grounds in armagh that have better parking?  Do you think Cross, Cruppen, Abbey park (all hold big games) have better parking?

Back to parking it is then.....
All in all i think cross is the best venue overall and IMO it has a better parking set up than the bridge.

Davitt Park hasn't got a bad set up in this respect either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 13, 2007, 02:01:52 PM
Who is my wee friend?
Quite selective in your last reply as well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 13, 2007, 02:11:29 PM
I still haven't got an answer as to why the county final cannot be held at Davitt. I am also outraged by the fact that the final is going to be played at a neutral venue this year. My own club had to play Cross last year in Cross so what has changed between then and now?? Could it be that Pearse Ogs can lobby better than our representatives ?? or could it be the new chairman on board.???? This one has me baffled.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 13, 2007, 02:28:34 PM
Pints, i joined the discussion board to discuss the sport that I love, not to get involved in a slanging match with an arrogant bully like yourself.  However, you asked me to show you where you have given fullback a tirade oif abuse, all I have to do is to refer to your last few responses. Do you think that it is normal to call a fellow gael a "poor wee pet" and for him "to clean out his ears".
We fell out over the match last summer two to three months back and on the Springsteen thread I tried to have a laugh about it but you threw my comments back and started the name calling again. You treat all people who disagree with you in a similar manner.
You have asked me what did I mean by stating that you didn't have your wits about you in Crossmaglen.  It's easy, you can't control your temper on an internet forum, I just can't see you keeping control of yourself when the whole thing kicked off that day, and you will have missed things that a NEUTRAL who couldn't give a toss about either team would have seen.
As far as I'm concerned that's the end of the matter and I suppose in your world you'll think you've "won" but I'd rather get back to discussing football (the object of the thread) and I'd say the other posters don't want to read another two or three pages of you and I arguing.
P.S. I NEVER lied!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 13, 2007, 03:02:40 PM
winsamsoon,i can understand your anger if the county final is being switched but if it happens next year then the ogs will be disappointed and so on and so on.it is a disgrace even though it is the best equipped ground in the county at the min that cross get to play the final on their own patch.it is difficult enough for them to be defeated never mind going up to their place,as this will often play in opponents minds
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 13, 2007, 03:22:08 PM
But it would be all the sweeter to dethrone the champions in their own backyard so to speak
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 13, 2007, 03:26:49 PM

On the other hand, the task is large and every minor addition to the cause should be utilised
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 13, 2007, 06:06:24 PM
Quote from: Kentucky Blue on September 13, 2007, 01:56:30 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 07:00:44 PM
Quote from: Kentucky Blue on September 12, 2007, 02:08:23 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 12, 2007, 01:57:54 PM
what ground in the county, or anywhere, can everyone park at the gate?

It would need to be a right size of a gate if there was one. Would not be too keen if EVERYONE were to park at the gate, would lead to endless congestion on trying to exit the venue.

I notice how you did not pick up on my qualm about the bank issue and not being able to get a good view due to people obstructing your view as everyone is on the same height level. This mean you agree that this is a problem?  ???
I accept the lack of any real bank at that end is a fair criticism (though some corner of the field is obstructed from view no matter where you stand in most fields - if the place is full) but I hardly think it's reason for fullback to describe the bridge as one of the worse venues for a big game.  I suggest you go to the stand or the top bank if you've trouble seeing.  I'd hardly say the lack of a bank is a problem either, it's grand for our own games and the new fields will be opened next month. 
Back to the parking, I hadn't really time to answer you earlier, but name the grounds in armagh that have better parking?  Do you think Cross, Cruppen, Abbey park (all hold big games) have better parking?

Back to parking it is then.....
All in all i think cross is the best venue overall and IMO it has a better parking set up than the bridge.

Davitt Park hasn't got a bad set up in this respect either.
KB, I wasn't saying the bridge had the best set up for a big game, I just objected to full back's comment that we were one of the worst.

Full Back
QuoteWho is my wee friend?
Quite selective in your last reply as well
Want do you want me to say to you fullback?  I should sit and argue with you that not all of my posts are about the Kernans, Armagh4sam, Ciaran Conlon and about matches not being played in the bridge?   ::)

Mackers
QuotePints, i joined the discussion board to discuss the sport that I love, not to get involved in a slanging match with an arrogant bully like yourself.  However, you asked me to show you where you have given fullback a tirade oif abuse, all I have to do is to refer to your last few responses. Do you think that it is normal to call a fellow gael a "poor wee pet" and for him "to clean out his ears".
We fell out over the match last summer two to three months back and on the Springsteen thread I tried to have a laugh about it but you threw my comments back and started the name calling again. You treat all people who disagree with you in a similar manner.
You have asked me what did I mean by stating that you didn't have your wits about you in Crossmaglen.  It's easy, you can't control your temper on an internet forum, I just can't see you keeping control of yourself when the whole thing kicked off that day, and you will have missed things that a NEUTRAL who couldn't give a toss about either team would have seen.
As far as I'm concerned that's the end of the matter and I suppose in your world you'll think you've "won" but I'd rather get back to discussing football (the object of the thread) and I'd say the other posters don't want to read another two or three pages of you and I arguing.
P.S. I NEVER lied!!!!
Is it normal to call a "fellow gael" an "arrogant bully"?
How about "Sarcastic bollix" or "knob" or "muppet" etc etc Don't give me crap about "fellow gaels" please. 
btw it's news to me that "poor wee pet" and "clean out your ears" amounts to a tirade of abuse.

You came on here three or four months ago and you told lies about the cullyhanna game.  I'm sory if you find me abusive, arrogant or a bully when I say that but I really don't know what other way I can say it.  You lied about men in suits fighting on the field.  On a day when both sets of supporters should have been praised (with our team and panel) for their cool heads there is always one who has to make things worse, always one who trys and shifts the blame.  These are my last comments on your allegations, people can believe me or you I don't really care but you and I know you lied. 

As for your comments regarding me and my temper as you put it, well it's astounding.  How can you make those comments about me, you've never met me and you've no idea what I'm like. (I want you to answer that question)
I never lost my temper in my life, well maybe once or twice when my mammy wouldn't buy me the sweets I wanted.
Also, being in the stand in Cross that day when it all kicked off my only feelings were fear (for the lives, yes the lives, of some of our lads) and absolute pride.  Anger only came weeks late when it was quite clear they were going to get away with it.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 13, 2007, 07:06:33 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 13, 2007, 02:11:29 PM
I still haven't got an answer as to why the county final cannot be held at Davitt. I am also outraged by the fact that the final is going to be played at a neutral venue this year. My own club had to play Cross last year in Cross so what has changed between then and now?? Could it be that Pearse Ogs can lobby better than our representatives ?? or could it be the new chairman on board.???? This one has me baffled.

I think clanns have every right to be annoyed.  They told everyone last year that no other pitch met the health and safety standards (I would love to know what these are) but now suddenly Keady can hold it???????  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cross4capital on September 13, 2007, 07:23:37 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on September 11, 2007, 06:18:12 PM
fao cross4capital

QuoteVery good argument crossfire! well put together. The basic fatc is, cruppen had no business being in a championship game with us, they are an average intermediate side, i mean what about paul keenan? how that man is on the county while star footballers like micky macnamee and tony kernan and johnny murtagh are kept out? they should have thrown on his fat brother sure.

im sean keenan..paul's fat brother...if u are so jealous of the fact that paul is a county player paul tell him rather than be a coward and hide behind the name cross4capital....

ur makin a pure dick outta urself nd bc1 nd crossfire have already suggested u to shut up nd stop bein a child..ur an insult to ur club..if ur such a big man name urself like i have done...

cruppen do revolve round more than 1 player as seen on sunday..nd are a big club...with more than my brother and i to insult....u w**ker

Yeah Cruppen are such a good club, its a credit to you camlough folk that you find time to train after spending your days drinking buckfast and breaking into cars! you call me a coward? we didn't shit ourselves last sunday! Cruppen will never be near us again, you don't have the youth setup, your just a crowd of camlough scumbags.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on September 13, 2007, 07:28:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 13, 2007, 07:26:32 PM
::)
You are a wee dick.

do u know him? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 13, 2007, 07:28:22 PM
Yeah pints that is another one of many reasons why i am annoyed that and the fact that losing last year still hurts like f**k  >:( :D. Lads you can't take anything personal on this board. Sure there are better ways to speak to each other without spouting abuse ( i ain't accussing anyone) but at the end of the day we could sit in a bar and come out with the same stuff and no one would be offended. We all have diferent accounts of games and the goings on. I could be at the same game and because of my bias and what i choose to see could come away with a different story than a guy standing beside me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on September 13, 2007, 07:32:39 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 13, 2007, 07:28:22 PM
Yeah pints that is another one of many reasons why i am annoyed that and the fact that losing last year still hurts like f**k  >:( :D. Lads you can't take anything personal on this board. Sure there are better ways to speak to each other without spouting abuse ( i ain't accussing anyone) but at the end of the day we could sit in a bar and come out with the same stuff and no one would be offended. We all have diferent accounts of games and the goings on. I could be at the same game and because of my bias and what i choose to see could come away with a different story than a guy standing beside me.

well said winsamsoon, but there alot of wind up merchants lurking to get the arguments lit and kept lit once going!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 13, 2007, 08:50:19 PM

can the ogs afford a bionic knee at this short of notice?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on September 13, 2007, 10:00:10 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on September 13, 2007, 08:39:30 PM
Word is JP's transfer to the Ogs is through and he is officially a Pearse Ogs player. Availiable for the county final?

roll yourself back in there rolloutking.

Talk about championship standard bullshit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on September 14, 2007, 03:04:01 AM
to hold the county final in davitt park would be a big embarrassment for our county. people come from outside this county to watch this event ie down and tyrone, and for this to be the venue for our showpiece would be a let down. don't get me wrong this ground is capable of being the best in the county but is one of the most run down grounds about in the county. >:( >:( On several occasions i have turned up as the away team and been handed a set of nets to put up ourselves :o (the only ground this has ever happened to us). there isn't even a score board, its the little things that count. unfortunately cross is the only ground that has the all round facilities for this event with the only others coming close would be abbey park and the bridge only for there surfaces to let them down. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 14, 2007, 08:47:26 AM
Quote from: armaghtrue on September 14, 2007, 03:04:01 AM
to hold the county final in davitt park would be a big embarrassment for our county. people come from outside this county to watch this event ie down and tyrone, and for this to be the venue for our showpiece would be a let down. don't get me wrong this ground is capable of being the best in the county but is one of the most run down grounds about in the county. >:( >:( On several occasions i have turned up as the away team and been handed a set of nets to put up ourselves :o (the only ground this has ever happened to us). there isn't even a score board, its the little things that count. unfortunately cross is the only ground that has the all round facilities for this event with the only others coming close would be abbey park and the bridge only for there surfaces to let them down. 

For senior football you would never have been asked to put the nets up for yourself as they are up from early on Sunday morning so if this ever happened you it prob was with the B-team and yes i admitt on a few occasions with the B-team a few helpers have let us down and i personally have had to put them up when trying to pick a team, but i assure you if you are refeering to senior football your full of sh1t. So wind your neck in, as for the scoreboard issue fine we don't have one and if Crossmaglen's scoreboard ever breaks it will then be unfit for a county final ::).

The county board own Davitt Park and it is they who have neglected it, they refused to invest any money in the place and will not sell it to Clan na Gael so we can invest in the place ourselves. We paid for the ball catchers ourselves and yet again the county board would not even meet us halfways, the groung is not used by anyone from mid or south Armagh just the odd north armagh championship game so why they won't sell it to clan na Gael is beyound me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 14, 2007, 09:56:07 AM
Pints, I have no wish for us to have an ongoing battle , that's why I tried to have a laugh with you on the Springsteen thread.  it's the incessant use of "lies" and "liar" that I object to. If everybody on the board called people who had different "opinions" to them a liar the board would degenerate into constant slanging matches. Winsamsoon is absolutely correct, different people will have different opinions on games, it's what makes the discussion board.
Of course you're right I have never met you and I don't know you but after reading the majority of your 1683 posts I have a good picture built up in my head!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2007, 01:34:50 PM
QuotePints, I have no wish for us to have an ongoing battle , that's why I tried to have a laugh with you on the Springsteen thread.  it's the incessant use of "lies" and "liar" that I object to. If everybody on the board called people who had different "opinions" to them a liar the board would degenerate into constant slanging matches. Winsamsoon is absolutely correct, different people will have different opinions on games, it's what makes the discussion board.
You're not offering an opinion when you say there were men in suits fighting on the field. 
I've let go on some of the other claims you've made about that day because, as winsamsoon says, people can have different opinions. 

QuoteOf course you're right I have never met you and I don't know you but after reading the majority of your 1683 posts I have a good picture built up in my head!!!
Oh you're bound to know me then. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 14, 2007, 01:40:07 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2007, 01:34:50 PM
QuotePints, I have no wish for us to have an ongoing battle , that's why I tried to have a laugh with you on the Springsteen thread.  it's the incessant use of "lies" and "liar" that I object to. If everybody on the board called people who had different "opinions" to them a liar the board would degenerate into constant slanging matches. Winsamsoon is absolutely correct, different people will have different opinions on games, it's what makes the discussion board.
You're not offering an opinion when you say there were men in suits fighting on the field. 
I've let go on some of the other claims you've made about that day because, as winsamsoon says, people can have different opinions. 

QuoteOf course you're right I have never met you and I don't know you but after reading the majority of your 1683 posts I have a good picture built up in my head!!!
Oh you're bound to know me then. 

would the 2 of you's go away and get a room or fight or do something to resolve this shity issue. It's 1 year old now Jesus H Christ change the record b4 we all f**king get a rope >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2007, 01:45:49 PM
f**k off illdecide.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 14, 2007, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2007, 01:45:49 PM
f**k off illdecide.

Any1 else wish pints would jus f**k off and leave every1 alone?? im really gettin sick of you ya grumpy old muppet! >:( >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 14, 2007, 02:15:34 PM
So basically Armagh true you are saying that Daviit couldn't hold a championship final because A) both team would have to put the nets up and B) there is no scoreboard. How pathetic an argument is that. As has been already detailed the pitch is in a perfect location for a county final, the surface is grand and i can guarantee you if there was a county final scheduled for it there would be a scoreboard and i think we have a lot of good members who would assure the nets would be up. I heard a rumour that Keady was named the venue, can you tell me is there anything wrong with this ground??? ie no toilet rolls in the lower bathroom or do you want black men standing in the doorways with soap and towels. For christ sake it is a game of football and it would be a good spectacle for the whole of the couty to spread the final around each year. This is part of the reason why North Armagh club football is in decline because the kids never get to see the county finals or even semi finals on their own doorsteps. Davitt park and even clann Eirean park would be as good a ground as any and the petty issues would be taken care of. Lets share the game around so all the kids can and gaels can have some of the best players in Ireland playing locally.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 14, 2007, 02:22:17 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2007, 01:45:49 PM
f**k off illdecide.

See there you go again with your nice manners (and no bad temper that you never loose) all i said was to bury the issue and you tell me f**k off, I bet your a scary guy who beat women. Your making some friends these days Pints with your shite and rude talk :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 14, 2007, 02:56:07 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 14, 2007, 02:15:34 PM
This is part of the reason why North Armagh club football is in decline because the kids never get to see the county finals or even semi finals on their own doorsteps. Davitt park and even clann Eirean park would be as good a ground as any and the petty issues would be taken care of. Lets share the game around so all the kids can and gaels can have some of the best players in Ireland playing locally.

Was the Ogs Vs Maghery Championship semi final game not in Davitt Park last week?

I can't see how this causes the game to be in delcine in the North Armagh area, sure there hasn't been a county final in the town for years now! I think an interest in other sports has a greater effect
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 14, 2007, 04:10:52 PM


I can't see how this causes the game to be in delcine in the North Armagh area, sure there hasn't been a county final in the town for years now! I think an interest in other sports has a greater effect
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Ben you have just proved my point. Over these number of years that there has been no county finals what has happened to the standard of football in North Armagh??????? Of course interest in other sports and drinking cultures and many other issues are contributing factors but not having the better standard of players playing at least once a year( ie county final) means there ain't a lot of incentive for younger kids. You sa what way the county reacted when Armagh won an all Ireand. Surely if great players like Mc Conville and kernan were playing in lurgan then it would further promote gaelic games in the area and allow us to compete with these other sports that have plagued us. We have all been at under age presentations. Have a ordinary club member presenting the medals or bring up say Canavan or Dara o se and the diference will be day and night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on September 14, 2007, 06:18:46 PM
is the final fixed for Keady or not. When will we no?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cross4capital on September 14, 2007, 07:26:03 PM
how come the final isnt gonna be at cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2007, 08:15:08 PM
Illdecide, I apologise for my earlier comments to you, check your pms.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 15, 2007, 06:03:52 PM
Granemore beat the bridge by 2 this evening.
Desperate wind fucked up the game.  We'd all the possession in the first half (playing against the wind), wasted a lot of it but led by about 3 at half time.  Granemore had most of the possession in the second half and made good use of theirs.  Deserved their victory.

I doubt that's the year over now. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 15, 2007, 07:29:39 PM
The senior championship final has been officially fixed for Oliver Plunket Park Crossmaglen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 15, 2007, 07:32:54 PM
What was with all the Keady talk?
Bullshit?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 15, 2007, 10:20:49 PM
carrickcruppen beat st. peters tonight 2-14 to 2-8 in the worst game of football i have ever witnessed. referree bottled in big-time in his refusal to give st. peters a clear cut penalty in the last few minutes, have they had scored would have put them 1 point in the lead, cruppen went down the field and scored 1-1 to end up winning by 6 on a scoreline that totally flattered the performance.

however it is another 2 points!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 16, 2007, 02:02:47 PM
can't see crupprn getting all their games played at this stage. looks like st pats and killeavy for div 1.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on September 16, 2007, 03:33:12 PM
they're gonna have to try. i believe there'es a game on wednesday night in clann eireann.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on September 16, 2007, 06:07:33 PM
Where is the co final FFS??? Is it cross or Keady?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 17, 2007, 08:55:46 AM
It's in Cross

Ogs beat Whitecross 3:13 to 1:08 on saturday night

any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 17, 2007, 11:28:00 AM
both clans and killeavy tops their groups at the All Ireland 7's in Dublin at the weekend, only to be eliminated in the last 16. The lads then meet up in Kilmacuds for many beers while longstone beat St Galls in the final. Good times guys  ;) :D Oh and the clans had to men sent off in the tournament so this refereing conspiracy theory that i have is spreading right across the country now :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 17, 2007, 11:55:49 AM
The Armagh / Crossmaglen County Board decided that the final should be played in Crossmaglen due to Healthy and Saftey reasons and that Keady  / Davitt Park wasnt suitable.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 17, 2007, 12:29:20 PM
Umgola would you ever give it a rest!!! >:(

For years people have been spouting this shite and it gets a bit tiresome.  Cross have the only facilities in Armagh under current regulations to facilitate a ground.  It is not our fault and we do not use it as a means to pressurise the County Board.  If the County Board had any foresight they would get their own pitch but that is hardly Cross's fault.

I am sure that the various teams Cross have beaten in Clones don't call the Ulster Council a similar bastardised name that you have made a la the DUP.  Cross would play any team anywhere and have no preference.  I don't know if they will beat Pearse Ogs but in the last ten years in the Championship they have beaten them in Keady, Armagh and Cross so it doesn't seem like the pitch has any bearing on the result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 17, 2007, 12:45:55 PM
I dont know why your referring to Clones for, its a recognised ground for holding Key Ulster matches whether club or county, most club players involved in the Ulster Club championship series would probably feel it to be a priveledge to play in Clones.

The simple point is if Keady can hold a county semi final then it could justify holding the final, as i stated in an earlier post Crossmaglen objected to playing pearse ogs in the athletic grounds in 1986 because it was classed as there home pitch.

Even though its a few years ago it still happen. I know that the ogs boys dont care where its played but it would at least be fair to have it at a netral venue
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 17, 2007, 12:49:26 PM
Cross also beat ogs in Silverbridge by 7 points in 2001, so the neutral venue didn't help them much that night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on September 17, 2007, 01:27:28 PM
County final in Cross!  >:(
Home advantage is an advantage. That's why it's called "home advantage". Ogs have it all to do as it is. Playing Cross in their own back yard gives them a mountain to climb. The way our County Board operates is more like Linfield/IFA than a GAA Board. I suppose Cross will be providing the stewards, umpires and linesmen. Surely they won't be allowed to appoint the ref as well?

Why not take the game to Newry or 'Blaney? At least it would be a level playing field.

Portadown beat Killeavy in the JHC final yesterday. Well done St Malachy's.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 17, 2007, 01:30:16 PM
The reason I said that about Clones is that Cross have played on it so much in recent years they are probably more used to it than any other team.  And like Clones Cross is a recognised County pitch which has held club and county championships at various levels, unlike keady.

I understand that due to regulations laid down by HQ , and not r=the county board, all Championship finals have to be played in grounds which meet certain standards.  I believe that Cross is currently the only field in Armagh up to that standard, but I am open to correction.

If a neutral field is available and up to the required standard then the Ogs should make it their business to put that point across.  Otherwise stop your hand wringing and whining and making unfounded accustations of bias being shown by the county board to Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lecale2 on September 17, 2007, 01:39:25 PM
Is there regulations that state your final must be played within the county? Why not Castleblaney or Newry? It does seem a bit unfair giving the favorites home advantage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 17, 2007, 01:47:01 PM
Broken, I trully believe that the final should not be played at Cross because it is home advantage and there are many reasons why this would benefit Cross ie support ,traveling, preparation etc. I am sure you can recognise this, however i would not blame Cross for this. My gripe is with the county board. It is them who set the fixtures and it is them who cannot manage to set out plans to revamp other grounds so as they do meet health and safety standards. I saw there that a team in Tyrone purchased the old nally stand from Croke park. I can't think of a better stand in terms of culture to have at ones ground and for the county board in Tyrone to do this shows they are very inventive and always moving forward. Our guys pump all the money into the senior panel and neglect every club in Armagh. The Cross are well enough equipped financialy to cope themselves but we would struggle with finances and would look to the county board for help as would most clubs, especially on our pitch because they claim ownership and won't sell it to us. But back to the issue i certainly wouldn't blame Cross because i know the are just playing where the are told.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 17, 2007, 01:50:08 PM
Lecale i think the word County gives it away. The COUNTY final should be played withing our own county or else we would be a laughing stock to the rest of the country. There are counties that are classed as minnows in football like Leitrim and Louth (no offence made with the minnows comment) but they still have two or three grounds to host there final. A county like Armagh with the recent success should certainly have a choice of venues for a county final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 17, 2007, 01:54:06 PM
Although Cross have a distinct advantage playing at home there is no point in giving out about it now.
Did anyone think at the outset of the year the Final was going to be played elsewhere?

No point in crying about it now, the time to cry is at your AGM & let your delegates take it to the County board. Following the relative success Armagh have experienced in recent times the County board still have not got a suitable ground.
At the end of the day it is their fault
Title: BC1
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 17, 2007, 01:55:32 PM
i believe the point was put across at a meeting last wednesday night!!!


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 17, 2007, 02:02:12 PM
What point umgola?  The point that Ogs are objecting?  The point that there are no other grounds suitable?

Was there an answer to the argument made or did the county board simply say "away off to feck with you"?

I genuinely wish that it could be played at a neutral venue but it is not the fault of Cross where the game is fixed.  For years tehre have been accusations of things being done suit Cross but it doesn't seem to have been backed up by anything other than idle talk.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 17, 2007, 02:02:57 PM
As far as the Ogs are concerned we will be playing in Cross.  That decision has been made and it is time to move on.  We have a county final to think about
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 17, 2007, 02:12:22 PM
Listen BC1, if Keady wasnt suitable enough then why is it holding County Championship Hurling matches!!!!!

It appears Keady is acceptable in certain circumstances but not in others, which in my opinion and thats all it is that the county board should stage the match there

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 17, 2007, 02:55:02 PM
Potential attendace capacity is crucial!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on September 17, 2007, 04:07:59 PM
Keady wouldn't have the capacity for the championship final.  Its alright for County hurling because there's only a few hundred that go to the matches.  Personally I think Abbey park is as good as anywhere.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 17, 2007, 06:51:14 PM
Quote from: 5iveTimes on September 17, 2007, 04:04:33 PM
Just from a neutral point of view, but how many people are expected to attend the final? 8-10000? Could Keady hold that many?
I dont think I have ever been to Keadys pitch, but I have been in Croos on numerous occassions and it holds a decent enough crowd in relative comfort and safety.

there's no way there'll be any more than 2/3000 at this final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on September 17, 2007, 09:10:43 PM
most counties probably, but i wudnt imagine many more than 3 or 4000 for armagh! may be wrong of course!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lecale2 on September 17, 2007, 09:18:25 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on September 17, 2007, 09:10:43 PM
most counties probably, but i wudnt imagine many more than 3 or 4000 for armagh! may be wrong of course!
That's surprising. I go to Down & Antrim finals every year and there's far more than that at both. Why the small attendances given the interest in football in Armagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on September 17, 2007, 09:25:22 PM
as i say i could be wrong i just think people are gettin fed up with the cross final. not an amagh person myself but been to last few county finals and big crowds there but not massive. would imagine probably around 5 or 6000. most other counties would get bigger crowds due to new and different teams bein in finals and most likely it will be close. not so in armagh! no disrespect to cross. worthy champions!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 17, 2007, 09:28:54 PM
Don't even think it is a Cross thing, the general championship attendances in Armagh are alot less than the likes of Tyrone, Down Derry and Louth. Too many people put County before Club in Armagh, gibshites!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 17, 2007, 09:30:01 PM
Corn is right, club football would be poorly supported.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on September 17, 2007, 09:33:01 PM
ah well there u have it then  :D knew i couldt be right! also attended the cross and dromintee drawn match and was relatively impressed with the crowd, would that be the biggest for the year bar the final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 17, 2007, 10:08:05 PM
Would not be surprised if it was bigger than the final sideline.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on September 17, 2007, 10:51:16 PM
Quote from: cross4capital on September 13, 2007, 07:23:37 PM
Quote from: ard mhaca abu on September 11, 2007, 06:18:12 PM
fao cross4capital

QuoteVery good argument crossfire! well put together. The basic fatc is, cruppen had no business being in a championship game with us, they are an average intermediate side, i mean what about paul keenan? how that man is on the county while star footballers like micky macnamee and tony kernan and johnny murtagh are kept out? they should have thrown on his fat brother sure.

im sean keenan..paul's fat brother...if u are so jealous of the fact that paul is a county player paul tell him rather than be a coward and hide behind the name cross4capital....

ur makin a pure dick outta urself nd bc1 nd crossfire have already suggested u to shut up nd stop bein a child..ur an insult to ur club..if ur such a big man name urself like i have done...

cruppen do revolve round more than 1 player as seen on sunday..nd are a big club...with more than my brother and i to insult....u w**ker

Yeah Cruppen are such a good club, its a credit to you camlough folk that you find time to train after spending your days drinking buckfast and breaking into cars! you call me a coward? we didn't shit ourselves last sunday! Cruppen will never be near us again, you don't have the youth setup, your just a crowd of camlough scumbags.
wud you get a life and slip on u fuckin tosser good job all cross people are not as hateful as u ya p***k
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 17, 2007, 11:02:50 PM
Saturday 15 September

ACL – Div. I
Crossmaglen w/o; Mullaghbawn cnf
Pearse Og 3-13; Whitecross 1-8

ACL – Div. II
Carrickcruppen 2-14; St Peter's 2-8
St Patrick's w/o; Annaghmore cnf
Granemore 0-10; Silverbridge 0-8

ACL – Div. III
Collegeland w/o; Middletown cnf
St Paul's 2-9; Clady 0-4
Crossmaglen II 1-7; Ballyhegan 4-11

ACL – Div. IV
Mullaghbrack cnf; Derrynoose w/o


What's going on here?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 18, 2007, 08:14:49 AM
I know Ballyhegan won a match!!!  :P

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 18, 2007, 09:26:20 AM
Anyone heard much about this new post being made available by the armagh county board?? The 'director of football'.... from what ive heard theres another 30 grand a year with Joe Kernans name on it!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 18, 2007, 09:36:52 AM
you're the man in the know Hank.  Do tell
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on September 18, 2007, 12:03:48 PM
Apologise if this has been covered already but I just heard the company developing the Athletic grounds has gone bust and work has ceased yet again.

What a bloody joke this county board is.

They were riding on a crest of a wave with the senior team doing well, but they are useless. Nugents position must now be untenable, after all he is an employee not a volunteer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 18, 2007, 01:07:43 PM
Well put it like this spirit if you had made that many c**k ups in your job mate you wouldn't still be there, but the county board seems to be able to do whatever they like and get away with it.
   On another point lads i think we all agreed there for once on the aspect o bamsticks putting county before club. Without the club we have nothing lads and it is the county attitude that allows the county board to make these slip ups and get away with them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 18, 2007, 01:08:19 PM
Spirit you should know by now that they are all useless and corrupt, take the money away from them and see how many are still willing to put their time in. Worse than Politicians.

I heard also that Kernan had some sort of stupid role that guarantee's him money for nothing without having to put any input, just turn up now and again to the odd meeting get a steak and cheque in no particular order.

And yes Goats Ballyhegan won a match, i was having a few pints with McKeever on sat night in Dublin he was telling me about that trouncing you's gave Cross (i better not foget to mention it was Cross II's)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 18, 2007, 01:21:21 PM
were u down for the sevens ill decide?

Not only has paudie cocked up a few times but i now see he has a full time assistant working with him down at the canaris to help him at it!
This fella was telln me personally how paudie told him it was a handy job and there were loads a trips away and days out an all!!!
wat a joke!

This stupid role is as a 'director of football', god knows wat it means but it involves picking up a nice cheque and also insures that joe will still have his say on the Armagh set up!!

As for the athletic grounds, they were ment to be ready for the junior championship final, however, the contractor didnt go bust as was said they simply were not bein paid and so pulled the plug!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 18, 2007, 01:40:31 PM
Is this position 'Directo of Football' just going to be handed to Joe on a plate without it being advertsied for anyone to go for it? Though with the eejits in the county board, anyone else needn't bother applying as it only is a 1 horse race.

As for the gaelic field i was told the other day that Armagh were selling it to the council so that they could use it for concerts etc like the Ronan Keating one on at the palace
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 18, 2007, 01:42:40 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on September 18, 2007, 01:21:21 PM
were u down for the sevens ill decide?

Not only has paudie cocked up a few times but i now see he has a full time assistant working with him down at the canaris to help him at it!
This fella was telln me personally how paudie told him it was a handy job and there were loads a trips away and days out an all!!!
wat a joke!

This stupid role is as a 'director of football', god knows wat it means but it involves picking up a nice cheque and also insures that joe will still have his say on the Armagh set up!!

As for the athletic grounds, they were ment to be ready for the junior championship final, however, the contractor didnt go bust as was said they simply were not bein paid and so pulled the plug!

Aye i was down at the sevens, great day out. What sickens me is that most of the clubs in Armagh struggle to get the money to the county board for development or whatever other reason it's for and then it goes to clampets like P Og Nugent etc etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 18, 2007, 01:47:39 PM
Which McKeever where you chatting to?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 18, 2007, 02:03:46 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on September 18, 2007, 01:47:39 PM
Which McKeever where you chatting to?

Paddy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 18, 2007, 02:35:32 PM
Quote from: BenDover on September 18, 2007, 01:40:31 PM
Is this position 'Directo of Football' just going to be handed to Joe on a plate without it being advertsied for anyone to go for it? Though with the eejits in the county board, anyone else needn't bother applying as it only is a 1 horse race.

As for the gaelic field i was told the other day that Armagh were selling it to the council so that they could use it for concerts etc like the Ronan Keating one on at the palace

Maybe we'll get Shane Ward  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 18, 2007, 04:07:51 PM
I'd be happy with Sean Ward or even Ed-ward  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 18, 2007, 04:28:58 PM
Any news on weekend fixtures???????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 18, 2007, 04:31:52 PM
Just got them

ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 23 SEPTEMBER 2007


Wednesday 19 September

ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Clann Eireann v Carrickcruppen (Malachy McNicholl)


Thursday 20 September

All-County 'B' League Final Replay (7.30)
Carrickcruppen v Silverbridge (Sean McClelland) at Ballymacnab
(Extra time, if necessary)


Sunday 23 September

ACL – Div. I (2.00)
Mullaghbawn v Whitecross (Frank McDonald)
Clan na Gael v Maghery (Kevin Murtagh)
Pearse Og v Dromintee (Jim Slevin)
Tir na nOg v Culloville (Tony O'Hare)
Harps v Crossmaglen (Barney Henry)

ACL – Div. II (2.00)
St Michael's v Clann Eireann (Gary Smith)
St Peter's v Granemore (Ronan Quigley)
Killeavey v Keady (Tony Watters)
Annaghmore v St Patrick's (Noel Martin)
Ballymacnab v Silverbridge (Brendan Gorman)
Carrickcruppen v Wolfe Tones (Paul Rath)

ACL – Div. III (2.00)
Middletown v Collegeland (Seamus O'Neill)
St Paul's v Crossmaglen II (Sean McClelland)
Madden v Lissummon (Vincent O'Neill)
Ballyhegan v An Port Mor (Patrick Duffy)
Clady v Sarsfields (Sean McClatchey)
Clonmore v Tullysaran (Stephen McKinley)

ACL – Div. IV (2.00)
Mullaghbrack v Belleek (Eamon Nugent)
Forkhill v Corrinshego (Paul Boylan)
Derrynoose v Dorsey Emmett's (Jim Burns)
Phelim Brady's v Eire Og (Kevin McNeice)
Grange v Shane O'Neill's (Paudie Hughes)

All-County Under-14 League Final (4.00)
Pearse Og v Shane O'Neill's (Rory Robinson) at Ballymacnab
(Extra time, if necessary)

All-County Under-16 League Final (5.30)
Harps v Tir na nOg (Dessie McDonnell) at Ballymacnab
(Extra time, if necessary)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 18, 2007, 09:11:44 PM
QuoteNot only has paudie cocked up a few times but i now see he has a full time assistant working with him down at the canaris to help him at it!
This fella was telln me personally how paudie told him it was a handy job and there were loads a trips away and days out an all!!!
wat a joke!

You are not serious I hope.
Who is this bloke and what is his job and what does it entail?
I thought Paddy Og Nugent was a FULL-TIME ADMINSTRATOR for Armagh.  Can he not do this job himself?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 19, 2007, 08:28:42 AM
Im deadly serious exile, nugent is a full time employee but he definetly has an assistant now working with him down at the canaris!!
I knew the fella from school, he is from portadown direction (not 100% sure) and he had been an admin officer in the place i work until last week and he left for this new job!! I asked him about the job and his reply was that he didnt know much other than he was working for nugent and he wud get loadsa trips away and free arma stuff!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 19, 2007, 10:34:05 AM

If Paddy Og is a full time employee of the county board (funded by the ulster council i believe) is he then still allowed to sit on the county executive?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 19, 2007, 02:25:31 PM
I would have imagined the new manager would have contacted all the current panel, rather than do it through the media ???

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7002487.stm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 19, 2007, 03:07:46 PM
Lads what date is the county final? is it the 30th or the 7th
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 19, 2007, 03:39:15 PM
30th
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 19, 2007, 06:19:30 PM
Quote[/qI asked him about the job and his reply was that he didnt know much other than he was working for nugent and he wud get loadsa trips away and free arma stuff!!uote]

Hank, You cannot be serious.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on September 19, 2007, 07:05:50 PM
Pints in answer to your question.  I have no idea I was informed on Saturday the game was off and I haven't been talking to anyone as to why yet,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 19, 2007, 09:38:54 PM
How did the Clann Eireann and Carrickcruppen game go tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 19, 2007, 10:52:14 PM
carrickcruppen 1-13 clann eireann 1-8

great second half show from cruppen, clann eireann scored 1-1 during 8 minutes of injury time that the referee found from somewher, god only knows!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on September 19, 2007, 10:54:12 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on September 19, 2007, 09:38:54 PM
How did the Clann Eireann and Carrickcruppen game go tonight?

[/quote cruppen won by 4 or 5 points good second half performance  from cruppen despite missin a few  main players
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 20, 2007, 08:01:07 AM
Does anyone know if all the league games will be played this year, even though some teams are safe and have nothing to gain by playing them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 20, 2007, 08:54:51 AM
Well we have 3 games left Dromintee x2 and Maghery. We play Maghery on sunday and from what i'm told that will be our last league game, as for the 2 Dromintee games your guess is as good as mine as to who gets points and who doesn't. I know the 2 Dromintee games are worthless to both teams but the fixtures should be finished, i suppose both teams will take 2 pts each......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on September 20, 2007, 09:27:27 AM
I was told 2 weeks ago that the county board would only be fixing the games that related to promotion and relegation. All others were up to the clubs themselves. Which in my eyes is completely wrong as these fella's have trained all year to play football, every team can't get promoted or worse relegated. Play the games and if neither team has much to gain it gives a chance for fringe players to get game time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 20, 2007, 09:37:43 AM
Lads are there any early prices for nextweeks final????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 20, 2007, 10:11:06 AM
Ladbrokes prices
Cross 1/10
Og's 5/1

There is no price the draw so I assume this is outright
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 20, 2007, 10:55:59 AM
Quote from: full back on September 20, 2007, 10:11:06 AM
Ladbrokes prices
Cross 1/10
Og's 5/1

There is no price the draw so I assume this is outright

Thems brutal odds lads
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 20, 2007, 10:56:36 AM
Im in a no-win situation here.....
Although I'd love to see someone topple Cross I'd hate it to be our city rivals Pearse Og, the smugness would be too much to handle!!!  ;)
I also think Cross are worth another 3 or 4 points at home anyway so the Ogs have it all to do......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on September 20, 2007, 11:41:19 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 19, 2007, 03:07:46 PM
Lads what date is the county final? is it the 30th or the 7th

Any idea what time the final is on at?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on September 20, 2007, 11:44:28 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 20, 2007, 10:55:59 AM
Quote from: full back on September 20, 2007, 10:11:06 AM
Ladbrokes prices
Cross 1/10
Og's 5/1

There is no price the draw so I assume this is outright

Thems brutal odds lads

Candyman I'm feeling you there, why not back them then it wont be as bad if they pull through and if they're beat you'll dislike them evem more.

Any Handicap betting, maybe Ogs -4, 2/1 I might touch that bet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 20, 2007, 11:46:24 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 20, 2007, 10:55:59 AM
Quote from: full back on September 20, 2007, 10:11:06 AM
Ladbrokes prices
Cross 1/10
Og's 5/1

There is no price the draw so I assume this is outright

Thems brutal odds lads

For a bookie to make profit illdecide the odds have to be over 100%
Going by these odds Ladbrokes are working off 107.58% which is a healthy market for them
I think this is right, although stand to be corrected
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 20, 2007, 11:49:32 AM
Spirit it'll be hard enough for the Ogs to beat Cross never mind u looking them at -4 points how about +4 instead
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on September 20, 2007, 11:52:23 AM
Quote from: BenDover on September 20, 2007, 11:49:32 AM
Spirit it'll be hard enough for the Ogs to beat Cross never mind u looking them at -4 points how about +4 instead

Thats the one Ben, your on the ball today.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 20, 2007, 12:42:44 PM
QuoteAlthough I'd love to see someone topple Cross I'd hate it to be our city rivals Pearse Og, the smugness would be too much to handle!!!
Just think of it the way I do when it's Cross V Dromintee - whoever loses you'll be happy  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 20, 2007, 01:15:28 PM
Well it's a bit different for me because the only North Armagh team cappable of reaching the final is the Clans so once were out i couldn't care less who wins it. As long as the best team on the day wins and no-one gets hurt i.e. injured ;) then i don't care.
You guys are different because your rivals be it mid or south Armagh are more than likley to be contesting the county final. (i may not have worded it to well but you know what i mean)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on September 20, 2007, 01:31:05 PM
Even at 1/10 you're buying money. There's no way I can see Cross beat.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 20, 2007, 01:31:35 PM
Spirit I have yet to see a sign up with your name on it supporting the Ogs in the green + gold half of the town  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on September 20, 2007, 01:40:41 PM
Heard thr ogs game is off tonight.

No sign from me Ben, just seen them erecting on the blue side of town as well, apparently signs from McKennas, Devlins and Harps club, so the whole town getting behind the Ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 20, 2007, 02:24:59 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on September 20, 2007, 01:40:41 PM
Heard thr ogs game is off tonight.

No sign from me Ben, just seen them erecting on the blue side of town as well, apparently signs from McKennas, Devlins and Harps club, so the whole town getting behind the Ogs

Our game is off tonight spirit

I'm surprised you're not out painting the house for the final ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 20, 2007, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 20, 2007, 02:24:59 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on September 20, 2007, 01:40:41 PM
Heard thr ogs game is off tonight.

No sign from me Ben, just seen them erecting on the blue side of town as well, apparently signs from McKennas, Devlins and Harps club, so the whole town getting behind the Ogs

Our game is off tonight spirit

I'm surprised you're not out painting the house for the final ;)
:D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 20, 2007, 03:27:40 PM
South Armagh bandit i have got burned by odds like that before. When the quote it is money for lifting occurs it can sometimes backfire. I can tell you now Crossmaglen are no 1/10 favourites to win a county final. I fancy them to win by 3-4 points but they should be about 1/3 or 1/4 these odds are Brutal and i will be staying well away from them. Once again the bookies have us by the nuts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 20, 2007, 03:39:16 PM
 :D :D  Has that washed of yet Spirit?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on September 20, 2007, 03:45:57 PM
Listen lads, my Da painted the house, I was off work on the Monday and the gazette called up to the house and I had to take a picture. It was there for my sisters wedding a week after the AI final but it has since been covered, dont worry lads, it will be Blue and white in Sept '08
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 20, 2007, 04:44:31 PM
Harps will be raging after getting the bulbs in the floodlights replaced and the grass cut yesterday for the Ogs game tonight.

Rumour had it Harps were providing refreshments for The ogs team after the game, also Joe Houlihan has been seen doing door-to-door collections around Drumbreda to provide funding for the new bunting being erected from his house to the top of the estate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on September 20, 2007, 09:38:21 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on September 20, 2007, 04:44:31 PM
Harps will be raging after getting the bulbs in the floodlights replaced and the grass cut yesterday for the Ogs game tonight.

Rumour had it Harps were providing refreshments for The ogs team after the game, also Joe Houlihan has been seen doing door-to-door collections around Drumbreda to provide funding for the new bunting being erected from his house to the top of the estate.

He wouldnt gather enough funds to make it past his own front gate in that estate. the Ogs arent exactly well thought of in Drumbreda and proper order too. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on September 20, 2007, 10:00:26 PM
Stew - things are changing here in Ulster. We have Ian Paisley as First Minister getting on great guns with his Deputy First Minster Marty McGuinness. Things have changed. for the better. Maybe the Harps are cheering on the Ogs!  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 20, 2007, 10:04:18 PM
Bridge beat Cruppen in the B league final - 5 points in it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 21, 2007, 10:37:53 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 20, 2007, 10:04:18 PM
Bridge beat Cruppen in the B league final - 5 points in it.

did you get to the game pints?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on September 21, 2007, 11:10:48 AM
great win by the bridge last nite. ruairi griffen had an excellent game scoring 1-5 in the process. always nice to be the first winners of something especially at all county cuz as we all know it doesnt happen the bridge too often  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: upthecrups on September 21, 2007, 11:56:34 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 20, 2007, 10:04:18 PM
Bridge beat Cruppen in the B league final - 5 points in it.

Bridge prob deserved there win!! Some strange refereeing decisions!!
Hardly matter but there were only 3 points in it at the end though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 21, 2007, 12:00:24 PM
Who was the referee?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 21, 2007, 12:40:51 PM
Quote from: upthecrups on September 21, 2007, 11:56:34 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 20, 2007, 10:04:18 PM
Bridge beat Cruppen in the B league final - 5 points in it.

Bridge prob deserved there win!! Some strange refereeing decisions!!
Hardly matter but there were only 3 points in it at the end though.
apologies.

Wasn't at it dontcare.

Quote
ruairi griffen had an excellent game scoring 1-5 in the process
Heard he was excellent.  Another lad for the future.
Inthemaking am I right in saying Bridge B team unbeaten last year and only beaten twice this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on September 21, 2007, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 21, 2007, 12:40:51 PM

Wasn't at it dontcare.

I thought you were a Bridge man?  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 21, 2007, 04:37:35 PM
 any rumours/news on mc donnells backroom team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 21, 2007, 05:42:07 PM
ruairi griffen looks a fine player. should soon make senior team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 21, 2007, 07:53:39 PM
Quote from: SouthArmaghBandit on September 21, 2007, 12:58:33 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 21, 2007, 12:40:51 PM

Wasn't at it dontcare.

I thought you were a Bridge man?  ???
Yeah but one that's away from home a lot  :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on September 21, 2007, 08:18:17 PM
Quote from: SouthArmaghBandit on September 20, 2007, 10:00:26 PM
Stew - things are changing here in Ulster. We have Ian Paisley as First Minister getting on great guns with his Deputy First Minster Marty McGuinness. Things have changed. for the better. Maybe the Harps are cheering on the Ogs!  :-\

Some things never change however and me having no time for the Ogs is one of them. Some harps members might let on they are supporting the Ogs but they really dont give a damn about them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on September 21, 2007, 09:19:25 PM
Quote from: stew on September 20, 2007, 09:38:21 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on September 20, 2007, 04:44:31 PM
Harps will be raging after getting the bulbs in the floodlights replaced and the grass cut yesterday for the Ogs game tonight.

Rumour had it Harps were providing refreshments for The ogs team after the game, also Joe Houlihan has been seen doing door-to-door collections around Drumbreda to provide funding for the new bunting being erected from his house to the top of the estate.

He wouldnt gather enough funds to make it past his own front gate in that estate. the Ogs arent exactly well thought of in Drumbreda and proper order too. :)

"we remembember our dead" in Drumbreda
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on September 22, 2007, 01:50:40 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 21, 2007, 05:42:07 PM
ruairi griffen looks a fine player. should soon make senior team.

well he knows himself he cant play senior football untill he trains with them first but he is still young and it can be no harm waiting until after minor football especially for the physical side of it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: haveaharp on September 22, 2007, 08:39:37 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on September 21, 2007, 09:19:25 PM
Quote from: stew on September 20, 2007, 09:38:21 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on September 20, 2007, 04:44:31 PM
Harps will be raging after getting the bulbs in the floodlights replaced and the grass cut yesterday for the Ogs game tonight.

Rumour had it Harps were providing refreshments for The ogs team after the game, also Joe Houlihan has been seen doing door-to-door collections around Drumbreda to provide funding for the new bunting being erected from his house to the top of the estate.

He wouldnt gather enough funds to make it past his own front gate in that estate. the Ogs arent exactly well thought of in Drumbreda and proper order too. :)

"we remembember our dead" in Drumbreda

Especially the hunger strickers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 22, 2007, 01:53:19 PM

[/quote]

"we remembember our dead" in Drumbreda
[/quote]

Leave 'Mock' out of this :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on September 22, 2007, 06:01:16 PM
didn't know mr malone was the scholar?

Harps man of course! ;) but then again the harps never blew up their own club house :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 22, 2007, 06:34:47 PM
inthemaking i thought he was training with them. But i may be wrong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on September 22, 2007, 06:41:48 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 22, 2007, 06:34:47 PM
inthemaking i thought he was training with them. But i may be wrong.

no he said himself after the game in the club he doesnt remember when we was last at training but said he would wait until next season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 23, 2007, 08:20:42 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on September 22, 2007, 06:01:16 PM
didn't know mr malone was the scholar?

Harps man of course! ;) but then again the harps never blew up their own club house :P


Sure why would they want to blow up the Blue Oyster bar, apparently it was supposed to be doing a great trade on a monday night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on September 23, 2007, 10:37:53 AM
What club house was ble up??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on September 23, 2007, 12:54:29 PM
Annaghmore v St Patricks game this afternoon has been postponed due to a death in the club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 23, 2007, 02:44:01 PM
Carrickcruppen and Wolfe Tones game on FiveFM at the moment.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 23, 2007, 04:18:33 PM
ballymacnab beat the 'bridge by 2 points.
Dull enough game, we slept through most of it. We levelled it just as time was up, I thought we might steal it,  but Nab responded with a couple of injury time points. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: McLovin on September 23, 2007, 04:57:58 PM
Cruppen hammered Wolf Tones 1-17 to 1-8, Tones got scrappy goal near last kick of the game. Surprised by the decline of the tones, big strong team but no heart, Cruppen did what they had to do first half then just ran away with it in the second. Think Peter Loughran scored 1-7. Class act.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 23, 2007, 04:59:37 PM
QuoteSurprised by the decline of the tones, big strong team but no heart,
Big strong dirty side with no football in them would be my description...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 23, 2007, 05:30:05 PM
Cross beat harps by 7 points
Both teams short a number of regulars
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 23, 2007, 06:35:08 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 23, 2007, 04:18:33 PM
ballymacnab beat the 'bridge by 2 points.
Dull enough game, we slept through most of it. We levelled it just as time was up, I thought we might steal it,  but Nab responded with a couple of injury time points. 

Looks like that is the end of the bridges promotion push after the nab defeated them and granemore beat yas last week to pints?? wat you think of game 2day after you stated earlier in the year we wer worst team in division??? does that make yous worst team in division now???  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 23, 2007, 07:26:07 PM
Any other Armagh club results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 23, 2007, 07:38:46 PM
i see the bridge are slipping a bit . promotion gone nothing to play for. another year drifted by and nothing to show for it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 23, 2007, 07:47:26 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 23, 2007, 06:35:08 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 23, 2007, 04:18:33 PM
ballymacnab beat the 'bridge by 2 points.
Dull enough game, we slept through most of it. We levelled it just as time was up, I thought we might steal it,  but Nab responded with a couple of injury time points. 

Looks like that is the end of the bridges promotion push after the nab defeated them and granemore beat yas last week to pints?? wat you think of game 2day after you stated earlier in the year we wer worst team in division??? does that make yous worst team in division now???  ;)
I think promotion hopes really ended when Killeavy beat us.  Considering we've been riddled with injuries all year, I don't think we've had a full squad to choose from for any game (6 missing today - a seventh off injured early in the second half), the youngsters did exceptionally well to keep in touch for so long and Killeavy and St. Pat's record in division 2 this year is outstanding. 
It's a pity they're dropping the heads now.
- I'm not making excuses when I talk about the injuries, in a strange way I think it's done us good.

The worst performance (or excuse for a performance) I've seen this year was Ballymacnab in the 'Bridge.

Charlie
Quotei see the bridge are slipping a bit . promotion gone nothing to play for. another year drifted by and nothing to show for it.
Dissapointing year but a lot of positives too. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nabman on September 23, 2007, 08:05:34 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 23, 2007, 07:47:26 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 23, 2007, 06:35:08 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 23, 2007, 04:18:33 PM
ballymacnab beat the 'bridge by 2 points.
Dull enough game, we slept through most of it. We levelled it just as time was up, I thought we might steal it,  but Nab responded with a couple of injury time points. 

Looks like that is the end of the bridges promotion push after the nab defeated them and granemore beat yas last week to pints?? wat you think of game 2day after you stated earlier in the year we wer worst team in division??? does that make yous worst team in division now???  ;)
I think promotion hopes really ended when Killeavy beat us.  Considering we've been riddled with injuries all year, I don't think we've had a full squad to choose from for any game (6 missing today - a seventh off injured early in the second half), the youngsters did exceptionally well to keep in touch for so long and Killeavy and St. Pat's record in division 2 this year is outstanding. 
It's a pity they're dropping the heads now.
- I'm not making excuses when I talk about the injuries, in a strange way I think it's done us good.

The worst performance (or excuse for a performance) I've seen this year was Ballymacnab in the 'Bridge.

Charlie
Quotei see the bridge are slipping a bit . promotion gone nothing to play for. another year drifted by and nothing to show for it.
Dissapointing year but a lot of positives too. 
have to say it was our worst performance this year against use up in the bridge, but at the end of the day, we took 2points off u aswell. dont make excuses about players misssing cause we have about 6 or 7 away all year! maybe us and granemore arent that bad of sides (even if we are the 2 worst teams in the senior champoionship!!)
;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 23, 2007, 08:22:57 PM
There's me thinking I said I wasn't making excuses about injured players in an earlier post  ::)


Yous stepping down to intermediate next year?

btw I think it's great that staggering past a 'bridge side with nothing to play for gives you something to brag about   ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 23, 2007, 08:32:00 PM
You wouldn'd be related to Loughran with that e mail address would you mclovin??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nabman on September 23, 2007, 08:51:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 23, 2007, 08:22:57 PM
There's me thinking I said I wasn't making excuses about injured players in an earlier post  ::)


Yous stepping down to intermediate next year?

btw I think it's great that staggering past a 'bridge side with nothing to play for gives you something to brag about   ::)

pints im not gona get in2 a slagging match with ya, from what ive read thats all u ever do on this thing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 23, 2007, 08:58:01 PM
This from the "nabman" with 5 posts who only comes on to talk when the Nab beat the bridge. 

Why haven't you been commenting on all your games like I and several others do with their clubs, win or lose.

I don't know what I'd get into a slagging match about, yous won today fair and square, no complaints.

It's a pity you can't be a good sport. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on September 23, 2007, 09:07:34 PM
What was the other results? pints is a good sport even if doesnt like me. and to be fair to him hes on here all the time even when Bridge loss.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 23, 2007, 09:32:37 PM
another two points today from cruppen as the hunt for promotion goes on!

just hope we manage to fit in all our games before the shut-off date!

big nail loney mclovin is a cousin of peter loughran and he was only stating what everyone in cruppen knows that peter is a class act! his form of late has been truly remarkable and in the last 7 games for cruppen he has scored 4-32.

next up newtown on saturday evening!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 23, 2007, 10:25:47 PM
Clans drew with Maghery at davitt.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cross4capital on September 23, 2007, 11:09:50 PM
1/10 is horrible odds does anyone know where you could get better odds? gonna throw 300 on it. ogs won't be near us. depends whether we might let them in it for a while just to make a game of it. 12 i n a row isn't bad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Redhandfan on September 23, 2007, 11:34:42 PM
An Port Mor drew away to Ballyhegan (0-9 to 0-9, I think) in Division 3.  Sarsfields were very lucky to beat Clady by a point in a top versus bottom clash in this division.  Leaders Sarsfields and An Port Mor are still looking good for promotion, but Madden continue to pose a major threat to the Blackwater men.  The meeting of An Port Mor and Madden in a fortnight's time could decide who will join Sarsfields in Division Two next season.

Meanwhile, Madden beat An Port Mor by two points in the Donal Powell Top Four 'B' Final at Pearse Og Park this evening.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 24, 2007, 08:31:59 AM
Quote from: cross4capital on September 23, 2007, 11:09:50 PM
1/10 is horrible odds does anyone know where you could get better odds? gonna throw 300 on it. ogs won't be near us. depends whether we might let them in it for a while just to make a game of it. 12 i n a row isn't bad.

Good lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 24, 2007, 08:39:07 AM
What about the rest of the results? the teletext and Irish News were blank for Armagh results. As Winsam said we drew with Maghery after being 1-06 to 0-02 up at half time, we really should have been out of sight but fair play to Maghery the battled hard in the second half and got their rewards from a few individual errors. Talking about a game of 2 halves
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 24, 2007, 08:59:51 AM
QuoteAnnaghmore v St Patricks game this afternoon has been postponed due to a death in the club.

David, who died in Annaghmore?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 24, 2007, 11:55:07 AM
Building up to the County Final on sunday.... anyone want to make a bold prediction???
I'll say cross by 5points....  ::)
Is there any betting for ogs + points or just the crap that was posted before???
(1/10 they are having a laugh...)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 24, 2007, 12:22:28 PM
Hughes' have the Ogs +4 or +5 at 4/5 i think
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on September 24, 2007, 12:35:09 PM
that cat
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 24, 2007, 12:36:56 PM
He would never be too generous with the odds would he?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 24, 2007, 12:40:10 PM
think there's only money to be made between punters...
i.e someone giving you points in an even money bet???

el_cuervo ye's were up and at it early yesterday morning but tell me this....
wot was the goat thinkin runnin around with no top on, the state of him!!!  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 24, 2007, 12:47:52 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 24, 2007, 12:40:10 PM
think there's only money to be made between punters...
i.e someone giving you points in an even money bet???

el_cuervo ye's were up and at it early yesterday morning but tell me this....
wot was the goat thinkin runnin around with no top on, the state of him!!!  :D :D :D

Never noticed thank god.  I'd say it was a pretty sight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 24, 2007, 12:50:45 PM
i nearly crashed the car (again) i was laughin sooo hard!!!  :D
here B Gordan is in some nick is he not??? How he didnt get his place earlier in the year is beyond me considering some of the jackass' that did???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 24, 2007, 01:01:52 PM
were use trainin 9-3 or sumfin ridiculous lak that, el cuervo?? id say that was pleasant!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 24, 2007, 01:04:17 PM
If you can get the Og's +5pts that would be a decent bet, i would expect Cross to win by 3 or 4pts but they have to get beat sometime and as the years go on the better chance other teams have against them. The fact that the McEntee's are another year older and donaldson, Mcconville and so on i believe they will be beat in Armagh within the next 3 years.

The young lads coming in are good players but are not the same class as the old heads, the Og's have a good defence and if their attack can keep at it i think they're in with a fair chance. For me Aaron Kernan is what makes them tick and if he can be taken out ( Legitimately of course) then the Ogs have a chance
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 24, 2007, 01:08:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 24, 2007, 01:04:17 PM
If you can get the Og's +5pts that would be a decent bet, i would expect Cross to win by 3 or 4pts but they have to get beat sometime and as the years go on the better chance other teams have against them. The fact that the McEntee's are another year older and donaldson, Mcconville and so on i believe they will be beat in Armagh within the next 3 years.

The young lads coming in are good players but are not the same class as the old heads, the Og's have a good defence and if their attack can keep at it i think they're in with a fair chance. For me Aaron Kernan is what makes them tick and if he can be taken out ( Legitimately of course) then the Ogs have a chance
ha ha good man i'll decide..... ye are right though, a fair decent 'challenge' on Aaron Kernan should slow him down a bit!!! As molloy would say TWT...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 24, 2007, 01:13:42 PM
Why didnt you lot try that last year illdecide ;)

Lads bad form to be talking about taking a lad out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 24, 2007, 01:21:47 PM
Quote from: full back on September 24, 2007, 01:13:42 PM
Why didnt you lot try that last year illdecide ;)

Lads bad form to be talking about taking a lad out

I couldn't catch him (to fat and slow). I didn't mean "Daisy Hill" i'm just talking about a few good hits that take the wind out of your sails. I wouldn't wish or want any man to get hurt playing football. (Well if the PSNI were involved now thats a different situation ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 24, 2007, 01:26:21 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on September 24, 2007, 01:01:52 PM
were use trainin 9-3 or sumfin ridiculous lak that, el cuervo?? id say that was pleasant!!


all lies.  just the normal length of a session
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 24, 2007, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 23, 2007, 07:47:26 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 23, 2007, 06:35:08 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 23, 2007, 04:18:33 PM
ballymacnab beat the 'bridge by 2 points.
Dull enough game, we slept through most of it. We levelled it just as time was up, I thought we might steal it,  but Nab responded with a couple of injury time points. 

Looks like that is the end of the bridges promotion push after the nab defeated them and granemore beat yas last week to pints?? wat you think of game 2day after you stated earlier in the year we wer worst team in division??? does that make yous worst team in division now???  ;)
I think promotion hopes really ended when Killeavy beat us.  Considering we've been riddled with injuries all year, I don't think we've had a full squad to choose from for any game (6 missing today - a seventh off injured early in the second half), the youngsters did exceptionally well to keep in touch for so long and Killeavy and St. Pat's record in division 2 this year is outstanding. 
It's a pity they're dropping the heads now.
- I'm not making excuses when I talk about the injuries, in a strange way I think it's done us good.

The worst performance (or excuse for a performance) I've seen this year was Ballymacnab in the 'Bridge.

Charlie
Quotei see the bridge are slipping a bit . promotion gone nothing to play for. another year drifted by and nothing to show for it.
Dissapointing year but a lot of positives too. 

Pints was passing fordes the other day the new fields and lights look class, maybe next year with everybody on board you can push hard for an intermediate championship.

i hear big ryan hamills back in town, was he playing yesterday, or who all are you missing at this stage with these recent surprise defeats.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 24, 2007, 02:51:23 PM
Just checked the betting there.....
O'Neills at the shambles are offering Ogs + 6 points at even money???? think i'll be going for that?!?!?!?!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 24, 2007, 03:24:50 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 24, 2007, 02:51:23 PM
Just checked the betting there.....
O'Neills at the shambles are offering Ogs + 6 points at even money???? think i'll be going for that?!?!?!?!?

Lump on thats excellent. French bookies in Lurgan will prob be offering 3 or 4pts. 6pts is def a good bet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 24, 2007, 03:32:10 PM
I'll have to confirm this myself as im in work and sent the messenger boy in to get the betting!!
Sounds good to me but knowing my luck cross will win by 7 points r some shite like that....  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 24, 2007, 03:51:35 PM
I'm telling ya lads them bookies never get it far wrong they are the preferbial turks. There will be 6 points in the game and the handicap will be rid. Not only this but it will be an injury time point that rides us probably the last kick of the game. Once again the bookie will ride sally ride  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 24, 2007, 03:54:42 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 24, 2007, 03:51:35 PM
There will be 6 points in the game and the handicap will be rid.

Back the draw then ???
Title: Results & Tables
Post by: full back on September 24, 2007, 03:57:18 PM
From Orchard County:

Wednesday 19 September

ACL – Div. II
Clann Eireann 1-8; Carrickcruppen 1-13


Thursday 20 September

ACL - Div. I
Pearse Og v Dromintee (Off)

All-County 'B' League Final Replay
Carrickcruppen 1-6; Silverbridge 1-9


Sunday 23 September

ACL – Div. I
Mullaghbawn 2-9; Whitecross 1-13
Clan na Gael 1-9; Maghery 2-6
Tir na nOg 2-5; Culloville 1-13
Harps 0-6; Crossmaglen 1-10

ACL – Div. II
St Michael's 0-12; Clann Eireann 1-6
St Peter's 1-10; Granemore 0-13
Killeavey 1-15; Keady 0-11
Annaghmore v St Patrick's (Off)
Ballymacnab 0-14; Silverbridge 0-12
Carrickcruppen 1-17; Wolfe Tones 1-8

ACL – Div. III
Middletown 1-5; Collegeland 2-17
St Paul's 0-8; Crossmaglen II 0-10
Madden 1-15; Lissummon 0-8
Ballyhegan 0-9; An Port Mor 0-9
Clady 2-10; Sarsfields 1-14
Clonmore 0-12; Tullysaran 1-9

ACL – Div. IV
Mullaghbrack dnf Belleek w/o
Forkhill 0-15; Corrinshego 0-9
Derrynoose 2-11; Dorsey Emmett's 1-9
Phelim Brady's 0-7; Eire Og 1-15
Grange 1-11; Shane O'Neill's 0-8

All-County Under-14 League Final
Pearse Og 1-13; Shane O'Neill's 1-15 (aet)

All-County Under-16 League Final
Harps 2-12; Tir na nOg 4-9 (aet)



ARMAGH ACL TABLES - 2007

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 13 12 0 1 24
Pearse Og 14 9 1 4 19
Dromintee 13 8 1 4 17
Clan na Gael 16 7 3 6 17
Maghery 14 7 2 5 16
Harps 16 7 2 6 16
Mullaghbawn 17 7 2 8 16
Whitecross 16 6 0 10 12
Culloville 15 4 2 9 10
Tir na nÓg 16 1 1 14 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
St Patrick's 17 16 0 1 32
Killeavey 18 14 1 3 29
St Michael's 17 11 3 3 25
Silverbridge 18 11 1 6 23
Carrickcruppen 14 11 0 3 22
Ballymacnab 18 8 0 10 16
Granemore 17 7 1 9 15
Clann Eireann 16 7 0 9 14
Keady 17 5 1 11 11
Wolfe Tones 18 3 2 13 8
St Peter's 19 3 1 14 7
Annaghmore 17 2 0 15 4

Division III
P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 18 16 0 2 32
An Port Mor 18 14 1 3 29
Madden 18 14 0 4 28
Collegeland 18 13 1 4 27
Lissummon 18 8 2 8 18
Ballyhegan 18 7 1 10 15
Tullysaran 18 6 3 9 15
St Paul's 17 6 2 9 14
Clonmore 19 6 1 12 13
Crossmaglen II 17 4 1 12 9
Middletown 14 3 0 11 6
Clady 17 1 2 14 4

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Belleek 16 14 0 2 28
Grange 16 12 1 3 25
Derrynoose 16 10 2 4 22
Shane O'Neill's 15 9 2 4 20
Eire Og 16 10 0 6 20
Forkhill 17 9 1 7 19
Mullaghbrack 17 8 1 8 17
Dorsey Emmett's 17 7 2 8 16
O'Hanlon's 16 4 2 10 10
Corrinshego 18 2 1 15 5
Phelim Brady's 18 0 0 18 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 24, 2007, 06:08:09 PM
Dontcare
Quote
Pints was passing fordes the other day the new fields and lights look class, maybe next year with everybody on board you can push hard for an intermediate championship.
It does the heart good to look at it.  Fantastic, even if I am a little biased. 
Can't wait to see it in the dark - lights on of course. 
Opening on the 7th.

Quotei hear big ryan hamills back in town, was he playing yesterday, or who all are you missing at this stage with these recent surprise defeats.
Ryan's back, came on against Granemore but was on the injured list yesterday. 
yesterday we were missing...
Christopher Reel
Niall Reel
Rurai Murchan
Brendan Bellew (long term)
Gerard McGarvey
Hamill
Aidan Hearty off injured early in the second half. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 24, 2007, 11:58:15 PM
QuoteDivision II
P W D L Pts
St Patrick's 17 16 0 1 32
Killeavey 18 14 1 3 29
St Michael's 17 11 3 3 25
Silverbridge 18 11 1 6 23
Carrickcruppen 14 11 0 3 22

Is the cut off date the end of October?

Cruppen will do shocking well to get all their games played if it is since there's only 6 weekends left.

Still hopefully they get the games played and there's no excuses for anybody. We're fierce close to promotion at this stage. 2 wins out of 5 will do provided that 1 of them is against Killeavy and 3 out of 5 would make certain. Be devestating to collapse at this stage but anything could happen although St Pat's would have be confident. Mind you, I'm sure the Bridge would love nothing more than to stick a spanner in the works on Saturday evening. Dare I do a mid 90s Fergie and suggest we'll see an improved performance from the harps  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 25, 2007, 12:09:37 AM
Think you missed my point there altogether full back, by trying to be a smart ass. My point was that no matter what bet we do the bookies are lucky fookers and always have the upper hand on us. But once again we have village idiots like you trying to point out the obvious and trying to get one over on people grow up will ya.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on September 25, 2007, 01:06:58 AM
If the County final is tight going into the last quarter the Ogs will not get a call to go their way in the final quarter, the ref for this encounter will give Cross everything down the stretch so to me the Ogs are fecked whatever way you look at it.

the County needs a change and dare I say it. I hope the Ogs................................ on Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 25, 2007, 08:36:55 AM
Quote from: stew on September 25, 2007, 01:06:58 AM
If the County final is tight going into the last quarter the Ogs will not get a call to go their way in the final quarter, the ref for this encounter will give Cross everything down the stretch so to me the Ogs are fecked whatever way you look at it.

the County needs a change and dare I say it. I hope the Ogs................................ on Sunday.

Brendan Gorman is the ref, the Lurgan man should have no bias to anyone but in saying that none of them are meant to have any bias towards any team but thats not the way it goes. Like i said months ago ref's from different county's should be doing championship games and then no-one can complain as they will be totally nuteural, it wouldn't be that hard to set up the hardest thing about that is having to pay an extra £10 or £20 for expenses.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 25, 2007, 08:45:47 AM
Any fixture lists for this weekend available? I think it is all refixtures
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 25, 2007, 09:16:04 AM
I just hope the ref doesn't have too much of an influence on Sunday and blows up every little thing, hopefully he can keep his whistle in his pocket (i feckn hate a ref who loves the sound of his own whistle) ..................... wishful thinking on my behalf i think!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 25, 2007, 09:16:45 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 30 SEPTEMBER 2007


Saturday 29 September

ACL – Div. II (5.00)
Granemore v Keady (Paudie Hughes)
St Michael's v Carrickcruppen (Jimmy McKee)
Clann Eireann v Killeavey (Kevin Gallogly)

ACL – Div. III (5.00)
Crossmaglen II v St Paul's (Tony O'Hare)
Sarsfields v Middletown (Noel Martin)
Clady v Madden (Eamon Nugent)
Collegeland v An Port Mor (Stephen Murray)

ACL – Div. IV (5.00)
Derrynoose v Shane O'Neill's (Oliver Hearty)


Sunday 30 September

Armagh Senior Football Championship Final (3.45)
Crossmaglen v Pearse Og (Brendan Gorman) at Crossmaglen
Broadcast Live on FiveFM (100.5) and TG4

Armagh Minor Football Championship Final (2.30)
Granemore v St Patrick's (Gary Smith) at Crossmaglen

ACL – Div. II (12.00)
Annaghmore v St Peter's (Jim Burns)

ACL – Div. IV (5.30)
Belleek v Forkhill (Paul Rath)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on September 25, 2007, 10:14:04 AM
QuoteStill hopefully they get the games played and there's no excuses for anybody.
From what i can gather, the county board could hinder them as all Carrickcruppens refixtures have to be agreed by other team and if they dont want to play it then they dont have to and therefore 'Cruppens chances are limited.  Why couldn't the county board make other teams play if not then 'cruppen get the points, as (ard mhacha abu maybe can back me up here) & say off all games outstanding, none were called off by Carrickcruppen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 25, 2007, 10:39:58 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 25, 2007, 12:09:37 AM
Think you missed my point there altogether full back, by trying to be a smart ass. My point was that no matter what bet we do the bookies are lucky fookers and always have the upper hand on us. But once again we have village idiots like you trying to point out the obvious and trying to get one over on people grow up will ya.

So Im a village idiot for pointing out the obvious ::)
Its a long time since I heard a statement like 'bookies are lucky fookers and always have the upper hand on us'. Thats the sort of sh1t you would hear from 15 or 16 year olds.
Bookies odds are a matter of opinion - if your opinion differs from theirs then back it up by putting money on it, if not then stop yapping about it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 25, 2007, 11:01:56 AM
Brendan Gorman,

I remember the last county final between Ogs and Crosss and he was the ref,

thought he didnt have a good game, and wilted under the pressure from Cross as the ogs were 5 - 1 with 10 minutes left on the first half he give cross a serious amout of easy frees to get them back in the game

i just hope hes grown a set of balls for this sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 25, 2007, 11:07:04 AM
he's a dung-bag and there are defo a lot better in the county???
could Paul Boylan not referee it??? lol  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: upthecrups on September 25, 2007, 11:18:18 AM
Quote from: holylandsniper on September 25, 2007, 10:14:04 AM
QuoteStill hopefully they get the games played and there's no excuses for anybody.
From what i can gather, the county board could hinder them as all Carrickcruppens refixtures have to be agreed by other team and if they dont want to play it then they dont have to and therefore 'Cruppens chances are limited.  Why couldn't the county board make other teams play if not then 'cruppen get the points, as (ard mhacha abu maybe can back me up here) & say off all games outstanding, none were called off by Carrickcruppen.

Yes this is correct - one game was called off by ourselves due to a death in the club, can't mind which one but i think this has been replayed.
Two of the outstanding games were not cruppens fault - we travelled to keady, lined out and the referee failed to show.
We also lined out against annaghmore but they failed to appear, referee was there and the ball was threw in.  This match is down as a re fixture, you would think that two months after it the county board would have sorted this situation out, either we get the points or we don't.

The other fixtures we fell behind on were due to championship replays against Clan Eirean and Tir na Og.
These replays forfeited us the chance to play matches on the friday and sunday of these weekends.
Surely as the fixture pile up is not cruppens fault a bit of leway should be shown by the county board in reguard to getting fixtures played!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 25, 2007, 11:38:55 AM
Can anyone give me an insight as too what is happening in Divsion 4, Who is getting promoted?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 25, 2007, 11:45:54 AM
Think 3 or 4 games left in Div 4
Belleek are as good as promoted & should go up as champions (Mullabrack didnt field against them at the weekend)
Grange are 3 points clear in 2nd place & should join them in Div 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 25, 2007, 11:54:26 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 24, 2007, 11:58:15 PM
QuoteDivision II
P W D L Pts
St Patrick's 17 16 0 1 32
Killeavey 18 14 1 3 29
St Michael's 17 11 3 3 25
Silverbridge 18 11 1 6 23
Carrickcruppen 14 11 0 3 22

Is the cut off date the end of October?

Cruppen will do shocking well to get all their games played if it is since there's only 6 weekends left.

Still hopefully they get the games played and there's no excuses for anybody. We're fierce close to promotion at this stage. 2 wins out of 5 will do provided that 1 of them is against Killeavy and 3 out of 5 would make certain. Be devestating to collapse at this stage but anything could happen although St Pat's would have be confident. Mind you, I'm sure the Bridge would love nothing more than to stick a spanner in the works on Saturday evening. Dare I do a mid 90s Fergie and suggest we'll see an improved performance from the harps  ;)

I think cullyhanna have it in the bag now, except of course if Killeavy beat them and cruppin get all their games played it may leave it tight but i still think they will be in top division next year, the game on sat against the bridge isnt on so as you say they the Bridge would love nothing more than to stick a spanner in the works on Saturday evening wont happen,

I seen a add on tv yesterday saying the gaa are doing a show on thursday evening on Cross Rangers, anyone know what station and what time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on September 25, 2007, 12:08:34 PM
What is the situation with league games involving teams who are safe from relegation and cannot be promoted?  Will these outstanding fixtures be played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 25, 2007, 12:15:29 PM
Quote from: High Catch on September 25, 2007, 12:08:34 PM
What is the situation with league games involving teams who are safe from relegation and cannot be promoted?  Will these outstanding fixtures be played?

i think but not 100% that if the outstanding game is against a team who are fighting promotion or the possibility of going down a division you have to play them, if not there is probably no push on getting it re-fixed, not that fair of a way to do it as i feel all teams want as many games as possible.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 25, 2007, 01:35:41 PM
Quotecould Paul Boylan not referee it???

Apparently Paul was asked to do it but had to turn it down as he is working on Sunday.
He offered it to Sam McClatchey but Sam told him that he had to act as a steward at the game.
Jimmy McKee and Paudraig  Hughes could not be considered as both Cross and Og's are involved.
The only official available on Sunday was Mr Gorman thereby its him who will received the thirty quid.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 25, 2007, 04:55:09 PM
So would  be i right in saying that bookies who base their odds on other bookies odds are basing them on the opinions of others. Don't be so stupid of course bookies odds are not based on opinions you spoon. Are you saying form doesn't come into it or past records or home records ask yourself fullback. People who would punt a lot would know what i was getting at when i said the bookies have ya. It wasn't yapping it was light hearted digs at the bookie which i am entitled to do as a punters. I'll say no more on the issue as this is about football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 25, 2007, 05:02:25 PM
Is that all refs would get exile £30. For the abuse some of them receive i would tend to give them a bit more. I think Gorman will be ok on sunday he is a wee bit pernicady about wee stupid things but this may be a good thing. Although he has pre conditions about certain players. He hates Martin O rourke a this was plain as day in the replay game. The lad had to be raped before he got a free (not that it would have mattered)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on September 25, 2007, 06:08:42 PM
Just got a TXT to say the Ogs Cross game is on TG4 this weekend, has anyone heard of this, I know they showed the Tyrone final last year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 25, 2007, 06:10:32 PM
it on the main gaaboard section with separate thread
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 26, 2007, 08:26:28 AM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on September 25, 2007, 06:08:42 PM
Just got a TXT to say the Ogs Cross game is on TG4 this weekend, has anyone heard of this, I know they showed the Tyrone final last year.

coverage starts at 15:15 on TG4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 26, 2007, 08:41:16 AM
That documentary about Cross in on TV3 tomorrow night at 10:00pm as well, seen it advertised in the Irish News there. I'm looking forward to the final on Sunday, i think it will be a good game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 26, 2007, 08:46:53 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 26, 2007, 08:41:16 AM
That documentary about Cross in on TV3 tomorrow night at 10:00pm as well, seen it advertised in the Irish News there. I'm looking forward to the final on Sunday, i think it will be a good game.

It will hopefully be a good game and I dont think its gonna be the walk over that the bookies are predicting. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on September 26, 2007, 09:04:13 AM
Spirit or any of the rest of you's hurling men. Did you's venture to the county hurling final last saturday? What did you's think of it?

Regarding the county football final, I think it will be far from a walk in the park for Cross and think it will be a game that could go either way should the Ogs play to their potential.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 26, 2007, 10:53:35 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 26, 2007, 08:46:53 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 26, 2007, 08:41:16 AM
That documentary about Cross in on TV3 tomorrow night at 10:00pm as well, seen it advertised in the Irish News there. I'm looking forward to the final on Sunday, i think it will be a good game.

It will hopefully be a good game and I dont think its gonna be the walk over that the bookies are predicting. 

for whats it's worth neither do i, this one could go to the wire.

For me the Og's have 3 or 4 quality defenders with pace, hughes will battle away all day in midfield and up front Duffy and Co can cause problems for any team. It's just getting them to play together on the day
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on September 26, 2007, 11:01:00 AM
I hope you're right but I just can't see past Cross. If they are a head near the end they will close it out. They know how to win the big matches. If they are behind by a couple they know how to force their opponents into mistakes. I can only see a Cross win but I hope & pray I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 11:03:45 AM
Who is the biggest club rivals in Armagh? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 26, 2007, 11:50:38 AM

i think the ogs could give cross dificulties at the back. the have quite a few scoring options and if RC can contribute anythin like his best form he could cause a wreck at full forward. cross' full back line is very suspect without francie and for that reason i can't see them winning ulster this year.

hughes will battle away and give ogs parity in the middle but i really don't see the ogs holding cross in defence. in my mind, mallon is their only quaiity defender and he can only mark one at a time.

any truth in the rumour that donnelly might feature?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 26, 2007, 11:52:58 AM
I though RC was playing around the middle for the Og's?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 26, 2007, 12:21:11 PM
I think young mc coy is a decent enough defender on his day. He is like mallon in many respects he has a lot of pace and can get out in front most times he is also tanacious. He may lack in the height catagory but i can't imagine this being a problem if he is on mc namee for example. I think the ogs have a solid enough defense to cope with the cross style of play. mallon will almost certainly track oisin. If Mc conville can be successfully halted then Ogs are in with a good shout. As regardes the post on the greatest rivalry. You are talking Clans Cross or Og harps but there are many more like Clans and the peters ands i am sure Cullyhanna and silverbridge,  but it is impossible to say which one carries the most importance as they all have a healthy role to play in the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 26, 2007, 12:22:40 PM
i think donnelly is available to play but very unlikely that he will... and if R clarke is on it will probably be around the middle of the field.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 26, 2007, 12:37:51 PM
How is JP available to play, he still isn't transferred AFAIK ???

I expect the Ogs to run Cross very close, earlier in the year I had said they were the only team capable of beating them, but then they hit an awful run of form with horror shows against us in the league and the Nab and to a lesser extent Maghery.  Ogs are pretty strong allround, excellent tight defence, Gerard McCoy had been fantastic anytime I've seen him this year and could get a county call up with his current form.  Kieran Hughes needs a partner in MF, up front they beat MAghery without JJ Clarke and with Ronan at quarter pace for his 20mins, shorty Clarke was outstanding as was Gregory Loughran.  With Paul Grimley in training them this past fortnight, they'll not want for anything tactically or mentally.  The Og's defintely have a very strong chance and if they're +6 in the handicap they'd be worth a hefty bet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 12:39:47 PM
I think the Ogs will give have a dam good go at cross, They have been in their shadow this past years. Plus They are due a big performance, They struggled past Ballymacnab and Maghery, so they are long due  a good all round team performance. having been at those 2 games mentioned. there were a number of good individual perfomances. e.g G Loughran and Shorty Clarke, but to beat cross they are going to have to play well as a team 1 to 15,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 26, 2007, 12:41:45 PM
how did donnelly manage to get the transfer through given that harps opposed it?

mallon tracking mcconville would be a waste. oisin contributes very little these days from play and avoiding frees is the best way to nullify his usual heavy scoring.

has clarke been comingon round the middle? edge of the square is the best spot for him on sunday.

on the club rivalries, most of the traditional ones arewell off the boil. i'm sure ogs - harps and the bridge - cullyhanna would probably be the two now given they are competing on even footings.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 26, 2007, 12:51:14 PM
Against the Nab RC came on in FF likewise against Maghery but I think he was moved out round the middle in the closing stages.

I think the Ogs boys have realised that they didn't play to well against either the Nab or Maghery and will no doubt be looking to give everything they've got on Sunday. It'll take from 1-20 to be on top form to beat Cross like its already been said here Cross have a knack of grinding out close encounters and I expect this game to be very close.

Anyone else feel McConville could be easily wound up about his gambling antics?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 26, 2007, 12:54:50 PM
Quote from: BenDover on September 26, 2007, 12:51:14 PM
Anyone else feel McConville could be easily wound up about his gambling antics?

It wouldnt be the first time someone has tried to wind him up & not too many have been successful thus far
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 26, 2007, 12:59:00 PM
I'll agree with you there fullback but alls it takes it the littlest thing to hit a nerve
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 26, 2007, 01:32:18 PM
Quote from: Uladh on September 26, 2007, 11:50:38 AM

any truth in the rumour that donnelly might feature?

I don't think JP has his transfer through
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 02:18:02 PM
The ogs boys tols me that JPs tansfer is definetly through, He was on line against Maghery, but he will not feature at any stage because he is still on the road back from Injury
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 26, 2007, 02:24:46 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 02:18:02 PM
The ogs boys tols me that JPs tansfer is definetly through, He was on line against Maghery, but he will not feature at any stage because he is still on the road back from Injury

What a load of rubbish
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 02:29:45 PM
Im telling you, He was on the line against Maghery, not sure if he was togged out or not but he was definetly there along with the team, And he will be there again on Sunday, In fact i would nearly go as far as saying that he may be available for selection, the word is that he is over the worst and that his fitness is spot on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 26, 2007, 02:33:14 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 02:29:45 PM
Im telling you, He was on the line against Maghery, not sure if he was togged out or not but he was definetly there along with the team, And he will be there again on Sunday, In fact i would nearly go as far as saying that he may be available for selection, the word is that he is over the worst and that his fitness is spot on

when did he get his transfer then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 02:34:45 PM
I Think it came through last week
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 26, 2007, 02:36:22 PM
how would that have made him available to play against Maghery then?

Quote from: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 02:34:45 PM
I Think it came through last week
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 02:40:24 PM
I didnt say that he was available to play against Maghery, I said that he was along with the team and on the line, there is a difference!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 26, 2007, 02:48:35 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 02:40:24 PM
I didnt say that he was available to play against Maghery, I said that he was along with the team and on the line, there is a difference!

I'll let you away with it just this once then.  ;)

Still think ur wrong about the transfer though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 02:54:27 PM
Im not an Ogs man, but i see you are coz you have the there crest on your name badge, lift the phone and ring someone, they will just confirm to you what i just said
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 26, 2007, 03:00:37 PM
Onion Bag, do you have the inside track on the transfer?
Seems you know more than the Og's lads on this :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 03:06:29 PM
Dont have the inside track, its just what i was told, He is available for selection come sunday, and i know he was definetly standing on the line against Maghery coz i seen him with my own eyes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on September 26, 2007, 03:08:30 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 02:18:02 PM
The ogs boys tols me that JPs tansfer is definetly through, He was on line against Maghery, but he will not feature at any stage because he is still on the road back from Injury

pile of crap Onion
his transfer isn't through  - he's only training with the boys  - transfer is being held up somewhere in admin I heard for reasons "unknown" typical county board crap.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 26, 2007, 03:11:06 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on September 26, 2007, 03:08:30 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 02:18:02 PM
The ogs boys tols me that JPs tansfer is definetly through, He was on line against Maghery, but he will not feature at any stage because he is still on the road back from Injury

pile of crap Onion
his transfer isn't through  - he's only training with the boys  - transfer is being held up somewhere in admin I heard for reasons "unknown" typical county board crap.

the issue is with croke park now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 03:23:06 PM
Listen Lads, It is possible that it is a load of crap, but im only posting what i was told, Lets just forget about the topic!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: john mcgill on September 26, 2007, 05:13:17 PM
The Ogs have made a great job of decorating the ring road.  Good luck to them on Sunday. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on September 26, 2007, 06:15:39 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 26, 2007, 03:11:06 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on September 26, 2007, 03:08:30 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 26, 2007, 02:18:02 PM
The ogs boys tols me that JPs tansfer is definetly through, He was on line against Maghery, but he will not feature at any stage because he is still on the road back from Injury

pile of crap Onion
his transfer isn't through  - he's only training with the boys  - transfer is being held up somewhere in admin I heard for reasons "unknown" typical county board crap.

the issue is with croke park now

crow-k park? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 26, 2007, 09:04:05 PM
The Ogs Chairman was complaining in yesterdays Irish Star about the county final being played in Cross.
Was he having us on or could he be serious?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 26, 2007, 11:10:30 PM
Why would he not be serious? we have had this debate about where the final should be held.  Bendover i like the way you are thinking pal about winding mc conville up about his gambling. But i would nearly say he would have a small wager on th ogs + 6 he wouldn't let this one get away  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 27, 2007, 07:30:23 AM
Is there any odds on mcconville getting sent off on sunday

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on September 27, 2007, 07:38:26 AM
The betting for the weekends match is up on Ladbrokes but nothing for the SFC Final ?? Why? Is it still on TG4?

http://www.ladbrokes.com/lbr_portal (http://www.ladbrokes.com/lbr_portal)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 27, 2007, 07:57:46 AM
www.boylesports.com

cross 1/5
draw 9/1
ogs 9/2

match is on tng4 i believe
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 27, 2007, 09:15:50 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 26, 2007, 11:10:30 PM
Why would he not be serious? we have had this debate about where the final should be held.  Bendover i like the way you are thinking pal about winding mc conville up about his gambling. But i would nearly say he would have a small wager on th ogs + 6 he wouldn't let this one get away  :D

Well the Ogs do have a few WUM's within the ranks who would love nothing more than to see McConville strike out and get the line. Lol if only i could get the Ogs +6, he'll be doing his best to make sure it stays close then  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on September 27, 2007, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: BenDover on September 27, 2007, 09:15:50 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 26, 2007, 11:10:30 PM
Why would he not be serious? we have had this debate about where the final should be held.  Bendover i like the way you are thinking pal about winding mc conville up about his gambling. But i would nearly say he would have a small wager on th ogs + 6 he wouldn't let this one get away  :D

Well the Ogs do have a few WUM's within the ranks who would love nothing more than to see McConville strike out and get the line. Lol if only i could get the Ogs +6, he'll be doing his best to make sure it stays close then  ;)


Ben Even if he does strike out Gorman wont have the balls to put him to the line. I think he did the final in '95, I was only 13 but as far as I remember he made a total balls of it, some older Harps lads can clarify that. McConville headbutted Raffo a few years ago and Dessie Henderson Shit himself.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2007, 09:37:52 AM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on September 27, 2007, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: BenDover on September 27, 2007, 09:15:50 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 26, 2007, 11:10:30 PM
Why would he not be serious? we have had this debate about where the final should be held.  Bendover i like the way you are thinking pal about winding mc conville up about his gambling. But i would nearly say he would have a small wager on th ogs + 6 he wouldn't let this one get away  :D

Well the Ogs do have a few WUM's within the ranks who would love nothing more than to see McConville strike out and get the line. Lol if only i could get the Ogs +6, he'll be doing his best to make sure it stays close then  ;)


Ben Even if he does strike out Gorman wont have the balls to put him to the line. I think he did the final in '95, I was only 13 but as far as I remember he made a total balls of it, some older Harps lads can clarify that. McConville headbutted Raffo a few years ago and Dessie Henderson Shit himself.

true true.  but sure he got a yellow card for it. crazy refereeing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 10:28:42 AM
I was actually at that game in keady, and Mc Conville definetly head butted Raffo, The ball went over the end line for a Cross 45, and raffo had the ball in his hands, mc Conville head butted him, took the ball of him,  got booked, and then took the 45 and put it over the bar, The ref really did shit himself that day, Disgrace!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 27, 2007, 10:36:09 AM
Was that the day it was a draw & Campbell was clean through against Hearty & went for a point and hit the post?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 10:47:08 AM
Think it is the same day alright, but i dont think it was Campbell, I think it was Shorty Clarke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2007, 10:50:37 AM
Quote from: full back on September 27, 2007, 10:36:09 AM
Was that the day it was a draw & Campbell was clean through against Hearty & went for a point and hit the post?

It was in the replay that mcconville beat butted raffo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on September 27, 2007, 11:09:13 AM
The headbutt was defo the replay, in the drawn match Donal Murtagh was lording it in midfield unitl he got the injury that ended his career, it was then all ogs for the last 20 mins, the ref blew time on the button when there was at least 5 mins injury time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 27, 2007, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 26, 2007, 11:10:30 PM
Why would he not be serious? we have had this debate about where the final should be held.  Bendover i like the way you are thinking pal about winding mc conville up about his gambling. But i would nearly say he would have a small wager on th ogs + 6 he wouldn't let this one get away  :D

winding someone up about an addiction would be quite sad, i think he has been through a lot and the og's boys would have a little more respect, epically when some of them play county along with him and get on well.

as for odds on him getting sent off, forget about it, Oisin is not really a dirty player, a few records of so called head butt, etc but in general i think he has a clean slate and just good football, has he ever let us down with the county and got sent off , no??
I would be very surprised if Oisin does hit out on sunday no matter what was said, think he should score 6 approx points sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 27, 2007, 12:55:25 PM
Quote from: dontcare on September 27, 2007, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 26, 2007, 11:10:30 PM
Why would he not be serious? we have had this debate about where the final should be held.  Bendover i like the way you are thinking pal about winding mc conville up about his gambling. But i would nearly say he would have a small wager on th ogs + 6 he wouldn't let this one get away  :D

winding someone up about an addiction would be quite sad, i think he has been through a lot and the og's boys would have a little more respect, epically when some of them play county along with him and get on well.
as for odds on him getting sent off, forget about it, Oisin is not really a dirty player, a few records of so called head butt, etc but in general i think he has a clean slate and just good football, has he ever let us down with the county and got sent off , no??
I would be very surprised if Oisin does hit out on sunday no matter what was said, think he should score 6 approx points sunday.

once ye start giving boys like oisin respect on the field your beat!!! get stuck into them like they were just joe bloggs and worry about the respect when the match is over.....  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 27, 2007, 01:14:56 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 27, 2007, 12:55:25 PM
Quote from: dontcare on September 27, 2007, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 26, 2007, 11:10:30 PM
Why would he not be serious? we have had this debate about where the final should be held.  Bendover i like the way you are thinking pal about winding mc conville up about his gambling. But i would nearly say he would have a small wager on th ogs + 6 he wouldn't let this one get away  :D

winding someone up about an addiction would be quite sad, i think he has been through a lot and the og's boys would have a little more respect, epically when some of them play county along with him and get on well.
as for odds on him getting sent off, forget about it, Oisin is not really a dirty player, a few records of so called head butt, etc but in general i think he has a clean slate and just good football, has he ever let us down with the county and got sent off , no??
I would be very surprised if Oisin does hit out on sunday no matter what was said, think he should score 6 approx points sunday.

once ye start giving boys like oisin respect on the field your beat!!! get stuck into them like they were just joe bloggs and worry about the respect when the match is over.....  :-\

i know what ya mean but i mean dont stoop so low to nag him about gambling
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2007, 01:19:55 PM
Quote from: dontcare on September 27, 2007, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 26, 2007, 11:10:30 PM
Why would he not be serious? we have had this debate about where the final should be held.  Bendover i like the way you are thinking pal about winding mc conville up about his gambling. But i would nearly say he would have a small wager on th ogs + 6 he wouldn't let this one get away  :D

winding someone up about an addiction would be quite sad, i think he has been through a lot and the og's boys would have a little more respect, epically when some of them play county along with him and get on well.

as for odds on him getting sent off, forget about it, Oisin is not really a dirty player, a few records of so called head butt, etc but in general i think he has a clean slate and just good football, has he ever let us down with the county and got sent off , no??
I would be very surprised if Oisin does hit out on sunday no matter what was said, think he should score 6 approx points sunday.

I can't see any of the boys stooping to that.  I think they'll be more interested in concentrating on the game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 27, 2007, 02:27:31 PM
Quote from: dontcare on September 27, 2007, 12:51:06 PM
winding someone up about an addiction would be quite sad, i think he has been through a lot and the og's boys would have a little more respect, epically when some of them play county along with him and get on well.

Like Candyman i think if you're gona have any respect for the Cross boys ur as good as beat before you step out onto the field! Get tore in from the start and worry about reputations after the games over.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 27, 2007, 02:36:55 PM
Quote from: BenDover on September 27, 2007, 02:27:31 PM
Quote from: dontcare on September 27, 2007, 12:51:06 PM
winding someone up about an addiction would be quite sad, i think he has been through a lot and the og's boys would have a little more respect, epically when some of them play county along with him and get on well.

Like Candyman i think if you're gona have any respect for the Cross boys ur as good as beat before you step out onto the field! Get tore in from the start and worry about reputations after the games over.

i have been picked up wrong, i mean repect in a different way, no player goes out respecting the enemy on the field. what is kick off time?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2007, 02:39:23 PM
15:45 i think
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 02:45:28 PM
OK enough about the county final, we can discuss that on monday, What else is fresh round the various clubs? does anoyne know is the Granemore V Keady game still on saturday evening, coz Granemore are in the minor final on sunday against Cullyhana, as the curtain raiser for the big game, Can Granemore call this game off? There is bound to be fire works at that if it is still on, there is no love lost between Keady and Granemore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2007, 02:51:10 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 02:45:28 PM
OK enough about the county final, we can discuss that on monday, What else is fresh round the various clubs? does anoyne know is the Granemore V Keady game still on saturday evening, coz Granemore are in the minor final on sunday against Cullyhana, as the curtain raiser for the big game, Can Granemore call this game off? There is bound to be fire works at that if it is still on, there is no love lost between Keady and Granemore

You're good craic.  What's wrong with people goin on about the county final.  It is supposed to be the showpiece for armagh football
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 02:58:13 PM
I think everything is said that has to be said. Im looking forward to it, and couldnt agree more with you that it is the show piece of Armagh football. But i was just looking for a change of subject
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2007, 03:02:00 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 02:58:13 PM
I think everything is said that has to be said. Im looking forward to it, and couldnt agree more with you that it is the show piece of Armagh football. But i was just looking for a change of subject

In that case It could be nearly time for predictions then.

I'll go for the Ogs to win by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 27, 2007, 03:12:12 PM
il take cross by 5, just close enough to let candyman double his money!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 27, 2007, 03:13:56 PM
Frig it I'll take the Ogs to win by 1

and I'll take Mel Hughes Offering of the Ogs +4 @ 4/5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 27, 2007, 03:15:35 PM
ah good man hank... a gent as ever!!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2007, 03:15:53 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on September 27, 2007, 03:12:12 PM
il take cross by 5, just close enough to let candyman double his money!!

Surely!! sure keep it in the family  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 27, 2007, 03:18:29 PM
I'll take cross by 2 points!! Ogs will run them tight but cross will kick two security points in the last few mins....  :o
(el cuervo and Ben Dover hope im wrong!!! :D)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 27, 2007, 03:18:57 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 02:45:28 PM
OK enough about the county final, we can discuss that on monday, What else is fresh round the various clubs? does anoyne know is the Granemore V Keady game still on saturday evening, coz Granemore are in the minor final on sunday against Cullyhana, as the curtain raiser for the big game, Can Granemore call this game off? There is bound to be fire works at that if it is still on, there is no love lost between Keady and Granemore

WTF - lets stop talking about the County final & talk about Keady & Granemore ???
Have you been sniffing glue?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 27, 2007, 03:19:57 PM
el cuervo that family have high standards and are hard to keep.... not peasants like myself!!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on September 27, 2007, 03:27:45 PM
Cullyhana by 5
Ogs Cross 1-10 to 1-10

You heard it hear 1st-Draw
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2007, 03:30:03 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on September 27, 2007, 03:27:45 PM
Cullyhana by 5
Ogs Cross 1-10 to 1-10

You heard it hear 1st-Draw

I knew u'd be about, seen u working hard about bebo there  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 27, 2007, 03:32:31 PM
U musta been working hard yourself if you seen him on Bebo!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on September 27, 2007, 03:34:17 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2007, 03:30:03 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on September 27, 2007, 03:27:45 PM
Cullyhana by 5
Ogs Cross 1-10 to 1-10

You heard it hear 1st-Draw

I knew u'd be about, seen u working hard about bebo there  ;)

its my last day tomorrow, so not much being done by the skinny one today or tomorrow, Then 2 weeks off to recharge the aul batteries, then new job here I come and no more days lounging about this board, il pop in the odd time, how about a leaving do on Sunday night!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 27, 2007, 03:37:47 PM
New Job?? Who in their right mind would do such a thing, St Luke's  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on September 27, 2007, 03:40:57 PM
Not that bad Ben, looks like your busy this afternoon, Any emigrations to America planned this Winter ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 03:44:05 PM
My heart wants the Ogs to win but I honestly cant see anything other than a cross win, Not a hammering but by 1 or 2 points, Hope im wrong though,



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 27, 2007, 03:44:23 PM
not this winter smart man, but I'll be heading to central america next June for 2weeks does that count?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 03:48:01 PM
FULL BACK,

Think you have too much time on your hands, 1921 Posts and a Hero member, maybe you are the one that is lying in work or home or where ever it is you hang out, sniffing glue
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 27, 2007, 03:50:45 PM
Fcuk off back under the stone you crawled from onion bag
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 03:52:08 PM
C'mon, its only a bit of light hearted slagging full back, no need to be so Nasty :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2007, 03:53:07 PM
Quote from: BenDover on September 27, 2007, 03:32:31 PM
U musta been working hard yourself if you seen him on Bebo!!

I'm on wind down mode now til the match on sunday.  don't need the stress
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 27, 2007, 03:53:17 PM
Yeah Yeah Yeah
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 03:55:41 PM
I'm on wind down mode now til the match on sunday.  don't need the stress

Any chance of a job in your place, "Winding down on a thursday Aftenoon"!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2007, 03:58:53 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 03:55:41 PM
I'm on wind down mode now til the match on sunday.  don't need the stress

Any chance of a job in your place, "Winding down on a thursday Aftenoon"!

It's been like this most of the week.  Cant beat the easy life.  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 27, 2007, 04:05:11 PM
You have been winding down since you left qub
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2007, 04:07:32 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on September 27, 2007, 04:05:11 PM
You have been winding down since you left qub

You're one to talk. Sri Lanka next is it? :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 27, 2007, 04:09:03 PM
No chance, sure look what happened the last time i dive of the pier
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2007, 04:13:16 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on September 27, 2007, 04:09:03 PM
No chance, sure look what happened the last time i dive of the pier

It's just all swings and roundabouts then
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 27, 2007, 04:14:59 PM
Thats Quantity Surveyor talk, i will make no comment on them!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 04:17:54 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 03:55:41 PM
I'm on wind down mode now til the match on sunday.  don't need the stress

Any chance of a job in your place, "Winding down on a thursday Aftenoon"!

There will be some winding down done next week round red neds if the title comes back to mid Armagh on sunday evening
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 27, 2007, 04:21:09 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2007, 03:02:00 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 02:58:13 PM
I think everything is said that has to be said. Im looking forward to it, and couldnt agree more with you that it is the show piece of Armagh football. But i was just looking for a change of subject

In that case It could be nearly time for predictions then.

I'll go for the Ogs to win by 2

i will have cross by 7

think cross will get 2 goals and og's 1 goal
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2007, 04:21:49 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 04:17:54 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2007, 03:55:41 PM
I'm on wind down mode now til the match on sunday.  don't need the stress

Any chance of a job in your place, "Winding down on a thursday Aftenoon"!

There will be some winding down done next week round red neds if the title comes back to mid Armagh on sunday evening

there'll definitely not be much posts from me next week anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 27, 2007, 05:20:14 PM
Where is red neds. surely if the ogs win it there will be a night in their own club?????????? and this red neds would be a distant hangout for maybe the following thursday or friday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 27, 2007, 05:28:04 PM
WIN SAM SOON

I can understand your club or Drumintee complaining about having to play a county final in Cross, but it's a bit rich coming from the Ogs Chairman seeing that they have played more county finals on their own pitch than Cross have,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 27, 2007, 05:48:37 PM
Quote from: full back on September 27, 2007, 03:50:45 PM
Fcuk off back under the stone you crawled from onion bag
And you talk about me?  :-\

onionbag, I wouldn't worry about fullback, he's a knob if ever there was one.


on the county final
I predict a dull, boring game, the ogs will be dissapointing, cross will be superior all over the field and will win easily.
:-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on September 27, 2007, 07:22:50 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2007, 05:28:04 PM
WIN SAM SOON

I can understand your club or Drumintee complaining about having to play a county final in Cross, but it's a bit rich coming from the Ogs Chairman seeing that they have played more county finals on their own pitch than Cross have,

The Og's dont own the athletic grounds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on September 27, 2007, 07:26:37 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 27, 2007, 05:48:37 PM
Quote from: full back on September 27, 2007, 03:50:45 PM
Fcuk off back under the stone you crawled from onion bag
And you talk about me?  :-\

onionbag, I wouldn't worry about fullback, he's a knob if ever there was one.


on the county final
I predict a dull, boring game, the ogs will be dissapointing, cross will be superior all over the field and will win easily.
:-\
\

I dont know about that pog. The Ogs are up for this and I think they could shock Cross. A lot depends on how fit clarke is, if he can go full tilt I think they can win it. We shall see. A draw might not be a bad bet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 27, 2007, 09:28:12 PM
The Ogs may not have owned the Athletic Grounds but it was their "home ground" for years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on September 27, 2007, 09:42:04 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2007, 09:28:12 PM
The Ogs may not have owned the Athletic Grounds but it was their "home ground" for years.
Correct.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on September 27, 2007, 10:07:14 PM
The athletic grounds was never Ogs or Harps home. it was the county ground. Theres a big difference. hope we have a good county ground son because playin at cross is not fair to any body.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 28, 2007, 08:15:42 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2007, 09:28:12 PM
The Ogs may not have owned the Athletic Grounds but it was their "home ground" for years.

And did cross not ever object to playing the Ogs in the Athletic grounds?  I think you'll find they did
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 28, 2007, 10:03:37 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 27, 2007, 05:48:37 PM
onionbag, I wouldn't worry about fullback, he's a knob if ever there was one.

Pot, kettle, black
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 28, 2007, 10:52:34 AM
Ahh full back just when POG was keeping it quiet with all his bickering
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 28, 2007, 10:56:00 AM
I know ben dover, sticking his nose in again ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: jungle on September 28, 2007, 11:16:00 AM
Would like to see a new club winning the championship but cross hate the ogs especially oisin and think they will be up to blow them away and will succeed imo.

cross by 5 +
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 28, 2007, 11:23:27 AM

Unfortunately i have to go along with POG's assessment of how the final will go.

the cruppen game will probably be a blueprint for how the game will develop. a good contest for 40 minutes at which time cross will probably kick clear.

Cross by 4 or 5.

hope not of course!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 28, 2007, 01:25:47 PM
any nerves setting in elcuervo?.... i went to toals there and the ogs are in to 7/2 with cross back to 1/5... no handicap betting.
maybe oisin has had a flutter on the ogs!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 28, 2007, 01:27:09 PM
Lads  easy easy, there's no call for this slagging with each other. We are all adult men here!!!

Anyway i believe that this is the year that Cross will loose their grip on the championship, i'm going for Cross 0-13 Og's 1-11. And as long as the best team on the day wins and nobody dies then i don't care who wins as i have no leigons to either club ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 28, 2007, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: full back on September 28, 2007, 10:56:00 AM
I know ben dover, sticking his nose in again ;)

Who says POG is a HE, isnt that right Ms POG???????????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 28, 2007, 01:32:45 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on September 28, 2007, 01:25:47 PM
any nerves setting in elcuervo?.... i went to toals there and the ogs are in to 7/2 with cross back to 1/5... no handicap betting.
maybe oisin has had a flutter on the ogs!! ;)

No nerves yet.  Wouldn't generally get nervous before a game anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 28, 2007, 01:41:20 PM
Quote from: dontcare on September 28, 2007, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: full back on September 28, 2007, 10:56:00 AM
I know ben dover, sticking his nose in again ;)

Who says POG is a HE, isnt that right Ms POG???????????????????????????????????????
Yup, *fixes bra straps*


Fullback, run along and play with the cars, there's a good boy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 28, 2007, 01:45:24 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 28, 2007, 01:41:20 PM
Fullback, run along and play with the cars, there's a good boy.

Off course pog off course ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 28, 2007, 01:59:05 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 28, 2007, 01:41:20 PM
Quote from: dontcare on September 28, 2007, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: full back on September 28, 2007, 10:56:00 AM
I know ben dover, sticking his nose in again ;)

Who says POG is a HE, isnt that right Ms POG???????????????????????????????????????
Yup, *fixes bra straps*


Fullback, run along and play with the cars, there's a good boy.

Pints i think i have hit a nerve there/>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>?????????????????????????????????/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 28, 2007, 02:06:58 PM
To win on Sunday I think Cross are going to have to go about it differently.
IMHO if the Og's can stick with Cross for 40mins they will give it one massive push unlike other teams who have capitulated in the last third of the game.
I think Cross recognise that sooner or later a late surge in the game wont be enough. Cross to come out firing on all cylinders on Sunday & have the Ogs out of sight by halftime.
Being a neutral I hope this doesnt happen & we get a good tight game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 28, 2007, 02:25:55 PM
whose playing in the minor match on sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 28, 2007, 02:41:31 PM
Granemore and Cullyhana are in the MFC
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on September 28, 2007, 03:12:13 PM
Good luck to the Ogs - I'd love them to win it this year - I know there has been a lot of expectations in the camp this year with the current squad and a great team spirit.  You's deserve it.  Good luck El Cuervo from your old mate, now in the U.S!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on September 28, 2007, 03:32:12 PM
Good luck to the Ogs on Sunday,

I'll take a cracking game to liven up the club scene in the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 28, 2007, 03:59:33 PM
Good luck Ogs, Hope you do it! the whole county is behind you  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 28, 2007, 04:05:01 PM
Good luck to the Ogs, hopefully I'll be meeting ye's after for a few quiet celebratory beers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 28, 2007, 04:18:14 PM
Good luck to the cross and the ogs on sunday and there is no doubt the best team will win. Good luck lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 28, 2007, 04:19:05 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 28, 2007, 03:59:33 PM
Good luck Ogs, Hope you do it! the whole county is behind you  ;)

Not sure if the whole county is behind them but a lot of people would like a change,
credit where credit is due to cross and would like to see 12 in a row as much as i would like a change.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on September 28, 2007, 05:54:44 PM
I think if Cross can sustain the mental attitude to keep on winning then they deserve it. I don't want change for changes sake, but if the Ogs are good enough to overcome Cross fair play to them. Mental attitude/tiredness is the only thing I feel could beat Cross as it's bound to be very hard to maintain. Especially as I feel a lot of this team have never lost a championship and although that can be good, they don't know the hurt of loosing one.

I'll go to it and hope it's as good a game as I think it could be it both team play, but I just hope it's more entertaining than last years non-event. That's no disrespect to Clans by the way, but they were never gonna win (in my opinion).
Title: Re: Official Armagh Website
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 28, 2007, 09:11:39 PM
QuoteLast Update 27/07/2007

Taken today from the Official Armagh Website

Title: Re: Official Armagh Website
Post by: Orior on September 28, 2007, 09:32:55 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on September 28, 2007, 09:11:39 PM
QuoteLast Update 27/07/2007

Taken today from the Official Armagh Website



Its still pish then.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 28, 2007, 09:50:12 PM
Any of you Ogs men at the big challenge match last weekend.....Ogs v Armagh All Stars ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 29, 2007, 12:08:42 PM
Reliably informed that JP's transfer went through last night, unfortunately for Ogs, he has to wait 3 days before he can play for them!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 29, 2007, 02:10:43 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 29, 2007, 12:08:42 PM
Reliably informed that JP's transfer went through last night, unfortunately for Ogs, he has to wait 3 days before he can play for them!

i think jp is a great player but for a transfer  to come through on the friday before a county final is shouldnt make a difference if he can play or not as he has not trained all winter with them or played any games so even though he is good he wouldn't in my opinion deserve a place on first 15 or sub in a county final, maybe if they progress, but i dont think they will this year anyhow, i know i could be eating my words come monday but i think tomorrow will be a great game of football but i think a class second half from cross and they should win well in the end. in saying that cross have a good record of draws when you dont expect it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: deadeyedick on September 29, 2007, 04:03:19 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 29, 2007, 12:08:42 PM
Reliably informed that JP's transfer went through last night, unfortunately for Ogs, he has to wait 3 days before he can play for them!

Did Harps approve it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 29, 2007, 04:19:10 PM
no
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 29, 2007, 09:00:48 PM
Any results from this evening's games?
Keady were defeated by Granemore.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 29, 2007, 09:01:38 PM
I am eagerly waiting on the next person saying that members on this site are not anti cross  :D :D. It is quite clear from all the post wishing the ogs good luck that the is a particular jealousy eating at some of you. The way i see it is that if my on club are not in the final, i wish both teams good luck and hope for an entertaining game. I don't post good luck messages to one team in the interest of "change" because change will only come about if another team are worthy enough to Bring it about. I have seen very few messages wishing the cross goodluck and to me this is appauling and not in the best interest of sport. Once again i wish both sets of players all the best tommorrow in the final and i hope they represent both clubs and county well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 29, 2007, 10:18:54 PM
Thanks win sam soon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on September 30, 2007, 09:23:59 AM
Is the county match going to be broadcasted on the internet?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 30, 2007, 10:38:21 AM
Why would you find this appauling ABBLE  :P

It would be good to see someone else win the championship


Also Cross have had there fair share of luck in retaining the championship down the years and people on the board who have played against them will back me up on this and the fact that the majority of refs in Armagh crap themselves when they referee Cross in a championship match which includes todays fine custodian
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on September 30, 2007, 10:46:33 AM
What time is both the minor and senior games at? Thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 30, 2007, 11:22:33 AM
Armagh Senior Football Championship Final (3.45)
Crossmaglen v Pearse Og (Brendan Gorman) at Crossmaglen
Broadcast Live on FiveFM (100.5) and TG4

Armagh Minor Football Championship Final (2.30)
Granemore v St Patrick's (Gary Smith) at Crossmaglen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on September 30, 2007, 12:23:47 PM
Thanks pints.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: johnnylogan on September 30, 2007, 01:10:09 PM
ANY RESULTS FROM YESTERDAY
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewingedlady on September 30, 2007, 02:23:10 PM
Any word on how big Alan O'Neill is after the injury he got at Abbey Park? Heard yesterday that he's been off work since it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on September 30, 2007, 03:25:52 PM
hes back at work.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on September 30, 2007, 03:28:30 PM
Minor final result a draw, Granemore 1-05 St Pat's Cullyhanna 1-05
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: southdown on September 30, 2007, 03:29:35 PM
Live now on tg4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on September 30, 2007, 03:32:08 PM
Sure you could watch it turned down and have Tigger on the radio doing the commentary!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ziggysego on September 30, 2007, 03:37:12 PM
Watch the Armagh Senior County Final here, live

http://www.tg4.tv/ (http://www.tg4.tv/)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ziggysego on September 30, 2007, 03:38:34 PM
What poll?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cloc Mor on September 30, 2007, 03:45:25 PM
Whats the odds on Oisin getting the first score?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cloc Mor on September 30, 2007, 03:49:14 PM
Ah shit, another bet lost.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 30, 2007, 03:51:06 PM
I've took Cross minus five here, immediately regretted it after doing the bet!! Cross will win but only just!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on September 30, 2007, 04:58:50 PM
57 minutes gone. Cross pulling away.

Cross 0-12 0-5 Pearse Og

Kieran McGeeny in the crowd!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stiffler on September 30, 2007, 05:05:08 PM
Cross win 12  6. well done wee greasy!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 30, 2007, 05:18:01 PM
Just about scraped in there!

Was good to see!

Least I've a sweat for later now....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gold on September 30, 2007, 05:24:53 PM
should there be more than one team in cross??

is the town and population not big enough for 2 senior teams?

anyone else think this should be the case and the same for Enniskillen where the gaels are the only team in a massive gaa playin population

Is there any other way to stop Cross's dominence?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 30, 2007, 05:26:39 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 30, 2007, 05:37:01 PM
Well done to Cross, hard luck to the Ogs. 
The game was pretty much what I expected though the Ogs put it up to cross in the first half, I was thinking they couldn't keep up the pace and I was right.  Ogs were very good defensively but had no one up front. 
John Murtagh is a very silly boy.  Ogs player that stamped in the first half a very lucky boy! 
I thought the ref was poor enough, for both teams.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on September 30, 2007, 05:43:27 PM
I actually thought the Ogs were lucky enough to be in it for so long. Rangers' shooting in the first half was terrible, and the Ogs were indebted to Ciaran McKinney for keeping them in the game. When Rangers were reduced to 14 men, a chance presented itself, but the Ogs were patently not good enough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 30, 2007, 06:04:45 PM
QuoteI actually thought the Ogs were lucky enough to be in it for so long

Exactly Cross should have out of sight by half time, McKinney did great work.

Quoteshould there be more than one team in cross??
is the town and population not big enough for 2 senior teams?

the average "pick" for Armagh clubs is about 1600 people, (nationalist pop/number of clubs). Cross have a pick of about 2000, a bit more than average but not more than Ogs, I imagine.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 30, 2007, 07:09:22 PM
Pity the senior match was so poor but its no sense in blaming Cross. Thoroughly deserving of their victory - the game could have been dead and buried by half time only for McKinney's brilliance in nets for Ogs. At the other end Pearse Ogs never once really looked like cutting Cross open.

You'd have expected them to have made a game of it with the extra man but Cross just tightened their stranglehold on the match and were more than worthy winners. Have to say I thought the referee had quite a good game myself.

In contrast, the minor match produced great excitement. Thought we deserved our last minute goal even if it must have been heartbreaking for Granemore. Thought we controlled possession for most of the game although things seemed to break down in the final quarter. Also thought that the referee were far too quick to blow for frees on both sides and that Cullyhanna's first goal should have stood. Looked to me that he definately followed the ball in. The equalising goal was the best move of the match by a distance and Cullyhanna probably should have stolen it at the death. Draw was a fair enough result though, Neither team really played that well although I'd be hopeful that St Pat's can do the business in the replay.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: jodyb on September 30, 2007, 07:16:54 PM
No question about it, Ogs collapsed fairly easily. I have to ask though, how does a county final get played in Crossmaglen? Have Armagh no other ground that would cater for the crowd and bring a bit of fair play to the proceedings? Having said that, Crossmaglen were vastly superior to the Ogs, but home advantage has to be worth a couple of points or at least a mental advantage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 30, 2007, 07:24:13 PM
welcome to the world jod???? this has been discussed mate. I told u guys the bookies would ride again on the +6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: jodyb on September 30, 2007, 07:27:53 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 30, 2007, 07:24:13 PM
welcome to the world jod???? this has been discussed mate. I told u guys the bookies would ride again on the +6
Missed that discussion winsamsoon. Thanks. Don't wanna start it again, but was there ever a conclusion?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on September 30, 2007, 07:50:33 PM
Quote from: jodyb on September 30, 2007, 07:16:54 PM
No question about it, Ogs collapsed fairly easily. I have to ask though, how does a county final get played in Crossmaglen? Have Armagh no other ground that would cater for the crowd and bring a bit of fair play to the proceedings? Having said that, Crossmaglen were vastly superior to the Ogs, but home advantage has to be worth a couple of points or at least a mental advantage.

Funny, watching the match today, I acvtually felt that the pitch did Cross no favours. The Cross pitch is heavy and undulating, and quite often the length of the grass can be a problem - the sort of pitch that can help level things up. I got the imprseeion that if that game could have been played at the Athletic Grounds, then the bigger pitch and better playing surface would have ensured a greater margin of victory.

I'm convinced that the nearest team to Cross at the moment is Dromintee, but their lack of self belief means that they will never close the gap. After that, I would put the Ogs, Harps and Mullaghbawn, with Maghery beginning to come good - that group though is still a long way from the top.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on September 30, 2007, 07:58:19 PM
Well done to Cross, Tony Mac and Aaron were outstanding, young Finnegan and Tony and Paul Kernan look like good prospects.

Was glad to see big David McKenna playing well at midfield, he's a good county prospect and his father Donal is a seriously funny man!

Oisin kicked a few outrageous points when he was needed.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on September 30, 2007, 08:02:58 PM
the average "pick" for Armagh clubs is about 1600 people, (nationalist pop/number of clubs). Cross have a pick of about 2000, a bit more than average but not more than Ogs, I imagine.


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You also have to take account of the fact that in Armagh City there are a number of soccer teams which probably also eat into the potential GAA uptake whereas no such situation exists in Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: THE MIGHTY QUINN on September 30, 2007, 09:00:34 PM
It#s CArtwheel United , after one of the pubs but it's only one team and they make little impression in affecting Cross' potential pool of players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 30, 2007, 09:08:16 PM
I think we saw a new Armagh midfielder today by the name of David McKenna.
The 19 year old had an outstanding game and was many peoples choice of 'Man-of-the-Match' award.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on September 30, 2007, 10:01:56 PM
Armagh Exile

Don't know about that I thought he had a decent but not spectacular game.  Also was he not asked onto the panel this year and refused to go?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on September 30, 2007, 10:34:37 PM
Congratulations to Cross - an absolutely outstanding team - what can you say about them that hasn't been said before ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 30, 2007, 10:37:51 PM
QuoteDon't know about that I thought he had a decent but not spectacular game.  Also was he not asked onto the panel this year and refused to go?

I didn't think he was spectacular either David (was it him that tried to put Clarke through the wire?) though if Toner and Lavery are options then so is he.  I think he refused to go this year as he wanted a break.   

Who the f**k was the photographer (appeared to be a woman) that went up to Gerard Houlahan five minutes from the end and stuck a camera six inches from his face.   *shakes head*
If it was me I know where the camera would have went...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 30, 2007, 10:41:41 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on September 30, 2007, 09:08:16 PM
I think we saw a new Armagh midfielder today by the name of David McKenna.
The 19 year old had an outstanding game and was many peoples choice of 'Man-of-the-Match' award.



cross did well today and again never moved up a gear cus it wasnt needed, poor match, not much life about it, ref did all right for both teams except shorty clarke should have walked in the first half for standing on tony kernan, John D made a couple of great tackles and then give the ball away but still a very powerfull player,stephen clarke, aron, stephen k and tony mac did well and young mc kenna may have just made a place for himself on the county team, i know he was asked last year and turned it down but i heard he and his family thought he was a bit young and deceided leave it for that year,

2 unreal points from oisin near the end sealed the victory, i felt when jonny m was sent off that og's could have give it a go but cross showed how they are trained for any situation presented at them and it looked like cross had the extra man from then on.

well done cross

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on September 30, 2007, 10:51:06 PM
These photographers can be a little inappropriate at times alright ! Talk about kicking you when you're down !
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 30, 2007, 10:53:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness link=topic=769.msg17069
/quote

Hi pints see there has been a lot of work going on at your club this weekend, god it looks great, would love to see it at night with new lights on, i hear the opening is on next week is there a push on to get finished for it, will the social club be finished for it.
when you get the rise in the bank (so people can see better) in the old field sorted people can def not slate the bridge for a big match its a credit to you all,  oh i forgot you will need a multi story car park to keep everyone happy.  ::) ::) ::)

you do any vol work there as i hear everyone is doing something?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 30, 2007, 11:14:47 PM
Quote from: dontcare on September 30, 2007, 10:53:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness link=topic=769.msg17069
/quote

Hi pints see there has been a lot of work gpong on at your club this weekend, god it looks great, would love to see it at night with new lights on, i hear the opening is on next week is there a push on to get finished for it, will the social club be finished for it.
when you get the rise in the bank (so people can see better) in the old field sorted people can def not slate the bridge for a big match its a credit to you all,  oh i forgot you will need a multi story car park to keep everyone happy.  ::) ::) ::)

you do any vol work there as i hear everyone is doing something?
No I can't claim any credit for any of it dontcare, don't be home a lot now, don't even know if I'll make the opening *cries*. 
It's looks fantastic and as you say I cant wait to see it in lights, it's great to see the fields and resource centre regularly packed with kids too.   Push on to get it finished though I've no doubt we'll make it, not sure about the club though. 
I just hope next sunday goes off without a saturday night/early sunday morning incident! similar to what we've had in the past!!!   >:(
Oh and if people want, they'll find a way to slate you.



For everyone else...Next sunday, opening of the fields
11.30am Silverbridge Senior Ladies V Clady
12.30pm Silverbridge Senior Men V Maghery
2.30 pm  Opening Ceremony - performed by Nicky Brennan
3.45pm   Armagh V Louth (Ref: Pat McEneaney)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 30, 2007, 11:25:52 PM
what happens on sat nights sunday morning pints?/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on September 30, 2007, 11:30:03 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 30, 2007, 11:27:41 PM
?

ahhhh, dont start something and not finish it,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 30, 2007, 11:35:48 PM
I'm just afraid that we'll have a middle of the night call!  That fence around the fields was knocked...twice I think (if not three times).  One of the times an attempt to damage our property resulted in a water main being burst and the whole surrounding area went without water the whole  day.
I'm sure you know about the incidents leading up to the Saw doctors concert?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 01, 2007, 06:23:47 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 30, 2007, 11:35:48 PM
I'm just afraid that we'll have a middle of the night call!  That fence around the fields was knocked...twice I think (if not three times).  One of the times an attempt to damage our property resulted in a water main being burst and the whole surrounding area went without water the whole  day.
I'm sure you know about the incidents leading up to the Saw doctors concert?

POG - what happened for the Saw Doctors concert?

Who do you think are the likely culprits?  Are they from "the other side"?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2007, 08:55:10 AM
Any league result from the weekend?  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 01, 2007, 09:05:10 AM
Didn't see the game as we were out playing in the championship down here (lost again, oh how times have changed :()  Fantastic result, with a point scored for every year for good measure. ;)  Didn't see the sending off but my reports have told me it was stupid and he deserved to go.  Uncle Donal not a happy man over it I'd say.

I am sure that some bookies were laughing as a lot of punters thought that Ogs would have been closer. 

As for the post here about having two teams in Cross, why????  It is up to anyone to set up a club, if they feel they are not happy then they can do it.  I doubt if there are too many unhappy footballers or fans in Cross these days.

With Ballinderry out, it leaves a wide open Ulster Championship.  I am sure the Loneshark will have Cross as short odds favourites, but Bellaghy will be a tough propositon for any team.

QuoteWho do you think are the likely culprits?  Are they from "the other side"?


Smokin Joe, I hope you are not suggesting "whispers" Cullyhanna?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 01, 2007, 09:31:57 AM
For Crossmaglen to have won 12 titles in a row is an achievement. We will wait a very long time before it is repeated, but it begs the question....is there not another club team in Armagh with balls at all. We have played a few clubs in challenge matches from armagh and in these games they have proved to be decent opposition, so it is clear to me that in their heads they are beaten before it even starts. The net result is that Cross can expecta few titles.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 01, 2007, 09:48:38 AM
i only seen the first half of the match because we had a game at 5:00pm, i thought it was there for there for the taking at halftime but the two kernans. aaron and steven got too much room in the 30mins that he is a top class footballer and an assure playmaker

good luck to Cross in Ulster and all -ireland series

it was good to see my old buddy stevy clakrke pick up another medal, he does a tremendous amount of work yet is unregocnised for it

fair play stevy, Cross for Ulster
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2007, 10:07:16 AM
Another disappointing county final, The Ogs showed cross too much respect and gave them too much time on the ball, I thought that after J Murtagh was sent off that the Ogs would raise it but it was cross who took it by the scruff off the neck and romped home, and quite comfortable as well.
Anyone get any league reults from the varoius divisions?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 01, 2007, 11:31:59 AM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 01, 2007, 09:31:57 AM
For Crossmaglen to have won 12 titles in a row is an achievement. We will wait a very long time before it is repeated, but it begs the question....is there not another club team in Armagh with balls at all. We have played a few clubs in challenge matches from armagh and in these games they have proved to be decent opposition, so it is clear to me that in their heads they are beaten before it even starts. The net result is that Cross can expecta few titles.

Well Maximus you are dead right, we have played you's lads several times and played well against yous. We have beaten Dungiven easily and played very well against Ballinderry etc etc but when it comes to the championship in Armagh there are to many guys on our team don't have the fight in them for the battle or as you'd put it "don't have the balls". and judging by winning 12 titles in a row the rest of Armagh is the same.

P.S. could someone get the current league tables as i believe St Peters won on sat which will make the relegation battle interesting in the second division.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 01, 2007, 11:36:32 AM
Nail on the head illdecide!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 01, 2007, 12:04:14 PM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 30 SEPTEMBER 2007


Saturday 29 September

ACL – Div. II
Granemore 0-17; Keady 0-7
St Michael's 1-13; Carrickcruppen 0-15
Clann Eireann v Killeavey (Off)

ACL – Div. III
Crossmaglen II 0-15; St Paul's 1-3
Sarsfields 1-12; Middletown 0-9
Clady 0-7; Madden 1-12
Collegeland v An Port Mor (Off)

ACL – Div. IV
Derrynoose 1-13; Shane O'Neill's 1-4


Sunday 30 September

Armagh Senior Football Championship Final
Crossmaglen 0-12; Pearse Og 0-6

Armagh Minor Football Championship Final
Granemore 1-5; St Patrick's 1-5

ACL – Div. II
Annaghmore 1-5; St Peter's 0-9

ACL – Div. IV
Belleek 3-9; Forkhill 0-6



ACL TABLES

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 13 12 0 1 24
Pearse Og 14 9 1 4 19
Dromintee 13 8 1 4 17
Clan na Gael 16 7 3 6 17
Maghery 14 7 2 5 16
Harps 16 7 2 6 16
Mullaghbawn 17 7 2 8 16
Whitecross 16 6 0 10 12
Culloville 15 4 2 9 10
Tir na nÓg 16 1 1 14 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
St Patrick's 17 16 0 1 32
Killeavey 18 14 1 3 29
St Michael's 18 12 3 3 27
Silverbridge 18 11 1 6 23
Carrickcruppen 15 11 0 4 22
Granemore 18 7 1 9 17
Ballymacnab 18 8 0 10 16
Clann Eireann 16 7 0 9 14
Keady 18 5 1 12 11
St Peter's 20 4 1 14 9
Wolfe Tones 18 3 2 13 8
Annaghmore 18 2 0 16 4

Division III
P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 19 17 0 2 34
Madden 19 15 0 4 30
An Port Mor 18 14 1 3 29
Collegeland 18 13 1 4 27
Lissummon 18 8 2 8 18
Ballyhegan 18 7 1 10 15
Tullysaran 18 6 3 9 15
St Paul's 18 6 2 10 14
Clonmore 19 6 1 12 13
Crossmaglen II 18 5 1 12 11
Middletown 15 3 0 12 6
Clady 18 1 2 15 4

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Belleek 17 15 0 2 30
Grange 16 12 1 3 25
Derrynoose 17 11 2 4 24
Eire Og 16 10 0 6 20
Shane O'Neill's 16 9 2 5 20
Forkhill 18 9 1 8 19
Mullaghbrack 17 8 1 8 17
Dorsey Emmett's 17 7 2 8 16
O'Hanlon's 16 4 2 10 10
Corrinshego 18 2 1 15 5
Phelim Brady's 18 0 0 18 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 01, 2007, 12:43:11 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on October 01, 2007, 06:23:47 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 30, 2007, 11:35:48 PM
I'm just afraid that we'll have a middle of the night call!  That fence around the fields was knocked...twice I think (if not three times).  One of the times an attempt to damage our property resulted in a water main being burst and the whole surrounding area went without water the whole  day.
I'm sure you know about the incidents leading up to the Saw doctors concert?

POG - what happened for the Saw Doctors concert?
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Who do you think are the likely culprits?  Are they from "the other side"?
Joe we know who the culprit is, the local lunatic.
The same man that tried to intimidate the owner of the fields (where our new ones are) to not sell to us.
Same man that on the morning of the Concert he sprayed slurry all around the roads, damaged cars and knocked down one of our members when he was blocked in.
Reported us to the DOE for having the fields out on the road.
Tried to block planning permission, only a few weeks ago, for the floodlights. 

The same boy reported his neighbour for painting the lines on the road orange and white.

He also decided to build a new house a few years ago and built the new one around the old one - it hasn't been finished and if you go past the club, as if you're heading for Dundalk take a right turn and go up that road you'll see a house inside a house  :D
Legend has it that brickies would get so far and arrive the next morning to find the said indivdual had drew circles around particular bricks and demand they be removed from the wall because he didn't like the look of them  :D  :D  :D

You got to hand it to the 'bridge, we do village idiots in style!


at the dromintee cross game (second one) some smart arse opened one of his fields and waved cars in to park in it  :D
He responded with a piece in the local paper about the intimidation he was being subject too.

All this is because his great great great grandfather, 300 years ago had a "cow pad" at the top of our new fields.   ::)

All joking aside, I have a very real fear that it will end very badly, he's a headcase! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 01, 2007, 01:47:56 PM
Now that the County Championship is over, who are the players that have staked serious claims for the new Armagh panel of 30?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2007, 02:24:23 PM
I have seen 3 championship games this year involving Pearse Ogs. and ws very impressed by Shorty Clarke, and Gregory Loughran, James Lavery fro Maghery was another one who impressed me
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on October 01, 2007, 02:40:26 PM
pints i now know what your talking about, hope this doesnt happen this time, can this person not be stopped at his little games,

so i suppose there will be reund the clock watches on the new pitches until next weeks big event,

You going, i hear some of your player have been asked to play along with the county team for sundays game with Louth, first game under new managment at your fields must feel good.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: McLovin on October 01, 2007, 02:43:09 PM
As a cruppen man I am being biased but defo think Martin Ferris, Barry Loughran, James Hughes and Peter Loughran are well worth a trial with the county panel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 01, 2007, 02:44:40 PM
Quote from: dontcare on October 01, 2007, 02:40:26 PM
pints i now know what your talking about, hope this doesnt happen this time, can this person not be stopped at his little games,

so i suppose there will be reund the clock watches on the new pitches until next weeks big event,

You going, i hear some of your player have been asked to play along with the county team for sundays game with Louth, first game under new managment at your fields must feel good.

Its a good job the peace process is in order!! there have been guys found on the Blaney road in a black bin bag for less. ;) ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 01, 2007, 03:25:29 PM
Another poor County Final, not that it will bother Cross in the least.
They showed yet again what a well oiled machine they are & even the sending-off didnt seem to affect them, it fact it seemd to spur them on.
What was Murtagh put in for? Is it a month or 3 month ban?
Mc Kenna was good yesterday as was Stephen & Aaron Kernan. Thought Oisin showed his class with 2 good scores towards the end
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 01, 2007, 04:04:48 PM
Any word on Ronan Clarke's injury?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2007, 04:07:36 PM
Here Here Full Back, You hit the nail on the head, ' a well oiled machine' people are talking about the standard of club football in Armagh being Shite, with one team winning everything. But the truth of the matter is there are a lot of good club teams in the county but just simply not good enough to beat Cross. I mean they have won All irelands and Ulsters in Recent times. so the other best clubs in Ireland have suffered defeat to the Armagh Champions. the club scene in Armagh is as competitve as there is, In Fact, Yesterdays Finalists Pearse Ogs, would put it up to the Ballinderrys, Mayobridges, and Errigal Ciarans, but Cross are above that again
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2007, 04:08:27 PM
I heard it was his hamstring on the same leg as his Bad knee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 01, 2007, 04:34:20 PM
To be honest lads i don't think that cross team will go much further in the ulster. I hope i am wrong because i would love to see them winning another ulster and All Ireland but i just think they are tiring a little. They will beat the monaghan champs though in the next round.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2007, 04:38:35 PM
At what stage of the game did you see them tiring, Coz as far as i could see, they were only getting started in the last 15 -20 mins of the game, I honestly can see them winning Ulster again and all ireland? well who knows
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on October 01, 2007, 04:41:38 PM
QuoteIn Fact, Yesterdays Finalists Pearse Ogs, would put it up to the Ballinderrys, Mayobridges, and Errigal Ciarans, but Cross are above that again

Are you basing this on Ogs 1 point victory over Ballymacnab, 1 point victory over Maghery or yesterdays performance?  Or was it their first round exit the previous 3 years  ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2007, 05:00:38 PM
Quote from: Louis the Red on October 01, 2007, 04:41:38 PM
QuoteIn Fact, Yesterdays Finalists Pearse Ogs, would put it up to the Ballinderrys, Mayobridges, and Errigal Ciarans, but Cross are above that again

Are you basing this on Ogs 1 point victory over Ballymacnab, 1 point victory over Maghery or yesterdays performance?  Or was it their first round exit the previous 3 years  ??? ???

I was making referance to the fact that the standard of senior championship football in Armagh is as high as any other county, it is just that Cross are streets ahead of everyone else
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 01, 2007, 05:06:43 PM
Interesting point, I always wondered how Dromintee would have got on if we had beat Cross. And don't come back with "well they did beat you!" because I know that. I always figured we would fair reasonably well and not show ourselves up.  Guess it is impossible to figure out but the likes of ourselves Clans, Harps and Ogs would be decent in Ulster I believe.

Of course every County has its second and third team that would think the same. I get the point Onion is making. Cross winning 12 does defiently not mean the standard of Armagh football is the worst around.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on October 01, 2007, 05:37:40 PM
maybe it would work to introduce some kind of back door system for county finalists?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 01, 2007, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: dontcare on October 01, 2007, 02:40:26 PM
pints i now know what your talking about, hope this doesnt happen this time, can this person not be stopped at his little games,

so i suppose there will be reund the clock watches on the new pitches until next weeks big event,

You going, i hear some of your player have been asked to play along with the county team for sundays game with Louth, first game under new managment at your fields must feel good.
Well there were attempts made to talk to him but you may as well be talking to the wall.
Who's our lads asked to play with armagh? I didn't hear that. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 01, 2007, 06:00:08 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 01, 2007, 04:08:27 PM
I heard it was his hamstring on the same leg as his Bad knee
When he went down I was sure it was his hamstring but he was pointing to and receing attention on more to the side/back of his knee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on October 01, 2007, 09:53:08 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 01, 2007, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: dontcare on October 01, 2007, 02:40:26 PM
pints i now know what your talking about, hope this doesnt happen this time, can this person not be stopped at his little games,

so i suppose there will be reund the clock watches on the new pitches until next weeks big event,

You going, i hear some of your player have been asked to play along with the county team for sundays game with Louth, first game under new managment at your fields must feel good.
Well there were attempts made to talk to him but you may as well be talking to the wall.
Who's our lads asked to play with armagh? I didn't hear that. 


not sure pints just heard 3 of them were to be picked to play with them i thought you may know, who would get the chance you think?????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 01, 2007, 10:31:51 PM
Quote from: dontcare on October 01, 2007, 09:53:08 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 01, 2007, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: dontcare on October 01, 2007, 02:40:26 PM
pints i now know what your talking about, hope this doesnt happen this time, can this person not be stopped at his little games,

so i suppose there will be reund the clock watches on the new pitches until next weeks big event,

You going, i hear some of your player have been asked to play along with the county team for sundays game with Louth, first game under new managment at your fields must feel good.
Well there were attempts made to talk to him but you may as well be talking to the wall.
Who's our lads asked to play with armagh? I didn't hear that. 


not sure pints just heard 3 of them were to be picked to play with them i thought you may know, who would get the chance you think?????
I hear 3 or 4 will play with the county sunday, it's up to the players who they put forward. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 01, 2007, 11:10:17 PM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 7 SEPTEMBER 2007


Tuesday 2 October

ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Clann Eireann v Carrickcruppen (Paul Rath)


Saturday 6 October

Armagh Under-21 Football Championship – 1st Round (2.00)
Granemore v St John's (Ronan Quigley)
Sarsfields v Eire Og (Sean McClelland)
Clann Eireann v Whitecross (Jim Slevin)
St Paul's v Silverbridge (Noel Martin)
Keady v Culloville (Eamon Nugent)
Madden v Kevin Barry's (Damian McConville)
Shane O'Neill's v Mullaghbawn (Patrick Duffy)
Harps v Carrickcruppen (Mickey Leonard)
Tir na nÓg v Maghery (Frank McDonald)

First named team has home advantage
Extra time, if necessary, in all games


Sunday 7 October

ACL – Div. I (12.00)
Dromintee v Clan na Gael (Stephen Murray)
Harps v Maghery (Paudie Hughes)
Pearse Og v Culloville (Gary Smith)
Tir na nÓg v Crossmaglen (Vincent O'Neill)

ACL – Div. II (12.00)
Keady v Ballymacnab (Dessie McDonnell)
Silverbridge v Carrickcruppen (Gerard Devlin)
Clann Eireann v Granemore (Henry McCloy)
St Patrick's v Killeavey (Mickey Leonard)
Wolfe Tones v St Michael's (Paul Boylan)

ACL – Div. III (12.00)
Lissummon v Clady (Jimmy McKee)
Sarsfields v Clonmore (Stephen McKinley)
Collegeland v Crossmaglen II (Barney Henry)
An Port Mor v Madden (Oliver Hearty)
Tullysaran v Middletown (Damian McConville)
Ballyhegan v St Peter's (Kevin Gallogly)

ACL – Div. IV (12.00)
Eire Og v Grange (Ronan Quigley)
Shane O'Neill's v Mullaghbrack (Jim Lynch)
Corrinshego v O'Hanlon's (Brendan Gorman)
Dorsey Emmett's v Phelim Brady's (Noel Martin)

Official Opening of Silverbridge Harps New Field
Armagh v Louth (3.45)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on October 02, 2007, 11:53:40 AM
carrickcruppen game with silverbridge will now take place in silverbridge on tuesday night of next week under floodlights to facilitate the opening of the new field on sunday at silverbridge!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on October 02, 2007, 12:08:32 PM

Drominte have played and more ofte than not beaten the likes of Ballinderry, Bellaghy, Mayobridge, E Ciaran & st galls over the last 4 or 5 years. that really doesn't mean a whole pile though as a ulster club championship game brings to bear a whole different set of conditions. obviously cross are one of the best and i would say dromintee could be competitive in the ulster club but beyond that i don't think there's an armagh club that'd be capable of wnning too many games... bar beating the donegal champions who nver seem to win a game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 02, 2007, 12:13:13 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 01, 2007, 04:07:36 PM
Here Here Full Back, You hit the nail on the head, ' a well oiled machine' people are talking about the standard of club football in Armagh being Shite, with one team winning everything. But the truth of the matter is there are a lot of good club teams in the county but just simply not good enough to beat Cross. I mean they have won All irelands and Ulsters in Recent times. so the other best clubs in Ireland have suffered defeat to the Armagh Champions. the club scene in Armagh is as competitve as there is, In Fact, Yesterdays Finalists Pearse Ogs, would put it up to the Ballinderrys, Mayobridges, and Errigal Ciarans, but Cross are above that again


If the clubs in Armagh are so good why don't they just beat Cross once...just once. Bellaghy, Errigal, Castleblaney and Loup have beaten them once, so why can't one of these great clubs in Armagh do it. The answer is in your head, deep down you believe you can't
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on October 02, 2007, 12:18:43 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 02, 2007, 12:13:13 PM
If the clubs in Armagh are so good ...

they're not
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 02, 2007, 01:11:44 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on October 02, 2007, 12:18:43 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 02, 2007, 12:13:13 PM
If the clubs in Armagh are so good ...

they're not

Aghdavoyle i see we play you's men on sunday at 12:00, WTF i had the boots threw away into the shed thinking there was no more games. Kevin Brady was giving off about clubs in previous years not fulfilling fixtures so he said it won't happen any more :D :D

Well we'll see if Cross fulfill the rest of their fixtures and if Carrickcruppin get to play the rest of theirs. The threat of throwing them into division 4 will scare Cross alright ;) :D

P.S. whats with the 12:00 throw in's is there something on on Sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 02, 2007, 01:15:45 PM
It might be because the county are playing in the 'Bridge at 3.45 illdecide
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on October 02, 2007, 01:18:31 PM
illdecide - carrickcruppen WILL fulfill all of our fixtures!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 02, 2007, 01:36:58 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on October 02, 2007, 01:18:31 PM
illdecide - carrickcruppen WILL fulfill all of our fixtures!

i wasn't getting at any team there by the way, i'm just stating that will the county board carry out their threat to relegate Cross if they don't play the rest of their league games (5 still to play) I know Cross and particular Cruppin have had games called off with no fault of their own but we all know that that would not happen (relegated, so why make the threat)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 02, 2007, 01:56:40 PM
When was this threat made illdecide?
Was it said officially or on the grapevine?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 02, 2007, 02:12:50 PM
Aghda, is this the same Dromintee team that only scored 2 points against the cross in a semi final of a county championship. Catch yourself on, if you think that cross are streets ahead and dromintee are a close second and then a massive gap then you are even more biased than i thought. I'll tell you this once again Cross are streets ahead, they have proved it more than 12 times. Dromintee are like all the other teams they have won nothing at all, never mind in the last 12 years so come down of the high horse. Thinking it is cross Dromintee then the rest. Judging on the last two years Dromintee would be a distant fourth because we were beaten finalists last year and the ogs this year. Cross are superior and the rest of the teams you could toss a coin between them at present. If the ogs were playing Dromintee in the morning i would say it would be a tight encounter. the ogs are every bit as capable in the ulster series as Dromintee or any team in Armagh. I believe that the ogs under performed in sundays final. I have watched them play and played against them and i know they are a better side than they showed on sunday. I think the occasion got to some of the lads a bit. I have also witnessed ogs teams and i am talking maybe 3-4 yeasr past, i  thought these teams could beat the cross and they were dumped out of the championship. Onion bag i never said they tired on sunday i said they were a tiring side. By this i meant that it is hard to keep a winning mentality going for so long but i guess if there is a team to do it then cross can. Once again i wish them all the best in the Ulster and All Ireland series.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 02, 2007, 02:36:34 PM
Can anyone confirm definetly when the cut off for the League matches are? I mean do they all have to be played by a particular date?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on October 02, 2007, 02:44:00 PM
Illdecide - not sure what the story is with sunday. put it like this... we wouldn't be that disppointed if the game needed to be postponed for some reason!

winsamsoon - you sure do go out of your way to take offence. "you think that cross are streets ahead and dromintee are a close second and then a massive gap" are your words. its my opinion that cross are a fair bit ahead of everyone but we are the best of the rest. second is nowhere. noone other than cross have beaten dromintee in chamionship football for eight years now so surely all the teams we've beaten, including clans, harps, ogs, mullaghbawn, etc would've beaten us at least once if they were better than us?

Quote from: winsamsoon on October 02, 2007, 02:12:50 PMis this the same Dromintee team that only scored 2 points against the cross in a semi final of a county championship.

You can start picking results out of the blue if you like. i'd prefer to say that we took the all ireland champions to a replay, and that replay was the first time they'd beaten us by more than 3 points for 7 years. if the ogs and clans are ahead of us, how come we've beaten clans twice and drawn once in our last three meetings and our last game against the ogs we beat them by 10 points.

we all support our own clubs but a bit of objectivity wouldn't go astray now and again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 02, 2007, 02:53:51 PM
FFS lads, is this what it has come to?
People are posting and disagreeing about who is the 2nd best team in the county
How embarrassing :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on October 02, 2007, 03:11:47 PM

Feel free to ignore any aspect of local gaa discussion you aren't interested in...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on October 02, 2007, 03:21:39 PM

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=84159 (ftp://http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=84159)

Best of luck fella
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 02, 2007, 03:52:39 PM
Big loss for Armagh and Dromintee.....huge gain for Collingwood. I thought the money would have been better though but i suppose its only a rookie salary and the big bucks would follow after the first 2 years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 02, 2007, 03:58:40 PM
I was reading somewhere than the Collingwood coaches believe that Dyas is more advanced than Marty Clarke was at his first trial.  Thats a good sign that he could well be as successful as Clarke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 02, 2007, 04:28:01 PM
Have to say that I enjoy these sort of discussions about football within the County. Someone mentioned (was it Maximus) that Cross winning twelve in a row points to a bad standard of club football - I would disagree with that. Maximus also pointed out that Cross winning twelve in a row pointed to the rest having a mental block with Cross, I would agree with that assertion.

Over the twelve years that Cross have dominated in Armagh, there are in my opinion, four teams who could have given an Ulster Club a good rattle.

Mullaghbawn 1996-98. Bear in mind, when Cross won their first Ulster Title, Mullaghbawn were the existing Ulster Club Champions, and their team had the McNultys, Geezer, Neil Smyth and Benny Tierney as it's backbone, and were still a formidable side - if memory serves me well, Cross beat Mullaghbawn in Silverbridge in 1996 in a quarter final, and pulled away late on to win by 4/5. They met again in the 1997 final, and Cross, the exisitng All Ireland Club Champions, edged it by a point. After that, Mullaghbawn began to lose their big players, and faded away - they were for those three years, in my opinion, a top five in Ulster side - their clashes with Cross would support that.

Clan na Gael 1997-99 Another club littered with excellent players at the peak of their powers, the O'Hagans, John Campbell, Philip Oldham, the Marsdens - won back to back Armagh titles in 1993/94, hammering the Mullaghbawn side in the 1994 final that would go on to win Ulster a year later. Not as good as Mullaghbawn above, but I would have said a top 6/7 side in Ulster in the period above.  

Pearse Og 1999-2001 Alright, pains me to say it, but they had a very good team in this period, but were unfortunate to come up against Cross at the height of their powers in 1999 and 2000. The Ogs had a very young team, full of exciting footballers, and in my opinion would have been a top 9 club in Ulster at that time. This was the first time though that I saw serious challengers who clearly had a mental block about Cross. From 2001 on, they fell to three in the County as the challenge of Dromintee arose, and Dromintee were a hurdle that they could not overcome. The Ogs came back again in the first round in 2005 and had Cross at their mercy on two occasions, but the mental block arose again, and a few chances to finish them off were not taken. Plus Dessie Henderson had one of his more eccentric performances at a vital time!  :) The real losers that night though were Dromintee!  ;)

Dromintee 2001-2004 Another excellent side full of great footballers. They run Cross close on a few occasions, at a point where both sides were giving their all and the result was very much in doubt. Were the second serious challenger however to come undone by the mental block, when winning chances presented themselves. After a  few defeats, it was clear that Cross had their number. In my opinion, that Dromintee side were top five in Ulster - no question about it they would have been in the running for an Ulster Club Title - they just could not get out of their own County. I get the impression though that Dromintee now feel that their chance has gone and they now play with the acceptance that they will not win the County title. I believe this lack of self belief is now shared by the other main contenders.

As of now, Cross are way out in front and comfortably so. Dromintee, in my opinion, would be second on their own and after that I would see a group of Ogs, Harps, Mullaghbawn with Maghery showing signs of improvement.  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 02, 2007, 04:48:57 PM
Quote from: full back on October 02, 2007, 01:56:40 PM
When was this threat made illdecide?
Was it said officially or on the grapevine?

aye he (Brady) rambled something like that last week about how teams could get relegated to division 4 if teams failed to fulfill their fixtures. I don't know if that was official or he was just blowing his trumpet.

P.S. I'm not getting into a stupid row about who is the second best team in Armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on October 02, 2007, 04:55:01 PM

noone was debating about who the second best team in armagh are until winsam imagined thats what he was reading. the discussion was on whether any of armagh's other clubs could compete in the ulster club championship, if the opportunity arose.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 02, 2007, 05:05:00 PM
This row about who the second best team is is silly, we all know that it is Cross's subs who are the second best team ;)

Good synopsis an Rufuiseach.  I note with interest you do not see Na Clarsaigh as part of the main challengers, which on performances in the championship is understandable.  They may have the players but there is something missing.

IMHO, Armagh club football is perceived as being a joke country wide.  No matter how much you try to explain to people that Cross simply are a special bunch of players, the seem to think that there is some county wide failure to try to beat Cross.  I, for one, can tell anyone here that over the time of my career playing I never was marked by a harder marker than Collie Burns, nor played against a team as good consistenly as Dromintee.

Mentally it may be that the sight of the jersey has teams a few points down, but in fairness that was the case before, it just seems to have gotten worse.

I have no doubt that Dromintee would have given Ulster a fair rattle, Mullaghbawn obviously did, Clans would have had the ablity to rattle a few teams but would not have won it as they rely on too few of players, Ogs I think would struggle as football in Novemeber is a big mans game and the are not the most physically imposing team.  That is not to say though that they would not make a big name side sweat, I just think they would struggle.

Anyway, roll on the Ulster, I may get up for the semi or the final if they make it.  I also have to support Mrs BC's home club, Cushendun, in the Intermediate hurling so I could be a busy traveller. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 02, 2007, 05:23:11 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 02, 2007, 05:05:00 PM
Good synopsis an Rufuiseach.  I note with interest you do not see Na Clarsaigh as part of the main challengers, which on performances in the championship is understandable.  They may have the players but there is something missing.


Well for our part BC we defintely have potential, but the prevailing attitude will see to it that we will come nowhere near to fulfilling that potential. We played Cross in the league last Sunday week, and with a degree of comfort I could have named a Harps 1 to 15 that the Harps could have fielded that would have hammered the Harps team that lined out - the team I could name would have included 9/10 County Minors and 4 County Seniors. It's a real pity, and I see it repeated elsewhere throughout the County to a bigger or lesser extent.

That said, over the last twelve years, we were able to get one or two big performances that unfortunately could not be replicated on a consistent basis. We beat Clans off the park (in football terms  :)) in the first round in Derrymacash in 1999, and that Clans side was building for what they saw as a date with destiny with Cross - that Clans team were top six in Ulster at that time. We followed it up however with an absolute shocker against a Geezerless Mullaghbawn in Cross, when we were beaten 0-11 to 0-04.


Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 02, 2007, 05:05:00 PM
Mentally it may be that the sight of the jersey has teams a few points down, but in fairness that was the case before, it just seems to have gotten worse.


100% correct, and it is Dromintee who have suffered the most - as stated, I get the impression that defeats to Cross have totally undermined their self belief in being able to dethrone Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 02, 2007, 06:09:53 PM
Aghdavoyle for starters me saying that Dromintee were the best of the rest ( even though i never said this) is the same as saying a team is second best. It really doesn't matter who beat who in the last 8 years the only team to have won the championship is Cross. Dromintee have won nothing so stop talking like you have. By all means engage in discussions but don't try to represent something that your club has not yet achieved. Rufus , you think that Maghery should be rated higher than the clans  :D  then i really have nothing further to say to you. I really don't know where you are coming from. Certainly we are a team in decline but Magery are a very young team with no experience and i can guarantee they will break no delf in the next ten years. Ask the maghery men about the article written in the lurgan mail, claiming they were the best team in north Armagh. Look up the league result for the following week Draw your own conclusions. I will agree with one thing you said rufus i like the club debates and Ahgdavoyle is correct when he says if you don't like the discussion feel free to bypass them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 02, 2007, 06:37:11 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on October 02, 2007, 11:53:40 AM
carrickcruppen game with silverbridge will now take place in silverbridge on tuesday night of next week under floodlights to facilitate the opening of the new field on sunday at silverbridge!
Well even without the opening I wouldn't be to happy if the fixture was forced as it would mean playing lads saturday and sunday or not fielding sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 02, 2007, 06:42:08 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 02, 2007, 06:09:53 PM
Rufus , you think that Maghery should be rated higher than the clans  :D  then i really have nothing further to say to you. I really don't know where you are coming from. Certainly we are a team in decline but Magery are a very young team with no experience and i can guarantee they will break no delf in the next ten years.

Wouldn't be a lot in it to be honest - I would have Maghery ahead of Clans, based on what I have seen in the league and this year's Championship results.

You seem very confident of your position, given that there is a tacit acceptance in your quote that Maghery are young (and it is thus likely that their best years are ahead of them) and Clans are in decline.

Clans have a greater tradition than Maghery - I hope that does not blind you to the realities of today!  ;)  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 02, 2007, 08:04:17 PM
Winsamsoon you are a case, A WUM perhaps? I can only imagine Illdecide is cringing at some of your posts.

As stated the question is not about the second best team in Armagh but how Armagh teams would fare in Ulster seeing as we are precieved as a joke County. Great post Rufus, I am too young to appreciate them teams apart from maybe Ogs and obviously Dromintee.

Also I agree, Maghery for me are quickly becoming a top Armagh side. They have youth and a good solid base of players to build on. I have not seen too much of them but have seen them play well, and when they play well they are deadly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RICH TEA on October 02, 2007, 08:38:44 PM
pints will they not be playing sat and Sunday anyhow whit the game at the opening, could they not have played cruppin for that game? who are you playing that day?

is it true that c conlon got his transfer and played last weekend for young Irelanders in dundalk and scored 4 points, could be bull but i heard it,

Is this team in dUNDALK ANY GOOD.

for the people who are debating on who is the second best team in armagh i don't know its a silly debate but i suppose it has to be discussed as there are so many teams on the same level in armagh but below the power of crossmaglen as they have 12 in a row,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: deadeyedick on October 02, 2007, 08:43:11 PM
"Well for our part BC we defintely have potential, but the prevailing attitude will see to it that we will come nowhere near to fulfilling that potential. We played Cross in the league last Sunday week, and with a degree of comfort I could have named a Harps 1 to 15 that the Harps could have fielded that would have hammered the Harps team that lined out - the team I could name would have included 9/10 County Minors and 4 County Seniors. It's a real pity, and I see it repeated elsewhere throughout the County to a bigger or lesser extent."

Spoken like Joe Darragh ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 02, 2007, 08:56:54 PM
rich tea
Quotepints will they not be playing sat and Sunday anyhow whit the game at the opening, could they not have played cruppin for that game? who are you playing that day?

is it true that c conlon got his transfer and played last weekend for young Irelanders in dundalk and scored 4 points, could be bull but i heard it,

Is this team in dUNDALK ANY GOOD.
We're playing maghery on sunday, there's big difference in playing a friendly at the opening of the field and playing Cruppen in a league game.

Conlon got his transfer through, I know nothing about his new club other than his Da manages them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on October 02, 2007, 09:10:01 PM
both maghery and the 'bridge have an excellent relationship which stems back long before my existence and when maghery opened their field 3-4 years ago they invited us up to play on that day so am sure you can understand why we would like to enjoy the occasion instead of having the pressure of a league game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 02, 2007, 10:16:53 PM
Quote from: deadeyedick on October 02, 2007, 08:43:11 PM
"Well for our part BC we defintely have potential, but the prevailing attitude will see to it that we will come nowhere near to fulfilling that potential. We played Cross in the league last Sunday week, and with a degree of comfort I could have named a Harps 1 to 15 that the Harps could have fielded that would have hammered the Harps team that lined out - the team I could name would have included 9/10 County Minors and 4 County Seniors. It's a real pity, and I see it repeated elsewhere throughout the County to a bigger or lesser extent."

Spoken like Joe Darragh ;)

You could be right you know - let me see if I can rise to the challenge!!

Harps players, with County experience, who did not play against Crossmaglen Rangers last Sunday Week!

Nippy Swift - Armagh Senior
Peadar Toal - Armagh Senior
Collie Holmes - Tyrone Senior
JP Donnelly - Armagh Senior

Senior Total - 4

Brian Garvey - Armagh minor
Conor Grimes - Armagh minor
Bambi McCourt - Armagh minor
Paddy Grimes - Armagh minor
Willie McSorley - Armagh minor
Paddy Morrison - Armagh minor
Pearse Basketfield - Armagh minor
Minnie Holmes - Tyrone minor
Sean Morrison - Armagh minor
Kyle McGuigan - Armagh minor

Minor Total - 10

I quit at ten - there are others that might/could have been included, but the ref stopped this one to avoid further punishment!!  ;)

Dead eyed, mabe not, but dick..........
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 02, 2007, 10:19:47 PM
QuoteHarps players, with County experience, who did not play against Crossmaglen Rangers last Sunday Week!
JP Donnelly - Armagh Senior

Who wants to tell Rufus?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 02, 2007, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 02, 2007, 10:19:47 PM
QuoteHarps players, with County experience, who did not play against Crossmaglen Rangers last Sunday Week!
JP Donnelly - Armagh Senior

Who wants to tell Rufus?

I'm afraid you're going to have to read the small print young Pints!

The match I'm referring to was a league fixture played Sunday week ago - you don't I assume have the date when JP's 'alleged' transfer went through?!?!  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on October 02, 2007, 10:39:34 PM
carrickcruppen beat clann eireann tonight in div.2 on a scoreline of 1-16 to 1-5

need a favour from st.pats now this weekend if our chances of promotion are to materialise!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 02, 2007, 10:41:52 PM
"young pints"  ;D

Transfer or not I don't think you can say he's a Harps player anymore.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 02, 2007, 10:52:51 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 02, 2007, 10:41:52 PM
"young pints"  ;D

Transfer or not I don't think you can say he's a Harps player anymore.

Well the underlying theme of what I was trying to say was that the Harps could and should have been achieving so much more, given the players that we have had. Attitudes though would undermine totally that potential - those attitudes can manifest themselves in many many ways, i.e. from not putting it in at training to looking a transfer away!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 02, 2007, 11:28:18 PM
Rufus, Sure JP's an Ogs Man

You not up to date on current events in the big smoke ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 02, 2007, 11:36:40 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on October 02, 2007, 11:28:18 PM
Rufus, Sure JP's an Ogs Man

You not up to date on current events in the big smoke ;D

Well, sure I'll wait for the official word!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on October 03, 2007, 07:33:25 AM
Our Senior Championship has become a joke. It's as about competitive as the Leinster hurling championship. I think it's time to alter the formate of the competion. I would make 3 suggestions that I think could improve things:

1. Amalgamations should be allowed to play in the SFC -South, Mid and North Armagh - made up of players whose clubs play IFC or JFC.
2. The SFC should be played off with 4 groups of 4. This will give the amalgamated clubs a chance to get used to playing together.
3. The SFC Final should be played at a neutral venue.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 03, 2007, 07:58:58 AM
that'll work.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on October 03, 2007, 08:34:01 AM
rufus, its not official word but I think JP's transfer went through at 6pm on sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 03, 2007, 08:38:32 AM
I was reading that Geezer is officially the new Kildare Manager, Does anyone know, is Kildare in the same division as Armagh for the league, Cant remember the outcome last year, i know they played last season, if it is the case that they are playing, it will be so stange to see Geezer and Grimley calling for the other team, as Mc Conville, "Its Armaghs loss, and someone elses Gain"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 03, 2007, 09:14:04 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on October 03, 2007, 08:34:01 AM
rufus, its not official word but I think JP's transfer went through at 6pm on sunday.

Jp's transfer was approved by croke park on friday.  It became official on monday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 03, 2007, 09:22:54 AM
I may have picked this up wrong but...  ::)
I think what Rufus is trying to say is that potentially we could have had these players on the field sunday last but for 1 reason or another they were not????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 03, 2007, 09:45:18 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 03, 2007, 08:38:32 AM
I was reading that Geezer is officially the new Kildare Manager, Does anyone know, is Kildare in the same division as Armagh for the league, Cant remember the outcome last year, i know they played last season, if it is the case that they are playing, it will be so stange to see Geezer and Grimley calling for the other team, as Mc Conville, "Its Armaghs loss, and someone elses Gain"

Either way, a spell in Division 2 is just what the new manager needs, getting a few wins under our belts (possibly without the Cross boys). Am lucking forward to it, as they say in south Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 03, 2007, 09:48:14 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on October 02, 2007, 04:28:01 PM
Have to say that I enjoy these sort of discussions about football within the County. Someone mentioned (was it Maximus) that Cross winning twelve in a row points to a bad standard of club football - I would disagree with that. Maximus also pointed out that Cross winning twelve in a row pointed to the rest having a mental block with Cross, I would agree with that assertion.

Over the twelve years that Cross have dominated in Armagh, there are in my opinion, four teams who could have given an Ulster Club a good rattle.

Mullaghbawn 1996-98. Bear in mind, when Cross won their first Ulster Title, Mullaghbawn were the existing Ulster Club Champions, and their team had the McNultys, Geezer, Neil Smyth and Benny Tierney as it's backbone, and were still a formidable side - if memory serves me well, Cross beat Mullaghbawn in Silverbridge in 1996 in a quarter final, and pulled away late on to win by 4/5. They met again in the 1997 final, and Cross, the exisitng All Ireland Club Champions, edged it by a point. After that, Mullaghbawn began to lose their big players, and faded away - they were for those three years, in my opinion, a top five in Ulster side - their clashes with Cross would support that.

Clan na Gael 1997-99 Another club littered with excellent players at the peak of their powers, the O'Hagans, John Campbell, Philip Oldham, the Marsdens - won back to back Armagh titles in 1993/94, hammering the Mullaghbawn side in the 1994 final that would go on to win Ulster a year later. Not as good as Mullaghbawn above, but I would have said a top 6/7 side in Ulster in the period above.  

Pearse Og 1999-2001 Alright, pains me to say it, but they had a very good team in this period, but were unfortunate to come up against Cross at the height of their powers in 1999 and 2000. The Ogs had a very young team, full of exciting footballers, and in my opinion would have been a top 9 club in Ulster at that time. This was the first time though that I saw serious challengers who clearly had a mental block about Cross. From 2001 on, they fell to three in the County as the challenge of Dromintee arose, and Dromintee were a hurdle that they could not overcome. The Ogs came back again in the first round in 2005 and had Cross at their mercy on two occasions, but the mental block arose again, and a few chances to finish them off were not taken. Plus Dessie Henderson had one of his more eccentric performances at a vital time!  :) The real losers that night though were Dromintee!  ;)

Dromintee 2001-2004 Another excellent side full of great footballers. They run Cross close on a few occasions, at a point where both sides were giving their all and the result was very much in doubt. Were the second serious challenger however to come undone by the mental block, when winning chances presented themselves. After a  few defeats, it was clear that Cross had their number. In my opinion, that Dromintee side were top five in Ulster - no question about it they would have been in the running for an Ulster Club Title - they just could not get out of their own County. I get the impression though that Dromintee now feel that their chance has gone and they now play with the acceptance that they will not win the County title. I believe this lack of self belief is now shared by the other main contenders.

As of now, Cross are way out in front and comfortably so. Dromintee, in my opinion, would be second on their own and after that I would see a group of Ogs, Harps, Mullaghbawn with Maghery showing signs of improvement.  

I will quote what Oisin Mc Conville said after they had won their second All Ireand and he was asked the question about their chances in winning a famous third.....'the only team who can stop us is Bellaghy'
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seamusthebard on October 03, 2007, 10:06:52 AM
Max, that was a good Bellaghy team, thought they should have won an All-Ireland. Who was the Bellaghy player who hit the terrible penalty that would have won it on the terrible day in Croke Park?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: deadeyedick on October 03, 2007, 10:53:05 AM
Rufus agree with you 100%, maybe this is why Harps have won only 2 senior c'ships in last 50 years and yet still considered a big club!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SuperHans on October 03, 2007, 12:39:45 PM
Max, that was a good Bellaghy team, thought they should have won an All-Ireland. Who was the Bellaghy player who hit the terrible penalty that would have won it on the terrible day in Croke Park?

STB r u on about 1995 against kilmacud crokes. It was Damian Cassidy who missed the pen. Hit it straight at the goalie who was playin wey a few broken ribs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maximus Marillius on October 03, 2007, 12:47:49 PM
Quote from: SuperHans on October 03, 2007, 12:39:45 PM
Max, that was a good Bellaghy team, thought they should have won an All-Ireland. Who was the Bellaghy player who hit the terrible penalty that would have won it on the terrible day in Croke Park?

STB r u on about 1995 against kilmacud crokes. It was Damian Cassidy who missed the pen. Hit it straight at the goalie who was playin wey a few broken ribs

Was indeed Cassidy, but the Bellaghy team of 96-99 was a much better team than that of 94
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on October 03, 2007, 01:30:22 PM
how did the cruppen/clann eireann game finish last nite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 03, 2007, 02:14:50 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on October 02, 2007, 10:39:34 PM
carrickcruppen beat clann eireann tonight in div.2 on a scoreline of 1-16 to 1-5

need a favour from st.pats now this weekend if our chances of promotion are to materialise!

It was on a previous post
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 03, 2007, 03:02:50 PM
Rufus you are basing your statement on this years league? We trounced maghery in the league at their pitch and drew with them at Davitt. I did mention youth yes but as we know youth doesn't always ensure that a club will produce a good senior team. Look at Down people ranted and raved about down being a team for the future and to date they have produced dyer performances as a team. Granted there has been some great individual displays but as a team they ain't produced. This is a team that was full of youth but went the other way. Corn I happen to know i'll decide on a personal level. If he is cringing by what i am typing then I think i can safely say he will soon let me know. I don't think he would appreciate your putting words into his mouth and speaking on his behalf. So let the man have his own voice.

On the issue of Mc Geeney, He was agreat for Armagh and this will never be forgotten but i have to say i am dissapointed at him taking the kildare job. I couldn't imagine being involved with a team that has taken up a great part of his life and dedicating so much time and committment and then just walking out of it into another county. The timing of it is just not right, Mc Geeney could have went into county management 5 or 6 years down the line when the dust had settled. Part of me thinks he took the kildare job to get back at Armagh because of the way Grimley was treated ( which is not proven ) but i suppose we all have our reasons. I would also be certain that a few euros will be exchanging hands in the process. I felt Mc Geeney should have went into club management first until the dust settled because he would be well worthy of management at any level but as i say the timing was bad and i am sure some of his past team mates who are still on the panle would feel a little agrieved.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 03, 2007, 03:16:04 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 03, 2007, 03:02:50 PM
as i say the timing was bad and i am sure some of his past team mates who are still on the panle would feel a little agrieved.

Cant agree with this at all winsam
Maybe you should take your own advice - I dont think the players "would appreciate your putting words into his mouth and speaking on his behalf."
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 03, 2007, 03:25:02 PM
I am not speaking on his behalf i am simply stating MY opinion. To my knowledge mc Genney doesn't post on this board so he can't speak back to me telling me to let himself speak. I'll decide on the other hand does and therefore can speak for himself if he feel agrieved. I still feel this way wheter you agree with it or not. Once again it is a discussion board for discussions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 03, 2007, 03:31:48 PM
Correct you are winsam


On the issue of his former team mates, why should they be annoyed that he is managing another county?
He has retired from inter-county football, couldnt manage his native county so he was left to either manage a club team or manage no team?
Why is the timing bad?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 03, 2007, 03:39:01 PM
well full back there is a wee thing called loyalties. I am of the opinion that your club should always be your club and your county your county. This entails playing management and the whole package. People will have different views on the issues but myself personally have lost a little respect for him for turning his back on his past and going to promote gaelic games and success in another county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 03, 2007, 03:45:29 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 03, 2007, 03:39:01 PM
myself personally have lost a little respect for him for turning his back on his past and going to promote gaelic games and success in another county.

I assume then you have lost respect for Micko, Paidi, Brian Mc Ivor etc etc
Come to think of it is Bumpy some sort of sports officer in Derry? That means he is promoting Gaelic Games & success in another county - you lost respect for one of your clubmates as well?


The management position within his own county was taken, he was offered another one & took it. How can you lose respect for him because of that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 03, 2007, 03:57:54 PM
Fair play to Geezer, Why wouldnt he Go and manage somewhere else, What do people expect him to do? Hes not involved with the Armagh set up anymore as a player or on the mangement side of things. the guy would for the GAA, and an opening came up for him, and yes he probably got a few Euro, but why wouldnt he take it. Does people expect him to sit about waiting on the county board to get their heads out of their asses, Good luck Geezer!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 03, 2007, 04:31:58 PM
Full back i am not talking about micko bumpy or any other ones i am talking about mc Geeney. Have one argument at a time  otherwise the whole thing gets confused. If one of my teams mates had played football with me all my life and then 3 months after retiring he went to manage St peters or someone else i woul lose some respect for him aswell because i would feel he should be putting his efforts back into his own club team. What is wrong Mc Geeney couldn't have taken one of our ( Armagh) under age development teams?? Has it got to the stage where these county players are above the average club . My main gripe is the fac that it is out of Armagh. I can't understand a man with Mc Genneys passion making this decision so soon. If i am coming across as totally lambasting him i don't mean to because i understand that he is an ordinary working class guy ad he is loctaed in Dublin but surely you guys will agree that mc Geeney going to Kildare is a major negative for Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 03, 2007, 04:43:47 PM
Winsamsoon,

To be honest i hadnt thought of minors or U21's, It is a fair argument that you are making, He is a major loss to the County as a whole. I am guessing down the line sometime in a year or 2, he will come back with some Senior intercounty management behind him, and Armagh will have a great assest on board
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on October 03, 2007, 06:41:12 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 03, 2007, 04:31:58 PM
Full back i am not talking about micko bumpy or any other ones i am talking about mc Geeney. Have one argument at a time  otherwise the whole thing gets confused. If one of my teams mates had played football with me all my life and then 3 months after retiring he went to manage St peters or someone else i woul lose some respect for him aswell because i would feel he should be putting his efforts back into his own club team. What is wrong Mc Geeney couldn't have taken one of our ( Armagh) under age development teams?? Has it got to the stage where these county players are above the average club . My main gripe is the fac that it is out of Armagh. I can't understand a man with Mc Genneys passion making this decision so soon. If i am coming across as totally lambasting him i don't mean to because i understand that he is an ordinary working class guy ad he is loctaed in Dublin but surely you guys will agree that mc Geeney going to Kildare is a major negative for Armagh.
I agree with Winsomsoon. I thought at first you were getting tore into him but now you have clarified I agree with you. He is a loss and there's something going on. I believe he was pushed and was probably told he wasn't wanted for any other position within the county ie u21, Minor.
It's a negative for Armagh alright but what else could he do in the circumstances given that he still wants to actively involved in the association? Thank God he didn't go to Tyrone of Down, that's one consolation I suppose.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 03, 2007, 06:44:45 PM
He was pushed alright. (fact)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on October 03, 2007, 06:45:24 PM
Surely any man can only take up a post he has been offered?

"your club is your club and your county is your county". what sort of shite talk is that. spoken like a man who would never be in demand beyond his own four walls.

McGeeney had been told in no uncertain terms that he was not required in any capacity in armagh. other teams were lining up to buy his expertise and experience. anyone with an ounce of ambition or belief in themselves would have to have the balls to go somewhere with less potential and try to make them winners.

Is McDonnel similarly tainted for managing erigal, burren and harps?
what about joe for applying for the louth and cavan jobs?

McGeeney is a noted motivator & leader of men, is regarded among his peers as tactically astute and expert in the now vital aspect of the county game that is psychological warfare. As his own county considered him surplus to requirements, ifor one am delighted that his unique approach to our game will not be lost.

personally, i reacted to this appointment similarly to that of loughnane's return to county hurling. great to have as many great men as we can involved. God knows we're losing enough for various reasons
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on October 03, 2007, 06:53:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 03, 2007, 06:44:45 PM
He was pushed alright. (fact)


That's the second time today that you have agreed with me POG! I'm getting worried  :). PM me details of what you heard.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on October 03, 2007, 07:28:22 PM
not wanting to start a roumor but i heard that geezer is getting a good few euro and is offered a stake in the ownership and breeding rites of a thorough-bred stallion in the kildare area, this horse is apparantly owned by one of the kildare county board ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on October 03, 2007, 07:39:54 PM
Quote from: dontcare on October 03, 2007, 07:28:22 PM
not wanting to start a roumor but i heard that geezer is getting a good few euro and is offered a stake in the ownership and breeding rites of a thorough-bred stallion in the kildare area, this horse is apparantly owned by one of the kildare county board ;) ;)
Well no what! you just did start a rumor!  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 03, 2007, 08:26:55 PM
Quote from: SouthArmaghBandit on October 03, 2007, 06:53:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 03, 2007, 06:44:45 PM
He was pushed alright. (fact)


That's the second time today that you have agreed with me POG! I'm getting worried  :). PM me details of what you heard.
No don't be worried, I haven't forgotten the lies you told about the 'bridge.   ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RICH TEA on October 03, 2007, 09:49:29 PM
well done to our girls cullyhanna tonight in the league, another good win against the bridge for cullyhanna will do the hearts good. although i was a bit annoyed at one of our well known senior team being abuisive to some kids from the bridge, hope they dont tar us all with the same brush
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 03, 2007, 10:02:21 PM
Quote from: Candyman on October 03, 2007, 09:22:54 AM
I may have picked this up wrong but...  ::)
I think what Rufus is trying to say is that potentially we could have had these players on the field sunday last but for 1 reason or another they were not????

Correct Candyman - the point I am trying to make is that we have haemorrhaged some amount of players in the last ten to fifteen years, and the point about county standard was to reiterate the loss of talent. Others missing include Martin McKenna, Philip and Gary McKinney, Damian Jordan, Emlyn Bratton, Shane Nugent etc etc. In a club like Cross, that simply wouldn't happen!  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 03, 2007, 10:04:26 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on October 03, 2007, 09:48:14 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on October 02, 2007, 04:28:01 PM
Have to say that I enjoy these sort of discussions about football within the County. Someone mentioned (was it Maximus) that Cross winning twelve in a row points to a bad standard of club football - I would disagree with that. Maximus also pointed out that Cross winning twelve in a row pointed to the rest having a mental block with Cross, I would agree with that assertion.

Over the twelve years that Cross have dominated in Armagh, there are in my opinion, four teams who could have given an Ulster Club a good rattle.

Mullaghbawn 1996-98. Bear in mind, when Cross won their first Ulster Title, Mullaghbawn were the existing Ulster Club Champions, and their team had the McNultys, Geezer, Neil Smyth and Benny Tierney as it's backbone, and were still a formidable side - if memory serves me well, Cross beat Mullaghbawn in Silverbridge in 1996 in a quarter final, and pulled away late on to win by 4/5. They met again in the 1997 final, and Cross, the exisitng All Ireland Club Champions, edged it by a point. After that, Mullaghbawn began to lose their big players, and faded away - they were for those three years, in my opinion, a top five in Ulster side - their clashes with Cross would support that.

Clan na Gael 1997-99 Another club littered with excellent players at the peak of their powers, the O'Hagans, John Campbell, Philip Oldham, the Marsdens - won back to back Armagh titles in 1993/94, hammering the Mullaghbawn side in the 1994 final that would go on to win Ulster a year later. Not as good as Mullaghbawn above, but I would have said a top 6/7 side in Ulster in the period above.  

Pearse Og 1999-2001 Alright, pains me to say it, but they had a very good team in this period, but were unfortunate to come up against Cross at the height of their powers in 1999 and 2000. The Ogs had a very young team, full of exciting footballers, and in my opinion would have been a top 9 club in Ulster at that time. This was the first time though that I saw serious challengers who clearly had a mental block about Cross. From 2001 on, they fell to three in the County as the challenge of Dromintee arose, and Dromintee were a hurdle that they could not overcome. The Ogs came back again in the first round in 2005 and had Cross at their mercy on two occasions, but the mental block arose again, and a few chances to finish them off were not taken. Plus Dessie Henderson had one of his more eccentric performances at a vital time!  :) The real losers that night though were Dromintee!  ;)

Dromintee 2001-2004 Another excellent side full of great footballers. They run Cross close on a few occasions, at a point where both sides were giving their all and the result was very much in doubt. Were the second serious challenger however to come undone by the mental block, when winning chances presented themselves. After a  few defeats, it was clear that Cross had their number. In my opinion, that Dromintee side were top five in Ulster - no question about it they would have been in the running for an Ulster Club Title - they just could not get out of their own County. I get the impression though that Dromintee now feel that their chance has gone and they now play with the acceptance that they will not win the County title. I believe this lack of self belief is now shared by the other main contenders.

As of now, Cross are way out in front and comfortably so. Dromintee, in my opinion, would be second on their own and after that I would see a group of Ogs, Harps, Mullaghbawn with Maghery showing signs of improvement.  

I will quote what Oisin Mc Conville said after they had won their second All Ireand and he was asked the question about their chances in winning a famous third.....'the only team who can stop us is Bellaghy'

Sorry Max, but I'm unclear as to the point that you are making, given that my quote above was in response to your assertion that Armagh club football, outside of Cross, was very poor!

Quote from: deadeyedick on October 03, 2007, 10:53:05 AM
Rufus agree with you 100%, maybe this is why Harps have won only 2 senior c'ships in last 50 years and yet still considered a big club!

Two questions in response to that;

1. Can you define the term, 'big club'?

2. Are you an Armagh Harps man? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 04, 2007, 09:05:50 AM
Winsam does not speak for me nor do i speak for him, however i do know the point he is trying to put accross to you guy's. Winsam is a Clans man thru and thru and i couldn't ever see him giving his loyalities to any other team thats his beliefs and he prob expects every one else to be the same, but thats not the case there are to many guys out there hand cuffed to the pound note and in some cases the Euro note, you can't slate a guy for that.

As for Bumpy being a coach in Derry, it's his full time job (yes, day job) he has been offered many mangerial posts in both Derry and Donegal for quite a large handshake if you know what i mean yet he still decides to stick with Clan na Gael, he travels from donegal 2 nights a week for training as well as match days which could be Fri night and a sunday. So there are still some guys out there who put their own clubs before the dollars.

The flip side of the McGeeney coin is if Armagh did not want him nor could he get a club in Armagh to manage (which i would find hard to believe) then i personally would not have a problem with it. I don't feel as strong about it as Winsam does and that does not mean i will give any less to my club we are all different individuals with different opinion's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 04, 2007, 10:15:52 AM
What do people expect Geezer to do?
He wasnt wanted by his own county in a managerial capacity so what was he to do? Why accept an underage development post within the county when some elements have made it clear they dont want you aboard?
As for winsam's point about going to St Peters, I think there is a bit of a difference between the Clans & the Peters and Armagh & Kildare (in geographical/rival terms)
As Mc Conville said "Armagh's loss is another team's gain"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on October 04, 2007, 10:19:13 AM
Why would a man who lives and works in dublin travel 90 mins north to manage a club team rather than an hour south to manage a county team? would you turn down a county job in the first division to manage a club side?

agreed full back. this is one of the most ridiculous arguments i've seen anyone try to make.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 04, 2007, 10:27:59 AM
Did this not all span from Winsam sayiing he had lost respect for mcgeeney for taking the Kildare job?  How can you lose respect for the man on that basis?

It was made known that he was not wanted on the Armagh set up.  Why then should he not take up another county's managerial position if offered it?

I wish him all the best
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on October 04, 2007, 10:36:38 AM
Any news from the Armagh County Board meeting last night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 04, 2007, 12:38:48 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on October 04, 2007, 10:36:38 AM
Any news from the Armagh County Board meeting last night?


Yeh, They all came out of the closet!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 04, 2007, 03:59:54 PM
I think there are only a few of you guys that really understand what i am saying. I wish Mc Geeney no malice at all. he is a great lad and i too wish him all the best for the future whatever decisions he makes. But i can disagree with his decision without wishing him the worst. I understand to that he lives in Dublin and travelling is an issue. I am not up to date or in the know of the county board to say for sure that they told him that he wasn't wanted at any level so i couldn't say that. I do however find it just a wee bit far fetched to think that a man who has represented his county and been a role model over the years would be told that. I am saying that his expertise should have remained within the county, a man of his stature will be a huge loss to Armagh. Imagine you were an Under 16 and you went home and told your parents that Mc Geeney was managing your team. You would be briming with confidence and i can tell ya you wouldn't miss training very often. As i have said the man made his decision but i can't understand how some of you fella's can't see how he is a major loss to Armagh as a county. I would have had no problems at all with Mc geeney moving on in years to come but i think 3 months after retiring from intercounty football and still fresh in the minds of the people and up and coming kids he should have stayed at some level. By the way i also think the county board should have been bending over backwards to ensure this but that is a different argument. They should have offered him two horses  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 04, 2007, 04:03:04 PM
Very well put indeed Winsamsoom.

Are the Clans fulfilling their remaining league fixtures?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 04, 2007, 04:43:19 PM
Quote from: High Catch on October 04, 2007, 04:03:04 PM
Very well put indeed Winsamsoom.

Are the Clans fulfilling their remaining league fixtures?

You better believe it High Catch, we have a few scores to settle ;)

Only messin that would open another can of worms. I would hope bumpy would play a few U21's in that game as they have a championship game the following week. And i'm sure Dromintee will do likewise
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 04, 2007, 07:06:29 PM
The Ogs must have got a new Physio recently and he is doing a brilliant job.

It was amazing that not one of their players went down with the dreaded cramp during sundays county final.

In contrast when they beat us in the league earlier in the year every one of their players, with the exception of the goalkeeper, suffered from cramp in the last ten minutes.

Well done Physio.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 05, 2007, 08:51:42 AM
Quote from: crossfire on October 04, 2007, 07:06:29 PM
The Ogs must have got a new Physio recently and he is doing a brilliant job.

It was amazing that not one of their players went down with the dreaded cramp during sundays county final.

In contrast when they beat us in the league earlier in the year every one of their players, with the exception of the goalkeeper, suffered from cramp in the last ten minutes.

Well done Physio.

what a mature post.  Congratulations.  you're sounding more like cross4Capital everyday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 05, 2007, 09:31:19 AM
Illdecide I would imagine Dromintees line out will be similar on Sunday with a scattering of U-21s. Have not heard much on the match, is it going ahead?

Winsamsoon I am not trying to put words in Illdecides mouth. We all show Club bias on this board, I do feel however you get a little too wound up at digs at the Clans and react with posts that reflect this.

On your McGeeney argumebnt I can see your points and although valid I totally disagree. You mentioned an U-16 coming home and telling his parents that Geezer is managing them? How is managing a U 16 team going to help the probable future Armagh manager. Of course I do not mean any disrespect to to underage football but McGeeney is a man destined for the top in all aspects of the GAA whther it be player, manager or offical. As stated Kildare and Armgh will cross paths once every few years, it is possible and quite probable that we will never play them in championship football while McGeeney is there. I for one will be hoping he does well and I also hope Kildare win Leinster purely because of McGeeney.

And sure won't it add a bit of bite to the championship next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on October 05, 2007, 11:36:15 AM
Under 21s starting this weekend. I would imagine Crossmaglen have a strong team as usual ::). How are other teams equipped this year to challenge them?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 05, 2007, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: altovito on October 05, 2007, 11:36:15 AM
Under 21s starting this weekend. I would imagine Crossmaglen have a strong team as usual ::). How are other teams equipped this year to challenge them?

The Clans U21 team is their minor team so you can rule them out. I've seen a few North Armagh teams this year and you can rule out any one from North Armagh. In mid Armagh Harps and Granemore usually have half decent teams and as for South Armagh you have the usual teams there (enough said on that)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on October 05, 2007, 01:42:18 PM
The Armagh board have had their fair of feck ups in the past few months and McGeeney is right to take a job outside of the County if he wants to, it is not as if we did anything to keep him now is it!

We are in a state of disarray at the moment and some senior players are hating the fact that Grimley didnt get the big job and some may not play for the new man. MCGeeney gets to bring his experience and drive and energy to a different County and I will be pulling for him all the way. The man is a legend and has given us everything he has and he owes us exactly nothing and I for one hope he has nothing but success.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 05, 2007, 02:23:27 PM
 How is Mc Geeney  managing a U 16 team going to help the probable future Armagh manager.

Well corn if you can't see how this would help a future Armagh senior manager then i am afraid i ain't going to point it out to you but it is crystal clear. Once again you guys have not understood because there are still people posting hinting that i am against Mc Geeney and wish him no success. You couldn't be further of the mark. Stew when you say some may not play for the new man, who would you be refering to??? The "new man" has done nothing wrong in this instance. Some people tend to forget this. They feel Mc geeney and grimley were hard doen by so they automatically blame the man who got the job. The Blame shouldn't lie with Mc Donnell. He only applied for a job basically and got it. The county board should be held responsible if there were behind the door goings on. We should get behind Mc Donnell and give him support for the coming season after all the man is willing to give up his time and put his neck on the line.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 05, 2007, 02:32:16 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 05, 2007, 02:23:27 PM
How is Mc Geeney  managing a U 16 team going to help the probable future Armagh manager.

Well corn if you can't see how this would help a future Armagh senior manager then i am afraid i ain't going to point it out to you but it is crystal clear.

I would prefer if the future Armagh manager (and I am not saying it will be Mc Geeney) managed another inter county team and got to grips with what the job entails rather than an under 16 team ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on October 05, 2007, 04:20:51 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 05, 2007, 02:23:27 PM
How is Mc Geeney  managing a U 16 team going to help the probable future Armagh manager.

The "new man" has done nothing wrong in this instance. Some people tend to forget this. They feel Mc geeney and grimley were hard doen by so they automatically blame the man who got the job. The Blame shouldn't lie with Mc Donnell. He only applied for a job basically and got it.

I'm afraid you are not too well informed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 05, 2007, 04:25:34 PM
yeah i never claimed to be well informed, but it seems that a lot of people on this board have heard a loto rumours and have decided to take them as gospel. I would be grateful if someone could actually clarify the whole issue. Marsden you are seeming to indicate that Mc Donnell was involved in some sort of coup or scandal so how do you get this information???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 05, 2007, 10:19:28 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 04, 2007, 07:06:29 PM
The Ogs must have got a new Physio recently and he is doing a brilliant job.

It was amazing that not one of their players went down with the dreaded cramp during sundays county final.

In contrast when they beat us in the league earlier in the year every one of their players, with the exception of the goalkeeper, suffered from cramp in the last ten minutes.

Well done Physio.
Your club win 12 in a row and that's what you have to say?   ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 05, 2007, 10:36:25 PM
Winsamsoon, McGeeney taking the Armagh U 16s may be good for the players who may turn into senior players, it may also be a feel good factor for the County. The fact is that in a few years if McGeeney applied for the job and somehow managed to avoid the politics of the County Board taking Kildare seniors would look alot more impressive than Armagh U 16.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 06, 2007, 01:06:38 AM
Ok corn we will agree to disagree because i still don't think you are getting what i am saying.
Title: winsamsoon
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 06, 2007, 08:47:53 AM
I think your missing the bigger picture here

I will make it simple

Armagh u16/u18/u21 = £00000

Kildare Seniors =£???????

Fair play to mcgeeney and grimley, hope it works out for them and all the best to the two of them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 06, 2007, 12:53:59 PM
So you are a man of little principles then if you can accept money over your own county. I personally would do all in my power first within my own county but we are all different.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Red Hurley on October 06, 2007, 03:56:18 PM
There are many club managers in Armagh taking payment from their own clubs. Fair play to Geezer and Big Paul, Good Luck to them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on October 06, 2007, 04:50:19 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 06, 2007, 12:53:59 PM
So you are a man of little principles then if you can accept money over your own county. I personally would do all in my power first within my own county but we are all different.

you can only make a choice if you have more than one options. you consistently make assumptions that are wrong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 06, 2007, 05:33:14 PM
Winsamsoon

have been reading your posts over this matter, i would suggest you take a few days to think about what your writing.

You talk about principles!!!!

Would that be the same principles shown by the Cross/County board  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on October 06, 2007, 06:36:10 PM
cruppen u21s earned a well deserved victory over the harps by 2 points in a hard hitting game. great stuff to watch of a saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 07, 2007, 02:05:38 PM
St Pats drew with Killeavy today. 0-10 a piece. Very tight game and the draw was probably fair enough. Thought we dominated proceedings for a brave while, espicially after the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half but Killeavy did look a bit sharper up front and missed chances maybe cost us a point.

They say referees play for draw but the fella today did everything possible to avoid a draw. 8/9 minutes of injury time in the second half when 5 would have been more appropriate!

Draw's a decent enough result for us - puts us that bit closer towards the finish line. Another victory should be enough for promotion (I think).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on October 07, 2007, 04:07:46 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on October 06, 2007, 06:36:10 PM
cruppen u21s earned a well deserved victory over the harps by 2 points in a hard hitting game. great stuff to watch of a saturday afternoon.

I wouldnt say it was well deserved, 2 minutes of madness in the Harps defence midway through the second half handed victory to Cruppen on a plate.

Have to say, I have never heard such foul mouthed supporters in my life. From the start to finish. Unbelievable, women and all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on October 07, 2007, 05:06:08 PM
any scoop on who has been called up to county so far?
I heard a few names being thrown around but anyone know the latest?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 07, 2007, 06:11:10 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on October 07, 2007, 04:07:46 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on October 06, 2007, 06:36:10 PM
cruppen u21s earned a well deserved victory over the harps by 2 points in a hard hitting game. great stuff to watch of a saturday afternoon.

Have to say, I have never heard such foul mouthed supporters in my life. From the start to finish. Unbelievable, women and all.

from which side?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on October 07, 2007, 06:13:40 PM
Cruppen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 07, 2007, 06:27:25 PM
anyone at the Armagh match today v louth, what team played
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on October 07, 2007, 08:42:49 PM
Any word on Big Joe - is he just taking things easy or has the bug bitten yet ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 07, 2007, 08:54:31 PM
Dromintee beats Clans by three in the league today. Surprisingly it was an excellent match with both sides kicking great points. Dromintee scored three early goals and looked like they were going to walk it but Clans came back well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on October 07, 2007, 09:38:30 PM
fcuksake - who was your umpire down at the cathedral end?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 08, 2007, 05:22:48 AM
It was some game alright corn for an end of season affair. It was more lieka cricket score  :D but the feeding was all good afterwards,  I couldn't criticise dromintee for that. I would say they are second to non in the county on the feedin. :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 08, 2007, 08:57:26 AM
Weekend results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on October 08, 2007, 09:09:03 AM
Did anyone hear what went on at the Sarsfield v Clonmore match. The match was abandonned, I was told that a man was sent off and hit the referee before leaving the pitch.
Blackwater beat madden in the promotion fight and Tullysaran beat Middletown well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: jungle on October 08, 2007, 09:43:26 AM
some division 2 results from yesterday

newtown beat wolfe tones
keady beat ballymacnab
cruppen won
granemore won

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 08, 2007, 09:50:15 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 7 SEPTEMBER 2007


Tuesday 2 October

ACL – Div. II
Clann Eireann 1-5; Carrickcruppen 1-16


Friday 5 October

Armagh Under-21 Football Championship – 1st Round
Sarsfields 4-14; Eire Og 1-5


Saturday 6 October

Armagh Under-21 Football Championship – 1st Round
Granemore 2-13; St John's 1-5
Clann Eireann 1-5; Whitecross 1-7
St Peter's 0-5; Crossmaglen 2-11
St Paul's 0-7; Silverbridge 1-9
Keady w/o Culloville dnf
Shane O'Neill's 1-14; Mullaghbawn 1-9
Harps 2-11; Carrickcruppen 3-10
Tir na nÓg 1-5; Maghery 0-7


Sunday 7 October

Armagh Under-21 Football Championship – 1st Round
Madden 2-16; Kevin Barry's 1-9

ACL – Div. I
Dromintee 3-15; Clan na Gael 0-19
Harps v Maghery (Off)
Pearse Og 1-9; Culloville 1-10
Tir na nÓg cnf Crossmaglen w/o

ACL – Div. II
Keady 1-11; Ballymacnab 1-7
Silverbridge v Carrickcruppen (Off)
Clann Eireann 1-3; Granemore 1-11
St Patrick's 0-10; Killeavey 0-10
Wolfe Tones 1-8; St Michael's 0-12

ACL – Div. III
Lissummon 2-19; Clady 1-13
Sarsfields v Clonmore (abandoned)
Collegeland 2-8; Crossmaglen II 0-10
An Port Mor 2-10; Madden 2-4
Tullysaran 2-7; Middletown 0-8
Ballyhegan 1-5; St Paul's 1-9

ACL – Div. IV
Eire Og 0-7; Grange 2-9
Shane O'Neill's 1-10; Mullaghbrack 1-6
Corrinshego 3-12; O'Hanlon's 0-5
Dorsey Emmett's 3-8; Phelim Brady's 3-7


ACL TABLES

Division I
P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 14 13 0 1 26
Dromintee 14 9 1 4 19
Pearse Og 15 9 1 5 19
Clan na Gael 17 7 3 7 17
Maghery 14 7 2 5 16
Harps 16 7 2 6 16
Mullaghbawn 17 7 2 8 16
Culloville 16 5 2 9 12
Whitecross 16 6 0 10 12
Tir na nÓg 17 1 1 15 3

Division II
P W D L Pts
St Patrick's 18 16 1 1 33
Killeavey 19 14 2 3 30
St Michael's 19 13 3 3 29
Carrickcruppen 17 13 0 4 26
Silverbridge 18 11 1 6 23
Granemore 19 8 1 9 19
Ballymacnab 19 8 0 11 16
Clann Eireann 18 7 0 11 14
Keady 19 6 1 12 13
St Peter's 20 4 1 14 9
Wolfe Tones 19 3 2 14 8
Annaghmore 19 2 0 17 4

Division III
P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 19 17 0 2 34
An Port Mor 19 15 1 3 31
Madden 20 15 0 5 30
Collegeland 19 14 1 4 29
Lissummon 19 9 2 8 20
Tullysaran 19 7 3 9 17
St Paul's 19 7 2 10 16
Ballyhegan 19 7 1 11 15
Clonmore 19 6 1 12 13
Crossmaglen II 19 5 1 13 11
Middletown 16 3 0 13 6
Clady 19 1 2 16 4

Division IV
P W D L Pts
Belleek 17 15 0 2 30
Grange 17 13 1 3 27
Derrynoose 17 11 2 4 24
Shane O'Neill's 17 10 2 5 22
Eire Og 17 10 0 7 20
Forkhill 18 9 1 8 19
Dorsey Emmett's 18 8 2 8 18
Mullaghbrack 18 8 1 9 17
O'Hanlon's 17 4 2 11 10
Corrinshego 19 3 1 15 7
Phelim Brady's 19 0 0 19 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on October 08, 2007, 10:02:40 AM
Quote from: corn02 on October 07, 2007, 08:54:31 PM
Dromintee beats Clans by three in the league today.

3-15 to 0-19 corn. winsam - if you were the umpire at the top goals, you could have done without the feed! seriously though, are we the only team in the division that feeds the teams after games? should be par for the course i would have thought?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on October 08, 2007, 10:15:24 AM
Clonmore were getting well beat, when during the first half a Clonmore man was lined - he then assaulted the referee. The book has to be thrown at him. A lifetime ban would be too good for him. Disgraceful
Heard there was a bit of trouble at the Pearse Og's and Culloville game yesterday as well :o . The referee played a serious amount of injury time and gave Culloville a penalty in the last minute to win the game and avoid relegation. Any word from the Ogs men?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 08, 2007, 10:21:26 AM
Quote from: altovito on October 08, 2007, 10:15:24 AM
Clonmore were getting well beat, when during the first half a Clonmore man was lined - he then assaulted the referee. The book has to be thrown at him. A lifetime ban would be too good for him. Disgraceful
Heard there was a bit of trouble at the Pearse Og's and Culloville game yesterday as well :o . The referee played a serious amount of injury time and gave Culloville a penalty in the last minute to win the game and avoid relegation. Any word from the Ogs men?


Completely robbed yesterday.  It's not too often I complain about refereeing.  some of the decisions yesterday were completely outrageous, instances where you couldn't understand why a free was given at all. 

a minute after the end of normal time one of our lads asked the ref how long was left, 1 minute was the reply, 5 1/2 minutes later he blew up for a penalty.  this was the last kick of the game.  Culloville won by a point.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on October 08, 2007, 10:22:57 AM

who was this honourable custodian of the rulebook ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 08, 2007, 10:32:45 AM
Gary Smith. Portadown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 08, 2007, 10:35:44 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on October 08, 2007, 10:32:45 AM
Gary Smith. Portadown
the w*nker...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 08, 2007, 10:43:02 AM
Quote from: Candyman on October 08, 2007, 10:35:44 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on October 08, 2007, 10:32:45 AM
Gary Smith. Portadown
the w*nker...

U know him then? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 08, 2007, 10:46:26 AM
a complete b8llocks if ever there was one...
plus it means we have a sweat on for the last game of the league!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 08, 2007, 10:49:36 AM
Quote from: Candyman on October 08, 2007, 10:46:26 AM
a complete b8llocks if ever there was one...
plus it means we have a sweat on for the last game of the league!!!

Thats a bit nasty alright
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on October 08, 2007, 10:51:40 AM
Complete w**ker. thats the boyo who was doing the line when we went down to partadown earlier in the year. he was hitting lads with the flag when the row started after the game and our midfielder took the flag off him and kicked him round the place. who was refing us the next sunday? the same w**ker smith. sent the same midfielder off and got him 3 months.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 08, 2007, 10:53:09 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on October 08, 2007, 10:51:40 AM
Complete w**ker. thats the boyo who was doing the line when we went down to partadown earlier in the year. he was hitting lads with the flag when the row started after the game and our midfielder took the flag off him and kicked him round the place. who was refing us the next sunday? the same w**ker smith. sent the same midfielder off and got him 3 months.

So it's not just a one off then
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 08, 2007, 11:02:28 AM
el cuervo i think you should start a new thread about who's the worst fcukin ref in the county.....  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 08, 2007, 11:07:37 AM
Quote from: Candyman on October 08, 2007, 11:02:28 AM
el cuervo i think you should start a new thread about who's the worst fcukin ref in the county.....  ;)

Work away.  its your idea.  that could get nasty though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 08, 2007, 11:13:59 AM
I sent in a reply to that and it's missing so i have to do it again ::)

any way Gary Smith thinks he is the Terminator, he works in the Railway Bar in Lurgan at the weekends and he has dished out a few beating alright, i personally have not had any run ins with him but other guys have told me he is a tight whore. But beating drunk fellas does not make you a tight C**t in my books. He does do regular threats on the pitch to fellas "if you want to come and see me after the match and sort it out then lets be having you" is some of his finest speeches when the going gets tough. Maybe some lads should sort him out and put that hard man image out of his head but it won't be me as i couldn't beat Casey's drum ;) :D

Anyway a good attacking game in Dromintee yesterday with no defence on both teams, Dromintee deserved their win with their 3 early goals giving them a cushion throughout the game. Yes, the sarnies were good but we are used with getting 1/4 pounder burgers in Dromintee after the game so they are slipping a bit ;) :D

Bubbles was refeering our game with Dromintee yesterday he was shite also but he was shit for both teams, thats the same guy who was in the Sunday World last week for getting battered after a minor match. It went to court and the guy that hit him got a few hundred pound fine
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 08, 2007, 11:30:58 AM
On referee's...
The donkey that refereed Harps V Cruppen U-21 game on sat... ???
complete tool and was the same clown that walked off in dromintee lastyear and huffed in the changing rooms until the 2 captains came in and persuaded him too come back out for the last ten mins... ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tevez on October 08, 2007, 11:33:49 AM
Any word on the under 21 championship draw?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 08, 2007, 11:45:58 AM
Illdecide who is this bubbles? He looked brave and small next to the players when he was telling them off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 08, 2007, 12:37:43 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 08, 2007, 11:45:58 AM
Illdecide who is this bubbles? He looked brave and small next to the players when he was telling them off.

He's from Wolf Tones and his name is S Murray (i think it's Stephen) Full page in last weeks Sunday World for getting emptied
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 08, 2007, 12:58:37 PM
Missed the story in the paper, what happened?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: psg30 on October 08, 2007, 01:01:43 PM
i was playing in the match against sarsfields yesterday and the refereeing was a disgrace. clonmore received only two Free's in the twenty minutes that were played. The referee didn't even know the basic rules of the game, for the record we have had no sendings off int the previous two years of football. We however received two in two games from the same ref. the referee was not assaulted as was claimed, but pushed on the shoulder. This was after a clonmore player was struck in front of him, the clonmore player did retaliate but only the clonmore man received a Red card. another example was a free given to clonmore not being taken because sarsfiels played on, they scored a point from this. a joke of a referee not fit to officiate at an u 8 match!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 08, 2007, 01:02:52 PM
psg does not matter handling an official is a disgrace.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 08, 2007, 01:03:22 PM
he was leaving the changing rooms after a match when supporters started giving him abuse!! 1 clown in particular was giving loads and the ref thought he was coming over to him but the supporters car was beside his so he didnt worry!! long story short he gets into the car and the supporter punches him in through the window breaking his nose and 2 black eyes.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on October 08, 2007, 01:05:03 PM
elcuervo, dats the same donkey that reffed our championship defeat this year, we had a really really strong wind behind us in the 1st half and were 7 points up, he blew up for half time after 25 mins... this was brought to his attention and he apologised and admitted his mistake and then decided to play 35 mins in the second half to make up for his mistake, wen they had the wind, and we got beat by a point!

tool bag....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 08, 2007, 01:05:56 PM
Quote from: Candyman on October 08, 2007, 01:03:22 PM
he was leaving the changing rooms after a match when supporters started giving him abuse!! 1 clown in particular was giving loads and the ref thought he was coming over to him but the supporters car was beside his so he didnt worry!! long story short he gets into the car and the supporter punches him in through the window breaking his nose and 2 black eyes.....

Correct Candy man ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 08, 2007, 01:41:00 PM
Dont forget about yon **** Ollie Hearty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tevez on October 08, 2007, 02:25:19 PM
Saturday 13th October
Classic Mineral Water Company U21FCh @ 2.00pm extra time if necessary
@ Portadown—Tir na nOg v Silverbridge—Jim Slevin
@ Derrymacash—Wolfe Tones v Clan na Gael—Ronan Quigley
@ Camlough—Shane O'Neills v Madden—Barney Henry
@ Cullyhanna—St.Patricks v Pearse Og—Seamus O'Neill                           
@ Dromintee—Dromintee v Whitecross—Noel Martin
@ Derrytrasna—Sarsfields v Carrickcruppin—Jimmy McKee
@ Keady—Keady v Killeavy—Michael Leonard
@ Crossmaglen—Crossmaglen v Granemore—Brendan Gorman

Would say Cullyhanna Ogs game and Cross Granemore game will be called off to the following week, due to minor county final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 08, 2007, 02:37:52 PM
Senior Fixtures

Armagh GAA Fixtures

Tuesday 9th October
Boyle Transport ACL @ 7.30pm
Division 1
Harps v Maghery—Padraig Hughes
Division 2
Clann Eireann v Killeavy—Kevin Gallogly
(8.00pm)Silverbridge v Carrickcruppin—Ger Devlin

Friday 12th October
Boyle Transport ACL @ 7.30pm
@ Ballymacnab—Tullysarran v Collegeland—Padraig Hughes



Sunday 14th October
Boyle Transport ACL
Division 1 @ 2.00pm
Whitecross v Pearse Og—Seamus O'Neill
Dromintee v Harps—Jim Burns
Cullaville v Tir na nOg—Paul Boylan

Division 2 @ 2.00pm
Killeavy v Annaghmore—Barney Henry
St.Peters v Clann Eireann—Padraig Hughes
Ballymacnab v St.Patricks—Jim Lynch
St.Michaels v Silverbridge—Eamon Nugent
Granemore v Wolfe Tones—Joseph Murtagh
@ noon—Keady v Carrickcruppin—Rory Robinson

Division 3 @ 2.00pm
Madden v Ballyhegan—Henry McCloy
St.Pauls v Collegeland—Noel Martin
Clonmore v Lissummon—Tony O'Hare
Clady v An Port Mor—Dessie McDonnell
Middletown v Sarsfields—Kevin McNiece
Crossmaglen 2nds v Tullysarran—Sean McClelland

Division 4 @ 2.00pm
O'Hanlons v Belleek—Michael Leonard
Phelim Bradys v Derrynoose—Kevin Gallogly
Grange v Dorsey Emmetts—Kevin Murtagh
Mullabrack v Eire Og—Gary Smith
Forkhill v Shane O'Neills—Ronan Quigley
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 08, 2007, 03:26:21 PM
I wasn't the umpire at the top goal aghda but i know who you are refering to it was big stag . Our club provide food and stuff after games aswell but it is like all things some clubs are better than others. Dromintee are up there with the best in the lands keep it coming lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 08, 2007, 03:28:31 PM
Oh and i love the irony now about the refs it was only a few months agao myself and i'll decide were speaking of how the standard was brutal and we got a little abuse. Now all of a sudden it is all rosey in the garden to slag the refs  :D ;) i love these moments.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on October 08, 2007, 08:28:18 PM
I'm all for slaggin off refs when its deserved an it usually is.
But lets not start condoning attacks on them FFS! When word of this assault spreads refs will be worried about their personal safety.
We could find it hard to get new and better refs. It takes guts to travel to a match on your own and take charge of a game and take all the stick that they get from players and supporters.
I agree that the standard is poor. Most of youse are talking about Div 1/2. You should see that standard below that and at juvenile level!!  >:(
The county board should be doing more to attract the right sort of fella to refereeing. Slaggin them in public and attacking them in the car park is counter productive. We need a new approach to recruitment and training.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 08, 2007, 10:28:44 PM
I agree bandit the line is crossed when someone gets assaulted .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: younggael on October 09, 2007, 08:08:06 AM
i really doubt if u could say that referee got assaulted
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 09, 2007, 09:15:32 AM
Didnt something happen to a referee, think it ws dessie Henderson in Ballymacnab, he got pushed or punched, a couple of years ago, think they had their field closed for a year, it was club official and not a player that done the damage
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: younggael on October 09, 2007, 09:35:09 AM
this ref never even got punched he got a push on the shoulder and a finger pointed at him.
did ya see mcshane gettin sent off for sunderland and he grabbed the refs hand when he was showing him red, it was on a par with that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 09, 2007, 10:06:27 AM
The referee should not be handled in any way. It is hard enough to get referees nowadays & when this happens people try to justify it. ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: younggael on October 09, 2007, 10:29:38 AM
thats right it was poor discipline but its hard for small clubs like clonmore to get players to play when they are assaulted in full view of the ref, and he fails to protect them!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 09, 2007, 10:37:08 AM
Quote from: younggael on October 09, 2007, 10:29:38 AM
thats right it was poor discipline but its hard for small clubs like clonmore to get players to play when they are assaulted in full view of the ref, and he fails to protect them!

Thats right....but

Again trying to justify it. Dont get me wrong they can annoy the hell out of you, but to justify handling a ref ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 09, 2007, 10:39:28 AM
Younggael every team has injustices were a player is hit and nothing is done about it. I would imagine it happens every couple of games, it is not a excuse to handle an official no matter how big or small the club may be.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: younggael on October 09, 2007, 11:10:22 AM
im not justifying it, i never been sent off in my life, im big into discipline!
surely referees must be up to a certain standard before giving games that affect promotion/relegation.
that referee was give clonmore for 2 games in a row surely this cant be allowed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: younggael on October 09, 2007, 12:40:25 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 09, 2007, 10:39:28 AM
Younggael every team has injustices were a player is hit and nothing is done about it. I would imagine it happens every couple of games, it is not a excuse to handle an official no matter how big or small the club may be.

are you tyring to justify players hitting each other, you either condone violence or you don't!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on October 09, 2007, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on October 07, 2007, 04:07:46 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on October 06, 2007, 06:36:10 PM
cruppen u21s earned a well deserved victory over the harps by 2 points in a hard hitting game. great stuff to watch of a saturday afternoon.

I wouldnt say it was well deserved, 2 minutes of madness in the Harps defence midway through the second half handed victory to Cruppen on a plate.

Have to say, I have never heard such foul mouthed supporters in my life. From the start to finish. Unbelievable, women and all.

I would say it was well deserved. And the two minutes of madness was caused by Mr Clarke's poor tactical knowledge. cruppen pulled a man back and instead of harps playing their spare man in front of the full forward line who were causing havoc when the ball was played out in front of them, the harps defender went and played as an extra forward leaving loads of room for the cruppen attackers.

Maybe if you opened your ears you would hear your own at it too, women and all.

You have to take the chances when provided, harps 2 goals were scrappy, cruppen's three were all pure class. They should have stuffed yous.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 09, 2007, 01:17:10 PM
Quote from: younggael on October 09, 2007, 12:40:25 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 09, 2007, 10:39:28 AM
Younggael every team has injustices were a player is hit and nothing is done about it. I would imagine it happens every couple of games, it is not a excuse to handle an official no matter how big or small the club may be.

are you tyring to justify players hitting each other, you either condone violence or you don't!

The ref is there to protect the players but sometimes you get a rap from the other team that the ref misses "thats life, deal with it" If you can't stand up for your self or you can't take a slap in the chaps ask your team mates to help you out.

I have been involved with many a bad decision with ref's but hitting them is out of the question, i would say most of the guys that hit refs are cowards anyway and wouldn't mix it with the big boys. (i did say "most") correct me if i'm wrong on this, but thats the way i see it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on October 09, 2007, 01:19:22 PM
have to agree with ill decide. laying a hand on an official no matter how bad they are is not on. it only brings on more hassle. County board will be heavy handed with this one!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on October 09, 2007, 01:30:05 PM
have to agree, the ref needs to be protected. if they feel intimidated then the game is f@%ked!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: younggael on October 09, 2007, 01:37:17 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 09, 2007, 01:17:10 PM
Quote from: younggael on October 09, 2007, 12:40:25 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 09, 2007, 10:39:28 AM
Younggael every team has injustices were a player is hit and nothing is done about it. I would imagine it happens every couple of games, it is not a excuse to handle an official no matter how big or small the club may be.

are you tyring to justify players hitting each other, you either condone violence or you don't!

The ref is there to protect the players but sometimes you get a rap from the other team that the ref misses "thats life, deal with it" If you can't stand up for your self or you can't take a slap in the chaps ask your team mates to help you out.

I have been involved with many a bad decision with ref's but hitting them is out of the question, i would say most of the guys that hit refs are cowards anyway and wouldn't mix it with the big boys. (i did say "most") correct me if i'm wrong on this, but thats the way i see it.

im not complainin about taking hits, thats what i signed up for! but i wouldnt mind a bit of fair play the ref couldnt have missed the incident it was 2 yards in front of him! and dont go on about me justifyin anything , i aint it was wrong but that ref was ridiculous!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: longball on October 09, 2007, 01:43:46 PM
what will Armaghs county lineup likely to be this year? will Veron be commanding a spot? in which position?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 09, 2007, 01:45:00 PM
FFS younggael,
You keep saying you arent trying to justify it then say "but......
If your man laid his hands on the ref he was wrong. Regardless of what went on before he shouldnt have touched the ref.
If the ref was manhandled everytime he made an incorrect decision or didnt see something there wouldnt be a referee in the county
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 09, 2007, 02:12:23 PM
I've said this before lads we are all at games and witness incidents whether we are playing or spectating. These stories are then retold afterwards in the club house and some people get hot and bothered because although they were at the same game they have a totally different version. This is what makes the board so interesting. It is like a penalty kick decision. people will say it wasn't a penalty, people will say it was. we all have different views on different incidents. Now we can't even agree on them five days after they have happened. Refs have only got a split second to make the judgement call. It is clear they are going to get it wrong. I don't condemn robbery as i have witnessed by certain refs. But i do acknowledge that they make mistakes. But hitting them or laying hands on them is a no no. The county board will clamp down heavy on the incident because the refs will be giving them it in the neck and probably threatening strike action unless they are satisfied.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on October 09, 2007, 02:44:37 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 09, 2007, 02:12:23 PM
It is like a penalty kick decision. people will say it wasn't a penalty, people will say it was. we all have different views on different incidents. Now we can't even agree on them five days after they have happened. Refs have only got a split second to make the judgement call.

All penalty decisions?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on October 09, 2007, 08:38:33 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on October 09, 2007, 01:30:05 PM
have to agree, the ref needs to be protected. if they feel intimidated then the game is f@%ked!
i think the county board has to take the blame on this one. as said before it happened 2 years ago and how did the county board punish ballymacnab?? they gave them CLUB OF THE YEAR!!! then they went on to disgrace the county with their behaviour in casement park all because they were made out to be great people after what happened. when something like this happens a club should be kicked out of all senior competitions for 5 years, but once again our county board made a joke of itself and we have the same problem 2 years later
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 09, 2007, 08:42:22 PM
Quote from: younggael on October 09, 2007, 12:40:25 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 09, 2007, 10:39:28 AM
Younggael every team has injustices were a player is hit and nothing is done about it. I would imagine it happens every couple of games, it is not a excuse to handle an official no matter how big or small the club may be.

are you tyring to justify players hitting each other, you either condone violence or you don't!

Ok maybe you should reread what I said. I wrote that in response to you saying about Clonmore having problems signing people if players get hit and the ref does nothing. I stated that this happens with every team and no matter how big or small the club is they can not manhandle a referee. I do not see anything there to justify players hitting each other?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 09, 2007, 08:48:12 PM
Quote from: armaghtrue on October 09, 2007, 08:38:33 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on October 09, 2007, 01:30:05 PM
have to agree, the ref needs to be protected. if they feel intimidated then the game is f@%ked!
i think the county board has to take the blame on this one. as said before it happened 2 years ago and how did the county board punish ballymacnab?? they gave them CLUB OF THE YEAR!!! then they went on to disgrace the county with their behaviour in casement park all because they were made out to be great people after what happened. when something like this happens a club should be kicked out of all senior competitions for 5 years, but once again our county board made a joke of itself and we have the same problem 2 years later
Ballymacnab hardly disgraced the county in Casement, a bit of pushing and shoving was about the height of it and they were unlucky to be made an example of because the media!  Wasn't it the ulster Council who handed down that punishment? The same people who allowed 8 or 9 St Pat's players off their suspensions for an awful lot worse and no don't worry, I'm not starting all that again!

Say some tool in the club hits a referee, why, in the name of Jesus, should the whole club be punished? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on October 09, 2007, 09:17:07 PM

Ballymacnab hardly disgraced the county in Casement, a bit of pushing and shoving was about the height of it and they were unlucky to be made an example of because the media!  Wasn't it the ulster Council who handed down that punishment? The same people who allowed 8 or 9 St Pat's players off their suspensions for an awful lot worse and no don't worry, I'm not starting all that again!

Say some tool in the club hits a referee, why, in the name of Jesus, should the whole club be punished? 
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i think it was more than 1 tool that caused all that a couple of years ago with ballymacnab with the ref and yes they did show armagh county up with their behaviour in casement. if they had got what they deserved then we wouldn't have this shit now. what you're saying is it was ok for ballymacnab players and supporters to fight in casement aslong as the media wasn't there??? i don't think so..  once again it makes our county board a laughing stock.. i think the last good thing they done was appoint joe kernan resulting in the all ireland, since then they've been a joke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 09, 2007, 09:41:01 PM
Quotei think it was more than 1 tool that caused all that a couple of years ago with ballymacnab with the ref and yes they did show armagh county up with their behaviour in casement. if they had got what they deserved then we wouldn't have this shit now. what you're saying is it was ok for ballymacnab players and supporters to fight in casement aslong as the media wasn't there??? i don't think so..  once again it makes our county board a laughing stock.. i think the last good thing they done was appoint joe kernan resulting in the all ireland, since then they've been a joke
I can't comment on the Ballymacnab incident but surely this is one person in clonmore, should the club pay for one person's actions, even two or three people's actions!  Ballymacnab got their field closed for a year - is that not enough for you? 
No of course I'm not saying it's ok for any team to fight, what I'm saying is they got punished because of the media hype, if there was no media there I bet there would be no punishments.  That isn't right, in fact, it's quite wrong!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on October 10, 2007, 12:13:38 AM
Quote from: qub la la la on October 09, 2007, 01:15:49 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on October 07, 2007, 04:07:46 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on October 06, 2007, 06:36:10 PM
cruppen u21s earned a well deserved victory over the harps by 2 points in a hard hitting game. great stuff to watch of a saturday afternoon.

I wouldnt say it was well deserved, 2 minutes of madness in the Harps defence midway through the second half handed victory to Cruppen on a plate.

Have to say, I have never heard such foul mouthed supporters in my life. From the start to finish. Unbelievable, women and all.

I would say it was well deserved. And the two minutes of madness was caused by Mr Clarke's poor tactical knowledge. cruppen pulled a man back and instead of harps playing their spare man in front of the full forward line who were causing havoc when the ball was played out in front of them, the harps defender went and played as an extra forward leaving loads of room for the cruppen attackers.

Maybe if you opened your ears you would hear your own at it too, women and all.

You have to take the chances when provided, harps 2 goals were scrappy, cruppen's three were all pure class. They should have stuffed yous.

Open my Ears (have you seen the size of them),  :o :o,

You're right, ('yous should have stuffed us')...Does Cruppin expect to win the U-21 cship (just like the SFC) with the team they had out against a very poor Harps side. Waken up and smell the coffee, if you meet Cross expect at leaset a 15pt defeat.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 10, 2007, 08:55:02 AM

i think the county board has to take the blame on this one. as said before it happened 2 years ago and how did the county board punish ballymacnab?? they gave them CLUB OF THE YEAR!!! then they went on to disgrace the county with their behaviour in casement park all because they were made out to be great people after what happened. when something like this happens a club should be kicked out of all senior competitions for 5 years, but once again our county board made a joke of itself and we have the same problem 2 years later
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ARMAGH GAEL
Catch a grip of youreself,i honestly think you have a chip on shoulder about Ballymacnab. They hardly disgraced the county in casement. All the bans were lifted after there was no evidence to prove. it was only handbags anyway. With regards to the referee incident, he was shoved/pushed whatever you wat to call it, and i want to make it clear that i, in no way condone what happened, but being kicked out of all senior competitions for 5 years, wise up!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 10, 2007, 08:58:57 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 09, 2007, 09:41:01 PM
Quotei think it was more than 1 tool that caused all that a couple of years ago with ballymacnab with the ref and yes they did show armagh county up with their behaviour in casement. if they had got what they deserved then we wouldn't have this shit now. what you're saying is it was ok for ballymacnab players and supporters to fight in casement aslong as the media wasn't there??? i don't think so..  once again it makes our county board a laughing stock.. i think the last good thing they done was appoint joe kernan resulting in the all ireland, since then they've been a joke
I can't comment on the Ballymacnab incident but surely this is one person in clonmore, should the club pay for one person's actions, even two or three people's actions!  Ballymacnab got their field closed for a year - is that not enough for you? 
No of course I'm not saying it's ok for any team to fight, what I'm saying is they got punished because of the media hype, if there was no media there I bet there would be no punishments.  That isn't right, in fact, it's quite wrong!

man-handling of a ref is just pure idiocy and cowardice.  The offending individual should be severely punished and rightly so.  I don't think the club should be disciplined though.  Every club has it's fair share of lunatics.  You can't control everybody.

On the topic of Ballymacnab, I don't see how they disgraced themselves in Casement.  It would be the same with any club when a fight starts, People get involved.

was the closing of the pitch not a different matter?  Was this not because of a pitch invasion during a row?  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 10, 2007, 09:32:07 AM
The closure of the pitch was because of the referee inncident, Basically after the game the ref was man handled by a supporter, there wasnt one player involved. and the pitch was closed for a year. (I must stress again i am not justifying what happened)

The other shite down on casement was totally blew out of proportion, There was not one supporter involved and it was purely handbags. and the ulster council managed to give out 12 month bans to fellas and all this sort of shite, and then half way through them they lifted them due to lack of evidence.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BrianBoru on October 10, 2007, 01:01:51 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 10, 2007, 08:55:02 AM

i think the county board has to take the blame on this one. as said before it happened 2 years ago and how did the county board punish ballymacnab?? they gave them CLUB OF THE YEAR!!! then they went on to disgrace the county with their behaviour in casement park all because they were made out to be great people after what happened. when something like this happens a club should be kicked out of all senior competitions for 5 years, but once again our county board made a joke of itself and we have the same problem 2 years later
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You can't blame the Co.Board for giving Ballymacnab 'Club of the Year' as it is the  clubs who vote on it. Please explain to me how they disgraced themselves in Casement. Unfort these incidents are part of our game, culture?? Surly you should know this, if you have ever played football. We could recall various incidents down through the years in club matches - Og/Clans, County - Armagh/Tyrone Ulster Final, Omagh 89 & the Com. Rules - Nearly every year. Stewartstown showed their true colours in the replay when they had 4 players sent off & not one Nab player recieved a caution.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on October 10, 2007, 01:16:17 PM
how did cruppen/silverbridge and clann rireann/killeavey go
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 10, 2007, 01:23:35 PM
bridge V Cruppen off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 10, 2007, 01:29:18 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 10, 2007, 01:23:35 PM
bridge V Cruppen off

Cruppin will be in tears (unless they called it off)

The ref discussion seems to have worn it's self out so whats next???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 10, 2007, 01:33:06 PM
I heard it was off because the lights at the bridge weren't ready.
I was waiting for complaints...



QuoteThe ref discussion seems to have worn it's self out so whats next???
I dont know what we'll fight about now...someone say something controversial. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 10, 2007, 01:54:48 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 10, 2007, 01:33:06 PM
I heard it was off because the lights at the bridge weren't ready.
I was waiting for complaints...



QuoteThe ref discussion seems to have worn it's self out so whats next???
I dont know what we'll fight about now...someone say something controversial. 

I think the Casey's from Cullyhanna are right fellas ;) :D :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bud on October 10, 2007, 01:57:20 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 10, 2007, 01:33:06 PM
I heard it was off because the lights at the bridge weren't ready.
I was waiting for complaints...



QuoteThe ref discussion seems to have worn it's self out so whats next???
I dont know what we'll fight about now...someone say something controversial. 

The bridge set up is shit - imagine only 2 days after their opening there fecking lights don't work!!! :o :o All this and no fecking scoreboard ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 10, 2007, 02:08:41 PM
Aghda you never miss an opportunity do ya  :D penalty kicks ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 10, 2007, 02:31:33 PM
Heres a issue for discussion......name your preferred first 15 to start for Armagh in next years championship?

McKinney

Mallon
Bellew
McNulty
Kernan
McKeever
Vernon

McGrane
Toner

O' Rourke
Mallon
Lavery
Stevie
Clarke
Oisin

Maybe things dont look so bad.





Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on October 10, 2007, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 10, 2007, 01:33:06 PM
I heard it was off because the lights at the bridge weren't ready.
I was waiting for complaints...

that couldnt be right as the u21 team trained under them last nite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 10, 2007, 04:03:37 PM
Somebody telling fibs??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: upthecrups on October 10, 2007, 04:20:47 PM
Quote from: inthemaking on October 10, 2007, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 10, 2007, 01:33:06 PM
I heard it was off because the lights at the bridge weren't ready.
I was waiting for complaints...

that couldnt be right as the u21 team trained under them last nite

Is true alright - we got a text on monday evening saying our match was off due to floddlight problems.
Maybe theres a conspricacy against the crups going on??

Pints - wat are use at?? ??? >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on October 10, 2007, 04:27:05 PM
McKinney

Mallon
Bellew
McNulty
Kernan
McKeever
Vernon

McGrane
Toner

O' Rourke
Mallon
Lavery
Stevie
Clarke
Oisin

dont think that team is very likely,  i thot mcdonnell has took the year off, mcnulty and mcgrane prob wont be around, bellew is doubtful and i dont think oisin can sustain a full 70 mins football at this level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 10, 2007, 04:34:06 PM
First i heard McDonnell took the year off. Where did that news come from?
McNulty / McGrane can definately still do the job.
You are right about Oisin but there are players of the calibre of Toal, O'Rourke, Keenan and Forker who can start trying to fill his boots.
Oisin can still contribute something this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 10, 2007, 04:55:47 PM
I Personally think that Paul Keenan is not at county standard, in fact he is a mediocre Club player. Played against him twice this year and he never stood out in both games. I honestly cant see what Big joe seen in him, or if Mc donnell will even pick him for the squad. when i seen him come on as a sub against derry, i just said to my self, "jasus, its going to be a short summer". I dont want people taking this a personal attack or anything like that, I just dont think he is any good for that level. but the other players on the fringe that were mentioned are all spot on players
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on October 10, 2007, 04:59:11 PM
just on the ballymacnab topic, the field was not closed for a yr, ban was lifted because they realised the club dont have to pay for one mans actions and bout casement - i really dont think ballymacnab let the county down at all! in fact i thought they did themselves and the county proud after what the ulster council did! there was no evidence against any ballymacnab man throwing punches yet the ulster council still find time to ban 6/7 of the first team starters (2 who missed the rest of the ulster cship and then got back for the league once the ulster council find they actually have no evidence against the 2 lads!) and only 3/4 of the stewartstown men of which none are on the startin team while their was actually evidence showing stewartstown starting member throwing a punch but get no ban what so ever - y, county member i guess!! oh n fergal logan might have something to do with it!! all and all ballymacnab did themselves and the county proud!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 10, 2007, 05:11:40 PM
Quote from: downtown on October 10, 2007, 04:59:11 PM
just on the ballymacnab topic, the field was not closed for a yr, ban was lifted because they realised the club dont have to pay for one mans actions and bout casement - i really dont think ballymacnab let the county down at all! in fact i thought they did themselves and the county proud after what the ulster council did! there was no evidence against any ballymacnab man throwing punches yet the ulster council still find time to ban 6/7 of the first team starters (2 who missed the rest of the ulster cship and then got back for the league once the ulster council find they actually have no evidence against the 2 lads!) and only 3/4 of the stewartstown men of which none are on the startin team while their was actually evidence showing stewartstown starting member throwing a punch but get no ban what so ever - y, county member i guess!! oh n fergal logan might have something to do with it!! all and all ballymacnab did themselves and the county proud!  ;)

Were you by any chance playing that day against Stewartstown downtown, did you get one of these bans?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on October 10, 2007, 05:14:26 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 10, 2007, 05:11:40 PM
Quote from: downtown on October 10, 2007, 04:59:11 PM
just on the ballymacnab topic, the field was not closed for a yr, ban was lifted because they realised the club dont have to pay for one mans actions and bout casement - i really dont think ballymacnab let the county down at all! in fact i thought they did themselves and the county proud after what the ulster council did! there was no evidence against any ballymacnab man throwing punches yet the ulster council still find time to ban 6/7 of the first team starters (2 who missed the rest of the ulster cship and then got back for the league once the ulster council find they actually have no evidence against the 2 lads!) and only 3/4 of the stewartstown men of which none are on the startin team while their was actually evidence showing stewartstown starting member throwing a punch but get no ban what so ever - y, county member i guess!! oh n fergal logan might have something to do with it!! all and all ballymacnab did themselves and the county proud!  ;)

Were you by any chance playing that day against Stewartstown downtown, did you get one of these bans?

Nope, wasnt playin! no the in's and out's of the nab's yr last year tho!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 10, 2007, 05:40:32 PM
Quote from: inthemaking on October 10, 2007, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 10, 2007, 01:33:06 PM
I heard it was off because the lights at the bridge weren't ready.
I was waiting for complaints...

that couldnt be right as the u21 team trained under them last nite
Inthemaking that's you face down in a ditch somewhere!   ;)

I heard the floodlights aren't all wired up and although grand for training they wouldn't do for a game. 

Quote
The bridge set up is shit - imagine only 2 days after their opening there fecking lights don't work!!! Shocked Shocked All this and no fecking scoreboard  ::)  ::)
We might be special around the 'bridge but even we can't make lights that aren't wired up work!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 10, 2007, 06:00:05 PM
QuoteI Personally think that Paul Keenan is not at county standard, in fact he is a mediocre Club player.
He'll fit right in in the armagh panel.

I just don't understand the eternal optimism some of you have.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 10, 2007, 11:57:48 PM
Big lavery is a decnt player but he i an out and out midfielder. He is mxture of Jarlath burns and mc grane he can fiel and run with the ball but he couldn't score wood so midfiel is where the lad needs selected. I believe tha Armagh should shed the dead skin and bring the youth forward. This way the county can build or the next few years. There is nothing special in Ulster so the youth may still be very competitive.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on October 11, 2007, 09:28:40 AM
Lavery scored two impressive points toward the end of Maghery's semi-final with the Ogs.  Is this a rarity?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 11, 2007, 11:13:18 AM
Quote from: Imposerous on October 11, 2007, 09:28:40 AM
Lavery scored two impressive points toward the end of Maghery's semi-final with the Ogs.  Is this a rarity?

Yeh, i seen those 2 points, Brilliant scores, but i still have to agree with WINSAMSOON, He is an out and out midfielder, P mc Grane occasioanlly slipped up and stuck one in the net or slipped a few over the bar. But you would never dream of putiing him anywhere in the Forwards. He hasnt got that Poacher instinct that all good forwards should possess
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 11, 2007, 11:19:33 AM
It's a long long time since Armagh played with 6 forwards who all had that 'Poacher Instinct'!
They usually play with 3/4 forwards with that instinct.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on October 11, 2007, 11:37:15 AM
Im aware of the rule about not fielding (do it 3 times and you're automatically relegated) but does anyone know who the main offenders in division 1 have been thus far?

or any other teams out of interest?

tir na nog will hardly field against cullaville on sunday as they are already gone.

At the top end, it will be interesting to see if cross fulfill their remaining couple of games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 11, 2007, 11:45:25 AM
I think the clans havent fielded twice throughout the season, i maybe wrong though, Annaghmore in div 2, have not fielded a couple of times as well, but they are already gone anyway as well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 11, 2007, 12:20:12 PM
QuoteAt the top end, it will be interesting to see if cross fulfil their remaining couple of games.

Could Cross not round up 15 to fulfil the fixture even if a few lads took the day off?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 11, 2007, 12:22:56 PM
They would get a few men out of Ma Kearneys, and the club surely and would probably still win their remaining fixtures :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tevez on October 11, 2007, 12:39:10 PM
Cullyhanna Pearse Ogs Under 21 game changed to Wednesday night. Think Cullyhanna had to give up home venue. Game now in Ballymacnab
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 11, 2007, 01:16:49 PM
i know the clans didn't field against Cross but i can't remember the 2nd time?? (give me a we reminder as i honestly can't recall it)

Clans v Tones U21 match is now tomorrow night (Friday) with a 7:30 throw in
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on October 11, 2007, 01:32:34 PM
i heard on the grapevine today that crossmaglen will not be playing any more league games this year. concentrating on the ulster championship on nov 4th against monaghan team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 11, 2007, 02:34:36 PM
Well, If they dont field, Will they be relegated automatically?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on October 11, 2007, 02:37:22 PM
That'll be them relegated then? well it will be if big balls brady follows through on what he's been threatening every other club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 11, 2007, 02:45:42 PM
Jasus that would be some turn up fo the books, the reigning Club All Ireland champions playing division 2 football
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on October 11, 2007, 02:46:45 PM

yeah, like our county board are gonna have the cahounas to do that!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 11, 2007, 02:47:57 PM
100% agree with you DMARDSDEN, They will shit themselves if that decision came up, It will be interesting to see what way things turn out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 11, 2007, 03:24:03 PM
Lads there's no point in even thinkin about it.  It would never happen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 11, 2007, 03:39:15 PM
Not in a million years, but i cant help wondering if it was another club, would the same apply, i am officially opening this debate!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 11, 2007, 03:52:16 PM
Onionbag the clans only missed one game the year and that was against cross. They might aswell not have travelled to a few places but that is another story :D. The clans have one fixture left and that is at home to Dromintee. It will be interesting to see if big cathal travels with the lads because he wasn't to interested last sunday but who can blame him. The threats of relegation is the same shite every year. It is just bullshit talk that is never followed up. but the teams should play their league fixtures out because my own club last year failed to fulfill a fixture against whitecross. this effectively kept them in division one football and this is wrong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 11, 2007, 04:11:04 PM
I suspect there is a certain amount of bollix, or wishful thinking, about Cross not fulfilling their remaining fixtures.

from today's Belly Telly
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/article3050380.ece

"I could live with that if we had meaningful league games to keep us occupied in the meantime but the fact of the matter is that we have had a couple of these games called off already by opponents.

"This means that we are forced to play challenge games and that's not quite what we want. We would much prefer to have decent, competitive games that will keep the squad on their toes because the Ulster Club series will be very demanding," maintains McConville.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on October 11, 2007, 04:19:43 PM

Its farly obvious that there should be a top four semi and final to win the league to keep teams interested
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on October 11, 2007, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 11, 2007, 11:45:25 AM
I think the clans havent fielded twice throughout the season, i maybe wrong though, Annaghmore in div 2, have not fielded a couple of times as well, but they are already gone anyway as well

Quite true we did not field in a couple of games, thats the problem with being such a small club.  I think though only one of them counts as a did not field because the other was a re-fixture and fell short on some technicality .  Also were not down yet we just have to beat st patricks killeavy and the nab and hope the tones and peters lose out.  Should be easy enough
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 11, 2007, 06:52:55 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on October 11, 2007, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 11, 2007, 11:45:25 AM
I think the clans havent fielded twice throughout the season, i maybe wrong though, Annaghmore in div 2, have not fielded a couple of times as well, but they are already gone anyway as well

Quite true we did not field in a couple of games, thats the problem with being such a small club.  I think though only one of them counts as a did not field because the other was a re-fixture and fell short on some technicality .  Also were not down yet we just have to beat st patricks killeavy and the nab and hope the tones and peters lose out.  Should be easy enough

I think you are pissing in the wind david, you might get a result aginst the nab, but the other 2, no chance, they are flying at the min
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on October 12, 2007, 02:38:04 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 11, 2007, 06:52:55 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on October 11, 2007, 04:22:12 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 11, 2007, 11:45:25 AM
I think the clans havent fielded twice throughout the season, i maybe wrong though, Annaghmore in div 2, have not fielded a couple of times as well, but they are already gone anyway as well

Quite true we did not field in a couple of games, thats the problem with being such a small club.  I think though only one of them counts as a did not field because the other was a re-fixture and fell short on some technicality .  Also were not down yet we just have to beat st patricks killeavy and the nab and hope the tones and peters lose out.  Should be easy enough

I think you are pissing in the wind david, you might get a result aginst the nab, but the other 2, no chance, they are flying at the min

Yeah I forgot to add the roll eyes smiley there Onion Bag were as good as down, its just a matter now of who will be joining us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: deadeyedick on October 12, 2007, 11:48:07 AM
How come league matches are still being played in October.............Armagh went out of c'ship months ago.........inept county board by any chance?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on October 12, 2007, 12:14:20 PM

following up on the post about the team for next year, the club "team of the year" from division one would probably be:

McKinney

McKeown
McEntee
Mallon

Kernan
O'Rourke
Dyas

Lavery
O'Neill

Loughran
Shorty
McKenna

some wee boy from dromintee (lightening fast)
McEntee
Watters
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 12, 2007, 12:32:52 PM
Hard to pick a best Club 15 over the year, as very few have seen many league games outside of their own clubs.  For Harps Charlie Vernon has been outstanding all year and should be in with a shout of All county POTY, but it'll prob go to one of the Cross boys I'd assume. Outside of the Harps, others who have caught my eye are Gerard McCoy & Gregory Loughran from the Ogs, the Cullaville CHB (no idea who he is), Gareth O'Neill and half a dozen form the Maghery team who IMO could be Crossmaglen's next realistic challengers in a couple of years time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on October 12, 2007, 02:44:54 PM
i believe that marty ferris, and loughran from cruppen  were invited to armagh meeting the other nite, any other new names( keenanwas also there)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 12, 2007, 02:49:45 PM
McCoy, Loughran and Clarke were the others i heard mentioned? El Cuervo can clear this up.... ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tevez on October 12, 2007, 10:40:51 PM
Others called up include Gareth O'Neill, Liam O'hare, Paul Courtney, Gareth Smyth, Loughran, Ferris,
Team for next year
1. McKinney
2. Mallon
3. Toner
4. McNulty
5. Kernan
6. McKeever
7.Duffy (although this is a spot a number of players got get in)
8. McGrane
9. Lavery
10. Martin O'Rourke
11. Vernon
12. Liam O'hare
13. McDonnell
14. Clarke
15. Mallon

Vernon could switch with Mallon and be used as a third midfielder!

Subs
Donaghy and mcCleeland will be the two used defensive subs used
Gareth O'Neill will be the used midfield sub
Loughran, McConville will be forward subs used. Looks a good team with subs who can make a difference!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 13, 2007, 12:21:29 PM
clans beat the tones last night in the u-21 championship 3-7- 1-7 decent enough game under flood lights
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on October 13, 2007, 02:00:06 PM
Quote from: DMarsden on October 12, 2007, 12:14:20 PM

some wee boy from dromintee (lightening fast)


that'd be ronan mccoy. didn't get going either day against cross but has been a revelation all year for us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shooter on October 13, 2007, 03:55:33 PM
Quoteclans beat the tones last night in the u-21 championship 3-7- 1-7 decent enough game under flood lights

I was at the clans match last night myself..the match was very stop start due to the ref who hadn't the best of games. Wolfe tones had a terrible game and i think it took a good 20-25 minutes before they scored their first point. There were a few good performances in the clans team and their goals were taken very well.
I was also at the Portadown match today, they best silverbridge by a point. Good enough match but again ref made some poor decisions. Portadown scored a last minute point to win but it was probably a deserved win in the end.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 13, 2007, 03:59:07 PM
Quote
I was also at the Portadown match today, they best silverbridge by a point. Good enough match but again ref made some poor decisions. Portadown scored a last minute point to win but it was probably a deserved win in the end.
aah f**k
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 13, 2007, 05:58:32 PM
Cross were leading Granemore by 1 point 2-9 to 1-11 with 2 minutes left in under 21 championship.
Ref went down with knee injury. After treatment he restarted the match but went down again almost immediately and game was abandoned.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 13, 2007, 06:16:51 PM
I hear mullabawn have a big night out tonight. Tierney will be in top form i'am sure.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on October 13, 2007, 07:54:06 PM
madden u21s beat shane oneills by 2pts today!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 13, 2007, 09:10:29 PM
Some team there TEVEZ.

Pity you couldn't find a place for Mal Mackin.

BTW Liam O'Hare wouldn't get his place on the Cross team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on October 13, 2007, 09:58:07 PM
cruppen beat sarsfields in the u21 championship in extra time

a real ding dong battle! the ref gave us absolutely feckin nothing! how he gets games in croke park is beyond me!

the referee in the crossmaglen v granemore game broke two bones in his ankle in an accidental collison with a crossmaglen player!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: john mcgill on October 14, 2007, 10:40:43 AM
i heard that Benny Tierney was the subject of a surprise This is Your Life spot at the Mullaghbawn do.  He was given a limo ride to the dinner with a hidden camera showing the assembled guests his lift to the dinner.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on October 14, 2007, 03:52:33 PM
Any results at all out there today?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 14, 2007, 03:57:50 PM
The 'bridge beat Newtown by 5 points. 
We were all over them from the start, led the whole game.  Ref tried to keep them in it with some dodgy frees but Newtown's free taking was atrocious - ref should have knocked them over himself. 
They had a man sent off with 5 minutes to go for dangerously following through on a tackle and putting his two knees into Brendan Byrne's back.  Another could have went right at the end for swinging out of Gerard McGarvey's neck but the ref just blew up.

The two points don't matter but it was good to see some fight in the lads. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on October 14, 2007, 04:12:32 PM
Crups beat Keady by 5 points, 15 points to 10.

Sarsfields 4-17 Middletown 1-03; Sarsfields promoted to division 2.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 14, 2007, 05:56:26 PM
Anyone know who won the minor final replay this evening,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on October 14, 2007, 06:08:54 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 14, 2007, 05:56:26 PM
Anyone know who won the minor final replay this evening,

St Pat's, easily enough from what I hear; don't know score though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on October 14, 2007, 06:37:03 PM
We are officially down as we lost 2-14 to 0-8 to Killeavy despite leading from the 3rd to 47th minute.

St Peters and Wolfe Tonnes both won today im told
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on October 14, 2007, 08:40:50 PM
No Kileavey just made some substitutions and found their shooting boots, they had been the better team all game but couldn't score .  We conceded 2-7 in the last 15 mins
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shooter on October 14, 2007, 11:30:14 PM
Any word on the draw for the next round of the u21 championship? I take it cross are favourites to win it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 15, 2007, 08:43:38 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on October 14, 2007, 06:37:03 PM
We are officially down as we lost 2-14 to 0-8 to Killeavy despite leading from the 3rd to 47th minute.

St Peters and Wolfe Tonnes both won today im told

Hard lines David, So do you think yous will play the rest of your games? How many do you have left?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 15, 2007, 08:44:04 AM
Quote from: Shooter on October 14, 2007, 11:30:14 PM
Any word on the draw for the next round of the u21 championship? I take it cross are favourites to win it?

Clans are away to Killeavey. Thats the only one i know
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 15, 2007, 08:57:16 AM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on October 14, 2007, 06:08:54 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 14, 2007, 05:56:26 PM
Anyone know who won the minor final replay this evening,

St Pat's, easily enough from what I hear; don't know score though.

I left with 15 to go and it was 4-12 to 0-10. More method in the Cullies gameplan, goals obv killed it and they were avoidable.
Title: ACL Div 1
Post by: HalfFitHalfBack on October 15, 2007, 09:15:20 AM
Does anybody know if the Div 1 league table on the Maghery site is accurate?
http://www.maghery.com/table/

If it is, then only Harps have managed to play all 18 games  (if you count conceding walkovers as fulfilling fixtures!)

Portadown are obviously relegated - and have an embarasing score difference of -102... the next worst score difference is Whitecross on -27!

Who do Culloville and Whitecross have in their final games? If Culloville lose their next game and Whitecross win do they have a relegation play-off?

Will the remaining fixtures even be played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on October 15, 2007, 09:34:34 AM

Dromintee have fielded in every game this season and i can see why we wouldn't get them all played.

notwithstanding that is a fixture away to cross which the home team agreed to postpone and them rather graciously claimed the points for...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on October 15, 2007, 10:29:35 AM
cruppen travel to the winners of st. pats and pearse ogs in the next round of the championship

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 15, 2007, 10:37:53 AM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS & TABLES FOR W/E SUNDAY 14 SEPTEMBER 2007


Tuesday 9 October

ACL – Div. I
Harps 2-10; Maghery 2-10

ACL – Div. II
Clann Eireann 0-9 Killeavey 2-8
Silverbridge v Carrickcruppen (Off)


Friday 12 October

ACL – Div. III
Tullysaran 1-8; Collegeland 1-13

Armagh Under-21 Football Championship - 2nd Round
Wolfe Tones 1-7; Clan na Gael 3-8


Saturday 13 October

Armagh Under-21 Football Championship – 2nd Round
Tir na nÓg 0-7; Silverbridge 0-6
Shane O'Neill's 3-6; Madden 1-14
St Patrick's v Pearse Og (Off)
Dromintee v Whitecross (Off)
Sarsfields 1-16; Carrickcruppen 5-14
Keady 2-5; Killeavey 3-15
Crossmaglen v Granemore (Abandoned, injury to referee)


Sunday 14 October

Armagh Minor Football Championship Final Replay
Granemore 1-11; St Patrick's 4-15

ACL – Div. I
Whitecross 2-17; Pearse Og 3-12
Dromintee w/o Harps dnf
Culloville 3-10; Tir na nÓg 1-10

ACL – Div. II
Killeavey 2-14; Annaghmore 0-8
St Peter's 0-12; Clann Eireann 0-5
Ballymacnab v St Patrick's (Off)
St Michael's 0-8; Silverbridge 0-13
Granemore 0-6; Wolfe Tones 2-11
Keady 0-10; Carrickcruppen 0-15

ACL – Div. III
Madden w/o Ballyhegan dnf
St Paul's 0-7; Collegeland 2-7
Clonmore v Lissummon (Off)
Clady 0-9; An Port Mor 1-17
Middletown 1-3; Sarsfields 4-17
Crossmaglen II 2-9; Tullysaran 1-7

ACL – Div. IV
O'Hanlon's 0-3; Belleek 5-14
Phelim Brady's 1-4; Derrynoose 2-16
Grange 4-16; Dorsey Emmett's 1-10
Mullaghbrack 1-13; Eire Og 1-9
Forkhill w/o Shane O'Neill's dnf


TABLES

DIVISION I P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 16 15 0 1 30
Dromintee 16 10 1 5 21
Pearse Og 16 9 1 6 19
Maghery 16 7 3 6 17
Clan na Gael 17 7 3 7 17
Harps 18 7 3 8 17
Mullabawn 17 7 2 8 16
Cullaville 17 6 2 9 14
Whitecross 17 7 0 10 14
Tir na nÓg 18 1 1 16 3

DIVISION II P W D L Pts
Killeavey 21 16 2 3 34
St. Patrick's 18 16 1 1 33
St.Michael's 20 13 3 4 29
Carrickcruppen 18 14 0 4 28
Silverbridge 19 12 1 6 25
Granemore 20 9 1 10 19
Ballymacnab 19 8 0 11 16
Clann Eireann 20 7 0 13 14
Keady 20 6 1 13 13
St.Peter's 21 5 1 15 11
Wolfe Tones 20 4 2 14 10
Annaghmore 20 2 0 18 4

DIVISION III P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 20 18 0 2 36
An Port Mor 20 16 1 3 33
Collegeland 21 16 1 4 33
Madden 21 16 0 5 32
Lissummon 19 9 2 8 20
Tullysaran 21 7 3 11 17
St.Paul's 20 7 2 11 16
Ballyhegan 20 7 1 12 15
Clonmore 19 6 1 12 13
Crossmaglen II 20 6 1 13 13
Middletown 17 3 0 14 6
Clady 20 1 2 17 4

DIVISION: IV P W D L Pts
Belleek 18 16 0 2 32
Grange 18 14 1 3 29
Derrynoose 18 12 2 4 26
Shane O'Neill's 18 10 2 6 22
Forkhill 19 10 1 8 21
Eire Og 18 10 0 8 20
Mullaghbrack 19 9 1 9 19
Dorsey Emmett's 19 8 2 9 18
O'Hanlon's 18 4 2 12 10
Corrinshego 19 3 1 15 7
Phelim Brady's 20 0 0 20 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on October 15, 2007, 11:01:58 AM
Someone was asking who the Culloville CHB is, that would be Shane O'Neill.

Culloville have Cross in their last game :o I think Whitecross have Maghery
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Feckitt on October 15, 2007, 11:05:09 AM
So did Whitecross beat the Ogs yesterday.  It gave on teletext that Pearse Og won. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 15, 2007, 12:31:22 PM
HIGH CATCH,

Youre a legen with the results and league tables.  I dont suppose you have the Fixtures for this week, do you? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 15, 2007, 12:34:30 PM
Orchard county.com usually carry results & fixtures
Next weeks fixtures arent up yet..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 15, 2007, 12:53:16 PM
Yes it's all thanks to Orchard County website.  The fixtures are usually posted on a Monday evening.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on October 15, 2007, 01:21:45 PM
sundays fixtures are on the official county website as well as the u-21 quarter finals
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on October 15, 2007, 01:23:03 PM
Very tense at the bottom of division 1. thought mullaghbawn had 17 points but i was wrong.
so technically, IF mullaghbawn lose next weekend, and both whitecross and cullaville win, then there wud be a 3 way play-off atthe bottom with all teams tied on 16 points.  :o

the word was that cross wud not be fielding in next weekend's game so that wud be a welcome 2 points for cullaville. Tir Na nOg must have offered a bit of resistance yesterday anyway even though they are already down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 15, 2007, 01:40:02 PM

TUESDAY 16TH OCTOBER

Boyle Transport

ACL Division 2 @ 8.00pm

Ballymacnab v St.Patricks—Jim Lynch



WEDNESDAY 17TH OCTOBER

Classic Mineral Water Company U21FC @ 8.00pm

Dromintee v Whitecross—Noel Martin

8.30pm      @ Ballymacnab:   St.Patricks v Pearse Og         S. O'Neill



Boyle Transport ACL Division 2 @ 8.00pm

Silverbridge v Carrickcruppin  G. Devlin



SATURDAY 20TH OCTOBER

Classic Mineral Water Company U21FC @ 2.00pm

Crossmaglen v Granemore               B. Henry

Killeavey          v Clan na Gael            J. McKee

St.Patricks or Pearse Og v Carrickcruppin    M. Leonard

Dromintee or Whitecross v Tir na nOg          J. Slevin



Boyle Transport ACL Division 3 @ 5.00pm

Lissummon v Middletown       J. Murtagh



SUNDAY 21ST OCTOBER

Boyle Transport ACL @ 2.00pm

Division 1

Cullaville          v Crossmaglen           S. McClatchey

Maghery          v Whitecross               J. Slevin

Pearse Og      v Dromintee                K. Murtagh



Division 2

Annaghmore   v Ballymacnab             E. Nugent

St.Patricks      v Carrickcruppin          J. McKee

Silverbridge     v Granemore               K. Gallogly

Keady             v St.Michaels               B. Henry

Killeavy            v St.Peter's                 N. Martin

Wolfe Tones   v Clann Eireann          O. Hearty (12Noon)



Division 3

Ballyhegan      v Clady                        M. McNicholl

An Port Mor     v Clonmore                 R. Robinson

Sarsfields        v Crossmaglen II         P. Boylan

Middletown      v Lissummon              J. Lynch

Madden           v St.Pauls                    J. Murtagh



Division 4

Belleek            v Corrinshigo               S. McClelland

Eire Og            v Forkhill                      P.Duffy

Dorsey Emmetts v Mullabrack               G. Smith

Shane O'Neills   v O'Hanlons                S. O'Neill

Derrynoose     v Grange                     V. O'Neill (12Noon


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tevez on October 15, 2007, 02:00:23 PM
Who will win the St Pats V Pearse Ogs Under 21 game on Wednesday. Pearse Ogs would be favourite, but St pats have just won the minor championship and have some good under 21 players playing for their seniors who are doing well! I think it will be a tight one!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 15, 2007, 02:06:44 PM
Is there anyone from Annaghmore there, who can tell me if they are going to play the rest of their games, I think yesterday confirmed that they are definetly relegated, just wanted to know if they are going to fulfill the rest of their fixtures? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goldenyears on October 15, 2007, 02:48:25 PM
just as an interested outsider, why when for a lot of teams this is a crucial stage of the season re: playoffs, do the armagh co board factor in an u21 competition? surely when senior clubs are having to squeeze in 7 or 8 games in 4 weeks they could do without this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 15, 2007, 02:51:15 PM
They havent got a feckin clue gy.
You are correct about having under 21 games at this stage of the season. What makes it even worse is that during the summer some clubs didnt have any games for a few weeks ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on October 15, 2007, 03:10:19 PM

there are no playoffs in the armagh leagues
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 15, 2007, 03:26:49 PM
Personally i dont think that the U21 C'Ship is any good, At either County level or Club level, It does not get any recognition or very little, they should do away with it, It doesnt go to Ulster level, does it? Probably 90 or 95%  of the players involved are all playing senior level with their clubs, so i reckon that is enough football for any man, Basic season, 21 or 22 league games, At least one c'ship game, Maybe a couple of mickey mouse cup games, and training twice a week, probably since Feb time, The pick of these U21 players will all probably play 1st team senior Ball, whereas the fringe players will all play B Football, Only my opinion!  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on October 15, 2007, 03:34:42 PM
as far as i know, and have heard, there is talk of them doing away with both Minor and u-21 competitions and bringing in an u-19 or u-20 competition instead! this is to eliviate (sp) player burn out and to reduce fixtures.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 15, 2007, 03:51:12 PM
In all honesty golden years if the teams would play all they're games when they are supposed to they wouldn't have to squeeze in 7 or 8 games in four weeks. Don't get me wrong i think the county board fixture process is a shambles aswell but each individual club must accept some responsibility for the backlog. Some of the excuses used to call games off are absolutely terrible. I thought there was a rule enfofced last year that if a team called a game off it had to be played within a cwertain time frame ???? Did this just disappear?? If Cross don't fulfil the fixture with Cullaville and another team go down as a result then this is an absolute disgrace and should be sanctioned by the county board. This is going on the fact that Cross won't, as someone has claimed. I would rather wait and see if Cross do this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 15, 2007, 03:54:43 PM
I have probably missed this but who did Killeavy beat in the u-21's at the weekend.???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 15, 2007, 03:56:52 PM
Keady 2-5; Killeavey 3-15      U21 RESULT
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 15, 2007, 05:27:28 PM
cheers lad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on October 16, 2007, 01:22:26 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 15, 2007, 02:06:44 PM
Is there anyone from Annaghmore there, who can tell me if they are going to play the rest of their games, I think yesterday confirmed that they are definetly relegated, just wanted to know if they are going to fulfill the rest of their fixtures? ;)

Can't see why we wouldnt play them but we do have a tiny squad at the best of times and had only 18 fit players starting yesterday and only 15 finishing so we might struggle but hopefully we will fulfill.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on October 16, 2007, 12:11:22 PM
Is David Mckeown your real name
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on October 16, 2007, 01:44:02 PM
Yes, as a few on here will attest
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on October 16, 2007, 11:08:11 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 15, 2007, 03:54:43 PM
I have probably missed this but who did Killeavy beat in the u-21's at the weekend.???
any word of cullyhana and the og's tonight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 17, 2007, 11:04:51 AM
Cullyhana Beat Ballymacnab last night by 9 or 10 points in Div 2 league,  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on October 17, 2007, 11:50:52 AM
Has anyone heard the rumour that a certian chemist in Crossmaglen has expressed an interest in managing Silverbridge next year.
He certainly has the right cv for the job . Thats if they want him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on October 17, 2007, 12:03:00 PM
Nope. But heard he will be a county manager in 2008
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 17, 2007, 12:04:15 PM
and the chemist is....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on October 17, 2007, 12:16:57 PM
a load of nonsense
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 17, 2007, 12:27:44 PM
Quote from: asitis on October 17, 2007, 11:50:52 AM
Has anyone heard the rumour that a certian chemist in Crossmaglen has expressed an interest in managing Silverbridge next year.
He certainly has the right cv for the job . Thats if they want him.
::)

Job won't be available.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on October 17, 2007, 01:11:16 PM
heard it also, he has a good CV but the present management are still in place so you cant have a job thats not available, they always used to say he only managed teams he see future potential in so pints you will be happy with his interest even though there is no job???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bud on October 17, 2007, 01:44:10 PM
Quote from: Candyman on October 17, 2007, 12:04:15 PM
and the chemist is....

why will use not name him for us less educated folk who don't know any chemists in Cross?? ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on October 17, 2007, 02:04:19 PM
packie mc conville
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on October 17, 2007, 02:04:43 PM
not so sure pints. you are 5th in div 2 ,out 1st rnd championship to the mighty st peters,lost county u21 to junior team in louth .
Thats some year. Should have retained the manager you had last year. Youse looked to be going somewhere with him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on October 17, 2007, 02:38:33 PM
this hasnt been a bad year for the bridge. we are playing our best football in years and that includes having alot of players out for long periods of the year. our league position is a result of a slump in form near the end of the year as a result of having players injured. i think we all know wat happened us in the 2nd half against st peters and there is no point in starting anymore issues about ciaran conlon because everyone has their own opinion of events anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on October 17, 2007, 02:46:19 PM
take off those tinted glasses inthe ,if you are playing your best football in years i'am due an allstar this year. your seniors have gone backwards this year. men there not up for the job i'am afraid. but then your related so i suppose thats why your so loyal.
but no skin off my nose. were playing div 1 football  next year and i'am happy with that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on October 17, 2007, 02:50:57 PM
sorry not our best football but we have finally got a system in place and astyle of play which which can only make us better next year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 17, 2007, 03:09:58 PM
Great to see Brendan McKeown in the Star complaining about teams calling off league games before playing them in the championship. Maybe he should be informed that Cross agreed to certain matches being called off even if they di pursue the points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on October 17, 2007, 04:40:31 PM
Asitis, you seem to be very interested in Silverbridge.  Out of 4 posts you have made on the board, 3 have been about the 'Bridge, and none of them complimentary!  This coming someone from another club as well.  By the way what is that club?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 17, 2007, 06:30:23 PM
Quote from: dontcare on October 17, 2007, 01:11:16 PM
heard it also, he has a good CV but the present management are still in place so you cant have a job thats not available, they always used to say he only managed teams he see future potential in so pints you will be happy with his interest even though there is no job???
I know McConville well, sound man, good manager but we don't need him to tell us there's potential in the 'bridge. 

Asitis is twotwocharlie who has some love affair with Ciaran Conlon who is only interested in slating the current managment (men who were sweating for the 'bridge when Conlon was in nappies) because they didn't treat Conlon like some sort of messiah  ::)

Quote
not so sure pints. you are 5th in div 2 ,out 1st rnd championship to the mighty st peters,lost county u21 to junior team in louth .
Thats some year. Should have retained the manager you had last year. Youse looked to be going somewhere with him.

I've had a similar discussion with twotwocharlie a while back and he was talking about league positions and championship exits.
The championship exit was a freak, the 'bridge were not the first team to be caught out by an underdog and they certainly won't be the last.
League position, we've struggled with injury all year, we'll probably finish the year now without having one game where we've had a full squad to pick from and that's excluding Bellew and Hamill (who we've been without for most of the year).  Compare to last year when we were very lucky with injuries.
We threw in the towel after the Killeavy defeat when the chance of promotion was gone.  Compare to  last year when the chance of a playoff kept us going to the end.
With three games remaining we now sit on the same points we had at the end of last year.   

I think last years management done a good job in setting the foundations for a team, this years management have built on that and have got themselves a potentially very strong panel.  (B team managment also deserve praise)

There is no point in going up to division 1 because the lads, although some of the most talented we've ever had in the club, are too young.  Unlike other clubs who have good young talent coming through we don't have old experienced leaders on the team though we have exceptionall young leaders.  It'll just take time and I will be amazed if that team don't become, at the very least, a strong division 1 side, at the very least!

You say the team has gone backwards - why don't you tell us why, give us your insight.  Don't start on about championship exits or league positions as that only tells part of the story.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 17, 2007, 06:43:20 PM
Yes, he has.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 17, 2007, 07:23:16 PM
QuoteSurely he is a big loss to his own club?
plenty to take his place.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on October 17, 2007, 09:12:39 PM
U21 C'ship Result

Pearse Ogs V Cullyhanna.

Will now be played on Saturday ;D

No it wasnt a draw, the game didnt even take place. ;D

There was a 'vital' ;) U18 Camogie League Play-off due to be thrown in at 6:45 which wasnt thrown in until 7:15. The game itself was 35mins and 37mins respectively a half for a 30min game. The last puck of the game was a 22yrd free, as soon as it was taken before the ball was even caught by another player the ref blew the whistle. The game then moved into extra time where 15+mins where played a half by which stage the word had spread that the game was postponed and refixed for saturday.

Result: Camogie did itself no favours.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 17, 2007, 09:15:01 PM
Where was that match supposed to take place?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on October 17, 2007, 09:16:12 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 17, 2007, 06:30:23 PM
Quote from: dontcare on October 17, 2007, 01:11:16 PM
heard it also, he has a good CV but the present management are still in place so you cant have a job thats not available, they always used to say he only managed teams he see future potential in so pints you will be happy with his interest even though there is no job???
I know McConville well, sound man, good manager but we don't need him to tell us there's potential in the 'bridge. 

pints i think you picked me up wrong, i never said 'HE SAID' the bridge had future potential i said he has a record in seeing good FUTURE potential in teams and wanting to manage them cus he feels he can help them get  success. but i also know your present management is good so no place for him,
i know we all heard this rumor but how true is it???????
you at the bridge cruppin game, was the lights good, who won
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 17, 2007, 09:18:48 PM
Well we don't need him to show interest for us to know we've potential.

I'm miles and miles and miles from home  :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on October 17, 2007, 09:22:35 PM
i know i agree with you, you are one of the young teams in armagh and give a couple of years you would never know,

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on October 17, 2007, 09:50:59 PM
cruppin won by a point
good entertaining game with some questionable decisions given on both sides including a cruppin penalty
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 17, 2007, 10:50:20 PM
I hear the ref was very generous to Cruppen  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on October 17, 2007, 10:57:00 PM
When we played up the bridge this year I thought they were the best team we played against all year.  Cutting through us at will.  Not so good when we had them down at our place but then again no one really was.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 17, 2007, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on October 17, 2007, 10:57:00 PM
When we played up the bridge this year I thought they were the best team we played against all year.  Cutting through us at will.  Not so good when we had them down at our place but then again no one really was.
Down at your field david was the worst performance I seen from a 'bridge team for years and certainly from that team - your tight pitch just didn't do anything for our game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 17, 2007, 11:02:20 PM
Jasus pints you're very touchy tonite.sorry to inform you asitis and i are not related.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on October 17, 2007, 11:09:25 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 17, 2007, 10:50:20 PM
I hear the ref was very generous to Cruppen  :-\
wudn say that the ref wuz generous to cruppen he may have gave a dodgy penalty but other than that he wuz dam poor for both sides wudn let him ref a underage  game :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 17, 2007, 11:21:45 PM
Quote from: mousey on October 17, 2007, 11:09:25 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 17, 2007, 10:50:20 PM
I hear the ref was very generous to Cruppen  :-\
wudn say that the ref wuz generous to cruppen he may have gave a dodgy penalty but other than that he wuz dam poor for both sides wudn let him ref a underage  game :D
I call two goals generous.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 17, 2007, 11:57:32 PM
goodnite children
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on October 18, 2007, 12:57:12 AM
Yeah Pints our pitch did that to a lot of teams, only really Cruppen and Kileavey  seemed to get to grips with it (and even they needed a half).  Paul McCormack beat us on his own for Keady and apart from that I thought we could and probably should have won all our home games.  We beat Granemore with their county men and the Tones comfortably I think we lost by two or less points to St Peters, St Michaels, Clann Eirean and Silverbridge.  Couldnt ever get that close away from home though.  Home advantage really is a strange thing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on October 18, 2007, 10:11:00 AM
Onion Bag.

Ballymacnab was set as the venue.

Suppose since the game is now on saturday the home team has advantage again?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: McLovin on October 18, 2007, 11:25:32 AM
Both the Bridge Keeper and full back ploughed into the back of Perter Loughran last night for the penalty. How then can the decision be called harse???? Maybe the ref was just making up for the three blatant fouls on Loughran that he ignored before hand! For a team with nothing much to play for the Bridge really put up a great fight last night! Their forwards were on fire in the first half, don't think they're training anymore though and this really showed fitness wise towards the end. Field is absolutely amazing! Need binoculars to see from one end to the other, frigin wide too! Expect the Bridge to do real well at home next season, just hope to God we're not still in Div 2 to be playin them!!! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 18, 2007, 11:56:54 AM
McLovin

Whats the story with Cruppen? Have they still got a chance of promotion? How many Games have they left to play, and who have they to play? Can they afford to lose any?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Six Inch Nail on October 18, 2007, 12:01:44 PM
Thanks McLovin, the field is looking well, the new lights brought abit to the occasion.  It was a fairly even game last night and I think a draw would have been a fair result considering both teams played good football at different stages throughout the match.  My two main gripes with the ref were two decisions he made in the second half - the cruppen keeper took a quick kick out with about 5 or 6 players inside the 21 yard line, ball went straight up the field and Peter Loughran scored a goal.  In the first half he made the Bridge keeper retake a kickout for exactly the same thing, abit of consistency wouldn't have went amiss there.  Also in the second half our keeper tried to catch a ball that was going wide.  Our umpire give it wide (there was no Cruppen umpire), the ref overruled him and give a 50 which was put over the bar.  That was 4 points, the difference in winning and losing the match.  That said, I thought the ref was fairly good, he let the game flow.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on October 18, 2007, 12:21:20 PM
cruppen have 3 games left and have to win all to play killeavey ina promotion playoff( assuming killeavey win their lastgame)Cruppen play st pats on sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 18, 2007, 12:27:52 PM
Killeavey play St peters at home on Sunday, cant see anything else but a Killeavey win, Jasus Cruppen will have it all to do, St pats on sunday, going well, One against Keady, who is the other?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 18, 2007, 12:41:24 PM
Dromintee beat Whitecross in the U21 last night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 18, 2007, 01:09:53 PM
We play Killeavey on Sat in the U21 championship, but they have a senior game on Sunday to get promotion you would have thought a Fri or Thurs night under the lights would have been better. We were more than willing to accomadate them but they didn't want to ??? Maybe they are just confident of an easy win and no hits :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 18, 2007, 01:30:46 PM
They play the Peter's on Sunday illdecide, so I would say the under 21 game will be more taxing than the senior one
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on October 18, 2007, 02:00:24 PM
did cruppen not play keady last sunday and beat them 15-10, dont know who the last 2 games against but think on moght be against ballymacnab
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 18, 2007, 02:03:37 PM
NAKA,
Yeh they played Keady last weekend, But they have to play them again, Ballymacnab have already played cruppen twice and got hammered on both occasions,

V Cullyhana
V Keady
v ?????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: upthecrups on October 18, 2007, 02:07:57 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 18, 2007, 02:03:37 PM
NAKA,
Yeh they played Keady last weekend, But they have to play them again, Ballymacnab have already played cruppen twice and got hammered on both occasions,

V Cullyhana
V Keady
v ?????

Cullyhanna on sunday
Wolfe Tones - some night next week i think
Keady Following Sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 18, 2007, 02:14:13 PM
If they can get a good result on Sunday, They should be favourites to win against both the Tones and Keady. I tell ye what, If Crppen get promoted, Fair play till ye,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 18, 2007, 03:59:34 PM
Are Cullyhanna already promoted?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 18, 2007, 04:02:47 PM
Pints, any of the Bridge boys get a call-up to the County Panel?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 18, 2007, 09:19:20 PM
No
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on October 18, 2007, 09:24:23 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 17, 2007, 11:21:45 PM
Quote from: mousey on October 17, 2007, 11:09:25 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 17, 2007, 10:50:20 PM
I hear the ref was very generous to Cruppen  :-\
wudn say that the ref wuz generous to cruppen he may have gave a dodgy penalty but other than that he wuz dam poor for both sides wudn let him ref a underage  game :D
I call two goals generous.
sour grapes  hi second goal wuz nothing to do wit the ref
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 18, 2007, 10:03:24 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on October 18, 2007, 10:26:54 PM
pints was up at the bridge tonight crossmaglen played st. marys university in a challenge game!

great set-up you got there! although you might have a gripe about the penalty last night you certainly cannot have anything to say about our second goal! and i tell you any goal to better it on this new pitch would need to be one hell of a strike!

oh! by the way st. marys one 2-14 to 1-14 - quite a few players from armagh clubs on the st. marys team!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on October 19, 2007, 09:22:38 AM
Quoteoh! by the way st. marys one 2-14 to 1-14 - quite a few players from armagh clubs on the st. marys team!

You may get a few of the Ranch students to teach you how to spell sometime
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 19, 2007, 09:24:44 AM
Who impressed for either side?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Edgeofthesquare on October 19, 2007, 10:02:00 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on October 18, 2007, 10:26:54 PM
pints was up at the bridge tonight crossmaglen played st. marys university in a challenge game!

great set-up you got there! although you might have a gripe about the penalty last night you certainly cannot have anything to say about our second goal! and i tell you any goal to better it on this new pitch would need to be one hell of a strike!

oh! by the way st. marys one 2-14 to 1-14 - quite a few players from armagh clubs on the st. marys team!

Cross were fixed to have a league game against C'ville this Sunday and word on the street is they are planning on not playing it as they have already won the league. (Any Truth in this?)  Would seem very hypocrytical considering Skinny Mc Keown and Oisin coming out in the papers this week crying about teams not playing them in the League this year.
It would be very bad taste Cross playing a meaningless challange match midweek and then not turning up for a League game that could decide the relegation battle.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 19, 2007, 10:05:17 AM
Quote from: Edgeofthesquare on October 19, 2007, 10:02:00 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on October 18, 2007, 10:26:54 PM
pints was up at the bridge tonight crossmaglen played st. marys university in a challenge game!

great set-up you got there! although you might have a gripe about the penalty last night you certainly cannot have anything to say about our second goal! and i tell you any goal to better it on this new pitch would need to be one hell of a strike!

oh! by the way st. marys one 2-14 to 1-14 - quite a few players from armagh clubs on the st. marys team!

Cross were fixed to have a league game against C'ville this Sunday and word on the street is they are planning on not playing it as they have already won the league. (Any Truth in this?)  Would seem very hypocrytical considering Skinny Mc Keown and Oisin coming out in the papers this week crying about teams not playing them in the League this year.
It would be very bad taste Cross playing a meaningless challange match midweek and then not turning up for a League game that could decide the relegation battle.


Obviously a disgruntled Whitecross person who feels unhappy by the fact the Whitecross face the prospect of relegation if Crossmaglen give Culloville the points on Sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Edgeofthesquare on October 19, 2007, 10:15:18 AM
No actually not from Whitecross, just reading papers during the week and hearing about them not fielding this weekend was just surprised to hear they played a challange game last night.
Looking at the League even if C'ville get the points this wkend it doesn't automatically put W'cross down if they win their final game. as that would leave Wcross, Mullaghbawn and C'ville on level points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 19, 2007, 01:40:30 PM
Quote from: High Catch on October 18, 2007, 03:59:34 PM
Are Cullyhanna already promoted?

More or less
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 19, 2007, 02:11:04 PM
As i have already stated all clubs should be made fulfill all their fixtures. It would be a complete disgrace if Cross were to give Cullaville the points becasue it may decide the fate of another club. Thus taking away the impetus to the league structure. I would say Whitecross and culloville had been knocking their pans in trying to avoid relegation for about 2-3 months now. For something that is totally out of their control to decide it would be absolutely sickening to the players involved. It would also be a laughing stock once again as it has been for so many years. My own club done it last year, we never fielded against whitecross and the points we gave them kept them up. This could have backfired this year because whitecross actually beat us at Davitt so we dropped two points to them. It shouldn't happen lads but the county board must have stronger penalties for teams not adhering to the rules.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Edgeofthesquare on October 19, 2007, 03:20:37 PM
Did Whitecross not stay up last year by winning a playoff game against Newtown?  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 19, 2007, 03:32:51 PM
Quote from: Edgeofthesquare on October 19, 2007, 03:20:37 PM
Did Whitecross not stay up last year by winning a playoff game against Newtown?  :-\

Maybe so but what winsam is saying is If the Clans had'nt of give them the two points they would not have been in the play off position in the first place
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 19, 2007, 06:04:32 PM
You see wiser men would look at what is written before speaking( typing). It wouldn't take a genius to work out that whitecross wouldn't have been in the play off if not for the two points given to them by the clans.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on October 19, 2007, 07:38:01 PM
Whitecross and Newtown were in a higher position that Maghery and Mullaghbawn last year, by more than two points, only for the foolish play-off (bottom four) both teams were safe. Not only that but Whitecross played poorly most of last year only to raise their game when it mattered - in the play-off final.
Crossmaglen are looking to play thier game against Culloville at around noon, so they can watch the Monaghan final, if Culloville grant them an early game then they prob wont beat the Blues as a thank you. Actually, Culloville are a team that could beat Cross if they played a reasonably strong team. Outside of Cross there is not much between the teams in Division One and the top four of Division Two. Dromintee without Dyas is just a maybe a nose above the rest, Maghery and Clans are not far off and the rest is a level playing field.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on October 19, 2007, 08:26:35 PM
in reference to the cross v st.marys match last night:-

cross had a mixed team out that was no where near their usual starting 15 with only 7 or 8 regulars.
john donaldson had a great game at centre back, cathal short got a couple of nice scores in the forwards. hearty came on in the second half and dropped two into the net, aaron had his usual game in the attacking half-back role.

for st. marys, wouldnt know any of their players apart from those from armagh, or those who play county football. justin mcmahon from tyrone had a solid enough game, they had a player in the defence mcivor (someone said he was a son of brian) got stuck into cross and fought hard. they had a good armagh contingent as follows:- james lavery (maghery), paul keenan (carrickcruppen), paul carville (tir na nog) had a great game in corner forwards, john mccormack (annaghmore), gareth smyth (mullaghbawn), ryan hamill (silverbridge) another bridge lad who i dont know his name, gareth o'neill (dromintee) and of those names on that are on the armagh senior panel only came on in the last few minutes as they had a fitness examination (bleep test) beforehand!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 19, 2007, 09:54:00 PM
Quotefor st. marys, wouldnt know any of their players apart from those from armagh, or those who play county football. justin mcmahon from tyrone had a solid enough game, they had a player in the defence mcivor (someone said he was a son of brian) got stuck into cross and fought hard. they had a good armagh contingent as follows:- james lavery (maghery), paul keenan (carrickcruppen), paul carville (tir na nog) had a great game in corner forwards, john mccormack (annaghmore), gareth smyth (mullaghbawn), ryan hamill (silverbridge) another bridge lad who i dont know his name, gareth o'neill (dromintee) and of those names on that are on the armagh senior panel only came on in the last few minutes as they had a fitness examination (bleep test) beforehand!
Probably Brendan Byrne?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on October 20, 2007, 08:58:36 AM
Quote from: Sidelined on October 19, 2007, 07:38:01 PM
Whitecross and Newtown were in a higher position that Maghery and Mullaghbawn last year, by more than two points, only for the foolish play-off (bottom four) both teams were safe. Not only that but Whitecross played poorly most of last year only to raise their game when it mattered - in the play-off final.
Crossmaglen are looking to play thier game against Culloville at around noon, so they can watch the Monaghan final, if Culloville grant them an early game then they prob wont beat the Blues as a thank you. Actually, Culloville are a team that could beat Cross if they played a reasonably strong team. Outside of Cross there is not much between the teams in Division One and the top four of Division Two. Dromintee without Dyas is just a maybe a nose above the rest, Maghery and Clans are not far off and the rest is a level playing field.

what evidence supports this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 20, 2007, 10:00:28 AM
FFS - FUCKSAKE - Look at there league position im sure that suppports his comment
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 20, 2007, 09:23:01 PM
where is everyone (watching england)?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on October 21, 2007, 03:28:35 PM
Cullyhanna division 2 champions - they beat Cruppen 1-12 to 0-08 today
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 21, 2007, 03:46:15 PM
Cullaville beat cross - can't believe cross done cullaville a favour but I suppose it's nearly all one.  What sort of team had yous out crossfire?

bridge beat granemore by about ten points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 21, 2007, 03:49:39 PM
Cullaville beat Cross 3-6 to 0-14
Cross had their strongest team out but Culloville got the breaks
Cross were 3 behind halfway through the second half, our goalkeper had the ball in the small square, was pushed and lost the ball resulting in a goal. Should have been a free out.
Cross went from 6 behind to lead by 2 at full time.
Two minutes into injury time our keeper ( Mc Keown ) put a kick out over the sideline and from the resuling side line kick culloville got a goal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 21, 2007, 03:52:49 PM
How did the team line out?

Is hearty injured?  Surely he'd be first choice keeper?


Tones beat Clann Eireann
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 21, 2007, 04:51:42 PM
anyone get the U21 results from yesterday and when is te next round being played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 21, 2007, 05:03:24 PM
Cross v Culloville
p hearty, s finnegan, t mc entee, b mc keown, a kernan, j donaldson, j martin, d mc kenna, j mc entee, m aherne, m mc namee, p mc keown, j hughes, c short,  o mc conville.
k mc keown, for p hearty ( ht ) J Hanratty for o mc conville ( inj ) ( ht )
oisin hurt his back just before half time
Hope its not too serious..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wing_back on October 21, 2007, 06:37:44 PM
U21 Results

Tir na og beat dromintee

Granmore beat cross

Killeavey beat clan na gal

Cullyhanna beat pearse ogs

So as it stands Killeavy and tir na og are into the semi's and the quarter finals that still has to be played are...

Cullyhanna v Carrickcruppen

Granmore v Madden
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 21, 2007, 07:15:38 PM
Quote from: Wing_back on October 21, 2007, 06:37:44 PM
U21 Results

Tir na og beat dromintee

Granmore beat cross

Killeavey beat clan na gal

Cullyhanna beat pearse ogs

So as it stands Killeavy and tir na og are into the semi's and the quarter finals that still has to be played are...

Cullyhanna v Carrickcruppen

Granmore v Madden



Cheers Wing Back, any idea when those matches will be played? is it next weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wing_back on October 21, 2007, 07:23:14 PM
Yea the two quarter final games will be on dis weekend den da semi draws will be made nxt sunday id say
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seanaglis on October 21, 2007, 08:45:00 PM
The 10 year anniversary of O'Hanlons defeating Wolfe Tones in the Junior championship final was held in poyntzpass on Friday night. The 1997 team watched a video of the match in Rice's Hotel. Ronan Magennis's goal still looks dodgy!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on October 21, 2007, 09:47:06 PM
Cullyhanna v Silverbridge on wednesday night is now off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Redhandfan on October 21, 2007, 09:54:29 PM
An Port Mor beat Clonmore at home today in Division 3 to maintain their strong push for promotion.  Clonmore were winng the game by three points with about ten minutes to go, but a late scoring burst eventually saw the Blackwater men emerge victorious by six.

With just one game left to play, second placed An Port Mor now meet third placed Collegeland in a derby match of huge importance this Wednesday night under lights at Abbey Park, Armagh.  An Port Mor are two points ahead of their near neighbours and only need a draw to secure automatic promotion to Division Two next season.  However, a Collegeland victory on Wednesday night would see these two arch rivals finish level on points and faced with the prospect of a play-off to decide who goes up.  It should be quite a tussle!  Just for the record, Collegeland are the only team to have beaten An Port Mor at home this season.

Meanwhile, I thought I heard today that Collegeland lost away to Derry side Lissan in the Ulster Club Junior Championship preliminary round.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 21, 2007, 10:23:26 PM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 21 SEPTEMBER 2007


Tuesday 16 October

ACL – Div. II
Ballymacnab 0-9; St Patrick's 2-13


Wednesday 17 October

Armagh Under-21 Football Championship – 2nd Round
Dromintee 2-13 Whitecross 1-5

ACL – Div. II
Silverbridge 1-11; Carrickcruppen 2-9

ACL – Div. III
Tullysaran 2-6; St Paul's 1-9


Saturday 13 October

Armagh Under-21 Football Championship – 2nd Round
Crossmaglen 1-3; Granemore 0-8
St Patrick's 1-10; Pearse Og 1-8

Armagh Under-21 Football Championship – Quarter-Finals
Killeavey 1-10; Clan na Gael 1-9
Dromintee 1-5; Tir na nÓg 2-7

ACL – Div. III
Lissummon 2-18; Middletown 2-11


Sunday 21 October

ACL – Div. I
Culloville 3-6; Crossmaglen 0-14
Maghery 0-15; Whitecross 0-12
Pearse Og 1-10; Dromintee 1-8

ACL – Div. II
Annaghmore 1-8; Ballymacnab 1-13
St Patrick's 1-12; Carrickcruppen 0-8
Silverbridge 3-12; Granemore 0-8
Keady 3-11; St Michael's 0-7
Killeavey v St Peter's (Off)
Wolfe Tones 2-12; Clann Eireann 0-3

ACL – Div. III
Ballyhegan 4-13; Clady 0-15
An Port Mor 1-12; Clonmore 1-6
Sarsfields w/o; Crossmaglen II dnf
Middletown dnf; Lissummon w/o
Madden 0-15; St Paul's 0-4

ACL – Div. IV
Belleek 4-16; Corrinshego 1-1
Eire Og 1-11; Forkhill 2-5
Dorsey Emmett's 0-9; Mullaghbrack 1-13
Shane O'Neill's v O'Hanlon's (Off)
Derrynoose 1-10; Grange 0-8



TABLES

DIVISION I P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 17 15 0 2 30
Dromintee 17 10 1 6 21
Pearse Og 17 10 1 6 21
Maghery 17 7 3 7 17
Clan na Gael 17 7 3 7 17
Harps 18 7 3 8 17
Mullabawn 17 7 2 8 16
Cullaville 18 7 2 9 16
Whitecross 18 8 0 10 16
Tir na nÓg 18 1 1 16 3

DIVISION II P W D L Pts
St. Patrick's 19 17 1 1 35
Killeavey 21 16 2 3 34
Carrickcruppen 20 15 0 5 30
St.Michael's 21 13 3 5 29
Silverbridge 21 13 1 7 27
Granemore 21 9 1 11 19
Ballymacnab 20 9 0 11 18
Keady 21 7 1 13 15
Clann Eireann 21 7 0 14 14
St.Peter's 21 5 1 15 11
Wolfe Tones 21 5 2 14 12
Annaghmore 21 2 0 19 4

DIVISION III P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 21 19 0 2 38
An Port Mor 21 17 1 3 35
Madden 22 17 0 5 34
Collegeland 21 16 1 4 33
Lissummon 21 11 2 8 24
Tullysaran 22 7 4 11 18
St.Paul's 21 7 3 11 17
Ballyhegan 21 8 1 12 17
Clonmore 20 6 1 13 13
Crossmaglen II 21 6 1 14 13
Middletown 19 3 0 16 6
Clady 21 1 2 18 4

DIVISION: IV P W D L Pts
Belleek 19 17 0 2 34
Grange 19 14 1 4 29
Derrynoose 19 13 2 4 28
Shane O'Neill's 18 10 2 6 22
Eire Og 19 11 0 8 22
Forkhill 20 10 1 9 21
Mullaghbrack 20 10 1 9 21
Dorsey Emmett's 20 8 2 10 18
O'Hanlon's 18 4 2 12 10
Corrinshego 20 3 1 16 7
Phelim Brady's 20 0 0 20 0



How can st. pats be declared division 2 champions when, in theory, Killeavy can still beat them? or is that table wrong?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 22, 2007, 02:54:09 AM
The bottom of the first division looks tasty:
Crossmaglen 17 15 0 2 30
Dromintee 17 10 1 6 21
Pearse Og 17 10 1 6 21
Maghery 17 7 3 7 17
Clan na Gael 17 7 3 7 17
Harps 18 7 3 8 17
Mullabawn 17 7 2 8 16
Cullaville 18 7 2 9 16
Whitecross 18 8 0 10 16
Tir na nÓg 18 1 1 16 3


If mullaghbawn lose their last game does this mean it is a 3 way play off for relegation???? or does it go on wins/loses ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 22, 2007, 08:45:00 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 22, 2007, 02:54:09 AM
The bottom of the first division looks tasty:
Crossmaglen 17 15 0 2 30
Dromintee 17 10 1 6 21
Pearse Og 17 10 1 6 21
Maghery 17 7 3 7 17
Clan na Gael 17 7 3 7 17
Harps 18 7 3 8 17
Mullabawn 17 7 2 8 16
Cullaville 18 7 2 9 16
Whitecross 18 8 0 10 16
Tir na nÓg 18 1 1 16 3


If mullaghbawn lose their last game does this mean it is a 3 way play off for relegation???? or does it go on wins/loses ???

Correct Pal, if they loose they will go into a 3 way play-off. Do you know who they play??? Should be interesting. The points tally is getting higher for relegation, when we got relegated 3 or 4 years ago we had 15pts and that was the highest points that someone had been relegated with but this year someone is going down with 16pts :o :o

anyway son what are you doing on the net at that hour of the morning?? surley there is nothing to punt on at that time ;) :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 22, 2007, 09:43:38 AM
Does anyone know, Are those two U21 Quarter Finals being played next Saturday or sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Edgeofthesquare on October 22, 2007, 09:44:24 AM
Mullaghbawn are due to play Maghery in their final game, but it is very doubtful that this will take place as Maghery will prob not want to travel for a game that means nothing to them.  So it will more than likely be a playoff between Whitecross and Cullaville, the fourth meeting of the clubs this year!  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on October 22, 2007, 09:46:18 AM
Mullaghbawn play Maghery next week but with Maghery being safe already a little birdie says they will be conceding the 2 points.

The conspiracy theorists will be surely scrutinising cullaville's defeat of cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on October 22, 2007, 10:09:06 AM
Anyone know how collegeland got on?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 22, 2007, 10:34:48 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on October 22, 2007, 10:09:06 AM
Anyone know how collegeland got on?

Heard they were beat, but dont know how reliable my source is
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 22, 2007, 10:37:02 AM
Are all this weekends fixtures on Saturday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 22, 2007, 10:48:22 AM
Full Back,

Yeh all league fixtures will be on Sat, Sat is the official last day of the leagues
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on October 22, 2007, 11:05:29 AM
winsamsoon and illdecide
you are both incorrect about last year.the problem was the playoffs last year.even if you hadnt given whitecross the points they would have still been in the playoffs as wolfe tones were the only team that automatically went down and 2 points would have made no difference.only for the playoffs last year newtown wouldnt be in division 2 as they didnt finish second from bottom
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on October 22, 2007, 11:39:13 AM
Lissan 2-11
C'Land 0-9

IN Results page
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Feckitt on October 22, 2007, 11:51:52 AM
According to the results Cullaville won and Whitecross lost.  I thought that this scenario meant Whitecross would be relegated, but according to the latest league table they are still level on points.  Is this correct?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 22, 2007, 12:18:18 PM
Whitecross beat Maghery by 3 points - so the league tables are indeed correct.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 22, 2007, 12:37:49 PM
Quote from: altovito on October 22, 2007, 11:05:29 AM
winsamsoon and illdecide
you are both incorrect about last year.the problem was the playoffs last year.even if you hadnt given whitecross the points they would have still been in the playoffs as wolfe tones were the only team that automatically went down and 2 points would have made no difference.only for the playoffs last year newtown wouldnt be in division 2 as they didnt finish second from bottom

Well there you go!!!  It's not often i'm right but on this occasion i'm wrong again ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tevez on October 22, 2007, 02:27:03 PM
Cullyhanna beat the Ogs in the under 21 championship. Didn't see that one coming. Was anyone at the match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 22, 2007, 02:55:39 PM

WEDNESDAY 24TH OCTOBER

Boyle Transport

ACL Division 3

Collegeland v An Port Mor - P.Hughes



SATURDAY 27TH OCTOBER

Classic Mineral Water Company U21FC @ 2.00pm

St. Patricks v Carrickcruppin - S.O'Neill



Boyle Transport

ACL Division 1 @ 4.00pm

Pearse Og v Crossmaglen - E.Nugent

Clan na Gael v Dromintee - R.Quigley

Mullabawn v Maghery - P.Duffy

ACL Division 4 @ 4.00pm

O'Hanlons v Derrynoose - G.Smith

Eire Og v Shane O'Neills - S.McClelland

Grange v Belleek - K.Murtagh

 

SUNDAY 28TH OCTOBER

Classic Mineral Water Company U21FC @ 2.00pm

Granemore v Madden - M.Leonard



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on October 22, 2007, 03:00:43 PM
stpats must have a good underage structure with winning u16 and minors and now u21 in latter stages.
killeavey deserved to go up,cruppen not been consistent enough this year.stpats are worthy winners of the league and should give give a good account of themselves in the top division from what i have seen.how crossmaglen can bleat in the papers about teams not playing them then go out and let culloville beat them.strange taking hearty off. culloville blues score a goal in last minute when 2 points down.i an sure whitecross are happy :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Edgeofthesquare on October 22, 2007, 03:37:17 PM
Whether the C'ville result was a strange one or Cullaville actually are better than the All Ireland Champions and good enough to beat them  ::) is neither here nor there, the fact is the dreaded playoffs is now what faces these 2 teams, and at the end of the day the team good enough to stay in Div1 will win.  Should be an interesting affair tho, with both teams having beat each other in the league this year with Whitecross winning Championship the final by a single point,....... Wouldn't like to take bets on this one ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 22, 2007, 03:52:50 PM
Who's favourites to win the U21 championship now, Granemore should give it a good shot, with a good win over Cross, Although i was talking to a man yesterday and he told me this Cruppen team is the business! any comments?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TG4 on October 22, 2007, 03:54:36 PM
it seems to me from the team that crossfire has listed that cross had their strongest available team out against culloville. i think it might be slightly unfair to cullloville to  say that cross allowed culloville to win this game.the fact is that cross were only beaten by one other team this year in a competitive fixture so i say fair play to culloville. they needed to win to get into a play off position and they got it. from what i have heard culloville lead the match for practically the whole game with cross only taking the lead with around 5 mins left. i also find it very hard to believe that players of the calibre of the mc entee twins, donaldson, aaron kernan, oisin mc conville etc would simply allow culloville to beat them. one thing you can always be sure of when playing cross is that you will get nothing handy against them and they are not reknowned for doing any favours for opposing teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 22, 2007, 04:14:44 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 22, 2007, 03:52:50 PM
Who's favourites to win the U21 championship now, Granemore should give it a good shot, with a good win over Cross, Although i was talking to a man yesterday and he told me this Cruppen team is the business! any comments?
'Cruppen?? not from what I seen of them v the Harps, Granemore have to be favs, weren't they the corresponding minor champs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 22, 2007, 04:16:06 PM
Aye i think they were alright, they beat cross after a replay again,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on October 22, 2007, 07:44:27 PM
granemore now playin madden on sunday in u21!! granemore should beat madden as they have several main men out injured!granemor now hot favourites!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 23, 2007, 08:39:01 AM
Does anyone know who Whitecross play in the Ulster Intermediate? and When?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 23, 2007, 08:59:42 AM
Hardstation,

It was Whitcross that won the Intermediate this year, Tyholland played Downpatrick on Sunday before the monghan final in the 1st round of the ulster intermediate, and beat them well,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 23, 2007, 09:05:45 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 23, 2007, 09:04:02 AM
Sorry, I meant Whitecross. I read that about Downpatrick & Tyholland but wondered about it. That's right and strange. Why don't the same counties play each other in all competitions?
???

Not sure, Dont know what the craic is,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 23, 2007, 09:09:57 AM
Hardstation,

Collegeland were beat in the Ulster Junior by Lissan on sunday in the Ulster Junior C'Ship, They are the derry junior champions
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 23, 2007, 09:11:35 AM
Think it was, Last year, Cross played the cavan champs, As did Ballymacnab, and Port Mor, Maybe someone has made a decision to change all that for whatever reason
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on October 23, 2007, 12:05:32 PM
Whiecross play Derry Intermediate Champions Newbrigde on Nov 4. It will be played as part of a double or triple, as to where, it depends on the work being done in Celtic Park. Ulster Council have no fixed venue but all Derry Champions (Jnr, Int, Snr) have home advantage.
Hope that helps a bit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tevez on October 23, 2007, 01:41:20 PM
Did anyone see the Cullyhanna Ogs under 21 game. Any thoughts/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on October 23, 2007, 08:02:29 PM
The year we won the junior we played eskra and Cross played the Monaghan champions
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Edgeofthesquare on October 24, 2007, 12:04:47 PM
I think it was an open draw for each level......
Here is how the Intermediate Draw looks

Ulster Club Intermediate Football Championship 2007
 
Preliminary Round
  21st Oct                                                                
Tyholland (Monaghan) v Downpatrick (Down) at Monaghan    
                         
Quarter Finals                                              
  4th Nov                                                            
Newbridge (Derry) v Whitecross (Armagh) at Derry                                        
Fanad Gaels (Donegal) v Killyamn (Tyrone) at Donegal                                    
Dunloy (Antrim) v Kinawley (Fermanagh)   at Antrim                                          
Ballinagh (Cavan) v Tyholland (Monaghan) at Monaghan                                        
                                     
Semi Finals                                              
  18th Nov                                                                
Derry/Armagh v Antrim/Fermanagh                                          
Donegal/Tyrone v Cavan/Monaghan/Down    
                         
Final                                                      
  25th Nov    
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 24, 2007, 12:27:06 PM
REading the article on the main board about the Cork player targeted by Carlton Blues AFL team, and they mentioned an Armagh teenager being recruited, anyone any idea?? ( I presume it's not Dyas they talking about).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 24, 2007, 12:40:57 PM
Bambi McCourt.... He's been out there for over a year already "training"!!!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Edgeofthesquare on October 24, 2007, 12:50:08 PM
Who is Bambi Mc Court? Who does he play for? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 24, 2007, 12:52:13 PM
Quote from: Edgeofthesquare on October 24, 2007, 12:50:08 PM
Who is Bambi Mc Court? Who does he play for? ???
Its only a wind-up among harps folk.... he's a young lad used to play county minor and for the harps then left for Oz a year ago to work!!
Complete mental patient.... ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on October 24, 2007, 03:11:21 PM
Bambi has a fine career ahead of him, I heard he was helpin out at the Swans?? rub downs?
Title: ACL Division Three
Post by: Redhandfan on October 24, 2007, 11:03:50 PM
Collegeland defeated An Port Mor by two points, tonight, in the big Division Three promotion clash at floodlit Abbey Park.  This result means Collegeland and An Port Mor finish the league in joint second position.  As they are on the same number of league points, they must now meet again in a play-off to decide who gains promotion to the second division next season.

Unfortunately, the main talking point from this game was the absolutely shocking display by referee Padraig Hughes.  The highly regarded Cross whistler had a complete nightmare and angered the large number of An Port Mor supporters with most of his decisions.   He set out his stall early in the game by awarding Collegeland several close-in frees which saw them race into a 0-7 to 0-1 lead in the first half.  He also showed An Port Mor's dangerman in attack, Christopher Lennon, a straight red early in the match for some back-chat.  

Six points down and one man down approaching the end of the first half, An Port Mor did haul themselves back into contention by the break with a goal and a point to trail 1-2 to 0-7.  Although Hughes did send Collegeland's Brian McGeary off for a second yellow card offence midway through the second half, he continued to anger the An Port Mor support by awarding the vast majority of free-kicks to Collegeland.  An Port Mor got to within a point of the winners late in the match and also had a good point by Gary Traynor signalled wide by the umpire.  The Blackwater men did not play well tonight but their cause was certainly not helped by the match officials, including one Oliver Hardy (from Belleek) on the sideline.

An Port Mor have lost to Collegeland twice in the league this year and will be hoping it is a case of third time lucky when they meet in the forthcoming promotion play-off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Edgeofthesquare on October 24, 2007, 11:20:40 PM
I hear Mullaghbawn were playing against Maghery tonight in Silverbridge,.. Any word on the result?
Title: Re: ACL Division Three
Post by: stew on October 24, 2007, 11:56:28 PM
Quote from: Redhandfan on October 24, 2007, 11:03:50 PM
Collegeland defeated An Port Mor by two points, tonight, in the big Division Three promotion clash at floodlit Abbey Park.  This result means Collegeland and An Port Mor finish the league in joint second position.  As they are on the same number of league points, they must now meet again in a play-off to decide who gains promotion to the second division next season.

Unfortunately, the main talking point from this game was the absolutely shocking display by referee Padraig Hughes.  The highly regarded Cross whistler had a complete nightmare and angered the large number of An Port Mor supporters with most of his decisions.   He set out his stall early in the game by awarding Collegeland several close-in frees which saw them race into a 0-7 to 0-1 lead in the first half.  He also showed An Port Mor's dangerman in attack, Christopher Lennon, a straight red early in the match for some back-chat.  

Six points down and one man down approaching the end of the first half, An Port Mor did haul themselves back into contention by the break with a goal and a point to trail 1-2 to 0-7.  Although Hughes did send Collegeland's Brian McGeary off for a second yellow card offence midway through the second half, he continued to anger the An Port Mor support by awarding the vast majority of free-kicks to Collegeland.  An Port Mor got to within a point of the winners late in the match and also had a good point by Gary Traynor signalled wide by the umpire.  The Blackwater men did not play well tonight but their cause was certainly not helped by the match officials, including one Oliver Hardy (from Belleek) on the sideline.

An Port Mor have lost to Collegeland twice in the league this year and will be hoping it is a case of third time lucky when they meet in the forthcoming promotion play-off.

RHF are you still involved with Blackwatertown?

I never had any time for that club, they were always a bunch of louts and back in my day they were always fighting and were nearly as bad as Clady.

RHF I am surprised that you didnt state that the ref caught the ball and from the edge of the square rifled a shot into the blackwatertown goal. That report smacks of bias............. and to think you were all over rufus for his reports on the Harps thread.

Up Collegeland.  ;D
Title: Re: ACL Division Three
Post by: Onion Bag on October 25, 2007, 08:22:51 AM
Quote from: stew on October 24, 2007, 11:56:28 PM
Quote from: Redhandfan on October 24, 2007, 11:03:50 PM
Collegeland defeated An Port Mor by two points, tonight, in the big Division Three promotion clash at floodlit Abbey Park.  This result means Collegeland and An Port Mor finish the league in joint second position.  As they are on the same number of league points, they must now meet again in a play-off to decide who gains promotion to the second division next season.

Unfortunately, the main talking point from this game was the absolutely shocking display by referee Padraig Hughes.  The highly regarded Cross whistler had a complete nightmare and angered the large number of An Port Mor supporters with most of his decisions.   He set out his stall early in the game by awarding Collegeland several close-in frees which saw them race into a 0-7 to 0-1 lead in the first half.  He also showed An Port Mor's dangerman in attack, Christopher Lennon, a straight red early in the match for some back-chat.  

Six points down and one man down approaching the end of the first half, An Port Mor did haul themselves back into contention by the break with a goal and a point to trail 1-2 to 0-7.  Although Hughes did send Collegeland's Brian McGeary off for a second yellow card offence midway through the second half, he continued to anger the An Port Mor support by awarding the vast majority of free-kicks to Collegeland.  An Port Mor got to within a point of the winners late in the match and also had a good point by Gary Traynor signalled wide by the umpire.  The Blackwater men did not play well tonight but their cause was certainly not helped by the match officials, including one Oliver Hardy (from Belleek) on the sideline.

An Port Mor have lost to Collegeland twice in the league this year and will be hoping it is a case of third time lucky when they meet in the forthcoming promotion play-off.

RHF are you still involved with Blackwatertown?

I never had any time for that club, they were always a bunch of louts and back in my day they were always fighting and were nearly as bad as Clady.

RHF I am surprised that you didnt state that the ref caught the ball and from the edge of the square rifled a shot into the blackwatertown goal. That report smacks of bias............. and to think you were all over rufus for his reports on the Harps thread.

Up Collegeland.  ;D

I would have to agree with Stew on this one, Port Mor always had a reputation for being a mouthy bunch, And at underage were consistently fighting week in week out, I hope Collegeland beat them again and go up, GO ON COLLEGELAND!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 25, 2007, 08:47:31 AM
I agree. C'mon Collegeland ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 25, 2007, 09:54:55 AM
Ha ha ha it didn't take ye long getting to another Armagh club game RHF!!

Fair play till ye! - & your wind up on the Harps thread seems to have hit a nerve too!

An Port Mor did have a bad reputation, but I think their current senior panel has shed a lot of that bad culture that some of their predecessors would have been associated with.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on October 25, 2007, 10:00:38 AM
Quote from: Edgeofthesquare on October 24, 2007, 11:20:40 PM
I hear Mullaghbawn were playing against Maghery tonight in Silverbridge,.. Any word on the result?

i thoguht this was fixed for the weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 25, 2007, 10:21:32 AM
Quote from: Kentucky Blue on October 25, 2007, 10:00:38 AM
Quote from: Edgeofthesquare on October 24, 2007, 11:20:40 PM
I hear Mullaghbawn were playing against Maghery tonight in Silverbridge,.. Any word on the result?

i thoguht this was fixed for the weekend?

Yeh, it is fixed for saturday evening @ 04:00pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on October 25, 2007, 10:28:23 AM
are there any Mullaghbawn posters on the board at all!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on October 25, 2007, 10:28:58 AM
Quote:
I agree. C'mon Collegeland


Defo, collegeland all the way.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on October 25, 2007, 10:51:01 AM
Quotethoguht this was fixed for the weekend?

The word Fixed seems to be overused at this time of the year in Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 25, 2007, 12:20:13 PM
i heard that crop in the club last night again about how teams would be relegated if they did not field 3 times and they were reffeering to Dromintee. K Brady will relegate teams to div 4 for this crime. He wouldn't have the balls for this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 25, 2007, 12:45:44 PM

Quote from: illdecide on October 25, 2007, 12:20:13 PM
i heard that crop in the club last night again about how teams would be relegated if they did not field 3 times and they were reffeering to Dromintee. K Brady will relegate teams to div 4 for this crime. He wouldn't have the balls for this.
What teams are in danger of being relegated due to this new regulation?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 25, 2007, 03:29:51 PM
Quote from: High Catch on October 25, 2007, 12:45:44 PM

Quote from: illdecide on October 25, 2007, 12:20:13 PM
i heard that crop in the club last night again about how teams would be relegated if they did not field 3 times and they were reffeering to Dromintee. K Brady will relegate teams to div 4 for this crime. He wouldn't have the balls for this.
What teams are in danger of being relegated due to this new regulation?

Well apparently Dromintee have not fielded twice this year and if they do it again on sat against Clans that would make it 3 and Div 4. I would love him to try than one on with Cross :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 25, 2007, 03:49:27 PM
It is the same old story they won't turn up and nothing will happen so we should all go out on the lash on the friday night and possibly the sat for the end of year do.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 25, 2007, 03:53:57 PM
Just on that note lads, what about a get together or some sort of a christmas do for all the lads on the board so we can all see who is who :) or would this blow a few identities and cause a few minor ructions :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 25, 2007, 03:57:18 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 25, 2007, 03:53:57 PM
Just on that note lads, what about a get together or some sort of a christmas do for all the lads on the board so we can all see who is who :) or would this blow a few identities and cause a few minor ructions :)
bad idea after some of the bitching that has happened here.... some of the lads will get a drop of the drink in them and try and box?!?!?  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on October 25, 2007, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 25, 2007, 03:53:57 PM
Just on that note lads, what about a get together or some sort of a christmas do for all the lads on the board so we can all see who is who :) or would this blow a few identities and cause a few minor ructions :)

now, is this just a get together for the Armagh boys, as even though i play for St. Paul's in Holywood, I am originally from Mullaghbawn, or for the board as a whole, as i would definately be up for either option!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 25, 2007, 05:54:14 PM
no anyone would be welcome, st Paul's . I think it would be a bit of craic and there may be a few village idiots but the majority of the lads would be good craic. I can tell you too there would be some lads who know each other to see but would never dream that they would be on this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on October 25, 2007, 05:56:10 PM
probably would sam, i have probably played against some of the lads from south armagh on here when i was under age, but that was at least 10 years ago!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on October 25, 2007, 08:21:24 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 25, 2007, 03:29:51 PM
Quote from: High Catch on October 25, 2007, 12:45:44 PM

Quote from: illdecide on October 25, 2007, 12:20:13 PM
i heard that crop in the club last night again about how teams would be relegated if they did not field 3 times and they were reffeering to Dromintee. K Brady will relegate teams to div 4 for this crime. He wouldn't have the balls for this.
What teams are in danger of being relegated due to this new regulation?

Well apparently Dromintee have not fielded twice this year and if they do it again on sat against Clans that would make it 3 and Div 4. I would love him to try than one on with Cross :D :D


dont know where this is coming from cos we've fielded in every single game this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 25, 2007, 08:25:08 PM
Quotei heard that crop in the club last night again about how teams would be relegated if they did not field 3 times and they were reffeering to Dromintee. K Brady will relegate teams to div 4 for this crime. He wouldn't have the balls for this.
Not only would he not have the balls for it is there a rule to support him? 
Such bullshit - would they go and get a ground sorted out, knobs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 25, 2007, 10:14:34 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 25, 2007, 08:25:08 PM
Quotei heard that crop in the club last night again about how teams would be relegated if they did not field 3 times and they were reffeering to Dromintee. K Brady will relegate teams to div 4 for this crime. He wouldn't have the balls for this.
Not only would he not have the balls for it is there a rule to support him? 
Such bullshit - would they go and get a ground sorted out, knobs.

It's my understanding that there is such a rule Pints and furthermore Cross managed the three strikes when they failed to field against Maghery a number of years ago. I believe that it was placed with Maghery to claim the points, thus putting in motion a chain of events that would have seen Cross kicked out of the league and having to start at Division 4 again. Realising the magnitude of doing so and/or simply being unwilling to do such a thing, Maghery did not claim and agreed to a refixture, at which Maghery's generosity was repaid when Cross turned up with a weakened team.

That was my understanding anyway - maybe BC can clarify it for sure.

By the way - work is continuing on the Athletic Grounds.
Title: Re: ACL Division Three
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 25, 2007, 10:20:48 PM
Quote from: Redhandfan on October 24, 2007, 11:03:50 PM
Collegeland defeated An Port Mor by two points, tonight, in the big Division Three promotion clash at floodlit Abbey Park.  This result means Collegeland and An Port Mor finish the league in joint second position.  As they are on the same number of league points, they must now meet again in a play-off to decide who gains promotion to the second division next season.

Unfortunately, the main talking point from this game was the absolutely shocking display by referee Padraig Hughes.  The highly regarded Cross whistler had a complete nightmare and angered the large number of An Port Mor supporters with most of his decisions.   He set out his stall early in the game by awarding Collegeland several close-in frees which saw them race into a 0-7 to 0-1 lead in the first half.  He also showed An Port Mor's dangerman in attack, Christopher Lennon, a straight red early in the match for some back-chat.  

Six points down and one man down approaching the end of the first half, An Port Mor did haul themselves back into contention by the break with a goal and a point to trail 1-2 to 0-7.  Although Hughes did send Collegeland's Brian McGeary off for a second yellow card offence midway through the second half, he continued to anger the An Port Mor support by awarding the vast majority of free-kicks to Collegeland.  An Port Mor got to within a point of the winners late in the match and also had a good point by Gary Traynor signalled wide by the umpire.  The Blackwater men did not play well tonight but their cause was certainly not helped by the match officials, including one Oliver Hardy (from Belleek) on the sideline.

An Port Mor have lost to Collegeland twice in the league this year and will be hoping it is a case of third time lucky when they meet in the forthcoming promotion play-off.

What a pity to see the standards of the Board plummeting to this. It is surely no coincidence that this Port Mor supporter saw his team defeated in an important fixture, and has now started blindly dispensing insults at Armagh officialdom. These are officials who give their time for the benifit of all of us!

To hear a 'great gael' with an attitude like this is extremely unfortunate. Shame on you!   ;)
Title: Marsden Retires Again
Post by: stpauls on October 26, 2007, 10:22:23 AM
unfortunately, he has now retired for a second and probably last time!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7062190.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7062190.stm)

good luck diarmuid, thanks again for your many years of service to the county!!
Title: Re: Diarmuid Marsden
Post by: illdecide on October 26, 2007, 03:42:36 PM
Quote from: drici on October 26, 2007, 10:29:40 AM
Aye,no mention of this on the Board.
It was on RTE radio news yesterday morning (Thursday) at 8-30am.

I knew that as soon as Derry beat us in Clones he was finished

By the way, thats not a bad idea by winsam. what about a good session somewhere neutrel like "Silverbridge" only joking pints :D Aramgh city it is half way to every where
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 27, 2007, 04:28:47 PM
Dromintee are fielding today but of course we would not be relegated as we have fielded all year. The County board gave Cross the points against us as Cross mutually agreed but still went ahead and claimed the points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 27, 2007, 04:35:14 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 27, 2007, 04:28:47 PM
Dromintee are fielding today but of course we would not be relegated as we have fielded all year. The County board gave Cross the points against us as Cross mutually agreed but still went ahead and claimed the points.
Ah good oul cross, classy as always.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 27, 2007, 09:38:55 PM
Cruppen beat St Pat's 0-11 to 1-4 in the u21 championship today. No complaints from St Pats - beat by a bigger, stronger and hungrier team on the day I thought. Poor enough game but the conditions contributed a lot to that. Decent show from Cullyhanna in the last 20 minutes but the game was lost long before that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on October 28, 2007, 09:14:47 PM
NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE FIXTURES – ARMAGH (2008)

Sunday 3 February
Armagh v Cavan

Sunday 17 February
Westmeath v Armagh

Sunday 1 March
Monaghan v Armagh

Sunday 16 March
Armagh v Roscommon

Sunday 30 March
Armagh v Dublin

**Saturday** 5 April
Meath v Armagh

Sunday 13 April
Armagh v Cork

That's Four Home Matches and Three Away Matches
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 28, 2007, 09:41:49 PM
it's on orchardcounty.

just has the armagh games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaagaa on October 28, 2007, 10:26:14 PM
Quote from: 5iveTimes on October 28, 2007, 09:40:03 PM
Where did you get the fixture list?

check the main gaa discussion board - there is a posting on league fixtures
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaagaa on October 28, 2007, 10:27:19 PM
whats the feeling in armagh about oisin's book?

id say ricey is hoping dromore gets past mayobridge all the more now ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 28, 2007, 10:53:28 PM
Lissummon beat Cullyhana today in the South Armagh Shield final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 29, 2007, 12:24:08 AM
Sunday 30 March
Armagh v Dublin

maybe a capacity issue for this one?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on October 29, 2007, 07:53:06 AM
not doubt that the county board will try and cash in on the dublin game by taking it to clones
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 29, 2007, 08:36:17 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on October 29, 2007, 07:53:06 AM
not doubt that the county board will try and cash in on the dublin game by taking it to clones

Or Croker ;) :D Think £££££
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on October 29, 2007, 09:00:08 AM
illdecide i dont think that the armagh-dublin game has the same hype as that of the one played in croker in 2003!

crossmaglen certainly couldnt cope with the crowd so clones would be common sense! it would be interesting to see how many 'so-called' dubs travel to this game even though it only is just over an hour up the road!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 29, 2007, 10:27:52 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on October 29, 2007, 09:00:08 AM
illdecide i dont think that the armagh-dublin game has the same hype as that of the one played in croker in 2003!

crossmaglen certainly couldnt cope with the crowd so clones would be common sense! it would be interesting to see how many 'so-called' dubs travel to this game even though it only is just over an hour up the road!

I would love to play them in Croker, nothing beats stuffing them feckers in their own back yard. I know where your coming from there (interest in the game) when it comes down to coupons them feckers would do anything.

Lads i'm still not back to normal after our end of season bash on Sat night, not only am i to old for football now i can't handle the drink anymore. Feet up and pile on the pounds over the winter ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on October 29, 2007, 02:19:09 PM
Why was the pearse og v cross game off yesterday then? did one team award a walkover?

Big result for mullaghbawn beating maghery, officially safe now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 29, 2007, 02:20:54 PM
Only one cure for it and that is to get back at it again and blow the cobwebs away.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on October 29, 2007, 02:21:59 PM
Quote from: Kentucky Blue on October 29, 2007, 02:19:09 PM
Why was the pearse og v cross game off yesterday then? did one team award a walkover?

Big result for mullaghbawn beating maghery, officially safe now.

where you at the match KB? if you were, what was the score and who played well?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on October 29, 2007, 02:31:54 PM
Quote from: stpauls on October 29, 2007, 02:21:59 PM
Quote from: Kentucky Blue on October 29, 2007, 02:19:09 PM
Why was the pearse og v cross game off yesterday then? did one team award a walkover?

Big result for mullaghbawn beating maghery, officially safe now.

where you at the match KB? if you were, what was the score and who played well?

Wasn't at it st pauls, but just going form today's Irish News, It was 2-6 to 0-6 in the bawn's favour, safe anyway, guess thats all that really matters.
Leaves cullaville and whitecross in a winner takes all play-off to stay up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on October 29, 2007, 02:36:13 PM
mullaghbawn and maghery was another 'joke' game from wha ti hear.the maghery lads were treated very well after the game by their hosts ;).mr forker missed some sitters from close in as well as the maghery players not wanting to get involved in any sort of contest.maybe certain maghery players were keeping the new county manager happy,he just happens to be the mullaghbawn.thats the last few games maghery have went 'easy' on the opposition
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on October 29, 2007, 02:38:49 PM
Quote from: altovito on October 29, 2007, 02:36:13 PM
mullaghbawn and maghery was another 'joke' game from wha ti hear.the maghery lads were treated very well after the game by their hosts ;).mr forker missed some sitters from close in as well as the maghery players not wanting to get involved in any sort of contest.maybe certain maghery players were keeping the new county manager happy,he just happens to be the mullaghbawn.thats the last few games maghery have went 'easy' on the opposition

i don't get you?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 29, 2007, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: stpauls on October 29, 2007, 02:38:49 PM
Quote from: altovito on October 29, 2007, 02:36:13 PM
mullaghbawn and maghery was another 'joke' game from wha ti hear.the maghery lads were treated very well after the game by their hosts ;).mr forker missed some sitters from close in as well as the maghery players not wanting to get involved in any sort of contest.maybe certain maghery players were keeping the new county manager happy,he just happens to be the mullaghbawn.thats the last few games maghery have went 'easy' on the opposition

i don't get you?

It is not that hard to understand what he is saying.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on October 29, 2007, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: High Catch on October 29, 2007, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: stpauls on October 29, 2007, 02:38:49 PM
Quote from: altovito on October 29, 2007, 02:36:13 PM
mullaghbawn and maghery was another 'joke' game from wha ti hear.the maghery lads were treated very well after the game by their hosts ;).mr forker missed some sitters from close in as well as the maghery players not wanting to get involved in any sort of contest.maybe certain maghery players were keeping the new county manager happy,he just happens to be the mullaghbawn.thats the last few games maghery have went 'easy' on the opposition

i don't get you?

It is not that hard to understand what he is saying.

then why doesn't he just come out and say it instead of hiding behind a silly innuendo(sp)!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Edgeofthesquare on October 29, 2007, 03:13:04 PM

[/quote]

Wasn't at it st pauls, but just going form today's Irish News, It was 2-6 to 0-6 in the bawn's favour, safe anyway, guess thats all that really matters.
Leaves cullaville and whitecross in a winner takes all play-off to stay up.
[/quote]

This game will prob not be played until the completion of Whitecross' Ulster Intermediate Campaign
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 29, 2007, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: stpauls on October 29, 2007, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: High Catch on October 29, 2007, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: stpauls on October 29, 2007, 02:38:49 PM
Quote from: altovito on October 29, 2007, 02:36:13 PM
mullaghbawn and maghery was another 'joke' game from wha ti hear.the maghery lads were treated very well after the game by their hosts ;).mr forker missed some sitters from close in as well as the maghery players not wanting to get involved in any sort of contest.maybe certain maghery players were keeping the new county manager happy,he just happens to be the mullaghbawn.thats the last few games maghery have went 'easy' on the opposition

i don't get you?

It is not that hard to understand what he is saying.

then why doesn't he just come out and say it instead of hiding behind a silly innuendo(sp)!

what he is saying is that Maghery were not trying one bit against Bawn, in fact some of the Maghery lads were more than happy to keep the new Armagh manager happy by missing sitters. And that they got free drink all day after the match in the hospitality suite. (don't forget the new Armagh Manager is from Mullaghbawn incase your from another planet) ;) ;) :D :D

I have worded this the way i read it. Correct me if i'm wrong
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on October 29, 2007, 03:39:51 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 29, 2007, 03:31:18 PM
Quote from: stpauls on October 29, 2007, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: High Catch on October 29, 2007, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: stpauls on October 29, 2007, 02:38:49 PM
Quote from: altovito on October 29, 2007, 02:36:13 PM
mullaghbawn and maghery was another 'joke' game from wha ti hear.the maghery lads were treated very well after the game by their hosts ;).mr forker missed some sitters from close in as well as the maghery players not wanting to get involved in any sort of contest.maybe certain maghery players were keeping the new county manager happy,he just happens to be the mullaghbawn.thats the last few games maghery have went 'easy' on the opposition

i don't get you?

It is not that hard to understand what he is saying.

then why doesn't he just come out and say it instead of hiding behind a silly innuendo(sp)!

what he is saying is that Maghery were not trying one bit against Bawn, in fact some of the Maghery lads were more than happy to keep the new Armagh manager happy by missing sitters. And that they got free drink all day after the match in the hospitality suite. (don't forget the new Armagh Manager is from Mullaghbawn incase your from another planet) ;) ;) :D :D

I have worded this the way i read it. Correct me if i'm wrong

fair enough, that's all i wanted to know, instead of some one beating about the bush with it, why didn't he just come out with it.
And i do know who Peter McDonell is, originally from Mullaghbawn myself, and was coached by him at once stage, hence my interest in them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on October 29, 2007, 03:46:34 PM
hit the nail on the head illdecide.will make every crystal clear for you in future stpauls.if mcdonnell can transfer his shrewdness at club level to county level we might get a few handy points in the league this year ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on October 29, 2007, 04:22:07 PM
I was surprised Maghery even fielded, heard last week that they may not.
But suppose that would have been "too obvious" looking that they were doing mullaghbawn a favour.
Whole thing stinks of corruption, maybe now we can expect to see a few maghery lads lining out for the first game in the mc kenna cup!

who gave who the points in the og's v cross game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on October 29, 2007, 04:26:06 PM
As Og's were the home team I'd imagine they will be receiving the points.  I would guess that Cross were not too keen to travel especially after the injury Oisin has picked up against Culloville last week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 29, 2007, 04:50:37 PM
Unfortunately this type of thing goes on this time of year. I know it's not fair on teams needing points for relegation etc etc, but it's hard to motivate guys to go and play another team when there is nothing at stake. (I personally would not be like that but most other guys are).

the best thing to do is to make sure that come the end of the year that you are not in trouble or definitely not relying on other teams for points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 31, 2007, 01:34:25 PM
Not a post in two days lads? this must be a world record? I just thought i would post one to keep the post on the front page.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on October 31, 2007, 01:46:39 PM
Seen in today's paper, miceal o'rourke got 1-2 for queen's last night against jordanstown.
think will he make a big push on senior team this year?

Think nippy swift is worth a place of the panel again? playing under mc donnell will surely help his cause.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 31, 2007, 02:03:13 PM
There has been a few guys brought into the panel, Brian Mc Cone from Ballymacnab got a call up, Very good player, any opinions?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 31, 2007, 02:29:53 PM
Quote from: Kentucky Blue on October 31, 2007, 01:46:39 PM
Seen in today's paper, miceal o'rourke got 1-2 for queen's last night against jordanstown.
think will he make a big push on senior team this year?

Think nippy swift is worth a place of the panel again? playing under mc donnell will surely help his cause.

Swift is a good player and can be one for the future but i don't think young O Rourke will cut it at the top. There will no doubt be a few lads brought in that will raise a few eyebrows but there is always a sleeping giant out there waiting on the call...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 31, 2007, 04:04:28 PM
I've yet to see a more economical player than O'Rourke, his shot to score ratio must be excellent.  I think he's more than capable of intercounty standard, but his performance (or lack of) v Cross in championship makes me think he's a bit to go yet to be a regular intercounty champ starter.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 31, 2007, 05:47:41 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 31, 2007, 02:03:13 PM
There has been a few guys brought into the panel, Brian Mc Cone from Ballymacnab got a call up, Very good player, any opinions?
second that but not sure if he'd be county standard, deserves a shot though.


QuoteCrossmaglen Rangers manager Donal Murtagh has criticised the Armagh county board for allowing teams to concede walkovers against the reigning All-Ireland club champions.

Murtagh is annoyed that his team has been left very short of match practice heading into Sunday's Ulster club championship first round tie against Monaghan champions Clontibret. And he puts it down to teams not wanting to face the long-time Armagh kingpins in the league.

"We've been so far ahead of everyone in Armagh that in the league, teams won't play us," he said.

"We had a league game on June 30 and our next game wasn't until September 23. Teams are calling matches off willy nilly because they're just happy to give us the two points but the county board needs to take a look at it.

"We are starting to get paranoid about it at this stage. So far this year we've been given 10 points - that's five games - over the table which is unacceptable. We'd rather have the football."

Armagh secretary Patrick Og Nugent agreed with Murtagh that the situation is far from ideal but insisted there is little the county board can do.

"We agree that it's an unsatisfactory situation but we can't force teams to go out and play," he said.

It's funny they're so far ahead of everyone else that Cullaville beat them a few weeks ago  :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on October 31, 2007, 06:16:45 PM
Any word on the new call-ups or any from last year's panel who have not been asked.  Are the squad training yet or just at the meet n greet stage?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on October 31, 2007, 07:03:54 PM

aye, not to mention taking two points from us by telling lies at a county board meeting rather than refixing the game as agreed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on October 31, 2007, 08:02:35 PM
 ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 01, 2007, 08:55:12 AM
did cross not call off a league fixture during the year to go and play the Loup??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 01, 2007, 09:17:22 AM
Lads i was well pissed off this morning when reading the Irish News about the county's in Ulster that have these new floodlights installed. Cavan, Monaghan and Armagh are the only counties not to have them and when i think that we do not even have a ground we will prob (by the end of next year) be the only Ulster county without a ground and those new floodlights.

WTF is going on that we can't get our fingers out of our holes and get something sorted. Pick one ground in Armagh and get it up to capacity and standard and then get the lights, i know this is gonna take 4-5 years but we already have wasted about 6-7 years on the Pathetic grounds and it will never be able to hold a really big crowd for the championship.

I know we could argue for a week solid on which ground to develop but it def needs sorted and soon!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 01, 2007, 09:23:57 AM
Quote from: illdecide on November 01, 2007, 09:17:22 AM
Lads i was well pissed off this morning when reading the Irish News about the county's in Ulster that hace got those new floodlights installed. Cavan, Monaghan and Armagh are the only counties not to have them and when i think that we do not even have a ground we will prob (by the end of next year) be the only Ulster county without a ground and those new floodlights.

WTF is going on that we can't get our fingers out of our holes and get something sorted. Pick one ground in Armagh and get it up to capacity and standard and then get the lights, i know this is gonna take 4-5 years but we already have wasted about 6-7 years on the Pathetic grounds and it will never be able to hold a really big crowd for the championship.

I know we could argue for a week solid on which ground to develop but it def needs sorted and soon!!!

HERE HERE ILLDECIDE, COULDNT AGREE WITH YOU MORE, ITS A F*****G JOKE
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seeheartalk on November 01, 2007, 12:10:33 PM
Anyone know how long it would take to get from Celtic Park to Clones?
Hoping to watch Whitecross v Newbridge in Intermediate Championship (Celtic Park at 12.45noon), which should be over by 2pm and bomb down the road to Clones to get the2nd half of Crossmaglen (throw-in 2.30pm). Route planner doesnt say where Celtic Park is, in relation to Derry.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 01, 2007, 12:18:51 PM
Quote from: seeheartalk on November 01, 2007, 12:10:33 PM
Anyone know how long it would take to get from Celtic Park to Clones?
Hoping to watch Whitecross v Newbridge in Intermediate Championship (Celtic Park at 12.45noon), which should be over by 2pm and bomb down the road to Clones to get the2nd half of Crossmaglen (throw-in 2.30pm). Route planner doesnt say where Celtic Park is, in relation to Derry.




No baw, you'll do it in about 1 1/2 hours and catch the champs no problem
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on November 01, 2007, 02:15:06 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 01, 2007, 09:17:22 AM
Lads i was well pissed off this morning when reading the Irish News about the county's in Ulster that have these new floodlights installed. Cavan, Monaghan and Armagh are the only counties not to have them and when i think that we do not even have a ground we will prob (by the end of next year) be the only Ulster county without a ground and those new floodlights.

WTF is going on that we can't get our fingers out of our holes and get something sorted. Pick one ground in Armagh and get it up to capacity and standard and then get the lights, i know this is gonna take 4-5 years but we already have wasted about 6-7 years on the Pathetic grounds and it will never be able to hold a really big crowd for the championship.

I know we could argue for a week solid on which ground to develop but it def needs sorted and soon!!!

We're due to get the lights in before Christmas. At the present moment work is just finishing on the concreting of both ends of the ground, thus leaving three banks of terracing, i.e. at both ends and on the Drumarg side of the ground. The metal crash barriers are next on the agenda I would assume. My understanding is that the lights will be towards the end of the year and then that leaves the issue of the stand on the Ceannarus side of the ground. Given the determination that exists to ensure that lessons of yesteryear are not forgotten (i.e. major debt), then it is likely that the finance will have to be in place before work starts on this, the last piece of the jigsaw. How long that takes is anyone's guess. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on November 01, 2007, 02:40:31 PM
When will it be ready to hold a match, Rufus? I heard that the plan is to have next year's county final there, is that right?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on November 01, 2007, 02:51:20 PM
I would guess the timing on this could change Mackers, depending on unforeseen issues arising. The hope was to have National league matches at the ground next year, but given that we are not down for a home evening fixture, I'm not sure if that is still the plan. Again, from what I know, the plan was to play matches there prior to the stand being built.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on November 01, 2007, 03:10:48 PM
I think most of the McKenna cup matches will be under lights next year, would it be ready for that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 01, 2007, 03:36:31 PM
The pitch is bound to be the best about becasue it was laid 3-4 years ago and no-one has played on it yet, so it's bound to be grade A shit. It will feel strange going back there to a game having been away for so long.

That was our old stomping ground we always had an excellent record there, here's hoping it returns. ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 01, 2007, 03:45:59 PM
Its one pitch i never liked, Either playing on it or being a spectator, The pitch itself has a big steep hill down towards the cathedral, very deceiving, and you have to be at the field about 2 hours before it starts in order to get parked, A Nightmare
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 01, 2007, 04:13:57 PM
I used to love playing in the Gaelic Field especially on County final day and your right the 6ft drop from one end to the other is very decieving. Ahh the joys of living a stones throw away never had to worry about parking, though there's an exceleent view from the bungalow roofs in Drumarg  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on November 01, 2007, 04:30:05 PM
Was it u Ben that wrote PIRA on the chimney pots... ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on November 01, 2007, 11:22:00 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on November 01, 2007, 03:45:59 PM
Its one pitch i never liked, Either playing on it or being a spectator, The pitch itself has a big steep hill down towards the cathedral, very deceiving, and you have to be at the field about 2 hours before it starts in order to get parked, A Nightmare

every ground encounters this problem, we just have to live with it. whatever the occassion, when there is a large number of people, parking is always going to be an issue..just look at HQ.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on November 02, 2007, 12:20:03 AM
i see silverbridge are back in training for next year already. they must have qualifed for the champions league judging by the games they're playing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on November 02, 2007, 08:31:44 AM
Quote from: asitis on November 02, 2007, 12:20:03 AM
i see silverbridge are back in training for next year already. they must have qualifed for the champions league judging by the games they're playing.

Who are they playing? Bit early for that carry on?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 02, 2007, 09:02:44 AM
I know we touched on this b4 but i was reading the local paper this morning and it had the league tables in it and Whitecross and Culloville are in a dog fight both on 16pts, i said previously that we went down 4 years ago on 15pts and now some team is going to be relegated with 16pts. Next year with St Pats and Killeavey in the division it could be even worse as those 2 teams are as good as whats in the division.

Here's hoping the Athletic Grounds are opened for next years championship, we always liked playing there with the big open spaces, its a bit like Davitt Park in a way and it has been proved over the last 8 years or so that Clans are not suited to a smaller pitch like Abbey Park(where we seem to have to play majority of our championship games). And it will be good for all clubs to have a neutrel ground open again for the county final.

I suppose i should finish off by wishing Cross the best of luck for Sunday as much as they are the old enemy when any team from Armagh goes into the Ulster/All-Ireland series they will have my support. (f**k i sound like a right boring bastard this morning)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on November 02, 2007, 09:28:52 AM
Quote from: asitis on November 02, 2007, 12:20:03 AM
i see silverbridge are back in training for next year already. they must have qualifed for the champions league judging by the games they're playing.

what are you talking about? this is a load of nonsense
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 02, 2007, 10:26:08 AM
Def wasn't me Candyman I was probably out on the field playing at the time that was wrote, BUT where were you  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on November 02, 2007, 12:19:16 PM
i was in the opposite dug-out!!!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seeheartalk on November 02, 2007, 02:32:57 PM
Good Luck to all Armagh sides in Ulster at the weekend: Cross in the Senior, Whitecross in the Intermediate and Carrickcruppen in the Intermediate Final replay.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 02, 2007, 08:22:48 PM
Thanks illdecide and also seeheartalk
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on November 02, 2007, 09:42:45 PM
Anyone know if the Cross match is being broadcasted on the internet ?

or a link to a radio station that will have the match?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on November 03, 2007, 10:22:43 AM
Try     http://www.fivefm.co.uk/

Say they have either the cross or bridge match on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 03, 2007, 11:29:06 AM
The 'bridge aren't playing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 03, 2007, 12:35:27 PM
Quote from: 5iveTimes on November 03, 2007, 12:34:25 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 03, 2007, 11:29:06 AM
The 'bridge aren't playing.

That would be Mayobridge, there is more than one `bridge in Ireland  ;)
Yes, but not in armagh and this is the armagh club thread!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 03, 2007, 12:53:43 PM
ooooooohhhh
Time in the month 5ive times?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on November 03, 2007, 01:54:02 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 03, 2007, 11:29:06 AM
The 'bridge aren't playing.

  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on November 03, 2007, 03:43:26 PM
Quote from: Shortso79 on November 03, 2007, 10:22:43 AM
Try     http://www.fivefm.co.uk/

Say they have either the cross or bridge match on

Thank You

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on November 03, 2007, 09:07:15 PM
Who won the Under-21 game this afternoon?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on November 04, 2007, 12:36:01 AM
granemor got beat by a point as far as i know! think they were 9pts up at one stage! tirnaog n cruppen play tomorrow!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on November 04, 2007, 02:46:10 PM
cruppen beat tir na nog 1-10 til 0-4  tir na nog didn score from play good alround team performance from cruppen  thought their centre half back wuz immense  didn give mcallister a sniff 8) 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 04, 2007, 04:06:42 PM
AIB Ulster Club Football results 
Sunday, 4 November, full-time scores

St Galls 0-13 0-08 Cavan Gaels

Crossmaglen 1-08 1-07 Clontibret

Glenullin 1-15 1-07 Newtownbulter

Dromore 1-10 0-13 Mayobridge


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on November 04, 2007, 04:07:08 PM
hard luck to cruppin ladies in ulster
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on November 04, 2007, 04:23:59 PM
cross won by one today, hell of a game quite dirty by all accounts, cross played most of the game with 14 men when john d seen red?????? at start of game cahol short seen red last five minutes. oisin scored 1.4.

any news on whitecross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on November 04, 2007, 04:42:02 PM
think whitecross were beaten
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on November 04, 2007, 04:56:03 PM
john d getting sent off. surely not?  ::)

well done cross though. was always going to be a rough match, suits cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on November 04, 2007, 05:44:25 PM
Cross have a real knack of winning games by a point  -they don't seem to panic and get on with it - with two men short for the semi final, there could be an upset on the cards ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shooter on November 04, 2007, 07:02:23 PM
Quotecruppen beat tir na nog 1-10 til 0-4  tir na nog didn score from play good alround team performance from cruppen  thought their centre half back wuz immense  didn give mcallister a sniff

I was at the match today and i thought personnally that the referee gave tir na nog nothing. Cruppen were given very soft free kicks throughout the game while the same fouls on tir na nog were let go. Im not a tir na nog man myself so dont start saying im a sore loser.

I would like to wish cruppen all the best in the final and hopefully go onto win it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on November 04, 2007, 07:25:28 PM
you have to hand  it to cross they know how to win tight games. fair play to them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 05, 2007, 10:16:13 AM
I hear Granemore comitted Hari Kari v Killeavey in the U21 semi, 13-4 up they took off all their big guns and got beaten by a point :o  A county title sitting there waiting for a very very ordinary 'Cruppen team. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on November 05, 2007, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: orangeman on November 04, 2007, 05:44:25 PM
Cross have a real knack of winning games by a point  -they don't seem to panic and get on with it - with two men short for the semi final, there could be an upset on the cards ?

two men down but two men back also, francie b and jonny m will be back for next round.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on November 05, 2007, 12:17:02 PM
How is 'the' Francie?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 05, 2007, 12:36:01 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on November 05, 2007, 12:17:02 PM
How is 'the' Francie?

Surley Belew couldn't be ready for football after a cruciate operation. Jasus i know he's made of hardy stuff but thats too soon IMO
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on November 05, 2007, 01:39:16 PM
QuoteDavid McKenna took the penalty and while his shot was brilliantly saved by goalkeeper Paul McElroy, the ball rebounded off JP Mone and into the net.

The above quote is taken from the Official Armagh County Website and it is included in their report of yesterday's game between Crossmaglen and Clontibret.

I was at this same game and I did not see David McKenna take a penalty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on November 05, 2007, 03:28:56 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on November 05, 2007, 01:39:16 PM
QuoteDavid McKenna took the penalty and while his shot was brilliantly saved by goalkeeper Paul McElroy, the ball rebounded off JP Mone and into the net.

The above quote is taken from the Official Armagh County Website and it is included in their report of yesterday's game between Crossmaglen and Clontibret.

I was at this same game and I did not see David McKenna take a penalty.


the exact same line is on the BBC website, so it must be right!  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on November 05, 2007, 04:09:19 PM
will be interesting to see what action if any the ulster council take after yesterday's brawl at full time!  :o

cross cant afford to lose any more men. two old heads like donaldson and short will be missed as it is.

francie will not be back!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cityslicker on November 05, 2007, 07:20:17 PM
I was at both u21 games and i think killeavy will edge it!! after all they beat the favourites granemore!! though cruppen showed tir na og that they werent worth there place in the semis!! should b a good game!! cruppens full forward line run tir na og riot while killeavy took 45 min 2 start playin up front!! killeavy half back line is shaky enough also!its a hard one 2 call!! all on the day 4 these 2rivals! any word were the match is in and wat time??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 05, 2007, 09:29:24 PM
Martin Sludden who refereed the Cross v Clotibret game yesterday is originally from Dromore per the Tyrone football thread.
It's amazing that the Ulster Council appointed him to referee that game given that the winners could be playing Dromore in the next round!!!
A great display by Cross yesterday even though it is not reflected on the scoreboard.
As Paddy Heaney aptly put it "Clontibret got a one point hammering".
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on November 05, 2007, 10:45:16 PM
Quote from: cityslicker on November 05, 2007, 07:20:17 PM
I was at both u21 games and i think killeavy will edge it!! after all they beat the favourites granemore!! though cruppen showed tir na og that they werent worth there place in the semis!! should b a good game!! cruppens full forward line run tir na og riot while killeavy took 45 min 2 start playin up front!! killeavy half back line is shaky enough also!its a hard one 2 call!! all on the day 4 these 2rivals! any word were the match is in and wat time??
2 oc in dromintee on sunday rory robertson the referee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 06, 2007, 08:51:01 AM
Quote from: mousey on November 05, 2007, 10:45:16 PM
Quote from: cityslicker on November 05, 2007, 07:20:17 PM
I was at both u21 games and i think killeavy will edge it!! after all they beat the favourites granemore!! though cruppen showed tir na og that they werent worth there place in the semis!! should b a good game!! cruppens full forward line run tir na og riot while killeavy took 45 min 2 start playin up front!! killeavy half back line is shaky enough also!its a hard one 2 call!! all on the day 4 these 2rivals! any word were the match is in and wat time??
2 oc in dromintee on sunday rory robertson the referee

I think you mean Rory Robinson (Maghery) ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 06, 2007, 10:15:03 AM
I don't see anything wrong with the selection of ref for the Cross game Crossfire. I wasn't at the game mate but by all account it was Clontibret who felt agrieved. So it would seem that he favoured the Cross??? If he was going to be acting in the interests of Dromore surely he would have done all in his power to ensure that Dromore met Clontibret knowing the awesome record of the Cross. If the result would have been reversed then it may have raised some questions. Can someone also tell me why the fight broke out the end of the game??? and who were the aggresors??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on November 06, 2007, 12:12:06 PM
Quote: Candyman

Who is Bambi Mc Court? Who does he play for? Huh
Its only a wind-up among harps folk.... he's a young lad used to play county minor and for the harps then left for Oz a year ago to work!!
Complete mental patient


i see his trial finished. Was talking to him the other day, apparently hes moving to derry to work and to quote ' thats me and football finished'.
is that a good thing or a bad thing???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on November 06, 2007, 01:21:19 PM
Aye he got home last thursday, drunk out!!!
he told me the exact same thing and i personally think its a complete waste of talent... but what can be done???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 06, 2007, 02:04:08 PM
Anyone got any idea, how Whitecross got on on Sunday? All this talk about Cross, everyone has forgot about them. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 06, 2007, 02:05:46 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on November 06, 2007, 02:04:08 PM
Anyone got any idea, how Whitecross got on on Sunday? All this talk about Cross, everyone has forgot about them. :)

thats because they got stuffed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 06, 2007, 04:23:48 PM
 :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 06, 2007, 04:24:31 PM
That means there were 15 cocks out last week  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 06, 2007, 04:34:22 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 06, 2007, 04:24:31 PM
That means there were 15 cocks out last week  ;D

Excellent Winsam, i almost forgot about the South Armagh Streakers ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on November 06, 2007, 05:33:36 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 06, 2007, 10:15:03 AM
I don't see anything wrong with the selection of ref for the Cross game Crossfire. I wasn't at the game mate but by all account it was Clontibret who felt agrieved. So it would seem that he favoured the Cross??? If he was going to be acting in the interests of Dromore surely he would have done all in his power to ensure that Dromore met Clontibret knowing the awesome record of the Cross. If the result would have been reversed then it may have raised some questions. Can someone also tell me why the fight broke out the end of the game??? and who were the aggresors??

I was at the game at from what I seen after Desi Mone was fouled and the Ref blew the game up, the Cross subs ran onto the pitch about approx 20/30 after final whistle Desi Mone went to head but the Cross No.12 is he Ahern?  Aaron Kernan then grabed him round the next & Clontibert No.11 started thumping Kernan round the head.  After that it was pretty hard to see what was going on. When it sort off settle down Desi Mone ran towards the Ref & pushed him, at this point the Guards & stewarts moved in to protect the Ref.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on November 06, 2007, 05:57:06 PM
15 cocks? Dat wud never be enough in Derry.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: highcatch on November 06, 2007, 10:13:51 PM
Seen the socalled fight tonight on TV. Looked nothing more than handbags stuff. fair play to cross. They are in an Ulster semi again. Mayobridge or dromore will certainly put it up to them. Linden might look for revenge on Bellew after the tackle few years ago.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 06, 2007, 11:04:17 PM
For starters Linden will not be playing probably and Bellew will almost certainly not be playing so i can't see that happening pal. Francie would bury him anyway. How convenient was it tonight that the Cross game was actually covered on the news. After all the bad publicity from Paddy Heaney and the amount of complaints sent in. But they choose to show a game that had a fight or as high catch correctly said a scuffle. This was designed only to thow the game into disripute and justify the lack of coverage. I tell someone is trying to rub it into the GAA on the BBC and UTV the sports editors are clearly smart asses.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on November 07, 2007, 08:37:28 AM
Quote from: highcatch on November 06, 2007, 10:13:51 PM
Seen the socalled fight tonight on TV. Looked nothing more than handbags stuff. fair play to cross. They are in an Ulster semi again. Mayobridge or dromore will certainly put it up to them. Linden might look for revenge on Bellew after the tackle few years ago.

You have stolen my username you fool.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 07, 2007, 08:47:59 AM
Quote from: High Catch on November 07, 2007, 08:37:28 AM
Quote from: highcatch on November 06, 2007, 10:13:51 PM
Seen the socalled fight tonight on TV. Looked nothing more than handbags stuff. fair play to cross. They are in an Ulster semi again. Mayobridge or dromore will certainly put it up to them. Linden might look for revenge on Bellew after the tackle few years ago.

You have stolen my username you fool.

Maybe you 2 are twins :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on November 07, 2007, 03:08:43 PM
so anyone wanna hazard a guess as to who will stay up, cullaville or whitecross?

did alan o'neill retire after his recent bad injury?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on November 07, 2007, 03:13:12 PM
Could see it ending up a draw kb
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 07, 2007, 03:44:41 PM
I would say whitecross maybe just that little bit fitter as their season carried on just a little bit longer. but it will be a tight encounter but i fancy Whitecross just to come out on top this time by 2.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on November 07, 2007, 04:00:56 PM
A draw would be no surprise. Cullovilles end to the League was impressive and Whitecross lads will be drunk out after losing in Derry.
The lads Culloville couldn't start in the Intermediate will be raring to go and Whitecross are missing key men.
Cullovilles desire and direct style of play should give them the edge. But this time last year Whitecross were huffing and puffing without key men and then pulled a classy game out of the bag to hammer St Michael's in a relegation dogfight. They are due a big one.
Should be a good game. And why is the Under-21 final not played as part of a double-header? Gate costs prob ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on November 07, 2007, 06:43:02 PM
QuoteAnd why is the Under-21 final not played as part of a double-header? Gate costs prob

Not gate costs - probably just a too sensible idea.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on November 08, 2007, 11:57:41 AM
True, double header at cross would have been a good idea, too sensible for the county board though as you say!  :D

I'd say the Cruppen will win u21's but then again i thought granemore had it sowed up once they beat cross!

uuumm really dont know bout the relegation battle, culloville recently beating cross will have their tails up and they owe them one from the intermediate final, so i'd maybe say culloville by the minimum
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 08, 2007, 12:12:54 PM
i HOPE Culloville win (I know its further to travel) but there is something about that whitecross team i just don't like. In all my years of football i never heard such bitching and shouting from their management team. They even do it to their own players "Total madness". There is 3 of them guys who walk up and down the touch line constanly shouting "f**king ref, f**king bastards to away team, and f**king stupid c***s to their own players when someone makes a mistake.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Edgeofthesquare on November 08, 2007, 12:51:50 PM
U can hardly blame the squad of players on their managers style of management.  At the end of the day its the better team of players that should deserve to stay up regardless of management   As there is very little between these two teams this game will go to the wire.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on November 08, 2007, 03:07:39 PM
so what about big alan o'neill? did he retire after his recent injury?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on November 08, 2007, 05:57:31 PM
I think i heard Alan was of to Button moon - apparently he followed Mr spoon.

Does anyone else remember that classic kids tv show - those were the days.

Seriously that would be tragic if Alan had to retire was a fine footballer and will be a loss to the GAA scene and more importantly wish him well and a speedy recovery.

Was at the cross game at the weekend and to be honest i was going for clontibret as it would be nice to see a new team coming through but i have to say the ref was very sore on Cross.

Donaldson deserved to go but the clontibret man should have gone to for hitting Mcentee - not to mention his constant fouling. From then on Cross had to work much harder for their frees and were sorely penalised on numerous occaisons. (i also think he may have fallen asleep he was on the ground for that long)

Even still Cross were desevedly winning by 3 points at full time with four mins of added time indicated. The ref played over 6 mins of added time and during this period Clontibret got 2 soft scores the ref did all he could for clontibret to get a draw but they simply werent good enough.

The incident at the end was instigated 100% by clontibret and not cross but cross did become involved and will prob be dealt with harshley.

I didnt see the attempted headbutt but i did see the push on the ref and a couple of the Clontibret men dishing out warm ears Aaron kernan seemed to get a bit of special attention.

I know the ref can extend the added time if there is a stoppage during the added time - but there wasnt!!

Clontibrets arguement that the ref is supposed to tell them it was the last kick of the game is just wrong.  The ref doesnt have to do this and anyway if you were a freetaker hitting a 45 deep into stoppage time in an Ulster Club Championship match (or any match) when you were behind by a point do you not think you would have the BRAINS to ask the ref how long left before you hit it????

Clontibret were beaten by a much better team that was down to 14 men for over 45 mins, when the ref gave them every opportunity to rescue something from the game they werent smart enough to take it.  In hindsight im Glad their out as nobody likes a bad loser!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on November 08, 2007, 10:23:00 PM
Boys I have just been told that the County Board are negociating wit Down to play are home games in Newry. Apparently Athletic Grounds project is dead. Now I will not accept this until there's no other option but i heard it from a very good source.

We can't be playin home games in Down FFS!! Whats goin on?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on November 09, 2007, 11:03:55 AM
QuoteBoys I have just been told that the County Board are negociating wit Down to play are home games in Newry. Apparently Athletic Grounds project is dead. Now I will not accept this until there's no other option but i heard it from a very good source.

What's wrong with Oliver Plunkett Park, Crossmaglen or Davitt Park, Lurgan.

Surely Bandit the County Board are not even thinking of going outside the County to play their Home games?
If so, then this should be the end of the present County Board.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on November 09, 2007, 11:21:10 AM
QuoteBoys I have just been told that the County Board are negociating wit Down to play are home games in Newry

This sounds a bit suspect. Even if the Athlethic grounds has a problem, Cross has been used for county games without problems for the last few years.

Mind you I did post on this board a couple of years ago that a new 30,000 seater on the Newry bypass shared between Down and Armagh would have been an innovative idea.

Perhaps you mean floodlight games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on November 09, 2007, 01:04:13 PM
I think the GPA should be ashamed of themselves they are undermining everything the GAA stands for.  What they are asking for is Pay for |Play dressed up in fancy clothes.

They are an elitist Organisation who are only concerned with themselves and I firmly believe its a case of a few leading the many.

Don't get me wrong i totally agree with players being treated well and looked after if they get injured but they are always looking for more and more.

Currently every season inter-county players in Derry get:

2 pairs of boots
2 full kits a season,
2 full sets of training gear. (1 wet and 1 normal)
1 rain jacket
1 zip up top
1 jumper
2 polo shirts
1 tracksuit
Home training Equipment
Free access to state of the art gym

All the above are official Derry gear from O neills with emblems and crests and this is only the gear I KNOW FOR CERTAIN they get!

Also they have access to a top class physio, team doctor dietician and heart screening facilities.

they receive meals after ALL games and on the way to away games

they get fed after every training

and they also get VERY GOOD rebates on their mileage expenses.

Again these are jut the things i KNOW FOR CERTAIN!!

for each national league game they receive 4 passes each allowing friends and family to gain admission to the games for FREE and the passes can be used for both hurling and football even if only involved in one code.

They receive at least 2 and sometimes more FREE tickets for ALL championship matches they are involved in

They receive 2 good tickets for the all Ireland final in their code (hurling or football) for FREE

Before the club championship begins they receive a pass allowing them to gain FREE entry to ALL championship matches within the county in EITHER code at ANY level
 
The above list was given to me when I asked a PRESENT COUNTY PLAYER from our club about conditions at inter-county level.

I don't think anyone would begrudge them these things as the gear and medical farcicalities are a MUST and so are the mileage expenses and the meals.

The other stuff are added perks and again I would say Just right they are training very hard and giving a big commitment to Our County.

Looking at the list I would say our county players are fairly well looked after wouldn't you? And this is just the example of our county alot of other counties like Armagh and Tyrone get even more gear and perks which again is fair enough.

But to ask for money and to make out that they are so hard done by and listening to some of their leaders you'd think some were hardly fit to feed themselves and on the way to financial ruin is an absolute myth and border line lie!!

What ever happened to being proud to play for your county and pride in the jersey? That used to be enough to make people play for their counties.

Has Pride and honour fallen of the radar of the GPA in their obsession with self-worth and self-gain.
If pride in the jersey and being honoured to represent your County plus the list i have supplied aren't enough to make individuals play for OUR county teams do we really want them to? The type of character who would undermine the very fabric of our great organisation to line his own pockets.   

I was also informed by the County player from my own Club that most county players don't want to strike but are being openly pressurised to do so. Is this Democracy?

Its also evident the GPA are so far removed from the grassroots GAA and the supporters that they haven't noticed that the vast majority are strongly against it, but why would they listen to us mere mortals?

Down Manager Ross Carr has the right idea:

If these prima donnas strike and refuse to play Each County should find a panel of players who will represent their counties for pride honour and the other perks i listed. There would be a stampede to trials and it would totally negate the strike and render their actions futile and meaningless.

We cannot let the elitist few hold the rest of us to ransom while they try to gain financially for doing what most TRUE Gaels consider an Honour and a privilege – PLAY FOR YOUR COUNTY  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on November 09, 2007, 02:06:20 PM
If the pin has been pulled on the "pathetic grounds" as some like to call it, all the league games would probably just continue to be in Cross.

the lights at the marshes would be a big plus though if something was sorted.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on November 11, 2007, 12:36:42 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on November 08, 2007, 05:57:31 PM
I think i heard Alan was of to Button moon - apparently he followed Mr spoon.

Does anyone else remember that classic kids tv show - those were the days.

Seriously that would be tragic if Alan had to retire was a fine footballer and will be a loss to the GAA scene and more importantly wish him well and a speedy recovery.

Was at the cross game at the weekend and to be honest i was going for clontibret as it would be nice to see a new team coming through but i have to say the ref was very sore on Cross.

Donaldson deserved to go but the clontibret man should have gone to for hitting Mcentee - not to mention his constant fouling. From then on Cross had to work much harder for their frees and were sorely penalised on numerous occaisons. (i also think he may have fallen asleep he was on the ground for that long)

Even still Cross were desevedly winning by 3 points at full time with four mins of added time indicated. The ref played over 6 mins of added time and during this period Clontibret got 2 soft scores the ref did all he could for clontibret to get a draw but they simply werent good enough.

The incident at the end was instigated 100% by clontibret and not cross but cross did become involved and will prob be dealt with harshley.

I didnt see the attempted headbutt but i did see the push on the ref and a couple of the Clontibret men dishing out warm ears Aaron kernan seemed to get a bit of special attention.

I know the ref can extend the added time if there is a stoppage during the added time - but there wasnt!!

Clontibrets arguement that the ref is supposed to tell them it was the last kick of the game is just wrong.  The ref doesnt have to do this and anyway if you were a freetaker hitting a 45 deep into stoppage time in an Ulster Club Championship match (or any match) when you were behind by a point do you not think you would have the BRAINS to ask the ref how long left before you hit it????

Clontibret were beaten by a much better team that was down to 14 men for over 45 mins, when the ref gave them every opportunity to rescue something from the game they werent smart enough to take it.  In hindsight im Glad their out as nobody likes a bad loser!!!!


Excellent account of the Cross - Clontibret Match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on November 11, 2007, 01:51:29 PM
culloville won by one point, could of went either way. last touch of the ball. jimmy mc kee had a bad hour.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 11, 2007, 01:58:15 PM
Can't belive Culloville survived division 1 but fair play to them.

Standards must have fallen.


Dontcare is there something interesting in my profile?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on November 11, 2007, 02:03:25 PM
dont understand pints.

the game was just pure winter football.
yes bad standard for 1st division football think either team would be equally at home in div 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 11, 2007, 03:39:09 PM
Overall, I think the standards have dropped a lot in division 1.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on November 11, 2007, 04:05:55 PM
An Portmor beat collegeland 3-7 to 1-6 in the division 3 play off final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on November 11, 2007, 05:32:48 PM
What was the score in the Under-21 Final between Carrickcruppen and Killeavey?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on November 12, 2007, 12:26:24 AM
carrickcruppen 2-10 killeavey 1-8

not bad for a very very oridinary team!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 12, 2007, 10:14:08 AM
Anyone know the date, venue, and time for Cross V Dromore match? :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on November 12, 2007, 11:06:24 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on November 12, 2007, 10:14:08 AM
Anyone know the date, venue, and time for Cross V Dromore match? :)

On another thread it was suggested Casement, for next Sunday.

It would be a nice double header in Clones though IMO!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 12, 2007, 11:13:57 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on November 12, 2007, 11:06:24 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on November 12, 2007, 10:14:08 AM
Anyone know the date, venue, and time for Cross V Dromore match? :)

On another thread it was suggested Casement, for next Sunday.

It would be a nice double header in Clones though IMO!

Who is the other match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 12, 2007, 12:14:49 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on November 12, 2007, 12:26:24 AM
carrickcruppen 2-10 killeavey 1-8

not bad for a very very oridinary team!

Great result for cuppen obviously, but they aren't a good side, any winner of the previous 3 or 4 years would have give them a right tanning.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on November 12, 2007, 12:34:11 PM
Heard young Loughran (younger bro of Peter) had a good game for Cruppen.

And a former Cross man, Gerard Callan sunk whitecross!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: upthecrups on November 12, 2007, 01:38:24 PM
Great result for cuppen obviously, but they aren't a good side, any winner of the previous 3 or 4 years would have give them a right tanning.
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Yeah your right benny - this is obviosly a shit side!!  Shit sides do normally win county championships ::)  ::)
Suppose it is unfortunate that they beat your beloved harps ::)

Catch yourself on and give credit where its due, they are definately a good side as it showed yesterday and in previous weeks.  They are now our county champions, and derservedly so! ;D  ;D  ;D

All this and only 3 out of the starting line out not available for next year.  Well done lads. :)

UP THE CRUPS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on November 12, 2007, 01:42:25 PM
Saw this on another tread :

Cross V Dromore - Clones - This Sunday 18 Nov - 2.15pm

Glenullin V St Galls - Omagh - This Sunday 18 Nov - 2.15pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 12, 2007, 01:46:16 PM
I don't know how good Cruppen are in comparison to previos winners Benny, but I would say that winning the u-21's is a good barometer of how they would fair at senior.

Fair play to them as it is a good while since they nade any shakes in Armagh.  They have a strong enough tradition and if the right people are about the club maybe they could make a breakthrough.

kentucky Blue, you know well that Callan was only a Cross player as there was no underage team in Cullaville to play on, as soon as he became senior age he transferred back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on November 12, 2007, 01:52:52 PM
good result for cruppen which augurs well for the future, senior team put up a good show this year in the championship and had hard luck in the league , the reserve team lost the all county league final and the minors lost a cracking game to cullyhanna in the champonship. looks like the structures are in place to  move on to the next level
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on November 12, 2007, 02:01:52 PM
BC1, yeah I'm aware of that surely.
Was over at the game yesterday and he's a handy enough player, plays centre forward.

I think Tir Na nOg could struggle now once they have went down to re-group and get back up.
Division 2 will be very competitive next year. Cruppen will give it a good lash, as will silverbridge and whitecross will be looking to bounce back as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 12, 2007, 02:06:52 PM
and Newtown.  Maybe Wolfe Tones will pull themselves together and Clann Eireann should be better than they were this year. 

Isn't Tir Na Nog a young team, division 2 will probably suit them better.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on November 12, 2007, 02:21:00 PM
Pints, you seem to have this opinion that certain teams, such as your own, are better off in Division 2.  Surely Division 1 football brings the team to the next level and improves individual players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 12, 2007, 02:27:53 PM
QuotePints, you seem to have this opinion that certain teams, such as your own, are better off in Division 2.  Surely Division 1 football brings the team to the next level and improves individual players.

At a certain stage yes high catch but the team have to be ready for the next level.
If a team is rebuilding and bringing in a lot of very young players - like the bridge have - they need some time to gel together, get a system of play going, get the confidence up etc - being beat every week in division 1 will not help that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on November 12, 2007, 02:30:23 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 12, 2007, 02:27:53 PM
QuotePints, you seem to have this opinion that certain teams, such as your own, are better off in Division 2.  Surely Division 1 football brings the team to the next level and improves individual players.

At a certain stage yes high catch but the team have to be ready for the next level.
If a team is rebuilding and bringing in a lot of very young players - like the bridge have - they need some time to gel together, get a system of play going, get the confidence up etc - being beat every week in division 1 will not help that.

Fair enough.
Will you be 100% behind the Bridge's push for promotion next year or would you rather they stay in Division 2 for another year or two?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 12, 2007, 02:36:04 PM
Always behind the 'bridge's push for promotion as the heart rules the head.
I think we would have went up this year if it wasn't for all the injuries, we'll go up when we're ready but I'll be disappointed if it's not next year. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on November 12, 2007, 03:11:49 PM
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Hi Everyone Ive Set up a new organisation for club players called The Continuity GPA.  We are only in our infancy and are in need of much needed funds so we are in the fund raising process at the minute.

Our finance comitteee has come up with an ingenious fund raising idea and it only costs 1 slice of humour to enter.

Its called 'GUESS HOW MUCH BEER WOULD FIT IN DESSIE FARRELLS HEAD'

The winner gets a full size model of Dessie Farrells Head (if enough clay can be found) filled with beer.

What a prize it will keep you and ten of your friends drinking from now until the far side of Christmas.

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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 12, 2007, 04:00:21 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 12, 2007, 01:46:16 PM
I don't know how good Cruppen are in comparison to previos winners Benny, but I would say that winning the u-21's is a good barometer of how they would fair at senior.

They got to the final beating no one of consequence (including the harps who were poor) and benefited from the stronger teams knocking each other out, but the record books aren't going to highlight that.  Having said that they seem to be a club on the up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: upthecrups on November 12, 2007, 04:09:08 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 12, 2007, 04:00:21 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 12, 2007, 01:46:16 PM
I don't know how good Cruppen are in comparison to previos winners Benny, but I would say that winning the u-21's is a good barometer of how they would fair at senior.

They got to the final beating no one of consequence (including the harps who were poor) and benefited from the stronger teams knocking each other out, but the record books aren't going to highlight that.  Having said that they seem to be a club on the up.

Who would you reckon the stronger sides are???
Cross got beat by granemore, kileavy beat granemore and Cruppen beat kileavy.
What makes you think they wouldn't have beat Cross?
Only other team of note is Dromintee, who Tir na Og beat and Cruppen beat them handy.
They also beat Cullyhanna well up there after them drawing with the Ogs.

Don't really see where your coming from benny ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on November 12, 2007, 04:15:36 PM
If a team wins a county Championship they have every right to be called the best team in the county.

If these so called stronger teams were so strong whoever came through that side must have been formidable and Cruppin beat them!

Cruppin are in a very good progressive position Seniors are competing very well senior level and the U21 win will give them a shot in the arm BUT it gurantees nothing .  

they must build on this by bringing through a significant number of these players to senior panel and team in next few years and also by backing it up with more underage success so as a 'conveyor belt' of talent will feed the seniors so as they will not only be able to compete but to Challenge in the future.

Well done Cruppin.

Does anyone know for certain where the Ulster club semis are dis weekend and what times

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on November 12, 2007, 06:46:28 PM
benny the expectations and standards set by armagh harps must be extremely hard as they provided us with the toughest game in the under 21 championship campaign this year and you called them a poor side!

if our performance against you lot was the only one that you had seen then judging us an ordinary team is a bit harsh!

we gathered the tuesday night for a first training session, had another on the thursday then played the first round on the saturday. therefore it was our first competitive game as a team together since minors 2 seasons ago.

we targetted winning the championship and six weeks later the we had reached our target as worthy winners!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on November 12, 2007, 11:01:15 PM
QuoteAll this and only 3 out of the starting line out not available for next year.
which 3?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 13, 2007, 01:20:29 PM
Some people just like bickering. For christ sake Cruppen won the u-21 title and fair play to them . In games if a team plays well and gets beat they still get beat. Lets not have sour grapes about getting beat. Cruppen totally deserve to be champions and i never watched one game. They deserve it because the beat everyone who was put in front of them. Every other team in the race for the title didn't. So again well done Cruppen on yor success.
On another note, have any of you guys received questionnaires from your clubs about the GAA in general??? it asks about  the dynamics of the GAA and is it in touch with modern society. It also asks will the GAA be as popular in 10 years time. Did any other Armagh clubs give these out ?? If so are they in response to the GPA ??? Or are we going to see some future improvements.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 13, 2007, 02:47:19 PM
What is the GPA doing for club football?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on November 13, 2007, 04:27:11 PM
f**k all, not doing much for county football either from what I can see.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 13, 2007, 04:48:37 PM
Is there an U21 Ulster Campaign like the minors and seniors?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on November 13, 2007, 06:13:09 PM
No under 21 ulster!! not every county has an U21 championship.

The GPA are only doing things for and only interested in the elite few.

If every county fields without them wait and see how long it is until they start coming back to training and games. They are only out for themselves if they wont play with the considerable benefits they already get and for love of the game and pride in the jersey

GOOD RIDDANCE YOU BUNCH OF C**TS

Also we must Remember alot of county players arent members and another large section will never strike but just voted the way they were pressurised into If we continue without them they have nothing left
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaagaa on November 13, 2007, 09:13:38 PM
will oisin be borrowing the refs pen to give ryan a signed copy of this book? ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on November 13, 2007, 09:15:59 PM

Its the gpa's fault that there's no u21 ulster campaign for cruppe? where were your complaints every other year?

it rained this evening, i suppose that's down to the gpa too!

here's a question... what have you done for club footballers?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 14, 2007, 09:01:23 AM
Quote from: billy the kid on November 13, 2007, 06:13:09 PM
No under 21 ulster!! not every county has an U21 championship.

The GPA are only doing things for and only interested in the elite few.

If every county fields without them wait and see how long it is until they start coming back to training and games. They are only out for themselves if they wont play with the considerable benefits they already get and for love of the game and pride in the jersey

GOOD RIDDANCE YOU BUNCH OF C**TS

Also we must Remember alot of county players arent members and another large section will never strike but just voted the way they were pressurised into If we continue without them they have nothing left

Here Here, Billy the Kid Well said , have to whole heartedly agree with you in every aspect of your post! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on November 14, 2007, 11:08:35 AM
Quote[/quThe Armagh County Board are plased to announce that the managment team for the County Minors for the forthcoming year will be:


Paul McShane (Manager)


Sean Hughes


Kieran Robinson


We would like to wish them all the best in their new role and hope they can continue on the outstanding success of outgoing manager Paul Kelly.
ote]

Taken from the Official Armagh GAA Website.

I was talking to a member of the Armagh County Board about this last night and he told me that he knew nothing about this decision as it never was discussed never mind agreed at any County Board Meeting.

What's going on?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on November 14, 2007, 11:42:46 AM
Well Men Time to make a few Predictions!!!

Who do Yous think will win the big games at the weekend.

Glenullin V St Galls     Glenullin

Dromore V Cross       Dromore

Newbridge V Dunloy  Newbridge

Im gonna go for Glenullin in the first game. Firstly because i just feel that the more open football St galls play will suit Glenullin as will the open spaces in Omagh, although that may also suit St Galls. I think that they will have to be at their best and be more efficent with their shooting to overcome what is gonna be a formidable challenge but Glenullin seem to have a certain momentum and resilience about them now.  Also im a Derry man and i never said i wasnt biased.

I fany Dromore to beat Cross as they look a realy good side and if Colm Mc cullagh plays they will have 3 very effective outlets for scores up front with the two corner forward looking very good the last day. ive seen Cross a couple of times this year and havent eally been that impressed with them. Although it has to be said they have an uncanny knack of playing just well enough to win the game. Donnaldson will be a huge loss to them, I know they have a strong panel but they dont have someone as strong and as experienced on the bench.

In the intermediates i fancy Newbridge and the reason is they weresimplyt awesom against Whitecross a Div 1 Armagh out fit (although since relegated) and Dermott dougan is putting in some fine performances of both score taking and play making.  its like a blast from the past when he was doing the same for Derry in the No. 11.  However i have to admit i havent seen Dunloy in any shape or form.

By the way
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on November 13, 2007, 09:15:59 PM

Its the gpa's fault that there's no u21 ulster campaign for cruppe? where were your complaints every other year?

it rained this evening, i suppose that's down to the gpa too!

here's a question... what have you done for club footballers?

In my last post i was answering to different posts from, umgolaarmagh and Onion Bag one was about the GPA and club football and the othe was about the U21 club.  I was not blaming the GPA for the lack of an U21 Ulster club simple fact of the matter is not every county has an U21 Championship and where and when would you fit it into an already packed calender.

However it wouldnt suprise me if it was the GPAs fault it rained today Bunch of miserable c***ts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 14, 2007, 03:47:21 PM
quThe Armagh County Board are plased to announce that the managment team for the County Minors for the forthcoming year will be:


Paul McShane (Manager)


Sean Hughes


Kieran Robinson

Who the fcuk are these people? Have they any experience in the job, These are the guys that been trusted to look after the countys siblings and coach them to the highest standard, and leave them that they are ready for the jump to the senior ranks, wHO ARE THESE GUYS?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 14, 2007, 04:17:12 PM
Kieran robinson may be from maghery though this is only a guess going on names. I haven't the foggiest who the other two are. But this is normal for the county board.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 14, 2007, 04:22:56 PM
Paul McShane is a Silverbridge legend and has been managing Granemore.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on November 14, 2007, 04:26:36 PM
If I'm thinking of the same guy, Paul McShane managed Granemore for the last couple of years and would have been heavily involved in the development squads. He lives in Crossmaglen, although I don't think he's originally from there, I think he's from Silverbridge (pints or dont care??). Maybe somebody will contradict me, but he seems to be a good man, know a couple of the Granemore players who had a good word on him.  Big jump up though, wish him all the best as he's a nice fella
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 14, 2007, 04:39:19 PM
Is sean Hughes the guy from Keady. Goes by the nickname Macko or something like that, He managed Ballymacnab for a couple of years, Not sure if its the same guy, Maybe someone else can shed some light on it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on November 14, 2007, 05:25:54 PM

How do these appointments get made?

are there nomiations from clubs?

is there an interview process?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on November 14, 2007, 06:22:21 PM
there's a peace process will that do you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on November 14, 2007, 08:27:09 PM
Keiran Robinson was our (Annaghmore) manager for the last number of years, and has worked very closely with this age group of players through the development squads.  On behalf of myself and the club I would like to wish him well in his new role.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 15, 2007, 09:14:13 AM
I suppose the rumors i heard that "Jelly Belly Kelly" was coming in with Barry John O Hagan and Diarmaid Marsden to manage the Clans next year is true if he has stepped down from the Armagh minors.

I know he's a Clans man (Paul Kelly) but i don't know anything about the man...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on November 15, 2007, 11:01:31 AM

I think the minor management appointment is a case of paddy og rummaging about for whoever will take it and not look for too many weekend away or much gear.

there's a hell of a lot of armagh coaches out there at the minute coaching at very high levels. surely we need to start incorporating them into developing our young talent? men like geezer, Justin McNulty, Bumpy, Aidan O'Rourke are some of the most highly rated young coaches about but i've never heard of them being incorporated into our county coaching plans at any age level?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: robertemmet on November 15, 2007, 11:54:21 AM
I think Armagh have a plan where the minor management take it for three years, then the U16 Dev Squad men come in after them.  It is like a rotation process as far as I know.

I think Tyrone and Donegal do the same
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on November 15, 2007, 12:00:05 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on November 14, 2007, 04:39:19 PM
Is sean Hughes the guy from Keady. Goes by the nickname Macko or something like that, He managed Ballymacnab for a couple of years, Not sure if its the same guy, Maybe someone else can shed some light on it

yea ur right. maco (Known as Maco Man in Ballymacnab after guiding them to intermidate cship), great manager and ive no doubt that he has the ability to do something with the minor team. he is well capable of the job and takes no shit. won the division 3 league with ballymacnab and intermidate cship and tuk them 2 ulster final last yr. very good manage with a lot of respect around local clubs! glad he got the job and wish him all the best!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on November 15, 2007, 01:02:46 PM
Quote from: robertemmet on November 15, 2007, 11:54:21 AM
I think Armagh have a plan where the minor management take it for three years, then the U16 Dev Squad men come in after them.  It is like a rotation process as far as I know.

I think Tyrone and Donegal do the same

What is the benefit of this approach?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on November 15, 2007, 01:33:09 PM
Quote from: DMarsden on November 15, 2007, 01:02:46 PM
Quote from: robertemmet on November 15, 2007, 11:54:21 AM
I think Armagh have a plan where the minor management take it for three years, then the U16 Dev Squad men come in after them.  It is like a rotation process as far as I know.

I think Tyrone and Donegal do the same

What is the benefit of this approach?

Probably the continuity of team management where it does not take management three months to try and get to know players names and strengths bla bla
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on November 15, 2007, 01:36:04 PM

Obviously. What if the coaching team coming up with a certain crop of players ain't any good? even if they are, is it beneficial in the long run for a player not to be exposed to a variance of coaching styles?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tackle on November 15, 2007, 01:50:59 PM
quote author=DMarsden link=topic=769.msg196700#msg196700 date=1195133764]

Obviously. What if the coaching team coming up with a certain crop of players ain't any good? even if they are, is it beneficial in the long run for a player not to be exposed to a variance of coaching styles?
[/quote]
Fair point.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on November 15, 2007, 01:59:45 PM
Contrary to rumours posted on the thread a few pages back I see they are working flat out at the Athletic Grounds.  Paddy Og Nugent quoted as saying in today's papers that there is an outside chance of Armagh's final league game against Cork being played there!!

According to the same article, they think they will have terracing complete on three sides of the ground and floodlights up for Christmas.  It's in the Daily Mirror so it must be true!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on November 15, 2007, 02:24:41 PM
Quote from: mackers on November 14, 2007, 04:26:36 PM
If I'm thinking of the same guy, Paul McShane managed Granemore for the last couple of years and would have been heavily involved in the development squads. He lives in Crossmaglen, although I don't think he's originally from there, I think he's from Silverbridge (pints or dont care??). Maybe somebody will contradict me, but he seems to be a good man, know a couple of the Granemore players who had a good word on him.  Big jump up though, wish him all the best as he's a nice fella

Mackers I'm from cross, yes you are right Paul MC Shane is from the bridge and living in cross, he was meant to be one hell of a player and i also hear great word on him as a coach, he did well with granemore.
From what i heard from a close friend of his he had to go through an interview process to get this job so the county board must have discussed the job with its committee.

Pints i hear you dinner dance is on tomorrow night, who will get player of the year, you for it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 15, 2007, 02:32:29 PM
QuotePints i hear you dinner dance is on tomorrow night, who will get player of the year, you for it?
No I won't be at home. 
player of the year aint my choice.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dontcare on November 15, 2007, 02:47:20 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 15, 2007, 02:32:29 PM
QuotePints i hear you dinner dance is on tomorrow night, who will get player of the year, you for it?
No I won't be at home. 
player of the year aint my choice.

i know that cus its the team picks it and your not on the team, i just thought you may know who is in the running in your opinion
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 15, 2007, 02:56:56 PM
No idea. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 15, 2007, 03:53:33 PM
Quote from: mackers on November 15, 2007, 01:59:45 PM
Contrary to rumours posted on the thread a few pages back I see they are working flat out at the Athletic Grounds.  Paddy Og Nugent quoted as saying in today's papers that there is an outside chance of Armagh's final league game against Cork being played there!!

According to the same article, they think they will have terracing complete on three sides of the ground and floodlights up for Christmas.  It's in the Daily Mirror so it must be true!!!

Mackers,

Do you think Oisin will have a wee flutter on that? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 15, 2007, 03:54:58 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on November 15, 2007, 03:53:33 PM
Mackers,

Do you think Oisin will have a wee flutter on that? ;)

Brilliant onion bag ::)
Who writes your material?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 15, 2007, 03:59:32 PM
Quote from: full back on November 15, 2007, 03:54:58 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on November 15, 2007, 03:53:33 PM
Mackers,

Do you think Oisin will have a wee flutter on that? ;)

Brilliant onion bag ::)
Who writes your material?

The Sunday Tribune! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on November 16, 2007, 12:24:52 PM
so who would you like to see geting a good chance in county team in 2008?

i think peter loughran from carrickcruppen played for armagh at silverbridge's opening? having seen how he played against cross and a few other times id give him a shot.
gareth o'neill (dromintee)
david mc kenna (cross)
gareth swift (harps)

only my humble opinion, just to get the craic going  8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 16, 2007, 01:19:06 PM
Quote
MCKEEVER SET FOR LEAGUE RETURN

County senior footballer Ciaran McKeever is hoping to return to the inter-county scene at the start of the Orchard County's 2008 National League campaign.

McKeever is recovering form a hand injury he picked up last season, but he played through the pain barrier for his club St Patrick's Cullyhanna in recent months.

"Ciaran McKeever had been carrying a knuckle problem for quite a while," Armagh manager Peter McDonnell said.

"This is the time of year to get these things sorted out because if there was a problem further down the line the recovery time would eat into next year more so than I would like.

"It was painful, but hopefully it will correct the problem," McDonnell added.

That is good news, I wonder who he wrapped that knuckle on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 16, 2007, 02:18:08 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 16, 2007, 01:19:06 PM
Quote
MCKEEVER SET FOR LEAGUE RETURN

County senior footballer Ciaran McKeever is hoping to return to the inter-county scene at the start of the Orchard County's 2008 National League campaign.

McKeever is recovering form a hand injury he picked up last season, but he played through the pain barrier for his club St Patrick's Cullyhanna in recent months.

"Ciaran McKeever had been carrying a knuckle problem for quite a while," Armagh manager Peter McDonnell said.

"This is the time of year to get these things sorted out because if there was a problem further down the line the recovery time would eat into next year more so than I would like.

"It was painful, but hopefully it will correct the problem," McDonnell added.

That is good news, I wonder who he wrapped that knuckle on.

Half of Silverbridge ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 16, 2007, 02:45:55 PM
aye he'd like to alirght, sc**bag that he is.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 16, 2007, 03:36:45 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 16, 2007, 02:45:55 PM
aye he'd like to alirght, sc**bag that he is.

Jasus Pints it's Friday "Chill out" don't look in the past look to the future. At least they are out of your division for a while. That should cool things off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on November 17, 2007, 08:45:23 PM
Pints,
How did your Dinner Dance go last night?
Who won Senior Player of the Year?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 17, 2007, 09:28:51 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on November 17, 2007, 08:45:23 PM
Pints,
How did your Dinner Dance go last night?
Who won Senior Player of the Year?


Never heard a thing about it, aidanmc or inthemaking?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: aidanmcg33 on November 18, 2007, 11:59:04 AM
Brendan Cumisky got B player of the year. Stefan Murphy got Young Player of the Year, and Anthony Mallie got Senior Player of the Year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 18, 2007, 01:48:16 PM
Quote from: aidanmcg33 on November 18, 2007, 11:59:04 AM
Brendan Cumisky got B player of the year. Stefan Murphy got Young Player of the Year, and Anthony Mallie got Senior Player of the Year.
Good on them, well deserved.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 19, 2007, 12:24:19 AM
Great year for the club too     ;)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 19, 2007, 01:38:48 PM
Dromintee beat Cruppen in the B semi yesterday (yes, it was only played yesterday) by five points. Very good match for this time of year with both sides kicking good scores. Killeavy await in the final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 19, 2007, 02:12:22 PM
Any reports from the cross game i heard Dromore kicked a few wides. St Gall's will be difficult enough to beat in the final they had an awesome win over Glenullin.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on November 19, 2007, 02:25:28 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 19, 2007, 02:12:22 PM
Any reports from the cross game i heard Dromore kicked a few wides. St Gall's will be difficult enough to beat in the final they had an awesome win over Glenullin.

winsamsoon, for what its worth i posted my humble report on the main gaa page, in ulster championship thread bout 5 mins ago
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 19, 2007, 02:38:22 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 19, 2007, 02:12:22 PM
Any reports from the cross game i heard Dromore kicked a few wides. St Gall's will be difficult enough to beat in the final they had an awesome win over Glenullin.

Hey Winsam don't be so tight and buy the Irish News ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 19, 2007, 11:57:13 PM
Any word on how the New look Armagh team is shaping up

Any body got the chop yet?

Anybody else brought in?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on November 20, 2007, 09:52:14 AM
Umgola rumour has it you were gettin a call up after your performances with the Ballycrummy 5 GFC but as you turned 30 TODAY your just over the hill!!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 20, 2007, 11:24:21 AM
And a toothache along with it, wat a happy 30th
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 20, 2007, 11:57:50 AM
Yeah, age means nothing but with work commitments and the Helicopter grounded by the bad weather then it would be just impossible to make training twice a week

though Arsene wenger said i could train with Arsenal during the winter months but i cant stand that Fabregas man
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on November 20, 2007, 12:05:10 PM
I know your head is in the clouds umgola but helicopters ffs???  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 20, 2007, 12:52:32 PM
there a great job for beating the M25 traffic

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on November 20, 2007, 12:55:28 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on November 20, 2007, 12:52:32 PM
there a great job for beating the M25 traffic


even better = just work from home!!!
Ask sureyouwill (although i dont know what he calls himself now...  ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 20, 2007, 01:37:38 PM
i will be working from home tomorrow  :o, headng to covent arden for pints in about 3 hrs

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 20, 2007, 02:23:46 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on November 20, 2007, 01:37:38 PM
i will be working from home tomorrow  :o, headng to covent arden for pints in about 3 hrs



Is that you Bones? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 20, 2007, 02:57:22 PM
would be alright

pm me onion bag
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghgaa on November 20, 2007, 03:16:07 PM
new to all this,
lads anyone know how to get tickets for county dinnerdance??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on November 20, 2007, 04:09:02 PM
Quote from: armaghgaa on November 20, 2007, 03:16:07 PM
new to all this,
lads anyone know how to get tickets for county dinnerdance??
play for the county???
or buy a house from kernan & sons in Cross  ;)
Title: Andrew McCann Interview
Post by: Harold Disgracey on November 20, 2007, 04:34:22 PM
An excellent article about Andrew McCann from the Sunday Times. I corrected the names of the Portadown players mentioned by Sticky Murray.


Last Tuesday evening in the Goat Bar and Grill in south Dublin, Enda McNulty and Des Mackin ran into the Mayo footballer Austin O'Malley and the St Vincent's centrefielder Michael O'Shea. All four had played on the Dublin club scene and the talk soon drifted to St Vincent's drawn Leinster quarter-final against Seneschalstown two days earlier. Given their Armagh connections, McNulty and Mackin asked O'Shea about Seneschalstown's Andrew McCann. It was the first O'Shea knew about McCann's Armagh background; he hadn't a clue that he'd even played for the county, never mind that he'd won an All-Ireland in 2002.

O'Shea wasn't being complacent or arrogant because McCann's career had never trapped many rays of sunlight. Even on the day when his profile reached its peak, McCann managed to retain his anonymity in the immediate aftermath. Four minutes before Maurice Fitzgerald rescued Kerry with a 40-metre free to level the drawn 2000 All-Ireland semi-final, McCann was the story of the day. Kerry were three points ahead with time running out when he cleverly weaved his way inside the Kerry, defence and scored the equalising goal.



McCann was living in Dublin at the time and he made his own way home afterwards. The Armagh team bus was stopped in traffic as it waited to take the turn on to Clonliffe Road when a couple of the Armagh players spotted McCann drifting down Jones Road.His hair was still slightly wet and his cheeks were flush from the game but McCann had his gear-bag down by his side as he negotiated his way through the throng. While the Armagh players had their eyes trained on McCann, nobody on the street stopped him because nobody recognised him. Of all the players from Armagh's historic All-Ireland winning team, McCann had the lowest profile.

John Toal could maybe have been bracketed in that category, at the time but he was only in his second season while McCann had already done six years of hard times That Armagh team were the brand leaders of the modern game and were one of the most recognised and well received All-Ireland champions of the past two decades. And yet, McCann managed to operate on such a stage with the stealth and quiet efficiency of an undercover agent. He never sat on the executive of that team but the top table cherished him. "I don't say this lightly, says Paul McGrane, "but Andy McCann was definitely one of the most underrated footballers I ever played with or against. He was a class player for us."

"We used to always smile amongst ourselves about how understated Andy was," says Enda McNulty. "If you asked me to sum up Andy McCann, I'd describe him as the ice-man cometh. He always produced the goods on the, big day but he was a skilful and talented player too." McCann always liked it in the shade. He didn't' do interviews, he didn't bother with endorsements after 2002 and the hype around the whole team never hassled or interested him. He lived in Dublin and Kildare during most of his inter-county career and he travelled to Armagh on his own for training for the guts of a decade. Afterwards, he'd disappear out the door like a puff of smoke. "I probably am a shy type of person' but I'm the kind of person who just goes along and does the thing," says McCann. "I'd like to think that I made a good contribution to the whole Armagh success but I'd like to think that the other boys on the panel recognised my contribution.

That was always more, important to me than any praise or profile I got with being on that Armagh team. His consistency marked him apart of Armagh's 32 championship matches between 1997 and 2003, McCann started 31 and was substituted only three times. Those came in 2002 but McGrane leaps to his defence by recalling that McCann got married early that summer and missed the now famous training camp in La Manga. McGrane and McNulty say that they cannot once remember McCann getting cleaned out. McGrane has known McCann since P7 class in primary school and he says that he's still the same now as he was then; intelligent, witty, a quiet guy who always gets the job done".

Both played on the Armagh minor team that lost the 1992 All-Ireland final in harrowing circumstances. That team was dominated by big names from the footballing academies of St' Patrick's Armagh, Abbey CBS and St Colman's in Newry. McCann never had that grounding because he attended Lismore Comprehensive in Craigavon, where there was absolutely no football. Moreover, he played with Tir na nOg in Portadown, a club without power or prestige in Armagh. Brian Mallon has been part of the Armagh squad now for a number of years but before McCann arrived, nobody from Portadown had ever established a place on, the Armagh team. The Tirna nOg chairman, Liam Murray, has been a member of the club for 35 years and can't recall any other Portadown footballer playing championship before McCann. Bertie Madden and Dr Joe Fearon were on the fringes of the panel in the 1970s but they never played in the championship.

The club stands on the Garvaghy Road and overlooks Drumcree church. Their members always tried to insulate themselves from outside influences. "Portadown is mainly a Protestant town but playing GAA there didn't really impact much on us because the club was in the small Catholic area," says McCann. "The whole politics of the situation never really came into it and you just went to the club and played football like anywhere else. We just kept ourselves to ourselves but the club had great people, who kept it going through all the Troubles. McCann's desire and ambition kept him on the Armagh squad for 10 seasons. A three-month injury layoff before the 2004 championship hampered his involvement that season.

After losing his starting place for the first time before that year's Ulster final against Donegal,; he never got it back. Aaron Kernan established himself at wing-hack in 2005 and McCann's career began winding down. He cane on as a substitute in the 2005 All-Ireland semi-final defeat by Tyrone and walked away afterwards without any sounding of trumpets in the background. "Being honest, I wasn't really enjoying the trips to training anymore," he says. "It wasn't so much that I wasn't making the team, it was just that the enjoyment had gone. I know some of the lads really regret not winning that second All-Ireland but, to be honest, I don't really have any regrets. My attitude was that you just put your head down and keep trying until you can't try anymore. Most of the boys on that panel did that and it just didn't happen.

You put your heart and soul into it. but, when it doesn't happen, you move on and do something else." Despite such a settled inter-county career, McCann has had a nomadic existence as a club player. During part of his time spent living in Dublin, he played with Ballyboden-St Enda's. When he got married and moved to Leixlip, he transferred to the club there. Last year, he and, his family bought a house in Slane and his workmate and the Seneschalstown secretary, Ian Maguire asked McCann about joining the club. "People have often said stuff to me but as far as I'm concerned I only ever joined a club that I lived beside, he says. "I'd love to have stayed playing club football with Tir na nOg and won a championship with them. But if you want to have any sort of life outside of football, you can't really do it. I joined those other clubs because I intended on settling in those places and it was a similar reason for joining Seneschalstown.

You just want to fit into the community.Seneschalstown's first county title in 13 seasons was a huge lift to the club and the community for a number of reasons. The Meath school bus crash in 2005 happened on their doorstep and impacted on many local families. The success also provided McCann with a lift. Last summer, he was involved in a car crash and his nine-month-old daughter, Caoimhe, was killed. "We're doing all right, I suppose," he says. "My wife [Emma] and Eoin,{four-year-old son] are just trying to get on with life as best as we can. I don't really like talking about it. I suppose football has helped in that it helps take your mind of things at training for a couple of hours.

But it's something that I'll never get over. It has totally changed my life and my perspective. Football is about enjoying yourself and enjoying your game. That's it." At the start of the season, McCann probably didn't think we could win a county title, but Seneschalstown have kept their heads down and kept battling away. They only stumbled into a county quarter-final and then looked to have blown the title when Navan O'Mahony's scrambled a draw in the county final. The majority of their young team had lost three consecutive county U-21 finals to O'Mahony's but in the replay Seneschalstown blew their opponents out of the water - and with them went any preconceived psychological hang-ups.

McCann wouldn't want to take much credit for their progress this season but he has been a steady hand and presence among a young crop of players. He wouldn't have survived with Armagh for as long as he did or been as successful as he was without that cutting edge and desire. While he would never wish to be defined by the things he has said, he's imparted some of his knowledge and experience, through the medium of his discreet manner. Then he goes on to the field and just does the business.

"I'd like to think that I've had a bit of an input into Seneschalstown's success," says McCann. "I know for a fact that this is the only chance that I'll ever get to win a Leinster championship so I want to make it count. Last week showed we had the desire. It's great to have that winning feeling again but you have,to enjoy your football. We're playing like a team now that is enjoyng our football and having the game in Navan is a big boost. Hopefully we'll push on again; now."

Last Sunday, Paul McGrane and Cathal O'Rourke travelled to Dublin just to see McCann play. He lined out at centre-forward but all the old hallmarks of his game were still evident; hoovering up breaking ball, spraying quality passes and showing leadership in his quiet and understated fashion. Still the guy who just gets the job done. Still the iceman.

The Sunday Times

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 20, 2007, 05:01:13 PM
Thats article is excellent and a credit to the man. I didn't realise he was as quiet as that but i was aware he didn't like to be in the Lime Light.

It didn't mention about another accident in his family 5-6 years ago (hopefully someone else can clear this up) i think it was another car accident involving his brother and Mother????not to sure what happened but another unfortunate accident for the family to deal with.

It's a pity a few more of the inter county lads could be like Andy McCann. They wouldn't be running round looking to strike!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on November 20, 2007, 08:31:58 PM
spot on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 21, 2007, 03:59:46 PM
Not only was Andrew Mc Cann credit to Armagh but he was a credit to the GAA. This guy in his actions typifiies everything a GAA member should be. He did it all for the game and for the team mates around him. This is very rare in some counties  and perhaps the continuity between players exists stronger in clubs rather than county teams because they have grown up together all their lives. What i liked about the article most is the fact that Andrew never ever forgot his club Tir Na Nog. It claims he never regretted anything but you can tell he regretted leaving Tir Na Nog. He got on with the game he had played since a young lad and never got caught up in the media hype or any other distractions of the pitch. Fair play till him. It must also be stressed that throughout the Island of Ireland there are a lot of examples of this. Andrew is particularly poignant to us because of his service to Armagh. But to all the folk like Andrew around the land who do their bit and get on with it i would like to thank them. Without them our organisation would be rather meaningless in comparison. The GPA claim to be looking after Grassroots, if they went back to the grassroots they would find nothing they are doing would interest Andrew Mc Cann and many others.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 21, 2007, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 21, 2007, 03:59:46 PM
It claims he never regretted anything but you can tell he regretted leaving Tir Na Nog.

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 21, 2007, 05:06:45 PM
Full back you can laugh about that if you want and i am by no means a Tir Na Nog fan but at the end of the day that was his club and meant a lot to him. But feel free to mock away .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 21, 2007, 05:13:37 PM
 :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Athletic Grounds, Armagh
Post by: Armagh Exile on November 21, 2007, 06:42:39 PM
QuoteArmagh  Cavan  Athletic Grounds Armagh 03/02/2008 14:30

The above quote was taken from the Official Armagh County Website so it must be true.
I am delighted that the Athletic Grounds will be open for this opening NFL game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 21, 2007, 06:43:11 PM
ARMAGH UNDER-21 TRIAL

Armagh Under-21 Football Trials will commence on Saturday next, 24th November in the Callanbridge Complex, Armagh at 11.00am for 11.30am start.

The following players are requested to attend:-
Annaghmore: P McQuaid
Ballyhegan: J McKeever, C Morgan, B McArtarsney
Carrickcruppen: J Hughes, J Magill, M Kane, S Harold, S Loughran, M Patton
Clan na Gael: D McGeown, K Devine, L McGuigan, D Nash, C O'Hare, R O'Hara
Culloville: PJ Maguire, C Watters
Harps: K Kelly
Keady: R McGale, C Courtney
Killeavey: S O'Hanlon, R McConville, P Donnelly, D O'Hanlon, P Hannaway
Madden: E Mallon, D McKenna, J Feeney, K Morgan, B Morgan
Middletown: C Carville
Pearse Og: G Barton, S Moore, D McManus
Sarsfields: P McCaughey, P McGee, J Reynolds
Shane O'Neill's: J Goodwill, M Brady
Silverbridge: C Hughes, E Burns
St Patrick's: C Casey, B Savage
Tir na nÓg: P McDonald, D McDonald, T Marley, T Mulholland
Whitecross: A McCann
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Broken_Cross on November 21, 2007, 09:17:30 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 20, 2007, 05:01:13 PM
Thats article is excellent and a credit to the man. I didn't realise he was as quiet as that but i was aware he didn't like to be in the Lime Light.

It didn't mention about another accident in his family 5-6 years ago (hopefully someone else can clear this up) i think it was another car accident involving his brother and Mother????not to sure what happened but another unfortunate accident for the family to deal with.

It's a pity a few more of the inter county lads could be like Andy McCann. They wouldn't be running round looking to strike!!

It may have been James McCann, I played minor with him and he also kept a low profile - quite lad but skill to burn.

Too many of the Og's could/should have went on to make the grade at senior but didn't.

Good to see a decent call up for the U21's.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gold on November 21, 2007, 10:36:44 PM
Great Article about Andy McCann
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 22, 2007, 11:08:13 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 21, 2007, 06:43:11 PM
ARMAGH UNDER-21 TRIAL

Armagh Under-21 Football Trials will commence on Saturday next, 24th November in the Callanbridge Complex, Armagh at 11.00am for 11.30am start.

The following players are requested to attend:-
Annaghmore: P McQuaid
Ballyhegan: J McKeever, C Morgan, B McArtarsney
Carrickcruppen: J Hughes, J Magill, M Kane, S Harold, S Loughran, M Patton
Clan na Gael: D McGeown, K Devine, L McGuigan, D Nash, C O'Hare, R O'Hara
Culloville: PJ Maguire, C Watters
Harps: K Kelly
Keady: R McGale, C Courtney
Killeavey: S O'Hanlon, R McConville, P Donnelly, D O'Hanlon, P Hannaway
Madden: E Mallon, D McKenna, J Feeney, K Morgan, B Morgan
Middletown: C Carville
Pearse Og: G Barton, S Moore, D McManus
Sarsfields: P McCaughey, P McGee, J Reynolds
Shane O'Neill's: J Goodwill, M Brady
Silverbridge: C Hughes, E Burns
St Patrick's: C Casey, B Savage
Tir na nÓg: P McDonald, D McDonald, T Marley, T Mulholland
Whitecross: A McCann

Pints is that only half of the players for trials as i notice a number of clubs missing from that list
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on November 22, 2007, 11:13:13 AM
Quote from: illdecide on November 22, 2007, 11:08:13 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 21, 2007, 06:43:11 PM
ARMAGH UNDER-21 TRIAL

Armagh Under-21 Football Trials will commence on Saturday next, 24th November in the Callanbridge Complex, Armagh at 11.00am for 11.30am start.

The following players are requested to attend:-
Annaghmore: P McQuaid
Ballyhegan: J McKeever, C Morgan, B McArtarsney
Carrickcruppen: J Hughes, J Magill, M Kane, S Harold, S Loughran, M Patton
Clan na Gael: D McGeown, K Devine, L McGuigan, D Nash, C O'Hare, R O'Hara
Culloville: PJ Maguire, C Watters
Harps: K Kelly
Keady: R McGale, C Courtney
Killeavey: S O'Hanlon, R McConville, P Donnelly, D O'Hanlon, P Hannaway
Madden: E Mallon, D McKenna, J Feeney, K Morgan, B Morgan
Middletown: C Carville
Pearse Og: G Barton, S Moore, D McManus
Sarsfields: P McCaughey, P McGee, J Reynolds
Shane O'Neill's: J Goodwill, M Brady
Silverbridge: C Hughes, E Burns
St Patrick's: C Casey, B Savage
Tir na nÓg: P McDonald, D McDonald, T Marley, T Mulholland
Whitecross: A McCann

Pints is that only half of the players for trials as i notice a number of clubs missing from that list

The Cross players would be missing for obvious reasons. But I do notice that no Dromintee players are included in this trial list? Is there a second trial of some sort?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 22, 2007, 11:33:50 AM
I would say so as there a right few clubs missing from that list
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on November 22, 2007, 11:39:43 AM
What other clubs are missing?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on November 22, 2007, 11:47:45 AM
Harold, saw that article in the paper last Sunday myself.

Sticky is a twat! (Don't tell him I said that!)

Surely Fr Bertie Watson from our club was a County regular in the 50s and as far as I remember he featured in Jerome's top 100 Ulster Championship scorers?

Also the great Jack Brattan and Des Harney, two County stalwarts, ended their club careers with Tir Na Nog, although admittedly they were  more famous as Harps men and hailed from Armagh city. Still technically they were Tir Na Nog players and they played for Armagh in the Championship.

Also I bet Conor S is pleased that Sticky omitted him from those on the fringes of the Armagh panel in the 70s and 80s, being the publicity shy individual that he is! Conor asked, not too long ago, my sister in law about the internet and how he could prove to doubters that he did actually play for Armagh :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 22, 2007, 01:25:49 PM

QuotePints is that only half of the players for trials as i notice a number of clubs missing from that list
I got it of orchard county and the impression I got was that it was the whole list.

Cross probably excluded for obvious reasons. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on November 22, 2007, 01:34:24 PM

we'd have a couple of very good forwards who start for our senior team who'd be eligible for u21 next year. very confusing that both lads wouldn't get a trial
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 22, 2007, 01:57:07 PM
I would expect there will be another trial.
Any player who was nominated by his club will get a trial
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 22, 2007, 02:28:03 PM
Quote from: High Catch on November 22, 2007, 11:39:43 AM
What other clubs are missing?

Maghery, Mullaghabawn, Crossmaglen, Dromintee, Granemore, Clann Eireann, St Peters, Wolfe Tones. I stopped after that amount and i'm sure there are loads more
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on November 22, 2007, 02:43:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 22, 2007, 02:28:03 PM
Quote from: High Catch on November 22, 2007, 11:39:43 AM
What other clubs are missing?

Maghery, Mullaghabawn, Crossmaglen, Dromintee, Granemore, Clann Eireann, St Peters, Wolfe Tones. I stopped after that amount and i'm sure there are loads more

As already stated, its obvious why Cross players are missing.  There are some players from Dromintee certainly worth a trial.  The reasons for the others clubs being excluded could be either they have no players worthy of a trial or that they have players who are automatically on the panel and don't need to attend a trial? I can't see how a full trial could be made up of the teams mentioned above?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 22, 2007, 02:50:31 PM
I may be wrong, but werent The GAA at croke park in talks about abolishing the U21 and minor c'ships and creating a new U19 c'ship, or was it just talking shite for the sake of talking shite :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 22, 2007, 04:14:08 PM
I would imagine that there will be a second team because from my own clubs viewpoint there are two or three lads who should probably make the squad or be very close. Not sure if one is the right age though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 22, 2007, 06:30:15 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 22, 2007, 06:18:37 PM
I reckon there's a load of fella that are just straight onto the panel. The likes of Toner and McClelland from Granmore wouldn't need to go to trials.

are they still u21 next year?  cant be.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on November 22, 2007, 07:48:28 PM
is the new senior management team the U21 management?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 22, 2007, 09:15:20 PM
Lads ffs it is the same with any trial that has ever occured in Armagh. The majority of the team is already picked from the so called dominant clubs. Anyone on the list for the early trials will be fringe players at most. This is an absolute disgrace because everyone should earn a place on the team and go for a trial wih the rest. This is what discourages young fellows from playing senior football with their clubs. They go to these trials and play well but yet they never get a second bite of the cherry. So it is a trial basically to give the minnows no excuse to say the management that they deserved a trial. It used to be the same with the college players they used join Armagh minor panels about 2 months into the season and then when the panel was cut till the 24 it was the lads who had been there from the start of the year. Now i am not saying that you shouldn't pick your best players but you most go about it in the correct way. Make the trials fair and equal and totally visible to the public then there will be no arguments and confussion about the whole issue.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 22, 2007, 09:30:14 PM
QuoteThis is what discourages young fellows from playing senior football with their clubs.

In fairness I think most young fellas play for their clubs for the sake of it, not just to get onto a county panel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 23, 2007, 09:14:57 AM
Winsam has a fair point there. Lads told me last year about the U21's that they started of with about 60 lads for trials and withered it down every week yet come near the end of the trials that there was only about 4 places up for grabs as the big guns have still to come in. FFS what way is that to treat them young lads, i trained and managed a good lot of our young lads and they always told me there was no point in going to these trials as the team was already picked with the exception of 3-4 positions. I know you should go and give it your all and make them pick you with your performances but it's not a very good incentive for them knowing 3/4 of the team is already in place.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seeheartalk on November 23, 2007, 12:02:49 PM
McKenna Cup draw. 3 games in seven days and we have to go to Cavan in midweek.
Balls
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on November 23, 2007, 02:06:05 PM
toner and mc celland are still u21 but toner has just left 4 australia, but dnt no how long he is gone 4!! so he may not b playin next yr at all!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 23, 2007, 02:08:31 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 22, 2007, 09:30:14 PM
QuoteThis is what discourages young fellows from playing senior football with their clubs.

In fairness I think most young fellas play for their clubs for the sake of it, not just to get onto a county panel.


And who said they played for their clubs to get onto a county panel????? I was talking about players who are coming through the ranks and when they reach minor and under 21, which is a crucial stage then they are sent for Armagh trials, which are a farce. They then adopt a bad attitude and decide well if there is no reward in this then maybe we should just drink on saturdays before games and maybe we just won't turn up. I don't think i know anyone on our senior panel who plays as you say "just for the sake of it" I think any fella who trains sometimes 3 times a week and at 7 on saturday morning has a little more at stake than "just for the sake of it" TacadoirArdMhacha If you have players at your club who just turn up for the sake of it then i suggest you start building a team with players who actually care. I don't know what club you are from but, i can rule out Cross, because i know everyone of them guys play damn hard to keep the shirt on their backs as do many other clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 23, 2007, 04:05:26 PM
Quote from: downtown on November 23, 2007, 02:06:05 PM
toner and mc celland are still u21 but toner has just left 4 australia, but dnt no how long he is gone 4!! so he may not b playin next yr at all!
McClelland has wrecked his knee from what I hear and he'll hardly be playing before late spring.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 23, 2007, 08:45:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 23, 2007, 09:14:57 AM
Winsam has a fair point there. Lads told me last year about the U21's that they started of with about 60 lads for trials and withered it down every week yet come near the end of the trials that there was only about 4 places up for grabs as the big guns have still to come in. FFS what way is that to treat them young lads, i trained and managed a good lot of our young lads and they always told me there was no point in going to these trials as the team was already picked with the exception of 3-4 positions. I know you should go and give it your all and make them pick you with your performances but it's not a very good incentive for them knowing 3/4 of the team is already in place.
I don't understand why everyone isn't treated equally. 


ARMAGH MINOR FOOTBALL TRIALS

Newly appointed Armagh Minor Football team manager, Paul McShane, has organised squad trials for tomorrow (Saturday 24th November) at Fr Dan McGeown Park, Derrytrasna, for North Armagh player and at St Patrick's College, Armagh for Mid Armagh players. On Sunday Peter Keeley Park, Silverbridge is the venue for South Armagh players.

North Armagh
The following North Armagh players are requested to attend Fr Dan McGeown Park (Sarsfields) at 9.15am on Saturday 24th November:-
Annaghmore: O MacLomhar, C McCann, N McGilly
Clan na Gael: N Cumiskey, C McKendry, G Morgan, S O'Hagan, S Farren, J Stewart, N McCann, S Campbell
Clonmore: J Grimley
St Paul's: A Ganley, A Murin, D Toal, N McParland, D McDonald, A McCaughley, C Toman
St Peter's: N Creaney, O Magee, E Haughian, C Keegan, P Hughes, D Kelly, S McCaughley, S Marshall, T Flynn
Sarsfields: M Stevenson, M Murray, D Breen, S Tighe
Tir na nÓg: A Kelly, T Mulholland, M Davidson, B Reid, S Kelly

Mid Armagh
The following Mid Armagh players are requested to attend St Patrick's College, Armagh at 12.15pm on Saturday 24th November:-
Ballyhegan: S Fearon, S McNally, G Quinn, J McKeever, A Kelly, R Devlin, S McNally
Ballymacnab: N Gribbon, R Grugan, R Kennedy, G McParland
Clady: D McParland, J Dillon
Derrynoose: S McNaughton, M Lennon, D Vallely
Granemore: P McClelland, J Carr, D Carr, S Rafferty, C Rafferty, JJ Powell
Pearse Og: J Graham, L Ward, A Duffy, M Gribben, S Coady

South Armagh
The following South Armagh Players are requested to attend Peter Keeley Park, Silverbridge at 8.45am:-
Belleek: D McGovern, C Toner, B O'Callaghan, B McDonnell, L Quinn
Carrickcruppen: P McCullough, T Hughes, K McVerry, C O'Grady, M Fallon, D Crozier, D Monaghan
Corrinshego: D Markey, R McWilliams, J Dinsmore
Culloville: N Watters, B Watters, N Rowland, C Hoey, P Caherty
Dromintee: C O'Neill, F Murphy, E Fearon, P Courtney, S Egan
Forkhill: P Curran, S Sheridan
Killeavey: C King, J Donnelly, K Downey, C McNulty, J McGuinness
Lissummon: S Matthews
O'Hanlon's: D Hudson, R Hudson
St Michael's: P O'Rourke, C Watters, D Mullen
St Patrick's: E McArdle, T Donnelly, R Tasker, C O'Neill, S McGlade, K McEvoy
Shane O'Neill's: K McParland, C O'Neill, M McKeown, NP Lennon, P O'Brien
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on November 23, 2007, 11:36:07 PM
Great article about Andrew, one of the finest men I have ever had the priviledge of knowing and i think the other accident being refered to involved Paul.  Andrew and his family have gone through so much on recent years but hes never been one to complain.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 24, 2007, 01:09:56 AM
Quote
South Armagh
The following South Armagh Players are requested to attend Peter Keeley Park, Silverbridge at 8.45am:-
Belleek: D McGovern, C Toner, B O'Callaghan, B McDonnell, L Quinn
Carrickcruppen: P McCullough, T Hughes, K McVerry, C O'Grady, M Fallon, D Crozier, D Monaghan
Corrinshego: D Markey, R McWilliams, J Dinsmore
Culloville: N Watters, B Watters, N Rowland, C Hoey, P Caherty
Dromintee: C O'Neill, F Murphy, E Fearon, P Courtney, S Egan
Forkhill: P Curran, S Sheridan
Killeavey: C King, J Donnelly, K Downey, C McNulty, J McGuinness
Lissummon: S Matthews
O'Hanlon's: D Hudson, R Hudson
St Michael's: P O'Rourke, C Watters, D Mullen
St Patrick's: E McArdle, T Donnelly, R Tasker, C O'Neill, S McGlade, K McEvoy
Shane O'Neill's: K McParland, C O'Neill, M McKeown, NP Lennon, P O'Brien

Very strange for there to be no Cross lads invited to trials at all. No reason why not either. Anyone know of any explanation?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on November 24, 2007, 04:22:21 AM
The Cross boys are taking after Francie, they do not go to trials the trials come to them. ;)


Is it an oversight or because they are still playing?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 24, 2007, 12:04:27 PM
Cross are representing Armagh in the Ulster club final tomorrow.
Many thanks for all the god luck messages from our fellow gaels in the orchard county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 24, 2007, 12:04:57 PM
But sure they aren't still playing. Its St Pats who won the county championship and will play in Ulster.

Can't be many of them on the senior panel I woulda thought.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 24, 2007, 03:14:44 PM
Jesus !! I can't spell !!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 24, 2007, 03:34:57 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 24, 2007, 12:04:27 PM
Cross are representing Armagh in the Ulster club final tomorrow.
Many thanks for all the god luck messages from our fellow gaels in the orchard county.
::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on November 24, 2007, 11:23:58 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 24, 2007, 12:04:27 PM
Cross are representing Armagh in the Ulster club final tomorrow.
Many thanks for all the god luck messages from our fellow gaels in the orchard county.

Is there a cryptic message in there somewhere?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 25, 2007, 01:50:03 PM
Pints i see you have posted that article to illustrate that the system is fair??? or maybe i have took it up wrong. as the lads have pointed out there are no cross boys, why?? their seniors are playing in the ulster but surely they could send their minors to a trial.
Anyway i fancy st Galls today lads, but i hope to christ i am wrong and the Cross do it all over again. They are representing us today so i wish all the lads all the best of luck .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 25, 2007, 02:21:45 PM
QuotePints i see you have posted that article to illustrate that the system is fair??? or maybe i have took it up wrong.

No, those two things just happened to be in the same post, I was making no point with that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 25, 2007, 06:51:38 PM
my apologies el pints good win for the cross the run goes on. well done lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 26, 2007, 10:44:40 AM
Well done Cross!!

Has the draw been made for the semi finals. That Ballina team looks good and i think St Vincents and Nemo Rangers are the other 2 semi finalists (correct me if i'm wrong, as i'm not sure if that was the semi or finals they played at the weekend)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 26, 2007, 12:15:08 PM
St vincents and nemo are only into their provincial finals. St Vincent will play Kildare team, Moorefield in the final and Nemo will play waterford champions, ballinacourty who surpirisingly beat the Kerry champions to reach their first ever munster title. All in all a good weekend for the bookie again that waterford team were a massive price.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 26, 2007, 12:31:32 PM
The winners of Cross v Tir Conail Gaels play the Leinster champions
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 26, 2007, 12:37:25 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 26, 2007, 12:31:32 PM
The winners of Cross v Tir Conail Gaels play the Leinster champions

Oh is that the way of it. I thought that was Cross in the semi's :-[, they have to play the London team for a place in the semi's. Where will that game be played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seeheartalk on November 26, 2007, 01:29:12 PM
London in the last week of January. Is The Church still rocking over there, anybody?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 26, 2007, 05:15:08 PM
Lads is there any new Managerial positions within the county??? Or any ones with the sack to report. Or worse still what about transfers to other clubs (Harps and Ogs don't count ;)).

As for the Clans i heard Paul Kelly (Last years Armagh minor manager) was coming in with Bumpy to help him but nothing has been put in stone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaa.boy on November 26, 2007, 06:15:16 PM
I Believe John Rath will be coming back to take the Harps Seniors
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on November 26, 2007, 06:22:59 PM
i hear carrickcruppen are looking at paul carroll + jim loughran for next season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 26, 2007, 10:25:38 PM
Lads just seeing that Cross have to travel to London. Who pays for the transport of the cross team to London?? I was thinking it would be the Ulster council??? Would this then mean that the cross don't get any money from gate receipts from their games???? If any of you guys know for definite about this let me know.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on November 26, 2007, 10:53:04 PM
Croke park pay for flight and accomodation as far as I know. That's what happens for national league games!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 26, 2007, 10:56:53 PM
Was there a right bit of hassle about this the last time Cross had to go? Though in that case I think they had only a week or so to get the thing sorted
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 27, 2007, 09:02:54 AM
Mullaghbawn had a chartered flight booked in 95 for the fans, don't know who paid for it though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 27, 2007, 12:09:25 PM
The Church is still rocking all right

Its moved up to Kentish town direction

You defintely need the monday off if your thinking about headin to it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 27, 2007, 03:23:43 PM
I know you Umgola, you wouldnt make to work until Wed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Broken_Cross on November 27, 2007, 03:54:18 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 26, 2007, 05:15:08 PM
Lads is there any new Managerial positions within the county??? Or any ones with the sack to report. Or worse still what about transfers to other clubs (Harps and Ogs don't count ;)).

As for the Clans i heard Paul Kelly (Last years Armagh minor manager) was coming in with Bumpy to help him but nothing has been put in stone.

T Feron / J Kernan have been given the reigns at Portadown

Do you mean player or manager transfers?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 27, 2007, 04:42:00 PM
Quote from: Broken_Cross on November 27, 2007, 03:54:18 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 26, 2007, 05:15:08 PM
Lads is there any new Managerial positions within the county??? Or any ones with the sack to report. Or worse still what about transfers to other clubs (Harps and Ogs don't count ;)).

As for the Clans i heard Paul Kelly (Last years Armagh minor manager) was coming in with Bumpy to help him but nothing has been put in stone.

T Feron / J Kernan have been given the reigns at Portadown

Do you mean player or manager transfers?

Both, anything that will give us something to slabber about
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 27, 2007, 05:05:49 PM
T Feron/ J Kernan has to be a wind up  :)  :)  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 28, 2007, 09:34:14 AM
T Fearon is a soccer man. Big Joe wouldn't have him any where near him...Plus where would Porty get £750 a week for Joe's grub
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Broken_Cross on November 28, 2007, 01:02:30 PM

I don't think he'd be in it for the money/food  - the potenital of another club opening in the area will attract many a hungry bugger.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 29, 2007, 12:30:59 PM
Lads i know there is not much to talk about this wheather ??? Are any of you guys going out for this Christmas drink thingie on the other thread or should we have our own Armagh one. I know a lot of you men want to keep you identities hidden but what the hell.

BTW i seen excavators working around the Pathetic Grounds yesterday, she'll be ready in no time at all ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 29, 2007, 03:47:28 PM
One is armagh or newry would be the ticket . Preferably at a weekend where you can get a wee lie in the next day and die in splendid peace just yourself and the pillow without any nagging or anything.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on November 29, 2007, 10:40:06 PM
I'd go!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 30, 2007, 09:27:50 AM
Is it an open Invitation? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 30, 2007, 10:41:48 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on November 30, 2007, 09:27:50 AM
Is it an open Invitation? ;)

Of course it is but going on the level of interest so far doesn't look like the lads are interested. Jasus Pints could even let his hair down and if his luck was really in we could get him an old floozy for under the mistletoe :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 30, 2007, 12:33:58 PM
ILLDECIDE

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE IS NOT MUCH TO TALK ABOUT.
YOUR COUNTY CHAMPIONS ARE AFTER WINNING THE ULSTER TITLE FOR A RECORD SIXTH TIME. !!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 30, 2007, 12:56:39 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 30, 2007, 12:33:58 PM
ILLDECIDE

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE IS NOT MUCH TO TALK ABOUT.
YOUR COUNTY CHAMPIONS ARE AFTER WINNING THE ULSTER TITLE FOR A RECORD SIXTH TIME. !!!

aye i know but that has been discussed on 2 other threads ;) Do you remember the time when Clans won 3 Ulsters in a row (i don't but i was told about it). Anyway as i said we need a few different stories to slabber about as most of the lads have gone quiet on the board (well just the Armagh club thread)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 30, 2007, 02:03:19 PM
Crossfire it might be that some people don't like talking about the cross, but his gets back to the jelousy thread i wouldn't want to reincarnate this argument :) Go on now and win the all Ireland Then other northern team can dominate again. But the night out if it happens would provide some food for thought.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seeheartalk on November 30, 2007, 02:46:48 PM
Anyone going to tonight's county dinner dance? Should be good to see the U21s get their medals. Wonder if Armagh hurlers will be given due respect.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on November 30, 2007, 03:10:43 PM
I'll be there, though don't think it'll be the good night your expecting
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on November 30, 2007, 03:16:39 PM
the armagh board has gone quiet cos
1 there are no matches
2 no talk coming out of the county set up yet
does anyone know who is actually training the senior team  is it denis holywood
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 30, 2007, 03:19:07 PM
Quote from: naka on November 30, 2007, 03:16:39 PM
the armagh board has gone quiet cos
1 there are no matches
2 no talk coming out of the county set up yet
does anyone know who is actually training the senior team  is it denis holywood

I think Holywood & O 'Kane are involved
Harps posters would know better about O 'Kane
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on November 30, 2007, 06:45:19 PM
Is the BIG red book out tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on November 30, 2007, 10:41:58 PM
No Tones men getting geared up for tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on December 01, 2007, 01:24:14 PM
theres not much to talk about til the mckenna cup starts. Is there goin to any chnages to the all county leagues?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 01, 2007, 08:35:11 PM
QuoteARMAGH GAA ANNUAL AWARDS

County Player: Ciaran McKeever
Division One Player: Gregory Loughran (Pearse Og)
Division Two Player: Liam O'Hare (St Patrick's)
Division Three Player: Richard Stevenson (Sarsfields)
Division Four Player: Noel Murray (Derrynoose)
Club of the Year: Crossmaglen
Personality of the Year: Dermot Austin (Sarsfields)

The Armagh team and substititutes which won the Ulster Under-21 Football Championship also received their medals which were presented by Ulster Council President, Tom Daly, who hails from Donegal.

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on December 02, 2007, 01:48:09 PM
QuoteARMAGH GAA ANNUAL AWARDS

County Player: Ciaran McKeever
Division One Player: Gregory Loughran (Pearse Og)
Division Two Player: Liam O'Hare (St Patrick's)
Division Three Player: Richard Stevenson (Sarsfields)
Division Four Player: Noel Murray (Derrynoose)
Club of the Year: Crossmaglen
Personality of the Year: Dermot Austin (Sarsfields)

The Armagh team and substititutes which won the Ulster Under-21 Football Championship also received their medals which were presented by Ulster Council President, Tom Daly, who hails from Donegal.

Both very well deserved.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 02, 2007, 01:51:32 PM
Aye Ciaran McKeever is a real role model and how many league games (county) was he roasted in?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 02, 2007, 09:22:58 PM
Still showing your Cullyhanna bias, Pints?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 02, 2007, 09:23:51 PM
Bias or not, am I wrong in what I said?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 02, 2007, 09:37:50 PM
Yes you are wrong and your obsession is getting out of hand at this stage.

With only 2 championship matches and a pooe league campaign there wouldn't have been an awful lot of candidates but Ciaran played very well in both the championship matches and has been consistently good for Armagh for the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 02, 2007, 09:54:35 PM
Well tac, what's the craic  ;)


I note you can't argue that he's a good role model. I don't know how he got it, maybe he threatened county board officials again?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on December 02, 2007, 11:55:56 PM

Was it an award for county role model of the year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 03, 2007, 12:03:31 AM
I'd think it should be considered plus his league performances.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 03, 2007, 08:53:48 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 03, 2007, 12:03:31 AM
I'd think it should be considered plus his league performances.

Not sure about the league but he only mangaed a 1/2 against Derry and although he was decent against Donegal i can't re-call him doing anything out of the ordinary in the league either. Although on the other hand who else would have got it.

Pints, you are prob half right there it just so happens to be a Cullyhanna man thats why they have their doubts about your remarks. Other than that all the rest of the awards were prob justified
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seeheartalk on December 03, 2007, 11:13:17 AM
Still no handballer of the year? Heard on the 5FM show last night that it is the second year in a row that it hasn't been awarded despite being in the dinner dance programe. Whats that about? Last year Armagh had a world champion, this year we have had Charlie Shanks and James Doyle competing on the international scene.
Oh jesus was it one dry dinner dance. Why was Joe Kernan not given an award?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on December 03, 2007, 11:24:31 AM

AFAIK the players vote for their player of the year so you'd probably need to amend the criteria you give them. i'd heard there is a whole separate night for big joe's awards?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 03, 2007, 11:51:02 AM
Yeah it is Dennis Hollywood and the guy from the harps doing the training and i here is a tight shift. That club brugges is some team they done the deciding last night  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 03, 2007, 01:27:13 PM
QuoteNot sure about the league but he only mangaed a 1/2 against Derry and although he was decent against Donegal i can't re-call him doing anything out of the ordinary in the league either. Although on the other hand who else would have got it.

I would have thought someone other than a sc**bag (that rules out Mal Mackin) should have got it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 03, 2007, 10:51:04 PM
POG, why laugh at Cross for the team of the year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 03, 2007, 10:52:55 PM
It was club of the year and I just thought it was predictable.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 03, 2007, 11:08:11 PM
Sadly they always probably deserve it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 03, 2007, 11:10:39 PM
If it was for club team of the year they would.
It's for club of the year which isn't just about winning.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 04, 2007, 08:57:56 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 03, 2007, 11:10:39 PM
If it was for club team of the year they would.
It's for club of the year which isn't just about winning.

Sorry to tell you pints but when you have the mentality of "isn't just about winning" that's why some teams will never win anything. If they don't believe and have the will to win they'll always be a looser (and i don't mean you personnally before you get roped into me ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on December 04, 2007, 11:53:01 AM
Pints, are you thinking when you say Club of the year you mean not just on the field but off the field, and if you are i think you have a valid point.  If that was the case yes Silverbridge should have won it in recognition for all the work they have done, but what criteria is the county board(or those who voted) looking for, must be simply winners.
Also good to see a big third level GAA game in South Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 04, 2007, 01:36:47 PM
QuotePints, are you thinking when you say Club of the year you mean not just on the field but off the field, and if you are i think you have a valid point.
That's exactly what I'm saying.


I'm not even just thinking of the 'bridge (though you'd think with spending half a million on new fields, opening new changing rooms and renovating the club would give you a shout! - though as far as I recall we've never won it so we wouldn't have when we opened the Resource Centre either) but why don't they look around the county and see who's doing what.  What clubs are working to improve facilities or working with the youngsters.  A good Club isn't about how many medals the senior team have!
If it is, why don't they just hand it to the senior county champions every year?


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 04, 2007, 02:05:24 PM
Been told Paul Turley is the new Ballyhegan Manager.

Opinions??? Especially from Ogs people?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on December 04, 2007, 02:10:13 PM
i trained under him before, an excellant coach, prepares his teams brillantly, a very intelligent man
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on December 04, 2007, 04:39:54 PM
Where was this topgun, in Tomneys or PB's???  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on December 04, 2007, 05:24:17 PM
It's hard to look past Cross for club of the year esp as they won the Ulster title
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on December 04, 2007, 06:33:57 PM
spot on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 04, 2007, 08:39:06 PM
QuoteI note you can't argue that he's a good role model. I don't know how he got it, maybe he threatened county board officials again?

1. The award had nothing to do with being a role model

2. Why is he expected to be a role model anyway?

As it happens, he's probably as good a role model as any other intercounty footballer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 04, 2007, 08:45:56 PM
Quote
1. The award had nothing to do with being a role model
Clearly not.

Quote
2. Why is he expected to be a role model anyway?
It goes with the terrority of being with a county player. 

QuoteAs it happens, he's probably as good a role model as any other intercounty footballer.
aye  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on December 05, 2007, 11:04:51 AM

and the only club i see who could have rivalled cross for club of the year is cullyhanna, with the tremendous success they achieved in underage football this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on December 05, 2007, 05:31:56 PM
Jealous Pints !!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 05, 2007, 06:44:38 PM
You'd think so crossfire but actually I'm not in the slightest, I place a lot more value on the great things about the bridge than I do about success and winning - of course it'd be nice. 


Tell me crossfire, when's the last time yous ran a big fundraising night?
I remember being at one about October last year when yous had a bit of an auction - your only county players there were the Kernans - fair play to them.  Mind you the rest of the lads were probably right to stay away because having someone stand at the top of the hall telling jokes about the O'Rourke's and Dromintee was just cringe cringe cringe!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Old Bill on December 05, 2007, 07:29:55 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 05, 2007, 06:44:38 PM
You'd think so crossfire but actually I'm not in the slightest, I place a lot more value on the great things about the bridge than I do about success and winning - of course it'd be nice. 


Tell me crossfire, when's the last time yous ran a big fundraising night?
I remember being at one about October last year when yous had a bit of an auction - your only county players there were the Kernans - fair play to them.  Mind you the rest of the lads were probably right to stay away because having someone stand at the top of the hall telling jokes about the O'Rourke's and Dromintee was just cringe cringe cringe!


What jokes were they pints? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 05, 2007, 07:36:07 PM
Cant really remember any of them now, there were some in relation to Dromintee choking.
I do recall one that started off with the O'rourkes going out to train one day and there was some badger and they went out the next day and the badger was there again and ten minutes later we got to the punch line that Cathal ate martin I think - it was very confusing and just cringe!  He went on and on and on.  To be fair there weren't many laughs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Old Bill on December 05, 2007, 08:01:34 PM
No i wouldn pay in to hear yon carry on!  wldn be my sense of humour!  Altho i would have alot of time for the kernan as u alluded to in one of your previous posts!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on December 06, 2007, 10:52:19 AM
***Club Tacaíochta Ard Mhacha***

Inter County football nowadays involves an incredible amount of organization, preparation, backup services etc. and no stone has been left unturned in the effort to get Armagh a step closer to glory.  The team benefits from great sponsors and also from the vocal support at the matches but as always there is huge amount of financial help required to sustain the effort. You can do your bit by joining Club Tacaíochta Ard Mhacha, Armagh's new official supporters club. Club Tacaíochta Ard Mhacha are committed to making a sizeable contribution to the ongoing cause that is Armagh GAA teams.  There are 2 levels of membership outlined below:

Adult Membership - £30
Membership Card
Key ring
Pin
Car Sticker
Special Promotions throughout the year
Monthly Prize Draw
Monthly Newsletter Emailed


Juvenile (U-18) Membership - £15
Membership Card
Key Ring
Pin
Wristband
Monthly Prize Draw
Monthly Newsletter Emailed


Just seen this on the Official Armagh Website. Whats the opinions?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 06, 2007, 10:57:09 AM
Would membership entitle you to purchase match tickets?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on December 06, 2007, 11:00:08 AM
Here i just posted what i saw, i have my own opinions about this venture but will lie in wait til i hear more about it.

personally i think whats on offer for £30 is a bit of a pisstake.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Old Bill on December 06, 2007, 11:41:00 AM
What happened the orchard club?  was it not the official supporters club?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on December 06, 2007, 11:48:21 AM
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on December 06, 2007, 10:52:19 AM
***Club Tacaíochta Ard Mhacha***

Inter County football nowadays involves an incredible amount of organization, preparation, backup services etc. and no stone has been left unturned in the effort to get Armagh a step closer to glory.  The team benefits from great sponsors and also from the vocal support at the matches but as always there is huge amount of financial help required to sustain the effort. You can do your bit by joining Club Tacaíochta Ard Mhacha, Armagh's new official supporters club. Club Tacaíochta Ard Mhacha are committed to making a sizeable contribution to the ongoing cause that is Armagh GAA teams.  There are 2 levels of membership outlined below:

Adult Membership - £30
Membership Card
Key ring
Pin
Car Sticker
Special Promotions throughout the year
Monthly Prize Draw
Monthly Newsletter Emailed


Juvenile (U-18) Membership - £15
Membership Card
Key Ring
Pin
Wristband
Monthly Prize Draw
Monthly Newsletter Emailed


Just seen this on the Official Armagh Website. Whats the opinions?

is this a pisstake?i think the players should donate their gpa wages/grant to the cause.asking hardworking people to give their money to help them play even though they are getting very very well looked after
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardal on December 06, 2007, 12:07:31 PM
What didn't they simply call it "club orange", hey presto, you've automaticvally got extra sponsorship without asking the average supporter to cough up more
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on December 06, 2007, 12:08:15 PM
Quote from: altovito on December 06, 2007, 11:48:21 AM
asking hardworking people to give their money to help them play even though they are getting very very well looked after

where has this happened?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on December 06, 2007, 12:20:03 PM
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on December 06, 2007, 10:52:19 AM
The team benefits from great sponsors and also from the vocal support at the matches but as always there is huge amount of financial help required to sustain the effort. You can do your bit by joining Club Tacaíochta Ard Mhacha,

unless i am mistaken this looks like we are being asked to give money
i urge all right thinking armagh folk to give nothing if the gpa wages/grants go ahead
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on December 06, 2007, 01:01:17 PM

You are aware that the government pay the player maintenance grants?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on December 06, 2007, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: DMarsden on December 06, 2007, 01:01:17 PM
You are aware that the government pay the player maintenance grants?

i am well aware of who pays them.the bottom line is the players are getting money for representing our county.i am also being asked as well to 'do my bit' by donating money.instead of us donating money why dont the county players donate their money?we are paying during the year by following the team to support OUR COUNTY
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on December 06, 2007, 01:16:43 PM

no, they are getting maintenance grants from the government to facilitate better training and preparation. noone gets paid to play for YOUR county. not officially anyway.

How do you now they won't donate their grants to the county training fund?

You pay the GAA all year to follow your county. armagh clg get none of that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on December 06, 2007, 01:30:33 PM
Quote from: DMarsden on December 06, 2007, 01:16:43 PM

no, they are getting maintenance grants from the government to facilitate better training and preparation. noone gets paid to play for YOUR county. not officially anyway.

How do you now they won't donate their grants to the county training fund?

You pay the GAA all year to follow your county. armagh clg get none of that

i didnt say it was 'my' county i said it was 'our' county which includes the people who do voluntary work within the county.we will see at the end of next year when the accounts are officially release if the players donated their wages/grants although i doubt if this will happen and i suspect so do you.if i play for crossmaglen and havnt had a break for over 18 months am i any less deserving of getting money than someone who is a squad member of the county panel who can be out of the championship by July?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 06, 2007, 01:34:23 PM
Quote***Club Tacaíochta Ard Mhacha***

Inter County football nowadays involves an incredible amount of organization, preparation, backup services etc. and no stone has been left unturned in the effort to get Armagh a step closer to glory.  The team benefits from great sponsors and also from the vocal support at the matches but as always there is huge amount of financial help required to sustain the effort. You can do your bit by joining Club Tacaíochta Ard Mhacha, Armagh's new official supporters club. Club Tacaíochta Ard Mhacha are committed to making a sizeable contribution to the ongoing cause that is Armagh GAA teams.  There are 2 levels of membership outlined below:

Adult Membership - £30
Membership Card
Key ring
Pin
Car Sticker
Special Promotions throughout the year
Monthly Prize Draw
Monthly Newsletter Emailed


Juvenile (U-18) Membership - £15
Membership Card
Key Ring
Pin
Wristband
Monthly Prize Draw
Monthly Newsletter Emailed


Just seen this on the Official Armagh Website. Whats the opinions?

Jesus they some neck on them

I think I'll keep my money.


DMarsden, second time I've asked you, what club are you from?
btw, you do realise that if these grants go through you're going to see a great reduction in people prepared to put their hand in their pocket for the county?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on December 06, 2007, 01:42:05 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 06, 2007, 01:34:23 PM
btw, you do realise that if these grants go through you're going to see a great reduction in people prepared to put their hand in their pocket for the county?

Thats just what I was thinking
When was this posted on the website - timing isnt great considering the furore over grants
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 06, 2007, 01:57:09 PM
It is a joke of a club but it will be subscribed to by the hundreds of people who still put County before Club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 06, 2007, 03:30:53 PM
There lies the problem corn the county over club shite. Half of the ones who follow the county have never been involved in a club scene or else only by name.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 06, 2007, 03:54:53 PM
Exactly Win and I do not see the trend changing anytime soon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 06, 2007, 05:04:39 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 06, 2007, 03:54:53 PM
Exactly Win and I do not see the trend changing anytime soon.

WELL FOR THE NEXT FEW YEARS THEY MIGHT HAVE TO GO TO CLUB GAMES TO WATCH FOOTBALL AS ARMAGH WILL PROB NOT VENTURE TOO FAR IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP. I SPOKE TO A GUY EARLIER IN THE YEAR WHO FOLLOWED ARMAGH EVERYWHERE AND KNEW EVERYTHING DOWN TO WHAT THE ATE AND SHIT BUT HE LAUGHED SAYING HE HADN'T WATCHED A CLUB GAME IN 10 YEARS, THATS THE TYPE OF BREEDS OUT THERE >:( >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 06, 2007, 06:20:41 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 06, 2007, 01:57:09 PM
It is a joke of a club but it will be subscribed to by the hundreds of people who still put County before Club.
I think you'll find that when Armagh struggle in the championship for a few years that they'll not have that many subscribing and they'll have to begging to good club people when clubs have been ignored for the last ten years!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 06, 2007, 09:38:05 PM
Just as a matter of interest how much do clubs in Armagh pay to the County Board each year?
A clubman tells me that his club has to pay over £3,000 each year - surely this cannot be right.
What is this new Membership thing about - other than raise more money.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on December 10, 2007, 08:37:54 AM
Any word from within the new county panel as to how the new recruits are coming along?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on December 10, 2007, 02:56:16 PM
http://www.ofonebelief.org/

Get registered boys its our chance to show the prima donnas what we think and to stop the central council going over our heads
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 10, 2007, 03:42:43 PM
Pint i think you have hit the nail on the head there, when there are a few bad years for the county you will see the county boards coming to the club gaels because there is one sure thing about the club folk they can always be relied upon through thick and thin. I also have experienced an incident similar to i'll decide where a guy knew all about the county but hadn't got a clue about a club team. Yet he was the first to be in line for tickets to the games. But what annoys me even more is the person whom up until 1999 you had never seen in your club even have now became a central figure in the running of the clubs. Now don't get me wrong i am always welcoming of new members. But i find it strange that this sudden influx of new faces have no connection to certain clubs but yet can run around slabbering about how their club have done this and that. They also express a hatred towards other clubs when really they know nothing about it, after all they couldn't they have only been around since 1999. I call them the band wagon brigade. They are even worse when they have drink in them. But the question that always stumps them is "How exactly are you connected to the club" ? The only answer you get is my son plays for the u-12's which the dad just happens to manage  ;) or else there is silence. I feel myself going off on one so i'll leave it there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 10, 2007, 04:57:00 PM
Winsam you are correct but i sense a lot frustration and anger in your we bones. Could you and Pints be connected some how ;) :D :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 10, 2007, 07:30:17 PM
correct decider that is the stage these GPA whores have got me to.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 10, 2007, 07:31:49 PM
I am all for moving forward but with all these rule changes and ammendments that are being introduced they are slowly but surely chipping away at our association. The fact that we actually own the thing and have had no say in this farce is a complete joke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 10, 2007, 10:02:35 PM
I hear that the Armagh Year Book is being launched in the Armagh City Hotel on Friday night next.
Anyone know what time and who is doing the launch.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on December 11, 2007, 09:57:16 AM
was the Cruppen managemet retained from last season?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on December 11, 2007, 10:00:26 AM
i heard paul carroll + jim loughran were wanted for the carrickcrupen job
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on December 12, 2007, 10:41:36 AM
altovito don't know where you get your information from????

brendan loughran and art ruddy have been retained by carrickcruppen as senior team managers for 2008
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 12, 2007, 10:43:41 AM
Bumpy has been given the clans job for another year as well :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on December 12, 2007, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: illdecide on December 12, 2007, 10:43:41 AM
Bumpy has been given the clans job for another year as well :-\ :-\

You dont sound too convinced!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on December 12, 2007, 11:25:42 AM
Thats bound to be good news for you lot illdecide - I take it he will be player/manager
I dont think Clans can do without him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 12, 2007, 11:33:18 AM
Quote from: Kentucky Blue on December 12, 2007, 11:19:40 AM
Quote from: illdecide on December 12, 2007, 10:43:41 AM
Bumpy has been given the clans job for another year as well :-\ :-\

You dont sound too convinced!  :D

Well i don't have a problem with him personally but a lot of the young fellas in the club are not happy about it. He is very strict and what him and Marsden brings with them (experience) to the club is priceless. but you know what the young ones are like now a days they don't like to be told what to do and they don't like discipline either. I know as i have dealt a lot with these guys over the last few years and believe me they are a handfull.

The problem with the Clans is they have no-one on the line to make decisions, when Bumpy and the Mars bar are playing they can't see the bigger picture as you have to be focused on you own game. I heard a month or 2 ago that Paul Kelly was coming in to help but i heard last week that's not the case so it will be interesting to see who they can get for the line, and knowing Bumpy as long as i have he usually doesn't do things in half measures so he should come up with someone good. (i hope)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 12, 2007, 11:38:06 AM
Player manager never worked for Ballyhegan over the last couple of years.

Definately need someone on the line!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on December 12, 2007, 11:49:46 AM
player manager never worked for ballyhegan you say.for f**k sak christ himself could not work for ballyhegn ovr the last number of years.they are exactly were they belong now anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 12, 2007, 11:53:31 AM
Quote from: altovito on December 12, 2007, 11:49:46 AM
player manager never worked for ballyhegan you say.for f**k sak christ himself could not work for ballyhegn ovr the last number of years.they are exactly were they belong now anyway

Ah right, I got that wrong then!!!  ???

Our last manager is a great player & a great trainer, & may be a great manager of the future, but it's hard to do both!

2 County Seniors (Possibly another panelist this year) & 2 county U21s - with a possibility of a few county minors this year also!!

All is not lost!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on December 12, 2007, 12:10:14 PM
Why all the doom and gloom fellas.
Armagh have a panel of good players who will keep us up there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 12, 2007, 12:20:46 PM
Quote from: altovito on December 12, 2007, 11:49:46 AM
player manager never worked for ballyhegan you say.for f**k sak christ himself could not work for ballyhegn ovr the last number of years.they are exactly were they belong now anyway

thats a bit un-called for altovito. Jasus it's the season of good will!! Maybe Ballyhegan beat you's recently and your angry about it ;) :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 12, 2007, 12:45:38 PM
Quote from: crossfire on December 12, 2007, 12:10:14 PM
Why all the doom and gloom fellas.
Armagh have a panel of good players who will keep us up there.

I disagree.

I've asked you two questions now, one on this thread and one on another when you were making allegations you can't back up.
Why haven't you answered?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on December 12, 2007, 12:54:12 PM
nt at all idecide.we have defeated ballyhegn in the last year or 2.but they are the type of team that think they should be in a beter division.div 3 suits them down to the ground.a few good players but the rest are pasengers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 12, 2007, 12:59:52 PM
Quote from: altovito on December 12, 2007, 12:54:12 PM
nt at all idecide.we have defeated ballyhegn in the last year or 2.but they are the type of team that think they should be in a beter division.div 3 suits them down to the ground.a few good players but the rest are pasengers

What is your club if you don't mind me asking.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Broken_Cross on December 12, 2007, 02:00:38 PM
Quote from: altovito on December 12, 2007, 12:54:12 PM
nt at all idecide.we have defeated ballyhegn in the last year or 2.but they are the type of team that think they should be in a beter division.div 3 suits them down to the ground.a few good players but the rest are pasengers

I hope that statement is only directed to Ballyhegan and not to all Div.3!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 12, 2007, 04:51:45 PM
Quote from: altovito on December 12, 2007, 12:54:12 PM
nt at all idecide.we have defeated ballyhegn in the last year or 2.but they are the type of team that think they should be in a beter division.div 3 suits them down to the ground.a few good players but the rest are pasengers

That statement could come back to bite you in the arse in the next year or 2. As much as i hafta agree that Ballyhegan have some very good players with a too many average players but it only takes a few good minors or U21's to come in the senior team and change the whole team. so next year or the year after they could be back into Div 2 as they def have some potential.

They also have a fairly good reserve/B team as shown from last year's tables and championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on December 12, 2007, 05:02:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on December 12, 2007, 04:51:45 PM
so next year or the year after they could be back into Div 2 as they def have some potential.

holy shit i think u av been drinkin too much bucky.way way out of their depth if they were in div 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 12, 2007, 05:19:19 PM
Quote from: altovito on December 12, 2007, 05:02:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on December 12, 2007, 04:51:45 PM
so next year or the year after they could be back into Div 2 as they def have some potential.

holy shit i think u av been drinkin too much bucky.way way out of their depth if they were in div 2

Well you tell me what club you represent and i'll look out for future results ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 12, 2007, 05:42:13 PM
I think anyone that comes on here slagging off other clubs, or even commenting on other clubs, when they won't name their own should be ignored. 


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 13, 2007, 11:17:51 AM
Do any of the rest of you lads have much problems with the young ones in your club. I'm talking about 18 -20 year olds with real chips on their shoulders and they think they know every thing and they are never wrong. There are some good footballers there but they are being influenced by their mates to stay away from our senior team because maybe someone got a bollocking from Bumpy one time and couldn't accept the criticism...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on December 13, 2007, 11:50:15 AM
i find that in our club there is unfortunately not that many 18-20 year olds to have this problem with! they unfortunately seem to drift away and do other things!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 13, 2007, 12:31:21 PM
QuoteI'm talking about 18 -20 year olds with real chips on their shoulders and they think they know every thing and they are never wrong. There are some good footballers there but they are being influenced by their mates to stay away from our senior team because maybe someone got a bollocking from Bumpy one time and couldn't accept the criticism...

Sounds like a lack of man management illdecide. 
an 18-20 year old, trying to break on to a senior team, shouldn't really be getting bollockings. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on December 13, 2007, 12:58:41 PM
POG without starting an arguement thats a load of sh1te!!!
If they act the lout and think they are bigger than they really are it should be nipped in the bud straight away...
The manager/coach has the final say, he sets out his stall at the start of the year and if they dont like it my personal opinion is tell them to f**k off!! All it takes is one to upset the camp then others think they can get away with what they like, and if they get away with it once the problem only gets worse!!!
Thats just my personal opinion mind you...  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 13, 2007, 02:09:59 PM
Quote from: Candyman on December 13, 2007, 12:58:41 PM
POG without starting an arguement thats a load of sh1te!!!
If they act the lout and think they are bigger than they really are it should be nipped in the bud straight away...
The manager/coach has the final say, he sets out his stall at the start of the year and if they dont like it my personal opinion is tell them to f**k off!! All it takes is one to upset the camp then others think they can get away with what they like, and if they get away with it once the problem only gets worse!!!
Thats just my personal opinion mind you...  ;)

Correct Candyman ;)

Thats what them lads were doing "f**king up drills" when it was down to lack of concentration and not skill. Being late for training and matches and turning up on match day still half cut from the night b4. all this is nothing to do with man management it's just no respect for the rest of their team mates and no pride in the jersey the put on their backs.

and in my opinion when people f**k about like this they should be get bollockings and if it was a regular occurrence then tell them their services are no longer required. When they get older and a bit more mature they will regret their school boy antics
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 13, 2007, 03:02:00 PM
Illdecide, for me the Senior players should be slapping them on the wrists. Fall outs with management is a recipe for disaster.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on December 13, 2007, 03:04:27 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 13, 2007, 03:02:00 PM
Illdecide, for me the Senior players should be slapping them on the wrists. Fall outs with management is a recipe for disaster.

A slap on the ear or a kick up the hole is more like it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 13, 2007, 03:49:17 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on December 13, 2007, 03:04:27 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 13, 2007, 03:02:00 PM
Illdecide, for me the Senior players should be slapping them on the wrists. Fall outs with management is a recipe for disaster.

A slap on the ear or a kick up the hole is more like it!

In cases that has happened. But these lads will not accept critiscim from anyone, i personally have told them at times they deserved their bollocking as you should not have been f**king about and all i got was "I don't care i'm not here to take this shite of anyone" and "He's a Hitler". The favourite ones is i'll not be back next year if he's still here.

We are talking about 2 guys running your team with All-Ireland medals and an All Star and prob 2 of the best players the club has ever had
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 13, 2007, 03:54:56 PM
Well then I think it is safe to say that you should not hold your breath on these players following in their footsteps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 13, 2007, 05:51:51 PM
Quote from: Candyman on December 13, 2007, 12:58:41 PM
POG without starting an arguement thats a load of sh1te!!!
If they act the lout and think they are bigger than they really are it should be nipped in the bud straight away...
The manager/coach has the final say, he sets out his stall at the start of the year and if they dont like it my personal opinion is tell them to f**k off!! All it takes is one to upset the camp then others think they can get away with what they like, and if they get away with it once the problem only gets worse!!!
Thats just my personal opinion mind you...  ;)

Quote
Thats what them lads were doing "f**king up drills" when it was down to lack of concentration and not skill. Being late for training and matches and turning up on match day still half cut from the night b4. all this is nothing to do with man management it's just no respect for the rest of their team mates and no pride in the jersey the put on their backs.

It depends on what the bollocking is for.  If anyone is constantly turning up late to training or out drinking the night before a game I wouldn't bother with them at all never mind giving them a bollocking because they're clearly not interested. 
However if you've a young lad giving it his all than a bollocking is not the way to go. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on December 13, 2007, 06:56:46 PM
Hi pints i see your club has just elected a member of the gay community onto your committee. fair play to youse
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 13, 2007, 07:24:12 PM
have we?
great, good for them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on December 13, 2007, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: asitis on December 13, 2007, 06:56:46 PM
Hi pints i see your club has just elected a member of the gay community onto your committee. fair play to youse

If you're gay do you have to live in a community on the side of a mountain or somewhere? that's a bit harsh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on December 13, 2007, 08:34:46 PM
on the other side of the mountain? wish the GPA would go somewhere like that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 13, 2007, 08:59:40 PM
Quote from: DMarsden on December 13, 2007, 08:32:49 PM
Quote from: asitis on December 13, 2007, 06:56:46 PM
Hi pints i see your club has just elected a member of the gay community onto your committee. fair play to youse

If you're gay do you have to live in a community on the side of a mountain or somewhere? that's a bit harsh?

Huh?
I suppose that's meant to be an insult?  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 13, 2007, 09:02:20 PM
LURGAN THE VENUE FOR ARMAGH'S HOME McKENNA CUP GAMES

Armagh's two home games in the Dr McKenna Cup will take place at Davitt Park Lurgan.
Their opening game against Derry which takes place on Sunday 6th January and their game against St Mary's on the 13th January both take place at the Lurgan venue.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DMarsden on December 13, 2007, 09:38:22 PM

twas a play on words. some people call them jokes. a new concept to you no doubt.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: busted sump on December 13, 2007, 10:34:17 PM
Anyone know of any managerial changes throughout the county? More and more teams paying outside men now to do it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 14, 2007, 09:15:57 AM
2 McKenna cup matches in Davitt Park :o :o. you's south Armagh men will not like that ;) :D

Sure you's could always get the train down from Newry...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on December 14, 2007, 10:11:27 AM
is there any chance of a national league game coming to Davitt park or is that pushing the boat out a bit too much?

still, happy to have a couple of  games on our doorstep...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on December 14, 2007, 10:26:32 AM
Maybe if you's invested in a scoreboard, a stand of some sort decent ball stoppers, plus few other things yes it would be good for a National League game. Though dont expect county board to invest in such things so no, McKenna cup games will be highlight of the year for you's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 14, 2007, 10:43:04 AM
Quote from: holylandsniper on December 14, 2007, 10:26:32 AM
Maybe if you's invested in a scoreboard, a stand of some sort decent ball stoppers, plus few other things yes it would be good for a National League game. Though dont expect county board to invest in such things so no, McKenna cup games will be highlight of the year for you's

Score board? well if thats what floats your boat. The new catch nets in Davitt Park are only 2 or 3 year old and are the same as any other ground as the same company supply's them so wind your neck in. As for the stand why and how can we build a stand in davitt Park when we don't own the ground? The field is owned by the county board therefore it is their responsibility. However we are in the process of negoitations with the county board on trying to buy the ground or at least a long term lease of some sort so we can develop Davitt Park.

And just for you we will put in a 20,000 all seater ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on December 14, 2007, 10:47:49 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 14, 2007, 10:11:27 AM
is there any chance of a national league game coming to Davitt park or is that pushing the boat out a bit too much?

Steady on lads
Couple of Mc Kenna Cup games & now you want the National League as well
You will be looking the C'ship games next - typical f**king Clans - give them an inch and they will take a mile
In fact I think I have heard a few referee's utter that line ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 14, 2007, 11:26:55 AM
Your good fullback, no your really good ;)

I'm not falling into that trap ;D Jasus the old ref issues are gone for a while, can't wait till the season starts so we can go "that fecker robbed us yesterday, everyone hates the clans ;) :D"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on December 14, 2007, 11:34:00 AM
fcuk it, sure we'll take a championship game if its going spare  ;) ;D
Title: Squad For Mc Kenna Cup
Post by: full back on December 14, 2007, 01:12:00 PM
Armagh Harps: Gareth Swift
Ballyboden: Enda McNulty
Ballyhegan: Paul McGrane, Paddy McKeever
Ballymacnab: Brian McCone
Carrickcruppen: Martin Ferris
Clan na Gael: Ronan Austin
Clonmore: Brendan Donaghy
Dromintee: Martin O'Rourke, Barry Shannon
Killeavey: Stevie McDonnell, Gary Reel
Lissummon: Paudie Rodgers
Maghery: Stefan Forker
Mullaghbawn: Mark Quinn, Gerard McCreesh
Pearse Og: Ronan Clarke, Conor Clarke, Gregory Loughran, Paul Duffy, Andy Mallon, Gerard McCoy, JP Donnelly, Ciaran McKinney.
St Michael's: Kevin O'Rourke
St Patrick's: Paudie McCreesh, Liam O'Hare
Sarsfields: Paul McCaughey
Tir na nÓg: Brian Mallon
Wolfe Tones: Finnian Moriarty



BTW, Heard Paul Mc Keown got the Ulster Award for November
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: busted sump on December 14, 2007, 01:29:30 PM
Heard today Vinny Loughran was leaving Port Mor to take charge of a team very close to them? Seems strange
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RONAN on December 14, 2007, 01:29:42 PM
Following a request by the family of the late Emon Coleman, a special day of celebration to mark the life of the man himself is currently been organised for Saturday 7th June 2008, the first anniverasry of his death. On the day there will be a game between Derrys 93 All Ireland winning team and an Irish select of past and present players who played for and against Eamon.

Later in the evening an Informal Dinner will take place in a specialised marquee on the premises of St Treas Ballymaguigan Co Derry, which of course was Eamons home club. Cost of this event is £1000 per table, but in the event that you may not wish to avail of a table a donation of any kind would be very much appreciated.

The charities being supported which were close to Eamon are: Marie Curie Cancer, GOAL, Adoption UK, SMA and Foyle Hospice.

To book a table or make a voluntary contribution you can contact myself on 07875 400 839 or email me on: ronan@moltools.co.uk, or contact Jim Crozier on 07841100141 or email: jimgcrozier@msn.com. Jims address is 246 Shore Road, Magherafelt, Co Derry, BT45 6LH.

Any contributions via cheque can be made out to "Eamon Coleman Memorial Fund"

Many thanks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on December 14, 2007, 02:54:33 PM
Quote from: busted sump on December 14, 2007, 01:29:30 PM
Heard today Vinny Loughran was leaving Port Mor to take charge of a team very close to them? Seems strange

Whos that? Collegeland
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on December 14, 2007, 03:49:48 PM
Has Peadar Toal of Armagh Harps been intentionally overlooked for the McKenna Cup squad.  Perhaps McDonnell saw enough of him while managing him at Harps to think him either not good enough or having insufficient committment.  Pity, I think he has exceptional natural ability.

Glad to see Kevin O'Rourke given a chance.  Seems to have a great attitude/work ethic.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on December 14, 2007, 04:06:27 PM
QuoteGlad to see Kevin O'Rourke given a chance.  Seems to have a great attitude/work ethic.

Yes possibly deserves a chance footballing wise but to say he has a great attitude/work ethic is a bit much, did he not take and throw his jersey off while huffing because he was taken off at either Minor or U21 level, and am i right in saying quickly put it back on when realised he might get another chance?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on December 14, 2007, 04:51:20 PM
as far as i am aware Peadar Toal recently broke his ankle playing soccer so id say when hes fit he'll be apart of the national league and championship squads BTW McDonnell will no from his time with the Harps  (theres a Harps man in the backroom team as well), that he is an exceptional talent and if given a chance will prove that, which i think he will get under McDonnell unlike the previous management
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 14, 2007, 05:11:37 PM
why wouldn't any club want as many county games as they could get???? There does need to be a bit of neck winding put in here lads. The talk of scoreboards, stands and the other shite. FFS it is a football game The pitch surface is very good and the concrete stand at the far side would be well safe and suffice to holda national league crowd.Permanent Scoreboards and other shite is only necessary for bigger games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on December 14, 2007, 05:22:44 PM
every ground should have at least the concrete stand that davitt park has plus a permanent score board, plus i wouldnt say the pitch surface was very good the last time i was at a match at davitt park!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on December 14, 2007, 07:42:13 PM
davitt park is not even the best ground in lurgan mckenna cup games shud be in clann eirann at least they kook after their ground
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on December 14, 2007, 07:52:29 PM
Kevin O'Rourke may well have taken off and thrown his jersey (was it at being subbed i.e. natural dissappointment/disgust at his own performance/two fingers to management?).  In any case it shows he has a bit of fire in his belly and his subsequent performances weren't lacking in this quarter.   To me he showed the right attitude ad work ethic during all the u-21 game last season.

Congratulations to Paul McKeown on his award, richly deserved.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on December 16, 2007, 01:24:28 PM
Can he not just put it behind him and move on? Why open an old can of worms again? Makes no sense to me.

Nugent defends McDonnell appointment
16 December 2007


Armagh secretary Patrick Og Nugent has launched a blistering attack on those who criticised the process which led to Peter McDonnell's appointment as senior football manager.

Nugent is furious with people making unsavoury, unfounded and personal comments about how McDonnell arrived in the position previously occupied by Joe Kernan, having seen off the challenge of Paul Grimley and Michael McConville.

"After the initial interviews, the committee met to select who they believed would be the best candidate for the job," he explains in his report to Monday night's county convention.

"Once this was completed, two meetings were held, one with the county officers which was followed immediately on the same night with the chairman and secretary of each club in the county.

"At the time of the announcement, some of the ludicrous reports and claims made concerning the selection process were, to say the least, unsavoury, unfounded, inaccurate and personal."
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on December 16, 2007, 06:44:08 PM
best form of defense is attack. he makes no mention of the abandoned vote i'am sure.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 17, 2007, 12:11:42 AM
Armaghtrue don't be silly I have played on both pitches and Davitt park is far superior. In terms of size, condition and for the spectator the ability to see the game. Oh and the key phrase was they look after THEIR pitch. We don't own Davitt and the county board don't seem to be willing to sell us it. Tell me this would you fork out loads of money on something you don't own ???? The county board should be putting the money into Davitt. If they want to own it then they should look after it. Otherwise sell it to the Clans and we will sort it ourselves.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on December 17, 2007, 09:09:01 AM
Maybe they've seen the state of your clubhouse and think better of selling you the pitch?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 17, 2007, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on December 17, 2007, 09:09:01 AM
Maybe they've seen the state of your clubhouse and think better of selling you the pitch?

Don't start a slagging match lads especially about stupid things like this as Winsam pointed out we don't own the clubhouse either and until the county board sign it over to us we can only spend minimal money on it like general maintenance (i agree it's not pretty to look at but we can't throw money at it for the county board some day to tell us to feck off).

As for you Aghdavoyle if you want me to start about what Dromintee had for many a year keep it up (I'd prefer not to go down that road though)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on December 17, 2007, 09:52:34 AM
Quote from: topgun on December 14, 2007, 04:51:20 PM
as far as i am aware Peadar Toal recently broke his ankle playing soccer so id say when hes fit he'll be apart of the national league and championship squads BTW McDonnell will no from his time with the Harps  (theres a Harps man in the backroom team as well), that he is an exceptional talent and if given a chance will prove that, which i think he will get under McDonnell unlike the previous management
P Toal broke his leg over a month ago and required surgery 2 weeks ago which included inserting screws in his leg so he'll be out for a right while!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 17, 2007, 11:20:53 AM
Quote from: Candyman on December 17, 2007, 09:52:34 AM
Quote from: topgun on December 14, 2007, 04:51:20 PM
as far as i am aware Peadar Toal recently broke his ankle playing soccer so id say when hes fit he'll be apart of the national league and championship squads BTW McDonnell will no from his time with the Harps  (theres a Harps man in the backroom team as well), that he is an exceptional talent and if given a chance will prove that, which i think he will get under McDonnell unlike the previous management
P Toal broke his leg over a month ago and required surgery 2 weeks ago which included inserting screws in his leg so he'll be out for a right while!!!!

He's just no luck
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 17, 2007, 11:49:02 AM
ARMAGH v DERRY GAME ON TG4

Armagh's opening Dr McKenna Cup with Derry which takes place at Davitt Park, Lurgan, on Sunday 6th January will be broadcast live on TG4 with coverage commencing at 1.45pm.

Taken from www.orchardcounty.com
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on December 17, 2007, 12:22:13 PM
Thats a good one from Paddy Og

Whose he trying to kid

Everybody knows the selection process was a farce
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 17, 2007, 01:23:56 PM
The Clans don't own their pitch? Did not know that. Why won't the County board sign it over?

Aghdavoyle, I am sure you were round when we didn't have the ground we have today so lets not salg other grounds off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 17, 2007, 02:14:21 PM
You see this guy aghdavoyle really gets on my goat. He is the type that actually gets a kick out of other peoples misfortunes. My club wouldn't be the richest in the country but what we do have is tradition and a winning one at that. You talking about the state of the clubhouse. Well i ask you this how did you get the money to do up your clubhouse? We raise funds each year with the help of a series of events. We are currently working on a 600,000 development process but these things take time. For some village idiot to sit on a high horse and make snide remarks about facilities when they don't even concern him is a complete joke.
Corn the county board won't sell us it because it was supposed to be looked after by a field committee. There is only one of this committee still alive today so the whole issue is a farse. We have a approached them time and time again and still they won't budge. But they won't put money into develop it.  The pitch is officially owned by the people of lurgan as the law states, but the issue is still wrangling on at the moment and there will eventually be lawyers involved in the process. To say it is complicated corn would be an understatement. But a simple solution would be to sign it over to us and let us get on with it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 17, 2007, 02:19:58 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 17, 2007, 01:23:56 PM
The Clans don't own their pitch? Did not know that. Why won't the County board sign it over?

Aghdavoyle, I am sure you were round when we didn't have the ground we have today so lets not salg other grounds off.

you tell us Corn? In fact the field committee (Armagh) actually sold a part of the ground a few months ago to a developer for £80,000 when in fact they actually promised the Clans that it was going to be signed over to us. Lets be honest about it Davitt will not be used at all with the exception of the odd meaningless game. Even club senior championship games are rarely played there as it's mostly South and Mid Armagh teams against each other so they are not going to play them in Lurgan.

If we had Davitt signed over and spent a few pound on it surly then it would appeal a bit more to Armagh, or why don't they sign some sort of Co-ownership and both parties pump money into it and then both benefit
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 17, 2007, 03:08:50 PM
Because that would take brains.

Win Dromintee raised money for their grounds through fundraising aswell. I believe we would be second to none on regrading fundraising and the effort invovled as I am sure you will appreciate as the Clans are at it too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 17, 2007, 06:12:07 PM
Yeah totally corn and i think silverbridge would be well up there aswell they have done a great job. But it does annoy me when people are slabbering at the misfortune of others, especially when they are trying to make a go of it. We have enough people trying to put our organisation down without ourselves doing it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 17, 2007, 07:13:26 PM
It's lazy clubs that annoy me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 18, 2007, 01:00:35 PM
Talking about Davitt Park, i measured it this morning (to do with work) and from end line to end line it's 153.8 meters long. I got these dimensions of GAA web site and it states the sizes a pitch should be (see below) and Davitt is actually 8.8 meters to long. Davitt Park must be one of the biggest pitches in Ireland



Pitch dimensions
The pitch, or field of play, should be rectangular, between 130m and 145m in length and 80m and 90m in width. It can be reduced for younger players.
A series of lines are marked across the pitch at 13m, 20m and 45m from each end line. A further marking at 65m is made for hurling.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on December 18, 2007, 01:52:16 PM
Quote from: illdecide on December 18, 2007, 01:00:35 PM
Talking about Davitt Park, i measured it this morning (to do with work) and from end line to end line it's 153.8 meters long. I got these dimensions of GAA web site and it states the sizes a pitch should be (see below) and Davitt is actually 8.8 meters to long.
Are there rules against this?
You lot could be looking at Div. 4 next year if the CB hear that ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 18, 2007, 02:04:31 PM
Out of interest POG what are the Bridges dimension, I heard they were the exact same size as Croke Park?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 18, 2007, 02:05:17 PM
Quote from: full back on December 18, 2007, 01:52:16 PM
Quote from: illdecide on December 18, 2007, 01:00:35 PM
Talking about Davitt Park, i measured it this morning (to do with work) and from end line to end line it's 153.8 meters long. I got these dimensions of GAA web site and it states the sizes a pitch should be (see below) and Davitt is actually 8.8 meters to long.
Are there rules against this?
You lot could be looking at Div. 4 next year if the CB hear that ;)

r u forgetting something it's their pitch ;) :D :D

Armagh could get relegated to div 4 for this ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 18, 2007, 07:06:43 PM
Any Discussion Board contributor at the Armagh Convention last night in the City Hotel?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 18, 2007, 07:59:21 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 18, 2007, 02:04:31 PM
Out of interest POG what are the Bridges dimension, I heard they were the exact same size as Croke Park?

I don't know the dimensions but it's said to be the same size as Croke Park.
Title: ARMAGH COUNTY COMMITTEE OFFICERS – 2008
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 19, 2007, 11:29:10 AM
ARMAGH COUNTY COMMITTEE OFFICERS – 2008

At the Armagh County Convention on Monday night the following were elected to form the County Committee for 2008:-

Chairman: Kevin Brady
Vice-Chairman: Oliver Hearty
Secretary: Patrick Óg Nugent
Asst. Secretary: Michael McGivern
Treasurer: Joe Canning
Asst. Treasurer: Peadar Murray
Development Officer: Brendan Kirk
Games & Coaching Officer: Seamus King
Irish Officer: Jarlath Burns
P.R.O.: Joe Jordan
Youth Officer: Paul Duggan
Ulster Council Representatives: Paddy Óg Nugent & John Moley
Central Council Representative: Gene Duffy

From www.orchardcounty.com


Title: Re: ARMAGH COUNTY COMMITTEE OFFICERS – 2008
Post by: Onion Bag on December 19, 2007, 12:46:11 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on December 19, 2007, 11:29:10 AM
ARMAGH COUNTY COMMITTEE OFFICERS – 2008

At the Armagh County Convention on Monday night the following were elected to form the County Committee for 2008:-

Chairman: Kevin Brady
Vice-Chairman: Oliver Hearty
Secretary: Patrick Óg Nugent
Asst. Secretary: Michael McGivern
Treasurer: Joe Canning
Asst. Treasurer: Peadar Murray
Development Officer: Brendan Kirk
Games & Coaching Officer: Seamus King
Irish Officer: Jarlath Burns
P.R.O.: Joe Jordan
Youth Officer: Paul Duggan
Ulster Council Representatives: Paddy Óg Nugent & John Moley
Central Council Representative: Gene Duffy

From www.orchardcounty.com




What a shower, That Paddy Og really gets my goat
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 19, 2007, 02:13:55 PM
I wouldn't be his biggest fan either, how does the we bollox keep in that job
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on December 19, 2007, 05:44:58 PM
Quote from: illdecide on December 19, 2007, 02:13:55 PM
I wouldn't be his biggest fan either, how does the we bollox keep in that job

does he get paid?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 19, 2007, 05:46:27 PM
From what I hear he does get paid in what is a permanent job.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on December 19, 2007, 06:32:16 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on December 19, 2007, 05:46:27 PM
From what I hear he does get paid in what is a permanent job.


del correcto, hence the 5 year rule being unapplicable to him,
pity,
if the co. board where to pay somebody else other than this muppet to do the job right it would be a good move, rather than paddy and his part time, still paid, administrative ass(istant) getting paid to do very little imo.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 20, 2007, 08:27:47 AM
They should be 2 different jobs.

Paddy has been the County Secretary for a few years now, but his new paid job is the "County Admin Officer" or something like that.  The paid job was advertised by the Ulster Council in the Bele Tele at the time, hence why it should be a different role to that of County Secretary.

I'm sure that the Ulster Council wouldn't have been allowed to recruit a County Admin Officer and instruct the County Board that they must also have this person as the Secretary, after all the Secretary is chosen by the clubs at the AGM, as in Monday night's meeting - not by the Ulster Council in May.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on December 20, 2007, 09:22:35 AM
that 5 yr rule is mad. whaty were they thinking. loads of very good people get kicked out and its hard to find any one to take the place. I dont understand it. most jobsin clubs dont have a q to do them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 20, 2007, 11:07:06 AM
Quote from: Armagh4SamAgain on December 20, 2007, 09:22:35 AM
that 5 yr rule is mad. whaty were they thinking. loads of very good people get kicked out and its hard to find any one to take the place. I dont understand it. most jobsin clubs dont have a q to do them.
Seems quite simple to circumvent, note Peadar MCElvanna & Joe Canning swapping Treasurer and Assist Treasurer posts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 21, 2007, 12:40:49 PM
Well lads i'll not be back on the board till Wed 2nd Jan so merry christmas and a happy new year to all you Gaels :-* :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on December 23, 2007, 06:25:52 PM
Quoteso merry christmas and a happy new year to all you Gaels

And happy Christmas to all the Firbolgs too, especially those living near the Blackwater.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on December 24, 2007, 05:45:57 PM
thank god for Joe Jordan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on December 26, 2007, 04:25:31 PM
why, asitis?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on December 26, 2007, 06:24:13 PM
Quote from: asitis on December 24, 2007, 05:45:57 PM
thank god for Joe Jordan.

Joe Jordan is a good man, he put his heart and soul into armagh football and is a great servant to his club. I knew joe for about tens years and he is a gentleman.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 26, 2007, 06:26:59 PM
Asitis comment in relation to Jordan has nothing to do with Jordan.

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on December 26, 2007, 07:21:17 PM
...would it have more to do with the man he replaced?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 26, 2007, 07:23:49 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Out in Front on December 27, 2007, 12:43:34 AM
Folks, I know this is a bit of blatant advertising but I'm organising this GAA Q & A Night to raise monies for the Southern Area Hospice Services which cover much of Down, Armagh and a fair bit of Tyrone too. 
It's on the first Wednesday after the start of the NFL and since I've managed to get it sponsored, I'm pushing it as much as I can.
I'll add more details as others guests are confirmed but if you want more details, feel free to PM me.

Thanks
PW


Gaelic Life GAA Q & A NIGHT
In association with the Newry Reporter
In aid of the 
SOUTHERN AREA HOSPICE SERVICES

In the CANAL COURT HOTEL, NEWRY
On WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 6, 2008
@ 7.45pm - TICKETS £10

MC for the evening, the BBC's MARK SIDEBOTTOM

Guests include
JARLATH BURNS & JOE KERNAN
Plus OTHERS TBC

Tickets (made payable to Southern Area Hospice Services)
can be purchased from the following:
Darren / Mairead, Gaelic Life, 14 John Street, Omagh, BT78 1DW. Tel: 028 8225 5959
Paul Welsh, Newry Reporter, 4 Margaret Street, Newry, BT35 1DF. Tel: 028 3026 7633
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on December 28, 2007, 05:34:56 PM
is it that time of the month again pints
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 28, 2007, 09:10:39 PM
Quote from: asitis on December 28, 2007, 05:34:56 PM
is it that time of the month again pints

The time of the month when you appear to talk nonsense? Must be.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on December 29, 2007, 09:39:26 AM
I got a free letter from Gealic Life the newspapers with a thing giving all the Mckenna cup matches an all. And a we card for the championship and a free pen. It was v nice of them. Did any body else get 1?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 31, 2007, 06:50:12 PM
Yes, Armagh4SamAgain,
I got the card plus a free pen and two complimentary tickets for each of Armagh's two home games against Derry and St Mary's in the McKenna Cup.
An excellent promotion by Gaelic Life.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 01, 2008, 11:46:02 PM
Got the pen and a promotional thing but was rippen that they have the Derry game down for Oliver Plunkett park and not the beloved Davitt.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on January 02, 2008, 12:43:36 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 01, 2008, 11:46:02 PM
Got the pen and a promotional thing but was rippen that they have the Derry game down for Oliver Plunkett park and not the beloved Davitt.

I bet ollie plunkett would have lost the head over that decision too. :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 02, 2008, 10:29:26 AM
It's good to be back after the holidays not >:(

Anyway what's our chances on Sunday against Derry and what sort of team should we have out, are there any injury's or key player unavailable for sunday's game? I know it's only the "McKenna Cup" but i'm looking forward to see how we will fair this year under the new manager. Have any of you lads any inside info you need to share with us ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 02, 2008, 01:40:24 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 02, 2008, 10:29:26 AM
It's good to be back after the holidays not >:(

Anyway what's our chances on Sunday against Derry and what sort of team should we have out, are there any injury's or key player unavailable for sunday's game? I know it's only the "McKenna Cup" but i'm looking forward to see how we will fair this year under the new manager. Have any of you lads any inside info you need to share with us ;)

It would be interesting, it's a pity my principles won't allow me to go.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 02, 2008, 03:20:20 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 02, 2008, 01:40:24 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 02, 2008, 10:29:26 AM
It's good to be back after the holidays not >:(

Anyway what's our chances on Sunday against Derry and what sort of team should we have out, are there any injury's or key player unavailable for sunday's game? I know it's only the "McKenna Cup" but i'm looking forward to see how we will fair this year under the new manager. Have any of you lads any inside info you need to share with us ;)

It would be interesting, it's a pity my principles won't allow me to go.

why whats up with ya Pints
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 02, 2008, 04:09:41 PM
I hear Pints' two Cullyhanna "friends", Mackin and McKeever are unavailable through injury. A reliable source told me that Ronan Clarke has been tried out in midfield in a couple of unofficial warm-up matches, interesting to see whether McDonnell will persist with this on Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 02, 2008, 04:54:57 PM
I actually forgot to mention to pints that i was having a drink with C McKeever on boxing day and i was telling him about pints and the Silverbridge saga. He's not to fussed on the Bridge either, of course i was winding him up a bit ;) :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 02, 2008, 05:58:54 PM
Why anyone would want to drink with that kn**ker is beyond me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on January 02, 2008, 06:13:29 PM
Aiden O'Rourke to make a surprise appearance at full-back on Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 02, 2008, 06:32:33 PM
AOR enough said, i think we have had the debate about him. Unless Derry bring back big geoffrey mc Conigle we are fucked.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on January 02, 2008, 06:40:54 PM
AOR wasn't named as being part of the panel, would be nice to see him back though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on January 02, 2008, 07:52:35 PM
FOR CHRIST SAKE LETS PLAY BENNY O'ROURKE AS WELL
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on January 02, 2008, 10:17:18 PM
Quote from: asitis on January 02, 2008, 07:52:35 PM
FOR CHRIST SAKE LETS PLAY BENNY O'ROURKE AS WELL
Oh shhh, the OR's are good players otherwise none of them would ever have got putting on a county jersey
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 03, 2008, 08:52:51 AM
Quote from: ardmhachaabu on January 02, 2008, 10:17:18 PM
Quote from: asitis on January 02, 2008, 07:52:35 PM
FOR CHRIST SAKE LETS PLAY BENNY O'ROURKE AS WELL
Oh shhh, the OR's are good players otherwise none of them would ever have got putting on a county jersey

Agreed they are good players, but how many years is it from Aidan played intercounty football?? Surley this man McDonnell is having a laugh.

As for that kn**ker McKeever he's not a bad lad when you get to know him and in fairness all he called you's was W****rs and left it at that....He didn't go on about it for 2 minutes never mind 2 years ;) :D (only messin Pints)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimpleSimon on January 03, 2008, 08:53:27 AM
According to the Irish news, Aidan has been drafted back into the panel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 03, 2008, 10:16:39 AM
Surprised to see A O'Rourke back in the panel but McDonnell did say that anyone who was playing to a high standard in club football would be given a chance. Jury's out though, a very good footballer, would he still have the pace for the inter-county football? He never was the quickest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 03, 2008, 10:50:29 AM

Interesting that Aidan is back on the panel. have to say i'm surprised from his and McDonnell's point of view. That said, if you're picking your best players from club football in armagh, he's still in the top 7 or 8 there. county football is a completely diffrent ball game though. McDonnell is surprising a lot of people from what i hear.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on January 03, 2008, 11:13:59 AM
McDonnell deserves to be given a chance, if his ideas are wrong, we will soon know
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 03, 2008, 11:22:39 AM
The only role I can genuinely envisage for AOR is a sweeper/free role type job, as I dont think he has the legs for any marking assignments anymore.  Can we afford to do that?(leaving a an opponent free elsewhere) that is the big Q.  Playing a sweeper suggests negativity to me, so I hope not.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on January 03, 2008, 01:18:20 PM
Quote from: Uladh on January 03, 2008, 10:50:29 AM

Interesting that Aidan is back on the panel. have to say i'm surprised from his and McDonnell's point of view. That said, if you're picking your best players from club football in armagh, he's still in the top 7 or 8 there. county football is a completely diffrent ball game though. McDonnell is surprising a lot of people from what i hear.

In what way Uladh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on January 03, 2008, 03:56:43 PM
From today's Irish News

Former All-Ireland winner Aidan O'Rourke is set to make I a surprise return to the Armagh panel for the forthcoming McKenna Cup campaign. O'Rourke, who also won an Allstar in 2002, will meet up with the squad tonight and will provide Peter McDonnell with some much-needed experience following the retirements of Kieran McGeeney and Diarmaid Mardsen.

The Dromintee man is currently managing Queen's University in the same competition but is expected to be in both camps as the Queen's and Armagh fixtures do not clash. O'Rourke's last appearance for Armagh was as a late substitute in the 2006 Ulster SFC Final victory over Donegal.

O'Rourke has always stated that he was available for selection for Armagh but was surprisingly overlooked for the 2007 campaign. Orchard county boss McDonnell has also revealed that two of his key forwards are close to making a return to action after lengthy absences due to cruciate ligament injuries.

Ronan Clarke has not featured since starting against Kerry in the 2006 All-Ireland quarter-final defeat, while Brian Mallon has not played since coming off the bench in that same game. "Ronan Clarke and Brian Mallon both had similar injuries and the main focus is that they both have a good pre-season before football starts seriously," said McDonnell.

McDonnell is hopeful that both attackers may figure in the forth-coming McKenna Cup campaign which begins with a home game against Derry this Sunday in Lurgan. "If they get the OK, I've no problem playing them, but it's only when the doctor and the senior physios give me that green light that I'll move on it. I'd say they are very close now and hopefully will play a part in the McKenna Cup."


With Clarkie and Mallon back playing, Armagh can't be written off  ;D

I think it's better that the rest of the country thinks they are past it though.  Armagh do better when they are underdogs it seems to me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on January 03, 2008, 04:06:35 PM
Any thoughts on a team for sunday not many options. dont no wat the team will be but heres one,



                                                                     
                                                                    1, Ciaran McKinney
                                        2, Finnian Moriarty   3, Brendan Donaghy  4, Enda McNulty
                                                                   
                                        5, Paul Duffy          6, Andy Mallon           7, Barry Shannon

                                                                    8, Paul McGrane
                                                                    9, Ronan Austin

                                       10, Paddy McKeever 11, Liam O'Hare         12, Gregory Loughran

                                       13, Stefan Forker    14, Stevie McDonnell   15, Kevin O'Rourke

BTW Ronan Clarke was in hospital with a concussion on tues night, plus dont  think AOR will start.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on January 03, 2008, 04:49:05 PM
M Donnell has come up with a very interesting selection - it looks quite strong on paper.

Is the recall of Aidan O'Rourke not a turn up for the books ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 04, 2008, 11:57:05 AM
   
Quote1, Ciaran McKinney
                                         2, Finnian Moriarty   3, Brendan Donaghy  4, Enda McNulty
                                                                     
                                         5, Paul Duffy          6, Andy Mallon            7, Barry Shannon

                                                                     8, Paul McGrane
                                                                     9, Ronan Austin

                                        10, Paddy McKeever, 11 Liam O'Hare         12, Gregory Loughran

                                        13, Stefan Forker    14, Stevie McDonnell   15, Kevin O'Rourke

Is it not best for this competition to rest the above players in bold as they have noting to prove and will be needed later in the year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 04, 2008, 12:21:17 PM

With the exception of paddy mckeever, thats very true sniper
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 04, 2008, 12:34:54 PM
Lads maybe i'm a bit slow but is that team been selected or was that just the team that topgun thought would be playing.

I would agree with Uladh, McKeever needs a toe up the hole or should i say take the finger out first and rest the rest of them lads who we know will do the business for us in spring and summer should have the tracksuit on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on January 04, 2008, 01:04:12 PM
McGrane will be starting as far as I know because Mackin and Loughran are out due to injury and Vernon, Lavery, Courtney and O'Neill are committed to their respective university sides.  On top of that, obviously the Cross men are ruled out...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 04, 2008, 01:34:49 PM
Yes thats just topguns team
Aye possibly McKeever, but he hasnt much to prove to me, as i no he isnt worth his place wereas new comers have to prove they worth there place or not. Surely if we're that stuck for players and need to include McGrane why not go back and search for few other club players for McKenna cup and give them a try, noting to loose by that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on January 04, 2008, 03:30:34 PM
For me Ronan Austin would need to have improved immeasurably to be considered a championship panelist. thought several Clans players were better performers last year.  Perhaps Clans men can comment?

Liam O'Hare.  Another who was tried and may be found wanting at the highest level.  Hope to be proved wrong. I've nothing but admiration for guys who leave therir houses on evenings like this to bust their humps for the likes of me to pass comment on them.  Good luck to every squad menber.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 04, 2008, 03:55:56 PM
Quote from: Imposerous on January 04, 2008, 03:30:34 PM
For me Ronan Austin would need to have improved immeasurably to be considered a championship panelist. thought several Clans players were better performers last year.  Perhaps Clans men can comment?

Liam O'Hare.  Another who was tried and may be found wanting at the highest level.  Hope to be proved wrong. I've nothing but admiration for guys who leave therir houses on evenings like this to bust their humps for the likes of me to pass comment on them.  Good luck to every squad menber.

To be honest and i'm a team mate of R Austin i don't think he would/will cut it and i hope i'm wrong because he's a good lad and i'm telling you he has some ability and his fitness levels and speed will not be bettered by many but he like the rest of the younger guys on the panel seem to like and gel well with McDonnell so who knows and i have heard he has being doing extremley well in training.

As for Liam etc i have played againt him several times and man marked him (thats why he got called into the county panel :D) and he is a very good player but i think some of these guys will only be good club players and not top intercounty players, they just seem to lack that we bit of pace and quality to get them out of trouble and away from defenders
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on January 04, 2008, 04:24:38 PM
Thanks, Illdecide.

Austin is a big rangy player who may just mature very nicely with age.  He has the height and speed to be versatile in a number of positions- hopefully he'll prove an asset.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 05, 2008, 03:35:38 PM
The article in the Irish News states that Stevie McDonnell will not be playing. Stevie also illuded to the fact that he has no idea what tactics will be for the Derry match. I hope that article was written a good while ago, cause I hope the boss would have some sort of game plan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 06, 2008, 01:07:25 PM
Quote from: topgun on January 03, 2008, 04:06:35 PM
Any thoughts on a team for sunday not many options. dont no wat the team will be but heres one,



                                                                     
                                                                    1, Ciaran McKinney
                                        2, Finnian Moriarty   3, Brendan Donaghy  4, Enda McNulty
                                                                   
                                        5, Paul Duffy          6, Andy Mallon           7, Barry Shannon

                                                                    8, Paul McGrane
                                                                    9, Ronan Austin

                                       10, Paddy McKeever 11, Liam O'Hare         12, Gregory Loughran

                                       13, Stefan Forker    14, Stevie McDonnell   15, Kevin O'Rourke

BTW Ronan Clarke was in hospital with a concussion on tues night, plus dont  think AOR will start.

Dont think mallon has the physical presence for centre half back. Seen moriarty getting roasted on a couple of occasions in the second division last year too. Dont think o'hare is a central player either, but he definately deserves a run in the team. We'll see who lines out later. Would be very suprised if the line up is as above!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 06, 2008, 01:20:04 PM
Quote
Dont think mallon has the physical presence for centre half back. Seen moriarty getting roasted on a couple of occasions in the second division last year too. Dont think o'hare is a central player either, but he definately deserves a run in the team. We'll see who lines out later. Would be very suprised if the line up is as above!

Agree on Moriarty, I think only for his Da's record he wouldn't be there.  Seen him in division 2 and he was very poor, you'd have a hard time picking him out as a county player.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 06, 2008, 03:20:26 PM
Well done Ciaran McKeever, on a whole 10 minutes before putting his knee in someone's chest.
What a kn**ker.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 06, 2008, 07:41:22 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 06, 2008, 03:20:26 PM
Well done Ciaran McKeever, on a whole 10 minutes before putting his knee in someone's chest.
What a kn**ker.




agree
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 06, 2008, 07:43:19 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 06, 2008, 01:20:04 PM
Quote
Dont think mallon has the physical presence for centre half back. Seen moriarty getting roasted on a couple of occasions in the second division last year too. Dont think o'hare is a central player either, but he definately deserves a run in the team. We'll see who lines out later. Would be very suprised if the line up is as above!

Agree on Moriarty, I think only for his Da's record he wouldn't be there.  Seen him in division 2 and he was very poor, you'd have a hard time picking him out as a county player.


poor county player seen alot better in division 1 and2 this year.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Out in Front on January 06, 2008, 07:50:33 PM
Joe Brolly will also be part of the panel for the Gaelic Life GAA Q & A Night in the Canal Court Hotel, Newry, on February 6.

So that's: Joe Kernan, Joe Brolly, Jarlath Burns and Sean Kelly (there may be one more) plus Mark Sidebottom as MC

Gaelic Life GAA Q & A NIGHT
In association with the Newry Reporter
In aid of the 
SOUTHERN AREA HOSPICE SERVICES

In the CANAL COURT HOTEL, NEWRY
On WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 6, 2008
@ 7.45pm - TICKETS £10

MC for the evening, the BBC's MARK SIDEBOTTOM

Taking your questions will be
JARLATH BURNS, JOE KERNAN, JOE BROLLY & SEAN KELLY
(with may be one more)


Tickets can be purchased in advance from the following:
Darren / Mairead, Gaelic Life, 14 John Street, Omagh, BT78 1DW. Tel: 028 8225 5959
Paul Welsh, Newry Reporter, 4 Margaret Street, Newry, BT35 1DF. Tel: 028 3026 7633
(please make cheque payable to Southern Area Hospice Services)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on January 06, 2008, 08:30:13 PM
I just hope the established boys ar eback on board soon because what we saw today was complete dung of the highest order.  They just stopped in the second half and succumbed to Derry without even a fight.  Kieran McKeever's contribution? Two solo runs where he handed the ball back to Derry and as Pints says, a knee in the chest to a young lad.  A total gypsy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 07, 2008, 01:06:33 AM
I heard on the grapevine clarke wAs indeed in hospital with concussion but it was nothing to do with football. I heard two brothers gave him a hiding when he wen to one of their aids, but i don't know howtruthful it is. The performance today was totally rubbish and i was looking at the bench and seeing climpsesof guys from Sarsfields and lesser teams and wondering how the fcuk my own club team don't get more call ups. On paper my own club would be in the top 5 or 6 in my eyes anyway and i know for a fact that we have lad that have far more footballing ability than some of those guys standing their today. I am sure all clubs have. I have played against decent players who have never got a chance to represent Armagh and this is totally wrong. The game now is getting that decent ball players and skillful payers are being overlooked to bring in ogres, who certainly would slog and run all night but if you opened the gate they would run out. The best footballer on show today at Davitt was Enda Flynn of Derry. A great skillfull players who ran rings around armagh. Though his acceptance speech for getting man of the man was absolutely hillarious, hillarious, hillarious but that's just great. Anyone who seen it will know what i mean. Oh and watch out for the halifax scammers :) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: screenmachine on January 07, 2008, 02:51:39 AM
twas a hilarious acceptance speech alright, "It was just great to be running around out there, just great!" I was in stitches for about half an hour afterwards!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 07, 2008, 08:58:57 AM
the bit of a stutter that he had also added to the comedy effect of his speech!!

As for armaghs display, woeful is the only word... no one displayed any leadership and there was no direction to their play watsoever.
Enda flynn was very good in the second half but i thought he didnt do a whole pile wen marked by mccoy in the first half!
I thot mccoy, quinn and loughran showed the best out of the newcomers!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 07, 2008, 09:25:14 AM
I agree with all your comments the less said about that game the better. Mckeever's not a bad player but why he has to do stupid things like that is beyond me (i know thats not the first time he's done it) and what Winsam says is correct i beleive the Clans have 2-3 lads that would have done a job out there yesterday infact if i'm not called up for next week i'll be well pissed off ;) ;).

As for that guy Darragh Edwards he is brutal and i'm not just saying it on yesterdays performance the lad is a headless chicken and whoever reccomended him to McDonnell is thick too as he plays for some team in Belfast (i think it's Brolly's team "St Brigs")

And yes beware of the Halifax scam ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 07, 2008, 09:48:08 AM
I thought Moriarty done well in full back, in the second half anyway for I couldn't see much action in the 1st in Armagh's half.  By the way McKeever put his knee in yer mans face as well, think he's a great player but a pure gypsy on the field.  Dont think he's fit for centre half yet anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 07, 2008, 09:51:24 AM
Quote from: gander on January 07, 2008, 09:48:08 AM
I thought Moriarty done well in full back, in the second half anyway for I couldn't see much action in the 1st in Armagh's half.  By the way McKeever put his knee in yer mans face as well, think he's a great player but a pure gypsy on the field.  Dont think he's fit for centre half yet anyway.

McKeever is a great tackler, strong on the ball, safe hands, his marking is good & he's quick. 2 Concerns would be his discipline & his distribution. Both of which can be worked on!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 07, 2008, 11:01:14 AM
Mc Keever is a good one as goats has said and he is tried and tested. He also points out the fact that his discipline is a major concern but then again so is Paul Mc Granes but he has perfected it over the years. I don't condone the putting the knee into people on the ground this is appauling and there is no place for it on any field (ps i never saw the incident myself)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 07, 2008, 11:07:56 AM
Ciaran McKeever is Armagh's best back by a country mile, think his distribution is top notch along with his tackling and man-to-man marking, but he HAS to cut the dirt out, he now has been playing senior inter-county football for two full years and should have got sense by now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 07, 2008, 12:04:36 PM
I agree with all that, he is a great defender but just doesn't have the discipline for CHB.  Not yet anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2008, 12:26:30 PM
Quote from: mackers on January 07, 2008, 11:07:56 AM
Ciaran McKeever is Armagh's best back by a country mile, think his distribution is top notch along with his tackling and man-to-man marking, but he HAS to cut the dirt out, he now has been playing senior inter-county football for two full years and should have got sense by now.

People have tried to talk to him before about the dirt but it fell on deaf ears.

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I agree with all your comments the less said about that game the better. Mckeever's not a bad player but why he has to do stupid things like that is beyond me (i know thats not the first time he's done it) and what Winsam says is correct i beleive the Clans have 2-3 lads that would have done a job out there yesterday infact if i'm not called up for next week i'll be well pissed off
He was a great fella last week  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 07, 2008, 12:32:17 PM
Mckeever is a very good defender in my opinion.  He's doing himself no favours at the minute though.  He's just going to make his reputation worse and referees will soon expect it from him and show him no leniency in debatable situations.  There was no call for the knee incident yesterday.  It's something that will need to be stamped out of his game or it will end up costing Armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 07, 2008, 12:47:16 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2008, 12:26:30 PM
Quote from: mackers on January 07, 2008, 11:07:56 AM
Ciaran McKeever is Armagh's best back by a country mile, think his distribution is top notch along with his tackling and man-to-man marking, but he HAS to cut the dirt out, he now has been playing senior inter-county football for two full years and should have got sense by now.

People have tried to talk to him before about the dirt but it fell on deaf ears.

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I agree with all your comments the less said about that game the better. Mckeever's not a bad player but why he has to do stupid things like that is beyond me (i know thats not the first time he's done it) and what Winsam says is correct i beleive the Clans have 2-3 lads that would have done a job out there yesterday infact if i'm not called up for next week i'll be well pissed off
He was a great fella last week  ;)

Fair play to ya Pints. He still is a good lad, i rightly criticised him for his action yesterday and i had one of the best views of it as i was close to it at that side of the pitch but that won't change my opinion of him nor would it if he was a Bridge player. You just can't stand the fella because of that incident years ago that you can't let go, take your Silverbridge glasses off and get over it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 07, 2008, 02:12:44 PM
Does anyone know if the county championship draws taken place yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 07, 2008, 02:54:07 PM
end of the month...21st i think???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2008, 05:50:31 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 07, 2008, 12:47:16 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2008, 12:26:30 PM
Quote from: mackers on January 07, 2008, 11:07:56 AM
Ciaran McKeever is Armagh's best back by a country mile, think his distribution is top notch along with his tackling and man-to-man marking, but he HAS to cut the dirt out, he now has been playing senior inter-county football for two full years and should have got sense by now.

People have tried to talk to him before about the dirt but it fell on deaf ears.

Quote
I agree with all your comments the less said about that game the better. Mckeever's not a bad player but why he has to do stupid things like that is beyond me (i know thats not the first time he's done it) and what Winsam says is correct i beleive the Clans have 2-3 lads that would have done a job out there yesterday infact if i'm not called up for next week i'll be well pissed off
He was a great fella last week  ;)

Fair play to ya Pints. He still is a good lad, i rightly criticised him for his action yesterday and i had one of the best views of it as i was close to it at that side of the pitch but that won't change my opinion of him nor would it if he was a Bridge player. You just can't stand the fella because of that incident years ago that you can't let go, take your Silverbridge glasses off and get over it.

:D
You're right I can't stand the kn**ker over what happened with us but I know you're trying to wind me up because no way could a Clanns man keep a straight face and criticise someone for talking about something that happened "years" ago.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 07, 2008, 06:36:14 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 06, 2008, 03:20:26 PM
Well done Ciaran McKeever, on a whole 10 minutes before putting his knee in someone's chest.
What a kn**ker.

pints, obviously u have ur own issues with c.mckeever but if u had of actually watched the incident properly you will see that the derry player swiped mckeever from his feet and mckeever fell on him, but yes then mckeever was holding him down with his HANDS.... so you are totally wrong. Your always going on about mckeever. jealousy issue there is there??  ;D :P ;D :D ;) :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2008, 06:38:48 PM
Quote from: ardmhaca08 on January 07, 2008, 06:36:14 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 06, 2008, 03:20:26 PM
Well done Ciaran McKeever, on a whole 10 minutes before putting his knee in someone's chest.
What a kn**ker.

pints, obviously u have ur own issues with c.mckeever but if u had of actually watched the incident properly you will see that the derry player swiped mckeever from his feet and mckeever fell on him, but yes then mckeever was holding him down with his HANDS.... so you are totally wrong. Your always going on about mckeever. jealousy issue there is there??  ;D :P ;D :D ;) :-*

I think you need to go and look at the incident again and maybe listen to the other people on this board and what they had to say about it.
and yes, I'm jealous, I wish I was Ciaran Mckeever  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on January 07, 2008, 06:55:45 PM
i wish you were him too. that would mean he was retired.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 07, 2008, 07:05:41 PM
Some people on this board are pathetic. who lie in their houses every evening, probably as fat as fools and couldnt kick snow of a rope but can sit and write on the thing and criticise lads who are trying to do well and represent their county, come championship time it is the likes of you's who have the flags out supporting the likes of ciaran mckeever!!! Do you's go out to work everyday, gym/traning everynight of the week?? just catch a grip!!!  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2008, 07:09:55 PM
I'll have no flags out supporing Ciaran McKeever, he will never have my support, orange jersey or not. 

Why don't you post under the name we're use to you posting under ardmhaca?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 07, 2008, 07:15:07 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2008, 07:09:55 PM

Why don't you post under the name we're use to you posting under ardmhaca?

and what would that be??  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2008, 07:18:16 PM
Quote from: ardmhaca08 on January 07, 2008, 07:15:07 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2008, 07:09:55 PM

Why don't you post under the name we're use to you posting under ardmhaca?

and what would that be??  ::)
I'm not sure but I don't believe for a second that you are a new member.
I can't be bothered though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 07, 2008, 07:19:40 PM
pints could go on all day about mr. mckeever so lets start on something else? bridge for promotion this year pints? behind the crups of course...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 07, 2008, 07:21:06 PM
ok!
not startin a row just sayin cant see how people on this can sit and criticise everyone that kicks a ball for armagh. theres not 1 year goes by that a player doesnt get criticised on this!! would love to see the members of the gaaboard shape up a team and see how well they'd do against any armagh team!  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 07, 2008, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on January 07, 2008, 07:19:40 PM
bridge for promotion this year pints? behind the crups of course...

pfffff  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2008, 07:24:26 PM
Quote from: ardmhaca08 on January 07, 2008, 07:21:06 PM
ok!
not startin a row just sayin cant see how people on this can sit and criticise everyone that kicks a ball for armagh. theres not 1 year goes by that a player doesnt get criticised on this!! would love to see the members of the gaaboard shape up a team and see how well they'd do against any armagh team!  ::)

That's life!

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pints could go on all day about mr. mckeever so lets start on something else? bridge for promotion this year pints? behind the crups of course...
Should be around the top with yourselves and a few others.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 07, 2008, 07:29:49 PM
QuoteI'll have no flags out supporing Ciaran McKeever, he will never have my support, orange jersey or not. 

Funny I've an order in for a batch of Ciaran McKeever Armagh flags. Should do a roaring trade for the championship. Hoping to get sponsorship from the good people who produce stout at Diageo.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 07, 2008, 07:34:52 PM
Quote from: ardmhaca08 on January 07, 2008, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on January 07, 2008, 07:19:40 PM
bridge for promotion this year pints? behind the crups of course...

pfffff  ;D

well i cant see the teams coming down being much stronger than anything division 2 had to offer last year. the teams gone up, killeavy and cullyhanna are definately more difficult opponents than whitecross and tir na nog. Newtown are a handy side at home and could get up a head of steam, providing they dont lose young o'rourke to the county panel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2008, 07:38:14 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on January 07, 2008, 07:34:52 PM
Quote from: ardmhaca08 on January 07, 2008, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on January 07, 2008, 07:19:40 PM
bridge for promotion this year pints? behind the crups of course...

pfffff  ;D

well i cant see the teams coming down being much stronger than anything division 2 had to offer last year. the teams gone up, killeavy and cullyhanna are definately more difficult opponents than whitecross and tir na nog. Newtown are a handy side at home and could get up a head of steam, providing they dont lose young o'rourke to the county panel.

I was very surprised with Newtown last year, they really aren't that strong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 07, 2008, 08:04:38 PM
they had a shaky start but put a good run together midway through the season to the end. south armagh teams will dominate again, its a pity you have to travel to lurgan a few times a year. puts an awful dint in the pintin time of a sunday afternoon. a few tins in the car on the way home just isnt the same.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 07, 2008, 08:30:11 PM
You are well use to it QUB.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 07, 2008, 08:51:03 PM
Quote
I was very surprised with Newtown last year, they really aren't that strong.

Only team in Division 2 to beat St Pat's in 2007!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 07, 2008, 09:07:51 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 07, 2008, 08:30:11 PM
You are well use to it QUB.

you would know corn, u've been to many a party that ive been at.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 07, 2008, 09:09:53 PM
Indeed I have LALALA and speaking of which you fancy a few pints on wed in the hat, you in bfast?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 07, 2008, 09:11:56 PM
i will be, working to half 5 but will be free after that for a few pints of stout. u for the botanic inn or a "quiet one"?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2008, 10:17:17 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 07, 2008, 08:51:03 PM
Quote
I was very surprised with Newtown last year, they really aren't that strong.

Only team in Division 2 to beat St Pat's in 2007!

So?
Ollie Hearty give them a point in the 'bridge and the bridge beat them by 5 points in Newtown.  I just expected them to be a lot stronger, weren't they 4th from bottom when they went down?  I thought that spoke volumes about division 1.



Corn and qub, will yous arrange your date somewhere else.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 08, 2008, 09:58:22 AM
Quote from: qub la la la on January 07, 2008, 08:04:38 PM
they had a shaky start but put a good run together midway through the season to the end. south armagh teams will dominate again, its a pity you have to travel to lurgan a few times a year. puts an awful dint in the pintin time of a sunday afternoon. a few tins in the car on the way home just isnt the same.

You only think you have it bad going to Lurgan a few times a year. Try going to South Armagh almost every second Sunday or worse still a Friday night and then you'll know what loosing pinting time is like :'( :'(.

Good man Pints, i was trying to wind you up slightly ;) but at the same time you really need to forgive and forget. Remember the old saying "what happens on the field stays on the field" Jasus if you were to fall out with every one you hit or hits you no-one outside of Clan na Gael would talk to me (no smart remarks please) but you get my drift. I know men who are the nicest gentlemen you could meet of the pitch but once they're on the field of play they are the dirtest and hardest Bas***ds you could meet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on January 08, 2008, 11:07:02 AM
QuoteOllie Hearty give them a point in the 'bridge and the bridge beat them by 5 points in Newtown.

Pints,
I never knew there was a Hearty playing of St Michael's.  Is he any relation to the referee of the same name?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 08, 2008, 12:42:54 PM
QuotePints,
I never knew there was a Hearty playing of St Michael's.
I never knew he was a newtown man either until that game.
He tends to move around clubs a lot - you'll normally find him playing for whoever the 'bridge is playing against.


illdecide
Quote
Good man Pints, i was trying to wind you up slightly Wink but at the same time you really need to forgive and forget. Remember the old saying "what happens on the field stays on the field" Jasus if you were to fall out with every one you hit or hits you no-one outside of Clan na Gael would talk to me (no smart remarks please) but you get my drift. I know men who are the nicest gentlemen you could meet of the pitch but once they're on the field of play they are the dirtest and hardest Bas***ds you could meet.
That might be fine to a certain extent but what happened that day in Cross had nothing to do with football and I know that unless you were there you'll find it very hard to understand. 
Tell me illdecide, would you go drinking with someone who 15 seconds after throw in ran 20 yards and hit a 17 year old club mate of yours, who was bending for the ball, as hard as he could in an attempt take him out of the game,  like McKeever did in the first game?
Or how about someone who spat a ball of phlegm at a 20 year old club mate of yours as McKeever did?
Does a "good lad" go to a game and threaten county board officials? 
And when you talk about forgiving and forgetting come back to me when you've actually feared for players lives on a football field or when you see a 19 year old get his head repeatedly stamped on, but you'd buy the culprit a pint? 

You'll get me accused of going on about Cullyhanna now and you started it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on January 08, 2008, 03:14:55 PM
pints no disrespect to you or any member of silverbridge, no disrespect to ciaran mckeever or any member of cullyhanna but i can almost certainly confirm that everyone who post messages on the armagh page of this site is sick to the back teeth of you going on about ciaran mckeever and a row that happened in a match 18 months ago!

it would certainly be appreciated if you are to continue your hatredness for ciaran mckeever and cullyhanna if you would set-up a seperate post for you to continue your campaign there!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 08, 2008, 03:21:14 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on January 08, 2008, 03:14:55 PM
it would certainly be appreciated if you are to continue your hatredness for ciaran mckeever and cullyhanna if you would set-up a seperate post for you to continue your campaign there!



here here d-s!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 08, 2008, 03:36:56 PM
On the point of fearing for a club mates life i would say that illdecide certainly has. Myself and him witnesses the eager beaver of Dromintee nearly ending the life of Phillip Oldham. That night i thought he was dead as i saw him with his eyes rolling in his head. I won't go on about the incident any more but i certainly wouldn't forgive him for what he did. But i also wouldn't keep going on about it at every single opportunity. When we play dromintee now it does add a little spice( as if there wasn't anyway) but i personally would never go out to do him any harm. It happened and it was wrong and scary but the show must go on. If you are asking would i have a pint with the Beaver, certainly i would however i would also tell him before he swallowed it that he was big time out of order that day. If i got that opportunity. I know this board is for discussions and i keep seeing people type criticisms to pints about the issue which to a certain extent is wrong, but he is entitled to his opinion. But Pints is there any chance you could refrain from the temptaions??? It is for your own peace on this thread. If you feel so strongly about it go and see Mc Keever and tell the mare what you think of him personally he doesn't live a million miles away from you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 08, 2008, 03:38:53 PM
Well first of all i didn't buy him a pint (i'm to tight for that craic ;)) I had a pint in his company. Secondly you can't expect me to hate someone just because you hate him or because he done something to someone else/club.

I know what your saying about how could you expect to forgive when people carry out such actions on the field but these things happen i have been involved in free for all's through the years and believe me many a thump i have thrown and recieved but i have played against these guys the year after and what do you do you just have to shake his hand and get on with it, ok you might have it in the back of your mind that if a 50/50 tackle comes along and the sitution presents it's self then you take the middle out of him fairly may i add but thats Gaelic Football. Deal with it.

On another point which is what i would have done if Mr McKeever or anyone else for that matter was bullying my team mates i would have been over protecting them (especially guys on the young/light size). And these guys are playing senior football for god's sake many a more hit they'll get and dish out so what do you do....

(and i'm not trying to wind you up)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 08, 2008, 03:43:28 PM
To change the subject...

How will the Ogs fair out this year with conceivably 6/7 county panelists??

I know it is detriment to Ballyhegan with the 2 men (Possibly 3 this year!  :o )
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 08, 2008, 04:03:04 PM
What's the story with Courtney, is he on(or likely to be invited onto) the Armagh senior panel?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 08, 2008, 04:10:39 PM
if thats paul your talking about? he's with his university at the minute but should be on the panel after i wud say!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 08, 2008, 05:20:04 PM
Sure they have always had 6/7 on the county panel and still done nought. Sure enough they have county panellists but are they really county standard???? This is an open question i will pass judgement after i see the replies.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on January 08, 2008, 05:31:23 PM
if theres 6/7 ogs men on the panel come the championship or even the league god help armagh i certainty wouldnt be expecting much of them this year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 08, 2008, 05:47:51 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on January 08, 2008, 03:14:55 PM
pints no disrespect to you or any member of silverbridge, no disrespect to ciaran mckeever or any member of cullyhanna but i can almost certainly confirm that everyone who post messages on the armagh page of this site is sick to the back teeth of you going on about ciaran mckeever and a row that happened in a match 18 months ago!

it would certainly be appreciated if you are to continue your hatredness for ciaran mckeever and cullyhanna if you would set-up a seperate post for you to continue your campaign there!

QuoteYou'll get me accused of going on about Cullyhanna now and you started it.
Look at that illdecide, I'm psychic!

DS, would you mind telling me who first mentioned the incident with Cullyhanna and the 'Bridge?
Was it me or was it illdecide?
No harm to you but I could take you more seriously if you didn't stop posting when Cruppen's promotion hopes ended.

winsam
QuoteOn the point of fearing for a club mates life i would say that illdecide certainly has. Myself and him witnesses the eager beaver of Dromintee nearly ending the life of Phillip Oldham. That night i thought he was dead as i saw him with his eyes rolling in his head. I won't go on about the incident any more but i certainly wouldn't forgive him for what he did. But i also wouldn't keep going on about it at every single opportunity.
I was think about that after I posted actually and even that was a debatable accident (I know you don't believe that)/ rush of blood to the head when the incidents I'm talking about wasn't but your comments have proved my earlier point to illdecide. 
With regards to me bringing the incident up, I was answering illdecide.  You yourself have brought incidents up from championships thirty years ago to penalties not being awarded a few years back and I don't mind that - it adds the craic - but for some reason I can't comment on something that happened 16 months ago even when it was in relation to something someone else said.
What's with that?

illdecide
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I know what your saying about how could you expect to forgive when people carry out such actions on the field but these things happen i have been involved in free for all's through the years and believe me many a thump i have thrown and recieved but i have played against these guys the year after and what do you do you just have to shake his hand and get on with it, ok you might have it in the back of your mind that if a 50/50 tackle comes along and the sitution presents it's self then you take the middle out of him fairly may i add but thats Gaelic Football. Deal with it.
I agree with what you're saying but again, you fail to understand what happened that day, it wasn't like any other row on a football field.  Maybe some of the rest of the 'bridge boys are more forgiving, they probably are actually but that's my feelings on it. 
We probably should leave it there as those, who can only post when their teams are doing well, will get annoyed. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 08, 2008, 06:30:00 PM
QuoteI never knew he was a newtown man either until that game.
He tends to move around clubs a lot - you'll normally find him playing for whoever the 'bridge is playing against.

Yes Pints, I can imagine it now - Ollie sitting in his Belleeks lair tending to his moustache and plotting the downfall of Silverbridge for another season.

Would ya wise up - he makes a few mistakes as a referee right enough and I've said that to him in the past but he's basically a dacent fella and does his best. I'm sure if we go through the pages of this thread he's not the first referee to meet your displeasure.

And there's probably enough in your posts about Ciaran McKeever to keep a Physcology student going for months  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 08, 2008, 06:33:09 PM
A lot of referees are just bad tac. Ollie, i believe, is the only one that is a cheat.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on January 08, 2008, 09:43:22 PM
SOrry lads, but as one who was there and not a silverbridge man, I have to agree with pints on this one.  We should never ever allow ourselves to forget what happened in Cross that day as an example of how wrong the whole GAA thing can get when utter thugs form themselves into a club.  Cullyhanna are at it this years.  McKeever is a dirty cynical bad bastard as is Casey and his da and all belonging to him.  How can we say anything else.  Jesus, look at the evidence.  How many examples do we need of what these boys have done for us to stand up to them .  There is a general brutality in that club that cant even put them together for a charity night in their own club without them knocking seven bells of shite out of one another. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 08, 2008, 10:04:45 PM
dont think the latter part of that is appropriate for this thread or the gaa board as a whole seany.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 08, 2008, 10:12:17 PM
Quote from: Seany on January 08, 2008, 09:43:22 PM
SOrry lads, but as one who was there and not a silverbridge man, I have to agree with pints on this one.  We should never ever allow ourselves to forget what happened in Cross that day as an example of how wrong the whole GAA thing can get when utter thugs form themselves into a club.  Cullyhanna are at it this years.  McKeever is a dirty cynical bad bastard as is Casey and his da and all belonging to him.  How can we say anything else.  Jesus, look at the evidence.  How many examples do we need of what these boys have done for us to stand up to them .  There is a general brutality in that club that cant even put them together for a charity night in their own club without them knocking seven bells of shite out of one another. 

agree wit ya there seany but its time we move on tat fella just loves people talkin bout him he thrives on bein a hatefull **** so lets just leave it at tat ok :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 08, 2008, 10:12:53 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on January 08, 2008, 10:04:45 PM
dont think the latter part of that is appropriate for this thread or the gaa board as a whole seany.

Well said qub
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 09, 2008, 08:28:23 AM
QuoteA lot of referees are just bad tac. Ollie, i believe, is the only one that is a cheat.

People in glass houses should never.........
Look closer to home at refs and you'll find equally as bad if not worse!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 09, 2008, 10:15:24 AM
Your right pints your are entitled to your opinion like everyone else on any issue you want and it doesn't bother me if you talk about the incident all year round. If i don't choose to get into it (as i wasn't there) i can just ignore it. But if i choose to comment on some aspects then i can if i wish ( and i am not saying that you said i couldn't) The comment regarding Paul Quinn is an absolute disgrace Seany. Will you ever catch yourself on and have some respect and dignity for the Dead. The lad is dead and i am sure if any of his family saw what you had written they would be completely appauled. Shame on you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 09, 2008, 10:18:05 AM
Quote from: qub la la la on January 08, 2008, 10:04:45 PM
dont think the latter part of that is appropriate for this thread or the gaa board as a whole seany.

Agreed. Seany i think you should go back in and modify that last comment as it's not appropiate for this site nor any site as it has nothing to do with GAA and could cause upset to people
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 09, 2008, 11:26:19 AM
Good man Seany - judge, jury & executioner ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on January 09, 2008, 03:43:49 PM
Modified and I apologise.  Got a bit carried away there.

I still stand by the rest of the post.  McKeever is getting Armagh in general a bad name with his cowardly judas tactics.  Not what the men in Thurles set out to create in 1884.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on January 09, 2008, 04:34:14 PM
Who would we like to see as Armagh Captain for the year ahead?

I personally think we should have a new captain this year.  One of the younger lads who have been around the team for the past 4/5 years.

Possibilities include A Mallon, B Mallon, R Clarke.

But if McGrane wanted it for another year then that would be no big problem i suppose.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 09, 2008, 04:35:34 PM
Quote from: High Catch on January 09, 2008, 04:34:14 PM
Who would we like to see as Armagh Captain for the year ahead?

I personally think we should have a new captain this year.  One of the younger lads who have been around the team for the past 4/5 years.

Possibilities include A Mallon, B Mallon, R Clarke.

But if McGrane wanted it for another year then that would be no big problem i suppose.

mckeever? what do you think pints?  ;) ha just kidding!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 09, 2008, 04:48:49 PM
I'd go for McGrane, he's the natural leader of the team.  If he didn't want it I'd say it would go to A Kernan or Maybe Stevie
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 09, 2008, 06:40:59 PM
Is Oisin still playing the year? If not Mc grane for captain i would give Mc Conville the nod. After all he is doing the business for the cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 09, 2008, 08:16:05 PM
Winsamsoon, we have fallen out over this before. In my opinion the player had every right to go for the ball and just hit Oldham hard. It was a hospital pass from a Clans man. You have your version and I have mine and we are obviously not going to agree but every time you bring it up I will have to bring up the version that I believe but we will leave it at that and everyone in the ground was very relieved when Oldham got up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on January 09, 2008, 08:49:11 PM
pints as i said in my comment to you it was no disrespect to you or silverbridge, ciaran mckeever, cullyhanna or any club for that matter but as soon as cullyhanna is mentioned on this site you go into overdrive and there is no denying it! i wouldn't be a big lover of some of the cullyhanna team but i do know others on the team and happen to get on well with them, the same possibly every team in the county.

i wasnt in crossmaglen on the day of your match with cullyhanna and i have heard from reliable sources that it was terrible what had occured i can only comment on what i have been told. anyone who is on this page regularly knows that their is definitely no love lost between you and ciaran mckeever or any of the famous 6 or 7 orchestrators of the brawl that day from cullyhanna.

i'm only stating my own opinion and my involvement in this page ended when the season ended not when our chances of promotion ended! i do happen to think that you are a valued poster on this page but i do certainly feel that the cullyhanna episode is alittle played out that's all!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 09, 2008, 09:27:54 PM
You never answered my question DS - who started talking about what happened with Cullyhanna?  Was it me?

I take it by the lack of an answer that you now realise it wasn't me so why feel the need to come in and put the boot in (and announcing yourself as representative for everyone else on this thread) or where you just guilty of not reading the thread properly and some lazy posting?

and I note you have no objections to the clans and dromintee men talking about the Oldham incident again?

btw I don't care what your views or what anyone else's views of that day where, an odd comment here and there saying what happened was "terrible" etc is patronising in the extreme when you consider during the disgraceful handling of the matter by the county board the rest of the county turned it's back!  You call yourself clubmen and GAA men?! HA!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on January 09, 2008, 10:10:15 PM
ok! whatever you say
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 09, 2008, 10:12:17 PM
Great comeback and you never answered my question.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on January 10, 2008, 02:28:18 AM
Just back from Breffni.

Via

At least we have a 100% record
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 10, 2008, 07:54:04 AM
What was the team & who played well?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 10, 2008, 09:22:49 AM
Could someone post the details of the game? I take it from that remark about 100% recored that we were stuffed again :'(

The team selection would be interesting to hear if any of you know it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 10, 2008, 09:29:58 AM
Fermanagh won - 1.11 - 0.10 - I believe was the score.

Told Gregory Loughran shone well again - & Paddy McKeever (who scored 3 points) when he came on.

Liam McBarron got the Fermanagh goal & some new fella got 5 scores for them.

That's all so far!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on January 10, 2008, 09:38:44 AM
Easy to see the game wasn't on TV last nite like it was on Sunday!

Not too many reports in as of yet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 10, 2008, 09:48:09 AM
McKenna Cup full-time scoreboard 
FERMANAGH 1-11 0-10 ARMAGH
(H/T 1-7 0-4)

DERRY 1-15 2-08 ST MARY'S

(H/T 1-8 0-4)

ANTRIM 0-10 0-09 CAVAN

(H/T 0-5 0-5)

TYRONE 3-06 1-07 DOWN

(H/T 2-4 1-1)


From BBC website. I see their coverage is getting better ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 10, 2008, 10:05:23 AM
Lads i took this off Orchard County!!! And dunno who wrote it either but it's long and detailed



Went to Breffni park tonight to watch the game thought I would give you some of my views on it . First of all I take my hat of to Cavan Gaa . what a ground, it looked splendid under 6 huge lighting bars . The pitch was lit brighter than the sunniest day. Small crowd ,maybe only a hundred Armagh Supporters ,outnumberd two to one by a very voiciferous Fermanagh contingent. Well in general it was a better display than Sunday. The half-back line of McKeever Aidan O Rourke and Finnian Moriarity was adequate. Enda went to full back with Mc Coy at corner and I am at a loss to know who the other corner back was. Having said that the full back line and indeed the defence as a whole gave away far to many fres particularly in the first half ,at one stage we were seven points down . One can argue over a few of them as bad decisions but Fermanagh gave a much more controlled dispaly of tackiling. There were no programmes left and the programmes that have been printed for these matches are useless because we only have squads and they were not playing to squad numbers. Hence if u missed the announcements at the start You struggled to come to terms with the team line-up and with so many new faces well you can guess the problem. Aidan O Rourke played a very intelligent game and although not near match fitness did give a much needed physical presence to the centre. Unlike the lights luck did not shine our way as right from the throw-in and I mean literally the throw-in Ronan Austin was carried of on a stretcher with what seemed like a nasty injury. Whether the fermanagh mid-fielder came down on leg I am not sure but I dont suspect anything sinister. Dara Edwards his partner was not at the races . We were cleaned out at mid-field and Ronanns replacement Mark Quinn just isnt up to inter county standard at the moment. But Gareth swift moved out midway and what a difference he made . For me personally I thought Swift was Armagh's man of the match . He ran tackled competed carried the ball and generally gave what I would call a very encouraging display. Again our forwards proved to be the achilles heel. Hard won possesion was not turned into scores by weak forward play. In my opinion Martin O rourke gets more ball than any three men on the pitch but his ball winning ability is destroyed by poor mobility and forward awareness. Time and time again he is bottled up becomes frustarted then involved in afters and booked and tonight was lucky not to be sent of. Its obvious he has great qualities but they need to be more fine tuned and Martin more focused on the game not the talking. Paddy McKeevers introduction tonight for me was another encouraging sign. Only on the field a few minutes he knocked over a peach of a point and showed graet enthusiasm for the game . Mistakes ,yes ,missed frees an odd one ,but overall Paddy I thought showed good leadership qualities . Six points down at half time things could only get better and that they did Armagh quickly pegged Fermanagh back to three points with three well taken scores . Armagh in the second half were most encouraging and outscored them 6-4 . really the goal was the difference. The team played better as a unit but to often free kicks were misplaced and again a silly mistake by our Lisommon goalkeeper and a few dubious frees let Fermanagh of the hook and gave them a victory that seemed to mean more to them than defeat did to us. In defence of our goalkeeper whose name eludes me his kickouts were very good and for good parts of the second half we dominated mid-field. Conor Clarke and Stefan Forker were introduced and this produced a mixed bag. Conor unfortunately just didnt cut it . Made some simple errors kicking was weak and of target and surprisingly didnt seem to hav ethe legs when chasing back on an Fermanagh player in possesion. Pity I rate him highly but the proof of the pudding is in the eating and Conor starved out there. On the other hand Stefan definetly showed well. His first touch was excellent he held possesion well and moved the ball with some good intelligent play . Although only on for a few mins gave a good account. Mc Coy at corner back has got it and with a bit more time to asess I think he will come up trumps. Gregory Loughran gave all he had but I think he ia a limited player.his position at number 11 is much more suited to his style of play. Strong robust I thought he had a decent game .. In all A much more heartning display than Sunday even though at one stage I thought a cricket score was going to be the result and not in our favour. Peter is right to giv ethese fringe players a good opportunityto stake aclaim in the last thirty . Its important they get the chance and die with their boots on rather than sit on the bench hoping waiting and eventually being told to go without getting a fair crack of the whip . Anyway sorry for boring . I hav eonly posted twice before and I am sure u can guess why ..lol anyway up the orchard and role on Sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 10, 2008, 10:07:01 AM
Quote from: High Catch on January 10, 2008, 09:38:44 AM
Easy to see the game wasn't on TV last nite like it was on Sunday!

Not too many reports in as of yet

A sunday aftrernoon in Lurgan is a bit handier than a Wednesday night in Breffni also!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 10, 2008, 10:49:41 AM
Just phoned Ronan Austin there. He broke his left leg (i think he said Fibula) last night from the throw in. He told me all he remembers is the ref throwing up the ball and him catching it and thats it, woke up in Cavan hospital on the morphine. He's not to sure how bad a break it is as it was late last night someone today will assess it and phone him in the afternoon. Lets hope it heals without any complications.

Get well soon Austie!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 10, 2008, 11:30:40 AM
Horrible luck!

Get well soon big lad!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 10, 2008, 11:39:27 AM
Team was:
1. P Rodgers 2. Gerard McCreesh 3. E McNulty 4. G McCoy 5. C McKeever 6. A'Rourke 7. F Morairty 8. R Austin 9. D Edwards 10. B Mallon 11. G Loughran 12. L O'Hare 13. M O'Rourke 14. G Swift 15. K O'Rourke

Couple of points on that report I though Swift played well, only criticism is that sometimes he tried to take too much out of the ball but hopefully he gets an extended run. I can't agree with the assessment on Paddy McKeever, yes he scored a great point at the end of the first half and hit a great pass in for one of the early points in the second half but he also came up with some of his usual errors. I thought Conor Clarke was poor when he came on with Forker showing fairly well.
Hope Ronan Austin's injury isn't as bad as it looked, the lad was in agony, very unfortunate, just seemed to land awkwardly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 11, 2008, 09:35:40 AM
when do the club fixtures for the season be made??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 11, 2008, 10:27:40 AM
Corn i have taken on board your points of view on the incident but i have to say i am completely shattered by the fact you thought we had fallen out over this issue :) :) :) :). As you know in arguments we all have opinions. This is what allows this site to keep going, i say happy days because it sometimes gives you the chance to see it from the unbiased side of the fence (even though we are never biased) ;) Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one and some stink, like seanies the other day but the lad has apologised so we'll forgive him. Rol on the arguments because they are healthy if nothing else. Who wouldn't want to debate our great game and the incidents that occur in it. Oh and Ronan i hope you get back soon lad your services are required at club level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 11, 2008, 10:44:39 AM
1st Training session this sunday :'( It's strange because your looking forward to it and dreading it at the same time. This will be my last year playing although i don't expect to figure in to many games as there are some good young fellas coming through who needs the games more than i need them. Hopefully i will be giving out more orders than receiving them ;) ;)

I assume all the teams around the country will be starting soon???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 11, 2008, 12:01:59 PM
County Championship draws are being made Thursday 17th Jan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on January 11, 2008, 12:11:40 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 11, 2008, 12:01:59 PM
County Championship draws are being made Thursday 17th Jan.

I was told it was Monday 21st?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 11, 2008, 12:16:38 PM
You could be right, I had that date in my head too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 11, 2008, 01:08:33 PM
ill decide, from wat ive heard ur boots and a few of the other (lets say more mature players) may get more footy than u expect this year!! sure did the 93/94 team not beat the youngers lads there on boxing day?!?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Broken_Cross on January 11, 2008, 01:13:56 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 11, 2008, 10:44:39 AM
1st Training session this sunday :'( It's strange because your looking forward to it and dreading it at the same time. This will be my last year playing although i don't expect to figure in to many games as there are some good young fellas coming through who needs the games more than i need them. Hopefully i will be giving out more orders than receiving them ;) ;)

I assume all the teams around the country will be starting soon???

How young are you?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 11, 2008, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on January 11, 2008, 01:08:33 PM
ill decide, from wat ive heard ur boots and a few of the other (lets say more mature players) may get more footy than u expect this year!! sure did the 93/94 team not beat the youngers lads there on boxing day?!?!

thats correct Hank, the 94 team beat the current team by 6pts i think. It's hard to beat class ;) :D

I seriously hope and expect a few younger ones to be coming through this year but i suppose if they are not cutting it the tracksuit will have to come off.

Broken cross I'm 34 years young and at the wrong end of the old scales. To many chocolate fingers (if you read Brendan Crossan's article in today Irish News you'll know what I'm talking about)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: john mcgill on January 11, 2008, 06:54:49 PM
Illdecide, is Barry McCabe still involved with the Clans.  I played with him in London in the twilight (actually the darkness) of my footballing time.  He was one of the fittest men I have ever met and a gentleman to boot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stiffler on January 11, 2008, 10:15:06 PM
Any one know is Aidan Farrell the new Tir Na Nog manager?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on January 12, 2008, 02:42:42 AM
Quote from: illdecide on January 11, 2008, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on January 11, 2008, 01:08:33 PM
ill decide, from wat ive heard ur boots and a few of the other (lets say more mature players) may get more footy than u expect this year!! sure did the 93/94 team not beat the youngers lads there on boxing day?!?!

thats correct Hank, the 94 team beat the current team by 6pts i think. It's hard to beat class ;) :D

I seriously hope and expect a few younger ones to be coming through this year but i suppose if they are not cutting it the tracksuit will have to come off.

Broken cross I'm 34 years young and at the wrong end of the old scales. To many chocolate fingers (if you read Brendan Crossan's article in today Irish News you'll know what I'm talking about)

Ach Dom you've a bit a football left in ya yet...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 12, 2008, 11:28:12 AM
Championship draw is on the Monday.

Ach Win did we not fall out about something must of been the 'penalty' incident ha.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Broken_Cross on January 12, 2008, 11:42:01 AM
Quote from: illdecide on January 11, 2008, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on January 11, 2008, 01:08:33 PM
ill decide, from wat ive heard ur boots and a few of the other (lets say more mature players) may get more footy than u expect this year!! sure did the 93/94 team not beat the youngers lads there on boxing day?!?!

I seriously hope and expect a few younger ones to be coming through this year but i suppose if they are not cutting it the tracksuit will have to come off.

Broken cross I'm 34 years young and at the wrong end of the old scales. To many chocolate fingers (if you read Brendan Crossan's article in today Irish News you'll know what I'm talking about)

I turn 31 this month and will return to club football after a 13 year break! saw the chocolate fingers piece but would say those guys should stick to exercise on the playstation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 12, 2008, 06:56:50 PM
It was never going to happen, but if Armagh had met Queens in the semi, would Aidan O'Rouke being shouting at Queens players "Mark me, mark me, hit me hard!"?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 12, 2008, 07:31:18 PM
Thanks Hardstation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on January 13, 2008, 04:49:20 PM
any1 here anything on the armagh game?? wen is the panel being cut?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 13, 2008, 07:25:56 PM
The guy at the gate says £7. I gasped, and starting fingering thru change and he says "ah sure a fiver will do". Orior 1 up.

The programme cost £2.

Davitt Park was in terrible condition, and players sliding all over the place, but sure, I thought St Marys coped with it better. For long periods of the game they played pocession football in the Armagh half. I thought our midfield were poor. No clean catches (ok, not a day for such) but too often instead of a quick release the player turned back into trouble.

Good to see Phillip Loughran on the field again (came on for an injured player).

McVeigh from St Marys did what every gael outside of Armagh wanted to do - he floored Martin O'Rourke with a massive gentle shove. McVeigh was already on a yellow, so I reckon he had drawn the short straw before the match. Dont know why Martin came on at full forward and Kevin went out to the half. Maybe Martin was not fully fit.

I thought Martin Ferris did well, as did Paddy McKeever who for me was the only player to shine. Aidan O'Rouke did a good job, along with McKinney in goals.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 13, 2008, 07:46:58 PM
Where's McCaughey from?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 13, 2008, 08:04:17 PM

sarsfields. how do you know about him pints?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 13, 2008, 08:07:19 PM
Quote from: Uladh on January 13, 2008, 08:04:17 PM

sarsfields. how do you know about him pints?
How do I know about him?  he's mentioned on orchardcounty as having scored 1-2.
I wonder is he the boy they were reaving about having scored a load in division 3 last year??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 13, 2008, 08:19:45 PM
Paul Carville(portydown) 0-6 today and has been scoring freely throughout the McKenna cup, a great wee player, maybe a bit short in stature for county fiball.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on January 13, 2008, 08:32:54 PM
brief summary on the game today:-

pitch terrible with a lot of puddles throughout dug up very easy, im sure clan na gael will be glad to see if left in such a mess!

st.marys played the far better possession football and went two points in front from the boot of tir na nog's paul carville (very impressive with the left footed frees) armagh responded with 1-1 from kevin o'rourke, he took his goal well fisting the ball over the goalkeeper. mccaughey from sarsfields found the net for armagh squeezing the ball through the goalkeepers legs, armagh six points to the good and cruising then they switched off! st. marys came back with 1-3 to level the score at half-time.
the game was entertaining enough given the teams on show and the condition of the playing surface some great scores particularly from paddy mckeever and paul carville. st.marys edged in front by 2 points going into the last ten minutes they had a man stupidly sent off for becoming involved in an incident with martin o'rourke. armagh pulled back to level and i suppose a draw was a fair enough result for both teams.

the armagh lads on the st.marys team (gareth o'neill - dromintee, paul carville - tir na nog, john mc cormack - annaghmore, paul keenan - carrickcruppen and ryan hamill - silverbridge) done rightly and should maybe be given an opportunity to try out in the national league at some stage -

positives for armagh - aidan o'rourke and martin ferris excellent in defence, midfield non-existant, forwards paddy mckeever and kevin o'rourke tried hard.

negatives for armagh - enda is past it im afraid got roasted today and couldnt wait to be called ashore mid-way through the first half, ciaran mckeever going off holding hamstring just hope it was a slight twinge and not torn. big time need a midfield for the national league as mark quinn and brendan donaghy today came off second best in my opinion!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on January 13, 2008, 09:00:51 PM
Whats the story with Philly Loughran? Thought someone said recently he had serious back problems
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 13, 2008, 09:13:40 PM
What position did Hamill play in?

I think the Bridge's Brendan Byrne is with St Mary's too, didn't he feature?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on January 13, 2008, 09:17:08 PM
QuoteWhats the story with Philly Loughran?

Nice big lad but he can't cut it. If we're relying on him we're in big trouble. Anyone got today's lineout?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on January 13, 2008, 09:19:45 PM
Heard a good one last nite. Apparently Tullysarron have appointed a Tyrone man to take their senior team, for silly money whilst overlooking Vinny Loughran and an inside man who were proposing to do for nothing! They must have sold some tickets for their car draw. And he took some team in Antrim last year and pissed off before the end of the year with their money in his pocket.  ::)

Tullysarron for the Junior, or it could be a very costly year!
This all came from a fella from a club close by, so it could be just bull, (notice use of the word apparently).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 13, 2008, 09:21:53 PM
welcome to the board rabbit, what club are you from?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on January 13, 2008, 09:37:30 PM
Sorry pints Id rather not say, I a know a few people around the PortMor-Tullysarron-Grange triangle and Ive been admiring the view from afar on the Armagh site and it can get very twisted, but years ago I played abit of underage footie for a club within touching distance of Armagh town, heading south.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 13, 2008, 10:33:07 PM
On the subject of this year's managers, Brian Mallons brother is looking after O'Hanlons.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 13, 2008, 10:50:51 PM
Did Barry Shannon play corner back today, what is the point in trying players if you are not going to try them in their positions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 13, 2008, 11:01:26 PM

Shannon started corner back but followed that red haired fella from the bridge out the field. did a good job on him too.

it's difficult to take anything from these games given the conditions they were all played in and the weakness of the teams. very few if any newcomers grasped the nettle. gregory loughran has probably been the pick. the ferris lad gets on the ball a lot but does very little with it beyond slow the play up. he misses so many tackles too, but there's probably raw materials to work with.

of the older guard, enda has had a very worrying 3 outings. out of condition and well off the pace all 3 days. AOR has pleasantly surprised me and performed well both wed and today.

overall i'd say there won't be much change when it comes to the names on the panel for the NFL.

Roll on cavan in cross and a strong armagh outfit showing us what's left in the locker.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 14, 2008, 08:45:17 AM
Quote from: border rabbit on January 13, 2008, 09:00:51 PM
Whats the story with Philly Loughran? Thought someone said recently he had serious back problems

He didn't tell me how serious his back problem was (He didn't look in too much pain when I saw him... )

What age is the Sarsfields lad? - I thought he performed very well for his fisrst game & in those conditions! - He was super for the Derrytrasna men against Ballyhegan last year!

QuoteRoll on cavan in cross and a strong armagh outfit showing us what's left in the locker.

Agreed!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 14, 2008, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: border rabbit on January 13, 2008, 09:19:45 PM
Heard a good one last nite. Apparently Tullysarron have appointed a Tyrone man to take their senior team, for silly money whilst overlooking Vinny Loughran and an inside man who were proposing to do for nothing! They must have sold some tickets for their car draw. And he took some team in Antrim last year and pissed off before the end of the year with their money in his pocket.  ::)

Tullysarron for the Junior, or it could be a very costly year!
This all came from a fella from a club close by, so it could be just bull, (notice use of the word apparently).

How's Vinny an inside man? He's a ballymacnab/Keady man!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 14, 2008, 09:15:43 AM
I belive they got a guy from Moortown.

After chatting to a mate from Moortown... he didn't impress in his own club!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 14, 2008, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: john mcgill on January 11, 2008, 06:54:49 PM
Illdecide, is Barry McCabe still involved with the Clans.  I played with him in London in the twilight (actually the darkness) of my footballing time.  He was one of the fittest men I have ever met and a gentleman to boot.

No he's not involved with any of the teams in the Clans. He managed the senior team about 4 years ago for 1 year (the year we got relegated) but it wasn't his fault as he couldn't get a team down and players went AWOL on him, his biggest problem was he was too nice.

Agreed the man is a gentleman and there won't be to many men saying bad things about Barry McCabe and yes he was the fittest hoor i've ever met :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 14, 2008, 11:27:37 AM
McKenna Cup Review. Taken from Orchard County:
Having seen all three of Armaghs McKenna Cup games there are a number of things that concern me. I know its was no where close to a first team but still I think at times the tactics were poor. Against both Derry and St Marys Armagh choose have a spare man in front of the full back line - Mc Nulty against Derry and AOR against St Marys. It looked good when the ball was kicked into their hands however in bothgames it was the players they were supposed to be marking who were doing the damage. Today Niblock roamed the field on his own while AOR didnt seem to bother about him, he sprayed passes all over the place. Against Derry NcNultys man got man of the match.

Our half forward line is dropping to deep, i know old habits die hard but on Wednesday Night Swift came charging out with the ball and while on his on 45 meter line could only look up to see three Fermanagh men around him and not an Armagh forward within forty Meters !!!

Another issue which concerned me today was the speed which McNulty and McKeever got replaced both were clearly injured but it took 3 to 5 minutes to get them off. The St Marys goal came while McNulty was injured.

The McKenna Cup did deliver a number of positives:
1 Finian Moriarty was very good and developing into a strong defender and good leader
2 Ciaran McKeever is a real leader a class act he should be our No 6 For years
3 Paul McCaughey made a good impact today and deserves another chance
4 Kevin O'Rourke is a great prospect - took a few lovely scores - he is lively and strong and quick
5 Brain Mallon great to see him back and hopefully by the time of the championship he will be a full power
6 Gareth Swift looks to be a useful option

Anyone anything to add to this or to disagree with? Not much craic about this thread at the min!  :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 14, 2008, 11:57:06 AM
Quote2 Ciaran McKeever is a real leader a class act he should be our No 6 For years

A class act football wise yes, a great leader id say no as his temperament and tendency to stick knee/boot/fist into an opponent makes me think his leadership qualities aren't good. After all every great leader is a great role model. HOw many games out of 3 he play centre half back?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 14, 2008, 12:32:28 PM
Yesterday, for the first time in 3 matches, I saw an Armagh midfielder do well, it's just he happened to be playing for the opposition.  Gareth O'Neill did his chances do harm at all yesterday.  If we take the sole exercise of the McKenna cup to be unearthing new players, then who has furthered their cause?
For me, Kevin O'Rourke,Gregory Loughran,Stefan Forker (in glimpses),Gareth O'Neill, Nippy Swift deserve a few outings in the League to prove themselves. The others are all young players, for example Brian McCone did much better yesterday, and another year will bring them on further.
Really feel we need to hit the ground running in the League as the "easier" matches are at the start with home matches to Cavan and Roscommon sandwiching an away trip to Mullingar. We would want some momentum for the visit of the Dubs and the Cork men and a Saturday night trip to Meath. Could do without a repeat of the last two league campaigns where we were constantly under the cloud of relegation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 14, 2008, 12:50:14 PM
Quote from: mackers on January 14, 2008, 12:32:28 PM
If we take the sole exercise of the McKenna cup to be unearthing new players, then who has furthered their cause?
For me, Kevin O'Rourke,Gregory Loughran,Stefan Forker (in glimpses),Gareth O'Neill, Nippy Swift deserve a few outings in the League to prove themselves.

IMO martin ferris also deserves a chance. I still feel that Stefan lacks something needed to make it just yet at senior county level but just cant put my finger exactly on what it is. Gareth Oneill could make a great impact to armagh defence/midfield.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 14, 2008, 01:13:31 PM
Yes Gareth O'Neill a serious contender for a midfield spot, would like to see him play along side paul mc grance once or twice to see what happens then.  He is also an option at full forward where he Can cause a lot of bother for a full back if need be with the long ball option and the likes of Stevie around him to pick up the breaking ball.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 14, 2008, 01:38:20 PM
i would also add gerard mccoy to the list of new lads to have impressed!
From watching the two games at lurgan a numbers of points i would make are that first of all those conditions will not have helped anyone trying to make an impact. 
I thought liam o hare did rightly yesterday as well as ferris. o'rourke and mckeever added alot of stability to the defence, however mcnulty has been shocking, he seems to have accected that his man will win every ball and then he will try and taclke him.  Every time the ball was played in his man was so far out in front that he had time to receive the ball, turn and get a bit of steam up running back to goals.
I think g loughran has been very good in his outings, i take it by the fact he wasnt on yesterday that he has done enuf to stay on the panel.
Mallon is also gunna be a big plus for us this year, a half forward who can carry the ball with speed at the defence is wat has been missing fro a wile.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 14, 2008, 02:02:47 PM
Both teams lined out as follows...

Armagh: C McKinney, B Shannon, E McNulty, F Moriarty, C McKeever, A O'Rourke, M Ferris, M Quinn, B Donaghy, L O'Hare, P McGaughey (1-2), P McKeever (0-2, both frees), B McCone, S Forker (0-1), K O'Rourke (1-2, one free). Subs: G Reel for Mc Nulty, B Mallon for C Mc Keever, M O'Rourke for O'Hare, P Loughran for Quinn.

St Mary's: B Marron, G Smyth, M Digney,
K O'Boyle, M Murray, S O'Neill, B Og Maguire, N McVeigh (0-1), G 0' Neill (0-1), McGoldrick, K Niblock, J McCormack (1-0), R Hamill, M Pollock (0-1), P Carvill (0-6, five frees). Subs: P Keenan (0-1) for Hamill, S Donaghy for McCormack, L McQuade for McGoldrick.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 14, 2008, 02:24:20 PM
Hank, I can see where you're coming from with your comments although what I would say is Enda has been poor over the last couple of League campaigns but seemed to up the performance in the Championship.
I should have included Gerard in the list earlier.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 14, 2008, 02:54:04 PM
So players should all know by tonite then who has made it and who hasn't. Should be interesting  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 14, 2008, 03:47:32 PM
If the truth be told most of them will be expecting the chop although only a small few will do so. I wonder will he keep Austin (with the leg break)

Clans are entering the Ulster league this year, what about the rest of ya?? Is there  any other club teams in Armagh playing in it this year????? I personaly think its better than pre-season friendlys although sometimes the early travelling on a Sunday morning is a bit rough
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on January 14, 2008, 03:55:57 PM
I thought John Mc Cormack got a point as well yesterday.  He did well I thought considering it was his second match of the day albeit the first one was not a competitive fixture.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 14, 2008, 04:06:25 PM
Harps are entering the Ulster league, although personally I wouldn't bother with it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on January 14, 2008, 04:18:08 PM
Have to disagree with you there Benny, although the competition is not the shinning light the Ulster Council wanted it to be, it gives you competitive games which are organised for you and a ref laid on for you, rather having to arrange friendlies that now have to go through Croke Park clearence and arrange your own official. Also gives the lads experience of playing clubs from other counties
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 14, 2008, 04:19:56 PM
ach spirit welcome back kid, is this just a flying visit??? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on January 14, 2008, 04:22:10 PM
Aye just popped in to say hello, you still working hard I see!!!1 ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 14, 2008, 04:26:03 PM
of course kid, of course!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 14, 2008, 10:40:16 PM
In other news, the St Patrick's GFC AGM took place last night. Amongst other business, the 2008 committee was elected including a new chairman. I'm sure you'll all join with me in wishing them all the best for the year to come.

There are a limited number of 2008 St Pat's calendars still available commemorating our unprecedented success on the field during 2007. Anybody wishing to snap up a calendar, please PM me. Apparently our neighbours from Forde's Cross were planning a similar initiative however, with 1 successful team picture per month, their committee felt such a calendar wouldn't have enough material to reach into the Spring. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on January 14, 2008, 11:10:53 PM
I suppose January's photo is of one of the you know whos being caught with their fingers in the till. 
Enjoy your success at underage.  Arthur Guinness and Johnny Jameson will ensure that as usual it doesn't translate to senior.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 14, 2008, 11:19:08 PM
QuoteI suppose January's photo is of one of the you know whos being caught with their fingers in the till.
Enjoy your success at underage.  Arthur Guinness and Johnny Jameson will ensure that as usual it doesn't translate to senior.

Ah Seany, the fact that I've annoyed you enough to make you post that narky reply makes it all worthwhile  :)

Senior team is on the up - best league record in Armagh in 2007. Thanks for your concern.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 15, 2008, 08:23:33 AM
any word on casualties for the county team last night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on January 15, 2008, 09:20:26 AM
Was everyone told last night at a meeting or something?

Suely there could not have been too many cuts with the Cross men still unavailable?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on January 15, 2008, 09:29:01 AM
When are the league fixtures published?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 15, 2008, 09:31:45 AM
Quote from: High Catch on January 15, 2008, 09:20:26 AM
Was everyone told last night at a meeting or something?

Suely there could not have been too many cuts with the Cross men still unavailable?

As far as i know there was a few people sittin on egg shells waiting for the dreaded call
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 15, 2008, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on January 15, 2008, 09:31:45 AM
Quote from: High Catch on January 15, 2008, 09:20:26 AM
Was everyone told last night at a meeting or something?

Suely there could not have been too many cuts with the Cross men still unavailable?

As far as i know there was a few people sittin on egg shells waiting for the dreaded call

Send McCoy a text & find out!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 15, 2008, 11:52:03 AM
lol McCoy's safe enough for the time being I'd say
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on January 15, 2008, 12:06:56 PM
Paul keenan is gone
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on January 15, 2008, 12:28:27 PM
Where did you hear that Sean?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 15, 2008, 12:29:06 PM
Quote from: BenDover on January 15, 2008, 11:52:03 AM
lol McCoy's safe enough for the time being I'd say

your right Ben.  He's safe for the minute, as is shorty.  Haven't heard any other reports
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 15, 2008, 12:30:44 PM
diesel smuggler and arm mhacha abu won't be happy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on January 15, 2008, 12:50:37 PM
Just heard it.  I haven't heard about anyone else tho.  Is it a further sign of a shift away from big men and towards speed and nippiness?  Paul Keenan is a good lad imo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 15, 2008, 01:37:40 PM
Quote from: ardmhaca08 on January 15, 2008, 01:23:01 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on January 15, 2008, 12:29:06 PM
your right Ben.  He's safe for the minute, as is shorty.  Haven't heard any other reports

Has shorty been kept on panel?? Forker and k.orourk are still there also.

yes shorty is still on the panel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 15, 2008, 03:45:06 PM
There's another cut after the national league, so hopefully these new boys get a chance to play alongside some of the more experienced players to we see if they really have got what it takes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 15, 2008, 03:59:10 PM

Having been at all 3 McKenna Cup games, it's very dficult to draw accurate conclusions due to the conditions and the personnel.
however i'd say the following:

Worries:

no young lads grasped the nettle.
Midfield without McGrane will be a trouble spot
full back remains a problem
McNulty struggled very badly in all three games against three different types of forward.
No obvious scoring talent at this level is emerging

Up in the air:

vernon, courtney, o'rorke, lavery & o'neill are possibly the best equipped to break through but haven't been seen with the established crew. only one scoring forward there though.
toner may be the best bet for full back but is unavailable for now.

positives:

there were flashes of potential and certainly encouragement from g loughran, moriarty and swift.
a o'rourke established that he can compete well and strentghen dfensive options.
all of our scoring guns are yet to tog out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 15, 2008, 04:06:09 PM
Quote from: Uladh on January 15, 2008, 03:59:10 PM

no young lads grasped the nettle.
No obvious scoring talent at this level is emerging

IMO your very wrong i thought the likes of forker did extra well and are more than capable of a score or two!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 15, 2008, 04:09:24 PM

on the contrary, forker was my real hope going into the McKenna cup for a scoring forward but i thought he was very poor. difficult to score when you can't hold onto the ball. alarm bell were ringing when he wasn't claimed by the poly for the competition.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 15, 2008, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: Uladh on January 15, 2008, 04:09:24 PM
alarm bell were ringing when he wasn't claimed by the poly for the competition.

True! I have alot of time for the young lads coming up through. Paul Mcaughey did well on sunday along with KO'R whom i thought did extra well! Good to see these lads getting another chance!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 15, 2008, 04:18:09 PM
Killeavy GAC is delighted to announce the first Armagh Sevens tournament on Easter Saturday 22nd March, sponsored by Best Rate Bureau. Having enjoyed several of these tournaments in Kilmacud and Castlewellan over the last number of years, we are keen to run a sevens competition in Armagh, where this format of the game hasn't seen nearly as much of the limelight as it has in other counties.


In the inaugural year, we are seeking to run the competition between sixteen to twenty teams, primarily from county Armagh. Our initial invite is to each team in the top two divisions, and depending on uptake we may extend invitations to other Armagh clubs or clubs beyond the county.

We feel the competition should be a fun occasion for Armagh Gaels, and a good uptake on invitations should lead to another meaningful competition for Armagh GAA, with the winning team gaining valuable prestige and bragging rights for their club. It should also provide valuable preparation for the upcoming leagues.

We are delighted that this competition has been endorsed by Coiste Contae Ard Mhacha and official referees will be presiding over the fixtures. Normal county disciplinary procedures will come into play if required.
We believe this is an excellent opportunity for Gaels in Armagh to add another important date to the county GAA calendar, and would urge clubs to enter a team for the inaugural competition.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 15, 2008, 06:23:23 PM
Quote from: Seany on January 15, 2008, 12:06:56 PM
Paul keenan is gone

how can a player be cut when they haven't even featured in the orange jersey yet this year. seems strange but time will tell who's there or not. i'd imagine there will be boys in and out again and vice versa in the early stages of the league. especially with the university boys being eligible to play now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on January 15, 2008, 06:49:37 PM
uladh in response to your comment amount me being unhappy that couldn't be further from the truth!

in the last 3 years you could count on 2 hands how many games paul played for us and as a cruppen man first and foremost i am delighted that he will be back playing football for us on a regular basis!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on January 15, 2008, 06:53:46 PM
Quote from: Uladh on January 15, 2008, 04:09:24 PM

on the contrary, forker was my real hope going into the McKenna cup for a scoring forward but i thought he was very poor. difficult to score when you can't hold onto the ball. alarm bell were ringing when he wasn't claimed by the poly for the competition.
He was awful in Davitt Park
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 15, 2008, 09:44:09 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on January 15, 2008, 06:49:37 PM
uladh in response to your comment amount me being unhappy that couldn't be further from the truth!

in the last 3 years you could count on 2 hands how many games paul played for us and as a cruppen man first and foremost i am delighted that he will be back playing football for us on a regular basis!

well said D.S.. one thing for sure i'd have him on in front of mc cone and o rourke..dont know bout ferris just yet he's good going forward but going back not so good..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 15, 2008, 10:26:56 PM
which orourke are you talking about legs11?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 16, 2008, 10:25:28 AM

Young ferris didn't make it either from wat i hear.

how many does that make on the senior panel who are still u21?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 16, 2008, 12:02:14 PM
Quote from: Uladh on January 15, 2008, 04:09:24 PM

on the contrary, forker was my real hope going into the McKenna cup for a scoring forward but i thought he was very poor. difficult to score when you can't hold onto the ball. alarm bell were ringing when he wasn't claimed by the poly for the competition.

He played for UUJ 2nds v Queens 2nds before new year in the Ryan Cup B final, and although it was an awful day & conditions, he certainly didn't look county material that day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CelticWater on January 16, 2008, 03:06:37 PM
Gary Reel (Killeavy), Gerard McCreesh(Mullaghbawn), Paudie McCreesh(Cullyhanna), D.Edward(Ogs?) and Paul Keenan(Carriccruppen) all got dropped from the armagh panal any more?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 16, 2008, 03:39:40 PM
Quote from: CelticWater on January 16, 2008, 03:06:37 PM
Gary Reel (Killeavy), Gerard McCreesh(Mullaghbawn), Paudie McCreesh(Cullyhanna), D.Edward(Ogs?) and Paul Keenan(Carriccruppen) all got dropped from the armagh panal any more?

Insulting the Ogs like that tut tut, think D.Edward from Eire Og! You musta been thinking of Eddie Maguire  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 16, 2008, 03:41:21 PM
Now now the Goat wont be happy....  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 16, 2008, 05:59:22 PM
does anyone know exactly who's in or out? because as far as im aware there hasn't been a list published with an axact panel which will be used for the league... are the u21s joining the panel or being run seperarely because i'd say any of these lads will all be in with a chance of making the seniors as mcdonnell is looking after them aswel..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on January 16, 2008, 06:20:56 PM
Press release tonight. Irish News tomorrow.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on January 16, 2008, 06:24:59 PM
I don't think anyone knows  at this stage. Can't see how Paul Keenan could be dropped at this stage as he hasn't played under the new manager this year.
If he is it's a big boost for cruppens promo chances this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 16, 2008, 06:59:46 PM
Quote from: ardmhaca08 on January 15, 2008, 10:26:56 PM
which orourke are you talking about legs11?


Kevin.

i just think theres better forwards in the county but am sure dennis hollywood would have a big say in that matter!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 16, 2008, 07:27:01 PM
My advice to Paul Keenan would be to stick at it, and just get more angry. I'd like to see him scream, and charge and roar, instead of dandering around after he's laid the ball off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 16, 2008, 07:55:57 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on January 16, 2008, 06:59:46 PM
Quote from: ardmhaca08 on January 15, 2008, 10:26:56 PM
which orourke are you talking about legs11?


Kevin.

i just think theres better forwards in the county but am sure dennis hollywood would have a big say in that matter!

hollywood has nothing to do with anything like that. kevin o'rourke is a great prospect for armagh. he is strong, quick and very tenacious. definately one for the future and has more promise than forker imo. for the u21s last year he was making runs from start to finish both showing for the ball and tackling back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 17, 2008, 08:16:05 AM
Quote from: SouthArmaghBandit on January 16, 2008, 06:20:56 PM
Press release tonight. Irish News tomorrow.

Well anyone see it yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 17, 2008, 09:53:30 AM
Quote from: BenDover on January 16, 2008, 03:39:40 PM
Quote from: CelticWater on January 16, 2008, 03:06:37 PM
Gary Reel (Killeavy), Gerard McCreesh(Mullaghbawn), Paudie McCreesh(Cullyhanna), D.Edward(Ogs?) and Paul Keenan(Carriccruppen) all got dropped from the armagh panal any more?

Insulting the Ogs like that tut tut, think D.Edward from Eire Og! You musta been thinking of Eddie Maguire  :D :D

Lads all joke on the side that man D Edwards was brought on because Joe Brolly recommended him to McDonnell. I know he is playing in Belfast now with St Brigids but he wouldn't get on our club team and thats being honest. So how he got playing for Armagh in the McKenna cup and worse still paying £7 big ones into watch was worse :'( :'(.

I can understand giving them younger lads a game or two to try them out but Edwards is about 28 or 29 Fcuk me lads are retiring at that age never mind looking to start over
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on January 17, 2008, 09:59:36 AM
Just wondering, if any player showed a lot of potential now (as in January), would you still expect him to produce the goods come the summer.
Kerry don't give a rats ass until the summer and build up their training accordingly, so why are Ulster teams trying to produce top football in the winter.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: oiddas on January 17, 2008, 10:01:21 AM
Anyone know when the Armagh Championship draw takes place?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 17, 2008, 10:02:40 AM
I dont think Ulster teams (apart from the Universities) are worried about playing top class football at this stage, as shown by the likes of Armagh and Tyrone fielding very under strength teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on January 17, 2008, 10:07:38 AM
Quote from: gander on January 17, 2008, 10:02:40 AM
I dont think Ulster teams (apart from the Universities) are worried about playing top class football at this stage, as shown by the likes of Armagh and Tyrone fielding very under strength teams.

Yes maybe so but they are still training hard and I think they should be concentrating on skills rather than fitness at this stage of the season.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 10:08:54 AM
Illdecide, Now what club r u from?? Im just curious, i have been reading ur posts over the past few weeks, it seems like you should be the one bringing Armagh through this transitional period !!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 17, 2008, 10:12:45 AM
As far as I know the draw is next Monday night (21st)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 17, 2008, 11:20:01 AM
Quote from: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 10:08:54 AM
Illdecide, Now what club r u from?? Im just curious, i have been reading ur posts over the past few weeks, it seems like you should be the one bringing Armagh through this transitional period !!!!

Well i have been known to bring a few teams along and McDonnell could do worse that take me along side him ;) :D

Blue is the colour, that will limit your guess to what club I'm from ;) If you read back a bit further it will reveal all. there is no need for sarcasm during your process of loosing your virginity on the board. i was just stating fact that a lad who is not very good IMO (club or inter county) should be given another chance at the age of 28-29. If you don't agree thats fine thats what the board is for "discussion"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 11:33:01 AM
Quote from: illdecide on January 17, 2008, 11:20:01 AM
Quote from: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 10:08:54 AM
Illdecide, Now what club r u from?? Im just curious, i have been reading ur posts over the past few weeks, it seems like you should be the one bringing Armagh through this transitional period !!!!

Well i have been known to bring a few teams along and McDonnell could do worse that take me along side him ;) :D

Blue is the colour, that will limit your guess to what club I'm from ;) If you read back a bit further it will reveal all. there is no need for sarcasm during your process of loosing your virginity on the board. i was just stating fact that a lad who is not very good IMO (club or inter county) should be given another chance at the age of 28-29. If you don't agree thats fine thats what the board is for "discussion"

I have to laugh at this cyber Bravado u try and portray illdecide, I think the expexctation levels within armagh are too high, whenever a team had been together for years ( i.e 2002 ), there is going to come a time whenever the backbone to that team moves on or retires, so then its back to the drawings board to select and build on the talent that is coming through!!!!! And so its begins all over again, to try and get a bunch of fellas all wanting the same goal and are prepared to sacrifice anything, Sometimes especially on this site, supposed Armagh gaels think its there god given right to expect silverware year in year out!!! It really doesn't work like that!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on January 17, 2008, 11:34:08 AM
You have to remeber too that there will be a few call-ups from Cross, young McKenna will strengthen the midfield options
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 17, 2008, 11:45:22 AM
Quote from: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 11:33:01 AM
I have to laugh at this cyber Bravado u try and portray illdecide,

::)
You could accuse many other posters of this but not illdecide
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 17, 2008, 11:53:04 AM
Quote from: thebandit on January 17, 2008, 11:34:08 AM
You have to remeber too that there will be a few call-ups from Cross, young McKenna will strengthen the midfield options

i don't he'll county at senior level yet. he has a fair bit of developing to do. the likes of lavery and o'neill have been far better at club level and they'd be well behind mcgrane and loughran in my book.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on January 17, 2008, 12:22:25 PM
Quote from: Uladh on January 17, 2008, 11:53:04 AM
Quote from: thebandit on January 17, 2008, 11:34:08 AM
You have to remeber too that there will be a few call-ups from Cross, young McKenna will strengthen the midfield options

i don't he'll county at senior level yet. he has a fair bit of developing to do. the likes of lavery and o'neill have been far better at club level and they'd be well behind mcgrane and loughran in my book.

I would definitely put James Lavery ahead of Loughran.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 17, 2008, 12:25:45 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on January 16, 2008, 06:59:46 PM
Kevin.

i just think theres better forwards in the county but am sure dennis hollywood would have a big say in that matter!

Have to disagree with you legs!! Dennis Hollywood is a coach for the armagh senior panel therefore would have no say in the picking of the team.  ::) So who are the better forwards in the county apart from the obvious mcdonnell, clarke? IMO opinion Kevin O'Rourke is a gutsy wee footballer, who tries really hard and as for the amount of tracking back he does. He's showing better than any forward at the minute. And has tried hard in the three mckenna cup games when he was given the chance. Agree with you QUB on the U21s also!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 17, 2008, 12:30:16 PM
I would put Toner ahead of Lavery as well though, seen him a right rew times last year and he was great.  Although I dont know when he's coming back from Austrailia or where he'll be playing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 17, 2008, 12:33:56 PM
Was actually talking to a lad from Granemore last night and he was sayin toner loves it out there and wont be returning for another while yet! dunno how true that is. But he would be a great boost this year. Went down last nite to watch u21 game in louth. Some promising footballers coming up through. However it was hard to tell last night as Peter was making loads of changes obviously just to try different lads out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 17, 2008, 12:38:37 PM
Paul Courtney could turn out to be the best MF option of our current young hopefuls(probably teh most under rated), very good last night v Antrim for QUB, I hope he gets a run inthe NFL, is he still U21 this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on January 17, 2008, 12:42:52 PM
Benny, did Vernon play last night?  (sorry for dublicating the Q from the mainpage)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 17, 2008, 12:45:34 PM
Quote from: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 11:33:01 AM
Quote from: illdecide on January 17, 2008, 11:20:01 AM
Quote from: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 10:08:54 AM
Illdecide, Now what club r u from?? Im just curious, i have been reading ur posts over the past few weeks, it seems like you should be the one bringing Armagh through this transitional period !!!!

Well i have been known to bring a few teams along and McDonnell could do worse that take me along side him ;) :D

Blue is the colour, that will limit your guess to what club I'm from ;) If you read back a bit further it will reveal all. there is no need for sarcasm during your process of loosing your virginity on the board. i was just stating fact that a lad who is not very good IMO (club or inter county) should be given another chance at the age of 28-29. If you don't agree thats fine thats what the board is for "discussion"

I have to laugh at this cyber Bravado u try and portray illdecide, I think the expexctation levels within armagh are too high, whenever a team had been together for years ( i.e 2002 ), there is going to come a time whenever the backbone to that team moves on or retires, so then its back to the drawings board to select and build on the talent that is coming through!!!!! And so its begins all over again, to try and get a bunch of fellas all wanting the same goal and are prepared to sacrifice anything, Sometimes especially on this site, supposed Armagh gaels think its there god given right to expect silverware year in year out!!! It really doesn't work like that!!!

Well then Napolean you just go ahead and have a laugh ;) :D :D cause i'm having one too :D :D. If you read my post correct then you'd know that i had/have nothing against the young ones getting their chance how else would we find out if they can cut it or not, it's the elder folk that i disagree with getting their chance who have already been tried before and failed and are not even good club players. I wolud say most people on the board would agree with that.

So wind your neck in son ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on January 17, 2008, 12:50:04 PM
Just spotted this report on Hogan.  Benny, I presume from your report Courtney was more impressive at mid-field than Vernon?
Queen's impressed as they rattled over a total of nine points.  I see O'Rourke got 2 pts.

Queen's make Antrim bow the knee
17 January 2008


Queen's University, Belfast gave Antrim's footballers a lesson when steering their way to a deserved 0-16 to 1-11 Dr. McKenna Cup win at Casement Park.

The result propelled Queen's level with Cavan at the top of the group but they miss out on scoring average.

Antrim did most of their best work during a two minute blitz when they notched 1-3 with Conor Murray netting in fine style to help them on their way to a 1-7 to 0-7 half-tie lead.

On the resumption, Murray added another point but Antrim's form then took a nosedive which was in stark contrast to Queen's sterling finish to the game.


Queen's - F Murphy, N Bogue, L Howard, H Gallagher, D O'Neill, J O'Kane, J Crozier 0-1, C Vernon 0-1, P Courtney 0-1, A Gallagher, M O'Rourke 0-2, G McGinn 0-1, P McComiskey 0-6, K Kelly 0-2, M Ward 0-1. Subs - J Grimley for O'Rourke, S Burke for O'Neill, J Ireland 0-1 for Gallagher, R O'Neill for Ward.

Antrim - J Finucane, T Scullion, P Doherty, A McLean, P Close 0-1, S Kelly, T Convery, J Quinn, K McGourty 0-1, T O'Neill, M McCann 0-4, G Crossey 0-1, C Murray 1-2, C Totten, N Doyle 0-1. Subs - P Cpnlon for McLean, C McGoldrick for Convery, D O'Hagan for Clone, N McKeever for McGourty.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 17, 2008, 12:45:34 PM
Quote from: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 11:33:01 AM
Quote from: illdecide on January 17, 2008, 11:20:01 AM
Quote from: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 10:08:54 AM
Illdecide, Now what club r u from?? Im just curious, i have been reading ur posts over the past few weeks, it seems like you should be the one bringing Armagh through this transitional period !!!!

Well i have been known to bring a few teams along and McDonnell could do worse that take me along side him ;) :D

Blue is the colour, that will limit your guess to what club I'm from ;) If you read back a bit further it will reveal all. there is no need for sarcasm during your process of loosing your virginity on the board. i was just stating fact that a lad who is not very good IMO (club or inter county) should be given another chance at the age of 28-29. If you don't agree thats fine thats what the board is for "discussion"

I have to laugh at this cyber Bravado u try and portray illdecide, I think the expexctation levels within armagh are too high, whenever a team had been together for years ( i.e 2002 ), there is going to come a time whenever the backbone to that team moves on or retires, so then its back to the drawings board to select and build on the talent that is coming through!!!!! And so its begins all over again, to try and get a bunch of fellas all wanting the same goal and are prepared to sacrifice anything, Sometimes especially on this site, supposed Armagh gaels think its there god given right to expect silverware year in year out!!! It really doesn't work like that!!!

Well then Napolean you just go ahead and have a laugh ;) :D :D cause i'm having one too :D :D. If you read my post correct then you'd know that i had/have nothing against the young ones getting their chance how else would we find out if they can cut it or not, it's the elder folk that i disagree with getting their chance who have already been tried before and failed and are not even good club players. I wolud say most people on the board would agree with that.

So wind your neck in son ::) ::)

Illdecide, in your well respected opinion, could you tell me what u think constitutes a good club player??? Because in all honestly i think you haven't got a clue!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Broken_Cross on January 17, 2008, 01:58:01 PM
For those of you had had £7 on Sunday, should Paul Carville have been wearing an orange jersey?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 17, 2008, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 17, 2008, 12:38:37 PM
Paul Courtney could turn out to be the best MF option of our current young hopefuls(probably teh most under rated), very good last night v Antrim for QUB, I hope he gets a run inthe NFL, is he still U21 this year?

Nah, he was 21 before the new year. He's a gutsy lad, who'll give his all.

An all Ballyhegan Midfield for the county would be some feit for our club. (It would also be a dissaster!!)

I'd imagine Paul would be behind Lavery in the queue for Floppy's midfield partner though.

QuoteFor those of you had had £7 on Sunday, should Paul Carville have been wearing an orange jersey?

Regardless of his size... Armagh need scoring forwards!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 17, 2008, 02:10:38 PM
Quote from: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 17, 2008, 12:45:34 PM
Quote from: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 11:33:01 AM
Quote from: illdecide on January 17, 2008, 11:20:01 AM
Quote from: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 10:08:54 AM
Illdecide, Now what club r u from?? Im just curious, i have been reading ur posts over the past few weeks, it seems like you should be the one bringing Armagh through this transitional period !!!!

Well i have been known to bring a few teams along and McDonnell could do worse that take me along side him ;) :D

Blue is the colour, that will limit your guess to what club I'm from ;) If you read back a bit further it will reveal all. there is no need for sarcasm during your process of loosing your virginity on the board. i was just stating fact that a lad who is not very good IMO (club or inter county) should be given another chance at the age of 28-29. If you don't agree thats fine thats what the board is for "discussion"

I have to laugh at this cyber Bravado u try and portray illdecide, I think the expexctation levels within armagh are too high, whenever a team had been together for years ( i.e 2002 ), there is going to come a time whenever the backbone to that team moves on or retires, so then its back to the drawings board to select and build on the talent that is coming through!!!!! And so its begins all over again, to try and get a bunch of fellas all wanting the same goal and are prepared to sacrifice anything, Sometimes especially on this site, supposed Armagh gaels think its there god given right to expect silverware year in year out!!! It really doesn't work like that!!!

Well then Napolean you just go ahead and have a laugh ;) :D :D cause i'm having one too :D :D. If you read my post correct then you'd know that i had/have nothing against the young ones getting their chance how else would we find out if they can cut it or not, it's the elder folk that i disagree with getting their chance who have already been tried before and failed and are not even good club players. I wolud say most people on the board would agree with that.

So wind your neck in son ::) ::)

Illdecide, in your well respected opinion, could you tell me what u think constitutes a good club player??? Because in all honestly i think you haven't got a clue!!

There you go thats that sorted "i don't have a clue". ::) ::) Can you tell the difference between a good player and a bad one ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 17, 2008, 02:11:13 PM
Paul Carville is a decent club player but imo he wouldn't make it at county standard. What we have to remember is the fact that the standard of football at this early stage and some of the oponents are not up to scratch so it would be easier for some avergae players who have kept themselves fit over the winter to shine. Carville would fit into this bracket but i would say that if he were playing against a kerry side or any half decent senior team he would be very quiet. I'll decide would you stop indulging in that cyber bravado  :D :D :D :D :D :D This is the best laugh i have had in a while.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 02:13:53 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 17, 2008, 02:10:38 PM
Quote from: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 01:00:37 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 17, 2008, 12:45:34 PM
Quote from: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 11:33:01 AM
Quote from: illdecide on January 17, 2008, 11:20:01 AM
Quote from: Napolean on January 17, 2008, 10:08:54 AM
Illdecide, Now what club r u from?? Im just curious, i have been reading ur posts over the past few weeks, it seems like you should be the one bringing Armagh through this transitional period !!!!

Well i have been known to bring a few teams along and McDonnell could do worse that take me along side him ;) :D

Blue is the colour, that will limit your guess to what club I'm from ;) If you read back a bit further it will reveal all. there is no need for sarcasm during your process of loosing your virginity on the board. i was just stating fact that a lad who is not very good IMO (club or inter county) should be given another chance at the age of 28-29. If you don't agree thats fine thats what the board is for "discussion"

I have to laugh at this cyber Bravado u try and portray illdecide, I think the expexctation levels within armagh are too high, whenever a team had been together for years ( i.e 2002 ), there is going to come a time whenever the backbone to that team moves on or retires, so then its back to the drawings board to select and build on the talent that is coming through!!!!! And so its begins all over again, to try and get a bunch of fellas all wanting the same goal and are prepared to sacrifice anything, Sometimes especially on this site, supposed Armagh gaels think its there god given right to expect silverware year in year out!!! It really doesn't work like that!!!

Well then Napolean you just go ahead and have a laugh ;) :D :D cause i'm having one too :D :D. If you read my post correct then you'd know that i had/have nothing against the young ones getting their chance how else would we find out if they can cut it or not, it's the elder folk that i disagree with getting their chance who have already been tried before and failed and are not even good club players. I wolud say most people on the board would agree with that.

So wind your neck in son ::) ::)

Illdecide, in your well respected opinion, could you tell me what u think constitutes a good club player??? Because in all honestly i think you haven't got a clue!!

There you go thats that sorted "i don't have a clue". ::) ::) Can you tell the difference between a good player and a bad one ???


Nah i couldn't tell you the difference, but in saying that i have never gave a direct opinion as too who was good enough for the county and who wasn't!!
I'll just leave it at that!!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 17, 2008, 04:33:05 PM
Napolean you would be safer leaving it at that because i can hear the boys in Dromintee laughing from here and wait till the silverbridge boys get ribbing ya  :D :D :D. Please stop writing in the quotation form aswell.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 17, 2008, 06:14:25 PM
go away napolean. only on and the heads away with it with all this quotation crap.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 17, 2008, 06:17:04 PM
i think lavery should be given a run in the side come league time. i've always seen both vernon and courtney as half back/half forwards, but both have good hands and are strong lads. will be interesting to see who steps up to make their mark. very early in the year though. and sigerson will be first and foremost for these lasds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 17, 2008, 08:20:03 PM
QuoteJust spotted this report on Hogan.  Benny, I presume from your report Courtney was more impressive at midfield than Vernon?

Thought Vernon was the more impressive of the two myself. Would expect Charlie to play a prominent part for Armagh in the league and championship. I've watched Courtney for Queens this past few years - a good footballer, decent lad and very hardworking but I'm not fit he's up to county standard. Vernon is the better prospect I think.

Interesting to see Paul Carville featuring again. Is he long back from England? I remember him absolutely destroying us in a county final as an u16.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 17, 2008, 09:15:34 PM
Naoplean Illdecide told you he was a blue ok, a Dromintee man through and through so lay off.

Vernon definetely the better prospect, plenty of talent coming through in Armagh Football. Can not understand people thinking Armagh football is doomed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on January 17, 2008, 09:38:43 PM
Did paul courtney play in goals for armagh minors  4 or 5 years ago ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Against the Breeze on January 17, 2008, 09:47:10 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 17, 2008, 12:38:37 PM
Paul Courtney could turn out to be the best MF option of our current young hopefuls(probably the most under rated), very good last night v Antrim for QUB, I hope he gets a run in the NFL, is he still U21 this year?

What game were you watching last night? Midfield were QUB was anonymous for  80% of the game with the only one shining round the middle was Aodhan Gallaghar.  They wouldn't be my first choice in running for Partnering McGrane.  From Sunday I would think McDonnell would strongly be considering O'Neill but its only January and there is a lot of fooball to be played between now and June. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 17, 2008, 10:38:56 PM
Lavery and O'Neill are probably the 2 in line for a run in midfield during the league. I'd say Vernon is more likely to end up in the half backs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on January 17, 2008, 11:10:17 PM
Vernon looks a very decent player and should have a long career ahead of him with a bit of luck.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 18, 2008, 08:41:59 AM
id agree with against the breeze in that after sundays performance mcDonnell is bound to be thinkn about trying ONeill around midfield. Lavery should also be given a good rattle at it during the league but i dont think courtney or vernon are there yet!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 18, 2008, 09:34:06 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 17, 2008, 09:15:34 PM
Naoplean Illdecide told you he was a blue ok, a Dromintee man through and through so lay off.

Vernon definetely the better prospect, plenty of talent coming through in Armagh Football. Can not understand people thinking Armagh football is doomed.

Thanks Lads for the back up. Blue is the colour ;)

The sad thing about this extra mid-field slot is that most of the lads mentioned seem to be on par with each other but still a gear below McGrane, hopefully as some of you have mentioned that someone will step up to the plate and grasp that position. I personaly am not sure i thought Lavery might have it in him but i marked him last year and to be honest i expected more from him (but then again he prob looked at me and thought "f**k i won't have much to do today" ;) :D)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 18, 2008, 09:39:46 AM
Quote from: crossfire on January 17, 2008, 09:38:43 PM
Did paul courtney play in goals for armagh minors  4 or 5 years ago ?

Yeah he played nets in his 1st year on the minor's  - then full back on his second year. By the time the u21s came round he was playing midfield & half forwards.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 18, 2008, 09:51:35 AM
Quote from: Against the Breeze on January 17, 2008, 09:47:10 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 17, 2008, 12:38:37 PM
Paul Courtney could turn out to be the best MF option of our current young hopefuls(probably the most under rated), very good last night v Antrim for QUB, I hope he gets a run in the NFL, is he still U21 this year?

What game were you watching last night? Midfield were QUB was anonymous for  80% of the game with the only one shining round the middle was Aodhan Gallaghar.  They wouldn't be my first choice in running for Partnering McGrane.  From Sunday I would think McDonnell would strongly be considering O'Neill but its only January and there is a lot of fooball to be played between now and June. 
If u read the wee report I gave on the game you might actually see what I wrote.  The Courtney thing is a general statement, although I thought he did an awful lot of work v Antrim.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 18, 2008, 10:04:40 AM

In terms of out and out midfielders it'd be my opinion that O'Neill is at the head of the quartet. he has the capacity to field some great high ball. that said, there is much more to playing midfield than catching kickouts. vernon is the best all round footballer and i'd go with him alongside mcgrane through the league. looking at mcdonnell's selections though i'd guess he'll use vernon at wing forward. lavery is certainly a talented big fella but strikes me as a lazy fecker during games. courtney seems to have a big appetite for work and a great knack at winning ball but his distribution might let him down at that level. he'll probably be a wing forward at county level too.

Loughran will have to be given the opportunity to prove he can produce the goods ahead of all of those lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tintin25 on January 18, 2008, 10:15:13 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 17, 2008, 09:15:34 PM
Naoplean Illdecide told you he was a blue ok, a Dromintee man through and through so lay off.

Vernon definetely the better prospect, plenty of talent coming through in Armagh Football. Can not understand people thinking Armagh football is doomed.

Was at the Queens/Antrim game as a neutral. Have to say that Vernon looked pretty ordinary...trying to run through boys and going no-where. Might have been able to do that at U16 level but not county. Courtney looked the better of the two. I was impressed by O'Rourke who was operating at centre forward though...anyone know if he is pushing for a county position?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Glensman on January 18, 2008, 10:35:24 AM
Outsider joining in to make a comment...and then slip back to the relative peace of the fun loving Antrim section.

Round this time of the the year with the January depression on I try and ease the pain by looking forward to summer of hurling and the lesser sport football by having a sniff round and seeing what other counties are up to and how their preparations are going.

I can safely say (though no doubt my comment will be shouted down) that the Armagh section is the most personal and selective thread. You wouldn't really want to be one of these players on the fringes who get villified for playing sh1te, not being at the races, being nowhere near ready when all they are doing is slogging their guts out in the cold and rain (probably more likely in the gym with Swiss balls and personal trainers) trying to make an impact for their county who they would love to make the squad for let alone play for.

I have played with a couple of the players who are being discussed. Vernon for one is a class act, a gentleman and has the potential to be some footballer as he has the best attitude I have ever seen. And some of the others are dedicated gaels who have made sacrifices to get them where they are.

Armagh are a quality footballing county who are arguably having a few lean years and rebuilding after Geezer and a few others departed the scene - why the f*ck would anyone bust their balls training if they even read one page of the stuff here. Most regular posters will know how much this site is viewed by people who don't post given the air time is has received recently.

I'm all for calling a spade a spade, when a player plays badly its our job as supporters to say so but I just leave it there.

Anyhow...almost the weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on January 18, 2008, 10:35:51 AM
When Corss' campaign is over are Martin Aherne, Paul McKeown and Tony Kernan likely to get a run in senior colours?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 18, 2008, 10:42:21 AM
Thanks for that Glensman. now don't let the door hit you on the way back to your own thread of low expectations.

I'm led to believe there'll be 9 Cross men on the county panel this year -

Hearty
Bellew
Kernan
Kernan
Kernan
Kernan
McKeown
McKenna
McConville
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on January 18, 2008, 11:07:35 AM
Cheers, Uladh, your sources are usually quite sound.

He ain't heavy, he my brother.

I like the cut of young McKeown's gib, and I'd have Tony in the forward line long before Stephen. Paul seems a solid performer, but hard to say how he'd perform regularly among inter-county players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 18, 2008, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: Uladh on January 18, 2008, 10:42:21 AM
Hearty
Bellew
Kernan
Kernan
Kernan
Kernan
McKeown
McKenna
McConville

Which Mc Keown uladh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 18, 2008, 11:19:33 AM
Lads was speaking To County chairman last night in the club and i asked him was the draw still on for Monday he said it is supposed to be but out of the 40 clubs only 22 so far have applied for championship football. WTF, so does the other 18 clubs not want to play championship?

Obviously the draw will not take place on Monday unless the rest of the 18 apply before then. Maybe this is the new way to beat Crossmaglen, rip up their application for the championship and throw them out ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 18, 2008, 11:27:51 AM
Quote from: full back on January 18, 2008, 11:10:59 AM
Which Mc Keown uladh?

The wing back - Skinny?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bud on January 18, 2008, 11:47:53 AM
Quote from: Imposerous on January 18, 2008, 11:07:35 AM
Cheers, Uladh, your sources are usually quite sound.

Uladh who were your sources saying Martin Ferris was off the panel.
Not true as far as i'm aware.

In fairness to Glensman.  He is correct - does be some shit wrote aboout players on here.
Can you really try and judge them on their playing ability at this time of the year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 18, 2008, 11:59:51 AM

So there should be a period of discussion prohibition between november and april?

Like it or not these players have to prove their worth now, in whatever conditions prevail. McDonnell has to judge them now after all. personal abuse is obviously wrong but the playing capabilities and potential of all players are fair game. tough love most of the time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 18, 2008, 12:24:16 PM
Glensman used Charlie Vernon as an example of players being criticised, I think all posters here would like to see Charlie in our championship team so I think he's picked a bad example. Can't remember any Armagh poster criticising Charlie (why would we?), the debate is to where he would be best used on the team, surely that's fair enough.  Tintin criticised him in a post there, I stand to be corrected but I don't think he's an Armagh poster.

Uladh, surely Paul McKeown would be the better prospect given his better performances in the Ulster campaign for Cross. He also plays in a positon that we could be doing with some cover in, Skinny is a wing back and i think that's one area that we are relatively strong in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 18, 2008, 12:27:28 PM

Don't shoot the messanger!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on January 18, 2008, 12:29:32 PM
Quote from: Uladh on January 18, 2008, 11:27:51 AM
Quote from: full back on January 18, 2008, 11:10:59 AM
Which Mc Keown uladh?

The wing back - Skinny?

No, I'd say its Paul McKeown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 18, 2008, 12:32:23 PM

It's not - It's skinny all right. i think paul would be on the u21 panel?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 18, 2008, 12:49:39 PM
Definitely Skinny.  I had heard that back when McDonnell tokk over that he was being brought onto the panel.  I think it is well deserved given his improvement over the recent year.  He is well capable of slotting into corner back as well as half back.  Paul will be on the u 21's and is still developing.  He has the potential to be a serious senior footballer and although I may be biased he is definitely worth a shout in the near future.

No doubt there will be complaints about the amount of Cross players on the panel but at the end of the day others are getting their chance so if they don't take it now they have only themselves to blame.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 18, 2008, 01:09:10 PM
it cud be even more, i think the mcentee still have alot to offer Armagh if they were persuaded to come back and ahern and mcnamee are as good if not better than most we seen so far for armagh in the mckenna cup! how many wud that have been on the panel?!?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on January 18, 2008, 03:59:28 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on January 18, 2008, 01:09:10 PM
it cud be even more, i think the mcentee still have alot to offer Armagh if they were persuaded to come back and ahern and mcnamee are as good if not better than most we seen so far for armagh in the mckenna cup! how many wud that have been on the panel?!?!

Whats the chances of the McEntees giving it one last lash?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Against the Breeze on January 18, 2008, 04:56:22 PM
Yes I would think it is that McKeown. Would be fair to say that Brendan McKeown is the best defender/ man marker Cross have?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on January 18, 2008, 06:55:02 PM
Skinny is no bad player alright, deserves a run.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 19, 2008, 02:36:32 AM
Quoteit'd be my opinion that O'Neill is at the head of the quartet. he has the capacity to field some great high ball. that said, there is much more to playing midfield than catching kickouts. Vernon is the best all round footballer and I'd go with him alongside mcgrane through the league. looking at mcdonnell's selections though I'd guess he'll use Vernon at wing forward. lavery is certainly a talented big fella but strikes me as a lazy fecker during games. Courtney seems to have a big appetite for work and a great knack at winning ball but his distribution might let him down at that level.

All fair enough points Uladh although I think Vernon is more naturally a half back. I'd like to see him given a run at right half back. Lavery and O'Neill should both be given a run at midfield in the league with the more impressive playing along McGrane in the championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 19, 2008, 09:54:55 AM
Where will Ciaran Toner fit in when (if) he gets back from Austrailia?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 19, 2008, 10:10:01 AM
Pushing for the team no doubt. Thought Lavery was unfortunate not to start ahead of him in the chmapionship last year although Toner took his chance well. Lavery might be the better option in the long term I think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on January 20, 2008, 12:04:12 AM
Any truth in the rumour that Cross are playing the Antrim team in a friendly today (Sunday 20th January)?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ExiledGael on January 20, 2008, 03:23:08 PM
Read somewhere last week that they are playing in Casement today alright
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 21, 2008, 10:02:47 AM
Draws for the various championships this season
There will be a Co. Board meeting in Armagh City Hotel on Monday night at which the draws for the senior, intermediate, junior, minor and U-21 championships will be made.

The above was on Hoganstand today. On another note does anyone know where the fixtures and groups can be found for the forthcoming ulster league games??????????????/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 21, 2008, 10:46:31 AM
Harps fixtures in the Ulster League...

Home to Banagher (Derry) - 3rd feb
Away to Galbally (Tyrone) - 10th feb
Home to Loup (Derry) - 17th feb
Home to Longstone (Down) - 24th feb
Away to Downpatrick (Down) - 2nd march

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 21, 2008, 11:04:25 AM
From orchard county:

Group A
Aghyaran (Tyrone)
Ballinascreen (Derry)
Ballyshannon (Donegal)
Derrygonnelly (Fermanagh)
Glenullin (Derry)
Maghery (Armagh)

Group B
Ballinderry (Derry)
Ballyholland (Down)
Culloville (Armagh)
Donaghmore (Tyrone)
Latton (Monaghan)
Rossa (Antrim)

Group C
Ardboe (Tyrone)
Brookeborough (Fermanagh)
Clan na Gael (Armagh)
Darragh Cross (Down)
Kilrea (Derry)
St Paul's (Antrim)

Group D
Clonduff (Down)
Doohamlet (Monaghan)
Dromore (Tyrone)
Silverbridge (Armagh)
Roslea (Fermanagh)
Slaughtneil (Derry)

Group E
Gortin (Tyrone)
Lavey (Derry)
Liatroim (Down)
Mullaghbawn (Armagh)
Monaghan Harps (Monaghan)
Teemore (Fermanagh)


Group F
Armagh Harps (Armagh)
Banagher (Derry)
Downpatrick (Down)
Galbally (Tyrone)
Longstone (Down)
Loup (Derry)

Group G
Buncrana (Donegal)
Irvinestown (Fermanagh)
Loughmacrory (Tyrone)
Roger Casements (Antrim)

Games commence on Sunday 3 February 2008.
All games at 2.00pm unless alternative time agreed by both clubs.



FIXTURES

Sunday 3 February

Group A (2.00)
Aghyaran v Ballinascreen
Ballyshannon v Derrygonnelly
Glenullin v Maghery

Group B (2.00)
Ballinderry v Ballyholland
Culloville v Donaghmore
Latton v Rossa

Group C (2.00)
Clan na Gael v Darragh Cross
Kilrea v St Paul's
Ardboe v Brookeborough

Group D (2.00)
Silverbridge v Slaughtneil
Dromore v Roslea
Clonduff v Doohamlet

Group E (2.00)
Gortin v Lavey
Mullaghbawn v Teemore
Liatroim v Monaghan Harps

Group F (2.00)
Longstone v Loup
Downpatrick v Galbally
Armagh Harps v Banagher

Group G (2.00)
Buncrana v Dungiven
Irvinestown v Loughmacrory


Sunday 10 February

Group A (2.00)
Derrygonnelly v Aghyaran
Ballinascreen v Glenullen
Maghery v Ballyshannon

Group B (2.00)
Rossa v Culloville
Donaghmore v Ballinderry
Ballyholland v Latton

Group C (2.00)
Brookeborough v Kilrea
Darragh Cross v Ardboe
St Paul's v Clan na Gael

Group D (2.00)
Slaughtneil v Dromore
Roslea v Clonduff
Doohamlet v Silverbridge

Group E (2.00)
Lavey v Mullaghbawn
Teemore v Liatroim
Monaghan Harps v Gortin

Group F (2.00)
Banagher v Longstone
Loup v Downpatrick
Galbally v Armagh Harps

Group G (2.00)
Dungiven v Roger Casements
Loughmacrory v Buncrana


Sunday 17 February

Group A (2.00)
Ballinascreen v Derrygonnelly
Aghyaran v Maghery
Glenullen v Ballyshannon

Group B (2.00)
Ballyholland v Donaghmore
Ballinderry v Rossa
Latton v Culloville

Group C (2.00)
Kilrea v Clan na Gael
Brookeborough v Darragh Cross
Ardboe v St Paul's

Group D (2.00)
Doohamlet v Roslea
Clonduff v Slaughtneil
Silverbridge v Dromore

Group E (2.00)
Mullaghbawn v Liatroim
Gortin v Teemore
Lavey v Monaghan Harps

Group F (2.00)
Armagh Harps v Loup
Banagher v Galbally
Longstone v Downpatrick

Group G (2.00)
Loughmacrory v Dungiven
Roger Casements v Irvinestown


Sunday 24 February

Group A (2.00)
Ballyshannon v Ballinascreen
Derrygonnelly v Maghery
Aghyaran v Glenullen

Group B (2.00)
Latton v Donaghmore
Culloville v Ballinderry
Rossa v Ballyholland

Group C (2.00)
Clan na Gael v Brookeborough
Darragh Cross v St Paul's
Ardboe v Kilrea

Group D (2.00)
Roslea v Slaughtneil
Dromore v Doohamlet
Clonduff v Silverbridge

Group E (2.00)
Gortin v Mullaghbawn
Liatroim v Lavey
Monaghan Harps v Teemore

Group F (2.00)
Galbally v Loup
Armagh Harps v Longstone
Downpatrick v Banagher

Group G (2.00)
Buncrana v Roger Casements
Dungiven v Irvinestown


Sunday 2 March

Group A (2.00)
Glenullen v Derrygonnelly
Maghery v Ballinascreen
Ballyshannon v Aghyaran

Group B (2.00)
Donaghmore v Rossa
Culloville v Ballyholland
Ballinderry v Latton

Group C (2.00)
St Paul's v Brookeborough
Clan na Gael v Ardboe
Kilrea v Darragh Cross

Group D (2.00)
Slaughtneil v Doohamlet
Dromore v Clonduff
Silverbridge v Roslea

Group E (2.00)
Mullaghbawn v Monaghan Harps
Teemore v Lavey
Liatroim v Gortin

Group F (2.00)
Loup v Banagher
Longstone v Galbally
Downpatrick v Armagh Harps

Group G (2.00)
Roger Casements v Loughmacrory
Irvinestown v Buncrana
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 21, 2008, 11:27:11 AM
B, D & F look tight on paper ()...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 21, 2008, 12:06:30 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 20, 2008, 03:40:36 PM
Hurling championship between Armoy and Warwickshire was supposed to be today at Casement. Called off due to the pitch being unplayable.

Was that a different Armoy & Warwickshire they were reporting on in the Irish news today :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 21, 2008, 12:25:21 PM
I read somewhere that the meeting for the draws has been ut back from tonight to thursday the 24th.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 21, 2008, 12:59:51 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on January 21, 2008, 12:25:21 PM
I read somewhere that the meeting for the draws has been ut back from tonight to thursday the 24th.

As i said on Friday all of the 40 clubs have not put their application forward to participate in this years championships and that is the reason for the delay of the draw. On thurs night there were only 22 applications in with 18 still to apply ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 21, 2008, 01:56:27 PM
QuoteAs i said on Friday all of the 40 clubs have not put their application forward to participate in this years championships and that is the reason for the delay of the draw. On thurs night there were only 22 applications in with 18 still to apply

Are the senior teams conceding already :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 21, 2008, 02:12:52 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 21, 2008, 01:56:27 PM
QuoteAs i said on Friday all of the 40 clubs have not put their application forward to participate in this years championships and that is the reason for the delay of the draw. On thurs night there were only 22 applications in with 18 still to apply

Are the senior teams conceding already :P

They conceded 13 years ago :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 21, 2008, 02:15:57 PM
Don't be so hard on yourself ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 21, 2008, 02:17:47 PM
If they miss the closing date thats their problem! :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 21, 2008, 04:15:59 PM
There's meant to be more than half a dozen clubs looking regraded from the senior championship!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 21, 2008, 04:50:17 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 21, 2008, 04:15:59 PM
There's meant to be more than half a dozen clubs looking regraded from the senior championship!!!

I know i was having a bit of banter earlier but why wouldn't a team want to play against Cross, Clans, Harps, Ogs etc etc in the senior championship. There's no point running about telling everyone how good you are if you won't compete againt the best. (and i wasn't refeering to any one team in particular)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 21, 2008, 05:48:55 PM
there's no point in being in a championship you're not fit for either illdecide.

I spoke about this before the whole system needs changed before it's a complete mess - what teams are looking out of the senior championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 21, 2008, 08:04:23 PM
Dromintee???  :D
(and im obviously only joking before anyone has a go... )
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 21, 2008, 08:58:21 PM
Pity to hear so many looking to avoid the challenge of senior football. Not only is it bad for senior football but it tends to ruin the intermediate championship as well. A genuine intermediate championship wouldn't have 2 division 1 teams in the final like we had this year. (And before anyone jumps on me, I thought my own club regraded far too quickly).

I think we should move to a system like Down's where championship is based on league places. Top 16 (or 15 plus intermediate champions) in the SFC with the next 12 in the IFC and the rest in the JFC. Would be a lot fairer I think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 21, 2008, 09:01:05 PM
Quote
I think we should move to a system like Down's where championship is based on league places. Top 16 (or 15 plus intermediate champions) in the SFC with the next 12 in the IFC and the rest in the JFC. Would be a lot fairer I think.
Agree, I was saying that months ago. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 21, 2008, 09:06:45 PM
how does a club enter the ulster league? i thought i was only for division one clubs...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 21, 2008, 09:11:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 21, 2008, 09:08:28 PM
They just enter. It was never for Division 1 clubs only.

didnt know that. its definately a good idea to play games with a slightly competitive edge to it. Maybe it will give the bridge a good start on the rest in division 2....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on January 21, 2008, 09:26:45 PM
harpsvcarrickcruppin,ogsvtir na og,crossvdromintee.championship draws so far i heard
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 21, 2008, 09:35:47 PM
can confirm from reliable source harps v cruppen, cross v dromintee.

what is all this crap about draws being put back???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 21, 2008, 09:56:14 PM
clans got a bye the gods shine through again
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 21, 2008, 11:24:47 PM
From orchardcounty

ARMAGH FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP DRAWS – 2008

The Draws for the various Armagh Football Championships for the coming season were made at tonight's meeting of the County Committee and they are as follows:-


Senior Football Championship

1st Round
Granemore v Whitecross
St Michael's v Clann Eireann
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn
Crossmaglen v Dromintee
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg
Harps v Carrickcruppen
Killeavey v Maghery
Bye:- Clan na Gael


Intermediate Football Championship

1st Round
Crossmaglen II v St Patrick's
Ballyhegan v St Peter's
An Port Mor v Sarsfields
Lissummon v Culloville
Madden v Clonmore
Keady v Collegeland
Silverbridge v St Paul's
Wolfe Tones v Annaghmore


Junior Football Championship

1st Round
Middletown v Shane O'Neill's
Phelim Brady's v Eire Og
Derrynoose v Clady
Mullaghbrack v O'Hanlon's
Tullysaran v Dorsey Emmett's
Grange v Belleek
Byes:- Forkhill & Corrinshego


Under-21 Football Championship

1st Round
Harps v Wolfe Tones
Culloville v St Peter's
Shane O'Neill's Dromintee
Crossmaglen v Whitecross
Ballymacnab v Cavanakill Gael's
Granemore v Sarsfields
Maghery v Mullaghbawn
St Paul's v Pearse Og
Clann Eireann v Carrickcruppen
Eire Og v Clan na Gael
Silverbridge v St Patrick's
Byes:- Middletown, Tir na nÓg, Killeavey, Madden & Keady


Minor Football Championship

Preliminary Round
Mullaghbawn v Middletown

1st Round
St Peter's v Clady
Mullaghbawn or Middletown v Madden
St Brigid's v Clan na Gael
St John's Shane O'Neill's
Carrickcruppen v Forkhill
Corrinshego v Ballyhegan
Tir na nÓg v Pearse Og
Granemore v Culloville
St Paul's v St Patrick's
Derrynoose v Clann Eireann
Dromintee v Ballymacnab
Crossmaglen v Grange
Killeavey v Silverbridge
Harps v Sarsfields
Maghery v Wolfe Tones
Keady v Eire Og


The Senior, Intermediate and Junior Championship games will be played at neutral venues.
The Under-21 and Minor Championship games will be played at 1st named team's venue.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 22, 2008, 09:29:27 AM
I also heard the league wont be startn till the 13th April so that leaves with alot of time to be runnin about in the gutters! great!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 22, 2008, 09:32:45 AM
Harps v 'Cruppen, good draw for both teams as both will fancy their chances. Only other draw of real interest (to me) anyway is Cross v Dromintee, I suppose if there's a time to get them it's in the first round.  Clann's get a bye 2 years in a row ??? who is the county chairman again?? ;)

What happened Tullysaran, not registered for the minor championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 22, 2008, 09:38:32 AM
I'd agree 1st round is the time to get Cross, then again...they're going to be flying fit!

Senior - Cross
Inter  - Ballyhegan!    ;)      ...     ...     ...                         or St Pat's
Junior - Tullysaren
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 22, 2008, 09:43:12 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 22, 2008, 09:32:45 AM
Harps v 'Cruppen, good draw for both teams as both will fancy their chances. Only other draw of real interest (to me) anyway is Cross v Dromintee, I suppose if there's a time to get them it's in the first round.  Clann's get a bye 2 years in a row ??? who is the county chairman again?? ;)

What happened Tullysaran, not registered for the minor championship?

Did Clans not get beat by Tir na Og (Porty) in the first round of the senior championship last year???????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 22, 2008, 09:44:35 AM
Quote
Did Clans not get beat by Tir na Og (Porty) in the first round of the senior championship last year???????

More of a bye bye then... :P (I feel your pain!  :'()
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on January 22, 2008, 10:05:42 AM
Silverbridge for the Intermediate. The winners of this competition for the last few years have all played St Paul's in the first round.
Although a Culloville v Cullyhanna final would be great. Couldn't be arsed reading this site if we had to go through the whole Bridge v Cullyhanna thing again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 22, 2008, 10:22:05 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 22, 2008, 09:44:35 AM
Quote
Did Clans not get beat by Tir na Og (Porty) in the first round of the senior championship last year???????

More of a bye bye then... :P (I feel your pain!  :'()

::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 22, 2008, 10:55:01 AM

Draw of the three championships has to be cullyhanna vs cross seconds. who would pints support there?

so they're running the senior championship off in one day this year. makes sense.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on January 22, 2008, 11:20:23 AM
Om 13 April Armagh play Cork at home in the last game of the National League. Will club league still start last year?
The last two years Armagh were away from home so most club games went ahead.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 22, 2008, 12:33:33 PM
QuoteDraw of the three championships has to be cullyhanna vs cross seconds. who would pints support there?

I look at it the same way I do when yous play Cross - whoever loses I'll be happy.   :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on January 22, 2008, 12:57:57 PM
Pints,
What about the Under-21 game between yourselves and St Pats at Silverbridge.
What is your Under-21's like.  Apparently Cullyhanna a fairly strong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 22, 2008, 01:05:15 PM
Benny, I think there was a mistake wen handing in the form (the clubs own fault) probably the case of an unticked box or something.  The club is in the process of trying to rectify the problem now, dunno if its too late or wat the story is! Wud be a shame as the minors are still a pretty healthy side this year!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 22, 2008, 01:49:41 PM

This is the first time in memory that i'm completely uninspired by cub championship draws. maybe the cross dominance has finally been assimilated into the system!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 22, 2008, 01:54:17 PM
Are the Ogs their main contenders?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 22, 2008, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 22, 2008, 01:54:17 PM
Are the Ogs their main contenders?

And with Ballyheagon's history they will be feared throught the country not just the county (Sorry you were getting on my Goat ;) :D)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on January 22, 2008, 02:05:26 PM
We might as well revert to an FA Cup stlye Competition as opposed to the current set-up we have in the Armagh Championships. If Clady had beaten Collegeland in this year's Junior, they could have been drew against Cullyhanna in the 1st round of this years Intermediate. A first division side against a fourth division side. Surely it's time to re-vamp the championships, so that they truly reflect the league standings. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 22, 2008, 02:20:32 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 22, 2008, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 22, 2008, 01:54:17 PM
Are the Ogs their main contenders?

And with Ballyheagon's history they will be feared throught the country not just the county (Sorry you were getting on my Goat ;) :D)

Eh!? - Not sure why you've posted that!

I named Ballyhegan for the Intermediate (more in hope than expectation!) - I'm fully aware it'll probably come down to one of 3 south Armagh neighbours!

- Going on the last few years, The Davitts will struggle against St Peter's! - though here's hoping Big Turley can work a bit of magic!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 22, 2008, 02:20:33 PM
The board gets pettier every day i see it. Imagine suggesting that the clans only got a bye because they hold the position of  county chairman. Either way it shalll be an interesting start to another year with the Cross and Dromintee. It will be the usual hype and Dromintee will flop. The Dromintee boys won't agree but i think it will be as you were.
Title: Clanns skin gets thinner
Post by: bennydorano on January 22, 2008, 03:26:37 PM
Well, it was a bit of a joke ::), although the Clanns could do with all the help they can get
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 22, 2008, 03:32:38 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 22, 2008, 02:20:33 PM
The board gets pettier every day i see it. Imagine suggesting that the clans only got a bye because they hold the position of  county chairman. Either way it shalll be an interesting start to another year with the Cross and Dromintee. It will be the usual hype and Dromintee will flop. The Dromintee boys won't agree but i think it will be as you were.

I haven't heard anyone expect dromintee to beat cross in a couple of years, even dromintee men. that hardly constitutes hype?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 22, 2008, 04:50:59 PM
The HYPE would be in the build up to the math Uladh :-\. Not the hype about Dromintee winning. I have also read comments expressing the opinion that Dromintee may be the only team to beat Cross and this has been on this board. So if you haven't seen it then i don't know what you have been reading. You guys say it was a bit funny seeing the clans getting a bye but i don't think for one minute the other delegates of the the county board especially the South Armagh ones, who hold a certain veto would sit back and allow mishaps that would favour north Armagh or Mid teams. :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 22, 2008, 04:56:48 PM
The banter was good and friendly there for a few months and all of a suden the draw for the championship comes out and so does the knives. Excellent :D :D :D

I think we could all do with a bit of luck when it comes to the championship i.e."cross factor" but i have been saying for a couple of years now and i'll stand by it "when Oisin and the twins retire/get to old the Cross will be beaten in Armagh" i know they have exceptional young lads on the team but look back over the years any time they ever got rattled it was always one of them men pulling them out of a hole and players of that quality cannot be replaced.

P.S. Goats only having a laugh ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 22, 2008, 05:02:13 PM

very true Illdecide. they're the main men all right.

winsam - i think you re imagining things... you better post up an oul quote there in case you could be deemed a spoofer!
by the way, one poster makes a tongue in cheek suggestion about your bye and suddenly the whole world's out to get you?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2008, 05:20:09 PM
Illdecide, there is some meritin what you say, but it must also be seen in the overall picture.  Do you honestly believe that Cross will suddenly implode and stop losing Championships.  What may happen is that they will stop winning countless ones in a row, but I seriously cannot see there being any sustained gap in them winning.

Factor in this, of the teams that have been challenging Cross, Dromintee have a small pick of players and subsequently will find it more difficult to maintain their challenge, the Harps have a strong group of young fellas but with no real leaders on the pitch to drive them on, the Clans are similar.  The Ogs are a serious threat but there is a physcological thing there with them.  Couple this with the fact that Cross have an under age structure geared to generating players who can seemlessly fit into the senior squad, then you see that there is potentially a huge gap overall for teams to bridge.  I am not saying Cross will win 10 in a row again, but 5 out of  ten is a serious possibility and if you see that as teams making inroads well I have to disagree.

Interesting draw, and I wiould say that depending on how the AI goes for Cross this may be Dromintee's best chance to catch them.  The early rounds are always the hardest to win so Dromintee now have 3-4 months of complete focus with only one goal in mind.  Can they take it?Time will tell!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 22, 2008, 05:41:14 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on January 22, 2008, 12:57:57 PM
Pints,
What about the Under-21 game between yourselves and St Pats at Silverbridge.
What is your Under-21's like.  Apparently Cullyhanna a fairly strong.


I don't think we'll be as strong as the last 3 or 4 years (though we haven't performed when it mattered). This years u21 team will probably be the seven or eight lads who were the backbone of the 2006 minor team (beaten by cross in the semi final) mixed with minors but we wouldn't be particularly strong in that area at the minute.  I think we'll have a better chance next year and after that I'd say it'll be a while before we're challengers in the u21s.  With the players and teams we've had in the last 3/4 years imho we should have won at least one, if not two, under 21 championships.  I don't really understand why we haven't performed.  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 22, 2008, 07:51:21 PM
cruppen lose only 4 starters from the team that won the u21s last year. 3 other lads played a part in nearly all the games. will be strong contenders again but thats not until oct/nov time. i still think cross/dromintee will be interesting, the time to beat cross is early. i remember killeavy running them very close a few years ago and there could be still the hangover of any potential all ireland. though without dyas....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 22, 2008, 08:52:56 PM
IMHO the only challengers to Cross will be the Og's
They will have come on for last years final appearance & with Donnelly to come in they could push Cross in the next year or so.
No-one else will come close :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 22, 2008, 09:28:53 PM
Dromintee came close last year and forced a draw full back so I don't see how you can rule themn out.

Win I don't think anyone ever built up Dromintee as such, but we have been Cross greatest challengers for years and although we failed most on the board would of seen us as the team who may have challenged the dominance.

From a Dromintee viewpoint it a good draw for us, but Cross are Cross and all that..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 22, 2008, 09:55:58 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 22, 2008, 09:28:53 PM
Dromintee came close last year and forced a draw full back so I don't see how you can rule themn out.

Kevin Dyas is a massive loss corn & although no single player is better than the team it is going to be very difficult to replace him in the coming year.
Regarding last year against Cross, on the first day O Neill was outstanding in the middle of the park in the second half (as was Dyas coming from deep) & this sort of caught Cross on the hop. In the replay the Cross tactics totally stifled the Dromintee midfield so that is another tactic out the window for the coming year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 22, 2008, 10:13:46 PM
A good point, the return of Shane O'Neill fairly softened the blow though.

As Uladh says it is hard to get excited about it this year, maybe the year were we do not expect is the year we get shocked.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on January 22, 2008, 10:15:14 PM
It will be cross again. Nobody else is close. Mulaghbawn have a easy draw and should win. Clans have had trouble with bys before so dont get to cocky winsamsoon.

Why is there 2 bys in the JFC??? Why could Forkhill and that lot from Newry not play each other it dont make sence to me

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on January 22, 2008, 10:38:02 PM
you need 2 bys to make the draw work  dummy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 22, 2008, 11:48:00 PM
Who got cocky???? I simply stated we got a bye. We would hve probably prefered a competitive match but at a second best we will be happy with a bye. Unlike some other members and teams the clans wouldn't really settle for a first round or second round defeat. The clans don't really go out to play any team if they have already conceeded defeat. I have witnessed some posters on this board running their own team down when draws have been made. I admire the likes of Corn and theses guys for sticking to their guns. They know the face an uphillchallenge but they are still positive that they can beat the Cross and sure why wouldn't they be. I woul be of the opinion that no one has run the cross close over the past ten years. Dromintee have meet them in earlier rounds and therefore haven't really got an opportunity to reach many finals but they still have never run cross close.(with the exceptions of last years draw) I went to the reply and it was really embarassing. Registering 1 point from play is a joke in any game.  Championship football is a funy game and anything could happen on any given day. Look at Balymacnab last year with the ogs, Sarsfields when cross won the first All Ireland. The list goes on. Everyone is the championship has a chance of winning it, but you would have to make cross about 5/1 on favouites but they may just encounter a few surprises along the way.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 23, 2008, 01:22:41 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 22, 2008, 11:48:00 PM
Dromintee have meet them in earlier rounds and therefore haven't really got an opportunity to reach many finals but they still have never run cross close.(with the exceptions of last years draw).

Jaysus man if you're gonna preach at least do a bit of research
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 23, 2008, 09:35:44 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2008, 05:20:09 PM
Illdecide, there is some meritin what you say, but it must also be seen in the overall picture.  Do you honestly believe that Cross will suddenly implode and stop losing Championships.  What may happen is that they will stop winning countless ones in a row, but I seriously cannot see there being any sustained gap in them winning.

Factor in this, of the teams that have been challenging Cross, Dromintee have a small pick of players and subsequently will find it more difficult to maintain their challenge, the Harps have a strong group of young fellas but with no real leaders on the pitch to drive them on, the Clans are similar.  The Ogs are a serious threat but there is a physcological thing there with them.  Couple this with the fact that Cross have an under age structure geared to generating players who can seemlessly fit into the senior squad, then you see that there is potentially a huge gap overall for teams to bridge.  I am not saying Cross will win 10 in a row again, but 5 out of  ten is a serious possibility and if you see that as teams making inroads well I have to disagree.

Interesting draw, and I wiould say that depending on how the AI goes for Cross this may be Dromintee's best chance to catch them.  The early rounds are always the hardest to win so Dromintee now have 3-4 months of complete focus with only one goal in mind.  Can they take it?Time will tell!

BC1 thats what i meant. Cross will still win the majority of the senior championships but they will not repeat the feat they accomplished over the last 13 years. As you say 5 out of 10 or possibly more is very realistic but another 13 in a row??? I doubt it but 1 never knows.

Winsam have you forgotten Dromintee getting beat 3 finals in a row (i think it was 3)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: man in black on January 23, 2008, 09:40:34 AM
Quote from: illdecide on January 23, 2008, 09:35:44 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2008, 05:20:09 PM
Illdecide, there is some meritin what you say, but it must also be seen in the overall picture.  Do you honestly believe that Cross will suddenly implode and stop losing Championships.  What may happen is that they will stop winning countless ones in a row, but I seriously cannot see there being any sustained gap in them winning.

Factor in this, of the teams that have been challenging Cross, Dromintee have a small pick of players and subsequently will find it more difficult to maintain their challenge, the Harps have a strong group of young fellas but with no real leaders on the pitch to drive them on, the Clans are similar.  The Ogs are a serious threat but there is a physcological thing there with them.  Couple this with the fact that Cross have an under age structure geared to generating players who can seemlessly fit into the senior squad, then you see that there is potentially a huge gap overall for teams to bridge.  I am not saying Cross will win 10 in a row again, but 5 out of  ten is a serious possibility and if you see that as teams making inroads well I have to disagree.

Interesting draw, and I wiould say that depending on how the AI goes for Cross this may be Dromintee's best chance to catch them.  The early rounds are always the hardest to win so Dromintee now have 3-4 months of complete focus with only one goal in mind.  Can they take it?Time will tell!

BC1 thats what i meant. Cross will still win the majority of the senior championships but they will not repeat the feat they accomplished over the last 13 years. As you say 5 out of 10 or possibly more is very realistic but another 13 in a row??? I doubt it but 1 never knows.

Winsam have you forgotten Dromintee getting beat 3 finals in a row (i think it was 3)

Are Dromintee the Mayo of Armagh club football?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 23, 2008, 09:45:50 AM
Yes the key was the fact that they were beaten 3 finals in a row, I think it was the last one they were in( about 3 years back) they went fairly close but still never produced the goods. Uladh you seem to be the font of all knowledge so instead of just sitting back and sniping at the opinions of other posters, how about you post an opinion of your own? It would be very easy to sitback and read other posts and then make attacks on the actual characters but what about making a comment on the issue at hand.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 23, 2008, 09:51:12 AM

Are Dromintee the Mayo of Armagh club football?
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No because the last two seasons they have been dumped out in early rounds albeit by cross. Plus they have never won a senior championship so it is hard to say they are the second best team in Armagh. They are a decent side though with some great individual players and some great characters (cathal). I also agree with some of the other posters when they say Dyas will be a big miss. How is Dyas getting on anyway?? (for anyone who doesn't know Dyas he was another great prospect poached by the NFL)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 23, 2008, 09:55:20 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 23, 2008, 09:51:12 AM
How is Dyas getting on anyway?? (for anyone who doesn't know Dyas he was another great prospect poached by the NFL)

winsam - the font of all knowledge ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 23, 2008, 09:59:13 AM
Very good fullback :D :D at leats we know you are awake on these dull mornings ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 23, 2008, 10:16:26 AM
I wouldn't be so certain about the Og's being the main contenders, by the looks of it they are going to have to contend with 7 or 8 players on the county panel, that cannot be be good for the team's unity  and cohesion(as they certainly are no Cross).  Apart from them, Dromintee are still the team best placed to beat them, Dyas is a huge loss but a fit again Shane O'Neill and Vinny Martin are no bad replacements for Dyas's loss.  Hard to know what the Harps will do, new management, but the interest is high with huge numbers out training.  A kind draw could bring the Clans far but they have absolutely no chance of beating Cross(whatever pyschological barrier Dromintee have regarding Cross, Clans are worse).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 23, 2008, 10:25:33 AM
Apart from the Ogs 7/8 on the county panel they have a possibel further 6/7 out because they are either:
(a) Retired
(b) Moving over the water for work
(c) Taking a year out
(d) Long term injury

Can you confirm or deny this..... (el cuervo)  :o

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 23, 2008, 10:32:34 AM
i don't think dromintee were beaten 3 finals in a row?

win, I'm merely pointing out that the facts don't support what you're saying. amongst other things you said that Dromintee haven't gotten to many finals. by my recollection they've contested 3 finals, lost 3 semi finals and one quarter final to cross in the last 8 years. until the replay in 2007 cross had never beaten them by more that 1-3 points. including all of the other county champions in ulster, noone else has come closer to beating cross in this current championship series. No other club in armagh has beaten dromintee in senior championship football in armagh in 8 years. bearing that in mind, you still stand over the following?

Quote from: winsamsoon on January 22, 2008, 11:48:00 PM
Dromintee have meet them in earlier rounds and therefore haven't really got an opportunity to reach many finals but they still have never run cross close

Quote from: winsamsoon on January 23, 2008, 09:51:12 AM
No because the last two seasons they have been dumped out in early rounds albeit by cross. Plus they have never won a senior championship so it is hard to say they are the second best team in Armagh.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on January 23, 2008, 10:42:23 AM
Winsamsoon, pack your bags. Think you have lost this one my friend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 23, 2008, 11:03:48 AM
Dromintee have always been the team Cross found hardest to beat.  they were not always the best team that they played against but with the intense rivallry and the fact that we all moreorless knew each other from when we were younger, it meant there was always a keener edge in the games. 

I will take Uladh's stats as correct as I couldn't be arsed finding them.  It amazes me how Dromintee are able to keep focused year in year out.  If anything they are probably more focused than Cross as we always had the advantage of winning to keep us on a crest.  This is Dromintee's year , in my view, as I think they will not get a better chance to beat Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 23, 2008, 11:08:48 AM
Quote from: Candyman on January 23, 2008, 10:25:33 AM
Apart from the Ogs 7/8 on the county panel they have a possibel further 6/7 out because they are either:
(a) Retired
(b) Moving over the water for work
(c) Taking a year out
(d) Long term injury

Can you confirm or deny this..... (el cuervo)  :o



I can neither confirm or deny anything at the minute.  When we hit the field i'll be fit to tell u more
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 23, 2008, 11:13:41 AM
Grand so.... Was just talking to a few Ogs supporters who were filling me in!! I was actually shocked at some of the names who would potentially be missing!! But sure as its still 2 bottles of Bo for £5 they'll be grand!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 23, 2008, 11:18:07 AM
Quote from: Candyman on January 23, 2008, 11:13:41 AM
Grand so.... Was just talking to a few Ogs supporters who were filling me in!! I was actually shocked at some of the names who would potentially be missing!! But sure as its still 2 bottles of Bo for £5 they'll be grand!!!  ;)

wouldn't it be great if people could read properly. ;)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 23, 2008, 12:35:50 PM
ARMAGH NFL PANEL ANNOUNCED

Armagh manager, Peter McDonnell, has announced his panel for the forthcoming National Football League with the proviso that it may be subject to change at any time during the League.

Paul McGrane is to be captain for this coming season.

The panel is as follows:-

Pearse Og (7): Conor Clarke, Ronan Clarke, Ciaran McKinney, Paul Duffy, Gregory Loughran, Gerard McCoy, Andy Mallon.

Dromintee (5): Gareth O'Neill, Aidan O'Rourke, Martin O'Rourke, Micheal O'Rourke, Barry Shannon

Ballyhegan (3): Paul Courtney, Paul McGrane, Paddy McKeever

Maghery (2): Stefan Forker, James Lavery

Mullaghbawn (2): Gareth Smyth, Mark Quinn

St Patrick's (2): Liam O'Hare, Kieran McKeever

Ballymacnab (1): Brian McCone

Clady (1): Philip Loughran

Clonmore (1): Brendan Donaghy

Harps (1): Charlie Vernon

Killeavey (1): Steven McDonnell

Lissummon (1): Paudie Rodgers

Na Fianna (1): Enda McNulty

Tir na nÓg (1): Brian Mallon

Wolfe Tones (1): Finian Moriarty
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 23, 2008, 12:41:34 PM
I thought Nippy had done enough to merit inclusion.  Liam O'Hare!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on January 23, 2008, 12:43:40 PM
Nippy is shocking unlucky.

There's 30 named, sure at least 6 of those will go when the Cross boys come back
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 23, 2008, 12:50:12 PM
No disrespect to the lad, but how can Mark Quinn be included and Nippy not?!?! Some may add i have the tinted glasses on but over the few mckenna cup games surely Nippy was more prominent and played the better stuff????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 23, 2008, 12:54:19 PM
nippy and kevin orourke...

there were a few im not sure about tho, shannon, o'hare, c.clarke, quinn... etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 23, 2008, 01:01:25 PM
Personally I dont think this is the place to slate players (which i have not done) I just think Nippy should have been on the panel?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 23, 2008, 01:04:10 PM
Shocked that Kevin O'Rourke didn't make the panel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 23, 2008, 01:05:18 PM
Yep, Niippy is a shocking ommission for me as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: giveherlong on January 23, 2008, 01:23:06 PM
Who is Nippy?

Who do you think will be added from Cross once they get finished up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 23, 2008, 01:25:45 PM
Gareth Swift, Armagh Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 23, 2008, 01:27:11 PM
I definitely thought nippy was in with a great shout.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 23, 2008, 01:38:14 PM
i read on the orchardcounty.com that the 1st round of the junior is not until 3rd of August... cud that be right cuz that seems awful late!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 23, 2008, 01:49:41 PM
I presumed when Swift didn't get a run out v St Mary's he was a cert, especially when Austie is out!!

He must have been shocking in training!?

Kev O'Rourke provided the only scoring threat we had in the last game!!

To be fair Benny I'd have had Liam O'Hare in also, thought he showed well enough.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 23, 2008, 01:57:04 PM
Have heard now Nippy is on the panel - currently injured, hence the omission.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 23, 2008, 02:19:22 PM
  Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
« Reply #5397 on: Today at 10:32:34 AM »   

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Quote from: winsamsoon on January 22, 2008, 11:48:00 PM
Dromintee have meet them in earlier rounds and therefore haven't really got an opportunity to reach many finals but they still have never run cross close


Quote from: winsamsoon on Today at 09:51:12 AM
No because the last two seasons they have been dumped out in early rounds albeit by cross. Plus they have 
Crossmaglen Rangers 0-13
Dromintee / Droim an Tí 0-11}2003
Crossmaglen Rangers 2-10
Dromintee / Droim an Tí 1-8}2002
Crossmaglen Rangers 2-8
Dromintee / Droim an Tí 1-7}2001

Well there goes the 1-3 point stat you came up with!! That second statement i made Uladh is this wrong?? have Dromintee not been beaten by cross before the final stage in the last two years? You say that no other team in armagh have beaten Cross in championship football in the last 8 years, well this is correct but you overlook the fact that Dromintee are amoung this list :D. No TEAM has beaten Cross. But when i listen to some of the guys here posting about Dromintee you would think they have actually won the championship or beaten Cross. The fact is they haven't and until they do this they will be classed as the same as all the other challengers. They are merely challengers as are The Ogs, Mullaghbawn and many other clubs. These are basic facts that you must recognise. It does'n matter whether you get beat In final after final if you don't win then you just become another forgotten statistic.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: judas1 on January 23, 2008, 02:40:29 PM
ARMAGH NFL PANEL ANNOUNCED

Armagh manager, Peter McDonnell, has announced his panel for the forthcoming National Football League with the proviso that it may be subject to change at any time during the League.
Paul McGrane is to be captain for this coming season.

The panel is as follows:-

Pearse Og (7): Conor Clarke, Ronan Clarke, Ciaran McKinney, Paul Duffy, Gregory Loughran, Gerard McCoy, Andy Mallon.

Dromintee (5): Gareth O'Neill, Aidan O'Rourke, Martin O'Rourke, Micheal O'Rourke, Barry Shannon

Ballyhegan (3): Paul Courtney, Paul McGrane, Paddy McKeever

Maghery (2): Stefan Forker, James Lavery

Mullaghbawn (2): Gareth Smyth, Mark Quinn

St Patrick's (2): Liam O'Hare, Kieran McKeever

Ballymacnab (1): Brian McCone

Clady (1): Philip Loughran

Clonmore (1): Brendan Donaghy

Harps (1): Charlie Vernon

Killeavey (1): Steven McDonnell

Lissummon (1): Paudie Rodgers

Na Fianna (1): Enda McNulty

Tir na nÓg (1): Brian Mallon

Wolfe Tones (1): Finian Moriarty

Any injured players have been left out of the panel for now, this includes nippy and liam ohare. refer to bold print above
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 23, 2008, 02:46:07 PM
Judas i take it that Ronan Austin would fall under this catagory or has he just got the chop???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 23, 2008, 03:24:07 PM
Nippy is def on the NFL panel or else why would he be in LA so much
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 23, 2008, 03:26:59 PM
Quote from: BenDover on January 23, 2008, 03:24:07 PM
Nippy is def on the NFL panel or else why would he be in LA so much
Getting a tan??? (sorry couldnt resist it...  ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 23, 2008, 03:29:07 PM
Maybe he just wants to keep fit, He'll still be playing club football anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaa.boy on January 23, 2008, 04:15:54 PM
Is Mal Mackin dropped?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 23, 2008, 04:43:04 PM
Presumably Mal Mackin isn't listed as he is also injured
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 23, 2008, 04:59:45 PM
Don't want to condem them lads but i have to agree with most of you that Swift should be there. There has to be some reason why he was put of the panel as a blind man can see he has more ability than some of them guys selected for the National League. I don't know tha lad maybe he has attitute problems or maybe doesn't put the effort in but on ability he should be included.

As for R Austin i don't know what the score is with him ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goal and a point on January 23, 2008, 05:13:28 PM
what about JP Donnelly?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 23, 2008, 06:52:32 PM
Just heard the 1/4 finals of the armagh senior championship will be on the 6th of september. I wonder why the dates have been put back so late?????  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on January 23, 2008, 06:54:57 PM
Whys the junior final on 12th october
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 23, 2008, 07:05:51 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 23, 2008, 02:19:22 PM
  Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
« Reply #5397 on: Today at 10:32:34 AM »   

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Quote from: winsamsoon on January 22, 2008, 11:48:00 PM
Dromintee have meet them in earlier rounds and therefore haven't really got an opportunity to reach many finals but they still have never run cross close


Quote from: winsamsoon on Today at 09:51:12 AM
No because the last two seasons they have been dumped out in early rounds albeit by cross. Plus they have 
Crossmaglen Rangers 0-13
Dromintee / Droim an Tí 0-11}2003
Crossmaglen Rangers 2-10
Dromintee / Droim an Tí 1-8}2002
Crossmaglen Rangers 2-8
Dromintee / Droim an Tí 1-7}2001

Well there goes the 1-3 point stat you came up with!! That second statement i made Uladh is this wrong?? have Dromintee not been beaten by cross before the final stage in the last two years? You say that no other team in armagh have beaten Cross in championship football in the last 8 years, well this is correct but you overlook the fact that Dromintee are amoung this list :D. No TEAM has beaten Cross. But when i listen to some of the guys here posting about Dromintee you would think they have actually won the championship or beaten Cross. The fact is they haven't and until they do this they will be classed as the same as all the other challengers. They are merely challengers as are The Ogs, Mullaghbawn and many other clubs. These are basic facts that you must recognise. It does'n matter whether you get beat In final after final if you don't win then you just become another forgotten statistic.

Winsam - i can't believe you're being serious here?

you actually can't read in my post that it says not other team has beaten Dromintee for 8 years?

noone is disputing that Dromintee are noone is near cross. what i am disputing is that even your own facts make your claims that dromintee have never run cross close ridiculous. there'd be very few cross men would agree with that.

not surprising that you've changed your argument now from not getting to finals to not mattering when you lose to cross after being shown up as plain wrong.

noone disputes that there are 4/5 teams with an equal chance of beating cross (slim), including clans. but to not recognise that dromintee have been slightly better than those 4/5 or over 7/8 years is either stoopid or something else. It's certainly not dromintee's fault that they don't have the history to be classed in what you regard as the traditionally big club bracket, but as a lot of clubs are slowly realising, history means nada.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 23, 2008, 07:12:37 PM
QuoteI presumed when Swift didn't get a run out v St Mary's he was a cert, especially when Austie is out!!

He must have been shocking in training!?

Kev O'Rourke provided the only scoring threat we had in the last game!!

To be fair Benny I'd have had Liam O'Hare in also, thought he showed well enough.

I can only assume, as stated above, that injury is the reason Swift isn't on the panel. Be interesting to see who he starts at midfield inthe league. Plenty of options and hopefully 1 will step up to the mark.

Agree you Goats Do Shave that Liam O'Hare deserves a chance in the League.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 23, 2008, 09:27:09 PM
From orchardcounty

ARMAGH FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS – DATES, TIMES & VENUES

Wednesday 30 April
Under-21 Football Championship – 1st Round (7.00)
Harps v Wolfe Tones
Culloville v St Peter's
Shane O'Neill's v Dromintee
Crossmaglen v Whitecross
Ballymacnab v Cavanakill Emmett's
Granemore v Sarsfields
Maghery v Mullaghbawn
St Paul's v Pearse Og
Clann Eireann v Carrickcruppen
Eire Og v Clan na Gael
Silverbridge v St Patrick's

Wednesday 7 May
Under-21 Football Championship – 2nd Round (7.00)

Wednesday 14 May
Under-21 Football Championship – Quarter-Finals (7.00)

Wednesday 21 May
Under-21 Football Championship – Semi-Finals (7.00)

Saturday 31 May
Under-21 Football Championship – FINAL (7.00)

Friday 25 July
Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round
Crossmaglen II v St Patrick's at Silverbridge (7.30)
Collegeland v Keady at Abbey Park (7.30)
Annaghmore v Wolfe Tones at Maghery (7.30)

Saturday 26 July
Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round
Culloville v Lissummon at Carrickcruppen (7.30)
Clonmore v Madden at Pearse Og Park (7.30)
Ballyhegan v St Peter's at Portadown (7.30)

Sunday 27 July
Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round
Silverbridge v St Paul's at Abbey Park (7.30)
An Port Mor v Sarsfields at Ballyhegan (7.30)

Wednesday 30 July
'B' Football Championship – Semi-Final (7.30)
Mid Armagh Winners v South Armagh Winners

Thursday 31 July
Under-16 Football Championship – Semi-Final (7.30)
Mid Armagh Winners v South Armagh Winners

Friday 1 August
Junior Football Championship – 1st Round
Eire Og v Phelim Brady's at Mullaghbrack (7.30)
Clady v Derrynoose at Keady (7.30)

Saturday 2 August
Junior Football Championship – 1st Round
Mullaghbrack v O'Hanlon's at Whitecross (7.30)

Sunday 3 August
Junior Football Championship – 1st Round
Dorsey Emmett's v Tullysaran at Granemore (2.00)
Belleek v Grange at Granemore (4.00)
Middletown v Shane O'Neill's at Ballymacnab (7.30)

Sunday 10 August
'B' Football Championship – FINAL (7.00)
Under-16 Football Championship FINAL (5.00)

Friday/Saturday/Sunday 15/16/17 August
Intermediate Football Championship – Quarter-Finals

Saturday 16 August
Senior Football Championship – 1st Round
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg at Davitt Park (6.00)
Clann Eireann v St Michael's at Abbey Park (6.00)
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn at Silverbridge (6.00)

Sunday 17 August
Senior Football Championship – 1st Round
Carrickcruppen v Harps at Keady (2.00)
Killeavey v Maghery at Pearse Og Park (4.00)
Granemore v Whitecross at Newtownhamilton (4.00)
Crossmaglen v Dromintee at Carrickcruppen (6.00)

Friday/Saturday/Friday 23/24/30 August
Junior Football Championship – Quarter-Finals

Saturday 30 August
Minor Football Championship – Preliminary Round (4.00)
Mullaghbawn v Middletown

Saturday 6 September
Minor Football Championship – 1st Round (4.00)
St Peter's v Clady
Mullaghbawn/Middletown v Madden
St Brigid's v Clan na Gael
St John's v Shane O'Neill's
Carrickcruppen v Forkhill
Corrinshego v Ballyhegan
Tir na nÓg v Pearse Og
Granemore v Culloville
St Paul's v St Patrick's
Derrynoose v Clann Eireann
Dromintee v Ballymacnab
Crossmaglen v Grange
Killeavey v Silverbridge
Harps v Sarsfields
Maghery v Wolfe Tones
Keady v Eire Og

Saturday/Sunday 6/7 September
Senior Football Championship – Quarter-Finals

Saturday 13 September
Minor Football Championship – 2nd Round (4.00)

Saturday/Sunday 13/14 September
Intermediate Football Championship – Semi-Finals

Saturday 27 September
Minor Football Championship – Quarter-Finals (4.00)

Saturday/Sunday 27/28 September
Junior Football Championship – Semi-Finals

Saturday/Sunday 4/5 October
Senior Football Championship – Semi-Finals
Minor Football Championship – Semi-Finals

Sunday 5 October
Intermediate Football Championship FINAL

Sunday 12 October
Junior Football Championship – FINAL

Sunday 19 October
Senior Football Championship – FINAL
Minor Football Championship – FINAL
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 23, 2008, 09:56:06 PM
Why the hell are they waiting till September to start the Minor championship?

And there's now going to be 2 u21 championships in 6 months. Gonna be tough on lads in May who are expected to play Senior leasgue and the weekend and u21 championship midweek. Right in the middle of the exam season as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 23, 2008, 10:10:58 PM
I confess Uladh i was speed reading and i read your type wrong so shoot me. I am going to wrap this one up as we are at the risk of boring everyone else who doesn't want to talk about the subject. My final say will be that "history may means nada" as you say, but niether does getting beat in 3 finals,  3 semi's and 2 quarters. I will wait for your last words on the subjects.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 23, 2008, 10:21:16 PM
Jesus Win , the Championship has not even started yet and you are getting the digs into Dromintee.

I think what Uladh is trying to say is that despite not actually achieving the goal, Dromintee have easily been the second best team in Armagh over the last decade, which of course is no consolation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 23, 2008, 11:46:57 PM
i notice that from the panel listed, to my knowledge there is no players listed who are eligible for the u21 team this year whi is also run in the early part of the year. from this i would imagine that the door for the likes of k o'rourke, etc is still open and these lads will join the panel if and when armagh's interest in the u21 championships is finished..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 24, 2008, 08:05:49 AM
Quote from: BenDover on January 23, 2008, 03:24:07 PM
Nippy is def on the NFL panel or else why would he be in LA so much

You must be on the panel yourself then? - Or is it the development squad?  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 24, 2008, 08:28:27 AM
Wednesday 30 April
Under-21 Football Championship – 1st Round (7.00)
Harps v Wolfe Tones
Culloville v St Peter's
Shane O'Neill's v Dromintee
Crossmaglen v Whitecross
Ballymacnab v Cavanakill Emmett's
Granemore v Sarsfields
Maghery v Mullaghbawn
St Paul's v Pearse Og
Clann Eireann v Carrickcruppen
Eire Og v Clan na Gael
Silverbridge v St Patrick's

Who the f**k are Cavanakill Emmetts?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 24, 2008, 08:35:47 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on January 24, 2008, 08:28:27 AM

Who the f**k are Cavanakill Emmetts?


I think Beleeks amalgamated with someone... Newtown?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 24, 2008, 09:12:32 AM
Quotei notice that from the panel listed, to my knowledge there is no players listed who are eligible for the u21 team this year whi is also run in the early part of the year. from this i would imagine that the door for the likes of k o'rourke, etc is still open and these lads will join the panel if and when armagh's interest in the u21 championships is finished

Stefan Forker is def eligible for U21, Michael O'Rourke is as well I think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 24, 2008, 09:56:18 AM
First round of the senior championship in the middle of August are they taking the pish or wha??? >:( >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 24, 2008, 10:09:29 AM
Sounds like a right f*ck up to me!!! Senior Final at the end of October which, for me is closed season????
June/July is lost because the competition hasn't even started.... Is there even a logical reason for this???  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 24, 2008, 10:24:45 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 23, 2008, 10:10:58 PM
I confess Uladh i was speed reading and i read your type wrong so shoot me. I am going to wrap this one up as we are at the risk of boring everyone else who doesn't want to talk about the subject. My final say will be that "history may means nada" as you say, but niether does getting beat in 3 finals,  3 semi's and 2 quarters. I will wait for your last words on the subjects.

Of course it doesn't. my point all along being that you were just plain wrong in your facts, and as you now concede this my work is done. it was slow but you got there in the end.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 24, 2008, 10:27:18 AM
Here we go with these amalgalmations again. It's a new one every year. Does this happen in a lot of other counties??? Candy your are right there mate June and July will be lost and training from this time of the year becomes pointless because by July the lads will be chomping at the bit and they have nothing to play for until two months down the line. I think it is designed to keep the leagues competitive till the end but it shouldn't be at the cost of the championship. There must be another way.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 24, 2008, 10:47:40 AM

looking at that schedule there's no point anyone getting onto a field before april
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 24, 2008, 10:50:36 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 24, 2008, 10:27:18 AM
Here we go with these amalgalmations again. It's a new one every year. Does this happen in a lot of other counties???

Winsam, amalgamations are made because clubs simply have not the numbers to field by themselves.
Would you prefer if they droppped out of the competition altogether?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on January 24, 2008, 10:54:22 AM
is these dates right? minor championship not starting till sept. u21 starting before it.Doesnt make sense.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 24, 2008, 11:38:09 AM
Question:

What do you call the big blonde haired midfielder that played along side Neill Smyth for Mullaghbawnin the 90's? think he also got a run for the county in the league.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 24, 2008, 11:51:25 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 24, 2008, 08:05:49 AM
Quote from: BenDover on January 23, 2008, 03:24:07 PM
Nippy is def on the NFL panel or else why would he be in LA so much

You must be on the panel yourself then? - Or is it the development squad?  :P

100% correct Goats I eventually made the cut!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 24, 2008, 11:53:25 AM
Ben I think Goats is talking about the county panel..... not the Ballycrummy 5 GFC!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on January 24, 2008, 11:57:25 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 24, 2008, 11:38:09 AM
Question:

What do you call the big blonde haired midfielder that played along side Neill Smyth for Mullaghbawnin the 90's? think he also got a run for the county in the league.

i think it is 'Egg' McParland you are thinking of Benny, can't remember his first name but i think it was Colm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 24, 2008, 12:34:15 PM
Cheers stpauls, that's him alrite, been bugging me for a while.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 24, 2008, 12:58:02 PM

colm mcparland - previous and recently reappointed mullaghbawn manager.

shane collins always stayed at midfield but himself and smyth rotated between 9 & 11 for different games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SuperHans on January 24, 2008, 01:49:42 PM
Whats up with peader toal these days ? how come hes not on the panel?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: machaman on January 24, 2008, 01:54:28 PM
I was wondering about Peadar Toal too.  He was close to starting in recent times and I haven't heard a thing this year.  I'd be very surprised if Nippy and Peadar are dropped.  Any info?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on January 24, 2008, 02:00:22 PM
Peader has a broken ankle and will be out for up to 6 months.  Nippy is still training with the panel and can be called upon at anytime.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 24, 2008, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: Candyman on January 24, 2008, 11:53:25 AM
Ben I think Goats is talking about the county panel..... not the Ballycrummy 5 GFC!!!  ;)

Yes I gathered that Candyman, did i hear the off season has been very kind to your good self??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 24, 2008, 02:57:06 PM
eh??? totally lost now, care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 24, 2008, 03:19:34 PM
Full back this argument about amalgamations has cropped up before. No one will criticise teams being out together to ensure lads have a game of football. However the sysytem of almalgamations are badly exploited. To the point were we see amalgamated teams sitting with 16-17 subs on the bench for some games. This is particularly hard on the smaller clubs who manage to put the effort in to scrap together 16 or 17 of a panel only to be trounced by an almalgamated team. Someone there mentioned that this new amalgamation involved "Newtown". I don't know what sort of catchment area Newtown have but this is a club whose senior team were recently in the senior championship and divison one. How do you think lower divisional teams would feel when they are beaten by a team like Newtown being allowed to strengthen with another team. If there is a massive need for young players to amalgamate then they could possible transfer out temporarily to some other clubs in their local area until the time comes when they can field their own team. If this were the case i can guarantee that each club would soon stop the almagamations as they would lose all their players to other clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 24, 2008, 03:32:41 PM
Quote from: Candyman on January 24, 2008, 02:57:06 PM
eh??? totally lost now, care to elaborate?

We hear you put on 2 stone over the winter ;) :D :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 24, 2008, 03:41:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 24, 2008, 03:32:41 PM
Quote from: Candyman on January 24, 2008, 02:57:06 PM
eh??? totally lost now, care to elaborate?

We hear you put on 2 stone over the winter ;) :D :P
When did you get in on the act i'll decide???  ;)
News to me, but if i did i must have borrowed it from Ben (or maybe Hank  ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 24, 2008, 03:47:22 PM
Just having a bit of craic Candyman as every other topic is boring. It's me who put the 2 stone on, god help the first fella i fall on during the league
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 24, 2008, 03:50:49 PM
when we play yous' will i know you from the tight fitting jersey or will i just start shouting your name????  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 24, 2008, 05:03:16 PM
Well the top was tight last year so it will be like blue skin on me this year :D  In fairness i don't see me playing to many games this year as i've another role on the team but if them we feckers don't cut it i'll have the trackie off and the gut out shouting to big Sam McClatch :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: feetofflames on January 24, 2008, 05:05:21 PM
Dont want to ruin your days ladsa but theres talk of PTG making a comeback in Tyrone....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on January 24, 2008, 05:22:00 PM
Never mind about Tyrone, what about the state of club football in Armagh. The County Board refuse to divise a system that truly reflect teams capabilities. Our Intermediate, Junior, Minor & U-21 Championships are a complete joke 'Cross Vs Grange' (U-21 I think) is one noteable match-up. If proof is needed take a look at last years opening round results of these underage competitions. Surely for Club football to prosper we need a total overhaul of  how these competitions are decided.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on January 24, 2008, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 24, 2008, 05:03:16 PM
Well the top was tight last year so it will be like blue skin on me this year :D  In fairness i don't see me playing to many games this year as i've another role on the team but if them we feckers don't cut it i'll have the trackie off and the gut out shouting to big Sam McClatch :D

Was reading about your new role in the Liar there. Too many chiefs was always the problem with the Lurgan Blues. I take it Bumpy is still going to be playing?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 24, 2008, 05:29:17 PM
Quote from: Donagh on January 24, 2008, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 24, 2008, 05:03:16 PM
Well the top was tight last year so it will be like blue skin on me this year :D  In fairness i don't see me playing to many games this year as i've another role on the team but if them we feckers don't cut it i'll have the trackie off and the gut out shouting to big Sam McClatch :D

Was reading about your new role in the Liar there. Too many chiefs was always the problem with the Lurgan Blues. I take it Bumpy is still going to be playing?

O yes he'll def be playing. Sorry but i refuse to read that sh1te in the Liar as Eugene Creaney knows more about a Pan Loaf
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 24, 2008, 06:30:55 PM
Quote from: MOJO on January 24, 2008, 05:22:00 PM
Never mind about Tyrone, what about the state of club football in Armagh. The County Board refuse to divise a system that truly reflect teams capabilities. Our Intermediate, Junior, Minor & U-21 Championships are a complete joke 'Cross Vs Grange' (U-21 I think) is one noteable match-up. If proof is needed take a look at last years opening round results of these underage competitions. Surely for Club football to prosper we need a total overhaul of  how these competitions are decided.

Aye but good luck with trying to get anyone to sort it out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on January 24, 2008, 07:34:06 PM
rumor has it that a south armagh manager turned down 20,000 a year to manage a club in tyrone . looney.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on January 24, 2008, 07:57:19 PM
Former Armagh coaching officer, Paul Kelly, has been handed a new role in the county as chairman of the Armagh Hurling Board.

Although not all the relevant information was available at the time of going to press it is known that Paul's new role was ratified at a county board meeting on Monday night.

The Lurgan man for the past five years held the office of Armagh coaching officer which was primarily a football position, but with the county's hurling board out of office for the past number of seasons the move could be seen by some as an attempt to stabilise hurling in Armagh, which recently has been going through a difficult period.

Paul Kelly recently made no secret of the fact that in his opinion he was 'by-passed' for the Armagh Under-21 job yet his recent appointment has come as a surprise and could cause ripples amongst some of the more traditional hurling folk


Courtesy Lurgan Mail
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hightower on January 24, 2008, 08:39:36 PM
any word on ulster football league groups
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 24, 2008, 09:05:58 PM
yes, they are a few pages back on this thread, on the thread about the ulster league in the GAA discussion (that's probably fell back a few pages) and on orchardcounty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hightower on January 24, 2008, 09:15:54 PM
cheers pints
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on January 24, 2008, 09:24:49 PM
Quote from: gander on January 24, 2008, 09:12:32 AM
Quotei notice that from the panel listed, to my knowledge there is no players listed who are eligible for the u21 team this year whi is also run in the early part of the year. from this i would imagine that the door for the likes of k o'rourke, etc is still open and these lads will join the panel if and when armagh's interest in the u21 championships is finished

Stefan Forker is def eligible for U21, Michael O'Rourke is as well I think.

michael o'rourke captained the u21s the season before last in his last year as an under 21. think your correct on forker though according to the irish news today.

on the ammalamated teams, have played against cavanakill gaels before (newtown and beleek) so i presume the cavanakill emmets would also include players from dorsey emmets. still, when we played them they were still useless. no offence intended.

And paul kelly wasnt by-passed for the u21 job, it was never a case of mcdonnell vacating the post in the first place. kelly was actually looking to be involved with the minors again to my knowledge.... mcshane had other ideas and has landed the job.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lisdoon1 on January 24, 2008, 10:13:32 PM
Quote from: topgun on September 10, 2007, 11:39:37 AM
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Thanks Topgun

Top gun, did you actually do this? How much did you raise?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: balladmaker on January 24, 2008, 10:30:53 PM
Can anyone confirm the name of the new Wolfe Tones manager?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Out in Front on January 25, 2008, 12:18:26 AM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 25, 2008, 09:14:43 AM
Quote from: balladmaker on January 24, 2008, 10:30:53 PM
Can anyone confirm the name of the new Wolfe Tones manager?

Mr M Magill from Co Down. £120 a week + expenses. Has he 2 all-irelands or just 1?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on January 25, 2008, 09:17:20 AM
It's great to have the championship fixtures sorted out and published in January. It makes team preparation easier and allows lads to book holidays.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 25, 2008, 09:21:40 AM
Quote from: SouthArmaghBandit on January 25, 2008, 09:17:20 AM
It's great to have the championship fixtures sorted out and published in January. It makes team preparation easier and allows lads to book holidays.
I wouldnt say they are sorted out, they are a complete f*ck up!!!! >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 25, 2008, 11:19:46 AM
Quote from: SouthArmaghBandit on January 25, 2008, 09:17:20 AM
It's great to have the championship fixtures sorted out and published in January. It makes team preparation easier and allows lads to book holidays.

Just because dates have been set doesnt mean games will be played then, going on previous years
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: balladmaker on January 25, 2008, 12:02:01 PM
QuoteMr M Magill from Co Down. £120 a week + expenses. Has he 2 all-irelands or just 1?

That's what I heard rumoured but was surprised by it.  Thanks for confirming.  I wonder what the connection was to bring him from Warrenpoint to Derrymacash?

From memory, I think he has one All Ireland, not sure about 2, but I stand to be corrected.  I remember he had to stop playing due to a serious head injury, he was told that one more heavy knock to the head could kill him. 

Don't know what prior managerial experience he has, maybe just cutting his teeth with the Tones.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 25, 2008, 12:34:15 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on January 25, 2008, 12:02:01 PM
QuoteMr M Magill from Co Down. £120 a week + expenses. Has he 2 all-irelands or just 1?

That's what I heard rumoured but was surprised by it.  Thanks for confirming.  I wonder what the connection was to bring him from Warrenpoint to Derrymacash?

From memory, I think he has one All Ireland, not sure about 2, but I stand to be corrected.  I remember he had to stop playing due to a serious head injury, he was told that one more heavy knock to the head could kill him. 

Don't know what prior managerial experience he has, maybe just cutting his teeth with the Tones.

You would have thought they would have learned their lesson last year with a rookie manager. But i suppose you have to start somewhere. A member of the tones committee told me 2 weeks ago before M Magill was appointed that they would never go down the road of paying anyone to manage their club ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 25, 2008, 12:41:45 PM
Magill managed his own club - warrenpoint - last year. he was one all ireland from 94, when he won mom in the final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 25, 2008, 02:48:42 PM
That dig in the head magill took must have been very serious because he has taken the tones job :) ;) I hear he has started special diets and stuff with the lads and all. But this could be shite as lurgan is a sesspit for rumours.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on January 25, 2008, 03:12:33 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 25, 2008, 02:48:42 PM
That dig in the head magill took must have been very serious because he has taken the tones job :) ;) I hear he has started special diets and stuff with the lads and all. But this could be shite as lurgan is a sesspit for rumours.


not 2 long ago clannagael were in the same division as the tones are in now.if ohagan and diarmuid retire u could be bck in it very soon
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 25, 2008, 04:40:43 PM
Quote from: altovito on January 25, 2008, 03:12:33 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 25, 2008, 02:48:42 PM
That dig in the head magill took must have been very serious because he has taken the tones job :) ;) I hear he has started special diets and stuff with the lads and all. But this could be shite as lurgan is a sesspit for rumours.


not 2 long ago clannagael were in the same division as the tones are in now.if ohagan and diarmuid retire u could be bck in it very soon

Well there was a slight difference. We came straight back up with almost a perfect record, the Tones almost got relegated to div 3 and only stayed up with the skin of their bell ends.

Anyhow you lot seem to enjoy that div as you have permanent residence in it now ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on January 26, 2008, 09:09:33 PM
doh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 27, 2008, 12:10:07 AM
And going down to that same division where ther Tones were and still are was a complete humiliation for our whole cub and every player involved. But guess what, we got two good men at the helm and made use of Clans people and came straight back up the following year and reached a championship final. We didn't bring any mercenaries in to help us out of the mess we had got ourselves into. You say we could be back in that league again when o Hagan and Diarmuid leave. If this is the case then at least we can count on a local derby game with theTones that is providing you don't go down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on January 27, 2008, 12:33:31 PM
Thats fighting talk winsamsoon ;D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 27, 2008, 12:41:08 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 25, 2008, 12:34:15 PM
Quote from: balladmaker on January 25, 2008, 12:02:01 PM
QuoteMr M Magill from Co Down. £120 a week + expenses. Has he 2 all-irelands or just 1?

That's what I heard rumoured but was surprised by it.  Thanks for confirming.  I wonder what the connection was to bring him from Warrenpoint to Derrymacash?

From memory, I think he has one All Ireland, not sure about 2, but I stand to be corrected.  I remember he had to stop playing due to a serious head injury, he was told that one more heavy knock to the head could kill him. 

Don't know what prior managerial experience he has, maybe just cutting his teeth with the Tones.

You would have thought they would have learned their lesson last year with a rookie manager. But i suppose you have to start somewhere. A member of the tones committee told me 2 weeks ago before M Magill was appointed that they would never go down the road of paying anyone to manage their club ::) ::)

I only seen them once last year but it was quite clear what their problem was, to many big dirty bastards with no football in them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 27, 2008, 10:27:19 PM
Pints i think that is the best one you have ever came out with :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 27, 2008, 10:30:18 PM
It's true. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 28, 2008, 12:52:35 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 27, 2008, 10:30:18 PM
It's true. 

:D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Spiritof98 on January 28, 2008, 02:49:04 PM
When do the Championship draws be made for the Football and Hurling, prob been said before but Im on a flying visit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 28, 2008, 02:54:12 PM
Quote from: Spiritof98 on January 28, 2008, 02:49:04 PM
When do the Championship draws be made for the Football and Hurling, prob been said before but Im on a flying visit.

Check a few pages back lad!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 28, 2008, 03:45:13 PM
Unless i picked it up wrong I think Armagh v Roscommon is scheduled for Davitt Park, not sure what date that is but i heard them complaining the other night about the availability of the pitch as Armagh hurlers were looking to train on the pitch as well :o :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 28, 2008, 08:29:29 PM
Got the aul fella one of them season tickets for the NFL for Christmas and I'm fairly sure it says all the home games are in Cross. Could have have changed though I suppose.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 29, 2008, 08:05:15 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 28, 2008, 08:29:29 PM
Got the aul fella one of them season tickets for the NFL for Christmas and I'm fairly sure it says all the home games are in Cross. Could have have changed though I suppose.

Can you get them on the gate on Sunday? How much?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 29, 2008, 10:19:26 AM
We play in the Ulster Laegue on Sunday and the following 4 Sunday's so i'll miss most of Armagh's league games. Thats the down side of club football and then people moan at you for just attending Championship games but what can you do.

Them season tickets for the league games sound like a good idea. How much are they and do they cover away games too?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 29, 2008, 11:17:36 AM

Anyone care tohazarda guess at a team for sunday? i understand there are a few injuries including a mallon, c mckeever, a o'rourke, c vernon, m o'rourke.

McKinney, moriarty, mcnulty, McCoy, Duffy, Quinn, shannon, McGrane, Loughran, o'rourke, mallon, courtney, mcdonnell, clarke, mckeever.

?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 29, 2008, 12:06:56 PM
Don't liek the look of your half back line Uladh, but there's prob not a big pile else that can be done under the circumstances.

Did I see that the game on TG4 as the second game??  I hardly get up either as the Harps are playing Senior & B games in teh Ulster League, weather permitting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 29, 2008, 01:22:23 PM
The backs are a bit depleated at the minute, i think that was the main reason that 8 under 21s were called in, the majority being backs...

McKinney,
moriarty,
Donaghy
McCoy,
Duffy,
Quinn,
??
McGrane,
Loughran, o neill
o'rourke,
mallon,
Loughran
mcdonnell,
clarke,
mckeever

i heard the other day that toner is also back from australia!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on January 29, 2008, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 29, 2008, 10:19:26 AM
We play in the Ulster Laegue on Sunday and the following 4 Sunday's so i'll miss most of Armagh's league games. Thats the down side of club football and then people moan at you for just attending Championship games but what can you do.

Them season tickets for the league games sound like a good idea. How much are they and do they cover away games too?

you only get accused of that on orchard county illdecide... because your not fully supporting the "legends"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 29, 2008, 02:51:01 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on January 29, 2008, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 29, 2008, 10:19:26 AM
We play in the Ulster Laegue on Sunday and the following 4 Sunday's so i'll miss most of Armagh's league games. Thats the down side of club football and then people moan at you for just attending Championship games but what can you do.

Them season tickets for the league games sound like a good idea. How much are they and do they cover away games too?

you only get accused of that on orchard county illdecide... because your not fully supporting the "legends"

your prob right son. It's good to have you back on the board ;) Does your woman know? ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 29, 2008, 02:53:20 PM
That's the stuff get into him :D :D :D :D :D


Here dome driver is there any fantasy football on this site for the national leagues games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on January 29, 2008, 05:13:08 PM
Quotei heard the other day that toner is also back from australia!

True, and as far as I know he's returning/has returned to training with the County team!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on January 29, 2008, 07:37:46 PM
Going in to the first real competitive match in my eyes of 2008, i am really interesting to see the selection of what i would call 'Our problem Line', - the half forward line.  Personally i still feel John Mac would be my center half forward any day, but for one reason or another through club commitments / retirement we have to look else where, for now (Hoping Peter can persuade him out of inter county retirement of course)

My suggestion would be to play Stephen McDonnell there...Now before i get counter arguments of, why move him when he is doing well where he is ect....For me stephen McDonnell is a class act, a proven goal scorer, but there is much more to his game.   We need to bring a freshness to that area of the field and also a little bit of steel and drive i think.  So the half forward line i would like to see would be;

10. Gregory Loughran
11. Stephen McDonnell
12. Charlie Vernon

What would your half forward line be, because surely this is an area we have got to improve in?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 29, 2008, 08:18:08 PM
There will be no chance of McEntee coming out of retirment.

The team I would like to see  tried on Sunday taking into account injuries.

         McKinney
Mallon McNulty Moriarty
Duffy Vernon Shannon
Courtney McGrane
O Rourke Mallon Loughran
McDonnell ONeill McKeever
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Against the Breeze on January 29, 2008, 08:26:30 PM
Heres my tuppence worth

McKinney
Mallon
Moriarty
Duffy
Ferris
Vernon
Shannon
O'Neill
McGrane
Loughran
Mallon
Courtney
Stevie
Clarke
Dune Eile

I think a view of these is injured and remember reading a post earlier saying Aidan O'Rourke and Ciaran McKeever were injured.  I know what they do need, Firepower up front!

Apologies Corn I meant to put that in... Prob start Paddy McKeever in that case lol

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 29, 2008, 08:52:09 PM
Jeus we are good but not that good against the breeze, I would surely play 15.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 30, 2008, 01:11:16 AM
Lads i know you have to be optimistic but in my opinion there are some player named here that just wouldn't cut it. The likes of Mc nulty and the older members of the squad can be given a bye ball because we know that they willl come good because they are tried and tested. Even though some of them may be struggling at present they will be there come summer. But there are other guys there who have done nothing at club level or any other level but suddenly have appeared in our top lists of players in the county. I am not naming any names specifically because then it will look like personal attacks and vedeta's but i am simply saying that some of the guys on this panel are in no way worthy of a place on a county squad, unless stevie wonder was picking the team then thay would be another story..

On a lighter note is there a fantasy footy link for the national  league campaign the year????????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 30, 2008, 08:40:29 AM
I keep hearing everyone talking about the injured list, who exactly does this include, I have been out of the picture a while, just home from OZ so i missed the entire Mc kenna Cup,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 30, 2008, 08:52:17 AM
Quote from: Against the Breeze on January 29, 2008, 08:26:30 PM
Heres my tuppence worth

McKinney
Mallon
Moriarty
Duffy
Ferris
Vernon
Shannon
O'Neill
McGrane
Loughran
Mallon
Courtney
Stevie
Clarke

I think a view of these is injured and remember reading a post earlier saying Aidan O'Rourke and Ciaran McKeever were injured.  I know what they do need, Firepower up front!



Looks reasonable enough Againstthebreeze, but we would probably be safer starting with 15 players, you are talking about firepower up front, yet you only named 5 forwards
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on January 30, 2008, 09:19:56 AM
Quote from: illdecide on January 29, 2008, 02:51:01 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on January 29, 2008, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 29, 2008, 10:19:26 AM
We play in the Ulster Laegue on Sunday and the following 4 Sunday's so i'll miss most of Armagh's league games. Thats the down side of club football and then people moan at you for just attending Championship games but what can you do.

Them season tickets for the league games sound like a good idea. How much are they and do they cover away games too?

you only get accused of that on orchard county illdecide... because your not fully supporting the "legends"

your prob right son. It's good to have you back on the board ;) Does your woman know? ;D

i'm only dropping in every now and again. and i'm using fuckin dial up internet in work so its slow as feck. the woman doesnt know so dont be telling her when your in seeing her next ;)

winsam if you find the NFL spreads give me a shout...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 30, 2008, 11:40:09 AM
I like the look of corn's team except that he has Gareth O'Neill at FF instead of Clarke??? I haven't heard of him being injured. Real1995, I've Stevie play CHF for Killeavy and he played well there but we need his scoring threat closer to the goals. Bit worried about Sunday as I've heard reports from the Louth challenge game and it was a good tanking, we continued to struggle in midfield with McGrane badly off the pace.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 30, 2008, 11:41:08 AM
Talking to a fella this morning who might have a better stab than the rest of us at a team and he guessed that the following may not be far away:

McKinney
McNulty
Donaghy
Morirty
Duffy
'Rourke
Shannon
O'Neill
McGrane
O'Rourke
Mallon
Loughran g
Stevie
Clarke
McKeever
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 30, 2008, 12:20:23 PM
That wudnt be too bad, mccoy in rather than mcnulty tho.... and i think quinn is most likely to play chb if aidan is not fit
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 30, 2008, 01:44:38 PM
QuoteLads i know you have to be optimistic but in my opinion there are some player named here that just wouldn't cut it. The likes of Mc nulty and the older members of the squad can be given a bye ball because we know that they willl come good because they are tried and tested. Even though some of them may be struggling at present they will be there come summer. But there are other guys there who have done nothing at club level or any other level but suddenly have appeared in our top lists of players in the county. I am not naming any names specifically because then it will look like personal attacks and vedeta's but i am simply saying that some of the guys on this panel are in no way worthy of a place on a county squad, unless stevie wonder was picking the team then thay would be another story..

agree but the sad thing is I'm not sure there's anyone else. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 31, 2008, 09:17:27 AM
If francie isn't available I'd like to see Ciaran Toner in Full Back
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 31, 2008, 09:39:02 AM
Is toner fully fit? i thot he had been away for a while and so wouldnt have been training.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 31, 2008, 09:55:18 AM
Not talking about this sunday, more for later on down the line.  I'd have Moriarty in FB on sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 31, 2008, 11:10:04 AM
Quote from: gander on January 31, 2008, 09:55:18 AM
Not talking about this sunday, more for later on down the line.  I'd have Moriarty in FB on sunday.

I noticed most of you have Moriarty in your team selection but are we talking about the same guy who couldn't get near big Joe's teams and the same guy that some of you said months ago that while watching games involving the Tones you wouldn't have noticed he was a county man by his displays ???

don't get me wrong i love to see guys from North Armagh on the team and if he has improved that much then he deserves his place but i can't see how you can be a pretty average second division player 6 months ago and now a regular on the county team ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 31, 2008, 11:42:10 AM
I've never seen him for the Tones so I wouldn't know.  Always thought he was a decent player, thought he was very good against Muldoon earlier in the year. Plus McNulty is far too slow for full back
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on January 31, 2008, 11:45:20 AM
am not runnin the player down but i think the blues man is rite.although an average player nt up to county standard.anygames he played in div2 last year he looked average. nothing more nothing less.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 31, 2008, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: gander on January 31, 2008, 11:42:10 AM
I've never seen him for the Tones so I wouldn't know.  Always thought he was a decent player, thought he was very good against Muldoon earlier in the year. Plus McNulty is far too slow for full back

He got roasted v Muldoon!!!!!!  :-\

Had a better day v St Marys!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 31, 2008, 11:55:27 AM
How did he get roasted?  Muldoon only got two points, both from frees.  Moriarty won the majority of balls he went for.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 31, 2008, 12:41:38 PM
he wasnt roasted but muldoon did get the better of him and got on the ball far more than he shold have. His experience at that level probably told. 
A few people dont seem to think he is up to it but who are the alternatives?!?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 31, 2008, 12:58:30 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on January 31, 2008, 12:41:38 PM
he wasnt roasted but muldoon did get the better of him and got on the ball far more than he shold have. His experience at that level probably told. 
A few people dont seem to think he is up to it but who are the alternatives?!?!

That's my opinion as well. I personally think he's out of his depth but we don't have many other alternatives. The one thing i can say is that when everyone is fit we will still have a very good team that will take a v good team to beat us, but if we get injury's we do not have the quality in the squad that we had a few years back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 31, 2008, 01:22:52 PM
Radio Ulster are broadcasting Sundays game live - on air from 2pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 31, 2008, 02:01:04 PM
The players are out there if the selection process was done correctly. It is no good picking these players on merit or on their past. With a new manager taking over he should have implemented new trials for everyone and left the book completely opened. Instead he kept the old guard ( the majority of tried and tested under Kernan) and selected a few others from clubs around the county. What he should have done was selected four teams made up of a mixture of clubs. He should then have played  two semi final games and then a final run over two sundays. This would have given him the opportunity to select players on fitness and abilitity. Each club should have been ask to forward the top 4 players whom they felt would warrant a county trial ( Now obviously the likes of Mc Grane and others wouldn't have to attend because in my opinion they would be guaranteed a place on the panel). This way if a lad was selected it would be clear and in the open, then you could turn round and say the system was fair and such and such made it through or didn't. There are clubs that ar vastly under represented on the county squad. My own included. I know for a fact there are lads on our senior squad who are as good as some mentioned but they have never been even approached for a trial. There are many more clubs like this so why not just have a major trial system in place to allow lads a fair crack at county football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 31, 2008, 02:12:14 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 31, 2008, 02:01:04 PM
The players are out there if the selection process was done correctly. It is no good picking these players on merit or on their past. With a new manager taking over he should have implemented new trials for everyone and left the book completely opened. Instead he kept the old guard ( the majority of tried and tested under Kernan) and selected a few others from clubs around the county. What he should have done was selected four teams made up of a mixture of clubs. He should then have played  two semi final games and then a final run over two sundays. This would have given him the opportunity to select players on fitness and abilitity. Each club should have been ask to forward the top 4 players whom they felt would warrant a county trial ( Now obviously the likes of Mc Grane and others wouldn't have to attend because in my opinion they would be guaranteed a place on the panel). This way if a lad was selected it would be clear and in the open, then you could turn round and say the system was fair and such and such made it through or didn't. There are clubs that ar vastly under represented on the county squad. My own included. I know for a fact there are lads on our senior squad who are as good as some mentioned but they have never been even approached for a trial. There are many more clubs like this so why not just have a major trial system in place to allow lads a fair crack at county football.

Correct son. When D McAlinden was invited onto the county squad 2 years ago under Joe he done his cruciate ligament in and Joe told him he would take him back when he got fit. Now Dwyer is flying at the minute and is at his fittest in 3 years but he never even received a trial or the squad for the McKenna cup matches. Michael Austin is another one (and you's talked about earlier "Full Back" position) i know he likes his alcohol and food to much but over the last 3-4 months he has got himself into good shape and is probably at his fittest in 3 years also and it's only January. i know for a fact that if he was part of the Armagh panel he wouldn't piss about.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 31, 2008, 03:43:59 PM
Jimmy two times :) :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 31, 2008, 03:47:07 PM

Lads, if you'd used examples from clubs other than your own your argument might have more credability.

everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on January 31, 2008, 04:24:58 PM
lads can you just all spare a little thought for shauna mccann (r.i.p)

shauna was a 19 year old and played in goals for carrickcruppen ladies team, she was a university in liverpool and took sick on sunday, she unfortunately died on tuesday.

may she rest in peace!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 31, 2008, 04:45:28 PM
Terrible about the young girl, but your last paragraph is balls and irrelevant to your initial post.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 31, 2008, 04:53:19 PM
Quote from: Uladh on January 31, 2008, 03:47:07 PM

Lads, if you'd used examples from clubs other than your own your argument might have more credability.

everyone thinks they have the prettiest wife at home

I don't know other players at other clubs or i would have used them.

Well i have seen a few peoples wives and they couldn't possibly say their's is the prettiest (i get your point ::))

Diesel I'm sorry to hear about that young girl may she RIP. None was questioning their commitment to Armagh we were just saying that some players lack in quality to be on the Armagh panel, it's a discussion board and thats what we were doing Discussing!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on January 31, 2008, 04:56:46 PM
illdecide - i fully respect that but at the end of the day we have to support the armagh management and the team who they seem fit to do best for armagh! there are one or two on the panel who wouldnt be my choice but i still will go to the games and give them my full support!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 31, 2008, 05:07:35 PM

Here we go
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 31, 2008, 05:08:19 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on January 31, 2008, 04:24:58 PM
lads can you just all spare a little thought for shauna mccann (r.i.p)

shauna was a 19 year old and played in goals for carrickcruppen ladies team, she was a university in liverpool and took sick on sunday, she unfortunately died on tuesday.

may she rest in peace!

Jasus thats terrible news, what happened?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on January 31, 2008, 05:58:13 PM
results from the postmortem came back inconclusive so no one knows!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 31, 2008, 07:24:04 PM
Gander, Hank, AFS, altovito, Real1995, onionbag - out of interest, what club are yous from?

(I don't remember if you said)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sean og on January 31, 2008, 09:00:24 PM
prediction for chmp  team.                                                                           
1 hearty
2 mallon
3 o rourke
4 duffy
5 mc keever
6 toner
7 mc keown
8 mc grane
9 lavery
10 b mallon
11 p mc keever
12 a kernan
13 mc donnell
14 clarke
15 mc connville
                                                                                                                                       
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 01, 2008, 08:53:49 AM
Ballymacnab  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 01, 2008, 08:57:56 AM
Donaghy in full back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 01, 2008, 08:59:34 AM
Quote from: sean og on January 31, 2008, 09:00:24 PM
prediction for chmp  team.                                                                           
1 hearty
2 mallon
3 o rourke
4 duffy
5 mc keever
6 toner
7 mc keown
8 mc grane
9 lavery
10 b mallon
11 p mc keever
12 a kernan
13 mc donnell
14 clarke
15 mc connville
                                                                                                                                       

I'll take a stab at it

1 P Hearty
2 A Mallon
3 K Toner
4 F Moriarty/E Mc Nulty
5 A Kernan
6 K Mc Keever
7 P Duffy
8 P Mc Grane
9 J Lavery
10 P Mc Keever
11 B Mallon
12 G Loughran
13 S Mc Donnell
14 R Clarke
15 O Mc Conville

Just my opinion, Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 01, 2008, 09:01:04 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 31, 2008, 07:24:04 PM
Gander, Hank, AFS, altovito, Real1995, onionbag - out of interest, what club are yous from?

(I don't remember if you said)

Ballymacnab  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on February 01, 2008, 09:04:56 AM
diesal gave me a ring at work
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on February 01, 2008, 09:05:30 AM
From TG4 site.

SUNDAY - 3rd FEBRUARY
14:00 - GAA Beo - Galway - vs- Laois
Armagh -vs- Cavan
Donegal -vs- Kerry

I assume this means the whole match will be shown after the live Galway - vs- Laois game.

for wat its worth heres my prediction for chmp team.                                                                            
1 hearty
2 mallon
3 toner
4 mccoy
5 mc keever
6 o rourke
7 a kernan
8 mc grane
9 oneill
10 loughran / orourke
11 b mallon
12 p mc keever
13 mc donnell
14 clarke
15 mc connville

Others players that can be called on...

k - mckinney
F.b donaghy mcnulty bellew moriarty
h.b - duffy mckeown
M.f - lavery loughran
h.f - vernon courtney
f.f - t kernan forker swift



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on February 01, 2008, 09:10:07 AM
newtown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on February 01, 2008, 10:31:50 AM
Bit early to be looking at a championship side lads. the only comment i'd make there is that i'm not sure paddy mckeever will make a championship starter this year.

Team for sunday -

McKinney

McNulty
Donaghy
Moriarty

Duffy
O'Rourke
Smyth

McGrane (c)
O'Neill

Mallon
McKeever
O'Rourke

Swift
Clarke
McDonnell
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on February 01, 2008, 10:55:48 AM
Uladh, is that your guess at Sunday's team or is that the team announced?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 01, 2008, 11:06:47 AM
Thats the team is it not.  it's the one i heard anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on February 01, 2008, 11:52:41 AM

Thats the team. looks reasonably strong. i'd have reservations about Donaghy and smyth but not bad overall
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 01, 2008, 11:57:59 AM
It'll be interesting to see how the FF line does.  That could be a pretty good combination
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on February 01, 2008, 12:04:23 PM
can anyone confirm where they heard or seen the team for sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on February 01, 2008, 12:07:59 PM
Did u not pick the team topgun??? I thought you were well in there....  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 01, 2008, 12:09:22 PM
Quote from: topgun on February 01, 2008, 12:04:23 PM
can anyone confirm where they heard or seen the team for sunday?

From a player, via a friend...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on February 01, 2008, 12:13:02 PM
QuoteIt'll be interesting to see how the FF line does.  That could be a pretty good combination

I'm sure Nippy will play out around the middle.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on February 01, 2008, 12:14:18 PM
who is smyth?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on February 01, 2008, 12:31:02 PM
I assume it's Gareth Smyth from Mullaghbawn, I would have him in the 'slightly dodgy' section, could get cleaned in the HB line, far better in the Fb line.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 01, 2008, 01:27:29 PM
Quote from: Louis the Red on February 01, 2008, 12:13:02 PM
QuoteIt'll be interesting to see how the FF line does.  That could be a pretty good combination

I'm sure Nippy will play out around the middle.

well that is the usual way armagh plays, but i would still like to see a 3 man full forward as a plan b
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on February 01, 2008, 01:59:57 PM
Aye but if they were to play the traditional 3man FF line i don't think Nippy would be the choice corner forward, possibly someone like McCone or Forker instead
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 01, 2008, 02:27:59 PM
Uladh if your read correctly what i had written i never used any names from Clan Na Gael and i also said other clubs would have the same grievances. This is not about Clan Na Gael, it is about all the clubs in Armagh. Some clubs are under represented whilst others are over. The trial idea would sort out a lot of the unanswered questions as to why certain individuals are not making the senior county squad. As i'll decide quite correctly points out he was only using an example from our club because, he is from our club. He is totally correct in doing so because the particular case is well capable of playing for the county at the present time( again my opinion). So lets not make it into a Clan Na Gael versus the county thing. Once again it is all clubs within Armagh and i am sure all Club representitive will feel the same way. They will all feel there are players on the panel that are not worthy and indeed they will list you several worthy replacements ( This could be biased). A trial system would certainly go a small way to solving the debates on this issue.

Diesel that is the first i have heard about that young girl and that is trully a devastating loss for Carrickcruppen and indeed the whole GAA Community. To loose someone so young and who seemed to have so much promise is a tradgedy.Our thoughts can only be with her family. May she rest in peace.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: seeheartalk on February 01, 2008, 03:42:47 PM
What is all this selection huffing and puffing about?
Every club secretary was asked to forward names for U21 and senior trials.  Most clubs did not hold any meetings over Nov/Dec or bother to contact their managers or managers decided not to send their players on trails on self interest. Anyway a good few players decided not to bother - P Loughran as an example.
That is why Armagh is left with the players it has.
If you think your club player is good enough then ask your county delegate what have they done about it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 01, 2008, 03:58:24 PM
Our county delegate is the chairman and i really don't think our club was ask to forward any players to a trial. It should be up to the manager of the team to approach the clubs and find out by watching club gamesthe players with ability. A list should then be put in the paper insted of the secret service that you clain has occured.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on February 01, 2008, 04:34:31 PM
There was a list for the U21 team trials anyway, dunno about seniors.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on February 01, 2008, 06:13:59 PM
I would like to wish gareth symth all the best for Sunday, here is a player who has worked so hard at club level and has final got his chance for the county.  He has been outstanding for St Marys this past 4 yrs and i am sure he will make the most of his chance on sun
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 01, 2008, 08:26:25 PM
Macker I was suggesting O'Neill at FF just as ab after though in case Clarke was still not one hundred percent. I know it is an important match but I would still not want players rushing back too early.

Win while I take your point on board regarding the trials I would have a few reservations about it. It is a very good idea but I believe that the majority of players who are County standard are on or have had a chance with Armagh. Dwyer is obviously getting a raw deal and he is an exception. I believe every clubs has players who believe and who have fans who believe they are good enough for County. My own club included, Crossmaglen included and Clan Na Gael included. Come Championship time, the panel will be  basically 99% the best squad in the County.

The reason I would have reservations about your semi final / final idea is that I think that watching a player and hearing reports on a player over a season is more beneficial than having two games were the best forward in the County may have a couple of off days. There is merit in your reasoning Win, and it is annoying when players do not get a fair shout.

Regarding Sunday, I will expect us to have four points to spare. Armagh each way for the league is a good bet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 01, 2008, 11:09:27 PM
Wouldn't be too fussed on trials meself. Think they are a bit fake as true matches given that everyone, however genuine and unselfish they may be, is still looking to make an impression for themselves rather than necessarily doing the best thing for the team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on February 02, 2008, 12:02:28 AM
Trails don't work IMO. You only have to look at the colleges All Star systems and some of the results it throws up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on February 02, 2008, 04:20:30 PM
Got my Club Tachaiochta Ard Mhacha package in the post this morning. Imagine my excitement as I inspected the contents:

a Club Tachaiochta Ard Mhacha orange wrist band
a Club Tachaiochta Ard Mhacha car sticker
a Club Tachaiochta Ard Mhacha key ring
a Club Tachaiochta Ard Mhacha lapel pin
a Club Tachaiochta Ard Mhacha membership card

Most worrying was my membership number - 003

So only two other suckers fell for this scam!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on February 03, 2008, 02:46:10 PM
what about the orchard club?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on February 03, 2008, 05:43:42 PM
does anyone have a decent match report on the game today scorers etc never seen the tg4 coverage over in england
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sean og on February 03, 2008, 06:56:43 PM
terrible display in the first half lack of shooting practice from our FF line,great 2nd half with TK kicking some great points and PD playing well in the H/B line thought big o neill worked hard all day
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 03, 2008, 07:07:44 PM
Was working, but did I hear right? 11 pound in?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on February 03, 2008, 07:08:08 PM
Allianz NFL Division Two
ARMAGH LEAVE IT LATE TO BEAT CAVAN

Armagh   0-14
Cavan    1-10
Tony Kernan was the hero for Armagh after five second half scores helped the Orchard County to a seemingly impossible win over Cavan in Crossmaglen.
Kernan was introduced as a substitute at half time when Armagh were five points down.
But after the Crossmaglen man was given permission to play for his county despite and All-Ireland Club semi-final later this month, he wasted no time as he slotted over four frees and a point from play on his league debut.
Kernan, 21, only returned to from a broken collarbone last weekend but showed no ring rustiness as he helped turn a 1-5 to 0-3 deficit at the interval into a one-point victory after 70 minutes.
Armagh actually opened the scoring on five minutes through Ronan Clarke, playing inter-county football for the first time since tearing cruciate knee ligaments in the All-Ireland quarter-final defeat to Kerry in 2006.
But Peter McDonnell's men would go another 25 minutes without a score as Cavan registered a Martin Reilly point and two frees and another placed ball from Seanie Johnston.
But the real damage occurred 18 minutes in when A Paraic Reilly high ball found its way to an unmarked Jason O'Reilly who blasted a low shot towards goal.
Ciarán McKinney did manage to touch the effort onto his left post but Johnston sped in to tap to an exposed net.
Paddy McKeever halted the visitors dominance with two frees late on in the first half but his team mates had been guilty of hitting six wides at that stage and missing four clear goal opportunities.
It was a different story after the break Kernan and Ciarán McKeever were introduced and the wind was at Armagh's back.
Kernan snatched the first point of the half from close range and that was followed by scores from Martin O'Rourke, Gareth O'Neill and Steven McDonnell to put just one between the sides.
Kernan's third free then gained parity and it was his accuracy from the dead ball that finally gave Armagh the lead on 68 minutes.
Stephen Kernan then put two between the sides and Barry Watters late white flag for Cavan was mere consolation.
Armagh: C McKinney; E McNulty, B Donaghy, F Moriarty; G Smyth, A O'Rourke, P Duffy; G O'Neill 0-1, P McGrane; M O'Rourke 0-1, B Mallon, P McKeever 0-2, 2f; G Swift, R Clarke 0-2, S McDonnell 0-1.
Substitutes: C McKeever for G Smyth (on 36 minutes), T Kernan 0-5, 4f for B Mallon (36), S Kernan 0-2 for P McKeever (52) and K Toner for G Swift (57).
Cavan: James Reilly; M Hannon, R Dunne, K Fannin; B Watters 0-1, P Reilly, J McCutcheon 0-1; L Mulvey, J Cunningham; M Reilly 0-4, 2f, R Donohoe, A Forde; Jason O'Reilly, E O'Reilly, S Johnston 1-4, 3f.
Substitutes: M Lyng for K Fannin (on 34 minutes), G Pierson for J O'Reilly (47), S Brady for E O'Reilly (61) and M Cunningham for R Donohoe (70).
Referee: C Reilly (Meath).


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on February 03, 2008, 08:10:09 PM
Quote from: corn02 on February 03, 2008, 07:07:44 PM
Was working, but did I hear right? 11 pound in?

surely you should have been at the game taking notes corn....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on February 03, 2008, 08:12:21 PM
cross's continued involvement all winter in the club championships clearly showed in both kernans displays. the rangers must be doing plenty of shooting practice. mcdonnell and mckeever could do with a bit at the min.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 03, 2008, 08:17:23 PM
Notepad left at home QUB,  was nowhere near Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on February 03, 2008, 10:04:36 PM
Thought the second half performance today was very encouraging.. The introduction of the Kernans won the game for us..  The prospect of TK really excites me, and that was the one huge bonus of todays game.  Credit to Peter McDonnell because each substution he made worked today.  Credit to see Paul Duffy back on form.  One downside however was our full back line....Donaghy clearly looks more comfortable further out the field than around the square
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 03, 2008, 10:07:46 PM
QuoteWas working, but did I hear right? 11 pound in?

Ya heard right.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on February 03, 2008, 10:39:02 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 03, 2008, 10:07:46 PM
QuoteWas working, but did I hear right? 11 pound in?

Ya heard right.

Ahh the joys of still being a student it was only 5 euro in today
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 03, 2008, 11:13:24 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on February 03, 2008, 10:04:36 PM
The prospect of TK really excites me, and that was the one huge bonus

Hope the that is meant to be bonus and not something else...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 04, 2008, 07:51:22 AM
Why was it £10 into Omagh on Saturday night & £11 into Cross yesterday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 04, 2008, 08:53:26 AM
The shooting yesterday was terrible, the shots that Mc Donnell and Mc Keever missed were something that you would see in a U12 game. Had they been taken by one of the rookies, everyone would have been asking the question as to why they are even there. I mean 14 yard kicks, its school boy stuff   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 04, 2008, 09:41:31 AM
Lads i hope i'm not stirring anything up but i heard from a good friend of John McEntee that he was going back to Armagh for another year and that the only reason he quit in the first place was because of Joe K
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on February 04, 2008, 09:45:41 AM
QuoteWhy was it £10 into Omagh on Saturday night & £11 into Cross yesterday?

I've a funny feeling Armagh charge an extra quid in which goes to the players fund or something like that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 04, 2008, 10:15:03 AM
Quote from: illdecide on February 04, 2008, 09:41:31 AM
Lads i hope i'm not stirring anything up but i heard from a good friend of John McEntee that he was going back to Armagh for another year and that the only reason he quit in the first place was because of Joe K

How reliable is yours source ILLDECIDE? if he came back, i would assume Tony would come back too, 2 good options for defence and attack,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 04, 2008, 10:20:21 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on February 04, 2008, 10:15:03 AM
Quote from: illdecide on February 04, 2008, 09:41:31 AM
Lads i hope i'm not stirring anything up but i heard from a good friend of John McEntee that he was going back to Armagh for another year and that the only reason he quit in the first place was because of Joe K

How reliable is yours source ILLDECIDE? if he came back, i would assume Tony would come back too, 2 good options for defence and attack,

Thats what you would think but this guy said Tony doesn't want to come back it's only John looking to return. I know him and Joe didn't get on and maybe he's trying to prove a point (only a guess) but i can only tell you what i heard...it may be truth or pure manure time will tell
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on February 04, 2008, 10:23:56 AM
how'd it go yesterday chief? a wee report?
i was talking to donut who was of course blowing about some point he scored! lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 04, 2008, 10:26:15 AM
Does anyone want to have a go at a Player rating from yesterdays game, (Irish news style)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on February 04, 2008, 10:58:24 AM
McKinney 6
McNulty 7
Donaghy 5
Moriarity 6
Symth 6
O'Rourke 8
Duffy 8
McGrane 6
O'Neill 7
O 'Rourke 8
Mallon 4
McKeever 5
McDonell 5
Clarke 7
Swft 6

T kernan 9
S Kernan 8
McKeever 7 (Didn like the dive, clean it up son!)
Toner 7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 04, 2008, 11:15:52 AM
McKinney   - 8   Decent kick outs, safe hands & 2 good stops! (Unfortunate with the goal)
Finn Mo   - 7   Not a bad marking job on the Cavan danger man. He's getting better each game. Not great on high ball!
Donaghy   - 7   Don't have full confidence in him under the high ball. Decent marker & good footballer.
Enda   - 6   At fault for the goal. Decent marking job.   
Smyth   - 6   Found it tough v Forde. Battled well though.   
AOR   - 8   Cool as a cucumber. Picked up a lot of ball.  Distribution superb (mostly).   
Duffy   - 8   Very Sharp. Great comeback! C'ship starter!   
McGrane   - 7   Didn't win as much ball as usual. Work rate unquestionable!
O'Neill   - 8   Broke a lot of ball. Looked dangerous in full forward line.
MOR   - 8   Superb 2nd half. Deserved his point. Picks up unbelievable amount of break ball.   
Wee Brian   - 5   Couldn't get on the ball!
Paddy McK   - 7   Worked hard. 1 bad wide from a free... & another he should be capable of!
Nippy   - 7   Only forward to get on the ball in the first half. Worked hard – good option!
Ronan   - 7   On another day could have had 3 goals! Makes things happen! Good to see him back!
Stevie   - 6   Left his shooting boots at home. Still his link up play was good. Safe hands as usual!

Subs

C McK   - 8   Won a lot of break ball. Distribution was better.
T Kernan   - 9   Superb debut. If only he was on in the 1st half...
S Kernan   - 8   Great cameo, hopefully the doubters will get behind him this year!
Toner   - 7   Tried hard. Another good option
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 04, 2008, 11:18:06 AM
Quote from: Real1995 on February 04, 2008, 10:58:24 AM
McKinney 6
McNulty 7
Donaghy 5
Moriarity 6
Symth 6
O'Rourke 8
Duffy 8
McGrane 6
O'Neill 7
O 'Rourke 8
Mallon 4
McKeever 5
McDonell 5
Clarke 7
Swft 6

T kernan 9
S Kernan 8
McKeever 7 (Didn like the dive, clean it up son!)
Toner 7

I think you are being over genourous, I thought Moriarity was poor, his man got the bette of him 9 times out of 10 and he fouled a lot, i would give him 4/5
Smyth and o rourke both, i thought were quite enough. Smyth touched leather about 5 times. and o rourke i tought was a bit slow, not my 1st choice center half back, although saying he did try.

Mc Grane was quite and I thought O neill tried the hardest of evryone on the team, The jury is still out on him, took a lovely score.

M  O rourke, had the usual dogged display worked hard and ran at the defence, he seems to love them sort of conditions. a worthy 8

Mallon just back from Injury and it stuck out like a sore thumb, a bit rusty, but he'll get there,

Mc Keever and Mc Donnell had shockers, our so called established experienced attakers, the guys we were relying on. like i said in an earlier post had a rookie missed the shots they missed, they would not have lasted much longer.

Clarke Although a bit rusty on the scoring front, showed well and looked sharp for a man who has not played competitve football in a year.

Swift i think tried too hard at times, although got into some great positions.

Mc Kinney - 7 kick outs were good, no real chance of saving the goal
Mc Nulty - 6 Give away some easy ball with horrific passing, but was on the line a couple of times to save a couple,
Donaghy - 6 Needs more time on the sqaure to adapt
Moriarity - 5
Smyth - 5
O rourke - 7
Duffy - 7/8 Good steady performance although he may have been guilty of ball watching on a few occasions, his man ran riot for a while
Mc Grane - 6, quite by his standards, Heres hoping hes saving himself
O Neill - 7
O Rourke - 8
Mallon - 4
Mc Keever -5
Mc Donnell -5
Clarke - 7
Swift -6

T Kernan - 9, Brilliant performance, Totally proved himself as a contender for c'ship starter
S kernan - 8 took a couple of lovely points. maybe changed the mind of a couple of people
Toner - didnt set the place on fire but never done anything wrong

Just my opinion, Anyone want to make comment, feel free!  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 04, 2008, 11:21:41 AM
QuoteJust my opinion, Anyone want to make comment, feel free! 

Ye couldn't fault their effort. That's why some of them got ane extra mark off me!

Ye can't ask for more than that!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on February 04, 2008, 11:33:26 AM
I liked the attitude of O'Neill, shows that he really wants to make it......I feel that if stevie misses his first two frees i wouldn let him take another.....because he would miss them from anywhere if he is off them.....for the next game we need to look at our full back line, and maybe try someone new in the corner..Nippy is a good player but not a corner forward....what was wrong with vernon yest, thought he would hav got a few mins???  Full back line for the next game??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 04, 2008, 11:42:37 AM
Quote from: Real1995 on February 04, 2008, 11:33:26 AM
I liked the attitude of O'Neill, shows that he really wants to make it......I feel that if stevie misses his first two frees i wouldn let him take another.....because he would miss them from anywhere if he is off them.....for the next game we need to look at our full back line, and maybe try someone new in the corner..Nippy is a good player but not a corner forward....what was wrong with vernon yest, thought he would hav got a few mins???  Full back line for the next game??

I would give the same guys another run? for at least 20-30 mins, and see what they shape up, you cant judge a guy over 70 mins.

Goatsdoshave i wish you had been my teacher, Givng extra marks for effort!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on February 04, 2008, 11:49:09 AM
Vernon wasn't even togged out yesterday, dunno what the story is.  Maybe something to do with QUB or something?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 04, 2008, 11:51:23 AM
Gregory Loughran was another option, i would have taken Mc Donnell off and used Loughran, but then again , im not the Manager
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 04, 2008, 11:53:11 AM
Charlie had a shoulder injury i'm told.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 04, 2008, 12:12:44 PM
Ok lads and Lassies, I know its a bit early and that but does anyone want to take a stab at picking the 1st 15 for 1st round of the c'ship. with all players available, no injuries ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 04, 2008, 12:30:48 PM
Going to make an effort

1. C Mc Kinney
2. A Mallon
3. F Bellew
4. F Moriarity
5. A Kernan
6. K Mc Keever
7. P Duffy
8. C Vernon
9. P Mc Grane
10. M O Rourke
11. B Mallon
12. G Loughran
13. S Mc Donnell
14. R Clarke
15. O Mc Conville

Options for defence: E Mc Nulty, B Donaghy, A O Rourke, K Toner, G Smyth,

Options for Midfield: J Lavery, P Loughran, K toner, G O Neill,

Options for Attack: P Mc Keever, G Swift, S Forker, S Kernan, T Kernan, C Clarke, B Mc Cone, L O Hare.

Have probably Left a few guys out, Any opinions?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on February 04, 2008, 12:34:08 PM
1.Hearty
2.Mallon
3.Francie
4.Duffy
5.A Kernan
6. A O'R
7. C McKeever
8.C Vernon
9.P McGrane
10. M O'Rourke
11. J McEntee
12 T Kernan
13.Stevie
14 R Clarke
15 O McConnville

I hav to be honest, the amount of ball that Martin O'Rouke gets is unbelievable....It still early days yet so a few other player like, stephen Kernan, G Loughran, G O'Neill, F Mo, Toner, Donaghy, Lavery, B mallon could force there way in, so lots of competition for places....

tellin u know, John Mac wil be bac in the squad, watch the space
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on February 04, 2008, 01:29:27 PM
Clearly being very premature here, but I have chosen the following team based on who I think may be the 15 best players in those positions come champo time, provided some of them develop as I hope.

1. C Mc Kinney
2. A Mallon
3. K Toner
4. P McKeown
5. A Kernan
6. K Mc Keever
7. P Duffy
8. J Lavery      
9. P Mc Grane
10. C Vernon
11. M O'Rourke
12. T Kernan
13. S Mc Donnell
14. R Clarke
15. P Toal
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on February 04, 2008, 01:38:50 PM
Quote from: Imposerous on February 04, 2008, 01:29:27 PM
Clearly being very premature here, but I have chosen the following team based on who I think may be the 15 best players in those positions come champo time, provided some of them develop as I hope.

1. C Mc Kinney
2. A Mallon
3. K Toner
4. P McKeown
5. A Kernan
6. K Mc Keever
7. P Duffy
8. J Lavery      
9. P Mc Grane
10. C Vernon
11. M O'Rourke
12. T Kernan
13. S Mc Donnell
14. R Clarke
15. P Toal


Forget about it...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 04, 2008, 02:54:42 PM
Whys that Candyman? Is he out on a long term injury? or what is the score?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on February 04, 2008, 03:43:54 PM
He broke the leg months ago playing soccer  ::)
It wasn't healing properly and he had to have an operation and have pins inserted in the leg!!! he'll not be ready to train for a while yet (i dont think) and then he has to get match fit after that???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on February 04, 2008, 06:09:28 PM
1. Hearty
2. A Mallon
3. Bellew
4. Duffy
5. A Kernan
6. A O R
7. McKeever
8. Lavery
9. McGrane
10. Martin O Rourke
11. McDonnell
12. Vernon
13. T Kernan
14. Clarke
15. McConville

Alternatively I could see McConville being sprung from the bench with B Mallon starting...

still early days and I would imagine competition for places will be immense. would love to see p Mckeown make a real push for the number 4 slot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on February 04, 2008, 07:15:17 PM
like the look of ur team qub.........jus hope boys like vernon and lavery can raise the bar this yr, saying that they are not newbies anymore....boys interestin lookin at these selections, are we rulin out McNulty now completely?? the fact that we cannot agree on a starting 15 for me is a good thing, shows that there is lots a compeetion for places...it would be worse if the startin 15 picked itself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on February 04, 2008, 07:17:47 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on February 04, 2008, 07:15:17 PM
like the look of ur team qub.........jus hope boys like vernon and lavery can raise the bar this yr, saying that they are not newbies anymore....boys interestin lookin at these selections, are we rulin out McNulty now completely?? the fact that we cannot agree on a starting 15 for me is a good thing, shows that there is lots a compeetion for places...it would be worse if the startin 15 picked itself

imo i think  mcnulty is slightly passed it, a great servant to the cause and hopefully he could prove me wrong but i feel he best serves the county's needs as a role model to younger lads on the panel and more so as a coach than a championship player.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on February 04, 2008, 08:48:44 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on February 01, 2008, 06:13:59 PM
I would like to wish gareth symth all the best for Sunday, here is a player who has worked so hard at club level and has final got his chance for the county.  He has been outstanding for St Marys this past 4 yrs and i am sure he will make the most of his chance on sun

r u the mrs gareth smyth to be?


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on February 04, 2008, 10:43:28 PM
don,t think that,s fair to smyth . he,s a corner back and with an all ireland in his back pocket. have you one alto.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on February 04, 2008, 11:49:50 PM
Quote from: AFS on February 04, 2008, 08:12:39 PM
Noticed something about Enda yesterday that would make him a certain championship starter for me despite the fact he is probably past his best. He is constantly talking to the players around him, giving encouragement, telling them where they should be for kick outs etc. This leadership is invaluable to the younger boys around him. He has to be in the team this year especially with the absence of Geezer's leadership.

I noticed that too. Both Enda and Aidan did the same in the McKenna cup. Good to see that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on February 04, 2008, 11:59:27 PM
McNulty's waistline presently somewhat resembles my own, but he will be off the biscuits for Lent and will be in better shape as the season goes on. There will be younger legs around, but not the experience.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Out in Front on February 05, 2008, 12:10:28 AM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 05, 2008, 08:42:07 AM
Quote from: altovito on February 04, 2008, 08:48:44 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on February 01, 2008, 06:13:59 PM
I would like to wish gareth symth all the best for Sunday, here is a player who has worked so hard at club level and has final got his chance for the county.  He has been outstanding for St Marys this past 4 yrs and i am sure he will make the most of his chance on sun

r u the mrs gareth smyth to be?




I thought he was crap on Sunday!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 05, 2008, 09:20:38 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 04, 2008, 11:59:27 PM
McNulty's waistline presently somewhat resembles my own, but he will be off the biscuits for Lent and will be in better shape as the season goes on. There will be younger legs around, but not the experience.

Correct chief, Enda will be in much better shape come April/May and he will be a certain starter in the championship. He has an ass like a bag of cement at the minute but he'll shift that over the next 2/3 months. Enda relyes on his speed as his skill levels would not be up there with the best so he knows himself the pounds have to come off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on February 05, 2008, 09:42:35 AM
With everyone fit, my team wud be.......

1. C Mc Kinney
2. A Mallon
3. F Bellew
4. E mcnulty
5. A Kernan
6. K Mc Keever
7. P Duffy
8. G o neill
9. P Mc Grane
10. M O Rourke
11. B Mallon
12. P mc keever
13. S Mc Donnell
14. R Clarke
15. O Mc Conville

Options for defence: B Donaghy, A O Rourke, K Toner, G Smyth,
(moriarty gives away too many frees, toner is an option for full back if francie doesnt make it)

Options for Midfield: J Lavery, P Loughran, K toner,

Options for Attack: G Swift, S Forker, G Loughran T Kernan,
(The most likely change being mcconville took off or the other way about with kernan starting and mcconville coming on to make an impact./ Loughran can also make an impact round haf forward if mckeever of mallon fail to perform)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 05, 2008, 09:46:58 AM
This post won't be well liked, but I'm not sure Francie will ever be the same player again.

I'd be happy with Toner at full back. He's sound on the high ball, & fairly mobile for a big lad.

Though depending on the full forward, we may see alternative Full backs!?

I wouldn't fancy Toner on Tommy Freeman, however he's be the better option v Vinny Corey!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on February 05, 2008, 10:42:21 AM
Heard at the weekend from two very reliable sources that Oisin will NOT play for the county again, unfortunately. The back has gone again, what I've heard is that Cross are going to load him up with painkillers for the semi and hopefully the final also. However, he needs an operation and he has been told if he gets the operation he will not play football again. Both sources are big Cross fans and were suitably depressed that they won't have him again after the semi/final. Didn't sound like a wind-up to me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 05, 2008, 05:23:56 PM
By the sounds of today's Irish News there will onpy be one number six this year, and to be honest the distribution qulaity of the man would make him a starter on my team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on February 05, 2008, 07:11:59 PM
Quote from: mackers on February 05, 2008, 10:42:21 AM
Heard at the weekend from two very reliable sources that Oisin will NOT play for the county again, unfortunately. The back has gone again, what I've heard is that Cross are going to load him up with painkillers for the semi and hopefully the final also. However, he needs an operation and he has been told if he gets the operation he will not play football again. Both sources are big Cross fans and were suitably depressed that they won't have him again after the semi/final. Didn't sound like a wind-up to me.

Its the twilight of his career so no big loss to the county. Gotta move on without him sooner than later.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Surreal Steve on February 05, 2008, 08:08:36 PM
Terrible news about oisin and the back. hoep this man continues in some role for cross or the county setup as he is a real asset to the gaa
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on February 05, 2008, 08:12:00 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 05, 2008, 07:11:59 PM
Quote from: mackers on February 05, 2008, 10:42:21 AM
Heard at the weekend from two very reliable sources that Oisin will NOT play for the county again, unfortunately. The back has gone again, what I've heard is that Cross are going to load him up with painkillers for the semi and hopefully the final also. However, he needs an operation and he has been told if he gets the operation he will not play football again. Both sources are big Cross fans and were suitably depressed that they won't have him again after the semi/final. Didn't sound like a wind-up to me.

Its the twilight of his career so no big loss to the county. Gotta move on without him sooner than later.

how can you say no big loss. he poses a massive scoring threat against any team. I am not his greatest fan but i would have to say that he has impacted armagh football in a huge way. although maybe not the man to play a full county game any more, it didnt stop canavan lifting sam when he was only playing parts of the games for tyrone. what is heartening is the emergence of fellow crossmaglen man tony kernan as what could possibly be a replacement for oisin's scoring exploits. would rather have him than be without.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: passedit on February 05, 2008, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 05, 2008, 07:11:59 PM
Quote from: mackers on February 05, 2008, 10:42:21 AM
Heard at the weekend from two very reliable sources that Oisin will NOT play for the county again, unfortunately. The back has gone again, what I've heard is that Cross are going to load him up with painkillers for the semi and hopefully the final also. However, he needs an operation and he has been told if he gets the operation he will not play football again. Both sources are big Cross fans and were suitably depressed that they won't have him again after the semi/final. Didn't sound like a wind-up to me.

Its the twilight of his career so no big loss to the county. Gotta move on without him sooner than later.

Orior, did you ever consider a career in HR?

Ye'd be a great man with the black binbags.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on February 05, 2008, 09:33:28 PM
ok men, the manager asked me to put out the word to see if we can get some challenge matches organised over the next few weeks before our season starts on the 9th March, so we are a Division 3 team, junior grade, and if you are willing to give us a game, sent me a pm. we would be willing to travel, but not too far! though you could always come up to holywood, take the wifes/partners etc and send them to Ikea while you are playing the game, and it keeps everyone happy!  ;D
cheers guys!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 06, 2008, 02:08:28 PM
We are playing St pauls of Belfast on sunday in the Ulster league.. Is this your team????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 06, 2008, 02:11:36 PM
Orior you are right about one thing we will have to do without mc conville sooner or later but it should be later. He is playing great stuff at the moment( Or had been until this supposed injury that hasn't been confirmed) The man has proved this year with his performances for cross that he is still well capable of doing the business. If this injury has reoccured it will be a massive loss for Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on February 06, 2008, 02:19:54 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 06, 2008, 02:08:28 PM
We are playing St pauls of Belfast on sunday in the Ulster league.. Is this your team????

no mate, they are from West Belfast, we are from Holywood in Down. Thay play in the Antrim league.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on February 06, 2008, 02:20:59 PM
Quote from: hardstation on February 06, 2008, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 06, 2008, 02:08:28 PM
We are playing St pauls of Belfast on sunday in the Ulster league.. Is this your team????
Nah, St.Pauls is a Down hoor.
Speaking of St. Paul's and Down hoors. The St. Paul's that you will be playing on Sunday are managed by Cathal Murray.

hardstation, i may play for a team in the Down leagues, but i ain't no Down hoor!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on February 07, 2008, 09:27:43 AM
Hear Queens gave the U21's an unmerciful hiding last night in Silverbridge.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on February 07, 2008, 10:43:09 AM
Any word on whether Charlie Vernon was playing?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on February 07, 2008, 10:58:43 AM
Dont know but I'd doubt it, Queens are playing in the Sigerson next week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on February 07, 2008, 11:22:38 AM

I heard the u21s were very understrength but that it was quite a hammering ("lucky to score at all").
disappointing to hearas i'd expected a good challenge from armagh this year and i'm not sure how strong queens would be?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 07, 2008, 01:08:17 PM
QuoteI heard the u21s were very understrength but that it was quite a hammering ("lucky to score at all").
disappointing to hearas i'd expected a good challenge from armagh this year and i'm not sure how strong queens would be?

Nowhere near as strong as they've been for the past 4 years.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 07, 2008, 01:12:35 PM
Still not bad though, Queens will give the Sigerson a good rattle again this yea. DCU will win it handy enough though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 07, 2008, 01:39:02 PM
QuoteStill not bad though, Queens will give the Sigerson a good rattle again this yea. DCU will win it handy enough though.

Poly will give DCU a right good game if they meet. Shockin tough draw for Jordanstown though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 07, 2008, 01:43:53 PM
Should there not be a separate thread for this sigerson cup shite!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on February 07, 2008, 01:55:12 PM
Betting available with Boylesports for Sigerson

UCD 3/1 ???
QUB 9/2
UUJ 9/2
DCU 7/1 ???
ST Marys 8/1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 07, 2008, 02:04:56 PM
That is a mix up there. Is there any way if you make that bet that you can click something which guarantees you get those odds?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 07, 2008, 02:10:30 PM
Quote from: corn02 on February 07, 2008, 02:04:56 PM
That is a mix up there. Is there any way if you make that bet that you can click something which guarantees you get those odds?

No, if it's a "Palpable error" then the bookies will change the odds they have given you on your bet.

Obviously one man's palpabe error is different from the next man, but in reality it'll be the bookie's call.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on February 07, 2008, 02:29:41 PM
Looks like an error to me as well, but UCD and DCU both have relatively kind draws up to the semi, maybe that's the factor??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on February 07, 2008, 02:35:41 PM
Bookies have a nice arrangement where if you make a mistake all bets are final, but if they make a mistake to their disadvantage then they just cancel it without explanation. Charming people.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 07, 2008, 02:43:45 PM
So even if the bet is processed at 7/1 it will probably not count?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on February 07, 2008, 03:06:31 PM
They can only clap a palpable error if it is totally out of line with other bookies, if someone else is giving 5/1 for DCU then 7/1 is not ridiculous.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 07, 2008, 03:46:25 PM
Had a palpable mistake once online with a bookie. They paid me out on a footy accum when one of the teams had been beaten. I noticed it that night of the game and took the money out straight away so as it would be into my bank account and they couldn't access this without my permission. Two days later i got an email saying they had made the mistake but i could keep the money (it was brazillian football) I thought this was a decent enough deal and i have been there ever since.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 07, 2008, 04:04:23 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 07, 2008, 03:46:25 PM
Had a palpable mistake once online with a bookie. They paid me out on a footy accum when one of the teams had been beaten. I noticed it that night of the game and took the money out straight away so as it would be into my bank account and they couldn't access this without my permission. Two days later i got an email saying they had made the mistake but i could keep the money (it was brazillian football) I thought this was a decent enough deal and i have been there ever since.

you thief. Taking money that didn't belong to you, shame on you Winsam ;) ;) :D :D

Roll on Sunday so we can get a good go at these Belfast men ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on February 07, 2008, 04:19:32 PM
if the blues wer as xcited about the comin year rather than sum poxy ulster league game it wud suit them better
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 07, 2008, 04:50:41 PM
Quote from: altovito on February 07, 2008, 04:19:32 PM
if the blues wer as xcited about the comin year rather than sum poxy ulster league game it wud suit them better

Jasus there was no call for dishing out the dirt.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on February 07, 2008, 06:55:39 PM
Quote from: Uladh on February 07, 2008, 11:22:38 AM

I heard the u21s were very understrength but that it was quite a hammering ("lucky to score at all").
disappointing to hearas i'd expected a good challenge from armagh this year and i'm not sure how strong queens would be?

queens were at almost full strength with the exception of vernon. and the u21s had very much an experimental outfit on show as the final selections are yet to be made.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on February 08, 2008, 09:47:02 AM
yea i wudnt read much into the under 21's result... it was the trial team out, there were only two players from last year panel on the team, Toner who was just back from america and JJ who was just back from USA and as stated by someone else Queens were more or less full strength.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 08, 2008, 11:51:52 AM
Very good alto once again you have shown your jealousy towards the clans. I am afraid though that myself and i'll decide are above the petty slagging of clubs about silly things. If you are going to talk sense and have a decent discussion on valid points then by all means "do it"  :D, as starsky and hutch would say. If you are not then talk to the hand son.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on February 08, 2008, 12:10:33 PM
I cant understand what the problem is with the Clans entering the Ulster league, they arent on their own and I think its a good idea for a club competition. I wish them all the best and hope they or some of the other Armagh teams in it win the thing. Whats alterego's club anyway? - maybe they werent good enough to be invited into the competition.  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 08, 2008, 12:20:38 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on February 08, 2008, 12:10:33 PM
I cant understand what the problem is with the Clans entering the Ulster league, they arent on their own and I think its a good idea for a club competition. I wish them all the best and hope they or some of the other Armagh teams in it win the thing. Whats alterego's club anyway? - maybe they werent good enough to be invited into the competition.  ;D

R u trying to steal my name?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on February 08, 2008, 12:56:05 PM
Looks like a relation of yours joined the board illdecide :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 08, 2008, 02:39:28 PM
Quote from: full back on February 08, 2008, 12:56:05 PM
Looks like a relation of yours joined the board illdecide :D

Maybe i should start a fan club ;) :D I knew i should have copywritten my username
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on February 08, 2008, 07:53:59 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 08, 2008, 02:39:28 PM
Quote from: full back on February 08, 2008, 12:56:05 PM
Looks like a relation of yours joined the board illdecide :D

Maybe i should start a fan club ;) :D I knew i should have copywritten my username

I love Lurganese  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on February 08, 2008, 10:36:14 PM
The ulster league is far and away better than challenge matches. good  edge to the games points at stake.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on February 09, 2008, 12:51:49 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 07, 2008, 03:46:25 PM
Had a palpable mistake once online with a bookie. They paid me out on a footy accum when one of the teams had been beaten. I noticed it that night of the game and took the money out straight away so as it would be into my bank account and they couldn't access this without my permission. Two days later i got an email saying they had made the mistake but i could keep the money (it was brazillian football) I thought this was a decent enough deal and i have been there ever since.

Its the GA you need to attend betting on Brazilian football
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 09, 2008, 01:30:24 AM
No you don't call me oisin  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on February 10, 2008, 01:18:51 AM
 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on February 10, 2008, 08:05:47 AM
In you make the play off in the Ulster league the games get very competitive. It's good preparation for the real thing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 11, 2008, 09:05:02 AM
Clan na Geal 1-15 St Pauls (Belfast) 0-05. Thats the 2 easy games out of the way now for the hard games in the following weeks.

Donagh i think you're missing dirty Lurgan too much ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on February 11, 2008, 12:26:57 PM
Any games played in the Mid-Armagh Cup/Shield yesterday... any results???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 11, 2008, 12:30:53 PM
Granemore beat Ballymacnab 10-7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on February 11, 2008, 12:42:07 PM
tullysaran v grange was called off due to a death in the grange and i think ballyhegan middletown was called off also.... games to be played next weekend!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on February 11, 2008, 02:58:36 PM
I don't think the Ogs have entered  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on February 11, 2008, 03:53:02 PM
Were the Ogs not meant to play Collegeland or someone like that yesterday???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 12, 2008, 09:00:32 AM
Quote from: Candyman on February 11, 2008, 03:53:02 PM
Were the Ogs not meant to play Collegeland or someone like that yesterday???

I dunno, I was running up and down stinky hills at the time  :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on February 12, 2008, 11:02:45 AM
Any word of the League fixtures yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 12, 2008, 11:23:07 AM
Orchard county usually have them up soon as they are available.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on February 13, 2008, 11:24:07 AM
fellas, can anyone give me directions on how to get to St. peter's please? we have a challenge game against them on Saturday afternoon, and will need directions from both Armagh and Belfast. pm me if you can help. Thanks!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 13, 2008, 11:28:08 AM
Come off the motorway at Lurgan, head for the town centre & take a left before the church.

Peter's is about a mile down this road on the right, beofre a large bend leaving town.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on February 13, 2008, 11:39:36 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on February 13, 2008, 11:28:08 AM
Come off the motorway at Lurgan, head for the town centre & take a left before the church.

Peter's is about a mile down this road on the right, beofre a large bend leaving town.

Cheers Goats, thanks for that!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on February 13, 2008, 11:41:20 AM
You can't take a left before the Church and you don't really want to be going near the town on a Sat afternoon is you can help it.

From Belfast, come of the M1 at Lurgan take the first left. Head towards Lurgan for a few hundred yards and take the first left onto Annesborough Rd just past the lights. Follow that road about half a mile and take the right just before the road ends (Tannaghmore Rd North). Follow that road to the end and take a right onto Castor Bay Rd at the big (Mile) house. Go straight along that road, straight through the mini roundabout onto Lake St, straight on and straight through the next mini roundabout, over the railway crossing and right a the mini roundabout that the end of that road. The Peter's will be on your left as you are heading up the hill.

From Armagh, follow the signs by Portadown, through Craigavon Centre, straight through all the roundabouts (all signposted Lurgan). Straight through all the lights coming into Lurgan and head for the big spire in the town. As you are coming into the town keep straight (i.e. don't filter left or right around the church into the town). At the lights beside the Celtic club and RUC station go straight down North Street toward the big Chapel (St Peters). The Peters club is just beyond the crest of the hill on the right.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on February 13, 2008, 11:49:18 AM
RUC station ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on February 13, 2008, 11:57:48 AM
Sorry RUC barracks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on February 13, 2008, 12:04:09 PM
Thanks as well Donagh!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 13, 2008, 02:09:34 PM
I believe Micky Devlin is running St Peters this year. Micky is formly a Glenavey man and as i understood to be more of a soccer man but the last 2-3 years he has come to his senses. St Peters is exactly to Donagh's directions and don't listen to "Goats" as you will be in trouble with the law if you turn left before the church as its a "straight ahead only" sign :P.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on February 13, 2008, 05:51:38 PM
good man donagh keeping our tradition alive
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on February 14, 2008, 08:57:00 AM
What sort of standard are St Peter's this year?  I know they had a poor run in Div 2 last yr but surely they'd be far too strong for Down 4th Div club? Are you playing there seconds?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 14, 2008, 09:06:19 AM
If you come past the Ashburn, up to the church - you can't turn left at the lights????

I've broken the law a few times then  :-\

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on February 14, 2008, 09:11:37 AM
Quote from: SouthArmaghBandit on February 14, 2008, 08:57:00 AM
What sort of standard are St Peter's this year?  I know they had a poor run in Div 2 last yr but surely they'd be far too strong for Down 4th Div club? Are you playing there seconds?

not sure, the manager organised it, but saying as we are Division 3, i won't really be able to answer your question come Saturday evening!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: OakLeaf on February 14, 2008, 10:10:23 AM
I've added a new Live Scores feature to GAA Radio. If you're at any Armagh club games it'd be good if you could text score updates to 447624804328. This service is free for everyone to view at http://www.gaaradio.com/scores/liveScores.jsp . Thanks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 14, 2008, 03:51:41 PM
You can't turn left goat but you can go up and round the church and come back down past the celtic club and head down that road (the one that you have taken the left at) This will take you down North Street and the Peters is about 600 yards down the road on the right hand side. I also think this way would be easier to find for someone who hadn't been in lurgan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 14, 2008, 05:00:45 PM
Believe it or not the easiest way to St Peters coming from Belfast is off at (M1) Lurgan drive towards town centre go over the railway lines (Railway station) and take the next left (Brownlow terrace) follow this raod to the end and you are facing the St Peters clubhouse...Presto!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on February 14, 2008, 05:03:43 PM
Listen lads, my way is the bestest, alrite. ALRITE?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on February 14, 2008, 05:21:28 PM
up n louth last night.good setup.cross plyed armagh u21s.cross beat them wel.looked v sharp.francie b came on as sub as wel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 15, 2008, 09:04:50 AM
Sorry Donagh ;) :D. K Brady was telling me about Cross stuffing Armagh U21's on Wed night as well :-X He was also telling me about the flood lights are being installed at the minute in the Pathetic Grounds and that the county final will be held there 100%.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on February 15, 2008, 10:49:41 AM
Quotethat the county final will be held there 100%.

probably with a similar outcome to the above game between Cross and the U-21s.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on February 15, 2008, 02:12:29 PM
There was only 5 points between cross and u21s.. Not bad as cross had full team with the exception of 1 or 2.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on February 16, 2008, 12:34:59 AM
Quote from: illdecide on February 15, 2008, 09:04:50 AM
Sorry Donagh ;) :D. K Brady was telling me about Cross stuffing Armagh U21's on Wed night as well :-X He was also telling me about the flood lights are being installed at the minute in the Pathetic Grounds and that the county final will be held there 100%.

Did Brady tell you about... ahh howl ur whiste donagh...  Viva El Presidente -- Joe Dubh!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1stsub on February 16, 2008, 10:39:46 AM
lads any one know of any websites were i can get a few training drills from
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on February 16, 2008, 12:05:08 PM
what colours do St. Peter's play in lads? need to know what colour of kit to bring with us today?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: aidanmcg33 on February 16, 2008, 12:20:03 PM
think they are black and white. Not 100% sure though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on February 16, 2008, 12:32:20 PM
cheers aidan, managed to find their website as well and they do play in those colours, good man!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on February 17, 2008, 07:18:58 PM
Madden beat por mor today by a point in the mid armagh cup! play keady in the semi!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 17, 2008, 07:26:40 PM
anyone at Mullingar today? bad result, any reports welcome
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on February 17, 2008, 09:40:13 PM
from de Indo

ARMAGH legend Oisin McConville will sign off on a glittering career by retiring from inter-county football at the end of this season.

After being plagued with a back injury for the past two years, McConville, 32, underwent surgery on that problem area last week but is still expected to be ready for Crossmaglen's All-Ireland club semi-final with St Vincent's next weekend.

He seriously considered retiring at the end of last season but says his desire to land a second All-Ireland medal with Armagh forced him to come back for one more shot. There is speculation that fellow Crossmaglen man, Francie Bellew, will also call it a day after this campaign.

Speaking of his decision to step down at the end of the year, McConville said: "My back has been giving me trouble for some time now and realistically I have to consider my health at some point. In an ideal world you'd never quit and would carry on playing for as long as possible.

"But I know that if I keep going for much longer at the pace I am then I will end up with a serious problem. One more year will do no great harm -- and besides I think we have a great chance of success this year."

While all his focus is on the club at the moment, he says he wouldn't have returned to the Armagh team had he not being confident for the year ahead.

"I know no one really rates us -- and think we are gone as a team -- but Peter McDonnell is going about his business in a really calm and impressive manner.

"The team is motoring along nicely and I reckon we're capable of a shock or two along the way," he added.

McConville, the highest scorer in Ulster championship history, has just been awarded the AIB Ulster Player of the Year for the fourth time in his career. The two-time All Star is currently bidding to win his fifth All-Ireland club medal with Cross'
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 18, 2008, 01:02:55 AM
Kilrea 1-08 Clan Na Gael 1-10 Good day at the office. All in all a good result against a young side full of running.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Nimbus on February 18, 2008, 10:48:28 AM
Any positives come out of Mullingar yesterday?

Any good performances?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on February 18, 2008, 03:54:20 PM
Tullysaran beat the grange 2.08 til 0.03 on sunday in that mid armagh shield!

I went up to see st pats mccrory team play omagh on saturday, they won by 4 or 5 points and had a man sent off, good display although lady luck was definetly on their side.  The st pats keeper deserves a mention for a string of fine saves, on another day omagh cud have 4 or 5 goals, as well as the keeper, t turley, d comisky and c coulter all played very well!

any other results from the shield??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on February 18, 2008, 04:03:05 PM
Middletowns match with ballyhegan was called off again, cause of fog or frozen pitch I think
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Double Cross on February 18, 2008, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: Nimbus on February 18, 2008, 10:48:28 AM
Any positives come out of Mullingar yesterday?

The sooner the Cross lads are back playing the better, but they wont be back `til after the All Ireland Club Final on St Patricks Day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on February 18, 2008, 10:26:42 PM
Whats the story with Mid-Armagh Cup & Shield competitions? Doesnt seem to be too many matches being played. Surely Ogs & Harps too busy with Ulster League.

Thats a big result Hank over your neighbours, chatting to one of them today and they are already talking about struggling in Div.3 after that beating. Do you play yourself Hank or stand idly by/past it?

Anyone know when / where St Pats Armagh play their next round match in McRory cup? Think its Dungannon Academy now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on February 19, 2008, 09:01:55 AM
Yea i was talkn to a grange fella after the game and he was pessimistic about their chances in division 3 to say the least! we were short the mccrory lads, and a couple of other starters as well who were missing thru wee niggles and other reasons! No i wasnt playn, was one of about wat seemed like 50 subs we had on the day!  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on February 19, 2008, 09:39:37 AM
Quote from: border rabbit on February 18, 2008, 10:26:42 PM
Whats the story with Mid-Armagh Cup & Shield competitions? Doesnt seem to be too many matches being played. Surely Ogs & Harps too busy with Ulster League.

Thats a big result Hank over your neighbours, chatting to one of them today and they are already talking about struggling in Div.3 after that beating. Do you play yourself Hank or stand idly by/past it?

Anyone know when / where St Pats Armagh play their next round match in McRory cup? Think its Dungannon Academy now

Next McRory match is this weekend in the same venue against the academy.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on February 19, 2008, 10:05:14 AM
Poor u Hank, not the weather to be standing kicking the white lines. Heard you had massif squad togging out, bodes well for the coming years with some country teams struggling with numbers. Should have a handy B team too then, you'll maybe get a wee game with them  ;D. Surely the championship is within your sights this year, not before time.

Cheers Canyman, suppose check the Irish News for time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on February 20, 2008, 12:30:39 PM
Your telln me border rab, i woke up on monday with the cold too!!

Heard a grumbling that vernon may have suffered some sort of knee ligament damage and its set him back quite a bit, we may not see much football from him for a while! Any confirm or deny this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on February 20, 2008, 01:00:31 PM
that ill decide lad seems like an idiot - fool
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 20, 2008, 02:15:22 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on February 20, 2008, 01:00:31 PM
that ill decide lad seems like an idiot - fool

Keep taking the tablets son ;) :D I won't take the bait on that one...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on February 20, 2008, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 20, 2008, 02:15:22 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on February 20, 2008, 01:00:31 PM
that ill decide lad seems like an idiot - fool

Keep taking the tablets son ;) :D I won't take the bait on that one...

easy there lad or i will have to take the middle out of you
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 20, 2008, 02:57:12 PM
Gaapunter,

You are only a newbie, You have to be at the very least a full member before you can slag other users! Get It  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 20, 2008, 03:06:41 PM
I suspect a breed amongst our ranks. Gaapunter wind it in son or the decider shall eat ya for starters  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 20, 2008, 03:13:07 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on February 20, 2008, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 20, 2008, 02:15:22 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on February 20, 2008, 01:00:31 PM
that ill decide lad seems like an idiot - fool

Keep taking the tablets son ;) :D I won't take the bait on that one...

easy there lad or i will have to take the middle out of you

Remember GAAPUNTER personal attacks end in suspension from the moderator

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on February 20, 2008, 03:38:58 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 20, 2008, 03:06:41 PM
I suspect a breed amongst our ranks. Gaapunter wind it in son or the decider shall eat ya for starters  :D :D :D

correct el hadg doiuf son
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on February 20, 2008, 03:40:07 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on February 20, 2008, 02:57:12 PM
Gaapunter,

You are only a newbie, You have to be at the very least a full member before you can slag other users! Get It  >:(

you would know alot about it- you and ill decide two fine judges
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on February 20, 2008, 03:41:28 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 20, 2008, 03:13:07 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on February 20, 2008, 02:28:06 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 20, 2008, 02:15:22 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on February 20, 2008, 01:00:31 PM
that ill decide lad seems like an idiot - fool

Keep taking the tablets son ;) :D I won't take the bait on that one...

easy there lad or i will have to take the middle out of you

Remember GAAPUNTER personal attacks end in suspension from the moderator

Nothing personal was just reading through the numerous stupid posts you have made- you are giving Ba a bad name
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on February 21, 2008, 11:09:18 AM
Personal attacks on us 'decides' also end in pain GAAPUNTER, not just suspension! :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 21, 2008, 11:30:48 AM
You new boys are some craic although i like that "IVEDECIDED" guy as he's backing me up...


Have all you guys entered into Killeavey's seven's tournament for Easter Saturday?? If not you should as it will be a good workout and get you ready for the league after Easter
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 21, 2008, 12:05:49 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on February 20, 2008, 03:40:07 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on February 20, 2008, 02:57:12 PM
Gaapunter,

You are only a newbie, You have to be at the very least a full member before you can slag other users! Get It  >:(

you would know alot about it- you and ill decide two fine judges

Think you are getting too big for your boots gaapunter,

If you cant come on and write something constructive, then you know where the Log Off Button is, Get it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on February 21, 2008, 01:46:45 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on February 21, 2008, 12:05:49 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on February 20, 2008, 03:40:07 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on February 20, 2008, 02:57:12 PM
Gaapunter,

You are only a newbie, You have to be at the very least a full member before you can slag other users! Get It  >:(

you would know alot about it- you and ill decide two fine judges

Think you are getting too big for your boots gaapunter,

If you cant come on and write something constructive, then you know where the Log Off Button is, Get it
onion bag at least the bag part is correct
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 21, 2008, 02:58:01 PM
I see the moderators rubbing their hands for this one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 21, 2008, 03:02:29 PM
gaapunter,

Why dont you just F**k off and go back to wherever it is you came from, there was peace and harmony on the board until you came along, and i think everyone will agree. Considering opening a thread :-

" Should  we punt the gaapunter out"? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on February 21, 2008, 07:59:12 PM
Hit the highroad GAAPUNTER! //
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tyrones own on February 24, 2008, 04:54:17 PM
Quote from: Double Cross on February 18, 2008, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: Nimbus on February 18, 2008, 10:48:28 AM
Any positives come out of Mullingar yesterday?

The sooner the Cross lads are back playing the better, but they wont be back `til after the All Ireland Club Final on St Patricks Day.


Oops.......... :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on February 25, 2008, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on February 24, 2008, 04:54:17 PM
Quote from: Double Cross on February 18, 2008, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: Nimbus on February 18, 2008, 10:48:28 AM
Any positives come out of Mullingar yesterday?

The sooner the Cross lads are back playing the better, but they wont be back `til after the All Ireland Club Final on St Patricks Day.

Your rite- great to see that cross scum beat- i do believe that is the end of this current team- brilliant up the clans for ths armagh championship in 08
Oops.......... :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 25, 2008, 09:52:55 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on February 25, 2008, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on February 24, 2008, 04:54:17 PM
Quote from: Double Cross on February 18, 2008, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: Nimbus on February 18, 2008, 10:48:28 AM
Any positives come out of Mullingar yesterday?

The sooner the Cross lads are back playing the better, but they wont be back `til after the All Ireland Club Final on St Patricks Day.

Your rite- great to see that cross scum beat- i do believe that is the end of this current team- brilliant up the clans for ths armagh championship in 08
Oops.......... :P

another WUM on the board, that's all we need.  I dunno how you could say that this is the last of Cross and be expected to taken seriously on this thread.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 25, 2008, 10:31:56 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on February 25, 2008, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on February 24, 2008, 04:54:17 PM
Quote from: Double Cross on February 18, 2008, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: Nimbus on February 18, 2008, 10:48:28 AM
Any positives come out of Mullingar yesterday?

The sooner the Cross lads are back playing the better, but they wont be back `til after the All Ireland Club Final on St Patricks Day.

Your rite- great to see that cross scum beat- i do believe that is the end of this current team- brilliant up the clans for ths armagh championship in 08
Oops.......... :P



Are you serious gaapunter, the end of cross? As el_cuervo_fc rightly states, you cannot be expected to be taken seriously, Clans for c'ship 08 is also a bit of a sweeping stement
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on February 25, 2008, 10:46:37 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on February 25, 2008, 09:52:55 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on February 25, 2008, 08:54:51 AM
Quote from: Tyrones own on February 24, 2008, 04:54:17 PM
Quote from: Double Cross on February 18, 2008, 06:27:20 PM
Quote from: Nimbus on February 18, 2008, 10:48:28 AM
Any positives come out of Mullingar yesterday?

The sooner the Cross lads are back playing the better, but they wont be back `til after the All Ireland Club Final on St Patricks Day.

Your rite- great to see that cross scum beat- i do believe that is the end of this current team- brilliant up the clans for ths armagh championship in 08
Oops.......... :P

another WUM on the board, that's all we need.  I dunno how you could say that this is the last of Cross and be expected to taken seriously on this thread.

we will see my frien to me cross seemed a very very tired team- too many boys over the hill- watch and see
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 25, 2008, 03:11:53 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on February 25, 2008, 10:31:56 AM

Are you serious gaapunter, the end of cross? As el_cuervo_fc rightly states, you cannot be expected to be taken seriously, Clans for c'ship 08 is also a bit of a sweeping stement

Whilst i don't agree that it is the end of the Cross team by any means!!! I don't see how him writing the Clans for the 2008 championship can be discribed as a sweeping statement. After all they are in it aren't they?? So they have as much chance of winning it as anyone. When you add that they are the in the quarter final already then i think "sweeping statement" speech would soley be based on a dislike for the clans and an unwillingness to come out of a crossmaglen mindset. The Cross have to loose sometime and i wanted them to win yesterday as they were representing my county but they didn't. They are still the top team team in Armagh club football and all teams will have their work cut out beating them in the Domestic championship but this could be the year someone does it. The defeat for Cross yesterday may just unsettle them and it is up to the other teams in Armagh to take advantage of that if they are able. But if you are not in you can't win and the blues will be in there as will the other willing participants.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 25, 2008, 03:37:49 PM
Ok winsamsoon, "Sweeping statement" may have been the wrong choice of words, Of course he clans will be in it to win it, But what i was saying is that i think there are a few teams that are still a fair bit behind cross but also a a couple of steps ahead of the Clans, im not in a cross mindset at all, in fact i would like to see someone different win it. it would be good for Armagh Football overall, so Good luck to the Clans for 08  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 25, 2008, 03:46:31 PM
Well now onion bag that is much clearer and straight to the point :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on February 25, 2008, 03:51:41 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on February 25, 2008, 03:37:49 PM
Ok winsamsoon, "Sweeping statement" may have been the wrong choice of words, Of course he clans will be in it to win it, But what i was saying is that i think there are a few teams that are still a fair bit behind cross but also a a couple of steps ahead of the Clans, im not in a cross mindset at all, in fact i would like to see someone different win it. it would be good for Armagh Football overall, so Good luck to the Clans for 08  ;)

Onion bag who would be the few teams that are a few steps ahead of the clans- after all the clans won division one in 2006- finished runners up in 2007 lost to cross in the 2006 county final- granted they suffered a shock defeat to portadown in the 2007 championship - but i and many other gaels would say they are a clear second to cross and uin truth the only team that possiby beat them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on February 25, 2008, 04:05:50 PM
Hard to see why Clann's would be ahead of Dromintee or Ogs in any pecking order, when's the last time Clan's beat Dromintee or Pearse Og (or even Harps for that matter) in the championship when it counted?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on February 25, 2008, 04:08:30 PM
Can someone please post the u-21 squad which has been announced (perhaps I've missed it?)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on February 25, 2008, 04:10:27 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 25, 2008, 04:05:50 PM
Hard to see why Clann's would be ahead of Dromintee or Ogs in any pecking order, when's the last time Clan's beat Dromintee or Pearse Og (or even Harps for that matter) in the championship when it counted?


Dromintee are no great shakes- if they had any sort of bottle they would have and should have won 3-4 armagh championships in the last few years- but they didnt are are now just an average team- as for pearse og a decent team - but lay down to cross in the county final- even playing an unfit ronan clarke.

i think you know the clans are a better side
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on February 25, 2008, 04:17:55 PM
Did the clans not lie down to cross in the 07 final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on February 25, 2008, 04:21:43 PM
Either a WUM or a young whippersnapper who doesn't know a big pile.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on February 25, 2008, 04:34:35 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 25, 2008, 04:21:43 PM
Either a WUM or a young whippersnapper who doesn't know a big pile.



wat is a WUM
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on February 25, 2008, 04:52:27 PM
Quote from: Skiddybadoo on February 25, 2008, 04:08:30 PM
Can someone please post the u-21 squad which has been announced (perhaps I've missed it?)

PROVISIONAL ARMAGH UNDER-21 PANEL FOR 2008

The provisional Armagh Under-21 panel for 2008 has just been announced and it is as follows:-

Crossmaglen (10): P Kernan, P McKeown, S Finnegan, R Kelly, C Short, D McKenna, J Hanratty, K Carragher, J Clarke, F Hanratty

Carrickcruppen (5): M Ferris, J Magill, S Harold, J Hughes, M Patton

Sarsfields (2): P McGaughey, P Magee

Ballyhegan (1): J McKeever

Culloville (1): C Watters

Granemore (1): K Toner

Killeavey (1): D O'Hanlon

Lissummon (1): P Rodgers

Madden (1): J Feeney

Maghery (1): S Forker

St Michael's (1): K O'Rourke

Tir na nÓg (1): T Marley

Tullysaran (1): A Conlon

Wolfe Tones (1): N Geoghegan

Whitecross (1): A McCann
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on February 25, 2008, 05:21:12 PM
Thanks, Gaapunter.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 25, 2008, 08:01:53 PM
If memory serves me correct gander the Clans were not in the 2007 final to lie down so you really should look at the facts before  you try to make little snide remarks. It is called backfiring. If you are talking about 2006 then i would say they didn't lie down but then again i don't think Pearse Ogs did either. Why would a team lie down in a county final or in any game for that. Don't be silly.

Quote from: bennydorano on February 25, 2008, 04:05:50 PM
Hard to see why Clann's would be ahead of Dromintee or Ogs in any pecking order, when's the last time Clan's beat Dromintee or Pearse Og (or even Harps for that matter) in the championship when it counted?

Ok Benny any time they have meet Dromintee in recent years Dromintee have won, Played the ogs twice since 99 and the ogs won both and before that they meet the harps who won the game at the Tones back when the gremlins were playing. But what does this mean for this years championship??????????. Do you make the harps favourite over the clans because they beat them in the championship in 1999.ffs take a bow. the championship is open and bar the Cross the rest of the teams are pretty equal. On any given day any team could beat one another.We were beaten finalists in 2006 and were dumped out in the first round of the following year. Now we didn't become a bad side over night but we had a bad couple of days and tir na nog played two accepyional matches. Ypu are basing your arguments on history of past championships. Sure we won 4 or 5 leagues titles from 99. Harps and Ogs have won nothing and dromintee have won maybe 1 league title. Sure they have been beaten in finals but this counts for nothing. On any particular day in any sport one team could beat another.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on February 25, 2008, 08:23:45 PM
You just made my point for me winsamsoon in regards to 'Gaapunter' wibbling on about how the Clan's are a clear second to Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 25, 2008, 09:41:51 PM
I know that !! but at the same time i wanted to point out that no other team are clear second to cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 26, 2008, 08:27:59 AM
AFS, it pops it's head up once in a while and is quite amusing to see people squabble over the scraps from the master's table :P

I think this will be a big year for those teams in that second tier. How the boys react to Sunday will be key.  Dromintee now have a real chance to go that step further and beat them as they have had a few months head start on preparing for the single event of the 1st Round of the championship, and Cross are at their vulnerable now.  How Drmintee turn this to their advantage is vital in securing a win for them.  This is the year for them to do it and if they don't then I don't know what they can do.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 26, 2008, 08:39:01 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on February 25, 2008, 08:54:51 AM
Your rite- great to see that cross scum beat- i do believe that is the end of this current team- brilliant up the clans for ths armagh championship in 08

It's funny when you can post this tripe... then a few post later you list the U21 County panel a few posts later...

... in which Cross are the team most represented! 10 panelists is unbelievable!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on February 26, 2008, 11:19:51 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 26, 2008, 08:27:59 AM
AFS, it pops it's head up once in a while and is quite amusing to see people squabble over the scraps from the master's table :P

I think this will be a big year for those teams in that second tier. How the boys react to Sunday will be key.  Dromintee now have a real chance to go that step further and beat them as they have had a few months head start on preparing for the single event of the 1st Round of the championship, and Cross are at their vulnerable now.  How Drmintee turn this to their advantage is vital in securing a win for them.  This is the year for them to do it and if they don't then I don't know what they can do.

If it was going to happen for Dromintee it would have happened a couple of years ago
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on February 26, 2008, 11:25:04 AM

What date do the leagues start lads?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on February 26, 2008, 11:42:06 AM
Seven of the Cross men have been called onto the County panel; Aaron, Stephen and Tony Kernan, Hearty, F Bellew, O McConville and Brendan McKeown.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on February 26, 2008, 12:04:37 PM
sandy hill what about j mc entee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on February 26, 2008, 01:01:34 PM
Quote from: naka on February 26, 2008, 12:04:37 PM
sandy hill what about j mc entee

I haven't heard anything about him but if you read the interview with him from last Sunday's Times you'd get the distinct impression that he's finished with the County; I hope I'm wrong!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 26, 2008, 01:38:43 PM
So have yous decided who's second best in the county yet?  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 26, 2008, 01:46:31 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 26, 2008, 01:38:43 PM
So have yous decided who's second best in the county yet?  :-\

Mullaghbrack is the 2nd best
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on February 26, 2008, 02:04:57 PM
Take your face for a crisp sandwich onion bag - Mullaghbrack arent even second best in Mullaghbrack!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 26, 2008, 02:06:13 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 26, 2008, 08:27:59 AM
AFS, it pops it's head up once in a while and is quite amusing to see people squabble over the scraps from the master's table :P

I think this will be a big year for those teams in that second tier. How the boys react to Sunday will be key.  Dromintee now have a real chance to go that step further and beat them as they have had a few months head start on preparing for the single event of the 1st Round of the championship, and Cross are at their vulnerable now.  How Drmintee turn this to their advantage is vital in securing a win for them.  This is the year for them to do it and if they don't then I don't know what they can do.


You see lads i am not arguing about who is second place in Armagh unlike some others i am merely stating that Cross are top as you say broken (anyone disputing this is in lala land).It is between another 5 or 6 teams to step up and challenge. Any of these 5 or 6 teams could beat each other on any given day so you are correct in saying the argument is totally bizzarre. It is based on past statistics and we all know what happened in the past should never be forgotten but it has no bearing whatsover on future events. Also i have already stated in my other post that it is a great time to get at the cross. No one will know what way the defeat on sunday will affect them and as you have rightly stated other teams will have a head start as i would imagine the cross taking a few weeks of.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 26, 2008, 02:13:08 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on February 26, 2008, 02:04:57 PM
Take your face for a crisp sandwich onion bag - Mullaghbrack arent even second best in Mullaghbrack!!!! ;D

No sorry i meant Phelim Bradys are the second best!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on February 26, 2008, 02:22:51 PM
No sorry i meant Phelim Bradys are the second best!
[/quote]

Correct son :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 26, 2008, 03:44:18 PM
Massive pressure on Cross resources this year.  What sort of team do the U-21's have?  If they are any good you could be looking at a situation whereby Cross have 17 players away from club training at least once a week for the next few months. 

Even with a large panel there can only be about 12-13 players always going to be there and that is no way to run things.  If I remember rightly this U-21 team won the Ulster Championship, even though it was somewhat fortunate.  When is the 1st round of the championship in Armagh due to be played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on February 26, 2008, 04:43:09 PM
BC1, first round of the championship isn't on until August so they'll have plenty of time to rest. Naka, I heard that John Mac coming onto the panel is definitely not happening.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 26, 2008, 05:57:56 PM
Sorto f glad the Dromintee boys didn't bother going to trials now, 17 Crposs boys away is a massive amount.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 27, 2008, 07:58:16 AM
QuotePosted on: February 26, 2008, 04:43:09 PMPosted by: mackers 
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BC1, first round of the championship isn't on until August so they'll have plenty of time to rest. Naka, I heard that John Mac coming onto the panel is definitely not happening

Thanks mackers.  I think the u-21's has to be run off before the seniors start, would that be right?  The Armagh County Board must have great faith in the seniors that they think they will still be there in August!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 27, 2008, 08:50:24 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 27, 2008, 07:58:16 AM
QuotePosted on: February 26, 2008, 04:43:09 PMPosted by: mackers 
Insert Quote
BC1, first round of the championship isn't on until August so they'll have plenty of time to rest. Naka, I heard that John Mac coming onto the panel is definitely not happening

Thanks mackers.  I think the u-21's has to be run off before the seniors start, would that be right?  The Armagh County Board must have great faith in the seniors that they think they will still be there in August!

I think one of the main reasons that the county board have put the championship on so late this year is so that clubs can concentrate on their league campaigns.  with all clubs still in preparation for championship there wont be the same debacle of the past few seasons where clubs simply forget about the league when they know they're safe
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 27, 2008, 09:16:25 AM
Nail on the head cuervo. Brady said the league had been a joke the last few years so the championship would be late to get a better league and nothing to do with thinking Armagh will be there knocking on the door in August
Title: Re: Athletic Grounds, Armagh
Post by: Armagh Exile on February 27, 2008, 06:33:37 PM
Athletics Ground reopening delayed
27 February 2008


The long-awaited reopening of the Athletic Grounds in Armagh has been further delayed due to a change of building contractor.

Orchard County officials have been forced to abandon plans to host glamour National League ties against Dublin and Cork at the city venue because the redevelopment work won't be completed on time. It means Armagh's remaining Division 2 games will now take place at Crossmaglen.

Armagh haven't played a league tie at their county headquarters since 2000, while their last championship clash at the venue was the 1995 defeat to Derry. County chairman Kevin Brady said it will be 2009 before the revamped 21,000-capacity stadium will be able to host league matches again.


www.hoganstand.com

Title: Re: Athletic Grounds, Armagh
Post by: full back on February 27, 2008, 07:47:32 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on February 27, 2008, 06:33:37 PM
Athletics Ground reopening delayed
27 February 2008


The long-awaited reopening of the Athletic Grounds in Armagh has been further delayed due to a change of building contractor.

Orchard County officials have been forced to abandon plans to host glamour National League ties against Dublin and Cork at the city venue because the redevelopment work won't be completed on time. It means Armagh's remaining Division 2 games will now take place at Crossmaglen.

Armagh haven't played a league tie at their county headquarters since 2000, while their last championship clash at the venue was the 1995 defeat to Derry. County chairman Kevin Brady said it will be 2009 before the revamped 21,000-capacity stadium will be able to host league matches again.


www.hoganstand.com




No shock there then ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 27, 2008, 07:48:18 PM
QuoteOrchard County officials have been forced to abandon plans to host glamour National League ties against Dublin and Cork at the city venue because the redevelopment work won't be completed on time.

Was this ever even a remote possibility?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: say nothin on February 27, 2008, 11:07:31 PM
the contractors changed back in December. Spoke to one of the guys working on the site and he told me recently that they would be finished Phase1 by the End of June, in time to hold Club championship games/finals.

There was never going to be a NFL game played on the pitch this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 28, 2008, 09:43:49 AM
Tell you what lads was anyone else happy that they have actually set a date for 2009  :D I thought at the rate they are going it would be another ten years. But then again i would say this date will be extended.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on February 28, 2008, 10:16:33 AM
To be fair lads I pass it two or three times a day and the amount of work that has been done over the last couple of months has been amazing. I know it has taken some time to get this far but hopefully we'll be watching a few club championship matches under lights in August and September!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 28, 2008, 02:05:21 PM
Quote from: mackers on February 28, 2008, 10:16:33 AM
To be fair lads I pass it two or three times a day and the amount of work that has been done over the last couple of months has been amazing. I know it has taken some time to get this far but hopefully we'll be watching a few club championship matches under lights in August and September!!!

K Brady said that he had no doubt (100%) that the final of the senior club championship will be in the Athletic Grounds. We shall see!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 28, 2008, 02:05:37 PM
here here,  and get the final out of cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 28, 2008, 03:07:44 PM
Killeavy seven's fixtures.


Group A - Pitch 1 
Killeavey v Keady
Mullaghbawn v Sarsfields
Killeavey v Mullaghbawn
Keady v Sarsfields
Killeavey v Sarsfields
Keady v Mullaghbawn

Group B - Pitch 2 
Maghery v Grange
St PAts  v Ballymacnab
Maghery v St pats 
Grange  v Ballymacnab
Maghery v Ballymacnab
Grange  v St Pats 

Group C - Pitch 3 
Crossmaglen v St Peters 
Carrickruppen v Shane ONeills 
Crossmaglen v Carrickruppen
St Peters  v Shane ONeills 
Crossmaglen v Shane ONeills 
St Peters  v Carrickruppin
Group D - Pitch 4 
Dromintee v Silverbridge
Cullaville v Granemore
Dromintee v Cullaville
Silverbridge v Granemore
Dromintee v Granemore
Silverbridge v Cullaville
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 28, 2008, 03:25:20 PM
I heard we were entering that the year but obviously not according to corns post.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 28, 2008, 03:32:29 PM
Suprised myself Win, Harps and Ogs also missing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 28, 2008, 03:34:43 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 28, 2008, 03:25:20 PM
I heard we were entering that the year but obviously not according to corns post.

As far as i know we put our names in the hat??? Maybe there were not enough places left...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 28, 2008, 03:39:32 PM
I though I read somwhere that the invite was going to all first divison clubs and then second etc etc in which case Clans would be there. I may have imagined this though but I do believe I read it in the Killeavy bullentin.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 28, 2008, 03:42:29 PM
Preparations are well underway now for the first Armagh sevens tournament, to be held at the club on Easter Saturday, 22nd March. We hope to have 16-20 teams taking part, on our two main fields and in Meigh. The initial invite has gone to the top two divisions in Armagh, and depending on uptake, we may widen our base to other clubs in the region. The club will be open on the day, and we're hoping for a great days craic and a good and meaningful competition to add to the Armagh football calendar. The tournament has been endorsed by the county board, and official referees will be present!! So make sure you're there to help or just enjoy your day out. 


Off Killeavy site.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on February 28, 2008, 07:11:40 PM
Does anyone know when the first batch of league fixtures are out? Or when the league starts even? Surely this information should be known to clubs by now!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 28, 2008, 08:19:25 PM
I thought the same corn but once again events in Armagh are as clear as mud ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 28, 2008, 10:21:43 PM
Quote from: corn02 on February 28, 2008, 03:42:29 PM
Preparations are well underway now for the first Armagh sevens tournament, to be held at the club on Easter Saturday, 22nd March. We hope to have 16-20 teams taking part, on our two main fields and in Meigh. The initial invite has gone to the top two divisions in Armagh, and depending on uptake, we may widen our base to other clubs in the region. The club will be open on the day, and we're hoping for a great days craic and a good and meaningful competition to add to the Armagh football calendar. The tournament has been endorsed by the county board, and official referees will be present!! So make sure you're there to help or just enjoy your day out. 


Off Killeavy site.

There's a rally (a real one - not the Cross and Cullyhanna ones) through the Silverbridge regions of Coronagh and Glassdrummond Easter saturday too - I don't know what to go to!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on February 29, 2008, 08:50:00 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 28, 2008, 03:25:20 PM
I heard we were entering that the year but obviously not according to corns post.

|winsamsoon the clans are in this sevens tournment - there was an admin error- revised groups will be posted today- with one one of the dirt temas i.e st peters or the sarsfields making way for the blue army
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on February 29, 2008, 09:50:17 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on February 29, 2008, 08:50:00 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 28, 2008, 03:25:20 PM
I heard we were entering that the year but obviously not according to corns post.

|winsamsoon the clans are in this sevens tournment - there was an admin error- revised groups will be posted today- with one one of the dirt temas i.e st peters or the sarsfields making way for the blue army

lol  :D
i vote to kick the flower bags out!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 29, 2008, 11:24:19 AM
Team for Sunday

McKinney
Enda Donaghy Moriarty
Kernan O;'Rourke McKeever
   Mackin McGrane
Courtney O'Rourke S Kernan
McDonnell Clarke T Kernan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on February 29, 2008, 11:29:07 AM
Quote from: corn02 on February 29, 2008, 11:24:19 AM
Team for Sunday

McKinney
Enda Donaghy Moriarty
Kernan O;'Rourke McKeever
   Mackin McGrane
Courtney O'Rourke S Kernan
McDonnell Clarke T Kernan


Come on pints...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 29, 2008, 11:52:47 AM
In fairness to the selectors everyone on the panel deserves their chance.  I know Mackin had chances before but the new manager deserves the right to try something new. 

When fit I think Vernon in MF with McGrane would give it good balance, keep Courtney there as a wing forward/extra fielder in the middle.  O Rourke and SK can interchange along the line.  Mallon into FB line with probably Moriarty stepping down and toss up between the keepers as I would feel happy with either of them and that is fairly close to C'ship side.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 29, 2008, 11:58:32 AM
James Lavery must be well off the pace in training.

I really thought he would be McGrane's midfield partner this year!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 29, 2008, 12:25:58 PM
Uladh stated in the other thead on the main page that the back line is suspect and I have to agree. For many years the full back line has been one of Armagh's best I know Mallon has yet to return but there seems to be a short supply of people who can come into the full-back line. Perosnaly for Sunday I would of liked to have seen McKeever drop back in place of Moriarty and Shannon given a chance on the wing.

I staed before on this thread that McKeever could be perfect for corner back especially if McNulty does not lose them Christmas pounds. I know everyone will ridicule this due to his utstanding performances in the half-back line but I think half back is a line we are very strong in and with Kernan, Duffy, O'Rourke, Shannon and Vernon all good people for that line, I feel we can sacrafice McKeever.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on February 29, 2008, 12:27:58 PM
BK1 - O'ROURKE AND SK CAN INTERCHANGE ALONG THE BACK END OF MY * :'( :-*K! - THEY ARE BOTH CRAP!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 29, 2008, 12:34:03 PM
IVEDECIDED, O'Rourke has been Armagh's best forward in the two games to date while S Kernan is starting to prove both me and many others on this form wrong with some good performances. So I can not undersdtand your comments, would you care to elaborate?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on February 29, 2008, 12:49:13 PM
Quote from: corn02 on February 29, 2008, 12:34:03 PM
IVEDECIDED, O'Rourke has been Armagh's best forward in the two games to date while S Kernan is starting to prove both me and many others on this form wrong with some good performances. So I can not undersdtand your comments, would you care to elaborate?
Corn, agree with you about M O'Rourke and while SK is skillful, I'm not sure he can win hard breaking ball which he would need to do.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 29, 2008, 12:52:52 PM
But he can take a score. I have been one of his biggest critics but he is certainly not as bad as I first thought. I still believe he is well off championship pace and I would easily have Mallon ahead of him, I do believe he deserves a chance since he has done so well against Cavan. Remember Kernan is coming off  a years solid training and is probably as fit as anyone on the team at present. Probably a bit sore ,in more ways than one, after Sunday but with his fitness on high he will probably be our topscorer form play on Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Nimbus on February 29, 2008, 12:58:08 PM
Quote from: corn02 on February 29, 2008, 12:52:52 PM
But he can take a score. I have been one of his biggest critics but he is certainly not as bad as I first thought. I still believe he is well off championship pace and I would easily have Mallon ahead of him, I do believe he deserves a chance since he has done so well against Cavan. Remember Kernan is coming off  a years solid training and is probably as fit as anyone on the team at present. Probably a bit sore ,in more ways than one, after Sunday but with his fitness on high he will probably be our topscorer form play on Sunday.

Nothing like setting someone up for a big fall.

Hopefully not though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 29, 2008, 01:05:02 PM
Not really Nimbus, as I stated I have critisied him plenty on here. I think he is a pioneer? I could be wrong but if he is he should have no problem hitting at least two points from play on Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on February 29, 2008, 01:20:38 PM
I agree with the three Kernan's playing on Sunday as I feel Tony and Stephen are their on Merit, but just think of the criticism that big Joe would have come under if he had played them....agree wit Corn, MOR has easily been our best forward in league to date...no reason to drop him at al!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on February 29, 2008, 02:08:33 PM
Listen lads MOR is a ball winner and a goer, granted - but is this enough for top level county championship football? He cant take a score, he cant make a killer pass, he cant catch a ball and he cant run with a ball - apart from these slight mishaps I stand corrected he is a fine county footballer! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on February 29, 2008, 02:11:40 PM
And anyway we are forgetting the most important fault of SK and MOR - BY GOD THEY ARE UGLY!!!! ;D :D :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on February 29, 2008, 03:11:04 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on February 29, 2008, 11:58:32 AM
James Lavery must be well off the pace in training.

I really thought he would be McGrane's midfield partner this year!

Is he not injured or just returning from one?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on February 29, 2008, 03:30:41 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 29, 2008, 03:11:04 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on February 29, 2008, 11:58:32 AM
James Lavery must be well off the pace in training.

I really thought he would be McGrane's midfield partner this year!

Is he not injured or just returning from one?

NA HE IS JUST A POOR PLAYER- AN ORDINARY CLUB FOOTBALLER AT BEST
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on February 29, 2008, 04:21:15 PM

The quality of our little thread is all the better for the addition of ivedecided and this punter
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 29, 2008, 04:22:54 PM
Quote from: Uladh on February 29, 2008, 11:29:07 AM
Quote from: corn02 on February 29, 2008, 11:24:19 AM
Team for Sunday

McKinney
Enda Donaghy Moriarty
Kernan O;'Rourke McKeever
   Mackin McGrane
Courtney O'Rourke S Kernan
McDonnell Clarke T Kernan


Come on pints...

What uladh?

I think McGrane is use to playing in Midfeild on his own at this stage. 

I can't see McKinney doing too well with no full back line in front of him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on February 29, 2008, 04:49:21 PM
Take your face for a shite uladh - can you not have a bit of fun on the thread as well as good debates or does it have to be serious with you all the time!! ??? ??? >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on February 29, 2008, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on February 29, 2008, 02:11:40 PM
And anyway we are forgetting the most important fault of SK and MOR - BY GOD THEY ARE UGLY!!!! ;D :D :)

???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on February 29, 2008, 08:10:06 PM
I think it means that Uladh has a sour head on him all the time, as far as the newbie is concerned.

That is one crude spake.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 29, 2008, 09:19:31 PM
AFS it is lurgan slang for take your face for a crisp sandwich. :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 29, 2008, 09:59:40 PM
Good to see Mal Mackin getting a run in his best position. Be interesting to see how he does. 4 or 5 contenders for the spot alongside McGrane. Good to see Courtney getting a run. Has Brian Mallon had a recurrence of the injury? Can't understand why he isn't starting.

I'd agree that Martin O'Rourke has done well so far but, apart from getting sent off last week, we basically know what he can do and what his game is about - the likes of Courtney deserve a go.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Edgeofthesquare on March 01, 2008, 09:46:15 PM
Any body know what date the Armagh leagues start on?? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: say nothin on March 02, 2008, 01:03:47 PM
Apparently Sun 6th April.

no programme of fixtures yet though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on March 02, 2008, 08:26:39 PM
I heard the Harps beat Downpatrick well today in the Ulster League today.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on March 03, 2008, 09:34:59 AM
Middletown beat tullysaran by a point yesterday in terrible conditions in the mid ulster shield....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on March 03, 2008, 03:19:42 PM
From de Indo (no mention of fouling)

Gospel of McNulty

Armagh veteran spreads word on 'performance excellence' as the hunger for another Sam drives him to the limit on the field
By Vincent Hogan
Monday March 03 2008

T ed Williams, the late, great Boston Red Sox left-fielder, was a man rarely hamstrung in the business of self-regard.

Fishing was his second passion and he considered himself rather good at it. "Ain't no-one in heaven or earth ever knew more about fishing," he announced one day to a Boston sportswriter.

"Sure there is!" he was told.

"Oh yeah, who?"

"Well, God made the fish."

"Okay" agreed Williams reluctantly. "But you had to go pretty far back!"

When Enda McNulty was 15, his Dad handed him a book. It was 'The Inner Game of Tennis' by Timothy Galway. Neither father nor son played tennis or, for that matter, had much interest in it as a game. But, then, tennis wasn't the point of the gift.

Galway's subject was the psychology of competition, the search for inner strength, for a Ted Williams-like self-regard even.

Joe McNulty, a teacher, had a specific interest in that field. In the 60s, he had graduated with a degree in psychology from Queen's University and continued to read voraciously on the subject. Actually, he still does to this day.

And Joe reckoned that his son could do worse than have a browse at 'The Inner Game of Tennis.'

Enda McNulty is a cultural trespasser now. A sales rep of sorts, with a suitcase full of positivity. He recoils slightly from the title "sport psychologist", because -- he says --the mind is only part of it. Working "in performance excellence" is how he likes to describe his job.

McNulty's client-base is expanding and includes some of Ireland's brightest international sports stars.

And, therein, lies a beautiful irony. For so much of his message, so much of the competition wisdom he now dispenses, has been crash-tested on the plain, hard football fields of Ulster.

McNulty, you see, is 31 and into his 12th season soldiering with Armagh. Recently, he lined out against Monaghan in a floodlit challenge. January football, a sparse crowd, a heavy pitch, a wind blowing through with serrated edges. Early-season torture. He loved it.

Living in Dublin, he drives north for training every week and has yet to experience that ache of dread old soldiers get at the waning of the light. And, anyway, Enda has a good feeling about Armagh this year. He doesn't want to trumpet it, but he senses a strong glue holding things together now.

A graduate in sports science, McNulty is loathe to depict himself as any kind of guru. He studiously keeps his peace when in the Armagh dressing-room, insisting that he is there simply as a player. But they are accustomed to his intensity. Over the years, McNulty was always the one looking for that extra inch. Playing little games with himself. Stretching his mind.

"A lot of what I did didn't work," he chuckles. "I had to learn by trial and error. Some of the stuff I was doing was way over the top. The other players would have nearly laughed at me because I'd be doing too much. I'd be too focused nearly.

"Like, I always taped my wrists. But I'd have five letters written on the wrist-tape. The letters would symbolise five things I wanted to do. It took me maybe two years before I realised it was too much information. Paralysis by analysis, almost. The thing to do is let it flow. Go with instinct. Don't think, just act. Play.

"It took away from my game I would say for two or three years in my prime."

His gospel now has an enthusiastic market. When Irish athlete, David Gillick, retained his European Indoor 400 metres crown so impressively in Birmingham last year, the Dundrum athlete did not hesitate to acknowledge McNulty's contribution. "I am blown away by how much sports psychology has to do with winning," said Gillick.

McNulty works with a number of rugby internationals too, among them Leinster hooker, Bernard Jackman (arguably playing the best rugby of his career now) and regularly addresses corporate gatherings. His mission is to get people to reach the best of their inner selves. That search is never-ending but, believing, is half the challenge.

As he puts it: "If it can't happen, why did somebody climb Mount Everest when everyone was saying it couldn't be done? Why, when Roger Bannister beat the four minute mile, did others start doing it in the next two or three weeks?

"You have to believe. I mean Armagh had never won an All-Ireland until 2002, then went and beat the greatest county in the game in that year's final. They did it because they believed it was possible.

"I believe there's always a tipping point. It's a bit like the book, 'Tipping Point' by Malcolm Gladwell. There's a tipping point in every team's development. For us, it was probably 2000. Losing that replay in extra-time against Kerry.

"There was a realisation afterwards. 'Hang on here. Only we messed up today, we'd have won the match!'

"So defeat wasn't a disaster. We actually learnt from it."

Reading

He continues: "Look, I wouldn't say I know 10pc of what I should know about mental preparation. I'm no Dali Lama. I'm no guru. But I'm hungry to learn. Every single day, I'm reading about it, I'm meeting people, I'm trying to find out more."

The reading, he acknowledges, can only carry an athlete so far.

Maybe the specific appeal of McNulty above others in his trade is that he can apply personal experience to the theory. Apart from his own still vibrant playing career, McNulty was Director of Coaching at Ballyboden-St Enda's for four years before crossing the city to Na Fianna in 2005.

When he talks of the changing-room environment, he need never seek refuge in hypotheses.

"You can do all the degrees, all the courses you want," he agrees. "But don't speak of 'the buzz' unless you've been in the bullring. I think athletes or sports people in general respect people who've been there, who've played in front of 80,000 people, been beaten, been embarrassed even in front of 80,000 people, been almost clinically depressed after a defeat.

"The vast majority of my learning would have been in a practical, applied scenario rather than just reading. You've got to put it into practice and find out if it works."

Joe McNulty was coach to the Armagh team that reached the '82 All-Ireland football semi-final. Enda's brother, Justin, currently manages St Brigid's in Dublin. The lineage is unambiguous.

For years, Joe carried a picture of the Sam Maguire around in his wallet. It was a private, personal gesture, un-connected to any profound mottos or prophesies. Enda believes it might have been rooted to a simple hope that, when Armagh finally crossed the Rubicon, his family's footprints would be in the sand.

They were too, Enda and Justin both playing that famous day.

Under Joe Kernan, Armagh would be the antithesis of their old caricature. They became stony and nerveless and savvied. From a history of self-doubt, they began trading in plain certainty. Kernan, clearly, was the catalyst. But he had the men to carry the message too.

As McNulty recalls: "Look at Munster. Those guys believe they can pull on that Munster jersey and beat any other team in the world. It becomes a culture thing. Same thing with Crossmaglen in Armagh club football. There's no one reason for them being different to other teams. It just becomes an intrinsic confidence. It's part of their ethos, part of their being.

"In gaelic games, rugby, soccer, whatever, I believe you're going to need five to six absolute leaders for that to happen. Leaders, not in terms of being good at talking to the press or even in the changing-room, but in terms of knowing when the chips are down in a game and being able to step up to the plate.

"Luckily, in Armagh, we had those guys. The dogs of war, if you like. I would think back to Kieran Hughes, Cathal O'Rourke, Francie Bellew, Kieran McGeeney, Paul McGrane. Natural leaders. That leadership doesn't come from being in the gym a hundred times a year. You don't develop that from pushing weights. Someone used the word 'eco-system' to me recently and that's pretty much what it is. Just fellas feeding off one another, trying to be better than each other all the time."

He often thinks back to 2002. Back to a chance meeting with Eamonn Colemen, the late, great Derry manager, maybe two weeks before the final. "Any advice?" he asked the canny Ballymaguigan man.

"Aye," said Coleman "enjoy every single bit of it, the build-up, everything, because you might never get back there again."

He has seen ennui and sloppiness in certain Irish sports that professional confidences preclude him from divulging. "You'd be surprised how poor some of the standards are."

Preaches

So, endlessly he preaches the need for a holistic approach to preparation.

"Mental preparation on its own is a waste of time," says McNulty. "That's why I wouldn't call myself a sports psychologist. Because, if your physical conditioning is not good, if your lifestyle isn't good, if your technical coaching hasn't been good, if your tactical awareness isn't good, you're just not going to win.

"I'd say that to assume that everybody at the top level of Irish sport has looked after all those areas would be a massive assumption to make. In my view, we're not even getting close to world class level in that regard."

McNulty did spend a month in Japan last year at the World Championships with the Irish athletics team and was hugely impressed by what he saw. "Actually, I was blown away by their professionalism," he says.

Yet, almost certainly, most of those same athletes are doomed to a harsh post-mortem after this year's Olympic Games in Beijing. Once every four years we place them under the whitest of lights and wait for coronations. Then the disappointment untaps vitriol.

"What's the point of stabbing people in the back?" asks McNulty. "You can see it now. Athletics Ireland will be blamed. The Irish Sports Council. Everyone will blame everyone else and it won't do the athletes an ounce of good.

"People need to be positive and talk about what we can do, not what we didn't do...

"We're developing great kids in Irish sport, great people. But how do we bring it to a new level? How do we mirror what happened with the Celtic Tiger in Irish sport? Sports psychology shouldn't be out on a limb. It should just be part of it all. It should be run of the mill.

"But every aspect of Irish sport needs to be improved. Not just the facilities, not just the coaching, not just mental preparation, not just developing leaders, every single aspect has to be improved. Because we're so far behind, it's scary."

Confidence, he sees as a double-edged sword. The experience of the All Blacks at last year's Rugby World Cup provided one of the most compelling case-studies of communal meltdown ever witnessed in sport. McNulty, naturally, found the spectacle compelling.

"No-one can tell me that wasn't down to mental preparation," he says. "There had to be a major frailty there in terms of the mental toughness of that team. And, like I say, you don't get that in the gym.

"I was talking to one of their backroom staff when they were in Ireland two years ago about their mental preparation. He told me 'We have a guy the players can go to if they need him!' Well, I'd say they'll probably review that now. They'll probably go to new levels of mental preparation now. It'll have to become part of everything they do.

"You couldn't say there was anything wrong with them physically. I've read a good few interviews with Dan Carter since. He said that, in hindsight, the fact that they hadn't got beaten in the run-up to the World Cup was a major disaster for them. Because when you get beaten, you learn.

"And that's the key to it. You learn humility. Because ego is a dangerous thing in sport."

McNulty reads voraciously -- Bob Rotella, Phil Jackson, his old mentor, John Cramer. He listens to good people. He has a friend, Dessie Ryan, a 65-year-old ex-fireman from New York. Ryan has lived a life worth living.

"We think we're tough," says McNulty. "But it's not tough by comparison with being in a fifty-storey high brownstone building that's falling down around you and you're trying to get a wee girl out. Going for a 50/50 ball in front of 50,000 people pales into insignificance when compared to that."

Even old Ted Williams would have to bow to the blinding truth of that.

- Vincent Hogan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on March 04, 2008, 01:37:13 PM
groups For the Killeavy 7's

GROUP 1
Killeavy
Keady
Mullaghbawn
Sarsfields

GROUP 2
Maghery
Grange
St Pats
Ballymacnab

GROUP 3
Crossmaglen
St Peters
Carrickcruppen
Shane O'Neills

GROUP 4
Dromintee
Silverbridge
Cullaville
Granemore

         ROUND ROBBIN STAGE 1         



                PITCH 1      GROUP A       PITCH 2      GROUP B
11.00 AM    Killeavy   v   Keady              Maghery   v   Grange
11.20 AM   Mullaghbawn   v   Sarsfields     St Pats   v   Ballymacnab
12.00 AM    Killeavy   v   Mullaghbawn   Maghery   v   St Pats
12.20 PM   Keady   v   Sarsfields              Grange   v   Ballymacnab
1.00 PM           Killeavy   v   Sarsfields         Maghery   v   Ballymacnab
1.20 .PM   Keady   v   Mullaghbawn           Grange   v   St Pats
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                   PITCH 3      GROUP C            PITCH 4      GROUP D
11.00 AM   Crossmaglen   v   St Peters      Dromintee   v   Silverbridge
11.20 AM   Carrickcruppen   v   Shane O'Neills     Cullaville   v   Granemore
12.00 AM   Crossmaglen   v   Carrickcruppen     Dromintee   v   Cullaville
12.20 PM   St Peters   v   Shane O'Neills        Silverbridge   v   Granemore
1.00 PM   Crossmaglen   v   Shane O'Neills              Dromintee   v   Granemore
1.20. PM   St Peters   v   Carrickcruppen       Silverbridge   v   Cullaville
                  

                  
         QUARTER   FINALS      
   PITCH 1         PITCH 2      
1   winners a   v   runners up b   2                           winners b   v   runners up a
3   winners c   v   runners up d   4                           winners d   v   runners up c
                  
         semi   final      
1st   winner 1   v   winners 4   2nd                       winners 2   v   winners 3
                  
         final         
   winners 1st   v   winner 2nd         

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on March 04, 2008, 02:43:30 PM

The Clans lads were fairly adamant last week that they were invited?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 04, 2008, 02:44:02 PM
so the clans are not in this tournament then lads??????????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 04, 2008, 02:46:15 PM
I could have sworn uladh that we were in the Killeavy sevens but info can be very much unreliable in our neck of the woods.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on March 04, 2008, 03:16:20 PM
so are they not kicking the peters out for us? shame...  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 04, 2008, 03:48:59 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 04, 2008, 03:16:20 PM
so are they not kicking the peters out for us? shame...  ;)

We are entered in to it. We are in the same group as Cross and St Peters as a group of 5 untill such times a team pulls out then we will take their place and if not we'll fight it out with the other 4 teams in the group.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on March 04, 2008, 03:54:18 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 04, 2008, 02:46:15 PM
I could have sworn uladh that we were in the Killeavy sevens but info can be very much unreliable in our neck of the woods.

nothing unreliable about my word winsamsoon - we are in thats a fact fee paid- you would know more about a big loaf
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 04, 2008, 05:01:52 PM
easy you!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 05, 2008, 07:16:41 PM
A complete day without a post ????????? this must be a record for us lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 05, 2008, 07:21:37 PM
Not much to talk about when the real football doesn't start until April.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on March 05, 2008, 09:27:40 PM
Taken from Orchard County:
Normally I dont involve myself in gossip or ill- founded rumours but I heard from a very well placed source that Joe kernan was in the Armagh dressing room at half time on Sunday   ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Is it any wonder steven and tony walked straight into startin positions and paul kernan has been called onto county panel!!  ::) Doesn't say much for Peter McDonald is he not up to the job by himself? its a joke if you ask me!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 05, 2008, 09:31:32 PM
QuoteNormally I dont involve myself in gossip or ill- founded rumours but I heard from a very well placed source that Joe kernan was in the Armagh dressing room at half time on Sunday 

I wouldnt believe that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 06, 2008, 12:23:23 AM
If anyone believes that, etc etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on March 06, 2008, 06:08:09 AM
Quote from: AFS on March 06, 2008, 03:56:12 AM
Quote from: ardmhaca08 on March 05, 2008, 09:27:40 PM
Taken from Orchard County:
Normally I dont involve myself in gossip or ill- founded rumours but I heard from a very well placed source that Joe kernan was in the Armagh dressing room at half time on Sunday   ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Is it any wonder steven and tony walked straight into startin positions and paul kernan has been called onto county panel!!  ::) Doesn't say much for Peter McDonald is he not up to the job by himself? its a joke if you ask me!

Jaysus, is that right? And here's me thinking it had something to do with the fact that one fella was our county champion's best player recently and because the other lad seems to be the only person in the county capable of taking a free kick but....


LOL
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on March 06, 2008, 08:49:19 AM
Doubt he was in the changing rooms at half time, however i seen big joe standing making notes in his wee pad at the match!! Mayb he was keeping stats for his lads!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: judas1 on March 06, 2008, 08:56:36 AM
Absolute 100% BOLLOCKS.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 06, 2008, 09:12:36 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on March 06, 2008, 08:49:19 AM
Doubt he was in the changing rooms at half time, however i seen big joe standing making notes in his wee pad at the match!! Mayb he was keeping stats for his lads!!

I was sitting very close to him on Sunday, he was sitting with Ross.

Is Paul called up? I seen big David McKenna with the rest of the panel... could this mean 10 Cross panelists now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on March 06, 2008, 10:34:23 AM
Whatever avbout the other Kernans, Paul has a fair way to go before he's inter county standard. He took an awful roasting in Navan Sunday week ago and got the runaround against Cork last year in the u21 semi.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 06, 2008, 11:02:57 AM
Lads where is the Roscommon game played?

I heard a month or 2 ago that it may be Davitt Park but not sure. Has it been announced yet??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on March 06, 2008, 12:11:32 PM
League Fixtures are up...
www.armagh-gaa.com

Harps first 3 games are:

Home to Cullyhanna
Away to Killeavy
Home to XMG....

:o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 06, 2008, 12:39:01 PM
Tough start for the Bridge with Newtown and Cruppen in the first and third games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 06, 2008, 01:08:57 PM
Great match to start the league in Lurgan -  Clans against Cross. Ill def make my way over for that one!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 06, 2008, 02:14:25 PM
You never know i may be at that one myself.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on March 06, 2008, 06:23:03 PM
Quote from: mackers on March 06, 2008, 10:34:23 AM
Whatever avbout the other Kernans, Paul has a fair way to go before he's inter county standard. He took an awful roasting in Navan Sunday week ago and got the runaround against Cork last year in the u21 semi.

true but he'd be a better option than enda..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on March 06, 2008, 06:40:17 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 06, 2008, 02:14:25 PM
You never know i may be at that one myself.

no drink for you lads at the old wedding then. good luck in the first game though. should be a good one!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on March 06, 2008, 10:12:36 PM
Quote from: Candyman on March 06, 2008, 12:11:32 PM
League Fixtures are up...
www.armagh-gaa.com

Harps first 3 games are:

Home to Cullyhanna
Away to Killeavy
Home to XMG....

:o



could have been a whole lot worse. I would like to think Harps will defeat Cullyhanna on their own patch, Killeavey will be tough and well, against Cross. 4points from the first 3 games would be a great start.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on March 08, 2008, 09:06:05 PM
QuoteLads where is the Roscommon game played?

I heard a month or 2 ago that it may be Davitt Park but not sure. Has it been announced yet??

Armagh v Rosscommon will take place at Oliver Plunkett Park, Crossmaglen, on Sunday 16th March at 2.30pm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 09, 2008, 06:56:47 PM
Quotecould have been a whole lot worse. I would like to think Harps will defeat Cullyhanna on their own patch

I realise most teams will fancy themselves at home to St Pat's but I think we might survive one or 2 people this year although a lot will depend on how often we have our county men available to us. Fairly hopefuly we'll at least stay anyway. Its only 6 years since we won the League ya know!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on March 09, 2008, 08:30:02 PM
whats everyones predictions on who will go up and down in each of the 4 divisions
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 09, 2008, 10:38:01 PM
Dromintee will find it hard this year, big chunk of the team missing from a small panel. Hopefully do just enough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on March 09, 2008, 11:53:26 PM
think culloville will struggle this year and i think cullyhanna have the stuff to get results, esp at home to keep them up, as do killeavy possibly, so its a tough call. the bridge and cruppen i would think will be top two in division 2 with port mor, sarsfields, wolfe tones in a relegation battle. dont really know a whole lot about the other 2 divisions to be honest but i suppose you'd be expectin annaghmore and the peters possibly to be seriously challenging to get back up. shane o neills should win division 4 but you never know.

anyway, just my opinion for all its worth. was anyone up at forkhill today to see south armagh select v down u21s?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 10, 2008, 09:51:53 AM
Corn, why is there a big chunk of the Dromintee lads missing?????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on March 10, 2008, 11:20:17 AM
Quote from: qub la la la on March 09, 2008, 11:53:26 PM


anyway, just my opinion for all its worth. was anyone up at forkhill today to see south armagh select v down u21s?


No. but i hear the Select Team were beat by a couple of points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 10, 2008, 12:05:29 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on March 09, 2008, 08:30:02 PM
whats everyones predictions on who will go up and down in each of the 4 divisions

Difficult to say at this stage - I would expect Division 1 to be tight, I do think Cullaville will struggle, I was surprised they stayed up last year.  If any of the other clubs think they'll get easy games in Cullyhanna or Killeavy they'll be in for a shock, I expect both to stay up.
Division 2 will be close at the top - I'd say promotion will be between Cruppen, ourselves, Whitecross and Newtown. Tones would need a massive improvement or they'll stuggle again.  I think Sarsfields will be ok but An Port Mor may struggle.  It'll be interesting to see what Tir Na Og do.
I don't know too much on the rest of the divisions but I'd expect Annaghmore to be favourites to be promoted again, they were very unlucky last year and really shouldn't have went down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 10, 2008, 02:10:24 PM
I believe the 2 promoted clubs to the 1st Div will stay up and i think the relegation battle will be as close as the last few years (a few play off's to decide it) Culloville will go down and take your pick with the rest. the 2nd division also looks tasty as there are about 6 clubs with genuine chances of promotion as for relegation "sorry don't get involved that far down as i don't know to much about them" whoever gets the good start to the season and gets the momentum usually wins the leagues.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 10, 2008, 07:00:15 PM
Pints i like the new icon lad.  :D How do you go about getting them saved as your icon without having to accept the shite ones on this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 10, 2008, 11:02:54 PM
Win

5 with Armagh and 1 with Louth.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 10, 2008, 11:31:11 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 10, 2008, 07:00:15 PM
Pints i like the new icon lad.  :D How do you go about getting them saved as your icon without having to accept the shite ones on this?

Accept what shite ones?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on March 11, 2008, 01:01:00 AM
My icon is boring.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on March 11, 2008, 11:07:10 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 10, 2008, 07:00:15 PM
Pints i like the new icon lad.  :D How do you go about getting them saved as your icon without having to accept the shite ones on this?

win, you need to find an avatar and then link the web address for the picture in your profile. go to Profile, Forum Profile Info, and tick 'I have my own pic' and paste the link to the picute in that field. should resolve the problem.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 11, 2008, 11:31:33 AM
The shite ones that i am currently using and the ones that are linked with the board itself. It is ok st pauls has already told me to how to do it, cheers lad.  Corn that shouldn't be to bad you will have them back when it counts. Is Mc Ardle playing club football in Louth or is he just lining out for the county team???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on March 11, 2008, 04:32:35 PM
Lads who is managing the Og's this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on March 11, 2008, 04:39:57 PM

Benny still plays his club football with Dromintee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 11, 2008, 05:14:23 PM
Quote from: Uladh on March 11, 2008, 04:39:57 PM

Benny still plays his club football with Dromintee

Winsam was talking pure manure there, i'll have to clip his wings tonight. Of course he's still playing with Dromintee or he wouldn't be counted as the 1 guy who goes to Louth training. I'm sure he'll have a good reply for this though... :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on March 11, 2008, 05:47:00 PM
lads any idea where I could get the armagh 2002 road to the final dvd?

I know there was one floating around at the time - but can't seem to find it online

any help appreciated
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on March 11, 2008, 08:52:53 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on March 11, 2008, 04:32:35 PM
Lads who is managing the Og's this year?

from a reliable source the ogs dont even know themselves who's running them the year...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 11, 2008, 09:00:57 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on March 11, 2008, 08:52:53 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on March 11, 2008, 04:32:35 PM
Lads who is managing the Og's this year?

from a reliable source the ogs dont even know themselves who's running them the year...

Isn't it about time they did?  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on March 12, 2008, 08:26:34 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on March 11, 2008, 05:47:00 PM
lads any idea where I could get the armagh 2002 road to the final dvd?

I know there was one floating around at the time - but can't seem to find it online

any help appreciated

Try gaastore.com, They are outside portadown, but check their website
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on March 12, 2008, 08:26:55 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 11, 2008, 01:01:00 AM
My icon is boring.

So is mine!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Old Bill on March 12, 2008, 10:17:58 AM
Oisin Mc conville has said this season will be his last with armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 12, 2008, 10:40:33 AM
Quote from: corn02 on March 09, 2008, 10:38:01 PM
Dromintee will find it hard this year, big chunk of the team missing from a small panel. Hopefully do just enough.


The Key word there was missing so i wasn't sure if he was missing permanently or he was just on county duty. The other stipulation just said there was 5 and 1 missing from the panel Again the one could have been permanent ,So leave my middle alone will ya on this board you deciding person you. :). I am in a foul mood today, cheltenham has been put to the sword and i thought today was my day :) Wakened up this morning to watch the morning line before work and "choc" Thorton was breaking the bad news, could have choked the bollox.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 12, 2008, 10:41:44 AM
Iceman if all else fails you are bound to get one on Ebay.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 12, 2008, 11:07:16 AM
I hope the Ogs dont get a manager and as a result ten of their senior team decide not to play and head to the states! NICE! :D ;D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 12, 2008, 11:12:18 AM
Quote from: Old Bill on March 12, 2008, 10:17:58 AM
Oisin Mc conville has said this season will be his last with armagh.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7291393.stm (http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7291393.stm)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 12, 2008, 11:58:41 AM
Iceman i typed that search for you into ebay and one result game up

Brits In South Armagh DVD IRA TROUBLES ARMY SINN FEIN . Classic  :D :D :D

so it looks like that avenue is out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on March 12, 2008, 01:13:41 PM
thanks lads - only thing i have found is a dvd of the final - but not the road to the final

my da has a vhs at home of the road to the final, highlights of the games throughout the championship but can't find a dvd

surprised its not out there
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: feetofflames on March 12, 2008, 01:18:40 PM
If Oisin does go at the end of they year, what are the odds that Tyrone the team he has said he hated are his last game in the championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on March 12, 2008, 01:23:00 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 12, 2008, 11:07:16 AM
I hope the Ogs dont get a manager and as a result ten of their senior team decide not to play and head to the states! NICE! :D ;D ;)

WTF is this all about??
The Ogs have the same management setup as last year!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 12, 2008, 01:30:56 PM
I was wondering - i'd heard Clarke & Houlie were still in charge!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 12, 2008, 01:33:53 PM
You may go back to your reliable source Qub!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on March 13, 2008, 01:19:40 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on March 12, 2008, 01:30:56 PM
I was wondering - i'd heard Clarke & Houlie were still in charge!

well if they're not, I wonder who was making me do them horrible drills last night  >:( :( ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on March 13, 2008, 01:46:44 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on March 13, 2008, 01:19:40 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on March 12, 2008, 01:30:56 PM
I was wondering - i'd heard Clarke & Houlie were still in charge!

well if they're not, I wonder who was making me do them horrible drills last night  >:( :( ???

hardly matter lads they are still a poor team who will do feck all the year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 13, 2008, 02:17:36 PM
don't know what drills you guys are doing. They Make trainings days drag when all you can think about is the vomitting that night :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on March 13, 2008, 08:31:30 PM
This seems more suitable for this thread. Eugene Creaney is grumbling about the amount of Cross men on the panel again. I'm not surprised he doesn't put his name to it:
Edit: just noticed he kind of does...

WIN NEEDED BY ARMAGH

By Staff reporter
ARMAGH manager Peter McDonnell has increased the number of Crossmaglen players on the Armagh panel to nine following the recent introduction of Paul Kernan, Brendan McKeown and David McKenna, writes Eugene Creaney.
The new trio will be joined by Ulster's all time top scorer Oisin McConville, Francie Bellew, Aaron Kernan, Steven Kernan, Tony Kernan and goalkeeper Paul Hearty.

The recent news comes at a time when Lurgan clubs are struggling to gain recognition on county squads.

Clan na Gael's Ronan Austin is currently recovering from a broken ankle, Sarsfields player Paul McGaughey who made a brief appearance in the McKenna Cup would be expected to start in Armagh's under 21 championship game against either Monaghan or Donegal next Saturday week.

In the modern era only the most unconditionally loyal Lurgan fans feel a total commitment to the Armagh team with many seeing the situation like watching the Ireland Rugby team without any Ulster players.

Another club highly represented on the Armagh squad are Pearse Og who have seven representatives.

Armagh host Roscommon on Sunday at Crossmaglen and a win could ease Peter McDonnell's team's relegation worries, which were increased in an unlucky defeat against Monaghan last time out.

Armagh this week are expected to appeal Paul McGrane's red card which the Ballyhegan player received against Monaghan, but in his absence several midfielders could come into the running, Paul Courtney, James Lavery, Gareth O'Neill and Granemore's Kieran Toner may all push for places.

Steven McDonnell should be fit for Sunday but Andy Mallon is still carrying a shoulder injury and Enda McNulty may not be fully fit. Charlie Vernon is also out and currently Philip Loughran is being treated for a back injury.

Armagh should win but it could be close
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 13, 2008, 08:34:42 PM
QuoteIn the modern era only the most unconditionally loyal Lurgan fans feel a total commitment to the Armagh team
Is this true?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on March 13, 2008, 08:49:57 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 13, 2008, 08:34:42 PM
Is this true?

Ach there's always been a bit of moaning, but probably not as bad on our side of the town because we had Diarmuid and Bumpy there and now Austin and Moriarty from down road a bit. In reality, it would take an "unconditionally loyal" Lurgan club man to come up with better panelists from the town than Cavanan, McAlinden  and Kernan managed. In saying that there's a few of them knocking about Davitt Park.

As an aside, it's funny how memories fade. I was talking to a couple of wee lasses the other day, one from your neck of the woods and the other from I think Derrynoose who's a panelist with the uni freshers with hopes of making the county – both had never heard of the two Lurgan men with AI medals, but significantly they knew of the Ashburn Hotel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on March 13, 2008, 10:23:28 PM
Armagh Seniors and under 21's trained together on Tuesday night and Cross had 16 players there in total.
Don't tell Eugene Creaney !!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 14, 2008, 09:23:37 AM
Lads the South Armagh men might not know it but Eugene Creaney is a tube and knows little about Gaelic football, how that man actually gets a salary for writing for the Lurgan Mail is beyond me. Majority of the guys around Lurgan know he's a plank and take whatever he says with a pinch of salt (if you read his articles you have too)

As for the Lurgan support for Armagh there are still plenty of Armagh fans around the town. However, the interest in some have dwindled and that goes for me as well and it's only natural when you had 2 club men on the team for years then they retire and you don't know any of the guys on the team it doesn't have the same appeal. Don't get me wrong i haven't missed a championship match since 97 but the last few years i have noticed the interest slipping ever so slightly, maybe it's down to having a bigger interest in the club as well...(Feck i need to stop, it's starting to feel like an autobiography :D)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on March 14, 2008, 09:30:54 AM
With all them Cross men on county duty, I take it you're confident of putting up a better performance again them in the league than last year illdecide?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 14, 2008, 10:09:41 AM
Quote from: Donagh on March 14, 2008, 09:30:54 AM
With all them Cross men on county duty, I take it you're confident of putting up a better performance again them in the league than last year illdecide?

Well Donagh we can't do any worse ;) It should be a good tight game though and i'm really looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on March 14, 2008, 11:05:13 AM
Are you still playing ildecide?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 14, 2008, 12:16:47 PM
Quote from: Uladh on March 14, 2008, 11:05:13 AM
Are you still playing ildecide?

Sort off?? I havent' stripped out yet this year but hope to start serious training next week and hopefully after 4-6 weeks i'll be available for selection. (getting picked is another thing ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on March 14, 2008, 01:59:08 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 14, 2008, 09:23:37 AM
Lads the South Armagh men might not know it but Eugene Creaney is a tube and knows little about Gaelic football, how that man actually gets a salary for writing for the Lurgan Mail is beyond me. Majority of the guys around Lurgan know he's a plank and take whatever he says with a pinch of salt (if you read his articles you have too)

As for the Lurgan support for Armagh there are still plenty of Armagh fans around the town. However, the interest in some have dwindled and that goes for me as well and it's only natural when you had 2 club men on the team for years then they retire and you don't know any of the guys on the team it doesn't have the same appeal. Don't get me wrong i haven't missed a championship match since 97 but the last few years i have noticed the interest slipping ever so slightly, maybe it's down to having a bigger interest in the club as well...(Feck i need to stop, it's starting to feel like an autobiography :D)

Armagh football is in total disoray with them scum cross dominating beacuse the county board is up there ass- the clans has a few men who would and should walk n that so called county tem

i hope the scum go down to division far who cares!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 14, 2008, 02:13:07 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on March 14, 2008, 01:59:08 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 14, 2008, 09:23:37 AM
Lads the South Armagh men might not know it but Eugene Creaney is a tube and knows little about Gaelic football, how that man actually gets a salary for writing for the Lurgan Mail is beyond me. Majority of the guys around Lurgan know he's a plank and take whatever he says with a pinch of salt (if you read his articles you have too)

As for the Lurgan support for Armagh there are still plenty of Armagh fans around the town. However, the interest in some have dwindled and that goes for me as well and it's only natural when you had 2 club men on the team for years then they retire and you don't know any of the guys on the team it doesn't have the same appeal. Don't get me wrong i haven't missed a championship match since 97 but the last few years i have noticed the interest slipping ever so slightly, maybe it's down to having a bigger interest in the club as well...(Feck i need to stop, it's starting to feel like an autobiography :D)

Armagh football is in total disoray with them scum cross dominating beacuse the county board is up there ass- the clans has a few men who would and should walk n that so called county tem

i hope the scum go down to division far who cares!!

gaapunter are you on drugs ???if not you should be
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on March 15, 2008, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on March 14, 2008, 01:59:08 PM
Armagh football is in total disoray with them scum cross dominating beacuse the county board is up there ass- the clans has a few men who would and should walk n that so called county tem

i hope the scum go down to division far who cares!!

cross dominate because they are a superior team to any other the county has to offer. With ten on the u21 panel there dominance is set to continue for another while. the county board have little to do with the development on the cross under age players asusually lads from cross do not turn out for development squads.

Quote from: Donagh on March 13, 2008, 08:31:30 PM
Enda McNulty may not be fully fit.

When was he???

Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 12, 2008, 01:33:53 PM
You may go back to your reliable source Qub!



source is definately reliable. at the minute its the same as last year but it doesnt sound like its to continue that way for much longer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umpire on March 16, 2008, 05:12:52 PM
Sunday 16th March. In Crossmaglen
Armagh V Roscommon

         C.McKinney;
Barry Shannon   Brendan Donaghy    Fintan Moriarty;
Ciaran McKeever    Aidan O'Rourke    Aaron Kernan;
Kieran Toner Gareth Swift
Stephen Kernan   Martin O'Rourke   Paul Courtney
Stephen McDonnell Ronan Clarke    Tony Kernan;

2 Mins
Roscommon p
Armagh 0.0 Roscommon 0.1
4 Mins
Stephen McDonnell free
Armagh 0.1 Roscommon 0.1
6 Mins
Tony Kernan
Armagh 0.2 Roscommon 0.1
11 Mins
Stephen McDonnell Goal
Armagh 1.2 Roscommon 0.1
12 Mins
Roscommon p
Armagh 1.2 Roscommon 0.2
13 Mins
Stephen McDonnell P
Armagh 1.3 Roscommon 0.2
14 Mins
Roscommon p
Armagh 1.3 Roscommon 0.3
21 Mins
Roscommon p
Armagh 1.3 Roscommon 0.4
22 Mins
Stephen McDonnell free p
Armagh 1.4 Roscommon 0.4
24 Mins
Ronan Clarke p
Armagh 1.5 Roscommon 0.4
25 Mins
Roscommon P
Armagh 1.5 Roscommon 0.5
27 Mins
Yellow cards Francis Dolan & Fintan Moriarty
32 Mins
Stephen McDonnell P
Armagh 1.6 Roscommon 0.5
33 Mins
Stephen McDonnell P
Armagh 1.7 Roscommon 0.5
34 Mins
Stephen McDonnell P
Armagh 1.8 Roscommon 0.5
2 Mins in injury time
Aaron Kernan P
Armagh 1.9 Roscommon 0.5

Half time
Armagh 1.9 Roscommon 0.5

Second half
5 Mins
Aaron Kernan p
Armagh 1.10 Roscommon 0.5
6 Mins
Roscommon P
Armagh 1.10 Roscommon 0.6
7 Mins
Ronan Clarke p
Armagh 1.11 Roscommon 0.6
10 Mins
Stephen McDonnell P
Armagh 1.12 Roscommon 0.6
13 Mins
Tony Kernan free P
Armagh 1.13 Roscommon 0.6
16 Mins
Ciaran McKeever P
Armagh 1.14 Roscommon 0.6
17 Mins
Sub Francis Bellew replaced Fintan Moriarty
18 Mins
Roscommon P
Armagh 1.14 Roscommon 0.7
19 Mins
Gareth Swift P
Armagh 1.15 Roscommon 0.7
20 Mins
Paul Courtney P
Armagh 1.16 Roscommon 0.7
20 Mins
Sub O. McConville for Tony Kernan
22 Mins
O. McConville p
Armagh 1.17 Roscommon 0.7
22 Mins
Sub Brian Mallon for Paul Courtney
23 Mins
Stephen McDonnell Goal
Armagh 2.17 Roscommon 0.7
23 Mins
Brian Mallon Goal
Armagh 3.17 Roscommon 0.7
25 Mins
Roscommon p
Armagh 3.17 Roscommon 0.8
25 Mins
David McKenna, Malachy Mackin James Laverty are on
28 Mins
Stephen McDonnell P
Armagh 3.18 Roscommon 0.8
29 Mins
Aaron Kernan P
Armagh 3.19 Roscommon 0.8
30 Mins
Ronan Clarke Goal
Armagh 4.19 Roscommon 0.8
33 Mins
Armagh p   (don't know)
Armagh 4.20 Roscommon 0.8
Full time

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on March 16, 2008, 05:30:04 PM
what is the point of last post??? why bother? and mal mackin did not feature.

anyway, good result and a few lads looked back to form. mcdonnell was brilliant as was clarke. mckeever excelled as captain today, he capped off a great display witha great score and eve cut out all the usual oul dirty shite. full back line didnt have much to do. thought swift had a good first half. good to see a few old heads back along with the young lads.

but lets not get carried away, roscommon are absolutly brutal, the worst intercounty display i think ive ever seen. the scoreboard read like an all ireland hurling quarter final involving antrim!!

seen paul caffrey scouting, will be a totally different game next time out..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on March 16, 2008, 05:31:09 PM
U at the match QUB? How midfield go?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on March 16, 2008, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on March 16, 2008, 05:31:09 PM
U at the match QUB? How midfield go?

yea, midfield played well, swift and toner worked hard, and had loads of support from the break ball winners. but lets be realistic, there was no dara o se's on display
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on March 16, 2008, 05:37:02 PM
also in response to that long winded run down of the match. ronan clarke did not score a goal, mcdonnell got all three. if your gonna write such a detailed match report you'd think you'd get it right!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on March 16, 2008, 05:41:58 PM

Armagh scored 4 goals... mallon getting one.

Good performance against rubbish opposition. i hope the lads keep the heads after that... dublin will be lying wait. i actually hate days like that when they stuff opposition that basically didn't show up and people will start fawning over the performance. roscommon still had to be beat and the job was done well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on March 17, 2008, 11:02:37 AM
QUB stop acting the bollix slagging off Umpire, he was only trying to let us know how the match was going, was better than gettin a score update every fifteen mins or so with no points scorers etc.

Ban qub la la la if you ask me!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Mhic Easmuint on March 17, 2008, 09:56:36 PM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 18, 2008, 10:32:59 AM
Well lads any club games at the weekend to report? Would love to see the Armagh v Dublin game in a fortnight but we have a game that day... >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on March 18, 2008, 10:39:23 AM

The league does't start til the week after ID?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 18, 2008, 11:42:27 AM
 Correct uladh my friend who's always watching and analyses every word.  :D But on this occassion you have shot yourself in the foot. You see ID as you call him just said we had a match!!!!!!!! No mention of the league. A MR Pat Mc Mahon cup game against the mighty men from the Wolfe Tones.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on March 18, 2008, 11:49:17 AM

winsam. i really do wonder why you bother.

ID - surely a man wth your connections could rearrange the starting time of a nothing game like that to support your county?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 18, 2008, 11:59:41 AM
Quote from: Uladh on March 18, 2008, 11:49:17 AM

winsam. i really do wonder why you bother.

ID - surely a man wth your connections could rearrange the starting time of a nothing game like that to support your county?

I don't know what connections you think i have ??? but i'm sure the game will have an early throw in so we can at least watch it on TV (which i assume a big game like that will be live on TG4)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 18, 2008, 11:12:16 PM
Uladh this match has already been called off to many times and the rest of the of the teams in the competition so it will have to be played and the dubs match put on record.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 19, 2008, 11:04:57 AM
Are you all getting ready for the 7's on sat. I doubt any county men will be playing for their clubs on sat!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on March 20, 2008, 11:56:45 AM

We'll be down but looks like we'll be sending a b team due to a senior match.

what time does the 7s start?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on March 20, 2008, 12:02:51 PM
Good to see someone in the couty board has their thinking cap on with the introduction of a reserve league this year, with the games before the senior game, as i have called for on this thread before.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on March 20, 2008, 12:08:59 PM

Does that mean b games are to be played directly before senior games on a sunday. good idea in principal.

does that mean the b league is now an all county one with the diviions decided by the status of a club's senior team?

Pitches will have trouble holding up for two games at this time of year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 20, 2008, 12:19:10 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on March 20, 2008, 12:08:59 PM

Does that mean b games are to be played directly before senior games on a sunday. good idea in principal.

does that mean the b league is now an all county one with the diviions decided by the status of a club's senior team?

Pitches will have trouble holding up for two games at this time of year

We're not having a 2nd team, just a "B team" as usual so you're 2nd team will have a free day when you're playing us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on March 20, 2008, 12:21:15 PM
not all clubs have entered a team, but theres a set of fixtures in the county board fixture booklet last two pages, starts on the 6th april, seen it last night, we've cullyhanna in the seniors and reserves,  so id say senior game at 2.30 for example and reserve game at 12 30.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on March 20, 2008, 12:27:58 PM

Right, so its a second team which is different from the b team? what are the rules on who can play for the seconds or the bs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on March 20, 2008, 12:31:46 PM
Topgun can you confirm this??? are you the topgun in your club or how do you know this?????????  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on March 20, 2008, 12:47:03 PM
Candyman, next time your in the club ill show u the fixture book!! ;)

not sure, on the rules, ill check that out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on March 20, 2008, 12:53:44 PM
what club u from, Port Mór???  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 20, 2008, 12:54:34 PM
Quote from: Candyman on March 20, 2008, 12:31:46 PM
Topgun can you confirm this??? are you the topgun in your club or how do you know this?????????  :D

I'll have a look at the fixture books when I'm home for lunch and see what it says...

As for who plays and who doesn't. I assume as long as you have registered you're senior players then anyone else can participate???Wouldn't put the wages on it though...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on March 20, 2008, 12:59:30 PM
Quote from: Candyman on March 20, 2008, 12:53:44 PM
what club u from, Port Mór???  :D
SIT U DOWN CANDYMAN!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on March 20, 2008, 01:45:08 PM
Based on teh teams in Division 1 - The B fixtures will mirror the Senior fixtures where possible(it's Senior at 2pm & B at 4pm for Sunday games), although I've heard some teams will not be entering and the likes of Granemore will be making up the numbers.

It's the same rules as per any B team,Clubs name a Senior first 15 and the rest of the senior panel are eligible for B. 

At the minute the midweek North, Mid and South B leagues go ahead as planned.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 20, 2008, 02:10:34 PM
I checked the fixtures there and true enough it has us down to play Crossmaglen on the 6th April (senior and reserve) Well what do ya know. We are not entering a 2nd team just the usual B team so not sure where that leaves us or the fixtures...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on March 20, 2008, 02:12:51 PM
Would there be many clubs with 30+ players each Sunday?

I can't see it working.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on March 20, 2008, 05:25:08 PM
I hope that it works as it will give a number of guys a game who would normally be warming the bench on a sunday with their senior side. Some fellas have been subs for a number of years and because they are part of a senior panel may not be allowed to play regular b-football on a wed night.At least this guarantees they will get a game on a sunday. problems will arise with Friday night fixtures and refixtures. I wonder who will be refereeing though or will we have the pleasure of big Sam etc for two games on a Sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on March 20, 2008, 06:00:42 PM
Boys a few of you ave it wrong in regards to this reserve league...was at the county board meeting and any player can play for the seconds even a county player for example who is coming back from injury...the first 15 only implies to championship...the first two league games will be the tester to see wil teams field, but personally, i tink the reserve game should be after the senior one
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on March 20, 2008, 07:47:45 PM
You have picked that up wrong Real1995 the first 15 rule definitely applies to the B league. 

As regards the B Championship anyone who has not played in the senior, Int or Junior championship in the current or previous year can play B championship.  We were in a situation last year were Collie Holmes was eligible for the B championship!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: under the bar on March 20, 2008, 09:41:35 PM
Anyone hear that a high profile ex-Armagh player is on the verge of bankruptcy due to his property dealings?  Lots of men in the same boat I know but a press associate says a pro-brit sunday rag is about to out the story.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on March 21, 2008, 11:17:23 AM

do tell underthebar...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 21, 2008, 11:49:43 AM
he leaves us in suspense
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: KIDDO 4 on March 22, 2008, 04:56:52 PM
Donegal 1.11, Armagh 0.10 , in  the Ulster u21 championship this afternoon  , with the winners playing Derry in the Ulster  semi final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on March 23, 2008, 02:12:00 AM
a sloppy goal in first half from a high ball in made all the difference. armagh could have won the game but for long periods there was too little movement up front. forker, carragher and o'rourke were the only ones really showing up front. hanratty played rightly out round the middle. mcgaughey hardly touched leather at all and wasnt changed until the last few minutes. maybe benny should have put himself on, he spent as just as much time on the field as the players. the defense played well except for conceding the sloppy goal right at the start. ref gave some comical decisions in donegals favour. that said down look the team to beat this year and on todays display they would be good enough to take either team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on March 23, 2008, 06:15:39 PM

i hear there was a bit of fisticuffs at the 7s... anyone at it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2008, 06:21:30 PM
Quote from: Uladh on March 23, 2008, 06:15:39 PM

i hear there was a bit of fisticuffs at the 7s... anyone at it?

Why don't you tell us what you heard?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on March 23, 2008, 06:38:25 PM

well that'd be unsubstantiated hearsay, wouldn't it. i much prefer being able to blame other people for that.... but i heard cross and clans had a couple of battles with new county panellist john murtagh getting a straight red for kicking....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on March 23, 2008, 09:26:42 PM
Quotewell that'd be unsubstantiated hearsay, wouldn't it. i much prefer being able to blame other people for that.... but i heard cross and clans had a couple of battles with new county panellist john murtagh getting a straight red for kicking....

John Murtagh on the County Panel - You have got to be joking.  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2008, 09:33:12 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on March 23, 2008, 09:26:42 PM
Quotewell that'd be unsubstantiated hearsay, wouldn't it. i much prefer being able to blame other people for that.... but i heard cross and clans had a couple of battles with new county panellist john murtagh getting a straight red for kicking....

John Murtagh on the County Panel - You have got to be joking.  :o

Jeeze exile not like you to make a comment like that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on March 23, 2008, 09:56:49 PM

Think that makes 10 players from the county champions on the senior panel now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 24, 2008, 01:10:12 PM
Correct murtagh was given a straight red and he then went off which meant cross should have been down to 6 men. But they continued to play with 7 and scored their second goal with seven men on the field. The official umpires, linesmen and of course the clown in the middle failed to notice this. By the time they did the cross guy had crept back of the field and they had 6. Clans had 6 aswell as they had a player sent of in the same incident for striking. So Cross had a man sent of and still had a one man advantage for 2 to 3 minutes. Scoring a crucual goal. That said they were the better side. Donaldson also got player of the tournament for his usual fouling all day session.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on March 24, 2008, 01:32:55 PM

which fine, upstanding gent was officiating?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on March 24, 2008, 06:02:48 PM
I was at the 7's on Saturday and seen every game, apart from the Mullaghbawn/Ballymacnab game. I was right beside the Murtagh incident and to be fair he slammed the ball home from close range which the Clans keeper tried to dive at his feet, now weather Murtagh's boot caught him by accident or not I'm not sure, but there didn't seem to be any deliberate intention on Murtagh's behalf, there was a few words of verbal & the Clans keeper downed him. 

This all started in the first game when a clans player for no reason that i could see busted Tony Kernan of the ball, so I guess it was simmering from then.
The Ref was poor I have to admit, but he could have so easily sent off a few more, notably Marsden he was slapping McKeown anytime he got a chance & to be fair to McKeown he held his head & got on with it.  One thing I did notice though was that Marsden didn't happen to come back after Donal Murtagh had a go at him at a sideline ball & another when Donaldson clearly caught him with an upper cut, but I guess if it would have been anyone else he would having been looking to box, but for some reason he seemed to accept it from the 2 mentioned above (Perhaps he'd have been bitting off more than he could chew with any of these 2).

Barry O'Hagan is still a class player and should still be playing with Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on March 24, 2008, 06:08:45 PM
does anyone know are the minor club fixtures made yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 25, 2008, 01:49:35 PM
Nice for the lads to win a 7's tournament.  It was always a game that the likes of the Clanns were better than us at because of their style of football so to beat them in the final madfe it even sweeter ;D


Whatever people say about John D it is amazing that a man who has so many miles on his legs like he has can win player of the Tournament at 7's.  Winsamsoon, there have been a fair few "rough" players in clanns, Bumpy and Kevin being good examples.  Get over it!  I would say that of all players on show that JD annd Bumpy would have been a step above the rest in terms of ability at that level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 26, 2008, 09:07:54 AM
Lads there were a few incidents but thats football, if someone gets a slap on the chin "so what" dust yourself down man and get on with it. Cross won the tournament and deservedly so. The incident that Winsam talks about def happened but there you go sometimes they go against you and sometimes they go against you ;) The ref was an Ogs man can't remember his name but not Mr McKee ;)

J Murtagh def kicked the Clans keeper and got biffed for his troubles (although J Murtagh got punched by a 11 stone guy but went down like Winsam had hit him :D :D) in fairness both men got the line and rightly so. All in all it was a good day and well run just a pity it was Baltic (still haven't thawed out)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 26, 2008, 01:23:14 PM
I don't think JD ws the best player on show i though Aaron Kernan was actually the best on show that day. BRoken there is a difference in "Rough" players and dirty hallions. That man Donaldson is a danger on the field. He is hitting on the ball and off the ball and i am surprised he hasn't broke someone jaw or worse. Goh you also failed to mention that MC Geown was hanging out of diarmuid like a Jockey on a horse and the ref was giving him no protection at all, So when the ref ain't giving you it you must protect yourself. Also Murtagh threw a sneeky dig at marsden when he went out to get the ball for a sideline kick but then again Murtagh was another hallion. The best craic of the day though was when the Cullyhanna lads were arriving the Silverbridge lads were standing at the clubhouse and a well known Cullyhanna lad roared "theres those Silverbridge gypsies" Brought back all the old arguments from the board. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 26, 2008, 06:09:47 PM
Lads, can anyone tell me does the county board produce an annual yearbook?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on March 26, 2008, 07:33:30 PM
sounds like your doing some sort of research/coursework there corn?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 26, 2008, 07:44:30 PM
No just a general wonderment, I was flicking through the Down book recently. Shame Armagh have nothing similar.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on March 27, 2008, 12:34:02 PM
QuoteNo just a general wonderment, I was flicking through the Down book recently. Shame Armagh have nothing similar.

Corn, if you already know the answer why are you asking?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 27, 2008, 02:03:34 PM
I think corn was just supposing there is nothing similar because he never received any replies telling him there was one. Once again this doesn't warrant a personal attack on him for asking a GAA question on a GAA board. For the record corn i know of no such book in Armagh but i agree it would be a good idea.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on March 27, 2008, 02:13:57 PM

I can't be sure but think there might have been one for a few years i the 90s?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on March 27, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
Wins,
What personal attack are you talking about?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on March 27, 2008, 04:22:21 PM
Any Team named yet for the Dublin game yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on March 27, 2008, 04:23:13 PM
Sorry Lads, should posted that on the Armagh v Dorty Dubs page! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 27, 2008, 06:31:26 PM
QuoteNo just a general wonderment, I was flicking through the Down book recently. Shame Armagh have nothing similar.

Think I remember being given soemthing like a yearbook for Christmas in 2002. Mighta just been a celebratory edition for winning the All Ireland though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on March 27, 2008, 07:03:27 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 26, 2008, 01:23:14 PM
I don't think JD ws the best player on show i though Aaron Kernan was actually the best on show that day. BRoken there is a difference in "Rough" players and dirty hallions. That man Donaldson is a danger on the field. He is hitting on the ball and off the ball and i am surprised he hasn't broke someone jaw or worse. Goh you also failed to mention that MC Geown was hanging out of diarmuid like a Jockey on a horse and the ref was giving him no protection at all, So when the ref ain't giving you it you must protect yourself. Also Murtagh threw a sneeky dig at marsden when he went out to get the ball for a sideline kick but then again Murtagh was another hallion. The best craic of the day though was when the Cullyhanna lads were arriving the Silverbridge lads were standing at the clubhouse and a well known Cullyhanna lad roared "theres those Silverbridge gypsies" Brought back all the old arguments from the board. :D :D :D
was beside the cullyhanna boys and i never heard a thing so think ur makin things up am sure
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 27, 2008, 11:07:05 PM
Courtney out , McGrane in, otherwise same as.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: under the bar on March 28, 2008, 08:59:35 AM
I see Armagh are currently 25/1 for Sam.   Any of you lads having a punt at this?    Got to be value since it's basically the same core team as were 10/1 last year and since you now have a manager who's tactically astutue & not afraid to make changes, I might just have £10 e/w on it. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on March 28, 2008, 10:44:04 AM

You never came back to us with your bankruptcy candidate UTB?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on March 28, 2008, 11:26:39 AM
must have been rubbish.

Can someone please clarify this reserve/b league situation? Someone who actually knows what they're talking about, seems to be alot of nonsense and conflicting accounts on this thread.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: under the bar on March 28, 2008, 11:34:19 AM
QuoteYou never came back to us with your bankruptcy candidate UTB?

To name him on a public forum would be tantamount to libel, however I've since spoken a businessman who was asked if he would purchase some of his properties to help bail him out, so it seems to be true.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on March 28, 2008, 11:35:49 AM
Internet libel is very uncertain ground. You wouldn't be guilty of libel anyway, the publisher would i.e. the board. Give us some clues?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on March 28, 2008, 11:54:57 AM
UTB, at least tell us what era this guy played in, was it recently or was it long time ago when men were men,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on March 28, 2008, 12:01:11 PM
...women were men and sheep were nervous.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 28, 2008, 12:53:09 PM
Legs if you were standing beside te cullyhanna lads then you would have seen the clans guys stading with the silverbridge team???? It would serve me no favours to make something like this up. I heard it, you didn't but this doesn't mean it didn't happen. Like the incident the ref doesn't see but the crowd do, point being it still happened .
On the yearbook i also got one of them in 2002 but like yourself i think it was only for the All Ireland .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 28, 2008, 05:22:33 PM
What got up your hole Exile? I was saying Shame because I don't recall having one apart from the All-Ireland one. If there was one, I hadn't seen it, which means it wasn't about too much. There will be one next year, it is to be raised at the next county meeting.
Title: Re: Armagh Year Book
Post by: Armagh Exile on March 28, 2008, 06:40:23 PM
QuoteThere will be one next year, it is to be raised at the next county meeting.
Glad to see you will be doing something constructive Corn.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 28, 2008, 06:43:04 PM
Quote from: under the bar on March 28, 2008, 11:34:19 AM
QuoteYou never came back to us with your bankruptcy candidate UTB?

To name him on a public forum would be tantamount to libel, however I've since spoken a businessman who was asked if he would purchase some of his properties to help bail him out, so it seems to be true.

So what are you talking about it for?  Seems to me you're enjoying the misfortune of another as if gives you the chance to gossip like an oul woman. 
I couldn't give a f**k who it is but, whoever it is, good luck to them and hopefully they'll sort it out. 


winsam
QuoteLegs if you were standing beside te cullyhanna lads then you would have seen the clans guys stading with the silverbridge team?Huh It would serve me no favours to make something like this up. I heard it, you didn't but this doesn't mean it didn't happen. Like the incident the ref doesn't see but the crowd do, point being it still happened .
On the yearbook i also got one of them in 2002 but like yourself i think it was only for the All Ireland .
You mean it actually happened?  :D
I thought illdecide was stirring the shit. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 28, 2008, 06:50:06 PM
Jesus Exile did I rattle your cage in another thread or something?|
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on March 28, 2008, 09:19:44 PM
I think pints has got it spot on. What the f**k has it got with this forum that a former player has some probs at work.There are some rare shit heads about.
Title: FAO doire na raithe
Post by: Uladh on March 28, 2008, 11:55:54 PM

From the club rivalries thread...

What sort of solution would you be offering? there are a larger than ever number of coaches from within your club do great work outside of your club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 29, 2008, 12:16:36 PM
Silverbridge  St. Michaels  Silverbridge 06/04/2008 14:00 TBC   
Tir Na nOg  Sarsfields  Tir Na Nog 06/04/2008 14:00 TBC   
Whitecross  Granemore  Whitecross 06/04/2008 14:00 TBC   
Ballymacnab  Carrickcruppin  Ballymacnab 06/04/2008 14:00 TBC   
Clann Eireann  Keady  Clann Eireann 06/04/2008 14:00 TBC   
An Port Mor  Wolfe Tones  An port mor 06/04/2008 14:00 TBC   


Firs round of fixtures for division 2.

Bridge v newtown  2 teams that will hope to be involved in the promotion battle.  newtown must start better as a bad start hindered their progress this year.  oroures admission from the county squad will benefit their chances. bridge must be less jeckyll and hyde will have to contend with the permanent loss of conlon(??).
Home advantage to help bridge prevail by minimum

Tirnanog v sarsfields 1 team down 1 team up.  on paper the portadown side must be fancied but alot will depend on the attitude new man adian farell has instilled in them.  the trasna outfit are likely to struggle and will gain most of their points on their own patch.  tirnanog by 3

whitecross v granemore whitecross will feel they should be in the first division and must get over this setback immediately if they are to achieve their aim of promotion.  they will be very hard to beat especially in their own backyard.  granemore will miss the influence of mcclelland in central issues.  cross by 4

nab v cruppen cruppen will be backboned by their county winning under 21 team and can draw great heart from their cship run last year.  keenan's omission from the county senior panel will help their chances, while thnab may be hindered by the loss of the man who may have replaced him brendan mccone.  Cruppen by 5

clann eireann v keady eireann lost nine on the bounce at the end of last year and must get an early pyschological win here.  the form of the inigma that is ryan henderson will have a big bearing on their season.  Keady are traditionally bad travellers and dont see that changing here.  Eireann by 4, both to struggle

anportmor v tones portmor will be most peoples favourites for the drop, though their pitch it tight and difficult to get a result at.  tones with a new man at the helm miceal magill (down all ireland winner) can hope to get some momentum from a favourable start to the campaign(nab and clann eireann to follow), though their home form must improve if this to be achieved.  tones by the minimum

Promoted: Cruppen/Whitecross

Relegated: keady/anport mor

Promotion push: newtown/tirnanog/bridge

mid table: tones/granemore

strugglers: srsfields/nab/clann eireann

any thoughts lads??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 29, 2008, 03:17:11 PM
Quotebridge must be less jeckyll and hyde will have to contend with the permanent loss of conlon(??).

What's to contend with?  ::) This will be second year without him and there's no lack of scoring forward talent, and won't be for the next 10-15 years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 29, 2008, 03:37:36 PM
any team in division 2 could do with him.  he was your main score getter.  i thought he was with yas last year for a bit was just saying it be interesting to see how yas cope without him for the full season.  yous are liable to beat cruppen and whitecross then lost to anport mor and keady
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 29, 2008, 04:03:58 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on March 29, 2008, 03:37:36 PM
any team in division 2 could do with him.  he was your main score getter.  i thought he was with yas last year for a bit was just saying it be interesting to see how yas cope without him for the full season.  yous are liable to beat cruppen and whitecross then lost to anport mor and keady

I think we'd only 4 games in the league played last year when he left and as far I can recall he only played one full game of those four (Keady in the bridge I think), came on late against St Peters, substitued against St. pats - didn't play at all against Tones as he was with the county. 
He was the highest scorer the year before and you  might have a point if scoring forwards were a problem for us but it's not.
The 'bridge usually can line out with 6 scoring forwards, McAvoy scores plenty from Midfield - Hamill showing already this year that he can do the same and both Reel and Bellew (half backs) capable of taking a few points - there is absoloutely no reason scores should be a problem for us and we can have no excuse if it is.

Quoteyous are liable to beat cruppen and whitecross then lost to anport mor and keady
Yeah I agree with that, consistency has been a problem although we weren't too bad last year for that with the obvious exception being Championship. 

I agree with your assessment that Cruppen and Whitecross are favourite to go up but if the 'bridge get a break with injuries we should go up, still a very young team but more than capable of it at this stage and if it had not been for a nightmare with injuries last year probably would have.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: myhairyarses on March 29, 2008, 10:02:17 PM
Played friendly today against as team from Armagh, Tullysarn (i think thats how you spell it). What would they be like? Our reserves played them and beat them by 1point. They were beating us well at halftime but they had a gale force wind, which we had in the 2nd half. I thought they were average enough with a handful of handy players and a 7ft monster standing in full-forward!

Fella marking me reckoned they were pushing to win the championship this year, and that they should win it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tyroneboi on March 29, 2008, 10:16:41 PM
who is managing tullysaran this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 30, 2008, 08:18:45 AM
Quote from: myhairyarses on March 29, 2008, 10:02:17 PM
Played friendly today against as team from Armagh, Tullysarn (i think thats how you spell it). What would they be like? Our reserves played them and beat them by 1point. They were beating us well at halftime but they had a gale force wind, which we had in the 2nd half. I thought they were average enough with a handful of handy players and a 7ft monster standing in full-forward!

Fella marking me reckoned they were pushing to win the championship this year, and that they should win it


Tullysaran are a division 3 team, and have never won a championship (at least not in the current Junior, Intermediate and Senior structure in Armagh). 
Should be one of the better teams in the Armagh junior championship this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: myhairyarses on March 30, 2008, 08:55:11 PM
Tyroneboi, found out last nite Tullysarn are being managed by a boy Quinn from Moortown, played a bit for Moortown, he applied for the Moortown managers job and they wouldnt even interview him, as hes a bit of a header (slaphead was the exact word that was used), and he goes and lands the club in Armagh. More dollars than sense Im told. ;)

Smokey Joe, I believe 1 of their players that played against us was Armagh minor captain last year, and colleges all-star.

Must keep an eye on irish news to see how they get on in their league/championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on March 30, 2008, 09:19:53 PM
Any word will todays debacle in cross affect the club fixtures next week-end. Armagh are now due to play Meat h on sat in Navan dublin the following wed and cork on the twelth of April meaning three games in eight days. Will the opening two rounds of the league be cancelled. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 30, 2008, 09:23:38 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on March 30, 2008, 09:19:53 PM
Any word will todays debacle in cross affect the club fixtures next week-end. Armagh are now due to play Meat h on sat in Navan dublin the following wed and cork on the twelth of April meaning three games in eight days. Will the opening two rounds of the league be cancelled. ???

I don't see why they would be cancelled.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on March 30, 2008, 10:30:16 PM
lads was just thinkin der,sum boys could will be playin 4 games in a week, Meath - Their Club - Dublin - and then Cork,.....Nasty!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 30, 2008, 10:39:16 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on March 30, 2008, 10:30:16 PM
lads was just thinkin der,sum boys could will be playin 4 games in a week, Meath - Their Club - Dublin - and then Cork,.....Nasty!
They probably won't be allowed to play for the club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: under the bar on March 30, 2008, 11:36:29 PM
QuoteUTB, at least tell us what era this guy played in, was it recently or was it long time ago when men were men,

He played on the AI winning team in 2002.  Saying no more.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 31, 2008, 09:26:59 AM
Quote from: under the bar on March 30, 2008, 11:36:29 PM
QuoteUTB, at least tell us what era this guy played in, was it recently or was it long time ago when men were men,

He played on the AI winning team in 2002.  Saying no more.

Has he got a big nose ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 31, 2008, 09:41:19 AM
That would narrow it down big time i'll decide to a group of brothers  ;) :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on March 31, 2008, 12:11:45 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 31, 2008, 09:41:19 AM
That would narrow it down big time i'll decide to a group of brothers  ;) :D :D :D

There was only one inferred brother playing on the 2002 team so that would rule him out as utb said property dealings.
there's only one player from the 2002 team who i know dabbles in property in a major way.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on March 31, 2008, 12:30:41 PM
He's now a Manager.... ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: I SHOT JR on March 31, 2008, 12:37:11 PM
Where will the game against Dublin be on the Wednesday night?  Do Cross have good floodlights?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on March 31, 2008, 12:38:52 PM
the games at 6:30 so flood lights shouldn't be required.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Nimbus on March 31, 2008, 12:43:46 PM
Quote from: Candyman on March 31, 2008, 12:30:41 PM
He's now a Manager.... ???

People are just going to start guessing this mans identity and the wrong name will be associated with this rumour.

So just tell us!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on March 31, 2008, 12:46:19 PM
I just know the man im thinking of has a lot of property dealings of which a number of high profile cases are in the armagh area....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Nimbus on March 31, 2008, 12:48:23 PM
Quote from: Candyman on March 31, 2008, 12:46:19 PM
I just know the man im thinking of has a lot of property dealings of which a number of high profile cases are in the armagh area....



So you don't know for 100% sure?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on March 31, 2008, 01:12:16 PM
Lads, be very careful here. Please stop posting details about people as clues, or hints. This is all based on unsubstantiated rumours and is the sort of thing that can lead to major problems for a board like this.

Thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 31, 2008, 01:58:11 PM
Here Here lets stick to the footy arguments lads and leave the scandal to te papers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: asitis on March 31, 2008, 02:05:58 PM
cross used to have floodlights but the brits took them when they left.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on March 31, 2008, 02:52:58 PM
Quote from: Nimbus on March 31, 2008, 12:48:23 PM
Quote from: Candyman on March 31, 2008, 12:46:19 PM
I just know the man im thinking of has a lot of property dealings of which a number of high profile cases are in the armagh area....



So you don't know for 100% sure?

Obviously I dont know its him for sure, but as I didnt first start the rumour it could be anyone of a panel of 30?!?!?!?!
As stated, I think its best left to the papers...   :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on March 31, 2008, 04:26:24 PM
Exactly.  I just don't know why we Irish have an attitude of barely concealed glee at others perceived misfortune.  There has been enough inuendo about this matter for all readers to get a picture of exactly you are talking about.  It is probably rubbish, as is most rumours about county players.  Think of the famous Oisín ones.  After that episode we should have learnt our lesson about rumours by now.  The minute you hear a rumour like that, you should see it exactly for what it is -a pathetic attempt by some begrudger to break the heart of someone they are jealous of.  If this rumour is right, we should be hoping the person in question gets back on his feet as soon as possible.  Our county players are our heroes - men who give up their time and energy to succeed wearing our jersey. When they succeed we should be happy for them.  I'm not saying the original poster was gleefully ripping asunder a man's integrity, but be sure that those who took the story and are spreading it round the country are putting their own spin on it for their own purposes.  Each county panel will have its fair share of rumours - and when they go away on tour with wives and girlfriends on tow, it totally feeds the rumour mill.  Clare hurlers suffered from this as did Derry footballers, down footballers - all around salacious stuff, wives in bed with others, women being beaten - all pure dung, but very juicy gossip.  If you hear any rumour like that, just scotch it immediately as vicious jealousy and tell the person who told you that you will say to the subject of the rumour that you heard it from them.  Then watch the colour their cowardly faces change.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Nimbus on March 31, 2008, 04:29:16 PM
Thats the end of it then.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 31, 2008, 05:36:31 PM
correct
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Mutley on March 31, 2008, 07:35:40 PM
Quote from: Seany on March 31, 2008, 04:26:24 PM
Exactly.  I just don't know why we Irish have an attitude of barely concealed glee at others perceived misfortune.  There has been enough inuendo about this matter for all readers to get a picture of exactly you are talking about.  It is probably rubbish, as is most rumours about county players.  Think of the famous Oisín ones.  After that episode we should have learnt our lesson about rumours by now.  The minute you hear a rumour like that, you should see it exactly for what it is -a pathetic attempt by some begrudger to break the heart of someone they are jealous of.  If this rumour is right, we should be hoping the person in question gets back on his feet as soon as possible.  Our county players are our heroes - men who give up their time and energy to succeed wearing our jersey. When they succeed we should be happy for them.  I'm not saying the original poster was gleefully ripping asunder a man's integrity, but be sure that those who took the story and are spreading it round the country are putting their own spin on it for their own purposes.  Each county panel will have its fair share of rumours - and when they go away on tour with wives and girlfriends on tow, it totally feeds the rumour mill.  Clare hurlers suffered from this as did Derry footballers, down footballers - all around salacious stuff, wives in bed with others, women being beaten - all pure dung, but very juicy gossip.  If you hear any rumour like that, just scotch it immediately as vicious jealousy and tell the person who told you that you will say to the subject of the rumour that you heard it from them.  Then watch the colour their cowardly faces change.   

Well said seany. Some of the clowns on this thread should be ashamed of themselves.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on March 31, 2008, 09:16:51 PM
we are here for debate not gossipin like aul grannies.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 01, 2008, 12:35:57 PM
i take it it's all systems go for Sunday lads?? Hope that rain stays away as our pitch is not to good at the minute. And wouldn't want to travel to Cross for them to tell us their pitch is waterlogged as well ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 01, 2008, 12:40:38 PM
Does the B League start tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on April 01, 2008, 01:02:51 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on April 01, 2008, 12:40:38 PM
Does the B League start tomorrow night?

The mid armagh B league starts tomorrow night anyway.  Although I'd say a lot of games will be called off because of poor conditions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 01, 2008, 02:14:20 PM
I just read the Irish News and noticed Mr J McKee is ref for our game. Thats the 1st time he has done a Clans senior game from that controversial game with Dromintee (3-4 years ago)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 01, 2008, 10:09:40 PM
Round 2 of the Boyle Transport All County Leagues, scheduled for Sunday 13 th April , will now take place on Saturday 12 th April at 6.00pm .  This decision has been reached by the CCC to ensure no clash with the Armagh v Dublin? fixture on 13 th April at Crossmaglen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on April 01, 2008, 10:31:53 PM
Madden b's vs Tullysaran b's is now in Rapparees Park, Madden at 6.30pm!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on April 02, 2008, 02:58:47 PM
what is the story with the orchardcounty.com website,  went to check it out there and its suspended. anybody know the craic ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on April 02, 2008, 06:08:18 PM
Quote from: armaghtrue on April 02, 2008, 02:58:47 PM
what is the story with the orchardcounty.com website,  went to check it out there and its suspended. anybody know the craic ??? ??? ???

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=7327.0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on April 02, 2008, 07:17:01 PM
cheers donagh ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: I SHOT JR on April 03, 2008, 08:28:12 AM
What date are Armagh due to play the first round of the Ulster Championship against Cavan/Antrim this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 03, 2008, 09:19:21 AM
Quote from: I SHOT JR on April 03, 2008, 08:28:12 AM
What date are Armagh due to play the first round of the Ulster Championship against Cavan/Antrim this year?

Armaghs championship game between Either Antrim or Cavan is fixed for the 15th June,

If its Cavan it will be in Breffni

If its Antrim i heard it may be in Crossmaglen, but not too sure whether this is true or not

If there is a replay it will be on the 22nd of June
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 03, 2008, 10:17:52 AM

It has to be a home tie for either armagh or the preliminary round winner. therefore if its armagh's home tie it'll be clones or if its the prelim winner it'll be brefni or casement
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 03, 2008, 10:51:38 AM
Quote from: Uladh on April 03, 2008, 10:17:52 AM

It has to be a home tie for either armagh or the preliminary round winner. therefore if its armagh's home tie it'll be clones or if its the prelim winner it'll be brefni or casement

Antrim and Cavan are playing in the prelimanary round,

So as i said If its Cavan it will be in Breffini Park on the 15th June

And if its Antrim, There is a possibility it will be in Cross, coz there is hurling or something else on in Casement
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 03, 2008, 11:55:03 AM
As i know little about the subject at hand i am greatful for the knowledge Onion bag has provided he obviously knows his stuff. If it was left to me to get the information out i would probably have it fixed for Corrinshego's pitch or something. That would be some craic :D :D. Anyone know what that opitch is like anyway?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 03, 2008, 12:07:08 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 03, 2008, 11:55:03 AM
As i know little about the subject at hand i am greatful for the knowledge Onion bag has provided he obviously knows his stuff. If it was left to me to get the information out i would probably have it fixed for Corrinshego's pitch or something. That would be some craic :D :D. Anyone know what that opitch is like anyway?

Its like f**k all
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 03, 2008, 12:15:29 PM
classic  :D  :D :D reply lad i am in stitches
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: I SHOT JR on April 03, 2008, 12:50:09 PM
Armaghs championship game between Either Antrim or Cavan is fixed for the 15th June,

If its Cavan it will be in Breffni

If its Antrim i heard it may be in Crossmaglen, but not too sure whether this is true or not

If there is a replay it will be on the 22nd of June

Cheers Onion Bag, I'm trying to book some flights home, just checking if I'll be there for the championship match.  I hear BBC are showing them all anyway so I may have to settle for watching it on sky digital
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on April 03, 2008, 01:25:55 PM
JR

I'm afraid the BBC are not showing all the games.  Provisionnally they are showing only those Ulster games that RTE are, but that has not been finalised internally.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 03, 2008, 01:52:03 PM

Even if there's a hurling game in casement, which would probably be moved anyway, why would antrim county board decide to hold their home tie in the opposition's county? who would they not opt for newry or omagh? while we're at it, the GAA wouldn't allow any ulster championship match to be played in cross because it wouldn't hold the crowd.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 03, 2008, 01:57:40 PM
Not 100% sure, i just heard that if Antrim Beat Cavan it will be a home Tie for Armagh, and at a county board meeting, they had passed a motion or were trying to pass a motion to have it in Cross, because of the lack of Antrim Support.

And if Cavan beat Antrim it will be a home tie for Cavan and will be palyed in Breffini
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 03, 2008, 02:16:44 PM
Are the Clanns not entering the all county B League?  From what I've heard there are only 5 teams left in it (with one still to confirm their participation) and Clanns aint one of them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 03, 2008, 03:33:52 PM
wouldn't be 100% sure benny but i think it was worthwhile last year but there is a new group of managers at the helm this year so maybe they have decided not to.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 03, 2008, 04:17:27 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 03, 2008, 02:16:44 PM
Are the Clanns not entering the all county B League?  From what I've heard there are only 5 teams left in it (with one still to confirm their participation) and Clanns aint one of them.

Just spoke to one of the guys there and he said the clans wanted to enter it. I told him to get the finger out and register for it ASAP
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on April 03, 2008, 05:56:38 PM
QuoteIf its Antrim i heard it may be in Crossmaglen, but not too sure whether this is true or not

While we may have home advantage, I doubt if Cross would get the nod for capacity reasons, the likes of Newry might be used.

Quote
If there is a replay it will be on the 22nd of June

if we can't beat the pick of Cavan and Antrim then I wouldn't bother coming home.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 03, 2008, 07:00:43 PM
All County B league isn't going to be happening by the looks of it. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 04, 2008, 10:06:09 AM
Trying to get a photo(online) of the famous Pat Campbell catch v Rosc in the 1953 All Ireland semi, cant get it by googling, anyone help?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on April 04, 2008, 10:45:25 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 03, 2008, 07:00:43 PM
All County B league isn't going to be happening by the looks of it. 

Why?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 04, 2008, 10:59:15 AM
I see P.H is back between the sticks..

Any words if the county players are allowed to play for their clubs on Sunday??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 04, 2008, 11:10:15 AM

http://www.gaa.ie/plugins/newsfeed.cgi?rm=content&plugin_data_id=22470
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 04, 2008, 02:05:51 PM
Quote from: Uladh on April 04, 2008, 11:10:15 AM

http://www.gaa.ie/plugins/newsfeed.cgi?rm=content&plugin_data_id=22470

they may stock up on the steaks ;) :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 04, 2008, 09:40:11 PM
talk about stating the obvious. it is pretty well known that would be the case.

anyway, all set for the start of another tilt at promotion/relegation/trying to beat cross or whatever your aims are this season?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on April 06, 2008, 09:49:33 AM
has anyone heard if philip loughran transfer to dromintee went thru???

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 06, 2008, 01:11:45 PM
what are you on about?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on April 06, 2008, 04:16:59 PM
anyone hear any club results from today?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 06, 2008, 05:03:01 PM
was at tones anportmor 2day.tones won handy around 2-13 to 0-7 i make it.anportmor a bad lot.tones full forward line very dangerous with john toal and connor greene both doing alot of damage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CelticWater on April 06, 2008, 05:07:14 PM
Culloville beat Killeavy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 06, 2008, 05:10:55 PM
Newtown beat the 'bridge by 2 points and they were down to 14 men.
Disappointing start.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 06, 2008, 05:52:52 PM
Ballyhegan v Annaghmore

This past Sunday saw Annaghmore open their division three campaign away to local rivals Ballyhegan.  In the first league game between the sides in many years, it was the away side that started the brighter but despite 5 minutes of constant pressure they could not make their early domination count and 6 shots dropped into the keepers arms were all they had to show from the opening exchanges.  As a result it was Ballyhegan who opened the scoring as the home side began to settle but there lead was short lived as Matthew McNiece notched his first score of the day from play to open the away team's account before Shane Smyth put Annaghmore into a deserved lead after 15 minutes.  It was Ballyhegan who then began to dominate and only a fine save from Martin Willis denied them a first goal. They did get the next two scores during a 5 minute purple patch, the second of which was a free from their top scorer Paddy McKeever.  Matthew McNiece levelled the game after 20 minutes before Paddy McKeever's second free of the day put the home side back in front 5 minutes before half time.  As the half time whistle approached Annaghmore began to insert their authority again and Oisin MacIomhar's goal ensured they lead at the break by 1-3 to 0-4.

The second half started slowly as the snow began to fall in North Armagh and it was the home team who adjusted the better to the fluctuating conditions as Paddy McKeever raced through the Annaghmore defence to score the games second goal.  The goal seemed to inspire the home team and from the ensuing kick out they were able to score again to open up a two-point lead.  As the snow continued to fall the game again slowed but this time it was Annaghmore who responded better as points first from Michael McQuade and then two frees from Shane Smyth put them back into the lead.  As time began to expire it seemed that a Paddy McKeever free had salvaged a draw for Ballyhegan but a John McCormack 14 yard free deep into injury time gave Annaghmore a much deserved away win on a final score line of 1-7 to 1-6.

Annaghmore Scorers

O MacIomhair 1-0, S Smyth 0-3 (2 frees), M McNiece 0-2, M McQuade 0-1 J McCormack 0-1 (1 free)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on April 06, 2008, 06:10:08 PM
Good win for Cullyhanna versus Harps by thirtenn points to seven . Excellent performances from Malachy Mackin and Barry Mc Conville in midfield and Liam O Hare and Aidan Mackin in attack. Harps very disappointing though even with all their county men apart from Peader Toal play :D :D :Ding. Ciaran Mc Keever came on as a sub for St Pats early in the game and made a big difference. Goods start for the pats. Heard that Pearse Ogs Beat Mullaghbawn and drominte beat maghery.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on April 06, 2008, 06:31:29 PM
madden beat lissummon today by 2points in a game which could have went either way!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 06, 2008, 06:46:29 PM
QuoteGood win for Cullyhanna versus Harps by thirtenn points to seven . Excellent performances from Malachy Mackin and Barry Mc Conville in midfield and Liam O Hare and Aidan Mackin in attack. Harps very disappointing though even with all their county men apart from Peader Toal play Cheesy Cheesy :Ding. Ciaran Mc Keever came on as a sub for St Pats early in the game and made a big difference. Goods start for the pats.

Unfortunately I couldn't make the game meself but what a great result and sounds like a good performance. Brilliant start to the season beating the county finalists away from home.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: McLovin on April 06, 2008, 06:49:13 PM
Cruppen and the Nab drew 0 - 11 to 1-8. We stole a draw with a late Paul Keenan goal and free. We played none but never gave up. The nab handy enough, very fit for early season.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 06, 2008, 07:17:17 PM
Cross were short a few regulars for their visit to lurgan and were 5 nil down after 15 mins but a goal from Oisin got them going and they eventually went ahead after half time. However Clans fought back and held a one point lead going into injury time when substitute  Cathal Short scored a goal to snatch victory for Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on April 06, 2008, 08:35:23 PM
corn - philip loughran is living in newry area now and heard from a reliable source that cathal o'rourke has been onto him regarding transferring to dromintee

maybe uladh could shed some light on this
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on April 06, 2008, 08:42:53 PM
cruppen travelled to windswept ballymacnab today for the opening fixture of the new season and came away somewhat fortunate with a point!

ballymacnab well organised team, full of running and working for each other had been winning by 5 points at one stage and going into injury time was leading by 4 - referree played 7 minutes injury time added on to cover a number of second half injuries.

one thing for sure on their performance today alot of teams will find it hard coming away from ballymacnab with any points, on saying that i dont think we could play as bad as we did again! we i certainly hope not!

heard granemore beat whitecross by 4 points!

any other results???

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 06, 2008, 08:44:59 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on April 06, 2008, 06:10:08 PM
Harps very disappointing though even with all their county men apart from Peader Toal play :D :D :Ding.
Whats the smilies about ??? ???

Very impressed with Cullyhanna, very mobile team and will have little difficulty keeping their premier status, but their sights are probably set a lot higher than that, they will be a handful for every team in the division.  For a team with a bit of a bad name they were very disciplined, even saw the coach reprimanding the subs for some mouthing.

A game the Harps will want to forget in a hurry, Phiily McKinney was our best player by a long stretch, with some sporadic good play from Ebby Toal & Nippy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 06, 2008, 08:54:54 PM
Armagh ACL Results

Division One
Dromintee 0-10; Maghery 1-3
Pearse Og 2-10; Mullaghbawn 1-5
Culloville 1-10; Killeavey 0-10
Clan na Gael 0-11; Crossmaglen 2-8
Harps 0-7; St Patrick's 0-12

Division Two
Silverbridge 0-6; St Michael's 0-8
Tir na nÓg 2-13; Sarsfields 2-8
Whitecross 1-7; Granemore 1-10
Ballymacnab 0-11; Carrickcruppen 1-8
Clann Eireann v Keady (Off)
An Port Mor 0-8; Wolfe Tones 2-15

Division Three
Ballyhegan 1-6; Annaghmore 1-7
Belleek 3-11; Clonmore 1-7
Collegeland 0-11; Grange 1-7
Lissummon 1-4; Madden 0-9
St Paul's 1-8; St Peter's 0-9
Tullysaran v Crossmaglen II (Off)

Division Four
Derrynoose 0-14; Mullaghbrack 0-4
Dorsey Emmett's 2-7; Corrinshego 2-3
Eire Og 1-7; Shane O'Neill's 1-10
Forkhill 2-15; Phelim Brady's 0-3
Middletown 2-10; O'Hanlon's 0-5
Bye – Clady


From Aertel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 06, 2008, 09:00:39 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 06, 2008, 08:44:59 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on April 06, 2008, 06:10:08 PM
Harps very disappointing though even with all their county men apart from Peader Toal play :D :D :Ding.
Whats the smilies about ??? ???

I wouldn't worry about it benny, they'll get a beat a few times and he won't be around.

QuoteDivision Two
Silverbridge 0-6; St Michael's 0-8
Tir na nÓg 2-13; Sarsfields 2-8
Whitecross 1-7; Granemore 1-10
Ballymacnab 0-11; Carrickcruppen 1-8
Clann Eireann v Keady (Off)
An Port Mor 0-8; Wolfe Tones 2-15

Great to see Whitecross and Cruppen dropping points already (nothing personal).  Surprised at the extent of the Tones victory, is An Port Mor that poor or have Tones improved drastically from last year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 06, 2008, 09:09:39 PM
QuoteFor a team with a bit of a bad name they were very disciplined, even saw the coach reprimanding the subs for some mouthing.

As we were for the whole of 2007 as well Benny. Raging I missed the match now - just hope today isn't as good as it gets but would be reasonably confident we can do well this year although staying up and winning the intermediate championship are the 2 main goals.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on April 06, 2008, 09:10:55 PM
how did your own game go pints?

who was sent off for newtown?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on April 06, 2008, 09:12:34 PM
was at the tir na nog sarsfields game today. handy win for portadown, looked strong with score line not telling the full story.  sarsfields will have alot to do to stay up, game was over early on. was thinkin at half time that there acctually was a good ref in armagh at halftime ( never seen him b4) but he tried to even it up in the second half, hense the score line. however strong win for portadown, if they up it a gear they in with a chance.. brian mallon looking good and strong, good news for armagh, looked fit..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 06, 2008, 09:16:07 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on April 06, 2008, 09:10:55 PM
how did your own game go pints?

who was sent off for newtown?

I wasn't it at DS, don't know who was sent off.  I heard Newtown weren't exactly impressive and we were poor enough, I think the whether had a lot of do with that though.  We'd the wind in the second half and didn't do a lot with it which I think was our downfall. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 06, 2008, 09:18:55 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 06, 2008, 09:09:39 PM
QuoteFor a team with a bit of a bad name they were very disciplined, even saw the coach reprimanding the subs for some mouthing.

As we were for the whole of 2007 as well Benny. Raging I missed the match now - just hope today isn't as good as it gets but would be reasonably confident we can do well this year although staying up and winning the intermediate championship are the 2 main goals.


Yous weren't too disciplined when yous were taunting a man lying on the ground with a broken leg and dislocated ankle.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on April 06, 2008, 09:21:06 PM
we went in two points down at half time playing against the wind and to be honest thought it was a formality!

was very impressed with ballymacnab now in fairness to them! dominic clarke is over them this year and he had them well drilled!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 06, 2008, 09:26:08 PM
QuoteYous weren't too disciplined when yous were taunting a man lying on the ground with a broken leg and dislocated ankle.

Unsubstantiated nonsense. I was at that game and saw or heard no taunting at all and I'm sure you were no closer to the pitch than I was.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 06, 2008, 09:31:22 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 06, 2008, 09:26:08 PM
QuoteYous weren't too disciplined when yous were taunting a man lying on the ground with a broken leg and dislocated ankle.

Unsubstantiated nonsense. I was at that game and saw or heard no taunting at all and I'm sure you were no closer to the pitch than I was.

No, as I said at the time I heard nothing but people closer to the pitch than us did.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on April 06, 2008, 09:53:55 PM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 06, 2008, 09:59:36 PM
Quote from: Shortso79 on April 06, 2008, 09:53:55 PM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 06, 2008, 10:08:18 PM
Quote from: Shortso79 on April 06, 2008, 09:53:55 PM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 06, 2008, 10:49:27 PM
Dromintee had a quite comfortable victory today, Maghery were pretty bad and only a fortunate goal kept them in close contact.

Shite match with the only highlight being the referee shouting when trying to tick one of our players:

'Hey, number 12, turn round.'
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 07, 2008, 09:02:59 AM
A rule I wasn't aware of until yesterday - Ciaran McKeever wasn't allowed to startthe game for Cullyhanna becuase he had played the full game the night before v Meath, but was allowed to come on as a sub.  Unsuprisingly, he did after about 5 mins.  Strange rule as is can be easily sidestepped ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 07, 2008, 09:06:32 AM
A good win for the Ogs yesterday against Mullaghbawn 2-10 to 1-5. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 07, 2008, 09:21:38 AM
Clans beat by 3pts. Winning by a point in injury time when C Short got the ball and seen our keeper of his line and lobbed him with ease to put the Cross 2pts up then from the kickout they scored a point to wrap it up. Clans deserved at the very least a draw even the Cross men will agree to that but you don't always get what you deserve. Pleased with the perfermance (not the result) and hopefully can build on it for next sat night when we have a tough game away to St Pats.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 07, 2008, 09:39:32 AM
illdecide, was that game down in Lurgan?  That must have been strange having to play Cross at home :P  What sort of team had our boys out, was it close to full strength?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 07, 2008, 09:56:19 AM
El Cuervo were you's at full strength yesterday, did JP feature????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 07, 2008, 10:07:36 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 07, 2008, 09:39:32 AM
illdecide, was that game down in Lurgan?  That must have been strange having to play Cross at home :P  What sort of team had our boys out, was it close to full strength?

BC in fairness both teams were far from their strongest i think both were down about 5-6 regulars each but an entertaining game nonetheless. Yes it was in Davitt Park which was very soft and just about playable...(Hearty and the 2 Kernans, Murtagh suspended and John Mac missing, there may well have been 1 or 2 more but that was the names i noticed missing)

IMO Bumpy was MOM.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 07, 2008, 10:08:35 AM
was at Davitt yes Broken, and the Cross were missing about 6 or 7 to be honest. Our lads were missing about 4 or 5 so there was a lot of young lads playing for both sides and it has to be said they all did pretty well.I t was a decent game for the start of the season and happy to inform there was no dirt in it whatsoever. Even Donaldson behaved himself  ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 07, 2008, 11:46:59 AM
I was at the game in Lurgan yesterday as I always said I was going to go. I dont for one minute buy into the fact that Cross were understrength. For one thing the Cross men on this very site consistently boast about how many players they have on county u21 and minor squads and how many they should have on the county senior panel so therfore whatever 15 they play on a sunday cannot be siad to be 'weak' in any way. The 2 Kernans, mac Namee and Mutagh were noticable absentees - agreed, but Mc Conville, Bellew, bus face Donaldson, Tony Mac etc were there and played the whole game. I didnt notice too many significant players missing from the Clans team - maybe the players your referring to are merely squad members however I heard on the 'hill' that there were 2 weddings on Sat that involved around 12 of the Clans team which no doubt is not ideal preparation for a game on a Sunday. On the Whole I thought the Clans shaded it slightly but were hit by a sucker punch in injury time which Short took really well. A good game of football and hopefully a sign of things to come in the summer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 07, 2008, 11:48:48 AM
So the Cross team would not be stronger with those absentee's?  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 07, 2008, 12:23:28 PM
Quote from: Candyman on April 07, 2008, 09:56:19 AM
El Cuervo were you's at full strength yesterday, did JP feature????

we had a few absent yday due to injuries, the likes of Andy, locky, toner etc.  JP is still with the physio at the county, should be making an appearance shortly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 07, 2008, 12:29:24 PM
Where will Toner play, FB???
Didnt know he was pushing for a place, he didnt play much last year did he....
Here what about the Ballycrummy 5 GFC, have they played this season yet???  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 07, 2008, 12:30:34 PM
Listen goat - half those absentees are done, Tony Mac played yestersay and wouldnt have had the ball three times, so his bro aint far behind him. Bellew started the game and I honestly had to be told he played after the game, I actually argued with a guy that he wasnt playing, so forget about these big household 'names', the younger Cross players who played are the ones who are gonna be playing regularly before long and they are all involved in county teams so in my opinion they make cross a better team due to their youth and egerness. Im not for one minute naive enough to think those players would not make an impact but their day is almost over and the cross team that took the field yesterday was by no means 'weak' - thats my only point.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 07, 2008, 12:38:59 PM
Quote from: Candyman on April 07, 2008, 12:29:24 PM
Where will Toner play, FB???
Didnt know he was pushing for a place, he didnt play much last year did he....
Here what about the Ballycrummy 5 GFC, have they played this season yet??? :L:L:L

Toner only came back half way through the season last year after that spell in America.  He'll be pushing for a place surely when he gets back to full fitness, but he's been out injured for the past few months.

The founding member of the Ballycrummy 5 is now living in London, as is one of the committee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 07, 2008, 01:00:16 PM
Aye i know he is.... rumour has it they make the jerseys a little bigger over there so he moved over to the big smoke to ply his trade where a GAA top didnt look like a bikini on him!!! ;)
(only jokin bigson ;))  :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 07, 2008, 02:15:47 PM
I see someone is keeping the BC 5's president upto date by text anyway... ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 07, 2008, 02:25:07 PM
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE FIXTURES

Saturday 6th April

Division One (6.00)
Maghery v Pearse Og (Off)
Killeavey v Harps (K McNeice)
Crossmaglen v Culloville (E Nugent)
St Patrick's v Clan Na Gael (T O'Hare)

Division Two (6.00)
Wolfe Tones v Ballymacnab (Off)
Sarsfields v Whitecross (H McCloy)
Keady v Silverbridge (J Burns)
Granemore v An Port Mor (D McDonnell)
St Michael's v Tir na nÓg (G Devlin)
Carrickcruppen v Clann Eireann (P Boylan)

Division Three (6.00)
Crossmaglen II v Lissummon (P Rath)
Clonmore v Collegeland (S Murray)
St Peter's v Ballyhegan (K Gallogly)
Grange v Tullysaran (O Hearty)
Annaghmore v Belleek (D McConville)
Madden v St Paul's (J Slevin)

Division Four (6.00)
Phelim Brady's v Middletown (S McKinley)
Shane O'Neill's v Forkhill (G Smith)
Mullaghbrack v Dorsey Emmett's (N Martin)
Clady v Derrynoose (R Quigley)
Bye – O'Hanlon's


Sunday 13 April
ACL - Division One (6.00)
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn (J McKee)

ACL - Division Four (6.00)
Corrinshego v Eire Og (J Lynch)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TG4 on April 07, 2008, 02:49:39 PM
will the crossmaglen game go ahead at the weekend or where will it be played? its very unlikely that the county board will allow a league game to be played in the main cross pitch on saturday evening considering the debacle against the dubs last week and with them due in town again on sunday they will not want to be sent home again without playing  :D any cross posters know what is going to happen in this regard?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 07, 2008, 03:50:36 PM
I see from the fixtures Clans have to play 2 games at the one time on sat night. Away to St Pats and away to Carrickcruppin. Thats not fair ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 07, 2008, 04:28:11 PM
Quote from: Candyman on April 07, 2008, 02:15:47 PM
I see someone is keeping the BC 5's president upto date by text anyway... ;)

I was on the phone to him.  He's on the beer
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 07, 2008, 05:52:20 PM
pog i think that the tones where in a false position last year.  the manager was a complte clown who no one could take seriously and a number of players had issues with him.  miceal magill has come in this year and the players seem to have respect for him.  the team last year was very young and inexperienced and i think magills experience will help especially in a defensive capacity as they shipped alot of goals last year.  think that they will finish midtable or upwards this season, though anportmor whereterrible and cant see much hope for them..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 07, 2008, 06:27:56 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 07, 2008, 12:30:34 PM
Listen goat - half those absentees are done, Tony Mac played yestersay and wouldnt have had the ball three times, so his bro aint far behind him. Bellew started the game and I honestly had to be told he played after the game, I actually argued with a guy that he wasnt playing, so forget about these big household 'names', the younger Cross players who played are the ones who are gonna be playing regularly before long and they are all involved in county teams so in my opinion they make cross a better team due to their youth and egerness. Im not for one minute naive enough to think those players would not make an impact but their day is almost over and the cross team that took the field yesterday was by no means 'weak' - thats my only point.

shows how much you know when you dont even recognise county men on the field. if you didnt notice bellew then the clans mustn't have been doing too much up front. how you can say any team minus players that start for the county team are not weakened is beyond belief. wise up!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 07, 2008, 06:54:58 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 07, 2008, 05:52:20 PM
pog i think that the tones where in a false position last year.  the manager was a complte clown who no one could take seriously and a number of players had issues with him.  miceal magill has come in this year and the players seem to have respect for him.  the team last year was very young and inexperienced and i think magills experience will help especially in a defensive capacity as they shipped alot of goals last year.  think that they will finish midtable or upwards this season, though anportmor whereterrible and cant see much hope for them..

listen here charlie! Last year, having missed our first game with yourselves you convinced on here one day a couple of weeks before our second game that yous were a young and inexperienced side (fair enough) with little or no physcial presence!  Now imagine my surprise when I went to our game and actually found yous were one of the most physcial (verging on dirty!) sides in the division! I said it to you after the game and you never answered me.  Did you get rid of any of those big hallions with little or no football in them? I'm still waiting to see Moriarty kick players in a county game the way he kicked 'bridge lads that day.

Out of interest, what would the average age of the side be?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on April 07, 2008, 11:10:30 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 06, 2008, 09:59:36 PM
Quote from: Shortso79 on April 06, 2008, 09:53:55 PM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on April 07, 2008, 11:42:00 PM
illdecide its clann eireann that are playing cruppen this saturday evening and not clan na gael
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 08, 2008, 09:02:47 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on April 07, 2008, 11:42:00 PM
illdecide its clann eireann that are playing cruppen this saturday evening and not clan na gael

I sort of gathered that. Just messing ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 08, 2008, 09:42:55 AM
Any predictions from these fixtures:

Maghery v Pearse Og             Maghery to just shade it. I'd go for Maghery simply because the Ogs won't have their Co men available who are a massive loss to them.
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn       Dromintee
Killeavey v Harps                    Harps  ;)
Crossmaglen v Culloville           Cross
St Patrick's v Clan Na Gael       Clans...  County men run the show for Dorsey last sunday but arent available Sat evening (McKeever, Mackin, O'Hare)


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 08, 2008, 09:51:17 AM
Any word on the referee's for the games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on April 08, 2008, 10:01:17 AM
division 2

Wolfe Tones v Ballymacnab - tough call ballymacnab impressed against us last sunday and wolfe tones hammered an port mor - will go for tones simply on home advantage.

Sarsfields v Whitecross - both teams lost last sunday would have to fancy whitecross on this one.

Keady v Silverbridge - silverbridge will be hoping to kickstart their season and will want to get off to a winning start after last sunday's defeat - silverbridge by 2

Granemore v An Port Mor - granemore should have too much in the tank and should win this one!

St Michael's v Tir na nÓg - st. michael's will be buoyed after beating the bridge last time out, brian mallon will be a massive loss to tir na nog - home win

Carrickcruppen v Clann Eireann - we came away from ballymacnab having robbed a point in injury time, this is clann eireann first game of season - cruppen by 4

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 08, 2008, 10:12:54 AM
ballymacnab will beat the tones
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on April 08, 2008, 11:46:30 AM
Ogs
Dromintee
Draw
Cross
Clans


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 08, 2008, 11:50:53 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 08, 2008, 10:12:54 AM
ballymacnab will beat the tones

I'll decide who beats who ;)

Just to be awkward I'll go for the draw

Maghery
Draw
Killeavey (Sorry Harps guys)
Cross
Clans
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on April 08, 2008, 11:54:18 AM
Maghery v Pearse Og             Maghery
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn       Dromintee
Killeavey v Harps                    Harps 
Crossmaglen v Culloville           Cross
St Patrick's v Clan Na Gael       Cullyhanna
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 08, 2008, 12:08:41 PM

Very difficult to assess teams this early in the season, especially without seeing them. Going on hunches, guesses, stories and reports it looks as though
clans might be in decent shape with DM in full tow.
cullyhanna will be very competitive in the division but as has been said, the county players are probably vital to them.
Maghery seem to be poorly organised and well back.
Mullaghbawn will be the usual high energy side but lack quality.
Dromintee - hard to know. beat a poor maghery without the 2 o'rourkes but could be running out of resources.
Ogs seem to be moving well and should progress from last year.
Harps look to have taken a few more steps back but this weekend will say more about them
killeavy will be fit and organised but will lack a scoring threat in this division without their 2 county men (stanfield should be available sat?)
Cross - assuming they'll not be training their starters much at this stage but have more than adequate cover.
Cullaville - Alan o'neill's retiremant will have hit them but will be aggressive and direct as usual

Cross to win the league ahead of clans and ogs
Killeavy, cullaville and harps to battle for survival

This weekend -

Maghery v Pearse Og            Ogs
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn      Draw
Killeavey v Harps                   Killeavy
Crossmaglen v Culloville          Cross
St Patrick's v Clan Na Gael      Clans
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 08, 2008, 12:20:56 PM
Quote from: Uladh on April 08, 2008, 12:08:41 PM

Very difficult to assess teams this early in the season, especially without seeing them. Going on hunches, guesses, stories and reports it looks as though
clans might be in decent shape with DM in full tow.
cullyhanna will be very competitive in the division but as has been said, the county players are probably vital to them.
Maghery seem to be poorly organised and well back.
Mullaghbawn will be the usual high energy side but lack quality.
Dromintee - hard to know. beat a poor maghery without the 2 o'rourkes but could be running out of resources.
Ogs seem to be moving well and should progress from last year.
Harps look to have taken a few more steps back but this weekend will say more about them
killeavy will be fit and organised but will lack a scoring threat in this division without their 2 county men (stanfield should be available sat?)
Cross - assuming they'll not be training their starters much at this stage but have more than adequate cover.
Cullaville - Alan o'neill's retiremant will have hit them but will be aggressive and direct as usual

Cross to win the league ahead of clans and ogs
Killeavy, cullaville and harps to battle for survival
This weekend -

Maghery v Pearse Og            Ogs
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn      Draw
Killeavey v Harps                   Killeavy
Crossmaglen v Culloville          Cross
St Patrick's v Clan Na Gael      Clans

We'll see....  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 08, 2008, 12:40:36 PM
If Ogs can not beat that Maghery side, they may be in trouble themselves.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 08, 2008, 12:44:12 PM
Are maghery really that bad this year??? I may have to change my predictions then....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 08, 2008, 02:01:28 PM
From all reports it looks as though maghery are returning to the baron days, which is a shame because they have a young enough squad at their disposal
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 08, 2008, 03:56:34 PM
QuoteAny word on the referee's for the games?

Referees have now been added to ACL fixtures,  Full Back.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on April 08, 2008, 04:18:06 PM
Does anyone think An Portmor have any chance of staying up? I havent really seen the quality of the other division 2 teams (except sarsfields last year). I remember us beating granemore nad ballymacnab 2 or 3 seasons ago but they seem to have improved. we are a team that are not good enough for division 2 and too good for division 3 :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 08, 2008, 05:12:32 PM
If I remember rightly last year I sadi Maghery could be a big force in a couple of years time, they have a serious abundance of young talent and looked like a progressive team last season.  I cant see how they have become brutal overnight, and wouldn't be making judgements on the first game of the season.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 08, 2008, 06:15:53 PM
pog this the age of the team v anportmor
gk=20
full backs=17,23,22
halfbacks=22,30,21
mf=24,29
half forwards=30,21,17
fullf forwards=22,28,27

Average age of 23
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 08, 2008, 06:22:26 PM

Wolfe Tones v Ballymacnab - nab surprised me against cruppen though think they will be vulnerable on road. tones by 3

Sarsfields v Whitecross - shocked whitecross lost v granemore.  they will not want want to fall behind early in race 4 promotion.whitecross by 1

Keady v Silverbridge - silverbridge will need to win these types of games if are to make a serious promotion push. bridge by 4

Granemore v An Port Mor - granemore won well on the opening round.  not impressed by anportmor division 3 beckons granemore by 8

St Michael's v Tir na nÓg - st. michael's will want to continue where they left off at silverbrdge.  tirnanog will miss mallon pulling the strings. st.michaels by 2

Carrickcruppen v Clann Eireann - cruppen drawing last week could be the best thing that happened them.  Expect them to bounce back by 4 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 09, 2008, 10:36:37 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 08, 2008, 02:01:28 PM
From all reports it looks as though maghery are returning to the baron days, which is a shame because they have a young enough squad at their disposal

What are these reports based on? Just the defeat to dromintee? In fairness to them they were always underdogs travelling to dromintee and dromintee put in a very good hard-working performance. In the end Maghery only lost by 5. So I don't think you can write them off on the basis of this one game.

If people wrote dromintee off on the back of an early league game we'd be predicted for relegation every year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 09, 2008, 02:04:13 PM
I agree wit you there lads but i was just posting what i heard about the set up the year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 09, 2008, 03:53:36 PM
Lads i know it's been on before but i can't find the correct page. What are the dtaes for the u-21 championship????????????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on April 09, 2008, 04:28:44 PM
wed 29th april and every wed after that if your successful!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 09, 2008, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on April 09, 2008, 04:28:44 PM
wed 29th april and every wed after that if your successful!

thats wed 30th april ds
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 09, 2008, 07:35:11 PM
That's going to be some craic with b fixtures in the north anyway as they plat b games on a wed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 10, 2008, 12:13:38 PM
Harps v Clanns Feile semi final is in Clonmore on sunday night at 6pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 10, 2008, 01:04:05 PM
Is that Clann Eireann or Clan na Gael?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 10, 2008, 01:55:49 PM
Our fella's.    Clann Eireann play Killeavy in the other semi.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 10, 2008, 02:21:32 PM
What were the controversial comments made in the media that caused the orchard county site to be suspended?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 10, 2008, 03:34:57 PM
Read back about three pages my son and there is a link for a separate thread which highlights it all. The mods will not take lightly to any such abuse on this thread as clamp downs are now on. Apparently. Freedom of speech has ended.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 10, 2008, 03:38:48 PM
I forgot to say there is a book burning next weekend, all books or writings criticising county players are to be burned as part of a mass exodus against the opposition  :D :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ACFfoxy on April 10, 2008, 04:03:05 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 06, 2008, 09:59:36 PM
Quote from: Shortso79 on April 06, 2008, 09:53:55 PM
New Website :

http://www.armaghcountyfans.com/

Looks decent.  Are you foxy shorts?


Hi, im Foxy from armaghcountyfans.com

its free to register on it of course and i intend to go down the same route as Orchard County and supply a discussion forum along with the latest news, fixtures and results etc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on April 11, 2008, 08:29:42 AM
iv had a wee look at that new site and it seems very similar to the old one, it was always handy for up to date results and fixtures etc... hopefully that will continue!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ACFfoxy on April 11, 2008, 09:41:13 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on April 11, 2008, 08:29:42 AM
iv had a wee look at that new site and it seems very similar to the old one, it was always handy for up to date results and fixtures etc... hopefully that will continue!

yeah, i've tried to keep the look similar, its a winning formula ;)  News, fixtures and results etc will be kept up to date and thanks to the Lurgan Mail and Portadown Times for plugging the site in this weeks edition.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on April 11, 2008, 10:07:24 AM
foxy it would probably do you no harm if you contacted the cross examiner and the newry democrat im sure they would give you a mention too!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ACFfoxy on April 11, 2008, 10:43:09 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on April 11, 2008, 10:07:24 AM
foxy it would probably do you no harm if you contacted the cross examiner and the newry democrat im sure they would give you a mention too!



Cheers mate, i'll give them a quick email now, if you know of any other decent local papers in south armagh please post them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 11, 2008, 11:32:04 AM
a few questions lads, as i am ignorant in many ways to computers. Are there any perks for running these websites? Do the moderators get commission for amount of users or are they sponsored and the guy in charge gets a few bob?? The reason i ask is because if there is no pay involved then these guys should receive even more press because they do carry out a crucial service and are probably as effective to us as the county board with regardes fixtures time and dates of games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 11, 2008, 01:29:14 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 11, 2008, 11:32:04 AM
probably as effective to us as the county board with regardes fixtures time and dates of games.

Orchardcounty was far more effective than the county board for results & fixtures
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ACFfoxy on April 11, 2008, 01:31:43 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 11, 2008, 11:32:04 AM
a few questions lads, as i am ignorant in many ways to computers. Are there any perks for running these websites? Do the moderators get commission for amount of users or are they sponsored and the guy in charge gets a few bob?? The reason i ask is because if there is no pay involved then these guys should receive even more press because they do carry out a crucial service and are probably as effective to us as the county board with regardes fixtures time and dates of games.

I'm the Admin of ArmaghCountyFans.com and i've been admin on a couple of other sites through the years so i can answer your questions for you.

Q. Do I or Moderators Get Paid?
A. No, not one penny, maybe in much larger commercial sites Companys will pay a monthly fee to advertise there product or company.  I've ran sites with 20,000 - 50,000 members and never had this offered to me so its rare.  But please note, its not just admin's and mod's that make a site, as a forum is nothing without its members and it was very much the members who supplyed a lot of info on sites like OrchardCounty

Q. Why do you have ad's on your site and so does GAAboard?
A. Each time someone who clicks an ad it usually makes the site around 1p - 50p per click with the lowest price the usual amount, money made from ad's pays towards bandwidth and in my case towards the licence to run the forum, this board uses a licence free forum.  You can bet your bottom doller that ad's rarely pay enough to cover these costs but they help towards the financial burden of running a site and rest comes from the admin's pocket. 

In a nutshell there is no perks in running a forum, i love my county and have followed then to every corner of Ireland and in fact to London  ;D and when Orchard County closed I felt our County deserved a forum to voice our opinions on the team and to provide as much info for supporters around the world.  The Portadown Times and Lurgan Mail didn't have to plug the new site but i do applaud them for doing so.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 11, 2008, 02:01:32 PM
Fair play to you foxy you epitimise all that is good in our sport. You are clearly not in it for commercial gain( i wasn't suggesting this anyway i was just curious as to how they worked) I would also have to agree that the site  is more effective than the county board. You have only to take a look at their website. Once again well done and i hope you get all the support needed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ACFfoxy on April 11, 2008, 02:05:26 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 11, 2008, 02:01:32 PM
Fair play to you foxy you epitimise all that is good in our sport. You are clearly not in it for commercial gain( i wasn't suggesting this anyway i was just curious as to how they worked) I would also have to agree that the site  is more effective than the county board. You have only to take a look at their website. Once again well done and i hope you get all the support needed.

thanks mate, i appreciate it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 12, 2008, 08:48:29 PM
Harps beat Killeavey 1-13 to 2-7, which was some win considering we were 2-4 to 0-2 down after the first 20 minutes and playing like school children.  Fantastic turnaround, great team performance from then on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on April 12, 2008, 10:03:50 PM
any other results from tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on April 12, 2008, 11:25:06 PM
in division 2

carrickcruppen beat clann eireann by 5 points
sarsfields beat whitecross by 2
an port mor beat newtownhamilton by 2
silverbridge beat keady by 2

never heard anymore results
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 12, 2008, 11:52:10 PM
Quotesarsfields beat whitecross by 2
an port mor beat newtownhamilton by 2
:o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on April 13, 2008, 08:01:19 AM
Was goin to head home after 12 mins of the harps game as they were 8points down, but what a turnaround. Harps defence was opened up every time killeavey attacked. Phililp mckinney early substitution was the turning point.

Harps could have taken jungle or Candyman off, unfortunately for the latter, he got the phone call.

Congrats on a battling performance and maybe this will kickstart the year. Cross to look forward to next week. ;D

can we have the same ref next week ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on April 13, 2008, 09:22:12 AM
sorry typing error haha!

i was told last night an port mor beat newtown when it was infact tir na nog who beat them!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 13, 2008, 10:56:07 AM
Annaghmore beat Belleek 0-10 to 1-6 last night. Full report to follow shortly but Annaghmore lead for 50 minutes but nearly kicked themselves out of it as a goal from Belleek in the last 5 minutes put them ahead only for Annaghmore to kick two scores in injury time. Don't  know who the ref was but I thought he was one of the best I've seen in a long time apart from his whistling of two man tackles which at least he was consistent with.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on April 13, 2008, 11:21:04 AM
Granmore beat anportmor 1-16 to 1-9 ref was a joke. scoreline didnt reflect the game. The game was tight until last 10 mins. Ref sent off anportmor number 12 for shoulder in the back. bad decision. that changed the game and granmore won with ease.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 13, 2008, 03:25:03 PM
Clans beat cullyhanna 1-10 to 0-08 could have won by a bucket if they would have taken there chances but instead the game was in the melting pot until we got our goal with about ten minutes to go.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shooter on April 13, 2008, 07:11:13 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on April 13, 2008, 09:22:12 AM
sorry typing error haha!

i was told last night an port mor beat newtown when it was infact tir na nog who beat them!



Tir na nog were actually beat by 1 point
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 13, 2008, 08:17:28 PM
Quote from: Shooter on April 13, 2008, 07:11:13 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on April 13, 2008, 09:22:12 AM
sorry typing error haha!

i was told last night an port mor beat newtown when it was infact tir na nog who beat them!



Tir na nog were actually beat by 1 point

who actually beat who?? like ds i heard port mor had beaten newtown.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 13, 2008, 08:47:04 PM
QuoteClans beat cullyhanna 1-10 to 0-08 could have won by a bucket if they would have taken there chances but instead the game was in the melting pot until we got our goal with about ten minutes to go.

I think saying they shoulda won by a "bucket" is going a bit far but certainly Clanns were the better side last night. What was frustrating was that when we finally started to play a bit of good football and got within a point, we conceded a slack goal which put the game beyond reach although we had a really good chance for a goal late on.

Clans played well in fairness, very slick in attack. Marsden is still very crucial to them - always chooses the right options with the ball. Ronan Austin also had an excellent game at full forward. Thought Mal Mackin and Paul Toner were best for St Pat's - our main problem was that we were too predictable in attack. Not having Ciaran McKeever and Liam O'Hare is a huge loss for us but something we're going to have to learn to cope with. Big game next week which should give us some perspective on where we are now compared to last year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on April 13, 2008, 09:31:33 PM
Disappointing result for the pats versus a Clan Na Gael side which played some great football at times during the game. Marsden and Bumpy are still  a joy to behold in full flight though Ronan Austin looks as if he is starting to come back into form again.  For Clanns people out there.1 what age is young Campbellwho scored the goal. Is he a brother of John Campbell. Also who was the guy who played midfield with Bumpy thought he was a decent player as well.). I thought the goal was crucial moment in the match as Cullyhanna had come within a point of the Clanns men . Cullyhanna started with a number of young players last night who did quite well. Niall Mc Shane and Tony Donnelly were impresive but you would have to say that us not having Liam and Ciaran left us with a mountain to climb against a Clans team with so many good players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on April 13, 2008, 10:43:44 PM
tirnanog were beat by a point.. was a good match and a draw wud have been fair result.. good 1st half by newtown and good 2nd half by portadown and bad match by referee, he was inconsistant and gave silly things but let three man tackles go all day. not much effect on game, maybee shud have gave portydown men a point. but both teams look strong and will be there in august..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on April 13, 2008, 10:49:40 PM
young campbell is 16 for clans. how is mackin playin for st pats???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 13, 2008, 10:51:26 PM
Mullaghbawn and Dromintee drew.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 13, 2008, 10:59:43 PM
Quoteyoung campbell is 16 for clans. how is mackin playin for st pats???

Thought Mal was our best player yesterday - came into the game well and caught some good ball. He kicked a couple of good points although he missed a few as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 13, 2008, 11:44:06 PM
Young soupy, younger brother of thee soupy is 16 and has the makings of a good one. The other midfielder is stephen o hagan who has been playign now for some years and will always give 100%. The clans had a young squad out last night aswell with the majority of the payers between the ages of 18-25. So it was a fine performance with many of them lads making senior debuts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 14, 2008, 10:04:54 AM
Lads i see orchardcounty has rebelled and is back up and running. fair play till Barry for keeping the freedom of speech act alive. But i don feel for the other lad who had launched the Armaghcountyfans site. Not sure what way this will leave him as they have closed that site down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 14, 2008, 11:36:35 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 13, 2008, 11:44:06 PM
Young soupy, younger brother of thee soupy is 16 and has the makings of a good one. The other midfielder is stephen o hagan who has been playign now for some years and will always give 100%. The clans had a young squad out last night aswell with the majority of the payers between the ages of 18-25. So it was a fine performance with many of them lads making senior debuts.

Young Stefan Campbell is now 17 but is still minor next year and yes he is the youngest of the John soupie Campbell family (John has a son about 12 years of age and that cub is going to be like his da (at football to any of you who know John i could have been talking about several matters there).

I didn't know what to expect from that man Casey on the line (Going by what Pints was saying about him, i was expecting a monster) but in fairness he was ok to us and was actually a bit of craic at times. He actually caught a ball on the side line that wasn't out therefore giving possesion back to the clans so he seems a right fella ;) ;) :D everyone just bursted out laughing when he done this...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 14, 2008, 12:03:19 PM
St Peter's beat Ballyhegan by 6 points.

2 soft goals & Davitt's inability to convert their first half dominance into scores proved costly.

Peter's improved after the break & won convincingly in the end!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 15, 2008, 09:51:41 AM
I see the Cross Culloville game was called off . But i heard Culloville weren't to happy with this and were going to claim the points. Any truth in this rumour???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 15, 2008, 11:52:17 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 15, 2008, 09:51:41 AM
I see the Cross Culloville game was called off . But i heard Culloville weren't to happy with this and were going to claim the points. Any truth in this rumour???

Do you really think they'll get them ::) The same thing happened for this weekend, i was told Ogs and Cross refused to play on the Fri/Sat night and told the county board Sunday evening or nothing. How do they get away with it ??? if it was any other team in Armagh you'd be told when and where to play and if you don't like then hand the 2pts over...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: shot stopper on April 15, 2008, 12:02:00 PM
Is this why all league fixtures this weekend are Sunday evening rather than Sat??
Sat evening fixtures seem to be preferable for players and supporters. Cant see why they dont become permanent!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Malone Aristocrat on April 15, 2008, 12:06:34 PM

Thats why this weeks games are sunday.

Cross told the county board they'd be withdrawing all of their players from the minor and senior panels if they're game was not moved to sunday night so they could have their county panellists. culloville refused and game was called off. culloville claiming the points and will go all the way to croke park if necessary cos they expect the county board to fold as usual.

Cross are some craic. In the papers last year complaining that noone in armagh would play them a week after claiming points for games they'd agree to refix and now this shite.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 15, 2008, 12:56:02 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 15, 2008, 11:52:17 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 15, 2008, 09:51:41 AM
I see the Cross Culloville game was called off . But i heard Culloville weren't to happy with this and were going to claim the points. Any truth in this rumour???

Do you really think they'll get them ::) The same thing happened for this weekend, i was told Ogs and Cross refused to play on the Fri/Sat night and told the county board Sunday evening or nothing. How do they get away with it ??? if it was any other team in Armagh you'd be told when and where to play and if you don't like then hand the 2pts over...

The Ogs had actually asked for the game to be played on the friday night.  There was NO ultimatum given though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 15, 2008, 02:05:41 PM
Well as i have said before and i think most of you will agree, i don't blame Cross or the Ogs i blame the county board for being weak and not making a stand. The games on a saturday are ideal for supporters and the majority of players as it allows the odd saturday nite out with the missus or the boy friend if that's what you are into. :D :D  Also most people are not doing much on a saturday evening and can attend the games. Clubs should not be permitted to hold the county board to ransom. The county team are effectively holding the clubs to ransom also. They are asking the clubs to bend over backwards for the county team and i can assure you if the she was on the other foot there would be no concessions. If this is the case then the county board should have the ghoulies to call their bluff and if need be expose them. Let them pull players out of the county panel . The county will find other players. Then hand out fines for failure to fulfil fixtures and take the points off them. It ain't cullovilles fault the cross can't field their best players. Now i am not saying they cannot be accomodated because if these lads are putting themselves forward for county duty then they should be given the chance to represent their club aswell. However threatening strikes and withdrawals is not the way to go. Sounds like the cork debacle.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 15, 2008, 04:14:53 PM
This Stinks to the high Heavens and cannot be allowed to go unpunished! The county board are too soft with Cross and constantly allow them to be made a mockery off. If I was in the position I would have said to Cross, take your county players back but you wont need them for anything cause your out of the league and championship. ONLY THEN WILL YOU SEE THEM WISE UP. Its an absolute disgrace and I hope some of the county board read this thread cause heres a personal message to yous all - you should hold your heads in shame and disgrace!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 15, 2008, 04:41:13 PM
Thought it a bit strange this morning to see the club fixtures(in the Irish News) on Sunday evening as I checked the official Armagh website last night and they were down for saturday evening.  Set of stones required somewhere along the line.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on April 15, 2008, 05:01:24 PM
More Cross v Culloville games ding-dong then? If Cross hadn't thrown their league game last year Culloville would be in Division Two now. I somehow dont think Culloville will do too much. But it is in their right to push for the points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 15, 2008, 05:19:56 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 15, 2008, 04:41:13 PM
Thought it a bit strange this morning to see the club fixtures(in the Irish News) on Sunday evening as I checked the official Armagh website last night and they were down for saturday evening.  Set of stones required somewhere along the line.

Big time. It's obvious somebody said something and they were changed. We'll all have to take it up the ass as usual(not literally) and do what were told >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on April 15, 2008, 05:54:10 PM

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he is the youngest of the John soupie Campbell family (John has a son about 12 years of age and that cub is going to be like his da (at football to any of you who know John i could have been talking about several matters there).


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LMFAO   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 15, 2008, 06:35:38 PM
Quote from: Sidelined on April 15, 2008, 05:01:24 PM
More Cross v Culloville games ding-dong then? If Cross hadn't thrown their league game last year Culloville would be in Division Two now. I somehow dont think Culloville will do too much. But it is in their right to push for the points.

Took the words out of my mouth.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 15, 2008, 09:39:45 PM
Check the fixtures book

The game against Culloville last saturday was meant to be a home game for Cross but the county board would not let the pitch be played on prior to the dublin game.
Cross offerred to play the game on sunday night but Culloville refused
If this weeks games were played on saturday all clubs could use their county players which would not be great preparation for the Cork game.hence the sunday fixtures.There were no treats made
Get your facts right boys.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 15, 2008, 10:55:00 PM
QuoteIf this weeks games were played on saturday all clubs could use their county players which would not be great preparation for the Cork game.hence the sunday fixtures.

Why would the clubs be allowed to use their players this Saturday when they weren't allowed last Saturday? What's different about this week than last week?

Personally it's a huge advantage for us to have the county players but the league has to ruin fairly with the same consideration given to all clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 16, 2008, 10:04:48 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 15, 2008, 04:14:53 PM
This Stinks to the high Heavens and cannot be allowed to go unpunished! The county board are too soft with Cross and constantly allow them to be made a mockery off. If I was in the position I would have said to Cross, take your county players back but you wont need them for anything cause your out of the league and championship. ONLY THEN WILL YOU SEE THEM WISE UP. Its an absolute disgrace and I hope some of the county board read this thread cause heres a personal message to yous all - you should hold your heads in shame and disgrace!

Dam right - sick of them dirty cross scum dictating things- at least we all know that mcdonnell is now not only a bin lid but also a 100 5 yes man- if Grimlley was the manager this would not have happened- throw them cross tramps out of the league and championship is rite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: supersarsfields on April 16, 2008, 10:24:28 AM
Here lads I was just looking a bit of info. Just wondering if you's could tell me who the Armagh Physio is? Is it Paul Carragher from Newry?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 16, 2008, 10:34:01 AM
The concern here is for the ordinary club layer that seems to be year in year out overlooked by these county managers but at the drop of a hat their games can be postponed or switched to accomodate the county. I wouldn't be sure about other counties but surely something has to be done to ensure the club players get a fair craic. They have already  put the championship back to september and october meaning the average lad will have to train the nutsac off for 8 or 9 months before the highlight of the season starts. This was done for two reasons imo, Firstly to suit the county and secondly to suit Cross who they thought would win another all Ireland and give them a break before they got back to defend the title. There is not another team in the county that this rulling suited so i am finding it hard to change my mind. Everyone knows the best time for the championship is in and around July and August. It is quite easy with a bit of brains to pencil it in around county games. Claiming that it was to make the league more competitive was a load of bollox. I wouldn't be 10% sure what went on with that Cross- Culloville game but rest assured Cross will come out on top. If the gun was put to their head then you would see a different negotiation coming to the table. The best thing to do would be to bring it to the attention of the press then the rest of the country could see what a mockery the set up is in Armagh. But don't confuse my argument, i don't bame the Cross for their abuse of the system. The buck stops with the county board.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on April 16, 2008, 10:51:21 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on April 16, 2008, 10:04:48 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 15, 2008, 04:14:53 PM
This Stinks to the high Heavens and cannot be allowed to go unpunished! The county board are too soft with Cross and constantly allow them to be made a mockery off. If I was in the position I would have said to Cross, take your county players back but you wont need them for anything cause your out of the league and championship. ONLY THEN WILL YOU SEE THEM WISE UP. Its an absolute disgrace and I hope some of the county board read this thread cause heres a personal message to yous all - you should hold your heads in shame and disgrace!

Dam right - sick of them dirty cross scum dictating things- at least we all know that mcdonnell is now not only a bin lid but also a 100 5 yes man- if Grimlley was the manager this would not have happened- throw them cross tramps out of the league and championship is rite

Not sure what this has to do with McDonnell, he has no control over when club teams play - thats the county board.  It wont make any difference to him whether they play on Sat or Sunday Evening, so I doubt if he cares.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on April 16, 2008, 11:39:50 AM
Quote from: gander on April 16, 2008, 10:51:21 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on April 16, 2008, 10:04:48 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 15, 2008, 04:14:53 PM
This Stinks to the high Heavens and cannot be allowed to go unpunished! The county board are too soft with Cross and constantly allow them to be made a mockery off. If I was in the position I would have said to Cross, take your county players back but you wont need them for anything cause your out of the league and championship. ONLY THEN WILL YOU SEE THEM WISE UP. Its an absolute disgrace and I hope some of the county board read this thread cause heres a personal message to yous all - you should hold your heads in shame and disgrace!

Dam right - sick of them dirty cross scum dictating things- at least we all know that McDonnell is now not only a bin lid but also a 100 5 yes man- if Grimlley was the manager this would not have happened- throw them cross tramps out of the league and championship is rite


Not sure what this has to do with McDonnell, he has no control over when club teams play - thats the county board.   It wont make any difference to him whether they play on Sat or Sunday Evening, so I doubt if he cares.

Are they both not the same, or as things changed under the new regime where the manager doesn't dictate what happens with clubs and players etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on April 16, 2008, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: holylandsniper on April 16, 2008, 11:39:50 AM
Quote from: gander on April 16, 2008, 10:51:21 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on April 16, 2008, 10:04:48 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 15, 2008, 04:14:53 PM
This Stinks to the high Heavens and cannot be allowed to go unpunished! The county board are too soft with Cross and constantly allow them to be made a mockery off. If I was in the position I would have said to Cross, take your county players back but you wont need them for anything cause your out of the league and championship. ONLY THEN WILL YOU SEE THEM WISE UP. Its an absolute disgrace and I hope some of the county board read this thread cause heres a personal message to yous all - you should hold your heads in shame and disgrace!

Dam right - sick of them dirty cross scum dictating things- at least we all know that McDonnell is now not only a bin lid but also a 100 5 yes man- if Grimlley was the manager this would not have happened- throw them cross tramps out of the league and championship is rite


Not sure what this has to do with McDonnell, he has no control over when club teams play - thats the county board.   It wont make any difference to him whether they play on Sat or Sunday Evening, so I doubt if he cares.

Are they both not the same, or as things changed under the new regime where the manager doesn't dictate what happens with clubs and players etc

I cant say for sure if an Armagh manager is influencing club fixtures but its nothing to do with them.  Cant see why they would care when clubs play either,  County players generally wouldn't be playing for clubs coming up to championship matches anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 16, 2008, 12:43:50 PM
Speaking to a 'Cruppen man this morning and he told me they tried to get their B game off with Cross because of a deceased members mass, but Cross told them they'd be turning up and told the ref to turn up, nice.  Cruppen should threaten to pull out of the league and see what happens :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 16, 2008, 12:45:44 PM
Well son when Kernan was the manager he decided if and when club fixtures took place and as per usual the county board bowed down to his every request. What makes you so sure they have changed with Mc Donnell? Seamus Mc Donagh is the man who looks after club fixtures and he is an absolute joke - I hope you read this Seamus. He bows down to every bully boy tactic in the book and lets his own club, Dromintee, away with blue murder when it comes to fixtures and calling games off. It seems if a cat dies within 10 mile of Dromintee its such a tradegy that the senior team cant make the trip to play a game of football due to them being incapacitated with grief over the poor wee pussy!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 16, 2008, 01:19:38 PM
Get a hold of yourself Ivedecided, please give examples of when Dromintee have done this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 16, 2008, 01:35:39 PM
TO CORN 02
Ignore the FAKE ID. He's talking rubbish as usual.

TO GAA PUNTER
Even if Cross were thrown out of the championship,yous still wouldn't win it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 16, 2008, 01:42:13 PM
Well Corn only last year Clan na Gael had to play Dromintee twice in the last couple of weeks of the season and one of the matches wasnt played at all. At the start of last season they called of around four or five matches. This resulted in them having congested fixtures at the end of the season and they ended up not completing them all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 16, 2008, 01:48:29 PM
As for you crossdresser - all your club is good for is bullynig officialls and boards. If yous were a truely legendary team yous would have played culloville without a problem and yous would offer to play county finals elswhere other than your own home pitch. Yes yous have outstanding players but as for gamesmanship and fair play - none existent down there in the deep south!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 16, 2008, 01:59:04 PM
I see this argument is starting now into a blame game between clubs based on club rivalries but we are talking about the failure of the county board here. I think all clubs would call games off if they could at certain times of the year, it would make sense. But they generally try to fulfil all fixtures when they are fixed.I know my club do anyway. I also feel  clubs should try to acccomodate others if they are genuine and if it is possible to do so Ie golf classics and other club events. The issue of death has been misused by clubs in the past and it is a subject that shouldn't be messed with. If someone with a genuine belonging to any club has died then there should be no issue with the game being called off as a mark of respect. The county should make this clear at the start of some year and highlight that the rules are the same for all clubs involved and that no one for any reason can get special treatment. It's the only fair way and the only right way. It would probably stop us from having this debate aswell.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 16, 2008, 02:00:54 PM
Why do you think Cross wanted the game postponed?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 16, 2008, 02:08:33 PM
I seem to remeber Dromintee and Clans playing an excellent free-flowing game at the end of last year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 16, 2008, 02:17:45 PM
Exactly my friend that game was supposed to be played in April - you should also remember that yous had to travel to Davitt the following week due to pressure from the county board to fullfill all fixtures. If the two matches had been played when they were supposed to be the teams wouldnt have been under this pressure in October when there is nothing to play for! You cant honestly deny that Dromintee had several games put off to suit their own agendas last year and the previous year! It was the talk of the county!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 16, 2008, 02:25:46 PM
My opinion Goat is that they postponed their game so as to have some of their county players back for it. This is a bit strange to me considering they are still a formidable outfit without them. I cant however blame Cross for wanting their players available but if they are county players then thats it im afraid and if the county board fixed the games for Sat evening then that also should be final. No club should weild that power it has the potential to create a dangerous situation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 16, 2008, 02:31:25 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 16, 2008, 02:08:33 PM
I seem to remeber Dromintee and Clans playing an excellent free-flowing game at the end of last year.

Dromintee beat us in Dromintee (they scored about 4 goals that day in a really high scoring game) and we beat them in Davitt by 2-3pts if memory serves me correctly.

and i'm not getting into that stupid argument, espically with some fool trying to copy my name
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 16, 2008, 03:13:39 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 16, 2008, 02:25:46 PM
My opinion Goat is that they postponed their game so as to have some of their county players back for it. This is a bit strange to me considering they are still a formidable outfit without them. I cant however blame Cross for wanting their players available but if they are county players then thats it im afraid and if the county board fixed the games for Sat evening then that also should be final. No club should weild that power it has the potential to create a dangerous situation.

Is it fair that clubs should play without county their players?

The system has changed this year in Tyrone... every team has the right to postpone their matches if their county players are unavailable due to county commitments!

I agree with this system, I know I am biased, but Ballyhegan have suffered big time over the years... & it's won't improve this year!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 16, 2008, 03:20:54 PM
U sure the Tyrone system has changed? it seemed very sensible to me (County men would have to be made available for so many games - not sure of the numbers- was it 50% of games?)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 16, 2008, 03:30:45 PM
If clubs werent allowed to play without their county players there would be no club football! Is this what people want? It seems to me the whole thing is going in that direction anyway. Its illogical that 1000 players are constantly sacraficed so that 30 can be happy. And as for you 'ill decide' your not entering this argument cause I decided your not - you havent got the intelligence to do so anyhow!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 16, 2008, 03:48:36 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 16, 2008, 03:20:54 PM
U sure the Tyrone system has changed? it seemed very sensible to me (County men would have to be made available for so many games - not sure of the numbers- was it 50% of games?)

It changed this year. It was 50% 'Starred' games or whatever they were called, but now, the reduced the number of leagues to three (aligned with the 3 championships)  & are playing a one way league - reducing the number of club games.

IVEDECIDED if Clans were missing they're top players every week & got relegated a couple of time's you'd change your thinking i'm sure!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 16, 2008, 04:01:18 PM
Goats I couldnt care less if the Clans lost theyre top players every week that isnt my club I use them in arguments regularly cause they best sum up what im saying and anyway when they had Marsden and O'hagan on the panel they didnt call any matches off or threaten to pull them out of the county set up! I do have sympathy for teams such as Ballyhagan who definitely do suffer as a result of missing their county players but teams such as the Ogs and cross who can still field strong teams have no excuses whatsoever. Clubs have county players thats just the way it is - club football should not be made to suffer because of this. Maybe they should be allowed to line out for thier clubs a lot more often. It makes no sense to me that they arent allowed to play for such long periods of time anyway!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 16, 2008, 05:05:42 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 16, 2008, 03:30:45 PM
If clubs werent allowed to play without their county players there would be no club football! Is this what people want? It seems to me the whole thing is going in that direction anyway. Its illogical that 1000 players are constantly sacraficed so that 30 can be happy. And as for you 'ill decide' your not entering this argument cause I decided your not - you havent got the intelligence to do so anyhow!

Thats me put in my box ???

Goats you are correct in what you say that a small rural club simply cannot cope with 3 players gone to the county setup. Not only are you loosing 3 players but the 3 that step in are prob rank (no disrespect) therfore weaking even further. On the Clans topic that fool IVEDECIDED has a point, clans played without Marsden and O Hagan most of the time, Bumpy had more fallouts with JK over this and to my knowledge he walked out twice on JK because he wanted to play for his club.

I can't see no reason why the county men can't represent their clubs for the next 5-6 weeks as after Sunday Armagh won't have a competitive game till June 15th...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 16, 2008, 06:56:51 PM
i feel it is largely unfair for the clubs who produce such talented players who make the county panel to lose out on their services throughout the year. theres no doubt playing club games very close to championship time is not going to happen but certainly in the next month or so the players should be available to represent their clubs. fringe players on the county team would benefit, in my opinion, from playing regular football instead of being limited to the odd run out with their club.

i dont necessarily agree totally with the tyrone system, when brian mcguigan got the eye injury it was playing a reserve game, now what a county man like him was doing playing a reserve game is beyond me. but it seems they have system in place that ensures players get to represent their clubs fairly regularly.

and ive decided, your a joke. your vendetta against cross is becoming boring. jealousy never won anything. personally calls for them to be dumped out of the league and championship are ridiculous, if any aspiring footballer wants to win anything, you would want to beat the best. winning a championship without cross taking part just wouldnt feel right and it would never be completely satisfying.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 16, 2008, 07:40:24 PM
Quotewhen brian mcguigan got the eye injury it was playing a reserve game, now what a county man like him was doing playing a reserve game is beyond me.

In fairness I think the only reason he was plaing in a reserve match was that he was trying to get his way back to fitness.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 16, 2008, 08:45:27 PM
Thanks for your contribution qub - duely noted. Im very sorry I angered you. However I never asked for them to be thrown out just for the sake of it or to let someone else win it, I said they should be thrown out of it for holding the county board and all the other teams to randsom merely because they have the sway on the county panel at the moment. This cant be allowed to happen, even a numpty like you can realise this and I also siad the Ogs should receive the same punishment so it wasnt an anti Cross rant you spoon - get your facts right before you start slabbering son! ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 16, 2008, 10:06:44 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 16, 2008, 08:45:27 PM
it wasnt an anti Cross rant

in most of your posts you are complaining about cross. its getting as bad than pints and cullyhanna. have you nothing else to talk about, son.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 16, 2008, 10:10:54 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on April 16, 2008, 10:06:44 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 16, 2008, 08:45:27 PM
it wasnt an anti Cross rant

in most of your posts you are complaining about cross. its getting as bad than pints and cullyhanna. have you nothing else to talk about, son.

I didn't open my mouth!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 16, 2008, 10:12:06 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 16, 2008, 10:10:54 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on April 16, 2008, 10:06:44 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 16, 2008, 08:45:27 PM
it wasnt an anti Cross rant

in most of your posts you are complaining about cross. its getting as bad than pints and cullyhanna. have you nothing else to talk about, son.

I didn't open my mouth!

not of late, just referring to previous posts.

anyway, big game for the bridge on sunday evening...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 16, 2008, 10:16:11 PM
Hardly.

We'll you be throwing cheap shots there too?  :-\
::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 17, 2008, 07:57:22 AM
I attended the Mid B League game In Ballyhegan last night, where the Davitts entertained the Ogs Development squad.

Ballyhegan ended the strongest, winning by 2 points.

3.08 - 2.09

Fantastic 2nd half of football with 4 excellent goals coming in the last 5 minutes!

Best for Ballyhegan - young Mark Hughes in midfield had a great game (& scored 2 late goals!!)
Best for Ogs - Possibly thieir centre back McCloud?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 17, 2008, 08:55:14 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 16, 2008, 08:45:27 PM
Thanks for your contribution qub - duely noted. Im very sorry I angered you. However I never asked for them to be thrown out just for the sake of it or to let someone else win it, I said they should be thrown out of it for holding the county board and all the other teams to randsom merely because they have the sway on the county panel at the moment. This cant be allowed to happen, even a numpty like you can realise this and I also siad the Ogs should receive the same punishment so it wasnt an anti Cross rant you spoon - get your facts right before you start slabbering son! ;) :D ;D

So the Ogs should be punished for asking for a game to be changed??  seems a bit harsh you clown  >:(.  If you're gonna start mouthing about things on here then you'd be safer getting your facts right.  the Ogs never tried to hold the county board to ransom.  We simply asked for the date to be changed.  There was never any threats from us. Idiot!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 17, 2008, 10:27:03 AM
What is the ogs development squad?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 17, 2008, 10:47:02 AM
Their B team...  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 17, 2008, 11:12:15 AM
No I think you should get your facts right 'fool' I have heard from a county board representative this was the case! Yes yous asked for it to be changed but when the other team refused yous threw your toys out of the pram and threatened to pull your county men from all squads! If this isnt the case then why did the county board finally shift the match to Sunday? Answer me that El queervo? :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 17, 2008, 11:37:07 AM
It was a Cross request was it not? Any chance of a ban for this  muppet. He did say El Querevco, bound to get a ban in today's PC world.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 17, 2008, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 17, 2008, 11:37:07 AM
It was a Cross request was it not? Any chance of a ban for this  muppet. He did say El Querevco, bound to get a ban in today's PC world.



Your correctIvedecided get stuck into that corn 02 idiot
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 17, 2008, 12:35:21 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 17, 2008, 11:37:07 AM
It was a Cross request was it not? Any chance of a ban for this  muppet. He did say El Querevco, bound to get a ban in today's PC world.

as far as i know it was a cross request to change the match to the sunday.  We were looking our game moved forward to the Friday evening.  so i dont see how it is in IVEDECIDED's logic the we forced all games to the Sunday.  Like I said, he's a Clown.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 17, 2008, 12:54:03 PM
Now Now young man lets not get your knickers in a twist! No point in falling out over a difference of opinion thats what these forums are for - however for your piece of mind it was both the Ogs and Cross, as I stated way back at the beggining of this argument! Im getting some nasty replies from Ogs and Cross men - must be hitting a nerve with what im saying somewhere! ;) ;) :D
Chill out men its only football ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 17, 2008, 12:56:56 PM
Oh and as for you Corn I like the rules you play by - say something that you dont agree with and I should be banned! Thats laughable. Sure I know what you can do - see your club secretary and maybe yous can pull all your county men from the squad unless im banned from this forum! :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 17, 2008, 01:00:17 PM
Hardly hitting a nerve.  you're basically just making stuff up about the Ogs.  We didn't threaten to withdraw our county men
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 17, 2008, 01:02:11 PM
Ogs made the request for fri night. maghery were happy to postpone the game as a compromise.
Cross made the ultimanium over their players when cullaville refused to move their game and cullaville are rightly claiming the points now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 17, 2008, 01:04:27 PM
You are right IVEDECIDED, he should be called el queervo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 17, 2008, 01:08:27 PM
Well El Queervo if yous did withdraw your county men the subs bench would be brave and empty looking anyway! ;) :D ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 17, 2008, 01:16:33 PM
Looks like i'm dealing with some highly intellectual people  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 17, 2008, 02:14:29 PM
I think the levels have fallen way down here lads. The days of proper debates without name calling or calling for people to be banned seem to have been lost. No one needs to revert to name calling or trying to promt others to take action here on the board. If the matter at hand ie Cross threatening what is rumoured to have been then it is simply wrong. I don't know about the Ogs so i won't coment on it but i did here the one concerning the cross. So if they done it just own up and say they did and admit it is wrong and that we can find some better solution.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 17, 2008, 02:50:58 PM
Correct Winsam - your forever the 'voice of reason'! :) And as for the name calling I quit enjoyed it, it certailnly passed a crap morning at work. I dont mind it one bit so long as its a bit of banter and not meant to hurt. :'( It spices debates up - we arent priests after all, I hope. ;) Get stuck in lads thats what its all about! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on April 17, 2008, 07:18:14 PM
i see somebody has been mixing the buckfast and redbull again ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue is the colour on April 17, 2008, 07:28:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 15, 2008, 06:35:38 PM
Quote from: Sidelined on April 15, 2008, 05:01:24 PM
More Cross v Culloville games ding-dong then? If Cross hadn't thrown their league game last year Culloville would be in Division Two now. I somehow dont think Culloville will do too much. But it is in their right to push for the points.

Took the words out of my mouth.

Pints of guinness and sidelined. Unless you where at the match I dont think you can say that cross threw the game. They had as many county men playing as possible Aaron Kernan and co and they were winning until the last 2min so they deff did not throw the game such a comment just stinks of Jealously and Resentment enjoy Devision 2!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 17, 2008, 07:54:32 PM
Quote from: Blue is the colour on April 17, 2008, 07:28:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 15, 2008, 06:35:38 PM
Quote from: Sidelined on April 15, 2008, 05:01:24 PM
More Cross v Culloville games ding-dong then? If Cross hadn't thrown their league game last year Culloville would be in Division Two now. I somehow dont think Culloville will do too much. But it is in their right to push for the points.

Took the words out of my mouth.

Pints of guinness and sidelined. Unless you where at the match I dont think you can say that cross threw the game. They had as many county men playing as possible Aaron Kernan and co and they were winning until the last 2min so they deff did not throw the game such a comment just stinks of Jealously and Resentment enjoy Devision 2!!!

:D
Aren't Culloville something else.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on April 17, 2008, 09:45:20 PM
An old debate lads, but surely if the rangers wanted to win they game they would have won it.
As Cullovile provided the rangers with players over the years, they were never gonna put them down, although reckon if culloville try and claim the points which they are well entitled to, this relationship could be soured!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 18, 2008, 10:31:41 AM
There shouldnt be such relationships teams should play to win regardless of the situation. Otherwise why dont we just have 3 teams in Armagh - North, South and Mid!! >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 18, 2008, 11:16:56 AM

because it wouldn't be even close to competitive....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 18, 2008, 11:31:10 AM
Quote from: Uladh on April 18, 2008, 11:16:56 AM

because it wouldn't be even close to competitive....

You're prob right Uladh, but you can be sure none of you're team mates would make the region team ;) ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 18, 2008, 11:41:17 AM

everyone has their dreams !!

ours are just a little simpler than most...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 18, 2008, 12:10:25 PM
I think you may under estimate the challenge of the north of the county if they were to almagamate. Sure some of the teams are already half way to regional teams because they are amalgamating with new teams left right and centre. Every year there is a different name at under age. I reacall playing an under 21 side one time . they were amalgamated to form a team you know to give the lads a game  :D :D They stuffed us in Tir Na Nog and we had a fairly decent team, But i guess it is hard for one team to beat three. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 18, 2008, 12:32:25 PM
Interesting question then.
Try and pick a strongest 15 for your area.

I found it imposible for the South.

Ps does Marty Lavery stil lplay for Clans?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 18, 2008, 12:39:42 PM
Ah now that's juvenile and will only cause division. but....

I'd go for

                Hearty

Shannon    Bellew      Kernan
McKeever  O'Rourke   Kernan

        McKenna    O'Neill

O'Rourke   Kernan      Kernan
McConville  McDonnell O'Rourke

edit - adjustments on second thoughts!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 18, 2008, 12:40:55 PM
Yes he is. It would be hard to pick a team for all regions as people have different opinions on players abilities. All 3 regions would be strong and anyone who says otherwise is a fool. You can only play 15 at a time and there is surely 15 good players in all 3 regions. And get off your high horse about the south, there are plenty of dodgy players down there too! This is very intriguing now I wish it could happen on some level - maybe as a charity event each year. It would be great maybe even as a St. Paddys day event? If each region really committed to it as a one off each year it could be Armaghs 'Railway cup'.  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 18, 2008, 12:53:46 PM

Unbelievably you have a good idea there. our version of the dunblin blues match our whatever its called.

Mid

               McKinney

McCoy      Toner          Mallon       
Duffy       McCormack   McClelland

         Swift           Holmes

Toal         Loughran     Vernon
Clarke      Clarke          McCone


North

                  AN Other

Moriarty       Donaghy    clans cnr bk
McDonald     Rafferty     Courtney
   
       McGrane         Lavery

McKeever    O'Hagan     Mallon
Forker         Marsden     AN Other
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 18, 2008, 12:55:55 PM
Good shout Uladh but I would have John Mac in there for maybe McKenna. I would have McEvoy in for Hearty probably too.

Others in contention:
TK, PK, Eddie Martin, Stanfield, Benny McArdle, P Loughran, G Smith, G Mc Creesh, Mark Quinn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 18, 2008, 12:56:53 PM
Dwyer McAlinden?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 18, 2008, 01:19:49 PM
The North Team:                   Wilson
               Moriarity             Donaghy           P.Nash
               A. McAlinden       DmcAlinden      Mc Donald
                 
                         Mc Grane        Lavery
             
             Mallon        Marsden          Mc Keever
             O'Hare       O'Hagan          M.Lavery

I struggled a bit as its trickier than you think, Folker could well play as could a fit Ronan Austin instead of Lavery. Mc Keever sometimes plays poor so how how about Ryan Henderson at wing half and also P. Nashes brother Cairan who plays for a different club could well play centre half. Sarsfields Richie Stevenson and young Mc Gaughey area also noticable absentees in the forward line.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on April 18, 2008, 01:36:24 PM
               McKinney

McCoy      Toner          Mallon       
Duffy       Vernon     McClelland

          Swift        Mcgrane

Mckeever     Loughran      Courtney
Toal            Clarke          McCone

Ballyhagan play in the mid Armagh shield....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 18, 2008, 01:37:12 PM
Quote from: Uladh on April 18, 2008, 12:39:42 PM
Ah now that's juvenile and will only cause division. but....

I'd go for

                Hearty

Shannon    Bellew      Kernan
McKeever  O'Rourke   Kernan

        McKenna    O'Neill

O'Rourke   Kernan      Kernan
McConville  McDonnell O'Rourke

edit - adjustments on second thoughts!


I wouldnt have the four Kernans on it - you must be their cousin!! Surely Mickey Mac Namee and Johnny Murtagh have a bigger shout plus id play Mal Makin instead of O' Neill. Liam O' Hare is also a glaring ommission as is Gareth Smith and possibly Jerry Mc Creesh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 18, 2008, 01:40:24 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on April 18, 2008, 01:36:24 PM
               McKinney

McCoy      Toner          Mallon      
Duffy       Vernon     McClelland

          Swift        Mcgrane

Mckeever     Loughran      Courtney
Toal            Clarke          McCone

Ballyhagan play in the mid Armagh shield....


I think your right Ballyhagan are now a Mid team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 18, 2008, 01:53:12 PM
to be honest with no disrespect you could probably pick two south armagh teams that would be stronger than a mid or a north armagh team....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 18, 2008, 02:01:40 PM
Talk a bit of sense son!! You Could pick 2 strong teams from all sections that would be similar to each other. You must think there is no weak players down south - I take it your a Mullaghbawn man from your username. If you are son there are plenty of weak players on your own club team. Would many of them get into a 30 man south Armagh panel?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 18, 2008, 02:04:03 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on April 18, 2008, 01:36:24 PM
               McKinney

McCoy      Toner          Mallon       
Duffy       Vernon     McClelland

          Swift        Mcgrane

Mckeever     Loughran      Courtney
Toal            Clarke          McCone

Ballyhagan play in the mid Armagh shield....

Mid looking strong with the inclusion of the Ballyhegan lads!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 18, 2008, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: Uladh on April 18, 2008, 12:39:42 PM
Ah now that's juvenile and will only cause division. but....

I'd go for

                Hearty

Shannon    Bellew      Kernan
McKeever  O'Rourke   Kernan

        McKenna    O'Neill

O'Rourke   Kernan      Kernan
McConville  McDonnell O'Rourke

edit - adjustments on second thoughts!


         P.Rodgers

G Smyth  T McEntee G Mccreesh

B McKeown J Donaldson  P McCreesh

     M Mackin M Quinn

L O'Hare J McEntee R McCoy

P Loughran J Hanratty M McNammee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on April 18, 2008, 02:08:35 PM
north team

                          wilson
                         st peters
 
  moriarity           rafferty             d. mcalinden
  wolfetones       maghery                clans

  a mcalinden       mccann            mcdonald
      clans            tirnanog            tirnanog

               o'hagan          lavery
                 clans             maghery

  folker                mallon              austin
   maghery           tirnanog             clans

  henderson        marsden            turley
   c'eirienn            clans                tirnanog


there is an old fella does wing half back for the clanns too that is worth a place, few others too like mcalister tirnanog,  smith annaghmore, davy wilson st peters, couple sarsfield lads. but think the above wud be strong enough to compete
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 18, 2008, 02:12:51 PM
IVEDECIDED

I never said that all  :o south armagh players are strong, em that would not make sense, aahhh HELLO!! ::) but i tell you this, how many south armagh teams are there in div 1???/ take note...however there are plenty of strong players from clans, ogs and harps- that is plain to be seen as well as in lower divisions I acknowledge that ,but on a whole South of the county is stronger!!!

As for Mullaghbawn, we have given clans a good game any time we played you, and though we may not have any players on the county team, we are stil strong enough,dont you worry your little self  :D we would not want you to be gettin ur knickers in a twist AGAIN!!! ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D   Ok SON!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 18, 2008, 02:24:32 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on April 18, 2008, 02:07:05 PM
Quote from: Uladh on April 18, 2008, 12:39:42 PM
Ah now that's juvenile and will only cause division. but....

I'd go for

                Hearty

Shannon    Bellew      Kernan
McKeever  O'Rourke   Kernan

        McKenna    O'Neill

O'Rourke   Kernan      Kernan
McConville  McDonnell O'Rourke

edit - adjustments on second thoughts!


         P.Rodgers

G Smyth  T McEntee G Mccreesh

B McKeown J Donaldson  P McCreesh

     M Mackin M Quinn

L O'Hare J McEntee R McCoy

P Loughran J Hanratty M McNammee


I knew you were a Bawn man, I was just beginning to like you too untill you dared to put Johnny Hanratty, Donaldson or Mark Quinn near any sort of panel  :D You must be insane man!!! Mullaghbawn are a club I have alot of respect for and enjoy playing against thoroughly - but you have to accept that there are weak players in South Armagh playing on the top teams. There are weak players on the Cross, Dromintee and Mullaghbawn teams and thats life. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 18, 2008, 02:32:55 PM
of course there are weak players playing on the top teams, but less weak players than on some of the teams in the North / Mid of the county....tell you what though there are not 2many club players going out against John Donaldson thinkin he is weak  :o or he would not be long lettin them know, even though he is 35 or 36...IVEDECIDED every team has there strong and weak points that part of the beauty of the game....
Just because a club team has 5 county players doesn mean they will be the strongest in the county, it may help, but there are 10 other positions to be filled on the starting line -up, yeah??

Perfect example - All_ireland club champions are St Vincents...how many county players did the have?? u see
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on April 18, 2008, 03:07:12 PM
Real,

Who is R Mc Coy on your team?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 18, 2008, 03:07:17 PM
Ive known this to be the case for years real - Check out the Ogs, County players galore but no senior titles and whats more they have been relegated twice in the past 5 years!! County players can be a hinderence too - they can upset the status quo of a team thats been together all year. This of course isnt their fault but true none the less. They can also cause resentment by taking the place of someone who has been playing all year. A team with a good strong panel of club players training and playing together all year can be more dangerous than a team with a multitude of county talent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 18, 2008, 03:13:02 PM
I always hated those pesky county players.

R McCoy is Ronin McCoy of Dromintee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 18, 2008, 07:42:45 PM
Ronan McCoy is a flyin machine and he and Micheal O'R were the 2outstandin dromintee players against us last week..he is a bit light but his pace and ability to take a defender on was excitin 2watch,even thou he was on the other team....

Finally IVEDECIDED u are talkin sense :)...gud lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 19, 2008, 01:47:50 AM
Quote from: Real1995 on April 18, 2008, 02:07:05 PM

         P.Rodgers

G Smyth  T McEntee G Mccreesh

B McKeown J Donaldson  P McCreesh

     M Mackin M Quinn

L O'Hare J McEntee R McCoy

P Loughran J Hanratty M McNammee

how can you pick a top 15 from south armagh without aaron kernan, ciaran mckeever or steven mcdonnell to name but a few
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 19, 2008, 07:49:48 AM
qub, I'm guessing he was trying to pick a second team (with none of Uladh's 15 in it).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on April 19, 2008, 08:35:19 AM
Killeavy are goin down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 19, 2008, 08:31:58 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on April 19, 2008, 07:49:48 AM
qub, I'm guessing he was trying to pick a second team (with none of Uladh's 15 in it).

apologies, just realised my mistake.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 19, 2008, 08:33:21 PM
Quote from: Armagh4SamAgain on April 19, 2008, 08:35:19 AM
Killeavy are goin down.

is it not a bit early to suggest who is in going down this year? the first division is normally right to the wire for the relegation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on April 19, 2008, 10:19:57 PM
Newtown bt Wcross tonite. think there were 2 pts in it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 20, 2008, 12:45:04 PM
yeah it was a second string qub,no bother... ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 20, 2008, 06:45:52 PM
Dromintee 0-04 Cullaville 0-11 at the moment.  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 20, 2008, 07:46:48 PM
Finished Dromintee 0-10 Cullaville 0-20
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on April 20, 2008, 07:49:48 PM
any other results?
Title: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 20, 2008, 07:53:45 PM
Bridge beat cruppen by a point, I hear we were down by 5 or 6 at half time??   :o


Edit:  only 5 or 6 in it at half time I'm told now. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on April 20, 2008, 07:54:20 PM
Ballymacnab beat blackwater by 4 points!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 20, 2008, 08:01:59 PM
Cross bt Harps 1-12 to 0-7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 20, 2008, 08:21:58 PM
just home from the sarsfields granemore game.  good enough game though sam mcclatchy tried his best to ruin it!!didnt do granemore any favours, was v hard for them to get a free and if they touched a sarsfields player he went own.  sarsfields ended up winning by a point. 

gmore had the wind in the first half and didnt use it well, they played a short passing game instead of putting the early ball into jason o neill who had a very good game at 14. 

sarsfields had a similiar problem with the breeze but they put 3 high balls into eamonn mcgeown in the 2nd half got a goal(should have been square ball) a point and a penalty that was brilliantly saved by the granemore keeper. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on April 20, 2008, 08:37:28 PM
tirnanog beat keady by a point.  tirnanog probably deserved the win although keady hit some wides.. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: heganboy on April 20, 2008, 08:43:37 PM
I know this is ground that has been covered ealier, but as of now with the club season in its infancy, are there any young players that posters feel have a good shot at the county panel that have not had an opportunity yet.
I know there are the perennial old favourites, but I'm more interested in the 17-22 year olds that haven't really ever been tried out at all. Anybody think they have someone like that at their club?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on April 20, 2008, 10:38:38 PM
Cullyhanna beat a disappointing killeavey side by six points. Good performances from Mal Mackin in midfield and halfback line of Ciaran O Hare, Ciaran Mc keever and Paidi Mc Creesh who scored two excellent second half points. Killeavey missing Stanfield but Mc Donnell played and Ciaran Mc Keever had a great game on him. Cullyhanna scored the games only goal in the first half through Liam O Hare after being well set up by young corner forward Kieran Hoey. Good start to the league from the pats men with four points picked up from four on their travels.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 20, 2008, 10:43:06 PM
Mullaghbawn beat Maghery by two points.....i have been watchin football for a long time and i have never seen as young a senior team as maghery had out today...of the starting 15 there looked to be 2 or possibly 3 players over the age of 25.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 20, 2008, 10:44:47 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on April 20, 2008, 10:43:06 PM
Mullaghbawn beat Maghery by two points.....i have been watchin football for a long time and i have never seen as young a senior team as maghery had out today...of the starting 15 there looked to be 2 or possibly 3 players over the age of 25.....

You haven't seen the 'bridge in a while then.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 20, 2008, 11:02:05 PM
Collegeland beat Annaghmore by three points tonight but in truth it was never that close as Annaghmore couldnt get going and Collegeland opened up a 7 point lead inside 15 minutes.  Late goal for Annaghmore made the scoreline look respectable
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on April 21, 2008, 12:17:44 AM
madden bt ballyhagen by 5pts tonight in a hard physical game in ballyhagan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 21, 2008, 07:59:21 AM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on April 21, 2008, 12:17:44 AM
madden bt ballyhagen by 5pts tonight in a hard physical game in ballyhagan.

Yup, Madden deservedly won, with Joe Feeney in particular very impressive for the Raperee's.

Paddy McKeever played his 2nd full game of the day & Paul McGrane came on after 20 minutes to finish the game also!

Best for Ballyhegan was Paul Courtney & Joey Murphy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on April 21, 2008, 08:22:10 AM
The Ogs beat Clans by 2points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 21, 2008, 10:10:38 AM
Quote from: BenDover on April 21, 2008, 08:22:10 AM
The Ogs beat Clans by 2points

Yeah Og's beat us by 2pts, they deserved their win in a game where both teams were well under strength for a number of reasons. Clans only started to put it up to the Ogs with about 10 mins to go and at that stage Ogs were winning by 7 pts. Bumpy missed 2 chances late on that could have had a draw that we prob wouldn't have deserved.

P Hughes refereed it and was fair enough to both teams, a good ref but he does blow up very quick for we petty fouls. We are def heading towards a non contact sport lads...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: buglebhoy on April 21, 2008, 10:30:39 AM
What's the story with Philly Loughran apparently going to Dromintee?? Was at Clady 50 year gala night and the was some unpleasant words between Cathal O'Rourke and Philly's brother regarding Philly wanting to leave Clady!! Is he for leaving does anyone know??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 21, 2008, 10:32:46 AM
Quote from: illdecide on April 21, 2008, 10:10:38 AM
Quote from: BenDover on April 21, 2008, 08:22:10 AM
The Ogs beat Clans by 2points

Yeah Og's beat us by 2pts, they deserved their win in a game where both teams were well under strength for a number of reasons. Clans only started to put it up to the Ogs with about 10 mins to go and at that stage Ogs were winning by 7 pts. Bumpy missed 2 chances late on that could have had a draw that we prob wouldn't have deserved.

P Hughes refereed it and was fair enough to both teams, a good ref but he does blow up very quick for we petty fouls. We are def heading towards a non contact sport lads...
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I was at the game illdecide I thought the Clans were woeful to be honest, a shadow of the team of recent weeks, they let the Ogs dictate the game. What was up with yous? And why was Marsden etc not playing?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 21, 2008, 12:52:55 PM
Quote from: buglebhoy on April 21, 2008, 10:30:39 AM
What's the story with Philly Loughran apparently going to Dromintee?? Was at Clady 50 year gala night and the was some unpleasant words between Cathal O'Rourke and Philly's brother regarding Philly wanting to leave Clady!! Is he for leaving does anyone know??

hardly matter one rubbish team to another
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 21, 2008, 12:58:42 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 21, 2008, 10:32:46 AM
Quote from: illdecide on April 21, 2008, 10:10:38 AM
Quote from: BenDover on April 21, 2008, 08:22:10 AM
The Ogs beat Clans by 2points

Yeah Og's beat us by 2pts, they deserved their win in a game where both teams were well under strength for a number of reasons. Clans only started to put it up to the Ogs with about 10 mins to go and at that stage Ogs were winning by 7 pts. Bumpy missed 2 chances late on that could have had a draw that we prob wouldn't have deserved.

P Hughes refereed it and was fair enough to both teams, a good ref but he does blow up very quick for we petty fouls. We are def heading towards a non contact sport lads...
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I was at the game illdecide I thought the Clans were woeful to be honest, a shadow of the team of recent weeks, they let the Ogs dictate the game. What was up with yous? And why was Marsden etc not playing?

Our fella was sick. And so was i after watching that match.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 21, 2008, 02:17:10 PM
GAAPunter are you in comedy?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 21, 2008, 02:20:26 PM
Could someone post the Armagh results from yesterday please...I was trying there myself with no joy...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 21, 2008, 03:32:27 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 21, 2008, 02:17:10 PM
GAAPunter are you in comedy?

Corn lad i just state the truth- simple as that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 21, 2008, 04:08:45 PM
Yeah, good rationale acomment it was too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 21, 2008, 06:43:05 PM
What fantastic club are you from GAApunter? You clearly aren't worthy of an opinion if you are going to compare Clady to Dromintee. Do I need to explain to you that they are 3 divisions apart? surely posting on the Armagh section you would already know that...

...Although you can't take anything for granted these days, there is no safeguard against people with "learning difficulties" joining the board.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 21, 2008, 09:02:04 PM
lol there goes the punters middle :D :D ;).
Just on the clans me on sunday. The clans were totally outclassed in the game and the scoreline really didn't reflect the true nature of the game. But in many ways it was a good thing because you can rest assured it won't happen again. The harps game should be good now next sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 21, 2008, 09:07:12 PM
Quote...Although you can't take anything for granted these days, there is no safeguard against people with "learning difficulties" joining the board.

Too many on this thread who won't, for some reason, state what club they're from and would rather just sit in the corner criticising others.  Too many who are all talk now but will drift off as their teams start dropping points or who will only post when their team wins, it's very hard to take these people seriously - I see our cruppen brethren are the first victims. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on April 21, 2008, 09:31:45 PM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E WEDNESDAY 30 APRIL 2008

Monday 21 April

ACL – Division Four (7.00)
Dorsey Emmett's v Clady


Wednesday 23 April

ACL – Division Three (7.30)
Clonmore v Grange (Tony O'Hare)


Friday 25 April

ACL – Division Two (7.30)
Clann Eireann v Wolfe Tones (Jim Lynch)


Sunday 27 April

ACL – Division One (2.00)
St Patrick's v Dromintee (Brendan Gorman)
Harps v Clan na Gael (Ronan Quigley)
Killeavey v Mullaghbawn (Noel Martin)
Crossmaglen v Pearse Og (Gary Smith)
Culloville v Maghery (Dessie McDonnell)

ACL – Division Two (2.00)
An Port Mor v Clann Eireann (Oliver Hearty)
Carrickcruppen v Tir na nÓg (Stephen Murray)
St Michael's v Sarsfields (Kevin Gallogly)
Wolfe Tones v Silverbridge (Jimmy McKee)
Keady v Whitecross (Damian McConville)
Granemore v Ballymacnab (Paul Rath)

ACL – Division Three (2.00)
Tullysaran v St Paul's (Rory Robinson)
Madden v Belleek (Paudie Hughes)
Annaghmore v Clonmore (Joe Murtagh)
Crossmaglen II v Ballyhegan (Malachy McNicholl)
St Peter's v Collegeland (Barney Henry)
Grange v Lissummon (Jim Lynch)

ACL – Division Three (2.00)
Shane O'Neill's v O'Hanlon's (Patrick Duffy)
Corrinshego v Middletown (Mickey Leonard)
Mullaghbrack v Forkhill (Sean McClatchey)
Clady v Eire Og (Vincent O'Neill)
Derrynoose v Dorsey Emmett's (Seamus O'Neill)
Bye – Phelim Brady's


We could actually win a game this weekend
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 21, 2008, 09:35:12 PM
QuoteWe could actually win a game this weekend

Ollie hearty decides the winner!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 21, 2008, 10:14:59 PM
QuoteCullyhanna beat a disappointing killeavey side by six points. Good performances from Mal Mackin in midfield and halfback line of Ciaran O Hare, Ciaran Mc keever and Paidi Mc Creesh who scored two excellent second half points. Killeavey missing Stanfield but Mc Donnell played and Ciaran Mc Keever had a great game on him. Cullyhanna scored the games only goal in the first half through Liam O Hare after being well set up by young corner forward Kieran Hoey. Good start to the league from the pats men with four points picked up from four on their travels.

Think it was 7 points in the end pat_mc but I'd agree with the summary. THought Mal had an excellent game meself. Forward line looked a lot more dangerous than against Clanns and we even spurned 2 good goal chances in the first half (superb game from Blaine Cromie to push an effort from Aidan Mackin onto the bar).

Considering the same 2 teams drew at the end of last year, I think this result shows that we've progressed since then although I suppose there's also the possibility that Killeavy have regressed. Thought Kieran Hoey did very well meself. Excellent improvement all round from last week. Interesting to see how we do against Dromintee on Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on April 21, 2008, 11:29:58 PM
AT LEAST THE CRUPPEN BRETHREN GO TO WATCH OUR TEAM PLAY!

pints your clearly wrong on that one! being one of the cruppen brethren i'm only getting the chance to write on this now since the game last night!

defensive lapses cost us dearly last night and let the bridge in for 2 goals. discipline let us down with the referee moving the ball up for questioning his decision 4 times! very disapointed to lose a 6 point lead in the manner it was done! hopefully its the kick in the arse we need!
Title: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 21, 2008, 11:37:54 PM
QuoteAT LEAST THE CRUPPEN BRETHREN GO TO WATCH OUR TEAM PLAY!

Well I'm happy you can, there's nothing I'd love more than to be fit to go to the 'bridge games but I'm not in the country, it's about the only thing I miss about home. 


You'd plenty of time to browse, unfortunately not posting when your team drops points is something I've come to expect of several posters that post on this thread. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 21, 2008, 11:47:08 PM
one must always ake the rough with the smooth the pints man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 22, 2008, 07:56:22 AM
Where do Cross II's play?  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on April 22, 2008, 09:54:11 AM
did i miss the results for the weekend games in the irish news,also cannt see any senior league fixtures for this week in it?good man anportmor for posting fixtures,who is armagh pro responsible for this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 22, 2008, 02:34:33 PM
Goats i would say cross seconds would play wherever they would be down to play. Ie St paul's v Cross II. would be at st Paul's  :D :D. Only winding you. They must not play their home games at cross then, i take it that is what you are getting at??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 22, 2008, 02:41:06 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 22, 2008, 02:34:33 PM
Goats i would say cross seconds would play wherever they would be down to play. Ie St paul's v Cross II. would be at st Paul's  :D :D. Only winding you. They must not play their home games at cross then, i take it that is what you are getting at??

I presumed they played in Cross, but if their senior team is playing there, then their II's are hardly!  :-\

Maybe they'll just switch & Ballyhegan will play at home this time?

Slag off Cross on here & I'd get a response fairy quickly! - Ask a question & they all hide!  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 22, 2008, 03:24:59 PM
 :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 22, 2008, 03:30:28 PM
Quote from: Uladh on April 08, 2008, 12:08:41 PM

Very difficult to assess teams this early in the season, especially without seeing them. Going on hunches, guesses, stories and reports it looks as though
clans might be in decent shape with DM in full tow.
cullyhanna will be very competitive in the division but as has been said, the county players are probably vital to them.
Maghery seem to be poorly organised and well back.
Mullaghbawn will be the usual high energy side but lack quality.
Dromintee - hard to know. beat a poor maghery without the 2 o'rourkes but could be running out of resources.
Ogs seem to be moving well and should progress from last year.
Harps look to have taken a few more steps back but this weekend will say more about them
killeavy will be fit and organised but will lack a scoring threat in this division without their 2 county men (stanfield should be available sat?)
Cross - assuming they'll not be training their starters much at this stage but have more than adequate cover.
Cullaville - Alan o'neill's retiremant will have hit them but will be aggressive and direct as usual

Cross to win the league ahead of clans and ogs
Killeavy, cullaville and harps to battle for survival

This weekend -

Maghery v Pearse Og            Ogs
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn      Draw
Killeavey v Harps                   Killeavy
Crossmaglen v Culloville          Cross
St Patrick's v Clan Na Gael      Clans


MAYBE YOUR RIGHT....  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 22, 2008, 03:38:40 PM

Including a draw, 4 out of 5 weren't bad on that docket!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 22, 2008, 03:59:18 PM
The Armagh club fixtures and results are usually on the www.orchardcounty.com website.
I assume that is where An port mor got them from in his last post.
I think the Armagh PRO is someone from Middletown.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 22, 2008, 09:02:55 PM
To goats Do Shave.

Sorry for the long, long delay in replying.

The game is not until sunday so i hope this post still leaves you time to make the necessary arrangements

When Cross seniors are also playing at home the division 3 team normally play in the council pitch which is behind the main pitch.
You can use the same entrance if you wish but the official entrance is the next turn on the right just past the rangers hall. ( Lismore Estate ).

However Paddy Mc Keever was talking to one of our boys after the Cork game and he said he would see if yous would mind playing at 3.30 so yous could use the Rangers pitch.

Again my sincere apologies for the big delay.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 22, 2008, 10:38:31 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 21, 2008, 11:37:54 PM
QuoteAT LEAST THE CRUPPEN BRETHREN GO TO WATCH OUR TEAM PLAY!

Well I'm happy you can, there's nothing I'd love more than to be fit to go to the 'bridge games but I'm not in the country, it's about the only thing I miss about home. 


You'd plenty of time to browse, unfortunately not posting when your team drops points is something I've come to expect of several posters that post on this thread. 

some have better things t do than spend every spare minute watching gaaboard.com for a new comment. anyway, agree about the young bridge team, and as poor a bridge team ive seen in a long time. we completely lost our shape and switched off in the second half when absolutly cruising.

when do you be in the country for as long as i can remember you've missed games. you weren't even at the dinnerdance. were you at the armagh louth game in silverbridge??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 22, 2008, 10:51:15 PM
Quote
when do you be in the country for as long as i can remember you've missed games. you weren't even at the dinnerdance. were you at the armagh louth game in silverbridge??

Yes, I haven't lived around the 'bridge full time (for the want of a better phrase) for a number of years now but I don't think that's any of your business or relevant to this thread.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on April 22, 2008, 10:52:23 PM
Any truth in the rumour cruppen men that managers have walked??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on April 22, 2008, 10:57:31 PM
it's only a rumour but keep spreading it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on April 22, 2008, 11:11:23 PM
So not true!! Thats all i asked!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mhacadoir on April 23, 2008, 01:50:40 AM
armagh PRO is Joe Jordan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 23, 2008, 07:50:21 AM
Quote from: crossfire on April 22, 2008, 09:02:55 PM
To goats Do Shave.

Sorry for the long, long delay in replying.

The game is not until sunday so i hope this post still leaves you time to make the necessary arrangements

When Cross seniors are also playing at home the division 3 team normally play in the council pitch which is behind the main pitch.
You can use the same entrance if you wish but the official entrance is the next turn on the right just past the rangers hall. ( Lismore Estate ).

However Paddy Mc Keever was talking to one of our boys after the Cork game and he said he would see if yous would mind playing at 3.30 so yous could use the Rangers pitch.

Again my sincere apologies for the big delay.

Cheers Cross!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 23, 2008, 09:43:39 AM
Quote from: mhacadoir on April 23, 2008, 01:50:40 AM
armagh PRO is Joe Jordan

Hes an asshole
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 23, 2008, 11:19:57 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNzZzsvOClc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 23, 2008, 01:09:30 PM
very good uladh  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 23, 2008, 04:21:14 PM
Interesting one for us this weekend. St Pats have started the season very well, while we took a tanking at home. Dorsey will probably nick it, but it should be close and hard-hitting.

My picks for this weekend:
St Pats
Harps
Killeavy and MBawn to draw
Cross
Cullaville
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 23, 2008, 04:35:13 PM
Mullaghbawn
cross to draw
clans
st.Pats
culloville

Correct son!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 23, 2008, 04:38:42 PM
Dromintee
Clans
Mullaghbawn
Cross
Cullaville
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on April 23, 2008, 06:40:10 PM
Ogs to beat cross by 4/5 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Red Hurley on April 24, 2008, 10:00:39 AM
The Ogs must be going well this year. Have they got it in them to challenge Cross later in the season when it matters or is it another false dawn?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 24, 2008, 11:10:25 AM
Quote from: Red Hurley on April 24, 2008, 10:00:39 AM
The Ogs must be going well this year. Have they got it in them to challenge Cross later in the season when it matters or is it another false dawn?

False Dawn ;) Only messin. This is the year for a new breakthrough in armagh, cross will be beat this year...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 24, 2008, 11:13:34 AM
who do you fancy to beat them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 24, 2008, 11:45:47 AM
Quote from: crossfire on April 24, 2008, 11:13:34 AM
who do you fancy to beat them

Being serious i think Clans, Ogs, Dromintee and maybe Harps are all pretty much on Par with each other and it's all about who wants it the most on the day. Any 1 of those 4 teams could beat Cross in this years championship. I know I've said it before on here and yes Cross are still a formidable force but now that Oisin, the Mac twins, Donaldson, Bellew are getting on a bit and they have some miles in the legs Cross will not be the same team without them men. Don't get me wrong they will still be the team to beat every year but they will not win the championship every year the way they have been doing so.

Do any of you agree????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 11:57:19 AM
I think they will be taken this year - but only if the Clans and the Ogs amalgamate!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 24, 2008, 12:05:01 PM
They can't keep winning it every year. But its just very hard to see them getting beat plus the fact that they have a cracking underage structure churning out good players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 24, 2008, 12:31:55 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 11:57:19 AM
I think they will be taken this year - but only if the Clans and the Ogs amalgamate!! ;D

Go back to Eire Og or wherever you came from son as you talk some keek...I thought you were starting to be sensible for a while there
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 12:41:24 PM
They will be beaten and I think it may be this year. I think they only ones fit for it are the Ogs and the Clans. The Harps or Dromintee havent the goolies for it and Mullaghbawn havent the players  - which is unfortunate cause they do have the goolies! The Clans would need a lot to go right for them but are capable of making this happen and a big strength they have is they certainly arent overwhelmed by Cross like other temas are. The Ogs are in a better position than most with the panel they have but my problem with them is that they never seem to play anywhere near as well as their team sheet suggests they might do.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2008, 12:46:41 PM
I love when this old chestnut pops up.  I thougt when the draw was made that this would be Dromintees year to beat them.  I tought they would get them on the bounce as I thought the first round would have been at the normal end April/start May. 
With it being pushed back this suits Cross better than anyone as not only do they have the best first 15, they have a second string which would make most teams, but they are young.
A few games under the belt in the league will bring them on and the squad will only get stronger.  They could be beaten but it will take a situation where everything goes right for a team and Cross have a very bad day.  Can't see it happening to be honest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 24, 2008, 12:49:43 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 12:41:24 PM
I think they only ones fit for it are the Ogs and the Clans. The Harps or Dromintee havent the goolies for it and Mullaghbawn havent the players  - which is unfortunate cause they do have the goolies!

Have you any evidence that Ogs or Clans have any more balls than the other two? i would suggest its the opposite actually as Ogs and clans have better players than dromintee in particular and haven't gotten the job done.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 12:52:35 PM
Of course you have a point uladh and that remains to be seen but its only my opinion. And as for you brokebackmountain I was wondering why the championship wasnt till August - now I know. :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2008, 01:00:56 PM
Good to see you argue a point ivennoknob.  Tell me, what basis do you use to say that Clans will bat Cross this year?  While I can see Ogs putting up a strong challenge, in my view, Clans do not have the talent.  Take Bumpy and Diarmuid out of the team and they have no one of real class.  The reality is that there are 5-6 players of equal if not more ability tahn these two on the Cross team.  The difference is that the other 8-9 that play are not too far off either.  I wouldn't matter when Cross play I think they will win, I just think that by the first round being out back, it will make it easier for them to win ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 01:14:51 PM
Your right Brokenrecord1 take them two outta the Clans team and they are a young side, agreed. But lets be honest are the Cross much different - you take the Kernans, Mac Entees, Oisin, Bellew, Murtagh, Donaldson and Mac Namee outta the Cross team and they are pretty one dimensional too.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2008, 01:18:54 PM
What is it they say about not arguing with a fool? ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 24, 2008, 01:19:12 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2008, 01:00:56 PM
Good to see you argue a point ivennoknob.  Tell me, what basis do you use to say that Clans will bat Cross this year?  While I can see Ogs putting up a strong challenge, in my view, Clans do not have the talent.  Take Bumpy and Diarmuid out of the team and they have no one of real class.  The reality is that there are 5-6 players of equal if not more ability tahn these two on the Cross team.  The difference is that the other 8-9 that play are not too far off either.  I wouldn't matter when Cross play I think they will win, I just think that by the first round being out back, it will make it easier for them to win ;D

what do you mean by that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 01:19:46 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 23, 2008, 04:38:42 PM
Dromintee
Clans
Mullaghbawn
Cross
Cullaville


Maybe you didnt hear me the first time son! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 01:26:13 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on April 24, 2008, 01:19:12 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2008, 01:00:56 PM
Good to see you argue a point ivennoknob.  Tell me, what basis do you use to say that Clans will bat Cross this year?  While I can see Ogs putting up a strong challenge, in my view, Clans do not have the talent.  Take Bumpy and Diarmuid out of the team and they have no one of real class.  The reality is that there are 5-6 players of equal if not more ability tahn these two on the Cross team.  The difference is that the other 8-9 that play are not too far off either.  I wouldn't matter when Cross play I think they will win, I just think that by the first round being out back, it will make it easier for them to win ;D

what do you mean by that?


Dont worry about the lingo they do things their own way in South Armagh - which includes thier own language which cant be understood by anyone else. I think it roughly translates to, ' Id love to go with my sister' give or take. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 24, 2008, 01:27:59 PM
I'm from South Armagh... but I take your point.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2008, 01:33:46 PM
For the legends of pedantry, it was a typo.  It should have read "I just think that by the first round being put back, it will make it so much easier for them to win"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 24, 2008, 01:34:54 PM
oh right and why do you think that? More time to prepare is that what your saying?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2008, 01:38:44 PM
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I love when this old chestnut pops up.  I thougt when the draw was made that this would be Dromintees year to beat them.  I tought they would get them on the bounce as I thought the first round would have been at the normal end April/start May. 
With it being pushed back this suits Cross better than anyone as not only do they have the best first 15, they have a second string which would make most teams, but they are young.
A few games under the belt in the league will bring them on and the squad will only get stronger.  They could be beaten but it will take a situation where everything goes right for a team and Cross have a very bad day.  Can't see it happening to be honest.

My original post
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 24, 2008, 02:49:03 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 01:14:51 PM
Your right Brokenrecord1 take them two outta the Clans team and they are a young side, agreed. But lets be honest are the Cross much different - you take the Kernans, Mac Entees, Oisin, Bellew, Murtagh, Donaldson and Mac Namee outta the Cross team and they are pretty one dimensional too.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Ivedecided i had to laugh when you posted that :D. You just named 11 players there son ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 03:01:33 PM
Oh well done lad, congratulations on that you numpty! - I was indirectly agreeing with the Cross gentleman! There are some smart cookies on this board thats for damn sure.  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 24, 2008, 03:02:21 PM
Finally you guys are beginning to realise what i have said all along. "that the championship was delayed this year to suit Cross" Give them a break after winning the All Ireland (which they didn't win but one could rightly predict they would considering their record) and let them play a second string throughout the league. The when the championship comes along the whole 6 months later they will be well ready and the older guys will be well rested and fresh ready to go at it again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 24, 2008, 03:06:04 PM
I love a bit of Cross bashing but I am totally missing the point here, why would it suit Cross? I am being slow here,I don't understand.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 24, 2008, 03:44:56 PM
To give them a bit of a break after winning the all-ireland? (which they were supposed to do).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 03:45:47 PM
I think it will end up not suiting Cross as it will give the Athletics grounds more time to be ready to host the semis and final. However we best keep this to ourselves, if the county board realise their mistake the championship will be played this week, to allow the final to be played in Oliver twist park! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2008, 03:49:59 PM
If I recall rightly, we beat Clans, Mullaghbawn,Ogs,Madden :o and Dromintee in the Athletic Grounds in either County Finals or semis so I would doubt it would hold any fear ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 03:57:53 PM
Then why didnt yous offer to play the last five county finals outside your own park?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 24, 2008, 03:58:33 PM
I like your style ivdecided.

I don't think its a question of fearing the athletic grounds. Its more a question of the undeniable advantage Cross have playing a county final in their own ground which they train on every week and have played on for years not to mention their own home support. Would you seriously deny this has been a significant advantage to cross over the years?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2008, 04:03:27 PM
Old argument. Cross played in Silverbridge since the Athletic Grounds were closed down and never had any problem where it was played. There are other issues like Health and Safety and Insurance which require games to be played at certain types of venues.  Cross is currently the only one in Armagh with those facilities. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 04:09:10 PM
Thats because all the available investment was put into your ground brokeback1 - why was this? Its not like yous needed the money im sure it could have been gathered up through diesel profits or donations from the British military.  ;) Why wasnt Silverbridges ground or Davitt park revamped instead of Cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2008, 04:16:50 PM
I think you'll find we didn't get investment from the County Board to renovate the ground.  It is not our fault that they are so incompetent that they have been dragging their feet on developing the Athletics Grounds.

You're very clever with your snide comments and arse faced insults, maybe you have issues about yourself.  FFS, you even had to copy someone elses username, it shows the level of your thought process! 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 04:20:07 PM
I think I hit a nerve there lads what yous think! ;D Job done id say. But calm down on the insults yourself big lad. I mean slagging me about the origin of my user name is a low blow. Lets keep it as civil as possible where we can mate. A lesser man may not have been able to handle that level of abuse.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 24, 2008, 04:22:47 PM
Job done?  Fair enough
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 24, 2008, 04:24:07 PM
Has Crossmaglen not played all their earlier rounds, including the semi-finals, outside of Oliver Plunkett Park?
Why is there so many begrudgers on this Discussion Board as most of them seem to have something against the greatest club side of all time?
Sure Crossmaglen only oblidged the County Board by allowing them to play Armagh club finals in Crossmaglen for the past number of years when the Athletic Grounds were being refurbished.
Give the Ranger's a break.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 04:32:47 PM
Your right - sorry. God love those Ranger angels. They unselfishly allowed the county finals to be played on their own pitch. And I cant believe they had to play early round matches AND semis on other pitches. Why surely this cant be accepted. What on Earth are the county board thinking!! Maybe if we campaigned at congress we could get all championship games played in Cross. Then at least it would be an even playing field for everyone.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 24, 2008, 04:35:49 PM
Where do you suggest the Finals should have been played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2008, 04:39:44 PM
Whats wrong with the Marshes? Or even the Bridge? ANSWER: They arent Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on April 24, 2008, 05:15:45 PM
It would not matter as to where they were played - Crossmaglen would still be going for their 13th in a row.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 24, 2008, 05:52:23 PM
Look, back to the argument in hand. It is totally unacceptable that any team can have home advantage in a final. you speak of health and safety and insurance issues, well where were these issues when the semi-final was played in silverbridge last year? There are plenty of places where the final could be played, I think the marshes was a viable one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on April 24, 2008, 07:03:17 PM
Cross had no problem winning the Ulster final in the Marshes, so such a move would hardly have made any difference. Perhaps it should have been have moved to Blayney as Cross once lost a game there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on April 24, 2008, 07:21:19 PM
hardly think it matters where the final is played, Cross will win it with perhaps the Og's presenting the stiffest test.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 24, 2008, 07:33:12 PM
Quote from: Diet Coke on April 24, 2008, 07:21:19 PM
hardly think it matters where the final is played, Cross will win it with perhaps the Og's presenting the stiffest test.

Very good, you've established Cross are favourites for the championship. You should work for Ladbrokes.

Look I don't care where Cross have won or lost before, and i'm not saying the outcome would have been different had the finals been played anywhere else, the truth is no one knows what the outcome would have been.

What we can say with some conclusivity is that there is no doubt an advantage is given to Cross when they play the final in their home ground and this is unfair.

No one can deny this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 24, 2008, 08:48:13 PM
Since 1996 Cross have been undefeated in 90 championship games.
Only 14 of these have been played in Cross, so i think the venue doesn't make much difference.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 24, 2008, 09:25:11 PM
Well i for one would not agree with any ARMAGH county final being played in the Marshes.....its the county ground of an neighboring county ...jesus lads we would be hard up >:(......lets keep it in the county.... Speaking as not a Cross man,we all have to admit whether we like it or not that they have been the outstanding team in the county over the last decade,and even if the final was played in iraq they would still have won them all.....so now year upon year its up to the rest of us to raise the bar and challenge them.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 24, 2008, 10:23:04 PM

how did they manage to get 14 championship games at home since 1996?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on April 25, 2008, 08:34:15 AM
I think it roughly translates to, ' Id love to go with my sister' give or take

'IVEDECIDED'Why don't you just f**k off somewhere else and waste your time, you little loser!!!! You are an idiot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 25, 2008, 10:34:14 AM
Ill get right on that Scarface. But before I go - Home advantage in a county final does not guarantee you anything however it is worth 2 points in my opinion as it adds a relaxing factor which can make all the difference on those big occasions. Tony Kernan said as much when he scored for the county team in Cross, 'Ive been putting the ball over that crossbar since I was a child so it wasnt going to be a problem today'. Now look back at the number of finals Cross only won by 1-3 points and its hard to argue that this may not have been the case somewhere else.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 25, 2008, 10:49:47 AM
Quote from: Real1995 on April 24, 2008, 09:25:11 PM
Well i for one would not agree with any ARMAGH county final being played in the Marshes.....its the county ground of an neighboring county ...jesus lads we would be hard up >:(......lets keep it in the county.... Speaking as not a Cross man,we all have to admit whether we like it or not that they have been the outstanding team in the county over the last decade,and even if the final was played in iraq they would still have won them all.....so now year upon year its up to the rest of us to raise the bar and challenge them.....


Real its no shame to need the use of another facility while your own is being refurbished - thats what neighbours are for.  :) Sure the Ulster council have no problem holding their showpiece at headquarters. I think whats most important is to ensure an even playing filed for both teams contesting the final. This would be the case in all other counties. To me it seems absurd that the best team and one of the best of all time is constantly given extra assistance in this way in the big games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 25, 2008, 11:51:11 AM
ok lads we have the anti group campaigning for the final not to be held in cross. Then  we have the cross contingent saying that there was no alternative and they were obliged to host club finals  :D which they just happened to be in. :D . Simply solution lads the cross should refuse to play the final at home ( I hear they are good at refusing things they don't like) Force the county board into making a decision for once in their useless life . If they choose to bring it outside the county then they would be exposed for being the laughing stock they were. Bottom line, Cross would have finally taken a stand on something the other clubs would agree on. As a result Cross would be blamless and free to play the finals ( even go for 13 in a row) and the other teams would have no gripes whatsoever about where the final were to be played.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 25, 2008, 12:25:53 PM
WIN SAM SOON

You used to talk a bit of sense.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 25, 2008, 12:27:59 PM
Whats wrong with what hes saying ceasefire?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 25, 2008, 12:30:30 PM
TO ULADH

Six county finals plus 8 Ulster club games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 25, 2008, 01:23:38 PM
Six county finals is a bit crazy. There is not doubt playing the final in Cross gives them a massive advantage and I don't think BC would deny that. But it is the fault of the county board. One - other grounds could have held the games and two - The Atlethic ground being unusable.

I don't see what would be so embarrasing about playing the final in the marshes when we have had the emabarrasemnt of playing our home Championship county games in Clones for the last decade.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 25, 2008, 01:24:26 PM
Hopefully this will be a problem consigned to the history books this year lads and wel have our own facility which is fair to all clubs. Not only will the athletic grounds be no teams 'home' pitch but it is also idealy located so as its fair to all sections of the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 25, 2008, 01:24:55 PM
Its total brute ignorance that crossfire et al cannot simply admit the plain fact, that is clear to see by everyone, that playing a final in your own back yard is an advantage. To say anything else is to insult people writing on this thread and you can't really hope to be listened to with any credibility.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 25, 2008, 01:52:06 PM
Of course it is an advantage but the simple fact is that we have won consistently on probably every viable championship venue in Armagh and most of them in Ulster.  Whenever the Ogs made the final in 1998 I think it was there was no problem us playing them in the Athletics Ground, and beating them.

It is an easy to make excuses but pitches don't win games.  Neither does a referees decision.  Neither does the weather.  All these are excuses made by teams who do not win.  You either have it or you don't.  If anything for me as a player i would far rather beat a team in their own backyard and it would be a real driving force to succeed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 25, 2008, 02:20:00 PM
I agree these are excuses made by loosing teams but its also unrealistic to say that they are not factors that affect the outcomes of games. The standard of refereeing in Armagh is absolutely abysmal and we let our best team have home advantage in the biggest game in the county. Are you trying to tell me Man Utd wouldnt be at an advantage if the Champions league final was in Old Trafford and Roy Keane was refereeing? :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Surreal Steve on April 25, 2008, 02:23:02 PM
Brokencrossbar1, you sound like a gay.

How much did the brits pay use anyway? Not sure how it worked out, was there an overall contribution to the club or did every member/player get a lump sum? Is it possible your still on her majesty's payroll?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 25, 2008, 02:40:03 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 25, 2008, 02:20:00 PM
I agree these are excuses made by loosing teams but its also unrealistic to say that they are not factors that affect the outcomes of games. The standard of refereeing in Armagh is absolutely abysmal and we let our best team have home advantage in the biggest game in the county. Are you trying to tell me Man Utd wouldnt be at an advantage if the Champions league final was in Old Trafford and Roy Keane was refereeing? :D

I am not saying it is not an advantage, but lets face it is an easy get out clause for some.  The simple fact is that Cross have had too much class for about 90% of the teams in Ireland over the last decade and I think they will continue to do so in Armagh for another few years.

Surreal Steve what is you problem, first the Liverpool thread and now here, have you some defect in your head?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 25, 2008, 02:47:17 PM
No one is denying Cross's credentials BC. You don't win x amount of championships through luck or anything else.

Do you admit that it is unfair, and frankly unacceptable for any team beit Cross, Og's or anyone in Ireland, to play a county final in their own home ground where they have been playing all their lives, have used the dressing rooms, the facilities week in, week out, have kicked thousands of points over the bar, scored hundreds of goals, they know the pitch (for want of a better phrase) like the back of their hands, i'll rap this up... do you believe this is acceptable or fair?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 25, 2008, 02:50:43 PM
So your a Cross man and a Scouser brokeback1 - there is just no way we are ever gonna get on is there! :D Cross have had too much class your dead right. No arguments whatsoever and yes it is a gripe by those who that annoys the most. But that doesnt mean its not a genuine worry for teams. The fact that Cross dont need any help in finals is what bugs people. Its hard enough to beat them on any pitch but on their own - a step too far for most teams in Ireland as you said. Bellaghy aside of course.  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 25, 2008, 02:55:34 PM
I agree it should be played at a neutral venue and if there was one available then let it be played there.  It wouldn't matter to me or anyone else who has played for Cross where a game is played.  The reality is I believe that all things being equal, Cross are capable of continuing the run they are on in Armagh for a few years yet, no matter where the games are played.  The final should be somewhere else and it is incumbent on the Armagh Board to sort that out, not Cross. 

As for Bellaghy, they may have beaten us, but they never won that year, so it was all in vain.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 25, 2008, 03:08:24 PM
Maybe it wasnt Bellaghy beat yous - maybe it was the blue in their jersey. ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 25, 2008, 03:09:55 PM
Dromintee?  Clans? St Gall's?  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Surreal Steve on April 25, 2008, 03:22:10 PM
its surprising cross have won that many trophies considering, ya know, theyre all insestuous.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 25, 2008, 03:26:28 PM
Quote from: Surreal Steve on April 25, 2008, 03:22:10 PM
its surprising cross have won that many trophies considering, ya know, theyre all insestuous.


At least get the spelling right if you are going to insult somone!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 25, 2008, 03:29:31 PM
Basically it was a bad decision to allow county finals to be played at Cross - they should have been moved to somewhere like Newry (but of course the County board dint want the embarassment). However the liklehood is that Cross would have won each county final in Newry, Blayney, Crossmaglen or Cork.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 25, 2008, 03:34:10 PM
Quote from: Surreal Steve on April 25, 2008, 03:22:10 PM
its surprising cross have won that many trophies considering, ya know, theyre all insestuous.


:D :D ;D ;D :D :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 25, 2008, 04:00:10 PM
This is a simple argument lads, All we are saying is that the final gis an extra inch advantage to cross. We are not attributing the success of Cross to this but even the purists will admit the advantage like Broken has done. I have already said that no blame should lie with the cross which brings us back to our old friend the county board. They are to blame and no one else. But not to admit the home pitch gives some form of advantage is laughable from a non cross perspective. If we were fortunate enough to reach the county final i would snap at the chance for the final to be played in Davitt park as would any team in their home pitch. Just for the record in 06' we offered to toss a coin for home venue with cross for the final, our friends again in the the county board rejected the offer. Game i Cross, the result is another stat  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on April 25, 2008, 05:53:25 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 25, 2008, 01:24:26 PM
Hopefully this will be a problem consigned to the history books this year lads and wel have our own facility which is fair to all clubs. Not only will the athletic grounds be no teams 'home' pitch but it is also idealy located so as its fair to all sections of the county.

Maybe you have the insight so as to get the Buckie boys to stop firing their broken bottles onto the pathetic grounds then.  Isn't that why the county stopped training on it as one of them got a massive gash in 2006.
Facts are lads, it's all to do with health & safety were the matches are played, no matter what the county board says or does.  Maybe all the anti-Cross brigade should setup a thread and direct their venom toward them....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 25, 2008, 05:55:20 PM
QuoteMaybe all the anti-Cross brigade should setup a thread and direct their venom toward them....

And this thread is for what exactly?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 25, 2008, 06:30:27 PM
Maybe someone should state then whether they are anti cross or not???? ffs this is starting to becoming daft.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 25, 2008, 06:34:28 PM
By all accounts this years County final will be in the Athletic Grounds which i would welcome wholeheartedly.

Perhaps it will put an end to the griping but i am sure the begrudgers will find something else to gripe about

But if Cross are in this years County final you can bet your life on it that we will win it.

Whatever chance any team has of beating Cross in the 2008 championship it will not be in the final.

Since 1996 Cross have played in 24 finals

Won 22 ...... Drew 2 ...... Lost 0.

Get real lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 25, 2008, 06:40:14 PM
Health and safety reasons were stated by goh and others for the final being in cross. Why then, could somebody tell me were these so important rules allowed to slide for semi finals?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 25, 2008, 06:40:39 PM
QuoteBy all accounts this years County final will be in the Athletic Grounds which i would welcome wholeheartedly.

Perhaps it will put an end to the griping but i am sure the begrudgers will find something else to gripe about

But if Cross are in this years County final you can bet your life on it that we will win it.

Whatever chance any team has of beating Cross in the 2008 championship it will not be in the final.

Since 1996 Cross have played in 24 finals

Won 22 ...... Drew 2 ...... Lost 0.

Get real lads.

Munster hadn't lost a game in Thomond Park for a decade but Leicester came and beat them last year. These records inevitably get broken eventually.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on April 25, 2008, 07:27:12 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on April 25, 2008, 06:40:14 PM
Health and safety reasons were stated by goh and others for the final being in cross. Why then, could somebody tell me were these so important rules allowed to slide for semi finals?

It's all to do with the expected crowd attending..  I know someone who knows the health & safety office who inspected the ground for the 2006 final when Dromintee kicked had reservations about home advantage and quite simply they were told that there was no other pitch in Armagh that could facilitate the expected crowd.  The options were Newry or Clones, which the county board wouldn't allow as it would have been seen as an embarrassment upon the county..

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on April 25, 2008, 07:29:02 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 25, 2008, 05:55:20 PM
QuoteMaybe all the anti-Cross brigade should setup a thread and direct their venom toward them....

And this thread is for what exactly?

Armagh Club football & hurling ,not anti club hatred chap!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tyroneman on April 25, 2008, 09:35:06 PM
Just back from watching Clann Eireann v the Tones as I happened to be in Lurgan tonight. 2 very average teams although Clann Eireann can feel rightly aggrieved not to have at least drawn this match.

Referee gave most decisions to the visiors including a highly controversial  winning point at the death where one umpire (Tones) signalled point and the other (CE) wide. Draw would have been fair enough to be honest.

Ryan Henderson starred for the home side kicking a lovely point off Moriarity (Amragh starter - yeah right) to level late on.

Whoever missed the goal chance in the 2nd half for Clann Eireann should be ashamed of themselves - they were so close to the open net you would swear they kicked it back out again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 25, 2008, 09:44:57 PM
THINK HENDERSON SCORED ALL CLANN EIREANN POINTS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 26, 2008, 04:46:47 PM
henderson is only dangerous when playing in the full forward line. dont understand why clann eireann are playing him at right half forward. talking to a tones man today and he said they were happy seeing him line out at number 10 but he was a real danger when moved inside.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 27, 2008, 11:05:18 AM
The guy that missed the open goal was james Burns aka county panellists on the armagh county panel a few years back. Remember he came on as a sub in the Armagh/ derry Ulster final and gave the ball away to a derry man. Then big anthony stepped up with the free and put it wide. But anyone can miss an open net  :D lads it wouldn't be a hanging offence.

Anyway it looks like a great day for the gaelic today lads. get your money on Derry to beay Kerry @5/2. The harps lads, now don't be crying when the blues beat ya's today in the league  ;) Up the clans.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on April 27, 2008, 03:33:51 PM
Clann Eireann beat An Portmor by 3. Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 27, 2008, 03:51:10 PM
Cullyhanna 0-14 Dromintee 0-09.

Good, clean game of football. Dromintee played well in the first and led 7-5 at the turn. Cullyhanna kicked some lovely scores in the second and were well worth the win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 27, 2008, 03:59:50 PM
just home from the tones bridge game tones won by a point.  the ref(jimmy me kee) didnt do us any favours.  we shot ourselves in the foot as we didnr relase the ball into the forwards early despite conor coleman and finn mo dominating midfield. 

bridge a decent side with some dangerous forwards.  thought number 5(stefan..?) had a good game for the bridge 2


Title: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 27, 2008, 04:06:24 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 27, 2008, 03:59:50 PM
just home from the tones bridge game tones won by a point.  the ref(jimmy me kee) didnt do us any favours.  we shot ourselves in the foot as we didnr relase the ball into the forwards early despite conor coleman and finn mo dominating midfield. 

bridge a decent side with some dangerous forwards.  thought number 5(stefan..?) had a good game for the bridge 2


Stefan Murphy.

f**k it anyway, you must be happy with the improvment from last year Charlie?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on April 27, 2008, 04:08:51 PM
we will be doing well if we win 1 game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on April 27, 2008, 04:21:40 PM
Are Armagh playing at Clann Eireann next week or am I just talking shit??!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 27, 2008, 04:27:18 PM
Playin Wexford on the 4th.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 27, 2008, 04:34:54 PM
Cross and Ogs drew

Terrible referee

Balyhegan 2-11  Cross ll 0-11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 27, 2008, 05:15:19 PM
aye pints a good start but its a marathon not a sprint!!magill has made a big difference as there is respect for the management and discipline where there wasnt before.we wuld have lost that game last year without doubt, i rememeber yous scored a last minute goal 2 win by 2!have 2 win hom,e games in the division something we couldnt do last year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 27, 2008, 05:40:33 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on April 27, 2008, 04:08:51 PM
we will be doing well if we win 1 game

yous will have a big chance against cruppen. beat by 3 at home to tir na nog and should have been 12. f**king pathetic.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on April 27, 2008, 05:45:42 PM
Was at the Cullyhanna Dromintee game. Great match and a good win for st Pats again in front of a big crowd.Once again Malachy Mackin at midfield made a big impact on the game along with Barry Mc Conville who kicked three excellent points from play. In fairness to dromintee they missed Aidan O Rourke and Baryy shannon from their defence and Gareth O Neill but St pats ciut through in the second hallf to hit some great scores from play. Thought that Martin O Rourke played too deep to make an impact on the game that that Michel O Rourke and to a lesser extent in the first half the full forward( Conor Gaskin?) were ther only major threat. For Cullyhanna a the concession of a number of silly frees in the first half were well punished by i thought that defence tightened up well in the second half and Paidi Mc Creesh got down the field overlapping as well to take a good score. Forwards apart from Eugene Casey (who was magnificent throughout and must have scored 8 points at least three from play) were poor in the first half  but came into it well in the second half. Young Ciaran O Neill in particular and Paidi Mackin done well and won good ball and took good scores. Six out of eight for a young Cullyhanna side but a big test awaits next week against hopefully a full strength cross team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 27, 2008, 06:08:18 PM
cruppen struggling badly at min qub.3 points from 8??thought tey where the team to beat though it is early doors
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 27, 2008, 07:57:15 PM
Mullaghbawn 1.11
Killeavy 1.05

Good game of football on a very impressive new pitch....Mullaghbawn led the majority of the game and were in control throughout the second half, with Young eugene Mcverry very impressive at corner forward (17 Yr Old) - a def star of the future and a big armagh prospect...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 27, 2008, 07:59:23 PM
What is wrong with Killeavy?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on April 27, 2008, 08:05:26 PM
pints i think you can add ourselves to the end of killeavy!!!!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on April 27, 2008, 08:07:44 PM
keady bt whitecross by 1point,ref was mcconville frm lurgan-had a good game,better than most refs

heard dromintee players fell out with their committe bout philly loughran jooinin them,most of the players wantd him but one r 2and committee didnt
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 27, 2008, 08:15:27 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on April 27, 2008, 08:05:26 PM
pints i think you can add ourselves to the end of killeavy!!!!

I think yous will come ok but Killeavy need to start picking up points very quickly or they're going to have no chance, I can't believe they've gone back so far since last year. 

I'm dissapointed with our own poor start but there's a long way to go yet.

Whitecross is another mystery. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 27, 2008, 09:34:25 PM
Quote from: altovito on April 27, 2008, 08:07:44 PM

heard dromintee players fell out with their committe bout philly loughran jooinin them,most of the players wantd him but one r 2and committee didnt
dunno where you heard that from? But theres no truth in it. Cullyhanna looked pretty good today against an understrength Dromintee side, cant see st. Pats having much problem staying up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 27, 2008, 10:20:26 PM
Clans drew with the harps today. a disgraceful refereeing performance by ronan quigley. Over ruled the harps and clans umpire twice giving the harps a point on both occassions when the ball was clearly wide. He then continued to give the harps scorable free kicks when they were clearly 50 /50 challenges. The clans had enough possesion in the first half to win by 10 points but didn't take their chances but the second half refereeing was absolutely disgraceful. This has to stop referees are robbing teams of results for i don't know what reason. That man should never be able to ref a clans game again. Even the harps lads were laughing at some of the decisions he was making. If we had refs like that on our side we would win the all Ireland.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 27, 2008, 10:31:15 PM
QuoteThat man should never be able to ref a clans game again.

Sure clans would have no one allowed to ref their games if that approach was taken.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on April 27, 2008, 10:44:46 PM
madden and bellecks drewe tonight!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 27, 2008, 11:00:18 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 27, 2008, 10:20:26 PM
That man should never be able to ref a clans game again.

other clubs have the same opinion. i think cross underage teams make a point of not playing if mr quigley is due to referee any of their games because the result is a foregone conclusion. not 100% but i thought i heard that the cross minors left the field once quigley arrived last monday night to referee a game. he's an awful man!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 27, 2008, 11:07:15 PM
QuoteWas at the Cullyhanna Dromintee game. Great match and a good win for st Pats again in front of a big crowd.Once again Malachy Mackin at midfield made a big impact on the game along with Barry Mc Conville who kicked three excellent points from play. In fairness to dromintee they missed Aidan O Rourke and Baryy shannon from their defence and Gareth O Neill but St pats ciut through in the second hallf to hit some great scores from play. Thought that Martin O Rourke played too deep to make an impact on the game that that Michel O Rourke and to a lesser extent in the first half the full forward( Conor Gaskin?) were ther only major threat. For Cullyhanna a the concession of a number of silly frees in the first half were well punished by i thought that defence tightened up well in the second half and Paidi Mc Creesh got down the field overlapping as well to take a good score. Forwards apart from Eugene Casey (who was magnificent throughout and must have scored 8 points at least three from play) were poor in the first half  but came into it well in the second half. Young Ciaran O Neill in particular and Paidi Mackin done well and won good ball and took good scores. Six out of eight for a young Cullyhanna side but a big test awaits next week against hopefully a full strength cross team.

Aye the fullforward for Dromintee was Conor Gaskin. Superb result for St Pat's. Really came into it after a shaky opening and played some brilliant football for 15 or 20 minutes at the start of the second half. Bit disappointed in Dromintee - thought they offered little enough threat from play and were relying a lot on Miceal O'Rourke. Great display from the St Pat's midfield - Mal Mackin is having a superb season so far and Barry kicked a few great points. Eugene Casey was excellent - kicked some great scores and, as you point out, Paidi McCreesh got a geat score in the second half, similar to the 2 he got last week. Our half backs provide a real threat going forward and it was encouraging how much breaking ball we won. Thought the full forward line was our quitest sector but it was a great team performance.

All set for the Rangers next week, definetly be a step up but the important thing is that the great start has easied any relegation worries for the timebeing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 28, 2008, 07:53:01 AM
Quote from: doire na raithe on April 27, 2008, 09:34:25 PM
Quote from: altovito on April 27, 2008, 08:07:44 PM

heard dromintee players fell out with their committe bout philly loughran jooinin them,most of the players wantd him but one r 2and committee didnt
dunno where you heard that from? But theres no truth in it. Cullyhanna looked pretty good today against an understrength Dromintee side, cant see st. Pats having much problem staying up.

what was the dromintee starting 15 DnR?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on April 28, 2008, 08:44:55 AM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 27 APRIL 2008

Monday 21 April

ACL – Division Four
Dorsey Emmett's 1-11; Clady 1-3


Wednesday 23 April

ACL – Division Three
Clonmore 3-13; Grange 1-9


Friday 25 April

ACL – Division Two
Clann Eireann 0-12; Wolfe Tones 0-13


Saturday 26 April

ACL – Division Four
Shane O'Neill's 2-15; O'Hanlon's 0-9


Sunday 27 April

ACL – Division One
St Patrick's 0-14; Dromintee 0-9
Harps 0-10; Clan na Gael 1-7
Killeavey 1-5; Mullaghbawn 1-11
Crossmaglen 1-6; Pearse Og 0-9
Culloville v Maghery (Off)

ACL – Division Two
An Port Mor 2-7; Clann Eireann 2-10
Carrickcruppen 0-10; Tir na nÓg 1-10
St Michael's 1-10; Sarsfields 0-7
Wolfe Tones 1-11; Silverbridge 1-10
Keady 1-9; Whitecross 2-5
Granemore 0-16; Ballymacnab 0-7

ACL – Division Three
Tullysaran 1-8; St Paul's 2-7
Madden 0-7; Belleek 0-7
Annaghmore 0-11; Clonmore 1-10
Crossmaglen II 0-12; Ballyhegan 2-12
St Peter's 1-4; Collegeland 1-8
Grange 1-11; Lissummon 0-14

ACL – Division Four
Corrinshego v Middletown (Off)
Mullaghbrack 0-7; Forkhill 4-9
Clady 0-14; Eire Og 3-8
Derrynoose 3-10; Dorsey Emmett's 0-6
Bye – Phelim Brady's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 28, 2008, 09:08:20 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 27, 2008, 10:31:15 PM
QuoteThat man should never be able to ref a clans game again.

Sure clans would have no one allowed to ref their games if that approach was taken.
#
you would know alot about it pints- you fool
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on April 28, 2008, 09:12:54 AM
Good win for Tir Na Nog at Carrickcruppen yesterday, (always a dfifficult ground)and the 3 points margin flattered Carrickcruppen as The Ogs were 6 clear with only a couple of minutes to go and the referee payed ast least 5 minutes overtime to ty and get Cruppen a goal ;D

It was also good to see The Right Honourable Conor Murphy MP in attendance with jeans, trainer and bicycle which he kept a firm grip on, in case it was nicked presumably ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 28, 2008, 09:25:54 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 27, 2008, 10:20:26 PM
Clans drew with the harps today. a disgraceful refereeing performance by ronan quigley. Over ruled the harps and clans umpire twice giving the harps a point on both occassions when the ball was clearly wide. He then continued to give the harps scorable free kicks when they were clearly 50 /50 challenges. The clans had enough possesion in the first half to win by 10 points but didn't take their chances but the second half refereeing was absolutely disgraceful. This has to stop referees are robbing teams of results for i don't know what reason. That man should never be able to ref a clans game again. Even the harps lads were laughing at some of the decisions he was making. If we had refs like that on our side we would win the all Ireland.
Must have been at a different game than you.  Thought the ref was poor for us as well.  Notice you didn't mention him overruling the umpire when a Harps goal was disallowed, Jim MCKerr was acting the maggot as umpire and you've some neck claiming 2 pts were 'wide' with that clown 'umpiring'.

Harps were brutal in the first,gifted Clans a goal with poor defending, Clans did miss a bagful.  Harps played excellent in the second and had more than enough chances to win the game clearly, clans got up the field about 3 times in the 2nd half and got 3 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 28, 2008, 09:55:04 AM
Benny i don't know what you are smoking son but if you could share it with the rest of us we would be grateful. Jim Mc Kerr was only umpiring at one end when the ref over ruled a wide he gave which was wide. The other two umpires at the top end gave a wide and he over ruled  both of them on two occassions giving points. The harps did  have a lot more possession in the second half but all your scores came from free kicks. I would say maybe one or two of them were legit. When a defender clearly goes up and punches the ball out it can't be a free in. Plus he gave a free againt Marsden on the harps 21 for laying the ball of and going for a return, the harps guy took him out of the game and the free out was given  :D That was comical. He also gave another free against marsden for lifting it of the ground which he did. The free was taken and the harps players clearly lifted it of the ground and got another scorable free in. The goal was not over te line and this is why is wasn't given the harps umpire gave it only after the harps no 15 goaded him into it by shouting at him and threatening our other umpire. Granted Quigley then began to give a few sloopy frees to the clans but they were no were near the scoring distance. Again an absolute disgrace. Oh and pints you can keep your wee snide comments to yourself, the clans have no problem with any ref if they do the game correctly. Even if a ref is bad we have no problem aslong as he is equally as bad for both sides. It is no coincidence that this guys name keeps appearing as a pudding.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 28, 2008, 10:51:21 AM
Quote from: qub la la la on April 27, 2008, 11:00:18 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 27, 2008, 10:20:26 PM
That man should never be able to ref a clans game again.

other clubs have the same opinion. i think cross underage teams make a point of not playing if mr quigley is due to referee any of their games because the result is a foregone conclusion. not 100% but i thought i heard that the cross minors left the field once quigley arrived last monday night to referee a game. he's an awful man!


I can understand why. An absolute disgrace of a performance. He basically decided that he wasnt allowing the Clans to win that game. To their credit they snatched a draw. What annoyed me most is that he ruined a very open and enjoyable game on a lovely day for football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 28, 2008, 10:58:03 AM
in all honesty do you not think the Harps had every opportunity to win it in the 2nd half??? think you's only got 2/3 scores in that period?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 28, 2008, 10:59:28 AM
I have to comment here. I think Quigly was pathetic yesterday and it's nothing to with the Harps, he was so bad it wasn't funny. He blew clans up twice for lifting of the ground (fair enough) but the Harps done it as well straight after and were not blew up for it and they got Pt's from it. Now Mr Quigly realised his errors and quickly awarded frees to the Clans that clearly were not free kicks. The 1 Winsam was talking about Marsden was attacking in full flow he fisted the ball over a C Vernon's head and went to run on for the 1-2 he was obstructed by Vernon and Marsden got booked for it and a free to the Harps (explain that 1).

Harps were winning by a point in injury time and Quigly gave a free to the Clans to equalise that never was a free, IMHO i believe this clown goes out to be the centre of attention in the games he does and thats not right just let the 2 teams get on with it and do the thing 50/50. I am in know way taking anything away from the Harps as they def put in a better 2nd half display and they also got decisions against them that were wrong including the equalising point at the death.

the problem with some of theses ref's are they so arrogant and try to talk down to you. If a guy spoke to me out in the street they way some ref's speak to you on the pitch I'd knock their block off.

P.S. i know he had to listen to some fools on the line but that should not make any difference to his decisions as a foul is a free no matter what is shouted from the sidelines or crowds...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on April 28, 2008, 11:29:14 AM
That is an honest enough assessment of the match there ILLDECIDE. Clans were best in 1st half - Harps best in 2nd. Few mysterious decisions from ref alright. Maybe we should just say that a draw was a fair result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 28, 2008, 11:33:38 AM
There is no point in trying to defend RG, pints.
Illdecide got it right when he said he is a clown (although that is putting it a bit mild)
He talks down to everyone & indeed has to be the centre of attention
Its not the first time someone has mentioned him on the board - everyone cant be wrong ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 28, 2008, 11:37:21 AM
Quote from: Candyman on April 28, 2008, 10:58:03 AM
in all honesty do you not think the Harps had every opportunity to win it in the 2nd half??? think you's only got 2/3 scores in that period?


I was at that Harps Clans Match and to be honest the Harps are a very poor team- in fact i do think the worst in division 1 and will struggle to stay there and the lads are right i have never seen a worst refeering disply in all my days
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 28, 2008, 11:52:51 AM
I agree with most of whats being said and indeed the fact that the Clans only had a few attacks in the second period but answer me this lads - how many scores did the Harps get from play in the match? Id say 1 or 2. Given this fact how many of their scores came from dubious decisions? I dont think a draw was a fair reslut I think Clans were value for the win because although yer man Quigley was poor for both teams the majority of bad decisions were against the Clans and in scorable positions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on April 28, 2008, 12:00:02 PM
Any word what happened in the Middletown match?  Heard it was abondoned near the end for fighting!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 28, 2008, 12:05:43 PM
The Clans position is done no favours by the fact that idiots (illdecide aside) represent them on here.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 28, 2008, 12:21:27 PM
Get your dick out of 'illdecide' - im not sure what match he was at yesterday but it wasnt the one that I witnessed!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 28, 2008, 12:22:49 PM
Quote from: Uladh on April 28, 2008, 07:53:01 AM

what was the dromintee starting 15 DnR?
where you not at it uladh? Team was: s. McCoy, c. Mcguiness, m. McGahon, c. White, s. Fearon, b. McArdle, c. O'Neill, s. O'Neill, v. Martin, marty O'Rourke, k. Fearon, r. McCoy, o. Gaughran, c. Gaskin, mick O'Rourke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 28, 2008, 12:27:13 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 28, 2008, 12:05:43 PM
The Clans position is done no favours by the fact that idiots (illdecide aside) represent them on here.

comimg out with a statement like that- is free speech not allowed- i think you wil find most of the clans lads are players or have played - were as you i would say some up most of the fools on sites like this i.e who have never kicked a oneills in their lifes-

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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 28, 2008, 01:08:54 PM
Disappointed with the draw yesterday against cross.  cross scored a goal in the opening 5 minutes. we came back at them and went in the at the  break 0-6 to 1-1.  cross opened up with 3 points unanswered straight into the second half.  we chased to game from then on and fought well to come back for the draw.  final score 1-6 to 0-9  :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 28, 2008, 01:11:11 PM
Was it a good game? I was considering going to that on only Cross is too far away.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 28, 2008, 01:14:27 PM
FFS calm down winsam, if I wanted to make a snide remark I'd do worse than that.
gaapunter isn't to be taken seriously.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 28, 2008, 01:20:54 PM
I agree - while I admire his undoubted enthusiasm for his team :) alot of what he says is rash and wide of the mark. I think he must wear blue tinted glasses. :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 28, 2008, 01:26:34 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 28, 2008, 01:11:11 PM
Was it a good game? I was considering going to that on only Cross is too far away.

The game was played at a very high tempo.  It was very much like championship pace.  A good game I have to say.  Oisin and the ref exchanged a few insults both calling each other w*"kers and the ref saying oisin was a slabber.  If it had been anyone else I'd say he'd of got the line.  but it was actually hilarious to see at the time  ;D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 28, 2008, 01:30:02 PM
Who was the ref el?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 28, 2008, 01:32:44 PM
Quote from: full back on April 28, 2008, 01:30:02 PM
Who was the ref el?

Gary smith
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 28, 2008, 01:50:54 PM
Its a pity Gary didnt line him. He thinks hes above all authority. Well come to think of it he was playing for Cross in Cross so he prob was above all authority.  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 28, 2008, 01:52:04 PM
In fairness Gary Smith is a w*nker :P 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 28, 2008, 02:00:12 PM
Now now there is some abuse flying around now. I would near have said if oisin wanted to take it off the pitch gary would have knocked his melt in. I don't think Gary is the worst he will generally let the game go from what i have seen. But that's only my opinion.

So Benny you think all the clans folk on here bar i'll decide are all idiots???. So are you saying this is why referees cannot do their jobs properly?? Surely referees should enter games as impartial with no vendetta's and call the game how they see it.  Calling people idiots is very mature and a great way to get across your argument well done benny.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 28, 2008, 02:02:58 PM
I thought that would awaken some of our Cross friends! :D :D In Fairness they were both right in what they were sayning. ;D However if you or me call a ref a w**ker, we're watching from the sidelines for a month son. Thats the difference.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 28, 2008, 02:03:50 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 28, 2008, 02:00:12 PM
Now now there is some abuse flying around now. I would near have said if oisin wanted to take it off the pitch gary would have knocked his melt in. I don't think Gary is the worst he will generally let the game go from what i have seen. But that's only my opinion.

I'd say Gary would have loved that alright.  I heard he came be game for an oul scrap


Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 28, 2008, 01:52:04 PM
In fairness Gary Smith is a w*nker :P 
:D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 28, 2008, 02:17:13 PM
Club games moved to 6pm on Sunday to facilitate Armagh game in Clann Eireann Park.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 28, 2008, 02:26:03 PM
Great the bank holiday weekend is ruined for players again. Sure what do players matter! And your right 'el' Gary can be game for a scrap alright.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 28, 2008, 02:39:13 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on April 28, 2008, 12:22:49 PM
where you not at it uladh? Team was: s. McCoy, c. Mcguiness, m. McGahon, c. White, s. Fearon, b. McArdle, c. O'Neill, s. O'Neill, v. Martin, marty O'Rourke, k. Fearon, r. McCoy, o. Gaughran, c. Gaskin, mick O'Rourke
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No just wondering about who might have been unaviailable given the rumours.

strong enough forward line. never heard if c white and the two wing backs would hardly be first reserve. off the top of my head i'd can see 5 missing. were they injured?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laughinpaddy on April 28, 2008, 04:07:08 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 28, 2008, 10:59:28 AM
I have to comment here. I think Quigly was pathetic yesterday and it's nothing to with the Harps, he was so bad it wasn't funny. He blew clans up twice for lifting of the ground (fair enough) but the Harps done it as well straight after and were not blew up for it and they got Pt's from it. Now Mr Quigly realised his errors and quickly awarded frees to the Clans that clearly were not free kicks. The 1 Winsam was talking about Marsden was attacking in full flow he fisted the ball over a C Vernon's head and went to run on for the 1-2 he was obstructed by Vernon and Marsden got booked for it and a free to the Harps (explain that 1).


P.S. i know he had to listen to some fools on the line but that should not make any difference to his decisions as a foul is a free no matter what is shouted from the sidelines or crowds...

In fairness that free was given because when Marsden was trying to get past vernon he grabbed him by the jersey to pull him aside, not a booking offence but would be deemed a free in my book.  as for the slabbering on the sidelines it was nothing compared to wot was witnessed in the stands i took my son (8 yr old) to the game and some of the insults from both supporters were x rated to say the least and that was towards there 'own' team.  The ref defo. wasnt gud for either team as some might say the Clans goal came from a push in the back tho the Harps did get some easier decisions in the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on April 28, 2008, 04:37:54 PM
Did bumpy o'hagan break his leg in training the other night or is that just a rumour.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 28, 2008, 04:41:40 PM
It was S Egan not C White Uladh.

Yeah quite a few injuries (not taking away from Cullyhanna as Liam OHare was not fit.)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 28, 2008, 05:07:34 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 28, 2008, 04:37:54 PM
Did bumpy o'hagan break his leg in training the other night or is that just a rumour.

Rumor
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 28, 2008, 05:34:04 PM
Quote...."Club games moved to 6pm on Sunday to facilitate Armagh game in Clann Eireann Park."

Are you sure it's not to facilitate Cross. !!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on April 28, 2008, 05:37:44 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 28, 2008, 04:41:40 PM
It was S Egan not C White Uladh.

Yeah quite a few injuries (not taking away from Cullyhanna as Liam OHare was not fit.)

I knew i got something wrong there. Yeah the obvious absences were injured.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 28, 2008, 06:00:56 PM
Yeah paddy it would make sense for marsden to pull his man aside when we were bearing down on goal at least we were getting was a point  :D. It would however make sense for vernon to step into his way and check him from getting back on the end of the ball. I aint saying marsden then did'nt pull him down but the original foul was a body check on marsden and not a free out. If you were taking your view on it, it would be a hop ball at most. That about bumpy is a rumour he definetly didn't break his leg at training the other night. Paddy that slabbering and mouthing is wrong and certainly should never go on especially when kids are present. We can all get hot tempered but when kids are around you restrain your mouth. I have witnessed it myself and it is part of the day that can be really embarassing and sets a bad example for the kids. Especially when it is women doing it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on April 28, 2008, 06:04:29 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on April 28, 2008, 05:37:44 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 28, 2008, 04:41:40 PM
It was S Egan not C White Uladh.

Yeah quite a few injuries (not taking away from Cullyhanna as Liam OHare was not fit.)

I knew i got something wrong there. Yeah the obvious absences were injured.

ok. never heard of egan either?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 28, 2008, 06:10:30 PM
Quote from: crossfire on April 28, 2008, 05:34:04 PM
Quote...."Club games moved to 6pm on Sunday to facilitate Armagh game in Clann Eireann Park."

Are you sure it's not to facilitate Cross. !!!


Of course its to facilitate Cross - otherwise they would have been played on the Fri night!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 28, 2008, 06:22:50 PM
Egan is 16 or something, maybe 17 and White is 18 I think. Two young steady players that should be very good in a few years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on April 28, 2008, 07:45:05 PM
Barry O'Hagan broke his ankle in training on Thursday night. Clearly there are some Clans men on here trying to hide the fact that their season is soon to go down the pan without him...

Also I would like to point out that from my view in the stand, and clearly everyone except winsam's, that Nippy's point in the first half that the referee gave was in fact given as a point by both umpires, and not a wide by both as some here have claimed. In the 2nd half, Nippy's 2nd point, I would take the opinion of a referee standing in line with the ball going between the posts over an umpire standing at the foot of the post, particularly when the ball is so high. Interesting to note that any Clans player in line with the free or anywhere near in line did not protest when the referee gave the point.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on April 28, 2008, 08:18:29 PM
I heard about Bumpy at training lastnite from one of our players who's cousin plays for the clans.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 28, 2008, 08:44:19 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 28, 2008, 05:07:34 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 28, 2008, 04:37:54 PM
Did bumpy o'hagan break his leg in training the other night or is that just a rumour.

Rumor

Are you telling porkies illdecide??
Did he break something?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on April 28, 2008, 09:12:18 PM
saw bumpy at harps game and hes on crutches,so has obviously done some harm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 29, 2008, 12:33:52 AM
The question ask was did he break his leg and the answer given was no. He didn't break his leg. Ask the right questions get the right answers. Imagine our season is going down the pan and it took 15 harps players and a ref to get a draw with us, that says a lot for the chances of the harps. Nashville what you are saying is that you would take the view of a ref 40 yards away rather than an umpire standing beside the post it went past  :D :D (classic) Our players didn't protest because what was the point. There would have been yellow cards undoubtedly shown by Quigley and probably would have given more soft frees to the harps as a result of it. Lads call a spade a spade if i am at a game and the ref gives us some handy frees in scoring positions i will say so. The facts are there to be seen the harps scored 10 points and about 8 of them came from free kicks. Now our defence was by no means physical and certainly never gave away the 8  (scoring)frees quigley gave. The free for our equalizer was handy i can hold the hands up to that but it was well overdue. Someone even mentioned the goal  being a push in the back. I find this hard when the defender was actually behind young soup (how then could he push him from behind when he was in front of him?? perhaps the laws of physics cease to exist on abbey park  ;)) He used the old ass to nudge back into the defender which if you watch Donaghy it is perfectly legal. He then broke the ball and Bagged it past willy .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 29, 2008, 09:19:53 AM
Quote from: full back on April 28, 2008, 08:44:19 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 28, 2008, 05:07:34 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 28, 2008, 04:37:54 PM
Did bumpy o'hagan break his leg in training the other night or is that just a rumour.

Rumor

Are you telling porkies illdecide??
Did he break something?

No not telling porkies. The question was "did he break his leg?" and the answer is "No" if he had asked did he break his ankle then i would have said yes. I'm surprised it stopped him from playing on Sunday :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on April 29, 2008, 11:25:37 AM
illdecide - Is Ronan Austin back playing yet. Do you play for the seniors?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on April 29, 2008, 12:04:45 PM
the clans lads are taking some stick in here now  ;)     although most of it well deserved :o  they are very arrogant people, only a couple of weeks ago they were talking bout challenging cross for the championship, after all they were beat by a tirnanog team that only got 3 points in div 1 last year  ;D ;D  clans come a few grades below the cross championship side. pearse og the only side with realistic chance in next few years...  think clans are still living in the 80's ;D although i do agree with other posters i'll decide is the only one with any sense..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on April 29, 2008, 12:13:34 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 29, 2008, 12:33:52 AM
The question ask was did he break his leg and the answer given was no. He didn't break his leg. Ask the right questions get the right answers. Imagine our season is going down the pan and it took 15 harps players and a ref to get a draw with us, that says a lot for the chances of the harps. Nashville what you are saying is that you would take the view of a ref 40 yards away rather than an umpire standing beside the post it went past  :D :D (classic) Our players didn't protest because what was the point. There would have been yellow cards undoubtedly shown by Quigley and probably would have given more soft frees to the harps as a result of it. Lads call a spade a spade if i am at a game and the ref gives us some handy frees in scoring positions i will say so. The facts are there to be seen the harps scored 10 points and about 8 of them came from free kicks. Now our defence was by no means physical and certainly never gave away the 8  (scoring)frees quigley gave. The free for our equalizer was handy i can hold the hands up to that but it was well overdue. Someone even mentioned the goal  being a push in the back. I find this hard when the defender was actually behind young soup (how then could he push him from behind when he was in front of him?? perhaps the laws of physics cease to exist on abbey park  ;)) He used the old ass to nudge back into the defender which if you watch Donaghy it is perfectly legal. He then broke the ball and Bagged it past willy .


you must be having a laugh - clans players not to protest :D :D :D :D
Title: Harps Celebrate 120yrs with Gala Night @ City Hotel
Post by: say nothin on April 29, 2008, 12:18:44 PM
Folks just to be aware that the Gala night on November 15th which will accommodate 640 Harps Gaels is now SOLD OUT

Congratulations to all involved which is sure to be an excellent night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 29, 2008, 02:02:31 PM
Armagh true you say clans people are very arrogant?? that statement alone is very arrogant of your good self. I don't mind taking a bit of stick on the board here if it is deserved sure i will even give the odd bit out myself. I can't see you point however about challenging for the championship. As far as i am aware no games have been played yet in the championship this year. The Tir Na Nog game was last year. So how would that have a bearing on what happens this year, the 2008 championship???. You talk about the clans living in the past  :D :D Sure everything you have said has been based on the past. As i have said before when the lads gather at the start of the year the gather to win the championship, they don't gather to become second best or also rans. Running up hills and round fields for 9 months ain't the kind of thing you do to come second. So of course we believe we can win the championship. You are calling this arrogant, then i would guess Dromintee, the ogs and many many more teams would be arrogant as they would probably share similar goals for the year. You cannot be arrogant for believing you can win something. I think you are confusing determination and arrogance.
           Fcuksake you must be some intellectual, from that whole article you took out one phrase and had a  nice wee laugh about it, well done son. never mind making valid points  to back up what you are insinuating just laugh at everything once again, well done.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on April 29, 2008, 02:05:29 PM
Quote from: armaghtrue on April 29, 2008, 12:04:45 PM
the clans lads are taking some stick in here now  ;)     although most of it well deserved :o  they are very arrogant people, only a couple of weeks ago they were talking bout challenging cross for the championship, after all they were beat by a tirnanog team that only got 3 points in div 1 last year  ;D ;D  clans come a few grades below the cross championship side. :D :D pearse og the only side with realistic chance in next few years :D :D...  think clans are still living in the 80's ;D although i do agree with other posters i'll decide is the only one with any sense..

Are you serious?

Seen Ogs in a few games last year including first round and championship final and thought they were average at best.  Doesnt say much for the rest of yous if thats the best chance.

What bout Dromintee or even Cruppen in a few years when their U21s come through or Cullyhanna when their underage teams come through.

I do admit underage success doesnt gurantee future senior success but we are talking about chances here and they would be higher up my list than a pearse Og team who struggle to kick pass a ball 30 yards at times.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 29, 2008, 02:09:45 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 29, 2008, 11:25:37 AM
illdecide - Is Ronan Austin back playing yet. Do you play for the seniors?

Yes ronan is back playing and he has 3 games under his belt so far. Me playing? i'm death, if i was the manager i wouldn't pick myself :D :D

Although i have played many games for the clans the age and bellies have caught up with me not to mention injury's ;)...

P.S. everyone thinks i'm the sensible one in the Clans :D
Title: winsam
Post by: say nothin on April 29, 2008, 02:41:05 PM
winsam - you on the dole or on long term sick??

were do u get the time to type paragraphs of shite.?
Title: Re: winsam
Post by: illdecide on April 29, 2008, 04:59:36 PM
Quote from: say nothin on April 29, 2008, 02:41:05 PM
wins am - you on the dole or on long term sick??

were do u get the time to type paragraphs of shite.?

FFS lads, we don't wanna start a slagging match here. Winsam's posts may be long but at least they're fun to read and in fairness for being a long term member his posts are minimal compared to some. I think you're name says it all "say nothin" if you have nothing to add to their debate...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 29, 2008, 05:04:02 PM
I tried for the dole several times say nothin but was rejected, Too many qualifications was the excuse i think. It is clear that if you are not on the dole then you will be soon. Obviously you haven't got the intelligence to provide a counter argument or even an opinion on the issue at hand. But this personal slagging is pathetic. I agree with i'll decide and if i am ever fortunate to bump into him at the club  i will have a laugh with him about the boys thinking he is sensible. :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on April 29, 2008, 05:56:13 PM
Winsam you seem to be quite fond of making up some statistics..so you are suggesting that the referee, standing 40 yards away from the goals, was beside Nippy when hitting the free. The ref was on the 21. Can i ask, were you in the stand for the game? Because I could see from there that Nippy's free was clearly between the posts, he hit it so high that it was higher than the post maybe that is why the umpire gave a wide, but yes, if i was in the referee's position who could clearly see that the ball was inside the post then i would take his opinion over a clans umpire at the foot of a post. You can call a spade and spade, i can too, in the 2nd half ambrose mccready gave a wide for a clans point that was clearly inside the post and the referee over-ruled him, i had no problem with that as again from the stand being behind the flight of the ball i could see it was between the posts. Standing anywhere in an gaelic ground but still in line with the flight of the ball is better than at the foot of the post for a high shot.

And these 'scoring' frees that the ref gave away, at least 3 were from 50 plus yards so they aren't necessarily scoring, the took a big effort to put them over, they are probably missed more often that scored
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 29, 2008, 10:17:34 PM
And these 'scoring' frees that the ref gave away, at least 3 were from 50 plus yards so they aren't necessarily scoring, the took a big effort to put them over, they are probably missed more often that scored



So they were scoring free kicks then as i said  :D. Come on nashville
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 30, 2008, 09:10:28 AM
U21 Championship starts tonight, Harps have got Wolfe Tones at home at 7.30pm.  Don't think we'll do much damage this year.  Who would fancy themselves?  'Cruppen, Cullyhanna & Cross should be strong I would have thought?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 30, 2008, 10:48:20 AM
It's a funny tournament the u-21's and therefore hard to judge. the standard may improve this year though as they have decided to play it earlier in the year, But as to the winner i shall wait and see the first round results before making any predictions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 30, 2008, 11:04:03 AM
Cross are pretty strong this year.

So are Granemore and Drumintee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 30, 2008, 12:08:42 PM
Quote from: crossfire on April 30, 2008, 11:04:03 AM
Cross are pretty strong this year.

So are Granemore and Drumintee

I hear Dromintee are strong also ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 30, 2008, 02:06:19 PM
And he's the dead on one of the clans bunch  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 30, 2008, 08:40:39 PM
BUMPY OUT 4 A WHILE COULD BE A BIG STRUGGLE FOR THE CLANS KNOW
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 30, 2008, 08:59:01 PM
Under 21

Cross v Whitecross Off

Cullyhanna 2=06 Silverbridge 2-05.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 30, 2008, 09:18:04 PM
Wolfe Tones beat Harps by 4, something like 2-10 to 1-9.  Harps barely scraped up 15 players (we got a sub at HT), of the 15 that started 10 are minors and of those 10 six are just out of U16, not making excuses for our defeat, just thought they were a credit to the club. 

Wolfe Tones well worthy of their win, a decent big physical side but will probably come up short against a real good side.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 30, 2008, 09:18:12 PM
TONES BEAT HARPS BY 5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 30, 2008, 09:30:55 PM
Clans beat Eire Og by 5.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on April 30, 2008, 09:43:26 PM
Tones seem to have a good side this year in the under 21s. Whos managing them.

Clans for the drop this year if Bumpys ankle doesnt heal quickly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 30, 2008, 09:47:37 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 30, 2008, 09:18:12 PM
TONES BEAT HARPS BY 5

Were u playing Charlie?  Big Number 9 was excellent, good FB too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on April 30, 2008, 10:06:18 PM
Charlie doesnt play anymore although he does try his best to win breaking ball outside the bot and the ashburn. He was the best under 12 goal keeper in the county in his prime.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 30, 2008, 10:15:56 PM
number 9 plays chf for the seniors hes only turned 18 their the other week.likes the drink though and going belfast next year could be trouble!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on April 30, 2008, 10:23:18 PM
Number 9 - Tubey he is know as. He may enjoy his summer of football because it will probably be his last as Charlie said he likes the drink and hes heading to Uni next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 30, 2008, 10:27:41 PM
bit like yourself jim went off the rails at uni, now trying to rekindle the glory days of 2003!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 30, 2008, 10:38:05 PM
Quote from: crossfire on April 30, 2008, 08:59:01 PM
Under 21

Cross v Whitecross Off

Cullyhanna 2=06 Silverbridge 2-05.

That's a pity to come so close and lose, I thought Cullyhanna would be far too strong for us. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on April 30, 2008, 10:40:29 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 30, 2008, 10:27:41 PM
bit like yourself jim went off the rails at uni, now trying to rekindle the glory days of 2003!

Thats it Charlie but as ive told you before it was all worth it. Wouldnt change a thing  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on April 30, 2008, 10:42:54 PM
cruppen beat clann eireann by a couple of points!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on April 30, 2008, 11:00:48 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on April 30, 2008, 10:42:54 PM
cruppen beat clann eireann by a couple of points!

Clann eireann should be better than what they are. The amount of children they have at under 10,12,14 etc and they cant bring them through onto the minor and senior teams. The senior team has some very good players but they all like the sauce a bit to much. It'l be interesting to see if Shane McConville can bring a bit of discipline to them this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 01, 2008, 08:33:45 AM
Pearse Og beat St Pauls 2-9 to 11 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 01, 2008, 09:19:39 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on April 30, 2008, 10:42:54 PM
cruppen beat clann eireann by a couple of points!

so it's not true that Cruppin won by 7-17 to 0-00. People talk shite around this town
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 01, 2008, 10:11:00 AM
Dromintee beat Shanes by a point, actually fancied Shanes for this one. They were at home, have had some good underage teams and we had a few injuries. Good one to get over us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 01, 2008, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 30, 2008, 09:18:04 PM
Harps barely scraped up 15 players (we got a sub at HT), of the 15 that started 10 are minors and of those 10 six are just out of U16,

Without knowing the particular circumstances... this is a terrible state of affairs in a town the size of armagh. what's going on lads?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 01, 2008, 11:09:05 AM
1. Couple of lads who would be pushing for starting berths on the senior team never mind the U21's are at Uni in Newcastle.  A least 3 others that I can think off are working in Liverpool, one other in Derry.
2. Liverpool were playing >:(, something similar happened last year when a few so called Harps people went to watch the 'Pool rather than play in the B championship.
3. We would have a big drop out rate after minor.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 01, 2008, 11:27:38 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 30, 2008, 09:18:04 PM
Wolfe Tones beat Harps by 4, something like 2-10 to 1-9.  Harps barely scraped up 15 players (we got a sub at HT), of the 15 that started 10 are minors and of those 10 six are just out of U16, not making excuses for our defeat,[b/] just thought they were a credit to the club. 
thats exactly what uv just done! Catch a grip of yourself, admit that use were shite and deserved to get beat and stop making excuses.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 01, 2008, 11:36:26 AM
Notice you left out the bit were I said Tones were worthy winners, balloon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 01, 2008, 11:37:26 AM
U21 football Pedro, Benny can't even look that young.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 01, 2008, 11:44:58 AM
What does it matter. You listed a load of excuses for your poor performance them tried to slip in at the end 'not making excuses'.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 01, 2008, 11:56:23 AM
It matters because you selectively edited what I actually wrote ::) Also,  why did you feel the need to PM with personal abuse :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 01, 2008, 12:01:52 PM
benny post the PM  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 01, 2008, 12:04:40 PM
I didnt edit anything, i simply showed how you blatantly contradicted yourself. As for the personal abuse... i dont know what your talking about.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 01, 2008, 12:19:43 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 01, 2008, 11:27:38 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 30, 2008, 09:18:04 PM
Wolfe Tones beat Harps by 4, something like 2-10 to 1-9.  Harps barely scraped up 15 players (we got a sub at HT), of the 15 that started 10 are minors and of those 10 six are just out of U16, not making excuses for our defeat,[b/] just thought they were a credit to the club. 
thats exactly what uv just done! Catch a grip of yourself, admit that use were shite and deserved to get beat and stop making excuses.

That's what you quoted me as saying, the full text was:
QuoteWolfe Tones beat Harps by 4, something like 2-10 to 1-9.  Harps barely scraped up 15 players (we got a sub at HT), of the 15 that started 10 are minors and of those 10 six are just out of U16, not making excuses for our defeat, just thought they were a credit to the club. 

Wolfe Tones well worthy of their win, a decent big physical side but will probably come up short against a real good side.
Notice the difference there chief?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2008, 12:34:52 PM

Good for our lads to get a win under the belt last night. if we had everyone available we could give the under 21 championship a rattle but injuries have deprived of us what would be probably our 4 best players. centre back, midfielder, full forward and kevin dyas - who would be playing everywhere
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 01, 2008, 12:37:27 PM
Quote from: Candyman on May 01, 2008, 12:01:52 PM
benny post the PM  ;)

It wouldn't be the first time someone did that on here would it Candyman???  ;)
Title: Re: winsam
Post by: gaapunter on May 01, 2008, 01:48:47 PM
Quote from: say nothin on April 29, 2008, 02:41:05 PM
winsam - you on the dole or on long term sick??

were do u get the time to type paragraphs of shite.?

no doubt that you are on the dole- a typical south armagh **** queing up to take the queens pound- i wonder where we have seen that before- breed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 01, 2008, 01:51:05 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2008, 12:34:52 PM

Good for our lads to get a win under the belt last night. if we had everyone available we could give the under 21 championship a rattle but injuries have deprived of us what would be probably our 4 best players. centre back, midfielder, full forward and kevin dyas - who would be playing everywhere

I know of paul rocks and john molloy injured but whos the other one aghdavoyle? wasn't at the game, did shanes push us close?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 01, 2008, 02:08:35 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 01, 2008, 01:51:05 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2008, 12:34:52 PM

Good for our lads to get a win under the belt last night. if we had everyone available we could give the under 21 championship a rattle but injuries have deprived of us what would be probably our 4 best players. centre back, midfielder, full forward and kevin dyas - who would be playing everywhere

I know of paul rocks and john molloy injured but whos the other one aghdavoyle? wasn't at the game, did shanes push us close?
I thought u were a Cross Ranger ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 01, 2008, 02:11:57 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 01, 2008, 01:51:05 PM
I know of paul rocks and john molloy injured but whos the other one aghdavoyle?

Shane Carroll
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 01, 2008, 03:05:35 PM
That scoreline was correct from carrickcruppin v Clann Eireann 7-17 to 0-00

Clan na Gael v Pearse Ogs in U21 championship next wed 7:30
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 01, 2008, 03:12:02 PM
I see Patrick Og's job in being advertised in the jobs section of the Irish News :o What's the story there? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 01, 2008, 03:23:58 PM

It's not Paddy Og's job.... yet! he'll have to go through the formality of applying for it and sitting for an interview.

Looking at the job description it talks about strategic planning, etc. it's a pity we couldn't get someone with a bit of vision and dynamism to restructure club football and give everything a lift.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 01, 2008, 03:28:38 PM
Illdecide, you don't have al lu21 fixtures by any chance?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 01, 2008, 04:00:59 PM
Perhaps the county board have been readin what we are saying here about them and have decided to act on the great advice we hand out ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 01, 2008, 04:03:12 PM
Quote from: Uladh on May 01, 2008, 03:23:58 PM

It's not Paddy Og's job.... yet! he'll have to go through the formality of applying for it and sitting for an interview.

Looking at the job description it talks about strategic planning, etc. it's a pity we couldn't get someone with a bit of vision and dynamism to restructure club football and give everything a lift.

It's been said in nearly every county that has advertised for a Secretary but the final question to all applicants seems to be  - is your name insert incumbent's name
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 01, 2008, 04:22:15 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 01, 2008, 03:28:38 PM
Illdecide, you don't have al lu21 fixtures by any chance?

Cross v Culloville (if they beat St Peters tonight)
Dromintee v Maghery
Granemore v Ballymacnab
Tones v Middletown
Madden v Killeavey
Keady v Cruppin
Porty v Cullyhanna
Clans v Ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 01, 2008, 05:53:30 PM
pints was at game in silverbridge last night. at least your u21 managers can now get back to their dancing.wallies (3of)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 01, 2008, 07:08:54 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on May 01, 2008, 05:53:30 PM
pints was at game in silverbridge last night. at least your u21 managers can now get back to their dancing.wallies (3of)
Yeah...good one 




::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 01, 2008, 09:28:18 PM
To illdecide

Sorry for spelling phonetically, obviously it confused you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 02, 2008, 09:14:28 AM
Quote from: crossfire on May 01, 2008, 09:28:18 PM
To illdecide

Sorry for spelling phonetically, obviously it confused you.

Thats Ok Cross, just thought i'd bust you're balls a bit ;). As you can see i'm easily confused :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 02, 2008, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: illdecide on May 02, 2008, 09:14:28 AM
Quote from: crossfire on May 01, 2008, 09:28:18 PM
To illdecide

Sorry for spelling phonetically, obviously it confused you.

Thats Ok Cross, just thought i'd bust you're balls a bit ;). As you can see i'm easily confused :P

When did you start being agreeable with Cross ones, you were never that agreeable on the field ye fecker :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on May 02, 2008, 10:57:11 AM
According to the IN tis morning, the County Championship panel was announced during the week; anyone know it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 02, 2008, 11:20:15 AM
Surely the official website will have it....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 02, 2008, 11:23:28 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 02, 2008, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: illdecide on May 02, 2008, 09:14:28 AM
Quote from: crossfire on May 01, 2008, 09:28:18 PM
To illdecide

Sorry for spelling phonetically, obviously it confused you.

Thats Ok Cross, just thought i'd bust you're balls a bit ;). As you can see i'm easily confused :P

When did you start being agreeable with Cross ones, you were never that agreeable on the field ye fecker :P

Must have been the day me and you had a good scrap on the Cross pitch ya big fecker :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on May 02, 2008, 11:31:35 AM
Quote from: Uladh on May 02, 2008, 11:20:15 AM
Surely the official website will have it....

That's where I looked first, but no!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 02, 2008, 11:42:14 AM

Imagine my surprise.

I heard paul duffy didn't make it but don't take that as right til we see a panel somewhere
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 02, 2008, 01:38:23 PM
Thought you had the heve ho myself ya mare ya. You other two street fighters quit the agression  :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 02, 2008, 02:40:51 PM

Can someone please think of the children
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 02, 2008, 03:20:30 PM
Mods?  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on May 02, 2008, 03:41:55 PM
gaapunter and BC1. The last few posts on this thread have been a throwback to the rubbish that started the decline of this board. If ye want to abuse each other, use PMs. Any repeat of the personal abuse and childish namecalling on the public threads will result in a ban.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 02, 2008, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 02, 2008, 11:23:28 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 02, 2008, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: illdecide on May 02, 2008, 09:14:28 AM
Quote from: crossfire on May 01, 2008, 09:28:18 PM
To illdecide

Sorry for spelling phonetically, obviously it confused you.

Thats Ok Cross, just thought i'd bust you're balls a bit ;). As you can see i'm easily confused :P

When did you start being agreeable with Cross ones, you were never that agreeable on the field ye fecker :P

Must have been the day me and you had a good scrap on the Cross pitch ya big fecker :D :D

illdecide

theres a few on here who you have put the boot into   8)



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 02, 2008, 05:03:36 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on May 02, 2008, 04:22:18 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 02, 2008, 11:23:28 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 02, 2008, 09:24:43 AM
Quote from: illdecide on May 02, 2008, 09:14:28 AM
Quote from: crossfire on May 01, 2008, 09:28:18 PM
To illdecide

Sorry for spelling phonetically, obviously it confused you.

Thats Ok Cross, just thought i'd bust you're balls a bit ;). As you can see i'm easily confused :P

When did you start being agreeable with Cross ones, you were never that agreeable on the field ye fecker :P

Must have been the day me and you had a good scrap on the Cross pitch ya big fecker :D :D

illdecide

theres a few on here who you have put the boot into   8)





I'd say so :D But i've turned over a new leaf, when you get older you wise up and think a bit more of you're front teeth.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 02, 2008, 05:10:49 PM
 ;) :D :D I thought i knew you decider!!
Title: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 02, 2008, 10:02:26 PM
An Port Mor beat the 'bridge by two points, we were desperate by all accounts  :-\

Any more points dropped at this early stage and we can say goodbye to promotion. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 02, 2008, 10:46:38 PM
yes, great game we played brilliant tonight should have been more like a 5 or 6 point win. we handed the bridge a goal at the end of the first half. 

An portmor 2-10 silverbridge 1-11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 02, 2008, 11:30:13 PM
promotion pints more like relegation
Title: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 02, 2008, 11:43:44 PM
Well a long way to go yet but we would need to pull our socks up, and quickly, or we could easily be at the wrong end of the table.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 03, 2008, 01:01:17 PM
Pints hav yuz got injurys,cause i am really surprised by dat result??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on May 03, 2008, 06:50:15 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on May 03, 2008, 01:01:17 PM
Pints hav yuz got injurys,cause i am really surprised by dat result??

managers are fools think tat the reason....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 03, 2008, 07:04:27 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on May 03, 2008, 01:01:17 PM
Pints hav yuz got injurys,cause i am really surprised by dat result??

I don't know real however it shouldn't matter, the 'bridge have enough quality within the panel to beat most of the division 2 teams, and done exactly that last year when crippled with injures.  Dropping points the way we are is not good enough for a club with promotion ambitions but they're a good bunch of lads with a good mangement so hopefully the bad spell won't last too long.  I'd just think we'd need to be careful as it's very easy to find yourself at the wrong end of the table. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 03, 2008, 09:01:48 PM
Dromintee beat the clans by 1 point. The match was terrible another dubious free kick awarded against marsden for again going for a one , two. (can't fanthom why a ref would think a forward would want to foul a defender when he was running in full flight for a return ball) But despite that a dull game with a deserved result dromintee being more clinical up front and used the ball better.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 04, 2008, 12:19:38 PM
Luckily Clans got a few dubious decisions close to goal to even it out then Win.

I actually thought it was quite a good game, certainly our best performance of the season because it is not often you leave Lurgan with the points.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 04, 2008, 12:22:48 PM
Fair enough corn lad the better team won. But you have to question that decision against marsden  ??? Things are not going very well this year to date. we would need to be getting our act together
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 04, 2008, 12:24:11 PM
Who was the referee corn?

In the interests of fair play I'm sure the Clans lads won't want him refereeing any of their games again. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 04, 2008, 12:29:21 PM
I think both teams got some soft frees, but thats what you get when the ref shows up late and has to wear a Clans strip because he forgot his gear.

What is the deal with Oldham Win?

Is number 15 Marty Lavery's bro, they play and look very alike, he was very good from frees.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 04, 2008, 12:56:24 PM
No pints  thought the ref was ok apart from that incident but it wasn't a game changing one like.  That goalie skip e ref was wearing was a tight fit for him too  :D :D. Oldha has quit the year, he has a new wee kid and hasn't the time. Number 15 corn is Ronan o Hara, he's a decent player and is very quick and almost impossible to mark if the correct ball goes in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 04, 2008, 01:31:01 PM
I thought I saw Oldham on your bench but obviously not, you still have a very big midfield.

Yeah him and Lavery are very quick onto the ball.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 04, 2008, 04:42:28 PM
any results from todays games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 04, 2008, 04:52:12 PM
Any news from the armagh wexford challenge game, what sort of a team was put out or anything
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 04, 2008, 05:06:40 PM
cruppen stole 2 points at the death in whitecross!

an injury time goal from seamus kane put cruppen 1 point in the lead at the final whistle - 2nd half performance can only be described as dire! first half was decent enough working for eack other and using the ball, second half they just stopped!

hopefully this will start the ball rolling for us this season!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 04, 2008, 06:50:37 PM
No oldham wasn't on the bench he was at the game though i am told.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 04, 2008, 07:53:47 PM
Mullaghbawn 2-10
Harps 2-09

Very physical game with harps going down to 14 men mid way thru second half.  Their goal keeper coming out and taking down paul Kelly with a cynical challenge (Straight red) ending up in a mass brawl.  Mullaghbawn were def not at their best, but was a great team effort..  By the way fair play to Vernon and Nippy travelling the whole way up to us after armagh game, gr8 attitude lads....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 04, 2008, 09:24:29 PM
Anyone know what way the Div 1 table looks like now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: KIDDO 4 on May 04, 2008, 09:47:55 PM
Armagh 1.13, Wexford0.8.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 04, 2008, 09:58:20 PM
Horay...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 05, 2008, 08:53:44 AM
Took in the Harps v Mullaghbawn game.

Excelelnt game of football played in ideal conditions. The  shooting was economic even if the unforced errors count was extremely high.

That was a pretty nasty brawl, something you don't see too often. Paul Kelly kicked two great scores to steal the win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 05, 2008, 09:10:48 AM

Surprised that Dromintee beat the clans give how poor they've been of late (what was the difference this week DNR and Corn?). harps are starting struggle too as mullaghbawn aren't that great. looks like it could be killeavy and harps or maghery to struggle all summer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on May 05, 2008, 09:19:19 AM
Quote from: Uladh on May 05, 2008, 09:10:48 AM

Surprised that Dromintee beat the clans give how poor they've been of late (what was the difference this week DNR and Corn?). harps are starting struggle too as mullaghbawn aren't that great. looks like it could be killeavy and harps or maghery to struggle all summer.

The clans were  really poor and really struggled up front as we have done all year- Dromintee played with all the orourkes and took thei goal well in the first half- Bumpy is a massive miss for the clans in his asbence we looked to Marsden - who simply hadnt brought his shooting boots ihe must have missed 8 +  scorable chances
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 05, 2008, 09:22:02 AM
I don't know Uladh, they just played very well. The three O'Rourkes were all excellent (no shock there). We (like Clans) were missing a good chunk of players, but the people who came in all done very well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 05, 2008, 10:37:36 AM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 4 MAY 2008

Thursday 1 May

Armagh Under-21 Football Championship – 1st Round
Culloville 1-14; St Peter's 2-5

ACL – Division Three
Annaghmore 1-12; Grange 0-3


Friday 2 May

ACL – Division One
Pearse Og 1-7; Culloville 0-6

ACL – Division Two
An Port Mor 2-10; Silverbridge 1-11
Wolfe Tones 1-11; Ballymacnab 3-12

ACL – Division Three
Collegeland 3-10; Madden 0-10
St Paul's 1-9; Lissummon 1-9
Clonmore 1-7; St Peter's 1-9

ACL – Division Four
Middletown 2-14; Mullaghbrack 0-5
O'Hanlon's 1-8; Corrinshego 0-7


Saturday 3 May

ACL – Division One
Clan na Gael 0-10; Dromintee 1-8

ACL – Division Four
Forkhill 0-15; Clady 0-11


Sunday 4 May

ACL – Division One
Maghery 1-9; Killeavey 3-6
Mullaghbawn 2-10; Harps 2-9
Crossmaglen v St Patrick's (Off)

ACL – Division Two
Clann Eireann v Ballymacnab (Off)
St Michael's 1-12; Granemore 2-17
Whitecross 0-13; Carrickcruppen 1-11
Sarsfields 2-10; Keady 0-4
Tir na nÓg 2-15; Wolfe Tones 2-12

ACL – Division Three
Ballyhegan 1-15; Tullysaran 1-10
Belleek 1-8; Crossmaglen II 0-4

ACL – Division Four
Eire Og v Derrynoose (Off)
Phelim Brady's 1-7; Shane O'Neill's 3-13
Bye – Dorsey Emmett's





ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 4 MAY 2008

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Mullaghbawn 4 3 1 0 7
Pearse Og 4 3 1 0 7
St Patrick's 4 3 0 1 6
Crossmaglen 3 2 1 0 5
Culloville 3 2 0 1 4
Dromintee 4 1 1 2 3
Clan na Gael 5 1 1 3 3
Harps 5 1 1 3 3
Killeavey 5 1 0 4 2
Maghery 3 0 0 3 0

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Granemore 5 4 0 1 8
St Michael's 5 4 0 1 8
Tir na nÓg 5 4 0 1 8
Sarsfields 5 3 0 2 6
Wolfe Tones 5 3 0 2 6
Ballymacnab 4 2 1 1 5
Carrickcruppen 5 2 1 2 5
Silverbridge 5 2 0 3 4
Clann Eireann 3 1 0 2 2
Keady 4 1 0 3 2
An Port Mor 5 1 0 4 2
Whitecross 5 0 0 5 0

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Collegeland 5 5 0 0 10
Madden 5 3 1 1 7
St Paul's 5 3 1 1 7
Annaghmore 5 3 0 2 6
Lissummon 5 2 2 1 6
St Peter's 5 3 0 2 6
Belleek 5 2 1 2 5
Ballyhegan 5 2 0 3 4
Clonmore 5 2 0 3 4
Grange 5 1 1 3 3
Crossmaglen II 4 0 0 4 0
Tullysaran 4 0 0 4 0

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 4 4 0 0 8
Eire Og 4 3 0 1 6
Forkhill 4 3 0 1 6
Middletown 4 3 0 1 6
Derrynoose 3 2 0 1 4
Dorsey Emmett's 3 2 0 1 4
O'Hanlon's 4 2 0 2 4
Clady 4 1 0 3 2
Corrinshego 4 1 0 3 2
Mullaghbrack 4 0 0 4 0
Phelim Brady's 4 0 0 4 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 05, 2008, 11:00:48 AM
Apologies but those tables are wrong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 05, 2008, 11:02:16 AM
tell centrehalf on orchardcounty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on May 05, 2008, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: Real1995 on May 04, 2008, 07:53:47 PM
Mullaghbawn 2-11
Harps 2-10

Very physical game with harps going down to 14 men mid way thru second half.  Their goal keeper coming out and taking down paul Kelly with a cynical challenge (Straight red) ending up in a mass brawl.  Mullaghbawn were def not at their best, but was a great team effort..  By the way fair play to Vernon and Nippy travelling the whole way up to us after armagh game, gr8 attitude lads....


Do you not think a ACL Div 1 game would take priority over a meaningless Armagh friendly. We will be without our county players enough without this nonsense. the county management must also take the blame. Why wasnt the friendly played at 2pm to at least allow club players line for their clubs, Why didnt they release vernon and swift at h-time to allow them to travel to Mullabawn for their clubs game. There was no other div 1 games in South Armagh yesterday, a few were played Fri/Sat.

The referree was a joke for both sides. Fair play to Mullabawn for clawing back a 4 point deficit halfway through the 2nd half. Harps can only blame themselves, their defence was shocking to say the least apart from Gill who tried hard. Gerard McDonagh was excellent and scored a great goal. P.Mckinney had a fine game in the middle, apart from that there wasnt much to praise. a simple misplaced fist past in injury time cost Harps the game

Harps needed at least a point out of Yesterdays game and I now feel Harps will struggle to stay up. A big improvment is needed all over the pitch. Harps need to win 2 or 3 games in a trot to stay up.     
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 05, 2008, 01:21:22 PM
Centrehalf is a bit of a legend POG, it would be a brave man to try and correct him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 05, 2008, 03:40:51 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on May 05, 2008, 11:26:25 AM
Do you not think a ACL Div 1 game would take priority over a meaningless Armagh friendly.

Clubs are so important fcuksake i def agree,but i bet at the same time Vernon and Swift were not goin miss yest Armagh game, especially at this time of the year.  From what i can see thou,and this is not me being baisis cause Peter is from Mullaghbawn, the county players are getting more opportunities to play club football this year than under previous managements.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on May 05, 2008, 05:29:09 PM
Yes i do agree there is much more flexibility since Peter & Co took charge . Suppose in a way you could point the finger at the county board. Maybe yesterdays games should have been fixed for sat night. I know the Harps asked Mullabawn to switch and they refused obviously they new swift and veron would  have had a roll to play in yesterdays friendly. I dont blame mullabawn for not switching, all clubs like to get as many points on the board as possible to ensure premier football the following year. 

Next week we will be short again with Armagh away to their training camp.     
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on May 05, 2008, 09:30:58 PM
POG....ne word on the young silverbridge lad who was near beat the death by 15 cullyhanna scum sun nite.. i hear hes a blood clot in his brain am i rite...hope he recovers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 05, 2008, 09:36:12 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on May 05, 2008, 09:30:58 PM
POG....ne word on the young silverbridge lad who was near beat the death by 15 cullyhanna scum sun nite.. i hear hes a blood clot in his brain am i rite...hope he recovers
I've heard the same and that he's been moved to Belfast. 
I don't think it needs to be said that everyone's thoughts will be with him, I believe his crime was just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on May 05, 2008, 09:56:58 PM
great game in portadown yesterday, end to end stuff and high scoring.  some excellent scores with paul carville on form for tirnanog. game should have been over with 5 mins left but ref tried his best to even the game up. div 2 looking interesting now with a few teams on a run of good results.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 06, 2008, 08:37:46 AM
QuoteBallyhegan 1-15; Tullysaran 1-10

Both teams were under strength, but produced a fairly entertaining affair in perfect conditions in Ballyhegan on Sunday evening!

The star of the game was Ballyhegan's Paul Courtney, who scored 1.5 from midfield - all his points coming from outside 50 meters!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 06, 2008, 08:49:59 AM
Courtney was lethal on sunday i have to agree, scored 1.05 and he only takes the long distant frees!!  Give away a foul anywhere in your own half and 9 times outta 10 its over the bar!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 06, 2008, 08:58:22 AM
That must have been a quare row at the Harps game.  were you invovled Candyman??? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 06, 2008, 09:20:25 AM
Was chatting to Paddy Grimes, he was thumped from spectators who'd jumped the fence!!!  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 06, 2008, 09:39:48 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 06, 2008, 09:20:25 AM
Was chatting to Paddy Grimes, he was thumped from spectators who'd jumped the fence!!!  :-\

Well that is absol B.S, the row happened at the away end, so he must hav been hit by his own supporters then...such rubbish
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 06, 2008, 09:49:15 AM
A good brawl once or twice a year does no harm, as long as no-one gets hurt it keeps a bit of rivalry and intensity to the game. Them bawn men are no strangers to the odd fight, i can remember in a free for all with them in Keady (championship match) and being surrounded by 4 or 5 of them thinking i'm f***ed here but it worked out ok :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 06, 2008, 09:54:10 AM
Quote from: Real1995 on May 06, 2008, 09:39:48 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 06, 2008, 09:20:25 AM
Was chatting to Paddy Grimes, he was thumped from spectators who'd jumped the fence!!!  :-\

Well that is absol B.S, the row happened at the away end, so he must hav been hit by his own supporters then...such rubbish

I don't see why he would lie?  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 06, 2008, 10:04:39 AM
Well i dont see why i should lie either?? ??? I saw no Mullaghbawn supporters on the pitch! At the end of the day i was at the game and i witnessed it with my own two eyes and i aint depending on a second rate story from someone else... Anyway the two teams had a bit of a fight...if u were at the game you would have seen that there was no bad blood at final whistle..  we are big boys here goats...what happens on the field stays on the field and thats the way it dis
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 06, 2008, 12:28:37 PM
The little guy that got the hiding from the cullyhanna lads, was this as a result of the bad blood spilling over from the games the teams have played?? If this is the case then this is an absolute disgrace. Once issues like this start coming off the field then we should seriously ask ourselves what are we involved in. I wouldn't know the circumstances of the row but 15 lads beating one lad is nothing but vicious and barbaric. This happened a few years back with my club and Tir Na Nog both teams played at Portadown in the minor championship and there was trouble at the game. A couple of weeks later it escalated at a bar in lurgan but thankfully no one was hurt to the extent of this lad by the looks of things. If this has happened as a result of the football match a while back then these Cullyhanna guys need to take a look at themselves for they have brought nothing but shame to their club and families. Hope that lad recovers our prayers are with him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 06, 2008, 12:31:24 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 04, 2008, 12:22:48 PM
Fair enough corn lad the better team won. But you have to question that decision against marsden  ??? Things are not going very well this year to date. we would need to be getting our act together

What way were the clans for numbers win? obviously bumpy was missing and i think someone said oldham has packed it in?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2008, 01:16:47 PM
Winsam there's nothing to suggest it had anything to do with football. Just general scum looking for a row. something we've become use to in the area.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on May 06, 2008, 01:21:40 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2008, 01:16:47 PM
Winsam there's nothing to suggest it had anything to do with football. Just general scum looking for a row. something we've become use to in the area.
was cause of football POG he was playin against them in the u21s last wed nite sure...his only crime was tat he was from SILVERBRIDGE......FACT.. two of the c,,ts play for the county minors so hope there put of tat panel....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stiff breeze on May 06, 2008, 01:24:35 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on May 06, 2008, 10:04:39 AM
Well i dont see why i should lie either?? ??? I saw no Mullaghbawn supporters on the pitch! At the end of the day i was at the game and i witnessed it with my own two eyes and i aint depending on a second rate story from someone else... Anyway the two teams had a bit of a fight...if u were at the game you would have seen that there was no bad blood at final whistle..  we are big boys here goats...what happens on the field stays on the field and thats the way it dis

I love it when armagh players fight each other. It should be made in2 a sport
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 06, 2008, 01:27:23 PM
Get a life you tool!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2008, 01:30:49 PM
Really legs? I hadn't heard that.
There's just no words then is there?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on May 06, 2008, 01:45:47 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2008, 01:30:49 PM
Really legs? I hadn't heard that.
There's just no words then is there?
ppl will say it takes 2 the tango but ya cant say tat this time cause this youg guy wouldnt even say boo 2ne one he keeps himself 2himself was just an easy lad 2 pick on....wat is to come of these knackers like????before ne one says a thing i am not from the bridge....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2008, 01:51:42 PM
you're dead right, the lad is one of the quietest around the bridge and wouldn't open his mouth.  An easy target.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 06, 2008, 03:46:19 PM
Society is away to f**k lads. Them Bastards are everywhere, we c***ts who wouldn't give a 2nd thought to putting a knife in ya. Hope that lad comes round ok.




Div 1 is gonna be some struggle at the bottom. Killeavey, Maghery, Harps and Clans will be fighting it out for safety. The rest should be fine....(i think)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on May 06, 2008, 04:23:09 PM
I don't live too far from those who did it.  Pure scum.  Lowlifes.  There is serious jealousy of the Bridge in CUllyhanna.  We have it over on our side as well because they hate us too. (Newtown)  In fact, the situation is made worse by the parish priest who can't see any wrong in them and actually supports them against us.  Cullyhanna have really become the hatefullest shower of c***ts around.  They are lawless and violent.  ANything they run ends in a brawl.  APparently young Conall Quinn was on his own because all the Bridge ones were at a big do in their own club.  I heard the same two names as well.  Armagh Minors.      I have a few friends from the Bridge and they are baying for the blood of the two scum lowlifes who were the main culprits.  The lad they did it on is one of the nicest quietest lads you could ever meet.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 06, 2008, 05:36:37 PM
Quote from: armaghtrue on May 05, 2008, 09:56:58 PM
great game in portadown yesterday, end to end stuff and high scoring.  some excellent scores with paul carville on form for tirnanog. game should have been over with 5 mins left but ref tried his best to even the game up. div 2 looking interesting now with a few teams on a run of good results.

pc has some left foot.near as good as tommy hamills right
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on May 06, 2008, 05:57:35 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 06, 2008, 05:36:37 PM
Quote from: armaghtrue on May 05, 2008, 09:56:58 PM
great game in portadown yesterday, end to end stuff and high scoring.  some excellent scores with paul carville on form for tirnanog. game should have been over with 5 mins left but ref tried his best to even the game up. div 2 looking interesting now with a few teams on a run of good results.

pc has some left foot.near as good as tommy hamills right

I wouldnt got that far charles. Hes good but not nearly as good as Tommy.
Title: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2008, 07:04:06 PM
Quote from: Seany on May 06, 2008, 04:23:09 PM
I don't live too far from those who did it.  Pure scum.  Lowlifes.  There is serious jealousy of the Bridge in CUllyhanna.  We have it over on our side as well because they hate us too. (Newtown)  In fact, the situation is made worse by the parish priest who can't see any wrong in them and actually supports them against us.  Cullyhanna have really become the hatefullest shower of c***ts around.  They are lawless and violent.  ANything they run ends in a brawl.  APparently young Conall Quinn was on his own because all the Bridge ones were at a big do in their own club.  I heard the same two names as well.  Armagh Minors.      I have a few friends from the Bridge and they are baying for the blood of the two scum lowlifes who were the main culprits.  The lad they did it on is one of the nicest quietest lads you could ever meet.   

I hear Conall hasnt a clot on his brain as first feared and is doing well, hope it's true and we can look forward to him being back in the blue and yellow.   
I did hear a few stories of what happened and what was done to him and it just makes me sick. It's very clear Conall was spotted and targeted when, as usual, he was just minding his own business.  From what I hear about the extent of the attack, he's actually a very lucky lad. 
I just don't know what to say about these cullyhanna boys, it's a game of football for f**k sake!

Put of the county panel legs? Are you serious? They'll probably be considered captain material. 

Seany, I know what you mean about the parish priest supporting them but considering he's now living with his sister after his house was robbed and wrecked he might have changed his mind.  I also sincerely hope that there's no retaliation, we're better than that. - just look at the weekend we had in the club, we helped the family of a man fighting illness in the US raise over £30,000, we'd yet another successful fundraising night for the club itself and we threw a great day for the kids yesterday with the bouncing castles, face painting and all that carry on - what the f**k did Cullyhanna do? 



btw, where's our cullyhanna posters?  It's ironic that one of them was saying just a couple of weeks ago about how disciplined they were.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 06, 2008, 08:59:47 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on May 06, 2008, 09:39:48 AM
Well that is absol B.S, the row happened at the away end, so he must hav been hit by his own supporters then...such rubbish

didnt know mullaghbawn had began crowd segregation and had an "away end" for away supporters. thought fans could mingle like at any other gaa ground.

Quote from: winsamsoon on May 06, 2008, 12:28:37 PM
This happened a few years back with my club and Tir Na Nog both teams played at Portadown in the minor championship and there was trouble at the game. A couple of weeks later it escalated at a bar in lurgan

lads playing in the minor championship shouldnt be drinking in bars, or anywhere else for that matter!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 06, 2008, 10:18:22 PM
exactly ??  minors are 18??? But by the way i never said it was in the bar or even involving drink. I said it escalated at a bar. But this kind of childish nit picking is expected from some muppets on here. Once again instead of participating in a proper conversation, some village idiots will try to pick up on spellings or something daft. Well done qub  :(

On the issue at hand lads, there really seems to be a big problem in this area. We have our rivalries here in lurgan and sometimes it has came down to a few digs being thrown on the odd night out but the majority of the lads stick with their own teams when out drinking.Then when they meet up they will have a bit of banter with each other. This is why we can go anywhere in Ireland and have conversations with only gaels about most issues. These thugs are taking things to another level. This behaviour should not be tolerated but then again your hands are probably tied.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2008, 10:36:44 PM
QuoteThis behaviour should not be tolerated but then again your hands are probably tied.

Look winsam plenty could be done but nothing will be.  Do you think these boys should represent Armagh at minor level? 
I find it very strange that no one seems to give a f**k, it's something I don't understand but sure we'll wait until someone is even more seriously hurt or killed. 

btw, do you think if the last issue between the 'bridge and cullyhanna was dealt with in a correct manner and bans dished out in a correct manner this would have happened? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 06, 2008, 10:39:13 PM
As a neutral at the Harps v mBawn game I can clear up the issue.

It was an all out brawl that invloved teams, subs and mentors (many trying to break it up). Both teams have a large number of 'mentors' on the sideline and the man must have got a hit from one of them as no fans jumped the wall. (I was keeping an eye on this as this is the norm when a big brawl starts out).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 07, 2008, 11:25:11 AM
No pints i totally agree with you if these guys that are on the minor panel were involved in this then they should be shown the door. I also agree with you when you say that if the other incident would have been cleared up properly it would have cleared the air. This incident still may have happened but it would have cleared the air.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 07, 2008, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2008, 10:36:44 PM
QuoteThis behaviour should not be tolerated but then again your hands are probably tied.

Look winsam plenty could be done but nothing will be.  Do you think these boys should represent Armagh at minor level? 
I find it very strange that no one seems to give a f**k, it's something I don't understand but sure we'll wait until someone is even more seriously hurt or killed. 

btw, do you think if the last issue between the 'bridge and cullyhanna was dealt with in a correct manner and bans dished out in a correct manner this would have happened? 

Pints, I agree that whoever did this is not fit to represent the County Minor team, but unfortunately that decision cannot be based on rumour or conjecture.  I am not saying that they didn't beat this young lad up but unless there are definite impartial witnesses who can be relied upon to state that they did then no action can be taken against the "alleged" assailants.  It obviously was a very serious beating and therefore the police should be involved and if there is such an investigation which brings charges then this would be grounds to drop them, but to drop them on the basis of "well, we all know who did it" is not right.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 07, 2008, 11:56:46 AM
I heard a rumour that Paddy Og is in line for an Ulster Council job, could explain the Secretary job being advertised in the paper last week??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 07, 2008, 12:41:28 PM
QUOTE FROM SEANY

" Cullyhanna hate us too "

WHO DO THEY LIKE ??

If they can't find an outsider to pick on they will fight with each other.

A COWARDLY ACT.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on May 07, 2008, 12:56:13 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 07, 2008, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2008, 10:36:44 PM
QuoteThis behaviour should not be tolerated but then again your hands are probably tied.

Look winsam plenty could be done but nothing will be.  Do you think these boys should represent Armagh at minor level? 
I find it very strange that no one seems to give a f**k, it's something I don't understand but sure we'll wait until someone is even more seriously hurt or killed. 

btw, do you think if the last issue between the 'bridge and cullyhanna was dealt with in a correct manner and bans dished out in a correct manner this would have happened? 

Pints, I agree that whoever did this is not fit to represent the County Minor team, but unfortunately that decision cannot be based on rumour or conjecture.  I am not saying that they didn't beat this young lad up but unless there are definite impartial witnesses who can be relied upon to state that they did then no action can be taken against the "alleged" assailants.  It obviously was a very serious beating and therefore the police should be involved and if there is such an investigation which brings charges then this would be grounds to drop them, but to drop them on the basis of "well, we all know who did it" is not right.

BC1 i dont think uve been about south armagh 4 a while now jus maybe a few days at a time but if u were here u would know the knackers who did this..one of the boys even stole from this own club and another burn out a lorry a few months back like wat kind of c***ts do they breed down there?????? we do know who it was ppl seen them and tat was jus 2 of the 15 tat battered this young guy.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 07, 2008, 01:18:29 PM
Legs, I know what you are saying. The old dogs on the street argument is fair enough for an internet board, but in the real world decisions cannot be based on it.  I believe that if they are known and people can finger them correctly then great, but action against them without that is wrong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tyrone86 on May 07, 2008, 01:33:32 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 07, 2008, 11:56:46 AM
I heard a rumour that Paddy Og is in line for an Ulster Council job, could explain the Secretary job being advertised in the paper last week??

Possibly, but any county that employs a full time County Administration Manager instead of a full time County Secretary has to change because of the new funding for the job. Paddy Og is an elected official on the County Board as well as the CAM so you'd assume that 2 + 2 = the new job. The craic will be in counties that have an elected County Secretary and an employed CAM.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 07, 2008, 04:43:25 PM
Paddy og never held down a job in his life.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 07, 2008, 04:54:30 PM
Thats a good night for the U21 championship lads, it's a pity our's will be ruined by Mr Quigley(Silverbridge). It will save me having to come on in the morning complaining about him i might as well do it now ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 07, 2008, 08:12:46 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 07, 2008, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2008, 10:36:44 PM
QuoteThis behaviour should not be tolerated but then again your hands are probably tied.

Look winsam plenty could be done but nothing will be.  Do you think these boys should represent Armagh at minor level? 
I find it very strange that no one seems to give a f**k, it's something I don't understand but sure we'll wait until someone is even more seriously hurt or killed. 

btw, do you think if the last issue between the 'bridge and cullyhanna was dealt with in a correct manner and bans dished out in a correct manner this would have happened? 

Pints, I agree that whoever did this is not fit to represent the County Minor team, but unfortunately that decision cannot be based on rumour or conjecture.  I am not saying that they didn't beat this young lad up but unless there are definite impartial witnesses who can be relied upon to state that they did then no action can be taken against the "alleged" assailants.  It obviously was a very serious beating and therefore the police should be involved and if there is such an investigation which brings charges then this would be grounds to drop them, but to drop them on the basis of "well, we all know who did it" is not right.

I know what you're saying BC but there are plenty of witnesses, no one plucked these names out of the air or made them up. 
I don't know if the law are involved, you know what it's like around here, but I think the county board must step in.  As I said yesterday, the fact that there was nothing done about what happened in Cross didn't help things here, if nothing is done about this then the county board have to accept responsibility for the next incident.  I sincerely hope there's no retaliation but what's the 'bridge lads suppose to do, go everywhere in groups of 20 or 30 or give as good as they get?


Quote from: illdecide on May 07, 2008, 04:54:30 PM
Thats a good night for the U21 championship lads, it's a pity our's will be ruined by Mr Quigley(Silverbridge). It will save me having to come on in the morning complaining about him i might as well do it now ;) :D
Why did you feel the need to say where he's from, you Clans boys talk that much about him I'm sure everyone feels like they know him personally.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on May 07, 2008, 09:10:20 PM
A little result from the U21 Championship to cheer you up pints.

Tír na nÓg 3-7 Cullyhanna 1-7

My correspondent said the ref was a cheating bastard.

To the bastards that robbed our clubhouse may your balls fall off.
Title: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 07, 2008, 09:17:08 PM
QuoteA little result from the U21 Championship to cheer you up pints.
I wouldn't be that bothered about them at all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 07, 2008, 09:31:41 PM
The ogs beat the clans u-21's enough said. Mr quigley was escorted out. The ogs were deserved winners though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 07, 2008, 09:44:57 PM
U21 Championship

Dromintee 2-09 Maghery 0-13

Maghery were behind by 3 with a last minute penalty but it hit the bar and went over. Great finish to a good game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 07, 2008, 10:04:34 PM
Under 21

Cross beat Culloville by 10
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 07, 2008, 10:16:07 PM
cruppen beat keady by a couple of points!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 07, 2008, 10:46:08 PM
madden hammered killeavy by 12 points.

madden play middletown away next wednesday night.

anyone the rest of the fixtures?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 07, 2008, 10:47:19 PM
Would this be the same 'couple of points' that cruppen beat Clann Eireann by in the last game?

What a load of bullsh*t diesel-smuggler.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 07, 2008, 10:50:20 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 07, 2008, 10:47:19 PM
Would this be the same 'couple of points' that cruppen beat Clann Eireann by in the last game?

What a load of bullsh*t diesel-smuggler.

not quite the same. we had 3 missing tonight. still we got the win and thats all that matters.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on May 07, 2008, 10:55:07 PM
good win for tirnanog 2nite, wats the fixtures for next week???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 07, 2008, 11:06:45 PM
carrickcruppen v tir na nog
crossmaglen v pearse ogs
middletown v madden
dromintee v granemore or cavanakill emmets
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 08, 2008, 07:49:24 AM
whose cavankil emmets
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 08, 2008, 08:50:43 AM
Think iv heard of them before, some sort of amalgamation cant remember where from though. Are tir na nog any good? Any chance theyll give those smug cruppen louts a hammering?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on May 08, 2008, 08:54:54 AM
Does G O Neill play for Dromintee Under 21's?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 08, 2008, 09:14:24 AM
No hes two days too old unfortunately.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on May 08, 2008, 09:36:04 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on May 08, 2008, 07:49:24 AM
whose cavankil emmets

Its Newtown and someone else amalgamated
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 08, 2008, 09:40:24 AM
Belleks?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 08, 2008, 10:11:41 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 07, 2008, 11:56:46 AM
I heard a rumour that Paddy Og is in line for an Ulster Council job, could explain the Secretary job being advertised in the paper last week??

f**k he is a w**ker, really does my head in
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 08, 2008, 10:13:22 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on May 08, 2008, 07:49:24 AM
whose cavankil emmets

An amalgamation of Belleek, Newtwown, and someone else, but cant mind
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 08, 2008, 10:21:20 AM
Quote from: illdecide on May 07, 2008, 04:54:30 PM
Thats a good night for the U21 championship lads, it's a pity our's will be ruined by Mr Quigley(Silverbridge). It will save me having to come on in the morning complaining about him i might as well do it now ;) :D
Why did you feel the need to say where he's from, you Clans boys talk that much about him I'm sure everyone feels like they know him personally.
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Pints i swear to God that man is a complete tube. Again in the space of 2 weeks he gives us nothing, 1 of our players asked after the game had he something against the clans and he gave him a red card then another guy said something to him and he red carded him as well. Things got pretty heated at the end when he thought he would come into our changing rooms to lecture us on discapline after red carding 2 players and having been beaten in the championship, what was he thinking. Needless to say he was escorted out.

I believe his problem is that he wants to be the centre of attention and that he likes being controversial so that he's talked about, and they way he talks down to people on the pitch is just disgraceful. Like i said before if someone spoke to you like that on the street you'd bust them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 08, 2008, 10:24:10 AM
Quote from: illdecide on May 08, 2008, 10:21:20 AM
Things got pretty heated at the end when he thought he would come into our changing rooms to lecture us on discipline

Are you serious illdecide?
WTF was he thinking?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 08, 2008, 10:35:41 AM
I think it could be possibly belleeks, newtown and dorsey. Not to be disrespectful but granemore will push them aside.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 08, 2008, 11:23:24 AM
Quote from: full back on May 08, 2008, 10:24:10 AM
Quote from: illdecide on May 08, 2008, 10:21:20 AM
Things got pretty heated at the end when he thought he would come into our changing rooms to lecture us on discipline

Are you serious illdecide?
WTF was he thinking?

Deadly serious, we now have 2 guys suspended for God knows how long as he says he is putting them thru for threatening behaviour and they are two very quiet guys who normally wouldn't say a word. totally out of character for them.

I couldn't believe it when he tried to march them all into the changing room and he was then going to give them a speech on how he likes to play GOD on the pitch
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 08, 2008, 11:47:33 AM

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they are two very quiet guys who normally wouldn't say a word.

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that would be A first for a clanns man  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 08, 2008, 12:14:51 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on May 08, 2008, 11:47:33 AM


they are two very quiet guys who normally wouldn't say a word.

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that would be A first for a clanns man  ;D ;D ;D
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Well normally i would agree with you but in this case not, 1 of them in particular you couldn't get a conversation out of him he's that quiet. Thats how much that Quigley fool angered him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 08, 2008, 12:21:24 PM
Umgoolar every club have their fare share of slabbers  and i see you are representing yours on here. The lads in question are very quiet lads indeed but that monkey quigley just brings the badness out in all people. It is true he tried to march into the dressing room after the game despite the door being closed and then things got a bit heated because people were not going to just sit while someone who has been laughing up his sleeve since he was appointed for the game, lectured them. He robbed the seniors a couple of weeks back and cost the two points and he was once again blatant last night in his robbery ( though it didn't cost us the game the better team won) His constant slowing the game down when we were trying to take quick frees, He inability to spot off the ball thirdman tackles, him blowing up players and awarding  scorable frees when a defender was coming out with the ball and three men beating at him. Honestly lads he made a pure mockery of the whole issue. One of our management team actually ask him during a stoppage of play how long was left and he told him he had no right to ask such a question and to leave the field of play. This was when  a Pearse Og lad was on the ground and he was standing there doing nothing. Then he performed his stunt at the end which was not advisable. The issue was diffused and he then went back into our changing room and started it all over again. You would almost swear he was looking for someone to hit him so he could take it further. Any other human would say to themselves ok the issue has calmed i shall report what has happened and get out of here. He is a lucky lad the supporters didn't get a hold of him, he could have ended up like mussolini with his nuts cut off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 08, 2008, 12:24:02 PM

Re-fixtures due are as follows;

Division1    May 16th   Crossmaglen v St.Patricks / Cullaville v Maghery
            May 23rd       Crossmaglen v Cullaville / Maghery v Pearse Og

Division 2    May 9th      Clann Eireann v Ballymacnab / May 23rd Clann Eireann v Keady

Division 3   May 16th    Tullysarran v Crossmaglen II

Division 4   May 9th      Eire Og v Derrynoose / May 14th   Shane O'Neills v Forkhill /
   May 16th    Mullabrack v Dorsey Emmetts        
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 08, 2008, 12:35:14 PM
Is there a game goes by when Clans ones don't whinge about refs ??? Take some responsibility for your own actions ffs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 08, 2008, 12:35:52 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 08, 2008, 12:21:24 PM
Umgoolar every club have their fare share of slabbers  and i see you are representing yours on here.


With 186 posts ive hardly being doing much slabbering, i take it your the Clanns slabber on the board



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 08, 2008, 01:14:19 PM
Great return there umgolaar. Benny we have no problem taking responsibility for our own actions. I have already said that if a ref is ok i won't utter a word. Infact i will say he has had a good one. I will call a spade a spade. I will never complain about a ref if he is consistantly bad for both teams. I have respect for referees and i don't envy the job the have to do because i know certain people can never see anything they do correctly. I do however get very angry when i see particular individuals continiously going out of their way to  rob innocent lads who train hard all year. i am not looking for a perfect ref all i ask is for the ones that clearly have vendetta'so grow up and do the game correctly and impartially. By the way it ain't only clans folk that have complained about Quigley.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 08, 2008, 01:18:36 PM
Win,
Who is the Clan na Gael referee?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 08, 2008, 01:28:42 PM
Cheers Win

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 08, 2008, 03:23:26 PM
Have the usual Cullyhanna posters no comment to make about the alleged thuggery by their fellow club members at the wekend ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 08, 2008, 03:38:32 PM
Clan na Gael exile never had a senior ref since Paul Cadwell. But this year they have got Dee Mc Conville. Dee had been a Clann Eireann ref till this year and he has fallen out with them so we have adopted him. I think exile the fact that we have no senior ref is part of our problem. It is entirely our fault for not having a senior ref in the first place. However if we would have had a ref all these years then at least we would have had someone in the know, and someone who could maybe asks some questions why certain individuals were doing what they are doing. AFS i agree 100% with you threatening behaviour is threatening and should not be tolerated. Both players were totally wrong is slabbering the way they did. They were very hot tempered and worked up at bein robbed by the same bollox two weeks in a row ( but i am not condoning it in any way) But i would hope you can acknowledge Quigley going out of his way to come into the the dressing room after it had all died down was complete stupidity and only served one cause, To further highten the tension.  In my eyes he got what he wanted to achieve, more fuel so he could crawl back to silverbridge with a smile on his face knowing it was a job well done and he had got another one over on the clans.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 08, 2008, 04:44:41 PM
Have to agree with Clans boys on this one. Seen this clown in action too many times!!
This guy is a complete upstart who cant let a game be played without having to be the centre of attention. He seems to get some twisted satisfaction from getting involved with players while refereeing.
Was this guy bullied badly as a child, and is now trying to exact revenge???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 08, 2008, 05:06:18 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on May 08, 2008, 04:44:41 PM
Have to agree with Clans boys on this one. Seen this clown in action too many times!!
This guy is a complete upstart who cant let a game be played without having to be the centre of attention. He seems to get some twisted satisfaction from getting involved with players while refereeing.
Was this guy bullied badly as a child, and is now trying to exact revenge???

you're not going to believe this :D :D :D This is a cracker...after he was sent from our changing rooms into the store where he was changing he asked me could he speak to the two young lads that he had sent off, so i sent them in thinking he was gonna say "look lads i sent you off and there is nothing i can do about that but i will go easy on you in my report" or "in the heat of the moment lads you were out of control but the next time blah blah blah" but no he started to lecture them about how he was beat up when he was 19 and the blood was pouring from him lying on the street, WTF is this man on ???

Either it was a Clans man that beat him up or he just has a chip on his shoulder and is out to get revenge on the world. The best about it was he told this story to the 2 young lads and our chairman who went in with them and at the end of his story about him getting a hidding he said "I'm still putting my report in and I'll make sure you get 6 months".

Them lads are better men than me for I'd have busted the c**t there and then. Is this the same guy who is not allowed to do any Cross games??I know Crossmaglen told the county board that if a certain ref turned up to do their game that they will refuse to play, I'm not 100% sure who the ref is but I'd put money on it that its that clown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on May 08, 2008, 05:11:34 PM
he is a shit ref.1 of the wrst in the country
wonder who beat hm up when he was 19? cud have been any1 in the county, cos he has a problem wit everyone.if ther were no shrtage of refs he wud be tld 2 sling his hook.
like p hughes, only with a bit of speed in him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 08, 2008, 06:20:16 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 08, 2008, 05:06:18 PM
Is this the same guy who is not allowed to do any Cross games??I know Crossmaglen told the county board that if a certain ref turned up to do their game that they will refuse to play, I'm not 100% sure who the ref is but I'd put money on it that its that clown

i said before on the board that a few weeks ago a cross underage team left the field when he turned up to referee the game. not 100% as to the details though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 08, 2008, 06:22:31 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 08, 2008, 08:50:43 AM
Are tir na nog any good? Any chance theyll give those smug cruppen louts a hammering?

sorry dnr but dont see how cruppen have been smug. we are a division 2 club that havent had the start to the year we had hoped with a good group of young lads coming through and hopefully we'll get back to playing division 1 football in the near future. where's this smugness coming from??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 08, 2008, 07:06:10 PM
anyone from dromintee have some cheek in calling any other teams smug! they got to a few county finals recently and all of a sudden they are the best things since sliced bread!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 08, 2008, 07:06:59 PM
Hughes is a different character completely who applies the rules literally to the letter of the law, which is fair enough. Not alot of common sense with him but he is consistent, in my experience with him be it good or bad for both teams!
That other guy gives me the shits, and there is definetly a badness in him which is so obvious and consistent that it beggars belief!!
Guess its  a control thing with him, but my god do players suffer who are bursting their balls in training, to play to win, for this guys actions to so blatantly influence games and results.
Rant over!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 08, 2008, 07:14:05 PM
Kirwan slams abuse of referees
08 May 2008
Last year's All-Ireland hurling final referee Diarmuid Kirwan has blasted players and officials for their "over the top" criticism and abuse of referees.

The Cork whistler, whose father Gerry, from Ballyskenagh in Offaly, took charge of the 1988 All-Ireland decider between Galway and Tipperary, believes certain players show a lack of respect for the authority of the referee.

"Even at inter-county level you have certain players who have this disrespect for referees," he said.

"You wonder sometimes that if these fellas led by example, it would be a lot easier for the referees."

Kirwan himself has felt the full force of over-zealous players and officials as a referee, having received physical abuse.

"On one occasion, I was physically abused leaving the field after a championship game," he added.

"It was a minor assault - unfortunately the problems now with what is happening in the GAA, you might have a lot of local derby championship matches."

www.hoganstand.com

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 08, 2008, 07:43:07 PM
I agree entirely, and i think rugby is a fine example where refs are treated with utmost respect! If we could get anywhere near close to this level will be a fine day for the gaa.
However, this respect needs to be 2 way, and a referee (and majority do) need to have respect for what the players are doing, in terms of training, preperation etc.
Honest mistakes will always be made by players and refs and this is the nature of any team sport!Players need to accept this, as do referees.
My problem is when a referee sees his position as something more central to what he is there to do, and shouldnt be there to pass snide remarks to players during the course of a game, or deliberately attempt to influence a games result, or upon whos word can affect a young players season.
Its a common sense thing and in my experience the best ref are the ones who call it as they see it and arent blowing a whistle and brandishing a yellow card every time they hear a swear word uttered on the field. Its a fast physical game and when players deliberately cross the line they should be punished.


Title: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 08, 2008, 08:10:59 PM
i'lldecide
QuotePints i swear to God that man is a complete tube. Again in the space of 2 weeks he gives us nothing, 1 of our players asked after the game had he something against the clans and he gave him a red card then another guy said something to him and he red carded him as well. Things got pretty heated at the end when he thought he would come into our changing rooms to lecture us on discapline after red carding 2 players and having been beaten in the championship, what was he thinking. Needless to say he was escorted out.
So did your player go up to him and say "excuse me Mr Quigley, I was just wondering, would you have anything against the Clans?" - and he give him a red card?  That would be harsh. 
What did the second player say?

Both you and and winsam have talked about him going into the changing room to lecture but it doesn't sound like he'd a chance to open his mouth so I'm not sure how you know what he was going to do or say.

Quoteyou're not going to believe this  This is a cracker...after he was sent from our changing rooms into the store where he was changing he asked me could he speak to the two young lads that he had sent off, so i sent them in thinking he was gonna say "look lads i sent you off and there is nothing i can do about that but i will go easy on you in my report" or "in the heat of the moment lads you were out of control but the next time blah blah blah" but no he started to lecture them about how he was beat up when he was 19 and the blood was pouring from him lying on the street, WTF is this man on
That's strange again illdecide and I've a feeling you're not telling the whole truth.  Did he just bring up this story out of no where or did he use a personal experience to try and connect with the lads?  It doesn't sound like someone who was going to "crawl back to silverbridge with a smile on his face knowing it was a job well done".  Trying to speak to lads twice or three times? seems strange for a man that's apparently happy to get one over the Clans. 

Yous are complaining here about him dishing out red cards when he was verbally abused, yous were complaining last year about him sending off players who were fighting, very few are harder on referees than me but if you verbally abuse and fight you have to expect the consquences.  Clans wouldnt have a spectacular discipline record anyway, how man sending offs had you in the last year?
Title: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 08, 2008, 08:14:35 PM
Quote from: crossfire on May 08, 2008, 03:23:26 PM
Have the usual Cullyhanna posters no comment to make about the alleged thuggery by their fellow club members at the wekend ?

I think it took them about 10 months to break their silence over the last issue, give them time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 08, 2008, 09:03:25 PM
i won't have a word said about Paudie Hughes, if anyone does Wicked Gene will get ye! >:(  Paudie, as has been posted, is a consistent, literal referee and if players respected the like of him more things would be better.  In many ways he reminds me of Jimmy McKee, expect he is not an annoying little B*llix who always booked me ;)

Now Roisin Quigley is another story altogether.  It is a good things for failed footballers to make a go at refereeing, but try to learn the rules first and leave your issues in the gear bag please.  I know myself and refs never really, except maybe Big Sam, Rory Robinson and Brendan Gorman, the odd time, but I tried to respect them and never got sent off for abusing them.  I seriously think that the GAA should have a regular sit down between refs and club managers to ensure everyone knows what way things should be played and maybe then there could be mutual respect built up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 08, 2008, 09:14:04 PM
Roisin Quigley?

Is that what you've been reduced to BC?  We've illdecide acting like a silly teenager on another thread and now you're going to start acting like one on this one.


I think Quigley is one of the better referees in armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 08, 2008, 09:32:43 PM
Pints when I wa spalying I frankly didn't think much of him.  As a player he was poor as  ref he is inadequate.  My opinion.

come on now though, stop being such a frigging dramatist about acting like a teenager.  You really need to lighten up a bit, the whole Victor Meldrew is a bit played out at this stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 08, 2008, 09:40:16 PM
Disappointing BC.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 08, 2008, 09:46:09 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 08, 2008, 09:14:04 PM
I think Quigley is one of the better referees in armagh.

you must be having a laugh. any time you see his name beside your fixture its "that bollix qiugley is refereeing, yous all know what he's like" etc etc.

i do think paudi hughes and jimmy mckee arent bad. but paudi once gave a free against me before telling the other player not to be diving?? when i asked how could i have fouled the player when he dived i was booked. couldnt understand it but thats the way things are i suppose.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 08, 2008, 09:47:07 PM
QuoteI think Quigley is one of the better referees in armagh.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 08, 2008, 09:50:24 PM
I think Hughes, McKee, Robinson and Quigley are about the best, in fact, they're the only decent ones.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 08, 2008, 09:54:58 PM
Quote from: hardstation on May 08, 2008, 09:50:38 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 08, 2008, 09:46:09 PM
but paudi once gave a free against me before telling the other player not to be diving?? when i asked how could i have fouled the player when he dived i was booked. couldnt understand it but thats the way things are i suppose.
Simple. You tackled him, he dived, you kicked up the balls and said "Get up you diving cnut."
Outcome: Free in for the kick in the balls and a warning to the other boy for diving.

wasnt quite as bad as tha hardstation!

at the end of the day everyone and every club will have gripes with certain referees at one stage or another. but quigley has a bad rapport with nearly every club. and he doesnt get a bad reputation for doing a good job..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 08, 2008, 09:59:15 PM
Fair enough pints ::)  Anyway outside of Quigley I would agree with you in regards the other refs.  Sure enough Jimmy McKee can be a little hitler sometimes but he knows the rules as does Paudie.  Rory has always been fair, so long as his glasses didn't fog up!

I have to say i think Gorman is fair enough too.  As for the rest they are much of a muchness, expect for Oliver Hearty, he is the Special One ;D 
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Post by: pintsofguinness on May 08, 2008, 10:10:09 PM
Ah Ollie Hearty, yon's a cheating **** if ever there was a cheating ****.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 08, 2008, 11:29:16 PM
Ollie used to be fond of being centre of attention when he first came onto the scene, havent seen much of him lately,think he maybe took up  role on County Board which maybe means less games.
Mc Kee is prob the pick in the county at the moment. The majority are a bunch of decent guys who give up their time and try and do a decent job for very little thanks, and then there is Quigley!!!
As a bridge man Pints surely you cant have seen this man in action too many times?? Sure he shouldnt be reffing yous in competitive games. He really is a vindictive git!!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 08, 2008, 11:49:44 PM
QuoteAs a bridge man Pints surely you cant have seen this man in action too many times?? Sure he shouldnt be reffing yous in competitive games. He really is a vindictive git!!

I've seen him plenty of times and he's among the best.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 08, 2008, 11:55:08 PM
Try watching him with your yellow and blue glasses off sometime and you mite see what everyone else does, or better still play in a game he is refereeing!!
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Post by: pintsofguinness on May 08, 2008, 11:58:51 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on May 08, 2008, 11:55:08 PM
Try watching him with your yellow and blue glasses off sometime and you mite see what everyone else does, or better still play in a game he is refereeing!!

I don't have any blue and yellow glasses on, I'm not saying he's perfect but he's among the top 4 or 5 in the county.   
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Post by: altovito on May 09, 2008, 08:38:54 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 08, 2008, 10:10:09 PM
Ah Ollie Hearty, yon's a cheating **** if ever there was a cheating ****.

change o hearty 4 r quigley n u r correct.imagine sum1 frm quigleys club havin the cheek 2 cal a ref a cheatin **** ::)



I've seen him plenty of times and he's among the best.
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fuckin hell,what a lie.he isnt n the top 20
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 09, 2008, 09:07:28 AM
Quote from: AFS on May 09, 2008, 02:57:05 AM
Good times to follow in the next few years for 'Cruppen methinks.

I doubt it, a good U21 run guarantees nothing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 09, 2008, 09:29:43 AM
Pints it does no harm now and again to act like a teenager ;) On the ref issue, everyone on the board can't be wrong about Quigley. you're the only one backing up. P Hughes is a good ref and i don't mind him doing our games, he's a bit picky at times and can give soft frees but he does it for both sides and I've never had a problem with him. R robinson and B Gorman are fair enough refs as well as M Leonard who again like Hughes gives very soft free's but for both.

Thats all teams ask for as long as you do it fair and equal we would even let you do it Pints ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 09, 2008, 09:42:04 AM
Quigley is no worse than the rest of them, he has never actually come under my radar at all.  Big Sam would be the baine of our lives and maybe Hearty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 09, 2008, 10:10:41 AM
Ah pints my friend there you go adding bits to your argument when no one agreed with you. You see what you were trying to do was make the clans men out to be the big bad wolves in the hope that the other posters would back up the story and agree with you. I think you got the opposite response you were looking for. The majority of the folk think Quigley is a muppet. I agree with you that players should always respect refs no matter what decision he makes, bad or good. No player should verbally or physically abuse any ref . One of our lads verbally abused him and got the red after the game that he deserved, this was never in dispute. The dispute lies with the decisions he has made against our club in his last two outings. As a manager and player i cannot find any excuse for it only that he has some vendetta against us as a club or alternatively he is just a egotistical kind of guy who cannot referee. When a game is over a ref should get changed and if he so wishes come into the club house and mingle or he can just head on home. He should never walk into any changing room when a door is closed and he should never be handing out lectures on his life or any other issue (especially after heated exchanges on the pitch has been put under control). This is not part of his job. He is there to keep discipline on the field and ensure the rules are adhered to in the correct manner. He failed to do this at Davitt park on wed night and at Abbey park two sundays back.
Remind me again what club he is from ??? I thought it was Silverbridge??? I also think you are from Silverbridge pints so perhaps, just maybe this is why you are giving him the benefit if the doubt. I like so many other posters simply cannot any longer. I have had my fill of him, i can no longer accept his ignorance and on many occassions misinterpretations of the rules (cheating) I think we will be taking a line from the Cross and telling the county board no thanks in the future.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on May 09, 2008, 12:31:50 PM
Not sure whether I'm one of the "usual Cullyhanna posters" that's being talked about, but just to be clear that I'm not a "Cullyhanna poster" and that I agree that those who beat the Bridge lad up should be reported to the Gardai and hopefully get jail for what they've done. I would associate that sort of behaviour with the soccer thugs in England not GAA people in south Armagh. Hope the lad makes a full and speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Abble on May 09, 2008, 12:33:41 PM
barney henry - eire og, doesnt do much wrong. a good ref
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 09, 2008, 01:09:29 PM
Mackers surely it is in the juristiction of our friends in the PSNI and not our other friends in the Gardai :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 09, 2008, 01:11:06 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 09, 2008, 01:09:29 PM
Mackers surely it is in the juristiction of our friends in the PSNI and not our other friends in the Gardai :D :D

It happened in the South winsam
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 09, 2008, 01:15:26 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 09, 2008, 01:09:29 PM
Mackers surely it is in the juristiction of our friends in the PSNI and not our other friends in the Gardai :D :D

Also it's not the sort of thing you stick one smilie never mind 2 in!  A young lad is very seriously ill and it is not something to make a flippant joke about. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 09, 2008, 01:16:49 PM
no doubt at the Carrickdale??? A feckin wild spot... >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on May 09, 2008, 01:28:09 PM
Yes, Candyman, it was the Carrickdale.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 09, 2008, 01:33:10 PM
Don't think Winsam meant any harm. His joke was relation to Garda/ PSNI not that incident.

BTW Win when you posting lone comments please, please put a space in now and then.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 09, 2008, 02:00:01 PM
I guess that's me told then lads, You are correct corn, the joke was in relation to the police issue. I wasn't aware it happened at the carrickdale. Apologies for any sensitive beings out there towards the police. I never knew you held them so highly lads. I'll take on board what you said about spacing corn  :D :D.

I wasn't sure if i could put them two smiles in for fear of offending anyone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 09, 2008, 02:09:06 PM
You would think people would be in better form on a Friday Win wouldn't you?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 09, 2008, 02:20:33 PM
Tough week lads and still more to do.  I am a bit grumpy to say the least :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 09, 2008, 02:28:39 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 09, 2008, 02:20:33 PM
Tough week lads and still more to do.  I am a bit grumpy to say the least :(

Ye'll get the ride the night BC1 and that should cheer you up!!! :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 09, 2008, 02:28:50 PM
I heard this afternoon from a very reliable source that Philly Loughran has been axed from the Squad, and also that Dromintee committee have turned down his Transfer application to them, what a day hes having!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 09, 2008, 02:40:00 PM
I thought it weas common knowledge that he was dropped? It is at least a week old news Onoin Bag. P Duffy in same boat.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 09, 2008, 02:42:54 PM
My Source told me that he just got a phone call, i dont know, so was there any other players axed or can anyone list the definite championship panel 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on May 09, 2008, 02:44:31 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 09, 2008, 02:20:33 PM
Tough week lads and still more to do.  I am a bit grumpy to say the least :(

Its hard being a rent boy isnt it- quit complaining- you so expand the diseal smuggling business handy ££££
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 09, 2008, 03:08:24 PM
Maybe he didn't know. But I heard himself and Duffy did not make the first 30, don't know the rest of the cuts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on May 09, 2008, 03:14:38 PM
AFAIK Duffy is injured at the minute but i think he's still away on the training camp!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 09, 2008, 03:31:02 PM
The five reserves are away too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 09, 2008, 06:45:31 PM
The Rangers main pitch is being closed from next monday May 12 for the rest of the season.

It will be extended, drained and resurfaced by Prunty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 09, 2008, 07:13:15 PM
Quote from: AFS on May 09, 2008, 02:57:05 AM
So I hear 'Cruppen won 5-16 to 1-4 last night in the U21 Championship. After their second successive massive triumph they must be odds on to win the championship. Good times to follow in the next few years for 'Cruppen methinks.
I wouldnt think so, as soon as the buckfast catches up with them theyll all be quite rotund. 5-16 to 1-4 then diesel smuggler, what a bullshitin c**t!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 09, 2008, 07:49:04 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 09, 2008, 10:10:41 AM
Ah pints my friend there you go adding bits to your argument when no one agreed with you. You see what you were trying to do was make the clans men out to be the big bad wolves in the hope that the other posters would back up the story and agree with you. I think you got the opposite response you were looking for. The majority of the folk think Quigley is a muppet. I agree with you that players should always respect refs no matter what decision he makes, bad or good. No player should verbally or physically abuse any ref . One of our lads verbally abused him and got the red after the game that he deserved, this was never in dispute. The dispute lies with the decisions he has made against our club in his last two outings. As a manager and player i cannot find any excuse for it only that he has some vendetta against us as a club or alternatively he is just a egotistical kind of guy who cannot referee. When a game is over a ref should get changed and if he so wishes come into the club house and mingle or he can just head on home. He should never walk into any changing room when a door is closed and he should never be handing out lectures on his life or any other issue (especially after heated exchanges on the pitch has been put under control). This is not part of his job. He is there to keep discipline on the field and ensure the rules are adhered to in the correct manner. He failed to do this at Davitt park on wed night and at Abbey park two sundays back.
Remind me again what club he is from ??? I thought it was Silverbridge??? I also think you are from Silverbridge pints so perhaps, just maybe this is why you are giving him the benefit if the doubt. I like so many other posters simply cannot any longer. I have had my fill of him, i can no longer accept his ignorance and on many occassions misinterpretations of the rules (cheating) I think we will be taking a line from the Cross and telling the county board no thanks in the future.


What does where he's from have to do with anything? 
I wasnt trying to make anyone out to be anything and I certainly wasn't looking for back up!
You and illdecide keep saying he tried going in to the dressing room to lecture yous on discipline but I'm a bit confused because it would seem from what you're saying that he hadnt a chance to open his mouth so how do you know what he was going to say?
Yous are also sniggering and laughing at him talking about a personal experience but yous leave out why he was telling this or in what context he was using it, because it wouldn't suit your argument?  He could, and probably should have, gone home but seems to me his intentions were good when he tried to talk to yous - would you start telling someone you hated about being beat up when you were a kid? 
Considering Clans discipline record it sounds like you could do with someone lecture you on discipline anyway.


Crossfire, extended to where?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 09, 2008, 07:50:53 PM
Btw, I have to ask, is there some reason why you're lying about Cruppen results DS? 

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 09, 2008, 08:08:14 PM
Quote from: mackers on May 09, 2008, 12:31:50 PM
Not sure whether I'm one of the "usual Cullyhanna posters" that's being talked about, but just to be clear that I'm not a "Cullyhanna poster" and that I agree that those who beat the Bridge lad up should be reported to the Gardai and hopefully get jail for what they've done. I would associate that sort of behaviour with the soccer thugs in England not GAA people in south Armagh. Hope the lad makes a full and speedy recovery.

What club are you from again Mackers?
Will Cullyhanna be investigating the incident, I assume the two main culprits lined out for them the other night? 
I hope the St Patricks gfc is proud of them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 09, 2008, 10:36:18 PM
im never lied about any of our results!

we beat clann eireann and keady which i have stated, in my own opinion if i was to put in the scoreline of both games that we had won in the u21 championship then that would be smug which we certainly are not!

btw keady scored 1-7 the other night and not 1-4 that has been recorded on this forum!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 09, 2008, 10:44:22 PM
Quotewe beat clann eireann and keady which i have stated, in my own opinion if i was to put in the scoreline of both games that we had won in the u21 championship then that would be smug which we certainly are not!
You don't have to put up the score line - saying you won by a good bit or whatever when you did is hardly smug whereas playing silly games makes you look like a dick.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 09, 2008, 10:47:45 PM
pot kettle and black!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 09, 2008, 10:56:20 PM
What games are you playing now?
::)


"a couple of points"   ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 10, 2008, 08:14:13 AM

Well overdue time the cross pitch was relayed. i~t will certainly bring the overall quality of the venue well up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 10, 2008, 11:37:40 AM
I agree Uladh wil be a big improvement...but surely this means that the county board are very confident that the athletic grounds will be ready for the county final...positive move....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 10, 2008, 04:01:46 PM
Just out of interest would it be the cross footing the bill for the relaying of the pitch or would the county board be chipping in saying thay have used it for county games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 10, 2008, 10:01:41 PM
Not sure but i assume there would be funding from somewhere, for eg Newry & Mourne council or Ulster Council
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on May 10, 2008, 10:50:56 PM
tirnanog beat port mor by 2 points 2nite.  port mor missed a pen with 5 to go after a dodgy call by the ref.  have to admit port mor are the dirtiest team ive seen in years, referee barny henry let the game get out of control by letting a port mor fella kick someone into the air after 10 seconds. port mor weren't interested in playing football but the portadown men will be glad to have come away with the 2 points.  teams will have to fight for results in blackwater this year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 11, 2008, 12:48:34 AM
Quote from: crossfire on May 10, 2008, 10:01:41 PM
Not sure but i assume there would be funding from somewhere, for eg Newry & Mourne council or Ulster Council


Seriously doubt if Cross would be paying for it


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 11, 2008, 03:50:22 PM
Cross beat Dromintee today by 13 points.

Very weak Dromintee side out today, the weakest fielded in the league yet. Thats not to say that Cross weren't missing players also but as far as squad goes we can't compete with their depth and we were basically missing the core of our team. We were something like 11 down at half-time there didn't seem to be anyway back for us and in fairness Cross didn't even look like they were trying in the second half.

Few off the ball incidents as usual, suppose it was to be expected. Tough defeat to take, especially when we scored a goal in the second half and it was greeted by ironic cheers from the Cross faithful on the line - a la Old trafford as if Derby had just scored to make it 6-1. To be expected also I suppose.

Anyway 4 years ago we beat Cross by 17 points in the league and that year we made the mistake of believing it was worth more than just two league points. When the situation is the other way round now we won't make the mistake in thinking that today means anything other than two points dropped.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on May 11, 2008, 05:18:46 PM
I went to this game thinking it could through up a fairly interesting challenge considering both teams were very under strength, but truthfully the class really showed in the first 5mins.  When you consider cross have 8 first team players away with Armagh the way they took off from the start it was like a whirl wind and Dromintee didn't know were to turn.  The score line could have been more if not for a brilliant save by the Dromintee keeper in both half's.  Cross looked extremely sharp or maybe the Dromintee lads just were very unfit.
Even with the Armagh connection, Dromintee face a mountain come championship time considering what cross have to come back in also.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 11, 2008, 05:33:20 PM
'bridge beat Ballymacnab by a point.

Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 11, 2008, 05:41:58 PM
[quote author=doire na raithe link=topic=769.msg289965#msg289965 date=1210517422

Few off the ball incidents as usual, suppose it was to be expected.

Why ?? Do yous have them every week
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on May 11, 2008, 07:15:34 PM
Good win for st pats vs Mullaghbwn 13 points to 1.3. Good win for our lads without county men and Ciaran o Hare. Gifted Mullaghbawn an early goal but came back in to it well to lead by 8 pts to 1.2 at the interval.Couple of early points in the second half killed the game off though Mullaghbawn unlucky not to get a goal as Conor O Neill pulled off a terrific save. Good performance from Owen Casey and Niall and Conor Mc Shane in defence, Mal and Barry Mc Conville in midfield and Eugene Casey 0.8 and Ciaran O Neill in attack. Gives us four wins from five games. Tough week end next week end though with Cross and Pearse Ogs both away from home.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 11, 2008, 07:15:57 PM
Cullaville 1-10 Harps 0-14.  Unfortunately the ref was the only man in the place who thought it was a draw and actually gave a draw - eventhough 5fm were there and gave the result as 14 to 1-10 to the Harps.  He was a f**king laughin stock at the end and the sad thing is he'll probably hand in that score to the county board and we'll get screwed- although we will sure as f**k be lodging an objection. >:( >:(

REf was Vinceny O'Neill? from Cullyhanna, thought he did quite well during the game as it was a nasty enough game in parts - Chucky Morris got a complete judasing by one of the Hatzers, unsuprisingly the cullaville umpire seen nothing so he got away with it.

Great result for the Harps considering we were badly depleted, we showed a lot of fight and balls in the second half when Cullaville always managed to keep 2 or 3 ahead we never dropped the heads and got our reward in the end (I hope). Everyone played well with Philly McKinney, Kevin Kelly(0-4) & Collie Holmes dominant around the MF area.  Sean & Paddy Morrison contributed well in the forwards and Ebby worked his socks off as usual.  Joe Quigley got sent off near the end for a seemingly inoquous bump into the ref ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 11, 2008, 07:17:32 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on May 11, 2008, 07:15:34 PM
Good win for st pats vs Mullaghbwn 13 points to 1.3. Good win for our lads without county men and Ciaran o Hare. Gifted Mullaghbawn an early goal but came back in to it well to lead by 8 pts to 1.2 at the interval.Couple of early points in the second half killed the game off though Mullaghbawn unlucky not to get a goal as Conor O Neill pulled off a terrific save. Good performance from Owen Casey and Niall and Conor Mc Shane in defence, Mal and Barry Mc Conville in midfield and Eugene Casey 0.8 and Ciaran O Neill in attack. Gives us four wins from five games. Tough week end next week end though with Cross and Pearse Ogs both away from home.

And we can pass your best wishes on to Conall Quinn as well? - or are you as cowardly as your club mates?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 11, 2008, 07:39:43 PM
PINTS

How is Conal Quinn ?

I hope he makes a full recovery.

Is he a son of Anthony ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 11, 2008, 07:51:01 PM
Quote from: crossfire on May 11, 2008, 07:39:43 PM
PINTS

How is Conal Quinn ?

I hope he makes a full recovery.

Is he a son of Anthony ?

I'm not sure of his da's name crossfire, his mother is Mary.  Conal will be fine thank God, very lucky lad.  I only heard the other day that a lad with him (I don't know if he is from Cross or Mullaghbawn - I've heard both) went to get to Conal's defence and needed 20 stiches in the back of his head, but he'll be fine too.  It's a pity Pats-mc didn't think it worthy to comment, I wonder did Tasker and Hoey play well for them today?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 11, 2008, 08:13:24 PM
Hoey's not a bad player either.
It's a shame.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on May 11, 2008, 08:14:48 PM
newtown bt keady by 3 goals.poor game
othr div 2 resulys
granmor 1-12 c eireann 1-13  c eireann flyin
cruppen 1-13 sarfield 2-11   cruppen beat again
nab 1-10 bridge 1-11   pintsofguiness wil b happy
w tone 0-06 wcross 0-09  1st win for wcross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 11, 2008, 08:43:18 PM
GOH04 Dromintee were missing nine and I believe Cross were missing nines so what not as if we were not missing players.

The keeper done very well, he is a class keeper that is overl ooked.

Crossfire I don't know what your point is but there is usually a couple of niggles when Cross and Dromintee meet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 11, 2008, 08:52:30 PM
Yes Pints der was two other boys from mullaghbawn badly hurt too,quiet lads  - last u would expect to get hit jus like conalll..

Have to be honest, C-hanna's hunger and passion today was something to see....fully deserved their victory..we look tired and disinterested...young O'neill(armagh minor) for pats looks a real prospect and mal seems to be playin the best football of his life..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 11, 2008, 08:55:56 PM
BTW Benny Vincie is actually a decent referee. He obviously blundered today, but just pointing out that he is one of the referees who are nmot on a power trip.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 11, 2008, 09:11:31 PM
i suppose i better comment on cruppen's defeat today before i am accused of being a 'win only' poster again!

the old cliche of a game of two halfs certainly is the story of cruppens season!

in the first half against silverbridge, whitecross and again today against sarsfields played some superb stuff only for to come out in the second half and play nothing at all! we continue to give away the freakest of goals in the defence that are costing us dearly!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 11, 2008, 09:26:47 PM
wasat the tones whitecross game.we where pathetic in the 1st half only 1 point we scored was 7-1 at the interval.lost 3 on the bounce now and play sarsfields next sunday so thats not good form to be heading in2 that with esp with them getting a great result in cruppen2day.  our main prob is that we continue to play the ball in2 the corners for the forwards or they run it there themselves!

went to clans maghery in the evening!draw clans will say point dropped, great hospitality at the gate winsam/illdecide student rate of a £1 :D.james lavery was on the line dont know what that about??and forker played chf!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 11, 2008, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 11, 2008, 09:26:47 PM
.james lavery was on the line dont know what that about??and forker played chf!

What about Portugal?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on May 11, 2008, 10:38:56 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 11, 2008, 08:43:18 PM
GOH04 Dromintee were missing nine and I believe Cross were missing nines so what not as if we were not missing players.

The keeper done very well, he is a class keeper that is overl ooked.

Crossfire I don't know what your point is but there is usually a couple of niggles when Cross and Dromintee meet.
I meant actual Armagh players or panelists?, surely Dromintee don't have 9 players on it as well.  I just thought they had the O'Rourkes, shannon & O'Neill on it.
What was that no.14 at slamming the ball to the net 3/4 times after he scored the pen, was he just so glad to get a kick at it considering that McKeown fella never gave him a sniff the entire game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on May 11, 2008, 10:47:42 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 11, 2008, 07:15:57 PM
Cullaville 1-10 Harps 0-14.  Unfortunately the ref was the only man in the place who thought it was a draw and actually gave a draw - eventhough 5fm were there and gave the result as 14 to 1-10 to the Harps.  He was a f**king laughin stock at the end and the sad thing is he'll probably hand in that score to the county board and we'll get screwed- although we will sure as f**k be lodging an objection. >:( >:(

REf was Vinceny O'Neill? from Cullyhanna, thought he did quite well during the game as it was a nasty enough game in parts - Chucky Morris got a complete judasing by one of the Hatzers, unsuprisingly the cullaville umpire seen nothing so he got away with it.

Great result for the Harps considering we were badly depleted, we showed a lot of fight and balls in the second half when Cullaville always managed to keep 2 or 3 ahead we never dropped the heads and got our reward in the end (I hope). Everyone played well with Philly McKinney, Kevin Kelly(0-4) & Collie Holmes dominant around the MF area.  Sean & Paddy Morrison contributed well in the forwards and Ebby worked his socks off as usual.  Joe Quigley got sent off near the end for a seemingly inoquous bump into the ref ??? ???

Wouldn't hold my breath on an objection..............Harps have been "doormats" for years and nothing has changed.

As for the Cullaville player getting away with it.........who were they going to bring on to "right the wrong".........the Grimleys? ::)

K. Kelly scored some great scores but his work rate was piss poor, for a big strong lad he should be knocking on the door of County football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 11, 2008, 11:44:56 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 08, 2008, 12:35:14 PM
Is there a game goes by when Clans ones don't whinge about refs ??? Take some responsibility for your own actions ffs.

:D :D Got Quigley again today refereeing us and for once in his career he actually was decent for us. If anything he gave us a lot softer frees than maghery. It must be the good weather or something that is in the air.

Benny my lad i thought it was just the clans folk that complained about the refs. I think this is the best case of irony i have witnesses on this board. Take some responsibility for you own actions benny and accept that vincy can count  :D :D

By the way we drew tonight with maghery in a scrappy enough game. On this performance there will be a relegation scrap looming for both teams. Piss poor is an understatement.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 11, 2008, 11:47:57 PM
Oh and charlie the £1 in at the gate thing, this is why we are struggling finacially by not stinging you country folk  :D :D Your probably over 30 too  :D :D mature student.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 12, 2008, 12:04:40 AM
Quote from: goh4205 on May 11, 2008, 10:38:56 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 11, 2008, 08:43:18 PM
GOH04 Dromintee were missing nine and I believe Cross were missing nines so what not as if we were not missing players.

The keeper done very well, he is a class keeper that is overl ooked.

Crossfire I don't know what your point is but there is usually a couple of niggles when Cross and Dromintee meet.
I meant actual Armagh players or panelists?, surely Dromintee don't have 9 players on it as well.  I just thought they had the O'Rourkes, shannon & O'Neill on it.
What was that no.14 at slamming the ball to the net 3/4 times after he scored the pen, was he just so glad to get a kick at it considering that McKeown fella never gave him a sniff the entire game.

We were missing just as many as Cross today, not just our county players but many injuries which we have suffered over the last week as Corn02 has pointed out. But as I said Cross' depth in squad is superior to ours and it was clear to see today - not least due to the fact that the club is significantly bigger than ours.

Didn't see our number 14 kicking the ball into the net 3-4 times after he scored the penalty? If so how is this even a point worthy of raising?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on May 12, 2008, 12:59:09 AM
Diet Coke, didn't make it up to the game today, but two players and a supporter said to me that Kelly's work rate was actually a lot higher than usual, tracking back etc... Just goes to show how easy it is to have differing opinions on a game I suppose.. but as for county football, he may have been a good u21 but still think he's very far away from senior standard.

On the topic of the game, how the hell could the referee have made such a terrible decision on the scoreline! Heard from a few at the game that it was certainly a 1 point victory to the Harps, now I know people come on here and whine about how bad referee's in the county are, but surely this is as clear a case as possible, its probably his most important job of the entire game and he can't do it right? Apparently the Culloville officals made themselves scarce fairly quickly when the ref called a draw...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 12, 2008, 08:28:40 AM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 11 MAY 2008


Thursday 8 May

ACL – Division Three
Crossmaglen II 1-14; Collegeland 4-9


Friday 9 May

ACL – Division Two
Clann Eireann 2-12; Ballymacnab 0-11

ACL – Division Three
Grange 0-9; St Paul's 1-12
Annaghmore 1-12; St Peter's 1-7

ACL – Division Four
Mullaghbrack 1-8; O'Hanlon's 1-10
Eire Og 1-15; Derrynoose 0-5


Saturday 10 May

ACL – Division Two
An Port Mor 1-8; Tir na nÓg 0-13


Sunday 11 May

ACL – Division One
Culloville 1-10; Harps 0-13
Dromintee 1-5; Crossmaglen 2-15
Pearse Og 3-12; Killeavey 0-13
St Patrick's 0-13; Mullaghbawn 1-3
Clan na Gael v Maghery

ACL – Division Two
Granemore 1-12; Clann Eireann 1-13
Carrickcruppen 1-13; Sarsfields 2-11
Keady 0-8; St Michael's 3-8
Ballymacnab 1-10; Silverbridge 1-11
Wolfe Tones 0-5; Whitecross 0-9

ACL – Division Three
Tullysaran 0-8; Belleek 1-11
Madden 2-11; Clonmore 1-13
Lissummon 3-7; Ballyhegan 0-11

ACL – Division Four
Dorsey Emmett's 1-7; Eire Og 3-10
Derrynoose 2-13; Forkhill 1-6
Clady 0-12; Middletown 0-12
Corrinshego 4-7; Phelim Brady's 0-6
Bye – Shane O'Neill's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 12, 2008, 08:45:42 AM
Pearse Ogs beat Killeavey yesterday 3-12 to 0-13.  The game was played at a very high tempo with the Ogs opening the scoreline with a goal straight from the throw in.  killeavey replied 5 mins later with a point followed quickly by another goal from the Ogs.  It was more or less point for point for a bit after this but Killeavey started to dominate in the last 10 minutes of the first half scoring 4 or 5 without reply.

Half time score was 2-7 to 0-9

Ogs openied the second half with 2 points and started to stamp some authority on the game.  Killeavey were fired up as ever and kept pushing until a Goal from Decy Mcmanus put the game out of reach in the last ten minutes. 

A good result in the end to win by 8 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 12, 2008, 08:47:13 AM

In fairness to vincey o'neill he's usually one of the better refs about.
mistakes happen i suppose.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 12, 2008, 09:04:13 AM
GOH4 yes I am sure he was frustrated. He did kick the ball into the net three times but that is a very weird point to raise. He scored the penalty and the ball rolled back to him and he whacked it in again, so what?

5 county panelists plus our starting midfielder and full back, plus another starter. All three have some county experience.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 12, 2008, 09:14:45 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 11, 2008, 11:44:56 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 08, 2008, 12:35:14 PM
Is there a game goes by when Clans ones don't whinge about refs ??? Take some responsibility for your own actions ffs.

:D :D Got Quigley again today refereeing us and for once in his career he actually was decent for us. If anything he gave us a lot softer frees than maghery. It must be the good weather or something that is in the air.

Benny my lad i thought it was just the clans folk that complained about the refs. I think this is the best case of irony i have witnesses on this board. Take some responsibility for you own actions benny and accept that vincy can count  :D :D

By the way we drew tonight with maghery in a scrappy enough game. On this performance there will be a relegation scrap looming for both teams. Piss poor is an understatement.
AS I've already stated, I thought the ref did well in a nasty enough game, his arithmetic skills are a different matter however.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 12, 2008, 09:24:47 AM
If ref made a mistake regarding the scoreline, and game was reported live on radio, surely this could be used to clarify the score and determine the result once and for all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 12, 2008, 09:26:09 AM
What did the referee send Joe off for Benny? What's down in the book?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 12, 2008, 09:30:40 AM
He reckoned Joe pushed him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 12, 2008, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 12, 2008, 09:30:40 AM
He reckoned Joe pushed him.

That's just no luck
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on May 12, 2008, 10:23:35 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 09, 2008, 08:08:14 PM
Quote from: mackers on May 09, 2008, 12:31:50 PM
Not sure whether I'm one of the "usual Cullyhanna posters" that's being talked about, but just to be clear that I'm not a "Cullyhanna poster" and that I agree that those who beat the Bridge lad up should be reported to the Gardai and hopefully get jail for what they've done. I would associate that sort of behaviour with the soccer thugs in England not GAA people in south Armagh. Hope the lad makes a full and speedy recovery.

What club are you from again Mackers?
Will Cullyhanna be investigating the incident, I assume the two main culprits lined out for them the other night? 
I hope the St Patricks gfc is proud of them.

I'm a born and bred Armagh City man who played some very limited under age football for the Harps. As I told you last year, my main interest would be the county team, I would travel to the ends of the country to watch the county team and try to take in as much club football as possible.
With regard to whether Cullyhanna are going to investigate the matter I'm sure you'll agree the incident surpasses anything that a football club could police and should be handled by the Gardai as it was a criminal act.
I'm sure all decent Cullyhanna members are NOT proud of them, you're back to tarring everyone with the same brush.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 12, 2008, 10:32:16 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 11, 2008, 07:17:32 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on May 11, 2008, 07:15:34 PM
Good win for st pats vs Mullaghbwn 13 points to 1.3. Good win for our lads without county men and Ciaran o Hare. Gifted Mullaghbawn an early goal but came back in to it well to lead by 8 pts to 1.2 at the interval.Couple of early points in the second half killed the game off though Mullaghbawn unlucky not to get a goal as Conor O Neill pulled off a terrific save. Good performance from Owen Casey and Niall and Conor Mc Shane in defence, Mal and Barry Mc Conville in midfield and Eugene Casey 0.8 and Ciaran O Neill in attack. Gives us four wins from five games. Tough week end next week end though with Cross and Pearse Ogs both away from home.

And we can pass your best wishes on to Conall Quinn as well? - or are you as cowardly as your club mates?

thats a we bit OTT Pints, you can't tar everyone with the same brush.

BTW you're Bridge mate actually gave us a few decisions yesterday, i suppose he owed us a few decisions ;) ;) or was it that it was just 2 north Armagh teams and he didn't give a feck ??? ???

P.S. i didn't think he'd have a neck to come back to Lurgan after last week but there you go...you couldn't cut that fella with a Stanley Knife :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 12, 2008, 11:23:24 AM
Margery game was very poor, both teams really struggling at the minute. We have 8 out injured at the minute and can't cope, in fairness the Margery line looked every bit as bad as ours with injury after injury. James Livery and forker did not travel with AMA as i heard the Margery men saying they had exams (not sure if they were talking about both players) although obviously Livery was injured as he didn't take part in the game but Forker did.

What is going on with clubs and injury's at the minute, Dominate, Margery, Clans etc etc have a casualty list the length of you're arm. Is it just bad luck or are they doing something wrong in training?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 12, 2008, 11:39:45 AM
These slang interpretations by you i'll decide will have to stop.

Benny you are now saying you are not complaining about the ref???

But i am surely reading posts from you stating he got the score wrong and cost the harps two points (Complaint)

Secondly apparently joe pushed him ( complaint) as you are hinting that joe didn't and that he was hard done by)

So it is official it ain't just clans folk that complain about the referees. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 12, 2008, 11:47:46 AM
Move on...  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 12, 2008, 12:23:12 PM
Think we are down to play Dromintee on Friday night at 7.30pm.  Are the County men allowed to play or is that it until after championship time?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 12, 2008, 12:28:26 PM
They will be playing I would expect Benjamin.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 12, 2008, 12:49:59 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 12, 2008, 11:47:46 AM
Move on...  :-\

I know Winsam FFS build a bridge son ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 12, 2008, 01:44:43 PM
QUOTE FROM GOH 4205

"What was the No 14 at, slamming the ball to the net 3/4 times after he scored the pen."


TO DOIRE NA RAITHE

Perhaps the above might have been the reason for the "ironic cheers from the Cross faithful" that you describe. !!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 12, 2008, 01:56:52 PM
i'll decide when we move on  :D :D.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Broken_Cross on May 12, 2008, 04:05:51 PM
where's the updated tables ffs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on May 12, 2008, 04:12:33 PM
They're on Orchardcounty.com
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 12, 2008, 06:54:14 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 12, 2008, 10:32:16 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 11, 2008, 07:17:32 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on May 11, 2008, 07:15:34 PM
Good win for st pats vs Mullaghbwn 13 points to 1.3. Good win for our lads without county men and Ciaran o Hare. Gifted Mullaghbawn an early goal but came back in to it well to lead by 8 pts to 1.2 at the interval.Couple of early points in the second half killed the game off though Mullaghbawn unlucky not to get a goal as Conor O Neill pulled off a terrific save. Good performance from Owen Casey and Niall and Conor Mc Shane in defence, Mal and Barry Mc Conville in midfield and Eugene Casey 0.8 and Ciaran O Neill in attack. Gives us four wins from five games. Tough week end next week end though with Cross and Pearse Ogs both away from home.

And we can pass your best wishes on to Conall Quinn as well? - or are you as cowardly as your club mates?

thats a we bit OTT Pints, you can't tar everyone with the same brush.

BTW you're Bridge mate actually gave us a few decisions yesterday, i suppose he owed us a few decisions ;) ;) or was it that it was just 2 north Armagh teams and he didn't give a feck ??? ???

P.S. i didn't think he'd have a neck to come back to Lurgan after last week but there you go...you couldn't cut that fella with a Stanley Knife :D :D

Why is it ott to expect a cullyhanna poster to comment on something that affects his club and that's been discussed here this week?
If clans were involved I'm sure you would comment as would I if it was the 'bridge.  Also, how am I tarring everyone with the same brush? (same question goes to you mackers).

I'm glad quigley pleased you this week, maybe he doesn't have that vendetta against clans then? 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 12, 2008, 07:31:27 PM
Sorry to learn of the sudden death of your well-known Armagh Harps ticket seller, Mick Carson.
Abbey Park will not be the same again without Big Mick and his selling of your Half-Time Draw tickets.  He was a civil big fella and always had a good word for everyone.
Any details of the funeral arrangements?
May his soul rest in peace.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 08:00:01 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 12, 2008, 09:04:13 AM
GOH4 yes I am sure he was frustrated. He did kick the ball into the net three times but that is a very weird point to raise. He scored the penalty and the ball rolled back to him and he whacked it in again, so what?

5 county panelists plus our starting midfielder and full back, plus another starter. All three have some county experience.
Corn, it was just a weird thing to do & it probably showed his frustration at been totally out played the entire game.  If you class that as a weird point to raise, then one could class alot of point on this board as weird. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 12, 2008, 08:43:30 PM
Well you were the one who asked the question and now it seems as though you've answered your own question which begs the question, why did you feel the need to ask it in the first place if you already knew the answer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 12, 2008, 08:46:23 PM
FFs tell me we're not still talking about the fact that someone kicked the ball back into the net after scoring a goal!

What does it matter? Who gives a f**k?
If someone thinks it's a weird thing to do they don't watch much sport!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 09:43:02 PM
Is this not a discussion board  :-\

Pints, you should read some of your own posts, before commenting on anyone else's.  bit of a pot calling kettle if you get my drift.

Sounds like Dromintee posters don't like getting asked to many questions when beaten, but I'm sure would be glad to answer anything if on the winning side of the fence.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 12, 2008, 10:02:19 PM
QuotePints, you should read some of your own posts, before commenting on anyone else's.  bit of a pot calling kettle if you get my drift.
Why what's wrong with them?


Seriously, why is someone kicking a ball back into the net after they've scored such a big deal? Have you never seen anyone do this in GAA before or in any other sport?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 12, 2008, 10:14:06 PM
QuoteTough defeat to take, especially when we scored a goal in the second half and it was greeted by ironic cheers from the Cross faithful on the line - a la Old trafford as if Derby had just scored to make it 6-1. To be expected also I suppose.

A bit like the "Drive it home to them" that was liberally shouted when you beat us by 17 points that day a few years back.  You are right in one thing, it means fcuk all squared come championship, and I think Cross will know that better than most and not let a big win go to their heads.  I would reckon that only 3-4 of the Cross team from Sunday will pay championship against you anyway. 

As for the lad kicking it into the net after scoring the goal, jaysus give the lad a break, it's not everyday you score a goal against Cross, he must have been fierce proud of himself and overcome with emotion :P

At this early stage in the season, how are things shaping out?  Does anyone look like making a serious concerted effort to break the Cross dominance?   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 12, 2008, 10:27:44 PM
Realistically cant see it happening, until Donaldson, two Macs, Bellew and Oisin hang up the boots, and even with that its likely a new group of leaders will emerge within the squad, but whoever they are its hard to see them having the same impact that these aforementioned five do, and then we may have a competitive county championship!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 10:36:13 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 12, 2008, 10:14:06 PM
QuoteTough defeat to take, especially when we scored a goal in the second half and it was greeted by ironic cheers from the Cross faithful on the line - a la Old trafford as if Derby had just scored to make it 6-1. To be expected also I suppose.

A bit like the "Drive it home to them" that was liberally shouted when you beat us by 17 points that day a few years back.  You are right in one thing, it means fcuk all squared come championship, and I think Cross will know that better than most and not let a big win go to their heads.  I would reckon that only 3-4 of the Cross team from Sunday will pay championship against you anyway. 

As for the lad kicking it into the net after scoring the goal, jaysus give the lad a break, it's not everyday you score a goal against Cross, he must have been fierce proud of himself and overcome with emotion :P

That must have been what it was BC1, funny cross scored 2 goals and non of the 2 lads who scored acted like that, but as you say since they don't often score points against cross, apart from the occassion you mention never mind goals he probably thought he was doctor who :D :D :D

At this early stage in the season, how are things shaping out?  Does anyone look like making a serious concerted effort to break the Cross dominance?   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 10:38:54 PM
That must have been what it was BC1, funny cross scored 2 goals and non of the 2 lads who scored acted like that, but as you say since they don't often score points against cross, apart from the occassion you mention never mind goals he probably thought he was doctor who :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 10:45:26 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on May 12, 2008, 10:27:44 PM
Realistically cant see it happening, until Donaldson, two Macs, Bellew and Oisin hang up the boots, and even with that its likely a new group of leaders will emerge within the squad, but whoever they are its hard to see them having the same impact that these aforementioned five do, and then we may have a competitive county championship!!


I thought that hanratty lad had super game from what i seen, he's a strong lad who could put it up to most midfielders in the county. infact the above mentioned who played yesterday were pretty quite it was the younger crop who made all the play, but it is probably insurance for the younger crop of players knowing that they have the lads above to fall back on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 12, 2008, 10:55:14 PM
If these young lads were playing with any other club in the county, i believe most of them wouldnt develop into the players they now are or potentially can be!!
Its as a result of playing with and perhaps more importantly training with these fellas that has created this domination which is going to be mighty difficult for any other club in the county to break anytime soon!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 13, 2008, 09:05:19 AM
GOH you are going on like a child. I will answer any questions when we are beaten and will admit we were beaten by a better team. I never dissapear from here when we are beaten. It was  obvious he kicked it into the net in frustration at the scoreline.

BC fair enough but many of those cheers were due to the fact JD acted like a thug and tried  to get the game abandoned.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 13, 2008, 11:06:20 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 12, 2008, 06:54:14 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 12, 2008, 10:32:16 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 11, 2008, 07:17:32 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on May 11, 2008, 07:15:34 PM
Good win for st pats vs Mullaghbwn 13 points to 1.3. Good win for our lads without county men and Ciaran o Hare. Gifted Mullaghbawn an early goal but came back in to it well to lead by 8 pts to 1.2 at the interval.Couple of early points in the second half killed the game off though Mullaghbawn unlucky not to get a goal as Conor O Neill pulled off a terrific save. Good performance from Owen Casey and Niall and Conor Mc Shane in defence, Mal and Barry Mc Conville in midfield and Eugene Casey 0.8 and Ciaran O Neill in attack. Gives us four wins from five games. Tough week end next week end though with Cross and Pearse Ogs both away from home.

And we can pass your best wishes on to Conall Quinn as well? - or are you as cowardly as your club mates?

thats a we bit OTT Pints, you can't tar everyone with the same brush.

BTW you're Bridge mate actually gave us a few decisions yesterday, i suppose he owed us a few decisions ;) ;) or was it that it was just 2 north Armagh teams and he didn't give a feck ??? ???

P.S. i didn't think he'd have a neck to come back to Lurgan after last week but there you go...you couldn't cut that fella with a Stanley Knife :D :D

Why is it ott to expect a cullyhanna poster to comment on something that affects his club and that's been discussed here this week?
If clans were involved I'm sure you would comment as would I if it was the 'bridge.  Also, how am I tarring everyone with the same brush? (same question goes to you mackers).

I'm glad quigley pleased you this week, maybe he doesn't have that vendetta against clans then? 



well you were trying to get a we dig in saying are you a coward like the rest of the Cullyhanna men ::) I have no legions to anyone up in you're neck of the woods but you don't know anything about this lad yet you're asking him is he a coward. I just thought that was a bit OTT. If someone in my club is a coward (which we have about 7 on our senior team) that doesn't make me a coward in fact i'm the complete opposite (just picturing myself now like Braveheart ;) :D)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on May 13, 2008, 11:24:04 AM
William Wallace is 7 feet tall and he shoots size 5 O'Neills out of his arse !!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 13, 2008, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 09:43:02 PM
Is this not a discussion board  :-\

Pints, you should read some of your own posts, before commenting on anyone else's.  bit of a pot calling kettle if you get my drift.

Sounds like Dromintee posters don't like getting asked to many questions when beaten, but I'm sure would be glad to answer anything if on the winning side of the fence.

Quote from: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 10:38:54 PM
That must have been what it was BC1, funny cross scored 2 goals and non of the 2 lads who scored acted like that, but as you say since they don't often score points against cross, apart from the occassion you mention never mind goals he probably thought he was doctor who :D :D :D

God I really wanna stop talking about this but basically you know yourself and its clear to everyone else that when you asked "why did your number 14 kick the ball into the net 3-4 times after scoring" you didn't raise it as a valid question, which was proven by the fact that you answered your own question. It was a childish attempt to take the piss, and hardly an issue thats worth being raised on a discussion board.

Doctor who???? Is this really the height of your humour? The craic must be ninety in your house of a saturday night. BC1 are you not ashamed to be posting alongside such an idiot?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 13, 2008, 11:45:22 AM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 13, 2008, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 09:43:02 PM
Is this not a discussion board  :-\

Pints, you should read some of your own posts, before commenting on anyone else's.  bit of a pot calling kettle if you get my drift.

Sounds like Dromintee posters don't like getting asked to many questions when beaten, but I'm sure would be glad to answer anything if on the winning side of the fence.

Quote from: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 10:38:54 PM
That must have been what it was BC1, funny cross scored 2 goals and non of the 2 lads who scored acted like that, but as you say since they don't often score points against cross, apart from the occassion you mention never mind goals he probably thought he was doctor who :D :D :D

God I really wanna stop talking about this but basically you know yourself and its clear to everyone else that when you asked "why did your number 14 kick the ball into the net 3-4 times after scoring" you didn't raise it as a valid question, which was proven by the fact that you answered your own question. It was a childish attempt to take the piss, and hardly an issue thats worth being raised on a discussion board.

Doctor who???? Is this really the height of your humour? The craic must be ninety in your house of a saturday night. BC1 are you not ashamed to be posting alongside such an idiot?

Each to their own is what I saw.  I would always back up one of my own.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 13, 2008, 11:48:28 AM
Quote from: billy the kid on May 13, 2008, 11:24:04 AM
William Wallace is 7 feet tall and he shoots size 5 O'Neills out of his arse !!!

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 13, 2008, 11:58:07 AM
ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Pearse Og 5 4 1 0 9
St Patrick's 5 4 0 1 8
Crossmaglen 4 3 1 0 7
Mullaghbawn 5 3 1 1 7
Culloville 4 2 1 1 5
Dromintee 6 2 1 3 5
Clan na Gael 6 1 2 3 4
Harps 6 1 2 3 4
Killeavey 6 1 0 5 2
Maghery 4 0 1 3 1

If that C*nt O'neill had done his job properly we would be joint 6th with Clans....

Next up Dromintee, Maghery & The Pigs (Sorry I mean Pearse Og  ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 13, 2008, 01:26:58 PM
And if quigley would have done the clans and the harps game correctly you wouldn't even have had that extra points candyman so dry your eyes. You are were you deserve to be as does ours.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 13, 2008, 02:38:39 PM
Well said Winsamsoon

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 13, 2008, 02:42:56 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 13, 2008, 01:26:58 PM
And if quigley would have done the clans and the harps game correctly you wouldn't even have had that extra points candyman so dry your eyes. You are were you deserve to be as does ours.

Ach FFS catch yourself on... there is a BIG difference between a referee not giving a few decisions and not being able to count when EVERYONE except himself (including the live radio commentary) knows Harps scored 14 points!!!!  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 13, 2008, 02:46:20 PM
I know I shoudln't bite but - What winsam conveniently seems to be forgetting is that Quigley was the one who gave the Clans a joke of a free to equalise right at the death against the Harps, yet he hasn't shut up about how much Quigley hates the clans since ::)  I wouldn't doubt the Quigley does hate them, because no one f**cking likes them, biggest crying hoors ever!! :-*

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 13, 2008, 02:53:21 PM
ACL – Division One (7.30)
Crossmaglen v St Patrick's (Mickey Leonard) at Silverbridge
Maghery v Pearse Og (Kevin Murtagh)
Dromintee v Harps (Stephen Murray)

ACL – Division Three (7.30)
Tullysaran v Crossmaglen II (Jim Lynch)

ACL – Division Four (7.30)
Mullaghbrack v Dorsey Emmett's (Noel Martin)


Sunday 18 May

ACL – Division One (2.00)
Maghery v Crossmaglen (Barney Henry)
Killeavey v Clan na Gael (Frank McDonald)
Mullaghbawn v Culloville (Oliver Hearty)
St Patrick's v Pearse Og (Damian McConville)

ACL – Division Two (2.00)
Tir na nÓg v Ballymacnab (Dessie McDonnell)
Whitecross v An Port Mor (Paudie Hughes)
Keady v Granemore (Off)
St Michael's v Carrickcruppen (Gary Smith)
Sarsfields v Wolfe Tones (Brendan Gorman)
Silverbridge v Clann Eireann (Noel Martin)

ACL – Division Three (2.00)
Belleek v Lissummon (Vincent O'Neill)
Collegeland v Tullysaran (Jim Burns)
St Peter's v Grange (Sean McClelland)
Annaghmore v Madden (Off)
Clonmore v Crossmaglen II (Paul Boylan)
Ballyhegan v St Paul's (Patrick Duffy)

ACL – Division Four (2.00)
Forkhill v Dorsey Emmett's (Rory Robinson)
Middletown v Derrynoose (Off)
O'Hanlon's v Clady (Malachy McNicholl)
Phelim Brady's v Mullaghbrack (Joe Murtagh)
Shane O'Neill's v Corrinshego (Jim Lynch)
Bye – Eire Og


Predictions for this weeks games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 13, 2008, 02:53:35 PM
Quote from: Candyman on May 13, 2008, 02:42:56 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 13, 2008, 01:26:58 PM
And if quigley would have done the clans and the harps game correctly you wouldn't even have had that extra points candyman so dry your eyes. You are were you deserve to be as does ours.

Ach FFS catch yourself on... there is a BIG difference between a referee not giving a few decisions and not being able to count when EVERYONE except himself (including the live radio commentary) knows Harps scored 14 points!!!!  >:(

That point could be crucial come the end of the year and that would piss me off worse than getting a few decisions against us, but i believe you won't need that point you should be well safe...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 13, 2008, 02:54:35 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 13, 2008, 02:46:20 PM
I know I shoudln't bite but - What winsam conveniently seems to be forgetting is that Quigley was the one who gave the Clans a joke of a free to equalise right at the death against the Harps, yet he hasn't shut up about how much Quigley hates the clans since ::)  I wouldn't doubt the Quigley does hate them, because no one f**cking likes them, biggest crying hoors ever!! :-*



thanks a lot Benny >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 13, 2008, 03:20:12 PM
To the best of my knowledge there are two guys currently crying on this thread now. It is Benny and candy . I don't think any of them are clans men  :D :D



Quote from: illdecide on May 13, 2008, 02:54:35 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 13, 2008, 02:46:20 PM
I know I shoudln't bite but - What winsam conveniently seems to be forgetting is that Quigley was the one who gave the Clans a joke of a free to equalise right at the death against the Harps, yet he hasn't shut up about how much Quigley hates the clans since ::)  I wouldn't doubt the Quigley does hate them, because no one f**cking likes them, biggest crying hoors ever!! :-*


So Benny you may want to rephrase all of the above  ;) and stop cracking like a duck egg. You are now trying justifiy criticism of refs when you were only telling us last week that it was only clans people who did this. Just because your own team was on the end of a wrong doing.

My point is I will acknowledge when any team is hard done by. By the sound of things the harps did actually get a bad doing and this was wrong. But it seems some of you guys can never admit any wrong doing when it involves anything to do with the clans. You have said it yourself benny you hate them as do many on the board. I don't share any love for the harps either but i will acknowledge when things are wrong.

That is all i ask and it is nothing to do with slabbering or anything else. We don't want any favours just fair play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 13, 2008, 03:41:11 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on May 13, 2008, 04:09:30 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 13, 2008, 11:36:39 AM
Quote from: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 09:43:02 PM
Is this not a discussion board  :-\

Pints, you should read some of your own posts, before commenting on anyone else's.  bit of a pot calling kettle if you get my drift.

Sounds like Dromintee posters don't like getting asked to many questions when beaten, but I'm sure would be glad to answer anything if on the winning side of the fence.

Quote from: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 10:38:54 PM
That must have been what it was BC1, funny cross scored 2 goals and non of the 2 lads who scored acted like that, but as you say since they don't often score points against cross, apart from the occassion you mention never mind goals he probably thought he was doctor who :D :D :D

God I really wanna stop talking about this but basically you know yourself and its clear to everyone else that when you asked "why did your number 14 kick the ball into the net 3-4 times after scoring" you didn't raise it as a valid question, which was proven by the fact that you answered your own question. It was a childish attempt to take the piss, and hardly an issue thats worth being raised on a discussion board.

Doctor who???? Is this really the height of your humour? The craic must be ninety in your house of a saturday night. BC1 are you not ashamed to be posting alongside such an idiot?

The fact that you have to insult me totally explains my point, I guess if someone from my club acted like that tool did then I'd be out fighting to defend him, then again i wouldn't.   BC1 is well able to speak for himself and doesn't need any jibes from you with the attempt to drag him into it, you Dromintee boys should know all about fighting among yourself.

before you imply about me been from Cross, can i inform you I'm not. I was there seeing the great new hope we have from Dromintee among our ranks & to be frank I wasn't impressed.  He was shit scared of an former county lion whom he didn't dare challenge not even once, which says a lot for our selection policy.  We have loads of fringe players like him already who are nothing more than average club players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 13, 2008, 04:10:46 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 13, 2008, 03:20:12 PM
To the best of my knowledge there are two guys currently crying on this thread now. It is Benny and candy . I don't think any of them are clans men  :D :D



Quote from: illdecide on May 13, 2008, 02:54:35 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 13, 2008, 02:46:20 PM
I know I shoudln't bite but - What winsam conveniently seems to be forgetting is that Quigley was the one who gave the Clans a joke of a free to equalise right at the death against the Harps, yet he hasn't shut up about how much Quigley hates the clans since ::)  I wouldn't doubt the Quigley does hate them, because no one f**cking likes them, biggest crying hoors ever!! :-*


So Benny you may want to rephrase all of the above  ;) and stop cracking like a duck egg. You are now trying justifiy criticism of refs when you were only telling us last week that it was only clans people who did this. Just because your own team was on the end of a wrong doing.

My point is I will acknowledge when any team is hard done by. By the sound of things the harps did actually get a bad doing and this was wrong. But it seems some of you guys can never admit any wrong doing when it involves anything to do with the clans. You have said it yourself benny you hate them as do many on the board. I don't share any love for the harps either but i will acknowledge when things are wrong.

That is all i ask and it is nothing to do with slabbering or anything else. We don't want any favours just fair play.
Where exactly have I justified ciriticising refs?? (not that I dont - I'd just like to know what you are raving about) and said that only Clans people do this?? ???

Regarding the clans, you are your own worst enemy, it can't be coincidence that you are the most widley hated team in Armagh? If you want fair play, shout your mouths, get on with the game, listen to ref's when they are trying to advise you ;D  Stop trying to be wanna-be shafties :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 13, 2008, 05:07:37 PM
GOH may I ask who this greta white hope from Dromintee was?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Against the Breeze on May 13, 2008, 05:08:17 PM
Quote
before you imply about me been from Cross, can i inform you I'm not. I was there seeing the great new hope we have from Dromintee among our ranks & to be frank I wasn't impressed.  He was shit scared of an former county lion whom he didn't dare challenge not even once, which says a lot for our selection policy.  We have loads of fringe players like him already who are nothing more than average club players.
Quote

Have being following this childish behaviour this past couple of days but know I am totally confused?  Who you talking about here GOH and if your not from Cross would you like to enlighten us as to what club you are from?


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 13, 2008, 05:12:00 PM
Ohhh the true colours are coming out now Benny ;) I have a disliking for a few teams in Armagh but hate would be a bit strong. It's a pity you have such hatred in you my friend (figure of speech, i know now you're not my friend cause you hate me :'()

I try my best on the board here to call a spade a spade, if we get beat by the better team i will say so. If vital decisions go against us i will also say so, indeed if a ref has a good game i will praise him. I don't run around with blue tinted glasses on me. Why don't you guys shut you're mouths and listen to the ref when he tells you that you drew and that you didn't win by a point ;) ;)

You see the diffference Benny ;) I thought it was a very bad error by the ref and i really didn't wanna say what i said but i'm just trying to point out that we all do a (some more than others) bit of slabbering now and again and to hate teams/people for it is a bit OTT :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on May 13, 2008, 05:38:01 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 13, 2008, 05:07:37 PM
GOH may I ask who this greta white hope from Dromintee was?

ah now corn, don't play the clown all the time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on May 13, 2008, 05:52:50 PM
Quote from: Against the Breeze on May 13, 2008, 05:08:17 PM
Quote
before you imply about me been from Cross, can i inform you I'm not. I was there seeing the great new hope we have from Dromintee among our ranks & to be frank I wasn't impressed.  He was shit scared of an former county lion whom he didn't dare challenge not even once, which says a lot for our selection policy.  We have loads of fringe players like him already who are nothing more than average club players.
Quote

Have being following this childish behaviour this past couple of days but know I am totally confused?  Who you talking about here GOH and if your not from Cross would you like to enlighten us as to what club you are from?




Clans in Dundalk, but don't see what difference it makes what club I'm from.  This is a discussion board open for all to comment on whatever they feel like regarding Gaelic games or whatever sport you like.
One thing is clear that you all sing from the same sheet when it comes to commenting on someone's posts. I simply asked why a Dromintee player acted in a child like manner, by ramming the ball to the net 3/4 times after scoring a pen. After several posts none of you failed to answer my question, so regardless if i answered my own question or not, the moral of the story is none of you were going to do it.  Infact it had to take another poster to through in a little humor before the lights went on.
and you's have the audacity to call my behaviour childish.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 13, 2008, 05:53:42 PM
Lads can i suggest we dont even entertain this lowlife any longer. His posts arent even in proper english, no wonder we cant make any sense out of him. He is clearly on the wind up and thrives on getting a reply out of us. So i suggest we completely ignore him from this point on, no matter what he says. That will be the best response.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 13, 2008, 05:58:45 PM
Goin thru cullyhanna tis evenin an there is serious unrest der lads... what is happenin in that area, the young ones were out stoning cars, the ice-cream van in front of me got his window put thru >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 13, 2008, 06:54:58 PM
Hope your yoke survived Real?

GOH I am with DnR on this one, you are a clown, you can not name a player because you are talking through your arse.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on May 13, 2008, 07:43:33 PM
you [Mod3] wouldn't answer my question anyway.

What they say about Dromintee people is probably right, bunch of [Mod 3]who only see there side of the fence.

Sorry for the language admin, they were basically saying the same only the didn't have the balls to say it.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 13, 2008, 07:52:26 PM
Their side of the fence, not there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 13, 2008, 07:57:30 PM
Still no imput on the Louth thread I see GOH,  a look through your previous posts confirm you are indeed a Cross man.

Leave the Cross comments to BC, he represents the club well on here.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Old Bill on May 13, 2008, 08:11:43 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 11, 2008, 03:50:22 PM
Cross beat Dromintee today by 13 points.

Very weak Dromintee side out today, the weakest fielded in the league yet. Thats not to say that Cross weren't missing players also but as far as squad goes we can't compete with their depth and we were basically missing the core of our team. We were something like 11 down at half-time there didn't seem to be anyway back for us and in fairness Cross didn't even look like they were trying in the second half.

Few off the ball incidents as usual, suppose it was to be expected. Tough defeat to take, especially when we scored a goal in the second half and it was greeted by ironic cheers from the Cross faithful on the line - a la Old trafford as if Derby had just scored to make it 6-1. To be expected also I suppose.

Anyway 4 years ago we beat Cross by 17 points in the league and that year we made the mistake of believing it was worth more than just two league points. When the situation is the other way round now we won't make the mistake in thinking that today means anything other than two points dropped.
cross and off the ball incidents? never!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 13, 2008, 08:23:20 PM
To be fair Dromintee were as guilty and the incidents were very minor and infrequent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on May 13, 2008, 08:31:27 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 13, 2008, 05:53:42 PM
Lads can i suggest we dont even entertain this lowlife any longer. His posts arent even in proper english, no wonder we cant make any sense out of him. He is clearly on the wind up and thrives on getting a reply out of us. So i suggest we completely ignore him from this point on, no matter what he says. That will be the best response.



doire na raithe - Would you not be safer doing a bit of revision  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 13, 2008, 09:19:18 PM
Lol your probably right, thats why I'm trying to ignore him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 13, 2008, 09:23:46 PM
Will yous just let it go!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 14, 2008, 09:46:29 AM
The mods deleted a comment of mine yesterday where literally all i said was "...did you hear something?"

Thats ridiculous, I'm sure this comment will probably be deleted as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 14, 2008, 09:53:57 AM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 14, 2008, 09:46:29 AM
The mods deleted a comment of mine yesterday where literally all i said was "...did you hear something?"

Thats ridiculous, I'm sure this comment will probably be deleted as well.

In fairness Doire I dont think it was the content of your post but more the quote that came along with it from GOH.  It must have just been deleted in this last half an hour because i read through them this morning.  I think it was in reference to a derogatory remark regarding you and Corn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 14, 2008, 10:35:52 AM
Goh i know why they are all slatting you now lad because you mentioned you were from the clans, albeit in dundalk. ;) You better watch yourself or benny and candyman will be telling you how much they hate you because you are associated with a team that belongs to the same organisation that they claim to be part of.

I think in the spirit of the GAA it is wrong to hate any club. Certainly it is possible to have bitter rivalries with clubs and even certain individuals at club. I don't think i would ever say i hated any club in Armagh or any other county for that. But i guess that is the difference between gaels and so called gaels.

I can take on the chin things that happen and move on without hating teams. It seems some board members store everything that has ever happened in their heads and cast it up at every opportunity. In other words they can't move on. Benny i would be very interested to know the reason behind your hatred of the Clan na Gael ??? I don't think slabbering will answer the question as all teams have slabbers, which would make you then hate all teams, including your own.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 14, 2008, 11:08:03 AM
I said you were the most hated club - not that I personally hate you, but never mind the facts, just keep making up stuff as you go along. I'm sorry I got involved in your childish nonsense.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 14, 2008, 11:08:47 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 14, 2008, 09:53:57 AM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 14, 2008, 09:46:29 AM
The mods deleted a comment of mine yesterday where literally all i said was "...did you hear something?"

Thats ridiculous, I'm sure this comment will probably be deleted as well.

In fairness Doire I dont think it was the content of your post but more the quote that came along with it from GOH.  It must have just been deleted in this last half an hour because i read through them this morning.  I think it was in reference to a derogatory remark regarding you and Corn

ahhh right, well that would make more sense then, thanks for pointing it out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 14, 2008, 12:35:26 PM
benny i think you will find you were the childish one claiming people where hated and throwing the toys out of the pram when a decision went against you. Not to mention the name calling and claiming that you never said things but you were really just stating what everyone else was thinking.

I don't think any of the lads need you to speak for them, so in future let them say what they want and you could perhaps state your opinions, instead of qouting others. You are quoting others to insinuate what you are saying. Then when someone comes back at you, the only explanation you have is that it wasn't you that said it. How grown up and anti childish.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 14, 2008, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 14, 2008, 12:35:26 PM
benny i think you will find you were the childish one claiming people where hated and throwing the toys out of the pram when a decision went against you. Not to mention the name calling and claiming that you never said things but you were really just stating what everyone else was thinking.

I don't think any of the lads need you to speak for them, so in future let them say what they want and you could perhaps state your opinions, instead of qouting others. You are quoting others to insinuate what you are saying. Then when someone comes back at you, the only explanation you have is that it wasn't you that said it. How grown up and anti childish.

much of the same thing I would have thought?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 14, 2008, 02:31:57 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 14, 2008, 12:35:26 PM
benny i think you will find you were the childish one claiming people where hated and throwing the toys out of the pram when a decision went against you. Not to mention the name calling and claiming that you never said things but you were really just stating what everyone else was thinking.

I don't think any of the lads need you to speak for them, so in future let them say what they want and you could perhaps state your opinions, instead of qouting others. You are quoting others to insinuate what you are saying. Then when someone comes back at you, the only explanation you have is that it wasn't you that said it. How grown up and anti childish.
•I don't think I'm stating anything surprising to anyone (outside of Lurgan maybe) when I say Clans are the most hated club in Armagh, granted it may be a generalisation, but still an accurate one I reckon. 
•I haven't quoted anybody, if I did, I would use the quote button. 
•It's amusing that you think a ref being unable to count correctly and whinging over 'alleged' soft frees are comparable.
•It has all turned very childish – the saying is true, "Never argue with a fool, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you on experience."
;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on May 14, 2008, 02:48:19 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 14, 2008, 02:31:57 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 14, 2008, 12:35:26 PM
benny i think you will find you were the childish one claiming people where hated and throwing the toys out of the pram when a decision went against you. Not to mention the name calling and claiming that you never said things but you were really just stating what everyone else was thinking.

I don't think any of the lads need you to speak for them, so in future let them say what they want and you could perhaps state your opinions, instead of qouting others. You are quoting others to insinuate what you are saying. Then when someone comes back at you, the only explanation you have is that it wasn't you that said it. How grown up and anti childish.
•I don't think I'm stating anything surprising to anyone (outside of Lurgan maybe) when I say Clans are the most hated club in Armagh, granted it may be a generalisation, but still an accurate one I reckon. 
•I haven't quoted anybody, if I did, I would use the quote button. 
•It's amusing that you think a ref being unable to count correctly and whinging over 'alleged' soft frees are comparable.
•It has all turned very childish – the saying is true, "Never argue with a fool, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you on experience."
;)


Your are some boy- hatred is a strong word- but i suppose people hate the best and for many a years we were the best- wat about you scumbags - a shower of mouths that morrison p***k is a prime example - a rubbish footballer - just good for mouthing- jesus you armagh city tramps are some pups- we just hope we put you down were belong divison 2- muppet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on May 14, 2008, 03:07:56 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on May 14, 2008, 02:48:19 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 14, 2008, 02:31:57 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 14, 2008, 12:35:26 PM
benny i think you will find you were the childish one claiming people where hated and throwing the toys out of the pram when a decision went against you. Not to mention the name calling and claiming that you never said things but you were really just stating what everyone else was thinking.

I don't think any of the lads need you to speak for them, so in future let them say what they want and you could perhaps state your opinions, instead of qouting others. You are quoting others to insinuate what you are saying. Then when someone comes back at you, the only explanation you have is that it wasn't you that said it. How grown up and anti childish.
•I don't think I'm stating anything surprising to anyone (outside of Lurgan maybe) when I say Clans are the most hated club in Armagh, granted it may be a generalisation, but still an accurate one I reckon. 
•I haven't quoted anybody, if I did, I would use the quote button. 
•It's amusing that you think a ref being unable to count correctly and whinging over 'alleged' soft frees are comparable.
•It has all turned very childish – the saying is true, "Never argue with a fool, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you on experience."
;)


Your are some boy- hatred is a strong word- but i suppose people hate the best and for many a years we were the best- wat about you scumbags - a shower of mouths that morrison p***k is a prime example - a rubbish footballer - just good for mouthing- jesus you armagh city tramps are some pups- we just hope we put you down were belong divison 2- muppet

Reading through the last 2 pages there are some absolutely childish and very bitter posts and i was just gonna go and come back another day when the craic was back on. :( :( :(

Then GAAPUNTER posts the most childish and bitter rant of the lot and showed us all that he is the biggest slabber of the lot. :o :o :o

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 14, 2008, 03:16:00 PM
I think benny is being a bit harsh in describing them as the most hated team, but the Clans certainly would not be liked by many.  Like every club they have their fair share of mouth pieces, but their arrogance is what gets most peoples' backs up, and it is an arrogance based on past glories. A similar arrogance eminates from Dromintee at times, with very little to base it on.  There isn't the same level of arrogance in the city teams.  We have that arrogance and justifiably so.

I personally never minded playing Clans as it was always competetive and hard fought.  They are hard to listen to but when you close your ears and stick the ball over the bar it shuts them up fairly quickly!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on May 14, 2008, 03:20:31 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 14, 2008, 03:16:00 PM

I personally never minded playing Clans as it was always competetive and hard fought.  They are hard to listen to but when you close your ears and stick the ball over the bar it shuts them up fairly quickly!

I like that one  :) :D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 14, 2008, 03:26:30 PM
And there is certainly a strong ignorance that comes from many Cross supporters which is a tad different from justified arrogance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on May 14, 2008, 03:43:27 PM
     
Right lads heres your chance to decide it once and for all.

Go to the ARMAGH FOOTBALL CLUBS poll and get voting

I have included the clubs that usually get slagged for being the most hateful, big headed, slabbers, arrogant etc

Some clubs will have been left out that deserve to be on here but its probably to big already so tough.

Each person gets 2 votes and the poll will run for 7 days with a press conference called in the city west to release the results.

The club with the highest number of votes will be crowned "The Most Hateful Crowd of Feckers 2008"  and all men from that area will be neutered for the good of humanity.

In the event of a tie there will be a vote of between the leading clubs for 1 additional day.


Get voting
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 14, 2008, 03:58:23 PM
lads this vote is a bit embarrassin, we will be the talk of all the other counties in bloody Ireland on this GAA board ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 14, 2008, 04:00:34 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 14, 2008, 10:35:52 AM
Goh i know why they are all slatting you now lad because you mentioned you were from the clans, albeit in dundalk. ;) You better watch yourself or benny and candyman will be telling you how much they hate you because you are associated with a team that belongs to the same organisation that they claim to be part of.
I think in the spirit of the GAA it is wrong to hate any club. Certainly it is possible to have bitter rivalries with clubs and even certain individuals at club. I don't think i would ever say i hated any club in Armagh or any other county for that. But i guess that is the difference between gaels and so called gaels.

I can take on the chin things that happen and move on without hating teams. It seems some board members store everything that has ever happened in their heads and cast it up at every opportunity. In other words they can't move on. Benny i would be very interested to know the reason behind your hatred of the Clan na Gael ??? I don't think slabbering will answer the question as all teams have slabbers, which would make you then hate all teams, including your own.

Been away from the board all day but when did i suddenly get dragged into this???
Winsamsoon show me where i even ONCE said i hate any club..... keep ur petty arguements for someone else!!! END OF...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 14, 2008, 04:04:42 PM
Ach the vote is a good chance to get stuck into the Mullaghbawn wans.  :-X
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 14, 2008, 04:27:47 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 14, 2008, 04:04:42 PM
Ach the vote is a good chance to get stuck into the Mullaghbawn wans.  :-X

Now corn, some of us are glad of the mullaghbawn wans  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 14, 2008, 05:04:00 PM
Lads i think I'll stay away from this thread for a while till there's a bit of sense talked again, that Shiite over the last 2 pages is embarrassing and if thats what you all want to talk about then good luck to ya. Setting up a vote on who is the most hated club in Armagh is unbelievable ::) ::)What age are you guys?

To BC1: the only arrogance in our club is from older guys who have long retired and who actually bust our own balls from the banks as supporters, we have enough to listen from our "so called own supporters" than you guys. Why would we (current senior team) be arrogant as we have nothing to be arrogant about and if you're listening to a bunch of middle aged men on the bank then good luck to you. Again because someone on a terrace or grass bank shouts something it doesn't have to be linked to the players.

And yes before you all jump on to slate me there are a few slabbers on our team but every team has them not just the Clans
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 14, 2008, 05:44:40 PM

What is being inferred as club arrogance is usually confined to supporters. most lads who play the game are civil enough, play hard and leave it on the field when the whistle goes. Cross's perception of arrogance from dromintee is more of a "how can they be so arrogant as to challenge us" attitude. It's an expected reaction in the world of competitive sport to show the fangs and react competitively when faced with a challenge. the cross players are as civil as the rest as far as i can see. the extra bit that corn refers to is again down to supporters.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 14, 2008, 05:48:59 PM
Things are going beyond a wind up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What gets to me is the folk that start to panic when the debate doesn't evolve around a 100% intellectual issue. Ffs lads wind the necks in and have a bit of craic on the board aswell it can't all be serious and  sometimes boring.

The poll is a step to far though. (probably because the result will show that we are top  :D :D ) so don't do it. Even though i say that i would like to see a result  :D :D Benny you're a marked man anyway i won't forget your comments. candyman is feeling slightly hard done bye but i relly don't care because it was he who gave me the eyes after i made a comment.  ;) So if we are all in agreement we will move on to this weeks games.

We are away to Killeavy and it's a must win

Anyone else ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 14, 2008, 09:42:39 PM
Under 21 Championship

Cross 1-10  Pearse ogs 1-05

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 14, 2008, 10:09:47 PM
cruppen beat tir na nog by a couple of points!  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 14, 2008, 10:46:12 PM
cruppen play crossmaglen in the semi-final of the u21 championship next THURSDAY night in silverbridge!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 14, 2008, 10:49:39 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on May 14, 2008, 10:46:12 PM
cruppen play crossmaglen in the semi-final of the u21 championship next THURSDAY night in silverbridge!


i would be very disappointed if this is due to the soccer on wednesday night. would like to know from the county board why the u21 championship games are moved from wednesday to thursday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 14, 2008, 11:03:00 PM
madden beat middletown tonight by 6pts.

what is the full draw?

when do granemore play their quarter final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 14, 2008, 11:07:40 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 14, 2008, 05:04:00 PM

To BC1: the only arrogance in our club is from older guys who have long retired and who actually bust our own balls from the banks as supporters, we have enough to listen from our "so called own supporters" than you guys. Why would we (current senior team) be arrogant as we have nothing to be arrogant about and if you're listening to a bunch of middle aged men on the bank then good luck to you. Again because someone on a terrace or grass bank shouts something it doesn't have to be linked to the players.


That is accepted Illdecide, and we had the same gobshites in Cross who even when we had won the AI we were not as good as the great team of the 60's ::)   Also it is a few years since I played, but their was a level of what could probably be described as Townie cockiness maybe moreso than arrogance.  

Quote from: Uladh on May 14, 2008, 05:44:40 PM

What is being inferred as club arrogance is usually confined to supporters. most lads who play the game are civil enough, play hard and leave it on the field when the whistle goes. Cross's perception of arrogance from dromintee is more of a "how can they be so arrogant as to challenge us" attitude. It's an expected reaction in the world of competitive sport to show the fangs and react competitively when faced with a challenge. the cross players are as civil as the rest as far as i can see. the extra bit that corn refers to is again down to supporters.



Uladh, I would disagree with you a bit there.  The arrogance that I speak of is from a number of players who sneered down their noses at the likes of me,  "how could someone like you win an AI?"  attitude.  The majority of players were fine but one or two were hard work.  As you say though off the field I would have been fairly friendly with most of them and thought they were decent lads.

Good win for the u21's Crossfire, who played well? Any report for the scattered folk?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 15, 2008, 08:42:39 AM
This is taken from the Orchard County website

FROM todays Irish News

THE Armagh senior football squad for the 2008 Championship has been announced. There are no surprise omissions in the 35-man panel and, unsurprisingly, Crossmaglen are best represented. The south Armagh side have eight players in the squad. There is a place for Conor Clarke, brother of Ronan, and for Ronan Austin, who has recovered from a broken ankle picked up in the McKenna Cup clash with Fermanagh. There is no place on the list for Cladys Phillip Loughran and Paul Duffy of Pearse Ogs despite both featuring for Peter McDonnell this year. The panel differentiates slightly from the one that will feature in tomorrow's Irish News Championship supplement which had already gone to print by the time the updated panel was announced.

Armagh SFC panel:

R Austin, F Bellew, C Clarke, R Clarke, P Courtney, B Donaghy, M. Ferris, S Forker, P Hearty, A Kernan, P Kernan, S Kernan, T Kernan, J Lavery, G Loughran, 0 McConville, B McDonald, S McDonnell, P McGrane, C McKeever, P McKeever, D McKenna, C McKinney, E McNulty, A Mallon, B Mallon, F Moriarty, G O'Neill, A O'Rourke, Martin O'Rourke, Micheal O'Rourke, B Shannon, G Swift, K Toner, C Vernon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 15, 2008, 08:47:09 AM
Not sure why Duffy is dropped. Never seen him play badly for Armagh!

Surely more deserved than a few of the newer half backs that are named?

Also dissapointed that big Loughran never lived up to all his promise! - He should be in his prime now!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 15, 2008, 08:49:38 AM
Quote from: crossfire on May 14, 2008, 09:42:39 PM
Under 21 Championship

Cross 1-10  Pearse ogs 1-05



a poor game last night.  it only showed a bit of life for 5 minutes in the second half. 

Where u at the game crossfire?  I missed the Kyle carragher incident.  why was he sent off?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 15, 2008, 09:11:51 AM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 14, 2008, 10:49:39 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on May 14, 2008, 10:46:12 PM
cruppen play crossmaglen in the semi-final of the u21 championship next THURSDAY night in silverbridge!


i would be very disappointed if this is due to the soccer on wednesday night. would like to know from the county board why the u21 championship games are moved from wednesday to thursday?
why would you be so annoyed about this? If the county board have taken this move due to the champions league final i would be very impressed. It would be foolish not to recognise the fact that most players and supporters are not just GAA people but sports people also, not to mention the huge Man Utd following there is in this country. I have no problem accommodating such a huge sporting occasion as the CL final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 15, 2008, 09:18:30 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on May 14, 2008, 10:09:47 PM
cruppen beat tir na nog by a couple of points!  ::)
could someone please post the correct score?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 15, 2008, 10:31:59 AM
Quote
BC:

Uladh, I would disagree with you a bit there.  The arrogance that I speak of is from a number of players who sneered down their noses at the likes of me,  "how could someone like you win an AI?"  attitude.  The majority of players were fine but one or two were hard work.  As you say though off the field I would have been fairly friendly with most of them and thought they were decent lads.


Now that is pure snobbery from Dromintee folk, a bit rich too. It appears we are judged as quite a cocky club and it would have been something I was unaware of. I know the supporters who go to the away matches (the hardcore!) is made up of the over 40 bracket mainly and is full of people who were around when we were slogging it out in the lower divisions. In all my time following the team there has never been any arrogance from these fans. There is probably a few who run their mouth at times but I think people are realistic that we are a small club with limited success.

Regarding the players, we are a very young team and I don't think they are a cocky bunch. As I say every club has a few slabbers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 15, 2008, 11:13:34 AM
Dromintee v Harps meant for Friday night is off, possibly could be on on Sunday or even Monday night!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 15, 2008, 11:21:34 AM
Why is it off, Friday night matches are always gret and gives the players the weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 15, 2008, 11:26:22 AM

Every club has a couple of headers who get carried away on the pitch, none more so than yourselves, but its generally it'd be confined to the heat of games. Players who question other clubs' players' very presence on the same pitch as them are not in short supply round your club either.

i suppose discussion boards are supporters' version of matches!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 15, 2008, 11:28:08 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 15, 2008, 10:31:59 AM
Quote
BC:

Uladh, I would disagree with you a bit there.  The arrogance that I speak of is from a number of players who sneered down their noses at the likes of me,  "how could someone like you win an AI?"  attitude.  The majority of players were fine but one or two were hard work.  As you say though off the field I would have been fairly friendly with most of them and thought they were decent lads.


Now that is pure snobbery from Dromintee folk, a bit rich too. It appears we are judged as quite a cocky club and it would have been something I was unaware of. I know the supporters who go to the away matches (the hardcore!) is made up of the over 40 bracket mainly and is full of people who were around when we were slogging it out in the lower divisions. In all my time following the team there has never been any arrogance from these fans. There is probably a few who run their mouth at times but I think people are realistic that we are a small club with limited success.

Regarding the players, we are a very young team and I don't think they are a cocky bunch. As I say every club has a few slabbers.

Corn, was BC not talking about some of the cross players being arrogant as opposed to their fans like uladh mentioned? I gathered from what he said that it was some of his own players who were lookin down their nose at him. maybe im completely wrong here.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 15, 2008, 11:32:56 AM
It's probably off, due to the fact that galway utd  are playing waterford in the quarter final of the eircom shield ffs  >:(.  If the county board has changed the night of the U-21's to a thurs night because of the champions league game then this is a disgrace. It is nothing to do with other sports doire it is the fact that we have gone out of our way to postpone our sports to watch and in a way promote another.

I have said it before football has now become a business, each sport is competing against each other for viewers and crowds etc. It seems like every chance the GAA get to bend over backwards for soccer and rugby now they will do it. I don't see this being recipricated the other way.

What about the people who follow gaelic that are perhaps working on a thurs night and won't be able to get to that game now?? The matches were set for a wed and should be played on a wed never mind what other sports are doing. I know in our club if we were training on wed night we would be training and it wouldn't be changed so as a certain section could go and watch utd play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 15, 2008, 11:40:18 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 15, 2008, 11:21:34 AM
Why is it off, Friday night matches are always gret and gives the players the weekend.
County players who were in portugal last week were strongly advised to recouperate for one full week because of the intensity of the training, therefore the game would have been played on Friday night without county men and Dromintee didn't want that.  99% certain the game is on Monday night btw.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 15, 2008, 11:41:18 AM
It's not a disgrace , it's commoin sense.Poeple support Man United and wil lwant to watch it. By forcing them to play a match when it can be changed to the next night will sour their opinion of the association.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 15, 2008, 11:45:33 AM
Winsam, when was the game fixed for Wednesday night? this is not a re-fixture for a start. If we try and make a comparison - Do you think if Dublin were playing Derry in the all-ireland final there would be any small soccer club fixtures in those counties on that day? lets says its even a replay and the game is on a saturday.

Edit: I picked those counties because of their cities being obvious soccer strongholds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 15, 2008, 12:04:47 PM
Doire it was well known that the county u-21 championship would be played on consecutive wednesday nights. This week should have been no exception.

Regarding the question about the All Ireland. I can tell you for a fact that if the scenario did arise the soccer games would be played. Soccer fixtures are made by the IFA and they certainly wouldn't have cattered for no All Ireland final considering they are part of an organisation that refuses to recognise a 32 county Ireland, it would be very hypocritcal to change their fixtures for such an event.

I live in Lurgan Doire and i have watched soccer football erode the gaelic code over the years. My own club Clan Na Gael have put a lot of effort into trying to get more youth into our club, through summer and easter camps. But i have watched soccer managers giving ultimatums to kids as young as 9 and 10 years of age. Telling them that if they don't play for sunnyside instead of the clans or other clubs then they will be pulling teams out of the league. I even witnessed them trying to tell our u-16 lads not to go to county development squads. If soccer had it's way then gaelic would be no more. For this reason i would be strongly against putting off any gaelic event for a soccer game that really no one from here should have any affiliation to. After all i ain't from chelsea or manchester, neither are the folks from Cross or cruppen . The game should be fixed for the wed and the true gaels would always be there. If it weren't for the true gaels at our club and even in our town Gaelic football would has folded.

I would watch soccer myself and even have the odd punt on the games  ;) but Soccer football has added to the demise of gaelic games in North Armagh. You have only to look at the league tables from division 1-4 and you will understand. For this reason i wouldn't give them an inch.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 15, 2008, 12:06:39 PM
You're turning into a right whinger Win!  :-\

EDIT: Cheers for that BC  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 15, 2008, 12:14:57 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 15, 2008, 12:06:39 PM
You're turning into a right winger Win!  :-\

A la Ronaldo or whinger a la Johnny Giles? ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 15, 2008, 12:17:53 PM
Goats when you watch it eroding away at a game you love then you would be a winger yourself   ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 15, 2008, 12:36:15 PM
I think you have a very fair point winsam but just like its wrong for your local soccer clubs to try and take players away from Gaelic, I don't believe a sports person has to be exclusively committed to any one sport. I don't think making a very small accommodation which will enable everyone involved, if they're interested, to view one of a the biggest sporting events of the year which gathers huge interest from all over the globe, will lead to soccer taking over the lives of these players.

You may say that it sends out a bad message that we are willing to move over for soccer, but it also sends out a mesage that soccer doesn't threaten us and that we can maturely make decisions like this which allow people not to miss one of the biggest events of the year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 15, 2008, 12:46:57 PM

The problem with your approach win is that you are also delivering an ultimatum to people in which sport they should put number one. we should be mature enough to sensibly schedule so that people who want to see both can and then be confident in our games that the average punter will develop their love of gaelic football in the long term.

if you want to have a head to head to force a decision in peoples' minds then you are choosing the wrong battle ground. armagh u21 club championship versus the CL final is harly a fair test. If you feel we have to go head to head then by all means use an ulster champinship match or similar to give the GAA  fighting chance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bud on May 15, 2008, 01:09:58 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 15, 2008, 12:46:57 PM
if you want to have a head to head to force a decision in peoples' minds then you are choosing the wrong battle ground. armagh u21 club championship versus the CL final is harly a fair test. If you feel we have to go head to head then by all means use an ulster champinship match or similar to give the GAA  fighting chance.

To me if you are a good clubman/women it is a fair test.
I have played and watched soccer for most of my time.  Still to me, if my club was playing in the semi final of the under 21 club championship and the soccer team i supported was in the champions league final i know where i'd be at and i'm sure those true Cross or Cruppen fans would agree with me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 15, 2008, 01:19:44 PM
Plenty of supporters wouldn't Bud.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 15, 2008, 01:24:10 PM
Quote from: bud on May 15, 2008, 01:09:58 PM
To me if you are a good clubman/women it is a fair test.
I have played and watched soccer for most of my time.  Still to me, if my club was playing in the semi final of the under 21 club championship and the soccer team i supported was in the champions league final i know where i'd be at and i'm sure those true Cross or Cruppen fans would agree with me.

It'd be great if everyone was like you bud. the gaa are competing for the floating voters on this one, not the traditional voters
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 15, 2008, 01:26:24 PM
Bingo.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 15, 2008, 02:40:45 PM
The fact of the matter is, its not a zero-sum game here and the U21 championship semi-final doesn't have to compete with the CL final in a winner takes all battle. All sports fans or players involved will be able to view both games with noone being put out over it. I don't see what is wrong with this. and why we should be made choose between the two.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 15, 2008, 02:56:32 PM
doire your points are equally as valid and you are well entitled to take that stance on the issue.

Aghda, I don't think i have offered an ultimatum. Every person in the GAA is voluntarily there and it is up to you as an individual to make the choices you like. I would have been offering ultimatums if i had deliberatley fixed a game to clash with the cl final. However i didn't.  The cl final clashed with the u-21 championship as this is our first choice sport Except it wasn't me that did it. The games were supposed to be played on the wed nights. I wouldn't deliberately go out of my way to arrange gaelic games that would clash with other sporting events. In return i don't expect the GAA to cancel their sporting events which are already put in place. If i had twenty lads available i would never say to them to choose between the cl final and their u-21 game. That decision would be up to them and i would be fairly confident they would all report for the u-21 game. In my opinion anyone that didn't would be of no great loss to the team or the club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 15, 2008, 06:00:48 PM
jaysus lads will you all relax your wee selves and not be getting into a tizzy!

im led to believe that the championship has been changed til thursday night to accommodate a request for change from the county manager peter mcdonnell. maybe its just me but in recent times i had been under the impression that you could not change championship fixtures! again it just goes to show you that the tail wags the dog whenever the county board are concerned!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 15, 2008, 06:13:34 PM
when i was under 16 the championship final was played at the same time as the utd bayern munich game and there was no change for it. 

we still got a big turnout of supporters for the game.  Dont know the ins and outs of it though if the original arrangement was to be wednesday night games which i am led to believe this should not have been changed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 15, 2008, 06:49:39 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 15, 2008, 11:40:18 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 15, 2008, 11:21:34 AM
Why is it off, Friday night matches are always gret and gives the players the weekend.
County players who were in portugal last week were strongly advised to recouperate for one full week because of the intensity of the training, therefore the game would have been played on Friday night without county men and Dromintee didn't want that.  99% certain the game is on Monday night btw.

well there would have been a few players who were in portugal who would have played a full championship game on wednesday night.

Quote from: corn02 on May 15, 2008, 11:41:18 AM
It's not a disgrace , it's commoin sense.Poeple support Man United and wil lwant to watch it. By forcing them to play a match when it can be changed to the next night will sour their opinion of the association.

thats balls! how would going to represent or support your own club sour your opinion of the association. if you want to sit in the house watching soccer instead of the hussle and bussle of a championship semi final then thats fair enough. these people are probably first in the queue for tickets come all ireland time all the same.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 15, 2008, 06:56:05 PM
Howd you do in that match charles??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 15, 2008, 07:48:40 PM
Quoteim led to believe that the championship has been changed til thursday night to accommodate a request for change from the county manager peter mcdonnell. maybe its just me but in recent times i had been under the impression that you could not change championship fixtures! again it just goes to show you that the tail wags the dog whenever the county board are concerned!

If the above is true then it is a sad state of affairs in Armagh that a manager appointed by the County Board can overule a sub-committee of the same Board.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 15, 2008, 07:54:18 PM
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If the above is true then it is a sad state of affairs in Armagh that a manager appointed by the County Board can overule a sub-committee of the same Board.
Sure what's new!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 15, 2008, 08:12:06 PM
unfortunately we where beaten by a bigger and stronger clann eireann side nail
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 15, 2008, 09:07:15 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 15, 2008, 06:49:39 PM
thats balls! how would going to represent or support your own club sour your opinion of the association. if you want to sit in the house watching soccer instead of the hussle and bussle of a championship semi final then thats fair enough. these people are probably first in the queue for tickets come all ireland time all the same.

Bullshit QUB. That is the facts. If it was an U-10 championship semi-final would you put it ahead of the soccer? People watch other sports sometimes if it's more attractive which was evident during the 02 World Cup/ Derry v Donegal plus thge Heniken Cup/League finals.

I can guarantee you there will be players on both teams who would have been annoyed if they had to play on the Wednesday. Not annoyed to the point of not showing up, but annoyed to the point of being pissed off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 15, 2008, 09:10:30 PM
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Bullshit QUB. That is the facts. If it was an U-10 championship semi-final would you put it ahead of the soccer? People watch other sports sometimes if it's more attractive which was evident during the 02 World Cup/ Derry v Donegal plus thge Heniken Cup/League finals.

I can guarantee you there will be players on both teams who would have been annoyed if they had to play on the Wednesday. Not annoyed to the point of not showing up, but annoyed to the point of being pissed off.

Spot on Corn. Fella's are entitled to other interests outside the GAA and I don't see the harm in an occasional bit of flexibility to accomodate this. Nobody's saying they wouldn't have played this Wednesday but its simply more attractive for everybody to delay for a week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 15, 2008, 10:04:17 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 15, 2008, 09:10:30 PM
Quote
Bullshit QUB. That is the facts. If it was an U-10 championship semi-final would you put it ahead of the soccer? People watch other sports sometimes if it's more attractive which was evident during the 02 World Cup/ Derry v Donegal plus thge Heniken Cup/League finals.

I can guarantee you there will be players on both teams who would have been annoyed if they had to play on the Wednesday. Not annoyed to the point of not showing up, but annoyed to the point of being pissed off.

Spot on Corn. Fella's are entitled to other interests outside the GAA and I don't see the harm in an occasional bit of flexibility to accomodate this. Nobody's saying they wouldn't have played this Wednesday but its simply more attractive for everybody to delay for a week.

i would put any game involving my club before a soccer match corn. in fact if there was the prospect of a good game incolving your good selves up in dromintee i would likely travel up.

and tacadoir it is only more attractive to those not directly involved with either club.

anyway the game is on thursday night and thats that. what is the reason for the hold up of the granemore cavanakill game?

i see cullyhanna are advertising a great family day out on 24th may, you'd hardly be flying in fot the weekend would you pints??  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 16, 2008, 10:30:05 AM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 15, 2008, 10:04:17 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 15, 2008, 09:10:30 PM
Quote
Bullshit QUB. That is the facts. If it was an U-10 championship semi-final would you put it ahead of the soccer? People watch other sports sometimes if it's more attractive which was evident during the 02 World Cup/ Derry v Donegal plus thge Heniken Cup/League finals.

I can guarantee you there will be players on both teams who would have been annoyed if they had to play on the Wednesday. Not annoyed to the point of not showing up, but annoyed to the point of being pissed off.

Spot on Corn. Fella's are entitled to other interests outside the GAA and I don't see the harm in an occasional bit of flexibility to accomodate this. Nobody's saying they wouldn't have played this Wednesday but its simply more attractive for everybody to delay for a week.

i would put any game involving my club before a soccer match corn. in fact if there was the prospect of a good game incolving your good selves up in dromintee i would likely travel up.

and tacadoir it is only more attractive to those not directly involved with either club.

anyway the game is on thursday night and thats that. what is the reason for the hold up of the granemore cavanakill game?

i see cullyhanna are advertising a great family day out on 24th may, you'd hardly be flying in fot the weekend would you pints??  :D :D

I don't think it is a question of loyalty Qub, I'm pretty sure most people would make that decision otherwise there wouldn't be much point in being involved in a team if you had so little committment but as Tacadoir said theres no harm in allowing a little flexibility here which will benefit everyone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 16, 2008, 12:14:00 PM
to be fair i don't think  anyone on here is saying not to follow other sports, that's personal choice. My main point is that we shouldn't follow them if it is at the expense of our own game/sport. Postponing our games to accomodate others sends out a  message, we are competing with these sports year in years out. Some may say it shows the GAA are flexible, I would say it is the GAA bending over backwards to suit other sports that would never in a month of sundays return the favour.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cityslicker on May 16, 2008, 12:23:24 PM
rite who cares when the match is played who will prevail from the cruppen cross game.. the word is both team r missing vital players is there any truth in this?? would it b a worth while game 2 go 2 r will it just b a landslide victory 4the mighty cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 16, 2008, 12:46:31 PM
Quote from: cityslicker on May 16, 2008, 12:23:24 PM
rite who cares when the match is played who will prevail from the cruppen cross game.. the word is both team r missing vital players is there any truth in this?? would it b a worth while game 2 go 2 r will it just b a landslide victory 4the mighty cross

The performance of Cross on wednesday night against the Ogs wouldn't really put the fear of God into you.  They are a decent enough side but I wouldn't be just so confident in them getting past Cruppen in the next round. 

I know Kyle Carragher should be missing anyway next week, he got a straight red on wednesday for an off the ball incident.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on May 16, 2008, 12:52:15 PM
Wasn't able to get down for the Ogs game.  Did David McKenna line out for Cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 16, 2008, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: Imposerous on May 16, 2008, 12:52:15 PM
Wasn't able to get down for the Ogs game.  Did David McKenna line out for Cross?

Yes.  He didn't have a bad game either.  Him and Hanratty were in the middle of the park, Rico Kelly in centre half forward, Carragher in full forward and Kernan in full back.  A pretty strong spine, but from what I saw they are definitely beatable. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 16, 2008, 01:20:21 PM
Quote from: cityslicker on May 16, 2008, 12:23:24 PM
rite who cares when the match is played who will prevail from the cruppen cross game.. the word is both team r missing vital players is there any truth in this?? would it b a worth while game 2 go 2 r will it just b a landslide victory 4the mighty cross

...well fingers crossed ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on May 16, 2008, 01:27:53 PM
Cheers El C.  Rico has been playing really well this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 16, 2008, 01:30:36 PM
Rico is a very talented player and physically very strong.  Was Paul Mckeown no6 and how did Franny Hanratty play?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 16, 2008, 01:50:35 PM
Rico and Hanratty have both got a bit bigger since last year.  Hanratty had a good work rate the other night, but he seems to like getting involved in stupid arguments.

I never really noticed Mckeown to be honest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on May 16, 2008, 03:22:36 PM
Lads to be honest I only a play a bit of B Football (when i get the time) and some hurling, and I know where I'll be on wednesday night and it def won't be running round some field.

Some c'mon on Utd!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 16, 2008, 04:53:01 PM
To BC1

The difference between Cross and ogs IMO was David McKenna who controlled midfield, especially in the second half, and Jamie Clarke who won and pointed a lot of frees.

Paul McKeown was CHB and had a steady game
Title: Division 1
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 16, 2008, 09:20:26 PM
The f**kers beat the bigger f**kers tonight in the 'bridge.

4 or 5 points in it. 


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 16, 2008, 09:25:34 PM
Cross beat Cullyhanna 1-11 to 0-08 in league.

Francie, paul H and Stephen K started.

Aaron & Tony K and Oisin came on midway through second half

I will ignore the half-wit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 16, 2008, 09:26:26 PM
Bit difficult to ignore yourself?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 16, 2008, 09:35:51 PM
just back from silverbridge. cross totally outplayed their nieghbours. McEntee out thought out played and out caught that asshole mackin. not one wrong move from cullyhanna. gutless display. afraid for their lives. tough nut mc keever stayed on the sideline.they know not to f**k with the rangers. but will probally take it out on some smaller team. no 11 for cullyhanna put in his place. great to watch. football 1 thugs 0.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 16, 2008, 09:44:17 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on May 16, 2008, 09:35:51 PM
just back from silverbridge. cross totally outplayed their nieghbours. McEntee out thought out played and out caught that asshole mackin. not one wrong move from cullyhanna. gutless display. afraid for their lives. tough nut mc keever stayed on the sideline.they know not to f**k with the rangers. but will probally take it out on some smaller team. no 11 for cullyhanna put in his place. great to watch. football 1 thugs 0.
or a young defenceless lad out for a few quiet pints.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 16, 2008, 09:46:58 PM
Quote from: crossfire on May 16, 2008, 09:25:34 PM
Cross beat Cullyhanna 1-11 to 0-08 in league.

Francie, paul H and Stephen K started.

Aaron & Tony K and Oisin came on midway through second half

I will ignore the half-wit.

ach what's wrong with crossfire, sure I'm only keeping things lively. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 16, 2008, 09:48:10 PM
no doubt about that pints. scoreline does not reflect the true nature of game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 16, 2008, 09:52:35 PM

I thought county players were "unavailable"?

some pretty classless posts this evenin lads
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 16, 2008, 09:56:02 PM
Quote from: Uladh on May 16, 2008, 09:52:35 PM

I thought county players were "unavailable"?

some pretty classless posts this evenin lads
Which ones?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 16, 2008, 10:03:03 PM

Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 16, 2008, 09:20:26 PM
The f**kers beat the bigger f**kers tonight in the 'bridge.

4 or 5 points in it. 

Now there's a possibility you were being tongue in cheek but the last one reflects only on the poster:

Quote from: twotwocharlie on May 16, 2008, 09:35:51 PM
just back from silverbridge. cross totally outplayed their nieghbours. McEntee out thought out played and out caught that asshole mackin. not one wrong move from cullyhanna. gutless display. afraid for their lives. tough nut mc keever stayed on the sideline.they know not to f**k with the rangers. but will probally take it out on some smaller team. no 11 for cullyhanna put in his place. great to watch. football 1 thugs 0.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 16, 2008, 10:06:36 PM
QuoteNow there's a possibility you were being tongue in cheek but the last one reflects only on the poster:
Oh, you think?  :-\

charlie's post may have been harsh, but what's in it that's not true?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 16, 2008, 10:13:20 PM

Apart from sounding like it was crayoned by a 10 year old?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 16, 2008, 10:14:52 PM
What has he said that's not true?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 16, 2008, 10:16:53 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 16, 2008, 01:20:21 PM
Quote from: cityslicker on May 16, 2008, 12:23:24 PM
rite who cares when the match is played who will prevail from the cruppen cross game.. the word is both team r missing vital players is there any truth in this?? would it b a worth while game 2 go 2 r will it just b a landslide victory 4the mighty cross

...well fingers crossed ;)

never thought i'd see the day.. its a pity the final will actually be the semi final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 16, 2008, 10:21:19 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on May 16, 2008, 09:35:51 PM
just back from silverbridge. cross totally outplayed their nieghbours. McEntee out thought out played and out caught that asshole mackin. not one wrong move from cullyhanna. gutless display. afraid for their lives. tough nut mc keever stayed on the sideline.they know not to f**k with the rangers. but will probally take it out on some smaller team. no 11 for cullyhanna put in his place. great to watch. football 1 thugs 0.

You think its acceptable to blindly label a player an asshole?

implying cullyhanna are somehow afraid of big bad cross to score an obviously inaccurate and kidergarden cred point?

implying McKeever wasn't playing because he was somehow afraid of crossmaglen?

gloating in a player being injured?

Labelling an entire club club with a membership of maybe 500 as thugs?


which of it is true? grow up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 16, 2008, 10:27:06 PM
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You think its acceptable to blindly label a player an asshole?
Well if he is  one.

Quote
implying cullyhanna are somehow afraid of big bad cross to score an obviously inaccurate and kidergarden cred point?
Not how I read it, he said there wasn't a wrong move out of cullyhanna because they were afraid.

Quoteimplying McKeever wasn't playing because he was somehow afraid of crossmaglen?
I didn't pick that up from the comment, "tough nut mckeever stayed on the sideline". 

Quotegloating in a player being injured?
Who's injured? Who's gloating? 

Quote
Labelling an entire club club with a membership of maybe 500 as thugs?
I don't think the 500 of them would have been playing tonight.

I think you've been reading sammyg's posts too long!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 16, 2008, 11:57:32 PM
tell me uladh how many of the magnificent 500 are not thugs. And by the way i'am almost twelve.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 17, 2008, 12:03:20 AM
Quotejust back from silverbridge. cross totally outplayed their nieghbours. McEntee out thought out played and out caught that asshole mackin. not one wrong move from cullyhanna. gutless display. afraid for their lives. tough nut mc keever stayed on the sideline.they know not to f**k with the rangers. but will probally take it out on some smaller team. no 11 for cullyhanna put in his place. great to watch. football 1 thugs 0.

I should probably adhere to the old saying about not entering a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent, but just for the record, yes Cross did outplay us in the second half. Mal Makin did ok but McEntee probably got the best of him. Your description of Mal says a lot more about you than it does about him. There were plenty of wrong moves from Cullyhanna but if its tackles you're referring to, I agree there were no yellow or red cards, which made the game pretty similar to every other match this year but sure don't let the facts get in the way of a good rant.

Yes Ciaran satyed on the line, but it was hardly of his own choice. To imply he is somehow afraid of makring any of a Cross forward line is laughable. If he was a Rangers man he'd be their best player.

Quotethey know not to f**k with the rangers.

I'm not sure if this is some sort of strange fantasy of your but as for the match, St Pat's gave all they had, I wouldn't fault their effort at all. Played hard and fair as usual and were beaten by a better team. We badly missed our two best players but we have to get used to dealing with the hand we're drawn.

Quotebut will probally take it out on some smaller team.

What is this supposed to mean. We've had one red card since 2006 - its as good a disciplinary record as any team in the county I'd say. Stick to the facts and keep your childish obsession to yourself.

Quoteno 11 for cullyhanna put in his place.

Paul done his best. At least he was out there giving it a go than slabbering nonsense from behind a computer screen like yourself.

Quote
football 1 thugs 0

You been taking the PintsofGuinness course on obsession with Cullyhanna?

Anyway, as stated above, Cross throughly deserved their win tonight. St Pat's stuck to the task gamely and were within 2 points with 15 to go but once the county lads game on, the game swung in Rangers' favour. They just had that bit of class up front which we lacked. We're always likely to struggle without Ciaran and Liam but we've have 1 back for Ogs on Sunday so hopefully we'll keep the good run going then.

Also smart move from Donal Murtagh on the line keeping the county alds on the bench to spring in the second half when the opponents beging to tire. Likely do the same on Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 12:09:06 AM
QuoteWe've had one red card since 2006 - its as good a disciplinary record as any team in the county I'd say.

And how many assaults outside discos?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 17, 2008, 12:17:56 AM
Aye pints right enough I'd forgotten that GAA clubs are responsible for everything anyone from their village (allegedly) does for every waking minute fo their life.

How do you know what happened anyway? You not a bit old for Laceys? Sure maybe Seany'll come back and yis can take turns in blaming the priest for the whole affair.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 12:26:41 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 17, 2008, 12:17:56 AM
Aye pints right enough I'd forgotten that GAA clubs are responsible for everything anyone from their village (allegedly) does for every waking minute fo their life.

How do you know what happened anyway? You not a bit old for Laceys? Sure maybe Seany'll come back and yis can take turns in blaming the priest for the whole affair.

Ah the oul Cullyhanna stance, I suppose it was a "few scuffles"?  I do happen to think a club is responsible if several of their players take an issue they have with another club to a disco and they should step in.  You've some neck on you to come on here and talk about your discipline record, I'll have to give you that one.

Btw, allegedly? Why what happened tacadoir, something different from what the whole of south armagh is talking about? Is Conal Quinn a liar? 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 17, 2008, 12:57:09 AM
QuoteI do happen to think a club is responsible if several of their players take an issue they have with another club to a disco and they should step in.

Can't be done Pints. How the in name of Jaysus is a club supposed to know what all their members are at every night of the week? Should they keep your number on speeddial so they can keep up with the gossip?

QuoteIs Conal Quinn a liar? 

I don't know the fella but i assume not. And I should point out, that I was very relieved to hear he wasn't nearly as badly injured as the rumour mill initially suggested. My point is that, apart from those who were there, anybody preaching about what happened is dealing in second hand accounts at best, and gossip and innuedo at best.

What happened that young fella is a disgrace. Now we all know that there's been fighting at discos for years and years but sadly lately the idea of it being left with a few punches (which isnt to be condoned but is also unlikely to do anyone any serious harm) isnt always the case. There are a small minority of thugs who seem to see it as a badge of manhood to kick fellas on  he gorund or similar cowardly acts. I've been on the receiving end myself and know the dangers. People who behave liike this need to be dealt with by the appropriate authorities but they aren't confined to any one village, area, religion or country and to suggest that it is up to a sports club to deal with this sort of activity is as utterly ridiculous.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 01:07:31 AM
No one expects a club to take responsibility for what their members get up to, I'm saying as it was football related the club needs to have a look at it.  The 'bridge have looked into it.  Have Cullyhanna? I doubt it. 

You keep talking about second hand accounts, there are plenty of people who were there so no one is in any doubt about who was involved and who the ring leaders where, they were probably playing for you tonight. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 17, 2008, 09:41:25 AM
Taca are we talking about the same cullyhanna.
rose coloured glasses and all that.
mc keever is a very good player but should leave out the high elbows and going in with the knee to a man on the ground.
mackin is an average player how he got so long on the county the lord only knows.
your club has never condoned the thugs within and that a sorry fact.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 17, 2008, 09:47:54 AM
Sorry uladh if my scribblings are not up to your standards but you must take into account they are intended for beyond drumill bridge.
Any best of luck in the championship.
p.s i see s.reel has been infected with a violent virus found mostly in roaming packs. safety in numbers and all that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 17, 2008, 09:59:29 AM
dont you mean condemned???

What happened was wrong. Parents are responsible for what their children get up to at discos and bars, not football clubs. If charges are brought and stick, will then justice will be served. It is known that their is a small element of thugs around Cullyhanna who may have footballers within their ranks, and senior players, club members should do their best to discourage them from getting involved in unruly actions. All football clubs are their to try and keep young lads away from this sort of activity, and Cullyhanna, i believe are no different.  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 17, 2008, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on May 17, 2008, 09:41:25 AM
Taca are we talking about the same cullyhanna.
rose coloured glasses and all that.
mc keever is a very good player but should leave out the high elbows and going in with the knee to a man on the ground.
mackin is an average player how he got so long on the county the lord only knows.
your club has never condoned the thugs within and that a sorry fact.

Jesus Christ this guys an idiot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 17, 2008, 11:02:29 AM


it is bloody ridiculous to hold an entire football club accountable for teenagers who row outside a disco.

more than that, it is ridiculous to label the entire membership of a club as thugs because of the actions of a few in the parish who may or not be members of the club.

Aportioning any part of blame to the parish priest beggars belief.

obviously feelings are running high over the issue but a bit of perspective wouldn't go amiss
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 11:20:09 AM
YesI would
QuoteWhat happened was wrong. Parents are responsible for what their children get up to at discos and bars, not football clubs. If charges are brought and stick, will then justice will be served. It is known that their is a small element of thugs around Cullyhanna who may have footballers within their ranks, and senior players, club members should do their best to discourage them from getting involved in unruly actions. All football clubs are their to try and keep young lads away from this sort of activity, and Cullyhanna, i believe are no different.
Ha!  I would agree with you completely if the issue wasn't about football. 

Uladh
Quoteit is bloody ridiculous to hold an entire football club accountable for teenagers who row outside a disco.
Uladh, teenagers weren't rowing outside a disco! Several lads from Cullyhanna, led by two fo their players - targeted a Silverbridge player, firstly inside the place and then outside for no other reason other than he was a Silverbridge player.  CUllyhanna are happy for these to represent them and I assume you're happy for them to represent Armagh.  If Conal Quinn played for Dromintee I guarantee your view would be different - maybe you're theone that needs a bit of prespective.
Personally I wouldn't blame the priest, I know seany said something about him at a time but I don't think he blamed him, just said that he didn't help matters and although he's defended them and their actions always - I don't think he'd make much difference.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 17, 2008, 11:26:26 AM
The Silverbridge faithful will be happy that the "home" team won, for a change, last night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 11:32:04 AM
Quote from: crossfire on May 17, 2008, 11:26:26 AM
The Silverbridge faithful will be happy that the "home" team won, for a change, last night.
Ah come on crossfire did that take you all night?!!



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 11:42:40 AM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 17, 2008, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on May 17, 2008, 09:41:25 AM
Taca are we talking about the same cullyhanna.
rose coloured glasses and all that.
mc keever is a very good player but should leave out the high elbows and going in with the knee to a man on the ground.
mackin is an average player how he got so long on the county the lord only knows.
your club has never condoned the thugs within and that a sorry fact.

Jesus Christ this guys an idiot.

myself and twotwocharlie have clashed several times on this thread but I have to ask, again, what in that statement isn't true? (assuming he means condemned). 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 17, 2008, 01:01:18 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 11:20:09 AM
Uladh, teenagers weren't rowing outside a disco! Several lads from Cullyhanna, led by two fo their players - targeted a Silverbridge player, firstly inside the place and then outside for no other reason other than he was a Silverbridge player.  CUllyhanna are happy for these to represent them and I assume you're happy for them to represent Armagh. 

you do realise that your assertions have no basis in law and therefore what is right and wrong?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 01:04:09 PM
I don't understand what you mean?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 17, 2008, 01:11:40 PM

you're suggesting that cullyhanna should suspend these lads who are alleged to have been fighting in laceys. a couple of questions...

should every club member who is said to have been misbehaving in their own time be suspended?
should this apply to every club?
is it just for fighting or do you get suspended for adultry, being a bad parent, picking your nose?
who pays the money that will be awarded to those suspended when they take the club to court for defamation of charachter?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 01:23:49 PM
Quote from: Uladh on May 17, 2008, 01:11:40 PM

you're suggesting that cullyhanna should suspend these lads who are alleged to have been fighting in laceys. a couple of questions...

should every club member who is said to have been misbehaving in their own time be suspended?
should this apply to every club?
is it just for fighting or do you get suspended for adultry, being a bad parent, picking your nose?
who pays the money that will be awarded to those suspended when they take the club to court for defamation of charachter?

I wouldnt dream of telling Cullyhanna to do anything, I think at the very least they could have a look at what happened and, again, at the very least speak to those involved.  If it had been 'bridge players that had done similar I'd want the club to send a very clear message to them that such behaviour wasn't acceptable. 
Adultly, being a bad parent, picking your nose etc is none of the club's business because it has nothing to do with football. 

It's interesting you describe the incident as misbehaving - the second time you've tried to trivialise it.  Why is that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 17, 2008, 01:32:40 PM

Not trying to trivialise it in the least but don't let that interfere with your paranoia. behaviour outside of football is for a higher authority to deal with.

At least you've now reduced your expectations to "having a word" which is realistically the absolute most a club can do in these circumstances.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 01:39:17 PM
QuoteAt least you've now reduced your expectations to "having a word" which is realistically the absolute most a club can do in these circumstances.
At the very least I've said - which is what I always thought. 

And you did try to trivialise it with your
"teenagers who row outside a disco" and "misbehaving"

Strange thing to say considering the injuries to the lads and we shouldnt forget Conal wasnt the only one.

I love the use of the word allegedly as well - as if there's some doubt  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 17, 2008, 02:46:06 PM
How do you suggest the club condone (condem) it Twotwio, a statement in the Irish News?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 02:55:13 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 17, 2008, 02:46:06 PM
How do you suggest the club condone (condem) it Twotwio, a statement in the Irish News?
I think appointing Casey as manager and again and appealing 10 or 11 bans was a clear indication that they don't condem thugs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 17, 2008, 03:15:50 PM

Am i missing something, was it not teenagers fighting outside a disco?

What motive would i have in trivialising it?

You have to use the word allegedly.  anyone beyond those who were there do not know the circumstances for sure until it is proven in a court of law.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 03:21:38 PM

QuoteAm i missing something, was it not teenagers fighting outside a disco?
No because Quinn and his mates didn't have a chance to do any fighting.  To say it was "teenagers fighting" or "misbehaving" is a bit like calling it handbags and it's not what I'd call it.

Quote
What motive would i have in trivialising it?
I've no idea what your motive is.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 17, 2008, 03:23:44 PM

Ok, so it was teenagers fighting outside a disco then?

There's only one of us with motivation to manipulate the situation
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 17, 2008, 03:25:45 PM
Surely by taking them out of division 2, the man deserved to be reappointed, and i would fancy them strongly to lift the championship this year.
Surely if all what you say is true, then there should be ample motivation for your club and senior team to take these boys of their pedastal by playing ball within the rules of the game!! Rantings on here serve no purpose
If you have hard evidence or know someone who has then it should be forwarded to the relevant authorities. regarding this assault
The lads who assaulted this lad deserve to be punished. The nature of the injuries were beyond what you expect from lads of this age and i hope the young fella invloved makes a speedy recovery, but by inferring that their is some conspiracy theory from everyone in Cullyhanna against your club is a little petty.


Title: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 03:31:30 PM
QuoteOk, so it was teenagers fighting outside a disco then?
Not what I'd call it.

QuoteThere's only one of us with motivation to manipulate the situation
Who me? How so?

QuoteSurely by taking them out of division 2, the man deserved to be reappointed, and i would fancy them strongly to lift the championship this year.
He was re-appointed before he took them out of divison 2. 

Quote
The lads who assaulted this lad deserve to be punished. The nature of the injuries were beyond what you expect from lads of this age and i hope the young fella invloved makes a speedy recovery, but by inferring that their is some conspiracy theory from everyone in Cullyhanna against your club is a little petty.
I didn't infer anything like that and to suggest I did, and try to misrepresent me is petty.

btw Yes I would, what club did you say you were from?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 17, 2008, 03:36:08 PM
Will then it was a good move to reappoint him, considering the end result was promotion!!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 03:41:26 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on May 17, 2008, 03:36:08 PM
Will then it was a good move to reappoint him, considering the end result was promotion!!

Yes it's lucky they can see into the future in Cullyhanna. 
The year they reappointed him they were after disgracing themselves in Cross against us (he was sacked during the melee by the chairman - a decent man) and had struggled in the bottom half of division two, narrowly avoiding the relegation playoffs if memory serves me right.  Yes he's done a good job since so it is a good job they have ability to see into the future.

What club did you say you were from?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 17, 2008, 04:53:22 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 11:42:40 AM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 17, 2008, 10:14:07 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on May 17, 2008, 09:41:25 AM
Taca are we talking about the same cullyhanna.
rose coloured glasses and all that.
mc keever is a very good player but should leave out the high elbows and going in with the knee to a man on the ground.
mackin is an average player how he got so long on the county the lord only knows.
your club has never condoned the thugs within and that a sorry fact.

Jesus Christ this guys an idiot.

myself and twotwocharlie have clashed several times on this thread but I have to ask, again, what in that statement isn't true? (assuming he means condemned). 

I was talking about his grammar and general style of writing, nothing to do with the substance of his or your posts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 04:56:00 PM
Ah ok.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 17, 2008, 05:57:54 PM
No need to be childish pints!!
Think its called making an informed decision rather than an ability to see into the future!! For some clubs it will work, for others it wont!
Originally a Dub, but have been livin up here now over 5 years and watch a fair bit of ball between Armagh and Down, mostly championship. Just say it as i see it! Still playin a little Carnbane football, if you could call it that!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 06:23:14 PM
QuoteNo need to be childish pints!!
Think its called making an informed decision rather than an ability to see into the future!!

They still weren't too concerned about his "style" of management then where they?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 17, 2008, 06:32:54 PM
Know diddly squat bout his management style, only that he has got a fairly young team going well in 1st division!! Interested to see how they cope with favs tag in INT championship this year!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 06:38:19 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on May 17, 2008, 06:32:54 PM
Know diddly squat bout his management style, only that he has got a fairly young team going well in 1st division!! Interested to see how they cope with favs tag in INT championship this year!!
Well there you go.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 17, 2008, 06:42:44 PM
What you mean by that???
Dont tell me you have an insight into the mans mangagement skills and thinking!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 17, 2008, 06:45:20 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on May 17, 2008, 06:42:44 PM
What you mean by that???
Dont tell me you have an insight into the mans mangagement skills and thinking!!

No but I was there the day he sent out his team to get a game abandoned.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 17, 2008, 09:34:06 PM
Corn a simple call from one chairman to another would have been acceptable.
Apologies for my grammer but i didn't make 3rd level. Thought you just had to have an interest in local gaa to post.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 17, 2008, 09:47:13 PM
 "Can youse not use your elbows what else are they for". Useful advice from c mc keevers da last nite.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 17, 2008, 11:06:24 PM
pints condemned not codoned would be quite correct. best of luck against clan e 2morrow.
jasus this spell check is just aswsome. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 18, 2008, 12:52:37 AM
Quoteit is bloody ridiculous to hold an entire football club accountable for teenagers who row outside a disco.

more than that, it is ridiculous to label the entire membership of a club as thugs because of the actions of a few in the parish who may or not be members of the club.

Aportioning any part of blame to the parish priest beggars belief.

obviously feelings are running high over the issue but a bit of perspective wouldn't go amiss

Thankfully there's somebody on the thread with some sort of grip on reality
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 18, 2008, 08:02:21 AM
I can't wait till certain individuals try and tell me that it is only clans people that live in the past and can't move on  :D :D


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 18, 2008, 09:25:31 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 18, 2008, 08:02:21 AM
I can't wait till certain individuals try and tell me that it is only clans people that live in the past and can't move on  :D :D

Yes you're right, we're talking about something that happened two weeks ago.
Bad i know but at least we can assume everyone here was born at the time. 



Tacadoir could you point to me who isn't in touch with reality?  ::) 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 18, 2008, 03:48:40 PM
Clann Eireann beat the 'bridge by a point - a goal in the last few minutes doing the damage.
For f**k sake.

Any other results today?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 18, 2008, 04:04:05 PM
sarsfields 3-13 tones 0-7.beat by local rivals by 15 a complete joke.alot of boys will have to have a good look at themselves.conor mccarron is the worst but every year the same he will start.if finn mo gets a start for armagh the year they will go nowhere. paul mcgaughey was brilliant 4 sarsfields.to think i got out of bed dying to go watch that farce
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 18, 2008, 04:28:23 PM
anportmor 3-5 Whitecross 0-8. ;D Great win Whitecross didnt score in the second half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 18, 2008, 05:06:07 PM
Someone says on orchardcounty that Nab beat Tir Na og.

you wouldnt know what to make of divison 2, impossible to predict results.

(this is the second time I've posted this the other one disappeared)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CelticWater on May 18, 2008, 05:08:15 PM
Culloville beat Mullaghbawn.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 18, 2008, 05:33:39 PM
anyone know the latest tables
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 18, 2008, 06:29:23 PM
by the way great result an port.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 18, 2008, 07:01:41 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on May 18, 2008, 05:33:39 PM
anyone know the latest tables

Just from last week that I can't be bothered changing
ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
St Michael's 6 5 0 1 10
Tir na nÓg 6 5 0 1 10
Granemore 6 4 0 2 8
Sarsfields 6 4 0 2 8
Clann Eireann 5 3 0 2 6
Silverbridge 6 3 0 3 6
Wolfe Tones 6 3 0 3 6
Ballymacnab 6 2 1 3 5
Carrickcruppen 6 2 1 3 5
Keady 5 1 0 4 2
An Port Mor 6 1 0 5 2
Whitecross 6 1 0 5 2

cruppen beat newtown. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 18, 2008, 07:04:58 PM

that table can't be right so. if newtown lost today, thats their second loss
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 18, 2008, 07:08:21 PM
and?

You never answer my post yesterday btw.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 18, 2008, 07:11:08 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on May 18, 2008, 06:27:32 PM
yep.
1+1=2
1+2=3
1+3=4 and so on.
I assume you were going for a timestables joke. Thats actually addition. You said you didnt have third level education but surely you made it to primary 3?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 18, 2008, 07:16:33 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 18, 2008, 07:08:21 PM
and?

Do you have to be a w**ker every minute of every day? it was a simple observation of fact that there was a slight error with the table you posted.

what was the question? i don't read your posts a lot of the time


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 18, 2008, 07:26:00 PM
Quote from: Uladh on May 18, 2008, 07:16:33 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 18, 2008, 07:08:21 PM
and?

Do you have to be a w**ker every minute of every day? it was a simple observation of fact that there was a slight error with the table you posted.

what was the question? i don't read your posts a lot of the time

f**king hell uladh, is there any call for that?

I said "and" because I don't see any error, and still don't but I'm clearly missing something - don't bother answering if you can't do it like a normal person. 

Oh and my question was in relation to you accusing someone (I assume me) of manipulating the Quinn incident - but, as I say above, don't bother if you're going to act like a hateful **** with pmt.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 18, 2008, 07:31:26 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on May 18, 2008, 06:29:23 PM
by the way great result an port.

thanks, big belief now that we can stay up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 18, 2008, 07:36:18 PM

You can't see how newtown having lost twice errs that table? right

Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 18, 2008, 07:26:00 PM
Oh and my question was in relation to you accusing someone (I assume me) of manipulating the Quinn incident - but, as I say above, don't bother if you're going to act like a hateful **** with pmt.

quote where i accused you of manipulating the quinn incident and i'll answer it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 18, 2008, 07:42:29 PM
QuoteYou can't see how newtown having lost twice errs that table? right

No because as far as I can see it says, last week, they had played 6 - won 5, lost 1 and have ten points.
Now they'll have played 7 - won 5, lost 2 and still have 10 points. 
So I really don't see what's wrong but maybe that's just me being thick. 


You said yesterday
QuoteThere's only one of us with motivation to manipulate the situation
to which I responded
QuoteWho me? How so?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 18, 2008, 07:44:19 PM
Heres todays tabel

                                 p  w  d  l  pts
St Michaels                   7  5  0  2  10
Tir na nOg                    7  5  0  2  10
Sarsfields                     7  5  0  2  10
Granemore                   6  4  0  2  8
Clann Eireann                6  4  0  2  8
Ballymacnab                  7  3  1  3  7
Carrickcruppen              7  3  1  3  7
Silverbridge                  7  3  0  4  6
Wolfe Tones                7  3  0  4  6
An Portmor                  7  2  0  5  4
Keady                         5  1  0  4  2
Whitecross                  7  1  0  6  2

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on May 18, 2008, 07:46:36 PM
cruppen beat newtown by 6 could ave been 26
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 18, 2008, 07:50:41 PM

you accused me of having an agenda to trivialise the issue. being a neutral i obviously have no such agenda. i simply pointed out that you, being a member of the bridge club, are more likely to have a reason to represent your own side's version as facts.

i made a mistake with the table - i didn't see your line about it being last week's. apologies for that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 18, 2008, 08:01:39 PM
Div 1
Cross beat Maghery

Div 3
Cross drew with Clonmore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 18, 2008, 08:09:14 PM
cruppen beat newtown today by 6 points in what was their best performance of the year so far! hopefully we can get a run going together now of winning a few games in a row! had we played the way we played today all year we would be unbeaten however if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 18, 2008, 08:14:38 PM
good win diesel. Every team in this division has lost at least 2 games now. Thats how tight it is. Sarsfields looking very strong at the moment. (So are An Portmor) Promotion and relagation looks to be between 3 teams. Then other 6 very tight in mid table.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 18, 2008, 08:21:39 PM
Clans beat killeavy  3-10 to 0-13 decent enough game but wouldn't break any world records. But a win a win, 2 points and the only way is up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on May 18, 2008, 08:48:21 PM
good til see kileavy beat again straight back down they come
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 18, 2008, 08:50:38 PM
Looks like they will be heading back down alright, to be honest there are a lot better teams in division two.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 18, 2008, 08:59:05 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on May 18, 2008, 08:14:38 PM
good win diesel. Every team in this division has lost at least 2 games now. Thats how tight it is. Sarsfields looking very strong at the moment. (So are An Portmor) Promotion and relagation looks to be between 3 teams. Then other 6 very tight in mid table.

i presume you mean the 3 teams in the promotion race are newtown, tir na nog and sarsfields?? i wouldnt be ruling anyone out to be honest. cruppen have not had the start we intended but a good win today can maybe set us on the right track. everyone is dropping points so i definately believe we will be there come the end of the season.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 18, 2008, 09:03:48 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 18, 2008, 08:59:05 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on May 18, 2008, 08:14:38 PM
good win diesel. Every team in this division has lost at least 2 games now. Thats how tight it is. Sarsfields looking very strong at the moment. (So are An Portmor) Promotion and relagation looks to be between 3 teams. Then other 6 very tight in mid table.

i presume you mean the 3 teams in the promotion race are newtown, tir na nog and sarsfields?? i wouldnt be ruling anyone out to be honest. cruppen have not had the start we intended but a good win today can maybe set us on the right track. everyone is dropping points so i definately believe we will be there come the end of the season.

Yeah I agree, I'll be surprised if Sarsfields can keep it up and shocked if whitecross continue to struggle. 
Long way to go yet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 18, 2008, 09:58:05 PM
Great win for St Pat's to bounce back after Friday night's disappointment up at Ibrox.

Pearse Ogs were much the better side in the first 20 minutes with the 2 Clarke brother causing a lot of problems, particularly Ronan. They went 4 up after we scored an own goal but St Pat's got back into it late in the first half with a Shane McKeever penalty. Excellent second half performance to win by 2 points. Clarke was a lot quiter after Ciaran O'Hare was moved onto him although he always looked like he might be a threat. Ogs just didn't get enough of the ball to him in the second half. Another good performance from midfield and Aidan Mackin and Eugene Casey both had excellent games. Great to get back to winning ways so quickly and beating the county finalists with all of their county players available is a superb result for Cullyhanna.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: KIDDO 4 on May 18, 2008, 11:09:10 PM
Cullyhanna defeated Baileborough by a comprehensive margin  in thePaulMcGirr cup competition inDromore yesterday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on May 18, 2008, 11:40:47 PM
Good result for st pats today vs pearse ogs winning by 1.12 to 1.10. We looked dead and buried at 1.4 to 2 points down after twenty minutes but some good play and a penalty from Shane Mc Keever brought us back into the game. Ogs got off to a good start in the second half with two early points but a strong last twenty minutes from Liam O Hare Eugene Casey Malachy Mackin and Aidan Mackin brought cully hanna back into the game eventually took the lead with about 5 minutes to go. Valuable two points for our lads who showed great heart and determination to get back into the game.

I was at the match on friday night vs cross and admit that we were totally out played at times by a much stronger cross sde. There is definitely twenty in a row in the pipeline lads. Cross and in particular the Mcentees destroyed us at times but it was great experience for our young lads to be on the same pitch as legends such as Francie, the twins Oisin and Aaron Kernan.

Btw out of interest to our bridge posters Kieran Mc Keever or Liam O Hare were not allowed to play in the game by the count senior management and did not shite out of it as was posted on here earlier.

I am fairly new to this board and thought that it was essentially to do with posting about your own team , your county team and other Gaa matters. some of the items which I am only reading now which have been posted on regarding my club and even the parish priest in Cullyhanna are nothing short of disgraceful as well as being untrue. I would also point out that I am not a coward or indeed a thug. What happened to Conal Quinn was nothing short of disgraceful but as POG knows so much about the incident I would suggest that he contacts the Gardai or Psni immediately to discuss it as I take that he was actually in Laceys on that night ( I thought that i read earlier that he was in Italy).

I am glad that young quinn is Okay as are a number of young lads from Cullyhanna who also picked up some knocks on the night.Cullyhanna as a club have come a long way over the last number of years both on and off the field of play and while we have problems with some of our younger members we are certanly not the only club with that difficulty. Te best that we can hope is to provide them with a way to challenge their talents and energy on the field of play as I think Silverbridge and other clubs should do as well.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 18, 2008, 11:49:26 PM
QuoteI am glad that young quinn is Okay as are a number of young lads from Cullyhanna who also picked up some knocks on the night.
f**king hell you've a bigger neck on you than tacadoir. 

Why would I be contacting the authorities when there are plently to do that if the victims wanted to go down that path?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on May 18, 2008, 11:57:52 PM
I am glad that you can acknowledge that but do you also acknowledge that the other shit which you have posted on this board regarding my club and indeed that parish of which about half your club members are from is also complete and utter nonsense ie that the parish priest lives elsewhere , that our club does nothing for thecomunity and that we are all a pack of thugs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 19, 2008, 12:05:23 AM
Quote from: pats-mc on May 18, 2008, 11:57:52 PM
I am glad that you can acknowledge that but do you also acknowledge that the other shit which you have posted on this board regarding my club and indeed that parish of which about half your club members are from is also complete and utter nonsense ie that the parish priest lives elsewhere , that our club does nothing for thecomunity and that we are all a pack of thugs.

What did I say about your parish?
The priest didnt go and live wiht his sister after his house was robbed and wrecked a few weeks ago?
I've never said that your club does nothing for the community.
I've never said you were a pack of thugs either, there are thugs among you and you don't seem to mind and I've put forward my reasons for thinking that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on May 19, 2008, 12:24:58 AM
Anybody know what the hell happened the tones today. f**king hammered by 15 points in a local derby  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 19, 2008, 12:53:52 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 18, 2008, 09:58:05 PM
Great win for St Pat's to bounce back after Friday night's disappointment up at Ibrox.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 19, 2008, 12:54:53 AM
I like that one ill certainly be using that again!!!  ;D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on May 19, 2008, 01:07:44 AM
Pats MC - Can I give you another perspective from the other sideof the parish? It is unacceptable that Cullen has thrown his lot in with Cullyhanna when he should be equally supportive of both clubs.  In Newtown also it doesn't go down well when you hear of the antics of your players off the field.  You can keep your head in the sand, but until Cullyhanna people realise they have a serious problem with a particularly lawless and brutal youth, coupled with a 'Have you no elbows?' attitude among team mentors, you are not going to solve any of the problems that exist in that village. Your senior team manager has a litany of disgraceful acts after his name, and watch how few outsiders attend your opening next week
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 19, 2008, 01:24:09 AM
I heard a funny story a couple of weeks ago and maybe some of you can confirm if it's true. Cullyhanna had that pig racing or something and apparently the same priest made the announcement on the alter and followed it with 'maybe the pigs from silverbridge will join us'. Considering the relationship between the clubs that was very helpful.
It's a strange thing for a ballyhegan man who can be found in our resource centre 4 or 5 nights a week to say.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 19, 2008, 07:54:17 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 18, 2008, 09:58:05 PM
Great win for St Pat's to bounce back after Friday night's disappointment up at Ibrox.

Pearse Ogs were much the better side in the first 20 minutes with the 2 Clarke brother causing a lot of problems, particularly Ronan. They went 4 up after we scored an own goal but St Pat's got back into it late in the first half with a Shane McKeever penalty. Excellent second half performance to win by 2 points. Clarke was a lot quiter after Ciaran O'Hare was moved onto him although he always looked like he might be a threat. Ogs just didn't get enough of the ball to him in the second half. Another good performance from midfield and Aidan Mackin and Eugene Casey both had excellent games. Great to get back to winning ways so quickly and beating the county finalists with all of their county players available is a superb result for Cullyhanna.

A disappointing result yesterday.  The Ogs had the opportunity to have the game dead and buried in the first half.  Out of 19 chances in the first half we converted 6.  We took the foot off the pedal when we went 4 in front and allowed St Pats back into it, with a penalty coming at just the right time for them. 

Mackin took control of midifeld in the last 15 minutes and it was all St Pats from there.  Our defence worked well but our decision making and finishing in the last 3rd let us down.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 19, 2008, 08:45:56 AM
Sunday 18 May

ACL – Division One
Maghery 0-6; Crossmaglen 0-17
Killeavey 0-13; Clan na Gael 3-10
Mullaghbawn 1-13; Culloville 3-10
St Patrick's 1-11; Pearse Og 1-9

ACL – Division Two
Tir na nÓg 0-14; Ballymacnab 2-11
Whitecross 0-8;An Port Mor 3-5
Keady v Granemore (Off)
St Michael's 2-6; Carrickcruppen 3-9
Sarsfields 3-13; Wolfe Tones 0-7
Silverbridge 0-12; Clann Eireann 2-7

ACL – Division Three
Belleek 1-11; Lissummon 1-4
Collegeland 3-13; Tullysaran 0-10
St Peter's 1-17; Grange 0-6
Annaghmore v Madden (Off)
Clonmore 4-7; Crossmaglen II 3-10
Ballyhegan 1-12; St Paul's 0-9

ACL – Division Four
Forkhill 3-9; Dorsey Emmett's 0-10
Middletown v Derrynoose (Off)
O'Hanlon's 0-11; Clady 3-4
Phelim Brady's 1-9; Mullaghbrack 1-11
Shane O'Neill's 3-16; Corrinshego 1-4
Bye – Eire Og

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 19, 2008, 08:46:36 AM
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 18 MAY 2008

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 6 5 1 0 11
St Patrick's 7 5 0 2 10
Culloville 6 4 1 1 9
Pearse Og 6 4 1 1 9
Mullaghbawn 6 3 1 2 7
Clan na Gael 7 2 2 3 6
Dromintee 6 2 1 3 5
Harps 6 1 2 3 4
Killeavey 7 1 0 6 2
Maghery 6 0 1 5 1

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
St Michael's 7 5 0 2 10
Tir na nÓg 7 5 0 2 10
Sarsfields 7 5 0 2 10
Clann Eireann 6 4 0 2 8
Granemore 6 4 0 2 8
Ballymacnab 7 3 1 3 7
Carrickcruppen 7 3 1 3 7
Silverbridge 7 3 0 4 6
Wolfe Tones 7 3 0 4 6
An Port Mor 7 2 0 5 4
Keady 5 1 0 4 2
Whitecross 7 1 0 6 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on May 19, 2008, 09:10:57 AM
Candyman, is your match v Dromintee on tonight and if so where is it on?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 19, 2008, 09:17:25 AM
Yeah its on 2nite and we are away to Dromintee.
Of all feckin nites to have a match, its on a monday... :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on May 19, 2008, 09:19:02 AM
Both sides need a win.

Are the county lads available?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 19, 2008, 09:20:50 AM
Bit of help with directions from the Dromintee boys please, I dont think I've ever got to the Dromintee pitch while not getting lost somewhere along the way. 

If I go into Meigh is it the Railway Rd that takes you directly to the pitch?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: FermGael on May 19, 2008, 10:11:40 AM
Could any of you kind Armagh folk give me directions or a map to Eire og playing fields??
I have a schools fixture there tommorrow.  Will be coming in from Belfast.
Much Appreciated
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on May 19, 2008, 10:19:02 AM
How come Harps are struggling? I didn't expect to see them down around bottom.

Fermgael - if you come off the M1 at Lurgan head towards the town then right at the first set of lights. The end of the road right again. At the end of that road left. Then you come to a round about and the pitch is beside it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 19, 2008, 10:40:34 AM
If a parish priest is coming out with comments like this then i don't know what can be done around that area. The priests are supposed to be the pillars of society. If they are stoking the fire then there is no hope for the common low lifes. Not being from the cullyhanna area only leads me to guess that what is happening is the countryside is turning into a town. It seems certain individuals are getting too big for their boots and starting to cause havoc in the local area. This sort of behaviour is very noticeable in bigger towns or cities but tends to be more low key in rural areas. The old drink/ drug culture is starting to seep into the country. This is probably the only part of our society that is still fairly settled in terms of violence and thuggery. It would be a shame to let village idiots ruin it. Though i know for a fact there are a lot of good folk in Cullyhanna so it is unfair to try and enthnicly clense them all for the behaviour of a few.

I thought Martin Mc Quillan was managing Cullyhanna the year. When we played them up there i was chatting to him and asumed he had taken over the reins. Who is this other guys you are refering too?? Has he white hair, because there was a guy with white hair trouncing about also.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on May 19, 2008, 11:10:11 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 19, 2008, 09:20:50 AM
Bit of help with directions from the Dromintee boys please, I dont think I've ever got to the Dromintee pitch while not getting lost somewhere along the way. 

If I go into Meigh is it the Railway Rd that takes you directly to the pitch?

Benny, it has been a while since i have played in Dromintee, but if you are coming from Meigh, take the first road on the left after you come out of the village, Aghdavoyle Road i think it is called, it is at a kind of crossroads, and go along this road, and the pitch will be on your right hand side, around about a mile along the road. if it is still there, there should be a big grey wall around the ptich you cannot miss!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Broken_Cross on May 19, 2008, 11:11:23 AM
Quote from: FermGael on May 19, 2008, 10:11:40 AM
Could any of you kind Armagh folk give me directions or a map to Eire og playing fields??
I have a schools fixture there tommorrow.  Will be coming in from Belfast.
Much Appreciated

Here ya go

http://www.orchardcounty.com/modules.php?name=Club_Locator (http://www.orchardcounty.com/modules.php?name=Club_Locator)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 11:21:19 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 19, 2008, 09:20:50 AM
Bit of help with directions from the Dromintee boys please, I dont think I've ever got to the Dromintee pitch while not getting lost somewhere along the way. 

If I go into Meigh is it the Railway Rd that takes you directly to the pitch?

If you know how to get to meigh your grand. Go straight through the village of Meigh, don't take the left at the pub, through the traffic calming measures (just an island with the speed limit on it) and it is the next left. Theres a sign there pointing down that road saying dromnintee playing fields. It is about a mile on down towards the bottom of that road on your righthandside, you cant miss it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 19, 2008, 11:34:47 AM
SPOT ON WIN . CHEIF THUG HIMSELF
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 19, 2008, 12:20:15 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 19, 2008, 10:40:34 AM
If a parish priest is coming out with comments like this then i don't know what can be done around that area.

But did he say this win? there's a whole lot of hearsay here to be condemning a parish priest.
even if thse were the words used, chinese whispers can soon warp jovial or welcoming comments into something more inflammatory
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 12:22:12 PM
Who is the guy with the white hair? Is he the manager, he seemed to be whenever we played him. I must note that he actually seemed a very reserved character on that day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 19, 2008, 01:46:33 PM
Big meeting in Dromintee this week.
Fearon quit as chairman because of the trouble with Loughran wanting to join (allegedly)
Whats the story corn & uladh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 19, 2008, 01:59:04 PM
QUOTE FROM I'VE DECIDED
"I like that, i'll certainly be using that again".

THE GAME WAS IN SILVERBRIDGE
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 02:04:46 PM
Quote from: full back on May 19, 2008, 01:46:33 PM
Big meeting in Dromintee this week.
Fearon quit as chairman because of the trouble with Loughran wanting to join (allegedly)
Whats the story corn & uladh?

Where did you hear that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 19, 2008, 02:13:24 PM
From a club member
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 02:19:08 PM
A dromintee club member? Theres probably lots of rumours flying around from different members but to be honest there isn't a whole pile in it really. The meeting is just a rubber-stamping excercise, confirm committee apointments and move on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 19, 2008, 02:25:07 PM
Did Fearon quit or threaten to?
Whats the story with Loughran, why is there so much discontent with him wanting to join?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 02:31:16 PM
I wouldn't say there was any "discontent" as such. The club just decided to reject his transfer for obvious traditional reasons i.e. him not being from Dromintee. There were no resignations over the matter.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 19, 2008, 02:37:01 PM
He must be a liar - telling me there was discontent within the club..........
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 02:42:40 PM
No he probably just got the wrong end of the chinese whispers. People like gossip.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 19, 2008, 02:46:07 PM
the story goes that fearon did resign after taking a lot of shit from the o rourkes. it seems the vote was tied on the transfer in question and the chairman cast to keep the status quo as is traditional.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 02:48:42 PM
Am afraid that that is just as you say, a "story". Simply not true.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 19, 2008, 02:59:10 PM
chill out only winding you. Fearon is a bloody good chairman and should be respected.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 03:00:49 PM
There is no animosity on my part, was just putting it straight. What club are you from anyway?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 19, 2008, 03:05:41 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on May 19, 2008, 02:46:07 PM
the story goes that fearon did resign after taking a lot of shit from the o rourkes. it seems the vote was tied on the transfer in question and the chairman cast to keep the status quo as is traditional.


Thats what he told me as well charlie
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 03:06:39 PM
Maybe you were both speaking to the same gossip merchant.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 19, 2008, 03:11:45 PM
Glad to hear all is well within the club doire....
BTW, why didnt you want Loughran?
He would certainly help you lot
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 19, 2008, 03:21:43 PM
Doire what goes on within a club should stay in the club. my info came 3rd hand from a slabber living in dromintee originally from sbridge.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 19, 2008, 03:41:29 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on May 19, 2008, 03:21:43 PM
Doire what goes on within a club should stay in the club. my info came 3rd hand from a slabber living in dromintee originally from sbridge.

Is that a family of slabbers originally from Silverbridge and now living in Dromintee :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 03:46:08 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on May 19, 2008, 03:21:43 PM
Doire what goes on within a club should stay in the club. my info came 3rd hand from a slabber living in dromintee originally from sbridge.
yeah I agree, fairplay.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 19, 2008, 03:49:09 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 19, 2008, 03:41:29 PM
Is that a family of slabbers originally from Silverbridge and now living in Dromintee :P

The family you're probably referring to have always lived in dromintee? their da is a blow in though!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 03:50:33 PM
Quote from: full back on May 19, 2008, 03:11:45 PM
Glad to hear all is well within the club doire....
BTW, why didnt you want Loughran?
He would certainly help you lot
Well, as I said, the club did reject his transfer for traditional reasons. He isnt from Dromintee nor does he have any connection with the club. Thats basically it, there was strong wave of opinion that the club didnt want to be one of 'those' types of clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 19, 2008, 03:56:30 PM
Quote from: Candyman on May 19, 2008, 08:46:36 AM
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 18 MAY 2008

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 6 5 1 0 11
St Patrick's 7 5 0 2 10
Culloville 6 4 1 1 9
Pearse Og 6 4 1 1 9
Mullaghbawn 6 3 1 2 7
Clan na Gael 7 2 2 3 6
Dromintee 6 2 1 3 5
Harps 6 1 2 3 4
Killeavey 7 1 0 6 2
Maghery 6 0 1 5 1

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
St Michael's 7 5 0 2 10
Tir na nÓg 7 5 0 2 10
Sarsfields 7 5 0 2 10
Clann Eireann 6 4 0 2 8
Granemore 6 4 0 2 8
Ballymacnab 7 3 1 3 7
Carrickcruppen 7 3 1 3 7
Silverbridge 7 3 0 4 6
Wolfe Tones 7 3 0 4 6
An Port Mor 7 2 0 5 4
Keady 5 1 0 4 2
Whitecross 7 1 0 6 2


Candyman,

You dont have the tables fro div 3 & 4 by an chance?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 19, 2008, 04:51:06 PM
Uladh i am only working from the information i hve got here so i wouldn't be 20 % sure the words were said.

On the issue of loughran, If Dromintee rejected the transfer fo traditional reasons then fair play till them. They can leave the merchaneries to cross ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 19, 2008, 04:56:32 PM
I know we have taken players in before but the reason we rejected was because Clady were not happy about him leaving, the club  decided against it for that reason and I appluad them for it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 19, 2008, 05:00:20 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 03:50:33 PM
Quote from: full back on May 19, 2008, 03:11:45 PM
Glad to hear all is well within the club doire....
BTW, why didnt you want Loughran?
He would certainly help you lot
Well, as I said, the club did reject his transfer for traditional reasons. He isnt from Dromintee nor does he have any connection with the club. Thats basically it, there was strong wave of opinion that the club didnt want to be one of 'those' types of clubs.

Oliver Gaughran ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 19, 2008, 05:07:38 PM
QuoteI heard a funny story a couple of weeks ago and maybe some of you can confirm if it's true. Cullyhanna had that pig racing or something and apparently the same priest made the announcement on the alter and followed it with 'maybe the pigs from silverbridge will join us'. Considering the relationship between the clubs that was very helpful.
It's a strange thing for a ballyhegan man who can be found in our resource centre 4 or 5 nights a week to say.

The pig racing was in 2006. Strange your only picking up on this "gossip" now. Now I don't go to mass in Cullyhanna every Sunday but that sounds like one of the most ridiculous and brazen lies I've ever heard.

QuoteI thought Martin Mc Quillan was managing Cullyhanna the year. When we played them up there i was chatting to him and asumed he had taken over the reins. Who is this other guys you are refering too?? Has he white hair, because there was a guy with white hair trouncing about also.

Steven Casey (the fella with the white hair) is the manager. Martin McQuillan is back for a second stint as trainer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 19, 2008, 05:12:58 PM
See my post fullback, as I said we have taken in players. I think Gaughran was the only one who was not a Dromintee man. Shanes had accepted he was for leaving, Clady did not want Loughran to leave so that is the reason declined it I am led to believe.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 19, 2008, 05:30:50 PM
Could be wrong but thought there was a fall out in Camloch over departure of Gaughran from Camlough few years back. Think his father after a lifetimes service walked away after club refused the transfer and plater had to wait an extra year!!
Think any club has a duty to nurture young players through their ranks, and i applaud Drumintee committee for taking this stance, as the easy option would have been to try and take a so called big name player!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 19, 2008, 05:35:30 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on May 19, 2008, 05:30:50 PM
Could be wrong but thought there was a fall out in Camloch over departure of Gaughran from Camlough few years back.

You might be right there yes...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 19, 2008, 06:16:31 PM
And I could be wrong about Gaughran, I am not certain on the issue. Either way if he waited the year effectively we didn't poach him as he was a 'free-agent'.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 19, 2008, 06:17:23 PM
Tac
QuoteThe pig racing was in 2006. Strange your only picking up on this "gossip" now. Now I don't go to mass in Cullyhanna every Sunday but that sounds like one of the most ridiculous and brazen lies I've ever heard.
Yes I know it was, it wasn't long after the Cross incident.  It's a pity you can only take your head out of the sand long enough to call me a liar rather than answer any other point.
If I was lying about something like this I think I'd make up something more recent and I'd probably say I heard it myself. 
But even though you don't be at mass every sunday you're probably right, you'd know if he said it or not and I'm a liar  ::) - and if I was lying how the f**k would I remember Cullyhanna having pig racing 2 years ago!

I do think he was probably winding but he must have no sense if he couldn't see the bad feeling between the clubs and that comments like that are not going to help, as your club mate pointed out there are silverbridge people from that parish Fr Cullen doesnt think of them things.
I could not imagine a priest standing on the alter in Cross talking about the pigs from Cullaville. 

There are a lot of people I know that would list him as one of the reasons for the shite that goes on but personally I just think he has no cop on.



Goats or Heganboy has he ever bothered with his own club?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 19, 2008, 06:55:13 PM
QuoteBut even though you don't be at mass every sunday you're probably right, you'd know if he said it or not and I'm a liar

I didn't call you a liar. I said the story was likely a lie but sure it wasn't something you witnessed, it was a lie you heard. Not your fault you've poor sources Pints and I wouldn't dream of blaming you for that.
Title: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 19, 2008, 06:58:48 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 19, 2008, 06:55:13 PM
QuoteBut even though you don't be at mass every sunday you're probably right, you'd know if he said it or not and I'm a liar

I didn't call you a liar. I said the story was likely a lie but sure it wasn't something you witnessed, it was a lie you heard. Not your fault you've poor sources Pints and I wouldn't dream of blaming you for that.

I honestly don't think my source would have told a lie in their life and they wouldnt give a f**k about either club, they'd be more worried about the fact he done it from the alter. 
Title: Re: .
Post by: full back on May 19, 2008, 07:06:29 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 19, 2008, 06:58:48 PM
I honestly don't think my source would have told a lie in their life

Jesus Christ?
Title: Re: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 19, 2008, 07:17:33 PM
Quote from: full back on May 19, 2008, 07:06:29 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 19, 2008, 06:58:48 PM
I honestly don't think my source would have told a lie in their life

Jesus Christ?
Yes my child?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 07:46:11 PM
I personally can't see any differences between the Gaughran transfer and the proposed Loughran transfer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 19, 2008, 07:49:58 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 19, 2008, 06:16:31 PM
And I could be wrong about Gaughran, I am not certain on the issue. Either way if he waited the year effectively we didn't poach him as he was a 'free-agent'.

So if Loughran takes a year out then it is ok?
There is no difference
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 07:54:09 PM
Sorry, can I just point out also that there was absolutely no atempt of "poaching" in this Loughran case. He wanted to leave Clady and wanted to join our club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 19, 2008, 08:47:34 PM
any word from the dromintee / harps game??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 19, 2008, 08:49:33 PM

Harps won easily by 6 o 7. should have been far more. dromintee are a bad division 2 team without aidan o'rourke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 08:50:14 PM
Not at it cos am too busy pretending to study but apparently we were beat by 6.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 08:56:57 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 19, 2008, 08:49:33 PM

Harps won easily by 6 o 7. should have been far more. dromintee are a bad division 2 team without aidan o'rourke

Dromintee have essentially been without Aidan O'Rourke for most of their league games for many years prior to Aidan being dropped from Armagh in 2006. They have rarely struggled during any of those years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 19, 2008, 09:05:12 PM

WIN

What are merchaneries. ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 19, 2008, 09:27:21 PM
Dromintee 0-8 Harps 1-11
Things obviously are a bit amiss with Dromintee but Harps produced the best performance I have seen in a long long time, we really bossed the game from start to finish and although at 0-11 to 0-8 with about five minutes left I got that sinking feeling that Dromintee were going to sneak something from the game, it would have been an absolute travesty if they had.  We hit a fair amount of wides in both halves, it could have been a lot worse for Dromintee.

Unfair to single out indiviuals as we had stand out performers all over the pitch, but Gill was a rock at FB, Vernon, Nippy, McKinney and Holmes all stood out in the MF diamond area, Kevin Kelly won everything that came near him and was excellent with 1-7 (0-4fs & 1 sideline ball), but the MOTM had to be Jungle McKee who scored 0-2 from play(as a corner back- although given a free role) and was outstanding all over the pitch. Minnie and Sean Morrison got good points from play.

Not too many from Dromintee wanted to know, Michael O'Rourke their best performer by a long way, MOR worked hard as did Shannon. Thought O'Neill was anonymous, totally dominated by the Harps MF and well contained by Gill when moved to FF.

Harps Lined out
Dingle
Daly, Gill, Jungle
Chucky, Charlie, Grimes
PMcK & Holmes
Nippy, Minnie, Ebby
K Kelly, P Morrison, S Morrison

No subs used.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 19, 2008, 09:30:39 PM
Things being amiss is no excuse Benny. Had to workin late so missed the match but by all accounts Harps outplayed us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on May 19, 2008, 10:17:17 PM
Harps played well, and 2 points we needed. Its difficult to realise how far back Dromintee have went. I know its only the league, but to be beat so easily on their own patch by a team that havent beat them for quite some time.

can any Harps remember the last tome we beat Dromintee??

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 6 5 1 0 11
St Patrick's 7 5 0 2 10
Culloville 6 4 1 1 9
Pearse Og 6 4 1 1 9
Mullaghbawn 6 3 1 2 7
Clan na Gael 7 2 2 3 6
Harps 7 2 2 3 6
Dromintee 7 2 1 4 5
Killeavey 7 1 0 6 2
Maghery 6 0 1 5 1 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on May 19, 2008, 10:57:38 PM
Thanks for the report Benny - sorry I missed the game but got a lot of detail of Egg and Jacko and will get a report of sorts up on our website. I honestly believe, outside of the St Pats and Cross games, that we should have won the rest, which would have left us comfortably placed. Well done to all concerned!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 19, 2008, 11:24:32 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 19, 2008, 08:56:57 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 19, 2008, 08:49:33 PM

Harps won easily by 6 o 7. should have been far more. dromintee are a bad division 2 team without aidan o'rourke

Dromintee have essentially been without Aidan O'Rourke for most of their league games for many years prior to Aidan being dropped from Armagh in 2006. They have rarely struggled during any of those years.

we had him all last year and finished second in the league. we haven't picked up a single point without him this year, in fact we've picked up only hidings in the games he hasn't played. we're in serious relegaton bother
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 19, 2008, 11:43:20 PM
A mercenary is a person who takes part in an armed conflict (Armagh league and championships, plus closer to the sanger for the chucks) who is not a national or a party to the conflict and "is motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain (glory) and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a Party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar ranks and functions in the armed forces of that Party" (All Irelands or championships). ;) ;)

I hope this answers your question crossfire:

I didn't have time to sit and spell check the original post but apologies if it threw you of the general point i was trying to make.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 20, 2008, 09:01:10 AM
Nonsense Agha. Since we have won the league we have been in relegation toruble nearly every year. We just don't play well in the league, and that has been the way of it for yearts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 20, 2008, 09:56:29 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on May 19, 2008, 03:56:30 PM
Quote from: Candyman on May 19, 2008, 08:46:36 AM
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 18 MAY 2008

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 6 5 1 0 11
St Patrick's 7 5 0 2 10
Culloville 6 4 1 1 9
Pearse Og 6 4 1 1 9
Mullaghbawn 6 3 1 2 7
Clan na Gael 7 2 2 3 6
Dromintee 6 2 1 3 5
Harps 6 1 2 3 4
Killeavey 7 1 0 6 2
Maghery 6 0 1 5 1

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
St Michael's 7 5 0 2 10
Tir na nÓg 7 5 0 2 10
Sarsfields 7 5 0 2 10
Clann Eireann 6 4 0 2 8
Granemore 6 4 0 2 8
Ballymacnab 7 3 1 3 7
Carrickcruppen 7 3 1 3 7
Silverbridge 7 3 0 4 6
Wolfe Tones 7 3 0 4 6
An Port Mor 7 2 0 5 4
Keady 5 1 0 4 2
Whitecross 7 1 0 6 2


Candyman,

You dont have the tables fro div 3 & 4 by an chance?

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Collegeland 7 7 0 0 14
Madden 6 4 1 1 9
St Paul's 7 4 1 2 9
Belleek 7 4 1 2 9
Annaghmore 6 4 0 2 8
Lissummon 7 3 2 2 8
St Peter's 7 4 0 3 8
Ballyhegan 7 3 0 4 6
Clonmore 7 2 1 4 5
Grange 7 1 1 5 3
Tullysaran 7 1 0 6 2
Crossmaglen II 7 0 1 6 1

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 6 6 0 0 12
Eire Og 6 5 0 1 10
Forkhill 7 4 0 3 8
Middletown 5 3 1 1 7
Derrynoose 5 3 0 2 6
O'Hanlon's 6 3 0 3 6
Clady 6 2 1 3 5
Corrinshego 6 2 0 4 4
Dorsey Emmett's 6 2 0 4 4
Mullaghbrack 7 2 0 5 4
Phelim Brady's 6 0 0 6 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on May 20, 2008, 10:23:58 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 20, 2008, 09:01:10 AM
Nonsense Agha. Since we have won the league we have been in relegation toruble nearly every year. We just don't play well in the league, and that has been the way of it for yearts.

Second in the league last year, 4th in 2006 and second in 2005.

This year

Maghery - struggled to beat possibly the worst team in the league
Mullaghbawn - Drew against a team with no forwards
Cullaville - hammered at home
Cullyhanna - hammered away
Clans - good performance and win away
Cross - hammered at home
Harps - well beaten at home
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 20, 2008, 10:44:29 AM

Went up to the game last night and was quite impressed with the harps. much tighter at the back and much more direct than previous years i've seen them.
there's a lot to be said for these mid week games - there were a lot of neutrals at the game. saw a lot of killeavy, mullaghbawn and bridge lads there last night.

Big kelly can certainly dig the frees and his line ball was a hell of a kick. the big fella in the middle (McKinney?) fetched some super balls and swift was very dangerous throughout. the harps full back line was excellent - the full back in particular winning a lot of ball. harps number 4 was excellent breaking forward and had some turn of pace.

Dromintee were abysmal. how they were still in the game at half time is beyond me. they were never in the game. harps dominated the midfield and surrounding areas and only eddie martin was holding out at the back it could have been a masacre. harps also had a perfectly good goal ruled out for square ball in the first half. michael o'rourkes frees kept them in the game though he missed a sitter towards the end which meant 5-4 turned into 6-3 at half time.

second half was more of the same. dromintee had no posession and no threat up front when they did get upfield. again, only o'rourke's frees kept them in touch. they rallied a bit with 5 or 6 to go when 6 behind and pegged harps back to 3 points before a blooper from the dromintee keeper (not mcevoy) ended the game.

Only Shannon and michael o'rourke showed anything at all for dromintee but harps were well worth a 6 point win and then some.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Imposerous on May 20, 2008, 11:03:47 AM
Quote from: Uladh on May 20, 2008, 10:44:29 AM

the big fella in the middle (McKinney?) fetched some super balls

Perhaps my previous suggestion that Mckinney is one of the best fielders in the county isn't so outlandish as you inferred?

Is he anything to the Ogs keeper Mckinney – another family split a la the Grimleys?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 20, 2008, 11:15:59 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on May 20, 2008, 10:23:58 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 20, 2008, 09:01:10 AM
Nonsense Agha. Since we have won the league we have been in relegation toruble nearly every year. We just don't play well in the league, and that has been the way of it for yearts.

Second in the league last year, 4th in 2006 and second in 2005.

This year

Maghery - struggled to beat possibly the worst team in the league
Mullaghbawn - Drew against a team with no forwards
Cullaville - hammered at home
Cullyhanna - hammered away
Clans - good performance and win away
Cross - hammered at home
Harps - well beaten at home

Not to be pedantic Aghdavoyle but we finished third in the league last year. And we had to play those dreadful relegation playoff's in 2006 (with AOR involved in most of the games which, if won, could have avoided them) so we couldn't possibly have finished fourth.

Also we most certainly did not struggle against Maghery this year, I wouldn't call a five point win struggling?

Obviously we are a far better team with Aidan O'Rourke, that goes without saying, he's a class act who can control a game. But to say we are a bad division two team without him is extremely unfair and inaccurate. Last year was the first year in many that Aidan O'Rourke was involved in the whole league campaign.

... So if we are a poor division two team without him then how have we managed to stay up all those years without him?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 20, 2008, 11:40:26 AM
The division one table is stil wrong,when is sum1 goin2 but up the correct one.  Mullaghbawn have played 7games to date
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 20, 2008, 12:08:56 PM
Are their points the same Real or should they be higher ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 20, 2008, 12:13:31 PM
ACL – Division One (2.00)

Dromintee v Pearse Og
Harps v Maghery
Crossmaglen v Killeavey
Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn
Culloville v St Patrick's 

Any predictions???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 20, 2008, 12:17:38 PM
Think this is the last week the county men are available?? We have to make Sunday count and not do what countless harps teams have done before and follow up a good performance with a kat one!

Dromintee
Harps
Cross
Mullaghbawn (maybe a draw)
St Pats (could be a draw too)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 20, 2008, 12:19:49 PM
Would agree benny but I think from what I've saw cullaville could just beat St. Pats, That will be a very tight game though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 20, 2008, 12:30:35 PM

Benny - you must have seen something i didn't last night if you think dromintee will beat the ogs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 20, 2008, 12:41:46 PM
Maybe wishful thinking alright, but I was hoping AOR would be playing on Sunday, was delighted he was missing last night!  Also,  I dont think Dromintee would like the thought of 2 townie teams coming up and beating them in consectutive games!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Abble on May 20, 2008, 01:09:00 PM
can anyone post up all armagh ACL fixtures for next weekend ? thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 20, 2008, 01:25:30 PM
I think Dromintee will win, its a must-win game. The last one with the county players and its a valuable two points that we really need. Its because of that pressure that I think we'l just squeeze it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 20, 2008, 01:45:38 PM
I'm glad you got yourself a lexicon WIN.

You certainly needed one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 20, 2008, 01:58:21 PM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 25 MAY 2008


Monday 19 May

ACL – Division One (7.30)
Dromintee v Harps (Stephen Murray)


Thursday 22 May

Under-21 Football Championship Quarter-Final (7.30)
Dromintee v Granemore (Kevin McNeice) at Dromintee

Under-21 Football Championship Semi-Final (7.30)
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen (Jimmy McKee) at Silverbridge


Sunday 25 May

ACL – Division One (2.00)
Dromintee v Pearse Og (Eamon Nugent)
Harps v Maghery (Jim Slevin)
Crossmaglen v Killeavey (Kevin McNeice)
Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn (Tony O'Hare)
Culloville v St Patrick's (Kevin Murtagh)

ACL – Division Two (2.00)
Clann Eireann v Tir na nÓg (Paul Boylan)
Carrickcruppen v Keady (Off)
An Port Mor v Sarsfields (Ger Devlin)
Wolfe Tones v St Michael's (Mickey Leonard)
Granemore v Silverbridge (Henry McCloy)
Ballymacnab v Whitecross (Jim Burns)

ACL – Division Three (2.00)
St Paul's v Belleek (Damian McConville)
Madden v St Peter's (Oliver Hearty)
Tullysaran v Clonmore (Jimmy McKee)
Grange v Ballyhegan (Stephen McKinley)
Lissummon v Collegeland (Stephen Murray)
Crossmaglen II v Annaghmore (Kevin Gallogly)

ACL – Division Four (2.00)
Eire Og v Forkhill (Brendan Gorman)
Dorsey Emmett's v Middletown (Dessie McDonnell)
Derrynoose v O'Hanlon's (Noel Martin)
Clady v Phelim Brady's (Gary Smith)
Mullaghbrack v Shane O'Neill's (Paul Rath)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sean og on May 20, 2008, 07:59:26 PM
Rumour has it that p loughran is transfering to
ballyholland or burren?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 20, 2008, 09:14:40 PM
looks like burren
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on May 20, 2008, 09:18:18 PM
Quote from: sean og on May 20, 2008, 07:59:26 PM
Rumour has it that p loughran is transfering to
ballyholland or burren?

if he is that desperate to get out of clady, can someone pass on my mobile number to him and he can come and play for us!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 21, 2008, 08:41:27 AM
Quote from: stpauls on May 20, 2008, 09:18:18 PM
Quote from: sean og on May 20, 2008, 07:59:26 PM
Rumour has it that p loughran is transfering to
ballyholland or burren?

if he is that desperate to get out of clady, can someone pass on my mobile number to him and he can come and play for us!!!  ;D

does anyone know the story here?  Is it just that he was refused the transfer to Dromintee and now clady don't want him or was there a fall out or what?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on May 21, 2008, 09:11:51 AM
He's still playing for Clady at the minute any way
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 21, 2008, 09:26:05 AM
Well I don't think he can be accused of glory hunting if he's looking to go to dromintee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on May 21, 2008, 11:25:35 AM
diesal  smuggler why is the cruppen game off on sunday, also is the u21 game definitely on thursday(  have to arra nge for celtic game to be taped)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on May 21, 2008, 12:28:11 PM
Quote from: stpauls on May 20, 2008, 09:18:18 PM
Quote from: sean og on May 20, 2008, 07:59:26 PM
Rumour has it that p loughran is transfering to
ballyholland or burren?

if he is that desperate to get out of clady, can someone pass on my mobile number to him and he can come and play for us!!!  ;D

Why would anyone want someone like that who jumps ship to try and win something with a better team.  He isnt even much of a player just very big and sure he cost Clady any chance they had in the junior last year when he stasrted acting like a spoilt child and got sent of.  Prima Donna and for no reason I can see. Everyone should stay well clear of this glory hunter.

Clady are a small team playing div4 who are never going to achieve much but they coached him at underage and brought him through and now he pulls this sort of shit.

Not that it really matters or anything but the lad isnt the prettiest either. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stevie Nicks on May 21, 2008, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on May 20, 2008, 09:14:40 PM
looks like burren

That would leave Burren with an all Armagh Midfield as Anthony Cunningham is already there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on May 21, 2008, 02:22:41 PM
Great win for the Harps against Dromintee, I am delighted to see that the Harps are on the upswing and I really enjoy the reports on Armagh football, especially the Harps reports, thanks Benny/Rufus.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Against the Breeze on May 21, 2008, 02:25:44 PM
Quote from: naka on May 21, 2008, 11:25:35 AM
diesal  smuggler why is the cruppen game off on sunday, also is the u21 game definitely on thursday(  have to arra nge for celtic game to be taped)

Naka I am guessig it is because Armagh play London in te Hurling Championship on Sunday and half or more of the Keady team are also on the county hurling team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 21, 2008, 02:43:15 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on May 21, 2008, 12:28:11 PM
Quote from: stpauls on May 20, 2008, 09:18:18 PM
Quote from: sean og on May 20, 2008, 07:59:26 PM
Rumour has it that p loughran is transfering to
ballyholland or burren?

if he is that desperate to get out of clady, can someone pass on my mobile number to him and he can come and play for us!!!  ;D

Why would anyone want someone like that who jumps ship to try and win something with a better team.  He isnt even much of a player just very big and sure he cost Clady any chance they had in the junior last year when he stasrted acting like a spoilt child and got sent of.  Prima Donna and for no reason I can see. Everyone should stay well clear of this glory hunter.

Clady are a small team playing div4 who are never going to achieve much but they coached him at underage and brought him through and now he pulls this sort of shit.

Not that it really matters or anything but the lad isnt the prettiest either. 



I can't understand why any club would refuse one of their players a transfer. From what I hear the Clady committee voted unaminously to refuse his transfer request. Surely if a player made it perfectly clear they didn't want to play for your club you'd want them out the door as fast as possible? Leads me to believe they only refused it out of spite.

I am not for a minute advocating that it is right for good footballers to leave low standing clubs but I would like you to consider this interesting point...

Lets turn the situation on its head. Philip Loughran obviously believes he is too good to be playing in Division 4 and wants to play for Dromintee in Division 1 where he clearly feels he would be better suited. What if a very peripheral Dromintee player believed that he was not good enough to be playing in Division 1 and felt he would be better suited to a Division 3 or 4 side. Would any questions be asked if this player tried to transfer in the opposite direction?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rav67 on May 21, 2008, 03:17:52 PM
I think you're angling for a move doire
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 21, 2008, 03:35:28 PM
Shit, my secrets out!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on May 21, 2008, 03:56:41 PM
"against the breeze"
noted thanks forgot about the hurlers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: joebloggs on May 21, 2008, 06:21:04 PM
Someone said that he is moving becuase he has been told that he wont get playing for Armagh unless he was playing at a higher level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on May 21, 2008, 06:49:19 PM
Quote from: joebloggs on May 21, 2008, 06:21:04 PM
Someone said that he is moving becuase he has been told that he wont get playing for Armagh unless he was playing at a higher level.

Thats about the height of it and nobody can blame him for that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 21, 2008, 06:58:36 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 21, 2008, 06:49:19 PM
Quote from: joebloggs on May 21, 2008, 06:21:04 PM
Someone said that he is moving becuase he has been told that he wont get playing for Armagh unless he was playing at a higher level.

Thats about the height of it and nobody can blame him for that.

I'd say that's the case.  I am not being smart arsed here by saying this nad I don't know the reason why he chose Dromintee to transfer to, but i'd suggest that he didn't look to go to Cross as he would not be guaranteed to play.  He would automatically be behind David Mckenna and I presume that Tony Mac will be there and I rate both of the higher than Loughran.

What's the bets he moves to a Down club and returns to Dromintee in a few seasons.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 21, 2008, 07:06:40 PM
Think the fact that he has moved to and is working in Newry area may be a factor in him looking a move. Would imagine this along with the fact that he maybe feels he doesnt have too many more years of senior football left, and feels he needs to make the move, to a club in that area at a higher level of football.

Agree if the lad wants to go then Clady should let him go. Am sure its a decision he hasnt taken lightly. Equally as i mentioned earlier i think Drumintee committee  are to be applauded for taking the decison they did and the reasons for it! Easy answer would have been to approve proposed transfer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 21, 2008, 09:05:21 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 21, 2008, 06:58:36 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 21, 2008, 06:49:19 PM
Quote from: joebloggs on May 21, 2008, 06:21:04 PM
Someone said that he is moving becuase he has been told that he wont get playing for Armagh unless he was playing at a higher level.

Thats about the height of it and nobody can blame him for that.

I'd say that's the case.  I am not being smart arsed here by saying this nad I don't know the reason why he chose Dromintee to transfer to, but i'd suggest that he didn't look to go to Cross as he would not be guaranteed to play.  He would automatically be behind David Mckenna and I presume that Tony Mac will be there and I rate both of the higher than Loughran.

What's the bets he moves to a Down club and returns to Dromintee in a few seasons.

There's more chance of Oisin McConville finishing out his career playing for Dromintee B team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 21, 2008, 11:07:13 PM
Maybe not Dromintee but perhaps Carrickcruppen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 21, 2008, 11:09:43 PM
Quote from: joebloggs on May 21, 2008, 06:21:04 PM
Someone said that he is moving becuase he has been told that he wont get playing for Armagh unless he was playing at a higher level.

Thats a ridiculous statement and i could never imagine an Armagh county manager would say that to any player...Philly Loughran has been a regular for Armagh (Panel) for the last 5/6 years, surely at this stage of his career he is not being dropped from the county squad for playing for Clady ??? Any reason he has been dropped is because he has just gone backwards.  In 2003 i thought that he would be a star for the future years, but it was just the case that he peaked then...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 21, 2008, 11:47:05 PM
he wouldnt get on for us bc!

i seen him play for clady about a month ago against forkhill and a minor player never gave him a sniff of it!

he made the armagh panel on the back of good performances for uuj a long time ago and never been playing constantly at a level worth talking about, he is living in newry now and from what i am led to believe he had no intention of leaving clady until he was approached by cathal o'rourke about transferring to dromintee. would have imagined this sort of thing would have been sanctioned by the committee of dromintee before o'rourke had asked however this was not to be the case.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 21, 2008, 11:53:59 PM
couldn't agree more real. I think he is a pre madonna. He has been dropped from the county panel because he has failed to perform over the last two or three years. Instead of knuckling down, doing the hard work and training to get himself in the best shape he can be in he is looking for excuses and blaiming his club for his failure to perform. Did he think if he went to Dromintee then everything would be rosy in the garden again.

As someone said a few pages back his club got him to the level he was at through underage work. He won an All Ireland with the county that most lads would give a testicle for and he has turned his back on the club that gave him this opportunity. Shame him for his inability to realize his own failings and glory hunting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 22, 2008, 09:52:34 AM
Give the lad a break ffs.

Nice lad and maybe his circumstances has changed and he feels moving to a new club might help him regain the form that made him an all ireland winner

"Whatever it takes"  is a key phrase armagh have use over the years maybe philly feels that this is whats needed to get back to his best
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 22, 2008, 10:22:00 AM
Just a bit notice about the match on Saturday for anybody that's interested....

The Official Opening of the New Complex at St Patrick's GFC Cullyhanna will take place on Saturday 24th May 2008.

Details of which are as follows:-

1.30pm
Minor Football Challenge – St Patrick's (Armagh) v Ballyboden St Enda's (Dublin)

3.30pm
Official Opening Ceremony by GAA Director General, Paraic Duffy

4.00pm
Senior Football Challenge – Armagh v Dublin

Parking
Supervised parking will be available at St Patrick's Church and St Patrick's Primary School – both within walking distance of club.
Only Official Cars with passes will be allowed into the club grounds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 22, 2008, 10:49:29 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on May 21, 2008, 11:47:05 PM
he wouldnt get on for us bc!

i seen him play for clady about a month ago against forkhill and a minor player never gave him a sniff of it!

he made the armagh panel on the back of good performances for uuj a long time ago and never been playing constantly at a level worth talking about, he is living in newry now and from what i am led to believe he had no intention of leaving clady until he was approached by cathal o'rourke about transferring to dromintee. would have imagined this sort of thing would have been sanctioned by the committee of dromintee before o'rourke had asked however this was not to be the case.



You've been led to believe a whole pile of bullshit then.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 22, 2008, 10:51:23 AM

Jaysus, very harsh and personal stuff on loughran when noone actually seems to know anything about the circumstances.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 22, 2008, 04:40:36 PM
Fair speak uladh. I am perhaps as guilty as most for surmising the circumstances around the issue.


Umgoolar; you are quoting armagh phrases there. But heres an even better one "you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear" I will leave you to interpret that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 22, 2008, 05:04:44 PM
Win:  i have never heard an armagh footballer talk about silk, ears and sows

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 22, 2008, 07:18:42 PM
well if you want to be childish then who mentioned any armagh footballers???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 22, 2008, 09:21:46 PM
Under 21
Cruppen beat Cross by a point
Good game

We might have snatched a draw at the end but what looked like a free not given
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on May 22, 2008, 09:46:03 PM
jimmy mckee worst referee in county couldn control the game at all ......... gave cruppen nothing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: eire on May 22, 2008, 10:17:04 PM
Any word on the under 21 quarter final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on May 22, 2008, 10:43:21 PM
vry good gme in bridge betwen crupen and cross.
cross must av hit 5 wides al frm scorable angles in 1st 15min.crupen in charge frm then on wit m feris cleaning out mckena.the othr cruppen midfielder scored a goal aftr runin 40 yrds wit ball.cross midfield v poor in 1st half-wernt fit to keep up wit 2 crupen boys.crupen winin by bout 5pts at hlf time.
cross plyed beter in 2nd hlf n althugh crupen went 7 pts up cros came back wit mc kena n p mckeown playin wel.cros got it bck to 1 point n mckena went down on the 14 yrd line tryin to win a free to drw it.mckee didnt fal 4 it n mckena went mental.mc kee gave him a str8 red 4 verbals(does dat put him out of county?).frm kik out mckee gave free 2 crupen 4 nothin.game over.few oul boys frm cros wnt out 2 give mckee shit aftr gme,tho dnt tink this wil help mckena.
crupen didnt mis as much tho tink draw mite av been beter result
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 22, 2008, 10:47:37 PM
Dromintee beat Granemore by a point. Dramatic finish apparently, scored a goal with the last kick of the game to win it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: eire on May 23, 2008, 09:09:02 AM
when is the semi final of the under 21's being played between madden and dromintee?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 23, 2008, 10:09:41 AM
Quotemc kee gave him a str8 red 4 verbals(does dat put him out of county?).

No.
The Rule is as below:-
Verbal Abuse
Minimum: 4 weeks Suspension in the same Code and at the same Level, inclusive of the next Game in the same Competition of that
Competition Year, even if that Game falls outside the Suspension time period.

Therefore he can play for any team except a club team.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on May 23, 2008, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: altovito on May 22, 2008, 10:43:21 PM
vry good gme in bridge betwen crupen and cross.
cross must av hit 5 wides al frm scorable angles in 1st 15min.crupen in charge frm then on wit m feris cleaning out mckena.the othr cruppen midfielder scored a goal aftr runin 40 yrds wit ball.cross midfield v poor in 1st half-wernt fit to keep up wit 2 crupen boys.crupen winin by bout 5pts at hlf time.
cross plyed beter in 2nd hlf n althugh crupen went 7 pts up cros came back wit mc kena n p mckeown playin wel.cros got it bck to 1 point n mckena went down on the 14 yrd line tryin to win a free to drw it.mckee didnt fal 4 it n mckena went mental.mc kee gave him a str8 red 4 verbals(does dat put him out of county?).frm kik out mckee gave free 2 crupen 4 nothin.game over.few oul boys frm cros wnt out 2 give mckee shit aftr gme,tho dnt tink this wil help mckena.
crupen didnt mis as much tho tink draw mite av been beter result

thanks for the post on the match. it helps me keep up to date on the armagh football while i´m away.

but jesus it was hard to read that oul text speak!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 23, 2008, 12:57:20 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on May 21, 2008, 11:47:05 PM
he wouldnt get on for us bc!




HHAHAHAHAH, unreal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 23, 2008, 01:00:21 PM
Just to back up on Uladh's point, myself and DnR would know the full story and alot of what has been said on here is bullshit.

Granemore lost to Dromintee by a point. Ronin McCoy goal with the last kick won it. Anyone know anything about Madden?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: eire on May 23, 2008, 01:08:09 PM
dont know much about dromintee or madden but cruppen are bound to be favourites now are they not
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 23, 2008, 01:17:31 PM
Big favourites surely.
Dromintee have done well to get here but have rode their luck a bit,. Maghery missed a last minute penalty to draw with them and then last night's goal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 23, 2008, 03:06:21 PM
Am told Hughes in camlough are refusing to take anymore bets on Cruppen for the u21 championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 23, 2008, 03:55:15 PM
Exile is that suspension only dished out for verbal abuse or does this apply to striking aswell??

Reason i ask is  because we had a lad sent off in the u-21 championship for verbal abuse of my friend quigley and he hasn't been able to play for our seniors since.

Doire you are a lucky lad if you can even get betting on the gaelic club games. In Lurgan the bookies are tight as and will ony give betting for the senior championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: upthecrups on May 23, 2008, 04:04:19 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 23, 2008, 03:06:21 PM
Am told Hughes in camlough are refusing to take anymore bets on Cruppen for the u21 championship.

Thats probably becasue Hughes in Camlough is a supermarket u numpty!!  :o :o
As far as i know Boyles in camlough don't think bets on any GAA regarding local sides.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 23, 2008, 04:47:31 PM
Apologies!  :-[ must be Boyles then.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 23, 2008, 05:17:11 PM
doire is that just like i was told about cathal o'rourke asking philly loughran to transfer to dromintee
????? ;) :D ;) ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 23, 2008, 07:00:10 PM
QuoteThats probably becasue Hughes in Camlough is a supermarket u numpty!!

Ha ha, ripped out!!

Anyone have any odds for the u21 championship? Wouldnt mind a wee bet if I could get odds, just do it in my own work...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 23, 2008, 07:36:41 PM
Ripon like the racecourse!

Diesel-smuggler you are without doubt the biggest bullshitter on this board.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 23, 2008, 09:03:00 PM
doire have you done any revision at all? you're very angry these days!

corn did you tell me you put a lot of money on cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 23, 2008, 09:19:43 PM
Yes Loney  lump on Cross.  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 23, 2008, 09:48:37 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 23, 2008, 09:19:43 PM
Yes Loney  lump on Cross.  :D

aye dead certs..

cruppen beat dromintee in the u16 championship tonight by a few points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 24, 2008, 05:34:36 PM
qub i thought it was by a couple of points! haha

how am i a bull-shitter? members from dromintee club told me about cathal o'rourke and the word they used was 'tortured' philly loughran when he finally gave in to him them the dromintee committee refused to pursue it!

any reports from cullyhanna how the game went?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 24, 2008, 05:47:59 PM
I left just before the final whistle
Dublin were leading by a point 0-05 to 0-04
Probably finished that way.
Very poor game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 24, 2008, 07:33:16 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on May 24, 2008, 05:34:36 PM
qub i thought it was by a couple of points! haha

how am i a bull-shitter? members from dromintee club told me about cathal o'rourke and the word they used was 'tortured' philly loughran when he finally gave in to him them the dromintee committee refused to pursue it!

any reports from cullyhanna how the game went?

Who were these members? Name names then. But you won't because your talking absolute shite, its all that comes out of your mouth.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 24, 2008, 11:04:37 PM
so doire are you trying to tell me that philly loughran went to dromintee himself and asked could he transfer to them because he is living in newry and wants to play at a higher level???

there are 5 clubs nearer to him than dromintee who play a higher level than clady why did he not go to them?

maybe he was trying to get the same site on carrickbroad that oliver gaughran was building a house on at the time of his transfer! haha
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 24, 2008, 11:08:05 PM
Clearly shying away from my question of who actually were these members who told you this? You have no answer because you made it up.

He has no connection to any club in South Armagh so obviously he looked at the clubs close to Newry and decided Dromintee would be best for him. I don't see how that is so hard for you to understand. Dromintee is 10 minutes from Newry and are playing at the highest level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on May 25, 2008, 08:05:03 AM
killeavy is about 6 minutes away then and as far as im aware play in division 1 of the armagh all-county league. oh yeah! the same league that dromintee are in!

saval and ballyholland play in division 1 of the down league and are also closer to him than dromintee!

im not naming those two persons names on here but you would have to agree that is why the row escalated in the first place after cathal o'rourke had approached philly!

im not going to comment anymore on this matter as i feel i have said enough
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 25, 2008, 11:05:57 AM
Obviously he didn't want to go to Down football, so that leaves a choice between us and Killeavy? He clearly felt he would rather play for us, with no disrespect to Killeavy I'm sure.

I would NOT have to agree that thats why any row started. You know nothing about my club. You're nothing but a gossip merchant with nothing important to do but spout drivel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 25, 2008, 11:36:10 AM
Is there an extraordinary meeting on Tuesday night in Dromintee doire?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 25, 2008, 12:28:27 PM
Went to the Armagh Dublin game yest and it was a dissapointing affair....but teams played in 1st gear..

Couple of things to note though;

1.Even though Enda didn play, lads he has lost about two stone and looks in a lot better shape.
2.Very impressed with Andy Mallons return.
3.Nippy swift was easily man of match...really impressed when he went out to midfield.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pedro on May 25, 2008, 12:37:16 PM
What sort of teams did both teams have out Real1995? Was going to tip up but the woman had other ideas!  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 25, 2008, 01:14:17 PM
Quote from: full back on May 25, 2008, 11:36:10 AM
Is there an extraordinary meeting on Tuesday night in Dromintee doire?


Theres an AGM, just a rubber-stamping excercise to clarify some positions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 25, 2008, 01:59:37 PM
QuoteWent to the Armagh Dublin game yest and it was a dissapointing affair....but teams played in 1st gear..

Couple of things to note though;

1.Even though Enda didn play, lads he has lost about two stone and looks in a lot better shape.
2.Very impressed with Andy Mallons return.
3.Nippy swift was easily man of match...really impressed when he went out to midfield.

Shocking poor match. They'd go harder than that in training (at least I hope they do). Good to see the club looking so well though. I'd assume that's the back line that'll start against Cavan assuming DOnaghy isn't back from injury. Andy Mallon played well as you point out. By the time I got to watch the game Charlie Vernon had been taken off with an injury so let's hope that's not to serious. Brian Mallon also got a nice point, hopefully he's in line for a start against Cavan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 25, 2008, 03:30:42 PM
An Portmor 1-8 Sarsfields 0-11

Great game. ref against us from the start. We had to play with fourteen men for 35 minutes. Full Forward sent off for a push, wind was very big factor. Also Sarsfields missed penalty in first attack of second half.

Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: go4goal on May 25, 2008, 03:41:10 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on May 25, 2008, 03:30:42 PM
An Portmor 1-8 Sarsfields 0-11

Great game. ref against us from the start. We had to play with ten men for 35 minutes. Full Forward sent off for a push, wind was very big factor. Also Sarsfields missed penalty in first attack of second half.

Any other results?



Who were the other 4 sent off?? ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 25, 2008, 03:43:11 PM
Harps beat Maghery 1-12 to 1-11, good result considering we fielded without Nippy, Vernon, Collie Holmes, Kevin Kelly, Willie McSorley and Joe Quigley.

Nippy has torn ligaments or something in his thumb/wrist.  Vernon has damaged his foot(from a foot block in yesterday's game) and was limping today.  dont know how serious both injuries are.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 25, 2008, 04:00:09 PM
Cross beat Killeavy 2-19 to 1-12

Some great scores from both teams

Referee K Mc Niece was very good.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on May 25, 2008, 04:45:02 PM
Heard Wcross won their game by five!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 25, 2008, 05:13:01 PM
Ogs beat Dromintee by two. Wind played big factor. Ogs took goals well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 25, 2008, 06:04:50 PM
'Bridge beat Granemore by 4. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 25, 2008, 06:37:00 PM
Pedro the team that started was;
McKinney
AMallon Bellew Finn Mo
Aaron A O'R McKeever
Titch Vernon
M O'R B Mallon  Stephen Kernan
Oisin Nippy L O'Hare

A few cullyhanna lads got a run in second half so did Hearty, Shannon, P Kernan, P Coutney, Duffy, Forker and a few more.  McGrane, Paddy McKeever, toner, lavery and Tk were not togged out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on May 25, 2008, 07:04:23 PM
any word on how the clans game went?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 25, 2008, 07:14:49 PM
Clans won by 2 points lad. Clans 0-13 mullaghbawn 0-11. Wasn't a great game but two points in the bag well welcome.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on May 25, 2008, 08:15:27 PM
happy days! they all count
anyone stand out?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: eire on May 25, 2008, 09:00:13 PM
as far as i can see there is alot of rubbish being talked about the whole philly loughran and dromintee affair. the issue is dead and buried so can we not leave it at that insted of people spreading rubbish about other clubs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on May 25, 2008, 09:17:24 PM
keady gme of 2day aftr the lads xertions ysterday.
port mor gat a point 2day of srsfields - suprising result
wcross beat b'nab - shocking result
league is tigtning up big tme
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on May 25, 2008, 09:27:01 PM
Quote from: altovito on May 25, 2008, 09:17:24 PM
keady gme of 2day aftr the lads xertions ysterday.
port mor gat a point 2day of srsfields - suprising result
wcross beat b'nab - shocking result
league is tigtning up big tme

your just putting that on now  >:( ::) ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on May 25, 2008, 09:33:35 PM
putin what on buckfst boy?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on May 25, 2008, 09:44:11 PM
can i buy a vowel?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on May 25, 2008, 09:57:57 PM
r u carl fuckin vorderman bukfast boy?
lern txt tk
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Edgeofthesquare on May 25, 2008, 10:13:54 PM
Quote from: altovito on May 25, 2008, 09:17:24 PM
keady gme of 2day aftr the lads xertions ysterday.
port mor gat a point 2day of srsfields - suprising result
wcross beat b'nab - shocking result
league is tigtning up big tme

Why is the B'nab result such a shocking one? Wcross have just had a bad start and unlucky with a few results, but are in no way a bad team! Port mor suprising result away to Sarsfields and they've been playing well at home, atho An Port mor's confidence is prob high after winning last week
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on May 25, 2008, 10:32:09 PM
Quote from: Edgeofthesquare on May 25, 2008, 10:13:54 PM
Quote from: altovito on May 25, 2008, 09:17:24 PM
keady gme of 2day aftr the lads xertions ysterday.
port mor gat a point 2day of srsfields - suprising result
wcross beat b'nab - shocking result
league is tigtning up big tme

Why is the B'nab result such a shocking one? Wcross have just had a bad start and unlucky with a few results, but are in no way a bad team! Port mor suprising result away to Sarsfields and they've been playing well at home, atho An Port mor's confidence is prob high after winning last week

nab shud b beatin w'cross,poor team,nab r a decebt team
portmor r poor team as wel,srsfield cud go up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 25, 2008, 11:03:43 PM
Quote from: pedro on May 25, 2008, 12:37:16 PM
What sort of teams did both teams have out Real1995? Was going to tip up but the woman had other ideas!  ::)

hope you got the ride pedro! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on May 26, 2008, 12:15:28 AM
ACL - Division One (sun 25th May)
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 7 6 1 0 13
Pearse Og 7 5 1 1 11
St Patrick's 7 5 0 2 10
Culloville 6 4 1 1 9
Harps 8 3 2 3 8
Clan na Gael 8 3 2 3 8
Mullaghbawn 7 3 1 3 7
Dromintee 8 2 1 5 5
Killeavey 7 1 0 6 2
Maghery 8 0 1 7 1


Harps scrapped a hard earned 2 points today from a poor maghery team which look certain to drop down. Saying that Harps were minus their 3 county players as stated ealrier. Ultan lennon had a stormer, 1-8 i think he scored. can anyone confirm. cant complain
about the referree, i thought we got a dubious penalty which may have been just outside the sqare. Candyman, wot was the 8 steps about near the end?????? ;D,

Oh, and the Maghery linesman. a complete bollix.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on May 26, 2008, 12:46:17 AM
On the rumour mill thing, i didnt thing a Chairman of a well respected club would resort to starting and stirring a load of rubbish on a issue which is dead and gone. Maybe this is because he didnt want to go to Camlough and play a lower division football or maybe not but it's a sad time all the same when it is brought up again and again and again... Do chairmen not have better things to be at than this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 26, 2008, 07:45:49 AM
Ballyhegan were beat by 4points in the Grange.

It's the lowest I've seen the Davitts in about 10 years! - Shocking!  :'(

Horrible game, with Grange fully deserved of their victory.

Young referee had a mare, gave the Grange countless free's in the first half (where the gained most of their scores) then decided to even things up near the end of the second half by giving Ballyhegan a few 'dodgy' decisions. At this stage Davitts needed a goal, so they didn't count unfortunately!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 26, 2008, 08:23:02 AM
Quote from: fcuksake on May 26, 2008, 12:15:28 AM
ACL - Division One (sun 25th May)
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 7 6 1 0 13
Pearse Og 7 5 1 1 11
St Patrick's 7 5 0 2 10
Culloville 6 4 1 1 9
Harps 8 3 2 3 8
Clan na Gael 8 3 2 3 8
Mullaghbawn 7 3 1 3 7
Dromintee 8 2 1 5 5
Killeavey 7 1 0 6 2
Maghery 8 0 1 7 1


Harps scrapped a hard earned 2 points today from a poor maghery team which look certain to drop down. Saying that Harps were minus their 3 county players as stated ealrier. Ultan lennon had a stormer, 1-8 i think he scored. can anyone confirm. cant complain
about the referree, i thought we got a dubious penalty which may have been just outside the sqare. Candyman, wot was the 8 steps about near the end?????? ;D, Oh, and the Maghery linesman. a complete bollix.

The ref gave the free for charging ye C*NT!!!  ;) :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on May 26, 2008, 08:55:39 AM
dont get upset Candyman...I'm on your side. I'm not criticising you or the teams effort , I was merely passing a comment.

Well done to all 17 players yesterday. Harpo had a good game when introduced and Gary McKinneys effort out on the left was superb, but young lennon stoll the show. Onwards and Upwards. 2 points next week against our esteemed friends is not to be suffed at. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 26, 2008, 09:20:29 AM
Quote from: fcuksake on May 26, 2008, 08:55:39 AM
dont get upset Candyman...I'm on your side. I'm not criticising you or the teams effort , I was merely passing a comment.

Well done to all 17 players yesterday. Harpo had a good game when introduced and Gary McKinneys effort out on the left was superb, but young lennon stoll the show. Onwards and Upwards. 2 points next week against our esteemed friends is not to be suffed at. ;D
Im not... :-*
Hopefully with Kelly back next week him and Bones (Ultan) should be a good strike force up front!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on May 26, 2008, 10:55:51 AM
Where is next weeks game @ Abbey or over at the council pitch.? :D

We needed them 2 wins on the bounce to pull away from the relegation zone. We played well yesterday with a depleted side and its great to see another scoring forward emerge through the ranks. Also thought the morrisions tried hard yesterday along with Philip McKinney and Mini.

Cant see killeavey or Maghery staying up. They both have an uphill battle. they would need to win 5/6 games out of their last 9/10 games to have any chance of survival.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 26, 2008, 11:06:29 AM
Its at the Piggery...  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 26, 2008, 12:12:50 PM
No one really stood out in the clans game lurganblue. All i all it was dead from start to finish. Mullaghbawn could have snatched a late goal which would have levelled it only for them to hit the post, then from the rebound the crossbar and over. But for once we didn't conceed that late goal that has plagued us so many times and we hung on. Think we just shaded the game though in all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 26, 2008, 01:40:13 PM
does anyone know where the semi final of the u21 championship is being played in?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 26, 2008, 01:54:53 PM
No venue as of yet, think it is fixed for next week. What sort of team are Maghery?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 26, 2008, 02:07:42 PM
Any truth in the rumour that Titch pushed the ref after the Cruppen match and it was just not verbals. If true it surprise me as he seems a calm and quiet player on the field.

A few Ogs ones were saying yesterday that alot of the Cross fans did not cover themselves in glory either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 26, 2008, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 26, 2008, 01:54:53 PM
No venue as of yet, think it is fixed for next week. What sort of team are Maghery?

Don't you mean Madden?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 26, 2008, 02:23:04 PM
Good spot, testing there so I was.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 26, 2008, 02:46:02 PM
ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Tir na nÓg 8 6 0 2 12
Sarsfields 8 5 1 2 11
St Michael's 7 5 0 2 10
Clann Eireann 7 4 0 3 8
Granemore 7 4 0 3 8
Silverbridge 8 4 0 4 8
Carrickcruppen 7 3 1 3 7
Ballymacnab 8 3 1 4 7
Wolfe Tones 7 3 0 4 6
An Port Mor 8 2 1 5 5
Whitecross 8 2 0 6 4
Keady 5 1 0 4 2


very tight league now. Promotion seem to be between top 3, although wouldn't rule anything out in this league. Wolfe tones and ballymacnab will be looking over their shoulders. Keady will have alot of pressure on them to win thier games in hand. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on May 26, 2008, 02:48:52 PM
That money the tones are paying ther manager must not be doing much good!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: eire on May 26, 2008, 02:51:17 PM
i heard that the semi final of the under 21 match is on wed night in cullyhanna at 7.30.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 26, 2008, 02:53:02 PM
This wednesday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 26, 2008, 02:57:26 PM
It is this Wednesday. Dorsey a bit unfair for Madden?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: celtic on May 26, 2008, 03:00:54 PM
i heard the same. semi final between madden and dromintee is on in cullyhanna this wed at 7.30. what would by the expected outcome from that game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 26, 2008, 03:06:01 PM
No idea  we are quite strong but no one seems to know what Madden are like.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on May 26, 2008, 03:16:28 PM
Quote from: altovito on May 25, 2008, 09:57:57 PM
r u carl fuckin vorderman bukfast boy?
lern txt tk

i wouldnt mind fuckin vorderman tbh  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: celtic on May 26, 2008, 03:21:11 PM
i take it your a dromintee man then. i was on the orchard county site and someone predicted for shanes to beat dromintee in the first round.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 26, 2008, 03:23:39 PM
i am indeed. They got it close against Shanes, Maghery and Granemore so they are no World beaters but not a bad outfit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 26, 2008, 06:40:51 PM
Charlie Vernon has emerged as a major doubt for Armagh's Ulster SFC quarter-final against Cavan next month after he suffered a foot injury in a weekend challenge against Dublin at Cullyhanna.

The rising star suffered damage to his toes following a challenge from Dublin midfielder Eamonn Fennell as both players went for a low ball in the low-key challenge on Saturday, which the visitors won by 0-7 to 0-5.

Vernon is awaiting results of a scan amid fears that he may have broken at least one metatarsal bone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 26, 2008, 07:49:52 PM
madde n got 2 minor semi 3 years ago think they handy enough.joe feeney is still eligable for them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ric flair on May 26, 2008, 08:17:01 PM
madden u 21 nt bad outfit.............. gud strng midfild and feeney pullin the strings in the forwards....... wud say theyll still come up short tho dromintee beat sum gud opposition to get here
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: che 08 on May 26, 2008, 08:50:44 PM
Quote from: celtic on May 26, 2008, 03:00:54 PM
i heard the same. semi final between madden and dromintee is on in cullyhanna this wed at 7.30. what would by the expected outcome from that game?
id say dromintee should beat madden they had a lot tougher games during the way if they can get to grips with joe feeney id say it should be a cruppen and dromintee final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 26, 2008, 08:52:45 PM
And what would you think would be the outcome of that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 26, 2008, 09:10:24 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on May 26, 2008, 06:40:51 PM
Charlie Vernon has emerged as a major doubt for Armagh's Ulster SFC quarter-final against Cavan next month after he suffered a foot injury in a weekend challenge against Dublin at Cullyhanna.

The rising star suffered damage to his toes following a challenge from Dublin midfielder Eamonn Fennell as both players went for a low ball in the low-key challenge on Saturday, which the visitors won by 0-7 to 0-5.

Vernon is awaiting results of a scan amid fears that he may have broken at least one metatarsal bone.
Heard tonight there, nothing broke, just bad bruising.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: che 08 on May 26, 2008, 09:15:55 PM
as a dromintee man id have to say dromintee having said that cruppen are a good side with alot of good players with the likes of martin ferris and james hughes on the other hand dromintee has had alot of injurys and were not the team we could be with the likes of p.rock and john molloy out with cruciate damage not to mention k dyas. but its one match at a time so madden first then well set are eyes on crupen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: say nothin on May 26, 2008, 11:52:00 PM
any of yous know what time the Ogs V Harps game is at on Sunday?

Harps have picked up a few wins in the last 2 weeks. By all accounts Vernon will be out for a few weeks. Holmes also got injured on Sunday morning . I dont know how bad Nippys injury is, but with Joe quigley also out thats nearly the spine of our team wiped out.

anyway, in the words of AUDi...'keep them torning  '...

Good luck on Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laceer on May 27, 2008, 12:29:54 AM
Quote from: say nothin on May 26, 2008, 11:52:00 PM
any of yous know what time the Ogs V Harps game is at on Sunday?

Harps have picked up a few wins in the last 2 weeks. By all accounts Vernon will be out for a few weeks. Holmes also got injured on Sunday morning . I dont know how bad Nippys injury is, but with Joe quigley also out thats nearly the spine of our team wiped out.

anyway, in the words of AUDi...'keep them torning  '...

Good luck on Sunday.

is that the bold Audi Hamilton you speak off...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: say nothin on May 27, 2008, 08:12:11 AM
that would be correct
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 27, 2008, 08:49:41 AM
Dromintee notes this week said tommorrow's match is in the Bridge, I heard Cullyhanna. Anyone got the official fixtures?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on May 27, 2008, 10:52:35 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 1 JUNE 2008


Wednesday 28 May

Under-21 Football Championship Semi-Final (7.30)
Dromintee v Madden (Barney Henry) at Cullyhanna
Extra time, if required

ACL – Division One (7.30)
Culloville v St Patrick's (Kevin Murtagh)

ACL – Division Two (7.30)
Whitecross v Clann Eireann (Patrick Duffy)
Carrickcruppen v Keady (Dessie McDonnell)


Friday 30 May

ACL – Division Two (7.30)
Wolfe Tones v St Michael's (Ger Devlin)

ACL – Division Three (7.30)
Tullysaran v Clonmore (Jimmy McKee)

ACL – Division Four (7.30)
Middletown v Derrynoose (Paudie Hughes)


Sunday 1 June

ACL – Division One (2.00)
Maghery v St Patrick's (Jim Lynch)
Culloville v Clan na Gael (Malachy McNicholl)
Mullaghbawn v Crossmaglen (Rory Robinson)
Pearse Og v Harps (Paudie Hughes)
Killeavey v Dromintee (Barney Henry)

ACL – Division Two (2.00)
Keady v Wolfe Tones (Vincent O'Neill)
Carrickcruppen v Granemore (Oliver Hearty)
St Michael's v An Port Mor (Joe Murtagh)
Tir na nÓg v Silverbridge (Frank McDonald)
Sarsfields v Ballymacnab (Kevin Gallogly)

ACL – Division Three (2.00)
Collegeland v St Paul's (Eamon Nugent)
St Peter's v Crossmaglen II (Tony O'Hare)
Madden v Grange (Jim Slevin)
Annaghmore v Tullysaran (Kevin Murtagh)
Belleek v Ballyhegan (Kevin McNeice)
Clonmore v Lissummon (Off)

ACL – Division Four (2.00)
Corrinshego v Mullaghbrack (Paul Boylan)
Shane O'Neill's v Clady (Dessie McDonnell)
Phelim Brady's v Derrynoose (Jim Burns)
O'Hanlon's v Dorsey Emmett's (Mickey Leonard)
Middletown v Eire Og (Stephen Murray)
Bye – Forkhill
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 27, 2008, 12:08:01 PM
Good work High Catch.
How did you manage to get these fixtures and are they official?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on May 27, 2008, 12:18:59 PM
Orchard County Website.

Yes official.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 27, 2008, 03:36:56 PM
Thanks High Ball.
The Orchard County website is usually reliable with its information.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: killeavy abu on May 27, 2008, 05:13:49 PM
Madden are a very good team. And to me were my dark horse after they beat us... Play a 2 man full forward line
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 27, 2008, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: killeavy abu on May 27, 2008, 05:13:49 PM
Madden are a very good team. And to me were my dark horse after they beat us... Play a 2 man full forward line

To me were my dark horse??

WTF?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: killeavy abu on May 27, 2008, 06:45:31 PM
Sorry nial. meant to say there my favourite to beat dromintee and beat cruppen if they get into final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rattle-the-net on May 27, 2008, 07:45:07 PM
id fancy them to beat dromintee but not cruppen...the cross v cruppen game, cruppen played unreal football and made cross look so ordinary and they wer red hot favourites for the title this yr!!!

like even though madden have the 2 man full forward line, cruppen have good enuf defenders to cope with them! madden havent bin tested againest a good side like cruppen!

i jus think cruppen all ova the feild will be to strong for any of the two!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rattle-the-net on May 27, 2008, 07:47:27 PM
also it says in the local paper that the semi is in silverbridge!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 27, 2008, 08:07:54 PM
Quote from: rattle-the-net on May 27, 2008, 07:45:07 PM
id fancy them to beat dromintee but not cruppen...the cross v cruppen game, cruppen played unreal football and made cross look so ordinary and they wer red hot favourites for the title this yr!!!

like even though madden have the 2 man full forward line, cruppen have good enuf defenders to cope with them! madden havent bin tested againest a good side like cruppen!

i jus think cruppen all ova the feild will be to strong for any of the two!

Cruppen man, are we?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 27, 2008, 08:24:59 PM
i think its clear to say cruppen are clear favourites.  they are the defending champions and beat a cross team backboned by p kernan, mckeown, mckenna , hanratty and kyle carragher to name a few.plus dromintee have been known to choke before in u21s...  and madden have little experience at this level of competition
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 27, 2008, 08:32:48 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 27, 2008, 08:24:59 PM
i think its clear to say cruppen are clear favourites.  they are the defending champions and beat a cross team backboned by p kernan, mckeown, mckenna , hanratty and kyle carragher to name a few.plus dromintee have been known to choke before in u21s...  and madden have little experience at this level of competition

carragher wasnt playing charlie, if he was it could have been a different story
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 27, 2008, 08:35:23 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 27, 2008, 08:24:59 PM
i think its clear to say cruppen are clear favourites.  they are the defending champions and beat a cross team backboned by p kernan, mckeown, mckenna , hanratty and kyle carragher to name a few.plus dromintee have been known to choke before in u21s...  and madden have little experience at this level of competition

Obviously we have to get past Madden first which is all we'll be thinking about. But explain?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 27, 2008, 08:43:55 PM
against harps afew years ago at cruppen or was that due to a DUBIOUS call from the umpire..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 27, 2008, 08:50:38 PM
Uh oh!! Trouble brewing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2008, 09:00:38 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 27, 2008, 09:10:24 PM
Lads, is there something wrong with the private messaging tool?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 27, 2008, 09:20:01 PM
Quoteprivate messaging tool?

PINTS?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2008, 10:06:33 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on May 27, 2008, 09:20:01 PM
Quoteprivate messaging tool?

PINTS?
Yes?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: celtic on May 27, 2008, 10:39:16 PM
knowing a few lads from both madden and dromintee, id say dromintee would have the upper hand. i went to watch the granemore and dromintee match and dromintee have a lot of good young minors that no one seems to have heard off. should be good competitive match. some one would need to keep tight to joe feeney. good footballer very impressive in my eyes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rattle-the-net on May 27, 2008, 10:44:44 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 27, 2008, 08:07:54 PM
Quote from: rattle-the-net on May 27, 2008, 07:45:07 PM
id fancy them to beat dromintee but not cruppen...the cross v cruppen game, cruppen played unreal football and made cross look so ordinary and they wer red hot favourites for the title this yr!!!

like even though madden have the 2 man full forward line, cruppen have good enuf defenders to cope with them! madden havent bin tested againest a good side like cruppen!

i jus think cruppen all ova the feild will be to strong for any of the two!

Cruppen man, are we?


yea i am...this is one of the best teams to come out of cruppen in years... IMO i just cant see dromintee or madden beating them but its always on the day!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 27, 2008, 11:33:45 PM
Was wonderin how long it would take you to create a new username diesel-smuggler.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on May 27, 2008, 11:44:27 PM
trouble!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 27, 2008, 11:49:26 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 27, 2008, 08:43:55 PM
against harps afew years ago at cruppen or was that due to a DUBIOUS call from the umpire..

aye that was a tight one. some say it was a point... some say it wasnt...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on May 28, 2008, 10:28:00 AM
What the predictions for division 1 this week??
Can the county boys play??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 28, 2008, 10:32:56 AM
Don't think the county boys can play this week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 28, 2008, 10:46:20 AM

I thought county players couldn't be pulled up to 13 days before a championship game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 28, 2008, 10:49:43 AM
Predictions.....

SUnday 1st June 2008
ACL – Division One (2.00)

Maghery v St Patrick's          St pats
Culloville v Clan na Gael         Culloville
Mullaghbawn v Crossmaglen  Cross
Pearse Og v Harps                ;)
Killeavey v Dromintee           Dromintee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on May 28, 2008, 10:51:32 AM
i thought myself uladh and training camps are meant to be during the 13days.

dromintee to win
ogs/harps draw
cross to win
cullavile to win
maghery to win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on May 28, 2008, 11:48:38 AM
Maghery v St Patrick's          St pats
Culloville v Clan na Gael         Cllans
Mullaghbawn v Crossmaglen  Cross
Pearse Og v Harps                Ogs
Killeavey v Dromintee            Dromintee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 28, 2008, 01:23:52 PM
St. Pats
Cross
Clans
Killeavy
Ogs to draw
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 28, 2008, 01:50:14 PM
Maghery v St Patrick's          - St pats
Culloville v Clan na Gael         - Culloville
Mullaghbawn v Crossmaglen  - Cross
Pearse Og v Harps               - Ogs  ;D
Killeavey v Dromintee           - Dromintee

That's assuming the county players are available.  If not I coud see Killeavey sneak a win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 28, 2008, 02:16:03 PM
No county boys this week.

So Madden and Dromintee looks like it will be a good match. Interesting tie. Cruppen clear favourites for the title though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: killeavy abu on May 28, 2008, 02:43:48 PM
killeavy v dromintee called off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 28, 2008, 02:44:51 PM
Why abu?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on May 28, 2008, 02:50:15 PM
madden and dromintee will be exicting but the best 15players out of both them teams wouldn't beat cruppen, after beating cross they should have been awarded the trophy.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 28, 2008, 03:01:30 PM
Is it the summer holidays already?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on May 28, 2008, 03:47:39 PM
wat did David Mckenna do to get sent off last week for cross u21s? can anyone tell me?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on May 28, 2008, 04:42:04 PM
Quotewat did David Mckenna do to get sent off last week for cross u21s? can anyone tell me?
Verbal Abuse.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 28, 2008, 05:16:20 PM
Why is the Dromintee game off? Its a little suspicious that the county contingent arent allowed to play and all of a sudden dromintee are calling games off. Seamus Mc Donagh up to his tricks again maybe? Helping his club when they are struggling!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 28, 2008, 05:17:29 PM
Corn,

Must be the Summer holidays

The amout of pricks on the board has doubled in the last week are too
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 28, 2008, 05:42:36 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 28, 2008, 05:16:20 PM
Why is the Dromintee game off? Its a little suspicious that the county contingent arent allowed to play and all of a sudden dromintee are calling games off. Seamus Mc Donagh up to his tricks again maybe? Helping his club when they are struggling!! ;)
Dromintee never called the game off, by that theory wel be calling every game off until armagh are out of the championship? When has s.McDonagh ever done Dromintee any favours?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on May 28, 2008, 05:48:00 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on May 28, 2008, 05:17:29 PM
Corn,

Must be the Summer holidays

The amout of pricks on the board has doubled in the last week are too

???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 28, 2008, 06:06:53 PM
There is always someone lurking to rip you out. ;)

Doire if Dromintee didn't call it off could you provide the reason why Killeavy did??? Just as a matter of interest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 28, 2008, 06:08:40 PM
I actually don't know, I've only found out recently myself. Its possible that Killeavy didn't call it off either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 28, 2008, 07:33:44 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 27, 2008, 11:49:26 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 27, 2008, 08:43:55 PM
against harps afew years ago at cruppen or was that due to a DUBIOUS call from the umpire..

aye that was a tight one. some say it was a point... some say it wasnt...
standing directly behind it qub defo a point from a neutral who if anything would have been more in favour of a dromintee win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 28, 2008, 09:26:06 PM
Division 1

Culloville beat St Pats by a point..1-08 to 0-10 (i think)

Goal scored by Kieran Hatzer in second half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on May 28, 2008, 09:36:08 PM
Culloville are doing pretty well, for a place with about one fifth of a parish to pick from. Not having any county players probably helps keep the Div 1 status going.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: killeavy abu on May 28, 2008, 09:55:08 PM
madden beat dromintee by 8 points i think. good game. both teams doin well... dromintee wanted the game played sat nite which didnt suit killeavy. Thats all im sayin
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 28, 2008, 09:59:04 PM
Quote from: killeavy abu on May 28, 2008, 09:55:08 PM
madden beat dromintee by 8 points i think. good game. both teams doin well... dromintee wanted the game played sat nite which didnt suit killeavy. Thats all im sayin

Oh well were very grateful that you graced this thread with your exclusive inside knowledge but wouldn't want you to take any liberties by divulging anymore of that classified information you have! ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: killeavy abu on May 28, 2008, 10:06:03 PM
Your right i wouldnt say anymore. where ya from yourself kid. u a dromintee man
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 28, 2008, 10:10:13 PM
Kid? I'm 58.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on May 28, 2008, 10:14:24 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 28, 2008, 10:10:13 PM
Kid? I'm 58.

Pity you wouldn't act it :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 28, 2008, 10:16:06 PM
oh excellent! where did you buy that joke? the joke shop?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 28, 2008, 10:54:57 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 28, 2008, 07:33:44 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 27, 2008, 11:49:26 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 27, 2008, 08:43:55 PM
against harps afew years ago at cruppen or was that due to a DUBIOUS call from the umpire..

aye that was a tight one. some say it was a point... some say it wasnt...
standing directly behind it qub defo a point from a neutral who if anything would have been more in favour of a dromintee win

thought the umpire would have been of the same opinion. the debate still goes on around the shaws. the same umpire got plenty of cheap drink in a bar in belfast where a well known harps man was workin...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 28, 2008, 11:48:59 PM
Madden had a fantastic win tonight in a great game played in cullyhanna. a brilliant start by madden lead to an 8 point win. dromintee played well but just wernt good enough tonight.

Good Luck to Madden in the final against Carrickcruppen which im told is supposely next wednesday, need confirmation though!

Final Score
Madden 0-18 Dromintee 1-07
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 29, 2008, 12:45:55 AM
The madden men are on the charge again. It is fantastic to see smaller clubs getting some reward because they put in as much work as the bigger clubs and are rarely recognised unless the actually reach major finals. The majority of cases this is impossible. Well done madden i hope you go on and win it. I went to uni with a guy from madden and he was a sound lad aswell, get into the cruppen ites. ;) :D


So the haze continues to linger over why this Dromintee game was called off. Surely killeavy kid  ;) if You didn't want it played on saturday (which you say Dromintee ask for) then you could have said no and they would have had to fulfill the fixture or else conceed the points????? I am not getting this at all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 29, 2008, 02:30:20 AM
You went to UNI !!!

" Conceed " the points  :o :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 29, 2008, 08:13:28 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 29, 2008, 12:45:55 AM
The madden men are on the charge again. It is fantastic to see smaller clubs getting some reward because they put in as much work as the bigger clubs and are rarely recognised unless the actually reach major finals. The majority of cases this is impossible. Well done madden i hope you go on and win it. I went to uni with a guy from madden and he was a sound lad aswell, get into the cruppen ites. ;) :D


So the haze continues to linger over why this Dromintee game was called off. Surely killeavy kid  ;) if You didn't want it played on saturday (which you say Dromintee ask for) then you could have said no and they would have had to fulfill the fixture or else conceed the points????? I am not getting this at all.

Exactly? Something not quite right.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 29, 2008, 09:01:33 AM
Madden 0-18 Dromintee 1-7

No complaints, the better team won. Can not fault the Dromintee lads for effort but Madden's shooting was simply superb. 18 points over the hour, the majority from play, and I can only remember about three wides.

Their number seven was brilliant and looks a real talent, does anyone know who he is?

Dromintee had a couple of good performers, including DnR's brother who was very good.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 29, 2008, 09:15:05 AM
And there he was tryn to claim he was 58!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 29, 2008, 09:15:28 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 29, 2008, 09:01:33 AM
Madden 0-18 Dromintee 1-7

No complaints, the better team won. Can not fault the Dromintee lads for effort but Madden's shooting was simply superb. 18 points over the hour, the majority from play, and I can only remember about three wides.

Their number seven was brilliant and looks a real talent, does anyone know who he is?

Dromintee had a couple of good performers, including DnR's brother who was very good.

He says he's 58??? There's defo something not right there......  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on May 29, 2008, 09:32:13 AM
Anyone know who won between keady and cruppin?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 29, 2008, 09:32:55 AM
eh I meant son.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 29, 2008, 09:35:44 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 29, 2008, 09:32:55 AM
eh I meant son.

The plot thickens  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 29, 2008, 09:37:43 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 29, 2008, 09:35:44 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 29, 2008, 09:32:55 AM
eh I meant son.

The plot thickens  :D

Reminds me of an old football chant....  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 29, 2008, 09:51:05 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 29, 2008, 09:35:44 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 29, 2008, 09:32:55 AM
eh I meant son.

The plot thickens  :D

And we thought Austria had it bad...  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 29, 2008, 09:53:12 AM
actually now that I think about it , it is his brother there is just a big age gap.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on May 29, 2008, 11:01:29 AM
Division 2 team plays Division 3 team in under 21 champ final, it shows how much the big clubs care bot dis tournament. with a bit of effort a team like crossmaglen should walk this every year.
Good result for madden last nite, wouldn mind seeing them win it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 29, 2008, 11:10:44 AM
Will you og away and wise up. The two teams are in the final because they deserve to be. What impact would a senior team have on an u21 team? Every team takes it serious.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on May 29, 2008, 11:24:10 AM
they do deserve to be in the final, i just think the bigger teams should be winning this tournament. Looking back at the minor final in previous years the winners being cross and cullyhana should these not be the big teams in this??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 29, 2008, 11:27:57 AM
Did Madden not win the minor championship or something a few years ago, I could be wrong. But Cruppen are defending champions of course and have much of the same team. Bigger teams are not always the best at underage. Dromintee would never have set the world alight at underage. Cullyhanna are probably on the same scale as Cruppen so I don't see why they shouldbe there instead.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on May 29, 2008, 11:36:11 AM
Cruppin beat us last year in the first round by a point r two they didn't seem very special as our team was no more than average with one main player. they went on to win the champ deservedly.
im tryn to say that a team with a few goods players and trains reguraly have a good chance of going very far.
Don't think madden have won very much at minor in a long while
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 29, 2008, 11:39:50 AM
I get where you are coming from and usually the bigger clubs do dominate from minor up as many players feature on the senior players.

What club are you btw? Both teams are there on merit and it should be a good game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on May 29, 2008, 12:00:02 PM
it is in the rules that county players should be playing this sunday as it is within the 13 day rule. the county management have however said that they do not want the county players playing. so with the dromintee and killeavy game i think that any of the clubs who have county players can call the game off as technically the county players should be playing with their club. this is a relegation battle and would not be fair on either team to play without their county players when it is in the rules that they should be playing. think thats right
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 29, 2008, 12:03:56 PM
The county board should have moved the matches till the Friday or Saturday night. This allows the county men to play & also allows the remaining club players to enjoy their week end!

The Tyrone County Board aren't afraid to make these changes... whay is ours!???  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 29, 2008, 12:05:26 PM
The so-called 'big teams' all take this competition very seriously. Thats rubbish to say that they don't. Sure the u21 championship can breed later success at senior level if harnessed correctly. Who do you consider big teams? Cross and Dromintee were both in the semis? Cruppen are a senior championship side, the reigning u21 champions and they are in the final? The only team you are really questioning here is Madden and I've heard reports that this particular group were good at underage level.


Quote from: Candyman on May 29, 2008, 09:15:28 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 29, 2008, 09:01:33 AM
Madden 0-18 Dromintee 1-7

No complaints, the better team won. Can not fault the Dromintee lads for effort but Madden's shooting was simply superb. 18 points over the hour, the majority from play, and I can only remember about three wides.

Their number seven was brilliant and looks a real talent, does anyone know who he is?

Dromintee had a couple of good performers, including DnR's brother who was very good.

He says he's 58??? There's defo something not right there......  ;D

He's my half-brother. Our da is a bit of a ladies man, got his Ma pregnant when she was 19 and he was 68. Some of you silverbridge or Cross ones are bound to be familiar with these sort of seedy rural goings-on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on May 29, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 29, 2008, 12:03:56 PM
The county board should have moved the matches till the Friday or Saturday night. This allows the county men to play & also allows the remaining club players to enjoy their week end!

The Tyrone County Board aren't afraid to make these changes... whay is ours!???  >:(

think even if the games were switched the county management would still not allow the county players to play which is a joke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 29, 2008, 12:09:43 PM
Quote
He's my half-brother. Our da is a bit of a ladies man, got his Ma pregnant when she was 19 and he was 68. Some of you silverbridge or Cross ones are bound to be familiar with these sort of seedy rural goings-on.

LEGEND!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 29, 2008, 12:14:43 PM
I would agree to a certain extent bubbles, However the whole idea of this new league system was to ensure that fixtures were not going to pile up at the end of the year. If for example the relegation in the league came down to the final day. Dromintee and Killeavy both needed only a point from their last game and it just so happens to be against each other. If this game were to finish level and both teams stayed up, couldn't you imagine the uproar.

I acknowledge that county committments are a lot of hassle for clubs. We had the same problem with Marsden and O Hagan but we always played our league fixtures and were indeed relegated one year(though this wasn't the only cause) .

It seems to be the same teams each season postponing games willy nilly and this only leads to mounting tensions at the end of the season. The only way to stop this is to play the games when they are supposed to be played, unless a valid reason occurs which has not been made clear on here at any time. There was supposed to be some two week rule implemented aswell if i am not mistaken and this will have to be abandoned in the killeavy case as Armagh will again be playing.


Oh and crossfire i never said i had a degree in English but once again well done for pointing out a spelling mistake. I am glad you read my posts with such scrutiny and enthusiasm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 29, 2008, 12:19:01 PM
County men can play in games this Friday night but not Sunday - hear that they are in Breffni Sunday morning/afternoon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on May 29, 2008, 12:38:29 PM
Whats the feeling with yous men about the Cavan game?  I cant see yous losing to be honest as Cavan are a pretty poor outfit and i think Seanie J will know the championship has started for real when he finds Mallon hanging of him all over the pitch and Francie flatens him in the middle of one of his mazy solo runs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 29, 2008, 01:01:51 PM

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He's my half-brother. Our da is a bit of a ladies man, got his Ma pregnant when she was 19 and he was 68. Some of you silverbridge or Cross ones are bound to be familiar with these sort of seedy rural goings-on.
[/quote]

Hats off!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 29, 2008, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on May 29, 2008, 01:01:51 PM


He's my half-brother. Our da is a bit of a ladies man, got his Ma pregnant when she was 19 and he was 68. Some of you silverbridge or Cross ones are bound to be familiar with these sort of seedy rural goings-on.
[/quote]

Hats off!!
[/quote]

at least that's clear the whole situation up, my head was pickled there for a bit
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 29, 2008, 01:11:27 PM
DnR is actually female.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 29, 2008, 01:14:27 PM
maybe this should have went in the riddles thread.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 29, 2008, 02:14:43 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 29, 2008, 01:11:27 PM
DnR is actually female.
You Shouldn't have stated that.... If LL is lurking about on this thread he'll put the bounce on her!!!  ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on May 29, 2008, 02:41:39 PM
any opinions on the city derby this weekend now that it looks like the county players will not be available?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 29, 2008, 02:46:36 PM
Billy to be honest Cavan are piss poor but Armagh will probably struggle to beat them as they always do in the ulster. Armagh on paper look far superior to Cavan but for some reason they very rarely produce a display that blows the minnows out of the water.

This doesn't bother me because all is important is a win but this is how i would see. Armagh wil start the game sluggish and go in leading by two at half time. They will come out in the second half and a bit of niggle will creep into it. Armagh go into a four or five point lead only for Cavan to peg them back. The game will be in the balance with 5 minutes to go and Armagh win by two points.

I look forward to you all posting this back up as a quote when it turns out to be :D :D shite  :D :D ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 29, 2008, 02:47:57 PM
Don't share much love for any of them two teams Bubbles so couldn't really care who wins it. But i look forward to the exciting posts on it after sunday ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on May 29, 2008, 02:54:49 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 29, 2008, 02:46:36 PM
Billy to be honest Cavan are piss poor but Armagh will probably struggle to beat them as they always do in the ulster. Armagh on paper look far superior to Cavan but for some reason they very rarely produce a display that blows the minnows out of the water.

This doesn't bother me because all is important is a win but this is how i would see. Armagh wil start the game sluggish and go in leading by two at half time. They will come out in the second half and a bit of niggle will creep into it. Armagh go into a four or five point lead only for Cavan to peg them back. The game will be in the balance with 5 minutes to go and Armagh win by two points.

I look forward to you all posting this back up as a quote when it turns out to be :D :D shite  :D :D ;) ;)

Its been noted dont you worry my friend ;) ;)

Id say youll not be far off Armagh will win but not by much and wont hit top form.  but it will give yous a game to iron out problems before probably meetint Tyrone who are far to quiet for my liking.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on May 29, 2008, 03:23:43 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 29, 2008, 02:46:36 PM
Billy to be honest Cavan are piss poor but Armagh will probably struggle to beat them as they always do in the ulster. Armagh on paper look far superior to Cavan but for some reason they very rarely produce a display that blows the minnows out of the water.

This doesn't bother me because all is important is a win but this is how i would see. Armagh wil start the game sluggish and go in leading by two at half time. They will come out in the second half and a bit of niggle will creep into it. Armagh go into a four or five point lead only for Cavan to peg them back. The game will be in the balance with 5 minutes to go and Armagh win by two points.

I look forward to you all posting this back up as a quote when it turns out to be :D :D shite  :D :D ;) ;)

Thats Armagh circa 2000 - 2006 you're talking about there win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on May 29, 2008, 04:44:48 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 28, 2008, 10:54:57 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 28, 2008, 07:33:44 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 27, 2008, 11:49:26 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 27, 2008, 08:43:55 PM
against harps afew years ago at cruppen or was that due to a DUBIOUS call from the umpire..

aye that was a tight one. some say it was a point... some say it wasnt...
standing directly behind it qub defo a point from a neutral who if anything would have been more in favour of a dromintee win

thought the umpire would have been of the same opinion. the debate still goes on around the shaws. the same umpire got plenty of cheap drink in a bar in belfast where a well known harps man was workin...
qub i wasnt working in shaws at the time and it was defo a point
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 29, 2008, 04:47:06 PM
ohh revealing identity ofanother poster I think thats a breach of rule 3!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 29, 2008, 05:28:56 PM
Uladh i think Armagh won't have changed to much in terms of how they put away games from 2006 but we can only wait until the game itself. But we can speculate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 30, 2008, 01:10:45 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 29, 2008, 12:45:55 AMI went to uni with a guy from madden and he was a sound lad aswell

winsamsoon, who was it you went to uni with?

so lads, any idea when the finals is on?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 30, 2008, 01:31:51 AM
Now now i couldn't disclose any names over the old board that would be breaking rule 3 as someone has stated   ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 30, 2008, 08:19:01 AM
Ballyhegan beat Madden 7 - 5 last night in the B Championship replay at Madden.

Terrible first half, but things heated up in the second half with some hard hits coming in.

Davitts fully deserved their win with some fine work again from Mark Hughes in midfield and youngsters Sean McNally & Gavin Quinn in defence!

The shooting will have to improve to progress any further though!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 30, 2008, 10:14:05 AM
I hear it was a poor, poor game alrite goats!!! Were u playing???  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on May 30, 2008, 10:36:44 AM
Lol Its been a brave while since poor old Goats has kicked a ball! Though hopefully he's not too far away from making a comeback  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 30, 2008, 10:39:19 AM
well he certainly couldn't be any worse hardstation ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 30, 2008, 10:47:56 AM
Quote from: Candyman on May 30, 2008, 10:14:05 AM
I hear it was a poor, poor game alrite goats!!! Were u playing???  ;)

Ai there was a right Harps spying contingent there all right!  :o

Unfortunately i'm not near a full recovery yet! - Nice sentiments from Ben though! :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 30, 2008, 01:15:02 PM
Any more word on the availability of county players this weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 30, 2008, 01:25:08 PM
Are any games going ahead?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 30, 2008, 01:29:19 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 30, 2008, 01:25:08 PM
Are any games going ahead?

As far as I know our game with the Harps is still on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 30, 2008, 02:15:47 PM
dont think they r available?? then again pearse og r like cross... anything could happen!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on May 30, 2008, 02:42:05 PM
Quote from: Candyman on May 30, 2008, 02:15:47 PM
dont think they r available?? then again pearse og r like cross... anything could happen!!!  ;)

Care to elaborate Candyman?  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 30, 2008, 04:14:11 PM
Quote from: BenDover on May 30, 2008, 02:42:05 PM
Quote from: Candyman on May 30, 2008, 02:15:47 PM
dont think they r available?? then again pearse og r like cross... anything could happen!!!  ;)

Care to elaborate Candyman?  ???

He's on the wind up Ben, mouthin as usual ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 30, 2008, 04:17:48 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 30, 2008, 04:24:25 PM
Quote from: Candyman on May 30, 2008, 04:17:48 PM
:-*

Thought u'd appreciate that one  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 30, 2008, 04:26:26 PM
Ach u know me... easy goin as usual!!!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 30, 2008, 04:59:00 PM
Just got word that our game with the Ogs is OFF?!?!?!
cant confirm 100% until later though..... RIPPIN!!!!! >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 30, 2008, 06:57:27 PM
your glad candyman

you didnt want to get cleaned


AGAIN!!!!

in a derby match

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on May 30, 2008, 07:11:52 PM
game def off

heard the harps refused to accept Ogs request to play on sat night, so ogs planned to play county men on sunday unless co.board called game off.

adrian clarke again i think ::) ::)

I'm just posting wot i heard. anyone with any other stories about why it is off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on May 30, 2008, 11:07:31 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on May 30, 2008, 01:10:45 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 29, 2008, 12:45:55 AMI went to uni with a guy from madden and he was a sound lad aswell

winsamsoon, who was it you went to uni with?

so lads, any idea when the finals is on?
final date aint been fixed yet rumour has it that it wont be til after armagh cavan because of county minors and senior players involved
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 30, 2008, 11:16:51 PM
Why would the Haprs not play on saturday night

Were they not up to the challenge of playing the ogs with a full strength team


Maybe the fact that the Harps have a number of injuries was a reason and im sure there actually glad for the match to be called off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on May 30, 2008, 11:42:31 PM
why should Harps play saturday night, when it is was fixed for Sunday. Ogs have all their county men available if played sat night. Harps would not have vernon or Holmes and . Maybe its the Ogs who are not up to the challenge without their county men. Harps would be looking to maintain their 100% record on your new patch.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 31, 2008, 12:05:52 AM
I dont think many teams would want to play a derby match without there 7 county players

As far as i know Holmesy and Charlie are injured so wouldnt be playing anyway

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 31, 2008, 12:09:03 AM
Quote from: mousey on May 30, 2008, 11:07:31 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on May 30, 2008, 01:10:45 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 29, 2008, 12:45:55 AMI went to uni with a guy from madden and he was a sound lad aswell

winsamsoon, who was it you went to uni with?

so lads, any idea when the finals is on?
final date aint been fixed yet rumour has it that it wont be til after armagh cavan because of county minors and senior players involved

word is that its down for 5th july!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 31, 2008, 12:25:26 AM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on May 31, 2008, 12:09:03 AM
Quote from: mousey on May 30, 2008, 11:07:31 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on May 30, 2008, 01:10:45 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 29, 2008, 12:45:55 AMI went to uni with a guy from madden and he was a sound lad aswell

winsamsoon, who was it you went to uni with?

so lads, any idea when the finals is on?
final date aint been fixed yet rumour has it that it wont be til after armagh cavan because of county minors and senior players involved

word is that its down for 5th july!

There is a possibility that the u21 final may not be played until such time as armagh are no longer involved in the championship. though i think that if armagh beat cavan it will be played the weekend after the ulster semi final which is indeed the weekend of 5th july. however, if armagh minors and seniors lost to cavan i would think the final would be played within 2 weeks of the 15th june. so the long and short is who knows.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 31, 2008, 01:06:33 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on May 31, 2008, 12:05:52 AM
I dont think many teams would want to play a derby match without there 7 county players

As far as i know Holmesy and Charlie are injured so wouldnt be playing anyway


Fact is you's yapped to get the match called off....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 31, 2008, 08:47:10 AM
Quote from: Candyman on May 31, 2008, 01:06:33 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on May 31, 2008, 12:05:52 AM
I dont think many teams would want to play a derby match without there 7 county players

As far as i know Holmesy and Charlie are injured so wouldnt be playing anyway


Fact is you's yapped to get the match called off....

Facts are that we were looking to play the game on sunday.  We never yet asked for the game to be called off.  Our county boys were looking to play on sunday which was well within their rights, ala the thirteen day rule.  The county board called the game off. 

Candyman full of shit as usual
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 31, 2008, 09:12:01 AM
I can see why the Harps are pissed off but rule about county players not being allowed to play is a f**king joke - you'd get injured in training as easily as you would in a game. 
About time the clubs start to challenge it and demand their players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 31, 2008, 09:24:51 AM
The Ogs boys are pissed of as well Pints

I know they were looking forward to playing the Harps with there first full strength team against them in years


County board has alot to answer for but again theres no reason why it couldnt be played tonight

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 31, 2008, 09:26:32 AM
yea its a load of shite not lettn the county men play outside the 13 days.... but by the harps refusing to play on sat nite shows they are afeared of a full strenght ogs team and were mayb worried about a hammering!!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 31, 2008, 09:36:50 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on May 30, 2008, 06:57:27 PM
your glad candyman

you didnt want to get cleaned


AGAIN!!!!

in a derby match

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on May 31, 2008, 09:49:34 AM
Could anyone tell me why the harps would wana help the ogs changing the game for the ogs to have an advantage. the ogs aren't to blame neithr the harps its the county board pack of c**ts
any other games off??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 31, 2008, 10:18:53 AM
Agree nutsy

But its good wind up material :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 31, 2008, 10:19:06 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on May 31, 2008, 09:49:34 AM
Could anyone tell me why the harps would wana help the ogs changing the game for the ogs to have an advantage. the ogs aren't to blame neithr the harps its the county board pack of c**ts
any other games off??

It's the county boards fault surely.  Both teams wanted to play the match.

(With the exception of candyman  ;) )
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 31, 2008, 10:26:21 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 31, 2008, 10:19:06 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on May 31, 2008, 09:49:34 AM
Could anyone tell me why the harps would wana help the ogs changing the game for the ogs to have an advantage. the ogs aren't to blame neithr the harps its the county board pack of c**ts
any other games off??

It's the county boards fault surely.  Both teams wanted to play the match.

(With the exception of candyman  ;) )

You start a few matches for the Ogs and now ye think your McGeeney FFS!!!  :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 31, 2008, 10:34:08 AM
Quote from: Candyman on May 31, 2008, 10:26:21 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 31, 2008, 10:19:06 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on May 31, 2008, 09:49:34 AM
Could anyone tell me why the harps would wana help the ogs changing the game for the ogs to have an advantage. the ogs aren't to blame neithr the harps its the county board pack of c**ts
any other games off??

It's the county boards fault surely.  Both teams wanted to play the match.

(With the exception of candyman  ;) )

You start a few matches for the Ogs and now ye think your McGeeney FFS!!!  :-*

I was expecting a P2 remark like that.   :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 31, 2008, 10:38:54 AM
ach now come on... your the lads on the wind-up here from 9.30am on a feckin sat mornin when any normal person is enjoying a lie in... ;)
;)
Your time spent on the board will soon be up there with Pints!!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on May 31, 2008, 10:40:23 AM
Im sure no one rejects that its the county boards fault but why would the harps refuse to play tonight? I can see where some of the posters are coming from.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 31, 2008, 10:45:11 AM
Quote from: doire na raithe on May 31, 2008, 10:40:23 AM
Im sure no one rejects that its the county boards fault but why would the harps refuse to play tonight? I can see where some of the posters are coming from.

Many Harps men including myself know nothing about the offer to play the match 2nite!! Im not saying it didnt happen but we were not consulted on this matter.....
Shoe on the other foot though, Would NA Piarsigh Oga change the game to suit Harps if requested??? (Think back a few years ago and u'll have your answer, I wouldnt think so!!!)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 31, 2008, 10:55:31 AM
Quote from: Candyman on May 31, 2008, 10:38:54 AM
ach now come on... your the lads on the wind-up here from 9.30am on a feckin sat mornin when any normal person is enjoying a lie in... ;)
;)
Your time spent on the board will soon be up there with Pints!!! ;D

0930 in the morning isn't too bad if you're in work

It's more worrying if you're on in the wee hours of the the morning  for example " Today at 01:06:33 AM" Candyman

what's that all about?? ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 31, 2008, 11:00:38 AM
i was gonna say i was playing poker but sure ye's all know i was on the dirty wee sites!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 31, 2008, 12:32:56 PM
tones beat newtown by 3 last night
Title: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 31, 2008, 11:40:21 PM
Tir na og beat the 'bridge tongiht, not sure of the score.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on June 01, 2008, 02:28:59 PM
Annaghmore beat Tullysaran 3-9 to 0-3 last night.  Poor game for most of the 60 minutes tbh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on June 01, 2008, 05:36:32 PM
cullyhanna beaten by maghery by two points. Worst display of the season by our lads. Lack of county men and county minors really taking its toll. Maghery were a lot smarter on the ball and we couldnt react. Two bad results this week for us but our good start gives us some breathing space. Good performances from Mal Mackin Ciaran o Hare and Eamon Mc Ardle who scored two goals on his debut at full forward.Hopefully we will improve when we get back to Cullyhanna next week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 01, 2008, 05:55:55 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on June 01, 2008, 05:36:32 PM
cullyhanna beaten by maghery by two points. Worst display of the season by our lads. Lack of county men and county minors really taking its toll. Maghery were a lot smarter on the ball and we couldnt react. Two bad results this week for us but our good start gives us some breathing space. Good performances from Mal Mackin Ciaran o Hare and Eamon Mc Ardle who scored two goals on his debut at full forward.Hopefully we will improve when we get back to Cullyhanna next week.
very good for result for maghery i thought that would happen they were unlucky last week. i tink they'l beat the drop in the end.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 01, 2008, 05:59:40 PM
Division 1

Cross beat Mullabawn 0-16 to 1-08
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sean og on June 01, 2008, 06:19:30 PM
I see cross were able to play and win without any
of there countymen so what wuz all the fuss about
county players not playing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on June 01, 2008, 07:04:46 PM
st Michaels newtown 1-12   an portmor 0-09

anyone know if Keady beat Wolfe Tones
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 01, 2008, 07:30:48 PM
Quote from: sean og on June 01, 2008, 06:19:30 PM
I see cross were able to play and win without any
of there countymen so what wuz all the fuss about
county players not playing

Congrats on making idiotic Post of the year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on June 01, 2008, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 01, 2008, 07:30:48 PM
Quote from: sean og on June 01, 2008, 06:19:30 PM
I see cross were able to play and win without any
of there countymen so what wuz all the fuss about
county players not playing

Congrats on making idiotic Post of the year

Uladh, everyone on this board are entitled to their view.  Why do you always have to be the spa and protray to be intelligent
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 01, 2008, 08:31:42 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on June 01, 2008, 05:36:32 PM
cullyhanna beaten by maghery by two points. Worst display of the season by our lads. Lack of county men and county minors really taking its toll. Maghery were a lot smarter on the ball and we couldnt react. Two bad results this week for us but our good start gives us some breathing space. Good performances from Mal Mackin Ciaran o Hare and Eamon Mc Ardle who scored two goals on his debut at full forward.Hopefully we will improve when we get back to Cullyhanna next week.
Shock result there, I hope you are as bad next week :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on June 01, 2008, 08:46:56 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on June 01, 2008, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 01, 2008, 07:30:48 PM
Quote from: sean og on June 01, 2008, 06:19:30 PM
I see cross were able to play and win without any
of there countymen so what wuz all the fuss about
county players not playing

Congrats on making idiotic Post of the year

Uladh, everyone on this board are entitled to their view.  Why do you always have to be the spa and protray to be intelligent

This is hardly a view? Its just immature wind-up material.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 01, 2008, 09:13:13 PM
tones beat keady by 6
Title: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 01, 2008, 09:15:20 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on June 01, 2008, 08:46:56 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on June 01, 2008, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 01, 2008, 07:30:48 PM
Quote from: sean og on June 01, 2008, 06:19:30 PM
I see cross were able to play and win without any
of there countymen so what wuz all the fuss about
county players not playing

Congrats on making idiotic Post of the year

Uladh, everyone on this board are entitled to their view.  Why do you always have to be the spa and protray to be intelligent

This is hardly a view? Its just immature wind-up material.

Holy f**k  :D
Pot kettle and black!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 01, 2008, 09:31:32 PM
culloville 3-10 clan na gael 2-8. Shite performance from start to finish. There could have been more in it to be honest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 01, 2008, 10:26:01 PM
anyone an idea of the division 1 table, culloville must be 2nd would they be??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 01, 2008, 11:48:23 PM
Quotecullyhanna beaten by maghery by two points. Worst display of the season by our lads. Lack of county men and county minors really taking its toll. Maghery were a lot smarter on the ball and we couldnt react. Two bad results this week for us but our good start gives us some breathing space. Good performances from Mal Mackin Ciaran o Hare and Eamon Mc Ardle who scored two goals on his debut at full forward.Hopefully we will improve when we get back to Cullyhanna next week.

Wasn't home his weekend so missed the game but shockin disappointing result. We were always long outsiders for winning the league but the last 2 results probably make it next to impossible. I think we're always going to struggle without Brookie. Good to see one of the younger players getting a chance and doing well though.

QuoteI see cross were able to play and win without any
of there countymen so what wuz all the fuss about
county players not playing

Right enough small clubs missing their best players shouldn't have any affect whatsoever.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 02, 2008, 09:53:03 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on June 01, 2008, 10:26:01 PM
anyone an idea of the division 1 table, culloville must be 2nd would they be??

ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 1 JUNE 2008

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 8 7 1 0 15
Culloville 8 6 1 1 13
Pearse Og 7 5 1 1 11
St Patrick's 9 5 0 4 10
Harps 8 3 2 3 8
Clan na Gael 9 3 2 4 8
Mullaghbawn 6 3 1 4 7
Dromintee 8 2 1 5 5
Maghery 9 1 1 7 3
Killeavey 7 1 0 6 2

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Tir na nÓg 9 7 0 2 14
Sarsfields 9 6 1 2 13
St Michael's 9 6 0 3 12
Carrickcruppen 9 5 1 3 11
Clann Eireann 8 5 0 3 10
Wolfe Tones 9 5 0 4 10
Granemore 8 4 0 4 8
Silverbridge 9 4 0 5 8
Ballymacnab 9 3 1 5 7
An Port Mor 9 2 1 6 5
Whitecross 9 2 0 7 4
Keady 7 1 0 6 2

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Collegeland 9 8 0 1 16
Madden 8 6 1 1 13
St Paul's 9 6 1 2 13
Annaghmore 8 6 0 2 12
Belleek 8 4 1 3 9
Lissummon 8 3 2 3 8
St Peter's 8 4 0 4 8
Ballyhegan 8 3 0 5 6
Clonmore 7 2 1 4 5
Grange 9 2 1 6 5
Tullysaran 8 1 0 7 2
Crossmaglen II 8 0 1 7 1

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 7 6 1 0 13
Middletown 8 5 2 1 12
Eire Og 8 5 1 2 11
Derrynoose 8 5 0 3 10
Forkhill 8 5 0 3 10
Clady 8 3 2 3 8
O'Hanlon's 8 4 0 4 8
Corrinshego 7 2 1 4 5
Mullaghbrack 8 2 1 5 5
Dorsey Emmett's 8 2 0 6 4
Phelim Brady's 8 0 0 8 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 02, 2008, 11:07:39 AM
Quote from: goh4205 on June 01, 2008, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 01, 2008, 07:30:48 PM
Quote from: sean og on June 01, 2008, 06:19:30 PM
I see cross were able to play and win without any
of there countymen so what wuz all the fuss about
county players not playing

Congrats on making idiotic Post of the year

Uladh, everyone on this board are entitled to their view.  Why do you always have to be the spa and protray to be intelligent

It has been discussed to death that cross obviously have greater resources and much larger strength in depth and are therefore far more easily able to absorb the loss of players.

Lord knows, the last thing i want to do is to "protray to be intelligent".
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 02, 2008, 11:33:56 AM
Just on the clans culloville game yesterday lads. I cannot for the likes of me understand why that lad hatzer ain't on the county squad. Anytime we have played against them he has ben absolutely lethal. If he is given an inch he certainly knows where the posts are. Also the number 10 for Culloville is a pretty decent footballer, he gets through a lot of work.

Was Hatzer ever on the county panel???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 02, 2008, 11:39:34 AM

Not sure if he was win but he suffers from ryan henderson syndrome
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 02, 2008, 12:17:15 PM
was Hatzer not on the county panel about 5 years ago?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on June 02, 2008, 12:25:05 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 02, 2008, 11:39:34 AM

Not sure if he was win but he suffers from ryan henderson syndrome

:D :D

we must have been crap then win eh? you back to fitness yet? is there still an injury list the length of your arm or has that cleared up a bit?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 02, 2008, 03:44:43 PM
Kieran Hatzer was on the county panel about 5 years ago.
Got a few games in Mc kenna cup and league but didn't impress.
Is still a very good footballer though.

Is this the first time Culloville beat Clans at this level, ie, senior league or Championship.??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 02, 2008, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 02, 2008, 11:39:34 AM

Not sure if he was win but he suffers from ryan henderson syndrome

What exactly is the ryan Henderson syndrome
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 02, 2008, 04:36:36 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on June 02, 2008, 03:53:26 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 02, 2008, 11:39:34 AM

Not sure if he was win but he suffers from ryan henderson syndrome

What exactly is the ryan Henderson syndrome
Wing mirrors!!!  ;) (am i right???)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 02, 2008, 04:54:23 PM
No blue the injury list is still the length of a babies arm. I may even come out of retirement myself shortly. All in all a brutal display yesterday from start to finish.

So it would be fair to say that Hatzer hasn't got a fair crack of the whip then and would be well worthy of another chance???

I think Culloville beat us about 3 or 4 years back in the league but wouldn't be 100%on that one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on June 02, 2008, 10:32:32 PM
Quote from: crossfire on June 02, 2008, 03:44:43 PM
Kieran Hatzer was on the county panel about 5 years ago.
Got a few games in Mc kenna cup and league but didn't impress.
Is still a very good footballer though.

Is this the first time Culloville beat Clans at this level, ie, senior league or Championship.??

Didn't Kieran Hatzer get an All Ireland in 2002? Also played hurling for the County if memory serves me well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on June 02, 2008, 11:09:16 PM
Fairly sure Hatzer wasnt near championship panel that year but did play a few league games.
Good strong player with very accurate right peg, but might lack pace for next level. Big step up from doin it in league game against an out of sorts Clanns outfit to inter county level as many a player has found out!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bailemhiccholla on June 03, 2008, 12:54:49 PM
Hatzer was nowhere near the panel in 2002, he played a cpl of mckenna cup games around 99-2000

But there were worse players on the panel in '02........

He has played county hurling via Keady
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on June 03, 2008, 01:29:13 PM
What age is this fella Hatzer then? Plus does he have a german granda?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on June 03, 2008, 01:37:02 PM
He must be kicking the arse of 30 at this stage.
Rudolf Hatzer fled Germanyy and opted for refuge in the Culloville hills after the Nazis took over in 1933.
Not sure if he played much ball tho!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 03, 2008, 01:44:20 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on June 03, 2008, 01:37:02 PM
He must be kicking the arse of 30 at this stage.
Rudolf Hatzer fled Germanyy and opted for refuge in the Culloville hills after the Nazis took over in 1933.
Not sure if he played much ball tho!

Yeah he'd be 29-30
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SCENTOFSAM on June 03, 2008, 02:03:11 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on June 03, 2008, 01:37:02 PM
He must be kicking the arse of 30 at this stage.
Rudolf Hatzer fled Germanyy and opted for refuge in the Culloville hills after the Nazis took over in 1933.
Not sure if he played much ball tho!
he wouldn't be related to the Hatzers from Oberamagau by any chance
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 03, 2008, 02:25:53 PM
Is there not 2 or 3 brothers there?  Would people be running a couple of family histories into one?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on June 03, 2008, 02:34:17 PM
Couple of brothers as right. All descendants of the late great Rudolf!! Not sure of any Oberamagau connection!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 03, 2008, 03:39:08 PM
The lad to me stands out at club level even at this moment. My point is why isn't he being given the chance this year to get onto the county panel??? There are worse guys on the panel than Hatzer and that is for sure. This gain brings me back to the selection process and this kind of thing exposes it as a farce.

Some guys are saying he may not be good enough but if he gets a proper chance (not some Mckenna cup games ) then one could say he got his chance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 03, 2008, 03:50:46 PM

Hatzer is a good club footballer but he's not good enough for county level
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on June 03, 2008, 03:59:09 PM
maybe not but id agree with Winsam that he is a better footballer than some of the ones who will be warming the bench all summer!
His age maybe a factor altho it shouldnt be, or maybe Peter Mc  just hasnt been impressed in any games he has seen him in, who knows!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 03, 2008, 04:17:53 PM
So what players would he be better than then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 03, 2008, 04:22:35 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on June 03, 2008, 03:59:09 PM
maybe not but id agree with Winsam that he is a better footballer than some of the ones who will be warming the bench all summer!

i can't think of any. he does well against club corner backs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 03, 2008, 04:48:10 PM
I'm sure Cross are quaking in their boots at the thought of the mighty Clans visiting on sunday where Mr Hearty has the honour of "The peacemaker"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 03, 2008, 09:13:16 PM
I'm hearing Cullyhana match is on friday night against the Harps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on June 03, 2008, 09:46:36 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 03, 2008, 04:48:10 PM
I'm sure Cross are quaking in their boots at the thought of the mighty Clans visiting on sunday where Mr Hearty has the honour of "The peacemaker"
that horrible little hitler he is a desperate referee..pity he wudn f**k aff back til managin beleek cuz we all had peace when he wuz there



ps where has diesel-smuggler gone to ????????? :o :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 03, 2008, 10:26:49 PM
Quote from: mousey on June 03, 2008, 09:46:36 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 03, 2008, 04:48:10 PM
I'm sure Cross are quaking in their boots at the thought of the mighty Clans visiting on sunday where Mr Hearty has the honour of "The peacemaker"
that horrible little hitler he is a desperate referee..pity he wudn f**k aff back til managin beleek cuz we all had peace when he wuz there



ps where has diesel-smuggler gone to ????????? :o :o

i believe ds broke a rule of the gaa board and therefore felt the wrath of the administrators and is currently serving his penance.

u21 final is fixed for sat 5th july, abbey park, 6 pm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 04, 2008, 09:07:57 AM
Mid Board B Semi's tonight

Harps v Granemore in Clady at 7.30pm
Ogs v Ballyhegan (think I heard it was in the Grange- not sure)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cuchulainns Ard Mhacha on June 04, 2008, 09:57:34 AM
Saturday 5th July

Carrickcruppen v Madden

U21 Championship Final
Abbey Park
2:00pm Throw-in
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardasell on June 04, 2008, 11:04:39 AM
Maybe still stirring an empty pot, but I keep hearing that all the O'Rourkes have walked out of Dromintee (not sure if that includes Malachy btw) over Loughran-gate.

Any truth in the rumour
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 04, 2008, 11:35:41 AM
Quote from: ardasell on June 04, 2008, 11:04:39 AM
Maybe still stirring an empty pot, but I keep hearing that all the O'Rourkes have walked out of Dromintee (not sure if that includes Malachy btw) over Loughran-gate.

Any truth in the rumour

Was told that the other night by the mammy.  Don't know how much is in it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bailemhiccholla on June 04, 2008, 11:44:37 AM
A mate with me here has just said that would do Dromintee the world of good!!  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 04, 2008, 12:46:53 PM

Heard quite a bit of the oul rumours myself (some more outlandish tha others!) but didn't hear that.
Can't see how division 3 football would do dromintee the world of good though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 04, 2008, 12:54:02 PM
If they did leave, what would be their likely destination?  They'd hardly play for another club in Armagh would they?  Follow McArdle into Louth?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 04, 2008, 12:56:17 PM
Jumping the gun here lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 04, 2008, 12:57:29 PM

Sure they wouldn't get a game anywhere else!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 04, 2008, 01:08:46 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 04, 2008, 12:57:29 PM

Sure they wouldn't get a game anywhere else!


[EDited by Mod3] - they are gifted footballers and Dromintee would struggle without them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on June 04, 2008, 01:15:02 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 04, 2008, 12:46:53 PM

Heard quite a bit of the oul rumours myself (some more outlandish tha others!) but didn't hear that.
Can't see how division 3 football would do dromintee the world of good though.

You mean without 3 good players Dromintee will end up in Division 3??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 04, 2008, 01:20:11 PM
I think there a little more than good players, plus I think it was a bit tongue-in-cheek.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on June 04, 2008, 01:41:23 PM
Probaly are better than that but no player(s) from any team club or county are bigger than the team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 04, 2008, 01:49:48 PM
Don't think anyone suggested that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bud on June 04, 2008, 01:55:16 PM
So corn, have they left?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 04, 2008, 02:00:07 PM
I think the only one they would really miss is Aidan - Marty is a liability and Micheal isnt what hes cracked up to be. It would give others the chance to stand up and be counted which is sometimes exactly what a club needs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 04, 2008, 02:11:52 PM
Ivedecided is the winner of stupidest post of the year.

No idea Bud, first I have heard of it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 04, 2008, 02:14:01 PM
They would miss every single one of the o' Rourkes if they actually leave. But it would be like everything else it may take time but they would be replaced in time. But in the short term it would certainly be a big loss to them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 04, 2008, 02:18:11 PM
Once again, hear-say etc etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on June 04, 2008, 02:32:48 PM
Could someone post the Armagh league tables after the weekends games

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 04, 2008, 02:46:38 PM
Billy i thought it was up a few pages back but i could be mistaken.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 04, 2008, 02:48:14 PM
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 1 JUNE 2008

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 8 7 1 0 15
Culloville 8 6 1 1 13
Pearse Og 7 5 1 1 11
St Patrick's 9 5 0 4 10
Harps 8 3 2 3 8
Clan na Gael 9 3 2 4 8
Mullaghbawn 6 3 1 4 7
Dromintee 8 2 1 5 5
Maghery 9 1 1 7 3
Killeavey 7 1 0 6 2

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Tir na nÓg 9 7 0 2 14
Sarsfields 9 6 1 2 13
St Michael's 9 6 0 3 12
Carrickcruppen 9 5 1 3 11
Clann Eireann 8 5 0 3 10
Wolfe Tones 9 5 0 4 10
Granemore 8 4 0 4 8
Silverbridge 9 4 0 5 8
Ballymacnab 9 3 1 5 7
An Port Mor 9 2 1 6 5
Whitecross 9 2 0 7 4
Keady 7 1 0 6 2

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Collegeland 9 8 0 1 16
Madden 8 6 1 1 13
St Paul's 9 6 1 2 13
Annaghmore 8 6 0 2 12
Belleek 8 4 1 3 9
Lissummon 8 3 2 3 8
St Peter's 8 4 0 4 8
Ballyhegan 8 3 0 5 6
Clonmore 7 2 1 4 5
Grange 9 2 1 6 5
Tullysaran 8 1 0 7 2
Crossmaglen II 8 0 1 7 1

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 7 6 1 0 13
Middletown 8 5 2 1 12
Eire Og 8 5 1 2 11
Derrynoose 8 5 0 3 10
Forkhill 8 5 0 3 10
Clady 8 3 2 3 8
O'Hanlon's 8 4 0 4 8
Corrinshego 7 2 1 4 5
Mullaghbrack 8 2 1 5 5
Dorsey Emmett's 8 2 0 6 4
Phelim Brady's 8 0 0 8 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on June 04, 2008, 02:58:38 PM
Cheers lad

Is it 2 up 2 down this year or playoffs again?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 04, 2008, 03:06:36 PM
2 up and 2 down. the playoffs made the season too long. Dromintee killeavey for the drop, hopefully!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 04, 2008, 03:11:10 PM
What club are you Nutsy?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on June 04, 2008, 03:21:09 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 04, 2008, 02:48:14 PM
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 1 JUNE 2008

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 8 7 1 0 15
Culloville 8 6 1 1 13
Pearse Og 7 5 1 1 11
St Patrick's 9 5 0 4 10
Harps 8 3 2 3 8
Clan na Gael 9 3 2 4 8
Mullaghbawn 6 3 1 4 7
Dromintee 8 2 1 5 5
Maghery 9 1 1 7 3
Killeavey 7 1 0 6 2

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Tir na nÓg 9 7 0 2 14
Sarsfields 9 6 1 2 13
St Michael's 9 6 0 3 12
Carrickcruppen 9 5 1 3 11
Clann Eireann 8 5 0 3 10
Wolfe Tones 9 5 0 4 10
Granemore 8 4 0 4 8
Silverbridge 9 4 0 5 8
Ballymacnab 9 3 1 5 7
An Port Mor 9 2 1 6 5
Whitecross 9 2 0 7 4
Keady 7 1 0 6 2

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Collegeland 9 8 0 1 16
Madden 8 6 1 1 13
St Paul's 9 6 1 2 13
Annaghmore 8 6 0 2 12
Belleek 8 4 1 3 9
Lissummon 8 3 2 3 8
St Peter's 8 4 0 4 8
Ballyhegan 8 3 0 5 6
Clonmore 7 2 1 4 5
Grange 9 2 1 6 5
Tullysaran 8 1 0 7 2
Crossmaglen II 8 0 1 7 1

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 7 6 1 0 13
Middletown 8 5 2 1 12
Eire Og 8 5 1 2 11
Derrynoose 8 5 0 3 10
Forkhill 8 5 0 3 10
Clady 8 3 2 3 8
O'Hanlon's 8 4 0 4 8
Corrinshego 7 2 1 4 5
Mullaghbrack 8 2 1 5 5
Dorsey Emmett's 8 2 0 6 4
Phelim Brady's 8 0 0 8 0

Div 1/2 think Killeavy and Maghery will go down  With Tir na nOg and Sarsfield/Cruppen going up. at a push I would say Cruppen

Div2/3 two from Ballymacnab, An port Mor and Keady to go down, prob Nab and An Port Mor. Fancy Collegeland and Madden to make it up.

Div3/4 Tullysarran and Grange to go down as Cross II will get minors and u21s out to win games if need be later in the year. Fancy shane Oneills and Middletown to maintain it and gain promotion.

Div4/Ladies football Phelim Brady's to drop down to Ladies football after another fruitless season - and they would prob win the thing as the standard is that low.

Ladies football Matches should be played behind closed doors where nobody has to watch it.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 04, 2008, 03:27:54 PM
I'm a harpsman!!! i'm guessn your from dromintee and your a bit like ourselves nearer the bottom than the top, i think any team below culylhana could go down because there isn't much difference between most of them.
Tir na nóg and cruppin to go up, keady is a cert for the drop and probably port mor.
Collegeland and annaghmore to go up, tullysaran n cross for the drop.
the bottom division doesn't count.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 04, 2008, 04:50:16 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 04, 2008, 02:14:01 PM
They would miss every single one of the o' Rourkes if they actually leave. But it would be like everything else it may take time but they would be replaced in time. But in the short term it would certainly be a big loss to them.

i dont think the o'rourkes would walk away from dromintee. i do think there has been a fall out and whatever has went on dromintee club as a whole have shown a great deal of professionalism, for lack of a better word, in keeping whatever has gone on "in house" and between themselves even though im sure nearly every member has been asked what is goin on. fair play to them. couldnt imagine dromintee lining out against cross in the championship this year without the o'rourkes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on June 04, 2008, 05:00:48 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 03, 2008, 02:25:53 PM
Is there not 2 or 3 brothers there?  Would people be running a couple of family histories into one?

5 brothers, Kieran is the eldest - 30ish, followed by Paul who is manager of the Culloville ladies team! Peter is a regular in the blues full-forward line, Christopher doesn't play much ball, and young Cathal will be a good player. I think Kieran came on at least once as a sub in the '00 Ulster campaign
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on June 04, 2008, 06:18:06 PM
Lads, can someone shed some light on where this story is coming from right enough? There has been no unusual absences from training considering they all are otherwise engaged with county committments. Cathal is still on the management team and at every training and there has been no mention at all of them leaving. Are there Dromintee members feeding these rumours?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 04, 2008, 09:52:47 PM
Granemore beat Harps 0-10 to 0-8 (maybe 0-11, not sure).  Game of two halves on the hill that passes for Clady pitch.  Lashed for most of the first half, granemore went in 9-1 up.  Harps pressed in the second but couldn't get the onion we needed.  Best team won on the day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 04, 2008, 10:50:31 PM
want to wish ciaran mc keever all the best for sunday week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 04, 2008, 10:54:07 PM
just want to know why there was no members from the bridge down at the opening off st pats new complex.if any one knows will yous please write in and state why thanx ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 04, 2008, 11:01:30 PM
Quote from: back off the net on June 04, 2008, 10:54:07 PM
just want to know why there was no members from the bridge down at the opening off st pats new complex.if any one knows will yous please write in and state why thanx ;D

afraid of gettin a hidin for simply bein from the bridge likely. were u at the opening of the bridge's new complex a few months back?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on June 04, 2008, 11:34:40 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on June 04, 2008, 11:01:30 PM
Quote from: back off the net on June 04, 2008, 10:54:07 PM
just want to know why there was no members from the bridge down at the opening off st pats new complex.if any one knows will yous please write in and state why thanx ;D

afraid of gettin a hidin for simply bein from the bridge likely. were u at the opening of the bridge's new complex a few months back?

don't take the bait qub, obviously on the wind up!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on June 05, 2008, 01:06:37 AM
Madden beat Annaghmore tonight by 10pts in Rapperee Park tonight to help close the gap with collegeland at the top.

Madden 2-14 Annaghmore 1-07
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 05, 2008, 08:14:44 AM
Ballyhegan beat Ogs Development squad by 5 points in the Mid B Championship Semi at Ballymacnab last night.

Ogs started brightest & went 3 - 1 up early on, yet failed to capitalise on early dominance, hitting at least 5 wides.

Davitts then lost veteran midfielder 'Bo' Tiffney, yet grew into the game in the second quarter with some good scores from Mickey McKeever & Paddy Marley, excellently fed by the new midfield partnership of Mark Hughes & Shane McKeever.

Mark Hughes scored a first half penalty & big Mickey McKeever was first to react to a looping ball, to kick to the net, putting the Davitts 6 points to the good at half time.

Again Ogs started quickest in the 2nd half, pegging the young Ballyhegan side back to 2 points, before Sam Al Janabi expertly saved a penalty for the Davitts. The returning Kevin Keegan and Paddy Marley pointed & another goal from full forward Mickey McKeever put the reigning Mid B Champions through to the final.

Man of the match - Shane McKeever of Ballyhegan

Sam McClatchy's style of referring has always confused me! – I would prefer not to notice the ref during a match, but it's as if he tries to antagonise both sets of players & supporters!? If there is a worse referee in the country, I'll be shocked!  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 05, 2008, 09:13:35 AM
Just to back up DnR, I got talking to a few of the players last night and they were a bit baffled by the rumour.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on June 05, 2008, 10:42:44 AM
Quote from: back off the net on June 04, 2008, 10:54:07 PM
just want to know why there was no members from the bridge down at the opening off st pats new complex.if any one knows will yous please write in and state why thanx ;D

I wondered this myself and even pondered it over dinner yesterday evening. But no answer was forthcoming.  I decided to sleep on it and tossed and turned all night trying to figure it out and when i woke this morning it came to me like a flash in the dark..............................
Its Probably because yous are a crowd of gypsies
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 05, 2008, 11:44:56 AM
QuoteSam McClatchy's style of referring has always confused me! – I would prefer not to notice the ref during a match, but it's as if he tries to antagonise both sets of players & supporters!? If there is a worse referee in the country, I'll be shocked!

If there is a better referee in the country I'd be shocked :o

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 05, 2008, 11:49:08 AM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on June 05, 2008, 11:44:56 AM
QuoteSam McClatchy's style of referring has always confused me! – I would prefer not to notice the ref during a match, but it's as if he tries to antagonise both sets of players & supporters!? If there is a worse referee in the country, I'll be shocked!

If there is a better referee in the country I'd be shocked :o

You serious?  :D

He booked a player for shouting "Penalty!!" last night! (He did give the pen!)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on June 05, 2008, 11:52:16 AM
Quote from: billy the kid on June 05, 2008, 10:42:44 AM
Quote from: back off the net on June 04, 2008, 10:54:07 PM
just want to know why there was no members from the bridge down at the opening off st pats new complex.if any one knows will yous please write in and state why thanx ;D

I wondered this myself and even pondered it over dinner yesterday evening. But no answer was forthcoming.  I decided to sleep on it and tossed and turned all night trying to figure it out and when i woke this morning it came to me like a flash in the dark..............................
Its Probably because yous are a crowd of gypsies
and?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on June 05, 2008, 11:55:57 AM
Quote from: back off the net on June 04, 2008, 10:50:31 PM
want to wish ciaran mc keever all the best for sunday week.
are you ciaran mckeevers ma or something?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 05, 2008, 01:05:07 PM
Team I would like to see if AOR is fit.

McKinney

Enda Bellew Mallon
McKeever AOR Kernan
McGrane Toner
O'Rourke Vernon McKeever
McDonnell Clarke Mallon.


How strong would our bench be?

Hearty, Moriarty, Shannon, Donaghy, O'Neill, Swift, TK, McKeever.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on June 05, 2008, 01:15:23 PM
Quote from: corn02 on June 05, 2008, 01:05:07 PM
Team I would like to see if AOR is fit.

McKinney

Enda Bellew Mallon
McKeever AOR Kernan
McGrane Toner
O'Rourke Vernon McKeever
McDonnell Clarke Mallon.


How strong would our bench be?

Hearty, Moriarty, Shannon, Donaghy, O'Neill, Swift, TK, McKeever.

IS there 3 McKeevers on panel?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on June 05, 2008, 01:18:27 PM
and was there not 4 Kernans
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on June 05, 2008, 01:19:26 PM
and a McConville?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 05, 2008, 02:25:18 PM
Meant Kernan on the 40. Would not consider PK good enough for this level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 05, 2008, 04:15:56 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on June 05, 2008, 11:44:56 AM
QuoteSam McClatchy's style of referring has always confused me! – I would prefer not to notice the ref during a match, but it's as if he tries to antagonise both sets of players & supporters!? If there is a worse referee in the country, I'll be shocked!

If there is a better referee in the country I'd be shocked :o



Must be a WUM
He is woeful
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 05, 2008, 06:13:33 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on June 04, 2008, 11:01:30 PM
Quote from: back off the net on June 04, 2008, 10:54:07 PM
just want to know why there was no members from the bridge down at the opening off st pats new complex.if any one knows will yous please write in and state why thanx ;D

afraid of gettin a hidin for simply bein from the bridge likely. were u at the opening of the bridge's new complex a few months back?

think one hidin was enough for yous pusseys.no was not at it dont think to many turned up it was like the concert yous had one year no one at it empty just like your footballers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 05, 2008, 06:19:54 PM
could some one tell me how may silverbridge players are on the county ??? i hear they were doing irish dancing instead off football training one week hats why they r shit :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on June 05, 2008, 06:22:01 PM
quote author=full back link=topic=769.msg305202#msg305202 date=1212678956]
Quote from: Armagh Exile on June 05, 2008, 11:44:56 AM
QuoteSam McClatchy’s style of referring has always confused me! – I would prefer not to notice the ref during a match, but it’s as if he tries to antagonise both sets of players & supporters!? If there is a worse referee in the country, I’ll be shocked!

If there is a better referee in the country I'd be shocked :o



Must be a WUM
He is woeful
[/quote]

Big Sam is old school, and i hav always enjoyed the games when hes refereed as a player and a spector, Kevin Gollogy from mullabrack is the worst ever he will get someone seriously hurt, has no control over or does he even no the rules and sometimes he doesnt even no why hes blown the whistle, with Big Sam, u no wat ur gettin hit hard and shut your mouth and ull be grand![
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 05, 2008, 06:29:51 PM
big sam is the sort off ref that cullyhanna would want to have playing the bridge.he lets everything go and if your not fit to take the hard hitting tough shit.just wish he was the ref a few years ago in cross.its great to see cross are doing there field up at the min just hope they put up a better fence to stop players from running into the stand to get away from getting hit. READ THIS BRIDGE PLAYERS  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on June 06, 2008, 08:48:06 AM
Someone has found another website besides orchardcounty
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 06, 2008, 08:55:44 AM
Quote from: Whacker on June 06, 2008, 08:48:06 AM
Someone has found another website besides orchardcounty

If everyone ignores him he'll soon go away
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on June 06, 2008, 11:26:19 AM
back of the net you are an idiot.

any predictions on this weekends matches? id say there will be a few shock results now that the county players are unavailable
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 06, 2008, 11:44:20 AM
ACL – Division One (2.00)

Maghery v Dromintee           Draw
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og     Mullaghbawn (Simply because Ogs have no county men)
Killeavey v Culloville              Culloville
Crossmaglen v Clan na Gael   Cross
St Patrick's v Harps              Harps  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 06, 2008, 01:11:34 PM
I personally think sam mc clatchey wasn't (is he still going?) a bad ref as refs compared to some. However people are claiming he lets everything go and plenty of hard hitting. This is perfectly ok and i am all for the sport being physically even to the point where it borders on the free. But sometimes McClatchey ignores major incidents and in many ways puts some players in danger.

Mc Clatchy will bend the rules to suit the teams that are playing. He will ignore things that are free kicks and this is totally unacceptable. So whilst he is grand for letting the game flow he sometimes misses major incidents that are going on around him and picks up on silly things especially if he has a dislike for you. For this reason he would be one of the best of a bad bunch.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 06, 2008, 01:23:58 PM
I think Sam is misunderstood.  If you get on with the game and don't rip the piss out off it he will let you play football.  He does not like back chat, so shut up when he is ref.  Sure he is not perfect but will let you get on with it.  he never booked me so that is something ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nowyourtalking on June 06, 2008, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: back off the net on June 05, 2008, 06:29:51 PM
big sam is the sort off ref that cullyhanna would want to have playing the bridge.he lets everything go and if your not fit to take the hard hitting tough shit.just wish he was the ref a few years ago in cross.its great to see cross are doing there field up at the min just hope they put up a better fence to stop players from running into the stand to get away from getting hit. READ THIS BRIDGE PLAYERS  ::)

Your mother must be proud of you......Actually, considering the share of inbred tramps that make up the hellhole that is Cullyhanna, she probably is :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 06, 2008, 01:55:44 PM
Quote from: nowyourtalking on June 06, 2008, 01:52:32 PM
Quote from: back off the net on June 05, 2008, 06:29:51 PM
big sam is the sort off ref that cullyhanna would want to have playing the bridge.he lets everything go and if your not fit to take the hard hitting tough shit.just wish he was the ref a few years ago in cross.its great to see cross are doing there field up at the min just hope they put up a better fence to stop players from running into the stand to get away from getting hit. READ THIS BRIDGE PLAYERS  ::)

Your mother must be proud of you......Actually, considering the share of inbred tramps that make up the hellhole that is Cullyhanna, she probably is :o

probably the same person sending himself messages
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 06, 2008, 05:09:32 PM
i think zig and zag should do one and find a thread on the play school website or something. This is clearly not the place for them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on June 06, 2008, 06:22:31 PM
i´m sure there is a few villages that are in need of a spare idiot?  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on June 06, 2008, 06:25:07 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on June 03, 2008, 10:26:49 PM
Quote from: mousey on June 03, 2008, 09:46:36 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 03, 2008, 04:48:10 PM
I'm sure Cross are quaking in their boots at the thought of the mighty Clans visiting on sunday where Mr Hearty has the honour of "The peacemaker"
that horrible little hitler he is a desperate referee..pity he wudn f**k aff back til managin beleek cuz we all had peace when he wuz there



ps where has diesel-smuggler gone to ????????? :o :o

i believe ds broke a rule of the gaa board and therefore felt the wrath of the administrators and is currently serving his penance.

u21 final is fixed for sat 5th july, abbey park, 6 pm.
suspended he should be banned for life he's a shite stirrer
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nowyourtalking on June 06, 2008, 06:26:51 PM
Actually, I have nothing to do with the that ignoramus.  I have just followed this thread for a while and have been disgusted by what happened to that young lad from bridge outside carrickdale.

Apologies if i came across as an idiot as well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 06, 2008, 07:20:53 PM
Nowyourtalking, I would urge you to not give him the satisfaction of responding.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 06, 2008, 07:28:29 PM
I heard a rumour during the week that in a game between Tir na Nog and sarsfields u-14's, a young sarsfield lad was hit and knocked to the ground and the full forward continued to stamp repeatedly on his head. I heard the lad had to go for a brain scan and more treatment.

As i say this was a rumour. I have deliberately left it a few days just to see did anyone else mention it but it didn't prevail.
So now i am asking did anyone else hear of this???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 06, 2008, 07:53:25 PM
QuoteYour mother must be proud of you......Actually, considering the share of inbred tramps that make up the hellhole that is Cullyhanna, she probably is

Wonderful use of the high moral ground there. No doubt your own mother is blushing with pride.

Quoteprobably the same person sending himself messages

A fairly likely shout el_cuervo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 06, 2008, 07:57:11 PM
That's the only comment you've got a problem with tacadoir?   ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 06, 2008, 08:01:53 PM
Its the only comment I have a problem with that I think there's the slightest chance was written seriously. But it may well be from another (or the same) WUM. I'm not sure. I try not to to play these childish games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 06, 2008, 08:04:24 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 06, 2008, 08:01:53 PM
Its the only comment I have a problem with that I think there's the slightest chance was written seriously. But it may well be from another (or the same) WUM. I'm not sure. I try not to to play these childish games.

Ah sure if he's only winding that's alright.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 06, 2008, 08:07:22 PM
QuoteAh sure if he's only winding that's alright.

Its not "alright" but I don't think for a second the poster's anything to do with St Pat's so try and find another way of feeding your obsessive hatred of Cullyhanna tonight eh Pints?  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 06, 2008, 08:12:15 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 06, 2008, 08:07:22 PM
QuoteAh sure if he's only winding that's alright.

Its not "alright" but I don't think for a second the poster's anything to do with St Pat's so try and find another way of feeding your obsessive hatred of Cullyhanna tonight eh Pints?  ::)

Good to see you showing your true colours, and not for the first time, a couple of posts back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 06, 2008, 08:23:15 PM
Quote
Good to see you showing your true colours, and not for the first time, a couple of posts back.

Sorry Pints for failing on your moral compass. I'll not sleep tonight now. ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nowyourtalking on June 06, 2008, 09:37:19 PM
Think Tacadoir is suffering from a bit of Arsene Wenger Syndrome  ;)

Only messing! I know I was wrong for rising to idiot comments from back of the net but cudnt help myself. 

On a different note, anyone know anything about the ruling on the middletown corrinshego game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 06, 2008, 09:44:04 PM
The 'bridge beat whitecross by two or three.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 07, 2008, 12:04:20 AM
Do Cross play their home games on silverbridge old or new pitch???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 07, 2008, 12:05:57 AM
The old one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 07, 2008, 08:25:44 AM
Tullysaran beat st Peters 3.10 til 0.07 last nite..... first game back on home ground in over a year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 07, 2008, 09:08:50 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on June 07, 2008, 08:25:44 AM
Tullysaran beat st Peters 3.10 til 0.07 last nite..... first game back on home ground in over a year.

Good stuff Hank.  Is this the start of winning ways?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 07, 2008, 09:48:53 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 06, 2008, 07:28:29 PM
I heard a rumour during the week that in a game between Tir na Nog and sarsfields u-14's, a young sarsfield lad was hit and knocked to the ground and the full forward continued to stamp repeatedly on his head. I heard the lad had to go for a brain scan and more treatment.

As i say this was a rumour. I have deliberately left it a few days just to see did anyone else mention it but it didn't prevail.
So now i am asking did anyone else hear of this???

dont know if this was the same incident winsam but was talking 2 a friend from portadown last night he said that there was a row at minor game last week.  direct quote "our minors where fighting again last week"  i asked what had happened and he said a couple of them had to go to hospital, then again he told me he shot a man when he was blocked one night! :D

i mind playing against them in u-16s if they beat us them and clann eireann played off 4 the league.we beat them by 2 points over there and our full forward who scored 1-9 got jumped by 3 of them in the car park.  Absolute pricks!  dont think they as bad at senior level, think when they are teenagers coz they are from garvaghy road they are hard men, hate them still though!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 07, 2008, 10:20:30 AM
Tough game next week against madden but i think we can definetly put a run together...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 07, 2008, 01:08:14 PM
Good to see the saran picking up a few well needed points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 08, 2008, 03:34:26 PM
Cross 0-14  Clans 2-08

I dont think the Clans posters will be complaining about Ollie Hearty today
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on June 08, 2008, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: crossfire on June 08, 2008, 03:34:26 PM
Cross 0-14  Clans 2-08

I dont think the Clans posters will be complaining about Ollie Hearty today

why what happened? was he crap?

i´d say both sides would have had weak enough sides out?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on June 08, 2008, 03:53:52 PM
Mullaghbawn 1-10
Og's 1-7

Good game though obviously og's without county men....two well needed points for us thou...another results lads from 2day's games??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on June 08, 2008, 04:08:14 PM
Ballymacnab 0.11 Newtown 0.13
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 08, 2008, 04:17:41 PM
cruppen beat tones by 7.tones forwards are brutal
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 08, 2008, 04:51:10 PM
St Pat's beat Harps 1-12 to 0-9. I'd say the Harps lads will be rueing their first half performance. They were far superior to us for the first 25 minutes but missed 5 or 6 scorable chances, as well one really good goal chance. Cullyhanna were very lucky to go in only a couple of points down. Paudies Mackin made a real difference when introduced late in the first half. We played some lovely stuff in the second to win fairly handy in the end though Harps also had a couple of goal chances in the second half which could have changed the game. 13 for Harps seemed to their danger man.

All in all, great to get the win, we were the team that took our chances and I thought we deserved for the way we played the second half. Eugene Casey got the goal after the Harp's keeper spilt the shot, he got a couple of points as well. Best for St Pat's were Casey, Paul Toner and Paudie Mackin. Kieran Nugent also did shockin well to get 2 points from play on his debut.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on June 08, 2008, 04:56:40 PM
Seriously good result for us considering the number of players who were out for various reasons. I counted up to 11 panellist who were unavailable. Agree that Paidi made the difference when introduced at full forward and gave us a good out ball for midfield and half back line which we were lacking early on. In saying that though the harps missed two goal chances but in fairness our midfield cleaned in the second half. Barry in particular caught some great balls. Eugene had a gret second half and i thought Mal did well when he came on even though he was playing on one leg.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 08, 2008, 05:27:33 PM
Best team won on the day, st pats deserve the 2points but this was a case of the harps not taking half there chances, could have had a few goals but probably wouldn have done justice.
very good referree :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on June 08, 2008, 05:49:46 PM
Maghery 0-10 Dromintee 1-12

Very good hard-working performance from Dromintee. I think Maghery needed to win this today to have any chance of playing Div 1 football next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on June 08, 2008, 06:18:00 PM
Any word on Killeavy and Cullaville?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 08, 2008, 08:19:22 PM
Crossfire idetect a little sarcasm in you're last post. I think this is because you know that Hearty di all within his power to ensure the clans were beat especially in the last ten mins. One of ou lads was taken out of it right in front of the goal ad he played on  :D :D classic. Then that clown of an umpire the cross put forward only seemed to have one arm and he was signalling everything wide.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 08, 2008, 08:27:07 PM
Ollie Hearty is a cheating ****, always was, always will be. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 08, 2008, 08:33:01 PM
QuoteOllie Hearty is a cheating ****, always was, always will be.

Pints, I hope you have hard evidence to back up your seriour allegation and I trust the Board Moderator is aware of this.

Title: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 08, 2008, 08:36:28 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on June 08, 2008, 08:33:01 PM
QuoteOllie Hearty is a cheating ****, always was, always will be.

Pints, I hope you have hard evidence to back up your seriour allegation and I trust the Board Moderator is aware of this.



Ok, I present, as evidence, every game he's ever refereed. 

What's the moderator got to do with anything?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on June 08, 2008, 10:07:01 PM
I saw else where that Killeavey won,but not 100 percent on that...if that is the case then three of the bottom 4teams in Div 1, got 2points 2day..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on June 08, 2008, 10:16:19 PM
Maghery are down, will be a battle to avoid the other spot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 08, 2008, 11:48:07 PM
st pats played very well today in the 2nd half got the ball in first time which they were not doing in the last 2 games.think st pats were missing 7 or so from the team that lined out against the harps in armagh so this cullyhanna team is young fit and a few years in the DIV 1 they should be one off the top 3 teams in armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 08, 2008, 11:51:39 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 08, 2008, 08:27:07 PM
Ollie Hearty is a cheating ****, always was, always will be. 

As is that b4stard ronon quigley
pints - you cant give sh1t for one ref and stick up for another c4nt ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on June 08, 2008, 11:54:21 PM
Quote from: back off the net on June 08, 2008, 11:48:07 PM
st pats played very well today in the 2nd half got the ball in first time which they were not doing in the last 2 games.think st pats were missing 7 or so from the team that lined out against the harps in armagh so this cullyhanna team is young fit and a few years in the DIV 1 they should be one off the top 3 teams in armagh

WTF
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on June 08, 2008, 11:58:45 PM
Tir na Nog won by 4 points today against granemore. It was a tight enough match but we seemed to have too much up front for them. They had a man sent off in the first half for two bookable offences but i don't think it affected the game.

And on the topic of the minor game last week, an incident did occur when one of our younger players kicked a sarsfields player (who had been running about the field like a lunatic) while he was on the ground. It was still the wrong thing to do and it looks like the player will get a lifetime ban. Saying that he repeatedly done it is an exaggeration to say the least but things like that shouldn't be tolerated at all!

Tir na nog for the league.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 09, 2008, 08:09:56 AM
Ballyhegan recovered from a slow start to beat local rivals Collegeland in Ballyhegan yesterday by a single point.

It was the best performance of the season to beat the league leaders.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 09, 2008, 08:18:50 AM
Taken from Orchard County Website

Wednesday 4 June

ACL – Division Three
Clonmore 1-5; Lissummon 1-5
Annaghmore 1-5; Madden 2-14

ACL – Division Four
Mullaghbrack 0-2; Shane O'Neill's 2-14


Friday 6 June

ACL – Division Two
Silverbridge 3-8; Whitecross 1-11

ACL – Division Three
Tullysaran 3-10; St Peter's 0-7


Saturday 7 June

ACL – Division Two
An Port Mor lost to Keady


Sunday 8 June

ACL – Division One
Maghery 0-10; Dromintee 1-12
Mullaghbawn 1-10; Pearse Og 1-7
Killeavey defeated Culloville
Crossmaglen 0-14; Clan na Gael 2-8
St Patrick's 1-12; Harps 0-9

ACL – Division Two
Wolfe Tones lost to Carrickcruppen
Tir na nÓg 0-13; Granemore 0-9
Clann Eireann 0-11; Sarsfields 1-13
Ballymacnab 0-11; St Michael's 0-13

ACL – Division Three
Crossmaglen II v Madden
Belleek v Grange
St Paul's 0-14; Clonmore 0-9
Lissummon v Annaghmore
Ballyhegan defeated Collegeland

ACL – Division Four
Clady v Corrinshego
Derrynoose 0-12; Shane O'Neill's 2-12
Dorsey Emmett's v Phelim Brady's
Eire Og 1-13; O'Hanlon's 1-5
Forkhill 2-10; Middletown 3-7
Bye – Mullaghbrack
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 09, 2008, 10:09:06 AM
Well pints i told you what Hearty was and i also told you full back about Quigley but remember your responses "it is only clans people who whinge about refs" I think you guys have just proved that it ain't.

On the Tir Na Nog incident, I was only posting what i heard about the incident and i was asking whether or not there was any truth in it. I put in "repeatedly kicking" and you say it was only one kick to a lads head when on the ground. Who cares one kick as you have said is perfectly deserved of a lifetime ban. It is wreckless aswell as being a total act of thuggery. This guy should be banned for life because if he is doing this at underage level what will he be like when he grows a set of goolies. If he ain't banned for life then it is a total disgrace. There is actually a strong possiblity that it could become a police matter as this is an act of GBH, but i doubt the lad in question would take these steps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 09, 2008, 11:13:01 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 09, 2008, 10:09:06 AM
Well pints i told you what Hearty was and i also told you full back about Quigley but remember your responses "it is only clans people who whinge about refs" I think you guys have just proved that it ain't.

On the Tir Na Nog incident, I was only posting what i heard about the incident and i was asking whether or not there was any truth in it. I put in "repeatedly kicking" and you say it was only one kick to a lads head when on the ground. Who cares one kick as you have said is perfectly deserved of a lifetime ban. It is wreckless aswell as being a total act of thuggery. This guy should be banned for life because if he is doing this at underage level what will he be like when he grows a set of goolies. If he ain't banned for life then it is a total disgrace. There is actually a strong possiblity that it could become a police matter as this is an act of GBH, but i doubt the lad in question would take these steps.

the police are involved WSW - yet anothe act of Portadown Thuggery- i was at the match and it was a brutal attack- apparently that wee thug is a black belt in karate- hence the potency of the kicks- ban the  whole club for life- it would do us all a favour
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 09, 2008, 11:14:20 AM
Jasus even when you say nothing you get slated from c**k noses. Mr Hearty done OK he made a few dodgy decisions for both sides and I've no problem with that, i don't care if the ref is poor or hasn't a clue as long as he's the same for the other team. "I don't want a good ref just a fair one will do"

The Clans game yesterday started off like a B match no hits and no intensity, but it livened up in the 2nd half. The no 12 for Cross looked good, a young fella that was very athletic and good on the ball and the usual John Mac had a good game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 09, 2008, 11:14:38 AM
GAA punter replace your p with a c in your name.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on June 09, 2008, 11:47:49 AM
Mullaghbawn are due to play dromintee on wednesday night i heard yesterday,are all club games Wed Night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 09, 2008, 12:03:02 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on June 09, 2008, 11:47:49 AM
Mullaghbawn are due to play dromintee on wednedday night i heard yesterday,are all club games Wed Night?

No most of them are on Friday night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 09, 2008, 12:10:44 PM
Well i know we play St Pat's on wed night in the league. But first up is our old friends the Wolfe Tones on tuesday night, that should be good craic. Always loved local derby games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 09, 2008, 12:30:02 PM
Friday night Real as far as I am aware.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 09, 2008, 12:49:18 PM
Quote from: corn02 on June 09, 2008, 11:14:38 AM
GAA punter replace your p with a c in your name.

Corn you are sum pup- clown i dont think thats a word - dumb dumb
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 09, 2008, 12:56:08 PM
Clans Cross match was a decent enough game - exiting near the end when both teams could have knicked it. A draw was prob a fair result though but it doesnt mean a whole pile id imagine as both sides had key players missing. Both teams had periods of dominance with the Clans ability to work goal opportunities threatening to be the decisive factor. However Cross dominance in midfield and ability to pick of points ultimately saw them with a share of the spoils. I dont care what anyone says this is still the match-up that gets me exited and I hope its these two clubs competing the county final with full strength teams. The County is crying out for a strong Clans team!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 09, 2008, 01:09:56 PM
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 8 JUNE 2008

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 9 7 2 0 16
Culloville 9 6 1 2 13
St Patrick's 10 6 0 4 12
Pearse Og 8 5 1 2 11
Mullaghbawn 7 4 1 4 9
Clan na Gael 10 3 3 4 9
Harps 9 3 2 4 8
Dromintee 9 3 1 5 7
Killeavey 8 2 0 6 4
Maghery 10 1 1 8 3

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Tir na nÓg 10 8 0 2 16
Sarsfields 10 7 1 2 15
St Michael's 10 7 0 3 14
Carrickcruppen 10 6 1 3 13
Clann Eireann 9 5 0 4 10
Silverbridge 10 5 0 5 10
Wolfe Tones 10 5 0 5 10
Granemore 9 4 0 5 8
Ballymacnab 10 3 1 6 7
An Port Mor 10 2 1 7 5
Keady 8 2 0 6 4
Whitecross 10 2 0 8 4

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Collegeland 10 8 0 2 16
Madden 9 7 1 1 15
St Paul's 10 7 1 2 15
Annaghmore 9 6 0 3 12
Belleek 9 5 1 3 11
Lissummon 9 3 3 3 9
Ballyhegan 9 4 0 5 8
St Peter's 9 4 0 5 8
Clonmore 9 2 2 5 6
Grange 10 2 1 7 5
Tullysaran 9 2 0 7 4
Crossmaglen II 8 0 1 7 1

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 9 8 1 0 17
Eire Og 9 6 1 2 13
Middletown 9 5 3 1 13
Forkhill 8 5 1 3 11
Derrynoose 9 5 0 4 10
Clady 9 3 2 4 8
O'Hanlon's 9 4 0 5 8
Corrinshego 8 3 1 4 7
Mullaghbrack 9 2 1 6 5
Dorsey Emmett's 8 2 0 6 4
Phelim Brady's 8 0 0 8 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 09, 2008, 02:12:57 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 09, 2008, 12:56:08 PM
Clans Cross match was a decent enough game - exiting near the end when both teams could have knicked it. A draw was prob a fair result though but it doesnt mean a whole pile id imagine as both sides had key players missing. Both teams had periods of dominance with the Clans ability to work goal opportunities threatening to be the decisive factor. However Cross dominance in midfield and ability to pick of points ultimately saw them with a share of the spoils. I dont care what anyone says this is still the match-up that gets me exited and I hope its these two clubs competing the county final with full strength teams. The County is crying out for a strong Clans team!

So is the clans ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on June 09, 2008, 02:18:05 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 09, 2008, 10:09:06 AM
Well pints i told you what Hearty was and i also told you full back about Quigley but remember your responses "it is only clans people who whinge about refs" I think you guys have just proved that it ain't.

On the Tir Na Nog incident, I was only posting what i heard about the incident and i was asking whether or not there was any truth in it. I put in "repeatedly kicking" and you say it was only one kick to a lads head when on the ground. Who cares one kick as you have said is perfectly deserved of a lifetime ban. It is wreckless aswell as being a total act of thuggery. This guy should be banned for life because if he is doing this at underage level what will he be like when he grows a set of goolies. If he ain't banned for life then it is a total disgrace. There is actually a strong possiblity that it could become a police matter as this is an act of GBH, but i doubt the lad in question would take these steps.

The whole club is in the same opinion that he won't kick another ball at the club. The weird thing is, it was totally out of character for the lad that done it but im afriad theres no second chances when something like that had happen. Its cowardly and it brings down the name of the club as a whole so theres no point in defending him..

Quote from: gaapunter on June 09, 2008, 11:13:01 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 09, 2008, 10:09:06 AM
Well pints i told you what Hearty was and i also told you full back about Quigley but remember your responses "it is only clans people who whinge about refs" I think you guys have just proved that it ain't.

On the Tir Na Nog incident, I was only posting what i heard about the incident and i was asking whether or not there was any truth in it. I put in "repeatedly kicking" and you say it was only one kick to a lads head when on the ground. Who cares one kick as you have said is perfectly deserved of a lifetime ban. It is wreckless aswell as being a total act of thuggery. This guy should be banned for life because if he is doing this at underage level what will he be like when he grows a set of goolies. If he ain't banned for life then it is a total disgrace. There is actually a strong possiblity that it could become a police matter as this is an act of GBH, but i doubt the lad in question would take these steps.

the police are involved WSW - yet anothe act of Portadown Thuggery- i was at the match and it was a brutal attack- apparently that wee thug is a black belt in karate- hence the potency of the kicks- ban the  whole club for life- it would do us all a favour

Another act of Portadown thuggery? You care to explain what you meant by that statement. If its to do with fighting on a field then im afraid your mistaken. Ive been going to games for years and violence on the field from our team is no more than any other team in the county..

On the second note about the karate, thats the biggest pile of balls ive read on this forum! The lad hasn't been in a fight in his life no doubt and your saying hes the karate kid. Hope you have facts to back up these accusations.

Back to the point though, he wont be playing again for the club and i doubt no-one else will take him after that incident.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on June 09, 2008, 03:12:16 PM
Quote from: pdown79 on June 09, 2008, 02:18:05 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 09, 2008, 10:09:06 AM
Well pints i told you what Hearty was and i also told you full back about Quigley but remember your responses "it is only clans people who whinge about refs" I think you guys have just proved that it ain't.

On the Tir Na Nog incident, I was only posting what i heard about the incident and i was asking whether or not there was any truth in it. I put in "repeatedly kicking" and you say it was only one kick to a lads head when on the ground. Who cares one kick as you have said is perfectly deserved of a lifetime ban. It is wreckless aswell as being a total act of thuggery. This guy should be banned for life because if he is doing this at underage level what will he be like when he grows a set of goolies. If he ain't banned for life then it is a total disgrace. There is actually a strong possiblity that it could become a police matter as this is an act of GBH, but i doubt the lad in question would take these steps.

The whole club is in the same opinion that he won't kick another ball at the club. The weird thing is, it was totally out of character for the lad that done it but im afriad theres no second chances when something like that had happen. Its cowardly and it brings down the name of the club as a whole so theres no point in defending him..

Quote from: gaapunter on June 09, 2008, 11:13:01 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 09, 2008, 10:09:06 AM
Well pints i told you what Hearty was and i also told you full back about Quigley but remember your responses "it is only clans people who whinge about refs" I think you guys have just proved that it ain't.

On the Tir Na Nog incident, I was only posting what i heard about the incident and i was asking whether or not there was any truth in it. I put in "repeatedly kicking" and you say it was only one kick to a lads head when on the ground. Who cares one kick as you have said is perfectly deserved of a lifetime ban. It is wreckless aswell as being a total act of thuggery. This guy should be banned for life because if he is doing this at underage level what will he be like when he grows a set of goolies. If he ain't banned for life then it is a total disgrace. There is actually a strong possiblity that it could become a police matter as this is an act of GBH, but i doubt the lad in question would take these steps.

the police are involved WSW - yet anothe act of Portadown Thuggery- i was at the match and it was a brutal attack- apparently that wee thug is a black belt in karate- hence the potency of the kicks- ban the  whole club for life- it would do us all a favour

Another act of Portadown thuggery? You care to explain what you meant by that statement. If its to do with fighting on a field then im afraid your mistaken. Ive been going to games for years and violence on the field from our team is no more than any other team in the county..

On the second note about the karate, thats the biggest pile of balls ive read on this forum! The lad hasn't been in a fight in his life no doubt and your saying hes the karate kid. Hope you have facts to back up these accusations.

Back to the point though, he wont be playing again for the club and i doubt no-one else will take him after that incident.

Mr My-ogie Might be interested  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wherefromreferee? on June 09, 2008, 03:19:43 PM
BTK, its Mr Kesuke Miyagi (RIP)

Anyways, we shouldnt be making light of this very serious situation...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 09, 2008, 03:37:20 PM
Cullyhanna fully deserving of their win against Harps, we could have been out of sight by half time, if we'd had our shooting boots with us, someone taking stats told me we'd 12 wides in the first half alone.  We made a few changes in the second half that backfired badly, Kevin Daly at WHB was having a blinder and then inexplicably moved to corner back and ten mins later to the sideline.  We got cleaned out in Mf in the 2nd half and that ultimately cost us the game. 

Hopefully we'll have a few more available to us for Friday night, apart from our 3 county men we were missing 5 or 6 others that should start come championship.  Joe Quigley, Ebby Toal, Paddy Grimes, Sean Morrison, Paddy Morrison and Simon Lennon (Also  Peadar Toal - who I hear should be back in training soon).



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 09, 2008, 03:47:35 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 09, 2008, 03:37:20 PM
(Also  Peadar Toal - who I hear should be back in training soon).

What's the story with Peader? Seen him out at the Bullets last week end...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on June 09, 2008, 07:02:22 PM
QuoteWhat's the story with Peader? Seen him out at the Bullets last week end...

Why didn't you just ask him ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 09, 2008, 07:19:54 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on June 09, 2008, 12:49:18 PM
Quote from: corn02 on June 09, 2008, 11:14:38 AM
GAA punter replace your p with a c in your name.

Corn you are sum pup- clown i dont think thats a word - dumb dumb

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 09, 2008, 09:59:57 PM
QuoteOllie Hearty is a cheating ****, always was, always will be.

A completely unfair and unjustified rant. Ollie's a decent fellas and any of the games I played in or watched I always found him reasonable enough. Ok maybe he's no Pat McEneany and a bit over fussy but to call him a cheat is way over the top.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 09, 2008, 10:27:22 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 09, 2008, 09:59:57 PM
QuoteOllie Hearty is a cheating ****, always was, always will be.

A completely unfair and unjustified rant. Ollie's a decent fellas and any of the games I played in or watched I always found him reasonable enough. Ok maybe he's no Pat McEneany and a bit over fussy but to call him a cheat is way over the top.

He's a cheat.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 09, 2008, 11:12:45 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 09, 2008, 10:27:22 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 09, 2008, 09:59:57 PM
QuoteOllie Hearty is a cheating ****, always was, always will be.

A completely unfair and unjustified rant. Ollie's a decent fellas and any of the games I played in or watched I always found him reasonable enough. Ok maybe he's no Pat McEneany and a bit over fussy but to call him a cheat is way over the top.

He's a cheat.

I can't disagree with pints on this one. its not a decent game in his eyes unless he decides the outcome
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 10, 2008, 07:49:58 AM
Quote from: Louis the Red on June 09, 2008, 07:02:22 PM
QuoteWhat's the story with Peader? Seen him out at the Bullets last week end...

Why didn't you just ask him ??? ???

I was trying to drive through the feckers!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 10, 2008, 10:52:55 AM
We must all be wrong then because from what i can see the majority of posters think Hearty is a clown.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 10, 2008, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 09, 2008, 10:27:22 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 09, 2008, 09:59:57 PM
QuoteOllie Hearty is a cheating ****, always was, always will be.

A completely unfair and unjustified rant. Ollie's a decent fellas and any of the games I played in or watched I always found him reasonable enough. Ok maybe he's no Pat McEneany and a bit over fussy but to call him a cheat is way over the top.

He's a cheat.

Pints, how would you like Ollie to come on this board and call you a "fat, bald middle aged cheating ****". And correct me if im wrong but you don't reside here anymore so do you actually know anything about Mr Hearty's current refeering displays other than hearing it from footballers on the board. I can guess you are a keyboard footballer who never kicked a size 5 but could tell everyone else how to do it ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 10, 2008, 11:14:11 AM
ACL – Division One (8.00)

Clan na Gael v St Patrick's (Mickey Leonard)
Culloville v Crossmaglen (Dessie McDonnell)
Harps v Killeavey (Sean McClatchey)
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn (Paul Boylan)
Pearse Og v Maghery (Jim Burns)

Any predictions??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 10, 2008, 11:20:51 AM

Whoever realises first between harps and killeavy not to breath a word from whistle to whistle will win...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 10, 2008, 11:44:58 AM
That answers the question then of whether or not mc clatchey is still going. :D

Does anyone know who the management of the maghery senior team are????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on June 10, 2008, 12:30:28 PM
Quote from: Candyman on June 10, 2008, 11:14:11 AM
ACL – Division One (8.00)

Clan na Gael v St Patrick's (Mickey Leonard)
Culloville v Crossmaglen (Dessie McDonnell)
Harps v Killeavey (Sean McClatchey)
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn (Paul Boylan)
Pearse Og v Maghery (Jim Burns)

Any predictions??


mickey leonard to send someone off

apart from that
clans  ;)
culloville
harps
draw
ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 10, 2008, 02:06:06 PM
Quote from: Candyman on June 10, 2008, 11:14:11 AM
ACL – Division One (8.00)

Clan na Gael v St Patrick's (Mickey Leonard)
Culloville v Crossmaglen (Dessie McDonnell)
Harps v Killeavey (Sean McClatchey)
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn (Paul Boylan)
Pearse Og v Maghery (Jim Burns)

Any predictions??


Clans
Cross
Harps
Dromintee (hardest one to predict)
Ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 10, 2008, 03:54:31 PM
Cullyhanna
Cross
Killeavy
Mullaghbawn
Maghery
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 10, 2008, 04:38:46 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 10, 2008, 02:06:06 PM
Quote from: Candyman on June 10, 2008, 11:14:11 AM
ACL – Division One (8.00)

Clan na Gael v St Patrick's (Mickey Leonard)
Culloville v Crossmaglen (Dessie McDonnell)
Harps v Killeavey (Sean McClatchey)
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn (Paul Boylan)
Pearse Og v Maghery (Jim Burns)

Any predictions??


Clans
Cross
Killeavey
Dromintee
Ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 10, 2008, 05:02:00 PM
How can you justify calling Ollie that pints, yet if someone says anything about your fellow clubman and his displays you leap to his defence ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 10, 2008, 05:18:43 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 10, 2008, 03:54:31 PM
Cullyhanna
Cross
Killeavy
Mullaghbawn
Maghery

IVEDECIDED the man with no club. Your predictions are interesting i shall wait till next week till i take the middle out of you
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 10, 2008, 05:33:49 PM
Cant wait son.  ;D
Title: .
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 10, 2008, 06:53:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 10, 2008, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 09, 2008, 10:27:22 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 09, 2008, 09:59:57 PM
QuoteOllie Hearty is a cheating ****, always was, always will be.

A completely unfair and unjustified rant. Ollie's a decent fellas and any of the games I played in or watched I always found him reasonable enough. Ok maybe he's no Pat McEneany and a bit over fussy but to call him a cheat is way over the top.

He's a cheat.

Pints, how would you like Ollie to come on this board and call you a "fat, bald middle aged cheating ****". And correct me if im wrong but you don't reside here anymore so do you actually know anything about Mr Hearty's current refeering displays other than hearing it from footballers on the board. I can guess you are a keyboard footballer who never kicked a size 5 but could tell everyone else how to do it ::) ::)

He can come on and say what he wants about me, I couldn't give a shite. 
And No I'm not around home anymore but I think I've seen enough of Hearty over the last number of years to be able to comment on him. 
The rest of your remarks aren't even worth answering  ::)

btw, considering the things you've said about Quigley you've a brass neck to try and pull me up on anything I say about any referee.

fullback
QuoteHow can you justify calling Ollie that pints, yet if someone says anything about your fellow clubman and his displays you leap to his defence
I can justify it because it's how I see it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 10, 2008, 11:22:34 PM
st pats are away to lurgan sat night think they will give clans a game off it.cullyhanna are a very young team to be in DIV 1.just want to wish ciaran and liam all the best for sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 10, 2008, 11:42:15 PM
that ref gary smith is a clown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on June 10, 2008, 11:52:54 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 10, 2008, 03:54:31 PM
Cullyhanna
Cross
Killeavy
Mullaghbawn
Maghery

big odds for 5 Away wins. 1000/1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 10, 2008, 11:59:42 PM
That's because it ain't going to happen fcuksake

Clans
Culloville
Harps
Dromintee (Draw)
Ogs

Are all the games now on saturday night???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on June 11, 2008, 12:29:00 AM
Could someone take Back Off (sic) the net aside and explain to him/her/it the subtle difference between the words 'Of' and 'Off'. 

One is a preposition
of
prep.

from, out of, out from, away from, proceeding from, coming from, going from, about, concerning, as concerns, pertaining to, appertaining to, peculiar to, attributed to, characterized by, regarding, as regards, in regard to, referring to, in reference to, appropriate to, like, belonging to, related to, having relation to, native to, consequent to, based on, akin to, consanguineous to, connected with; see also about 2.

eg - Cullyhanna are a pack OF knuckle draggers

While the other is an Adverb

off¹ Definition off (ôf, äf)

adverb

so as to be or keep away, at a distance, to a side, etc. to move off, to ward off
so as to be measured, divided, etc. to pace off, to mark off
so as to be no longer on, attached, united, covering, in contact, etc. take off your hat, the paint wore off
(a specified distance) away:
in space a town ten miles off
in time a date two weeks off

eg - I wish Back Off (sic) the net would f**k off back to his/her/its cave where he/she/it belongs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 11, 2008, 08:31:32 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 10, 2008, 11:59:42 PM
That's because it ain't going to happen fullback

Clans
Culloville
Harps
Dromintee (Draw)
Ogs

Are all the games now on saturday night???

As far as I know the Ogs Maghery game is on friday night.  haven't heard any different yet anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 11, 2008, 10:04:34 AM
Our game with St Pat's was down for fri and then got changed to saturday. At the start of the year the games were on a saturday until certain folk threw the toys out of the pram and got them all changed.

Good to see them back on saturdays
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 11, 2008, 10:15:20 AM
Harps V Killeavy is Fri Nite also with Sam the Man in charge...  ;D
Title: Re: .
Post by: illdecide on June 11, 2008, 12:00:03 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 10, 2008, 06:53:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 10, 2008, 10:56:28 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 09, 2008, 10:27:22 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 09, 2008, 09:59:57 PM
QuoteOllie Hearty is a cheating ****, always was, always will be.

A completely unfair and unjustified rant. Ollie's a decent fellas and any of the games I played in or watched I always found him reasonable enough. Ok maybe he's no Pat McEneany and a bit over fussy but to call him a cheat is way over the top.

He's a cheat.

Pints, how would you like Ollie to come on this board and call you a "fat, bald middle aged cheating ****". And correct me if im wrong but you don't reside here anymore so do you actually know anything about Mr Hearty's current refeering displays other than hearing it from footballers on the board. I can guess you are a keyboard footballer who never kicked a size 5 but could tell everyone else how to do it ::) ::)

He can come on and say what he wants about me, I couldn't give a shite. 
And No I'm not around home anymore but I think I've seen enough of Hearty over the last number of years to be able to comment on him. 
The rest of your remarks aren't even worth answering  ::)

btw, considering the things you've said about Quigley you've a brass neck to try and pull me up on anything I say about any referee.

fullback
QuoteHow can you justify calling Ollie that pints, yet if someone says anything about your fellow clubman and his displays you leap to his defence
I can justify it because it's how I see it.

O there is a big difference between that twat Quigley and Ollie Hearty, Hearty may not be a good ref but at least he's not out on a power trip every time he goes on the field. Quigley couldn't be a footballer and obviously got bullied at some stage of his miserable life so he decides to take up refeering so he can get his own back on a few guys who slapped him about when he was a child. I told you before if Quigley spoke to people on the street the way he does on a pitch he'd recieve another few of those beatings he got when he was younger...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 11, 2008, 12:15:58 PM
Quote from: Seany on June 11, 2008, 12:29:00 AM
Could someone take Back Off (sic) the net aside and explain to him/her/it the subtle difference between the words 'Of' and 'Off'. 

One is a preposition
of
prep.

from, out of, out from, away from, proceeding from, coming from, going from, about, concerning, as concerns, pertaining to, appertaining to, peculiar to, attributed to, characterized by, regarding, as regards, in regard to, referring to, in reference to, appropriate to, like, belonging to, related to, having relation to, native to, consequent to, based on, akin to, consanguineous to, connected with; see also about 2.

eg - Cullyhanna are a pack OF knuckle draggers

While the other is an Adverb

off¹ Definition off (ôf, äf)

adverb

so as to be or keep away, at a distance, to a side, etc. to move off, to ward off
so as to be measured, divided, etc. to pace off, to mark off
so as to be no longer on, attached, united, covering, in contact, etc. take off your hat, the paint wore off
(a specified distance) away:
in space a town ten miles off
in time a date two weeks off

eg - I wish Back Off (sic) the net would f**k off back to his/her/its cave where he/she/it belongs.



Here Seany Fcuk OFF to the countdown forum if your gonna be like that! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 11, 2008, 02:28:37 PM
De dum de dum dee dee dee dum............. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on June 11, 2008, 03:19:49 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on June 10, 2008, 11:52:54 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 10, 2008, 03:54:31 PM
Cullyhanna
Cross
Killeavy
Mullaghbawn
Maghery

big odds for 5 Away wins. 1000/1
Well i'll take those odds!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 11, 2008, 04:11:49 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on June 11, 2008, 03:19:49 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on June 10, 2008, 11:52:54 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 10, 2008, 03:54:31 PM
Cullyhanna
Cross
Killeavy
Mullaghbawn
Maghery

big odds for 5 Away wins. 1000/1
Well i'll take those odds!

at that price it could be rigged  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 11, 2008, 05:09:12 PM
doire im sure hughes in camlough will give you similar odds if you asked them nicely!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2008, 07:05:32 PM
illdecide
Quote
O there is a big difference between that twat Quigley and Ollie Hearty, Hearty may not be a good ref but at least he's not out on a power trip every time he goes on the field. Quigley couldn't be a footballer and obviously got bullied at some stage of his miserable life so he decides to take up refeering so he can get his own back on a few guys who slapped him about when he was a child. I told you before if Quigley spoke to people on the street the way he does on a pitch he'd recieve another few of those beatings he got when he was younger...

See, you are in no position to object to what anyone says about a ref.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 11, 2008, 10:34:51 PM
could any one tell me how many bridge players are on the armagh team for sunday ha ha what a bunch off w**ks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ONeill on June 11, 2008, 10:52:36 PM
Who's the boyo from Portydown who got 2 year suspension for a head-kick?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on June 11, 2008, 11:32:10 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 11, 2008, 04:11:49 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on June 11, 2008, 03:19:49 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on June 10, 2008, 11:52:54 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 10, 2008, 03:54:31 PM
Cullyhanna
Cross
Killeavy
Mullaghbawn
Maghery

big odds for 5 Away wins. 1000/1
Well i'll take those odds!

at that price it could be rigged  ;D

we are not the Irish League :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 12, 2008, 09:07:40 AM
Quote from: ONeill on June 11, 2008, 10:52:36 PM
Who's the boyo from Portydown who got 2 year suspension for a head-kick?

Tir Na Nog player, not sure of his name.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 12, 2008, 09:11:52 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2008, 07:05:32 PM
illdecide
Quote
O there is a big difference between that twat Quigley and Ollie Hearty, Hearty may not be a good ref but at least he's not out on a power trip every time he goes on the field. Quigley couldn't be a footballer and obviously got bullied at some stage of his miserable life so he decides to take up refeering so he can get his own back on a few guys who slapped him about when he was a child. I told you before if Quigley spoke to people on the street the way he does on a pitch he'd recieve another few of those beatings he got when he was younger...

See, you are in no position to object to what anyone says about a ref.

You're arrogant like him Pints. R u sure you're not related to him...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on June 12, 2008, 09:30:21 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on June 11, 2008, 05:09:12 PM
doire im sure hughes in camlough will give you similar odds if you asked them nicely!

Oh, look who's back!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on June 12, 2008, 09:37:51 AM
Quote from: back off the net on June 11, 2008, 10:34:51 PM
could any one tell me how many bridge players are on the armagh team for sunday ha ha what a bunch off w**ks

Just another bit of grammar advice, Back Off (sic) The Net. 

Always start a sentence with a capital letter. Question mark after the word 'Sunday'. 'Armagh' being a proper noun should begin with a capital letter, as should 'Sunday', also being a proper noun. T'Brodge' is a shortened version of Silverbridge (I presume), so it shoild have an apostrophe showing this ('bridge). Then a capital letter for 'Ha ha', followed by a comma and maybe an exclamation mark at the end if you feel excited by what you've just written.

PS - You still haven't taken my advice on the word 'Of' as opposed to the word 'Off'.  It's 'Of' in this case. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 12, 2008, 09:40:26 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 12, 2008, 09:37:51 AM
Quote from: back off the net on June 11, 2008, 10:34:51 PM
could any one tell me how many bridge players are on the armagh team for sunday ha ha what a bunch off w**ks

Just another bit of grammar advice, Back Off (sic) The Net. 

Always start a sentence with a capital letter. Question mark after the word 'Sunday'. 'Armagh' being a proper noun should begin with a capital letter, as should 'Sunday', also being a proper noun. T'Brodge' is a shortened version of Silverbridge (I presume), so it shoild have an apostrophe showing this ('bridge). Then a capital letter for 'Ha ha', followed by a comma and maybe an exclamation mark at the end if you feel excited by what you've just written.

PS - You still haven't taken my advice on the word 'Of' as opposed to the word 'Off'.  It's 'Of' in this case. 


Quality....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 12, 2008, 09:41:33 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 12, 2008, 09:37:51 AM
Quote from: back off the net on June 11, 2008, 10:34:51 PM
could any one tell me how many bridge players are on the armagh team for sunday ha ha what a bunch off w**ks

Just another bit of grammar advice, Back Off (sic) The Net. 

Always start a sentence with a capital letter. Question mark after the word 'Sunday'. 'Armagh' being a proper noun should begin with a capital letter, as should 'Sunday', also being a proper noun. T'Brodge' is a shortened version of Silverbridge (I presume), so it shoild have an apostrophe showing this ('bridge). Then a capital letter for 'Ha ha', followed by a comma and maybe an exclamation mark at the end if you feel excited by what you've just written.

PS - You still haven't taken my advice on the word 'Of' as opposed to the word 'Off'.  It's 'Of' in this case. 

I'd have a read over that!  ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 12, 2008, 11:21:07 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 12, 2008, 09:37:51 AM
PS - You still haven't taken my advice on the word 'Of' as opposed to the word 'Off'.  It's 'Of' in this case. 

Maybe he's conveying that he's returning from a period of living on a net?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 12, 2008, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 12, 2008, 09:11:52 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2008, 07:05:32 PM
illdecide
Quote
O there is a big difference between that twat Quigley and Ollie Hearty, Hearty may not be a good ref but at least he's not out on a power trip every time he goes on the field. Quigley couldn't be a footballer and obviously got bullied at some stage of his miserable life so he decides to take up refeering so he can get his own back on a few guys who slapped him about when he was a child. I told you before if Quigley spoke to people on the street the way he does on a pitch he'd recieve another few of those beatings he got when he was younger...

See, you are in no position to object to what anyone says about a ref.

You're arrogant like him Pints. R u sure you're not related to him...

Slabber Slabber
You're a Clans Man alright

;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 12, 2008, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: ONeill on June 11, 2008, 10:52:36 PM
Who's the boyo from Portydown who got 2 year suspension for a head-kick?
his name is mullholland i think,wat i hear he shouldve got a life ban,kicked a player on the head who was on the ground.then ran to another plyer who was in the field fight and kick out at him to before running.this is the fourth tir na nog minor to get red carded in 2 games,they had 3 sent off the week b4 1 got sent off b4 the game(headbutted his man b4 the throw in)and the team are still not punished which is a joke.oh and by the way another of this fighting team got sent off for headbutting in a b championship game 2 days after the kicking thing happened. good bunch of lads.....................................................NOT......................................................................
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on June 12, 2008, 07:57:42 PM
Great use of text speak there. Admittedly, I did not witness the incident but i think a two year ban is punishment enough. It would be a travesty to ban a young man for life from the sport without the option of a second chance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on June 12, 2008, 08:33:36 PM
u21 final now down for the 6th of july, not the 5th!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 12, 2008, 09:17:42 PM
Under 16 Championship.

Cross 3-14  Shane O' Neills 1-09.

Shanes won the corresponding league game last week by 10 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nowyourtalking on June 12, 2008, 09:30:57 PM
Crossfire, were you at the match?  Were Shanes ever close to Cross? That's a very disapointing result from a Shane's view...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 12, 2008, 10:22:17 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on June 12, 2008, 07:57:42 PM
Great use of text speak there. Admittedly, I did not witness the incident but i think a two year ban is punishment enough. It would be a travesty to ban a young man for life from the sport without the option of a second chance.

Surely if the boy had to go for a brain scan as reported it was far too lenient?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 12, 2008, 10:30:05 PM
Actually thinking about it two years is probably slightly lenient but in the right ball park. Lifetime would be extreme.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: aidanmcg33 on June 12, 2008, 10:35:25 PM
Anyone know the result of the Silverbridge Sarsfields match tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 12, 2008, 10:41:27 PM
Quote from: aidanmcg33 on June 12, 2008, 10:35:25 PM
Anyone know the result of the Silverbridge Sarsfields match tonight?

Just heard, we were beat by a couple of points. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on June 12, 2008, 10:43:31 PM
Quote from: nowyourtalking on June 12, 2008, 09:30:57 PM
Crossfire, were you at the match?  Were Shanes ever close to Cross? That's a very disapointing result from a Shane's view...
thats the shane's  feile team from a few years ago ain't it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 12, 2008, 10:55:27 PM
Cross were playing against the breeze in the first half but got 2 goals in the first 10 mins to go 8-2 up. Shanes fought back and were only 2 behind at the break

They closed the gap to 1 after about 10 mins but then Cross got their 3rd goal and pulled away after that to win comfortably in the end
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 12, 2008, 11:10:07 PM
Quote from: crossfire on June 12, 2008, 09:17:42 PM
Under 16 Championship.

Cross 3-14  Shane O' Neills 1-09.

Shanes won the corresponding league game last week by 10 points.

think the league result was due to the wily crossmaglen management fielding a somewhat understrength team knowing the championship was coming this week.

why is the u21 final changed?? havent heard anything about that..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ONeill on June 12, 2008, 11:11:45 PM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2008, 10:34:19 PM
What happened?
If it's a case of some lad lying on the ground and this cnut runs over and boots him in the head, then he shouldn't be on a pitch ever again.

Like Sambo....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nowyourtalking on June 12, 2008, 11:54:05 PM
Quote from: crossfire on June 12, 2008, 10:55:27 PM
Cross were playing against the breeze in the first half but got 2 goals in the first 10 mins to go 8-2 up. Shanes fought back and were only 2 behind at the break

They closed the gap to 1 after about 10 mins but then Cross got their 3rd goal and pulled away after that to win comfortably in the end

Absolutely raging with that result.  Cudnt get up to watch it cause of work.  Was expecting big things from this team this year especially cause there's a lot of talent from feile teams coming through.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 13, 2008, 10:12:54 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 12, 2008, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 12, 2008, 09:11:52 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2008, 07:05:32 PM
illdecide
Quote
O there is a big difference between that twat Quigley and Ollie Hearty, Hearty may not be a good ref but at least he's not out on a power trip every time he goes on the field. Quigley couldn't be a footballer and obviously got bullied at some stage of his miserable life so he decides to take up refeering so he can get his own back on a few guys who slapped him about when he was a child. I told you before if Quigley spoke to people on the street the way he does on a pitch he'd recieve another few of those beatings he got when he was younger...

See, you are in no position to object to what anyone says about a ref.

You're arrogant like him Pints. R u sure you're not related to him...

Slabber Slabber
You're a Clans Man alright

;)

[Deleted]
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Broken_Cross on June 13, 2008, 10:38:18 AM
Quote from: hardstation on June 12, 2008, 10:34:19 PM
What happened?
If it's a case of some lad lying on the ground and this cnut runs over and boots him in the head, then he shouldn't be on a pitch ever again.

shouldnt there be a life time ban for any cnut that throws a punch?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on June 13, 2008, 11:42:54 AM
if that was the case then there would be few players around
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 13, 2008, 12:31:28 PM
No common sense most prevail but in the Tir Na Nog incident a lifetime ban ie required. No thug should be allowed back onto a gaelic field if he kicks someone on the head whilst they are lying on the ground. Especially when they are doing it at underage. What will he be like when his taws drop.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 13, 2008, 12:37:06 PM
But that is exactly DnR point. If it is a lifetime ban we will never know if he regrest his mistake. Five years could be sufficent and maybe a bit harsh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on June 13, 2008, 01:00:52 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 13, 2008, 12:31:28 PM
No common sense most prevail but in the Tir Na Nog incident a lifetime ban ie required. No thug should be allowed back onto a gaelic field if he kicks someone on the head whilst they are lying on the ground. Especially when they are doing it at underage. What will he be like when his taws drop.

He might just get a two year ban but i seriously think he'll have to join another cluib as i doubt tir na nog will let him back. However, the young fella who got the kick was no saint either. He was rrunning about the field battering people and there mjst have been 5 off the ball incidents involving him. Him and the "accused" were fighting,he got knocked to the ground and the boot followed. Typical of a dirty streetfight and theres no place for it on a pitch in the GAA or any other sport mind you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Broken_Cross on June 13, 2008, 01:32:27 PM
Quote from: pdown79 on June 13, 2008, 01:00:52 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 13, 2008, 12:31:28 PM
No common sense most prevail but in the Tir Na Nog incident a lifetime ban ie required. No thug should be allowed back onto a gaelic field if he kicks someone on the head whilst they are lying on the ground. Especially when they are doing it at underage. What will he be like when his taws drop.

He might just get a two year ban but i seriously think he'll have to join another cluib as i doubt tir na nog will let him back. However, the young fella who got the kick was no saint either. He was rrunning about the field battering people and there mjst have been 5 off the ball incidents involving him. Him and the "accused" were fighting,he got knocked to the ground and the boot followed. Typical of a dirty streetfight and theres no place for it on a pitch in the GAA or any other sport mind you.


so what length of ban did the other guy get?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 13, 2008, 02:02:56 PM
Corn i am not interested whether five years down the line he feels sorry for what he did. My concern is for the safety of other players especially the lad that took the boot to the face. I don't see why the GAA should go out of it's way to accomodate a guy who carried out this act of thuggery. The lad in question doesn't deserve any other chances IMO. Maybe that is just me but very rarely does a leopard change it's spots.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 13, 2008, 02:24:44 PM
If murderers get a second chance when getting out of jail surely somewere in the five year region is suitable. Young and stupid, hopefully he will grow and regret his actions and if he does, wouldn't it be a shame if he NEVER got the chance to play again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 13, 2008, 02:44:28 PM


A lifetime ban is 96 weeks under GAA rules
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on June 13, 2008, 04:41:48 PM
My point is, when deciding on punishment we must be rational. Firstly, punishment should not be affected in anyway by the victims injuries. Who should be punished more severely, a player who kicks a another in the head while lying on the ground but the victim suffers no injury, or a player who shoulders another in the chest and the victim suffers serious lung injuries and complications and dies? A big part of the gaa is to give young people some structure and discipline, not to just abandon them because they have made a mistake.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on June 13, 2008, 09:47:32 PM
Any results from 2nights games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 13, 2008, 09:59:29 PM
Division 1

Cross beat Cullaville 3-17 to 3-03
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on June 13, 2008, 10:06:26 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on June 13, 2008, 09:47:32 PM
Any results from 2nights games?
cruppen beat an port mor not sure the score tho
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on June 13, 2008, 10:10:03 PM

Quote from: mousey on June 13, 2008, 10:06:26 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on June 13, 2008, 09:47:32 PM
Any results from 2nights games?
cruppen beat an port mor not sure the score tho



it Was 1-6 to 0-3 to cruppen at ht, but i left. Had seen enough  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on June 13, 2008, 10:20:55 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on June 13, 2008, 10:10:03 PM

Quote from: mousey on June 13, 2008, 10:06:26 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on June 13, 2008, 09:47:32 PM
Any results from 2nights games?
cruppen beat an port mor not sure the score tho



it Was 1-6 to 0-3 to cruppen at ht, but i left. Had seen enough  >:(
were uze bad or cruppen good????............................shanes beat dorsey emmets lookin like div 3 for shanes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on June 13, 2008, 10:25:43 PM
think we had 9 wides and hit the crossbar. Cruppens goal was very fortunate. Miss hit free. Both the goalkepper and corner back left it for each other and the ball rolled into the net. But take nothin away from cruppen great forwards and very strong defence. Should be pushing for promotion
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on June 13, 2008, 11:36:22 PM
Harps beat at home by Killeavy

Disgraceful performance, one to forget. All im gona say.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 13, 2008, 11:47:20 PM
granemore beat tones by 2 goal by jason o neill with last kick won it 4 them.looking over the shoulder now :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 14, 2008, 01:43:30 AM
Them nine aways are in with a sweat
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 14, 2008, 07:57:56 AM
Ogs and Maghery Drew 1-4   1-4

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 14, 2008, 08:15:40 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 14, 2008, 07:57:56 AM
Ogs and Maghery Drew 1-4   1-4


sounds like £3 well spent!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 14, 2008, 09:24:07 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 14, 2008, 08:15:40 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 14, 2008, 07:57:56 AM
Ogs and Maghery Drew 1-4   1-4


sounds like £3 well spent!

Terrible game.  Maghery were 1-4 to 1-1 up at the break.  Our finishing was brutal but our defence done well, maghery didn't even score in the second half.  I wouldn't have liked to be standing in the crowd watching it that's for sure
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on June 14, 2008, 10:49:54 AM
Dromintee 1-06
Mullaghbawn 1-12

Referee was an absolute disgrace for both teams, some fella boylan...its really ha got to the point now where GAA gas become an non-contact sport... in relation to game Mullaghbawn lead from start to finish..Dromintee scored a late penalty...Dromintee look set to struggle without their county players..they were prob about 7 short last nite..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 14, 2008, 11:47:08 AM
Tullysaran drew with madden, we led the game by 6 with 10 mins to go and ended up lucky madden missed a sitter at the end or we cudda came away with nothin...
Still feels like a point dropped however things are moving in the right direction.... at the right time ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 14, 2008, 11:52:10 AM
Any uptodate tables out there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 14, 2008, 11:53:17 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on June 14, 2008, 11:47:08 AM
Tullysaran drew with madden, we led the game by 6 with 10 mins to go and ended up lucky madden missed a sitter at the end or we cudda came away with nothin...
Still feels like a point dropped however things are moving in the right direction.... at the right time ;)

You're a Sick B**tid.  you should be suppin sangria instead of nosying about here!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 14, 2008, 02:36:23 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 10, 2008, 05:18:43 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 10, 2008, 03:54:31 PM
Cullyhanna
Cross
Killeavy
Mullaghbawn
Maghery

IVEDECIDED the man with no club. Your predictions are interesting i shall wait till next week till i take the middle out of you


Id just like to draw attention to some of the ingenious predictions made by my good self - had Maghery held on for a win id say that was the most unbelievable set of predictions ever made! Come on St. Pats! ;D ;D ;D Ill just go now and buy a lotto ticket..........!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 14, 2008, 02:37:23 PM
Looks like my middle is going to live to fight another day son! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pdown79 on June 15, 2008, 12:05:31 AM
The lad in question got a 96 week ban for the kick to the head incident.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 15, 2008, 01:45:19 PM
clans destroyed St Pat's 2-13 to 0-06. You might want to put them lotto hopes on hold ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on June 15, 2008, 08:14:57 PM
Anyone know why Kieran McGeeny is in hospital?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 15, 2008, 10:07:56 PM
Quoteclans destroyed St Pat's 2-13 to 0-06. You might want to put them lotto hopes on hold

Shocking performance from Cullyhanna. Absolutely outclassed throughout the field. We were ridculously negative in the first half, dropped our half forwards far too deep which gave Clans the launching pad for their attacks. To be honest, this was the hiding we could have had last week if Harps had taken their first half scores. Clans didn't let us off the hook and we paid the price. Very very bad day at the office, worst performance since at least 2006.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 16, 2008, 08:30:26 AM
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 15 JUNE 2008

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 10 8 2 0 18
Culloville 10 6 1 3 13
Pearse Og 9 5 2 2 12
St Patrick's 11 6 0 5 12
Mullaghbawn 8 5 1 4 11
Clan na Gael 11 4 3 4 11
Harps 10 3 2 5 8
Dromintee 10 3 1 6 7
Killeavey 9 3 0 6 6
Maghery 11 1 2 8 4

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 11 8 1 2 17
Tir na nÓg 10 8 0 2 16
Carrickcruppen 11 7 1 3 15
St Michael's 11 7 0 4 14
Clann Eireann 10 6 0 4 12
Granemore 10 5 0 5 10
Silverbridge 11 5 0 6 10
Wolfe Tones 11 5 0 6 10
Ballymacnab 11 4 1 6 9
An Port Mor 11 2 1 8 5
Keady 9 2 0 7 4
Whitecross 10 2 0 8 4

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
St Paul's 11 8 1 2 17
Collegeland 10 8 0 2 16
Madden 10 7 2 1 16
Belleek 10 6 1 3 13
Annaghmore 10 6 0 4 12
Ballyhegan 10 5 0 5 10
St Peter's 10 5 0 5 10
Lissummon 10 3 3 4 9
Clonmore 10 2 2 6 6
Grange 10 2 1 7 5
Tullysaran 10 2 1 7 5
Crossmaglen II 8 0 1 7 1

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 10 9 1 0 19
Eire Og 10 7 1 2 15
Middletown 9 5 3 1 13
Clady 10 5 2 3 12
Forkhill 10 5 1 4 11
Derrynoose 9 5 0 4 10
O'Hanlon's 10 5 0 5 10
Corrinshego 8 2 1 5 5
Mullaghbrack 10 2 1 7 5
Dorsey Emmett's 9 2 0 7 4
Phelim Brady's 9 0 0 9 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 16, 2008, 08:44:42 AM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SATURDAY 13 JUNE 2008


Thursday 12 June

ACL – Division Two
Sarsfields 2-12; Silverbridge 1-13
Whitecross v Tir na nÓg (Off)


Friday 13 June

ACL – Division One
Culloville 3-3; Crossmaglen 3-17
Harps 1-9; Killeavey 1-14
Dromintee 1-6; Mullaghbawn 1-12
Pearse Og 1-4; Maghery 1-4

ACL – Division Two
An Port Mor 0-10; Carrickcruppen 2-11
Ballymacnab 1-12; Keady 0-6
Granemore 2-12; Wolfe Tone 1-13
St Michael's 0-10; Clann Eireann 2-9

ACL – Division Three
Annaghmore 0-6; St Paul's 1-5
Collegeland 0-10; Belleek 1-8
Grange v Crossmaglen II (Off)
Tullysaran 1-8; Madden 1-8
Lissummon 0-11; St Peter's 0-12
Clonmore 0-10; Ballyhegan 1-12

ACL – Division Four
Mullaghbrack 0-4; Clady 1-9
Corrinshego v Derrynoose (Off)
Shane O'Neill's 1-16; Dorsey Emmett's 0-5
Phelim Brady's 1-7; Eire Og 1-16
O'Hanlon's 2-9; Forkhill 2-6
Bye – Middletown


Saturday 14 June

ACL – Division One
Clan na Gael 2-13; St Patrick's 0-6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 16, 2008, 09:31:25 AM
QuoteClonmore 0-10; Ballyhegan 1-12

Another good win for the Davitts. New manager Paul Turley has got the squad looking very fit. For the first time in a few years, a Ballyhegan manager, actually has some selection problems & with the 3 county men to come back also, things are starting to look a little better!

Another derby match next week v Annaghmore - should be good!

Big Audi seems to have helped the 'Saran turn the corner! - Good to see! Division 3 looks very exciting this year!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 16, 2008, 09:55:53 AM
something ain't right with the mullagbawn section of the league it claims they have only played 8 games, but then says they have won 5 drew 1 and lost 4. That would then be ten games. Can someone tell us how many they actually have played???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on June 16, 2008, 10:29:42 AM
wait for it win, we have played 11 games..table completely wrong in regards to games played.....7 games left for us...maghery, Killeavey, Pats, Cross, Cullavile, Clans and Harps..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 16, 2008, 10:49:16 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 15, 2008, 10:07:56 PM
Quoteclans destroyed St Pat's 2-13 to 0-06. You might want to put them lotto hopes on hold

Shocking performance from Cullyhanna. Absolutely outclassed throughout the field. We were ridculously negative in the first half, dropped our half forwards far too deep which gave Clans the launching pad for their attacks. To be honest, this was the hiding we could have had last week if Harps had taken their first half scores. Clans didn't let us off the hook and we paid the price. Very very bad day at the office, worst performance since at least 2006.

Tacadoir- you were righht i was at this game and i have to say i expected more from Cullyhanna- just didnt seem to get into the game- although the clans were impressive with Ohagan & Marsden running the show
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 16, 2008, 10:50:34 AM
Real have you still the same number of points???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on June 16, 2008, 11:02:51 AM
yeah 11 points win, we won 5, lost 5 and drew one...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 16, 2008, 12:10:20 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 16, 2008, 09:55:53 AM
something ain't right with the mullagbawn section of the league it claims they have only played 8 games, but then says they have won 5 drew 1 and lost 4. That would then be ten games. Can someone tell us how many they actually have played???

I got the table from orchard county website.  I think the Mullaghbawn games have been wrong for a while now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 16, 2008, 12:18:47 PM
GET THEM TABLES SORTED EL CUERVO
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 16, 2008, 12:27:14 PM
cheers real.

I know El they seem to be wrong on the orchardcounty but now that we know we can use the heads that we have been given to interpret them ourselves. So keep them coming.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 16, 2008, 12:34:21 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on June 16, 2008, 12:18:47 PM
GET THEM TABLES SORTED EL CUERVO

I know, I'm a disgrace.  I will hang my head in shame  :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 16, 2008, 12:36:57 PM
The Ogs stats are right
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 17, 2008, 01:08:56 PM
Played maghery there last night in the pat mc mahon cup and i will stick by what i said a few weeks back. That is the worst maghery team i have ever seen. They have gone backwards something shocking. When them lads were just breaking into the senior ranks they put up a better performance than they are doing now that they have experience. It usually works the other way around, with the experience making them better players. This hasn't been the case with maghery. It just looked like ateam of individuals with no fight. Any other time we play maghery there has always at the least been a bit of fight in them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 17, 2008, 01:57:37 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 17, 2008, 01:08:56 PM
Played maghery there last night in the pat mc mahon cup and i will stick by what i said a few weeks back. That is the worst maghery team i have ever seen. They have gone backwards something shocking. When them lads were just breaking into the senior ranks they put up a better performance than they are doing now that they have experience. It usually works the other way around, with the experience making them better players. This hasn't been the case with maghery. It just looked like ateam of individuals with no fight. Any other time we play maghery there has always at the least been a bit of fight in them.

clans 5-16 maghery 2-8 winsam speaks for itself- great to see
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: open her out on June 17, 2008, 04:27:05 PM
Anyone got the Intermediate Championship fixtures an dates?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 17, 2008, 06:29:42 PM
Courtesy of Orchardcounty.com

Friday 25 July
Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round
Crossmaglen II v St Patrick's at Silverbridge (7.30)
Collegeland v Keady at Abbey Park (7.30)
Annaghmore v Wolfe Tones at Maghery (7.30)

Saturday 26 July
Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round
Culloville v Lissummon at Carrickcruppen (7.30)
Clonmore v Madden at Pearse Og Park (7.30)
Ballyhegan v St Peter's at Portadown (7.30)

Sunday 27 July
Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round
Silverbridge v St Paul's at Abbey Park (7.30)
An Port Mor v Sarsfields at Ballyhegan (7.30)


Friday/Saturday/Sunday 15/16/17 August
Intermediate Football Championship – Quarter-Finals

Saturday/Sunday 13/14 September
Intermediate Football Championship – Semi-Finals

Sunday 5 October
Intermediate Football Championship FINAL


First round would be subject to Armagh not being in the second round of qualifiers (at least for teams like ourselves with county players). Assume if Armagh lose an Ulster final and are in a round 3 qualifier the next week (2nd August), they'll call off the games involving county men?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 17, 2008, 06:42:38 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 17, 2008, 01:08:56 PM
Played maghery there last night in the pat mc mahon cup and i will stick by what i said a few weeks back. That is the worst maghery team i have ever seen. They have gone backwards something shocking. When them lads were just breaking into the senior ranks they put up a better performance than they are doing now that they have experience. It usually works the other way around, with the experience making them better players. This hasn't been the case with maghery. It just looked like ateam of individuals with no fight. Any other time we play maghery there has always at the least been a bit of fight in them.

what i have heard is maghery had 4 r 5 senior players and the rest were the minor team so wouldnt read to much in2 it. did the clans and maghery(the worst maghery team u have ever seen)draw in the league when it really counted for something.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 17, 2008, 11:45:07 PM
well done to ciaran mc keever and the armagh team.lets hope they can take down in there next game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 18, 2008, 12:59:54 AM
yeah loughshore we did draw in the league and we were absolutely brutal that day so what did that make maghery??? Have a wee look at the league table. 4 points from 11 games is hardly a great return. Maybe they have been playing their minor team all year? If so this is a dodgy way to operate because they won't just click they're fingers and gets points to save them from relegation at the end of the year.

So by saying you wouldn't read too much into it, you would be denying that things are going bad at maghery. As i have said things were going better when them lads had no experience at senior level. They played us a few years back in the championship in Abbey park and they were very unlucky. We got to a championship final that year and won the league and where perhaps playing the best football we had been playing in a long while. If the same game was tommorrow i would say the result would be a foregone conclusion and we are by no means playing well at the moment. I just think the maghery set up has collapsed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 18, 2008, 07:51:23 AM
What's your grievance with Maghery?

Clans have only won 4 from 11 - not long after playing their best football in years! ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 18, 2008, 09:30:30 AM
Cross v Harps is at 12noon on Sunday on the 'Council pitch'.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 18, 2008, 10:30:07 AM
Goats if you learn to read things properly you will understand that i have no grievance with maghery at all. I am simply making an observation . From what i have seen this year they have gone backwards as a team (i was using their league position to jusitfy this). They are still fairly young but they don't seem to be progressing. The year they played us in the championship at abbey park (we were playing well that year) they could have beaten us and it was only in the last ten we pulled away. This was a young maghery team aswell. These lads are still playing and i am saying, from what i have seen this year they have gone backwards from then. In no way did i compare them to the clans or speak as though i had a grievance with them ( i actually ould like to see them stronger because it would make north Armagh more competitive). I also acknowledged that things haven't been going well for us this year.

It is not a personal attack on maghery it is merely an observation about the maghery team

I hope you can manage to read this correctly goats as you obviously couldn't interpret the first two posts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 10:55:36 AM
I see i didn't miss much on the board from my ban, i wonder who reported me to the mod ::) ::)

Winsam i know what you're saying and you're correct.

Maghery are def a better team than their league position states (i know the old saying the league table doesnt lie) things must not be clicking for them this year, i've all the time in the world for the Maghery men as they are a very honest and dedicated bunch of lads...(espically the older clan ;))

I see the Clans play the Ogs on Sunday and then the final of the Pat cup on Monday night. 2 games in 2 days, hopefully the north board will see sense and move the final till Tuesday or Wed...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 18, 2008, 11:01:13 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 18, 2008, 10:30:07 AM
Goats if you learn to read things properly you will understand that i have no grievance with maghery at all. I am simply making an observation . From what i have seen this year they have gone backwards as a team (i was using their league position to jusitfy this). They are still fairly young but they don't seem to be progressing. The year they played us in the championship at abbey park (we were playing well that year) they could have beaten us and it was only in the last ten we pulled away. This was a young maghery team aswell. These lads are still playing and i am saying, from what i have seen this year they have gone backwards from then. In no way did i compare them to the clans or speak as though i had a grievance with them ( i actually ould like to see them stronger because it would make north Armagh more competitive). I also acknowledged that things haven't been going well for us this year.

It is not a personal attack on maghery it is merely an observation about the maghery team

I hope you can manage to read this correctly goats as you obviously couldn't interpret the first two posts.

Please accept my sincere apologies, i will try to 'read things properly' in the future.

In my second attempt at 'Interpreting' your posts I now feel the sense of frustration you are feeling towards the loughshore club!
Title: Illdecide
Post by: Uladh on June 18, 2008, 11:11:58 AM

What did you get banned for boss?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 18, 2008, 12:49:50 PM
Surely Cullyhanna will walk the intermediate this year?
Title: Re: Illdecide
Post by: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 18, 2008, 11:11:58 AM

What did you get banned for boss?

There is a certain guy on the board that gets up my nose so i cracked like an egg and called him a 6 letter word that begins with W(don't want to get banned again) and told him what i thought of him so he reported me to the mod and the rest is history...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 18, 2008, 01:05:09 PM
That is the lowest i have heard of someone going yet. It is different if there is a torent of abuse being directed at someone but one freudian slip wouldn't kill anyone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: open her out on June 18, 2008, 01:09:50 PM
Quote from: corn02 on June 18, 2008, 12:49:50 PM
Surely Cullyhanna will walk the intermediate this year?

Culloville will be hard stopped too.... They possibly have more scoring threat than Cullyhanna but watched them against Cross Friday night an the full back line looked weak. Ollie Mooney was a big miss from the full back line. The return of Colm Watters and Dermot O'Neill will be a massive boost.
Title: Re: Illdecide
Post by: corn02 on June 18, 2008, 01:27:01 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 12:55:55 PM


i cracked like an egg and called him a 6 letter word that begins with W(don't want to get banned again)

Was it w**ker?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 18, 2008, 01:53:34 PM
Quote from: corn02 on June 18, 2008, 01:27:01 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 12:55:55 PM


i cracked like an egg and called him a 6 letter word that begins with W(don't want to get banned again)

Was it w**ker?

Waster?
Title: Re: Illdecide
Post by: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 02:11:05 PM
Quote from: corn02 on June 18, 2008, 01:27:01 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 12:55:55 PM


i cracked like an egg and called him a 6 letter word that begins with W(don't want to get banned again)

Was it w**ker?

Correct chief. But you wrote it there not me so watch you don't get reported ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 02:17:42 PM
But this board and this thread in particular is full of wankers! Christ, how else would we get through the early years of puberty ;D

Some people can be a bit precious, and unless it is really personal and constant it should be left at the door.

Anyway you're a Clans w**ker so you deserved it :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 18, 2008, 02:22:26 PM
If we all said w**ker would we all be banned. shite i already have :D :D

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 18, 2008, 02:31:13 PM
I want in too - w**ker, w**ker, w**ker!! ;D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 03:22:49 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 02:17:42 PM
But this board and this thread in particular is full of wankers! Christ, how else would we get through the early years of puberty ;D

Some people can be a bit precious, and unless it is really personal and constant it should be left at the door.

Anyway you're a Clans w**ker so you deserved it :P

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D  F**k it i'm away home for a w**k :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 18, 2008, 03:39:14 PM
what a guy!!! 

Broken you less of the abuse toward les blues  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 04:01:29 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 02:17:42 PM
But this board and this thread in particular is full of wankers! Christ, how else would we get through the early years of puberty ;D

Some people can be a bit precious, and unless it is really personal and constant it should be left at the door.

Anyway you're a Clans w**ker so you deserved it :P

I just remembered there BC1 i could report you but i'll let you off this time ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 04:06:09 PM
Yez couldn't stop me when I played, why break lifetime habits :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 18, 2008, 04:41:54 PM
I stopped you one day son.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 04:06:09 PM
Yez couldn't stop me when I played, why break lifetime habits :P

I stuck the forehead in you one day in Cross and you didn't come back for 2nds ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 04:47:58 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 04:06:09 PM
Yez couldn't stop me when I played, why break lifetime habits :P

I stuck the forehead in you one day in Cross and you didn't come back for 2nds ;)

Who gave you a lift to stick the head in me? :P  I think I remember it, I was maybe being restraint because I had championship to worry about, unlike you ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 05:06:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 04:47:58 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 04:06:09 PM
Yez couldn't stop me when I played, why break lifetime habits :P

I stuck the forehead in you one day in Cross and you didn't come back for 2nds ;)

Who gave you a lift to stick the head in me? :P  I think I remember it, I was maybe being restraint because I had championship to worry about, unlike you ;D

You were being restraint alright from my fists :D :D

Thank the Lord you had the championship then cos i'd have been torn from limb to limb and found in Dundalk :D :D

BC1 what age is JD as i was asking this last week to a few lads and got 3 different answers...When he goes and them Mac's you's lads will struggle (maybe struggle is the wrong word should have used not as strong)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 18, 2008, 05:51:25 PM
Thank the Lord you had the championship then cos i'd have been torn from limb to limb and found in Dundalk :D :D


Oh my sweet God 'illdecide' get your dick out of his ass! Have some self respect man for the love of God.  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 18, 2008, 05:54:00 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 18, 2008, 12:59:54 AM
yeah loughshore we did draw in the league and we were absolutely brutal that day so what did that make maghery??? Have a wee look at the league table. 4 points from 11 games is hardly a great return. Maybe they have been playing their minor team all year? If so this is a dodgy way to operate because they won't just click they're fingers and gets points to save them from relegation at the end of the year.

So by saying you wouldn't read too much into it, you would be denying that things are going bad at maghery. As i have said things were going better when them lads had no experience at senior level. They played us a few years back in the championship in Abbey park and they were very unlucky. We got to a championship final that year and won the league and where perhaps playing the best football we had been playing in a long while. If the same game was tommorrow i would say the result would be a foregone conclusion and we are by no means playing well at the moment. I just think the maghery set up has collapsed.
just to put light to this win maghery have an injury list the size of the pot holes on the davitt park pitch all season and have only played 9 games with most of them being away from home,while i admitt we have still went back since jimbo and dixie steped down last year we can still avoid the drop.that is the second year in a row we have drew with clans in devitt park.and if my memory serves me right we were beat by a point in the semi final of the championship last year again while clans got dumped in first round so maybe these young lads arent far off the mark...p.s league tables dont count untill yhe end of the season.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 18, 2008, 05:54:40 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 04:47:58 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 04:06:09 PM
Yez couldn't stop me when I played, why break lifetime habits :P

I stuck the forehead in you one day in Cross and you didn't come back for 2nds ;)

Who gave you a lift to stick the head in me? :P  I think I remember it, I was maybe being restraint because I had championship to worry about, unlike you ;D


If I remeber you correctly BC1 cross would have had a better chance in the championship if you had been suspended so I doubt it very much if anyone was trying to restrain you - they were probably egging you on!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 18, 2008, 06:21:06 PM
QuoteSurely Cullyhanna will walk the intermediate this year?

Certainly we've a decent chance Corn and its the number one aim for the club this season but Culloville on paper will probably be favourites. Ahead of us in the league, beat us already this year and got further than us last year. That said, I think we're at least as good a side as Culloville and would be very hopeful about our chances but certainly I wouldn't expect to "walk" it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 18, 2008, 06:40:07 PM
i wouldnt rule out sarsfields who are flying in div2,very young and fit team with a good manager who knows his stuff,might i add they are traditionally a championship team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 06:56:43 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 05:06:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 04:47:58 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 04:06:09 PM
Yez couldn't stop me when I played, why break lifetime habits :P

I stuck the forehead in you one day in Cross and you didn't come back for 2nds ;)

Who gave you a lift to stick the head in me? :P  I think I remember it, I was maybe being restraint because I had championship to worry about, unlike you ;D

You were being restraint alright from my fists :D :D

Thank the Lord you had the championship then cos i'd have been torn from limb to limb and found in Dundalk :D :D

BC1 what age is JD as i was asking this last week to a few lads and got 3 different answers...When he goes and them Mac's you's lads will struggle (maybe struggle is the wrong word should have used not as strong)

JD would be 36 this year, the Macs will be 31 in the next few weeks.  I reckon there is enough talent coming through to keep things ticking over for a good few years.  They may not keep the run going but the will win about 70% of chmpionships over the next 10 years.

Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 18, 2008, 05:54:40 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 04:47:58 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 18, 2008, 04:06:09 PM
Yez couldn't stop me when I played, why break lifetime habits :P

I stuck the forehead in you one day in Cross and you didn't come back for 2nds ;)

Who gave you a lift to stick the head in me? :P  I think I remember it, I was maybe being restraint because I had championship to worry about, unlike you ;D


If I remeber you correctly BC1 cross would have had a better chance in the championship if you had been suspended so I doubt it very much if anyone was trying to restrain you - they were probably egging you on!  ;D

Better chance in the championship?  What better than winning 10 in a row?  I know they have won more but I only played in 10 of them
Title: Re: Illdecide
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 18, 2008, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 18, 2008, 11:11:58 AM

What did you get banned for boss?

There is a certain guy on the board that gets up my nose so i cracked like an egg and called him a 6 letter word that begins with W(don't want to get banned again) and told him what i thought of him so he reported me to the mod and the rest is history...

Sorry to disappoint you but it wasn't me who reported you.  I'd have no trouble saying if I did - why don't you PM the mod that banned you and ask them if was me - they've my permission to tell you the truth either way.  Anything to stop you mouthing.

When you're crying and looking for sympathy of people why don't you tell them that you sat and wrote 7 or 8 lines of abuse towards me - at least this time you've the balls to say it yourself rather than use the line "what if someone came on and called you...".

BTW, you've been on this board a good while now, have you never noticed why people use the wink icon?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 18, 2008, 10:19:51 PM
TO ILLDECIDE

As BC1 has said the twins are only approaching 31 so barring injury they will be playing for another 4 to 5 years.

I do agree with you that when our older players quit we will not be as strong, but we have some great young players coming on as is evident from the fact that we recently beat Mullabawn and Culloville and drew with yourselves without our 8 county panellists 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 18, 2008, 10:26:58 PM
Your right son Cross arent going anywhere for a while but I think the point was that when the Macs and Donaldson etc retire there wont be a championship every year im afraid and thosE players were playing in the league games you mentioned. Had the Macs not been there against Mullaghbawn and in particular the Clans - Cross would have lost. Thats how important they are to continued Cross success. And while I agree that there is quality coming through - im afraid there is no Mac Entees coming along anytime soon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 18, 2008, 10:28:14 PM
Oh and P.S - THANK f**k! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: open her out on June 18, 2008, 11:07:36 PM
cross beat the bridge tonight in the south b c'ship semi..... jamie clarke is def one for the future if he stays at it. any word on the other semi?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 19, 2008, 09:13:36 AM
Totally skipped Cullaville Tam, didn't even see them there.

There has been plenty of shocks in the intermediate over the last few years anyway.
Title: Re: Illdecide
Post by: illdecide on June 19, 2008, 09:30:42 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 18, 2008, 07:12:17 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 18, 2008, 12:55:55 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 18, 2008, 11:11:58 AM

What did you get banned for boss?

There is a certain guy on the board that gets up my nose so i cracked like an egg and called him a 6 letter word that begins with W(don't want to get banned again) and told him what i thought of him so he reported me to the mod and the rest is history...

Sorry to disappoint you but it wasn't me who reported you.  I'd have no trouble saying if I did - why don't you PM the mod that banned you and ask them if was me - they've my permission to tell you the truth either way.  Anything to stop you mouthing.

When you're crying and looking for sympathy of people why don't you tell them that you sat and wrote 7 or 8 lines of abuse towards me - at least this time you've the balls to say it yourself rather than use the line "what if someone came on and called you...".

BTW, you've been on this board a good while now, have you never noticed why people use the wink icon?



Well it was only 3 lines of abuse not 7 or 8 and the thing that annoyed me was you always revert back to the clans no matter what the topic is or who is involved you always seem to involve the clans. Why? we are not in you're division we are not in you're board (north, mid & south crop) we don't know any of you're players so what is your problem with Clan na Gael?? I know you don't like Cullyhanna but you claim you have reasons for that and thats fair enough but as for the clans i just don't know...

P.S. as for the wink on you're post i'm not even going back to check as it was not there when you posted it or i wouldn't have cracked. It's easy to go back to previous posts and edit them...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 19, 2008, 10:17:20 AM
Illdecide,

I've said on here before I don't care about Clans either way. 

With regards to the wink - if you check the last post on page 500 - which is mine to you - there is a wink and no sign of editing.  If you edit a post there will be a sentence saying you've edited it.

Better still, why don't you look at page 502 - second post down which is yours that contained the abuse.  I see the mod only deleted the abuse but left what you quoted - what do you see quoted in there as having come from me? Is that a wink I see?   ::)


If you can't see a wink in your tantrum I don't know how you can count lines of abuse - but at least you've admitted that it was more than just calling me a w**ker. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 19, 2008, 10:57:04 AM
f**k me Pints you are the biggest YAP I have ever known..... Grow up man!!! No wonder this board has gone to the dogs with most of the good posters not bothering any more!!! (Apologies to those that are still here  ;D)   >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: celtic on June 19, 2008, 10:59:50 AM
after reading the report in the paper about referees lately and all the abuse they get, i have decided that sometimes it is needed. was at mullaghbawn and dromintee B match last night and paudie hughes dished out 4 red cards and a good few yellows and there wasn one bad tackle in the whole match. he is probable the biggest joke of a referee, and he is refereeing inter county matches. pure joke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 19, 2008, 11:03:04 AM
Quote from: Candyman on June 19, 2008, 10:57:04 AM
f**k me Pints you are the biggest YAP I have ever known..... Grow up man!!! No wonder this board has gone to the dogs with most of the good posters not bothering any more!!! (Apologies to those that are still here  ;D)   >:(

What am I yapping about?

Am I yapping when I point out to Illdecide that it wasnt me who reported him or when I point out a wink at the end of the inital post to him?  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 19, 2008, 11:16:34 AM
So I hear Celtic. My brother was one of the victims. 

The referee in the county is a joke. The number of matches spoiled by bad refereeing is on a steep increase. I have no idea hwo to improve the matter.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 19, 2008, 11:19:59 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 19, 2008, 11:03:04 AM
Quote from: Candyman on June 19, 2008, 10:57:04 AM
f**k me Pints you are the biggest YAP I have ever known..... Grow up man!!! No wonder this board has gone to the dogs with most of the good posters not bothering any more!!! (Apologies to those that are still here  ;D)   >:(

What am I yapping about?

Am I yapping when I point out to Illdecide that it wasnt me who reported him or when I point out a wink at the end of the inital post to him?  ::)

I haven't the time to go through your 4591 posts but I'd be fairly confident that the vast majority of them contain some form of yapping or a gripe about something!!! I'd also be fairly confident that there are more people on here that think your an annoying twat than those that think your dan the man!! RANT OVER......  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 19, 2008, 11:22:16 AM
Quote from: Candyman on June 19, 2008, 11:19:59 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 19, 2008, 11:03:04 AM
Quote from: Candyman on June 19, 2008, 10:57:04 AM
f**k me Pints you are the biggest YAP I have ever known..... Grow up man!!! No wonder this board has gone to the dogs with most of the good posters not bothering any more!!! (Apologies to those that are still here  ;D)   >:(

What am I yapping about?

Am I yapping when I point out to Illdecide that it wasnt me who reported him or when I point out a wink at the end of the inital post to him?  ::)

I haven't the time to go through your 4591 posts but I'd be fairly confident that the vast majority of them contain some form of yapping or a gripe about something!!! I'd also be fairly confident that there are more people on here that think your an annoying twat than those that think your dan the man!! RANT OVER......  >:(

Well I'm just devastated.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 19, 2008, 11:43:20 AM
Loughshore the reason i am posting this is because i cannot understand how maghery have became so bad. They are a good bunch of lads and i have grown up playing against them all my life. So you could say i am asking for the reason why they have went backwards. I wasn't aware they were missing many players and i certainly wasn't comparing them to the clans. You have then came on in response and compared them to the  clans last two seasons I was merley using that comparison from the championship game as a yard stick . You keep pointing out that they drew with the clans and of course they did but that has absolutely nothing to do with what i am saying.

You have indicated that you have a lot of injuries and this certainly wouldn't help. You have then said they have gone backwards, which was what i was saying. I am still wondering what are the main reasons why.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: celtic on June 19, 2008, 11:50:23 AM
i dont no what can be done about it corn. from the throw up he blew countless frees in a matter of minutes. from then on i knew he was going to destroy the match. why do refs think they have the right to take control of matches and destroy them. forgot to mention one of the dromintee lads  did deserve to be sent of for striking but the rest of the bookings were a pure joke. sure the same happened last friday when another one of the dromintee lads got sent off for nothin against mullaghbawn. not sure who he was but did not deserve it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 19, 2008, 12:01:33 PM
Quote from: celtic on June 19, 2008, 11:50:23 AM
n one of the dromintee lads  did deserve to be sent of for striking

Sounds about right.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 19, 2008, 01:19:54 PM
once again i think i highlighted this weeks ago (about refs) and was told it was only clans ones who yapped about refs. Then a newspaper article comes out and you guys all jump on the band wagon. On this occassion i enjoy saying i told you so.  ;)

POG Dry them son and get on with the banter without throwing the toys from the pram.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 19, 2008, 01:20:39 PM
it wasn't a w**ker he called you after all then, it was a  ;)winker ;)  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on June 19, 2008, 01:21:22 PM
The South Armagh Board have asked that your Club Chairperson and Secretary attend a special meeting in Newtownhamilton Community Centre on Tuesday the 24th June at 9pm on the agenda is abuse of referee's.  ;D ;D ;D

Apparently the word on the ground is that alot of referees are about to pack it in and leave Armagh football in limbo, ant thoughts??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 19, 2008, 01:23:36 PM
Big Sam is the only ref we need.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 19, 2008, 02:23:05 PM
Sure some of the monkeys already have it in limbo. Does this mean that it is only south Armagh representatives to go to it then???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on June 19, 2008, 02:30:24 PM
After King Paudi's performance last night in Mullaghbawn, there is no wonder Referees get abuse when they go on Power Trips, walk around as if they own the place, his usual sending off to show he is the boss  and tell people what they are going to do in the Dublin v Westmeath match next week

Some people must lick some serious arse to get where they are!! ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 19, 2008, 02:34:29 PM
Im not suprised you were not impressed Whacker.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on June 19, 2008, 02:36:21 PM
Lads,

You want to be playing a match in London and then come back to me about Armagh referee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 19, 2008, 02:39:23 PM
I know you umgola, you always give refs a hard time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 19, 2008, 02:48:10 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on June 19, 2008, 02:39:23 PM
I know you umgola, you always give refs a hard time

not just referees  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on June 19, 2008, 02:56:42 PM
The only time i would have a go at the ref was if he was blatantly wrong, id say it happens maybe once a match, other than that i would keep the mmouth shut
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 19, 2008, 02:59:42 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on June 19, 2008, 02:56:42 PM
The only time i would have a go at the ref was if he was blatantly wrong, id say it happens maybe once a match, other than that i would keep the mmouth shut

Impossible  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 19, 2008, 03:15:06 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on June 19, 2008, 02:56:42 PM
The only time i would have a go at the ref was if he was blatantly wrong, id say it happens maybe once a match, other than that i would keep the mmouth shut

you'd be well known for the odd torrent of abuse
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 19, 2008, 03:20:01 PM
if the ref could work out what he's saying!!!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on June 19, 2008, 04:28:42 PM
IMO most refs get what they deserve. Some of the decisions are completely unbelievable at club level with not a sinner in the park seeing things they way the ref did.

I've always supported refs and argued against anyone giving them hassle but you cant stick your head in the sand and pretend that standards are ok when they clearly arent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 19, 2008, 05:50:36 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 19, 2008, 11:43:20 AM
Loughshore the reason i am posting this is because i cannot understand how maghery have became so bad. They are a good bunch of lads and i have grown up playing against them all my life. So you could say i am asking for the reason why they have went backwards. I wasn't aware they were missing many players and i certainly wasn't comparing them to the clans. You have then came on in response and compared them to the  clans last two seasons I was merley using that comparison from the championship game as a yard stick . You keep pointing out that they drew with the clans and of course they did but that has absolutely nothing to do with what i am saying.

You have indicated that you have a lot of injuries and this certainly wouldn't help. You have then said they have gone backwards, which was what i was saying. I am still wondering what are the main reasons why.
as you know wee are a small club win with a small panel so when 3 r 4 men get injured we struggle to replace them with players as strong,but this year is the worst i have ever seen,also the management of the past 5 years steped down,thinking it would be in the teams best interest but it hasnt worked out that way.the new management cant seem to get outta the boys what the past manager did,so this is maybe why.But sure i will jump on the bandwagan and blame the refferees for our downfall. ;D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Fiodoir Ard Mhacha on June 19, 2008, 07:45:42 PM
North Armagh Gaelic Week - June 21st - 28th - Cumann Lúthchleas Gael - Coiste Ceantair Tuaisceart Ard Mhacha CLG

Apologies if this has already been posted elsewhere:

Shaping our Future (Forbairt agus Fás) sets out a strategic vision for Gaelic Football across the Borough of Craigavon.  Part of this vision includes the implementation of an annual Gaelic Week that would showcase all aspects of Gaelic Games and Gaelic Culture.  You are cordially invited to the launch of:

What is Gaelic Week about?
The primary aim of Gaelic Week is to showcase a range of activities - on & off the field - that will better promote & celebrate GAA games and culture across North Armagh.

Where did the idea come from?
The Shaping our Future strategy, which all Clubs signed up to, commits North Armagh to host an annual Gaelic Week to better promote our games & culture.

Who is involved?
A working group was established by the North Board sometime ago to develop the strategy and roll out the actions. Club chairmen and secretaries were invited to a meeting in March when it was explained further help with Gaelic Week was required. The following clubs/people are currently involved:
Clan na Gael - Paul O'Hagan, Diarmaid Marsden
Clonmore - Gerry Cunningham
Eire Og - Padraic McKeever, Stephen Moore
Maghery - Malachy Heaney
Sarsfields - Conor Creaney
St Paul's - Pat Mallon
St Peter's - Annette Mulholland, Laurence O'Connor, Jimmy Magee
AN Others - Liam McCorry, Eamon McCausland, Pat McGleenon

What is involved?
The plan is for all GAA Clubs in North Armagh to participate in Gaelic Week through various sporting and cultural events. The following programme has been drafted:
• Under 12, 14 & 16 Football Championship Finals.
• B Championship Final.
• Pat McMahon Cup & Shield Finals.
• Recreational (Social) GAA, i.e. a series of fun-filled games/activities for the "over 35s"in an attempt to encourage older people to take up exercise and physical recreation and perhaps renew their relationship with their Club. Note - Ulster Council is using Gaelic Week to launch this initiative.
• Workshops for coaches/leaders/volunteers/young people, facilitated by tutors who are regarded as experts in their chosen field.
• Community focused events - Scor, folk & traditional music, story-telling, Ceili and a Talk-GAA programme involving well known personalities, e.g. Joe Brolly.

The climax of the week will be a Mass in St Peter's Church, Lurgan at 12Noon on the 28th followed by a parade led by The Artane Boys Band, from Antrim Road, along North Street, Church Place, down Edward Street to Davitt Park, Francis Street for an open-air, family-focused, alcohol free concert starting at 2pm and finishing no later than 5pm.


Who is meetinq the cost?
The working group has secured funding from a small number of local businesses. In addition, an application for funding has been submitted to Craigavon Council. Also, Clubs, particularly those hosting off-the-field activities, may be asked to make a small donation in the order of £250.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 20, 2008, 09:44:47 AM
This is an absolute fantastic idea and may just provide that little extra boost that we need in north armagh. This should spark a bit of life back into the area if the people come out and give their support to it. The lads involved in organising it should take a pat on the back because this area has been crying out for such a thing and it is about time we got it.

It should be a great week for all concerned, bringing our culture and games to the fore. As an added bonus we even got to put buntings up in our own town close to the 12th and they are not red , white and blue. :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 20, 2008, 02:16:57 PM
Heard last night that the Ogs will be playing with all their county men against the Clans on sunday with the exceptions of A Mallon and R Clarke...

Fair play to McDonnell he is letting the squad members get a game with their club rather than waste away on the sidelines with Armagh...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on June 20, 2008, 02:36:02 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 20, 2008, 02:16:57 PM
Heard last night that the Ogs will be playing with all their county men against the Clans on sunday with the exceptions of A Mallon and R Clarke...

Fair play to McDonnell he is letting the squad members get a game with their club rather than waste away on the sidelines with Armagh...

This is good to see. Should be an interesting game now as clans would possibly have been slight favourites as they would have had a full team and the ogs would have been missing alot. Now they're only missing 2 players who are easily replaced :D Think they might have a couple injured too. Clans will be looking revenge for being beat at davitt park and are coming off the back of a good run of results
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 20, 2008, 04:06:56 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 20, 2008, 02:16:57 PM
Heard last night that the Ogs will be playing with all their county men against the Clans on sunday with the exceptions of A Mallon and R Clarke...

Fair play to McDonnell he is letting the squad members get a game with their club rather than waste away on the sidelines with Armagh...

first I heard of it but the more the merrier
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on June 20, 2008, 04:27:23 PM
Jesus them ogs ones must have a say on the county board, this would not have happen a year or two ago  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Dannymcfella on June 20, 2008, 09:51:23 PM
Think its a good thing that the squad players are gettin a game for their clubs, it means that they will keep there match fitness and sharpness up. They could be doin all the trainin in the world with the county but nothing beats a game for the fitness levels. Means they will be inn better shape when/if called up later in the championship. Also its better for the all round standard of the clubs football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on June 20, 2008, 11:41:07 PM
Over at Wcross Tir Na Nog game tonite. Wcross won by 2. good open game. Surprised to see Brian Mallon playing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 20, 2008, 11:51:32 PM
QuoteOver at Wcross Tir Na Nog game tonite. Wcross won by 2. good open game. Surprised to see Brian Mallon playing

Looks like he won't start Sunday week then, which is disappointing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on June 21, 2008, 12:04:58 AM
Hit a few frees but dont think he scored from play
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 21, 2008, 08:46:02 AM
County boys aren't available this weekend as they're away in Clones
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 21, 2008, 01:56:28 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on June 20, 2008, 11:41:07 PM
Over at Wcross Tir Na Nog game tonite. Wcross won by 2. good open game. Surprised to see Brian Mallon playing

suprised at that result. but its a good one for the chasing pack, and tir na nog play sarsfields on sunday i think so newtown and cruppen can gain ground.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 21, 2008, 04:14:23 PM
liam o hare out for at least 6 to 8 weeks big loss to st pats.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 21, 2008, 04:41:22 PM
O' hare out with county duty or injury?????

So will the ogs county men not be playing on sunday then?? This is highly confusing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 21, 2008, 04:51:19 PM
injury to the knee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 21, 2008, 10:21:04 PM
county men not available for clubs on sunday as they are going to clones for training unless some have got the time of their game switched to 12 are evening throw in..looks like all home wins in div1 for me
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 21, 2008, 10:33:07 PM
You'd know alot about it! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 21, 2008, 10:33:45 PM
Really can't understand some of the logic behind some pedictions. You think, loughshore, that Pearse ogs will beat the clans without their county men??? This may well happen but i think the clans would now be fav's considering the ogs will be missing 7 or 8. So i cannot fanthom how you could fancy the ogs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 22, 2008, 02:03:02 PM
Division1

Cross 1-13 Harps 0-05
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 22, 2008, 04:06:44 PM
St Pat's beat Killeavy 3-8 to 2-4. We were missing 7 players so I thought we'd be vulnerable but Killeavy were very poor. Cullyhanna went 2-5 to 0-0 up in the first half and it took Killeavy almost half an hour to register a score. They came back into the game in the second half but a great goal from Tony Donnelly probably killed the game off. Killeavy never got closer than 5 points. Hard to see them getting out of trouble on that display. St Pat's weren't wonderful but did enough. Shane McKeever, Eugene Casey and Tony Donnelly got the goals
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 22, 2008, 04:11:41 PM
Quote from: crossfire on June 22, 2008, 02:03:02 PM
Division1

Cross 1-13 Harps 0-05
Why wasn't donaldson playing has he finished. easy enough win for cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 22, 2008, 04:31:53 PM
Dromintee beat Cullaville by four. We were missing 10 so was a suprising result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 22, 2008, 04:37:34 PM
cruppen beat ballymacnab 2 - 6 to 2 - 5. dire match and dire conditions for a match but its 2 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 22, 2008, 04:55:10 PM
MAGHERY BEAT MULLABAWN 1:14 2:10 VERY STRONG WIND MAGHERY 1;08 0;06 UP AT HALF TIME MULLABAWN SCORED 2;4 FIRST 15 MINS 2ND HALF MAGHERY LADS DUG DEEP AND CAME STRONG IN THE END FOR VERY IMPORTANT WIN..MUST ADD ANOTHER REF ON AN EGO TRIP BEING SMART 2 PLAYERS ETC
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sean og on June 22, 2008, 05:55:23 PM
Sarsfield beat tir na og 2 defeats at the weekend
not good for the porty boys
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 22, 2008, 08:17:59 PM
anyone got updated league tables? thats a big result for sarsfields.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 22, 2008, 08:36:25 PM
well done cullyhanna
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 22, 2008, 08:45:41 PM
cullyhanna played very well today in the first half took the foot off in the 2nd let  killeavy back into it.mal mackin and barry mc conville ruled mid field taking stanfield out off it.tony donnelly was one off cullyhanna better players along with eugene casey.shane mc keever set alot off the scores up hes a very smart player.hope cullyhanna get all there players back for the c ship they were missing 6 today.good to see gary mc cooey back he will be a first team player in a few weeks when he gets fit think thats cullyhanna safe in div 1 for next year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 22, 2008, 09:01:54 PM
Quotecruppen beat ballymacnab 2 - 6 to 2 - 5. dire match and dire conditions for a match but its 2 points.
According to results on Aerel this game was a draw at 2-5 each.  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 22, 2008, 09:32:30 PM
Clans beat Pearse ogs 0-07 to 1-14 again wind probably ruined the game a bit
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: celtic on June 22, 2008, 09:45:11 PM
Has anybody got updated league tables after the weekend results. bottom half of table getting interesting now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on June 22, 2008, 10:02:38 PM
Quote from: celtic on June 22, 2008, 09:45:11 PM
Has anybody got updated league tables after the weekend results. bottom half of table getting interesting now?


The tables are now on the Orchardcounty website now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 22, 2008, 10:49:32 PM
ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 11 9 2 0 20
St Patrick's 12 7 0 5 14                                                             
Culloville 11 6 1 4 13                                                                                       
Clan na Gael 12 5 3 4 13
Pearse Og 10 5 2 3 12
Mullaghbawn 12 5 1 6 11
Dromintee 11 4 1 6 9                                                         
Harps 11 3 2 6 8 
Killeavey 11 3 0 8 6
Maghery 12 2 2 8 6


Think this is the new table after todays results lads. It is starting to heat up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 22, 2008, 10:56:01 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on June 22, 2008, 09:01:54 PM
Quotecruppen beat ballymacnab 2 - 6 to 2 - 5. dire match and dire conditions for a match but its 2 points.
According to results on Aerel this game was a draw at 2-5 each.  ???


well cruppen def won by a point with the full forward scoring all 2 - 6.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 22, 2008, 11:37:13 PM
not sure about that table maghery have played 11 not 12 stll in with a chance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 23, 2008, 09:30:51 AM
Lads the refeering is not getting any better (i know it' an old topic) but that clown who done the Ogs v Clans game needs put down (another guy on a power trip). He by no means robbed the Clans he was brutal for both teams and from talking to Clarke (the Da) he told me he refeered the Ogs weeks ago and was pure manure then too. By the way the ref was Kevin McNeice (Annaghmore)

This all comes after watching Fermanagh v Derry on sat night and that ref too was a fecking tube, there wasn't a bad tackle the whole game yet he gave out about 15 yellow cards. The game is now a  non contact sport, even the old fashioned "shoulder tackle" is not allowed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 23, 2008, 09:34:42 AM
Hell of a shoulder in that game, never a peno!!

Ballyhegan beat Annaghmore by 7 i'm told (never madde the game) - Any reports David??

Hell of a turn around on last year when we were 'Duffed' twice!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 23, 2008, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 23, 2008, 09:30:51 AM
Lads the refeering is not getting any better (i know it' an old topic) but that clown who done the Ogs v Clans game needs put down (another guy on a power trip). He by no means robbed the Clans he was brutal for both teams and from talking to Clarke (the Da) he told me he refeered the Ogs weeks ago and was pure manure then too. By the way the ref was Kevin McNeice (Annaghmore)

This all comes after watching Fermanagh v Derry on sat night and that ref too was a fecking tube, there wasn't a bad tackle the whole game yet he gave out about 15 yellow cards. The game is now a  non contact sport, even the old fashioned "shoulder tackle" is not allowed.

Pints is right, Jesus You's Clans men are always yapping....  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 23, 2008, 09:53:48 AM
Quote from: Candyman on June 23, 2008, 09:36:55 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 23, 2008, 09:30:51 AM
Lads the referring is not getting any better (i know it' an old topic) but that clown who done the Ogs v Clans game needs put down (another guy on a power trip). He by no means robbed the Clans he was brutal for both teams and from talking to Clarke (the Da) he told me he refereed the Ogs weeks ago and was pure manure then too. By the way the ref was Kevin McNeice (Annaghmore)

This all comes after watching Fermanagh v Derry on sat night and that ref too was a fecking tube, there wasn't a bad tackle the whole game yet he gave out about 15 yellow cards. The game is now a  non contact sport, even the old fashioned "shoulder tackle" is not allowed.

Pints is right, Jesus You's Clans men are always yapping....  ;)

Now Candyman stop trying to stir things up ;) I said he was shite for both teams...If he's in Lurgan on friday night waiting on us then you'll know you're driver :D (and thats before we unleash the fury) :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donners on June 23, 2008, 10:16:04 AM
Tullysaran and Cross IIs drew, strong wind ruined the game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 23, 2008, 11:36:16 AM
That's right candyman latch onto what other posters think and forget about having a mind of your own. The fact that you think that eejit Pints is right is enough for me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 23, 2008, 11:41:47 AM
Well loughshore i was only adding one onto the total of the last games. which was 11 so that game made it 12 but as i said i wouldn't be sure of them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 23, 2008, 12:00:37 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 23, 2008, 11:36:16 AM
That's right candyman latch onto what other posters think and forget about having a mind of your own. The fact that you think that eejit Pints is right is enough for me.

Pints is the Honourary President of Silverbridge, of course he's always right!!!!!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 23, 2008, 12:12:37 PM
He's an honourary member alright, i would near say they flew him out to wherever he lives now just to get rid of him. He is very somber these days anyway i haven't heard from him in a while. We need to be careful lads this could turn into bullying. Like big brother "member i told you" we could get evicted.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: whoareya? on June 23, 2008, 12:46:59 PM
Now for something completely different! A few msgs back someone said John Donaldson didn't play for Cross yesterday. I'm not surprised. Now i don't know the man personally I've been lucky enough to get a slap in the mouth from him in a league game once but what I saw last sunday in Breffni Park was just unreal. I found myself standing beside him at the match and I'm not exaggerating this for effect. He ate 4 mars bars during the match!! He had 2 in him before half time then when the ref blew for half time he reached for the bag and I couldn't believe it another mars. One more with about ten mins to go. Animal!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 23, 2008, 01:15:14 PM
Quote from: whoareya? on June 23, 2008, 12:46:59 PM
Now for something completely different! A few msgs back someone said John Donaldson didn't play for Cross yesterday. I'm not surprised. Now i don't know the man personally I've been lucky enough to get a slap in the mouth from him in a league game once but what I saw last sunday in Breffni Park was just unreal. I found myself standing beside him at the match and I'm not exaggerating this for effect. He ate 4 mars bars during the match!! He had 2 in him before half time then when the ref blew for half time he reached for the bag and I couldn't believe it another mars. One more with about ten mins to go. Animal!!!

You're lucky that he didn't eat you too!!!!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 23, 2008, 01:22:57 PM
Ha brilliant.

Oul JD has seemed to cut out the dirt in his game and is a much better player for it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 23, 2008, 01:39:46 PM
well win my predictions wernt that far away,i went for ogs v clans because i heard the game had a 12 o`clock start so the county lads could play,if i had knew they wernt playing i would ofcourse went for clans,with bumby back again they are maybe the 2nd best team in north armagh ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 23, 2008, 01:50:22 PM
we had the pleasure of sam mcclatchey refereeing our game yesterday!

i love his moving the ball up 10 yards! haha he moved one yesterday from middle of the field to the 14 yard line for one back chat!

also he gave a penalty against our keeper who dived to make a save was still on the ground when the rebound went in and hit im on his hand. he gave a penalty for lift ball when at the most should have been a 14 yard free kick.

won by a point lucky to do so! weather conditions where terrible for both teams, we played shite but still managed to come away with 2 points! a win is a win - performance would need to improve alot in the next couple of weeks big time!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 23, 2008, 02:01:14 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on June 23, 2008, 01:50:22 PM
we had the pleasure of sam mcclatchey refereeing our game yesterday!

i love his moving the ball up 10 yards! haha he moved one yesterday from middle of the field to the 14 yard line for one back chat!

also he gave a penalty against our keeper who dived to make a save was still on the ground when the rebound went in and hit im on his hand. he gave a penalty for lift ball when at the most should have been a 14 yard free kick.

won by a point lucky to do so! weather conditions where terrible for both teams, we played shite but still managed to come away with 2 points! a win is a win - performance would need to improve alot in the next couple of weeks big time!

big sams a legend- i seen him  move a ball 50 yard before for players mouthing- but at least he lets the play flow
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 23, 2008, 02:33:00 PM
His favourite line is " You keep Talking and i'll keep walking"  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 23, 2008, 02:58:08 PM
That's a classic one about JD just sums tha man up a complete animal. I would like to see him take on Mr T.

Loughshore your a worth a laugh if nothing else lad. I take it your are saying that the sarsfields would be the best team then in North Armagh  ;) So that must make us second Tir Na Nog third and Maghery fourth  ;)  :D :D

See what you make of this rating  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 23, 2008, 02:59:41 PM
At least Sam will allow a tackle! I was at a division 1 game yesterday and it scared me half to death. Jesus your not allowed to make contact with anyone at all now. Is this Gaelic football or basketball!! Refs are ruining this sport in Armagh - a well known coach in Down once told me gaelic football was a mans sport, played by men, in a manly fashion. Not anymore - some of the decisions he gave yesterday had both camps laughing!! ??? >:( >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 23, 2008, 05:03:34 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 20, 2008, 04:06:56 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 20, 2008, 02:16:57 PM
Heard last night that the Ogs will be playing with all their county men against the Clans on sunday with the exceptions of A Mallon and R Clarke...

Fair play to McDonnell he is letting the squad members get a game with their club rather than waste away on the sidelines with Armagh...

first I heard of it but the more the merrier

El cuervo was at the clans v ogs on sunday coulnt believe how poor a team the ogs were-  ikn ow that yiu were missing all your county men - but surley the other lads should be up to more- the clans ripped them to bits at one stage in the second half they outscored ogs 0-9 to 0-0 with tens mins left- all i heard was arguments amoungst each other - great to see- long may it continue
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 23, 2008, 05:30:19 PM
Quote from: whoareya? on June 23, 2008, 12:46:59 PM
Now for something completely different! A few msgs back someone said John Donaldson didn't play for Cross yesterday. I'm not surprised. Now i don't know the man personally I've been lucky enough to get a slap in the mouth from him in a league game once but what I saw last sunday in Breffni Park was just unreal. I found myself standing beside him at the match and I'm not exaggerating this for effect. He ate 4 mars bars during the match!! He had 2 in him before half time then when the ref blew for half time he reached for the bag and I couldn't believe it another mars. One more with about ten mins to go. Animal!!!

I'm sure Donaldson thought you were some sort of queer or freak for watching everything the fella ate :P Can you remember anything about the actual match or did you not look onto the pitch? What was his teeth like? :D :D :D

I know one thing if i was at a match JD would be last thing i'd wanna view as you would think he was beat with the ugly stick. If the match was that poor for you why didn't look at some lass with a short skirt ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 23, 2008, 08:53:11 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 23, 2008, 02:58:08 PM
That's a classic one about JD just sums tha man up a complete animal. I would like to see him take on Mr T.

Loughshore your a worth a laugh if nothing else lad. I take it your are saying that the sarsfields would be the best team then in North Armagh  ;) So that must make us second Tir Na Nog third and Maghery fourth  ;)  :D :D

See what you make of this rating  ;)
well im no joe brolly but i was thinking more eire og 1st maghery/clans 2nd pauls,tones clann eirean,tir na nog ,sarsfields.. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 24, 2008, 08:47:23 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on June 23, 2008, 05:03:34 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 20, 2008, 04:06:56 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 20, 2008, 02:16:57 PM
Heard last night that the Ogs will be playing with all their county men against the Clans on sunday with the exceptions of A Mallon and R Clarke...

Fair play to McDonnell he is letting the squad members get a game with their club rather than waste away on the sidelines with Armagh...

first I heard of it but the more the merrier

El cuervo was at the clans v ogs on sunday coulnt believe how poor a team the ogs were-  ikn ow that yiu were missing all your county men - but surley the other lads should be up to more- the clans ripped them to bits at one stage in the second half they outscored ogs 0-9 to 0-0 with tens mins left- all i heard was arguments amoungst each other - great to see- long may it continue

There was a bit of shouting going on alright.  It probably just came from the frustration, but I wouldn't like to see that behavior creep in because it's not part of our game.  We are usually a lot more disciplined than that.  We were poor all over the field on sunday, with the second half being attrocious.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 24, 2008, 08:51:55 AM
sure them aul mini mars bars go down a treat!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on June 24, 2008, 10:08:56 AM
Think that defeat for the ogs on sunday will do them the world of good. 6-8 weeks to championship and it just shows them how much work they will have to put in although i hear they are doing an awful lot of work at the minute and this could perhaps be the reason for their lethargic performances over the last while. Clans are currently on a roll but they will not want to peak too early as we all know that the championship is the one all clubs want to get a hold of. It helps the clans that they have no county players and they can play with the same team week in week out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 24, 2008, 10:53:00 AM
Clans beat Sarsfields by 5pts last night in the final of the North Armagh cup. A good game with no bad tackles. Sarsfields started off like a house on fire going 2pts up and looking dangerous on every attack but the Clans weathered the storm and started to pick of scores and went in 06 to 03 at the break. Second half Clans took control and kept them at bay throughout as well as missing 3 excellent goal chances. Final score Clans 0-16 Sarsfields 0-11 ( i think)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 24, 2008, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 24, 2008, 10:53:00 AM
Clans beat Sarsfields by 5pts last night in the final of the North Armagh cup. A good game with no bad tackles. Sarsfields started off like a house on fire going 2pts up and looking dangerous on every attack but the Clans weathered the storm and started to pick of scores and went in 06 to 03 at the break. Second half Clans took control and kept them at bay throughout as well as missing 3 excellent goal chances. Final score Clans 0-16 Sarsfields 0-11 ( i think)

07-05 at half time

full time 16-10 illdecide- you must have been at a different game or else you just cant count :P :P :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 24, 2008, 12:06:25 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on June 24, 2008, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 24, 2008, 10:53:00 AM
Clans beat Sarsfields by 5pts last night in the final of the North Armagh cup. A good game with no bad tackles. Sarsfields started off like a house on fire going 2pts up and looking dangerous on every attack but the Clans weathered the storm and started to pick of scores and went in 06 to 03 at the break. Second half Clans took control and kept them at bay throughout as well as missing 3 excellent goal chances. Final score Clans 0-16 Sarsfields 0-11 ( i think)

07-05 at half time

full time 16-10 illdecide- you must have been at a different game or else you just cant count :P :P :P

Did you not see the ( i think) at the end of the post son...Talking about nit picking. whats a point here or there when you're winning comfortable
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 24, 2008, 12:16:35 PM
Also heard the old cry again at the Ogs and clans game. Bumpy o' Hagan was fouled in the middle of the pitch and he went to ground. One of the ogs supporters AKA a mouth shouted on "this ain't mournview park you know" Now wtf is this all about. I have witnessed this several time over the years. The majority of it has been in South Armagh. There are no Irish leagues teams in that neck of the woods so you can understand a little what they are refering too. But it is still a joke that some clown thinks he can shout that at people who have no more interest in soccer than the man on the moon.

This ogs fool fails to realise that Armagh city also have an Irish league team and are pretty much like Lurgan with regardes it being a town/city. So there are a lot of similarities. Both the ogs and the clans would be competing with soccer more so than south armagh teams, but they would have that hardcore groups that would always go to Gaelic no matter if it was a world cup final. This maddens me as these bamsticks on the line pay into games and think they can just shout out a load of shite. They would need to catch a grip.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 24, 2008, 12:23:41 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 24, 2008, 12:16:35 PM
Also heard the old cry again at the Ogs and clans game. Bumpy o' Hagan was fouled in the middle of the pitch and he went to ground. One of the ogs supporters AKA a mouth shouted on "this ain't mournview park you know" Now wtf is this all about. I have witnessed this several time over the years. The majority of it has been in South Armagh. There are no Irish leagues teams in that neck of the woods so you can understand a little what they are refering too. But it is still a joke that some clown thinks he can shout that at people who have no more interest in soccer than the man on the moon.

This ogs fool fails to realise that Armagh city also have an Irish league team and are pretty much like Lurgan with regardes it being a town/city. So there are a lot of similarities. Both the ogs and the clans would be competing with soccer more so than south armagh teams, but they would have that hardcore groups that would always go to Gaelic no matter if it was a world cup final. This maddens me as these bamsticks on the line pay into games and think they can just shout out a load of shite. They would need to catch a grip.

Its a wonder an Ogs man got near a clans player it didnt happen too often last sunday- Bamsticks is the word WSS-  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 24, 2008, 12:25:44 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 24, 2008, 12:06:25 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on June 24, 2008, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 24, 2008, 10:53:00 AM
Clans beat Sarsfields by 5pts last night in the final of the North Armagh cup. A good game with no bad tackles. Sarsfields started off like a house on fire going 2pts up and looking dangerous on every attack but the Clans weathered the storm and started to pick of scores and went in 06 to 03 at the break. Second half Clans took control and kept them at bay throughout as well as missing 3 excellent goal chances. Final score Clans 0-16 Sarsfields 0-11 ( i think)

07-05 at half time

full time 16-10 illdecide- you must have been at a different game or else you just cant count :P :P :P



Correct illdecide son- just thought i would keep the patrons on the board fully updated- and ps i will bring a calcuator or maybe in your case an abacus  ::) ::)

Did you not see the ( i think) at the end of the post son...Talking about nit picking. whats a point here or there when you're winning comfortable
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: whoareya? on June 24, 2008, 12:46:44 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 23, 2008, 05:30:19 PM
Quote from: whoareya? on June 23, 2008, 12:46:59 PM
Now for something completely different! A few msgs back someone said John Donaldson didn't play for Cross yesterday. I'm not surprised. Now i don't know the man personally I've been lucky enough to get a slap in the mouth from him in a league game once but what I saw last sunday in Breffni Park was just unreal. I found myself standing beside him at the match and I'm not exaggerating this for effect. He ate 4 mars bars during the match!! He had 2 in him before half time then when the ref blew for half time he reached for the bag and I couldn't believe it another mars. One more with about ten mins to go. Animal!!!

I'm sure Donaldson thought you were some sort of queer or freak for watching everything the fella ate :P Can you remember anything about the actual match or did you not look onto the pitch? What was his teeth like? :D :D :D

I know one thing if i was at a match JD would be last thing I'd wanna view as you would think he was beat with the ugly stick. If the match was that poor for you why didn't look at some lass with a short skirt ;)

Ill Decide are you for real, Donaldson thought i was some kind of freak, the man ate 4 Mars bars in less than an hour that's not human! I just thought you might be interested in the Crossmaglen diet as all clubs are trying to aspire to them. Perhaps a few more Mars Bar binges and you'd stand a chance!

Also ever think of taking up journalism. 'Sarsfields started like a house on fire and went 2 points up!' 2 point up Hardly a house on fire! More like a BBQ.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 24, 2008, 12:54:14 PM
Quote from: whoareya? on June 24, 2008, 12:46:44 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 23, 2008, 05:30:19 PM
Quote from: whoareya? on June 23, 2008, 12:46:59 PM
Now for something completely different! A few msgs back someone said John Donaldson didn't play for Cross yesterday. I'm not surprised. Now i don't know the man personally I've been lucky enough to get a slap in the mouth from him in a league game once but what I saw last sunday in Breffni Park was just unreal. I found myself standing beside him at the match and I'm not exaggerating this for effect. He ate 4 mars bars during the match!! He had 2 in him before half time then when the ref blew for half time he reached for the bag and I couldn't believe it another mars. One more with about ten mins to go. Animal!!!

I'm sure Donaldson thought you were some sort of queer or freak for watching everything the fella ate :P Can you remember anything about the actual match or did you not look onto the pitch? What was his teeth like? :D :D :D

I know one thing if i was at a match JD would be last thing I'd wanna view as you would think he was beat with the ugly stick. If the match was that poor for you why didn't look at some lass with a short skirt ;)

Ill Decide are you for real, Donaldson thought i was some kind of freak, the man ate 4 Mars bars in less than an hour that's not human! I just thought you might be interested in the Crossmaglen diet as all clubs are trying to aspire to them. Perhaps a few more Mars Bar binges and you'd stand a chance!

Also ever think of taking up journalism. 'Sarsfields started like a house on fire and went 2 points up!' 2 point up Hardly a house on fire! More like a BBQ.




I reckon the last thing 'illdecide' needs is a mars-bar binge son!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on June 24, 2008, 01:18:37 PM
 Re: Killean, Co Armagh
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2008, 02:48:18 PM »   

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The pitch is across the road from the chapel.  Cotttage Road? I think.  Possibly Clontigora Road.  But it is a full size pitch.  Not just for childer ??? ???

Hi lads this was posted on another thread by an Armagh man. Im not taking the piss but where does CHILDER come from?
I have heard Armagh people and some Monaghan use it before when they mean Children, is it just slang for children or is it tust poor pronunciation or your accents making Children sound different?

I suppose an accent wouldnt show up in typing?

Any answers men?? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 24, 2008, 01:56:12 PM
Yes ive an answer 'billy got rid' - go away and take a redner for asking such an irrelevant, stupid and boring question! WHO CARES! :P :-[ >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 24, 2008, 02:01:31 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 24, 2008, 01:56:12 PM
Yes ive an answer 'billy got rid' - go away and take a redner for asking such an irrelevant, stupid and boring question! WHO CARES! :P :-[ >:(

correct Ivedecided billy the kid- you must have little to do what a stupid post
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Dannymcfella on June 24, 2008, 02:11:40 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on June 24, 2008, 01:18:37 PM
Re: Killean, Co Armagh
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2008, 02:48:18 PM »   

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The pitch is across the road from the chapel.  Cotttage Road? I think.  Possibly Clontigora Road.  But it is a full size pitch.  Not just for childer ??? ???

Hi lads this was posted on another thread by an Armagh man. Im not taking the piss but where does CHILDER come from?
I have heard Armagh people and some Monaghan use it before when they mean Children, is it just slang for children or is it tust poor pronunciation or your accents making Children sound different?

I suppose an accent wouldnt show up in typing?

Any answers men?? 

So why post this on an ARMAGH CLUB FOOTBALL & HURLING thread?? idiot
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 24, 2008, 04:26:50 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 24, 2008, 12:54:14 PM
Quote from: whoareya? on June 24, 2008, 12:46:44 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 23, 2008, 05:30:19 PM
Quote from: whoareya? on June 23, 2008, 12:46:59 PM
Now for something completely different! A few msgs back someone said John Donaldson didn't play for Cross yesterday. I'm not surprised. Now i don't know the man personally I've been lucky enough to get a slap in the mouth from him in a league game once but what I saw last sunday in Breffni Park was just unreal. I found myself standing beside him at the match and I'm not exaggerating this for effect. He ate 4 mars bars during the match!! He had 2 in him before half time then when the ref blew for half time he reached for the bag and I couldn't believe it another mars. One more with about ten mins to go. Animal!!!

I'm sure Donaldson thought you were some sort of queer or freak for watching everything the fella ate :P Can you remember anything about the actual match or did you not look onto the pitch? What was his teeth like? :D :D :D

I know one thing if i was at a match JD would be last thing I'd wanna view as you would think he was beat with the ugly stick. If the match was that poor for you why didn't look at some lass with a short skirt ;)

Ill Decide are you for real, Donaldson thought i was some kind of freak, the man ate 4 Mars bars in less than an hour that's not human! I just thought you might be interested in the Crossmaglen diet as all clubs are trying to aspire to them. Perhaps a few more Mars Bar binges and you'd stand a chance!

Also ever think of taking up journalism. 'Sarsfields started like a house on fire and went 2 points up!' 2 point up Hardly a house on fire! More like a BBQ.




I reckon the last thing 'illdecide' needs is a mars-bar binge son!  ;D

YOU ARE ONE TO TALK IVEDECIDED 8) ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 24, 2008, 05:59:39 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 24, 2008, 12:16:35 PM
Also heard the old cry again at the Ogs and clans game. Bumpy o' Hagan was fouled in the middle of the pitch and he went to ground. One of the ogs supporters AKA a mouth shouted on "this ain't mournview park you know" Now wtf is this all about. I have witnessed this several time over the years. The majority of it has been in South Armagh. There are no Irish leagues teams in that neck of the woods so you can understand a little what they are refering too. But it is still a joke that some clown thinks he can shout that at people who have no more interest in soccer than the man on the moon.

This ogs fool fails to realise that Armagh city also have an Irish league team and are pretty much like Lurgan with regardes it being a town/city. So there are a lot of similarities. Both the ogs and the clans would be competing with soccer more so than south armagh teams, but they would have that hardcore groups that would always go to Gaelic no matter if it was a world cup final. This maddens me as these bamsticks on the line pay into games and think they can just shout out a load of shite. They would need to catch a grip.
well win there are a few of these w**ks at every club. these same boys would be the first men over to you to buy a drink after the match in the club,if you ever went into other teams clubs after games you would know this is just a bit of banter,like in clans?maghery games,there would be quite a bit of this.However if it was marty lavery they had shouted this at i would maybe agree(he likes a dive) but bumby wouldnt go down that easy and im sure the man that shouted it hid behind some1 when he done it.by the way do you ever shout  at games????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: whoareya? on June 24, 2008, 07:31:30 PM
Loughshore you seem to be the peacemaker on this site! Never really have a bad word to say about anyone I don't trust people like that probably a bit of a Judis in you! I don't know how anybody could agree with anything those two planks I'll Decide and I've decided say anyway. Clans boys know nothing about football!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 24, 2008, 09:35:02 PM
Quote from: whoareya? on June 24, 2008, 07:31:30 PM
Loughshore you seem to be the peacemaker on this site! Never really have a bad word to say about anyone I don't trust people like that probably a bit of a Judis in you! I don't know how anybody could agree with anything those two planks I'll Decide and I've decided say anyway. Clans boys know nothing about football!
whoareya?that  is the question? far a start i wasnt in agreement with i`ll decide or i`ve decided,i was replying to what winsam was saying.but i will agree with you when you say those to are planks though ;)i would also have to say you are a bit of a plank yourself,if you had looked closely at my post i had a few digs at the clans for not going into away teams clubs for a drink after their games and had also a little dig at one of thier players for diving and the supporter who shouted...so there i have had a go at quite a few people on this one thread...no more mr nice guy >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 25, 2008, 09:27:06 AM
And we all wonder why people are leaving the board with these new fools coming in and talking the biggest load of shite. Why don't you feck off back to Orchard county or wherever you came from. You're right about 1 thing though, every club has their fools and all of ours are on this board...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: whoareya? on June 25, 2008, 09:59:34 AM
I'll decide I think your last post was a bit harsh but I'm not going to go into that. I was at the clans game the other night and have been to a few home Clans matches when our boys are away and I want to know who the big lad along side Bumpy in the midfield? He doesn't do anything spectacular but he's solid and a good ball winner and has been one of your best players when I've seen you this season. Well apart from against Ogs but he was marking Clarke so I'll excuse that!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 25, 2008, 10:42:23 AM
Quote from: whoareya? on June 25, 2008, 09:59:34 AM
I'll decide I think your last post was a bit harsh but I'm not going to go into that. I was at the clans game the other night and have been to a few home Clans matches when our boys are away and I want to know who the big lad along side Bumpy in the midfield? He doesn't do anything spectacular but he's solid and a good ball winner and has been one of your best players when I've seen you this season. Well apart from against Ogs but he was marking Clarke so I'll excuse that!

Stephen O Hagan's the name, he's a cousin of Bumpy's and you're right he won't do anything specticular but he a steady player who can field a ball and lay it off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 25, 2008, 11:37:00 AM
Loughshore i am well aware that in every set of supporters there are slabbers and to be honest we have more than our fair share of them. I don't even mind them shouting onto the pitch but i do take offence to the likes of that Og's  tr**p shouting the like of that at lads who have dedictaed a hell of a lot of time to Gaelic football. To turn around and make a remark about mourneview park is a complete disgrace. Yes i have also shouted at football matches and it is mostly directed at the refs. I very rarely shout at other players as i at least give them the respect they deserve for the committment they put in.

The point about not going into other teams clubs after games, We usually do go into other teams clubs after away games. This year we have been into Cullovilles, Cross, Killeavy, Harps, and st pats. I guess this is because someone has actually came in after the game and said to the lads that there are sandwiches in the bar or wherever. I ain't sure the reason why we don't go into maghery and to be honest i wasn't even aware they had a club (Is their club the tiny building onto their changing rooms???). But one thing is for sure it isn't done out of any malice. It is not as if we sit down before games and say "we won't go into their club after the game, That will show them". Usually when we are playing other North Armagh teams we usually come stripped and all. I guess it is just a habit. But it is not meant to cause offence.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 25, 2008, 11:59:01 AM
Will ya come into Dromintee?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 25, 2008, 12:02:27 PM
Quote from: corn02 on June 25, 2008, 11:59:01 AM
Will ya come into Dromintee?

you better believe we will, we always get looked after there with good grub. In fact 1 year you had a festival on and we were served up 1/4 pounder burgers. Thats what we want for the next match (maybe a pint to if you can spare it :D)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 25, 2008, 12:10:16 PM
I'll decide is correct i would have to say Dromintee was one of the best feeds ever after the old club game. There was chicken nuggets and the works flying that night. Them women do a good job behind the scenes  ;) I never mentioned Dromintee up above because we haven't been u there this year. But you can keep us a spot corn ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 25, 2008, 12:15:54 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 25, 2008, 12:10:16 PM
I'll decide is correct i would have to say Dromintee was one of the best feeds ever after the old club game. There was chicken nuggets and the works flying that night. Them women do a good job behind the scenes  ;) I never mentioned Dromintee up above because we haven't been u there this year. But you can keep us a spot corn ;)

Correct WSW great feeding and there was a ann summers on in the hall- all good lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 25, 2008, 01:46:01 PM
Quote from: whoareya? on June 24, 2008, 07:31:30 PM
Loughshore you seem to be the peacemaker on this site! Never really have a bad word to say about anyone I don't trust people like that probably a bit of a Judis in you! I don't know how anybody could agree with anything those two planks I'll Decide and I've decided say anyway. Clans boys know nothing about football!

I aint no bluenose son - and ive certainly nothing in common with that balloon 'ill decide'. He claims to be a Clans man but any proper Clansmen I know certainly wouldnt lick the asses off the Cross men like he does the ones on this board!  ;D And you claim people know nothiong about football - what great club do you hail from that makes you an authority?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 25, 2008, 07:44:04 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 25, 2008, 12:10:16 PM
I'll decide is correct i would have to say Dromintee was one of the best feeds ever after the old club game. There was chicken nuggets and the works flying that night. Them women do a good job behind the scenes  ;) I never mentioned Dromintee up above because we haven't been u there this year. But you can keep us a spot corn ;)
i have to agree dromintee do a good feed, best sandwhiches we've got al year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 25, 2008, 11:50:56 PM
jesus is this a gaa board or a tribute to dromintees gordon ramsey. :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 26, 2008, 12:01:49 AM
The last i looked charlie lad drominee was in Armagh so we have decided to post about their choice of delicasy  :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 26, 2008, 12:10:50 AM
goodnight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rubberneck on June 26, 2008, 01:13:33 AM
As a neutral last night i watched an U14 Div 1 Championship Final between Killeavey and St.Josephs, gr8 game it was expected that killeavey (All County feile winners) would walk over the opposition but not the case has to be the closested anyone has got to this team all season but the st.josephs lads really put it to them ended with a score line that didnt do justice to the game 2-11 to 0-10 good luck to killeavey in the All Ireland Finals boys ;D ;D South Armagh clubs at underage have to be the strongest in the county ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 26, 2008, 07:51:37 AM
A very good Granemore side defeated the reigning champions Ballyhegan in the Mid B Championship final last night in Ballycrummy.

Granemore have a strong midfield & half forward line backed up by an excellent half back line. Good luck to them in All County Championship.

The best team won comfortably with a scoreline of 2.11 - 1.04
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 26, 2008, 08:43:10 AM
Quote from: Rubberneck on June 26, 2008, 01:13:33 AM
As a neutral last night i watched an U14 Div 1 Championship Final between Killeavey and St.Josephs

Who are st joseph's?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 26, 2008, 12:09:32 PM

QuoteWho are st joseph's?

When I was playing they were an amalgamation of Corrinshego, O'Hanlons and Lisummon. If that's the case, its some turnaround for them to be making championship finals. Useta take some awful hammerings.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 26, 2008, 12:16:10 PM
Well lads any predictions for the weekend???
Doesn't look good for Na Clairsigh, serious amount of injuries etc.....  :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 26, 2008, 01:17:03 PM
Quote from: Candyman on June 26, 2008, 12:16:10 PM
Well lads any predictions for the weekend???
Doesn't look good for Na Clairsigh, serious amount of injuries etc.....  :-[

13 27/06/2008 20:00    Maghery  -  Cullaville  -    AW
13 27/06/2008 20:00    Pearse Og  -  Crossmaglen  -  AW
13 27/06/2008 20:00    Mullabawn  -  Killeavy  -  AW
13 27/06/2008 20:00    Clan na Gael  -  Harps - HW hopefully by 15  points   ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 26, 2008, 01:44:06 PM
I don't think corrinshigo are involved with st josephs any more? i could be wrong though as i'm no longer "of this parish"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 26, 2008, 01:52:40 PM
Quote from: Candyman on June 26, 2008, 12:16:10 PM
Well lads any predictions for the weekend???
Doesn't look good for Na Clairsigh, serious amount of injuries etc.....  :-[

Is that a wee preemptive cry I hear Candyman?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on June 26, 2008, 01:53:17 PM
anyone for laceys on sunday nite to celebrate victory?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 26, 2008, 01:56:36 PM
Apparently Laceys disco is closed at the weekends and is only opening Sunday nights of bank holiday weekends. Are they opening it after Armagh matches as well?

Haven't been in years but still - end of an era.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 26, 2008, 02:04:19 PM
Any bit of wonder they are the strongest in the county when they are amalgamating every left right and centre . Every year brings a new team.

13 27/06/2008 20:00    Maghery  -  Cullaville  -  Cullaville   
13 27/06/2008 20:00    Pearse Og  -  Crossmaglen  -  Cross
13 27/06/2008 20:00    Mullabawn  -  Killeavy  -  Mullaghbawn
13 27/06/2008 20:00    Clan na Gael  -  Harps - Clans (Bonus)    :D ;) Spreads tourny without the spreads. It is a surpirise that Dromintee have no game fixed.

Was there not an argument about them always calling games off >:( ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 26, 2008, 02:30:37 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 26, 2008, 02:04:19 PM

Was there not an argument about them always calling games off >:( ???

How do you know it was them that callled it off?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 26, 2008, 02:36:23 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 26, 2008, 02:04:19 PM
Any bit of wonder they are the strongest in the county when they are amalgamating every left right and centre . Every year brings a new team.
13 27/06/2008 20:00    Maghery  -  Cullaville  -  Cullaville  
13 27/06/2008 20:00    Pearse Og  -  Crossmaglen  -  Cross
13 27/06/2008 20:00    Mullabawn  -  Killeavy  -  Mullaghbawn
13 27/06/2008 20:00    Clan na Gael  -  Harps - Clans (Bonus)    :D ;) Spreads tourny without the spreads. It is a surpirise that Dromintee have no game fixed.

Was there not an argument about them always calling games off >:( ???

Is this is dig at Cross for some reason?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 26, 2008, 02:44:57 PM
No son Dromintee have been calling games off willy nilly this past few years when they are struggling to win games. They do this through their alyy on the fixtures committee - Seamus Mc Donagh. Its not a swipe at Cross at all. Not everything corrupt and sinister going on at board level is attributed to Cross you know - just 90% of it! ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 26, 2008, 03:11:09 PM
I am sure you know the facts alright,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 26, 2008, 03:26:38 PM
Quote from: corn02 on June 26, 2008, 03:11:09 PM
I am sure you know the facts alright,


Oh stop, please your killing me! Moderators please!! This guy is out of control with his responses! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 26, 2008, 03:48:13 PM
I posted one statement and Both a cross lad and a Dromintee lad both took offence at it. I don't know what way they are reading these things.

The answer to the two questions are that it wasn't a dig at anyone. I was simply stating that there was an argument about Dromintee and fixtures earlier on the board.

Corn you replied by saying how do you know it was them that called it off. I don't know who called it off but i will say this. Dromintee have been involved in a lot of fixtures that have been cancelled . I don't know who called them off but i can tell you now they weren't all called off by the other teams. Even the most die hard club supporters on here wouldn't be as bare faced to say this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on June 26, 2008, 03:51:18 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 26, 2008, 01:56:36 PM
Apparently Laceys disco is closed at the weekends and is only opening Sunday nights of bank holiday weekends. Are they opening it after Armagh matches as well?

Haven't been in years but still - end of an era.

is it not closed completey because they were trying to get 5 star staus for the hotel and so can't have a disco any more? thats what i heard anyhow.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 26, 2008, 04:02:14 PM
Winsamsoon I was wondering how you could be referring to Dromintee as you said the were the strongest in the county and that is clearly wrong!

It is no advantage for teams to get games called off, unless that is they are worried bout losing them and getting relegated ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 26, 2008, 04:16:38 PM
Its not clear who he's referring to. it seems he thinks someone is amalgamating to become the strongest team in the county - presumably at underage level. in fact i don't really know if thats what he means either.

surely none of the better teams in the county would be relegated?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 26, 2008, 04:16:43 PM
Boom boom indeed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 26, 2008, 04:37:23 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 26, 2008, 04:16:38 PM
Its not clear who he's referring to. it seems he thinks someone is amalgamating to become the strongest team in the county - presumably at underage level. in fact i don't really know if thats what he means either.

surely none of the better teams in the county would be relegated?

dont be so sure lads the clanns are in the top 4 in the county and always have been yet other team conspired to relegate them three years back- anything can happen ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 26, 2008, 05:46:59 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 25, 2008, 11:37:00 AM
Loughshore i am well aware that in every set of supporters there are slabbers and to be honest we have more than our fair share of them. I don't even mind them shouting onto the pitch but i do take offence to the likes of that Og's  tr**p shouting the like of that at lads who have dedictaed a hell of a lot of time to Gaelic football. To turn around and make a remark about mourneview park is a complete disgrace. Yes i have also shouted at football matches and it is mostly directed at the refs. I very rarely shout at other players as i at least give them the respect they deserve for the committment they put in.

The point about not going into other teams clubs after games, We usually do go into other teams clubs after away games. This year we have been into Cullovilles, Cross, Killeavy, Harps, and st pats. I guess this is because someone has actually came in after the game and said to the lads that there are sandwiches in the bar or wherever. I ain't sure the reason why we don't go into maghery and to be honest i wasn't even aware they had a club (Is their club the tiny building onto their changing rooms???). But one thing is for sure it isn't done out of any malice. It is not as if we sit down before games and say "we won't go into their club after the game, That will show them". Usually when we are playing other North Armagh teams we usually come stripped and all. I guess it is just a habit. But it is not meant to cause offence.
a few points winsam,is it not part of gaa tradition to go into other teams clubs for a drink n that after games. also yes maghery do have a club and a very good one at that but sure you clans ones wouldnt know this as you stand on the bridge to watch games in maghery so you dont have to pay the entrance fee.we also have a great field which is always lined out not like youre own may i add.i could go on all day about how better our set is than your own but i wont come down to youre level but i might as well thats why no one in the county has a good word to say about use....oh aye by the way wee own our own field not leased off the council.. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 26, 2008, 06:18:36 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on June 26, 2008, 04:37:23 PM
lads the clanns are in the top 4 in the county and always have been yet other team conspired to relegate them three years back- anything can happen ::)

other teams don't relegate you
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 26, 2008, 06:39:04 PM
Ok loughshore you have had your rant and i don't know what you are refering to when you say my level. All i was doing was asking had they got a club because i genuinely didn't know. I also have never paid into a match at Maghery because any time that i have been out there i have been playing . But fair play you have lines on your pitch :-\, you have a great set up :'(, You have probably better catch nets :o, You have probably a better skip ffs :-*. Of all these things that you have that are better than the clans, do you not take a step back and wonder Is anything missing?????  The most claring omission is a team you numpty. You see you can have all the possessions in the world but if your team is shite then it is shite.

You see when you are relegated this year then all these possessions that you speak of will be not worth a shite. But it is ok the lads from the Peters and the Tones will come in and eat your sandwiches. They own their pitches aswell so you can have a lovely wee chat about possessions because there will clearly be no conversations about success. Catch a grip you plank.


For the other lads when i said the amalgamations i was talking about this St Joseph's team. I have already stated before i don't mind amalgamations if they are genuinely to give lads a game of football. When they start challenging for trophies then one must ask themselves is this fair on the other teams that have to scrap together the players to go out and get hammered. Plus them amalgamated teams don't own their own pitch :D ;) FFS

On the postponing of games i was just saying it is a coincidence that Dromintee seem to be involved in a lot of games being called off, more so than other teams. I never said a reason for this i was just making an observation. Oh and by the way i think we will be looking our game off with them  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rubberneck on June 26, 2008, 07:00:38 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 26, 2008, 06:39:04 PM
Ok loughshore you have had your rant and i don't know what you are refering to when you say my level. All i was doing was asking had they got a club because i genuinely didn't know. I also have never paid into a match at Maghery because any time that i have been out there i have been playing . But fair play you have lines on your pitch :-\, you have a great set up :'(, You have probably better catch nets :o, You have probably a better skip ffs :-*. Of all these things that you have that are better than the clans, do you not take a step back and wonder Is anything missing?????  The most claring omission is a team you numpty. You see you can have all the possessions in the world but if your team is shite then it is shite.

You see when you are relegated this year then all these possessions that you speak of will be not worth a shite. But it is ok the lads from the Peters and the Tones will come in and eat your sandwiches. They own their pitches aswell so you can have a lovely wee chat about possessions because there will clearly be no conversations about success. Catch a grip you plank.


For the other lads when i said the amalgamations i was talking about this St Joseph's team. I have already stated before i don't mind amalgamations if they are genuinely to give lads a game of football. When they start challenging for trophies then one must ask themselves is this fair on the other teams that have to scrap together the players to go out and get hammered. Plus them amalgamated teams don't own their own pitch :D ;) FFS

On the postponing of games i was just saying it is a coincidence that Dromintee seem to be involved in a lot of games being called off, more so than other teams. I never said a reason for this i was just making an observation. Oh and by the way i think we will be looking our game off with them  :D :D :D
So i take it that its ok to beat the crap out of these amalgamations and those kids are to take it all but when they start to contest for trophies then you think theyv'e no rite to do so, pathetic >:(I'm glad to see these clubs starting to make waves coming from one of the older clubs in the deep south and what i could see the other night killeavey could have fielded another team and the st.josephs team looked like they just about had the 15 players. swing on monkey boy  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 26, 2008, 08:39:01 PM
Swing on monkey boy

Yet another new comer that is a plank

Firstly i never mentioned beating the crap out of no one and secondly no they shoouldn't be allowed to amalgamate a team to win the actual trophy. It wasn't designed for this purpose and it is wrong. It has been exploited by smaller clubs that are trying to achieve artificial success. Sure if this was the case what would stop the stronger teams combining??? sure no one would beat them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 26, 2008, 09:39:54 PM
looks like u not very popular winsam,i wonder why that is and if you are so sure wee will be relegated,would you like to lose a few pound.you can call down to the club and i will gladly take whatever you want off you laeve it behind the bar and then let the boys have a drink on you when we stay up,or i will go to davitt park and leave it behind your bar till the end of the season.(if it wouldnt be stolen from behind the bar,which lets face it wouldnt be the first time) however if wee do go down wee can get a few tips from youre good self on div 2 as you have been there yourselfs not so long ago ;D ;D ;what is you say [Edited by Mod3]
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 26, 2008, 09:46:43 PM
in fairness winsam i saw maghery play clans in the league at davitt and they gave yas your fill of it.  if maghery do go down they will come straight bak up again, they have been an emerging team in recent years held their own in the division and where very close to the championship final.  they seemed very thin on the line that night i would imagine missing a good few through injury. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 26, 2008, 09:49:45 PM
QuoteYou have probably better catch nets Shocked, You have probably a better skip ffs Kiss. Of all these things that you have that are better than the clans, do you not take a step back and wonder Is anything missing?

Speaking of the Clans setup, yis need to sort out them rusted cages things you expect people to walk through! Shockin looking altogether!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 26, 2008, 10:20:06 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/irish/7474795.stm

Quote
Jeffrey silence on Downey future

Linfield manager David Jeffrey has declined to comment on the outcome of his meeting with the Blues Board regarding the future of Conor Downey.

Downey has submitted a transfer request and it is thought that Ballymena United and Cliftonville would be interested in the player if he was made available.

Jeffrey said on Tuesday that United boss Roy Walker had already inquired about Downey's availability.

The Reds have also been linked with Downey but have not made any inquiries.

"Cliftonville's position is that we have not made any approach to Linfield because we do not know if Conor is available or on the transfer list," said manager Eddie Patterson.

"He is still under contract at Windsor Park and until that position changes and I am told he is on the transfer list, nothing will happen."

Downey joined Linfield from Cliftonville in January 2007 for an undisclosed fee.

The Blues saw off challenges from Glentoran, Portadown and Derry City to land the highly-rated midfielder.

A long-term knee injury has limited Downey's appearances for the league champions and it is understood that his transfer request was discussed on Tuesday evening.

Meanwhile Linfield are also understood to be in talks with former Northern Ireland midfielder Philip Mulryne and ex-Cliftonville and Lisburn Distillery frontman John Martin while Northern Ireland Under-21 striker Paul Carvill is also a target.

Is the Paul Carville mentioned the fella who plays for Tir na nÓg?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on June 27, 2008, 12:07:30 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 26, 2008, 01:56:36 PM
Apparently Laceys disco is closed at the weekends and is only opening Sunday nights of bank holiday weekends. Are they opening it after Armagh matches as well?

Haven't been in years but still - end of an era.
your not missing much still a dump full of kids
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rubberneck on June 27, 2008, 12:38:42 AM
Yet again someone who thinks its only the big clubs who are entitled to engrave their names on the Division 1 trophies, if this is rite then why are some of our "big" clubs suposedly throwing games eg; withholding players in certain games so that they get into a possition that means they can win a trophy at any cost in leagues that they shouldnt be in.  ??? In the south i know that these amalgamated teams are usually put into the top leagues so that they dont just run out over the smaller clubs and they take their beatings in these leagues from us and the rest but once in a while not to often they get a team who works well so whats the problem if you earn your strips why can't you wear them ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 27, 2008, 01:41:59 AM
Loughshore you are a bookies delight . You are providing even money on maghery staying in division one this year. That is the best bet i have heard this century. You know that much about the clans bar, perhaps you should stay out of bars a little more, sounds like a problem on the horizon.

I'll have £100 on with you that maghery go down because they are certainly a bad lot.

Someone is using our game with maghery at Davitt as a yardstick. So what does this mean then if culloville beat us well, then we draw with cross, then culloville get hammered by cross. What logic comes out of that???I will answer that, football is all on the day anyone can beat anyone. This most certainly doesn' make you a good team.

Oh please will you extend those betting odds on maghery's relegation to the rest of the leads on here. I would say you will get a few takers at evs.

Rubberneck, you are once again making up things. Where did i say that it was only bigger teams tha had a right to have their names on trophies. by all means smaller clubs are well entitled to do so and i actually would cheer them on because it is a greater achievement. But when it is an amalgamation of 3 teams that are coming through to challenge whilst the smaller clubs are still struggling, Is this fair on the smaller clubs?? I wouldn't think it. I have seen it happen. At under age i saw maghery and ballyhegan combine to form the shamrocks. These teams were there or there abouts in all underage competitions. This isn't fair on the likes of St Paul's or the Peter's who work equally as hard as anyone on their underage structures but have to play with the hand they are dealt.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 27, 2008, 01:43:29 AM
By the way lads Loughshore is offering evs dollars that maghery will stay in division 1 this year. :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 27, 2008, 01:47:38 AM
TacadoirArdMhacha, I take it you are refering to the turnstyles????

Sure why would we pay for something that we don't own :D :D Makes no economic sense man. Not that anyone comes through them that often anyway. Sure they are only used for county games and they are a dime a dozen.

If you leave your recommendations i will see the committee takes them on board. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 27, 2008, 08:07:53 AM
QuoteAt under age i saw maghery and ballyhegan combine to form the shamrocks. These teams were there or there abouts in all underage competitions. This isn't fair on the likes of St Paul's or the Peter's who work equally as hard as anyone on their underage structures but have to play with the hand they are dealt.

Shamrocks formed when I was 15. Before hand we were playing 4 years under our age group - just to make up the numbers. The laws changed around this time, meaning you weren't allowed to do this, hence the amalgamation.

Thankfully this has changed in recent times & we no longer require 'help' from neighbours to fill a team sheet at each age group!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 27, 2008, 08:13:15 AM
Goats I don't know what age you are but I recall playing hamrocks when I was a minor, Ciaran Raff's team,and that was 15 years ago.  Do thy still amalgamate?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 27, 2008, 08:20:21 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 27, 2008, 08:13:15 AM
Goats I don't know what age you are but I recall playing hamrocks when I was a minor, Ciaran Raff's team,and that was 15 years ago.  Do thy still amalgamate?

I'm 26. We played as Ballyhegan when I was U14, then stepped up to play as Shamrocks the following year. (Actually played U16 for Ballyhegan also!)

The big problem was the year your home games were in Maghery... running with your mouth firmly shut!!!!  :P

Amalgamation ended maybe 3 years ago & we moved back to the Mid Armagh board.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 27, 2008, 10:32:45 AM
Yeah goats you would  be about accurate on the issue of the shamrocks. I played against maghery at under age u-10 and 12 and maghery always challenged us for the league and championship. Then suddenly at under 14 level they amalgamated with Ballyhegan. So we now had a team that was already challenging for the leagues at u-10 and u-12 combining with another team at under 14 to make them even stronger. For the record they still never won th league but the difference was noticeable. We still had teams like St Paul's and St Peter's that were getting thumped by these amalgamated teams. I still stand by the fact that this was wrong and should not be allowed to happen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 27, 2008, 10:40:23 AM
Quote from: loughshorelad on June 26, 2008, 09:39:54 PM
looks like u not very popular winsam,i wonder why that is and if you are so sure wee will be relegated,would you like to lose a few pound.you can call down to the club and i will gladly take whatever you want off you laeve it behind the bar and then let the boys have a drink on you when we stay up,or i will go to davitt park and leave it behind your bar till the end of the season.(if it wouldnt be stolen from behind the bar,which lets face it wouldnt be the first time) however if wee do go down wee can get a few tips from youre good self on div 2 as you have been there yourselfs not so long ago ;D ;D ;what is you say (mod3)

Listeni will have a £100 that maghery go down[Edited Mod3]
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 27, 2008, 10:55:00 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 27, 2008, 10:32:45 AM
Yeah goats you would  be about accurate on the issue of the shamrocks. I played against maghery at under age u-10 and 12 and maghery always challenged us for the league and championship. Then suddenly at under 14 level they amalgamated with Ballyhegan. So we now had a team that was already challenging for the leagues at u-10 and u-12 combining with another team at under 14 to make them even stronger. For the record they still never won th league but the difference was noticeable. We still had teams like St Paul's and St Peter's that were getting thumped by these amalgamated teams. I still stand by the fact that this was wrong and should not be allowed to happen.

1 team being fielded is better than 0 teams being fielded!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 27, 2008, 01:29:28 PM
Ill have some of that Maghery action! Sure they wont be able to stay off their sisters long enough to win football matches!  ;D Hillbillies! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 27, 2008, 03:21:51 PM
QuoteTacadoirArdMhacha, I take it you are refering to the turnstyles?

Na I meant that structure you pass through to get from the clubhouse to the pitch. Didn't realise Clans didn't own Davitt Park. Is the County Board that own it then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 27, 2008, 03:40:02 PM
Bit of a joke if i rememebr win telling us one day? They wont sell to the club or something?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 27, 2008, 03:41:28 PM
No they dont although they like to think they do. Davitt park was built by the people of Lurgan - for the people of Lurgan. Clan na Gael have it on a 999 year lease which basically means its theirs. They cant buy it outright cause it cant be bought.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 27, 2008, 03:44:22 PM
 Ballyhegan v St Peter's (S McClatchey)

Looking forward to tonight's game, a warm up for the championship!

Big Sam was on the line on Wednesday night for the B final, one of the Ballyhegan lads tried to take a quick free, only for a Granemore lad to block the kick with his foot/leg.
The ref threw the ball up for some reason, someone in the crowd shouted "for fook sake!"

- The boul Sam replied, without a flinch "Learn the rules..." - Ha ha! class!

Found out the other night that Big Sam runs the referee courses & is involved in assessing the fitness tests! Class!!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 27, 2008, 04:18:32 PM
cullyhanna have one off the best set ups in that 1st DIV
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 27, 2008, 04:46:48 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 27, 2008, 01:29:28 PM
Ill have some of that Maghery action! Sure they wont be able to stay off their sisters long enough to win football matches!  ;D Hillbillies! ;D
very good ivedecided very good indeed.did you think of that one all by yourself are did some1 help you..i didnt think you would have £100 to spare out of youre D.L.A money to lose on gambling but sure there isnt much else to do in lurgan i suppose..spade.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshorelad on June 27, 2008, 04:51:25 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 27, 2008, 08:13:15 AM
Goats I don't know what age you are but I recall playing hamrocks when I was a minor, Ciaran Raff's team,and that was 15 years ago.  Do thy still amalgamate?
maghery hadnt joined with the apple men when ra was minor it was a few years after that,but as goats rightly said it better fielding a team on youre own than joining up with other teams that not on the same level as youself as maghery have won more at underage level since the split than with it ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 27, 2008, 05:22:01 PM
Lads what are you all like "our pitch is better than yours" and "our drainage is better than yours" "we own our pitch and you don't" Jesus grow up and stop acting like teenagers, if you have nothing worth while to say then say f**k all.

As for being from Lurgan, well i know it's not the best of places to live in but don't tar everyone with the same brush we are not all part of the "Buckfast Brigade" and Lurgan is like every other town it has it's clampets and it's decent people. In fact i believe Maghery have a few clampets too. And don't dare associate that fool "IVEDECIDED" with Clan na Gael as he does not have a club, he just likes to destroy others and i'm sure if you ask him he'll tell you that there is always a bottle of Buckie or 2 in the boot of his car at any time...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rubberneck on June 27, 2008, 05:46:55 PM
williamsoon i take your points on board but for 2 things 1) this amalgamation has only 2 clubs lissummon and o'hanlons and is as far as im aware is the oldest amalgamation in the county at over 30 years 2) this was as far as im aware the 1st time ever that this club has ever competed at this level and got to a final and i've been around for a long time. i say fair play to them to take the right step and move up into the higher division and take their chances. Footballs all about a game off chance and on that i hope that Armagh take all there chances on sunday Good Luck to the guys ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on June 27, 2008, 09:48:23 PM
Killeavey beat Mullaghbawn by 5 points...we were a bloody joke...tell u what if we dont get out act 2gether we are goin down..5 difficult lookin games left for us as well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on June 27, 2008, 10:16:58 PM
Heard on the grapevine Wcross bt Sarsfields by 4 or 5 and Cruppen were beat by Clann Eireann.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BRIDGE LAD on June 27, 2008, 11:19:46 PM
Anyone need tickets for sunday? Got two spares over!
Send me a message! Cheers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on June 27, 2008, 11:21:15 PM
Annaghmore beat Belleek 1-7 to 0-7 tonight in Belleek.  Slightly better of the two teams to be honest.  Belleek may feel hard done by the own goal that was originally signalled by both umpires before their umpirethen changed his mind.  Looked a clear goal from my pretty good view tbh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 28, 2008, 12:04:57 AM
Division 1

Cross 0-13  Ogs 0-06
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on June 28, 2008, 12:34:07 AM
I heard Harps were well beaten by Clans 2nite, Its getting very close at the bottom now 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on June 28, 2008, 07:59:30 AM
cruppen got well beat by clann eireann last night by 6 points in the end. dire performance put an end to recent winning streak of 6 or 7 matches.

only plus to come out of the game was that whitecross had beat sarsfields so they never gained any ground on us at the top. although having said that if you want to be contesting for the league you should be winning your own matches and not relying on other teams to 'do you a favour'!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 28, 2008, 09:17:00 AM
Tullysaran beat the grange by 3points last nite, valuable points gained for the saran in the relegation dog fight!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 28, 2008, 09:52:07 AM
Any other results??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 28, 2008, 10:57:42 AM
Clans beat Harps 3.9 - 0.9 i think. Three home games next and three wins needed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 28, 2008, 11:23:54 AM
clans 3-11 Harps 0-08 Played rightly last night but that is a poor harps team lads.

Rubberneck we will agree to disagree lad, the mods are on our cases so we are best cooling it .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 28, 2008, 11:37:02 AM
if the clans were missing 7-8 starting players they would struggle, its not a great harps team but when all players were not to bad. No doutb last night clans were deserved winners, marsden's 1st class.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 28, 2008, 11:47:17 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on June 28, 2008, 11:37:02 AM
if the clans were missing 7-8 starting players they would struggle, its not a great harps team but when all players were not to bad. No doutb last night clans were deserved winners, marsden's 1st class.

If any team is missing 7-8 starting players they'll struggle ::)  Any of the Og's lads on/crossfire.  How did the game go, I know Cross won but any sort of a report?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on June 28, 2008, 12:57:27 PM
Anybody got a couple of spare tickets? Do you reckon there will be any available on the day? We're short 2.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on June 28, 2008, 01:03:36 PM
ticketmaster
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 28, 2008, 01:20:38 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 27, 2008, 01:41:59 AM
Loughshore you are a bookies delight . You are providing even money on maghery staying in division one this year. That is the best bet i have heard this century. You know that much about the clans bar, perhaps you should stay out of bars a little more, sounds like a problem on the horizon.

I'll have £100 on with you that maghery go down because they are certainly a bad lot.

Someone is using our game with maghery at Davitt as a yardstick. So what does this mean then if culloville beat us well, then we draw with cross, then culloville get hammered by cross. What logic comes out of that???I will answer that, football is all on the day anyone can beat anyone. This most certainly doesn' make you a good team.

Oh please will you extend those betting odds on maghery's relegation to the rest of the leads on here. I would say you will get a few takers at evs.

Rubberneck, you are once again making up things. Where did i say that it was only bigger teams tha had a right to have their names on trophies. by all means smaller clubs are well entitled to do so and i actually would cheer them on because it is a greater achievement. But when it is an amalgamation of 3 teams that are coming through to challenge whilst the smaller clubs are still struggling, Is this fair on the smaller clubs?? I wouldn't think it. I have seen it happen. At under age i saw maghery and ballyhegan combine to form the shamrocks. These teams were there or there abouts in all underage competitions. This isn't fair on the likes of St Paul's or the Peter's who work equally as hard as anyone on their underage structures but have to play with the hand they are dealt.

whats your yardtivk the 80's??i have saw the clans once the year and just saying that maghery gave as good as they got.

also, correct me if im wrong(which im not) where st.pauls not amalgamated with eire og previously and naned "emmets"?

fair point about magghery though they always challenged at underage. i mind we played shamerocks about ten years at u14 they had 18 subs!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 28, 2008, 02:07:07 PM
Quotewhats your yardtivk the 80's??i have saw the clans once the year and just saying that maghery gave as good as they got.

In fairness, bar Cross, Clans have been the best team we've played in the league this year.

Quotewilliamsoon i take your points on board but for 2 things 1) this amalgamation has only 2 clubs lissummon and o'hanlons and is as far as im aware is the oldest amalgamation in the county at over 30 years 2) this was as far as im aware the 1st time ever that this club has ever competed at this level and got to a final and i've been around for a long time. i say fair play to them to take the right step and move up into the higher division and take their chances

Would absolutely agree with this and I don't think anybody would object in the slightest to small clubs like O'Hanlon's and Lissummon amalgmating. Amazing to see them doing so well but fair play. Some clubs are simply unable to put underage teams out so without amalgations young players will be lost to bigger clubs which would be the death of many of the smaller clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on June 28, 2008, 04:54:26 PM
wuz at crupps/c eirenn game.wot the f**k is wrong with cruppen? seems like all they du is yap at ech other.dont look lake they wnt 2 go up.c eirenn seemd 2 wnt the gme more.when in the mood they will bet alot of teams.how the f**k did wcross bet sarsfield?sarsfield must hve ben on the rip on thurs.tones bet by nab as well,bad result fur tones against a bad nab outfit
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 28, 2008, 05:01:36 PM
cullyhanna are doing well in DIV 1 for a team that came up last year and they are missing 5,6 first team players though one thing or another.if culyhanna get all there players back and fit for the c ship they will be hard to beat there to good off a team to be playing inter c ship.they will finsh well up in that first DIV.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 28, 2008, 05:06:39 PM
Charlie i am the one saying that the amalgamations are wrong. I am not a St Paul's man and i only used them as an example. But yes they did combine a few years back to form the emmets.

Any team missing 7 or 8 would obviously struggle. We are missing 4 or 5 ourselves but we are on a decent run at the moment.

On a separate issue lads, I am just back from the finish of the North Armagh gaelic week. I have to say it was a fantastic week and was rounded of brilliantly with the parade and the music at Davitt Park. Fair play to all involved in running it and may it long continue.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 28, 2008, 05:38:02 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on June 28, 2008, 09:52:07 AM
Any other results??

Ballyhegan 1.12 St Peters 1.05

Another fine performance from the ever improving Davitts. 4 wins on the bounce & we're building up for the Championship nicely with our 3 county men to come back plus 3 or 4 other regulars.

Ballyhegan came back from a slow start to lead 0.06 - 0.05 at the interval, where both sides seemed evenly matched. However, in the second half the Davitts came out of the traps blazing with Neil McCann & Barry Murphy playing blinders in the full back line. Half backs Conor Morgan & Plunkett McCormack set up countless attacks and Mark Hughes, Eoin Reynolds & Kevin Keegan causing all sorts of trouble in the full forwards! Only for St Peter's All Ireland winning goal keeper Paul Wilson, saving at least 4 goal chances and a last minute consolation goal the scoreline could have been very embarrassing for the Lurgan men.

Edit: By the way big Sam didn't referee Friday night's encounter. Mr Kevin McNeice of Annaghmore took control, & had a splendid hour IMO. Very sensible referee!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on June 28, 2008, 09:58:14 PM
Quote from: altovito on June 28, 2008, 04:54:26 PM
wuz at crupps/c eirenn game.wot the f**k is wrong with cruppen? seems like all they du is yap at ech other.dont look lake they wnt 2 go up.c eirenn seemd 2 wnt the gme more.when in the mood they will bet alot of teams.how the f**k did wcross bet sarsfield?sarsfield must hve ben on the rip on thurs.tones bet by nab as well,bad result fur tones against a bad nab outfit

funny enough thats 4 points the nab has taken of tones this year - doesnt say much 4 the tones then eh altovito?!

any1 got an updated league table?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 29, 2008, 08:07:52 PM
To Broken Crossbar.
Cross v Og's
Cross controlled this game from the start although it took them some time to convert their superiority onto the scoreboard and it was 2 points apiece after 20 mins. Cross led by 3 at half time despite having 11 wides.

Cross made better use of their chances in the second half and despite a spirited comeback from Og's we kept tagging on the points to eventually win by 7.

Key men were the twins and Mickey Mac, although John Murtagh was top scorer with 7 points, mostly from frees. Martin Aherne also had a good game and scored two points from play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 30, 2008, 02:23:12 PM
I know the clans have been playing well this last month but we know the teams that we have beaten are without their main players (core of their team) and will be a totaly different team come championship time. The only team getting away with it at the minute is Cross, so in a way it's hard to judge where you are at the minute regarding how strong you think you are
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 30, 2008, 05:32:31 PM

How much much do you think the leagues are devalued and what is the solution?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 30, 2008, 05:42:35 PM
Quote from: Uladh on June 30, 2008, 05:32:31 PM

How much much do you think the leagues are devalued and what is the solution?

Well i think it's a good move by the county board to move the championship later in the year so teams will play out the league whilst still training flat out, as for the county players missing from the club teams i think they should let all players play for their clubs who are not getting any inter county action. If there is 35 in the panel at least 15 should be lining out for their clubs, this benifits the county, club and the player. I know you run the risk of injury but you will have a sharper player in you're panel...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on June 30, 2008, 05:45:20 PM

the big danger with the current set up is if armagh progess there could be 6/8 weeks between the end of the league and the start of the championship?

would top4 and bottom 4 play offs fill this void and allow clbs punished during the league for having county players a chance to preserve or enhance their status with a ful hand?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 30, 2008, 07:07:46 PM
i wouldn't be a fan of play-offs but i understand what your saying.

I would hope all county players are available for this weekend, it would help us a bit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on June 30, 2008, 08:07:56 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on June 30, 2008, 07:07:46 PM
i wouldn't be a fan of play-offs but i understand what your saying.

I would hope all county players are available for this weekend, it would help us a bit.

Aye but we would need Kerry's county players! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 30, 2008, 08:38:47 PM
Quotethe big danger with the current set up is if armagh progess there could be 6/8 weeks between the end of the league and the start of the championship?

We've 6 games left and are still 3 weeks away from our first round championship matches. I'd say, if we progress the leagues could be over by the time the championship starts.

Wonder whether clubs with county men will be expected to play championship matches 5 days after the Ulster final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on June 30, 2008, 10:39:15 PM
Will that armagh team change for the ulster final.I think they played well yesterday in the first 20 min took the foot off the gas and give away some silly frees.down only scored 2 from play all the rest were from frees so i think armagh would need to watch that for the next day.ciaran mc keever is a great man marker took Benny out off the game and down hand no plan B
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rubberneck on June 30, 2008, 10:56:50 PM
Armagh need to look at the mid field for the next game were dominant for the 1st 20 and then never won in the middle of the park after, this is not good enough to take the County to the All Ireland, why did McDonald take Donaghy off he was making a hell of alot of plays in the 1st half, thought this was a bad move would have take O'Rourke off well before his sending off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 01, 2008, 12:02:14 AM
Quote from: Rubberneck on June 30, 2008, 10:56:50 PM
Armagh need to look at the mid field for the next game were dominant for the 1st 20 and then never won in the middle of the park after, this is not good enough to take the County to the All Ireland, why did McDonald take Donaghy off he was making a hell of alot of plays in the 1st half, thought this was a bad move would have take O'Rourke off well before his sending off

donaghy was replaced by aaron kernan simply to calm things down and i believe he was on a card also. with a man less it made sense to get kernan on with a bit more experience. though donaghy did have an excellent game. apparently o'rourke was for coming off but they left it a few more mins and then it was too late. midfield was poor, down won an aswful lot of breaks.

wasnt overly impressed with p mckeever, i think mallon could be in there for the final. vernon looked a bit shaky but worked ard, if he had taken a point in the first half instead of going for goal it might have helped him settle a bit more. c mckeever was brilliant. you can say what you like about him but the man is an all star!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: High Catch on July 01, 2008, 08:49:48 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 6 JULY 2008


Wednesday 2 July

ACL – Division Four (8.00)
Mullaghbrack v Dorsey Emmett's (Joe Murtagh)


Friday 4 July

ACL – Division One (8.00)
St Patrick's v Crossmaglen (Eamon Nugent)
Harps v Mullaghbawn (Jim Slevin)
Culloville v Pearse Og (Kevin McNeice)
Dromintee v Clan na Gael (Kevin Murtagh)
Killeavey v Maghery (Tony O'Hare)

ACL – Division Two (8.00)
Granemore v Sarsfields (Jim Burns)
Keady v Tir na nÓg (Off)
Carrickcruppen v Silverbridge (Off)
An Port Mor v Ballymacnab (Henry McCloy)
St Michael's v Whitecross (Paul Boylan)

ACL – Division Three (8.00(
Crossmaglen II v St Paul's (Damian McConville)
St Peter's v Belleek (Jimmy McKee)
Madden v Ballyhegan (Off)
Grange v Clonmore (Stephen McKinley)
Annaghmore v Collegeland (Oliver Hearty)

ACL – Division Four (8.00)
Phelim Brady's v O'Hanlon's (Ronan Quigley)
Shane O'Neill's v Middletown (Off)
Corrinshego v Forkhill (Dessie McDonnell)
Mullaghbrack v Eire Og (Gary Smith)
Clady v Dorsey Emmett's (Paul Rath)


Sunday 6 July

Under-21 Football Final (7.30)
Carrickcruppen v Madden (Kevin McNeice) at Abbey Park, Armagh

ACL – Division Two (2.00)
Wolfe Tone v Clann Eireann (Sean McClatchey)
An Port Mor v Granemore (Gary Smith)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 01, 2008, 09:13:41 AM
Best wishes to Kernan jNr who I hear took a bad knock against Dromintee last night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 01, 2008, 11:01:12 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 01, 2008, 09:13:41 AM
Best wishes to Kernan jNr who I hear took a bad knock against Dromintee last night.

What level was that game in? (senior, U21 etc) and how bad of a knock did he get?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 01, 2008, 12:57:20 PM
Minor and think he had to go to hospital. I was not there and I am going on secondary reports, hopefully he is ok.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 01, 2008, 01:06:05 PM
QuoteMadden v Ballyhegan (Off)

Typical... county men available & we've no match!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 01, 2008, 02:09:19 PM
Clans v Dromintee is off also...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 01, 2008, 02:23:38 PM

how come?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on July 01, 2008, 03:03:56 PM
Do dromintee actualy play games or are they all refixed??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 01, 2008, 03:19:11 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on July 01, 2008, 03:03:56 PM
Do dromintee actually play games or are they all refixed??

Nothing to do with Dromintee this time lads. Clans have their annual golf classic on Friday. The game was originally fixed for Sunday and that was fine but when switched to Friday night it caused problems and so Dromintee agreed to play it at a later date...(So blame the clans this time)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rattle-the-net on July 01, 2008, 03:24:44 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 01, 2008, 01:06:05 PM
QuoteMadden v Ballyhegan (Off)

Typical... county men available & we've no match!!

well obviously madden are not goin to have a game when they have the u21 cship final that night...nothing to do with them, match was set for the saturday night but had to be changed in case of a draw between down and armagh....even at that i think the match wouldnt have went ahead as most of the madden team would be playin the saturday nite??

anyone any predictions for the u21 final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 01, 2008, 03:38:43 PM
I've no complaints with Madden. I wish them well in the U21s!

Just bad timing for us, I think Madden are the strongest team in the league... would have been nice to have the 3 lads playing!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on July 01, 2008, 03:45:46 PM
Im hoping madden win every neutral always likes seeing the underdog win but i can't see this happen, on paper cruppin should win by ten plus but you never know in a final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 02, 2008, 03:30:05 PM
The Cross minor injured against Dromintee was Aaron Kieran ( pronounced Kierans )
He was released from hospital on Tuesday afternoon and is doing fine
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 02, 2008, 03:32:51 PM
Glad to hear. Shows how unreliable second hand information is. I was told Ross Kernan by someone at the match.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on July 02, 2008, 11:39:33 PM
Who won the South Armagh B Championship Final tonight?
Crossmaglen and St Patricks were due to play at Dorsey.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rubberneck on July 03, 2008, 12:12:17 AM
The South B Championship was won by St.Pats tonight i was at it, cracking game some very hard hits throughout ended with St.Pats winning by 5 or 6 points.
Also heard at the game that the U16 Championship Final Crossmaglen v Silverbridge has now changed venue and is in Newtownhamilton at 7.15.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on July 03, 2008, 12:53:42 AM
Thanks Rubber.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on July 03, 2008, 08:38:01 AM
great win for st pats last nite in south armagh b championship final, final score 1-9 to 8, great goal scored by young robbie tasker. the ref let a lot go which made for a good hard hittin game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 03, 2008, 10:41:23 AM
He sure did !!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 03, 2008, 10:46:11 AM
Ah well we will have to settle for the senior now. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 03, 2008, 11:04:32 AM
Jesus being a bit bitter there Crossifre.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on July 03, 2008, 03:30:16 PM
Can the county players play this weekend or is to close to the final??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 03, 2008, 03:33:28 PM
I think they are allowed - 13 day rule applies.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 03, 2008, 03:36:27 PM
Apparently only the fringe players are allowed to play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on July 03, 2008, 03:43:58 PM
13day rule doesn't always happen. id agree with crossfire only the subs will be allowed to play, but hopefully not!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 03, 2008, 03:44:31 PM
Oh right. I had heard they were allowed to play but I guess not. The fringe players should always be allowed to play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on July 03, 2008, 03:48:11 PM

I heard that the clans game was definitely still on tomorrow night? clans couldn't find an alternative date to play it so it will go ahead?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on July 03, 2008, 05:29:00 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 03, 2008, 03:44:31 PM
Oh right. I had heard they were allowed to play but I guess not. The fringe players should always be allowed to play.

Correct and right
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 03, 2008, 07:54:47 PM
QuoteThe South B Championship was won by St.Pats tonight i was at it, cracking game some very hard hits throughout ended with St.Pats winning by 5 or 6 points.
Also heard at the game that the U16 Championship Final Crossmaglen v Silverbridge has now changed venue and is in Newtownhamilton at 7.15.

Superb result and a great second half display. Cross probably kicked themselves out of it in the first half. They were well on top but hit a lot of wides and were only a point up at half time. Brilliant second half from Cullyhanna and Robbie Tasker's was pure quality. That was  the crucial score as it put Cullyhanna 4 up with 10 minutes remaining. That was only the second B game I've seen this year but they seem stronger on paper than last year's side so maybe they can go one better and win the county final. Likely to lose a couple of players who will be involved with the seniors in the intermediate championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rubberneck on July 04, 2008, 12:00:07 AM
Just heard U16 Championship tonight was won well by Crossmaglen against Silverbridge and  the U16 Shield was won by St.Patricks against Killeavey apparently this one was the best of the 2 games on tonight very little in it right to the end.

Sad news that Mickey Cole referee from An Riocht passed away on the field of play tonight, deepest sympathy to his family and friends.

New Fixture's for Minor Football League  ( just into clubs yesterday)
Div 2
Crossmaglen and Dromintee are playing on the 7/7/2008 and the loser will join this league

Rd 1    7/7/2008
Cross/Dtee v Cullaville (this will not be plated on this date)
Corrinshigo v St.Bridgets
Forkhill v S.O'Neills
Silverbridge v  Mullabawn 

Rd 2   14/7/2008
Silverbridge v Cross/Dtee
Cullaville v Corrinshigo
St.Bridgets v Forkhill
S.O'Neills v Mullabawn

Rd 3  21/7/2008
Forkhill v Cullaville
Corrinshigo v Cross/Dtee
Mullabawn v St.Bridgets
S.O'Neills v Silverbridge

Rd 4   28/7/2008
Cullaville v Mullabawn
Forkhill v Cross/Dtee
Silverbridge v Corrinshigo
St.Bridgets v S.O'Neills

Rd 5   4/8/2008
S.O'Neills v Cullaville
Mullabawn v Cross/Dtee
Forkhill v Corrinshigo
St.Bridgets v Silverbridge

Rd6   11/8/2008
Cullaville v St.Bridgets
Cross/Dtee v S.O'Neills
Corrinshigo v Mullabawn
Silverbridge v Forkhill

Rd 7   14/8/2008
Silverbridge v Cullaville
St.Bridgets v Cross/Dtee
S.O'Neills v Corrinshigo
Mullabawn v Forkhill

Top 4 Semi-final  18/8/2008
Final                     25/8/2008
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 04, 2008, 08:22:37 AM
Quote from: The GAA on July 03, 2008, 03:48:11 PM

I heard that the clans game was definitely still on tomorrow night? clans couldn't find an alternative date to play it so it will go ahead?

Dunno where you get you're sources but you may need to go back and check them as the game is def off, Fact. Unless you have another team to play this weekend you will have no game...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on July 04, 2008, 10:52:49 PM
Any results tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on July 04, 2008, 11:33:00 PM
Wasn at it but heard that harps beat mullaghbawn by two points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 04, 2008, 11:33:54 PM
Clans finished on four under i think. In the golf that was. No gaelic this week for us lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 05, 2008, 12:07:28 AM
Cross beat St Pat's by 7 points. 2-12 to 0-11 or soemthing around that. Game was over within 10 minutes, Cross went 1-6 to 0-1 and there was no coming back from that. They kicked 2-10 in the first half, some of them absolutely superb scores. We were destroyed all over the pitch in the first 15 minutes and by the time we got into it, the game was over as a contest.

Good performance in the second half from Cullyhanna. Showed a bit of guts to get back into the game and were on top for most of the half although admittedly Rangers had probably taken their foot off the pedal. Eamon McArdle, Mal Mackin and Eugene Casey were probably our three best players.

Disappointing night but Cross have the capability to do that to most teams. Hard to see anybody stopping them this year. Without the county players they are way ahead and the gap only widens when their county men come back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 05, 2008, 12:36:03 AM
Ogs won by 5 points. I didnt get to Harps game tonight, but i heard that charlie vernon & holmes  played well. it was 2 points badly needed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 05, 2008, 11:34:11 AM
Good win for Harps, think it ended up 2-7 to 0-11.  The return of our county players (and joe quigley1-1) made a big difference, Philly Mckinney lorded it at MF. Kevin Kelly got 1-3.   Tight game,  you felt we should have won by a lot more but made awful hard work of it.  Mullaghabawn have to be one of the most cynical teams in the league.

Hearty tried his best for Mullaghbawn as ref, and they had 2 cheating bastard umpires, one of whom was directly responsible for 3 of Mullaghbawn's points!!!!!   >:( >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 05, 2008, 11:38:30 AM

One of them was no doubt Brian McKinley. I've seen a lot of unscrupulous umpires in my time, especially when they think an argument might swing a point or wide in their favour, but Mullaghbawn take the biscuit, If there was anyonw with any regard at all for the image of their club they'd have stopped McKinley umpiring years ago.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on July 05, 2008, 11:43:45 AM
Good win for harps, county players were excellent is mark quinn still on the county panel??
next up at abbey culloville.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on July 05, 2008, 01:04:40 PM
Quote from: Uladh on July 05, 2008, 11:38:30 AM

One of them was no doubt Brian McKinley. I've seen a lot of unscrupulous umpires in my time, especially when they think an argument might swing a point or wide in their favour, but Mullaghbawn take the biscuit, If there was anyonw with any regard at all for the image of their club they'd have stopped McKinley umpiring years ago.

ur rite bout him uladh.is as big cheat as thy cme.vry bad 4 the image of the club
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on July 05, 2008, 01:37:18 PM
st pats played cross last night in cullyhanna it was a game off 2 halfs cross blitzed st pats in the first 15 min and thats what won the game.cullyhanna came back into it in the 2nd half to take it back to 6 points cross only scored 2 in the 2nd half.the only thing i was asking my self leaving the ground was why on earth was Mal mackin dropped from the county he ruled mid field hands down MC Kenna was no were near him.another player that caught my eye was Eugene Casey scored 7 points 3 from play very strong on the ball.both teams were under power cross still the team to beat in armagh but this cullyhanna side if they get all there players back will give cross a run for there money more so than any other team in armagh cause they stand up for one another and have guts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on July 05, 2008, 01:39:12 PM
Quote from: back off the net on July 05, 2008, 01:37:18 PM
st pats played cross last night in cullyhanna it was a game off 2 halfs cross blitzed st pats in the first 15 min and thats what won the game.cullyhanna came back into it in the 2nd half to take it back to 6 points cross only scored 2 in the 2nd half.the only thing i was asking my self leaving the ground was why on earth was Mal mackin dropped from the county he ruled mid field hands down MC Kenna was no were near him.another player that caught my eye was Eugene Casey scored 7 points 3 from play very strong on the ball.both teams were under power cross still the team to beat in armagh but this cullyhanna side if they get all there players back will give cross a run for there money more so than any other team in armagh cause they stand up for one another and have guts

:-X
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on July 05, 2008, 04:04:24 PM
Need to win the intermediate first though id imagine!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 05, 2008, 05:51:31 PM
Don't think trophies are handed out for just guts. It would be harsh on cross to come to a conclusion that they only won 13 titles in a row because they only have guts. I guess propaganda is on the up in cullyhanna. They could be likened to hitlers aryan race  :) A one of breed. the way back of the net is talking
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 05, 2008, 06:34:50 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on July 05, 2008, 04:04:24 PM
Need to win the intermediate first though id imagine!
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 05, 2008, 08:00:31 PM
back of the net ;mal mackin  was on county panel for approx 4 years can you recall him doing anything noteworthy. I CAN'T.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 05, 2008, 08:22:48 PM
any results from last nights div 2 games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on July 05, 2008, 10:33:55 PM
Malachy Mackin in 2005 when Armagh played Kerry in Croke Park, he man marked Mark O'Shea and prevented him from stamping his mark on the game.  The Armagh management substituted him which led to Mark O'Shea running riot for the remainder of the game!  He was never given a settled position.  :-X
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 05, 2008, 11:09:30 PM
he has one now ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on July 05, 2008, 11:48:47 PM
No Mark has not been on the panel since the end of the league

Quote from: Uladh on July 05, 2008, 11:38:30 AM

One of them was no doubt Brian McKinley. I've seen a lot of unscrupulous umpires in my time, especially when they think an argument might swing a point or wide in their favour, but Mullaghbawn take the biscuit, If there was anyonw with any regard at all for the image of their club they'd have stopped McKinley umpiring years ago.

Really Uladh, tell me one club umpire who would stand there and be honest if his club were to gain something.....no matter what club game you go to you see incidentences of this......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on July 06, 2008, 10:32:13 AM
Many here for the under21 final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rattle-the-net on July 06, 2008, 11:52:29 AM
No disrespect to madden but they have had an easy path to the final which aint their fault, they can only play who is in front of them....however they have not being tested by a strong enough side leading up to the final and i think cruppen will just blow them away...the match againest cross was just unreal!!! so predict a cruppen win, they have to much fire power but however much they win by is down to how they play!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on July 06, 2008, 02:02:52 PM
I would like to see madden hammer cruppen, Cruppen lads on here are getting very big of themselves and for what - reaching an U21 Final
!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on July 06, 2008, 03:44:35 PM
I hear there was an incident in a division 3 game, can anybody clarify that??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 06, 2008, 03:55:11 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on July 06, 2008, 03:44:35 PM
I hear there was an incident in a division 3 game, can anybody clarify that??

Maybe if you tell us what you heard?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on July 06, 2008, 04:02:02 PM
I heard the lissumon game was abandoned due to a player pushing the referre after getting sent off, but im not sure if its fact.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 06, 2008, 04:33:43 PM
never heard  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on July 06, 2008, 04:53:55 PM
good luck tonight to madden in the under 21s final!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on July 06, 2008, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on July 06, 2008, 04:02:02 PM
I heard the lissumon game was abandoned due to a player pushing the referee after getting sent off, but I'm not sure if its fact.


If this did happen I would not be surprised looking at the referee that was down for this, how this excuse of a referee is allowed to take charge of games is beyond me - same scenario happened in an underage Div 2 game earlier this year which resulted him reporting team officials and them receiving a total of 54 weeks - and thats just 2 officials
Same person sent of more people last year than every other South Board referee in total. A stat that speaks for itself alone. Be interested to hear more about this from someone at game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 06, 2008, 06:26:50 PM
Who was ref? TBH if  he was pushed it is hard to justify it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on July 06, 2008, 06:33:36 PM
Agree Corn but its bit of a conscience that the majority of bother with referees centres around this referee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 06, 2008, 06:35:06 PM
Ah yeah as you say, eh probably had a reason for pushing if true, who was the ref Holyland?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 06, 2008, 07:35:22 PM

couldn't have been quigley again could it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on July 06, 2008, 08:02:22 PM
Nope dont think so, think how bad Quigley is and multiply by ten
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 06, 2008, 08:03:26 PM
Mc Kinley??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 06, 2008, 08:08:00 PM
Cruppen getting beat 6-3 at half time in under 21's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 06, 2008, 08:22:59 PM
Quote from: holylandsniper on July 06, 2008, 08:02:22 PM
Nope dont think so, think how bad Quigley is and multiply by ten

Is there some reason you can't tell us or are you just enjoying the attention?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on July 06, 2008, 09:12:29 PM
No just don't want to mention name incase i'm wrong
Full back though could have hit nail on head...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 06, 2008, 09:54:26 PM
U21 finished a draw, both teams a bit off form. Too very even teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 06, 2008, 11:05:01 PM
took in the u-21 final tonight. Cruppen the better footballing side, but madden had more heart. Draw was probably the correct result in front of large crowd. Thought with 5 mins left madden (2 up) would hang on, but cruppen dug deep and could have stole it at the end.

Thought the pitch looked in excellent condition after the rain all day. pity about the wind..

...........
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 06, 2008, 11:11:13 PM
Quote from: holylandsniper on July 06, 2008, 08:02:22 PM
Nope dont think so, think how bad Quigley is and multiply by ten

That only leaves hearty
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rubberneck on July 07, 2008, 12:21:15 AM
Under 21's tonight was a good game thought that Cruppin would have totally played Madden off the parc, Madden were luck to hold on till the end and get a draw, might not be that lucky next meeting against Cruppin, Any date for this yet ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: chb on July 07, 2008, 08:24:21 AM
mckinley was down for the lissummon match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 07, 2008, 09:03:32 AM
Quote from: holylandsniper on July 06, 2008, 09:12:29 PM
No just don't want to mention name incase i'm wrong
Full back though could have hit nail on head...

Tullysaran were leading Lissumon 6-2 with about 7 or 8 minutes left to go in the first half wen two players went down in a tackle, no body at fault just a fair hard tackle the ref came over and red carded the tullysaran player, the Lissumon player even said he didnt do anythin (fair play to him).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 07, 2008, 09:12:44 AM
... so he pushed the ref & the game was abandoned?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on July 07, 2008, 09:28:19 AM
can anyone tell me why charlie vernon was allowed to play for the harps and ronan clarke and andy mallon were not allowed to play for the ogs? were there any other armagh starters playing for their clubs? Anyone have the updated league tables?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 07, 2008, 11:05:05 AM
ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 13 11 2 0 24
Clan na Gael 13 6 3 4 15
Culloville 13 7 1 5 15
Pearse Og 12 6 2 4 14
St Patrick's 13 7 0 6 14
Mullaghbawn 14 5 1 8 11
Harps 13 4 2 7 10
Killeavey 13 5 0 8 10
Dromintee 11 4 1 6 9
Maghery 13 2 2 9 6

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 14 10 1 3 21
St Michael's 14 9 1 4 19
Carrickcruppen 13 8 1 4 17
Clann Eireann 14 8 1 5 17
Tir na nÓg 13 8 0 5 16
Granemore 13 7 0 6 14
Wolfe Tone 14 6 0 8 12
Silverbridge 12 5 1 6 11
Ballymacnab 13 5 1 7 11
Whitecross 14 4 0 10 8
An Port Mor 14 3 1 10 7
Keady 10 2 1 7 5

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
St Paul's 13 10 1 2 21
Collegeland 14 10 1 3 21
Madden 12 9 2 1 20
Annaghmore 14 8 0 6 16
Belleek 12 7 1 4 15
Ballyhegan 12 7 0 5 14
St Peter's 12 5 0 7 10
Clonmore 14 4 3 7 11
Lissummon 13 3 3 7 9
Tullysaran 13 3 2 8 8
Grange 13 2 1 10 5
Crossmaglen II 12 1 2 9 4


ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 12 11 1 0 23
Eire Og 13 9 1 3 19
Middletown 10 6 3 1 15
Forkhill 13 7 1 5 15
Clady 10 5 2 3 12
Derrynoose 10 6 0 4 12
O'Hanlon's 12 6 0 6 12
Corrinshego 11 3 1 7 7
Dorsey Emmett's 11 3 0 8 6
Mullaghbrack 12 2 1 9 5
Phelim Brady's 12 0 0 12 0

Just looking at the relegation battle for Div 1 and it's gonna be tight, i think we can all agree that Maghery will go down as that defeat to Killeavey was the nail in the coffen. As for the rest of them it's gonna be tight, the Harps have a neck of nipping points at vital times and Killeavey seem to playing well at the minute so i'm goona go for Dromintee because without their county men they seem to be struggling (any team would loosing the core of you're team to inter county football) In saying that Mullaghbawn are on a bad run too and cannot be ruled out, just glad we had a good run recently and shot us up the table as it's very uncomfortable down there as we know from previous years
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 07, 2008, 11:10:35 AM
Dead right Illdecide, six points seperate eight teams. Dromintee's saving grace is that they have games in hand. Of Course games in hands does not equal points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: harlechman on July 07, 2008, 11:24:48 AM
The U21 replay is down for 3 weeks time.

Thought it was a good game between two evenly matched teams. The wet ball spoiled it a bit though, both teams struggled to hold onto the ball in the tackle. Certainly wouldnt agree with posters saying Madden were lucky to draw, they had a great chance near the end but a Cruppen defender got a great block in. Their goal was very lucky although they did have 2 other goal chances. I thought the referee was very fussy, some soft frees given to both sides and then some very debatable tackles were let go in the last 10 minutes. The draw was probably a fair enough result, looking forward to the replay.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 07, 2008, 11:25:51 AM
I know it is fairly academic, but if Cross take 3 points from the last 10 available they win the League.  Looking at game reports they have rarely played with anything close to a full team.  This is a very poor indictment of the rest of the teams and if anything the gap seems to be getting bigger rather than closer.  With the Macs no longer burdened with county they seem to be playing better than ever(well John anyway according to reports), and the squad seems to get stronger every year.

Is there any realistic challenger over the next few years or will it continue to be a one horse race?  The year we won the first AI Malachy McGeeney said he could see us dominating for 10 years.  None of us believed him.  It is scary how right he was.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 07, 2008, 11:44:39 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 07, 2008, 11:25:51 AM
I know it is fairly academic, but if Cross take 3 points from the last 10 available they win the League.  Looking at game reports they have rarely played with anything close to a full team.  This is a very poor indictment of the rest of the teams and if anything the gap seems to be getting bigger rather than closer.  With the Macs no longer burdened with county they seem to be playing better than ever(well John anyway according to reports), and the squad seems to get stronger every year.

Is there any realistic challenger over the next few years or will it continue to be a one horse race?  The year we won the first AI Malachy McGeeney said he could see us dominating for 10 years.  None of us believed him.  It is scary how right he was.

BC1 the gap looks bad but i don't see it getting bigger, the biggest difference is Cross can deal without their county men but the rest cannot as they do not have the panel Cross have. Cross get stronger by 30% when their county men come in but the rest would improve much more than that (still behind Cross though) I better not be too nice to you as i got accuse of kissing you're ass the last time you big ogger ;)

The Cross are coming to the end of their run and will be beat in the championship soon (hopefully this year) they will still dominate the Armagh championship but not every year like they have done...Hope i'm not typing this same shit next year and the year after but like i've said before when JD, MAc's,  McConville and Bellew quit or start to slip Cross will be beat as these men are the same men who pull it out of the fire for Cross every time every year when needed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 07, 2008, 12:11:31 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 07, 2008, 11:44:39 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 07, 2008, 11:25:51 AM
I know it is fairly academic, but if Cross take 3 points from the last 10 available they win the League.  Looking at game reports they have rarely played with anything close to a full team.  This is a very poor indictment of the rest of the teams and if anything the gap seems to be getting bigger rather than closer.  With the Macs no longer burdened with county they seem to be playing better than ever(well John anyway according to reports), and the squad seems to get stronger every year.

Is there any realistic challenger over the next few years or will it continue to be a one horse race?  The year we won the first AI Malachy McGeeney said he could see us dominating for 10 years.  None of us believed him.  It is scary how right he was.

BC1 the gap looks bad but i don't see it getting bigger, the biggest difference is Cross can deal without their county men but the rest cannot as they do not have the panel Cross have. Cross get stronger by 30% when their county men come in but the rest would improve much more than that (still behind Cross though) I better not be too nice to you as i got accuse of kissing you're ass the last time you big ogger ;)

The Cross are coming to the end of their run and will be beat in the championship soon (hopefully this year) they will still dominate the Armagh championship but not every year like they have done...Hope i'm not typing this same shit next year and the year after but like i've said before when JD, MAc's,  McConville and Bellew quit or start to slip Cross will be beat as these men are the same men who pull it out of the fire for Cross every time every year when needed

The converse to that though is Cross are not the only club where key players will retire.  Look at yourselves, Barry and Diarmuid are older than any of those Cross players you mention bar JD and I think if Clans lost those two it would hamper them more than say JD and Oisin retiring.  The Macs are the same age as Aidan O'Rourke, Cross could suffer the retirement of John better than Dromintee could by losing Aidan.  The only team who would realistically challenge would be the Ogs and I don't know if they have it.  The younger players that are coming on to the Cross team, IMHO, are better than the squad players of any other club and with 2-3 minors coming up every year it will continue. 

The reason I am highlighting this is we had a discussion last night about losing young players to other sports.  In towns like Lurgan and Armagh I fear it will only get harder to attract young players and this will obviously have a major kick on to the overall standard of the game in the county.  I know people say these things are cyclical, but I actually think in this case there may be a bigger problem in a few years time and maybe the County board should look at really developing the youth now outside of the SA region, as it will always be strong there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 07, 2008, 12:40:43 PM
Well i can't speak for other clubs but i know when these 2 men retire from the Clans we will not be able to replace them with guys of that calibre therefore we will be weaker for it there is no doubt about that. where we'll be after that only time will tell, if we can survive in the top division for a few years i think we'll come good as we have some good young fellas but they are way to young (14-16 year olds) and like you say if we even get them (the town fever could get them first)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on July 07, 2008, 01:00:44 PM

I heard over the weekend that Dromintee will be without all of the o'rourkes for good. not sure how reliable the fella who told me is but he's a dromintee man
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 07, 2008, 02:01:09 PM
Quote from: The GAA on July 07, 2008, 01:00:44 PM

I heard over the weekend that Dromintee will be without all of the o'rourkes for good. not sure how reliable the fella who told me is but he's a dromintee man

Why is this? is there a fall out?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on July 07, 2008, 02:50:46 PM
Lads,

Spotted this on the back of a bus yesterday in London

Could be an omen lol!!!! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 07, 2008, 05:30:44 PM
very good umgolaar i liked that one and lets hope it is an omen.

I don't know how many rumours i have heard on this board this season about the o' rourkes and Dromintee. FFS lads if i was to put everything on this board that i heard on the rumour mill i would be typing forever. We need to use our common sense when we are posting these things.

BC i am glad that you can acknowledge the difference in the North and mid of the county because there are some that see no difference at all. I am am not refering to the football abilities, i am refering to the distractions. You are quite correct in saying that this gap is only going to get wider because there are a lot more distraction going on in areas such as lurgan and Armagh city. Some people deny this is happening but if you ask me it is clear to be seen and the county board should do something about it before it is too late. The GAA week last week in lurgan was a great success and there should be more of it, we should be promoting our game at every opportunity.

On the cross issue, You are pointing out that cross will win the league at a canter, which is correct. Then you say that they will only get stronger with the county players. However sometimes this can have an adverse effect. When players who have playeds all year are suddenly dropped to bring in the county guys, this can leave a little bad feeling about and create an all together stale atmosphere. You also haven't taken into account the fact that championship football is a different ball game altogether. Think back to the first cross all Ireland, the 1 poiny win over the sarsfields. Results like this this can never be explained and one of these days the cross will be caught by one of these. I think this year could be the year because the cross are coasting along at the moment but you know aswell as i do it only takes the slightest of issues to upset the apple cart.IMO opinion the county lads will come back and all won't settle the way it should. The wee things that have came of for cross over the years won't this year and the key decision may not g their way. so i say i predict a shock in this years championship  ;) ;) I guess only time will tell us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mhacadoir on July 07, 2008, 05:38:46 PM
was in lurgan last weekend when the gaelic week seemd to be in full flow, it seemed a great idea there was a lot of colour around the town. i think it should be done in armagh city too for the mid armagh team, maybe to co-incide with the west armagh festival thing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on July 07, 2008, 07:08:23 PM
I was at the under 21 final last night, good game and fair result im guessn that cruppen will win the replay you always new they were gona get the equaliser. Marty ferris is a county player?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 07, 2008, 08:38:49 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 07, 2008, 05:30:44 PM
On the cross issue, You are pointing out that cross will win the league at a canter, which is correct. Then you say that they will only get stronger with the county players. However sometimes this can have an adverse effect. When players who have playeds all year are suddenly dropped to bring in the county guys, this can leave a little bad feeling about and create an all together stale atmosphere. You also haven't taken into account the fact that championship football is a different ball game altogether. Think back to the first cross all Ireland, the 1 poiny win over the sarsfields. Results like this this can never be explained and one of these days the cross will be caught by one of these. I think this year could be the year because the cross are coasting along at the moment but you know aswell as i do it only takes the slightest of issues to upset the apple cart.IMO opinion the county lads will come back and all won't settle the way it should. The wee things that have came of for cross over the years won't this year and the key decision may not g their way. so i say i predict a shock in this years championship  ;) ;) I guess only time will tell us.

There will be a time they get beatena dnit could well be this year, but not for the reasons you state.  Unless things have changed dramtically since I left there was never any issue about the count boys coming back.  It was always a fact of life for Cross players and it was accepted that they would come back into the team.  The only issue that ever arose was the alck of time together meant that they did not necessarily gel in playing terms due to lack of practice, but in fairness this generally came together eventually.  That is the area that i would see as being the main potential problem area for Cross because when they are put up man for man against any team, there is only one winner.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on July 08, 2008, 12:11:27 AM
Can't seem to find the Athletc Grounds thread, so putting these up here - taken at tea time this evening.

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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 08, 2008, 08:44:59 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 13 JULY 2008


Wednesday 9 July

ACL – Division One (8.00)
Crossmaglen v Dromintee (Barney Henry)

ACL – Division Three (8.00)
St Paul's v Tullysaran (Kevin McNeice)
St Peter's v Belleek (Stephen Murray)


Friday 11 July

ACL – Division One (8.00)
Killeavey v Pearse Og (Oliver Hearty)

ACL – Division Two (8.00)
Carrickcruppen v Silverbridge (Dessie McDonnell)
An Port Mor v Ballymacnab (Henry McCloy)

ACL – Division Three (8.00)
Collegeland v St Peter's (Kevin Murtagh)


Sunday 13 July

ACL – Division One (2.00)
Mullaghbawn v St Patrick's (Rory Robinson)
Harps v Culloville (Malachy McNicholl)
Maghery v Clan na Gael (Off)

ACL – Division Two (2.00)
Tir na nÓg v Carrickcruppen (Seamus O'Neill)
Sarsfields v St Michael's (Sean McClatchey)
Silverbridge v Wolfe Tone (Off)
Whitecross v Keady (Off)
Ballymacnab v Granemore (Vincent O'Neill)

ACL – Division Three (2.00)
Belleek v Madden (Tony O'Hare)
Clonmore v Annaghmore (Off)
Ballyhegan v Crossmaglen II (Eamon Nugent)
Lissummon v Grange (Jim Slevin)

ACL – Division Four (2.00)
Dorsey Emmett's v Derrynoose (Dessie McDonnell)
Eire Og v Clady (Off)
Forkhill v Mullaghbrack (Mickey Leonard)
Middletown v Corrinshego (Jimmy McKee)
O'Hanlon's v Shane O'Neill's (Henry McCloy)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 08, 2008, 08:45:15 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on July 07, 2008, 07:08:23 PM
I was at the under 21 final last night, good game and fair result im guessn that cruppen will win the replay you always new they were gona get the equaliser. Marty ferris is a county player?

Marty Ferris is Shite and should be no where near that county squad, it was like that other Donkey Paul Keenan last season, absolute shite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on July 08, 2008, 09:17:43 AM
marty ferris was excellent for cruppen in the u21 game, he reads the game very well and anyone who was at the  senior championship semi final last year against cross or the u21 semi final against cross will know that he has every right to be on the senior county panel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on July 08, 2008, 09:18:23 AM
Onion bag,

You werent long PILING on the abuse there  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 08, 2008, 09:26:57 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on July 08, 2008, 09:18:23 AM
Onion bag,

You werent long PILING on the abuse there  ;)

At the end of the day Umgola i am entitled to my opinion, Wasnt at the U21 game on sunday night but was talking to people who was and they are neutral people NAKA, and they reckon that he never stood out at all and you wouldnt have noticed him, i have seen him on previous occasions and and dont rate him at all,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 08, 2008, 09:29:34 AM
Yea, onion bag your entitled to your opinion but theres still no need to SPREAD stuff like that on the board!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 08, 2008, 09:34:06 AM
Spread stuff like what?
All i said was that i didnt think that a guy should be on the county panel, whats the big deal? Jasus everyones a bit touchy this morning,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 08, 2008, 09:49:37 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on July 08, 2008, 09:34:06 AM
Spread stuff like what?
All i said was that i didnt think that a guy should be on the county panel, whats the big deal? Jasus everyones a bit touchy this morning,

No you didn't...
QuoteMarty Ferris is Shite

Charming!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 08, 2008, 09:59:35 AM
OK Lads, Shite was a bit strong  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 08, 2008, 10:53:05 AM

Ferris is symptomatic of a growing problem within the county, in that we are producing half backs who are only effective in one direction. the job of a half back is to defend and then augment the attack if its possible. most teams have wing backs who are bombing forward with no awareness of the danger they leave behind them and increasingly, can't mark or tackle even when they are in position. Ciaran McKeever type wing backs are what we need to be producing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 08, 2008, 11:12:52 AM
Uladh,

Honest opinion, do you think he is any good or worthy of his place on the squad, or am i the only person on this board of this opinion
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 08, 2008, 11:53:24 AM

Don't really know OB. he didn't get any game time in the national league so we didn't see him in that company. that said, he looked distinctly average in the McKenna cup. To assess the merit of a borderline lad like him being on the panel you'd have to know about his attitude, how he trains, etc. and there'd have to be better out there to exclude him.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bud on July 08, 2008, 12:23:17 PM
As a neutral at the game i thought ferris done rightly, it was him who made a magnificent block to deny madden a winning point in the dying seconds.  I also attended the Cross semi final and he was outstanding.

How many times do we go to club matches and fail to see county players performing to a high standard, its not possible for them to be lethal all the time.  You also have to remember that it has been over a month since any county player last played a competitive game unless they featured against cavan or down

OB i think your statement was a disgrace and was uncalled for.  From your comment it seems that you have some kind of ill feeling towards Carrickcruppen as you brought in another name who hadn't previously been mentioned.

Having made the statement and then to follow it up by saying you weren't even at the game shows the type of Gael you probably are, one in which sits on his hole and then comes on forums to slag players off who are giving there all for club and county.

As uladh has said, there'd have to be a lot better out there to exclude him from the panel!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 08, 2008, 12:56:19 PM
Lads I heard from a very reliable source that Malcolm Mc Keown was seen training in the Clans 'Karate' gym three time this month! If this is true I will sever all my ties with the gaa as a result of this murdering bastard being allowed into a gaa ground!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 08, 2008, 01:07:05 PM

you better tell us who Malcolm Mc Keown is so
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on July 08, 2008, 01:57:10 PM
http://thisiscostablanca.adlibweb.com/content/view/182/102/

Brother of Clifford McKeown who murdered taxi driver Michael McGoldrick, another brother Trevor got life for murdering a young Catholic girl!!
GENTS OF THE HIGHEST!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on July 08, 2008, 02:19:01 PM
Quote from: bud on July 08, 2008, 12:23:17 PM
As a neutral at the game i thought ferris done rightly, it was him who made a magnificent block to deny madden a winning point in the dying seconds.  I also attended the Cross semi final and he was outstanding.

How many times do we go to club matches and fail to see county players performing to a high standard, its not possible for them to be lethal all the time.  You also have to remember that it has been over a month since any county player last played a competitive game unless they featured against cavan or downOB i think your statement was a disgrace and was uncalled for.  From your comment it seems that you have some kind of ill feeling towards Carrickcruppen as you brought in another name who hadn't previously been mentioned.

Having made the statement and then to follow it up by saying you weren't even at the game shows the type of Gael you probably are, one in which sits on his hole and then comes on forums to slag players off who are giving there all for club and county.

As uladh has said, there'd have to be a lot better out there to exclude him from the panel!!!

Bud,

its an U21 match, i would expect a county senior player to stand well out from other players around him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 08, 2008, 02:45:04 PM
well clans ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 08, 2008, 02:47:53 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on July 08, 2008, 02:45:04 PM
well clans ?

He was mean't to be our surprise full forward for the championship but now thats ruined by that slabber IVEDECIDED...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 08, 2008, 02:54:14 PM
Quote from: bud on July 08, 2008, 12:23:17 PM
As a neutral at the game i thought ferris done rightly, it was him who made a magnificent block to deny madden a winning point in the dying seconds.  I also attended the Cross semi final and he was outstanding.

How many times do we go to club matches and fail to see county players performing to a high standard, its not possible for them to be lethal all the time.  You also have to remember that it has been over a month since any county player last played a competitive game unless they featured against cavan or down

OB i think your statement was a disgrace and was uncalled for.  From your comment it seems that you have some kind of ill feeling towards Carrickcruppen as you brought in another name who hadn't previously been mentioned.

Having made the statement and then to follow it up by saying you weren't even at the game shows the type of Gael you probably are, one in which sits on his hole and then comes on forums to slag players off who are giving there all for club and county.

As uladh has said, there'd have to be a lot better out there to exclude him from the panel!!!

Ok Bud, Keep your hair on, 1st i have no ill feeling towards cruppen at all, P Keenan just happens to be from the same club

2nd i think everyone here is taking this a bit personal,

Yes i did say that ferris was shite and i have taken that back and apologised for that in a previous post, but i have seen him play numerous occasions and i simply dont think he is worthy of a place on the squad and i thought the same of Paul Keenan and at the end of the day i am entitled to my opinion after all this is a discussion board. As umgola stated a player on a senior county squad should be head and shoulders above the rest time after time

And bud you are questioning the type of gael i am, I was actually at another match,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on July 08, 2008, 03:30:14 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 08, 2008, 12:56:19 PM
Lads I heard from a very reliable source that Malcolm Mc Keown was seen training in the Clans 'Karate' gym three time this month! If this is true I will sever all my ties with the gaa as a result of this murdering b**tard being allowed into a gaa ground!!

I don't think the Clans keep a record of who trains with John Fox and who doesn't.

So either report this to the clans or take it up with Fox himself - I'm sure he will either put you straight or sort this out.

When I trained there, there was a mix of different people every night and not all of them Catholics.

I am not defending McKeown, just defending the GAA and the Clans as they probably know nothing about who trains there and who doesnt.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 08, 2008, 03:33:53 PM
Quote from: Candyman on July 08, 2008, 01:57:10 PM
http://thisiscostablanca.adlibweb.com/content/view/182/102/

Brother of Clifford McKeown who murdered taxi driver Michael McGoldrick, another brother Trevor got life for murdering a young Catholic girl!!
GENTS OF THE HIGHEST!!!

Jasus hes not the sort of guy you would like going out with your sister
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 08, 2008, 04:23:35 PM
Don't forget this is the same hall that the clans wanted to buy from the county board yet they sold it to another party so first things first it's not the clans hall. 2nd as we don't own davitt park it is something you should bring up with the county board who actually own it... and 3rd what do you want us to do? pay someone to have a checkpoint at the entrance of Davitt Park and ask for ID of everyone who enters it?, the Karate club in the hall over the far side in the grounds of Davitt Park is open to the public and as ICEMAN says go and see John Fox who runs it and bring it up with him ::)

And watch the way you speak to him he could karate chop you in the nuts ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 08, 2008, 04:26:28 PM
Wax on Wax off Mr Miaghi  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on July 08, 2008, 04:37:57 PM
Would that be the water chest-nuts?

That Old Rascal Foxey wouldnt be a stranger to chop suey-ing U in the eyes either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 08, 2008, 05:05:48 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on July 08, 2008, 04:37:57 PM
Would that be the water chest-nuts?

That Old Rascal Foxey wouldnt be a stranger to chop suey-ing U in the eyes either.

you're dead right there. the mans an animal, he could make onions cry :'( :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on July 08, 2008, 05:11:46 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 08, 2008, 05:05:48 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on July 08, 2008, 04:37:57 PM
Would that be the water chest-nuts?

That Old Rascal Foxey wouldnt be a stranger to chop suey-ing U in the eyes either.

you're dead right there. the mans an animal, he could make onions cry :'( :'(

I heard he once broke a mans fist in 2 by headbutting it with his nose?

And this one time at band camp he played the trumpet while drinking a glass of water and with no hands.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rattle-the-net on July 08, 2008, 09:56:11 PM
Marty ferris is on the county panel for one reason....the management team say he is god enough to be!!!

He had not played a match in over a month and no player is going to be 100% match fit going into a big game!

We'll see the next day out if he he'll prove himself....have every faith!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on July 08, 2008, 10:28:24 PM
Quote from: rattle-the-net on July 08, 2008, 09:56:11 PM
Marty ferris is on the county panel for one reason....the management team say he is god enough to be!!!

He had not played a match in over a month and no player is going to be 100% match fit going into a big game!

We'll see the next day out if he he'll prove himself....have every faith!

Hows life in Melbourne Tommy??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 08, 2008, 10:31:53 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on July 08, 2008, 10:28:24 PM
Quote from: rattle-the-net on July 08, 2008, 09:56:11 PM
Marty ferris is on the county panel for one reason....the management team say he is god enough to be!!!

He had not played a match in over a month and no player is going to be 100% match fit going into a big game!

We'll see the next day out if he he'll prove himself....have every faith!

Hows life in Melbourne Tommy??

i doubt tommy would have the keyboard skills for the gaa board
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 09, 2008, 11:11:38 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on July 08, 2008, 08:44:59 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 13 JULY 2008

Wednesday 9 July

ACL – Division One (8.00)
Crossmaglen v Dromintee (Barney Henry)

Getting home late this afternoon and trying to get to the above game. Does corn, crossfire or anyone else know where this game will be played?

i assume some county players are available?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 09, 2008, 12:56:51 PM
I think you will find son that the clans do actually own the karate club aswell as the actual ground the club house sits on. But this is as far as it goes in terms of ownership. On the issue of this mc Geown guy, it is simply the GAA is a non political organisation so if this is reported to the club they will simply and correctly, state this policy. It is up to the lads in that gym, to have a set of balls and tell him to do one. This is nothing to do with religion but this guy is a proven drug dealer and gangster  and i am sure the parents of the children at the kempo gym wouldn't want him associasted with their children.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Broken_Cross on July 09, 2008, 10:50:58 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on July 08, 2008, 08:44:59 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 13 JULY 2008

Wednesday 9 July

ACL – Division Three (8.00)
St Paul's v Tullysaran (Kevin McNeice)


St Paul's 0-10   0-3 Tullysaran

Ref is a legend - awarded Tullysaran the first penalty because keeper saved ball with his foot!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 10, 2008, 12:04:31 AM
Quote from: Broken_Cross on July 09, 2008, 10:50:58 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on July 08, 2008, 08:44:59 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 13 JULY 2008

Wednesday 9 July

ACL – Division Three (8.00)
St Paul's v Tullysaran (Kevin McNeice)


St Paul's 0-10   0-3 Tullysaran

Ref is a legend - awarded Tullysaran the first penalty because keeper saved ball with his foot!

if it was outside the small rectangle it could have been awarded for a foot block..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on July 10, 2008, 08:40:58 AM
Quote from: derrykid on July 10, 2008, 12:04:52 AM
RUFUS THE ATHLETIC GROUNDS TAB IS BACK AND YOR PHOTOS HASVE BEEN MOVED TO THAT THREAD. DO U HAVE ANY PHOTS OF THE PART OF THE GROUND FROM WERE UR TOOK THE PHOTOS FROM (THAT SIDE WOULD BE WELCOME)

Rufus I hope you're not tresspassing to get these photos! Def is good to see the progress being made though its long overdue.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 10, 2008, 08:52:40 AM


St Paul's 0-10   0-3 Tullysaran

Ref is a legend - awarded Tullysaran the first penalty because keeper saved ball with his foot!
[/quote]

I thought you would have been pretty happy the ref gave a penalty, becuz the ball ended up in the net a few seconds after it and we did miss the subsequent penalty...

Horrible game from a tullysaran point of view last nite..... we went in 4-3 down at half time having missed a penalty, then things went from bad to worse in the second half with gettn our midfielder sent off for absolutely nothing, then we had another goal ruled out for a very debatable square ball, then we missed another fricken penalty and then we had a bad injury to one of our key players..... stinking evening alround!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 10, 2008, 08:54:21 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on July 10, 2008, 08:52:40 AM


St Paul's 0-10   0-3 Tullysaran

Ref is a legend - awarded Tullysaran the first penalty because keeper saved ball with his foot!

I thought you would have been pretty happy the ref gave a penalty, becuz the ball ended up in the net a few seconds after it and we did miss the subsequent penalty...

Horrible game from a tullysaran point of view last nite..... we went in 4-3 down at half time having missed a penalty, then things went from bad to worse in the second half with gettn our midfielder sent off for absolutely nothing, then we had another goal ruled out for a very debatable square ball, then we missed another fricken penalty and then we had a bad injury to one of our key players..... stinking evening alround!
[/quote]

Hank who got injured ,and how bad was it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 10, 2008, 09:17:16 AM
I hear Clans have lost league points to Dromintee for a game they called off for their Golf classic weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 10, 2008, 09:23:58 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 10, 2008, 09:17:16 AM
I hear Clans have lost league points to Dromintee for a game they called off for their Golf classic weekend.

I haven't heard anything but i doubt it very much. We were prepared to play the game on the Sunday which was the origional fixture, because they change to a friday night 2 weeks before hand because Armagh are training that day is bollocks. The golf classic was booked a year ago so i think it would be very unreasanable for anything other than a re-fixture and we have been told by the county board thats it was ok to call it off...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 10, 2008, 09:34:58 AM
News allegedly came from McDonagh & your Co Board Chairman!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 10, 2008, 09:41:39 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 10, 2008, 09:34:58 AM
News allegedly came from McDonagh & your Co Board Chairman!!

I wouldn't doubt it with K Brady involved, he'd do the club a bad turn quicker than a good one >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 10, 2008, 10:43:17 AM

A stuffing for dromintee in cross last night i hear. any of the cross or dromintee lads about for a report?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 10, 2008, 12:00:51 PM
Was out of the country but I hear there was 16 in it at the end. I know we were missing a massive amount and I don't know about Cross, but that is still a massive total and one of Dromintees worst at this level. Report from one of the players is that the game did not reflect the score and three late, sloppy goals made it look a lot worse but the scoreline does not lie. I doubt Dromintee will be troubling them this year.

Re Marty Ferris: I don't know, the boy has stood out throughout underage level. There is obviously a lot better lads there like Shannon, Duffy etc for half back but he is still U21 and hasn't had a chance to impress , so the lad needs a chance. He has always been Cruppens best player the whole way up so I don't know what more he can do. He will improve and I actually thought he was thier best player against Madden.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 10, 2008, 12:14:32 PM
Seconnd best team in the county too  ;) ;) ;)  :D :D Handing out giraffes lads. Then trying to swindle points out of the old blues because they are knocking on the relegation door.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 10, 2008, 12:24:55 PM
A bit presumptious Win, who says it was Dromintee, it may be a county board decision.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 10, 2008, 12:48:01 PM

A poor performance though not as poor as the scoreline suggests. probably should have been ahead at half time. decent performance from gareth o'neill, eclipsing David McKenna, but that is probably the only bit of sunshine from the outing. we just can't cope in division one without our county men. if relegation comes then it'll be punishment for contributing players to the county cause.

on someone's previous post re the o'rourkes, it looks very much like that's the way things have gone. great pity.

Quote from: winsamsoon on July 10, 2008, 12:14:32 PM
Seconnd best team in the county too  ;) ;) ;)  :D :D Handing out giraffes lads. Then trying to swindle points out of the old blues because they are knocking on the relegation door.

bad and all as they are, they managed to go to davitt with half a team and win, so i don't see why we'd want to claim points from a home game. county board decision i'm told as there wasn't agreement to postpone the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 10, 2008, 12:50:47 PM


Hank who got injured ,and how bad was it?
[/quote]

Barry mckenna or Scholsey as he is known.... not sure for certain but think he dislocated his shoulder.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 10, 2008, 01:05:33 PM
Have the O'Rourkes definetly gone then :o I just assumed the rumours were balls as most tend to be.

What does the future hold for them then??  Registering with a hurling club or some nonsense to make sure they can play Co football or ply their trade in Louth?  They'd be more than welcome at Armagh Harps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 10, 2008, 01:06:58 PM
Lads don't be jumping to any conclusions on what Aghdavoyle is saying.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 10, 2008, 01:07:12 PM
or Clady!  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 10, 2008, 01:19:06 PM
Maybe Uladh will get them registered with Corrinshego ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 10, 2008, 01:22:20 PM

They wouldn't have the breeding....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 10, 2008, 01:22:47 PM
BC I can't make out thw writing on your logo, what is it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 10, 2008, 01:26:22 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 10, 2008, 01:22:47 PM
BC I can't make out thw writing on your logo, what is it?

Corn all I have is a red x.  I had a photo of a broken cross bar but lost it. Not very good on the auld techno stuff. Is there something else ther now?

Uladh, there is too much class in Corrinshego, shure you even have Sinn Fein councillors as past stalwarts!

Any truth in the rumours about them?  There seems to be one every year but it doesn't amount to much.  I have to say if they go Dromintee will struggle to stay up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 10, 2008, 01:26:47 PM
The pats in louth have been mentioned as a possible destination by the way. only a rumour mind...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 10, 2008, 01:27:13 PM
It was like a blue heart with writing around it, it is a red x now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bud on July 10, 2008, 01:30:24 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on July 10, 2008, 12:48:01 PM

on someone's previous post re the o'rourkes, it looks very much like that's the way things have gone. great pity.


I don't think he is referring to the o rourkes leaving, i think he is refering to  post saying that dromintee struggle without the 3 of them!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 10, 2008, 01:36:30 PM

I was thinking that we have too much class bc!  :D

Not sure i've heard any rumours about them before as they've always been the heart and soul of that dromintee team. i'll believe these rumours when i actually see them with a different jersey on to be honest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 10, 2008, 01:54:11 PM
Everyone knows there has been problems in Dromintee this year, and our resultsd have certainly reflected it.

There is things to be sorted out, but they will be sorted out. The fact that Cathal and Malachy O Rourke were managers against Cross last night should end any specualtion that here has been an O Rourke walk out. I don't play so I don't know the full story.

BC dead right, without them we would struggle. Class acts the lot of them.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 10, 2008, 02:18:09 PM

i was referring to this post:

Quote from: The GAA on July 07, 2008, 01:00:44 PM

I heard over the weekend that Dromintee will be without all of the o'rourkes for good. not sure how reliable the fella who told me is but he's a dromintee man

Quote from: corn02 on July 10, 2008, 01:54:11 PM
Everyone knows there has been problems in Dromintee this year, and our resultsd have certainly reflected it.

There is things to be sorted out, but they will be sorted out.

before we're relegated i hope
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on July 10, 2008, 02:29:08 PM
what is dromintees run in like? can anyone stick up the remaining fixtures of the relegation candidates? who do maghery play this weekend cuz if they get beat i feel they are down. anyone predict the minium points to keep a team up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 10, 2008, 03:25:47 PM
Harps still have
Culloville (home) this sunday although we'll be lucky to field by the sounds of it.
Ogs home & away
Maghery away
Dromintee Home

Dont know the order
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on July 10, 2008, 03:42:26 PM
Think the ogs will have a big say in who gets relegated as they have to play harps home and away, killeavy away, maghery away and dromintee at home, all of which are in the relegation fight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on July 10, 2008, 05:35:33 PM
Ive a feeling that dromintee will stay up, whats there fixtures??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on July 11, 2008, 11:14:00 AM
so do i  ;)   ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 11, 2008, 12:17:02 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on July 11, 2008, 11:14:00 AM
so do i  ;)   ;D

So do i. although i hope it's not with our 2 free points ;) There is no way the County Board should be allowed to give Dromintee the points from the Clans game, the teams around Dromintee would not be too happy about that neither would we >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 11, 2008, 12:29:52 PM

think we've to play harps (a), cullyhanna (h), Ogs (a), clans (h), and killeavy (h & a).

all games we'd normally expect points from.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 11, 2008, 12:31:02 PM
I was at the Co Board meeting when McDonagh said that the rules concerning moving/rearranging games would be strictly enforced - think it was 6 weeks notification required(for other than deaths etc..).  There may quite possibly be more to it than I know, but if you cant follow clearly stated rules it's your own fault.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 11, 2008, 12:40:42 PM

There's definately something about 2 weeks written notice for calling games off, even if there'sa good reason. ironically we tried to call our away fixturw with clans off and were told that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 11, 2008, 02:44:05 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on July 11, 2008, 12:40:42 PM

There's definately something about 2 weeks written notice for calling games off, even if there'sa good reason. ironically we tried to call our away fixturw with clans off and were told that.

i'M NOT TO SURE ABOUT THE IN'S AND OUTS OF THE WHOLE THING BUT I'M SURE MR MCDONAGH WILL SORT IT OUT

The Killeavey games home & away will be big games for you!!! As i suppose will be the Harps... Cullyhana and Clans won't matter much ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Erwin Rommel on July 11, 2008, 09:38:12 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on July 11, 2008, 12:29:52 PM

think we've to play harps (a), cullyhanna (h), Ogs (a), clans (h), and killeavy (h & a).

all games we'd normally expect points from.

I see so - with regard to the Harps, that expectation must be based on your historical record in the league when visiting Abbey Park - let me see, whats your record there in the league again.   ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2008, 10:17:49 PM
Cruppen beat the 'bridge by a point - heard the lads played shocking well with some key players missing and were robbed of a point at the end.  Pity.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on July 11, 2008, 11:35:48 PM
Quote from: derrykid on July 10, 2008, 12:04:52 AM
RUFUS THE ATHLETIC GROUNDS TAB IS BACK AND YOR PHOTOS HASVE BEEN MOVED TO THAT THREAD. DO U HAVE ANY PHOTS OF THE PART OF THE GROUND FROM WERE UR TOOK THE PHOTOS FROM (THAT SIDE WOULD BE WELCOME)

Not an awful lot to see on that side Shane to be honest. Just what you can see in the foreground!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rattle-the-net on July 11, 2008, 11:52:13 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2008, 10:17:49 PM
Cruppen beat the 'bridge by a point - heard the lads played shocking well with some key players missing and were robbed of a point at the end.  Pity.

well to be honest was at the game and the ref kept the bridge in it!!! They did have some good passages of play but have to admit, ref gave them a lot of easy frees in the scoring zone! 

cruppen badly needed that win to keep their promotion hopes alive, they have another tough one on sunday againest tir na nog!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2008, 11:55:09 PM
Quote from: rattle-the-net on July 11, 2008, 11:52:13 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2008, 10:17:49 PM
Cruppen beat the 'bridge by a point - heard the lads played shocking well with some key players missing and were robbed of a point at the end.  Pity.

well to be honest was at the game and the ref kept the bridge in it!!! They did have some good passages of play but have to admit, ref gave them a lot of easy frees in the scoring zone! 

cruppen badly needed that win to keep their promotion hopes alive, they have another tough one on sunday againest tir na nog!

Well that's what happens when you foul.  - I heard we got nothing of the ref.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 12, 2008, 12:11:56 AM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on July 11, 2008, 09:38:12 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on July 11, 2008, 12:29:52 PM

think we've to play harps (a), cullyhanna (h), Ogs (a), clans (h), and killeavy (h & a).

all games we'd normally expect points from.

I see so - with regard to the Harps, that expectation must be based on your historical record in the league when visiting Abbey Park - let me see, whats your record there in the league again.   ;)

School holidays time again. i simply meant that in normal circumstances we could have a good chance of points in all of those games - not that i'd expect to win each.

i think dromintee lost in abbey park last year and won the year before. harps were possibly in division 2 the year before that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on July 12, 2008, 12:24:22 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2008, 11:55:09 PM
Quote from: rattle-the-net on July 11, 2008, 11:52:13 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2008, 10:17:49 PM
Cruppen beat the 'bridge by a point - heard the lads played shocking well with some key players missing and were robbed of a point at the end.  Pity.

well to be honest was at the game and the ref kept the bridge in it!!! They did have some good passages of play but have to admit, ref gave them a lot of easy frees in the scoring zone! 

cruppen badly needed that win to keep their promotion hopes alive, they have another tough one on sunday againest tir na nog!

Well that's what happens when you foul.  - I heard we got nothing of the ref.
as u weren't at the game pints why bother talkin about it .those who were at the game know what the referee was like and how the game went ::) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 12, 2008, 12:35:53 AM
Quote from: mousey on July 12, 2008, 12:24:22 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2008, 11:55:09 PM
Quote from: rattle-the-net on July 11, 2008, 11:52:13 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2008, 10:17:49 PM
Cruppen beat the 'bridge by a point - heard the lads played shocking well with some key players missing and were robbed of a point at the end.  Pity.

well to be honest was at the game and the ref kept the bridge in it!!! They did have some good passages of play but have to admit, ref gave them a lot of easy frees in the scoring zone! 

cruppen badly needed that win to keep their promotion hopes alive, they have another tough one on sunday againest tir na nog!

Well that's what happens when you foul.  - I heard we got nothing of the ref.
as u weren't at the game pints why bother talkin about it .those who were at the game know what the referee was like and how the game went ::) :D


I can't be bothered anymore. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on July 12, 2008, 02:47:40 AM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on July 11, 2008, 09:38:12 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on July 11, 2008, 12:29:52 PM

think we've to play harps (a), cullyhanna (h), Ogs (a), clans (h), and killeavy (h & a).

all games we'd normally expect points from.

I see so - with regard to the Harps, that expectation must be based on your historical record in the league when visiting Abbey Park - let me see, whats your record there in the league again.   ;)


SPOT THE GRADUATE
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 12, 2008, 02:55:12 AM
It is funny when i see the Dromintee guys on here slabbering about the clans being arrogant. Have a read back over your own posts and you will see the arrogance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 12, 2008, 03:56:32 PM

You farly work hard to start arguments win, i'll give you that!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 12, 2008, 04:22:19 PM
nobody said it was easy but it always seems to be the village idiots that take the bait.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rattle-the-net on July 12, 2008, 07:54:33 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2008, 11:55:09 PM
Quote from: rattle-the-net on July 11, 2008, 11:52:13 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2008, 10:17:49 PM
Cruppen beat the 'bridge by a point - heard the lads played shocking well with some key players missing and were robbed of a point at the end.  Pity.

well to be honest was at the game and the ref kept the bridge in it!!! They did have some good passages of play but have to admit, ref gave them a lot of easy frees in the scoring zone! 

cruppen badly needed that win to keep their promotion hopes alive, they have another tough one on sunday againest tir na nog!

Well that's what happens when you foul.  - I heard we got nothing of the ref.
well if you classify good tackling as fouling then you may think again!! there was one occasion were a cruppen man done the perfect near hand tackle ( that you would teach a youngster to do) and he was blown up for it because the bridge man went down to the ground for because he was of balance...and that happended on several occassios!! but the ref def did not give them nothing!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on July 13, 2008, 05:37:20 PM
Any results from 2day lads? Nab beat granemore 13 to 1.8
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on July 13, 2008, 05:39:18 PM
Cullovile 1-14
Harps 0-11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on July 13, 2008, 06:25:13 PM
madden beat beleeks!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 13, 2008, 07:46:04 PM
St Pat's drew with Mullaghban. 1-9 to 0-12 or thereabouts. Mullaghban started much the stronger and opened an early lead but a lobbied goal from Barry McConville put Cullyhanna 1-1 to 0-3 ahead. Cullyhanna controlled the next period, picking off the next few scores. The tactic of playing centre half forward Paul Toner in front of the full back line was proving very successful in dealing with Mullaghban's attacks. Mullaghban came back into the match after Owen Casey was sent off for an off the ball incident. St Pat's led 1-4 to 0-6 at half time.

The second half was very even with both sides looking like they could take victory at various stages. I suppose by the end, a draw was probably the fair result. Mullaghban will probably be dissappointed they didn't make better use of the extra man. Best for Cullyhanna was probably Mal Mackin at midfield.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on July 13, 2008, 09:29:13 PM
mullaghban and st pats ended level with cullyhanna playing most off the game with 14 men o Casey getting sent off for something off the ball never seen it.i thought cullyhanna done well with 14 men and could have won the game in the end and again it was another great game for Mal mackin winning the mid field and his partner scoring the only goal off the game.in the 2nd half st pats took the wrong choice off ball some times in front off goal and sort off panicked a bit and just kicked it to get rid off it.i think mullaghban could have played there free man a bit better and pushed up a bit more and closed the game out but they sat back and let st pats take the game to them.Paul tonor played the swipper well and cut out the ball going into the mullaghban forwards so all in all a draw was a fair result.still some strong players to come into that st pats team ciaran o hare Liam o hare ciaran mc keever paudie mc creesh and Shane Lennon never played to day so that would be nice to sit down and pick a team with them still to come in
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 13, 2008, 10:51:53 PM
lads any chance of someone making an attempt at posting an updated table??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 14, 2008, 10:59:54 AM
It seems every week TAM and the Dorsey lads come on here and say Mackin is playing MOTM football. Was McDonell a bit premature in dropping him. Personally when he played for Armagh I awlays thought he done better than people gave him credit for and was involved in a lot of work thatbenefited the team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on July 14, 2008, 01:25:15 PM
Mal has been outstanding in most of the games that he has played for st pats this season and I think that it is fair to say he has dug us out of a few tricky situations this season. I think that playing regular football every week has been a big help to him and has helped build his confidence up again. while involved with the county he was on the bench more often than not and only getting to play at training as well as missing most club games. However i do feel that he deserves another chance with Armagh (although it would be bad news for us). That last game that he palyed against Monaghan was harsh to judge him on as he had missed the entire pre -seaon with a groin injury and had only had an operation two weeks previous to the match.So far this season he has palyed well on Gareth O Neill David Mc Kenna Collie Holmes and last season in the club matches he was more than a match for Kieran Toner. I think that he is no worse than any of these guys who are supposed ahead of hiom in the county pecking order.

Was one of the few players on both sides yeaterday who looked a class act in an otherwise poor game of football. It was probably cullyhannas worst performance of the season and with a man sent off a point was a good result away from home.

Btw can any of the clans men confirm that we are playiong them in the all county b-league tomorrow night. i dont see a fixture anywhere but i here that the gaem is supposed to be in davitt park at 8.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 14, 2008, 02:04:53 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on July 14, 2008, 01:25:15 PM
.So far this season he has palyed well on Gareth O Neill


Did Gareth play that day?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on July 14, 2008, 02:18:06 PM
i stand corrected. it may have been shane o neill and vincy martin who were midfield for dromintee that day. Both fair players however.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 14, 2008, 04:04:27 PM
Quotei stand corrected. it may have been shane o neill and vincy martin who were midfield for dromintee that day. Both fair players however.

For some reason I think Shane mighta been in the half forwards against us in the League. Wouldn't swear to it though. Mal's having an excellent season no doubt. Our player of the year so far anyway. Catches an excellent amount of clean ball and is very strong running forward.

Woulda been about 3 years ago he was partnering Sean Cavanagh at midfield for the Poly and while he wouldn't have Cavanagh's class he was certainly a good partner at midfield for the Tyrone man. I'd say he'll get another chance with Armagh at some stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 14, 2008, 04:20:05 PM
Im not being smart, I genuinely can't remeber if Gareth was playing that day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on July 14, 2008, 11:57:24 PM
mal mackin is playing on a team that only has come up from DIV 2 and not so long ago went to a play off to stay in DIV 2.on like david mc kenna who is play with 4 or 5 county players around him and making him look good martin ferris took him out off it in silver bridge in the under 21 semi final when he had no county men around him for help and he was made to look for what he is a good club man but not a county player.mal mackin has played against the best and done well with armagh so i think its armaghs lost and cullyhanna gain that he was cut from the panal in a area that they are very weak if u take out paul mc grane.when down crowded the middle kieran toner was out muscled and armagh lost mid field so to me mal is as good a partner there is to play along side mc grane on the armagh team. ( good luck to ciaran mc keever and armagh on sunday )
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 15, 2008, 12:02:34 PM
I hate the school holidays  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on July 15, 2008, 01:01:07 PM
Quoteon like david mc kenna who is play with 4 or 5 county players around him and making him look good martin ferris took him out off it in silver bridge in the under 21 semi final when he had no county men around him for help and he was made to look for what he is a good club man but not a county player.
Sure if McKenna was playing for Armagh he would have at least 4 or 5 county players around him.
He is a much better prospect than Mackin who has got numerous chances with the county and was not good enough to retain his place in the final panel of 35 never mind make the starting 15.
Maybe the Cullyhanna posters should remove their rose coloured glasses.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 15, 2008, 02:00:42 PM
spot on exile.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 15, 2008, 05:20:56 PM
QuoteSure if McKenna was playing for Armagh he would have at least 4 or 5 county players around him.
He is a much better prospect than Mackin who has got numerous chances with the county and was not good enough to retain his place in the final panel of 35 never mind make the starting 15.
Maybe the Cullyhanna posters should remove their rose coloured glasses.

If you have a look at what was actually said, it wasn't anybody from Cullyhanna who brought up the county panel in connection with Mal. He's had his chance with Armagh and has some good games, others not so good perhaps although he has had good games in the championship. Certainly he's been one of the better club players in the first division this year.

As for McKenna, he may make it for Armagh at some stage in the future but to be honest I think we have better options in the likes of O'Neill, Toner and James Lavery.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 15, 2008, 11:14:44 PM
I don't think McKenna is good enough yet, his timing for catching is suspect. I would actually have Mackin on the squad before him. But he is young and seems to have a good attitude, pioneer and all that, so a bit of experience and he will be flying.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 16, 2008, 09:08:40 AM
Clans v St Pats (B league) match is off tonight, not sure why but when i was in the club last night collecting my tickets for the Armagh game i was told by our Secretary that he called it off...I was looking forward to that match to blow the cobwebs out ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 16, 2008, 09:17:05 AM
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 13 JULY 2008

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 13 12 2 0 26
Culloville 14 8 1 5 17
Clan na Gael 13 6 3 4 15
St Patrick's 14 7 1 6 15
Pearse Og 12 6 2 4 14
Mullaghbawn 15 5 2 8 12
Killeavey 13 5 0 8 10
Harps 14 4 2 8 10
Dromintee 12 4 1 7 9
Maghery 13 2 2 9 6

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 15 11 1 3 23
St Michael's 15 9 1 5 19
Carrickcruppen 15 9 1 5 19
Tir na nÓg 14 9 0 5 18
Clann Eireann 14 8 1 5 17
Granemore 14 7 0 7 14
Ballymacnab 14 6 1 7 13
Wolfe Tone 14 6 0 8 12
Silverbridge 13 5 1 7 11
Whitecross 14 4 0 10 8
An Port Mor 14 3 1 10 7
Keady 10 2 1 7 5

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
St Paul's 14 11 1 2 23
Madden 13 10 2 1 22
Collegeland 15 10 2 3 22
Ballyhegan 13 8 0 5 16
Annaghmore 14 8 0 6 16
Belleek 14 7 2 5 16
St Peter's 14 5 2 7 12
Clonmore 14 4 3 7 11
Lissummon 14 4 3 7 11
Tullysaran 14 3 2 9 8
Grange 14 2 1 11 5
Crossmaglen II 13 1 2 10 4

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 13 12 1 0 25
Eire Og 13 9 1 3 19
Middletown 11 7 3 1 17
Forkhill 14 8 1 5 17
Clady 11 6 2 3 14
Derrynoose 11 7 0 4 14
O'Hanlon's 13 6 0 7 12
Corrinshego 12 3 1 8 7
Dorsey Emmett's 13 3 0 10 6
Mullaghbrack 13 2 1 10 5
Phelim Brady's 12 0 0 12 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 16, 2008, 09:17:44 AM
Bit of good news for Harpsmen, Peadar Toal returned to training last night.  Great news with the league the way it is and the championship on the horizon!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 16, 2008, 12:11:32 PM
that's good news for the harps surely.  what are his fitness levels like?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 16, 2008, 12:21:03 PM
Didn't see him train, but looking fit anyway, built like a shithouse now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 16, 2008, 12:33:46 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 16, 2008, 12:21:03 PM
Didn't see him train, but looking fit anyway, built like a shithouse now.

I was talking to him a few weeks back, he's got big alright.  you's could be doin with him at the minute, only four games left.  Pressure is on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 16, 2008, 12:58:56 PM
LAD'S I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE ONE HELL OF A RELEGATION BATTLE THIS YEAR. I BELIEVE CLANS, ST PATS AND THE OGS WILL BE FINE AS 1 MORE WIN WILL PROB KEEP THEM SAFE BUT AS FOR THE REST OF THE CLUBS IT IS GONNA BE DOG EAT DOG. I BELIEVE MAGHERY ARE DOWN (I THINK WE ALL WOULD AGREE ON THAT) SO WHAT TEAM DO YOU THINK WILL JOIN THEM...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 16, 2008, 01:03:16 PM
Our games left to play are

St Pats (H)
Dromintee (H)
Maghery (A)
Kileavey (A)
Harps (H) & (A)

mostly the teams from the relegation battle.  It's gonna be an interesting month
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 16, 2008, 01:23:16 PM
Maghery are likely to go down, even if they pick up teo points in Cross on Friday evening :P

I think then it could be any one of the teams from Pearse ogs down in the league.  I think the Ogs will be alright.  If they have two games against the Harps they could win both of them and this would put Harps in a very precarious position.  I think Dromintee will find it difficult.  I think Killeavy will stay up as will Mullaghbawn.

In a toss up between Harps and Dromintee, I would have to say I think Dromintee will stay, they have two extra games over Harps and I think the two games Harps have against the Ogs will determine where they play football next year and I think they will lose both.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on July 16, 2008, 01:52:36 PM
A fine review there BC1

The cheques in the post  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 16, 2008, 02:13:52 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 16, 2008, 01:23:16 PM
Maghery are likely to go down, even if they pick up teo points in Cross on Friday evening :P

I think then it could be any one of the teams from Pearse ogs down in the league.  I think the Ogs will be alright.  If they have two games against the Harps they could win both of them and this would put Harps in a very precarious position.  I think Dromintee will find it difficult.  I think Killeavy will stay up as will Mullaghbawn.

In a toss up between Harps and Dromintee, I would have to say I think Dromintee will stay, they have two extra games over Harps and I think the two games Harps have against the Ogs will determine where they play football next year and I think they will lose both.

I would agree to a certain point but if the Harps play the Ogs without county men then they have a very good chance of beating the Ogs as the Ogs really struggle without them (as all teams would with the exception of one) although if we go down that route of no county players available then the team struggling the most without them is Dromintee, i think it all depends on the availability of the county men and if they are not free to play for their clubs the rest of the campaign then i think Dromintee will go down, Mullaghbawn are not playing well at the minute and they could be sucked in too but they always seem to dig deep for a result when needed. (they're a dogged bunch them bawn men)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on July 16, 2008, 03:47:39 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 16, 2008, 09:17:44 AM
Bit of good news for Harpsmen, Peadar Toal returned to training last night.  Great news with the league the way it is and the championship on the horizon!

Great news.  As naturally gifted a player in the county.  Hope the absence has made his love of the game stronger, though I hear a local soccer side has him on their books.  Would love if he concentrated fully on the Gaelic.

Na Clairsigh abu!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 16, 2008, 04:18:12 PM
Its that tight we could end up with a relegation play off, possibly involving more than 2 teams. Could see Killeavy going down, of all the teams I've seen playing this year, I'd probably rate them the poorest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 16, 2008, 04:31:36 PM
Maghery must be up there lad. All i can say is that loughshore, i will be looking forward to you leaving the 100 squid behind the bar in the clans.  ;) ;) Easy money son. I think it will maghery and Harps myself both teams are really struggling and don't seem to be capable of pulling off a shock result. Dromintee, mullagbawn and Klleavy are imo.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 16, 2008, 05:53:20 PM
bulletts must be over, but great news indeed, i think with Paedar back it will lft the boys and maybe we can pick up 2 points on Friday. A win on Friday would drag a few more teams into the mix.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 17, 2008, 08:30:14 AM
Quote from: fcuksake on July 16, 2008, 05:53:20 PM
bulletts must be over, but great news indeed,

I think Peadar won the Ulster intermediate, so will be throwing in the All Ireland final the first weekend in August.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 17, 2008, 09:12:25 AM
Peadar mightn't be doing a big pile for a while, I hear he went over on his ankle in training the other night. :-\ :(  Dont know how serious it is, but it was swollen pretty quickly apparently.

Only one Armagh winner in Cork all weekend at the bullets ???  A good Harps woman at that, hear a few Blawawatertown lads got a bit of a skelping(deserved)?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 17, 2008, 10:24:03 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 17, 2008, 09:12:25 AM
Peadar mightn't be doing a big pile for a while, I hear he went over on his ankle in training the other night. :-\ :(  Dont know how serious it is, but it was swollen pretty quickly apparently.

Only one Armagh winner in Cork all weekend at the bullets ???  A good Harps woman at that, hear a few Blawawatertown lads got a bit of a skelping(deserved)?

Unfortunately, gone are the days that I headed down to Cork religiously twice a year.  I didn't hear any reports.

There doesn't be many young lads from Blackwater that go to the bullets, so there must have been a few guys who should know better.

What did you hear happened Benny?  Send me a PM if libellous  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on July 17, 2008, 10:51:52 AM
The Ogs B team drew with Cross B's last night. Ogs were leading by 5 to go until Cross introduce J. Hanratty and they levelled it with the last kick of the game

In though young Hanratty would be a regular on the senior team or Seconds at least, is his form that bad at the mment that he can only make it on the bench of the club reserve team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 17, 2008, 11:13:36 AM
Just heard they were doing a bit of slabbering or whatever SJ, think it was a t**ker crowd that sorted them - although I'm only repeating what I heard and cant be sure if it's 100% true.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 17, 2008, 12:07:29 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on July 17, 2008, 10:51:52 AM
The Ogs B team drew with Cross B's last night. Ogs were leading by 5 to go until Cross introduce J. Hanratty and they levelled it with the last kick of the game

In though young Hanratty would be a regular on the senior team or Seconds at least, is his form that bad at the mment that he can only make it on the bench of the club reserve team

It could be that he was injured and just needs game time coming back ??? If not it is some fall for the lad to be featuring in the 6 o clock news and newspapers in one of Cross big games last year or the year before can't remember (Hope i'm thinking of the same lad, was it the incident where he was arrested at the house and was touch and go if he'd be realised to play for Cross in a big game that weekend)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 17, 2008, 12:12:28 PM
What way is the ticket situation at home? everyone get sorted and had the clubs enough?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 17, 2008, 12:36:16 PM
QuoteWhat way is the ticket situation at home? everyone get sorted and had the clubs enough?

I'd say everyone will get a ticket in the end but the clubs (or our club at least but I think the story's repeated else where) didn't have enough seated tickets. According to a poster on orchardcounty, those who join the "Friends of Armagh" scheme get first refusal on the seated tickets.

On Johnny Hanratty, wouldn't be that surprised to see him playing B football. He's been playing for the seniors this year but probably isn't named on the first XV for the 1st division side and wouldn't be involved with the 3rd division team so is eligible for the Bs. Probably just helping out the Bs or getting back to fitness if he's had an injury. Didn't play the South Armagh B c'ship final but then wouldn't be eligible as he'd have played senior c'ship last year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mhacadoir on July 17, 2008, 12:56:37 PM
seated tickets for middletown were extremely limited, only three for gerry arthurs and they all for the front row
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 18, 2008, 10:20:05 AM
Big battle tonight Harps v Dromintee. Have to work so will be missing it but should be a cracker. Dromintee's saving grace this year has been their away form. (two defeats in seven or something), hopefully it continues tonight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on July 18, 2008, 10:21:54 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 18, 2008, 10:20:05 AM
Big battle tonight Harps v Dromintee. Have to work so will be missing it but should be a cracker. Dromintee's saving grace this year has been their away form. (two defeats in seven or something), hopefully it continues tonight.

Corn you should be Ok harps are an extremely poor team and lets hope they go down ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 18, 2008, 10:32:29 AM
They wern't too bad when they tanked us in Dromintee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on July 18, 2008, 11:17:46 AM
anybody got a full list of fixtures for tonites games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 18, 2008, 11:51:21 AM
Wednesday 16 July

All-County 'B' League – Group A (8.00)
Granemore v Ballyhegan (Oliver Hearty)
Sarsfields v Silverbridge (Malachy McNicholl)
Crossmaglen v Pearse Og (Dessie McDonnell)

All-County 'B' League – Group B (8.00)
Harps v Madden (Jim Slevin)
Clan na Gael v St Patrick's (Barney Henry)
Killeavey v Ballymacnab (Paudie Hughes)


Thursday 17 July

All-County Under-16 League – Group A (7.30)
Keady v Naomh Eoin (Henry McCloy)
St Peter's v Silverbridge (Stephen Murray)
St Patrick's v Harps (Noel Martin)

All-County Under-16 League – Group B (7.30)
Pearse Og v Sarsfields (Paudie Hughes)
Tir na nÓg v Crossmaglen (Tony O'Hare)
Shane O'Neill's v Clann Eireann (Joe Murtagh)


Friday 18 July

ACL – Division One (8.00)
Crossmaglen v Maghery (Gary Smith)
Harps v Dromintee (Brendan Gorman)
Clan na Gael v Killeavey (Noel Martin)
Culloville v Mullaghbawn (Ronan Quigley)
Pearse Og v St Patrick's (Barney Henry)

ACL – Division Two (8.00)
Wolfe Tone v Tir na nÓg (Jimmy McKee)
Keady v Sarsfields (Kevin Gallogly)
Carrickcruppen v Whitecross (Damian McConville)
Granemore v St Michael's (Stephen Murray)
Silverbridge v An Port Mor (Oliver Hearty)
Ballymacnab v Clann Eireann (Off)

ACL – Division Three (8.00)
Madden v Collegeland (Paudie Hughes)
Tullysaran v Ballyhegan (Joe Murtagh)
Lissummon v St Paul's (Rory Robinson)
Crossmaglen II v Belleek (Off)
St Peter's v Clonmore (Off)
Grange v Annaghmore (Off)

ACL – Division Four (8.00)
Derrynoose v Eire Og (Vincent O'Neill)
Clady v Forkhill (Mickey Leonard)
Mullaghbrack v Middletown (Patrick Duffy)
Corrinshego v O'Hanlon's (Sean McClatchey)
Shane O'Neill's v Phelim Brady's (Stephen McKinley)


Monday 21 July

All-County Minor League – Group A (7.30)
Granemore v St Paul's (Sean McClatchey)
Sarsfields v Carrickcruppen (Stephen Murray)
St Patrick's v Harps (Dessie McDonnell)

All-County Minor League – Group B (7.30)
Ballymacnab v Maghery (Patrick Duffy)
Clan na Gael v Killeavey (Mickey Leonard)
Crossmaglen v Tullysaran (Jim Burns)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on July 18, 2008, 12:56:48 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 18, 2008, 10:32:29 AM
They wern't too bad when they tanked us in Dromintee.

That speaks volumes for the current situation in Dromintee- i hope you both go down
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 18, 2008, 12:58:17 PM
Ha brillaint, what club are you from?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on July 18, 2008, 01:20:45 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 18, 2008, 12:58:17 PM
Ha brillaint, what club are you from?

The famous clan na gael Lurgan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaa.boy on July 18, 2008, 01:26:59 PM
Is that the same Clan na gael who were lucky to scrape a draw in abbey park this year (courtesy of the ref helping them)?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on July 18, 2008, 01:44:56 PM
Quote from: gaa.boy on July 18, 2008, 01:26:59 PM
Is that the same Clan na gael who were lucky to scrape a draw in abbey park this year (courtesy of the ref helping them)?

correct son also the same clan na gael who destroyed the harps a few weeks back

Clan Na Gael  3 - 11    v  Armagh Harps  0 - 7 
Davitt Park
27/06/2008 20:00:00


just hope youse continue to struggle and enjoy division 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 18, 2008, 02:18:48 PM
Illdecide and Win must be cringing when you post.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on July 18, 2008, 02:38:39 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 18, 2008, 02:18:48 PM
Illdecide and Win must be cringing when you post.

I am worried what them two think- your weee club doesnt like it when somewone comes on the board and speaks the truth :-* :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 18, 2008, 03:57:08 PM
cringe
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on July 18, 2008, 04:05:16 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 18, 2008, 03:57:08 PM
cringe

good response there corn - that must be a great dictonary that you have with you today     :-* :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 18, 2008, 04:44:38 PM
cringes again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on July 18, 2008, 05:06:54 PM
GAAPunter - not to be personal or anything but you are a c**k and an exceedingly lame one at that - think I said this before in a previous post somewhere - you are just horrible. No offense like......

On other note the league gets exciting at this stage - typical though that it is the releagtion battle that has the excitement and not the top of the table....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 18, 2008, 05:13:37 PM
QuoteOn other note the league gets exciting at this stage - typical though that it is the relegation battle that has the excitement and not the top of the table....

In fairness, Cross running away with the League the way they have done this year hasn't been that common over the years. Of the 12 championships a row, how many leagues would they have won in that period? They were definitely a few years they didn't.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 18, 2008, 06:23:59 PM
gaapunter i foresee brilliant contributions from you! what age are you? are you old enough to punt 'son' ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on July 18, 2008, 06:40:09 PM
Nail, any odds on brian mallon 1st goalscorer on sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 18, 2008, 06:57:51 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 18, 2008, 06:40:09 PM
Nail, any odds on brian mallon 1st goalscorer on sunday?

12/1 fred... would give ya 14/1 if ya came into my place dressed like this
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on July 18, 2008, 07:11:34 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 18, 2008, 06:57:51 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 18, 2008, 06:40:09 PM
Nail, any odds on brian mallon 1st goalscorer on sunday?

12/1 fred... would give ya 14/1 if ya came into my place dressed like this


Weres your place?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 18, 2008, 07:22:15 PM
Frenchs bookies
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 18, 2008, 09:19:40 PM
Ogs v St Pats match abandoned at half time.

Paudi Hughes called the game off at the break after being threatened by the St Pats physio when coming off the field.

Pearse Ogs were winning 10 - 4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on July 18, 2008, 09:45:43 PM
That man is a complete tool - always has to be centre of attention!! Any other scores from tonights games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 18, 2008, 10:14:46 PM
QuoteOgs v St Pats match abandoned at half time.

Paudi Hughes called the game off at the break after being threatened by the St Pats physio when coming off the field.

Pearse Ogs were winning 10 - 4

Was he actually threatened or was it just the same verbals you hear at every match up and down the country? First of all, our physio shouldn't have said a word to the referee. No doubt about that - whatever his grievances about the two injuries we picked up in the first half, one from a late challenge that went unpunsihed, there's no point giving off the referee and he should have kept his cool. The verbal abuse referees get is undeserved for doing such a thankless task. But why in the hell could Paudie Hughes not have reacted the same way any referee with any ounce of common sense would have and sent the physio off the pitch and reported him for verbal abuse? Absolutely no need to call an entire match off. Would he have done the same thing if an intercounty physio gave him bad manners during a big game at Croke Park? Complete joke what happened tonight.

As for the match itself, Ogs were well on top and it would have taken a big second half turnaround for Cullyhanna to get back into the game. Our main concerns is the injuries we picked up with the championship only a week away. Stephen Reel and Paul Toner were both carried off with bad enough looking injuries, indeed Paul went to hospital after being challenged after kicking an excellent point. Mal Mackin was also unfit to start so it was a bit of a disastrous night all round.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 18, 2008, 10:17:45 PM
Cross beat maghery by 4 points,

Good, high scoring, game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 18, 2008, 10:22:02 PM

Paudie disgraces himself again. some things never change
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 18, 2008, 10:30:01 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 18, 2008, 10:14:46 PM
QuoteOgs v St Pats match abandoned at half time.

Paudi Hughes called the game off at the break after being threatened by the St Pats physio when coming off the field.

Pearse Ogs were winning 10 - 4

Was he actually threatened or was it just the same verbals you hear at every match up and down the country? First of all, our physio shouldn't have said a word to the referee. No doubt about that - whatever his grievances about the two injuries we picked up in the first half, one from a late challenge that went unpunsihed, there's no point giving off the referee and he should have kept his cool. The verbal abuse referees get is undeserved for doing such a thankless task. But why in the hell could Paudie Hughes not have reacted the same way any referee with any ounce of common sense would have and sent the physio off the pitch and reported him for verbal abuse? Absolutely no need to call an entire match off. Would he have done the same thing if an intercounty physio gave him bad manners during a big game at Croke Park? Complete joke what happened tonight.

As for the match itself, Ogs were well on top and it would have taken a big second half turnaround for Cullyhanna to get back into the game. Our main concerns is the injuries we picked up with the championship only a week away. Stephen Reel and Paul Toner were both carried off with bad enough looking injuries, indeed Paul went to hospital after being challenged after kicking an excellent point. Mal Mackin was also unfit to start so it was a bit of a disastrous night all round.

I don't know what exactly was said because both teams were in the changing rooms at the time.  I think he could have sent the physio off the pitch and the match could have been played on. 

Paul Toner looked to be sore when he was coming off the field. 

It will be interesting to hear what the referees report will be to the county board.  What will happen with the points??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on July 18, 2008, 10:51:31 PM
Paudi was spot on .
same ould shite from cullyhanna.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 18, 2008, 11:05:09 PM
QuoteIt will be interesting to hear what the referees report will be to the county board.  What will happen with the points??

I'd be amazed if Ogs didn't get the points. There's no way the county board won't back their intercounty referee.

QuotePaudi was spot on .
same ould shite from cullyhanna.

So no one from Pearse Ogs ever gives a referee any stick?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on July 18, 2008, 11:32:34 PM
Wasnt at the match myself but I hear that Paul Toner has a broken ankle and is possibly out for the rest of the season.

As usual Paidi nakes himself the centre of attention at all times.He just loves to hear himself talk and to act dramatically.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rubberneck on July 18, 2008, 11:42:46 PM
wot the hell is wrong with these people who think that having a go at referees is OK ,if the refs were to give as much s**t to the managers/physio's/players as they get then the fun would really begin. Why would you want to go to a senior game at the moment when all you hear is foul abusive language from managers and players, if you were to go out for the day with your family would you want them to hear nothing only this s**t. Where has all the fun and enjoyment gone in our beautiful game. ??? ???
Bad Luck for Paul if this is true lets hope its only a rumor is needed for the championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 18, 2008, 11:51:38 PM
looks like harps will be headin to division 2 (to be honest they dont deserve to stay up). beat at home by 3 points to dromintee.

Poor side without their county panelists.

Its not until you see the contribution a few county men make to your own team that you realise every year teams are in the same position as ourselves, fighting relegation because they have been minus the backbone of their team for at least 50-60% of the season. There is bound to be an argument for a bottom 4 play-off in Division 1.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 19, 2008, 12:24:33 AM

I'd agree with you there on the playoffs. teams who are punished for having county players should be given at least a sudden death chance of salvation with a full hand. Outside of maghery (and maybe not even) mullaghbawn and cullaville are probably the two weakest teams in the top division but will escape relegaton because they have a settled side every week, playing against weakened teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 19, 2008, 12:50:56 AM
Were clubs not opposed to the play offs after they were introduced for the 2006 season? Only for them we'd have spent last season in division 3.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on July 19, 2008, 02:09:28 AM
Quote from: Rubberneck on July 18, 2008, 11:42:46 PM
wot the hell is wrong with these people who think that having a go at referees is OK ,if the refs were to give as much s**t to the managers/physio's/players as they get then the fun would really begin. Why would you want to go to a senior game at the moment when all you hear is foul abusive language from managers and players, if you were to go out for the day with your family would you want them to hear nothing only this s**t. Where has all the fun and enjoyment gone in our beautiful game. ??? ???
Bad Luck for Paul if this is true lets hope its only a rumor is needed for the championship.
crupen beat whitecross  by 7 or so  cross key :L:L:L
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on July 19, 2008, 03:09:42 AM
Mullaghbawn v Cullavile abondoned with about 15 mins to go as well, serious injury to a mullaghbawn player (Peter McDonnells bro actually) broken leg....fec when has two div 1 games in armagh been abondoned on the nite b4.... ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 19, 2008, 09:27:25 AM
Tullysaran 1.09 v 0.09 Ballyhagan...
Tight game that i feel we just edged, missed a penalty in the first half and a few easy frees..... Scored a late goal wen the sides were all level to snatch the points!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 19, 2008, 10:43:54 AM
QuoteBut why in the hell could Paudie Hughes not have reacted the same way any referee with any ounce of common sense would have and sent the physio off the pitch and reported him for verbal abuse? Absolutely no need to call an entire match off.

Normally I'd agree with you and perhaps if it was another club Paudie (or another ref) would send yer man off and put it down to heat of the moment stuff but considering recent events surrounding your club, which I'm sure Paudie is fully aware of, I don't think anyone can blame him for taking the threat seriously and not wanting  to continue!

I don't make a habit of standing up for referees but no one can blame a referee for not continuing with a game he's been threatened at, anyone who does is just an idiot. 


and btw
Quote
Was he actually threatened or was it just the same verbals you hear at every match up and down the country?
I'm sure Paudie has heard plenty of abuse while refereeing and I don't remember him ever abandoning a match before so I think it's probably safe to assume it was a threat
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 19, 2008, 11:11:24 AM
Killeavey beat the clans in Davitt Park by 4pts. Clans were winning 0-09 to 0-04 at half time and looked in control but Killeavey came out in the second half and tore the clans to shreds. Looked like our lads were still in holiday mode having been off for the last 2 weeks but take nothing away from Killeavey they fully deserved their win and if ever a team showed fight and the will to win it was Killeavey in the 2nd half last night.

I know both teams were minus a few players but Killeavey really impressed me and are def a better team than their league position shows and i would be shocked :o if they are relegated.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 19, 2008, 11:29:14 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 19, 2008, 10:43:54 AM
QuoteBut why in the hell could Paudie Hughes not have reacted the same way any referee with any ounce of common sense would have and sent the physio off the pitch and reported him for verbal abuse? Absolutely no need to call an entire match off.

Normally I'd agree with you and perhaps if it was another club Paudie (or another ref) would send yer man off and put it down to heat of the moment stuff but considering recent events surrounding your club, which I'm sure Paudie is fully aware of, I don't think anyone can blame him for taking the threat seriously and not wanting  to continue!

I don't make a habit of standing up for referees but no one can blame a referee for not continuing with a game he's been threatened at, anyone who does is just an idiot. 


and btw
Quote
Was he actually threatened or was it just the same verbals you hear at every match up and down the country?
I'm sure Paudie has heard plenty of abuse while refereeing and I don't remember him ever abandoning a match before so I think it's probably safe to assume it was a threat

I couldn't exactly tell you what was said as we were in the changing rooms at the time.  I think the incident happened on the field when both teams were in the changing rooms.  the 1st we knew of it was when there was shouting outside the changing rooms and Paudi was saying the match was off.  Both sets of managers were trying to diffuse the situation, which went on for just over ten minutes, but the decision had already been made by that stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on July 19, 2008, 12:49:53 PM
Quote from: Rubberneck on July 18, 2008, 11:42:46 PM
wot the hell is wrong with these people who think that having a go at referees is OK ,if the refs were to give as much s**t to the managers/physio's/players as they get then the fun would really begin. Why would you want to go to a senior game at the moment when all you hear is foul abusive language from managers and players, if you were to go out for the day with your family would you want them to hear nothing only this s**t. Where has all the fun and enjoyment gone in our beautiful game. ??? ???
Bad Luck for Paul if this is true lets hope its only a rumor is needed for the championship.

Would agree with you there Rubberneck if the man in question wasnt such an egotistical self obsessed p***k who has to send a player off or dictate to players that he is the man in charge!  Absolute shithead of the highest degree who thinks he has a devine right to preach to everyone within earshot!  Needs to be brought down a peg or two by the county board or beyond!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on July 19, 2008, 01:42:59 PM
With all the bitchin and moaning of refs throughout the league, how come no one on here takes the initiative of training to become a ref?

If it is such dire straights (ref)  I am sure at least two guys can step up to do this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on July 19, 2008, 01:48:36 PM
same shite from cullyhanna again sure its ony 2weeks ago tat steven casey tired 2 head butt donal murtagh at the cross cullyhanna match then casey told steven kernan tat only he had a final in 2weeks time he'd break his  2 legs...some shite from a manager???? same old same old
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 19, 2008, 04:02:17 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on July 18, 2008, 11:51:38 PM
looks like harps will be headin to division 2 (to be honest they dont deserve to stay up). beat at home by 3 points to dromintee.

Poor side without their county panelists.

Its not until you see the contribution a few county men make to your own team that you realise every year teams are in the same position as ourselves, fighting relegation because they have been minus the backbone of their team for at least 50-60% of the season. There is bound to be an argument for a bottom 4 play-off in Division 1.
Unfortunately for Harps we have played very well with a severely understrength team this past 2 weeks and got nothing for it.  And it's not solely a case of missing County men,there were 8 or 9 first teamers missing last week and 7 last night, how is any team supposed to deal with that?  We should refuse to play any more games until our County men are available.

The Cullyhanna/ Ogs situation is obviously not as bad as I was lead to believe it was last night.  If the Co Board do back the Ref and go to town on  St Pats (and they will) they are bound to be looking at points being docked or relegation if deemed serious enough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on July 19, 2008, 05:21:05 PM
if paudie was the ref in croke park and that happened would he walk off the pitch and send 70000 home.NO IT WOULD NOT HAPPEN.he was not even meant to be the ref last night in armagh i think he is on a power trip and someone needs to take him down off it very soon and what ever way that needs to be done well fair be it cause the wankers on the county board are just as bad.
  1 question i would like to ask.why was a crossmaglen man in charge off st pats when they are play cross in the c ship Friday night.when paudie was over at the killeavy sevens he was stopped from doing any off the knock out games cause he was that bad now that says something when he was not allowed to take part in the knock out games and this is the ass hole that cost down a minor all ireland in croke park and then bragged about it that night in the carrickdale when full off the free beer he got in Dublin.if you can not stand up for your self and ask paudie a question what hope have you if i answer him back every game in armagh is all about the ref and not about the football why is that.no other county has a problem like paudie
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 19, 2008, 05:45:44 PM
Quotesomeone needs to take him down off it very soon and what ever way that needs to be done well fair be it
What's that suppose to mean?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 19, 2008, 08:51:22 PM
By the sounds of it he should have sent the physio off. Too abandon a game with thye two teams in the changing room is unbelivable.

Benny, not being cheeky but any chance of a report, missed the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 19, 2008, 10:31:24 PM
Can a physio be sent off?If so what happens if someone on that team gets a serious injury??? Then if a ref sends a physio off and a serious injury is incurred then the ref would be responsible. Perhaps this is why the game was abandoned for fear of another injury????

I wish that clown would have abandoned our game last night because at one stage it was like rugby. something will have to be done about this thrid man tackling. We would be a flowing football side but last night killeavy totally shut us down with persistent fouling the whole game. I don't think the ref booked three players. I don't know who the ref was either that was the first time we have got him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 20, 2008, 12:05:50 AM
QuoteCan a physio be sent off?If so what happens if someone on that team gets a serious injury??? Then if a ref sends a physio off and a serious injury is incurred then the ref would be responsible.

Do teams have to have a physio though Win? Not sure evry club would, particularly down the divisions. If something serious happened, I'm sure the medical people from the Ogs would have helped out. Don't really think there is a logical explanation to this one. It was poor behaviour from our physio obviously but Paudie's lost the run of himself entirely.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rubberneck on July 20, 2008, 11:40:02 PM
If you were at a game and the ref sent off the physio and a serious incident happened, the physio couldn't enter the field to help  his own player would you as a ref feel happy to continue this game. i think this would pose serious health and safety issues and with that in mind i would have to agree RELUCTANTLY with Paudie on this count.

Lucky today to get the chance at the Ulster again. Peter made bad mistake using subs when the boys were leading upset to whole continuity of the team, played rite into Fermanagh's hands, why bring on McConville ??? bad move have we not got younger fresher legs on the bench not carring injuries that might have improved the game not weakened it, taking O'Rourke off  :o when he was playing well and then putting him on again when all was turning sour all too late didn't workout  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on July 21, 2008, 12:02:59 AM
8 pts up of course Mc Donnell would have felt they would push on and win.
Kernans time was up. He didnt get himself into the game as he had done previously.
I only hope he put Mc Conville on as he was 100% fit  and had been training flat out and not for any notion of sentiment to have him playing in another winning Ulster final side.

Marty O Rou, seemd to take a heavy enough knock, and can only think it was for this reason that he was replaced, cos when he left the team looked flat!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rubberneck on July 21, 2008, 12:37:22 AM
Championship games for this sunday coming will have to be moved now cuz of the replay, chance's are they'll be this friday or sat that'll play havock with the leagues too
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 21, 2008, 12:51:58 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 19, 2008, 08:51:22 PM
By the sounds of it he should have sent the physio off. Too abandon a game with thye two teams in the changing room is unbelivable.

Benny, not being cheeky but any chance of a report, missed the game.
Corn, you may wait for Rufus's report.  I thought the Fella Peadar in MF was excellent for Dromintee, what is the story with Vincey Martin - only fit for the last 15?  A few years ago while an U21 county player I thought he was destined for very big things.  Yer man Ronan(dont know his surname) was good until going off injured.  COR's goal was the difference, knocked the stuffing out of us. 

The league table never lies, but if we got a full team out for the championship (with Peadar Toal, Jungle McKee, Simon Lennon, Liam McAuley-all injured at the minute) we should fear nobody - Cross probably a step too far but.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 21, 2008, 02:59:23 AM

topical enough - two men straight red carded in the donegal roscommon game today. everyone mystified as noone saw anything, including players apparently. referee admitted afterwards that he saw neither but that he acted on the instruction of his linesman in both cases. you guessed it.... step forward paudie hughes!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 21, 2008, 10:20:02 AM
Anyone got full club results for the weekend, and updated tables
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 21, 2008, 01:00:19 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 21, 2008, 12:51:58 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 19, 2008, 08:51:22 PM
By the sounds of it he should have sent the physio off. Too abandon a game with thye two teams in the changing room is unbelivable.

Benny, not being cheeky but any chance of a report, missed the game.
Corn, you may wait for Rufus's report.  I thought the Fella Peadar in MF was excellent for Dromintee, what is the story with Vincey Martin - only fit for the last 15?  A few years ago while an U21 county player I thought he was destined for very big things.  Yer man Ronan(dont know his surname) was good until going off injured.  COR's goal was the difference, knocked the stuffing out of us. 

The league table never lies, but if we got a full team out for the championship (with Peadar Toal, Jungle McKee, Simon Lennon, Liam McAuley-all injured at the minute) we should fear nobody - Cross probably a step too far but.

I really can't work out who Peader is Benny, wasn't a boy called Wavin by any chance?  Vincey had flu' and probably shouldn't have played at all, I heard he done well though. Ronan is Ronan McCoy and he is playing well this year. Secod time in two yeears COR has saved us at Abbey Park.

On paper, Harps have probably the second best team in Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on July 21, 2008, 02:10:31 PM
O'Hare corn???

If it is a 16/17 year old lad who is showing great signs of becoming an outrstanding player for the future any time i seen him play at underage/U21 level in recent years, cant believe though he's made it to seniors ias that would have been his senior debut Friday night. From all accounts he'd a great game as did another minor player F Murphy at wing half back
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 21, 2008, 02:24:04 PM

Yeah Paedar O'Hare Corn. still minor next year and was making his senior debut at midfield friday night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on July 21, 2008, 02:43:39 PM
I would like to see how a full strength harps team (something along the lines below) would do if Armagh were out in first round of Championship with no back-door i.e. May. A whole season together. Obviously this is fantasy stuff as injuries and suspensions or county duty will always happen, but its nice to dream, rather than face the harsh reality of Division 2...

W. McSorley
M. McConville. M. Gill. L. McAuley
Chucky. Vernon. Jungle.

McKinney. Holmes.

Mini. Nippy. Peadar.
Joe. Kelly. S. Lennon (3rd midfielder)


Then you are looking at a bench consisting of Kevin Daly (possibly a starter), Paddy Grimes, Marty McCoy, G. McDonagh, Ebby Toal, Ultan Lennon, Sean Morrison (probably a starter ahead of S. Lennon), Gareth Richards.. thats only the start of the subs... of course nearly every other team in Division 1 can boast a similarly/more impressive line-up/bench with every single player available, but still its nice to dream..

Would certainly put that team as favourites in a match against any other team in the county outside of Cross, Ogs and Dromintee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on July 21, 2008, 02:44:29 PM
Sorry just realised, I thought I was in the Harps thread, before someone tells me off.. :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 21, 2008, 03:30:34 PM
Yeah just found out it was Peader, 16 years old I believe? Was very good for the U21 this year, but some rise. Fair play
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 21, 2008, 05:16:53 PM
Lads ffs catch a grip . I have never witnessed arrogance like it. We are talking about a team here that is in a strong position only to be relegated and nothing else. see this shite talk about "on paper" it means absolutely nothing. How can you say that on paper they are the second best team in armagh??? They are no where near it, if they meet dromintee in the championship their balls would shrink again and they would be beaten. They would also be beaten well by the ogs. There is a strong possibility that Mullagbawn,cullaville and the clans could beat the harps in a championship game and these results would certainly be no upset. They have won nothing in years (and not just the years the cross have dominated ) and yet they come on here as if they are the second best team in the county. A reality check has to be called for and i am champing at the bit for the next time the word arrogance is mentioned.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on July 21, 2008, 05:30:29 PM
Winsam I would like to point out the fact that I said reality is Division 2 and that I was dreaming when naming that team. I wouldn't call it arrogant, I even listed our full strength team behind Cross Ogs and Dromintee, so I havent said anything about us being the 2nd best team, if anything it was Corn a dromintee man! I think we would have the ability to beat Ogs and Dromintee but by no means could we be considered favourites, and simply said that against any other team in the county, the full team that i named would be favourites, i didnt even say they would beat them! e.g. In a championship match, I would call that Harps team favourites against Clans, im not saying they would beat them. I don't think there was anything arrogant about that post, I even stressed the fact that it was dreamland.

You said we havent won anything in years, years more than any club.. only 4 clubs have won the championship since we last won it.. 3 clubs have won it since Clans last won it.. hardly making great points there...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 21, 2008, 06:32:19 PM
Wind yer neck in.  Who have we got to fear apart from Cross?  Dont see what harm there is in saying we'd give anyone a game with a full team, nothing arrogant about that.  We currently find ourselves in the same position that Clans and Ogs have both been in in recent years, we are not down yet either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on July 21, 2008, 09:18:28 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 21, 2008, 05:16:53 PM
Lads ffs catch a grip . I have never witnessed arrogance like it. We are talking about a team here that is in a strong position only to be relegated and nothing else. see this shite talk about "on paper" it means absolutely nothing. How can you say that on paper they are the second best team in armagh??? They are no where near it, if they meet dromintee in the championship their balls would shrink again and they would be beaten. They would also be beaten well by the ogs. There is a strong possibility that Mullagbawn,cullaville and the clans could beat the harps in a championship game and these results would certainly be no upset. They have won nothing in years (and not just the years the cross have dominated ) and yet they come on here as if they are the second best team in the county. A reality check has to be called for and i am champing at the bit for the next time the word arrogance is mentioned.

:D

I think a reality check for yourself too horse - as has been pointed out already, Corn02 is a Dromintee man, and it was him who made the reference to Harps being the second best team on paper. So it's a Dromintee man being arrogant about the Harps?   :D

Quote from: winsamsoon on July 21, 2008, 05:16:53 PM
i am champing at the bit for the next time the word arrogance is mentioned.

Save the champing - it's likely that the word will be stupidity, not arrogance!

Have a nice day!  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on July 21, 2008, 09:31:47 PM
i see that fool paudie hughes is up to his old tricks again getting 2 men sent off in the roscommon and dun gal game.the ref said he seen nothing and the players seen nothing but he had to go on paudie hughes word who was doing lines man.how long are the GAA and the armagh county board going to sit back and let this p***k make a mess off games.that is 2 games he has messed up within  a week the ogs and st pats game Friday night which he walked off the Field for almost nothing.he is on a power trip and will listen to know one only him self lets get rid off him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 21, 2008, 11:16:39 PM
Ok then you come on saying that you are not arrogant yet bar one of you harps guys you still cannot admit that you are no where the second best team in the county. I realise that it was corn that made the original statement but you guys didn't ever once try and make a case against it. If he had said that about my club and we were in the position the harps are in then i would have came out and said, hold on there our fella but at the moment we could not realistically be considered the second best team in the county. I don't see how you would think you would be favourites to beat the clans either. What do you base this on??It is certainly nothing that has happened this year. Considering the championship is this year then i think the most recent outings are relevant. I would hold my hands up and say that the clans at the moment are miles away from breaking any delf but we have 7 hard weeks ahead and this should bring us on drastically.
         I don't think anyone is under any illusions, Cross are the best by a mile the rest are all on a par when it comes to championship, there are no easy games. To make such a sweeping statement (corn) that the harps are second best on paper is ludicrous especially when they're record over the past 15 years has been worse than so many other clubs. I would say if you started a poll asking who has been the second best team over the last 15 years??? the harps would'nt even be in the top 3 never mindsecond. It would probably read Cross (top) Dromintee (2nd) Pearse Ogs (3rd) and the rest would be competing for the scraps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 22, 2008, 08:35:35 AM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 21 JULY 2008


Friday 18 July

ACL – Division One
Crossmaglen 2-13; Maghery 2-9
Harps 0-8; Dromintee 1-8
Clan na Gael 1-11; Killeavey 2-10
Culloville v Mullaghbawn (Abandoned)
Pearse Og v St Patrick's (Abandoned)

ACL – Division Two
Wolfe Tone v Tir na nÓg (Off)
Keady 1-9; Sarsfields 4-8
Carrickcruppen 2-10; Whitecross 1-5
Granemore 0-6; St Michael's 0-4
Silverbridge 1-11; An Port Mor 0-8
Ballymacnab v Clann Eireann (Off)

ACL – Division Three
Madden v Collegeland
Tullysaran 1-8; Ballyhegan 0-8
Lissummon 0-15; St Paul's 1-10
Crossmaglen II v Belleek (Off)
St Peter's v Clonmore (Off)
Grange v Annaghmore (Off)

ACL – Division Four
Derrynoose 2-9; Eire Og 1-7
Clady 0-8; Forkhill 1-9
Mullaghbrack 1-6; Middletown 4-9
Corrinshego 0-11; O'Hanlon's 1-9
Shane O'Neill's 2-22; Phelim Brady's 0-4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 22, 2008, 08:38:05 AM
Any updated tables Hank?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 22, 2008, 08:41:11 AM
not yet.... but heres the fixtures

ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SATURDAY 26 JULY 2008


Wednesday 23 July

ACL – Division One (7.30)
Dromintee v St Patrick's (Stephen Murray)

ACL – Division Four (7.30)
Mullaghbrack v Dorsey Emmett's (Joe Murtagh)


Thursday 24 July

Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round (7.30)
Culloville v Lissummon (Patrick Duffy) at Carrickcruppen


Friday 25 July

ACL – Division One (7.30)
Killeavey v Pearse Og (Barney Henry)

ACL – Division Three (7.30)
St Peter's v Crossmaglen II (Tony O'Hare)

ACL – Division Four (7.30)
Eire Og v Clady (Ger Devlin)
Forkhill v Derrynoose (Damian McConville)
Phelim Brady's v Corrinshego (Kevin Gallogly)


Saturday 26 July

Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round (7.30)
An Port Mor v Sarsfields (Oliver Hearty) at Ballyhegan
Silverbridge v St Paul's (Jim Slevin) at Abbey Park
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 22, 2008, 09:10:54 AM
Jesus you make one comment....

Win I do think that on paper (paper and playing is a lot different) the Harps are very strong. You look at players like Vernon, Swift, Toal and Quigley and you can see why they could be dangerous. Maybe I was jumping the gun a bit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 22, 2008, 09:54:44 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 22, 2008, 09:10:54 AM
Jesus you make one comment....

Win I do think that on paper (paper and playing is a lot different) the Harps are very strong. You look at players like Vernon, Swift, Toal and Quigley and you can see why they could be dangerous. Maybe I was jumping the gun a bit.

Ive seen Vernon and to be honest he hasnt exactly been very impressive, i think he is very overated, i was hearing from boys at the start of the year about this great lad from the Harps and what he was going to do, but lets be honest lads, hes not exactly up to it, maybe next week this will change i hope, thats if he gets his place

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 22, 2008, 10:02:36 AM
Do the Harps have the worst nicknames in Armagh?? Possibly Ulster??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on July 22, 2008, 10:35:33 AM
Winsam, I like how your timespan goes back 15 years in your assessment of the 2nd best team in Armagh... hold on, 2008 - 15 years = 1993, the year Clans won the first of two championships in a row...well blow me, isnt that a happy coincidence!

Of course if you were to take in, say, the last 20 years, we would find that Harps, Clans and Dromintee have all appeared in 4 Championship finals, however the fact that both Harps and Clans have won 2 of them would surely set them apart from Dromintee, no?

Now not even necessarily final success, as Dromintee have been beaten by the best team in Ulster/Ireland on those occassions, but is getting beat in the County final considered a success? I mean, does it depend on the luck of the draw? The Pearse Ogs team that reached last years county final had a bye in the 1st round, Ballymacnab in their first year in Senior in the Q-final and a Maghery team now sitting bottom of the league in the Semi-final. That Ogs team was nowhere near as good as the winners of 88 or 92, even the runners-up of 99 and 00.. surely if that is how you are going to measure success, everyone is the same until they beat Cross.

Harps were beaten by Cross in the 1st round of last years Championship by 7 points having hit 17 wides during the game. I think it is fair to say that Harps won midfield hands down that day, but you are never going to do anything against the All-Ireland champions after missing 17 attempts at a point. Harps were very unlucky to have drawn Cross in the 1st round, as I believe they would have beaten both Ballymacnab and Maghery had they drawn them on the way to a final, as would Dromintee, and indeed Clans.

So in summary, I think your statement that Harps championship form over the last 15 years (convenient) is worse than SO MANY other teams is a bit sweeping, don't you?





PS Our Nial Loney... example? I will admit, there are a few hairy ones!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 22, 2008, 10:50:08 AM
Chucky, Nippy, Mini and my favourite JUNGLE!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on July 22, 2008, 11:13:22 AM
Well there are a lot of Chuckies in this land, id say we are hardly the only one with a Chucky, as for Nippy as far as I know most people called Swift get Nippy or Nipper, Mini is Collie Holmes wee brother so Mini Holmes...


As for Jungle, I haven't a bloody clue where the hell that came from! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 22, 2008, 11:49:36 AM
I just always get a good laugh seeing when yous boys pick out your fifteens! I would say there wud be some story behind jungle!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on July 22, 2008, 12:36:53 PM
nashville to be honest the harps are nowhere near one of the top teams in the county. what have they done in the championship and league to warrant this? catch a grip
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on July 22, 2008, 12:48:14 PM
Are you kidding me? Did anyone actually read my post? I think Dreamland was mentioned twice, the word fantasy once, and reality is division 2...i dont think im the one who needs to catch a grip, start reading the post before you reply.

In reality, the team Harps will probably field for their next league game will be something like

McSorley
McConville. Gill. Daly.
Chucky. Grimes. McArdle
McKinney. Smackers.
Harpo. Quigley. Ebby.
Morrisson. Kelly. McDonagh.

Missing 7/8 first team starters, not to mention the many many many more who have left the Harps since underage success e.g. I was talking to Martin McCoy and Kevin Kelly in the club after a game around 4 weeks ago, they told me that of the 30-something members of the County Armagh winning Feile Side in 2001 who travelled down south, they are the only 2 still playing. Says something about the state of affairs that 30 odd lads from just one age group can drop away. In dreamland, the Harps would certainly be the 2nd best team competing to be the best. Reality sucks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 22, 2008, 01:16:08 PM
Quote from: nashville on July 22, 2008, 11:13:22 AM
Well there are a lot of Chuckies in this land, id say we are hardly the only one with a Chucky, as for Nippy as far as I know most people called Swift get Nippy or Nipper, Mini is Collie Holmes wee brother so Mini Holmes...


As for Jungle, I haven't a bloody clue where the hell that came from! :D

and smackers and harpo were left from that list!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 22, 2008, 01:23:16 PM
Quote from: nashville on July 22, 2008, 12:48:14 PM

Missing 7/8 first team starters, not to mention the many many many more who have left the Harps since underage success e.g. I was talking to Martin McCoy and Kevin Kelly in the club after a game around 4 weeks ago, they told me that of the 30-something members of the County Armagh winning Feile Side in 2001 who travelled down south, they are the only 2 still playing. Says something about the state of affairs that 30 odd lads from just one age group can drop away. In dreamland, the Harps would certainly be the 2nd best team competing to be the best. Reality sucks.

That is dreadful Nahsville.

Of 3 Cross teams that went to the Feile Finals over the last 20 years or so the breakdown that played/play is probably something like this

1988 - 12 of us were on the senior squad for minimum 10 years, 6 are still playing.

1996 - 12 made the senior squad and 8-9 are still playing

2001 I think - about 7 of them have graduated to the senior squad.

So basically you have the core of the Cross squad is made up of those 3 teams with the likes of John D, added in.  If Harps cannot do something about this then there is only one road they will go.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on July 22, 2008, 02:24:28 PM
Tell me about it BC1, and I am by no means claiming we are the only team this happens to as I am sure the Ogs and to a lesser extent rural teams are effected by young lads leaving, but Harps were Feile champions 2000 and 2001, they were young lads who were County Champions, and for 30 to have quit football by their first year senior i.e. 2006, there isnt a hope in hell of the Harps ever doing anything. I remember that they defeated Cross in the final, and I would assume that team would have consisted of David McKenna, Hanratty, Paul Kernan, McKeown, Carragher and a few more of the lads who are now All-Ireland champions!

I feel like I have to cover my back for fear of getting rounded on by other club followers so I will say that whilst I am well aware that these boys may not have progressed as much as Kernan or McKenna etc, there is no chance at all that they can when they quit. 30 players from ONE age group. That is only the tip of the Iceberg, i think a few years later we had 7 (possibly 8) county minors, of them only Vernon and Sean Morrisson play. Losing 5 players of that standard who would have been senior the next year highlights the problem.

I know every team has these problems e.g. Portadown or Lurgan lose boys to soccer or drink, but these teams didn't have underage squads winning County Feiles and 2 County Minors in a row, 2 Ulster Minor final appearances in a row, winning the 2nd one. Sad sad state of affairs. The fact that Cross can hang onto their players as BC1 highlighted is perhaps an insight into why they are so far ahead of everyone else. If McKenna, Paul Kernan, Johnny Hanratty, Kyle Carragher, Paul McKeown quit before senior the effect would be felt, certainly not to the extent the Harps have, but still somewhat felt.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 22, 2008, 02:32:15 PM
It was easier to keep the likes of McKenna and the Kernans interested as they were coming onto a successful team so we were lucky there.  I think the bigger factor is that the Feile team I played on 20 years ago still has 6 players on the squad(actually 7) with 5 of them guaranteed starters and one a regular starter and the other a regular sub.  We brought through 12-13 players from the one squad who stuck through it when there was no success, like the Harps face now.  It is easier for Cross now than any other time in the last 15 years in my view to keep success going.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on July 22, 2008, 02:55:56 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 22, 2008, 10:50:08 AM
Chucky, Nippy, Mini and my favourite JUNGLE!!!

you forgot HARPO

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 22, 2008, 05:26:48 PM
Quote from: nashville on July 22, 2008, 02:24:28 PM
Tell me about it BC1, and I am by no means claiming we are the only team this happens to as I am sure the Ogs and to a lesser extent rural teams are effected by young lads leaving, but Harps were Feile champions 2000 and 2001, they were young lads who were County Champions, and for 30 to have quit football by their first year senior i.e. 2006, there isnt a hope in hell of the Harps ever doing anything. I remember that they defeated Cross in the final, and I would assume that team would have consisted of David McKenna, Hanratty, Paul Kernan, McKeown, Carragher and a few more of the lads who are now All-Ireland champions!

I feel like I have to cover my back for fear of getting rounded on by other club followers so I will say that whilst I am well aware that these boys may not have progressed as much as Kernan or McKenna etc, there is no chance at all that they can when they quit. 30 players from ONE age group. That is only the tip of the Iceberg, i think a few years later we had 7 (possibly 8) county minors, of them only Vernon and Sean Morrisson play. Losing 5 players of that standard who would have been senior the next year highlights the problem.

I know every team has these problems e.g. Portadown or Lurgan lose boys to soccer or drink, but these teams didn't have underage squads winning County Feiles and 2 County Minors in a row, 2 Ulster Minor final appearances in a row, winning the 2nd one. Sad sad state of affairs. The fact that Cross can hang onto their players as BC1 highlighted is perhaps an insight into why they are so far ahead of everyone else. If McKenna, Paul Kernan, Johnny Hanratty, Kyle Carragher, Paul McKeown quit before senior the effect would be felt, certainly not to the extent the Harps have, but still somewhat felt.

Feck me thats unbelieveable. To loose that amount of players is shocking (we are in the same boat, whether the quality was as good as some of them players mentioned is another matter), most of the south Armagh clubs don't realise what the townies have to put up with regarding holding onto players (i know we have discussed this before on the board) but it's a shame and it's only getting worse. there is nothing the clubs can do about it as they can get the best coaching at under-age level and even win a few under-age trophey's but when they hit the age for riding and drinking they say "Adios Senior"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on July 22, 2008, 06:43:19 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 22, 2008, 01:23:16 PM
Quote from: nashville on July 22, 2008, 12:48:14 PM

Missing 7/8 first team starters, not to mention the many many many more who have left the Harps since underage success e.g. I was talking to Martin McCoy and Kevin Kelly in the club after a game around 4 weeks ago, they told me that of the 30-something members of the County Armagh winning Feile Side in 2001 who travelled down south, they are the only 2 still playing. Says something about the state of affairs that 30 odd lads from just one age group can drop away. In dreamland, the Harps would certainly be the 2nd best team competing to be the best. Reality sucks.

That is dreadful Nahsville.

Of 3 Cross teams that went to the Feile Finals over the last 20 years or so the breakdown that played/play is probably something like this

1988 - 12 of us were on the senior squad for minimum 10 years, 6 are still playing.

1996 - 12 made the senior squad and 8-9 are still playing

2001 I think - about 7 of them have graduated to the senior squad.

So basically you have the core of the Cross squad is made up of those 3 teams with the likes of John D, added in.  If Harps cannot do something about this then there is only one road they will go.

To be fair BC, you and I have had this conversation before and I have been consistently trying to explain that this is a modern urban phenomenon. I am not going to get into exact stats here, but the Ogs and the Harps have underage success to match that of Cross, no doubt about it. Around the late eighties / early nineties we won a number of County Feile titles.

I recall, after running Cross to four points in the 2003 County semi-final, with a very young team, feeling elated with the manner of the perfromance and confidently predicting a Senior Title in five years. Half of that team is gone and with it dreams turned to dust. This time last year I named a Harps fifteen who had played County football (minor / Senior), were still of footballing age and who were not playing football at all - the reality of our situation. Meanwhile, a matter of weeks ago I go up to Cross and watch a young team hammer our Seniors - a young team made up of promising young players who are beating down the door (and probably each other in training) to get onto the Senior Team, i.e. success breeding success.

That is the reason why I believe Cross could win twenty titles in a row.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on July 22, 2008, 08:21:07 PM
To be fair BC, you and I have had this conversation before and I have been consistently trying to explain that this is a modern urban phenomenon. I am not going to get into exact stats here, but the Ogs and the Harps have underage success to match that of Cross, no doubt about it. Around the late eighties / early nineties we won a number of County Feile titles.

I recall, after running Cross to four points in the 2003 County semi-final, with a very young team, feeling elated with the manner of the perfromance and confidently predicting a Senior Title in five years. Half of that team is gone and with it dreams turned to dust. This time last year I named a Harps fifteen who had played County football (minor / Senior), were still of footballing age and who were not playing football at all - the reality of our situation. Meanwhile, a matter of weeks ago I go up to Cross and watch a young team hammer our Seniors - a young team made up of promising young players who are beating down the door (and probably each other in training) to get onto the Senior Team, i.e. success breeding success.

That is the reason why I believe Cross could win twenty titles in a row.

COMMITMENT

Need I say more Rufus. Cross don't create "prima donnas", you are part of a great club, wear your colours with pride and respect.
Over the past number of years Harps seniors have had good managers, but I firmly believe it wouldn't matter if Micko himself took them. There are a handfull of players who are committed and I feel for them, but unfortunately not enough. If the Harps go down and I think they would need a miracle at this stage, they will find it very difficult to get back. Hope I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 22, 2008, 10:31:40 PM
Lads i sympathise with you in so many ways. Losing players to anything is terrible and it is one of the things that really frustrates me within the GAA. I know it ain't the fault of the GAA but i think they should do more to raise the profile of the sport in these particular difficult areas. There is nothing worse than watching a lad come through the under age ranks progressing year by year and then suddenly wen he gets 18 if you are lucky, that is the last you see of him. This same guy has all the ability in the world and although he doesn't realise it he carries the entire future, at least in terms of any success of your club on his shoulders. Some of the lads on this board would know exactly what i am geting at. But you know what is the worst feeling in the world. Years later when they have choose the path of drink ahead of Gaelic we meet these guys in the bar and all they can talk about is the years when they played football and at the end of it they wished they had never stopped. But for some reason they go awol in between and it costs so many clubs of a major chance of success. Bc Is 100% corect when he says Cross have easily kept younger players coming through because of the success. Others clubs are not having that success and it is strangling them, hence the situation outlined by one of the harps lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 23, 2008, 09:35:33 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on July 22, 2008, 06:43:19 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 22, 2008, 01:23:16 PM
Quote from: nashville on July 22, 2008, 12:48:14 PM

Missing 7/8 first team starters, not to mention the many many many more who have left the Harps since underage success e.g. I was talking to Martin McCoy and Kevin Kelly in the club after a game around 4 weeks ago, they told me that of the 30-something members of the County Armagh winning Feile Side in 2001 who travelled down south, they are the only 2 still playing. Says something about the state of affairs that 30 odd lads from just one age group can drop away. In dreamland, the Harps would certainly be the 2nd best team competing to be the best. Reality sucks.

That is dreadful Nahsville.

Of 3 Cross teams that went to the Feile Finals over the last 20 years or so the breakdown that played/play is probably something like this

1988 - 12 of us were on the senior squad for minimum 10 years, 6 are still playing.

1996 - 12 made the senior squad and 8-9 are still playing

2001 I think - about 7 of them have graduated to the senior squad.

So basically you have the core of the Cross squad is made up of those 3 teams with the likes of John D, added in.  If Harps cannot do something about this then there is only one road they will go.

To be fair BC, you and I have had this conversation before and I have been consistently trying to explain that this is a modern urban phenomenon. I am not going to get into exact stats here, but the Ogs and the Harps have underage success to match that of Cross, no doubt about it. Around the late eighties / early nineties we won a number of County Feile titles.

I recall, after running Cross to four points in the 2003 County semi-final, with a very young team, feeling elated with the manner of the perfromance and confidently predicting a Senior Title in five years. Half of that team is gone and with it dreams turned to dust. This time last year I named a Harps fifteen who had played County football (minor / Senior), were still of footballing age and who were not playing football at all - the reality of our situation. Meanwhile, a matter of weeks ago I go up to Cross and watch a young team hammer our Seniors - a young team made up of promising young players who are beating down the door (and probably each other in training) to get onto the Senior Team, i.e. success breeding success.

That is the reason why I believe Cross could win twenty titles in a row.

I agree Rufus that urban clubs can face difficulties that county clubs don't.  However, the minset of the individuals involved is everything.  Down here in Cork the bedrock of the GAA is urban.  You have Nemo who produce the majority of Cork titles from a few housing estates in the south city area.  Douglas are historically their great rivals(they are next door to each other and were originally one club I believe until a split in the 50-60's, and they wear the same coloured jersies) who are one of the up and coming clubs, Na Piarsaigh who have the O Hailpins and Gardiner and have the best underage structure I have ever heard of in a club, Blackrock, Sarsfields and St Finnbarrs are all strong clubs. The Glen (who the great Christy Ring palyed for and who have 3-4 Cork hurling panellists) and Erins Own(Brian Corcoran's team) are both urban teams. Outside of the west cork football teams, (Castlehaven, Clonakilty) and Newtownshandrum and Cloyne in the hurling the main teams are all urban teams.  Midleton for instance won the AI hurling in the early 90's I think and the town is about the size of Lurgan.

Where I am going with this is that there are actually more pulls on players in Cork than the north.  There is not the same "cultural" divide with rugby down here and many players play both, soccer is huge with 2 LOI teams in Cork City and Cobh Ramblers, bastketball has a large presence with UCC Demons having a very successful set up and athletics feed off the success of Dervel O'Rourke and Sonia O'Sullivan.  Coupled with the place being a major tourist area and somewhere where people really know how to enjoy themselves, there are many things to distract.  Yet, they continually churn out successful sporting teams across the board.  Obviously there is a larger population but for instance Newtownshandrum has a similar population to Cross.  Nemo would remind me very much of the Harps in that they take the majority of their players at under age levels from 4-5 housing estatess the size of Drumbreda.

There is a culture in Armagh city, and I have had a nember of years of experience of this having tricked around Drumbreda myself for a few years, where the party is all there is.  That is not a unique thing to Armagh but is more prevalent in my experience.  When we made the breakthrough it was like that and unfortunately I think it will be a bigger factor than anything else in stopping the Harps make the step up.  I don't know about 20 in a row, as that would be arrogant, but it is not impossible.  The one thing that always motivates the Cross players is history, and the making of new history ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 23, 2008, 09:38:59 AM
Anyone got any updated League tables
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 23, 2008, 01:37:44 PM
Dromintee play Cullyhanna tonight in another vital league match. If we win I think we will be safe. I believe if Sunday was not a draw the county boys were available. Would have been a massive boost, as would McKeever for Cullyhanna obviously. Hard rto know what way it will go.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 23, 2008, 02:20:08 PM
If Armagh are beaten on Sunday they play the following week in the Qualifiers, if they win they play again in a fortnight, club championship looks fecked for a while I would think?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 23, 2008, 02:24:38 PM
Defientely won't happen for a while yet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 23, 2008, 05:11:24 PM
It shouldn't pose any problems for the senior championship as it ain't till september. I can't see that Armagh team being still in it in september unless there are drastic improvements.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on July 23, 2008, 07:18:26 PM
Was there not senior champ games in for mid August???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 23, 2008, 07:31:53 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on July 23, 2008, 07:18:26 PM
Was there not senior champ games in for mid August???

yes 15th/16th/17th august were the provisional dates. its the minor championship thats in september.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 23, 2008, 08:23:45 PM
fair speak lads, we have got a bye that is why we are playing in september. So there probably will be a delay then. The club championship will be another october fest (joke)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on July 23, 2008, 10:05:15 PM
All County U21 Championship Madden vs Carrickcruppen has been fixed for Sunday 7th September.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 24, 2008, 08:51:29 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 23, 2008, 08:23:45 PM
fair speak lads, we have got a bye that is why we are playing in september. So there probably will be a delay then. The club championship will be another october fest (joke)

Well i honestly cannot understand this, Tyrone are still in the c'ship and they have started their club c'ship. Derry who were still in the c'ship this time last week have played their 1st round matches and possibly 2nd round, So i cant understand why Armagh has to wait until the county team has wrapped up for the year, Injury Worries is not a valid reason. This idea of playing club games Sept Oct is a joke, the year is long enough, with most teams maybe starting out in November, december the previouss season, so you are talking a 9-10month season, a joke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on July 24, 2008, 09:07:26 AM
cullyhanna well beat by the drums last nite, how come dromintee were allowed to play 3 of there county players? (shannon, gareth o'niell and miceal o'rouke) are all of these outside the 30 man armagh squad?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 24, 2008, 09:10:08 AM
any word on last nites other results????

i think mullabrack beat dorsey by 5 points or so.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 24, 2008, 09:12:55 AM
Flog I didn't make but I heard they were playing, think O'Rourke stood out well.

I think it was because they are not first 15 players. McDonnell seems to give a bit of leeway like that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 24, 2008, 09:44:13 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 24, 2008, 09:12:55 AM
Flog I didn't make but I heard they were playing, think O'Rourke stood out well.

I think it was because they are not first 15 players. McDonnell seems to give a bit of leeway like that.

There is no reason why this should not be a regular thing as lads who are struggling to make the county team should be allowed to play with their clubs (maybe not every week but at least now and again)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 24, 2008, 10:05:53 AM
Totally agree.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on July 24, 2008, 10:26:50 AM
Are Culloville playing in the championship tonight in Cruppen?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mhacadoir on July 24, 2008, 10:43:05 AM
lads who is managing Clan na nGael this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Malone Aristocrat on July 24, 2008, 11:16:01 AM

There was a motion passed at the armagh convention by the clubs that the senior championship should not start until after the all ireland quarter finals. the county board's hands are tied on that score
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 24, 2008, 12:27:17 PM

Good win for Dromintee - relegation must be nearly staved off at this rate
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 24, 2008, 12:33:36 PM
Can't see us going down now. I think it was our stronges tea mof the year and we were only missing four of five Championship starters.
Missed it but I hear they all played well with MOR hitting 1-4.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on July 24, 2008, 12:34:08 PM
will someone please put up the updated tables? that would leave dromintee on 13 points now with 4 games left, harps on 10 points with 3 games left, killeavy with i think 14 points. it is still mathematically possible that any team apart from cross can go down. it will be interesting to see what happens to cullyhanna apart from the ogs getting the points which is a certainty they could be hit with a points deduction
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 24, 2008, 12:38:53 PM
Quote from: bubbles on July 24, 2008, 12:34:08 PM
will someone please put up the updated tables? that would leave dromintee on 13 points now with 4 games left, harps on 10 points with 3 games left, killeavy with i think 14 points. it is still mathematically possible that any team apart from cross can go down. it will be interesting to see what happens to cullyhanna apart from the ogs getting the points which is a certainty they could be hit with a points deduction

The only thing that will happen from that game is the Ogs will get the 2 pts, Guaranteed ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 24, 2008, 12:40:38 PM
We have Killeavy home and away and Ogs away. I would fancy us to get at least two from that, which should guarantee we stay up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on July 24, 2008, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: mhacadoir on July 24, 2008, 10:43:05 AM
lads who is managing Clan na nGael this year?


Mhacadoir

Barry O'Hagan & Dairmaid Marsden with Brian lennon and Trevor boyd on the sideline
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 24, 2008, 12:53:35 PM
Is anyone else quite intimidated by Paul McCormack on the top banner on the official Armagh site.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: open her out on July 24, 2008, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: thebandit on July 24, 2008, 10:26:50 AM
Are Culloville playing in the championship tonight in Cruppen?

yes think its at 7:30

Culloville keeper has been suspended for 4 months for the incident in last weeks game against mullaghbawn. i know a mans leg was broke but from what i hear from both cullovill an mullaghbawn people it was a challenge you would see in most games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 24, 2008, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: bubbles on July 24, 2008, 12:34:08 PM
will someone please put up the updated tables? that would leave dromintee on 13 points now with 4 games left, harps on 10 points with 3 games left, killeavy with i think 14 points. it is still mathematically possible that any team apart from cross can go down. it will be interesting to see what happens to cullyhanna apart from the ogs getting the points which is a certainty they could be hit with a points deduction

I think the tables should read like this.  I've left off the Ogs match from last week, but i think killevey moved up to 12 points after their win

Crossmaglen 14 13 2 0 28
Culloville 14 8 1 5 17
Clan na Gael 14 6 3 5 15
St Patrick's 14 7 1 6 15
Pearse Og 12 7 2 4 14
Dromintee 14 6 1 7 13
Mullaghbawn 15 5 2 8 12
Killeavey 14 6 0 8 12
Harps 15 4 2 9 10
Maghery 14 2 2 10 6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on July 24, 2008, 01:31:26 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 24, 2008, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: bubbles on July 24, 2008, 12:34:08 PM
will someone please put up the updated tables? that would leave dromintee on 13 points now with 4 games left, harps on 10 points with 3 games left, killeavy with i think 14 points. it is still mathematically possible that any team apart from cross can go down. it will be interesting to see what happens to cullyhanna apart from the ogs getting the points which is a certainty they could be hit with a points deduction

I think the tables should read like this.  I've left off the Ogs match from last week, but i think killevey moved up to 12 points after their win

Crossmaglen 14 13 2 0 28
Culloville 14 8 1 5 17
Clan na Gael 14 6 3 5 15
St Patrick's 14 7 1 6 15
Pearse Og 12 7 2 4 14
Dromintee 14 6 1 7 13
Mullaghbawn 15 5 2 8 12
Killeavey 14 6 0 8 12
Harps 15 4 2 9 10
Maghery 14 2 2 10 6



Think its Maghery and the harps going down - as the harps have played 15 games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 24, 2008, 01:51:37 PM
The ogs will definetly have a big say in who goes down or not with their remaining fixtures!! I wonder would they have any preferences!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 24, 2008, 02:20:08 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on July 24, 2008, 01:51:37 PM
The ogs will definetly have a big say in who goes down or not with their remaining fixtures!! I wonder would they have any preferences!

Of course they would. The year we got relegated they came to Lurgan one Friday night with their championship team including all county men and gave us an awful hiding then 2 days later on the sunday they played a team beside us at the bottom of the league with their B team out, there was no sign of county men that day yet 2 days before hand they had their strongest team out so of course they have a preference ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 24, 2008, 02:26:04 PM

I've said it before - you can only look in the mirror when you're relegated. strong and weak teams, good and bad refs all even themselves out over the 18 games. the only mitigating factor i can see is the non availability of county players. for that reason i'd favour a play off system to give teams a fair rattle at staying up with a full team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on July 24, 2008, 02:38:47 PM
Quote from: open her out on July 24, 2008, 01:21:32 PM
Quote from: thebandit on July 24, 2008, 10:26:50 AM
Are Culloville playing in the championship tonight in Cruppen?

yes think its at 7:30

Culloville keeper has been suspended for 4 months for the incident in last weeks game against mullaghbawn. i know a mans leg was broke but from what i hear from both cullovill an mullaghbawn people it was a challenge you would see in most games.

I was at the game, it was innocuous enough, and just unfortunate that such an injury arose from it. Word is that Tony Watters is coming oout of retirement to fill the breach!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 24, 2008, 04:03:24 PM
Quote from: Uladh on July 24, 2008, 02:26:04 PM

I've said it before - you can only look in the mirror when you're relegated. strong and weak teams, good and bad refs all even themselves out over the 18 games. the only mitigating factor i can see is the non availability of county players. for that reason i'd favour a play off system to give teams a fair rattle at staying up with a full team.

Yes you're dead right what you say, 1 game does not relegate you it's how you perform over the season. But my point is if there are 2-3 teams facing relegation on equal points and a top team decides to play their strongest team against one of the bottom teams and then 2 days later decide to field their B team against the other team around the bottom well then what are they telling you???

and yes if you're good enough you won't have to rely on other teams doing you a favour but sometimes it doesn't turn out like that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 24, 2008, 04:42:00 PM

I understand your argument ID and have heard it many times. i still believe you shouldn't be in a position to be harmed by other clubs if you're good enough.
ironically, the order that you play teams in can have a big bearing on where you find yoursef with 4 games to go.
the last 4 games could be games you'd normally win but in a position where you say need 6 out of 8 points, the handier ties get much tougher
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on July 24, 2008, 05:01:21 PM
Quote from: Uladh on July 24, 2008, 04:42:00 PM

I understand your argument ID and have heard it many times. i still believe you shouldn't be in a position to be harmed by other clubs if you're good enough.
ironically, the order that you play teams in can have a big bearing on where you find yoursef with 4 games to go.
the last 4 games could be games you'd normally win but in a position where you say need 6 out of 8 points, the handier ties get much tougher

the clans went down with 15 points that year a record Uladh -I think that speakes volumes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on July 24, 2008, 05:55:06 PM

in what way?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on July 24, 2008, 11:40:13 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on July 24, 2008, 01:31:26 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 24, 2008, 01:23:59 PM
Quote from: bubbles on July 24, 2008, 12:34:08 PM
will someone please put up the updated tables? that would leave dromintee on 13 points now with 4 games left, harps on 10 points with 3 games left, killeavy with i think 14 points. it is still mathematically possible that any team apart from cross can go down. it will be interesting to see what happens to cullyhanna apart from the ogs getting the points which is a certainty they could be hit with a points deduction

I think the tables should read like this.  I've left off the Ogs match from last week, but i think killevey moved up to 12 points after their win

Crossmaglen 14 13 2 0 28
Culloville 14 8 1 5 17
Clan na Gael 14 6 3 5 15
St Patrick's 14 7 1 6 15
Pearse Og 12 7 2 4 14
Dromintee 14 6 1 7 13
Mullaghbawn 15 5 2 8 12
Killeavey 14 6 0 8 12
Harps 15 4 2 9 10
Maghery 14 2 2 10 6



Think its Maghery and the harps going down - as the harps have played 15 games

As have Mullaghbawn gapunter.

I still though think we are up against it alright. Traditionally 16 points leaves you safe, although you have a fighting chance with 14. I'm afraid that the point we 'dropped' at Culloville back in May is going to come back to haunt us!   :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 25, 2008, 12:33:00 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 23, 2008, 09:35:33 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on July 22, 2008, 06:43:19 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 22, 2008, 01:23:16 PM
Quote from: nashville on July 22, 2008, 12:48:14 PM

Missing 7/8 first team starters, not to mention the many many many more who have left the Harps since underage success e.g. I was talking to Martin McCoy and Kevin Kelly in the club after a game around 4 weeks ago, they told me that of the 30-something members of the County Armagh winning Feile Side in 2001 who travelled down south, they are the only 2 still playing. Says something about the state of affairs that 30 odd lads from just one age group can drop away. In dreamland, the Harps would certainly be the 2nd best team competing to be the best. Reality sucks.

That is dreadful Nahsville.

Of 3 Cross teams that went to the Feile Finals over the last 20 years or so the breakdown that played/play is probably something like this

1988 - 12 of us were on the senior squad for minimum 10 years, 6 are still playing.

1996 - 12 made the senior squad and 8-9 are still playing

2001 I think - about 7 of them have graduated to the senior squad.

So basically you have the core of the Cross squad is made up of those 3 teams with the likes of John D, added in.  If Harps cannot do something about this then there is only one road they will go.

To be fair BC, you and I have had this conversation before and I have been consistently trying to explain that this is a modern urban phenomenon. I am not going to get into exact stats here, but the Ogs and the Harps have underage success to match that of Cross, no doubt about it. Around the late eighties / early nineties we won a number of County Feile titles.

I recall, after running Cross to four points in the 2003 County semi-final, with a very young team, feeling elated with the manner of the perfromance and confidently predicting a Senior Title in five years. Half of that team is gone and with it dreams turned to dust. This time last year I named a Harps fifteen who had played County football (minor / Senior), were still of footballing age and who were not playing football at all - the reality of our situation. Meanwhile, a matter of weeks ago I go up to Cross and watch a young team hammer our Seniors - a young team made up of promising young players who are beating down the door (and probably each other in training) to get onto the Senior Team, i.e. success breeding success.

That is the reason why I believe Cross could win twenty titles in a row.

I agree Rufus that urban clubs can face difficulties that county clubs don't.  However, the minset of the individuals involved is everything.  Down here in Cork the bedrock of the GAA is urban.  You have Nemo who produce the majority of Cork titles from a few housing estates in the south city area.  Douglas are historically their great rivals(they are next door to each other and were originally one club I believe until a split in the 50-60's, and they wear the same coloured jersies) who are one of the up and coming clubs, Na Piarsaigh who have the O Hailpins and Gardiner and have the best underage structure I have ever heard of in a club, Blackrock, Sarsfields and St Finnbarrs are all strong clubs. The Glen (who the great Christy Ring palyed for and who have 3-4 Cork hurling panellists) and Erins Own(Brian Corcoran's team) are both urban teams. Outside of the west cork football teams, (Castlehaven, Clonakilty) and Newtownshandrum and Cloyne in the hurling the main teams are all urban teams.  Midleton for instance won the AI hurling in the early 90's I think and the town is about the size of Lurgan.

Where I am going with this is that there are actually more pulls on players in Cork than the north.  There is not the same "cultural" divide with rugby down here and many players play both, soccer is huge with 2 LOI teams in Cork City and Cobh Ramblers, bastketball has a large presence with UCC Demons having a very successful set up and athletics feed off the success of Dervel O'Rourke and Sonia O'Sullivan.  Coupled with the place being a major tourist area and somewhere where people really know how to enjoy themselves, there are many things to distract.  Yet, they continually churn out successful sporting teams across the board.  Obviously there is a larger population but for instance Newtownshandrum has a similar population to Cross.  Nemo would remind me very much of the Harps in that they take the majority of their players at under age levels from 4-5 housing estatess the size of Drumbreda.

There is a culture in Armagh city, and I have had a nember of years of experience of this having tricked around Drumbreda myself for a few years, where the party is all there is.  That is not a unique thing to Armagh but is more prevalent in my experience.  When we made the breakthrough it was like that and unfortunately I think it will be a bigger factor than anything else in stopping the Harps make the step up.  I don't know about 20 in a row, as that would be arrogant, but it is not impossible.  The one thing that always motivates the Cross players is history, and the making of new history ;D


Gordons Gin

;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 25, 2008, 08:35:34 AM
Quote from: fcuksake on July 25, 2008, 12:33:00 AM


Gordons Gin

;) ;)

Cheeky fcuker!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 25, 2008, 09:14:05 AM
Shokcing statistic re: Harps players who no longer play.

I had a wee look at our minor photo winning teahm this morning that won division 1. Only five no longer play and one of those is in the AFL. Certainly seems to be an urban problem.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mhacadoir on July 25, 2008, 10:02:27 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on July 24, 2008, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: mhacadoir on July 24, 2008, 10:43:05 AM
lads who is managing Clan na nGael this year?


Mhacadoir

Barry O'Hagan & Dairmaid Marsden with Brian lennon and Trevor boyd on the sideline

cheers!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on July 25, 2008, 10:44:45 AM
Corn, just had a look at our Ulster Minor winning team from 2003, 16 of them no longer playing for us....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 25, 2008, 10:47:29 AM
In five years yous have lost 16 players? That is crazy.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on July 25, 2008, 11:02:41 AM
16 players from just ONE age group! And even in this case the argument of success can't be used, they won an Ulster title ffs! 16 added on to the many more from the other age groups, this isn't the Feile winning group I was talking about earlier, the Ulster winners are 2003, that group are the minor team from 2005 of which 30 have been lost. When I write this down myself it is actually astounding me!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 25, 2008, 11:09:11 AM
That is terrible nashville.  I looked at the minor winning team of 2001 and I think at least 8 are on the seniors with maybe another 6-8 playing on the seconds team/B team. 

People have blamed Cross's success for the reasons behind players not hanging around to senior but that cannot be used as an excuse for 16 players to give up.  There needs to be more inward looking approaches in clubs to see why things are the way they are.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 25, 2008, 11:25:50 AM
Similar numberin Dromintee BC.

If we had a drop out like the Haprs, we simply would not be able to function.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 25, 2008, 11:56:08 AM
Any word of the Culloville v Lissummon game last night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on July 25, 2008, 12:46:55 PM
Quote from: full back on July 25, 2008, 11:56:08 AM
Any word of the Culloville v Lissummon game last night?

full back i hear Culloville won by 8 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 25, 2008, 12:56:31 PM
Cheers gaa
Expected them to win by more tbh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 25, 2008, 12:58:42 PM
Was that intermediate?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 25, 2008, 01:14:23 PM
yip i think that was the first championship match of the year!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on July 25, 2008, 05:48:58 PM
Culloville only won by 4 I think. Lissummon were ahead with 15 minutes to go!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 25, 2008, 09:57:51 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 25, 2008, 08:35:34 AM
Quote from: fcuksake on July 25, 2008, 12:33:00 AM


Gordons Gin

;) ;)

Cheeky fcuker!!!!

;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 25, 2008, 10:16:26 PM
Killeavey v Pearse Ogs ended in a draw 1-11 to 0-14
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 26, 2008, 08:59:58 AM
Crossmaglen 14 13 2 0 28
Culloville 14 8 1 5 17
Clan na Gael 14 6 3 5 15
Pearse Og 13 7 3 4 15
St Patrick's 14 7 1 6 15
Dromintee 14 6 1 7 13
Killeavey 15 6 1 8 13
Mullaghbawn 15 5 2 8 12
Harps 15 4 2 9 10
Maghery 14 2 2 10 6

This is the table I think.  The abandoned mullaghbawn game from last week and our game against St.Pats still aren't there though.  That will be a valuable point for Killeavey last night, who seem to be on good form at the minute.

The match last night was thoroughly enjoyable, with some fine performances on both sides
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 26, 2008, 12:01:37 PM
Quote
Crossmaglen 14 13 2 0 28
Culloville 14 8 1 5 17
Clan na Gael 14 6 3 5 15
Pearse Og 13 7 3 4 15
St Patrick's 14 7 1 6 15
Dromintee 14 6 1 7 13
Killeavey 15 6 1 8 13
Mullaghbawn 15 5 2 8 12
Harps 15 4 2 9 10
Maghery 14 2 2 10 6

I think St Pat's have played 16 games (15 if you don't count the abandoned game against Ogs which will almost certainly not be replayed). The only teams I can think of that we haven't played twice are Maghery and Culloville.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 26, 2008, 12:10:38 PM
Ogs have four games left not including the st pats one (any word on how this one will pan out by the way?)

Maghery,
Harps x 2
Dromintee

are ur points right?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on July 26, 2008, 04:44:13 PM
Very sorry to have to report the passing of one of the Club greats in Armagh - Iggy Mallon of Mullabrack.

Iggy was a true GAA hero in that he kept Gaelic Football going in a part of our County where it was threatening to die, despite overwhelming odds.

Deepest sympathies to the Mallon family and to the Gaels of Mullabrack O'Donovan Rossa.

May He Rest In Peace. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PatDaly on July 26, 2008, 06:07:46 PM
Did Dromintee get the 2 points from the match where Clan na Gael didn't show up? If yes the table will look like this

Crossmaglen 14 13 2 0 28
Culloville 14 8 1 5 17
Clan na Gael 15 6 3 6 15
Dromintee 15 7 1 7 15
Pearse Og 13 7 3 4 15
St Patrick's 14 7 1 6 15
Killeavey 15 6 1 8 13
Mullaghbawn 15 5 2 8 12
Harps 15 4 2 9 10
Maghery 14 2 2 10 6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maximus Marillius on July 26, 2008, 06:54:31 PM
Where di dye boys pull that ref out of...a spitful ref if ever i saw one against tyrone today...and trust me when I say Tyrone are not one of my favourite teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on July 26, 2008, 06:57:17 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on July 26, 2008, 06:54:31 PM
Where di dye boys pull that ref out of...a spitful ref if ever i saw one against tyrone today...and trust me when I say Tyrone are not one of my favourite teams.


And he's not joking either !!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 26, 2008, 07:03:15 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 26, 2008, 06:57:17 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on July 26, 2008, 06:54:31 PM
Where di dye boys pull that ref out of...a spitful ref if ever i saw one against tyrone today...and trust me when I say Tyrone are not one of my favourite teams.


And he's not joking either !!!

paudi at it again. he's an awful man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on July 26, 2008, 07:23:09 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 26, 2008, 07:03:15 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 26, 2008, 06:57:17 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on July 26, 2008, 06:54:31 PM
Where di dye boys pull that ref out of...a spitful ref if ever i saw one against tyrone today...and trust me when I say Tyrone are not one of my favourite teams.


And he's not joking either !!!

paudi at it again. he's an awful man.



Is he the top referee in Armagh or even close ?

I know he probably thinks he is the best but who is top dog in Armagh ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 26, 2008, 07:34:19 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 26, 2008, 07:23:09 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 26, 2008, 07:03:15 PM
Quote from: orangeman on July 26, 2008, 06:57:17 PM
Quote from: Maximus Marillius on July 26, 2008, 06:54:31 PM
Where di dye boys pull that ref out of...a spitful ref if ever i saw one against tyrone today...and trust me when I say Tyrone are not one of my favourite teams.


And he's not joking either !!!

paudi at it again. he's an awful man.



Is he the top referee in Armagh or even close ?

I know he probably thinks he is the best but who is top dog in Armagh ?

Ronan Quigley
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on July 26, 2008, 07:51:34 PM
Does Ronan get any IC games ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 26, 2008, 07:54:51 PM
No, but he should.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on July 26, 2008, 10:55:18 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 26, 2008, 07:54:51 PM
No, but he should.
I'd heard alot about him in these posts, been a complete tool, but I seen him Ref the Harps & Cross in Cross this year and I thought he was pretty good. He was very fair in all his decisions


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on July 26, 2008, 11:02:41 PM
Paudie Hughes is an egotistical, self centred,control freak sc**bag who needs to be brought down a peg or two.

Nice to see him and all his cronies get the coverage they so badly crave!

Chap seriously needs to be brought down a peg or two!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on July 27, 2008, 01:26:30 PM
is the match on setanta trying to watch in the states any help?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 27, 2008, 08:22:04 PM
Dessie Mc Donald from Whitcross aint too bad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on July 27, 2008, 11:07:02 PM
Just like to add my sympathies to the Mallon family on the passing of Iggy.  Some legendary characters gathered in his garage over the years and the craic was mighty.  He will be greatly missed.

R.I.P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 27, 2008, 11:34:36 PM
I don't recall the clans failing to fulfill any fixtures this year so why would dromintee get the points for that game???? also i hear cullovile are being a shower of w ankers this weekend by refusing to call a game off away to the clans. One of the lads is gettiing married and them guys won't call it off. I would love to take it out on them in the championship but they are not even in it. But sure if that is the only way they can get two points at davitt then good luck to them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 27, 2008, 11:37:53 PM
QuoteI would love to take it out on them in the championship but they are not even in it.
They are.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on July 28, 2008, 09:04:02 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 27, 2008, 11:37:53 PM
QuoteI would love to take it out on them in the championship but they are not even in it.
They are.

They are in the intermediate pints
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 28, 2008, 09:05:59 AM
Still the championship none the less.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 28, 2008, 09:24:08 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on July 28, 2008, 09:05:59 AM
Still the championship none the less.....

Yes Hank but no chance of them meeting  >:( ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 28, 2008, 09:43:31 AM
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 27th JULY 2008


ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 15 13 2 0 28
Culloville 14 8 1 5 17
Pearse Og 13 6 3 4 15
Clan na Gael 14 6 3 5 15
St Patrick's 15 7 1 7 15
Dromintee 14 6 1 7 13
Mullaghbawn 15 5 2 8 12
Killeavey 14 5 1 8 11
Harps 15 4 2 9 10
Maghery 14 2 2 10 6

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 16 12 1 3 25
Carrickcruppen 16 10 1 5 21
St Michael's 16 9 1 6 19
Tir na nÓg 14 9 0 5 18
Clann Eireann 14 8 1 5 17
Granemore 15 8 0 7 16
Ballymacnab 14 6 1 7 13
Silverbridge 14 6 1 7 13
Wolfe Tone 14 6 0 8 12
Whitecross 15 4 0 11 8
An Port Mor 15 3 1 11 7
Keady 11 2 1 8 5

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Madden 14 11 2 1 24
St Paul's 15 11 1 3 23
Collegeland 16 10 2 4 22
Ballyhegan 14 8 0 6 16
Belleek 14 7 2 5 16
Annaghmore 15 8 0 7 16
St Peter's 14 5 2 7 12
Clonmore 14 4 3 7 11
Lissummon 15 5 3 7 13
Tullysaran 15 4 2 9 10
Grange 15 3 1 11 7
Crossmaglen II 13 1 2 10 4

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 14 13 1 0 27
Eire Og 15 10 1 4 21
Middletown 12 8 3 1 19
Forkhill 16 9 1 6 19
Derrynoose 13 9 0 4 18
Clady 13 6 2 5 14
O'Hanlon's 14 7 0 7 14
Corrinshego 14 4 1 9 9
Dorsey Emmett's 14 3 0 11 6
Mullaghbrack 15 3 1 11 7
Phelim Brady's 14 0 0 14 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 28, 2008, 09:54:09 AM
Quote from: PatDaly on July 26, 2008, 06:07:46 PM
Did Dromintee get the 2 points from the match where Clan na Gael didn't show up? If yes the table will look like this

Crossmaglen 14 13 2 0 28
Culloville 14 8 1 5 17
Clan na Gael 15 6 3 6 15
Dromintee 15 7 1 7 15
Pearse Og 13 7 3 4 15
St Patrick's 14 7 1 6 15
Killeavey 15 6 1 8 13
Mullaghbawn 15 5 2 8 12
Harps 15 4 2 9 10
Maghery 14 2 2 10 6

Sorry to inform you but Dromintee did not get the points, we still have to travel to Dromintee sometime next month
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Abble on July 28, 2008, 12:04:52 PM
Quote from: Skiddybadoo on July 27, 2008, 11:07:02 PM
Just like to add my sympathies to the Mallon family on the passing of Iggy.  Some legendary characters gathered in his garage over the years and the craic was mighty.  He will be greatly missed.

R.I.P

if ever there was a Gaelic club which has just had the heart ripped out of it this is it. Mullabrack is one of the smallest clubs around and does not have any underage boys teams. but down to endless work and passion for Mullabrack this man has kept the club running through thick and thin. involved in absolutely everything.

a gentleman into the bargain, he also expected all players and anyone representing the club to behave in a way befitting of any good gael. every year he would speak to the players as a group explaining to them the values of the club and the level of behaviour that was expected of everyone. and at championship time also he would be involved in helping to give everyone a gee-up beforehand.

a hard hard week ahead and even moreso with upcoming junior c'ship match against local neighbours O'Hanlons.

Our thoughts are with the Mallon family.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 28, 2008, 01:02:39 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 28, 2008, 09:54:09 AM
Quote from: PatDaly on July 26, 2008, 06:07:46 PM
Did Dromintee get the 2 points from the match where Clan na Gael didn't show up? If yes the table will look like this

Crossmaglen 14 13 2 0 28
Culloville 14 8 1 5 17
Clan na Gael 15 6 3 6 15
Dromintee 15 7 1 7 15
Pearse Og 13 7 3 4 15
St Patrick's 14 7 1 6 15
Killeavey 15 6 1 8 13
Mullaghbawn 15 5 2 8 12
Harps 15 4 2 9 10
Maghery 14 2 2 10 6

Sorry to inform you but Dromintee did not get the points, we still have to travel to Dromintee sometime next month


Win it was called off for a Clans golf classic so yous did miss a fixture this year.

Illdecide, it is not Dromintee claiming, this is the county boards doing. Hopefully the game is played.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 28, 2008, 01:04:03 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on July 28, 2008, 09:43:31 AM
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 27th JULY 2008


ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 15 13 2 0 28
Culloville 14 8 1 5 17
Pearse Og 13 6 3 4 15
Clan na Gael 14 6 3 5 15
St Patrick's 15 7 1 7 15
Dromintee 14 6 1 7 13
Mullaghbawn 15 5 2 8 12
Killeavey 14 5 1 8 11
Harps 15 4 2 9 10
Maghery 14 2 2 10 6

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 16 12 1 3 25
Carrickcruppen 16 10 1 5 21
St Michael's 16 9 1 6 19
Tir na nÓg 14 9 0 5 18
Clann Eireann 14 8 1 5 17
Granemore 15 8 0 7 16
Ballymacnab 14 6 1 7 13
Silverbridge 14 6 1 7 13
Wolfe Tone 14 6 0 8 12
Whitecross 15 4 0 11 8
An Port Mor 15 3 1 11 7
Keady 11 2 1 8 5

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Madden 14 11 2 1 24
St Paul's 15 11 1 3 23
Collegeland 16 10 2 4 22
Ballyhegan 14 8 0 6 16
Belleek 14 7 2 5 16
Annaghmore 15 8 0 7 16
St Peter's 14 5 2 7 12
Clonmore 14 4 3 7 11
Lissummon 15 5 3 7 13
Tullysaran 15 4 2 9 10
Grange 15 3 1 11 7
Crossmaglen II 13 1 2 10 4

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 14 13 1 0 27
Eire Og 15 10 1 4 21
Middletown 12 8 3 1 19
Forkhill 16 9 1 6 19
Derrynoose 13 9 0 4 18
Clady 13 6 2 5 14
O'Hanlon's 14 7 0 7 14
Corrinshego 14 4 1 9 9
Dorsey Emmett's 14 3 0 11 6
Mullaghbrack 15 3 1 11 7
Phelim Brady's 14 0 0 14 0

That table's is wrong Hank.  Killeavey have 13 points.  they have also played 15
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 28, 2008, 02:02:00 PM
Well done el-cuervo, imagine my shame... i cut and paste them from orchard county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 28, 2008, 02:53:36 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on July 28, 2008, 02:02:00 PM
Well done el-cuervo, imagine my shame... i cut and paste them from orchard county.

And there's me thinkin you counted them up yourself  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 28, 2008, 04:44:40 PM
No corn it was called off for our golf classic so there then would have been no fixture. So we didn't miss a fixture it was simpy re-arranged
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 28, 2008, 05:45:24 PM
You said you havent missed a fixture. You missed the fixture on that Friday, therefore that is a fixture missed.. When you made the point a few weeks back about Dromintee missing all these games yo udid not take into account that they were refixed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 28, 2008, 07:10:12 PM
yeah we got a fixture postponed with Dromintee agreeing to do it. This is completely different from not fulfilling a fixture. If you can't see this then i rest my case.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 28, 2008, 07:44:28 PM
You rest your case? Jesus man.

Your in the wrong here bud, basically your saying if a team wanted to miss a fixture and the opponents agreed and both sides fixed for 2012 it would not be a fixture unfulfilled.

Missing a fixture is missing a match on a certain date a certain time. Missing a match is totally different. Fixture = match FIXED for a certain date and time.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 28, 2008, 08:13:26 PM
from Orchardcounty.com

ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 3 AUGUST 2008


Wednesday 30 July

Junior Football Championship – 1st Round (7.30)
Clady v Derrynoose (Brendan Gorman) at Keady

'B' Football Championship – Semi-Final (7.30)
Granemore v St Patrick's (Barney Henry) at Newtownhamilton

ACL – Division Three (7.30)
St Paul's v Madden (Rory Robinson)


Thursday 31 July

Under-16 Football Championship – Semi-Final (7.30)
Crossmaglen v Pearse Og (Rory Robinson) at Ballymacnab (Extra time, if required)


Friday 1 August

Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round Replay (7.30)
An Port Mor v Sarsfields (Ronan Quigley) at Ballyhegan (Extra time, if required)

Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round (7.30)
Collegeland v Keady (Jim Burns) at Abbey Park

Junior Football Championship – 1st Round (7.30)
Eire Og v Phelim Brady's (Stephen McKinley) at Mullaghbrack

ACL – Division Two (7.30)
Ballymacnab v Clann Eireann (Oliver Hearty)

ACL – Division Three (7.30)
Clonmore v Annaghmore (Paul Boylan)
St Peter's v Crossmaglen II (Sean McClatchey)


Saturday 2 August

Junior Football Championship – 1st Round (7.30)
Mullaghbrack v O'Hanlon's (Stephen Murray) at Whitecross


Sunday 3 August

Junior Football Championship – 1st Round
Dorsey Emmett's v Tullysaran (Malachy McNicholl) at Granemore (2.00)
Belleek v Grange (Gary Smith) at Ballymacnab (5.30)
Middletown v Shane O'Neill's (Mickey Leonard) at Ballymacnab (7.30)

ACL – Division One (2.00)
Dromintee v Killeavey (Seamus O'Neill)
Harps v Pearse Og (Vincent O'Neill)
Crossmaglen v Mullaghbawn (Stephen Murray)
Clan na Gael v Culloville (Off)
St Patrick's v Maghery (Sean McClatchey)

ACL – Division Two (2.00)
Tir na nÓg v An Port Mor (Eamon Nugent)
Clann Eireann v Granemore (Jim Slevin)
Sarsfields v Carrickcruppen (Kevin McNeice)
St Michael's v Keady (Kevin Murtagh)
Whitecross v Wolfe Tone (Tony O'Hare)
Silverbridge v Ballymacnab (Jimmy McKee)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 28, 2008, 08:50:20 PM
If you fail to fulfill something then that means it doesn't happen. Ie dromintee failing to fulfil their ambition of winning the championship. The dromintee game was refixed for another day therefore it will take place as agreed by both teams and thus be fulfilled. Also would like to add that it was decent of Dromintee to agree to it many teams wouldn't.

On another issue, was at clones yesterday and at the end of the game supporters tried to get onto the pitch. The bawl seamus Mc Donagh was manning the gate and a few irate fans started to push the gate open Mc donagh done his best to keep it closed despite floods of people coming onto the pitch from all gates from all angles. I then witness a lad from the tones (Steward0 coming over to back mc Donagh up. He slammed the gate closed on the irate fans. Only for one of them to slam the boot in and kick it open smacking him on the head. He took of his baseball cap and there was a lump on his head the size of a golf ball :) he then shouted back at the guy saying he would remember his face :) and he was emphasising the fact that he was a volunteer. I laughed the whole way through the presentation at it because the guy in question is a complete ball bag. justice was done.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 28, 2008, 08:55:06 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 28, 2008, 08:50:20 PM
If you fail to fulfill something then that means it doesn't happen. Ie dromintee failing to fulfil their ambition of winning the championship.

That's an ambition the Clans won't have anytime soon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on July 28, 2008, 09:55:47 PM
paudie why is it every game he does its him we are talking about what a FOOL think he has just done his last game this year you could not let a dick like that do any more games because this is were the real football starts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on July 29, 2008, 09:37:41 AM
Think after this weekend we will know who is gonna be relegated with all the relegation candidates playing.

Any predictions on the games? Dromintee v Killeavy will be interesting and so will Cullyhanna v Maghery. Big match of the weekend however is harps v ogs. hope the county boys are playing on both teams so there can be no excuses. Think andy mallon is out though with a broken arm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 29, 2008, 09:54:01 AM
Andy is out but there's no chance that the County Boys will be Playing.  Sure It would only be a week before the 1/4 Final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Albi on July 29, 2008, 11:08:00 AM
First time poster - long time reader...!

Going back to the harps, was looking at the minor photo the year they won Ulster:

Kevin Smyth
Kyle McGuigan
Bambi McCourt
Jonny Killen
Fergus McAleavey
Bryan Killen
Sean Hughes
Stephen Rush
Bobby McVeigh
John Darragh
Ryan Donnelly
Jonny Daly
Eoin Rafferty
Paul Hagan
Shane McVeigh
Declan Coulter
Ciaran Clifford

17 Players.... 7 county minors - ALL GONE. I knew it was bad, but didnt realise just how!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 12:29:31 PM
I could have sworn that there was an armagh harps thread on this board and think these posts would be more welcome there lads.

Oh and corn the clans would have as high an ambition as Dromintee. Considering you have never won anything, yet you find a confidence from somewhere to constantly put other clubs down. Confidence has to be based on something I am struggling to find the source of yours.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on July 29, 2008, 12:48:16 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 12:29:31 PM
I could have sworn that there was an armagh harps thread on this board and think these posts would be more welcome there lads.

Oh and corn the clans would have as high an ambition as Dromintee. Considering you have never won anything, yet you find a confidence from somewhere to constantly put other clubs down. Confidence has to be based on something I am struggling to find the source of yours.

Correct WSW that corn is sum pup- at least the clans have some heart dromintee simply just lie down to cross- Mouthpieces
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 29, 2008, 01:14:38 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 28, 2008, 08:55:06 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 28, 2008, 08:50:20 PM
If you fail to fulfill something then that means it doesn't happen. Ie dromintee failing to fulfil their ambition of winning the championship.

That's an ambition the Clans won't have anytime soon.


Then in the meantime they will probably just polish the 15 they already have. ;) What will dromintee do in the meantime? Polish eachothers nobs? ;D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Albi on July 29, 2008, 02:16:52 PM
In fairness lads there was a good discussion on here about a lot of club losin players and whether it was a city thing or whether drink was to blame... just giving an example of how extreme it had got for us

Local GAA discussion anyone?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 29, 2008, 02:21:34 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 12:29:31 PM
I could have sworn that there was an armagh harps thread on this board and think these posts would be more welcome there lads.
Oh and corn the clans would have as high an ambition as Dromintee. Considering you have never won anything, yet you find a confidence from somewhere to constantly put other clubs down. Confidence has to be based on something I am struggling to find the source of yours.

WSS, we had been discussing how great under age teams make it or don't make it up to senior teams.  I was comparing the differing fortunes between Harps succesful under age squads and Cross's.  But then agin this is not sometinhg Clan's need to worry about either as they haven't had much inder age success either in recent years :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on July 29, 2008, 02:58:53 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 29, 2008, 02:21:34 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 12:29:31 PM
I could have sworn that there was an armagh harps thread on this board and think these posts would be more welcome there lads.
Oh and corn the clans would have as high an ambition as Dromintee. Considering you have never won anything, yet you find a confidence from somewhere to constantly put other clubs down. Confidence has to be based on something I am struggling to find the source of yours.

WSS, we had been discussing how great under age teams make it or don't make it up to senior teams.  I was comparing the differing fortunes between Harps succesful under age squads and Cross's.  But then agin this is not sometinhg Clan's need to worry about either as they haven't had much inder age success either in recent years :P

You would know alot about BC sure the clans had a u-16 team that ddint lose a mtach two years ago and won all four trophies - including the county cahmpionship.   Anyhow if I was you i would worry about crosses position alot of men getting on in years ie JD, The mac Twins, Mcconville and feck all coming through- glass houses lad- I will tell you one thing Cross will not win nr 13 this year someone will beat youse and I hope to see it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 29, 2008, 03:08:46 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on July 29, 2008, 02:58:53 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 29, 2008, 02:21:34 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 12:29:31 PM
I could have sworn that there was an armagh harps thread on this board and think these posts would be more welcome there lads.
Oh and corn the clans would have as high an ambition as Dromintee. Considering you have never won anything, yet you find a confidence from somewhere to constantly put other clubs down. Confidence has to be based on something I am struggling to find the source of yours.

WSS, we had been discussing how great under age teams make it or don't make it up to senior teams.  I was comparing the differing fortunes between Harps succesful under age squads and Cross's.  But then agin this is not sometinhg Clan's need to worry about either as they haven't had much inder age success either in recent years :P

You would know alot about BC sure the clans had a u-16 team that ddint lose a mtach two years ago and won all four trophies - including the county cahmpionship.   Anyhow if I was you i would worry about crosses position alot of men getting on in years ie JD, The mac Twins, Mcconville and feck all coming through- glass houses lad- I will tell you one thing Cross will not win nr 13 this year someone will beat youse and I hope to see it

Feck all coming through, are you for real!  Correct me if I'm wrong but Cross had 4 players under the age of 25 playing for Armagh on Sunday with one on the bench.  The average age of the team is 24.  They have won the league at a canter this year without playing a full team once.  Like I have posted already, players like the twins etc will retire, but so will players on the other clubs in Armagh, Cross though will have a better ability to absorp these retirements than other clubs.  If Cross don't win 13 this year well than so be it, but it is theirs to lose.  The rest of Armagh is catching up, it is just that Cross have kpt the gap wide enough.  I'll hold my tongue until later in the championship year, but I feel I will be on here in Sept/Oct congratulating our lads on their latest county winm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 03:14:32 PM
BC i am well ware that we had this debate but we don't need to constantly list harps players that didn't make it from feile teams etc. It is possible to state the point without continiously naming players. Every team could name players that they have lost from under age and i can tell you we would gather some list. I also agree that we haven't had much success over the years at under age but i fail to see how this is relevant. How embarassing is it then for the other clubs when the clans have managed to perform better than all these teams that have had under age success  ??? ???. We are surviving with maybe 1 or 2  unsuccessful ones coming through each year and we are still managing to win a few senior league titles and reach a county final. So perhaps these under age successes are over rated??? or the correct management structure doesn't exist to bring these lads into senior. Lets not forget under age success  doesn't necessarily bring senior success. I think you guys were confusing this pint abit. It certainly couldn't hinder a team but let's not solely atrribute it on the downfall the harps are experiencing this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 29, 2008, 03:27:28 PM
WSS, if you notice at the end of my post, ir was tongue in cheek!  I agree with you that underage success does not necessarily bring on senior success.  Look at Kerry.  The main thing is to have good systems in place which can help generate 2-3 good players every minor team.  If underage success comes with that then that is a bonus.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 03:30:18 PM
Yeah so in fact we are agreeing and not arguing lad. but sure have to go infalliable is just about to romp home at Goodwood have, a few dollars on her.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 03:34:03 PM
Another 1 bites the dust paco boy romps home. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 29, 2008, 03:43:21 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 12:29:31 PM

Oh and corn the clans would have as high an ambition as Dromintee. Considering you have never won anything, yet you find a confidence from somewhere to constantly put other clubs down. Confidence has to be based on something I am struggling to find the source of yours.

Was any of the current squad on the last team to win it, I doubt it? So don't see how you have more right to be confident. Fact is that we have been Cross main challenegrs and well it is well documented that we could not break them down, I am sure that BC and the Cross lads would agree that we gave them a whole lot more to think about than the Clans did over the 12 years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on July 29, 2008, 04:24:15 PM
How many championships have dromintee won and when was the last?  How many championships have clanns won and when was the last?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 29, 2008, 04:27:06 PM
I think your being genuine here but Dromintee have won zero so our last will be our first.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 04:28:22 PM
Gareth mc caugherty, Diarmuid marsden, Barry O' hagan, Steven Lavery, John Campbell, and possibly Paul O' hagan and phillip Oldham all played the last time the Clans won the championship and they are still on the panel. Corn you see you keep bringing up this point of coming second and i keep telling you the same thing, it means nothing what so ever. Success is judged by trophies of which your club has maye 1 division 1 league title in it's entire existance. Our roll of honour is there to be seen and even in our baron years we have won 5 division 1 league titles. Also please refrain from begging BC to back you up. BC is wise enough to read the posts and then decide where he stands. So please don't give me challenging for championships as the basis for your confidence . Every team in the championship challenges. Who is to say that if the ogs meet Cross as many times as Dromintee did i the last te  years then they could have upset the Cross. The same goes for any club. The flip side to your argument is the fact that Dromintee have played the Cross more times than any other club in the last 10 years in the championship and have failed to register a single victory. In my opinion if we would have played them every year for 10 years we possibly could have registered one victory and we certainly could have got within two points of them which is all you have achieved. I would also say that the ogs could have possibly registered a victory and perhaps mullaghbawn. But this is all speculation, what is fact is that Dromintee have meet Cross for ten years i the championship and lost out on every occassion.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 29, 2008, 04:30:14 PM
And why did we meet them the most because we got to more finals or semis than any other team in the county, therefore their biggest challengers. Stop embarassing yourself man.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 04:30:34 PM
clans have won 15 Billy the last being in 1994
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 29, 2008, 04:33:13 PM
That is 14 years ago. A successful team in the past but at the moment they are as successful as Dromintee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on July 29, 2008, 04:37:43 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 29, 2008, 04:27:06 PM
I think your being genuine here but Dromintee have won zero so our last will be our first.

Yes I was being genuine.  But have to say im shocked Dromintee have never won a Championship.

Do any of you guys think this could be the year to unseat cross or is the league table a fair reflection of where they are compared to other teams?  With the final set to be staged at the athletic grounds surely this is bound to help
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 04:40:44 PM
Corn i think it is you that is embarassing yourself lad. You are speaking like you have a winning list the length of a baby's arm. You even had to question whether or not Billy the kid was serious and not sarcastic asking you that last question  :D. This is because you know yourself that coming second doesn't matter. It doesn't matter about semi finals or finals you still haven't won aything. I notice the way you didn't retract your statement about doubting if there were any of the current squad that had won a championship :D :D you are very selective. You then realising that you haven't a leg to stand on begin to go down the route of personal attacks. lets look at the facts if the clans had met the Cross in the championship for the last ten yeas in a row at any stage and failed to register one win coupled with the fact that Dromintee have never won anything ( i most certainly would be embarassed and would tend to lie a little lower). I don't think most teams in the county would be spouting as loudly. The harps have equally as  good a tradition as the clans and they are not even spouting as loudly as You. Maybe this year will be your year and then you can at least claim to be the biggest challengers but until then go easy with the confidence.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 04:43:09 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 29, 2008, 04:33:13 PM
That is 14 years ago. A successful team in the past but at the moment they are as successful as Dromintee.

Finally the penny has dropped
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 29, 2008, 04:45:48 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on July 29, 2008, 04:37:43 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 29, 2008, 04:27:06 PM
I think your being genuine here but Dromintee have won zero so our last will be our first.

Yes I was being genuine.  But have to say im shocked Dromintee have never won a Championship.

Do any of you guys think this could be the year to unseat cross or is the league table a fair reflection of where they are compared to other teams?  With the final set to be staged at the athletic grounds surely this is bound to help

I don't think the field will have a major bearing on it to be honest.  We won 7 or 8 in fields other than Cross, including at least 5 in the Athletic Grounds.  If anything, it can be a hindrance to play in Cross as people expect you to win handy, and it never is easy.

I think if anyone is to beat us this year they will have to hope that Cross have a bad day and they have a great day.  This may seem arrogant but lets face it all things being equal Cross are the best.  If they are beaten by say Dromintee then fair play to them, but that doesn't mean a pile of piss as I reckon they would come back next year and win it back.  But I really cannot see that happening.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 29, 2008, 06:05:17 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 29, 2008, 04:33:13 PM
That is 14 years ago. A successful team in the past but at the moment they are as successful as Dromintee.


I beg to differ young man. In the past 14 years Clan na Gael have won 8 division 1 league titles. Dromintee have won 1 I think. Now before everyone starts going nuts about the value of the league, I agree with you all and I know for a fact its seen as meaningless in Davit park. However this doesnt get away from the fact that outside of Cross the Clans are the most decorated team of the past 14 years. There are 2 trophies for grabs every year, Cross have had the main one tied up so that only leaves on more and the Clans have been most successful in this competition, which if nothing else shows a level of consistency.

Having said that I always found it hard to understand why clubs like Dromintee turn their nose up at the league title. How many senior trophies has your club won over the past 100 years, league or otherwise? Not too many I would imagine. Now it wasnt too long ago that yous were in the very lower divisions in Armagh football. Back then surely it would have been seen as an achievement for your senior team even to play in division 1. Now all of a sudden yous are above actually winning it! >:( Where exactly do yous get this arrogance from? Are yous secretly winning countless titles in other counties? A title is a title and your club cannot boast too many of them im afraid, so wise up! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 29, 2008, 07:48:42 PM
Quote from: Albi on July 29, 2008, 02:16:52 PM
In fairness lads there was a good discussion on here about a lot of club losin players and whether it was a city thing or whether drink was to blame... just giving an example of how extreme it had got for us

Local GAA discussion anyone?

Yes, and much better than listening to who done what on clans this week  ::)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on July 29, 2008, 09:41:07 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on July 29, 2008, 04:24:15 PM
How many championships have dromintee won and when was the last?  How many championships have clanns won and when was the last?

I was still playing when Dromintee re-entered the league.

Any news on Andy Mallon's injury?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on July 29, 2008, 10:26:53 PM
RE: ALBI

Kevin Smyth - transfer to Mullabrack, lack of football
Kyle McGuigan - Went to work in Australia, only back recently
Bambi McCourt- Went to work in Australia, only back recently
Jonny Killen- Went to work in Australia, only back recently
Fergus McAleavey - Still played until 6 weeks into this season, work commitments
Bryan Killen - header
Sean Hughes - transfer to Nab, lack of football
Stephen Rush - header
Bobby McVeigh - header
John Darragh - Still supports the club but no longer on field
Ryan Donnelly - tranferred to Tullysaran, where now???
Jonny Daly - played B football until end of last year
Eoin Rafferty - back to Grange under the rules of his initial transfer
Paul Hagan - B player
Shane McVeigh - not playing
Declan Coulter - County Hurler, Club hurler, cannot commit to both but occasionally plays B football
Ciaran Clifford - County Hurler, Club hurler, cannot commit to both but occasionally plays B football


Just for your info
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 10:36:20 PM
pints no one metioned the clans you dick we were talking about Dromintee. Go back and read the posts correctly and you will see that the debate had nothing to do with the clans and it was infact corn making outrageous claims about dromintee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 29, 2008, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 10:36:20 PM
pints no one metioned the clans you dick we were talking about Dromintee. Go back and read the posts correctly and you will see that the debate had nothing to do with the clans and it was infact corn making outrageous claims about dromintee.
I wasn't talking about your discussion with corn.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 29, 2008, 11:22:19 PM
Quote from: Orior on July 29, 2008, 09:41:07 PM

Any news on Andy Mallon's injury?

Andy has a broken arm and needs plates put in.  he'll miss the rest of the year unfortunately. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on July 29, 2008, 11:23:48 PM
Quote from: Albi on July 29, 2008, 11:08:00 AM
First time poster - long time reader...!

Going back to the harps, was looking at the minor photo the year they won Ulster:

Kevin Smyth
Kyle McGuigan
Bambi McCourt
Jonny Killen
Fergus McAleavey
Bryan Killen
Sean Hughes
Stephen Rush
Bobby McVeigh
John Darragh
Ryan Donnelly
Jonny Daly
Eoin Rafferty
Paul Hagan
Shane McVeigh
Declan Coulter
Ciaran Clifford

17 Players.... 7 county minors - ALL GONE. I knew it was bad, but didnt realise just how!

Albi - welcome aboard Kid! Always room for another Harps poster. Spot on to with your first post, and in the appropriate thread too!!

Don't worry about some of the fools around here - some seem to feel that if they type many words they are saying something worthwhile. The reality is that they are full of it! A cursory glance of the latest pages of this thread will point you in the right direction. Safer ignored!   ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 29, 2008, 11:27:11 PM
Rufus, is there anyway you could make the Harps thread in to the Clans thread and they could all stay over there and we'll carry on here?
(Not that I can speak anything because I don't live in the country anymore)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on July 30, 2008, 01:13:11 AM
I agree that second place is not something worth fighting for or bragging about but...

Quote from: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 04:28:22 PM
Gareth mc caugherty, Diarmuid marsden, Barry O' hagan, Steven Lavery, John Campbell, and possibly Paul O' hagan and phillip Oldham all played the last time the Clans won the championship and they are still on the panel. Corn you see you keep bringing up this point of coming second and i keep telling you the same thing, it means nothing what so ever. Success is judged by trophies of which your club has maye 1 division 1 league title in it's entire existance. Our roll of honour is there to be seen and even in our baron years we have won 5 division 1 league titles. Also please refrain from begging BC to back you up. BC is wise enough to read the posts and then decide where he stands. So please don't give me challenging for championships as the basis for your confidence . Every team in the championship challenges. Who is to say that if the ogs meet Cross as many times as Dromintee did i the last te  years then they could have upset the Cross. The same goes for any club. The flip side to your argument is the fact that Dromintee have played the Cross more times than any other club in the last 10 years in the championship and have failed to register a single victory. In my opinion if we would have played them every year for 10 years we possibly could have registered one victory and we certainly could have got within two points of them which is all you have achieved. I would also say that the ogs could have possibly registered a victory and perhaps mullaghbawn. But this is all speculation, what is fact is that Dromintee have meet Cross for ten years i the championship and lost out on every occassion.

That is the stupidest argument I ever heard! Just as Dromintee havent been able to beat Cross in 9 years, nor has any other team in the entire senior championship been able to beat dromintee in 9 years!!! Including clans!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 30, 2008, 09:18:58 AM
Taken from Irish News

Mallon set for surgery

ARMAGH defender Andy Mallon will today undergo

surgery on a broken arm which looks set to rule him out of his county's Championship campaign.

Manager Peter McDonnell yesterday confirmed that the Pearse Og man will have a metal plate inserted into his arm having sustained the injury during

Armagh's Ulster final replay victory over Fermanagh on Sunday.

"There are players who really revel in the role of man-marking and Andy Mallon is top of the list as far as we're concerned. He will be a huge loss," said McDonnell.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 30, 2008, 09:22:43 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 29, 2008, 11:27:11 PM
Rufus, is there anyway you could make the Harps thread in to the Clans thread and they could all stay over there and we'll carry on here?
(Not that I can speak anything because I don't live in the country anymore)

Hi pints you should take another 2 of those F**k off tablets you took a few weeks back.

P.S. give that tube of a ref (R Quigley) a couple from the bridge as well ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on July 30, 2008, 09:28:21 AM
Andy will be a huge loss... it was clear he had done serious damage from the minute he went down... he'll be back for the all ireland final!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 30, 2008, 11:09:59 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on July 30, 2008, 09:28:21 AM
Andy will be a huge loss... it was clear he had done serious damage from the minute he went down... he'll be back for the all ireland final!!!

Big big loss, he is our quickest defender who usually snuffs out the most dangerous attacker on the opposing team. Hope he's not out to long
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on July 30, 2008, 11:23:52 AM
big loss for the ogs as well.

Any predictions on this weekends games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 30, 2008, 12:56:40 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 29, 2008, 04:40:44 PM
lets look at the facts if the clans had met the Cross in the championship for the last ten yeas in a row at any stage and failed to register one win coupled with the fact that Dromintee have never won anything ( i most certainly would be embarassed and would tend to lie a little lower).

What an idiotic statement, so why have the clans not met Cross for the last ten years in a row? By the way we have met them seven times ina row not 10.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 30, 2008, 01:01:10 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 29, 2008, 06:05:17 PM

Having said that I always found it hard to understand why clubs like Dromintee turn their nose up at the league title. How many senior trophies has your club won over the past 100 years, league or otherwise? Not too many I would imagine. Now it wasnt too long ago that yous were in the very lower divisions in Armagh football. Back then surely it would have been seen as an achievement for your senior team even to play in division 1. Now all of a sudden yous are above actually winning it! >:( Where exactly do yous get this arrogance from? Are yous secretly winning countless titles in other counties? A title is a title and your club cannot boast too many of them im afraid, so wise up! ;)

I think this is even worse than Wins points.

The fact that we have been involved in releagtion fights in the last few years would not suggest we are turning our noses up, more we have not played well in the league. We were delighted to win the league and Dromintee would love to win the league every year. We appreciate our top -flight status, we are the only side in Armagh to never be relegated and we worked our way up from the lower divisions, getting promoted twice in two years.

The reason we struggle is because we live in a small parish with a small pick. Take away the  county contingent and we are a lot weaker.

Of course you mention that you have won x number of times over the last few years, I don't remeber to be honest. I remeber Cross winning this year, us a few years ago and Cullyhanna the year before. The only thing I rememvber about Clanns and the league is that you got relegated recently. Not being rude, just honest. You can win all the lkeagues you want and so can we, but until a team beats Cross it doesn't matter one bit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Albi on July 30, 2008, 01:46:54 PM
Thanks Rufus...i was beginning to realise having flicked through a page or 2!!

Heres to beating the ogs on sunday! (hopefully  :-\)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 30, 2008, 01:49:40 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 30, 2008, 01:01:10 PM
You can win all the lkeagues you want and so can we, but until a team beats Cross it doesn't matter one bit.

Case closed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 30, 2008, 03:02:06 PM
Of course you mention that you have won x number of times over the last few years, I don't remeber to be honest. I remeber Cross winning this year, us a few years ago and Cullyhanna the year before. The only thing I rememvber about Clanns and the league is that you got relegated recently. Not being rude, just honest. You can win all the lkeagues you want and so can we, but until a team beats Cross it doesn't matter one bit.
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This just sums you up as a person son! The Clans won the league 2 years ago as easy as Cross have won it this year. The year before they won division 2 with a record no. of points. (No Big Deal) They also won 4 or 5 leagues in a row around the 2002 mark - yet all you can remember is the year they got relegated! ;D ;D. Shows how much of a bullshitter you are lad.

Also what you said at they end is exactly what I said in my argument. League titles were not supposed to be any sort of substitution for Cross' dominance in the championship, it isnt even a great consolation. The point of it was to show that outside of the Cross the Clans are the most decorated team of recent times. FACT. This includes your club and before you start mentioning beaten finalists or any of that shite save it. Reaching a final does not get you a medal. Wining an 18 game league competition does!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 30, 2008, 03:04:11 PM
Quote from: full back on July 30, 2008, 01:49:40 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 30, 2008, 01:01:10 PM
You can win all the lkeagues you want and so can we, but until a team beats Cross it doesn't matter one bit.

Case closed


P.S son, ill decide when the case gets closed!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 30, 2008, 03:05:58 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 30, 2008, 03:02:06 PM
Of course you mention that you have won x number of times over the last few years, I don't remeber to be honest. I remeber Cross winning this year, us a few years ago and Cullyhanna the year before. The only thing I rememvber about Clanns and the league is that you got relegated recently. Not being rude, just honest. You can win all the lkeagues you want and so can we, but until a team beats Cross it doesn't matter one bit.

. Shows how much of a bullshitter you are lad.

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LikeI said not bullshitting, just being honest. I am also being honest in saying that I would not even be 100percent on the year we won it.

Als oyou pointed out that Dromintee used to be in the lower division and now they are wrong because they don't go full throtle for the league (which is a lie by the way). May I ask you does it bother you that Armagh do the same?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 30, 2008, 03:28:28 PM
No lad it doesnt as I said in my initial point I was not campaigning for the importance of the league. Plus the national league is used more and more as trial matches by the bigger counties, this is less so in club football. I would be of the opinion that you cant really compare the two, however I take your point.
I also believe your point about not remembering the year Dromintee won it. I work with Clans ones and I remember having to inform them on a Monday that their team had won the league the previous day. Even this was treated with distain and a who cares attitude. I know for a fact that they would swap all 8 leagues for one championship without thinking twice.
My point is this however, my club certainly wouldnt need reminded about winning league titles or any other kind cause no matter what the competion, if we were in with a shout of winning it the whole club would be in a frenzy for weeks. This tells you how often we win things. The same is for the rest of Armagh unfortunately, whether you agree or not. Outside of Cross and Clans and maybe another, trophies are at an absolute premium with many clubs going decades without any silverware. Thats the exact reason why I cant understand people undermining the winning of a league title!  ??? ??? As ive said this is 1 of only 2 available trophies each year!! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 30, 2008, 03:36:47 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 30, 2008, 03:04:11 PM
Quote from: full back on July 30, 2008, 01:49:40 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 30, 2008, 01:01:10 PM
You can win all the lkeagues you want and so can we, but until a team beats Cross it doesn't matter one bit.

Case closed


P.S son, ill decide when the case gets closed!

I do the deciding around here saan not you. What is you're club? you're not a clans man yet you know everything about them and their history. Prob Hairy Og or St Peters :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 30, 2008, 03:47:25 PM
[I do the deciding around here saan not you. What is you're club? you're not a clans man yet you know everything about them and their history. Prob Hairy Og or St Peters :D
[/quote]

My club is my business. I have more fun people not knowing it means I can be impartial when needs be. I know alot about the Clans cause my two best friends are Clans ones, I also work with some of your lot and I followed them in the 80's and early 90's. Does this satisfy you son?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 30, 2008, 04:01:32 PM
So boring ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 30, 2008, 04:09:44 PM
Once again the glipe known as pints as buted into another discussion without actually giving an opinion on the issue at hand. Says a  lot about that guy. Have an opinion pints and quit sniping at other people who have the taws for a proper debate.

I think now corn you are beginning to argue the point that i was making to you all along. That point was that Dromintee cannot be considered the seconds best or the best challengers to cross because they simply have won nothing. In the same way as Clans, Harps , Ogs etc cannot be considered in this role. Getting beat in the championship semi's and finals doesn't count for nothing as you like ourselves haven't won anything in terms of championships.

Doire you say that the clans haven't beaten Dromintee either and this is correct but we sure didn't play them every year in the championship. We have only played Dromintee three times in the championship over the last 13 years. The fact that we have came second to them does this make us their nearest challengers??? Of course not. If we looked at the the roll of honour for Armagh senior football over the last 12 years we would firstly see a massive list of cross for the championship we would see 1 Dromintee league 1 mullaghbawn 1 cullyhanna 7 Clan Na Gael and the rest are probably cross. That is what any outsider would see if they examined the roll of Honour of Armagh football. They wouldn't see any runner up places or beaten semi finalists. Now i am not sitting here claiming that the clans have been the nearest rivals to the cross. I am merely saying all teams are the nearest challengers because no one has beaten them. Some teams may be more capable than others but they are certainly no nearer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 30, 2008, 04:43:46 PM
Quote from: crossfire on July 30, 2008, 04:01:32 PM
So boring ::) ::)


Then f**k off somewhere else son! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on July 30, 2008, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: crossfire on July 30, 2008, 04:01:32 PM
So boring ::) ::)

Agreed!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 30, 2008, 05:03:52 PM
I love the way that every so often there is this crazy row over who is the second best team in Armagh(snigger,snigger)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 30, 2008, 05:22:00 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 30, 2008, 03:04:11 PM
Quote from: full back on July 30, 2008, 01:49:40 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 30, 2008, 01:01:10 PM
You can win all the lkeagues you want and so can we, but until a team beats Cross it doesn't matter one bit.

Case closed


P.S son, ill decide when the case gets closed!

You decide then ::)
This 'debate' has been running for f**king ages.......
If some team get beat by Cross this year can they join the debate?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 30, 2008, 06:20:41 PM
QuoteThe year before they won division 2 with a record no. of points. (No Big Deal)

How many points did Clans drop in their year in division 2?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 30, 2008, 08:29:40 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 30, 2008, 03:28:28 PM
No lad it doesnt as I said in my initial point I was not campaigning for the importance of the league. Plus the national league is used more and more as trial matches by the bigger counties, this is less so in club football. I would be of the opinion that you cant really compare the two, however I take your point.
I also believe your point about not remembering the year Dromintee won it. I work with Clans ones and I remember having to inform them on a Monday that their team had won the league the previous day. Even this was treated with distain and a who cares attitude. I know for a fact that they would swap all 8 leagues for one championship without thinking twice.
My point is this however, my club certainly wouldnt need reminded about winning league titles or any other kind cause no matter what the competion, if we were in with a shout of winning it the whole club would be in a frenzy for weeks. This tells you how often we win things. The same is for the rest of Armagh unfortunately, whether you agree or not. Outside of Cross and Clans and maybe another, trophies are at an absolute premium with many clubs going decades without any silverware. Thats the exact reason why I cant understand people undermining the winning of a league title!  ??? ??? As ive said this is 1 of only 2 available trophies each year!! 

Jesus man, a decent post for once. For the record I think your a Mullabrack man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2008, 08:43:44 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 30, 2008, 09:22:43 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 29, 2008, 11:27:11 PM
Rufus, is there anyway you could make the Harps thread in to the Clans thread and they could all stay over there and we'll carry on here?
(Not that I can speak anything because I don't live in the country anymore)

Hi pints you should take another 2 of those F**k off tablets you took a few weeks back.

P.S. give that tube of a ref (R Quigley) a couple from the bridge as well ;)

Slabber slabber

Winsam
Quote
Once again the glipe known as pints as buted into another discussion without actually giving an opinion on the issue at hand. Says a  lot about that guy. Have an opinion pints and quit sniping at other people who have the taws for a proper debate.

Slabber Slabber Slabber

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2008, 08:44:47 PM
Quote from: downtown on July 30, 2008, 04:54:23 PM
Quote from: crossfire on July 30, 2008, 04:01:32 PM
So boring ::) ::)

Agreed!

Agree too, boring as f**k!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Dannymcfella on July 30, 2008, 08:53:25 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 30, 2008, 05:03:52 PM
I love the way that every so often there is this crazy row over who is the second best team in Armagh(snigger,snigger)

Second best only means your the best looser!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 30, 2008, 09:04:27 PM
Quote from: Dannymcfella on July 30, 2008, 08:53:25 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 30, 2008, 05:03:52 PM
I love the way that every so often there is this crazy row over who is the second best team in Armagh(snigger,snigger)

Second best only means your the best looser!!

In that case I'd say Clans win the losers competion by quite a bit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 30, 2008, 10:39:30 PM
That was almost an opinion on something pints well done you are improving
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 30, 2008, 11:46:14 PM
Jesus man, a decent post for once. For the record I think your a Mullabrack man.
[/quote]

No im a Lurgan man, just not a bluenose!

Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 30, 2008, 06:20:41 PM
QuoteThe year before they won division 2 with a record no. of points. (No Big Deal)

How many points did Clans drop in their year in division 2?


Just the 2 I think, 2 draws.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 31, 2008, 09:06:12 AM
I was over in Keady last night to watch junior c'ship game between Clady and Derrynoose, Philip Loughran was standing behind the wire with the spectators, does anyone know is that him finished or is he playing any ball at all, BTW derrynoose won by 5-6 points,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on July 31, 2008, 09:19:57 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 28, 2008, 01:04:03 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on July 28, 2008, 09:43:31 AM
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 27th JULY 2008


ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 15 13 2 0 28
Culloville 14 8 1 5 17
Pearse Og 13 6 3 4 15
Clan na Gael 14 6 3 5 15
St Patrick's 15 7 1 7 15
Dromintee 14 6 1 7 13
Mullaghbawn 15 5 2 8 12
Killeavey 14 5 1 8 11
Harps 15 4 2 9 10
Maghery 14 2 2 10 6

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 16 12 1 3 25
Carrickcruppen 16 10 1 5 21
St Michael's 16 9 1 6 19
Tir na nÓg 14 9 0 5 18
Clann Eireann 14 8 1 5 17
Granemore 15 8 0 7 16
Ballymacnab 14 6 1 7 13
Silverbridge 14 6 1 7 13
Wolfe Tone 14 6 0 8 12
Whitecross 15 4 0 11 8
An Port Mor 15 3 1 11 7
Keady 11 2 1 8 5

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Madden 14 11 2 1 24
St Paul's 15 11 1 3 23
Collegeland 16 10 2 4 22
Ballyhegan 14 8 0 6 16
Belleek 14 7 2 5 16
Annaghmore 15 8 0 7 16
St Peter's 14 5 2 7 12
Clonmore 14 4 3 7 11
Lissummon 15 5 3 7 13
Tullysaran 15 4 2 9 10
Grange 15 3 1 11 7
Crossmaglen II 13 1 2 10 4

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 14 13 1 0 27
Eire Og 15 10 1 4 21
Middletown 12 8 3 1 19
Forkhill 16 9 1 6 19
Derrynoose 13 9 0 4 18
Clady 13 6 2 5 14
O'Hanlon's 14 7 0 7 14
Corrinshego 14 4 1 9 9
Dorsey Emmett's 14 3 0 11 6
Mullaghbrack 15 3 1 11 7
Phelim Brady's 14 0 0 14 0

That table's is wrong Hank.  Killeavey have 13 points.  they have also played 15

Lads updated table on The offical Armagh website- I thik it may be slightly wrong at the bottom

Rank   Team Played W D L Points
1  (1)    Crossmaglen
         15  13  2  0  28 
2  (2)    Cullaville
         14  8  1  5  17 
3  (4)    St Patricks Cullyhanna
         15  8  1  6  17 
4  (3)    Clan na Gael
         14  6  3  5  15 
5  (5)    Pearse Og
         13  6  3  4  15 
6  (6)    Mullabawn
         15  5  2  8  12 
7  (8)    Killeavy
         15  5  1  9  11 
8  (7)    Dromintee
         14  5  1  8  11 
9  (9)    Harps
         15  4  2  9  10 
10  (10)    Maghery
         14  3  2  9  8 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 31, 2008, 09:23:03 AM
From OrchardCounty.com

ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 27th JULY 2008

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 15 13 2 0 28
Culloville 14 8 1 5 17
Pearse Og 13 6 3 4 15
Clan na Gael 14 6 3 5 15
St Patrick's 15 7 1 7 15
Dromintee 14 6 1 7 13
Killeavey 15 6 1 8 13
Mullaghbawn 15 5 2 8 12
Harps 15 4 2 9 10
Maghery 14 2 2 10 6

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 16 12 1 3 25
Carrickcruppen 16 10 1 5 21
St Michael's 16 9 1 6 19
Tir na nÓg 14 9 0 5 18
Clann Eireann 14 8 1 5 17
Granemore 15 8 0 7 16
Ballymacnab 14 6 1 7 13
Silverbridge 14 6 1 7 13
Wolfe Tone 14 6 0 8 12
Whitecross 15 4 0 11 8
An Port Mor 15 3 1 11 7
Keady 11 2 1 8 5

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Madden 14 11 2 1 24
St Paul's 15 11 1 3 23
Collegeland 16 10 2 4 22
Ballyhegan 14 8 0 6 16
Belleek 14 7 2 5 16
Annaghmore 15 8 0 7 16
Lissummon 15 5 3 7 13
St Peter's 14 5 2 7 12
Clonmore 14 4 3 7 11
Tullysaran 15 4 2 9 10
Grange 15 3 1 11 7
Crossmaglen II 13 1 2 10 4

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 14 13 1 0 27
Eire Og 15 10 1 4 21
Middletown 12 8 3 1 19
Forkhill 16 9 1 6 19
Derrynoose 13 9 0 4 18
Clady 13 6 2 5 14
O'Hanlon's 14 7 0 7 14
Corrinshego 14 4 1 9 9
Mullaghbrack 15 3 1 11 7
Dorsey Emmett's 14 3 0 11 6
Phelim Brady's 14 0 0 14 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 31, 2008, 09:28:26 AM
sent you a pm El cuervo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Blue is the colour on July 31, 2008, 11:24:17 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 27, 2008, 11:34:36 PM
I don't recall the clans failing to fulfill any fixtures this year so why would dromintee get the points for that game???? also i hear cullovile are being a shower of w ankers this weekend by refusing to call a game off away to the clans. One of the lads is gettiing married and them guys won't call it off. I would love to take it out on them in the championship but they are not even in it. But sure if that is the only way they can get two points at davitt then good luck to them.
The game is called off winsam so i believe an apology is in order!!! Also everyone knows that the club football runs the whole summer so if you book a wedding etc ders no point in complaining about other clubs not calling games off just to suite, not every club is as accommodating as us you know  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 31, 2008, 12:41:52 PM
I was reading the programme of the NFL game Armagh v Roscommon on the 16th March 2008 in which it listed an Armagh team of 1953 which won the Dr Lagan Cup. The goalkeeper was Brendan Murray.

Could someone please tell me what club he is from?

many thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 31, 2008, 12:59:41 PM
blue is the colour i will apologise indeed. But i still think a wee bit of common sense and a small bit of accomodating behaviour can exist within Armagh clubs over issues like this. After all we are all part of te one organisation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on July 31, 2008, 01:41:25 PM
When and where do the harps play the ogs this weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 31, 2008, 01:53:27 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on July 31, 2008, 01:41:25 PM
When and where do the harps play the ogs this weekend?

Abbey Park,  2 o'clock on sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on July 31, 2008, 02:23:38 PM
Cheers EL C, must try to take that one in?

What way do yous think it will go? Are the Armagh county men allowed to play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 31, 2008, 02:30:48 PM
I would say the Og's will probably do their neighbours a favour
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on July 31, 2008, 02:46:03 PM
Quote from: full back on July 31, 2008, 02:30:48 PM
I would say the Og's will probably do their neighbours a favour

You mean put them out of their misery?  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 31, 2008, 02:48:20 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on July 31, 2008, 02:23:38 PM
Cheers EL C, must try to take that one in?

What way do yous think it will go? Are the Armagh county men allowed to play.

I dunno what the story is with the county players.  1st 15 definitely won't be allowed to play.  as for the rest i couldn't really comment, we'll probably find out tomorrow night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on July 31, 2008, 03:19:32 PM
it should be a good game. always a big crowd at an ogs harps game. even more interesting now that nothing less than a win will do for the harps. cant see them staying up if they get beat cuz they will have to travel to the ogs the next match. i predict a tight tough game with some big hits but i think the ogs will just shade it.

Dromintee and killeavy will be interesting as well. the loser of this game will also be in massive trouble although dromintee do have a game in hand and if the harps are beat id say the 2 teams will be safe.

roll on the weekend for these eagerly awaited matches
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 31, 2008, 04:40:52 PM
I'm not sure how decisive this dromintee killeavy game will be this weekend as they both have a bit of breathing space after their recent good form. i suspect that a defeat for harps could be curtains though.

if all county players are ruled out that would surely favour harps (obviously any harps influence at county management level will have no bearing  :o). I also suspect that Killeavy will be too strong for our lads this week if there aren't any county players available.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 31, 2008, 07:50:05 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on July 31, 2008, 04:40:52 PM
I'm not sure how decisive this dromintee killeavy game will be this weekend as they both have a bit of breathing space after their recent good form. i suspect that a defeat for harps could be curtains though.

if all county players are ruled out that would surely favour harps (obviously any harps influence at county management level will have no bearing  :o). I also suspect that Killeavy will be too strong for our lads this week if there aren't any county players available.

aye the county management has a fierce harps connection. looks like mcdonnell has just taken his set up from when he was at harps along with him. there are some clowns runnin about tryin to look important.

last time ogs and harps were to play the county lads said they were gonna play for the ogs no matter what until county board stepped in and put the match off. this was outside 13 day rule though. harps have to win. dromintee v killeavy will be a great game, never much love lost there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2008, 07:57:04 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 30, 2008, 10:39:30 PM
That was almost an opinion on something pints well done you are improving

An opinion? 
I don't give a shite who the send best team in armagh is.  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 31, 2008, 08:15:15 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2008, 07:57:04 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 30, 2008, 10:39:30 PM
That was almost an opinion on something pints well done you are improving

An opinion? 
I don't give a shite who the send best team in armagh is.  :D

And you are laughing  :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2008, 08:23:31 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 31, 2008, 08:15:15 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 31, 2008, 07:57:04 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 30, 2008, 10:39:30 PM
That was almost an opinion on something pints well done you are improving

An opinion? 
I don't give a shite who the send best team in armagh is.  :D

And you are laughing  :D ;)

Ok you got me with a typo, well done
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 31, 2008, 11:53:28 PM
Quote from: bubbles on July 31, 2008, 03:19:32 PM
it should be a good game. always a big crowd at an ogs harps game. even more interesting now that nothing less than a win will do for the harps. cant see them staying up if they get beat cuz they will have to travel to the ogs the next match. i predict a tight tough game with some big hits but i think the ogs will just shade it.

Dromintee and killeavy will be interesting as well. the loser of this game will also be in massive trouble although dromintee do have a game in hand and if the harps are beat id say the 2 teams will be safe.

roll on the weekend for these eagerly awaited matches

I think the harps have never lost their
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 01, 2008, 08:14:21 AM
Quote from: fcuksake on July 31, 2008, 11:53:28 PM
Quote from: bubbles on July 31, 2008, 03:19:32 PM
it should be a good game. always a big crowd at an ogs harps game. even more interesting now that nothing less than a win will do for the harps. cant see them staying up if they get beat cuz they will have to travel to the ogs the next match. i predict a tight tough game with some big hits but i think the ogs will just shade it.

Dromintee and killeavy will be interesting as well. the loser of this game will also be in massive trouble although dromintee do have a game in hand and if the harps are beat id say the 2 teams will be safe.

roll on the weekend for these eagerly awaited matches

I think the harps have never lost their

There's a first time for everything!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 01, 2008, 08:26:58 AM
Quote from: fcuksake on July 31, 2008, 11:53:28 PM
Quote from: bubbles on July 31, 2008, 03:19:32 PM
it should be a good game. always a big crowd at an ogs harps game. even more interesting now that nothing less than a win will do for the harps. cant see them staying up if they get beat cuz they will have to travel to the ogs the next match. i predict a tight tough game with some big hits but i think the ogs will just shade it.

Dromintee and killeavy will be interesting as well. the loser of this game will also be in massive trouble although dromintee do have a game in hand and if the harps are beat id say the 2 teams will be safe.

roll on the weekend for these eagerly awaited matches

I think the harps have never lost their

Have never lost their what, way home from the pub, their minds, their virginity?  Just curious ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: offtheground on August 01, 2008, 12:49:23 PM
Lads,
Whats the story with John Toal , the lad that had that wile knee injury a few years back and was doing a trojan job to get back to full fitness? How's he getting on, is he playing footbal again? I remember reading his story on his rehabilitation.... it was inspirational stuff.
On a side note, does he still keep in contact with Paul Galvin? ;) :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 01, 2008, 02:37:45 PM
Quote from: offtheground on August 01, 2008, 12:49:23 PM
Lads,
Whats the story with John Toal , the lad that had that wile knee injury a few years back and was doing a trojan job to get back to full fitness? How's he getting on, is he playing footbal again? I remember reading his story on his rehabilitation.... it was inspirational stuff.
On a side note, does he still keep in contact with Paul Galvin? ;) :P


I worked with Big John Toal last year - He is no longer playing any football he made it back to club football but everytime he played a match his leg swelled up like a balloon- He has since retired.  He was very lucky not to lose his leg.  As for paul Galvin we all know what sort of boyo he is- w-nker
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on August 01, 2008, 02:49:45 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 01, 2008, 02:37:45 PM
Quote from: offtheground on August 01, 2008, 12:49:23 PM
Lads,
Whats the story with John Toal , the lad that had that wile knee injury a few years back and was doing a trojan job to get back to full fitness? How's he getting on, is he playing footbal again? I remember reading his story on his rehabilitation.... it was inspirational stuff.
On a side note, does he still keep in contact with Paul Galvin? ;) :P


I worked with Big John Toal last year - He is no longer playing any football he made it back to club football but everytime he played a match his leg swelled up like a balloon- He has since retired.  He was very lucky not to lose his leg.  As for paul Galvin we all know what sort of boyo he is- w-nker

sad to hear that, JT put so much work into trying to get back from that horrific injury, sorry to hear can no longer play the sport he loved! i am sure it was wrecking his head watching those 2 Ulster Finals!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 01, 2008, 08:12:30 PM
Who won the North Armagh under 16 championship.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sean og on August 02, 2008, 08:36:44 AM
Any reports on the matches last night with An port mor
and on Collegeland in the championship ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 02, 2008, 08:48:01 AM
Quote from: sean og on August 02, 2008, 08:36:44 AM
Any reports on the matches last night with An port mor
and on Collegeland in the championship ?

an port mor 1 06 sarsfields 1 12

Blackwater had 2 men sent off

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 03, 2008, 04:57:10 PM
So how did the big derby go?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on August 03, 2008, 05:45:29 PM
!0-9 to Killeavy,

Report Later

Stansfield is a tr**p of the highest degree!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 03, 2008, 06:41:40 PM
Come on lads get the results in
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 03, 2008, 06:43:53 PM
Harps 0-6    Pearse Ogs 0-12
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 03, 2008, 07:01:39 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 03, 2008, 06:43:53 PM
Harps 0-6    Pearse Ogs 0-12

How does that leave Harps now?  They must be near down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 03, 2008, 07:09:30 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 03, 2008, 07:01:39 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 03, 2008, 06:43:53 PM
Harps 0-6    Pearse Ogs 0-12

How does that leave Harps now?  They must be near down.

they've 2 games left one against us and one against maghery i think.  they're sitting on 10 points, 2 behind mullaghbawn so it's not over yet.  Was mullaghbawn playing Cross today? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 03, 2008, 07:11:54 PM
I don't know, must give the mammy a ring.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 03, 2008, 07:14:41 PM
Tullysaran beat Dorsey Emmett's by 14 points in the championship

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 03, 2008, 07:39:47 PM
Wasn't at the game but Cullyhanna beat Maghery handy enough I'm told.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 03, 2008, 07:45:52 PM
Dromintee 0.9 - Killeavey 0.11

That leaves Killeavey safe on 15 points

Cullyhanna 2-12 Maghery 0-12

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 03, 2008, 09:20:19 PM
Grange beat Belleek and Middletown beat Shane O'Neill's in the Junior Championship this evening.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 03, 2008, 09:29:25 PM
Cross beat Mullaghbawn comfortably , so I was told.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 03, 2008, 09:30:41 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 03, 2008, 09:29:25 PM
Cross beat Mullaghbawn comfortably , so I was told.
anyone sick or dead that I should know about?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 03, 2008, 09:34:06 PM
My wee nephew is sick as he just cut a eye tooth, but apart from that no one that I heard off :P  The mammy was in bed and my sister was in half asleep too so very little news.  Ring home yerself you insociable baxtard ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 03, 2008, 09:44:39 PM
Ring home? I was rang twice today to be told about my brother being drunk.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on August 03, 2008, 10:54:29 PM
And the one you've all been waiting for.....

Mullabrack beat O'Hanlons.

Probably served O'Hanlons right as Mullabrack wanted the match called off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 04, 2008, 08:35:57 AM
Updated Division 1 Table


ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 16 14 2 0 30
Culloville 14 8 1 5 17
Pearse Og 14 7 3 4 17
St Patrick's 16 8 1 7 17
Clan na Gael 14 6 3 5 15
Killeavey 16 7 1 8 15
Dromintee 15 6 1 8 13
Mullaghbawn 16 5 2 9 12
Harps 16 4 2 10 10    ;D
Maghery 15 2 2 11 6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Abble on August 04, 2008, 10:40:54 AM
anyone have the draw for the next round of the junior c'ship ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on August 04, 2008, 11:24:30 AM
Middletown got Corrinshego, not sure about the rest.  think its up on Orchardcounty
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaa.boy on August 04, 2008, 11:34:12 AM
Who do Mullabawn have to play in their last two league games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on August 04, 2008, 11:56:27 AM
I would say that that is the harps down now. The ogs will beat them again and maghery could take points off them. mullabawn will be looking over their shoulder but think they will be alright. although they could still stay up. whats peoples opinions of the club championship matches. they could go ahead even if armagh win because the semi finals would not be for another 2 weeks after.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 04, 2008, 01:43:48 PM
Quarter Final Draw :

Middletown v Corrinshego
Eire Og v Tullysaran
Mullabrack v Forkhill
Grange v Derrynoose
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 04, 2008, 03:55:33 PM
Senior & IFC championships have been postponed until County team exits AI(games a fortnight after), some games may be played where no county men are involved. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 04, 2008, 06:22:07 PM
Quote
Senior & IFC championships have been postponed until County team exits AI(games a fortnight after), some games may be played where no county men are involved. 

I don't think they should play any Intermediate quarter finals until all the first round games have been played.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 04, 2008, 06:50:35 PM
Mullaghbawn play Clans at home and Cullovile away - we are short at min in regards players...Mark quinn emigrating to OZ was a big blow to us
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 04, 2008, 06:57:31 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on August 04, 2008, 06:50:35 PM
Mullaghbawn play Clans at home and Cullovile away - we are short at min in regards players...Mark quinn emigrating to OZ was a big blow to us

It will be a close finish then.  that's two tough games for mullaghbawn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 04, 2008, 07:30:56 PM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 10 AUGUST 2008


Friday 8 August

ACL – Division Two (7.30)
Clann Eireann v Keady (Brendan Gorman)
Wolfe Tone v Tir na nÓg (Ger Devlin)

ACL – Division Three (7.30)
Crossmaglen II v Belleek (Malachy McNicholl)
St Peter's v Clonmore (Jimmy McKee)

ACL – Division Four (7.30)
Eire Og v Dorsey Emmett's (Damian McConville)
Middletown v Clady (Oliver Hearty)


Sunday 10 August

'B' Championship Final (7.00)
Granemore v Sarsfields (Henry McCloy) at Abbey Park

Under-16 Championship Final (5.30)
Clann Eireann v Crossmaglen (Patrick Duffy) at Abbey Park

ACL – Division One (2.00)
Crossmaglen v Culloville (Eamon Nugent)
Maghery v Pearse Og (Kevin Murtagh)
Dromintee v Clan na Gael (Kevin McNeice)

ACL – Division Two (2.00)
Ballymacnab v Tir na nÓg (Rory Robinson)
An Port Mor v Whitecross (Barney Henry)
Granemore v Keady (Off)
Carrickcruppen v St Michael's (Paudie Hughes)
Wolfe Tone v Sarsfields (Off)
Clann Eireann v Silverbridge (Malachy McNicholl)

ACL – Division Three (2.00)
St Paul's v Grange (Noel Martin)
Belleek v Tullysaran (Brendan Gorman)
Clonmore v Madden (Mickey Leonard)
Annaghmore v St Peter's (Stephen Murray)
Ballyhegan v Lissummon (Damian McConville)
Collegeland v Crossmaglen II (Oliver Hearty)

ACL – Division Four (2.00)
Dorsey Emmett's v Forkhill (Stephen McKinley)
Derrynoose v Middletown (Jim Burns)
Clady v O'Hanlon's (Jim Slevin)
Mullaghbrack v Phelim Brady's (Paul Boylan)
Corrinshego v Shane O'Neill's (Jimmy McKee)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 05, 2008, 08:24:47 AM
Cheers El C!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 05, 2008, 10:59:23 AM
I'm assuming county players will be available to their clubs on Sunday???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 05, 2008, 12:00:09 PM

Should be theoretically
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 05, 2008, 12:14:44 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 05, 2008, 10:59:23 AM
I'm assuming county players will be available to their clubs on Sunday???

Not if Armagh win on Saturday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 05, 2008, 12:30:24 PM

Yes - three weeks til the semi
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 05, 2008, 02:09:58 PM
In regards to Mr Ronan Quigley i have always kept fairly quiet however in reguards to what has progressed over the last number of weeks i feel that i can keep my silence no longer.  Thank the lord we have seen the last of him now as like Crossmaglen he will no longer be refereeing any of our matches......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 05, 2008, 03:22:51 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on August 05, 2008, 02:09:58 PM
In regards to Mr Ronan Quigley i have always kept fairly quiet however in reguards to what has progressed over the last number of weeks i feel that i can keep my silence no longer.  Thank the lord we have seen the last of him now as like Crossmaglen he will no longer be refereeing any of our matches......

How did you manage that Real? Is it because you are a big club?
I know a few clubs who would enjoy the same privilage?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 05, 2008, 03:37:44 PM
nah fullback nothin to do wit that, no one is talkin here about big clubs......

The incident arose from our abondone game with cullovile.....

One of our players received a broken leg in the game, putting him out of work for 6 months.  When the incident happend mr quigley tried to get him and our physio off the pitch and get the game back on.  The player was in obvious agony, but no pity from Mr Quigley, however when an ambulance was called for and mr quigley finally saw the seriousness of the situation he gave Mullaghbawn penalty and sent off the cullovile goalkepper... however the ambulance took 40 mins to come and the player could not be moved so game was called off....

What i am annoyed about was in his match report he accused our manager of head butting him and shoulder charging him...this consequently left him with a two year ban from the county board. 

The culloville goalkeeper as far as i know received a 4month ban.  From a mullaghbawn point of view we feel that this was harse on the keeper.  He and his chairman both travelled to the Royal to see Rory mcdonnell during his week in hospital.


But the thing is lads......The match was being videoed and the incident shows very very clearly that Mr quigley was telling porkies (SURPRISE SURPRISE)....no head butt or shoulder charge was shown...it was lies from Quigley...and finally this so called excuse of a referee has been shown up for what he really is....and lets be honest it has been coming to him, would we all not agree??? ;D

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 05, 2008, 03:48:16 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on August 05, 2008, 03:37:44 PM
nah fullback nothin to do wit that, no one is talkin here about big clubs......

The incident arose from our abondone game with cullovile.....

One of our players received a broken leg in the game, putting him out of work for 6 months.  When the incident happend mr quigley tried to get him and our physio off the pitch and get the game back on.  The player was in obvious agony, but no pity from Mr Quigley, however when an ambulance was called for and mr quigley finally saw the seriousness of the situation he gave Mullaghbawn penalty and sent off the cullovile goalkepper... however the ambulance took 40 mins to come and the player could not be moved so game was called off....

What i am annoyed about was in his match report he accused our manager of head butting him and shoulder charging him...this consequently left him with a two year ban from the county board. 

The culloville goalkeeper as far as i know received a 4month ban.  From a mullaghbawn point of view we feel that this was harse on the keeper.  He and his chairman both travelled to the Royal to see Rory mcdonnell during his week in hospital.


But the thing is lads......The match was being videoed and the incident shows very very clearly that Mr quigley was telling porkies (SURPRISE SURPRISE)....no head butt or shoulder charge was shown...it was lies from Quigley...and finally this so called excuse of a referee has been shown up for what he really is....and lets be honest it has been coming to him, would we all not agree??? ;D


real I and most of the county agrees with you- He needs to be put out of football before he gets somebody killed.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 05, 2008, 03:58:33 PM

i trust Mullaghbawn will have a well prepared appeal coming in due course?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on August 05, 2008, 04:03:22 PM
Doesnt surprise me at all and just shows some of the idiots that are refereeing at the top level in Armagh. We had  a similar situation at our game vs Pearse Ogs where our so called county referee(self-appointed authority on justice for all clubs and players that he doesnt like) refused our manager the chance to attend to our player Paul Toner who was very seriously injured at the time. Our physio who approached him at half time about the incident the venerable MR Hughes proceeded to lecture him with his finger pointing in his face. Our man said something along the lines of F-off back to him he abandoned the match and requested an escort back to his car even though nobody went next or near him. Result two points lost, fine for the club and physio suspended for 12 months. Well done Paidi the suspension is as long as our player could possibly be out of football. I notice that he didnt abandon the tyrone game when Brian Mc Guigan approached him at half time in the westmeath game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on August 05, 2008, 04:06:08 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on August 05, 2008, 03:37:44 PM
nah fullback nothin to do wit that, no one is talkin here about big clubs......

The incident arose from our abondone game with cullovile.....

One of our players received a broken leg in the game, putting him out of work for 6 months.  When the incident happend mr quigley tried to get him and our physio off the pitch and get the game back on.  The player was in obvious agony, but no pity from Mr Quigley, however when an ambulance was called for and mr quigley finally saw the seriousness of the situation he gave Mullaghbawn penalty and sent off the cullovile goalkepper... however the ambulance took 40 mins to come and the player could not be moved so game was called off....

What i am annoyed about was in his match report he accused our manager of head butting him and shoulder charging him...this consequently left him with a two year ban from the county board. 

The culloville goalkeeper as far as i know received a 4month ban.  From a mullaghbawn point of view we feel that this was harse on the keeper.  He and his chairman both travelled to the Royal to see Rory mcdonnell during his week in hospital.


But the thing is lads......The match was being videoed and the incident shows very very clearly that Mr quigley was telling porkies (SURPRISE SURPRISE)....no head butt or shoulder charge was shown...it was lies from Quigley...and finally this so called excuse of a referee has been shown up for what he really is....and lets be honest it has been coming to him, would we all not agree??? ;D



some thing needs to be done about the standard of refereeing overall in the country! in our game last friday, our full back got a box in the mouth, and went down in a heap. the ref neither went over to the umpires to find out what happened or if they had seen anything, or to our player to see if he was alright. he just stood on the 45 not wanting anything to do with it. i would have assumed it was his responsibility to do bothof these things. i also found out after the game that he didn't even want it to go ahead. it was due to start at 7.00, but he sat in his car watching us warm up, to see if we would leave the pitch due to the weather, and when he realised it was going to stop raining, and we weren't going anywhere, he finally managed to make it on to the pitch, at 7.30. he admitted his little secret to our players during the coin toss!! Twat!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 05, 2008, 04:11:29 PM
Oh yes we wil bring him to the book and about time too...i have heard too many stories about him......the man is in love with himself!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on August 05, 2008, 04:24:09 PM
lads i understand the frustration at some of the referees in armagh but what happens to our club football when noone volunteers to become a referee anymore due to the criticisim. There are no perfect referees out there. they all have their favourite teams and teams they do not like as they are only human. games are won and lost as a result of poor refereeing decisions but there is nothing we can do about it.

I didnt know that mark quinn was in oz and so my prediction of the harps goin down is not so clear cut. mullabawn have 2 tough games. if they lose both and the harps beat maghery and are beaten by the ogs then i assume there will be a playoff? if this is the case i believe the harps will beat mullabawn as they will not be forced to play such an important match without all their county players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 05, 2008, 04:32:17 PM

There are bad refs in every county and you just put up with it when it comes along.

however, there are two vindictive little hitlers in armagh football - quigley and Hughes. quigley has been nothing short of a disgrace for years now.
unfortunately hearty and thon big tube from clonmore think they should be the centre of attention too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 05, 2008, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: Uladh on August 05, 2008, 04:32:17 PM

There are bad refs in every county and you just put up with it when it comes along.

however, there are two vindictive little hitlers in armagh football - quigley and Hughes. quigley has been nothing short of a disgrace for years now.
unfortunately hearty and thon big tube from clonmore think they should be the centre of attention too.

Dont mind Ollie
What about that boy from Killeavey?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 05, 2008, 04:54:21 PM
The simple solution is to make them referee in different county's where they will have no favouritism (plus they will good mileage from the gaa ;)), this was spoke about before and it needs to happen more so in championship games where players seasons are finished if some balloon does not like his club or that individual for some reason or another.

Where is pints to defend Mr Quigley and to state he's the best ref in Armagh (take a red neck son)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on August 05, 2008, 05:29:14 PM
Quote from: full back on August 05, 2008, 04:48:19 PM
Quote from: Uladh on August 05, 2008, 04:32:17 PM

There are bad refs in every county and you just put up with it when it comes along.

however, there are two vindictive little hitlers in armagh football - quigley and Hughes. quigley has been nothing short of a disgrace for years now.
unfortunately hearty and thon big tube from clonmore think they should be the centre of attention too.

Dont mind Ollie
What about that boy from Killeavey?

In fairness to him, he is new and tries his best. Of course he is gonna make mistakes but i dont think he can be accused of bias or vindictiveness, which Quigley and Hughes so blatantly get turned on by.

That report by Real does not surprise me one bit. Only regret is that it has taken an unfortunate incident of a player sustaining a serious injury for him to be so publicly found out. I honestly believe that his ego and quest for a bit of control comes before any respect or thought for player well being.
I would also add that 99% of the referees in the county do an admirable job and long may they continue.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 05, 2008, 05:34:17 PM
Part of the duty of a ref is to remain impartial. So unlike some of the posters here who can find it in their hearts to forgive refs for having bias, I can't. It doesn't matter what they think of any club or individual player they should treat all with the same stick. But here was me again thinking it was only the "clans lads that cried about the rerferee's" Oh the sweat music.

Real lad i think you are living in a fantasy world. You see that appeal and the video you took. It will be argued that the incident in question was missed by the camera man and our fella Quigley will not even be questioned about the incident. If Quigley is challenged over the incident then the rest of the referees will meet in their secret society and they will decide like the muskateers to go on strike. Once they have achieved the all for one and one for all status, the higher power  :D :D "the county board"  :D :D will shite themselves and bow down to their recommendations. meanwhile the players and the lad that was seriously hurt will once again come out of it with egg on their faces. It is a disgrace real but what needs to happen is for all the clubs to get together and forward a separate set of recommendations for referees. the county board should then examine this with the referees and a code of conduct for both players and referees should be implemented right across the board. Then there will be guidlines set down for both players and refs. At the minute the disciplinary procedures all seem to be coming in one direction and all is takes is a muppet like quigley to tell a lie resulting in a lad or in some circumstances a team being severly punished or in the case of the bawn Injured. The issue needs to be addressed and soon before something really serious happens.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 05, 2008, 05:56:05 PM
Quoteour full back got a box in the mouth, and went down in a heap. the ref neither went over to the umpires to find out what happened or if they had seen anything, or to our player to see if he was alright.

In fairness, since both the umpires were probably from the clubs involved, there's not an awful lot of point in a referee asking their opinion, no doubt both will have an entirely different opinion, based solely on what would favour their own club.

Sounds like a disgrace what's happened to Mullaghban. If its true that the ref wsn't going to give a penalty until he saw how injured the player was, then that shows how incompetent he is.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 05, 2008, 06:21:42 PM
Killeavy beat Dromintee by two the other day - probably should have been a lot more but our keeper once again pulled off some fantastic saves.

Mark Stanfield is a danger to players, but I suspect he wouldn't try some of that shit if certain players were playing on teams.

Trying the hard act with a Dromintee player who just laughed at him the other day and against Mullaghabwn a few weeks back he was at it with probably the quietest boy on the Mbawn team which I am sure Real will verify.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 05, 2008, 07:30:17 PM
Yeah corn is rite...stanfield has waltzed in2 armagh club football and has acted the tr**p on several occasions...in both games against us this year i saw him punch, nip and verablly abuse players...not a likeable child at all...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on August 05, 2008, 07:45:53 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 05, 2008, 05:56:05 PM
Quoteour full back got a box in the mouth, and went down in a heap. the ref neither went over to the umpires to find out what happened or if they had seen anything, or to our player to see if he was alright.

In fairness, since both the umpires were probably from the clubs involved, there's not an awful lot of point in a referee asking their opinion, no doubt both will have an entirely different opinion, based solely on what would favour their own club.

Sounds like a disgrace what's happened to Mullaghban. If its true that the ref wsn't going to give a penalty until he saw how injured the player was, then that shows how incompetent he is.

that's not the point TAC, it is the fact he didn't bother to do either that annoys me!! of course the umpires would give their own accounts, but our player could have been very injured and the ref didn't seem to give a shite!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Minus15 on August 05, 2008, 08:31:13 PM
What age is Ollie Hearty?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 05, 2008, 08:39:52 PM
Yes I would
Quote
In fairness to him, he is new and tries his best. Of course he is gonna make mistakes but i dont think he can be accused of bias or vindictiveness, which Quigley and Hughes so blatantly get turned on by.
Come and watch a 'bridge match that Hearty is refereeing and you'll see plenty of bias.  Hadn't harps an issue with him in a couple of championship games a few years ago? Wasn't it against keady?

Patsmc - good to hear of the punishment dished out - a few more 12 month bans and yous will have got what yous deserve for what happened over the last few years - aren't you crying to the ulster council?



Oh and Stanfield is a diving, cheating, dirty ****.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 05, 2008, 09:17:14 PM
What did you guys expect Stanfield is a louth man and we all know what they are. Little football ability but will try and cheat and sneakily knock it into you. Another prime example is bus face donaldson. Was Donaldson born in Louth or Armagh ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 05, 2008, 09:19:24 PM
QuoteCome and watch a 'bridge match that Hearty is refereeing and you'll see plenty of bias.  Hadn't harps an issue with him in a couple of championship games a few years ago? Wasn't it against keady?

Patsmc - good to hear of the punishment dished out - a few more 12 month bans and yous will have got what yous deserve for what happened over the last few years - aren't you crying to the ulster council?

The irony of Pints complaining about somebody else "crying" shouldn't go unnoticed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on August 05, 2008, 09:21:38 PM
Pints i wasnt referring to Hearty but rather Mc Kinley the new fella from Killeavy who should be given every chance and encouragement to improve as a referee.

Im fairly sure Donaldson was born in Cullyhanna, although he has obviously picked up a few tricks from his time in Louth
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 05, 2008, 09:23:21 PM
QuotePints i wasnt referring to Hearty
Ah right, took you up wrong.


Tac - are yous not crying to the ulster council on this one?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on August 05, 2008, 09:56:29 PM
We are only interested in getting justice served and not the type administered by Micky Maillie and Co.

By the way I have never had any problems with Ronan Quigley as a referee and although he can make wrong decisions i have never found him on a personal level to be a bad fella. Then again he is from the bridge where only gentleman exist in their utopian world and where everyone is an authority on justice and what is the right thing to do. After all the bridge never get men sent off or abuse referees. In fact they are all students of the rules of the GAA all pleasant sociable chaps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 05, 2008, 10:05:19 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on August 05, 2008, 09:56:29 PM
We are only interested in getting justice served and not the type administered by Micky Maillie and Co.

By the way I have never had any problems with Ronan Quigley as a referee and although he can make wrong decisions i have never found him on a personal level to be a bad fella. Then again he is from the bridge where only gentleman exist in their utopian world and where everyone is an authority on justice and what is the right thing to do. After all the bridge never get men sent off or abuse referees. In fact they are all students of the rules of the GAA all pleasant sociable chaps.

Justice?  :D

A half a dozen more 12 month bans and justice will be served. 
Yous will get your comeuppance, all c**ts do at some stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on August 05, 2008, 10:29:41 PM
oh to be born at the other end of the parish where everybody is a s good as gold. By the way I lined out for the bridge a few times meself many years ago. I wish i had stayed and become as upright a citizen as yourself.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 05, 2008, 10:33:47 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on August 05, 2008, 10:29:41 PM
oh to be born at the other end of the parish where everybody is a s good as gold. By the way I lined out for the bridge a few times meself many years ago. I wish i had stayed and become as upright a citizen as yourself.
What are you talking about, no one is saying the 'bridge is filled with angels  ::)

I can't say we, or any other club, would match Cullyhanna in the **** stakes though.
Give yourselves a slap on the back for that one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaa.boy on August 05, 2008, 11:23:50 PM
I could be wrong here, but was it not Mr Quigley who couldnt even count up the score correctly in the Culloville v Harps match a few months back? He called a draw even though both teams and the local radio station that were commentating had the Harps down as victors by 1 point.
That "dropped" point could cost the Harps dearly now!!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 06, 2008, 07:48:35 AM
Doubt it GAA.BOY,

Harps look to be going down and i dont think a point will be the difference

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 06, 2008, 09:26:14 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 05, 2008, 10:05:19 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on August 05, 2008, 09:56:29 PM
We are only interested in getting justice served and not the type administered by Micky Maillie and Co.

By the way I have never had any problems with Ronan Quigley as a referee and although he can make wrong decisions i have never found him on a personal level to be a bad fella. Then again he is from the bridge where only gentleman exist in their utopian world and where everyone is an authority on justice and what is the right thing to do. After all the bridge never get men sent off or abuse referees. In fact they are all students of the rules of the GAA all pleasant sociable chaps.

Justice?  :D

A half a dozen more 12 month bans and justice will be served. 
Yous will get your comeuppance, all c**ts do at some stage.

Have you had yours yet ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 06, 2008, 09:34:47 AM
The Culloville v Harps ref was Viincent O'Neill.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on August 06, 2008, 11:45:35 AM
followin on frm the controversial decisions frm refs in the cnty since the strt of the season i am thinkin of strtin a poll 4 the ref who wnts the limelight the mst (i didn say the worst, but u can take it this way if u wnt)

am only goin to include refs who deserve it
nme the refs u wnt in the poll
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Malone Aristocrat on August 06, 2008, 12:27:45 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on August 05, 2008, 05:29:14 PM
In fairness to him (hearty), he is new and tries his best.

He is not new and is one of the worst.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on August 06, 2008, 01:23:02 PM
read previous posts mo chara. I was referring to MC KINLEY!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: celtic on August 06, 2008, 01:43:36 PM
 during dromintee and killeavy match at weekend he was doing linesman. he give killeavy 2 line balls that were clearly dromintees. how is he ever going to get respect from players when he is at that sort of shit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on August 06, 2008, 02:10:05 PM
if im rite, mckinley was suspended 4 a few mths at strt of year.
wnder wot that wuz 4 ???
mckinley,quigly,hughes ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 06, 2008, 02:59:21 PM
If you are having a poll get them all into it they all have tendencies that annoy me. Albeit some more than others.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on August 06, 2008, 04:06:12 PM
Sssssshhh Folks... Dont be talking about Referees,

You might annoy Rufus!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 06, 2008, 04:34:28 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 06, 2008, 07:48:35 AM
Doubt it GAA.BOY,

Harps look to be going down and i dont think a point will be the difference

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And isnt it great to see Division 1 shall be all the better within them bye bye :-* :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on August 06, 2008, 04:42:34 PM
Quote from: celtic on August 06, 2008, 01:43:36 PM
during dromintee and killeavy match at weekend he was doing linesman. he give killeavy 2 line balls that were clearly dromintees. how is he ever going to get respect from players when he is at that sort of shit.

shudnt be let outta house let alone take charge of a football match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on August 06, 2008, 05:02:28 PM
Seems to be quite an anti harps vibe coming from the thread? Any paticular reason? :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 06, 2008, 06:36:50 PM
Cant see it myself   ;)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sean og on August 06, 2008, 08:25:47 PM
Was looking at the armagh pages and was wondering how
the moderator allows personal abuse towards referees to be
published on this site.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 06, 2008, 08:54:43 PM
There you go now lads this post will be flagged up now because of personal abuse (that's a cert). Young sean must be a ref because he has went to the other side.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on August 06, 2008, 09:01:24 PM
Hi lads,

Yep, you guessed right winsamsoon, but it's not personal abuse per se., it's Rule 2 - Libellous or insulting posts about a real person, including GAA people who might read this site, or have friends who do so.

Referees are fair game for the same sort of comment as is acceptable for players, i.e. feel free to comment on their abilities or otherwise, but calling a referee a 'cheat' is simply not on, and is a serious allegation. Many referees are useless, stone useless, but in all fairness, to call a man a cheat is over the top.

Cheers

(retreats into shadows)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 06, 2008, 09:11:23 PM
Told ya lads.

Good lad sean you new person you.

hardstation the old spreads is brutal for me at the moment lad, plus i missed one week which didn't help.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 06, 2008, 09:13:05 PM
So the way to get round the ref issue is to include the word abilties before each statement  ;) ;) just messin.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 06, 2008, 09:15:38 PM
Correct lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2008, 09:44:46 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 06, 2008, 09:11:23 PM
Told ya lads.

Good lad sean you new person you.


Mod3, can we have some rule against slabbering?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gaaboardmod3 on August 06, 2008, 10:00:23 PM
Also meant to add, if you feel a post is out of order, please report it. Don't be on here giving out, there's hundreds of threads, and thousands of posts on this site, we can't see them all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on August 06, 2008, 10:16:56 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 06, 2008, 04:34:28 PM
And isnt it great to see Division 1 shall be all the better within them bye bye :-* :-*

Just wading through the bomb site that is your 'use of english'.   

Appears to be some sort of attempt at a snide remark, but we'll probably never know for sure!   :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 06, 2008, 10:21:46 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on August 06, 2008, 10:16:56 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 06, 2008, 04:34:28 PM
And isnt it great to see Division 1 shall be all the better within them bye bye :-* :-*

Just wading through the bomb site that is your 'use of english'.   

Appears to be some sort of attempt at a snide remark, but we'll probably never know for sure!   :-*

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 06, 2008, 10:33:16 PM
Not often the mods come in here :o

Some of the stuff said is OTT & personal, but you have to be able to analyse a referee's performance & if it is sh1te you should be allowed to say so. This is half the problem IMHO - referee's doing what they want whenever they want & they dont seem to be answerable to anyone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on August 06, 2008, 10:55:07 PM
Quote from: Whacker on August 06, 2008, 04:06:12 PM
Sssssshhh Folks... Dont be talking about Referees,

You might annoy Rufus!

I haven't seen anything here that would compare to your own personal outbursts Whacker, but hey, if you're that desperate to, feel free to let rip.

Personal abuse of referees would fit right into what passes for Armagh GAA discussion here!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 07, 2008, 12:04:09 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 06, 2008, 09:44:46 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 06, 2008, 09:11:23 PM

Mod3, can we have some rule against slabbering?

I see your debating skills are coming on pints you have even managed sarcasm. Serioulsy though i never thought i would see a post from you with the word "slabbering" or any reference to slabbering in it. A little bit of pot calling kettle black.

The way i see these things lads i am an adult and am well aware of what i am saying. I can also take on the chin what others are saying  an give as good as i get. I think the majority of lads here are the same. However some whingers slabber all the time and then when they are getting a bit of flack they head to the moderator. I know the moderator has a tough job here to do and i respect the rules they set but christ i have no time for the crawlers that report folk every second day because they have been called a name. It is banter and nothing personal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 07, 2008, 12:19:57 AM
Runai
The CCC have decided that in an effort to allow our players on the County Senior panel to give of their best to the county's quest for a second All Ireland title to withhold their clubs participation in our internal Intermediate and Senior championships until second week end after Armagh exit All Ireland competition. This will allow them to concentrate on county involvement without distraction re club and also give them two weeks to prepare with their clubs after county complete All Ireland involvement.

This involves three different potential starting dates.
.
Position A—County exits AI on w/e 9/10 August start Inter and Senior on 23/24 and 30/31 August with second Round on 13th/14th September, semi finals w/e 27/28 September Inter Final 12th Oct, Senior Final 19th Oct.

Position B—County exits AI on 31st August—Round 1 w/e 13/14 September Round 2 w/e 27/28 September, Semi Finals 4/5 October Finals Sat/Sun 18/19 October

Position C—most preferred position from county team aspect but worst from running off games—County team goes all the way—Round 1 w/e 4/5 Oct, Round 2 w/e 11/12 Oct, Semi finals w/e 18/19 Oct Finals w/e 25/26 Oct—this would lead to extra time being played at end of first game if needed as we would not have space for replays.

In all three positions where a game does not involve county panellists these games could be played on dates already in place.
Intermediate games already played
Senior games Clann Eireann v St.Michaels and Ballymacnab v Mullabawn both fixed for Saturday 16th August could stand. This would ease congestion of fixtures at a later date.

Position C has already been used when we won Sam in 2002 and was used again in 2003 Deferment has also been used in recent past

Back to top       

Where these problems not forseen at the start surely it would have been better to get at least the first round games over before these dates
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 07, 2008, 01:50:58 PM
Ah were use to it by now Win. Persoannly I have no real problem with the delay. Not as if the weather will be any worse later in the year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 07, 2008, 06:05:54 PM
I understand its difficult for the County Board to take every circumstance into account, particularly given the number of variables but my major gripe would be the speed the leagues have been run off this year. I know that teams don't want to be playing leagues match much after September but the way its gone now, every player in our club bar one will only play one match between now and the 4th October were Armagh to win the All Ireland.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 08, 2008, 02:42:21 PM
Hey there corn i hope you lot have that burger festival ready for us guys on sunday afternoon ;), Barring any injuryies i take it you're 5 county men will be available for selection? I take you lot are safe anyway so you should not take you're frustration out on us ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 08, 2008, 03:26:18 PM
I'll not be present - other commitments. But I am sure there will be a full feed for the lads.

Eh dunno, personally I wouldn't be expecting MOR and AOR to play if they play 70 mins in Croker but I have no idea.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 08, 2008, 09:22:33 PM
tirnanog beat tones by 3.ref was terrible 4 both teams not sure who he was but any contact resulted in a free in!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 08, 2008, 11:01:27 PM
Was the referee Gerald Devlin from Armagh City by any chance?
He is one of our better referees.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 09, 2008, 04:29:39 PM
Championship in two weeks then lads
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BRIDGE LAD on August 09, 2008, 05:01:47 PM
Come on Wexford!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on August 09, 2008, 05:42:48 PM
w**ker

crupen beat newtown lst night
kdy on a roll now aftr beatin c eireann,they wil stay up.portmor an wcross playin 2moro,both will go dwn now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sean og on August 10, 2008, 11:37:32 AM
Seanie isn't a referee i couldnt hacket refs do make
mistakes but so also do players managers and club officials
but not many of them get personnal abuse.
Was at the match yesterday and to many players played way
below form but i will not personnally abuse them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 10, 2008, 02:46:59 PM
Culloville didnt turn up for their game against Cross today.
Apparently they texted our secretary 30  minutes before throw in time .

Eamon Nugent the referee from Maghery was already there.
Hardly good enough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PatDaly on August 10, 2008, 03:58:18 PM
Dromintee beat Clan na Gael today 1-11 to 1-10. Dromintee's place in division 1 is now secure. Marsden played some game for Clans.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 10, 2008, 04:07:55 PM
Normally when Armagh are beat in the chmapionship and our summer comes to an end it days me days to get over it but yesterday for some reason, it was different.  My disapointment was soon replaced with relief, especailly after watching the second game at croker yesterday.  We simply would not have got close to kerry on their curernt form. I am never one to critise the armagh team but lads we were realistically no where near an All-ireland this year.  When you compare this team to the 02 team we simply had not the players yesterday, not good enough. 

Our style of play has to change, we have too many men behind the ball, the sweeper sytem is very negative and the one key area which i felt needed to change last year still remains the same - our half forward line.  You cant not have MOR and vernon both on the half forward line.  At the moment the armagh brand of football is ugle to watch for the neutral and for ourselves it is nerve wreckin to watch because when we get a lead, we dont put teams away, but instead defend it.

Now i am not saying that i have the answers to all our problems but i feel it is not all doom and gloom.  there are still a good nucleus of players in the squad with some good young players coming through who will now have to get there chance.  After yesterday you would expect number of retirements most notably Bellew, McGrane, McNulty, Aidan O'R (who had a excellent year by the way) and McConnvile.  These men have gave so much to this team over the years and should be congratulated on this, but maybe the time now has come for them to move on and new lads to come in.

It is back to the drawing boar for peter and his backroom team and they have a ot of things to look at.  They delivered us an Ulster title this year which was unexpected but we all know expectations are now much greater within the county.  For next year i feel there are a couple of things that need to be changed...


1 Most importantly our style of play - no more sweeper system (man to man)
2. Introducing Donaghy at full back
3.New centre half back, maybe vernon?or McKeever moving in
4. Midfield partner for Toner.
5. New half forward line with the exception of MOR.
6.New corner forward.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 10, 2008, 05:17:43 PM
Pearse Ogs beat Maghery 1-12 to 0-14
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on August 10, 2008, 05:32:43 PM
why did ciaran mc keever not go full back yeasterday.WHAT A JOKE
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 10, 2008, 05:39:43 PM
Clans gameagain and the ref gave some dodgy decisions for both teams i think somtimes they have to use common sense. He booked Marsden for falling and he sent off the Dromintee full back for nothing much. Incredible again but sure we are well use to it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 10, 2008, 05:43:11 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 10, 2008, 05:39:43 PM
Clans gameagain and the ref gave some dodgy decisions for both teams i think somtimes they have to use common sense. He booked Marsden for falling and he sent off the Dromintee full back for nothing much. Incredible again but sure we are well use to it.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 10, 2008, 06:02:43 PM
No opinion
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 10, 2008, 06:04:28 PM
Is there ever a game Clans play in that the ref isn't out to get them?

Have to say winsam, you must be the only person who has ever come in contact with me and thinks I should offer my opinion more.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 10, 2008, 06:16:37 PM
So now that the disappointment of yesterday is behind us, where now for the Armagh championship?  When does it start and who plays who?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 10, 2008, 06:41:42 PM
Tell me where iaid he was just out to get the clans ????? I said both teams you muppet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 10, 2008, 07:09:32 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 10, 2008, 06:41:42 PM
Tell me where iaid he was just out to get the clans ????? I said both teams you muppet
No need for the abuse winsam, you're not in Davitt Park now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 10, 2008, 07:14:13 PM
How do you know where i am??

I know that Cross play Dromintee not sure on the rest of the fixtures
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 10, 2008, 08:07:58 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 10, 2008, 02:46:59 PM
Culloville didnt turn up for their game against Cross today.
Apparently they texted our secretary 30  minutes before throw in time .

Eamon Nugent the referee from Maghery was already there.
Hardly good enough.

Says on Aertel that it is a walkover for Cross
Could Culloville not field 15?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 10, 2008, 11:46:25 PM
QuoteSo now that the disappointment of yesterday is behind us, where now for the Armagh championship?  When does it start and who plays who?

Friggin hotshots with their All Ireland medal can't be bothered to look back a page where you'd have seen a very eloquent statement from our beloved county board. Unfortunately we're going for Plan A.

Championship in 2 or 3 weeks. Cross play Cullyhanna in the game everybody's looking forward to.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 10, 2008, 11:53:09 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 10, 2008, 11:46:25 PM
QuoteSo now that the disappointment of yesterday is behind us, where now for the Armagh championship?  When does it start and who plays who?

Friggin hotshots with their All Ireland medal can't be bothered to look back a page where you'd have seen a very eloquent statement from our beloved county board. Unfortunately we're going for Plan A.

Championship in 2 or 3 weeks. Cross play Cullyhanna in the game everybody's looking forward to.  ::)

Do I not deserve a small bit of pampering given my lofty status as an exiled head cahuna :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 10, 2008, 11:58:12 PM
Can someone post up the tables from orchardcounty?

What is going on with it? None of the forum pages will load correctly or it just takes you to a log in page - do you need to be a member to view?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on August 11, 2008, 12:25:11 AM
here ya go pint! and you do need to be a member!lol

ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 10th JULY 2008

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 17 15 2 0 32
Pearse Og 16 8 3 4 21
Culloville 15 8 1 6 17
St Patrick's 17 8 1 7 17
Clan na Gael 15 6 3 6 15
Dromintee 16 7 1 8 15
Killeavey 16 7 1 8 15
Mullaghbawn 16 5 2 9 12
Harps 16 4 2 10 10
Maghery 16 2 2 12 6

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 17 13 1 3 27
Tir na nÓg 17 12 0 5 24
Carrickcruppen 18 11 1 6 23
St Michael's 18 9 1 8 19
Granemore 16 9 0 7 18
Silverbridge 16 8 1 7 17
Clann Eireann 17 8 1 8 17
Ballymacnab 16 6 1 9 13
Wolfe Tone 15 6 0 9 12
Whitecross 16 5 0 11 10
An Port Mor 17 3 1 13 7
Keady 13 4 1 8 9

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Madden 16 13 2 1 28
St Paul's 17 12 1 4 25
Collegeland 17 10 2 5 22
Annaghmore 17 10 0 7 20
Belleek 16 8 3 5 19
Ballyhegan 15 9 0 6 18
St Peter's 17 6 3 8 15
Lissummon 16 5 3 8 13
Clonmore 17 4 3 10 11
Tullysaran 16 4 3 9 11
Grange 16 3 1 12 7
Crossmaglen II 16 2 3 11 7

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 15 14 1 0 29
Eire Og 16 11 1 4 23
Middletown 14 9 3 2 21
Derrynoose 14 10 0 4 20
Forkhill 16 9 1 6 19
Clady 15 7 2 6 16
O'Hanlon's 15 7 0 8 14
Corrinshego 15 4 1 10 9
Mullaghbrack 16 4 1 11 9
Dorsey Emmett's 15 3 0 12 6
Phelim Brady's 15 0 0 15 0

Edit: new info from bubbles!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 11, 2008, 12:28:23 AM
cheers leg-end
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 11, 2008, 08:02:35 AM
Ballyhegan defeated Lissumon yesterday in Ballyhegan Park. The score (I think...) was 2.08 - 0.08.
Although it was a lot more comfortable than the 6 points suggests!

If Paddy McKeever had the shooting boots with him, he could have scored more than Mattie Ford on Saturday! He lined out at centre forward & Paul Courtney in Full forward. Paul McGrane was in attendance.

Best for the Davitts was probably our midfield of Mel Courtney & Stephen Tiffney, though in defence Chris O'Carrol & Joey Murphy were fantastic!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on August 11, 2008, 09:17:04 AM
pearse ogs have got the points against cullyhanna. was announced at county board. they have played 16 and are on 21 points if this can be amended. cullyhanna also should be down for 1 more game played.

harps and mullabawn will be interesting to see who goes down
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 11, 2008, 11:18:48 AM
Lads just as a matter of interest what is the senior championship first round draw again?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 11, 2008, 11:34:04 AM
Ogs v Tir Na Npg
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 11, 2008, 11:46:50 AM
Harps v Cruppen

I also see we are down to play ogs away this weekend in the league, should be interesting, especially if Holmes as well as Vernon, Nippy & Toal are available.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 11, 2008, 11:58:57 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 11, 2008, 11:46:50 AM
Harps v Cruppen

I also see we are down to play ogs away this weekend in the league, should be interesting, especially if Holmes as well as Vernon, Nippy & Toal are available.

nippy was playing the last day.  should be an interesting match surely, clarke will be a welcome addition to us as well. lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 11, 2008, 12:08:48 PM
Senior Football Championship – 1st Round
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg
Clann Eireann v St Michael's
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn 
Carrickcruppen v Harps 
Killeavey v Maghery
Granemore v Whitecross
Crossmaglen v Dromintee

Clans a bye?
I would say the games might be played at the same venues & times as per the original fixtures except 1 week later
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 11, 2008, 01:00:04 PM
Hard to see Dromintee defeating Cross, but who knows?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on August 11, 2008, 01:28:36 PM
Predictions:

Senior Football Championship – 1st Round
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg - Hard to see Ogs getting beat, although Porty have had a good year. Ogs by 5
Clann Eireann v St Michael's  - Would fancy Newtown here, potential banana skin though, Newtown come through by 2
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn  - Mullaghbawn to win this one comfortably, possibly with a few goals to spare
Carrickcruppen v Harps  - Maybe wishful thinking, but with a full team i'll tip Harps to win by the minimum
Killeavey v Maghery - Killeavey have put together a reasonable run after a brutal start, with Stanfield and Stevie back, hard to see them stopped by Maghery... but have a sneaking suspicion Maghery will win by 3
Granemore v Whitecross - Two teams that I don't know much about, I'll take Granemore by 4
Crossmaglen v Dromintee - As nice as it would be for Dromintee to win, i'll take Cross by 10



For a bit of craic, Predict the Q-Final draw...

Mullaghbawn vs. Crossmaglen
Granemore vs. Harps
Maghery vs. Clan na Gael
Ogs vs. Newtown


Semi-finals...

Crossmaglen vs. Harps
Clan na Gael vs. Ogs.


Final

Crossmaglen vs. Ogs.


County Champions - Ogs..... surrrrrrrreee... Crossmaglen in the final by 6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 11, 2008, 01:35:08 PM
Quote from: nashville on August 11, 2008, 01:28:36 PM
Predictions:

Senior Football Championship – 1st Round
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg - Hard to see Ogs getting beat, although Porty have had a good year. Ogs by 5
Clann Eireann v St Michael's  - Would fancy Newtown here, potential banana skin though, Newtown come through by 2
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn  - Mullaghbawn to win this one comfortably, possibly with a few goals to spare
Carrickcruppen v Harps  - Maybe wishful thinking, but with a full team i'll tip Harps to win by the minimum
Killeavey v Maghery - Killeavey have put together a reasonable run after a brutal start, with Stanfield and Stevie back, hard to see them stopped by Maghery... but have a sneaking suspicion Maghery will win by 3
Granemore v Whitecross - Two teams that I don't know much about, I'll take Granemore by 4
Crossmaglen v Dromintee - As nice as it would be for Dromintee to win, i'll take Cross by 10



For a bit of craic, Predict the Q-Final draw...

Mullaghbawn vs. Crossmaglen
Granemore vs. Harps
Maghery vs. Clan na Gael
Ogs vs. Newtown


Semi-finals...

Crossmaglen vs. Harps
Clan na Gael vs. Ogs.


Final

Crossmaglen vs. Ogs.


County Champions - Ogs..... surrrrrrrreee... Crossmaglen in the final by 6


You must have little too do- you must be a simple servant :- :P :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 11, 2008, 02:01:03 PM
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg – Hard to see anything other than an Ogs win, if the Ogs had a good MF they would be in with a genuine shout of beating Cross, but they are poor in that sector.
Clann Eireann v St Michael's – Haven't watched either team this year but I'd expect Newtown to win by 3 or 4.
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn  - Mullaghbawn are very beatable, don't know how good the 'Nab are but they'll fancy their chances. 'Bawn by 2
Carrickcruppen v Harps - Harps could win easy or be beaten, hard to know what way it'll go, but I fancy us. Hopefully the Dubs will do us a favour and knock Tyrone out meaning we'd have Holmes available.
Killeavey v Maghery – Killeavey have to be one of the form teams and should beat a rudderless Maghery fairly handily.
Granemore v Whitecross – Haven't watched either team but Granemore are definitely a club going places with great youth teams this past 5 or 6 years. Granemore by 2.
Crossmaglen v Dromintee – Hard to see Dromintee having the fight after so many sickners, but we all live in hope of change (except Cross wans obviously).

Clans a bye – Hopefully the clans will get beat.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 11, 2008, 02:13:47 PM
Quote from: full back on August 11, 2008, 12:08:48 PM
Senior Football Championship – 1st Round
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg
Clann Eireann v St Michael's
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn 
Carrickcruppen v Harps 
Killeavey v Maghery
Granemore v Whitecross
Crossmaglen v Dromintee

Clans a bye?
I would say the games might be played at the same venues & times as per the original fixtures except 1 week later

Full back why have a question mark beside the clans. Is it because you're not sure if they got a bye or not or are you questioning them getting a bye in the first place ???

Very good Benny you're a legend "hope the clans are beat". We'll remember that later in the year (thats if you lot get past the first round) if we meet. Enjoy the second division next year bud ;)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 11, 2008, 02:24:23 PM
Why are you so paranoid illdecide ;)


Wasnt sure if Clans were the only team to get a bye, thought there was 2 teams that got a bye last year (Clans & Nab)  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on August 11, 2008, 02:31:57 PM
Aw come on illdecide, its not that long ago Clans were in Div. 2, jaysis man...

Have you any predictions for the championship? Honest ones, not laced with a dislike for the Harps..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 11, 2008, 02:44:42 PM
Dry them, fool.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 11, 2008, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: nashville on August 11, 2008, 02:31:57 PM
Aw come on illdecide, its not that long ago Clans were in Div. 2, jaysis man...

Have you any predictions for the championship? Honest ones, not laced with a dislike for the Harps..

TBH i don't hate any team. When I'm playing against them (any team) i hate them all but after the final whistle i go back to my pleasant self. I honestly couldn't care less who gets relegated as long as it's not the Clans. As for Div 2 i know how easy it is to end up there (got the t-shirt) and if we don't get young players thru quick and soon we'll end up there too (again).

As for you Benny i don't know if you're having a laugh or being serious so I'll give you the benefit and say "are you hard of hearing sucka"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 11, 2008, 03:21:41 PM
Senior Football Championship – 1st Round
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg - Ogs by 3
Clann Eireann v St Michael's  - Draw
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn  - Mullaghbawn by 2
Carrickcruppen v Harps  - Harps by 2
Killeavey v Maghery - Killeavey by 4
Granemore v Whitecross - Granemore by 3
Crossmaglen v Dromintee - Cross by 4

Thats as sensible as i can get it lads. There are a few hard ones there. If that E Quinn is still in Austrailia for the Bawn Nab will be in with a shout
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on August 11, 2008, 03:28:42 PM
looking at div 2, its looking like sarsfields/tir na nog
who do the portadown men play in their last 5 games
who do cruppen play also
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 11, 2008, 03:53:06 PM
naka not sure who tir na nog's game in hand is against but their last four games are
clann eireann at home, silverbridge away, granemore away and whitecross at home!

cruppen last four against keady away, granemore away, wolfe tones at home and an port mor at home!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 11, 2008, 03:58:22 PM
the senior championships

clann eireann to beat newtown
pearse ogs and tir na nog to draw with pearse ogs winning replay
mullaghbawn to beat ballymacnab
cruppen to beat harps
killeavey to beat maghery
whitecross have done it when they wanted to this year in the league and i think will beat granemore
crossmaglen to beat dromintee by a couple of points!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 11, 2008, 05:20:31 PM
It is all up benny when all you can hope for is that the clans get beat :-\. You see there lies the difference. You seem to be infatuated with what happenes the clans where as i really couldn't give a shit what happens the Harps. I haven't once said that i would like the harps to go down but i would be almost certain if it were the clans in the same boat you would be taking every opportunity to highlight it.

You're posts are actually hillarious "harps could win this easy or get beaten"  :D :DThat is funny for so many reasons. Firstly at the minute the harps are crap and fighting relegation and secondly Cruppen are not that bad a side that the harps will beat them easy. Reality check called for because you are still thinking the harps are this excellenet team. Oh but i forgot they lost all them players from the feile so that is why they are under performing. Perhaps they will be back for the cruppen game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on August 11, 2008, 05:40:11 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 11, 2008, 05:20:31 PM
It is all up benny when all you can hope for is that the clans get beat :-\. You see there lies the difference. You seem to be infatuated with what happenes the clans where as i really couldn't give a shit what happens the Harps. I haven't once said that i would like the harps to go down but i would be almost certain if it were the clans in the same boat you would be taking every opportunity to highlight it.

You're posts are actually hillarious "harps could win this easy or get beaten"  :D :DThat is funny for so many reasons. Firstly at the minute the harps are crap and fighting relegation and secondly Cruppen are not that bad a side that the harps will beat them easy. Reality check called for because you are still thinking the harps are this excellenet team. Oh but i forgot they lost all them players from the feile so that is why they are under performing. Perhaps they will be back for the cruppen game.

To be honest Benny - I wouldn't bother!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 11, 2008, 07:09:57 PM
How can Clans get beaten when they have a bye ??? hence do you think maybe it was a bit of a joke? ::)  Jaysus lads if you are going to act like 7 year old girls when anything is said about the Clans it's time to give it up.

Winsam - I reckon we'll either win easy if we play the way we did up in Dromintee with a full team or we could get beaten becuase I know that 'Cruppen are a decent team and we need to be at our best, dont see what's so hard to understand about that? Glad it amused you thou, that's the trouble when discussing anything with Clans wans, you have to explain everything. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 11, 2008, 08:04:08 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 11, 2008, 03:21:41 PM

If that E Quinn is still in Austrailia for the Bawn Nab will be in with a shout

Eamonn is back from australia but mark is away
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 11, 2008, 08:22:24 PM
Eamon gets married in a few weeks time so I'd say football is that last thing on his mind
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 11, 2008, 08:50:58 PM
I don't know what way you communicate in Armagh city benny but in lurgan when we are discussing things it is a given tradition that we explain things :o :o. Things like morse code and second guessing are a bit outdated :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 11, 2008, 08:53:18 PM
FFS benny you had to start, don't you know humour is dead and gone in Lurgan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 11, 2008, 08:57:53 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 11, 2008, 08:53:18 PM
FFS benny you had to start, don't you know humour is dead and gone in Lurgan.

And comprehension skills apparently.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 11, 2008, 10:37:14 PM
The podge and rodge show. Pints and Benny.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 12, 2008, 08:49:07 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 17 AUGUST 2008


Friday 15 August

ACL – Division One (7.15)
Maghery v Clan na Gael (Joe Murtagh)

ACL – Division Two (7.15)
Keady v Granemore (Ronan Quigley)
Wolfe Tone v Sarsfields (Malachy McNicholl)

ACL – Division Three (7.15)
Tullysaran v Collegeland (Oliver Hearty)

ACL – Division Four (7.15)
Middletown v Phelim Brady's (Noel Martin)


Sunday 17 August

ACL – Division One (2.00)
Killeavey v Dromintee (Barney Henry)
Pearse Og v Harps (Paudie Hughes)
Culloville v Mullaghbawn (Ger Devlin)

ACL – Division Two (2.00)
Tir na nÓg v Clann Eireann (Ronan Quigley)
Keady v Carrickcruppen (Paul Rath)
Sarsfields v An Port Mor (Brendan Gorman)
St Michael's v Wolfe Tone (Noel Martin)
Silverbridge v Granemore (Damian McConville)
Whitecross v Ballymacnab (Gary Smith)

ACL – Division Three (2.00)
St Paul's v Ballyhegan (Paul Boylan)
Crossmaglen II v Clonmore (Mickey Leonard)
Madden v Annaghmore (Henry McCloy)
Grange v St Peter's (Jim Slevin)
Lissummon v Belleek (Jim Burns)

ACL – Division Four (2.00)
Corrinshego v Derrynoose (Kevin Gallogly)
Shane O'Neill's v Middletown (Eamon Nugent)
O'Hanlon's v Mullaghbrack (Seamus O'Neill)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 12, 2008, 12:49:14 PM
Good good, i see we are down to play maghery. Maybe loughshore ladwill turn up and pay the £100 he bet that maghery wouldn't go down. On a lighter note lads if that rain keeps up there will be no games at the weekend. But the pitches have held up rightly. Dromintees pitch was in good nick on sun.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 12, 2008, 01:37:43 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 12, 2008, 12:49:14 PM
Good good, i see we are down to play maghery. Maybe loughshore ladwill turn up and pay the £100 he bet that maghery wouldn't go down. On a lighter note lads if that rain keeps up there will be no games at the weekend. But the pitches have held up rightly. Dromintees pitch was in good nick on sun.

What was the feed like?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on August 12, 2008, 03:49:23 PM
Any word on offical championship fixtures?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 12, 2008, 04:02:33 PM
Read on Orchardounty.com that they are postponed to the weekend of 30th/31st.  Dont see why they should be as the document seamus mcdonagh sent out clearly outlinging the different scenarios for the championship is only a week old - surely wouldn't backtrack already?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 12, 2008, 04:17:16 PM
The feeding was good aswell El  8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 12, 2008, 05:17:28 PM
As far as i know our game has been changed til the 30th.  The county boys were told it after the match on saturday by P og Nugent
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 12, 2008, 05:36:58 PM

Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 12, 2008, 05:17:28 PM
As far as i know our game has been changed til the 30th.  The county boys were told it after the match on saturday by P og Nugent

Is Seamus McDonagh not the secretary of the Armagh Competitions Control Committee.
If so what is Paddy Nugent talking about?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 12, 2008, 06:02:39 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on August 12, 2008, 05:36:58 PM

Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 12, 2008, 05:17:28 PM
As far as i know our game has been changed til the 30th.  The county boys were told it after the match on saturday by P og Nugent

Is Seamus McDonagh not the secretary of the Armagh Competitions Control Committee.
If so what is Paddy Nugent talking about?

Don't shoot the messenger.  I'm just saying what i was told
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 13, 2008, 02:03:30 PM
Heard it was the 31str alright
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 13, 2008, 02:15:15 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 13, 2008, 02:03:30 PM
Heard it was the 31str alright

you're soup and sandwhich's were very good ;) pity about the result :'(

If it's that weekend then i'll not be able to see any championship matches :'( (heading away for the weekend)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 14, 2008, 12:17:58 PM
Pearse Ogs v Tir Na Nog

Davitt Park

Sunday 31st

6pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 14, 2008, 12:30:38 PM
Lucozade Sport Senior Football Championship Round 1

Saturday 30th August
@ 6pm
Ballymacnab v Mullawbawn  in SIlverbridge
Carrickcruppin v Armagh Harps  in Keady
Killeavy v Maghery in Pearse Og Park
Sunday 31st August
@ 2pm
Granemore v Whitecross in Newtownhamilton
Clann Eireann v St Michaels in Abbey Park
@ 6pm
Pearse Og v Tir na Nog in Davitt Park
Crossmaglen v Dromintee in Carrickcruppin

Lucozade Sport Intermediate Football Championship Round 1

Friday 22nd August
@ 7pm
Ballyhegan v St Peters in Portadown
Crossmaglen 2nds v St Pats Cullyhanna in Silverbridge
Saturday 23rd August
@ 6pm
Annaghmore v Wolfe Tones in Maghery
SUnday 24th August
@ 2pm
Clonmore v Madden in Pearse Og Park
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 14, 2008, 12:37:37 PM
Typical.  I would have like to see the Cross Dromintee game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 14, 2008, 12:42:03 PM
Don't be such a prat El Ceurvo, how dare you suggest that the county board have the gumption to play a few double headers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 14, 2008, 12:54:41 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 14, 2008, 12:42:03 PM
Don't be such a prat El Ceurvo, how dare you suggest that the county board have the gumption to play a few double headers.

Shame on me
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on August 14, 2008, 01:59:03 PM
rumour has it that the hurling championship is down for that sunday as well and a few of the ogs lads are hurlers. if this is true the county board are an absolute joke!! no doubt one of the games will have to be refixed. my guess it will be the hurling as usual!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 14, 2008, 02:24:19 PM
Quote from: bubbles on August 14, 2008, 01:59:03 PM
rumour has it that the hurling championship is down for that sunday as well and a few of the ogs lads are hurlers. if this is true the county board are an absolute joke!! no doubt one of the games will have to be refixed. my guess it will be the hurling as usual!!!!

I can't see Big Paul - the hurling chairman - allowing this to happen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on August 14, 2008, 02:39:02 PM

Ballymacnab v Mullawbawn  in SIlverbridge - M/BAWN BY 2
Carrickcruppin v Armagh Harps  in Keady - CRUPPEN BY 3
Killeavy v Maghery in Pearse Og Park - MAGHERY BY 2
Granemore v Whitecross in Newtownhamilton- WHITECROSS BY 3
Clann Eireann v St Michaels in Abbey Park  - NEWTOWN BY 4
Pearse Og v Tir na Nog in Davitt Park - TIR NA NOG BY 1
Crossmaglen v Dromintee in Carrickcruppin - CROSS BY 8

Ballyhegan v St Peters in Portadown - B/HEGAN BY 3
Crossmaglen 2nds v St Pats Cullyhanna in Silverbridge - PATS BY 10
Annaghmore v Wolfe Tones in Maghery - ANNAGHMORE BY 1
Clonmore v Madden in Pearse Og Park - MADDEN BY 6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on August 14, 2008, 02:42:01 PM
Any match betting available lads in the local bookies?? Anyone wanna post some up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 14, 2008, 03:56:17 PM
Quote from: bubbles on August 14, 2008, 01:59:03 PM
rumour has it that the hurling championship is down for that sunday as well and a few of the ogs lads are hurlers. if this is true the county board are an absolute joke!! no doubt one of the games will have to be refixed. my guess it will be the hurling as usual!!!!

You are right Bubbles and from talking to El Cuervo the Ogs or Cuchullainns will be without 5-6 boys - though the hurling will more than likely be put back like you said
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 14, 2008, 04:24:59 PM
What is the Hurling draw this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 14, 2008, 04:38:53 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 14, 2008, 04:24:59 PM
What is the Hurling draw this year?

Cuchullianns play Keady anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wherefromreferee? on August 14, 2008, 04:49:16 PM
What way are Whitecross going this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 14, 2008, 05:19:58 PM
Quote from: wherefromreferee? on August 14, 2008, 04:49:16 PM
What way are Whitecross going this year?

What Division do they play in?
I see they play Granemore in the Senior championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 14, 2008, 05:50:36 PM
They are in the second division, they were relgated from the first division last year. They are capable of playing a decent brand of football if they can keep their cocks in their shorts and not swinging them at the crowd containing women and children.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 14, 2008, 06:07:10 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 14, 2008, 05:50:36 PM
They are in the second division, they were relgated from the first division last year. They are capable of playing a decent brand of football if they can keep their cocks in their shorts and not swinging them at the crowd containing women and children.

Explain!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on August 14, 2008, 07:20:44 PM
can someone name me some prominent bookies in armagh that i could search for that might offer odds for the championship?? have found down, tyrone and kildare betting so far! Proud of myself!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 14, 2008, 08:46:07 PM
Hughes in Ogle Street Armagh or French's in the same street would be your best bet, hardly online but.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on August 14, 2008, 08:54:23 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 14, 2008, 08:46:07 PM
Hughes in Ogle Street Armagh or French's in the same street would be your best bet, hardly online but.

I'm sitting in frenchs here, thats where I work but in lurgan! We have no odds up, we normally steal ours, will try to ring the armagh office tomorrow see if they can get any...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 14, 2008, 09:39:38 PM
You could maybe try Sean Grahams as well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on August 15, 2008, 09:38:45 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 14, 2008, 09:39:38 PM
You could maybe try Sean Grahams as well

Tried their website, nothing for the club as well

Pity cuz I know there would be a lot of interest if they had priced up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 15, 2008, 10:49:38 AM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on August 15, 2008, 09:38:45 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 14, 2008, 09:39:38 PM
You could maybe try Sean Grahams as well

Tried their website, nothing for the club as well

Pity cuz I know there would be a lot of interest if they had priced up.


james french in Lurgan always has betting up- I will try tonight and post it up if there
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 15, 2008, 11:02:04 AM
My Own Odds

Cross 1/4
Ogs 3/1
Clans 4/1
Dromintee 8/1
Mullaghbawn 10/1
Killeavey 10/1
Harps 10/1
Carrickcruppen 16/1
St Michaels 16/1
Maghery 18/1
Tir na Nog 20/1
Granemore 20/1
Whitecross 20/1
Ballymacnab 40/1
Clann Eireann 40/1

Dromintee being a healthy bet because of who they face.

Ballymacnab 7/4v Mullawbawn   5/6
Carrickcruppin 7/4 v Armagh Harps  5/6
Killeavy 5/6 v Maghery 7/4
Granemore 6/5v Whitecross Evs
Clann Eireann 6/4 v St Michaels 4/6
Pearse Og 1/3 v Tir na Nog /5/2
Crossmaglen 1/3 v Dromintee 5/2

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 15, 2008, 11:11:24 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 15, 2008, 11:02:04 AM
My Own Odds

Cross 1/4
Ogs 3/1
Clans 4/1
Dromintee 8/1
Mullaghbawn 10/1
Killeavey 10/1
Harps 10/1
Carrickcruppen 16/1
St Michaels 16/1
Maghery 18/1
Tir na Nog 20/1
Granemore 20/1
Whitecross 20/1
Ballymacnab 40/1
Clann Eireann 40/1

Dromintee being a healthy bet because of who they face.

Ballymacnab 7/4v Mullawbawn   5/6
Carrickcruppin 7/4 v Armagh Harps  5/6
Killeavy 5/6 v Maghery 7/4
Granemore 6/5v Whitecross Evs
Clann Eireann 6/4 v St Michaels 4/6
Pearse Og 1/3 v Tir na Nog /5/2
Crossmaglen 1/3 v Dromintee 5/2




Just as well you dont run a bookies, because you would be cleaned ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 15, 2008, 11:42:39 AM
I wouldn't doubt that, but cleaned on what exactly?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2008, 01:14:36 PM
Benny - It doesn't really make sense that you have Cross as a shorter price to win the championship than to win their first round match.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 15, 2008, 01:18:41 PM
I was talking about being able to back both teams in most of the games & still make money
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 15, 2008, 01:49:25 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2008, 01:14:36 PM
Benny - It doesn't really make sense that you have Cross as a shorter price to win the championship than to win their first round match.

Right enough.

FB, dont see how, although I didn't put up prices for Draws.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 15, 2008, 02:08:05 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 15, 2008, 01:49:25 PM
FB, dont see how, although I didn't put up prices for Draws.

Ballymacnab 7/4v Mullawbawn   5/6

For eg. £40 on the Nab & £60 on Mullaghbawn - cant lose
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 15, 2008, 02:10:00 PM
Draw screws you in that case, but you're right - too generous. A constant failing on my part.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MrTaylor on August 15, 2008, 02:38:00 PM
Can I ask why the hurling on 31 August will be put back when it has been fixed since March? The following weekend is All Ireland Hurling Final weekend.

From Armagh Gaa website today!

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/index.php?option=com_joomleague&func=showResults&Itemid=129&p=5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 15, 2008, 09:12:39 PM
just back from tones sarsfields game.pains me to say it but the sarsfields are the best team in the 2nd.won the game by 6 points or so have a very goo forward line and are big in around the middle.  very good team ethic.  they could give st.pats a real run 4 intermediate.

tones less said the better!!will struggle to beat annaghmore next week and they are a bad lot.  made some very stupid mistakes the night, gave away 3 or 4 scores from free kicks in own half.at one stage back to back!

peter stevenson has made the transition to corner back very well,was very impressive mght be worth a look at for county though very small
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 15, 2008, 10:23:07 PM
Sarsfields defeated Tones and Keady lost to Granemore.
Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 16, 2008, 08:41:10 AM
Quote from: MrTaylor on August 15, 2008, 02:38:00 PM
Can I ask why the hurling on 31 August will be put back when it has been fixed since March? The following weekend is All Ireland Hurling Final weekend.

From Armagh Gaa website today!

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/index.php?option=com_joomleague&func=showResults&Itemid=129&p=5

Those dates were the original fixtures
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 16, 2008, 11:40:06 AM
Quote from: corn02 on August 14, 2008, 12:30:38 PM
Lucozade Sport Senior Football Championship Round 1

Saturday 30th August
@ 6pm
Ballymacnab v Mullawbawn  in SIlverbridge
Carrickcruppin v Armagh Harps  in Keady
Killeavy v Maghery in Pearse Og Park
Sunday 31st August
@ 2pm
Granemore v Whitecross in Newtownhamilton
Clann Eireann v St Michaels in Abbey Park
@ 6pm
Pearse Og v Tir na Nog in Davitt Park
Crossmaglen v Dromintee in Carrickcruppin

Lucozade Sport Intermediate Football Championship Round 1

Friday 22nd August
@ 7pm
Ballyhegan v St Peters in Portadown
Crossmaglen 2nds v St Pats Cullyhanna in Silverbridge
Saturday 23rd August
@ 6pm
Annaghmore v Wolfe Tones in Maghery
SUnday 24th August
@ 2pm
Clonmore v Madden in Pearse Og Park

What a joke. who makes these fixtures and why do they not want people to see all of our games?
fixing championship matches for the same time is absolute insanity. f**king spastics.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 16, 2008, 11:45:23 AM
Magery beat clans by a point last night. Yet another shite performance from les blues. Hat young lads forker continues to be deadly yet when he steps uo a grade he seems to crack. Maybe he just ain't good enough for that level but he frustratingly seems to be made of the right stuff.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 16, 2008, 11:56:58 AM

I assume its too latenfor maghery to save themselves? they're a good young team when they've everyone so i'd imagine they'll be straight back up. I'm not sure the right middle is in forker.

what's the story with clans in recent weeks?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 16, 2008, 11:58:58 AM
We have a lot of guys missing and away on holidays. I think we had something like 8 missing last night but thatis no excuse.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 16, 2008, 12:28:25 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 16, 2008, 11:45:23 AM
Magery beat clans by a point last night. Yet another shite performance from les blues. Hat young lads forker continues to be deadly yet when he steps uo a grade he seems to crack. Maybe he just ain't good enough for that level but he frustratingly seems to be made of the right stuff.

I see himself an Colm Watters have been asked to attend that AFL trial.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 16, 2008, 12:30:57 PM

Have you not been asked corn? think every footaller in the country has been invited
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 16, 2008, 12:56:26 PM
Nah I turned it down, I would prbably be too good and over physical for it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 16, 2008, 01:23:44 PM
says on the txt there have been 22 asked and 15 of them are from ulster. Dessie Mone is one of them . I wish they would take Vernon
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 16, 2008, 01:56:39 PM
QuoteI wish they would take Vernon

What do you mean by that Win?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 16, 2008, 02:31:40 PM
He's a big strong lad don't get me wrong but he has limited football ability and laks pace especially for a half back. If the aussie too him, he would be more suited to aussie rules because of his physique. It is time the county started to bring footballers into the panel again an come away from ogre recruitment.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 16, 2008, 07:48:04 PM
peter stevenson has made the transition to corner back very well,was very impressive mght be worth a look at for county though very small
[/quote]

Are you for real!! Grow up son. You must be Peters Da! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 16, 2008, 08:01:39 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D :D classic  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 16, 2008, 09:33:27 PM
QuoteHe's a big strong lad don't get me wrong but he has limited football ability

I'm genuinely amazed that anybody who's watched Charlie Vernon on any sort of regular basis over the past few years could say he has "limited football ability". Fair enough, he hasn't yet fulfilled his potential in an Armagh senior shirt but there's no doubt he has the ability to be a pivotal player for Armagh in the years to come.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on August 16, 2008, 10:26:57 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 16, 2008, 09:33:27 PM
QuoteHe's a big strong lad don't get me wrong but he has limited football ability

I'm genuinely amazed that anybody who's watched Charlie Vernon on any sort of regular basis over the past few years could say he has "limited football ability". Fair enough, he hasn't yet fulfilled his potential in an Armagh senior shirt but there's no doubt he has the ability to be a pivotal player for Armagh in the years to come.

TAC, I believe your post should have read,

I'm genuinely amazed that anybody who's watched Charlie Vernon on any sort of regular basis over the past few years, and has a clue what they're talking about, could say he has "limited football ability". Fair enough, he hasn't yet fulfilled his potential in an Armagh senior shirt but there's no doubt he has the ability to be a pivotal player for Armagh in the years to come.

The trouble with many threads on this site is that many posts are generated simply to wind people up on the basis of petty county or club loyalties / rivalries. This thread, and that post you quoted TAC, are both absolute examples of this. The lack of in depth knowledge though cannot be disguised.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 16, 2008, 10:38:14 PM

Vernon is a fantastic footballer and athlete. despite what the paper regurgitators would have you believe, it's still an asset to be athletic. obviously vernon has his first year under his belt now and while i'd have been critical of some of his outings, he'll be better for it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on August 16, 2008, 11:36:50 PM
Rufus

I know for a fact that Houley shares this assessment of Charlie  ::). 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 17, 2008, 12:24:54 PM
Lads no one is saying that Young Vernon hasn't a great attitude, and he is a great athlete. I have never said anything different.Rufus this has nothing to do with clubs either.Plus i also never said he had a nightmare of a season because he was no worse than anyone else Granted i don't see Vernon week in week out for the harps but the games i have watched him play in the club championship and league and for Armagh he has distinctly lacked pace and speed of thought.

We are coming into a new phase of county football now where bigger guys are being exposed. Vernon fits into this big strong category and if he were marking a smaller nippy half forward he would be took to the cleaners. If you compare him to someone with the same stauture say for instance Eamon O' Hara of sligo. Vernon would have the same build if not better but O'hara can pick a ball up in his own half and penetrate the other team Vernon can't. O' Hara can also take a score i think if Vernon was up that far he would take a noise bleed. In O' Hara we have a player that the opposition fears, i wouldn't be sure if other teams would see Vernon in this light. What also doesn't help the lad is the system that Armagh has been playing which probably restricts him from getting up too far. However lads imho I don't really think Vernon has the ability to cut it at the top when it counts.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 17, 2008, 01:00:17 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 17, 2008, 12:24:54 PM
Lads no one is saying that Young Vernon hasn't a great attitude, and he is a great athlete. I have never said anything different.Rufus this has nothing to do with clubs either.Plus i also never said he had a nightmare of a season because he was no worse than anyone else Granted i don't see Vernon week in week out for the harps but the games i have watched him play in the club championship and league and for Armagh he has distinctly lacked pace and speed of thought.

We are coming into a new phase of county football now where bigger guys are being exposed. Vernon fits into this big strong category and if he were marking a smaller nippy half forward he would be took to the cleaners. If you compare him to someone with the same stauture say for instance Eamon O' Hara of sligo. Vernon would have the same build if not better but O'hara can pick a ball up in his own half and penetrate the other team Vernon can't. O' Hara can also take a score i think if Vernon was up that far he would take a noise bleed. In O' Hara we have a player that the opposition fears, i wouldn't be sure if other teams would see Vernon in this light. What also doesn't help the lad is the system that Armagh has been playing which probably restricts him from getting up too far. However lads imho I don't really think Vernon has the ability to cut it at the top when it counts.   


Win, your not comparing like and like. Vernon was in his first year and he is not the type of player who is going to get noticed as a superstar. He had  a very, very specific role to play this year and sometimes he got it tough, but people did not give him credit for the good things he did.

I have seen plenty of the man at club/underage county/college and he will be a main layer for Armagh soon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 17, 2008, 01:11:56 PM
Corn i hope you are right because Armagh are certainly going to need  players of the calibre you discribe coming through. I was comparing him with O'Hara because of his stature. If he was worth his salt he would be making a bigger impact at going forward that is all i am saying.

If we be honest about it this was one of the easiest Ulster titles Armagh have won and they reached a quarter final of an All Ireland without meeting a decent team and Vernon by no means stood out in any of the games against ordinary opposition. I will by all means give the lad the benefit of the doubt cosidering it is early in his career but i just can't see him being a highly influential player for Armagh in the future. That also goes for a few others, i am being harsh just singling Vernon out. I hear he has a great attitude and i hope i am wrong but we hall just have to wait and see. As far as i am concerned the verdict is well out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 17, 2008, 02:08:55 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 17, 2008, 01:11:56 PM
Corn i hope you are right

So do I...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 17, 2008, 03:45:20 PM
I am just home after the Mullaghbawn and Cullaville game and i am very freaked out.  What i just witnessed there today i found very very strange.  Today was the refixuture of the abondoned game which was played a few weeks ago, remember it was the game which Rory McDonnell got his leg broke. 

Well today Gary Ferris was going through one on one with the cullaville goalkeeper and they collided resulting in a leg break for gary....it was a carbon copy of the last incident, gary was wearing the same number as rory as well, number 12.  The only diff was it was in the opposite goal....How strange is that....

Mullaghbawn won the game by 6 points but i never saw a more dead in to a game in my life, supporters and players were just there in shock.....Gary like Rory is a trades man so that is him out of work now as well as football...


By the way we are running a fundraising event for Rory McDonnell on Fri Aug 29th, and we would like as many as possible to turn up on the night..


Strange day all round!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on August 17, 2008, 03:59:48 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 17, 2008, 02:08:55 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 17, 2008, 01:11:56 PM
Corn i hope you are right

So do I...

Are you not always right ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 17, 2008, 04:23:52 PM
Pearse Ogs 0-9 Harps 1-6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on August 17, 2008, 04:33:07 PM
Win you have some balls on you coming on here slating a lad with the commitment and time he has given to gaelic football! i no charlie quite well and have played on a few teams with him and id say if he has read this he would be quite annoyied to say the least! it was the lads first yr on the team and is only 20 r so, jesus christ give him a break! anyone that puts in the commitment that he does deserves nothing but praise! Hes did a good job in his first year and id say he will be around for quite a while!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on August 17, 2008, 04:56:32 PM
I think Vernon had a reasonable enough first season, I cant think of him ever having a stinker or anything?? I wouldn't mind if down had a few lads like him with the sort of commitment and dedication he shows.

Have seen him at queens the last few years and he has been brilliant, give him a f**king chance.

Win also think you are being a prat coming on here slating a young lad like that in your county team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on August 17, 2008, 07:03:21 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on August 17, 2008, 03:45:20 PM
Mullaghbawn won the game by 6 points but i never saw a more dead in to a game in my life, supporters and players were just there in shock.....Gary like Rory is a trades man so that is him out of work now as well as football...

That confirms Harps' relegation. I would be curious though to know what Mullaghbawn's last match is. Our last fixture is away to Maghery, and although I accept we deserve to go down, as a supporter I can't help but wonder how it might have been on the last day if we were travelling to Maghery with twelve points instead of eleven and needing a win and hoping Mullabawn got beaten - I do of course refer to the point we dropped at Culloville when the ref mis-counted the scores. Not to be unfortunately.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 17, 2008, 07:09:00 PM
Our last game is against clans at home rufus......You know rufus every team had unfortunate incidents through the league, we threw away a few games as well, but at the end of the day the league is run over 18 odd games, and the table never lies.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sean og on August 17, 2008, 07:33:30 PM
Was in dublin yesterday,TYR showed us all how it is done
when you have forwards that are able to score especially
in the half forwards. Hopefully we will see some good forwards
in the championship soon. What about greg loughran where has
he been all year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on August 17, 2008, 07:45:41 PM
You wrote

Quote from: Real1995 on August 17, 2008, 07:09:00 PM
Our last game is against clans at home rufus......You know rufus every team had unfortunate incidents through the league, we threw away a few games as well, but at the end of the day the league is run over 18 odd games, and the table never lies.....

In response to my post that said

Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on August 17, 2008, 07:03:21 PM
That confirms Harps' relegation. I would be curious though to know what Mullaghbawn's last match is. Our last fixture is away to Maghery, and although I accept we deserve to go down, as a supporter I can't help but wonder how it might have been on the last day if we were travelling to Maghery with twelve points instead of eleven and needing a win and hoping Mullabawn got beaten - I do of course refer to the point we dropped at Culloville when the ref mis-counted the scores. Not to be unfortunately.

I have highlighted in bold, and underlined, seven words from my post. Please read them again, and if thereafter you still need clarification, by all means come back to me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 17, 2008, 08:07:52 PM
Quote from: sean og on August 17, 2008, 07:33:30 PM
Was in dublin yesterday,TYR showed us all how it is done
when you have forwards that are able to score especially
in the half forwards. Hopefully we will see some good forwards
in the championship soon. What about greg loughran where has
he been all year.

Gregory hurt his ankle in training for the county and was out for a few months.  He's played our last four or five games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 17, 2008, 10:09:31 PM
cruppen beat keady, poor enough game. think it finished 1 12 to 9 or something like that. any other results??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 17, 2008, 10:17:05 PM
can someone post up the league tables from orchardcounty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 17, 2008, 10:18:44 PM
Friday 15 August

ACL – Division One
Maghery 1-12; Clan na Gael 1-11

ACL – Division Two
Keady 0-7; Granemore 0-8
Wolfe Tone 0-6; Sarsfields 0-11

ACL – Division Three
Tullysaran v Collegeland (Off)

ACL – Division Four
Middletown 3-14; Phelim Brady's 1-4


Sunday 17 August

ACL – Division One
Killeavey 2-10; Dromintee 0-10
Pearse Og 0-9; Harps 1-6
Culloville 1-6; Mullaghbawn 2-10

ACL – Division Two
Tir na nÓg v Clann Eireann (Off)
Keady 0-9; Carrickcruppen 1-12
Sarsfields 6-15; An Port Mor 1-5
St Michael's 0-10; Wolfe Tone 0-13
Silverbridge 0-12; Granemore 1-6
Whitecross 1-14; Ballymacnab 1-9

ACL – Division Three
St Paul's v Ballyhegan (Off)
Crossmaglen II 0-15; Clonmore 1-11
Madden 1-16; Annaghmore 0-10
Grange 2-8; St Peter's 3-6
Lissummon v Belleek (Off)

ACL – Division Four
Corrinshego v Derrynoose (Off)
Shane O'Neill's v Middletown (Off)
O'Hanlon's v Mullaghbrack (Off)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 17, 2008, 10:19:21 PM
ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 17 15 2 0 32
Pearse Og 16 8 4 4 20
Culloville 16 8 1 7 17
St Patrick's 16 8 1 7 17
Killeavey 17 8 1 8 17
Clan na Gael 16 6 3 7 15
Dromintee 17 7 1 9 15
Mullaghbawn 17 6 2 9 14
Harps 17 4 3 10 11
Maghery 17 3 2 12 8

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 19 15 1 3 31
Carrickcruppen 19 12 1 6 25
Tir na nÓg 17 12 0 5 24
Granemore 18 10 0 8 20
Silverbridge 17 9 1 7 19
St Michael's 19 9 1 9 19
Clann Eireann 17 8 1 8 17
Wolfe Tone 17 7 0 10 14
Ballymacnab 17 6 1 10 13
Whitecross 17 6 0 11 12
Keady 15 4 1 10 9
An Port Mor 18 3 1 14 7

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Madden 17 14 2 1 30
St Paul's 17 12 1 4 25
Collegeland 17 10 2 5 22
Annaghmore 18 10 0 8 20
Belleek 16 8 3 5 19
Ballyhegan 15 9 0 6 18
St Peter's 18 7 3 8 17
Lissummon 16 5 3 8 13
Tullysaran 16 4 3 9 11
Clonmore 18 4 3 11 11
Grange 17 3 1 13 7
Crossmaglen II 17 3 3 11 9

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 15 14 1 0 29
Middletown 15 10 3 2 23
Eire Og 16 11 1 4 23
Derrynoose 14 10 0 4 20
Forkhill 16 9 1 6 19
Clady 15 7 2 6 16
O'Hanlon's 15 7 0 8 14
Corrinshego 15 4 1 10 9
Mullaghbrack 16 4 1 11 9
Dorsey Emmett's 15 3 0 12 6
Phelim Brady's 16 0 0 16 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 17, 2008, 10:26:18 PM
Cheers fullback
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 17, 2008, 10:33:33 PM
Hats off to Killeavey - what a turnaround......would like to see there stats for the second half of the league???
they couldn have dropped many points....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 18, 2008, 01:03:47 AM
QuoteHats off to Killeavey - what a turnaround......would like to see there stats for the second half of the league???
they couldn have dropped many points....

Well we beat them fairly handy in the 2nd half of the League with half a team missing and I was convinced at that stage they were doomed. Some turnaround you're right as in  he two games we played against them I definetly thought they were the poorest sides in the division but they got the points when it mattered so fair play to them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on August 18, 2008, 01:35:54 AM
Maybe someone can verify this for me but will these be the teams in their respective divisions for next season? (Now I do understand that some teams like Cruppen etc arent guaranteed promotion just yet)

DIV 1
Crossmaglen
Pearse Og
Culloville
St Patrick's
Killeavey
Clan na Gael
Dromintee
Mullaghbawn
Sarsfields
Carrickcruppen

DIV 2
Harps
Maghery
Tir na nÓg
Granemore
Silverbridge
St Michael's
Clann Eireann
Wolfe Tone
Ballymacnab
Whitecross
Madden
St Paul's

DIV 3
Keady
An Port Mor
Collegeland
Annaghmore
Belleek
Ballyhegan
St Peter's
Lissummon
Tullysaran
Clonmore
Shane O'Neill's
Middletown

DIV 4
Grange
Crossmaglen II
Eire Og
Derrynoose
Forkhill
Clady
O'Hanlon's
Corrinshego
Mullaghbrack
Dorsey Emmett's
Phelim Brady's



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 18, 2008, 05:37:43 AM
Quote from: downtown on August 17, 2008, 04:33:07 PM
Win you have some balls on you coming on here slating a lad with the commitment and time he has given to gaelic football! i no charlie quite well and have played on a few teams with him and id say if he has read this he would be quite annoyied to say the least! it was the lads first yr on the team and is only 20 r so, jesus christ give him a break! anyone that puts in the commitment that he does deserves nothing but praise! Hes did a good job in his first year and id say he will be around for quite a while!
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No one is slating Vernon as an individual, i personally don't kow the lad but what i have seen of him on the football field to date hasn't been anything special. That is my view on it and if it offends you then so be it. It is nothing personal against Charlie and as i have said he isn't the only one on the county panel that this applies to. Some of you guys get confused, when someone puts up a post about a certain individual. You automatically see it as a personal attack. You couldn't be further of the mark. It is merely a football opinion to which everyone within the GAA should be entitled too.

Also i have 100% respect for anyone who puts the committment in that Vernon and the other county lads have. However my posts have nothing to do with committment it is about football ability. I am sure we know of 20 guys who have all the committment in the world at club level, they would climb everest if you ask them. This doesn't make them a good player. So try not to confuse the issue at hand lads. I have also said that i hope young Vernon proves me wrong next season because Armagh will need all the quality they can get in the coming years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 18, 2008, 09:27:37 AM
Pearse Ogs v Tir Na Nog championship match has been changed to Saturday 6th September
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 18, 2008, 09:44:26 AM

what's going on with dromintee? surely the county men were back yesterday? corn?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 18, 2008, 10:14:40 AM
Wasn't down Uladh, had to work. Yeah big team out but still missing 5 championship starters. We were terrible seemingly. 2 up in second half and then they got two goals - once agin I believe Killeavy werew very mouthy.

There second half to the season has been excellent and has included at least wins against us x 2 andover Mullaghbawn.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 18, 2008, 10:20:37 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 18, 2008, 09:27:37 AM
Pearse Ogs v Tir Na Nog championship match has been changed to Saturday 6th September

Is there a reason for this EL Cuervo???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on August 18, 2008, 11:35:08 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 18, 2008, 09:27:37 AM
Pearse Ogs v Tir Na Nog championship match has been changed to Saturday 6th September


Heard this is because Ogs complained to County board that Andy Mallon was injured playing for Armagh and that it wasn't fair that Ogs should have to play championship without him..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on August 18, 2008, 11:50:02 AM
this is absolute rubbish. andy will be out for the rest of the season so unless the championship gets held back until november - december no chance.

Cuhullians hurling have their championship match that sunday and the county board in all there wisdom schedulled the matchs for the same day. total muppets. think ogs have about 5 players involved in the hurling. hurling date was fixed in march and so footy had to move
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 18, 2008, 12:13:56 PM
Quote from: nashville on August 18, 2008, 11:35:08 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 18, 2008, 09:27:37 AM
Pearse Ogs v Tir Na Nog championship match has been changed to Saturday 6th September


Heard this is because Ogs complained to County board that Andy Mallon was injured playing for Armagh and that it wasn't fair that Ogs should have to play championship without him..

[Mod 3]How would anybody come up with such crap??

Illdecide, as bubbles said, it's because there are 5 dual players for the ogs and cuchullians, and the county board had fixed their championship matches for the same day.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Louis the Red on August 18, 2008, 01:14:15 PM
The Harps would have 3 dual players too.  Hardly fair on them playing on the Sat evening and again on the Sunday!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 18, 2008, 01:42:13 PM
Quote from: Louis the Red on August 18, 2008, 01:14:15 PM
The Harps would have 3 dual players too.  Hardly fair on them playing on the Sat evening and again on the Sunday!!!

Who would the three be? of all the hurlers Joe Q would be the only one to start for the Harps, Decy Coulter doesn't play senior AFAIK neither does Clif
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on August 18, 2008, 03:28:37 PM
Decky Coulter does play senior football for the harps, he played the last 3 league games before he went to America, and I hear he is home and will be featuring for the Harps however far they get in the championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 18, 2008, 03:43:43 PM
How many games as he played this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 18, 2008, 03:46:55 PM
Quote from: nashville on August 18, 2008, 03:28:37 PM
Decky Coulter does play senior football for the harps, he played the last 3 league games before he went to America, and I hear he is home and will be featuring for the Harps however far they get in the championship.

well i take ur word for it i thought he'd only played a few B games for the Harps. So Decy and Joe thats two who's the 3rd?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on August 18, 2008, 03:56:02 PM
Paul Hagan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on August 18, 2008, 04:03:29 PM
Quote from: Candyman on August 18, 2008, 03:56:02 PM
Paul Hagan

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on August 18, 2008, 06:38:37 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on August 18, 2008, 04:03:29 PM
Quote from: Candyman on August 18, 2008, 03:56:02 PM
Paul Hagan

:D

Will he be featuring for yas in the cship? :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on August 18, 2008, 09:47:17 PM
He's in line for the management set-up next year...... well thats the word on the street anyway!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 18, 2008, 10:00:56 PM
JUNIOR   
Middletown v Corrinshigo @ Ballymacnab    Sat 23rd                       6.00pm J Lynch
Eire Og v Tullysarran         @ Ballyhegan       Sun 24th               6.00pm J. Murtagh
Mullabrack v Forkhill        @ C/Cruppin         Sun 24th               6.00pm N. Martin
Derrynoose v Grange         @ Abbey Park       Fri 29th               7.00pm K.McNeice
                                                   
INTERMEDIATE
Ballyhegan v St.Peters       @ Portadown        Fri 22nd                7.00pm K. Murtagh
Crossmaglen 2nds v St.Patricks @ Silverbridge Fri 22nd            7.00pm B. Gorman
Annaghmore v Wolfe Tones @ Maghery       Sat 23rd                 6.00pm V.O'Neill   
Clonmore v Madden         @ Pearse Og Park Sun 24th                2.00pm P. Hughes
teams already in quarter finals—Cullaville, Keady, Sarsfields and Silverbridge.
                                                 
SENIOR
Ballymacnab v Mullabawn   @ Silverbridge   Sat 30th                6.00pm M. Leonard
Carrickcruppin v Harps        @ Keady             Sat 30th                6.00pm G. Smith
Killeavy v Maghery              @ Pearse Og Park Sat 30th             6.00pm G. Devlin
Clann Eireann v St.Michaels @ Abbey Park    Sun 31st              2.00pm J. McKee
Granemore v Whitecross       @ Cullyhanna    Sun 31st               2.00pm R.Robinson 
Crossmaglen v Dromintee     @ C/Cruppin      Sun 31st               6.00pm J.Slevin
Pearse Og v Tir na nOg         @ Davitt Park     Sun 31st              6.00pm O.Hearty
Other team in last eight Clan na Gael


is ogs game diff changes??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 19, 2008, 08:51:38 AM
Quote from: Real1995 on August 18, 2008, 10:00:56 PM

is ogs game diff changes??

The Ogs game is Saturday 6th September. 

Not too sure of the time though.  Probably 6pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 19, 2008, 11:12:51 AM
Thank F**k the championship is on us now as it has been a very boring year so far, training for about 7-8 months before a serious game is a long wait.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 19, 2008, 11:17:08 AM
Quote from: illdecide on August 19, 2008, 11:12:51 AM
Thank F**k the championship is on us now as it has been a very boring year so far, training for about 7-8 months before a serious game is a long wait.

Could be worse though, for all the praise i've landed on the Tyrone county board for their organisation skills & fixture organisation... there are clubs in Tyrone that, IMO, will not get their league campaigns finished now, as if they have county men, they don't have to play league matches!

It leaves the 'ordinary' club footballers playing challenge matches through the year!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 19, 2008, 11:19:16 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 24 AUGUST 2008


Wednesday 20 August

All-County 'B' League Final (7.15)
Killeavey v Silverbridge (Noel Martin) at Dromintee


Friday 22 August

Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round
Ballyhegan v St Peter's (Kevin Murtagh) at Portadown (7.00)
Crossmaglen Seconds v St Patrick's (Brendan Gorman) at Silverbridge (7.00)


Saturday 23 August

Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round
Annaghmore v Wolfe Tone (Vincent O'Neill) at Maghery (6.00)

Junior Football Championship 1st Round
Middletown v Corrinshego (Jim Lynch) at Ballymacnab (6.00)


Sunday 24 August

Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round
Clonmore v Madden (Paudie Hughes) at Pearse Og Park (2.00)

Junior Football Championship – 2nd Round
Eire Og v Tullysaran (Joe Murtagh) at Ballyhegan (6.00)
Mullaghbrack v Forkhill (Noel Martin) at Carrickcruppen (6.00)

ACL – Division One (2.00)
St Patrick's v Culloville (Paul Boylan)
Mullaghbawn v Clan na Gael (Jim Burns)
Killeavey v Crossmaglen (Eamon Nugent)
Maghery v Harps (Kevin McNeice)
Pearse Og v Dromintee (Seamus O'Neill) (5.00)

ACL – Division Two (2.00)
Clann Eireann v Whitecross (Rory Robinson)
Wolfe Tone v Keady (Off)
Granemore v Carrickcruppen (Kevin Murtagh)
Silverbridge v Tir na nÓg (Jim Slevin)
An Port Mor v St Michael's (Tony O'Hare)
Ballymacnab v Sarsfields (Kevin Gallogly)

ACL – Division Three (2.00)
Belleek v St Paul's (Patrick Duffy)
St Peter's v Madden (Off)
Clonmore v Tullysaran (Off)
Annaghmore v Crossmaglen II (Off)
Ballyhegan v Grange (Paul Rath)
Collegeland v Lissummon (Ronan Quigley)

ACL – Division Four (2.00)
Forkhill v Eire Og (Off)
Middletown v Dorsey Emmett's (Off)
O'Hanlon's v Derrynoose (Stephen McKinley)
Phelim Brady's v Clady (Jim Lynch)
Shane O'Neill's v Mullaghbrack (Off)
Dorsey Emmett's v Shane O'Neill's (Damian McConville)

We were mean't to play Culloville in Davitt on Saturday (arranged re-fixture between the two clubs) but i guess someone had other ideas
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on August 19, 2008, 01:33:08 PM
so does anyone know the truth about the ogs v tirnanog championship match????????? ???

there seems to be alot of rumours
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 19, 2008, 02:23:35 PM
Quote from: armaghtrue on August 19, 2008, 01:33:08 PM
so does anyone know the truth about the ogs v tirnanog championship match????????? ???

there seems to be alot of rumours

I thought it was explained fairly well. Their championship matched clashed with the hurling championship so they moved it back a week ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on August 19, 2008, 02:36:49 PM
just heard that the ogs v dromintee game will be played tomorrow nite 7pm at pearse og park. the championship switch has been explained in previous posts as illdecide says
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 19, 2008, 02:48:55 PM
Quote from: bubbles on August 19, 2008, 02:36:49 PM
just heard that the ogs v dromintee game will be played tomorrow nite 7pm at pearse og park. the championship switch has been explained in previous posts as illdecide says

this is correct
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 19, 2008, 04:26:59 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 19, 2008, 02:23:35 PM
Quote from: armaghtrue on August 19, 2008, 01:33:08 PM
so does anyone know the truth about the ogs v tirnanog championship match????????? ???

there seems to be alot of rumours

I thought it was explained fairly well. Their championship matched clashed with the hurling championship so they moved it back a week ::)

Why could they not just have moved the hurling fixture as it would not have such a 'knock-on' effect on the rest of the games as there are a lot less teams in the hurling championship than there is in the football championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on August 19, 2008, 04:48:29 PM
Tir na nog put in a request today to have the game played on the 31st after the ccc had said it was on the 6th. The ogs have agreed with this request. Match is on 6pm on the 31st. case closed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 19, 2008, 04:53:46 PM
Quote from: bubbles on August 19, 2008, 04:48:29 PM
Tir na nog put in a request today to have the game played on the 31st after the ccc had said it was on the 6th. The ogs have agreed with this request. Match is on 6pm on the 31st. case closed

good to have the match back on the 31st, sick of all this waiting about  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 19, 2008, 05:59:39 PM
Wonder will the Ogs put out a full squad??  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on August 19, 2008, 10:08:16 PM
thanks lads the reason i was askin was because i heard them rumours..   i was right to ask, typical clans man mouthin there ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 20, 2008, 09:34:56 AM
Quote from: armaghtrue on August 19, 2008, 10:08:16 PM
thanks lads the reason i was askin was because i heard them rumours..   i was right to ask, typical clans man mouthin there ::)

What are you talking about you p***k, i was only explaining what was said by them other guys. I just assumed you were thick and needed it explained to you >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 20, 2008, 05:46:19 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 20, 2008, 09:34:56 AM
Quote from: armaghtrue on August 19, 2008, 10:08:16 PM
thanks lads the reason i was askin was because i heard them rumours..   i was right to ask, typical clans man mouthin there ::)

What are you talking about you p***k, i was only explaining what was said by them other guys. I just assumed you were thick and needed it explained to you >:(
More mouthing  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 20, 2008, 08:26:35 PM
There he goes again he is like the  battery. Going going going. always jumping in when not wanted.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 20, 2008, 08:32:44 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 20, 2008, 08:26:35 PM
There he goes again he is like the  battery. Going going going. always jumping in when not wanted.
What are you on about?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 20, 2008, 09:03:30 PM
You should really try and stay out of these things pints especially when the argument is born out of a mistake.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 20, 2008, 09:06:00 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 20, 2008, 09:03:30 PM
You should really try and stay out of these things pints especially when the argument is born out of a mistake.
I should stay out of it?  Is it any of your business or do you just like holding illdecide's hand? - maybe that's the unexpected sexual pleasure he was talking about on another thread  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 20, 2008, 09:42:38 PM
Pearse Ogs beat dromintee tonight by 4 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 21, 2008, 09:21:05 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 20, 2008, 09:06:00 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 20, 2008, 09:03:30 PM
You should really try and stay out of these things pints especially when the argument is born out of a mistake.
I should stay out of it?  Is it any of your business or do you just like holding illdecide's hand? - maybe that's the unexpected sexual pleasure he was talking about on another thread  :D

Pints it was nothing to do with you, i explained to that other tube why the game was moved (and i was only repeating what one of the og's guys had said) then he starts saying typical clans slabber WTF...Then you butt you're greasy fat head into it like it had anything to do with you >:(. Why don't you go to other threads and talk the same shite about you're make up and whatever else you're into saan ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on August 21, 2008, 11:38:34 AM
I know I am gonna sound like a broken record but is there any betting up for outrights or the matches lads?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 21, 2008, 11:57:05 AM
Haven't seen any lad. Oh and pints once again you take things to another level. Called shite.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 21, 2008, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 20, 2008, 09:42:38 PM
Pearse Ogs beat dromintee tonight by 4 points

Didn't get but heard we were good in the first and awful in the second. Big Clarke in good form I hear?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 21, 2008, 01:23:31 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 21, 2008, 09:21:05 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 20, 2008, 09:06:00 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 20, 2008, 09:03:30 PM
You should really try and stay out of these things pints especially when the argument is born out of a mistake.
I should stay out of it?  Is it any of your business or do you just like holding illdecide's hand? - maybe that's the unexpected sexual pleasure he was talking about on another thread  :D

Pints it was nothing to do with you, i explained to that other tube why the game was moved (and i was only repeating what one of the og's guys had said) then he starts saying typical clans slabber WTF...Then you butt you're greasy fat head into it like it had anything to do with you >:(. Why don't you go to other threads and talk the same shite about you're make up and whatever else you're into saan ;)

:D :D :DFucking quality :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2008, 01:38:03 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 21, 2008, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 20, 2008, 09:42:38 PM
Pearse Ogs beat dromintee tonight by 4 points

Didn't get but heard we were good in the first and awful in the second. Big Clarke in good form I hear?

It wasn't the best match.  we had an awful wides in the first half but found a bit more form in the second half.  Dromintee struggled to get any breaking ball with the absence of Marty O'Rourke. 


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on August 21, 2008, 01:52:43 PM


Didn't get but heard we were good in the first and awful in the second. Big Clarke in good form I hear?
[/quote]

It was a poor match on the whole.... first half was terrible for the ogs in terms of wides (with clarke hittn most of them) but the ogs clicked better in the second half wen their danger men stayed closer to goal. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 21, 2008, 01:59:14 PM
Went out to watch it myself, you'd have been hard pressed to pick a county man from either side (R Clarke & AOR just about doing enough).  Gareth O'Neill never touched leather as far as I could see in FF or in aorund MF/HF, Dromintee are going to need a helluva lot more from him if they are going to test Cross.  The Ogs defence looks like they've been bulking up a bit and could give Cross a run in the physical stakes, still some light looking forwards though.  A game with nothing a stake so both teams hardly were going full pelt.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on August 21, 2008, 04:51:43 PM
I heard this afternoon that the Admission charges to the 1st round SFC games is £7.
Anyone confirm this as it seems a tad on the high side for single games?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 21, 2008, 04:52:52 PM
On a totally different topic who do you boys think will lift the minor championship this year?

I have seen a few of the teams and some have impressed while others are pretty poor. the following are the ones I have seen.

Killeavy - Looked pretty good with a couple of good forwards and looked pretty sharp.

Granemore - Very strong physically with some great players and definately capable of going one better than last year

Crossmaglen - Very big team and have a well balanced team with a class corner forward (Broad fella with blonde hair) who could easily turn any game. Good mid field

Ballymacnab - Decent outfit but carrying a couple of men. Only one forward (county Minor McParland) and they rely on him for 90% of scores keeper dodgy

Tullsaran - Nowhere near the standard

Tir na Og - not a bad team but defence can allow alot of space on the counter and probably lacking a bit of firepower to trouble better teams like Cross or Granemore.

From what Ive seen I would say the best ive seen are Cross and Granemore with Killeavey in 3rd hard to see any of the rest doing it.

Are there any other challengers that I havent seen folks? Heard Dromintee are supposed to have a good outfit this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 21, 2008, 06:51:06 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 21, 2008, 09:21:05 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 20, 2008, 09:06:00 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 20, 2008, 09:03:30 PM
You should really try and stay out of these things pints especially when the argument is born out of a mistake.
I should stay out of it?  Is it any of your business or do you just like holding illdecide's hand? - maybe that's the unexpected sexual pleasure he was talking about on another thread  :D

Pints it was nothing to do with you, i explained to that other tube why the game was moved (and i was only repeating what one of the og's guys had said) then he starts saying typical clans slabber WTF...Then you butt you're greasy fat head into it like it had anything to do with you >:(. Why don't you go to other threads and talk the same shite about you're make up and whatever else you're into saan ;)
Slabber slabber  ::)
Title: Minor
Post by: bennydorano on August 21, 2008, 07:36:14 PM
Harps minors are good, probably 2 or 3 positions short of being real top quality, they've had few ding-dongs with Granemore this year that were very tight - with a bit of luck you never know.  Think 12 of the starting 15 are eligible again next year so next year could be more realistic.  Haven't seen any S Armagh teams but I'd fancy Granemore.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on August 22, 2008, 08:31:38 AM
Quote from: billy the kid on August 21, 2008, 04:52:52 PM
On a totally different topic who do you boys think will lift the minor championship this year?

Tullysaran - Nowhere near the standard


I dont think they are competeing the year due to an admin error... boxes not ticked and all that!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 22, 2008, 10:02:37 AM
Minor football is very unpredictive, you just don't know what team will perform. It's nice to see some of the smaller clubs doing well at minor with the likes of Tullysaran, it's a pity they won't get to play in the championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 22, 2008, 11:00:07 AM
Cullyhanna are bound to be very strong? Tac?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 22, 2008, 11:07:26 AM
Quote from: illdecide on August 22, 2008, 10:02:37 AM
Minor football is very unpredictive,

bit like texting then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on August 22, 2008, 11:10:42 AM
Thursday, August 21.

Steven McDonnell says he will only commit to another season with Armagh if manager Peter McDonnell changes the brand of football the Ulster champions play.

The Killeavy man is intent on adding another All-Ireland medal to the one he won in 2002, but is still unconvinced that the current team can achieve that goal.

The 29-year-old will sit down with McDonnell before making any decision on his future during the close season.

"I'd love to go back because my goal is to win another All-Ireland, but we've got to change our brand of football to get near that target," McDonnell told the Irish Sun.

"It's early days. I'll take my time to decide whether to go back.

"There's part of me that wants to enjoy football with my club while I can, so I'll not make any decision until I talk to Peter McDonnell."

McDonnell enjoyed a vintage season with Armagh, but the Orchard County's All-Ireland campaign was derailed by Wexford at the quarter-final stage.

What do you make of this statement ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 22, 2008, 11:31:31 AM
Drop him :D But seriously he seems very cocky and laying the blame on everyone else, why can't he just shut up and get on with it. He makes it out like it's a chore playing for Armagh but if he could just get 1 more season. Who says P McDonnell will have him on the panel next year anyway :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on August 22, 2008, 12:22:49 PM
Thinking of taking in a few Intermediate games this weekend, any players of note, with the exception of the county players, that maybe worth looking out for in the Ballyhegan Vs St.Peter's, Wolfe Tones Vs Annaghmore & Madden Vs Clonmore game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 22, 2008, 01:28:53 PM
To Billy the Kid

Cross dont expect to win the minor championship this year as 13 of our team are under age again next year.
The corner forward you refer to is still under 16.

Cullyhanna are the team to beat but i fancy clans to go well having seen them recently in the all county minor league
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 22, 2008, 01:38:11 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 22, 2008, 01:28:53 PM
To Billy the Kid

Cross dont expect to win the minor championship this year as 13 of our team are under age again next year.
The corner forward you refer to is still under 16.

Cullyhanna are the team to beat but i fancy clans to go well having seen them recently in the all county minor league

That lads only 16? Very suprised at that hes a very strong lad with a great eye for a score and his movement of the ball is fantastic even now. Who is he def one to keep an eye on for the future.

Forgot about Armagh Harps seen them also this year and they are a good outfit but prob a player or two away this year and do alot of shouting at each other during games but if they are young this may explain it.

Also forgot I seen Ogs play or rather take the field, they were a very poor outfit.

Havent seen Cullyhanna but agree they should be good having won the U16 and Minor last year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 22, 2008, 02:46:16 PM
I believe this Cullyhanna side gavve Mayobridge a few hidings at u16 level - same players. Mayobridge are a v good side at this level so I will be expecting St Pats to continue their fine underage form of the last few years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 22, 2008, 04:41:44 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 22, 2008, 01:28:53 PM
To Billy the Kid

Cross dont expect to win the minor championship this year as 13 of our team are under age again next year.
The corner forward you refer to is still under 16.

Cullyhanna are the team to beat but i fancy clans to go well having seen them recently in the all county minor league


I was at the same game I think your referring to. Clans v Cross was a very entertaining minor game with Clans coming out on top. Judging on that game and others in the same group id fancy Clans to have a say in the championship however I havent seen Granemore or Cullyhana and I wouldnt think that Cross team would be easily beat either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 22, 2008, 06:04:32 PM
Quote from: MOJO on August 22, 2008, 12:22:49 PM
Thinking of taking in a few Intermediate games this weekend, any players of note, with the exception of the county players, that maybe worth looking out for in the Ballyhegan Vs St.Peter's, Wolfe Tones Vs Annaghmore & Madden Vs Clonmore game?

for tones niall lennon art corner back very tight marker.  ryan mcquillan very good player also was on armagh u21s 2 years ago but didnt get much of a look in due to the depth of talent on the panel.playing fb last few games but wasted there as a very good ball carrier.david heaney prob been our player of the year 24 plays chb norm or fb.  in the forwards emmet haughian good ball carrier shooting lets him down on occassions though.  tones guaranteed 10 plus wides forwards horrible!!

for st.peters keith totton(tots) can be dangerous in the forwards but you will have a sore head afer game likes to complain the odd bit.peters will rely mainly on davey wilson for the bulk of their scores. 

would imagine madden a few handy players top of 3rd and in u21 final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on August 22, 2008, 06:43:33 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 22, 2008, 06:04:32 PM
Quote from: MOJO on August 22, 2008, 12:22:49 PM
Thinking of taking in a few Intermediate games this weekend, any players of note, with the exception of the county players, that maybe worth looking out for in the Ballyhegan Vs St.Peter's, Wolfe Tones Vs Annaghmore & Madden Vs Clonmore game?

for tones niall lennon art corner back very tight marker.  ryan mcquillan very good player also was on armagh u21s 2 years ago but didnt get much of a look in due to the depth of talent on the panel.playing fb last few games but wasted there as a very good ball carrier.david heaney prob been our player of the year 24 plays chb norm or fb.  in the forwards emmet haughian good ball carrier shooting lets him down on occassions though.  tones guaranteed 10 plus wides forwards horrible!!

for st.peters keith totton(tots) can be dangerous in the forwards but you will have a sore head afer game likes to complain the odd bit.peters will rely mainly on davey wilson for the bulk of their scores. 

would imagine madden a few handy players top of 3rd and in u21 final

paddy pundit
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 22, 2008, 08:07:34 PM
I'm surprised back of the net is surfing around when his club's playing a championship match.
You missing the game back of the net?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 22, 2008, 08:33:43 PM
Cullyhanna beat Crossmaglen 3rds by a point tonight in the intermediate championship 1-13 to 2-9.
Good game
Cross missed a lot of chances especially in the first 15 mins
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RICH TEA on August 22, 2008, 08:56:48 PM
OH MY GOD, WAS AT THE ST PATS V'S CROSS 2ND's IN THE BRIDGE, FIRST 10 MINS CROSS WAS ALL OVER THEM AND MISSED LOTS OF SCORE. THEN CULLYHANNA CAME INTO IT A BIT WHEN THE REF GIVE THEM EVERYTHING (AT LEAST 3 POINTS IN THE FIRST HALF PLUS A PENO AND ANOTHER POINT IN THE SECOND) CROSS PLAYED WELL IN THE SECOND HALF AS DID ST PATS. LAST FEW MINUTES CROSS MISSED 2 SITTERS. PATS WON BY ONE POINT.
THIS IS THE TEAM THATS FAVOURITE, THEY WILL NEED TO IMPROVE 100% B4 THEY CAN THINK ABOUT WINNING ANY MORE CHAMP MATCHES.

UNDERDOGS WERE BIT BETTER ON THE NIGHT. BUT NOT SURE HOW MUCH FURTHER THEY WOULD HAVE WENT ????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 22, 2008, 10:11:15 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 22, 2008, 08:33:43 PM
Cullyhanna beat Crossmaglen 3rds by a point tonight in the intermediate championship 1-13 to 2-9.
Good game
Cross missed a lot of chances especially in the first 15 mins


Dont you mean their 2nds - you twit!! :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 22, 2008, 10:49:00 PM
No i don't !!!

We have 34 players on the senior panel. :) :) :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 22, 2008, 11:19:31 PM
15 +15 =30  that leaves 4?? You are confusing me too crossfire
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 22, 2008, 11:47:52 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 22, 2008, 10:49:00 PM
No i don't !!!

We have 34 players on the senior panel. :) :) :)


My club has over 30 on our senior panel but we dont call our second string our 3rds you pompus p***k!! ;) Its common for senior panels to have that amount on the panel.  Do you even play son? Yous have 34 on your senior panel and id say another 40 odd split between your 2NDs and B teams. Thats in the region of 75 players and I bet your not one of them! ;D Well you do your bit I suppose - every club needs its slabber! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 23, 2008, 12:00:51 AM
Why is it that the Clans men can't speak to someone without calling names?  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on August 23, 2008, 12:20:55 AM
if you call that your 3rd team tonight i must be wrong but i could have picked out at least 5 to 6 players that are on your first team squad so on less im seeing things i must be wrong or these boys were brought down to play tonight and leave the boys that played all winter on the bench.that st pats team is the team your first team only beat with all your county men playing and cullyhanna had not got liam o hare or ciaran mc keever by 5 points so it was just a off night for them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on August 23, 2008, 10:34:48 AM
Any word on st peters v Ballyhagan???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on August 23, 2008, 11:09:55 AM
Ballyhagan beat St Peters by a point last nite in the intermediate championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 23, 2008, 11:39:59 AM
Quote from: crossfire on August 22, 2008, 08:33:43 PM
Cullyhanna beat Crossmaglen 3rds by a point tonight in the intermediate championship 1-13 to 2-9.
Good game
Cross missed a lot of chances especially in the first 15 mins

Just a question for yous Cross men on the board regarding your B team and IIs/IIIs

Which team (Bs or IIs/IIIs) would be higher in the pecking order (next down from seniors)?

In Derry all teams have a reserve team that play in their own county league and some of the bigger clubs have a IIIs team that play in the lower divisions of the Senior all county league.

The Senior team is obviously first. You have to name 18 players at start of the year as out and out senior (although teams have been known to name ex players who are in USA etc and wont even be in the country all season) this 18 cannot play reserve league and county senior players cannot play reserve league.  All other seniors are free to play reserve league if required. 

Then the reserve teams are next (Essentially IIs) and would be the same as B teams in Armagh.

Then there are the IIIs teams some of the bigger clubs have.  If a club has a IIIs team it has to name a certain number (15 I think) that will be out and out IIIs players and these players will be IIIs players all year and cannot play for the reserves or the seniors at all.

(There are a whole different set of rules around championship at the 3 levels)

In Derry the pecking order within a club would be:

Senior

Reserve (your Bs)

IIIs (Only in some bigger clubs)

If the Cross team called the IIs are behind the Bs they essentially are the IIIs and Crossfire is right.

But if they are ahead of the Bs they are correctly named the IIs and Crossfire is being arrogant.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RICH TEA on August 23, 2008, 11:46:25 AM
everyone here is getting away from the point and getting stuck on what crossfire said about it being cross thirds, it was in fact cross seconds and everyone knows that. the senior penel boys you are talking about is 3 boys who only get a shout with the seniors when the county men are not available and there are 3 of them, o calaghan, clarke and ahearn and they didnt even start last night as they had not been with this team all year but when they came on they played very well. fair enough cullyhanna won and well done to them but credit were credits due to these bunch of lads from cross who were complete underdogs, never played together all year and they prob desereved at least a draw last night.
but crossfire a lot of clubs have a big senior panel also., cross have a large parish also. cross seconds did well but not enough.

enough said, it was a great game to watch. when it the draw for the next round??? and when is it???.
has anyone the dates for the rest of the inter championships this year??  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 23, 2008, 12:14:48 PM
Did I annoy someone.??? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 23, 2008, 12:15:48 PM
I wouldn't really class Fish as a man who only gets a look in when the county men are away - unfair comment on the lad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 23, 2008, 12:39:06 PM

Did that fish ahern lad come on for cross last night? find that very hard to believe
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 23, 2008, 12:46:51 PM
Fish didn't play. He isn't eligible having played senior last year.

The only members of the senior panel who started last nights game were Ryan Carragher and Jamie Clarke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 23, 2008, 02:32:10 PM

Bit strange to rule lads like that out of the senior championship but i suppose cross have plenty of options ahead of those lads
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 23, 2008, 02:55:02 PM
Quote from: Uladh on August 23, 2008, 02:32:10 PM

Bit strange to rule lads like that out of the senior championship but i suppose cross have plenty of options ahead of those lads

are they not still elligible to play next week?  I thought it was only if u'd played in the senior championship that you couldn't play for the reserves, and not the other way about.  Did this same scenario not happen last year with Rico Kelly against the Harps?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bud on August 23, 2008, 03:17:03 PM
Surely cross 1st and 2nds have to be treated as two seperate teams.
If they were treated as one they could play their seniors in the intermediate championship or the third divison (bar those in the 1st 15).

For example i couldn't line out for clann eireann in division 2 one week and then for st peters in divisions 3 the next, i would need a transfer!  Why should cross be allowed this option.
Surely they should have a named squad for both teams with players not allowed to interchange unless they transfer between sides as would happen with any other teams in the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 23, 2008, 03:40:20 PM

You can't play in two different championships (intermediat & senior) within the same county in one year. that's my understanding GAA rules anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 23, 2008, 04:09:50 PM
It could possibly have been for the b team last year. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 23, 2008, 05:10:35 PM
Something happened about Rico alright, think we were told you can step up a grade to play but not down, maybe Rico never played in the championship for Cross 2nds but was registered on their league panel?  I cant remember the exact details.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 23, 2008, 06:33:15 PM
Benny technically if you step up a grade say to senior level from Intermidiate and you play, after you have played intermediate . Then you have actually stepped up and down, because as someone correctly pointed out you have played in two different championships in the one year (though i know what you are saying). Hardly fair on the lesser teams. But i could see how it would be a nightmare to regulate and only those with the saddest of lives would find the nit to pick. It would be a perfect job for pints ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 23, 2008, 06:53:09 PM
More mouthing and slabbering from a clans man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 23, 2008, 07:12:06 PM
Dont know the in's and outs of it nor care about the rights or wrongs of it but I'm near sure that's what we were told.  Any possiblity that rules were broken and the Co board turned a blind eye?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 23, 2008, 09:23:52 PM
think you can play in intermediate  unless you have played in senior. i think rico played in intermediate and as senior championship was at a later date he played in both. if seniors had been before intermediate it would have ruled him out of playing. so u can step up but not down a grade.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 23, 2008, 09:45:07 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 23, 2008, 07:12:06 PM
Dont know the in's and outs of it nor care about the rights or wrongs of it but I'm near sure that's what we were told.  Any possiblity that rules were broken and the Co board turned a blind eye?


Yoy must be jokin Benny! Take a second and think about how stupid your statement is! The county board turning a blind eye to something that suits Cross!! No chance man.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 24, 2008, 03:09:14 AM
Jealous Lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 24, 2008, 09:16:30 AM
You can play for any lower classifiaction team in the championship and then play for a higher level team.  It happens all the time in Cork.  In my club we have 3 junior teams and some players play in 3 championships in one year.  Also you can play for your junior/intermediate team and then play for your senior divisional team. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sean og on August 24, 2008, 10:12:46 AM
Draws are being made tonight in c/cruppen i think
after the match. Should be interesting?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on August 24, 2008, 02:38:11 PM
in Down, if you play Reserve, you can play Senior, but if you play in the Senior Chamionship, you can't play Reserve in the same year, or the year after!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: midfeild on August 24, 2008, 06:22:22 PM
In responce to the armagh minor championship topic



In south armagh theres only 4 teams good enough 2 win the minor championship an thats the 4 teams which made the all county league, cullyhanna, cruppen, killeavy and cross, having seen them all this an in previous years cullyhanna still team 2 beat as there all ready in soth armagh league final, cruppen have a good team with a number of them playin in that u 21 side that are in the final an onli 4 poor run in  all county league wud have been favourites 2 win the minor championship beating cullyhanna an every other team in south armagh, although cullyhanna did avenge of that defeat by hamerin them in the all county ! killeavy are good side who have came on well an are in the south armagh leauge final vs cullyhanna an i think are top of there group with clans in the all county league ! Cross are very young team with the majority of thier plyers u 16 , they are a hard team 2 beat as any minor team in south armagh will tell you an you wudnt rule them out of championship sucesss ! that wud be all in south armagh , outside of it i heard the teams to beat are granemore, harps, sarfeilds, clans & maghery !
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 24, 2008, 07:06:04 PM
any word on the draws?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 24, 2008, 07:39:24 PM
tones beat annaghmore 1 13 to 9 points sat night in maghery.went in 2 up at the break and scored a fortunate goal after the restart went for a point ball hit post and gerard mcmahon pouched a goal,he ended up without about 1 3 from play.we whrre always in the driving seat annaghmore offered bvery little threat only scored 2 points from play john mccormack landed 8 of their 9 points.good performace esp in defence but alot tougher ties will lie ahead in the 1/4 final.

was talking to a fella after the game and appsarantly shane smyth stormed off before te game for annaghmore whenhe wasnt named in starting lineup,hardly good preparation before the game!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 24, 2008, 08:38:11 PM
Tullysaran beat Eire Og in the junior championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 24, 2008, 10:22:53 PM
mullaghbawn beat clans by a point,plenty of goals in the game-5 in al...any word why harpsv maghery and cross v killeavy were called off...final league table?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 24, 2008, 10:38:01 PM
intermediate championship

cullaville v wolfe tones
silverbridge v keady
cullyhanna v madden
sarsfields v ballyhegan

junior championship

forkhill v middletown
tullysarron v derrynoose or grange
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 24, 2008, 10:50:08 PM
Quote
cullaville v wolfe tones
silverbridge v keady
cullyhanna v madden
sarsfields v ballyhegan

Interesting
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 24, 2008, 11:51:14 PM
,looks like cullavllle,cullyhanna,sarsfield and keady.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 24, 2008, 11:53:50 PM
I don't think senior players hould be aloowed to line oput in intermediate, it belittles it a bit do you not think?

Als otaking Cross as the obvious example:

Situation A) if the second team came up to the first division, would they be allowed to enter the league whilst the first team was in it?

B) Same for Champi = if tyhey won intermediate and had to go up, could they and what would happen if they drew Cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on August 25, 2008, 01:13:27 AM
Quoteif tyhey won intermediate and had to go up, could they and what would happen if they drew Cross?

I think Cross would win this fixture. This would not be especially unusual as they have not lost in their last 50 odd championship games in Armagh!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 25, 2008, 09:10:48 AM
Not what I mean, I meant would it go ahead.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 25, 2008, 09:18:31 AM
Friday 22 August

Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round
Ballyhegan 1-9; St Peter's 0-11
Crossmaglen Seconds 2-9; St Patrick's 1-13


Saturday 23 August

Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round
Annaghmore 0-8; Wolfe Tone 1-13

Junior Football Championship 1st Round
Middletown 1-14; Corrinshego 2-3


Sunday 24 August

Intermediate Football Championship – 1st Round
Clonmore 1-7; Madden 2-9

Junior Football Championship – 2nd Round
Eire Og 1-7; Tullysaran 1-14
Mullaghbrack 0-11; Forkhill 2-10

ACL – Division One
St Patrick's 2-14; Culloville 2-6
Mullaghbawn 3-9; Clan na Gael 2-11
Killeavey v Crossmaglen (Off)
Maghery v Harps (Off)
Pearse Og defeated Dromintee

ACL – Division Two
Clann Eireann 0-9; Whitecross 0-12
Wolfe Tone v Keady (Off)
Granemore 0-12; Carrickcruppen 2-9
Silverbridge 1-13; Tir na nÓg 2-11
An Port Mor 1-11; St Michael's 2-9
Ballymacnab 0-16; Sarsfields 2-9

ACL – Division Three
Belleek 1-8; St Paul's 0-5
St Peter's v Madden (Off)
Clonmore v Tullysaran (Off)
Annaghmore v Crossmaglen II (Off)
Ballyhegan 0-13; Grange 1-6
Collegeland 0-11; Lissummon 0-7

ACL – Division Four
Forkhill v Eire Og (Off)
Middletown v Dorsey Emmett's (Off)
O'Hanlon's v Derrynoose (Off)
Phelim Brady's 1-6; Clady 0-6
Shane O'Neill's v Mullaghbrack (Off)
Dorsey Emmett's 1-3; Shane O'Neill's 6-20
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 25, 2008, 11:35:31 AM
Quote

B) Same for Champi = if tyhey won intermediate and had to go up, could they and what would happen if they drew Cross?

I'm not sure what the rule in Armagh is or if there's an agreement between Cross and the county board that they wouldn't be promoted but it is permissible under the rule of the GAA I think as a couple of years back in DUblin the St Brigid's firsts team drew their seconds in the senior championship. Maybe some of the dublin lads could fill in a bit on the detail.


Quoteintermediate championship

cullaville v wolfe tones
silverbridge v keady
cullyhanna v madden
sarsfields v ballyhegan

Was away at a wedding all weekend so I can't comment on the match itself. The only thing I'll say about the draw is that Madden will revive a few bad memories for a lot of Cullyhanna men!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 25, 2008, 11:37:10 AM
QuoteSilverbridge 1-13; Tir na nÓg 2-11
God I'm sick of one point losses.

I think that's the 6th loss (out of 8 ) by a point.
(another one being by two points)  :-\


Will someone post up the league tables from orchardcounty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 25, 2008, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 24, 2008, 07:39:24 PM
tones beat annaghmore 1 13 to 9 points sat night in maghery.went in 2 up at the break and scored a fortunate goal after the restart went for a point ball hit post and gerard mcmahon pouched a goal,he ended up without about 1 3 from play.we whrre always in the driving seat annaghmore offered bvery little threat only scored 2 points from play john mccormack landed 8 of their 9 points.good performace esp in defence but alot tougher ties will lie ahead in the 1/4 final.

was talking to a fella after the game and appsarantly shane smyth stormed off before te game for annaghmore whenhe wasnt named in starting lineup,hardly good preparation before the game!!

I think david McKeown is usually an authority on annaghmore and i saw him knocking about earlier?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 25, 2008, 12:50:52 PM
From Orchard County
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 24th AUGUST 2008

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 17 15 2 0 32
Pearse Og 17 9 4 4 22
St Patrick's 17 9 1 7 19
Culloville 17 8 1 8 17
Killeavey 17 8 1 8 17
Mullaghbawn 18 7 2 9 16
Clan na Gael 17 6 3 8 15
Dromintee 18 7 1 10 15
Harps 17 4 3 10 11
Maghery 17 3 2 12 8

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 20 15 1 4 31
Carrickcruppen 20 13 1 6 27
Tir na nÓg 18 13 0 5 26
St Michael's 20 10 1 9 21
Granemore 19 10 0 9 20
Silverbridge 18 9 1 8 19
Clann Eireann 19 9 1 9 19
Ballymacnab 19 7 1 10 15
Wolfe Tone 17 7 0 10 14
Whitecross 18 7 0 11 14
Keady 15 4 1 10 9
An Port Mor 19 3 1 15 7

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Madden 17 14 2 1 30
St Paul's 18 12 1 5 25
Collegeland 18 11 2 5 24
Belleek 17 9 3 5 21
Ballyhegan 16 10 0 6 20
Annaghmore 18 10 0 8 20
St Peter's 18 7 3 8 17
Lissummon 17 5 3 9 13
Tullysaran 16 4 3 9 11
Clonmore 18 4 3 11 11
Crossmaglen II 17 3 3 11 9
Grange 18 3 1 14 7

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 16 15 1 0 31
Middletown 15 10 3 2 23
Eire Og 16 11 1 4 23
Derrynoose 14 10 0 4 20
Forkhill 16 9 1 6 19
Clady 16 7 2 7 16
O'Hanlon's 15 7 0 8 14
Corrinshego 15 4 1 10 9
Mullaghbrack 16 4 1 11 9
Dorsey Emmett's 16 3 0 13 6
Phelim Brady's 17 1 0 16 2

There's probably a few discrepancies with this table.  I know the Pearse Ogs are finished the league.  the game missing is from the St Pats abandoned match.  I dunno if we got the points or not.  It wont make any difference to the order anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 25, 2008, 12:57:27 PM
Interesting run in for division two between Cruppen and Tir na Nog. Portadown would appear to be in pole position, but two wins for Cruppen and who know?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 25, 2008, 01:16:45 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 25, 2008, 12:57:27 PM
Interesting run in for division two between Cruppen and Tir na Nog. Portadown would appear to be in pole position, but two wins for Cruppen and who know?

Tir na nogs remaining games are:

Clann Eireann & Whitecross (home)
Granemore & Keady (away)

Sarsfields have Clann Eireann at home and Silverbridge away


I don't know what Cruppens last two games are
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 25, 2008, 01:26:18 PM
Real what did you make of Hearty's performce yesterday in the middle.????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on August 25, 2008, 01:28:38 PM
cruppens last two games are wolfe tones and an port mor both in carrickcruppen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 25, 2008, 01:37:02 PM

according to that table, cruppen have two more games to play than cruppen?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 25, 2008, 01:39:55 PM
Tir Na nog have 4 games left

Sarsfields 2 games

cruppen 2 games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 25, 2008, 02:15:20 PM
Interesting - Cruppen certain to get two wins.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 25, 2008, 02:16:07 PM
Win didn get to it 2b honest, and i havin heard any reports either...was he poor??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on August 25, 2008, 02:52:35 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on August 24, 2008, 10:38:01 PM
intermediate championship

cullaville v wolfe tones
silverbridge v keady
cullyhanna v madden
sarsfields v ballyhegan

anyone know when the dates/venues for these games will be fixed?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RICH TEA on August 25, 2008, 03:39:48 PM
not 100% but the papers today have the 6th sept
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 25, 2008, 05:04:19 PM
 I thought he was very poor but if i say this i will be again accused of being bias!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 25, 2008, 05:43:01 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 25, 2008, 02:15:20 PM
Interesting - Cruppen certain to get two wins.
I kinda fancy Tir na og to go up but if Cruppen get two wins there will be a lot of pressure on them. 
Sarsfields have done extremely well.

An Port Mor are gone and keady  look to be going with them - hopefully they'll be preoccupied with the fight to stay up and pass no remarks of the championship!


Who was it predicting keady was going to go down at the start of year - charlie?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 25, 2008, 05:49:14 PM
yes pints though keady would drop down saw us play them last year and where horrible and saw bwater against us in he 1st league game and they where worse!!

interesting draw in intermediate.tough draw for us but we owe cullaville onw from last year.will go in big underdogs but favourites tag doesnt norm suit us!would predict the bridge cullyhanna and sarsfields all to progess from the other games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 25, 2008, 05:54:28 PM
With the intermediate draw you'd expect Cullaville, Sarsfields, Cullyhanna and ourselves to be be favourites but you just know it won't work out like that.  Definitely a possibility the for the Tones to come through and I think our own game has banana skin wrote all over it, you can be sure Keady won't make it easy. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 25, 2008, 06:55:10 PM
Cullaville will beat the Tones by at least 5 points in the intermediate championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 25, 2008, 10:08:05 PM
Minor championship kicked off tonight...Mullaghbawn beat middletown by ten points.  we played 40 mins with 14 men.......face madden now in the first round
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 25, 2008, 10:27:57 PM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 31 AUGUST 2008


Monday 25 August

Minor Football Championship – Preliminary Round
Mullaghbawn v Middletown (Barney Henry) at Mullaghbawn (7.00)


Friday 29 August

Junior Football Championship – 2nd Round
Derrynoose v Grange (Kevin McNeice) at Abbey Park (7.00)


Saturday 30 August

Senior Football Championship – 1st Round
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn (Mickey Leonard) at Silverbridge (6.00)
Carrickcruppen v Harps (Gary Smith) at Keady (6.00)
Killeavey v Maghery (Ger Devlin) at Pearse Og Park (6.00)


Sunday 31 August

Senior Football Championship – 1st Round
Clann Eireann v St Michael's (Jimmy McKee) at Abbey Park (2.00)
Granemore v Whitecross (Rory Robinson) at Cullyhanna (2.00)
Crossmaglen v Dromintee (Jim Slevin) at Carrickcruppen (6.00)
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg (Oliver Hearty) at Davitt Park (6.00)

ACL – Division Two (2.00)
Silverbridge v Wolfe Tone (Patrick Duffy)

ACL – Division Three (2.00)
St Paul's v Collegeland (Kevin Gallogly)
Crossmaglen II v St Peter's (Vincent O'Neill)
Grange v Madden (Seamus O'Neill)
Tullysaran v Annaghmore (Barney Henry)
Ballyhegan v Belleek (Kevin McNeice)
Lissummon v Annaghmore (Paudie Hughes)

ACL – Division Four (2.00)
Mullaghbrack v Corrinshego (Jim Lynch)
Clady v Shane O'Neill's (Jim Burns)
Derrynoose v Phelim Brady's (Stephen McKinley)
Dorsey Emmett's v O'Hanlon's (Paul Boylan)
Eire Og v Middletown (Ronan Quigley)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 25, 2008, 11:18:58 PM
INTERMEDIATE & JUNIOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Below are details of the County Intermediate & Junior Football Championships:-

Intermediate Football Championship – Quarter-Finals
Saturday 6 September (5.30)
Culloville v Wolfe Tone at Pearse Og Park
Keady v Silverbridge at Ballymacnab
Ballyhegan v Sarsfields at Davitt Park

Saturday 13 September (5.30)
Madden v St Patrick's at Keady


Junior Football Championship – Semi-Finals
Sunday 28 September
Derrynoose v Grange/Tullysaran at Athletic Grounds (2.00)
Forkhill v Middletown at Athletic Grounds (4.00)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 26, 2008, 08:19:56 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 25, 2008, 11:18:58 PM
INTERMEDIATE & JUNIOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS

Below are details of the County Intermediate & Junior Football Championships:-

Intermediate Football Championship – Quarter-Finals
Saturday 6 September (5.30)
Culloville v Wolfe Tone at Pearse Og Park
Keady v Silverbridge at Ballymacnab
Ballyhegan v Sarsfields at Davitt Park

Saturday 13 September (5.30)
Madden v St Patrick's at Keady


Junior Football Championship – Semi-Finals
Sunday 28 September
Derrynoose v Grange/Tullysaran at Athletic Grounds (2.00)
Forkhill v Middletown at Athletic Grounds (4.00)

its about time too!!  :o :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on August 26, 2008, 10:45:07 AM
well holy jaysus, i never thought i'd live to see it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 26, 2008, 12:58:22 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on August 26, 2008, 10:45:07 AM
well holy jaysus, i never thought i'd live to see it

only believe it when the match actually takes place in front of you're eyes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 26, 2008, 01:01:29 PM

This is the first week i've missed being at home. missing armagh games ain't that disappointing when they're on telly but senior club championship getting underway is still a bit special
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 26, 2008, 01:53:02 PM
I agree with that sentiment entirely.  I reckon I'll get to about 4 games this weekend.  Only one causing me a dilemma is whether to go to the Cross v Dromintee or Ogs v Portadown, both games have the potential to be either walkovers or very close.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 26, 2008, 02:05:39 PM
The only game i'll get to is in Davitt with Og's v Porty (well i hope to get to it if we're back in time from our stag weekend ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 26, 2008, 02:24:36 PM

If i were going i'd take in

Derrynoose v Grange
Killeavey v Maghery
Granemore v Whitecross and
Crossmaglen v Dromintee

Obviously if whichever idiot sorts the fixtures wasn't on copious amounts of narcotics i could take in a lot more than that.

Cross game would be my advice benny - Thay've never hammered dromintee to my memory
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 26, 2008, 04:27:46 PM
Benny i think you have hit the nail on the head with what you said. I will be taking in the the Og's game. I think there s more potential there for an upset.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 26, 2008, 04:33:19 PM
Pearse Og's should win this game by 4/5 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 26, 2008, 04:37:28 PM

Yeah, no Brian mallon means no upset here i'd say.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 26, 2008, 04:45:57 PM
Quote from: Uladh on August 26, 2008, 04:37:28 PM

Yeah, no Brian mallon means no upset here i'd say.

Did i miss something?? Whats wrong with B Mallon
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 26, 2008, 04:59:17 PM
It won't matter even wthout Mallon the Tir Na Nog lads will be hard to beat i'm tellin you. What has happened Brian ??? is it something to do with the leg again???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 26, 2008, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 26, 2008, 01:53:02 PM
both games have the potential to be either walkovers or very close.


Thats extremely astute analysis!! ;D Does every game not provide this potential?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on August 26, 2008, 09:59:58 PM
No.1 - IVEDECIDED, stop being a twisty shite

No.2 - Brian Mallon done his hamstring after 5mins against Silverbridge on Sunday... I would take the Ogs to win by 8
Title: Madden GFC Presents Charity Match for Newry Hospice
Post by: armagh leg-end on August 26, 2008, 11:08:09 PM
Madden GFC Present this charity match in aid of Newry Hospice.

A number of current and former county stars will be representing each club along with some legends of Madden GFC.

This match is part of the celebrations for the 75th Anniversary of the club.

All Support Appreciated!

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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on August 27, 2008, 09:17:01 AM
Quote from: nashville on August 26, 2008, 09:59:58 PM

No.2 - Brian Mallon done his hamstring after 5mins against Silverbridge on Sunday... I would take the Ogs to win by 8

Or did he????                     Sounds like a championship ploy to me!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 27, 2008, 09:22:23 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on August 27, 2008, 09:17:01 AM
Quote from: nashville on August 26, 2008, 09:59:58 PM

No.2 - Brian Mallon done his hamstring after 5mins against Silverbridge on Sunday... I would take the Ogs to win by 8

Or did he????                     Sounds like a championship ploy to me!!!!

a cunning plan  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 27, 2008, 11:13:55 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 25, 2008, 06:55:10 PM
Cullaville will beat the Tones by at least 5 points in the intermediate championship.

they only beat us by 4 last year in the semi and we have got rid of that clown paul mckenna so who knows!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on August 27, 2008, 11:27:36 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 27, 2008, 09:22:23 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on August 27, 2008, 09:17:01 AM
Quote from: nashville on August 26, 2008, 09:59:58 PM

No.2 - Brian Mallon done his hamstring after 5mins against Silverbridge on Sunday... I would take the Ogs to win by 8

Or did he????                     Sounds like a championship ploy to me!!!!

a cunning plan  ;)

Considering that they are still fighting for promotion, taking your best player off after 5mins would seem a bit strange..

In all honesty though, reports I've heard say he pulled up in agony
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on August 27, 2008, 12:05:26 PM

Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn (Mickey Leonard) at Silverbridge (6.00)

I reckon mullaghbawn will have too much senior championship experience and knowhow for the nab. despite all the scoring potential being on the ballymacnab side i'll go for a narrow bawn win

Carrickcruppen v Harps (Gary Smith) at Keady (6.00)

Tough one to call with teams around similar levels. the clown of a referee for this one might even sway things. i'll go for cruppen's winning habit and u21 success to scrape them a narrow win

Killeavey v Maghery (Ger Devlin) at Pearse Og Park (6.00)

another tough call. i think maghery put killeavy out last year? killeavy have the experience of a successful div one campaign under their belt and with the firepower thy theoretically have they should just beat a relegated maghery outfit.

Clann Eireann v St Michael's (Jimmy McKee) at Abbey Park (2.00)

two more evenly matched teams but i'll go for newtown's battling qualities and a bit more cuteness to prevail by 4 or 5

Granemore v Whitecross (Rory Robinson) at Cullyhanna (2.00)

Given that i think big toner is injured and that whitecross were a division one team last year, i'll guess that whitecross should have a big championship performance in them and i'll take them to win by 3 or 4

Crossmaglen v Dromintee (Jim Slevin) at Carrickcruppen (6.00)

A more interesting tie than most people think i believe. Cross are rumoured to be without big McKenna and and maybe a couple more with injury. i'll go for a dromintee win now that noone actually expectsthem to run cross close.

Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg (Oliver Hearty) at Davitt Park (6.00)

pearse og could get things very sticky here and once again the ref appointed could make a hames of things. until reaching the county final last year, og's championship pedigree has been woeful in recent years but i think they should have enough to beat the div 2 high fliers

Clans If barry john is available the lurgan aristocrats should do just enough to get themselves in the hat for quarter finals
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 27, 2008, 01:37:23 PM
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn
Carrickcruppen v Harps
Killeavey v Maghery
Clann Eireann v St Michael's
Granemore v Whitecross
Crossmaglen v Dromintee
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg

Thats my predictions for the weekends action
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 27, 2008, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: BenDover on August 27, 2008, 01:37:23 PM
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn
Carrickcruppen v Harps
Killeavey v Maghery
Clann Eireann v St Michael’s
Granemore v Whitecross
Crossmaglen v Dromintee
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg

Thats my predictions for the weekends action

I think I'd have to agree with those predictions Ben.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 27, 2008, 02:05:41 PM
Same here except for Whitecross to defeat Granemore.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 27, 2008, 02:17:02 PM
Well i hear Barry John is fit so we should scrape into the quarters. But thats as far as we'll go...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 27, 2008, 02:17:12 PM
Quote from: The GAA on August 27, 2008, 12:05:26 PM

Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn (Mickey Leonard) at Silverbridge (6.00)

I reckon mullaghbawn will have too much senior championship experience and knowhow for the nab. despite all the scoring potential being on the ballymacnab side i'll go for a narrow bawn win

Carrickcruppen v Harps (Gary Smith) at Keady (6.00)

Tough one to call with teams around similar levels. the clown of a referee for this one might even sway things. i'll go for cruppen's winning habit and u21 success to scrape them a narrow win

Killeavey v Maghery (Ger Devlin) at Pearse Og Park (6.00)

another tough call. i think maghery put killeavy out last year? killeavy have the experience of a successful div one campaign under their belt and with the firepower thy theoretically have they should just beat a relegated maghery outfit.

Clann Eireann v St Michael's (Jimmy McKee) at Abbey Park (2.00)

two more evenly matched teams but i'll go for newtown's battling qualities and a bit more cuteness to prevail by 4 or 5

Granemore v Whitecross (Rory Robinson) at Cullyhanna (2.00)

Given that i think big toner is injured and that whitecross were a division one team last year, i'll guess that whitecross should have a big championship performance in them and i'll take them to win by 3 or 4

Crossmaglen v Dromintee (Jim Slevin) at Carrickcruppen (6.00)

A more interesting tie than most people think i believe. Cross are rumoured to be without big McKenna and and maybe a couple more with injury. i'll go for a dromintee win now that noone actually expectsthem to run cross close.

Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg (Oliver Hearty) at Davitt Park (6.00)

pearse og could get things very sticky here and once again the ref appointed could make a hames of things. until reaching the county final last year, og's championship pedigree has been woeful in recent years but i think they should have enough to beat the div 2 high fliers

Clans If barry john is available the lurgan aristocrats should do just enough to get themselves in the hat for quarter finals


Not sure about this actually - the way the Clans have been the past few weeks I think they might actually loose the bye!! :D :D :D

I think Cruppen could beat the Harps and Portadown could manage a darw at least if they play well. In fact I wouldnt rule out a number of draws in this round. These may include the Kileavy match, Clan Eireann and granemore matches.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 27, 2008, 02:21:52 PM
Was looking at league tables and decided to hoke out this post making predictions for relegation and promotion and was surprised to see how many could still come to pass.


GAA Discussion / Local GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh Club football & hurling  on: June 04, 2008, 03:21:09 PM

Div 1/2 think Killeavy and Maghery will go down  With Tir na nOg and Sarsfield/Cruppen going up. at a push I would say Cruppen

Div2/3 two from Ballymacnab, An port Mor and Keady to go down, prob Nab and An Port Mor. Fancy Collegeland and Madden to make it up.

Div3/4 Tullysarran and Grange to go down as Cross II will get minors and u21s out to win games if need be later in the year. Fancy shane Oneills and Middletown to maintain it and gain promotion.

Div4/Ladies football Phelim Brady's to drop down to Ladies football after another fruitless season - and they would prob win the thing as the standard is that low.

Ladies football Matches should be played behind closed doors where nobody has to watch it.
Killeavy are def not going down but apart from that I think all other predictions have either come true, look like coming true or are going to be very close to coming true.

Sorry forgot about Bradys they got their first win so wont be dropping down and winning All-Ireland clubs at the womens attempt at football.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 27, 2008, 03:01:47 PM
Quote from: BenDover on August 27, 2008, 01:37:23 PM
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn
Carrickcruppen v Harps
Killeavey v Maghery
Clann Eireann v St Michael's
Granemore v Whitecross
Crossmaglen v Dromintee
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg

Thats my predictions for the weekends action


Arn't you forgetting thee game of the weekend there Ben, Cuchulainns v Keady, Sunday 1.30pm @ Killeavy

Must be a Keady romp , them Ulster Champs and all that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 27, 2008, 03:14:08 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 27, 2008, 03:01:47 PM
Quote from: BenDover on August 27, 2008, 01:37:23 PM
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn
Carrickcruppen v Harps
Killeavey v Maghery
Clann Eireann v St Michael's
Granemore v Whitecross
Crossmaglen v Dromintee
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg

Thats my predictions for the weekends action


Arn't you forgetting thee game of the weekend there Ben, Cuchulainns v Keady, Sunday 1.30pm @ Killeavy

Must be a Keady romp , them Ulster Champs and all that.

would be veruy surprised if Keady dont come through this one with something to spare as Cuchulainns are a pretty poor outfit.  They would need Coulter to score all his frees and Keady to be well below par to have any chance, and would prob need Joby to make a few of his now famous boo-boos to give them a goal or 2.

As usual its Keadys championship to lose and the only way this will happen is if they get cocky play shit as they are a good bit better than the rest.  This is not because Keady are a brilliant team (but they are decent) but  because the rest are pretty poor.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 27, 2008, 03:18:43 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on August 27, 2008, 03:14:08 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 27, 2008, 03:01:47 PM
Quote from: BenDover on August 27, 2008, 01:37:23 PM
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn
Carrickcruppen v Harps
Killeavey v Maghery
Clann Eireann v St Michael’s
Granemore v Whitecross
Crossmaglen v Dromintee
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg

Thats my predictions for the weekends action


Arn't you forgetting thee game of the weekend there Ben, Cuchulainns v Keady, Sunday 1.30pm @ Killeavy

Must be a Keady romp , them Ulster Champs and all that.

would be veruy surprised if Keady dont come through this one with something to spare as Cuchulainns are a pretty poor outfit.  They would need Coulter to score all his frees and Keady to be well below par to have any chance, and would prob need Joby to make a few of his now famous boo-boos to give them a goal or 2.

As usual its Keadys championship to lose and the only way this will happen is if they get cocky play shit as they are a good bit better than the rest.  This is not because Keady are a brilliant team (but they are decent) but  because the rest are pretty poor.


Keady are a strong team with quality players, but on what evidence do you place the above assessment, I quote''as Cuchulainns are a pretty poor outfit''
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 27, 2008, 03:22:01 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 27, 2008, 02:17:02 PM
Well i hear Barry John is fit so we should scrape into the quarters. But thats as far as we'll go...


You would know alot about it :P- cross are there for the taking- clans for the Ulster
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 27, 2008, 03:34:54 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 27, 2008, 03:22:01 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 27, 2008, 02:17:02 PM
Well i hear Barry John is fit so we should scrape into the quarters. But thats as far as we'll go...


You would know alot about it :P- cross are there for the taking- clans for the Ulster

the clans wouldn't beat corrinshigo at the minute saan ;) Who would fear the Clans having lost their last 5 league games. It's a good job they got a bye to the next round or they'd be having a bye bye :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 27, 2008, 03:39:01 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 27, 2008, 03:01:47 PM
Quote from: BenDover on August 27, 2008, 01:37:23 PM
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn
Carrickcruppen v Harps
Killeavey v Maghery
Clann Eireann v St Michael's
Granemore v Whitecross
Crossmaglen v Dromintee
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg

Thats my predictions for the weekends action


Arn't you forgetting thee game of the weekend there Ben, Cuchulainns v Keady, Sunday 1.30pm @ Killeavy

Must be a Keady romp , them Ulster Champs and all that.

lol how could i forget that Real, I was just giving my predicitons on the football games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 27, 2008, 03:42:33 PM
Charlie Stubbs you can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. The manager wasn't the only downfall you had last year because you are clearly not going any better this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 27, 2008, 03:51:28 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 27, 2008, 03:18:43 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on August 27, 2008, 03:14:08 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 27, 2008, 03:01:47 PM

would be veruy surprised if Keady dont come through this one with something to spare as Cuchulainns are a pretty poor outfit.  They would need Coulter to score all his frees and Keady to be well below par to have any chance, and would prob need Joby to make a few of his now famous boo-boos to give them a goal or 2.

As usual its Keadys championship to lose and the only way this will happen is if they get cocky play shit as they are a good bit better than the rest.  This is not because Keady are a brilliant team (but they are decent) but  because the rest are pretty poor.


Keady are a strong team with quality players, but on what evidence do you place the above assessment, I quote''as Cuchulainns are a pretty poor outfit''

Have seen them play a few times and My own clubs reserves played their full team last year and won easily.  Nearly all of them can only hit the ball on one side and most of the striking and stickwork is very poor and slow and most have to stop to hit the ball as they cant strike it on the run. To be honest they are nowhere near Keady and their only hope is that Keady are cocky and to pull them down to a beating match as they def wont out hurl them.  In my Honest opinion they are a very poor outfit but Keady are no big shakes either they are just well ahead of the rest of Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 27, 2008, 04:01:06 PM
Did Middletown not win the Hurling championship year before last?  That would suggest Keady are not as great as being suggested.  Also, I was at the Cuchulainns v Keady league game where Cuchulianns threw it away in the last few minutes (not sure of the strength of the teams that evening though).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 27, 2008, 04:47:29 PM
Middletown won it year before last surely when they beat keady (who were missing a couple) of the pitch with some of the most cynical and dirty play I seen in a long time. but in terms of actual hurling ability Keady are good bit better.  In last years county final Keady hammered Middletown and should have won by far more. It was played in Pearse Ogs pitch which is good an wide and allowed Keady to open them up easily.

As regards the league game between Keady and Cuchulainns, Keady had only half a team on with a heap of minors playing as they expected to win and very few county men were even at the game.  Dont get me wrong I would love to see the Cuchulainns beat Keady and go on and win the Armagh title and thats who I will be supporting If they could get a good start, score all their frees, nick a goal, and keady are cocky they could run them close but wont beat them and having seen both teams plenty of times over the past few years and knowing both panels fairly well I cant see it, happening and def not if Keady play to their potential as they are the much better team.


But good luck to Both teams anyway 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Erwin Rommel on August 27, 2008, 09:41:55 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 27, 2008, 03:22:01 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 27, 2008, 02:17:02 PM
Well i hear Barry John is fit so we should scrape into the quarters. But thats as far as we'll go...


You would know alot about it :P- cross are there for the taking- clans for the Ulster

:D

To be fair, you're taking the piss and that is funny - well done!   :)

Clans are an average, average team, whose relative success in recent yeaars has been down to handy championship draws and the excellent contributions oftwo ex county players. Remov either of those factors and they will be badly exposed..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 28, 2008, 09:16:25 AM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on August 27, 2008, 09:41:55 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 27, 2008, 03:22:01 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 27, 2008, 02:17:02 PM
Well i hear Barry John is fit so we should scrape into the quarters. But thats as far as we'll go...


You would know alot about it :P- cross are there for the taking- clans for the Ulster

:D

To be fair, you're taking the piss and that is funny - well done!   :)

Clans are an average, average team, whose relative success in recent yeaars has been down to handy championship draws and the excellent contributions oftwo ex county players. Remov either of those factors and they will be badly exposed..

Well i'm glad you rated us average as i believed we were below average, so we must be a bit better than i gave them credit for...Dunno about you guys but i'm starting to get the old buzz that only the championship can bring and i can't wait for the matches over the next few weeks...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 28, 2008, 11:50:54 AM
Ill Decide - are you togging out this weekend

Must be hitting close to your 20th championship campaign  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 28, 2008, 12:08:30 PM
Hi there lads was wondering if any of yous have a contact number for Cuchulainns Hurling Club (underage) as fella from our club looking it.

If anyone does could you PM me as I dont think posting someones phone number on this board would be appropriate.

Cheers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on August 28, 2008, 12:24:10 PM
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn Mullabawn
Carrickcruppen v Harps - cruppen
Killeavey v Maghery - maghery
Clann Eireann v St Michael's - newtown
Granemore v Whitecross - granemore
Crossmaglen v Dromintee - cross
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg - Pearse Og

Clans are no world beaters but asides from Ogs and Cross out of the likely winners of the first round ties they would fancy their chances..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 28, 2008, 12:36:56 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 28, 2008, 11:50:54 AM
Ill Decide - are you togging out this weekend

Must be hitting close to your 20th championship campaign  ;)

Well saying we've no match i'll not be togging out this weekend ;) :D Jasus i'm not as old as McCaugherty ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 28, 2008, 12:38:18 PM
Quote from: lurgan-gael on August 28, 2008, 12:24:10 PM
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn Mullabawn
Carrickcruppen v Harps - cruppen
Killeavey v Maghery - maghery
Clann Eireann v St Michael's - newtown
Granemore v Whitecross - granemore
Crossmaglen v Dromintee - cross
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg - Pearse Og

Clans are no world beaters but asides from Ogs and Cross out of the likely winners of the first round ties they would fancy their chances..

Welcome to the board Lurgan Gael, i c u lost you're virginity on the board ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on August 28, 2008, 12:59:53 PM
 :-* yip i'm only new to this craic, so go easy on me.  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 28, 2008, 01:01:35 PM
Just realised that


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 28, 2008, 01:19:58 PM
35 illdecide, would that be about right?  You're even more at the wrong end of it than me.  At least I had sense(or to put it correctly somone else had the sense to tell me to quit!)

Interesting to see how the games will pan out this weekend.  Dromintee might just suprise Cross this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 28, 2008, 01:23:22 PM
Cant see Cross losing but for Dromintee this has to be the best time to play them - Inthe first round before they get much momentum built up and any teething problems sorted out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 28, 2008, 01:26:19 PM
I don't think Cross will hammer us but could have an easy enough match. We have been poor this year, thee is no hiding it. We still have some quality players on show and I suppose on their day they are hard to handle.- I can't see it but hopefully I am worng. I would love nothing better than my prediction to be rammed down my throat.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 28, 2008, 01:27:27 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on August 28, 2008, 01:23:22 PM
Cant see Cross losing but for Dromintee this has to be the best time to play them - Inthe first round before they get much momentum built up and any teething problems sorted out.

I really am reaching there arent I. since when did cross ever have teething problems or problems with momentum.

Seriously though i think Dromintee will give them a good game and believe they are probably the best chance of knocking Cross out.  Really dont think Ogs will stand up to Cross in terms of quality and physically.
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Post by: illdecide on August 28, 2008, 02:16:31 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 28, 2008, 01:19:58 PM
35 illdecide, would that be about right?  You're even more at the wrong end of it than me.  At least I had sense(or to put it correctly somone else had the sense to tell me to quit!)

Interesting to see how the games will pan out this weekend.  Dromintee might just suprise Cross this year.

Thats about right BC1 ;). I know i should have quit 3 years ago only for a nagging wife (she drove me to the football)

Cross will win by 3pts (in 3rd gear)
Bawn to win by 2pts
Harps to draw
Killeavey by 2pts
Newtown by 4pts
Granemore by 1pt
Og's by 5pts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 28, 2008, 04:29:49 PM
No County championship previews in either the Ulster Gazette or Armagh Observer - must be a first?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on August 28, 2008, 04:40:16 PM
Quote from: BenDover on August 27, 2008, 01:37:23 PM
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn
Carrickcruppen v Harps
Killeavey v Maghery
Clann Eireann v St Michael's
Granemore v Whitecross
Crossmaglen v Dromintee
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg

Going to give this prediction lark a go for the weekend. Here are my tips for winning.

Mullaghbawn
Cruppen
Maghery
St Micks
Granemore
Cross - no f**k it Im gonna tip Dromintee
Pearse Ogs
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Post by: winsamsoon on August 28, 2008, 06:08:10 PM
Ballymacnab v Mullaghbawn by 4
Carrickcruppen  by 2 v Harps
Killeavey by 4 v Maghery
Clann Eireann v St Michael's by 2
Granemore v Whitecross by 1
Crossmaglen by 3 v Dromintee
Pearse Og v Tir na nÓg Draw
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Post by: crossfire on August 28, 2008, 09:46:25 PM
We will be missing at least 3 players ,all county panellists, on sunday through injury so it will be a struggle.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on August 28, 2008, 10:16:23 PM
I would have fancied Harps to beat Cruppin by 3/4 points but with Collie Holmes unavailable Harps will be up against it bigtime.

I actually have a feeling Dromintee might shock Cross. :o

Ogs to win, but certainly not at a canter 1/2 points

I'm also going for Ballymacnab.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 29, 2008, 09:10:54 AM
Any word on the Clady incident from last weekend?
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Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 29, 2008, 09:28:26 AM
Quote from: full back on August 29, 2008, 09:10:54 AM
Any word on the Clady incident from last weekend?

what incident was that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on August 29, 2008, 09:51:15 AM
QuoteAny word on the Clady incident from last weekend?


what incident was that?

At least one player struck the Ref after they were beat by the Brady's.  Rumour is they may have been kicked out of the league.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 29, 2008, 09:53:53 AM
Clady played Phelim Bradys last weekend (who incidentally got their 1st win since they reformed) & after the match the referee was allegedly struck.
Clady could be in serious hot water over this.
The referee was Jim Lynch.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 29, 2008, 10:24:58 AM
I see there are a few guys that fancy Dromintee ??? why would anyone fancy Dromintee to beat Cross, seriously. Dromintee have never beaten the Cross in the Senior championship, Cross are going for 13 in a row and Dromintee have never won 1. I also get the impression Dromintee are beaten before they go out on the pitch, when they see the black & amber they crack like an egg. (i hope i'm wrong but the facts don't lie)

P.S. before Corn and the rest jump in, this also applys to the majority of the teams in Armagh not just Dromintee...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 29, 2008, 10:52:39 AM

Well there might be a bit more to it than usual this year id - you should know the number of championships the respective clubs have won going into a one off game is irrelevent. its only last year that dromintee were the closest they ever came to beating cross - drawing - and cross are rumoured to be considerably weakened. on top of that dromintee will have back a couple if not more important lads who missed last years games. i'm not predicting a dromintee win by any means but it wil be very very close.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 29, 2008, 11:12:42 AM
I think this is Dromintee's year to finally break the hoodoo and maybe even go the whole way.  The have to be confident as they have the O'Rourkes among others back and Cross have a few problems.  Also the best time to beat a team like Cross is in the early rounds as they may not have built up a head of steam.  I also think there will be a genuine wish among the upper echelons to stop Cross this year as they probably feel that a new winner will bring more through for the county.  I don't necessarily agree with that view point but it is a possible scenario.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 29, 2008, 11:34:59 AM

Ah now bc, your swinging the lead!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 29, 2008, 11:43:03 AM
I am not Uladh.  Why would I be swinging the lead, dromintee have a great chance as no expects anything from them.  Cross coasted to the league while Dromintee struggled against relegation.  I think it is there for a real surprise.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 29, 2008, 11:47:05 AM

I haven't seen either this year but i'd say that dromintee struggled with relegation and cross coasted the league without their county players is probably the biggest indicator of where they're at. that's on top of the turmoil dromintee have been in all year. that said, you never know on the day but i doubt too many cross men would be thinking like you... if indeed you are thinking that way!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 29, 2008, 12:50:48 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 29, 2008, 10:24:58 AM
I see there are a few guys that fancy Dromintee ??? why would anyone fancy Dromintee to beat Cross, seriously. Dromintee have never beaten the Cross in the Senior championship, Cross are going for 13 in a row and Dromintee have never won 1. I also get the impression Dromintee are beaten before they go out on the pitch, when they see the black & amber they crack like an egg. (i hope i'm wrong but the facts don't lie)

P.S. before Corn and the rest jump in, this also applys to the majority of the teams in Armagh not just Dromintee...

I'll not jump in, I would just say that we haven't cracked like an egg, more beaten fairly on the day.

Persoanally this is the first year that I don't think we have a great cahnce, we still have a very good chance but it is hard to know jhow it will pan out. Last year we got the closest (draw) and then  a week later we were beaten quite easily. All I know is we still have a crackiong team and the boys wil lgive it a 100% and you can't ask for more and then who knows what will happen?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 29, 2008, 01:00:05 PM
Quote from: Uladh on August 29, 2008, 11:47:05 AM

I haven't seen either this year but i'd say that dromintee struggled with relegation and cross coasted the league without their county players is probably the biggest indicator of where they're at. that's on top of the turmoil dromintee have been in all year. that said, you never know on the day but i doubt too many cross men would be thinking like you... if indeed you are thinking that way!

All I know Uladh is that championship is a funny thing and if Dromintee can get over their issues with playing Cross then I think they have the capacity to beat them.

On the other hand it could go arseways for them and they could be sent home with their tails between their legs.  Who knows?  I for one think it is far from a foregone conclusion and think there will only be kick of the ball between them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 29, 2008, 01:04:03 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 29, 2008, 01:00:05 PM
Quote from: Uladh on August 29, 2008, 11:47:05 AM

I haven't seen either this year but i'd say that dromintee struggled with relegation and cross coasted the league without their county players is probably the biggest indicator of where they're at. that's on top of the turmoil dromintee have been in all year. that said, you never know on the day but i doubt too many cross men would be thinking like you... if indeed you are thinking that way!

All I know Uladh is that championship is a funny thing and if Dromintee can get over their issues with playing Cross then I think they have the capacity to beat them.

On the other hand it could go arseways for them and they could be sent home with their tails between their legs.  Who knows?  I for one think it is far from a foregone conclusion and think there will only be kick of the ball between them.


Fair enough logic. It is a weird one on the surface and, realistically, Cross should get through but Dromintee can turn it on at times and we' ll have to see. When is Harps and Cruppen, I want to get to that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 29, 2008, 01:17:04 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 29, 2008, 01:04:03 PM

When is Harps and Cruppen, I want to get to that.

Saturday 30 August

Carrickcruppen v Harps (Gary Smith) at Keady (6.00)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 29, 2008, 01:19:05 PM
Cheers El, will head out to that anyway. Pity there were no double headers.
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Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 29, 2008, 01:32:31 PM
Think I might head up to it myself, something to pass the saturday evening
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Post by: Aghdavoyle on August 29, 2008, 01:57:37 PM

Jaysus, i don't know where the creeping suspicions about dromintee beating cross originate?

much as i'd love it, i see nothing to base any optimism on. even since the county men have come back dromintee have been comfortably beaten by killeavy and ogs.
injuries or not, cross will win by 4 or 5 i suspect.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 29, 2008, 02:21:28 PM
Who are Cross likely to be missing then?
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Post by: Aghdavoyle on August 29, 2008, 02:45:13 PM

Allegedly big McKenna and one of the defenders... McKeown?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 29, 2008, 04:00:41 PM
Champoinship's all on the day but it's hard to see Dromintee beating Cross - especially as they are going in on the back of a poor league.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on August 29, 2008, 04:02:13 PM
So if Cross do beat Dromintee as expected, what other clubs are well enough equipped to beat them???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on August 29, 2008, 04:05:49 PM

Anyone any idea what the betting looks like for all of these games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 29, 2008, 04:19:35 PM
2/1 Nab  7/1  Mullaghbawn 1/3

10/11 Cruppen  6/1  Harps 10/11

4/7 Killeavey  7/1  Maghery 5/4

10/11 C Eireann  6/1  Newtown 10/11

8/11 Granemore  6/1  Whitecross 1/1

1/5 Cross  13/2  Dromintee 3/1

1/3 Pearse Ogs  7/1  Tir Na N'og 2/1


Odds from Hughes I think
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 29, 2008, 04:21:27 PM
Wow, despite my pessimisn I wouldn't hve expected us as 3/1.  :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 29, 2008, 05:14:09 PM
You wouldn't go far wrong here to do a lucky 15 with four draws

Harps
Granemore
Newtown
Ogs

If it comes out i will go for the rope.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on August 29, 2008, 09:27:06 PM
Grange beat Derrynoose tonight 1-10 to 1-7, to set-up a tasty Semi-Final clash with neighbours & old rivals Tullysaran. I'm sure this is the one team that the 'Saran didn't want.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 30, 2008, 12:19:14 AM
Its hard to see Dromintee beaten Cross given how often they've failed in the past. Both teams had hugely contrasting seasons with Cross strolling to the League and Dromintee scrapping against relegation. Then you take into account that Cross have far more county players, and arguable players of a better standard to bring in and it seems difficult to make a logical arguement against the Ranger.

f**k it - Dromintee by 4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 30, 2008, 02:01:04 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on August 29, 2008, 02:45:13 PM

Allegedly big McKenna and one of the defenders... McKeown?

Not alledgedly....... Most definitely...... Neither David nor Skinny will play any part, also Stephen Kernan is extremely doubtful.

We'll still give it a good bash though.....No excuses
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 30, 2008, 04:02:50 PM
Quote from: full back on August 29, 2008, 04:19:35 PM
2/1 Nab  7/1  Mullaghbawn 1/3

10/11 Cruppen  6/1  Harps 10/11

4/7 Killeavey  7/1  Maghery 5/4

10/11 C Eireann  6/1  Newtown 10/11

8/11 Granemore  6/1  Whitecross 1/1

1/5 Cross  13/2  Dromintee 3/1

1/3 Pearse Ogs  7/1  Tir Na N'og 2/1

Odds from Hughes I think
Bookies in Armagh have Cruppen 5/4 Harps 4/5 (& & Ogs at 3/10).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 30, 2008, 04:58:52 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 30, 2008, 02:01:04 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on August 29, 2008, 02:45:13 PM

Allegedly big McKenna and one of the defenders... McKeown?

Not alledgedly....... Most definitely...... Neither David nor Skinny will play any part, also Stephen Kernan is extremely doubtful.

We'll still give it a good bash though.....No excuses

I would be expecting yous to give a good bash alright -  8) swear ya were underdogs. Skinny was destroyed against us last year so may not be the worst thing , you have some superb people to come in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 30, 2008, 07:27:17 PM
Harps 3-9 Cruppen 1-8

Just left the Killeavey game there they were 2-11 to 0-7 up with a few minutes to go and some ginger forward from maghery had just got the line for punchin Stansfield in the stones.  bit of handbags after it.
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Post by: armagh leg-end on August 30, 2008, 07:32:44 PM
nab beat. dunno wats the score was!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 30, 2008, 07:36:02 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on August 30, 2008, 07:32:44 PM
nab beat. dunno wats the score was!

I dunno what the exact scoreline was but they were beat by 7 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 30, 2008, 07:50:03 PM
Mullaghbawn 1-11 Nab 0-08

Boys any of u thinkin McCone for county - forget it.......we were very understrength tonight - 6 regs missin so good result
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 30, 2008, 08:18:49 PM
QuoteHarps 3-9 Cruppen 1-8

didn't think there would be that in it.
Were Harps good or Cruppen shite?

Quote
some ginger forward from maghery had just got the line for punchin Stansfield in the stones.
Hard to have sympathy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 30, 2008, 08:29:30 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 30, 2008, 08:18:49 PM
QuoteHarps 3-9 Cruppen 1-8

didn't think there would be that in it.
Were Harps good or Cruppen shite?


I couldn't really say that either were great.  I left after the first half, the match was abysmal, no atmosphere at all.  The score after 15 mins was 1 point to no score.  The score at the end of the first half was 1-2 to 3 points.  At that stage cruppen had missed some easy scores and could easily have been in front.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on August 30, 2008, 08:46:35 PM
Good win for the harps who were understrenght tonight, who were clearly the better side,  goals from sean morrison, joe q and kevin kelly, ref was v poor harps men had to get r**ed to get a free, with some of the harps players singled out for attention. kevin kelly kicked some excellenant frees, great defending by tuts mcconville chucky morris and martin gill, all round decent team performance (in the second half) alot of postives to work on, well done
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on August 30, 2008, 08:54:49 PM
What bookies is that? How can they justify cross at 1/5 and only have dromintee at 3/1? thats not a fair price at all.

Very surprised to see everyone tipping dromintee, I suspect its that type of situation where you have nothing to lose by tipping dromintee, if it happens you look like a genius and if they get beat then nobody notices cos it was expected anyway.

I hope we do it this time! f**k ill be sick the whole way over here in Chicago if we do!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 30, 2008, 09:55:10 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 30, 2008, 04:02:50 PM
Quote from: full back on August 29, 2008, 04:19:35 PM
2/1 Nab  7/1  Mullaghbawn 1/3

10/11 Cruppen  6/1  Harps 10/11

4/7 Killeavey  7/1  Maghery 5/4

10/11 C Eireann  6/1  Newtown 10/11

8/11 Granemore  6/1  Whitecross 1/1

1/5 Cross  13/2  Dromintee 3/1

1/3 Pearse Ogs  7/1  Tir Na N'og 2/1

Odds from Hughes I think
Bookies in Armagh have Cruppen 5/4 Harps 4/5 (& & Ogs at 3/10).

Benny, the probable reason for this is because the bookies is in Armagh & the are more likely to lay the local teams - so they will go a lower price & know the locals will still have a bet


Quote from: doire na raithe on August 30, 2008, 08:54:49 PM
What bookies is that? How can they justify cross at 1/5 and only have dromintee at 3/1? thats not a fair price at all.

Sh1te odds indeed doire, but there is no competition so the boolies can go whatever price they want :-\



Cruppe/Harps game was disappointing tonight. As someone said the atmosphere was poor & the crowd was sparce for a Senior Championship game.
Topgun, the ref was alright for both sides IMHO, he is one of the few refs I have seen that blows up for over-carrying when going into & after the tackle, maybe that is what you are complaining about.
Cruppen looked very timid & didnt put up a fight. Thought Loughran should have been closer to the goals, instead of CHF.
Kane hit a few decent frees for Cruppen in the first half.
Quigley was good up front for the Harps & Kelly hit some super frees.
Harps deserved to win & with Holmes to go into the team, will give a lot of the remaining teams (bar Cross) a run for their money
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on August 30, 2008, 11:08:39 PM
Was in  Keady tonight for the Harps game. as said already poor 1st half but i thought Harps were convincing winners in the end. I was suprised by the scoreline as were many Harps supporters (which were light on the ground tonight- v.poor attendance ) .

I maybe expected alot more from Cruppin. I thought McConnville in defence for Harps was excellent along with Vernon who   was very strong on the ball. Harps won their fair share in the middle. But for first time this year the full forward line worked hard with all returning a goal and a few points apiece.

One criticism I would have was the Harps lack of direct football at times were players were overturned or overcarried the ball when they had several opoortunities to relase the ball to the ff line which had made their runs into space  .

Anyway Well done lads. Hope the  draw for the next round is kind to us. Wouldnt say we will be challenging Cross but it was a good team performance tonight but maybe if a few players become available for the next round and we avoid Cross we MAY have a chance of advancing to the Semis

Na clairsigh Abu     
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 31, 2008, 10:30:04 AM
Poor attendance, poor atmosphere, shit ground but a great result for us.  Cruppen hit their fair share of wides in the first half and any luck going we probably got it so I was confident at half time as we had played against whatever elements there were and had been shooting into the far goals (I would always say the town end goals are better to play into).  We were excellent in the second half with some great attacking football at times.

A great fighting performance from everyone on the field, you really couldn't fault anyone,  but Vernon, Joe Quigley & Mark McConville were outstanding.  Vernon was just awesome at times coming forward with Cruppen men bouncing of him or just plain assaulting him to stop him. 

A kind draw in the next round would be nice and then we'd have Holmes back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on August 31, 2008, 12:54:43 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 31, 2008, 10:30:04 AM
Poor attendance, poor atmosphere, shit ground but a great result for us.  Cruppen hit their fair share of wides in the first half and any luck going we probably got it so I was confident at half time as we had played against whatever elements there were and had been shooting into the far goals (I would always say the town end goals are better to play into).  We were excellent in the second half with some great attacking football at times.

A great fighting performance from everyone on the field, you really couldn't fault anyone,  but Vernon, Joe Quigley & Mark McConville were outstanding.  Vernon was just awesome at times coming forward with Cruppen men bouncing of him or just plain assaulting him to stop him. 

A kind draw in the next round would be nice and then we'd have Holmes back.

What game were you watching?  Can count at least 4 times off the top of my head he was easily dispossessed!  Poor game, poor venue and two poor teams!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2008, 07:28:46 PM
results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on August 31, 2008, 07:40:36 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2008, 07:28:46 PM
results?
Richardson's Sward.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 31, 2008, 07:52:35 PM
cross beat dromintee by 5 points-poor enuf game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on August 31, 2008, 08:02:26 PM

Just got the dromintee result - poor enough performance by all accounts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: down_head on August 31, 2008, 08:19:29 PM
how newtown go?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 31, 2008, 08:22:08 PM
Clan Eireann beat newtown by 2 points and the ogs beat Portadown by a cricket score.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on August 31, 2008, 08:28:01 PM
Cross 1-11 Dromintee 0-9
Pearse Og 3-14 Tir na nOg 0-8

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2008, 08:38:22 PM
more evidence division 2 clubs shouldnt be in the senior championship?  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 31, 2008, 08:55:27 PM
Granemore beat Whitecross by 0-12 to 0-10. Strange enough game. Granemore were well on top throughout the first half and looked in total control, kicking some nice scores in the process - no 15 for them was very impressive. They were 0-11 to 0-4 up int he second half when the Whitecross centre half forward (colm O'Hanlon I think) was sent off for an elbow. This completely transformed the match and Whitecross scored 6 unanswered points to get within a point. At that point they had a great goal chance but the forward blazed wide when it seemed easier to score. This knocked the wind out of Whitrecross' sails a bit and Granemore got another point and did enough to hang on.

The Dromintee Cross game was a bit dissappointing for a tie that promised so much. Thought the atmosphere was a bit subdued. Dromintee were the better side in the first half but Cross went in a point ahead. Miceal O'Rourke missed a great goal chance in the first half. It was a pity Dromintee didn't go into the break with the lead they deserved. Early in the second half Dromintee missed another goal chance and once Cathal Short got the goal for Ranger's the writing was on the wall. Didn't think the goal should have stodd though and it seemed to me that he fell over the line. Arguably it was a penalty but I don't think the goal should have been awarded - it reminded me a bit of the Paddy McKeever "goal" against Dublin in 2002. After the goal Cross just had enough class to keep the scoreboard ticking over and were confortable enough winners in the end.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on August 31, 2008, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2008, 08:38:22 PM
more evidence division 2 clubs shouldnt be in the senior championship?  ???

So there should only be 10 teams in the SFC.  ???

Harps will be in Div 2 next year does that mean they should drop back into the IFC after convincing winners over a potential Div 1 team next year(cruppin).

Tir na nOg are another team that could will be promoted as well.

Ogs are a good side when at full strength and are capable of hammering several Div 1 sides by a big margin.

Hard to know a fair format though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2008, 09:14:40 PM
Yeah I see your point but I just think there's not much point in division 2 teams making up the numbers in the senior championship particularly when division 1 teams are in the intermediate championship  ???

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Arthur on August 31, 2008, 10:22:42 PM
What exactly is the format for the SFC - Top flight and IFC of previous season - no?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on August 31, 2008, 11:02:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2008, 09:14:40 PM
Yeah I see your point but I just think there's not much point in division 2 teams making up the numbers in the senior championship particularly when division 1 teams are in the intermediate championship  ???



A club can win the IFC and be in Div3 as Granemore did a few years back, I think they played SFC that year and were still Div3 which they were entitled to do. No point in demoting/promoting a team based on their league form as it is Championship that counts. Does seem pointless for some clubs but if it wasn't for xmg dominance then it would make a bit more sense!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 01, 2008, 09:00:53 AM
So 13 in a row is still on.  It was good to get over that one as it was always going to be tricky.  Dromintee are never easily beaten.  Is it an open draw now for the next round?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 01, 2008, 09:15:26 AM
Quote from: Whacker on August 31, 2008, 12:54:43 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 31, 2008, 10:30:04 AM
Poor attendance, poor atmosphere, shit ground but a great result for us.  Cruppen hit their fair share of wides in the first half and any luck going we probably got it so I was confident at half time as we had played against whatever elements there were and had been shooting into the far goals (I would always say the town end goals are better to play into).  We were excellent in the second half with some great attacking football at times.

A great fighting performance from everyone on the field, you really couldn't fault anyone,  but Vernon, Joe Quigley & Mark McConville were outstanding.  Vernon was just awesome at times coming forward with Cruppen men bouncing of him or just plain assaulting him to stop him. 

A kind draw in the next round would be nice and then we'd have Holmes back.

What game were you watching?  Can count at least 4 times off the top of my head he was easily dispossessed!  Poor game, poor venue and two poor teams!
You really are talkin out yer hole.  He was dispossessed a couple of times alright - after being assaulted by Cruppen players, doesn't take away from the level of his performance which was excellent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 01, 2008, 09:21:58 AM
lads lets be realistic here! i am a big fan of charlie vernon and i am also a cruppen man!

had i been a neutral at the game on saturday night and i didnt know who the county players had been on the harps team i definitely would not have picked out charlie vernon! yes he is strong when on the ball, he looked good in the last ten minutes when we went chasing the game.

the lad who hit the frees with the left foot had been good has he been with the county at any level?

i suppose we cannot expect to win a championship game when we kicked 14 wides, have 6 shots drop into the keepers hands and give away 2 soft goals this was definitely a game that cruppen lost themselves moreso than the harps team won
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 01, 2008, 09:25:35 AM
Full list of week end results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 01, 2008, 09:27:55 AM
Ended up getting to 4 matches, with Grange v Derrynoose on Friday night in the JFC probably the most entertaining.  Harps had a good win.  Went to Clann Eireann v Newtown and then the Cross game.

Clann Eireann's game was memorable for an almighty row, Clann's had a man sent off after retaliating to a sneaky dig from a Newtown MF'er.  10 mins later Kevin O'Rourke got the line for an awful bit of scumbagery – he clocked a Clann's man and while the man was down and the ref on his way over to send off O'Rourke he drove his boot into the man on the ground!  Unsuprisingly a huge row erupted and was just about over when one of the Clann's mentors went piling into the back of O'Rourke and it went off again.  Clann's held on well to win by 2 points – probably the team that most otherw would fancy their chances against.

AS usual Cross just about did enough but I thought Cross benefited from some shocking soft decisions throughout the game from ref Jim Slevin, the goal itself looked highly dubious.  Dromintee's over reliance on Michael O'Rourke probably cost them, while he was outstanding he didn't have much support.  Dromintee missed two clearcut goal chances which were obviously very costly. Vincey Martin and Shane O'Neill were both excellent for Dromintee as well.  Tony Kernan had a mighty game for Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 01, 2008, 09:29:07 AM
the teams now left in the senior championship

crossmaglen
pearse ogs
killeavey
clann eireann
mullaghbawn
granemore
clan na gael
armagh harps

on yesterdays performance against dromintee, crossmaglen looked sluggish and had there been a decent refereeing performance things might have been different! crossmaglen got a goal when it should have been a free out to dromintee when cathal short charged for about 10 yards and carried the ball over the goal line! cross with gather momentum now from this first round win and go on and win their 13th championship in a row!

i just looked at them yesterday when they arrived at cruppen they are more professional an outfit than many county teams at present and with the players they had injured yet to come back into the team unfortunately for other teams in armagh they will only get better!

fair fcuks to them!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 01, 2008, 09:41:12 AM
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 31st AUGUST 2008

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 17 15 2 0 32
Pearse Og 17 9 4 4 22
St Patrick's 17 9 1 7 19
Culloville 17 8 1 8 17
Killeavey 17 8 1 8 17
Mullaghbawn 18 7 2 9 16
Clan na Gael 17 6 3 8 15
Dromintee 18 7 1 10 15
Harps 17 4 3 10 11
Maghery 17 3 2 12 8

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 20 15 1 4 31
Carrickcruppen 20 13 1 6 27
Tir na nÓg 18 13 0 5 26
St Michael's 20 10 1 9 21
Granemore 19 10 0 9 20
Silverbridge 19 9 1 9 19
Clann Eireann 19 9 1 9 19
Wolfe Tone 18 8 0 10 16
Ballymacnab 19 7 1 10 15
Whitecross 18 7 0 11 14
Keady 15 4 1 10 9
An Port Mor 19 3 1 15 7

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Madden 18 14 3 1 31
St Paul's 19 12 1 6 25
Collegeland 19 12 2 5 26
Ballyhegan 17 11 0 6 22
Belleek 18 9 3 6 21
Annaghmore 19 10 0 9 20
St Peter's 18 7 3 8 17
Tullysaran 17 5 3 9 13
Lissummon 18 5 3 10 13
Clonmore 19 5 3 11 13
Crossmaglen II 17 3 3 11 9
Grange 19 3 2 14 8

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 16 15 1 0 31
Middletown 16 11 3 2 25
Eire Og 17 11 1 5 23
Derrynoose 15 11 0 4 22
Forkhill 16 9 1 6 19
Clady 16 7 2 7 16
O'Hanlon's 15 7 0 8 14
Corrinshego 16 4 2 10 10
Mullaghbrack 17 4 2 11 10
Dorsey Emmett's 16 3 0 13 6
Phelim Brady's 18 1 0 17 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 01, 2008, 09:42:32 AM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 31 AUGUST 2008


Monday 25 August

Minor Football Championship – Preliminary Round
Mullaghbawn defeated Middletown


Friday 29 August

Junior Football Championship – 2nd Round
Derrynoose 1-7; Grange 1-10


Saturday 30 August

Senior Football Championship – 1st Round
Ballymacnab 0-8; Mullaghbawn 1-11
Carrickcruppen 1-8; Harps 3-9
Killeavey 2-13; Maghery 0-14


Sunday 31 August

Senior Football Championship – 1st Round
Clann Eireann 1-10; St Michael's 0-11
Granemore 0-12; Whitecross 0-10
Crossmaglen 1-12; Dromintee 0-10
Pearse Og 3-14; Tir na nÓg 0-8

ACL – Division Two
Silverbridge 1-7; Wolfe Tone 2-10

ACL – Division Three
St Paul's 0-6; Collegeland 1-7
Crossmaglen II v St Peter's (Off)
Grange 0-12; Madden 1-9
Tullysaran 2-13; Annaghmore 0-11
Ballyhegan 3-16; Belleek 2-5
Lissummon 0-9; Clonmore 1-10

ACL – Division Four
Mullaghbrack 1-7; Corrinshego 1-7
Clady v Shane O'Neill's (Off)
Derrynoose 2-17; Phelim Brady's 0-3
Dorsey Emmett's v O'Hanlon's (Off)
Eire Og 0-5; Middletown 1-11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 01, 2008, 10:01:32 AM
Cheers Hank!

QuoteSt Paul's 0-6; Collegeland 1-7

They should have a wedding every week end!  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 01, 2008, 11:30:03 AM
Pearse Ogs 3-14 tof Na Nog 0-8
Convincing defeat. Tir Na Nog were Poor. BrianM allon Came on in the second half but he was struggling with an injury and it would have been hard to make an impact
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 01, 2008, 11:34:53 AM
Pearse Og's are the team to beat now in the Senior C'ship ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaa.boy on September 01, 2008, 11:38:16 AM
When is the draw made for the next round of the sfc?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 01, 2008, 11:46:15 AM
Just thought I would mention the prices into Senior C'ship games at the weekend.
Although I dont think Im that much of a miserable b4stard, I still thought £7 was a bit steep, but then we did get the free programme :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 01, 2008, 11:53:07 AM
the draw is to be made on tuesday night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 01, 2008, 12:07:17 PM
On site today El Cuervo?  :P

V.convincing win yesterday though the opposition weren't up too much tbh, still a good all round performance from the Ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 01, 2008, 12:27:59 PM
The draw is tomorrow afternoon...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 01, 2008, 05:12:47 PM
PREDICTIONS

Clans v  Harps
Mullaghbawn v Cross
Killeavy v Pearse Ogs
Clann eireann v Granemore


Get them in lads Draw is tommorrow.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 01, 2008, 05:30:17 PM
Ill go for:

Clans v Harps
Cross v Granemore
Clan Eireann v Killeavy
Pearse Ogs v Mullaghbawn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 01, 2008, 05:32:17 PM
illdecide ;)

I want

Clans v Cross
Harps v Ogs
Clann Eireann v Granemore
Mullaghbawn v Killeavey
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 01, 2008, 05:37:18 PM
what a guy!!! both deciders in a feud
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 01, 2008, 05:59:14 PM
Quote from: BenDover on September 01, 2008, 12:07:17 PM
On site today El Cuervo?  :P

V.convincing win yesterday though the opposition weren't up too much tbh, still a good all round performance from the Ogs

No Ben, booked the day off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 02, 2008, 08:38:58 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 7 SEPTEMBER 2008


Saturday 6 September

Intermediate Football Championship (5.30)
Keady v Silverbridge (Eamon Nugent) at Keady
Ballyhegan v Sarsfields (Vincent O'Neill) at Davitt Park

Minor Football Championship (4.00)
St Peter's v Clady (Joe Murtagh)
St Brigid's v Clan na Gael (Paul Rath)
St John's v Shane O'Neill's (Noel Martin)
Tir na nÓg v Pearse Og (Barney Henry)
Granemore v Culloville (Jim Burns)
St Paul's v St Patrick's (Stephen Murray)
Derrynoose v Clann Eireann (Stephen McKinley)
Dromintee v Ballymacnab (Paul Boylan)
Crossmaglen v Grange (Damian McConville)
Maghery v Wolfe Tones (Gary Smith)
1st named teams have Home advantage


Sunday 7 September

Under-21 Football Championship Final Replay (6.00)
Carrickcruppen v Madden (Malachy McNicholl) at Abbey Park

Minor Football Championship (2.00)
Corrinshego v Ballyhegan (Kevin Gallogly)
Killeavey v Silverbridge (Jim Slevin)
Harps v Sarsfields (Paudie Hughes)
Keady v Eire Og (Oliver Hearty)
1st named teams have Home advantage

ACL – Division Three (2.00)
Crossmaglen II v St Peter's (Vincent O'Neill)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 02, 2008, 08:40:50 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on September 02, 2008, 08:38:58 AM

Saturday 6 September

Intermediate Football Championship (5.30)
Keady v Silverbridge (Eamon Nugent) at Keady


This game cant be in Keady - can it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 02, 2008, 08:53:12 AM
full back i would imagine that is an administration error

newtown would be a logical venue for this game as it would be directly in the middle of both clubs although they could take it to ballymacnab
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 02, 2008, 11:22:33 AM
Irish News has it in the 'Nab
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 02, 2008, 11:34:30 AM
Anybody know what time the draw is at today?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 02, 2008, 11:42:44 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 02, 2008, 11:34:30 AM
Anybody know what time the draw is at today?

K Brady told me afternoon but no exact time. He said he would text me as soon as he gets it...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on September 02, 2008, 11:50:11 AM
ll go for:

Cross v Killeavy
Clan Eireann v Clans
Pearse Ogs v Harps
Granemore v Mullaghbawn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 02, 2008, 12:06:00 PM
i heard that the draw wasnt being made until the county board meeting tomorrow night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 02, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
No - defintely today, we recieved an email from co board stating as much.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 02, 2008, 01:01:03 PM
Had to miss the Cross match the other night. I hear we missed a few goal chances which killed us. Also heard that Cross goal was free-out but probably would have not made too much difference in the long run. Fair play to Cross. Would like to see the Harps win it but I feel Ogs may tbe the only team with a chance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 02, 2008, 02:01:34 PM
Heard the draw is done, but the only fixture I heard for definte is that Cross got Clan na Gael!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 02, 2008, 02:03:39 PM
Yeah that's a true one benny we have the Cross hallions in the next round  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 02, 2008, 02:09:45 PM
Heard anything else??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 02, 2008, 02:10:16 PM
Ogs v Granemore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 02, 2008, 02:14:29 PM
Harps v Mullabawn

Pearse og v Granemore

Clann Eireann v Killeavy

Cross v Clans



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 02, 2008, 02:48:24 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 02, 2008, 02:14:29 PM
Harps v Mullabawn

Pearse og v Granemore

Clann Eireann v Killeavy

Cross v Clans





Delighted to get Cross :-* This is the time to get them (i think)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on September 02, 2008, 02:51:31 PM
Predictions:

Harps by 2
Og's by 8+
Killeavy by 4+
Clans by 9+  :o Only kidding- Cross by 5+
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 02, 2008, 02:58:20 PM
4 pretty clear cut games IMHO
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 02, 2008, 03:01:49 PM
I wouldnt bet on that FB - I honestly think there will be a few surprising results this round. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 02, 2008, 03:03:26 PM
Therefore my predictions:

Clans v Cross - draw
Ogs v Granemore - Ogs by 7-8
Mullaghbawn v Harps - Bawn by 2
Killeavy v Clan Eireann - Clanns by 1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 02, 2008, 03:06:34 PM
can we expect round 2 of mccaugherty Vs murtagh from the killeavy 7s  :D

Predictions:

Clans v Cross - Clans by 1
Ogs v Granemore - Ogs by 3
Mullabawn v Harps - draw
Killeavy v C.Eireann - Killeavy by 5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 02, 2008, 03:08:29 PM
Clans v Cross - cross by 5
Ogs v Granemore - Ogs by 3
Mullaghbawn v Harps - draw
Killeavy v Clan Eireann - Killeavy by 4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Na Clairsigh on September 02, 2008, 03:10:14 PM
when are these quarter final games set to be played? this weekend??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 02, 2008, 03:13:17 PM
13th/14th weekend
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 02, 2008, 03:24:00 PM
full back i can't for the likes of me fathom how you think they are 4 clear cut games. You could be excused for thinking the og's match would be, but the other 3 are potentially sticky wickets. The favourites would be Cross, Killeavy and to be honest i couldn't call the harps game. That would be my opinion of it anyway. I am sure there would be a few guys that would agree.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 02, 2008, 03:52:02 PM
Harps v Mullabawn            Harps by 2 ;)

Pearse og v Granemore     Ogs by 5+

Clann Eireann v Killeavy      Killeavy by 3

Cross v Clans                    Cross by 5+

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 02, 2008, 04:07:17 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 02, 2008, 03:24:00 PM
full back i can't for the likes of me fathom how you think they are 4 clear cut games. You could be excused for thinking the og's match would be, but the other 3 are potentially sticky wickets. The favourites would be Cross, Killeavy and to be honest i couldn't call the harps game. That would be my opinion of it anyway. I am sure there would be a few guys that would agree.

I would be one that would agree, and even at that the Ogs game will certainly not be one way traffic, Granemore are a good wee side when they get going,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on September 02, 2008, 04:10:45 PM
boys is there any semi final pairings yet or wil it be another draw?

no disrespect to g-more and clan E but i fancy ogs and killeavy to get thru easily...cross/clansand us/harps should be two good games.Mark Quinn wil be home for that one-he is home for his bro weddin so that wil be a bonus to us
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 02, 2008, 04:11:37 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 02, 2008, 03:24:00 PM
full back i can't for the likes of me fathom how you think they are 4 clear cut games. You could be excused for thinking the og's match would be, but the other 3 are potentially sticky wickets. The favourites would be Cross, Killeavy and to be honest i couldn't call the harps game. That would be my opinion of it anyway. I am sure there would be a few guys that would agree.

Ah FFS winsam, you have said some daft things on this board, but if you cant fathom how or why I think Cross will beat Clans then I give up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 02, 2008, 04:17:37 PM
In fairness FB thats only one of four games - you said all four are clear cut and winsam was merely stating that they arent. Which in my opinion is correct.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 02, 2008, 04:22:33 PM
Harps
Killeavey
Cross
Pearse Ogs

Crystal clear.................
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 02, 2008, 04:28:37 PM
Quote from: full back on September 02, 2008, 04:22:33 PM
Harps
Killeavey
Cross
Pearse Ogs

Crystal clear.................

Relax full back.

Ask yourself: Are Harps really going to beat Mullabawn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 02, 2008, 04:29:31 PM
Yup...  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on September 02, 2008, 04:36:14 PM
confidence from the harps boys, i like it  ;D havin heard it in a while
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 02, 2008, 04:39:51 PM
Quote from: lurgan-gael on September 02, 2008, 04:28:37 PM
Quote from: full back on September 02, 2008, 04:22:33 PM
Harps
Killeavey
Cross
Pearse Ogs

Crystal clear.................

Relax full back.

Ask yourself: Are Harps really going to beat Mullabawn

Yeah,
Holmes will be a brave miss, but they will be too strong overall
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 02, 2008, 04:41:27 PM
Full back when you say that things are clear cut you mean that they will be easy wins. I am saying that bar the Og's match IMO the other games will be difficult to call. I would fancy Cross simply because of their record but it certainly will not be easy game, If you think he Clans will come out and lie down then you know a different clans team that i do. Harps and Mullaghbawn to me is a toss of a coin and Killeavy versus Clann Eireann will be a tight enough game aswell. If you think this is way off the mark then i don't know what games you watch during the year. As you can see there has already been a few posters that have agreed with me so we can't all be seing things.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 02, 2008, 04:48:06 PM
No one said you are going to lie down, dont be so paranoid.

When you last met in a county final Cross were the superior team. Allowing for the sending off, they would still have won.IMHO Clans have gone back from them while Cross have stayed the same or improved.

Pearse Og's beat Tir na Nog comprehensively who are sitting close to the top of the league Granemore are in.

Killeavey will be too strong for Clann Eireann. C Eireann have no one who can mark Mc Donnell & indeed Killeavey have hit form at the right time in the season.

Harps are a physically bigger team than Mullaghbawn all over the field. Mullaghbawn are rarely beaten by big scores as they are a good defensive unit, but I feel that any fouls will be punished by Kelly, whose free taking was top notch against Cruppen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 02, 2008, 04:54:43 PM
There is a little difference this time full back. The clans will be goin into the game with absolutely nothing to loose a IMHO Cross were also a better team the year they beat us in the final. So i will conceed that we have gone backwards but you would also have to conceed that Cross are by no means the team they were. Mc Conville and a the Kernans have had a quite year with the county and certainly haven't doen anything outstanding. Plus there is also the added advantage of a neutral venue which is a big deal.

Would it be reasonable to say then that you would fancy Og's, Harps, Cross and killeavy all by 4 or 5 clear points???. Surely you would if they are clear cut.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 02, 2008, 04:55:59 PM
IMHO Harps have gone backwards, (Division 2), whereas Mullabawn have stayed the same or improved (remained in Div 1). Thats why I feel they will beat Harps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on September 02, 2008, 05:00:53 PM
Harps v Mullabawn            Bawn by 2/3

Pearse og v Granemore      Granemore by 1

Clann Eireann v Killeavy        Killeavey by 3+

Cross v Clans                      Clans by 2  (think it will be tight as Clans have nothing to lose and will get stuck in)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 02, 2008, 05:22:35 PM
Harps v Mullaghbawn will be tight,  both teams will fancy their chances - I'd say the bookies will have it even money.

Granemore will give the Ogs all they want but you'd have to think that the Ogs should have a wee bit too much for them.

I think Killeavey will account for Clann Eireann by at least 5 or 6, Watched CE on Sunday and they're not great but Shane Mcconville has them well drilled, they lost one of their MF'ers to a straight red the last day so he'll undoubtedly be a big loss.  Killeavey are on a great run, hard to see them being stopped at this stage.

Cant see anything other than a Cross victory against the Clans, although Cross aren't great around MF and they did look dodgy in defence the last day when under pressure.  First game in the refurbished Athletic Grounds??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on September 02, 2008, 06:26:19 PM
harps ogs semi final would be some game!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Arthur on September 02, 2008, 06:32:43 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on September 02, 2008, 06:26:19 PM
harps ogs semi final would be some game!

Final would be better.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 02, 2008, 07:19:41 PM
When was the last time Clan na Gael beat Crossmaglen at a neutral venue?
Cross by five this time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 02, 2008, 08:45:43 PM
What exactly does that have to do with this year championship game between the two teams exile??? Whaever has happened in the past goes out the window.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 02, 2008, 09:48:58 PM
Can't see Clans getting within five of Cross - although Mardsen is still a classa act.

Harps posters: case for calling for a postponement with Holmes on county duty?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 02, 2008, 10:13:08 PM
Well if we are to equal Ballina's record of 13 in a row, it looks as if we are going to have to do it the hard way.
After drawing Dromintee in the first round we were hoping to avoid Clans and Ogs in the quarter finals as we are usually a bit sluggish in the early rounds .
However we have drawn the Clans who have a great championship record and will be a tough nut to crack.

They should have beaten us in the league in Davitt Park when we were almost at full strength and we stole the points with a late goal.
Hopefully we will have some of our injured players back for this game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 02, 2008, 11:17:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on September 02, 2008, 09:48:58 PM
Can't see Clans getting within five of Cross - although Mardsen is still a classa act.

Harps posters: case for calling for a postponement with Holmes on county duty?

no chance , i think that was tried a few years ago when there was a clash and the county board laughed at us.


A double header in the Athletic Grounds would be great

Harps V Bawn
Cross V Clans

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 02, 2008, 11:46:34 PM
was at county convention a few years back when a motion was passed regarding armagh county players and club matches not sure which one it was now the killeavey chairman tried to get it to cover all counties to cover killeavey when stanfield wasn't available and he was laughed at!

i would certainly imagine that any request from harps would be the same!

anyword yet on venues??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 02, 2008, 11:50:30 PM
if they choose crossmaglen v clans as the first game in the refurbished athletic grounds the county should market the product and have it under the new lights too!

if done correctly they could fill the place and generate alot of interest and revenue in the athletic grounds

couldnt imagine them having the sense of the know how to do this unfortunately
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 03, 2008, 12:49:46 AM
I assume the athletic grounds will be used, saw pictures of them and the place is looking well. Would imagine Clann Eireann/Killeavy & Clans/Cross would make a better double header, Lurgan vs S.Armagh!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 03, 2008, 12:51:57 AM
QuoteLurgan vs S.Armagh!

Not a very equal contest, in Gaelic Football anyway.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 03, 2008, 07:49:05 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 03, 2008, 12:51:57 AM
QuoteLurgan vs S.Armagh!

Not a very equal contest, in Gaelic Football anyway.  ;)

Bo Swigging?  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on September 03, 2008, 08:11:05 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on September 02, 2008, 11:50:30 PM
if they choose crossmaglen v clans as the first game in the refurbished athletic grounds the county should market the product and have it under the new lights too!

if done correctly they could fill the place and generate alot of interest and revenue in the athletic grounds

couldnt imagine them having the sense of the know how to do this unfortunately

That would be too ethical for them to do that and too much forward thinking involved!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 03, 2008, 08:29:51 AM
Having reconsidered my opinion & following some sound advice from winsam I dont feel the 4 games will be clear cut   ;)

The Harps/Mullaghbawn may be tight enough
The rest of the games the favourites will win by at least 3 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 03, 2008, 08:32:47 AM
There's bound to be one shock!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 03, 2008, 08:35:13 AM
It went pretty much to form in the last round
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 03, 2008, 08:36:39 AM
A few pictures of the Athletic Grounds - swiped from the orchardcounty website

(http://www.orchardcounty.com/images/athletic_grounds/1.JPG)

(http://www.orchardcounty.com/images/athletic_grounds/2.JPG)

(http://www.orchardcounty.com/images/athletic_grounds/3.JPG)

(http://www.orchardcounty.com/images/athletic_grounds/4.JPG)

(http://www.orchardcounty.com/images/athletic_grounds/5.JPG)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on September 03, 2008, 08:51:28 AM
Actually, Surprisingly it looks half decent!  Thats maybe until them wee fcukers in the estates get their paws on it!

Quite impressive from the pictures anyway.

One other note, attended couple of the Championship games over the weekend and the Admission Fee is Ridiculous!  10 Euro in to watch tripe in Keady, one match!  Went to games in Down also and it was 10 Euro in but you were paying to watch a double header!  I wouldnt mind if some- if not themajority of the money was going to clubs, but they sniff fcuk all of it and the County Board get their grubby little paws on it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 03, 2008, 09:10:50 AM
Apparently the Athletic Grounds pitch itself isn't ready for a game yet, so I'd say Cross v Clans will be at Cruppen (abbey park a  possibility but mightn't hold the crowd).  No doubt they'll take us back to that shithole Keady, Ogs v Granemore would be the 'Nab I'd assume and Abbey Park or Pearse Og Park will get CE v Killeavey.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 03, 2008, 10:28:43 AM
I would say the clans game Benny would definetly be in Abbey park. The only other option would be ballymacnab but this may not be big enough. Both of these pitches are quite small and will make for an interesting match. I would say there would be a lot of hard hitting and this is why the game should be a lot tighter. A small pitch always brings the game to another level. We would be fairly used to playing in Davitt park and as you know it is massive. The Cross pitch is no small thing either so i think both teams would have prefered a bigger pitch (the Clans probably more so than Cross) For this reason i think the game will be pretty tight.

I am glad you have seen sense Full back  ;) The butterflies are in the old stomach now lads as the championship heats up. Just hope that rain stays away so we can get it played.

The Harp game should also be tight. We have two division one teams going at it and in many ways the teams are similar. The both like to work the ball out of defence and get quick ball into the forwards. This will be a tight affair and i think whoever performs best in and around the middle should take the game. The guy for Harps Kelly is pretty accurate with the frees but so too is John Ferris for the Bawn so all in all it will be a good game to watch.


The Og's should account for Granemore handily enough. The last time i saw Granemore they were a big strong young side but the wouldn't have been the most mobile team in the world. I think the Og's can exploit this weakness and with their running game can account for Granemore easily enough. They also have the option of the high ball if needed.

Killeavy will also be in for a tough ride. Granted they are playing well and Clan Eireann are no big shakes but they can prove difficult to beat. They have a decent enough midfield and a couple of decent forwards. If they can deal with the physical side of Killeavy and Keep Mc Donnell quiet then they could potentially upset the apple cart.

Verdict

Clans v Cross  (wouldn't want to call it because of my bias) ;)
Harps v Mullaghbawn  ( Bawn by 1 point)
Killeavy v Clann Eireann ( Killeavy by 2)
Og v Granemore ( Og's by 6 )
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 03, 2008, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 03, 2008, 09:10:50 AM
Apparently the Athletic Grounds pitch itself isn't ready for a game yet, so I'd say Cross v Clans will be at Cruppen (abbey park a  possibility but mightn't hold the crowd).  No doubt they'll take us back to that shithole Keady, Ogs v Granemore would be the 'Nab I'd assume and Abbey Park or Pearse Og Park will get CE v Killeavey.

Why would the pitch not be ready? it was laid about 4 years ago and it looks perfect in the photos (i wish Davitt Park looked as good as that). Correct me if I'm wrong but is the Junior championship semi's not on in the Athletic Grounds this weekend. And the county board were looking for our game with Cross for the Friday night under the lights but it didn't suit both teams so as far as I'm aware it will be there on the Sunday (not sure if it's part of a double header)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on September 03, 2008, 10:56:28 AM

It was a disppointing weekend of football overall. wasn't at the ogs game but it sounds like they were very impressive with jj clarke adding quite a bit of scoring power. cruppen in particular disappointed but harps did their job very profesionally. the cross game was a funny oul game - a very eerie atmosphere with little or no fire to it. the cross goal effectively ended the game at a very imprtant time and it was never a goal from my viewpoint. cross look very vulnerable with tony mcentee, hanratty and donaldson manning central positions and looking very poor. could be a big chance for clans!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 03, 2008, 11:10:22 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 03, 2008, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 03, 2008, 09:10:50 AM
Apparently the Athletic Grounds pitch itself isn't ready for a game yet, so I'd say Cross v Clans will be at Cruppen (abbey park a  possibility but mightn't hold the crowd).  No doubt they'll take us back to that shithole Keady, Ogs v Granemore would be the 'Nab I'd assume and Abbey Park or Pearse Og Park will get CE v Killeavey.

Why would the pitch not be ready? it was laid about 4 years ago and it looks perfect in the photos (i wish Davitt Park looked as good as that). Correct me if I'm wrong but is the Junior championship semi's not on in the Athletic Grounds this weekend. And the county board were looking for our game with Cross for the Friday night under the lights but it didn't suit both teams so as far as I'm aware it will be there on the Sunday (not sure if it's part of a double header)
The Junior semi's are the weekend of 27th/28th September.  Could be wrong but as I say I heard the pitch isn't ready just yet, so dont be suprised if you hear it's Cruppen for the Clans game!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 03, 2008, 12:35:44 PM
Quote from: The GAA on September 03, 2008, 10:56:28 AM

It was a disppointing weekend of football overall. wasn't at the ogs game but it sounds like they were very impressive with jj clarke adding quite a bit of scoring power. cruppen in particular disappointed but harps did their job very profesionally. the cross game was a funny oul game - a very eerie atmosphere with little or no fire to it. the cross goal effectively ended the game at a very imprtant time and it was never a goal from my viewpoint. cross look very vulnerable with tony mcentee, hanratty and donaldson manning central positions and looking very poor. could be a big chance for clans!

JJ wasn't playing, Ross Clarke scored 1-3 I think though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 03, 2008, 12:54:39 PM
Did Clady receive a 72 week ban for the incident with the referee?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 03, 2008, 12:59:41 PM
Grounds coming along nicely, although the orange seats will be a bit bright for some. There a few pics there with about 20 seats amongst the terracing, anyone know the story?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 03, 2008, 01:01:32 PM
disabled/elderly??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on September 03, 2008, 01:03:05 PM
Or possible the subsitutes area?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 03, 2008, 01:34:18 PM
Certainly not the subs but could be disabled/elderly alright.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 03, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
Quote from: full back on September 03, 2008, 12:54:39 PM
Did Clady receive a 72 week ban for the incident with the referee?

Yip thats them finished for the rest of this season and the whole of next season, the whole club is apparantely banned, underage and all,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Arthur on September 03, 2008, 03:24:54 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 03, 2008, 03:10:53 PM
Quote from: full back on September 03, 2008, 12:54:39 PM
Did Clady receive a 72 week ban for the incident with the referee?

Yip thats them finished for the rest of this season and the whole of next season, the whole club is apparantely banned, underage and all,

The underage thing is very very harsh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 03, 2008, 03:31:26 PM
I know, but thats what i heard, basically the gates of the club will be closed for 72 weeks, so it could sound the end of the club all together
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 03, 2008, 03:33:18 PM
personally i think the underage thing is very harsh indeed because there are a lot of kids that will be punished and the whole club in general will be in danger of folding simply because these kids will not sit around and wait two years for football. They will simply move onto other clubs with only the die hards hanging on.

The lads that are responsible for the whole incident should be totally ashamed of themselves and they should be the ones working their nuts off at lower levels to ensure the club comes through it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 03, 2008, 03:37:20 PM
What happened exacly. AS Win says, why should children be punished because of something they had nothing to do with.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 03, 2008, 04:09:39 PM
Boys, I dont know if the Clady thing is true.  I have actually read the CCC's minutes where it was dealth with and as far as I can see there have been 48 wk bans issued to a few individuals, and a lesser ban to another individual.  Unless a higher power than the CCC has stepped in?????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 03, 2008, 04:33:46 PM
would they really ban a whole club, underage teams included?

what happened ballymacnab when they were in ulster, where they not involved in a bit of fisty cuffs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 03, 2008, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 03, 2008, 04:09:39 PM
Boys, I dont know if the Clady thing is true.  I have actually read the CCC's minutes where it was dealth with and as far as I can see there have been 48 wk bans issued to a few individuals, and a lesser ban to another individual.  Unless a higher power than the CCC has stepped in?????

Im not 100% but i heard from Clady lads and this is what they were telling me, They said 72 weeks, and i asked about the rest of the club and they were of the opinion that the whole club would be punished,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MrTaylor on September 03, 2008, 05:10:12 PM
Quote from: lurgan-gael on September 03, 2008, 01:01:32 PM
disabled/elderly??

Neither thank god.  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 03, 2008, 05:19:21 PM
Quote from: lurgan-gael on September 03, 2008, 04:33:46 PM
would they really ban a whole club, underage teams included?

what happened ballymacnab when they were in ulster, where they not involved in a bit of fisty cuffs?

The nab had a run in with the Stewartstown players in casement, the players involved got their own individual bans ranging from 4 weeks, to 6 months,

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on September 03, 2008, 05:54:00 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 03, 2008, 05:19:21 PM
Quote from: lurgan-gael on September 03, 2008, 04:33:46 PM
would they really ban a whole club, underage teams included?

what happened ballymacnab when they were in ulster, where they not involved in a bit of fisty cuffs?

The nab had a run in with the Stewartstown players in casement, the players involved got their own individual bans ranging from 4 weeks, to 6 months,



All the shorter bans (4 Weeks) didnt matter as no games were played in this period and all the longer bans were eventually overturned as they hired a lawer and appealed to every possible person they could, think they were even at the UN with Koffi Annan, and eventually got off on a technicality. Think the ref wasnt supposed to be doing that game because he was on the dole so his £10 match fee would have been against the law. Something like that anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 04, 2008, 09:17:39 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 03, 2008, 11:10:22 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 03, 2008, 10:51:10 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 03, 2008, 09:10:50 AM
Apparently the Athletic Grounds pitch itself isn't ready for a game yet, so I'd say Cross v Clans will be at Cruppen (abbey park a  possibility but mightn't hold the crowd).  No doubt they'll take us back to that shithole Keady, Ogs v Granemore would be the 'Nab I'd assume and Abbey Park or Pearse Og Park will get CE v Killeavey.

Why would the pitch not be ready? it was laid about 4 years ago and it looks perfect in the photos (i wish Davitt Park looked as good as that). Correct me if I'm wrong but is the Junior championship semi's not on in the Athletic Grounds this weekend. And the county board were looking for our game with Cross for the Friday night under the lights but it didn't suit both teams so as far as I'm aware it will be there on the Sunday (not sure if it's part of a double header)
The Junior semi's are the weekend of 27th/28th September.  Could be wrong but as I say I heard the pitch isn't ready just yet, so dont be suprised if you hear it's Cruppen for the Clans game!

Good man Benny...Our game v Cross is in Carrickcruppen at 5:30 next Sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 04, 2008, 09:30:20 AM
has the rest of the dates & venues been decided
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 04, 2008, 09:31:46 AM
Harps V Mullabawn   2.00pm @ Cullyhana         Sun 14th

Ogs V Granemore    6.00pm @ Ballymacnab     Sat 13th

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 04, 2008, 10:00:29 AM
Quote from: MrTaylor on September 03, 2008, 05:10:12 PM
Quote from: lurgan-gael on September 03, 2008, 01:01:32 PM
disabled/elderly??

Neither thank god.  :D

What then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on September 04, 2008, 10:02:06 AM
Quote from: corn02 on September 04, 2008, 10:00:29 AM
Quote from: MrTaylor on September 03, 2008, 05:10:12 PM
Quote from: lurgan-gael on September 03, 2008, 01:01:32 PM
disabled/elderly??

Neither thank god.  :D

What then?

Retarded perhaps?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 04, 2008, 11:08:32 AM

Ogs V Granemore    5.30 @ Ballymacnab     Sat 13th

Clann Eireann v Killeavey @ Abbey Park 5.30pm Sat 13th

Harps V Mullabawn   2.00pm @ Cullyhana         Sun 14th

Cross v Clans @ 5.30pm in Cruppen Sun 14th
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 04, 2008, 11:12:07 AM
Should have been 2 double headers!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 04, 2008, 11:27:05 AM
f**k off Goats - don't be so forward thinking and correct. I honestly can't see how the advantage of staging these in four different grounds.

Take me, the unhappy Dromintee man out of the Championship. Harps match and a Cross match in a double header would have me staright out the door. Now I am not sure if I will go to either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on September 04, 2008, 11:30:12 AM
Do the words Armagh County Board mean nothing to you??

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: I SHOT JR on September 04, 2008, 12:24:09 PM
In comparison to their opponents, Harps have to travel further to the game.  If this game is to be in South Armagh, surely Silverbridge would've been a better choice given the facilities at their pitch.  I was at a game there recently and the pitch was in some nick, even the goalmouths were fully covered with grass.  Maybe Cullyhanna's pitch has been redeveloped, i'm not sure?  Seems a strange choice to me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 04, 2008, 01:35:49 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 04, 2008, 11:08:32 AM

Ogs V Granemore    5.30 @ Ballymacnab     Sat 13th

Clann Eireann v Killeavey @ Abbey Park 5.30pm Sat 13th

Harps V Mullabawn   2.00pm @ Cullyhana         Sun 14th

Cross v Clans @ 5.30pm in Cruppen Sun 14th


WTF.....

dont think harps have ever played a c-ship game there, so we cant say we have been unlucky on it,  but i do know that we rarely pick up points at this ground in the league.... :(

Surely a double header in Cruppin would have been the best for both players & supporters.

venue aside, We'll just have to get on with it..All we need now is Hearty as Ref...dont be :o :o :o :o when its announced...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 04, 2008, 01:55:20 PM
Suprising location alright for the Harps game, especially as you have to drive past a better pitch in Newtown to get to it ???  I'd be more worried that I've heard the pitch has been in very poor condition in recent weeks?  Tac, Que pasa?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 04, 2008, 01:59:44 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 04, 2008, 01:55:20 PM
Suprising location alright for the Harps game, especially as you have to drive past a better pitch in Newtown to get to it ??? 

I may be wrong but I thought there had to be turnstyles at the ground where a Senior C'ship game is held
Does the Nab have turnstyles?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 04, 2008, 02:06:35 PM
no, Abbey Park has no turnstlies and it hosts at leasts 2 SFC games every year.. Only for county games i think
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 04, 2008, 02:07:52 PM
The rule about turnstiles only applies to County Finals
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 04, 2008, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 04, 2008, 02:07:52 PM
The rule about turnstiles only applies to County Finals

Hey BC1 i hear they are flying you home for the clans match ;) ( it would need to be a B52 bomber for you) if Mr Short is still playing away then there's hope for you yet :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on September 04, 2008, 02:19:47 PM
To b honest i would never have thought cullyhanna for the game...thought maybe keady or nab....2b fair though c-hanna have done  lot of work on the facilities lately thou...so maybe its in reward for that......personally i think sun games should hav been double header too
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 04, 2008, 02:23:52 PM
Quote
Quote from: illdecide on September 04, 2008, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 04, 2008, 02:07:52 PM
The rule about turnstiles only applies to County Finals

Hey BC1 i hear they are flying you home for the clans match ;) ( it would need to be a B52 bomber for you) if Mr Short is still playing away then there's hope for you yet :D :D

Fat or not I'd still give it to your lugs (again!)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 04, 2008, 02:33:33 PM
would have thought that Clann Eireann were in for a shout for hosting a championship match??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 04, 2008, 03:29:55 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 04, 2008, 02:23:52 PM
Quote
Quote from: illdecide on September 04, 2008, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 04, 2008, 02:07:52 PM
The rule about turnstiles only applies to County Finals

Hey BC1 i hear they are flying you home for the clans match ;) ( it would need to be a B52 bomber for you) if Mr Short is still playing away then there's hope for you yet :D :D

Fat or not I'd still give it to your lugs (again!)

There you go bullying again ::). If i recall rightly the last time we crossed swords i finished it with a Jazzer to you're scone :D :D :D Fecking head never recovered from hitting that block of yours :D

I take it you fancy the Cross strongly (and why wouldn't ya) What is wrong with S Kernan that he is struggling for fitness??? And McKenna is out what about slim??? will he be fit
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 04, 2008, 03:34:51 PM
David and Skinny are out.  Stephen I don't know.  I actually think given the history between the 2 teams the Clans are the main threat to Cross now that Dromintee are out.  It will have to end sometime and this could be it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 04, 2008, 03:56:19 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 04, 2008, 03:34:51 PM
David and Skinny are out.  Stephen I don't know.  I actually think given the history between the 2 teams the Clans are the main threat to Cross now that Dromintee are out.  It will have to end sometime and this could be it.

You said that last week ::) I think we have a real chance TBH but no-one outside of the club (in fact most of our own supporters think we'll be beat) gives us a chance so we have nothing to loose. In fact to beat the Cross and go back into our club and tell those c**nts to f**k off who prob would be the first to run over to pat you're back. Can't wait for the game and the old championsip buzz is def in the belly (and there is plenty of room for it)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 04, 2008, 04:01:52 PM
I know I said that last week but that was about Dromintee.  Now that they are gone I would say that you are the main threat.  Tradition is a big factor in championship.  If the ball goes your way then there is every possibility that you will win, but there will have to be many variables in place.  The ref will be very important.  The fact that it is in Cruppen is a factor as Cross have played there fairly regularly over recent years.  Player availability on both sides and how they are deployed.  Finally, how much do Cross want it?  I think if they have enough desire no one will match them.  If they can avoid complacency they will win simple as that as pound for pound they are the best team in the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 04, 2008, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 04, 2008, 04:01:52 PM
I know I said that last week but that was about Dromintee.  Now that they are gone I would say that you are the main threat.  Tradition is a big factor in championship.  If the ball goes your way then there is every possibility that you will win, but there will have to be many variables in place.  The ref will be very important.  The fact that it is in Cruppen is a factor as Cross have played there fairly regularly over recent years.  Player availability on both sides and how they are deployed.  Finally, how much do Cross want it?  I think if they have enough desire no one will match them.  If they can avoid complacency they will win simple as that as pound for pound they are the best team in the county.

You mean the Country
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 04, 2008, 04:15:53 PM
Quote from: lurgan-gael on September 04, 2008, 02:33:33 PM
would have thought that Clann Eireann were in for a shout for hosting a championship match??

Wise up will ye
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 04, 2008, 04:17:02 PM
If there is one team Cross do NOT want to be eliminated by, it is Clan na Gael. Thats why I feel Clans have it all to do. You could have it in Davitt Park and have a Clans man ref it and it'd still be a mountain to climb. Thats not to say I don't think Clans are capable, but it will take a mammoth effort. Fixing the match for Cruppen is slightly advantgeous for Cross so hopefully a good crowd travel down from Lurgan as this game will generate plenty of interest in S.Armagh, no doubt in my mind who they'll all be cheering on  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 04, 2008, 04:18:07 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 04, 2008, 04:15:53 PM
Quote from: lurgan-gael on September 04, 2008, 02:33:33 PM
would have thought that Clann Eireann were in for a shout for hosting a championship match??

Wise up will ye

have a heart,considering they won't be winning anything of note in the foreseeable future!?!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 04, 2008, 04:20:35 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on September 04, 2008, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 04, 2008, 04:01:52 PM
I know I said that last week but that was about Dromintee.  Now that they are gone I would say that you are the main threat.  Tradition is a big factor in championship.  If the ball goes your way then there is every possibility that you will win, but there will have to be many variables in place.  The ref will be very important.  The fact that it is in Cruppen is a factor as Cross have played there fairly regularly over recent years.  Player availability on both sides and how they are deployed.  Finally, how much do Cross want it?  I think if they have enough desire no one will match them.  If they can avoid complacency they will win simple as that as pound for pound they are the best team in the county.

You mean the Country

County is fine for the meantime ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 04, 2008, 04:23:30 PM
Ok then, we should write a petition to have the County Final played in clan eirenns ground
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 04, 2008, 04:29:17 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 04, 2008, 04:23:30 PM
Ok then, we should write a petition to have the County Final played in clan eirenns ground

ok, "RELAX"

I'm talking prelim. rd/ 1/4s
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 04, 2008, 05:24:50 PM
Clann Eireann would be ideal if it was 2 Lurgan teams playing in the championship but i cannot see that happening any time soon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sean og on September 04, 2008, 08:17:27 PM
you have to realise that players and officials have to
walk through the crowd so this could rule out newtown
and clann eireann possibley
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 05, 2008, 11:24:23 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 04, 2008, 03:34:51 PM
David and Skinny are out.  Stephen I don't know.  I actually think given the history between the 2 teams the Clans are the main threat to Cross now that Dromintee are out.  It will have to end sometime and this could be it.

I was impressed with skinny McKeown and if he's out he will be a big loss but McKenna in the middle of the field can be replaced easy with Tony or John Mac or the midfield pairing against Dromintee (can't remember who it was).

I seen the Og's last week and i was impressed with them, every time they went forward they looked like scoring so i would say they have a very good chance along the way. However, how good are Porty (i know they beat us last year before you all jump in), it was hard to judge was the Ogs really good or was Porty pure manure (maybe a bit of both).

Does anyone know who the Clann Eireann lad was that was sent off against Newtown???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 05, 2008, 11:41:32 AM
It was the Number 9, dont know his name.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 05, 2008, 12:27:21 PM
It was Mickey Shanks - hel be a big miss to them for their next match. I was also at the Ogs game and I agree the Ogs looked sharp but id put alot more emphasis on how bad Portadown were. They couldnt hold onto the ball and had no penetration or scoring threat. The Ogs will be hard to beat of course but id forget about their last game, and their next one too in all liklihood.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on September 05, 2008, 01:22:27 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 05, 2008, 11:24:23 AM
I was impressed with skinny McKeown and if he's out he will be a big loss but McKenna in the middle of the field can be replaced easy with Tony or John Mac or the midfield pairing against Dromintee (can't remember who it was).

one area i would disagree with this sentiment about cross is at midfield. dromintee have cleaned cross out at midield 2 years in a row now and that is very uncross like. hanratty looked a few levels below senior championship last weekend and tony mcentee was not in the game at all. If McKenna gets back he can bolster the area but they may have to bring john mcentee in there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 05, 2008, 01:59:59 PM
Cross have been very ordinary in the MF sector for a few years now, but ultimately, it still hasn't really hurt them (I doubt you could put the St Vincents game down to MF obliteration?).  As I've said on a few ocassions if the Ogs had a good MF they could beat them as they a pretty strong everywhere else.  Clans MF should be every bit as good as Cross's but I doubt that it will make a big pile of difference.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 05, 2008, 02:08:32 PM
Benny one shall see. If the clans can secure enough possession around the middle and penetrate the cross then they will take the cross to the wire. The problem they had in the county final a few years back was that they had a good bit of possession but no penetration. Any team that can cut through the Cross and not get bogged down in the hard hitting slog of a game are in with a fighting chance. The Cross are capable of absorbing pressure and then hitting teams in a 20 min blizt. St Vincents is a good example. Cross tried to sit back and absorb the pressure but it back fired because St Vincent' were able to cut through them and get the scores on the board.

I would like to see the Clans going four or five points up to see how the Cross would react to that. They haven't really been in the scenario very often in Armagh football. But all in all in makes for either and really close game or a five or six point win like the county final 06.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on September 05, 2008, 02:28:26 PM
2007    Crossmaglen Rangers 0-12    Pearse Óg 0-6
2006    Crossmaglen Rangers 1-14    Clan na nGael 0-8
2005    Crossmaglen Rangers 0-12    Dromintee / Droim an Tí 0-9
2004    Crossmaglen Rangers 1-9    An Mullach Bán 0-6
2003    Crossmaglen Rangers 0-13    Dromintee / Droim an Tí 0-11
2002    Crossmaglen Rangers 2-10    Dromintee / Droim an Tí 1-8
2001    Crossmaglen Rangers 2-8    Dromintee / Droim an Tí 1-7
2000    Crossmaglen Rangers 0-14    Pearse Óg 1-6
1999    Crossmaglen Rangers 1-11    Pearse Óg 0-6
1998    Crossmaglen Rangers 2-16    Madden 0-9
1997    Crossmaglen Rangers 0-7    An Mullach Bán 0-6
1996    Crossmaglen Rangers 3-12    Clan na nGael 1-4
1995    Mullabawn 0-11    Armagh Harps 1-5
1994    Clan na nGael 2-5    An Mullach Bán 0-6
1993    Clan na nGael 2-15    Maghery Sean McDermotts 1-6
1992    Pearse Og 0-13    Sarsfields 0-3
1991    Armagh Harps 0-11    Maghery Sean McDermotts 1-7
1990    Sarsfields 0-9    Armagh Harps 0-6


Just gazing through all the senior finals from the start of the nineties there, and i was just thinking that there are very few players currently playing club football in Armagh who have senior championship medals outside of Cross....

From Mullaghbawn point of view the only player on our squad is Rory mcDonnell, and Rory broke his leg this year so that unfortunately is prob end of Rory..

So who have we???? ???, Bumpy and Marsdens from clans....any others lads?? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 05, 2008, 02:34:57 PM
Interesting, since they have went on the run only one side, Mullaghbawn, have got within a point of Cross and only one team, Dromintee, have got withing two.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 05, 2008, 02:38:17 PM
Are any of the other O'Hagan's still playing? McGaugherty? Was Oldham on the panel that won?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 05, 2008, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on September 05, 2008, 02:28:26 PM
2007    Crossmaglen Rangers 0-12    Pearse Óg 0-6
2006    Crossmaglen Rangers 1-14    Clan na nGael 0-8
2005    Crossmaglen Rangers 0-12    Dromintee / Droim an Tí 0-9
2004    Crossmaglen Rangers 1-9    An Mullach Bán 0-6
2003    Crossmaglen Rangers 0-13    Dromintee / Droim an Tí 0-11
2002    Crossmaglen Rangers 2-10    Dromintee / Droim an Tí 1-8
2001    Crossmaglen Rangers 2-8    Dromintee / Droim an Tí 1-7
2000    Crossmaglen Rangers 0-14    Pearse Óg 1-6
1999    Crossmaglen Rangers 1-11    Pearse Óg 0-6
1998    Crossmaglen Rangers 2-16    Madden 0-9
1997    Crossmaglen Rangers 0-7    An Mullach Bán 0-6
1996    Crossmaglen Rangers 3-12    Clan na nGael 1-4
1995    Mullabawn 0-11    Armagh Harps 1-5
1994    Clan na nGael 2-5    An Mullach Bán 0-6
1993    Clan na nGael 2-15    Maghery Sean McDermotts 1-6
1992    Pearse Og 0-13    Sarsfields 0-3
1991    Armagh Harps 0-11    Maghery Sean McDermotts 1-7
1990    Sarsfields 0-9    Armagh Harps 0-6


Just gazing through all the senior finals from the start of the nineties there, and i was just thinking that there are very few players currently playing club football in Armagh who have senior championship medals outside of Cross....
From Mullaghbawn point of view the only player on our squad is Rory mcDonnell, and Rory broke his leg this year so that unfortunately is prob end of Rory..

So who have we???? ???, Bumpy and Marsdens from clans....any others lads?? ???

Harpo McKenna for the Harps..... sure he's nearly 40 and been playing for years!!!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 05, 2008, 02:43:32 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 05, 2008, 02:38:17 PM
Are any of the other O'Hagan's still playing? McGaugherty? Was Oldham on the panel that won?

Paul O Hagan was a sub and Gareth McCaugherty def has the 2 medals. P Oldham might well have been a sub that last day (not sure)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on September 05, 2008, 03:07:28 PM

Is oldham still playing?

Miceal o'se dominated midfield against cross for vincents. a bit like tyrone though, cross' midfield inferiority doesn't seem to phase them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 05, 2008, 03:26:22 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 05, 2008, 02:08:32 PM
Benny one shall see. If the clans can secure enough possession around the middle and penetrate the cross then they will take the cross to the wire. The problem they had in the county final a few years back was that they had a good bit of possession but no penetration. Any team that can cut through the Cross and not get bogged down in the hard hitting slog of a game are in with a fighting chance. The Cross are capable of absorbing pressure and then hitting teams in a 20 min blizt. St Vincents is a good example. Cross tried to sit back and absorb the pressure but it back fired because St Vincent' were able to cut through them and get the scores on the board.

I would like to see the Clans going four or five points up to see how the Cross would react to that. They haven't really been in the scenario very often in Armagh football. But all in all in makes for either and really close game or a five or six point win like the county final 06.
I will be at the game hoping that Clans win - not for any love of the Clans or dislike of Cross - it's just time for a change!  I remember being very disappointed with the Clans in the '06 final, you talk about a lack of penetration that game but I saw a team that looked like they didn't want to know.  The Ogs were the same last year - not doing themselves justice, off course Cross being excellent doesn't help.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 05, 2008, 03:48:22 PM
Mc Caugherty actually has 3 medals one from 1987! And Benny I dont agree with you that the Clans didnt want to know in the 06 final, I was dissapointed as well the way the game panned out but I the early sending off of Bumpy, although the correct decision, had more of an effect on that game than people care to acknowledge. I also dont think that the Ogs 'didnt want to know' - I believe theyre problem was that they were more concerned with not letting themselves be bossed about by Cross that they forgot about the football at times.
Title: Re: Madden GFC Presents Charity Match for Newry Hospice
Post by: armagh leg-end on September 05, 2008, 04:05:29 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on August 26, 2008, 11:08:09 PM
Madden GFC Present this charity match in aid of Newry Hospice.

A number of current and former county stars will be representing each club along with some legends of Madden GFC.

This match is part of the celebrations for the 75th Anniversary of the club.

All Support Appreciated!

(http://file046b.bebo.com/16/large/2008/08/26/21/188623226a8742439929l.jpg)

Bit of a reminder about the game. admission is free and a good game of football is promised!
Title: Re: Madden GFC Presents Charity Match for Newry Hospice
Post by: harlechman on September 05, 2008, 10:23:25 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on September 05, 2008, 04:05:29 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on August 26, 2008, 11:08:09 PM
Madden GFC Present this charity match in aid of Newry Hospice.

A number of current and former county stars will be representing each club along with some legends of Madden GFC.

This match is part of the celebrations for the 75th Anniversary of the club.

All Support Appreciated!

(http://file046b.bebo.com/16/large/2008/08/26/21/188623226a8742439929l.jpg)

Bit of a reminder about the game. admission is free and a good game of football is promised!

I wonder is Stephen O'Neill still planning on taking part?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on September 06, 2008, 07:28:29 PM
Sarsfields advance to the next round of the Intermediate Championship after defeating Ballyhegan tonight by 2 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 06, 2008, 08:55:30 PM
Quote from: MOJO on September 06, 2008, 07:28:29 PM
Sarsfields advance to the next round of the Intermediate Championship after defeating Ballyhegan tonight by 2 points.
'bridge and keady drew.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 06, 2008, 09:00:03 PM
 :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 07, 2008, 03:47:52 PM
Someone posted this in a thread I have on betfair about club betting:

   
Quotearmagh betting cross1/3 pearse ogs 9/2 harps7/1 clan na gael12/1

Dunno where they got it from though... Fella I work with says Hhughes bookies in Portadown were offering odds on the matches last weekend, will tyr to see if they have any this weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 07, 2008, 08:07:22 PM
Carrickcruppen won the Armagh Under-21 Final replay this evening when they beat Madden by five points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 08, 2008, 08:17:33 AM
Quote from: MOJO on September 06, 2008, 07:28:29 PM
Sarsfields advance to the next round of the Intermediate Championship after defeating Ballyhegan tonight by 2 points.


Ballyhegan controlled the game until the last kick of the first half, when one of the Sarsfields midfield ran past & through 3 Ballyhegan challengers & hit a rasper from 20 yards under Johnny McKeever in the Davitt's nets to put the sides level at half time.

The loss of Stephen Tiffney in the Davitt's midfield also proved crucial in the second half, as Ballyhegan totally lost their midfield dominance of the first half!

Best for Ballyhegan was again Paul Courtney & Mark Hughes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 08, 2008, 09:09:21 AM
Any minor results or the draw for the next round? 

Harps beat Sarsfields 2-14 to 3-4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 08, 2008, 09:11:15 AM
Dromintee well beaten by Ballymacnab.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 08, 2008, 09:16:52 AM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on September 07, 2008, 08:07:22 PM
Carrickcruppen won the Armagh Under-21 Final replay this evening when they beat Madden by five points.

Great 2nd half by Cruppen but Madden will be wondering where it all went wrong, 5 points up at half time after dominating for much of the first half.  Ferris was excellent, he'll be well fit for starting for the County Seniors sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 08, 2008, 09:18:09 AM
Cullyhanna beat St Pauls by 2
St Brid's beat clans by 1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 08, 2008, 09:30:46 AM
Granemore bt Cullaville 
Silverbridge bt Killeavey
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 08, 2008, 10:12:34 AM
cruppen retained the under21 championship last night in a thrilling game in abbey park.

they completely bossed the first 15 minutes and then decided to stop for some reason allowing madden to take control and go into the interval with a 5 point lead with a few dubious scores their first point was at least 3ft wide and the umpire gave it as a score the linesman actually called the referee over to tell him how wide it was! then madden got a goal when it should have been a free to cruppen for a sliding tackle

things hadnt been looking too good at half time and some of the players got told a few home truths about their performance in the first half and their reponse was immense. cruppen made a few switches on the pitch and it paid dividends as the out-played, out-classed and out-muscled madden in every area of the pitch the scoreline for the second half was cruppen 2-6 and they restricted madden to 0-2 (2 free kicks)

im sure madden are well sick after playing so well in the first day - cruppen always knew that they couldnt play as bad again although it did look like it in the second quarter of the game last night

well done lads!

cruppen minors play the winners of madden v mullaghbawn in the second round of the championship

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on September 08, 2008, 10:18:07 AM
Any got the Sarsfields team that played at the weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 08, 2008, 10:19:27 AM
Quote from: youbetterbelieveit on September 08, 2008, 10:18:07 AM
Any got the Sarsfields team that played at the weekend?
Have the programme at home, I'll post it up tomorrow.

I might be able to remmber certain names though, if you have specific queries?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: youbetterbelieveit on September 08, 2008, 10:22:52 AM
Was wondering how a former club mate of my is performing, he wouldnt be a native of the parish!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 08, 2008, 10:54:51 AM
Quote from: youbetterbelieveit on September 08, 2008, 10:22:52 AM
Was wondering how a former club mate of my is performing, he wouldnt be a native of the parish!

What's his name?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 08, 2008, 10:58:54 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on September 08, 2008, 10:12:34 AM
cruppen retained the under21 championship last night in a thrilling game in abbey park.

they completely bossed the first 15 minutes and then decided to stop for some reason allowing madden to take control and go into the interval with a 5 point lead with a few dubious scores their first point was at least 3ft wide and the umpire gave it as a score the linesman actually called the referee over to tell him how wide it was! then madden got a goal when it should have been a free to cruppen for a sliding tackle

things hadnt been looking too good at half time and some of the players got told a few home truths about their performance in the first half and their reponse was immense. cruppen made a few switches on the pitch and it paid dividends as the out-played, out-classed and out-muscled madden in every area of the pitch the scoreline for the second half was cruppen 2-6 and they restricted madden to 0-2 (2 free kicks)

im sure madden are well sick after playing so well in the first day - cruppen always knew that they couldnt play as bad again although it did look like it in the second quarter of the game last night

well done lads!

cruppen minors play the winners of madden v mullaghbawn in the second round of the championship
Your goal came from a dodgy sliding tackle as well. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 08, 2008, 11:17:21 AM
benny i seem to recall from this time last year that you labelled cruppen under21's a poor side that won a poor under21 championship having beaten no one!

does the fact that the team have now retained their under21 title make them any better having beaten clann eireann, keady, tir na nog and crossmaglen enroute to the final and beating a madden team who accounted for dromintee who beat granemore to get to the final make them any different?

i think it is a great achievment for this bunch of lads! from the team that won in 2007 4 of the starting team had been overage for this years team, and again only 4 of this years team is overage for the 2009 under21 championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 08, 2008, 11:23:58 AM
Well done to Cruppen, some decent players for the future on that team.

BTW, was told last week that ye are going for 3 in a row, this is before ye won the second :o

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 08, 2008, 11:24:14 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on September 08, 2008, 11:17:21 AM
benny i seem to recall from this time last year that you labelled cruppen under21's a poor side that won a poor under21 championship having beaten no one!

Correct.  Great achievement this year thou.  Bodes well for the future, if you haven't a team of stoves.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 08, 2008, 11:28:06 AM
a few of the lads are going travelling to australia so that could be a possible disaster short term! for the long term though they are still young and on return to ireland after their travels they will still have plenty of time ahead of them to continue their football
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 08, 2008, 11:30:19 AM
I know its been asked before and possibly discussed on other threads.....
Any betting for the weekends Championship games???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 08, 2008, 11:32:02 AM
Rory Robinson is the ref for the Cross v Clans game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 08, 2008, 01:58:56 PM
I would be happy enough with that ref i'll decide at least the game "should" now only be decided on football  without the influence of bias or hatred.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 08, 2008, 02:04:42 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 08, 2008, 01:58:56 PM
I would be happy enough with that ref i'll decide at least the game "should" now only be decided on football  without the influence of bias or hatred.

Correct saan ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 08, 2008, 03:46:04 PM
I can assure you that there are NO referees biased towards Cross.

We find Rory Robinsion to be very fair though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 08, 2008, 04:01:44 PM
True. There are some that would appear to be biased against Clans though! :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 08, 2008, 04:03:53 PM
I have to say that in all my time playing with Cross I loved it when I saw rory's name as ref.  Even handed but also let it flow.  Sent me off once but I'll not hold it against him, you can never slap enough Pearse Ogs men in my opinion
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 08, 2008, 04:13:45 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 08, 2008, 04:03:53 PM
I have to say that in all my time playing with Cross I loved it when I saw rory's name as ref.  Even handed but also let it flow.  Sent me off once but I'll not hold it against him, you can never slap enough Pearse Ogs men in my opinion

:D :D :D :D Funny i was only ever sent off once in my life and yes you guessed it "Pearse Ogs"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 08, 2008, 04:15:18 PM
Quote from: lurgan-gael on September 08, 2008, 04:01:44 PM
True. There are some that would appear to be biased against Clans though! :o

Whatever you say man but i've never had a problem with Mr Robinson. Cross like him and so do we. Everyone's happy :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on September 08, 2008, 05:13:46 PM
Quote from: corn02 on September 08, 2008, 09:11:15 AM
Dromintee well beaten by Ballymacnab.

3.13 - 0.12
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 08, 2008, 06:16:56 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 08, 2008, 03:46:04 PM
I can assure you that there are NO referees biased towards Cross.

We find Rory Robinsion to be very fair though.

Ollie Hearty? ;)

Wish Seamus Reavey was still reffing - use to give us everything.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 08, 2008, 06:17:32 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 08, 2008, 04:03:53 PM
I have to say that in all my time playing with Cross I loved it when I saw rory's name as ref.  Even handed but also let it flow.  Sent me off once but I'll not hold it against him, you can never slap enough Pearse Ogs men in my opinion


Id have to agree there - ive enjoyed slapping a few Ogs men in my time!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 08, 2008, 07:14:49 PM

You obviously got a few too many back
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 08, 2008, 07:44:49 PM
Or not enough!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 09, 2008, 09:15:28 AM
The outright betting for this years Senior Football C'ship courtesy of Bar-One Racing;
4/11 Crossmaglen,
9/2 Perase Ogs,
7/1 Harps,
9/1 Mullaghbawn,
12/1 Clan Na Gael,
12/1 Killeavey,
20/1 Clann Eireann,
20/1 Granemore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 09, 2008, 10:19:45 AM
Harps got the Ogs in the minor championship.  Sat 20th at 4pm in Pog Park.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 09, 2008, 10:32:58 AM
Harps Vs Mullaghbawn
Cullyhana
2pm
Ref: S O'Neill
Linesmen: B Henry & D McConville

Who is this ref?
Without being cheeky is he vertically challenged???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 09, 2008, 11:13:05 AM
Quote from: Candyman on September 09, 2008, 10:32:58 AM
Harps Vs Mullaghbawn
Cullyhana
2pm
Ref: S O'Neill
Linesmen: B Henry & D McConville

Who is this ref?
Without being cheeky is he vertically challenged???


I think he is Seamus O Neil from Eire Og, not a bad guy and tends to be very fair.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 09, 2008, 11:15:11 AM
Am i thinking of Stephen O'Neill then, wee small guy???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 09, 2008, 11:21:27 AM
Quote from: Candyman on September 09, 2008, 11:15:11 AM
Am i thinking of Stephen O'Neill then, wee small guy???

I think you are thinking of V O Neil from Cullyhanna we stocky guy. (the guy must have had an accident in his youth to one of his eyes) Not a bad guy...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 09, 2008, 11:24:56 AM
Quote from: Candyman on September 09, 2008, 11:15:11 AM
Am i thinking of Stephen O'Neill then, wee small guy???

No, He plays for Tyrone, wrong man all together
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 09, 2008, 11:26:55 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 09, 2008, 11:21:27 AM
Quote from: Candyman on September 09, 2008, 11:15:11 AM
Am i thinking of Stephen O'Neill then, wee small guy???

I think you are thinking of V O Neil from Cullyhanna we stocky guy. (the guy must have had an accident in his youth to one of his eyes) Not a bad guy...
No sure how could i forget that c*nt.... He robbed a point from us at Culloville then got Joe Quigley 12weeks for feck all the squinty eyed wee fcuk!!!!  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 09, 2008, 11:37:29 AM
candyman i think you are thinking of stephen murray from wolfe tones he is only about 5ft tall
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 09, 2008, 11:38:26 AM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on September 09, 2008, 11:37:29 AM
candyman i think you are thinking of stephen murray from wolfe tones he is only about 5ft tall

That is the very man DS....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 09, 2008, 12:45:38 PM
That's the one (bubbles) that got decked by one of the St Peter's lads a couple of years back . He gave him a good doing after one of the games in the car park. He was in the sunday world and all for it with the face swelled up. I have seen worse refs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 09, 2008, 12:51:04 PM
Aye but pity he's not the ref for our game!!!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on September 09, 2008, 02:27:28 PM
Anyone here anything else about the Clady situation,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 09, 2008, 02:50:33 PM
The 78 week ban is true enough, but it only applies to the senior team (and will no doubt be appealed), 4 individuals bans of 48 weeks issued as well.

I hear Granemore's management team was went walkies?  Not too good a week before the Championship Q/F's!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 09, 2008, 02:56:59 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 09, 2008, 12:45:38 PM
That's the one (bubbles) that got decked by one of the St Peter's lads a couple of years back . He gave him a good doing after one of the games in the car park. He was in the sunday world and all for it with the face swelled up. I have seen worse refs.

trust me he deserved it, did himself no favours running to the papers either
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 09, 2008, 03:07:10 PM
Quote from: lurgan-gael on September 09, 2008, 02:56:59 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 09, 2008, 12:45:38 PM
That's the one (bubbles) that got decked by one of the St Peter's lads a couple of years back . He gave him a good doing after one of the games in the car park. He was in the sunday world and all for it with the face swelled up. I have seen worse refs.

trust me he deserved it, did himself no favours running to the papers either

Oh so the ref deserved a beating :o :o what did he do to deserve that? Oh i know he gave a decision against St Peters, How dare he ::) Jasus the refs really get up you're nose at times but you cannot lift you're hand to them...I would like to see Mr Creaney (the guy who hit the ref) take his anger out on say Gary Smith (another ref) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 09, 2008, 03:08:19 PM
Quote from: lurgan-gael on September 09, 2008, 02:56:59 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 09, 2008, 12:45:38 PM
That's the one (bubbles) that got decked by one of the St Peter's lads a couple of years back . He gave him a good doing after one of the games in the car park. He was in the sunday world and all for it with the face swelled up. I have seen worse refs.

trust me he deserved it, did himself no favours running to the papers either

Catch a f**king grip of yourself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 09, 2008, 03:15:44 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 09, 2008, 02:50:33 PM
The 78 week ban is true enough, but it only applies to the senior team (and will no doubt be appealed), 4 individuals bans of 48 weeks issued as well.

I hear Granemore's management team was went walkies?  Not too good a week before the Championship Q/F's!

Yeh, i heard that myself, apparantely 13 lads went on a stag and the manager was none too pleased and walked,

Benny O Kane is now looking after them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 09, 2008, 03:28:29 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 09, 2008, 03:07:10 PM
Quote from: lurgan-gael on September 09, 2008, 02:56:59 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 09, 2008, 12:45:38 PM
That's the one (bubbles) that got decked by one of the St Peter's lads a couple of years back . He gave him a good doing after one of the games in the car park. He was in the sunday world and all for it with the face swelled up. I have seen worse refs.

trust me he deserved it, did himself no favours running to the papers either

Oh so the ref deserved a beating :o :o what did he do to deserve that? Oh i know he gave a decision against St Peters, How dare he ::) Jasus the refs really get up you're nose at times but you cannot lift you're hand to them...I would like to see Mr Creaney (the guy who hit the ref) take his anger out on say Gary Smith (another ref) ;) ;)


i have no love for the peters (opposite in fact) but if someone made derogatory remarks about my wife i'd put them through the fence. it was nothing to do with the minor match in question
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 09, 2008, 03:29:24 PM
Was Terry McCarron (SP?) the head man at Granemore???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 09, 2008, 03:29:50 PM
It would be a good thing Full back if you would tell us you you are refering to when you post things like this

Catch a f**king grip of yourself
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I am not sure if you are getiing at me or lurgan gael lad.???
But just to clarify my position. I totally agree that no player should lift and hand towards a ref and certainly no supporters should either. What happened bubbles  (the ref )was wrong and as i'll decide says it would probably done because he was an easy target ie 5ft 2 inches
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 09, 2008, 03:32:26 PM
Oh and the stag weekend before a senior championship game, clearly signals the intent of the Granemore players. Lump on the og's if you can get them -5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 09, 2008, 03:33:16 PM
Sorry for not clarifying my position ::)

I am referring to the post immediately above my post
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 09, 2008, 03:36:32 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 09, 2008, 03:29:24 PM
Was Terry McCarron (SP?) the head man at Granemore???

Sorry candyman, i couldnt tell ye,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 09, 2008, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: full back on September 09, 2008, 03:33:16 PM
Sorry for not clarifying my position ::)

I am referring to the post immediately above my post

Referring to me then..

I don't condone attacking officials because of the result of a match or poor decision making but if a ref personally insults your wife it becomes a personal matter. If someone in the street insulted your wife what would you do? Some would walk away, others would challenge it. P Creaney ended up facing an assault charge aswell as a ban from the GAA. It would be fair to say that not everything in the sunday world is the truth
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 09, 2008, 03:56:37 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 09, 2008, 03:36:32 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 09, 2008, 03:29:24 PM
Was Terry McCarron (SP?) the head man at Granemore???

Sorry candyman, i couldnt tell ye,
Yeah, Terry McCarron (harps) & Christy Furphy (portadown) were taking them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on September 09, 2008, 04:43:27 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 09, 2008, 03:56:37 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 09, 2008, 03:36:32 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 09, 2008, 03:29:24 PM
Was Terry McCarron (SP?) the head man at Granemore???

Sorry candyman, i couldnt tell ye,
Yeah, Terry McCarron (harps) & Christy Furphy (portadown) were taking them.

mccarrons a fermanghan man, think he played county!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on September 09, 2008, 04:50:32 PM
QuoteOh and the stag weekend before a senior championship game, clearly signals the intent of the Granemore players. Lump on the og's if you can get them -5

Think the Stag do referred too was a month or two ago.  The final straw came last week when the Granemore PRO gave some very harsh critisim after the Whitecross match (whcih they won!!)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on September 09, 2008, 04:53:50 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 09, 2008, 02:50:33 PM
The 78 week ban is true enough, but it only applies to the senior team (and will no doubt be appealed), 4 individuals bans of 48 weeks issued as well.

I hear Granemore's management team was went walkies?  Not too good a week before the Championship Q/F's!

Who were the 4 individuals alledgedly?

On another separate point is Philly loughran still playing for them I know there was alot of discussion on here about him transferring to Dromintee a while back but I know that didnt happen?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 09, 2008, 04:54:04 PM
Quote from: lurgan-gael on September 09, 2008, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: full back on September 09, 2008, 03:33:16 PM
Sorry for not clarifying my position ::)

I am referring to the post immediately above my post

Referring to me then..

I don't condone attacking officials because of the result of a match or poor decision making but if a ref personally insults your wife it becomes a personal matter. If someone in the street insulted your wife what would you do? Some would walk away, others would challenge it. P Creaney ended up facing an assault charge aswell as a ban from the GAA. It would be fair to say that not everything in the sunday world is the truth

Well he should have called round to his door some night and sorted it out then when away from the GAA pitch. Many players wind up other players on the field of play like "i rid you're sister last night" or smell you're Ma" to try and get the player to hit him resulting in a sending off, you just don't take the bait saan. you then wait you're chance to take the middle out of him and when he's on the ground grasping for air you remind him that infact it was you who rid his sister last night (Roy Keane style)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 09, 2008, 05:17:30 PM
I bet you have never been told 'I rid your sister last night' ill decide - well at least not if the player in question actually seen your sister!  ;D As for you Lurgan Gael, noone would have to insult your wife - her face is insulting enough to the poor woman!! :D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 09, 2008, 05:41:02 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 09, 2008, 05:17:30 PM
I bet you have never been told 'I rid your sister last night' ill decide - well at least not if the player in question actually seen your sister!  ;D As for you Lurgan Gael, noone would have to insult your wife - her face is insulting enough to the poor woman!! :D ;D

relax, i don't have a wife, (being hypothetical earlier) won't be thinking along those lines for another few years yet!

In all seriousness though, you expect the sly remarks from opposing players,mentors,etc, not a referee. I know referees take plenty of flak, even sometimes undeservedly...in this case though the ref seemingly slabbered at the wrong person and got a digging for his troubles.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 09, 2008, 05:59:47 PM
Minor draw

Round 1
Saturday 13th September
Replay @ 4.00pm
Ballyhegan v Corrinshigo
Sunday 14th @ 5.30pm
Mullabawn v Madden (by agreement)

Round 2

Saturday 13th September
St.Peters v Keady @ 2.00pm
St.Brigids v St.Johns @ 4.00pm

Sunday 14th September @ noon
Clann Eireann v Maghery
St.Patricks v Ballymacnab

Saturday 20th September @ 4.00pm
Pearse Og v Armagh Harps   
M'Bawn /Madden v C/Cruppin
Granemore v Silverbridge
Crossmaglen v B'Hegan/C'Shigo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on September 09, 2008, 10:34:58 PM
Quote from: gander on September 09, 2008, 04:50:32 PM
QuoteOh and the stag weekend before a senior championship game, clearly signals the intent of the Granemore players. Lump on the og's if you can get them -5

Think the Stag do referred too was a month or two ago.  The final straw came last week when the Granemore PRO gave some very harsh critisim after the Whitecross match (whcih they won!!)


The stag do was the weekend just passed. 10 were meant to go, 3 stayed, the other 7 decided to stick together and go. I sympathise with them, this was planned well in advance (last year), football still going in September just shows how much football takes up a club players life.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 09, 2008, 11:05:01 PM
I cant agree there lad - most teams still have games in September its a much safer bet to arrange such events in October or November. I sympathise with the lads though and those 3 should have stuck with the other 7. With regard to the argument about Bubbles getting smacked - I cant condone a ref being battered in a car park even though id love to do it sometimes! However if ever a wee bastard deserved a slap in the mouth its him. This isnt referring to his refereeing just to him as a person!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 10, 2008, 11:58:30 AM
Whats the weather forecast for the weekend??? it could have a bearing on a few results. I hear we needin even turn up for Sunday as Cross are already looking to see who they play in the Ulster championship. We could let on there was a tornado in Lurgan and we couldn't make it ;) :D :D

Although with the state of Lurgan you would think a Tornado had hit it (got that in b4 someone else did ;D)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 10, 2008, 04:44:00 PM
Quote from: nashville on September 09, 2008, 10:34:58 PM
Quote from: gander on September 09, 2008, 04:50:32 PM
QuoteOh and the stag weekend before a senior championship game, clearly signals the intent of the Granemore players. Lump on the og's if you can get them -5

Think the Stag do referred too was a month or two ago.  The final straw came last week when the Granemore PRO gave some very harsh critisim after the Whitecross match (whcih they won!!)


The stag do was the weekend just passed. 10 were meant to go, 3 stayed, the other 7 decided to stick together and go. I sympathise with them, this was planned well in advance (last year), football still going in September just shows how much football takes up a club players life.


Where you one of the 7 nash, shame on you
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 10, 2008, 09:28:34 PM
QuoteWhats the weather forecast for the weekend??? it could have a bearing on a few results. I hear we needin even turn up for Sunday as Cross are already looking to see who they play in the Ulster championship. We could let on there was a tornado in Lurgan and we couldn't make it

from met.ie

Sunday will be mainly dry, with bright or sunny spells. Cool, with light northwesterly or variable winds.

But the guy on RTE after the news just said that Sunday's forecast was "very uncertain".
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 10, 2008, 11:39:12 PM
hope the blues win on sunday ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 11, 2008, 12:45:14 AM
I tell you what lads i know for certain that Clans and the Cross is the dream draw for the blues. Some teams might want to stay away from the Cross but the clans have been looking at dig at them this years in the earlier rounds. I am telling you lot this game will be closer than many on here think. The buzz is back in the ranks and the lads can't wait for the ball to go in. Should be a great game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 11, 2008, 08:53:56 AM
Good weather or bad weather it will be a tough game!  I said it earlier in the thread, Clans are a team that can beat Cross and their dander will be up.  Cross have a few injuries and will find it tough to keep it up.  This could be the one where they are caught, although I would think they would hate to give the Champagne Swillers any bragging rights :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on September 11, 2008, 09:29:40 AM
This is clans chance. it is well documented that the best time to get cross is the early rounds. Should be a good game although i still think cross will win as clans to be honest have not been overly impressive this season.

I take killeavy, harps, cross and ogs for the semis. mightn't pan out like though as a few teams have nothing to lose. Granemore being one of them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 11, 2008, 09:39:11 AM
Granted bubbles they haven't been playing well and  BC the clans have had their own fair share of injuries. Despite this the whole season (long as it has been) boils down to this one game and when this is the case anything can happen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 11, 2008, 09:42:55 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 11, 2008, 08:53:56 AM
Good weather or bad weather it will be a tough game!  I said it earlier in the thread, Clans are a team that can beat Cross and their dander will be up.  Cross have a few injuries and will find it tough to keep it up.  This could be the one where they are caught, although I would think they would hate to give the Champagne Swillers any bragging rights :P

Well lets hope you're right BC ;) I really believe we have a very good chance and everyone seems up for it (but i suppose they seemed up for it in previous years and didn't deliver). At the same time Cross love to play the clans and easily lift their game also. I know people slabber and make things up but i was told one of the cross guys was asked who do they see as a problem in the championship and they are supposed to have said "aye there are a few Derry teams that we would be wary off" Maybe a we bit of complacency creeping in there... 8) 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 11, 2008, 09:58:50 AM
illdecide, I was in contact with one of the lads this morning and they are definitely only looking as far as Sunday.  The same BS always comes up around championship time.  The Clans are on team that Cross do not take lightly.  They have their eyes firmly focused on winning Armagh this year and nothing else, and the Clans are the next step to get over.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on September 11, 2008, 10:27:51 AM
Looks like I can make this match after all. Is it still fixed for 'cruppen. Time? Latest odds on a Clans win?  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on September 11, 2008, 10:39:42 AM
Quote from: Donagh on September 11, 2008, 10:27:51 AM
Looks like I can make this match after all. Is it still fixed for 'cruppen. Time? Latest odds on a Clans win?  :P

Donagh still fixed for cruppen clans are 5/1  to win the match and you can get them + 6 points @ 1/1 - lump on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 11, 2008, 11:06:53 AM
Good to see the confidence in the Clans ranks (although that has never been a problem with them anyway :)), and while I would love to see them win on this ocassion I just dont see it happening, although +6 at Evens seems a decent bet.

I'm more concerned that Cullyhanna minors are playing on their field at 12pm before our SFC game at 2pm.  Wellies could be required.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on September 11, 2008, 11:13:04 AM

lans plus 6 should be buying money. cross will win the game but cross probably don't have the ball winning capacity at midfield to hammer clans
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 11, 2008, 11:29:37 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 11, 2008, 11:06:53 AM
Good to see the confidence in the Clans ranks (although that has never been a problem with them anyway :)), and while I would love to see them win on this ocassion I just dont see it happening, although +6 at Evens seems a decent bet.

I'm more concerned that Cullyhanna minors are playing on their field at 12pm before our SFC game at 2pm.  Wellies could be required.

Benny, Cullyhanna have put in some massive work in their club. It is not the pit it used to be and is  a credit to the club. Pitch is still not the best but a massive improvement.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 11, 2008, 12:12:54 PM
Quote from: corn02 on September 11, 2008, 11:29:37 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 11, 2008, 11:06:53 AM
Good to see the confidence in the Clans ranks (although that has never been a problem with them anyway :)), and while I would love to see them win on this ocassion I just dont see it happening, although +6 at Evens seems a decent bet.

I'm more concerned that Cullyhanna minors are playing on their field at 12pm before our SFC game at 2pm.  Wellies could be required.

Benny, Cullyhanna have put in some massive work in their club. It is not the pit it used to be and is  a credit to the club. Pitch is still not the best but a massive improvement.

Excellent facilities as we were there last Sunday and it is a credit to them. The pitch is not the best but I've certainly played on a lot worse, last Sunday it was dead on and took a stud nicely. Not to hard and not to soft, just the way you like it (yes I'm still talking about the pitch ;) :D)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 11, 2008, 05:18:38 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on September 11, 2008, 10:39:42 AM
Quote from: Donagh on September 11, 2008, 10:27:51 AM
Looks like I can make this match after all. Is it still fixed for 'cruppen. Time? Latest odds on a Clans win?  :P

Donagh still fixed for cruppen clans are 5/1  to win the match and you can get them + 6 points @ 1/1 - lump on

Where have you got these odds? Could you post up all the amtches and handicaps you know?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 11, 2008, 05:22:06 PM
from boyles

Crossmaglen Rangers    2/7    
Pearse Ogs    4/1    
Armagh Harps    12/1    
Mullaghbawn    14/1    
Killeavy    16/1    
Clan Na Ngael (Armagh)    20/1    
Granemore    40/1    
Clann Eireann    50/1

cant see match betting though?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 11, 2008, 06:55:22 PM
forget that, ladbrokes

Armagh Harps 6/4
Draw 15/2
Mullabawn 8/13

Pearse Og 1/6
Draw 10/1
Granemore 9/2

Clann Eireann 11/4
Draw 15/2
Killeavy 1/3

Crossmaglen 1/8
Draw 9/1
Clan na Gael 6/1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 11, 2008, 08:42:53 PM
Just straight bets then nail no handicaps???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 11, 2008, 08:50:29 PM
Thats all at the minute but I have said to the boss, have had a good lot of wans in tonight already looking handicaps for it so he will prob get some drew up tomorro... Spose you would fancy Clans plus a few points win?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 11, 2008, 10:09:07 PM
Cross will not be taking the Clans challenge lightly.
They have a great championship tradition and we will be giving them full respect.

We will definitely not have David mc Kenna or Brendan mc Keown.
These boys will be a huge loss especially Mc Kenna as we got cleaned at midfield against Dromintee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 11, 2008, 11:01:45 PM
cross will beat clans handy i went to watch cullyhanna and clans last sunday morning clans put out there c ship team as a warm up game before the cross game.well after 13 min clans were 10 points down cullyhanna run them off the field mal mackin and ciaran mc keever running mid field.this cullyhanna side if they can get out off the intermid c ship no team will want to play them in the first round cause with a full team they are as good as anyone finshed 3rd in DIV 1 and beat the ogs at home when ogs had a full team.so all in all cross for a 8 or 9 point win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 12, 2008, 02:01:19 AM
Back of the net, Cullyhanna will never win anything so you are only kidding yourself if you think a warm up game a week before a championship game is the be all and end all. If the clans or any other first division team dew Cullyhanna they would be happy enough with the draw. YOu say the clans put out their championship team last week. No one puts out a championship team until the day of the championship. Are you seriously trying to say that out of all the teams to play friendlies the closest to cross was cullyhanna??? and that the clans thought cullyhanna would play the same football as the cross??. Catch a grip and come into reality. The clans will take cross as a completly different animal. They will see them as a team dificult to play against more so than anything else. I have been in a few dressing rooms when we played St Pat's and we never mentioned about St Pat's being hard to play against or their type of play. To beat the cross the clans will have to exploit their weaknesses. Believe it or not they have got them. If the clans can penetrate the cross and keep their forward line relatively quite then they are in with a shout. I can tell you they won't be beaten by no 8 points. There is too much pride in that jersey to be beaten by 8 or 9 points for the second time in 3 years. The clans are badly hurting from the 2006 championship final. A lot of guys have points to prove, because on that day there were a few that let the club down badly and i know first hand they will be out on sunday to give ll they have.


I wouldn't bet on the match myself nail it would be a big conflict of interest ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 12, 2008, 09:15:23 AM
Harps at 6/4 is a great price, I thought it would have been an Even money match.  We beat Mullaghbawn in Abbey (despite the cheating umpires & Ollie Hearty) and got caught by a last minute goal up there after playing a lot of the game with 14 men, so the price is generous IMO.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 12, 2008, 09:25:54 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 12, 2008, 02:01:19 AM
Back of the net, Cullyhanna will never win anything so you are only kidding yourself if you think a warm up game a week before a championship game is the be all and end all. If the clans or any other first division team dew Cullyhanna they would be happy enough with the draw. YOu say the clans put out their championship team last week. No one puts out a championship team until the day of the championship. Are you seriously trying to say that out of all the teams to play friendlies the closest to cross was cullyhanna??? and that the clans thought cullyhanna would play the same football as the cross??. Catch a grip and come into reality. The clans will take cross as a completly different animal. They will see them as a team dificult to play against more so than anything else. I have been in a few dressing rooms when we played St Pat's and we never mentioned about St Pat's being hard to play against or their type of play. To beat the cross the clans will have to exploit their weaknesses. Believe it or not they have got them. If the clans can penetrate the cross and keep their forward line relatively quite then they are in with a shout. I can tell you they won't be beaten by no 8 points. There is too much pride in that jersey to be beaten by 8 or 9 points for the second time in 3 years. The clans are badly hurting from the 2006 championship final. A lot of guys have points to prove, because on that day there were a few that let the club down badly and i know first hand they will be out on sunday to give ll they have.


Lets be honest winsam, if Cullyhanna wont win anything Clans have no chance.
With an attitude like yours it is easy to see why Clans arent liked by many neutrals
Although no teams needs motivated for c'ship football, if Cross ever needed motivated they would just stick up a few of your posts regarding Clans pride etc etc :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 12, 2008, 09:52:01 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 12, 2008, 09:15:23 AM
Harps at 6/4 is a great price, I thought it would have been an Even money match.  We beat Mullaghbawn in Abbey (despite the cheating umpires & Ollie Hearty) and got caught by a last minute goal up there after playing a lot of the game with 14 men, so the price is generous IMO.

Caught my eye to Benny. Before they came up I would of have Harps very slight favourites.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 12, 2008, 09:56:30 AM
UP THE CLANS   ;D ;D ;D ;D


CROSS BY 1O Points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 12, 2008, 10:13:58 AM
Fancy Harps, Killeavey, Cross and Ogs myself...

6-4, 1-8, 1-6 and 1-3 pays just under 7-2, 4.38 for a pound...

Keep the harps thing quiet, we don't want the wans at laddies changing the price now do we!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 12, 2008, 10:17:52 AM
So it is wrong now to have pride in your team full back  ??? :-\ Oh and when i say that Cullyhanna won't win anything that doesn't mean the clans will. You have once again just taken that out of what i have posted.
The difference is that i don't hide from the facts. Certain other individuals don't really speak their own minds and say what they really want to say for fear of offending. Do you think Cullyhanna will ever win anything in the near future at senior level??? I personally think them finishing 3rd in the league doesn't really mean that much but you seem to think it puts them on a level with other proven teams over the years. I think this is off the mark and this is nothing to do with arrogance it is an observation.

Oh and i doubt also that Cross would take their motivation from an internet site. Yes i can see them the sat night before a game saying look at what winsamsoon wrote on the Gaaboard  ;D ;D :D.

Benny i think your are right lad i think the harps are worth a slight wager at 6/4 . I would have had that match on the toss of a coin so i would have had maybe harps slight fav's at 10/11 and The bawn 11/10.

Umgolaar you settle yourself  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 12, 2008, 10:39:51 AM
winsamsoon, you'd be surprised how much motivation is taken from sites like this ;)

I have said it before and will say it again, I think Clans will be hard to beat.  I would be happy with a scrappy 1-2 point win so long as Cross are in the next round.  Hopefully they will and there will be a semi against Killeavey and the other semi will be an all Armagh clash of Og's and Harps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on September 12, 2008, 10:50:31 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 12, 2008, 10:39:51 AM
winsamsoon, you'd be surprised how much motivation is taken from sites like this ;)

I have said it before and will say it again, I think Clans will be hard to beat.  I would be happy with a scrappy 1-2 point win so long as Cross are in the next round.  Hopefully they will and there will be a semi against Killeavey and the other semi will be an all Armagh clash of Og's and Harps.

right lads enough shite talk let the two teams do the talking on the pitch- full back you would know more about a big loaf- as*hole.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 12, 2008, 11:13:36 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on September 12, 2008, 10:50:31 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 12, 2008, 10:39:51 AM
winsamsoon, you'd be surprised how much motivation is taken from sites like this ;)

I have said it before and will say it again, I think Clans will be hard to beat.  I would be happy with a scrappy 1-2 point win so long as Cross are in the next round.  Hopefully they will and there will be a semi against Killeavey and the other semi will be an all Armagh clash of Og's and Harps.

full back you would know more about a big loaf- as*hole.

Spot on, my Da is a baker.........
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on September 12, 2008, 11:15:50 AM
Quote from: full back on September 12, 2008, 11:13:36 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on September 12, 2008, 10:50:31 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 12, 2008, 10:39:51 AM
winsamsoon, you'd be surprised how much motivation is taken from sites like this ;)

I have said it before and will say it again, I think Clans will be hard to beat.  I would be happy with a scrappy 1-2 point win so long as Cross are in the next round.  Hopefully they will and there will be a semi against Killeavey and the other semi will be an all Armagh clash of Og's and Harps.

full back you would know more about a big loaf- as*hole.

Spot on, my Da is a baker.........


Ah and i Bet he regrets putting a certain bun in the oven i.e you
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 12, 2008, 11:17:16 AM
:D
Typical Lurgan wit
Must have been on the Buckie early this morning, just another day in your life then :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 12, 2008, 11:26:31 AM
Quote from: full back on September 12, 2008, 11:17:16 AM
:D
Typical Lurgan wit
Must have been on the Buckie early this morning, just another day in your life then :-\

What do you mean by that Fullback??? I'm from Lurgan so are you calling me the same???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 12, 2008, 11:30:04 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 12, 2008, 11:26:31 AM
Quote from: full back on September 12, 2008, 11:17:16 AM
:D
Typical Lurgan wit
Must have been on the Buckie early this morning, just another day in your life then :-\

What do you mean by that Fullback??? I'm from Lurgan so are you calling me the same???

Calm down illdecide, calm down. Bit early to be getting hyped up.
If I was talking about all people from Lurgan I would specify that I was talking about all people from Lurgan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 12, 2008, 12:38:01 PM
Im from Lurgan too and I actually am on the buckfast this morning - good observation full back!! ;D Fancy joining me anyone? Come on in the waters fine!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 12, 2008, 12:47:23 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 12, 2008, 10:17:52 AM
So it is wrong now to have pride in your team full back  ??? :-\ Oh and when i say that Cullyhanna won't win anything that doesn't mean the clans will. You have once again just taken that out of what i have posted.
The difference is that i don't hide from the facts. Certain other individuals don't really speak their own minds and say what they really want to say for fear of offending. Do you think Cullyhanna will ever win anything in the near future at senior level??? I personally think them finishing 3rd in the league doesn't really mean that much but you seem to think it puts them on a level with other proven teams over the years. I think this is off the mark and this is nothing to do with arrogance it is an observation.



To be honest Win, over the last two or three years of what I have seen, I would have Cullyhanna and Clans on a par.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on September 12, 2008, 12:51:42 PM
rumours floating about armagh that the pearse og v granemore game is being called off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 12, 2008, 12:55:33 PM
Quote from: bubbles on September 12, 2008, 12:51:42 PM
rumours floating about armagh that the pearse og v granemore game is being called off
Nothing has been confirmed yet although it is in relation to the death of Peggy Harney R.I.P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 12, 2008, 01:03:48 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 12, 2008, 12:38:01 PM
Im from Lurgan too and I actually am on the buckfast this morning - good observation full back!! ;D Fancy joining me anyone? Come on in the waters fine!! ;D ;D ;D

You going to the foresters?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on September 12, 2008, 01:09:05 PM
Quote from: corn02 on September 12, 2008, 12:47:23 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 12, 2008, 10:17:52 AM
So it is wrong now to have pride in your team full back  ??? :-\ Oh and when i say that Cullyhanna won't win anything that doesn't mean the clans will. You have once again just taken that out of what i have posted.
The difference is that i don't hide from the facts. Certain other individuals don't really speak their own minds and say what they really want to say for fear of offending. Do you think Cullyhanna will ever win anything in the near future at senior level??? I personally think them finishing 3rd in the league doesn't really mean that much but you seem to think it puts them on a level with other proven teams over the years. I think this is off the mark and this is nothing to do with arrogance it is an observation.



To be honest Win, over the last two or three years of what I have seen, I would have Cullyhanna and Clans on a par.

The clans took 4 league points of Cullyhanna this year too easy wins so put that in your pipe and smoke it you fool
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 12, 2008, 01:16:48 PM
Quote from: corn02 on September 12, 2008, 12:47:23 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 12, 2008, 10:17:52 AM
So it is wrong now to have pride in your team full back  ??? :-\ Oh and when i say that Cullyhanna won't win anything that doesn't mean the clans will. You have once again just taken that out of what i have posted.
The difference is that i don't hide from the facts. Certain other individuals don't really speak their own minds and say what they really want to say for fear of offending. Do you think Cullyhanna will ever win anything in the near future at senior level??? I personally think them finishing 3rd in the league doesn't really mean that much but you seem to think it puts them on a level with other proven teams over the years. I think this is off the mark and this is nothing to do with arrogance it is an observation.




To be honest Win, over the last two or three years of what I have seen, I would have Cullyhanna and Clans on a par.


Where would you place Dromintee on this list son?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 12, 2008, 01:23:57 PM
Top
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 12, 2008, 02:12:00 PM
Corn misses the point again. Just because you put the clans on a par with Cullyhanna over the last couple of years doesn't mean cullyhanna are going to win anything. :o :o

You see there is a habit on here when someone posts a view, certain folk read it and reply to it by slagging of the club of the original poster. At the same time they totally miss the point at hand and the whole thing then escalates into another debate.

I said that Cullyhanna wouldn't win anything. Based on what i have seen of them this year imho they are nothing special. This doesn't then mean that the clans will win something. If you ask me from what i have seen this year of the clans i would also say that they wouldn't win anything. But this wasn't the issue.

This is driving me to drink so i will have to go and pay a visit to i'vedecided. ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 12, 2008, 02:26:47 PM
Cross 1/5
Harps 1/1
Ogs 1/5
Killeavey 4/11

Prices from Newry, more realistic to be honest
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 12, 2008, 02:33:48 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 12, 2008, 02:12:00 PM
Corn misses the point again. Just because you put the clans on a par with Cullyhanna over the last couple of years doesn't mean cullyhanna are going to win anything. :o :o

You see there is a habit on here when someone posts a view, certain folk read it and reply to it by slagging of the club of the original poster. At the same time they totally miss the point at hand and the whole thing then escalates into another debate.

I said that Cullyhanna wouldn't win anything. Based on what i have seen of them this year imho they are nothing special. This doesn't then mean that the clans will win something. If you ask me from what i have seen this year of the clans i would also say that they wouldn't win anything. But this wasn't the issue.

This is driving me to drink so i will have to go and pay a visit to i'vedecided. ;) :D

You were responding to Back of the Nets' comments on Clans v Cullyhanna match so I think it was in line with point. Alos, I don't think I slagged your club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 12, 2008, 02:34:54 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 12, 2008, 01:16:48 PM
Quote from: corn02 on September 12, 2008, 12:47:23 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 12, 2008, 10:17:52 AM
So it is wrong now to have pride in your team full back  ??? :-\ Oh and when i say that Cullyhanna won't win anything that doesn't mean the clans will. You have once again just taken that out of what i have posted.
The difference is that i don't hide from the facts. Certain other individuals don't really speak their own minds and say what they really want to say for fear of offending. Do you think Cullyhanna will ever win anything in the near future at senior level??? I personally think them finishing 3rd in the league doesn't really mean that much but you seem to think it puts them on a level with other proven teams over the years. I think this is off the mark and this is nothing to do with arrogance it is an observation.




To be honest Win, over the last two or three years of what I have seen, I would have Cullyhanna and Clans on a par.


Where would you place Dromintee on this list son?

Did not mention Dromintee. All I could say is certainly not top as Cross defeated us.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 12, 2008, 03:28:31 PM
No i was not responding to the clans and Cullyhana game i was talking as i wasn't at it. I was saying that Cullyhanna would win anything and that you couldn't judge a championship game set for this weekend on any other match that has occured in the season. I never mentioned the clans being better than Cullyhanna or even the same as they. I wasn't even comparing the teams in anyway. However this seemed to be the centre of your post. What was the reason for this??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 12, 2008, 03:55:15 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 12, 2008, 12:55:33 PM
Quote from: bubbles on September 12, 2008, 12:51:42 PM
rumours floating about armagh that the pearse og v granemore game is being called off
Nothing has been confirmed yet although it is in relation to the death of Peggy Harney R.I.P

Considering Joe Harney is President of the Ogs i think its only right that the game be postponed. My sentiments to the Harney family at this time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 12, 2008, 03:57:34 PM
Well ignoring the fact that you said you would be happy to get them in the Championship, if you can't base anything on non-Championship games how can you be so sure Cullyhanna would't win. You do slabber a lot around Championship time. As I say time and time again, leave the Clans posting to Illdecide.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 12, 2008, 07:18:48 PM
You do a fair bit of mouthing yourself and correct me if i am wrong i think your club have fallen to the way side again. Another year without a senior championship.

I guess we shall have to leave this one then too see if Cullyhanna will win anything. They will be lucky winning the intermediate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 12, 2008, 07:31:07 PM
Quote from: BenDover on September 12, 2008, 03:55:15 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 12, 2008, 12:55:33 PM
Quote from: bubbles on September 12, 2008, 12:51:42 PM
rumours floating about armagh that the pearse og v granemore game is being called off
Nothing has been confirmed yet although it is in relation to the death of Peggy Harney R.I.P

Considering Joe Harney is President of the Ogs i think its only right that the game be postponed. My sentiments to the Harney family at this time

Pardon my ignorance, what relation are they?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinknHarp on September 12, 2008, 08:04:33 PM
Anyone have a lineup for Cross (CF or BC) ?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 12, 2008, 09:21:10 PM
Quote from: DrinknHarp on September 12, 2008, 08:04:33 PM
Anyone have a lineup for Cross (CF or BC) ?



Paul Hearty

Califf  Murtagh McKeown

Fitzie  Francie  Gary McShane

John Mac  Big Anthony

The Crow  Tony Mac  Oisin

Wee Jim  BC   Big Colm


Is that alright?  :P 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinknHarp on September 12, 2008, 09:45:24 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 12, 2008, 09:21:10 PM
Quote from: DrinknHarp on September 12, 2008, 08:04:33 PM
Anyone have a lineup for Cross (CF or BC) ?



Paul Hearty

Califf  Murtagh McKeown

Fitzie  Francie  Gary McShane

John Mac  Big Anthony

The Crow  Tony Mac  Oisin

Wee Jim  BC   Big Colm


Is that alright?  :P 

TY,

sent a PM
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 12, 2008, 10:34:48 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 12, 2008, 07:18:48 PM
Another year without a senior championship.


Don't worry you will be joining me on Sunday evening.

Dromintee fallen by the way side? Were doing ok, just not good enough for Cross.

Don't want to make this a Dromintee v Clans thing nagain because Clans ones are ok, your just a whing wee fishwife that probably annoys anyone who stands beside you at a match.

Oh and if Cross do defeat you, I am sure you 'll have some consipracy theory as to why the ref screwed yous, or bet against yous or kicked all there points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 13, 2008, 04:44:49 PM
You really do amuse me Corn  :D The fishwife one took the biscuit.

Oh and we may be joining u on sunday but we still have the championship medals in the bag. sorry i forgot Dromintees league medal ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 13, 2008, 05:16:06 PM
tones cullaville game switched to granemore tomorrow @15:30 due to death in pearse of club
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu08 on September 13, 2008, 05:44:22 PM
Any1 at clann eireann v killeavy?? updates please???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 13, 2008, 06:01:37 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 13, 2008, 04:44:49 PM
You really do amuse me Corn  :D The fishwife one took the biscuit.

Oh and we may be joining u on sunday but we still have the championship medals in the bag. sorry i forgot Dromintees league medal ;) :D

Boom boom!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu08 on September 13, 2008, 06:58:37 PM
clann eireann getting beat by 8 with 6 mins to go i hear!!    was always on cards for killeavy to win this easy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 13, 2008, 07:36:11 PM
last i heard ogs was winning 10 - 8

any updates?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on September 13, 2008, 07:45:00 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on September 13, 2008, 07:36:11 PM
last i heard ogs was winning 10 - 8

any updates?

Ógs won by 2 points;  2.10 to 1.11.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 13, 2008, 07:47:45 PM
ogs won by four points

any reports

when are the other games being played

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu08 on September 13, 2008, 07:58:44 PM
killeavy won convincingly against clann eireann....didnt hear final score though....cross v clans is on tomorrow at 5.30pm and i think the harps game is at 2.30pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu08 on September 13, 2008, 08:18:42 PM
any suggestions for probable lineups Cross v Clans ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: FermPundit on September 13, 2008, 08:25:55 PM
Killeavy 0-19 Clann Eireann 1-08
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 13, 2008, 08:27:04 PM
Ogs won 2-9 to 0-11 but looked to be in real danger of getting beaten with a few minutes to go, think it was 1-8 to 0-10 with Granemore doing all the pressing, when Chris Rafferty lifted the seige with a great goal for Ogs to effectively kill off the game.  

Ogs were very wasteful in the first half but still went in 0-5 to 0-2 ahead, Granemore pegged a few points back and at 0-7 to 0-6 to Ogs it looked anybodys game, then came the first of the Ogs goals, which was a very sloppy goal to concede from a Granemore POV, Ronan Clarke stuck the ball away after a Granemore defender lost possession.  Leading 1-7 to 0-6 I assumed that would be it, but Granemore tagged on a few more points and then looked like a team who realised the Ogs were there for the taking, they just lacked that bit of bite and class up front.  Best for Ogs were Shorty Clarke, Mickey Toner and Chris Rafferty - they were absolutely annihilated at MF were Kieran Toner gave an exhibition of fielding not seen in Armagh club football since Mark Grimley was in his pomp.  Tony McClelland was good too, but you could see the lack of match practice in him and he ran out of gas.

Noticed Donal Murtagh there and I'd say he came away happy, if the Ogs are Cross's main rivals they dont have too much to worry about.


Hear Killeavey won 0-19 to 1-8
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on September 13, 2008, 08:53:15 PM
and then there were 6  ;D

lack of draws this year so far..mayb 2mo may b the day...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 13, 2008, 09:11:49 PM
I bet a "trixie" on Ladbrokes on Cross, Killeavy and Ogs. Don't now much about trixies, although my uncle used to have a cat with that name, but it looks good so far.  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 14, 2008, 02:25:09 AM
may not look so good the next day our fella.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 14, 2008, 09:11:43 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 13, 2008, 09:11:49 PM
I bet a "trixie" on Ladbrokes on Cross, Killeavy and Ogs. Don't now much about trixies, although my uncle used to have a cat with that name, but it looks good so far.  :)

A £10 treble at 1/6, 1/5 and 4/11 wont have you retiring - works about roughly 10/11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 14, 2008, 01:58:21 PM
A trixie is 3 doubles and a treble.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on September 14, 2008, 03:56:41 PM
Harps 0-11 Mullaghbawn 1-6

First and foremost congratulations to Harps.  It was a very poor game with a strong breeze blowing.  The same old problem was evident today as once again we were lacking in the forward depatment-missing three 14 yard frees in the first half....a massive free for all at the end prob was the most entertaining feature for the neutral present.....the scuffle started beside the harps bench and it was not helped when the whole harps bench came on to the field and hence the free for all started resultin in 2 red cards one for each team....but anyway best of luck to harps in the rest of the championship..thought G Swift was outstanding today
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 14, 2008, 04:30:34 PM
well done to the harps,

would like to see and ogs v harps semi, in the athletic grounds would be a great match and occasion to open the field properly
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 14, 2008, 04:33:32 PM
Entertainint but poor quality game in Cullyhanna.

Wind didn't help and Mullaghbawn kicked some awful wides in the first half. Their defence did well, especially Bennett and Smyth. Kelly and Swift were the best fopr the Harps.
Think it was 4-2 at half time.

The second half wasd tight throughout but Harps were in control. Mullaghabwn got a goal out of nothing (Kelly?) to get it back to one and when they kicked over the next to draw there looked like only one winner. Harps fought back though and just about deserved to go through.
Vernon was missing in the second half and I was in a bad position in the first so I don't know if he missed the whole match or came off injured.

The row was quite a punch-up. Both benches involved and plenty of thumps. Who was sent off Real, didn;t even see that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2008, 04:34:55 PM
The Bridge beat keady in the IFC by double scores.




Would someone from Cullyhanna like to explain why Ciaran McKeever refused to present children from the 'bridge with medals for winning the u10 blitz?  Why Fr Cullen had to do it and why McKeever could then proceed to present the rest of the medals to other teams?  Why members of your club and McKeever's family are trying to put it around that the children refused to accept the medals from him, surely yous can come up with a better excuse for his bizare and cuntish behaviour than that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 14, 2008, 04:52:44 PM
why would yous want ciaran to hand them out when every one from the bridge does not like him.do yous have no county men your selfs lol.....???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2008, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: back off the net on September 14, 2008, 04:52:44 PM
why would yous want ciaran to hand them out when every one from the bridge does not like him.do yous have no county men your selfs lol.....???

Never in my life have I heard of a county player (or any player) refusing to give medals to children from a particular club. 
I sincerely hope that it makes Ciaran feel like a big man because if that's what he needs to feel tough then I'm very sad for him. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on September 14, 2008, 05:16:56 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on September 14, 2008, 03:56:41 PM
Harps 0-11 Mullaghbawn 1-6

First and foremost congratulations to Harps.  It was a very poor game with a strong breeze blowing.  The same old problem was evident today as once again we were lacking in the forward depatment-missing three 14 yard frees in the first half....a massive free for all at the end prob was the most entertaining feature for the neutral present.....the scuffle started beside the harps bench and it was not helped when the whole harps bench came on to the field and hence the free for all started resultin in 2 red cards one for each team....but anyway best of luck to harps in the rest of the championship..thought G Swift was outstanding today


The fact that Gary Quinn kneed Gareth Swift in the head when he was on the ground probably did not help the row starting, Swift is still is hospital being treated for serious concussion.

Great win for Harps today, must be honest when Bawn scored 1-02 without reply to go in front i thought that was it for the harps, but a great performance from midfield and half back line really took the game to Bawn going up the hill into the wind. All told, the difference between the two sides was some of the shockihg misses from frees Mullaghbawn had in the first half whereas Harps were able to convert their chances.

When is the Semi-final draw?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 14, 2008, 05:17:47 PM
A great win for Harps who showed plenty of balls in the second half to come from behind late on.  The win was all the sweeter as we had to do it without Vernon who sustained an injury in training on Friday night and was unable to feature.

Harps played with a strong wind at their backs in the first half and lead 0-6 to 0-2 at HT, Mullaghbawn missed a shocking amount of chances in the half and could have been going in at HT in front.  With the big wind our lead looked precarious to say the least, but the expected Mullaghbawn onslaught in the 2nd half didnt really materialise, we played better into the wind (as did the 'bawn). I thought we looked like like we were capable of holding on to our lead, but Mullaghbawn's goal changed that very quickly, a point or two for M'bawn put them ahead and I thought we were goners at that stage, but we dug deep Philly Mckinney hit a great piont from play to rally the troops and we finished the stronger, with the game level near the end Kevin Kelly won a ball he'd no right to win and Joe Quigely popped over a pressure free to put us one in front, Kelly made sure with another free late on.  

A great team performance, great to see the spirit shown in the second half.  Nippy played excellently, as did Kevin Kelly but my MOTM would have to be Marty McCoy who played CHB in Vernon's absence and had a mighty second half.   Harps scorers Kevin Kelly 0-7 (6fs), Joe Quigley 0-2, P MCKinney (0-1), S Morrison (0-1).  Nice to be sitting in a semi with players of the quality of Vernon and Collie Holmes to come in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: john mcgill on September 14, 2008, 05:34:55 PM
I thought that it was a poor first half, it took Mullaghbawn 22 minutes to score their first point.  The second half was a lot livelier.  I thought that the Harps management made the right calls and this won the game for them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on September 14, 2008, 05:58:43 PM
good spirited display today from the harps,mullaghbawn missed some handy frees in 1st half that could have put us away,were when we got frees in second hlf kevin and joe converted,scores win games.with holmes and vernon to come back in for us it should really lift the team and as umgola says a local derby in the semis wouldnt be a bad draw for either team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu08 on September 14, 2008, 06:04:02 PM
cross up by 12 points against clans

2-07 to 0-01
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 14, 2008, 06:05:19 PM
Quote from: john mcgill on September 14, 2008, 05:34:55 PM
I thought that it was a poor first half, it took Mullaghbawn 22 minutes to score their first point.  The second half was a lot livelier.  I thought that the Harps management made the right calls and this won the game for them.
Yes, fair play to the management, they've been getting in the neck all year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2008, 06:11:26 PM
Quote from: ardmhachaabu08 on September 14, 2008, 06:04:02 PM
cross up by 12 points against clans

2-07 to 0-01

Corn quit laughing!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on September 14, 2008, 06:17:39 PM
ht cross up by 15 :o :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 14, 2008, 06:31:37 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on September 12, 2008, 09:56:30 AM
UP THE CLANS   ;D ;D ;D ;D


CROSS BY 1O Points


Was not far off!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 14, 2008, 07:07:55 PM

text i got after the game read "cross cake walk, clans embarrassing"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling SEMI FINALS
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 14, 2008, 07:08:08 PM
OGS V KILLEAVY
CROSS V HARPS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 14, 2008, 07:20:48 PM
Got a text saying we'd got Cross alright.  Obviously would have been nice to avoid them but you are going to meet them at some stage.  We are in a good position in that we have hot f**k all to lose and hopefully will be at full strength.  If we go down, we will go down fighting anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 14, 2008, 07:28:37 PM
No one home yet in th BC homestead but what was the score?  If it was as bad as the early reports are, then there is something seriously messed up in Clans.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 14, 2008, 07:29:39 PM
Cross 3 - 15   Clans 0 - 4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 14, 2008, 07:32:10 PM
Clans would have been better off not fielding and heading to the burn early to get the pints in. Most gutless display I've seen from a clans team ever, not sure of final score but it was 3-13 to 0-02 when i left. Sent packing with legs firmly between legs, where to now for the blues??Heard McCaugh got sent off as well, not sure what for.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 14, 2008, 07:34:20 PM
Thought Clans confidence was misplaced but didn't think they'd get that big a tanking.  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 14, 2008, 07:34:51 PM
That's a serious score to win by and may do Cross no good in the end up.  Competitive games are what is needed, not shooting practise
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 14, 2008, 07:40:40 PM
Can't explain the pathetic performance,  Clans have some really good footballers. Just like Waterford in the hurling final, didn't show in the day. pathetic in the end
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 14, 2008, 07:41:07 PM
Just back, 20 in it when I left. I couldn't tell you who played well because I wasn'tr even watching it was that poor.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 14, 2008, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 12, 2008, 02:01:19 AM
. I can tell you they won't be beaten by no 8 points. There is too much pride in that jersey to be beaten by 8 or 9 points for the second time in 3 years. The clans are badly hurting from the 2006 championship final. A lot of guys have points to prove, because on that day there were a few that let the club down badly and i know first hand they will be out on sunday to give ll they have.


Apologies to Lurgan Gael and Illdecide, this is not for you but for Win:

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on September 14, 2008, 07:44:09 PM
3.15 to 4 at the end. Cross could easily have had a few more as well. Terrible showing...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2008, 07:47:26 PM
Quote from: corn02 on September 14, 2008, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 12, 2008, 02:01:19 AM
. I can tell you they won't be beaten by no 8 points. There is too much pride in that jersey to be beaten by 8 or 9 points for the second time in 3 years. The clans are badly hurting from the 2006 championship final. A lot of guys have points to prove, because on that day there were a few that let the club down badly and i know first hand they will be out on sunday to give ll they have.


Apologies to Lurgan Gael and Illdecide, this is not for you but for Win:

:D

and I convinced bad pints not to go copying and pasting from people's previous posts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 14, 2008, 07:51:00 PM
as i said last week cullyhanna beat clans 1.18 to 4.6 and i said cross would beat them by 10 points or more.well who was right.???
that was the worse team i have ever seen playing cross in 10 years it was a waste off 10 euro going to watch that shit.clans looked like a DIV 3 side all there supporters were leaving at half time that says something about there team and supporters lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: milltown row on September 14, 2008, 07:51:57 PM
how would these other teams in Armagh do if they played in other counties? are they that poor or Cross so good.

having seen Cross put us away in the Ulster Club Final last year i think i know the answer
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 14, 2008, 07:52:38 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2008, 07:47:26 PM
Quote from: corn02 on September 14, 2008, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 12, 2008, 02:01:19 AM
. I can tell you they won't be beaten by no 8 points. There is too much pride in that jersey to be beaten by 8 or 9 points for the second time in 3 years. The clans are badly hurting from the 2006 championship final. A lot of guys have points to prove, because on that day there were a few that let the club down badly and i know first hand they will be out on sunday to give ll they have.


Apologies to Lurgan Gael and Illdecide, this is not for you but for Win:

:D

and I convinced bad pints not to go copying and pasting from people's previous posts.

Ah I could of been the biggerman, just a bit of banter Win. TK was very good on what I did see.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 14, 2008, 07:55:44 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2008, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: back off the net on September 14, 2008, 04:52:44 PM
why would yous want ciaran to hand them out when every one from the bridge does not like him.do yous have no county men your selfs lol.....???

Never in my life have I heard of a county player (or any player) refusing to give medals to children from a particular club. 
I sincerely hope that it makes Ciaran feel like a big man because if that's what he needs to feel tough then I'm very sad for him. 
Pints, don't know where you are getting your information from but that is a LIE!! It was an u-8 blitz and Ciaran and Fr Cullen took turns in givin out the medals to each of the nine teams that were there as asked by those who organised it. The teams were called in no particular order and just happened that the Bridge were given theirs by Fr Cullen. FACT! Your hatred of all things Cullyhanna knows no bounds. GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 14, 2008, 07:57:38 PM
WINSAMSOON you may wish to look back at what you wee saying on sep 12 about players having pride in there jersey lol don't make me laugh.there still hurting from 2006 and will still be hurting even more tonight in 2008 lol.i would not like to be going into a war with them players if thats what u call pride in your jersey
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 14, 2008, 07:58:03 PM
Quote from: back off the net on September 14, 2008, 07:51:00 PM
as i said last week cullyhanna beat clans 1.18 to 4.6 and i said cross would beat them by 10 points or more.well who was right.???
that was the worse team i have ever seen playing cross in 10 years it was a waste off 10 euro going to watch that shit.clans looked like a DIV 3 side all there supporters were leaving at half time that says something about there team and supporters lol

get off your highhorse ballbag. Quite possibly the best team ever in Ireland and you chastise us for being hammered. Poor performance yes and i've very disappointed, last thing any one needs is a tube like you slabbering. Its very easy to predict a cross win considering no one has beaten them in near 13 yrs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2008, 08:04:23 PM
Quote from: mackers on September 14, 2008, 07:55:44 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2008, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: back off the net on September 14, 2008, 04:52:44 PM
why would yous want ciaran to hand them out when every one from the bridge does not like him.do yous have no county men your selfs lol.....???

Never in my life have I heard of a county player (or any player) refusing to give medals to children from a particular club. 
I sincerely hope that it makes Ciaran feel like a big man because if that's what he needs to feel tough then I'm very sad for him. 
Pints, don't know where you are getting your information from but that is a LIE!! It was an u-8 blitz and Ciaran and Fr Cullen took turns in givin out the medals to each of the nine teams that were there as asked by those who organised it. The teams were called in no particular order and just happened that the Bridge were given theirs by Fr Cullen. FACT! Your hatred of all things Cullyhanna knows no bounds. GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!
Of course. 

Thought you werent a cullyhanna man btw?  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on September 14, 2008, 08:04:45 PM
Quote from: nashville on September 14, 2008, 05:16:56 PM
The fact that Gary Quinn kneed Gareth Swift in the head when he was on the ground probably did not help the row starting, Swift is still is hospital being treated for serious concussion.

Gary Quinn  ???

Corn it was McKee for harps and eamon quinn lined...

jesus cant believe the clans cross result wasn at it but surely clans could hav put of a better show..in my recollection i can never can remember such a wide margin in a senior championship game...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on September 14, 2008, 08:05:08 PM
Mackers. You should not let him wind you up! Hope the blitz went well. Tullysaran went to the Moy yesterday for their u-8  tournament beating the hosts by a pont in the final. Very well run event and the Moy could definitely teach many people how to organise such events. It is always good getting something out of Tyrone!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2008, 08:14:36 PM
Throwball I don't think mackers needs his golf buddies to come online to hold his hand.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on September 14, 2008, 08:17:25 PM
Pints. Do not take everthing to heart. If you miss Armagh so much come on home. The craic would be great. A slack in the pub is always better than one online!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2008, 08:18:49 PM
What?  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on September 14, 2008, 08:20:24 PM
Sorry pints. Spelling not the best. I meant a slag. No dig intended.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: under the bar on September 14, 2008, 08:33:52 PM
QuoteQuite possibly the best team ever in Ireland and you chastise us for being hammered.

Don't get too carried away with yourself now, they took a fair pasting from St Vincents.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 14, 2008, 08:38:07 PM
tones and cullaville drew 1-12 a piece.good game, cullavile scored goal with 2 mins left to go point infront thought it was curtains for us but wee gota late point to get another bite at the cherry.  we where the better side deserved to win just hoping we havent left it behind.

went to cross game waste of time left after halftime like corn couldnt tell you how game wentr as wasnt watching it.  clans a joke.  some posters set them up for a fall how a team beaten by tirnanog in the previous years championship can expect to get near cross is beyond me!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on September 14, 2008, 09:00:39 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on September 14, 2008, 08:04:45 PM
Quote from: nashville on September 14, 2008, 05:16:56 PM
The fact that Gary Quinn kneed Gareth Swift in the head when he was on the ground probably did not help the row starting, Swift is still is hospital being treated for serious concussion.

Gary Quinn  ???

Corn it was McKee for harps and eamon quinn lined...

jesus cant believe the clans cross result wasn at it but surely clans could hav put of a better show..in my recollection i can never can remember such a wide margin in a senior championship game...


Sorry that was my mistake, thought his name was Gary.

O and by the way, I wouldn't expect to hear from Gaapunter for a while. Unless of course now that Clans were hammered he comes out and reveals he is a Killeavey man.

To all the other Clans posters, yes you have gave the Harps a shocking hard time over getting relegated etc, but there is no point in me gloating about Clans getting stuffed, they were stuffed by the best club team in Ireland. Cross have the potential to do that to any team, it just happened to be Clans today. Hopefully Harps can keep it closer and possibly sneak a win if they stay with Cross for 50mins, but realistically Cross have their eyes set on an Ulster club at the very least, All-Ireland club is their real glory.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 14, 2008, 09:03:12 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on September 14, 2008, 08:38:07 PM
tones and cullaville drew 1-12 a piece.good game, cullavile scored goal with 2 mins left to go point infront thought it was curtains for us but wee gota late point to get another bite at the cherry.  we where the better side deserved to win just hoping we havent left it behind.

went to cross game waste of time left after halftime like corn couldnt tell you how game wentr as wasnt watching it.  clans a joke.  some posters set them up for a fall how a team beaten by tirnanog in the previous years championship can expect to get near cross is beyond me!!

Being beat by a point and then drawing with them in the league sort of gave us a tiny glimmer of hope, but sorry for annoying people like you for thinking we could get a result (how dare we???) Clans were woeful no denying it, just didn't perform on the day, however there were plenty of smug faces on show and I'm not referring to the cross fans. when Wolfe Tones are playing division 1 football and SFC then maybe you're comments can be taken a bit more seriously, until then keep the cheap shots on hold thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurgan-gael on September 14, 2008, 09:05:40 PM
Quote from: nashville on September 14, 2008, 09:00:39 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on September 14, 2008, 08:04:45 PM
Quote from: nashville on September 14, 2008, 05:16:56 PM
The fact that Gary Quinn kneed Gareth Swift in the head when he was on the ground probably did not help the row starting, Swift is still is hospital being treated for serious concussion.

Gary Quinn  ???

Corn it was McKee for harps and eamon quinn lined...

jesus cant believe the clans cross result wasn at it but surely clans could hav put of a better show..in my recollection i can never can remember such a wide margin in a senior championship game...


Sorry that was my mistake, thought his name was Gary.

O and by the way, I wouldn't expect to hear from Gaapunter for a while. Unless of course now that Clans were hammered he comes out and reveals he is a Killeavey man.

To all the other Clans posters, yes you have gave the Harps a shocking hard time over getting relegated etc, but there is no point in me gloating about Clans getting stuffed, they were stuffed by the best club team in Ireland. Cross have the potential to do that to any team, it just happened to be Clans today. Hopefully Harps can keep it closer and possibly sneak a win if they stay with Cross for 50mins, but realistically Cross have their eyes set on an Ulster club at the very least, All-Ireland club is their real glory.

Although relatively new to this board I haven't been the kindest to the Harps though you can guarantee every Clansman will be hoping for an upset from yourselves in the semi's. After that pasting it would be great if Cross went trophyless (some chance)  :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 14, 2008, 09:18:11 PM
. I can't argue on this occassion lads. Men against boys. Cathal Short ripped us apart. Another year in the duldrums.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on September 14, 2008, 09:21:17 PM
winsam i dont want to rub salt in it but if bumpy and diarmud and macaughey go i think yous could be in for a few years in it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2008, 09:34:20 PM
So who do yous think is the second best team in armagh now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sean og on September 14, 2008, 09:44:04 PM
maybe after 2nites result clans will enter the
intermediate next year to compete with the
tones etc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 15, 2008, 12:52:51 AM
It is totally hiarious the lads that come on here when teams are down to give them a further kicking. But when we are having a conversation about trophies and honours the same lads are very very quiet.

The clans were trounced this evening, and yes rootthemout i agree with you these lads leaving will set the club back a lot. But it will hopefully bring with it a new fresh approach and a more youthful set up. Now this may take a few years to build again but if this is what it takes we must try it.

Pints as an answer to question though i do question myself as to why i am even bothering. The second best team in Armagh this year will be the team that are runners up in the county final. I thought this was pretty obvious.

Oh and Sean Og we wil not be entering any intermediate championship for the foreseable future. You see you are thatcarried away with jealousy that you don't even realise the damage that result will be on North Armagh football. The clans are the best team in Nort Armagh and the cross beat them by 20. What does that say for the rest of the shite that is about?? So i wouldn't be trying to parade on a high horse if i were you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinknHarp on September 15, 2008, 12:56:41 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2008, 09:34:20 PM
So who do yous think is the second best team in armagh now?

Second best would be 1st place losers, nothing to happy about.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on September 15, 2008, 01:06:10 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 15, 2008, 12:52:51 AM

Pints as an answer to question though i do question myself as to why i am even bothering. The second best team in Armagh this year will be the team that are runners up in the county final. I thought this was pretty obvious.



I am by no means here to kick youse when you are down Winsam, as i said any team could have been hammered today the way Cross played, just unlucky for Clans it was their day.

Although I wouldn't agree that the team beat in the county final are the 2nd best team in Armagh, simply the team that have avoided Cross the longest in the championship!! If Harps had drawn Killeavey or Ogs and beat them to get to the final, I wouldn't have thought Harps to be the 2nd best team, to suggest that after being relegated would be ridiculous. In all reality i think the 2nd best team is a fruitless argument. Some would consider the Ogs to be but in last years championship thet beat Div 2 Ballymacnab and squeezed past a now relegated to Div 2 Maghery to reach the county final, hardly 2nd best team criteria. Although as an all-round team and number of county players it would be fair to suggest Ogs are 2nd best. Not really an appropriate gauge to something rightly termed as "1st loser".
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 15, 2008, 02:06:18 AM
Well its a bit like the inter county scene. There is no point in wailing about the dominance of Kerry or Kilkenny, you just have to work at it and develop a team that can beat them. You can't blame Cross for continuing to play well on their 4th manager. Cross played better as a team today than they did against Dromintee, Clans didn't work together in the same way.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 15, 2008, 08:39:07 AM
winsam - a superb motivational coach......... :D
BTW that isnt intended as a dig to the decent posters here, just the ones that bum & blow or talk sh1te

Cross were exceptional last night.
Short's first goal was a perfect example of how Cross punish the slightest mistake. Clans lost the ball on the 40, Oisin & Mc Entee exchanged passes to set up a tap in for Short, totally tearing the Clans defence apart.
Oisin was taken off at half time & Murtagh & Aherne were introduced at different stages in the 2nd half to show just how strong Cross are.
Clans hadnt really any performers. Lavery & a young lad called Henderson (I think) tried hard, after that it was difficult to pick anyone else
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 15, 2008, 08:54:09 AM
When are the semis due to be played?  Who was it was sent off for the Harps yesterday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 15, 2008, 09:21:54 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 15, 2008, 08:54:09 AM
When are the semis due to be played? 

Heard they were on in a fortnight bc, but nothing confirmed yet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 15, 2008, 09:23:35 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2008, 08:04:23 PM
Quote from: mackers on September 14, 2008, 07:55:44 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2008, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: back off the net on September 14, 2008, 04:52:44 PM
why would yous want ciaran to hand them out when every one from the bridge does not like him.do yous have no county men your selfs lol.....???

Never in my life have I heard of a county player (or any player) refusing to give medals to children from a particular club. 
I sincerely hope that it makes Ciaran feel like a big man because if that's what he needs to feel tough then I'm very sad for him. 
Pints, don't know where you are getting your information from but that is a LIE!! It was an u-8 blitz and Ciaran and Fr Cullen took turns in givin out the medals to each of the nine teams that were there as asked by those who organised it. The teams were called in no particular order and just happened that the Bridge were given theirs by Fr Cullen. FACT! Your hatred of all things Cullyhanna knows no bounds. GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!
Of course. 

Thought you werent a cullyhanna man btw?  ::)
Is that the best response you can come up with when you're caught spreading LIES on an internet site? Who I am or where I'm from is immaterial.......you are lying and an apology or a retraction of the statement is in order.........and you're right I don't need anybody to hold my hand.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 15, 2008, 09:34:40 AM
Quote from: full back on September 15, 2008, 09:21:54 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 15, 2008, 08:54:09 AM
When are the semis due to be played? 

Heard they were on in a fortnight bc, but nothing confirmed yet

I think they are due to be played on 5th Oct as Sept 28th has the JFC semis in the Athletic Grounds.  I'd assume a double header the following week if the ground can take it.

Harps player sent of was Conall(Jungle) MCKee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 15, 2008, 09:52:46 AM
Hear there was a bit of a scattering match in the hotel on saturday night between a few Granemore and Ogs lads, with Granemore getting a bit of consolation???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 15, 2008, 10:26:50 AM
Na Clairsigh have nothing to lose now so we shall just get bogged in....
Beaten by 7points at the Hands of XMG last year but hit something like 19 wides, if we can improve on that return who knows?!?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 15, 2008, 10:36:52 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 15, 2008, 12:52:51 AM
It is totally hiarious the lads that come on here when teams are down to give them a further kicking. But when we are having a conversation about trophies and honours the same lads are very very quiet.

Nobody better at it than you. And nobody as interested in talking about ancient history as you. if you're gonna talk shite on here all week you may be prepared to accept the consequences when you're shown up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on September 15, 2008, 10:44:10 AM
Paul Hearty wins the ninth annual MBNA Kick Fada 2008 competition with an impressive 70 metre kick in glorious sunshine in Bray Emmets GAA Club. Hearty overcame a top class field of inter-county Gaelic footballers with second and third place going to Paraic Kelly from Offaly and Fintan Ruddy from Mayo respectively.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on September 15, 2008, 10:48:19 AM
How does a player enter the Kick Fada?  Is it only for county players and do they just turn up on the day?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 15, 2008, 12:34:05 PM
top of division 2 is getting tight, who do cruppen play in their last game and who do tir na nog play in their last 3 games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 15, 2008, 12:36:11 PM
Bennydorana has just confirmed the SFC will be a doubleheader on 5th of October!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 15, 2008, 12:38:48 PM
where? athletic grounds ready?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 15, 2008, 12:40:50 PM
cruppen are at home to wolfe tones

tir na nog have to play clann eireann, keady and granemore i think!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on September 15, 2008, 12:45:10 PM
took in 3 of the 4 games over the weekend. 

The ogs match was entertaining if nothing else. although they were never behind it was close coming in to the last 10 due to a bucket load of missed chances. To give granemore credit they battled to the end. wasnt really impressed with their forwards though. think they scored mostly from frees.

harps mullabawn game was again not a great match but the harps showed great grit to win the game when mullabawn had drew level. i thought the mullabawn forwards were awful though. good luck to the harps in the next round but think cross will win this by at least 6 points

I dont really want to comment on the cross and clans game. it was awful. clans were atrocious and cross were ruthless.

semi finals in the athletic grounds on 5th oct. ogs v killeavy at 2pm and harps v cross at 345pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 15, 2008, 12:45:59 PM
the main contractor in the athletic grounds re-development is to hand over this phase of the work completed to the county board on wednesday.

i would imagine then that the groundsmen will be in flat out in getting the pitch ready for the semi-finals of all grades.

could be some congestion problems with cut off dates for ulster club championships etc. so i would imagine that the lights would be on for some of the games to be played friday and saturday nights.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 15, 2008, 12:49:15 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 15, 2008, 12:52:51 AM
It is totally hiarious the lads that come on here when teams are down to give them a further kicking. But when we are having a conversation about trophies and honours the same lads are very very quiet.


Rich coming from a man who just a couple of days ago got a dig in at Dromintee. You set yourself up for a big fall and that is what happened.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 15, 2008, 12:58:27 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 15, 2008, 09:34:40 AM
Quote from: full back on September 15, 2008, 09:21:54 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 15, 2008, 08:54:09 AM
When are the semis due to be played? 

Heard they were on in a fortnight bc, but nothing confirmed yet

I think they are due to be played on 5th Oct as Sept 28th has the JFC semis in the Athletic Grounds.  I'd assume a double header the following week if the ground can take it.

Harps player sent of was Conall(Jungle) MCKee.

What do you's think are his chances of an appeal?? It was a total cop-out by the ref to send him off after the row, no way he could have singled him out for striking and there were a lot more did a lot worse!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 15, 2008, 01:00:56 PM
Candyman was he number five? If so he probably should have went earlier I thought.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 15, 2008, 01:02:57 PM
He was No 5 yeah, but TBH i didnt think he deserved to go...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 15, 2008, 01:06:18 PM
Maybe not but he seemed lucky to stay on in an incident a few minutes prior. Was it a staright red? Rough scenes lads, bad blood from the league? That rought too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 15, 2008, 01:08:18 PM
I wouldn't say its bad blood and i dont wish to get into a bitching session over who started it but when a Harps man is getting kicked on the ground then another busted enough is enough.... but sure its all healthy!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on September 15, 2008, 01:31:18 PM
Candy it doesn help when ur bench came tearin onto the field.....thats is the reason it turned in2 a mass brawl
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 15, 2008, 01:35:28 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on September 15, 2008, 01:31:18 PM
Candy it doesn help when ur bench came tearin onto the field.....thats is the reason it turned in2 a mass brawl

and it's not like Mullaghbawn ones to fight.   :D

How many rows have u had with other teams this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on September 15, 2008, 01:38:28 PM
oh and the ogs are stickin up for the harps isn't gr8 to see, neighbourly love...

El we are not ones to ever shy away from and row and i would be worried if we did... rows happened but if u had off watched at the end of the game both teams shook hands and there was no probs what appens on the field stays on the field..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 15, 2008, 01:53:21 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on September 15, 2008, 01:38:28 PM
oh and the ogs are stickin up for the harps isn't gr8 to see, neighbourly love...

El we are not ones to ever shy away from and row and i would be worried if we did... rows happened but if u had off watched at the end of the game both teams shook hands and there was no probs what appens on the field stays on the field..

It's the best way to keep it, a bit of a row sometimes is good for the team morale anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 15, 2008, 02:06:15 PM
Minor draw

Pearse Og v Armagh Harps
Mullabawn v Carrickcruppin
Granemore v Silverbridge
Crossmaglen v Corrinshigo

Quarter final games to be played on Saturday 27th September at 2.00pm are

Crossmaglen or Corrinshigo v Maghery
Pearse Og or Armagh Harps v Mullabawn or Carrickcruppin
St.Peters v St.Brigids
Granemore or Silverbridge v St.Patricks
Home venue first named
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 15, 2008, 02:14:19 PM
No corn i never set myself up for a big fall i gave my opinion on the game and the way i thought it would pan out before hand. I have simply no problem after the game stated that it was a complete gutless performance where we witnessed men against boys.

I also think you will find any digs i have taken at Dromintee are as a response to digs taken at Clan na Gael. I never take pride in other people misfortune. The harps went down this year and i never once said words like it was good to see. Simply because it doesn't really concern me. If i make any jibes towrds any club it has been provoked.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 15, 2008, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 15, 2008, 02:14:19 PM
I also think you will find any digs i have taken at Dromintee are as a response to digs taken at Clan na Gael. I never take pride in other people misfortune.

Misfortune had nothing to do with it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 15, 2008, 03:29:26 PM
any team that gets relegated has a lot to do with misfortune. Take the harps this year, They were relagted by 1 point i think in the end. They should have had a point in a game against Culloville as some of the lads were saying. I am sure that they lost a few very close game also that with a bit of luck they would have won. So sometimes the line between going down and staying up in decided on misfortune.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 15, 2008, 03:41:28 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 15, 2008, 02:14:19 PM
No corn i never set myself up for a big fall i gave my opinion on the game and the way i thought it would pan out before hand. I have simply no problem after the game stated that it was a complete gutless performance where we witnessed men against boys.

I also think you will find any digs i have taken at Dromintee are as a response to digs taken at Clan na Gael. I never take pride in other people misfortune. The harps went down this year and i never once said words like it was good to see. Simply because it doesn't really concern me. If i make any jibes towrds any club it has been provoked.

Get off your high horse. You had a go at Dromintee because I had the nerve to suggest that in recent years on what I had witnessed Cullyhanna seemed as good as Clans.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on September 15, 2008, 03:44:44 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 15, 2008, 03:29:26 PM
So sometimes the line between going down and staying up in decided on misfortune.

And whats the line between 1 point and 20 points in a match?  Jesus I am lucky I only get to see a couple of matches in Armagh every year.  But i hear enough reports about it that show Cross are doing " A Kilkenny".  Being on this thread last week reading alot of the comments and jesus "san" you can slabber.  Think its better off if you say nothing!

All I can say is thank God I was in Monaghan yesterday watching competitive football at least.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 15, 2008, 03:49:13 PM
Misfortune had fcuk all to do with last night.
winsam was mouthing flat out all week about pride in the jersey, we will give them a game etc etc etc
Made a complete cnut of yourself

Let illdecide speak on behalf of clans men because it is obvious you havent a clue :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 15, 2008, 04:38:38 PM
Any word of a report from Gaapunter?  Should be worth reading.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on September 15, 2008, 04:45:51 PM
hes gone very quiet, then again if we were beaten by 20 points i'd lie low too  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 15, 2008, 05:22:37 PM
Sometimes i wonder if some of you folks on on the same planet or more to the point what you are reading.

No one said last night was anything to do with misfortune >:( I was making a general point. I will say it again we were totally outclassed in every department. It was a complete footballing lesson. I will also go as far as to say that there are 6 or 7 second division teams that would have put up a better display than the clans. If the game was played tommorrow again the result would be the same. How much clearer can i put this.

Full back you seem to be very found of i'll decide, i wonder the reasons behind this. i am a clans man full back and have been all my life as have my family and always will be. If the clans were in division four and were playing the cross i would give the clans a chance. It is called believing in your team. Yes last week i was saying that the clans would put it up to cross because i genuinely thought they would. It was nothing to do with slabbering or being arrogant. I made the foolish mistake of thinking the cross were on the decline and obviously i thought we were better than we were. But this doesn't mean the lads hadn't got pride in their jersey. I know a lot of them lads very well that played yesterday and believe you me it will hurt them badly as it will hurt many in the club. Yesterday was a major blow for the clans who are struggling on many levels but in terms of finance and other issues. Our football team is all that matters to me so i will always have pride in them. If they were playing cross in the morn i would still give them a slight chance because i am a clans man. If all supporters went to matches thinking their team was always going to get beat what would be the point. Maybe this sums up why no one can beat the cross because a lot of people have lost belief in their own clubs and are focusing on the fear factor that is cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 15, 2008, 05:52:42 PM
So is having pride in your club mean slagging other teams because someone from another club believed Cullyhanna were better than Clans?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 15, 2008, 07:26:41 PM
You clearly have issues of letting things go corn!!! If you feel cullyhanna are better than clans then fair enough but don't expect me to agree with you (even after yesterday) I was saying that you couldn't judge a team on challenge games, that was the point i was making in response to  back of the net post.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 15, 2008, 08:54:08 PM
I think the clans are shit and dromintee are class

(my 2000th post!)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on September 15, 2008, 09:20:15 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on September 15, 2008, 08:54:08 PM
(my 2000th post!)

wel done nail!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 15, 2008, 10:14:53 PM
killeavy will beat the ogs and cross will stuff the harps to leave a killeavy and cross final and i think it could be close with cross winning by a few points.CLANS ARE SHIT lol lol lol.the best footballers come from south armagh and it is hurting all the city folk.we would have no county team with out south armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ExiledGael on September 15, 2008, 10:26:38 PM
Interesting analysis.
Also an intreresting take on Alan Partridge's catchphrase. Are you telling the net to back off?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: dundrumite on September 15, 2008, 10:40:29 PM
Quote from: AFS on September 15, 2008, 01:52:46 AM
The Cross Clans result is an extremely damaging one for Armagh football. Its not their fault, but this continued dominance by Cross is beginning to have a serious effect on other clubs in the county.

We have clubs like Cullyhanna and Culloville, who are both well fit for the senior championship, playing intermediate football because they want to play in a competition that they've actually got a chance of winning. Their respective performances against Cross in the last few weeks have shown that Dromintee and Clans, two of the top three challengers to Cross in the county over the last decade, are in real decline and show no signs of being able to challenge Cross for the foreseeable future. Only Ogs can stop them now but I'd say everyone, even Ogs themselves would admit that this is unlikely.

Its really disappointing to see Clans with their history reduced to their current state. Considering this history and the club's size Clans should be, as they have done throughout the years, producing 3 or 4 players for the county team and be well fit to give Cross a lash. What affect is that scoreline going to have on younger players about their club? The more pragmatic ones might keep at it, realising that Cross are an exceptional team and that their dominance will end at some point, but its much more likely that a lot of young fellas will look at it, and the disappointment and frustration that it'll have no doubt caused about their club, and think 'why the f**k would I want to be part of that'.

Armagh football desperately needs a serious challenger to break Cross' frustrating and demoralising monopoly. Hopefully it'll emerge in the next 3 or 4 years from a reborn Clans or an Ogs team that pushes onto the next level or even from a club that comes from out of the blue, but I'll not be holding my breath.



As a Down man with no real knowledge of Armagh football, im wondering are Cullyhanna and Culloville division 1 teams? How does the championship grading work in Armagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on September 15, 2008, 11:26:52 PM
Cullyhanna Culloville both in division one but can only qualify to senior championship by winning Intermediate championship, which is a very competitive competition with 5 or 6 teams believeing they have a realistic chance of success in any given year.
Taking Cross out of the equation these 5 or 6 teams would be on a par with most clubs in senior championship.

Cross's domination has not and will not deter any club from participating in the senior championship, as history will probably prove them to be the greatest club side ever.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 16, 2008, 12:01:00 AM
Dougal Maguire
QuoteBefore the Blitz started one of the Cullyhanna mentors asked the Bridge U8 Manager if he had any problem with McKeever giving out the medals given the 'history' between Silverbridge and Cullyhanna. The Bridge guy said he had no difficulty with that. He was therefore shocked when McKeever turned his back to talk to some other guy when Silverbridge kids came up for their medals, then turned round again when the Bridge had got theirs to continue to make the presentation to the Culloville kids. This is Under 8's we're talking about here. The man's hatred knows no bounds
Thank you.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 16, 2008, 12:45:22 AM
Definetly right lads the clans are shite. But they are still the best team in North Armagh and the second best decorated team in the county. Not bad for being shite. It will be a while before any clubs with the exception of the harps because they are closest overtakes them. Every club goes through bad years lads the clans are no different. We will have to deal with this and get on with it. It has happened the clans before and it will happen again.  :o . It will also happen every club in our county and every county across Ireland.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stevie Nicks on September 16, 2008, 08:45:04 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 15, 2008, 11:02:11 PM
Before the Blitz started one of the Cullyhanna mentors asked the Bridge U8 Manager if he had any problem with McKeever giving out the medals given the 'history' between Silverbridge and Cullyhanna. The Bridge guy said he had no difficulty with that. He was therefore shocked when McKeever turned his back to talk to some other guy when Silverbridge kids came up for their medals, then turned round again when the Bridge had got theirs to continue to make the presentation to the Culloville kids. This is Under 8's we're talking about here. The man's hatred knows no bounds


Did McKeever give medals out to all other clubs except the bridge or was Fr Cullen involved as a previous poster has stated that they were taking turns to give out medals?? If Ciaran gave out all other clubs medals you do have a point however if Fr Cullen was in fact giving out medals give it a rest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 16, 2008, 09:18:52 AM
The Intermediate Championship is fierce competitive and if you put every team from the SFC (Bar Cross & Dromintee) into it they would find it very difficult to win it IMO and I would include ourselves, Ogs and Clans in that grouping.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 16, 2008, 09:59:56 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 15, 2008, 11:02:11 PM
Before the Blitz started one of the Cullyhanna mentors asked the Bridge U8 Manager if he had any problem with McKeever giving out the medals given the 'history' between Silverbridge and Cullyhanna. The Bridge guy said he had no difficulty with that. He was therefore shocked when McKeever turned his back to talk to some other guy when Silverbridge kids came up for their medals, then turned round again when the Bridge had got theirs to continue to make the presentation to the Culloville kids. This is Under 8's we're talking about here. The man's hatred knows no bounds

Quote from: mackers on September 14, 2008, 07:55:44 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2008, 05:10:17 PM
Quote from: back off the net on September 14, 2008, 04:52:44 PM
why would yous want ciaran to hand them out when every one from the bridge does not like him.do yous have no county men your selfs lol.....???

Dougal you made a good start there when you said that the Bridge mentors were approached before the blitz to let them know that Ciaran would be handing out some of the medals (something that was necessary seeing there are d1cks like you and pints floating about that would probably have caused a scene) and in fairness to the mentor he said he had no problem.  I am telling you, I was standing no more than three metres from where the medals were being given out and Ciaran and Fr Cullen took turns in giving the medals out to the NINE teams that were present, when it came to the Bridge's turn it was FR Cullen's turn (Fr Cullen gave the Cullyhanna children their medals are you saying that Ciaran refused to give them theirs????). To make it perfectly clear one of them gave out medals to four teams and the other gave out medals to five teams.
Don't fall into pints' problem of believing rumours going round the Bridge that are simply untrue and vicious.
You both are turning a perfectly innocent situation into LIES to suit your own agenda.
You can withdraw your post along with pints ASAP.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 16, 2008, 10:04:04 AM
Right lads i wasn't hiding just was off yesterday so here goes. (f**k where do i start) I'm sure a good lot of you guys were at the match so you don't need me to tell you how crop we were and how good Cross were, we really believed we had a chance against Cross the training 2 weeks prior to the game was something else the lads were flying and the hitting and intensity was first class and when you have that level of training and players like Bumpy and Marsden you have to believe you have a chance.

It all went wrong when the ref threw the ball in...lol you know what i mean, seriously though that was the best I've seen Cross play in 10 years and you could say we were hopeless but thats the way Cross made us. We came out second best all over the field from 1 -15 and can't have any complaints, Cross's performance really impressed me and i didn't think they were still capable of that but f**king God help the rest of us if they play like that every time in the championship. I really believe if we had played our best on sunday we would still have lost by a good few points so thats it.

On another front we (and I'm sure there are quite a few guys here gloating) have had a number of retirements after the game and we just hope that in 2-3 years that some of the younger lads can step up to the plate and deliever where some of the older guys left off (not talking about Sundays game there).[Edited by Mod3]
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 16, 2008, 10:06:23 AM
I know it made no difference at all on Sunday, but heard at the game from a Lurgan man there was a bit of trouble in the ranks in Clans last week.
Any truth?
Who retired?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 16, 2008, 10:11:06 AM
Quote from: full back on September 16, 2008, 10:06:23 AM
I know it made no difference at all on Sunday, but heard at the game from a Lurgan man there was a bit of trouble in the ranks in Clans last week.
Any truth?
Who retired?

It was going around the ground that there were 12 guys left the panel the night b4 the game. 2 guys quit, 1 because he felt he should have started and was disapointed but we are better of without players like that and the other guy wouldn't get a game with our B team...dunno where the other 10 came from
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 16, 2008, 10:30:55 AM
I was in the middle of typing a response which backed up what illdecide says when the littlest BC decide to turn the machine off(typical annoying frigger :P).  I think perhaps people, and that includes me, are being too hard on the Clans.  The simple fact is that Cross are capable of doing that to teams.  We maybe haven't done it as much as we could have but it has always been there.  I don't know if it is a true reflection in the gulf between the teams, but the Championship is the gauge and unfortunately for the Clans they ave been made out to be  poor team.

This is only the second competitive game that Cross have had all year with their full squad available(and it is still not full with a few to come back from injury).  Hopefully as the county palyers continue to gel in with the rest of the squad the momentum will pick up and they can play like this again against the Harps.

Illdecide, I hope the retirees are treated with the respect that anyone who has put effort in deserves and that the ship doesn't sink altogether.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 16, 2008, 10:34:41 AM
Full back you should know better than to ask such questions. What happens in ones club, especially sensitive issues must stay in the club. I think all clubs should be this way. I don't mean that in a cheeky way either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 16, 2008, 10:42:33 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 16, 2008, 10:34:41 AM
Full back you should know better than to ask such questions. What happens in ones club, especially sensitive issues must stay in the club. I think all clubs should be this way. I don't mean that in a cheeky way either.

Would you ever fcuk away off
A lurgan man mentioned it to me on Sunday (not from Clans) & I decided to wait to ask illdecide. I wouldnt even mention it to you ye clampet.
Ye done a good job of keeping it in the club BTW :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 16, 2008, 10:51:14 AM
Look lads it's no big secret everyone knows who the old guys on the team are so who else would you expect to retire not a lad at 25. I hope as BC says the guys who have stepped down get the respect they deserve (although i doubt it)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 16, 2008, 11:04:01 AM
The SFC will probably decrease in numbers in the coming years, the likes of Clann Eireann & Newtown have no mission in the SFC.  Hope it doesn't go the way of the Ladies SFC that currently has Clann Eireann & Cross as it's sole competitors - but has a very competitive Intermediate championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on September 16, 2008, 02:03:04 PM
i take it there's noone on this board that thinks cross are not going to win the championship? personally i think that if the ogs can get over killeavy there in with a hell of a chance. out of the teams left in it the ogs would be the only team capable of beating them on their day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 16, 2008, 02:05:09 PM
To be honest i don't think the lads that are leaving will give a shite about whether or not they are respected a long as they know themselves that they served their club with dignity and put in a lot of effort over the years then that would be enough for me.

Full back you are a complete village idiot, each time someone posts a reply to you, a response arrives telling people to f-cuk off. What is that all about. very mature and adult like i must say. You then have the guts to criticise GAApunter when he does such things.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 16, 2008, 02:08:27 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 16, 2008, 02:05:09 PM
Full back you are a complete village idiot,

:D :D
Oh, the irony
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 16, 2008, 02:35:58 PM
Quote from: bubbles on September 16, 2008, 02:03:04 PM
i take it there's noone on this board that thinks cross are not going to win the championship? personally i think that if the ogs can get over killeavy there in with a hell of a chance. out of the teams left in it the ogs would be the only team capable of beating them on their day.

I've been saying for a while they are a MF short of beating Cross, but their MF is so abysmal I dont think they'd have a chance against Cross.  Because it's so bad they have to move Gregory Loughran there (and Ronan Clarke for a while against Granemore) thereby diminishing their forward line further, and bar those two and Shorty Clarke it's an ordinary enough forward line.  After watching them v Granemore I think Killeavey will take them (at a tasty price I'd imagine as well).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on September 16, 2008, 02:50:45 PM
granted the ogs midfield was abysmal and has always been the weak link. rumour has it andy mallon is back for the killeavy game which would be a huge boost for them and will tighten up an already quality defensive unit that will not give a huge amount of scores away. this could free up young duffy to go to the forward line and from what i have seen of him he is a good player. the ogs still won that game against granemore even with limited possession in the middle. from what i have seen this year and i may stand corrected but the killeavy midfield pairing isnt that hot either. neither is cross's for that matter. i would say out of the teams left the harps would have the strongest midfield but their forward line isnt up to much and will not trouble the cross defence
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 16, 2008, 03:28:31 PM
Yer man Anto? Duffy is a great wee player & prospect, but very young.  I cant recall what Killeavey's MF is like (I think Stevie played there v Clann Eireann, but couldn't see it v Ogs), but they are the form team at the minute and with McDonnell and Stanfield  they could do serious damage; I'd say Stevie will play CHF and be on JP, if JP manages to stay on the field he'll have his hands full.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 16, 2008, 03:29:52 PM
The og's against killevay wil be a tight enough game but i would fancy the og's to just come hrough by a point or two. Killeavy will be difficult enough though because they are physically strong and hard hitting so the og's will find it difficult to win the breaks around the middle.

Cross i think will win by about 4 or 5. The harps wil stays with them for about the first 45 and then the cross wil get the customary goal and kill the game off. The Harps will possibly dominate the middle but the cross will be more productive with the ball that they get. The Cross will simply crowd the middle out and turn it to their advantage. The thing about cross is that they always have three or four players in support. I was looking at our lads on sunday and when they got the ball they were isolated and the cross just crowded them out like little boys. In contrast to that Cross were moving forward in twos and threes and always had an easy option. This will be tough to beat, but they are not unbeatable.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 16, 2008, 04:02:09 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 16, 2008, 10:04:04 AM
Right lads i wasn't hiding just was off yesterday so here goes. (f**k where do i start) I'm sure a good lot of you guys were at the match so you don't need me to tell you how crop we were and how good Cross were, we really believed we had a chance against Cross the training 2 weeks prior to the game was something else the lads were flying and the hitting and intensity was first class and when you have that level of training and players like Bumpy and Marsden you have to believe you have a chance.

It all went wrong when the ref threw the ball in...lol you know what i mean, seriously though that was the best I've seen Cross play in 10 years and you could say we were hopeless but thats the way Cross made us. We came out second best all over the field from 1 -15 and can't have any complaints, Cross's performance really impressed me and i didn't think they were still capable of that but f**king God help the rest of us if they play like that every time in the championship. I really believe if we had played our best on sunday we would still have lost by a good few points so thats it.

On another front we (and I'm sure there are quite a few guys here gloating) have had a number of retirements after the game and we just hope that in 2-3 years that some of the younger lads can step up to the plate and deliever where some of the older guys left off (not talking about Sundays game there). I certainly won't be responding to some comments about the clans here as i haven't the time for that crop and there is only one hoor on this board gets up my nose and he is one w**ker of a man (well i think he's a man, i believe he has man boobs) I think you all know who I'm talking about. So if he could take a box of "f**k off tablets" then I'd be happier...

Wouldn't take any pleasure in retirements or glaot. My anti-Win comments were in response to his antcis the last few weeks were I felt he has been a bit "giddy". It was a one off for Clans but they are a rich club in tradition and will push on and get back on their feet. The main thing is too keep Mardesn, O'Hagan, Oldham involved in the club one way or another.


Killeavy are very confident at the minute and I have seen them play about six times this year and they have got better each time. Superb half-back in Reel. Good midfielder in Stanfield (pity he is a mouth piece). O'Hare in the forward line is another mouth but a great player on his day and Toner is a great target man. nyone thining the Ogs will walk this are in for a shock. - They also have Stevie of course.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on September 16, 2008, 09:11:21 PM
Thank you for withdrawing this allegation Dougal. I think that Mackers has already confirmed that Ciaran and Fr Cullen (Our club Honoury Vice President) were jointly presenting the medals at the Blitz. In total 197 children from nine teams took part in the competition which was superbly organise by our under 8 mangement and the youth committee. W e congratulate Silverbidge on their performance at the  tournament and look forawrd to going back up to the bridge to take in part in some of their tournaments perhaps later on in the year.

With regard to the overall situation between the two clubs i feel that it is time that supporters from both sides should stop fuelling stupid rumours and carrying tales between both clubs and making allegations on public forums such as GAABOARD.COM without seeking out proper internal explanations first of all. I know one Silverbridge poster in particular who seems to want to drag this stupid feud on and on and I am not talking about you Dougal.

i think that there is a willingness on both committees and indeed on most senior team players to move on . After all they are the people with most influence at clubs as role models for younger members and as club decision makers. I hope they succeed in improving relations in the not too distant future.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 16, 2008, 09:33:36 PM
Mackers, I wont be withdrawing anything, I've heard three versions of events from cullyhanna people now,
1.  The 'Bridge mentors wouldnt allow McKeever to give the medals to the kids
2.  McKeever and Fr Cullen share the responsibility of giving out medals
3.  McKeever only presented medals to one team, Fr Cullen done the rest.

The version of events I've heard from the bridge is the only one that has remained consistent.  You yourself have said that the 'Bridge were asked if they minded McKeever giving the medals out - why would they be asked if the plan wasn't for McKeever to give those medals to the 'bridge? 
Btw your allegations of lies is quite hilarious coming from the man who has claimed all along not to be a cullyhanna man and also coming from a man who claimed there were mysterious men in suits fighting at the game in cross which we all know was/is lies.
You're a typical Cullyhanna man, a sneaky coward.


Dougal
QuoteIn any case, regardless of what actually happened, the fact that there is still such ill feeling between Cullyhanna and Silverbridge folk - a situation which I understand does not prevail among many of their team mentors - its time everyone imvolved in the of breakdown of relations took a step back, took a deep breath, and asked themselves the question ' Is this what those guys who met in Hayes Hotel in 1888 set out to create?'
I agree with what you're saying Dougal but out of interest would you tell me how Silverbridge have contributed to the ill feeling?
It's a genuine question btw because I accept my view is obviously biased.

pats mc
QuoteWith regard to the overall situation between the two clubs i feel that it is time that supporters from both sides should stop fuelling stupid rumours and carrying tales between both clubs and making allegations on public forums such as GAABOARD.COM without seeking out proper internal explanations first of all. I know one Silverbridge poster in particular who seems to want to drag this stupid feud on and on and I am not talking about you Dougal.

i think that there is a willingness on both committees and indeed on most senior team players to move on . After all they are the people with most influence at clubs as role models for younger members and as club decision makers. I hope they succeed in improving relations in the not too distant future.
:D
That's rich. 

The only thing that I'm grateful for is that there are cooler and more reasonable heads than mine in the 'bridge and they do us proud I hope the youngsters follow their example.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 16, 2008, 10:13:26 PM
is anyone else thinking we should start a new armagh club football & hurling thread?????

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on September 16, 2008, 10:25:53 PM
Correct - it is going to have to come to that. I am so fed up reading about some incident that occurred between the 'bridge and Cullyhanna. Jesus, it has been done to death and is of very little interest to most of the readers on this thread. Can you guys not find some closure on this one. Please?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on September 16, 2008, 10:32:24 PM
Pints. Will you please move on from this stupid line of arguement. Everyone at this stage knows how much you love cullyhanna and in particular Ciaran and Stephen.

Get over it. I take it (a) that you were not in Cullyhanna on saturday and as you admit yourself you are going on second hand information again(b) that you are quite sure that everyone in Cullyhanna is a 'sneaky coward'.

If you have any more issues please pm me and I will meet you or contact you to discuss these issues. Please stop using this board to peddle your nonsense.From what I can see on this board by the lack of response to your prompts Pople from both Cullyhanna and the bridge and other posters from clubs through out the county are sick listening to it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 16, 2008, 10:52:27 PM
I appreciate that other posters are tired of this but I can't let that sort of personalised attack pass. I was at the blitz I saw everything..............Pints is going on hearsay and peddling lies.
The "plan" wasn't for Ciaran to ignore the Bridge, the plan as I have CONSISENTLY said was for him and Fr Cullen to share the job and as such there was a 50-50 chance that the Bridge would receive the medals from Ciaran and thankfully they didn't have Pints' small minded approach.
There are those within both clubs that are trying to build bridges and there are those (like Pints') that would rather keep the hatefest going.
Pints, do you not see the irony of you calling me a "sneaky coward" from behind a keybaord????
Also, for a man that has complained previously about posters stalking you, it's a bit freaky that you can refer to Throwball as a golfing buddy of mine, when the only reference to golf between us was a throwaway remark on a post SEVEN months ago.
I wasn't expecting a retraction of your statement but I thought "Good Pints" might have done it with "Bad Pints" telling him  off at a later stage. ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 16, 2008, 11:06:50 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on September 16, 2008, 10:32:24 PM
Pints. Will you please move on from this stupid line of arguement. Everyone at this stage knows how much you love cullyhanna and in particular Ciaran and Stephen.

Get over it. I take it (a) that you were not in Cullyhanna on saturday and as you admit yourself you are going on second hand information again(b) that you are quite sure that everyone in Cullyhanna is a 'sneaky coward'.

If you have any more issues please pm me and I will meet you or contact you to discuss these issues. Please stop using this board to peddle your nonsense.From what I can see on this board by the lack of response to your prompts Pople from both Cullyhanna and the bridge and other posters from clubs through out the county are sick listening to it.
So I can be the 4th bridge man in two years to end up in hospital with head injures inflicted by one of you lot?

Mackers, are you a cullyhanna man now?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 16, 2008, 11:07:17 PM
f**ksake

giv it a rest..

start a new thread in the local section and let us discuss footballing issues instead of hatred between the bridge & Cullyhana.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 16, 2008, 11:14:08 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 16, 2008, 11:06:50 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on September 16, 2008, 10:32:24 PM
Pints. Will you please move on from this stupid line of arguement. Everyone at this stage knows how much you love cullyhanna and in particular Ciaran and Stephen.

Get over it. I take it (a) that you were not in Cullyhanna on saturday and as you admit yourself you are going on second hand information again(b) that you are quite sure that everyone in Cullyhanna is a 'sneaky coward'.

If you have any more issues please pm me and I will meet you or contact you to discuss these issues. Please stop using this board to peddle your nonsense.From what I can see on this board by the lack of response to your prompts Pople from both Cullyhanna and the bridge and other posters from clubs through out the county are sick listening to it.
So I can be the 4th bridge man in two years to end up in hospital with head injures inflicted by one of you lot?

Mackers, are you a cullyhanna man now?


Define Cullyhanna Man for me............is where you live or where you're from?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 16, 2008, 11:15:53 PM
I take that as a yes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 16, 2008, 11:35:18 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 16, 2008, 11:15:53 PM
I take that as a yes.
What sort of horsesh1t answer is that...............the hint's in the question.............you live overseas, don't know/care where it is............but let's say it's London.........are you a Cockney?
If I was born and bred in Cullyhanna and attended all the club games then I would be more than happy to call myself a Cullyhanna man like TAM and pats-mc, but I woudn't call myself a Cullyhanna man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 16, 2008, 11:39:54 PM
Look mackers it doesn't really matter, I know all I need to know about you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 16, 2008, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 16, 2008, 11:39:54 PM
Look mackers it doesn't really matter, I know all I need to know about you.
Bit weird................whatever.......... :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on September 16, 2008, 11:54:10 PM
A possible Intermediate final in next few weeks between you lot could be worth a visit!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 17, 2008, 09:19:52 AM
What's the draw for IFC semis?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 17, 2008, 09:30:09 AM
INTERMEDIATE
Saturday 20 September
Intermediate Football Championship Quarter-Final Replay (4.00)
Culloville v Wolfe Tone at Ballyhegan
Extra time, if required

Saturday 27 September
Intermediate Football Championship Semi-Final (4.00)
St Patrick's v Sarsfields at Pearse Og Park

Saturday 4 October
Intermediate Football Championship Semi-Final (4.00)
Silverbridge v Culloville/Wolfe Tones at Cullyhanna or Pearse Og Park
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 17, 2008, 10:41:31 AM
Lads we don't need a new thread started we just need 1 guy to f**king wise up and if he can't wise up he should f**k off somewhere else and stop annoying people. We all know who this moan is who never has anything positive or constructive to say...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on September 17, 2008, 11:00:55 AM

Agreed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 17, 2008, 11:09:07 AM
Has anyone got access to the most up to date tables available, please & Thankyou?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 17, 2008, 11:12:08 AM
ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE TABLES AT SUNDAY 14th September 2008

ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 17 15 2 0 32
Pearse Og 18 10 4 4 24
St Patrick's 18 9 1 8 19
Culloville 17 8 1 8 17
Killeavey 17 8 1 8 17
Mullaghbawn 18 7 2 9 16
Clan na Gael 17 6 3 8 15
Dromintee 18 7 1 10 15
Harps 17 4 3 10 11
Maghery 17 3 2 12 8

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 20 15 1 4 31
Carrickcruppen 21 14 1 6 29
Tir na nÓg 19 13 0 6 26
St Michael's 21 10 1 10 21
Granemore 19 10 0 9 20
Clann Eireann 19 9 1 9 19
Silverbridge 19 9 1 9 19
Ballymacnab 20 8 1 11 17
Wolfe Tone 18 8 0 10 16
Whitecross 19 8 0 11 16
Keady 15 4 1 10 9
An Port Mor 20 3 1 16 7

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Madden 18 14 3 1 31
Collegeland 20 12 2 6 26
St Paul's 19 12 1 6 25
Ballyhegan 18 12 0 6 24
Belleek 20 10 3 7 23
Annaghmore 20 10 0 10 20
St Peter's 19 8 3 8 19
Lissummon 21 7 3 11 17
Clonmore 19 5 3 11 13
Tullysaran 19 5 3 11 13
Crossmaglen II 17 3 3 11 9
Grange 20 4 2 14 10

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 17 16 1 0 33
Middletown 17 12 3 2 27
Eire Og 18 12 1 5 25
Derrynoose 16 11 0 5 22
Forkhill 18 10 1 7 21
Clady 16 7 2 7 16
O'Hanlon's 17 7 0 10 14
Corrinshego 16 4 2 10 10
Mullaghbrack 17 4 2 11 10
Dorsey Emmett's 19 4 0 15 8
Phelim Brady's 19 2 0 17 4



Good chance of going up goats
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 17, 2008, 11:17:13 AM
That was quick! Cheers!

Yeah, they've been playing very well this last few months, after a slow start. Not sure going up will do many favours for us though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 17, 2008, 12:29:22 PM
Anyone got the hurling league table for the Armagh league?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 17, 2008, 05:09:37 PM
has the penny finally dropped?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 17, 2008, 09:28:46 PM
Quote from: back off the net on September 15, 2008, 10:14:53 PM
killeavy will beat the ogs and cross will stuff the harps to leave a killeavy and cross final and i think it could be close with cross winning by a few points.CLANS ARE SHIT lol lol lol.the best footballers come from south armagh and it is hurting all the city folk.we would have no county team with out south armagh

First post, just like to point out that I could that there's at least 7 non south Armagh players on the county panel... of the those who remain 5 are from Cross!! May not be fully correct depending on the starting team.. so I wouldn't say it's that South Armagh are producing the best players I would say it's Crossmaglen who are producing the best players. Other teams in South Armagh are happy to let Crossmaglen make them look good (with the exception of Dromintee who have tried their hardest to win a county title) and I think that's pretty sad. I can remember the early nineties when Ulster teams were winning All irelands and I was proud of them but it wasn't the same because I wanted us to win one

In '95 Ogs won an u16 county championship against Laochra O'Neills and I can remember a silly argument after the game when one of their players said 'but yeah, south armagh teams have won the last 4'. Despite the fact that they had been beat!! It still happens today and I think south Armagh teams (Cross, Dromintee and mullabawn excluded) need to get their heads out of their ass and realise their own clubs are doin f*** all

I take the person who posted the above comment is from Killeavy and is probably just lookingf to wind people up before the game and I accept that but to say city folk are hurting when Pearse Og alone have far more county players is ridiculous. Crossmaglen are hurting city folk... not South Armagh!! :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 17, 2008, 10:45:39 PM
QuoteI think south Armagh teams (Cross, Dromintee and mullabawn excluded) need to get their heads out of their ass and realise their own clubs are doin f*** all
You were doing well until you made that statement.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on September 17, 2008, 10:48:56 PM
Quote from: ogshead on September 17, 2008, 09:28:46 PM
Quote from: back off the net on September 15, 2008, 10:14:53 PM
killeavy will beat the ogs and cross will stuff the harps to leave a killeavy and cross final and i think it could be close with cross winning by a few points.CLANS ARE SHIT lol lol lol.the best footballers come from south armagh and it is hurting all the city folk.we would have no county team with out south armagh

First post, just like to point out that I could that there's at least 7 non south Armagh players on the county panel... of the those who remain 5 are from Cross!! May not be fully correct depending on the starting team.. so I wouldn't say it's that South Armagh are producing the best players I would say it's Crossmaglen who are producing the best players. Other teams in South Armagh are happy to let Crossmaglen make them look good (with the exception of Dromintee who have tried their hardest to win a county title) and I think that's pretty sad. I can remember the early nineties when Ulster teams were winning All irelands and I was proud of them but it wasn't the same because I wanted us to win one

In '95 Ogs won an u16 county championship against Laochra O'Neills and I can remember a silly argument after the game when one of their players said 'but yeah, south armagh teams have won the last 4'. Despite the fact that they had been beat!! It still happens today and I think south Armagh teams (Cross, Dromintee and mullabawn excluded) need to get their heads out of their ass and realise their own clubs are doin f*** all

I take the person who posted the above comment is from Killeavy and is probably just lookingf to wind people up before the game and I accept that but to say city folk are hurting when Pearse Og alone have far more county players is ridiculous. Crossmaglen are hurting city folk... not South Armagh!! :P

And hopefully last.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 18, 2008, 11:02:15 AM
I would say og's head has raised some valid points in that post. He has put a sligtly different slant on the north, south and mid debate. Once again pints you have just made a totally vague post without telling the lad what you find wrong with the quote you have selected. Would it not be better to say what you think it wrong with the statement rather than just poke fun at it. It makes it easier to debate if one has an opinion.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on September 18, 2008, 11:16:42 AM

Ogs head is referring exclusively to senior football. Pints, as with most bridge men, consider senior football to be only one small part of the criteria to judge the strength of their club on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 18, 2008, 12:53:46 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 17, 2008, 05:09:37 PM
has the penny finally dropped?

Regarding what Win?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on September 18, 2008, 01:36:09 PM
Any North, Mid South debate is nonsense.

To suggest S. Armagh clubs or any club throughout the county gives them an easy ride dosent make sense. What more can Lissummon, Belleeks, St. Pats etc. do?? What do you mean by suggesting they are doinf fcuk all compared to any other club in the county??
You are talking about competeing against possibly the most succesful club side in history.

The only answer is for teams where possible to compete and obtain success on a consistent basis. Not all clubs can do this ue to small populations, however in my opinion this is the only solution.

Armagh is no different to any other county in that realistiaclly there are only 3 or 4 serious challengers for senior honours each season.
The difference is that Cross have such an abundance of talent at present that this is going to be difficult to achieve.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 18, 2008, 05:30:40 PM
regarding the whole cullyhann bridge argument ending corn and i hope this doesn't trigger it of again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 18, 2008, 07:48:18 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 18, 2008, 11:02:15 AM
I would say og's head has raised some valid points in that post. He has put a sligtly different slant on the north, south and mid debate. Once again pints you have just made a totally vague post without telling the lad what you find wrong with the quote you have selected. Would it not be better to say what you think it wrong with the statement rather than just poke fun at it. It makes it easier to debate if one has an opinion.
Do you seriously need for me to spell out what is wrong with the statement
"It still happens today and I think south Armagh teams (Cross, Dromintee and mullabawn excluded) need to get their heads out of their ass and realise their own clubs are doin f*** all"

Do you think that's a sensible statement? What does he think every club in the county is doing?

I agree with him on the south armagh v North/Mid armagh thing, pure stupid if you ask me.  The only club I care about in South Armagh is the 'Bridge and I'd actually rather see a club like Maghery (who the 'bridge would have a good relationship with) doing well than other south armagh clubs - that's no reflection on them.

The GAA
Quote
Ogs head is referring exclusively to senior football. Pints, as with most bridge men, consider senior football to be only one small part of the criteria to judge the strength of their club on.
I'm not really sure what you mean by this statement.  I don't speak for anyone only myself but you're right I don't think the success of a club's senior team is everything within a club - it'd be great of course but it's not everything.
Are clubs at the bottom of division 4 any better or worse than Cross, ogs, Harps, Dromintee etc?   

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 18, 2008, 08:05:57 PM
It seems that Ogshead's first (and only) ever wind-up post has been a success
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 18, 2008, 08:30:46 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 18, 2008, 08:05:57 PM
It seems that Ogshead's first (and only) ever wind-up post has been a success
Dont think so El, to be a sucess he would have actually had to be sucessful in winding people up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 18, 2008, 08:44:46 PM
Ok then perhaps he was just stoking the fire
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 18, 2008, 10:28:42 PM
Maybe I lost the run of myself at the end of my comments there, apologies to any offended clubs (well I know I did)!! My point was anyway is that people outside of Crossmaglen classify South Armagh as the invincible area. It's a catagory marked out by Crossmaglen's success. No other club in my opinion is better than the other and we all try our hardest... there's some shit talked on  this thread about who is better than who and taking potshots at clubs who are struggling a bit (and I'm glad I wasn't around for the StPats/Bridge debate). Anyway, it was just I noticed the comment about the all south armagh final and felt I had to comment, it will be all down to the day and I hope we win, get to final and hopefully cause an upset but I would bear no hard feelings if Killeavy got to the final. It caused a bit of debate there so I'm glad my first comment got a reaction and again my apologies to anyone offended!! :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 19, 2008, 09:06:00 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 18, 2008, 05:30:40 PM
regarding the whole cullyhann bridge argument ending corn and i hope this doesn't trigger it of again.

ah yes, hopefully so.

Does any true Gael see a rivarly between north, south and mid? I m all for competitiveness but who gives a damn where the players are from?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 19, 2008, 10:08:04 AM
Quote from: corn02 on September 19, 2008, 09:06:00 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 18, 2008, 05:30:40 PM
regarding the whole cullyhann bridge argument ending corn and i hope this doesn't trigger it of again.

ah yes, hopefully so.

Does any true Gael see a rivarly between north, south and mid? I m all for competitiveness but who gives a damn where the players are from?

I believe North & South Armagh have a we bit of rivalry, well thats the general view in the North but i believe it's more of an inferior complex that the North have over the South. Majority of the teams in the North are beaten before they go out to play their Southern Brethren (Can't understand myself)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 19, 2008, 11:10:34 AM
We were told growing up that teams in the North didn't like the lads coming with the "straw on their boots" :P  It's a load of auld balls anyway, you're either good enough or not.  In the 40's and 60's it was Clann Eireann, in the 50's the Harps, in the 70's and 80's it was the Clans.  Cross are the only constant, with the 50's being the only decade they never won a championship.  The reality though is that outsdie of Cross, Mullaghbawn won the one in 1995 to supplement the one the won in 1964, before that you have to go to the early 80's when Cruppen won 3 I think(they won 4 others either as Cruppen or Geraldines), Killeavey won 3, the last in 1948, Newtown won back to back ones 1940-41, Shane O'neills won 2 and Whitecross have the distinction of the first SA team to win it in 1905.

The over all breakdown is North 22, Mid 31, South 53.  Obviously Cross dominate the south figures with 37, so that gives you an idea of where things sit.  

It all means nothing really just a few interesting titbits.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 19, 2008, 11:46:50 AM
cross are also fortunate to have the biggest pick of players in Armagh, cruppen won championships at senior level  only when they had a pick that rivalled cross ie( no belleeks, corrinshego,Shanes etc), whilst plaudits should go to cross it isnt a level playing field
I sincerely hope the ogs or killeavey end their reign as its unhealthy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 19, 2008, 11:50:17 AM
Quote from: naka on September 19, 2008, 11:46:50 AM
cross are also fortunate to have the biggest pick of players in Armagh, cruppen won championships at senior level  only when they had a pick that rivalled cross ie( no belleeks, corrinshego,Shanes etc), whilst plaudits should go to cross it isnt a level playing field
I sincerely hope the ogs or killeavey end their reign as its unhealthy


Pardon my ignorance, but is Silverbridge & Culloville, not closer to Crossmaglen than Beleeks & Corrinshego? - & No disrespect to the latter 2 clubs, but Silverbridge & Culloville are both Div 1 teams!

EDIT - Sorry Silverbridge aren't - but still...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 19, 2008, 11:57:55 AM
Quote from: naka on September 19, 2008, 11:46:50 AM
cross are also fortunate to have the biggest pick of players in Armagh, cruppen won championships at senior level  only when they had a pick that rivalled cross ie( no belleeks, corrinshego,Shanes etc), whilst plaudits should go to cross it isnt a level playing field
I sincerely hope the ogs or killeavey end their reign as its unhealthy


Bullshit Naka.  That last census carried out stated that Cross town has a population of under 1600.  I would estimate that if you include the environment around it that actual level of people in the vicinity is around 6000.  If you consider that you have a pull of Silverbridge, Cullaville and to a lesser extent Cullyhanna, this shit about a bigger pick can be put in perspective.  Keady has a similar size population, Killeavey and Dromintee are the only clubs in a very large geographical area.  Shane O'Neills and Carrickcruppen are the only clubs in a larger urban area than Cross.  Mullaghbawn stretches from the top of Sturgan Brae, the whole way over to Forkill, then around the bottom of the hills to McGeoughs old shop on the Newry Road, up towards Beleelks old field and then across to Lislea.  I can guarantee that the majority of families in that geographical area are involved and that doesn't include the village itself.  It is an easy excuse to make, the simple fact is that there is a better set up on Cross than any other club and that is the main reason behind success.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 19, 2008, 12:02:52 PM
The main reason maybe BC but to suggest Cross do not have a much bigge pick than the average south armagh team is foolish.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 19, 2008, 12:12:48 PM
What is the Primary School set up in around that whole area?  Are the likes of Silverbridge, Cullyhanna, Mullabawn, Cullaville catered for by their own schools are do they all go to St Pat's PS in Cross? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 19, 2008, 12:21:09 PM
QuoteWhat is the Primary School set up in around that whole area?  Are the likes of Silverbridge, Cullyhanna, Mullabawn, Cullaville catered for by their own schools are do they all go to St Pat's PS in Cross?

All of these clubs have a primary school in their area.

The relevant website (http://www.denidata.nics.gov.uk/) appears to be down, but it might be interesting to look at the numbers in these schools as a measure of the pick in an area.

Cross has not much more than 2000 people in its "zone". More than its neighbours for sure, but there is a strong football culture in those parts. I think there was one year when all 4 clubs in Upper Creggan were graded senior, although the Bridge, Culloville and Naomh Malachi are mostly Intermediate.

To put the Cross pick in perspective the average catchment for an Armagh club probably has 1500 (divide nationalist pop of Armagh by no of clubs). Taking out the Junior/Div 4 clubs the average would be higher.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 19, 2008, 12:33:56 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 19, 2008, 11:10:34 AM
We were told growing up that teams in the North didn't like the lads coming with the "straw on their boots" :P  

:D :D But there is this feeling among some guys in North Armagh that the South Armagh men are made of Concrete :-[ and the North guys crumble when they play South Armagh teams. As for me personally i loved playing against South Armagh teams as i was always out to show that steel will crumble concrete ;) :D

I believe it's 15 men against 15 men and whoever wants it the most will win. As for who has the bigger catchment areas i know nothing about that side of things from down here. Maybe you hoors are drinking diesel up there and thats what's making you look 30 when you are only 15 :P :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 19, 2008, 12:35:38 PM
I asked as the Principal of St Pat's was telling me that when they won the McGreevy Cup last year the players recieved a Guard of Honour from members of the Cross Senior panel.  Something like that is bound to have a big effect on any young lad and if you are not from Cross & unless your Da is going to drag to Silverbridge underage training or wherever you'd likely want to go to Cross.  If you get them young, you'll likely keep them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 19, 2008, 12:47:55 PM
Bc i dont believe what i say is bullshit, cross are the only team in a fiercely gaelic community who are also extremely wealthy( money fron ocupation of the grounds etc)  their only opposition was st johns which was quickly diffused,cullyhanna have 2 clubs competing,  keady have a hurling team which cross dont have,mullaghbawn have forkhill pinching 1/2 players, shanes and cruppen compete in an area that holds its allegiance to soccer, as does killeavey, lurgan is a soccer area with say 5 clubs competing,
to say u operate under the same constraints as everyone else is naive
whilst I respect cross, i have more respect for the guys who run phelim bradies, clady, lissummon madden etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 19, 2008, 12:50:33 PM
Naka you have a point in there somewhere to suggest the likes of the runners of Phelims do more than The people who run cross is crazy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 19, 2008, 12:57:43 PM
corn I didnt say that what i said is that the guys who are involved in  phelim bradys etc these clubs know success will probably nver come to their underage teams nor their senior teams yet they still, mark the pitch chase sponsorship etc, I see that as a far harder and difficult  task than being involved in the most successful club in armaghs historyi
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 19, 2008, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: corn02 on September 19, 2008, 12:02:52 PM
The main reason maybe BC but to suggest Cross do not have a much bigge pick than the average south armagh team is foolish.

Of course there is a slightly bigger pick but less than some think.  Like the schools in Kilkenny the kids at St Pat's are taught to idolise the senior team from a young age.  I don't know if they still do it but Oisin and Aaron among others would go to the school to coach the young lads.  They have it breed into them as kids. 

I''ll give you an example of the difference in the areas.  I went to St Pat's Cullyhanna primary school.  When I was in P6 we won the McGeevey Cup, the first school in the area to do it.  The team was backboned by players who were Cullyhanna underage players, with myself, and Micheal McVerry from the Bridge.  There were some great players on that team, with at least 3 that went on to play minors for Armagh and Des Mackin played senior.  Cullyhanna never built on it and lost out on a potential county championship winning team as they had a lot of great players from th eprevious years team as well.

The following year St Pat's in Cross won it, with a team of Oisin, Francie, the Macs among others.  I played with them in the club and against them in the school, it was odd to say the least.  There ws very little difference between the two underage club teams at the time, we both would have played regulalry against each other, and Kileavey were in that mix too.  The difference was Tim Gregory took us under his wing and made us unbeatable.  We lost 2 underage games from U 12 to minor, in all competitions but the players were all from "established"  football families.  When we came through to senior, the club used our success to instill belief into all the young lads and that is reaping its rewards now.     It is not that there are more players but simply that they are getting better coached. 

I heard an interview with the gret Weeshie Fogarty on the radio today which summed up why the likes of Tommy Walsh and Ogie Moran's son are playing so well.  They are excellent players in their own right, but they are playing with superstars.  This brings them to a different level of performance as they are training with better players, therefore learning better habits, they are developing the winning belief and they have supreme confidence in themselves and their team mates.  I would liken that to Cross.  There are more people living in Cork than Kerry and individually there is not a massive leap between them in terms of skill, but the difference is that Kerry have developed a system which works  consistently and all the players buy into it.  This is similar to the Cross set up.


Quote from: naka on September 19, 2008, 12:47:55 PM
Bc i dont believe what i say is bullshit, cross are the only team in a fiercely gaelic community who are also extremely wealthy( money fron ocupation of the grounds etc)  their only opposition was st johns which was quickly diffused,cullyhanna have 2 clubs competing,  keady have a hurling team which cross dont have,mullaghbawn have forkhill pinching 1/2 players, shanes and cruppen compete in an area that holds its allegiance to soccer, as does killeavey, lurgan is a soccer area with say 5 clubs competing,
to say u operate under the same constraints as everyone else is naive
whilst I respect cross, i have more respect for the guys who run phelim bradies, clady, lissummon madden etc

Naka that's fair enough but the reason Cross don't have as many constraints is because the senior team that I was on was so successful that no one wanted to go elsewhere.  But there is also a different mentality of the people involved and consequently the success feeds down.  The guys who run Phelim Brady's put in no more or no less effort than the ones involved in Cross and that, coupled with your comment in regards to money, are belittling to say the least.  We did not win All Irelands because we had money.  Money did not make myself and 30 other lads bust our holes on a training field.  We made the effort 15 years ago when Armagh was a joke of a county footballing wise to bring a bit of success to the county.  As a result the likes of you and many other posters here have had the opportunity to see Armagh lift Sam for the first time.  Cross changed the mentality of people in Armagh and no one can ever deny that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 19, 2008, 01:28:58 PM
i dont think cross were the reason we won Sam ,they helped but geezer, mc grane atc were trhat focussed that they were going to die for the cause
i would never belittle cross and their achievements and accept that tim gregory was an important part of that  all i was saying was its easier to be associated with a successful team than a poor team, that is why their pick is greater
i recall when cruppen went to the 3rd division no one wanted to manage them nor sponsor them  it was only the usual families who contributed to the cause( loughrans, mcguinnesses burns etc)yet now they are getting relative success at underage level a whole new breed of families are getting involved who would have no tradition
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 19, 2008, 01:32:50 PM
Naka, the likes of McGeeney and McGrane were driven of course, but you underestimate the influence of the likes of the McEntees.  Their wining attitude drives people on more than most.  They were as big a factor than the two you mentioned as they are born winners
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 19, 2008, 01:34:48 PM
bc, point taken about mc entees
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 19, 2008, 01:40:55 PM
BC1 - But then again Kerry Don't have to compete, to the same level, as Cork do with Soccer, Rugby & above all Hurling!

Cork have to be overall the top sporting County.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 19, 2008, 01:51:49 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on September 19, 2008, 01:40:55 PM
BC1 - But then again Kerry Don't have to compete, to the same level, as Cork do with Soccer, Rugby & above all Hurling!

Cork have to be overall the top sporting County.

I agree Goats.  The point I was making there is that player for player I feel there is not a huge difference between the two teams, simply that the Kerry boys have a winning mentality and the Cork lads don't.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 19, 2008, 02:09:25 PM
BC - don't get me wrong I said the bgger pack is a factor, but only a small one. i appreciate Cross and their achievements.

Naka - fair enough I see where your coming from. But all I know is that there is no way the volunteers in other clubs could work harder than the Dromintee volunteers and that goes fro Harps, Cross etc as well I am sure.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 19, 2008, 08:01:38 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 19, 2008, 12:12:48 PM
What is the Primary School set up in around that whole area?  Are the likes of Silverbridge, Cullyhanna, Mullabawn, Cullaville catered for by their own schools are do they all go to St Pat's PS in Cross? 

Benny, Silverbridge is hardly catered for by a Primary School.  The Primary school in the area is Glassdrummond - it's got about 100 pupils and would only really get children from Glassdrummond or Tullydonnell.  - Most of the 'bridge kids would go to school in Cullyhanna (and maybe to a lesser extent Cross). 

I'd say Cullaville is similar, their Primary School is also very small and I'd imagine Cross Primary gets a lot from Cullaville. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 19, 2008, 08:54:55 PM
 Quote from Broken Crossbar "Obviously Cross dominate the south figures with 37"

Psychic ;) ;) I hope your right BC 1 :) :)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 19, 2008, 09:17:32 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on September 17, 2008, 09:30:09 AM
INTERMEDIATE
Saturday 20 September
Intermediate Football Championship Quarter-Final Replay (4.00)
Culloville v Wolfe Tone at Ballyhegan
Extra time, if required

Saturday 27 September
Intermediate Football Championship Semi-Final (4.00)
St Patrick's v Sarsfields at Pearse Og Park

Saturday 4 October
Intermediate Football Championship Semi-Final (4.00)
Silverbridge v Culloville/Wolfe Tones at Cullyhanna or Pearse Og Park


think the sarsfields cullyhanna game could be a very good game probably head up to it next weekend.  whoever comes through this game no doubt be jstifiable favourites for the final.

would be interesting to see cullyhanna and the bridge in the final alright, however i think whoever comes through the tones cullaville game will account for the bridge.  saw them against st.pauls wo had them on the rocks in the 1st half then damian mccann took over in the 2nd half. 

intermediate always appears to provide some excitement when it gets to this stage!

cullaville will start favourites tomorrow our form has really picked up the last month though  ffeel we may have missed the boat the last day!hope i am wrong!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 19, 2008, 09:29:11 PM
Quotehowever i think whoever comes through the tones cullaville game will account for the bridge.  saw them against st.pauls wo had them on the rocks in the 1st half then damian mccann took over in the 2nd half.

I don't know if that's fair Charlie, we started without at least 5 regulars for that game and won by 6 points. - 0-15 to 1-6, with their goal coming from a penalty.


That said the 'bridge will be up against it, at full strength I'd be confident but if we do progress it'll probably have to be without McAvoy, Hamill and Niall Reel which will be extremely difficult.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 19, 2008, 09:41:15 PM
yous certainly improved in the 2nd half wasnt aware that you where missing so many.  whats wrong with those 3 boys pints be big loss alright
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 19, 2008, 09:57:30 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on September 19, 2008, 09:41:15 PM
yous certainly improved in the 2nd half wasnt aware that you where missing so many.  whats wrong with those 3 boys pints be big loss alright

Well I don't really know the details on the injuries of if they're likely to make it back in time but McAvoy and Hamill haven't played in a few games now, I think I heard Cormac wasn't even fit to tog out against in either Keady games?
Just heard Reel carried off against Keady, heard it was ligaments so not good if that's true :-\
Young McGarvey only fit to play here and there too (through injury) and we need him back at his best and in the middle of the field.

That's arguably the f**king midfield, CHF and CHB out  :-\


But anyway, no excuses, no time to feel sorry for ourselves, the shirts will be filled and there's a championship to win!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on September 19, 2008, 10:34:06 PM
Silverbridge and St Patrick's to make it an "All South Armagh Final" with the Cullyhanna men to avenge their previous championship defeat when they lost to Silverbridge after extra time in a replay at Crossmaglen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 20, 2008, 08:20:27 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 19, 2008, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: corn02 on September 19, 2008, 12:02:52 PM
The main reason maybe BC but to suggest Cross do not have a much bigge pick than the average south armagh team is foolish.



I''ll give you an example of the difference in the areas.  I went to St Pat's Cullyhanna primary school.  When I was in P6 we won the McGeevey Cup, the first school in the area to do it.  The team was backboned by players who were Cullyhanna underage players, with myself, and Micheal McVerry from the Bridge.  There were some great players on that team, with at least 3 that went on to play minors for Armagh and Des Mackin played senior.  Cullyhanna never built on it and lost out on a potential county championship winning team as they had a lot of great players from th eprevious years team as well.

The following year St Pat's in Cross won it, with a team of Oisin, Francie, the Macs among others. 

Quote from: naka on September 19, 2008, 12:47:55 PM
Bc i dont believe what i say is bullshit, cross are the only team in a fiercely gaelic community who are also extremely wealthy( money fron ocupation of the grounds etc)  their only opposition was st johns which was quickly diffused,cullyhanna have 2 clubs competing,  keady have a hurling team which cross dont have,mullaghbawn have forkhill pinching 1/2 players, shanes and cruppen compete in an area that holds its allegiance to soccer, as does killeavey, lurgan is a soccer area with say 5 clubs competing,
to say u operate under the same constraints as everyone else is naive
whilst I respect cross, i have more respect for the guys who run phelim bradies, clady, lissummon madden etc

Naka that's fair enough but the reason Cross don't have as many constraints is because the senior team that I was on was so successful that no one wanted to go elsewhere.  But there is also a different mentality of the people involved and consequently the success feeds down.  The guys who run Phelim Brady's put in no more or no less effort than the ones involved in Cross and that, coupled with your comment in regards to money, are belittling to say the least.  We did not win All Irelands because we had money.  Money did not make myself and 30 other lads bust our holes on a training field.  We made the effort 15 years ago when Armagh was a joke of a county footballing wise to bring a bit of success to the county.  As a result the likes of you and many other posters here have had the opportunity to see Armagh lift Sam for the first time.  Cross changed the mentality of people in Armagh and no one can ever deny that.


I think I won the McGreevey Cup the following year (1988) with Armagh CBS.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on September 20, 2008, 04:01:30 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on September 18, 2008, 01:36:09 PM
Any North, Mid South debate is nonsense.

To suggest S. Armagh clubs or any club throughout the county gives them an easy ride dosent make sense. What more can Lissummon, Belleeks, St. Pats etc. do?? What do you mean by suggesting they are doinf fcuk all compared to any other club in the county??
You are talking about competeing against possibly the most succesful club side in history.

The only answer is for teams where possible to compete and obtain success on a consistent basis. Not all clubs can do this ue to small populations, however in my opinion this is the only solution.

Armagh is no different to any other county in that realistiaclly there are only 3 or 4 serious challengers for senior honours each season.
The difference is that Cross have such an abundance of talent at present that this is going to be difficult to achieve.



Sorry to have to point this out but just wondering who the other 2/3 teams are that have been competing with Cross for senior county honours?

Making up the numbers is hardley competing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 20, 2008, 04:09:05 PM
Harps beat the Ogs in the minor champ 2-11 to 1-6.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on September 20, 2008, 06:16:28 PM
anyword on the hurling finals?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 20, 2008, 06:26:11 PM
cullaville beat tones by 3 points in the semi final of intermediate.

cullaville scored 2 goals in the 1st half went in 6 up at the break.  some very naive tactis from miceal magill cost us imo.  they had a very dangerous 2 man ff line and a lad of our just 17 got a complete roasting and still wasnt taken off.  injuries to johnny mccarron, ryan mcquillan and david heaney being on hoidays didnt help our cause. 

with around ten mins left we where 5 points down continually tried for a goal in hindsight if we took our points we could have won or possibly forced extra time.  had a great chance for a goal with 2 mins left same situation as last week however they buried their chance we hit the black spot. 

fair play to cullaville wish them all the best in the remainder of their championship, the better team won 2night, though if the bridge can get at their full back line they will get alot of joy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 20, 2008, 11:09:57 PM
QuoteI'd say Cullaville is similar, their Primary School is also very small and I'd imagine Cross Primary gets a lot from Cullaville.

I would have thought that Clonalig school and the Cullaville club intake more or less overlap, except for one or two townlands on the boundary. Basically the area is better defined than Silverbridge, the Fane on one side and Cross on the other. Not a big school, so not a big pick.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 20, 2008, 11:41:52 PM
And who says Armagh people aren't interested in hurling.... Who won the county final in Killeavy today?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 21, 2008, 12:32:50 AM

i'm reliably informed that keady won at a canter
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on September 21, 2008, 11:23:11 AM
Quote from: Uladh on September 21, 2008, 12:32:50 AM

i'm reliably informed that keady won at a canter
Keady beat Middletown 5-13 to 1-11, a real game of 2 halfs, Keady were extremely lucky to be in contention at half time, Middletown did all the hurling. Keady blew them away in the 2nd half. Portadown beat Craobh Rua in the junior final 1-13 to 1-9, Portadown were up by 11 points at ht and just did enough to hold on against a game Camlough team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 21, 2008, 12:37:10 PM
I hear Cross are due to play an Ulster (railway cup) select on Wednesday night in the Athletic Grounds.  There are no flies on Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 21, 2008, 03:18:54 PM
It will be handy for the Harps to have a good look at them. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on September 21, 2008, 07:04:07 PM


Who will all the Kernans play for ?   :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 22, 2008, 08:27:37 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on September 21, 2008, 07:04:07 PM


Who will all the Kernans play for ?   :-\

Their Da!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 22, 2008, 07:02:34 PM
steven cant make the cross team never mind the ulster team.O I FORGOT HIS DAD IS THE  MANGER
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 23, 2008, 08:32:46 AM
Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:32 am    Post subject: ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 28 SEPTEMBER 2008   

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ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 28 SEPTEMBER 2008


Saturday 27 September

Intermediate Football Championship Semi-Final (4.00)
St Patrick's v Sarsfields (Malachy McNicholl) at Pearse Og Park

Minor Football Championship Quarter-Finals (2.00)
Granemore v St Patrick's (Gary Smith) (12.00)
Crossmaglen v Maghery (Patrick Duffy)
Harps v Carrickcruppen (Damian McConville)
St Peter's v St Brigid's (Jim Slevin)
1st named team has home advanatage
Extra time, if required


Sunday 28 September

Junior Football Championship Semi-Finals
Grange v Tullysaran (Oliver Hearty) at Athletic Grounds (2.00)
Forkhill v Middletown (Stephen Murray) at Athletic Grounds (4.00)

ACL – Division Two (12.00)
Keady v Tir na nÓg (Gerard Devlin)
An Port Mor v Ballymacnab (Henry McCloy)
Wolfe Tone v Granemore (Kevin Gallogly)
Clann Eireann v St Michael's (Stephen McKinley)

ACL – Division Three (12.00)
Ballyhegan v Clonmore (Rory Robinson)
St Peter's v Lissummon (Malachy McNicholl)
Belleek v Collegeland (Jim Lynch)
St Paul's v Annaghmore (Joe Murtagh)
Madden v Crossmaglen II (Jim Burns)

ACL – Division Four (12.00)
Eire Og v Phelim Brady's (Sean McClatchey)
Derrynoose v Corrinshego (Seamus O'Neill)
Clady v Mullaghbrack (Vincent O'Neill)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 23, 2008, 11:34:16 AM
back off (sic) the net

Go and learn to spell....you twit
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on September 23, 2008, 11:36:31 AM
Quote from: back off the net on September 22, 2008, 07:02:34 PM
.O I FORGOT HIS DAD IS THE  MANGER

Surely even Joe isn't big enough to be a manger?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on September 23, 2008, 01:28:07 PM
Looking forward to the SFC semis. I don't often get to club games any more but a trip to the new Athelic Grounds for the double header will tempt me down.

Could well be a Killeavy v Crossmaglen final, couldn't it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 23, 2008, 01:56:27 PM
Quote from: SouthArmaghBandit on September 23, 2008, 01:28:07 PM

Could well be a Killeavy v Crossmaglen final, couldn't it?

could well be, but we'll be doing our best to try and make sure it's not.

I'm really loking forward to our game, it has all the potential to be a thriller.  all of our games against Killeavy over the last few years have been entertaining.  The tally being 2 wins - 1 draw and 1 defeat in killeaveys favour from the last four games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 23, 2008, 02:01:08 PM
so do u think Killleavey wud be favourites then el_c?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on September 23, 2008, 02:08:29 PM
id say there'll be one or two points in it either way. should be a great game with plenty of quality footballers on show.

the other semi unfortunately will be a convincing win for cross.

Id like to see a cross ogs final as i dont think killeavy would have a chance if they got to the final and on their day the ogs could beat any team.

good luck to both sets of teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 23, 2008, 02:53:13 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on September 23, 2008, 02:01:08 PM
so do u think Killleavey wud be favourites then el_c?

I'd say the betting could be even enough, not really much between the teams i'd say. 

I would go with what bubbles said.  It is a hard one to call, and Killeavey are on a great run at the minute, finished very strongly in the league and have continued at the same pace
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 23, 2008, 03:29:49 PM
If the Ogs break even at MF (and that's a helluva big if!) they could shade it as they have a bit more alround quality, but I do fancy Killeavey for this one. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewingedlady on September 23, 2008, 04:34:23 PM
What time's that cross-ulster game on at in the gaelic field then? Would be worth watching.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 23, 2008, 04:50:01 PM
On paper Killeavy are a long way off a number of clubs in Armagh but they have a serious momentum going at the moment. Since a heavy defeat to Cullyhanna they have barely lost a game. Some very tidy players and they will certainly make a game of it. Ogs by three.

Cross should come throug h the other semi but perhaps by a very small margin. Harps showed great fighting spirit, mentally and physically, against Mullaghbawn. Swift was excellent that day and if he and Vernon can continue that and Vernon gets a run at the Cross defence it will be interesting. Where Vernon plays will have a big bearing. Donaldson is liable to get pover-run by him if he gets going. Droping one of the Macs back on him might be the best option for Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 23, 2008, 05:15:05 PM
Quote from: corn02 on September 23, 2008, 04:50:01 PM
On paper Killeavy are a long way off a number of clubs in Armagh but they have a serious momentum going at the moment. Since a heavy defeat to Cullyhanna they have barely lost a game. Some very tidy players and they will certainly make a game of it. Ogs by three.

Cross should come throug h the other semi but perhaps by a very small margin. Harps showed great fighting spirit, mentally and physically, against Mullaghbawn. Swift was excellent that day and if he and Vernon can continue that and Vernon gets a run at the Cross defence it will be interesting. Where Vernon plays will have a big bearing. Donaldson is liable to get pover-run by him if he gets going. Droping one of the Macs back on him might be the best option for Cross.

I think Cross will win handy enough (although i hope not for club footballs sake) from what i seen 2 weeks ago no-one in Armagh will stop them. Although maybe we made them look like superstars but i feel if they play like that again who will beat them. Seriously...

I think the Ogs will just shade this one by 2-3pts. Killeavey are a good side but bar midfield the Ogs have quality in most positions. Will andy be back as he would do some marking job on McDonnell and McDonnell wouldn't like Mallon on him (who would)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 23, 2008, 05:22:31 PM
With Vernon, Holmes and Paul Hagan to come back in you never know with the Harps!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 23, 2008, 05:31:15 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 23, 2008, 05:22:31 PM
With Vernon, Holmes and Paul Hagan to come back in you never know with the Harps!!  ;)

Lets hope so as Cross need to be put to the sword soon. Armagh club football is a joke now with Cross dominating they way they have been doing. (I know it's not Cross's fault they have an exceptional bunch of footballers all in the one era)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 23, 2008, 05:35:45 PM
 Armagh SFC Semi Finals (click here to open|close this coupon)
  Match     Home Draw Away   
05 Oct 14:00 Pearse Ogs vs Killeavy     8/11   7/1   11/8   
05 Oct 15:45 Crossmaglen Rangers vs Armagh Harps     1/12   14/1   6/1   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on September 23, 2008, 06:08:12 PM
heard today from a prominent crossmaglen man that big joe has taken aaron and stephen along as players on the ulster panel. i know aaron has established himself into one of the best players in armagh in recent years. stephen struggled to make his club team last year was in and out of the armagh team this year and now all of a sudden he is with ulster for the railway cup. i certainly think it is a bit harsh on the alot better players in the province! maybe with club championships still in action throughout the province he has been called in to make up numbers in training! i really dont know!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 23, 2008, 07:50:09 PM
I think we will find it hard at the weekend.  Harps will be bouyed by there gritty win against Mullaghbawn.  If you add into that the goodwill that Holmesy will bring with him from Tyrones win, they will be confident.  Cross are hardly an unknown so they will have to be at their best to win.  I expect them to win but Harps will be somewhat of an unknown and being complete underdogs they will have to be minded.

I think the Ogs will win with a bit to spare.  I think this is the year their name is on the cup and they would have to be favourites to win against Killeavey with some to spare.  Killeavey may be on a good run but Ogs are a serious team.  All over the field they will have too much class and if they an shackle McDonnell it will be a confortable win.  My only fear for them is that they might find being such strong favourites a hard mantle to carry but I think they are mentally strong enough to deal with that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 23, 2008, 08:56:58 PM
Ogs by 4
Cross by 10 - sorry rufus and co.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 23, 2008, 09:40:45 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 23, 2008, 05:15:05 PM
Quote from: corn02 on September 23, 2008, 04:50:01 PM
On paper Killeavy are a long way off a number of clubs in Armagh but they have a serious momentum going at the moment. Since a heavy defeat to Cullyhanna they have barely lost a game. Some very tidy players and they will certainly make a game of it. Ogs by three.

Cross should come throug h the other semi but perhaps by a very small margin. Harps showed great fighting spirit, mentally and physically, against Mullaghbawn. Swift was excellent that day and if he and Vernon can continue that and Vernon gets a run at the Cross defence it will be interesting. Where Vernon plays will have a big bearing. Donaldson is liable to get pover-run by him if he gets going. Droping one of the Macs back on him might be the best option for Cross.

I think Cross will win handy enough (although i hope not for club footballs sake) from what i seen 2 weeks ago no-one in Armagh will stop them. Although maybe we made them look like superstars but i feel if they play like that again who will beat them. Seriously...

I think the Ogs will just shade this one by 2-3pts. Killeavey are a good side but bar midfield the Ogs have quality in most positions. Will andy be back as he would do some marking job on McDonnell and McDonnell wouldn't like Mallon on him (who would)

Would love to see Andy back as he is a big asset to the team and think that he is the best man to mark Mc Donnell... however the Ogs have got good quality backs all over, it's never been a problem for us over the years. I have heard that he will be available but not certain. I think it's going to be a tight one and that we'll win by a couple of points. Killeavy will be no pushovers, just because we have a few county men doesn't guarantee a win as we have found out to our cost against Carrickcruppin in '05 and Mullabawn the following year. it'll also be great to see some football back at the Athletic Grounds... anyone going to watch Cross and Ulster there tomorrow night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on September 23, 2008, 11:22:36 PM
Ogs v Killeavy - a draw
Cross by 5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 24, 2008, 12:20:21 AM
heard Cross travelled to Carolw to play Eire Og and gave them a right hammering at the w/end. not 100% with the scoreline but i think it was 4-17 to 0-11.

what chance have the rest of us ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 24, 2008, 08:41:02 AM
What time is Cross v Ulster game @ tonight? is it def in the Athletic Grounds?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 24, 2008, 08:44:20 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 24, 2008, 08:41:02 AM
What time is Cross v Ulster game @ tonight? is it def in the Athletic Grounds?

Somebody is bound to know... Maybe if you put the question outside this thread you will get an answer?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthArmaghBandit on September 24, 2008, 08:51:28 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 23, 2008, 05:35:45 PM
Armagh SFC Semi Finals (click here to open|close this coupon)
  Match     Home Draw Away   
05 Oct 14:00 Pearse Ogs vs Killeavy     8/11   7/1   11/8   
05 Oct 15:45 Crossmaglen Rangers vs Armagh Harps     1/12   14/1   6/1   

Which bookie is offering those prices I'll decide? I would seriously consider a few quid on Killeavy. Always go with form and they are the form team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 24, 2008, 08:55:21 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on September 24, 2008, 08:44:20 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 24, 2008, 08:41:02 AM
What time is Cross v Ulster game @ tonight? is it def in the Athletic Grounds?

Somebody is bound to know... Maybe if you put the question outside this thread you will get an answer?

Some of the Cross Lads are bound to know
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on September 24, 2008, 08:55:45 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 19, 2008, 08:01:38 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 19, 2008, 12:12:48 PM
What is the Primary School set up in around that whole area?  Are the likes of Silverbridge, Cullyhanna, Mullabawn, Cullaville catered for by their own schools are do they all go to St Pat's PS in Cross? 

Benny, Silverbridge is hardly catered for by a Primary School.  The Primary school in the area is Glassdrummond - it's got about 100 pupils and would only really get children from Glassdrummond or Tullydonnell.  - Most of the 'bridge kids would go to school in Cullyhanna (and maybe to a lesser extent Cross). 

I'd say Cullaville is similar, their Primary School is also very small and I'd imagine Cross Primary gets a lot from Cullaville. 



If anything pints its the other way about, younsters come out from Cross to go to school in Clonalig. I cant think offhand of any Culloville people who go to primary school in Cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on September 24, 2008, 08:56:53 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 23, 2008, 07:50:09 PM
I think we will find it hard at the weekend.  Harps will be bouyed by there gritty win against Mullaghbawn.  If you add into that the goodwill that Holmesy will bring with him from Tyrones win, they will be confident.  Cross are hardly an unknown so they will have to be at their best to win.  I expect them to win but Harps will be somewhat of an unknown and being complete underdogs they will have to be minded.

I think the Ogs will win with a bit to spare.  I think this is the year their name is on the cup and they would have to be favourites to win against Killeavey with some to spare.  Killeavey may be on a good run but Ogs are a serious team.  All over the field they will have too much class and if they an shackle McDonnell it will be a confortable win.  My only fear for them is that they might find being such strong favourites a hard mantle to carry but I think they are mentally strong enough to deal with that.

So from that comment are Cross 3rd favourites for the championship?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 24, 2008, 09:01:57 AM
Quote from: thebandit on September 24, 2008, 08:56:53 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 23, 2008, 07:50:09 PM
I think we will find it hard at the weekend.  Harps will be bouyed by there gritty win against Mullaghbawn.  If you add into that the goodwill that Holmesy will bring with him from Tyrones win, they will be confident.  Cross are hardly an unknown so they will have to be at their best to win.  I expect them to win but Harps will be somewhat of an unknown and being complete underdogs they will have to be minded.

I think the Ogs will win with a bit to spare.  I think this is the year their name is on the cup and they would have to be favourites to win against Killeavey with some to spare.  Killeavey may be on a good run but Ogs are a serious team.  All over the field they will have too much class and if they an shackle McDonnell it will be a confortable win.  My only fear for them is that they might find being such strong favourites a hard mantle to carry but I think they are mentally strong enough to deal with that.


So from that comment are Cross 3rd favourites for the championship?  ;)

Jaysus bandit, I never said that :P  As I said I expect them to beat Harps this weekend but they will be pushed to the pin of their collar. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 24, 2008, 09:26:45 AM
Quote from: SouthArmaghBandit on September 24, 2008, 08:51:28 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 23, 2008, 05:35:45 PM
Armagh SFC Semi Finals (click here to open|close this coupon)
  Match     Home Draw Away   
05 Oct 14:00 Pearse Ogs vs Killeavy     8/11   7/1   11/8   
05 Oct 15:45 Crossmaglen Rangers vs Armagh Harps     1/12   14/1   6/1   

Which bookie is offering those prices I'll decide? I would seriously consider a few quid on Killeavy. Always go with form and they are the form team.

Boylesports...Lump on saan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 24, 2008, 11:35:37 AM
The Cross v Ulster game has been moved.  Somewhere in Monaghan apparently.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 24, 2008, 11:37:44 AM
f**k that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 24, 2008, 11:46:21 AM
QuoteThe Cross v Ulster game has been moved.  Somewhere in Monaghan apparently.

Are we tipping Cross or Ulster for this one?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 24, 2008, 12:15:03 PM
I would be interested in seeing the Ulster team, Cant see any Tyrone lads playing, they havent sobered, and there are also a lot of guys tied up with club championships round the province, so it would interesting to see who Big Joe has on offer
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 24, 2008, 01:05:24 PM

He has a house full of players sure
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 24, 2008, 01:42:42 PM
Is SK really on the panel, seems a bit strange. What is the youngest Ross like? Good footballer or what?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on September 24, 2008, 02:45:26 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 23, 2008, 07:50:09 PM
I think we will find it hard at the weekend.  Harps will be bouyed by there gritty win against Mullaghbawn.  If you add into that the goodwill that Holmesy will bring with him from Tyrones win, they will be confident.  Cross are hardly an unknown so they will have to be at their best to win.  I expect them to win but Harps will be somewhat of an unknown and being complete underdogs they will have to be minded.

I think the Ogs will win with a bit to spare.  I think this is the year their name is on the cup and they would have to be favourites to win against Killeavey with some to spare.  Killeavey may be on a good run but Ogs are a serious team.  All over the field they will have too much class and if they an shackle McDonnell it will be a confortable win.   My only fear for them is that they might find being such strong favourites a hard mantle to carry but I think they are mentally strong enough to deal with that.


Who do Cross play at the weekend?  :P

Just a question BC1, when was the last time you saw Ogs play? I heard they were VERY average against Granemore, completely losing midfield and relying on a last minute goal to seal the victory. Again they didn't look great against the Harps in the drawn league game, I would definitely take Killeavey to win this game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 24, 2008, 02:46:52 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 23, 2008, 05:22:31 PM
With Vernon, Holmes and Paul Hagan to come back in you never know with the Harps!!  ;)

how far is he off first team appearances!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 24, 2008, 02:48:27 PM
About 2feet... (One right, one left  ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 25, 2008, 08:28:54 AM
howd cross get on last nite?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 25, 2008, 09:28:35 AM
I see the Cuchulianns play middletown in the atheltic grounds next Thursday night under the lights
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on September 25, 2008, 09:43:34 AM
Quote from: Candyman on September 24, 2008, 02:48:27 PM
About 2feet... (One right, one left  ;))

:D :D :D

Typical Harps man then
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 25, 2008, 09:59:34 AM
just read there that cross beat ulster by 16 points, i know they may not have had a very strong team out but still... holy fcuk!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 25, 2008, 10:03:23 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on September 25, 2008, 09:59:34 AM
just read there that cross beat ulster by 16 points, i know they may not have had a very strong team out but still... holy fcuk!

They still missing McKenna then?  :P

Ulster, I would say would have a very strong line up, even after club championship ommisions, Tyrone contingent & International Rules contingent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on September 25, 2008, 10:06:28 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on September 25, 2008, 10:03:23 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on September 25, 2008, 09:59:34 AM
just read there that cross beat ulster by 16 points, i know they may not have had a very strong team out but still... holy fcuk!

They still missing McKenna then?  :P

Ulster, I would say would have a very strong line up, even after club championship ommisions, Tyrone contingent & International Rules contingent.

If S Kernan was on the Ulster panel as suggested earlier, then its not to strong. He is a good enough club player, possibly a bit part county man, but no where near the standard for Ulster.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 25, 2008, 10:11:57 AM
Anyone at the match? Teams & scorers etc?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on September 25, 2008, 12:12:35 PM
I was at it, they didn't win by 16, not sure but I think it was 7/8.

Cross lined out Hearty; Ryan Carragher, Francie, Fiddler Finnegan; Aaron, Paul McKeown, Paul Kernan; Johnny Hanratty, Tony Mac; S Kernan, John Mac, Jamie Clarke; Mickey Mac, Cathal Short, Fish Aherne. Subs Used: John Murtagh, Micheal Traynor, Rico Kelly, James Hughes.

Not positively sure of the Ulster team, but Ronan Gallagher started in goals, with James Reilly playing the 2nd half. Shane Goan (I think) at Corner Back, Kevin McCloy was at FB, Gerard O'Kane and Aidan Carr were the wing backs, Kevin Cassidy and Marty McGrath were in MF, Dick Clerkin and Mark Little were Wing Forwards and Tommy Freeman was in the corner.

Good lively game, young Jamie Clarke played well for Cross, Paul McKeown was good at CHB, John Hanratty and John Mac were strong in the middle. They are some outfit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2008, 12:24:06 PM
bandit is Franie Mac not making the starting 15?  There would be a few to add to that Cross team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on September 25, 2008, 12:29:59 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2008, 12:24:06 PM
bandit is Franie Mac not making the starting 15?  There would be a few to add to that Cross team.

was he not flat out with all this stuff goin on with the U.S economy... :P ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 25, 2008, 12:30:34 PM
Jamie Clarke is an excellent player and is certainly going to be one for the future. Did not know James Hughes was back playing, used to be a class act but he went off the radar completely - don't see that in Cross much. Personally I would have Carragher and Fiddler pushing Paul Kernan for a starting place. with Aaron, Skinny and JD in the half-back line. Is Skinny still injured?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2008, 12:35:05 PM
Skinny is not likely to play ball this year.  I agree about Fiddler and Ryan.  They are fine players.  Jamie is a great player and hopefully doesn't follow his brothers example!  James never was off the scene.  The competition is so tough he simply wasn't getting on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 25, 2008, 12:59:56 PM
Who is his brother.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on September 25, 2008, 01:11:49 PM
That would be Cormac aka Willy.

Talent to burn, but a sucker for fast cars, drink, fags and bad wemen!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on September 25, 2008, 01:16:15 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on September 25, 2008, 01:11:49 PM
That would be Cormac aka Willy.

Talent to burn, but a sucker for fast cars, drink, fags and bad wemen!

Willy is some boy alright! He had great talent when he was younger the hoor

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2008, 12:24:06 PM
bandit is Franie Mac not making the starting 15?  There would be a few to add to that Cross team.
Who is that?

Oisin, JD and Skinny would be a miss to any team. I forgot, Kyle Carragher came on as well.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T O Hare on September 25, 2008, 01:19:29 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on September 25, 2008, 01:11:49 PM
That would be Cormac aka Willy.

Talent to burn, but a sucker for fast cars, drink, fags and bad wemen!

i remember when we (mayobridge) used to play crossat 7 a side tournaments through the youth clubs in the SELB area.. we always manged to play cross in the final, Willie was there best player by a mile, way ahead of SK at 14/15/16... we had to put Benny on hime to stop him... we always came out on top of course :L :L
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2008, 01:27:26 PM
Quote from: thebandit on September 25, 2008, 01:16:15 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on September 25, 2008, 01:11:49 PM
That would be Cormac aka Willy.

Talent to burn, but a sucker for fast cars, drink, fags and bad wemen!

Willy is some boy alright! He had great talent when he was younger the hoor

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2008, 12:24:06 PM
bandit is Franie Mac not making the starting 15?  There would be a few to add to that Cross team.
Who is that?

Oisin, JD and Skinny would be a miss to any team. I forgot, Kyle Carragher came on as well.



Frannie MacNamee, (who is not the love child of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac :D)?  Damn fine player but is young and a big inexperienced yet.  You also forgot about Titch, is he not a big miss to a team?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 25, 2008, 02:23:23 PM
Why don't you hoors enter the Sam Maguire for next year and give the rest of us a chance :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2008, 02:25:28 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 25, 2008, 02:23:23 PM
Why don't you hoors enter the Sam Maguire for next year and give the rest of us a chance :D :D


Give us Andy Mallon, Kieran Toner, Stevie and Ronan and I'd say we'd do just as well as some counties :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: amallon on September 25, 2008, 02:35:06 PM
I don't care what Ulster were missing that is a fantastic achievement for Cross to beat them.  I know Cross have beaten a very county teams over the years.  BCB can you list any of these?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2008, 02:40:42 PM
I played against Louth, Monagahan and Kildare as well as numerous Armagh selects and u21 teams.  We beat Monaghan and Louth and Kildare scored a last minute goal to equalize with us in Cellbridge.  Now these are a few years ago so of very little relevance nowadays
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on September 25, 2008, 02:57:25 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2008, 01:27:26 PM
Quote from: thebandit on September 25, 2008, 01:16:15 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on September 25, 2008, 01:11:49 PM
That would be Cormac aka Willy.

Talent to burn, but a sucker for fast cars, drink, fags and bad wemen!

Willy is some boy alright! He had great talent when he was younger the hoor

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2008, 12:24:06 PM
bandit is Franie Mac not making the starting 15?  There would be a few to add to that Cross team.
Who is that?

Oisin, JD and Skinny would be a miss to any team. I forgot, Kyle Carragher came on as well.



Frannie MacNamee, (who is not the love child of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac :D)?  Damn fine player but is young and a big inexperienced yet.  You also forgot about Titch, is he not a big miss to a team?


Brother of Sean and Mickey? he's a bit young but a fine player.... Titch was there as well watching with the father. Joe Fitzy was there watching his club goalie - James Reilly (Drung), Fitzy is over there helping out as far as I know!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2008, 03:37:57 PM
He's a different McNamee but is still a fine player.

The Saddler has been involved in a few clubs in the Cavan/Monaghan area since he hung the boots.  Has he stayed in "good" shape, I haven't seen him in a while?



Quote from: thebandit on September 25, 2008, 02:57:25 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2008, 01:27:26 PM
Quote from: thebandit on September 25, 2008, 01:16:15 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on September 25, 2008, 01:11:49 PM
That would be Cormac aka Willy.

Talent to burn, but a sucker for fast cars, drink, fags and bad wemen!

Willy is some boy alright! He had great talent when he was younger the hoor

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2008, 12:24:06 PM
bandit is Franie Mac not making the starting 15?  There would be a few to add to that Cross team.
Who is that?

Oisin, JD and Skinny would be a miss to any team. I forgot, Kyle Carragher came on as well.



Frannie MacNamee, (who is not the love child of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac :D)?  Damn fine player but is young and a big inexperienced yet.  You also forgot about Titch, is he not a big miss to a team?


Brother of Sean and Mickey? he's a bit young but a fine player.... Titch was there as well watching with the father. Joe Fitzy was there watching his club goalie - James Reilly (Drung), Fitzy is over there helping out as far as I know!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 25, 2008, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 25, 2008, 09:28:35 AM
I see the Cuchulianns play middletown in the atheltic grounds next Thursday night under the lights

I heard Last night they were thinking about this, but for this Tuesday. Were did you get this info El C.

I can't see them letting a hurling game be the 1st under lights. If so it should be a free gate and a good look for the public.

This game would be a play off to represent Armagh in the Ulster Intermediate as Keady are reigning Ulster Champions and move up into Ulster senior; I suppose you could call it the Armagh Intermediate Final, as the lower grade is called Junior, but I think play-off sounds more appropriate
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 25, 2008, 04:27:25 PM
The Spirit of '98... (Correct me if I'M wrong)

10yrs ago Harps played Crossmaglen up in Whitecross in the semi-final of the U-21 championship, with Harps winning the game!!
In the other semi-final Pearse Og played Killeavy and Killeavy won that game....

FATE???  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 25, 2008, 04:43:44 PM
Doesn't ring a bell,  dont think it was U21 or minor, possibly a younger age group?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 25, 2008, 04:46:23 PM
We had the convent formal the night before that game and were only beat by a point,

:D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 25, 2008, 04:48:10 PM
dont shoot the messenger....
The lads playing said it was an u-21, some of them were still minor though???

Think it was actually '97 and XMG had won it from 93-96!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 25, 2008, 04:50:30 PM
Be very interesting to compare the teams from then and now to see of the four clubs who still plays.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2008, 04:55:56 PM
I'll hunt out the Cross teams.  For information only from 1991-98 Cross won 6 of eight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 25, 2008, 04:58:59 PM
Big Shane Nugent & Philly McKinney in midfield for Ná Claírsígh that day.... what a combination!!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on September 25, 2008, 05:51:46 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2008, 03:37:57 PM
He's a different McNamee but is still a fine player.

The Saddler has been involved in a few clubs in the Cavan/Monaghan area since he hung the boots.  Has he stayed in "good" shape, I haven't seen him in a while?



The Saddler is in fine shape alright!!! He seems happy enough over in Drung, he was with Latton before that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 25, 2008, 06:26:29 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 25, 2008, 04:48:10 PM
dont shoot the messenger....
The lads playing said it was an u-21, some of them were still minor though???

Think it was actually '97 and XMG had won it from 93-96!!!

It was u21, I was playing that day as well, most of us were still minor at the time though.  think it was 97.

The formal was some craic the previous night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 25, 2008, 06:28:22 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 25, 2008, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 25, 2008, 09:28:35 AM
I see the Cuchulianns play middletown in the atheltic grounds next Thursday night under the lights

I heard Last night they were thinking about this, but for this Tuesday. Were did you get this info El C.

I can't see them letting a hurling game be the 1st under lights. If so it should be a free gate and a good look for the public.

This game would be a play off to represent Armagh in the Ulster Intermediate as Keady are reigning Ulster Champions and move up into Ulster senior; I suppose you could call it the Armagh Intermediate Final, as the lower grade is called Junior, but I think play-off sounds more appropriate

One of your lads was tellin me this morning.  I think I'll have to go down and see it, It could cut up rough.  :)

the ring road will be packed again if the lights are on  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 25, 2008, 10:05:44 PM
It was definately 97 candy, i mind big Eky McGurgan taken cross inc macs and francis apart in killeavy in the semi, but then Barry Duffy did the damage in the final in the athletic grounds
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 26, 2008, 12:03:19 AM
I know a lot of you will be mad to get to this. You can read about the tragedy and the Gearld Fearon appeal at www.gfmemorialday.com. I am sure youhave read about it in the news over the last two years. A lot more names to be added that I will update, anyone likely to head?

In case you cant see the writing it is Armagh v An allstar select managed by Joe Kernan and Mickey Harte:

Ref:Pat McEnaney

Players: include : Kierna McGeeney, Conor Mortimer, Graham Geraghty, Paddy Bradley, Seanie Johnston, Paul Barden, Karol Mannion, Eamon O'Hara, Ross Munnelly, Brian Dooher, BRyan Cullen, Marty McGrath.

Saturday, October 18th. Dromintee.

Golden Oldies too - names to be revealed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on September 26, 2008, 08:03:25 AM
Good man Corn was going to put something up about it!

Should be a great event!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 26, 2008, 08:31:07 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 25, 2008, 06:28:22 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 25, 2008, 03:59:52 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 25, 2008, 09:28:35 AM
I see the Cuchulianns play middletown in the atheltic grounds next Thursday night under the lights

I heard Last night they were thinking about this, but for this Tuesday. Were did you get this info El C.

I can't see them letting a hurling game be the 1st under lights. If so it should be a free gate and a good look for the public.

This game would be a play off to represent Armagh in the Ulster Intermediate as Keady are reigning Ulster Champions and move up into Ulster senior; I suppose you could call it the Armagh Intermediate Final, as the lower grade is called Junior, but I think play-off sounds more appropriate

One of your lads was tellin me this morning.  I think I'll have to go down and see it, It could cut up rough.  :)

the ring road will be packed again if the lights are on  ;)

AFAIK we will also be playing for league points as well as a place in the Ulster Intermediate so should be a good game hopefully
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 26, 2008, 10:22:52 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 25, 2008, 10:05:44 PM
It was definately 97 candy, i mind big Eky McGurgan taken cross inc macs and francis apart in killeavy in the semi, but then Barry Duffy did the damage in the final in the athletic grounds
That is deadly, I have no recollection of either the semi or final and I'm pretty sure I would have been at both if I was about.  (I've no memory of the SFC final v Mullaghbawn in '95 either, but I could have slept through that one).

Who was the manager in 97?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 26, 2008, 10:31:36 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 26, 2008, 10:22:52 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 25, 2008, 10:05:44 PM
It was definately 97 candy, i mind big Eky McGurgan taken cross inc macs and francis apart in killeavy in the semi, but then Barry Duffy did the damage in the final in the athletic grounds
That is deadly, I have no recollection of either the semi or final and I'm pretty sure I would have been at both if I was about.  (I've no memory of the SFC final v Mullaghbawn in '95 either, but I could have slept through that one).

Who was the manager in 97?

cant remember the semi against Cross , but i do recall the final in the gaelic field.  correct me if I'm wrong, but is that the night there was a stripper for Harpo???? i think it was his birfday ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 26, 2008, 10:34:59 AM
Charlie Agnew i think. He took it when know one wanted it. And did so for many more years until finally reaching the promised land in 2005. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 26, 2008, 10:42:07 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 26, 2008, 10:34:59 AM
Charlie Agnew i think. He took it when know one wanted it. And did so for many more years until finally reaching the promised land in 2005. 

Ah but what a crop he had then...  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 26, 2008, 10:58:19 AM
What a crop indeed, you are refering to the unique backroom team he had of course. Just out of interest how many of the lads that beat cross that day will be lining out next week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 26, 2008, 12:02:34 PM
Lads could someone give me directions to Tullysaran's pitch from Lurgan (yes we could well be playing there in a few years but i have a meeting at their pitch on Monday) and i haven't a clue where it is...

do i go to Portadown - Moy - Benburb
Or M1 toward's Dungannon and cut back on myself???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 26, 2008, 12:07:58 PM
Come into the city via the portadown road!! Head for the cathedral (Road) and keep going on out there!! Go straight on past "Free Legar Hill" and the ballycrummy road and you are heading for eglish....
its about 6miles out there i'd say and you'll come to a set of cross-roads.
Left = Caledon
Straight on = Eglish
Right = Tullysaran

Take right at the cross roads and continue up the hill, travel for about a mile until you come to a clump of houses. You will see the chapel on the left and take the next left after that you couldnt miss the pitch....


Best I can do...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on September 26, 2008, 12:16:57 PM
If you are leaving from Lurgan, the handiest way is probably down the motorway and it's the first or second left after the motorway ends (think it's signposted Eglish). Go up that road a mile or two then head left for Armagh. The club is another few miles up that road. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on September 26, 2008, 02:02:40 PM
Best way to Tullysaran I believe is to go down the motorway. At end of motorway you come to a roundabout. Take first left heading for Eglish. When you go through Eglish follow signs to Armagh. You will pass Glass Factory and old Kernans mushroom buildings on your left. Couple of miles down the road come to a crossroads. Take a left signposted for Benburb/Blackwatertown. (you can see a church on your left). Travel along this road for about a mile. You will pass a pub on the corner. After this you will see houses on your right. Take first left past the chapel. Pitch and club rooms on left.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 26, 2008, 02:03:10 PM
Anybody going to take a run to Dromintee for that charirty match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 26, 2008, 02:33:27 PM
Cheers lads, I'll have to work out what ways the longest for the old £0.40p a mile trick (Travelling allowance);) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 26, 2008, 02:52:51 PM
Not sure if I had missed it but RIP to Kevin Donnelly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 26, 2008, 03:04:31 PM
QuoteAnybody going to take a run to Dromintee for that charirty match?

Likely will Corn - should get a good crowd provided its not clashing with any championship matches.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 26, 2008, 03:12:00 PM
County final the next day. So shouldbe a few on the Armagh side missing. Won't affect the all-star side.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on September 26, 2008, 03:19:46 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 26, 2008, 10:58:19 AM
What a crop indeed, you are refering to the unique backroom team he had of course. Just out of interest how many of the lads that beat cross that day will be lining out next week.

I would be interested to hear this also, i could hazard a guess at a few of them...

Charlie, Nippy, Sean Morrisson, Kevin Kelly, Chucky...

Just looked at that team's photo, of the panel who won the U21 championship in 2005, just 3 years ago, 12 players do not play for the Harps anymore. What a joke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on September 26, 2008, 03:50:18 PM
where are they all nash?
buckfast and australia has been the ruin of armagh city's clubs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 26, 2008, 04:01:05 PM
Quote from: nashville on September 26, 2008, 03:19:46 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 26, 2008, 10:58:19 AM
What a crop indeed, you are refering to the unique backroom team he had of course. Just out of interest how many of the lads that beat cross that day will be lining out next week.

I would be interested to hear this also, i could hazard a guess at a few of them...

Charlie, Nippy, Sean Morrisson, Kevin Kelly, Chucky...

Just looked at that team's photo, of the panel who won the U21 championship in 2005, just 3 years ago, 12 players do not play for the Harps anymore. What a joke.
On the panel - Paddy Morrison, Laim McAuley, Deccie Coulter, Smackers, Gerard McDonagh, Matt Cartmill? Kevin Daly?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 27, 2008, 05:27:52 PM
Harps beat Cruppen 1-14 to 0-10 in the Minor Champ Q/F, also hear Cullyhanna beat Granemore.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 27, 2008, 05:31:55 PM
A Chara,
I wish to take this opportunity on behalf of Coiste Contae Ard Mhacha to inform you that the Official switching on of the New Floodlight System at the Athletic Grounds, Armagh will take place on Wednesday 1st October @ 7.30pm. This will then be followed by an Inter County Senior Football Challenge Armagh Ulster Champions 2008 v Ulster Railway Cup Panel.   

Padraig Og Nuinseann
Rúnai
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 27, 2008, 06:25:56 PM
Anyone know the score in the Cullyhanna Sarsfields Champship game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 27, 2008, 07:20:26 PM
cullyhanna played them off the field looking good going into the final.great game from paudie mackin ciaran mc keever shane mc keever mal mackin.think the end result was 2.12 to 0.09.i would love to see a cullyhanna and silverbridge final so we get another hard hitting game only this time there will be no were to run for the bridge players if a fight does break out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 27, 2008, 07:29:31 PM
Quotei would love to see a cullyhanna and silverbridge final so we get another hard hitting game only this time there will be no were to run for the bridge players if a fight does break out
:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on September 27, 2008, 07:32:01 PM
Who won that game when they met a few years ago in championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 27, 2008, 07:38:23 PM
I'll let backofthenet talk you through that one  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 28, 2008, 11:59:00 AM
cullyhanna won the fight bridge men on the ground every were some were running like wee girls then we took them to ulster and won that as well so no one got suspended for kicking the f**k out off them it was better than winning the c ship.what did the bridge win? f**k all.they had to take crossmaglen out to play in there field this year just to get first DIV football back to the bridge its a laugh.lol.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 28, 2008, 12:04:37 PM
and then a gang of you go and beat up a lad in a disco - don't forget that. 
Three of your fellow Gaa men needing hospital treatment for head injuries (not to mention the lads with Conall Quinn) - are you proud of that?

At least you're honest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on September 28, 2008, 03:18:08 PM
Not this Sh*te again. ffs give it a rest lads, let the football do the talking.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 28, 2008, 03:31:17 PM
Quote from: MOJO on September 28, 2008, 03:18:08 PM
Not this Sh*te again. ffs give it a rest lads, let the football do the talking.
I'm not interested in talking about it all again especially when the 'bridge have a massive challenge ( and will be underdogs) in their semi final however I don't you see you offering any alternatives for discussion on this thread. 

What would you like to talk about? Lets start with what club are you from?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 28, 2008, 06:30:05 PM
Anyone at the junior semi finals today?  I hear tullysaran were beat by a point by the grange and missed a soft free at the last to level the game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 29, 2008, 07:59:13 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 28, 2008, 06:30:05 PM
Anyone at the junior semi finals today?  I hear tullysaran were beat by a point by the grange and missed a soft free at the last to level the game

Worst game of football I was at in a long time! Grange were the dominant team in the first half, but it took the introduction of Kevin Corrigan in the second half to provide a bit of scoring impetus for the 'saren.

The introduction of a big midfielder (Doyle?) in the 2nd half lasted all off 5 minutes when Paudi Hughes seen him take a Grange man out of it... he was promptly lined. A bit of pushing and shoving followed in the 'saren dug out, where big Audi didn't seem too impressed!!!

Grange kicked a high ball into the square near the end, which the unfortunate keeper, Shane Donnelly, dropped & a goal resulted. The 'saren then scored another point, & won a 14 yard free, from a tight angle, which KC missed.

A draw would have been a fair result. (I wouldn't have went to the replay though!!)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 29, 2008, 08:22:25 AM
Cheers goats.  I'd say there might be a few Tullysaran ones on the beer today then
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 08:25:01 AM
EDITED  :-X :-X :-X
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 29, 2008, 09:09:38 AM
Quote from: back off the net on September 28, 2008, 11:59:00 AM
cullyhanna won the fight bridge men on the ground every were some were running like wee girls then we took them to ulster and won that as well so no one got suspended for kicking the f**k out off them it was better than winning the c ship.what did the bridge win? f**k all.they had to take crossmaglen out to play in there field this year just to get first DIV football back to the bridge its a laugh.lol.

Not on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 09:12:24 AM
I take it Madden won Div 3 yesterday, was it Cross II's they beat??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 29, 2008, 09:39:29 AM
Quote from: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 08:25:01 AM
FFS Jerome Doyle made a quare clown out of himself yesterday!!1 There was none too happy with him lastnite anyway...

what did doyle do?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 29, 2008, 09:45:29 AM
Cullyhanna fully deserved their victory on Saturday evening. Sarsfield just didnt seem up for it & on this performance I would fear for them in Div 1 next year.
Ciaran Mc Keever had a solid game & Mal Mackin had a good first half.
Sarsfield had a few opportunities to make a game of it at the start of the 2nd half but hit 3 poor wides.
Cullyhanna won at a canter.
Special word about the referee, think it was Mc Nicholl. He gave St Pats everything, it had no bearing on the result at all, but any 50/50 challenge went the way of St Pats.
Cullyhanna should be confident going into the final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 09:52:11 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 29, 2008, 09:39:29 AM
Quote from: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 08:25:01 AM
FFS Jerome Doyle made a quare clown out of himself yesterday!!1 There was none too happy with him lastnite anyway...

what did doyle do?
(EDITED)  :-X :-X :-X Audie had words with him after!! Not best placed to Quote on this as I wasn't at it but fom speaking to Tullysaran men they aren't happy with him. :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Abble on September 29, 2008, 10:23:48 AM
did anyone actually see jerome striking anyone ? apart from paidi hughes ?

i know jerome's discipline has sometimes let him down in the past but i'd like to know what precisely he got sent off for first before passing judgement.


who won the other junior semi ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 10:28:21 AM
Quote from: Abble on September 29, 2008, 10:23:48 AM
did anyone actually see jerome striking anyone ? apart from paidi hughes ?

i know jerome's discipline has sometimes let him down in the past but i'd like to know what precisely he got sent off for first before passing judgement.


who won the other junior semi ?

Valid point as I Know first hand Pauidi Hughes is a clown, but when management etc crack up at him something must be wrong?
Give it a day or so until Hank Everlast is back and he can give us the full scoop...  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 29, 2008, 11:26:55 AM
Middletown won the other semi
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Abble on September 29, 2008, 11:34:15 AM
is right candyman....i wasn't even there myself (camera duties elsehwere)

grange would've known about jerome being a bit weak in the discipline dept and probably tried to get him riled up a bit....he would've been well warned prior to taking to the field, so i'm just interested to know for sure what did happen...the ref didnt see anything and was only pointed to the incident by hughes. i'd say if something 'silly' did happen, jerome is just annoyed as the next man....

will tullysarron ever win the junior !!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 11:42:00 AM
Quote from: Abble on September 29, 2008, 11:34:15 AM
is right candyman....i wasn't even there myself (camera duties elsehwere)

grange would've known about jerome being a bit weak in the discipline dept and probably tried to get him riled up a bit....he would've been well warned prior to taking to the field, so i'm just interested to know for sure what did happen...the ref didnt see anything and was only pointed to the incident by hughes. i'd say if something 'silly' did happen, jerome is just annoyed as the next man....

will tullysarron ever win the junior !!?

EDITED  :-X :-X :-X
Young KC must be gutted, Heard he missed a 21yard free at the death!!! AH well, im sure 3days on the beer with Mucker and Co will help get him over it!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 29, 2008, 11:47:45 AM
Quote from: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 11:42:00 AM
Quote from: Abble on September 29, 2008, 11:34:15 AM
is right candyman....i wasn't even there myself (camera duties elsehwere)

grange would've known about jerome being a bit weak in the discipline dept and probably tried to get him riled up a bit....he would've been well warned prior to taking to the field, so i'm just interested to know for sure what did happen...the ref didnt see anything and was only pointed to the incident by hughes. i'd say if something 'silly' did happen, jerome is just annoyed as the next man....

will tullysarron ever win the junior !!?

Young KC must be gutted, Heard he missed a 21yard free at the death!!! AH well, im sure 3days on the beer with Mucker and Co will help get him over it!  ;)

To be fair it was a tight angle, & he was their best player when he came on!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 29, 2008, 11:48:54 AM
Why didnt he start?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: full back on September 29, 2008, 11:48:54 AM
Why didnt he start?

It seems to be he doesn't start any of their games, something I cant work out myself!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 29, 2008, 12:38:16 PM
any truth in the rumour that mc donnell is going to change his backroom team for the coming season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 12:41:34 PM
Quote from: naka on September 29, 2008, 12:38:16 PM
any truth in the rumour that mc donnell is going to change his backroom team for the coming season

Heard a rumour he was told to read it out for next year..... but as I say only a rumour!!
T.W.T  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on September 29, 2008, 12:44:21 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: full back on September 29, 2008, 11:48:54 AM
Why didnt he start?

It seems to be he doesn't start any of their games, something I cant work out myself!!

he had an operation  on his shoulder at the start of the year......that may be the reason!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on September 29, 2008, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 09:12:24 AM
I take it Madden won Div 3 yesterday, was it Cross II's they beat??

yes madden beat cross 2nds yesterday to secure the div3 title. first league madden has won in 20 odd years!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 29, 2008, 12:46:27 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: full back on September 29, 2008, 11:48:54 AM
Why didnt he start?

It seems to be he doesn't start any of their games, something I cant work out myself!!

He was out for most of the season with an injured shoulder.  He came on for the last 15 mins against eire og in the 1/4 final and scored 1-3 I think.  I thought he would have started that match yesterday.   ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 12:51:12 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on September 29, 2008, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 09:12:24 AM
I take it Madden won Div 3 yesterday, was it Cross II's they beat??

yes madden beat cross 2nds yesterday to secure the div3 title. first league madden has won in 20 odd years!!

Harps V Madden next year in league Div 2  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 29, 2008, 12:55:01 PM
Does Beavis still play for Madden?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 29, 2008, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 29, 2008, 12:55:01 PM
Does Beavis still play for Madden?
B's I think...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 29, 2008, 01:02:03 PM
Anyone got a list of the week ends results?

Irish News doesn't have them today!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 29, 2008, 01:10:46 PM
Saturday 27 September

Intermediate Football Championship Semi-Final
St Patrick's 2-13; Sarsfields 0-9

Minor Football Championship Quarter-Finals
Granemore 1-12; St Patrick's 3-7
Crossmaglen 3-8; Maghery 0-12
Harps 1-16; Carrickcruppen 0-10
St Peter's 4-13; St Brigid's 0-11

ACL – Division Three
St Peter's 1-16; Lissummon 2-10


Sunday 28 September

Junior Football Championship Semi-Finals
Grange 1-5; Tullysaran 0-7
Forkhill 0-7; Middletown 1-7

ACL – Division Two
Keady 1-8; Tir na nÓg 0-12
An Port Mor 1-5; Ballymacnab 1-14
Wolfe Tone v Granemore (Off)
Clann Eireann w/o St Michael's cnf

ACL – Division Three
Ballyhegan 2-15; Clonmore 1-14
Belleek 0-15; Collegeland 2-3
St Paul's 2-7; Annaghmore 0-10
Madden 1-15; Crossmaglen II 0-6

ACL – Division Four
Eire Og 2-18; Phelim Brady's 0-5
Derrynoose v Corrinshego (Off)
Clady 2-8; Mullaghbrack 1-16


ACL - Division One
TEAM P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 17 15 2 0 32
Pearse Og 18 10 4 4 24
St Patrick's 18 9 1 8 19
Culloville 17 8 1 8 17
Killeavey 17 8 1 8 17
Mullaghbawn 18 7 2 9 16
Clan na Gael 17 6 3 8 15
Dromintee 18 7 1 10 15
Harps 17 4 3 10 11
Maghery 17 3 2 12 8

ACL - Division Two
TEAM P W D L Pts
Sarsfields 20 15 1 4 31
Carrickcruppen 21 14 1 6 29
Tir na nÓg 20 14 0 6 28
St Michael's 21 10 1 10 21
Granemore 19 10 0 9 20
Clann Eireann 19 9 1 9 19
Silverbridge 19 9 1 9 19
Ballymacnab 21 9 1 11 19
Wolfe Tone 18 8 0 10 16
Whitecross 19 8 0 11 16
Keady 16 4 1 11 9
An Port Mor 21 3 1 17 7

ACL - Division Three
TEAM P W D L Pts
Madden 19 15 3 1 33
St Paul's 20 13 1 6 27
Ballyhegan 19 13 0 6 26
Collegeland 21 12 2 7 26
Belleek 21 11 3 7 25
St Peter's 21 10 3 8 23
Annaghmore 21 10 0 11 20
Lissummon 22 7 3 12 17
Tullysaran 19 5 3 11 13
Clonmore 20 5 3 12 13
Grange 20 4 2 14 10
Crossmaglen II 19 3 3 13 9

ACL - Division Four
TEAM P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 17 16 1 0 33
Middletown 17 12 3 2 27
Eire Og 19 13 1 5 27
Derrynoose 16 11 0 5 22
Forkhill 18 10 1 7 21
Clady 17 7 2 8 16
O'Hanlon's 17 7 0 10 14
Mullaghbrack 18 5 2 11 12
Corrinshego 16 4 2 10 10
Dorsey Emmett's 19 4 0 15 8
Phelim Brady's 20 2 0 18 4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Abble on September 29, 2008, 01:15:27 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: full back on September 29, 2008, 11:48:54 AM
Why didnt he start?

It seems to be he doesn't start any of their games, something I cant work out myself!!

i dont hear any mention of mick coogan's performance....the former antrim county & st gall's midfielder..surely he should've been given the callup after jerome's dismissal to exert some influence back around the middle !
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on September 29, 2008, 01:16:59 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on September 29, 2008, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 29, 2008, 12:55:01 PM
Does Beavis still play for Madden?
B's I think...

Nah he togs out for the seniors! came on yesterday and start against cullyhanna in the championship!lol

Some good ties in div2 next year!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on September 29, 2008, 01:20:02 PM
Great battle for promotion between Crips and Tir na Nog there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 29, 2008, 01:20:30 PM
Quote from: Abble on September 29, 2008, 01:15:27 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: full back on September 29, 2008, 11:48:54 AM
Why didnt he start?

It seems to be he doesn't start any of their games, something I cant work out myself!!

i dont hear any mention of mick coogan's performance....the former antrim county & st gall's midfielder..surely he should've been given the callup after jerome's dismissal to exert some influence back around the middle !

St Enda's Glengormly ye dose! - Worth a shot in the full forward line all the same!

Cheers Full Back! - Tables are looking well!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Abble on September 29, 2008, 01:27:05 PM

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St Enda's Glengormly ye dose! [/quote]

my mistake...no need for the bad manners
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 29, 2008, 01:38:13 PM
Congrats to the Ogs B's who beat a strong Granemore team in the final of the Donal Powell last night. Right few senior boys playing for Granemore heard they finished with 11 on the field at the end.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on September 29, 2008, 03:52:13 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 08:25:01 AM
FFS Jerome Doyle made a quare clown out of himself yesterday!!

Your sum p***k, how do you know he made a clown of himself, when you werent even at it! I WAS at it and i can assure you he didnt strike the midfielder (oh and im a neutral), he run into him, it was what some people call 3rd man tackle. Hearty went over to Paudie Hughes asked him what happened and he said he seen nothing then mins later when Hearty had done his rounds Paudie was able to give a full account that he punched him. disgrace. If Hearty refs a few Cross games then they wouldnt finish with too many players.

Was very poor game of footie. But suppose local derbies are like that, too much at stake. Tullysarron are a good side bulging with talent but lacking a bit of height. Middletown should win final, but you never know
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 04:05:06 PM
Quote from: border rabbit on September 29, 2008, 03:52:13 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 08:25:01 AM
FFS Jerome Doyle made a quare clown out of himself yesterday!!

Your sum p***k, how do you know he made a clown of himself, when you werent even at it! I WAS at it and i can assure you he didnt strike the midfielder (oh and im a neutral), he run into him, it was what some people call 3rd man tackle. Hearty went over to Paudie Hughes asked him what happened and he said he seen nothing then mins later when Hearty had done his rounds Paudie was able to give a full account that he punched him. disgrace. If Hearty refs a few Cross games then they wouldnt finish with too many players.

Was very poor game of footie. But suppose local derbies are like that, too much at stake. Tullysarron are a good side bulging with talent but lacking a bit of height. Middletown should win final, but you never know


If you read the rest of my posts I have stated that I was speaking to Tullysaran men who told me this, and when saying he made a clown out of himself I'm also talking about what went on in the dug-out after he left the field of play!!! (Which by all acounts was one of the main talking points of the match.)  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 29, 2008, 04:51:29 PM
QuoteCullyhanna fully deserved their victory on Saturday evening. Sarsfield just didnt seem up for it & on this performance I would fear for them in Div 1 next year.
Ciaran Mc Keever had a solid game & Mal Mackin had a good first half.
Sarsfield had a few opportunities to make a game of it at the start of the 2nd half but hit 3 poor wides.
Cullyhanna won at a canter.
Special word about the referee, think it was Mc Nicholl. He gave St Pats everything, it had no bearing on the result at all, but any 50/50 challenge went the way of St Pats.
Cullyhanna should be confident going into the final

Didn't really think the ref favoured one side more than the other albeit that this isn't something you tend to notice as much against your own team.

Thought we played very well at times on Saturday, particularly in the first half and in the last 10 minutes. Excellent moves for both the goals. Good to see so many of our forwards playing, particularly Paudie Mackin and Liam O'Hare who had his best game for a while. There was excellent movement at times in the forwards, something which I've felt we've lacked in the past. Some of the point taking was excellent as well. That said, Sarsfields weren't really up to much and they gave off the impression of a team lacking a bit of belief which is strange for a side going so well in the League.

I'm not sure about being confident going into the final. Culloville were as good as us in the League although obviously Ciaran coming back into the side is a huge plus. If its a local derby against Silverbridge then these games tend to be close and difficult to predict.

Great day all round for the club on Saturday. The under 12s won the league and the minors made it into the semi final of the championship after a close 1 point victory over a reasonably unfortunate Granemore team. Granemore's inability to deal with Tony Donnelly's long range free kicks cost them 2-1 in the second half which was probably the winning of the match. Some very very questionable referring decisions as well. I genuinely try to avoid criticising the referee as much as I can but this was shocking at times.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on September 29, 2008, 04:53:53 PM
Quote from: border rabbit on September 29, 2008, 03:52:13 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 08:25:01 AM
FFS Jerome Doyle made a quare clown out of himself yesterday!!

Your sum p***k, how do you know he made a clown of himself, when you werent even at it! I WAS at it and i can assure you he didnt strike the midfielder (oh and im a neutral), he run into him, it was what some people call 3rd man tackle. Hearty went over to Paudie Hughes asked him what happened and he said he seen nothing then mins later when Hearty had done his rounds Paudie was able to give a full account that he punched him. disgrace. If Hearty refs a few Cross games then they wouldnt finish with too many players.

Was very poor game of footie. But suppose local derbies are like that, too much at stake. Tullysarron are a good side bulging with talent but lacking a bit of height. Middletown should win final, but you never know


historically Doyle is a clown  - always has been - didn't you see him in Duffys circus?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 05:04:00 PM
Now now.... you'll see the JD Gun show in action if your not careful!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on September 29, 2008, 05:10:31 PM
i seen denis hollywood with the culyhana mangement team on sat evenin at the cship game.is he part of the mangement team now?if he was just trainin them he was givin plenty of advice. he is a vry good trainer an am sure he is a good help
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 29, 2008, 05:12:19 PM
Does Denis not manage Newtown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on September 29, 2008, 06:21:16 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 05:04:00 PM
Now now.... you'll see the JD Gun show in action if your not careful!!!  ;)

I seen it before Candyman outside the Plough one night - he tried chasin Barry Daly down the entry where he met the show stopper and a pool cue
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 29, 2008, 10:56:10 PM
denis hollywood is one off the best trainers you could get so im sure cullyhanna can only get better by having him and he also lives in cullyhanna so im sure he is only to please to help them out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 30, 2008, 08:12:00 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on September 29, 2008, 06:21:16 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 29, 2008, 05:04:00 PM
Now now.... you'll see the JD Gun show in action if your not careful!!!  ;)

I seen it before Candyman outside the Plough one night - he tried chasin Barry Daly down the entry where he met the show stopper and a pool cue


Barry should have gassed him!!!  ;)

(I'll get my coat)  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 30, 2008, 09:07:04 AM
Quote from: AFS on September 30, 2008, 04:10:12 AM
Whats the craic in Div 2 with Keady? They've a lot of points to make up to avoid relegation but they do have 6 games to do it in. Is there a cut off date for them to get all of their games played by? They'd also have the Ulster hurling championship match or two to deal with in the next few weeks as well.

As far as i know all games must be finished before the 1st of November!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 30, 2008, 09:25:58 AM
From Irish News

Joe to joust with his beloved Armagh Gaelic Games
By Kenny Archer
30/09/08

JOE Kernan has always insisted he couldn't manage another team against his beloved

Armagh – but he'll do just that tomorrow night.

To be fair (as I always am), 'Big Joe' was talking about taking on another inter-county job, which this isn't, and there's the added

incentive that this contest will be a challenge game in aid of charity.

Kernan, the new manager of the Ulster football side for the inter-provincial series, will select a side to take on Armagh to mark the first match use of floodlighting at the re-developed Athletic Grounds (throw-in 7.30pm).

Even with Joe himself, his assistant, the Monaghan manager Seamus 'Banty' McEnaney, Derry legend Tony Scullion, and former Derry and Armagh trainer John McCloskey on the line for Ulster, Kernan predicts: "I think it'll be timid enough now. It won't be anything I'll lose any sleep over!"

Certainly none of his footballing sons – Stephen, Aaron, Tony, and Paul – are likely to be involved, for either side, as Crossmaglen Rangers have an Armagh SFC semi-final this Sunday, also at the Athletic Grounds, as they target a 13th consecutive county championship.

Club considerations would also rule out other Crossmaglen and Armagh players, plus those from the other semi-finalists (Armagh Harps, Killeavey, and Pearse Og), thus excluding the likes of Charlie Vernon, Steven McDonnell, Ronan Clarke, and Ciaran McKinney among others.

In those circumstances, Ulster will not call on any Armagh players tomorrow night, even though Finnian Moriarty, Brian Mallon, Aaron and Stephen Kernan, Kieran Toner, and Ciaran McKeever have all been involved with the provincial panel earlier this month.

Kernan knows options will be limited for his successor as Armagh boss, Peter McDonnell, but "he's gathering up as many as he can. But the main thing is that we're getting a match – he can have a look at some players and so can we."

Joe's own choices were literally halved for their first trial/challenge match against Crossmaglen at Monaghan's training ground, as he explains: "We started off with 44 – and out of those there were 22 available, between club matches and injuries."

This interview interrupted Kernan phoning round yesterday afternoon to check on players' availability and the panel will be subject to plenty of change before the Inter-provincial semi-final against Munster on Saturday October 25.

Kernan added: "We've had nearly two different groups over the last two weeks, so we'll keep an open mind."

Admission for tomorrow night's match at the Athletic Grounds will cost £5 (or E7) and proceeds will go to the Newry Hospice.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on September 30, 2008, 01:01:52 PM
Any one no where to get odds for the minor championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 30, 2008, 01:05:07 PM
Quote from: topgun on September 30, 2008, 01:01:52 PM
Any one no where to get odds for the minor championship?
I would try a Bookmakers shop in Armagh, should be able to help out a high profile character like yourself!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on September 30, 2008, 01:17:15 PM
Anyone know if the Harps will have a dinner or reception for Collie Holmes of if they did any previous year he won an AI?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 30, 2008, 01:20:45 PM
He is playing on sunday at the athletic grounds against cross if you fancy making the journey overthebar, I think someone told me the players had a bash for him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on September 30, 2008, 01:37:37 PM
I am sure Collie will recieve some form of official club recognition at the November Gala shin dig...

SO whats the thoughts on the 2 matches on sunday guys. I reckon the Harps will give it a good lash against cross. Though to be honest I don't think we have the scoring power to beat them, but sure ye never know, if your not in, you can't win!  ;D

Ogs v Killeavy should be a good game also, hopefully its a good day weather wise & all 4 teams (Well not cross  ;)) play to their potential. I fancy the Ogs to pip Killeavy

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on September 30, 2008, 05:26:45 PM
what odds would you get on cross winning the next 5 senior championships?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 30, 2008, 06:01:24 PM
QuoteSO whats the thoughts on the 2 matches on sunday guys. I reckon the Harps will give it a good lash against cross. Though to be honest I don't think we have the scoring power to beat them, but sure ye never know, if your not in, you can't win! 

Was at both Harps' and Cross' quarter finals and thought Harps looked very average against a limited Mullaghbán side. In contrast Cross were superb. Looking at the two sides it seems impossible to imagine how Harps stand any chance. Vernon and Holmes are good. But they aren't that good.

Hopefully Harps will make a game of it but its difficult to see them getting any closer than 5 or 6 points. That said, its all on the day and hopefully I'll be wrong.

Ógs on paper would be expected to beat Killeavy, but as people have mentioned earlier int his thread, Killeavy are in a great vein of form. May come down to which team gets the most out of its star county forward.

Quote from: Candyman on September 30, 2008, 01:05:07 PM
Quote from: topgun on September 30, 2008, 01:01:52 PM
Any one no where to get odds for the minor championship?
I would try a Bookmakers shop in Armagh, should be able to help out a high profile character like yourself!!  ;)

Which bookies is likely to have odds Candyman?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on September 30, 2008, 06:09:25 PM
You would struggle to get ods for minor c'ships, its hard enough to get them to price up senior championships these days
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 30, 2008, 06:41:46 PM
I am nervous enough about the weekend for the lads.  They are set up for a fall(I know they have been before and didn't fall)  but there is absolutley no pressure on the Harps.  If they get a good start and a bit of momentum, I think they can catch us, but who knows.  Ogs to win at a canter, Killeavey will be easily brushed aside.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on September 30, 2008, 06:51:54 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 30, 2008, 01:17:15 PM
Anyone know if the Harps will have a dinner or reception for Collie Holmes of if they did any previous year he won an AI?

This is the same player who, I was informed, held an "anti Armagh" party at his house on the day that Armagh beat Kerry in the 2002 AIF?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on September 30, 2008, 06:56:05 PM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on September 30, 2008, 01:37:37 PM
I am sure Collie will recieve some form of official club recognition at the November Gala shin dig...

SO whats the thoughts on the 2 matches on sunday guys. I reckon the Harps will give it a good lash against cross. Though to be honest I don't think we have the scoring power to beat them, but sure ye never know, if your not in, you can't win!  ;D

Ogs v Killeavy should be a good game also, hopefully its a good day weather wise & all 4 teams (Well not cross  ;)) play to their potential. I fancy the Ogs to pip Killeavy
Are both games in the Athletic Grounds?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 30, 2008, 06:57:48 PM
aye, double header Ogs game @ 02:00pm, cross take the stage @ 03:45pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 30, 2008, 08:57:04 PM
Quote from: border rabbit on September 29, 2008, 03:52:13 PM


  If Hearty refs a few Cross games then they wouldnt finish with too many players.




What do you mean by that statement. :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 30, 2008, 09:07:22 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on September 30, 2008, 06:51:54 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 30, 2008, 01:17:15 PM
Anyone know if the Harps will have a dinner or reception for Collie Holmes of if they did any previous year he won an AI?

This is the same player who, I was informed, held an "anti Armagh" party at his house on the day that Armagh beat Kerry in the 2002 AIF?

I'd say that's bull, he was already playing for the /harps at that stage as well... in fact, how low could you be to have an anti-anything party. one thing i did hear was that they used an Armagh jersey to wipe their feet in the door way to one of the pubs in the Moy,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 30, 2008, 10:37:07 PM
Thats fact, It was Jordans in the Moy, Phily Jordans das pub, I know a fella who went to it and turned away as soon as he seen it at the door
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 01, 2008, 12:40:09 AM
Crossfire what border rabbit means is that the Tullysaran lad was sent of for something in his opinion that the cross specialise in ie hitting of the ball and third man tackling. He is then stating that if Hearty (who sent the Tullysaran guy off) was ref at a cross game he would have sent loads off for similar incidents. So he was trying to put the incident as he saw it into perspective to some of the tactics adopted by cross. Now i wasn't at the game but that is what i took out of it.

The issue of Colie Holmes, if this guy did what certain folk are alledging then he should be ashamed of himself. I know there are rivaries in football but there is a fine line between disrspect and humour. Especially when this guy is playing his club football in Armagh. There is an old saying "one should never bite the hand that feeds you" If this hearsay about Holmes is true then he should seriously question the reasons behind what can ony be discribed as hatred. A little respect goes a long long way. When one looses this it is very hard to get it back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 01, 2008, 07:43:37 AM
QuoteA little respect goes a long long way. When one looses this it is very hard to get it back.

As you have found out on here!!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 01, 2008, 08:14:13 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 30, 2008, 06:01:24 PM
QuoteSO whats the thoughts on the 2 matches on sunday guys. I reckon the Harps will give it a good lash against cross. Though to be honest I don't think we have the scoring power to beat them, but sure ye never know, if your not in, you can't win! 

Was at both Harps' and Cross' quarter finals and thought Harps looked very average against a limited Mullaghbán side. In contrast Cross were superb. Looking at the two sides it seems impossible to imagine how Harps stand any chance. Vernon and Holmes are good. But they aren't that good.

Hopefully Harps will make a game of it but its difficult to see them getting any closer than 5 or 6 points. That said, its all on the day and hopefully I'll be wrong.

Ógs on paper would be expected to beat Killeavy, but as people have mentioned earlier int his thread, Killeavy are in a great vein of form. May come down to which team gets the most out of its star county forward.

Quote from: Candyman on September 30, 2008, 01:05:07 PM
Quote from: topgun on September 30, 2008, 01:01:52 PM
Any one no where to get odds for the minor championship?
I would try a Bookmakers shop in Armagh, should be able to help out a high profile character like yourself!!  ;)

Which bookies is likely to have odds Candyman?

Hughes or Tommy French possibly?? I checked my local (O'Neills) and he was just offering exactly the same as PP.

Cross 1/14
Draw 11/1
Harps 8/1

NO HANDI-CAP BETTING AT ALL!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 01, 2008, 08:18:21 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 01, 2008, 12:40:09 AM
Crossfire what border rabbit means is that the Tullysaran lad was sent of for something in his opinion that the cross specialise in ie hitting of the ball and third man tackling. He is then stating that if Hearty (who sent the Tullysaran guy off) was ref at a cross game he would have sent loads off for similar incidents. So he was trying to put the incident as he saw it into perspective to some of the tactics adopted by cross. Now i wasn't at the game but that is what i took out of it.

The issue of Colie Holmes, if this guy did what certain folk are alledging then he should be ashamed of himself. I know there are rivaries in football but there is a fine line between disrspect and humour. Especially when this guy is playing his club football in Armagh. There is an old saying "one should never bite the hand that feeds you" If this hearsay about Holmes is true then he should seriously question the reasons behind what can ony be discribed as hatred. A little respect goes a long long way. When one looses this it is very hard to get it back.

Lads, be rest assured that is complete and utter tripe!!!  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 01, 2008, 08:27:06 AM
Some of the stuff mouthed on this board is ridiculous.  That stuff about Collie Holmes is a load of rubbish.  So much for posting unfounded allegations  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on October 01, 2008, 08:37:53 AM
QuoteQuote from: Sandy Hill on September 30, 2008, 06:51:54 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 30, 2008, 01:17:15 PM
Anyone know if the Harps will have a dinner or reception for Collie Holmes of if they did any previous year he won an AI?


This is the same player who, I was informed, held an "anti Armagh" party at his house on the day that Armagh beat Kerry in the 2002 AIF?


I'd say that's bull, he was already playing for the /harps at that stage as well... in fact, how low could you be to have an anti-anything party. one thing i did hear was that they used an Armagh jersey to wipe their feet in the door way to one of the pubs in the Moy,

Thats simply not true. There was NEVER any jersey used to wipe feet. Moy gaels have more respect. Any person that can say they actually seen that incident take place? No, thought not. We can all come up with instances where rumors have circulated concerning other counties players/managers/supporters but thankfully lads there is no backing to the stories.

Collie Holmes had a lot more on his mind in 2002 than having anti-armagh parties, such as plotting the downfall of Armagh the next summer.
How much was the entry fee to this anti armagh party?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on October 01, 2008, 08:43:27 AM
QuoteThats fact, It was Jordans in the Moy, Phily Jordans das pub, I know a fella who went to it and turned away as soon as he seen it at the door

Exactly onion(ball) bag you know a fella which means your claim comes fom a secondary source in other words your source is not reliable which means your writing inaccurate unsubstantiated material. The moy is situated right on the border, with clientel (more so from armagh) choosing to spend their sterling in the villages public houses. No one who owns a public house in the Moy would be stupid enough to what you ae claiming.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2008, 08:48:43 AM
Quote from: Final Whistle on October 01, 2008, 08:43:27 AM
QuoteThats fact, It was Jordans in the Moy, Phily Jordans das pub, I know a fella who went to it and turned away as soon as he seen it at the door

Exactly onion(ball) bag   >:(you know a fella which means your claim comes fom a secondary source in other words your source is not reliable which means your writing inaccurate unsubstantiated material. The moy is situated right on the border, with clientel (more so from armagh) choosing to spend their sterling in the villages public houses. No one who owns a public house in the Moy would be stupid enough to what you ae claiming.


I am only writing it as a fact that someone told me that, How are you so 100% sure that it didnt happen, it may have been done as a joke as you say there is a lot of Armagh Clientel drinking in the Moy,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on October 01, 2008, 08:58:33 AM
because i know 100%, bet everything i own, swear on the holy bible, that it didnt happen. and there is no one on this board or elsewhere that could tell me otherwise because it DIDNT happen. armagh-tyrone relations are cordial in the moy area with a lot of families interlinked. it seems to be only those who have no connection with the moy (and probably never been in the moy for any length of time) that come out with REDICULOUS claims such as yours.

TBH you should apologise!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2008, 09:03:30 AM
Okay final whistle keep your hair on, calm down, Im not apologising for writing something that someone told me was Fact, anyways i make the initial allegation, i was only responding to a previous post,

Do you own a pub in the Moy or something and are afraid of your takings going down this weekend, if Armagh people are reading the board ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on October 01, 2008, 09:11:08 AM
not at all onion bag. if i owned a pub i would not be up at this time of the morning!lol.

inform your source that he is greatly mistaken, case closed as far as im concerned.

Best of luck to the harps at the weekend!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2008, 09:14:05 AM
I will ring him right now and tell him hes wrong, let bygones be bygones we all have to live together on this board,
;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on October 01, 2008, 09:27:55 AM
Candyman thats a lot of unfair abuse your directing at jerome.... He definetly didnt hit yer man, he didnt deserve to get sent off, his reputation definetly went before him and i feel very sorry for him.  He was starting a run forward when the fella pulled the hadbrake in front of him and Jerome never bothered sidestepping him, and why should he.  He then fell to the ground clutching his face and then followed the roars from about 13 grange men "hi ref", "look at that", "he hit him in the face", "thats all he was on to do", "dirty f**ker" and so on.... This was with out doubt orchastrated.... 

As for Paudi Hughes i am not goin to say one word because it will no doubt get me banned. Just hope use avoid him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2008, 09:32:43 AM
Was chatting to a fella last night and he told me that one of the Tullysaran lads told him that Jerome def did not strike,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 01, 2008, 09:36:45 AM
Lads, thats ridiculous talk about collie holmes

That guy is a pure gentleman

Onion Bag you should no better  ;)

;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 01, 2008, 09:44:59 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on October 01, 2008, 09:27:55 AM
Candyman thats a lot of unfair abuse your directing at jerome.... He definetly didnt hit yer man, he didnt deserve to get sent off, his reputation definetly went before him and i feel very sorry for him.  He was starting a run forward when the fella pulled the hadbrake in front of him and Jerome never bothered sidestepping him, and why should he.  He then fell to the ground clutching his face and then followed the roars from about 13 grange men "hi ref", "look at that", "he hit him in the face", "thats all he was on to do", "dirty f**ker" and so on.... This was with out doubt orchastrated.... 

As for Paudi Hughes i am not goin to say one word because it will no doubt get me banned. Just hope use avoid him.

Hank I've been over this with a few others while you were nursing a sore head!! if you read my comments I clearly state:

(a) I wasn't at the match
(b) I did not say he struck anyone, only gave the account I was told
(c) I did call him a clown because IMHO thats what he is
(d) I said he made a tool of himself simply because of what happened after he left the field of play
(e) Points b & d above were told to me by Tullysaran men....

I trust this has cleared the matter up and no court proceedings shall be issued.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2008, 09:53:53 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on October 01, 2008, 09:36:45 AM
Lads, thats ridiculous talk about collie holmes

That guy is a pure gentleman

Onion Bag you should no better  ;)

;D

Hi Umgola,

Read the posts, i never mentioned Collie Holmes, I agree he is a gentleman, i was chatting about the Armagh jersey at jordans pub, Read em and weep Umgola, you should know better,  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on October 01, 2008, 09:57:03 AM


Hank I've been over this with a few others while you were nursing a sore head!! if you read my comments I clearly state:

(a) I wasn't at the match
(b) I did not say he struck anyone, only gave the account I was told
(c) I did call him a clown because IMHO thats what he is
(d) I said he made a tool of himself simply because of what happened after he left the field of play
(e) Points b & d above were told to me by Tullysaran men....

I trust this has cleared the matter up and no court proceedings shall be issued.  ;)
[/quote]

You have still managed to call him a clown, a half-wit, a liability and stated that he is not well liked all coming from the fact that he was sent off unjustly on sunday.... hence its unfair abuse!

I mite have to call in the solicitor here....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 01, 2008, 10:06:20 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on October 01, 2008, 09:57:03 AM


Hank I've been over this with a few others while you were nursing a sore head!! if you read my comments I clearly state:

(a) I wasn't at the match
(b) I did not say he struck anyone, only gave the account I was told
(c) I did call him a clown because IMHO thats what he is
(d) I said he made a tool of himself simply because of what happened after he left the field of play
(e) Points b & d above were told to me by Tullysaran men....

I trust this has cleared the matter up and no court proceedings shall be issued.  ;)

You have still managed to call him a clown, a half-wit, a liability and stated that he is not well liked all coming from the fact that he was sent off unjustly on sunday.... hence its unfair abuse!

I mite have to call in the solicitor here....
[/quote]

I stand by those quoted in bold above from personal experience... and the 3rd about being a liability was proved on Sunday when he lasted how long on the field??  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 01, 2008, 10:07:06 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 01, 2008, 09:53:53 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on October 01, 2008, 09:36:45 AM
Lads, thats ridiculous talk about collie holmes

That guy is a pure gentleman

Onion Bag you should no better  ;)

;D

Hi Umgola,

Read the posts, i never mentioned Collie Holmes, I agree he is a gentleman, i was chatting about the Armagh jersey at jordans pub, Read em and weep Umgola, you should know better,  ;)

Yeah Umgola, yet again you jump in without reading all the information.   :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2008, 10:12:49 AM
Sort yourself out Umgola  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 01, 2008, 10:21:56 AM
Hank I've edited all my relevant posts on this matter, Hope this keeps you happy!!!  ;)
Don't want all the O'Connells men knocking the door!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 01, 2008, 10:33:58 AM
Seems to be some confusion as to who exactly ulster are playing tonight in the athletic grounds? i'm lead to believe that armagh can't field and mayobridge are stepping in?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2008, 10:45:51 AM
Where did you hear this? is it definite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 01, 2008, 11:09:03 AM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on September 30, 2008, 06:09:25 PM
You would struggle to get ods for minor c'ships, its hard enough to get them to price up senior championships these days
The winners of the Harps v Cullyhanna game would be big favourites in the final I'd imagine, although St Peters would be a bit of an unknown quantity. Cullyhanna would be favourites for this game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 01, 2008, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 01, 2008, 10:45:51 AM
Where did you hear this? is it definite

Hearsay from someone who tells me he was talking to an armagh player but i've no reason to doubt him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2008, 11:30:55 AM
A Mayobridge chap has confirmed on the down page that they are training in Kilbroney tonight,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 01, 2008, 11:33:45 AM

Never trust a feckin ogs man
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 01, 2008, 12:29:29 PM
Quote from: The GAA on October 01, 2008, 11:33:45 AM

Never trust a feckin ogs man

spoofers the lot of them  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 01, 2008, 12:31:12 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on October 01, 2008, 12:29:29 PM
Quote from: The GAA on October 01, 2008, 11:33:45 AM

Never trust a feckin ogs man

spoofers the lot of them  ;D

Especially Umgola, would believe a word he says
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 01, 2008, 12:41:09 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 01, 2008, 12:40:09 AM
Crossfire what border rabbit means is that the Tullysaran lad was sent of for something in his opinion that the cross specialise in ie hitting of the ball and third man tackling. He is then stating that if Hearty (who sent the Tullysaran guy off) was ref at a cross game he would have sent loads off for similar incidents. So he was trying to put the incident as he saw it into perspective to some of the tactics adopted by cross. Now i wasn't at the game but that is what i took out of it.




There was no gloating by any of the Crossmaglen posters about the outcome of our recent championship meeting with the Clans.
However on reading the above post it is obvious that the goodwill has not been reciprocated . :(
I'm sure border rabbit would be well able to post his own reply.

Anyway our disciplinary record is equally as good as Clans
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 01, 2008, 01:14:46 PM
winsam, I thought you were told that it is illdecide who was to represent your club in future :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 01, 2008, 02:08:15 PM
The day i take advice from you full back will be a cold day in hell  ;)

For the record crossfire you ask a question lad and i answered it. I was only giving an opinion on what border rabbit was getting at. I never said it was my opinion. Why ask a question if you don't want an answer.

Please tell me crossfire and fullback where i mentioned the clans in that post??? I think you will find i never mentioned it at all and was only trying to genuinely point out what border rabbit was trying to get at. If you don't like this Crossfire take it up with him. As i have said i wasn't at the match so i can only interpret what i read. :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 01, 2008, 02:20:50 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 30, 2008, 06:41:46 PM
I am nervous enough about the weekend for the lads.  They are set up for a fall(I know they have been before and didn't fall)  but there is absolutley no pressure on the Harps.  If they get a good start and a bit of momentum, I think they can catch us, but who knows.  Ogs to win at a canter, Killeavey will be easily brushed aside.

You're living too close to them Kerry men BC ;)

If we are realistic we have a very slim chance of an upset, I just hope we give it our all and see what happens as we really do have nothing to lose.  We need to play to our strengths and try not to worry what Cross are gong to do individually, as they have too many players capable of causing trouble for us to be formulating game plans about containing 1 or 2 players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on October 01, 2008, 03:38:54 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 30, 2008, 08:57:04 PM
Quote from: border rabbit on September 29, 2008, 03:52:13 PM


  If Hearty refs a few Cross games then they wouldnt finish with too many players.


What do you mean by that statement. :-\



Crossfire, no offence intended. I most definitely do not have a problem with the way Cross play football. What im saying is that Cross are 1 of the most physical teams in the country and if Hearty was to adopt the same principles that he applied on Sunday then they would have few left on the pitch. im only using Cross as an example cos they are the leading example in Armagh but could easily have said Armagh / tyrone / Kerry. (im not from Tullysarron but was at the match as a neutral and the sending off was a farce)

Again, no offence intended to Cross. But Hearty was / is a joke. Bad referreeing is 1 thing, but biased another. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1stsub on October 01, 2008, 05:24:33 PM
Especially Umgola

that umgola is a bad one!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 01, 2008, 05:58:27 PM
Onion Bag, 1st Sub and The GAA its possible i have heard the lies flowing from your tongues on a few wednesday afternoons in Renshaws
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on October 01, 2008, 08:08:05 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on October 01, 2008, 05:58:27 PM
Onion Bag, 1st Sub and The GAA its possible i have heard the lies flowing from your tongues on a few wednesday afternoons in Renshaws

you were graduated a long time after them boys umgola
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 01, 2008, 09:08:44 PM
To Border Rabbit
No offence taken. I understand what you are saying.

To Winsamsoon
Obviously you interpreted Border Rabbits post incorrectly. :) :)

Perhaps it was your own opinion you were trying to get across. ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on October 01, 2008, 09:40:53 PM
anybody go to the game 2nite, didn get down myself?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 01, 2008, 09:45:14 PM
Iceman - i was up there when them lads were starting off

Went to the game tonight and only stayed for the 1st half,

The pitch and stand looks impressive.

Best for Armagh going by the first half was Paddy Mo Junior, and Joe Feeney, the latter scoring 3 good points and a hand in the second goal

Ulster Goalie was the All star nominee, going by his display in the first half he would be lucky to make the club b team, two really soft goals!!!

The Bradleys were giving a good account of themselves for Ulster
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Doire abú on October 01, 2008, 11:06:51 PM
Was Eoin Bradley playing as well as Paddy? What other Derry men were lining out for Ulster?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 01, 2008, 11:15:22 PM
I think it was just the two bradleys

The midfielder was a monster of a lad maybe from Donegal
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Doire abú on October 01, 2008, 11:58:12 PM
Think I spotted Joe Diver in one of the pics posted in another thread, could have been him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on October 02, 2008, 08:51:59 AM
The team was something like this, there was no programmes so this is a rough guideline...

Ulster:

Reilly (Gallagher at HT)
Goan
McClean
Lacey
Harte
Cassidy
Crozier
Diver
Corey
Dooher /mcmanus
E Bradley
Little
Johnston
P Bradley
Flanagan/ Cullaville


Armagh:

Paudie Rodgers
Gareth Smyth
neil o rourke???
Finn Moriarty
Murray???
Tony McClelland
Barry Toner
Kieran Toner
Shane O'Neill
eugene McDonnell
Paddy McKeever
Paul McCaughey
Kevin O'Rourke
Joe Feeney
Brian Mallon


It was so frickn cold i only stayed till just after half time.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on October 02, 2008, 08:52:51 AM
Who is Barry Toner?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 02, 2008, 08:53:44 AM
Quote from: Whacker on October 02, 2008, 08:52:51 AM
Who is Barry Toner?

Lad from Granemore, about 25/26
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 02, 2008, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 01, 2008, 02:08:15 PM
The day i take advice from you full back will be a cold day in hell  ;)

For the record crossfire you ask a question lad and i answered it. I was only giving an opinion on what border rabbit was getting at. I never said it was my opinion. Why ask a question if you don't want an answer.

Please tell me crossfire and fullback where i mentioned the clans in that post??? I think you will find i never mentioned it at all and was only trying to genuinely point out what border rabbit was trying to get at. If you don't like this Crossfire take it up with him. As i have said i wasn't at the match so i can only interpret what i read. :-\

crossfire asked border rabbit a question & as per usual you come in with some nonsense
BTW, off course this is your own opinion
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 02, 2008, 09:50:14 AM
Who is Neil O'Rourke?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on October 02, 2008, 09:59:30 AM
Budgie....

How was the pool?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 02, 2008, 10:14:28 AM
Very, very good - see Pool thread. Who is budgie? Was that Wav or the Cullaville man, were you up? How did Rodgers do in nets?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on October 02, 2008, 10:18:45 AM
Yes the Wav..good game by all accounts..

Plays full back for Newtown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 02, 2008, 11:12:00 AM
Anyone any further predictions for the weekends games?
I have a sneaking feeling Killeavy could scrape through this if Stevie can work his magic in around the middle...  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 02, 2008, 11:38:28 AM
Again full back where have i mentioned the clans in the post???? for you to come out with a statement that i should leave the clans posts to i'lldecide.


Crossfire if that was my opinion i would tell you that was my opininion . That was a genuine attempt to interpret border rabbits post and i still think that is what he was trying to say. Maybe Border Rabbit could clear it up. Where you trying to say that if Hearty has been refereeing a cross match then the incident that the tullysaran lad got sent of for would have happened several times??? Hence he was pointing out the inconsistencies of the refereeing in Armagh. Maybe i am wrong but i don't think it warrants a personal attack from Full back. Fair enough it may not have been anything to do with me but i think the same would have applied to you full back. Then to brings the clans into it??? what is that all about??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 02, 2008, 11:46:07 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 02, 2008, 11:38:28 AM
Maybe i am wrong but i don't think it warrants a personal attack from Full back.

Wind your neck in sam FFS :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 02, 2008, 11:50:41 AM
Quote from: Candyman on October 02, 2008, 11:12:00 AM
Anyone any further predictions for the weekends games?
I have a sneaking feeling Killeavy could scrape through this if Stevie can work his magic in around the middle...  ???

I actually think you've hit on why killeavy won't win on sunday. stevie becomes a good club footballer when he operates aound the middle, whereas he's exceptional when he's in close to goal. killeavy won't have the firepower if he's at midfield. standfield offers very little beyond free kicks at this stage
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 02, 2008, 11:52:24 AM
Quote from: The GAA on October 02, 2008, 11:50:41 AM
Quote from: Candyman on October 02, 2008, 11:12:00 AM
Anyone any further predictions for the weekends games?
I have a sneaking feeling Killeavy could scrape through this if Stevie can work his magic in around the middle...  ???

I actually think you've hit on why killeavy won't win on sunday. stevie becomes a good club footballer when he operates aound the middle, whereas he's exceptional when he's in close to goal. killeavy won't have the firepower if he's at midfield. standfield offers very little beyond free kicks at this stage

I think Andy Mallon would get the better of him anyway...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 02, 2008, 11:56:33 AM
Quote from: The GAA on October 02, 2008, 11:50:41 AM
Quote from: Candyman on October 02, 2008, 11:12:00 AM
Anyone any further predictions for the weekends games?
I have a sneaking feeling Killeavy could scrape through this if Stevie can work his magic in around the middle...  ???

I actually think you've hit on why killeavy won't win on sunday. stevie becomes a good club footballer when he operates aound the middle, whereas he's exceptional when he's in close to goal. killeavy won't have the firepower if he's at midfield. standfield offers very little beyond free kicks at this stage

If Stanfield cut out the dirt he could be a match winner. On his day he is still brilliant. I sya Stevie will play on the 40 with Stanfield and maybe Duffy in the middle and they should clean up on kick outs but how they use it is another thing. Seamy Toner will probab;ly play full forward and he is a good shouit for a goal. I am expecting a very close match in this one. The team that appears to have the talent v the team who improved the most in the second half of the year and are not shy on confidence. Ogs by two.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: under the bar on October 02, 2008, 12:07:42 PM
QuoteThats fact, It was Jordans in the Moy, Phily Jordans das pub, I know a fella who went to it and turned away as soon as he seen it at the door

Absolute crap
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 02, 2008, 12:09:28 PM

The other way about ith stanfield and McDonnell corn. i haven't seen stanfield produce anything other than mediocrity for club or couny for over two years. rumour has it we could have a clarke v McDonnell clash at midfield on sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 02, 2008, 12:14:14 PM
To be fair I have only seen Stanfield a few times for club and he can turn it on, so i am going on limited viewing here.

Clarke v McDonnell in midfeild? Would be worth the admission price alone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 02, 2008, 12:48:30 PM
Cross v Harps: If Cross go out with the attitude they had against the Clans they will put Harps away early. Any complacency & Harps should make a game of it. Still, class to show in the end. Cross by at least 4 points

Og's v Killeavey: Has the potential to be a good game, as Killeavey on their day can give anyone a game. If Og's can break even at midfield they should win as they have more firepower up front. Og's by the minimum or a draw could be on the cards. Would be suprised if Killeavey pair Mc Donnell with Clarke

Culloville v Silvergridge: Cullyhanna await the winners in what should be another close encounter. Culloville's defence was exposed in the last round & if they havent tightened up the Bridge will expose them with goals.
If Culloville's injuries have cleared up they should win enough break ball in the middle to make up for their defence. Should be a good battle in midfield with Garvey (I think) a good prospect for the Bridge
Culloville by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on October 02, 2008, 12:55:47 PM
Is Andy Mallon back playing yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on October 02, 2008, 12:58:23 PM
Cross vs Harps-  Harps by 1 ;)

Killeavey vs Ogs- think the ogs will shade it prob 4/5points in the end.

Harps ogs final that will be sum final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 02, 2008, 01:35:44 PM
Andy featured for the Ogs in a challenge game their last sunday and from all reports played well. Good to see him back playing!

I'll take the Ogs to win on Sunday by how much i'm not sure. This year they hammered a poor Tir na nOg team, defeated Granemore by 4 points so its hard to know. As for the other game i think the Harps will put it up to Cross but apart from Joe and K.Kelly they lack any real scoring threat so Cross to win by 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 02, 2008, 01:47:46 PM
Quote from: The GAA on October 02, 2008, 12:09:28 PM

The other way about ith stanfield and McDonnell corn. i haven't seen stanfield produce anything other than mediocrity for club or couny for over two years. rumour has it we could have a clarke v McDonnell clash at midfield on sunday

The Ogs might as well play Clarke at MF because they win little enough ball to feed him in the first place and secondly if they do win any ball they tend to run it instead of bombing it in to him.  He was criminally underused v Granemore.   Stevie always seems to play further out the field in club football, but this is a game where he needs to be in close to goal, but Ogs have 2 of the best markers in the game in G McCoy and Andy Mallon, either could do a job on him.  I'e only seen Stanfield twice this year against us in the league and he looked very good; would he be a bit of a Ginny? If so JP would be the man for him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaa.boy on October 02, 2008, 01:48:25 PM
I see betfair have opened markets for this sundays semi-finals. It would be a good place for us boys to take each other on and bet on the matches rather than give the money to the bookies....Better to keep the loot among ourselves!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on October 02, 2008, 02:10:59 PM
did anyone hear anything on any retirees from the armagh squad?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on October 02, 2008, 02:17:25 PM
heard andy mallon played in friendly for the ogs at the weekend against derry finalists slaughneil in which the ogs won easily.

ogs v killeavy should be a good game. even if killeavy shade midfield the ogs defence doesnt give too many scores away and i think the ogs have the firepower up front to win the game even with limited possession around the middle.

in saying that i dont even think killeavy will win the midfield battle as theirs isnt that good.

ogs by 3

the harps are good defensively but their forward line lets them down and i cant see them being able to penetrate cross.

cross by 6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 02, 2008, 02:17:42 PM
Lads i think the og's will beat killeavy by 2 or 3 and the cross will beat the harps by 4 or 5.

Agreeing with what benny said there i think clarke would be more utilised on the edge of the square as would mc donell. I wouldn't think they would be natural midflieders, sure the pair of them can field a ball but i would hardly think Mc Donnell would be able to compete against a physical set of midfielders. I know if i were the manager of either of the teams i would have them guys closer to goal. If you don't score you don't win that is simple. Maybe they have no one else??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on October 02, 2008, 02:21:12 PM
Quote from: fred the red on October 02, 2008, 02:10:59 PM
did anyone hear anything on any retirees from the armagh squad?





havent heard of any yet did you hear of any
have heard that  new backroom team is being brought in
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 02, 2008, 02:31:05 PM
Quote from: naka on October 02, 2008, 02:21:12 PM
Quote from: fred the red on October 02, 2008, 02:10:59 PM
did anyone hear anything on any retirees from the armagh squad?





havent heard of any yet did you hear of any
have heard that  new backroom team is being brought in

Who?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on October 02, 2008, 02:33:10 PM
no names yet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 02, 2008, 03:01:59 PM
I hear some big midfielder from Phelim Bradys was brought on to the squad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 02, 2008, 03:15:52 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 02, 2008, 02:17:42 PM
Lads i think the og's will beat killeavy by 2 or 3 and the cross will beat the harps by 4 or 5.

Agreeing with what benny said there i think clarke would be more utilised on the edge of the square as would mc donell. I wouldn't think they would be natural midflieders, sure the pair of them can field a ball but i would hardly think Mc Donnell would be able to compete against a physical set of midfielders. I know if i were the manager of either of the teams i would have them guys closer to goal. If you don't score you don't win that is simple. Maybe they have no one else??

Thats a fair assessment Win but didn't you know that you aren't allowed you're opinion, in future run it by me first ;) ;) :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Old Bill on October 02, 2008, 04:48:10 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on October 02, 2008, 03:01:59 PM
I hear some big midfielder from Phelim Bradys was brought on to the squad
pardon me for my ignorance but are u serious? anyone show up well at the match last nite?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 02, 2008, 07:01:14 PM
Fullback
QuoteCulloville v Silvergridge: Cullyhanna await the winners in what should be another close encounter. Culloville's defence was exposed in the last round & if they havent tightened up the Bridge will expose them with goals.
If Culloville's injuries have cleared up they should win enough break ball in the middle to make up for their defence. Should be a good battle in midfield with Garvey (I think) a good prospect for the Bridge
Culloville by 2
Gerard McGarvey. A good prospect indeed but he's been carrying an injury for last few weeks and only played part of the last few games.  I don't know if he's fully fit now or what, hopefully he is, we'll need him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 02, 2008, 08:02:32 PM
are you getting your excuses in early Pints ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 02, 2008, 08:12:42 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on October 02, 2008, 08:02:32 PM
are you getting your excuses in early Pints ?
Ha! Hardly.  I've no time for excuses and no respect for anyone who starts making them, the shirts will be filled and there's a place in a championship final up for grabs. 

The 'bridge by 3.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RICH TEA on October 02, 2008, 09:49:14 PM
i hear bridge also missing ryan hamill, liam campbell and maybe nial reel all due to injury, surely the better players of the team if this is true will be cull win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 02, 2008, 10:02:14 PM
Quote from: RICH TEA on October 02, 2008, 09:49:14 PM
i hear bridge also missing ryan hamill, liam campbell and maybe nial reel all due to injury, surely the better players of the team if this is true will be cull win
Ryan and Niall I know about.  Never heard about Liam, it'll be some injury that keeps liam from playing - or he'll need to be tied down somewhere!
Also Cormac McEvoy hasn't played in quite a few games, don't think he'll be back?

Key players out yes but no excuses, perfect opportunity for the younger lads, Tryanor, the Byrnes and Hughes, Malley and Murphy etc to stand up and be counted.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Old Bill on October 02, 2008, 10:27:54 PM
Who is MC CANN? and is that a threat? calm down son...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 02, 2008, 10:30:48 PM
Quote from: Old Bill on October 02, 2008, 10:27:54 PM
Who is MC CANN? and is that a threat? calm down son...
I'd imagine he's talking about Silverbridge's Damien McCann. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RICH TEA on October 02, 2008, 10:41:35 PM
i think its time back of the net grew up, this fued is over, the bridge team that beat st pats 3 years ago on the scoreboard are nearly all now finished senior and playin b football, this is a new younger squad of the bridge team, well most of them, and no need to bring this up again( i have friends from both clubs who want this silly row forgot about and this will not happen with the likes of you makin threats) whoever wins this weekend in the semis the final will be a good clean one i hope and may the best team win.

i do think cull will win by 2 but should be a good one
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 02, 2008, 10:46:40 PM
Quotethe bridge team that beat st pats 3 years ago on the scoreboard are nearly all now finished senior and playin b football,
I can only think of 4 of that panel not playing senior now, Ciaran Conlon, Nicholas Traynor, Barry Campbell and Frank Smyth.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 03, 2008, 01:13:00 AM
Cuchulainns beat middletown 2nite in the intermediate play off. They play gort na mona on sunday at casement at the same time the harps and ogs are playing in armagh, leaving 6 lads a choice of ulster hurling semi or club football semi, surely this could be avoided.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 03, 2008, 08:49:26 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 03, 2008, 01:13:00 AM
Cuchulainns beat middletown 2nite in the intermediate play off. They play gort na mona on sunday at casement at the same time the harps and ogs are playing in armagh, leaving 6 lads a choice of ulster hurling semi or club football semi, surely this could be avoided.

well done last night Spirit.  From all accounts it seems to have been a bit tempestuous
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 03, 2008, 09:30:16 AM
From The Irish News

Harps capable of an upset against Cross Lucozade Armagh Senior Football Championship
By Niall McCoy
03/10/08

THE Athletic Grounds will have a new look for

Sunday's Armagh Senior Football Championship semi-finals and Charlie Vernon is hoping that Armagh Harps can prevent the same old story on the pitch.

Crossmaglen Rangers, the dominant force of Armagh football, are aiming for their 13th consecutive final and are odds-on favourites to overcome a side who were relegated from Division One this season.

But the City side have shown a different pedigree in this year's Championship and a seven-point victory over an improving

Carrickcruppen side in the first round was followed by a gritty, hard-working two-point victory over Mullaghabawn in the quarter-final.

Vernon missed that game through injury, but should be fit to take the field on Sunday and, after a successful first season in the Armagh starting 15, he is sure to have a pivotal role in proceedings.

"I missed the match because I went over on my ankle two nights before the game, but the guys showed character, especially when Mullaghbawn got their goal.

"We finished the game well and we are hopeful for Sunday. There is no point going on to the field if you don't give yourself a chance."

Collie Holmes also missed the Mullaghbawn match, but for different reasons. The midfielder was on county duty and went on to claim All-Ireland glory with Tyrone.

His return to the team is significant, because Crossmaglen's midfield performances have been slightly shy of their own extremely high standards in the odd League match and also in their first round Championship match against Dromintee.

If Holmes, Vernon and Gareth Swift can win enough possession to feed into their dangerous

full-forward line, they may have a chance.

"Having Collie back is a great boost; he is a leader and a great motivator. Obviously, like all games, the middle is going to be important.

"If we can win enough ball there the forwards will have a chance – but, against Cross, you need to take all your chances."

One of the most prominent forwards for Harps this year has been Kevin Kelly.

The full-forward is an injury concern for the match and is rated 50/50 to feature in their first semi-final since 2004 and, if he was unable to play, it would be a massive blow for the side.

"Kevin has been in excellent form this year. We really need him fit, because his free taking is

always good as well.

"We have good players throughout the team and we all need to play well."

The club are celebrating their 120th anniversary this year and relegation was not a part of the

celebratory plans, but Vernon is hoping there may be a celebration for a different anniversary – 50 years ago they won the Championship and they defeated Crossmaglen along the way.

"Obviously, it was tough going down when we were celebrating 120 years.

"The boys will hopefully re-group and we can get back up where we feel we belong.

"Cross's record speaks for itself and everything has to go right for us, but, if we take our chances, we will be in with a shout."

Crossmaglen are still without Brendan McKeown, but David McKenna may play some part after missing the Dromintee match and the rout of Clann na Gael in the quarter-final with a hand injury.

Vernon knows that, even with injuries, Crossmaglen will still field a formidable 15.

"The grounds may be done up and it is nice to be at the Athletic Grounds, because it was the scene of many Harps' triumphs, but, at the end of the day, it is just a pitch and we have to go out there and be the better team."


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on October 03, 2008, 09:58:35 AM
Very well written  :P

is there anywhere giving the handicap on the cross match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 03, 2008, 10:07:37 AM
Quote from: Whacker on October 03, 2008, 09:58:35 AM
Very well written  :P

is there anywhere giving the handicap on the cross match?

You have no chance...

Once again in that article CV comes across as the gent he really is.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 03, 2008, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: Whacker on October 03, 2008, 09:58:35 AM
Very well written  :P

is there anywhere giving the handicap on the cross match?

Is that a piece from the boul Corn then?  Nice piece but I hate to see articles like that when we should be going in under the radar. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on October 03, 2008, 11:57:45 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 03, 2008, 01:13:00 AM
Cuchulainns beat middletown 2nite in the intermediate play off. They play gort na mona on sunday at casement at the same time the harps and ogs are playing in armagh, leaving 6 lads a choice of ulster hurling semi or club football semi, surely this could be avoided.

Whos the six lads i know of coulter, turley barton and gribben who's the other two??

Excellent win last nite for cuchulainns, a nice wee scrap in the middle!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2008, 12:35:07 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 03, 2008, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: Whacker on October 03, 2008, 09:58:35 AM
Very well written  :P

is there anywhere giving the handicap on the cross match?

Is that a piece from the boul Corn then?  Nice piece but I hate to see articles like that when we should be going in under the radar. 

Yis don't have a hope Benny. That better?

On a serious note, what's this Harps minor team like? Has there been a lot expected of them all year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 03, 2008, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on October 03, 2008, 11:57:45 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 03, 2008, 01:13:00 AM
Cuchulainns beat middletown 2nite in the intermediate play off. They play gort na mona on sunday at casement at the same time the harps and ogs are playing in armagh, leaving 6 lads a choice of ulster hurling semi or club football semi, surely this could be avoided.

Whos the six lads i know of coulter, turley barton and gribben who's the other two??

Excellent win last nite for cuchulainns, a nice wee scrap in the middle!!

Joe Quigley and Apple Gribben. Think the hurling is def going ahead on Sunday - disgraceful
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2008, 12:40:44 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 03, 2008, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on October 03, 2008, 11:57:45 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 03, 2008, 01:13:00 AM
Cuchulainns beat middletown 2nite in the intermediate play off. They play gort na mona on sunday at casement at the same time the harps and ogs are playing in armagh, leaving 6 lads a choice of ulster hurling semi or club football semi, surely this could be avoided.

Whos the six lads i know of coulter, turley barton and gribben who's the other two??

Excellent win last nite for cuchulainns, a nice wee scrap in the middle!!

Joe Quigley and Apple Gribben. Think the hurling is def going ahead on Sunday - disgraceful

Is that the Ulster club intermediate championship? Do Armagh have a team in the intermediate and the senior then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on October 03, 2008, 12:55:27 PM
Armagh have teams in Ulster Senior, Intermediate and Junior now.  I'd say the ulster championship match has been fixed for that date from early in the year, they'll never change it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 03, 2008, 01:42:45 PM
I do son - and they wont be either!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 03, 2008, 02:14:54 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2008, 12:35:07 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 03, 2008, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: Whacker on October 03, 2008, 09:58:35 AM
Very well written  :P

is there anywhere giving the handicap on the cross match?

Is that a piece from the boul Corn then?  Nice piece but I hate to see articles like that when we should be going in under the radar. 

Yis don't have a hope Benny. That better?

On a serious note, what's this Harps minor team like? Has there been a lot expected of them all year?
Minors are good but not great,  We had a few very tight games with Granemore this year - that we came out the wrong side of on each ocassion, so that would give you some indication (I hear you were lucky enough to get past them?) I would have thought next year would have been more realistic for us as all but 2 starters are eligible again, but sure now we're there we might as well give it a go!  Gives a shocker of a day tomorrow so it could be anybody's game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on October 03, 2008, 02:32:16 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on October 03, 2008, 09:30:16 AM
From The Irish News

Harps capable of an upset against Cross Lucozade Armagh Senior Football Championship
By Niall McCoy
03/10/08

THE Athletic Grounds will have a new look for

Sunday's Armagh Senior Football Championship semi-finals and Charlie Vernon is hoping that Armagh Harps can prevent the same old story on the pitch.

Crossmaglen Rangers, the dominant force of Armagh football, are aiming for their 13th consecutive final and are odds-on favourites to overcome a side who were relegated from Division One this season.

But the City side have shown a different pedigree in this year's Championship and a seven-point victory over an improving

Carrickcruppen side in the first round was followed by a gritty, hard-working two-point victory over Mullaghabawn in the quarter-final.

Vernon missed that game through injury, but should be fit to take the field on Sunday and, after a successful first season in the Armagh starting 15, he is sure to have a pivotal role in proceedings.

"I missed the match because I went over on my ankle two nights before the game, but the guys showed character, especially when Mullaghbawn got their goal.

"We finished the game well and we are hopeful for Sunday. There is no point going on to the field if you don't give yourself a chance."

Collie Holmes also missed the Mullaghbawn match, but for different reasons. The midfielder was on county duty and went on to claim All-Ireland glory with Tyrone.

His return to the team is significant, because Crossmaglen's midfield performances have been slightly shy of their own extremely high standards in the odd League match and also in their first round Championship match against Dromintee.

If Holmes, Vernon and Gareth Swift can win enough possession to feed into their dangerous

full-forward line, they may have a chance.

"Having Collie back is a great boost; he is a leader and a great motivator. Obviously, like all games, the middle is going to be important.

"If we can win enough ball there the forwards will have a chance – but, against Cross, you need to take all your chances."

One of the most prominent forwards for Harps this year has been Kevin Kelly.

The full-forward is an injury concern for the match and is rated 50/50 to feature in their first semi-final since 2004 and, if he was unable to play, it would be a massive blow for the side.

"Kevin has been in excellent form this year. We really need him fit, because his free taking is

always good as well.

"We have good players throughout the team and we all need to play well."

The club are celebrating their 120th anniversary this year and relegation was not a part of the

celebratory plans, but Vernon is hoping there may be a celebration for a different anniversary – 50 years ago they won the Championship and they defeated Crossmaglen along the way.

"Obviously, it was tough going down when we were celebrating 120 years.

"The boys will hopefully re-group and we can get back up where we feel we belong.

"Cross's record speaks for itself and everything has to go right for us, but, if we take our chances, we will be in with a shout."

Crossmaglen are still without Brendan McKeown, but David McKenna may play some part after missing the Dromintee match and the rout of Clann na Gael in the quarter-final with a hand injury.

Vernon knows that, even with injuries, Crossmaglen will still field a formidable 15.

"The grounds may be done up and it is nice to be at the Athletic Grounds, because it was the scene of many Harps' triumphs, but, at the end of the day, it is just a pitch and we have to go out there and be the better team."




Great article, very well written
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 03, 2008, 03:11:07 PM
Quote from: gander on October 03, 2008, 12:55:27 PM
Armagh have teams in Ulster Senior, Intermediate and Junior now.  I'd say the ulster championship match has been fixed for that date from early in the year, they'll never change it.

sure what harm is there in re-fixing if for middle of next week under lights either at Casement or the gaelic field?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on October 03, 2008, 03:40:29 PM
just been confirmed that the cuchulainn game is still on this sunday, its been scheldued since last november.
Just a bit of bad luck players having to choose what game to play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on October 03, 2008, 04:42:21 PM
I dont think theres any harm in it at all, but I just know what the ulster council are like when it comes to refixing championship matches.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 04, 2008, 12:05:32 AM
QuoteWe had a few very tight games with Granemore this year - that we came out the wrong side of on each ocassion, so that would give you some indication (I hear you were lucky enough to get past them?)

Well I missed the first half because I was at another match but I suppose we could have been described as slightly fortunate in that Granemore didn't make best use of a lot of their possession and failed to deal with fairly basic long range frees into the goal area from which we got 2 goals in the 2nd half and another point which bounced over the bar. Thought they were two evenly match teams which would suggest tomorrow could be close as well. Certainly we'd be very hopeful.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 04, 2008, 03:30:08 PM
Harps beat Cullyhanna in the minor semi 2-8 to 1-9 ;D  Delighted but frustrated as I couldn't get (and mightn't get tomorrow due to getting my tonsils out last week and have picked up an infection - f**king agony)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on October 04, 2008, 04:22:01 PM
bridge and culloville match has been called off. pitch unplayable
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 04, 2008, 04:25:24 PM
Cross minors beat St Peters 3-10 to 1-9.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 04, 2008, 04:35:22 PM
QuoteHarps beat Cullyhanna in the minor semi 2-8 to 1-9   Delighted but frustrated as I couldn't get (and mightn't get tomorrow due to getting my tonsils out last week and have picked up an infection - f**king agony)

Fair play to Harps, probably just about deserved it in the end. Very enjoyable game though it was shockin disappointing to lose. The game was dominated by the conditions and it was probably the team which made the fewest mistakes that won. Both team got a goal from long high balls into the danger area but St Pat's will probably feel they should have cleared prior to Harps' second goal. When we went 1-4 to 0-2 after about 15 minutes we should have gone on to press home the advantage but instead we didn't score again until 5 minutes into the second half by which stage Harps were 2 ahead.

The quality was probably as high as you could expect in the circumstances. Two fully committed teams going out to do their best. It was just a pity we couldn't get the late score to force it to extra time (I think?).  The only sour note in the whole game was a shameful piece of diving with about 5 minutes to go in an attempt to get a Cullyhanna man sent off. Apart from that the game was played in an excellent spirit. All the best to Harps and hopefully they'll go on to win the championship. The final result was tough on St Pat's but hopefully a lot of the lads can bounce back next year.

Bit of a disaster with the intermediate semi final being called off. Its a pity the decision wasn't made a bit earlier so that the game could have been switched to somewhere like Cruppen. There's word of it being re-fixed for tomorrow though there was no decision by the time I left the club. The final is fixed for next week and this date needs to be kept as one of the players involved in the final is likely to be headed out with the Ireland side to Australia the following Friday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on October 04, 2008, 07:17:02 PM
ARMAGH SFC SEMI-FINALS BROADCAST LIVE ON SUNDAY

Both the Armagh Senior Football Championship semi-finals will be broadcast live on Radio FIVE FM on Sunday.

Killeavey and Pearse Og begins at 2.00pm followed by commentary of the Crossmaglen and Armagh Harps tie which gets underway at 4.00pm.
Commentator for both games will be Damian McCullough with analysis by Martin Watters.

www.orchardcounty.com
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 04, 2008, 09:04:12 PM
tac
Quote
Bit of a disaster with the intermediate semi final being called off. Its a pity the decision wasn't made a bit earlier so that the game could have been switched to somewhere like Cruppen. There's word of it being re-fixed for tomorrow though there was no decision by the time I left the club. The final is fixed for next week and this date needs to be kept as one of the players involved in the final is likely to be headed out with the Ireland side to Australia the following Friday.
It doesn't need to be anything, if you're going to have players missing that's unfortunate but it's your own problem.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 04, 2008, 11:27:52 PM
the game is on saturday week and then the final is the following sat the day the ireland team flys out.ciaran mc keever is staying to play for is club and flying out on the monday thats what the club means to him fair play to him everone needs to stand up and take a look at what this lad does. no worry about the bridge missing players going to play for ireland they cant even get a player on to the armagh team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 04, 2008, 11:41:23 PM
Quote from: back off the net on October 04, 2008, 11:27:52 PM
the game is on saturday week and then the final is the following sat the day the ireland team flys out.ciaran mc keever is staying to play for is club and flying out on the monday thats what the club means to him fair play to him everone needs to stand up and take a look at what this lad does. no worry about the bridge missing players going to play for ireland they cant even get a player on to the armagh team
Good stuff, I can't wait to see him against the Aussies.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 04, 2008, 11:59:47 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on October 04, 2008, 07:17:02 PM
ARMAGH SFC SEMI-FINALS BROADCAST LIVE ON SUNDAY

Both the Armagh Senior Football Championship semi-finals will be broadcast live on Radio FIVE FM on Sunday.

Killeavey and Pearse Og begins at 2.00pm followed by commentary of the Crossmaglen and Armagh Harps tie which gets underway at 4.00pm.
Commentator for both games will be Damian McCullough with analysis by Martin Watters.

www.orchardcounty.com

Not a fuckin chance i'll be tunin in then
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Old Bill on October 05, 2008, 02:32:31 AM
Quote from: back off the net on October 04, 2008, 11:27:52 PM
the game is on saturday week and then the final is the following sat the day the ireland team flys out.ciaran mc keever is staying to play for is club and flying out on the monday thats what the club means to him fair play to him everone needs to stand up and take a look at what this lad does. no worry about the bridge missing players going to play for ireland they cant even get a player on to the armagh team
Didnt think mc keever had been picked on the ireland panel as it hasn been named yet!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 05, 2008, 09:58:13 AM
Good to see Cross minors have kinda floated into the Final without much fuss.  Much ahs been posted on here about the Cullyhannas and the Granemores and the Harps so Cross must have come throught the much easier side of the draw.  I would presume that Harps would be favourites to make it a senior and Minor double now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 05, 2008, 09:59:25 AM
Good One BC ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 05, 2008, 10:08:17 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on October 05, 2008, 09:59:25 AM
Good One BC ;D ;D ;D


What? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 05, 2008, 11:31:32 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 05, 2008, 09:58:13 AM
Good to see Cross minors have kinda floated into the Final without much fuss.  Much ahs been posted on here about the Cullyhannas and the Granemores and the Harps so Cross must have come throught the much easier side of the draw.  I would presume that Harps would be favourites to make it a senior and Minor double now?
I think it would be fair to say Cross came through the easier side of the draw, I think they beat Grange,  Corrinshego, Maghery? & St Peters.  We beat Sarsfields, Ogs, Cruppen & Cullyhanna.  They are in the final nonetheless and Harps will sure as f**k not be taking them lightly.  I think I'd be right in saying both teams would have fancied their chances more next year as both have young teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 05, 2008, 02:56:00 PM
any updates?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: puskas on October 05, 2008, 03:37:38 PM
Ogs beat Killeavy by 2. sounded like a good game. ogs squandered about 4 goal chances. mckinney made 2 terrific saves. killeavy hit the post in the last minute.

damien mccullagh is a hilarious commentator. in a good way.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on October 05, 2008, 03:48:35 PM
Anyone know the score in the cruppin v tones match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: puskas on October 05, 2008, 04:41:22 PM
cross 1-7 harps 0-3 at half-time, cross playing with strong breeze, convert a penalty after 3 mins, harps miss a penalty after 20 mins.

come on harps give it a rattle
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 05, 2008, 04:58:28 PM
A good win today for the Ogs 0-13 to 0-9 the final score.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 05, 2008, 05:03:55 PM
1-10 cross 0-8 harps 15 mins left

Harps missed a penalty on the first half
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 05, 2008, 05:15:15 PM
1-12 to 1-8 joe quigley just got a goal
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on October 05, 2008, 06:09:27 PM
Any other club results in Armagh today?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 05, 2008, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: puskas on October 05, 2008, 03:37:38 PM
Ogs beat Killeavy by 2. sounded like a good game. ogs squandered about 4 goal chances. mckinney made 2 terrific saves. killeavy hit the post in the last minute.

damien mccullagh is a hilarious commentator. in a good way.

No, in a very bad way. i used think he was just the village idiot but now i get angry when i listen to that crap and realise what a great resource local match commentaries could be for people if this idiot wasn't ruining it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 05, 2008, 06:30:52 PM
cruppen beat tones 0-11 to 0-8 terrible game should have stayed in bed!!cruppen looked like a team that didnt want to go up.their mf kelly was sent off for striking in the first half.  we only had 18 players at the game norm have around 25 a few boys "sick" suppose that what you get when have nothing play for.  we have an excellent defence but our forwards are clean scrap

whitecross beat keady 4-15 1-6 or something suppose that confirms their relegation and portadown beat clann eireann

i would fear bigtime for the two teams going up to the 1st weather be ortadown/cruppen sarsfields from what i have saw this year.thought sarsfields where the best outta 3 but was men against boys against cullyhanna last week and they dont have much of a squad and where very fortunate with injuries

ogs kileavey game was quite scrappy i thought.anytime ogs got ball to clarke he was  a danger.stevy operated at mf for most of the game missed a great goal chance 1 on 1 with mckinney about ten mins into 2nd half with ogs 2 up.

jj clarke showed well when came on got couple good scores

cross game thought was over when they got a dubious penalty.defender appeared to be fouled in square lost possession and pen was awarded.it was saved by mcsorley but t kernan scored rebound after missing initial effort.  harps awared a pen after 20 mins kevin kelly missed it, he wont sleep welll tonight had a mare.scored around 1 free from 5/6 includig a relatively esy 1 with 4 in it in 2nd half.  

vernon,swift and richards dominated middle in 2nd half.swift always impresses me in half forward line when see him play scored couple great points would like see him get more gametime in league next year.  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 05, 2008, 06:49:25 PM
heard there was a bit of controversy at the end of the Harps game (app the harps were robbed!!!) anyone care to elaborate? wasn't at the match myself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 05, 2008, 06:52:11 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 05, 2008, 06:49:25 PM
heard there was a bit of controversy at the end of the Harps game (app the harps were robbed!!!) anyone care to elaborate? wasn't at the match myself

Joe Quigley had a 14 yard free - it was goal or nothing. Joe hit the shot, it deflected off a defender and over the line. I'm not sure, but the deflection may be the key here, as the ref blew for full time before the ball had crossed but after Joe had shot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 05, 2008, 06:57:39 PM
That was grossly unfair. A replay should be called for.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 05, 2008, 07:03:34 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 05, 2008, 06:57:39 PM
That was grossly unfair. A replay should be called for.

If you're serious, then no way - final whistle has gone and it's done!

If you're taking the mick, then piss off Orior!    ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 05, 2008, 07:06:50 PM
Just goes to show how poor clanns where/are.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 05, 2008, 07:13:20 PM
Final score was 1-13 to 1-10.  Firstly congrats to Cross who are simply a better alround team, but Harps can be very proud of their performance, especially in the second half and only for some wayward shooting in the first half we would have been in with a real shout.  

I felt Cross tried to win this game in third gear, it nearly came back to bite them in the ass as we thought we'd scored a goal with the last kick of the game - defintely debatable, most people I spoke to thought it was over the line, I wasn't so sure myself but even so a Cross defender lifted the ball clean off the ground in the ensuing panic and it should have been another penalty at the very least.

The injury of Philly McKinney in training on Friday night was a cruel blow for us, the run of luck we've had with injuries lately has been deadly, today we also had Vernon and Kevin Kelly playing when nowhere near 100% fit.  It didn't look good for us at half time when we were going in 1-7 to 0-3 behind, but we outscored Cross 1-6 to 5 points in the second half with some glorious points from play from Nippy(2), Joe Quigley, Sean Morrison and Kevin Kelly.  

I cant let the Ref's performance pass without comment, I can never recall a game where so many neutrals were saying that the ref gave us absolutely nothing.  We certainly didn't help ourselves in the first half with some bad decision making in defence but Cross's first 1-5 were a penalty and 5 frees and he never let up.

Cross undoubtedly have more gears to go up into but after watching today I'd have to say Cross could be there for the taking by the Ogs (if they find a MF), there are weaklinks in the Cross team- mainly in defence, although they do have serious talent to come back in for the final.  I thought Bellew was cleaned out today, I dont recall him winning one ball of either Kevin Kelly (who got 0-2 from play of him) or Sean Morrison, he also should have been red carded for a straight punch at Kelly.   JD looked good going forward for Cross but Nippy got at least 0-2 (maybe 3) of him and was one contender for our MOTM.  Joe quigley also scored 1-2 from play of the CB Carragher??

Ultimately a very dissappointing outcome but a lot of positives to take into next year - f**king unbelieavable that we got relegated ???

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: puskas on October 05, 2008, 07:24:25 PM
Quote from: The GAA on October 05, 2008, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: puskas on October 05, 2008, 03:37:38 PM
Ogs beat Killeavy by 2. sounded like a good game. ogs squandered about 4 goal chances. mckinney made 2 terrific saves. killeavy hit the post in the last minute.

damien mccullagh is a hilarious commentator. in a good way.

No, in a very bad way. i used think he was just the village idiot but now i get angry when i listen to that crap and realise what a great resource local match commentaries could be for people if this idiot wasn't ruining it

i honestly didn't think he was that bad, granted it was the first time i'd heard his commentary. Maybe because his reputation precedes him and i was expecting a lot worse. or maybe i'm just in the 'go easy on him, he's just the village idiot' phase, he was pretty funny though, with lads in the press box telling him what the score is and who the sub was, then again he was saying the programme print was so small u'd need a magnifying glass to read it and the scoeboard was hard to read in the sunlight. his enthusiasm is hard to beat though and he makes the play sound exciting. he seemed to get most of the calls right too. let me put this way, i'd have him over ger canning and marty morrissey any day but that's not saying much I suppose.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 05, 2008, 07:41:14 PM
Harps were a bit unlucky not to get a draw which they deserved on their second half display.
I thought our penalty award should have been a free out to harps but overall he evened it out with a few decisions against us in the second half which led to scores for harps including their goal. ( John Mac clearly got a push in the back which carried him over the sideline and the harps goal came from the resultant line ball.)
Harps were unlucky to get relegated and no doubt will be straight back up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 05, 2008, 07:55:26 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on October 05, 2008, 07:03:34 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 05, 2008, 06:57:39 PM
That was grossly unfair. A replay should be called for.

If you're serious, then no way - final whistle has gone and it's done!

If you're taking the mick, then piss off Orior!    ;D

Everybody knows that Hearty cant get in the way of anything!  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bud on October 05, 2008, 10:58:36 PM
how'd cross lineout?
See Tony K hit the peno, was there no Oisin?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 06, 2008, 12:02:45 AM
The half time score flattered Cross, but they were well ahead on the scoreboard and they didn't quite press on in the second half. Harps gave them more food for thought than Dromintee or Clans. From my perspective the ball did not cross the line from the final 14m free, but it was only a few mm away. In the incident between Francie and Kelly, I think Kelly hooked Francie's arm, Francie threw the elbow back to free himself and Kelly fell like a Tyrone man. 

Who was scrapping after the final whistle as the teams went back to the tunnel?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 06, 2008, 01:01:58 AM
Quote from: AFS on October 05, 2008, 07:55:02 PM
my take on it would've been that Kelly went down very easily and there wasn't a lot of intentional contact. I don't think Francie is the type to be throwing punches like that, even if he was up to a few of his other dark tricks today. 

Quote from: armaghniac on October 06, 2008, 12:02:45 AM
In the incident between Francie and Kelly, I think Kelly hooked Francie's arm, Francie threw the elbow back to free himself and Kelly fell like a Tyrone man. 

Right so. The whole Kelly family, including Kevin, are personal friends of mine. I was talking to Kevin tonight, and he is sporting a serious shiner. How he got this is backed up by the video evidence that we watched in the Harps Club tonight!   >:( >:( >:(

I am not coming on here looking retribution against any one individual! This is Championship football, and this is what happens. However, I will not let a personal friend of mine have his character assissinated with implications of diving. If necessary I will put my own name to what I have said here and see if others follow suit!   >:( >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on October 06, 2008, 07:49:48 AM
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Quote from: BenDover on October 05, 2008, 06:49:25 PM
heard there was a bit of controversy at the end of the Harps game (app the harps were robbed!!!) anyone care to elaborate? wasn't at the match myself


Joe Quigley had a 14 yard free - it was goal or nothing. Joe hit the shot, it deflected off a defender and over the line. I'm not sure, but the deflection may be the key here, as the ref blew for full time before the ball had crossed but after Joe had shot.

actually there are grounds for an appeal here. reference-tyrone underage game where the exact thing happened. appeal was lodged and accepted.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Handy on October 06, 2008, 08:55:16 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on October 06, 2008, 01:01:58 AM
Quote from: AFS on October 05, 2008, 07:55:02 PM
my take on it would've been that Kelly went down very easily and there wasn't a lot of intentional contact. I don't think Francie is the type to be throwing punches like that, even if he was up to a few of his other dark tricks today. 

Quote from: armaghniac on October 06, 2008, 12:02:45 AM
In the incident between Francie and Kelly, I think Kelly hooked Francie's arm, Francie threw the elbow back to free himself and Kelly fell like a Tyrone man. 

Right so. The whole Kelly family, including Kevin, are personal friends of mine. I was talking to Kevin tonight, and he is sporting a serious shiner. How he got this is backed up by the video evidence that we watched in the Harps Club tonight!   >:( >:( >:(

I am not coming on here looking retribution against any one individual! This is Championship football, and this is what happens. However, I will not let a personal friend of mine have his character assissinated with implications of diving. If necessary I will put my own name to what I have said here and see if others follow suit!   >:( >:(

I saw the incident first hand - I could not believe the umpire didn't - someone beside me summed it up when he said - there isn't a official in the county will stand up to Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 06, 2008, 09:43:48 AM


I saw the incident first hand - I could not believe the umpire didn't - someone beside me summed it up when he said - there isn't a official in the county will stand up to Cross.
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UNFORTUNATELY, tis is so true and any one who trys and dispute this is either blind or a cross man,

im sure the cross ones on the board will agree that they have been gifted some decisions by refs down through the years as well as having a great team

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 06, 2008, 09:47:13 AM
It is unfortuante and although it woild not make much difference in most games they have got more than their fair share of favourable decisions from referees and a certain linesman. But, as I said, I can think of a Dromintee match were a big decision was not acted on as the linesman was afraifd that would have influenced the game and yesterdays goal (if it was as BBC are claiming). Other games it would not make a bit of difference.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 09:47:56 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on October 06, 2008, 09:43:48 AM


I saw the incident first hand - I could not believe the umpire didn't - someone beside me summed it up when he said - there isn't a official in the county will stand up to Cross.
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UNFORTUNATELY, tis is so true and any one who trys and dispute this is either blind or a cross man,

im sure the cross ones on the board will agree that they have been gifted some decisions by refs down through the years as well as having a great team


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I think it's something you could extend to county players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 06, 2008, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 05, 2008, 07:06:50 PM
Just goes to show how poor clanns where/are.




On another note Congrats to Cross and OG's and unlucky Harps and Killeavey...I hear they were 2 good games, unfortunately i couldn't make it up to the games...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on October 06, 2008, 10:06:22 AM
I was at the game, but i was to far away from the incident to see properly.  but what in will say is the Harps peno what charing offence & the goal they got was clearly a push in the back by the no.15. adding to that John McEntee was clearly pushed out over the line which lead to the goal & Tony McEntee has a nice shiner for his troubles after been hit off the ball. Also when did it become legal to allow a 4 man tackle?  I lost count the amount of times Harps were allowed to get away with this.  As for the Francie incident I was talking to a mate who was right behind the goals and seem what happened, the No.13 had been goading Francie for most of the 2nd half and he locked arms with Francie trying to get him to pull him down to get him booked & Francie just pushed him away & he fell.  So the point is cross don't get it all there own way when it comes to refs. regarding a re-fixture if i were Harps I keep wondering of the what if, because if there was to be a reply they would get shown up bigtime as has happened in replays before.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 06, 2008, 10:11:37 AM
Quote from: goh4205 on October 06, 2008, 10:06:22 AM
I was at the game, but i was to far away from the incident to see properly.  but what in will say is the Harps peno what charing offence & the goal they got was clearly a push in the back by the no.15. adding to that John McEntee was clearly pushed out over the line which lead to the goal & Tony McEntee has a nice shiner for his troubles after been hit off the ball. Also when did it become legal to allow a 4 man tackle?  I lost count the amount of times Harps were allowed to get away with this.  As for the Francie incident I was talking to a mate who was right behind the goals and seem what happened, the No.13 had been goading Francie for most of the 2nd half and he locked arms with Francie trying to get him to pull him down to get him booked & Francie just pushed him away & he fell.  So the point is cross don't get it all there own way when it comes to refs. regarding a re-fixture if i were Harps I keep wondering of the what if, because if there was to be a reply they would get shown up bigtime as has happened in replays before.


Probabably shows that most incidents even themselves out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 06, 2008, 10:28:25 AM
Quote from: goh4205 on October 06, 2008, 10:06:22 AM
 As for the Francie incident I was talking to a mate who was right behind the goals and seem what happened, the No.13 had been goading Francie for most of the 2nd half and he locked arms with Francie trying to get him to pull him down to get him booked & Francie just pushed him away & he fell.  

There's video evidence to the contrary friendo.  Goading?  If you knew the fella you'd realise how laughable that is.  Hate to drop to pettiness but maybe the fact that Bellew never won a ball all day was frustrating him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 06, 2008, 11:56:52 AM
Was the Intermediate Semi Between The Bridge and Culloville played this weekend, How did it go?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 06, 2008, 11:59:28 AM
called off - rain.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on October 06, 2008, 11:59:53 AM
Good second half performance from the Harps yesterday, if only they had of believed in themselves more in the first half.

The last 15 minutes there was only 1 team in it. Mc Kenna came on and made a wonderful catch to secure possession when the game was in the balance. I thought Nippy swift & collie holmes were excellent yesterday, vernon came into it towards the end. And young morrison in FF was absolutely excellent. I thought the Harps really did themselves proud yesterday, that said the standard of refereeing and umpires in this county is appalling. That wee bollix yesterday did his best to ruin the game. As for the umpire, (aka monkey boy, where did they find that inbreed under-developed stage 2 of the evolution process GIMP) Bellew busted young kevin kelly not 2 feet from his face and was'nt even booked, then he disallowed the goal. Harps had cross ratteled, the goal should have stood it was  clearly over the line.
The level of bias towards cross in the county is unbelievable, actually it must be a Sth Armagh thing, because the Ogs got nothing from the ref in the previous game. Ronan clarke will cause havoc in that cross fb line.

Up the Harps :o

Rant over

BTW the athletic grounds is fantastastic, congrats to all concerned
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on October 06, 2008, 12:01:06 PM
Well done to the Harps minors reaching the county final

ah shit, its against cross  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 06, 2008, 12:01:49 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 06, 2008, 11:59:28 AM
called off - rain.

When is it going to be played? Wasnt the Junior and Intermediate finals to be played next weekend
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 06, 2008, 12:07:01 PM
Felt sorry for the Harps yesterday. Cracking 2nd half perofrmance. But as a neutral I think they have every right to feel agrieved with the performance from the officialS - including linesmen & umpires!

I don't think there are too many 50 - 50 decsions that went in their favour (bar Collie Holmes giving JD the knee's at the touchline)
Harps just had to work that bit harder for theiur scores in the end though & the best team did win!

The first game was more like a meaningless end of season league encounter. Best team won in the end, thanks to the Clarke brothers & Geard Barton who impressed. Don't recall one hard tackle though (bar a little scuffle between Stevie & Barton.)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on October 06, 2008, 12:13:41 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 06, 2008, 12:01:49 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 06, 2008, 11:59:28 AM
called off - rain.

When is it going to be played? Wasnt the Junior and Intermediate finals to be played next weekend

yeah it was supposed to be a double header but its just the junior now.  The intermediate semi will be played next sat with the final played the following week.  Not sure if it on the sat or sunday though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on October 06, 2008, 12:31:41 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 06, 2008, 10:28:25 AM
Quote from: goh4205 on October 06, 2008, 10:06:22 AM
 As for the Francie incident I was talking to a mate who was right behind the goals and seem what happened, the No.13 had been goading Francie for most of the 2nd half and he locked arms with Francie trying to get him to pull him down to get him booked & Francie just pushed him away & he fell.  

There's video evidence to the contrary friendo.  Goading?  If you knew the fella you'd realise how laughable that is.  Hate to drop to pettiness but maybe the fact that Bellew never won a ball all day was frustrating him.

Benny  I'm not taking any side I just pointed out some of the stuff I saw. Corn is probably right it sort of evens itself out in the end. What I will say about that lad kelly is, I was talking to a friend this morning who was/is close to the Harps and he said he was a yap!!   He was right beside were it happened and in no way did Bellew strike him with intent, all he tried to do was get kelly off him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 06, 2008, 12:39:30 PM
Who's in the junior final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 06, 2008, 01:07:11 PM
THEIR two teams may have been engaged in one of the best rivalries of recent times, but Tyrone manager Mickey Harte and current Ulster manager Joe Kernan will team up to manage an Allstar team that will face Armagh in a charity match.

Joe may have gotten one over Mickey in 02 while the Red Hand boss gained revenge in 03 and 05, but the duo will be plotting the downfall of Peter McDonnell and the current Ulster champions.
The event is being held in Dromintee on Saturday, October 18 and a host of big names will be lining out for the Allstar side including Justin McMahon, Brian Dooher, Graham Geraghty, Kieran McGeeney, Eamon O'Hara, Marty McGrath, Oisin McConville, Darren Clarke and Kevin McGourty.
A number of past greats, including Joe Brolly, Benny Tierney, Colm O'Rourke and Jimmy Smith, will also be there to take part or to offer their expertise through the microphone.

A number of other personalities, including Irish rugby international Rob Kearney, will also be present on the day and a 'nite-of-the-races' and charity auction, which will auction off a number of signed jerseys amongst other items, will follow the game.

Justin McMahon is a busy man at present after his impressive display in the All-Ireland final, but he is more than happy to help out on the day. Speaking from the launch in Belfast, the Omagh St Enda's man stressed the importance of the cause.

"It is great to see GAA players involved in such events," he said. "When you come to these things you realise how important these things are when tragedies like this affect GAA clubs. There has been a lot of great organisation involved.

McMahon is still on a high after their final triumph over Kerry but is glad to getting straight back into the action as his side face up to Dromore in the WJ Dolan SFC this Sunday.

"I was back up in Belfast this week so things calmed down a wee bit. We will have to keep our feet on the ground because Dromore will prove tough opposition. We just have to give the club championship a rattle and see how things go."

Armagh's Gareth O'Neill is delighted to see such a high calibre of players lining out in his home club.

"It is a great cause and hopefully the crowds will respond to it because there are some superb footballers travelling from all over the country."

It will only be the second time Armagh have lined out in Dromintee and they will provide fitting opposition to the Allstar team as the south Armagh club have five members on the county panel – O'Neill, Aidan O'Rourke, Martin O'Rourke, Micheal O'Rourke and Barry Shannon – the largest representation in the club's history.

"It will be a great day for the club," said O'Neill. "But it is more about raising the funds for such a good cause and it will be a great day's craic all round. I am expecting a big crowd and hopefully the day gets the support it deserves."

The match has been organised in memory of Gerald Fearon who was killed in a car crash two years ago. Admission is by voluntary donation and all proceeds will go to the Irish Air Ambulance service. Throw in is at 6.30pm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Handy on October 06, 2008, 01:25:05 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on October 06, 2008, 12:31:41 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 06, 2008, 10:28:25 AM
Quote from: goh4205 on October 06, 2008, 10:06:22 AM
 As for the Francie incident I was talking to a mate who was right behind the goals and seem what happened, the No.13 had been goading Francie for most of the 2nd half and he locked arms with Francie trying to get him to pull him down to get him booked & Francie just pushed him away & he fell.  

There's video evidence to the contrary friendo.  Goading?  If you knew the fella you'd realise how laughable that is.  Hate to drop to pettiness but maybe the fact that Bellew never won a ball all day was frustrating him.

Benny  I'm not taking any side I just pointed out some of the stuff I saw. Corn is probably right it sort of evens itself out in the end. What I will say about that lad kelly is, I was talking to a friend this morning who was/is close to the Harps and he said he was a yap!!   He was right beside were it happened and in no way did Bellew strike him with intent, all he tried to do was get kelly off him.

I saw the incident so I am not going on hearsay - Francie knew exactly what he was doing, he should of been given a straight red but the umpire shit himself!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donners on October 06, 2008, 01:35:34 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 06, 2008, 12:39:30 PM
Who's in the junior final?

The Grange and Middletown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on October 06, 2008, 01:52:05 PM
Went to both matches yesterday. A few observations:-
1. Ogs v Killeavy. Never thought Ogs were in real bother. Ronan Clarke played very well and his brother JJ looked a real player when he came on, although a little selfish. Why do Killeavy insist on playing Stevie in MidField. What a waste of scoring talent.
2. Harps v Cross. Good game with an exciting finish. Always thought that Cross looked as if they could step up a gear, but they never did. Was at the Dalton Road end so got to see most of the controversal incidents. Thought the Cross penalty was a penalty but that the Full Back should have got a free out before that. Quigley also pushed a defender on his way to scoring his goal. Francie should have been sent off. I thought the referee had lost his cards. Twice Francie pulled the forward down when he had him beaten. He should have had a yellow at the very least. As regards the incident with Kelly I thought as the ball was being played in Francie was holding Kelly back by the arm (could have been a pen) Kelly tried to pull his arm away to get past. In the tussle I definitely think Francie caught Kelly and would have warranted a yellow (the second I think he should have got) rather than a red. How Kelly got the telling off I do not know. The incident was in my opinion similar to when Tony McEntee got caught. As regards the final free I had a very good view. Quigley hit an excellent free but it was stopped by a defender on the line. The whistle was then blown. Match over.
Thought John Mac, Jamie Clarke and Tony Kernan were excellent for cross. For the Harps Gill at full back was very assured, Morrison played well at full forward as did Quigley. After his missed pen and frees Kelly showed great Character to play very well in the second half. However, my man of the match was Swift. If he played like that for Armagh he would never be off the team.
3. Other points.
The ground looked very well. However, some parents will need to look after their children a bit better. The County Board will also need to put some yellow tape or something on the barriers. I saw a young Cross fan run straight into a barrier and suffer a bad cut. ( well done to those who went to his aid also) Finally, I hope that fool who went for the Harps player after the game gets taken to task. Also hope it does not mean we need higher barriers around the pitch. Good to see Aaron Kernan trying to sort it out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on October 06, 2008, 02:33:24 PM
was at both matches myself.

The ogs as already pointed out were not in trouble at any stage in this match. when killeavy looked like they were getting back into it ogs just tagged on another score. they will have to improve on their shooting though if they are to have a chance at winning the title. think their defence is very good. all good footballers who can get out in front and also carry the ball.

The harps were unlucky in my view. they gave a good account of themselves in the second half. cross just shaded it and deserved their victory although it does seem that the officials favour them on occasions.

I believe that the best 2 teams in the county are now contesting the county final and it should be a cracker. both teams will need to improve from their last performance and at this stage you also need a little luck.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 03:02:17 PM
Goh - this morning
QuoteAs for the Francie incident I was talking to a mate who was right behind the goals and seem what happened, the No.13 had been goading Francie for most of the 2nd half and he locked arms with Francie trying to get him to pull him down to get him booked & Francie just pushed him away & he fell.

Goh - later this morning
QuoteBenny  I'm not taking any side I just pointed out some of the stuff I saw. Corn is probably right it sort of evens itself out in the end. What I will say about that lad kelly is, I was talking to a friend this morning who was/is close to the Harps and he said he was a yap!!   He was right beside were it happened and in no way did Bellew strike him with intent, all he tried to do was get kelly off him.

The first post suggests that kelly was goading Francie, Francie pushed him away and Kelly dived.  However your second  (by the way you haven't pointed out anything you saw you're relying on a "mate's" version of events) suggests that Bellew struck but not with intent  ???  Which is it?
Oh and Kelly is a yap?  What has that got to do with anything, what relevance has that?

C'mon GOH I think you're a better poster than that.


Berf
QuoteThe level of bias towards cross in the county is unbelievable, actually it must be a Sth Armagh thing, because the Ogs got nothing from the ref in the previous game.
FFS don't start that shite.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 06, 2008, 03:31:17 PM
Quote from: bubbles on October 06, 2008, 02:33:24 PM

I believe that the best 2 teams in the county are now contesting the county final and it should be a cracker. both teams will need to improve from their last performance and at this stage you also need a little luck.


Very debatable bubbles, the Ogs should take confidence from the games yesterday but not get carried away. I dont think the Ogs are any better than the Harps or Dromintee and are contesting their second county final in a row without having played either Dromintee, Clans or Harps in that 2 year championship period.  I'd dare most of these teams would have made the Co finals with the draws the Ogs have had these last 2 seasons.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on October 06, 2008, 03:39:24 PM
im going on the league table as well. the ogs came second in the league the past 2 seasons as well as the 2 county finals.

everyone has their opinion i suppose. dont want to get into an argument of whose the second best team.

should be a good game and hope the ogs win it as it will give all the other teams in the county a huge lift
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 03:42:25 PM
Quoteshould be a good game and hope the ogs win it as it will give all the other teams in the county a huge lift
I think the worrying thing from a Cross point of view is that the Ogs have seen cross rattled yesterday and are probably (or should be) confident they can do the same.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 06, 2008, 03:50:25 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 06, 2008, 03:31:17 PM
Quote from: bubbles on October 06, 2008, 02:33:24 PM

I believe that the best 2 teams in the county are now contesting the county final and it should be a cracker. both teams will need to improve from their last performance and at this stage you also need a little luck.


Very debatable bubbles, the Ogs should take confidence from the games yesterday but not get carried away. I dont think the Ogs are any better than the Harps or Dromintee and are contesting their second county final in a row without having played either Dromintee, Clans or Harps in that 2 year championship period.  I'd dare most of these teams would have made the Co finals with the draws the Ogs have had these last 2 seasons.

I would tend to agree with bubles here benny. No one will debate top spot in the county but i think og's would just shade it now at number two. Whilst i admit the ogs would find it more difficult to beat the harps and Dromintee for example. I think they would still have came through these games. But i take on board what you are saying Benny about an easier draw. But as i say i think in terms of a solid team to challenge cross i think the og's are as close as we shall get.

Wasn't at the games yesterday but listened to them and from all those unbias posts :D ;) that have been put on here today. I have came to the conclusion that Harps were very unlucky and the og's won handy enough. Fair play to the Harps, the Cross destroyed us in the quarters and Harps after being relegated and all could have fallen the same way. But fair play to them they came out and gave it a rattle and in many ways have restored a bit of hope back in other teams. I would say yesterdays result has given the Og's a confidence boast ahead of the final. (Though if the harps thought this, they probably wouldn't have done this favour for the og's)  ;). I would think the og's would be confident if they were to meet the harps in the championship and seeing the Harps run Cross so close yesterday it will give them an extra edge.

But once again well done to the Cross (for an outstanding record that will never be beaten) and the Ogs who are bound to be hurting from last year. Good luck to both in the final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 06, 2008, 04:24:21 PM
Dont want to get into a 2nd best team argument either, but I'd still say Dromintee are and firmly believe they would have won at least an Ulster if they'd had've gotten past Cross on any ocassion.

I would be delighted if the Ogs beat Cross, not out of love for them, just time for a change and bit of new impetus in Armagh club football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 06, 2008, 04:39:57 PM
Surely Harps will come back up. I have seen Kelly play anumber of imes before and even marked him at minor - yet to see him "yap".
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on October 06, 2008, 04:51:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 03:02:17 PM
Goh - this morning
QuoteAs for the Francie incident I was talking to a mate who was right behind the goals and seem what happened, the No.13 had been goading Francie for most of the 2nd half and he locked arms with Francie trying to get him to pull him down to get him booked & Francie just pushed him away & he fell.

Goh - later this morning
QuoteBenny  I'm not taking any side I just pointed out some of the stuff I saw. Corn is probably right it sort of evens itself out in the end. What I will say about that lad kelly is, I was talking to a friend this morning who was/is close to the Harps and he said he was a yap!!   He was right beside were it happened and in no way did Bellew strike him with intent, all he tried to do was get kelly off him.

The first post suggests that kelly was goading Francie, Francie pushed him away and Kelly dived.  However your second  (by the way you haven't pointed out anything you saw you're relying on a "mate's" version of events) suggests that Bellew struck but not with intent  ???  Which is it?
Oh and Kelly is a yap?  What has that got to do with anything, what relevance has that?

C'mon GOH I think you're a better poster than that.


Berf
QuoteThe level of bias towards cross in the county is unbelievable, actually it must be a Sth Armagh thing, because the Ogs got nothing from the ref in the previous game.
FFS don't start that shite.

Pints  you can make whatever assumption you like, I am only saying what I saw and what I was told. to say that intent is striking is false and push could be interpreted as a strike, but is it.
The person who told me about this is an x Harps player and someone with a very honest view, this was also his view on what I said about Kelly been a yap and was always lying down.  So if thats his opinion as a Harps man, then what do most Cross & neutrals think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 05:04:44 PM
goh
QuotePints  you can make whatever assumption you like, I am only saying what I saw and what I was told. to say that intent is striking is false and push could be interpreted as a strike, but is it.
The person who told me about this is an x Harps player and someone with a very honest view, this was also his view on what I said about Kelly been a yap and was always lying down.  So if thats his opinion as a Harps man, then what do most Cross & neutrals think.
Did you see it or are you hearign this from someone else though?
The lad has a black eye, he didnt get that from a shove.  Whether there was intent or not is another thing but it's clear he got an elbow in the face and if you or me got Bellew's elbow in our face we'd lie down too!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 06, 2008, 07:16:21 PM
T'internet is great and I was able to "watch" the game through the eloquent tone of the bouncy man Damian.  It was interesting to say the least!  Great credit must go to FiveFM as exiles like me can heard top class commentary of top class games!

The game itself from listening and reading between the lines was a strange one.  Cross always seemed to have an extra gear to go into but never really made it.  They seemed to miss a few good changes in the first half which would have put the game beyond doubt as they would have been 11-12 up at half time.  While Haprs seemed to have to work extremely hard in the first half for scores Cross seemed able to create chances at will but simply didn't take them. 

I was eating dinner in the second half and could only get snippets of the game but Harps certainly seemd like they had the better of the  lads for periods but just when they were getting into range Cross always seemd to close them out and could always get the score they needed.  That is the sign of a great team but they do need to close the games out better. 

Obviously I didn't see the incidents with Francie etc so I can't comment on them.  Commentary did say that Cross seemed to get a few soft frees in the first half but also that Harps were beneficiaries of a few dodgy ones as well.  Gary Smith was close to Damian and shook his head in dismay a few times apparently!  refs make good and bad decisions over the course of a game and seldom are the reason behind a team winning or losing.  It seems he told Quigley it had to go straight and as soon as it hit another outfield player he made the right decision if he blew his whistle.

Anyway on to the Final and the Ogs.  After their seemingly confortable win, and Cross obviously having trouble it will likely be an all city double in minor and senior.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 06, 2008, 07:17:06 PM
Quoteyeah it was supposed to be a double header but its just the junior now.  The intermediate semi will be played next sat with the final played the following week.  Not sure if it on the sat or sunday though

The final will be played on the Saturday. There'll be extra time next week if the Bridge and Culloville draw. I assume the 2 clubs must have agreed to that.

Thought Ógs deserved their victory yesterday but if Killeavy could ever have gotten within a point they could have put them under serious pressure. They got back to within 2 at a number of stages but could never cut the deficit down the minimum.

Left the Cross match at half time so didn't see a lot of the controversy but I thought Harps were fortunate enough to get their penalty, particularly as the referee didn't seem to have a very good view of the incident.

Where is the future development for the athletic grounds planned. Will there be more seats on the seated side of the ground and is there a roof planned at any stage? Thought the place looked reasonable well though it doesn't seem intercounty championship standard yet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 08:33:36 PM
Quote
The final will be played on the Saturday. There'll be extra time next week if the Bridge and Culloville draw. I assume the 2 clubs must have agreed to that.

I wish we could get games arranged around when it suited us and when players would be available.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 06, 2008, 08:57:02 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 08:33:36 PM
Quote
The final will be played on the Saturday. There'll be extra time next week if the Bridge and Culloville draw. I assume the 2 clubs must have agreed to that.

I wish we could get games arranged around when it suited us and when players would be available.  ::)


Strange that the Culloville Silverbridge semi final wasn't fixed for the same weekend as the other semi final, as happened in both the Junior and Senior championships.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rolling stone on October 06, 2008, 09:15:39 PM
The lad Kelly is a yap-no doubt about it!

Sean Morrison impressed me, especially as his confidence started to grow. Although it's the first time I seen the young lad Clarke and thought he was the suprisingly the biggest threat for Cross. Makings of a good final if Og's can improve in midfield.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 09:24:50 PM
QuoteThe lad Kelly is a yap-no doubt about it!
Such mouthing about a young lad who's only crime was getting an elbow in the face.

Give it a f**king rest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 06, 2008, 09:44:07 PM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 12 OCTOBER 2008


Saturday 11 October

Intermediate Football Championship – Semi-Final (4.00)
Culloville v Silverbridge (Jimmy McKee) at Cullyhanna

Under-14 Football Championship – Final (4.00)
Killeavey v Pearse Og (Damian McConville) at Madden


Sunday 12 October

Junior Football Championship – Final (3.00)
Grange v Middletown (Ronan Quigley) at Athletic Grounds

ACL – Division Two (12.00)
Whitecross v Wolfe Tone (Tony O'Hare)
Granemore v Tir na nÓg (Malachy McNicholl)
Sarsfields v Clann Eireann (Barney Henry)

ACL – Division Three (12.00)
Annaghmore v Crossmaglen II (Jim Burns)
Madden v Ballyhegan (Kevin Gallogly)
Clonmore v Tullysaran (Seamus O'Neill)

ACL – Division Four (12.00)
Derrynoose v Corrinshego (Joe Murtagh)
Clady v Shane O'Neill's (Paudie Hughes)
O'Hanlon's v Mullaghbrack (Stephen Murray)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 06, 2008, 11:22:57 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 08:33:36 PM
Quote
The final will be played on the Saturday. There'll be extra time next week if the Bridge and Culloville draw. I assume the 2 clubs must have agreed to that.

I wish we could get games arranged around when it suited us and when players would be available.  ::)


Like getting your semi delayed a week because your lot had a stag on the intended weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 11:36:20 PM
Quote from: The GAA on October 06, 2008, 11:22:57 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 08:33:36 PM
Quote
The final will be played on the Saturday. There'll be extra time next week if the Bridge and Culloville draw. I assume the 2 clubs must have agreed to that.

I wish we could get games arranged around when it suited us and when players would be available.  ::)


Like getting your semi delayed a week because your lot had a stag on the intended weekend?
The game was never fixed and considering ogs and mullaghbawn couldn't get games postponed for a few days for deaths in their club do you think we'd be listened to talking about a stag?  Maybe it was delayed because Cullaville had an extra game to play?
Anyway, it's one thing to try and dictate your own fixtures but quite unusual to try and arrange the fixture between two other clubs.

Anyway, it's hardly that important.



But here, "the gaa", what club are you from yourself?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 07, 2008, 12:02:34 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 11:36:20 PM
Quote from: The GAA on October 06, 2008, 11:22:57 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 08:33:36 PM
Quote
The final will be played on the Saturday. There'll be extra time next week if the Bridge and Culloville draw. I assume the 2 clubs must have agreed to that.

I wish we could get games arranged around when it suited us and when players would be available.  ::)


Like getting your semi delayed a week because your lot had a stag on the intended weekend?
The game was never fixed and considering ogs and mullaghbawn couldn't get games postponed for a few days for deaths in their club do you think we'd be listened to talking about a stag?  Maybe it was delayed because Cullaville had an extra game to play?
Anyway, it's one thing to try and dictate your own fixtures but quite unusual to try and arrange the fixture between two other clubs.

Anyway, it's hardly that important.



But here, "the gaa", what club are you from yourself?

I think it was actually a wedding, albeit in a foreign country.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 07, 2008, 12:05:54 AM
I don't know who's wedding you're talking about but as i said:
QuoteThe game was never fixed and considering ogs and mullaghbawn couldn't get games postponed for a few days for deaths in their club do you think we'd be listened to talking about a stag?  Maybe it was delayed because Cullaville had an extra game to play?
Anyway, it's one thing to try and dictate your own fixtures but quite unusual to try and arrange the fixture between two other clubs.

and as I finished with:
QuoteAnyway, it's hardly that important.

Good to see the rumour mill is alive and well in Cullyhanna though  ::)
Have Cullyhanna never rearranged a fixture due to a wedding or stag?  ::)  ::)  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 07, 2008, 12:36:30 AM
Oh will this feud ever end?? :o :-\

On another note what age is that guy morrison for the harps??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 07, 2008, 12:41:07 AM
QuoteOh will this feud ever end??
What feud?  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 07, 2008, 08:55:39 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 07, 2008, 12:36:30 AM
Oh will this feud ever end?? :o :-\

On another note what age is that guy morrison for the harps??

Sean is about 22/23 I think.
Quote from: AFS on October 06, 2008, 10:14:42 PM

I didn't see Cross annihilate Clans but I've seen their other two championship games and from those I'd have to say they are a shadow of their former selves.
I was thinking something similar myself, but they could look make a man look foolish by stepping it up a gear or two very easily.  I dont think that they have the players of the calibre of the McEntees or MCConville coming through, they aren't getting any younger and when those boys and Bellew & JD go Cross will still be a top team but no longer 'invincible'.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 07, 2008, 09:35:36 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 06, 2008, 07:17:06 PM
Where is the future development for the athletic grounds planned. Will there be more seats on the seated side of the ground and is there a roof planned at any stage? Thought the place looked reasonable well though it doesn't seem intercounty championship standard yet.

There are plans passed for another tier of seats that will rise above the level of the athletic grounds
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 07, 2008, 09:43:02 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on October 07, 2008, 09:35:36 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 06, 2008, 07:17:06 PM
Where is the future development for the athletic grounds planned. Will there be more seats on the seated side of the ground and is there a roof planned at any stage? Thought the place looked reasonable well though it doesn't seem intercounty championship standard yet.

There are plans passed for another tier of seats that will rise above the level of the athletic grounds
There are plans but no immediate funding in place, so I wouldn't be suprised if there were delays.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on October 07, 2008, 10:18:12 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 07, 2008, 08:55:39 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 07, 2008, 12:36:30 AM
Oh will this feud ever end?? :o :-\

On another note what age is that guy morrison for the harps??

Sean is about 22/23 I think.
Quote from: AFS on October 06, 2008, 10:14:42 PM

I didn't see Cross annihilate Clans but I've seen their other two championship games and from those I'd have to say they are a shadow of their former selves.
I was thinking something similar myself, but they could look make a man look foolish by stepping it up a gear or two very easily.  I dont think that they have the players of the calibre of the McEntees or MCConville coming through, they aren't getting any younger and when those boys and Bellew & JD go Cross will still be a top team but no longer 'invincible'.

Is he a son of John Morrison?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 07, 2008, 11:07:48 AM
He is indeed, has an older brother Paddy, a huge lad who could do a job for us too if he got fully fit, seemed to be hampered by injuries most of this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 07, 2008, 11:09:05 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 07, 2008, 11:07:48 AM
He is indeed, has an older brother Paddy, a huge lad who could do a job for us too if he got fully fit, seemed to be hampered by injuries most of this year.

He used to be a great goalie!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on October 07, 2008, 11:48:23 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 09:24:50 PM
QuoteThe lad Kelly is a yap-no doubt about it!
Such mouthing about a young lad who's only crime was getting an elbow in the face.

Give it a f**king rest.

Is right, this is a joke some of the things being said about the poor lad. Not only did I see the incident with my own eyes, I also saw it on DVD in the Club on Sunday night. Bellew clearly struck Kevin off the ball when Cross were coming out of defence with the ball. He didn't draw back with his elbow trying to get Kevin off him, he swung his fist and punched him on the side of the head, and Kevin's shiner is testament to this. Now there is noone out there who can tell me something different to what I saw, I know what I saw with my own eyes and so do the 100 odd people who watched the DVD on Sunday night.
Kevin has played very well for us all year and it's just a pity his season ended in such disappointing circumstances. He can be proud of his performance on Sunday where I thought both he and Sean Morrisson got the better of Bellew when he was marking them.

Encouraging signs for next year, although signs don't guarantee promotion from a divsion that is notoriously hard to get out of, and for Harps it is vitally important that we do. Although we didn't get the right result I was proud to be a Harpsman on Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 07, 2008, 11:57:56 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 07, 2008, 12:02:34 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 11:36:20 PM
Quote from: The GAA on October 06, 2008, 11:22:57 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 06, 2008, 08:33:36 PM
Quote
The final will be played on the Saturday. There'll be extra time next week if the Bridge and Culloville draw. I assume the 2 clubs must have agreed to that.

I wish we could get games arranged around when it suited us and when players would be available.  ::)


Like getting your semi delayed a week because your lot had a stag on the intended weekend?
The game was never fixed and considering ogs and mullaghbawn couldn't get games postponed for a few days for deaths in their club do you think we'd be listened to talking about a stag?  Maybe it was delayed because Cullaville had an extra game to play?
Anyway, it's one thing to try and dictate your own fixtures but quite unusual to try and arrange the fixture between two other clubs.

Anyway, it's hardly that important.



But here, "the gaa", what club are you from yourself?

I think it was actually a wedding, albeit in a foreign country.

A wedding in rome, that was it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 07, 2008, 12:00:01 PM
It was a stag night a couple of hours ago  :D  ::)

Why don't you go and answer the questions in my post?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 07, 2008, 12:06:55 PM

Why should i tell you what my club is?

what has that got to do with the issue?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 07, 2008, 12:16:20 PM
Quote from: The GAA on October 07, 2008, 12:06:55 PM

Why should i tell you what my club is?

what has that got to do with the issue?
Nothing to do with the issue, I'm just curious, I can't take you seriously when you're ashamed of your club or won't say which one it is because I suspect alterior motives.

That wasn't what I was talking about though when I said to answer the questions - I was talking more about the daftness to suggest that when other clubs can't get fixtures rearranged for deaths in their clubs how the 'bridge can manage to get one rearranged for a stag/wedding  ??? and even if we did what's your nose bent out of shape about? Would we be the first club to do this? Are we trying to arrange a fixture between two other clubs like Cullyhanna have been trying to do?
But look it doesn't really matter that much, I think it's quite funny  :D - a real sign of nerves around Cullyhanna about a final they're suppose to be very confident about   :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 07, 2008, 12:34:23 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 07, 2008, 12:16:20 PM
Quote from: The GAA on October 07, 2008, 12:06:55 PM

Why should i tell you what my club is?

what has that got to do with the issue?
Nothing to do with the issue, I'm just curious, I can't take you seriously when you're ashamed of your club or won't say which one it is because I suspect alterior motives.

well that'd be your problem and not mine, wouldn't it? from reading these pages it's fairly obvious that there's only one of us that people don't take seriously...

Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 07, 2008, 12:16:20 PM
That wasn't what I was talking about though when I said to answer the questions - I was talking more about the daftness to suggest that when other clubs can't get fixtures rearranged for deaths in their clubs how the 'bridge can manage to get one rearranged for a stag/wedding  ??? and even if we did what's your nose bent out of shape about? Would we be the first club to do this? Are we trying to arrange a fixture between two other clubs like Cullyhanna have been trying to do?
But look it doesn't really matter that much, I think it's quite funny  :D - a real sign of nerves around Cullyhanna about a final they're suppose to be very confident about   :D

certainly its ann issue for the entire county when the bridge get a championship semi final off for a wdding in rome and the rest of us have to play by the draconian rules
why does everything have to be about cullyhanna? i don't believe i mentioned them once.
your constant lying about that same club and it's members on this forum has long since clouded the reality that the bridge are largely the wronged club in this feud and is probably the reaon why noone gives your club any sympathy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 07, 2008, 12:36:40 PM
God, what club are you from that looks for sympathy from anyone?  ???
Run along now, I'm finished with you. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 07, 2008, 12:46:01 PM

:D

you can't even make an argument
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 07, 2008, 12:48:20 PM
I can make an argument about anything you can think off but even I need to know what the subject is.

So, what do you want to argue about?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 07, 2008, 01:08:13 PM


I do not wish to have an argument.

i made the point that it's a bit ridiculous that a club can get a championship semi final off because they have a wedding in rome.

you responded by wanting to know my club and bleating on about cullyhanna.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 07, 2008, 01:15:17 PM
If you don't want an argument what are you saying I can't make an argument bout?  ???
I've made all my points, said all I want to say, answered your points and you're still going on  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 07, 2008, 02:00:42 PM

i never addessed you - you picked an argument with me after i made a general point.

you never answered my assertion anyway - obviously you're unaware of the facts

the only reason i engaged with you is because you directed questions at me.

i'm not still "going on" - i'm addressing your tedious replys
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 07, 2008, 02:02:30 PM
It gets more depressing day by day watching this sort of shite ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on October 07, 2008, 02:03:05 PM
im quite enjoying it  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 07, 2008, 02:03:38 PM
GAA, you don't know my housemate by any chance?  This is the way arguments go with her.  :-\


Quote from: winsamsoon on October 07, 2008, 02:02:30 PM
It gets more depressing day by day watching this sort of shite ???
Yeah, valid point.  Even I'm fed up of this one.  - Might help if I knew what I was meant to be arguing about though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 07, 2008, 06:11:35 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 07, 2008, 02:03:38 PM
GAA, you don't know my housemate by any chance?  This is the way arguments go with her.  :-\


Quote from: winsamsoon on October 07, 2008, 02:02:30 PM
It gets more depressing day by day watching this sort of shite ???
Yeah, valid point.  Even I'm fed up of this one.  - Might help if I knew what I was meant to be arguing about though.

Its fairly simple Pints. You started giving off about what you pereceived to be Cullyhanna trying to have a fixed arranged to suit them (i.e. the intermediate final played before Ireland players go to Australia). It was then pointed out to you that Silverbridge have also successfully had a game re-arranged in the past couple of weeks.

The only difference between the two is that Cullyhanna's motivations had something to do with the GAA, whereas Silverbridge's didn't.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 07, 2008, 06:17:44 PM
Quote
Its fairly simple Pints. You started giving off about what you pereceived to be Cullyhanna trying to have a fixed arranged to suit them (i.e. the intermediate final played before Ireland players go to Australia). It was then pointed out to you that Silverbridge have also successfully had a game re-arranged in the past couple of weeks.
No, Cullyhanna are interfering in a fixture between two other clubs.
The 'Bridge got ntohing re-arranged as there was no fixture for the weekend you think it should have been for.  It would be highly unlikely our needs would be met considering the recent clamp down in the rearranging of fixtures  but even if we did, so what? Every club in the county have done that.  It's your club's interfering in another fixture that's quite unusual.
Now, is that it all cleared up  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 07, 2008, 09:27:57 PM
At the start of the year i really thought that St Pats would win the minor championship this year given that they had 3 good county minors and having watched them win the under 16 championship for the past 2 years. I was shocked that they didn;t even make it to the final. Harps must be a reasonably good team.
As for ourselves we have a very young team and had no one on the county minor panel this year for the first time in 10 years.
However we are delighted to make it to the final and like all Cross teams we will give it a real go.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on October 07, 2008, 10:09:48 PM
I thought the same thing. should be a good final. the harps minors are mostly younger players but unlike cross they a had a few county players on the squad. whatever the result on the day getting to a final is always something to be proud of and the harps have done well with a such a small squad. good luck to both sides
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on October 07, 2008, 10:35:17 PM
Good to see McKeever and Kernan in the international rules squads, i reckon they could make a big impression.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on October 08, 2008, 11:14:05 AM
Quote from: fred the red on October 07, 2008, 10:35:17 PM
Good to see McKeever and Kernan in the international rules squads, i reckon they could make a big impression.

Taking the piss, yeah?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 08, 2008, 12:06:07 PM

Whatever aout McKeever, i just hope Kernan comes home in one piece
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 08, 2008, 12:13:23 PM
Quote from: fred the red on October 07, 2008, 10:35:17 PM
Good to see McKeever and Kernan in the international rules squads, i reckon they could make a big impression.

Glad to see the 2 lads picked, totally baffled as to how Clarkie has been left off the main squad,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on October 08, 2008, 12:39:10 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 07, 2008, 12:00:01 PM
It was a stag night a couple of hours ago  :D  ::)

Why don't you go and answer the questions in my post?

it was actullay a wedding in barcelona
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 08, 2008, 12:44:30 PM
Quote from: flog the lot on October 08, 2008, 12:39:10 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 07, 2008, 12:00:01 PM
It was a stag night a couple of hours ago  :D  ::)

Why don't you go and answer the questions in my post?

it was actullay a wedding in barcelona
Yup.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 08, 2008, 12:44:58 PM
What is all this about lads, Changing matches, Stag parties, weddings in Barcelona, The bridge v Cullyhana rivalry, what?  what? what? is going on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 08, 2008, 12:50:09 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 08, 2008, 12:44:58 PM
What is all this about lads, Changing matches, Stag parties, weddings in Barcelona, The bridge v Cullyhana rivalry, what?  what? what? is going on
I've no idea. Apparnetly the 'bridge got a game refixed that was never fixed in the first place for a stag party...no wait, it was a wedding in rome...no, no, wait....it was actually a wedding in Barcelona.   :D 
But the good news is that random clubs seem to have a say in other club's fixtures now. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 08, 2008, 01:21:09 PM
Surprised Kernan made it - perhaps the game is going to be more fitness than physical and he will prosper?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 08, 2008, 01:39:17 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 08, 2008, 12:50:09 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 08, 2008, 12:44:58 PM
What is all this about lads, Changing matches, Stag parties, weddings in Barcelona, The bridge v Cullyhana rivalry, what?  what? what? is going on
I've no idea. Apparnetly the 'bridge got a game refixed that was never fixed in the first place for a stag party...no wait, it was a wedding in rome...no, no, wait....it was actually a wedding in Barcelona.   :D 
But the good news is that random clubs seem to have a say in other club's fixtures now. 

I heard It was because the Bridge lads were looking to go to the races in dundalk
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 08, 2008, 01:53:20 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on October 08, 2008, 01:39:17 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 08, 2008, 12:50:09 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 08, 2008, 12:44:58 PM
What is all this about lads, Changing matches, Stag parties, weddings in Barcelona, The bridge v Cullyhana rivalry, what?  what? what? is going on
I've no idea. Apparnetly the 'bridge got a game refixed that was never fixed in the first place for a stag party...no wait, it was a wedding in rome...no, no, wait....it was actually a wedding in Barcelona.   :D 
But the good news is that random clubs seem to have a say in other club's fixtures now. 

I heard It was because the Bridge lads were looking to go to the races in dundalk
That must have been what the Cullyhanna boys thought first because  I'd be amazed if they knew half the bridge were away for a few days and there were no houses robbed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on October 08, 2008, 03:27:20 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 08, 2008, 12:44:58 PM
What is all this about lads, Changing matches, Stag parties, weddings in Barcelona, The bridge v Cullyhana rivalry, what?  what? what? is going on
Basically it boils down to one man's campaign of hate against not just a football club but a whole village and it's inhabitants summed up perfectly by the post above.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on October 08, 2008, 03:30:19 PM
Think the silverbridge cullyhanna thing should be knocked on the head or a separate thread made for it.

predictions for the 3 championships

junior Grange
intermediate Cullyhanna
Senior Ogs

wonder what the price would be for this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 08, 2008, 03:42:38 PM
Quote from: mackers on October 08, 2008, 03:27:20 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 08, 2008, 12:44:58 PM
What is all this about lads, Changing matches, Stag parties, weddings in Barcelona, The bridge v Cullyhana rivalry, what?  what? what? is going on
Basically it boils down to one man's campaign of hate against not just a football club but a whole village and it's inhabitants summed up perfectly by the post above.
:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 08, 2008, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: bubbles on October 08, 2008, 03:30:19 PM
Think the silverbridge cullyhanna thing should be knocked on the head or a separate thread made for it.

predictions for the 3 championships

junior Grange
intermediate Cullyhanna
Senior Ogs

wonder what the price would be for this?

There already is

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9411.0

It doesn't get much use though.  It is still all concentrated on this thread
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 08, 2008, 04:31:12 PM
First day back to the office........

Couldn't be bothered with all shite about what happened/didn't happen etc but i will say this:


Quote from: armaghniac on October 06, 2008, 12:02:45 AM
The half time score flattered Cross, but they were well ahead on the scoreboard and they didn't quite press on in the second half. Harps gave them more food for thought than Dromintee or Clans. From my perspective the ball did not cross the line from the final 14m free, but it was only a few mm away. In the incident between Francie and Kelly, I think Kelly hooked Francie's arm, Francie threw the elbow back to free himself and Kelly fell like a Tyrone man. 
Who was scrapping after the final whistle as the teams went back to the tunnel?

I watched the DVD of the game in the club after it and it CLEARLY shows Francie drawing out and punching KK, not with his elbow as stated here!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 08, 2008, 06:38:26 PM
QuoteI think Kelly hooked Francie's arm, Francie threw the elbow back to free himself

Quote
I watched the DVD of the game in the club after it and it CLEARLY shows Francie

it is great to have the benefit of a DVD!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 08, 2008, 08:04:43 PM
Quote from: mackers on October 08, 2008, 03:27:20 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 08, 2008, 12:44:58 PM
What is all this about lads, Changing matches, Stag parties, weddings in Barcelona, The bridge v Cullyhana rivalry, what?  what? what? is going on
Basically it boils down to one man's campaign of hate against not just a football club but a whole village and it's inhabitants summed up perfectly by the post above.

Spot on mackers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 08, 2008, 09:57:01 PM
well done ciaran mc keever for making the ireland team it is something that every player should want and aim for.if armagh had 15 ciaran mc keevers they would have alot more all irelands some one that lives on the edge with every ball he goes for hard as nails strong on the ball he is a all round player every team would love to have a player like him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Erwin Rommel on October 08, 2008, 10:12:23 PM


First time posting since the match. hard luck to the lads they did the club proud, so fair play.

Not surpriosed to see the crap being thrown about as well which shows the Club isgoing in the right direction

Quote from: goh4205 on October 06, 2008, 12:31:41 PM
What I will say about that lad kelly is, I was talking to a friend this morning who was/is close to the Harps and he said he was a yap!!   He was right beside were it happened and in no way did Bellew strike him with intent, all he tried to do was get kelly off him.

Your friend is a complete tool who was never a real harpsman given what he did - the club is better place without him. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 08, 2008, 10:48:06 PM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on October 08, 2008, 10:12:23 PM


First time posting since the match. hard luck to the lads they did the club proud, so fair play.

Not surpriosed to see the crap being thrown about as well which shows the Club isgoing in the right direction

Quote from: goh4205 on October 06, 2008, 12:31:41 PM
What I will say about that lad kelly is, I was talking to a friend this morning who was/is close to the Harps and he said he was a yap!!   He was right beside were it happened and in no way did Bellew strike him with intent, all he tried to do was get kelly off him.

Your friend is a complete tool who was never a real harpsman given what he did - the club is better place without him. 


To be honest I wouldn't worry too much about what Goh says.  He's never really had anything of any value to say on this board.  He just pops up every now and then to wind people up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 08, 2008, 10:51:39 PM
Quote from: back off the net on October 08, 2008, 09:57:01 PM
well done ciaran mc keever for making the ireland team it is something that every player should want and aim for.if armagh had 15 ciaran mc keevers they would have alot more all irelands some one that lives on the edge with every ball he goes for hard as nails strong on the ball he is a all round player every team would love to have a player like him
He's got nice legs too.



Goh and El Cuervo give it a rest will yous, I'm sick listening to yous, can yous not start a different thread if yous want to fight?
;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 08, 2008, 10:58:33 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 08, 2008, 10:51:39 PM
Quote from: back off the net on October 08, 2008, 09:57:01 PM
well done ciaran mc keever for making the ireland team it is something that every player should want and aim for.if armagh had 15 ciaran mc keevers they would have alot more all irelands some one that lives on the edge with every ball he goes for hard as nails strong on the ball he is a all round player every team would love to have a player like him
He's got nice legs too.



Goh and El Cuervo give it a rest will yous, I'm sick listening to yous, can yous not start a different thread if yous want to fight?
;)

sure start one up for us will ye?  you might need to find out what club goh is from though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 08, 2008, 11:38:13 PM
 :D classic
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 09, 2008, 09:43:25 AM

Quote from: back off the net on October 08, 2008, 09:57:01 PM
well done ciaran mc keever for making the ireland team it is something that every player should want and aim for.if armagh had 15 ciaran mc keevers they would have alot more all irelands some one that lives on the edge with every ball he goes for hard as nails strong on the ball he is a all round player every team would love to have a player like him





If they had no McKeevers there would have been an All Ireland in 2005, sure that stupid tug still haunts him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 09, 2008, 10:42:51 AM
Just back lads from my latest ban... ;D There are some guys on the board who i wouldn't have liked to be one of my comrades back in the troubles, as if the Brits had caught him/her ;) he/she  would have sunk the whole fecking army. Infact they prob wouldn't need to be caught they just phone up and grass you up just for the sake of it... :D :D

Anyways i think it's time we all revealed what clubs we represent on the board as some people have the right to know...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 09, 2008, 10:55:12 AM
Ballymacnab  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 09, 2008, 10:57:36 AM
I smell Bacon...  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 09, 2008, 10:58:41 AM
You'd be alright illdecide, the brits wouldn't be interested in some fool in Lurgan slabbering to them when he'd a few pints. 



QuoteIf they had no McKeevers there would have been an All Ireland in 2005, sure that stupid tug still haunts him.
You make a good point!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 09, 2008, 11:01:58 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 09, 2008, 10:58:41 AM
You'd be alright illdecide, the brits wouldn't be interested in some fool in Lurgan slabbering to them when he'd a few pints. 



QuoteIf they had no McKeevers there would have been an All Ireland in 2005, sure that stupid tug still haunts him.
You make a good point!

Pints, you really dont like illdecide, do you? or K Mc Keever for that matter, what have they done?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 09, 2008, 11:03:55 AM
The list is a lot longer than that....
I think the man is frustrated and needs the bag emptied!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 09, 2008, 11:14:53 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 09, 2008, 11:01:58 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 09, 2008, 10:58:41 AM
You'd be alright illdecide, the brits wouldn't be interested in some fool in Lurgan slabbering to them when he'd a few pints. 



QuoteIf they had no McKeevers there would have been an All Ireland in 2005, sure that stupid tug still haunts him.
You make a good point!

Pints, you really dont like illdecide, do you? or K Mc Keever for that matter, what have they done?

I don't like McKeever, although a fantastic player, I think he's a dirty, hateful (edited by mod3)

I think illdecide is alright, just a bit immature - he doesn't like me though but that's ok, he's entitled to his opinion. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 09, 2008, 11:19:42 AM
Like I'lldecide has requested, everyone stick down their clubs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 09, 2008, 11:21:34 AM
Dromintee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on October 09, 2008, 11:22:05 AM
carrickcruppen st. patricks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 09, 2008, 11:22:23 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 09, 2008, 11:19:42 AM
Like I'lldecide has requested, everyone stick down their clubs

Mullaghbrack GFC
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 09, 2008, 11:24:09 AM
Ballyhegan Davitt's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 09, 2008, 11:27:52 AM
St. Pats, Cullyhanna


btw candyman - just seen this
QuoteThe list is a lot longer than that....
I think the man is frustrated and needs the bag emptied!!!
I think you'd be surprised, there's only a handful on this board I don't like, just because I argue with someone doesn't mean I don't like them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 09, 2008, 11:31:12 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 09, 2008, 11:27:52 AM
St. Pats, Cullyhanna

Fair play to ye, I was just about to post that on your behalf!!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 09, 2008, 11:50:01 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 09, 2008, 11:27:52 AM
St. Pats, Cullyhanna


btw candyman - just seen this
QuoteThe list is a lot longer than that....
I think the man is frustrated and needs the bag emptied!!!
I think you'd be surprised, there's only a handful on this board I don't like, just because I argue with someone doesn't mean I don't like them.

Good luck in the Intermediate final Pints, hopes yous bring the cup up the road, are you alll set
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 09, 2008, 11:51:59 AM
QuoteGood luck in the Intermediate final Pints, hopes yous bring the cup up the road, are you alll set
Well thanks but we better concentrate on the semi final first. - I'm not really from cullyhanna.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 09, 2008, 11:54:06 AM
I thought you were showing your true colours there and flying the flag for your beloved St PATS,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 09, 2008, 12:18:57 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on October 09, 2008, 11:22:05 AM
carrickcruppen st. patricks


Never knew Cruppen was called St. Patrick's? How many St Patrick's is there in the county?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on October 09, 2008, 12:24:59 PM
Armagh Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 09, 2008, 12:42:26 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 09, 2008, 10:58:41 AM
You'd be alright illdecide, the brits wouldn't be interested in some fool in Lurgan slabbering to them when he'd a few pints. 



QuoteIf they had no McKeevers there would have been an All Ireland in 2005, sure that stupid tug still haunts him.
You make a good point!

Well I'm sure the Brits you live with and slabber too are as interested in you as they would be in me... ;) saan...I may be a fool or an immature fool but I'm one of the best paid fools around ;) ;D

Oh by the way my club is Clan na Gael...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 09, 2008, 12:44:46 PM
QuoteWell I'm sure the Brits you live with and slabber too are as interested in you as they would be in me... Wink saan...I may be a fool or an immature fool but I'm one of the best paid fools around
Well my daddy is bigger than yours... ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 09, 2008, 12:49:52 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 09, 2008, 12:18:57 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on October 09, 2008, 11:22:05 AM
carrickcruppen st. patricks


Never knew Cruppen was called St. Patrick's? How many St Patrick's is there in the county?

At least 3 officially, Dromintee, Cruppen and ourselves. May be a couple more though I'm not aware of them. Only one really though!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on October 09, 2008, 01:11:40 PM
Tullysaran O'Connells
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 09, 2008, 01:23:24 PM
Quote from: Candyman on October 09, 2008, 11:22:23 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 09, 2008, 11:19:42 AM
Like I'lldecide has requested, everyone stick down their clubs

Mullaghbrack GFC
Since when?

Pearse Ogs / Cuchullainns
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on October 09, 2008, 02:10:09 PM
Philadelphia Shamrocks

Candyman I thought only Ogs B team played for the Brack?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 09, 2008, 02:19:43 PM
tut tut...  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 09, 2008, 02:41:16 PM
Pearse Ogs

Quote from: Candyman on October 09, 2008, 11:22:23 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 09, 2008, 11:19:42 AM
Like I'lldecide has requested, everyone stick down their clubs

Mullaghbrack GFC

Have you retired already Candyman?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 09, 2008, 02:48:07 PM
Retired, had I ever started???

Gonna take up golfing with Harpo, AOK & BP...  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on October 09, 2008, 02:48:27 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 09, 2008, 12:49:52 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 09, 2008, 12:18:57 PM
Quote from: diesel-smuggler on October 09, 2008, 11:22:05 AM
carrickcruppen st. patricks


Never knew Cruppen was called St. Patrick's? How many St Patrick's is there in the county?

At least 3 officially, Dromintee, Cruppen and ourselves. May be a couple more though I'm not aware of them. Only one really though!
isnt it great that people recognise the crupps as the pre-eminent club in Armagh with the name "st Patricks" ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 09, 2008, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on October 09, 2008, 02:10:09 PM
Philadelphia Shamrocks

Candyman I thought only Ogs B team played for the Brack?

Iceman think somehow you've got ur wires crossed - It'd be the Harps B's playing for the Brack  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on October 09, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 09, 2008, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on October 09, 2008, 02:10:09 PM
Philadelphia Shamrocks

Candyman I thought only Ogs B team played for the Brack?

Iceman think somehow you've got ur wires crossed - It'd be the Harps B's playing for the Brack  ;)

Didn't want to reveal Candymans secret identity  - he likes to keep things under the radar but we all know he is Diz McAvinchey
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 09, 2008, 03:26:47 PM
ogs  / neasden gaels
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 09, 2008, 03:35:02 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on October 09, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 09, 2008, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on October 09, 2008, 02:10:09 PM
Philadelphia Shamrocks

Candyman I thought only Ogs B team played for the Brack?

Iceman think somehow you've got ur wires crossed - It'd be the Harps B's playing for the Brack  ;)

Didn't want to reveal Candymans secret identity  - he likes to keep things under the radar but we all know he is Diz McAvinchey

Ok I'll hold my hands up.... I'M BUNION McCREADY!!!  :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 09, 2008, 04:50:01 PM
Brother of roy????  :D :D welcome back decide i shall to report you next time to see if i get the same reaction. I am glad you have came back because i asn't allowed to say anything according to full back . You are the spokesman for the Clans you know.So my club shall have to be St Peter's then.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 09, 2008, 05:26:06 PM
The Ogs Killeavy game  had the 2 best forwards in Armagh playing.
However Ogs made maximum use of their star man whilst Killeavy wasted theirs.
Between scores taken from play and scores made by him  Ronan Clarke was directly responsible for 8 of Ogs total. In contrast Stevie didn't score from play and his contribution to Killeavys total was minimaal which was hardly his fault.
Such a waste of a super forward. It was akin to playing Pele at full back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 09, 2008, 05:38:47 PM
I think i highlighted this problem crossfire before the games. It was clear that was always going to be a problem more so for killeavy because the rest of the team are just average whilst the ogs woud have another 4 or 5 half decent players
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 09, 2008, 06:02:35 PM
It was suicidal alrite, I'd dare say Stevie can dictate alot within that team, which might have something to do with it. I only caught the second half, but I couldn't believe how bad Killeavey were.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: john mcgill on October 09, 2008, 06:59:47 PM
Tullysaran O'Connells
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on October 09, 2008, 08:32:28 PM
Cúchulainn C.L.G An Mullach Bán

HOGANSTAND
One of the GAA's most astonishing records came to an end last weekend when Oisin McConville missed a club championship match for the first time since 1996. For the first time in 13 campaigns, Crossmaglen took to the field for a championship match without their talismanic attacker. Incredibly, McConville had the distinction of playing in a remarkable 98 consecutive knockout games up until the 2008 county semi-final defeat of Armagh Harps. True to form, he scored in every single one of those games as Crossmaglen became the dominant force in Armagh, Ulster and Ireland. It's a sequence that will surely never be equalled
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 09, 2008, 09:14:03 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on October 09, 2008, 08:32:28 PM
Cúchulainn C.L.G An Mullach Bán

HOGANSTAND
One of the GAA's most astonishing records came to an end last weekend when Oisin McConville missed a club championship match for the first time since 1996. For the first time in 13 campaigns, Crossmaglen took to the field for a championship match without their talismanic attacker. Incredibly, McConville had the distinction of playing in a remarkable 98 consecutive knockout games up until the 2008 county semi-final defeat of Armagh Harps. True to form, he scored in every single one of those games as Crossmaglen became the dominant force in Armagh, Ulster and Ireland. It's a sequence that will surely never be equalled

End of an era?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 09, 2008, 09:22:16 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on October 09, 2008, 09:14:03 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on October 09, 2008, 08:32:28 PM
Cúchulainn C.L.G An Mullach Bán

HOGANSTAND
One of the GAA's most astonishing records came to an end last weekend when Oisin McConville missed a club championship match for the first time since 1996. For the first time in 13 campaigns, Crossmaglen took to the field for a championship match without their talismanic attacker. Incredibly, McConville had the distinction of playing in a remarkable 98 consecutive knockout games up until the 2008 county semi-final defeat of Armagh Harps. True to form, he scored in every single one of those games as Crossmaglen became the dominant force in Armagh, Ulster and Ireland. It's a sequence that will surely never be equalled

End of an era?  ;)

Ye reckon?  We'll see in a few weeks! 

That is some record and if you add that to the 50 odd games he played for Armagh that is a serious haul of championship games.  Add in club and county League games, say 20 a year over his career and you could easily add 250 games on top of that.  400 games is some tally and no wonder his back is fcuked!!!  It's when you see stats like that that the argument for payment is easier to make.  Hopefull he will add at least another 5 championship games before this season is out ;)

By the by, Cross obviously, but now affiliated to Ballincollig in Cork, with a certain amount of time allocated to Sliabh Rua underage teams as well in my home village here.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 09, 2008, 09:32:31 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 09, 2008, 09:22:16 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on October 09, 2008, 09:14:03 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on October 09, 2008, 08:32:28 PM
Cúchulainn C.L.G An Mullach Bán

HOGANSTAND
One of the GAA's most astonishing records came to an end last weekend when Oisin McConville missed a club championship match for the first time since 1996. For the first time in 13 campaigns, Crossmaglen took to the field for a championship match without their talismanic attacker. Incredibly, McConville had the distinction of playing in a remarkable 98 consecutive knockout games up until the 2008 county semi-final defeat of Armagh Harps. True to form, he scored in every single one of those games as Crossmaglen became the dominant force in Armagh, Ulster and Ireland. It's a sequence that will surely never be equalled

End of an era?  ;)

Ye reckon?  We'll see in a few weeks! 

That is some record and if you add that to the 50 odd games he played for Armagh that is a serious haul of championship games.  Add in club and county League games, say 20 a year over his career and you could easily add 250 games on top of that.  400 games is some tally and no wonder his back is fcuked!!!  It's when you see stats like that that the argument for payment is easier to make.  Hopefull he will add at least another 5 championship games before this season is out ;)

By the by, Cross obviously, but now affiliated to Ballincollig in Cork, with a certain amount of time allocated to Sliabh Rua underage teams as well in my home village here.

:D I thought I'd get a reaction like that

It has to be said though, it is some achievement
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 09, 2008, 09:42:44 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 09, 2008, 10:42:51 AM
Anyways i think it's time we all revealed what clubs we represent on the board as some people have the right to know...

Poyntzpass Redmond O'Hanlons (and Scarva Rangers... not)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 09, 2008, 09:45:25 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on October 09, 2008, 09:32:31 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 09, 2008, 09:22:16 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on October 09, 2008, 09:14:03 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on October 09, 2008, 08:32:28 PM
Cúchulainn C.L.G An Mullach Bán

HOGANSTAND
One of the GAA's most astonishing records came to an end last weekend when Oisin McConville missed a club championship match for the first time since 1996. For the first time in 13 campaigns, Crossmaglen took to the field for a championship match without their talismanic attacker. Incredibly, McConville had the distinction of playing in a remarkable 98 consecutive knockout games up until the 2008 county semi-final defeat of Armagh Harps. True to form, he scored in every single one of those games as Crossmaglen became the dominant force in Armagh, Ulster and Ireland. It's a sequence that will surely never be equalled

End of an era?  ;)

Ye reckon?  We'll see in a few weeks! 

That is some record and if you add that to the 50 odd games he played for Armagh that is a serious haul of championship games.  Add in club and county League games, say 20 a year over his career and you could easily add 250 games on top of that.  400 games is some tally and no wonder his back is fcuked!!!  It's when you see stats like that that the argument for payment is easier to make.  Hopefull he will add at least another 5 championship games before this season is out ;)

By the by, Cross obviously, but now affiliated to Ballincollig in Cork, with a certain amount of time allocated to Sliabh Rua underage teams as well in my home village here.

:D I thought I'd get a reaction like that

It has to be said though, it is some achievement

What do you expect me to do, lie down like an Ogs man :P  I presume the Final is next Sunday?  Pity as I am up this weekend.  I'll be up the Hallowe'en weekend too, so I can go cheer the Ogs on against the Fermanagh team, a nice handy one for them to start with!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 09, 2008, 09:47:44 PM
The county final is on the 19th
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 09, 2008, 11:23:24 PM
BCB1 - You have been down in Cork too long,

you must have langeritis, no point trying to play down Cross at this stage
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 10, 2008, 09:15:51 AM
Quote from: Orior on October 09, 2008, 09:42:44 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 09, 2008, 10:42:51 AM
Anyways i think it's time we all revealed what clubs we represent on the board as some people have the right to know...

Poyntzpass Redmond O'Hanlons (and Scarva Rangers... not)

Go on the Rangers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 10, 2008, 05:19:01 PM
It's crop when you're teams out of everything and we've nothing to slabber about on the board...Suppose i may get used to it :P

anyway good luck to the teams playing this weekend and may the rain beat of you're bollocks like sewer rods whilst spectating...May the best team won (as they'd say in Derry)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 10, 2008, 07:38:35 PM
any word that the Cullyhanna v Silverbridge game is moved to Carrickcruppin .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on October 10, 2008, 08:14:10 PM
Eire Og
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on October 10, 2008, 09:37:26 PM
just supposing that Sbridge v Culloville match is postponed again tomorrow.  This means it is rescheduled for next week and McKeever is out because he will have to travel to Oz.
Is this right?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 10, 2008, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: Seany on October 10, 2008, 09:37:26 PM
just supposing that Sbridge v Culloville match is postponed again tomorrow.  This means it is rescheduled for next week and McKeever is out because he will have to travel to Oz.
Is this right?

Hard to know Seany. If he was representing Armagh we'd be entitled to a postponement so personally I think the same principle should apply. Ulster intermediate is on 2nd November though. Bound to be at least one pitch in the county playable over the weekend though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 10, 2008, 10:37:19 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 10, 2008, 10:29:40 PM
Quote from: Seany on October 10, 2008, 09:37:26 PM
just supposing that Sbridge v Culloville match is postponed again tomorrow.  This means it is rescheduled for next week and McKeever is out because he will have to travel to Oz.
Is this right?

Hard to know Seany. If he was representing Armagh we'd be entitled to a postponement so personally I think the same principle should apply. Ulster intermediate is on 2nd November though. Bound to be at least one pitch in the county playable over the weekend though.

Have to agree. Same applies to Sean Cavanagh. If the boys turned down the chance to stay with their clubs they would be give  dogs abuse. In McKeever's case he was not to know, hopefully they get him back for it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RICH TEA on October 10, 2008, 11:02:38 PM
its a wee bit different than playing for county, their are lots of players over the years got picked to go to oz and had to turn it down due to club championship commitments . its lovely to be picked and no better player to be picked to go for strength feel the same about Arron k but i do feel if your club have a big game you should have to choose you club game as at the end of the day the international rules is only a bonus if you get picked not a major commitment and not going to get you a county medal.
i know everyones thinks different on this but i do feel club/ county first then the bonus of international rules or play for ulster if your club is out.

Arron may also miss out if cross draw with ogs, but hope they don't
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 10, 2008, 11:23:43 PM
think that game is moved to cruppen or the ogs ground it has to be played tomorrow
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 11, 2008, 12:00:09 PM
It's been moved to Ogs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 11, 2008, 04:38:32 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 11, 2008, 12:00:09 PM
It's been moved to Ogs.
What time at? The junior final is on at 3pm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 11, 2008, 06:42:09 PM
Culloville beat Silverbridge by 3 AET. Good game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 11, 2008, 08:45:15 PM
Sorry I didn't get back to you benny, didn't see your question until a hour ago.

Quote from: crossfire on October 11, 2008, 06:42:09 PM
Culloville beat Silverbridge by 3 AET. Good game.
Absolutely gutted, I heard the better team lost and we should have had it in normal time - fair view or biased one I don't know. 
I must admit I'd some concerns that we wouldn't be able to match Cullaville but the lads have done us proud, especially the boys playing through injury, leading by example and setting high standards as usual. It's a pity commitment and dedication doesn't win games! but I've no doubt the talent is there too, we'll get there! 

Hard luck to the lads, heads up - well done to Cullaville and all the best in the final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 11, 2008, 10:24:13 PM
Yeh The bridge should have won it in normal time.
They were a point up in injury time and instead of playing their normal game they tried to play "keep ball" around the middle of the field and gave the ball away. Cullaville drew a free which was moved up and they equalised with the last kick of the game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on October 11, 2008, 11:53:50 PM
Good game. Two even sides. Silverbridge should prob have sneaked it in normal time. 2 decisions proved costly for them.
First was half back in last few seconds of normal opting to try and play forward when in possesion when a few hand passes across half back line to unmarked opponents would have ran clock down.
Second was a call by the referee to move last kick of game up ten yards (after free kick had been kicked and was obviously falling short). It seemed the reason being that one of the bridge defenders was jumpning up and down about 15 yards away in front of the kicker. A strange and unfair decision by the looks of it. Referee was Jimmy Mc Kee and was pretty incconsistent throughout.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 11, 2008, 11:56:12 PM
QuoteSecond was a call by the referee to move last kick of game up ten yards (after free kick had been kicked and was obviously falling short). It seemed the reason being that one of the bridge defenders was jumpning up and down about 15 yards away in front of the kicker. A strange and unfair decision by the looks of it.
Yes, apparently there's a rule that a player can't jump when a free kick is being taken - even if they're 10 yards back?
I have never seen this enforced.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on October 12, 2008, 12:02:24 AM
Its a rule i never knew existsed and have certainly never seen it enforced, and have played almost 20 years.
Freesmoved up for dissent not moving back required distance but for opposing player jumpong up and down was a very petty shout by the ref.
It was a bad call and was always gonna be tough for the bridge boys to get their heads right for extra time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 12:12:58 AM
Quote from: Yes I Would on October 12, 2008, 12:02:24 AM
Its a rule i never knew existsed and have certainly never seen it enforced, and have played almost 20 years.
Freesmoved up for dissent not moving back required distance but for opposing player jumpong up and down was a very petty shout by the ref.
It was a bad call and was always gonna be tough for the bridge boys to get their heads right for extra time.
I'd normally have a lot of time for McKee but it's just ridiculous that something like that has cost us a place in a championship final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 12, 2008, 11:47:17 AM

To be fair lads i've seen that rule implemented plenty though i was under the impression that it only applied to a player who is the minimum 14 yards away?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 12:24:19 PM
It is in the rule book alright but I've never seen it applied.
Quote from: The GAA on October 12, 2008, 11:47:17 AM

To be fair lads i've seen that rule implemented plenty though i was under the impression that it only applied to a player who is the minimum 14 yards away?
He was the required distance away.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 12, 2008, 01:31:45 PM
get over it all bridge supporters yous are beat and out and still in DIV 2 were yous belong and with players going to Australia i think thats the last we have seen off yous ha ha
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 01:50:19 PM
Any word on Granemore and Tir Na Og?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on October 12, 2008, 02:01:14 PM
Granemore beat Tir na nOg 1-10 to 11. Carrickcruppin now promoted to div 1. Ollie Hearty played a blinder for them! The man hasn't a clue, idiot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 02:05:36 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on October 12, 2008, 02:01:14 PM
Granemore beat Tir na nOg 1-10 to 11. Carrickcruppin now promoted to div 1. Ollie Hearty played a blinder for them! The man hasn't a clue, idiot.
f**k I'd say that  ::)
He's a cheating ****.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 12, 2008, 02:25:16 PM
Pints ignore that asshole (back of  the net)
Will your management stay on do you think?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 02:27:42 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on October 12, 2008, 02:25:16 PM
Pints ignore that asshole (back of  the net)
Will your management stay on do you think?
Havent a clue, was thinking that last night, personally I'd be happy enough for them to stay.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 12, 2008, 02:30:59 PM
well best wishes to culloville next week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on October 12, 2008, 03:50:19 PM
Half time Grange 0-1 Middleton 1-07. Not even that close tbh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on October 12, 2008, 04:00:32 PM
just back from the ollie hearty show also known as granemore v tirnanog match. as posted earlier granemore won by 2. would have been a decent match only for ollie hearty to take all the focus towards himself. it was the most one sided refereeing display ever. he just made his own rule book, at one stage he moved a free from the side line to the penalty spot for talking back, the last time i heard that was only 10 yards. now understand why he got such a bad name around south armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on October 12, 2008, 04:57:46 PM
Finished Grange 0-3 Middletown 1-14 or else 1-15.  Grange keeper was their best player and made 3 or 4 excellent saves in the seond half to keep the score down when Middletown were trying to walk the ball into the net
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 12, 2008, 06:02:18 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 12:24:19 PM
It is in the rule book alright but I've never seen it applied.
Quote from: The GAA on October 12, 2008, 11:47:17 AM

To be fair lads i've seen that rule implemented plenty though i was under the impression that it only applied to a player who is the minimum 14 yards away?
He was the required distance away.

Yes, i'm saying that i thought that rule applied to someone who is just the min away - ie is marking the kick. beyond that it doesn't apply?

Quote from: armaghtrue on October 12, 2008, 04:00:32 PM
at one stage he moved a free from the side line to the penalty spot for talking back, the last time i heard that was only 10 yards.

it's 14 yards
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 06:12:03 PM
QuoteYes, i'm saying that i thought that rule applied to someone who is just the min away - ie is marking the kick. beyond that it doesn't apply?
I think that's what he was doing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 12, 2008, 06:35:54 PM
So who was Hearty giving all the decisions too??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 12, 2008, 06:36:52 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 12:24:19 PM
It is in the rule book alright but I've never seen it applied.
Quote from: The GAA on October 12, 2008, 11:47:17 AM

To be fair lads i've seen that rule implemented plenty though i was under the impression that it only applied to a player who is the minimum 14 yards away?
He was the required distance away.

How do you know, you werent at the match ffs!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 06:38:38 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on October 12, 2008, 06:36:52 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 12:24:19 PM
It is in the rule book alright but I've never seen it applied.
Quote from: The GAA on October 12, 2008, 11:47:17 AM

To be fair lads i've seen that rule implemented plenty though i was under the impression that it only applied to a player who is the minimum 14 yards away?
He was the required distance away.

How do you know, you werent at the match ffs!!!
Because I've been told and if you read other comments you'll see that yes I would said he was 15 yards away.
What's your problem? the distance wasn't an issue.
There's no doubt that the free kick was moved up because he was jumping not because of the distance. 


Why the attitude?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 12, 2008, 06:54:06 PM
Why the attitude?

Probably because im sick scanning through your bullshit this last 6 months

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 06:58:47 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on October 12, 2008, 06:54:06 PM
Why the attitude?

Probably because im sick scanning through your bullshit this last 6 months


So you didn't read the posts on the game, not just mine, it would seem you didn't read anyone's but thought you'd jump in trying to have a go at me? Fair enough.
::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on October 12, 2008, 07:09:21 PM
I was at the mmatch and to be fair the bridge appeared to be the better team in normal time.They couldnt deal with the Culloville full forward line and I though that Kieran and Peter Hatzer wer suprb on the day and will take a lot of watching in the final.Thought that the bridge when they went in front close to the end tried to be too smart by throwing the ball around and playing about across the field instead of trying to go for another score. I felt that the referee was poor throughtout and awarded a lot of very dubious frees beore his last decision which has been talked about the bridge supporters since. Felt though that Gerard Mc Garvey should  have been sent off for the the foul on the original free kick which was about sixty yards out. Culloville were a much better team in the first period of extra time and the gola was a killer. Shane O neill was majestic for the blues in the second half and in extra time.Good game of football between two well matched teams. Thought that the bridger played as well as they possibly could but I think that Culloville will improve for the final. For the bridge I thought that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 07:13:57 PM
QuoteFor the bridge I thought that
? to be continued next week?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on October 12, 2008, 07:23:44 PM
Quote from: Yes I Would on October 11, 2008, 11:53:50 PM
Good game. Two even sides. Silverbridge should prob have sneaked it in normal time. 2 decisions proved costly for them.
First was half back in last few seconds of normal opting to try and play forward when in possesion when a few hand passes across half back line to unmarked opponents would have ran clock down.
Second was a call by the referee to move last kick of game up ten yards (after free kick had been kicked and was obviously falling short). It seemed the reason being that one of the bridge defenders was jumpning up and down about 15 yards away in front of the kicker. A strange and unfair decision by the looks of it. Referee was Jimmy Mc Kee and was pretty incconsistent throughout.

According the the Rules the referee's decision would seem to have been correct.

RULE 4 - TECHNICAL FOULS

4.19 To interfere with a player taking a free kick or side-line kick by jumping up and down, waving hands, or any other physical or verbal interference considered by the referee to be aimed at distracting the player taking the kick.

Exception
A player holding his hands upright shall not constitute an interference.

PENALTY - FOR THE ABOVE FOULS – Free kick 13m more advantageous than the place of original kick -up to opponents' 13m line.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 07:25:59 PM
When's the last time you seen it applied AE?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 12, 2008, 07:44:52 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 07:25:59 PM
When's the last time you seen it applied AE?

It happened me last year for jumping as the player took the kick.  The ref move the ball to a more central position and the free was taken again.  I dont do that anymore   :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 07:46:58 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on October 12, 2008, 07:44:52 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 07:25:59 PM
When's the last time you seen it applied AE?

It happened me last year for jumping as the player took the kick.  The ref move the ball to a more central position and the free was taken again.  I dont do that anymore   :(
Depends on the ref and the mood he's in probably - like so many gaa rules  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 12, 2008, 09:00:13 PM
Pints it would appear that the Silverbridge management stepped down last night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 09:11:22 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on October 12, 2008, 09:00:13 PM
Pints it would appear that the Silverbridge management stepped down last night.
For certain?  I'm just off the phone to someone at home and they hadn't heard anything on the management?
If it's true it's a pity, they two boys have served us well. 

I wonder will Ciaran Conlon fulfill his promise and look to return?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on October 12, 2008, 09:32:09 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 12, 2008, 09:13:24 PM
Having read the posts, Silverbridge were robbed.
yes they were robbed but at the end of the day its nite:L so lets jus hope 4 a good final....... young fella bellew had some game...best of luck 2 cullaville ne way....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bomber on October 12, 2008, 09:32:33 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 09:11:22 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on October 12, 2008, 09:00:13 PM
Pints it would appear that the Silverbridge management stepped down last night.
For certain?  I'm just off the phone to someone at home and they hadn't heard anything on the management?
If it's true it's a pity, they two boys have served us well. 

I wonder will Ciaran Conlon fulfill his promise and look to return?

Does he not play because he doesn't get on with the management? How long has he not being playing football. Will be hard to get back into it again if he's been out a good while. He was very good in his younger days. What age is he now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 12, 2008, 09:37:13 PM
Quote from: Bomber on October 12, 2008, 09:32:33 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 09:11:22 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on October 12, 2008, 09:00:13 PM
Pints it would appear that the Silverbridge management stepped down last night.
For certain?  I'm just off the phone to someone at home and they hadn't heard anything on the management?
If it's true it's a pity, they two boys have served us well. 

I wonder will Ciaran Conlon fulfill his promise and look to return?

Does he not play because he doesn't get on with the management? How long has he not being playing football. Will be hard to get back into it again if he's been out a good while. He was very good in his younger days. What age is he now?

He'd be 22 now - should be coming into his prime and by some distance the best player to have come through Silverbridge in recent years. He hasn't been "out of it" as such - been playing away in Dundalk. The word was he'd be heading back to the Bridge once the current management left the set up. I suppose he has the winter to decide now. Supremely talented footballer, just a wee bit too injury prone to really make it at the top level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 09:40:43 PM
What tacadoir said - but tac he suffered that bad injury at minor and done very well to come back - I can only remember him missing one game while he was playing senior due to injury.  I dont know if he's had any injuries while he's been in dundalk.  I wouldnt describe him as injury prone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 12, 2008, 09:50:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 09:40:43 PM
What tacadoir said - but tac he suffered that bad injury at minor and done very well to come back - I can only remember him missing one game while he was playing senior due to injury.  I dont know if he's had any injuries while he's been in dundalk.  I wouldnt describe him as injury prone.

Probably better to say he was maybe never quite the same after the injury then. Certainly he was the sort of player who you woulda thought coulda been challenging for the Armagh set up by now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 12, 2008, 09:50:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 12, 2008, 09:40:43 PM
What tacadoir said - but tac he suffered that bad injury at minor and done very well to come back - I can only remember him missing one game while he was playing senior due to injury.  I dont know if he's had any injuries while he's been in dundalk.  I wouldnt describe him as injury prone.

Probably better to say he was maybe never quite the same after the injury then. Certainly he was the sort of player who you woulda thought coulda been challenging for the Armagh set up by now.
Yeah...maybe if he had to stay with us - he might be a bit on the small side though and the biggest obstacle of all, unfortunately, is/was his attitude imo.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 13, 2008, 09:21:01 AM
pog before you make cheat comments about Hearty, you should look at the referee in your own club :-\
Let he who is without sin and all that craic

Bridge were very unlucky on Sat evening. One of the strangest decisions I have ever seen at such an important time by the ref. The Culloville lads had their hands in their heads as they thought Hatzer had missed the free & speaking to people, no one had actually seen the lad jump in front of the kicker. Thought the Bridge were the better team throughout the 60 mins, but I felt it would be hard for such young team to come back from that in extra time.
Think the Hatzers scored almost everything for Culloville.
Shane O Neill was very very good in the middle. Before the game I rated Mc Garvey as a better fielder but O' Neill gave an exhibition.
Culloville were niggly throughout the game, perhaps to unsettle a smaller, quicker Bridge team.

Should be a good final, with two physical teams
BTW there was some amount of St Pats supporters/players at the game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on October 13, 2008, 09:53:22 AM
quote by back off the net

Quoteget over it all bridge supporters yous are beat and out and still in DIV 2 were yous belong and with players going to Australia i think thats the last we have seen off yous ha ha

Has Ciaran McKeever made it onto the board??  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 13, 2008, 11:20:31 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on October 13, 2008, 09:53:22 AM
quote by back off the net

Quoteget over it all bridge supporters yous are beat and out and still in DIV 2 were yous belong and with players going to Australia i think thats the last we have seen off yous ha ha

Has Ciaran McKeever has made it onto the board??  :P

well said Over the bar you can nearly spoke proper england... ;) :D

you too full back well said , that Silverbridge hoor Quigley is the biggest cheating sc**bag about and he calls Hearty a cheating c**t ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on October 13, 2008, 11:23:51 AM
Yous armagh boys are all cheating hoors. yous invented it for christ saker.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 13, 2008, 11:27:44 AM
Madden defeated Ballyhegan yesterday in Madden, by 3 points.

Davitt's were the better team in the first half, with Paul McGrane superb in midfield. However, Madden got back into things in midfield in the second half, and the set pieces of Joe Feeney (Who was well shackled in normal play by Conor Morgan) proved decisive.

Mark Hughes hit the cross bar, near the end for the Davitts, and with some better descions in attack & a bit of luck and the outcome could have been a draw, which would have been a fair result IMO.

Ballyhegan need to avoid defeat against St Pauls next week to get promoted! - It would be nice to meet Portydown, Maghery & Harps next year!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 13, 2008, 11:31:11 AM
Quote from: Final Whistle on October 13, 2008, 11:23:51 AM
Yous armagh boys are all cheating hoors. yous invented it for christ saker.  ;D ;D

Final Whistle, what have I told you before about giving lip!! If I have to land down to the Moy you'll end up with egg (or is it jam  ;)) on your face...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 13, 2008, 11:32:27 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 13, 2008, 11:27:44 AM
Madden defeated Ballyhegan yesterday in Madden, by 3 points.

Davitt's were the better team in the first half, with Paul McGrane superb in midfield. However, Madden got back into things in midfield in the second half, and the set pieces of Joe Feeney (Who was well shackled in normal play by Conor Morgan) proved decisive.

Mark Hughes hit the cross bar, near the end for the Davitts, and with some better descions in attack & a bit of luck and the outcome could have been a draw, which would have been a fair result IMO.

Ballyhegan need to avoid defeat against St Pauls next week to get promoted! - It would be nice to meet Portydown, Maghery & Harps next year!!

Would be good to get a rattle at the twins alrite...  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 13, 2008, 12:19:34 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 13, 2008, 11:27:44 AM
Madden defeated Ballyhegan yesterday in Madden, by 3 points.

Davitt's were the better team in the first half, with Paul McGrane superb in midfield. However, Madden got back into things in midfield in the second half, and the set pieces of Joe Feeney (Who was well shackled in normal play by Conor Morgan) proved decisive.

Mark Hughes hit the cross bar, near the end for the Davitts, and with some better descions in attack & a bit of luck and the outcome could have been a draw, which would have been a fair result IMO.

Ballyhegan need to avoid defeat against St Pauls next week to get promoted! - It would be nice to meet Portydown, Maghery & Harps next year!!

Have Madden won div 3 then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 13, 2008, 12:19:49 PM
Any betting for the Co. Final lads??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 13, 2008, 12:34:49 PM
Cross 1/6

Pogs 7/2

With Boylesports, Not a bad price for the ogs, might be interested in a big smoke double ;) instead of the cross double
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 13, 2008, 12:41:10 PM
Thats fairly cut from the 1/14 they were at the semi stage!!  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 13, 2008, 12:45:01 PM
Quote from: Candyman on October 13, 2008, 12:41:10 PM
Thats fairly cut from the 1/14 they were at the semi stage!!  :o

That would tell you the difference between the Harps & the Ogs ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 13, 2008, 12:46:20 PM
would it??  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 13, 2008, 12:47:30 PM
Yes, it would ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 13, 2008, 12:48:46 PM
What do you think seriously Candyman.

I feel the Ogs have a great chance to topple the mighty Cross, if they can bypass midfield with Mckinney's accurate short kickouts and feed both Ronan and JJ with quality ball then they have every opportunity. On the otherhand just when you think there is a chink in the cross armour they come back and bite you in the ass. Hard one to call but I feel for the sake of Armagh Football a Pearse Ogs victory (as much as we will hear about it) >:( is needed more that a 13th Cross title.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 13, 2008, 01:06:01 PM
CATCH 22 situation:

I would love someone to stop Cross but don't want it to be the arch enemy...
To be honest I cant see Og's beating them, Cross will have known they got away with it in the semi and will rectify their mistakes. Pearse Og have no midfield worth talking about and if they have to move RC outfield to bolster that area they will have far less fire power up front!!

On the other hand XMG's full back line is suspect and if KK and Ming Morrisson can do damage there what can Ronan Clarke do?? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 13, 2008, 02:01:56 PM
Quote
Have Madden won div 3 then?

Yup... they won it last week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 13, 2008, 03:31:18 PM
Candyman were Cross 1/14 to win the championship before the Harps game or was that the betting just to beat the Harps????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 13, 2008, 03:53:35 PM
That was the betting just for the Harps game!!
Think Harps were 8/1...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 13, 2008, 06:17:35 PM
its just a pitty cullyhanna does not meet the bridge so we would all see a blood bath.lucky for the bridge they dont meet cullyhanna ha ha ha   ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 13, 2008, 07:03:44 PM
Quotepog before you make cheat comments about Hearty, you should look at the referee in your own club
Nonsense, he's one of the best in the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 13, 2008, 07:09:35 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 13, 2008, 07:03:44 PM
Quotepog before you make cheat comments about Hearty, you should look at the referee in your own club
Nonsense, he's one of the best in the county.

I hear that Cross are refusing to play matches referred by Quigley and have already forfeited points in underage matches over this. Any of yis know the background to this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on October 13, 2008, 08:55:23 PM
is the county final going to be broadcast online again this year? I think it was on TG3 or 4 last year with audio on Northern Sound for those who can't follow the native tongue.

Any ideas boys?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on October 13, 2008, 09:14:28 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 13, 2008, 07:09:35 PM
I hear that Cross are refusing to play matches referred by Quigley and have already forfeited points in underage matches over this. Any of yis know the background to this?

As far as I know this is correct TAM, and from an incident earlier this season we have informed the south board / county board that we have followed suit
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 13, 2008, 09:41:04 PM
Been off the board for a while there... driving around the town tonight there and I see that they have started putting the Ogs Flags up again. The atmosphere feels a bit more subdued compared to the hype last year when facing the mighty Cross but I think this could be a more determined and quiet confidence. I'd be happy bettin on the Ogs at 7-2 but then again I'm biased. Was there odds there on a City double anyone?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 13, 2008, 09:45:52 PM
paudie is by far the worse ref in armagh a guy you can not talk to with out fighting with him he thinks he is above every one eles.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 13, 2008, 09:50:44 PM
i would just like to wish cullyhanna all the best for saturday it would be a great send off for there player ciaran mc keever if they were to win it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 13, 2008, 10:43:56 PM
send off for ciaran? 
is he leaving st pats
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 13, 2008, 10:45:17 PM
I heard he was going to Dorsey.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 13, 2008, 10:48:42 PM
is he not from dorsey?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 14, 2008, 08:31:52 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 13, 2008, 07:03:44 PM
Quotepog before you make cheat comments about Hearty, you should look at the referee in your own club
Nonsense, he's one of the best in the county.

:D
At least you still have a sense of humour pog
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on October 14, 2008, 09:55:55 AM
I would nornally put Quigley down as the worst ref in the county but Hearty was an absolute disgrace on Sunday, it says something when your opponents reckon you were robbed! To add insult to injury he said after the game that he didn't realise it was an important game, we'll probably get hammered for our players crowding him after the game & shouting at him, yet he'll get away with shouting abuse at players, team officials, supporters, etc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on October 14, 2008, 10:03:00 AM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on October 14, 2008, 09:55:55 AM
I would nornally put Quigley down as the worst ref in the county but Hearty was an absolute disgrace on Sunday, it says something when your opponents reckon you were robbed! To add insult to injury he said after the game that he didn't realise it was an important game, we'll probably get hammered for our players crowding him after the game & shouting at him, yet he'll get away with shouting abuse at players, team officials, supporters, etc.

Nothing new there.. He is a right wee Hitler.  I think this was brought up at that special meeting with the Clubs and refs a couple of months ago and when someone said that referees have to be taking to account for performances and answering people back I dont think it went down too well with them!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on October 14, 2008, 10:18:51 AM
Should have added that ultimately it wasn't this match that cost us promotion, it was our performances in a few earlier games. Lest I be accused of sour grapes. Btw I was very impressed with Kieran Toner, he looks like an ideal replacement for McGrane.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 14, 2008, 10:31:39 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 19 OCTOBER 2008


Saturday 18 October

Intermediate Football Championship – Final (3.30)
Culloville v St Patrick's (Mickey Leonard) at Athletic Grounds
(Extra time, if required)

ACL – Division Two (5.00)
Wolfe Tone v Keady (Kevin Murtagh)

ACL – Division Four (2.00)
Middletown v Dorsey Emmett's (Henry McCloy)


Sunday 19 October

Senior Football Championship – Final (4.00)
Crossmaglen v Pearse Og (Rory Robinson) at Athletic Grounds

Minor Football Championship – Final (1.45)
Crossmaglen v Harps (Eamon Nugent) at Athletic Grounds


Why is there extra time fixed for the Intermediate Final, but not for the Senior Final ???
If it goes to a replay Aaron Kernan will have to chose between it & the International Rules
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on October 14, 2008, 11:48:29 AM
As far as im aware one of the ogs boys is getting married the friday after the final and so i dont think that they would want a replay either.

Count down is on. should be a good game. hope the weather is better than it is today!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 14, 2008, 12:18:58 PM
Quote from: full back on October 13, 2008, 12:45:01 PM
Quote from: Candyman on October 13, 2008, 12:41:10 PM
Thats fairly cut from the 1/14 they were at the semi stage!!  :o

That would tell you the difference between the Harps & the Ogs ;)
Funny the bookies had Cruppen and Mullaghbawn both down as favourites against the Harps as well, you know what that would tell me?  That the bookies know f**k all about club football, bit like yourself horse.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 14, 2008, 12:26:23 PM
Sorry for upsetting you Benny.................
Ok the Harps are better than the Ogs ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on October 14, 2008, 12:42:14 PM
Hi lads was wondering if any of yous had any details on that Charity match Dromintee are running and is it this weekend?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 14, 2008, 12:45:04 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on October 14, 2008, 12:42:14 PM
Hi lads was wondering if any of yous had any details on that Charity match Dromintee are running and is it this weekend?

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9523.0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on October 14, 2008, 12:49:39 PM
Good man full back- beat me to it.

A great evening/ nights craic is to be expected and hopefully a big crowd for a very very worthwhile cause!

CORN will be on later I would imagine to get us uptodate on proceedings!

Match throws in at 6.30
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 14, 2008, 01:27:53 PM
Yes Billy. 6.30pm. I had heard the Intermediate was being brought forward an hour to accomodate but apparently not. I know it would be weird for a charity match to interfere with a final, but an hour wouldn't be too much of a difference and it is a mighty cause.


Have not got an update in a few days. Just that there will be signed Pele and Maradonna jersies.

I think there will be a free kick competition at half time - Ross Carr and Mickey Linden v Cathal O'Rourke and a.n. other.

Dessie Dolan confirmed and a few Tyrone ones. Thomas Freeman also.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 14, 2008, 02:35:14 PM
correct corn once again the county board have shown they have no common sense. They would have known that Dromintee were going to be running this event and could have put the final forward an hour. I am sure neither of the teams would have rejected that proposal because as you say it is for a good cause. It sounds like it will be a good nights craic anyway hope all goes well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on October 14, 2008, 04:34:43 PM
Thanx lads much appreciated. Def think I will take that in as I will be down your neck of the woods coaching all weekend.  The lineup sounds good and Im sure there will be a decent crowd.  Will it be under lights and do Dromintee have a covered stand, Never been to their pitch before.

Maybe Im being totally stupid but what is the cause/charity being supported?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 14, 2008, 04:43:12 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 14, 2008, 12:18:58 PM
Quote from: full back on October 13, 2008, 12:45:01 PM
Quote from: Candyman on October 13, 2008, 12:41:10 PM
Thats fairly cut from the 1/14 they were at the semi stage!!  :o

That would tell you the difference between the Harps & the Ogs ;)
Funny the bookies had Cruppen and Mullaghbawn both down as favourites against the Harps as well, you know what that would tell me?  That the bookies know f**k all about club football, bit like yourself horse.

would agree with that. i remember last year in lurgan they had the tones at 4/1 to beat ballyhegan and they where the division above them.  fair few punters got on eventually got backed in to 5/2 we won by 2 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on October 14, 2008, 04:48:35 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 14, 2008, 04:43:12 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 14, 2008, 12:18:58 PM
Quote from: full back on October 13, 2008, 12:45:01 PM
Quote from: Candyman on October 13, 2008, 12:41:10 PM
Thats fairly cut from the 1/14 they were at the semi stage!!  :o

That would tell you the difference between the Harps & the Ogs ;)
Funny the bookies had Cruppen and Mullaghbawn both down as favourites against the Harps as well, you know what that would tell me?  That the bookies know f**k all about club football, bit like yourself horse.

would agree with that. i remember last year in lurgan they had the tones at 4/1 to beat ballyhegan and they where the division above them.  fair few punters got on eventually got backed in to 5/2 we won by 2 points

I knew enough, I f**king pointed it out to a few ppl iiiii

Plus I was the wan who got the odds cut once I had my taster... The early bird an all that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 14, 2008, 05:50:26 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 14, 2008, 01:27:53 PM
Yes Billy. 6.30pm. I had heard the Intermediate was being brought forward an hour to accomodate but apparently not. I know it would be weird for a charity match to interfere with a final, but an hour wouldn't be too much of a difference and it is a mighty cause.


Have not got an update in a few days. Just that there will be signed Pele and Maradonna jersies.

I think there will be a free kick competition at half time - Ross Carr and Mickey Linden v Cathal O'Rourke and a.n. other.

Dessie Dolan confirmed and a few Tyrone ones. Thomas Freeman also.

Maybe if yis organised somebody to collect for the cause at the Intermediate final? Fully intended going to Dromintee but mightn't now with the 2 games on the one day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 14, 2008, 07:44:02 PM
Quote
Why is there extra time fixed for the Intermediate Final, but not for the Senior Final Huh
If it goes to a replay Aaron Kernan will have to chose between it & the International Rules
Ridiculous.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 14, 2008, 10:22:03 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on October 14, 2008, 04:34:43 PM
Thanx lads much appreciated. Def think I will take that in as I will be down your neck of the woods coaching all weekend.  The lineup sounds good and Im sure there will be a decent crowd.  Will it be under lights and do Dromintee have a covered stand, Never been to their pitch before.

Maybe Im being totally stupid but what is the cause/charity being supported?

All the proceeds are going to The Irish Air Ambulance service, which will cover 19 counties in Ireland. There is currently none in the country but it is due to begin next June. Will have a full-time truama surgeon on board - e.g can work on pateints wit great exertise on way to hospital. There are someting like 12 in England and the statistics are amazing. (Apologies for my spelling but I have a wireless keyboad and the batteries are dying so it is missing ou letters)

Yes under lights - we have decent lights alright now. No covered stand, we actually have a small enough viewing area and I was concerned bt we held an Intermediae semi or final last year and t was packed and there were no complaints.

Kevin Cassidy and Owen Mullgan added to the list.

TAC- good idea, i'll mention that. And I firmly expect you to chose this over the Cullyhanna match.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on October 14, 2008, 10:28:40 PM
Fully intened to take in the Intermediate final in Armagh then back up the road in the evening to Drumintee.
Whats the clubhouse like in Drumintee these days. Would it be worth hanging around for a feed of pints Corn??

Fancy Culloville for the Int. Last years heartache to provide the motivation to carry them across the line.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 14, 2008, 10:39:50 PM
We have a big marquee out YIW. Our main hall is a general GAA hall but a few years ago we opened up a new wee bar called "An Spelig". It is one of the best GAA bars I have ever been in. Stick around surely, I think Brolly and Tierney will be doing the auction /craic and there will be plenty of pints flowing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 15, 2008, 08:10:56 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 14, 2008, 04:43:12 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 14, 2008, 12:18:58 PM
Quote from: full back on October 13, 2008, 12:45:01 PM
Quote from: Candyman on October 13, 2008, 12:41:10 PM
Thats fairly cut from the 1/14 they were at the semi stage!!  :o

That would tell you the difference between the Harps & the Ogs ;)
Funny the bookies had Cruppen and Mullaghbawn both down as favourites against the Harps as well, you know what that would tell me?  That the bookies know f**k all about club football, bit like yourself horse.

would agree with that. i remember last year in lurgan they had the tones at 4/1 to beat ballyhegan and they where the division above them.  fair few punters got on eventually got backed in to 5/2 we won by 2 points

The only reason the 2 clubs were in different leagues, is because we play without our county men for the majority of the season.

It was also a last minute goal that won that game for the tones... there must have been a few sweating!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on October 15, 2008, 08:59:44 AM
any other predictions on the intermediate final?

Winners will meet the derry winners Greenlough in the first round of Ulster.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on October 15, 2008, 11:31:34 AM
Cullyhanna by four.
Culloville look tired and may have used all their luck to get past Lissummon, Tones and Silverbridge. Should be a great game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 15, 2008, 12:17:41 PM
Crossmaglen 1/6
Draw           10/1                 (Paddy Power Betting)
Pearse Og    9/2

I'll take XMG by 4.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 15, 2008, 12:40:19 PM
Cross by 3

St Pats by 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on October 15, 2008, 01:02:48 PM
Ogs by 2

St Pats by 1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 15, 2008, 02:01:13 PM
I'd say Cross got their wake up call in the semi and will win fairly handily.  Cross by 5 & Cullyhanna by at least 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 15, 2008, 02:11:33 PM
Thats my think also Benny.
Hank has Ogs by 2, if anything it'll be the bare minimum....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 15, 2008, 02:43:37 PM
Cross are less likely to be beaten in the final than in an earlier round. They may have been a touch complacent against Harps because of the margin against Clan na Geal, but will not be so this time.  St Pats to shade the Intermediate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 15, 2008, 02:47:24 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 15, 2008, 02:43:37 PM
Cross are less likely to be beaten in the final than in an earlier round. They may have been a touch complacent against Harps because of the margin against Clan na Geal, but will not be so this time.  St Pats to shade the Intermediate.

Playing in the Athletic Grounds has to be advantage to the Ogs. Could be a tight one if the Ogs play inteligently, and give everything!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on October 15, 2008, 02:49:58 PM
depends what time the drumarg residents light their fires!!lol.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on October 15, 2008, 03:30:41 PM
Congrats to Ronan Clarke on the All Star.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 15, 2008, 03:43:44 PM
Goats when you say that the Athletic grounds will be an advantage to the Og, do you mean in comparison to the Cross having a home game ???

I couldn't think of any other way in which the Athletics grounds would benefit them. If anything it would suit the Cross more because it isn't the widest or longest of pitches so this would tend to suit the more physical team, which would be cross. I would have thought the Og's would have benifitted more from a larger pitch because what i have seen they would have more pace.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 15, 2008, 03:57:55 PM
The Ogs players will see it as a home game. They've all had underage success on that field!

& yes it's not in Cross!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on October 15, 2008, 04:35:34 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on October 15, 2008, 02:49:58 PM
depends what time the drumarg residents light their fires!!lol.


Do they still make human sacrifices on a Sunday afternoon?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on October 15, 2008, 04:36:28 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on October 15, 2008, 03:30:41 PM
Congrats to Ronan Clarke on the All Star.

?????????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 15, 2008, 04:40:49 PM


The only reason the 2 clubs were in different leagues, is because we play without our county men for the majority of the season.

It was also a last minute goal that won that game for the tones... there must have been a few sweating!
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still a ridiculous price to have a team 4/1 against a team a division below imo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 15, 2008, 04:51:38 PM
much in the senior game will depend on the mf battle.  cross where poor in this sector against harps but on paper you would say that ogs wouldnt have the strongest or most settled midfield.  i think that cross will have learnt alot from the semi final and invariably whenever you start to doubt them the come back to bight you.  will be interesting to see how they deal with clarke though as morrison gave bellew a torrid time the last day and clarke is a different animal.   cross by 4

saw cullyhanna in the semi against sarsfields was very impressed seemed a very fit and well drilled team.  saw culloville against the tones twice mcgeeney is a good chf and 2 corner forwards caused problems.  they seemed very one dimensional though get the ball in high and early though it worked for them as we have 2 young corner backs who lack height.  cullaville seem to have a poor enough full back line and didnt seem to overlike the physcal stuff.  on the performances i have seen i would say cullyhanna at a canter but championship football not like that and they will want to re-write last years wrongs.  cullyhanna by 3 though and should give ulster a good rattle to boot
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 15, 2008, 06:54:32 PM
Cross by 4+ unfortunately I think. Don't see the Athletic Grounds as ebing anything more than the slightest of advantages for Ógs, and certainly not to the same extent as games in Cross suited Rangers. Wasn't overly impressed by the Ógs against Killeavy and I don't think Cross have really gotten out of 3rd gear yet.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on October 15, 2008, 08:32:33 PM
Congrats to Ronan on his second All Star.....I think Cross will win comfortably....1-15   0-8.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 15, 2008, 09:09:15 PM
Well Done Clarkey

I can see the ogs beating Cross by 5/6 points

Cullyhanna should win the Intermediate
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 15, 2008, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 15, 2008, 03:43:44 PM
Goats when you say that the Athletic grounds will be an advantage to the Og, do you mean in comparison to the Cross having a home game ???

Clans didn't make much use of the neutral venue in Cruppen this year.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on October 15, 2008, 09:56:39 PM
Cross comfortably for me with 5 or six points to spare. I dont think that the Ogs will be able to get enough ball into their forwards.

The intermediate should be a cracker. I saw both games between Cullyhanna and Culloville this season and one was a close tight game with both sides almost af full strength which the blues won. the other was and end of season fixture which the pats won comfortably with Culloville understrength.Big danger for Cullyhanna is a good Culloville forward line. If our fellas play to their best however though i think we can win. Getting that best performance has always been tough for us in finals.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 16, 2008, 08:27:40 AM
Well done to Clarke!!

Hopefully he adds his 1st senior c'ship medal this wkend, I'll take the Ogs by 3, it'll take one hell of a team effort but it can be done.
Playing Cross outside of Cross def should be a weight of the shoulders of the Ogs boys. Roll on Sunday!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 16, 2008, 09:25:08 AM
Quote from: crossfire on October 15, 2008, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 15, 2008, 03:43:44 PM
Goats when you say that the Athletic grounds will be an advantage to the Og, do you mean in comparison to the Cross having a home game ???

Clans didn't make much use of the neutral venue in Cruppen this year.  ::)

It wouldn't have mattered if the game was in Davitt Park and we had 18 men playing we would still have lost the way Cross played that day and God help the Ogs if they decide to play like that on Sunday...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 16, 2008, 09:37:29 AM
Congratulations to Ronan on his Second Allstar, totally deserved noone can argue,

On Sundays game, lets hope its a brilliant game, with the 2 best teams in the county over this past few years going head to head. I hope the Ogs win and dont let cross get on top in the early exchanges otherwise they will will romp home. I seen the Ogs against Granemore and one thing they will need to improve on is their Discipline, there was 2/3 occasions when the ref carried the ball for boys giving off to the ref, against cross they cant afford to do this, they will crucified for it.

Best of luck to the Ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 16, 2008, 10:00:11 AM
Well done to the big man on the allstar, (cant believe he's not going to oz)

Good luuck to the Coco & Co on Sunday, dont let Cross steal another one!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on October 16, 2008, 10:21:27 AM
Quote from: illdecide on October 16, 2008, 09:25:08 AM
Quote from: crossfire on October 15, 2008, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 15, 2008, 03:43:44 PM
Goats when you say that the Athletic grounds will be an advantage to the Og, do you mean in comparison to the Cross having a home game ???

Clans didn't make much use of the neutral venue in Cruppen this year.  ::)

It wouldn't have mattered if the game was in Davitt Park and we had 18 men playing we would still have lost the way Cross played that day and God help the Ogs if they decide to play like that on Sunday...

i iwas to be harsh ID i would say they played as well as they were let
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 16, 2008, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: Candyman on October 15, 2008, 12:17:41 PM
Crossmaglen 1/6
Draw           10/1                 (Paddy Power Betting)
Pearse Og    9/2

I'll take XMG by 4.


Boylesports

Crossmaglen 1/4
Draw           9/1
Pearse Og    7/2

A wee shift in the thinking here??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 16, 2008, 12:07:18 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 16, 2008, 10:00:11 AM

Good luuck to the Coco & Co on Sunday, dont let Cross steal another one!

Sour Grapes ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 16, 2008, 12:32:24 PM
Quote from: Uladh on October 16, 2008, 10:21:27 AM
Quote from: illdecide on October 16, 2008, 09:25:08 AM
Quote from: crossfire on October 15, 2008, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 15, 2008, 03:43:44 PM
Goats when you say that the Athletic grounds will be an advantage to the Og, do you mean in comparison to the Cross having a home game ???

Clans didn't make much use of the neutral venue in Cruppen this year.  ::)

It wouldn't have mattered if the game was in Davitt Park and we had 18 men playing we would still have lost the way Cross played that day and God help the Ogs if they decide to play like that on Sunday...

i iwas to be harsh ID i would say they played as well as they were let

Well then Uladh you have it sussed...fair play to ya, i knew you were good but where did you pull that one from...P McDonnell watch you're job...Uladh is coming to get you
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 16, 2008, 12:55:37 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 16, 2008, 12:07:18 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 16, 2008, 10:00:11 AM

Good luuck to the Coco & Co on Sunday, dont let Cross steal another one!

Sour Grapes ??? ???
Think it's in reference to the minors.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 16, 2008, 01:01:47 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 16, 2008, 12:55:37 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 16, 2008, 12:07:18 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 16, 2008, 10:00:11 AM

Good luuck to the Coco & Co on Sunday, dont let Cross steal another one!

Sour Grapes ??? ???
Think it's in reference to the minors.

I was thinkin that myself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 16, 2008, 05:58:54 PM
And they say it is us that always bring up the clans i'll decide???. Some of you guys can't stop talking about them.  Oh and Uladh i have no idea what that last post of yours was supposed to say.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 16, 2008, 08:18:53 PM
4 of the Harps minors can actually win the championship double when the minor hurling final is on next saturday. Just wondering if the double has been done before?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 16, 2008, 09:22:30 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 16, 2008, 08:18:53 PM
4 of the Harps minors can actually win the championship double when the minor hurling final is on next saturday. Just wondering if the double has been done before?

Know the ogs won 3 minors in a row in the early eighties when hurling was still strong... possibly a few of them could have won doubles
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on October 16, 2008, 11:03:34 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 16, 2008, 05:58:54 PM
And they say it is us that always bring up the clans i'll decide???. Some of you guys can't stop talking about them.  Oh and Uladh i have no idea what that last post of yours was supposed to say.

As is customary, the Clans are only cited as an example of what not to do...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 16, 2008, 11:31:55 PM
going to the cullyhanna game on saturday in armagh it should be a good game off football.weather wise it gives showers but not to be as bad as sunday.if cullyhanna are winning coming near the end they will win it they are a team that fights to the end i seen them play alot this year as good a cullyhanna team i have seen in a long while just want to wish steven conor and martin all the best for saturday GOOD LUCK..........
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on October 17, 2008, 07:49:32 AM
Good Luck to Harps Minors on Sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 17, 2008, 09:43:56 AM

As is customary, the Clans are only cited as an example of what not to do...
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You really should learn to get over the anxiety you clearly have at the past successes of the clans Uladh. The obsession you have is really really pityful in many ways. Hating a team that much, that you feel you have to refer to them at every opportunity on every subject is pathetic. It is a bit like Pints with the cullyhanna team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 17, 2008, 10:24:25 AM
Heart Cross, heads not sure yet.  Will Og's be driven by past failures to undo some of their perceived injustices?  Will they use the feel good factor from Clarkie's All Star to motivate them even further?  Will Cross be Cross and drive on in a final like they always do or will the pressure of the magnitude of teh game get to some of them?  If the minors win, which they could, will they build on the confidence that they garner from that and win it out?  So many variables!!!

On an aside to the whole thing, a fact came out of the semis that I doubt if too many here have realised in regards to the all new Athletic Grounds.  Cross were not able to tog out in the changing rooms of the wonderful new facility.  There are 4 dressing rooms and no referees room, therefore the ref had to change in one of the rooms.  Cross togged out in Callinbridge, did their warm up and arrived tooged out.  They had no changing room as the other game wasn't finished.  This is a disgrace that this can happen at a place where so much money has been invested.  The whole lot should have been sold 10 years ago to a developer, as was suggested at the time, and a new greenfield site developed.  The visionaries that are the county board threw this back and although it may seem like a great venture it is well short of requirements yet.

Cross minors by 2

Cross seniors by 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on October 17, 2008, 10:29:53 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 15, 2008, 06:54:32 PM
Cross by 4+ unfortunately I think. Don't see the Athletic Grounds as ebing anything more than the slightest of advantages for Ógs, and certainly not to the same extent as games in Cross suited Rangers. Wasn't overly impressed by the Ógs against Killeavy and I don't think Cross have really gotten out of 3rd gear yet.



I agree Tac.  Ogs looked pretty average in the semi against a very very poor killeavey team that they struggled to put away despite the amout of possession they had. Killeavey were still in with a shout right up until the end and if S McDonnell had taken one of those goal chances it could have been a very different story.  Only R Clarke, who was on fire that day, Mc kinney and A Mallon looked better than the very poor opposition they were facing.

I honestly think Cross have still another gear or 2 in them and as much as Ogs winning would help the game in Armagh they have problems at mid-field and what do they do if clarke isnt scoring 1-5 or 1-6? They dont have enough ascoring forwards from what Ive seen of them and I think Cross will win but it will be tighter than last year...I hope.

Ps. Hope OGs fans dont start that booing and jeering they were at in the semi, when opposition are hitting frees, its not soccer and there is no place for that crap in our games. I have only ever heard that rubbish twice before and it was from Monaghan supporters who are usually mouths with no manners, both times.  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 17, 2008, 10:35:52 AM
Has the injuries that Cross had cleared up?
Will Mc Kenna & Oisin start?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MrTaylor on October 17, 2008, 11:09:42 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 16, 2008, 08:18:53 PM
4 of the Harps minors can actually win the championship double when the minor hurling final is on next saturday. Just wondering if the double has been done before?

Happened in 1981, 1982 and 1983. Ógs and Cúchulainns both won three in a row. A lot of guys from that period have three football and three hurling.

Is minor final definitely next Saturday, and what is venue?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 17, 2008, 11:57:58 AM
Quote from: MrTaylor on October 17, 2008, 11:09:42 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 16, 2008, 08:18:53 PM
4 of the Harps minors can actually win the championship double when the minor hurling final is on next saturday. Just wondering if the double has been done before?

Happened in 1981, 1982 and 1983. Ógs and Cúchulainns both won three in a row. A lot of guys from that period have three football and three hurling.

Is minor final definitely next Saturday, and what is venue?

The venue has still to be arranged but I think the Athletic Grounds has been Marked for it. It on next Saturday but if the Harps Minors draw then it could be put back. Middletown are big favourates, but we'll see what happens.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 17, 2008, 12:18:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 17, 2008, 10:24:25 AM
Heart Cross, heads not sure yet.  Will Og's be driven by past failures to undo some of their perceived injustices?  Will they use the feel good factor from Clarkie's All Star to motivate them even further?  Will Cross be Cross and drive on in a final like they always do or will the pressure of the magnitude of teh game get to some of them?  If the minors win, which they could, will they build on the confidence that they garner from that and win it out?  So many variables!!!

On an aside to the whole thing, a fact came out of the semis that I doubt if too many here have realised in regards to the all new Athletic Grounds.  Cross were not able to tog out in the changing rooms of the wonderful new facility.  There are 4 dressing rooms and no referees room, therefore the ref had to change in one of the rooms.  Cross togged out in Callinbridge, did their warm up and arrived tooged out.  They had no changing room as the other game wasn't finished.  This is a disgrace that this can happen at a place where so much money has been invested.  The whole lot should have been sold 10 years ago to a developer, as was suggested at the time, and a new greenfield site developed.  The visionaries that are the county board threw this back and although it may seem like a great venture it is well short of requirements yet.

Cross minors by 2

Cross seniors by 3

It was the same for Ná Claírsígh. BTW there are now only 2 dressing rooms as the previous 4 were too small so they knocked 2 into 1 on each side. There is also a referees room, where our players had to use the only toilet available.....  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 17, 2008, 12:23:14 PM
We were in the changing rooms the Thursday night before your game Candyman and all the facilities were working fine then, maybe a bit of scullduggery between the thurs and the sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 17, 2008, 12:36:19 PM
I would suggest the fact that both Pearse Og and Killeavy were in the changing rooms at the time had something to do with it...
I didnt say the facilities were not working, I stated the referee's toilet was the ONLY 1 available at that time!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 17, 2008, 12:40:31 PM
Quote from: Candyman on October 17, 2008, 12:18:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 17, 2008, 10:24:25 AM
Heart Cross, heads not sure yet.  Will Og's be driven by past failures to undo some of their perceived injustices?  Will they use the feel good factor from Clarkie's All Star to motivate them even further?  Will Cross be Cross and drive on in a final like they always do or will the pressure of the magnitude of teh game get to some of them?  If the minors win, which they could, will they build on the confidence that they garner from that and win it out?  So many variables!!!

On an aside to the whole thing, a fact came out of the semis that I doubt if too many here have realised in regards to the all new Athletic Grounds.  Cross were not able to tog out in the changing rooms of the wonderful new facility.  There are 4 dressing rooms and no referees room, therefore the ref had to change in one of the rooms.  Cross togged out in Callinbridge, did their warm up and arrived tooged out.  They had no changing room as the other game wasn't finished.  This is a disgrace that this can happen at a place where so much money has been invested.  The whole lot should have been sold 10 years ago to a developer, as was suggested at the time, and a new greenfield site developed.  The visionaries that are the county board threw this back and although it may seem like a great venture it is well short of requirements yet.

Cross minors by 2

Cross seniors by 3

It was the same for Ná Claírsígh. BTW there are now only 2 dressing rooms as the previous 4 were too small so they knocked 2 into 1 on each side. There is also a referees room, where our players had to use the only toilet available.....  :-\

It's worse than I thought then.  This field is not fit for a double header of any kind whenever this is the state of play.  On Sunday, obviously Cross Minors and seniors can use one room, but will Harps and the Ogs share as well? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 17, 2008, 12:50:16 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 17, 2008, 12:40:31 PM


It's worse than I thought then.  This field is not fit for a double header of any kind whenever this is the state of play.  On Sunday, obviously Cross Minors and seniors can use one room, but will Harps and the Ogs share as well? 

Share the spoils?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 17, 2008, 01:18:03 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on October 17, 2008, 12:50:16 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 17, 2008, 12:40:31 PM


It's worse than I thought then.  This field is not fit for a double header of any kind whenever this is the state of play.  On Sunday, obviously Cross Minors and seniors can use one room, but will Harps and the Ogs share as well? 

Share the spoils?  ;)

maybe?? :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 17, 2008, 01:19:10 PM
Have Cross a full panel to choose from bc?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 17, 2008, 01:20:37 PM
I'm sure if youse hada asked nicely Candyman The Ogs woulda let ye's use their toilets, the sight of a few Harpsmen kacking themselves would bring a smile to anyones face  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 17, 2008, 01:23:50 PM
Quote from: full back on October 17, 2008, 01:19:10 PM
Have Cross a full panel to choose from bc?

Haven't been speaking to anyone this week.  There were a few doubts at the weekend so don't know if they have cleared up yet.  Don't think David will be fit to start though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 17, 2008, 01:58:47 PM
Can someone explain to me the involvement of the og's and the new athletic grounds. Do the og's own it?? will they be returning to it as there home pitch??? If so what will happen to Ballycrummy??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 17, 2008, 02:10:46 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 17, 2008, 01:58:47 PM
Can someone explain to me the involvement of the og's and the new athletic grounds. Do the og's own it?? will they be returning to it as there home pitch??? If so what will happen to Ballycrummy??

Pearse Og never had a pitch of their own and always used the athletic grounds for home games. They then got hold of Ballycrummy on long term lease and that is their home venue.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 17, 2008, 02:11:59 PM
AFAIK the Ogs are committed to Ballycrummy for the long term and are planning on developing permanent changing facilities at some stage. The County Board own the Athletic grounds and always have i think, years ago because the Ogs had no 'home' pitch the gaelic field was declared as our home venue
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on October 17, 2008, 02:13:28 PM
The county board own the athletic grounds. Pearse Og Park is the home of the ogs now. There has been a great deal of developement to it and still more to come. I believe the ogs had to sell the athletic grounds to the county board in the early nineties and then had to pay some sort of fee to play on it due to struggling financially. they therefore had no pitch of their own throughout that time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 17, 2008, 02:23:52 PM
Quote from: bubbles on October 17, 2008, 02:13:28 PM
The county board own the athletic grounds. Pearse Og Park is the home of the ogs now. There has been a great deal of developement to it and still more to come. I believe the ogs had to sell the athletic grounds to the county board in the early nineties and then had to pay some sort of fee to play on it due to struggling financially. they therefore had no pitch of their own throughout that time.

Pearse Og never owned the Athletic Grounds
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 17, 2008, 03:08:29 PM
Lads just re: Athletic Ground problems. I know they are pretty inexcusable but let's not be too harsh. Teething problems and hopefully it gets sorted. A new site should always have been developed but it wasn't and were stuck with. It may have taken far too long but at least things are going the right direction, hopefully the final touches will be added.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on October 17, 2008, 03:19:11 PM
The gaelic field/ athletic grounds WAS originally the pearse ogs field and had to be sold to the county board
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 17, 2008, 03:24:30 PM
When???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 17, 2008, 03:29:47 PM
Someone said this happened in the early 90's ??? I was just wondering because i wasn't sure how with the new setup things would work for the ogs. So there will be no club team playing on the Athletic grounds so it won't be reverting back to the way it was before it was done up.

Another question for you lads?? Do the og's still have their clubhouse down beside the Athletic grounds?? It is years since i have been down that way.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on October 17, 2008, 04:01:30 PM
clubhouse is still there
all done up too - nice spot

I remember when it was blown up - my da lost heart in the place after that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 17, 2008, 04:22:08 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on October 17, 2008, 04:01:30 PM
clubhouse is still there
all done up too - nice spot

I remember when it was blown up - my da lost heart in the place after that
The Ceannarus was blown up - the Club never was AFAIK, the club used to be at the St Brigid's end and was burned down accidentally and rebuilt close to the Ceannarus.  Joe Houlahan gets dogs abuse to this day about his indoor barbecues  :D

The Gaelic Field was used by Harps and Ogs for a long time, I think the Ogs did get sole ownership at some point.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 17, 2008, 04:31:18 PM
QuoteHeart Cross, heads not sure yet.  Will Og's be driven by past failures to undo some of their perceived injustices?  Will they use the feel good factor from Clarkie's All Star to motivate them even further?  Will Cross be Cross and drive on in a final like they always do or will the pressure of the magnitude of teh game get to some of them?  If the minors win, which they could, will they build on the confidence that they garner from that and win it out?  So many variables!!!

Come on BC, you're taking the amatuer kidology a bit far there. Clarke's All Star is hardly going to be a factor, nor is the minor match!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 17, 2008, 04:55:31 PM
Cullyhanna IMHO have a stronger team so I am going to go for them by 3/4 points.
Mind you the luck has hung out of Culloville so far this year (Tones games, referee decision against Bridge)

If Cross perform the way they did against Clans they will blow the Ogs away. Think the Ogs will play better than they did last year but still fancy Cross by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 17, 2008, 05:11:32 PM
Quote from: Candyman on October 17, 2008, 02:23:52 PM
Quote from: bubbles on October 17, 2008, 02:13:28 PM
The county board own the athletic grounds. Pearse Og Park is the home of the ogs now. There has been a great deal of developement to it and still more to come. I believe the ogs had to sell the athletic grounds to the county board in the early nineties and then had to pay some sort of fee to play on it due to struggling financially. they therefore had no pitch of their own throughout that time.

Pearse Og never owned the Athletic Grounds

The Ogs Had to sell the Athletic Grounds to the county board in the early 90's (as Bubbles said) due to financial difficulties.

There have been plans passed for a new stand and changing rooms at Ballycrummy which the Ogs have on long term lease with the option of buying once the lease has expired.

The Ogs Clubs house burned down and has been replaced at a different location on the Dalton Road end beside the Ceannaras
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 17, 2008, 05:20:36 PM
Quote from: full back on October 17, 2008, 01:19:10 PM
Have Cross a full panel to choose from bc?

Apart from Brendan "Skinney" Mc Keown who has a long term injury. the only player not able to start is SK.
David and Oisin are apparently fit and available for selection

Despite not playing at our best in the semi final i still expect us to shade it against Ogs provided we limit the supply of ball going into RC.
The Ogs posters have hardly mentioned the game at all compared to last year ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 17, 2008, 05:37:46 PM
Ogs +5 at Evens with Paddypower is tempting.  Haven't seen any prices about town.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on October 17, 2008, 07:07:14 PM
sorry I should have clarified - I didn't mean that the club house was burned down

My da was a Handballer - never set foot back when their own blew the place up

Best of luck to all the Ogs lads on Sunday - hopefully the town gives you the support you deserve and all the boys play their hearts out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 18, 2008, 07:39:05 AM
What time is the Intermediate final on at today - 3.30?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 18, 2008, 10:31:46 AM
Good luck to Dromintee with their game forr worthy cause, alas I cannot attend this or the other events on a busy weekend in Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 18, 2008, 11:26:10 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 17, 2008, 04:31:18 PM
QuoteHeart Cross, heads not sure yet.  Will Og's be driven by past failures to undo some of their perceived injustices?  Will they use the feel good factor from Clarkie's All Star to motivate them even further?  Will Cross be Cross and drive on in a final like they always do or will the pressure of the magnitude of teh game get to some of them?  If the minors win, which they could, will they build on the confidence that they garner from that and win it out?  So many variables!!!

Come on BC, you're taking the amatuer kidology a bit far there. Clarke's All Star is hardly going to be a factor, nor is the minor match!

I completely disagree TAC.  Are you trying to tell me that Clark will not be super confident after he has won an All Star?  Confident players play well and bring up the level of the players around him.  He is their main force and if he has a good game that will go a long way to helping them win. 

As regards the minore, I can't comment on your own club, but I know in Cross there is a very strong link between all the teams.  There will be a big lift to the seniors to keep the winning going if the minors also win.  I am not being smart here but the links betwene the teams is one of the reasons behind our success.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 18, 2008, 11:59:34 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 18, 2008, 11:26:10 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 17, 2008, 04:31:18 PM
QuoteHeart Cross, heads not sure yet.  Will Og's be driven by past failures to undo some of their perceived injustices?  Will they use the feel good factor from Clarkie's All Star to motivate them even further?  Will Cross be Cross and drive on in a final like they always do or will the pressure of the magnitude of teh game get to some of them?  If the minors win, which they could, will they build on the confidence that they garner from that and win it out?  So many variables!!!

Come on BC, you're taking the amatuer kidology a bit far there. Clarke's All Star is hardly going to be a factor, nor is the minor match!

I completely disagree TAC.  Are you trying to tell me that Clark will not be super confident after he has won an All Star?  Confident players play well and bring up the level of the players around him.  He is their main force and if he has a good game that will go a long way to helping them win. 

As regards the minore, I can't comment on your own club, but I know in Cross there is a very strong link between all the teams.  There will be a big lift to the seniors to keep the winning going if the minors also win.  I am not being smart here but the links betwene the teams is one of the reasons behind our success.

I don't think Clarke's All Star will have a huge impact. No more than say Kernan getting picked for the Ireland team. Pearse Ógs won't win because they don't have enough quality players to go alongside Clarke, albeit that Ronan will be the best footballer on this pitch.

And you're suggesting that Cross might be overawed by a county final?! Come on, you don't seriously expect us to believe that?! If Cross don't take Ógs for granted, they will win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on October 18, 2008, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 17, 2008, 09:43:56 AM

As is customary, the Clans are only cited as an example of what not to do...

You really should learn to get over the anxiety you clearly have at the past successes of the clans Uladh. The obsession you have is really really pityful in many ways. Hating a team that much, that you feel you have to refer to them at every opportunity on every subject is pathetic. It is a bit like Pints with the cullyhanna team.
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I certainly don't hate the clans... like them a little less than most clubs because of the renowned slabbering from players and suppporters... but that's no reason to hate anyone. obviously you'll think that's because you are such a "successful" club  :D

You thinking that anyone cares enough about clans to refer to them at every opportunity is sad.

now, the sooner you realise that your place is in the mediocre section with most of the rest of us the better it will be for the us all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 18, 2008, 12:12:02 PM
TAC, the Og's are a quality side and only for a bit of bad luck over the years they would have beaten us once or twice.  If all things fall their way, and one of those is that Clarke has a massive game, they can beat Cross. 

I am not saying that Cross will be overawed, but you can never underestimate the effect of winning on any team.  From experience it is worth a few scores.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on October 18, 2008, 12:23:15 PM

Best of luck to both teams today and great to see the athletic grounds hosting the county final again.

Haven't seen either team this year so who knows but as has been said many many many times cross' run will end some day!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 18, 2008, 02:33:32 PM
Intermediate final prediction.

St Pat's by a point after extra time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 18, 2008, 04:15:46 PM
Ogs to win by 1-3 points (6-1 Paddy Power)

if this happens there will be no work next week as the bookie will cover it 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on October 18, 2008, 05:29:03 PM
What was the final score in this afternoons Intermediate Football Final between Culloville and St Patrick's?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 18, 2008, 05:47:46 PM
13-5 to cullyhanna
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 18, 2008, 06:03:45 PM
Dire game, Cullyhanna just bossed it from start to finish, only Johnny McGeeney and the FB played any at all for Cullaville. McGeeney prob lucky to stay on the field, should have had a straight red but got a yellow and then should have got another yellow shortly after, but the ref obviously felt sorry for them by that stage - Colm O'Rourke would probably call him a bit of a pup.  Cullyhanna really played as a team with all their big names all to the fore, should give the Ulster a good rattle I'd imagine.

The second County final in a row were you could have went home at HT, hope the Ogs dont make it a hat trick tommorrow.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 18, 2008, 06:04:18 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on October 18, 2008, 05:47:46 PM
13-5 to cullyhanna

Poor game.  Cullaville never raised a challenge.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 18, 2008, 06:50:06 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on October 18, 2008, 05:47:46 PM
13-5 to cullyhanna

Hard luck Mr. twotwo

Absolutely thrilled with the result  ;D

The whole team was absolutely brilliant. Yes, Culloville didn't perform on the day but they weren't allowed to play. St Pat's got a hold of the game early on and didn't relinquish their grip on proceedings until well into the second half when the game was effectively over. Midfield today was superb. Mal Mackin and Ciaran O'Hare both had superb games. Provided the solid backbone we needed to go on and win the game. Took a few excellent scores as well at times. It was a good all round team performance but the best on the day were probably Shane Lennon, Ciaran O'Hare, Mal Mackin (man of the match I thought) and Shane McKeever.

Johnny McGeeney definately should have gotten the line but I think Benny's assesment of the ref's attitude is about right.

Ironically the tightest game we had in the championship was against a B team near the bottom of the 3rd division. By all accounts we were lucky to escape that night but it was a kick up the hole we needed. I don't like to get too far ahead of ourselves because we could soon get brought down to earth but I genuinely think we could give Ulster a good rattle this year.

Was tough on Culloville today. Their league position suggests they're a better side than that and losing a final 2 years in a row is bound to be gut wrenching. Still they'll be there or thereabouts next year I'm sure.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 18, 2008, 07:04:29 PM
The moy i would say will also be fancying their chances in the Ulster intermediate, thats saying they win their final tomorrow, the team is lined with county men, 2 cavanaghs, r mellon, p jordan, all all ireland winners this year, would be a great tussle, would love to see k mc keever and cavanagh mark each other, it would be worth the entrance fee alone,

Well Done Cullyhana
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on October 18, 2008, 07:20:18 PM
Firstly I would like to congratulate Cullyhanna on winning today, credit where credit is due, but surely the last comment reinforces the fact that the Armagh Intermediate Championship is NOT Actually the Armagh Intermediate Championship. Today we had a final with 2 Divison one sides competing, while tomorrows SENIOR final sees another 2 Division One sides! Surely, for the good of Armagh Club Football, we must have a league system whereby your final league standing decides what Championship you play in the following year ie Top 16 compete for the Senior Championship, Next 16 compete for the Intermediate etc, only then can we expect to have meaningful competitions. I'm quite sure this is a proposal that will receive alot of support from all Junior & Intermediate Clubs, as it will potentially do away with the possible pairing of a Divison 1 Side (St.Pat's Cullyhanna, Culloville) and Division 4 sides (In 2009 - Cross 2nds, and if they had of won this years Junior, Grange). Action is needed to address these unbalance's in our Championship's. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 18, 2008, 07:24:26 PM
Quote from: MOJO on October 18, 2008, 07:20:18 PM
Firstly I would like to congratulate Cullyhanna on winning today, credit where credit is due, but surely the last comment reinforces the fact that the Armagh Intermediate Championship is NOT Actually the Armagh Intermediate Championship. Today we had a final with 2 Divison one sides competing, while tomorrows SENIOR final sees another 2 Division One sides! Surely, for the good of Armagh Club Football, we must have a league system whereby your final league standing decides what Championship you play in the following year ie Top 16 compete for the Senior Championship, Next 16 compete for the Intermediate etc, only then can we expect to have meaningful competitions. I'm quite sure this is a proposal that will receive alot of support from all Junior & Intermediate Clubs, as it will potentially do away with the possible pairing of a Divison 1 Side (St.Pat's Cullyhanna, Culloville) and Division 4 sides (In 2009 - Cross 2nds, and if they had of won this years Junior, Grange). Action is needed to address these unbalance's in our Championship's. Any thoughts?

Absolutely spot on Mojo. But its up to the clubs to demand a sensible system from the county board. Just a slight point - it should be top 15 in the league and the intermediate champions in the senior championship (if the Intermediate champions were to finsih outside the top 16).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 18, 2008, 07:26:53 PM
Couldnt agree more mojo, Tyrone have the 3 league divisions and they are the 3 championships, thats the way it should be done, and do away with the 4th, each team will have more games to play, and also it should give teams with county players a chance to play some off their games with these players involved becasue the season will be longer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on October 18, 2008, 07:29:38 PM
Correct, the Intermediate Champions should automatically qualify for the following years Senior Championship, regardless of their final league standing!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 18, 2008, 07:35:51 PM
Quote from: MOJO on October 18, 2008, 07:20:18 PM
Firstly I would like to congratulate Cullyhanna on winning today, credit where credit is due, but surely the last comment reinforces the fact that the Armagh Intermediate Championship is NOT Actually the Armagh Intermediate Championship. Today we had a final with 2 Divison one sides competing, while tomorrows SENIOR final sees another 2 Division One sides! Surely, for the good of Armagh Club Football, we must have a league system whereby your final league standing decides what Championship you play in the following year ie Top 16 compete for the Senior Championship, Next 16 compete for the Intermediate etc, only then can we expect to have meaningful competitions. I'm quite sure this is a proposal that will receive alot of support from all Junior & Intermediate Clubs, as it will potentially do away with the possible pairing of a Divison 1 Side (St.Pat's Cullyhanna, Culloville) and Division 4 sides (In 2009 - Cross 2nds, and if they had of won this years Junior, Grange). Action is needed to address these unbalance's in our Championship's. Any thoughts?
I've argued the above plenty of times on this thread, the armagh system makes absoloutely no sense. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 18, 2008, 07:37:19 PM
It would be the sensible way to proceed.  It would probably have to go to the Co Board AGM, so get your proposals in at your club AGM's!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 18, 2008, 08:42:01 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 18, 2008, 08:27:32 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 18, 2008, 07:26:53 PM
Couldnt agree more mojo, Tyrone have the 3 league divisions and they are the 3 championships, thats the way it should be done, and do away with the 4th, each team will have more games to play, and also it should give teams with county players a chance to play some off their games with these players involved becasue the season will be longer.

Dunno if 3 divisions is the way to go. That would leave about 15 clubs in each division meaning that there'd be in the region of 30 league games to play a year, which would be a disaster. Some teams like Keady and Middletown would nearly need two years to complete one season's worth of league games at their current rate of going. 4 divisions is probably about right in terms of numbers of games to play.

On the championship, how about splitting the senior, inter and junior into the three 16s (give or take a couple in the junior) by using a UEFA coefficient points type system, where you could seed teams at the start of each championship based on league and championship performances over the previous 3 or 5 years?

Don't see the need to complicate it AFS. League positions is the fairest way to do it and everybody knows exactly what you have to do to get promoted or remain in the same grade.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on October 18, 2008, 10:54:32 PM
Poor affair in Armagh today.
Pats dominated from start to finish, and Culloville challenge faded very early.
Mal Mackin looked to be in decent shape around the middle while their half back line picked up all the breaks.
Two final defeats in a row must be a bitter pill to swallow for the men from Cullovile
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 19, 2008, 11:35:01 AM
lads are them time correct minor game 1:45 throw in and senior game 4:00?? If so why is there so big of a gap. Perhaps to make room in the changing rooms??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 19, 2008, 12:02:09 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 19, 2008, 11:35:01 AM
lads are them time correct minor game 1:45 throw in and senior game 4:00?? If so why is there so big of a gap. Perhaps to make room in the changing rooms??

Leaving the ground at yesterday's Intermediate final the PA system announced that the minor game was on at 2pm today.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 19, 2008, 12:22:02 PM
It's defo 1.45pm. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 19, 2008, 12:48:01 PM
and the senior game 4??? Benny
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 19, 2008, 12:51:01 PM
yes.  Nice wait in the wind & rain.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 19, 2008, 12:57:02 PM
It's a bit ridiculous!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 19, 2008, 01:08:51 PM
Agree there lads again it comes down to planning. They could have at least got a few skimpy dressed cheerleaders whilst we wait
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 19, 2008, 01:10:28 PM

I'm going to newry - couldn't be arsed with waiting around between games - does my head in
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Handy on October 19, 2008, 01:10:59 PM
Is the Cross v Ogs match on TG4?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 19, 2008, 01:54:11 PM
don't think so.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 19, 2008, 01:55:45 PM
No Tyrone semi and Kilkenny final is on.

Lads I posted last week to say that give the county board a break but this time thing is a joke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 19, 2008, 02:33:42 PM
Got a text to say that Harps minors are leading 17-2 at half time  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaa.boy on October 19, 2008, 03:09:10 PM
Final score: Harps 3:15 Cross 0:05
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on October 19, 2008, 03:24:14 PM
is the senior final on the radio?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaa.boy on October 19, 2008, 03:28:04 PM
Normally on fivefm.co.uk
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu08 on October 19, 2008, 03:39:08 PM
any scores from cross - ogs ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 19, 2008, 04:10:17 PM
20 mins gone
Cross 4
Ogs   2
Your man on five fm getting excited! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 19, 2008, 04:23:46 PM
Cross 5
Ogs   3

Bellew yellow card 26 gone
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 19, 2008, 04:27:20 PM
Cross - 5
Ogs - 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 19, 2008, 04:27:45 PM
Bellew picks up a yellow
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 19, 2008, 04:28:23 PM
Cross - 6
Ogs - 3
Mc Conville free
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 19, 2008, 04:30:15 PM
Cross - 6
Ogs - 4

Clarke free
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 19, 2008, 04:34:09 PM
HT
Cross 0-6
Ogs   0-5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu08 on October 19, 2008, 04:35:46 PM
seems to have the makings of a good final....any wind advantages in match ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: puskas on October 19, 2008, 04:36:40 PM
Ogs just a point behind despite playing against a very strong wind in the first half, with no Andy Mallon, and Paul Duffy off injured after a minute. All to play for.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 19, 2008, 04:36:58 PM
Ogs have a stiff breeze in the second half,

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carmen Stateside on October 19, 2008, 04:37:40 PM
Who is the Gregory Loughran? Is he a Tyrone man?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 19, 2008, 04:38:43 PM
Nope, lives in the town,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu08 on October 19, 2008, 04:54:26 PM
anyone know if i can listen to the game on the radio via sky channels ? im in work and computer speakers dont work :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 19, 2008, 04:58:14 PM
No Idea, get onto the latest scores thread
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: puskas on October 19, 2008, 05:05:59 PM
10-7 to cross, 7 frees from cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on October 19, 2008, 05:20:29 PM
Cross won 13-8.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: puskas on October 19, 2008, 05:21:19 PM
13-8 to cross, congrats to them, hard luck to ogs, sounded like they gave away too many frees
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 19, 2008, 05:21:53 PM
boring  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 19, 2008, 05:25:58 PM
Quote from: puskas on October 19, 2008, 05:21:19 PM
13-8 to cross, congrats to them, hard luck to ogs, sounded like they gave away too many frees

thought might be the case when i saw rorly robinson appointed to officiate...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on October 19, 2008, 06:34:25 PM
very scrappy game,really and truly what were the county board doin appointing rory rob,the man was not able to keep up with the play..Ogs were very disappointing,they were completely outplayed in the midfield sector, losing mallon and duffy was a blow but some of them jus did not possess the hunger 2day that i would hav expected them to show...congrats to a record breaking crossmaglen..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 19, 2008, 06:37:27 PM
Congratulations to Cross. Depressingly predictable but that's not their fault. Was 2008 the easiest of the 13? Only Harps got within a  score and gave them any real scare.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 19, 2008, 07:40:15 PM
You can never win enough times and as each record falls the will to break more grows stronger and stronger.  This is the mantra that I am sure drives on many of our lads and it is simply awesome what they have done.  At a time whenever football is at its most competitive and time demanding a record like this is laid out.  I do not mean disrespect to Ballina but their 13 in a row ,although impressive, pales into insignificance when compared to what was achieved today.

Once again I had the dulcet tones of Damian McCullough to guide me through the ups and downs of the game and it certainly seemed that Cross always had the winning of the game in their own hands, even though they did not get as many scores on the scoreboard in the first half that they should have.  I never felt like they would lose as Ogs simply did not have the personnel around the park.  Clarke tried his lot but seemed to be starved of possession and support.  Francie even had the audacity to meander to the full forward line once or twice and poor Damian nearly had a canary in the commentary box! 

To all the management  and backroom staff who were involved throughout the run, this is a time for all of them to be proud as at the end of the day without them being the glue keeping it all together this would never have happened

As always the old dogs for the tough road, Oisin, John and JD seemed to stand out Oisin in particular played his usual Final winning performance(Did he get man of the match again?)  They will be almost impossible to replace but there is enough talent there to keep things ticking on for a good few years yet. 

I would like to wish a special congratulations to the twins, oisin, Francie, Paul Hearty and the Red destroyer for being there from start to finish.  It is an amazing accolade and when you consider that all six started in the first one and then in this one it makes it all the more commendable.

As for the people who cannot see it within themselves to congratulate us, take a look at yourselves and you will see in what you say and post on here a better reflection of your position in life than ours.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on October 19, 2008, 07:43:37 PM
congrats to harps today. I see thats 10 minor championships they have won. well donme to all involved

also congrats to Cross in the senior game. JD, McConville & the twins  played well in the 2nd half to pull away from the Ogs in the end
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 19, 2008, 07:46:26 PM

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As for the people who cannot see it within themselves to congratulate us, take a look at yourselves and you will see in what you say and post on here a better reflection of your position in life than ours.
Who are you talking about?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 19, 2008, 08:01:31 PM
Congratulations to Harps on a remarkable minor performance.
We didn't really expect to win but we were unprepared for such an onslaught.
Hope you win the Ulster now.

Well done
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 19, 2008, 08:06:28 PM
Well done to the Harps.  It is not often that Cross are blown out of the water and that is what happened today.  Thankfully from our point of view the main attraction was ours in the end up but this is a fantastic achievement for the Harps.  I hope that the club can now build on this and keep this team together and not let it fall by the wayside the way some of the underage teams in Harps have.


Once again a mighty comhghairdeas and enjoy yourselves,and best of luck in the St Paul's Tournament.  You can never bring enough Ulsters back to Armagh!

Just sticking up what i posted on the Harps thread.

Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 19, 2008, 07:46:26 PM

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As for the people who cannot see it within themselves to congratulate us, take a look at yourselves and you will see in what you say and post on here a better reflection of your position in life than ours.
Who are you talking about?

Whoever feels the need to disregard a fantastic achievement with a snide comment or belittling jab
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 19, 2008, 08:10:06 PM

Congrats to the mighty rangers on a good win today and a fantastic achievement in 13 in a row.

i'm a little bemused why bc would be waiting for rounds of applause from strangers when his club has just secured another chamionship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 19, 2008, 08:15:51 PM
QuoteWhoever feels the need to disregard a fantastic achievement with a snide comment or belittling jab
I don't understand bc, who has done that?  Obviously you feel someone has done that to spark that remark?


Quotei'm a little bemused why bc would be waiting for rounds of applause from strangers when his club has just secured another chamionship?
Same here.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on October 19, 2008, 08:19:21 PM
f**k off pints you are a total asshole! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 19, 2008, 08:20:20 PM
Quote from: Diet Coke on October 19, 2008, 08:19:21 PM
f**k off pints you are a total asshole! ;D
I see
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on October 19, 2008, 08:23:52 PM
Thank God you went to specsavers!! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on October 19, 2008, 08:32:56 PM
Well done Harps and Cross!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bud on October 19, 2008, 08:42:29 PM
Unbelievable achievement from cross, never got to the match.  Would anyone have the cross lineout?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 19, 2008, 09:45:27 PM
Congratulations to Rangers on a brilliant achievement, and it is sure to keep the discussions going on here about who is second best!  :-\

The two players that stood out for me today were John Donaldson and John Mc, both of whom seemed to be everywhere when it counted in the second half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Handy on October 19, 2008, 10:32:19 PM
Time has come for a senior final to have an official from outside Armagh - some of the decisions today defied belief - as for 2 minutes of injury time - wish I had a watch like that, the work day would fly through!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 19, 2008, 10:49:00 PM
Congrats to Cross. You can try and pick holes left, right and centre but it in the end you can't pick any. some achievement - congrats BC, a fine contributor to the board. Ditto Harps, I'd say it has been a long time since Cross were dismantled like that.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Handy on October 19, 2008, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 19, 2008, 10:49:00 PM
Congrats to Cross. You can try and pick holes left, right and centre but it in the end you can't pick any. some achievement - congrats BC, a fine contributor to the board. Ditto Harps, I'd say it has been a long time since Cross were dismantled like that.



I'd just try and pick netural officials!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on October 19, 2008, 11:51:44 PM
Congrats to Cross.  I thought it was a very good game for 40 mins but in the end a combination of poor play by the ogs and a strong second half from Cross ended the match as a contest.  Just a word on the referee I thought he bottled the biggest decision of the match inside the first two minutes when the Og's were breaking, Oisin appeared to strike out at his man right infront of me who went down clutching his head.  The ref waved play on and came back at the end of the play and booked Oisin, very poor refering.  Had Robinson made the right call there it may have been a different game.  He didnt though and his officiating didnt really improve from there for either team.

As far as the achievement goes its quite something, for me this last few years Cross have looked liked a decent county team let alone a club side and fair play to them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stephenite on October 20, 2008, 12:51:22 AM
Congrats to Cross and welcome to the very, very elite club of 13 in a row...... now will someone please beat them next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 20, 2008, 09:32:19 AM
Quote from: Handy on October 19, 2008, 10:32:19 PM
Time has come for a senior final to have an official from outside Armagh - some of the decisions today defied belief - as for 2 minutes of injury time - wish I had a watch like that, the work day would fly through!!!!!

:D :D :D :D :D

Congratulations to Cross (fecking machines them men) and congrats to Harps minors...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on October 20, 2008, 10:07:15 AM
Congrats to Cross, fully deserved winners yesterday, in what was a very poor game of football, refereed very poorly as well. The Ogs though only a point down at half time, never convinved me they could win, there was'nt any big characters on the filed to grab the game by the scruff of the neck. On the other side Cross stepped it up when the going got tough against the wind. I thought the Mc Entee's & John Donaldson were outstanding. Francie i fear has seen better days, his game is reduced to pulling & dragging, clarke was winning everything, the yellow francie got mean't he had to go off ronan, but it did'nt matter as Ogs never got any quality ball in & did'nt have the forwards to cause cross problems. Both Goal Keepers were shakey today, Mc Kinney in particular was almost caught out the field on 2 occasions. Once Clarke had to come out to mid field the game was over.

Overall i thought the basic skills were lacking today, how many players kicked straight into the oppositions hands was unbelievable. From a neutrals point of view (in the senior game  ;D) officiating needs to be sorted out in Armagh. Thon wee fella the lines man (Who did'nt see francies indescretions in the semi) was seen shaking hands & arms round the back with Murtagh before the game. Very pally! 20 mins later he did'nt see Oisins blatant strike in the tackle from 5 yards. The referee was very whislte happy, however there was a lot of fouling and cycnical play. Indeed there is a hug amount of gamesmanship coming into the game nowadays. Some call it experience, but as a spectacle it really spoils the flow of the game, I counted at least 8 occasions in the second half when Ogs were finally starting to get some fluidity in their play, a cross player being fouled & then going down for 2-3 mins treatment.

I don't know what cross will do when oisin packs it in, because some of the scores he took form frees today were outstanding. I don't think this cross side is as strong as in previous years & would fancy St Galls but sure how many times have i said that.

The Harps minor team were brilliant today, totally annilihated cross, theres hope for the future  ;D

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on October 20, 2008, 10:27:26 AM
Thought at half time that we were going to see an exciting second half but Cross turned it into a war of attrition in the second half that they were always going to win. Although the yellow was a factor in Francie being taken off Clarke I also think that Cross decided that the best way to nullify Clarke was to stop the ball coming into him and loaded midfield with the big hitters and snuffed out whatever ball the Ogs got in midfield.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 20, 2008, 10:27:49 AM
Congrats to Cross and I'm sure they'll be back to surpass the joint record next year.  I actually thought the game was up for Cross at HT, only leading by a point with a huge wind, but they stepped it up again.  Thought JP Donnelly was outstanding for the OGs, what were they doing taking sean moore off? 0-2 from play and doing well, moved him to FF were the ball never came and then off to be replaced by a sub who never touched leather.  Their weakness in Mf came home to roost in the second half. I must be the only one at the match who thought Rory Robinson had a good game.

Some performance by the minors, I suppose we were confident of victory but not too many saw that one coming.  Great to think that 13 of that team are eligible again next year!  Congrats to the management team, they delivered a year earlier than most people expected.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 20, 2008, 10:29:42 AM
Yesterday's programme said that the game yesterday was John Mac's 33rd championship final - that is some going.  BC (or anyone else) can you name them?

If only Cross had the Harps midifeld diamond.............
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on October 20, 2008, 10:49:44 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 20, 2008, 10:27:49 AM
Congrats to Cross and I'm sure they'll be back to surpass the joint record next year.  I actually thought the game was up for Cross at HT, only leading by a point with a huge wind, but they stepped it up again.  Thought JP Donnelly was outstanding for the OGs, what were they doing taking sean moore off? 0-2 from play and doing well, moved him to FF were the ball never came and then off to be replaced by a sub who never touched leather.  Their weakness in Mf came home to roost in the second half. I must be the only one at the match who thought Rory Robinson had a good game.

Some performance by the minors, I suppose we were confident of victory but not too many saw that one coming.  Great to think that 13 of that team are eligible again next year!  Congrats to the management team, they delivered a year earlier than most people expected.

I also thougth he had a good enough game Benny.

Paul Duffy was down for 3Min's & he played 2Min's injury time at the end of the first half.  Then Clarke no.11 going down near the end of the half to try and kill more time cause the Ogs were just 1 behind at that stage. There was a few other incidents which cross supporters could be aggrieved by some of his decisions.  Ogs No.2 kneeing Bellew in the face, if it had been the other way round there'd have been uproar or when McKenna was nearly raped at the end & didn't get a free.
regarding Bellews yellow card it was 50/50 between him and clarke, I seen the umpire warning Clarke at least once for pulling, but nothing more happened about it unfortnately Franice always gets the wrong end of the stick.
If posters are going to comment on only one side, I think it protrays a very uneven view, at least been consistant and honest with what one writes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 20, 2008, 10:54:30 AM
I thought RR was trying to even it up at the end especially when as stated Titch McKenna was nearly raped by at least 3 or 4 Ogs men and got nothing for it. Some of the passing was a bit wayward at times and it wasn't really a great game at all.
One good thing to come from it though is I think a lot of teams will have some hope for next year. Even though its another title for Cross, they dont look invincible anymore and the fear factor has gone I think... When the twins, JD and Oisin go it'll be a whole new ball game!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 20, 2008, 11:02:39 AM
Benny i would actually agree with you on Robinson who i thought did fairly well. A few posters are complaining about how Oisin should have walked, I personally didn't see the incident but i did see the Number 30 for the og's strike a dig to the stomach of Mc Conville i think it was. One of the two that were umpiring the bottom end put his hand up and the other guy seen he was doing it and then put his hand up. The ref went over to both of them and after a discussion he produced a yellow card. Oh and by the way the number 30 was also trying to dig at the physio when he came on to treat the player he struck. Now if the umpires told the ref that this lad lifted his hand it should have been a straight red card. So both them decisions would have evened each other out. Granted that young lad wouldn't have had the same impact as mc Conville. But i have been highlighting these inconsistencies on this board for some time and some folk accused me of being bias. I guess it changes when it is your own team on the other end of it. I thought the umpires could have been doing a hell of a lot more yesterday. They are in a better position to see incidents occuring in the full back line ie Francie constantly pulling at Ronan Clarke. They should have been putting the hand up everytime it happened and they never once it was only when the ref saw it that Francie was booked.

As for the actual game i thought it was a typical Cross performance where they just done enough in the first 45 minutes and then stepped it for 10 and the game was over. Donaldson even had time for a fist salute to the crowd with about 5 minutes to go. Cross looked the more direct team. The ogs tended to try and play almost too much football which allowed the Cross to get in and spoil them. This is meat and drink to the Cross. The Og's should have been getting the early ball in particulary in the second half with the wind at their backs. They failed to do this and this is where the game was lost. They could have played till today and they would have won it . All in all though it has to be said it was a galiant effort by some of the lads on the Og's side. Well done to the Cross and harps minors great achievement for both.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: snappiered on October 20, 2008, 11:26:10 AM
How come Andy Mallon wasnt able to play? Sorry if it has been mentioned here b4?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 20, 2008, 11:35:32 AM
Typical Cross. Always seem to be able to pull something out of the bag when the going gets tough. Even when Cross have a bad day, teams dont seem to be able to put them away (Harps).
JD, the twins & Oisin were very good, as they always seem to be in the big games
Fair play to them & they will be a tough nut to crack in Ulster, as per usual

Cullyhanna destroyed Culloville on Saturday. The tactics of Culloville were very poor. They packed their defence in the 1st half & when they did win the ball they just kicked it up front to their only 2 players in the Cullyhanna half. St Pats have some quality players & should give a good representation of themselves in Ulster.
As for Culloville, thats 2 in a row now & they will find it very hard to come back from it

Harps have some hope for the future with their minor performance, but the big job now will be to keep this group of players together & not let them go the way of city minor teams of the past
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on October 20, 2008, 11:44:33 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 20, 2008, 10:27:49 AM
Congrats to Cross and I'm sure they'll be back to surpass the joint record next year.  I actually thought the game was up for Cross at HT, only leading by a point with a huge wind, but they stepped it up again.  Thought JP Donnelly was outstanding for the OGs, what were they doing taking sean moore off? 0-2 from play and doing well, moved him to FF were the ball never came and then off to be replaced by a sub who never touched leather.  Their weakness in Mf came home to roost in the second half. I must be the only one at the match who thought Rory Robinson had a good game.

Some performance by the minors, I suppose we were confident of victory but not too many saw that one coming.  Great to think that 13 of that team are eligible again next year!  Congrats to the management team, they delivered a year earlier than most people expected.

He did well when he was on the ball but I thought he gave John Mac way too much room and John Mac beat him to every break ball.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Handy on October 20, 2008, 11:46:32 AM
Quote from: goh4205 on October 20, 2008, 10:49:44 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 20, 2008, 10:27:49 AM
Congrats to Cross and I'm sure they'll be back to surpass the joint record next year.  I actually thought the game was up for Cross at HT, only leading by a point with a huge wind, but they stepped it up again.  Thought JP Donnelly was outstanding for the OGs, what were they doing taking sean moore off? 0-2 from play and doing well, moved him to FF were the ball never came and then off to be replaced by a sub who never touched leather.  Their weakness in Mf came home to roost in the second half. I must be the only one at the match who thought Rory Robinson had a good game.

Some performance by the minors, I suppose we were confident of victory but not too many saw that one coming.  Great to think that 13 of that team are eligible again next year!  Congrats to the management team, they delivered a year earlier than most people expected.

I also thougth he had a good enough game Benny.

Paul Duffy was down for 3Min's & he played 2Min's injury time at the end of the first half.  Then Clarke no.11 going down near the end of the half to try and kill more time cause the Ogs were just 1 behind at that stage. There was a few other incidents which cross supporters could be aggrieved by some of his decisions.  Ogs No.2 kneeing Bellew in the face, if it had been the other way round there'd have been uproar or when McKenna was nearly raped at the end & didn't get a free.
regarding Bellews yellow card it was 50/50 between him and clarke, I seen the umpire warning Clarke at least once for pulling, but nothing more happened about it unfortnately Franice always gets the wrong end of the stick.
If posters are going to comment on only one side, I think it protrays a very uneven view, at least been consistant and honest with what one writes.

Try telling Kelly of the harps about poor Francie.  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 20, 2008, 11:49:37 AM
Quote from: snappiered on October 20, 2008, 11:26:10 AM
How come Andy Mallon wasnt able to play? Sorry if it has been mentioned here b4?

Heard he got injured last week but it was kept very quiet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on October 20, 2008, 11:54:33 AM
Andy Mallon broke his wrist in training during the week
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on October 20, 2008, 12:13:47 PM
'Thought JP Donnelly was outstanding for the OGs'

This just shows you how people see very different things at a football match. I thought he was pretty poor - his man got 'motm', scored at least 2 from play which could have been 4 and was a large part of why cross won...Also his distribution on the ball was not good. He was certainly not outstanding - Greg Loughran played well for Ogs along with M Toner in defense. McKinney's kick outs were poor.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 20, 2008, 12:50:25 PM
I'm certainly not here to defend JP, but he never misplaced a pass the whole game, thought he was particularly good in the first half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 20, 2008, 12:52:18 PM
Jp was good on the ball but his main job is a defender which I dont think he did well at all!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 20, 2008, 01:00:37 PM
Will be very interesting to monitor this Harps team. Alot of yous Harps' men have highlighted the problems of successful minor teams in the past, I am sure yous will be keeping an eye on this team, hopefully it is a different outcome.

Yous would surely be able to give Ulster a rattle, seem quite a small team physically from the one team photo I did see? Fair assumption or deceptive camera?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 20, 2008, 01:03:30 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 20, 2008, 01:00:37 PM
Will be very interesting to monitor this Harps team. Alot of yous Harps' men have highlighted the problems of successful minor teams in the past, I am sure yous will be keeping an eye on this team, hopefully it is a different outcome.

Yous would surely be able to give Ulster a rattle, seem quite a small team physically from the one team photo I did see? Fair assumption or deceptive camera?

Could be something in that Corn, I remember saying during the semi final that our lads seemed the bigger side, which I felt would auger well given the conditions. COngrats to Harps yesterday but their ease for victory only heightens the regreat that we missed out on a double this weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 20, 2008, 01:06:10 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 20, 2008, 01:03:30 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 20, 2008, 01:00:37 PM
Will be very interesting to monitor this Harps team. Alot of yous Harps' men have highlighted the problems of successful minor teams in the past, I am sure yous will be keeping an eye on this team, hopefully it is a different outcome.

Yous would surely be able to give Ulster a rattle, seem quite a small team physically from the one team photo I did see? Fair assumption or deceptive camera?

Could be something in that Corn, I remember saying during the semi final that our lads seemed the bigger side, which I felt would auger well given the conditions. COngrats to Harps yesterday but their ease for victory only heightens the regreat that we missed out on a double this weekend.

Good result in Tyrone for you yesterday TAC? I have seen Annaclone a few times this year, decent side too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 20, 2008, 01:33:27 PM
How did your charity game go Corn, Who won? many turn up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 20, 2008, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 20, 2008, 01:06:10 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 20, 2008, 01:03:30 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 20, 2008, 01:00:37 PM
Will be very interesting to monitor this Harps team. Alot of yous Harps' men have highlighted the problems of successful minor teams in the past, I am sure yous will be keeping an eye on this team, hopefully it is a different outcome.

Yous would surely be able to give Ulster a rattle, seem quite a small team physically from the one team photo I did see? Fair assumption or deceptive camera?

Could be something in that Corn, I remember saying during the semi final that our lads seemed the bigger side, which I felt would auger well given the conditions. COngrats to Harps yesterday but their ease for victory only heightens the regreat that we missed out on a double this weekend.

Good result in Tyrone for you yesterday TAC? I have seen Annaclone a few times this year, decent side too.

Well we wouldn't want to be getting too far of ourselves since we wouldn't meet a Tyrone team until a possible final and we'll have 2 very difficult games before that. But yeah Moy going out opens up the Intermediate a bit. I think we can give it a right rattle as I'd assume we're the only division 1 team in the competition and we've beaten every top team in Armagh this year, bar Clans and Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 20, 2008, 01:54:14 PM
A I've mentioned a few times this year we thought next year was more realistic for our minors as we've 13 of the starting team again next year, so we will be probably be one of the 'younger' minor teams in the Ulster Club this year.  Hard to know with minors but we'll give it a good go.

Minor manager was telling me last night that Harps & Ogs did end up using the same changing room and when we were leaving the Ogs boys gave our minors a standing round of applause, which was appreciated.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 20, 2008, 02:04:34 PM
That was a nice touch benny.

Candyman i think you are spot on there lad with JP Donnelly. He was decent going forward but neglected his defensive duties. There are very few players that can do both to the highest level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on October 20, 2008, 02:16:42 PM
He shoudl never have left the Harps  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on October 20, 2008, 02:20:00 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 20, 2008, 11:02:39 AM
Benny i would actually agree with you on Robinson who i thought did fairly well. A few posters are complaining about how Oisin should have walked, I personally didn't see the incident but i did see the Number 30 for the og's strike a dig to the stomach of Mc Conville i think it was. One of the two that were umpiring the bottom end put his hand up and the other guy seen he was doing it and then put his hand up. The ref went over to both of them and after a discussion he produced a yellow card. Oh and by the way the number 30 was also trying to dig at the physio when he came on to treat the player he struck. Now if the umpires told the ref that this lad lifted his hand it should have been a straight red card. So both them decisions would have evened each other out. Granted that young lad wouldn't have had the same impact as mc Conville. But i have been highlighting these inconsistencies on this board for some time and some folk accused me of being bias. I guess it changes when it is your own team on the other end of it. I thought the umpires could have been doing a hell of a lot more yesterday. They are in a better position to see incidents occuring in the full back line ie Francie constantly pulling at Ronan Clarke. They should have been putting the hand up everytime it happened and they never once it was only when the ref saw it that Francie was booked.

As for the actual game i thought it was a typical Cross performance where they just done enough in the first 45 minutes and then stepped it for 10 and the game was over. Donaldson even had time for a fist salute to the crowd with about 5 minutes to go. Cross looked the more direct team. The ogs tended to try and play almost too much football which allowed the Cross to get in and spoil them. This is meat and drink to the Cross. The Og's should have been getting the early ball in particulary in the second half with the wind at their backs. They failed to do this and this is where the game was lost. They could have played till today and they would have won it . All in all though it has to be said it was a galiant effort by some of the lads on the Og's side. Well done to the Cross and harps minors great achievement for both.

I was at the game as a Neutral and It was Tony Kernan he hit and it was a sly dig that Kernan didnt even see coming. It should def have been a straight red.

I Thought the first half was decent in terms of excitement although poor in overall quality.  Some of the passing from both teams was bordering ridiculous and only for Ronan Clarke, JP Donnelly, S Moore and G Loughran who all had good first halfs, the Ogs would have been alot further behind.  (Although JP had a good first half when on the ball he did give JME alot of space at times.
For Cross JME, C Short, and A Kernan had very good first halfs and T Kernan and J Donaldson were also good. Mc Conville was good from frees (the one from 55 Yards with outside of the boot was class) but never featured from play at all.

At half time I thought this could be very tight as Ogs are only a point behind and have a very strong wind behind them.

However Cross totally took over in the second half and totally dominated the middle third winning kick-out after kick-out and break after break.  the twins, J Donaldson, and Francie totally dominated the middle third and when it came to the crunch the Ogs didnt have the stomach or the class for it.  Stupid passes and indirect running were all they had to offer and watching men walk after their opponents highlighed why Cross and not Ogs were going to win. More class, better attitude and stomach for the fight.  

Why the Ogs took of S Moore I dont know as he was having a decent game and had scored 2 good points.  Ross Clarke should have gone as he spent the whole game hiding in the corner waiting on someone to hand him a ball.  I know he is young but when your on a senior team in a championship final a bit of fight and hunger are expected.

Also thought the ref was ok yesterday overall. he missed a couple of things that the linesmen and umpires should have pointed out to him so they werent really his fault, but most of his calls were spot on and he was definately fair.  A few frees were maybe a bit soft for both teams but the majority were stonewall and it has to be pointed out that the amount of pulling and hauling in the game was deadly but both teams were as bad as each other.  The Ogs fans beside us gave the ref awful abuse and were complaining about frees that stevie wonder would see.  Thing it was just a bit of scapegoating when the frustrations got the better of them.

Also seen minor game and was very impressed with Harps and thought their No. 11 had a great game.  Cross keeper let in 2 bad goals and his kick outs before half time led to a couple of points.  But this just added to the gap between the teams and Harps are by far the best Minor team I have seen in Armagh this year on yesterdays performance. They have improved alot every time I have seen them this year and I must admit I didnt think they would beat Cullyhanna in semi but when they did I knew they would be hard to stop in final. Congratulations all involved.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on October 20, 2008, 02:30:06 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on October 20, 2008, 02:20:00 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 20, 2008, 11:02:39 AM
Benny i would actually agree with you on Robinson who i thought did fairly well. A few posters are complaining about how Oisin should have walked, I personally didn't see the incident but i did see the Number 30 for the og's strike a dig to the stomach of Mc Conville i think it was. One of the two that were umpiring the bottom end put his hand up and the other guy seen he was doing it and then put his hand up. The ref went over to both of them and after a discussion he produced a yellow card. Oh and by the way the number 30 was also trying to dig at the physio when he came on to treat the player he struck. Now if the umpires told the ref that this lad lifted his hand it should have been a straight red card. So both them decisions would have evened each other out. Granted that young lad wouldn't have had the same impact as mc Conville. But i have been highlighting these inconsistencies on this board for some time and some folk accused me of being bias. I guess it changes when it is your own team on the other end of it. I thought the umpires could have been doing a hell of a lot more yesterday. They are in a better position to see incidents occuring in the full back line ie Francie constantly pulling at Ronan Clarke. They should have been putting the hand up everytime it happened and they never once it was only when the ref saw it that Francie was booked.

As for the actual game i thought it was a typical Cross performance where they just done enough in the first 45 minutes and then stepped it for 10 and the game was over. Donaldson even had time for a fist salute to the crowd with about 5 minutes to go. Cross looked the more direct team. The ogs tended to try and play almost too much football which allowed the Cross to get in and spoil them. This is meat and drink to the Cross. The Og's should have been getting the early ball in particulary in the second half with the wind at their backs. They failed to do this and this is where the game was lost. They could have played till today and they would have won it . All in all though it has to be said it was a galiant effort by some of the lads on the Og's side. Well done to the Cross and harps minors great achievement for both.

I was at the game as a Neutral and It was Tony Kernan he hit and it was a sly dig that Kernan didnt even see coming. It should def have been a straight red.

I Thought the first half was decent in terms of excitement although poor in overall quality.  Some of the passing from both teams was bordering ridiculous and only for Ronan Clarke, JP Donnelly, S Moore and G Loughran who all had good first halfs, the Ogs would have been alot further behind.  (Although JP had a good first half when on the ball he did give JME alot of space at times.
For Cross JME, C Short, and A Kernan had very good first halfs and T Kernan and J Donaldson were also good. Mc Conville was good from frees (the one from 55 Yards with outside of the boot was class) but never featured from play at all.

At half time I thought this could be very tight as Ogs are only a point behind and have a very strong wind behind them.

However Cross totally took over in the second half and totally dominated the middle third winning kick-out after kick-out and break after break.  the twins, J Donaldson, and Francie totally dominated the middle third and when it came to the crunch the Ogs didnt have the stomach or the class for it.  Stupid passes and indirect running were all they had to offer and watching men walk after their opponents highlighed why Cross and not Ogs were going to win. More class, better attitude and stomach for the fight.  

Why the Ogs took of S Moore I dont know as he was having a decent game and had scored 2 good points.  Ross Clarke should have gone as he spent the whole game hiding in the corner waiting on someone to hand him a ball.  I know he is young but when your on a senior team in a championship final a bit of fight and hunger are expected.

Also thought the ref was ok yesterday overall. he missed a couple of things that the linesmen and umpires should have pointed out to him so they werent really his fault, but most of his calls were spot on and he was definately fair.  A few frees were maybe a bit soft for both teams but the majority were stonewall and it has to be pointed out that the amount of pulling and hauling in the game was deadly but both teams were as bad as each other.  The Ogs fans beside us gave the ref awful abuse and were complaining about frees that stevie wonder would see.  Thing it was just a bit of scapegoating when the frustrations got the better of them.

Also seen minor game and was very impressed with Harps and thought their No. 11 had a great game.  Cross keeper let in 2 bad goals and his kick outs before half time led to a couple of points.  But this just added to the gap between the teams and Harps are by far the best Minor team I have seen in Armagh this year on yesterdays performance. They have improved alot every time I have seen them this year and I must admit I didnt think they would beat Cullyhanna in semi but when they did I knew they would be hard to stop in final. Congratulations all involved.

Good post Billy, very fair assumption
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 20, 2008, 03:31:11 PM
well put. 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 20, 2008, 03:46:42 PM
What club are you from billy?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on October 20, 2008, 04:10:21 PM
Im a Derry man. But I work in Armagh and do alot of coaching down here thats why I be at alot of Armagh league and championship games. Always an experience being there as a neutral any hearing the views from the stand from opposing fans and wondering if they are watching the same game as Im watching. When your a neural you see very few "definite red cards" or "joke of a f**king ref" and you realise the majority of GAA fans turn into some sort of mentalist for the duration of their teams game.

Cross were the better team yesterday but in truth I dont rate that Ogs team that highly overall and they had a relatively easy run to the final. Thought they were found out yesterday when it really mattered. Still think cross have another gear.

As I mentioned earlier the harps minors really impressed me yesterday and their fitness levels were very high.  Had only seen Cross minors once this year and thought they were a strong outfit although very young so I dont think Armagh Harps beat a poor team yesterday, they just played very well from start to finish. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 20, 2008, 04:26:02 PM
You make it to Dromintee Billy?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on October 20, 2008, 04:38:56 PM
Didnt get corn got held up at training session and by the time I got showered and changed it was near seven wouldve been bout 7:20 before I could be there so didnt bother. Pity was looking forward to seeing the game and it was def a very good cause. How did it go? much of a turnout?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 20, 2008, 06:02:28 PM
Onionbag/Billy

Went very well. Crowd is hard to judge. did not look overly full but I would say around 1500, which is good.  Very generous donations. The match finished 15-15 and was quite competitive. MOR got a couple, Kevin O Rourke got a few and Forker pointed one or two, only got to see half so couldn't tell you the rest. Ross Carr won the free-kick contest.

Auction very well supported. Maradonna and Pele jersies fethched just under 8k. Word of thanks for all the support.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 20, 2008, 08:04:52 PM
cullyhanna play greenlough from Derry now in the intermid c ship does anyone know much about this team?I Hope ciaran mc keever comes home injury free from Australia so he can play against greenlough he would be a big loss if he got injuryed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 20, 2008, 08:52:29 PM
Quote from: back off the net on October 20, 2008, 08:04:52 PM
I Hope ciaran mc keever comes home injury free from Australia so he can play against greenlough he would be a big loss if he got injuryed

(Time until Pints replies to that sentence...............)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 20, 2008, 09:03:40 PM
I see fromt he back of today's Irish news that Aaron Kernan's under the impression that the Ulster Council are going to postpone Cross' match with Donagh until he comes back from Australia. If that's the case, I assume our match against Greenlough would also be put back a week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on October 20, 2008, 09:54:26 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on October 20, 2008, 02:20:00 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 20, 2008, 11:02:39 AM
Benny i would actually agree with you on Robinson who i thought did fairly well. A few posters are complaining about how Oisin should have walked, I personally didn't see the incident but i did see the Number 30 for the og's strike a dig to the stomach of Mc Conville i think it was. One of the two that were umpiring the bottom end put his hand up and the other guy seen he was doing it and then put his hand up. The ref went over to both of them and after a discussion he produced a yellow card. Oh and by the way the number 30 was also trying to dig at the physio when he came on to treat the player he struck. Now if the umpires told the ref that this lad lifted his hand it should have been a straight red card. So both them decisions would have evened each other out. Granted that young lad wouldn't have had the same impact as mc Conville. But i have been highlighting these inconsistencies on this board for some time and some folk accused me of being bias. I guess it changes when it is your own team on the other end of it. I thought the umpires could have been doing a hell of a lot more yesterday. They are in a better position to see incidents occuring in the full back line ie Francie constantly pulling at Ronan Clarke. They should have been putting the hand up everytime it happened and they never once it was only when the ref saw it that Francie was booked.

As for the actual game i thought it was a typical Cross performance where they just done enough in the first 45 minutes and then stepped it for 10 and the game was over. Donaldson even had time for a fist salute to the crowd with about 5 minutes to go. Cross looked the more direct team. The ogs tended to try and play almost too much football which allowed the Cross to get in and spoil them. This is meat and drink to the Cross. The Og's should have been getting the early ball in particulary in the second half with the wind at their backs. They failed to do this and this is where the game was lost. They could have played till today and they would have won it . All in all though it has to be said it was a galiant effort by some of the lads on the Og's side. Well done to the Cross and harps minors great achievement for both.

I was at the game as a Neutral and It was Tony Kernan he hit and it was a sly dig that Kernan didnt even see coming. It should def have been a straight red.



100% agree but as Robinson had already let it be known that he was only going to book for striking, he had no option but to book number 30.  I dont agree the two decision evened themselves out as for me Oisin had a big impact on the game and Anto (cant remember surname) had nowhere near this.  Moreover and this is only speculation I dont think the second strike would have come had the first decision been made correctly.  As I have said before on here it is very very poor refereeing as far as im concerned to book for striking,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 20, 2008, 10:01:01 PM
QuoteAs I have said before on here it is very very poor refereeing as far as im concerned to book for striking,

There was a yellow card for a punch by Johnny McGeeney on Saturday as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on October 20, 2008, 10:10:59 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 20, 2008, 10:01:01 PM
QuoteAs I have said before on here it is very very poor refereeing as far as im concerned to book for striking,

There was a yellow card for a punch by Johnny McGeeney on Saturday as well.

Becoming more and more common these days TAC unfortunately
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on October 20, 2008, 10:25:27 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 20, 2008, 10:01:01 PM
QuoteAs I have said before on here it is very very poor refereeing as far as im concerned to book for striking,

There was a yellow card for a punch by Johnny McGeeney on Saturday as well.

I was standing right beside that incident on the stand side & he slapped him, which tactally is a strike, but this was after no.10 for St Pat's slapped him and he fell to the ground as if he was shot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 20, 2008, 11:14:55 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on October 20, 2008, 10:25:27 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 20, 2008, 10:01:01 PM
QuoteAs I have said before on here it is very very poor refereeing as far as im concerned to book for striking,

There was a yellow card for a punch by Johnny McGeeney on Saturday as well.

I was standing right beside that incident on the stand side & he slapped him, which tactally is a strike, but this was after no.10 for St Pat's slapped him and he fell to the ground as if he was shot.

Looked like a punch to me Goh and I wasn't too far away from it myself.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 21, 2008, 09:31:22 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 20, 2008, 01:03:30 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 20, 2008, 01:00:37 PM
Will be very interesting to monitor this Harps team. Alot of yous Harps' men have highlighted the problems of successful minor teams in the past, I am sure yous will be keeping an eye on this team, hopefully it is a different outcome.

Yous would surely be able to give Ulster a rattle, seem quite a small team physically from the one team photo I did see? Fair assumption or deceptive camera?

Could be something in that Corn, I remember saying during the semi final that our lads seemed the bigger side, which I felt would auger well given the conditions. COngrats to Harps yesterday but their ease for victory only heightens the regreat that we missed out on a double this weekend.
In reality there was probably very little between Harps, Granemore, Cullyhanna and perhaps Ballymacnab, who all ended up in one half of a very lopsided draw - which ultimately did Cross no favours at all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 21, 2008, 11:01:50 AM
A strike is a strike lads. The force with which it is delivered doesn't matter. The rules are clear and simple, you lift your hand and you walk. Robinson got this wrong on teo occassion and this was a mistake on his behalf and you could say then it is bad refereing. But i will agree that certain teams tend to get away with this more than others.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on October 21, 2008, 12:51:15 PM
Quote from: back off the net on October 20, 2008, 08:04:52 PM
cullyhanna play greenlough from Derry now in the intermid c ship does anyone know much about this team?I Hope ciaran mc keever comes home injury free from Australia so he can play against greenlough he would be a big loss if he got injuryed

Greenlough are a mid table Div 3 side in Derry football.  Would be a long way of the top 2 divisions in Derry at the moment and it would be hard to say where they would come in Armagh football leagues as Derry leagues are much stronger (no offence)  Going by last year where Wolf tones or Whitecross (cant remember which) were Armagh Intermediate champions and were Div 1 Armagh, although relegated and they were hammered by Newbridge from Derry who were Bottom of Div 3 at the time, although they avoided relegation on last day of the season, Greenlough would prob be top 3/4 of Div 2 in Armagh but that is just an estimate. Greenlough would prob be slightly weaker than newbridge were and Im aware Cullyhanna are a good bit stronger than Wolf tones or Whitecross. 

Greenlough are a young side with a few handy players as far as I know the only County man is a Derry U21.  Having watched both teams this year I would have to say Cullyhanna are favourites and as they have the home draw Greenlough would appear to have alot to do to progress but sure you never know. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sammymaguire on October 21, 2008, 01:21:42 PM

congrats to the 'Gers for doing the business once again  :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 21, 2008, 01:23:30 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on July 29, 2008, 02:58:53 PM
 Anyhow if I was you i would worry about crosses position alot of men getting on in years ie JD, The mac Twins, Mcconville and feck all coming through- glass houses lad- I will tell you one thing Cross will not win nr 13 this year someone will beat youse and I hope to see it



You know your stuff ""son" ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 21, 2008, 01:53:07 PM
classic. You held that dear to your heart crossfire. You had to trail back a few pages to find that one  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: under the bar on October 21, 2008, 02:34:41 PM
Maybe Armagh should abandon the senior championship and let cross have a bye so they can get a clean run at Ulster?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 21, 2008, 03:29:46 PM
sure they will still have a clear run at the Ulster ??? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on October 21, 2008, 06:44:55 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on October 21, 2008, 12:51:15 PM
Quote from: back off the net on October 20, 2008, 08:04:52 PM
cullyhanna play greenlough from Derry now in the intermid c ship does anyone know much about this team?I Hope ciaran mc keever comes home injury free from Australia so he can play against greenlough he would be a big loss if he got injuryed

Greenlough are a mid table Div 3 side in Derry football.  Would be a long way of the top 2 divisions in Derry at the moment and it would be hard to say where they would come in Armagh football leagues as Derry leagues are much stronger (no offence)  Going by last year where Wolf tones or Whitecross (cant remember which) were Armagh Intermediate champions and were Div 1 Armagh, although relegated and they were hammered by Newbridge from Derry who were Bottom of Div 3 at the time, although they avoided relegation on last day of the season, Greenlough would prob be top 3/4 of Div 2 in Armagh but that is just an estimate. Greenlough would prob be slightly weaker than newbridge were and Im aware Cullyhanna are a good bit stronger than Wolf tones or Whitecross. 

Greenlough are a young side with a few handy players as far as I know the only County man is a Derry U21.  Having watched both teams this year I would have to say Cullyhanna are favourites and as they have the home draw Greenlough would appear to have alot to do to progress but sure you never know. 

Having seen a few games in these competitions at Int & Junior level in recent years. My impression is that for some clubs winning their county championship is realistically where their ambition ends. Its not intentional and many would not admit it or even realise that it is the case, but the same hunger, and desire just isnt there once the celebrating and boozing, sometimes a week long is out of the road.
As a result they are wide open!!

St Pats i have seen a bit of in recent years and they seem to have improved in terms of consistency, commitment and discipline which had been their downfall on many occasion.  Last year, defeat at the semi final stage to Whitecross seem to hurt them as they no doubt felt that it was there for the taking. That seemed to drive them on this year. With the exception of 1 or 2 the same players. same team, but it will depend on whether they fancy running around in the mud and puddles over the next couple of months.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 21, 2008, 10:06:27 PM
Whats te financial reward for winning Intermediate or Junior at Ulster level?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on October 22, 2008, 12:01:58 AM
Crossfire or BC or anyone else do you have the lineup for the Cross team that won on Sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on October 22, 2008, 01:28:42 AM
Thank You drici
Title: Re: 19-10-2008
Post by: Candyman on October 22, 2008, 09:15:45 AM
Quote from: drici on October 22, 2008, 12:28:50 AM
Paul Hearty

Martin Aherne - Played forwards all his life but played very well here on sunday
Francie Bellew
Paul McKeown

Aaron Kernan (0-5)
John Donaldson
Paul Kernan

Tony McEntee
David McKenna

Micheal McNamee - Was playing sweeper at one stage and did well also
John McEntee( 0-2)
Jamie Clarke

Tony Kernan
Cathal Short
Oisin McConville (0-6)

Substitutes:
John Murtagh for Jamie Clarke
Kyle Carragher for Cathal Short
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 22, 2008, 09:28:56 AM
Motions for the Armagh Co Convention (15th December) have to be with the Co Board by 14th November.  Seems like they dont want any motions as there'll be hardly any AGM's convened before the 14th November.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: diesel-smuggler on October 22, 2008, 09:30:29 AM
benny the clubs committees can forward any motions to the county board as they dont have to be ratified at the agm's as is every year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on October 22, 2008, 10:19:12 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 20, 2008, 11:14:55 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on October 20, 2008, 10:25:27 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 20, 2008, 10:01:01 PM
QuoteAs I have said before on here it is very very poor refereeing as far as im concerned to book for striking,

There was a yellow card for a punch by Johnny McGeeney on Saturday as well.

I was standing right beside that incident on the stand side & he slapped him, which tactally is a strike, but this was after no.10 for St Pat's slapped him and he fell to the ground as if he was shot.
Looked like a punch to me Goh and I wasn't too far away from it myself.

Johnny can be a bit of an eegit, but that number 10 nearly should have been punished for simulation. Did anyone else cop McKeever going over and telling him to stay down?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on October 22, 2008, 10:35:25 AM

was McEntee the only scorer from play?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 22, 2008, 11:19:47 AM
For Cross, yes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on October 22, 2008, 11:49:54 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 22, 2008, 09:28:56 AM
Motions for the Armagh Co Convention (15th December) have to be with the Co Board by 14th November.  Seems like they dont want any motions as there'll be hardly any AGM's convened before the 14th November.

Anything interesting or useful likely to come up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 22, 2008, 11:52:46 AM
No idea. few on here were discussing aligning rejigged leagues with champs like Tyrone - D1/Senior, D2/Int and D3/Junior.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on October 22, 2008, 11:59:55 AM

playoffs for relegation may be a partial solution for teams being punished for providing the county with players?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 22, 2008, 12:42:36 PM
Aye should be something, dont want to whinge about it, but I dont think we would have went down if we had've had our county men available (like the Ogs & Clans in the not too distant past). 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 22, 2008, 01:40:41 PM
There has to be a happy-medium, has anyone seen the system in place in Down, a fooking disaster - but in principal a good idea. Basically if you have not got a third of the points of the team that wins the league, you go into a relegation play-off. Means teams can no longer win no matches ina season and survive through the play-offs, but causes more hassles than it's worth.

What I would like to see is bottom team goes straight down, and then two teams above them play-off and the loser also goes down. Not much difference, but might make some games more interesting. Also, not many clubs are not affected by losing county men. I think only Mulaghbawn have no county men in division one?

The Div/1 senior, Div2/int will be flawed unless county players get more league games. For example Harps/Clans/Ogs have went down, while Dromintee have flirted with relegation in four years. Four senior championship teams, who, if the system was upgraded, would be forced to play intermediate.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 22, 2008, 01:45:36 PM
If I remember correctly there was a play off system in place a few years ago, similar to the 1 down & next 2 play-off, think it was dropped after 1 year.
It didnt make much difference in many of the divisions
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 22, 2008, 01:52:37 PM
Quote from: full back on October 22, 2008, 01:45:36 PM
If I remember correctly there was a play off system in place a few years ago, similar to the 1 down & next 2 play-off, think it was dropped after 1 year.
It didnt make much difference in many of the divisions

Made a huge difference for us. Without the playoff system we'd have spent last year in division 3.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 22, 2008, 02:01:16 PM
The clans only had one representative on the county panel this year and if memory serves me correctly he was never at any seniro championship games only national league. That was Ronan Austin.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 22, 2008, 02:03:14 PM
Ok so Clans and Mullaghbawn, but if you go through the rest of the teams, every team is significantly weakened as their hub is removed by county football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 22, 2008, 02:04:22 PM
Quote from: full back on October 22, 2008, 01:45:36 PM
If I remember correctly there was a play off system in place a few years ago, similar to the 1 down & next 2 play-off, think it was dropped after 1 year.
It didnt make much difference in many of the divisions

Sarsfields would beg to differ
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 22, 2008, 02:12:11 PM
Whats the story for Steven Kernan, is he injured or simply not getting on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 22, 2008, 02:33:44 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 22, 2008, 02:03:14 PM
Ok so Clans and Mullaghbawn, but if you go through the rest of the teams, every team is significantly weakened as their hub is removed by county football.
dont know about that at all.  Cullyhanna (1) Cullaville (0) Mullaghbawn (0) Maghery (1)

Harps, Ogs & Dromintee bear the brunt (although us only recently), Cross here as well obviously, but they seem to manage ok :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 22, 2008, 02:45:54 PM
When I think of Cullyhanna I always include Mackin, my mistake. Maghery have two - Forker and Lavery. Other than tht you have just made my post look stupid.  :P

AFS - I believe it happened last year or the year before, he couldn't get on the first 15. I think he is injured this year though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 22, 2008, 04:11:12 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on October 20, 2008, 10:29:42 AM
Yesterday's programme said that the game yesterday was John Mac's 33rd championship final - that is some going.  BC (or anyone else) can you name them?

If only Cross had the Harps midifeld diamond.............

I checked the player profiles in the 2007 final programme and adding the couple of titles they have won since the Mc Entees have won 13 Armagh senior titles, 5 under 21's, 1 minor, 1 under 16, 6 Ulster and 4 all Irelands. Thats 30 winning finals they have played in for Cross, quite a haul.
Dont know where your man got 33 from but they could have played in losing finals at under age level.
I will try to check it out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 22, 2008, 04:14:18 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 22, 2008, 04:11:12 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on October 20, 2008, 10:29:42 AM
Yesterday's programme said that the game yesterday was John Mac's 33rd championship final - that is some going.  BC (or anyone else) can you name them?

If only Cross had the Harps midifeld diamond.............

I checked the player profiles in the 2007 final programme and adding the couple of titles they have won since the Mc Entees have won 13 Armagh senior titles, 5 under 21's, 1 minor, 1 under 16, 6 Ulster and 4 all Irelands. Thats 30 winning finals they have played in for Cross, quite a haul.
Dont know where your man got 33 from but they could have played in losing finals at under age level.
I will try to check it out

Pretty sure they never lost a final at underage?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on October 22, 2008, 04:22:06 PM
If you add in finals played in for armagh what do you get?

Did JME not miss playing in the Ulster club final one year when he was in Australia on his honeymoon or holidays or was that Tony....or did I just make that up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 22, 2008, 04:25:29 PM
No one certainly did, think John. They played Mayobridge in the final. 2002 perhaps?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 22, 2008, 05:46:12 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 22, 2008, 02:33:44 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 22, 2008, 02:03:14 PM
Ok so Clans and Mullaghbawn, but if you go through the rest of the teams, every team is significantly weakened as their hub is removed by county football.
dont know about that at all.  Cullyhanna (1) Cullaville (0) Mullaghbawn (0) Maghery (1)

Harps, Ogs & Dromintee bear the brunt (although us only recently), Cross here as well obviously, but they seem to manage ok :P

Benny Liam O'Hare was on the panel this year. He was injured a lot of the year but wasn't available for us as he was still attached to Armagh. Even though our numbers are fairly small ont he county, it does have a huge effect as we're a different team without Ciaran.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 22, 2008, 06:29:40 PM
I can understand how it would TAC because they guys would be significant players for any club to be missing. Then when they do return it is difficult for them to fit into the club game not to mention the rest of the lads who have played all year being dropped.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 22, 2008, 07:07:37 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 22, 2008, 12:42:36 PM
Aye should be something, dont want to whinge about it, but I dont think we would have went down if we had've had our county men available (like the Ogs & Clans in the not too distant past). 
Maybe not benny but if there were playoffs and yous stayed up you would probably have to do without those men again next year and what? Struggle again in division 1? Is there much point in that?



The league is a league for a reason and should  not be decided by a one off game, that's what we've gotin the championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 22, 2008, 07:17:51 PM
13 Armagh, 6 Ulster Clubs, 4 All Irelands, 5 under 21's, 1 minor, 1 under 16.  We never lost in my age but he was 2 football years below me. He would also have won the Feile and Community Games as well.  Then you count in the AI for Armagh, 5/6 Ulsters and the U 21 Ulster as well.  Not a bad haul all told.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 22, 2008, 07:31:13 PM
cullyhanna have 2 players on the county liam o hare and ciaran mc keever they had mal mackin on it till last year and to be honest i think they made a big mistake dropping him as he was one off the best mid fielders in DIV 1 this year. ciaran mc keever is worth 2 players to cullyhanna
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 22, 2008, 07:35:13 PM
steven kernan is not good enough for armagh and to be honest he is just about good enough for crossmaglen.young clarke came in and took his spot and played 2 man off the match games so i dont know were steven is going to fit into that team now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 22, 2008, 08:20:09 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 22, 2008, 04:11:12 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on October 20, 2008, 10:29:42 AM
Yesterday's programme said that the game yesterday was John Mac's 33rd championship final - that is some going.  BC (or anyone else) can you name them?

If only Cross had the Harps midifeld diamond.............

I checked the player profiles in the 2007 final programme and adding the couple of titles they have won since the Mc Entees have won 13 Armagh senior titles, 5 under 21's, 1 minor, 1 under 16, 6 Ulster and 4 all Irelands. Thats 30 winning finals they have played in for Cross, quite a haul.
Dont know where your man got 33 from but they could have played in losing finals at under age level.
I will try to check it out

Add in a replay or 2 and you aren't far from the 33 that was quoted.  BTW, the 2004 Ulster club final wasn't one of them as John Mac was on honeymoon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 22, 2008, 11:25:36 PM
GERRY FROM DERRY
Re your query on the Armagh Harps thread, the captains for the 13 in a row were,

1996 Jim Mc Conville, 97 & 98 John Mc Entee, 99 & 2000 Anthony Cunningham, 01 & 02 Donal Murtagh, 03 John Donaldson, 04 & 05 Tony MC Entee, 06 Oisin Mc Conville, 07 John Mc Entee and 08 John Donaldson
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tbrick18 on October 23, 2008, 02:56:57 PM
Our club have a corporate event coming up and they are trying to get an MC for the night.
Anyone got any suggestions?
I hear Benny Tierney is good...can anyone confirm this? Or if anyone would have contact details for Tierney please PM me.

Thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 23, 2008, 03:00:14 PM
You could try Jimmy Smyth he ain't bad at the mc ing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tbrick18 on October 23, 2008, 03:12:23 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 23, 2008, 03:00:14 PM
You could try Jimmy Smyth he ain't bad at the mc ing.

Dont know much about him...and by much I mean anything :)
Where is he from? Any contact details even?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 23, 2008, 03:14:47 PM
Smith is a better MC. tierney is a great guest speaker though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tbrick18 on October 23, 2008, 03:44:30 PM
Quote from: The GAA on October 23, 2008, 03:14:47 PM
Smith is a better MC. tierney is a great guest speaker though

Anyone got any contact details? Or any idea how we might get in contact with him?
PM me if you have any details please.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on October 23, 2008, 04:14:11 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on October 23, 2008, 03:44:30 PM
Quote from: The GAA on October 23, 2008, 03:14:47 PM
Smith is a better MC. tierney is a great guest speaker though

Anyone got any contact details? Or any idea how we might get in contact with him?
PM me if you have any details please.

Tierny is £700-£1000 per night- there was a recent childrens fund raiser with big names like stevie mac, Anthony Tohill all attending free of charge- Tierny wouldnt wave his £500.00 charge-sc**bag
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 23, 2008, 04:17:00 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on October 23, 2008, 04:14:11 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on October 23, 2008, 03:44:30 PM
Quote from: The GAA on October 23, 2008, 03:14:47 PM
Smith is a better MC. tierney is a great guest speaker though

Anyone got any contact details? Or any idea how we might get in contact with him?
PM me if you have any details please.

Tierny is £700-£1000 per night- there was a recent childrens fund raiser with big names like stevie mac, Anthony Tohill all attending free of charge- Tierny wouldnt wave his £500.00 charge-sc**bag


Find this hard to believe.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 23, 2008, 04:18:46 PM
Wise up the fcuk gaapunter & take that sh1te off the board
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on October 23, 2008, 04:23:52 PM
There are some w**kers about too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on October 23, 2008, 04:39:01 PM
Quote from: full back on October 23, 2008, 04:18:46 PM
Wise up the fcuk gaapunter & take that sh1te off the board

Iam telling you lads he is highly sought after and knows how to charge acordingly
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on October 23, 2008, 04:39:42 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on October 23, 2008, 04:23:52 PM
There are some w**kers about too.


Ah how is your ma keeping anyway- you waste of space
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on October 23, 2008, 05:14:15 PM
What fundraiser was this. Surely if you name it someone on here can verify if your statement is true??? (which I doubt...  ::))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on October 23, 2008, 09:57:39 PM
Gaapunter taking it to a lower level again, what age are u 6?? >:(.....Speakin as a fellow club man of benny i now like a lot of these boys he has a price but in the case of fundraisers he is extremely generous....he recently was in dromintee there at there fundraiser and i would be extremely surprised if he charged...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 24, 2008, 09:29:22 AM
Quote from: Real1995 on October 23, 2008, 09:57:39 PM
Gaapunter taking it to a lower level again, what age are u 6?? >:(.....Speakin as a fellow club man of benny i now like a lot of these boys he has a price but in the case of fundraisers he is extremely generous....he recently was in dromintee there at there fundraiser and i would be extremely surprised if he charged...

No, near ceratain he didn't, and he was very good too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 24, 2008, 09:42:54 AM
The brick what club are you from anyway?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tbrick18 on October 24, 2008, 04:39:10 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 24, 2008, 09:42:54 AM
The brick what club are you from anyway?

Ballinascreen in Derry.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MrTaylor on October 24, 2008, 05:05:43 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on October 23, 2008, 02:56:57 PM
Our club have a corporate event coming up and they are trying to get an MC for the night.
Anyone got any suggestions?
I hear Benny Tierney is good...can anyone confirm this? Or if anyone would have contact details for Tierney please PM me.

Thanks

Jarlath Burns is very good as an MC as is your County PRO Gerry Donnelly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tbrick18 on October 24, 2008, 05:08:30 PM
Quote from: MrTaylor on October 24, 2008, 05:05:43 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on October 23, 2008, 02:56:57 PM
Our club have a corporate event coming up and they are trying to get an MC for the night.
Anyone got any suggestions?
I hear Benny Tierney is good...can anyone confirm this? Or if anyone would have contact details for Tierney please PM me.

Thanks

Jarlath Burns is very good as an MC as is your County PRO Gerry Donnelly.

Jarlath was a guest speaker at the last one we had. I think he doesnt want to do any more of that sort of thing as we had bother getting him to do it then. Gerry was the MC that night...dont know why we dont have him this time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 24, 2008, 06:51:35 PM
have to say Benny does a lot of charity work and i would be shocked if he charged for a charity night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 26, 2008, 03:01:22 PM
Equalling the record set by Ballina ( 1904 to 1916 ) was a massive achievement by our team. The team and management deserve all our praise as it takes massive commitment to keep the momentum going.
our appreciation also goes to the players who contributed along the way and are now retired such as Broken crossbar 1. Without their contribution this record could not have been reached.
It will be a great relief to the present players to have achieved the 13 in a row, for despite what they were saying i am sure they would not have liked to have fallen short of Ballina's record.
Cross can now boast that no team has won more consecutive County titles than they have regardless of what happens next year. However i am sure that they will be very determined next year to get number 14 and thus hold the record outright.

With a bit of luck we can do that and then we wont really care who wins it in 2010  ;).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 26, 2008, 04:17:32 PM
any word on how pauls/ballyhegan finished up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Broken_Cross on October 26, 2008, 05:48:32 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 26, 2008, 04:17:32 PM
any word on how pauls/ballyhegan finished up

Davitts hung on to end...

HT - St. Pauls 0-0 - Ballyhegan 0-7

FT - St. Paul 0-6 - Ballyheagan 0-8

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 27, 2008, 09:17:39 AM
Quote from: Broken_Cross on October 26, 2008, 05:48:32 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 26, 2008, 04:17:32 PM
any word on how pauls/ballyhegan finished up

Davitts hung on to end...

HT - St. Pauls 0-0 - Ballyhegan 0-7

FT - St. Paul 0-6 - Ballyheagan 0-8

Ballyhegan were super in the first half, very dominant in midfield with Paul Courtney excelling, in the absence of Paul McGrane.
2nd half though St Pauls came out a different team, got on top in midfield & created plenty of scoring chances. The loss of Full Forward Mark Hughes, along with some very wayward shooting from centre forward Paddy McKeever allowed the Lurgan men back in it and left an exciting finish to the game.

It's never straightforward with Ballyhegan!

Super win for the Davitt's to set up some intriguing contests next year, back in Division 2, v Harps, Maghery & Portydown!!!  ;D

QuoteBallinascreen in Derry.

I though Killyman or Dungannon Clarkes was your team?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Broken_Cross on October 27, 2008, 11:45:07 AM
Quote

Super win for the Davitt's to set up some intriguing contests next year, back in Division 2, v Harps, Maghery & Portydown!!!  ;D


Aye, I'd say Tiffney's & Co will get a 'nice' welcome when they return to Tir na Og...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laceer on October 27, 2008, 01:16:51 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 27, 2008, 09:17:39 AM

Quote

I though Killyman or Dungannon Clarkes was your team?  ;)


Killyman?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 27, 2008, 10:22:58 PM
There hasn't been much activity on this thread this past week. ............Jaysus it's a long wake.  :) :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 28, 2008, 11:43:21 AM
It is the of season for most of us Crossfire  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on October 28, 2008, 01:36:18 PM
irish news today has mattie lennon stepping down as armagh hurling manager,done a lot for armagh hurling in his three years in charge,sure the players are disappointed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on October 29, 2008, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: MrTaylor on October 24, 2008, 05:05:43 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on October 23, 2008, 02:56:57 PM
Our club have a corporate event coming up and they are trying to get an MC for the night.
Anyone got any suggestions?
I hear Benny Tierney is good...can anyone confirm this? Or if anyone would have contact details for Tierney please PM me.

Thanks

Jarlath Burns is very good as an MC as is your County PRO Gerry Donnelly.

His comment at a county board fundraiser a few years ago about there being no legitimate businesses in Culloville was particularly funny  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 29, 2008, 02:00:13 PM
Quote from: rootthemout on October 28, 2008, 01:36:18 PM
irish news today has mattie lennon stepping down as armagh hurling manager,done a lot for armagh hurling in his three years in charge,sure the players are disappointed.

Yeah, surprised to see it as the team was moving in the right direction. Seemed a good guy and there is plenty of talent thee. He certainly has set the ball rolling.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on October 29, 2008, 03:13:44 PM
Quote from: thebandit on October 29, 2008, 11:35:13 AM
Quote from: MrTaylor on October 24, 2008, 05:05:43 PM
Quote from: tbrick18 on October 23, 2008, 02:56:57 PM
Our club have a corporate event coming up and they are trying to get an MC for the night.
Anyone got any suggestions?
I hear Benny Tierney is good...can anyone confirm this? Or if anyone would have contact details for Tierney please PM me.

Thanks

Jarlath Burns is very good as an MC as is your County PRO Gerry Donnelly.

His comment at a county board fundraiser a few years ago about there being no legitimate businesses in Culloville was particularly funny  >:(

Benny & Mr Burns are v good alrite. i no them and every body has a good word of them except Benny has bad maners sometimes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 29, 2008, 04:28:42 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 29, 2008, 04:24:39 PM
Quote from: corn02 on October 29, 2008, 02:00:13 PM
Quote from: rootthemout on October 28, 2008, 01:36:18 PM
irish news today has mattie lennon stepping down as armagh hurling manager,done a lot for armagh hurling in his three years in charge,sure the players are disappointed.

Yeah, surprised to see it as the team was moving in the right direction. Seemed a good guy and there is plenty of talent thee. He certainly has set the ball rolling.

I think the fact that there has only been 2 or 3 posts on here on the subject of his resignation highlights how good a job he did in a county with such a dearth of hurling enthusiasm. Fair play to him, he more than did his bit for hurling in the county and I think we can only hope he is replaced by someone with somewhere near the same level of dedication.

Was thinking the same, although the board is quiet. Of course, he was involved in the All Ireland U21 football win as well. There is a young talented team there and it is hard to know who will come in. Lennon always seemed very genuine.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on October 29, 2008, 05:13:59 PM
I know Mattie well, and he has started a business in the last 12 months so I'd say that played a part. He seemed to have done quite well with that team so it's a pity to see him go.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 30, 2008, 10:48:53 PM
i just want to wish ciaran mc keever and the Ireland team the best off luck for tomorrow
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on October 31, 2008, 10:50:15 AM
Lads fixtures for the national league released

3 games under lights on a saturday night in the mecca which is the athletic grounds

01.02.2009 (Sun)
2.30pm    Loch Garman    v   Ard Mhacha

14.02.2009 (Sat)
7.30pm    Ard Mhacha       v    Laois

07.03.2009 (Sat)
7.30pm   Ard Mhacha       v    Muineachán

15.03.2009 (Sun)
2.30pm   Fear Manach    v    Ard Mhacha

22.03.2009 (Sun)
2.30pm   Cill Dara       v    Ard Mhacha

28.03.2009 (Sat)
7.30pm   Ard Mhacha       v    An Mhí

12.04.2009 (Sun)
2.30pm   Corcaigh       v    Ard Mhacha
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 31, 2008, 11:12:56 AM
Good stuff. should make interesting viewing and closer to home for change.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on October 31, 2008, 11:34:52 AM
Three homes is a bit of a blow, I think we need to go up this year and we have a good chance. Good to have Monaghan at home, nice to turn them over after last year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on October 31, 2008, 12:47:13 PM

Jaysus they should have beat monaghan last year. was it kernan missed the free before mcnulty gave away the howler at the end?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stevie Nicks on October 31, 2008, 01:18:11 PM
That's valentines sorted for next year a nice romantic night under the light in the Athletic Grounds ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 31, 2008, 01:25:50 PM
Is there any real need to play all the home fixtures under lights. One or two on a Sunday afternoon would have done no harm. Could Wexford be done in a day?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 31, 2008, 02:05:53 PM
Was down there on hols this summer, great roads the whole way down - motorway or dual 95% of the journey, think they play most of their home games in Enniscourthy?? 3 1/2 hours or less would get you there from Armagh city anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 31, 2008, 03:56:34 PM
In terms of attendance numbers, are Saturday night games appealing to travelling fans. You could get a couple of thousand Meath folk coming to a game, would they go on a Saturday night? Likewise Monaghan. Laois wouldn't have too many travelling to Armagh, I suspect.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 31, 2008, 05:30:05 PM
i see cruppen looking for a new manager and them only after gaining promotion.
anyone know the score ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on October 31, 2008, 11:32:59 PM
1-10 to 0-15
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 01, 2008, 04:42:59 PM
Returns after six months and gives it John the Lemon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 01, 2008, 05:43:25 PM
Would the cruppen lads be paying this new manager ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on November 01, 2008, 09:42:06 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 01, 2008, 05:43:25 PM
Would the cruppen lads be paying this new manager ???

Surely not!!  Advertising Irish News 2 days running.
Always think it looks poor on a club having to resort to public advertising.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on November 01, 2008, 11:01:32 PM
cruppen looking for a manager.What is wrong with the mangers that took 2 under 21 c ships to the club surly they need to step up to the mark and see what there made off in the first DIV rather than pay some man that is not a cruppen man but just there for the money.....
                      cruppen to go straight back down
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 02, 2008, 05:05:24 PM
Hear Middletown were beaten by a point in the Ulster JFC.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on November 03, 2008, 09:55:09 AM

Any new managerial appointments?

David O'Reilly is staying with killeavy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 03, 2008, 10:04:43 AM
Noel Mc Ginn is taking over at Crossmaglen  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 03, 2008, 10:54:03 AM
Clans will be looking for a new manager this year aswell. But they won't be paying anyone a shilling. It will most likely be someone within the club.

Would there be many teams in Armagh that would pay managers???? Do the clubs by law have to advertise the jobs in the paper or can they just keep it internal???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on November 03, 2008, 11:26:48 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on October 31, 2008, 05:30:05 PM
i see cruppen looking for a new manager and them only after gaining promotion.
anyone know the score ?
cruppen were told at the start of the season by the two managers that this would be their last year as they had been at cruppen over 4 years
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on November 03, 2008, 11:42:21 AM

Doesn't look like they'll be taking the internal option or they'd hardly be advertising in the irish news.

dromintee are on the look out for a new manager as well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 03, 2008, 02:25:26 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 03, 2008, 10:54:03 AM
Clans will be looking for a new manager this year aswell. But they won't be paying anyone a shilling. It will most likely be someone within the club.

Would there be many teams in Armagh that would pay managers???? Do the clubs by law have to advertise the jobs in the paper or can they just keep it internal???

heard a rumour after the cross defeat about who it might possibly be, did you hear anything?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 03, 2008, 03:36:26 PM
yes have heard a few rumours but this ain't the place for the rumour mill lad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on November 03, 2008, 03:43:53 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 03, 2008, 03:36:26 PM
yes have heard a few rumours but this ain't the place for the rumour mill lad.

Of course it is!   8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 03, 2008, 03:53:47 PM
ACMFL result

Clan na Gael 5-8
Crossmaglen 3-8

don't worry i would only disclose rumours about other clubs, not my own  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on November 03, 2008, 04:12:31 PM
Pints any word on the bridge manager. After two poor seasons a change is probally needed/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 03, 2008, 05:00:51 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 03, 2008, 10:54:03 AM
Clans will be looking for a new manager this year aswell. But they won't be paying anyone a shilling. It will most likely be someone within the club.

Would there be many teams in Armagh that would pay managers???? Do the clubs by law have to advertise the jobs in the paper or can they just keep it internal???

I might put in for it myself Win ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 03, 2008, 07:07:13 PM
Haven't heard anything on a manager charlie.
Wouldnt' really call either years poor years, last years championship was a dissapointment, this years league was a dissapointment.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 03, 2008, 07:27:34 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 03, 2008, 07:24:56 PM
Pints, who all is away to Oz from the Bridge? I've heard a few names, but they were from an unreliable source. Will they be away for all of next year?
I haven't heard any names.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 03, 2008, 07:39:49 PM
btw afs, the way things are going I'd be surprised if most clubs arent affected by lads going away.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on November 03, 2008, 08:56:25 PM
Young Reel who played half back is away i believe. Steady player.
Think there were 3 or 4 other first teamers left 2 or 3 weeks ago for the year.
Mc Cann could be heading in new year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 03, 2008, 09:07:30 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 03, 2008, 05:00:51 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 03, 2008, 10:54:03 AM
Clans will be looking for a new manager this year aswell. But they won't be paying anyone a shilling. It will most likely be someone within the club.

Would there be many teams in Armagh that would pay managers???? Do the clubs by law have to advertise the jobs in the paper or can they just keep it internal???

I might put in for it myself Win ;D


Dont bother son!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 04, 2008, 09:34:15 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 03, 2008, 09:07:30 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 03, 2008, 05:00:51 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 03, 2008, 10:54:03 AM
Clans will be looking for a new manager this year aswell. But they won't be paying anyone a shilling. It will most likely be someone within the club.

Would there be many teams in Armagh that would pay managers???? Do the clubs by law have to advertise the jobs in the paper or can they just keep it internal???

I might put in for it myself Win ;D


Dont bother son!



What about you Batman would you rather do it, you could always bring you're bottles of buckfast into the changing rooms for the lads that should put a bit of dutch courage into some of them...lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on November 04, 2008, 12:03:41 PM
I hear Joe Kernan is line to take over the bridge on a full-time salary of cheeseburgers and bbq ribs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 04, 2008, 02:00:52 PM
 :D :D yes and with Ciaran Mc keever in his back up team  :D :D :D

Both of you mares could go in for the job as batman and Robin. Though i am sure cathal short will give one of you a fine entry in your CV. It will read "he's a great lad sure he gives me the free run of the park" ;) ;) ;) :D :D   Correct son. Ya bear ya.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on November 04, 2008, 10:42:35 PM
cullyhanna is playing in crossmaglen sunday in front off the crossmaglen game should be  good turn out for these 2 games.the last time cullyhanna went to armagh to play in the final off the inter they found out there was no showers  they had to drive back to the club for a shower it was a disgrace
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 04, 2008, 11:27:56 PM
I am sure they will get a shower in cross back of the net :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 05, 2008, 09:19:30 AM
Both games are down for the Athletic Grounds and there has been bother there with facilities, so they mightn't get a shower at all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 05, 2008, 09:32:59 AM
I thought the games were in Crossmaglen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 05, 2008, 09:56:07 AM
Irish News fixtures yesterday gave it as Athletic Grounds, but I see there is a correction in today's paper, so it is in Cross.  Just made up my mind about attending, gives a brutal day on Sunday too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Red Hurley on November 05, 2008, 10:44:36 AM
Is there any news on the appointment of the new Armagh Hurling manager? Any candidates putting their head on the block?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 05, 2008, 11:51:47 AM
So they should have no bother getting a shower in Cross then
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on November 06, 2008, 11:54:40 AM
NEW COUNTY UNDER-21 FOOTBALL MANAGER APPOINTED

Former Armagh joint manager Brian McAlinden has been appointed as the Orchard County's new Under-21 Football boss.
McAlinden's appointment comes after Peter McDonnell decided to relinquish the role to concentrate on the senior team.
The Derrytrasna man's appointment was ratified at a meeting of the Armagh County Committee last night.
His selectors will be Liam McCorry (St Paul's) and Gerry Flynn (Carrickcruppen).
Wayne Callan, who worked with McAlinden during his stint with Brian Canavan as joint senior managers, will train the side.

www.orchardcounty.com

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on November 06, 2008, 11:59:11 AM

Who is Gerry Flynn?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cross13 on November 06, 2008, 01:40:35 PM
heard from cahol short today the games are now in armagh. he said they will be told for def at training tonight.

pints surprised you dont know what club men away to oz, nial real, brendan mugaire, Ciaran campbell and Fergal (slippy ) conolly (who was out with injury i think this year but good player
also heard d mc can, meahol reel and liam campbell heading out at christmas but not sure how true this bit is until they go i suppose but if they dio what a bit clump of first 15 players to be missing in next seasion unless they only going for 6 months or something

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on November 06, 2008, 02:02:10 PM
Quote from: cross13 on November 06, 2008, 01:40:35 PM
heard from cahol short today the games are now in armagh. he said they will be told for def at training tonight.

pints surprised you dont know what club men away to oz, nial real, brendan mugaire, Ciaran campbell and Fergal (slippy ) conolly (who was out with injury i think this year but good player
also heard d mc can, meahol reel and liam campbell heading out at christmas but not sure how true this bit is until they go i suppose but if they dio what a bit clump of first 15 players to be missing in next seasion unless they only going for 6 months or something



St Joesphs not teach spelling any more??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 06, 2008, 02:12:51 PM
Quote from: cross13 on November 06, 2008, 01:40:35 PM
heard from cahol short today the games are now in armagh. he said they will be told for def at training tonight.

pints surprised you dont know what club men away to oz, nial real, brendan mugaire, Ciaran campbell and Fergal (slippy ) conolly (who was out with injury i think this year but good player
also heard d mc can, meahol reel and liam campbell heading out at christmas but not sure how true this bit is until they go i suppose but if they dio what a bit clump of first 15 players to be missing in next seasion unless they only going for 6 months or something


Me no speak no English.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on November 06, 2008, 02:26:11 PM
Quote from: The GAA on November 06, 2008, 11:59:11 AM

Who is Gerry Flynn?
was one of cruppen`s u-21 managers,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on November 06, 2008, 02:32:39 PM

How many managers did their u21s have?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cross13 on November 06, 2008, 03:20:31 PM
does the spelling matter, as long as you can understand what im saying.

sometimes people dont have all day and have to type fast and go.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 06, 2008, 04:20:15 PM
I bet you say that to all the girls! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 06, 2008, 10:10:30 PM
Armagh would have a good under 21 squad in 2009, the key players being Kieran Toner and Stefan Forker.

There are also some good players from Cross but going by Mr Mc Alindens record when he was senior manager he might not want them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 06, 2008, 10:11:57 PM
BOTH ULSTER CLUB GAMES ARE IN CROSSMAGLEN ON SUNDAY.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on November 06, 2008, 10:58:43 PM
£12 stg into the double header on Sunday - a bloody disgrace into 1st round games! so much for the credit crunch  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on November 06, 2008, 11:12:20 PM
its good to see that cullyhanna will be the first team to play on the new cross field.nice to ask the neighbours to open the field
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 07, 2008, 09:19:58 AM
Quote from: AFS on November 06, 2008, 10:18:40 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 06, 2008, 10:10:30 PM
Armagh would have a good under 21 squad in 2009, the key players being Kieran Toner and Stefan Forker.

There are also some good players from Cross but going by Mr Mc Alindens record when he was senior manager he might not want them.

You sure Toner is still U-21? Don't think he is, maybe not Forker either
Toner should be fine, I dont think he's 21 until March time.  Forker is younger than him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Feckitt on November 07, 2008, 10:21:09 AM
I know there were trials recenlty for Armagh Minor squad.  Has the squad been announced?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on November 07, 2008, 12:38:22 PM
Heard that Justin McNulty & John Toal where also in for the U-21 job.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 07, 2008, 12:40:08 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on November 06, 2008, 10:58:43 PM
£12 stg into the double header on Sunday - a bloody disgrace into 1st round games! so much for the credit crunch  ::)

Worth every penny  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 07, 2008, 03:47:28 PM
Armagh defender Enda McNulty is hopeful over some of the Orchard County's veteran players prolonging their inter-county careers so as the team can achieve further success.

The 31-year-old struggled to overcome a hamstring injury this season, but intents to come back fresh for Peter McDonnell's side next season


While all time leading Ulster Championship scorer Oisin McConville has hung up his boots with Armagh, the likes of Aidan O'Rourke (31), Francie Bellew (32) and Paul McGrane (34) have been muted since their All-Ireland quarter-final defeat to Wexford as to whether or not they intend making a return in an orange jersey next season.

"This is the biggest honour you will ever give, to play with your county, and you want to prolong that as long as you can," said McNulty.


----

So that's Enda on board for another year. There will be very few joining Oisin. Bellew is probably the only other candidate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on November 07, 2008, 04:04:57 PM
The rest of the players listed there still have something to offer but IMHO Mc Nulty should have retired before last year. there is better than him sitting on the bench and He def not County standard.

Are the Cross v St Pats and Cullyhanna v Greenlough games def on in Cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on November 07, 2008, 10:48:03 PM
What times are the games at?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on November 08, 2008, 11:16:57 AM
Ulster Intermediate Football Club Quarter-final (12.45)
St Patrick's, Cullyhanna  (Armagh) v Greenlough (Derry)

Ulster Senior Football Club Quarter-final (2.30)
Crossmaglen Rangers (Armagh) v St Patrick's Donagh (Fermanagh)

Both games at Oliver Plunkett Park, Crossmaglen - Sunday 9 November.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on November 08, 2008, 12:53:16 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 07, 2008, 07:13:53 PM
AOR and McGrane would be well worth keeping on. Not so sure about Enda or Francie, both seemed to show the effects of injuries/age last year with their pace particularly affected.

Just an idea but if Francie goes and AOR stays on, could he be shifted back to full back? Although he might lack a bit of pace, AOR is a very clever player who always seems to be in the right place at the right time. I just wouldn't be so sure about Donaghy at full back yet, I'd rather see him nail down a CB or HB spot for a year or two before he'd be shifted into FB as its such a crucial position.
surely McDonald wouldn't allow that" oh sorry, sure he doesn't pick the team AOR does", as he would most defiantly be exposed.  I think there should be a complete clean out, and this would include Francie, AOR, MOR, Enda.  The only one of the elder players that has something to offer is McGrane.  At least then McDonald would be in charge and not certain individual/'s
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on November 08, 2008, 05:13:10 PM
AFS. I have been arguing that Donaghy is a more natural half back. I am not sure of him playing full back. Think he can do a good job there because he is a good footballer but would be more suited outthe field.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on November 09, 2008, 05:19:15 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on November 08, 2008, 12:53:16 PM
surely McDonald wouldn't allow that" oh sorry, sure he doesn't pick the team AOR does", as he would most defiantly be exposed.  I think there should be a complete clean out, and this would include Francie, AOR, MOR, Enda. 

Not the first time i've heard cross lads making outrageous claims against McDonnell. co board picks the team, players pick the team, sponsor picks the team, hates cross players, etc.

would there be any annoyance round yourclub simply because you guys have no longer carte blanche over the county team any more?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 09, 2008, 05:52:21 PM
The GAA I don't know for sure that goh is from Cross. He certainly never came across as being from Cross.  Preter is the right man for the job in my opinion and I have always said that.  He will bring this team on to a different place then they are at now if he is left to run it his way. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on November 09, 2008, 06:07:20 PM

i wouldn't know mcdonnell but from what i hear he's a straight fella and the right man for the job. read goh's list of previous posts and you'll not be in much doubt where he's from bc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2008, 06:41:33 PM
Mixed fortunes for the Armagh clubs with a comfortable win for the Rangers while St pat's were beaten by 2 points - 0-11 to 0-9.

Bitterly disappointed with the result today. Very poor performance, we just weren't at the races at all. Started ok with a Shane McKeever point but we went out of it for about 10 minutes at the start of the first half when Greenlough built up a 0-3 to 0-1 lead. We then started to come back into the game and drew level from a Kieran McKeever free and an Aidan Mackin point (I think). Gave away a couple of silly frees then but we went in level at 5 points a piece at half time after Barry McConville scored a late point although he probably should have gone for a goal.

While we hadn't played that well int he first half, going in level and with the breeze at our backs in the second half, I thought we'd be ok but it was a very poor second half from Cullyhanna. We had the chances to win the game and spurned a couple of really good positions with fellas taking on shots instead of looking and passing to a teammater in a goal scoring position. Poor option taking probably cost us the match while there were a few strange decisions on the line. We got very jittery on the ball towards the end and gifted Greenlough a point when 1 behind with a couple of minutes to go which killed the game.

Desperately disappointing today. Our first match in an Ulster championship and we didn't do ourselves justice at all. It might be a long time until we have a chance like that in an Ulster competition again. Its a real opportunity lost. Don;t want to take anything away from Greenlough though who deserved their victory on the day. Very reliant on Enda Lynn who most of their moves go through although I thought Shane Lennon did very well on him for 45 minutes until he was taken off. The bald fella at full forward seemed like a decent footballer too. They did well to disrupt our midfield which wasn;t the strength for us it has been.

Don't want to be too critical of the St Pat's lads. There were 2 aims at the start of the end - staying in division 1 and winning the Intermediate - both of which they did in style. Its just a real pity we couldn't have gone a bit further in Ulster.

As for Cross, they were just going through the motions and won comfortably. Couple of brilliant scores - one from Oisin and one from T Kernan were the highlight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on November 09, 2008, 07:00:20 PM
Quote from: The GAA on November 09, 2008, 06:07:20 PM

i wouldn't know mcdonnell but from what i hear he's a straight fella and the right man for the job. read goh's list of previous posts and you'll not be in much doubt where he's from bc.

I think he said at one stage that he was from Louth.... I presumed that he was from Shelagh/Kilkerley/Hack direction
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on November 09, 2008, 07:35:26 PM
Quote from: The GAA on November 09, 2008, 05:19:15 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on November 08, 2008, 12:53:16 PM
surely McDonald wouldn't allow that" oh sorry, sure he doesn't pick the team AOR does", as he would most defiantly be exposed.  I think there should be a complete clean out, and this would include Francie, AOR, MOR, Enda. 

Not the first time i've heard cross lads making outrageous claims against McDonnell. co board picks the team, players pick the team, sponsor picks the team, hates cross players, etc.

would there be any annoyance round yourclub simply because you guys have no longer carte blanche over the county team any more?

I'm not from Cross GAA and it wouldn't matter if i was, the comments i made were first hand information from players on the panel, and yes before you ask some were from Cross and other were from other clubs, do you want me to name them all.
This is what the players were saying, so there not outrageous claims, sure if you know anything or mix in GAA circles you bound to have heard this. all be it there's abit added to storeies everytime its told, but this was what was happening this season.

I think McDonald is a good enough manager, but if he allows players to control the dressing room, then his cred is finished and he managerial career as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 09, 2008, 07:53:31 PM
The GAA - did you previously post on this board under a different name?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2008, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 09, 2008, 07:59:42 PM
Very disappointing result there from Cullyhanna, didn't see the match so I can't criticise I suppose.

Though the one thing that does strike me is the fact that the team that finished 20th in the Derry league ladder is better than the team that finished 3rd in our own league. This is a pretty poor indictment of the standard of club football in the county.

Its a fair point AFS but the one thing I would say is that if we'd have produced the football that got us to 3rd in the league this year, we'd probably have won. But we didn't and Greenlough deservedly beat us.

Ironically the only close game we had in Armagh was against a side that will playing division 4 football next year. We got away with a complacent performance that day, we weren't so lucky today.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on November 09, 2008, 08:27:20 PM
cullyhanna were beat by 2 points today in a game they could have taken if the right pass had to being played to  many poor decisions made in front off goal.shane lennon pulling up in the 2nd half was a big lost as he was marking there play maker st pats mid field did not get going ciaran mc keever was still very tired looking from austraila and mal mackin worked hard but nothing fell his way.dont think greenlough will win it if cullyhanna had to have turned up they would have taken it handy.
                                        trillick to win it another one for tyrone
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on November 09, 2008, 08:47:16 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 09, 2008, 07:53:31 PM
The GAA - did you previously post on this board under a different name?


Yeah, years ago pints. doubt anyone here would remember.

that sounds like pub talk goh and i've never heard it anywhere. only complaint i've heard about him and the players is that he's very distant and doesn't communicate that well at all.

if you're not from cross goh, why is every post in your posting history either about cross players or criticising armagh's management?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on November 09, 2008, 09:00:56 PM
Quote from: The GAA on November 09, 2008, 08:47:16 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 09, 2008, 07:53:31 PM
The GAA - did you previously post on this board under a different name?


Yeah, years ago pints. doubt anyone here would remember.

that sounds like pub talk goh and i've never heard it anywhere. only complaint i've heard about him and the players is that he's very distant and doesn't communicate that well at all.

if you're not from cross goh, why is every post in your posting history either about cross players or criticising armagh's management?
what i post on/about, is my business & if you can find another post of mine criticizing Armagh then let me see it, I just stated which is pretty much common knowledge really. regarding the pub talk jibe, I don't do it, but clearly you do, with your anti Cross views. So what club are you from just to clear the air
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 09, 2008, 09:04:41 PM

QuoteYeah, years ago pints. doubt anyone here would remember.
I was actually thinking of someone more recent. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on November 09, 2008, 09:18:56 PM
Lots of complaints from Students who had to pay £12 entrance fee to Crossmaglen for the Ulster Club games.
This is most unfair as there was concessions for OAP's and quite rightly but no for Students.
Surely the GAA should be encouraging these young people to come to our games instead of driving them away by charging them £12.
Who sets these fees and can our county representatives at Ulster Council not get this changed?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: KIDDO 4 on November 09, 2008, 11:20:49 PM
Hand the gateman 10.00 sterling , often they will not refuse .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on November 09, 2008, 11:23:27 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on November 09, 2008, 09:00:56 PM
Quote from: The GAA on November 09, 2008, 08:47:16 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 09, 2008, 07:53:31 PM
The GAA - did you previously post on this board under a different name?


Yeah, years ago pints. doubt anyone here would remember.

that sounds like pub talk goh and i've never heard it anywhere. only complaint i've heard about him and the players is that he's very distant and doesn't communicate that well at all.

if you're not from cross goh, why is every post in your posting history either about cross players or criticising armagh's management?
what i post on/about, is my business & if you can find another post of mine criticizing Armagh then let me see it, I just stated which is pretty much common knowledge really. regarding the pub talk jibe, I don't do it, but clearly you do, with your anti Cross views. So what club are you from just to clear the air

I'm from keady.

post up my "anti cross views" there like a good man...

i don't know how any of your nonsense can be common knowledge when there's only you knows it!

Quote from: goh4205 on August 10, 2008, 11:41:16 AM
It is pretty easy to look good when you have no to mark as said previous.  McGrane was on his own & I don't think he should retire, he has another left in him i think.  Regarding McConville I think the Armagh supporters don't realise it, but it will be a very long time before they have his likes again.  They only come round in a life time and for the management to treat him like they have this year was a disgrace.  If they didn't want him, why didn't they tell him at the start of the year, if one was cynical you would think they did this to embarrass or humiliate the guy.  real shame to see this guy go in the manner he has.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 10, 2008, 11:41:16 AM
Wexford are a very average team, but clear to good for this Armagh team that had no direction or idea what to do on a pitch which has massive space to avail off.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 09, 2008, 10:07:38 PM
Quote from: INDIANA on August 09, 2008, 09:51:33 PM
tommy andy mallon is a fine player would get on any team, but would the rest? mckeever isn't great when he's on pace and i thought banville gave him the run around today.kernan is great going forward but as seen against vincents earlier in the year ,isn;t a great defender and his tackling technique isn;t good and because of it he gives away frees. He's a talior made half forward who is accurate and why armagh don't play him there is beyond me. Bellew did well until the end in fairness but dropping back your half forward line is a futile exercise unless they have the gas to get upand support the front two and armagh paid for that today.

Couldn't agree more Indiana, very true post, so what does that tell you about the management that Armagh have.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 09, 2008, 10:00:00 PM
Quote from: Rav67 on August 09, 2008, 06:20:47 PM
Very surprised at that result, the quality of Ulster football this Championship season has been abysmal.  Armagh's midfield disappeared when it counted, their half-forward line was shite and Bellew surely should have been switched off Forde before the end although he did well in the first half.  Would expect a few off their elder statesmen to retire now although they should do all they can to persuade Aidan O'Rourke to stay, he had a very good game today I thought.
it's pretty easy to look good when you have no one to mark. the reason Armagh had no half forward line was they were back covering for Aidan & this has been the system of play all season.  It was always going to work on wet mucky & small pitches, but on bigger parks it told the story today.  There is no doubting his pacing ability, but he has no pace, never had, and I think he should think carefully about returning next year. All said, what has McDonnell brought to this Armagh Camp, NOTHING in my opinion, he is stuck in the same old system that Kernan & Grimley developed when no one else understood it & he was expecting older lads to play the same system of play when they hadend the fitness or the legs for it. Maybe Armagh should have gone with Grimley & McGeeney at least the players would have their heart in it, as it clear didn't look that way today.
That said Wexford had their homework done & deserved their win, Armagh will be back, they have the strength coming through, more so than any of the other Ulster teams that have showed up this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 09, 2008, 11:31:08 PM
Was not at any of the games today but the third most consistent SENIOR team in armagh this year (Cullyhanna) is beat by an intermediate second division football team from Derry

Any body any opinions on this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 09, 2008, 11:38:55 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on November 09, 2008, 11:31:08 PM
Was not at any of the games today but the third most consistent SENIOR team in armagh this year (Cullyhanna) is beat by an intermediate second division football team from Derry

Any body any opinions on this?

Yes. Go back one page.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on November 09, 2008, 11:46:33 PM
Just to put this nonsense from goh to bed that he's not a cross man....

i thought you boys were all proud of your roots?

Quote from: goh4205 on October 06, 2008, 04:51:00 PM
Pints  you can make whatever assumption you like, I am only saying what I saw and what I was told. to say that intent is striking is false and push could be interpreted as a strike, but is it.
The person who told me about this is an x Harps player and someone with a very honest view, this was also his view on what I said about Kelly been a yap and was always lying down.  So if thats his opinion as a Harps man, then what do most Cross & neutrals think.

Quote from: goh4205 on October 06, 2008, 10:06:22 AM
I was at the game, but i was to far away from the incident to see properly.  but what in will say is the Harps peno what charing offence & the goal they got was clearly a push in the back by the no.15. adding to that John McEntee was clearly pushed out over the line which lead to the goal & Tony McEntee has a nice shiner for his troubles after been hit off the ball. Also when did it become legal to allow a 4 man tackle?  I lost count the amount of times Harps were allowed to get away with this.  As for the Francie incident I was talking to a mate who was right behind the goals and seem what happened, the No.13 had been goading Francie for most of the 2nd half and he locked arms with Francie trying to get him to pull him down to get him booked & Francie just pushed him away & he fell.  So the point is cross don't get it all there own way when it comes to refs. regarding a re-fixture if i were Harps I keep wondering of the what if, because if there was to be a reply they would get shown up bigtime as has happened in replays before.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 10, 2008, 10:46:16 AM
I've heard this alot over the years and if anyone is to blame for that incident it is Benny.  I was at that game and the ball he gave him had several blue lights on it. The ball was there to challenge for and Francie been Francie he went for the ball.  If you even go back to the Down game this year in clones when Danny Hughes & him clashed going for the ball, I was sitting right infront of this and at no time did Bellew take his eyes of the ball which meant if the man was in the way, well tough shit.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 05, 2008, 10:22:26 AM
Your views are probably what alot of others are thinking, however they do have a few decent lads on their.  a good friend of mine asked a tryone panelists what sort of a clown that Ricey was & his reply was "every county has one"  meaning he's a complete w**ker on and off the pitch.  As for Gormley I think he is a brilliant player that doesn't need to do the things he does.  He should have walked against Mayo for persistant fouling & then belting Mortimer in the back of the net.  Cowardly way to do it, but thats just the it is.
I was at the Dromore/Crossmaglen match last year in the Ulster club match and Ricey was giving McConville shit, I guess about the book, and when John McEntee got his chance he gave him a belt and he never opened his mouth the rest of the game.  So point been they will bully you if they think they'll get away with it. 

Quote from: goh4205 on May 13, 2008, 04:09:30 PM
God I really wanna stop talking about this but basically you know yourself and its clear to everyone else that when you asked "why did your number 14 kick the ball into the net 3-4 times after scoring" you didn't raise it as a valid question, which was proven by the fact that you answered your own question. It was a childish attempt to take the piss, and hardly an issue thats worth being raised on a discussion board.

Doctor who???? Is this really the height of your humour? The craic must be ninety in your house of a saturday night. BC1 are you not ashamed to be posting alongside such an idiot?

Quote from: goh4205 on May 13, 2008, 04:09:30 PMThe fact that you have to insult me totally explains my point, I guess if someone from my club acted like that tool did then I'd be out fighting to defend him, then again i wouldn't.   BC1 is well able to speak for himself and doesn't need any jibes from you with the attempt to drag him into it, you Dromintee boys should know all about fighting among yourself.

before you imply about me been from Cross, can i inform you I'm not. I was there seeing the great new hope we have from Dromintee among our ranks & to be frank I wasn't impressed.  He was shit scared of an former county lion whom he didn't dare challenge not even once, which says a lot for our selection policy.  We have loads of fringe players like him already who are nothing more than average club players.

Quote from: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 10:45:26 PM
I thought that hanratty lad had super game from what i seen, he's a strong lad who could put it up to most midfielders in the county. infact the above mentioned who played yesterday were pretty quite it was the younger crop who made all the play, but it is probably insurance for the younger crop of players knowing that they have the lads above to fall back on.

Quote from: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 10:38:54 PM
That must have been what it was BC1, funny cross scored 2 goals and non of the 2 lads who scored acted like that, but as you say since they don't often score points against cross, apart from the occassion you mention never mind goals he probably thought he was doctor who :D :D :D

Quote from: goh4205 on May 11, 2008, 05:18:46 PM
I went to this game thinking it could through up a fairly interesting challenge considering both teams were very under strength, but truthfully the class really showed in the first 5mins.  When you consider cross have 8 first team players away with Armagh the way they took off from the start it was like a whirl wind and Dromintee didn't know were to turn.  The score line could have been more if not for a brilliant save by the Dromintee keeper in both half's.  Cross looked extremely sharp or maybe the Dromintee lads just were very unfit.
Even with the Armagh connection, Dromintee face a mountain come championship time considering what cross have to come back in also.

Quote from: goh4205 on April 25, 2008, 07:27:12 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on April 25, 2008, 06:40:14 PM
Health and safety reasons were stated by goh and others for the final being in cross. Why then, could somebody tell me were these so important rules allowed to slide for semi finals?

It's all to do with the expected crowd attending..  I know someone who knows the health & safety office who inspected the ground for the 2006 final when Dromintee kicked had reservations about home advantage and quite simply they were told that there was no other pitch in Armagh that could facilitate the expected crowd.  The options were Newry or Clones, which the county board wouldn't allow as it would have been seen as an embarrassment upon the county..

Quote from: goh4205 on March 24, 2008, 06:02:48 PM
I was at the 7's on Saturday and seen every game, apart from the Mullaghbawn/Ballymacnab game. I was right beside the Murtagh incident and to be fair he slammed the ball home from close range which the Clans keeper tried to dive at his feet, now weather Murtagh's boot caught him by accident or not I'm not sure, but there didn't seem to be any deliberate intention on Murtagh's behalf, there was a few words of verbal & the Clans keeper downed him. 

This all started in the first game when a clans player for no reason that i could see busted Tony Kernan of the ball, so I guess it was simmering from then.
The Ref was poor I have to admit, but he could have so easily sent off a few more, notably Marsden he was slapping McKeown anytime he got a chance & to be fair to McKeown he held his head & got on with it.  One thing I did notice though was that Marsden didn't happen to come back after Donal Murtagh had a go at him at a sideline ball & another when Donaldson clearly caught him with an upper cut, but I guess if it would have been anyone else he would having been looking to box, but for some reason he seemed to accept it from the 2 mentioned above (Perhaps he'd have been bitting off more than he could chew with any of these 2).

Barry O'Hagan is still a class player and should still be playing with Armagh.

Quote from: goh4205 on November 28, 2007, 05:01:16 AM
Firstly congratulation to Cross on a stunning performance on Sunday, from about 10 mins into the game they never looked like losing. As Milltown said they were the better team on the day in everyway, skill, determination & fitness.  I happened to be in Newry so I made my way to the ground pretty early and seen them come out for their warm up onto the back pitch and they were so precise even in that.   In all the drills they did during their warm up I counted only one ball drop. Beside me was a well known ex-Down county manager who commented that are as well drilled as any county team.  How do they get this continual focus  instilled into these lads when you consider that the age gaps between some of the players is quite a lot, is it the fact that the younger guys have so much respect for the likes of Oisin & the McEntees that they just do what is required or as they told.   BC maybe you could answer this.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 27, 2007, 03:53:29 PM
Lads,

you's can talk around the issue all day, but Winsamsoon is right, jealously is the only issue here. He's also right about the clans, they are the next most successful club in Armagh history, thats fact.

So for talk sake pints the bridge starting winning everything before them and the had a structure were they had 4/5 players coming through every year from minor etc.  after 4/5 years everybody would start hacking the shite out of you's and i bet you would like it.

Success breads contempt from other clubs, but you can't faulty cross for that

Quote from: goh4205 on August 26, 2007, 06:02:52 PM
I go to alot of armagh football, cause the louth football is shite basically.  Been to a few bridge games, but non of late, i must take one in soon so i can have a right pop at you then.
I would agree with you on your last post, but the difference most of the Dromintee boys didn't wanna know when it hotted up. I know the bridge & cross one's don't get on & maybe there is reasons for that which i don't know, but i find it staggering that so many negitives are posted about Cross when they are the most successful team ever in Armagh & probably Ireland and almost all of them posts are from within Armagh.  I think any county would be proud to have a club team as good as them.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 26, 2007, 05:25:06 PM
I was on the oppisite side to the stand and some of the verbals coming from the Dromintee supporters was just as bad.  The kernans for some reason seemed to come in for the most.

I thought the ref had a good game yesterday, he made his intentions clear fom the start that he wasn't gonna take any shit from anybody.  In saying that he did miss a few things,  the strike on Oisin in the first half, the strike on AK right in front of the lines man. The challenge from behind on SK which lead to him going off,  and the elbow on the cross no. 7 by AOR right at the end.  There was also a few rash challenge's by a few cross lads as well, which warrent a mention.
There was no way that Dromintee were able to live with the intensiity that Cross set, they seemed to keep pushing and moving at 100mph throughout the game.
Any body seem what happened in the first half when COR got his marching orders!

Quote from: goh4205 on August 21, 2007, 10:43:55 PM
Your a champ uladh, you probably never kicked a ball in your life, well at a competitive level anyway.  I would feel abit left out, but I'm not the only poster to notice wee jimmy's faults (which were plenty). if I was from cross I'd say it & be proud of it.

As for corn02 i wouldn't expect anything else from you, since your from Dromintee, but can you confirm that AOR told wee  jimmy to go f**k himself during the match, and when he called him back he said it again & followed it with (Don't annoy my f**k'in head) if that would have been anybody else from any other team it would have been a straight red, but it proves my point from an earlier post that wee Jimmy did have another motive, and was clear for all to see.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 19, 2007, 11:50:04 PM
Was at the Cross - Dromintee game and as a neutral I thought Jimmy McKee was a disgrace.  Marty O'Rourke should have got a straight red for his strike on the young corner back in the first half, but instead he give's marty's marker a yellow.

He also blew a cross half forward up i think for catching a clean kickout and then at the end he gives a fifty which never was & to top that of he  give Marty O'Rourke a free, when he should have blown for over carrying.

I hate picking out individuals, but Marty O'Rourke must be the biggest mouth in the country.  He was constinently at his marker trying to get him sent off and the dives he was getting away with was a joke.
If this is the best Ref in Armagh, he needs to look at himself in the mirror , it looked very clear to me that he was doing everything for Dromintee to snatch it.
If teams need the ref as well to beat cross then the standard outside cross must be pretty poor to say the least.

The most obvious quote to use is this one, when you lost the rag and admitted you were from cross...

Quote from: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 10:38:54 PM
A bit like the "Drive it home to them" that was liberally shouted when you beat us by 17 points that day a few years back.  You are right in one thing, it means fcuk all squared come championship, and I think Cross will know that better than most and not let a big win go to their heads.  I would reckon that only 3-4 of the Cross team from Sunday will pay championship against you anyway. 

As for the lad kicking it into the net after scoring the goal, jaysus give the lad a break, it's not everyday you score a goal against Cross, he must have been fierce proud of himself and overcome with emotion 

That must have been what it was BC1, funny cross scored 2 goals and non of the 2 lads who scored acted like that, but as you say since they don't often score points against cross, apart from the occassion you mention never mind goals he probably thought he was doctor who   

At this early stage in the season, how are things shaping out?  Does anyone look like making a serious concerted effort to break the Cross dominance?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 10, 2008, 09:14:48 AM
Quote from: goh4205 on November 08, 2008, 12:53:16 PM
Quote from: AFS on November 07, 2008, 07:13:53 PM
AOR and McGrane would be well worth keeping on. Not so sure about Enda or Francie, both seemed to show the effects of injuries/age last year with their pace particularly affected.

Just an idea but if Francie goes and AOR stays on, could he be shifted back to full back? Although he might lack a bit of pace, AOR is a very clever player who always seems to be in the right place at the right time. I just wouldn't be so sure about Donaghy at full back yet, I'd rather see him nail down a CB or HB spot for a year or two before he'd be shifted into FB as its such a crucial position.
surely McDonald wouldn't allow that" oh sorry, sure he doesn't pick the team AOR does", as he would most defiantly be exposed.  I think there should be a complete clean out, and this would include Francie, AOR, MOR, Enda.  The only one of the elder players that has something to offer is McGrane.  At least then McDonald would be in charge and not certain individual/'s


Ah ppor pet, did Aidan hit you a slap on the field or something?

GAA fairly made a tit out of you by the way.  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 10, 2008, 09:25:46 AM
TAM - im thinking in a general view of club football in armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on November 10, 2008, 09:33:34 AM
Quote from: The GAA on November 09, 2008, 11:46:33 PM
Just to put this nonsense from goh to bed that he's not a cross man....

i thought you boys were all proud of your roots?

Quote from: goh4205 on October 06, 2008, 04:51:00 PM
Pints  you can make whatever assumption you like, I am only saying what I saw and what I was told. to say that intent is striking is false and push could be interpreted as a strike, but is it.
The person who told me about this is an x Harps player and someone with a very honest view, this was also his view on what I said about Kelly been a yap and was always lying down.  So if thats his opinion as a Harps man, then what do most Cross & neutrals think.

Quote from: goh4205 on October 06, 2008, 10:06:22 AM
I was at the game, but i was to far away from the incident to see properly.  but what in will say is the Harps peno what charing offence & the goal they got was clearly a push in the back by the no.15. adding to that John McEntee was clearly pushed out over the line which lead to the goal & Tony McEntee has a nice shiner for his troubles after been hit off the ball. Also when did it become legal to allow a 4 man tackle?  I lost count the amount of times Harps were allowed to get away with this.  As for the Francie incident I was talking to a mate who was right behind the goals and seem what happened, the No.13 had been goading Francie for most of the 2nd half and he locked arms with Francie trying to get him to pull him down to get him booked & Francie just pushed him away & he fell.  So the point is cross don't get it all there own way when it comes to refs. regarding a re-fixture if i were Harps I keep wondering of the what if, because if there was to be a reply they would get shown up bigtime as has happened in replays before.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 10, 2008, 10:46:16 AM
I've heard this alot over the years and if anyone is to blame for that incident it is Benny.  I was at that game and the ball he gave him had several blue lights on it. The ball was there to challenge for and Francie been Francie he went for the ball.  If you even go back to the Down game this year in clones when Danny Hughes & him clashed going for the ball, I was sitting right infront of this and at no time did Bellew take his eyes of the ball which meant if the man was in the way, well tough shit.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 05, 2008, 10:22:26 AM
Your views are probably what alot of others are thinking, however they do have a few decent lads on their.  a good friend of mine asked a tryone panelists what sort of a clown that Ricey was & his reply was "every county has one"  meaning he's a complete w**ker on and off the pitch.  As for Gormley I think he is a brilliant player that doesn't need to do the things he does.  He should have walked against Mayo for persistant fouling & then belting Mortimer in the back of the net.  Cowardly way to do it, but thats just the it is.
I was at the Dromore/Crossmaglen match last year in the Ulster club match and Ricey was giving McConville shit, I guess about the book, and when John McEntee got his chance he gave him a belt and he never opened his mouth the rest of the game.  So point been they will bully you if they think they'll get away with it. 

Quote from: goh4205 on May 13, 2008, 04:09:30 PM
God I really wanna stop talking about this but basically you know yourself and its clear to everyone else that when you asked "why did your number 14 kick the ball into the net 3-4 times after scoring" you didn't raise it as a valid question, which was proven by the fact that you answered your own question. It was a childish attempt to take the piss, and hardly an issue thats worth being raised on a discussion board.

Doctor who???? Is this really the height of your humour? The craic must be ninety in your house of a saturday night. BC1 are you not ashamed to be posting alongside such an idiot?

Quote from: goh4205 on May 13, 2008, 04:09:30 PMThe fact that you have to insult me totally explains my point, I guess if someone from my club acted like that tool did then I'd be out fighting to defend him, then again i wouldn't.   BC1 is well able to speak for himself and doesn't need any jibes from you with the attempt to drag him into it, you Dromintee boys should know all about fighting among yourself.

before you imply about me been from Cross, can i inform you I'm not. I was there seeing the great new hope we have from Dromintee among our ranks & to be frank I wasn't impressed.  He was shit scared of an former county lion whom he didn't dare challenge not even once, which says a lot for our selection policy.  We have loads of fringe players like him already who are nothing more than average club players.

Quote from: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 10:45:26 PM
I thought that hanratty lad had super game from what i seen, he's a strong lad who could put it up to most midfielders in the county. infact the above mentioned who played yesterday were pretty quite it was the younger crop who made all the play, but it is probably insurance for the younger crop of players knowing that they have the lads above to fall back on.

Quote from: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 10:38:54 PM
That must have been what it was BC1, funny cross scored 2 goals and non of the 2 lads who scored acted like that, but as you say since they don't often score points against cross, apart from the occassion you mention never mind goals he probably thought he was doctor who :D :D :D

Quote from: goh4205 on May 11, 2008, 05:18:46 PM
I went to this game thinking it could through up a fairly interesting challenge considering both teams were very under strength, but truthfully the class really showed in the first 5mins.  When you consider cross have 8 first team players away with Armagh the way they took off from the start it was like a whirl wind and Dromintee didn't know were to turn.  The score line could have been more if not for a brilliant save by the Dromintee keeper in both half's.  Cross looked extremely sharp or maybe the Dromintee lads just were very unfit.
Even with the Armagh connection, Dromintee face a mountain come championship time considering what cross have to come back in also.

Quote from: goh4205 on April 25, 2008, 07:27:12 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on April 25, 2008, 06:40:14 PM
Health and safety reasons were stated by goh and others for the final being in cross. Why then, could somebody tell me were these so important rules allowed to slide for semi finals?

It's all to do with the expected crowd attending..  I know someone who knows the health & safety office who inspected the ground for the 2006 final when Dromintee kicked had reservations about home advantage and quite simply they were told that there was no other pitch in Armagh that could facilitate the expected crowd.  The options were Newry or Clones, which the county board wouldn't allow as it would have been seen as an embarrassment upon the county..

Quote from: goh4205 on March 24, 2008, 06:02:48 PM
I was at the 7's on Saturday and seen every game, apart from the Mullaghbawn/Ballymacnab game. I was right beside the Murtagh incident and to be fair he slammed the ball home from close range which the Clans keeper tried to dive at his feet, now weather Murtagh's boot caught him by accident or not I'm not sure, but there didn't seem to be any deliberate intention on Murtagh's behalf, there was a few words of verbal & the Clans keeper downed him. 

This all started in the first game when a clans player for no reason that i could see busted Tony Kernan of the ball, so I guess it was simmering from then.
The Ref was poor I have to admit, but he could have so easily sent off a few more, notably Marsden he was slapping McKeown anytime he got a chance & to be fair to McKeown he held his head & got on with it.  One thing I did notice though was that Marsden didn't happen to come back after Donal Murtagh had a go at him at a sideline ball & another when Donaldson clearly caught him with an upper cut, but I guess if it would have been anyone else he would having been looking to box, but for some reason he seemed to accept it from the 2 mentioned above (Perhaps he'd have been bitting off more than he could chew with any of these 2).

Barry O'Hagan is still a class player and should still be playing with Armagh.

Quote from: goh4205 on November 28, 2007, 05:01:16 AM
Firstly congratulation to Cross on a stunning performance on Sunday, from about 10 mins into the game they never looked like losing. As Milltown said they were the better team on the day in everyway, skill, determination & fitness.  I happened to be in Newry so I made my way to the ground pretty early and seen them come out for their warm up onto the back pitch and they were so precise even in that.   In all the drills they did during their warm up I counted only one ball drop. Beside me was a well known ex-Down county manager who commented that are as well drilled as any county team.  How do they get this continual focus  instilled into these lads when you consider that the age gaps between some of the players is quite a lot, is it the fact that the younger guys have so much respect for the likes of Oisin & the McEntees that they just do what is required or as they told.   BC maybe you could answer this.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 27, 2007, 03:53:29 PM
Lads,

you's can talk around the issue all day, but Winsamsoon is right, jealously is the only issue here. He's also right about the clans, they are the next most successful club in Armagh history, thats fact.

So for talk sake pints the bridge starting winning everything before them and the had a structure were they had 4/5 players coming through every year from minor etc.  after 4/5 years everybody would start hacking the shite out of you's and i bet you would like it.

Success breads contempt from other clubs, but you can't faulty cross for that

Quote from: goh4205 on August 26, 2007, 06:02:52 PM
I go to alot of armagh football, cause the louth football is shite basically.  Been to a few bridge games, but non of late, i must take one in soon so i can have a right pop at you then.
I would agree with you on your last post, but the difference most of the Dromintee boys didn't wanna know when it hotted up. I know the bridge & cross one's don't get on & maybe there is reasons for that which i don't know, but i find it staggering that so many negitives are posted about Cross when they are the most successful team ever in Armagh & probably Ireland and almost all of them posts are from within Armagh.  I think any county would be proud to have a club team as good as them.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 26, 2007, 05:25:06 PM
I was on the oppisite side to the stand and some of the verbals coming from the Dromintee supporters was just as bad.  The kernans for some reason seemed to come in for the most.

I thought the ref had a good game yesterday, he made his intentions clear fom the start that he wasn't gonna take any shit from anybody.  In saying that he did miss a few things,  the strike on Oisin in the first half, the strike on AK right in front of the lines man. The challenge from behind on SK which lead to him going off,  and the elbow on the cross no. 7 by AOR right at the end.  There was also a few rash challenge's by a few cross lads as well, which warrent a mention.
There was no way that Dromintee were able to live with the intensiity that Cross set, they seemed to keep pushing and moving at 100mph throughout the game.
Any body seem what happened in the first half when COR got his marching orders!

Quote from: goh4205 on August 21, 2007, 10:43:55 PM
Your a champ uladh, you probably never kicked a ball in your life, well at a competitive level anyway.  I would feel abit left out, but I'm not the only poster to notice wee jimmy's faults (which were plenty). if I was from cross I'd say it & be proud of it.

As for corn02 i wouldn't expect anything else from you, since your from Dromintee, but can you confirm that AOR told wee  jimmy to go f**k himself during the match, and when he called him back he said it again & followed it with (Don't annoy my f**k'in head) if that would have been anybody else from any other team it would have been a straight red, but it proves my point from an earlier post that wee Jimmy did have another motive, and was clear for all to see.

Quote from: goh4205 on August 19, 2007, 11:50:04 PM
Was at the Cross - Dromintee game and as a neutral I thought Jimmy McKee was a disgrace.  Marty O'Rourke should have got a straight red for his strike on the young corner back in the first half, but instead he give's marty's marker a yellow.

He also blew a cross half forward up i think for catching a clean kickout and then at the end he gives a fifty which never was & to top that of he  give Marty O'Rourke a free, when he should have blown for over carrying.

I hate picking out individuals, but Marty O'Rourke must be the biggest mouth in the country.  He was constinently at his marker trying to get him sent off and the dives he was getting away with was a joke.
If this is the best Ref in Armagh, he needs to look at himself in the mirror , it looked very clear to me that he was doing everything for Dromintee to snatch it.
If teams need the ref as well to beat cross then the standard outside cross must be pretty poor to say the least.

The most obvious quote to use is this one, when you lost the rag and admitted you were from cross...

Quote from: goh4205 on May 12, 2008, 10:38:54 PM
A bit like the "Drive it home to them" that was liberally shouted when you beat us by 17 points that day a few years back.  You are right in one thing, it means fcuk all squared come championship, and I think Cross will know that better than most and not let a big win go to their heads.  I would reckon that only 3-4 of the Cross team from Sunday will pay championship against you anyway. 

As for the lad kicking it into the net after scoring the goal, jaysus give the lad a break, it's not everyday you score a goal against Cross, he must have been fierce proud of himself and overcome with emotion 

That must have been what it was BC1, funny cross scored 2 goals and non of the 2 lads who scored acted like that, but as you say since they don't often score points against cross, apart from the occassion you mention never mind goals he probably thought he was doctor who   

At this early stage in the season, how are things shaping out?  Does anyone look like making a serious concerted effort to break the Cross dominance?

f**k your a sad kid alrite, since you've taken the time to go through everything, what have i said which would be concluded as negitive toward Armagh. As for my post on mostly Cross games, I don't really bother writing about other teams as they aren't worth commenting on to be truthful. i think i recall quite a few negative posts from you, about you recently, but i won't even bother going through to find them, I'd be at your level them, which isn't that high.
As for you corn, comments regarding AOR giving me a belt, no he didn't.  I've nothing against Aidan and was a great player, but at inter county level he hasn't the pace anymore, infact he was the best player ever i seen to mark Dooher and always got the better of him in my opinion. It seems here that when you comment on a player, it's taken as a personal attack by his fellow club mates.  Don't worry TheGAA, I won't be commenting on any of yours? :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 10, 2008, 11:05:59 AM
GOh i made the point about O' Rourke and his lack of pace last year and in the end the point was proven against wexford. When he was badly exposed for his pace (not the only one i may add)

A clear out is required for the county team to progress, The time has come to bring in the younger lads. Believe it or not Armagh would actually be a very young side but you would have the likes of Clarke, Mallon Mc Donnell and others that although still young enough have bags of experience. Peters job now is to find that happy medium and no disrespect to Martin but the game now is too fast for him at intercounty level IMHO.

Umgool, In response to your question about the cullyhanna result i think the answer is pretty obvious it simply means the rest of the clubs in Armagh are of a pretty average standard. If you compare the other clubs in Armagh to say Derry and Tyrone then the gap is significantly wide. If not for Cross we would probably be at the same grade as Monaghan or Cavan (modern day) ie where we could hold our own against other average teams but never really challenge for the big honours.Most Derry and Tyrone teams would beat Armagh teams in competitive competition with the exeptions of Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 10, 2008, 11:18:20 AM
It's simple - play with one withdrawn half-back instead of two.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 10, 2008, 11:21:37 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 10, 2008, 11:05:59 AM
Peters job now is to find that happy medium and no disrespect to Martin but the game now is too fast for him at intercounty level IMHO.


Martin O'Rourke??
Do you mean someone else, IMHO he is still well fit for county football
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on November 10, 2008, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: corn02 on November 10, 2008, 11:18:20 AM
It's simple - play with one withdrawn half-back instead of two.
Corn, thats the way it was this year, you had AK and C McKeever trying to get forward and then get back to cover for Aidan and as mentioned above thats what exposed armagh against a fast team.  It's ok to play that type of system in NL, but championship football has moved on i'm afraid.
I agree with fullback on MOR, he's a real battler and wins loads of breaking ball more than any other current forward they have. "hope that didn't sound to negative"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 10, 2008, 11:46:25 AM
Quote from: goh4205 on November 10, 2008, 11:38:03 AM
Quote from: corn02 on November 10, 2008, 11:18:20 AM
It's simple - play with one withdrawn half-back instead of two.
Corn, thats the way it was this year, you had AK and C McKeever trying to get forward and then get back to cover for Aidan and as mentioned above thats what exposed armagh against a fast team.  It's ok to play that type of system in NL, but championship football has moved on i'm afraid.
I agree with fullback on MOR, he's a real battler and wins loads of breaking ball more than any other current forward they have. "hope that didn't sound to negative"

No it wasn't. Vernon and MOR both played withdrawn roles. AOR wasn't caught for pace at all this year, I don't know were that is coming from, please give examples. McKeever hardly crossed the halfway line after the Cavan match.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on November 10, 2008, 11:58:27 AM

i'll have to stick up for my clubmen here... someone should name one example against wexford when aor was caught for pace - just one. mor is vital to armagh and anyone who thinks either o'rourke lacks pace doesn't know them at all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 10, 2008, 12:10:02 PM
I would have a problem with the role AOR has moreso than the player himself, although he is getting no younger or faster.  I recall saying early last spring that AOR's role in the team was a luxury, that would be exposed by better teams - ultimately it wasn't exposed by a better team, but by our own sh1t tactics.  I would like to see  a move towards a more positive type of football, and I dont think we can do that by playing AOR in the same role as this year.

I hope some of the older players move on, but the utterings of Enda McNulty in the papers and the lure of playing Tyrone would suggest otherwise. McGrane should still be good for a contribution, I thought this year's County championship exposed Bellew badly.  Time to bite the bullet and rebuild properly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 10, 2008, 12:13:21 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 10, 2008, 12:10:02 PM
I would have a problem with the role AOR has moreso than the player himself, although he is getting no younger or faster.  I recall saying early last spring that AOR's role in the team was a luxury, that would be exposed by better teams - ultimately it wasn't exposed by a better team, but by our own sh1t tactics.  I would like to see  a move towards a more positive type of football, and I dont think we can do that by playing AOR in the same role as this year.

I hope some of the older players move on, but the utterings of Enda McNulty in the papers and the lure of playing Tyrone would suggest otherwise. McGrane should still be good for a contribution, I thought this year's County championship exposed Bellew badly.  Time to bite the bullet and rebuild properly.

See rational, evidence-based reasoning. I agree re: playing Aidan in that role but I think he should be deployed as a orthodox CHB, Geezer was never the quickest either. I would also swap Vernon and AK and keep MOR withdrawn. Therefore your defnce and midfeild are protected and you play with five forwards instead of four.

The same team will be around next year and very few will be gone. League will have added signifance this year - romotion is a must.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 10, 2008, 02:14:01 PM
There was a major difference in Geezer and Aidan O'Rourke. Geezer was put there for his stopping ability. His hard hitting and his tackling, so as anyone coming down the middle at the Armagh team knew what they would be getting. Aidan O'Rourke wouldn't be the physical enough to do this job.Therefore the obvious centre half back is Mc Keever. Aidan O' Rourke is there to start the attacks from deep and his main strength is his distribution of the ball. He could pick a man out with a pin point (something Mc Geeney struggled with). Some of you lads are asking for examples of when he got caught for pace. When we say he was caught for pace we don't mean that someone out ran him. But if you look at the two Fermangh games and to a lesser extent the Wexford game. Where you had smaller nippier forwards that were able to bypass the likes of O'Rourke and he was exposed. He has been a great servant but he should now move over as should enda and let the younger lads come through.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 10, 2008, 02:15:43 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 10, 2008, 02:14:01 PM
There was a major difference in Geezer and Martin O'Rourke. Geezer was put there for his stopping ability. His hard hitting and his tackling, so as anyone coming down the middle at the Armagh team knew what they would be getting. Martin O'Rourke wouldn't be the physical enough to do this job.Therefore the obvious centre half back is Mc Keever. Martin O' Rourke is there to start the attacks from deep and his main strength is his distribution of the ball. He could pick a man out with a pin point (something Mc Geeney struggled with). Some of you lads are asking for examples of when he got caught for pace. When we say he was caught for pace we don't mean that someone out ran him. But if you look at the two Fermangh games and to a lesser extent the Wexford game. Where you had smaller nippier forwards that were able to bypass the likes of O'Rourke and he was exposed. He has been a great servant but he should now move over as should enda and let the younger lads come through.

Why are we talking about Martin O 'Rourke ???
Do you know the CHB wasnt Martin winsam?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on November 10, 2008, 02:38:34 PM
IMO Ger Reid's the ideal candidate to shore up the Armagh defence.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on November 10, 2008, 02:40:32 PM
Quote from: full back on November 10, 2008, 02:15:43 PM
Some of you lads are asking for examples of when he got caught for pace. When we say he was caught for pace we don't mean that someone out ran him. But if you look at the two Fermangh games and to a lesser extent the Wexford game. Where you had smaller nippier forwards that were able to bypass the likes of O'Rourke and he was exposed.

i'm not sure i follow... what does that mean in practical terms?

do you mean he "missed tackles" in these games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 10, 2008, 02:41:44 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 10, 2008, 02:14:01 PM
There was a major difference in Geezer and Martin O'Rourke. Geezer was put there for his stopping ability. His hard hitting and his tackling, so as anyone coming down the middle at the Armagh team knew what they would be getting. Martin O'Rourke wouldn't be the physical enough to do this job.Therefore the obvious centre half back is Mc Keever. Martin O' Rourke is there to start the attacks from deep and his main strength is his distribution of the ball. He could pick a man out with a pin point (something Mc Geeney struggled with). Some of you lads are asking for examples of when he got caught for pace. When we say he was caught for pace we don't mean that someone out ran him. But if you look at the two Fermangh games and to a lesser extent the Wexford game. Where you had smaller nippier forwards that were able to bypass the likes of O'Rourke and he was exposed. He has been a great servant but he should now move over as should enda and let the younger lads come through.

Believ me physical abilty is not a problem for Aidan. Probably one of the strongest on the team. Disagree, when your faced with waves of attacks you can only do so much. Every defender struggled that day. The turning point came froma long ball, not a forward runner.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on November 10, 2008, 03:06:30 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on November 09, 2008, 11:31:08 PM
Was not at any of the games today but the third most consistent SENIOR team in armagh this year (Cullyhanna) is beat by an intermediate second division football team from Derry

Any body any opinions on this?

Greenlough are a Third division team in Derry and actually finished in the bottom half of the table.

Second year in a row this has happened, Last year the Derry intermediate champions were from Division 3 and actually spent nearly the whole year down at the bottom of the division but stayed up after winning last few games, and they hammered the Armagh intermediate champions in first round of ulster who were in Div 1 Armagh at the time although they were relegated at end of year. It was Wolf tones or whitecross, I can never remember which.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 10, 2008, 03:33:50 PM
It is Aidan i am talking about full back i am half a sleep today. Still haven't got over the tiredness of the Calzaghe fight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 10, 2008, 03:59:50 PM
Whilst i acknowledge Corn that he wasn't the only one on the day that was badly exposed (and i already stated that) . I also acknowledge that it is difficult to defend when you have wave after wave of half backs attacking you. But lads lets face it the lad isn't getting any younger. The Dromintee lads seem to be taking this as a criticism of Aidan and you couldn't be any further from the truth. He's been a great servant but the legs to play at this level simply aren't there anymore.

In Practical terms Aghdavoyle it simply means that he hasn't got the pace to mark a smaller younger player at intercounty level. Sure he still could float the odd pass up field and maybe even venture up and get the odd score but Armagh are not the kind of team that can afford to carry passengers. Armagh need six defenders that are capable of defending be it fast or slow men. For too long the Armagh defense has been exposed because of the overall lack of pace. the time now has come for the older servants to make way ie Bellew, O'Rourke and  Mc Nulty. They simply don't have the legs anymore to cope with the modern forward. Sure enough Armagh won an Ulster this year but all in all Ulster was pretty poor in comparison to the previous 6 or 7 years. Armagh beat a bad Down Team and struggled to beat a bad Fermanagh team. They were eventually beaten by a bad Fermanagh team. These teams haven't a hope in hell in winning an all Ireland. So i guess in practical terms in means that if Armagh have any All Ireland aspirations then the older guys must make way for a new group of players.

Tyrone had to do it after Peter Canavan hung the boots up . Tyrone went into a period of Transition but it wasn't anything major or overly noticeable. They where still winning the odd national league . As a result they came back stronger than ever and won an All Ireland. This won't be the case in Armagh because we will have lads hanging in there preventing the younger lads coming through and only hampering future prospects. This will only do harm in the long run. Mc Donnell should now be given the time and proper chance to rebuild the Armagh team not from scratch but using guys like Clarke, Mallon, Mc Donnell and mc keever to led a new team onto the future. A clean break now will only reap rewards sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 10, 2008, 04:14:38 PM
Not taking it as anti-Dromintee Win and you raise valid points. Maybe I have blue-tinted specs on, but I thought Aidan was one of our better players last year and I think he is well capable of another good Championship - his league form will be interesting.

His pace is akin to Geezers - both great readers of the game - pace not essential. For me, Aidan had a specific role this year and done it very well. Tactics may have made him look weak, but I didn't see that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on November 10, 2008, 04:19:27 PM
Winsamsoon, is that Armagh or the Clans you are talking about there?   :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 10, 2008, 05:44:12 PM
Donagh The clans are about another 10 steps behind Armagh again  :D :D :D There aren't enough pages to write about the clans. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 10, 2008, 06:01:54 PM
It is very early for predictions etc, but things are quiet so we may as well keep it going.

Basically I think people are too quick to state "it is time for the old boys to retire" and speak of rebuilding. McGrane was one of our best performers this year and, in my view, AOR was also. Bellew was doing well until one, unusual, mistake got the axes out from sone.

This season will be similar, those waiting in the wings are not as good as the old heads. Whats the options? A clear-out and give these boys Championship experience, or pursue with the older, better players and see what happens. Personally, experience is not an attribute and talent is so option two would be my pick.

Of course that is a very general, sweeping statement to say that the older players are better than the new blood. Toner was obviosuly a find this season and Donaghy was impressive when introduced. O'Rourke jnr and Tony Kernan should also be battling hard for a starting slot while the midfield emergence of Lavery, McKenna and ONeill will be interesting. Finn Mo nailed down a slot thanks to the league, most of these will get a chance and it all depends on who performs.

People are making out we were poor last year - we weren't. The usual mixed league campaign was followed by two easy wins, a collaps, a recovery and then Wexford. Armagh were grinding out the result against a half-decent Wexford side as they have done this last nine years. As with Monaghan 03, Fermanagh 04, Donegal and Derry 07 and Wexford, they got caught out. If Francie deals with the ball, we are in the semi-final.

Tactics have also come under a lot of fire. They were nearly spot on for me. As I have stated, the only thing wrong was deploying two defencsive half-backs (MOR and Vernon) was wrong, only one was needed - MOR. I would like to see Vernon and AK swapped. It would give us a better defensive and offensive impetus.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on November 10, 2008, 06:12:53 PM
Quote from: corn02 on November 10, 2008, 04:14:38 PM
Not taking it as anti-Dromintee Win and you raise valid points. Maybe I have blue-tinted specs on, but I thought Aidan was one of our better players last year and I think he is well capable of another good Championship - his league form will be interesting.

His pace is akin to Geezers - both great readers of the game - pace not essential. For me, Aidan had a specific role this year and done it very well. Tactics may have made him look weak, but I didn't see that.
Corn, that's the very point, the tactics were setup for Aidan to play that role & it still didn't work. like winsam said, it's not a personal attack on a great player & a good fella as well, but just stating points which may make the armagh side more adapable to play faster teams.  as i said before it's ok for NL, but not for championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 10, 2008, 06:16:34 PM
Fair enough GOH, point taken and a certain degree of truth in there, but I don't know if we can say they were set up to suit Aidan. The reading of the game and passing is obviosuly two of his sstrongest attributes and McDonnell tried to create space for him to do that - which he done very well. If we go 6-2-6 we will go backwards in my eyes. We don't have six shooters and the blanket defence has been our trademark for years. For me, tweaks needed, no major overhaul.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 11, 2008, 10:11:16 AM
Lads what do you make of this North Armagh cup thingie...where the townies play the culchies. I know it's for charity so it shouldn't be dismissed but would you like something similar for you're area (this wouldn't work in south armagh as they are all culchies ;)) but i'm sure with not much to do this time of year unless your Cross it would be a bit of craic. The teams are in todays Irish News although i'm not sure why the Ballyhegan lads are in as they moved to Mid Armagh a few years ago...


P.S. i think Winsam and Fullback are going to be good friends... :P oh and Corn too... :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 11, 2008, 02:05:48 PM
easy you!!!!!

We have always been good mates it was just club loyalities that got in the way ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 11, 2008, 02:08:12 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 11, 2008, 10:11:16 AM
Lads what do you make of this North Armagh cup thingie...where the townies play the culchies. I know it's for charity so it shouldn't be dismissed but would you like something similar for you're area (this wouldn't work in south armagh as they are all culchies ;)) but i'm sure with not much to do this time of year unless your Cross it would be a bit of craic. The teams are in todays Irish News although i'm not sure why the Ballyhegan lads are in as they moved to Mid Armagh a few years ago...


P.S. i think Winsam and Fullback are going to be good friends... :P oh and Corn too... :D

have to say I think its a cracker idea...though i think the country team will win as they will probably have more county players to chose from. Only downside is that the lurgan mail/portadown times are organising it, which is surprising considering the pitiful amount of gaa coverage the mail usually gives. also i suspect its a bit of a PR stunt but since it's for charity I wont go down that avenue (yet).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 11, 2008, 02:12:07 PM
Good man win... ;D

i think it's a good idea also but i have to agree with you on the Lurgan liar and Portydown spoof, WTF would they know about and that Eugene Creaney one picking the players. If you read his articles you'd know he hasn't a clue but i suppose for charity we'll keep quiet this time...I'm raging he didn't pick me >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 11, 2008, 02:17:08 PM
Gene Creaney and his fantasy GAA... ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nrico2006 on November 11, 2008, 05:02:32 PM
Just wondering if the clubs around Lurgan all have reserve sides and if so which would be most flexible with regards to training as I have a few other commitments.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 11, 2008, 05:17:07 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 11, 2008, 05:02:32 PM
Just wondering if the clubs around Lurgan all have reserve sides and if so which would be most flexible with regards to training as I have a few other commitments.

Thanks.

clans have a "B Team" and they have never trained in their lives...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on November 12, 2008, 08:58:46 AM
i gave up on that site long before the stevie mcdonell thread happened. nothing but kids who think everyone who puts on the orange jersey is a "legend" and shouldnt be criticised at all. fcuk that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: under the bar on November 12, 2008, 09:27:16 AM
With a bit of luck the bandwagonners who jumped onto the ship from 1999-2006 will jump off again and leave the discussion to the real fans.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on November 12, 2008, 09:34:50 AM
Quote from: illdecide on November 11, 2008, 05:17:07 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 11, 2008, 05:02:32 PM
Just wondering if the clubs around Lurgan all have reserve sides and if so which would be most flexible with regards to training as I have a few other commitments.

Thanks.

clans have a "B Team" and they have never trained in their lives...

its hard enough to get 15 for a game never mind do any training. you managing next year illdecide?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 12, 2008, 09:36:17 AM
Queens are playing DCU in the Athletic Grounds tonight @ 7.30pm. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 12, 2008, 10:34:29 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on November 12, 2008, 09:34:50 AM
Quote from: illdecide on November 11, 2008, 05:17:07 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on November 11, 2008, 05:02:32 PM
Just wondering if the clubs around Lurgan all have reserve sides and if so which would be most flexible with regards to training as I have a few other commitments.

Thanks.

clans have a "B Team" and they have never trained in their lives...

its hard enough to get 15 for a game never mind do any training. you managing next year illdecide?

Lucky for you lot "No"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on November 12, 2008, 12:34:21 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 11, 2008, 10:11:16 AM
Lads what do you make of this North Armagh cup thingie...where the townies play the culchies. I know it's for charity so it shouldn't be dismissed but would you like something similar for you're area (this wouldn't work in south armagh as they are all culchies ;)) but i'm sure with not much to do this time of year unless your Cross it would be a bit of craic. The teams are in todays Irish News although i'm not sure why the Ballyhegan lads are in as they moved to Mid Armagh a few years ago...

Should be a regular thing as it was in the 40s/50s and with local bragging rights at stake, should be good craic.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 12, 2008, 12:41:37 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 12, 2008, 09:36:17 AM
Queens are playing DCU in the Athletic Grounds tonight @ 7.30pm. 

Might be worth a run up to.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on November 12, 2008, 12:43:17 PM
You going to go CORN?  heading myself, looks makings of a good game and give me a chance to see the Athletic Grounds under lights.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on November 12, 2008, 01:03:10 PM
Quote from: Donagh on November 12, 2008, 12:34:21 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 11, 2008, 10:11:16 AM
Lads what do you make of this North Armagh cup thingie...where the townies play the culchies. I know it's for charity so it shouldn't be dismissed but would you like something similar for you're area (this wouldn't work in south armagh as they are all culchies ;)) but i'm sure with not much to do this time of year unless your Cross it would be a bit of craic. The teams are in todays Irish News although i'm not sure why the Ballyhegan lads are in as they moved to Mid Armagh a few years ago...

Should be a regular thing as it was in the 40s/50s and with local bragging rights at stake, should be good craic.

when and where is it supposed to be happening?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 12, 2008, 01:20:12 PM
Possibly la, might sit and watch the Pool though. I'll give you a text later.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 12, 2008, 02:58:07 PM
Is that the quarter finals of the Ryan Cup? Had a text there from someone who thought it was in Newry. Will probably take a spin to it anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 12, 2008, 02:58:47 PM
Yeah has to be last eight, or possibly last four? They played in Newry last year at this stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on November 13, 2008, 08:48:57 AM
Dcu and queens freshers played earlier in the day up in Belfast and cut the complete dung out of each other, think there were a few had to go to hospital!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 13, 2008, 09:06:22 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on November 13, 2008, 08:48:57 AM
Dcu and queens freshers played earlier in the day up in Belfast and cut the complete dung out of each other, think there were a few had to go to hospital!

Any more info?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on November 13, 2008, 03:33:58 PM
Anyone know the Division 1- Division 4 tables for next year. I didnt follow the football much at the end of the year. Who went up and down from each division?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 13, 2008, 04:22:04 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on November 13, 2008, 03:33:58 PM
Anyone know the Division 1- Division 4 tables for next year. I didnt follow the football much at the end of the year. Who went up and down from each division?

Taken from orchardcounty.com

2009 ARMAGH ALL-COUNTY LEAGUE LINE-UP (in alphabetical order)

ACL – Division One
Carrickcruppen
Clan na Gael
Crossmaglen
Culloville
Dromintee
Killeavey
Mullaghbawn
Pearse Og
St Patrick's
Sarsfields

ACL – Division Two
Ballyhegan
Ballymacnab
Clann Eireann
Granemore
Harps
Madden
Maghery
St Michael's
Silverbridge
Tir na nÓg
Whitecross
Wolfe Tone

ACL – Division Three
Annaghmore
An Port Mor
Belleek
Clonmore
Collegeland
Keady
Lissummon
Middletown
St Paul's
St Peter's
Shane O'Neill's
Tullysaran

ACL – Division Four
Clady
Corrinshego
Crossmaglen II
Derrynoose
Dorsey Emmett's
Eire Og
Forkhill
Grange
Mullaghbrack
O'Hanlon's
Phelim Brady's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 13, 2008, 04:23:55 PM
Hopefully nobody witnessed that incredibly stupid statement I deleted there.  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 13, 2008, 04:28:24 PM
Quote from: corn02 on November 13, 2008, 04:23:55 PM
Hopefully nobody witnessed that incredibly stupid statement I deleted there.  :D

Did you think that list above was my predictions?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 13, 2008, 04:35:00 PM
There's going to be some digging matches in Div 2 this year, 8 Mid Armagh 'derbies'. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 13, 2008, 04:43:56 PM
 Benny are Ballyhegan not mid Armagh now aswell?? Making it 10 slugging sessions
ACL – Division Two
Ballyhegan
Ballymacnab
Clann Eireann
Granemore
Harps
Madden
Maghery
St Michael's
Silverbridge
Tir na nÓg
Whitecross
Wolfe Tone
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 13, 2008, 05:02:35 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 13, 2008, 04:28:24 PM
Quote from: corn02 on November 13, 2008, 04:23:55 PM
Hopefully nobody witnessed that incredibly stupid statement I deleted there.  :D

Did you think that list above was my predictions?!

Close, last year's results. I was saying hoe the f**k did Dromintee finish fifth?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 13, 2008, 05:13:11 PM
I'd take them positions for next year :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 13, 2008, 07:39:07 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 13, 2008, 04:35:00 PM
There's going to be some digging matches in Div 2 this year, 8 Mid Armagh 'derbies'. 
A lot of travelling for some of us too!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 14, 2008, 10:02:15 AM
Good luck to Clan na Gael minors tonight against Granemore in the minor league final in the Athletic Grounds...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on November 14, 2008, 10:08:03 AM
you going to it chief? i was thinking of heading up myself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 14, 2008, 10:31:48 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 13, 2008, 04:43:56 PM
Benny are Ballyhegan not mid Armagh now aswell?? Making it 10 slugging sessions
ACL – Division Two
Ballyhegan
Ballymacnab
Clann Eireann
Granemore
Harps
Madden
Maghery
St Michael's
Silverbridge
Tir na nÓg
Whitecross
Wolfe Tone

I was counting them Win, we cant pay ourselves twice ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 14, 2008, 12:42:56 PM
 :D :D :D

hung out by the roots Win ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 14, 2008, 02:47:54 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 14, 2008, 02:01:41 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 13, 2008, 04:35:00 PM
There's going to be some digging matches in Div 2 this year, 8 Mid Armagh 'derbies'. 

Technically whether you were counting them or not there are still 10 mid Armagh derby games. ;)

I'lldecide you keep your face under raps son ;)


Saann i think your maths is out, or mine is.  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 14, 2008, 03:25:22 PM
I'm just trying to dig out of a hole lad. Corn i see you are learning lurgan slang  ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 14, 2008, 03:26:48 PM
It's out of here. maths was never my strong point.  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 14, 2008, 03:41:19 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 14, 2008, 03:26:48 PM
It's out of here. maths was never my strong point.  ;D

I'll be wearing a Clans jersey soon saaan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 14, 2008, 04:41:40 PM
If you two want a date just come out and say so... :D

corn don't forget you're bottle of the finest tonic...lol

It better not rain tonight as i'm going to watch the minors in armagh...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 16, 2008, 04:03:03 PM
Well done to the Clans minors, winning the inaugural ACMFL
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 16, 2008, 07:29:58 PM
Correct fitzs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 16, 2008, 07:49:59 PM
And the Cross seniors. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 17, 2008, 10:43:30 AM
correct crossfire  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on November 17, 2008, 10:49:42 AM
just have to say congrats to the clans minors for a fine display on Friday night. they started a bit wobbly and went 5-0 down pretty quickly but gathered themselves up and in the end finished quite comfortable.

also a word of congratulations to cross on reaching the ulster club final. hopefully their run of success in finals continues against ballinderry
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 17, 2008, 11:05:25 AM
Well done clans minors played well and deserved to win it, well done Cross too but raging i missed it as some fool on the board told me it was on at 4:00 (Deferred coverage) so i decided to watch the Celtic match and thought I'd tune in to watch the Cross game afterwards but yes it was over so was ripping... :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on November 17, 2008, 11:52:49 AM
Congrats to Cross - there is just no stopping u boys!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on November 17, 2008, 04:59:18 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on November 17, 2008, 11:52:49 AM
Congrats to Cross - there is just no stopping u boys!

Ask the Keady U-16's!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on November 18, 2008, 08:51:02 AM
Anyone know were you find a full list of results from last years ACL Div 1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 18, 2008, 11:41:57 AM
Maybe TAM can help me out, but are the Cullyhanna management team stepping down?
Heard a name mentioned last night about a new manager for St Pats
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on November 18, 2008, 12:06:53 PM
Does anyone know where you could see the McCrory Cup tables at?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 18, 2008, 01:38:10 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on November 18, 2008, 12:06:53 PM
Does anyone know where you could see the McCrory Cup tables at?

Tables available here Billy - http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=9150.30

Will have a look into that one full_back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Red Hurley on November 18, 2008, 03:57:11 PM
Any word of an appointment to the Armagh Hurling job or who the possible candidates are ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on November 18, 2008, 11:38:23 PM
yes steven,conor,martin have gone they have given st pats 3 great years taken them from the bottom off DIV 2 to 3rd in DIV 1 and winning the inter c ship and to be honest they should have done alot better in ulster greelough are now in the ulster final.cllyhanna will get it hard to find a manager to be as good as these guys are they took no shit and everything was down to a T at training.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 19, 2008, 10:26:07 AM
It looks like a few clubs are looking for new management teams for next year...God only knows who will get the Clans job...Cullyhanna need a manager and i think someone mentioned before that carrickcruppen needed a new manager as well...Is there any other clubs in Div 1 looking a new manager???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on November 19, 2008, 10:27:32 AM
Aye Mullaghbawn well, and dromintee jus hav appointed some1..i'd say that there are others 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on November 19, 2008, 10:29:40 AM

Colin Kelly from louth appointed dromintee manager
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on November 19, 2008, 10:52:48 AM
rumours are that the pearse og management are stepping down. any truth in this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ard Macha on November 20, 2008, 12:51:45 AM
Quote from: fcuksake on November 18, 2008, 08:51:02 AM
Anyone know were you find a full list of results from last years ACL Div 1

http://www.maghery.com/table/archive.asp?yr=2007

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on November 20, 2008, 02:41:21 AM
silver bridge are in the running for a new manager.
wont be hard to out perform the last pair of boys .
might i suggest MONA RUDDY.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on November 20, 2008, 08:44:18 AM
Quote from: illdecide on November 19, 2008, 10:26:07 AM
It looks like a few clubs are looking for new management teams for next year...God only knows who will get the Clans job...???

I thought James French had the job or was it that he was the only one interested in it?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 20, 2008, 11:01:11 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on November 20, 2008, 08:44:18 AM
Quote from: illdecide on November 19, 2008, 10:26:07 AM
It looks like a few clubs are looking for new management teams for next year...God only knows who will get the Clans job...???

I thought James French had the job or was it that he was the only one interested in it?



He's looking the job but there are other interested parties as far as i know
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on November 20, 2008, 11:51:56 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on November 19, 2008, 10:29:40 AM

Colin Kelly from louth appointed dromintee manager

o dear
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 20, 2008, 12:02:17 PM
Quote from: Uladh on November 20, 2008, 11:51:56 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on November 19, 2008, 10:29:40 AM

Colin Kelly from louth appointed dromintee manager

o dear

Not been on much these days Uladh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on November 20, 2008, 12:05:23 PM

Not easy getting access corn. home for a week now though!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 20, 2008, 03:02:49 PM
Another couple of development squads, another lack of Cross players?

BC what is the story here? I heard there was some fall-out, is that bullshit. It seems to be a regular occurence in development squads, maybe I am missing a seperate list?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on November 20, 2008, 03:14:45 PM
Quote from: corn02 on November 20, 2008, 03:02:49 PM
Another couple of development squads, another lack of Cross players?

BC what is the story here? I heard there was some fall-out, is that bullshit. It seems to be a regular occurence in development squads, maybe I am missing a seperate list?
A Cross contact told me that Tim Gregory simply does not believe in them, he doesn't want to tell a lad of 14 or 15 that they don't make the cut. Fair enough, I suppose.
BC can confirm this, just what I heard.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2008, 03:27:03 PM
I don't know the ins and outs but I do know that they don't agree with them.  it doesn't seem to be affecting their development either not being involved, so why should they change the policy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 20, 2008, 04:02:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2008, 03:27:03 PM
I don't know the ins and outs but I do know that they don't agree with them.  it doesn't seem to be affecting their development either not being involved, so why should they change the policy.
How do you assess it?? Almighty hammering in Co Minor Championship final, followed hot on the heels by another trimming by Keady in the ACML U16 final. 

I've seen players come back from these squads as better players as the coaching is generally of a higher standard available at most clubs, the down side is that young lads do tend to bring back inflated egos etc... with them too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on November 20, 2008, 04:08:28 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 20, 2008, 04:02:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2008, 03:27:03 PM
I don't know the ins and outs but I do know that they don't agree with them.  it doesn't seem to be affecting their development either not being involved, so why should they change the policy.
How do you assess it?? Almighty hammering in Co Minor Championship final, followed hot on the heels by another trimming by Keady in the ACML U16 final. 

I've seen players come back from these squads as better players as the coaching is generally of a higher standard available at most clubs, the down side is that young lads do tend to bring back inflated egos etc... with them too.

I think what BC is trying to say is that Gregory doesnt believe telling ANY lad at 14 or 15 that they are not good enough to make Development squads, the lad will then probably say well f**k you and turn on his heel and not play football!  I can see Gregorys point but I suppose looking at Tyrone more than anyone else, there is something to be said for Development Squads if carried out in the right process.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on November 20, 2008, 04:11:57 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 20, 2008, 04:02:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2008, 03:27:03 PM
I don't know the ins and outs but I do know that they don't agree with them.  it doesn't seem to be affecting their development either not being involved, so why should they change the policy.
How do you assess it?? Almighty hammering in Co Minor Championship final, followed hot on the heels by another trimming by Keady in the ACML U16 final. 

I've seen players come back from these squads as better players as the coaching is generally of a higher standard available at most clubs, the down side is that young lads do tend to bring back inflated egos etc... with them too.

i would dispute this
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 20, 2008, 04:25:26 PM
As you are entitled to do, but like it or not development squads are by their nature 'elite' - in terms of players and the coaching - otherwise what is the point of them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on November 20, 2008, 04:32:22 PM

I often ask that question. some of the lads who come back report "fitness sessions" with an array of ladders and speed poles round the field. i've gone along to watch a few and have yet to see any "coaching".

the only benefit i can see is that they are doing these drills and competing in the company of a higher standard of opponent
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 20, 2008, 04:35:50 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2008, 03:27:03 PM
I don't know the ins and outs but I do know that they don't agree with them.  it doesn't seem to be affecting their development either not being involved, so why should they change the policy.

I suppose that is fair enough of Gregory alright. But the thing that annoys me is that these are not development squads, they are Armagh development squads. Surely pulling players out will be a loss to Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 20, 2008, 04:40:53 PM
Quote from: corn02 on November 20, 2008, 04:35:50 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2008, 03:27:03 PM
I don't know the ins and outs but I do know that they don't agree with them.  it doesn't seem to be affecting their development either not being involved, so why should they change the policy.

I suppose that is fair enough of Gregory alright. But the thing that annoys me is that these are not development squads, they are Armagh development squads. Surely pulling players out will be a loss to Armagh.

It hasnt had much effect on the quality Cross provide to Armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2008, 04:41:23 PM
Benny, under age wins are grand and all that, but I am talking in terms of development as players for the real thing which is senior football.  Cross got to a minor final with a team with a core of players who were U16.  They were well beaten by yourselves and I was the first to congratulate the Harps for that, but no harm to you the Harps hardly have a great record of bringing young lads through from minor to senior.  For all the great underage teams they have produced in the last 10 years, they have failed miserably to bring it onto the senior level yet.  The same can be said for the Ogs.  In the same period, Cross have won 2 maybe 3 minor championships and maybe 2 u 21 championships. Out of those teams they have brought through a group of players who are playing in an  senior Ulster Final next week.  Of course the old heads are still the mainstays, but can you honestly say that when they go, which will be gradual, that Cross will all of a sudden stop winning?  We both know the answer to that.  

Underage championships are great, but it is how you develop players and coach them to bring out the best in them which is more important.  Cross underage training system has been working for the last 20 years.  If the Development squads are a better option than fine.  I personally have seen the Cross lad coached from they are 8 and they are trained at that age like we were trained as seniors so i think they will be ok
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 20, 2008, 04:43:48 PM
Quote from: full back on November 20, 2008, 04:40:53 PM
Quote from: corn02 on November 20, 2008, 04:35:50 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2008, 03:27:03 PM
I don't know the ins and outs but I do know that they don't agree with them.  it doesn't seem to be affecting their development either not being involved, so why should they change the policy.

I suppose that is fair enough of Gregory alright. But the thing that annoys me is that these are not development squads, they are Armagh development squads. Surely pulling players out will be a loss to Armagh.

It hasnt had much effect on the quality Cross provide to Armagh

But that is exactly my point.I am assuming there are plenty of underage  Cross players good enough for these squads. Without them on board, the teams will be weaker. You should have the same boys are Armagh teams from underage right up like in Tyrone, it is not just about the seniors.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 20, 2008, 05:47:40 PM
The ulster club final between Cross and ballinderry is fixed for Sunday 30th Nov in Enniskillen at 3.45 which means that the second half will have to be played under lights.

What a ridiculous decision by the "caring" ulster council
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on November 20, 2008, 06:04:36 PM
BC - I can understand the 'If its not broke dont fix it' attitude, but is there not something to be learned from exposing the underage players to external influences. I know Tim is against the development squads, but a good few people in Cross seem to think they would be a good idea.

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2008, 04:41:23 PM
Cross underage training system has been working for the last 20 years.

There can be very little doubt about that, but has football not changed somewhat in the intervening period? I know Cross have the results to back up any argument, but I do think the development squads are a fantastic idea.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2008, 06:20:41 PM
I don't know what goes on at the Development squads so I cannot comment on whether they would be good or bad.  What I do know is that there is a regular flow of young players form the underage squads onto the senior squad.  These players are improving the squad every year.  There are now 30 lads who can play senior championship on the squad.  When I was playing you could not say that.  The likes of Titch and Paul McKeown will develop into serious county players in the next 2-3 years and they did no need for development squads.  Surely if they are so good other clubs wouldn't want to see Cross players at them as there are enough of them graduating to seniors at the minute ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: under the bar on November 21, 2008, 08:13:47 AM
It seems Armagh's new hurling manager is a St John's man from Antrim!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on November 21, 2008, 08:52:31 AM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 21, 2008, 10:14:54 AM
Concerning the debate about development squads. I have one question BC if the Cross hadn't been so successful at senior level over the last 15 years do you think they would be encouraging young players from going to the development county squads?? Now i know you don't speak for  the current cross  managersBC but i would generally like to hear your views on this.  I think there has been a gradual battle between Cross and the county  becoming increasingly visible over the past few years. I think there is a touch of arrogance on the side of the Cross, because of there success i feel they sometimes think they can do whatever they want and the issue at hand is a further example. It seems they are saying to the young lads don't go to these county things stay at Cross and we will look after you because we are infact better than the county. Now this is great if that is the case but in the long run i think it will pose a few problems for the Cross. My club would be renowned for being arrogant and i will accept that (so i don' want to make this into a clans versus the rest of the county debate) But this has backfired on us. I would just be interested to hear the rest of the opinions on the subject.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 21, 2008, 10:30:03 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2008, 06:20:41 PM
I don't know what goes on at the Development squads so I cannot comment on whether they would be good or bad.  What I do know is that there is a regular flow of young players form the underage squads onto the senior squad.  These players are improving the squad every year.  There are now 30 lads who can play senior championship on the squad.  When I was playing you could not say that.  The likes of Titch and Paul McKeown will develop into serious county players in the next 2-3 years and they did no need for development squads.  Surely if they are so good other clubs wouldn't want to see Cross players at them as there are enough of them graduating to seniors at the minute ;)
There's a good chance that this may sound ridculous but I firmly believe a Cross team without the Macs, JD, Bellew & Oisin will be ordinary and very beatable.  The likes of the Kernan brothers are all good players, but they'll certainly not strike fear into hearts the way JD and Bellew have done, and I think that's half the battle when playing Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 21, 2008, 10:41:40 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 21, 2008, 10:30:03 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2008, 06:20:41 PM
I don't know what goes on at the Development squads so I cannot comment on whether they would be good or bad.  What I do know is that there is a regular flow of young players form the underage squads onto the senior squad.  These players are improving the squad every year.  There are now 30 lads who can play senior championship on the squad.  When I was playing you could not say that.  The likes of Titch and Paul McKeown will develop into serious county players in the next 2-3 years and they did no need for development squads.  Surely if they are so good other clubs wouldn't want to see Cross players at them as there are enough of them graduating to seniors at the minute ;)
There's a good chance that this may sound ridculous but I firmly believe a Cross team without the Macs, JD, Bellew & Oisin will be ordinary and very beatable.  The likes of the Kernan brothers are all good players, but they'll certainly not strike fear into hearts the way JD and Bellew have done, and I think that's half the battle when playing Cross.

Of course they will be beatable, that group of players was the best ever seen at Armagh club level, you can't just replace it. But I think people are missing the point, it may not harm Cross' development, but surely it wil lhurt Armagh's.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 21, 2008, 10:49:34 AM
benny, I have no doubt that when those players retire the cycle will slow down and Cross will find it harder to maintain the current level.  The thing is though, that Macs are 3-4 years away from club retirement, as are Oisin and Francie.  In the intervening 3-4 years the likes of David McKenna, Paul McKeown, Jamie Clarke, Ryan and Kyle Carragher will all have developed into established senior players.  Add those players onto the 4 Kernan's Brendan McKeown, Mickey McNamee, Johnny Hannratty, and you see where I am going here.  They may not have a run of wins like is happening at the minute, but I still think they will dominate.


Quote from: winsamsoon on November 21, 2008, 10:14:54 AM
Concerning the debate about development squads. I have one question BC if the Cross hadn't been so successful at senior level over the last 15 years do you think they would be encouraging young players from going to the development county squads?? Now i know you don't speak for  the current cross  managersBC but i would generally like to hear your views on this.  I think there has been a gradual battle between Cross and the county  becoming increasingly visible over the past few years. I think there is a touch of arrogance on the side of the Cross, because of there success i feel they sometimes think they can do whatever they want and the issue at hand is a further example. It seems they are saying to the young lads don't go to these county things stay at Cross and we will look after you because we are infact better than the county. Now this is great if that is the case but in the long run i think it will pose a few problems for the Cross. My club would be renowned for being arrogant and i will accept that (so i don' want to make this into a clans versus the rest of the county debate) But this has backfired on us. I would just be interested to hear the rest of the opinions on the subject.

I know what you are saying, but if there is an animosity between Cross and the county, then why is it up to Cross to do anything about it.  If the club underage management feel that the best interests of the young players is to keep them at the club, I see no problem with that.  Of course I would like to see Armagh do well, but to me the notion of having development squads for young lads at the age of 15 is wrong.  They have enough matches at most clubs to keep them going and there is the risk that if they are left out of a development squad, they are at an age where they will throw the head up.  I do not see the same problem with Cross that the Clans had to deal with as there is a very strong link between every team and the people coaching the underage teams are flowing down from the senior team.  There is continuity there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 21, 2008, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: corn02 on November 21, 2008, 10:41:40 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 21, 2008, 10:30:03 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 20, 2008, 06:20:41 PM
I don't know what goes on at the Development squads so I cannot comment on whether they would be good or bad.  What I do know is that there is a regular flow of young players form the underage squads onto the senior squad.  These players are improving the squad every year.  There are now 30 lads who can play senior championship on the squad.  When I was playing you could not say that.  The likes of Titch and Paul McKeown will develop into serious county players in the next 2-3 years and they did no need for development squads.  Surely if they are so good other clubs wouldn't want to see Cross players at them as there are enough of them graduating to seniors at the minute ;)
There's a good chance that this may sound ridculous but I firmly believe a Cross team without the Macs, JD, Bellew & Oisin will be ordinary and very beatable.  The likes of the Kernan brothers are all good players, but they'll certainly not strike fear into hearts the way JD and Bellew have done, and I think that's half the battle when playing Cross.

Of course they will be beatable, that group of players was the best ever seen at Armagh club level, you can't just replace it. But I think people are missing the point, it may not harm Cross' development, but surely it wil lhurt Armagh's.
To be perfectly honest Armagh's wellbeing is (and should be) a distant second to club interests.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 21, 2008, 01:50:47 PM
Of course I wouldn't argue with that Benny, but I raised the point about the fall-out with the thought that this will hamper Armagh's development. I hate to continually refer to Tyrone, but the results are obvious from their point of view.

On the club side, will it hamper Cross? I would be of the opinion it will. Obviously they have had no problems as of yet and BC rightly points to players coming through, but I'd say the majority of those played Armagh U-16 and minor and Ryan was always involved with Abbey teams. I think it was fullback who said the only benefit players will get is playing against a higher standard of player, that in itself is a good enough reason.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 21, 2008, 03:31:32 PM
Benny i would agree myself that the club should be well before the county setups.

BC i take on board what you are saying lad and that is why i ask you about it because i wanted to get an insight into how someone from cross would feel about the issue. I also would agree with you when you raise the point about the clans. As a clans member there is no comparison from what i can see.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: aroundincircles on November 23, 2008, 02:42:20 AM
Would cross have won thirteen in a row in any other county in ulster i dont think so they are a super team but i think once in 70 odd club championship games with in any other county in ulster they would have been caught at least once!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on November 23, 2008, 10:18:44 AM
Quote from: AFS on November 23, 2008, 03:46:10 AM
Its worth remembering that every other time Cross have won the the Armagh championship they've gone on to conquer the rest of Ulster (with the possibility of that record extending beyond 50% next weekend), and that they've done this while arguable having a 'break' from the early to mid noughties while Armagh took centre stage.

what does this mean?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on November 23, 2008, 01:36:34 PM
If they win next week,they will have 7 Ulsters from 13, hence > 50%.
It is reasonable to suggest that with many prominent Cross' players playing in AI county finals in 2002, 2003 that this may have affected their performance in the subsequent Ulster club championship, either through burnout or diminished hunger for reaching Croke Pk again.               
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 23, 2008, 03:04:00 PM
How can you have diminished hunger for reaching Croke park for an all ireland final with your club? Dont be so stupid! And in my opinion if they were in Tyrone or Derry they would only have about 7 championships to their name as these are firecely contested championships with strong teams however I think they would have dominated all other counties almost as much with only Galls, Enniskillen and Castleblayney taking the odd one off them. People dont realise that the next three odd best teams in Armagh would prob have won multiple championships in most other Ulster counties over the past 13 years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 23, 2008, 03:39:50 PM
Quote from: aroundincircles on November 23, 2008, 02:42:20 AM
Would cross have won thirteen in a row in any other county in ulster i dont think so they are a super team but i think once in 70 odd club championship games with in any other county in ulster they would have been caught at least once!!!
They've rode their luck on a few occassions in Armagh too.  Ogs and Dromintee both could have won games against them.

Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 23, 2008, 03:04:00 PM
People dont realise that the next three odd best teams in Armagh would prob have won multiple championships in most other Ulster counties over the past 13 years.
I've said it numerous times that Dromintee would have won at least an Ulster if they could've gotten past Cross.  I get the feeling that their time has probably passed, but they are arguably still the second best team in Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 23, 2008, 04:44:58 PM
I dont know about an Ulster Benny. If you havent got over Cross in 10 attempts why would you all of a sudden beat a Ballinderry, Bellaghy or Errigal Cairin? I think Dromintee, the Ogs and Clans would have a few champioships to thier names in most other counties and would prob have dominated in areas like down, Cavan, monaghan and Donegal. However this is an irrelevant argument, they are Armagh clubs so thats the one they have to win! Sorry!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 23, 2008, 04:52:31 PM
It's all opinions, On occassion Cross have found it every bit as hard to beat Dromintee as any of those teams. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 24, 2008, 12:07:00 AM
North Armagh Town team beat North Armagh Country team 1-16 to 1-08
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 24, 2008, 09:27:39 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 24, 2008, 12:07:00 AM
North Armagh Town team beat North Armagh Country team 1-16 to 1-08

C'mon the buckfast brigade... :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on November 24, 2008, 11:04:06 AM
QuoteIn Tyrone - Would've won at least 10 or 11

lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 24, 2008, 11:22:23 AM
The game at Clann Eirean was dyer to. But i guess you could put it down to the poor underfoot conditions and the time of year. Plus you would have had a lot of players playing with each other for the first time which made it sort of like a trial game. Was disappointed with the turn out though. People yap and yap about getting more Gaelic going in North Armagh and then when we have something like this they all choose to sit at the fire or maybe they were watching the spurs game which wouldn't be out of place in Lurgan. Soccer heads all over the place the bars are like soccer magnets. You go into them and you hear ballbags in liverpool tops talking about "we" should have done this. I always ask them where they born in liverpool. That one really gets my goat.

On the Cross issue. I feel Cross would have dominated most of the counties that AFS mentioned but i think they would have found Derry and Tyrone football a different ball game. Now i am not saying they wouldn't have won any championships because clearly they would because they are a class act. But In tyrone and Derry you would have had teams that had more individually skiled footballers. Even if you look at the Derry and in particular Tyrone county team. Despite the dominance of Armagh in Ulster i always felt Tyrone were a better footballing team in terms of individual football ability. IMHO I think cross would have held their own with the Bellaghy's the Ballinderry's the Errigals and the rest but they certainly wouldn't have been so dominant.

I would also be of the opinion that there success in Armagh was partly due to the lack of opposition in Armagh. As the cross rein has continued to grow the opposition to cross has continued to dwindle. sure we have had a mix of clubs trying to challenge them but all in all they were never in any real danger. I am not going to get into that argument again about who is second best in Armagh because it doesn't really matter. Fact is that they were never really good enough to challenge the Cross who are on a different level from all in Armagh and most in Ulster.

It will interesting to see the cross game on Sunday. Some would say that this is a cross team that are getting on in years and are not as good as they once were. I don't buy into that either. Ballinderry are a team in transition as well. They have brought in a few younger lads so it should be a good game. It will also give us an indication of the standard of the Ulster club this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Gs Man on November 24, 2008, 03:44:26 PM
Was at the game in Clann Eireann myself (even missed the Spurs match for it!).  Wasn't great but sure it was all for charity anyway.  Conditions were pretty bad right enough.  Slowed the game right down.  The helicopter flying overhead the whole time didn't help either....

Thought Ryan Henderson was the pick of the bunch even though he made a few dodgy decisions.  Scored a cracker goal though.  Danny Shanks also showed up well.  I thought the country team looked better on paper, but they didn't seem to try as hard.

Was there any county selectors or anything like that at the game? Not sure if they would have took much from it though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 24, 2008, 05:04:25 PM
QuoteI would also be of the opinion that there success in Armagh was partly due to the lack of opposition in Armagh. As the cross rein has continued to grow the opposition to cross has continued to dwindle. sure we have had a mix of clubs trying to challenge them but all in all they were never in any real danger

That simply isn't true. You are "in real danger" when you're 2 points down heading into injury time or in any game when its level in the final minute and one point will send you out. There were years when Cross struggled as much, if not more, to get out of Armagh as they did to get out of Ulster.

As for Dromintee, I think at this stage they just don't have the belief that they can beat Cross. It'll probably be another side that eventually stops Rangers' dominance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 24, 2008, 05:49:44 PM
Yeah but you guys keep bringing up the two points in games but it doesn't really matter whether you are beaten by 2 or 20 they were still beaten. If the game would have went into the melting pot then cross would have scored another 4 if they needed. They are like Armagh only more ruthless. The cross always grinded out results in tighter games but they were always capable of more than the opposition. If Dromintee, Harps, Ogs, clans, Mullaghbawn or any other team would have went forward to ulster competition they would have lost out. They wouldn't have won what cross did they wouldn't have even got near it. Look at your own team the year Tac. A third division derry side (i don't mean that as a dig ) i am using it merely to highlight the difference.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 24, 2008, 06:58:05 PM
I think the difference between Cross and other teams is how they perceive the championship and individual games themselves.  For ten years now( i would discount the first 3 years as the momenum hadn't built up at that stage), Cross have been training to win the championship, while other teams have been training to beat Cross.  As a result any game that Cross play is a testy affair, scrappy football, with the other team set out to disrupt Cross and stop them playing.  Cross on the other hand have a style of play which they try to impose on the game.  As has been shown in games, they close the opposition down, they force them into mistakes, and then the attack on masse.  As each year has passed it has become harder for Cross to win handsomely in Armagh as the stakes become increasingly higher, as each championship win passes, it is harder to win as the pressure is increasing.  Now that they have won the 13 in a row, there is less pressure, but they will want to own the record outright.  If they win next year(which I believe they will) I actually think the next few years after that will be easier to win, if they can maintain the focus, and the younger players start filling out. 

Until teams can get over the notion that the championship means that they have to beat Cross then it will only get harder for a team to beat them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thegael on November 24, 2008, 07:02:00 PM
cross are a great club but to be quite honest club football in armagh is useless and a bit like kerry in the 70 s munster was so weak they always had an easy run.

the wintry conditions lend themselves to suit cross style of play in their early years were they would take men out via the cumiskey route.

but you cannt take away their records but armagh club football really is dire!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on November 24, 2008, 08:21:26 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 24, 2008, 11:22:23 AM
The game at Clann Eirean was dyer to. But i guess you could put it down to the poor underfoot conditions and the time of year. Plus you would have had a lot of players playing with each other for the first time which made it sort of like a trial game. Was disappointed with the turn out though. People yap and yap about getting more Gaelic going in North Armagh and then when we have something like this they all choose to sit at the fire or maybe they were watching the spurs game which wouldn't be out of place in Lurgan. Soccer heads all over the place the bars are like soccer magnets. You go into them and you hear ballbags in liverpool tops talking about "we" should have done this. I always ask them where they born in liverpool. That one really gets my goat.

On the Cross issue. I feel Cross would have dominated most of the counties that AFS mentioned but i think they would have found Derry and Tyrone football a different ball game. Now i am not saying they wouldn't have won any championships because clearly they would because they are a class act. But In tyrone and Derry you would have had teams that had more individually skiled footballers. Even if you look at the Derry and in particular Tyrone county team. Despite the dominance of Armagh in Ulster i always felt Tyrone were a better footballing team in terms of individual football ability. IMHO I think cross would have held their own with the Bellaghy's the Ballinderry's the Errigals and the rest but they certainly wouldn't have been so dominant.

I would also be of the opinion that there success in Armagh was partly due to the lack of opposition in Armagh. As the cross rein has continued to grow the opposition to cross has continued to dwindle. sure we have had a mix of clubs trying to challenge them but all in all they were never in any real danger. I am not going to get into that argument again about who is second best in Armagh because it doesn't really matter. Fact is that they were never really good enough to challenge the Cross who are on a different level from all in Armagh and most in Ulster.

It will interesting to see the cross game on Sunday. Some would say that this is a cross team that are getting on in years and are not as good as they once were. I don't buy into that either. Ballinderry are a team in transition as well. They have brought in a few younger lads so it should be a good game. It will also give us an indication of the standard of the Ulster club this year.

In my opinion second best means absolutely nothing...

However for arguments sake I think, just as Cross's record in being the best team in Armagh speaks for itself, Dromintee's record in being second best does also. Dromintee have beaten every team, bar Cross obviously, in the senior championship since 1998. Many of those encounters were regularly against Og's, Harps, and Clans.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 24, 2008, 08:42:37 PM
But as you say doire it means absolutely nothing even if it is for arguments sake. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on November 25, 2008, 11:04:34 AM
From Todays Indo..........

Floodlight row sparks fury ahead of Ulster showdown


By Cliona Foley


Tuesday November 25 2008

DEFENDING Ulster football champions Crossmaglen Rangers have been forced to go to the Down County Board for a suitable floodlit training pitch after being refused permission to use their own county ground ahead of Sunday's provincial decider.

Furious Rangers manager Donal Murtagh has revealed that, in a bid to practise under floodlights in preparation for the Ulster final, his side sought permission to use the Athletics Grounds but were refused by their county board.

"They refused point blank but, to be honest, I am not surprised," Murtagh said. "It is bad form, we are representing our county as county champions after all."

But the Armagh board have insisted that they are allowing no one to train in the revamped Athletics Grounds, not even teams who have had matches there recently.

"It is 'matches only' in the Athletics Grounds at the moment, with no exceptions," said Armagh PRO Joe Jordan.

Elite

"Teams who are coming in there to play games are allowed to use the county's elite training centre at Shannonbridge to train on, but there is a fairly hefty programme of matches at the county ground at the moment and the same rule is being applied across the board."

With a 3.45 throw-in for Sunday's Ulster final against Ballinderry in Enniskillen, the Ulster Council have indicated that full floodlights will be used for the match.

Murtagh wanted to practise in the Athletic Grounds as their lights will most replicate those match conditions.

And he is far from impressed with such a late throw-in, especially as most fixtures at this time of year have a 2pm or 2.30 throw-in because of the fading light.

"From the start we were disappointed by the fact that game will be under lights," said Murtagh.



"At first the Ulster Council said the second-half would be under lights but with the weather and the time of year it is getting dark at 3pm and 4pm.

"It is only a minor thing but some of my players aren't that fussed on playing the whole game under lights and, at this stage of the Ulster club championship, you can leave little to chance," he added.

It remains to be seen whether Down County Board will give them the go-ahead to train at Pairc Esler in Newry which also has a busy schedule of matches at present.

- Cliona Foley
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 25, 2008, 11:24:43 AM
IMHO the CB should be letting Cross use the field. Others will say there are rules in place, but if Cross have to go to Down to train it will look very bad on our CB
It is an Ulster Final FFS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 25, 2008, 12:13:25 PM
I didn't hear the bawl Donal coming out and complaining when the cross were hosting the Armagh club championships finals that they were in . Donal wasn't coming out then asking for the finals to be switched to down. They don't support our under age development programmes and now they have the audacity to complain because they cannot get the Athletic grounds. Come on lads fair is fair.












Now the above was a wind up ;) :D but i can just see BC and the boys rubbing the hands after reading the above waiting to get stuck into me. No but seriously  it is a disgrace the County board are once again a laughing stock. What would it take someone to open the gates and turn the lights on ffs. The county board should be doing all within their power to ensure the county champions get all the preaparation they need. There would be enough outside powers trying to ensure that the cross were defeated without our own county board adding to it. I don't think the cross are asking too much. They are really only asking for a fair crack at the whip. On another note lads are they still working on the cross pitch or is it finished?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on November 25, 2008, 12:22:57 PM
i seen the cross team training on the bridge field using their floodlights last friday evening...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 25, 2008, 12:33:44 PM
Sure the bridge is a feeder club to Cross!!!!   ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 25, 2008, 12:48:18 PM
Clans should let them use Davitt  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 25, 2008, 12:59:32 PM
Uusally Cross have plenty of sway with the county board, so I am surprised.

However, i think it is only fair they be allowed to train there, strange decision.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 25, 2008, 01:04:32 PM
Or is it Divot Park. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T O Hare on November 25, 2008, 01:08:14 PM
mayobridge have had the same trouble in previous years in hetting the marshes for lights... What the county board dont remember is that all clubs paid for these county grounds
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 25, 2008, 02:25:15 PM
correct without the clubs there would be no pitches.

Crossfire i'll clip your lug son  ;) that is the hollow turf that was built by the hands from the good lurgan and clans folk.
Nowsdays I will have you know that we take pride in our divots. Especially the two goalmouths that can only be described as moon like. :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 25, 2008, 02:26:25 PM
I see the county board have backed down. Right decision but no surprise.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 25, 2008, 02:27:41 PM
sense has prevailed. If you build it they will come.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on November 25, 2008, 02:28:39 PM
If you are doing nothing Friday night, get yourselves down to the Moy Inn, Ballyhegan Davitts are holding a Strictly Ccome Dancing evening.

Should be a laugh!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 25, 2008, 02:33:48 PM
Quote from: thegael on November 24, 2008, 07:02:00 PM
cross are a great club but to be quite honest club football in armagh is useless and a bit like kerry in the 70 s munster was so weak they always had an easy run.

Cork won 3 Munsters and 1 All Ireland in the 70's.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 25, 2008, 10:32:13 PM
I think the county board has made a laughing stock of itself again - by letting Cross train. They obviously decided the new pitch was going to be matches only and have caved in on the first request. Now will they let anyone who asks train on it? They should have stuck to their guns. And anyway why the f**k does a team need to train under floodlights! Have cross never played under floodlights before? I think their request was ridiculous to be honest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on November 26, 2008, 08:45:02 AM
I thought mid-term break was over!

You really dont have a clue do you?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 26, 2008, 09:32:13 AM
For perhaps the first time ever I'm inclined to agree with I'VEDECIDED.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on November 26, 2008, 09:38:34 AM
Cross should be fully helped win another Ulster / All Ireland!

The better they do outside Armagh, the better the rest of our teams look...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on November 26, 2008, 09:50:31 AM
I didn't realise you got trophies for looking good these days.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 26, 2008, 10:55:56 AM
I would agree with I'vedecided on the fact that they county board have now opened a can of worms ie anyone now that wants the Athletics grounds should be able to get it because cross have.I would also be interested to hear their reasons for wanting the pitch. Do they find it similar to eniskillen?? I am still waiting on an answer concerning the cross pitch. Don't they have floodlights ??

Despite all of the above i think the county board of any county in Ireland should do all within their powers to see that the county champions go as far as they can in the Ulster and the all Ireland series. After all it is no big deal opening a pitch to let them train on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 26, 2008, 11:16:30 AM
The playing surface is ready winsam, but the lights are not up yet.  It is a more difficult issue given the security presence so I think it is taking a bit more time.

As regards the reasoning behind asking for the Athletics Grounds, they have the best lights I presume in Armagh, and anyone who knows, there is a big difference in playing under lights and in normal daylight.  It was a reasonable request and I would think that the County Board have good reasons for their initial decision but given the nature of the game we are preparing for, some leeway is understandable.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on November 26, 2008, 11:30:03 AM
Enniskillen has TV standard floodlights, so does the Athletic grounds. Your typical club ground does not have these, hence the request. Hardly unreasonable.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 26, 2008, 11:59:06 AM
That is what i was asking lads and now that you have told me the reason i woul fully agree that they should have access to the athletic grounds.

It does leaves the can of worms still open but sure it is not like anyone else will be playing in the ulster in the near future ;) ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on November 26, 2008, 05:07:39 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on November 25, 2008, 02:28:39 PM
If you are doing nothing Friday night, get yourselves down to the Moy Inn, Ballyhegan Davitts are holding a Strictly Ccome Dancing evening.

Should be a laugh!

As the great Gene Morgan oncce said abut the 'Bridge starting bingo in the hall.....

"It's great youse found a game youse can play"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 26, 2008, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 26, 2008, 11:16:30 AM
The playing surface is ready winsam, but the lights are not up yet.  It is a more difficult issue given the security presence so I think it is taking a bit more time.

As regards the reasoning behind asking for the Athletics Grounds, they have the best lights I presume in Armagh, and anyone who knows, there is a big difference in playing under lights and in normal daylight.  It was a reasonable request and I would think that the County Board have good reasons for their initial decision but given the nature of the game we are preparing for, some leeway is understandable.
I'd be very surprised if they are any better than the 'bridge's. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on November 26, 2008, 08:28:12 PM
QuoteI'd be very surprised if they are any better than the 'bridge's. 

well they are differently configured than the Bridge's at least.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on November 26, 2008, 09:59:34 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 26, 2008, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 26, 2008, 11:16:30 AM
The playing surface is ready winsam, but the lights are not up yet.  It is a more difficult issue given the security presence so I think it is taking a bit more time.

As regards the reasoning behind asking for the Athletics Grounds, they have the best lights I presume in Armagh, and anyone who knows, there is a big difference in playing under lights and in normal daylight.  It was a reasonable request and I would think that the County Board have good reasons for their initial decision but given the nature of the game we are preparing for, some leeway is understandable.
I'd be very surprised if they are any better than the 'bridge's. 
I think the bridge lights are 400 candle power, but armagh & enniskillen are 600 which is whats need for TV
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 26, 2008, 10:44:06 PM
QuoteI think the bridge lights are 400 candle power, but armagh & enniskillen are 600 which is whats need for TV
I can't argue but I'd question was it necessary for cross to raise this fuss because of that. 
It would be different if they had no floodlights to train under. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 26, 2008, 10:45:12 PM
It is quite trivial to be honest, but never really seen the difference so maybe it will be important.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 27, 2008, 09:48:09 AM
Quote from: goh4205 on November 26, 2008, 09:59:34 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 26, 2008, 07:02:22 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 26, 2008, 11:16:30 AM
The playing surface is ready winsam, but the lights are not up yet.  It is a more difficult issue given the security presence so I think it is taking a bit more time.

As regards the reasoning behind asking for the Athletics Grounds, they have the best lights I presume in Armagh, and anyone who knows, there is a big difference in playing under lights and in normal daylight.  It was a reasonable request and I would think that the County Board have good reasons for their initial decision but given the nature of the game we are preparing for, some leeway is understandable.
I'd be very surprised if they are any better than the 'bridge's. 
I think the bridge lights are 400 candle power, but armagh & enniskillen are 600 which is whats need for TV

Not nit picking here just thought i'd tell you so you'll know for again. The lighting is measured by a term called "Lux". A standard football (club) pitch is usually lit up with an average Lux of 200 - 250 and if hurling is played then the Lux would increase to about 350 Lux. As for the County grounds they would be minimum 350 Lux and a maximum of (how much do you want to spend)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 27, 2008, 09:53:40 AM
I seen you up an cherry picker one day saan getting the lux blew of ya.

If you could have seen the lux they were giving you from the ground. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 27, 2008, 10:06:03 AM
So if you are all to be believed then, there would be a fairly significant difference bewteen the training field lights that we have(even when they have a full set of bulbs working, which isn't always guaranteed) and the lights in Enniskillen.  That being the case, the request by us for use of the lights to adjust to playing under these lights is not that unreasonable.  I wonder if Ballinderry had any issue with this in Derry, I don't know and am wondering if they have good lights or if the were allowed to train in the likes of Ownebeg???i think it is called.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: amigo on November 27, 2008, 10:55:39 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 27, 2008, 10:06:03 AM
So if you are all to be believed then, there would be a fairly significant difference bewteen the training field lights that we have(even when they have a full set of bulbs working, which isn't always guaranteed) and the lights in Enniskillen.  That being the case, the request by us for use of the lights to adjust to playing under these lights is not that unreasonable.  I wonder if Ballinderry had any issue with this in Derry, I don't know and am wondering if they have good lights or if the were allowed to train in the likes of Ownebeg???i think it is called.

I think Ballinderry got new floodlights last year! They might have held a McKenna Cup game under them if memory serves me right!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 27, 2008, 11:04:53 AM
Well most new lights installed within the last 2 -3 years would be a very high spec as most of the clubs are spending big on lights and i'd say a good few would be capable of hosting inter-county matches. As someone mentioned before the lights for matches on TV must be a certain specification which most other clubs won't need to worry about so that's why the county grounds are lit up like daylight...Hurling gets a higher spec than football because of the ball being smaller and moving at much faster speeds.

so your answer BC1 is that Brewster Park and the Athletic Grounds would be lit up to the same spec hence Cross looking to train on it...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 27, 2008, 11:06:39 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 27, 2008, 09:53:40 AM
I seen you up an cherry picker one day saan getting the lux blew of ya.

If you could have seen the lux they were giving you from the ground. :D :D :D

Easy you...i remember that and it was the next moring after our annual dinner and the hangover with that cherry picker swaying like a bucking bronco was too much...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 27, 2008, 12:12:21 PM
It was the week before i was talking about when the picker had to be sent back. Sure i wasn't at the annual din dins
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DoYerJob Linesman on November 27, 2008, 02:33:29 PM
We have new lights in Ballinderry, and they are a great job.

I am almost certain that Ballinderry trained in the Athletic Grounds the week before our semi final with Cavan Gaels.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on November 27, 2008, 02:34:16 PM
I thought training wasn't allowed on the Athletic Grounds?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 27, 2008, 02:42:13 PM
Now ins't this interesting. If ballinderry were allowed to train in the Athletic grounds and they were refusing the Cross this would be typical of the county board.

Personally i think all Gaa resources should be available to all sections within the GAA. The grounds are maintained by the people of certain clubs but surely it is part of the gaelic ethos that what belongs to one should be used by another (within reason). Or am i failing to realise that the GAA is becoming more and more like a business every day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on November 27, 2008, 02:51:45 PM

There's either a stipulation or at least an understanding that teams can get on a session on a neutral venue they are due to play on. this wouldn't apply in this case to cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 27, 2008, 02:59:49 PM
But would still be weird that they will accomadate a Derry team but would not help their own.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 27, 2008, 03:02:26 PM
I may be completely wrong here. ( I THINK IT HAPPENED ONCE BEFORE) but reading the press all week and in particular Donal Murtaghs comments - it seems to me Cross(uncharacteristically) are making excuses to lose this game. All ive heard is complaints about the lights and the timing of the game! It will be the same for Ballinderry too Donal son! :D If I was him id worry less about the wattage in light bulbs and more about the 15 snarling Derry men out to exact revenge for a farcicial final two years ago.  :o :o :o!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DoYerJob Linesman on November 27, 2008, 03:04:41 PM
Confirmed, Ballinderry DID train in the Athletic Grounds on the Sunday before the semi final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 27, 2008, 03:13:57 PM
The difference is they were playing there the following week - Cross are playing in Enniskillen! Completely different scenario lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on November 27, 2008, 03:15:34 PM
Its the fact that the Armagh county chairman (I think it was him) said they "do not allow teams to train here, club or county"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on November 27, 2008, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: DoYerJob Linesman on November 27, 2008, 03:04:41 PM
Confirmed, Ballinderry DID train in the Athletic Grounds on the Sunday before the semi final.

Doesn't matter if playing the following wee kor whatever. The county board should be making provisions for their team (Cross). Their argument about no training in the Atletic Grounds is redudant and foolish. Can't believe I'm standing up for Cross, I need a lie down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 27, 2008, 03:17:26 PM
I agree that was stupid - its a known accomodation in the game to allow a team a training session on a filed before they are due to play a championship game on it. So to say noone will be training on the athletic grounds was stupid.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 27, 2008, 03:21:33 PM
Cross have only themselves to blame they have failed to accomodate the county board on numerous occasions. The most obvious examples being when they threatened to pull all their players out of county teams if the board didnt lie down to them and when they refuse to participate in underage development squads. (I personally dont entirely disagree with them on that one) There is now a division between them and a, 'Why should we accomodate you' attitude on both sides.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on November 27, 2008, 07:26:27 PM
Pints.. any word on the new bridge managers...they have no hope if laurel and hardy still has it..is mc cann and reel still headin to oz for few months...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 27, 2008, 07:42:08 PM
I never heard any news on the manager and completely disagree that the Reels were "laurel and hardy".  Two dedicated clubmen who were sweating blood for the 'bridge when Ciaran Conlon's fan club (some of whom arent even members of the club!) were in nappies. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on November 27, 2008, 11:39:25 PM
surely you cant call last year progress pints . 4th from bottom of div 2.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on November 27, 2008, 11:43:47 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 27, 2008, 03:21:33 PM
Cross have only themselves to blame they have failed to accomodate the county board on numerous occasions. The most obvious examples being when they threatened to pull all their players out of county teams if the board didnt lie down to them and when they refuse to participate in underage development squads. (I personally dont entirely disagree with them on that one) There is now a division between them and a, 'Why should we accomodate you' attitude on both sides.

Grudge here at all?

Haven't been on the board in while but just on 'the use of the Atheltic Grounds' issue, there has been more than one team training there. Definitely seen another team there before the Ulster Club started. Seen the lights on one mid week night when I was driving over the ring road and went down for a nosy (not long after the reopening, so there was still the novelty factor of seeing teams on it). A team, don't know who it was though, was jogging down in front of the Ceanarus and there was cones on the pitch. noticed at least one other team on it after that

Of course, when it was supposed to be our 'home' ground we played a whole season of under 16 football away from 'home' until the county final!! First 'home' game of the year a county final!! :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Whacker on November 28, 2008, 08:50:57 AM
Quote from: ogshead on November 27, 2008, 11:43:47 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 27, 2008, 03:21:33 PM
Cross have only themselves to blame they have failed to accomodate the county board on numerous occasions. The most obvious examples being when they threatened to pull all their players out of county teams if the board didnt lie down to them and when they refuse to participate in underage development squads. (I personally dont entirely disagree with them on that one) There is now a division between them and a, 'Why should we accomodate you' attitude on both sides.

Grudge here at all?

Haven't been on the board in while but just on 'the use of the Atheltic Grounds' issue, there has been more than one team training there. Definitely seen another team there before the Ulster Club started. Seen the lights on one mid week night when I was driving over the ring road and went down for a nosy (not long after the reopening, so there was still the novelty factor of seeing teams on it). A team, don't know who it was though, was jogging down in front of the Ceanarus and there was cones on the pitch. noticed at least one other team on it after that

Of course, when it was supposed to be our 'home' ground we played a whole season of under 16 football away from 'home' until the county final!! First 'home' game of the year a county final!! :o

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but is Pearse Og Park now not the Og's "home" ground as you call it??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 28, 2008, 09:09:18 AM
Quote from: Whacker on November 28, 2008, 08:50:57 AM
Quote from: ogshead on November 27, 2008, 11:43:47 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 27, 2008, 03:21:33 PM
Cross have only themselves to blame they have failed to accomodate the county board on numerous occasions. The most obvious examples being when they threatened to pull all their players out of county teams if the board didnt lie down to them and when they refuse to participate in underage development squads. (I personally dont entirely disagree with them on that one) There is now a division between them and a, 'Why should we accomodate you' attitude on both sides.

Grudge here at all?

Haven't been on the board in while but just on 'the use of the Atheltic Grounds' issue, there has been more than one team training there. Definitely seen another team there before the Ulster Club started. Seen the lights on one mid week night when I was driving over the ring road and went down for a nosy (not long after the reopening, so there was still the novelty factor of seeing teams on it). A team, don't know who it was though, was jogging down in front of the Ceanarus and there was cones on the pitch. noticed at least one other team on it after that

Of course, when it was supposed to be our 'home' ground we played a whole season of under 16 football away from 'home' until the county final!! First 'home' game of the year a county final!! :o

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but is Pearse Og Park now not the Og's "home" ground as you call it??

He said, 'when it was supposed to be their home ground', so I'm assuming he is talking about the Athletic Grounds when it was the Og's home ground & before Pearse Og Park?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 28, 2008, 09:13:09 AM
I thought it was pretty obvious that he was talking about before we had Pearse Og Park, when we used the Athletic Grounds as our pitch
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 28, 2008, 09:18:51 AM
Quote from: AFS on November 28, 2008, 04:24:22 AM
I've also been reading on orchardcounty about a trial match for the county that was held last night, anyone got any word on it? Apparently Peadar Toal was in attendance, I thought he was off playing for Armagh City this year?
From what I have heard Harps are expecting him back for the new season, so it could be right. He's currently with Armagh City and doing extremely well, unless he gets his head turned by a big Irish League club I think he'll be back for club & county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 28, 2008, 11:44:25 AM
Quote from: AFS on November 28, 2008, 04:11:51 AM
I see John Crossey, the ex-Down manager, has taken over our hurlers. Seems like a decent enough appointment.

So decent that the Down hurlers got rid of him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on November 28, 2008, 12:49:10 PM
Is this the game man who walked out as Armagh Development Officer to take the Down job?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 28, 2008, 01:46:42 PM
yip the very one
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on November 28, 2008, 03:05:50 PM
Quote from: Whacker on November 28, 2008, 08:50:57 AM
Quote from: ogshead on November 27, 2008, 11:43:47 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 27, 2008, 03:21:33 PM
Cross have only themselves to blame they have failed to accomodate the county board on numerous occasions. The most obvious examples being when they threatened to pull all their players out of county teams if the board didnt lie down to them and when they refuse to participate in underage development squads. (I personally dont entirely disagree with them on that one) There is now a division between them and a, 'Why should we accomodate you' attitude on both sides.

Grudge here at all?

Haven't been on the board in while but just on 'the use of the Atheltic Grounds' issue, there has been more than one team training there. Definitely seen another team there before the Ulster Club started. Seen the lights on one mid week night when I was driving over the ring road and went down for a nosy (not long after the reopening, so there was still the novelty factor of seeing teams on it). A team, don't know who it was though, was jogging down in front of the Ceanarus and there was cones on the pitch. noticed at least one other team on it after that

Of course, when it was supposed to be our 'home' ground we played a whole season of under 16 football away from 'home' until the county final!! First 'home' game of the year a county final!! :o

Now correct me if I'm wrong, but is Pearse Og Park now not the Og's "home" ground as you call it??

If you had taken the time to read the full comment instead of peeing yourself with excitement thinking you could make a smart remark you would've noticed that I said 'when it was supposed to be our 'home' ground'  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 30, 2008, 11:45:02 AM
Thanks lads for all the good wishes. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 30, 2008, 11:46:43 AM
You're getting as insecure as BC.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on November 30, 2008, 06:28:06 PM
Armagh Harps - Celebrating 120 Years.

This would be an ideal Christmas present for Armagh gaels at home or abroad and those with an interest in GAA in any county.

If you are from Armagh then your club and possible family connections are likely to be mentioned, as Phil McGinn has spent more than 20 years assisduosly researching and recording the history and games of Armagh Harps GFC.  There are over 600 pages and many photos of the founding memers, players past and present and many of the Harps volunteers and supporters thoughrought the decades.

Get your copy by calling Armagh Harps Social Club on Tel: 02837 523281 or pm me.  The book costs £20 and a cheque can be sent to the club or PM me for your copy.

(http://i37.tinypic.com/xe4kjl.jpg)

Happy Christmas
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on December 02, 2008, 01:20:23 PM
pints you not think its time for a change...them men have had 2years and done notin beat no one..simply as that.when fizie was there bridge beat the two best teams in it... ya ne clues on the new managers pints...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on December 02, 2008, 02:35:44 PM
Quote from: Skiddybadoo on November 30, 2008, 06:28:06 PM
Armagh Harps - Celebrating 120 Years.

This would be an ideal Christmas present for Armagh gaels at home or abroad and those with an interest in GAA in any county.

If you are from Armagh then your club and possible family connections are likely to be mentioned, as Phil McGinn has spent more than 20 years assisduosly researching and recording the history and games of Armagh Harps GFC.  There are over 600 pages and many photos of the founding memers, players past and present and many of the Harps volunteers and supporters thoughrought the decades.

Get your copy by calling Armagh Harps Social Club on Tel: 02837 523281 or pm me.  The book costs £20 and a cheque can be sent to the club or PM me for your copy.

(http://i37.tinypic.com/xe4kjl.jpg)

Happy Christmas

Is there not enough comedy on the market for christmas?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on December 02, 2008, 06:08:14 PM
well legs i hear a rangers man is in the frame for the silverbridge job.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on December 02, 2008, 07:33:44 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on December 02, 2008, 06:08:14 PM
well legs i hear a rangers man is in the frame for the silverbridge job.

thats a good sign of the recession,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on December 03, 2008, 09:15:50 PM
John Mac got the red card downgraded to a yellow and so will be eligible to play on sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stevie Nicks on December 03, 2008, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: crossfire on December 03, 2008, 09:15:50 PM
John Mac got the red card downgraded to a yellow and so will be eligible to play on sunday.

Justice. Glad to hear common sense has prevailed however tainted a wee bit by Conway getting away with his antics, GAA really going to have to do something with what is now becoming a trend. >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 04, 2008, 10:03:58 AM
Quote from: Stevie Nicks on December 03, 2008, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: crossfire on December 03, 2008, 09:15:50 PM
John Mac got the red card downgraded to a yellow and so will be eligible to play on sunday.

Justice. Glad to hear common sense has prevailed however tainted a wee bit by Conway getting away with his antics, GAA really going to have to do something with what is now becoming a trend. >:(

But where do you set the precedent. I am sure Cross players have feigned injury, Dromintee players do it too. It happens all the time. Should we make an example of Conway because the cameras were there?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 04, 2008, 10:05:29 AM
I think the lad should be shown up enough at this stage!

He's bound to be getting abuse in training, & players like that get remembered by referees.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 04, 2008, 10:26:36 AM
I only saw the incident once on the tv but to me it looked like Mc Entee made no contact with him at all. So how then can the appeals committee downgrade a red card to a Yellow card??

If he made no contact at all, how in the name of blazes did he get a yellow card. If you ask me this is equally as daft as the refs decision to award a red card.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 04, 2008, 10:50:46 AM
He did hit him with the elbow, but not in the face.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on December 04, 2008, 11:52:25 AM

Any utes on the management merrygoround?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on December 04, 2008, 01:17:44 PM
The Nab have got some guy from Kilcoo in Co. Down,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on December 04, 2008, 10:12:02 PM
I think it's quite funny at the amount of complaints there was today in the Irish News about the referee last Sunday. Thay say decisions even themselves out over the course of the year and I think that was surely the case last Sunday. A lot of people left the athletic grounds after the Armagh semi finals saying that the Harps were robbed a goal at the end. I'm not saying that they would have won a replay against Cross but maybe the replay that they have now is making up for it. I agree with a lot of people though about the Mc Entee incident, it was a disgrace and I'm glad that the decision was overturned. The Ballinderry player's antics were a joke. However, what's just as bad is when teams lie down to kill time near the end of a game when they nudge in front. Cross are the masters. I know I know, I would love the Ogs to be in the position to be able to do that as well nut it really does kill the game and you do what you do to win the game, but it's still faking injury i.e cheating, to run the clock down. To me there's not much difference in that and holdin your face to get some one sent off, it's still doin what ya gotta do to win. I also think that Cross are good enough to win without having to resort to that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 04, 2008, 10:38:34 PM
Quote from: ogshead on December 04, 2008, 10:12:02 PM
However, what's just as bad is when teams lie down to kill time near the end of a game when they nudge in front. Cross are the masters. I know I know, I would love the Ogs to be in the position to be able to do that as well nut it really does kill the game and you do what you do to win the game, but it's still faking injury i.e cheating, to run the clock down. To me there's not much difference in that and holdin your face to get some one sent off, it's still doin what ya gotta do to win. I also think that Cross are good enough to win without having to resort to that

Ogshead, I don't know what age you are but I can tell you that you're very own team are the worst culprits for this.  I recall my championship debut in 1994 against the Ogs in Keady.  We had a nightmare first half and Fergal Harney in FF and Houlie in the middle of the field ran riot scoring 3-4 I think in the first half.  Come the second half and they spent more time on he ground along with a few others like Scaldy. they ran the clock down like never before and never since.  We nearly caught you in the end, and really should have.  Look closer at home before shouting your mouth off! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on December 04, 2008, 10:43:41 PM
Silverbridge have two boys from Duffys circus. Same old same old.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on December 04, 2008, 10:58:34 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 04, 2008, 10:38:34 PM
Quote from: ogshead on December 04, 2008, 10:12:02 PM
However, what's just as bad is when teams lie down to kill time near the end of a game when they nudge in front. Cross are the masters. I know I know, I would love the Ogs to be in the position to be able to do that as well nut it really does kill the game and you do what you do to win the game, but it's still faking injury i.e cheating, to run the clock down. To me there's not much difference in that and holdin your face to get some one sent off, it's still doin what ya gotta do to win. I also think that Cross are good enough to win without having to resort to that

Ogshead, I don't know what age you are but I can tell you that you're very own team are the worst culprits for this.  I recall my championship debut in 1994 against the Ogs in Keady.  We had a nightmare first half and Fergal Harney in FF and Houlie in the middle of the field ran riot scoring 3-4 I think in the first half.  Come the second half and they spent more time on he ground along with a few others like Scaldy. they ran the clock down like never before and never since.  We nearly caught you in the end, and really should have.  Look closer at home before shouting your mouth off! 

I can remember that match in Keady too, and you would have noticed that I did say that I wish we could get in positions like that!! Not having a real go at youse like. I did say that I think Cross are a better team esp in the Armagh Championship than to be playing like that. That Ogs team were a team that had come to the end of it's time. The players who had won senior Championships had retired in bulk and we were on borrowed time as the next couple of years after it proved. Though to say we're the biggest culprits of it is shit, we never get into that position. Cross do it every game. Your example of the Ogs doin it goes back 14 years
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonesfirstandlast on December 04, 2008, 11:11:10 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 04, 2008, 10:38:34 PM
Quote from: ogshead on December 04, 2008, 10:12:02 PM
However, what's just as bad is when teams lie down to kill time near the end of a game when they nudge in front. Cross are the masters. I know I know, I would love the Ogs to be in the position to be able to do that as well nut it really does kill the game and you do what you do to win the game, but it's still faking injury i.e cheating, to run the clock down. To me there's not much difference in that and holdin your face to get some one sent off, it's still doin what ya gotta do to win. I also think that Cross are good enough to win without having to resort to that

Ogshead, I don't know what age you are but I can tell you that you're very own team are the worst culprits for this.  I recall my championship debut in 1994 against the Ogs in Keady.  We had a nightmare first half and Fergal Harney in FF and Houlie in the middle of the field ran riot scoring 3-4 I think in the first half.  Come the second half and they spent more time on he ground along with a few others like Scaldy. they ran the clock down like never before and never since.  We nearly caught you in the end, and really should have.  Look closer at home before shouting your mouth off! 

I think this is a major problem in Armagh and Crossmaglen in particular. A sewrious shortage of mirrors where they could take a good look at themselves before criticising others.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on December 05, 2008, 11:23:00 AM
Quote from: The GAA on December 04, 2008, 11:52:25 AM

Any utes on the management merrygoround?

Colin Kelly from Louth the Dromintee Manager
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 05, 2008, 11:26:33 AM
Quote from: tonesfirstandlast on December 04, 2008, 11:11:10 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 04, 2008, 10:38:34 PM
Quote from: ogshead on December 04, 2008, 10:12:02 PM
However, what's just as bad is when teams lie down to kill time near the end of a game when they nudge in front. Cross are the masters. I know I know, I would love the Ogs to be in the position to be able to do that as well nut it really does kill the game and you do what you do to win the game, but it's still faking injury i.e cheating, to run the clock down. To me there's not much difference in that and holdin your face to get some one sent off, it's still doin what ya gotta do to win. I also think that Cross are good enough to win without having to resort to that

Ogshead, I don't know what age you are but I can tell you that you're very own team are the worst culprits for this.  I recall my championship debut in 1994 against the Ogs in Keady.  We had a nightmare first half and Fergal Harney in FF and Houlie in the middle of the field ran riot scoring 3-4 I think in the first half.  Come the second half and they spent more time on he ground along with a few others like Scaldy. they ran the clock down like never before and never since.  We nearly caught you in the end, and really should have.  Look closer at home before shouting your mouth off! 

I think this is a major problem in Armagh and Crossmaglen in particular. A sewrious shortage of mirrors where they could take a good look at themselves before criticising others.



Cross are very bad at this, the U21 final froma few year ago sticks out. But , like diving, mouth, etc,etc every club is, on a whole, probably as bad as each other.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 05, 2008, 11:34:03 AM
QuoteOgshead, I don't know what age you are but I can tell you that you're very own team are the worst culprits for this.  I recall my championship debut in 1994 against the Ogs in Keady.  We had a nightmare first half and Fergal Harney in FF and Houlie in the middle of the field ran riot scoring 3-4 I think in the first half.  Come the second half and they spent more time on he ground along with a few others like Scaldy. they ran the clock down like never before and never since.  We nearly caught you in the end, and really should have.  Look closer at home before shouting your mouth off!
Jeeze BC, 14 years ago!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 05, 2008, 01:36:35 PM
Just because something happened 14 years ago doesn't mean that it has no relevance to the point.
I would think most teams are as bad as each other on this front. The issue of going down and wasting time, i wouldn't really deem it as cheating i think this is all part and parcel of the game. It just boils down to who is in the luxury position coming to the end of the game. it is just a wee bit of craft and it is mostly performed by the older members of the squad "what we would call the old heads"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 05, 2008, 01:39:07 PM
QuoteJust because something happened 14 years ago doesn't mean that it has no relevance to the point.
look at that BC, the Clanns, we won something 100 years ago, man is agreeing with you.

That's how far you've gone!   :D

;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 05, 2008, 02:07:13 PM
Take your face for a shite Pints
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 05, 2008, 02:09:06 PM
Slabber slabber.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 05, 2008, 02:19:17 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 05, 2008, 02:09:06 PM
Slabber slabber.  ::)

Go away and complain to someone who cares. Grass up some poor sod trying to do his job...lol

I wonder how many men you have got the sack over the years...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 05, 2008, 02:22:21 PM
What are you on about, would you grow up for f**k sake, I'm sick listening to you. 
You made a mistake months ago and havent been man enough to admit it and you're mouthing at me since.
It's just boring at this stage. 
Dont bother replying.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 05, 2008, 02:40:39 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 05, 2008, 02:22:21 PM
What are you on about, would you grow up for f**k sake, I'm sick listening to you. 
You made a mistake months ago and havent been man enough to admit it and you're mouthing at me since.
It's just boring at this stage. 
Dont bother replying.

Oh you've really cut me to the bone...

Your the one who constantly rips the middle out of my club on every opportunity you get and i know most of the time your just throwing bait at me to bite but what do you want me to do sit back and let you ruin their good name. The reason i don't slate your club is because i don't give a flying f**k about them or anyone associated with them and if i have ever said anything about them it was just in retalation to your snide remarks about the Clans. So from now on when there is a dispute about clans and some other poster on here why don't you just mind your own business and leave it alone and then things will be fine better...

I know this kinda childish but maybe i'm 35 year old 15 stone kid...(no smart remarks full back ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on December 05, 2008, 02:45:18 PM
Quote from: illdecide on December 05, 2008, 02:40:39 PM

what do you want me to do sit back and let you ruin their good name


I know this kinda childish but maybe i'm 35 year old 15 stone kid...(no smart remarks full back ;))

:D :D
First comment in line for joke of the year

Second comment in line for lie of the year ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 05, 2008, 02:48:24 PM
Quote
Your the one who constantly rips the middle out of my club on every opportunity you get and i know most of the time your just throwing bait at me to bite but what do you want me to do sit back and let you ruin their good name.
Christ almighty.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 05, 2008, 02:51:57 PM
talk about riding illdecide, he doesnt like that  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 05, 2008, 02:59:09 PM
I know that was meant for the "Corny one for a Friday" thread but posted here by mistake. Fullback you take your face for a shite too :D

Maybe the 15 stone was a bit light ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on December 05, 2008, 03:20:43 PM
Anybody hear Jim Loughran got the Carrickcruppen managers job last night??

How long will he last?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on December 05, 2008, 03:33:58 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on December 05, 2008, 03:20:43 PM
Anybody hear Jim Loughran got the Carrickcruppen managers job last night??

How long will he last?

Rumour has it!!

Either he will gone by March or half the squad will.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 06, 2008, 12:50:45 PM
Good luck to Cross tomorrow...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: judas1 on December 06, 2008, 05:22:27 PM
Quote from: illdecide on December 06, 2008, 12:50:45 PM
Good luck to Cross tomorrow...
is the match on tv ?.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 06, 2008, 09:12:19 PM
Quote from: judas1 on December 06, 2008, 05:22:27 PM
Quote from: illdecide on December 06, 2008, 12:50:45 PM
Good luck to Cross tomorrow...
is the match on tv ?.

Yes the game is on TG4 live as is the Leinster Final between Kilmacud Crokes (Dublin) and Rhode (Offaly) with the first game commencing at 2.00pm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on December 07, 2008, 12:09:59 PM
Cross Match called off ...

Frozen Pitch

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on December 07, 2008, 12:26:17 PM
cross game is called off due to frozen pitch
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 07, 2008, 12:27:39 PM
I heard the Cross game has been called off, frozen pitch.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on December 07, 2008, 12:30:13 PM
Jim loughran getting the cruppen job is a backward step for that club.it will be good to see how many players are left at the end off the year still playing under him.He made a mess off a good club in dundalk and then just walked away.... Good luck to the players off cruppen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on December 07, 2008, 01:01:03 PM
rangers game off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 07, 2008, 01:04:44 PM
It is very clear that some folk don't read the post before them
Quote from: twotwocharlie on December 07, 2008, 01:01:03 PM
rangers game off
Quote from: pintsofguinness on December 07, 2008, 12:27:39 PM
I heard the Cross game has been called off, frozen pitch.

Quote from: back off the net on December 07, 2008, 12:26:17 PM
cross game is called off due to frozen pitch

Brilliant  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 07, 2008, 01:22:06 PM
I think one of us don't read before they post and the other two were being sarcastic.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on December 07, 2008, 01:25:23 PM
hi lads, the cross game is off, frozen pitch apparently  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 07, 2008, 11:23:47 PM
was that cross game of today?? a frozen pitch or something :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 08, 2008, 12:36:08 PM
Just on the board there and was wondering if anyone heard the result from the Cross match yesterday???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on December 08, 2008, 01:11:05 PM
I can give you all their results for the year if you really want to hear them. :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 08, 2008, 01:17:08 PM
leave out the clans one will ya crossfire ;) I don't think we will ever forget that one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on December 08, 2008, 04:24:07 PM
Were Cross playing at the weekend? I see TG4 chose to televise the Armagh-Kerry match instead. Armagh won by a point.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 08, 2008, 04:51:22 PM
Quote from: Donagh on December 08, 2008, 04:24:07 PM
Were Cross playing at the weekend? I see TG4 chose to televise the Armagh-Kerry match instead. Armagh won by a point.

What competiton was that in?  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 08, 2008, 05:16:34 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on December 08, 2008, 04:51:22 PM
Quote from: Donagh on December 08, 2008, 04:24:07 PM
Were Cross playing at the weekend? I see TG4 chose to televise the Armagh-Kerry match instead. Armagh won by a point.

What competiton was that in?  :P

That was the Jimmy McCrory cup...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 08, 2008, 05:29:33 PM
This thread has reached an all time low  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on December 09, 2008, 02:47:02 PM
Barring another draw, the distinction of bringing down the curtain on the
AIB GAA provincial senior club championship campaign for 2008 will fall to
Crossmaglen Rangers (Armagh) and Ballinderry (Derry) when they replay the
Ulster final in Enniskillen on Sunday.

Called off last Sunday due to the weather conditions, the sides will return
to Brewster Park for what promises to be another very exciting instalment.
Throw in will be 2.30 and extra-time will be played in the event of the
game again finishing level in ordinary time.

The winners will play Dromcollogher-Broadford (Limerick) in the All-Ireland
semi-final in February. The Limerick champions captured their first Munster
title with a one point victory over Kilmurry-Ibrickane of Clare in the
final last Sunday to spark off great celebrations in a club that has made
huge progress throughout this decade.

The other semi-final will feature Corofin (Galway) or Tir Chonaill Gaels
(London) against Kilmacud Crokes (Dublin). Kilmacud staged a great comeback
to beat Rhode (Offaly) in the Leinster final on Sunday. Corofin and Tir
Chonaill Gaels will play their quarter-final tie on January 18.


ULSTER SF CHAMPIONSHIP: THE HISTORY

AIB GAA Ulster SFC club: Where the titles have gone

6 - Crossmaglen Rangers (Armagh)
5 - Burren (Down)
4- Scotstown (Monaghan)
3 - Bellaghy (Derry)
3 - Clan na nGael (Armagh)
2 - Ballinderry (Derry)
2 - Castleblayney (Monaghan)
2 - St. Gall's (Antrim)
2 - Errigal Ciarain (Tyrone)
2 - Lavey (Derry)
1 - Ballerin (Derry)
1 - Bryansford (Down)
1 - Dungiven (Derry)
1 - Loup (Derry)
1 - Mullaghbawn (Armagh)
1- St. John's (Antrim)
1 - St.Joseph's (Donegal)
County breakdown: Armagh 10; Derry 10; Down 6; Monaghan 6; Antrim 3; Tyrone
2; Donegal 1; Cavan 0; Fermanagh 0.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on December 09, 2008, 02:51:09 PM
That's a pitiful return for tyrone
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 09, 2008, 03:13:58 PM
True enough but look at the performances of the Armagh and derry teams and then look at county all Irelands. Tells a lot about the setups of Tyrone development compared with the others. We are not transferring club success into county, in terms of the big prize.

Will that cross game be screened live again????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on December 09, 2008, 04:50:07 PM
Clans also won an Ulster in 1950 beating St.Johns Belast in the final. Although it was not the competition in its present form as it didnt go into an all ireland format, it was still fiercly contested. It was similar to how the Ulster minor club championship is played now. St. Johns invited each of the 9 county champions to play off and the winners received a solid gold medal. ( A huge deal in those days).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 09, 2008, 11:23:57 PM
You will often hear the older clans boys talking about the gold medal team. It should rightly be regarded in high esteem.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Old Bill on December 09, 2008, 11:47:28 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7774411.stm

Paddy og not very happy. PIty if he does go, seems good at his job.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 10, 2008, 11:05:35 AM
I'd like to see Mickey Mcgivern given his chance, a far better communicator and personality.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 10, 2008, 11:12:02 AM
Well, what do we think of the Club Allstars?

Irish News Armagh Club All stars – compiled by Joe McManus

1.Hearty (Cross)
2.Aidan McArdle (Middletown)
3.Michael Toner (Pearse Og)
4.Kevin Morris (Harps)
5.Aaron Kernan (Cross)
6.JD (Cross)
7.Paul Kernan (Cross)
8.Ciaran McKeever (Cullyhanna)
9.Kieran Toner (Granemore)
10.Eugen Casey (Cullyhanna)
11.John Mac Entee (Cross)
12.Joe Quigley (Harps)
13.Brendan McCann (Middletown)
14.Ronan Clarke (Ogs)
15.Oisin McConville (Cross)

Happy to see a couple of Harps boys on the team, Nippy, Philly McKinney and Kevin Kelly could probably count themselves unlucky for us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 10, 2008, 11:13:41 AM
useless
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 10, 2008, 12:45:59 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on December 10, 2008, 11:05:35 AM
I'd like to see Mickey Mcgivern given his chance, a far better communicator and personality.

Who is Mickey Mcgivern?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on December 10, 2008, 12:59:28 PM
Quote from: Old Bill on December 09, 2008, 11:47:28 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/7774411.stm

Paddy og not very happy. PIty if he does go, seems good at his job.

He'll be no loss, personally i think the man is a tool
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on December 10, 2008, 01:04:54 PM
Surely Malachy Mackin outshone Ciaran Mc Keever for Cullyhanna in the championship this year, and how come Killeavy have no representative seeing they made it to the senior semi final and put it up to the Ogs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 10, 2008, 01:16:05 PM
Quote from: crossfire on December 10, 2008, 01:04:54 PM
Surely Malachy Mackin outshone Ciaran Mc Keever for Cullyhanna in the championship this year, and how come Killeavy have no representative seeing they made it to the senior semi final and put it up to the Ogs.

The only player that really stood out for them was Gary Reel.

Only saw a couple of games, but as Benny says, Kelly can feel hard done by.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bud on December 10, 2008, 01:43:30 PM
not being disrepectful here or anything but who are the two boys from middletown?
Who exactly picked this team?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on December 10, 2008, 02:07:16 PM
They probably have to pick players from All 3 c'ships and obviously Middletown won the junior
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 10, 2008, 03:17:40 PM
Has the U21 county draw been made, when does it be played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 10, 2008, 04:04:09 PM
Quote from: Armagh Exile on December 10, 2008, 12:45:59 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on December 10, 2008, 11:05:35 AM
I'd like to see Mickey Mcgivern given his chance, a far better communicator and personality.

Who is Mickey Mcgivern?

Has been Mid Sec for donkeys, been Asst Sec to Patrick Og for the past year or two.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bluegold on December 10, 2008, 10:16:33 PM
New Culloville G.A.C. Website


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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 10, 2008, 11:56:39 PM
Quote1.Hearty (Cross)
2.Aidan McArdle (Middletown)
3.Michael Toner (Pearse Og)
4.Kevin Morris (Harps)
5.Aaron Kernan (Cross)
6.JD (Cross)
7.Paul Kernan (Cross)
8.Ciaran McKeever (Cullyhanna)
9.Kieran Toner (Granemore)
10.Eugen Casey (Cullyhanna)
11.John Mac Entee (Cross)
12.Joe Quigley (Harps)
13.Brendan McCann (Middletown)
14.Ronan Clarke (Ogs)
15.Oisin McConville (Cross)

Seems a strange enough team but then its hard to know what they're looking for. Personally I think they should have just picked players who aren't on the county panel. Not sure if league and championship performances were supposed to be taken into account.

Tony McEntee is probably unfortunate enough. From my own club, as far as I was concerned, Mal mackin was definetely our best player this year so I'd have expected to see him on the team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 11, 2008, 10:04:40 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 10, 2008, 11:56:39 PM
Quote1.Hearty (Cross)
2.Aidan McArdle (Middletown)
3.Michael Toner (Pearse Og)
4.Kevin Morris (Harps)
5.Aaron Kernan (Cross)
6.JD (Cross)
7.Paul Kernan (Cross)
8.Ciaran McKeever (Cullyhanna)
9.Kieran Toner (Granemore)
10.Eugen Casey (Cullyhanna)
11.John Mac Entee (Cross)
12.Joe Quigley (Harps)
13.Brendan McCann (Middletown)
14.Ronan Clarke (Ogs)
15.Oisin McConville (Cross)

Seems a strange enough team but then its hard to know what they're looking for. Personally I think they should have just picked players who aren't on the county panel. Not sure if league and championship performances were supposed to be taken into account.

Tony McEntee is probably unfortunate enough. From my own club, as far as I was concerned, Mal mackin was definetely our best player this year so I'd have expected to see him on the team.

Agree and disagree. I did not see much, so I don't know about the team, but it does seem to have a fair mix. I don't think  the county players should be excluded because it would defeat the purpose for me.However, some of the county picks seemed to go solely on their county season, which also defeats the purpose.

At least it gives us something to debate at this quiet time. Didn't see Dromintee v Cross but I heard that Vincey Martin destroyed Cross, so if Toner is in for one big show, Vince can feel hard done by too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on December 11, 2008, 10:13:24 AM
If league performances count then nudie huges from keady should be there.

the fact that thee are picked by "writes joe mcmanus" makes them a satire and more of a stain on your cv than an accolade!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hound of ulster on December 11, 2008, 11:20:21 AM
Hello lads , just joined up, I'm just testing how things work. sorry for interrupting your thread
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 11, 2008, 11:33:12 AM
Quote from: hound of ulster on December 11, 2008, 11:20:21 AM
Hello lads , just joined up, I'm just testing how things work. sorry for interrupting your thread


You alright Hound, we won't be too wuff on ya!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 11, 2008, 03:41:38 PM
Quote from: AFS on December 11, 2008, 03:19:26 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 11, 2008, 10:04:40 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 10, 2008, 11:56:39 PM
Quote1.Hearty (Cross)
2.Aidan McArdle (Middletown)
3.Michael Toner (Pearse Og)
4.Kevin Morris (Harps)
5.Aaron Kernan (Cross)
6.JD (Cross)
7.Paul Kernan (Cross)
8.Ciaran McKeever (Cullyhanna)
9.Kieran Toner (Granemore)
10.Eugen Casey (Cullyhanna)
11.John Mac Entee (Cross)
12.Joe Quigley (Harps)
13.Brendan McCann (Middletown)
14.Ronan Clarke (Ogs)
15.Oisin McConville (Cross)

Seems a strange enough team but then its hard to know what they're looking for. Personally I think they should have just picked players who aren't on the county panel. Not sure if league and championship performances were supposed to be taken into account.

Tony McEntee is probably unfortunate enough. From my own club, as far as I was concerned, Mal mackin was definetely our best player this year so I'd have expected to see him on the team.

Agree and disagree. I did not see much, so I don't know about the team, but it does seem to have a fair mix. I don't think  the county players should be excluded because it would defeat the purpose for me.However, some of the county picks seemed to go solely on their county season, which also defeats the purpose.

At least it gives us something to debate at this quiet time. Didn't see Dromintee v Cross but I heard that Vincey Martin destroyed Cross, so if Toner is in for one big show, Vince can feel hard done by too.

He did alright in that game, but thats a massive exaggeration.

Numerous non-Dromintee people told me he destroyed them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 11, 2008, 04:29:31 PM
Quote from: AFS on December 11, 2008, 03:19:26 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 11, 2008, 10:04:40 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 10, 2008, 11:56:39 PM
Quote1.Hearty (Cross)
2.Aidan McArdle (Middletown)
3.Michael Toner (Pearse Og)
4.Kevin Morris (Harps)
5.Aaron Kernan (Cross)
6.JD (Cross)
7.Paul Kernan (Cross)
8.Ciaran McKeever (Cullyhanna)
9.Kieran Toner (Granemore)
10.Eugen Casey (Cullyhanna)
11.John Mac Entee (Cross)
12.Joe Quigley (Harps)
13.Brendan McCann (Middletown)
14.Ronan Clarke (Ogs)
15.Oisin McConville (Cross)

Seems a strange enough team but then its hard to know what they're looking for. Personally I think they should have just picked players who aren't on the county panel. Not sure if league and championship performances were supposed to be taken into account.

Tony McEntee is probably unfortunate enough. From my own club, as far as I was concerned, Mal mackin was definetely our best player this year so I'd have expected to see him on the team.

Agree and disagree. I did not see much, so I don't know about the team, but it does seem to have a fair mix. I don't think  the county players should be excluded because it would defeat the purpose for me.However, some of the county picks seemed to go solely on their county season, which also defeats the purpose.

At least it gives us something to debate at this quiet time. Didn't see Dromintee v Cross but I heard that Vincey Martin destroyed Cross, so if Toner is in for one big show, Vince can feel hard done by too.

He did alright in that game, but thats a massive exaggeration.

corn, to suggest that someone "destroyed" us would suggest that we were beaten.  He may have played well, and "destroyed" the man he was being marked by, but to say he "destroyed" the team is a tad over the top.  BTW, is he fit and ready for the Ulster replay on Sunday? :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 11, 2008, 04:58:04 PM
Boom boom. A player can destroy his man perhaps and run riot, but if 10 or 11 others don't it is possible that they can come out on the wrong side. Meehan against Kerry being a perfect example. It was a non-point anyway, just going on what a few people told me, they said he had a field day. Toner had a field day against Ogs and got on , and also came out on the wrong side may I hasten toadd, and was included.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 11, 2008, 05:59:25 PM
The fact that Vincey only got the one game probably did him no favours in this case, he had a horse of a game against Cross that day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 11, 2008, 09:58:35 PM
Horse of a game might be better description than destroyed them then.  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 12, 2008, 09:38:59 AM
That's better corn, now you know your place in the grand scheme of things :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 12, 2008, 10:04:00 AM
Not really much difference between the two, but keeps yous quiet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on December 12, 2008, 10:09:07 AM
Am taking it BC you will be up for the game on Sunday then?

Tough one to call,  Will be interesting to see if Ballinderry played that bad the first day and got out of jail, or Cross let it slip.  My feelings are that if it's the latter, they will finish the job properly on Sunday!

Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 12, 2008, 10:13:23 AM
I can't make it.  I was away for the weekend last weekend, and this weekend we have friends coming on Sunday.  A beer and shoes thrown at the TV will be the plan. 

It will be tight with only a score in it.  A lot will depend on how Cross approach the game.  The build up from both games is understated and it is hard to read.

It makes no odds in the long run as Kilmacud have the All Ireland wrapped up anyway ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on December 13, 2008, 08:40:59 PM
Herard on the grapevine that Enda Muldoon will not be playing tomorrow after breaking a bone in his foot after jumping out of a lorry and landing awkardly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on December 14, 2008, 02:07:24 AM
Unfortunate, another few weeks and all those customs boys will have been laid off...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on December 15, 2008, 10:19:31 AM
Looking at Crossmaglen yesterday,  you would have to think that they will have 3 or 4 more boys on the county panel which I dont think are there.  2 McKeowns, Mickey McNamee.  Think that Jamie Clarke will not be too long out of it either.  A lad with excellent potential!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on December 15, 2008, 10:40:02 AM
Quote from: Joxer on December 15, 2008, 10:19:31 AM
Looking at Crossmaglen yesterday,  you would have to think that they will have 3 or 4 more boys on the county panel which I dont think are there.  2 McKeowns, Mickey McNamee.  Think that Jamie Clarke will not be too long out of it either.  A lad with excellent potential!

looking at cross- i was disgusted with the dirt- especially the giner bellew sc**bag
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on December 15, 2008, 10:44:32 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on December 15, 2008, 10:40:02 AM
Quote from: Joxer on December 15, 2008, 10:19:31 AM
Looking at Crossmaglen yesterday,  you would have to think that they will have 3 or 4 more boys on the county panel which I dont think are there.  2 McKeowns, Mickey McNamee.  Think that Jamie Clarke will not be too long out of it either.  A lad with excellent potential!

looking at cross- i was disgusted with the dirt- especially the giner bellew sc**bag

personnally i think calling a fellow gael a sc**bag is rather disturbing. you see it week in week out on the premiership where fans insult players and their families. shocking behaviour.
lets not let it creep into our national game!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on December 15, 2008, 10:51:06 AM
Congrats to Cross, yest....The courage and bravery was second to none, born winners...what ever they have in terms of attitude, if you could bottle it, you would make a fortune...

was thinking after the game of all these county teams paying big bucks for sports psychologists etc.. if you want to see the perfect example of mind frame, jus take a look at these boys.....

best of look with the all-ireland now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on December 15, 2008, 10:51:21 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on December 15, 2008, 10:40:02 AM
Quote from: Joxer on December 15, 2008, 10:19:31 AM
Looking at Crossmaglen yesterday,  you would have to think that they will have 3 or 4 more boys on the county panel which I dont think are there.  2 McKeowns, Mickey McNamee.  Think that Jamie Clarke will not be too long out of it either.  A lad with excellent potential!

looking at cross- i was disgusted with the dirt- especially the giner bellew sc**bag

Must be on the buckfast again ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on December 15, 2008, 10:52:42 AM
Congrats to Cross, yest....The courage and bravery was second to none, born winners...what ever they have in terms of attitude, if you could bottle it, you would make a fortune...

was thinking after the game of all these county teams paying big bucks for sports psychologists etc.. if you want to see the perfect example of mind frame, jus take a look at these boys.....

best of luck with the all-ireland now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on December 15, 2008, 10:58:06 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on December 15, 2008, 10:40:02 AM
Quote from: Joxer on December 15, 2008, 10:19:31 AM
Looking at Crossmaglen yesterday,  you would have to think that they will have 3 or 4 more boys on the county panel which I dont think are there.  2 McKeowns, Mickey McNamee.  Think that Jamie Clarke will not be too long out of it either.  A lad with excellent potential!

looking at cross- i was disgusted with the dirt- especially the giner bellew sc**bag

Not nice, not nice at all gaapunter, if you were so disgusted you should have turned it over and watched eastenders or something
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: judas1 on December 15, 2008, 12:34:04 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on December 15, 2008, 10:40:02 AM
Quote from: Joxer on December 15, 2008, 10:19:31 AM
Looking at Crossmaglen yesterday,  you would have to think that they will have 3 or 4 more boys on the county panel which I dont think are there.  2 McKeowns, Mickey McNamee.  Think that Jamie Clarke will not be too long out of it either.  A lad with excellent potential!

looking at cross- i was disgusted with the dirt- especially the giner bellew sc**bag
catch a f***ing grip punter.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on December 15, 2008, 12:39:27 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on December 15, 2008, 10:58:06 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on December 15, 2008, 10:40:02 AM
Quote from: Joxer on December 15, 2008, 10:19:31 AM
Looking at Crossmaglen yesterday,  you would have to think that they will have 3 or 4 more boys on the county panel which I dont think are there.  2 McKeowns, Mickey McNamee.  Think that Jamie Clarke will not be too long out of it either.  A lad with excellent potential!

looking at cross- i was disgusted with the dirt- especially the giner bellew sc**bag

Not nice, not nice at all gaapunter, if you were so disgusted you should have turned it over and watched eastenders or something


Take the blinkers off lads- Cross tactics were a disgrace and give Armagh football a bad name- or is ok to clearly head butt a fellow player in view of the ref- who was a total joke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on December 15, 2008, 01:24:15 PM
Their tactics weren't dirty.  You are talking about an isolated incident. Brian McGuckin punched Bellew in the stomach and Bellew threw his head back. They probably both should have walked.

Watch it again tg4.tv and go to 17 mins 5 seconds.  McGuckin hit him a box.

Not condoning either but he didn't do it out of the blue!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on December 15, 2008, 01:26:21 PM
Also have a look at 17:50 or so.  Ballinderrys tactics weren't very sporting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on December 15, 2008, 01:35:39 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on December 15, 2008, 01:24:15 PM
Their tactics weren't dirty.  You are talking about an isolated incident. Brian McGuckin punched Bellew in the stomach and Bellew threw his head back. They probably both should have walked.

Watch it again tg4.tv and go to 17 mins 5 seconds.  McGuckin hit him a box.

Not condoning either but he didn't do it out of the blue!

Lets get it straight, Brian McGuckin never was or never shall be an angel.

Punching Bellew, if your going to play with fire your going to get burnt, unless your Sean Cavanagh who just dropped a gear and flattened Francie into the carpet that is Croke Park!!

Views expressed above are the views of Final Whistle, not any organisations related to Final Whistle just Final Whistle himself!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on December 15, 2008, 01:43:47 PM
Just to point out, I have nothing against McGuckin either, but he DID strike which is why bellew reacted.  If you send one off you send both off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 15, 2008, 01:58:17 PM
I agree with what you  lads are saying about calling people scumbags it shouldn't happen. but lets be honest what Francie done in the 7th minute was also disturbing. He should have got the line. Ballinderry where no saints either but and they were involved as where cross in a few off the ball incidents. If you ask me Ballinderry played into the hands of cross by trying to get physical with them and in all honesty Ballinderry lacked the fire power up front. The back line probably done all they could to contain cross. Ballinderry secured enough possession but just ran out of ideas. They had no one to take points from 30 or 40 yards out which was again meat and drink to the cross because lets be honest they are the masters at close marking and closing teams out. I have said it before the only way to beat cross is to get the ball wide  upset their defensive unit and have the proper men in the proper positiions that can take scores from 30 or 40 yards. Trying to walk it is with wee small men just won't work. All in all the cross where far superior on both days in my opinion. They where clinical up front and never showed any signs of pressure even when Ballinderry did draw level. So well done the cross for securing another Ulster title and now equaling the record of the clans  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 15, 2008, 02:05:19 PM
Bad act surely, but no excuse for the name calling, a bit of a  joke.

Btw anyone who insults Bellew, that is  like slapping Sidfelines mother in the face, his biggest fan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on December 15, 2008, 02:13:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 15, 2008, 02:05:19 PM
Bad act surely, but no excuse for the name calling, a bit of a  joke.

Btw anyone who insults Bellew, that is  like slapping Sidfelines mother in the face, his biggest fan.

Corn without her I would have no clean kit or money for a packet of crisps after the match  :D

I thought Ballinderry would have learned from the last day not to try and mix it.  You can't get physical with Cross and expect to come off better than them!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on December 15, 2008, 03:55:35 PM
I was bitterly dissappointed with Ballinderry - how they even won a Derry championship is beyond me. They couldnt even hold on to the ball never mind shoot. Derry football must not be what its supposed to be. Fair play to Cross though. They must be a cert for the All Ireland Kilmacuds look rubbish too! Armagh football isnt that bad - Cross alwyas have harder matches in it than Ulster!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on December 15, 2008, 03:58:25 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on December 15, 2008, 03:55:35 PM
I was bitterly dissappointed with Ballinderry - how they even won a Derry championship is beyond me. They couldnt even hold on to the ball never mind shoot. Derry football must not be what its supposed to be. Fair play to Cross though. They must be a cert for the All Ireland Kilmacuds look rubbish too! Armagh football isnt that bad - Cross alwyas have harder matches in it than Ulster!  :D

Unfortunately your wrong. According to The IN today Murtagh only started training at a slight pre season level (one night a week) on the run up to the Ogs final. Cross have not even peaked yet. I worry for the remaining Armagh clubs, will they ever get a sniff of it again???  :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 15, 2008, 04:39:49 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on December 15, 2008, 03:58:25 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on December 15, 2008, 03:55:35 PM
I was bitterly dissappointed with Ballinderry - how they even won a Derry championship is beyond me. They couldnt even hold on to the ball never mind shoot. Derry football must not be what its supposed to be. Fair play to Cross though. They must be a cert for the All Ireland Kilmacuds look rubbish too! Armagh football isnt that bad - Cross alwyas have harder matches in it than Ulster!  :D

Unfortunately your wrong. According to The IN today Murtagh only started training at a slight pre season level (one night a week) on the run up to the Ogs final. Cross have not even peaked yet. I worry for the remaining Armagh clubs, will they ever get a sniff of it again???  :-\ :-\ :-\
He didn't mention the Ogs Final, he said from 'earlier in the year', training one night a week and turning up for league games at the weekend, so he's clearly referring to the early part of the season.  He pretty much said the same thing last year too, a bit dismissive of Armagh clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on December 15, 2008, 05:08:22 PM
Typical arrogant cross if he came out with those comments. As everyone knows, cross get a lot of very dubious decisions and favors from the officical and eegits we call a county board. Count the fact that they contected the last 6-7 years of county finals on their home pitch, sure where else would you get it.... They were hanging on for dear life against the Harps. I agree though, its time all the other clubs in the countyb started stepping up to the mark

Fine win for them yesterday, beat themselves getting involved in all the physical stuff. Referee again was attrocious
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 15, 2008, 05:12:47 PM
well the fella in question is a very arrogant individual in many respects.

But there are a lot of teams that start of the season with one night a week and then build it up slowly over a period of time. That's ok if you are into that sort of thing but i see the game in simple terms. This talk of teams peaking has appeared over the last decade and i think teams and setups can get a little too carried away with it. Sometimes they focus more on this"peaking " that the actual performance on the football field. I think the peaking talk is an easy way out for teams that are just not good enough and are looking for another chance. I am a firm believer in the tried and tested ie what has bred success in the past will eventual work again. It is just a matter of having the right men at the helm. Now by all means they will have to adopt and come into line with modern fitness levels and other issues but i don't think they should get caught up in the whole professionalism that seems to have gripped the sport.Cross where probably the first team to bring the professionalism into the game. But they never strayed from the values that they have always had, they combined it in a very clever way . Armagh then followed suit under the guidance of Kernan and you have to say some of the things got a little rediculous and sometimes football took a back seat. I think it should be kept simple it makes life easier for the players and doesn't put as much pressure on them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on December 15, 2008, 07:01:34 PM
I'm pretty sure if the Bellew incident had have happened in the 47th minute rather than the 7th he would have got the line.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 15, 2008, 07:53:37 PM
What's the issue about what Donal said.  He had 10 players away with Armagh, and a commited bunch of lads doing their own training.  They worked on fitness up till the start of August with one tough session a week, knowing full well that there was no big pressure as there was no championship till then.  It didn't really affect their playing as they cruised to the league! He had faith in his squad that they would look after themselves, which they obviously did. It won Tyrone an AI, so why shouldn't follow a successful system.

They were training 2 nights a week from the start of August.  Whether or not they were on the ropes against the HArps is history now.  The Harps lost, and that is that, as did the Ogs, as did the Clans.  The way some people go on you'd swear Cross have an obligation to let someone else win "for the good of the county" and that the officials are "bad" and corrupt in their efforts to keep Cross winning.  The simple fact is that of the 100 odd championship matches that Cross have won in Armagh only half a dozen or so have been in Cross.  What were the excuses for the rest of them.  Get over yourselves, the chips are getting bigger by each game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: aroundincircles on December 15, 2008, 08:19:33 PM
I think credit where credit is due cross probaly the best club team ever the best i have seen anyway no matter who "run them close or who could have beat  them" does not matter this team and club have some bunch of talent with an attitude on the field any man on here would be proud of if it was his club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on December 15, 2008, 08:22:35 PM

Difficult to define the greatest club team in this instance as the cross team now has changed massively from say 96, when people regard "this team" as having begun.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: aroundincircles on December 15, 2008, 08:40:27 PM
Best club in ireland??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 15, 2008, 09:34:40 PM
It is without a doubt Cross at the moment though the all ireland club trophy would say differently well up until march anyway :D :D. But it is hard to compare them with older teams as i was only a twinkle in the eye. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Erwin Rommel on December 16, 2008, 12:02:56 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on December 15, 2008, 10:40:02 AM
Quote from: Joxer on December 15, 2008, 10:19:31 AM
Looking at Crossmaglen yesterday,  you would have to think that they will have 3 or 4 more boys on the county panel which I dont think are there.  2 McKeowns, Mickey McNamee.  Think that Jamie Clarke will not be too long out of it either.  A lad with excellent potential!

looking at cross- i was disgusted with the dirt- especially the giner bellew sc**bag

die your eyes you big baby - you wouldnt do so much crying if he played for killeavey    >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 16, 2008, 10:05:30 AM
To speak about dirt and to be from Killeavy is another contradiction in my book :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on December 16, 2008, 10:20:54 AM
Lets all be honest hear - Bellew Definately should have been sent off a headbutt is a headbutt and deserves a red card FULL STOP!

Mcguckin was niggling at Bellew and what he did just about registers as a strike and strickly speaking he should have went also.

However What Bellew done was definately alot worse, provoked or not, and thankfully is rarely seen on a Gaelic field. Unfortunately the sly dig McGuckin used is a very common thing in Ulster football and is rarely a red card, although it should be.

BTW Calling Francie a Sc**bag is out of order and shouldnt happen. He was well out of line and I would say he will be punished for it after the event and has to deal with that personal insults of that nature help nobody.

Congratulations to Cross a fine performance and deserving winners of the title. Hope they go on and do Ulster proud in the AI series.  SF opponents look poor TBH and Crokes are no bigh shakes but sure as we all know its all on the day and anything can happen in Championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 16, 2008, 11:53:05 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 15, 2008, 07:53:37 PM
What's the issue about what Donal said.  He had 10 players away with Armagh, and a commited bunch of lads doing their own training.  They worked on fitness up till the start of August with one tough session a week, knowing full well that there was no big pressure as there was no championship till then.  It didn't really affect their playing as they cruised to the league! He had faith in his squad that they would look after themselves, which they obviously did. It won Tyrone an AI, so why shouldn't follow a successful system.

They were training 2 nights a week from the start of August.  Whether or not they were on the ropes against the HArps is history now.  The Harps lost, and that is that, as did the Ogs, as did the Clans.  The way some people go on you'd swear Cross have an obligation to let someone else win "for the good of the county" and that the officials are "bad" and corrupt in their efforts to keep Cross winning.  The simple fact is that of the 100 odd championship matches that Cross have won in Armagh only half a dozen or so have been in Cross.  What were the excuses for the rest of them.  Get over yourselves, the chips are getting bigger by each game.


Bit of an overreaction there BC.

I think a lot of the anti-Murtagh stuff would come after last year's run when he stated something along the lines that he would rest the big players for the Armagh Championship. Of course it was good enough, but disrespectful all the same.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 16, 2008, 01:25:32 PM
Any changes or news from the Armagh Convention last night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on December 16, 2008, 01:46:52 PM
I dont consider Cross decision to train one night a week for a few months arrogant I consider it good management. You cant train your team half to death all year and expect to be fresh for big games. Which is more important training or matches? Unfortunately I think whats wrong with football is people put too much emphasis on training etc. I know a club that only trianed one night for six weeks and were winning all round them, they then stepped it up to two nights plus intensive training weekends in the build up to a big game and were obliterated! ;) ;) No prizes for guessing who it was. In my opinion if you were able to play well on a Sunday then you wouldnt have to train at all!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on December 16, 2008, 03:35:14 PM

And how would you manage to play well on a sunday if you never trained?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on December 16, 2008, 04:16:59 PM
I was being hypothetical son I wasnt suggesting teams dont train!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on December 16, 2008, 04:20:04 PM
Were you being hypothetical as well when you were speaking about the Clans training one night a week & winning all round them? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on December 16, 2008, 05:25:09 PM
They won 4 or 5 league games on the trot round the middle of the season I think and this coincided with them training once a week. So no I wasnt being hypothetical there son but nice of you to ask. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 16, 2008, 08:34:41 PM
Quote from: AFS on December 16, 2008, 07:27:22 PM
Guys, seeing since the new intercounty season is just over a fortnight away and there has been no news to the contrary, would it be safe to assume that there aren't going to be anymore retirements from the county team?

Was a bit of speculation in the Irish News today that Francie might retire. Probably won't know for certain until after Cross are out.

Are McGrane and Aidan O'Rourke definetly staying on?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 17, 2008, 09:34:35 AM
Heard Pedar Toal is back on board, given his weights programme for the Winter.  Nippy isn't going back AFAIK.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 17, 2008, 10:35:11 AM
Yeah apparently Francie took a bad knock to the back of the head :D and he is suffering from amnesia so he has forgot he has ever won an All Ireland. So he is going to play now till he is fifty and take some young lads place.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on December 17, 2008, 10:40:22 AM
Anyone get the Armagh year book? (or whatever its called)
Is it out in shops yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 17, 2008, 11:02:57 AM
Yeah got a copy.  It's excellent, well worth a £10er for anyone who's got an interest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on December 17, 2008, 02:28:02 PM
From the convention Eddie Hughes takes over as vice chairman from Ollie Hearty...went to a vote from what i heard....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 17, 2008, 02:48:53 PM
Is he the Cross delegate?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on December 17, 2008, 07:36:29 PM
I read in yesterdays Irish News that Paady heaney believes that Cross Rangers will be around for another year or two. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on December 18, 2008, 09:03:12 AM
Quote from: Real1995 on December 17, 2008, 02:28:02 PM
From the convention Eddie Hughes takes over as vice chairman from Ollie Hearty...went to a vote from what i heard....

Oh I'd say that went down well in the "Inner Circle"!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on December 18, 2008, 11:29:13 AM

I'd welcome Eddie hughes getting involved in county affairs. its been a closed shop for years with no new ideas and at least hughes is something different
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 18, 2008, 11:54:18 AM
Eddie is a mover and did an awful lot for Cross.  He ran the ship very well and without his administrative foresight, there may not have been as much success in Cross.  I for one think he will make a huge contribution to the county board and I wish him the best.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 18, 2008, 02:04:51 PM
Can't say I know Hughes, but as Uladhs says, fresh ideas, fresh approach.

The county board should be congratulated for the yearbook.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on December 18, 2008, 04:25:00 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on December 17, 2008, 09:34:35 AM
Heard Pedar Toal is back on board, given his weights programme for the Winter.  Nippy isn't going back AFAIK.

Whats wrong Nippy aint going back?

Good to see P Toal back on Board
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Exile on December 18, 2008, 08:22:25 PM
Eddie will definently shake the Armagh Management Committee up a bit.
He is one of the very few in the Armagh County Board who is not afraid to question the 'top-table'.
Congratulations Eddie.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on December 18, 2008, 08:43:39 PM
Was in the Gazette this week that Peadar Toal was going for a trial at Crewe.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 19, 2008, 09:27:12 AM
Only heard about Peadar's trials last night, meant to be a couple of lower league teams interested in him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bud on December 19, 2008, 03:19:34 PM
Any word of when a McKenna cup panel will be named?
Does anyone know how the trials went and who performed well?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on December 20, 2008, 01:01:01 PM
The observer had a very one sided view of the Cross game. I know it's an Armagh paper but the journalism from Joe was very poor!! Cross are no angels and it's a bit rich of Joe slagging off Ballinderry's tactics
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on December 20, 2008, 10:31:07 PM
Were you at the game Ogs Head. ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh4SamAgain on December 21, 2008, 11:52:37 AM
it was all give an take IMO.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on December 21, 2008, 03:26:13 PM
Quote from: bud on December 19, 2008, 03:19:34 PM
Any word of when a McKenna cup panel will be named?
Does anyone know how the trials went and who performed well?

its in this weeks gaelic life!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on December 21, 2008, 10:55:08 PM
Ciaran McKinney retired from the nets. With Hearty out with XMG, that leaves Lissummon lad Rodgers in goal for McKenna Cup and probably the NFL?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 21, 2008, 11:02:28 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 21, 2008, 10:55:08 PM
Ciaran McKinney retired from the nets. With Hearty out with XMG, that leaves Lissummon lad Rodgers in goal for McKenna Cup and probably the NFL?

Where did you hear this? Wouldn't be too confident in thon boy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 21, 2008, 11:31:51 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 21, 2008, 10:55:08 PM
Ciaran McKinney retired from the nets. With Hearty out with XMG, that leaves Lissummon lad Rodgers in goal for McKenna Cup and probably the NFL?

He has indeed.

There is another keeper on the panel though, a bloody good one too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 21, 2008, 11:56:45 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 21, 2008, 10:55:08 PM
Ciaran McKinney retired from the nets. With Hearty out with XMG, that leaves Lissummon lad Rodgers in goal for McKenna Cup and probably the NFL?

Disappointed to hear that. Always thought McKinney deserved a run in the side at some stage. There's not a lot between himself and Hearty with both prone to the odd error but I'd have had a slight preference for McKinney.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on December 22, 2008, 12:02:47 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 21, 2008, 11:56:45 PM
Quote from: Orior on December 21, 2008, 10:55:08 PM
Ciaran McKinney retired from the nets. With Hearty out with XMG, that leaves Lissummon lad Rodgers in goal for McKenna Cup and probably the NFL?

Disappointed to hear that. Always thought McKinney deserved a run in the side at some stage. There's not a lot between himself and Hearty with both prone to the odd error but I'd have had a slight preference for McKinney.

Agreed on that TAC. Very sorry to hear Ciaran has pulled the pin. He had started off his county career in great style, playing a few Ulster Championship matches and playing very well. He then lost it in tragic circumstances, missing a couiple of matches after his father lost his life in an accident. Ciaran never really re-established himself after that.

The tragedy that befell the family obviously puts the ups and downs of his County career into proper perspective. However Ciaran McKinney remains a classy keeper and is a gentleman to boot! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 22, 2008, 12:12:25 AM
Agreed.

Rodgers and McEvoy now fighting for his place.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on December 22, 2008, 09:02:46 AM
Realistically I think if it is going to be anyone, it will be McEvoy.

All depends on Cross.  They should still be there on St Patricks Day so therefore there wont be too many changes to this panel for the NFL.  As with all the other counties, I would hope to see fringe players get a chance and more attacking brand of football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 22, 2008, 09:22:41 AM
Quote from: Joxer on December 22, 2008, 09:02:46 AM
Realistically I think if it is going to be anyone, it will be McEvoy.

All depends on Cross.  They should still be there on St Patricks Day so therefore there wont be too many changes to this panel for the NFL.  As with all the other counties, I would hope to see fringe players get a chance and more attacking brand of football.

Yeah I have been championing him for a while now. I would imagine he will be first choice in the NFL/McKENNA.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 22, 2008, 11:40:05 AM
What do we think of the panel overall?

At least Henderson will be given a shot to see if the talk is justified.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on December 22, 2008, 11:53:15 AM
What talk has there been about Henderson?

Will be interesting to see how many of the fringe players he uses?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on December 22, 2008, 12:31:07 PM
Gr8 to see Philly gettin a call up corn,

jus shows again that if your playin well for ur club, its does matter what age you are or if you played for any underage armagh team, mcdonnell will giv u a chance...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 22, 2008, 12:55:29 PM
Quote from: Joxer on December 22, 2008, 11:53:15 AM
What talk has there been about Henderson?

Will be interesting to see how many of the fringe players he uses?

Henderson has been posting massive tallies for years, albeit in lower leagues. Good to se him get a shot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 22, 2008, 12:57:37 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on December 22, 2008, 12:31:07 PM
Gr8 to see Philly gettin a call up corn,

jus shows again that if your playin well for ur club, its does matter what age you are or if you played for any underage armagh team, mcdonnell will giv u a chance...

Certainly is great to see Real. He impressed in the McKenna Cup a few years back.

McDonnell certainly seems to be casting the net far and wide, should be appluaded for that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 22, 2008, 12:59:53 PM
No Toal, he must be going for the soccer big style. Disappointed, a cracking player.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Old Bill on December 22, 2008, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 22, 2008, 12:59:53 PM
No Toal, he must be going for the soccer big style. Disappointed, a cracking player.
Was never dying bout toal corn. Seemed to be hot and cold and anytime i seen him he was always cold. Bit of a moonman aswell. Good luck to him with the soccer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 22, 2008, 02:43:19 PM
Quote from: Old Bill on December 22, 2008, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 22, 2008, 12:59:53 PM
No Toal, he must be going for the soccer big style. Disappointed, a cracking player.
Was never dying bout toal corn. Seemed to be hot and cold and anytime i seen him he was always cold. Bit of a moonman aswell. Good luck to him with the soccer.

As far as I know he preferred the road bowls, anytime I seen him he was fantastic (at football not bowls).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 22, 2008, 03:44:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on December 21, 2008, 11:34:43 PM
What ever became of Ballyhegan's Johnny McKeever? Saved a peno in Croker. Got on BBC and all.

loves the rip. if he drops the ball the way he drops pints i'd be concerned
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on December 22, 2008, 06:03:47 PM
Has anyone got a list of the panel for the NFL?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 22, 2008, 07:33:12 PM
This is for the McKenna Cup:

Ronan Austin (Clan Na Gael)
Conor Clarke (Pearse Og)
Ronan Clarke (Pearse Og)
Brendan Donaghy (Clonmore)
J P Donnelly (Pearse Og)
Joe Feeney (Madden)
Ryan Henderson (Clann Eireann)
James Lavery (Maghery)
Malachy Mackin (St Patrick's)
Brian Mallon (Tir na nÓg)
Vincent Martin (Dromintee)
Finnian Moriarty (Wolfe Tone)
Tony McClelland (Granemore)
Barry McDonald (Tir na nÓg)
Eugene McDonnell (Keady)
Philip McElroy (Dromintee)
Ciaran McKeever (St Patrick's)
Paddy McKeever (Ballyhegan)
Shane O'Neill (Dromintee)
Aidan O'Rourke (Dromintee)
Kevin O'Rourke (St Michael's)
Martin O'Rourke (Dromintee)
Micheal O'Rourke (Dromintee)
Neil O'Rourke (St Michael's)
Chris Rafferty (Pearse Og)
Paudie Rodgers (Lissummon)
Barry Shannon (Dromintee)
Gareth Smyth (Mullaghbawn)
Barry Toner (Granemore)
Kieran Toner (Granemore)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 22, 2008, 07:57:18 PM
Glad to see Chris Rafferty from the Og's get a wee chance at senior level  seen him play at minor level and over the year with his club and he has always been steady. Not to mention a complete gentleman to boot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 23, 2008, 10:52:40 AM
Thought there would be a bit more debate on here about it.

No Harps men I see. I thought Morrison was going to get a run, I take it Kelly did not get a trial?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on December 23, 2008, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 23, 2008, 10:52:40 AM
Thought there would be a bit more debate on here about it.

No Harps men I see. I thought Morrison was going to get a run, I take it Kelly did not get a trial?


I doubt AFS is on his holidays, he's normally a good man for this type of thing. Would like to have seen both Kelly and Swift get a run out from the Harps with Vernon obviously with Queens and my big hope P Toal away for soccer trials. We badly need to discover at least one scoring forward and he was the answer if he were to stay fit. Of the forwards on the panel I would like to see Joe Feeney and Ryan Henderson get a good run in the three games with a view to helping Stevie and Ronan in the scoring stakes. Our back line will pretty much pick itself later in the year................why is Andy Mallon not on the panel? Is he injured? Looking forward to seeing this lad McEvoy in goals corn, after your recommendation.
Would really have liked to have seen how some of the younger Cross boys would have blended in but we're gonna have to wait a while for that. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Old Bill on December 23, 2008, 01:09:02 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 23, 2008, 10:52:40 AM
Thought there would be a bit more debate on here about it.

No Harps men I see. I thought Morrison was going to get a run, I take it Kelly did not get a trial?


???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on December 23, 2008, 01:13:38 PM
Quote from: Old Bill on December 23, 2008, 01:09:02 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 23, 2008, 10:52:40 AM
Thought there would be a bit more debate on here about it.

No Harps men I see. I thought Morrison was going to get a run, I take it Kelly did not get a trial?


???

Can he run?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 23, 2008, 01:19:16 PM
I heard he did well at the trials.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 23, 2008, 03:36:29 PM
Quote from: AFS on December 23, 2008, 02:19:59 PM
Still about mackers  ;D

Fairly happy with the panel, with a few of the main men missing it seems a lot of lads going to have plenty of chances to stake their claims, which can only be a good thing. Particularly looking forward to seeing James Lavery have the chance to re-establish himself. Brendan Donaghy should get a good run of games to try to nail down a Championship starting spot. Joe Feeney should also get a few run outs, hoping for big things from him. Kick outs, from whoever is the chosen GK, will be interesting as Hearty's aimless punts have been putting pressure on our midfield for years, so it'd be nice if the new guy could make an attempt at directing the ball in a general direction at the very least.

The only thing I'd have a bit of bother with is the inclusion of guys like Smyth and Shannon. I've nothing in particular against these guys, and by the simplest logic they are probably in the top 30-40 players in the county, therefore should be involved. But they've been hanging around McKenna Cup/League panels for 5 or 6 years now and have never really looked like they were gonna break through and claim a Championship spot, so I'd question the logic of including these guys, who are in their mid to late twenties now, over a couple of fresh 19-20 year olds.

Don't expect much Spring success but as long as 2 or 3 guys put their hands up for a Summer spot I'll be delighted. Roll on the 4th :)

Fair points AFS, obviously from a Dromintee point of view I hope Shannon gets more game time, but I see your point.

As you say the GK spot will be interesting, but if someone as classy as McKinney does not get the nod who knows? I am sure the Harps men will have been impressed with McEvoy in recent years too.

Agreed on the last point two. If two or three 'put their hands up' as you say, it will bea job well done. Mackin is bound to have a point to prove and if he takes hsi club form into it, he could have a say in the summer.

I will watch Henderson and Austin with interest. Two players touted for their ability but for one reason or another have not shined or had the chance. Feeney may be a little green. I have seen hima couple of times and he has been excellent, but this is a different level for someone as young. Surprised to see JP there, was he good for the Ogs this year? Martin from Dromintee is a very good prospect. He destroyed/ had a horse of a game ( delete as appropriate ;)) against Cross.

Smyth is a very good defender and played a big part in the u21 success.

Unfortuantely I don't really know anything about Keady's McDonnell or Chris Rafferty is anyone wants to give us a run down?

I know it is only McKenna Cup, but I never thought I'd see the day when seven Dromintee boys are on the squad, likewise I am sure Granemore never thought they would see three men on it a few years back.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 23, 2008, 03:45:32 PM
Ronan Austin (Clan Na Gael)
Conor Clarke (Pearse Og)
Ronan Clarke (Pearse Og)
Brendan Donaghy (Clonmore)
J P Donnelly (Pearse Og)
Joe Feeney (Madden)
Ryan Henderson (Clann Eireann)
James Lavery (Maghery)
Malachy Mackin (St Patrick's)
Brian Mallon (Tir na nÓg)
Vincent Martin (Dromintee)
Finnian Moriarty (Wolfe Tone)
Tony McClelland (Granemore)
Barry McDonald (Tir na nÓg)
Eugene McDonnell (Keady)
Philip McElroy (Dromintee)
Ciaran McKeever (St Patrick's)
Paddy McKeever (Ballyhegan)
Shane O'Neill (Dromintee)
Aidan O'Rourke (Dromintee)
Kevin O'Rourke (St Michael's)
Martin O'Rourke (Dromintee)
Micheal O'Rourke (Dromintee)
Neil O'Rourke (St Michael's)
Chris Rafferty (Pearse Og)
Paudie Rodgers (Lissummon)
Barry Shannon (Dromintee)
Gareth Smyth (Mullaghbawn)
Barry Toner (Granemore)
Kieran Toner (Granemore)

I suppose the squad is fairly as expected, with McKinney's absence the main surprise. There'd be a couple of players I'd know little about - Rafferty, McElroy, mcDonnell, Feeney. Is Neil O'Rourke a borther of Kevin's?

Glad to see Malachy Mackin back in the squad. After his club performances last year, its fully deserved.

I agree with Corn that henderson is one to watch - I saw him once last year playing for Armagh against Wexford at the opening of Clam Eireann's pitch and he was arguably the best player on the pitch. Albeit only a challenge match but hopefully he'll show some form. Woulda been nice to have had the likes of the McKeowns, Murtagh and McNamee from Cross available.

One thing I would sat, is that while obviously every player ont he panel should get their chance, I'd like to see the team backboned by established county players in the McKenna Cup eg Clarke, Donaghy, Aidan and Martin O'Rourke, Ciaran McKeever. No point in selected 12 / 13 debutants in one team as happened last year as that tends to leave the team lacking shape and direction and its very difficult for so many fellas to make the step up at the same time. Much better to have them playing alongside more established lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 23, 2008, 03:47:46 PM
TAC 'McElroy' is McEvoy - Dromintee keeper.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on December 23, 2008, 04:16:55 PM
what happened to gregory loughran from ogs,thought he had the makings of a good footballer,kevin kelly from harps should have had a runout if only for his place kicking when on song as good as any in county.badly need a left footer that can kick 40-50 metre freesi know aronn is accurate from inside 35metres but not strong enough from 40-50metres
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on December 23, 2008, 04:49:29 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 23, 2008, 03:45:32 PM
Ronan Austin (Clan Na Gael)
Conor Clarke (Pearse Og)
Ronan Clarke (Pearse Og)
Brendan Donaghy (Clonmore)
J P Donnelly (Pearse Og)
Joe Feeney (Madden)
Ryan Henderson (Clann Eireann)
James Lavery (Maghery)
Malachy Mackin (St Patrick’s)
Brian Mallon (Tir na nÓg)
Vincent Martin (Dromintee)
Finnian Moriarty (Wolfe Tone)
Tony McClelland (Granemore)
Barry McDonald (Tir na nÓg)
Eugene McDonnell (Keady)
Philip McElroy (Dromintee)
Ciaran McKeever (St Patrick’s)
Paddy McKeever (Ballyhegan)
Shane O’Neill (Dromintee)
Aidan O’Rourke (Dromintee)
Kevin O’Rourke (St Michael’s)
Martin O’Rourke (Dromintee)
Micheal O’Rourke (Dromintee)
Neil O’Rourke (St Michael’s)
Chris Rafferty (Pearse Og)
Paudie Rodgers (Lissummon)
Barry Shannon (Dromintee)
Gareth Smyth (Mullaghbawn)
Barry Toner (Granemore)
Kieran Toner (Granemore)

I suppose the squad is fairly as expected, with McKinney's absence the main surprise. There'd be a couple of players I'd know little about - Rafferty, McElroy, mcDonnell, Feeney. Is Neil O'Rourke a borther of Kevin's?

Glad to see Malachy Mackin back in the squad. After his club performances last year, its fully deserved.

I agree with Corn that henderson is one to watch - I saw him once last year playing for Armagh against Wexford at the opening of Clam Eireann's pitch and he was arguably the best player on the pitch. Albeit only a challenge match but hopefully he'll show some form. Woulda been nice to have had the likes of the McKeowns, Murtagh and McNamee from Cross available.

One thing I would sat, is that while obviously every player ont he panel should get their chance, I'd like to see the team backboned by established county players in the McKenna Cup eg Clarke, Donaghy, Aidan and Martin O'Rourke, Ciaran McKeever. No point in selected 12 / 13 debutants in one team as happened last year as that tends to leave the team lacking shape and direction and its very difficult for so many fellas to make the step up at the same time. Much better to have them playing alongside more established lads.
That's a point that I argued on after the McKenna Cup match against Derry last year. It was very unfair on the debutants that day playing against the like of Fergal Doherty without some experience down the backbone of the team. Nobody expects or indeed wants an experienced 15 put out in the Mckenna Cup but you have to be fair to the new lads too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 24, 2008, 09:40:21 AM
Team I'd like for Antrim:

McEvoy

Finn Mo V Martin Smyth
Shannon McKeever B Donaghy
M Mackin Lavery
McClelland Brian Mallon Henderson
Kevin O Rourke Ronan Clarke  Michael O Rourke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 24, 2008, 11:42:16 AM
I'd like to see soemthing similar Corn, maybe along the lines of;

Rodgers / mcEvoy

Moriarty      K Toner      Smyth

Donaghy     McKeever     JP Donnelly

          Mackin       Lavery

McClelland      Mallon        S O'Neill

Henderson     R Austin     Michael O'Rourke

Then the next week bring in the likes of Aidan and Martin O'Rourke, Paddy McKeever and Ronan Clarke to replace some of the more experienced players and give a few of the newer members of the panel a run as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 24, 2008, 11:49:58 AM
Completely forgot about Austin.  I would put him at ff as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Old Bill on December 24, 2008, 12:21:36 PM
T McClelland at WHF? ???
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 24, 2008, 11:42:16 AM
I'd like to see soemthing similar Corn, maybe along the lines of;

Rodgers / mcEvoy

Moriarty      K Toner      Smyth

Donaghy     McKeever     JP Donnelly

          Mackin       Lavery

McClelland      Mallon        S O'Neill

Henderson     R Austin     Michael O'Rourke

Then the next week bring in the likes of Aidan and Martin O'Rourke, Paddy McKeever and Ronan Clarke to replace some of the more experienced players and give a few of the newer members of the panel a run as well.
Quote from: corn02 on December 24, 2008, 09:40:21 AM
Team I'd like for Antrim:

McEvoy

Finn Mo V Martin Smyth
Shannon McKeever B Donaghy
M Mackin Lavery
McClelland Brian Mallon Henderson
Kevin O Rourke Ronan Clarke  Michael O Rourke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on December 24, 2008, 02:57:55 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 24, 2008, 11:49:58 AM
Completely forgot about Austin.  I would put him at ff as well.


I wouldnt hes f**king shit! ;D ;D ;D Prob good enough to get on that team yous have lined out though! But then 'illdecide' would prob feel hard done by not to be included on THAT TEAM! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 24, 2008, 03:05:20 PM
corn dont think henderson have the "balls" to play half forward at this level  corner forward or in a 2 man ff line be his best position.  agree with the p[ost concerning mckeowns and mcnamee being part of the panel.  mickey especially as he has done alot more than the olike to shorty clarke over the last few years to warrant a place on the panel.  glad see martin get a chance to a man who has always had potential put no real luck with injuries
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Square Ball on December 24, 2008, 03:11:00 PM
A bomb has been found near GAA premises in Armagh, the police have said.

It was found after police carried out another search in the Friary Road area of Armagh city, following a claim that a device was left there on 13 December.

Inspector Paul Fulham said the device could have caused serious injury. It has been removed for examination.

"This device could have caused serious harm and grief to members of the public, especially children who may have played in the area," he said.

"The people who left it have no regard for life and we do not want them in our society."

From the BBC

What club is this guys?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 24, 2008, 03:36:45 PM
Quote from: Square Ball on December 24, 2008, 03:11:00 PM
A bomb has been found near GAA premises in Armagh, the police have said.

It was found after police carried out another search in the Friary Road area of Armagh city, following a claim that a device was left there on 13 December.

Inspector Paul Fulham said the device could have caused serious injury. It has been removed for examination.

"This device could have caused serious harm and grief to members of the public, especially children who may have played in the area," he said.

"The people who left it have no regard for life and we do not want them in our society."

From rge BBC

What club is this guys?

Its the Athletic Grounds I think. Nobody hurt thankfully.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on December 24, 2008, 03:56:19 PM
TAC. Drove past Athletic Grounds at about half one police were everywhere. On a more positive note I like a few options you have in defence. With Lavery back we have better options in midfield and I think in the long term Toner could prove to be our best full back - although we may need him elsewhere! Have always said that I think Donaghy is a natural half back and only does a good job at full back as he is a good footballer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 24, 2008, 06:03:56 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on December 24, 2008, 03:56:19 PM
TAC. Drove past Athletic Grounds at about half one police were everywhere. On a more positive note I like a few options you have in defence. With Lavery back we have better options in midfield and I think in the long term Toner could prove to be our best full back - although we may need him elsewhere! Have always said that I think Donaghy is a natural half back and only does a good job at full back as he is a good footballer.

Have thought Toner was a very good full back since the 2007 u21 campaign when he played very well there.

A thought just struck me - where is Padraig Duffy of Pearse Ógs? Is he injured?  Be nice to see him back challenging for a spot in the half back line.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 24, 2008, 06:47:26 PM
Why no Sarsfields men this year  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on December 24, 2008, 11:35:50 PM
Happy Christmas to you all....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 27, 2008, 01:27:20 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 24, 2008, 06:03:56 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on December 24, 2008, 03:56:19 PM
TAC. Drove past Athletic Grounds at about half one police were everywhere. On a more positive note I like a few options you have in defence. With Lavery back we have better options in midfield and I think in the long term Toner could prove to be our best full back - although we may need him elsewhere! Have always said that I think Donaghy is a natural half back and only does a good job at full back as he is a good footballer.

Have thought Toner was a very good full back since the 2007 u21 campaign when he played very well there.

A thought just struck me - where is Padraig Duffy of Pearse Ógs? Is he injured?  Be nice to see him back challenging for a spot in the half back line.
Pauraig lives in london now.  He plays for neasden Gaels and was playing centre half forward for London this year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on December 27, 2008, 03:36:27 PM
El Cuevo  he plays for "THE MIGHTY NEASDEN GAELS"  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on December 28, 2008, 12:01:50 PM
Spoke to some of the Bridge lads last night , apparently their sec is a very busy guy. But they are tops at irish dancing so they are happy enough.

By the way they tell me that Mona Ruddy is their new senior manager after John Rafferty pulled out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 28, 2008, 01:30:40 PM
John Rafferty is taking over at his home club O'Hanlons I hear.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on December 28, 2008, 02:48:05 PM
Quote from: AFS on December 27, 2008, 07:08:41 PM
As expected, the Armagh yearbook found its way to the house at Christmas there. Its a pretty decent effort but does anyone know why Silverbridge didn't have a section in it? Was a bit unusual, maybe there were other clubs missing but they were the only ones that I noticed. Even Phelim Bradys managed to put together a couple of pages. 
bridge sec only got told one day before the deadline so was givin no time to work on it think the county board 4got bout them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on December 28, 2008, 02:51:24 PM
Neil O'Rourke (St Michael's>this guy played b football last year and i must say he is bad think hollywood had a say in this pick....got roasted in a lot of senior matchs as well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 28, 2008, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 28, 2008, 01:30:40 PM
John Rafferty is taking over at his home club O'Hanlons I hear.

Rostrevor.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 28, 2008, 04:46:23 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on December 28, 2008, 02:48:05 PM
Quote from: AFS on December 27, 2008, 07:08:41 PM
As expected, the Armagh yearbook found its way to the house at Christmas there. Its a pretty decent effort but does anyone know why Silverbridge didn't have a section in it? Was a bit unusual, maybe there were other clubs missing but they were the only ones that I noticed. Even Phelim Bradys managed to put together a couple of pages. 
bridge sec only got told one day before the deadline so was givin no time to work on it think the county board 4got bout them
Arse, I was at the county board meeting where it was first mentioned - think it was July.  Surely there was a 'Bridge rep there or even there for the next one to read the minutes?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on December 28, 2008, 06:24:39 PM
thats about 3 clubs ive heard john rafferty was to take, heard he was taking errigal then mayobridge are the offers getting bigger with each club?any word on other club appointments in county,alot of clubs looking managers from what i hear
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on December 28, 2008, 07:27:45 PM
Silverbridge are on the lookout for a manager or so i'm told.

Apparently the previous managers are going back to Fossets or is it Duffys
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Old Bill on December 28, 2008, 11:49:15 PM
PTG is taking Errigal this year. Mickey Donnelly is away to ardboe, dunno bout the new m'bridge manager but raff is takin rostrevor i hear
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 29, 2008, 05:46:29 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on December 27, 2008, 01:27:20 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 24, 2008, 06:03:56 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on December 24, 2008, 03:56:19 PM
TAC. Drove past Athletic Grounds at about half one police were everywhere. On a more positive note I like a few options you have in defence. With Lavery back we have better options in midfield and I think in the long term Toner could prove to be our best full back - although we may need him elsewhere! Have always said that I think Donaghy is a natural half back and only does a good job at full back as he is a good footballer.

Have thought Toner was a very good full back since the 2007 u21 campaign when he played very well there.

A thought just struck me - where is Padraig Duffy of Pearse Ógs? Is he injured?  Be nice to see him back challenging for a spot in the half back line.
Pauraig lives in london now.  He plays for neasden Gaels and was playing centre half forward for London this year

Sorry I actually meant Paul Duffy? I read on orchardcounty that he was injured. Anybody got any ideas on when he's likely to be back?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on December 29, 2008, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 29, 2008, 05:46:29 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on December 27, 2008, 01:27:20 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 24, 2008, 06:03:56 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on December 24, 2008, 03:56:19 PM
TAC. Drove past Athletic Grounds at about half one police were everywhere. On a more positive note I like a few options you have in defence. With Lavery back we have better options in midfield and I think in the long term Toner could prove to be our best full back - although we may need him elsewhere! Have always said that I think Donaghy is a natural half back and only does a good job at full back as he is a good footballer.

Have thought Toner was a very good full back since the 2007 u21 campaign when he played very well there.

A thought just struck me - where is Padraig Duffy of Pearse Ógs? Is he injured?  Be nice to see him back challenging for a spot in the half back line.
Pauraig lives in london now.  He plays for neasden Gaels and was playing centre half forward for London this year

Sorry I actually meant Paul Duffy? I read on orchardcounty that he was injured. Anybody got any ideas on when he's likely to be back?

Yeah got badly injured in  the first minute of this year's county final. would be another good option for the half back line. A lot of people made money off him in the town a couple of years back when he scored against monaghan i think. Was something ridiculous like 11-1 to score at any time and the odds went down to 4-1 or less by time of match!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 29, 2008, 07:28:22 PM
Quote from: ogshead on December 29, 2008, 07:26:22 PM
A lot of people made money off him in the town a couple of years back when he scored against monaghan i think. Was something ridiculous like 11-1 to score at any time and the odds went down to 4-1 or less by time of match!!

There was some cheer went up when he scored that point  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on December 30, 2008, 09:06:21 AM
Think he is more or less recovered from that injury and shud be back training with the county wenever it is county teams are allowed back.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 30, 2008, 09:45:12 AM
Quote from: rootthemout on December 23, 2008, 04:16:55 PM
what happened to gregory loughran from ogs,thought he had the makings of a good footballer,kevin kelly from harps should have had a runout if only for his place kicking when on song as good as any in county.badly need a left footer that can kick 40-50 metre freesi know aronn is accurate from inside 35metres but not strong enough from 40-50metres

He's made plans to go till America in May
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on December 30, 2008, 09:46:51 AM
Quote from: BenDover on December 30, 2008, 09:45:12 AM
Quote from: rootthemout on December 23, 2008, 04:16:55 PM
what happened to gregory loughran from ogs,thought he had the makings of a good footballer,kevin kelly from harps should have had a runout if only for his place kicking when on song as good as any in county.badly need a left footer that can kick 40-50 metre freesi know aronn is accurate from inside 35metres but not strong enough from 40-50metres

He's made plans to go till America in May

I'd heard that alright.  He'll be a big loss to the Ogs next year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 30, 2008, 10:44:44 AM
McDonnell: No time for players meeting
By Steve Malone

ARMAGH manager Peter McDonnell advised people not to read too much into the omissions from his McKenna Cup squad. Steven McDonnell and Enda McNulty are noticeable absentees while the Mulaghbawn primary school principal has also added a few new faces to the panel.

St Michael's defender Neil O'Rourke, county hurler Eugene McDonnell, Chris Rafferty and Dromintee's outstanding goalkeeper Philip McEvoy are to be blooded for the first time.

Armagh begins their campaign against Antrim at the Athletic Grounds on Sunday (January 4) at 2pm.

The training ban, allowing only two sessions, imposed by Croke Park during November and December hampered the training and the Ulster Club Championship denied McDonnell and his players the chance of a face-to-face meeting.

"We were to meet on the second week of the permitted meetings after Crossmaglen were playing in Ulster Club Championship final," said McDonnell.

"But that went to a replay, then was postponed and after Crossmaglen won it was too close to Christmas. Effectively we are not going to have our second meeting and there have been no announcements of retirements, so I wouldn't read too much into the absentees."

He added: "A lot of players that were not on the county panel before the McKenna Cup have been restricted by the ban. While many of the panel have featured for Armagh over the past few years it is a myth that underage honours are a necessary requirement. The Armagh manager was quick to dispel this. "The is a perception in some quarters that unless a player has shown promise at county minor or U21 level that they wont have a county career but if they have been playing well they deserve a chance," said the Armagh manager.

Last year Armagh's lack of scoring forwards outside of Ronan Clarke and Steven McDonnell were apparent. Clann Eireann's Ryan Henderson has been touted as the answer before and McDonnell is giving the classy forward the opportunity to deliver. And McDonnell thinks highly of Henderson. McDonnell said: "Ryan Henderson did well for us in a challenge match against Wexford in Lurgan last year. But I had my panel picked at that stage and this is the first chance to see him since.


He added: "On the second trail he score around 1-5 and I have been aware of him for some time, and the opinion in the north of Armagh is that he deserves a chance." McDonnell added: "He is more than worthy of an opportunity and it is great to put a player in at the deep end and see if they have talent over they haven't.

"There is a big difference between club and county and he has done it for his club and know we can see if he can do it for his county."

The match against Antrim will be first competitive fixture in the newly refurbished Athletic Grounds and McDonnell has thrown the gauntlet down to his players to make the city ground a fortress. "It is great to get back in the Athletic Grounds although it was always great playing in Crossmaglen. But I think the Athletic Grounds is a welcome change for many fans as it is more accessible to the north bf our county and it is our traditional home. "That said, we have got to make it a new traditional home because there are a lot of players that have never played in the Athletic Grounds.

Armagh Dr McKenna Cup Squad: Ronan Austin, Conor Clarke, Ronan Clarke, Brendan Donaghy, J Donnelly, Joe Feeney, Ryan Henderson, James Lavery, Malachy Mackin, Brian Mallon, Vincie Martin, Finnian Moriarity, Tony McClelland, Barry McDonald, Eugene McDonnell, Philip McEvoy, Ciaran McKeever, Paddy McKeever, Shane Ó Neill Aidan O'Rourke, Kevin O'Rourke, Martin O'Rourke, Micheal O'Rourke, Neil O'Rourke, Chris Rafferty, Paudie Rodgers, Barry Shannon, Gareth Smyth, Barry Toner and Kieran Toner.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 30, 2008, 01:18:20 PM
When the U21 starting? Any word on the squad?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on December 30, 2008, 02:36:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 30, 2008, 01:18:20 PM
When the U21 starting? Any word on the squad?

fridays irish news is supposed to have the squad!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 30, 2008, 02:53:35 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on December 30, 2008, 02:36:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 30, 2008, 01:18:20 PM
When the U21 starting? Any word on the squad?

fridays irish news is supposed to have the squad!

Who can we expect to make an impact?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 31, 2008, 10:04:06 AM
U21 squad in the paper today, very strong on paper.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 31, 2008, 10:55:00 AM
Crossmaglen (6): K Carragher, J Clarke, S Finnegan, F Hanratty, R Kelly, P McKeown
Tullysaran (3): A Conlon, R Conlon, C Mullan
Carrickcruppen (2): S Harold, J Magill
Dromintee (2): S Carroll, R McCoy
Madden (2): K Grimley, D McKenna
Pearse Og (2): R Clarke, S Clarke
Tir na nÓg (2): J Donnelly, M McAllister
Whitecross (2): A McCann, M Shields
Wolfe Tone (2): M Carson, G O'Neill
Ballyhegan (1): J McKeever
Belleek (1): S McCreesh
Clan na Gael (1): R McGuinness
Granemore (1): K Toner
Harps (1): M McConville
Killeavey (1): B Magee
Lissummon (1): P Rodgers
Maghery (1): S Forker
St John's (1): R McParland
St Patrick's (1): K Hoey
Sarsfields (1): E McGeown
Shane O'Neill's (1): D Fearon
Silverbridge (1): G McGarvey
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on December 31, 2008, 11:51:48 AM

If rico kelly is a county u21 i'm a dutchman - ruud gullit probably
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 31, 2008, 11:58:21 AM
Was a bit surprised myself, but haven't seen too much of him. What is young Hanratty like? Where is Feeney.


On my very limited knowledge, a possible first 15:

Rodgers
Finnegan Toner McKeown
Magee ? ?
Harold ?
McAlister Forker Clarke
Carragher Clarke McCoy

Don't know half the team, anyoine fill us in on the north contingent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 31, 2008, 12:19:41 PM
Unless I'm mistaken McConville from Harps and S CLarke from Ogs are both studying across the water and it'll be hard for either to fully commit?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on December 31, 2008, 12:32:44 PM
A Conlon from Tullysaran has had an operation on his shoulder 4 weeks ago and wont be back training till mid April so i cant see him having much involvement either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 31, 2008, 01:53:26 PM
Why so many goalkeepers?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 31, 2008, 04:20:16 PM
Saw on orchardcounty.com that there is talk of a new club being proposed in killean parish South Armagh, from what I gather it is to do with some disgruntled ex-killeavy member spear-heading the idea. Anyone hear anything about it? Personally I think Armagh has enough clubs, and a new one isn't viable, not least in a parish where a strong club already exists.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on December 31, 2008, 06:58:46 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on December 31, 2008, 12:19:41 PM
Unless I'm mistaken McConville from Harps and S CLarke from Ogs are both studying across the water and it'll be hard for either to fully commit?
Quote from: Hank Everlast on December 31, 2008, 12:32:44 PM
A Conlon from Tullysaran has had an operation on his shoulder 4 weeks ago and wont be back training till mid April so i cant see him having much involvement either.
Hope yous are joking.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rossa on December 31, 2008, 07:03:38 PM
On the U21 squad - some very big omissions
1. Colm Watters (Culloville) - CHF on 05 & 06 minors - UUJ sigerson squad last yr
2. Darren Rowland (Culloville) - on both 05 & 06 minors - won Hogan with the Abbey
3. Niall Treanor (Silverbridge) - on both 05 & 06 minors midfield in 06 - scored 1-5 v Cavan in league final in Clones
4. David Comiskey (Tullysaran) - captain of 07 minors & colleges all-star last yr
5. Tony Marley (Tir na nOg) - regular starter on senior team for 3 yrs
6. Declan McManus (Pearse Og) - 06 minor & starts on club seniors this past 2 yrs
Also other prominent players from 07 minors - Tony Donnelly, Gary McCooey, Stephen Sheridan as well as Gavin McParland - double colleges all-star
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 01, 2009, 12:33:05 PM
Looks on paper to be a very strong under 21 squad

AFAIK, Watters has been injured for the last while. Played a bit for the blues towards the end of the year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on January 01, 2009, 03:40:06 PM
Quote from: full back on January 01, 2009, 12:33:05 PM
Looks on paper to be a very strong under 21 squad

AFAIK, Watters has been injured for the last while. Played a bit for the blues towards the end of the year

He played the championship final at Right Half Back but CHF is his natural position. AFAIK he's not injured. If Rico (from Monaghan) is a better prospect than him then I'd be surprised.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on January 01, 2009, 08:35:31 PM
Gavin Mc Parland is still minor this season so wouldn't think he would be on the county under 21's.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 02, 2009, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: hardstation on January 01, 2009, 10:14:38 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 31, 2008, 10:55:00 AM

Shane O'Neill's : Fearon


:D

:) Very good.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JMohan on January 02, 2009, 11:42:28 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on January 01, 2009, 08:35:31 PM
Gavin Mc Parland is still minor this season so wouldn't think he would be on the county under 21's.



McParlands a good footbalelr too
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 02, 2009, 02:51:33 PM
Quote from: corn02 on December 31, 2008, 10:55:00 AM
Crossmaglen (6): K Carragher, J Clarke, S Finnegan, F Hanratty, R Kelly, P McKeown
Tullysaran (3): A Conlon, R Conlon, C Mullan
Carrickcruppen (2): S Harold, J Magill
Dromintee (2): S Carroll, R McCoy
Madden (2): K Grimley, D McKenna
Pearse Og (2): R Clarke, S Clarke
Tir na nÓg (2): J Donnelly, M McAllister
Whitecross (2): A McCann, M Shields
Wolfe Tone (2): M Carson, G O'Neill
Ballyhegan (1): J McKeever
Belleek (1): S McCreesh
Clan na Gael (1): R McGuinness
Granemore (1): K Toner
Harps (1): M McConville
Killeavey (1): B Magee
Lissummon (1): P Rodgers
Maghery (1): S Forker
St John's (1): R McParland
St Patrick's (1): K Hoey
Sarsfields (1): E McGeown
Shane O'Neill's (1): D Fearon
Silverbridge (1): G McGarvey

Dont know how gerard o neill on panel 3rd choice keeper for the tones and a bad one at that,shockingly inaccurate kickouts.  michael carson a good enough defender though doubt he will start.

was told that eamon mcgeown has been playing chf in the warm up games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 02, 2009, 03:39:47 PM
anyone else think that four goalkeepers is too much?

O'Neill, McKeever, McGuinness & Rodgers???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on January 03, 2009, 02:43:47 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 01, 2009, 10:04:09 PM
Is David McKenna from Cross overage or is that him mistakingly listed as a Madden player?

No he's overage i think!

that d mckenna is damien mckenna!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 04, 2009, 12:53:36 AM
Quote from: Legs11 on December 28, 2008, 02:51:24 PM
Neil O'Rourke (St Michael's>this guy played b football last year and i must say he is bad think hollywood had a say in this pick....got roasted in a lot of senior matchs as well

I advise you to stay at home tomorrow then or you will really be annoyed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 04, 2009, 12:57:25 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on December 31, 2008, 04:20:16 PM
Saw on orchardcounty.com that there is talk of a new club being proposed in killean parish South Armagh, from what I gather it is to do with some disgruntled ex-killeavy member spear-heading the idea. Anyone hear anything about it? Personally I think Armagh has enough clubs, and a new one isn't viable, not least in a parish where a strong club already exists.

Weird one this. The ex-Killeavy member is very well known. I think it all came down to a fall out about the 'sawker' a few years ago. As much as i detest my rivals and neighbours on the football field, I would hate to see a club set up simply to try and steeal a few players or whatever the plan is.

Saw the new pitch the other day in Killean. In good shape, hasn't been touched. Someone said it was the community pitch so I am not 100%, no one seems certain of what is going on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 05, 2009, 08:20:16 AM
Quote from: Rossa on December 31, 2008, 07:03:38 PM
On the U21 squad - some very big omissions
1. Colm Watters (Culloville) - CHF on 05 & 06 minors - UUJ sigerson squad last yr
2. Darren Rowland (Culloville) - on both 05 & 06 minors - won Hogan with the Abbey
3. Niall Treanor (Silverbridge) - on both 05 & 06 minors midfield in 06 - scored 1-5 v Cavan in league final in Clones
4. David Comiskey (Tullysaran) - captain of 07 minors & colleges all-star last yr
5. Tony Marley (Tir na nOg) - regular starter on senior team for 3 yrs
6. Declan McManus (Pearse Og) - 06 minor & starts on club seniors this past 2 yrs
Also other prominent players from 07 minors - Tony Donnelly, Gary McCooey, Stephen Sheridan as well as Gavin McParland - double colleges all-star
His name wasn't in the paper for being on the squad but he got word that he is actually on it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 05, 2009, 05:09:45 PM
Any other clubs out there still without a manager or is it just Clan na Gael...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on January 05, 2009, 09:57:13 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 05, 2009, 05:09:45 PM
Any other clubs out there still without a manager or is it just Clan na Gael...

Have the ogs appointed anyone yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 05, 2009, 10:07:06 PM
Was anyone appointed to Harps?

We havent appointed anyone yet. 

Who else is looking, there was a lot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 06, 2009, 09:08:35 AM
New Harps manager ratified last night - Nudie Hughes.  Exiciting appointment from the club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 06, 2009, 02:09:31 PM
(http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:zcRhGYrQedhe1M:http://ajgentile.typepad.com)

Remember this guy used to joint manage Tir na Nog. I think he was a tyrone man. Maybe this will be the next clans manager :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 06, 2009, 02:19:22 PM

Ian Dowie?

any word on a clans manager win?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 06, 2009, 02:21:41 PM
Harsh... but it's big Audi right?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 06, 2009, 02:46:33 PM
Who?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 06, 2009, 02:50:24 PM
Audi Hamilton - Tullysaren manager... Dungannon man
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 06, 2009, 02:54:11 PM
Cant say i know him but please tell me he doesnt look like the guy from the Goonies
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on January 06, 2009, 04:22:01 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on January 06, 2009, 02:54:11 PM
Cant say i know him but please tell me he doesnt look like the guy from the Goonies

He does look like him, the fella from the goonies probably has more know how about the game too!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 06, 2009, 04:23:50 PM
Holy f**k god love the poor man
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laceer on January 06, 2009, 07:24:40 PM
winsam you wouldn't be as brave about talking that muck if Audi was stood in front of you.idiot
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on January 06, 2009, 07:43:24 PM
Quote from: laceer on January 06, 2009, 07:24:40 PM
winsam you wouldn't be as brave about talking that muck if Audi was stood in front of you.idiot

He's committed to another year with Tullysaran anyway, so the Clans will have to wait
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 07, 2009, 08:53:28 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 06, 2009, 02:09:31 PM
(http://tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:zcRhGYrQedhe1M:http://ajgentile.typepad.com)

Remember this guy used to joint manage Tir na Nog. I think he was a tyrone man. Maybe this will be the next clans manager :D :D

And u wonder why no-one on this board listens to ye!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on January 07, 2009, 09:51:09 AM
f**k sake lighten up lads it was a joke!!! Ever heard of the term humour?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 07, 2009, 09:57:19 AM
Quote from: laceer on January 06, 2009, 07:24:40 PM
winsam you wouldn't be as brave about talking that muck if Audi was stood in front of you.idiot

Hold on a minute lacer I've had first hand experience of this guy a few years ago in Davitt Park and all he is is a big bully. And all I'm gonna say on the matter is "you know what happens when you stand up to a bully" He runs along the side line with his tight top and sleeves rolled up trying to intimate the opposition...WTF
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 07, 2009, 10:31:15 AM

Did you get the job illdecide?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tyrone86 on January 07, 2009, 10:59:26 AM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on January 06, 2009, 07:43:24 PM
Quote from: laceer on January 06, 2009, 07:24:40 PM
winsam you wouldn't be as brave about talking that muck if Audi was stood in front of you.idiot

He's committed to another year with Tullysaran anyway, so the Clans will have to wait

Is Shay McKeown with him in Tullysaran?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 07, 2009, 12:05:21 PM
Brilliant lacer and hank i never thought you guys were so touchy.  :D :D :D

Quote from: laceer on January 06, 2009, 07:24:40 PM
winsam you wouldn't be as brave about talking that muck if Audi was stood in front of you.idiot

I usually don't run up to people and say they look like the guy from the goonies. Though i am sure i told this guy a few truths a couple of years back at Davitt and later at clan Eireann when he was running around hitting our lads with his shoulder in the back as they were warming up. But sure he's a good lad. All i can say is Hey you guyyssssssssssssss ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 07, 2009, 12:14:49 PM
I always thought that guy was the spit of Ian Dowie

(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:h1ww8ixPACGawM:http://www.liverpoolpies.tv/sloth%2520(2).jpg)


(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:2F2YegWJr6_rAM:http://www.iolfree.ie/~eddiemoroney/gaalookalikes/images/ian_dowie.jpg)

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 07, 2009, 12:58:31 PM
Pints

Anything come out of meeting in the 'bridge on Sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 07, 2009, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: tyrone86 on January 07, 2009, 10:59:26 AM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on January 06, 2009, 07:43:24 PM
Quote from: laceer on January 06, 2009, 07:24:40 PM
winsam you wouldn't be as brave about talking that muck if Audi was stood in front of you.idiot

He's committed to another year with Tullysaran anyway, so the Clans will have to wait

Is Shay McKeown with him in Tullysaran?

Nope, he's by himself.... cant wait for pre-season!! ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tyrone86 on January 07, 2009, 01:54:46 PM
It'll be an experience I'd say, I remember standing in the vicinity of the changing rooms of one of his teams during a championship match and him guldering

"EVERYBODY WANTS TE GO TE HEAVEN, BUT THEY DON'T WANT TE DIEEEE FER IT"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 07, 2009, 03:01:55 PM
Are you sure it wasn't Hey you guysssssssssssssssssssssssssssss :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 07, 2009, 06:42:29 PM
Quote from: holylandsniper on January 07, 2009, 12:58:31 PM
Pints

Anything come out of meeting in the 'bridge on Sunday?

Im not gonig to discuss that on a public discussion board sniper.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 08, 2009, 11:18:32 AM

Change of manager at the Ogs too i hear?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on January 08, 2009, 11:20:11 AM
and what do you hear?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 08, 2009, 11:24:48 AM

couple of hgh profile former all ireland winners (from different counties) in the running
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 08, 2009, 11:44:49 AM
Quote from: The GAA on January 08, 2009, 11:18:32 AM

Change of manager at the Ogs too i hear?
Heard 3 candidates are being interviewed next week, withe Adrian Clarke one of the three.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 08, 2009, 11:46:27 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 08, 2009, 11:44:49 AM
Quote from: The GAA on January 08, 2009, 11:18:32 AM

Change of manager at the Ogs too i hear?
Heard 3 candidates are being interviewed next week, withe Adrian Clarke one of the three.

All-Ireland winners? Interesting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on January 08, 2009, 11:47:26 AM
The Pearse Og management team has not been selected and i think it is inappropriate to discuss the matter on a public forum. especially as what you are saying is not true.

lets just leave it at that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 08, 2009, 11:49:30 AM
Quote from: bubbles on January 08, 2009, 11:47:26 AM
The Pearse Og management team has not been selected and i think it is inappropriate to discuss the matter on a public forum. especially as what you are saying is not true.

lets just leave it at that

Who would you like to see?   :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 08, 2009, 11:50:40 AM
Thanks for that bubbles.

Prominent former down player and prominent former armagh player i heard.

must be awkward for clarke to have to interview for a job he's had for 3/4 years plus must be very awkward for the clarke lads - especially if he doesn't get it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 08, 2009, 12:10:08 PM
whilst i don't agree with posting up delicate club details ie finances or deeper internal arguments. I hardly think speculation as to who is the next manager would be breaking any boundaries bubbles. Keep them coming lads. To date Clans have no one as senior manager.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on January 08, 2009, 12:32:24 PM
our manager left to take over collegeland
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 08, 2009, 12:37:04 PM
Quote from: The GAA on January 08, 2009, 11:50:40 AM
Thanks for that bubbles.

Prominent former down player and prominent former armagh player i heard.

must be awkward for clarke to have to interview for a job he's had for 3/4 years plus must be very awkward for the clarke lads - especially if he doesn't get it

Keep stirring there!! can't see how it would be awkward as they've played for the Ogs from no age and know everyone connected to the club
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 08, 2009, 12:38:58 PM

Yeah but if your da has been the manager for a few years, wants to stay on and ere to be emoved in favour of an outsider?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 08, 2009, 12:45:37 PM
Quote from: The GAA on January 08, 2009, 12:38:58 PM

Yeah but if your da has been the manager for a few years, wants to stay on and ere to be emoved in favour of an outsider?

That type of thing has caused rows in the past for clubs...

Don't think it will in this case though... as long as it's handled correctly!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 08, 2009, 01:04:52 PM
Yea i agree, i think they shud pack their bags and move out the road to the Saran, where they can team up with 3 former ogs greats!! ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 08, 2009, 01:06:21 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on January 08, 2009, 01:04:52 PM
Yea i agree, i think they shud pack their bags and move out the road to the Saran, where they can team up with 3 former ogs greats!! ::)

Houlie's a Ballyhegan man now sure... only one place they're going!!  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 08, 2009, 01:20:16 PM
Quote from: bubbles on January 08, 2009, 11:47:26 AM
The Pearse Og management team has not been selected and i think it is inappropriate to discuss the matter on a public forum. especially as what you are saying is not true.

lets just leave it at that

Harldy anything too slanderous bubbles, just a bit of management talk - no harm at all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on January 08, 2009, 01:46:03 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 08, 2009, 12:45:37 PM
Quote from: The GAA on January 08, 2009, 12:38:58 PM

Yeah but if your da has been the manager for a few years, wants to stay on and ere to be emoved in favour of an outsider?

That type of thing has caused rows in the past for clubs...

Don't think it will in this case though... as long as it's handled correctly!

i could see that type of thing causing rows if the new guy was offered "training expenses2 when the club man didnt take any
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on January 08, 2009, 02:11:41 PM
I heard Pat Spillane was goin' for it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 08, 2009, 02:27:36 PM
Quote from: naka on January 08, 2009, 01:46:03 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 08, 2009, 12:45:37 PM
Quote from: The GAA on January 08, 2009, 12:38:58 PM

Yeah but if your da has been the manager for a few years, wants to stay on and ere to be emoved in favour of an outsider?

That type of thing has caused rows in the past for clubs...

Don't think it will in this case though... as long as it's handled correctly!

i could see that type of thing causing rows if the new guy was offered "training expenses2 when the club man didnt take any

not everyone manages their own clubs free gratis these days
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: judas1 on January 08, 2009, 03:06:36 PM
Quote from: The GAA on January 08, 2009, 02:27:36 PM
Quote from: naka on January 08, 2009, 01:46:03 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 08, 2009, 12:45:37 PM
Quote from: The GAA on January 08, 2009, 12:38:58 PM

Yeah but if your da has been the manager for a few years, wants to stay on and ere to be emoved in favour of an outsider?

That type of thing has caused rows in the past for clubs...

Don't think it will in this case though... as long as it's handled correctly!

i could see that type of thing causing rows if the new guy was offered "training expenses2 when the club man didnt take any

not everyone manages their own clubs free gratis these days
once they put the hand out, i wouldnt call them CLUB MEN!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 08, 2009, 03:24:37 PM
well from what i've heard i think the lads accept that their da may not get the job and are still happy enuf to play for the Ogs.

LOL Hank sure 3 former greats??? Worm has left ye's afaik and bomber is for America in may wouldn't have him near the place  ;) can't think of the other is it pinkie?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 08, 2009, 03:31:37 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 08, 2009, 01:06:21 PM
Houlie's a Ballyhegan man now sure... only one place they're going!!  :P

Houly taking ballyhegan?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 08, 2009, 03:53:39 PM
Quote from: The GAA on January 08, 2009, 03:31:37 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 08, 2009, 01:06:21 PM
Houlie's a Ballyhegan man now sure... only one place they're going!!  :P

Houly taking ballyhegan?

No... He's living in the parish now just!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 08, 2009, 07:20:47 PM
pints,
   heard john rafferty had his name in for the bridge job but few people round the bridge though the 2clowns that is there could do a better job...bridge has went backwards since fizspatrick left...any word on whos in the runnin now..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 08, 2009, 07:25:03 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 04, 2009, 12:53:36 AM
Quote from: Legs11 on December 28, 2008, 02:51:24 PM
Neil O'Rourke (St Michael's>this guy played b football last year and i must say he is bad think hollywood had a say in this pick....got roasted in a lot of senior matchs as well

I advise you to stay at home tomorrow then or you will really be annoyed.
corn i didnt go ::)but how did he play?? sorry but i jus dont rate this guy one bit.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 08, 2009, 07:26:45 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on January 08, 2009, 07:20:47 PM
pints,
   heard john rafferty had his name in for the bridge job but few people round the bridge though the 2clowns that is there could do a better job...bridge has went backwards since fizspatrick left...any word on whos in the runnin now..
Rafferty was never approached by silverbridge gfc. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 08, 2009, 07:31:21 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 06, 2009, 09:08:35 AM
New Harps manager ratified last night - Nudie Hughes.  Exiciting appointment from the club.
thats a good signin  won 2 all stars at left back and full forward..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 08, 2009, 07:33:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 08, 2009, 07:26:45 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on January 08, 2009, 07:20:47 PM
pints,
   heard john rafferty had his name in for the bridge job but few people round the bridge though the 2clowns that is there could do a better job...bridge has went backwards since fizspatrick left...any word on whos in the runnin now..
Rafferty was never approached by silverbrige gfc. 

now now pints why the lies.was talkin to john at school the other day and he was approached to put his name forward and he agreed...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 08, 2009, 07:35:43 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on January 08, 2009, 07:33:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 08, 2009, 07:26:45 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on January 08, 2009, 07:20:47 PM
pints,
   heard john rafferty had his name in for the bridge job but few people round the bridge though the 2clowns that is there could do a better job...bridge has went backwards since fizspatrick left...any word on whos in the runnin now..
Rafferty was never approached by silverbrige gfc. 

now now pints why the lies.was talkin to john at school the other day and he was approached to put his name forward and he agreed...

I'll state again legs11, John Rafferty was NEVER approached by silverbridge gfc. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 08, 2009, 07:42:02 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 08, 2009, 07:35:43 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on January 08, 2009, 07:33:56 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 08, 2009, 07:26:45 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on January 08, 2009, 07:20:47 PM
pints,
   heard john rafferty had his name in for the bridge job but few people round the bridge though the 2clowns that is there could do a better job...bridge has went backwards since fizspatrick left...any word on whos in the runnin now..
Rafferty was never approached by silverbrige gfc. 

now now pints why the lies.was talkin to john at school the other day and he was approached to put his name forward and he agreed...

I'll state again legs11, John Rafferty was NEVER approached by silverbridge gfc. 
ok ok i know wat ur playing at ::)lets just say wat a good job this man WOULD have made for the good of the bridge team..when is ur boy back from oz
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 08, 2009, 07:45:05 PM
I'm not playing at anything, I know where the rumours are coming from (and people would be forgiven for thinking he was approached) but I'm stating a fact. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 08, 2009, 07:49:10 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 08, 2009, 07:45:05 PM
I'm not playing at anything, I know where the rumours are coming from (and people would be forgiven for thinking he was approached) but I'm stating a fact. 


AND???????? when ur boy back ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 08, 2009, 08:02:24 PM
My boy? Who?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on January 08, 2009, 10:36:19 PM
Quote from: BenDover on January 08, 2009, 03:24:37 PM
well from what i've heard i think the lads accept that their da may not get the job and are still happy enuf to play for the Ogs.

LOL Hank sure 3 former greats??? Worm has left ye's afaik and bomber is for America in may wouldn't have him near the place  ;) can't think of the other is it pinkie?

As far as I know Pinky has quit and I never ever remembered bomber or worm as regular starters for the Senior team. In fact I don't remember Pinky bein a regular on the Senior team, top B player though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on January 09, 2009, 08:13:08 AM
Quote from: ogshead on January 08, 2009, 10:36:19 PM
Quote from: BenDover on January 08, 2009, 03:24:37 PM
well from what i've heard i think the lads accept that their da may not get the job and are still happy enuf to play for the Ogs.

LOL Hank sure 3 former greats??? Worm has left ye's afaik and bomber is for America in may wouldn't have him near the place  ;) can't think of the other is it pinkie?

As far as I know Pinky has quit and I never ever remembered bomber or worm as regular starters for the Senior team. In fact I don't remember Pinky bein a regular on the Senior team, top B player though

thought i detected a bit of sarcasm in Hanks post about former greats - well def worm n bomber featured regularly for the Saran last year, still can't think of the other person. Hank are you out there??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 09, 2009, 08:34:51 AM
You have them lads.... Id say they are three greats in their own way!! ;D
I hadnt heard anythin about Pinky quitting, where did u hear this ogs head!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 09, 2009, 08:56:57 AM
Quote from: ogshead on January 08, 2009, 10:36:19 PM
Quote from: BenDover on January 08, 2009, 03:24:37 PM
well from what i've heard i think the lads accept that their da may not get the job and are still happy enuf to play for the Ogs.

LOL Hank sure 3 former greats??? Worm has left ye's afaik and bomber is for America in may wouldn't have him near the place  ;) can't think of the other is it pinkie?

As far as I know Pinky has quit and I never ever remembered bomber or worm as regular starters for the Senior team. In fact I don't remember Pinky bein a regular on the Senior team, top B player though

Pinky would have been a regular starter for the ogs in his early 20's. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 09, 2009, 11:39:57 AM
Quote from: hound of ulster on January 09, 2009, 11:06:39 AM
Any more news on the new team being formed by the ex- Killeavy member, is this really going to happen? And where will he get the players from?

AFAIK there will be objections going in from at least 2 surrounding clubs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on January 09, 2009, 11:40:59 AM
2009 Club Managers - Fill in the Blanks accordingly.

ACL – Division One
Carrickcruppen
Clan na Gael  - Gerard Skelton & Enda Brady
Crossmaglen -
Culloville
Dromintee - Colin Kelly
Killeavey
Mullaghbawn
Pearse Og - Brendan Hughes.
St Patrick's - Joe Mallon & Paul Rouse.
Sarsfields

ACL – Division Two
Ballyhegan
Ballymacnab
Clann Eireann
Granemore - John Toner
Harps - Nudie Hughes
Madden
Maghery
St Michael's
Silverbridge
Tir na nÓg - Aiden Farrell
Whitecross - Killian Finnegan
Wolfe Tone - Michael Magill

ACL – Division Three
Annaghmore - Aiden McGahan
An Port Mor
Belleek
Clonmore
Collegeland - Niall Gorman
Keady - John Toal
Lissummon
Middletown
St Paul's
St Peter's
Shane O'Neill's
Tullysaran - Audi Hamiliton

ACL – Division Four
Clady
Corrinshego
Crossmaglen II
Derrynoose
Dorsey Emmett's
Eire Og
Forkhill
Grange -Colm Toal, Tam Gribben & James O'Hagan
Mullaghbrack
O'Hanlon's
Phelim Brady's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on January 09, 2009, 11:45:10 AM
Quote from: full back on January 09, 2009, 11:39:57 AM
Quote from: hound of ulster on January 09, 2009, 11:06:39 AM
Any more news on the new team being formed by the ex- Killeavy member, is this really going to happen? And where will he get the players from?

AFAIK there will be objections going in from at least 2 surrounding clubs


Who would these clubs be FB?  Why would they object?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 09, 2009, 11:45:26 AM
Quote from: MOJO on January 09, 2009, 11:40:59 AM
St Patrick's - Joe Mallon & Paul Rouse.

Is that Rouse from Coalisland?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 09, 2009, 11:56:24 AM
... or Rouse from Brackaville?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 09, 2009, 12:04:42 PM
Dromintee Colin Kelly.

I would imagine the two clubs opposing would be ourselves and Killeavy although I have no idea.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 09, 2009, 12:17:38 PM
The proposal to affiliate St Michaels Killean (or maybe it's the objections to their affiliation) will be heard by a specially convened Co Board meeting/committee this week.  AFAIK there are 3 clubs with potential clashes of interest and may therefore object - Killeavey, Dromintee and the mighty Corrinshego.  Killeavey defo have lodged an objection, dont know what the other two are doing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on January 09, 2009, 12:28:58 PM
i heard John Toal is taking over at keady.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 09, 2009, 12:35:43 PM

It's a wonder they're not called St. Hugh's Killean.

What's the likelihood of the county board refusing this application given the potential cost to their coffers if they do?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on January 09, 2009, 04:01:58 PM
Rouse from Brackaville.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 09, 2009, 04:56:58 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on January 09, 2009, 04:22:35 PM
Does this part of Armagh really need another team ? It would be interesting to here from anyone who is in favour as to why another team might benefit the area and armagh football.

Not just that black and white.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on January 09, 2009, 08:19:27 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on January 09, 2009, 08:34:51 AM
You have them lads.... Id say they are three greats in their own way!! ;D
I hadnt heard anythin about Pinky quitting, where did u hear this ogs head!?

Was talking to someone the other week there who had said he'd quit. Don't know how reliable the info was but I'd heard it was because he pissed off because he never featured against the grange in the championship. As mentioned by someone earlier about him playing regularly for the Ogs in his early twenties. Think he was gettin on regularly in league games but I don't ever remember him making an impression on any Championship teams. He was a brilliant player for the B's though, regularly scoring 8 points a match!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 10, 2009, 12:54:56 PM

can't see how a killeen club benefits anyone, although killeavy have a very large catchment area and population.

Dromintee traditionally draw from the clontigora area which is technically killeavy territory and would i assume become morgan territory. that would have minimal effect as i don't think a footballers has come that road in 30 years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on January 10, 2009, 01:25:33 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on January 08, 2009, 07:31:21 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 06, 2009, 09:08:35 AM
New Harps manager ratified last night - Nudie Hughes.  Exiciting appointment from the club.
thats a good signin  won 2 all stars at left back and full forward..

He won 3 I think... Right corner back in '79 and corner forward in '85 and '88
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 10, 2009, 06:33:28 PM
Went down to the U21 games, I think we won by a point or so.

Four periods of 20 minutes. Not bad for this time of year, defence was a bit of a shambles though. The Cruppen ahlf back, can;t think of his name, was probably the pick.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2009, 08:15:16 PM
anyone else show up corn??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on January 12, 2009, 10:09:15 AM
Was going to take in the game yesterday but car broke down so didnt get the chance?

Any decent performances?  Who looks like they will make the cut?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on January 12, 2009, 10:29:26 AM
Quote from: corn02 on December 31, 2008, 10:55:00 AM
Crossmaglen (6): K Carragher, J Clarke, S Finnegan, F Hanratty, R Kelly, P McKeown
Tullysaran (3): A Conlon, R Conlon, C Mullan
Carrickcruppen (2): S Harold, J Magill
Dromintee (2): S Carroll, R McCoy
Madden (2): K Grimley, D McKenna
Pearse Og (2): R Clarke, S Clarke
Tir na nÓg (2): J Donnelly, M McAllister
Whitecross (2): A McCann, M Shields
Wolfe Tone (2): M Carson, G O'Neill
Ballyhegan (1): J McKeever
Belleek (1): S McCreesh
Clan na Gael (1): R McGuinness
Granemore (1): K Toner
Harps (1): M McConville
Killeavey (1): B Magee
Lissummon (1): P Rodgers
Maghery (1): S Forker
St John's (1): R McParland
St Patrick's (1): K Hoey
Sarsfields (1): E McGeown
Shane O'Neill's (1): D Fearon
Silverbridge (1): G McGarvey

any relation?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on January 12, 2009, 10:39:36 AM
Quote from: Joxer on January 12, 2009, 10:09:15 AM
Was going to take in the game yesterday but car broke down so didnt get the chance?

Any decent performances?  Who looks like they will make the cut?

Was at the match, pick was probably Henderson, who got 2-3 or 2-4, took his goals very well and did well from limited supply against the wind in the first half...

Miceal O Rourke was also good, hit some good frees, Clarke showed glimpses of class, though he did take about fourty steps for his goal!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on January 12, 2009, 10:46:39 AM
Anyone look like they wont make it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 12, 2009, 10:55:17 AM
The two midfielders didn't cover themselves in glory yesterday but its hard to judge someone at this time of year in those conditions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on January 12, 2009, 11:21:32 AM
The keeper had a bad start, fluffed a couple of kick outs straight to QUB men who pointed from it. The defence was a shambles in the first half and as the poster above said midfield did not shine, Vernon stood out for QUB though, hopefully he could translate that form to county...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 12, 2009, 11:50:22 AM
Quote from: Joxer on January 12, 2009, 10:46:39 AM
Anyone look like they wont make it?

Too early to make decisions like that either way. Most have said they were disappointed with the display, but it wasn't that bad. Queen's were the better side but the wind played a big part. For all who thought things were bad, did anyone ahve a terrible game? A few were average, a couple were decent and there were a few very good showings (Henderson, Rafferty, Smyth, two O Rourkes and Clarke.)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 12, 2009, 11:53:45 AM
I thought young MOR was quiet, apart from the free's.

Howard had him pretty much wrapped up, & he didn't have the pace to get out in front or away...

I'd agree with everything being said.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 12, 2009, 12:34:58 PM
I thought MOR junior played decent enough in the second half, won some good 50-50 balls.  I though McClelland was very good as well.  First half was brutal, the wind was bad alright but the passing and free taking was brutal, a lot of balls gave away cheaply.  Mackin will have to improve big time if he wants a shot at the championship i think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 12, 2009, 12:39:26 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 12, 2009, 11:53:45 AM
I thought young MOR was quiet, apart from the free's.

Howard had him pretty much wrapped up, & he didn't have the pace to get out in front or away...

I'd agree with everything being said.

First half he and Henderson were living off scraps. Second half he pointed three frees, but he also won a couple and won a good few 50/50 balls against a very able defender. I thought he played well but I had the blue-tinted glasses on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 12, 2009, 01:16:30 PM
is Mark McAllister of tthe U21s the same one who had the Celtic trial?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 12, 2009, 01:17:56 PM
yes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 12, 2009, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 12, 2009, 01:16:30 PM
is Mark McAllister of tthe U21s the same one who had the Celtic trial?

If he gets a move to Linfield I'd say that's the end we'll see of him!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on January 12, 2009, 02:52:24 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 12, 2009, 01:16:30 PM
is Mark McAllister of tthe U21s the same one who had the Celtic trial?

did he not actually sign for celtic then decided against it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 12, 2009, 05:06:08 PM
He did but apparently Dungannon swifts was more appealing  :D :D :D Oh how stupid decision come back to haunt .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 12, 2009, 05:24:11 PM
Maybe a smart decision and he was being realistic. He will end up at Glenavon by the looks of things.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 12, 2009, 05:28:31 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 12, 2009, 05:24:11 PM
Maybe a smart decision and he was being realistic. He will end up at Glenavon by the looks of things.

Agreed. Regular football at a higher standard  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 12, 2009, 05:29:52 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 12, 2009, 05:28:31 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 12, 2009, 05:24:11 PM
Maybe a smart decision and he was being realistic. He will end up at Glenavon by the looks of things.

Agreed. Regular football at a higher standard  :P

:D

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 12, 2009, 08:30:17 PM
I know its early days yet but any predictions for the leagues and championships this year?

Here's mine

Div1: Cross Clans
Runners Up: Ogs
Relegated: Cruppen & Culloville

Div2 Winners: Harps
Runners Up: Tír na nÓg or Maghery
Relegated: Tones & Whitecross

Div3 Winners: St Paul's
Runners up: Keady
Relegated: Lissummon & Clonmore

Div4 Winners: Eire Og
Runners Up: Cross II

SFC: Cross Clans
IFC: Culloville
JFC: Shane O'Neills

Div 2 will b pretty tight, apart from 3 clubs the rest are mid and north clubs so would expect plenty of heated derbies.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 13, 2009, 10:13:09 AM
Fitz how did you come with Cross :o what gave you that idea that Cross would win something ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on January 13, 2009, 10:28:09 AM
i reckon cullaville will stay up and sarsfields to go down.

In division 2 i think granmore will do very well.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 13, 2009, 10:45:44 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on January 13, 2009, 10:28:09 AM
i reckon cullaville will stay up and sarsfields to go down.

In division 2 i think granmore will do very well.



granemore have 3 men on the county panel this year, if they all make it Granemore might struggle without them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 13, 2009, 11:21:16 AM
McClelland, toner and ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 13, 2009, 11:22:04 AM
Quote from: The GAA on January 13, 2009, 11:21:16 AM
McClelland, toner and ?

Barry Toner...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 13, 2009, 11:23:32 AM

ah right.

there'll be two on the national league panel so
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on January 13, 2009, 12:22:46 PM
just  checking wether or not peadar toal is on the panel as i would have thought he would have received some game time by now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 13, 2009, 12:36:43 PM
Quote from: naka on January 13, 2009, 12:22:46 PM
just  checking wether or not peadar toal is on the panel as i would have thought he would have received some game time by now

Concentrating on soccer I believe.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 13, 2009, 02:03:16 PM
he's not listed in the official panel anyway. Pity
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: judas1 on January 13, 2009, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: gander on January 13, 2009, 02:03:16 PM
he's not listed in the official panel anyway. Pity
peadar toal is on the panel but is not listed on the mckenna cup squad, he is traning away, who knows you might see him this weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 13, 2009, 03:22:53 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 13, 2009, 10:13:09 AM
Fitz how did you come with Cross :o what gave you that idea that Cross would win something ???

happy?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on January 13, 2009, 09:43:40 PM
judas1,as far as i know if your not named on mckenna cup panel yon cannot feature,harte had this problemwith coney as he had squad named before coney decided to stay,but with your experience on cty committees maybe you know the rules ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 13, 2009, 10:24:31 PM
Quote from: rootthemout on January 13, 2009, 09:43:40 PM
judas1,as far as i know if your not named on mckenna cup panel yon cannot feature,harte had this problemwith coney as he had squad named before coney decided to stay,but with your experience on cty committees maybe you know the rules ;D

Was he not at trials with Crewe?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on January 14, 2009, 01:19:59 AM
Quote from: gander on January 13, 2009, 10:45:44 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on January 13, 2009, 10:28:09 AM
i reckon cullaville will stay up and sarsfields to go down.

In division 2 i think granmore will do very well.



granemore have 3 men on the county panel this year, if they all make it Granemore might struggle without them.

Good point Gander Graemore looked poor enough without K toner and McClelland the couple of times I seen them last year another possible absence would add to this.

Cullyhanna could also suffer in Div 1 with McKeever and Mackin (possibly) on county panel. Seen them a few times last year and without them 2 they would be seriously weaker.  Cullyhanna would miss them 2 alot more than some other Div teams would miss their county men.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 14, 2009, 11:00:28 AM
Don't think so, sure Cullyhanna finished third in Division 1 last year without Ciaran.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 14, 2009, 01:43:50 PM
Quote from: mackers on January 14, 2009, 11:00:28 AM
Don't think so, sure Cullyhanna finished third in Division 1 last year without Ciaran.

Did he not play quite a few games? Certainly played the first time against us. McDonnell seems to be a bit better in releasing players for club games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 14, 2009, 01:59:47 PM
Championship draws are apparently being drew tonight at the Co Board meeting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: judas1 on January 14, 2009, 02:07:28 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 13, 2009, 10:24:31 PM
Quote from: rootthemout on January 13, 2009, 09:43:40 PM
judas1,as far as i know if your not named on mckenna cup panel yon cannot feature,harte had this problemwith coney as he had squad named before coney decided to stay,but with your experience on cty committees maybe you know the rules ;D

Was he not at trials with Crewe?
dont think so.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 14, 2009, 02:10:30 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 14, 2009, 01:59:47 PM
Championship draws are apparently being drew tonight at the Co Board meeting.

The county Board are actually showing some iniative ;) miracles will never cease
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 14, 2009, 02:10:46 PM
Quote from: judas1 on January 14, 2009, 02:07:28 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 13, 2009, 10:24:31 PM
Quote from: rootthemout on January 13, 2009, 09:43:40 PM
judas1,as far as i know if your not named on mckenna cup panel yon cannot feature,harte had this problemwith coney as he had squad named before coney decided to stay,but with your experience on cty committees maybe you know the rules ;D

Was he not at trials with Crewe?
dont think so.

Did the Observer not carry this story?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 14, 2009, 02:13:03 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 14, 2009, 01:59:47 PM
Championship draws are apparently being drew tonight at the Co Board meeting.

Has the league been sorted or will it be tonight too?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 14, 2009, 03:04:08 PM
Dont know but I did hear that the league is down for starting either 5th April or 19th April (avoiding Easter), I'd imagine they are finalised by now.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on January 14, 2009, 08:10:39 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 14, 2009, 02:10:46 PM
Quote from: judas1 on January 14, 2009, 02:07:28 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 13, 2009, 10:24:31 PM
Quote from: rootthemout on January 13, 2009, 09:43:40 PM
judas1,as far as i know if your not named on mckenna cup panel yon cannot feature,harte had this problemwith coney as he had squad named before coney decided to stay,but with your experience on cty committees maybe you know the rules ;D

Was he not at trials with Crewe?
dont think so.

Did the Observer not carry this story?


one of the locals had this story a while back arite!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 14, 2009, 10:34:00 PM
Dromintee v Granemore.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: borderfox on January 14, 2009, 10:38:26 PM
Any word on the St michaels /Killeavy issue? Was it discussed at the AGM ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on January 14, 2009, 10:51:49 PM
madden play ballyhegan in intermediate!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 14, 2009, 11:07:18 PM
We got a nice easy draw in the 1st round. Cross!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on January 14, 2009, 11:46:36 PM
from orchardcounty:

ARMAGH FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP DRAWS – 2009

Senior Football Championship
1st Round
Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn
Killeavey v St Patrick's
Granemore v Dromintee
Maghery v Whitecross
Tir na nÓg v Carrickcruppen
Ballymacnab v Harps
Bye – Clann Eireann

[u1]Intermediate Football Championship[/u]
1st Round
Sarsfields v St Paul's
Ballyhegan v Madden
Culloville v Annaghmore
Collegeland v Wolfe Tone
Clonmore v Silverbridge
St Peter's v Lissummon
An Port Mor v St Michael's
Middletown v Keady

Junior Football Championship
1st Round
Forkhill v Belleek
Phelim Brady's v Killean
Grange v Shane O'Neill's
Tullysaran v Dorsey Emmett's
Mullaghbrack v O'Hanlon's
Crossmaglen II v Derrynoose
Corrinshego v Clady
Bye – Eire Og

Under-21 Football Championship
1st Round
Pearse Og v Harps
Middletown v St Paul's
St John's v Ballyhegan
Carrickcruppen v St Brigid's
Keady v Madden
Ballymacnab v Clann Eireann
Killeavey v Wolfe Tone
Clan na Gael v St Patrick's
Cavanakill Emmett's v Granemore
Culloville v Maghery
Corrinshego v Shane O'Neill's
Tir na nÓg v Dromintee
Mullaghbawn v Tullysaran
Byes – Eire Og, Sarsfields & Silverbridge

Minor Football Championship
Preliminary Round
St Patrick's v Shane O'Neill's
Ballyhegan v Tir na nÓg
Killeavey v Silverbridge
1st Round
Derrynoose v St John's
Cavanakill Emmett's v Grange
Culloville v Pearse Og
Maghery v Carrickcruppen
St Brigid's v Ballymacnab
Harps v Tullysaran
Forkhill v Middletown
Sarsfields v Keady
An Port Mor v Killeavey/Silverbridge
Clan na Gael v Wolfe Tone
Dromintee v Ballyhegan/Tir na nÓg
Madden v Eire Og
Granemore v St Patrick's/Shane O'Neill's
St Peter's v Clann Eireann
Crossmaglen v St Paul's
Mullaghbawn v Corrinshego


Cross or ogs dont have fixtures in senior championship....dunno why!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 14, 2009, 11:47:07 PM
Quote from: borderfox on January 14, 2009, 10:38:26 PM
Any word on the St michaels /Killeavy issue? Was it discussed at the AGM ?

Passed. St Michaels allowed to play
Think its the correct decison for the GAA, arent we all about the more active playing members and clubs the better, we want to increase our figures not turn people away

Hear also Killeavy v Cullyhanna in championship - thatl be a tight one
Bad night all round for Killeavy by the looks of it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on January 14, 2009, 11:49:46 PM
is this new club playing in the championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 14, 2009, 11:52:46 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on January 14, 2009, 11:49:46 PM
is this new club playing in the championship?

Phelim Brady's v Killean

Yes, great to see - two small clubs who were in needof their own identity against each other in the championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on January 14, 2009, 11:55:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on January 14, 2009, 11:51:28 PM
Why are Crossmaglen not in the U21 championship either?

Am I blind?

seen that aswell. cross make their own rules...must be entering the championship at a later stage!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on January 15, 2009, 12:26:00 AM
corrected version from orchard county


ARMAGH FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP DRAWS – 2009

Senior Football Championship
1st Round
Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn
Killeavey v St Patrick's
Granemore v Dromintee
Maghery v Whitecross
Tir na nÓg v Crossmalen
Pearse Og v Carrickcruppen
Ballymacnab v Harps
Bye – Clann Eireann

Intermediate Football Championship
1st Round
Sarsfields v St Paul's
Ballyhegan v Madden
Culloville v Annaghmore
Collegeland v Wolfe Tone
Clonmore v Silverbridge
St Peter's v Lissummon
An Port Mor v St Michael's
Middletown v Keady

Junior Football Championship
1st Round
Forkhill v Belleek
Phelim Brady's v Killean
Grange v Shane O'Neill's
Tullysaran v Dorsey Emmett's
Mullaghbrack v O'Hanlon's
Crossmaglen II v Derrynoose
Corrinshego v Clady
Bye – Eire Og

Under-21 Football Championship
1st Round
Pearse Og v Harps
Middletown v St Paul's
St John's v Ballyhegan
Carrickcruppen v St Brigid's
Keady v Madden
Ballymacnab v Clann Eireann
Killeavey v Wolfe Tone
Clan na Gael v St Patrick's
Cavanakill Emmett's v Granemore
Culloville v Maghery
Crossmaglen v Shane O'Neill's
Tir na nÓg v Dromintee
Mullaghbawn v Tullysaran
Byes – Eire Og, Sarsfields & Silverbridge

Minor Football Championship
Preliminary Round
St Patrick's v Shane O'Neill's
Ballyhegan v Tir na nÓg
Killeavey v Silverbridge
1st Round
Derrynoose v St John's
Cavanakill Emmett's v Grange
Culloville v Pearse Og
Maghery v Carrickcruppen
St Brigid's v Ballymacnab
Harps v Tullysaran
Forkhill v Middletown
Sarsfields v Keady
An Port Mor v Killeavey/Silverbridge
Clan na Gael v Wolfe Tone
Dromintee v Ballyhegan/Tir na nÓg
Madden v Eire Og
Granemore v St Patrick's/Shane O'Neill's
St Peter's v Clann Eireann
Crossmaglen v St Paul's
Mullaghbawn v Corrinshego
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 01:09:38 AM
Seven division II teams in the SFC?

Some interesting ties none the less
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 15, 2009, 08:38:54 AM
Why was the senior draw revised/corrected?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 15, 2009, 08:53:48 AM
Are the league and championship fixtures going to run like last year?  i.e.  will the league be played off before the championship begins?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 15, 2009, 09:09:08 AM
any dates yet??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 15, 2009, 09:18:23 AM
Quote from: holylandsniper on January 14, 2009, 11:52:46 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on January 14, 2009, 11:49:46 PM
is this new club playing in the championship?

Phelim Brady's v Killean

Yes, great to see - two small clubs who were in needof their own identity against each other in the championship

Are you being sarcastic? Bad day for Killeavy, worrying day for Dromintee too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 15, 2009, 09:23:06 AM
Good but dangerous draw for Harps.  Ogs will get it tough v Cruppen, Clan na Gael v 'Bawn 50/50, Granemore could give Dromintee a game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on January 15, 2009, 09:25:03 AM
money talks,could be difficult years ahead for killeavy and dromintee,heard he only wants senior side,how long till underage is set up and pulling players from these clubs who have done the work helping to develop the young lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 15, 2009, 09:27:18 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 15, 2009, 09:18:23 AM
Quote from: holylandsniper on January 14, 2009, 11:52:46 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on January 14, 2009, 11:49:46 PM
is this new club playing in the championship?

Phelim Brady's v Killean

Yes, great to see - two small clubs who were in needof their own identity against each other in the championship

Are you being sarcastic? Bad day for Killeavy, worrying day for Dromintee too.

How is this Corn?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: edendorkgael on January 15, 2009, 09:29:39 AM

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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 15, 2009, 09:31:34 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 15, 2009, 09:23:06 AM
Granemore could give Dromintee a game.

Certainly, I'd say Dromintee are wary but happy, Granemore are probably not too disappointed - chance to lay down a real marker for the future.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 15, 2009, 09:32:51 AM
Quote from: Off The Fence on January 15, 2009, 09:27:18 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 15, 2009, 09:18:23 AM
Quote from: holylandsniper on January 14, 2009, 11:52:46 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on January 14, 2009, 11:49:46 PM
is this new club playing in the championship?

Phelim Brady's v Killean

Yes, great to see - two small clubs who were in needof their own identity against each other in the championship



Are you being sarcastic? Bad day for Killeavy, worrying day for Dromintee too.

How is this Corn?

Basically what rootthemout is saying. They will probably have Jonesobor players on board who would be Dromintee usually. It is hard to know how it wil lgo, but I would say there will be a small trickle to the lub who would usually have gone to Dromintee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 15, 2009, 09:40:54 AM
Its just a senior team, not a Club. No under age structure
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 15, 2009, 10:05:25 AM
Quote from: Off The Fence on January 15, 2009, 09:40:54 AM
Its just a senior team, not a Club. No under age structure

Is that right? I would imagine it would be progressing with underage teams in the future?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 15, 2009, 10:06:40 AM
Corn
realistically, it will not have any impact on Dromintee seniors - in recent years who from Killean has played with Dromintee - and from the possibilities of people from Jonesboro who will make Dromintee B team? And they will be no treat to us as they wont be playing in same competitions as us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 15, 2009, 10:07:10 AM
Quote from: Off The Fence on January 15, 2009, 09:40:54 AM
Its just a senior team, not a Club. No under age structure
Initially, yes.  I'd imagine their application would have been thrown out if that's all they were bringing to the table.  It would be near impossible for a new club to enter numerous teams in their first year, they need time to grow.  If I were a member of Dromintee, Killeavey or Corrinshego I'd be very worried regarding the long term.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 15, 2009, 10:09:26 AM
Quote from: holylandsniper on January 15, 2009, 10:06:40 AM
Corn
realistically, it will not have any impact on Dromintee seniors - in recent years who from Killean has played with Dromintee - and from the possibilities of people from Jonesboro who will make Dromintee B team? And they will be no treat to us as they wont be playing in same competitions as us.


Quite condescending of Jonesboro there. We have two brothers from Jonesboro that would not be too far off the Championship team, unfortunately one player has to leave because of work. You never know who would come through the ranks from the village.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 15, 2009, 10:27:07 AM
Yes but my point is those from there that are interesting in playing football are with Dromintee - otheres that arent Dromintee were never going to have them - so Killean are doing Dromintee no harm in that case
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 15, 2009, 10:30:59 AM
Quote from: holylandsniper on January 15, 2009, 10:27:07 AM
Yes but my point is those from there that are interesting in playing football are with Dromintee - otheres that arent Dromintee were never going to have them - so Killean are doing Dromintee no harm in that case

In that case, but what about future players? There are plenty of groups of frineds from Jonesboro and Killean and, indeed, Dromintee and Killean. A young lad from the village might decide to go join the U14s at Killean because his mate is there, who is to say that he won't turn out a class act? But, obviously, Killeavy will be the worst affected.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 15, 2009, 10:42:20 AM
Yes but all i think ifs and buts,  corn it could well work the other way and it has in the past to benefit Dromintee - that a class act from Killean make friends in Dromintee Club area and therefore play with Dromintee

I think we have to look to both Camlough and Cullyhanna areas and see the benefits of a new club formed to cater for all - especially those not invoved with the club that was already there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 15, 2009, 10:57:39 AM
Quote from: Off The Fence on January 15, 2009, 09:40:54 AM
Its just a senior team, not a Club. No under age structure

Quote from: holylandsniper on January 15, 2009, 10:42:20 AM
Yes but all i think ifs and buts,  corn it could well work the other way and it has in the past to benefit Dromintee - that a class act from Killean make friends in Dromintee Club area and therefore play with Dromintee

I think we have to look to both Camlough and Cullyhanna areas and see the benefits of a new club formed to cater for all - especially those not invoved with the club that was already there.

I REPEAT

SENIOR TEAM ONLY,   NO CLUB!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 15, 2009, 11:00:11 AM
Quote from: holylandsniper on January 15, 2009, 10:42:20 AM
Yes but all i think ifs and buts,  corn it could well work the other way and it has in the past to benefit Dromintee - that a class act from Killean make friends in Dromintee Club area and therefore play with Dromintee

I think we have to look to both Camlough and Cullyhanna areas and see the benefits of a new club formed to cater for all - especially those not invoved with the club that was already there.

Yeah fair point, but as you say who from Killean plays for Dromintee?

OfftheFence, progression to club status will only be a few short years away.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 15, 2009, 11:04:40 AM
Quote from: Off The Fence on January 15, 2009, 10:57:39 AM
Quote from: Off The Fence on January 15, 2009, 09:40:54 AM
Its just a senior team, not a Club. No under age structure

Quote from: holylandsniper on January 15, 2009, 10:42:20 AM
Yes but all i think ifs and buts,  corn it could well work the other way and it has in the past to benefit Dromintee - that a class act from Killean make friends in Dromintee Club area and therefore play with Dromintee

I think we have to look to both Camlough and Cullyhanna areas and see the benefits of a new club formed to cater for all - especially those not invoved with the club that was already there.

I REPEAT

SENIOR TEAM ONLY,   NO CLUB!

Surely that's just an argument in semantics?  They are to all intents and purposes a new club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 15, 2009, 11:06:58 AM
Well from my understanding at the meeting last night, it was asked was there going to be an underage structure and it was said by the man himself that young people from Killean area would be playing for Killeavy at underage level.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 15, 2009, 11:11:38 AM
Quote from: Off The Fence on January 15, 2009, 11:06:58 AM
Well from my understanding at the meeting last night, it was asked was there going to be an underage structure and it was said by the man himself that young people from Killean area would be playing for Killeavy at underage level.

If this is the case it would mean that Killeavy is almost a feeder club for Killean
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 15, 2009, 11:16:12 AM
Quote from: Off The Fence on January 15, 2009, 11:06:58 AM
Well from my understanding at the meeting last night, it was asked was there going to be an underage structure and it was said by the man himself that young people from Killean area would be playing for Killeavy at underage level.



Well I could be wrong but I'm nearly 100% certain that I am not!

Was there anyone at the meeting last night that heard this? Benny?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 15, 2009, 11:30:00 AM
Some interesting draws there lads but i would say when you get half way thru the league then you'll have a better idea of the form and get better predictions

ARMAGH FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP DRAWS – 2009

Senior Football Championship
1st Round
Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn - Clans by 1pt - tight one.
Killeavey v St Patrick's - Killeavey by 2pts - that was hard to call, killeavey just on senior championship experience
Granemore v Dromintee - Dromintee by 4-5pts
Maghery v Whitecross - Maghery by 5pts
Tir na nÓg v Crossmalen - Cross by 14pts
Pearse Og v Carrickcruppen - Ogs by 3pts
Ballymacnab v Harps - Harps by 2pts
Bye – Clann Eireann - Clann Eireann by 1pt (after a reply)





Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 15, 2009, 11:34:43 AM
Quote from: illdecide on January 15, 2009, 11:30:00 AM
Some interesting draws there lads but i would say when you get half way thru the league then you'll have a better idea of the form and get better predictions

ARMAGH FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP DRAWS – 2009

Senior Football Championship
1st Round
Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn - Clans by 1pt - tight one.
Killeavey v St Patrick’s - Killeavey by 2pts - that was hard to call, killeavey just on senior championship experience
Granemore v Dromintee - Dromintee by 4-5pts
Maghery v Whitecross - Maghery by 5pts
Tir na nÓg v Crossmalen - Cross by 14pts
Pearse Og v Carrickcruppen - Ogs by 3pts
Ballymacnab v Harps - Harps by 2pts
Bye – Clann Eireann - Clann Eireann by 1pt (after a reply)

A Reply to what Illdecide?

Some good games

For what its worth:

Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn - Draw- Mullaghbawn win Replay.
Killeavey v St Patrick’s - Killeavey - Just.  Too much firepower
Granemore v Dromintee - Dromintee -7
Maghery v Whitecross - Maghery 3
Tir na nÓg v Crossmalen - Cross by 14pts with their second string
Pearse Og v Carrickcruppen - Tight, too tight nearly.  Upset a couple of years ago will still be in memory. Clarke to be difference
Ballymacnab v Harps - Harps by 5 or 6 points

Any good games in the intermediate?






Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 15, 2009, 11:38:36 AM
Quote from: AFS on January 15, 2009, 11:28:38 AM
Are they likely to be able to round up 15-20 lads in the next couple of months before the league starts? On that point, are they definitely competing in Div 4?

Yes they already have been training

On the club issue, although they've stated Junior team(i believe that was said at last nights meeting) only with no other particpating teams, they stil need to form a club and a committee to be a recognised so a club HAS been formed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 15, 2009, 12:16:04 PM
wouldnt know that, but would imagine they are non members
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 15, 2009, 01:02:08 PM
I told you hound, Killeavy are a feeder club now...........
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 15, 2009, 02:19:58 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on January 15, 2009, 12:59:27 PM
If this team/club has no underage structures how can they expect killeavy to triain the kids from killean knowing that when they develope they may jump ship,this team/club will do nothing but disrupt the great work that has started at killeavy underage. if the plan is for underage teams,then the children of killean will be done a great diservice as it takes years do develope undeage structures and the numbers are not there to make this viable.

Sure this was happening with amalgamated teams and there were lads on here saying it was correct. No team or mentor should be ask to train cubs till under fourteen or any age to have them grow up and move to another club. Especially clubs that could be knocking your club out of a  senior championship . It is wrong and it will only become increasingly more difficult to get people on board to train younger teams because they know their future no longer lies with your club. It used to be a given right that the kids would grow up to play senior football for the club. With the changes in society and all other distraction the numbers coming through are decreasing year by year certainly at my own club. These amalgamated teams and new teams springing up are only further increasing the problem. What has this Killean team came out of a row?? It's a joke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 15, 2009, 02:27:35 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on January 15, 2009, 12:59:27 PM
If this team/club has no underage structures how can they expect killeavy to triain the kids from killean knowing that when they develope they may jump ship,this team/club will do nothing but disrupt the great work that has started at killeavy underage. if the plan is for underage teams,then the children of killean will be done a great diservice as it takes years do develope undeage structures and the numbers are not there to make this viable.

Could Killeavy not just block transfer requests down the line?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 15, 2009, 02:32:42 PM
yeah corn that is ok in practice but you know i know there are ways around everything . Plus if you refuse transfers then the players may just leave. Either way Killeavy will be losing them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 02:34:13 PM
killeavy should enter a seconds team in div4 like they used to,I'm sure there'd be no love lost when the two meet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 15, 2009, 02:35:49 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 15, 2009, 02:32:42 PM
yeah corn that is ok in practice but you know i know there are ways around everything . Plus if you refuse transfers then the players may just leave. Either way Killeavy will be losing them.

Yeah true enough. I'd say there has been some fall out over it. It is hard to see where they will get 20 non-members. The standard of the Junior Championship is quite high.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 02:48:01 PM
How can these lads play for a club that has been formed for all the wrong reasons?
How can you have any sense of pride in the jersey given the circumstances?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 15, 2009, 03:06:19 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 02:48:01 PM
How can these lads play for a club that has been formed for all the wrong reasons?
How can you have any sense of pride in the jersey given the circumstances?

Time is a great shield. I may be naive, but I expect it to be a short-term venture.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 03:08:24 PM
I don't know. They have the money to survive so thats half the battle already
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 15, 2009, 03:53:46 PM
I wonder what sort of reception the idea would have gotten at Co board level if it hadn't have been Hughie's baby??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 15, 2009, 05:22:49 PM
I'm slow on these things...i take it you guys are refeering to Mr Morgan???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bitta-Banter on January 15, 2009, 07:34:59 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 02:48:01 PM
How can these lads play for a club that has been formed for all the wrong reasons?
How can you have any sense of pride in the jersey given the circumstances?
Sorry ive missed this.What are the circumstances that this club have been formed?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: Bitta-Banter on January 15, 2009, 07:34:59 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 02:48:01 PM
How can these lads play for a club that has been formed for all the wrong reasons?
How can you have any sense of pride in the jersey given the circumstances?
Sorry ive missed this.What are the circumstances that this club have been formed?

Not sure of the exact details but an apparent fall out at Killeavy has led to this club being formed in a neighbouring parish
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 15, 2009, 08:29:51 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: Bitta-Banter on January 15, 2009, 07:34:59 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 02:48:01 PM
How can these lads play for a club that has been formed for all the wrong reasons?
How can you have any sense of pride in the jersey given the circumstances?
Sorry ive missed this.What are the circumstances that this club have been formed?

Not sure of the exact details but an apparent fall out at Killeavy has led to this club being formed in a neighbouring parish
But you dont know what the fall out reasons are fitz? Or what the circumstances are?
So how can you say what you did?

For all the talk on this club Ive yet to hear of the reasons, maybe they are the wrong reasons maybe they're not but if you dont know how can you make such a statement?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 08:54:22 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 15, 2009, 08:29:51 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: Bitta-Banter on January 15, 2009, 07:34:59 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 02:48:01 PM
How can these lads play for a club that has been formed for all the wrong reasons?
How can you have any sense of pride in the jersey given the circumstances?
Sorry ive missed this.What are the circumstances that this club have been formed?

Not sure of the exact details but an apparent fall out at Killeavy has led to this club being formed in a neighbouring parish
But you dont know what the fall out reasons are fitz? Or what the circumstances are?
So how can you say what you did?

For all the talk on this club Ive yet to hear of the reasons, maybe they are the wrong reasons maybe they're not but if you dont know how can you make such a statement?

I don't know the exact politics and don't really need to, what is clear is that a disaffected ex-member of Killeavy is spear-heading this. There is no apparent need for a new club in the area either, so it kind of narrows the scope down that the club has been formed for reasons other than the promotion of Gaelic games. No Underage teams have been registered either from what I can gather, just a senior team.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 15, 2009, 09:08:12 PM
Quote
I don't know the exact politics and don't really need to, what is clear is that a disaffected ex-member of Killeavy is spear-heading this. There is no apparent need for a new club in the area either, so it kind of narrows the scope down that the club has been formed for reasons other than the promotion of Gaelic games. No Underage teams have been registered either from what I can gather, just a senior team.
Unbelievable, you don't know what you're talking about or anything about the situation but feel you can mouth?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on January 15, 2009, 09:40:41 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 15, 2009, 11:11:55 AM
That can't be true. They'd just be a glorified Killeavy B team then, not a real club.

Are there any other clubs in the country that make no effort at underage level?

Yep, Mullabrack!! No underage structure and a lot of ex Ogs and Harps players. Shows no sign of slowing down either as I have heard of a few more players that maybe headin in that direction too. Mullabrack not a big area for GAA and the players going aren't gonna be a big miss to the town's senior teams so it's not a big deal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 15, 2009, 09:48:14 PM
Quote from: ogshead on January 15, 2009, 09:40:41 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 15, 2009, 11:11:55 AM
That can't be true. They'd just be a glorified Killeavy B team then, not a real club.

Are there any other clubs in the country that make no effort at underage level?

Yep, Mullabrack!! No underage structure and a lot of ex Ogs and Harps players. Shows no sign of slowing down either as I have heard of a few more players that maybe headin in that direction too. Mullabrack not a big area for GAA and the players going aren't gonna be a big miss to the town's senior teams so it's not a big deal.

But Mullaghbrack used to field underage teams, so they aren't the same.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 15, 2009, 09:57:46 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 15, 2009, 09:08:12 PM
Quote
I don't know the exact politics and don't really need to, what is clear is that a disaffected ex-member of Killeavy is spear-heading this. There is no apparent need for a new club in the area either, so it kind of narrows the scope down that the club has been formed for reasons other than the promotion of Gaelic games. No Underage teams have been registered either from what I can gather, just a senior team.
Unbelievable, you don't know what you're talking about or anything about the situation but feel you can mouth?


How different is he from the majority on the board though, and before you get humpy that's not a personal cut at you!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 15, 2009, 10:01:08 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 15, 2009, 09:57:46 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 15, 2009, 09:08:12 PM
Quote
I don't know the exact politics and don't really need to, what is clear is that a disaffected ex-member of Killeavy is spear-heading this. There is no apparent need for a new club in the area either, so it kind of narrows the scope down that the club has been formed for reasons other than the promotion of Gaelic games. No Underage teams have been registered either from what I can gather, just a senior team.
Unbelievable, you don't know what you're talking about or anything about the situation but feel you can mouth?


How different is he from the majority on the board though, and before you get humpy that's not a personal cut at you!!!
Well it's not BC because others maybe comment on what they hear or maybe rumours, they might be wrong but at least it's based on something.  Fitz has made a strong judgement when he doesnt have a clue what happened in Killeavey, he doesnt even have a rumour or a second hand account base his opinion on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 10:04:54 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 15, 2009, 09:08:12 PM
Quote
I don't know the exact politics and don't really need to, what is clear is that a disaffected ex-member of Killeavy is spear-heading this. There is no apparent need for a new club in the area either, so it kind of narrows the scope down that the club has been formed for reasons other than the promotion of Gaelic games. No Underage teams have been registered either from what I can gather, just a senior team.
Unbelievable, you don't know what you're talking about or anything about the situation but feel you can mouth?


How exactly am I mouthing? A new club is being formed as a result of a fallout at an existing club. Regardless of who was involved in or what was said, this is not the basis on which a new GAA club should be formed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 15, 2009, 10:08:01 PM
I dont want to get in with a big thing with you as it really doesnt matter, I'm just baffled how you can say this:

QuoteHow can these lads play for a club that has been formed for all the wrong reasons?
How can you have any sense of pride in the jersey given the circumstances?

when you've no idea what the reasons were.  Maybe he has a legimiate reason for falling out with the club? You don't know. 
I'll hold off making judgement on this new club until I hear what's gone on among them and the reasons for it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 10:14:02 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 15, 2009, 10:08:01 PM
I dont want to get in with a big thing with you as it really doesnt matter, I'm just baffled how you can say this:

QuoteHow can these lads play for a club that has been formed for all the wrong reasons?
How can you have any sense of pride in the jersey given the circumstances?

when you've no idea what the reasons were.  Maybe he has a legimiate reason for falling out with the club? You don't know. 
I'll hold off making judgement on this new club until I hear what's gone on among them and the reasons for it.

I am not disputing he had a legitimate reason to fallout with the club. What I do feel is that it is not within the spirit of the GAA to go and form another club because of it. Ask the Ballygawley folk. For the record I have heard some reasons as to why there was a fallout and on which I base my opinion, but they are from unreliable sources such as hearsay and internet forums
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 15, 2009, 10:15:54 PM
What were the reasons for the fall out then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 10:18:26 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 15, 2009, 10:15:54 PM
What were the reasons for the fall out then?

Since they are rumours...

Something to do with the Killeavy IIs team (not the Bs), also to do with players playing for soccer clubs being banned from playing senior football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 15, 2009, 10:19:50 PM
So where does Morgan come in to it then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 10:20:42 PM
Don't know. Ask someone from Killeavy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 16, 2009, 08:22:08 AM
QuoteAsk the Ballygawley folk

Or even the Glencull folk.

Pints you on the blob again?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on January 16, 2009, 09:27:20 AM
When are the championship draws?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 16, 2009, 09:28:15 AM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on January 16, 2009, 09:27:20 AM
When are the championship draws?

Take a look about 2 pages back and you'll get your answer!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 16, 2009, 09:32:21 AM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on January 16, 2009, 09:27:20 AM
When are the championship draws?

You got a handy draw anyway, Newtown ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on January 16, 2009, 09:48:23 AM
Easy wins in senior and minor.  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on January 16, 2009, 09:50:34 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 15, 2009, 08:29:51 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 08:26:51 PM
Quote from: Bitta-Banter on January 15, 2009, 07:34:59 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2009, 02:48:01 PM
How can these lads play for a club that has been formed for all the wrong reasons?
How can you have any sense of pride in the jersey given the circumstances?
Sorry ive missed this.What are the circumstances that this club have been formed?

Not sure of the exact details but an apparent fall out at Killeavy has led to this club being formed in a neighbouring parish
But you dont know what the fall out reasons are fitz? Or what the circumstances are?
So how can you say what you did?

For all the talk on this club Ive yet to hear of the reasons, maybe they are the wrong reasons maybe they're not but if you dont know how can you make such a statement?

Take it as given that this club has little or no support within the Killeavy club. It is a one man crusade to cause conflict and upheavel. However whilst the playing numbers in this
part of the parish might be small, the ability of this man to lobby and pounce on opportunities shouldn't be underestimated. There may be no immediately obvious damage to the
killeavy club but only time will tell if damage is done.

As for having no underage set-up the numbers wouldn't be high enough to enable this club to field at underage level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 16, 2009, 10:01:30 AM
Who got the Clans job last night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 16, 2009, 10:28:50 AM
Anyone for Breffni? Wasn't going to bother, but there are a good few Dromintee men starting so might head up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 16, 2009, 10:49:55 AM
Since noone seems to know the ins and outs of the fal out in killeavy....

a few years ago the newly elected chairman began an overhaul of what is arguably a sleeping gant of armagh football. he began changing various things in the club and bringing new people in. happy days says everyone. a few months down the line and executive meetings began turning into announcements of policy and decisions already made. committee members soon lose their patience in not having any say in club affairs and the club turning into a de facto dictatorship. there were stormy meetings and talk of votes of no confidence, etc. as people looked control of their club back.

one of the proclaimations announced was that any player who is concurrently playing soccer (half the killeavy senior tea at the time played soccer for killeavy united or shanro on a sat) would not be allowed to play for the club. those players walked out and the rest were not happy bunnies. the chairman was soon told where to syick his new policy and the soccer lads returned and through the jigs and the reels and the build of of constant conflict in the club the chairman quit. he soon declared he would be starting his own toytown in killeen.

All very strange for a man who never went to a county game til about ten years ago, a club game til well after that and openly dreided people who did for most of his life.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 16, 2009, 10:52:14 AM
Quote from: full back on January 16, 2009, 10:01:30 AM
Who got the Clans job last night?

As far as i'm aware it went to Gerard Skelton & Enda Brady, i'll confirm that later today...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 16, 2009, 10:56:20 AM
Lads wel'll just have to be wary of getting too specific here, legal implications and all that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 16, 2009, 11:00:30 AM

I can stand over every word of that and there are no names mentioned anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 16, 2009, 11:04:13 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 16, 2009, 11:00:30 AM

I can stand over every word of that and there are no names mentioned anyway

Well you are still hearing them in the secondary source unless you were at the meetings. As regards names, I was referring to other posts there that mentioned the person.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 16, 2009, 11:05:59 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 16, 2009, 10:28:50 AM
Anyone for Breffni? Wasn't going to bother, but there are a good few Dromintee men starting so might head up.

What's the team?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on January 16, 2009, 11:22:50 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 16, 2009, 08:22:08 AM
QuoteAsk the Ballygawley folk

Or even the Glencull folk.

Pints you on the blob again?


:D :D :D :D

Cheeky as f**k
But funny as f**k too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 16, 2009, 11:25:32 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 16, 2009, 11:04:13 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 16, 2009, 11:00:30 AM

I can stand over every word of that and there are no names mentioned anyway

Well you are still hearing them in the secondary source unless you were at the meetings. As regards names, I was referring to other posts there that mentioned the person.

In fairness Corn its hardly much of a secret. Certainly don't think there's been anything libellous on the thread. As far as the underage sides debate goes, to be fair to Killean it would be almost impossible for them to field at underage level this year. They need some time to build the necessary structures as a club and its fair enough to begin with a senior team so long as they have the intention to eventually set up underage sides. Dorsey did the same. Have Phelim Brady's any underage teams yet?

As for the championship draw, I'm just glad we didn't get Cross. We beat Killeavy comfortably twice last year just before they hit their great run of form. Probably a 50 / 50 match really. The two star players from each side will probably even each other out. Good to be back at the top table anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on January 16, 2009, 11:26:55 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 16, 2009, 10:49:55 AM

Since noone seems to know the ins and outs of the fal out in killeavy....

a few years ago the newly elected chairman began an overhaul of what is arguably a sleeping gant of armagh football. he began changing various things in the club and bringing new people in. happy days says everyone. a few months down the line and executive meetings began turning into announcements of policy and decisions already made. committee members soon lose their patience in not having any say in club affairs and the club turning into a de facto dictatorship. there were stormy meetings and talk of votes of no confidence, etc. as people looked control of their club back.

one of the proclaimations announced was that any player who is concurrently playing soccer (half the killeavy senior tea at the time played soccer for killeavy united or shanro on a sat). those players walked out and the rest were not happy bunnies. the chairman was soon told where to syick his new policy and the soccer lads returned and through the jigs and the reels and the build of of constant conflict in the club the chairman quit. he soon declared he would be starting his own toytown in killeen.

All very strange for a man who never went to a county game til about ten years ago, a club game til well after that and openly dreided people who did for most of his life.

That would be a fairly accurate description of what has happened, a democracy turned into a dictatorship, fall-outs followed and led to the resignation of the then chairman. He in turn has decided this new club would be a way of getting back at the committee and because of his financial muscle and power with the county board his wish was granted.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 16, 2009, 11:27:44 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 16, 2009, 11:25:32 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 16, 2009, 11:04:13 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 16, 2009, 11:00:30 AM

I can stand over every word of that and there are no names mentioned anyway

Well you are still hearing them in the secondary source unless you were at the meetings. As regards names, I was referring to other posts there that mentioned the person.

In fairness Corn its hardly much of a secret. Certainly don't think there's been anything libellous on the thread. As far as the underage sides debate goes, to be fair to Killean it would be almost impossible for them to field at underage level this year. They need some time to build the necessary structures as a club and its fair enough to begin with a senior team so long as they have the intention to eventually set up underage sides. Dorsey did the same. Have Phelim Brady's any underage teams yet?

As for the championship draw, I'm just glad we didn't get Cross. We beat Killeavy comfortably twice last year just before they hit their great run of form. Probably a 50 / 50 match really. The two star players from each side will probably even each other out. Good to be back at the top table anyway.

I know that he is accurate TAC, and there has been nothing libellous at all. Just considering the story, people involved etc, it will get back to them and you wouldn't know what they would do. Just trying to keep our hands clean lads, I am not Fat Tony in the corner giving a sinister warning.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Roddy on January 16, 2009, 11:34:07 AM
Can any of you Orchard Men spread any light on Aidan Clarke who managed Perase Ogs last year? What sort of trainer, coach etc is he?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on January 16, 2009, 11:37:40 AM
There may be another new club forming in South Armagh if a fall out in an existing club is the only criteria needed. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 16, 2009, 11:39:10 AM
Quote from: crossfire on January 16, 2009, 11:37:40 AM
There may be another new club forming in South Armagh if a fall out in an existing club is the only criteria needed. ;) ;)

Where's this now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 16, 2009, 11:52:18 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 16, 2009, 11:25:32 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 16, 2009, 11:04:13 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 16, 2009, 11:00:30 AM

I can stand over every word of that and there are no names mentioned anyway

Well you are still hearing them in the secondary source unless you were at the meetings. As regards names, I was referring to other posts there that mentioned the person.

In fairness Corn its hardly much of a secret. Certainly don't think there's been anything libellous on the thread. As far as the underage sides debate goes, to be fair to Killean it would be almost impossible for them to field at underage level this year. They need some time to build the necessary structures as a club and its fair enough to begin with a senior team so long as they have the intention to eventually set up underage sides. Dorsey did the same. Have Phelim Brady's any underage teams yet?

As for the championship draw, I'm just glad we didn't get Cross. We beat Killeavy comfortably twice last year just before they hit their great run of form. Probably a 50 / 50 match really. The two star players from each side will probably even each other out. Good to be back at the top table anyway.

Could you enlighten us TAC as to the two "star" players from each side are?  I'm Guessing McKeever and Stevie are two, the others?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 16, 2009, 11:52:51 AM
Just to stir the pot a bit... Will Joe Kernan take over the reigns at Killean now?  ::)

His sons to follow him next?  :P

by the way how did the split occur in Camlough? - Was it to do with the hunger strike or something?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 16, 2009, 11:53:31 AM
Im guessing Mackin & Stanfield
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 16, 2009, 11:59:28 AM
Jesus hey that is a quare guess!

Wouldnt exactly go that far know FB

But I suppose I know where he is coming from.  Word is Mackin was one of the best midfielders in Division 1 last year.  i'd say Cullyhanna will be looking a repeat performance this year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on January 16, 2009, 12:13:25 PM
Quote from: Wee Roddy on January 16, 2009, 11:34:07 AM
Can any of you Orchard Men spread any light on Aidan Clarke who managed Perase Ogs last year? What sort of trainer, coach etc is he?

he doesnt seem to be too bad! second in the league and championship two years running behind cross! if he had the same ogs team and cross were as dominant then im sure he would have a chmapionship won by now!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 16, 2009, 12:16:07 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 16, 2009, 11:39:10 AM
Quote from: crossfire on January 16, 2009, 11:37:40 AM
There may be another new club forming in South Armagh if a fall out in an existing club is the only criteria needed. ;) ;)

Where's this now?

Not too far from Forde's Cross.


Quote from: Off The Fence on January 16, 2009, 11:52:18 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 16, 2009, 11:25:32 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 16, 2009, 11:04:13 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 16, 2009, 11:00:30 AM

I can stand over every word of that and there are no names mentioned anyway

Well you are still hearing them in the secondary source unless you were at the meetings. As regards names, I was referring to other posts there that mentioned the person.

In fairness Corn its hardly much of a secret. Certainly don't think there's been anything libellous on the thread. As far as the underage sides debate goes, to be fair to Killean it would be almost impossible for them to field at underage level this year. They need some time to build the necessary structures as a club and its fair enough to begin with a senior team so long as they have the intention to eventually set up underage sides. Dorsey did the same. Have Phelim Brady's any underage teams yet?

As for the championship draw, I'm just glad we didn't get Cross. We beat Killeavy comfortably twice last year just before they hit their great run of form. Probably a 50 / 50 match really. The two star players from each side will probably even each other out. Good to be back at the top table anyway.

Could you enlighten us TAC as to the two "star" players from each side are?  I'm Guessing McKeever and Stevie are two, the others?

Sorry I worded that badly, I was just referring to Stevie and Ciaran. Chances are they'd end up marking each other.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 16, 2009, 12:50:08 PM
Any word of manager for the Clans?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 16, 2009, 12:59:25 PM
Quote from: Off The Fence on January 16, 2009, 12:50:08 PM
Any word of manager for the Clans?

Yes, Gerard Skelton and Enda Brady
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 16, 2009, 01:09:45 PM
with assistance from illdecide???

Now that hughie abramovic has his own club, is there any word on his potiential transfer targets ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 16, 2009, 01:23:12 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 16, 2009, 12:59:25 PM
Quote from: Off The Fence on January 16, 2009, 12:50:08 PM
Any word of manager for the Clans?

Yes, Gerard Skelton and Enda Brady

Heard Ger Reid was there too?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 16, 2009, 01:59:42 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on January 16, 2009, 01:09:45 PM
with assistance from illdecide???

Now that hughie abramovic has his own club, is there any word on his potiential transfer targets ?

word is Kaka has held secret talks with them in a last ditch bid to scupper the City deal,  Though sources at St Michaels have refuted this, due to Mr Morgans distaste for the ground game! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 16, 2009, 03:12:30 PM
Quote from: Wee Roddy on January 16, 2009, 11:34:07 AM
Can any of you Orchard Men spread any light on Aidan Clarke who managed Perase Ogs last year? What sort of trainer, coach etc is he?

Ok, I'll ask.  Where is he off to then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 16, 2009, 03:13:53 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 16, 2009, 03:12:30 PM
Quote from: Wee Roddy on January 16, 2009, 11:34:07 AM
Can any of you Orchard Men spread any light on Aidan Clarke who managed Perase Ogs last year? What sort of trainer, coach etc is he?

Ok, I'll ask.  Where is he off to then?
::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 16, 2009, 03:17:35 PM
Wee Roddy making mischief, not me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tyrone86 on January 16, 2009, 03:32:56 PM
Well, Roddy's from Carrickmore so 2+2 = 7?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 16, 2009, 03:59:12 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 16, 2009, 03:17:35 PM
Wee Roddy making mischief, not me.

aye i know
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 16, 2009, 04:45:24 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on January 16, 2009, 01:09:45 PM
with assistance from illdecide???

Now that hughie abramovic has his own club, is there any word on his potiential transfer targets ?

sorry forgot to mention...Ger Reid as a defensive coach and Paul Freddie Henderson as a forward coach.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on January 16, 2009, 04:52:14 PM
2009 Club Managers - Fill in the Blanks accordingly.

ACL – Division One
Carrickcruppen
Clan na Gael  - Gerard Skelton & Enda Brady
Crossmaglen -
Culloville
Dromintee - Colin Kelly
Killeavey
Mullaghbawn
Pearse Og
St Patrick's - Joe Mallon & Paul Rouse.
Sarsfields

ACL – Division Two
Ballyhegan
Ballymacnab
Clann Eireann
Granemore - John Toner
Harps - Nudie Hughes
Madden
Maghery
St Michael's
Silverbridge
Tir na nÓg - Aiden Farrell
Whitecross - Killian Finnegan
Wolfe Tone - Michael Magill

ACL – Division Three
Annaghmore
An Port Mor
Belleek
Clonmore
Collegeland - Niall Gorman
Keady
Lissummon
Middletown
St Paul's
St Peter's
Shane O'Neill's
Tullysaran - Audi Hamiliton

ACL – Division Four
Clady
Corrinshego
Crossmaglen II
Derrynoose
Dorsey Emmett's
Eire Og
Forkhill
Grange -Colm Toal, Tam Gribben & James O'Hagan
Mullaghbrack
O'Hanlon's
Phelim Brady's
Killean
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 16, 2009, 06:54:45 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 16, 2009, 10:49:55 AM
Since noone seems to know the ins and outs of the fal out in killeavy....

a few years ago the newly elected chairman began an overhaul of what is arguably a sleeping gant of armagh football. he began changing various things in the club and bringing new people in. happy days says everyone. a few months down the line and executive meetings began turning into announcements of policy and decisions already made. committee members soon lose their patience in not having any say in club affairs and the club turning into a de facto dictatorship. there were stormy meetings and talk of votes of no confidence, etc. as people looked control of their club back.

one of the proclaimations announced was that any player who is concurrently playing soccer (half the killeavy senior tea at the time played soccer for killeavy united or shanro on a sat) would not be allowed to play for the club. those players walked out and the rest were not happy bunnies. the chairman was soon told where to syick his new policy and the soccer lads returned and through the jigs and the reels and the build of of constant conflict in the club the chairman quit. he soon declared he would be starting his own toytown in killeen.

All very strange for a man who never went to a county game til about ten years ago, a club game til well after that and openly dreided people who did for most of his life.
Well thanks for clearing that up, sounds familiar.  Doesn't sound like a good basis for a club but at least he had the dignity to walk away when he wasn't wanted rather than try to hold on to power and maybe take the club down with him.  Killeavy can count themselves lucky on that basis and on the basis that it's just money behind him and not a political party and their scum bag, pea brain, supporters. 
Hard to see the club lasting if he wants a dictatorship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on January 16, 2009, 06:58:43 PM
Anyone know if tomorrow's game is on radio?  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 16, 2009, 07:02:46 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 16, 2009, 06:54:45 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 16, 2009, 10:49:55 AM
Since noone seems to know the ins and outs of the fal out in killeavy....

a few years ago the newly elected chairman began an overhaul of what is arguably a sleeping gant of armagh football. he began changing various things in the club and bringing new people in. happy days says everyone. a few months down the line and executive meetings began turning into announcements of policy and decisions already made. committee members soon lose their patience in not having any say in club affairs and the club turning into a de facto dictatorship. there were stormy meetings and talk of votes of no confidence, etc. as people looked control of their club back.

one of the proclaimations announced was that any player who is concurrently playing soccer (half the killeavy senior tea at the time played soccer for killeavy united or shanro on a sat) would not be allowed to play for the club. those players walked out and the rest were not happy bunnies. the chairman was soon told where to syick his new policy and the soccer lads returned and through the jigs and the reels and the build of of constant conflict in the club the chairman quit. he soon declared he would be starting his own toytown in killeen.

All very strange for a man who never went to a county game til about ten years ago, a club game til well after that and openly dreided people who did for most of his life.
Well thanks for clearing that up, sounds familiar.  Doesn't sound like a good basis for a club but at least he had the dignity to walk away when he wasn't wanted rather than try to hold on to power and maybe take the club down with him.  Killeavy can count themselves lucky on that basis and on the basis that it's just money behind him and not a political party and their scum bag, pea brain, supporters. 
Hard to see the club lasting if he wants a dictatorship.

An increasingly familiar story
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 16, 2009, 07:08:49 PM
Some clubs will not be used by the c***ts! Some people would rather have no club than to see it being used for all the wrong reasons.
Those who want to sneer can sneer all they want.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaahead2008 on January 16, 2009, 07:58:26 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on January 15, 2009, 01:36:01 PM
if the underage coaches that are with killeavy at the moment continue the work they are doing with the kids , and the committe is proactive, this team will not last, if they set back and let the grass grow , there could be trouble ahead.

I actually cant believe that the local killeavey gaels would let this happen, did they not object through the county board?

i know people will draw comparisons to how things happened in camlough, but i cant see how this would be a positive step for gaa in the area - the youth structure in killeavey may tighten up otherwise by the time the lads reach senior standrd they may leave....although if the man himself is coach / manager/ trainer / sponsor / waterboy / kitboy / fixture secretary / chairperson / treasurer / gatesman county board rep   etc etc for this newly found team / club it might not last a season!!

just out of curiousity has he got much backing from within the club?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 16, 2009, 09:53:18 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on January 16, 2009, 03:59:12 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 16, 2009, 03:17:35 PM
Wee Roddy making mischief, not me.

aye i know

Wee Roddy might not be so late!! :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on January 16, 2009, 10:20:22 PM

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Quote from: Carmen Stateside on January 16, 2009, 09:53:18 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on January 16, 2009, 03:59:12 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 16, 2009, 03:17:35 PM
Wee Roddy making mischief, not me.

aye i know

Wee Roddy might not be so late!! :)

There have been a few whispers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mattockranger on January 16, 2009, 10:50:44 PM
Armagh U21's beat the louth U21's tonight....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 17, 2009, 11:52:10 AM
Would be very very suprised if Killeavy join with them at underage
Teams only join at underage if there is a shortage of players, Killeavy have no such problem there with upwards of 50 children out training on a Sunday morning during the season

Bit of upheavel in your club pints?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 11:54:47 AM
QuoteBit of upheavel in your club pints?
What makes you think that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 17, 2009, 12:03:34 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 11:54:47 AM
QuoteBit of upheavel in your club pints?
What makes you think that?

The AGM would probably be a start. That and you've been giving off about Republicans supposedly trying to take over clubs for weeks now. Most clubs don't have such issues so we can only assume you're talking about your own club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 12:17:09 PM
QuoteThat and you've been giving off about Republicans supposedly trying to take over clubs for weeks now.
What? Ive agreed with "The GAA" in one thread about a fortnight ago, when have I been "giving off" for weeks?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 17, 2009, 12:18:54 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 12:17:09 PM
QuoteThat and you've been giving off about Republicans supposedly trying to take over clubs for weeks now.
What? Ive agreed with "The GAA" in one thread about a fortnight ago, when have I been "giving off" for weeks?

Well I thought I'd seen it more than once. Fair enough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 17, 2009, 12:19:50 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 11:54:47 AM
QuoteBit of upheavel in your club pints?
What makes you think that?

Is there any truth in it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 12:23:46 PM
Quote from: full back on January 17, 2009, 12:19:50 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 11:54:47 AM
QuoteBit of upheavel in your club pints?
What makes you think that?

Is there any truth in it?
I'm not being awkward or smart but truth in what exactly? What's been said?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 17, 2009, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 12:23:46 PM
Quote from: full back on January 17, 2009, 12:19:50 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 11:54:47 AM
QuoteBit of upheavel in your club pints?
What makes you think that?

Is there any truth in it?
I'm not being awkward or smart but truth in what exactly? What's been said?

Had a quick scan through your posts Pints and you were saying about it a couple of days back and before that a couple of weeks back so technically I was correct. Anyway that's neither here nor there.

The story is that the Bridge is divided into two factions. Can't remember all the names I heard but one side would be names I'd have associated with Silverbridge for years, the other I'd never heard of much though that wouldn't mean they hadn't also been involved with the club a long time. Apparently one side had thought they had enough votes to take control at the AGM but a crowd of people came in at the last minute which affected the votes and there's dispute over whether everybody who voted actually was a club member. I'm not that well versed with the details of what happened, who is in control now or the history but it sounds a messy enough business.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 17, 2009, 12:34:05 PM
Similar to TAC
That there is a problem after the AGM with certain people's votes, about who was in and who wasnt
Cant end well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 12:35:00 PM
Interesting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 05:36:27 PM
I take it from the talk on the Tyrone thread, Clarke wont be getting the ogs job?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 18, 2009, 09:11:02 AM
Truely awful performance last night in brefni. none of the new men showed a thing. only vincent martin at full back could claim anything like parity. of the old men, clarke had a great 10 minute spell when he was finally restored to full forward but this wandering around midfield lark doesn't suit him at all. decent mention for shannon but the rest were rank.

rodgers can't kick the ball out. smith was destroyed. his man scored 1-05 and won the game for cavan yet there was no switch made for the entire 70 mins, despite shannon going well in the other corner. WTF? Donnelly and McDonald were ineffective at wing back and McClelland was very poor. his man skinned him in the second half particularly and why o why o why does he solo the ball constantly?

O'Neill and Lavery were anonymous for the most part. the only exception being when someone gave the ball to lavery he manages to run around in circle for 10 or 20 seconds before giving it back to the man who gave it to him in the first place!

toner, mallon and marty o'rourke were totally ineffective. mallon in particular has had 3 bad McKenna cup games and simply is not getting the business done. two o'rourkes inside were ok with poor supply. newtown one was nippy but took the wrong option in dangerous situations constantly. dromintee one is a great man to win a ball but he doesn't do anything with it... def doesn't anna shoot (is this lad not more of a half forward?)

all of the subs contributed less than zero. particular mention for peader toal who played the whole second half and never actually touched the ball til 25 mins in. didn't wanna know.

most worrying is the management. couldn't see obvious switches like smith off and clarke to the square. the ball was carried rugby league style the length of the field in search of scores. the exception was the first few mins when clarke went on the square and when the ball was kicked into him and he scored a couple in a minute. guess what... no half forwards!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: An Laoch on January 18, 2009, 10:41:29 AM
was there as a neutral last night The GAA, I think you're being a little harsh on your boys.

I thought Marty O'Rourke had a good game, a lot of good play came through him.

It was a pleasure to watch Ronan Clarke at full forward, he tormented the Cavan backs something terrible.

Who has the lad in the forward line wearing 23? Thought he did well at times, but was a little green - promising though.

Overall there was a lot of ball turned over easy and Armagh didnt have the intensity I'd expect.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on January 18, 2009, 11:24:13 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 05:36:27 PM
I take it from the talk on the Tyrone thread, Clarke wont be getting the ogs job?

Rumour has it that Clarke is away to Carrickmore.  Can any Ogs lads confirm this??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 18, 2009, 11:34:15 AM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on January 18, 2009, 11:24:13 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 05:36:27 PM
I take it from the talk on the Tyrone thread, Clarke wont be getting the ogs job?

Rumour has it that Clarke is away to Carrickmore.  Can any Ogs lads confirm this??
Its confirmed on the tyrone thread.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BroJolly on January 18, 2009, 02:31:49 PM
Quote from: The GAA on January 18, 2009, 09:11:02 AM
Truely awful performance last night in brefni. none of the new men showed a thing. only vincent martin at full back could claim anything like parity. of the old men, clarke had a great 10 minute spell when he was finally restored to full forward but this wandering around midfield lark doesn't suit him at all. decent mention for shannon but the rest were rank.

rodgers can't kick the ball out. smith was destroyed. his man scored 1-05 and won the game for cavan yet there was no switch made for the entire 70 mins, despite shannon going well in the other corner. WTF? Donnelly and McDonald were ineffective at wing back and McClelland was very poor. his man skinned him in the second half particularly and why o why o why does he solo the ball constantly?

O'Neill and Lavery were anonymous for the most part. the only exception being when someone gave the ball to lavery he manages to run around in circle for 10 or 20 seconds before giving it back to the man who gave it to him in the first place!

toner, mallon and marty o'rourke were totally ineffective. mallon in particular has had 3 bad McKenna cup games and simply is not getting the business done. two o'rourkes inside were ok with poor supply. newtown one was nippy but took the wrong option in dangerous situations constantly. dromintee one is a great man to win a ball but he doesn't do anything with it... def doesn't anna shoot (is this lad not more of a half forward?)

all of the subs contributed less than zero. particular mention for peader toal who played the whole second half and never actually touched the ball til 25 mins in. didn't wanna know.

most worrying is the management. couldn't see obvious switches like smith off and clarke to the square. the ball was carried rugby league style the length of the field in search of scores. the exception was the first few mins when clarke went on the square and when the ball was kicked into him and he scored a couple in a minute. guess what... no half forwards!

Agree with other poster who thought your comments were harsh. Considering the night that it was I thought there were some good performances. Thought Brian Mallon had played really well in all three games to date and hope he gets the opp to stay in this role in the league. The midfield was poor enough and that has been in the case in all games to date as well. Ronan Clarke was terrific and Kevin ORourke showed up well. Also good to see Peadar Toal again. Barry McDonald was pretty sound at half back for his first game. Won plenty of possession and always used the ball well.  Having said all that the highlight of last night was probably the bag of chips on the way home!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 18, 2009, 02:49:14 PM
Quote from: BroJolly on January 18, 2009, 02:31:49 PM
Quote from: The GAA on January 18, 2009, 09:11:02 AM
Truely awful performance last night in brefni. none of the new men showed a thing. only vincent martin at full back could claim anything like parity. of the old men, clarke had a great 10 minute spell when he was finally restored to full forward but this wandering around midfield lark doesn't suit him at all. decent mention for shannon but the rest were rank.

rodgers can't kick the ball out. smith was destroyed. his man scored 1-05 and won the game for cavan yet there was no switch made for the entire 70 mins, despite shannon going well in the other corner. WTF? Donnelly and McDonald were ineffective at wing back and McClelland was very poor. his man skinned him in the second half particularly and why o why o why does he solo the ball constantly?

O'Neill and Lavery were anonymous for the most part. the only exception being when someone gave the ball to lavery he manages to run around in circle for 10 or 20 seconds before giving it back to the man who gave it to him in the first place!

toner, mallon and marty o'rourke were totally ineffective. mallon in particular has had 3 bad McKenna cup games and simply is not getting the business done. two o'rourkes inside were ok with poor supply. newtown one was nippy but took the wrong option in dangerous situations constantly. dromintee one is a great man to win a ball but he doesn't do anything with it... def doesn't anna shoot (is this lad not more of a half forward?)

all of the subs contributed less than zero. particular mention for peader toal who played the whole second half and never actually touched the ball til 25 mins in. didn't wanna know.

most worrying is the management. couldn't see obvious switches like smith off and clarke to the square. the ball was carried rugby league style the length of the field in search of scores. the exception was the first few mins when clarke went on the square and when the ball was kicked into him and he scored a couple in a minute. guess what... no half forwards!

Agree with other poster who thought your comments were harsh. Considering the night that it was I thought there were some good performances. Thought Brian Mallon had played really well in all three games to date and hope he gets the opp to stay in this role in the league. The midfield was poor enough and that has been in the case in all games to date as well. Ronan Clarke was terrific and Kevin ORourke showed up well. Also good to see Peadar Toal again. Barry McDonald was pretty sound at half back for his first game. Won plenty of possession and always used the ball well.  Having said all that the highlight of last night was probably the bag of chips on the way home!



Think TheGAA is a bit harsh as well though certainly we weren't great. Would tend to agree though that Brian Mallon hasn't had a great McKenna Cup - would expect more from him as he's a player I'd rate highly. Did peader Toal get a good point late on from the terrace side of the pitch?

Hasn't been a great McKenna though in terms of new prospects, bar Henderson. Hopefully if we qualify some of the new panelists will show a bit more in the knock out stages.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 18, 2009, 03:18:20 PM
Quote from: BroJolly on January 18, 2009, 02:31:49 PM
Quote from: The GAA on January 18, 2009, 09:11:02 AM
Truely awful performance last night in brefni. none of the new men showed a thing. only vincent martin at full back could claim anything like parity. of the old men, clarke had a great 10 minute spell when he was finally restored to full forward but this wandering around midfield lark doesn't suit him at all. decent mention for shannon but the rest were rank.

rodgers can't kick the ball out. smith was destroyed. his man scored 1-05 and won the game for cavan yet there was no switch made for the entire 70 mins, despite shannon going well in the other corner. WTF? Donnelly and McDonald were ineffective at wing back and McClelland was very poor. his man skinned him in the second half particularly and why o why o why does he solo the ball constantly?

O'Neill and Lavery were anonymous for the most part. the only exception being when someone gave the ball to lavery he manages to run around in circle for 10 or 20 seconds before giving it back to the man who gave it to him in the first place!

toner, mallon and marty o'rourke were totally ineffective. mallon in particular has had 3 bad McKenna cup games and simply is not getting the business done. two o'rourkes inside were ok with poor supply. newtown one was nippy but took the wrong option in dangerous situations constantly. dromintee one is a great man to win a ball but he doesn't do anything with it... def doesn't anna shoot (is this lad not more of a half forward?)

all of the subs contributed less than zero. particular mention for peader toal who played the whole second half and never actually touched the ball til 25 mins in. didn't wanna know.

most worrying is the management. couldn't see obvious switches like smith off and clarke to the square. the ball was carried rugby league style the length of the field in search of scores. the exception was the first few mins when clarke went on the square and when the ball was kicked into him and he scored a couple in a minute. guess what... no half forwards!

Agree with other poster who thought your comments were harsh. Considering the night that it was I thought there were some good performances. Thought Brian Mallon had played really well in all three games to date and hope he gets the opp to stay in this role in the league. The midfield was poor enough and that has been in the case in all games to date as well. Ronan Clarke was terrific and Kevin ORourke showed up well. Also good to see Peadar Toal again. Barry McDonald was pretty sound at half back for his first game. Won plenty of possession and always used the ball well.  Having said all that the highlight of last night was probably the bag of chips on the way home!



Can't agree on Mallon - i think he's been very poor.
clarke was only terrific when he was on the square, which was the last 15 mins.
i'm not sure why its good to see peader toal playing? in fact, i was distinctly annoyed that he was playing by the end of it.
anyone know where paddy mckeever is? haven't heard any mention of him?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on January 18, 2009, 04:54:47 PM
AFS, I have been told that Paddy will be available for league and championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on January 18, 2009, 05:27:48 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 18, 2009, 05:21:40 PM
No harm for him to have the break then. Hopefully he's spending his time looking around the house for his training schedule from 1999-2002. Whatever he was at back then was working out a lot better than what he's been at recently. So strange that such a talented player has slipped so much in his mid-twenties, especially since he never really suffered any serious injuries in that time.
Agreed.  I have felt for a while it could be a confidence thing with him as he started very few games last year and when I think about it the year before as well.  1 fit and confident Paddy = 2 average players, in my opinion, without knocking anyone on the squad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on January 18, 2009, 06:12:07 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 18, 2009, 04:27:27 PM
Was in the paper yesterday that McKeever was 'unavailable'.

Don't know what that means, work commitments? Or could it be that he is mulling over his continued involvement?

Their was a great armagh contingent at an ex armagh legends wedding last night in cavan!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Celt_Man on January 18, 2009, 10:20:17 PM
Just wondering what the armagh team was last night? Didn't recognise too many of the faces. Will many be in contention for the team during the league? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on January 18, 2009, 10:39:37 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 18, 2009, 11:34:15 AM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on January 18, 2009, 11:24:13 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 05:36:27 PM
I take it from the talk on the Tyrone thread, Clarke wont be getting the ogs job?

Rumour has it that Clarke is away to Carrickmore.  Can any Ogs lads confirm this??
Its confirmed on the tyrone thread.

As I haven't been in contact with anyone in the gaa circles in the town this week, this thread let me know about Clarkes new post in Carrickmore. I for one think that this is great news for him, a fresh start. When he first took on the Ogs job in the'98  season it was really a bit of a damage limitation excercise. There had been a big decline, all the players from the successful championship winning teams had retired almost at once and there was a couple of hard years (I can still remember that painful night in Portadown when Clan's kicked the stuffing out of us and the future looked bleak). Mullabawn beat us in the first round of the championship in '98 but the ground work had begun and the following year we reached the county final.

He worked hard with the team and had a couple of years out in between but I know that all he wanted was to see the Ogs win that championship. It's a big disappointment that he didn't and he put his heart into it. As everyone knows Crossmaglen are some team and it's for that reason that he didn't win it but it wasn't for the want of trying. He's built the Ogs team up and now it is time for someone  else to come in and try and help push us over the line. That in no way puts the man down, he done a great job. It's just fresh approach is needed. I wish him all the best in his new role
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 19, 2009, 08:36:51 AM
I've often said this on this board; Armagh's half forward line is by-passed & misused!

They have been used too defensively & the long diagonal balls into the full forward line miss out the half forwards.

Paddy McKeever, as a result, has struggled. This system suits Marty O'Rourke, as he's a real battler, with limited skill & pace. It suited John McEntee, as he's a huge kick on him, & was used to feed the full forward line, & also chipped in with some long range scores! It will not suit Peader Toal & It will not suit Brian Mallon!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 19, 2009, 09:09:28 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 19, 2009, 08:36:51 AM
I've often said this on this board; Armagh's half forward line is by-passed & misused!

They have been used too defensively & the long diagonal balls into the full forward line miss out the half forwards.

Paddy McKeever, as a result, has struggled. This system suits Marty O'Rourke, as he's a real battler, with limited skill & pace. It suited John McEntee, as he's a huge kick on him, & was used to feed the full forward line, & also chipped in with some long range scores! It will not suit Peader Toal & It will not suit Brian Mallon!


Good point, but I think it is ll to do with the system we play MOR obviously is a main player and is there for defensive/break ball suties rather than attacking play. Vernon played a withdrawn role last year and that is why we appeared so defenensive as we effectively played a lot of the game with four forwards -although a lot people seem to blame Aidan O'Rourke as sweeper for this.

Keep two in the half forward line fpr the duration (hopefully Aaron and Mallon) and you will see a lot more productivity from there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 19, 2009, 09:16:34 AM
Quote from: full back on January 17, 2009, 12:34:05 PM
Similar to TAC
That there is a problem after the AGM with certain people's votes, about who was in and who wasnt
Cant end well

Problems just dont stop at AGM and the votes as far as im aware, also Pints hear from very reliable source that John rafferty was appointed but not sanctioned by the committee - on hearing this Rafferty got out quick
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 19, 2009, 09:33:39 AM
Harsh on Peadar Toal considering it was his first competitive GAA match for club or county in well over a year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 19, 2009, 09:49:21 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 19, 2009, 09:33:39 AM
Harsh on Peadar Toal considering it was his first competitive GAA match for club or county in well over a year.

And, of course, the fact that he hardly touched the ball could also be attributed to the ball not coming near him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 19, 2009, 10:56:52 AM
Mc keever has had really bad trouble over the past number of years with his hips. He will probably need a new one put in and the end of it all . Perhaps Mc Donnell is allowing him time to rest up and stregthen that area before he comes into football. Also that ground at the minute wouldn't do anything for a bad hip so with this is mind it is probably a good decision . I saw him at Davitt park when they played queens he was standing on the bank with the women. Sometimes it doesn't do any harm getting the break.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 19, 2009, 11:12:36 AM

Toal was playing in the full forward line. i'm not trying to get on the lad's case but i have to say that i was angered watching, what appeared to me, his total lack of appetite for the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 19, 2009, 11:30:18 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 19, 2009, 09:49:21 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 19, 2009, 09:33:39 AM
Harsh on Peadar Toal considering it was his first competitive GAA match for club or county in well over a year.

And, of course, the fact that he hardly touched the ball could also be attributed to the ball not coming near him.

Think IMO the fact it hadn't trained and was only back to squad had a bearing on the situation, i feel also a factor in Peter McDonnells selection policy - how a lad that's only back can get straight onto squad and get on for a half is strange.  Seems it could be just to keep him happy and make him come back - if that's the case its poor management.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 19, 2009, 11:50:34 AM
There aren't too many players in the county with more ability than him.

It's good that he's involved!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 19, 2009, 12:06:37 PM
Quote from: holylandsniper on January 19, 2009, 11:30:18 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 19, 2009, 09:49:21 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 19, 2009, 09:33:39 AM
Harsh on Peadar Toal considering it was his first competitive GAA match for club or county in well over a year.

And, of course, the fact that he hardly touched the ball could also be attributed to the ball not coming near him.

Think IMO the fact it hadn't trained and was only back to squad had a bearing on the situation, i feel also a factor in Peter McDonnells selection policy - how a lad that's only back can get straight onto squad and get on for a half is strange.  Seems it could be just to keep him happy and make him come back - if that's the case its poor management.

It's McKenna Cup, would it not be starnger to try him out in the league untested?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 19, 2009, 01:09:48 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 19, 2009, 12:06:37 PM
Quote from: holylandsniper on January 19, 2009, 11:30:18 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 19, 2009, 09:49:21 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 19, 2009, 09:33:39 AM
Harsh on Peadar Toal considering it was his first competitive GAA match for club or county in well over a year.

And, of course, the fact that he hardly touched the ball could also be attributed to the ball not coming near him.

Think IMO the fact it hadn’t trained and was only back to squad had a bearing on the situation, i feel also a factor in Peter McDonnells selection policy - how a lad that’s only back can get straight onto squad and get on for a half is strange.  Seems it could be just to keep him happy and make him come back - if that’s the case its poor management.

It's McKenna Cup, would it not be starnger to try him out in the league untested?

Well if its committment is to go play soccer and be unavialble for McKenna Cup games id have him nowere.  Interesting to see will he feature much in League - can potentially be a great talent - though i think its a big IF

harps folk, will he be back playing club football too all this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 19, 2009, 01:11:08 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 19, 2009, 11:50:34 AM
There aren't too many players in the county with more ability than him.

what are you basing that on?

any of these stories i've heard have turned out to be fairy tales when i've seen him play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 19, 2009, 01:23:19 PM
Half the Armagh team player soccer in the off season. We don't even know for certain if he went to the Crewe trial. Give hima fair chance instead of deriding him based on rumours and possibilities.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 19, 2009, 02:03:31 PM
Peader's back with the Harps.  The more football he can get the better.

Happened to be speaking with an Armagh City man last week who said the Crewe story was a story.  City no longer paying their players either, big financial diffs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 19, 2009, 02:30:03 PM
Quote from: The GAA on January 19, 2009, 01:11:08 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 19, 2009, 11:50:34 AM
There aren't too many players in the county with more ability than him.

what are you basing that on?

any of these stories i've heard have turned out to be fairy tales when i've seen him play.

I've known the lad since he was 13/14...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on January 19, 2009, 02:38:23 PM
THE GAA

you could probably base it on the league and championship of 2008,2007,2006,2005
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 19, 2009, 02:48:06 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on January 19, 2009, 02:38:23 PM
THE GAA

you could probably base it on the league and championship of 2008,2007,2006,2005

Correct me if I am wrong now.  I go to a fair few championship games around the country and I do my best to get to alot of the Armagh games.  Did Dromintee play Harps in Cruppen one year and was Toal not taking off at half time or something? Dont think he got much change out of young Shannon that day if memory serves me right?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 19, 2009, 03:08:29 PM
Cant remember, Dromintee gave us a few beatens in the championship a while back, doubt anyone covered themselves in glory, but I cant recall Peadar ever being taking off ( barring injury or going to snout someone).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 19, 2009, 03:30:51 PM

again, i'm not getting on the lads case but any time i've seen him for club, and particularly county, in the last 4 years he's been very disappointing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 19, 2009, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 19, 2009, 03:08:29 PM
Cant remember, Dromintee gave us a few beatens in the championship a while back, doubt anyone covered themselves in glory, but I cant recall Peadar ever being taking off ( barring injury or going to snout someone).

No problem, my mistake!

I presume the panel will not be cut until Crossmaglen are out of the Championship or will there be a few surplus to requirements for the NFL when the seasoned players and college players come back into the frame?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on January 19, 2009, 03:42:30 PM
the gaa,you must have seen some great forwards in armagh if you dont rate toal,maybe you could tell us who the county should be picking.have seen toal play and has in my opinion natural talent and could be the half forward that armagh have been missing to score in games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: judas1 on January 19, 2009, 03:45:28 PM
Quote from: The GAA on January 19, 2009, 11:12:36 AM

Toal was playing in the full forward line. i'm not trying to get on the lad's case but i have to say that i was angered watching, what appeared to me, his total lack of appetite for the game.
there wasnt to many players with an appetite on saturday night, from what i could see.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 19, 2009, 03:55:32 PM

Players who perform well consistently for their club deserve a shot at county opinion imho.

could some of you guys describe the circumstances of the last "great" (relatively speaking) game peader toal had?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 19, 2009, 04:03:58 PM
He hasn't played football for a year and a half or more The GAA ::)  Last County game I can think of was v Fermanagh was it McKenna cup, '07? Got 0-3 or 0-5 and rave reviews.  Regular good performer for Harps when there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 19, 2009, 04:08:51 PM
Thats grand then and the lad is a good footballer but should he not then be play/ performing with his club first before he plays with his county?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 19, 2009, 04:12:25 PM

Agreed OFT. i've never seen him do much for harps either. swift, McKinney and quigley have been a much more consistently good performers any time i've seen them. the likes of feeney, henderson and martin have been consistently excellent for their clubs and have earned a county shot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 19, 2009, 04:32:08 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 19, 2009, 03:08:29 PM
Cant remember, Dromintee gave us a few beatens in the championship a while back, doubt anyone covered themselves in glory, but I cant recall Peadar ever being taking off ( barring injury or going to snout someone).

No never taken off. That day Shannon did contain him very well, but Toal took the second half penalty, saved by McEvoy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 19, 2009, 04:54:15 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 17, 2009, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 12:23:46 PM
Quote from: full back on January 17, 2009, 12:19:50 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 17, 2009, 11:54:47 AM
QuoteBit of upheavel in your club pints?
What makes you think that?

Is there any truth in it?
I'm not being awkward or smart but truth in what exactly? What's been said?

Had a quick scan through your posts Pints and you were saying about it a couple of days back and before that a couple of weeks back so technically I was correct. Anyway that's neither here nor there.

The story is that the Bridge is divided into two factions. Can't remember all the names I heard but one side would be names I'd have associated with Silverbridge for years, the other I'd never heard of much though that wouldn't mean they hadn't also been involved with the club a long time. Apparently one side had thought they had enough votes to take control at the AGM but a crowd of people came in at the last minute which affected the votes and there's dispute over whether everybody who voted actually was a club member. I'm not that well versed with the details of what happened, who is in control now or the history but it sounds a messy enough business.

only one faction tac and its made up of the two managers from last year..they like stiring trouble...you know wat i mean
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 19, 2009, 04:55:05 PM
Quote from: Off The Fence on January 19, 2009, 04:08:51 PM
Thats grand then and the lad is a good footballer but should he not then be play/ performing with his club first before he plays with his county?
You'll get no arguments from me there.  I wouldn't give a sh1te if ever played county football again if he was committed to playing for Harps.  

He's there because McDonnell knows him first hand from his Harps days, and knows the talent the lad has and what he is capable of.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 19, 2009, 06:00:04 PM
I don't know the lad personally but it seems from reading some of the posts that he will only play for Armagh when he can be bothered. To all reports he does the same with his club. Now i know of a lot of young lads who would give their right arm for a shot at the county, even in the Mc Kenna cup. I would much rather have lads that are interested and fully committed than have a guy who only shows up or shows an interest when it suits his agenda.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 19, 2009, 06:02:03 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 19, 2009, 06:00:04 PM
I don't know the lad personally but it seems from reading some of the posts that he will only play for Armagh when he can be bothered. To all reports he does the same with his club. Now i know of a lot of young lads who would give their right arm for a shot at the county, even in the Mc Kenna cup. I would much rather have lads that are interested and fully committed than have a guy who only shows up or shows an interest when it suits his agenda.

Unfair yet again. People are jumping to a lot of conclusions on this thread about a fellah who hardly any of us, bar the Harps posters, know much about. If he only trains when it suits him he 'll be turfed out of the panel, simple as.Give the man a chance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 19, 2009, 06:49:49 PM
Quote from: holylandsniper on January 19, 2009, 09:16:34 AM
Quote from: full back on January 17, 2009, 12:34:05 PM
Similar to TAC
That there is a problem after the AGM with certain people's votes, about who was in and who wasnt
Cant end well

Problems just dont stop at AGM and the votes as far as im aware, also Pints hear from very reliable source that John rafferty was appointed but not sanctioned by the committee - on hearing this Rafferty got out quick
Completely untrue, I'd question how reliable that source is if I were you.


legs
Quote
only one faction tac and its made up of the two managers from last year..they like stiring trouble...you know wat i mean
What are you talking about?  A blatant lie against two men who's only crime, in your eyes, was to substitute Ciaran Conlon in a game two years ago.  ::)  Get over it ffs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on January 19, 2009, 08:22:12 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 19, 2009, 04:03:58 PM
He hasn't played football for a year and a half or more The GAA ::)  Last County game I can think of was v Fermanagh was it McKenna cup, '07? Got 0-3 or 0-5 and rave reviews.  Regular good performer for Harps when there.

Match was in Enniskillen, he scored 4 points IIRC? 2 from each side which were all 30+yards out and 2 of which were monster efforts.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 19, 2009, 08:42:01 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 19, 2009, 06:49:49 PM
Quote from: holylandsniper on January 19, 2009, 09:16:34 AM
Quote from: full back on January 17, 2009, 12:34:05 PM
Similar to TAC
That there is a problem after the AGM with certain people's votes, about who was in and who wasnt
Cant end well

Problems just dont stop at AGM and the votes as far as im aware, also Pints hear from very reliable source that John rafferty was appointed but not sanctioned by the committee - on hearing this Rafferty got out quick
Completely untrue, I'd question how reliable that source is if I were you.


legs
Quote
only one faction tac and its made up of the two managers from last year..they like stiring trouble...you know wat i mean
What are you talking about?  A blatant lie against two men who's only crime, in your eyes, was to substitute conlon in a game two years ago.  ::)  Get over it ffs.
pints did a certain ex manager chair the meetin 2weeks ago... y bring Ciaran Conlon in 2 this his only crime is that he is a good footballer and the bridge need him.. and for you 2 tell me the get over it ???ur the one never shuts up bout cross this cullyhanna tat
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 19, 2009, 09:03:11 PM
what is the story with conlon now?is he still togging out for that team in the dundalk??bridge could give the intermediate a real rattle this year imo if they can get him on board. wouldnt fear culloville terrible defence, newtown and i would imagine sarsfields will be struggling at the bttom of division 1 and low on confidence and have a very tricky derby in the 1st round against st.pauls..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 19, 2009, 10:02:53 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 19, 2009, 09:03:11 PM
what is the story with conlon now?is he still togging out for that team in the dundalk??bridge could give the intermediate a real rattle this year imo if they can get him on board. wouldnt fear culloville terrible defence, newtown and i would imagine sarsfields will be struggling at the bttom of division 1 and low on confidence and have a very tricky derby in the 1st round against st.pauls..
bridge mite struggle with 7 of the startin 15 away to oz..hopefully mite be back for colmore match.dont really know much bout ciaran but bridge would have a better chance with him dont think he will be playin in dundalk this year..think culloville have few boys quit and away the oz as well so they will struggle dont see much comin through ther eat the min..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 20, 2009, 01:39:36 PM
From armagh.gaa.ie

2009 Armagh Championship Dates & Venues       
2009 Lucozade Sport Senior Football Championship



1st Round

Ballymacnab v Harps - 14th August - Athletic Grounds - 7pm

Killeavey v St Patrick's - 14th August - Carrickcruppin - 7pm

Granemore v Dromintee -15th August - Silverbridge - 7pm

Tir na nÓg v Crossmalen  - 15th August - Athletic Grounds - 7pm

Maghery v Whitecross  - 16th August - Athletic Grounds - 2pm


Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn - 16th August - Athletic Grounds - 3.45pm

Pearse Og v Carrickcruppen - 16th August - Ballymacnab - 7pm

Clann Eireann v Bye

Quarter Finals


5th, 6th, 12th, 13th September

Semi Finals

26th, 27th September

Final

18th October



2009 Lucozade Sport Intermediate Football Championship Draw



1st Round

Sarsfields v St Paul's- 24th July - Davitt Park - 7pm

Clonmore v Silverbridge  - 24th July - Granemore - 7pm


Ballyhegan v Madden - 25th July - Abbey Park - 7pm

St Peter's v Lissummon - 25th July - Portadown - 7pm


Culloville v Annaghmore- 26th July - Ballymacnab - 2pm

An Port Mor v St Michael's   - 26th July - Ballymacnab - 3.45pm


Collegeland v Wolfe Tone - 26th July - Maghery - 7pm

Middletown v Keady - 26th July - Athletic Grounds - 7pm

Quarter Finals

7th, 8th, 9th August

Semi Finals

29th, 30th August

Final

4th October



2009 Lucozade Sport Junior Football Championship Draw



1st Round

Forkhill v Belleek-  31st July - Mullaghbawn - 7pm

Tullysaran v Dorsey Emmett's  - 31st July - Madden - 7pm

Grange v Shane O'Neill's  - 1st August - Mullabrack - 7pm

Crossmaglen II v Derrynoose  - 1st August - Cullyhanna - 7pm


Phelim Brady's v Killean - 2nd August - Newtownhamilton - 2pm


Mullabrack v O'Hanlon's- 2nd August - Whitecross - 4pm


Corrinshego v Clady  - 2nd August - Belleek - 7pm


Eire Og v Bye

Quarter Finals

21st, 22nd, 29th, 30th August

Semi Finals

13th, 19th September


Final

12th October



2009 Lucozade Sport U21 Football Championship Draw


1st Round (All Home Venues)


Pearse Og v Harps - 29th April - 7.30pm

Middletown v St Paul's - 29th April - 7.30pm

St John's v Ballyhegan - 29th April - 7.30pm

Carrickcruppen v St Brigid's - 29th April - 7.30pm

Keady v Madden - 29th April - 7.30pm

Ballymacnab v Clann Eireann - 29th April - 7.30pm

Killeavey v Wolfe Tone - 29th April - 7.30pm

Clan na Gael v St Patrick's - 29th April - 7.30pm

Cavanakill Emmett's v Granemore - 29th April - 7.30pm

Culloville v Maghery - 29th April - 7.30pm

Crossmaglen v Shane O'Neill's - 29th April - 7.30pm

Tir na nÓg v Dromintee - 29th April - 7.30pm

Mullaghbawn v Tullysaran- 29th April - 7.30pm

Eire Og v Bye

Sarsfields v Bye

Silverbridge v Bye

2nd Round

6th May

Quarter Finals

13th May

Semi Finals

20th May

Final

13th June







Title: I know this has been asked many times....
Post by: Uladh on January 20, 2009, 02:09:32 PM

why do these idiots put senior, intermediate and junior championship matches on at the same time at different venues?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 20, 2009, 04:19:47 PM
So much for the holidays  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 21, 2009, 08:46:26 AM
See Enda is returning for 2009 according to the Irish Star today
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 21, 2009, 09:19:23 AM
I know the county board do try their best and I try to praise them when they do good, but year after year they defy logic and don;t put on double headers, I just can't figure it out?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 21, 2009, 09:43:51 AM
Mid B championship

Prelim round
Ogs v Granemore
Nab v Port Mor
Keady V Ballyhegan

Q/F's
Middletown v Madden
Tullysaran v Collegeland
Ogs/Granemore v 'Nab/Port Mor
Keady/Ballyhegan v Harps

Home advantage for first named teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on January 21, 2009, 01:05:53 PM
Any word on the first set of league fixtures yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 21, 2009, 02:16:00 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on January 21, 2009, 01:05:53 PM
Any word on the first set of league fixtures yet?

Me and you needin worry about them saan ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on January 21, 2009, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 21, 2009, 09:19:23 AM
I know the county board do try their best and I try to praise them when they do good, but year after year they defy logic and don;t put on double headers, I just can't figure it out?

Have you seen what they charge into senior championship games, can't see how they make any money at all, if there was double headers they'd be broke  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 21, 2009, 10:12:38 PM
Quote from: ogshead on January 21, 2009, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 21, 2009, 09:19:23 AM
I know the county board do try their best and I try to praise them when they do good, but year after year they defy logic and don;t put on double headers, I just can't figure it out?

Have you seen what they charge into senior championship games, can't see how they make any money at all, if there was double headers they'd be broke  :P

My argument is that they would actually make much more.

Nuetral fans would be himmin and haain (some spelling there) about going to see a match, but it they got too matches for a pound or two extra, the extra fans should, in theory, be significant, therefore eradicating any downfall from changing it to one game and, in the end, ensuring profit. Also the matches would hgave better attendance, better atmosphere and would be better all round. I believe Derry and Tyrone have double-headers and draw a massive crowds, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on January 22, 2009, 09:10:51 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on January 21, 2009, 01:05:53 PM
Any word on the first set of league fixtures yet?

don't think that they are out yet, but have heard that the first round of games are on the 5th April.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on January 22, 2009, 09:41:33 AM
Quote from: flog the lot on January 22, 2009, 09:10:51 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on January 21, 2009, 01:05:53 PM
Any word on the first set of league fixtures yet?

don't think that they are out yet, but have heard that the first round of games are on the 5th April.

So 1 round of games then probably a 10 day break for Easter. Might as well wait and start in the middle of April
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on January 22, 2009, 10:34:04 AM
Why is the championship started so late?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 22, 2009, 10:59:37 AM
Think the idea is to make the leagues more meaningful, as in - if you're out of the champ in May the leagues can suffer as a result. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on January 22, 2009, 11:45:48 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 21, 2009, 10:12:38 PM
Quote from: ogshead on January 21, 2009, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 21, 2009, 09:19:23 AM
I know the county board do try their best and I try to praise them when they do good, but year after year they defy logic and don;t put on double headers, I just can't figure it out?

Have you seen what they charge into senior championship games, can't see how they make any money at all, if there was double headers they'd be broke  :P

My argument is that they would actually make much more.

Nuetral fans would be himmin and haain (some spelling there) about going to see a match, but it they got too matches for a pound or two extra, the extra fans should, in theory, be significant, therefore eradicating any downfall from changing it to one game and, in the end, ensuring profit. Also the matches would hgave better attendance, better atmosphere and would be better all round. I believe Derry and Tyrone have double-headers and draw a massive crowds, but I could be wrong.

Not 100% on Tyrone doing it all the time, but know it definately happens at times.

Your 100% about Derry championship though. Double headers are the done thing which always bring in huge crowds with 4 teams playing and a large influx of neutrals. The only 2 situations where games arent double headers are, when all there are a heap of games on the one weekend so a stand alone game may be fitted in on a friday night (this only happens at first round), or when there is a replay needed it may be stand alone if no suitable curtain raiser is available, (eg. another replay from Junior, intermediate or senior, or an underage game)

The Derry county board can be a joke at times but one thing they do well is championship Football at Junior intermediate and senior levels.
Senior, Intermediate and Junior championship games are all double and triple headers and all can be mixed in with each other, eg Junior game followed by intermediate, intermediate followed by Senior or junior followed by senior, and the Senior championship is set out so as if you wanted you could see every minute of every game and also see all of the intermediate and junior championships (if you really wanted)

The crowds at these games are pretty huge and as I mentioned neutrals travel from all over the county and from neighbouring counties to see them, but it must be remembered that Club GAA is a huge Draw in Derry and is the most important part for the vast majority of our gaels.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 12:01:30 PM
Quote from: billy the kid on January 22, 2009, 11:45:48 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 21, 2009, 10:12:38 PM
Quote from: ogshead on January 21, 2009, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 21, 2009, 09:19:23 AM
I know the county board do try their best and I try to praise them when they do good, but year after year they defy logic and don;t put on double headers, I just can't figure it out?

Have you seen what they charge into senior championship games, can't see how they make any money at all, if there was double headers they'd be broke  :P

My argument is that they would actually make much more.

Nuetral fans would be himmin and haain (some spelling there) about going to see a match, but it they got too matches for a pound or two extra, the extra fans should, in theory, be significant, therefore eradicating any downfall from changing it to one game and, in the end, ensuring profit. Also the matches would hgave better attendance, better atmosphere and would be better all round. I believe Derry and Tyrone have double-headers and draw a massive crowds, but I could be wrong.

Not 100% on Tyrone doing it all the time, but know it definately happens at times.

Your 100% about Derry championship though. Double headers are the done thing which always bring in huge crowds with 4 teams playing and a large influx of neutrals. The only 2 situations where games arent double headers are, when all there are a heap of games on the one weekend so a stand alone game may be fitted in on a friday night (this only happens at first round), or when there is a replay needed it may be stand alone if no suitable curtain raiser is available, (eg. another replay from Junior, intermediate or senior, or an underage game)

The Derry county board can be a joke at times but one thing they do well is championship Football at Junior intermediate and senior levels.
Senior, Intermediate and Junior championship games are all double and triple headers and all can be mixed in with each other, eg Junior game followed by intermediate, intermediate followed by Senior or junior followed by senior, and the Senior championship is set out so as if you wanted you could see every minute of every game and also see all of the intermediate and junior championships (if you really wanted)

The crowds at these games are pretty huge and as I mentioned neutrals travel from all over the county and from neighbouring counties to see them, but it must be remembered that Club GAA is a huge Draw in Derry and is the most important part for the vast majority of our gaels.


Exactly, I know a few Dromintee lads who went up to a couple of Derry games last year because of that sort of organisation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 22, 2009, 12:03:27 PM
jack hardly went corn...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on January 22, 2009, 12:08:44 PM
Anybody at Healy Park last night?? Heard Feeney got an injury any news?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 22, 2009, 12:08:54 PM
From the sound of things the Armagh c/b would need to put on quadruple headers to get even half the crowds at the Derry games. The Championships are too predictable (especially SFC) and need changed, partly to try and stop Cross' dominance  :P but also to inject a bit of life back into them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 22, 2009, 12:11:35 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on January 22, 2009, 12:08:44 PM
Anybody at Healy Park last night?? Heard Feeney got an injury any news?

Looked like he hurt his collar bone / shoulder to me... though someone said they thought it was wrist/arm...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 12:12:21 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 22, 2009, 12:03:27 PM
jack hardly went corn...

You knows it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 22, 2009, 12:41:14 PM
New Armagh gear (not jersey)

http://www.oneills.com/news/newsletter.php?ID=81
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 12:41:54 PM
The blue jumper is surprisingly very nice.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on January 22, 2009, 12:43:27 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 12:41:54 PM
The blue jumper is surprisingly very nice.

You wouldn't like blue at all corn  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 12:48:16 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on January 22, 2009, 12:43:27 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 12:41:54 PM
The blue jumper is surprisingly very nice.

You wouldn't like blue at all corn  ;)

No, no you know I hate blue!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 12:49:47 PM
So far how many of the new players being tried out might make the jump.  Obviously you will have at least 7 Cross players to come back to the squad, but what other players will make it.  I have to say I am glad to see McClelland getting back as I remember him from minors and thought he was a class act, Henderson and Toal seem like they could be good additions.  Who else?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on January 22, 2009, 12:50:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 12:48:16 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on January 22, 2009, 12:43:27 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 12:41:54 PM
The blue jumper is surprisingly very nice.

You wouldn't like blue at all corn  ;)

No, no you know I hate blue!

Apart from your blue-tinted glasses of course  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 12:58:36 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 12:49:47 PM
So far how many of the new players being tried out might make the jump.  Obviously you will have at least 7 Cross players to come back to the squad, but what other players will make it.  I have to say I am glad to see McClelland getting back as I remember him from minors and thought he was a class act, Henderson and Toal seem like they could be good additions.  Who else?



Ehh hard to know one of the keepers obviously, hopefully McEvoy.
Martin will probably be close.
Kevin O Rourke has impressed.
Henderson as well.
Not sure who else.


I would imagine this will be the lowest Cross representation on an Armagh first 15 in many a year come Championship. Not a dig because obviosuly they have fabulous players, but not many will make the first 15 I wouldn't think.

AK one of the first on the team sheet, Donaghy will battle with Bellew, Mallon will battle with Sk. On the flip side, I think McKeown could nail down a Championship spot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 01:03:47 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on January 22, 2009, 12:50:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 12:48:16 PM
Quote from: SidelineKick on January 22, 2009, 12:43:27 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 12:41:54 PM
The blue jumper is surprisingly very nice.

You wouldn't like blue at all corn  ;)

No, no you know I hate blue!

Apart from your blue-tinted glasses of course  :o

Never!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 01:05:48 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 12:58:36 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 12:49:47 PM
So far how many of the new players being tried out might make the jump.  Obviously you will have at least 7 Cross players to come back to the squad, but what other players will make it.  I have to say I am glad to see McClelland getting back as I remember him from minors and thought he was a class act, Henderson and Toal seem like they could be good additions.  Who else?



Ehh hard to know one of the keepers obviously, hopefully McEvoy.
Martin will probably be close.
Kevin O Rourke has impressed.
Henderson as well.
Not sure who else.


I would imagine this will be the lowest Cross representation on an Armagh first 15 in many a year come Championship. Not a dig because obviosuly they have fabulous players, but not many will make the first 15 I wouldn't think.

AK one of the first on the team sheet, Donaghy will battle with Bellew, Mallon will battle with Sk. On the flip side, I think McKeown could nail down a Championship spot.

I would dispute that.  I think you'll have Paul Hearty, AK guaranteed, I would rate Paul McKeown higher than Finn Moriarty.  He is a better footballer and certainly quicker.  He should be corner back with Mallon in the other.  Francie might struggle against Donaghy, I agree.  With no one standing out as a midfield partner for McGrane I thing David Mckenna has a big shout here.  Mallon and SK I think will both start along with MOR in the Half forward line.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 22, 2009, 01:13:26 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 01:05:48 PM
I would rate Paul McKeown higher than Finn Moriarty.  He is a better footballer and certainly quicker.  

Agree with that bc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 01:15:42 PM
3 or 4 still small number of starters fro Cross, which says a lot.

Yeah agree about McKewon, have said many times that he is the best young prospect Cross have and I expect him to start.

A good league campaign for either keeper and they would surely challenge Hearty, so I wouldn't say guaranteed, but very probable.

Yeah midfield is a minefield - McGrane in one slot with the other spot to be filled by Lavery, McKenna, O Neill brothers, Martin, Toner, Vernon, Mackin or Courtney. At present I would say Toner is slightly in front going by last year, but will be an interesting one to kepp an eye on.

Not too sure if there is room for Mallon and Sk and I expect the League to sort this debate. Too number 11s.

You have TK pushing up there as well.





Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on January 22, 2009, 01:42:23 PM
have to say I really like the new Armagh gear - the hoodies look great
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on January 22, 2009, 01:50:10 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 12:49:47 PM
So far how many of the new players being tried out might make the jump.  Obviously you will have at least 7 Cross players to come back to the squad, but what other players will make it.  I have to say I am glad to see McClelland getting back as I remember him from minors and thought he was a class act, Henderson and Toal seem like they could be good additions.  Who else?



Will be lucky to make panel after cut, a carthorse - if he had anyway near a bit of spped he'd be usefull but even Francie would put him to shame in a race
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 02:00:08 PM
Quote from: holylandsniper on January 22, 2009, 01:50:10 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 12:49:47 PM
So far how many of the new players being tried out might make the jump.  Obviously you will have at least 7 Cross players to come back to the squad, but what other players will make it.  I have to say I am glad to see McClelland getting back as I remember him from minors and thought he was a class act, Henderson and Toal seem like they could be good additions.  Who else?



Will be lucky to make panel after cut, a carthorse - if he had anyway near a bit of spped he'd be usefull but even Francie would put him to shame in a race

That's a pity, I thought he had the making of a serious half back when he was minors.

What about the option of Toner in FB with Donaghy in the wing back position, with McKeever CHB and AK wing half.  Plenty of pace  and strong in the certain.  Also you could play Vernon in the HB line and push AK to the HF line.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on January 22, 2009, 02:21:07 PM

Vernon can't play in the half back line, forget about that. AK won't play in the h forwards either from what i hear. toner and donaghy can both play in the full or half back line surely? and toner might be the next best option at 6.

is there any insight to whether francie will be making himself available?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 02:27:28 PM
Quote from: Uladh on January 22, 2009, 02:21:07 PM

Vernon can't play in the half back line, forget about that. AK won't play in the h forwards either from what i hear. toner and donaghy can both play in the full or half back line surely? and toner might be the next best option at 6.

is there any insight to whether francie will be making himself available?

I understand his plan is to be available but that might change.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 22, 2009, 02:38:18 PM
I reckon this year there could be a few changes come championship time, especially if McDonnell does stick to the plan of playing a more expansive game.  I'd say David McKenna will start in MF come the summer because of his mobility. While McGrane will probably start along side him, I think his days as an untouchable are over. I cant see a team starting without Kieran Toner in there somewhere.  If Peadar Toal does what he is capable of I could see him starting in the HF line team, there should be fierce competition in there this year. Vernon at CHF could let him compete in the MF area. 
Hearty
McKeown, Toner, A Mallon
AK, Donaghy/ McKeever
McGrane, MCKenna
MOR, Vernon, Toal
McDonnell, Clarke, any one of 5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 02:43:49 PM
I wouldn't argue too much with that team benny.  Would Toal play the corner at all and bring Mallon into the wing forward position?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 22, 2009, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: Uladh on January 22, 2009, 02:21:07 PM

Vernon can't play in the half back line, forget about that. AK won't play in the h forwards either from what i hear. toner and donaghy can both play in the full or half back line surely? and toner might be the next best option at 6.

is there any insight to whether francie will be making himself available?

EH?

Haven't seen much McKenna cup football but i'd be happy with a championship team something like:

Hearty
an other Toner  Mallon
Donaghy O'Rourke McKeever
      McGrane   McKenna
O'Rourke Mallon  Vernon
McDonnell Clarke Henderson
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 22, 2009, 03:09:20 PM
I'd go for

Hearty
P McGeown/F Moriarty* K Toner A Mallon
A Kernan C McMcKeever B Donaghy

P McGrane
C Vernon**

P McKeever B Mallon P Toal
S McDonnell R Clarke R Henderson

*On the pretence that Finn Mo will play here during the league, I think come end of league/championship time McGeown may find it hard getting his place after Cross' AI exploits
**On the assumption he keeps up his QUB form.

A slightly unorthodox forward line from myself but I'm hoping all this talk of more attacking football is going to take shape come summer time. If that is to be the case I would expect Paddy McKeever to start making a few more appearances at MORs expense, likewise if P Toal is to stick at it I would definitely include him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 22, 2009, 03:13:03 PM
like the look of bennys team there 2.  think if vernon is to play would be in a central role.  would really love him to transform his qub form armagh jersey.  

no.15 will pose a problem for mcdonnell.  henderson on form would certainly be an option but that leaves three forwards inside with him, clarke and stevie and i doubt that armagh will operate this way as mcdonnell is a negative coach.  feeney apparantly impressed last night, kevin o rourke also though size will be a problem for him at this level, stefan forker would be another option.  

would like to see mckeown in the corner, though finn mo a fellow clubman think mckeown definately a better option.
would be worried if bellew isolated against son or cavanagh, donaghey's mobility may be the best option to try and contain cavanagh

midfield will again cause major debate as to who will partner mcgrane.  corn has listed a number of options there, but in reality i feel it will be between lavery, toner and mckenna.  

the selection of the half forward line and their actual role will no doubt cause plenty of debate and opinion.  the tyrone game will have alot of dirty ball and as much as i like toal as a footballer i doubt mcdonnell will gamble with him from the start,due to his cautious nature.  would imagine it woud be mor, vernon and mallon/kernan/mckeever fom the start.  would mcnamee be an option anyone?  would rate him more highly than shorty clarke for example, but again as in the case of kor size may be an issue.  

alot of questions at this stage for mdonnell.  hopefully the league can come up with some positive answers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 03:20:32 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 22, 2009, 03:13:03 PM
the selection of the half forward line and their actual role will no doubt cause plenty of debate and opinion.  the tyrone game will have alot of dirty ball and as much as i like toal as a footballer i doubt mcdonnell will gamble with him from the start,due to his cautious nature.  would imagine it woud be mor, vernon and mallon/kernan/mckeever fom the start.  would mcnamee be an option anyone?  would rate him more highly than shorty clarke for example, but again as in the case of kor size may be an issue.  

alot of questions at this stage for mdonnell.  hopefully the league can come up with some positive answers

I never really thought of Mickey, small he may be but he is a hardy wee buck and has 4-5 years good experience under his belt.  His is playing out off his skin at the minute and might be an option.  He can be a good link player, is handy at picking up loose ball around the middle and chips in 2-3 scores a game.

I definitely see MOR and Vernon in the half forward line but the third one is going to be interesting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: amigo on January 22, 2009, 03:31:31 PM
I think Paul Kernan and Brendan McKeown are good enough for starting slots!! Going on what i have seen of them in the past few seasons!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 22, 2009, 03:36:25 PM
Quote from: amigo on January 22, 2009, 03:31:31 PM
I think Paul Kernan and Brendan McKeown are good enough for starting slots!! Going on what i have seen of them in the past few seasons!!!

not so sure on kernan to be honest.  what age is brendan mckeown??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 22, 2009, 03:38:38 PM
its a massive leap from club football, at whatever level, to a starting on a county team. i suspect it'll be a year too early for young McKeown but that year on the panel will prepare him for coming into the team next year. not sure about paul kernan to be honest. McNamee is a great wee club player but realistically i don't think he'll make it in county football. he has had great years before and joe never deemed him good enough.

Our benchmark for selection has to be national league and championship perforances. on that basis the upcoming league of course will tell the tale but if we're honest we're all naming fellas who fell short in championship football last year. in that list i'd include moriarty, toner, mallon, p mckeever, vernon and possibly hearty. forgetting about position and tactics, can lads win the ball and can they use it at that level?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 22, 2009, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: amigo on January 22, 2009, 03:31:31 PM
I think Paul Kernan and Brendan McKeown are good enough for starting slots!! Going on what i have seen of them in the past few seasons!!!

Is that "skinny"? a v good club marker but not fit for county football imho
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: amigo on January 22, 2009, 03:43:19 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 22, 2009, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: amigo on January 22, 2009, 03:31:31 PM
I think Paul Kernan and Brendan McKeown are good enough for starting slots!! Going on what i have seen of them in the past few seasons!!!

Is that "skinny"? a v good club marker but not fit for county football imho

In my opinion, as defenders Moriarty and Toner wouldn't lace their boots!!! Only my opinion i might add!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 22, 2009, 03:50:19 PM
I would fear the "jump" from club level to county level least when Cross are concerned!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 03:54:11 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 22, 2009, 02:56:48 PM
Quote from: Uladh on January 22, 2009, 02:21:07 PM

Vernon can't play in the half back line, forget about that. AK won't play in the h forwards either from what i hear. toner and donaghy can both play in the full or half back line surely? and toner might be the next best option at 6.

is there any insight to whether francie will be making himself available?

EH?

Haven't seen much McKenna cup football but i'd be happy with a championship team something like:

Hearty
an other Toner  Mallon
Donaghy O'Rourke McKeever
      McGrane   McKenna
O'Rourke Mallon  Vernon
McDonnell Clarke Henderson

No Ak, seriously?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 22, 2009, 03:59:57 PM

OOps... meant to have him half forward. couldn't figure out how vernon was still making my team when i was picking it! don't ever give me a job...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 22, 2009, 04:00:19 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 22, 2009, 03:50:19 PM
I would fear the "jump" from club level to county level least when Cross are concerned!

A very common mistake
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 22, 2009, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: amigo on January 22, 2009, 03:31:31 PM
I think Paul Kernan and Brendan McKeown are good enough for starting slots!! Going on what i have seen of them in the past few seasons!!!

Is that "skinny"? a v good club marker but not fit for county football imho

In comparison to whom?  Shannon? Vincie Martin?  I can tell you that Skinny would have no fear in adapting.  I will go out on a limb here and say that any of the 6 Cross backs would fit into the Armagh defence without any issue.  As Goats says they are best adapted at making the jump to county football.  I will call a spade a spade.  They play at a higher level regulalry than any other club player, they train at a higher level than many county players, they do a lot of work on their own and have an unbelievable self confidence in themselves and each other that they are all capable of playing at the highest level.  There are obviously better players than some of them in Armagh, but not too many.  Their belief in the fact that they are the best is an asset that many players who try to make it to the county set up lack and consequently they never really show their potential.  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 22, 2009, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: amigo on January 22, 2009, 03:31:31 PM
I think Paul Kernan and Brendan McKeown are good enough for starting slots!! Going on what i have seen of them in the past few seasons!!!

Is that "skinny"? a v good club marker but not fit for county football imho

In comparison to whom?  Shannon? Vincie Martin?  I can tell you that Skinny would have no fear in adapting.  I will go out on a limb here and say that any of the 6 Cross backs would fit into the Armagh defence without any issue.  As Goats says they are best adapted at making the jump to county football.  I will call a spade a spade.  They play at a higher level regulalry than any other club player, they train at a higher level than many county players, they do a lot of work on their own and have an unbelievable self confidence in themselves and each other that they are all capable of playing at the highest level.  There are obviously better players than some of them in Armagh, but not too many.  Their belief in the fact that they are the best is an asset that many players who try to make it to the county set up lack and consequently they never really show their potential.  


I would have them too over Skinny any day BC to be honest. He got the biggest roasting I have ever seen a Cross player getting against MOR in the Champiosnhip two years ago. Yous destroyed us in the league this year, I think we scored four points or something, his man got three from play.

John Donaldson is arguably the best club defender about, but it didn;t work out at county, it is churlish to suggest that he would automatica;lly make it just because he is from Cross and has the confidence that he would make it.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 22, 2009, 04:19:12 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 22, 2009, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: amigo on January 22, 2009, 03:31:31 PM
I think Paul Kernan and Brendan McKeown are good enough for starting slots!! Going on what i have seen of them in the past few seasons!!!

Is that "skinny"? a v good club marker but not fit for county football imho

In comparison to whom?  Shannon? Vincie Martin?  I can tell you that Skinny would have no fear in adapting.  I will go out on a limb here and say that any of the 6 Cross backs would fit into the Armagh defence without any issue.  As Goats says they are best adapted at making the jump to county football.  I will call a spade a spade.  They play at a higher level regulalry than any other club player, they train at a higher level than many county players, they do a lot of work on their own and have an unbelievable self confidence in themselves and each other that they are all capable of playing at the highest level.  There are obviously better players than some of them in Armagh, but not too many.  Their belief in the fact that they are the best is an asset that many players who try to make it to the county set up lack and consequently they never really show their potential.  

You're being disingenuous there bc - i'm not wearing my club hat at all. McKeown is a fantastic marker at club level but if h were not from cross would he be touted for a county trial? i doubt it. where i see him falling down at the highest level is with the ball in his hand. he would not be able to use the ball well enough under pressure and that is on top of the higher calibre of player tobe marked.

you see it the length and breadth of the country - club champions always have a clatter of players on county squads. a player has to be very very good at club level to play county football. the common mistake i refer to is county managers taking a good club player from a successful team over a good club player from a bad club side. The surroundings and responsibilities of both players are different but its the substance of the player that should count, not an accident of birth. there is actually a strong case to be made that a player from a lesser club is better prepared for county football as he is better prepared for taking responsibility and handling expectation.

Since you now feel the need to argue, i have to say that you have no earthly way of knowing how the trainig and work rate of the cross players you mention staks up against that done by our county players.

Also, since you want to be parochial, i would argue that dromintee have a superior defence to crossmaglen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 04:26:22 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 22, 2009, 04:19:12 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 22, 2009, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: amigo on January 22, 2009, 03:31:31 PM
I think Paul Kernan and Brendan McKeown are good enough for starting slots!! Going on what i have seen of them in the past few seasons!!!

Is that "skinny"? a v good club marker but not fit for county football imho

In comparison to whom?  Shannon? Vincie Martin?  I can tell you that Skinny would have no fear in adapting.  I will go out on a limb here and say that any of the 6 Cross backs would fit into the Armagh defence without any issue.  As Goats says they are best adapted at making the jump to county football.  I will call a spade a spade.  They play at a higher level regulalry than any other club player, they train at a higher level than many county players, they do a lot of work on their own and have an unbelievable self confidence in themselves and each other that they are all capable of playing at the highest level.  There are obviously better players than some of them in Armagh, but not too many.  Their belief in the fact that they are the best is an asset that many players who try to make it to the county set up lack and consequently they never really show their potential.  




Also, since you want to be parochial, i would argue that dromintee have a superior defence to crossmaglen.

Oh jesus here we go.....actually there is very little between the defences, Dromintee's problem has always been not scoring enough against Cross, but, please,please,please, let's not get into this.


BC I will call you up on the suggestion that Cross players do more than county players, that can;t be known, but I would be confident that tje average Dromintee player would do as much as the average Cross player.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 22, 2009, 04:31:45 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 04:05:36 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 22, 2009, 03:39:32 PM
Quote from: amigo on January 22, 2009, 03:31:31 PM
I think Paul Kernan and Brendan McKeown are good enough for starting slots!! Going on what i have seen of them in the past few seasons!!!

Is that "skinny"? a v good club marker but not fit for county football imho

In comparison to whom?  Shannon? Vincie Martin?  I can tell you that Skinny would have no fear in adapting.  I will go out on a limb here and say that any of the 6 Cross backs would fit into the Armagh defence without any issue.  As Goats says they are best adapted at making the jump to county football.  I will call a spade a spade.  They play at a higher level regulalry than any other club player, they train at a higher level than many county players, they do a lot of work on their own and have an unbelievable self confidence in themselves and each other that they are all capable of playing at the highest level.  There are obviously better players than some of them in Armagh, but not too many.  Their belief in the fact that they are the best is an asset that many players who try to make it to the county set up lack and consequently they never really show their potential.  


I would have them too over Skinny any day BC to be honest. He got the biggest roasting I have ever seen a Cross player getting against MOR in the Champiosnhip two years ago. Yous destroyed us in the league this year, I think we scored four points or something, his man got three from play.

John Donaldson is arguably the best club defender about, but it didn;t work out at county, it is churlish to suggest that he would automatica;lly make it just because he is from Cross and has the confidence that he would make it.




good point
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 04:34:56 PM
I have watched a number of county teams training, at a fairly high level and trust me, I did harder, more intense training than they did 10 years ago!  I am not making it parochial just to get a dig at Dromintee.  The reality is that Cross players have played consistently at a higher level over the last number of years than any other average club player in Armagh.  Consequently they have reached a level of game fitness and strength that other players will not have reached.  Coupled to the confidence that winning brings, I would argue that they would find it easier to adapt to county footballers than others.  As I said tehre are better footballers than some of the players mentioned, but good footballers don't always make the cut for a variety of reasons.


Corn you can isolate individual games all you like and pick out instances where palyers get a roastimg, but I have seen skinny have more good games than bad and I feel that him coming back into the defence for Cross was a significant factor during the Ulster campaign.  As regards JD, I don't think he would be a stand out player at county level the way he is at club, but I also don't think he would look out of place.


As for the Dromintee defence being better than Cross, fair enough, but I reckon that results would show differently.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 04:47:01 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 22, 2009, 04:34:56 PM
I have watched a number of county teams training, at a fairly high level and trust me, I did harder, more intense training than they did 10 years ago!  I am not making it parochial just to get a dig at Dromintee.  The reality is that Cross players have played consistently at a higher level over the last number of years than any other average club player in Armagh.  Consequently they have reached a level of game fitness and strength that other players will not have reached.  Coupled to the confidence that winning brings, I would argue that they would find it easier to adapt to county footballers than others.  As I said tehre are better footballers than some of the players mentioned, but good footballers don't always make the cut for a variety of reasons.


Corn you can isolate individual games all you like and pick out instances where palyers get a roastimg, but I have seen skinny have more good games than bad and I feel that him coming back into the defence for Cross was a significant factor during the Ulster campaign.  As regards JD, I don't think he would be a stand out player at county level the way he is at club, but I also don't think he would look out of place.


As for the Dromintee defence being better than Cross, fair enough, but I reckon that results would show differently.

Results wouldn't really show different because a match is won by defenders, forwards and midfielders, so you can't just use results to say Cross have a better defence. By the way I am not saying Dromintee do, I am just saying there is very little between them and it is usualt Coss' better forward department that proves the difference.

Now I agree with you when they say they have played at a higher level and have, therefore, got to a new level, my point was that I would argue that they "do more work" than other club players.

Of course Skinny has had more good games, in fact, he is usually excellent as are most Cross defenders, I am just showing they are not infalible and being from Cross doesn't mean they would succeed. I haven't even said I don't think Skinny would be good enough, I would be willing to reserve judgment. A lot of people, myself included, jumped the gun re: SK, so I am more passive and will wait and see. That said, at the moment, I could not see him being a Championship player and I think his namesake is a much betteer prospect.

The JD point was an example of a Cross player not making a mark when he played county, it happens every club team. Arguably he is better player now, but we can only go on his county career.

Mickey McNamme is a weird one. Anyone who saw him at underage or for the Abbey would have saw him as a nailed on future county player, then he just went off the radar. But this year he is back with a bang and who knows what will happen. He will almost certainly egta  run in the league.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 22, 2009, 04:50:12 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 22, 2009, 04:05:54 PM
Guys I don't know where yous are getting Toner at FB from. McDonnell has never played him in there from what I can remember, not even when they were with the U21s. On the other hand McDonnell has nearly always played Donaghy at FB. Its a no-brainer for me what way it'll work out- Donaghy at FB, Toner at midfield if they both play.

He has played FB at U21, in fact did he not start at FB last year v Donegal in Ballybofey and move out to MF or vice versa?  I think his lack of pace could be exposed at FB(or CHB) moreso than at MF, but I really do think a fit David McKenna will start v Tyrone and Toner will be in the mix somewhere.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 05:00:00 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 22, 2009, 04:50:12 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 22, 2009, 04:05:54 PM
Guys I don't know where yous are getting Toner at FB from. McDonnell has never played him in there from what I can remember, not even when they were with the U21s. On the other hand McDonnell has nearly always played Donaghy at FB. Its a no-brainer for me what way it'll work out- Donaghy at FB, Toner at midfield if they both play.

He has played FB at U21, in fact did he not start at FB last year v Donegal in Ballybofey and move out to MF or vice versa?  I think his lack of pace could be exposed at FB(or CHB) moreso than at MF, but I really do think a fit David McKenna will start v Tyrone and Toner will be in the mix somewhere.



Pretty sure he started full back against Derry in Casement, struggled I think if I can rememeber.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 22, 2009, 05:02:47 PM
I'm nearly sure he played CHB for the U21s, he was always named at FB for some reason but switched with Donaghy at the start. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 22, 2009, 05:29:01 PM
i was talking about toner anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 22, 2009, 08:47:32 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 22, 2009, 05:29:01 PM
i was talking about toner anyway.

Donaghy was full back against Donegal in Ballybofey.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 23, 2009, 07:56:49 AM
Toner started Centre back for the U21s in the Ulster final (Last time they won...) in Omagh. James Lavery & Paul COurtney started midfield, with Charlie in wing forward.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 23, 2009, 09:10:19 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 23, 2009, 07:56:49 AM
Toner started Centre back for the U21s in the Ulster final (Last time they won...) in Omagh. James Lavery & Paul COurtney started midfield, with Charlie in wing forward.

But I think Toner started full-back against Derry in the semi. He was ran ragged by someone, who now casting my mind back, could have been one Enda Lynn?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 23, 2009, 09:11:04 AM
Vernon getting some praise off our neighbours, our midfield answer.

Congrats to my fellow clubman Aidan O'Rourke, who seems to be doing a great job.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 23, 2009, 09:20:33 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 22, 2009, 08:47:32 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 22, 2009, 05:29:01 PM
i was talking about toner anyway.

Donaghy was full back against Donegal in Ballybofey.
I was talking about the U21 championship last year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 23, 2009, 01:43:36 PM
I hear Justin McNulty is to be the new Ogs manager.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bubbles on January 23, 2009, 02:07:52 PM
ogs management has not been chosen yet for this forthcoming year. this is a committee decision although i have heard that he is one of the candidates
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 23, 2009, 04:03:47 PM
are they not deciding the nite?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armamike on January 23, 2009, 10:54:10 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 01:15:42 PM
3 or 4 still small number of starters fro Cross, which says a lot.


There was never really any more than 3 starters from Cross at any time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on January 23, 2009, 11:02:13 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 23, 2009, 10:12:11 PM
Guys, anyone hear any word on the injury that Joe Feeney picked up the other night? It would be a pity if it was serious, he'd be due a few league run outs if he's fit.

from what i hear it not that serious. dont think anythings broke, hurt nerves in his shoulder i think!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 23, 2009, 11:35:51 PM
heard uuj beat cross tonight by around ten points in a friendly
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 23, 2009, 11:39:53 PM
Quote from: Armamike on January 23, 2009, 10:54:10 PM
Quote from: corn02 on January 22, 2009, 01:15:42 PM
3 or 4 still small number of starters fro Cross, which says a lot.


There was never really any more than 3 starters from Cross at any time.

Oisin, Francie and John McEntee in 2002. Possibly only Oisin and John were regular starters in 1999 / 2000 before Francie came onto the panel?

Just got out the programme from the 2000 semi final there - 2 McEntees and Oisin starting from Cross. Marsden wasnt playing according to the programme. Assume he was injured. Does anybody remember if he came on?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armamike on January 23, 2009, 11:49:15 PM
Marsden played in both semis against Kerry. He came on as a sub the first day i think, if i remember he was carrying an ankle injury from the Ulster semi against Fermanagh. 

Cross always had plenty of men about the panel the past 10 years but never more than 3/4 starters.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 24, 2009, 08:21:33 AM
Quote from: nearlymad on January 23, 2009, 10:46:44 PM
Quote from: mackers on January 23, 2009, 01:43:36 PM
I hear Justin McNulty is to be the new Ogs manager.
You'll find that Brendan Hughes,part of previous County Minor Managements, is the new Ogs Manager for '09.

yes, and all the best to him.  now we can get our season underway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on January 24, 2009, 04:42:08 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on January 24, 2009, 08:21:33 AM
Quote from: nearlymad on January 23, 2009, 10:46:44 PM
Quote from: mackers on January 23, 2009, 01:43:36 PM
I hear Justin McNulty is to be the new Ogs manager.
You'll find that Brendan Hughes,part of previous County Minor Managements, is the new Ogs Manager for '09.

yes, and all the best to him.  now we can get our season underway.

I'd like to wish him luck as well!! It'll be tough but a fresh approach maybe what we need this year!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on January 25, 2009, 01:12:06 AM
Does anyone know when the National League squad is to be announced and have a status report on the injury front?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on January 25, 2009, 01:13:45 AM
Do the Ogs feel they had to copy the Harps and get a Hughes on board?  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 25, 2009, 08:42:25 PM
Just for anyone who has any doubts on the matter i ve played against the Dromintee and the Cross defence and the difference is day and night. Cross are far superior both in terms of strength and organisation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: subkeeper on January 25, 2009, 11:21:55 PM
The provisional date for the killeavy sevens has been set for Sat 4th April.

This date will be confirmed over the next week or so when the invitations will be sent out to the clubs.

We also plan to extend the number of teams in this year competition.

Any feedback on last year's event will be gratefully received.

Any info you want on the competition just ask and I will try to respond.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Redhandfan on January 25, 2009, 11:32:44 PM
I wonder if Armagh supporters realise that their up-and-coming full back Brendan Donaghy is a man with other hidden talents.  I went along to see a play in Clonmore Hall on Thursday night past and, much to my great surprise, I realised that this Donaghy lad is equally at home on the stage as he is on the football field.  

Fair play to the fella....I don't know many other county players who would agree to take part in a local production while coping with the demands of inter-county football.  Proceeds from the play were in aid of the Clonmore club who are in the process of building new changing rooms.

Just for the record, Donaghy didn't fluff any of his lines and gave an assured performance on stage.....Armagh fans will be hoping that Hollywood don't come knocking on the door any time soon for their new star defender!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 26, 2009, 08:41:20 AM
Quote from: Redhandfan on January 25, 2009, 11:32:44 PM
I wonder if Armagh supporters realise that their up-and-coming full back Brendan Donaghy is a man with other hidden talents.  I went along to see a play in Clonmore Hall on Thursday night past and, much to my great surprise, I realised that this Donaghy lad is equally at home on the stage as he is on the football field.  

Fair play to the fella....I don't know many other county players who would agree to take part in a local production while coping with the demands of inter-county football.  Proceeds from the play were in aid of the Clonmore club who are in the process of building new changing rooms.

Just for the record, Donaghy didn't fluff any of his lines and gave an assured performance on stage.....Armagh fans will be hoping that Hollywood don't come knocking on the door any time soon for their new star defender!

Sounds like a High School Musical storyline.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 26, 2009, 10:21:02 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 25, 2009, 08:42:25 PM
Just for anyone who has any doubts on the matter i ve played against the Dromintee and the Cross defence and the difference is day and night. Cross are far superior both in terms of strength and organisation.

Yes that is right. The game you played aginst the two tams makes you the authority on it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 26, 2009, 10:51:56 AM
no corn i never said it was one game it has been several over the course of ten years. Oh and that is my opinion on it corn not an authority but a mere opinion. The years we played against Dromintee in the championship in particular we were able to score freely at times( we never won the game) but as you say the team mainly consists of three areas and perhaps our own defence wasn't up to scratch. We would never have got scoring against cross so easliy you saw that in the 06 final were we found it very difficult to penetrate them (as so many have before) and again this year when the demolished us at Cruppen. The defence Cross have could easily do a job at county level in the national league for example. I wouldn't share the same optimism for Dromintees defence or any other team in Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 26, 2009, 10:55:48 AM
Just done a qucik check there.

We have played Cross nine twimes in the Championship in the last eight years - L8 D1 W0.  :-\ But, taking into acocunt a few years when Cross have outclassed us, their scoring average is under 13 pioints - not great for an attacking unit such as them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 26, 2009, 11:14:00 AM

In which championship game did clans "score freely" against dromintee?

Only cross have scored "heavily" against dromintee in the championship - relatively speaking - and i think the most they've scored is about 1-10?. not many other teams would have scored into double figures against dromintee in the last 5 years
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 26, 2009, 11:18:09 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 26, 2009, 10:51:56 AM
no corn i never said it was one game it has been several over the course of ten years. Oh and that is my opinion on it corn not an authority but a mere opinion. The years we played against Dromintee in the championship in particular we were able to score freely at times( we never won the game) but as you say the team mainly consists of three areas and perhaps our own defence wasn't up to scratch. We would never have got scoring against cross so easliy you saw that in the 06 final were we found it very difficult to penetrate them (as so many have before) and again this year when the demolished us at Cruppen. The defence Cross have could easily do a job at county level in the national league for example. I wouldn't share the same optimism for Dromintees defence or any other team in Armagh.

The last times you played us in the Championship you hit 0-11 - hardly prolific.

Fair enough of it is an opinion, but you said for anyone that has doubts - which seems like you are giving more than an opinion.

Also want to state again that I have never said Dromintee have a better defence, but I honestly believe there is minimal difference.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 26, 2009, 11:19:00 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 26, 2009, 11:14:00 AM

In which championship game did clans "score freely" against dromintee?

Only cross have scored "heavily" against dromintee in the championship - relatively speaking - and i think the most they've scored is about 1-10?. not many other teams would have scored into double figures against dromintee in the last 5 years

2-10 2002. Interestingly, they have only scored one goal since then aginst us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on January 26, 2009, 11:32:50 AM
How many Dromintee Defenders are likely to be on the Armagh county Panel? and how many would you say have a (real) chance of starting in a championship match?

How many Cross Defenders are likely to be on the Armagh county panel? How many would you say have a (real) chance of starting in a championship match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 26, 2009, 12:18:37 PM

O'Rourke, Shannon and Martin will probably be on the panel. only O'Rourke will start.

Bellew, kernan, kernan and McKeown will probably be on the panel, ak will start (not necessarily in defence) and one of the other 3 could start in the full back line i'd say. thats not really a true reflection for a few reasons...

defences are units and county representation isn't necessarily a straight guide.

Donaldson and skinny McKeown are as good a club defenders as you'll find.

Benny McArdle currently starts corner back for louth, eddie martin is a top drawer club full back and kevin dyas has been an integral part of dromintee's defence
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 26, 2009, 12:28:56 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 26, 2009, 12:18:37 PM

O'Rourke, Shannon and Martin will probably be on the panel. only O'Rourke will start.

Bellew, kernan, kernan and McKeown will probably be on the panel, ak will start (not necessarily in defence) and one of the other 3 could start in the full back line i'd say. thats not really a true reflection for a few reasons...

defences are units and county representation isn't necessarily a straight guide.

Donaldson and skinny McKeown are as good a club defenders as you'll find.

Benny McArdle currently starts corner back for louth, eddie martin is a top drawer club full back and kevin dyas has been an integral part of dromintee's defence

Agreed.

I'd say it will end up Aaron and Aidan starting in defence, although I would like to see McKewon start as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 26, 2009, 12:30:49 PM
Is Vincey Martin originally from Silverbridge?  How did he end up with the 'Tee?  I always just assumed he was Eddie's bro.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 26, 2009, 12:36:28 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 26, 2009, 12:30:49 PM
Is Vincey Martin originally from Silverbridge?  How did he end up with the 'Tee?  I always just assumed he was Eddie's bro.

Cousin.

He started with Dromintee, moved to the Bridge for a few years and then returned about four years ago.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 26, 2009, 02:08:54 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 26, 2009, 11:14:00 AM

In which championship game did clans "score freely" against dromintee?

Only cross have scored "heavily" against dromintee in the championship - relatively speaking - and i think the most they've scored is about 1-10?. not many other teams would have scored into double figures against dromintee in the last 5 years


Unlike you Aghdavoyle i don't think scoring freely and heavily are the same thing. You use the term heavily i have never mentioned this. I am refering to pressure on the opposing team to score points. Whilst playing against the Cross defence you have a very small window of opportunity to put the ball over the bar or if you are lucky in the net.This is how they beat most teams because they stop you scoring. Whilst i was playing againsy Dromintee we had more time on the ball all around the pitch and that included some freely taken points from play (even in the championship games you refer too). I could write on the back of a stamp the amount of times this has happened against cross.

Everytime there is an argument about the Cross the Dromintee lads come on and spout about a record that contains at least 7 loses and one draw. Hardly a record worth boasting about and similar to the argument of who is second best ie totally irrelevant and meaningless. I also seem to remember the championship game a few years back in Silverbridge when Dromintee only managed to equate a mere 4 or 5 points against a cross defence simlilar to the clans last year. I will never be on here quoting records that span over a 9 year period with no wins in it.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 26, 2009, 02:54:40 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 26, 2009, 02:08:54 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 26, 2009, 11:14:00 AM

In which championship game did clans "score freely" against dromintee?

Only cross have scored "heavily" against dromintee in the championship - relatively speaking - and i think the most they've scored is about 1-10?. not many other teams would have scored into double figures against dromintee in the last 5 years


Unlike you Aghdavoyle i don't think scoring freely and heavily are the same thing. You use the term heavily i have never mentioned this. I am refering to pressure on the opposing team to score points. Whilst playing against the Cross defence you have a very small window of opportunity to put the ball over the bar or if you are lucky in the net.This is how they beat most teams because they stop you scoring. Whilst i was playing againsy Dromintee we had more time on the ball all around the pitch and that included some freely taken points from play (even in the championship games you refer too). I could write on the back of a stamp the amount of times this has happened against cross.

Everytime there is an argument about the Cross the Dromintee lads come on and spout about a record that contains at least 7 loses and one draw. Hardly a record worth boasting about and similar to the argument of who is second best ie totally irrelevant and meaningless. I also seem to remember the championship game a few years back in Silverbridge when Dromintee only managed to equate a mere 4 or 5 points against a cross defence simlilar to the clans last year. I will never be on here quoting records that span over a 9 year period with no wins in it.



Once again you fail to grasp what is being said, an your anti-Dromintee bias comes right to the surface.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 26, 2009, 03:09:33 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 26, 2009, 02:08:54 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 26, 2009, 11:14:00 AM

In which championship game did clans "score freely" against dromintee?

Only cross have scored "heavily" against dromintee in the championship - relatively speaking - and i think the most they've scored is about 1-10?. not many other teams would have scored into double figures against dromintee in the last 5 years


Unlike you Aghdavoyle i don't think scoring freely and heavily are the same thing. You use the term heavily i have never mentioned this. I am refering to pressure on the opposing team to score points. Whilst playing against the Cross defence you have a very small window of opportunity to put the ball over the bar or if you are lucky in the net.This is how they beat most teams because they stop you scoring. Whilst i was playing againsy Dromintee we had more time on the ball all around the pitch and that included some freely taken points from play (even in the championship games you refer too). I could write on the back of a stamp the amount of times this has happened against cross.

Everytime there is an argument about the Cross the Dromintee lads come on and spout about a record that contains at least 7 loses and one draw. Hardly a record worth boasting about and similar to the argument of who is second best ie totally irrelevant and meaningless. I also seem to remember the championship game a few years back in Silverbridge when Dromintee only managed to equate a mere 4 or 5 points against a cross defence simlilar to the clans last year. I will never be on here quoting records that span over a 9 year period with no wins in it.

Can you be that stupid?

couple of glaring points that should be made re your post:

If you were able to score "freely" against dromintee, why didn't you do it more often and get yourself a win?
maybe you had "too much time on the ball around the pitch" and forgot about scoring?

who's referring to dromintee's record other that you? the only record i referred to was the one of not having lost to clans

as you obviously don't credit the dromintee defence, what do you put our ability to challenge cross down to? our "free scoring" forward line perhaps?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 26, 2009, 03:21:40 PM
...Bring back the Silverbridge / Cullyhanna row...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 26, 2009, 03:40:12 PM


QuoteCan you be that stupid?

couple of glaring points that should be made re your post:

If you were able to score "freely" against dromintee, why didn't you do it more often and get yourself a win?
maybe you had "too much time on the ball around the pitch" and forgot about scoring?

who's referring to dromintee's record other that you? the only record i referred to was the one of not having lost to clans

as you obviously don't credit the dromintee defence, what do you put our ability to challenge cross down to? our "free scoring" forward line perhaps?

[/quote]

On your first point did it ever strike you that we just weren't good enough to score ??? However this doesn't take away from the fact that the opportunity was there. Certainly more readily than it would have been if were had been playing cross. If you start a poll on this thread asking which defence would you rather play against and for arguments sake put in Cross and Dromintee (simply because this is what we are talking about) I would say that most people would rather play against Dromintee (it is nothing to do with Bias Corn i happen to know a lot of decent players from dromintee and i have a lot more respect for them than some other clubs)

Your second point about refering to records. That can be attributed to Corn it was his good self that mentioned the stat. So I don't see how you can call anyone stupid. Someone mentioned Dyas and Shannon and even Mc Ardle . IMHO they were more play makers than actually man markers. Dyas was an exceptional talent but again imo all his best work was done going forward. Shannon was the same . Mc Ardle was a bit more wirey and could do a man marking job but as a defensive unit the Cross were far superior.By saying this i don't mean the Dromintee lads were a bad lot but i am simply saying that Cross as a Defensive unit were superior and still are superior to any team in the county. It has been this that have led the foundation for their successes. The reason Dromintee have run cross so close is because they have decent footballers all over the field. Arguably as talented as Cross But the reason they have came up short is the fact that they are not as well drilled and no where near efficient. Cross could win any game with about 40% of possession. Why? because they can grind out results and their defensive qualities (including forwards tarcking back) is top class. Other teams in Armagh may win the odd game with that stat but Cross would win them all if they had to.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 26, 2009, 03:56:30 PM


Not a bad climb down sir
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 26, 2009, 04:00:04 PM
Not a climb down at all I was saying that all along. But because i never mentioned about my respect for Dromintee you went all on the defensive. The original point was concerning the defence of Cross. That has remained unchanged.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 26, 2009, 05:16:12 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on January 26, 2009, 03:56:30 PM


Not a bad climb down sir

:D :D :D

Take it out of that Win... :D

Only messin ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 26, 2009, 05:53:11 PM
Win you made two posts, first one was ridiculous, second one was a good post.

Quote from: winsamsoon on January 26, 2009, 02:08:54 PM

Unlike you Aghdavoyle i don't think scoring freely and heavily are the same thing. You use the term heavily i have never mentioned this. I am refering to pressure on the opposing team to score points. Whilst playing against the Cross defence you have a very small window of opportunity to put the ball over the bar or if you are lucky in the net.This is how they beat most teams because they stop you scoring. Whilst i was playing againsy Dromintee we had more time on the ball all around the pitch and that included some freely taken points from play (even in the championship games you refer too). I could write on the back of a stamp the amount of times this has happened against cross.

Everytime there is an argument about the Cross the Dromintee lads come on and spout about a record that contains at least 7 loses and one draw. Hardly a record worth boasting about and similar to the argument of who is second best ie totally irrelevant and meaningless. I also seem to remember the championship game a few years back in Silverbridge when Dromintee only managed to equate a mere 4 or 5 points against a cross defence simlilar to the clans last year. I will never be on here quoting records that span over a 9 year period with no wins in it.


I don't see where you picked up any Dromintee poster boasting about a record or arguing that we were second best, that has had nothing to do with the debate that has went on and you brought it up. I mentioned our games with Cross because seeing as the debate surrounds these two teams I felt it was the best indicator. Defensively if you keep Cross to under 13 points average, you must not be doing too bad considering they have this crazy ability to kick points from anywhere - and that is not just there forwards, you can throw midfield and half backs into that. (ok Clarke and Donaldson excluded  :P).

Having been at all these matches bar one it is safe to say that there have been countless occassions of Dromintee forwards kicking wide when probably should have scored and Cross men, McEntee especially, kicking points that they had no right too.

As I said, I see very little between the rearguards, even with Kevy excluded. Crossmaglen's wide percentage over the last decade is probably the lowest you would see for a club team.

I really don't remember Clans moving freely against us over the last few years. We have only met a couple of times and none have been high-scoring games. In fact Cross' 2-10 kicked against us in 02 is the biggest tally we have conceded in Championship football since our first metting with Cross in 01. (I could be proved wrong here, but nothing is sticking out.)

BTW, we didn;t manager a mere four or five points, we managed two.  ;)




Quote from: winsamsoon on January 26, 2009, 02:08:54 PM

On your first point did it ever strike you that we just weren't good enough to score  However this doesn't take away from the fact that the opportunity was there. Certainly more readily than it would have been if were had been playing cross. If you start a poll on this thread asking which defence would you rather play against and for arguments sake put in Cross and Dromintee (simply because this is what we are talking about) I would say that most people would rather play against Dromintee (it is nothing to do with Bias Corn i happen to know a lot of decent players from dromintee and i have a lot more respect for them than some other clubs)

Your second point about refering to records. That can be attributed to Corn it was his good self that mentioned the stat. So I don't see how you can call anyone stupid. Someone mentioned Dyas and Shannon and even Mc Ardle . IMHO they were more play makers than actually man markers. Dyas was an exceptional talent but again imo all his best work was done going forward. Shannon was the same . Mc Ardle was a bit more wirey and could do a man marking job but as a defensive unit the Cross were far superior.By saying this i don't mean the Dromintee lads were a bad lot but i am simply saying that Cross as a Defensive unit were superior and still are superior to any team in the county. It has been this that have led the foundation for their successes. The reason Dromintee have run cross so close is because they have decent footballers all over the field. Arguably as talented as Cross But the reason they have came up short is the fact that they are not as well drilled and no where near efficient. Cross could win any game with about 40% of possession. Why? because they can grind out results and their defensive qualities (including forwards tarcking back) is top class. Other teams in Armagh may win the odd game with that stat but Cross would win them all if they had to.


A better effort indeed.
Your first point about Clans not being good enough to score can maybe answer the Dromintee conodrum against Cross - missing chances we should have scored.

Of course everybody would want to face Dromintee, Cross are the best, no question, nobody is questioning that in the slightest.

Indeed Shannon and McArdle are ver ygood going forward, but they are very capably defeensively. Shannon has become a bit more conservative and McConville and McArdle had a couple of great battles.

For Dyas I have to disagree. He was the total package, his tackling/defensive duties were as impressive as his attacking abilities in my opinion. Someo f the tackles he put in over the last couple of years were first class.

I think you sort of counter your own argument when you say nobody is as efficient as Cross - exactly my point, particuarly in the shooting division.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2009, 06:20:57 PM
I'll tell you what corn and Aghdavoyle, you probably do have a better defence, of which you are proud.  Can I exchange 5 of my medals to be in that defence? :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 26, 2009, 06:36:14 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2009, 06:20:57 PM
I'll tell you what corn and Aghdavoyle, you probably do have a better defence, of which you are proud.  Can I exchange 5 of my medals to be in that defence? :P

Boom boom, knew that would come from you.

Once again I never said we had a better defence.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2009, 07:02:22 PM
I am being facetious corn because it is a futile argument.  I have no doubt that Dromintee are good but as a unit we have always built our strenght on stopping teams scoring.  Every game in Armagh and also in Ulster are vey tight as most teams put out their stall to stop us playing instead of trying to win the game.  As a result they are low scoring games. Whenever teams play football then we can outscore them as well.

At the end of the day Cross are hard to beat, as are Dromintee, but it means feck all useless you win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 26, 2009, 07:15:07 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 26, 2009, 07:02:22 PM


At the end of the day Cross are hard to beat, as are Dromintee, but it means feck all useless you win.

True, true.

I still think there is little between the defences.

Stop showing off with your big words!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 26, 2009, 07:15:49 PM
So now we're on to who has the best defence?

Have we decided on who's second best yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on January 26, 2009, 09:51:17 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 26, 2009, 07:15:49 PM
So now we're on to who has the best defence?

Have we decided on who's second best yet?

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 26, 2009, 09:51:32 PM
at the risk of being on the same level as the silverbridge v cullyhanna debate i will hang them up on this one.(aghdavoyle you can take this as a sign that i am conceeding if you wish in your petty little fight for  good against evil)  climb down ;) :D :D

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on January 26, 2009, 10:14:54 PM
BC1
Why didn't you stay out of this. I was really enjoying it. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 3000 miles away on January 27, 2009, 02:30:02 AM
well lads new to all this craic but find the last few pages of debate interesting, if i could add my pennies worth to the debate, i agree about the step up from club to county is bigger than most think, as an example Stephen o neill is this years all ireland, he was posting big scores all summer with his club and although he was ok in the all ireland he wasnt the stephen o neill we would have seen if he had been with the county all year. The cross players although they are playing at a high level during the all ireland club i think for the younger fellas looking to break into the team,their success with cross curtails there chance to impress mc donell and co. on the subject of peader toal, with the proper coaching and application this fella is a super footballer, a bit of a loose cannon yes but thats part and parcel of the man, if he got his head right and few games under his belt he could be one link in the chain of gettin the half forward line back to its primary job. he might not have the commitment of john mc entee of some of his other attribtes but his left foot (i think) is just as sweet and he can kick long distance scores which we need to get back. i'll have a stab at the team for the tyrone game.
                       

                                 P HEARTY
PMCKEOWN/FINN MO    B DONAGHY    A MALLON

A KERNAN                    C MC KEEVER  AN OTHER

                P MC GRANE             D MCKENNA/J LAVERY

P TOAL                      B MALLON        M O ROURKE

S MC DONNELL            R CLARKE        T KERNAN/S FORKER
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rosskarr on January 27, 2009, 07:59:45 AM
Quote from: 3000 miles away on January 27, 2009, 02:30:02 AM
well lads new to all this craic but find the last few pages of debate interesting, if i could add my pennies worth to the debate, i agree about the step up from club to county is bigger than most think, as an example Stephen o neill is this years all ireland, he was posting big scores all summer with his club and although he was ok in the all ireland he wasnt the stephen o neill we would have seen if he had been with the county all year. The cross players although they are playing at a high level during the all ireland club i think for the younger fellas looking to break into the team,their success with cross curtails there chance to impress mc donell and co. on the subject of peader toal, with the proper coaching and application this fella is a super footballer, a bit of a loose cannon yes but thats part and parcel of the man, if he got his head right and few games under his belt he could be one link in the chain of gettin the half forward line back to its primary job. he might not have the commitment of john mc entee of some of his other attribtes but his left foot (i think) is just as sweet and he can kick long distance scores which we need to get back. i'll have a stab at the team for the tyrone game.
                       

                                 P HEARTY
PMCKEOWN/FINN MO    B DONAGHY    A MALLON

A KERNAN                    C MC KEEVER  AN OTHER

                P MC GRANE             D MCKENNA/J LAVERY

P TOAL                      B MALLON        M O ROURKE

S MC DONNELL            R CLARKE        T KERNAN/S FORKER

   You must be 3000 miles away up in space!  ;D  No Charlie Vernon?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on January 27, 2009, 09:48:50 AM
Quote from: 3000 miles away on January 27, 2009, 02:30:02 AM
as an example Stephen o neill is this years all ireland, he was posting big scores all summer with his club and although he was ok in the all ireland he wasnt the stephen o neill we would have seen if he had been with the county all year.

Bit of a difference playing Intermediate/2nd best grade football for Clan na Gael & playing for Cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 27, 2009, 11:43:47 AM

During the summer, cross players aren't exposed to any higher standard of football than any other club in armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on January 27, 2009, 12:03:23 PM
Quote from: rosskarr on January 27, 2009, 07:59:45 AM
Quote from: 3000 miles away on January 27, 2009, 02:30:02 AM
well lads new to all this craic but find the last few pages of debate interesting, if i could add my pennies worth to the debate, i agree about the step up from club to county is bigger than most think, as an example Stephen o neill is this years all ireland, he was posting big scores all summer with his club and although he was ok in the all ireland he wasnt the stephen o neill we would have seen if he had been with the county all year. The cross players although they are playing at a high level during the all ireland club i think for the younger fellas looking to break into the team,their success with cross curtails there chance to impress mc donell and co. on the subject of peader toal, with the proper coaching and application this fella is a super footballer, a bit of a loose cannon yes but thats part and parcel of the man, if he got his head right and few games under his belt he could be one link in the chain of gettin the half forward line back to its primary job. he might not have the commitment of john mc entee of some of his other attribtes but his left foot (i think) is just as sweet and he can kick long distance scores which we need to get back. i'll have a stab at the team for the tyrone game.
                       

                                 P HEARTY
PMCKEOWN/FINN MO    B DONAGHY    A MALLON

A KERNAN                    C MC KEEVER  AN OTHER

                P MC GRANE             D MCKENNA/J LAVERY

P TOAL                      B MALLON        M O ROURKE

S MC DONNELL            R CLARKE        T KERNAN/S FORKER

   You must be 3000 miles away up in space!  ;D  No Charlie Vernon?

And no Kieran Toner ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on January 27, 2009, 06:15:47 PM
Quote from: 3000 miles away on January 27, 2009, 02:30:02 AM
well lads new to all this craic but find the last few pages of debate interesting, if i could add my pennies worth to the debate, i agree about the step up from club to county is bigger than most think, as an example Stephen o neill is this years all ireland, he was posting big scores all summer with his club and although he was ok in the all ireland he wasnt the stephen o neill we would have seen if he had been with the county all year. The cross players although they are playing at a high level during the all ireland club i think for the younger fellas looking to break into the team,their success with cross curtails there chance to impress mc donell and co. on the subject of peader toal, with the proper coaching and application this fella is a super footballer, a bit of a loose cannon yes but thats part and parcel of the man, if he got his head right and few games under his belt he could be one link in the chain of gettin the half forward line back to its primary job. he might not have the commitment of john mc entee of some of his other attribtes but his left foot (i think) is just as sweet and he can kick long distance scores which we need to get back. i'll have a stab at the team for the tyrone game.
                       

                                 P HEARTY
PMCKEOWN/FINN MO    B DONAGHY    A MALLON

A KERNAN                    C MC KEEVER  AN OTHER

                P MC GRANE             D MCKENNA/J LAVERY

P TOAL                      B MALLON        M O ROURKE

S MC DONNELL            R CLARKE        T KERNAN/S FORKER

Surely this team has to include K Toner & definitely Vernon. Otherwise a sound looking team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 27, 2009, 07:12:16 PM
Are we talking League or Championship team here?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 27, 2009, 08:19:02 PM
would say that henderson/feeney and possibly kor ahead of kernan at the minute in terms starting.  at the minute he has no hance starting dont even think he starting for cross?  hasnt stopped the kernans before though ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on January 27, 2009, 09:46:14 PM
Some of the men being touted for inter-county success with Armagh have had the same reputation for a few years now as being 'the next best thing' out of Armagh and ... we are still being teased from management and county board that the best is yet to come.  If Aaron Kernan's interview with the IN the other week is anything to go by then 2009 will be a year to watch...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 28, 2009, 07:56:57 AM
I thought Tony Kernan had a fine debut season.

He came on & won the match v Cavan in Cross. He also kicked a right few scores, from both free kicks & 45s!

He provided excallent link up play in my opinion also.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on January 28, 2009, 09:24:47 AM
is this thread not for armagh club football and hurling?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 28, 2009, 10:40:07 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 28, 2009, 07:56:57 AM
I thought Tony Kernan had a fine debut season.

He came on & won the match v Cavan in Cross. He also kicked a right few scores, from both free kicks & 45s!

He provided excallent link up play in my opinion also.

Don't think i could possibly disagree more. He is a decent free taker and obvious;y had a great debut in that regard against cavan.
otherwise, he was rank bad. particularly in the championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 28, 2009, 01:19:44 PM
The rules are getting more farcical by the day.


Armagh are fuming after Aidan O'Rourke picked up a controversial one-month suspension which rules him out of their NFL opener against Wexford on Sunday.

O'Rourke received the suspension as his 'reward' for taking time out to coach Queen's University in the McKenna Cup. The Orchard County star got four weeks for remonstrating with a linesman during the win over - ironically - Armagh.



He spent the rest of the McKenna Cup campaign in the stands but is now also ruled out of his county's opening league assignment, much to the wrath of everybody concerned:

"I wasn't too up on the rules in this to tell the truth, but it seems a bit odd. It certainly doesn't encourage fellas to get involved in coaching if this is going to be the case.

"It's an aspect I hadn't really thought of. It has ramifications for coaching the team but the big thing for me was not being able to play for Armagh.

"In Sigerson, you just stand on one side of the rope so it is irrelevant really. But Armagh are not too happy about me missing the game in Wexford."
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 3000 miles away on January 28, 2009, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on January 27, 2009, 06:15:47 PM
Quote from: 3000 miles away on January 27, 2009, 02:30:02 AM
well lads new to all this craic but find the last few pages of debate interesting, if i could add my pennies worth to the debate, i agree about the step up from club to county is bigger than most think, as an example Stephen o neill is this years all ireland, he was posting big scores all summer with his club and although he was ok in the all ireland he wasnt the stephen o neill we would have seen if he had been with the county all year. The cross players although they are playing at a high level during the all ireland club i think for the younger fellas looking to break into the team,their success with cross curtails there chance to impress mc donell and co. on the subject of peader toal, with the proper coaching and application this fella is a super footballer, a bit of a loose cannon yes but thats part and parcel of the man, if he got his head right and few games under his belt he could be one link in the chain of gettin the half forward line back to its primary job. he might not have the commitment of john mc entee of some of his other attribtes but his left foot (i think) is just as sweet and he can kick long distance scores which we need to get back. i'll have a stab at the team for the tyrone game.
                       

                                 P HEARTY
PMCKEOWN/FINN MO    B DONAGHY    A MALLON

A KERNAN                    C MC KEEVER  AN OTHER

                P MC GRANE             D MCKENNA/J LAVERY

P TOAL                      B MALLON        M O ROURKE

S MC DONNELL            R CLARKE        T KERNAN/S FORKER

Surely this team has to include K Toner & definitely Vernon. Otherwise a sound looking team,

and where do these fellas slot in, im thinkin we need a tall rangey midfielder again, ie john toal=02 philip loughran=03, perhaps the league will answer this question, joe feeney is an interesting dimension to a full forward line but whoever plays here is gonna be playing out round the half forward line, k o rourke could also be an addition although height isnt on his side and he's light, eamon maguire,mark little etc dont fair out to badly and we need a live wire like that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 28, 2009, 02:03:55 PM
Quote from: 3000 miles away on January 28, 2009, 02:00:26 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on January 27, 2009, 06:15:47 PM
Quote from: 3000 miles away on January 27, 2009, 02:30:02 AM
well lads new to all this craic but find the last few pages of debate interesting, if i could add my pennies worth to the debate, i agree about the step up from club to county is bigger than most think, as an example Stephen o neill is this years all ireland, he was posting big scores all summer with his club and although he was ok in the all ireland he wasnt the stephen o neill we would have seen if he had been with the county all year. The cross players although they are playing at a high level during the all ireland club i think for the younger fellas looking to break into the team,their success with cross curtails there chance to impress mc donell and co. on the subject of peader toal, with the proper coaching and application this fella is a super footballer, a bit of a loose cannon yes but thats part and parcel of the man, if he got his head right and few games under his belt he could be one link in the chain of gettin the half forward line back to its primary job. he might not have the commitment of john mc entee of some of his other attribtes but his left foot (i think) is just as sweet and he can kick long distance scores which we need to get back. i'll have a stab at the team for the tyrone game.
                       

                                 P HEARTY
PMCKEOWN/FINN MO    B DONAGHY    A MALLON

A KERNAN                    C MC KEEVER  AN OTHER

                P MC GRANE             D MCKENNA/J LAVERY

P TOAL                      B MALLON        M O ROURKE

S MC DONNELL            R CLARKE        T KERNAN/S FORKER

Surely this team has to include K Toner & definitely Vernon. Otherwise a sound looking team,

and where do these fellas slot in, im thinkin we need a tall rangey midfielder again, ie john toal=02 philip loughran=03, perhaps the league will answer this question, joe feeney is an interesting dimension to a full forward line but whoever plays here is gonna be playing out round the half forward line, k o rourke could also be an addition although height isnt on his side and he's light, eamon maguire,mark little etc dont fair out to badly and we need a live wire like that.


My team for Championship.

AN Other

McKeown Donaghy Mallon
McKeever O'Rourke An Other (good player him)

Vernon McGrane

AK Mallon/SK (a lot of people disgarding SK again this year) MOR
McDonnell Clarke AN Nother (he'll be wrecked)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on January 28, 2009, 03:07:02 PM
Corn just noticed there that you have placed Charlie in midfield, I was going to reply to this but then remembered what I had posted on the infamous "Charlie Vernon thread"..

Vernon is from our club. From u12 he has been tipped as the man who could make a difference. He has done it at every single level and played against some of the best at minor, u21 and even roughed it with the Australians when he was captain of the u18 compromise rules squad that travelled to Australia and won the tour, earning the man of the series title. He has won all of his honours playing in the central positions of CHB or MF. The only obstacle he has left to conquer is Senior Intercounty football, and hand on my heart, having watched him from 11 years of age, I feel that if he is given the opportunity to flourish and play in his position of Midfield then it will only be a matter of time until he is talked about in the same breath as McGrane, Cavanagh and Tohill.

A midfield partnership in Gaelic is like one in soccer... one player needs to be restrained and cover the defence, one needs to go forward and chip in with scores. At the minute I feel too much emphasis is placed on Paul McGrane within the Armagh team and there is almost a feeling of whatever Paul does then the other midfielder has to do the other job, basically McGrane gets to decide what he can do. This is something Paul has earned with many outstanding displays and why I feel Charlie would not be a suitable partner for him. When Paul retires I think Charlie should be our number 1 midfielder, given the free role he has with Queens and with Harps to attack and score. His fielding is immense, his tackling is first class (something exhibited in McKenna Cup and Sigerson games thus far), and his score taking ability is great. His passing is very good also, and I believe that when he does become our number 1 midfielder that Ronan Clarke and McDonnell can benefit from his surging runs with layoffs or his long passing ability. But until McGrane calls it a day I don't think Charlie is suited to Armagh's midfield. Until then Charlie will have to make do with doing the donkey running that seems almost compulsory for Armagh half forwards... I look forward to the day when Charlie's real talent is unleashed and people finally realise what all the fuss is about...


But I am only one man and that is simply my opinion...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 28, 2009, 03:29:22 PM
Interesting points Nashville.

He has rarely failed to impress me, he was even decent last year despite people saying he had a bad first starting year for Armagh.

I see where you are coming for regarding two midfielders being too similar. It is the way that he game has gone, too technical. Each midfielder has a role. I am old-fashioned though, give me two men that can tackle, field and kick the odd score and throw them in. I don't care about balance, gie me two lads , like McGrane does and Vernon looks capable of doing, and I will be happy. Throw in a mark rule for cathing from a kick-out and I'll be doubly pleased.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on January 28, 2009, 03:33:11 PM
New managers at Silverbridge : Bernard Connolly and Kevin Byrne have taken on job. Two well respected men within the club ,so best wishes to them. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 28, 2009, 03:36:01 PM
Real solid Bridge men, can we expect now that the current team follow on the time honoured of both men as players and cut the shite out of anything that moved, including their own? :P

Quote from: twotwocharlie on January 28, 2009, 03:33:11 PM
New managers at Silverbridge : Bernard Connolly and Kevin Byrne have taken on job. Two well respected men within the club ,so best wishes to them. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 28, 2009, 04:08:40 PM
Sorry Nash but i disagree about Charlie...When you have 2 midfielder playing it doesn't matter if they're similar or not they have to have the brains for 1 to sit and cover when the other 1 is on the attack or visa versa, the 2 lads can't bomb forward like forest gump it's using your brain and I'd say if they played together Paul would gladly sit and hold the fort whilst Charles wrecks havoc in attack while if Paul gets the opportunity to break forward then Charlie will sit...

thats only my opinion ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 28, 2009, 04:12:30 PM
I'd agree... if they take turns they'll last longer!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 28, 2009, 04:43:25 PM
I am nicking this off someone else, but I think this might be a decent idea.

Vernon CHB

MF  Toner and David McKenna

CHF Paul McGrane.

Toner as a holding defensive MF to cover when Vernon breaks forward.  McGrane can play as an attacking MF in the CF role without the same exposure that you would get in MF.  Only an idea
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on January 28, 2009, 04:51:29 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 28, 2009, 04:43:25 PM
I am nicking this off someone else, but I think this might be a decent idea.

Vernon CHB

MF  Toner and David McKenna

CHF Paul McGrane.

Toner as a holding defensive MF to cover when Vernon breaks forward.  McGrane can play as an attacking MF in the CF role without the same exposure that you would get in MF.  Only an idea

Vernon is not a half back - never will be from what I have seen of him
and truth be told I wouldn't want to be relying on McGrane to take scores.  In fairness he has kicked some good points but when he gets the ball and looks up I find myself cringing at a wasted opportunity to lay the ball off to a more natural score taker
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 28, 2009, 04:53:15 PM
Only one problem BC Mc Grane will have ten shots and score 1. Now that wee plan would work beter if you switched Mc Grane and Vernon because at least Venon can take a score.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 28, 2009, 05:12:01 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 28, 2009, 04:08:40 PM
Sorry Nash but i disagree about Charlie...When you have 2 midfielder playing it doesn't matter if they're similar or not they have to have the brains for 1 to sit and cover when the other 1 is on the attack or visa versa, the 2 lads can't bomb forward like forest gump it's using your brain and I'd say if they played together Paul would gladly sit and hold the fort whilst Charles wrecks havoc in attack while if Paul gets the opportunity to break forward then Charlie will sit...

thats only my opinion ???

Agreed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on January 28, 2009, 06:26:32 PM
2009 Club Managers - Fill in the Blanks accordingly.

ACL – Division One
Carrickcruppen - Jim Loughran.
Clan na Gael  - Gerard Skelton & Enda Brady
Crossmaglen -
Culloville
Dromintee - Colin Kelly
Killeavey
Mullaghbawn
Pearse Og - Brendan Hughes.
St Patrick's - Joe Mallon & Paul Rouse.
Sarsfields

ACL – Division Two
Ballyhegan
Ballymacnab - Jerome Johnson
Clann Eireann
Granemore - John Toner
Harps - Nudie Hughes
Madden
Maghery
St Michael's
Silverbridge - Bernard Connolly & Kevin Byrne
Tir na nÓg - Aiden Farrell
Whitecross - Killian Finnegan
Wolfe Tone - Michael Magill

ACL – Division Three
Annaghmore - Aiden McGahan
An Port Mor - Peter Bayne
Belleek
Clonmore
Collegeland - Niall Gorman
Keady - John Toal
Lissummon
Middletown
St Paul's
St Peter's
Shane O'Neill's
Tullysaran - Audi Hamiliton

ACL – Division Four
Clady
Corrinshego
Crossmaglen II
Derrynoose
Dorsey Emmett's
Eire Og
Forkhill
Grange -Colm Toal, Tam Gribben & James O'Hagan
Mullaghbrack
O'Hanlon's
Phelim Brady's
Killean- Hugh Morgan?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on January 28, 2009, 09:33:13 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on January 28, 2009, 03:33:11 PM
New managers at Silverbridge : Bernard Connolly and Kevin Byrne have taken on job. Two well respected men within the club ,so best wishes to them. ;D ;D ;D
you sure bout that two two?? if so i wish them all the best 4 the year.couldnt be ne worst than the last 2 years...hopefully the bridge can get everybody back on board and give the c.ship a good go....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 3000 miles away on January 29, 2009, 12:43:24 AM
from what i know of p mc donnell he's a defensive minded manager, unless he shakes that off after last years shambles, but i can see him goin with at least one midfielder who is defensive minded, and if he could somehow turn p mc grane into this kind of player we could be on a winner round midfield, let one of the youger fellas do the attacking play like charlie,mckenna,lavery etc(dont think this role would suit toner) and this would leave mc grane to do his fielding and have a presence in and around the engine room for the younger fellas, and after a bit of thinking i think we need a CHF that could shield our midfield for kick outs like j mc entee used to, i think mc grane misses john for this job and also that john used to take the odd vital catch and relieve pressure from mc grane and co, another aspect of the game we need to look at is, the goalkeeper needs to start looking for the odd short kick if its on, hearty i know drives the ball 80 yards down the field but he can do the short game no problem,2003 being an example and he used to do it with cross wit stephen clarke alot,this pulls some traffic out of midfield.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 29, 2009, 09:31:15 AM
QuoteVernon is not a half back - never will be from what I have seen of him
and truth be told I wouldn't want to be relying on McGrane to take scores.  In fairness he has kicked some good points but when he gets the ball and looks up I find myself cringing at a wasted opportunity to lay the ball off to a more natural score taker

Martin O'Rourke is the current CHF and he never scores, and doesn't have a great shot.  I think McGrane could be a good link man in that position and has the strength and intelligence to win break ball as well.  Worth trying it out in my opinion.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 29, 2009, 09:45:05 AM
Quote from: gander on January 29, 2009, 09:31:15 AM
QuoteVernon is not a half back - never will be from what I have seen of him
and truth be told I wouldn't want to be relying on McGrane to take scores.  In fairness he has kicked some good points but when he gets the ball and looks up I find myself cringing at a wasted opportunity to lay the ball off to a more natural score taker

Martin O'Rourke is the current CHF and he never scores, and doesn't have a great shot.  I think McGrane could be a good link man in that position and has the strength and intelligence to win break ball as well.  Worth trying it out in my opinion.

Marty lines out at 10.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on January 29, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 29, 2009, 09:45:05 AM
Quote from: gander on January 29, 2009, 09:31:15 AM
QuoteVernon is not a half back - never will be from what I have seen of him
and truth be told I wouldn't want to be relying on McGrane to take scores.  In fairness he has kicked some good points but when he gets the ball and looks up I find myself cringing at a wasted opportunity to lay the ball off to a more natural score taker

Martin O'Rourke is the current CHF and he never scores, and doesn't have a great shot.  I think McGrane could be a good link man in that position and has the strength and intelligence to win break ball as well.  Worth trying it out in my opinion.

Marty lines out at 10.

he didnt last year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 29, 2009, 10:13:50 AM
Quote from: gander on January 29, 2009, 09:54:49 AM
Quote from: corn02 on January 29, 2009, 09:45:05 AM
Quote from: gander on January 29, 2009, 09:31:15 AM
QuoteVernon is not a half back - never will be from what I have seen of him
and truth be told I wouldn't want to be relying on McGrane to take scores.  In fairness he has kicked some good points but when he gets the ball and looks up I find myself cringing at a wasted opportunity to lay the ball off to a more natural score taker

Martin O'Rourke is the current CHF and he never scores, and doesn't have a great shot.  I think McGrane could be a good link man in that position and has the strength and intelligence to win break ball as well.  Worth trying it out in my opinion.

Marty lines out at 10.

he didnt last year

Yes he did.

Sk, Mallon and Paddy McKeever all played at 11 during the Championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 29, 2009, 10:30:58 AM

Are there traditional positions in the forward line any more?

by extension, are there defined defensive positions any more?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on January 29, 2009, 10:35:52 AM
True. Marty lined out on the wing, but to tie him down to a position is worng, he was in three different lines.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on January 29, 2009, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: MOJO on January 28, 2009, 06:26:32 PM
2009 Club Managers - Fill in the Blanks accordingly.

ACL – Division One
Carrickcruppen Jim Loughran
Clan na Gael  - Gerard Skelton & Enda Brady
Crossmaglen -
Culloville
Dromintee - Colin Kelly
Killeavey
Mullaghbawn
Pearse Og - Brendan Hughes.
St Patrick's - Joe Mallon & Paul Rouse.
Sarsfields

ACL – Division Two
Ballyhegan
Ballymacnab - Jerome Johnston
Clann Eireann
Granemore - John Toner
Harps - Nudie Hughes
Madden
Maghery
St Michael's
Silverbridge - Bernard Connolly & Kevin Byrne
Tir na nÓg - Aiden Farrell
Whitecross - Killian Finnegan
Wolfe Tone - Michael Magill

ACL – Division Three
Annaghmore - Aiden McGahan
An Port Mor
Belleek
Clonmore
Collegeland - Niall Gorman
Keady - John Toal
Lissummon
Middletown
St Paul's
St Peter's
Shane O'Neill's
Tullysaran - Audi Hamiliton

ACL – Division Four
Clady
Corrinshego
Crossmaglen II
Derrynoose
Dorsey Emmett's
Eire Og
Forkhill
Grange -Colm Toal, Tam Gribben & James O'Hagan
Mullaghbrack
O'Hanlon's
Phelim Brady's
Killean- Hugh Morgan?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on January 29, 2009, 05:38:05 PM
Any word on the opening league fixtures?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 30, 2009, 09:54:26 AM
We usually get an early dig at Cross in the league usually first or second game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 30, 2009, 11:45:40 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 30, 2009, 09:54:26 AM
We usually get an early dig at Cross in the league usually first or second game.

I would re-phrase that saan, "Cross usually get an early dig at the Clans" in or around the 1st or 2nd league game :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 30, 2009, 01:01:44 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 30, 2009, 11:45:40 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 30, 2009, 09:54:26 AM
We usually get an early dig at Cross in the league usually first or second game.

I would re-phrase that saan, "Cross usually get an early dig at the Clans" in or around the 1st or 2nd league game :D

I'm glad you posted that ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 30, 2009, 01:52:52 PM
Maybe you didn't hear me correctly Clans usually get a dig at the Cross first or second game ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 30, 2009, 02:22:53 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 30, 2009, 01:52:52 PM
Maybe you didn't hear me correctly Clans usually get a dig at the Cross first or second game ;)

illdecide saan ;) :D

Can't wait for it myself, at least we'll know where we are with all these young bucks ??? (except you Win, your old as fcuk)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on January 30, 2009, 02:29:09 PM
Any word of team picked for wexford game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 30, 2009, 03:30:59 PM
Believe me saan after wednesday night i feel old as fcuk :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on February 01, 2009, 04:59:30 PM
Ryan Henderson hardly lorded it  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on February 01, 2009, 08:31:50 PM
Nice to see Oisin's 2002 goal getting an airing on the 125 year video compilation at the bash at Croke Pk. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on February 02, 2009, 12:30:14 PM
Mid Armagh Cup starts this weekend.  Harps v Madden (In Sherrys at 12.30??), who else is in it this year? first time in a few years that we have entered.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 02, 2009, 04:39:25 PM
Think we play granemore. Is there any league fixtures made yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 02, 2009, 08:37:40 PM
I see a P Duffy came on for London yesterday, is that Paul or Pauric or anyone?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on February 02, 2009, 08:38:19 PM
Quote from: corn02 on February 02, 2009, 08:37:40 PM
I see a P Duffy came on for London yesterday, is that Paul or Pauric or anyone?

Has to be someone
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on February 02, 2009, 09:14:16 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on February 02, 2009, 08:38:19 PM
Quote from: corn02 on February 02, 2009, 08:37:40 PM
I see a P Duffy came on for London yesterday, is that Paul or Pauric or anyone?

Has to be someone

Padraig, moved to London last year and he featured in the Tommy Murphy cup against Sligo and Antrim. Think he also played in the London Championship final for Neasdon Gaels (think that's right anyway). Paul is still knocking round the Armagh panel but he got a bad injury in the first minute of last years county final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 02, 2009, 09:26:55 PM
did he banjo his shoulder in that game???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sidelined on February 02, 2009, 11:58:49 PM
2009 Club Managers - Fill in the Blanks accordingly.

ACL – Division One
Carrickcruppen Jim Loughran
Clan na Gael  - Gerard Skelton & Enda Brady
Crossmaglen - Donal Murtagh
Culloville -Malachy Watters
Dromintee - Colin Kelly
Killeavey David Reilly
Mullaghbawn Situation Vacant
Pearse Og - Brendan Hughes.
St Patrick's - Joe Mallon & Paul Rouse.
Sarsfields

ACL – Division Two
Ballyhegan
Ballymacnab - Jerome Johnston
Clann Eireann
Granemore - John Toner
Harps - Nudie Hughes
Madden
Maghery
St Michael's Kelly O'Rourke
Silverbridge - Bernard Connolly & Kevin Byrne
Tir na nÓg - Aiden Farrell
Whitecross - Killian Finnegan
Wolfe Tone - Michael Magill

ACL – Division Three
Annaghmore - Aiden McGahan
An Port Mor
Belleek Martin Smyth
Clonmore
Collegeland - Niall Gorman
Keady - John Toal
Lissummon Robert Wilson
Middletown
St Paul's
St Peter's
Shane O'Neill's Davey O'Brien
Tullysaran - Audi Hamiliton

ACL – Division Four
Clady
Corrinshego Ronan McAlinden
Crossmaglen II
Derrynoose
Dorsey Emmett's Barry Loughran
Eire Og
Forkhill Thomas McDonnell
Grange -Colm Toal, Tam Gribben & James O'Hagan
Mullaghbrack
O'Hanlon's Ronan Maginnis
Phelim Brady's
Killean- Hugh Morgan?

This is what I picked out of last weeks Newry Democrat - they did a round up of managers in S Armagh and S Down
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on February 03, 2009, 12:59:52 AM
The whole area of transfers is a minefield. Your best option is to seek guidance from your County Assistant Secretary. They seem to have an uncanny knack of the ins and outs of club transfers.
My understanding is that if the club that you want to transfer to is in the same Parish as the club that you want to leave, then you are 100% within your rights to do so.

For all other ways to procure the transfer of a player, refer to the Loughinisland GFC Guide to Club Transfers. It wil teach you a thing or two  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tyrone86 on February 03, 2009, 01:12:59 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on February 03, 2009, 12:23:27 AM
Im not trying to wind anyone up or stir anything here but Ive been asked to look into a transfer request on behalf of a number of players who wish to move between clubs in the same parish but are meeting reluctance from their home club.  I know what their options are vis a vis going to the county board but I remember when JP Donnelly moved there was some talk on here about the transfer being slightly out of the ordinary rules wise because of the two clubs being within the same parish.  Am I remembering this correctly and if so what was the rule that made the transfer strange.  Any help would be greatly appreciated

Rule 38 Transfers Within County

(a) A County shall have a Bye-Law governing the transfer of players from one Club to another within the County.

(b) A County Bye-Law may confine membership of a Club to a Catchment Area, which may be a Parish. A Parish for the purpose of this Rule shall, subject to County  boundaries, be the district under the jurisdiction of a Parish Priest or Administrator.
A Catchment Area shall be fundamentally based on permanent residence of players, subject to a player being entitled to play with his Home Club.
Permanent Residence shall be defined in County Bye-Law.
A County shall also have the option, within County Bye-Law, to allow a player to play with a Club in the area in which he works.

(c) A player who wishes to leave one Club to join another in the same County must apply to the County Committee for a transfer.

(d) A County Committee has the right, acting within its Bye-Law, to grant or not to grant an application for Transfer.

(e) A County Committee may delegate to a Sub- Committee the authority to deal with applications for Transfer, but a County Committee shall retain the
right to make final adjudication on an application.

Penalty: For playing without transfer - 12 weeks suspension.


In theory, the way the rule is worded in terms of catchment area means that they should be able to move freely within the parish, but it depends on the way the bye law is worded.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T O Hare on February 03, 2009, 01:14:44 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on February 03, 2009, 12:59:52 AM
The whole area of transfers is a minefield. Your best option is to seek guidance from your County Assistant Secretary. They seem to have an uncanny knack of the ins and outs of club transfers.
My understanding is that if the club that you want to transfer to is in the same Parish as the club that you want to leave, then you are 100% within your rights to do so.

For all other ways to procure the transfer of a player, refer to the Loughinisland GFC Guide to Club Transfers. It wil teach you a thing or two  ;)

That guide has a prolougue by the Burren Secretary ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: No1 on February 03, 2009, 10:40:39 AM
QuoteInsert Quote
Quote from: DownFanatic on Today at 12:59:52 AM
The whole area of transfers is a minefield. Your best option is to seek guidance from your County Assistant Secretary. They seem to have an uncanny knack of the ins and outs of club transfers.
My understanding is that if the club that you want to transfer to is in the same Parish as the club that you want to leave, then you are 100% within your rights to do so.

For all other ways to procure the transfer of a player, refer to the Loughinisland GFC Guide to Club Transfers. It wil teach you a thing or two 


That guide has a prolougue by the Burren Secretary

I believe Castlewellan were responsible for the original draft.   ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on February 03, 2009, 11:40:29 AM
Quote from: Sidelined on February 02, 2009, 11:58:49 PM
2009 Club Managers - Fill in the Blanks accordingly.

ACL – Division One
Carrickcruppen Jim Loughran
Clan na Gael  - Gerard Skelton & Enda Brady
Crossmaglen - Donal Murtagh
Culloville -Malachy Watters
Dromintee - Colin Kelly
Killeavey David Reilly
Mullaghbawn Joe McAnulty
Pearse Og - Brendan Hughes.
St Patrick's - Joe Mallon & Paul Rouse.
Sarsfields

ACL – Division Two
Ballyhegan
Ballymacnab - Jerome Johnston
Clann Eireann
Granemore - John Toner
Harps - Nudie Hughes
Madden
Maghery
St Michael's Kelly O'Rourke
Silverbridge - Bernard Connolly & Kevin Byrne
Tir na nÓg - Aiden Farrell
Whitecross - Killian Finnegan
Wolfe Tone - Michael Magill

ACL – Division Three
Annaghmore - Aiden McGahan
An Port Mor
Belleek Martin Smyth
Clonmore
Collegeland - Niall Gorman
Keady - John Toal
Lissummon Robert Wilson
Middletown
St Paul's
St Peter's
Shane O'Neill's Davey O'Brien
Tullysaran - Audi Hamiliton

ACL – Division Four
Clady
Corrinshego Ronan McAlinden
Crossmaglen II
Derrynoose
Dorsey Emmett's Barry Loughran
Eire Og
Forkhill Thomas McDonnell
Grange -Colm Toal, Tam Gribben & James O'Hagan
Mullaghbrack
O'Hanlon's Ronan Maginnis
Phelim Brady's
Killean- Hugh Morgan?

This is what I picked out of last weeks Newry Democrat - they did a round up of managers in S Armagh and S Down
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on February 03, 2009, 01:57:19 PM
talking of transfers etc.
Is there anything to be said to the rumour that hughie morgans giving £200 a week to useful footballers coming to play for him up at killean.
heard that muttered in a pub in belfast last night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 03, 2009, 02:06:48 PM
I would say that is rubbish talk!!!! I don' think he would churn out almost £3,000 a week for that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on February 03, 2009, 02:20:08 PM
i know i took it with a pinch of salt, was wondering though would there be any "better" footballers coming to play for him or talented footballers who might be hard up students getting helped out in this way. hed hardly fork that out for a whole team. 
who has he got playing for him up there anyway,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on February 03, 2009, 06:46:55 PM
2009 Club Managers - Fill in the Blanks accordingly.

ACL – Division One
Carrickcruppen Jim Loughran
Clan na Gael  - Gerard Skelton & Enda Brady
Crossmaglen - Donal Murtagh
Culloville -Malachy Watters
Dromintee - Colin Kelly
Killeavey David Reilly
Mullaghbawn - Joe McNulty
Pearse Og - Brendan Hughes.
St Patrick's - Joe Mallon & Paul Rouse.
Sarsfields - Kieran McGurk

ACL – Division Two
Ballyhegan - Jim McAlinden
Ballymacnab - Jerome Johnston
Clann Eireann
Granemore - John Toner
Harps - Nudie Hughes
Madden
Maghery - Jimbo Robinson
St Michael's Kelly O'Rourke
Silverbridge - Bernard Connolly & Kevin Byrne
Tir na nÓg - Aiden Farrell
Whitecross - Killian Finnegan
Wolfe Tone - Michael Magill

ACL – Division Three
Annaghmore - Aiden McGahan
An Port Mor - Peter Bayne
Belleek Martin Smyth
Clonmore
Collegeland - Niall Gorman
Keady - John Toal
Lissummon Robert Wilson
Middletown
St Paul's
St Peter's
Shane O'Neill's Davey O'Brien
Tullysaran - Audi Hamiliton

ACL – Division Four
Clady
Corrinshego Ronan McAlinden
Crossmaglen II
Derrynoose
Dorsey Emmett's Barry Loughran
Eire Og
Forkhill - Fintan Burns/Thomas McDonnell
Grange -Colm Toal, Tam Gribben & James O'Hagan
Mullaghbrack
O'Hanlon's Ronan Maginnis
Phelim Brady's
Killean- Hugh Morgan?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on February 03, 2009, 09:10:23 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 02, 2009, 09:26:55 PM
did he banjo his shoulder in that game???
[/quote

I think it may have been a broken collarbone, not too sure. Actually haven't been round much, so haven't been keeping up to date on the situation. Looked pretty nasty at the time though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on February 06, 2009, 05:09:15 PM
2009 Club Managers - Fill in the Blanks accordingly.

ACL – Division One
Carrickcruppen Jim Loughran
Clan na Gael  - Gerard Skelton & Enda Brady
Crossmaglen - Donal Murtagh
Culloville -Malachy Watters
Dromintee - Colin Kelly
Killeavey David Reilly
Mullaghbawn - Joe McNulty
Pearse Og - Brendan Hughes.
St Patrick's - Joe Mallon & Paul Rouse.
Sarsfields - Kieran McGurk

ACL – Division Two
Ballyhegan - Jim McAlinden
Ballymacnab - Jerome Johnston
Clann Eireann
Granemore - John Toner
Harps - Nudie Hughes
Madden- John Carson
Maghery - Jimbo Robinson
St Michael's Kelly O'Rourke
Silverbridge - Bernard Connolly & Kevin Byrne
Tir na nÓg - Aiden Farrell
Whitecross - Killian Finnegan
Wolfe Tone - Michael Magill

ACL – Division Three
Annaghmore - Aiden McGahan
An Port Mor - Peter Bayne
Belleek Martin Smyth
Clonmore
Collegeland - Niall Gorman
Keady - John Toal
Lissummon Robert Wilson
Middletown
St Paul's
St Peter's
Shane O'Neill's Davey O'Brien
Tullysaran - Audi Hamiliton

ACL – Division Four
Clady
Corrinshego Ronan McAlinden
Crossmaglen II
Derrynoose
Dorsey Emmett's Barry Loughran
Eire Og
Forkhill - Fintan Burns/Thomas McDonnell
Grange -Colm Toal, Tam Gribben & James O'Hagan
Mullaghbrack
O'Hanlon's Ronan Maginnis
Phelim Brady's
Killean- Hugh Morgan?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on February 06, 2009, 05:35:26 PM
The St Michaels Killean manager is some guy from Killeavy who gave up football a few years ago after a health scare?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: killeavygael on February 07, 2009, 06:52:13 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 06, 2009, 05:35:26 PM
The St Michaels Killean manager is some guy from Killeavy who gave up football a few years ago after a health scare?
the manager is a old underage manager
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on February 07, 2009, 08:49:49 PM
Quote from: killeavygael on February 07, 2009, 06:52:13 PM
Quote from: Orior on February 06, 2009, 05:35:26 PM
The St Michaels Killean manager is some guy from Killeavy who gave up football a few years ago after a health scare?
the manager is a old underage manager

Is it a secret or is my dyslexia playing up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: killeavygael on February 08, 2009, 03:40:42 PM
saemus faloon
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on February 08, 2009, 03:46:13 PM
Quote from: killeavygael on February 08, 2009, 03:40:42 PM
saemus faloon

Sweet Jesus!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on February 08, 2009, 06:31:36 PM
Is seamus giving up the refereein den?? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: killeavygael on February 08, 2009, 08:40:48 PM
im not sure what he doin just heard he takin them :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on February 10, 2009, 03:31:17 PM
Quote from: killeavygael on February 08, 2009, 03:40:42 PM
saemus faloon

Dear God. it'll be quare craic if nothin else
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: killeavygael on February 10, 2009, 05:31:25 PM
hey did anybody hear if the armagh hurling league was getting put into3leagues this year??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on February 10, 2009, 09:30:58 PM
Can't remember how the debate ended that time about teams training in the Athletic Grounds, just wondered, did the county board say at the time that no teams what so ever where allowed to train there? Seen a team down there tonight training and I know that there is every possibilty that it's the Armagh team what with their match there on Saturday night. I couldn't tell who it was cause I was driving over the ring road but even if it is I just think Crossmaglen maybe should have been afforded the same luxury as they where representing Armagh. Does anyone remember how that ended and did the County Board state that the feild was not to be used for training?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bud on February 11, 2009, 09:19:46 AM
Kileavygael...heard last night that use have a new addition to the panel, a county player from further down the country, person saying couldn't mind his name, any truth or names?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 11, 2009, 11:19:05 AM
Quote from: bud on February 11, 2009, 09:19:46 AM
Kileavygael...heard last night that use have a new addition to the panel, a county player from further down the country, person saying couldn't mind his name, any truth or names?

Really? There has been two rumours of other county players joining with every club in south Armagh over recent months. One is a a Mayo man and one is a Tyrone man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 11, 2009, 12:34:01 PM
Has Declan Browne's transfer to Cross been ratified???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on February 11, 2009, 12:42:59 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 10, 2009, 09:30:58 PM
Can't remember how the debate ended that time about teams training in the Athletic Grounds, just wondered, did the county board say at the time that no teams what so ever where allowed to train there? Seen a team down there tonight training and I know that there is every possibilty that it's the Armagh team what with their match there on Saturday night. I couldn't tell who it was cause I was driving over the ring road but even if it is I just think Crossmaglen maybe should have been afforded the same luxury as they where representing Armagh. Does anyone remember how that ended and did the County Board state that the feild was not to be used for training?

I think the cuchulainns have the pitch some nights during the week when its not being used by anybody else. No training is allowed on the pitch but coaching sessions are allowed (i don't know the difference).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on February 11, 2009, 12:56:55 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 11, 2009, 12:34:01 PM
Has Declan Browne's transfer to Cross been ratified???

ah now don't be jokin bc - we'd believe anything with regards to transfers to cross
Title: Sean Doran Memorial Cup - Friday 6th March in Abbey Park
Post by: Abble on February 11, 2009, 12:59:41 PM
(//)

Pictured at the launch of the Sean Doran Memorial Cup . From left to right, Harps manager Nudie Hughes, Harps Chairman John McConville, Colum Doran, Keady Manager John Toal, Keady Chairman Willie Monaghan. Seated are Sean's wife Ann Marie & son Cathal. 

Although primarily known for his exploits in boxing Sean Doran played with distinction for both Armagh Harps and Keady Dwyers.  To honour his memory Harps will play Keady in Abbey Park Armagh on Friday 6th March at 7.30pm with all proceeds going to Marie Curie Cancer Care.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 11, 2009, 06:42:14 PM
Anyone know where i could find the draw for the McHiggins cup (not sure if thats the right name).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on February 11, 2009, 09:26:48 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on February 11, 2009, 06:42:14 PM
Anyone know where i could find the draw for the McHiggins cup (not sure if thats the right name).

It's the Mick Higgins Cup :D, haven't heard the draw yet though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on February 11, 2009, 09:32:27 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on February 11, 2009, 12:42:59 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 10, 2009, 09:30:58 PM
Can't remember how the debate ended that time about teams training in the Athletic Grounds, just wondered, did the county board say at the time that no teams what so ever where allowed to train there? Seen a team down there tonight training and I know that there is every possibilty that it's the Armagh team what with their match there on Saturday night. I couldn't tell who it was cause I was driving over the ring road but even if it is I just think Crossmaglen maybe should have been afforded the same luxury as they where representing Armagh. Does anyone remember how that ended and did the County Board state that the feild was not to be used for training?

I think the cuchulainns have the pitch some nights during the week when its not being used by anybody else. No training is allowed on the pitch but coaching sessions are allowed (i don't know the difference).

Yeah I know they have the pitch but I thought that that was just for games. Also I didn't notice any hurls when I went past. I just think that this reflects badly on us if at one moment we wouldn't allow our county champions to use it just so they could get used to the lights. Then at other times I have seen a few teams out on it. How would they tell the difference between coaching and training sessions? Will someone from the county board be keeping an eye on proceedings and call it to a halt if there is so much as a sprint being done  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on February 11, 2009, 10:45:35 PM

training matches can be played there is my understanding
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on February 12, 2009, 11:54:22 AM
Re Declan Browne

Yeah. I hear he will be playing with the division 4 team. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yesmangaa on February 14, 2009, 08:54:50 AM
i hear the bridge prodical son is back can anyone confirm that maybe two two charlie would know
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 14, 2009, 09:28:02 AM
Quote from: yesmangaa on February 14, 2009, 08:54:50 AM
i hear the bridge prodical son is back can anyone confirm that maybe two two charlie would know
Yes Ciaran conlon is back training with the 'bridge.

Good of you to join up to ask that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on February 14, 2009, 11:22:45 AM
thats probably one of your alternative poster names pints

having a wee chat with yourself on a quiet saturday morning  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 14, 2009, 11:30:42 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on February 14, 2009, 11:22:45 AM
thats probably one of your alternative poster names pints

having a wee chat with yourself on a quiet saturday morning  ;D
If I'd another username I'd be causing havoc! not talking to myself on this thread.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on February 14, 2009, 06:01:14 PM
Quote from: yesmangaa on February 14, 2009, 08:54:50 AM
i hear the bridge prodical son is back can anyone confirm that maybe two two charlie would know
good the see..heard he`s goin well in trainin well worth 5r6points a game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on February 15, 2009, 02:26:05 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 14, 2009, 11:30:42 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on February 14, 2009, 11:22:45 AM
thats probably one of your alternative poster names pints

having a wee chat with yourself on a quiet saturday morning  ;D
If I'd another username I'd be causing havoc! not talking to myself on this thread.

true!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on February 15, 2009, 04:14:20 PM
Harps beat Madden by a point in the Mid Board Cup.  Dont know how strong Madden were but we were missing quite a few.  It was the first game of the year and it looked like it too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 17, 2009, 03:56:44 PM
Yous are all wild craic hi...

FFS has no-one anything to say...Well i'll start it.

I would to take this opportunity to wish Crossmaglen the best of luck (like you hoors need luck) for sat's match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 17, 2009, 04:56:18 PM
Thanks illdecide, at least I know you mean it,( :P)

I don't think luck will be a factor, more like sensible football.  It gives it dry and clear for the week so it should be a good day for football.  Can't make it, is it on 5FM?  Damian will have to do for me!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on February 17, 2009, 04:59:26 PM
It's on TG4 bcb1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 17, 2009, 06:05:22 PM
it's deferred coverage, the other game is the live one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on February 17, 2009, 08:09:37 PM
Quoteit's deferred coverage, the other game is the live one.

Turn off the radio, turn off the phone, they'll hardly be celebrating in the streets in Cork!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 18, 2009, 10:15:04 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 17, 2009, 04:56:18 PM
Thanks illdecide, at least I know you mean it,( :P)

I don't think luck will be a factor, more like sensible football.  It gives it dry and clear for the week so it should be a good day for football.  Can't make it, is it on 5FM?  Damian will have to do for me!

Well i really do mean it, don't get me wrong i hope Cross get beat in the Armagh championship so to give the rest of us a chance but once an Armagh team is at Ulster and All Ireland duties representing Armagh then they have my support...(with a tint of jealousy may i add)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on February 18, 2009, 12:25:34 PM
no knife twisting at bowl for coming back pints bit surprised to be honest.

you were quick to slander him in his departure. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 18, 2009, 06:41:48 PM
Quote from: the scenic route on February 18, 2009, 12:25:34 PM
no knife twisting at bowl for coming back pints bit surprised to be honest.

you were quick to slander him in his departure. 
That's a lie.

What did I ever say about him that you've got an issue with?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on February 18, 2009, 06:52:19 PM
Did he come back???? When?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 18, 2009, 06:53:56 PM
Yes he's back training, a few weeks ago, when the new managers were announced. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 19, 2009, 12:18:21 AM
Did this guy not play football in Louth???? If so how is he getting these transfers to and fro clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 19, 2009, 07:33:12 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 19, 2009, 12:18:21 AM
Did this guy not play football in Louth???? If so how is he getting these transfers to and fro clubs.
Yes and I dont know though we didn't object to the transfer so I suppsoe that helped him out. 
i wouldnt know the ins and outs of transferring.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yesmangaa on February 19, 2009, 08:14:41 AM
yes the incredible sulk is back (aka anelka) get rid of two good men to let a judas back in if he does it once he'll do it again
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on February 19, 2009, 08:20:53 AM
Quote from: yesmangaa on February 19, 2009, 08:14:41 AM
yes the incredible sulk is back (aka anelka) get rid of two good men to let a judas back in if he does it once he'll do it again

Doubt if that is the reason the management was changed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on February 19, 2009, 09:23:03 AM
I think the management was changed because of results. Getting C C back is just a bonus. You'll just have to suck on it Yesman.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 19, 2009, 09:25:25 AM
This Conlon fella must be some player!

Did he play versus Glenavy last week end?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 19, 2009, 09:44:33 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on February 19, 2009, 09:25:25 AM
This Conlon fella must be some player!

Did he play versus Glenavy last week end?

If he's that good why is he not on the county panel...sounds like a guy who is half decent but thinks he's much better than he really is and the guys around him are poor so it makes him stand out a bit from the rest ???

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 19, 2009, 10:10:24 AM
Sure in that documentary that was made about Silverbridge( very good i may add) he was made out to be the next white hope. But 10,000 pages later and we all know what happened. It just atonises me how he was able to get transfer afer transfer from county to county. But like yourself pints i wouldn't be up to verse on transfer ins and outs (pardon the pun)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 19, 2009, 10:16:39 AM
A decent footballer, would make most senior teams, but is not the superstar that many see him to be.  Poor Bowl is afflicted with the paternal problem of unfulfilled dreams!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on February 19, 2009, 11:09:34 AM
Just give him a chance this season to show what a kind of footballer he is, and if he isn't a superstar he wouldn't be the only young player to be given that reputation and fail to make it.

Is granemore playing the nab this weekend???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on February 19, 2009, 11:10:32 AM

what age is conlon?

Was that his da on that documentary?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on February 19, 2009, 11:11:45 AM
 Mid-board Cup Semi - Harps v Ballyhegan is in Sherry's Field Sunday 12.30pm.  

Nippy broke a bone in his elbow in last week's game v MAdden, out for a while.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on February 19, 2009, 12:13:59 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on February 19, 2009, 11:09:34 AM
Just give him a chance this season to show what a kind of footballer he is, and if he isn't a superstar he wouldn't be the only young player to be given that reputation and fail to make it.

Is granemore playing the nab this weekend???

i think granemore have agreed to play it midweek to suit the nabs ulster commitments. how neighbourly!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 19, 2009, 01:27:43 PM
twotwo, management had to be changed because last year's management wouldnt take it again, well you know that too!
he must be 22 or 23 now? and yes that was his da on the documentary, with the cursing.   
hes a very talented player though probably a little small for county, talent alone doesnt make you a superstar though, you have to have the right attitude to go with it. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on February 19, 2009, 02:39:40 PM

If that was his da - and i think he was coaching him at the time - then its not hard to se why there'd be a bit lacking
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on February 19, 2009, 06:33:46 PM
yea he 22.  he got a brave injury when was about 17/18 who knows how much that held him back??no one thing he would start for the clans anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 19, 2009, 06:41:46 PM
Quote from: The GAA on February 19, 2009, 02:39:40 PM

If that was his da - and i think he was coaching him at the time - then its not hard to se why there'd be a bit lacking
His da wasn't coaching him at the time, fergal reel (if memory serves) was coaching him in the minors at the time, they went to the final and Ciaran missed it due to his injury.  Fergal Reel is the same man he wouldnt play for for the last two years. 

Ciaran's da, Pat, was coaching the under 16s during the documentary and became famous for all the cursing, roaring and shouting.  :D (didnt see much wrong with it really myself but there was talk about it at the time - from outside the club)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on February 19, 2009, 07:54:36 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 19, 2009, 06:41:46 PM
Quote from: The GAA on February 19, 2009, 02:39:40 PM

If that was his da - and i think he was coaching him at the time - then its not hard to se why there'd be a bit lacking
His da wasn't coaching him at the time, fergal reel (if memory serves) was coaching him in the minors at the time, they went to the final and Ciaran missed it due to his injury.  Fergal Reel is the same man he wouldnt play for for the last two years. 

Ciaran's da, Pat, was coaching the under 16s during the documentary and became famous for all the cursing, roaring and shouting.  :D (didnt see much wrong with it really myself but there was talk about it at the time - from outside the club)

Pints condones child abuse...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 19, 2009, 07:58:35 PM
Now dont be silly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on February 19, 2009, 08:02:33 PM
A grown man swearing aggressively at children, for who he has a duty of care towards, is child abuse and you think theres nothing wrong with it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 19, 2009, 08:17:05 PM
Quote from: doire na raithe on February 19, 2009, 08:02:33 PM
A grown man swearing aggressively at children, for who he has a duty of care towards, is child abuse and you think theres nothing wrong with it.
If that was the case I'd agree with you but he wasn't swearing at them, he'd get carried away and start swearing and yes he could have left it out but it wasn't the lads he was verbally abusing, he wasnt bullying or picking on individuals or anything like that. From what I remember they thought a lot of him. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: doire na raithe on February 19, 2009, 08:23:21 PM
Ok, glad we clarified that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 19, 2009, 08:56:36 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on February 19, 2009, 06:33:46 PM
yea he 22.  he got a brave injury when was about 17/18 who knows how much that held him back??no one thing he would start for the clans anyway

Oh Charlie you do try your best to get a rise from people don't you. Though i am struggling to find how the clans have came into this argument.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on February 20, 2009, 08:17:27 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 19, 2009, 10:10:24 AM
Sure in that documentary that was made about Silverbridge( very good i may add) he was made out to be the next white hope. But 10,000 pages later and we all know what happened. It just atonises me how he was able to get transfer afer transfer from county to county. But like yourself pints i wouldn't be up to verse on transfer ins and outs (pardon the pun)

yourself and ill decide ridiculing the lad when you a)dont know the ins and outs of his transfers and b) probably havent saw him play 5 games between prob shouldnt have related that directly at the clans but he would start for probably any teamin armagh baring cross.  on that note good luck to the rangers 2mara.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on February 21, 2009, 10:36:48 AM
lads can anyone confirm if the down u21 and armagh under 21 game still taking place at 2.00 pm today?cheers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on February 21, 2009, 04:56:33 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on February 21, 2009, 10:36:48 AM
lads can anyone confirm if the down u21 and armagh under 21 game still taking place at 2.00 pm today?cheers

eh armagh beat them by 13pts i think!!

great win for cross.....another all ireland coming up to armagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on February 21, 2009, 05:23:35 PM
just back from the u21 game a very good win for the lads thought down wud be 2 strong final score 2-15 to 8 points.  stefan forker who had already scored 4 points was given a straight red after a tussle with his man who also got the line.  ended up in a melee few other players on both sides can count themselves not to go.  was very disappointed with down,they where missing mcomiskey,oreilly and murney and michael magee went off early on but far that where at full strength. 

for armagh thought the defence was very good wasnt sure of many of the lads names no.7 was very good going forward carrying the ball.  though jj clarke had good game at chf, shane?? in corner forward was good to and forker accurate before went off!!suppose sign of your age when you arent sure of the lads when there is no programme!! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 21, 2009, 06:01:12 PM
It use to always feel good to beat down, now it just makes me feel more sorry for them
I must be getting soft.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lothos on February 21, 2009, 06:35:23 PM
Some craic with Nudie Hughes in Mckennas last Sunday night.   :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on February 21, 2009, 07:22:20 PM
Quote from: Lothos on February 21, 2009, 06:35:23 PM
Some craic with Nudie Hughes in Mckennas last Sunday night.   :D

he was rightly on!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 21, 2009, 07:48:19 PM
Charlie clearly this lad is a pal of yours and your getting uptight about a few comments...all i said was if he was good as everyone is making him out to be then he'd be on the county panel. I prob have played on the same team as him but i can't recall anyone in particular standing out :-\  i don't know the lad at all...All i done was stated a known fact...maybe if he knuckles down this year who knows he could be better than i think and maybe get a call up to the county squad but until he does he's just a good club player.

P.S. shouldn't you be more concerned about your own team than waiting to get a dig in about the Clans... ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 21, 2009, 07:51:34 PM
QuoteI prob have played on the same team as him but i can't recall anyone in particular standing out

The year you went down to division 2 after we beat you in the bridge he scored something crazy against you - 2-4/2-5 maybe, it was his senior debut.  Not remember him?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on February 21, 2009, 08:02:33 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on February 21, 2009, 07:22:20 PM
Quote from: Lothos on February 21, 2009, 06:35:23 PM
Some craic with Nudie Hughes in Mckennas last Sunday night.   :D

he was rightly on!!

LOL!! 

i heard he was getting paid in beer tokens!!! could be a long year  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 21, 2009, 11:46:04 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 21, 2009, 07:51:34 PM
QuoteI prob have played on the same team as him but i can't recall anyone in particular standing out

The year you went down to division 2 after we beat you in the bridge he scored something crazy against you - 2-4/2-5 maybe, it was his senior debut.  Not remember him?

Yes i remember that well pints i was on the line unfortunately and saying that yourself and charlie are just mentioning the clans in all arguments  :-[(you know not trying to get digs but only illustrating a point) :-[ then i would also illustrate the point that after that year of relegation the clans came back up and won the first division and reached a championship final. But that is only me illustrating a point not taking a dig at anyone or trying to be arrogant.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 21, 2009, 11:48:39 PM
I'm not getting a dig in winsam, just saying what he scored that day. 
Dont you start getting paranoid too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lothos on February 22, 2009, 08:01:23 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on February 21, 2009, 08:02:33 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on February 21, 2009, 07:22:20 PM
Quote from: Lothos on February 21, 2009, 06:35:23 PM
Some craic with Nudie Hughes in Mckennas last Sunday night.   :D

he was rightly on!!

LOL!! 

i heard he was getting paid in beer tokens!!! could be a long year  :P

:D Imagine what he'd be like after a league or championship match  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 22, 2009, 11:44:29 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on February 21, 2009, 05:23:35 PM
just back from the u21 game a very good win for the lads thought down wud be 2 strong final score 2-15 to 8 points.  stefan forker who had already scored 4 points was given a straight red after a tussle with his man who also got the line.  ended up in a melee few other players on both sides can count themselves not to go.  was very disappointed with down,they where missing mcomiskey,oreilly and murney and michael magee went off early on but far that where at full strength. 

for armagh thought the defence was very good wasnt sure of many of the lads names no.7 was very good going forward carrying the ball.  though jj clarke had good game at chf, shane?? in corner forward was good to and forker accurate before went off!!suppose sign of your age when you arent sure of the lads when there is no programme!! :D

Shane Carroll by any chance Stubbs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on February 22, 2009, 05:02:47 PM
Harps beat Ballyhegan well in the Mid Board Cup
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 22, 2009, 06:49:05 PM
Fair enough pints
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 23, 2009, 08:01:39 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 22, 2009, 05:02:47 PM
Harps beat Ballyhegan well in the Mid Board Cup

Thanks for the discreetness! On this showing it could be a long year ahead for Ballyhegan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on February 23, 2009, 09:05:14 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on February 23, 2009, 08:01:39 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on February 22, 2009, 05:02:47 PM
Harps beat Ballyhegan well in the Mid Board Cup

Thanks for the discreetness! On this showing it could be a long year ahead for Ballyhegan.

Wouldn't read too much into that, middletown beat ballyhegan in the shield last year and they still went on to get promotion
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 23, 2009, 09:39:53 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 21, 2009, 07:51:34 PM
QuoteI prob have played on the same team as him but i can't recall anyone in particular standing out

The year you went down to division 2 after we beat you in the bridge he scored something crazy against you - 2-4/2-5 maybe, it was his senior debut.  Not remember him?

Well it's a pity he didn't make his debut a few years before that when we beat you by 20pts in silverbridge to relegate yous then maybe he could have done some more of his magic...Sorry just stating a fact not trying to get a dig in...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 23, 2009, 06:27:43 PM
For crying out loud  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on February 23, 2009, 08:52:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 23, 2009, 09:39:53 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 21, 2009, 07:51:34 PM
QuoteI prob have played on the same team as him but i can't recall anyone in particular standing out

The year you went down to division 2 after we beat you in the bridge he scored something crazy against you - 2-4/2-5 maybe, it was his senior debut.  Not remember him?

Well it's a pity he didn't make his debut a few years before that when we beat you by 20pts in silverbridge to relegate yous then maybe he could have done some more of his magic...Sorry just stating a fact not trying to get a dig in...

what age are you?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 24, 2009, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: The GAA on February 23, 2009, 08:52:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 23, 2009, 09:39:53 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 21, 2009, 07:51:34 PM
QuoteI prob have played on the same team as him but i can't recall anyone in particular standing out

The year you went down to division 2 after we beat you in the bridge he scored something crazy against you - 2-4/2-5 maybe, it was his senior debut.  Not remember him?

Well it's a pity he didn't make his debut a few years before that when we beat you by 20pts in silverbridge to relegate yous then maybe he could have done some more of his magic...Sorry just stating a fact not trying to get a dig in...

what age are you?

15 ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 24, 2009, 09:51:59 AM
Quote from: illdecide on February 24, 2009, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: The GAA on February 23, 2009, 08:52:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 23, 2009, 09:39:53 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 21, 2009, 07:51:34 PM
QuoteI prob have played on the same team as him but i can't recall anyone in particular standing out

The year you went down to division 2 after we beat you in the bridge he scored something crazy against you - 2-4/2-5 maybe, it was his senior debut.  Not remember him?

Well it's a pity he didn't make his debut a few years before that when we beat you by 20pts in silverbridge to relegate yous then maybe he could have done some more of his magic...Sorry just stating a fact not trying to get a dig in...

what age are you?

15 ;D

You were asked your age, not your weight ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 24, 2009, 10:17:35 AM
If i was 15 stone i'd be delighted BC...lol

I'm sure you'll get to Croke Pk on Paddy's day!!! Hope to get to it myself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 24, 2009, 10:24:10 AM
Quote from: illdecide on February 24, 2009, 10:17:35 AM
If i was 15 stone i'd be delighted BC...lol

I'm sure you'll get to Croke Pk on Paddy's day!!! Hope to get to it myself

I'll be there with bell's on!!!  I'd say it is about 10 years since I say 15 stone, so I'm not really in a position to slag, I would be happy just to see 16 these days!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 24, 2009, 10:55:36 AM
Are the league fixtures still not out yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 24, 2009, 11:14:58 AM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on February 24, 2009, 10:55:36 AM
Are the league fixtures still not out yet?

they're out but i haven't seen them, one of our club men told me we are home to Cross on the 1st game...From what i can gather they have gave the first 4 fixtures like last year...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on February 24, 2009, 11:18:49 AM
is there a webiste where i could find them?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 24, 2009, 12:38:41 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on February 24, 2009, 11:18:49 AM
is there a webiste where i could find them?

Orchard County are usually on the ball but i checked their site and couldn't find anything...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 24, 2009, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 24, 2009, 10:24:10 AM
Quote from: illdecide on February 24, 2009, 10:17:35 AM
If i was 15 stone i'd be delighted BC...lol

I'm sure you'll get to Croke Pk on Paddy's day!!! Hope to get to it myself

I'll be there with bell's on!!!  I'd say it is about 10 years since I say 15 stone, so I'm not really in a position to slag, I would be happy just to see 16 these days!

:D :D :D I know the feeling big lad...i was 16.5 stone there at christmas but i'm down to 15.10 but i still need to get another stone of (right full back i'm waiting on the smart remarks)

It should be a good final but i expect Cross to win with 3-4pts to spare...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on February 24, 2009, 01:07:27 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 24, 2009, 12:42:06 PM

:D :D :D I know the feeling big lad...i was 16.5 stone there at christmas but i'm down to 15.10 but i still need to get another stone of (right full back i'm waiting on the smart remarks)


I wish you well in your quest to shift a few pounds illdecide  ;)
Going off giving you sh1t for Lent & am getting in a bit of practice
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on February 24, 2009, 01:10:39 PM
When do the fixtures usually be released? i tried the official websie as well and no sign there either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on February 25, 2009, 03:47:34 PM
Armagh have confirmed that Michael Johnson has been dismissed as manager of the Orchard County senior hurling team.

The St John's, Belfast clubman was hit with a 48-week touchline ban earlier this week for verbally abusing an official during a club game, and it was originally mis-reported that he would be staying on at the Orchard helm.

County secretary Paddy Nugent has clarified that hurling board chairman Paul Kelly will stay on as acting manager, with John Crossley as trainer.

Nugent also rejected Tuesday's media reports that Armagh knew their new manager was facing a ban, insisting: "As soon as we heard of this suspension, we told him that he would no longer be involved."



Bad news after the progress of the Lennon reign.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on February 25, 2009, 04:07:02 PM

Not much choice for the county board over Johnson to be fair.

where we go now is anyone's guess
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on February 25, 2009, 04:08:25 PM
Quote from: The GAA on February 25, 2009, 04:07:02 PM

Not much choice for the county board over Johnson to be fair.

where we go now is anyone's guess


Gerald Mc Carthy ?? Would you accept him ?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on February 25, 2009, 04:49:49 PM
Quote from: The GAA on February 25, 2009, 04:07:02 PM

Not much choice for the county board over Johnson to be fair.

where we go now is anyone's guess

ALthough his background is football, Kelly should do for the short-term... Gets things done.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on February 25, 2009, 04:57:50 PM

Kelly's not an option unless its in an overseeing capacity - which he was in already. He doesn't know hurling and we need someone capable of organising quality training sessions, structuring a team and coaching the players
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on February 25, 2009, 05:00:14 PM
Quote from: The GAA on February 25, 2009, 04:57:50 PM

Kelly's not an option unless its in an overseeing capacity - which he was in already. He doesn't know hurling and we need someone capable of organising quality training sessions, structuring a team and coaching the players


You've been spending too much time in Cork Sean. Where did I hear that last ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on February 25, 2009, 05:01:20 PM

And where do you find fault with my assessment of what the armagh senior hurling team needs dougal?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on February 25, 2009, 05:03:22 PM
Quote from: The GAA on February 25, 2009, 05:01:20 PM

And where do you find fault with my assessment of what the armagh senior hurling team needs dougal?


It just sounded very like the gospel according to Sean ( John ) - no surprise there with you being so starry eyed about the landscape there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on February 25, 2009, 05:08:21 PM

Go away you gobshite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on February 25, 2009, 05:11:11 PM
Quote from: The GAA on February 25, 2009, 05:08:21 PM

Go away you gobshite


Now now - enough of the insults - if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.


You should take a wee rest.


You could always go on strike.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on February 25, 2009, 05:14:45 PM

Thats always my reaction when morons who know nothing about the subject matter try to link to another thread, about which they know nothing either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on February 25, 2009, 05:17:32 PM
I must go and see Sean - spend 2 hours with him and you seem to know everything. Hope it works. Hope I don't get all starry eyed at the end of it. I hate that starry eyes bit. It's so childish.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on February 25, 2009, 05:22:20 PM

don't come back on this thread til you can name the starting midfield pairing for armagh against roscomman in croke park 2 yeaars ago
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on February 25, 2009, 05:24:32 PM
Quote from: The GAA on February 25, 2009, 05:22:20 PM

don't come back on this thread til you can name the starting midfield pairing for armagh against roscomman in croke park 2 yeaars ago


I was at the match alright - but you've got me there - can't name them. Sorry. Does that entitle me to come back on ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on February 25, 2009, 05:26:55 PM

No that's it - good luck.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on February 25, 2009, 05:27:06 PM
It was a clinker of a game and Armagh were very unlucky not to get a result. I was very impressed with some of your lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 25, 2009, 07:02:19 PM
Quote from: corn02 on February 25, 2009, 03:47:34 PM
Armagh have confirmed that Michael Johnson has been dismissed as manager of the Orchard County senior hurling team.

The St John's, Belfast clubman was hit with a 48-week touchline ban earlier this week for verbally abusing an official during a club game, and it was originally mis-reported that he would be staying on at the Orchard helm.

County secretary Paddy Nugent has clarified that hurling board chairman Paul Kelly will stay on as acting manager, with John Crossley as trainer.

Nugent also rejected Tuesday's media reports that Armagh knew their new manager was facing a ban, insisting: "As soon as we heard of this suspension, we told him that he would no longer be involved."



Bad news after the progress of the Lennon reign.
What did he say to get 48 weeks?!  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on February 25, 2009, 07:53:03 PM
Is this the same incident that was discussed on the Antrim thread, where they tried to con the officials by sending a different guy to the suspension hearing or something?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on February 25, 2009, 09:56:34 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 25, 2009, 07:02:19 PM
Quote from: corn02 on February 25, 2009, 03:47:34 PM
Armagh have confirmed that Michael Johnson has been dismissed as manager of the Orchard County senior hurling team.

The St John's, Belfast clubman was hit with a 48-week touchline ban earlier this week for verbally abusing an official during a club game, and it was originally mis-reported that he would be staying on at the Orchard helm.

County secretary Paddy Nugent has clarified that hurling board chairman Paul Kelly will stay on as acting manager, with John Crossley as trainer.

Nugent also rejected Tuesday's media reports that Armagh knew their new manager was facing a ban, insisting: "As soon as we heard of this suspension, we told him that he would no longer be involved."



Bad news after the progress of the Lennon reign.
What did he say to get 48 weeks?!  ???

"spa says what"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on February 26, 2009, 04:57:34 AM
Quote from: illdecide on February 24, 2009, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 24, 2009, 10:24:10 AM
Quote from: illdecide on February 24, 2009, 10:17:35 AM
If i was 15 stone i'd be delighted BC...lol

I'm sure you'll get to Croke Pk on Paddy's day!!! Hope to get to it myself

I'll be there with bell's on!!!  I'd say it is about 10 years since I say 15 stone, so I'm not really in a position to slag, I would be happy just to see 16 these days!

:D :D :D I know the feeling big lad...i was 16.5 stone there at christmas but i'm down to 15.10 but i still need to get another stone of (right full back i'm waiting on the smart remarks)

It should be a good final but i expect Cross to win with 3-4pts to spare...

Illdecide,

same as yourself, and making a comeback to local football so could be a big match up in the corner
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 26, 2009, 07:48:50 AM
Quote from: The GAA on February 25, 2009, 04:57:50 PM

Kelly's not an option unless its in an overseeing capacity - which he was in already. He doesn't know hurling and we need someone capable of organising quality training sessions, structuring a team and coaching the players
I thought that was Crossey's job?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on February 26, 2009, 09:09:15 AM
You would think that is Crossey's job as there are very few in Armagh know one end of a stick from the other.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 26, 2009, 09:19:59 AM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 26, 2009, 09:09:15 AM
You would think that is Crossey's job as there are very few in Armagh know one end of a stick from the other.

Bit harsh there... There's a lot of good work going on. The amount of lads you now see walking about with hurling sticks is unreal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on February 26, 2009, 11:01:19 AM
Paul kelly is the new manager and John Crossey is the trainer.

where granemore playing last night???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on February 26, 2009, 01:16:29 PM
report from another board...

went down to granemore ballymacnab match. pretty dull affair for a dearby game. thought the ref was bad (both ways) and the game never really came to life even though it was tight it wasn't exciting. mccones frees for ballymacnab won it for them in the end. i suppose both teams have new managers and still getting to know players etc. although ballymacnab had the slight advantage of playing a couple of games in the mid ulster league they looked just that little bit sharper. Ballymacnab 1.08 1.07 Granemore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sameoldstorey on February 26, 2009, 10:48:36 PM
what did the armagh cb do on rogan
thought he had done wonders to the hurling in armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on February 27, 2009, 08:18:50 AM
Most clubs know their first 3 fixtures at this stage
Are they online anywhere?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 27, 2009, 09:59:23 AM


Bit harsh there... There's a lot of good work going on. The amount of lads you now see walking about with hurling sticks is unreal.
[/quote]

yeah i did hear that the amount of punishment beating were on the rise again  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 27, 2009, 10:05:33 AM
Could do with it round Lurgan!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on February 27, 2009, 10:12:31 AM
2009 Armagh League

    Division 1
Round 1 Sunday 19th April
Clan na Gael v Carrickcruppin
Crossmaglen v St.Patricks
Cullaville v Pearse Og
Dromintee v Mullabawn
Killeavy v Sarsfields

Round 2 Sunday 26th April
Sarsfields v Clan na Gael
Carrickcruppin v Crossmaglen
St.Patricks v Cullaville
Pearse Og v Dromintee
Mullabawn v Killeavy

Round 3 Sunday 3rd May
Crossmaglen v Clan na Gael
Cullaville v Carrickcruppin
Dromintee v St.Patricks
Killeavy v Pearse Og
Mullabawn v Sarsfields

Round 4 Friday 8th May
Carrickcruppin v Dromintee
Clan na Gael v Cullaville
Sarsfields v Crossmaglen
St.Patricks v Killeavy
Pearse Og v Mullabawn

Round 3 may not take place at 2.00pm on Sunday 3rd May on foot of request from Pearse Og re official opening of their field/complex on that date.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 27, 2009, 01:15:29 PM
More importantly...  ;) Here's Div II

QuoteDivision II
Sunday 19th April (2.00)
Ballyhegan v Clann Eireann
Tir na nÓg v Armagh Harps
St.Michael's v Maghery
Madden v Silverbridge
Granemore v Whitecross
Wolfe Tone v Ballymacnab

Sunday 26th April (2.00)
Clann Eireann v Wolfe Tone
Armagh Harps v Ballyhegan
Maghery v Tir na nÓg
Silverbridge v St.Michael's
Whitecross v Madden
Ballymacnab v Granemore

Sunday 3rd May(12.00/7.00)
Clann Eireann v Armagh Harps
Ballyhegan v Maghery
Tir na nÓg v Silverbridge
St.Michael's v Whitecross
Madden v Ballymacnab
Wolfe Tone v Granemore

Friday 8th May (7.00)
Armagh Harps v Wolfe Tone
Maghery v Clann Eireann
Silverbridge v Ballyhegan
Whitecross v Tir na nÓg
Ballymacnab v St.Michael's
Granemore v Madden

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on February 27, 2009, 01:18:31 PM

Div 3 anyone?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on February 27, 2009, 01:43:57 PM
just back in from lunch there and see there is a write up about the return of Kieran Hughes to the Ogs team this season. well if Donaldson can do it!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 27, 2009, 02:02:26 PM
Yes but this time Hughes will be even more over weight than he usually is. As he has taken a year out. Donaldson never really quit playing football (just thinking he never really started either) he specialised in stopping the opposition which he did a grand job. He's a lucky man that i wasn't 6'5 or i would have took hime out by the roots  ;) :D

Anyway good luck to Hughes he was a good old stalwart for Armagh i hope it works out for him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 27, 2009, 03:40:56 PM
Aye but hughes can play football, he can diet to loose weight. There are other guys who are fat and can't play football (Ahmmm).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on February 27, 2009, 07:26:38 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on February 27, 2009, 01:15:29 PM
More importantly...  ;) Here's Div II

QuoteDivision II
Sunday 19th April (2.00)
Ballyhegan v Clann Eireann
Tir na nÓg v Armagh Harps
St.Michael's v Maghery
Madden v Silverbridge
Granemore v Whitecross
Wolfe Tone v Ballymacnab

Sunday 26th April (2.00)
Clann Eireann v Wolfe Tone
Armagh Harps v Ballyhegan
Maghery v Tir na nÓg
Silverbridge v St.Michael's
Whitecross v Madden
Ballymacnab v Granemore

Sunday 3rd May(12.00/7.00)
Clann Eireann v Armagh Harps
Ballyhegan v Maghery
Tir na nÓg v Silverbridge
St.Michael's v Whitecross
Madden v Ballymacnab
Wolfe Tone v Granemore

Friday 8th May (7.00)
Armagh Harps v Wolfe Tone
Maghery v Clann Eireann
Silverbridge v Ballyhegan
Whitecross v Tir na nÓg
Ballymacnab v St.Michael's
Granemore v Madden



some interesting fixtures to begin the league with!portadown a tough start playing the two teams that came down, while maghery have 2 derby v balyhegan and maghery to begin with.  from a tones perpective we will expect to struggle, dissapointed we play clann eireann so early last few years they have got f**k all points in 2nd half of the season and henderson being with the county i expect them to struggle along with madden, ballyhegan(sorry goats ;)) and madden.  dfinately need to improve our home form this year, 3 wins from the first 3 would do well again this year!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on February 27, 2009, 10:23:01 PM
Here's the rest

Division III
Sunday 19th April (2.00)
Annaghmore v Clonmore
St Peter's v Keady
An Port Mor v Middletown
Lissummon v St Paul's
Collegeland v Shane O'Neill's
Tullysaran v Belleek

Sunday 26th April (2.00)
Clonmore v Tullysaran
Keady v Annaghmore
Middletown v St Peter's
St Paul's v An Port Mor
Shane O'Neill's v Lissummon
Belleek v Collegeland

Sunday 3rd May (12.00/7.00)
Clonmore v Keady
Annaghmore v Middletown
St Peter's v St Paul's
An Port Mor v Shane O'Neill's
Lissummon v Belleek
Tullysaran v Collegeland

Friday 8th May (7.00)
Keady v Tullysaran
Middletown v Clonmore
St Paul's v Annaghmore
Shane O'Neill's v St Peter's
Belleek v An Port Mor
Collegeland v Lissummon


Division IV
Sunday 19th April (2.00)
Clady v Corrinshego
Mullaghbrack v Dorsey Emmett's
Grange v Forkhill
Eire Og v Killean
Derrynoose v O'Hanlon's
Phelim Brady's v Crossmaglen II

Sunday 26th April (2.00)
Corrinshego v Phelim Brady's
Dorsey Emmett's v Clady
Forkhill v Mullaghbrack
Killean v Grange
O'Hanlon's v Eire Og
Crossmaglen II v Derrynoose

Sunday 3rd May (12.00/7.00)
Corrinshego v Dorsey Emmett's
Clady v Forkhill
Mullaghbrack v Killean
Grange v O'Hanlon's
Eire Og v Crossmaglen II
Phelim Brady's v Derrynoose

Friday 8th May (7.00)
Dorsey Emmett's v Phelim Brady's
Forkhill v Corrinshego
Killean v Clady
O'Hanlon's v Mullaghbrack
Crossmaglen II v Grange
Derrynoose v Eire Og
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on February 28, 2009, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on February 27, 2009, 07:26:38 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on February 27, 2009, 01:15:29 PM
More importantly...  ;) Here's Div II

QuoteDivision II
Sunday 19th April (2.00)
Ballyhegan v Clann Eireann
Tir na nÓg v Armagh Harps
St.Michael's v Maghery
Madden v Silverbridge
Granemore v Whitecross
Wolfe Tone v Ballymacnab

Sunday 26th April (2.00)
Clann Eireann v Wolfe Tone
Armagh Harps v Ballyhegan
Maghery v Tir na nÓg
Silverbridge v St.Michael's
Whitecross v Madden
Ballymacnab v Granemore

Sunday 3rd May(12.00/7.00)
Clann Eireann v Armagh Harps
Ballyhegan v Maghery
Tir na nÓg v Silverbridge
St.Michael's v Whitecross
Madden v Ballymacnab
Wolfe Tone v Granemore

Friday 8th May (7.00)
Armagh Harps v Wolfe Tone
Maghery v Clann Eireann
Silverbridge v Ballyhegan
Whitecross v Tir na nÓg
Ballymacnab v St.Michael's
Granemore v Madden



some interesting fixtures to begin the league with!portadown a tough start playing the two teams that came down, while maghery have 2 derby v balyhegan and maghery to begin with.  from a tones perpective we will expect to struggle, dissapointed we play clann eireann so early last few years they have got f**k all points in 2nd half of the season and henderson being with the county i expect them to struggle along with madden, ballyhegan(sorry goats ;)) and madden.  dfinately need to improve our home form this year, 3 wins from the first 3 would do well again this year!!

charlie didnt think madden were entering two teams this year!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 02, 2009, 08:10:00 AM
I believe Madden did very well against Moy in a challenge match yesterday. Beaten by a late goal?

3 county men playing for Moy... This Madden team are ever improving!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on March 02, 2009, 10:02:13 AM
Hard enough start for us but we could win all 4 games. Are the minor fixtures out yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 03, 2009, 07:29:22 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on February 28, 2009, 03:49:00 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on February 27, 2009, 07:26:38 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on February 27, 2009, 01:15:29 PM
More importantly...  ;) Here's Div II

QuoteDivision II
Sunday 19th April (2.00)
Ballyhegan v Clann Eireann
Tir na nÓg v Armagh Harps
St.Michael's v Maghery
Madden v Silverbridge
Granemore v Whitecross
Wolfe Tone v Ballymacnab

Sunday 26th April (2.00)
Clann Eireann v Wolfe Tone
Armagh Harps v Ballyhegan
Maghery v Tir na nÓg
Silverbridge v St.Michael's
Whitecross v Madden
Ballymacnab v Granemore

Sunday 3rd May(12.00/7.00)
Clann Eireann v Armagh Harps
Ballyhegan v Maghery
Tir na nÓg v Silverbridge
St.Michael's v Whitecross
Madden v Ballymacnab
Wolfe Tone v Granemore

Friday 8th May (7.00)
Armagh Harps v Wolfe Tone
Maghery v Clann Eireann
Silverbridge v Ballyhegan
Whitecross v Tir na nÓg
Ballymacnab v St.Michael's
Granemore v Madden



some interesting fixtures to begin the league with!portadown a tough start playing the two teams that came down, while maghery have 2 derby v balyhegan and maghery to begin with.  from a tones perpective we will expect to struggle, dissapointed we play clann eireann so early last few years they have got f**k all points in 2nd half of the season and henderson being with the county i expect them to struggle along with madden, ballyhegan(sorry goats ;)) and madden.  dfinately need to improve our home form this year, 3 wins from the first 3 would do well again this year!!
meant clann eireann

charlie didnt think madden were entering two teams this year!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 03, 2009, 08:57:01 PM
You're brilliant at quoting Charlie.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on March 04, 2009, 08:45:32 PM
Was at the Down v Crossmaglen match last night in Newry

Good game of football and a good run out for both teams

Final Score was (Per my reckoning) Down 1-11 Crossmaglen 0-18

Cross were winning 0-12 to 0-01 at Half Time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Johnnie99 on March 04, 2009, 09:08:09 PM
Quote from: Shortso79 on March 04, 2009, 08:45:32 PM
Was at the Down v Crossmaglen match last night in Newry

Good game of football and a good run out for both teams

Final Score was (Per my reckoning) Down 1-11 Crossmaglen 0-18

Cross were winning 0-12 to 0-01 at Half Time


Strong wind?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 04, 2009, 11:38:16 PM
Quote from: Shortso79 on March 04, 2009, 08:45:32 PM
Was at the Down v Crossmaglen match last night in Newry

Good game of football and a good run out for both teams

Final Score was (Per my reckoning) Down 1-11 Crossmaglen 0-18

Cross were winning 0-12 to 0-01 at Half Time

How strong was the Down team?  0-18 against any team is pretty fine scoring, never mind a county team.  Who says we can't score big :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 05, 2009, 09:39:33 AM
I was speaking to one of the Cross players this morning who scored 2 pts, he said Down were at about 50% but even at that it is still a v good result. The problem with these games you don't really know how hard the opposition are trying ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on March 05, 2009, 10:20:34 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 04, 2009, 11:38:16 PM
Quote from: Shortso79 on March 04, 2009, 08:45:32 PM
Was at the Down v Crossmaglen match last night in Newry

Good game of football and a good run out for both teams

Final Score was (Per my reckoning) Down 1-11 Crossmaglen 0-18

Cross were winning 0-12 to 0-01 at Half Time

How strong was the Down team?  0-18 against any team is pretty fine scoring, never mind a county team.  Who says we can't score big :P

Nobody?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on March 05, 2009, 11:36:40 AM
i can't understand why Down would want to play Cross in a friendly when Cross are at there peak. Getting beat by any club team would shatter confidence.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 05, 2009, 11:45:31 AM
Quote from: The GAA on March 05, 2009, 10:20:34 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 04, 2009, 11:38:16 PM
Quote from: Shortso79 on March 04, 2009, 08:45:32 PM
Was at the Down v Crossmaglen match last night in Newry

Good game of football and a good run out for both teams

Final Score was (Per my reckoning) Down 1-11 Crossmaglen 0-18

Cross were winning 0-12 to 0-01 at Half Time

How strong was the Down team?  0-18 against any team is pretty fine scoring, never mind a county team.  Who says we can't score big :P

Nobody?

Plenty of people say we don't run up big scores, it is the common theme in many report.  Not that it matters ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on March 05, 2009, 12:08:22 PM

Never heard it said.

Don't let it take away from building that siege mentality though!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on March 05, 2009, 12:12:01 PM
Your mate Indiana
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on March 05, 2009, 12:17:01 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 05, 2009, 12:12:01 PM
Your mate Indiana

Ah well then. i stand corrected
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 05, 2009, 12:45:01 PM
QuoteMore than any other club in either code, Crossmaglen Rangers know how to win. It's what they do. They don't show off, they don't hammer teams, they don't (usually) run up large totals, they simply go on to the field, do their thing for an hour and walk off anything between one and four points the better team.

This is an extract from an article I read recently in the build up to th AI semi.  It sums up many people's attitude to Cross.  i don't necessarily disagree.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 05, 2009, 01:06:24 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 05, 2009, 12:45:01 PM
QuoteMore than any other club in either code, Crossmaglen Rangers know how to win. It's what they do. They don't show off, they don't hammer teams, they don't (usually) run up large totals, they simply go on to the field, do their thing for an hour and walk off anything between one and four points the better team.

This is an extract from an article I read recently in the build up to th AI semi.  It sums up many people's attitude to Cross.  i don't necessarily disagree.

The "don't show off" thing is stupid, makes it out as that they could win close games by much more if they wanted too. They play to their best for the whole game, so it is off key. That said, I think they almost always hit 14/15 points every match with very few exceptions, which is very good at club level, so it is a misconception.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 05, 2009, 02:33:07 PM
Quote from: corn02 on March 05, 2009, 01:06:24 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 05, 2009, 12:45:01 PM
QuoteMore than any other club in either code, Crossmaglen Rangers know how to win. It's what they do. They don't show off, they don't hammer teams, they don't (usually) run up large totals, they simply go on to the field, do their thing for an hour and walk off anything between one and four points the better team.

This is an extract from an article I read recently in the build up to th AI semi.  It sums up many people's attitude to Cross.  i don't necessarily disagree.

The "don't show off" thing is stupid, makes it out as that they could win close games by much more if they wanted too. They play to their best for the whole game, so it is off key. That said, I think they almost always hit 14/15 points every match with very few exceptions, which is very good at club level, so it is a misconception.

the hoors hammered us :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on March 05, 2009, 03:28:03 PM
Quotethe hoors hammered us

Well judging by the half time score in Newry you were about the same as the Down county team. You "decide" whether that is any consolation or not.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 05, 2009, 05:04:37 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 05, 2009, 03:28:03 PM
Quotethe hoors hammered us

Well judging by the half time score in Newry you were about the same as the Down county team. You "decide" whether that is any consolation or not.

No, none whatsoever... :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on March 06, 2009, 09:28:19 AM
Final reminder for the Sean Doran Memorial Cup game, Harps v Keady tonight in Abbey Park at 7.30pm.  Hot food & Entertainment afterwards in the social club

All proceeds going to Marie Curie Cancer Care.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 06, 2009, 10:03:11 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on March 05, 2009, 11:36:40 AM
i can't understand why Down would want to play Cross in a friendly when Cross are at there peak. Getting beat by any club team would shatter confidence.

I don't think they intended to get beat Nutsy. Plus that can swing the other way if the Down county panel at 50% were seen to be beating cross as you say at their peak it would be a good morale boaster. I think this thing of confidence is played on too much in football. It is different if a team is getting hammered week in week out by 10 to 15 points. But if a team is loosing out narrowly to good quality opposition it should spare them on to greater things, to go that further bit. I would say they Down squad like Cross have only used this as a run out exercise tried a few fringe players and men in different positions so i couldn't see it damaging any All Ireland aspiration Down would have had.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on March 07, 2009, 03:30:48 PM
Keady beat the Harps by a pont last night in Sean Doran Charity match. wasn't a great game but keady deserved to win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 07, 2009, 03:37:44 PM
tones minors beating silverbridge by 2 lnight row broke out parents/spectators jumped on and hit tones players.. whats that about cullyhanna pints...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 07, 2009, 04:27:54 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on March 07, 2009, 03:37:44 PM
tones minors beating silverbridge by 2 lnight row broke out parents/spectators jumped on and hit tones players.. whats that about cullyhanna pints...
First I heard of it, I get the impression you're not telling the whole story?
Nevertheless it's wonderful news, exactly what we need at the minute.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 07, 2009, 04:56:44 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 07, 2009, 04:27:54 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on March 07, 2009, 03:37:44 PM
tones minors beating silverbridge by 2 lnight row broke out parents/spectators jumped on and hit tones players.. whats that about cullyhanna pints...
First I heard of it, I get the impression you're not telling the whole story?
Nevertheless it's wonderful news, exactly what we need at the minute.

Charlie would het the boot into Tones if needed, he actually would be fair enough like that , so probably a bit of truth in it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 07, 2009, 04:58:47 PM
I'm not suggesting there's not.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 07, 2009, 05:01:05 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 07, 2009, 04:58:47 PM
I'm not suggesting there's not.

You said you suggest he is not telling the whole story?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 07, 2009, 05:03:50 PM
 I just wonder what happened that caused members of the crowd to get involved and that's not trying to excuse it, if some of our crowd acted the bollocks I'll have no trouble saying it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 07, 2009, 05:45:10 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on March 07, 2009, 03:37:44 PM
tones minors beating silverbridge by 2 lnight row broke out parents/spectators jumped on and hit tones players.. whats that about cullyhanna pints...

take it the big son wasn't around to sort it all out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on March 07, 2009, 10:25:00 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on March 07, 2009, 03:37:44 PM
tones minors beating silverbridge by 2 lnight row broke out parents/spectators jumped on and hit tones players.. whats that about cullyhanna pints...
no players were hit by spectators stubbs i was at the match it was all settle till the tones keeper ran 60 yards and hit one our players from behind..spectators from both sides were out to stop it tat was all..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 08, 2009, 06:48:32 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on March 07, 2009, 10:25:00 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on March 07, 2009, 03:37:44 PM
tones minors beating silverbridge by 2 lnight row broke out parents/spectators jumped on and hit tones players.. whats that about cullyhanna pints...
no players were hit by spectators stubbs i was at the match it was all settle till the tones keeper ran 60 yards and hit one our players from behind..spectators from both sides were out to stop it tat was all..
Heard Tones had the decency to ring and apologise, fair play.
Seems like a storm in a teacup.

Btw charlie, I assume you didn't hear exactly what happened, members of the crowd went on to the field to stop rows because the ref had lost control, after your goalkeeper ran the length of the field to hit someone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 08, 2009, 07:26:37 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 08, 2009, 06:48:32 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on March 07, 2009, 10:25:00 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on March 07, 2009, 03:37:44 PM
tones minors beating silverbridge by 2 lnight row broke out parents/spectators jumped on and hit tones players.. whats that about cullyhanna pints...
no players were hit by spectators stubbs i was at the match it was all settle till the tones keeper ran 60 yards and hit one our players from behind..spectators from both sides were out to stop it tat was all..
Heard Tones had the decency to ring and apologise, fair play.
Seems like a storm in a teacup.

Btw charlie, I assume you didn't hear exactly what happened, members of the crowd went on to the field to stop rows because the ref had lost control, after your goalkeeper ran the length of the field to hit someone.


Seems to be exactly that. Also think it is bad form to write about minor incidents like this on the internet, especially when one's own club is involved...

Any club results from around the county? See Maghery stuffed St Peter's in Pat McMahon Cup, wins for Sarsfield's & Tír na nÓg also
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 08, 2009, 07:52:00 PM
QuoteAlso think it is bad form to write about minor incidents like this on the internet, especially when one's own club is involved...
what do you mean?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 08, 2009, 07:55:47 PM
heard that from a minor player wat talking too suppose in hindsight maybe should have not listened to him as know people can exaggerate things when they are involved.apologies pints and to silverbridge
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 08, 2009, 07:57:54 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 08, 2009, 07:52:00 PM
QuoteAlso think it is bad form to write about minor incidents like this on the internet, especially when one's own club is involved...
what do you mean?

People tend to exaggerate and show bias towards their own side. These things are best kept on the pitch
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 08, 2009, 07:58:11 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on March 08, 2009, 07:55:47 PM
heard that from a minor player wat talking too suppose in hindsight maybe should have not listened to him as know people can exaggerate things when they are involved.apologies pints and to silverbridge
No worries, just glad it was storm in a tea cup and nothing major and we're all friends again...until the next time!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on March 08, 2009, 07:59:28 PM
Anyone know if the minor league fixtures are out yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on March 08, 2009, 11:03:37 PM
Any team that are interested in a Minor Challenge game over the next three weeks please PM me.

Preferably we are looking for a Grade 2/Section B standard side.

We are willing to travel and to host (we have floodlit facilities for midweek games).

Thanks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on March 11, 2009, 09:47:30 AM
Harps are playing the 'Nab tonight in the Athletic Grounds at 7.30pm in the Mid-Board Cup Final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 11, 2009, 01:44:36 PM
Who cares.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 11, 2009, 01:54:26 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 11, 2009, 01:44:36 PM
Who cares.

Wise up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on March 11, 2009, 02:17:34 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 11, 2009, 01:44:36 PM
Who cares.
Eh, Harps and & Nab people who mightn't know it's on?

Must take some effort to be that big a knob.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on March 11, 2009, 03:50:59 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 11, 2009, 02:17:34 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 11, 2009, 01:44:36 PM
Who cares.
Eh, Harps and & Nab people who mightn't know it's on?

Must take some effort to be that big a knob.

I care Benny, I'll be at it, should be a good warm up for the 1st round of the c'ship  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on March 11, 2009, 04:20:01 PM
Should be a handy one for the Nab tonight, we've been seriously depleted lately between missing County men and injuries.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on March 11, 2009, 04:22:12 PM
No way Benny, the Harps still have a far bigger pool of players to choose from, The nab are struggling with a few injuries as well,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 11, 2009, 04:24:54 PM
mind games ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on March 11, 2009, 10:33:30 PM
Who won the big match tonight?

Who won the battle of the mind games lol!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on March 11, 2009, 10:42:35 PM
nab won by 2pts i think,deserved winners.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sickboy on March 11, 2009, 10:51:25 PM
the nab won 2-6 to 3-2. first post here, im great.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on March 12, 2009, 11:41:50 AM
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Dear Sir/Madame

                   I would like to offer you a fantastic marketing opportunity for your company.  The Senior team of St Brenda's Camogie Club Ballymacnab, County Armagh are ordering a full new kit for the upcoming season and have come up with a novel idea to offer businesses the chance to have their name printed on the front of the kit for just ₤25.   



Ballymacnab are one of the top teams in Ulster with 17 senior championships and are known province wide and much further a field due to this success. In 2008 they won the Armagh senior League, were runners up in the Armagh senior championship, were runners up in the Ulster Senior League and reached the semi-finals of the All Ireland 7s in Dublin.  2009 is expected to be another highly successful year.  Whichever business has their name on the Ballymacnab kit can expect it to be seen all over Armagh, throughout Ulster, and on the All Ireland stage later in the year, with lots of media coverage that will again bring the businesses name into the public eye. 



How does it Work?



With the current economic climate the club felt it would be unfair and unrealistic to ask any one business to fit the total bill for the new kit so the following idea will be used.



There are 24 players on the senior panel and each player must sell 2 tickets at ₤25  to businesses that are interested in this fantastic opportunity.  The names of each of these businesses will be entered into a draw and the winner will be the sponsor for the upcoming year.  Each Business will have a 1 in 48 chance of having their name on the kit for just ₤25.   The winner will also appear in the Irish news and local papers presenting the new kit with their name on it to the team, offering even more exposure for your business.





All entries to the draw must be submitted and confirmed by



1:00PM on Friday 13th March

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on March 12, 2009, 11:44:04 AM
Forgot to say PM me if you are interested and I will help you arrange getting a ticket.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 12, 2009, 12:37:58 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 11, 2009, 02:17:34 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 11, 2009, 01:44:36 PM
Who cares.
Eh, Harps and & Nab people who mightn't know it's on?

Must take some effort to be that big a knob.


I bet there wasnt 20 at it! And no I find it relatively easy son! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on March 12, 2009, 12:54:46 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 12, 2009, 12:37:58 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 11, 2009, 02:17:34 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 11, 2009, 01:44:36 PM
Who cares.
Eh, Harps and & Nab people who mightn't know it's on?

Must take some effort to be that big a knob.


I bet there wasnt 20 at it! And no I find it relatively easy son! ;D

and what were you doing last night, Watching Man utd and coronation st or some shite, if you have nothing constructive to write, dont bother writing anything, BTW there was 21 at it  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 12, 2009, 01:04:14 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on March 12, 2009, 12:54:46 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 12, 2009, 12:37:58 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 11, 2009, 02:17:34 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 11, 2009, 01:44:36 PM
Who cares.
Eh, Harps and & Nab people who mightn't know it's on?

Must take some effort to be that big a knob.


I bet there wasnt 20 at it! And no I find it relatively easy son! ;D

and what were you doing last night, Watching Man utd and coronation st or some shite, if you have nothing constructive to write, dont bother writing anything, BTW there was 21 at it  ;)

They played 10-and-a-half a side.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 12, 2009, 03:11:55 PM
But billy surley you can't sell sponsership by telling lies...Ballymacnab only wishes they had that pedigree you just wrote there. any business man would know that Ballymacnab couldn't achieve/achieved that load of keek...lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 12, 2009, 03:12:16 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on March 12, 2009, 12:54:46 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 12, 2009, 12:37:58 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 11, 2009, 02:17:34 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 11, 2009, 01:44:36 PM
Who cares.
Eh, Harps and & Nab people who mightn't know it's on?

Must take some effort to be that big a knob.


I bet there wasnt 20 at it! And no I find it relatively easy son! ;D

and what were you doing last night, Watching Man utd and coronation st or some shite, if you have nothing constructive to write, dont bother writing anything, BTW there was 21 at it  ;)


Is it any wonder there hasnt been a dozen posts on this site in a month! c***ts like you boring people to f**king death with your contstructive this and constructive that! Its a f**king chat forum! If you dont like what I say then tough f**king shit! Get a life and learn to incorportae some humour and slagging into that pathetic life of yours! Without this board and your stupid analysis of every comment your life would be empty wouldnt it son?  ;D :D :D ;D ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on March 12, 2009, 03:23:03 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 12, 2009, 03:12:16 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on March 12, 2009, 12:54:46 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 12, 2009, 12:37:58 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 11, 2009, 02:17:34 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 11, 2009, 01:44:36 PM
Who cares.
Eh, Harps and & Nab people who mightn't know it's on?

Must take some effort to be that big a knob.


I bet there wasnt 20 at it! And no I find it relatively easy son! ;D

and what were you doing last night, Watching Man utd and coronation st or some shite, if you have nothing constructive to write, dont bother writing anything, BTW there was 21 at it  ;)


Is it any wonder there hasnt been a dozen posts on this site in a month! c***ts like you boring people to f**king death with your contstructive this and constructive that! Its a f**king chat forum! If you dont like what I say then tough f**king shit! Get a life and learn to incorportae some humour and slagging into that pathetic life of yours! Without this board and your stupid analysis of every comment your life would be empty wouldnt it son?  ;D :D :D ;D ;) :D ;D

f**k you really are a c**k!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 12, 2009, 03:25:16 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 12, 2009, 03:11:55 PM
But billy surley you can't sell sponsership by telling lies...Ballymacnab only wishes they had that pedigree you just wrote there. any business man would know that Ballymacnab couldn't achieve/achieved that load of keek...lol

The Senior team of St Brenda's Camogie Club Ballymacnab, County Armagh 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on March 12, 2009, 03:28:13 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 12, 2009, 03:11:55 PM
But billy surley you can't sell sponsership by telling lies...Ballymacnab only wishes they had that pedigree you just wrote there. any business man would know that Ballymacnab couldn't achieve/achieved that load of keek...lol

Sorry to inform you illdecide, but they actually have achieved "that load of keek" that was stated in the advert
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 12, 2009, 04:51:25 PM
well i have an apology to make...Sorry Billy :-[ thought you were talking about senior football there...Just seen the word Senior and jumped in feet 1st.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on March 13, 2009, 02:19:48 PM

QuoteFriday, March 13, 2009

Bellew may have made Armagh exit
by Brendan O'Brien

FRANCIE BELLEW may have played his last game for Armagh.

One of Gaelic football's cult figures, the 32-year old defender first played senior football for his county against Louth in 2002 and has earned a reputation for his robust style of play on the pitch and his quiet demeanour off it.

Bellew is preparing for the All-Ireland club final against Kilmacud Crokes next week and his Crossmaglen Rangers manager Donal Murtagh has hinted the defender will not be returning to inter-county duty.

"Francie is very hard to get information out of, as you know. He said he wasn't too keen on going back. He said it was a young man's game so maybe he is fed up of running around after speedy forwards."

This isn't the first time that Bellew's future with Armagh has been speculated on but he returned to the inter-county scene last year after picking up a cruciate knee ligament injury in May of 2007 that sidelined him for over six months.

Bellew won an All-Ireland senior title under Joe Kernan in 2002 and added five Ulster championships and a 2003 All Star award to his catalogue during an inter-county career in which he developed a fearsome reputation as a full-back.

His influence has yet to wane at club level. Murtagh, who played in three All-Ireland club finals with him, has deployed Bellew at centre-back where he has played a more prominent role in Crossmaglen's attacking plans.

"In my opinion, centre-half back was always his best position," said Murtagh. "He played there in front of me when I was number three. He is back out there now but it is horses for courses. We might well have to put him in the full-back line for Tuesday. You don't know."

The club has always come first for Bellew, despite his success in the inter-county environment. His haul with Rangers includes 13 county championships, seven Ulsters and four All-Irelands.

Oisin McConville has already called time on his Armagh career but Peter McDonnell will still be waiting impatiently on the return of a number of Cross players including Paul Hearty, Aaron Kernan and Stephen Kernan.

The county could certainly do with them as the sheen has long disappeared from the opening day Division Two win in Wexford after home defeats to Laois and Monaghan.

Said Murtagh: "Armagh are stretched to the limit at the minute. They have one or two other players injured as well. They are down to the bare bones. As soon as we get this out of the way, we will be more than happy to send down as many as Peter wants. We have a number of players who are good enough to play for Armagh."

The question has long been asked as to whether Crossmaglen's continuing success is good for Armagh. Another worth pondering is whether Rangers' success is good for their own players' inter-county ambitions.

Young players like Paul Kernan and David McKenna are missing out on months of preparations with the county side year after year but Murtagh believes that talent will be the sole arbiter in that scenario.

"They are still only in their early 20s so there is plenty of time. David is looking for a midfield position with Armagh and he is very young to be holding a place for the county team with seasoned midfielders there.

"He is biding his time. He is certainly good enough and he will want to get a wee bit stronger and a wee bit more streetwise to dominate a midfield position for the county but he is doing well for us. I can't complain.

"Paul Kernan has probably been our best player in the Ulster club. He is certainly playing out of his skin at the moment so it is only a matter of time before he gets his run."
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on March 16, 2009, 02:28:40 PM
Good luck to Cross tomo...I kno that cross are our rivals like many other clubs as well, but in the interest of armagh surely the experience of these boys playing in croker,like McKeown, PK, and McKenna ...this can only benefit the county team in the long run...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 16, 2009, 03:30:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 12, 2009, 04:51:25 PM
well i have an apology to make...Sorry Billy :-[ thought you were talking about senior football there...Just seen the word Senior and jumped in feet 1st.


Ha ha hung out to dry saan. :D :D :D :D :D :D

I'vedecided don't you know that this site is only for the the top level of mature chat ;). Any forms of whit are frowned upon unless you have the pleasure of being in the clicks. Not to mention that some folk just can't take a wee bit of abuse.

I see Cross taking tommorrows game by 4 or 5 confortable points. But you have only to ook at my spreads predictions to see that i am shite at predicting things like that. Anyway i'll be going out for a pint to watch it so good luck to them on the quest for supremacy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 17, 2009, 08:22:09 PM
Hard luck to Cross. Valliant effort. First final defeat in years - the start of the decline??? Only time will tell, I doubt it though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on March 17, 2009, 09:18:25 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 17, 2009, 08:22:09 PM
Hard luck to Cross. Valliant effort. First final defeat in years - the start of the decline??? Only time will tell, I doubt it though.

first final defeat since 1982. Kilmacud well worth the win, cross just didnt seem to get started at all. Time will tell but i would be suprised if one or two stay on for another go at it. In saying that im sure there'll be no hasty decisions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaahead2008 on March 17, 2009, 09:51:07 PM
hard luck to cross, it was there's for the taking. they gave a huge effort in the second half - big donal mustve blew his top at half time!!
thought aaron kernan tried hard, oisin's first point was unbelievable!
i have no doubt the cross lads will be back next year, with even more grit and determination!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: under the bar on March 17, 2009, 10:01:55 PM
I heard from Cross suppoter that it is well known around the town that Francie has already decided not to return to inter-county football.  Anyone else hear that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 18, 2009, 12:45:39 AM
Hard luck cross today but it has to be said Kilmacud were the better side. I thought they outmuscled cross today which is not an easy job. The middle of the field for Cross again wasn't the best and Kilmacud were picking up most of the breaks. The ball into their forwards was also very good allowing the man to get out in front and the ball was delivered on the right side. A few of the Cross lads tried to lift it but i just got the sense that they had just threw the towel in. Towards the end there was a shot showing a reply and you could see 4 or 5 cross lads hanging their heads resigned to defeat (i can't say i have witnessed this before) I thought the ref today was once again a little more leniant towards the Crokes. He was letting them knock it in a little bit more imo but hen again some of the cross fouls were cynical (and they have got away with a few of them in the past) All in all a great side and record that will never be beaten by an Armagh team. I hardly think it will set any alarm bells of in cross. I would say, knowing the nature of the beast it will spare them on for highier achievements next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 18, 2009, 12:30:17 PM
Quote from: under the bar on March 17, 2009, 10:01:55 PM
I heard from Cross suppoter that it is well known around the town that Francie has already decided not to return to inter-county football.  Anyone else hear that?

Heard that aswell, duno where, but his return to the county setup was always in doubt. Disappointing that Cross didn't do the business but on the day Crokes wanted it that bit more
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on March 18, 2009, 03:29:52 PM
When, and where, do Armgh under 21's play Cavan.??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on March 18, 2009, 04:08:14 PM
Quote from: crossfire on March 18, 2009, 03:29:52 PM
When, and where, do Armgh under 21's play Cavan.??

Athletic Grounds, Armagh, tonight (Wed) at 8.00pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 18, 2009, 04:08:22 PM
Tonight in Armagh but from the thread on the General section there's a bit of debate as to whether the match is at 8 or half 7.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on March 18, 2009, 04:24:49 PM
Its in the Irish news as a 08:00pm throw in
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 18, 2009, 04:34:18 PM
Quote from: gaahead2008 on March 17, 2009, 09:51:07 PM
hard luck to cross, it was there's for the taking. they gave a huge effort in the second half - big donal mustve blew his top at half time!!
thought aaron kernan tried hard, oisin's first point was unbelievable!
i have no doubt the cross lads will be back next year, with even more grit and determination!!


I believe this was said last year when St. Vincents thumped them. Its getting harder for Cross to defeat teams like Crokes and Vincents and even Dr. crokes the other year should have beat them. The old heads are exactly that now - old! Not as much left in the tank and the youger ones arent anywhere near as effective. Of course they will win Armagh again and prob Ulster but in my opinion that is a sad indictment of Ulster club football. Galls, Ballinderry etc actually lie down to Cross and play into their hands but teams of the quality of Crokes etc certainly dont. I honestly beleive thats the end of this Cross team  on the All- Ireland stage. I said after Vincents beat them they had one more year to add another and now that has gone. Thank God and I dont mean that in a nasty way - its really time other teams round here woke up again!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on March 18, 2009, 04:54:12 PM
Yeah, I'd agree there seems to be a chink of light for the Armagh teams.  Cross new breed aren't in the same league as the Mac's, McConvilles etc...  They'll probably break the consectutive Co Champ record next year and then I would doubt there will be much more to motivate them.  The Cross without the oul hands will still be formidable but beatable.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on March 18, 2009, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 18, 2009, 04:54:12 PM
Yeah, I'd agree there seems to be a chink of light for the Armagh teams.  Cross new breed aren't in the same league as the Mac's, McConvilles etc...  They'll probably break the consectutive Co Champ record next year and then I would doubt there will be much more to motivate them.  The Cross without the oul hands will still be formidable but beatable.



they never were unbeatable. they are just a very good team, who play well as a team. I agree that the individuals like the mcentees, oisin mcconville, etc are exceptional players but to say the are only beatable without these players is wrong. different teams down the years could and maybe should have beaten them but just didnt have the bottle.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 19, 2009, 02:35:53 PM
I agree that they were never unbeatable but they have never been beat (In Armagh) which is testament to them but also a sad reflection on the other teams. Although to be fair some teams have been extremely unlucky rather than not having the bottle. Back at the start the Clans had them played off the park twice (1997 and 1998) Mullaghbawn had them beat in a first round game and the Ogs had them beat at Keady one night only for some very questionable refereeing! Dromintee were unlucky once or twice particularly in one of the finals however having played them 8 or 9 times being unlucky once or twice is not good enough so Drom cant really complain. Next few years will be interesting cause although Cross may well be on the wane, so too are the other teams!! Clans are rebuilding big time as are the Harps and Mullaghbawn, Dromintee arent quite the team they were which leaves the Ogs and they are as unpredictable as they are capable. Cross could win another few by default!  :o :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on March 19, 2009, 03:31:08 PM

Given their recent resurgence at underage level and the demography of their team. cold cullyhanna be the next challengers?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 19, 2009, 03:47:03 PM
Quote from: The GAA on March 19, 2009, 03:31:08 PM

Given their recent resurgence at underage level and the demography of their team. cold cullyhanna be the next challengers?

Dunno but a hot Cullyhanna could??? (only messin :P)

Yes i believe the only team at the minute to beat Cross in the next 2-3 years is the Og's but if only they had the belief that they can actually do it...Cullyhanna are a decent side with committed lads but i think they are 2-3 players short of winning a senior championship. I have plenty of time for the Cullyhanna lads and if we can't win it i'd like to see them guys do it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on March 19, 2009, 04:51:55 PM
Anyone know what's up with orchardcounty.com?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on March 19, 2009, 05:13:31 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 19, 2009, 04:51:55 PM
Anyone know what's up with orchardcounty.com?
It's broke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on March 19, 2009, 05:41:24 PM
Broken indeed. I've come round to it a wee bit in the last couple of months. When you cut through the childish crap that makes up 95% of the posts, there are actually a couple of decent posters over there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on March 19, 2009, 05:42:52 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 19, 2009, 05:41:24 PM
Broken indeed. I've come round to it a wee bit in the last couple of months. When you cut through the childish crap that makes up 95% of the posts, there are actually a couple of decent posters over there.
There are indeed, yourself included.  I like the way that some retired IC men post a bit on it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on March 19, 2009, 06:19:32 PM
Which posters are retired county men?  Gar is a very good poster, efforts should be made to lure him over here  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on March 19, 2009, 06:43:48 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 19, 2009, 06:19:32 PM
Which posters are retired county men?  Gar is a very good poster, efforts should be made to lure him over here  :P
retired and gar are 2 I know of.  I believe retired was in the '77 squad.  Not entirely sure when gar played though I have a feeling he had something to do with '77 squad too
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 19, 2009, 07:54:20 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 19, 2009, 04:51:55 PM
Anyone know what's up with orchardcounty.com?


Its shite! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 20, 2009, 10:01:14 AM
Correct saan It is even worse when you get barred from it :D :D :D :D ;)

Cullyhanna are well down the pecking order in terms of challenging the cross. I would say this year Cross will get their stiffest tests from once again the Og's, The Harps and Dromintee i think realistically the other teams are only kidding themselves. Now i know you are coming to come back and say that the Harps are a division two team but with all due respect they are a better team than their league position shows. Cullyhanna would fall into the same category as Culloville, Clann Eireann, Mullaghbawn, Clans, Killeavy and the rest of the challengers for the SFC. The rest of the teams on there could beat each other at the minute but for these teams to beat the  top four, as stated above would be punching above their weight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 20, 2009, 11:42:47 AM
Quote from: The GAA on March 19, 2009, 03:31:08 PM

Given their recent resurgence at underage level and the demography of their team. cold cullyhanna be the next challengers?

Interesting.

Cullyhanna are a great club and in a few years could very well be up there. Great team and very good underage structure.

Maybe TAC can answer this, but would a lof of promosing youngsters get distracted by the drink etc and not make it up to seniors?

They have a character similar to Cross - a touch or arrogance, a bit of confidence and a never-say-die approach.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: apres_match on March 20, 2009, 11:53:05 AM
You could draw parallels with Harps and Nottingham Forest or Leeds in England. Big clubs, great history....lower divisions now. They have no particular right to consider themselves to be 'top four' or certainly not to consider themselves superior to the likes of Cullyhanna or Killeavy. League tables don't lie and Harps were relegated, regardless of a decent Championship run.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 20, 2009, 12:06:17 PM
Quote from: apres_match on March 20, 2009, 11:53:05 AM
You could draw parallels with Harps and Nottingham Forest or Leeds in England. Big clubs, great history....lower divisions now. They have no particular right to consider themselves to be 'top four' or certainly not to consider themselves superior to the likes of Cullyhanna or Killeavy. League tables don't lie and Harps were relegated, regardless of a decent Championship run.

I am not from the harps apres so it is not them considering themselves to be in the top four it is me. Having played against them over the years i can tell you that they have better gifted footballers than Killeavy or Cullyhanna. They will be a bigger threat to Cross this year than Cullyhanna or Killeavy. Fair enought they were relegated but we all know what way the league works especially Division one. There are a lot of teams use it for preparation and this can back fire on them at the end of the year when they suddenly find themselves in the scenarion were they are no longer safe and have to sort of pull results out of the fire. This is what happened to the harps, but they certainly don't become a bad team over night. You cannot compare them to Nott's forest or any other soccer team because Cullyhanna can't fork out 3 or 4 million for the latest superstar. You only have to make do with what you have. Whilst there are some exceptionally talented footballers in the ranks of Cullyhanna and Killeavy i would certainly rate the harps as more of a threat in the senior championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 20, 2009, 12:36:57 PM
Quote from: apres_match on March 20, 2009, 11:53:05 AM
League tables don't lie and Harps were relegated, regardless of a decent Championship run.

Welcome aboard Apres.

However, that is nonsense. In Armagh club football League tables do lie. Firtsly, for a lot of clubs thier league team does not resemble their Championship side.

Secondly, Cross have only a couple of leagues over the 13 years (does anyone know by the way exaxtly how many?) so another reason why they lie.

Harps have went down, Ogs have went down, Clans as well, Dromintee flirt with relegation more often than not recently, they are all still amongsat the top teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 20, 2009, 01:05:09 PM
Quote from: corn02 on March 20, 2009, 12:36:57 PM
Quote from: apres_match on March 20, 2009, 11:53:05 AM
League tables don't lie and Harps were relegated, regardless of a decent Championship run.

Welcome aboard Apres.

However, that is nonsense. In Armagh club football League tables do lie. Firtsly, for a lot of clubs thier league team does not resemble their Championship side.

Secondly, Cross have only a couple of leagues over the 13 years (does anyone know by the way exaxtly how many?) so another reason why they lie.

Harps have went down, Ogs have went down, Clans as well, Dromintee flirt with relegation more often than not recently, they are all still amongsat the top teams.

I think I may have 4 medals corn, definitely 3, it could be more, I'm not sure.  I think we have won at least 2 since I left so we won at least 5 and possibly 6.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 20, 2009, 01:07:13 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 20, 2009, 01:05:09 PM
Quote from: corn02 on March 20, 2009, 12:36:57 PM
Quote from: apres_match on March 20, 2009, 11:53:05 AM
League tables don't lie and Harps were relegated, regardless of a decent Championship run.

Welcome aboard Apres.

However, that is nonsense. In Armagh club football League tables do lie. Firtsly, for a lot of clubs thier league team does not resemble their Championship side.

Secondly, Cross have only a couple of leagues over the 13 years (does anyone know by the way exaxtly how many?) so another reason why they lie.

Harps have went down, Ogs have went down, Clans as well, Dromintee flirt with relegation more often than not recently, they are all still amongsat the top teams.

I think I may have 4 medals corn, definitely 3, it could be more, I'm not sure.  I think we have won at least 2 since I left so we won at least 5 and possibly 6.

I think you have won the last two, so possibly even more. But you get the idea, they haven't won 13, so the table does lie a bit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 20, 2009, 02:16:39 PM
I have at least 3 div 1 medals if not 4 as well as a div 2 medal but what did we do in the championship (feck all) bar 1 final. So the league means jack shit infact i couldn't tell ya where my medals are, haven't seen them in years. A senior championship medal is the only one that counts and i don't have any of them...( >:()
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 20, 2009, 02:30:58 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 20, 2009, 02:16:39 PM
I have at least 3 div 1 medals if not 4 as well as a div 2 medal but what did we do in the championship (feck all) bar 1 final. So the league means jack shit infact i couldn't tell ya where my medals are, haven't seen them in years. A senior championship medal is the only one that counts and i don't have any of them...( >:()

I always thought you were on the squad in 1993-94, I must have you mixed up with someone else ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: apres_match on March 20, 2009, 03:03:07 PM
True enough, I may have overstated things when you take into consideration how ogs and clans have gone down in the past, the point I was attempting to convey however was that in the county at present we have a big two, not a big four. Cross and Ogs are the strongest and best balanced teams and then you have a layer of good, solid teams such as Cullyhanna, Killeavy, Clans, Dromintee and indeed, Harps. I just wouldn't be putting Harps on a pedestal to be knocked off :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on March 20, 2009, 03:31:30 PM

For what its worth i think dromintee are a fair bit ahead of ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: apres_match on March 20, 2009, 03:33:59 PM
Quote from: The GAA on March 20, 2009, 03:31:30 PM

For what its worth i think dromintee are a fair bit ahead of ogs

Is that a reflection of having seven (i think) county men?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on March 20, 2009, 03:35:05 PM

Not particularly. just from lookin at both in the championship over the last 2/3 years
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 20, 2009, 03:52:48 PM
Quote from: The GAA on March 20, 2009, 03:31:30 PM

For what its worth i think dromintee are a fair bit ahead of ogs

That is complete nonsense, the ogs are probably the second best team in the county followed by Dromintee (who would be just a fraction behind the ogs but a game between the two would be a close call) and the Harps. The other teams are on a level power but realistically they would only beat the above teams if they had a bad day at the office and the other teams had a good day. The harps this year would be a decent division 1 team if they were in that league . Corn is 100% correct when he says that league positions are not really enough to judge a team on. For many years my own club used the league to try out players in new positions once they knew they were safe. There were many games called off and the points were given to teams towards the end of the year. Not to mention the meaningless matches that took place at the end of the year. If i had to rank the teams now in the county it would be like so

Cross
Ogs
Dromintee
Harps

Then
Mullaghbawn
Cullyhanna
Clans
Killeavy
 
Then
Sarsfield
Tir Na Nog
Granemore
Carrickcruppen
Maghery
Clann Eireann
Ballymacnab
I am sure i have left a few teams out (apologies in advance) Now i am not saying any teams are useless because on any given day any team could beat the other but this is how i would grade them based on the last few years of football in both league and championship.

Oh and I'lldecide i think we have 4 division 1 league medals possibly 5 and a second division.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on March 20, 2009, 03:57:12 PM

Its all about opinions and there's no actual measure unless teams play. ogs have avoided dromintee for the last 2 years and not troubled cross either time. dromintee drew with cross last year and lost by 3 this year.

i don't really care about this discussion but knowing the personnel on both sides well i just reckon dromintee would beat ogs by 3 or 4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 20, 2009, 04:14:32 PM
fair enough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 20, 2009, 04:33:57 PM
How does anyone think Sarsfields & Cruppen will fair in Div1? I think one of the two will go flat out whilst the other will struggle, not sure which though. Sars in with a real shout for Inter championship so would expect them to use Div1 as a spring board like St Pats & Whitecross have done in the past few yrs. Any imminent retirement rumours in Cross yet  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 20, 2009, 05:15:34 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 20, 2009, 02:30:58 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 20, 2009, 02:16:39 PM
I have at least 3 div 1 medals if not 4 as well as a div 2 medal but what did we do in the championship (feck all) bar 1 final. So the league means jack shit infact i couldn't tell ya where my medals are, haven't seen them in years. A senior championship medal is the only one that counts and i don't have any of them...( >:()

I always thought you were on the squad in 1993-94, I must have you mixed up with someone else ;)

BC1 i was just floating about the B team then and decided to come into the senior team shortly afterwards...I was only interested in drinking and women back then so didn't care much for the commitment of senior football then when things settled down and the senior management asked me down and the rest is history...so no, no senior championship medals I'm afraid...

P.S. that photo of you in the Gaelic life must have been took a long time ago as your head looks a lot smaller in it from the last time i seen ya...lol :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 20, 2009, 05:28:42 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 20, 2009, 02:16:39 PM
I have at least 3 div 1 medals if not 4 as well as a div 2 medal but what did we do in the championship (feck all) bar 1 final. So the league means jack shit infact i couldn't tell ya where my medals are, haven't seen them in years. A senior championship medal is the only one that counts and i don't have any of them...( >:()


You prob ate them! ;D I think since '96 Clans have won 8 division 1 titles and have zero county tiltles. FACT. However I hate teams who have never (and could never) won the league rubbishing it as nothing. Its still a relative achievement to be top after 18 games considerig some of teams in it, but I agree this is nothing compared to a championship run.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 20, 2009, 05:32:33 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 20, 2009, 10:01:14 AM
Correct saan It is even worse when you get barred from it :D :D :D :D ;)

Cullyhanna are well down the pecking order in terms of challenging the cross. I would say this year Cross will get their stiffest tests from once again the Og's, The Harps and Dromintee i think realistically the other teams are only kidding themselves. Now i know you are coming to come back and say that the Harps are a division two team but with all due respect they are a better team than their league position shows. Cullyhanna would fall into the same category as Culloville, Clann Eireann, Mullaghbawn, Clans, Killeavy and the rest of the challengers for the SFC. The rest of the teams on there could beat each other at the minute but for these teams to beat the  top four, as stated above would be punching above their weight.

clann eireann are nowhere near as good as cullyhanna take out henderson and they would struggle stay in div 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 20, 2009, 05:33:34 PM
Couldnt agree more, they struggle with him in it!  ;D Wasters! They have a lovely bar though! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 20, 2009, 05:38:42 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 20, 2009, 03:52:48 PM
Quote from: The GAA on March 20, 2009, 03:31:30 PM

For what its worth i think dromintee are a fair bit ahead of ogs

That is complete nonsense, the ogs are probably the second best team in the county followed by Dromintee (who would be just a fraction behind the ogs but a game between the two would be a close call) and the Harps. The other teams are on a level power but realistically they would only beat the above teams if they had a bad day at the office and the other teams had a good day. The harps this year would be a decent division 1 team if they were in that league . Corn is 100% correct when he says that league positions are not really enough to judge a team on. For many years my own club used the league to try out players in new positions once they knew they were safe. There were many games called off and the points were given to teams towards the end of the year. Not to mention the meaningless matches that took place at the end of the year. If i had to rank the teams now in the county it would be like so

Cross
Ogs
Dromintee
Harps

Then
Mullaghbawn
Cullyhanna
Clans
Killeavy
 
Then
Sarsfield
Tir Na Nog
Granemore
Carrickcruppen
Maghery
Clann Eireann
Ballymacnab
I am sure i have left a few teams out (apologies in advance) Now i am not saying any teams are useless because on any given day any team could beat the other but this is how i would grade them based on the last few years of football in both league and championship.

Oh and I'lldecide i think we have 4 division 1 league medals possibly 5 and a second division.


fair enough observation win imo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 20, 2009, 05:42:04 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 20, 2009, 05:28:42 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 20, 2009, 02:16:39 PM
I have at least 3 div 1 medals if not 4 as well as a div 2 medal but what did we do in the championship (feck all) bar 1 final. So the league means jack shit infact i couldn't tell ya where my medals are, haven't seen them in years. A senior championship medal is the only one that counts and i don't have any of them...( >:()


You prob ate them! ;D I think since '96 Clans have won 8 division 1 titles and have zero county tiltles. FACT. However I hate teams who have never (and could never) won the league rubbishing it as nothing. Its still a relative achievement to be top after 18 games considerig some of teams in it, but I agree this is nothing compared to a championship run.

who else would have won the leagur in that time?no st pats did one year and obv cross.  if thats true thats amazing.  you would think a team that wins 8 league titles(not to be sniffed at) would be able to beat cross during that period.  suppose just tell you how good cross have been/are
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 20, 2009, 05:44:30 PM
were those the days cross couldn't find directions to lurgan??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 20, 2009, 05:45:04 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 20, 2009, 05:33:34 PM
Couldnt agree more, they struggle with him in it!  ;D Wasters! They have a lovely bar though! ;D

aye last few seasons have got enough wins at the start of the season to keep them up.  was talking to clan eireann man 2 years ago said that they had lost 11 in a row then i saw their final 2 games against st peters and tones and where horrible!heard the bar good all right might have get a look at it.lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 20, 2009, 06:04:29 PM
I remember beating cross one day in cross to win the league title and believe me it was a killing match so i guess you could say that one did matter ;)

I maybe wrong charlie but i think Mullagbawn may have won a league title or was it Dromintee???? Confusing myself now.

Definetly tink it was Dromintee now :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 20, 2009, 06:24:04 PM
Yes lads Cullyhana and dromintee won leagues, outside of those two its been the big two every year. (Well the big one and Clans! ;D)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on March 22, 2009, 02:03:58 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 20, 2009, 06:24:04 PM
Yes lads Cullyhana and dromintee won leagues, outside of those two its been the big two every year. (Well the big one and Clans! ;D)

Nope - Mullaghbawn league champions 2005
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 22, 2009, 05:03:29 PM
I knew the bawn had snuck an old league victory in there. It was Mullaghbawn then and Dromintee. Cullyhanna finished second one year i think but never won it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 22, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
Cullyhana definitely won it. I think it may have been round 2003 - ish.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 22, 2009, 06:26:23 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 22, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
Cullyhana definitely won it. I think it may have been round 2003 - ish.

Yip, think it may have been 04.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 23, 2009, 09:34:29 AM
I think the Clans are in with a good shout of winning the league this year...then again i think i'm thin...lol

Whats your perdictions for the year ahead...i.e. who will win the league and who will go down??? It's a hard one to call now as after 3-4 games you will prob have a fair idea who'll be in the mix and who'll not.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on March 23, 2009, 10:21:36 AM
Obv Cross will start as favs...even without their county contingent...their fitness levels should be way above the rest in the first few games....dont know alot above sarsfields or cruppen....but as with any promoted team...they will be giving it their all esp in the first few games.....a good start is so important....

I hope Peter continues on from last year and allows the county players to play as much as poss...on a personal note its not goin to benefit Mullaghbawn but you do rather play teams when they are at full strength....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 23, 2009, 10:52:29 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 22, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
Cullyhana definitely won it. I think it may have been round 2003 - ish.

correct saan :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 23, 2009, 01:13:23 PM
Well lads hows the Clans pre-season preparations going?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on March 23, 2009, 01:17:36 PM
hey lads, just a quick question some of you Armagh lads might know...
I have been told there is a cryogenetic tank in Keady, co. Armagh, does any of you guys know of it?? A number of even a name would be greatly appriciated, thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on March 23, 2009, 02:27:46 PM
a bit late entering this argument, but i would have dromintee ahead of og's in the ranking.
When was the last year a team other than crossmaglen knocked them out of the senior championship and i can only think of one occasion where dromintee and ogs went head to head in championship and drom won.
Fair enough i think it was well back possibly 2003 for semi final in silverbridge.
But i always feel that dromintee if they had 15 men on form on the day could take cross, however i think its turned into a mental block at this stage for dromintee and frustratingly dont think the current team will ever beat them. esp now the dyas factor is gone (temporarily in my opinion)

And thier have undoubtedly been times when dromintee should have taken cross particularily in silverbridge 2007 cross managed to scrape a replay and then detroyed them the next day.

But i think Cullyhanna are a good three years off seriously challenging cross they have a couple of passengers on that team.

Have the nab not had a few great underage teams come/coming through in the last few years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 23, 2009, 02:28:30 PM
Theres one in Gary Devlins Physio place in Portadown if thats any good to ya.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on March 23, 2009, 03:16:33 PM
Quote from: the salmon of knowledge on March 23, 2009, 01:17:36 PM
hey lads, just a quick question some of you Armagh lads might know...
I have been told there is a cryogenetic tank in Keady, co. Armagh, does any of you guys know of it?? A number of even a name would be greatly appriciated, thanks

Just sent you a PM there Salmon
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 23, 2009, 03:37:07 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 23, 2009, 01:13:23 PM
Well lads hows the Clans pre-season preparations going?

Very well IVEDECIDED...only lost 1 match to a very strong Derry team. It looks like Marsden and O Hagan won't be missed after all...and these new lads are only cubs so we should have them for the next decade ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 23, 2009, 03:37:53 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 23, 2009, 01:13:23 PM
Well lads hows the Clans pre-season preparations going?

Going well thanks plenty of conclusions that can be drawn from our pre season ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 23, 2009, 05:53:58 PM
Quote from: the scenic route on March 23, 2009, 02:27:46 PM
a bit late entering this argument, but i would have dromintee ahead of og's in the ranking.
When was the last year a team other than crossmaglen knocked them out of the senior championship and i can only think of one occasion where dromintee and ogs went head to head in championship and drom won.
Fair enough i think it was well back possibly 2003 for semi final in silverbridge.
But i always feel that dromintee if they had 15 men on form on the day could take cross, however i think its turned into a mental block at this stage for dromintee and frustratingly dont think the current team will ever beat them. esp now the dyas factor is gone (temporarily in my opinion)

And thier have undoubtedly been times when dromintee should have taken cross particularily in silverbridge 2007 cross managed to scrape a replay and then detroyed them the next day.

But i think Cullyhanna are a good three years off seriously challenging cross they have a couple of passengers on that team.

Have the nab not had a few great underage teams come/coming through in the last few years.

Not getting into the argument because I think there is little between a lot of clubs but to answer your question, the last team to beat us other than Cross I think was Ogs in 2000.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 23, 2009, 06:39:41 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 23, 2009, 10:52:29 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 22, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
Cullyhana definitely won it. I think it may have been round 2003 - ish.

correct saan :o :o :o :o

2002 I think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2009, 07:05:17 PM
I think it will be still quite a while before an Armagh team beat cross in the championship because all some people seem to be interested in is who's second best.   ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 23, 2009, 07:50:25 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2009, 07:05:17 PM
I think it will be still quite a while before an Armagh team beat cross in the championship because all some people seem to be interested in is who's second best.   ::)

Wow, you fairly missed the point there completely.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2009, 07:53:33 PM
how so?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 23, 2009, 07:59:02 PM
Just because Cross are out on their own it does not mean you can not discuss the merits of certain teams. It is not a competition to see who is second best, it is discussing strenths and weaknesses of teams which happens in every sport in every league across the globe.

Every team being mentioned is aiming to be number one, so nobody is fighting it out to be second best. But I would rather a bit of a realistic attitude instead of teams saying they were better than Cross when they are not.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2009, 08:06:18 PM
All I see is yet another discussion on who's second best. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on March 23, 2009, 08:08:49 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2009, 08:06:18 PM
All I see is yet another discussion on who's second best. 

So you think there needs to be a discussion about who is the best?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2009, 08:14:35 PM
Nope, who is best is very clear.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 23, 2009, 08:17:39 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 23, 2009, 03:37:07 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 23, 2009, 01:13:23 PM
Well lads hows the Clans pre-season preparations going?

Very well IVEDECIDED...only lost 1 match to a very strong Derry team. It looks like Marsden and O Hagan won't be missed after all...and these new lads are only cubs so we should have them for the next decade ;D


I thought it would be a few years before bumpy and grumpy would be replaced.  ;D Anyhow glad to hear its going well someone told me theres 12 of the panel in their first year of senior football? Is that true?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 23, 2009, 08:24:25 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2009, 08:06:18 PM
All I see is yet another discussion on who's second best. 

You're not looking very closely then. Do you not agree that teams can discuss their merits against each other irrespective of league standing , etc?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2009, 08:28:16 PM
Quote from: corn02 on March 23, 2009, 08:24:25 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2009, 08:06:18 PM
All I see is yet another discussion on who's second best. 

You're not looking very closely then. Do you not agree that teams can discuss their merits against each other irrespective of league standing , etc?
Yeah if there's not an underlying motive to discover or argue about who's second best. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 23, 2009, 08:37:13 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2009, 08:28:16 PM
Quote from: corn02 on March 23, 2009, 08:24:25 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2009, 08:06:18 PM
All I see is yet another discussion on who's second best. 

You're not looking very closely then. Do you not agree that teams can discuss their merits against each other irrespective of league standing , etc?
Yeah if there's not an underlying motive to discover or argue about who's second best. 

Jesus maybe you are looking too hard instead of not closely.

If that is ho you see it, so be it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on March 23, 2009, 09:54:21 PM
Going by what I have noticed it does seem like a discussion on who's second best. I think it's a pointless argument. Any of the teams outside of Cross are all capable of beating each other and as an Ogs man I know that we are not the only challengers. The Ogs haven't played Dromintee in Championship football since the 2003 semi final in Ballymacnab so it's not the Ogs' fault for the draw not pairing us up. I believe that any game between the two teams would go down to the wire. Going by the amount of county players we have been going through in the last few years with a couple of All Stars on top of that I'm a bit disappointed that we haven't at least one county title. Everyones always going to be biased and say that their team will do this and that. I know for a fact that if the Ogs play the Harps in the championship that it wouldn't be an easy match, I still think that we'd win as you would expect being a supporter of the team. Also I'd like to add that I admire Dromintee for the way they keep coming back every year. I know with the Ogs there was a couple of attempts and then it took a few years before we came back with another challenge. But on the whole there's not much between any of the teams at the top. Second place though is a bit of an embarrassing argument on Armagh club football's behalf
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 23, 2009, 10:19:40 PM
Snigger,snigger,snigger ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2009, 10:56:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 23, 2009, 10:19:40 PM
Snigger,snigger,snigger ;D
I don't blame you, I'd be sniggering too if I was a Cross man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 23, 2009, 10:59:36 PM
must be the way we are phrasing these debates corn because some folk are taking the complete wrong meaning out of it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on March 23, 2009, 11:10:54 PM
I have to say that I really enjoy the discussions that centre round the relative merits of the various clubs in the County. Rangers are of course ahead of the rest but I am at a loss to understand why people diss what are after all only harmless discussions. Yes, we may be in effect discussing who is second, third, fourth best, but is there not a bit of craic in that?

As for those that say the arguments are pointless, can I ask what exactly then is the point of posting anything on this forum?   ::)

Let's lighten up lads - if it's not your thing, then bow out - eh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2009, 11:26:15 PM
I just dont understand the mentality to argue that you're second best, who cares? The best, that's what matters. 
The only reason anyone argues their club is second best is because, in my eyes, they've settled for being second best. 

Of course it's only a pointless bit of fun but I just dont understand it. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on March 24, 2009, 12:22:17 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 23, 2009, 11:26:15 PM
I just dont understand the mentality to argue that you're second best, who cares? The best, that's what matters. 
The only reason anyone argues their club is second best is because, in my eyes, they've settled for being second best. 

Of course it's only a pointless bit of fun but I just dont understand it. 


I'll let you have the final word on this pints - I know this could go on ad infinitum.

I regularly partake in these discussions and I have never argued that Harps are second. The reality is though that Harps are somewhere in the order of merit, and arguing / debating where that is - amongst the rest - is a bit of craic - something I enjoy and is the reason why I'm here to be honest!

I am not involved any longer with our Senior team - committee only, although I am a supporter, attend regularly, and get to watch most of the other leading teams in the County. My opinions therefore in no way can be said to reflect a mindset from within our Senior squad that says Harps have settled for not being the best. These are my opinions only.

Finally though I would ask that those - including yourself pints - who point out the futility of these arguments, not see the irony in highlighting that, given that the same charge could be laid against every single post on this website?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on March 24, 2009, 07:27:24 AM
As usual Pints has basically just thrown a comment in to stir up a bit of an argument for no other reason than to just be annoying.   :o

My take on the whole discussion was that it was basically about naming which teams could mount any sort of a challenge to the current Ulster Champions and All Ireland Final Runners Up.

I don't see what is wrong in debating the attributes of these teams, do we really have to always talk about Cross?  Maybe you're just bored pints because you're not arguing about 'The Bridge' in an endless spite against St. Pat's people.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 24, 2009, 08:27:50 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on March 24, 2009, 07:27:24 AM
As usual Pints has basically just thrown a comment in to stir up a bit of an argument for no other reason than to just be annoying.   :o

My take on the whole discussion was that it was basically about naming which teams could mount any sort of a challenge to the current Ulster Champions and All Ireland Final Runners Up.

I don't see what is wrong in debating the attributes of these teams, do we really have to always talk about Cross?  Maybe you're just bored pints because you're not arguing about 'The Bridge' in an endless spite against St. Pat's people.



Well that's fine if you see it like that, I'm just saying the way I see it. 

As for the rest of your post, well...it would be an insult to orchardcounty to say it belonged over there  ::)
But I'll look forward to you having a similar dig at your club mate, who agrees with me.

Havent time to answer now rufus, I'll come back to it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 24, 2009, 11:14:55 AM
f**k you really are a twit pints! A discussion board and were not allowed to discuss anything! What about those teams in the second division are they not allowed to discuss the merits of their team just because they arent as good as cross! Catch a grip man!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 24, 2009, 11:37:16 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on March 23, 2009, 11:10:54 PM
I have to say that I really enjoy the discussions that centre round the relative merits of the various clubs in the County. Rangers are of course ahead of the rest but I am at a loss to understand why people diss what are after all only harmless discussions. Yes, we may be in effect discussing who is second, third, fourth best, but is there not a bit of craic in that?

As for those that say the arguments are pointless, can I ask what exactly then is the point of posting anything on this forum?   ::)

Let's lighten up lads - if it's not your thing, then bow out - eh?


What he said!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 24, 2009, 12:09:10 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 24, 2009, 11:14:55 AM
f**k you really are a twit pints! A discussion board and were not allowed to discuss anything! What about those teams in the second division are they not allowed to discuss the merits of their team just because they arent as good as cross! Catch a grip man!

Correct saan...but if we don't hear from you again soon we'll know the mods banned you...thats name calling can get you a suspension (if the right man reports ya...lol)

Thats true Pints if you don't like the discussion don't join in, go away to the greasy fry thread or the moaning thread and try your luck there...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Malone Aristocrat on March 24, 2009, 12:55:28 PM

When do the leagues start?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on March 24, 2009, 01:07:47 PM
19th April
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 24, 2009, 02:11:39 PM
At the end of the day pints who really cares what you think? or anyone else who agrees with you. If i wish to have a debate on who is second best or who is best then i will debate whatever i want. I don't ever remember having to ask permission to anyone when i am posting on a thread. This debate started when we were discussing the top teams in our county. Have an opinion on this issue or don't that is your decision but please quit trying to distract from the issue by taking cheap digs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 24, 2009, 07:08:21 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 24, 2009, 02:11:39 PM
At the end of the day pints who really cares what you think? or anyone else who agrees with you. If i wish to have a debate on who is second best or who is best then i will debate whatever i want. I don't ever remember having to ask permission to anyone when i am posting on a thread. This debate started when we were discussing the top teams in our county. Have an opinion on this issue or don't that is your decision but please quit trying to distract from the issue by taking cheap digs.

f**k sake man calm down, where did I say don't debate it? What are you talking about asking permission?  What are you going on about?

Christ almighty!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 24, 2009, 07:23:52 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on March 23, 2009, 11:10:54 PM
I have to say that I really enjoy the discussions that centre round the relative merits of the various clubs in the County. Rangers are of course ahead of the rest but I am at a loss to understand why people diss what are after all only harmless discussions. Yes, we may be in effect discussing who is second, third, fourth best, but is there not a bit of craic in that?

As for those that say the arguments are pointless, can I ask what exactly then is the point of posting anything on this forum?   ::)

Let's lighten up lads - if it's not your thing, then bow out - eh?

Rufus while discussing the merits of clubs is fair enough and a bit of craic etc, and most there were a few good posts the debate was turning again in to a discussion about ogs and dromintee and who's best i.e. second best, it's not the first time that has happened on this thread, in fact we go through the same discussion regularly.  Of course people posting on here dont necessarily reflect the mindset of their club's team or management but my comment was promted because there seems to be some joy taken in who's second, third or fourth.  For some clubs (the bridge inc) being considered third or fourth in the county would be an achievement but for the likes of ogs, harps dromintee, even clans it shouldnt be! I think if I belonged to one of these clubs I wouldnt give a f**k about talking about being third or fourth or second I'd be interested in being number 1.  Maybe we just have different mantalities but let me ask you, are you happy that Harps are considered to be third of fourth in the county?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on March 24, 2009, 10:34:42 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 24, 2009, 08:27:50 AM

Well that's fine if you see it like that, I'm just saying the way I see it. 

As for the rest of your post, well...it would be an insult to orchardcounty to say it belonged over there  ::)
But I'll look forward to you having a similar dig at your club mate, who agrees with me.

Havent time to answer now rufus, I'll come back to it.

Ogshead may have agreed that it sounded like a argument over who was second best, however he did also offer some opinions to the discussion.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 25, 2009, 11:16:43 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 24, 2009, 07:23:52 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on March 23, 2009, 11:10:54 PM
I have to say that I really enjoy the discussions that centre round the relative merits of the various clubs in the County. Rangers are of course ahead of the rest but I am at a loss to understand why people diss what are after all only harmless discussions. Yes, we may be in effect discussing who is second, third, fourth best, but is there not a bit of craic in that?

As for those that say the arguments are pointless, can I ask what exactly then is the point of posting anything on this forum?   ::)

Let's lighten up lads - if it's not your thing, then bow out - eh?

Rufus while discussing the merits of clubs is fair enough and a bit of craic etc, and most there were a few good posts the debate was turning again in to a discussion about ogs and dromintee and who's best i.e. second best, it's not the first time that has happened on this thread, in fact we go through the same discussion regularly.  Of course people posting on here dont necessarily reflect the mindset of their club's team or management but my comment was promted because there seems to be some joy taken in who's second, third or fourth.  For some clubs (the bridge inc) being considered third or fourth in the county would be an achievement but for the likes of ogs, harps dromintee, even clans it shouldnt be! I think if I belonged to one of these clubs I wouldnt give a f**k about talking about being third or fourth or second I'd be interested in being number 1.  Maybe we just have different mantalities but let me ask you, are you happy that Harps are considered to be third of fourth in the county?

To be honest Pints that's a load of auld baloney.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 25, 2009, 11:29:17 AM
Is it not a realistic mentality being adapted if you consider your club 3rd/4th in the county? I wouldn't rate my club in the top ten at the min.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 25, 2009, 12:04:08 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on March 25, 2009, 11:29:17 AM
Is it not a realistic mentality being adapted if you consider your club 3rd/4th in the county? I wouldn't rate my club in the top ten at the min.

Well according to POG you shouldn't be dsicussing your team then.

BC, snigger now, but when you are finally beaten POG won't let anyone discuss Cross on here either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 25, 2009, 03:22:56 PM
Since when was he a mod!? :o
Yeh I think/(really hope) Cross will get a few defeats this season, even if its just in the league. Only teams capable of mounting a challenge are the two city sides and dromintee IMO.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 25, 2009, 03:33:32 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 24, 2009, 07:23:52 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on March 23, 2009, 11:10:54 PM
I have to say that I really enjoy the discussions that centre round the relative merits of the various clubs in the County. Rangers are of course ahead of the rest but I am at a loss to understand why people diss what are after all only harmless discussions. Yes, we may be in effect discussing who is second, third, fourth best, but is there not a bit of craic in that?

As for those that say the arguments are pointless, can I ask what exactly then is the point of posting anything on this forum?   ::)

Let's lighten up lads - if it's not your thing, then bow out - eh?

Rufus while discussing the merits of clubs is fair enough and a bit of craic etc, and most there were a few good posts the debate was turning again in to a discussion about ogs and dromintee and who's best i.e. second best, it's not the first time that has happened on this thread, in fact we go through the same discussion regularly.  Of course people posting on here dont necessarily reflect the mindset of their club's team or management but my comment was promted because there seems to be some joy taken in who's second, third or fourth.  For some clubs (the bridge inc) being considered third or fourth in the county would be an achievement but for the likes of ogs, harps dromintee, even clans it shouldnt be! I think if I belonged to one of these clubs I wouldnt give a f**k about talking about being third or fourth or second I'd be interested in being number 1.  Maybe we just have different mantalities but let me ask you, are you happy that Harps are considered to be third of fourth in the county?

I think the point that you are missing here pints is the fact that Cross are the best team in the county. The results from last year prove that. When we are discussing the merits of each of the other clubs we are not saying they are second best because of course when we take the field against the cross we do so thinking that we can win. It is you that is jumping to the conclusions by saying that the cross are always number one in any game. If my club were to play the cross this year in the championship even though they destroyed us by 20 points last year i would till think we are going to win this year. So it is infact you my friend that is turning this debate into a second best as you call it.

I will state is again there are a top four teams in the county IMO Cross, Harps, Ogs and Dromintee. A game between any of theses teams on their day would be a very close game. I was saying that the harps are by no means a second division teams and they would be (based on last year) firm contenders for the senior championship as would Dromintee, Og and cross. The rest of the teams could win the senior championship but it is more likely that a winner will come from these four. Now you will notice that i didn't say that the harps are capable of securing a runners up spot. So i never once mentioned second best (i suppose now you will trail through pages of posts to see if i mentioned the number 2nd and best) ;) :D

Take it as it is, it's a debate about football in our county. If it involves ranking teams then so what. That is what this board is for.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on March 25, 2009, 03:43:24 PM
Is Pints the second best poster on the board!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 25, 2009, 03:47:24 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on March 25, 2009, 03:43:24 PM
Is Pints the second best poster on the board!  ;D
gets my vote  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 25, 2009, 03:55:34 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 25, 2009, 03:33:32 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 24, 2009, 07:23:52 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on March 23, 2009, 11:10:54 PM
I have to say that I really enjoy the discussions that centre round the relative merits of the various clubs in the County. Rangers are of course ahead of the rest but I am at a loss to understand why people diss what are after all only harmless discussions. Yes, we may be in effect discussing who is second, third, fourth best, but is there not a bit of craic in that?

As for those that say the arguments are pointless, can I ask what exactly then is the point of posting anything on this forum?   ::)

Let's lighten up lads - if it's not your thing, then bow out - eh?

Rufus while discussing the merits of clubs is fair enough and a bit of craic etc, and most there were a few good posts the debate was turning again in to a discussion about ogs and dromintee and who's best i.e. second best, it's not the first time that has happened on this thread, in fact we go through the same discussion regularly.  Of course people posting on here dont necessarily reflect the mindset of their club's team or management but my comment was promted because there seems to be some joy taken in who's second, third or fourth.  For some clubs (the bridge inc) being considered third or fourth in the county would be an achievement but for the likes of ogs, harps dromintee, even clans it shouldnt be! I think if I belonged to one of these clubs I wouldnt give a f**k about talking about being third or fourth or second I'd be interested in being number 1.  Maybe we just have different mantalities but let me ask you, are you happy that Harps are considered to be third of fourth in the county?

I think the point that you are missing here pints is the fact that Cross are the best team in the county. The results from last year prove that. When we are discussing the merits of each of the other clubs we are not saying they are second best because of course when we take the field against the cross we do so thinking that we can win. It is you that is jumping to the conclusions by saying that the cross are always number one in any game. If my club were to play the cross this year in the championship even though they destroyed us by 20 points last year i would till think we are going to win this year. So it is infact you my friend that is turning this debate into a second best as you call it.

I will state is again there are a top four teams in the county IMO Cross, Harps, Ogs and Dromintee. A game between any of theses teams on their day would be a very close game. I was saying that the harps are by no means a second division teams and they would be (based on last year) firm contenders for the senior championship as would Dromintee, Og and cross. The rest of the teams could win the senior championship but it is more likely that a winner will come from these four. Now you will notice that i didn't say that the harps are capable of securing a runners up spot. So i never once mentioned second best (i suppose now you will trail through pages of posts to see if i mentioned the number 2nd and best) ;) :D

Take it as it is, it's a debate about football in our county. If it involves ranking teams then so what. That is what this board is for.

Very well put.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 25, 2009, 04:29:19 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on March 25, 2009, 03:43:24 PM
Is Pints the second best poster on the board!  ;D


Hes definitley the Crossmaglen of annoying, no craic posters!! ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on March 25, 2009, 05:59:29 PM
Never argue with an idiot.....he'll drag you down to his level and beat you on experience!! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on March 26, 2009, 12:12:27 PM
Think its working well in mid-armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on March 26, 2009, 12:17:50 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on March 26, 2009, 11:34:04 AM
Lads trying to get some thoughts on Go-Games, which is being introduced for under 10 this  year in south armagh, has anyone any info on how well(or not) its working elsewhere,
and wat do the south armagh underage coaches think about it.

HOU - i teach across the border in Co.Louth and we use the Go games for all school competetions....I works excellently - gets everyone involved.....one touch one solo stops the good players from dominating....also another rule i like is that if a player if fouled - they take the free....speeds up the game....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 26, 2009, 12:36:11 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on March 26, 2009, 11:34:04 AM
Lads trying to get some thoughts on Go-Games, which is being introduced for under 10 this  year in south armagh, has anyone any info on how well(or not) its working elsewhere,
and wat do the south armagh underage coaches think about it.

I believe it was warmly welcomed in county down, might be worth posting on that thread as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on March 26, 2009, 12:42:21 PM
it was indeed corn, as stated by Real above, it gives the kids a real chance to get involved in the game, and means there are no players really dominating, as any kid who is maybe that bit bigger than others would do in those age groups.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on March 26, 2009, 03:39:37 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on March 26, 2009, 11:34:04 AM
Lads trying to get some thoughts on Go-Games, which is being introduced for under 10 this  year in south armagh, has anyone any info on how well(or not) its working elsewhere,
and wat do the south armagh underage coaches think about it.

Go Games is the way forward. It is a fantastic concept and serves to improve all those players who participate in it.

Just one thing though. Expect the bigger clubs to vent their distaste of it. In Down, quite a few of the larger clubs were up in arms about it as they felt that the whole competitiveness was being taken out of U-12 football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: apres_match on March 27, 2009, 09:53:00 AM
Heard last night that Killean have been pulled out of the Killeavy Sevens tournament, word is the powers that be didn't think it would be appropriate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on March 27, 2009, 10:03:15 AM
Quote from: apres_match on March 27, 2009, 09:53:00 AM
Heard last night that Killean have been pulled out of the Killeavy Sevens tournament, word is the powers that be didn't think it would be appropriate.

Why wouldnt it be appropriate?
They are a club in their own right now so are entitled to be there
Have they withdrawn or have they been kicked out?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on March 27, 2009, 10:27:19 AM
Is it not invitation only?

Would find it hard to believe they would get an invite, unless the Killeavy ones wanted to embarass their new rivals?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 27, 2009, 10:43:50 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on March 27, 2009, 10:27:19 AM
Is it not invitation only?

Would find it hard to believe they would get an invite, unless the Killeavy ones wanted to embarass their new rivals?

Killeavy are a fair enough club so they wouldn't invite them out of spite.

Fair play to Killean for the gesture, but I am sure it would be better if everyone just got on with football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on March 27, 2009, 10:48:54 AM
anyone know if the county players will be availbale for their clubs for the sevens?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on March 27, 2009, 10:49:06 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on March 27, 2009, 10:27:19 AM
Is it not invitation only?

Would find it hard to believe they would get an invite, unless the Killeavy ones wanted to embarass their new rivals?

The draws have already been made & Killean were in a group

Group A              
Clan na Gael      
Mullaghbawn      
Clann Eireann      
Shane O'Neill's      
Ballyhegan    

Group B
Killeavy
Dromintee
Whitecross
St Paul's
St Michael's, Killean

Group C
Pearse Og
Carrickruppen
Granemore
Belleek
Eire Og

Group D
Crossmaglen
St Patrick's
Madden
St Peter's
Middletown



Who withdrew them?
If it was Killean, they shouldnt have entered in the first place
If it is Killeavy it is a serious case of sour grapes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: apres_match on March 27, 2009, 11:02:50 AM
They were told that they wouldn't be competing as the standard would be too high to make it worthwhile. I think myself that the standard would be too high for them but after all, it's only a bit of craic and they would end up in Killeavy social having a drink like the rest of the teams. Don't think the Killean lads themselves are too happy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 27, 2009, 11:27:44 AM
Well i know there is a stag doo next weekend for a good few Clans guys so i wouldn't imagine them having a good team with them. Clans v Killean would have been a tight match had they been in the same group :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 27, 2009, 12:50:34 PM
Is that the famous Clans excuses coming out already! Grow up man its only a sevens tournament. Surely even the Clans can pull seven players together! ;D Yous c***ts love your stag weekends! I didnt even know that many of yous were married!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on March 27, 2009, 12:59:03 PM
it doesnt stop them though chief  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 27, 2009, 02:31:03 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on March 27, 2009, 12:50:34 PM
Is that the famous Clans excuses coming out already! Grow up man its only a sevens tournament. Surely even the Clans can pull seven players together! ;D Yous c***ts love your stag weekends! I didnt even know that many of yous were married!!

We don't even know the people who are getting married...just hear of one and gate crash it...lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 29, 2009, 02:38:47 AM
check out the rage that i am in because i will have to play in the killeavy sevens and miss the fooking stag >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


What more could a man ask for horse racing, drink and wenches ffs it's paradise. Up Killeavy/ St Killean
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on March 29, 2009, 09:52:29 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 29, 2009, 02:38:47 AM
check out the rage that i am in because i will have to play in the killeavy sevens and miss the fooking stag >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


What more could a man ask for horse racing, drink and wenches ffs it's paradise. Up Killeavy/ St Killean
In that order to lad. Angela
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 29, 2009, 12:00:14 PM
Correct saan. They say once you have rid a horse you won't go back :D :D ;)

Is the Armagh game on TnaG today lads?? Why is it in Cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 29, 2009, 02:23:48 PM
A question lads, the year Armagh were beaten in the All Ireland semi. The day Marsden scored the goal and Andy Mc Cann scored the goal. Did Marsden come off the bench that day or did he start????

Theres a deep sea diver in this one
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on March 29, 2009, 02:57:25 PM
I might take a reun  down to the Sevens to see Win play.  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on March 29, 2009, 04:39:25 PM
whats the standard of football like in the killeavy sevens? countyplayers are hardly playin??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 29, 2009, 05:02:54 PM
Corn you will see me alright lad i'll be doing all the scoring  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on March 29, 2009, 06:15:06 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 29, 2009, 02:23:48 PM
A question lads, the year Armagh were beaten in the All Ireland semi. The day Marsden scored the goal and Andy Mc Cann scored the goal. Did Marsden come off the bench that day or did he start????

Theres a deep sea diver in this one

He came of the bench in the first semi and started the second. Don't remember him scoring any goals that year as he missed most of it after getting injured against Fermanagh, though he scored one against Meath in the '99 semi.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 30, 2009, 05:00:27 PM
Lads would i be right in saying that there are no more Sundays free now until the league starts...I'll explain...next sat is the Killeavey 7's so the clubs playing in that will hardly play the next day...The following Sunday is Easter and Armagh is playing and the following Sunday from that is the start of the league!!!

So if you were looking a friendly it would have to be an early throw-in midweek or under the lights...

Just checking i have the dates right for the start of the league...!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on March 30, 2009, 05:07:35 PM
You could play a team thats not in the sevens this sunday coming, or play a team from outside the county. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 30, 2009, 05:34:14 PM
Quote from: gander on March 30, 2009, 05:07:35 PM
You could play a team thats not in the sevens this sunday coming, or play a team from outside the county. 

But we are playing in the 7's as well as most of the top teams in the county are too...!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the salmon of knowledge on March 31, 2009, 11:01:45 PM
ty to the lads who posted back to me re the ice baths. i went down to it hobbling from a sprained ankle and was able to play a match 4 days later, serious job for injury recovery, a real handy job to have in the county!! ty
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on April 01, 2009, 03:11:14 PM
I was Reading the IN yesterday and had a great wee chuckle reading the column about the referees.  Is there anybody hear going to be standing at the gates waiting on the bowl Mr Hearty for a meet and greet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 01, 2009, 03:26:22 PM
JC easy on there Punter...if memory serves me correctly your only back from a long ban ??? Looks like you'll not around for long again...lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 01, 2009, 03:29:06 PM
haven't seen this punter guy on here in a while i see he is still a slabber ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2009, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on April 01, 2009, 03:46:54 PM
No but your still an ogs sc**bag- probably married to your sister

:D did you ever tell us what club you were from by the way?  I'm sure they'd be proud of you
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 01, 2009, 03:53:55 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2009, 03:48:57 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on April 01, 2009, 03:46:54 PM
No but your still an ogs sc**bag- probably married to your sister

:D did you ever tell us what club you were from by the way?  I'm sure they'd be proud of you

Iam a crossmaglen man and proud off it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 01, 2009, 03:55:17 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 01, 2009, 03:26:22 PM
JC easy on there Punter...if memory serves me correctly your only back from a long ban ??? Looks like you'll not around for long again...lol


Its a wonder that you have crawled out of broken crossbars hole- i didnt know he let you speak by your self
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2009, 03:55:36 PM
Congratulations
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2009, 03:56:16 PM
p.s I wonder will you grow up now that you've become a full member
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 01, 2009, 04:09:53 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2009, 03:56:16 PM
p.s I wonder will you grow up now that you've become a full member

Iam hoping i can achieve hero status its one of my goals in life- except iam not a ginger civil (simple) servant like you with too much time on his hands
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on April 01, 2009, 04:10:07 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2009, 03:43:12 PM

p.s. I'm not ginger

who u kiddn??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2009, 04:15:56 PM
Aye right Hank, You could also vouch for the fact that I am not a Civil Servant  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The_geezer on April 01, 2009, 04:19:27 PM
i can confirm that you are ginger!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2009, 04:26:25 PM
I would have thought you'd be getting ready for the races by now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The_geezer on April 01, 2009, 04:31:13 PM
Ce ? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2009, 04:33:13 PM
Quote from: The_geezer on April 01, 2009, 04:31:13 PM
Ce ? ???

U know
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The_geezer on April 01, 2009, 04:34:36 PM
shouldnt you be preparing for the biggest battle of your life.!!! she is an almighty opponent!!lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2009, 04:40:28 PM
True True.  That Should be fun. 

Just make sure to ruin yourself on your Stag this weekend. I know you don't get out much
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The_geezer on April 01, 2009, 04:45:51 PM
back in your cage El Chervo!!! ur the new benny!! lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 01, 2009, 04:50:43 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on April 01, 2009, 03:55:17 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 01, 2009, 03:26:22 PM
JC easy on there Punter...if memory serves me correctly your only back from a long ban ??? Looks like you'll not around for long again...lol


Its a wonder that you have crawled out of broken crossbars hole- i didnt know he let you speak by your self

Well if your a Cross man i'm sure BC1 is well proud to have you at the Cross, as for hanging out of his hole i'd need to have some tool as he lives in Cork (or somewhere in that region). Anyway i'm more used to putting him on his hole ;)

Just you wait till Pints reads your posts...your history saan :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1stsub on April 01, 2009, 06:16:30 PM
what has the punter got against the ogs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 01, 2009, 08:55:30 PM
they beat us often enough without having to get sly digs in!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on April 01, 2009, 09:24:24 PM
if he's a Crossmaglen member he's certainly one that could be put in the "lesser intelligent" box in cross although i would be a bit cynical as to whether hes is from crossmaglen or not,
although im only new on here i know of one poster in the past who registered before and starting making the most ignorant idiotic and boastful statements pretending to be from crossmaglen to come across as a moron and blacken crosses name.
For him it was All in a bit of craic his comments could be taken with a pinch of salt he never fired personal insults at other posters.
This other gaapunter just seems to be a gobshite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 01, 2009, 11:03:14 PM
Welcome back punter, it's good to hear from you again, I thought you had forgotten about us.

He's not from Cross.  Both of us were warned by the mods a few months back, here is a PM from him to me on the back of the warning. 

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Whatever problem you have with me let me know, otherwise shut your f**king trap!

just dont like crossmaglen c***ts- simple as that- sure i will come up to cross and shut your trap **** not even  a problem
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Erwin Rommel on April 01, 2009, 11:34:26 PM
so gaapunter is back for anothr bitch slapping -  8)bring it on.

Hes a killeavey man through and through and got outed here on more than one occasion as he thouht Clans were good things fo the champinship and was looking to get on there band wagon.
woodn't be the brightest to be fair - but worth a few laughs (laugh at him I mean
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 01, 2009, 11:35:52 PM
Has to be the best example of someone getting hung out to dry well done BC. :D :D :D :D


Hard luck punter ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lecale2 on April 02, 2009, 09:09:54 AM
Lads could any of you give me directions to the Pearse Og pitch?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 02, 2009, 09:51:12 AM
Where are you travelling from?

If you are heading out of Armagh towards Killylea you take the first turn on the right after you pass mullacreevie estate (on the hill to the right). 

If you are heading out the Cathedral Road/Battleford Road from the 'shambles' in Armagh you take a left as you reach the outskirts of the town limits.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 02, 2009, 11:00:25 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 01, 2009, 11:03:14 PM
Welcome back punter, it's good to hear from you again, I thought you had forgotten about us.

He's not from Cross.  Both of us were warned by the mods a few months back, here is a PM from him to me on the back of the warning. 

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Whatever problem you have with me let me know, otherwise shut your f**king trap!

just dont like crossmaglen c***ts- simple as that- sure i will come up to cross and shut your trap **** not even  a problem
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 02, 2009, 11:33:52 AM
Very good Punter, you balloon. Go away and learn how to post and ask BC1 again is it not Cork he went too??? you said he pissed off to Cross you Muppet. Anyway I'm glad your back with us for a we while as the board was a bit boring there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 02, 2009, 11:34:15 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 01, 2009, 11:03:14 PM
Welcome back punter, it's good to hear from you again, I thought you had forgotten about us.

He's not from Cross.  Both of us were warned by the mods a few months back, here is a PM from him to me on the back of the warning. 

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Whatever problem you have with me let me know, otherwise shut your f**king trap!

just dont like crossmaglen c***ts- simple as that- sure i will come up to cross and shut your trap **** not even  a problem

Charming.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 02, 2009, 11:54:28 AM
To Punter - You say your from Cross and then give someone grief about marrying their own sister!! Pot kettle black my good friend!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 02, 2009, 12:22:31 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 02, 2009, 11:54:28 AM
To Punter - You say your from Cross and then give someone grief about marrying their own sister!! Pot kettle black my good friend!! ;D ;D ;D


Lets get one thing straight you are definitely no friend of mind- thank Christ- its only john Donaldson who dabbles in insest - the rest of us of good Catholics up here in Cross- and we are too buy winnning trophies- correct
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 02, 2009, 12:23:55 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 01, 2009, 11:35:52 PM
Has to be the best example of someone getting hung out to dry well done BC. :D :D :D :D


Hard luck punter ;) :D

you must have a wee notion for BC too winsamsoon - you Illdecide and BC what a threesome- you would be the filling in the sandwich lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 02, 2009, 12:25:25 PM
As the man would say you're worth the admission fee alone ;D

I think you actually replied to me somewhere in that garbled message.  I wouldn't be surprised who you are, and I would care even less!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 02, 2009, 12:30:47 PM
Sounds like you dont have many friends punter so im glad you have taken me off your list! Means ill be able to hang about with pints and corn and the lads!! ;D ;D (So you better not curse at me anymore or ill tell! ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 02, 2009, 12:31:33 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 02, 2009, 12:30:47 PM
Sounds like you dont have many friends punter so im glad you have taken me off your list! Means ill be able to hang about with pints and corn and the lads!! ;D ;D (So you better not curse at me anymore or ill tell! ;))

Pub?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 02, 2009, 12:46:50 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 02, 2009, 12:25:25 PM
As the man would say you're worth the admission fee alone ;D

I think you actually replied to me somewhere in that garbled message.  I wouldn't be surprised who you are, and I would care even less!

No Now BC put the dummy back in the pram Us Cross men have to stick togeather especially after our embarrassing defeat to a poor Crokes team and the fact that our glory days are behind us- Francie and the lads are AL done all we have to look forward is to a good fire and the crack in Ma Kearney's pub in cross- PS hows life in the legal profession??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 02, 2009, 12:48:37 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 02, 2009, 12:30:47 PM
Sounds like you dont have many friends punter so im glad you have taken me off your list! Means ill be able to hang about with pints and corn and the lads!! ;D ;D (So you better not curse at me anymore or ill tell! ;))

You were never on my list ivedecided- from what i know of you you arent on too many lists within your club- apart from the Ohagan clan to whom I believe you are a close relation- it all makes sense now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 02, 2009, 12:50:11 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on April 02, 2009, 12:46:50 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 02, 2009, 12:25:25 PM
As the man would say you're worth the admission fee alone ;D

I think you actually replied to me somewhere in that garbled message.  I wouldn't be surprised who you are, and I would care even less!

No Now BC put the dummy back in the pram Us Cross men have to stick togeather especially after our embarrassing defeat to a poor Crokes team and the fact that our glory days are behind us- Francie and the lads are AL done all we have to look forward is to a good fire and the crack in Ma Kearney's pub in cross- PS hows life in the legal profession??

You are defo from Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 02, 2009, 12:56:23 PM
About time we had a bit of action on the board... :D :D

Cross wans fighting with each other...IVEDECIDED is a half of an O Hagan and me and WINSAM in in with BC1 for a threesome... :D :D :D

and you even had time to call the Og's man a we ginger so & so :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 02, 2009, 01:07:30 PM
Couldnt agree more this is what life is all about!! f**k all that serious diplomatic bullshit discussion - lets have a verbal barny!!!! ;D ;D Welcome back punter you gobshite!! I know what list id put you on anyway. Schindler's f**king list!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 02, 2009, 01:40:54 PM
GaaPunter - Will you be at the Killeavey sevens tournament?  we could all meet up and have a nice wee yarn.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 02, 2009, 01:48:58 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 02, 2009, 01:40:54 PM
GaaPunter - Will you be at the Killeavey sevens tournament?  we could all meet up and have a nice wee yarn.

I will indeed El Queer- sure we won it last year- i have no probs meeting an ogs man- you may bring the clarke bros with you as you wouldnt  do much on your own
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 02, 2009, 01:53:19 PM
Good girl yourself.  I'll be the one in the Ogs colours with the ginger hair, holding my sisters hand.

you should bring a sign to identify yourself as a cretin
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 02, 2009, 02:11:42 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 02, 2009, 06:50:34 PM
Punter 3:14  :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1stsub on April 03, 2009, 08:57:26 AM
thats fighting talk punter! ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on April 03, 2009, 09:15:59 AM
'you should bring a sign to identify yourself as a cretin'

This guy identifies himself as a cretin every time he breathes (or posts)....why do you fellas even encourage him. It makes the forum a load of rubbush. He is about 15 - trying to act like his balls have dropped.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 03, 2009, 09:31:40 AM
The man has style no denying it!  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 03, 2009, 11:09:29 AM
Quote from: Scarface on April 03, 2009, 09:15:59 AM
'you should bring a sign to identify yourself as a cretin'

This guy identifies himself as a cretin every time he breathes (or posts)....why do you fellas even encourage him. It makes the forum a load of rubbush. He is about 15 - trying to act like his balls have dropped.


you want another scar on your face- cretin who uses that word
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 03, 2009, 11:23:48 AM
or punctuation?  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 03, 2009, 11:34:29 AM
Quote from: Scarface on April 03, 2009, 09:15:59 AM
'you should bring a sign to identify yourself as a cretin'

This guy identifies himself as a cretin every time he breathes (or posts)....why do you fellas even encourage him. It makes the forum a load of rubbush. He is about 15 - trying to act like his balls have dropped.


Ah come on man dont you turn into one of these cocks who cant have a bit of craic!! Its a piss take. If you cant handle banter or dont like someones posts then dont read them! I think a few lads on this board should go and join the Tory party discussion forum or some shit like that where yous will get all the proper, honest and gentlemanly debate yous all seem to crave!! >:( :( >:( 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 03, 2009, 11:45:25 AM
It's all a bit of craic after all. 

Gaapunter is probably away looking up the definition of 'cretin' by now.  He'll be back again tomorrow
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 03, 2009, 12:00:59 PM
Scór Dhá Scór !

Scór Ard Mhacha celebrates 40 years.

As part of Scór's 40th Anniversary celebrations, a showcase of Armagh Scór will be held

In

Silverbridge Resource Centre

on

Friday 3rd April at 8pm.

Entertainment throughout the night will be provided by various Scór artists, representative of the clubs in Armagh.

Ceili and Sets will follow, music by the Cathal McAnulty Ceili Band.

Admission is free and all are welcome.  Refreshments served.  Bar facilities available.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 03, 2009, 12:01:33 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 03, 2009, 11:45:25 AM
It's all a bit of craic after all. 

Gaapunter is probably away looking up the definition of 'cretin' by now.  He'll be back again tomorrow


Correct EL Queer - you have me sussed

1.  cretin  
A Person that is: brainless, stupid, child-like, and full of pointless information that makes no sense and appeals only to other cretins. They can be found in abundance in every single populated internet forum, where they race to post as many mind-numbing messages as possible in a single session. In addition, they seemingly interbreed with other cretins, ensuring that their cretinous genes continue long after they end up dead meaning the Internet will never be rid of their kind. More's the pity.  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 03, 2009, 12:05:49 PM
You do realise that it was you that was described as the cretin don't you?   :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 03, 2009, 12:33:03 PM
To Punter - Id say you wouldnt mind interbreeding with other cretins! A ride is a ride after all!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 03, 2009, 12:42:12 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 03, 2009, 12:33:03 PM
To Punter - Id say you wouldnt mind interbreeding with other cretins! A ride is a ride after all!  ;D


Correct Ivedecided I hear that Armagh city in particular is full of them- scumbags they are
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on April 03, 2009, 12:49:02 PM
 Have been away for a few days and its great to comeback to an intelligent debate on the state of the local gaa scene within the county :D

So who is GAAPUNTER?

Surely somebody knows his identity!!

As a journalist by trade it might be worth mentionin in the Portadown News  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 03, 2009, 12:53:56 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on April 03, 2009, 12:49:02 PM
Have been away for a few days and its great to comeback to an intelligent debate on the state of the local gaa scene within the county :D

So who is GAAPUNTER?

Surely somebody knows his identity!!

As a journalist by trade it might be worth mentionin in the Portadown News  :P

Punter's a journalist?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on April 03, 2009, 12:59:36 PM
 ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 03, 2009, 01:08:31 PM
Soory I totally misinterpreted your Portadown News comment.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 03, 2009, 01:14:33 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on April 03, 2009, 12:42:12 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 03, 2009, 12:33:03 PM
To Punter - Id say you wouldnt mind interbreeding with other cretins! A ride is a ride after all!  ;D


Correct Ivedecided I hear that Armagh city in particular is full of them- scumbags they are

You'd be safer reading over your comments before you post them.  Are you saying that you'd like a bit of interbreeding?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on April 03, 2009, 01:46:21 PM
Was Armagh Panel cut last night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 03, 2009, 02:47:57 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on April 03, 2009, 12:49:02 PM
Have been away for a few days and its great to comeback to an intelligent debate on the state of the local gaa scene within the county :D

So who is GAAPUNTER?

Surely somebody knows his identity!!

As a journalist by trade it might be worth mentionin in the Portadown News  :P


A journalist - you must have failed the old A Levels lad - hard luck someone has to write shite for a living
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on April 03, 2009, 03:11:24 PM
Least he gets paid for it, your doing it for free!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 03, 2009, 03:38:15 PM
Quote from: Joxer on April 03, 2009, 01:46:21 PM
Was Armagh Panel cut last night?

No, it wasn't cut yet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 03, 2009, 03:44:56 PM
Quote from: gander on April 03, 2009, 03:11:24 PM
Least he gets paid for it, your doing it for free!


Gander take your face for a walk this debate has feck all to do with you, I think you too must a Civil Servant
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on April 03, 2009, 03:46:26 PM
Has Paddy McKeever walked off the panel??
Orchard county had a few posters talkn about a row between him and another panelist at training?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on April 03, 2009, 03:50:25 PM
its a public forum, If I want to post I will.  And what has a civil servant have to do with it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 03, 2009, 03:54:31 PM
Quote from: gander on April 03, 2009, 03:50:25 PM
its a public forum, If I want to post I will.  And what has a civil servant have to do with it?

Its just like you sound like a loser/w**ker which must mean that you are a civil servant- correct
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on April 03, 2009, 03:55:15 PM
I think with the civil service thing, hes implying you have too much time on your hands...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 03, 2009, 04:05:49 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on April 03, 2009, 03:46:26 PM
Has Paddy McKeever walked off the panel??
Orchard county had a few posters talkn about a row between him and another panelist at training?!

Tell us more Hank
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on April 03, 2009, 04:05:58 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on April 03, 2009, 03:54:31 PM
Quote from: gander on April 03, 2009, 03:50:25 PM
its a public forum, If I want to post I will.  And what has a civil servant have to do with it?

Its just like you sound like a loser/w**ker which must mean that you are a civil servant- correct


You must be in the civil service too then so - correct
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on April 03, 2009, 04:51:24 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on April 03, 2009, 03:46:26 PM
Has Paddy McKeever walked off the panel??
Orchard county had a few posters talkn about a row between him and another panelist at training?!
That's not what was said on orchard county.  There was no row involving him or anyone else.  Suffice to say it's a personal thing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 03, 2009, 07:25:10 PM


Group A              
Clan na Gael      
Mullaghbawn      
Clann Eireann      
Shane O'Neill's      
Ballyhegan    

Group B
Killeavy
Dromintee
Whitecross
St Paul's
St Michael's, Killean

Group C
Pearse Og
Carrickruppen
Granemore
Belleek
Eire Og

Group D
Crossmaglen
St Patrick's Harps
Madden
St Peter's
Middletown


;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 03, 2009, 08:48:40 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on April 03, 2009, 03:46:26 PM
Has Paddy McKeever walked off the panel??
Orchard county had a few posters talkn about a row between him and another panelist at training?!


Paddy McKeever isnt fit to walk anywhere with that big duck ass of his! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 04, 2009, 02:20:36 PM
Didn;t make it down to the 7s but i'm told Killeavy, Cross firsts and Cross seconds have made the quarters anyway.

Dromintee won one (Whitecross) and lost two (Killeavy and Eire Og I think).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 04, 2009, 05:56:01 PM
Dromintee didn't win any the officials posted 3 different scores and they came up with a draw lol

Cross were into the final when i left and they were to meet the winners of Cruppen and whitecross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on April 04, 2009, 07:39:03 PM
Any final result of the Killeavy 7's?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on April 05, 2009, 11:14:26 AM
i think Cross won it by 20 points in the final,  thats a bit of a shock!! :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 05, 2009, 12:19:09 PM
That's 2 in a row. Could we ever make it to 13.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 05, 2009, 12:20:23 PM
Never mind who won it, who came second?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 05, 2009, 12:31:02 PM
It was either cruppen or whitecross i think that was an attempt at sarcasm from you pints (the old second best debate)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 05, 2009, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 05, 2009, 12:20:23 PM
Never mind who won it, who came second?

You still smarting from your idiotic comments froma few days back?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 05, 2009, 12:37:19 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 05, 2009, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 05, 2009, 12:20:23 PM
Never mind who won it, who came second?

You still smarting from your idiotic comments froma few days back?
I only asked a question ffs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 05, 2009, 01:19:58 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 05, 2009, 12:37:19 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 05, 2009, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 05, 2009, 12:20:23 PM
Never mind who won it, who came second?

You still smarting from your idiotic comments froma few days back?
I only asked a question ffs

Not a chance lad.

You were trying to go back to that stupid thing from last week when you imagined we were fighting over who was second best when we were actually discussing merits of different teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 05, 2009, 01:38:55 PM
Lad?  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on April 05, 2009, 01:40:26 PM
I hear Peadar Toal is no longer with the County Panel...

I also heard that he scored 0-10 against Crossmaglen in the 7s yesterday... Heard this in the club from an inebriated source, can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 05, 2009, 01:57:51 PM
What about Paddy McKeever? Is he off the paneL? he was at the 7s yesterday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 05, 2009, 02:23:54 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 05, 2009, 12:37:19 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 05, 2009, 12:35:38 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 05, 2009, 12:20:23 PM
Never mind who won it, who came second?

You still smarting from your idiotic comments froma few days back?
I only asked a question ffs

Hiya burke ;) :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 05, 2009, 06:45:20 PM
Quote from: nashville on April 05, 2009, 01:40:26 PM
I hear Peadar Toal is no longer with the County Panel... CORRECT

I also heard that he scored 0-10 against Crossmaglen in the 7s yesterday... CORRECTHeard this in the club from an inebriated source, can anyone confirm?

We beat Cross 0-13 to 1-7 and topped the group then got by by Cruppen 1-3 0-4 in the quarters. Although PT did hit the post twice when goals looked certain...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 06, 2009, 08:31:18 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 03, 2009, 08:48:40 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on April 03, 2009, 03:46:26 PM
Has Paddy McKeever walked off the panel??
Orchard county had a few posters talkn about a row between him and another panelist at training?!


Paddy McKeever isnt fit to walk anywhere with that big duck ass of his! ;D

Bet you wouldn't say that to his face!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on April 06, 2009, 10:40:23 AM
not a big fan of sevens tournaments to be honest. i suppose it would bring on the fitness of those involved but thats about it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 06, 2009, 10:44:59 AM
No davo there is a lot more to it than that. Shooting would have to be more accurate aswell as the nets are way smaller. Sure the pitch is smaller aswell but there is a lot of running involved as you are constantly on the go. Also retention of the ball possession is very important aswell as taking the scores at the proper times. There is also a lot of tactics involved by the better teams ie tactical subs. This is only further heightened by the confusion over the rules. I watched the Clann Eireann/ Whitecross game and the ref must have let Whitecross away with  back passes in their own half 6 times. Now with the wind that was there on saturday this could have been 6 scores. Also the changing over of subs the rule states that the batton must be changed at the half way line with a hand over. All day there were lads throwing the batton about 30 yards and running into a defensive or forward position depending on the position of the ball (ie cheating) or as some would see it taking advantage of the failure of the officials to implement the rules.

This sub rule used to be exploited years ago when you had the sub running on at either end and some lad just lumping balls up to them and they were one on one with the keeper. It was specifically changed to stop this but someone would need to tell the killeavy lads this and the refs at Killeavy sevens.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on April 06, 2009, 11:12:45 AM
What i am trying to say is that there are alot of teams who are extremely good at 7s tournaments but are poor when it comes to 15 on 15. They are totally separate which can be seen from some of the results in the 7s
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 06, 2009, 11:24:03 AM
Well thats a shay given, most clubs sent their best 7 players down!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 06, 2009, 05:07:29 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 06, 2009, 11:24:03 AM
Well thats a shay given, most clubs sent their best 7 players down!

Well Clans couldn't send their best players as they're weren't available due to other commitments.

What you should have said is: "clubs send their best 10 players available to them"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 06, 2009, 05:27:20 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 06, 2009, 05:07:29 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 06, 2009, 11:24:03 AM
Well thats a shay given, most clubs sent their best 7 players down!

Well Clans couldn't send their best players as they're weren't available due to other commitments.

What you should have said is: "clubs send their best 10 players available to them"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 07, 2009, 09:18:18 AM
Quote from: Candyman on April 05, 2009, 06:45:20 PM
Quote from: nashville on April 05, 2009, 01:40:26 PM
I hear Peadar Toal is no longer with the County Panel... CORRECT

I also heard that he scored 0-10 against Crossmaglen in the 7s yesterday... CORRECTHeard this in the club from an inebriated source, can anyone confirm?

We beat Cross 0-13 to 1-7 and topped the group then got by by Cruppen 1-3 0-4 in the quarters. Although PT did hit the post twice when goals looked certain...

Whats the story with Peadar Toal? why is he not on the panel anymore?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ArmaghGAAforum on April 07, 2009, 10:15:15 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 07, 2009, 09:18:18 AM
Quote from: Candyman on April 05, 2009, 06:45:20 PM
Quote from: nashville on April 05, 2009, 01:40:26 PM
I hear Peadar Toal is no longer with the County Panel... CORRECT

I also heard that he scored 0-10 against Crossmaglen in the 7s yesterday... CORRECTHeard this in the club from an inebriated source, can anyone confirm?

We beat Cross 0-13 to 1-7 and topped the group then got by by Cruppen 1-3 0-4 in the quarters. Although PT did hit the post twice when goals looked certain...

Whats the story with Peadar Toal? why is he not on the panel anymore?

he made the step up before and wasn't good enough.  big difference between club and county. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 07, 2009, 10:35:28 AM
Quote from: ArmaghGAAforum on April 07, 2009, 10:15:15 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 07, 2009, 09:18:18 AM
Quote from: Candyman on April 05, 2009, 06:45:20 PM
Quote from: nashville on April 05, 2009, 01:40:26 PM
I hear Peadar Toal is no longer with the County Panel... CORRECT

I also heard that he scored 0-10 against Crossmaglen in the 7s yesterday... CORRECTHeard this in the club from an inebriated source, can anyone confirm?

We beat Cross 0-13 to 1-7 and topped the group then got by by Cruppen 1-3 0-4 in the quarters. Although PT did hit the post twice when goals looked certain...

Whats the story with Peadar Toal? why is he not on the panel anymore?

he made the step up before and wasn't good enough.  big difference between club and county. 

Thats just it, he is good enough, i would have had him in the Half forward line on the 31st , i think he is a brilliant talent going to waste
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ArmaghGAAforum on April 07, 2009, 11:15:19 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 07, 2009, 10:35:28 AM
Quote from: ArmaghGAAforum on April 07, 2009, 10:15:15 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 07, 2009, 09:18:18 AM
Quote from: Candyman on April 05, 2009, 06:45:20 PM
Quote from: nashville on April 05, 2009, 01:40:26 PM
I hear Peadar Toal is no longer with the County Panel... CORRECT

I also heard that he scored 0-10 against Crossmaglen in the 7s yesterday... CORRECTHeard this in the club from an inebriated source, can anyone confirm?

We beat Cross 0-13 to 1-7 and topped the group then got by by Cruppen 1-3 0-4 in the quarters. Although PT did hit the post twice when goals looked certain...

Whats the story with Peadar Toal? why is he not on the panel anymore?

he made the step up before and wasn't good enough.  big difference between club and county. 

Thats just it, he is good enough, i would have had him in the Half forward line on the 31st , i think he is a brilliant talent going to waste

I beg to differ, although he did show potential, he never showed the consistency others have.  we can agree to disagree  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on April 07, 2009, 11:58:13 AM

I havn't got to see much club football in recent years so can only judge toal on county performances. have to say i've never seen the well hyped ability in a county jersey. neat and tidy with the ball certainly, and maybe the potential is there for more. there are quite a few better forwards there at the minute and obviously a whole lot more willing to put in the work.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on April 08, 2009, 11:00:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2V4qMq_XmY
Go to the 3 min mark on the youtube link, Kevin Dyas has been doing some serious weights. The man is a f**king tank now. Armagh could do with him at the minute.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 08, 2009, 11:27:18 AM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 08, 2009, 11:00:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2V4qMq_XmY
Go to the 3 min mark on the youtube link, Kevin Dyas has been doing some serious weights. The man is a f**king tank now. Armagh could do with him at the minute.

He's def filled out alright hope that bad hamstring injury he got last year doesn't come back. If memory serves me rightly didn't the hamstring tear right off from the bone??? Another one of them would finish the lad off but i'm sure he's getting the best off medical care and they'll not rush him back.

Good luck to the lad...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on April 08, 2009, 01:47:30 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 08, 2009, 11:00:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2V4qMq_XmY
Go to the 3 min mark on the youtube link, Kevin Dyas has been doing some serious weights. The man is a f**king tank now. Armagh could do with him at the minute.

Will have to get a look after work, youtube banned here, is he as big as you yet Jim?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: A Daintier Hero on April 08, 2009, 01:48:08 PM
More toned than big.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 08, 2009, 02:06:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 08, 2009, 11:00:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2V4qMq_XmY
Go to the 3 min mark on the youtube link, Kevin Dyas has been doing some serious weights. The man is a f**king tank now. Armagh could do with him at the minute.

Dyas never wears a top anymore. He just walks around Australia bare chested now, even in the snow.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on April 08, 2009, 02:12:52 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 08, 2009, 02:06:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 08, 2009, 11:00:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2V4qMq_XmY
Go to the 3 min mark on the youtube link, Kevin Dyas has been doing some serious weights. The man is a f**king tank now. Armagh could do with him at the minute.

Dyas never wears a top anymore. He just walks around Australia bare chested now, even in the snow.

Bit like your woman in Ayia Napa then!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 08, 2009, 02:22:19 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 08, 2009, 02:12:52 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 08, 2009, 02:06:15 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on April 08, 2009, 11:00:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2V4qMq_XmY
Go to the 3 min mark on the youtube link, Kevin Dyas has been doing some serious weights. The man is a f**king tank now. Armagh could do with him at the minute.

Dyas never wears a top anymore. He just walks around Australia bare chested now, even in the snow.

Bit like your woman in Ayia Napa then!  :D


Boom, boom!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 08, 2009, 03:41:14 PM
Lads could someone be kind enough to give me directions to Annaghmore's pitch from the Birches roundabout???

I'm going to PM an Anaghmore guy here too but incase he doesn't get back to me b4 this evening!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 08, 2009, 10:07:44 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 08, 2009, 03:41:14 PM
Lads could someone be kind enough to give me directions to Annaghmore's pitch from the Birches roundabout???

I'm going to PM an Anaghmore guy here too but incase he doesn't get back to me b4 this evening!!
Need a f**king GCSE to find it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on April 09, 2009, 12:23:27 AM
Bellew mcgrane and mckeever retired!

big miss this season!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 09, 2009, 07:40:13 AM
Raises Ballyhegan's hope in Division 2 though! (If McGrane is able to get back!)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 09, 2009, 09:26:03 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on April 09, 2009, 07:40:13 AM
Raises Ballyhegan's hope in Division 2 though! (If McGrane is able to get back!)

Goats your smiling like a basket of chips this morning with that news ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 09, 2009, 09:29:05 AM
Quote from: illdecide on April 09, 2009, 09:26:03 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on April 09, 2009, 07:40:13 AM
Raises Ballyhegan's hope in Division 2 though! (If McGrane is able to get back!)

Goats your smiling like a basket of chips this morning with that news ;)

I love seeing the lads play for Armagh, but Ballyhegan were pushing for Division 1 status a few years back... only we missed these 2 lads! A remarkable achievement that would have been for our wee club! We've still one panelist left though!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ArmaghGAAforum on April 09, 2009, 11:47:24 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on April 09, 2009, 07:40:13 AM
Raises Ballyhegan's hope in Division 2 though! (If McGrane is able to get back!)

some talented youngsters coming through to the seniors as well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Superstar on April 10, 2009, 08:18:08 AM
Sorry to hijack youre thread lads, but here goes:

Hi there folks,

With the championship just around the corner, from now on in you will see various fantasy football competitions springing up, myself and a few other memebrs of our club have taken it upon ourselves to run a competition of our own as a fundraiser. Hopefully we will get alot of interest in it, weve kept the entry fee reasonably low, its a pretty straight forward competition, all the rules, scoring chart, and player lists ect can be found on our website, so why not have a nosey at it. I hope when you are deciding upon which of the competitions available to enter you will give us a thought, we may not have a flashy website with all the graphics, but in entering this competition, you will be supporting one of youre very own clubs. If you have any queries about the competition you can email me at clannnabanna@hotmail.co.uk

To view the competition just log on to clannnabanna.down.gaa.ie and click on the competitions link

Many thanks, i hope we can look forward to youre support.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 10, 2009, 11:43:03 AM
Well lads just over a week to go till the start of the leagues...What are your realistic hopes for your team this year and who do you reckon will have their tails between their legs come the end of August...

Obviously Cross are gonna be massive favourites for both league and championship, as for relegation it will be a toss up between any number of about 5 clubs (my opinion)

There are some really good teams in Division 2 and with Harps being favourites to come up i reckon Maghery will join them although it would be no surprise to see a number of other teams coming through into 2nd place...relegation - Clann Eireann, Wolf Tones, Ballyhegan and Madden...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on April 10, 2009, 02:22:59 PM
With the season beginning in just over a week's time - who will be wearing the Bainisteoir Bib for your club?

ACL – Division One
Carrickcruppen Jim Loughran
Clan na Gael  - Gerard Skelton & Enda Brady
Crossmaglen - Donal Murtagh
Culloville -Malachy Watters
Dromintee - Colin Kelly
Killeavey - David Reilly
Mullaghbawn - Joe McNulty
Pearse Og - Brendan Hughes.
St Patrick's - Joe Mallon
Sarsfields - Kieran McGurk

ACL – Division Two
Ballyhegan - Jim McAlinden
Ballymacnab - Jerome Johnston
Clann Eireann - Shane McConville?
Granemore - John Toner
Harps - Nudie Hughes
Madden- John Carson
Maghery - Jimbo Robinson
St Michael's - Kelly O'Rourke
Silverbridge - Bernard Connolly & Kevin Byrne
Tir na nÓg - Aiden Farrell
Whitecross - Killian Finnegan
Wolfe Tone - Michael Magill

ACL – Division Three
Annaghmore - Aiden McGahan
An Port Mor - Peter Bayne
Belleek - Martin Smyth
Clonmore - Ronan Murphy
Collegeland - Niall Gorman
Keady - John Toal
Lissummon - Robert Wilson
Middletown -
St Paul's -
St Peter's -
Shane O'Neill's - Davey O'Brien
Tullysaran - Audi Hamiliton

ACL – Division Four
Clady -
Corrinshego - Ronan McAlinden
Crossmaglen II -
Derrynoose -
Dorsey Emmett's Barry Loughran
Eire Og -
Forkhill - Fintan Burns/Thomas McDonnell
Grange -Colm Toal, Tam Gribben & James O'Hagan
Mullaghbrack -
O'Hanlon's- Ronan Maginnis
Phelim Brady's -
Killean- Seamus Faloon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 10, 2009, 02:29:08 PM
Kelly O'Rourke?

Will this be his first year there?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 10, 2009, 02:41:12 PM
My Predictions... for what it's worth:

Div I
Champions - Cross
Relegation - Sarsfields & Clans

Div II
Champions - Harps
Promotion - Maghery
Relegation - Wolf Tones & Clans

Div III
Champions - Keady
Promotion - Collegeland
Relegation - 'Saren & Shanes

Div IV
Champions - Cross
Promotion - Grange

Didn't mean to be so hard on the Lurgan sides!  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 03:19:03 PM
QuoteThere are some really good teams in Division 2 and with Harps being favourites to come up i reckon Maghery will join them although it would be no surprise to see a number of other teams coming through into 2nd place...relegation - Clann Eireann, Wolf Tones, Ballyhegan and Madden...

I'm sorry to say I think we'll be battling at the wrong end of divison 2 also  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on April 10, 2009, 04:32:28 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 03:19:03 PM
QuoteThere are some really good teams in Division 2 and with Harps being favourites to come up i reckon Maghery will join them although it would be no surprise to see a number of other teams coming through into 2nd place...relegation - Clann Eireann, Wolf Tones, Ballyhegan and Madden...

I'm sorry to say I think we'll be battling at the wrong end of divison 2 also  :-\

y would you say tat pints..bridge beat a full strength mullabawn team last nite by 4points and the bridge wit 9 players missin.so things lookin good for the bridge..new trainer john rath has the bridge in great shape compare 2 last few years..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 04:38:21 PM
Just think we'll have too many missing, but I'll be delighted to be proved wrong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on April 10, 2009, 05:21:02 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 04:38:21 PM
Just think we'll have too many missing, but I'll be delighted to be proved wrong.
we need the likes of pete mc creesh and gerry mc gavery back and mc evoy there a big miss..was lookin at last nites game mullabawn never look like beatin the bridge
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 10, 2009, 05:27:51 PM
While there are teams like Tones, Clann Eireann, madden and Ballyhegan in Div 2 Silverbridge will never be in any danger...Ballyhegan without McGrane (knee injury) and Courtney will struggle to stay in the division.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on April 10, 2009, 05:34:25 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 10, 2009, 05:27:51 PM
While there are teams like Tones, Clann Eireann, madden and Ballyhegan in Div 2 Silverbridge will never be in any danger...Ballyhegan without McGrane (knee injury) and Courtney will struggle to stay in the division.
well said illdecide..was up at silverbridge club on tuesday nite seen marsden given trainin drills 2all underage managers he put on a good show..is he doin ne thing wit clans this year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 05:37:28 PM
Hope you're right legs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on April 10, 2009, 05:49:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 05:37:28 PM
Hope you're right legs.
i think the bridge will be playin this year jus 2 stay up pints. i know wat ur sayin but the bridge will do well wit wat they have left.i counted 10players missin from the team tat played cullovile last year in the semi final would i be rite pints.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 07:01:26 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 10, 2009, 05:49:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 05:37:28 PM
Hope you're right legs.
i think the bridge will be playin this year jus 2 stay up pints. i know wat ur sayin but the bridge will do well wit wat they have left.i counted 10players missin from the team tat played cullovile last year in the semi final would i be rite pints.
Probably so, who's all in Australia now, McCann, two Reels, Connolly, Maguire, think I'm missing someone?
Then with McEvoy, McGarvey and McCreesh out, that's 7 that would have played against culloville?  Who's the other 3 you're thinking of?
It'll be tough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 10, 2009, 07:16:07 PM
think theres around 10-13 odd players gone from the Clans squad that played Cross last year in SFC.. Long year ahead!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 10, 2009, 11:37:42 PM
I was at that game and from that display none of them will be too much of a miss!! ;D Yeah from what I hear the Clans are in a rebuillding phase now that will prob take a few years. Its the view of several of my sources that this should aready be in progress two years. The powers that be in Francis street held on too long to big name players in the hope of squeezing a championship out which has been to the detriment of their youth development.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: A Daintier Hero on April 11, 2009, 09:55:05 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 07:01:26 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 10, 2009, 05:49:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 05:37:28 PM
Hope you're right legs.
i think the bridge will be playin this year jus 2 stay up pints. i know wat ur sayin but the bridge will do well wit wat they have left.i counted 10players missin from the team tat played cullovile last year in the semi final would i be rite pints.
Probably so, who's all in Australia now, McCann, two Reels, Connolly, Maguire, think I'm missing someone?
Then with McEvoy, McGarvey and McCreesh out, that's 7 that would have played against culloville?  Who's the other 3 you're thinking of?
It'll be tough.


Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 10, 2009, 07:16:07 PM
think theres around 10-13 odd players gone from the Clans squad that played Cross last year in SFC.. Long year ahead!


Getting the excuses in good and early lads!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 11, 2009, 10:17:11 AM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 10, 2009, 05:34:25 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 10, 2009, 05:27:51 PM
While there are teams like Tones, Clann Eireann, madden and Ballyhegan in Div 2 Silverbridge will never be in any danger...Ballyhegan without McGrane (knee injury) and Courtney will struggle to stay in the division.
well said illdecide..was up at silverbridge club on tuesday nite seen marsden given trainin drills 2all underage managers he put on a good show..is he doin ne thing wit clans this year

No not a thing as far as i'm aware...Well with doing courses like he just done with Silverbridge and many more clubs he probably couldn't commit to anything with the Clans
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on April 11, 2009, 04:02:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 07:01:26 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 10, 2009, 05:49:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 05:37:28 PM
Hope you're right legs.
i think the bridge will be playin this year jus 2 stay up pints. i know wat ur sayin but the bridge will do well wit wat they have left.i counted 10players missin from the team tat played cullovile last year in the semi final would i be rite pints.
Probably so, who's all in Australia now, McCann, two Reels, Connolly, Maguire, think I'm missing someone?
Then with McEvoy, McGarvey and McCreesh out, that's 7 that would have played against culloville?  Who's the other 3 you're thinking of?
It'll be tough.
kenny campbell b bellew and colin hughes not playin this year either.thats 9 who played last year tat wont be playin this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on April 11, 2009, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: A Daintier Hero on April 11, 2009, 09:55:05 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 07:01:26 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 10, 2009, 05:49:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 05:37:28 PM
Hope you're right legs.
i think the bridge will be playin this year jus 2 stay up pints. i know wat ur sayin but the bridge will do well wit wat they have left.i counted 10players missin from the team tat played cullovile last year in the semi final would i be rite pints.
Probably so, who's all in Australia now, McCann, two Reels, Connolly, Maguire, think I'm missing someone?
Then with McEvoy, McGarvey and McCreesh out, that's 7 that would have played against culloville?  Who's the other 3 you're thinking of?
It'll be tough.


Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 10, 2009, 07:16:07 PM
think theres around 10-13 odd players gone from the Clans squad that played Cross last year in SFC.. Long year ahead!


Getting the excuses in good and early lads!
no excuses its just facts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on April 11, 2009, 04:07:38 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 10, 2009, 07:16:07 PM
think theres around 10-13 odd players gone from the Clans squad that played Cross last year in SFC.. Long year ahead!
how come so many fitz.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: A Daintier Hero on April 11, 2009, 04:10:26 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 11, 2009, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: A Daintier Hero on April 11, 2009, 09:55:05 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 07:01:26 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 10, 2009, 05:49:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 05:37:28 PM
Hope you're right legs.
i think the bridge will be playin this year jus 2 stay up pints. i know wat ur sayin but the bridge will do well wit wat they have left.i counted 10players missin from the team tat played cullovile last year in the semi final would i be rite pints.
Probably so, who's all in Australia now, McCann, two Reels, Connolly, Maguire, think I'm missing someone?
Then with McEvoy, McGarvey and McCreesh out, that's 7 that would have played against culloville?  Who's the other 3 you're thinking of?
It'll be tough.


Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 10, 2009, 07:16:07 PM
think theres around 10-13 odd players gone from the Clans squad that played Cross last year in SFC.. Long year ahead!


Getting the excuses in good and early lads!
no excuses its just facts.

Alright Rafa...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 11, 2009, 04:22:07 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 11, 2009, 04:02:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 07:01:26 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 10, 2009, 05:49:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 05:37:28 PM
Hope you're right legs.
i think the bridge will be playin this year jus 2 stay up pints. i know wat ur sayin but the bridge will do well wit wat they have left.i counted 10players missin from the team tat played cullovile last year in the semi final would i be rite pints.
Probably so, who's all in Australia now, McCann, two Reels, Connolly, Maguire, think I'm missing someone?
Then with McEvoy, McGarvey and McCreesh out, that's 7 that would have played against culloville?  Who's the other 3 you're thinking of?
It'll be tough.
kenny campbell b bellew and colin hughes not playin this year either.thats 9 who played last year tat wont be playin this year.
Great  :-\
It'll be a long year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on April 11, 2009, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: A Daintier Hero on April 11, 2009, 04:10:26 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 11, 2009, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: A Daintier Hero on April 11, 2009, 09:55:05 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 07:01:26 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 10, 2009, 05:49:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 05:37:28 PM
Hope you're right legs.
i think the bridge will be playin this year jus 2 stay up pints. i know wat ur sayin but the bridge will do well wit wat they have left.i counted 10players missin from the team tat played cullovile last year in the semi final would i be rite pints.
Probably so, who's all in Australia now, McCann, two Reels, Connolly, Maguire, think I'm missing someone?
Then with McEvoy, McGarvey and McCreesh out, that's 7 that would have played against culloville?  Who's the other 3 you're thinking of?
It'll be tough.


Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 10, 2009, 07:16:07 PM
think theres around 10-13 odd players gone from the Clans squad that played Cross last year in SFC.. Long year ahead!


Getting the excuses in good and early lads!
no excuses its just facts.

Alright Rafa...
Me not Rafa ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on April 11, 2009, 06:43:50 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 11, 2009, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: A Daintier Hero on April 11, 2009, 04:10:26 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 11, 2009, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: A Daintier Hero on April 11, 2009, 09:55:05 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 07:01:26 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 10, 2009, 05:49:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 05:37:28 PM
Hope you're right legs.
i think the bridge will be playin this year jus 2 stay up pints. i know wat ur sayin but the bridge will do well wit wat they have left.i counted 10players missin from the team tat played cullovile last year in the semi final would i be rite pints.
Probably so, who's all in Australia now, McCann, two Reels, Connolly, Maguire, think I'm missing someone?
Then with McEvoy, McGarvey and McCreesh out, that's 7 that would have played against culloville?  Who's the other 3 you're thinking of?
It'll be tough.


Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 10, 2009, 07:16:07 PM
think theres around 10-13 odd players gone from the Clans squad that played Cross last year in SFC.. Long year ahead!


Getting the excuses in good and early lads!
no excuses its just facts.

Alright Rafa...
Me not Rafa ::)

You no speaky English either apparently.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on April 11, 2009, 09:49:04 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 11, 2009, 06:43:50 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 11, 2009, 04:36:12 PM
Quote from: A Daintier Hero on April 11, 2009, 04:10:26 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 11, 2009, 04:04:01 PM
Quote from: A Daintier Hero on April 11, 2009, 09:55:05 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 07:01:26 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 10, 2009, 05:49:00 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 05:37:28 PM
Hope you're right legs.
i think the bridge will be playin this year jus 2 stay up pints. i know wat ur sayin but the bridge will do well wit wat they have left.i counted 10players missin from the team tat played cullovile last year in the semi final would i be rite pints.
Probably so, who's all in Australia now, McCann, two Reels, Connolly, Maguire, think I'm missing someone?
Then with McEvoy, McGarvey and McCreesh out, that's 7 that would have played against culloville?  Who's the other 3 you're thinking of?
It'll be tough.


Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 10, 2009, 07:16:07 PM
think theres around 10-13 odd players gone from the Clans squad that played Cross last year in SFC.. Long year ahead!


Getting the excuses in good and early lads!
no excuses its just facts.

Alright Rafa...
Me not Rafa ::)

You no speaky English either apparently.
ME not understand wat you mean :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 14, 2009, 01:29:18 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 10, 2009, 11:43:03 AM
Well lads just over a week to go till the start of the leagues...What are your realistic hopes for your team this year and who do you reckon will have their tails between their legs come the end of August...

Obviously Cross are gonna be massive favourites for both league and championship, as for relegation it will be a toss up between any number of about 5 clubs (my opinion)

There are some really good teams in Division 2 and with Harps being favourites to come up i reckon Maghery will join them although it would be no surprise to see a number of other teams coming through into 2nd place...relegation - Clann Eireann, Wolf Tones, Ballyhegan and Madden...

would agree that harps and maghery the teams to stop in division 2.  agree with the 4 teams possibly go down.  i thought the tones a cert to go down after speaking with some of the players, but i have saw 3 friendlies over the past few weeks and are improving well.  few boys who retired initially are back to give the defence some much needed experience and some of the minor players seem to be much more confident this year and are making the step up.  think we can get a good run in championship only team would be fearful of be sarsfields, who will hopefully be lacking in confidence as they be up in div 1 this season and will find points hard to come by
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 14, 2009, 02:06:32 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on April 11, 2009, 04:07:38 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 10, 2009, 07:16:07 PM
think theres around 10-13 odd players gone from the Clans squad that played Cross last year in SFC.. Long year ahead!
how come so many fitz.
retirements mainly though included in that number are a few players who could make a return. imperative we get a win on sun.
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 14, 2009, 01:29:18 PM
would agree that harps and maghery the teams to stop in division 2.  agree with the 4 teams possibly go down.  i thought the tones a cert to go down after speaking with some of the players, but i have saw 3 friendlies over the past few weeks and are improving well.  few boys who retired initially are back to give the defence some much needed experience and some of the minor players seem to be much more confident this year and are making the step up.  think we can get a good run in championship only team would be fearful of be sarsfields, who will hopefully be lacking in confidence as they be up in div 1 this season and will find points hard to come by
I'd say the tones will cope alright seen them once this year albeit missing a stack of players but they seemed well drilled and should finish well enough to avoid the drop. reports that maghery are flying in pre-season so expecting a swift return to div1, can't look past the harps either with portadown darkhorses to go up in second place. Theres a handful of teams from div1 that could make the drop, better off stating the teams that def won't go down - Cross, Ogs, Killeavy & Pats
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 15, 2009, 09:54:48 AM
To tell you the truth i put the Tones in that catagorey simply because i knew a few lads had not returned from last year but over the last few days i have heard promising reports coming from Derrymacash and that a few of the old rear guard had returned and training had picked up. so on that basis they may well stay clear of those other 2 teams i selected for relegation...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on April 15, 2009, 12:39:53 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 10, 2009, 03:19:03 PM
QuoteThere are some really good teams in Division 2 and with Harps being favourites to come up i reckon Maghery will join them although it would be no surprise to see a number of other teams coming through into 2nd place...relegation - Clann Eireann, Wolf Tones, Ballyhegan and Madden...

I'm sorry to say I think we'll be battling at the wrong end of divison 2 also  :-\



Typical pessimism that has ruined us over the years
If you ask me we will be just fine in division 2 this and we are hoping to give championship a fair crack
we are going well in training Rath has us sharp with a good discipline and attitude. A good bite has come into training in the last few weeks
if anything theres less rows and drama at training this year than i have experienced in previous years with certain characters missing to and with new management in place.
Disappointing to be missing a few players like Hughes and McGarvey but we cat dwell on it
When we get C Mcavoy back in he will be a big plus and we have yet to get a first choice 15 on the pitch

Your not the only Silverbridge poster on this board POG and more to the point within the club and particularly within the players that read this board your not really appreciated
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 15, 2009, 01:30:59 PM
I think too much of the club to go toe to toe with you SR.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on April 15, 2009, 01:39:27 PM
Im not calling you out POG
But when theres discussion within the club and in the brief craic before and after trainings of "who that gobshite POG is"
and you are only discussed within your club in a negative light you cant make statements about caring to much about the club
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 15, 2009, 01:43:03 PM
I'm not calling you out either, it was a figure of speech. 
Accusing me of negative comments doesnt wash, you accused me of it before and I asked you to tell me what Id said you were annoyed about and you didn't answer.  I know why you've got a problem.  But lets leave it there, we are on a public forum.
If you want to continue you're welcome to pm me. 

thanks

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on April 15, 2009, 02:00:46 PM
i know what i challenged you over but i wasnt goin to go trawling through pages of what was said previously on the board to quote you on it and i didnt get back to you on it. But the person talked about there is a mate and i remember you were quick to slate him before.....
Just telling you your anonymous posts and opinions are not appreciated too much within the club you "think too much of"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 15, 2009, 05:04:17 PM
Breaking News...Pints joins local rivals "St Pats, Cullyhanna" as bitter internal feud within the Bridge continues... ;) ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on April 15, 2009, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 15, 2009, 05:04:17 PM
Breaking News...Pints joins local rivals "St Pats, Cullyhanna" as bitter internal feud within the Bridge continues... ;) ;D

Doubt if anyone would take him :D Maybe Birmigham Sean MacDermotts ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 16, 2009, 08:11:14 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 15, 2009, 01:43:03 PM
I'm not calling you out either, it was a figure of speech. 
Accusing me of negative comments doesnt wash, you accused me of it before and I asked you to tell me what Id said you were annoyed about and you didn't answer.  I know why you've got a problem.  But lets leave it there, we are on a public forum.
If you want to continue you're welcome to pm me. 

thanks


think pints defends the brige on alot of occassions and is only giving his opinion on how they will fair out this year..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 16, 2009, 08:26:10 PM
very quiet on here lads with the weekend fixtures!?  anyone post a full round of fixtures?cheers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 16, 2009, 09:58:43 PM
just for u charles

Sunday 19th April
ACL – Div. I
Clan na Gael v Carrickcruppen
Crossmaglen v St.Patrick's
Culloville v Pearse Og
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn
Killeavey v Sarsfields
ACL – Div. II
Ballyhegan v Clann Eireann
Tir na nÓg v Armagh Harps
St.Michael's v Maghery
Madden v Silverbridge
Granemore v Whitecross
Wolfe Tone v Ballymacnab
ACL – Div. III
Annaghmore v Clonmore
St Peter's v Keady
An Port Mor v Middletown
Lissummon v St Paul's
Collegeland v Shane O'Neill's
Tullysaran v Belleek
ACL – Div. IV
Clady v Corrinshego
Mullaghbrack v Dorsey Emmett's
Grange v Forkhill
Eire Og v Killean
Derrynoose v O'Hanlon's
Phelim Brady's v Crossmaglen II
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 16, 2009, 10:07:59 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 16, 2009, 09:58:43 PM
just for u charles

Sunday 19th April
ACL – Div. I
Clan na Gael v Carrickcruppen
Crossmaglen v St.Patrick's
Culloville v Pearse Og
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn
Killeavey v Sarsfields
ACL – Div. II
Ballyhegan v Clann Eireann
Tir na nÓg v Armagh Harps
St.Michael's v Maghery
Madden v Silverbridge
Granemore v Whitecross
Wolfe Tone v Ballymacnab
ACL – Div. III
Annaghmore v Clonmore
St Peter's v Keady
An Port Mor v Middletown
Lissummon v St Paul's
Collegeland v Shane O'Neill's
Tullysaran v Belleek
ACL – Div. IV
Clady v Corrinshego
Mullaghbrack v Dorsey Emmett's
Grange v Forkhill
Eire Og v Killean
Derrynoose v O'Hanlon's
Phelim Brady's v Crossmaglen II
cheers fitzroyalty
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 16, 2009, 10:24:28 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 16, 2009, 09:58:43 PM
just for u charles

Sunday 19th April
ACL – Div. I
Clan na Gael v Carrickcruppen-clans will be eager to win games like these inorder to finish around midtable in a year of transition.  home adv to count clans by 3
Crossmaglen v St.Patrick's-a daunting first game for pats on their return to div 1.  i think they will more than compete this year but cant look past the champions cross by 6
Culloville v Pearse Og-culloville could be a team involved in the relegation mix this year and will be hoping to mount a serious championship challenge.  will expect to pick most of their points up at home but think they willl find ogs 2 strong with county men available.  ogs by 2
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn-dromintee should win this one due to a greater scoring threat.  think 'bawn could be close to the bottom this year.  dromintee by 4
Killeavey v Sarsfields- a match that sarsfields will hope to get something from.  their main aim to be survival and win the intermediate.  killeavey could push for top 4 this year.  sarsfields to start this year the same as last on the wrong end of a 3 point deficit
ACL – Div. II
Ballyhegan v Clann Eireann- 2 teams that may well struggle in div 2.  if mckeever/mcgrane able to play a large number of games could make the diff 4 bhegan.  clann eireamnn will try and make the most of having the scoring prowess of henderson before the cship.  splinters in the ass draw
Tir na nÓg v Armagh Harps-arguably the game of the day in div 2.  tirnanog possibly 3rd favourites for promotion and will be looking to go one better this year.  harps will be expected for a swift return to the 1st.  harps by the minimum
St.Michael's v Maghery-tough opener by maghery also.  newtown made a good late push last.  an interesting battle between two young armagh men with eye for goal in orourke and forker.  maghery by 4
Madden v Silverbridge-madden be buoyed by promotion and getting to u21 final last year.  the bridge alot of men down this year and inconsistent at the best of times.  bit of a shock madden by 2
Granemore v Whitecross-interesting game.  difficult to predict what these teams will do.  granemore often promise much and deliver not so much!  whitecross easily survived last year after a terrible start and will hope to kick on from this.  home adv to swing it in granemores favour.  hosts by 2
Wolfe Tone v Ballymacnab
ACL – Div. III
Annaghmore v Clonmore-annaghmore
St Peter's v Keady-keady
An Port Mor v Middletown-an port mor
Lissummon v St Paul's-lissummon
Collegeland v Shane O'Neill's-cland
Tullysaran v Belleek-saran
ACL – Div. IV
Clady v Corrinshego-clady
Mullaghbrack v Dorsey Emmett's-mullabrack
Grange v Forkhill-grange
Eire Og v Killean-eire og
Derrynoose v O'Hanlon's-noose
Phelim Brady's v Crossmaglen II-croos2nds
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 16, 2009, 10:28:52 PM
4got the most important game tones v the nab! ;)  4 weeks ago the general consensus around the tones would have been a 6 point defeat plus.  some encouraging wins in friendlies return of players from injury/retirement makes me more confident.  winning this fixture by 7 last year at h/t beat by 7 i hope we have learned!  good record on opening day havent lost in 8 years!tones by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: aroundincircles on April 16, 2009, 10:30:30 PM
is connor greene retired charlie??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 17, 2009, 12:13:52 AM
Charlie

St Pat's are not returning to Division 1. We finished 3rd last year. Looking forward to the match on Sunday. Are throw ins 2pm or 2 30pm. Obviously we'll be huge underdogs but hopefully we can at least get closer to Rangers than we managed last year. Does anybody know how long the clubs will have the county men for? Should be at least until the weekend of the 9th / 10th May I would have thought.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 17, 2009, 09:36:01 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 17, 2009, 12:13:52 AM
Charlie

St Pat's are not returning to Division 1. We finished 3rd last year. Looking forward to the match on Sunday. Are throw ins 2pm or 2 30pm. Obviously we'll be huge underdogs but hopefully we can at least get closer to Rangers than we managed last year. Does anybody know how long the clubs will have the county men for? Should be at least until the weekend of the 9th / 10th May I would have thought.

Noticed that we mistake myself...st Pats are now an established Div 1 team. The throw in's are 2:30 and the county men usually have a 14 day rule regarding county and club football although it's not cast in stone so i'd say they'll be with the club's up untill the 17th but they will still be training with the county and if the lads in question don't want to risk any injury playing for the club he or McDonnell may well ask them back sooner
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: celtic on April 17, 2009, 11:33:19 AM
surprised that there is no one talking about the U21 match on wednesday. there is def a good few footballers on that team. Pity about the management, made some harsh decisions in regards to taking players off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 17, 2009, 11:49:41 AM
Quote from: celtic on April 17, 2009, 11:33:19 AM
surprised that there is no one talking about the U21 match on wednesday. there is def a good few footballers on that team. Pity about the management, made some harsh decisions in regards to taking players off.

Thats because it's on another thread in the GAA Section...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: celtic on April 17, 2009, 12:41:04 PM
didn notice it earlier, cheers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 17, 2009, 04:20:26 PM
Quote from: aroundincircles on April 16, 2009, 10:30:30 PM
is connor greene retired charlie??

yes he is retired.  talented player but so frustrating gets the ball straight in front of the posts and then toe taps it and throws aload of dummies then tries score from impossible angles.  i think alot of the other forwards will benefit this year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 17, 2009, 04:22:27 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 17, 2009, 12:13:52 AM
Charlie

St Pat's are not returning to Division 1. We finished 3rd last year. Looking forward to the match on Sunday. Are throw ins 2pm or 2 30pm. Obviously we'll be huge underdogs but hopefully we can at least get closer to Rangers than we managed last year. Does anybody know how long the clubs will have the county men for? Should be at least until the weekend of the 9th / 10th May I would have thought.

apologies tam, forgot that cruppen and sarsfields went up the only time i saw pats was against sarsfields in the semi final last year!!shouldnt be aloud to type late at night!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 17, 2009, 04:23:25 PM
So why have the throw in times changed from the usual time of 2 bells to 2:30
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on April 17, 2009, 06:00:18 PM
QuoteDoes anybody know how long the clubs will have the county men for?

They may have them for most of the summer, 2007 style.

QuoteSo why have the throw in times changed from the usual time of 2 bells to 2:30

To let you finish your dinner.  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 17, 2009, 11:45:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 17, 2009, 04:23:25 PM
So why have the throw in times changed from the usual time of 2 bells to 2:30

Orchardcounty.com and Aertel both have the throw ins down as 2pm. Orchardcounty in particular is usually reliable.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 18, 2009, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 17, 2009, 11:45:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 17, 2009, 04:23:25 PM
So why have the throw in times changed from the usual time of 2 bells to 2:30

Orchardcounty.com and Aertel both have the throw ins down as 2pm. Orchardcounty in particular is usually reliable.

Well i'd say they're right then as i only assumed the time from the time we were told to be down for the match...Sorry for any confusion lads...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 18, 2009, 12:59:13 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 17, 2009, 11:45:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 17, 2009, 04:23:25 PM
So why have the throw in times changed from the usual time of 2 bells to 2:30

Orchardcounty.com and Aertel both have the throw ins down as 2pm. Orchardcounty in particular is usually reliable.

Dromintee game is at six.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 18, 2009, 01:10:20 PM
Any games last night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on April 18, 2009, 03:15:26 PM
according to orchardcounty middletown beat pormor
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Redhandfan on April 18, 2009, 04:25:48 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on April 18, 2009, 03:15:26 PM
according to orchardcounty middletown beat pormor

Middletown had ten or eleven points to spare over a very young and inexperienced An Port Mor side last night in Division 3. The Port Mor team was severely depleted for their league opener on home soil, fielding several of their minor side and other fringe players due to a spate of injuries, retirements and suspensions.  The final scoreline flattered Middletown a bit as the sides were level (0-4 to 0-4) early in the second half.  The visitors were also helped by some erratic refereeing during those final thirty minutes, winning a number of handy frees close to goal and being awarded a very dubious penalty which knocked the heart out of An Port Mor's challenge.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 19, 2009, 03:47:35 PM
wolfe tones 1-9 ballymacnab 0-12

nab played with wind in the first half went in nine six up at halftime.  we where awarded a dubious penalty for an off the ball incident which was put away by chris mcalinden, ref tried to even it up after that imo.  gave few soft frees for nab toward end and looked to be trying to get a draw.  best for tones was chris mccarron young minor playing at corner back
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 19, 2009, 03:48:35 PM
Cross beat St Pat's 0-12 to 0-8. Lovely day for football. Cross seem to have lost a brave percentage of their support since their last match. Must be the increased journey and higher ticket prices.

St Pat's applied themselves well and tried their best but a fairly strong Cross side were always comfortable enough. Cross went 4-0 up in the early stages and never surrended the lead. Cullyhanna struglled for scores in the first half though SHane McKeever got one fine point and Mal Mackin also got another point from play. St Pat's tried to play a lot of diagonal balls towards the corner forward but struggled to create many scoring chances. Our old failing of lacking an real attacking threat surfaced again. Too many defensive minded players in the forward line. Kieran Hoey improved matters when he came on

Things improved early in the second half - Kieran O'Neill came on and did well, scoring one fine point. At 0-7 to 0-5 it looked like we had a chance but Cross pulled away again. Best on the day for St Pat's were Mal Mackin, Eamon McArdle and Kieran O'Neill during his brief second half appearance before being taken off injured.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 19, 2009, 03:51:32 PM
Clans drew with Cruppin at Davitt Park. Not 100% on the exact scoreline but i think it was something like 0-12 to 1-09
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on April 19, 2009, 03:59:19 PM
Harps beat Portadown, think the score was 1-11 to 0-10, ..........they made hard work of it though!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 19, 2009, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 19, 2009, 03:51:32 PM
Clans drew with Cruppin at Davitt Park. Not 100% on the exact scoreline but i think it was something like 0-12 to 1-09

u happy enough with that result illdecide or more disappointed?you have many younger lads playing?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 19, 2009, 04:12:37 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 19, 2009, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 19, 2009, 03:51:32 PM
Clans drew with Cruppin at Davitt Park. Not 100% on the exact scoreline but i think it was something like 0-12 to 1-09

u happy enough with that result illdecide or more disappointed?you have many younger lads playing?
Just back from match, clans imo should have closed the game, 8-3 (3frees) up at half time, then 30 seconds from throw in cruppen got a soft enough goal and from then on had thier tails up. from that perspective i would be disappointed but to be fair to cruppen they did all the attacking in 2nd half so a draw is maybe a fair result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 19, 2009, 04:59:34 PM
Og's and Cullaville play out a draw as well.....any word from Killeavey / Sarsfields?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 19, 2009, 05:01:51 PM
Killeavy won
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 19, 2009, 05:20:50 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 19, 2009, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 19, 2009, 03:51:32 PM
Clans drew with Cruppin at Davitt Park. Not 100% on the exact scoreline but i think it was something like 0-12 to 1-09

u happy enough with that result illdecide or more disappointed?you have many younger lads playing?

There were plenty of young guys playing today and thats only a good thing for the future but there are 2 or 3 passengers on the team at the minute but i don't really wanna discuss that matter. I am disapointed with the result in a way as i feel a few subtle changes could have made a we difference but as Fitz pointed out we could very well have lost it too so i suppose 1 point is better than none...

There seems have been a right few draws today...

P.S. the referee was good today and had a decent game...(Malachy McNicholl)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 19, 2009, 05:27:58 PM
where is dromintee game at might call down!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on April 19, 2009, 05:29:47 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 19, 2009, 05:27:58 PM
where is dromintee game at might call down!?

Dromintee are at home
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 19, 2009, 05:37:27 PM
ta!i'm off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 19, 2009, 06:22:52 PM
Quote from: Harpo on April 19, 2009, 03:59:19 PM
Harps beat Portadown, think the score was 1-11 to 0-10, ..........they made hard work of it though!!!
Nervy error-strewn performance for Harps.  Dooley Martin didn't have a great game as ref, man sent off on each side and both could complain I suppose.  Peadar Toal got sent off for Harps for a fairly soft challenge, the Portadown man he tackled (McDonald) looked a bit embarrassed as Peadar got the line, if it had have been any other Harps man he probably would have gotten a yellow.  Best for Harps probably Charlie, Nippy and Simon Lennon - who had a great game after coming back from a year or more out with injury. 

The Portadown #15 was a right wee skite, tried to get about 3 different men sent off, got a yellow for his diving late on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 19, 2009, 06:53:31 PM
Madden beat the 'bridge by around 5 or 6, something like that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 19, 2009, 07:34:03 PM
Dromintee won by four - Shane Carroll with the only goal.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on April 19, 2009, 07:41:51 PM
madden 2-10 ( 1-3 to the ref) Bridge 0-12
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on April 19, 2009, 07:45:41 PM
Keady beat St Peter's by 10 points to 4 - both teams had penalties saved!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rattle-the-net on April 19, 2009, 07:46:57 PM
Was at the cruppin game, poor first half from a cruppin point of view... clans should have seen it out but to be fair to cruppin they came right out at the start of the second half and never stopped!! cruppen missed a free right at the end for the win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 19, 2009, 07:55:49 PM
Both Mullaghabwn and Dromintee were strong in defense but up front the both lacked scoring power minus Micheal O'Rourke and John Ferris.....

Strong Dromintee team selected Other than Shane O'Neill and MOR missing 2nite, would there be anybody else pushin in2 their 1st choice 15 Corn?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on April 19, 2009, 08:09:15 PM
I thought Dromintee did alright up front against a Mullaghbane side that put 11-12 men behind the ball and at times were hard to break down. Dromintee missed a few scoring chances so the lead should have been more. There only ever looked to be one winner in this one.

Dromintee 1-08 Mullaghbane 0-07
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 19, 2009, 09:12:53 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 19, 2009, 05:20:50 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 19, 2009, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 19, 2009, 03:51:32 PM
Clans drew with Cruppin at Davitt Park. Not 100% on the exact scoreline but i think it was something like 0-12 to 1-09

u happy enough with that result illdecide or more disappointed?you have many younger lads playing?

There were plenty of young guys playing today and thats only a good thing for the future but there are 2 or 3 passengers on the team at the minute but i don't really wanna discuss that matter. I am disapointed with the result in a way as i feel a few subtle changes could have made a we difference but as Fitz pointed out we could very well have lost it too so i suppose 1 point is better than none...

There seems have been a right few draws today...

P.S. the referee was good today and had a decent game...(Malachy McNicholl)

malachy mcnicholl?? you must have been among the clans men drinking on the side of the field?? the referee was dessie mcdonnell. and yes from a clans perspective he had a great game.

anyway, we had a shite first half and done a lot better in the second so a draw was a fair result even though we had a chance to win it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 19, 2009, 09:38:29 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on April 19, 2009, 07:55:49 PM
Both Mullaghabwn and Dromintee were strong in defense but up front the both lacked scoring power minus Micheal O'Rourke and John Ferris.....

Strong Dromintee team selected Other than Shane O'Neill and MOR missing 2nite, would there be anybody else pushin in2 their 1st choice 15 Corn?

Would be close enough Real. Ronin McCoy is out all year and he would have started but, other than that, it would have been close enough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on April 19, 2009, 10:01:22 PM
QuoteCross seem to have lost a brave percentage of their support since their last match. Must be the increased journey and higher ticket prices.

Nothing to do with the quality of the opposition, I suppose?
Mind you there was a fair few at Longford where the opposition wasn't wonderful.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 19, 2009, 11:07:03 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on April 19, 2009, 09:12:53 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 19, 2009, 05:20:50 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 19, 2009, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 19, 2009, 03:51:32 PM
Clans drew with Cruppin at Davitt Park. Not 100% on the exact scoreline but i think it was something like 0-12 to 1-09

u happy enough with that result illdecide or more disappointed?you have many younger lads playing?

There were plenty of young guys playing today and thats only a good thing for the future but there are 2 or 3 passengers on the team at the minute but i don't really wanna discuss that matter. I am disapointed with the result in a way as i feel a few subtle changes could have made a we difference but as Fitz pointed out we could very well have lost it too so i suppose 1 point is better than none...

There seems have been a right few draws today...

P.S. the referee was good today and had a decent game...(Malachy McNicholl)

malachy mcnicholl?? you must have been among the clans men drinking on the side of the field?? the referee was dessie mcdonnell. and yes from a clans perspective he had a great game.

anyway, we had a shite first half and done a lot better in the second so a draw was a fair result even though we had a chance to win it.

:D :D :D :D :-[ :-[ Sorry about that...wrong name. Yes Dessie McDonnell had a good game and in fairness he didn't really have any big calls to make, the game was poor enough which was all about 1st half to Clans and the 2nd to Cruppin.

I sesnsed a we bit of sarcasim there about the ref favouring the Clans ??? TBH i thought he got most decisions right for both teams and the only problem i have with the refeering in Armagh in general is your not allowed to touch your opponent now and its a free kick. We played a friendly there last Thursday night and a hurling referee done the match and the tackling and hitting he allowed was 10 times that of the Armagh refeering.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on April 20, 2009, 09:04:24 AM
ARMAGH ACL RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 19 APRIL 2009

Thursday 16 April
ACL – Div. IV
Mullaghbrack 0-7; Dorsey Emmett's 1-11

Friday 17 April
ACL – Div. III
An Port Mor 0-7; Middletown 2-12

Saturday 18 April
Feile Semi-finals
Grange 1-11; St Paul's 1-8
Pearse Og 1-6; Silverbridge 3-12

Sunday 19 April
ACL – Div. I
Clan na Gael 0-13; Carrickcruppen 1-10
Crossmaglen 0-12; St Patrick's 0-8
Culloville 2-6; Pearse Og 1-9
Killeavy 1-13; Sarsfields 0-12
Dromintee 1-8; Mullaghbawn 0-7
ACL – Div. II
Ballyhegan 0-13; Clann Eireann 0-15
Tir na nÓg 0-10; Harps 1-11
St Michael's 1-7; Maghery 1-14
Madden 2-10; Silverbridge 0-12
Granemore 0-9; Whitecross 1-13
Wolfe Tone 1-9; Ballymacnab 0-12
ACL – Div. III
Annaghmore 0-9; Clonmore 1-10
St Peter's 0-5; Keady 0-12
Lissummon 0-6; St Paul's 1-9
Collegeland 0-10; Shane O'Neill's 1-13
Tullysaran 0-12; Belleek 1-11
ACL – Div. IV
Clady 1-9; Corrinshego 2-11
Grange 3-7; Forkhill 3-8
Eire Og 2-20; Killean 0-0
Derrynoose 1-8; O'Hanlon's 0-9
Phelim Brady's 0-5; Crossmaglen II 0-22
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 20, 2009, 09:08:25 AM
QuoteBallyhegan 0-13; Clann Eireann 0-15

Ballyhegan beaten at home by Clann Eireann by 2 points.

Clanns midfield did a lot of damage running at the Ballyhegan defence. They created an overlap with each attack & their quick interchanges & efficient shooting meant they led from start to finish.

Ballyhegan played a more direct style of football, with long balls into a small full forward line, which wasn't working. Paddy McKeever then moved into full forward to create a target. He proved very difficult to handle winning almost every ball that came into him, even though he was double marked. However some wayward shooting in both halves, & a fine save from the Clanns keeper, from a one on one from Paddy Marley near the end, left the Lurgan side with the 2 points.

With Paul McGrane, Paul Courtney & a few others to come back, the Davitts forward line should improve in the weeks ahead.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 20, 2009, 09:11:10 AM
QuoteEire Og 2-20; Killean 0-0

Holy jasas!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on April 20, 2009, 09:29:18 AM
Made a trip up to watch the ogs culloville game. you could tell that it was the first match of the season. Culloville's first score was a goal with the ogs taking time to get in to the game. once they got going they dominated possession with gerard mccoy chris rafferty and kieran hughes, who scored i think 1,1 getting through a mountain of work. it was 1,5 to 1.5 at half time.

same story as last year for the ogs not being able to convert all their possession into scores. hit an unbelievable amount of wides from open play and from free kicks. ronan clarke also missed a penalty.

in the second half the ogs were winning by a point but with 10 minutes to go culloville scored 1,1 putting them 3 up. for the last 10 all the play was in the culloville half as the ogs pushed forward. they scored 3 points to level it. then with last kick of game culloville got a free about 40 metres out to sneak a win but this was put wide.

The ogs will need to improve their shooting and get a free kick taker if they are to do anything this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on April 20, 2009, 10:46:43 AM
St Hughies off to a good start,

Ollie Hearty training them is showing prospect already.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on April 20, 2009, 11:14:27 AM
Saying I had nothing to do on a glorious Sunday evening,  I decided to make the trip down to Dromintee to see what was on offfer and from the first throw in there was onlt one winner.

Mullaghbawn are a poor poor side and surely are in contention for relegation this year.  Nearly all of their points were from placed balls and never looked a threat from open play.  The thing about Mullaghbawn is they drag any decent team down to their level.   I think in the second half Dromintee were 6 or 7 points up and I looked at the Mullaghbawn defence and they still had three forwards sitting back.  If Dromintee had of taken half their chances they would have been coasting at half time and would have won it easier than they did.

Was impressed with M O'Rourke yesterday and the number 15 played rightly also.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 20, 2009, 11:31:29 AM
From what I hear the bawn are struggling. Was at the Clans game and dont agree with illdecide that it was a poor game. I thoroughly enjoyed it and it was exiting at the end when both temas could have won or lost it. For the first game it wasnt bad at all. The Clans look very young and to be honest if Cruppen have any intentions of staying up they will be concerned that such a young Clans team dominated them so easily for 30 mins.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 20, 2009, 11:37:17 AM
Quote from: Off The Fence on April 20, 2009, 11:14:27 AM
  If Dromintee had of taken half their chances they would have been coasting at half time and would have won it easier than they did.


Uusally our problem. Relying on Michael too much for scores. Shane Carroll should add a lot this year and the youngest of the ONeill brothers is going to be a great footballer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 20, 2009, 11:47:52 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 20, 2009, 11:31:29 AM
From what I hear the bawn are struggling. Was at the Clans game and dont agree with illdecide that it was a poor game. I thoroughly enjoyed it and it was exiting at the end when both temas could have won or lost it. For the first game it wasnt bad at all. The Clans look very young and to be honest if Cruppen have any intentions of staying up they will be concerned that such a young Clans team dominated them so easily for 30 mins.

Well saan maybe poor was a bit strong but i just thought the game lacked intensity and there was no hard hitting in the game, with the young lads the clans had out it must give them a bit of belief for the rest of the season as they did show character to come back after Cruppin had taken the lead. If they can get something from next weekends game against Sarsfields it would def set them up for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 20, 2009, 01:18:17 PM
Quote from: Off The Fence on April 20, 2009, 11:14:27 AM
Saying I had nothing to do on a glorious Sunday evening,  I decided to make the trip down to Dromintee to see what was on offfer and from the first throw in there was onlt one winner.

Mullaghbawn are a poor poor side and surely are in contention for relegation this year.  Nearly all of their points were from placed balls and never looked a threat from open play.  The thing about Mullaghbawn is they drag any decent team down to their level.   I think in the second half Dromintee were 6 or 7 points up and I looked at the Mullaghbawn defence and they still had three forwards sitting back.  If Dromintee had of taken half their chances they would have been coasting at half time and would have won it easier than they did.

Was impressed with M O'Rourke yesterday and the number 15 played rightly also.
Likewise, was heading that direction yday and I eventually made it to 2nd half, would agree mullabawn will probably struggle, especially against some of the faster running teams in the division. physicallity isn't an issue but all they do is work it to midfield and then lump it into an isolated forward line, which more often than not Dromintee were able to mop up. I only saw the second half and to be fair mullabawn hit a few wides that could have made the scoreline closer. You say the bawn drag teams down to their level, id call it playing to their strengths  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 20, 2009, 06:07:55 PM
Quote from: Off The Fence on April 20, 2009, 11:14:27 AM

Mullaghbawn are a poor poor side and surely are in contention for relegation this year.  Nearly all of their points were from placed balls and never looked a threat from open play.  The thing about Mullaghbawn is they drag any decent team down to their level.   I think in the second half Dromintee were 6 or 7 points up and I looked at the Mullaghbawn defence and they still had three forwards sitting back.  If Dromintee had of taken half their chances they would have been coasting at half time and would have won it easier than they did.


Bit early for relagating us yet Off the fence...Time will tell that story though.....

I am not doubting the matter that we are weak in the forwards line...its our big problem always was...Two of our most gifted forwards were missing yesterday...Eugene McVerry and Paul Kelly so when they return that should add a little scoring power......Our defense could hold there own with most teams to be fair...but they loss of Mark Quinn to Oz added to our two broken leg victims from last year who are unable to play this yearleaves us with a panel with not a great deal of depthl......One positive point however was Enda back yesterday, he did quite well when introduced
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 20, 2009, 06:10:04 PM
Clans game was probably a decent enough game to watch as it was exciting. A draw was probably a fair result  in the end but the clans should have been 10 or 12 points up at half time. They wasted several good goal chances and hit a few easy wides from frees. Cruppen lifted the intensity in the second half when they were playing with the breeze and into the club house. Dessie done ok in the middle until the last ten minutes when he gave Cruppen absolutely everything At one stage there was actually a clans player thrown out over the line and he gave a sideline ball to cruppen. He also gave cruppen a fould because a clans man had swiped at the ball as the cruppen man when down to pick it up (granted this was a foul but the cruppen man had the chance to pick the ball up simply because he had kicked it out of the hands of a clans man) He gave a free for something that wasn't a free 4 seconds earlier. Also gave  cruppen a point when their man caught the ball and his momentum took him over the line. Dessie awarded a free for a push. But a draw was probably a fair result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on April 20, 2009, 06:23:15 PM
Kieran McKeever named new Armagh Captain

No suprise really
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 20, 2009, 08:33:41 PM
St Pat's beat Silverbridge 4-14 to 1-7 in the minor league tonight.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 20, 2009, 11:37:51 PM
PINTS will now stop supporting Armagh :D :D :D I think Mc Keever is the best candidate for the job good luck to the lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on April 21, 2009, 09:47:22 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 20, 2009, 11:31:29 AM
From what I hear the bawn are struggling. Was at the Clans game and dont agree with illdecide that it was a poor game. I thoroughly enjoyed it and it was exiting at the end when both temas could have won or lost it. For the first game it wasnt bad at all. The Clans look very young and to be honest if Cruppen have any intentions of staying up they will be concerned that such a young Clans team dominated them so easily for 30 mins.
heard the cruppen side last night and it sounded very young as well, a lot of the u-21s playing with  their best player peter loughran injured .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on April 21, 2009, 12:08:33 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 20, 2009, 06:10:04 PM
Clans game was probably a decent enough game to watch as it was exciting. A draw was probably a fair result  in the end but the clans should have been 10 or 12 points up at half time. They wasted several good goal chances and hit a few easy wides from frees. Cruppen lifted the intensity in the second half when they were playing with the breeze and into the club house. Dessie done ok in the middle until the last ten minutes when he gave Cruppen absolutely everything At one stage there was actually a clans player thrown out over the line and he gave a sideline ball to cruppen. He also gave cruppen a fould because a clans man had swiped at the ball as the cruppen man when down to pick it up (granted this was a foul but the cruppen man had the chance to pick the ball up simply because he had kicked it out of the hands of a clans man) He gave a free for something that wasn't a free 4 seconds earlier. Also gave  cruppen a point when their man caught the ball and his momentum took him over the line. Dessie awarded a free for a push. But a draw was probably a fair result.

I thought most wides were easy to hit  ;D.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 21, 2009, 12:10:50 PM
Any word on the county panel being cut at the week end... ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 21, 2009, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: the scenic route on April 21, 2009, 12:08:33 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 20, 2009, 06:10:04 PM
Clans game was probably a decent enough game to watch as it was exciting. A draw was probably a fair result  in the end but the clans should have been 10 or 12 points up at half time. They wasted several good goal chances and hit a few easy wides from frees. Cruppen lifted the intensity in the second half when they were playing with the breeze and into the club house. Dessie done ok in the middle until the last ten minutes when he gave Cruppen absolutely everything At one stage there was actually a clans player thrown out over the line and he gave a sideline ball to cruppen. He also gave cruppen a fould because a clans man had swiped at the ball as the cruppen man when down to pick it up (granted this was a foul but the cruppen man had the chance to pick the ball up simply because he had kicked it out of the hands of a clans man) He gave a free for something that wasn't a free 4 seconds earlier. Also gave  cruppen a point when their man caught the ball and his momentum took him over the line. Dessie awarded a free for a push. But a draw was probably a fair result.

I thought most wides were easy to hit  ;D.


You have the potential to be another ballbag, either that or you have a sad life.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 21, 2009, 02:04:14 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 21, 2009, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: the scenic route on April 21, 2009, 12:08:33 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 20, 2009, 06:10:04 PM
Clans game was probably a decent enough game to watch as it was exciting. A draw was probably a fair result  in the end but the clans should have been 10 or 12 points up at half time. They wasted several good goal chances and hit a few easy wides from frees. Cruppen lifted the intensity in the second half when they were playing with the breeze and into the club house. Dessie done ok in the middle until the last ten minutes when he gave Cruppen absolutely everything At one stage there was actually a clans player thrown out over the line and he gave a sideline ball to cruppen. He also gave cruppen a fould because a clans man had swiped at the ball as the cruppen man when down to pick it up (granted this was a foul but the cruppen man had the chance to pick the ball up simply because he had kicked it out of the hands of a clans man) He gave a free for something that wasn't a free 4 seconds earlier. Also gave  cruppen a point when their man caught the ball and his momentum took him over the line. Dessie awarded a free for a push. But a draw was probably a fair result.

I thought most wides were easy to hit  ;D.


You have the potential to be another ballbag, either that or you have a sad life.

And there is enough of them on here winsam ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cillsleibhe on April 21, 2009, 02:41:23 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on April 20, 2009, 09:11:10 AM
QuoteEire Og 2-20; Killean 0-0

Holy jasas!

Did you notice this score was omitted from the Irish News on Monday?  Did you also notice that the official county website and Aertel text have the result listed as Eire Og beat Killean? 

Surely there is not a conspiracy of silence to save the blushes of a certain well-known sponsor?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 21, 2009, 02:59:16 PM
I noticed that. its not unusuall, county board have done it before, we put 11 goals past clann eireann in a reserve game last year and it wasn't published, neither was their u21 result v cruppen where they were also stuffed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on April 21, 2009, 03:41:31 PM
Quote from: full back on April 21, 2009, 02:04:14 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 21, 2009, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: the scenic route on April 21, 2009, 12:08:33 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 20, 2009, 06:10:04 PM
Clans game was probably a decent enough game to watch as it was exciting. A draw was probably a fair result  in the end but the clans should have been 10 or 12 points up at half time. They wasted several good goal chances and hit a few easy wides from frees. Cruppen lifted the intensity in the second half when they were playing with the breeze and into the club house. Dessie done ok in the middle until the last ten minutes when he gave Cruppen absolutely everything At one stage there was actually a clans player thrown out over the line and he gave a sideline ball to cruppen. He also gave cruppen a fould because a clans man had swiped at the ball as the cruppen man when down to pick it up (granted this was a foul but the cruppen man had the chance to pick the ball up simply because he had kicked it out of the hands of a clans man) He gave a free for something that wasn't a free 4 seconds earlier. Also gave  cruppen a point when their man caught the ball and his momentum took him over the line. Dessie awarded a free for a push. But a draw was probably a fair result.

I thought most wides were easy to hit  ;D.


You have the potential to be another ballbag, either that or you have a sad life.

And there is enough of them on here winsam ;)

DIdnt realise such offence would be caused out of harmlessness from complete boredom on a tuesday afternoon
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 21, 2009, 04:35:54 PM

Goo result for dromintee sunday evening against mullaghbawn. played some great stuff in the first half and a 3 point lead should really have been at least 7 or 8. mullaghbawn made it very difficult in the second half with all the me behind the ball but the goal was the clincher. good performances from vincy martin, aidan o'rourke, cathal o'neill, shane carroll and particularly micheal o'rourke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 21, 2009, 04:52:14 PM
Quote from: cillsleibhe on April 21, 2009, 02:41:23 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on April 20, 2009, 09:11:10 AM
QuoteEire Og 2-20; Killean 0-0

Holy jasas!

Did you notice this score was omitted from the Irish News on Monday?  Did you also notice that the official county website and Aertel text have the result listed as Eire Og beat Killean? 

Surely there is not a conspiracy of silence to save the blushes of a certain well-known sponsor?


The first Killeavy man on the board?

Possibly and it wouldn't surprise me, but it is a practice that has been going on for years CillSleibhe.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 21, 2009, 10:49:28 PM
Quote from: the scenic route on April 21, 2009, 03:41:31 PM
Quote from: full back on April 21, 2009, 02:04:14 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 21, 2009, 02:03:25 PM
Quote from: the scenic route on April 21, 2009, 12:08:33 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 20, 2009, 06:10:04 PM
Clans game was probably a decent enough game to watch as it was exciting. A draw was probably a fair result  in the end but the clans should have been 10 or 12 points up at half time. They wasted several good goal chances and hit a few easy wides from frees. Cruppen lifted the intensity in the second half when they were playing with the breeze and into the club house. Dessie done ok in the middle until the last ten minutes when he gave Cruppen absolutely everything At one stage there was actually a clans player thrown out over the line and he gave a sideline ball to cruppen. He also gave cruppen a fould because a clans man had swiped at the ball as the cruppen man when down to pick it up (granted this was a foul but the cruppen man had the chance to pick the ball up simply because he had kicked it out of the hands of a clans man) He gave a free for something that wasn't a free 4 seconds earlier. Also gave  cruppen a point when their man caught the ball and his momentum took him over the line. Dessie awarded a free for a push. But a draw was probably a fair result.

I thought most wides were easy to hit  ;D.


You have the potential to be another ballbag, either that or you have a sad life.

And there is enough of them on here winsam ;)

DIdnt realise such offence would be caused out of harmlessness from complete boredom on a tuesday afternoon

I will forgive you just this once ;) oh and full back you watch yourself saan ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on April 21, 2009, 11:08:47 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 21, 2009, 04:52:14 PM
Quote from: cillsleibhe on April 21, 2009, 02:41:23 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on April 20, 2009, 09:11:10 AM
QuoteEire Og 2-20; Killean 0-0

Holy jasas!

Did you notice this score was omitted from the Irish News on Monday?  Did you also notice that the official county website and Aertel text have the result listed as Eire Og beat Killean? 

Surely there is not a conspiracy of silence to save the blushes of a certain well-known sponsor?


The first Killeavy man on the board?

Possibly and it wouldn't surprise me, but it is a practice that has been going on for years CillSleibhe.

For the past 5 or so years in Down, the results of Aughlisnafin matches in Division 4 were not truthfully published. Usually a more respectable score was inserted instead.

Its bad aul craic trying to disguise results in my opinion.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on April 22, 2009, 01:18:59 PM
anyone any idea what time are the B games due for throw in this evening namely the bridge killeavy one
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T O Hare on April 22, 2009, 01:27:32 PM
Quote from: Joxer on April 20, 2009, 06:23:15 PM
Kieran McKeever named new Armagh Captain

No suprise really

Thought Stevie or Clarke would have got it!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on April 22, 2009, 01:36:07 PM
Wednesday 22 April
Mid Armagh 'B' League (7.00)
Ballyhegan v Ballymacnab (M McNicholl)
Harps v An Port Mor (J Slevin)
Tullysaran v Collegeland (K Gallogly)
Middletown v Madden (P Boylan)
Granemore v Ceide (P Rath)
Derrynoose v Pearse Og (N Martin)
North Armagh 'B' League (7.00)
St Peter's v Tir na nÓg (D McConville)
Eire Og v St Paul's (B McCormick)
Sarsfields v St Mary's (L McNeice)
Clann Eireann v Annaghmore (S Murray)
Maghery v Wolfe Tone (M Leonard)
South Armagh 'B' League (7.00)
Crossmaglen v Culloville (R Quigley)
Dromintee v Carrickcruppen (P Hughes)
Lissummon v Mullaghbawn (J Lynch)
Silverbridge v Killeavy (V O'Neill)
St Patrick's v Whitecross (S McKinley)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 01:53:53 PM
Tbf should have picked a captain that won't get sent off and miss a pile of matches, disgracing the county in the process.

Only my opinion though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2009, 01:55:41 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on April 22, 2009, 01:36:07 PM
Wednesday 22 April
Mid Armagh 'B' League (7.00)
Ballyhegan v Ballymacnab (M McNicholl)
Harps v An Port Mor (J Slevin)
Tullysaran v Collegeland (K Gallogly)
Middletown v Madden (P Boylan)
Granemore v Ceide (P Rath)
Derrynoose v Pearse Og (N Martin)
North Armagh 'B' League (7.00)
St Peter's v Tir na nÓg (D McConville)
Eire Og v St Paul's (B McCormick)
Sarsfields v St Mary's (L McNeice)
Clann Eireann v Annaghmore (S Murray)
Maghery v Wolfe Tone (M Leonard)
South Armagh 'B' League (7.00)
Crossmaglen v Culloville (R Quigley)
Dromintee v Carrickcruppen (P Hughes)
Lissummon v Mullaghbawn (J Lynch)
Silverbridge v Killeavy (V O'Neill)
St Patrick's v Whitecross (S McKinley)


Examiner says the South Armagh matches are at 7 15pm. Not sure which is right.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2009, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 01:53:53 PM
Tbf should have picked a captain that won't get sent off and miss a pile of matches, disgracing the county in the process.

Only my opinion though.

Remind me when Ciaran last got a red card for Armagh ONL?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2009, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 01:53:53 PM
Tbf should have picked a captain that won't get sent off and miss a pile of matches, disgracing the county in the process.

Only my opinion though.

Remind me when Ciaran last got a red card for Armagh ONL?

Why do you not watch your county?? Should have had one against Monaghan anyway, was at that match... I suspect he gets let off with these incidents every match he plays, and it all gets brushed under the rug...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 22, 2009, 02:02:52 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2009, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 01:53:53 PM
Tbf should have picked a captain that won't get sent off and miss a pile of matches, disgracing the county in the process.

Only my opinion though.

Remind me when Ciaran last got a red card for Armagh ONL?

McKeever did not recive a yellow card in last year's Championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 02:03:39 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 22, 2009, 02:02:52 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2009, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 01:53:53 PM
Tbf should have picked a captain that won't get sent off and miss a pile of matches, disgracing the county in the process.

Only my opinion though.

Remind me when Ciaran last got a red card for Armagh ONL?

McKeever did not recive a yellow card in last year's Championship.

He said red, duhhhhhh.

And remember: its 'i' before 'e', except after 'c'
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Silverbridge 2009 on April 22, 2009, 02:04:58 PM
Hello All, Wait for it Bridge man going to defend A Cullyhanna man. I think Ciaran is the right man for the job he knows what it takes to captain a team to be successful. Evertime he steps out onto the pitch he gives his all and he is a very vocal presence on the Field, although i would not have much time for the lad on a personal level he is the right man for the job. His discipline will be under the microscope now more than ever i just hope he does not let us down
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2009, 02:11:39 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2009, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 01:53:53 PM
Tbf should have picked a captain that won't get sent off and miss a pile of matches, disgracing the county in the process.

Only my opinion though.

Remind me when Ciaran last got a red card for Armagh ONL?

Why do you not watch your county?? Should have had one against Monaghan anyway, was at that match... I suspect he gets let off with these incidents every match he plays, and it all gets brushed under the rug...

So that's one incident whereyou think he might have been sent off but the referee disagreed, most spectators thought it was just a mis timed challenge and the Ulster Council even over-turned the yellow card itself. This is Ciaran's 5th year starting for Armagh and I can only remember one harsh sending off for pulling Peter Canavan's jersey (why its a yellow card to pull any else's jersey and a red to pull Canavan's is another story). What you suspect is neither here nor there. Yes Ciaran has had disciplinary issues in the past and was maybe lucky enough a couple of times not to be sent off but his discipline has hugely improved in the last couple of years. He's an All Ireland winning captain and a superb footballer who well deserves the honour of captaining his county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 02:53:48 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2009, 02:11:39 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2009, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 01:53:53 PM
Tbf should have picked a captain that won't get sent off and miss a pile of matches, disgracing the county in the process.

Only my opinion though.

Remind me when Ciaran last got a red card for Armagh ONL?

Why do you not watch your county?? Should have had one against Monaghan anyway, was at that match... I suspect he gets let off with these incidents every match he plays, and it all gets brushed under the rug...

So that's one incident whereyou think he might have been sent off but the referee disagreed, most spectators thought it was just a mis timed challenge and the Ulster Council even over-turned the yellow card itself. This is Ciaran's 5th year starting for Armagh and I can only remember one harsh sending off for pulling Peter Canavan's jersey (why its a yellow card to pull any else's jersey and a red to pull Canavan's is another story). What you suspect is neither here nor there. Yes Ciaran has had disciplinary issues in the past and was maybe lucky enough a couple of times not to be sent off but his discipline has hugely improved in the last couple of years. He's an All Ireland winning captain and a superb footballer who well deserves the honour of captaining his county.

How did he come by his reputation then may I ask?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 22, 2009, 03:06:32 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2009, 02:11:39 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2009, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 01:53:53 PM
Tbf should have picked a captain that won't get sent off and miss a pile of matches, disgracing the county in the process.

Only my opinion though.

Remind me when Ciaran last got a red card for Armagh ONL?

Why do you not watch your county?? Should have had one against Monaghan anyway, was at that match... I suspect he gets let off with these incidents every match he plays, and it all gets brushed under the rug...

So that's one incident whereyou think he might have been sent off but the referee disagreed, most spectators thought it was just a mis timed challenge and the Ulster Council even over-turned the yellow card itself. This is Ciaran's 5th year starting for Armagh and I can only remember one harsh sending off for pulling Peter Canavan's jersey (why its a yellow card to pull any else's jersey and a red to pull Canavan's is another story). What you suspect is neither here nor there. Yes Ciaran has had disciplinary issues in the past and was maybe lucky enough a couple of times not to be sent off but his discipline has hugely improved in the last couple of years. He's an All Ireland winning captain and a superb footballer who well deserves the honour of captaining his county.

Here Here Tacadoir,

Im a huge fan of Mc Keevers, he is only man for the job, he puts 100% into every, pass, tackle, shot, and im glad he was handed the captains armband, i would love to see him in CHB on the 31st
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on April 22, 2009, 04:09:49 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 22, 2009, 03:06:32 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2009, 02:11:39 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2009, 01:56:50 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 22, 2009, 01:53:53 PM
Tbf should have picked a captain that won't get sent off and miss a pile of matches, disgracing the county in the process.

Only my opinion though.

Remind me when Ciaran last got a red card for Armagh ONL?

Why do you not watch your county?? Should have had one against Monaghan anyway, was at that match... I suspect he gets let off with these incidents every match he plays, and it all gets brushed under the rug...

So that's one incident whereyou think he might have been sent off but the referee disagreed, most spectators thought it was just a mis timed challenge and the Ulster Council even over-turned the yellow card itself. This is Ciaran's 5th year starting for Armagh and I can only remember one harsh sending off for pulling Peter Canavan's jersey (why its a yellow card to pull any else's jersey and a red to pull Canavan's is another story). What you suspect is neither here nor there. Yes Ciaran has had disciplinary issues in the past and was maybe lucky enough a couple of times not to be sent off but his discipline has hugely improved in the last couple of years. He's an All Ireland winning captain and a superb footballer who well deserves the honour of captaining his county.

Here Here Tacadoir,

Im a huge fan of Mc Keevers, he is only man for the job, he puts 100% into every, pass, tackle, shot, and im glad he was handed the captains armband, i would love to see him in CHB on the 31st

true true!  only man for the job!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 22, 2009, 04:16:05 PM
would actually rather have him in the full back line somewhere to mark the danger men of tyrone. along with andy he's one of the best man-markers we have
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 22, 2009, 04:33:51 PM
Fixtures for the weekend anyone?

I believe we have Ogs this weekend, should be a nice one.

Marty injured but, good thing in case he tries to overthrow our manager eh PearseOg?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 22, 2009, 04:38:06 PM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 26 APRIL 2009

Thursday 23 April
ACL – Div. III (7.15)
Middletown v St Peter's (Kevin Gallogly)

Sunday 26 April
ACL – Div. I (2.00)
Sarsfields v Clan na Gael (Eamon Nugent)
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen (Jim Slevin)
St Patrick's v Culloville (Tony O'Hare)
Pearse Og v Dromintee (Kevin McNeice)
Mullaghbawn v Killeavy (Kevin Murtagh)
ACL – Div. II (2.00)
Ballymacnab v Granemore (Dessie McDonnell)
Clann Eireann v Wolfe Tone (Mickey Leonard)
Harps v Ballyhegan (Jim Burns)
Maghery v Tir na nÓg (Paul Boylan)
Silverbridge v St Michael's (Ger Devlin)
Whitecross v Madden (Frank McDonald)
ACL – Div. III (2.00)
Belleek v Collegeland (Stephen McKinley)
Clonmore v Tullysaran (Damian McConville)
Keady v Annaghmore (Jimmy McKee)
St Paul's v An Port Mor (Stephen Murray)
Shane O'Neill's v Lissummon (Barney Henry)
ACL – Div. IV (2.00)
Corrinshego v Phelim Brady's (Vincent O'Neill)
Crossmaglen II v Derrynoose (Ronan Quigley)
Dorsey Emmett's v Clady (Gary Smith)
Forkhill v Mullaghbrack (Noel Martin)
Killean v Grange (Tony Watters)
O'Hanlon's v Eire Og (Paul Rath)
Armagh Feile Final (6.00)
Grange v Silverbridge (Seamus O'Neill) at Ballymacnab Extra Time, if required.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 22, 2009, 04:45:33 PM
Quote from: pearseog on April 22, 2009, 04:16:05 PM
would actually rather have him in the full back line somewhere to mark the danger men of tyrone. along with andy he's one of the best man-markers we have

Probably will have him doing a man to man job on someone, he never give Stevie O Neill a sniff of it in the Ulster final replay in 05,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2009, 10:49:25 PM
St Pat's beat Whitecross in the B league tonight. I made the final score 2-14 to 1-10 with veteran Neil McConville the man of the match by a country mile.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 23, 2009, 08:07:19 AM
& Ballyhegan B's recorded their 3rd win of the season with a convincing win over the Nab. Maybe 10 points or so in it at the end. Very young & speedy Ballyhegan forward line, great to see!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 23, 2009, 10:03:14 AM
Lads i may have mentioned this b4 or not...can't remember. But have you or anyone in your club ever used any comments made on a site like this for motivation for a game...?

The reason i ask is some dude on Orchard County who claims to be a Clans man wrote a few things about us saying we'd be relegated by July in bottom place etc etc and last week before one of our games our manager pulled the piece of paper out of his pocket that he had printed of from Orchard county and read it out to the lads. Of course there was a reaction to it but i personally would never take anyone's comments serious that were on a forum board like this or any other board. I was more surprised he read Orchard County TBH (i'm sure if he was looking some sense he could have listened to us :P)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 23, 2009, 10:43:38 AM
i'd be more inclined to use newspaper articles or a source like that than orchard county because there are a right few gimps post on that site.  The clans players dont need to read posts on forums to be motivated as i'm sure every time they drink in the club or listen to a conversation on the town about the team someone will bad mouth them.

how'd the b's do last night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 23, 2009, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: illdecide on April 23, 2009, 10:03:14 AM
Lads i may have mentioned this b4 or not...can't remember. But have you or anyone in your club ever used any comments made on a site like this for motivation for a game...?

The reason i ask is some dude on Orchard County who claims to be a Clans man wrote a few things about us saying we'd be relegated by July in bottom place etc etc and last week before one of our games our manager pulled the piece of paper out of his pocket that he had printed of from Orchard county and read it out to the lads. Of course there was a reaction to it but i personally would never take anyone's comments serious that were on a forum board like this or any other board. I was more surprised he read Orchard County TBH (i'm sure if he was looking some sense he could have listened to us :P)

Load of bullshit.

Anyways, Ogs for us on Sunday. Proabably lose by 50 cos we're the shittest team in the histroy of the world.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 23, 2009, 11:41:19 AM
I agree ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 23, 2009, 11:52:18 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 23, 2009, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: illdecide on April 23, 2009, 10:03:14 AM
Lads i may have mentioned this b4 or not...can't remember. But have you or anyone in your club ever used any comments made on a site like this for motivation for a game...?

The reason i ask is some dude on Orchard County who claims to be a Clans man wrote a few things about us saying we'd be relegated by July in bottom place etc etc and last week before one of our games our manager pulled the piece of paper out of his pocket that he had printed of from Orchard county and read it out to the lads. Of course there was a reaction to it but i personally would never take anyone's comments serious that were on a forum board like this or any other board. I was more surprised he read Orchard County TBH (i'm sure if he was looking some sense he could have listened to us :P)

Load of bullshit.

Anyways, Ogs for us on Sunday. Proabably lose by 50 cos we're the shittest team in the histroy of the world.

Whats a load of Bullshit corn???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 23, 2009, 11:58:03 AM
Quote from: illdecide on April 23, 2009, 11:52:18 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 23, 2009, 10:52:06 AM
Quote from: illdecide on April 23, 2009, 10:03:14 AM
Lads i may have mentioned this b4 or not...can't remember. But have you or anyone in your club ever used any comments made on a site like this for motivation for a game...?

The reason i ask is some dude on Orchard County who claims to be a Clans man wrote a few things about us saying we'd be relegated by July in bottom place etc etc and last week before one of our games our manager pulled the piece of paper out of his pocket that he had printed of from Orchard county and read it out to the lads. Of course there was a reaction to it but i personally would never take anyone's comments serious that were on a forum board like this or any other board. I was more surprised he read Orchard County TBH (i'm sure if he was looking some sense he could have listened to us :P)

Load of bullshit.

Anyways, Ogs for us on Sunday. Proabably lose by 50 cos we're the shittest team in the histroy of the world.

Whats a load of Bullshit corn???

My poor attempt at humour has been lost on you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on April 23, 2009, 12:42:28 PM
I will definitely be attending the Ogs and Dromintee game. Although the season is only commencing it should be a great game involving 2 of the strongest teams in the county. Dromintee will be seeking a second victory and the ogs will be looking a first win.

Plenty of county talent will be on show with the o'roukes, shannon, mcevoy, martin and the 2 o'neills for dromintee and clarke, mallon, duffy, rafferty, donnelly etc for ogs.

i could see this being another draw.

Will be a good indication of where both teams are at the minute although i wouldnt read a great deal into it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 23, 2009, 12:50:51 PM
Corn i still dunno what was mean't out of that, i'm prob a bit slow on the old joke thingie so ignore my question. Can't think straight at the mo between hookers at the weekend (Newcastle stag doo) and job ready to calf my heads fried :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 23, 2009, 12:53:47 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 23, 2009, 12:50:51 PM
Corn i still dunno what was mean't out of that, i'm prob a bit slow on the old joke thingie so ignore my question. Can't think straight at the mo between hookers at the weekend (Newcastle stag doo) and job ready to calf my heads fried :-\

Niceeeee.


Joke: You said about someone posting negative and does it inspire a team.

I said bullshit and labelled us as the worst team in the world - see what I did there?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 23, 2009, 02:21:45 PM
I get ya now chief...brain not working at all...your game will be the game of the weekend (on paper) the Lurgan Mail has tried to hype our game up with Sarsfields saying the cars will be right back to Wolf tones pitch ::) That man Eugene Creaney that writes for Lurgan Mail wouldn't know what's inside an O'Neills ball FFS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 23, 2009, 02:45:52 PM
hopefully a good match is in store between the ogs and dromintee. expecting a massive crowd at the game with all pearse og members having been invited down to inspect the new changing room facilities. was down during the week and i must say they are fantastic.

ogs b's drew with derrynoose last night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 23, 2009, 03:12:00 PM
Quote from: pearseog on April 23, 2009, 02:45:52 PM
hopefully a good match is in store between the ogs and dromintee. expecting a massive crowd at the game with all pearse og members having been invited down to inspect the new changing room facilities. was down during the week and i must say they are fantastic.

ogs b's drew with derrynoose last night.

Only been at the new complex once, is it in the City or what, I can't remember?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 23, 2009, 04:54:01 PM
Quote from: pearseog on April 23, 2009, 02:45:52 PM
hopefully a good match is in store between the ogs and dromintee. expecting a massive crowd at the game with all pearse og members having been invited down to inspect the new changing room facilities. was down during the week and i must say they are fantastic.

ogs b's drew with derrynoose last night.

I'm assuming the new changing room facilities are in the location were the mobile huts were...Well done as the Og's have a good set up there now. Davitt Park will be next on the list for major re-development. The amount of GAA clubs that are going well for themselves is fantastic although it can be a bit frustrating when i look at our facilities and see what other teams have...5 years ago when the government grants were given out maybe 3 GAA clubs out of 30 applicants would have recieved funding...last year it was the complete opposite as out of 30 applicants i think something like 26 GAA clubs got funding...how times have changed and it's better going into our games than them soccer hoors
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 23, 2009, 05:13:40 PM
bit of a joke imo that Davitt (which is meant to be classified as a county ground) has been neglected. Only a few small things like scoreboard, new dugouts, tarmac the carpark, lick of paint etc would go a long way, and would also shut up the yaps who complain any time a county game is fixed for there.

as for motivation for clans you only have to listen to players from the other town teams who reckon there'll be one extra town derby next year when clans make the drop. call it snobbery but  i would never class clans in the same category when it comes to senior football as the other north clubs; bar maghery, portadown and maybe sarsfields. even the thought of having to play those other teams should be motivation enough for the clans  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 23, 2009, 05:18:02 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 23, 2009, 03:12:00 PM
Quote from: pearseog on April 23, 2009, 02:45:52 PM
hopefully a good match is in store between the ogs and dromintee. expecting a massive crowd at the game with all pearse og members having been invited down to inspect the new changing room facilities. was down during the week and i must say they are fantastic.

ogs b's drew with derrynoose last night.

Only been at the new complex once, is it in the City or what, I can't remember?

Its a bit outside. Go through Armagh and head as though you're going to Omagh / Enniskillen. Its down a wee road to your right a couple of minutes drive after you pass the sign for national speed limit. There's a sign directing ya.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 23, 2009, 05:20:02 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 23, 2009, 04:54:01 PM

I'm assuming the new changing room facilities are in the location were the mobile huts were...Well done as the Og's have a good set up there now. Davitt Park will be next on the list for major re-development. The amount of GAA clubs that are going well for themselves is fantastic although it can be a bit frustrating when i look at our facilities and see what other teams have...5 years ago when the government grants were given out maybe 3 GAA clubs out of 30 applicants would have recieved funding...last year it was the complete opposite as out of 30 applicants i think something like 26 GAA clubs got funding...how times have changed and it's better going into our games than them soccer hoors

The new changing rooms are in the bottom right hand corner and they are massive.  The Mobile huts are still there but they will be going shortly hopefully.  The Pitch is looking well at the minute as well.  All we need to do now is get the stand at the far side built.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 23, 2009, 05:21:33 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 23, 2009, 05:13:40 PM
bit of a joke imo that Davitt (which is meant to be classified as a county ground) has been neglected. Only a few small things like scoreboard, new dugouts, tarmac the carpark, lick of paint etc would go a long way, and would also shut up the yaps who complain any time a county game is fixed for there.



Listen saan Davitt is beyond a lick of paint, it needs major investment as we need new changing rooms and showers, we need a new pitch as Davitt is as bald as my arse and has been over compacted, we also need the drainage and new flood lights done and new fencing and much much more. But at least Fitz you will get the chance to play and use what we have coming in the next few years and i won't >:(. Seriously it will be fantastic when it finally goes ahead...

P.S have you gave Downgirl a call yet you dirty boy...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on April 23, 2009, 09:21:02 PM
Chin up Killeen.

I know that when Lissummon joined the League in the early seventies they also got a hiding in their first match - might have been by Eire Og too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on April 23, 2009, 09:34:26 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 23, 2009, 02:21:45 PM
I get ya now chief...brain not working at all...your game will be the game of the weekend (on paper) the Lurgan Mail has tried to hype our game up with Sarsfields saying the cars will be right back to Wolf tones pitch ::) That man Eugene Creaney that writes for Lurgan Mail wouldn't know what's inside an O'Neills ball FFS

I can't take Euegne Creaney seriously anymore, his county match reports are a joke, the North Armasgh bias is too much, you would think B Mallon was Armaghs best player the last couple of years the way Creaney has talked him up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 23, 2009, 09:42:14 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 23, 2009, 05:21:33 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 23, 2009, 05:13:40 PM
bit of a joke imo that Davitt (which is meant to be classified as a county ground) has been neglected. Only a few small things like scoreboard, new dugouts, tarmac the carpark, lick of paint etc would go a long way, and would also shut up the yaps who complain any time a county game is fixed for there.



Listen saan Davitt is beyond a lick of paint, it needs major investment as we need new changing rooms and showers, we need a new pitch as Davitt is as bald as my arse and has been over compacted, we also need the drainage and new flood lights done and new fencing and much much more. But at least Fitz you will get the chance to play and use what we have coming in the next few years and i won't >:(. Seriously it will be fantastic when it finally goes ahead...

P.S have you gave Downgirl a call yet you dirty boy...
I've heard for years now about all thats going to happen and to be fair they'd need to hurry up, we're far behind the other clubs in terms of facilities! whos funding it, sports council? chin up, once the county board gets the over 75s league up and running u'll be able to grace the pitch once more....

P.S. No i have NOT
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 24, 2009, 01:00:59 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 23, 2009, 03:12:00 PM
Quote from: pearseog on April 23, 2009, 02:45:52 PM
hopefully a good match is in store between the ogs and dromintee. expecting a massive crowd at the game with all pearse og members having been invited down to inspect the new changing room facilities. was down during the week and i must say they are fantastic.

ogs b's drew with derrynoose last night.

Only been at the new complex once, is it in the City or what, I can't remember?

pearse og signposts at both sides to the ballycrummy road, the killylea road side and the Omagh/Enniskillen road side
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T O Hare on April 24, 2009, 03:02:27 AM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on April 23, 2009, 09:34:26 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 23, 2009, 02:21:45 PM
I get ya now chief...brain not working at all...your game will be the game of the weekend (on paper) the Lurgan Mail has tried to hype our game up with Sarsfields saying the cars will be right back to Wolf tones pitch ::) That man Eugene Creaney that writes for Lurgan Mail wouldn't know what's inside an O'Neills ball FFS

I can't take Euegne Creaney seriously anymore, his county match reports are a joke, the North Armasgh bias is too much, you would think B Mallon was Armaghs best player the last couple of years the way Creaney has talked him up.

Creaneys son Gary was in my class in the college along with about four other high pitched sarsfield men, When gary got corn na og player of the year, Eugene had a two page pull out in the Lurgan mail, the slagging he got from everyone was lethal :D :D :D ;D ;D ;G
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2009, 11:33:46 AM
If you had got it id say there would have been a double page pull out in the Mayobridge echo!! (If there is such a thing)  ;) Not that you were good enogh to win it though!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 24, 2009, 12:15:40 PM
All ACL Fixtures due to be played on Sunday 3rd May 2009 will now be played on Saturday 2nd May at 6pm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 24, 2009, 12:16:31 PM
Why are they changed?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on April 24, 2009, 12:22:19 PM

opening of pearse og's pitch?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 24, 2009, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on April 24, 2009, 12:15:40 PM
All ACL Fixtures due to be played on Sunday 3rd May 2009 will now be played on Saturday 2nd May at 6pm.

Oh that's gonna be nasty for Clans as we have a Clans wedding that day...Sure it's only Cross :P

again do you know why they have been moved?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on April 24, 2009, 12:25:38 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on April 24, 2009, 12:15:40 PM
All ACL Fixtures due to be played on Sunday 3rd May 2009 will now be played on Saturday 2nd May at 6pm.

you get that email too Real?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 24, 2009, 01:22:15 PM
I knew there was stil a little bit of Mullaghbawn interest in ya St Pauls  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 24, 2009, 01:57:31 PM
FFS lads big wedding that day and the cocks that be have went and rearranged all the fixtures for the saturday. That is just typical sods law. Did someone say it was for the opening of Pearse Og Park but sure why should that concern all the other teams ??? I think this is another daft decision.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on April 24, 2009, 02:06:48 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on April 24, 2009, 01:22:15 PM
I knew there was stil a little bit of Mullaghbawn interest in ya St Pauls  ;D

of course there is Real, i may not play for the Bawn anymore but that doen't mean i don't like to keep an eye on how they are getting on!  ;D
what are the prospects for the season like?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 24, 2009, 02:12:04 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 24, 2009, 01:57:31 PM
FFS lads big wedding that day and the cocks that be have went and rearranged all the fixtures for the saturday. That is just typical sods law. Did someone say it was for the opening of Pearse Og Park but sure why should that concern all the other teams ??? I think this is another daft decision.

Knew you'd be happy with that saan, i'm glad i told Scorchio i could only make till the evening :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on April 24, 2009, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 24, 2009, 01:57:31 PM
FFS lads big wedding that day and the cocks that be have went and rearranged all the fixtures for the saturday. That is just typical sods law. Did someone say it was for the opening of Pearse Og Park but sure why should that concern all the other teams ??? I think this is another daft decision.

I assume its so that they can field for the Armagh v Dublin game in peare og park on the sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on April 24, 2009, 03:12:59 PM
Quote from: The GAA on April 24, 2009, 02:25:41 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 24, 2009, 01:57:31 PM
FFS lads big wedding that day and the cocks that be have went and rearranged all the fixtures for the saturday. That is just typical sods law. Did someone say it was for the opening of Pearse Og Park but sure why should that concern all the other teams ??? I think this is another daft decision.

I assume its so that they can field for the Armagh v Dublin game in peare og park on the sunday?
the way things are going tmc donnell will need spectators to bring their boots so that Armagh might field that day
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on April 24, 2009, 03:13:46 PM
Any predictions for this weekend? Here's what I think anyway:

Sarsfields v Clan na Gael (Draw)
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen (Carrickcruppen)
St Patrick's v Culloville (St Patricks)
Pearse Og v Dromintee (Dromintee)
Mullaghbawn v Killeavy (Mullaghbawn)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 24, 2009, 03:16:20 PM

Sarsfields v Clan na Gael Clans
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen Cross
St Patrick's v Culloville Cullyhanna
Pearse Og v Dromintee Ogs
Mullaghbawn v Killeavy Killeavy

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 24, 2009, 03:21:21 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 24, 2009, 03:16:20 PM

Sarsfields v Clan na Gael Clans
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen Cross
St Patrick's v Culloville Cullyhanna
Pearse Og v Dromintee Ogs
Mullaghbawn v Killeavy Killeavy



Are you putting the cry on Corn?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 24, 2009, 03:35:22 PM
Sarsfields v Clan na Gael Sarsfields (thats only because i'm away this weekend :P)
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen Cross
St Patrick's v Culloville Cullyhanna
Pearse Og v Dromintee Ogs
Mullaghbawn v Killeavy Draw


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 24, 2009, 03:38:34 PM
Clans (Cos illdecide is away this weekend)
Cross
Pats
Draw
Killeavy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 24, 2009, 03:47:21 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 24, 2009, 03:21:21 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 24, 2009, 03:16:20 PM

Sarsfields v Clan na Gael Clans
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen Cross
St Patrick's v Culloville Cullyhanna
Pearse Og v Dromintee Ogs
Mullaghbawn v Killeavy Killeavy




Are you putting the cry on Corn?

No at all my man, hope i'm proven wrong. But I would love to see the figures for home wins in the Armagh League.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 24, 2009, 04:53:06 PM
Corn thats why i picked Og's to beat yous as i don't believe you guys are the best of travellers but have a very good home record, although to be fair i'd say most teams are like that...I caould never understand in all the years i played 1st division football why you could beat a team by 15 points at home and get stuffed in the reversed fixture. Why do teams hace such different form from home and away, afterall you're playing the same game with and against the same players ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on April 24, 2009, 05:21:23 PM
I know in our case it can be hard for some teams to play at our pitch as it is very very small, and we are used to the tightness of it where other teams have wide open pitches and can play free flowing football!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 24, 2009, 05:43:57 PM
yes, traditionally a large open pitch suits our style of play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 24, 2009, 11:28:02 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 24, 2009, 03:16:20 PM

Sarsfields v Clan na Gael Sarsfield
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen Cross
St Patrick's v Culloville Cullyhanna
Pearse Og v Dromintee Ogs
Mullaghbawn v Killeavy Killeavy


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T O Hare on April 25, 2009, 04:32:11 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2009, 11:33:46 AM
If you had got it id say there would have been a double page pull out in the Mayobridge echo!! (If there is such a thing)  ;) Not that you were good enogh to win it though!! ;D ;D ;D

Defo wasn't good enough but still blame an ex clann eireann goalie for dropping having an nightmare in the semi final when we were beaten by a point >:( :D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 25, 2009, 02:01:11 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 24, 2009, 03:35:22 PM
Sarsfields v Clan na Gael Sarsfields (thats only because i'm away this weekend :P)
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen Cross
St Patrick's v Culloville Cullyhanna
Pearse Og v Dromintee Ogs
Mullaghbawn v Killeavy Draw




Don't come back saan :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on April 25, 2009, 03:21:48 PM
Armagh won the Ulster minor League this afternoon.  Final score Armagh 0-13  Donegal 0-09.  Congratulations.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 25, 2009, 03:56:25 PM
Quote from: T O Hare on April 25, 2009, 04:32:11 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2009, 11:33:46 AM
If you had got it id say there would have been a double page pull out in the Mayobridge echo!! (If there is such a thing)  ;) Not that you were good enogh to win it though!! ;D ;D ;D

Defo wasn't good enough but still blame an ex clann eireann goalie for dropping having an nightmare in the semi final when we were beaten by a point >:( :D ;D


You leave Buggsy alone!! Poor fella has hit the drink ever since!  ;D :D ;D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 25, 2009, 03:57:32 PM
Clans
Cross
st.pats
Ogs to draw
Killeavy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on April 25, 2009, 07:38:17 PM
Quote from: Skiddybadoo on April 25, 2009, 03:21:48 PM
Armagh won the Ulster minor League this afternoon.  Final score Armagh 0-13  Donegal 0-09.  Congratulations.
Spoke to a man well placed last year before the championship, he said that he didn't fancy the minor team last year as was proved but said that there was a lot of talent coming through in the next 3 years or so. Fingers crossed!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 26, 2009, 02:40:43 PM
HT:

Ogs 10 Dromintee 2.

Ogs with the breeze.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on April 26, 2009, 03:43:56 PM
Harps beat Ballyhegan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 26, 2009, 03:56:19 PM
Cross beat Carrickcruppen 1-18 to 0-2.
Never saw worse refereeing in my life. ( G Smith )
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 26, 2009, 03:57:08 PM
Culloville 1-7 St Pat's 0-9

Threw this one away. Very disappointing. Culloville made a great start and scored a goal in the first couple of minutes. They ran us ragged in the first 15 with some lovely football and should have been further than 1-2 to no score up. We came back into the game well in the second quarter but unfortuntely we seemed insistent on going for goals rather than taking the easy point available. Three great saves from the Culloville goalkeeper meant they were a couple of points ahead at half time, though to be fair they also missed a lot of very scoreable chances.

We came out all guns blazing in the second half, took th game at midfield and started to dominate. Eugene Casey got a couple of points. When we went 0-8 to 1-3 up I really thought we were going to win the game comfortably but unfortunately we simply stopped playing in the last quarter. Culloville took over at midfield and some silly errors losing possession and giving away scoreable frees meant that they won the match in injury time. Bitterly disappointing and with an away match in Dromintee next week, we really needed the points.

Best for Cullyhanna were Tony Donnelly, Gary McCooey, Michael Murray and Mal Mackin. One positive was that the younger players really came to the fore. In hindsight we badly missed Ciaran McKeever in the last quarter of the match.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 26, 2009, 04:06:18 PM
Pearse Ogs 1-13
Dromintee 1-5

I think that was the final score anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 26, 2009, 04:10:33 PM
Bridge beat newtown by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 26, 2009, 04:42:08 PM
Mullahbawn beat heaviy By Killeavey....v poor perforamnce....we are going to struggle this year....long summer ahead....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 26, 2009, 04:49:32 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 26, 2009, 04:06:18 PM
Pearse Ogs 1-13
Dromintee 1-5

I think that was the final score anyway

tommy powell was workin wonders with the scoreboard.  :D think it might have been 1-12 to 1-5.
ogs looked very strong going forward until ronan clarke got an injury which i thought would force him to come off but he played most of the 60 mins without doin too much else. he played a wonderfull ball into conor clarke ealry in the game before 'shorty' dummied the goalie and lashed into the empty net. a brilliant ogs move in the 2nd half resulted in a fantastic delicate score from sean moore. other main talking point was jp donnellys sending off after the dromintee penalty incident. the tackle didn't deserve a yellow never mind a straight red so i presume there was some mouthing involved on jp's part.
all in all a good result for the ogs and hopefully a good league campaign is in store.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on April 26, 2009, 04:54:02 PM
Harps won at a canter.  ;D

Harps 2-16
Ballyhegan 1-06

Vernon, Swift & Simon Lennon outstanding. Ballyhegan will struggle this year and will pick very few points up away from home. But at home they are a different opposition and they need to win the vast majority of their home games to survive in Div 2. As for Harps, they played some nice free flowing football today. I would have fancied them strongly to go up but the loss of McConnville, McCoy & Kelly to the states along with the loss of Vernon & Holmes to their respective counties may prevent this.

all in all not a great spectacle today as their was only 1 team in it 10mins into the 2nd half. Harps done what they had to do and they took some great scores especially the two goals from Morrison & Nippy Swift.

Long may it continue.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on April 26, 2009, 05:01:06 PM
Quote from: pearseog on April 26, 2009, 04:49:32 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 26, 2009, 04:06:18 PM
Pearse Ogs 1-13
Dromintee 1-5

I think that was the final score anyway

tommy powell was workin wonders with the scoreboard.  :D think it might have been 1-12 to 1-5.
ogs looked very strong going forward until ronan clarke got an injury which i thought would force him to come off but he played most of the 60 mins without doin too much else. he played a wonderfull ball into conor clarke ealry in the game before 'shorty' dummied the goalie and lashed into the empty net. a brilliant ogs move in the 2nd half resulted in a fantastic delicate score from sean moore. other main talking point was jp donnellys sending off after the dromintee penalty incident. the tackle didn't deserve a yellow never mind a straight red so i presume there was some mouthing involved on jp's part.
all in all a good result for the ogs and hopefully a good league campaign is in store.

Could have been a bigger win for Ogs if it wasn't for some poorly missed scores and great goalkeeping from Philly McEvoy.

It just wasn't Dromintee's day. A lot of boys cannot be faulted for effort but things just didn't work out on the pitch due to a number of reasons not least the lack of some of our best players through injury. I still thought Dromintee had enough quality though to get something from the game.

Ogs looked very good going forward at times and we failed defensively to get to grips with this. As for the sending off, it was for mouthing, he had been mouthing the whole game and fairplay to the referee for taking none of that shit. I actually think it hindered us as we were coming back into the game and when Ogs got the man sent off we didn't know what to do with the extra man and were incompetent in attack.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on April 26, 2009, 05:04:56 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on April 24, 2009, 03:13:46 PM
Any predictions for this weekend? Here's what I think anyway:

Sarsfields v Clan na Gael (Draw)
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen (Carrickcruppen)
St Patrick's v Culloville (St Patricks)
Pearse Og v Dromintee (Dromintee)
Mullaghbawn v Killeavy (Mullaghbawn)


I was on the wind-up...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 26, 2009, 09:27:23 PM
Sarsfields Beat Clans..0-13 0-3  :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 26, 2009, 10:33:39 PM
thats a shocking result for the clans!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 26, 2009, 11:13:57 PM
The clans were very poor this evening. They never showed the same desire or energy that the sarsfields did. It could be a hard road for us this year but hopefully we'll improve quickly
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cillsleibhe on April 26, 2009, 11:51:17 PM
Mullaghbawn 1.06 - Killeavy 3.12

Mullaghbawn ahead by 2 at half-time 0.6-0.4  Killeavy had a storming second half scoring 3.8 with Mullaghbawn scoring just once (goal).  Killeavy were impressive in the second period though to be honest Mullaghbawn were very poor and seem certain to struggle.  Their frustration showed at the end when Enda McNulty got a straight red.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 27, 2009, 08:25:24 AM
Granemore beat the Nab, 7-6, typical derby game, pulling and dragging
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on April 27, 2009, 08:55:25 AM
Tones drew with Clann Eireann
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 27, 2009, 09:00:33 AM
Anyone got the full list of results
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 27, 2009, 09:32:30 AM
Lads sorry couldn't give ya's a run down on the game as i had to miss it, i heard the score was 0-13 to 0-03 but i haven't got talking to any of the lads yet. Very bad result for us and could be very damaging indeed, to make matters worse we have Cross next week but hopefully we can lift ourselves, roll the sleeves up and get on with it...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on April 27, 2009, 09:33:57 AM
The ogs v dromintee game was a very onesided afair. Dont think both teams will read too much into the match due the the players dromintee were missing. The ogs however did look very slick on the attack and very strong in defence. The same problem as last week however emerged with some wayward shooting. they need to be converting far more of their chances.

Dromintee will hope to have their county men available as much as possible becuz they definitely will struggle without them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on April 27, 2009, 09:40:21 AM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 26 APRIL 2009

Thursday 23 April
ACL – Div. III
Middletown 0-7; St Peter's 1-8

Friday 24 April
ACL – Div. III
Belleek 1-15; Collegeland 0-7

Sunday 26 April
ACL – Div. I
Carrickcruppen 0-2; Crossmaglen 1-18
St Patrick's 0-9; Culloville 1-7
Pearse Og 1-13; Dromintee 1-5
Mullaghbawn 1-6; Killeavy 3-13
Sarsfields 0-13; Clan na Gael 0-3
ACL – Div. II
Ballymacnab 0-6; Granemore 0-7
Clann Eireann 1-8; Wolfe Tone 1-8
Harps 2-16; Ballyhegan 1-6
Maghery 2-14; Tir na nÓg 0-8
Silverbridge 0-12; St Michael's 0-10
Whitecross 0-8; Madden 1-4
ACL – Div. III
Clonmore 1-14; Tullysaran 0-12
Keady 1-11; Annaghmore 0-8
St Paul's 1-11; An Port Mor 1-4
Shane O'Neill's 2-9; Lissummon 2-6
ACL – Div. IV
Corrinshego 1-6; Phelim Brady's 1-3
Crossmaglen II 2-14; Derrynoose 0-4
Dorsey Emmett's v Clady (Off)
Forkhill 1-14; Mullaghbrack 1-4
Killean 0-1; Grange 1-10
O'Hanlon's 1-6; Eire Og 1-9
Armagh Feile Final
Grange 2-7; Silverbridge 3-12
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 27, 2009, 09:42:29 AM
All in all it was a shite performance by the clans yesterday. Not taking away from the sarsfields they did all they had to do and were effective. But the clans were playing like u-10's. They were no scoring threat and there was no pressure on the sarsfields coming out of defense which meant the defence was getting run ragged by the nippy forwards of the sarsfields. All in all a game to forget roll on the cross on friday night ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 27, 2009, 09:56:50 AM
Quote from: fcuksake on April 26, 2009, 04:54:02 PM
Harps won at a canter.  ;D

Harps 2-16
Ballyhegan 1-06

Vernon, Swift & Simon Lennon outstanding. Ballyhegan will struggle this year and will pick very few points up away from home. But at home they are a different opposition and they need to win the vast majority of their home games to survive in Div 2. As for Harps, they played some nice free flowing football today. I would have fancied them strongly to go up but the loss of McConnville, McCoy & Kelly to the states along with the loss of Vernon & Holmes to their respective counties may prevent this.

all in all not a great spectacle today as their was only 1 team in it 10mins into the 2nd half. Harps done what they had to do and they took some great scores especially the two goals from Morrison & Nippy Swift.

Long may it continue.


Happy enough with the first half, it was 1-07 / 1-04 at half time, considering this is likely to be Ballyhegan's toughest encounter along with Maghery next week!. After a super start for Ballyhegan, with full forward Paddy McKeever causing lots of trouble for Marty Gill, before defensive cover was provided from the line, Harps quickly got on top in midfield. Sean Morrison, Ultan Lennon & Joe Quigley caused a lot of damage towards the end of the first half.

2nd half Charlie Vernon clicked into gear & ran riot around the middle, with typical surges from forward (an awesome sight in full flow!) Nippy Swift seemed to find a lot of space in the 2nd half, & hit a super goal. The pace of the Harps forward line was impressive!

Paul McGrane had a knee op last week. Not sure how much football he'll play again.  :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 27, 2009, 10:31:42 AM
Have you got a stutter goats...lol (Only messin)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on April 27, 2009, 10:49:02 AM
Quote from: pearseog on April 26, 2009, 04:49:32 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 26, 2009, 04:06:18 PM
Pearse Ogs 1-13
Dromintee 1-5

I think that was the final score anyway

tommy powell was workin wonders with the scoreboard.  :D think it might have been 1-12 to 1-5.
ogs looked very strong going forward until ronan clarke got an injury which i thought would force him to come off but he played most of the 60 mins without doin too much else. he played a wonderfull ball into conor clarke ealry in the game before 'shorty' dummied the goalie and lashed into the empty net. a brilliant ogs move in the 2nd half resulted in a fantastic delicate score from sean moore. other main talking point was jp donnellys sending off after the dromintee penalty incident. the tackle didn't deserve a yellow never mind a straight red so i presume there was some mouthing involved on jp's part.
all in all a good result for the ogs and hopefully a good league campaign is in store.

Did I read that right above that Clarke didn't do too much. He won every ball that came near him and there was either a score or free won every time. There was very little waste. All in all I thouht that it was a good performance by the Ogs and Dromintee don't look much of a team without the O Rourkes. They could struggle this year if their playing a lot of games without them. It was good though that the Ogs have their first win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 10:50:12 AM
Quote from: cillsleibhe on April 26, 2009, 11:51:17 PM
Mullaghbawn 1.06 - Killeavy 3.12

Mullaghbawn ahead by 2 at half-time 0.6-0.4  Killeavy had a storming second half scoring 3.8 with Mullaghbawn scoring just once (goal).  Killeavy were impressive in the second period though to be honest Mullaghbawn were very poor and seem certain to struggle.  Their frustration showed at the end when Enda McNulty got a straight red.



Is it true one of your players started juggling the ball with his knee or something?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 10:50:59 AM
Quote from: ogshead on April 27, 2009, 10:49:02 AM
Quote from: pearseog on April 26, 2009, 04:49:32 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 26, 2009, 04:06:18 PM
Pearse Ogs 1-13
Dromintee 1-5

I think that was the final score anyway

tommy powell was workin wonders with the scoreboard.  :D think it might have been 1-12 to 1-5.
ogs looked very strong going forward until ronan clarke got an injury which i thought would force him to come off but he played most of the 60 mins without doin too much else. he played a wonderfull ball into conor clarke ealry in the game before 'shorty' dummied the goalie and lashed into the empty net. a brilliant ogs move in the 2nd half resulted in a fantastic delicate score from sean moore. other main talking point was jp donnellys sending off after the dromintee penalty incident. the tackle didn't deserve a yellow never mind a straight red so i presume there was some mouthing involved on jp's part.
all in all a good result for the ogs and hopefully a good league campaign is in store.

Did I read that right above that Clarke didn't do too much. He won every ball that came near him and there was either a score or free won every time. There was very little waste. All in all I thouht that it was a good performance by the Ogs and Dromintee don't look much of a team without the O Rourkes. They could struggle this year if their playing a lot of games without them. It was good though that the Ogs have their first win

We were missing a lot more than the O Rourkes lad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 11:00:02 AM
Cruppen get a fair trimming if the scores are to be believed by our boys.  Poor enough reflection on them that they only scored 2 point sin an hours football on their home ground.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cillsleibhe on April 27, 2009, 11:09:00 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 10:50:12 AM
Quote from: cillsleibhe on April 26, 2009, 11:51:17 PM
Mullaghbawn 1.06 - Killeavy 3.12

Mullaghbawn ahead by 2 at half-time 0.6-0.4  Killeavy had a storming second half scoring 3.8 with Mullaghbawn scoring just once (goal).  Killeavy were impressive in the second period though to be honest Mullaghbawn were very poor and seem certain to struggle.  Their frustration showed at the end when Enda McNulty got a straight red.



Is it true one of your players started juggling the ball with his knee or something?

I'm not sure whether the player concerned would have the skill to juggle the ball with his knee though in fairness he did tease Enda a bit by soloing the ball while standing still in front of him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 27, 2009, 11:11:18 AM
Quote from: illdecide on April 27, 2009, 10:31:42 AM
Have you got a stutter goats...lol (Only messin)

Ha ha... these compooters are playing tricks!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 11:00:02 AM
Cruppen get a fair trimming if the scores are to be believed by our boys.  Poor enough reflection on them that they only scored 2 point sin an hours football on their home ground.

I hear one of the Macs threw his weight around.  :o

QUB lalala?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 11:20:56 AM
Quote from: cillsleibhe on April 27, 2009, 11:09:00 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 10:50:12 AM
Quote from: cillsleibhe on April 26, 2009, 11:51:17 PM
Mullaghbawn 1.06 - Killeavy 3.12

Mullaghbawn ahead by 2 at half-time 0.6-0.4  Killeavy had a storming second half scoring 3.8 with Mullaghbawn scoring just once (goal).  Killeavy were impressive in the second period though to be honest Mullaghbawn were very poor and seem certain to struggle.  Their frustration showed at the end when Enda McNulty got a straight red.



Is it true one of your players started juggling the ball with his knee or something?

I'm not sure whether the player concerned would have the skill to juggle the ball with his knee though in fairness he did tease Enda a bit by soloing the ball while standing still in front of him.


:D fair enough, true enough about that player and the skills.

The story will get ou of hand and soon enough he will have done cartwheels in front of Enda and put a red flag in front of him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 11:25:04 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 11:00:02 AM
Cruppen get a fair trimming if the scores are to be believed by our boys.  Poor enough reflection on them that they only scored 2 point sin an hours football on their home ground.

I hear one of the Macs threw his weight around.  :o

QUB lalala?

How do you mean corn? Just curious.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on April 27, 2009, 11:27:50 AM
Quote from: ogshead on April 27, 2009, 10:49:02 AM
Quote from: pearseog on April 26, 2009, 04:49:32 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 26, 2009, 04:06:18 PM
Pearse Ogs 1-13
Dromintee 1-5

I think that was the final score anyway

tommy powell was workin wonders with the scoreboard.  :D think it might have been 1-12 to 1-5.
ogs looked very strong going forward until ronan clarke got an injury which i thought would force him to come off but he played most of the 60 mins without doin too much else. he played a wonderfull ball into conor clarke ealry in the game before 'shorty' dummied the goalie and lashed into the empty net. a brilliant ogs move in the 2nd half resulted in a fantastic delicate score from sean moore. other main talking point was jp donnellys sending off after the dromintee penalty incident. the tackle didn't deserve a yellow never mind a straight red so i presume there was some mouthing involved on jp's part.
all in all a good result for the ogs and hopefully a good league campaign is in store.

Did I read that right above that Clarke didn't do too much. He won every ball that came near him and there was either a score or free won every time. There was very little waste. All in all I thouht that it was a good performance by the Ogs and Dromintee don't look much of a team without the O Rourkes. They could struggle this year if their playing a lot of games without them. It was good though that the Ogs have their first win

I would have to say I thought Ronan Clarke was not one of your best forwards and the Dromintee full back did very well on him. He may have collected most balls that were put in front of him because obviously the full back wasn't going to risk going 50/50 and leaving the space in behind for him to be one on one with the keeper.

However there wasn't as much end product from his possession as you would expect from supposedly one of the country's best forwards.

As for Dromintee struggling without the O'Rourkes, as Corn says there were more players missing than the O'Rourkes (Mícheál was also playing by the way) but I feel we had enough quality still to get something yesterday. We have a very large squad this year with a lot of young lads still settling in. If we had have tightened up yesterday tactically, we would have been closer.

All round we were beaten by a very strong Ogs performance on the day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 11:52:18 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 11:25:04 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 11:00:02 AM
Cruppen get a fair trimming if the scores are to be believed by our boys.  Poor enough reflection on them that they only scored 2 point sin an hours football on their home ground.

I hear one of the Macs threw his weight around.  :o

QUB lalala?


How do you mean corn? Just curious.

Don't know if true, but apparently one of the twins hit an almighty shoulder that left one of Cruppen's players witha broken collarbone. The Camlough player would be a hardy sort too and a very good footballer.

Edit; I think Cross player was sent off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 12:00:54 PM
Sent off for a shoulder :o

Probably just teaching the pretenders to the throne what it is like to play with the big boys ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 27, 2009, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 12:00:54 PM
Sent off for a shoulder :o

Probably just teaching the pretenders to the throne what it is like to play with the big boys ;)

BC there should be some craic up in Cross on Friday night (think thats what they have arranged) when the Clans visit to get some of Margaret's finest sandwhiches ;) and take a handy 2pts :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 12:43:23 PM
No red card in the McEntee incident, I was told different but checked it out, just a big shoulder.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 01:19:26 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 27, 2009, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 12:00:54 PM
Sent off for a shoulder :o

Probably just teaching the pretenders to the throne what it is like to play with the big boys ;)

BC there should be some craic up in Cross on Friday night (think thats what they have arranged) when the Clans visit to get some of Margaret's finest sandwhiches ;) and take a handy 2pts :P

Now wasn't that good of Cross to re arrange things to let you tramps go drinking the next day ;)  And ye would say we never help people out!

Quote from: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 12:43:23 PM
No red card in the McEntee incident, I was told different but checked it out, just a big shoulder.

Typical of the lads, hitting ard and fair as always :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 27, 2009, 02:03:14 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 11:25:04 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 11:00:02 AM
Cruppen get a fair trimming if the scores are to be believed by our boys.  Poor enough reflection on them that they only scored 2 point sin an hours football on their home ground.

That must be it BC it must be the Cruppen ground that makes the cross excell. This would explain our thumping last year in the championship  ;) I better stop before some guys actually add weight to this conspiracy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on April 27, 2009, 02:17:21 PM
No word from gaapunter?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 27, 2009, 02:20:52 PM
Right just for calling us tramps I've decided to call the game off all together...and I'm taking the 2pts...

I'd say if you had a £5er for ever time them Mac's hit someone with a legitimate shoulder and broke a bone on the poor sod you could have a free weekend somewhere exotic...Lol. 2 hard hoors they are
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 27, 2009, 02:47:11 PM
If you had a fiver for everytime you licked the ass of a cross man you could get a week on the moon!! ;D Is there anyone from cross you arent riding? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 27, 2009, 03:22:29 PM
 ;) :D good one saan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on April 27, 2009, 03:24:32 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 27, 2009, 02:47:11 PM
If you had a fiver for everytime you licked the ass of a cross man you could get a week on the moon!! ;D Is there anyone from cross you arent riding? ;D ;D

He probably does have a fiver for everytime this happened...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 27, 2009, 03:38:54 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 27, 2009, 02:47:11 PM
If you had a fiver for everytime you licked the ass of a cross man you could get a week on the moon!! ;D Is there anyone from cross you arent riding? ;D ;D

If i had a £5er for every tackle you pulled out of saan i'd be sitting in the house instead of work. I don't lick anyones ass saan and as for riding some from Cross, i wouldn't rule it out as long as she's half decent looking and not stinking of diesel i'd give her a rattle...Just remember saan before you come here slabbering i'm not the one who gets taxi's up to Crossmaglen to help them celebrate winning a cup and buying their whole club drink... ;D ;D

P.S. take it out of that... ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on April 27, 2009, 05:46:12 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 11:00:02 AM
Cruppen get a fair trimming if the scores are to be believed by our boys.  Poor enough reflection on them that they only scored 2 point sin an hours football on their home ground.

Jesus Cruppin must have been brutal!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 27, 2009, 06:42:28 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 11:52:18 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 11:25:04 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 11:00:02 AM
Cruppen get a fair trimming if the scores are to be believed by our boys.  Poor enough reflection on them that they only scored 2 point sin an hours football on their home ground.

I hear one of the Macs threw his weight around.  :o

QUB lalala?


How do you mean corn? Just curious.

Don't know if true, but apparently one of the twins hit an almighty shoulder that left one of Cruppen's players witha broken collarbone. The Camlough player would be a hardy sort too and a very good footballer.

Edit; I think Cross player was sent off.

Tony hit Martin Ferris with a heavy but fair shoulder. He wasnt even penalised never mind being sent off.
Unfotunately Ferris got his collar bone broken.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 06:46:42 PM
Quote from: crossfire on April 27, 2009, 06:42:28 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 11:52:18 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 11:25:04 AM
Quote from: corn02 on April 27, 2009, 11:19:14 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 11:00:02 AM
Cruppen get a fair trimming if the scores are to be believed by our boys.  Poor enough reflection on them that they only scored 2 point sin an hours football on their home ground.

I hear one of the Macs threw his weight around.  :o

QUB lalala?


How do you mean corn? Just curious.

Don't know if true, but apparently one of the twins hit an almighty shoulder that left one of Cruppen's players witha broken collarbone. The Camlough player would be a hardy sort too and a very good footballer.

Edit; I think Cross player was sent off.

Tony hit Martin Ferris with a heavy but fair shoulder. He wasnt even penalised never mind being sent off.
Unfotunately Ferris got his collar bone broken.

Ai Crossfire, I posted soon after syaing he wasn't sent off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on April 27, 2009, 09:13:29 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on April 27, 2009, 11:27:50 AM
Quote from: ogshead on April 27, 2009, 10:49:02 AM
Quote from: pearseog on April 26, 2009, 04:49:32 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 26, 2009, 04:06:18 PM
Pearse Ogs 1-13
Dromintee 1-5

I think that was the final score anyway

tommy powell was workin wonders with the scoreboard.  :D think it might have been 1-12 to 1-5.
ogs looked very strong going forward until ronan clarke got an injury which i thought would force him to come off but he played most of the 60 mins without doin too much else. he played a wonderfull ball into conor clarke ealry in the game before 'shorty' dummied the goalie and lashed into the empty net. a brilliant ogs move in the 2nd half resulted in a fantastic delicate score from sean moore. other main talking point was jp donnellys sending off after the dromintee penalty incident. the tackle didn't deserve a yellow never mind a straight red so i presume there was some mouthing involved on jp's part.
all in all a good result for the ogs and hopefully a good league campaign is in store.

Did I read that right above that Clarke didn't do too much. He won every ball that came near him and there was either a score or free won every time. There was very little waste. All in all I thouht that it was a good performance by the Ogs and Dromintee don't look much of a team without the O Rourkes. They could struggle this year if their playing a lot of games without them. It was good though that the Ogs have their first win

I would have to say I thought Ronan Clarke was not one of your best forwards and the Dromintee full back did very well on him. He may have collected most balls that were put in front of him because obviously the full back wasn't going to risk going 50/50 and leaving the space in behind for him to be one on one with the keeper.

However there wasn't as much end product from his possession as you would expect from supposedly one of the country's best forwards.

As for Dromintee struggling without the O'Rourkes, as Corn says there were more players missing than the O'Rourkes (Mícheál was also playing by the way) but I feel we had enough quality still to get something yesterday. We have a very large squad this year with a lot of young lads still settling in. If we had have tightened up yesterday tactically, we would have been closer.

All round we were beaten by a very strong Ogs performance on the day.

I did not say that Clarke was the best forward, I said that he collected everything that came near him and he scored a few and got frees. It was in response to someone saying that he didn't do much, he set up the goal with a through ball and almost set up another with a similar pass as well so he was very influential

Did not realise that there was more missing than the O'Roukes so I apologise for that remark was just expecting a tough hard hitting match but it didn't materialise so was just disappointed in that respect
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 27, 2009, 09:16:07 PM
Quote from: ogshead on April 27, 2009, 09:13:29 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on April 27, 2009, 11:27:50 AM
Quote from: ogshead on April 27, 2009, 10:49:02 AM
Quote from: pearseog on April 26, 2009, 04:49:32 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 26, 2009, 04:06:18 PM
Pearse Ogs 1-13
Dromintee 1-5

I think that was the final score anyway

tommy powell was workin wonders with the scoreboard.  :D think it might have been 1-12 to 1-5.
ogs looked very strong going forward until ronan clarke got an injury which i thought would force him to come off but he played most of the 60 mins without doin too much else. he played a wonderfull ball into conor clarke ealry in the game before 'shorty' dummied the goalie and lashed into the empty net. a brilliant ogs move in the 2nd half resulted in a fantastic delicate score from sean moore. other main talking point was jp donnellys sending off after the dromintee penalty incident. the tackle didn't deserve a yellow never mind a straight red so i presume there was some mouthing involved on jp's part.
all in all a good result for the ogs and hopefully a good league campaign is in store.

Did I read that right above that Clarke didn't do too much. He won every ball that came near him and there was either a score or free won every time. There was very little waste. All in all I thouht that it was a good performance by the Ogs and Dromintee don't look much of a team without the O Rourkes. They could struggle this year if their playing a lot of games without them. It was good though that the Ogs have their first win

I would have to say I thought Ronan Clarke was not one of your best forwards and the Dromintee full back did very well on him. He may have collected most balls that were put in front of him because obviously the full back wasn't going to risk going 50/50 and leaving the space in behind for him to be one on one with the keeper.

However there wasn't as much end product from his possession as you would expect from supposedly one of the country's best forwards.

As for Dromintee struggling without the O'Rourkes, as Corn says there were more players missing than the O'Rourkes (Mícheál was also playing by the way) but I feel we had enough quality still to get something yesterday. We have a very large squad this year with a lot of young lads still settling in. If we had have tightened up yesterday tactically, we would have been closer.

All round we were beaten by a very strong Ogs performance on the day.

I did not say that Clarke was the best forward, I said that he collected everything that came near him and he scored a few and got frees. It was in response to someone saying that he didn't do much, he set up the goal with a through ball and almost set up another with a similar pass as well so he was very influencial

Did not realise that there was more missing than the O'Roukes so I apologise for that remark was just expecting a tough hard hitting match but it didn't materialise so was just disappointed in that respect

clarke was brilliant before he got the knock. what i was saying was that he wasn't as effective after the incident just before half time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on April 28, 2009, 08:48:30 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E MONDAY 3 MAY 2009

Tuesday 28 April
ACL – Div. IV (7.00)
Dorsey Emmett's v Clady (Noel Martin)

Wednesday 29 April
Under-21 Football Championship – 1st Round (7.00)
Middletown v St Paul's (Stephen McKinley)
St John's v Ballyhegan (Paudie Hughes)
Carrickcruppen v St Brigid's (Ger Devlin)
Keady v Madden (Malachy McNicholl)
Killeavy v Wolfe Tone (Kevin McNeice)
Ballymacnab v Clann Eireann (Oliver Hearty)
Clan na Gael v St Patrick's (Jimmy McKee)
Cavanakill Emmett's v Granemore (Kevin Murtagh)
Culloville v Maghery (Paul Rath)
Crossmaglen v Shane O'Neill's (Patrick Duffy)
Tir na nÓg v Dromintee (Jim Slevin)
Mullaghbawn v Tullysaran (Damian McConville)
Extra time, if required.  1st named team has home advantage

Thursday 30 April
Under-21 Football Championship – 1st Round (7.00)
Pearse Og v Harps (Ronan Quigley)
Extra time, if required.  1st named team has home advantage

Friday 1 May
ACL – Div. I (7.15)
Killeavy v Pearse Og (Barney Henry)
ACL – Div. II (7.15)
Wolfe Tone v Granemore (Patrick Duffy)

Saturday 2 May
ACL – Div. I (6.00)
Crossmaglen v Clan na Gael (Malachy McNicholl)
Culloville v Carrickcruppen (Paudie Hughes)
Dromintee v St Patrick's (Rory Robinson)
Mullaghbawn v Sarsfields (Jim Lynch)
ACL – Div. II (6.00)
Ballyhegan v Maghery (Frank McDonald)
Tir na nÓg v Silverbridge (Eugene D Nugent)
St Michael's v Whitecross (Seamus O'Neill)
Madden v Ballymacnab (Vincent O'Neill)
ACL – Div. III (6.00)
Clonmore v Keady (Tony O'Hare)
Annaghmore v Middletown (Kevin Murtagh)
St Peter's v St Paul's (Eamon Nugent)
An Port Mor v Shane O'Neill's (Jim Slevin)
Lissummon v Belleek (Kevin McNeice)
Tullysaran v Collegeland (Gary Smith)
ACL – Div. IV (6.00)
Corrinshego v Crossmaglen II (Ger Devlin)
Clady v Forkhill (Dessie McDonnell)
Mullaghbrack v Killean (Paul Boylan)
Grange v O'Hanlon's (Mickey Leonard)
Eire Og v Crossmaglen II (Jim Burns)
Phelim Brady's v Derrynoose (Tony Watters)

Monday 4 May
ACL – Div. II (7.00)
Clann Eireann v Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on April 28, 2009, 10:22:43 AM
I wouldn't agree that Clark was 'brilliant' before the knock. And the knock I don't think was the reason for a below par performance by his standards. I thought he was marked very well.

Yes the game did lack any hard-hitting on our part.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 28, 2009, 11:18:57 AM
Quote from: illdecide on April 27, 2009, 03:38:54 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 27, 2009, 02:47:11 PM
If you had a fiver for everytime you licked the ass of a cross man you could get a week on the moon!! ;D Is there anyone from cross you arent riding? ;D ;D

If i had a £5er for every tackle you pulled out of saan i'd be sitting in the house instead of work. I don't lick anyones ass saan and as for riding some from Cross, i wouldn't rule it out as long as she's half decent looking and not stinking of diesel i'd give her a rattle...Just remember saan before you come here slabbering i'm not the one who gets taxi's up to Crossmaglen to help them celebrate winning a cup and buying their whole club drink... ;D ;D

P.S. take it out of that... ;)


Sounds like I hit a nerve here!! You obviously dont know me if you think id buy anyone drink nevermind a whole bar!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 28, 2009, 01:46:09 PM
U21FC tomorrow night, who would be the favourites? Obviously Cross will be there or thereabouts, is it a case of the usual suspects? Cruppen, Killeavy, Dromintee etc?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 28, 2009, 02:09:42 PM
I was told that the Cross v Clans game was to be on friday night. Can anyone confirm this???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on April 28, 2009, 02:26:34 PM
Who are involved in the Cavanakill, St Brigids and St Johns amalgamations?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on April 28, 2009, 02:29:02 PM
St Johns is Annaghmore, Clonmore and Collegeland.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cillsleibhe on April 28, 2009, 02:33:45 PM
Cavankill Emmets are made up from Belleek, St. Michael's Newtownhamilton and Dorsey Emmets
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cillsleibhe on April 28, 2009, 02:37:47 PM
St. Brigid's I think are mainly Whitecross.  Clady, Lissummon and O'Hanlon's Poyntzpass may also provide players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 28, 2009, 05:18:36 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on April 28, 2009, 10:22:43 AM
I wouldn't agree that Clark was 'brilliant' before the knock. And the knock I don't think was the reason for a below par performance by his standards. I thought he was marked very well.

Yes the game did lack any hard-hitting on our part.

what did he do wrong before the knock? he won every ball despite the full back dragging him every time he made a run. he scored two points with his left foot and also provided two goal opportunities for conor clarke and jp donnelly (one of which was taken by conor) and also won two frees (the second one he couldn't take as he got the knock in the foul). i think thats pretty good in 25 mins of football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T O Hare on April 28, 2009, 05:22:03 PM
Quote from: pearseog on April 28, 2009, 05:18:36 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on April 28, 2009, 10:22:43 AM
I wouldn't agree that Clark was 'brilliant' before the knock. And the knock I don't think was the reason for a below par performance by his standards. I thought he was marked very well.

Yes the game did lack any hard-hitting on our part.

what did he do wrong before the knock? he won every ball despite the full back dragging him every time he made a run. he scored two points with his left foot and also provided two goal opportunities for conor clarke and jp donnelly (one of which was taken by conor) and also won two frees (the second one he couldn't take as he got the knock in the foul). i think thats pretty good in 25 mins of football.

Hello Clarkey :D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on April 28, 2009, 06:40:34 PM
Quote from: T O Hare on April 28, 2009, 05:22:03 PM
Quote from: pearseog on April 28, 2009, 05:18:36 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on April 28, 2009, 10:22:43 AM
I wouldn't agree that Clark was 'brilliant' before the knock. And the knock I don't think was the reason for a below par performance by his standards. I thought he was marked very well.

Yes the game did lack any hard-hitting on our part.

what did he do wrong before the knock? he won every ball despite the full back dragging him every time he made a run. he scored two points with his left foot and also provided two goal opportunities for conor clarke and jp donnelly (one of which was taken by conor) and also won two frees (the second one he couldn't take as he got the knock in the foul). i think thats pretty good in 25 mins of football.


Hello Clarkey :D ;D

Busted
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on April 28, 2009, 11:32:01 PM
either your Ronan or the cameraman
:D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 29, 2009, 12:46:48 PM
Looking like the clans game will now be on saturday at 6. Our lads will now have to leave a wedding that has been planned all year just because the cross were not willing to accomodate us on the friday evening. Oh it must be said they did offer to play it on the sunday morning at 12 :( So BC i don't think you have done anything for the tramps as you put it. But wee apples and all that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 29, 2009, 12:48:49 PM
Quote from: Joxer on April 27, 2009, 02:17:21 PM
No word from gaapunter?

Yes Joxer hows the form- i heard on the grapevine that you were missing me
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 29, 2009, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on April 29, 2009, 12:48:49 PM
Quote from: Joxer on April 27, 2009, 02:17:21 PM
No word from gaapunter?

Yes Joxer hows the form- i heard on the grapevine that you were missing me
keeping well princess?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 29, 2009, 01:29:25 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 29, 2009, 12:46:48 PM
Looking like the clans game will now be on saturday at 6. Our lads will now have to leave a wedding that has been planned all year just because the cross were not willing to accomodate us on the friday evening. Oh it must be said they did offer to play it on the sunday morning at 12 :( So BC i don't think you have done anything for the tramps as you put it. But wee apples and all that.

was friday night only a rumour then? BC?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 29, 2009, 02:29:19 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 29, 2009, 12:56:24 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on April 29, 2009, 12:48:49 PM
Quote from: Joxer on April 27, 2009, 02:17:21 PM
No word from gaapunter?

Yes Joxer hows the form- i heard on the grapevine that you were missing me
keeping well princess?

Yes Fitz lad keeping fine and well- i see all the lads missed me- i can feel the love here
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 29, 2009, 02:42:30 PM
QuoteQuote from: illdecide on April 27, 2009, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 27, 2009, 12:00:54 PM
Sent off for a shoulder Shocked

Probably just teaching the pretenders to the throne what it is like to play with the big boys Wink

BC there should be some craic up in Cross on Friday night (think thats what they have arranged) when the Clans visit to get some of Margaret's finest sandwhiches Wink and take a handy 2pts Tongue

Now wasn't that good of Cross to re arrange things to let you tramps go drinking the next day Wink  And ye would say we never help people out!

Quote from: lurganblue on April 29, 2009, 01:29:25 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 29, 2009, 12:46:48 PM
Looking like the clans game will now be on saturday at 6. Our lads will now have to leave a wedding that has been planned all year just because the cross were not willing to accomodate us on the friday evening. Oh it must be said they did offer to play it on the sunday morning at 12 :( So BC i don't think you have done anything for the tramps as you put it. But wee apples and all that.

was friday night only a rumour then? BC?


Lurgan one if one at all.
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 29, 2009, 12:46:48 PM
Looking like the clans game will now be on saturday at 6. Our lads will now have to leave a wedding that has been planned all year just because the cross were not willing to accomodate us on the friday evening. Oh it must be said they did offer to play it on the sunday morning at 12 :( So BC i don't think you have done anything for the tramps as you put it. But wee apples and all that.

Fair enough winsamsoon, there may be good reasons why Friday didn't suit Cross but I can't comment.  BTW, I was getting a dig in at illdecide with the tramps jibe, don't be so sensitive!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 29, 2009, 03:27:38 PM
I don't mind the tramps jibe because i know there are tramps in lurgan  :D :D I just think that teams could be a wee bit more accomodating for other clubs when it comes to the likes of this. The lad that is getting married played football for years for the club and a right few of the current team are supposed to be going to the wedding. We will now have to leave the wives and girlfriends and go to the match and return to the wedding later that evening. I just think it is bad form all round. After all wedding are a one off thing (or maybe not in some cirlces) and are very expensive.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 29, 2009, 03:44:59 PM
Think of the money the lads will save winsam
They will be able to fire a few bottles of Buckie into them as well on the way back to the wedding
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on April 29, 2009, 03:59:39 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 29, 2009, 03:27:38 PM
I don't mind the tramps jibe because i know there are tramps in lurgan  :D :D I just think that teams could be a wee bit more accomodating for other clubs when it comes to the likes of this. The lad that is getting married played football for years for the club and a right few of the current team are supposed to be going to the wedding. We will now have to leave the wives and girlfriends and go to the match and return to the wedding later that evening. I just think it is bad form all round. After all wedding are a one off thing (or maybe not in some cirlces) and are very expensive.

Feck the wedding- football has to come first especially in this case
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 29, 2009, 05:18:04 PM
I wouldn't drink buckfast with your lips full back ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 29, 2009, 05:23:31 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 29, 2009, 05:18:04 PM
I wouldn't drink buckfast with your lips full back ;) :D

:D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 29, 2009, 05:33:38 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 29, 2009, 05:18:04 PM
I wouldn't drink buckfast with your lips full back ;) :D

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 29, 2009, 06:13:52 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 29, 2009, 05:18:04 PM
I wouldn't drink buckfast with your lips full back ;) :D


Id drink it through my ma's lips!! (And not the ones on her face either) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 29, 2009, 07:21:18 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 29, 2009, 06:13:52 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 29, 2009, 05:18:04 PM
I wouldn't drink buckfast with your lips full back ;) :D


Id drink it through my ma's lips!! (And not the ones on her face either) ;D ;D ;D ;D

FFS i near thru my dinner up there :-\ Thats at gaapunter's level :D :D :D

P.S what's your ma like??? ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on April 29, 2009, 08:29:35 PM
Tir na nOg beat Dromintee 1-11 to 0-6 in the u21 championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 29, 2009, 08:41:23 PM
Clans beat by cullyhanna by 6 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 29, 2009, 09:25:02 PM
Heard Killeavy bt Wolfe Tones by a point with the last kick of the game...

The Clans Cullyhanna game was far closer than the scoreline would suggest, best for Cullyhanna was no doubt the ref (Joe Murtagh?) who had a f*cking stinker. Clans started brightly and led 4-1 after 15 mins, however the midfielder got sent off midway for getting wrecklessly involved in what really was handbags. Little between the teams until Cullyhanna got a goal before the break and went in with a 3pt advantage which they never relinquised. Clans came out with intent in second half and dominated proceedings but couldn't convert the scores, pats utilised sweeper well as pointless long balls where launced by clans into their forwards. cullyhanna took every opportunity to stall the game and ruin it as a spectacle ("cramp" etc), and in the last minute were able to score a goal to win comfortably in the end.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 29, 2009, 09:38:48 PM
Tir na nog much to strong. Very impressive. Ff v good. We did not get going an were never in it.   Shame that in such a quiet game that some of the tir na nog fans felt the need to shout abuse an cheer wides. Not surprised really have seen it plenty down there.   There team plays a lovely style though and could be the dark horses.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 29, 2009, 09:45:07 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 29, 2009, 09:38:48 PM
Tir na nog much to strong. Very impressive. Ff v good. We did not get going an were never in it.   Shame that in such a quiet game that some of the tir na nog fans felt the need to shout abuse an cheer wides. Not surprised really have seen it plenty down there.   There team plays a lovely style though and could be the dark horses.

P'Down definitely strong at this level, was McAllister playing?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on April 29, 2009, 09:54:04 PM
No McAllister this week anyway, maybe he'll be available when Linfield finish. I was surprised how well we played tonight and how poor Dromintee were.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 29, 2009, 10:20:48 PM
Middletown beat St.Paul's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on April 29, 2009, 10:21:26 PM
Keady Dwyers beat Madden 2-10 to 1-5.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on April 29, 2009, 10:23:21 PM
Who were the best performers for pdown?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 29, 2009, 10:27:20 PM
Cross beat Shane O' Neills
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 29, 2009, 10:32:17 PM
cruppen beat st bridgets
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cillsleibhe on April 30, 2009, 10:04:18 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 29, 2009, 09:25:02 PM
Heard Killeavy bt Wolfe Tones by a point with the last kick of the game...

The Clans Cullyhanna game was far closer than the scoreline would suggest, best for Cullyhanna was no doubt the ref (Joe Murtagh?) who had a f*cking stinker. Clans started brightly and led 4-1 after 15 mins, however the midfielder got sent off midway for getting wrecklessly involved in what really was handbags. Little between the teams until Cullyhanna got a goal before the break and went in with a 3pt advantage which they never relinquised. Clans came out with intent in second half and dominated proceedings but couldn't convert the scores, pats utilised sweeper well as pointless long balls where launced by clans into their forwards. cullyhanna took every opportunity to stall the game and ruin it as a spectacle ("cramp" etc), and in the last minute were able to score a goal to win comfortably in the end.

I was at the Killeavy game which finished Killeavy 2.10 - Wolfe Tones 2.09   Result was harsh on Tones who were never behind until the last minute.  They were however awarded a soft penalty (awarded against the keeper for over-holding) and Killeavy certainly did enough to deserve a draw if not the win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 30, 2009, 11:26:05 AM
Mullaghbawn v Tullysarron was abandoned...massive brawl...was not at the game so cannot comment on anything...obviously the are two sides to the story....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on April 30, 2009, 12:13:45 PM
I was at the game, and there was no other words for it except thuggery from Mullaghbawn, the row was in front of the mullabawn dugouts  whom all (including supported) spilled onto the field to kick lumps out of tullysaran players unlucky enuf to be that side of the pitch.

I know people will say im only telling one side to the story but i spoke to the ref after and im glad to say he is completely aware of who was responsible for the row and will subsequently be putting it in his report.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 30, 2009, 12:46:53 PM
Read on another forum what the Mullabawn players where at, kicking men straight in the teeth when down, fist fights, supporters involved etc, if this is true, they should nt only be thrown out but also a hefty fine
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 30, 2009, 01:18:26 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 29, 2009, 09:38:48 PM
Tir na nog much to strong. Very impressive. Ff v good. We did not get going an were never in it.   Shame that in such a quiet game that some of the tir na nog fans felt the need to shout abuse an cheer wides. Not surprised really have seen it plenty down there.    There team plays a lovely style though and could be the dark horses.


No surprise there - theres no shortage of tramps up the G road!! ;)



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on April 30, 2009, 01:28:19 PM
They were a disgrace last nite, Tullysaran have a 19 year who lost his front teeth at the boot of a fully grown Mullabawn man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 30, 2009, 02:08:39 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on April 30, 2009, 01:28:19 PM
They were a disgrace last nite, Tullysaran have a 19 year who lost his front teeth at the boot of a fully grown Mullabawn man.

Well Hank the county board will know that Bawn have been involved in punch up's before and they should take this into consideration...Sounds like there could be prosecutions on the way
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on April 30, 2009, 02:11:01 PM

As in prosecutions by the law?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 30, 2009, 02:20:12 PM
i think they should settle it on sunday night after lacey's  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 30, 2009, 02:40:29 PM
Not for one minute am I proclaiming Mullaghbawn's innocence but it takes two to tangle.  I was just talking to one player last night who informed me that he was dropped kicked on the back from behind...which sounds like a cowardly act....and Hank there was apparently a number of Tullysarron supporters acting like Ricky hatton on the pitch as well during the brawl....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on April 30, 2009, 02:44:27 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on April 30, 2009, 02:40:29 PM
I was just talking to one player last night who informed me that he was dropped kicked on the back from behind...which sounds like a cowardly act..

Dropped kicked with the ball?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on April 30, 2009, 02:46:41 PM
Was going to ask that myself...

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 30, 2009, 02:47:16 PM
No with the boot  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 30, 2009, 02:50:58 PM
But let me make it clear...scenes like this have no place in our game....and i wouldn stand up for any fellow club man if they were caught kicking some1 on the ground as some people have suggested on another forum....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on April 30, 2009, 03:17:18 PM
This could get messy for the club Real regardless I would think
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on April 30, 2009, 03:27:12 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on April 30, 2009, 02:40:29 PM
Not for one minute am I proclaiming Mullaghbawn's innocence but it takes two to tangle.  I was just talking to one player last night who informed me that he was dropped kicked on the back from behind...which sounds like a cowardly act....and Hank there was apparently a number of Tullysarron supporters acting like Ricky hatton on the pitch as well during the brawl....

100% right Real, however there is only so much provocation that can be taken before some retaliation occurs.

When the mullabawn FF start throwing punches, it was dead in front of the Mullabawn subs and where their support was gathered, (the majority of which jumped into the row) the tullysaran support were mostly on the other side.  It may have been a different story had the fight not broke out where it did.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 30, 2009, 04:13:13 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 30, 2009, 02:08:39 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on April 30, 2009, 01:28:19 PM
They were a disgrace last nite, Tullysaran have a 19 year who lost his front teeth at the boot of a fully grown Mullabawn man.

Well Hank the county board will know that Bawn have been involved in punch up's before and they should take this into consideration...Sounds like there could be prosecutions on the way

Name one club that hasn't?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on April 30, 2009, 04:37:28 PM
I hear its a tenner into the Og' pitch opening on Sunday. Madness.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on April 30, 2009, 04:39:41 PM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on April 30, 2009, 12:13:45 PM
I was at the game, and there was no other words for it except thuggery from Mullaghbawn, the row was in front of the mullabawn dugouts  whom all (including supported) spilled onto the field to kick lumps out of tullysaran players unlucky enuf to be that side of the pitch.

I know people will say im only telling one side to the story but i spoke to the ref after and im glad to say he is completely aware of who was responsible for the row and will subsequently be putting it in his report.

I'd say that was some craic! Tool! (not you Hank)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on April 30, 2009, 05:21:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 30, 2009, 04:37:28 PM
I hear its a tenner into the Og' pitch opening on Sunday. Madness.

Aye a tenner in and I heard Og's people proclaiming there will be 20,000 at it!!!!  :D
They were looking at using local companies carparks and busing supporters to the ground.....  ;D

There'll be swine fever everywhere witht the amount of Pigs in that location, and sure it'll be the Dublin hurlers they'll be playing...  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on April 30, 2009, 07:07:22 PM
anyone know the draw for next round of u21 championship?

anyone around the newry area read Oisin McConville's piece in the Newry Democrat. He's 100% right. This opening of Pearse Og's new place was known about by the county board at the start of the year and they do nothing then move the fixtures the week before it. We have boys going to a wedding and boys away this weekend who had arranged to be home sunday morning for the game. The county board dont care about anything but gettin fixtures ticked off the list and out of the way. South Armagh B games fixed for Sunday evening. Some of our young players have played Sunday, Wednesday and now there are games Saturday and Sunday before another game again on Wednesday and then senior league game on the Friday. Its a joke! So much for player burn-out! CCCC should wise up! There'll be damn all in Armagh on Sunday anyway, £10 in?? crazy!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on April 30, 2009, 10:42:48 PM
Quote from: Candyman on April 30, 2009, 05:21:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 30, 2009, 04:37:28 PM
I hear its a tenner into the Og' pitch opening on Sunday. Madness.

Aye a tenner in and I heard Og's people proclaiming there will be 20,000 at it!!!!  :D
They were looking at using local companies carparks and busing supporters to the ground.....  ;D

There'll be swine fever everywhere witht the amount of Pigs in that location, and sure it'll be the Dublin hurlers they'll be playing...  ;)

should play the game in the atheltic grounds!!:)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on May 01, 2009, 08:23:29 AM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on April 30, 2009, 10:42:48 PM
Quote from: Candyman on April 30, 2009, 05:21:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 30, 2009, 04:37:28 PM
I hear its a tenner into the Og' pitch opening on Sunday. Madness.

Aye a tenner in and I heard Og's people proclaiming there will be 20,000 at it!!!!  :D
They were looking at using local companies carparks and busing supporters to the ground.....  ;D

There'll be swine fever everywhere witht the amount of Pigs in that location, and sure it'll be the Dublin hurlers they'll be playing...  ;)

should play the game in the atheltic grounds!!:)
if you seen the state of the gaelic field ye wouldn't let pigs onto it ffs, the surface is a disgrace
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 01, 2009, 08:46:41 AM
Quote from: Candyman on April 30, 2009, 05:21:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 30, 2009, 04:37:28 PM
I hear its a tenner into the Og' pitch opening on Sunday. Madness.

Aye a tenner in and I heard Og's people proclaiming there will be 20,000 at it!!!!  :D
They were looking at using local companies carparks and busing supporters to the ground.....  ;D

There'll be swine fever everywhere witht the amount of Pigs in that location, and sure it'll be the Dublin hurlers they'll be playing...  ;)

:D :D Maybe face masks will be available at the gate!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: apres_match on May 01, 2009, 09:35:40 AM
Under 21 Football Championship Draw

Wednesday 6th May

Carrickcruppen v Maghery
Sarsfields v Harps
Killeavy v Eire Og
Ballymacnab v Keady
Tir na nOg v M'town
Cullyhannav v Silverbridge
St.Johns v Crossmaglen
Granemore v Mullaghbawn / Tullysarron
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 01, 2009, 11:43:56 AM
Quote from: Real1995 on April 30, 2009, 02:40:29 PM
Not for one minute am I proclaiming Mullaghbawn's innocence but it takes two to tangle.  I was just talking to one player last night who informed me that he was dropped kicked on the back from behind...which sounds like a cowardly act....and Hank there was apparently a number of Tullysarron supporters acting like Ricky hatton on the pitch as well during the brawl....

Does drop-kicking the ball not involve the ball bouncing off the ground first before making connection with the boot?

Can someone clear that up for me? Is that what was involved with the drop-kicking of the human here?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: screenmachine on May 01, 2009, 12:13:53 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 01, 2009, 11:43:56 AM
Quote from: Real1995 on April 30, 2009, 02:40:29 PM
Not for one minute am I proclaiming Mullaghbawn's innocence but it takes two to tangle.  I was just talking to one player last night who informed me that he was dropped kicked on the back from behind...which sounds like a cowardly act....and Hank there was apparently a number of Tullysarron supporters acting like Ricky hatton on the pitch as well during the brawl....

Does drop-kicking the ball not involve the ball bouncing off the ground first before making connection with the boot?

Can someone clear that up for me? Is that what was involved with the drop-kicking of the human here?

Now I wasn't at the match Ping Pong but apparently someone did pick up a human, bounced him of the ground and kicked him over the wire, leading to a mass brawl.  Unbelievable, isn't it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lothos on May 01, 2009, 01:12:28 PM
Was it just the head that went over the wire?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 01, 2009, 01:54:44 PM
That is quite remarkable really. I think the culprit should certainly be reprimanded immediately. I'd drop-kick the book at him!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: screenmachine on May 01, 2009, 02:48:47 PM
Quote from: Lothos on May 01, 2009, 01:12:28 PM
Was it just the head that went over the wire?

Naw, the whole body, went three rows back into the stand, twas an awful boot he received! As ping pong says, drop kick the book at him...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 01, 2009, 03:45:31 PM
I could be drop kicking a ping pong very soon... ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 01, 2009, 06:16:03 PM
And whatabout the Drop-Kick Murphys in all of this? Where they involved at all?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on May 01, 2009, 06:58:34 PM
The drop kick of the wrastling variety I would imagine:

(http://www.americanwrestlingfederation.com/dbl%20dropkick.jpg)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on May 02, 2009, 12:38:34 AM
Quote from: Candyman on April 30, 2009, 05:21:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 30, 2009, 04:37:28 PM
I hear its a tenner into the Og' pitch opening on Sunday. Madness.

Aye a tenner in and I heard Og's people proclaiming there will be 20,000 at it!!!!  :D
They were looking at using local companies carparks and busing supporters to the ground.....  ;D

There'll be swine fever everywhere witht the amount of Pigs in that location, and sure it'll be the Dublin hurlers they'll be playing...  ;)

i smell jealousy from a harps man  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 02, 2009, 08:03:37 AM
He wasn't too worried about swine flu on Thursday when he was at Pearse Og Park
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 02, 2009, 08:56:16 AM
Quote from: pearseog on May 02, 2009, 12:38:34 AM
Quote from: Candyman on April 30, 2009, 05:21:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 30, 2009, 04:37:28 PM
I hear its a tenner into the Og' pitch opening on Sunday. Madness.

Aye a tenner in and I heard Og's people proclaiming there will be 20,000 at it!!!!  :D
They were looking at using local companies carparks and busing supporters to the ground.....  ;D

There'll be swine fever everywhere witht the amount of Pigs in that location, and sure it'll be the Dublin hurlers they'll be playing...  ;)

i smell jealousy from a harps man  ;D

Credit where credit is due, the place looks excellent.... but ffs 20,000 at it??? Even you were bound to have had a wee chuckle at that now...  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 02, 2009, 09:25:16 AM
20,000!! that would be tidy alright.  you must have made that up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 02, 2009, 09:51:29 AM
Quote from: pearseog on May 02, 2009, 12:38:34 AM
Quote from: Candyman on April 30, 2009, 05:21:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on April 30, 2009, 04:37:28 PM
I hear its a tenner into the Og' pitch opening on Sunday. Madness.

Aye a tenner in and I heard Og's people proclaiming there will be 20,000 at it!!!!  :D
They were looking at using local companies carparks and busing supporters to the ground.....  ;D

There'll be swine fever everywhere witht the amount of Pigs in that location, and sure it'll be the Dublin hurlers they'll be playing...  ;)

i smell jealousy from a harps man  ;D

Will you be playing yourself Ronan?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 02, 2009, 09:56:14 AM
The Official Line-outs provided by the Armagh and Dublin Managers, are as follows:

Armagh:
                                              1. P.Hearty

2. Andy Mallon                        3. K.Toner                          4. B.Donaghy

5. Aaron Kernan                     6. C.Mc Keever                   7. C.Raffery

                              8. D Mc Kenna           9. C.Vernon

10. B.Mallon                           11. M O' Rourke                  12. P.Duffy

13. S.Mc Donnell                    14. R Clarke                        15. S Forker


Dublin:

                                             1. S.Cluxton

2. D.Henry                            3. D.Bastick                         4. A. Hubbard

5. P.Griffin                            6. G.Brennan                       7. B.Cahill

                             8. C.Whelan               9. D.Mc Gee

10. P.Flynn                           11. K.Bonner                        12. A.Brogan

13. C.Keaney                       14. M.Daveron                      15. B.Kelly
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 02, 2009, 10:54:05 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 02, 2009, 09:25:16 AM
20,000!! that would be tidy alright.  you must have made that up

Did not.... it was quoted from Ogs people!! Looking at using the shambles yard, McLaughlins carpark etc for parking and busing the masses to ballycrummy!!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 02, 2009, 10:57:46 AM
Quote from: Candyman on May 02, 2009, 10:54:05 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 02, 2009, 09:25:16 AM
20,000!! that would be tidy alright.  you must have made that up

Did not.... it was quoted from Ogs people!! Looking at using the shambles yard, McLaughlins carpark etc for parking and busing the masses to ballycrummy!!! ;D

Couple of hundred at Clann Eireann and Cullyhanna last year. Pearse Ógs might get a few more because its more central in the county, is on a Sunday unlike the match in Cullyhanna and has more attractive opposition than Clann Eireann. Won't be over 500 though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 02, 2009, 11:12:44 AM
It would be interesting to see how many Dubs make the trip
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 02, 2009, 11:53:53 AM
I reckon there'll be between 1500-2000 there...easy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 02, 2009, 12:05:14 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 02, 2009, 11:53:53 AM
I reckon there'll be between 1500-2000 there...easy

Was that a typo and should have read 15000 - 20000??  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 02, 2009, 12:41:16 PM
will u be there Candyman?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 02, 2009, 04:08:52 PM
Pay a tenner to watch the Dublin hurlers? I wouldn't think it lad...
Only winding Big-Son  ;D

Ye may watch someone doesn't superglue the padlocks again though???  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 02, 2009, 05:45:08 PM
I knew that was you that done that.  Bad cnut
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on May 02, 2009, 09:41:25 PM
In this evenings League games Culloville defeated Carricruppin - Newtown lost to Whitecross and Port Mor beat Shanes.
Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 03, 2009, 11:01:58 AM
The 'Bridge drew with Tir na og.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on May 03, 2009, 02:06:30 PM
cullyhanna need last years managers back they have no fight in them this year at all
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on May 03, 2009, 05:05:20 PM
So Armagh won 1-14 to 1-12 today. Tigger made it sound like a great game anyway :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on May 03, 2009, 05:32:10 PM
Not a great day for Armagh harps or Charlie Vernon.

Charlie was rushed to the Royal after a suspected broken jaw during the Armagh V Dublin game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 03, 2009, 06:01:59 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on May 03, 2009, 05:32:10 PM
Not a great day for Armagh harps or Charlie Vernon.

Charlie was rushed to the Royal after a suspected broken jaw during the Armagh V Dublin game.

For f**k's sake  >:( :(. Huge blow for Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 03, 2009, 06:43:24 PM
Went to the game, had hardly left the ground when I heard about the seriousness of Vernon's injury, f**king disaster on club and county front >:(  He's had no luck against the Dubs, it was last year at the opening of the Cullyhanna pitch that he broke a bone in his foot.  Couldn't say it was malicious, just a hospital pass that Charlie went for and the FB was entitled to go for, a shoulder down the front of  Vernon's body.

The game itself was decent, if not v competitive. Armagh played some excellent football in the first half, but were in double figures for wides by half time.  Stevie McDonnell looked razor sharp, must have scored 0-6.  The second half was a bit of a let down as nearly the entire 15 were replaced, letting the Dubs back into it, if we had've kept the starting 15 we would have won pulling up I'd imagine.  Paul Duffy playing at N12 had a blinder and could very well have put himself in the shake up for the champ.  I got the impression that Stephen Kernan played like he'd something to prove, but it didn't really go for him today.

Cant remember who did all the scoring: Stevie bout 0-6, Ryan Henderson, 0-2, D McKenna 0-1, think Vernon got the goal (although it was a Henderson effort that would have crossed the line), Brian Mallon 0-1, MOR 0-1, Duffy 0-1, TK 0-2.

The loss of Vernon could be catastrophic as David McKenna looked like a fish out of water in MF tbh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on May 03, 2009, 07:32:19 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on May 03, 2009, 05:32:10 PM
Not a great day for Armagh harps or Charlie Vernon.

Charlie was rushed to the Royal after a suspected broken jaw during the Armagh V Dublin game.

Real bad luck - Charlie is a real workhorse and he'll be a huge miss for club and county. Hope he's back soon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on May 03, 2009, 08:48:07 PM
Must say Armagh looked fairly sharp today, I still reckon too much has been made of the result in Cork. Real bad news about Vernon, he was going well, busted himself at one stage to get a ball back from about four Dubs on his own and gave the ball to MOR who duly gave it back to the Dubs!! As benny says there was nothing malicious in it but it's a real blow!!
I thought that the game was fairly competitive for a challenge game (it was a damn sight more competitive than last year's game in Cullyhanna) with Pat McEneaney letting a lot go although he did send a Dub to the line (although there was no red card) for a head high tackle on C McKeever. The standard of defending dropped dramatically in the second half when basically the whole back line was replaced. For me Paul Duffy was Armagh's best player with Stevie also excellent.
How long is Vernon likely to be out with a broken jaw? Weeks? Months?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on May 03, 2009, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: mackers on May 03, 2009, 08:48:07 PM
How long is Vernon likely to be out with a broken jaw? Weeks? Months?

From just doing a google search for sportsmen with this injury it would seem that it can be anywhere from 5 or 6 weeks up to several months. Suppose it depends how bad the fracture is, how well it heals, etc. If it turns out that he did break it, I'd say he's definitely out for Tyrone anyway. Huge blow  :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ArmaghGAAforum on May 03, 2009, 10:22:14 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on May 03, 2009, 05:32:10 PM
Not a great day for Armagh harps or Charlie Vernon.

Charlie was rushed to the Royal after a suspected broken jaw during the Armagh V Dublin game.

ah no! ffs Charlie was having his best season for the county and this is likely to rule him out of the tyrone game  :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on May 03, 2009, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: AFS on May 03, 2009, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: mackers on May 03, 2009, 08:48:07 PM
How long is Vernon likely to be out with a broken jaw? Weeks? Months?

From just doing a google search for sportsmen with this injury it would seem that it can be anywhere from 5 or 6 weeks up to several months. Suppose it depends how bad the fracture is, how well it heals, etc. If it turns out that he did break it, I'd say he's definitely out for Tyrone anyway. Huge blow  :(
Your right AFS, having suffered this a few years ago, it will depend how bad the break is and were. In my case it was 16 weeks, but i had 3 breaks 2 on the lower cheek bone and 1 on the upper.  he should be informed that if he goes to the oxygen chamber it will drastically speed up the healing process, and there's a chance he could feature against Tryone if this was done pronto.  Do you know how if it's just 1 break or more.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: judas1 on May 03, 2009, 11:55:57 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on May 03, 2009, 11:08:25 PM
Quote from: AFS on May 03, 2009, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: mackers on May 03, 2009, 08:48:07 PM
How long is Vernon likely to be out with a broken jaw? Weeks? Months?

From just doing a google search for sportsmen with this injury it would seem that it can be anywhere from 5 or 6 weeks up to several months. Suppose it depends how bad the fracture is, how well it heals, etc. If it turns out that he did break it, I'd say he's definitely out for Tyrone anyway. Huge blow  :(
Your right AFS, having suffered this a few years ago, it will depend how bad the break is and were. In my case it was 16 weeks, but i had 3 breaks 2 on the lower cheek bone and 1 on the upper.  he should be informed that if he goes to the oxygen chamber it will drastically speed up the healing process, and there's a chance he could feature against Tryone if this was done pronto.  Do you know how if it's just 1 break or more.
his jaw is broke in 2 places he will be out for 12 weeks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 04, 2009, 08:38:46 AM
I actually thought that the Dublin full back went in to "do" Charlie. IMO He made no attempt to go for the ball, he went to hit the player! Well done Bastic!  :-\

A disappointing way to finish an entertaining game, from which the Armagh team showed real promise, with Charlie & Stevie excelling along with the Armagh full back line.

Get well soon Charlie!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 04, 2009, 02:57:27 PM
Talking to a few team mates there who had been textin Charlie... Metal plate inserted lastnight!! >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stevie Nicks on May 04, 2009, 03:31:48 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 04, 2009, 08:38:46 AM
I actually thought that the Dublin full back went in to "do" Charlie. IMO He made no attempt to go for the ball, he went to hit the player! Well done Bastic!  :-\

A disappointing way to finish an entertaining game, from which the Armagh team showed real promise, with Charlie & Stevie excelling along with the Armagh full back line.

Get well soon Charlie!


Bit unfair was a hospital pass to Charlie and the defender had every right to go for it, one of those things. Is a massive blow to whatever chance we had in Clones. Big question now is who will make up our midfield?? Played Toner at fullback yesterday assume he will be back out but who with Lavery / McKenna ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on May 04, 2009, 03:42:46 PM
Quotehis jaw is broke in 2 places he will be out for 12 weeks.


............ by which time we'll be well and truly out of the AI Championship!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on May 04, 2009, 04:15:26 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on May 04, 2009, 03:42:46 PM
Quotehis jaw is broke in 2 places he will be out for 12 weeks.


............ by which time we'll be well and truly out of the AI Championship!

Sure you don't rate Charlie anyway, Sandy.  Or have you changed your opinion.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 04, 2009, 05:37:53 PM
Terrible news for Charlie and for Armagh.  Reports say that it was a hospital ball and the full back shouldered him full frontal.  there doesn't seem to be much made of this tackle, which by description sounds a small bit similar to Francie's on Mickey Linden a few years ago after a hospital pass from Coulter.

Time now to look forward and see what can be done.  Given the nature of the game that Tyrone play I have a wild suggestion.  Obviously play Toner out round the middle, but throw Aaron Kernan in there.  He can run all day, is comfortable on the ball, Tyrone never dominate the mid field sector so there is no real need for a dominating pair in the middle.  Only a thought.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 04, 2009, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 04, 2009, 05:37:53 PM
Terrible news for Charlie and for Armagh.  Reports say that it was a hospital ball and the full back shouldered him full frontal.  there doesn't seem to be much made of this tackle, which by description sounds a small bit similar to Francie's on Mickey Linden a few years ago after a hospital pass from Coulter.

Time now to look forward and see what can be done.  Given the nature of the game that Tyrone play I have a wild suggestion.  Obviously play Toner out round the middle, but throw Aaron Kernan in there.  He can run all day, is comfortable on the ball, Tyrone never dominate the mid field sector so there is no real need for a dominating pair in the middle.  Only a thought.


I like the thinking outside the box BC, but wouldn't go for that at all.

I get what you're saying about not needing to dominate, but he would be operating in a cluttered zonbe and that would take away his best attributes - galloping into space and having time on the ball to pick out a great pass.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 04, 2009, 06:15:31 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 04, 2009, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 04, 2009, 05:37:53 PM
Terrible news for Charlie and for Armagh.  Reports say that it was a hospital ball and the full back shouldered him full frontal.  there doesn't seem to be much made of this tackle, which by description sounds a small bit similar to Francie's on Mickey Linden a few years ago after a hospital pass from Coulter.

Time now to look forward and see what can be done.  Given the nature of the game that Tyrone play I have a wild suggestion.  Obviously play Toner out round the middle, but throw Aaron Kernan in there.  He can run all day, is comfortable on the ball, Tyrone never dominate the mid field sector so there is no real need for a dominating pair in the middle.  Only a thought.


I like the thinking outside the box BC, but wouldn't go for that at all.

I get what you're saying about not needing to dominate, but he would be operating in a cluttered zonbe and that would take away his best attributes - galloping into space and having time on the ball to pick out a great pass.

I actually think it might be a case that both teams would not use their midfield at all and that there would actually be more space.  Keep the half back line deep, do not get involved in a slugging match between the 50's, play McEvoy in goals(you'll love me for saying that) hit the wing positions with the kick outs and run the ball into the space to allow the longer pace into the FF line.  Toner and McKeever can hold the centre and the wing backs and Aaron can run like fug forward creating the overlap.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 04, 2009, 06:26:25 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 04, 2009, 06:15:31 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 04, 2009, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 04, 2009, 05:37:53 PM
Terrible news for Charlie and for Armagh.  Reports say that it was a hospital ball and the full back shouldered him full frontal.  there doesn't seem to be much made of this tackle, which by description sounds a small bit similar to Francie's on Mickey Linden a few years ago after a hospital pass from Coulter.

Time now to look forward and see what can be done.  Given the nature of the game that Tyrone play I have a wild suggestion.  Obviously play Toner out round the middle, but throw Aaron Kernan in there.  He can run all day, is comfortable on the ball, Tyrone never dominate the mid field sector so there is no real need for a dominating pair in the middle.  Only a thought.


I like the thinking outside the box BC, but wouldn't go for that at all.

I get what you're saying about not needing to dominate, but he would be operating in a cluttered zonbe and that would take away his best attributes - galloping into space and having time on the ball to pick out a great pass.

I actually think it might be a case that both teams would not use their midfield at all and that there would actually be more space.  Keep the half back line deep, do not get involved in a slugging match between the 50's, play McEvoy in goals(you'll love me for saying that) hit the wing positions with the kick outs and run the ball into the space to allow the longer pace into the FF line.  Toner and McKeever can hold the centre and the wing backs and Aaron can run like fug forward creating the overlap.
I do indeed love you now.  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on May 04, 2009, 09:42:40 PM
Harps beat Clans by a point............brutal match IMO.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on May 04, 2009, 09:56:33 PM
Quote from: Skiddybadoo on May 04, 2009, 04:15:26 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on May 04, 2009, 03:42:46 PM
Quotehis jaw is broke in 2 places he will be out for 12 weeks.


............ by which time we'll be well and truly out of the AI Championship!

Sure you don't rate Charlie anyway, Sandy.  Or have you changed your opinion.

Skiddy, I don't think I ever said that I didn't rate him - I said that I had a reservation about him! Having said that, there's no doubt that we'll miss him big-time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on May 04, 2009, 10:05:12 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 04, 2009, 06:15:31 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 04, 2009, 05:43:43 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 04, 2009, 05:37:53 PM
Terrible news for Charlie and for Armagh.  Reports say that it was a hospital ball and the full back shouldered him full frontal.  there doesn't seem to be much made of this tackle, which by description sounds a small bit similar to Francie's on Mickey Linden a few years ago after a hospital pass from Coulter.

Time now to look forward and see what can be done.  Given the nature of the game that Tyrone play I have a wild suggestion.  Obviously play Toner out round the middle, but throw Aaron Kernan in there.  He can run all day, is comfortable on the ball, Tyrone never dominate the mid field sector so there is no real need for a dominating pair in the middle.  Only a thought.


I like the thinking outside the box BC, but wouldn't go for that at all.

I get what you're saying about not needing to dominate, but he would be operating in a cluttered zonbe and that would take away his best attributes - galloping into space and having time on the ball to pick out a great pass.

I actually think it might be a case that both teams would not use their midfield at all and that there would actually be more space.  Keep the half back line deep, do not get involved in a slugging match between the 50's, play McEvoy in goals(you'll love me for saying that) hit the wing positions with the kick outs and run the ball into the space to allow the longer pace into the FF line.  Toner and McKeever can hold the centre and the wing backs and Aaron can run like fug forward creating the overlap.
Think that the obvious replacement is your club mate McKenna, although I still reckon he has some way to go to be an inter county midfielder, as you say Tyrone don't really use their midfield and as such the game would suit David. He has tons of ability on the ball and plenty of pace and Vernon's bad luck could prove to be a big opportunity for him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on May 04, 2009, 11:32:22 PM
I think the final score from Harps game was 1-06 to 0-08.

I didnt get to the game tonight but from what I hear it was an awful game.

A win is a win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 05, 2009, 11:32:05 AM
Interesting,what was this harps game in because the clans had no match. I take it you guys are refering to Clann Eireann?? I have seen several posts on here refering to Clann Eireann as the clans but i always thought there was only one team called that and it was Clan Na Gael. This is the case in North Armagh anyway. just as a matter of interest who would the rest of you guys call the clans????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on May 05, 2009, 11:34:44 AM
Decent game on sunday - made all the sweeter by an ogs steward letting me slip in for nothing!

Armagh played some nice football with the strong breeze in the first half. with marty o'rourke, stevie and duffy all linking well.
vernon was competing hard around the middle but he had no help from McKenna, who looked intimidated by whelan.
disappointed with forker, who made good runs and got into good positions but could not old onto the ball.

full back line was solid, although donaghy made a lot of errors in possession. mallon was great.
rafferty bombed forward well but, again, hasn't any defensive awareness at all. ak did his usual job and wasneat and tidy. harte will have a plan for him come the 31st. McKeever had a poor first 20 mins - seemed not to know what his instructions were. eventually when he dropped off the roaming brogan he picked up a lot of loose ball and tightened everything up ithink brogan scored 5 o dublin's 6 first half points.

for dublin, they seemed to lack any sort of structure or plan. lally started wing back on duffy and got roasted. cullen couldn't get near o'rourke and the poor corner back on McDonnell got an awful lesson too. whelan dominated midfield for long periods and looks to be moving well. not sure abot ross mcconnell. alan brogan had a good first half and lally did well when he was moved to wing forward.

the second half was a bit of a farce with the entire team changed. overal it was a good run out but definitely lacked bite.
terrible news on big charlie. best ishes to the fella.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on May 05, 2009, 03:26:22 PM
Thought the armagh team played well. the full back line was rock solid. Andy Mallon totally cleaning sherlock

I thought the half back line was also very good. rafferty caused the dubs alot of trouble going forward and was assured in his defensive duties, mckeever when he switched to the holding role mopped up and tackled anything that moved extremely well, aaron kernan was again very assured on the ball and gave some nice passes.

vernon was good in midfield, getting some strong tackles in and mckenna would need more game time if he is to be ready for tyrone.

Duffy was the pick of the half forwards and will feature in the tyrone game either starting or coming on as a sub. O'rourke got through a mountain of work and this match will stand him in good stead.i thought brian mallon also put in a lot of work and scored a nice point.

Mc Donnell was brilliant. If he plays like this against tyrone they will not be able to cope with him. here's hoping. henderson scored some lovely points and will feature in the championship at some stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on May 05, 2009, 03:51:58 PM
Quote from: davo on May 05, 2009, 03:26:22 PM
mckenna would need more game time if he is to be ready for tyrone.

.
have we any more friendlys lined up
are armagh heading to spain, bath anywhere this year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: aroundincircles on May 05, 2009, 07:00:01 PM
Has Big Audi left Tullysaran or was he sacked or what?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 05, 2009, 09:33:09 PM
(http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:4qLTFtKo-kQYWM:http://sportswrap.berecruited.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/sloth-goonies.jpg)


Ruth baby ruth ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on May 05, 2009, 09:51:46 PM
Quote from: aroundincircles on May 05, 2009, 07:00:01 PM
Has Big Audi left Tullysaran or was he sacked or what?

Heard last night that he was pushed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 05, 2009, 10:36:51 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 05, 2009, 09:33:09 PM
(http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:4qLTFtKo-kQYWM:http://sportswrap.berecruited.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/sloth-goonies.jpg)


Ruth baby ruth ;D

Win this did not cause friction before? I would delete it lad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 06, 2009, 08:06:01 AM
Quote from: aroundincircles on May 05, 2009, 07:00:01 PM
Has Big Audi left Tullysaran or was he sacked or what?

Heard Peter Rafferty is now in charge.

Also heard Port Mor have changed their manager...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 06, 2009, 10:45:22 AM
Yes corn you would delete it. I on the other hand will not ;). As i haven't mentioned any names i have merely posted a picture up with a term from the movie it is up to the lads how they interpret it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on May 06, 2009, 11:03:36 AM

Portydown managerless as well?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on May 06, 2009, 11:17:43 AM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on May 05, 2009, 09:51:46 PM
Quote from: aroundincircles on May 05, 2009, 07:00:01 PM
Has Big Audi left Tullysaran or was he sacked or what?

Heard last night that he was pushed.

Dont think he was pushed, was more a case that the people running the club were constantly putting obstacles in his way, and he didnt take too kindly to it. Apparently theres alot of petty politics in the club and i believe he wasnt standing for it. I heard that he walked because of the way the club in general was treating the players.

I do know that the players thought alot of him cos he stood up for them, and the commitee wanted to break the bond between him and them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 06, 2009, 12:54:41 PM
Quote from: border rabbit on May 06, 2009, 11:17:43 AM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on May 05, 2009, 09:51:46 PM
Quote from: aroundincircles on May 05, 2009, 07:00:01 PM
Has Big Audi left Tullysaran or was he sacked or what?

Heard last night that he was pushed.


I do know that the players thought alot of him cos he stood up for them, and the commitee wanted to break the bond between him and them.

not all of them...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on May 06, 2009, 01:17:20 PM
getting worse than the premiership,three games in and three clubs looking new managers ???are clubs looking instant success now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on May 06, 2009, 05:28:13 PM


I do know that the players thought alot of him cos he stood up for them, and the commitee wanted to break the bond between him and them.
[/quote]

not all of them...
[/quote]

well the way it was put to me was that anyone who was capable of playing football and wanted to play thought alot of him, the 1s that couldnt kick barn doors and who wouldnt get a game on a PSP liked him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 06, 2009, 08:38:10 PM
Quote from: border rabbit on May 06, 2009, 05:28:13 PM


I do know that the players thought alot of him cos he stood up for them, and the commitee wanted to break the bond between him and them.

not all of them...
[/quote]

well the way it was put to me was that anyone who was capable of playing football and wanted to play thought alot of him, the 1s that couldnt kick barn doors and who wouldnt get a game on a PSP liked him
[/quote]

So everyone liked him then except the committee...Love is in the air...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on May 06, 2009, 10:19:59 PM
Any of you lads hear anything about Charlie Vernon's injury and that it might be worse than first feared ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 06, 2009, 10:33:03 PM
Hope not. REad some of the stuff and it is worrying indeed  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2009, 10:40:08 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on May 06, 2009, 10:33:03 PM
Hope not. REad some of the stuff and it is worrying indeed  :-\
Sincerely hope it's not true, would be a terrible tragedy.
That said Charlie's health is obviously far more important than football. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 06, 2009, 11:30:32 PM
any under 21 results? cruppen beat maghery by the minimum after extra time. awful night for football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: apres_match on May 07, 2009, 12:10:42 AM
killeavy won well against Eire Og.....strong performance from the Killeavy defence & keeper
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 07, 2009, 12:11:59 AM
sarsfields stuffed the harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 07, 2009, 12:14:18 AM
from orchardcounty

Under-21 Football Championships – Quarter-finals
Tir na nÓg/Middletown v Sarsfields
St John's/Crossmaglen v Keady
Killeavey v St Patrick's/Silverbridge
Granemore/Mullaghbawn/Tullysaran v Carrickcruppen

does anyone what happening with mullaghbawn/tullysaran?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on May 07, 2009, 12:36:04 AM
Quote from: apres_match on May 07, 2009, 12:10:42 AM
killeavy won well against Eire Og.....strong performance from the Killeavy defence & keeper

If yous didnt win well then it would be a worry tbf
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: judas1 on May 07, 2009, 08:58:42 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2009, 10:40:08 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on May 06, 2009, 10:33:03 PM
Hope not. REad some of the stuff and it is worrying indeed  :-\
Sincerely hope it's not true, would be a terrible tragedy.
That said Charlie's health is obviously far more important than football. 

ABSOLUTE 100% RUBBISH, FINISH THIS RUMOUR NOW, WHOEVER POSTED THIS SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on May 07, 2009, 09:13:22 AM
cullyhanna beat the bridge by 5/6, had only 14 men for last 15 minutes but bridge only got lead down to 3 points before cullyhanna notched on another few scores near the end, was fairly good game considering the conditions it was played in!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 07, 2009, 09:14:35 AM
Charlie's recovery period is going to be normal.  He's been told he can train in 4 weeks(non-contact), full contact training after 6 weeks and then it's up to himself, so he could be playing in July.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 07, 2009, 09:25:57 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 07, 2009, 09:14:35 AM
Charlie's recovery period is going to be normal.  He's been told he can train in 4 weeks(non-contact), full contact training after 6 weeks and then it's up to himself, so he could be playing in July.

Thats more like the news we want to hear Benny...good luck Charlie and hope to see you back playing in the Ulster final ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 07, 2009, 10:06:44 AM
He won't be unless he gets a transfer saan ;) But hope he gets on well with that injury i think he is a strong enough lad to come back from that .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on May 07, 2009, 10:08:55 AM
Quote from: judas1 on May 07, 2009, 08:58:42 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2009, 10:40:08 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on May 06, 2009, 10:33:03 PM
Hope not. REad some of the stuff and it is worrying indeed  :-\
Sincerely hope it's not true, would be a terrible tragedy.
That said Charlie's health is obviously far more important than football. 

ABSOLUTE 100% RUBBISH, FINISH THIS RUMOUR NOW, WHOEVER POSTED THIS SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES.

If bennydorano is correct, then I'm hanging my head in shame......I don't have a problem admitting I'm wrong.....unlike some of the gods on here.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on May 07, 2009, 10:10:01 AM
Lads, probably a bit late with this but there is a quiz on in the Tir na nOg clubrooms tomorrow night (Friday 8th). First prize £100 if anyone is interested, including Tony!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 12:42:13 PM
Quote from: judas1 on May 07, 2009, 08:58:42 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2009, 10:40:08 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on May 06, 2009, 10:33:03 PM
Hope not. REad some of the stuff and it is worrying indeed  :-\
Sincerely hope it's not true, would be a terrible tragedy.
That said Charlie's health is obviously far more important than football. 

ABSOLUTE 100% RUBBISH, FINISH THIS RUMOUR NOW, WHOEVER POSTED THIS SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES.

Relax the cacks!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 07, 2009, 12:56:53 PM
If bennydorano is correct, then I'm hanging my head in shame......I don't have a problem admitting I'm wrong.....unlike some of the gods on here.  [/quote]

Gods?? Im the only God on here saan! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Dannymcfella on May 07, 2009, 01:59:47 PM
Hi there folks,

With the championship just around the corner, from now on in you will see various fantasy football competitions springing up, myself and a few other memebrs of our club have taken it upon ourselves to run a competition of our own as a fundraiser. Hopefully we will get alot of interest in it, weve kept the entry fee reasonably low, its a pretty straight forward competition, all the rules, scoring chart, and player lists ect can be found on our website, so why not have a nosey at it. I hope when you are deciding upon which of the competitions available to enter you will give us a thought, we may not have a flashy website with all the graphics, but in entering this competition, you will be supporting one of youre very own clubs. If you have any queries about the competition you can email me at clannnabanna@hotmail.co.uk

To view the competition just log on to clannnabanna.down.gaa.ie and click on the competitions link


PM me any queries
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 07, 2009, 03:36:10 PM
what are you at ha ha!!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 07, 2009, 09:56:42 PM
There are a few new managers in division 1 of the league feeling the heat already.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 07, 2009, 10:10:29 PM
Quote from: crossfire on May 07, 2009, 09:56:42 PM
There are a few new managers in division 1 of the league feeling the heat already.

And who might they be?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 07, 2009, 10:17:42 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 07, 2009, 12:42:13 PM
Quote from: judas1 on May 07, 2009, 08:58:42 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 06, 2009, 10:40:08 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on May 06, 2009, 10:33:03 PM
Hope not. REad some of the stuff and it is worrying indeed  :-\
Sincerely hope it's not true, would be a terrible tragedy.
That said Charlie's health is obviously far more important than football. 

ABSOLUTE 100% RUBBISH, FINISH THIS RUMOUR NOW, WHOEVER POSTED THIS SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES.

Relax the cacks!

Exactly!! Obviously no one wants the lad's career to be finished. The initial rumour was started by someone saying what they heard and wasn't intended as an insult. How many people here have left a comment about a rumour they have heard. They obviously heard it from someone who thinks that they're in the know, ashamed of themselves? Well, I would lose any sleep over it!! If it's true or not, I wish Charlie a speedy recovery and hope to see him back in the Armagh colours soon (maybe not the Harps colours so much :P). The person taking it thick should maybe chill out abit, there's worse things been said on this forum before
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 07, 2009, 11:54:41 PM
Clans beat by about 6pts tonight at home to Culloville. The score doesn't do it justice as the Clans were well in it with about 8 mins to go when Culloville scored a goal from a mistake in the middle from the Clans. Culloville played with the wind in the first half and scored a point with their 1st attack but 5 minutes later Clans forward tried to score a point against the wind and it dropped short to another forward who scored a goal to put the Clans 3-1 up. Culloville then rattled of a few scores and took control of the game, the Clans rallied in the last few minutes of the half with 2pts to go in 01-02 to 0-08 behind.

The second half started well for the Clans who opened the scoring which reduced it to 2pts, minutes later we got a free on the 13m line and hit the post with it and it was cleared. We continued to hit another 3-4 wides in a row and you just knew what was gonna happen for not taking your scores Culloville went up the field against the run of play and scored a goal, as soon as the goal went in Clans heads dropped and as they say the rest is history :(.

Fair play to Culloville they never gave up even when we were on top at the start of the 2nd half and deserved the 2pts but it was a closer game than the scoreline suggests.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on May 08, 2009, 01:17:13 AM
QuoteClans beat by about 6pts tonight at home to Culloville.

Culloville are always on the list of teams that are supposed to be relegated, and they haven't the biggest pick in Div 1. But having held their own in the early part of the season when other teams have county players they should do OK later on in the season.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 08, 2009, 10:01:14 AM
I don't know lads i thought they were poor enough last night that culloville side but that doesn't say a lot for us. I have to say though the condition under foot were in no way good for either of the teams. The difference between the two teams was probably the scoring threat that Culloville carried with the two Hatzer lads up front. If them lads get a sniff at all they know where the net is. The clans on the other hand would find it difficult at the minute scoring in a brothel. The game was what you would have expected from a thursday night game. Both teams found it hard to get up for the game (oh and i think there were 9 points in it at the end saan ;) ) and i think it gonna be a long long year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have to mention the ref aswell lads who was a yosemite sam lookalike all was missing was the hooting tooting varment speech and the wee cowboy boots.He gave culloville a lot of soft free kicks in the first half resulting in three or four scores. He also let number 7 for culloville blatantly laying the boot into a clans man without even booking him (infact he booked two of our players for complaining about it) but the best part came when he witnessed Marty Lavery getting pushed over the line almost into the fence he gave a sideline ball to culloville ( when questioned on the decision his explaination was he jumped ;D ;D ;D best answer i have ever heard) But when further pushed on the incident he said sure i know him aswell as you know him by now (what this had got to do with that match or that tackle baffles me) What it does tell me is that certain referees come into games with the intention to give certain players fook all. But it must be stressed the game wasn't great and Culloville deserved the victory.

(http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:nrNWpSV1OtDWsM:http://www.mchenrycountyblog.com/uploaded_images/Mud%2520Flap-%2520Back%2520Off%2520-Yosemite%2520Sam-739762.jpg)

well done ref
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 08, 2009, 10:24:02 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 08, 2009, 10:01:14 AM
The clans on the other hand would find it difficult at the minute scoring in a brothel.

I know of 1 boy from the Clans that could help them out there ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 08, 2009, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: full back on May 08, 2009, 10:24:02 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 08, 2009, 10:01:14 AM
The clans on the other hand would find it difficult at the minute scoring in a brothel.

I know of 1 boy from the Clans that could help them out there ;)

I wonder who that could be ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 08, 2009, 11:17:27 AM
Quote from: illdecide on May 08, 2009, 11:08:20 AM
Quote from: full back on May 08, 2009, 10:24:02 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 08, 2009, 10:01:14 AM
The clans on the other hand would find it difficult at the minute scoring in a brothel.

I know of 1 boy from the Clans that could help them out there ;)

I wonder who that could be ???

There'd be a brave few candidates that I know of :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 08, 2009, 12:29:05 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 08, 2009, 10:01:14 AM
I don't know lads i thought they were poor enough last night that culloville side but that doesn't say a lot for us. I have to say though the condition under foot were in no way good for either of the teams. The difference between the two teams was probably the scoring threat that Culloville carried with the two Hatzer lads up front. If them lads get a sniff at all they know where the net is. The clans on the other hand would find it difficult at the minute scoring in a brothel. The game was what you would have expected from a thursday night game. Both teams found it hard to get up for the game (oh and i think there were 9 points in it at the end saan ;) ) and i think it gonna be a long long year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have to mention the ref aswell lads who was a yosemite sam lookalike all was missing was the hooting tooting varment speech and the wee cowboy boots.He gave culloville a lot of soft free kicks in the first half resulting in three or four scores. He also let number 7 for culloville blatantly laying the boot into a clans man without even booking him (infact he booked two of our players for complaining about it) but the best part came when he witnessed Marty Lavery getting pushed over the line almost into the fence he gave a sideline ball to culloville ( when questioned on the decision his explaination was he jumped ;D ;D ;D best answer i have ever heard) But when further pushed on the incident he said sure i know him aswell as you know him by now (what this had got to do with that match or that tackle baffles me) What it does tell me is that certain referees come into games with the intention to give certain players fook all. But it must be stressed the game wasn't great and Culloville deserved the victory.

(http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:nrNWpSV1OtDWsM:http://www.mchenrycountyblog.com/uploaded_images/Mud%2520Flap-%2520Back%2520Off%2520-Yosemite%2520Sam-739762.jpg)

well done ref
Clans don't have much of a scoring threat, defensively I would say they are sound enough but struggle at the other end to put scores on the board. it will be a slog alright this year but sure didn't killeavy lose their first 6 matches last year or something to that effect? culloville won't set the world on fire but they are a solid side who finished high up the league last year and will probably do likewise this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 08, 2009, 06:31:57 PM
wat time 2 nights games at 7.30?thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 08, 2009, 09:14:02 PM
cross 1-14 sarsfields 1-9

scrappy enough game cross never really got out of 2nd gear very heavy pitch.  had a very strong team out hearty,ak,jd,b mckeown, paul k,tony,k, mckenna to name a few.  tony kernan showed very well and oisin scored a clinical goal in the 2nd half
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
Carrickcruppen 1-05 Dromintee 0-09

I must say Cruppen played some pretty horrible stuff. I was very disappointed they were anywhere near us and its an indication of how poor we were tonight. We were missing some players through injury but we certainly had more than enough on the field to be far too much for Cruppen. If Cruppen continue like that I think they will struggle.

However bad we were, a win is a win and its 2 more points in the bag.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 08, 2009, 09:35:58 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 08, 2009, 09:14:02 PM
cross 1-14 sarsfields 1-9

scrappy enough game cross never really got out of 2nd gear very heavy pitch.  had a very strong team out hearty,ak,jd,b mckeown, paul k,tony,k, mckenna to name a few.  tony kernan showed very well and oisin scored a clinical goal in the 2nd half
cross fans weren't the only ones smiling after that match lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 08, 2009, 09:38:18 PM
Pearse Ogs 2-21

Mullabawn 0-4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:40:31 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 08, 2009, 09:38:18 PM
Pearse Ogs 2-21

Mullabawn 0-4

Jesus!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rattle-the-net on May 08, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
Carrickcruppen 1-05 Dromintee 0-09

I must say Cruppen played some pretty horrible stuff. I was very disappointed they were anywhere near us and its an indication of how poor we were tonight. We were missing some players through injury but we certainly had more than enough on the field to be far too much for Cruppen. If Cruppen continue like that I think they will struggle.

However bad we were, a win is a win and its 2 more points in the bag.

Cruppin should have had that game dead and buired at half time!! they hit i think 8-10 wides in the first half, ref give dromintee some easy frees at cruital points in the second half!

And to be honest i wudnt say that is was because dromintee were bad, cruppin outplayed dromintee in most areas of the field, had about 70% posession in the first with it being 50/50 in the second half! they just just through it away, another game cruppin should have won!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 08, 2009, 10:40:07 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:40:31 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 08, 2009, 09:38:18 PM
Pearse Ogs 2-21

Mullabawn 0-4

Jesus!

Thought bawn may struggle this year but that a ridiculous score!think it be between them cruppen and clans for the drop on the opening few weeks anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 10:44:02 PM
Quote from: rattle-the-net on May 08, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
Carrickcruppen 1-05 Dromintee 0-09

I must say Cruppen played some pretty horrible stuff. I was very disappointed they were anywhere near us and its an indication of how poor we were tonight. We were missing some players through injury but we certainly had more than enough on the field to be far too much for Cruppen. If Cruppen continue like that I think they will struggle.

However bad we were, a win is a win and its 2 more points in the bag.

Cruppin should have had that game dead and buired at half time!! they hit i think 8-10 wides in the first half, ref give dromintee some easy frees at cruital points in the second half!

And to be honest i wudnt say that is was because dromintee were bad, cruppin outplayed dromintee in most areas of the field, had about 70% posession in the first with it being 50/50 in the second half! they just just through it away, another game cruppin should have won!!!

Cruppen could not tackle at all, serious problem with fouling all over the field. Are you aware that the ref in question would have done anything he could to have had Dromintee beat?

If Cruppen outplayed Dromintee (they didn't as the scoreline suggests - came close though) it is because Dromintee were bad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on May 08, 2009, 11:33:01 PM
Cullyhanna 10 Killeavey 4

Good win for the pats despite having midfielder sent off for 2 yellow cards. No stevie for Killeavey though. Good battling performance with an awesome display from Eugene Casey in almost unplayable conditions.

Backs and midfield worked really hard and good to see a better appetite from our lads. Great displays from Stephen Reel Eoin Mc Ardle, Brookie and Paidi Mc Creesh in defence. Tony Donnelly worked hard with Ciaran o hare and Mal round midfield with all the forwards woking hard under pressure.

Terry Toner made his debut in goal and done well.

Match should never have been played due to waterlogged pitch. Still its a great two points for us and badly needed as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cillsleibhe on May 08, 2009, 11:42:36 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on May 08, 2009, 11:33:01 PM
Cullyhanna 10 Killeavey 4

Good win for the pats despite having midfielder sent off for 2 yellow cards. No stevie for Killeavey though. Good battling performance with an awesome display from Eugene Casey in almost unplayable conditions.

Backs and midfield worked really hard and good to see a better appetite from our lads. Great displays from Stephen Reel Eoin Mc Ardle, Brookie and Paidi Mc Creesh in defence. Tony Donnelly worked hard with Ciaran o hare and Mal round midfield with all the forwards woking hard under pressure.

Terry Toner made his debut in goal and done well.

Match should never have been played due to waterlogged pitch. Still its a great two points for us and badly needed as well.

I think the match actually finished St. Pat's 0.09 - Killeavy 0.03

The match should never have been played as conditions underfoot were terrible and the players were splashing through puddles all over the field.  Don't want to take anything away from St. Pat's who were far more up for the game than a strangely lethargic Killeavy.  We had only one shot on goal in the second half and were guilty of overplaying the ball all over the field.  St. Pat's were far more direct and thoroughly deserved their win.

You should also have mentioned that Killeavy's midfielder was also sent off for two yellow cards as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on May 08, 2009, 11:46:08 PM
paul duffy was brilliant tonight. along with shorty and sean moore.
anto duffy and mark cullen got the goals, antos being the end product of a brilliant ogs move. mullabawn will struggle this year based on what i seen tonight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 09, 2009, 12:56:16 AM
Silverbridge 1.12 -Ballyhegan 3.09
Tale of 2 halves. Davitt's up by 12 early in the second half, but fair dues to the Bridge, they. battled back, changed a few men and went more direct.  Best for Davitt's were Mel Courtney, Paddy Marley, Paddy McKeever and Shane McCormack. Best for Silverbridge was the corner forward and ginger midfielder. Important 2 points away from home! Bridge might struggle...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 09, 2009, 12:58:09 AM
Quote from: rattle-the-net on May 08, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
Carrickcruppen 1-05 Dromintee 0-09

I must say Cruppen played some pretty horrible stuff. I was very disappointed they were anywhere near us and its an indication of how poor we were tonight. We were missing some players through injury but we certainly had more than enough on the field to be far too much for Cruppen. If Cruppen continue like that I think they will struggle.

However bad we were, a win is a win and its 2 more points in the bag.

Cruppin should have had that game dead and buired at half time!! they hit i think 8-10 wides in the first half, ref give dromintee some easy frees at cruital points in the second half!

And to be honest i wudnt say that is was because dromintee were bad, cruppin outplayed dromintee in most areas of the field, had about 70% posession in the first with it being 50/50 in the second half! they just just through it away, another game cruppin should have won!!!

I have spoken to seven people now, some of who would love nothing better than to get their boot into the Dromintee senior team, all of whom said Dromintee totally dominated proceedings and only for some absolutely shitting play by themselves they would have won it at a canter.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 09, 2009, 08:48:23 AM
Ballymacnab V Newtown game called off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: celtic on May 09, 2009, 10:58:15 AM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 10:44:02 PM
Quote from: rattle-the-net on May 08, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
Carrickcruppen 1-05 Dromintee 0-09

I must say Cruppen played some pretty horrible stuff. I was very disappointed they were anywhere near us and its an indication of how poor we were tonight. We were missing some players through injury but we certainly had more than enough on the field to be far too much for Cruppen. If Cruppen continue like that I think they will struggle.

However bad we were, a win is a win and its 2 more points in the bag.

Cruppin should have had that game dead and buired at half time!! they hit i think 8-10 wides in the first half, ref give dromintee some easy frees at cruital points in the second half!

And to be honest i wudnt say that is was because dromintee were bad, cruppin outplayed dromintee in most areas of the field, had about 70% posession in the first with it being 50/50 in the second half! they just just through it away, another game cruppin should have won!!!

Cruppen could not tackle at all, serious problem with fouling all over the field. Are you aware that the ref in question would have done anything he could to have had Dromintee beat?

If Cruppen outplayed Dromintee (they didn't as the scoreline suggests - came close though) it is because Dromintee were bad.

i dont no what match u were watching rattle the net because the game i seen domintee were the better team but just cudn score as per usual. cruppen have no scoring power up front bar peter loughran who had a good game as for the rest of the forward they are nothing mre than average b players..
the poor underfoot conditions def favoured cruppen as every ball was hard fought and stopped dromintee from exposing this cruppen team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 09, 2009, 11:22:20 AM
Quote from: celtic on May 09, 2009, 10:58:15 AMthe poor underfoot conditions def favoured cruppen as every ball was hard fought and stopped dromintee from exposing this cruppen team.

What was going on with the bounce of the ball last night? The pitch didn't look overly waterlogged but when the ball hit the ground it just stopped dead each time, abolsutely no bounce. Was it maybe the length of the grass? Again, didn't seem too long to me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 09, 2009, 12:33:52 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 10:44:02 PM
Quote from: rattle-the-net on May 08, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
Are you aware that the ref in question would have done anything he could to have had Dromintee beat?

Drogba was quoted as saying it was a f***ing disgrace
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on May 09, 2009, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 09, 2009, 12:56:16 AM
Silverbridge 1.12 -Ballyhegan 3.09
Tale of 2 halves. Davitt's up by 12 early in the second half, but fair dues to the Bridge, they. battled back, changed a few men and went more direct.  Best for Davitt's were Mel Courtney, Paddy Marley, Paddy McKeever and Shane McCormack. Best for Silverbridge was the corner forward and ginger midfielder. Important 2 points away from home! Bridge might struggle...
Bridge was always goin the struggle this year goats. as i said before on these pages there missin 10 of the startin 15 from last year and they just dont have the players to make up for them lads..davitts had 3 goals inside the 1st 10 mins tats wat beat them.ur big full forward back playin well..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on May 09, 2009, 08:10:42 PM
Just heard the Harps Drew with W.Tones and the tones missed a penalty in the last few mins.

not a great result for the Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on May 09, 2009, 09:16:10 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
Carrickcruppen 1-05 Dromintee 0-09

I must say Cruppen played some pretty horrible stuff. I was very disappointed they were anywhere near us and its an indication of how poor we were tonight. We were missing some players through injury but we certainly had more than enough on the field to be far too much for Cruppen. If Cruppen continue like that I think they will struggle.

However bad we were, a win is a win and its 2 more points in the bag.
dromintee are shite they beat cruppen by 2 and look what cross done to them...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on May 09, 2009, 09:20:54 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 09, 2009, 12:58:09 AM
Quote from: rattle-the-net on May 08, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
Carrickcruppen 1-05 Dromintee 0-09

I must say Cruppen played some pretty horrible stuff. I was very disappointed they were anywhere near us and its an indication of how poor we were tonight. We were missing some players through injury but we certainly had more than enough on the field to be far too much for Cruppen. If Cruppen continue like that I think they will struggle.

However bad we were, a win is a win and its 2 more points in the bag.

Cruppin should have had that game dead and buired at half time!! they hit i think 8-10 wides in the first half, ref give dromintee some easy frees at cruital points in the second half!

And to be honest i wudnt say that is was because dromintee were bad, cruppin outplayed dromintee in most areas of the field, had about 70% posession in the first with it being 50/50 in the second half! they just just through it away, another game cruppin should have won!!!

I have spoken to seven people now, some of who would love nothing better than to get their boot into the Dromintee senior team, all of whom said Dromintee totally dominated proceedings and only for some absolutely shitting play by themselves they would have won it at a canter.
by any chance had these people dark glasses and white sticks???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on May 09, 2009, 09:35:20 PM
Quote from: mousey on May 09, 2009, 09:16:10 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
Carrickcruppen 1-05 Dromintee 0-09

I must say Cruppen played some pretty horrible stuff. I was very disappointed they were anywhere near us and its an indication of how poor we were tonight. We were missing some players through injury but we certainly had more than enough on the field to be far too much for Cruppen. If Cruppen continue like that I think they will struggle.

However bad we were, a win is a win and its 2 more points in the bag.
dromintee are shite they beat cruppen by 2 and look what cross done to them...

Yeah beat them too  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 10, 2009, 12:26:32 AM
Quote from: Legs11 on May 09, 2009, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 09, 2009, 12:56:16 AM
Silverbridge 1.12 -Ballyhegan 3.09
Tale of 2 halves. Davitt's up by 12 early in the second half, but fair dues to the Bridge, they. battled back, changed a few men and went more direct.  Best for Davitt's were Mel Courtney, Paddy Marley, Paddy McKeever and Shane McCormack. Best for Silverbridge was the corner forward and ginger midfielder. Important 2 points away from home! Bridge might struggle...
Bridge was always goin the struggle this year goats. as i said before on these pages there missin 10 of the startin 15 from last year and they just dont have the players to make up for them lads..davitts had 3 goals inside the 1st 10 mins tats wat beat them.ur big full forward back playin well..
That is Paddy's younger brother Mickey. He'd a great game indeed. He's been playing B football this last few years. It's a pity injuries robbed him of his potential, after starring for Armagh and Ireland at under age!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: celtic on May 10, 2009, 11:16:32 AM
if dromintee are shite where does that leave cruppen? think dromintee were missing 5 starters against cruppen with a few other fringe players either injured or absent from the match. In conditions like it was on friday night any thing could of have happened. the weather def favoured the weaker teams!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 10, 2009, 02:44:10 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on May 09, 2009, 08:10:42 PM
Just heard the Harps Drew with W.Tones and the tones missed a penalty in the last few mins.

not a great result for the Harps

harps 6 up with bout 15 mins left.we showed great fight to get a point out of game think where 4 down when missed penalty hit post and although on top at this stage thought would have got nothing.gerard kavanagh came on and got a goal.harps where on the attack and the ref blew it up was quite fortunate.def had this game down as gamewe would have lost still thinking now was it a point gained or 1 dropped!chris mccarron had agreat game in half back still a minor.  proves the depth of talent harps have when they are able leave co minors(decky mckenna) in the stand not even stripped out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 10, 2009, 03:21:47 PM
county minors aren't allowed to play charlie
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 10, 2009, 03:25:01 PM
dodgey penalty to begin with and the ref bolwing it up was a joke!! Although we only have ourselves to blame for letting you's back into it, we never scored in the last 15mins or more.... >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 10, 2009, 03:37:11 PM
any other results lads, especially DivII?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on May 10, 2009, 03:42:37 PM
All the results and League Tables are on www.orchardcounty.com
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 11, 2009, 08:46:19 AM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 10 MAY 2009

Monday 4 May
ACL – Div. II
Clann Eireann 0-8; Harps 1-6

Tuesday 5 May
ACL – Div. IV
Dorsey Emmett's beat Clady

Wednesday 6 May
Under-21 Football Championship – 2nd Round
Sarsfields 3-14; Harps 3-5
Carrickcruppen 1-12; Maghery 1-11 (aet)
Killeavy 5-14; Eire Og 0-6
Ballymacnab 2-4; Keady 3-8
Tir na nÓg v Middletown (Off)
St Patrick's 0-13; Silverbridge 0-8
St John's 1-7; Crossmaglen 2-10
ACL – Div. IV
Grange 2-8; O'Hanlon's 1-5

Thursday 7 May
ACL – Div. I
Clan na Gael 1-6; Culloville 2-10
ACL – Div. III
Shane O'Neill's 0-4; St Peter's 1-4

Friday 8 May
ACL – Div. I
Carrickcruppen 1-5; Dromintee 0-9
Sarsfields 1-9; Crossmaglen 1-14
St Patrick's 0-9; Killeavey 0-3
Pearse Og 2-21; Mullaghbawn 0-4
ACL – Div. II
Maghery 1-14; Clann Eireann 2-8
Silverbridge 1-12; Ballyhegan 3-9
Whitecross v Tir na nÓg (Off)
Ballymacnab v St Michael's (Off)
Granemore 0-14; Madden 0-6
ACL – Div. III
Keady v Tullysaran (Off)
Middletown v Clonmore (Off)
St Paul's 2-6; Annaghmore 0-9
Belleek v An Port Mor (Off)
Collegeland v Lissummon (Off)
ACL – Div. IV
Dorsey Emmett's v Phelim Brady's (Off)
Forkhill 0-12; Corrinshego 0-7
Killean v Clady (Off)
Mullaghbrack 2-4; O'Hanlon's 1-12
Crossmaglen II 1-6 Grange 0-6
Derrynoose 0-4; Eire Og 1-5

Saturday 9 May
ACL – Div. II
Harps drew with Wolfe Tone

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 11, 2009, 10:39:51 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 10, 2009, 02:44:10 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on May 09, 2009, 08:10:42 PM
Just heard the Harps Drew with W.Tones and the tones missed a penalty in the last few mins.

not a great result for the Harps

harps 6 up with bout 15 mins left.we showed great fight to get a point out of game think where 4 down when missed penalty hit post and although on top at this stage thought would have got nothing.gerard kavanagh came on and got a goal.harps where on the attack and the ref blew it up was quite fortunate.def had this game down as gamewe would have lost still thinking now was it a point gained or 1 dropped!chris mccarron had agreat game in half back still a minor.  proves the depth of talent harps have when they are able leave co minors(decky mckenna) in the stand not even stripped out

:o I didn't realise Wolfe Tones played in the mid Armagh minor league
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 11, 2009, 10:48:58 AM
Quote from: mousey on May 09, 2009, 09:20:54 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 09, 2009, 12:58:09 AM
Quote from: rattle-the-net on May 08, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 08, 2009, 09:25:38 PM
Carrickcruppen 1-05 Dromintee 0-09

I must say Cruppen played some pretty horrible stuff. I was very disappointed they were anywhere near us and its an indication of how poor we were tonight. We were missing some players through injury but we certainly had more than enough on the field to be far too much for Cruppen. If Cruppen continue like that I think they will struggle.

However bad we were, a win is a win and its 2 more points in the bag.

Cruppin should have had that game dead and buired at half time!! they hit i think 8-10 wides in the first half, ref give dromintee some easy frees at cruital points in the second half!

And to be honest i wudnt say that is was because dromintee were bad, cruppin outplayed dromintee in most areas of the field, had about 70% posession in the first with it being 50/50 in the second half! they just just through it away, another game cruppin should have won!!!

I have spoken to seven people now, some of who would love nothing better than to get their boot into the Dromintee senior team, all of whom said Dromintee totally dominated proceedings and only for some absolutely shitting play by themselves they would have won it at a canter.
by any chance had these people dark glasses and white sticks???

No, but I would value their opinion a lot higher than yours.

Also, saying we controlled the game and only won by two is a criticsm not praise, so I don't see why these lads would lie.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 11, 2009, 11:38:18 AM
Corn i believe you guys are home to the Clans on Friday night...hope the usual "good grub" is on offer again ;). You can get me a pint after the match too :P...Better still Winsam can buy us both a pint ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on May 11, 2009, 11:42:17 AM
Took in the Ogs match at the weekend. i cant decide whether the ogs were that good or mullabawn were that bad! the ogs played at a devastating pace for the whole game and looked far sharper than they did a few weeks ago in their opening game. To be honest they could have won by even more only they kicked a lot of wides as well.

They totally dominated every position on the field. Ronan Clarke, jj clarke and jp donnelly werent playing either.

I think mullabawn are going to struggle but they may pick up points against teams with county men when they are not able to play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 11, 2009, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 11, 2009, 11:38:18 AM
Corn i believe you guys are home to the Clans on Friday night...hope the usual "good grub" is on offer again ;). You can get me a pint after the match too :P...Better still Winsam can buy us both a pint ;D

May not be present but I would say the good grub will still be there.

We don;t have bucky on tap, but i'll get you a pint of something if i'm there and a coke and a pacxket of bikers for Win.  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 11, 2009, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 11, 2009, 11:38:18 AM
Corn i believe you guys are home to the Clans on Friday night...hope the usual "good grub" is on offer again ;). You can get me a pint after the match too :P...Better still Winsam can buy us both a pint ;D

Why is the game on Friday as opposed to Sunday anyway?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 11, 2009, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 11, 2009, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 11, 2009, 11:38:18 AM
Corn i believe you guys are home to the Clans on Friday night...hope the usual "good grub" is on offer again ;). You can get me a pint after the match too :P...Better still Winsam can buy us both a pint ;D

Why is the game on Friday as opposed to Sunday anyway?

We play Killeavy on Sunday, so 2 games this weekend for us. hope that explains the Friday night Pong :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 11, 2009, 02:13:21 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 11, 2009, 01:17:18 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 11, 2009, 11:38:18 AM
Corn i believe you guys are home to the Clans on Friday night...hope the usual "good grub" is on offer again ;). You can get me a pint after the match too :P...Better still Winsam can buy us both a pint ;D

May not be present but I would say the good grub will still be there.

We don;t have bucky on tap, but i'll get you a pint of something if i'm there and a coke and a pacxket of bikers for Win.  :P

No baw saan, if there's no Buckie sure you can always get me a pint of Diesel...you may get Win a diet coke i'm afraid :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 11, 2009, 04:16:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 11, 2009, 02:11:37 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 11, 2009, 01:47:33 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 11, 2009, 11:38:18 AM
Corn i believe you guys are home to the Clans on Friday night...hope the usual "good grub" is on offer again ;). You can get me a pint after the match too :P...Better still Winsam can buy us both a pint ;D

Why is the game on Friday as opposed to Sunday anyway?

We play Killeavy on Sunday, so 2 games this weekend for us. hope that explains the Friday night Pong :P

Ah right. Thanks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 11, 2009, 05:20:16 PM
ok you two ballbag fruits.  I'll buy the pints because i'lldecide can only drink 4 and he is blocked ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on May 11, 2009, 09:12:01 PM
TAC..ur field must be in bad shape? seen ur boys up trainin in silverbridge the nite..Any word wat they though of the pitch it looked in great condition..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 11, 2009, 10:20:21 PM
according to orchardcounty sundays games are all off.

there wont be any weekend with two game....all the remaining fixtures are to be played in september!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 12, 2009, 09:46:41 AM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on May 11, 2009, 10:20:21 PM
according to orchardcounty sundays games are all off.

there wont be any weekend with two game....all the remaining fixtures are to be played in september!

Is there around of fixtures on Friday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 12, 2009, 10:30:46 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 12, 2009, 09:46:41 AM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on May 11, 2009, 10:20:21 PM
according to orchardcounty sundays games are all off.

there wont be any weekend with two game....all the remaining fixtures are to be played in september!

Is there around of fixtures on Friday?

Yes Goats i think there is, i know we play on Friday night. If someone is a member of that Orchard County could they get the fixtures and post them on here please...(i'll have to sign up for that site sometime as it's good for fixtures and results)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 12, 2009, 11:32:38 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 17 MAY 2009

Tuesday 12 May
ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Killean v Clady

Wednesday 13 May
Under-21 Football Championship – Quarter-finals (7.00)
Tir na nÓg v Middletown (Damian McConville)
Crossmaglen v Keady (Barney Henry)
Killeavy v St Patrick's (Jim Slevin)
First named team has Home Advantage
Extra time, if required
ACL – Div. I (7.30)
Pearse Og v Sarsfields (P Boylan)

Friday 15 May
ACL – Div. I (7.30)
Killeavy v Carrickcruppen (Mickey Leonard)
Dromintee v Clan na Gael (Ger Devlin)
Culloville v Crossmaglen (Dessie McDonnell)
Mullaghbawn v St Patrick's (Jim Burns)
ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Harps v Maghery (Kevin McNeice)
Clann Eireann v Silverbridge (Eamon Nugent)
Ballyhegan v Whitecross (Jim Slevin)
Tir na nÓg v Ballymacnab (Paudie Hughes)
St Michael's v Granemore (Frank McDonald)
Wolfe Tone v Madden (Tony O'Hare)
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
Keady v Middletown (Off)
Clonmore v St Paul's (Noel Martin)
Annaghmore v Shane O'Neill's (Paul Rath)
St Peter's v Belleek (Gary Smith)
An Port Mor v Collegeland (Ronan Quigley)
Tullysaran v Lissummon (Tony Watters)
ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Dorsey Emmett's v Forkhill (Stephen Murray)
Corrinshego v Killean (Kevin Gallogly)
Clady v O'Hanlon's (Jimmy McKee)
Mullaghbrack v Crossmaglen II (Stephen McKinley)
Grange v Derrynoose (Damian McConville)
Phelim Brady's v Eire Og (Vincent O'Neill)

Sunday 17 May
Fixtures for this date in the four Divisions have been postponed until the following dates:-

ACL - Div. I (Friday 7 August)
ACL - Div. II (Sunday 30 August)
ACL - Div. III (Sunday 30 August)
ACL - Div. IV (Sunday 30 August)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 13, 2009, 11:36:56 AM
The County Board called off games on the Sunday as it was apparently eating into the 14 day rule off playing for your club before a county game. However, we were told last night that even though the Sunday games were off, if the two clubs wanted to play the game without their county men then they were free to do so as long as they both agreed... ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sammymaguire on May 13, 2009, 11:59:45 AM
where is a good club to get involved in ladies GAA around Armagh city?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 13, 2009, 12:49:04 PM
Armagh Harps have a ladies team, dont know much about them, but i think they are handy enough, maybe some of the harps lads cud help you out on that one
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 13, 2009, 02:28:14 PM
I know the ogs have one as well, i think this maybe there first year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sammymaguire on May 13, 2009, 04:34:22 PM
cheers lads, my little sis has a new job over there and is looking to hook up with a team so i'll tell her to try meeting up with either club and i'm sure she can make up her own mind
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: one for the road on May 13, 2009, 08:58:20 PM
Quote from: sammymaguire on May 13, 2009, 04:34:22 PM
cheers lads, my little sis has a new job over there and is looking to hook up with a team so i'll tell her to try meeting up with either club and i'm sure she can make up her own mind

sent her down to the harps and someone will look after her  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 13, 2009, 09:19:06 PM
Ogs used their get out jail card tonight. Three or four down entering the last ten but won by 1-13 to 2-9
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 13, 2009, 09:47:11 PM
Under 21 Cross beat Keady by 8 or 9. Both teams scored 1-4 in second half but Cross dominated the first with the wind.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 13, 2009, 09:48:46 PM
Any other under 21 results.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 13, 2009, 09:49:21 PM
Quote from: ogshead on May 13, 2009, 09:19:06 PM
Ogs used their get out jail card tonight. Three or four down entering the last ten but won by 1-13 to 2-9

It was definitely a close one.  The Ogs were down by 5 points at half time and it could have been a lot more if Sarsfields had taken their goal chances.

A great goal in the last few minutes by Gregory Loughran brought the game level and a converted free awarded at the end sealed the win.

An ugly win, but still a win  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: clanneire on May 13, 2009, 09:52:31 PM
tir na nog beat middletown by 3 pts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 13, 2009, 10:33:52 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 13, 2009, 09:49:21 PM
Quote from: ogshead on May 13, 2009, 09:19:06 PM
Ogs used their get out jail card tonight. Three or four down entering the last ten but won by 1-13 to 2-9

It was definitely a close one.  The Ogs were down by 5 points at half time and it could have been a lot more if Sarsfields had taken their goal chances.

A great goal in the last few minutes by Gregory Loughran brought the game level and a converted free awarded at the end sealed the win.

An ugly win, but still a win  :)

Was impressed with Sarsfields tonight. They are a good side and were unlucky not come away with a point. They didn't drop the heads tonight when Loughy got the goal and came back up to score an equaliser. Would like to see them do well this year.... they had a great side years ago and it would be good to have them back challenging again. We def need North Armagh clubs to be going well and getting players through for the sake of the county team. As you said there, an ugly win but a wins a win!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on May 13, 2009, 11:31:23 PM
Pats beat Killeavey by 3. Good performance spoiled by conceding two late goals. Good performance from the forwards in the first half scoring one nine. Tired towards the end particularly at midfield and when Eoin Mc Ardle went off. Still its good to go through.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on May 14, 2009, 09:42:23 AM
went to see the ogs and sarsfields match myself.

In the opening 10 minutes it looked like the Ogs were going to run away with the game i think going in to a 4, 1 lead. For the next 20 minutes Sarsfields completely took over and went 5 up at half time with the wind.They had another 2 good goal oportunities but some good last ditch defending from the Ogs prevented this.

The second half was a completely different story with the Ogs dominating. However they hit 5 wides in a row at the start of the second half and it looked like it wasnt going to be their night when sarsfields went up to score leaving 6 in it. To be fair to the ogs they never stopped pushing bringing the score to 3 points even though they were still kicking numerous wides.

Chris Rafferty then burst through on goal but blasted over the bar leaving 2 in it. A good move then culminated in gregory loughran scoring a wonderful goal putting the ogs ahead by one with 5 minutes to go.

Sarsfields the went down the pitch and got the equaliser. A draw would have been a fair enough result but the ogs kept their composure and ronan clarke earned a free 40 metres out and dult put it over himself to win the game.

This was an exciting game if not spectacular. the sarsfield can take great heart from their performance but they also must learn some valuable lessons. The ogs dug deep and got the win showing great character and keeping their unbeaten record in tact.

Im now looking forward to watching the Harps and Maghery on friday. Anyone any team news on this? will both teams have a relatively full panel out?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 14, 2009, 10:19:49 AM
Harps have about 5 out at the minute including Peadar Toal, Nippy Swift, Gareth Richards and possibly Joe Quigley who is rushing to be fit but doubtul. Time for the rest to step upto the plate... :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on May 14, 2009, 10:31:27 AM
Unfortunate that the harps will be missing some of their quality players. I still think that this match will be tight. a win for either team will be a great confident booster. i still think however that no matter who wins this game these 2 teams will go up. if the harps lose it will put a bit of added pressure on them though as they have already drew one.

Should be a good game though. looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 15, 2009, 09:41:50 AM
Dromintee tonight lads what is the weather like around the Dromintee area?? It is bad around lurgan it has rained for two days again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 15, 2009, 09:48:34 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 15, 2009, 09:41:50 AM
Dromintee tonight lads what is the weather like around the Dromintee area?? It is bad around lurgan it has rained for two days again.

Bad, bad, bad.

Our pitch holds up well though, so should be dead on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 15, 2009, 10:55:47 AM
long studs then corn good lad ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 15, 2009, 10:57:56 AM
Whats the story about Sunday, definitely no games on?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 15, 2009, 11:06:08 AM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 15, 2009, 10:57:56 AM
Whats the story about Sunday, definitely no games on?

No, 14-day rule. Rescheduled for August.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on May 15, 2009, 11:57:00 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 15, 2009, 11:06:08 AM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 15, 2009, 10:57:56 AM
Whats the story about Sunday, definitely no games on?

No, 14-day rule. Rescheduled for August.

The 14 day rule actually allows county players to play this sunday - up to and inluding 2 weeks before. rumoured to be an armagh challenge match this sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 15, 2009, 01:38:52 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 15, 2009, 09:48:34 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 15, 2009, 09:41:50 AM
Dromintee tonight lads what is the weather like around the Dromintee area?? It is bad around lurgan it has rained for two days again.

Bad, bad, bad.

Our pitch holds up well though, so should be dead on.
i hope so, it has p*ssed constantly in lurgan today! >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on May 15, 2009, 01:43:11 PM
Quote from: The GAA on May 15, 2009, 11:57:00 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 15, 2009, 11:06:08 AM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 15, 2009, 10:57:56 AM
Whats the story about Sunday, definitely no games on?

No, 14-day rule. Rescheduled for August.

The 14 day rule actually allows county players to play this sunday - up to and inluding 2 weeks before. rumoured to be an armagh challenge match this sunday
Where's the challenge match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 15, 2009, 03:02:12 PM
And who are they rumoured to be playing?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 15, 2009, 09:34:50 PM
Dromintee beat Clans well tonight, think there was 7 in it at the end.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 15, 2009, 09:47:42 PM
Cross beat Culloville
Any other results.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 15, 2009, 10:00:28 PM
I think Cruppen beat Killeavey well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 15, 2009, 10:13:03 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 15, 2009, 10:00:28 PM
I think Cruppen beat Killeavey well

cruppen beat killeavy 2 -14 to 2-7. cruppen were 11 points up, killeavy hit 2 goals in second half and got back to 4 down before cruppen kicked on again to finish the game.

heard mullabawn beat st pats..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 15, 2009, 10:31:18 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 15, 2009, 10:13:03 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 15, 2009, 10:00:28 PM
I think Cruppen beat Killeavey well

cruppen beat killeavy 2 -14 to 2-7. cruppen were 11 points up, killeavy hit 2 goals in second half and got back to 4 down before cruppen kicked on again to finish the game.

heard mullabawn beat st pats..

Mullaghbawn 7- 5 cullyhanna I think
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 15, 2009, 10:37:26 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 15, 2009, 09:34:50 PM
Dromintee beat Clans well tonight, think there was 7 in it at the end.

1-15 to 1-9 I think it was. To be honest Clans were anonymous in the first half, dromintee bossed the game and went into half time with a healthy lead. Second half Clans had a bit of fight, hit the post and missed a penalty which if they had've went in would have changed the game, but we were just missing that little bit of luck. Dromintee's goal was a bit fortunate, attempt at a point dropped short and went through a few sets of hands before landing in the net  :'(

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 15, 2009, 10:48:40 PM
Yeah Mullaghbawn beat St Pats by 2 points...

gr8 to get first win under our belts especially after last weeks shannigans against the ogs...again 2nite we were very understrength and i hop the injury front soon starts to clear up.....Pats looked to have a strong line -up 2nite......Tony Donnelly I felt played well for them with Gareth Smyth one of our best players on the nite....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 15, 2009, 10:56:04 PM
Clann Eireann beat the bridge. - not sure of the score though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 15, 2009, 11:02:12 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on May 15, 2009, 10:37:26 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 15, 2009, 09:34:50 PM
Dromintee beat Clans well tonight, think there was 7 in it at the end.

missed a penalty


Wide or saved?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on May 15, 2009, 11:49:00 PM
Quote from: crossfire on May 15, 2009, 09:47:42 PM
Cross beat Culloville
Any other results.?

Was there much in it? Who played well?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 16, 2009, 12:35:42 AM
Quote from: corn02 on May 15, 2009, 11:02:12 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on May 15, 2009, 10:37:26 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 15, 2009, 09:34:50 PM
Dromintee beat Clans well tonight, think there was 7 in it at the end.

missed a penalty


Wide or saved?
point, though in my book anywhere other than the onion bag is a miss!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 16, 2009, 01:41:43 AM
Ballyhegan were destroyed by Whitecross. Lost count of the score but think it might have been 0.08 - 5.16 ... Could have been more! Think we got one score from play. Paddy McKeever hit maybe 5/6 frees. But missed a penalty.
Although this was the worst Davitt's display i have ever seen, some of the goals were very fortunate, arising from errors notably a 40 yard free which bounced freely to the back of the net. Whitecross were easily the best team we've come up against in a long time. They always had an overlapping option when playing a running game and mixed their play extremely well, whilst isolating our full back with a quick corner forward with a direct ball. Very pacey slick team. Well drilled with plenty of talent.
 
I believe Maghery were beating Harps at half time. Never heard final score.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 16, 2009, 09:09:34 AM
Maghery 1-14 Harps 0-8  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donners on May 16, 2009, 10:45:04 AM
Tullysaran beat Lissummon by 7 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 16, 2009, 03:41:24 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on May 15, 2009, 10:48:40 PM
Yeah Mullaghbawn beat St Pats by 2 points...

gr8 to get first win under our belts especially after last weeks shannigans against the ogs...again 2nite we were very understrength and i hop the injury front soon starts to clear up.....Pats looked to have a strong line -up 2nite......Tony Donnelly I felt played well for them with Gareth Smyth one of our best players on the nite....

Horrendous result for us. Completely unacceptable. No offense to Mullaghban but if we're losing that sort of a match we really need to look at ourselves.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 16, 2009, 05:30:05 PM
TAC I think your prob is on the line.....Cant see your man travellin up From Tyrone for much longer, he could be gettin his P45!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: aroundincircles on May 16, 2009, 05:36:11 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on May 16, 2009, 05:30:05 PM
TAC I think your prob is on the line.....Cant see your man travellin up From Tyrone for much longer, he could be gettin his P45!

big audi not long in getting another job ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 17, 2009, 04:37:32 PM
ARMAGH ACL LEAGUE TABLES – SATURDAY 16 MAY 2009

ACL – Div. I
   P   W   D   L   Pts
Crossmaglen   4   4   0   0   8
Pearse Og   4   3   1   0   7
Culloville   5   3   1   1   7
Dromintee   4   3   0   0   6
Killeavey   4   2   0   2   4
Carrickcruppen   5   1   1   3   3
Mullaghbawn   5   1   1   3   3
Sarsfields   5   1   1   3   3
St Patrick's   4   1   0   3   2
Clan na Gael   4   0   1   3   1

ACL – Div. II
   P   W   D   L   Pts
Maghery   5   5   0   0   10
Whitecross   4   4   0   0   8
Harps   5   3   1   1   7
Granemore   4   3   0   1   6
Ballymacnab   4   2   1   1   5
Clann Eireann   5   2   1   2   5
Wolfe Tone   3   0   3   0   3
Silverbridge   5   1   1   3   3
Madden   4   1   0   3   2
Ballyhegan   5   1   0   4   2
Tir na nÓg   4   0   1   3   1
St Michael's   4   0   0   4   0

ACL – Div. III
   P   W   D   L   Pts
St Paul's   5   4   0   1   8
St Peter's   5   4   0   1   8
Keady   3   3   0   0   6
Clonmore   5   3   0   2   6
Belleek   4   2   0   2   4
Middletown   4   2   0   2   4
Tullysaran   4   2   0   2   4
Shane O'Neill's   5   2   0   3   4
An Port Mor   3   1   0   2   2
Lissummon   4   1   0   3   2
Annaghmore   5   1   0   4   2
Collegeland   3   0   0   3   0

ACL – Div. IV
   P   W   D   L   Pts
Forkhill   5   5   0   0   10
Crossmaglen II   4   4   0   0   8
Eire Og   4   4   0   0   8
Corrinshego   5   4   0   1   8
Dorsey Emmett's   4   2   0   2   4
Clady   5   2   0   3   4
Derrynoose   4   1   1   2   3
Grange   3   1   0   2   2
O'Hanlon's   4   1   0   3   2
Mullaghbrack   5   1   0   4   2
Phelim Brady's   4   0   1   3   1
Killean   5   0   0   5   0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 17, 2009, 09:14:31 PM
Pearse Ogs beat Granemore tonight in the B championship by 5 points after extra time

Pearse Ogs 1-12
Granemore 0-10

One of the Granemore Players hit the referee after the game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on May 18, 2009, 09:25:59 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 17, 2009, 09:14:31 PM
Pearse Ogs beat Granemore tonight in the B championship by 5 points after extra time

Pearse Ogs 1-12
Granemore 0-10

One of the Granemore Players hit the referee after the game

Short season for him!!! :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on May 18, 2009, 09:27:34 AM
cullyhanna beat the bridge last nite in the b championship,
big jarlath was playing for bridge after making drive from the fermanagh game he came on after 15 minutes, think he is about 46 now so fair play to him, not many still going at his age ( although martin mcquliian did come on as a sub for stpats and i tink he is a couple of years older...

think cullyhanna have beat the bridge in the championship at u12, u14 minor, u21 and now b over the past few weeks, they must be sick at the sight of them!...

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 18, 2009, 09:28:38 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on May 18, 2009, 09:25:59 AM

Short season for him!!! :D :D

It's one way to end your football career
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 18, 2009, 10:00:34 AM
Referee never turned up for the B Championship game in Ballyhegan v Harps on Saturday night.

Bit of a joke!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 18, 2009, 10:09:23 AM
Harps rang Gerard Devlin who said he informed the county board he couldn't referee the B game.... he said if they were really stuck he would come down and referee it!! Why did he say he couldn't do it then FFS?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 18, 2009, 10:50:03 AM
Quote from: Candyman on May 18, 2009, 10:09:23 AM
Harps rang Gerard Devlin who said he informed the county board he couldn't referee the B game.... he said if they were really stuck he would come down and referee it!! Why did he say he couldn't do it then FFS?

Must have fancied a night off after reading watching the weather forecast. Horrible night! - Some turn out of Harps men though!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 18, 2009, 11:26:13 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 17, 2009, 09:14:31 PM
Pearse Ogs beat Granemore tonight in the B championship by 5 points after extra time

Pearse Ogs 1-12
Granemore 0-10

One of the Granemore Players hit the referee after the game

Who hit the ref?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 18, 2009, 11:30:29 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 18, 2009, 10:50:03 AM
Quote from: Candyman on May 18, 2009, 10:09:23 AM
Harps rang Gerard Devlin who said he informed the county board he couldn't referee the B game.... he said if they were really stuck he would come down and referee it!! Why did he say he couldn't do it then FFS?

Must have fancied a night off after reading watching the weather forecast. Horrible night! - Some turn out of Harps men though!

And the Candyman wasn't even there... ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 18, 2009, 12:25:23 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on May 18, 2009, 11:26:13 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 17, 2009, 09:14:31 PM
Pearse Ogs beat Granemore tonight in the B championship by 5 points after extra time

Pearse Ogs 1-12
Granemore 0-10

One of the Granemore Players hit the referee after the game

Who hit the ref?

& who was the ref?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 18, 2009, 12:53:04 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 18, 2009, 10:00:34 AM
Referee never turned up for the B Championship game in Ballyhegan v Harps on Saturday night.

Bit of a joke!

Same thing happend the Tullysaran v Collegeland b championship match.  both teams played out a challenge game instead.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 18, 2009, 12:55:34 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on May 18, 2009, 11:26:13 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 17, 2009, 09:14:31 PM
Pearse Ogs beat Granemore tonight in the B championship by 5 points after extra time

Pearse Ogs 1-12
Granemore 0-10

One of the Granemore Players hit the referee after the game

Who hit the ref?

Dunno who he was.  He was a Half forward for them, blonde fella, think his brother went to hit the ref as well.  
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 18, 2009, 01:10:04 PM
I hear he clocked him then tried to get on top of him to give him a proper doing?!?!?!?  :o :o :o

he can kiss his playing days goodbye anyway!! MORON
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Feckitt on May 18, 2009, 01:11:03 PM
Going by there results this year there must be some Whitecross men the county should be looking at!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 18, 2009, 01:11:36 PM
Quote from: Candyman on May 18, 2009, 01:10:04 PM
I hear he clocked him then tried to get on top of him to give him a proper doing?!?!?!?  :o :o :o

he can kiss his playing days goodbye anyway!! MORON

If true, big if, that will be a lifetime (two year) ban without question.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 18, 2009, 01:26:53 PM
Quote from: Feckitt on May 18, 2009, 01:11:03 PM
Going by there results this year there must be some Whitecross men the county should be looking at!

Definately! - Unfortuantely I don't know their lads, but their wing back got 5 from play I reckon. Think he was a county U21 McVerry perhaps?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on May 18, 2009, 01:31:58 PM
Think Whitecross only represntive in U21 was Mark Shields if am not mistaken?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 18, 2009, 01:36:43 PM
Quote from: Joxer on May 18, 2009, 01:31:58 PM
Think Whitecross only represntive in U21 was Mark Shields if am not mistaken?

Yep - played corner back - seemed like a good footballer, was actually a hell of a good back line that u21 team had. The half backs were from Harps (2) and 1 from Tullysarran I think (Comiskey?) who looked like a real good prospect.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 18, 2009, 01:40:32 PM
Quote from: Candyman on May 18, 2009, 01:10:04 PM
I hear he clocked him then tried to get on top of him to give him a proper doing?!?!?!?  :o :o :o

he can kiss his playing days goodbye anyway!! MORON

Unfortunately I had left before the incident happened, so my information is just second hand, but I'd heard he tried to hit him when he was on the ground.........
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: judas1 on May 18, 2009, 02:03:10 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on May 18, 2009, 11:26:13 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 17, 2009, 09:14:31 PM
Pearse Ogs beat Granemore tonight in the B championship by 5 points after extra time

Pearse Ogs 1-12
Granemore 0-10

One of the Granemore Players hit the referee after the game

Who hit the ref?
paul o connor, he is a silly ****
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 18, 2009, 02:42:25 PM
Quote from: Joxer on May 18, 2009, 01:31:58 PM
Think Whitecross only represntive in U21 was Mark Shields if am not mistaken?

That's the one... good footballer!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 18, 2009, 04:45:59 PM
Jesus C as much as Ref's do you napper in you would never consider hitting them, if one of my team mates hit a ref i'd whack them for doing it...considering most ref's are older guys too (exceptions to that fool from Silverbridge)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 18, 2009, 08:22:33 PM
Quote from: Joxer on May 18, 2009, 01:31:58 PM
Think Whitecross only represntive in U21 was Mark Shields if am not mistaken?

Anthony McCann was on U21 panel aswell. He plays Midfield. Some start to the season for Whitecross considering they struggled a bit last year. Mark Shields would be a good addition to any team. Both are still U21 next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on May 19, 2009, 12:13:34 AM
Quote from: judas1 on May 18, 2009, 02:03:10 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on May 18, 2009, 11:26:13 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 17, 2009, 09:14:31 PM
Pearse Ogs beat Granemore tonight in the B championship by 5 points after extra time

Pearse Ogs 1-12
Granemore 0-10

One of the Granemore Players hit the referee after the game

Who hit the ref?
paul o connor, he is a silly ****


I believe the Ref was Jim Slevin (Jim is about 50 yrs old). Bloody disgrace. Granemore will be hit with a huge fine/ban as well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on May 19, 2009, 07:57:55 AM
Watch the first half of the B match v granemore and there was a few lads on that team who didnt look right in the head

not surprised at what happened
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 19, 2009, 08:30:14 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on May 19, 2009, 07:57:55 AM
Watch the first half of the B match v granemore and there was a few lads on that team who didnt look right in the head

not surprised at what happened

Pot and Kettle springs to mind there Umgola.....  ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on May 19, 2009, 10:04:53 AM
Quote from: fcuksake on May 19, 2009, 12:13:34 AM
Quote from: judas1 on May 18, 2009, 02:03:10 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on May 18, 2009, 11:26:13 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 17, 2009, 09:14:31 PM
Pearse Ogs beat Granemore tonight in the B championship by 5 points after extra time

Pearse Ogs 1-12
Granemore 0-10

One of the Granemore Players hit the referee after the game

Who hit the ref?
paul o connor, he is a silly ****


I believe the Ref was Jim Slevin (Jim is about 50 yrs old). Bloody disgrace. Granemore will be hit with a huge fine/ban as well

Think it'd be a bit unfair to punish Granemore too much, not their fault the player in question attacked the Ref.  He should get a lifetime ban though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 19, 2009, 10:26:51 AM
Whilst i agree that it wasn't the fault of the club gander it is always the club that are punished. Sure the player will get a hefty ban but the club will also be punished. In scenarios like this the player should be banned for life and banned from the club membership. Instead of throwing the club out of competitions and heavily fining them and punishing the other members, the club should be placed on a probation period. If after say 6 months the club have kept a clean bill of health regarding discipline then things should be forgot about. The buck then only stops with the thug that hit the ref and this allows the other  players and club members to move on from it and not have to share the stigma. after all this guy should not be passed over to the law. The county board should also implement some sort of discipline course for the youth of the club so as they young members understand that incidents like this are not part and parcel of our game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on May 19, 2009, 10:36:55 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 24 MAY 2009

Thursday 21 May
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
Tullysaran v An Port Mor (Oliver Hearty)

Friday 22 May
ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Ballymacnab v St Michael's (Stephen McKinley)
Harps v Whitecross (Frank McDonald)
Whitecross v Tir na nÓg (Kevin Gallogly)
Wolfe Tone v Madden (Tony O'Hare)
NB: The Whitecross v Tir na nÓg fixture will take place if the Harps v Whitecross game is switched to Sunday 24 May – if not then it will be postponed until a later date
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
Belleek v An Port Mor (Seamus O'Neill)
Collegeland v Lissummon (Mickey Leonard)
ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Grange v Derrynoose (Damian McConville)

Sunday 24 May
ACL – Div. I (2.00)
Pearse Og v Carrickcruppen (Damian McConville)
Mullaghbawn v Clan na Gael (Jimmy McKee)
Dromintee v Culloville (Kevin Gallogly)
Sarsfields v St Patrick's (Stephen McKinley)
Killeavy v Crossmaglen (Stephen Murray) (7.30)
ACL – Div. II (2.00)
Maghery v Silverbridge (Gary Smith)
Clann Eireann v Ballymacnab (Noel Martin)
Ballyhegan v Granemore (Ronan Quigley)
Tir na nÓg v Madden (Tony Watters)
Wolfe Tone v St Michael's (Paul Rath)
ACL – Div. III (2.00)
Middletown v St Paul's (Patrick Duffy)
Keady v Shane O'Neill's (Vincent O'Neill)
Clonmore v Belleek (Eugene D Nugent)
Annaghmore v Collegeland (Eamon Nugent)
St Peter's v Lissummon (Seamus O'Neill)
ACL – Div. IV (2.00)
Forkhill v Phelim Brady's (Malachy McNicholl)
Killean v Dorsey Emmett's (Paudie Hughes)
O'Hanlon's v Corrinshego (Rory Robinson)
Crossmaglen II v Clady (Barney Henry)
Derrynoose v Mullaghbrack (Jim Lynch)
Eire Og v Grange (Jim Slevin)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on May 20, 2009, 09:14:43 AM
I think these are the amended fixtures for this week.

Thursday 21 May
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
Tullysaran v An Port Mor (Oliver Hearty)

Friday 22 May
ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Ballymacnab v St Michael's (Stephen McKinley)
Harps v Whitecross (Frank McDonald)
Wolfe Tone v Madden (Tony O'Hare)
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
Collegeland v Lissummon (Mickey Leonard)
ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Grange v Derrynoose (Damian McConville)

Sunday 24 May
ACL – Div. I (2.00)
Pearse Og v Carrickcruppen (Damian McConville)
Mullaghbawn v Clan na Gael (Jimmy McKee)
Dromintee v Culloville (Kevin Gallogly)
Sarsfields v St Patrick's (Stephen McKinley)
Killeavy v Crossmaglen (Stephen Murray) (7.30)
ACL – Div. II (2.00)
Maghery v Silverbridge (Gary Smith)
Clann Eireann v Ballymacnab (Noel Martin)
Ballyhegan v Granemore (Ronan Quigley)
Tir na nÓg v Madden (Tony Watters)
Wolfe Tone v St Michael's (Paul Rath)
ACL – Div. III (2.00)
Middletown v St Paul's (Patrick Duffy)
Keady v Shane O'Neill's (Vincent O'Neill)
Clonmore v Belleek (Eugene D Nugent)
Annaghmore v Collegeland (Eamon Nugent)
St Peter's v Lissummon (Seamus O'Neill)
ACL – Div. IV (2.00)
Forkhill v Killean (Malachy McNicholl)
Dorsey Emmett's v O'Hanlon's (Paudie Hughes)
Corrinshego v Crossmaglen II (Rory Robinson)
Clady v Derrynoose (Barney Henry)
Mullaghbrack v Eire Og (Jim Lynch)
Phelim Brady's v Grange (Jim Slevin)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 20, 2009, 01:36:31 PM
I think the Ballyhegan v Granemore game has been moved till 6pm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 20, 2009, 02:55:58 PM
Bit of trouble in the Cross and Cullaville game at the weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on May 20, 2009, 03:43:35 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 20, 2009, 01:36:31 PM
I think the Ballyhegan v Granemore game has been moved till 6pm.

whats for the reason for time being moved ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 20, 2009, 05:05:37 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 20, 2009, 02:55:58 PM
Bit of trouble in the Cross and Cullaville game at the weekend?

Diesel rights ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 20, 2009, 06:04:40 PM
Heard Tony Mac got a broken nose - think he was judased.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 20, 2009, 07:44:55 PM
Tight one if that is the case. It is funy the way this has been kept under the carpet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 20, 2009, 08:57:25 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 20, 2009, 07:44:55 PM
Tight one if that is the case. It is funy the way this has been kept under the carpet.

Nothing major happened. A couple of culloville lads got sent off for 2 yellows.
Tony mac got injured during the game but did not appear too bad.

It is not the first time this season that Corn has posted about "incidents" in Crossmaglen games without knowing the facts. ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 20, 2009, 10:38:15 PM
Quote from: crossfire on May 20, 2009, 08:57:25 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 20, 2009, 07:44:55 PM
Tight one if that is the case. It is funy the way this has been kept under the carpet.

Nothing major happened. A couple of culloville lads got sent off for 2 yellows.
Tony mac got injured during the game but did not appear too bad.

It is not the first time this season that Corn has posted about "incidents" in Crossmaglen games without knowing the facts. ??? ???

Uh huh. I take it your referring to the Cruppen match where I got a text saying a player had done another player, I posted asking did anyone hear it. What's the problem there?

Again, this match I heard the same as Benny about Tony getting "judased" as he put it, am I not allowed to ask whether it is true or not?

The very fact that I do not know the facts was why I posted "bit of trouble at the Cross Cullaville match?" notcie the question mark, I was seeking validation. For the Cruppen match i said it may not be true, it was established through the board that it was in fact a hard but fair tackle, which was grand by me.

Is paranoia gripping ya fellah? Wind your neck in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 21, 2009, 12:58:05 AM
What does "notcie the question mark" mean.??  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 21, 2009, 09:35:07 AM
Quote from: crossfire on May 21, 2009, 12:58:05 AM
What does "notcie the question mark" mean.??  ;D

I'll take you pointing out a spelling error as you admitting you jumped the gun in your original post.

Apology accepted.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 21, 2009, 09:41:23 AM
Quote from: torres on May 20, 2009, 03:43:35 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 20, 2009, 01:36:31 PM
I think the Ballyhegan v Granemore game has been moved till 6pm.

whats for the reason for time being moved ?

Not entirely sure, but I know we've a right few away on a stag weekend...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on May 21, 2009, 10:02:01 AM
Anyone know as to what is happening to the Official Armagh County Website?
The most up-to-date fixtures are for w/e 9th May and I thought Eddie Hughes was vice-chairman of the county board and not Oliver Hearty as shown on this site.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 21, 2009, 12:47:48 PM
Harps beat Ballyhegan in the Mid B Championship last night in very dangerous underfoot conditions, suprised it went ahead.  Game wasnt helped either by the overly fussy reffing of Gerard Devlin.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donners on May 22, 2009, 12:38:23 PM
The Tullysaran Blackwater match ended up a draw
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 22, 2009, 10:43:35 PM
madden beat tones by 1pt!

word on orchardcounty is that harps were beat by whitecross by 10pts!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 22, 2009, 11:08:37 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on May 22, 2009, 10:43:35 PM
madden beat tones by 1pt!

word on orchardcounty is that harps were beat by whitecross by 10pts!

i heard whitecross 3-14 harps 10 points. Whitecross look to be on their way to a return to division 1. they struggled a bit last year but has many injuries throughout the year. with clean bill of health this year they are racking up some scores.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sickboy on May 22, 2009, 11:48:24 PM
the nab beat newtown by 7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 23, 2009, 11:49:55 AM
CORRRREEEEEECCCCCCCTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on May 23, 2009, 11:53:24 AM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 22, 2009, 11:08:37 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on May 22, 2009, 10:43:35 PM
madden beat tones by 1pt!

word on orchardcounty is that harps were beat by whitecross by 10pts!

i heard whitecross 3-14 harps 10 points. Whitecross look to be on their way to a return to division 1. they struggled a bit last year but has many injuries throughout the year. with clean bill of health this year they are racking up some scores.

poor result for the harps. it'll be an uphill struggle to chase promotion for them now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 23, 2009, 01:26:45 PM
Grow up were only 4 games in!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 23, 2009, 09:23:57 PM
Quote from: sickboy on May 22, 2009, 11:48:24 PM
the nab beat newtown by 7

newtown are struggling badly. and yes id agree with The GAA, it looks as though Maghery will not drop too many points and Whitecross have had a fantastic start. Although by all accounts Harps have several injuries, so the length of some of these will be a factor. If theres many long term and the way the top teams are picking up points it may well be an uphill struggle for promotion.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 23, 2009, 10:01:49 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on May 23, 2009, 09:23:57 PM
Quote from: sickboy on May 22, 2009, 11:48:24 PM
the nab beat newtown by 7

newtown are struggling badly. and yes id agree with The GAA, it looks as though Maghery will not drop too many points and Whitecross have had a fantastic start. Although by all accounts Harps have several injuries, so the length of some of these will be a factor. If theres many long term and the way the top teams are picking up points it may well be an uphill struggle for promotion.

Things were always likely to get tough for Newtown - fair play to them for how they've done over the past few years but it was likely to be impossible to maintain. They just simply don't produce enough underage players to compete at senior level. They've probably been punching above their weight this past few years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 24, 2009, 01:09:52 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 23, 2009, 01:26:45 PM
Grow up were only 4 games in!

And the Harps have dropped three or four points haven't they? Even more reason to back up GAA's point. It will be worrying for the Harps as has been proven over the last few years, it is a highly competitive division.

Hope the Harps come through, first division looks wrong without them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 24, 2009, 03:58:48 PM
Dromintee 2-06 Cullaville 0-10
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 24, 2009, 04:01:41 PM
Mullaghbawn 1-10
Clans 0-09

Two more points in the bag.... ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 24, 2009, 04:05:02 PM
Dromintee won by two, quite an entertaining game I must say.

We were down big numbers but the side played well and should have won by more. Micheal O Rourke was excellent and kicked 1-05 out of 2-06.

Cullaville could have had a penalty in the sixth minute of injury time, was down the other side of the field but looked like a penalty to me to be honest, we'll not complain though.

I think for once we'll not be worrying about relegation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 24, 2009, 04:33:49 PM
Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 24, 2009, 04:38:35 PM
Maghery beat the bridge by 7 or 8, we played the second half with 14. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 24, 2009, 04:55:03 PM
St Pat's 1-10 Sarsfields 0-9

Good win away from home particularly given the start we made. Sarsfields were 0-4 to no score up after 10 / 15 minutes and we looked in serious trouble. They actually could have been even further ahead were it not for an outstanding save from Conor O'Neill. We only started to play a bit of football after 15 minutes. Ciaran O'Hare had a couple of goal cahnces and scored 1-1 to get us back into the game. Liam O'Hare also scored a nice point after a good move. Went in level at half time. We started to pull away in the second half as we began to dominate midfield. Kieran Hoey came on and got a point, Eugene Casey also got a couple of scores. We looked fairly comfortable heading into the last few minutes but Sarsfield had a couple of great chances, hitting the bar once and the inside of the post a couple of minutes later which could have gotten Sarsfields right back into the match. Its fair to say we deserved the points though. Best for Cullyhanna were Ciaran O'Hare, Eoin McArdle and Barry McConville I thought. Richie Stevenson looked dangerous for Sarsfields though we got to grips with him in the second half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 24, 2009, 05:13:48 PM
cruppen lost by 5 to pearse ogs. think it was 2-10 to 11 points. Only 16 outfield players available, struggling desperately with injuries.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on May 24, 2009, 06:40:46 PM
Annaghmore beat collegeland 2-7 to 0-5 today.  Annaghmore were 2-1 to no score up within 5 minutes, it was a fairly even game after that.  Not a great performance from the ref imo who let too much go to the point where he seemed to have lost control of the game before half time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on May 24, 2009, 08:30:37 PM
granemore bt ballyhegan 2-11 - 1-9  joson o,neill scored 2-1 , chrissy o,connor 0-6 , paddy mc keever scored 1-6 .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 24, 2009, 09:08:45 PM
Tipped on down to Killeavy this evening to take in the would be close league encounter between Killeavy and Cross. Should have stayed at home.

Killeavy 0-08 Crossmaglen 3-13

The scoreline was made in some way respectable by some late Killeavy attacks after Cross took their foot off the pedal and made a few changes (and when I say respectable I mean only slightly better than absolutely horrendous)

This game was over in the first 15 minutes. I think Cross were up by 12 at that stage. Absolutely horrible performance from Killeavy, they completely lay down from the beginning with many of them showing about as much fight as a semi-fit Michael Owen in Villa Park. They are gonna struggle this year no doubt. Have to say some of the direction from the sideline (the little that there was) was completely inept. Only saving grace for Killeavy this year I imagine is the amount of equally bad teams there seems to be in the league.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 24, 2009, 09:25:47 PM
Wetn down myself. Very one-sided.

Pity big Duffy is managing instead of playing, could have put him in and he would have done a lot better.

Bar Gary Rell Killeavy were very poor.

That said Cross were excellent, Franics Hanratty was MOTM, I think he hit 1-4 from play from the middle. The intensity of the Cross tackling was superb. There forwards are better tacklers than most other team's defenders.

Not a Cross fan but in full flight they are great to watch.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 24, 2009, 09:28:00 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 24, 2009, 09:25:47 PM
Wetn down myself. Very one-sided.

Pity big Duffy is managing instead of playing, could have put him in and he would have done a lot better.

Bar Gary Rell Killeavy were very poor.

That said Cross were excellent, Franics Hanratty was MOTM, I think he hit 1-4 from play from the middle. The intensity of the Cross tackling was superb. There forwards are better tacklers than most other team's defenders.

Not a Cross fan but in full flight they are great to watch.

You sure?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on May 24, 2009, 09:29:49 PM
What was Cross line out ? Francie playing ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 24, 2009, 09:30:33 PM
No, Donaldson, McEntee and McConnville were though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 24, 2009, 09:30:39 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 24, 2009, 09:28:00 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 24, 2009, 09:25:47 PM
Wetn down myself. Very one-sided.

Pity big Duffy is managing instead of playing, could have put him in and he would have done a lot better.

Bar Gary Rell Killeavy were very poor.

That said Cross were excellent, Franics Hanratty was MOTM, I think he hit 1-4 from play from the middle. The intensity of the Cross tackling was superb. There forwards are better tacklers than most other team's defenders.

Not a Cross fan but in full flight they are great to watch.

You sure?

Boom boom!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on May 24, 2009, 09:32:18 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 24, 2009, 09:30:33 PM
No, Donaldson, McEntee and McConnville were though.


Any Kernans ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 24, 2009, 09:32:42 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 24, 2009, 09:29:49 PM
What was Cross line out ? Francie playing ??

Can;t remember it all but something like:

Kieran McKenna
? Paul McKeown ?
Fish Donaldson ?

Francis Hanratty John McEntee

? Aaron Cunningham ?
McConville ?   Your wee boy Jimmy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 24, 2009, 09:33:05 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 24, 2009, 09:32:18 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 24, 2009, 09:30:33 PM
No, Donaldson, McEntee and McConnville were though.


Any Kernans ??

No county men for any team today.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 24, 2009, 09:34:58 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 24, 2009, 09:32:42 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 24, 2009, 09:29:49 PM
What was Cross line out ? Francie playing ??

Can;t remember it all but something like:

Kieran McKenna
? Paul McKeown ?
Fish Donaldson ?

Francis Hanratty John McEntee

? Aaron Cunningham ?
McConville ?   Your wee boy Jimmy

Kyle Brennan no.10 and Jamie Clarke no.12
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on May 24, 2009, 09:36:34 PM
Thanks lads - can anyone beat them this year in Armagh ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 24, 2009, 09:40:18 PM
They have an excellent squad, I mean its very clear that once their county players are out or they are missing players through injury there always seems to be some unknown figure able to come in and perform the same job.

I do think there are teams in the county whos players are as good as theirs. Its matching their intensity and being able to stretch the squad thats needed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on May 24, 2009, 09:45:25 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 24, 2009, 09:40:18 PM
They have an excellent squad, I mean its very clear that once their county players are out or they are missing players through injury there always seems to be some unknown figure able to come in and perform the same job.

I do think there are teams in the county whos players are as good as theirs. Its matching their intensity and being able to stretch the squad thats needed.


Who is best equipped / most likely to turn them over or catch them on a bad day ??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 24, 2009, 09:47:37 PM
Not sure yet, early days so far. Og's seem to have started the year well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 25, 2009, 12:03:35 PM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 24 MAY 2009

Thursday 21 May
ACL – Div. III
Tullysaran 1-9; An Port Mor 0-12

Friday 22 May
ACL – Div. II
Ballymacnab 2-12; St Michael's 1-8
Harps 0-12; Whitecross 3-11
Wolfe Tone 0-8; Madden 0-9
ACL – Div. III
Collegeland 2-7; Lissummon 2-10
ACL – Div. IV
Mullaghbrack 1-7; Eire Og 0-9
Derrynoose 2-7; Clady 2-7

Sunday 24 May
ACL – Div. I
Pearse Og 2-10; Carrickcruppen 0-11
Mullaghbawn 1-10; Clan na Gael 0-9
Dromintee 2-6; Culloville 0-10
Sarsfields 0-9; St Patrick's 1-10
Killeavy 0-8; Crossmaglen 3-13
ACL – Div. II
Maghery 1-14; Silverbridge 1-7
Clann Eireann 0-12; Ballymacnab 1-16
Ballyhegan 1-9; Granemore 2-11
Tir na nÓg 0-11; Madden 0-8
Wolfe Tone v St Michael's (Off)
ACL – Div. III
Middletown 1-9; St Paul's 1-11
Keady 2-16; Shane O'Neill's 0-14
Clonmore 1-7; Belleek 0-22
Annaghmore 2-7; Collegeland 0-5
St Peter's 0-7; Lissummon 0-4
ACL – Div. IV
Forkhill 5-14; Killean 2-4
Dorsey Emmett's 1-9; O'Hanlon's 0-7
Corrinshego 2-6; Crossmaglen II 1-10
Phelim Brady's 0-3; Grange 1-11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 25, 2009, 12:04:33 PM
ARMAGH ACL LEAGUE TABLES – SUNDAY 24 MAY 2009

ACL – Div. I
   P   W   D   L   Pts
Crossmaglen   5   5   0   0   10
Pearse Og   5   4   1   0   9
Dromintee   5   4   0   0   8
Culloville   6   3   1   2   7
Mullaghbawn   6   2   1   3   5
Killeavey   5   2   0   3   4
St Patrick's   5   2   0   3   4
Carrickcruppen   6   1   1   4   3
Sarsfields   6   1   1   4   3
Clan na Gael   5   0   1   4   1

ACL – Div. II
   P   W   D   L   Pts
Maghery   6   6   0   0   12
Whitecross   5   5   0   0   10
Ballymacnab   6   4   1   1   9
Granemore   5   4   0   1   8
Harps   6   3   1   2   7
Clann Eireann   6   2   1   3   5
Madden   6   2   0   4   4
Wolfe Tone   4   0   3   1   3
Tir na nÓg   5   1   1   3   3
Silverbridge   6   1   1   4   3
Ballyhegan   6   1   0   5   2
St Michael's   5   0   0   5   0

ACL – Div. III
   P   W   D   L   Pts
Keady   5   5   0   0   10
St Peter's   6   5   0   1   10
St Paul's   7   5   0   2   10
Clonmore   6   3   0   3   6
Belleek   5   3   0   2   6
Tullysaran   5   2   1   2   5
Middletown   5   2   0   3   4
Annaghmore   6   2   0   4   4
Lissummon   6   2   0   4   4
Shane O'Neill's   6   2   0   4   4
An Port Mor   4   1   1   2   3
Collegeland   5   0   0   5   0

ACL – Div. IV
   P   W   D   L   Pts
Forkhill   6   6   0   0   12
Crossmaglen II   5   5   0   0   10
Eire Og   5   4   0   1   8
Corrinshego   6   4   0   2   8
Dorsey Emmett's   5   3   0   2   6
Clady   6   2   1   3   5
Grange   4   2   0   2   4
Derrynoose   5   1   2   2   4
Mullaghbrack   6   2   0   4   4
O'Hanlon's   5   1   0   4   2
Phelim Brady's   5   0   1   4   1
Killean   6   0   0   6   0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 25, 2009, 01:15:51 PM
Anyone got the next round of fixtures?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 25, 2009, 04:34:32 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 24, 2009, 09:36:34 PM
Thanks lads - can anyone beat them this year in Armagh ??


NO.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 25, 2009, 05:56:46 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 25, 2009, 04:34:32 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 24, 2009, 09:36:34 PM
Thanks lads - can anyone beat them this year in Armagh ??


NO.

Ai sure whats the point in even having a senior championship this year? Just give them the cup and continue to do so every year until there is a general consensus that someone might have a chance. And sure at that point why bother having the whole championship again, just have one game with the proposed contender and see who wins, ya know like in boxing?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 25, 2009, 06:45:19 PM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E FRIDAY 29 MAY 2009

Tuesday 26 May
ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Wolfe Tone v St Michael's (Eamon Nugent)

Wednesday 27 May
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
Keady v Belleek (Jimmy McKee)

Friday 29 May
ACL – Div. I (7.30)
Carrickcruppen v St Patrick's (Seamus O'Neill)
Clan na Gael v Pearse Og (Jim Slevin)
Crossmaglen v Mullaghbawn (Eamon Nugent)
Culloville v Killeavy (Kevin McNeice)
Dromintee v Sarsfields (Tony O'Hare)
ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Silverbridge v Wolfe Tone (Paul Boylan)
Whitecross v Maghery (Ger Devlin)
Ballymacnab v Harps (Mickey Leonard)
Granemore v Clann Eireann (Barney Henry)
Madden v Ballyhegan (Dessie McDonnell)
St Michael's v Tir na nÓg (Jim Burns)
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
St Paul's v Tullysaran (Damian McConville)
Shane O'Neill's v Middletown (Off)
Collegeland v Clonmore (Stephen McKinley)
Lissummon v Annaghmore (Kevin Gallogly)
An Port Mor v St Peter's (Stephen Murray)
ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Killean v Phelim Brady's (Tony Watters)
O'Hanlon's v Forkhill (Ronan Quigley)
Crossmaglen II v Dorsey Emmett's (Patrick Duffy)
Derrynoose v Corrinshego (Paudie Hughes)
Eire Og v Clady (Noel Martin)
Grange v Mullaghbrack (Vincent O'Neill)

   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 25, 2009, 08:45:04 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 25, 2009, 05:56:46 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 25, 2009, 04:34:32 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 24, 2009, 09:36:34 PM
Thanks lads - can anyone beat them this year in Armagh ??


NO.

Ai sure whats the point in even having a senior championship this year? Just give them the cup and continue to do so every year until there is a general consensus that someone might have a chance. And sure at that point why bother having the whole championship again, just have one game with the proposed contender and see who wins, ya know like in boxing?


In previous years there has always been a couple of teams that could have at least gave them a match but I think club football has went badly back from what ive seen so far this season. So Wan Tan Fanta unfortunatley I dont believe anyone will get near to Cross this year!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 26, 2009, 03:34:34 PM
Massive game for the clans on Friday night...Hope we can get something from the game as results have not been good for us in the last two weeks (both ours and the teams just above us). Og's going well at the minute so should be a stroll in the park for the Clans
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on May 26, 2009, 04:38:52 PM
ogs might struggle now without the county lads. small squad atm with injuries and that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 26, 2009, 04:43:34 PM
Quote from: pearseog on May 26, 2009, 04:38:52 PM
ogs might struggle now without the county lads. small squad atm with injuries and that.

Well going by recent history we'll be expecting as strong as Og's team as possible...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on May 26, 2009, 04:50:57 PM
Heard from a reliable source that the ogs will be missing 10 first team players for friday nights match (4 county men and 6 injured) can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 26, 2009, 04:55:10 PM
Another Ref snouted at the weekend? Silverbridge game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 26, 2009, 04:57:27 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 26, 2009, 04:55:10 PM
Another Ref snouted at the weekend? Silverbridge game?

Heard that myself from a Maghery man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 26, 2009, 04:55:10 PM
Another Ref snouted at the weekend? Silverbridge game?
News to me, what was suppose to have happened?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ping Pong Santa on May 26, 2009, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 25, 2009, 08:45:04 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 25, 2009, 05:56:46 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 25, 2009, 04:34:32 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 24, 2009, 09:36:34 PM
Thanks lads - can anyone beat them this year in Armagh ??


NO.

Ai sure whats the point in even having a senior championship this year? Just give them the cup and continue to do so every year until there is a general consensus that someone might have a chance. And sure at that point why bother having the whole championship again, just have one game with the proposed contender and see who wins, ya know like in boxing?


In previous years there has always been a couple of teams that could have at least gave them a match but I think club football has went badly back from what ive seen so far this season. So Wan Tan Fanta unfortunatley I dont believe anyone will get near to Cross this year!

What Buckast-filled hole did you crawl out of anyway?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on May 26, 2009, 07:35:09 PM
Was it Smith from Portadown yeah?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 09:01:33 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 26, 2009, 04:55:10 PM
Another Ref snouted at the weekend? Silverbridge game?
News to me, what was suppose to have happened?
It was a push. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on May 26, 2009, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 09:01:33 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 26, 2009, 04:55:10 PM
Another Ref snouted at the weekend? Silverbridge game?
News to me, what was suppose to have happened?
It was a push. 


wouldnt even call it a push.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 09:36:32 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on May 26, 2009, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 09:01:33 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 26, 2009, 04:55:10 PM
Another Ref snouted at the weekend? Silverbridge game?
News to me, what was suppose to have happened?
It was a push. 


wouldnt even call it a push.
So I hear, (spoke to quite a few about the game sunday and yesterday and no one even thought it worth mentioning!) unfortunate thing though is hands were placed on the ref and you just cant do that  :-\
Just a shame we'll lose him through suspension now. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on May 26, 2009, 09:51:04 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 09:36:32 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on May 26, 2009, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 09:01:33 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 26, 2009, 04:55:10 PM
Another Ref snouted at the weekend? Silverbridge game?
News to me, what was suppose to have happened?
It was a push. 


wouldnt even call it a push.
So I hear, (spoke to quite a few about the game sunday and yesterday and no one even thought it worth mentioning!) unfortunate thing though is hands were placed on the ref and you just cant do that  :-\

How long do the think the player will get.I hear the ref`s reportin the player for strikin player and ref?tats 2 red cards in 2games not great with the small pick they have at the min..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on May 26, 2009, 09:51:04 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 09:36:32 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on May 26, 2009, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 09:01:33 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 26, 2009, 04:55:10 PM
Another Ref snouted at the weekend? Silverbridge game?
News to me, what was suppose to have happened?
It was a push. 


wouldnt even call it a push.
So I hear, (spoke to quite a few about the game sunday and yesterday and no one even thought it worth mentioning!) unfortunate thing though is hands were placed on the ref and you just cant do that  :-\

How long do the think the player will get.I hear the ref`s reportin the player for strikin player and ref?tats 2 red cards in 2games not great with the small pick they have at the min..
If he's reported for striking the ref (which is a joke!) that could be anything up to 2 years I suppose?
though I've heard it'll probably be 3 - 6months?   :-\

Nightmare. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 26, 2009, 10:07:46 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 26, 2009, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 25, 2009, 08:45:04 PM
Quote from: Ping Pong Santa on May 25, 2009, 05:56:46 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 25, 2009, 04:34:32 PM
Quote from: orangeman on May 24, 2009, 09:36:34 PM
Thanks lads - can anyone beat them this year in Armagh ??


NO.

Ai sure whats the point in even having a senior championship this year? Just give them the cup and continue to do so every year until there is a general consensus that someone might have a chance. And sure at that point why bother having the whole championship again, just have one game with the proposed contender and see who wins, ya know like in boxing?


In previous years there has always been a couple of teams that could have at least gave them a match but I think club football has went badly back from what ive seen so far this season. So Wan Tan Fanta unfortunatley I dont believe anyone will get near to Cross this year!

What Buckast-fulled hole did you crawl out of anyway?


Your ma's - 20 mins ago!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 27, 2009, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: davo on May 26, 2009, 04:50:57 PM
Heard from a reliable source that the ogs will be missing 10 first team players for friday nights match (4 county men and 6 injured) can anyone confirm this?

I would love to confirm this but some how i doubt it. It will be a massive game for us no matter how many men the Og's have out, 2pts for us will do :-X
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 27, 2009, 12:25:03 PM
UNITED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 27, 2009, 12:57:47 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 27, 2009, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: davo on May 26, 2009, 04:50:57 PM
Heard from a reliable source that the ogs will be missing 10 first team players for friday nights match (4 county men and 6 injured) can anyone confirm this?

I would love to confirm this but some how i doubt it. It will be a massive game for us no matter how many men the Og's have out, 2pts for us will do :-X
Massive game though clans shouldn't be fearing anyone at davitt, regardless of how many county men there are.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 27, 2009, 01:00:24 PM
CLEARLY YOU HAVENT SEEN THEM PLAY THIS YEAR THEN!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on May 27, 2009, 02:39:00 PM
this referee thing is now happening too often in armagh now, hands should not be lifted to a referee in any way..   
unfortunately we only have our county board to blame this would have been all stamped out a few years ago if they'd have stood their ground in the 'nab case, they should have had the book threw at them and i think we wouldn't have these cases now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 27, 2009, 03:49:40 PM
Whilst i agree that a ref should never be assaulted or touched in anyway The only way to fix this problem is to completely overhaul the refering sysytem and the clowns that are let in to do the job. The county board should be working with a dedicated bunch of men to ensure that the rules are properly implemented right across the board. These incident s are arising because players are frustrated with the incomplacency shown by referees. A ref by all means should use his common sense whilst refereeing, treating each scenarion with a cool head. A ref should not be infringing on the rules whilst he is doing this for example not sending someone off for striking simply because the other player didn't go down and needed to be attended to by a physio. We have all witnessed the example i have cited and the next minute the ref will send a player off for the exact same thing. A ref must also not go into a game with pre conditions or a hatred towards a club. At the end of each match the club secretary of both teams should be ask to fill out a report of the referee. These reports should be kept and reviewed pin pointing the particular performances of certain refs. There is too much innacuracy and coherance this only leads to arguments. When this is combined with poor self discipline then the potential is always there for these types of incidents. It is a fact now that players are taking to the field of play not knowing the rules of the game, or should i say the refs interpretation of the rule. Two fine examples would be picking the ball of the ground, certain refs will let you lift it when rolling towards you and others will blow you up for it. Another good example would be the hop ball, i have played in some games where the ball has been hopped about 10 times, all because the ref wouldn't make a decision. There are other rules like the square ball, i have seen some refs blow for squareballs when the ball has just left the midfielders boot. The GAA should be very forceful with county boards ensuring that they fully implement the rules and make the refs within their counties do the same.

Truth be told ref are in the main unaccountable to clubs or anyone for that matter. The attitude has developed that they are giving up spare time so we should let them do what they want or they will strike. This is bullshit, they should be accountable for every decision made ensuring that they can't cheat and highly influence big games. I am in no way justifying the actions of certain folks in the past but i can understand when you have certain clowns taking the pitch with preconditions of players, supporter etc how things could get out of order. A complete overaul of the system is required lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on May 27, 2009, 04:27:08 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on May 26, 2009, 09:51:04 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 09:36:32 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on May 26, 2009, 09:30:46 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 09:01:33 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 26, 2009, 06:54:34 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 26, 2009, 04:55:10 PM
Another Ref snouted at the weekend? Silverbridge game?
News to me, what was suppose to have happened?
It was a push. 


wouldnt even call it a push.
So I hear, (spoke to quite a few about the game sunday and yesterday and no one even thought it worth mentioning!) unfortunate thing though is hands were placed on the ref and you just cant do that  :-\

How long do the think the player will get.I hear the ref`s reportin the player for strikin player and ref?tats 2 red cards in 2games not great with the small pick they have at the min..
If he's reported for striking the ref (which is a joke!) that could be anything up to 2 years I suppose?
though I've heard it'll probably be 3 - 6months?   :-\

Nightmare. 

its a complete joke he sort of tapped the ref on the the stomach as he produced the ref and he went to walk off to put it in as striking is ridiculous.
He rang the referee sunday evening to try and sort out any misunderstanding and apologised for what might have been percieved as striking the ref said no problem apology accepted then informed him he was still putting him in for the two accounts of striking.
He told the ref to go and F*ck himself and rightly so. Ref had a serious ego problem and attitude throughout the game in my opinion.

one of our lads told a player to stop crying at the ref cos he wasnt going to change his mind, ref pulled him aside told him it wasnt his place to say what he was and wasnt going to do when you consider our man was trying to discipline his own player to not criticise the ref bit of a joke.
another point was man i was on said to me at the throw in "at least we have a decent ref today one last week was a joke" it all became clear as the game transpired why he was glad to see this man in charge.. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 27, 2009, 06:51:51 PM
Refereeing in the county definitely needs overhauled, i hate this notion as winsam pointed out that refs are immune to criticism because they sacrifice their time etc, we all know that depending on what club you play for will be a factor in a referee's performance and in some cases the result. Some refs have chips on their shoulders, others are biased towards teams from certain areas and some are just clean bad (unfit, stubborn or unaware of the rules). Most of them do the game fairly and for that should be commended, its just the minority of w*nkers who let their own egos and agendas get in the way of fair play. I like the idea of refs being monitored by the clubs, a good way of getting feedback from the clubs so that refs that appear to be underperforming can be identified. Also think it'd be a good idea to make it compulsary for refs to meet each team briefly before a match, so they can set out their stall and let the players know exactly what will and will not be tolerated. Different refs have different perceptions and attitudes to things like slabbering etc, some might be more laid back than others. That way both teams have no excuse for any "shock" decisions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 27, 2009, 07:19:08 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 25, 2009, 12:03:35 PM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 24 MAY 2009

Thursday 21 May
ACL – Div. III
Tullysaran 1-9; An Port Mor 0-12

Friday 22 May
ACL – Div. II
Ballymacnab 2-12; St Michael's 1-8
Harps 0-12; Whitecross 3-11
Wolfe Tone 0-8; Madden 0-9
ACL – Div. III
Collegeland 2-7; Lissummon 2-10
ACL – Div. IV
Mullaghbrack 1-7; Eire Og 0-9
Derrynoose 2-7; Clady 2-7

Sunday 24 May
ACL – Div. I
Pearse Og 2-10; Carrickcruppen 0-11
Mullaghbawn 1-10; Clan na Gael 0-9
Dromintee 2-6; Culloville 0-10
Sarsfields 0-9; St Patrick's 1-10
Killeavy 0-8; Crossmaglen 3-13
ACL – Div. II
Maghery 1-14; Silverbridge 1-7
Clann Eireann 0-12; Ballymacnab 1-16
Ballyhegan 1-9; Granemore 2-11
Tir na nÓg 0-11; Madden 0-8
Wolfe Tone v St Michael's (Off)
ACL – Div. III
Middletown 1-9; St Paul's 1-11
Keady 2-16; Shane O'Neill's 0-14
Clonmore 1-7; Belleek 0-22
Annaghmore 2-7; Collegeland 0-5
St Peter's 0-7; Lissummon 0-4
ACL – Div. IV
Forkhill 5-14; Killean 2-4
Dorsey Emmett's 1-9; O'Hanlon's 0-7
Corrinshego 2-6; Crossmaglen II 1-10
Phelim Brady's 0-3; Grange 1-11


game was played in madden

wolfe tones and newtown drew last night.  we played badly had a few injuries.  continue not to release ball in early to forward line.  got a lucky free at the end!

st peters did not field against us in "b" championship 2night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 27, 2009, 07:30:54 PM
Good post Winsamsoon. I totally agree.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 07:48:49 PM
Good post winsam, like that idea about clubs providing feedback. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on May 27, 2009, 08:27:45 PM
agree wit u winsamsoon but at the end of the day most refs in this county deserve criticism but no ref should be touched no matter what...

if the nab hada been threw out for a few years when they were up for a lot worse a while back we wouldn't be in this situation again.  but because of that people think they can get away with it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 08:35:03 PM
Quote from: armaghtrue on May 27, 2009, 08:27:45 PM
agree wit u winsamsoon but at the end of the day most refs in this county deserve criticism but no ref should be touched no matter what...

if the nab hada been threw out for a few years when they were up for a lot worse a while back we wouldn't be in this situation again.  but because of that people think they can get away with it
What situation are we in? An incident with Granemore a couple of weeks ago which sounded quite bad, granted.

This involving our player isnt worth talking about, a ref trying to make a mountain out of mole hill.   ::)

The way you say it makes it sound like there's a ref being attacked every week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 10:18:02 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 08:35:03 PM
Quote from: armaghtrue on May 27, 2009, 08:27:45 PM
agree wit u winsamsoon but at the end of the day most refs in this county deserve criticism but no ref should be touched no matter what...

if the nab hada been threw out for a few years when they were up for a lot worse a while back we wouldn't be in this situation again.  but because of that people think they can get away with it
What situation are we in? An incident with Granemore a couple of weeks ago which sounded quite bad, granted.

This involving our player isnt worth talking about, a ref trying to make a mountain out of mole hill.   ::)

The way you say it makes it sound like there's a ref being attacked every week.

Were you there Pints?

This is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.

Win , very good post, but a tad unrealistic.

You can;t just go find 10 new refereees, noone will od it. I don't want to ref, I doubt many on here would, sadly they are stuck with this bunch.

It's not fair to label all refs the same but within our county there always seems to be a lot of controversy.

Referees have to be monitored, but clubs are likely to be biased too. I would like a proper referees' committe developed amonst county delegates, they can then travel to certain matches and evaluate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: clanneire on May 27, 2009, 10:40:31 PM
to put light on this,all referees are asessed in the first 4 weeks of the season.2nd point,the committee have to appoint referees for the match and due to the lack of referees that clubs provide they have to make do wot they have.if u want changes on the standard of referees then tell ure club to provide refs,not slate them,alas two teams on the pitch and the ref decides that on a fri nite or sun a/noon that he would prefer to spend quality time with family or have a pint ,or listen to abusot i would know wot i would prefer,moral of story,learn the rules b4 u kick a ball
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 10:45:24 PM
QuoteWere you there Pints?
What does that matter?

QuoteThis is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.
I'm aware of that. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 10:49:43 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 10:45:24 PM
QuoteWere you there Pints?
What does that matter?

QuoteThis is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.
I'm aware of that. 

I find it strange that you can say he is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill if you weren't there and that your player did nothing wrong.The referee obviously disagrees so you are simply making assumptions on one word against another.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 11:06:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 10:49:43 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 10:45:24 PM
QuoteWere you there Pints?
What does that matter?

QuoteThis is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.
I'm aware of that. 

I find it strange that you can say he is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill if you weren't there and that your player did nothing wrong.The referee obviously disagrees so you are simply making assumptions on one word against another.
I never said the player did nothing wrong, in fact Ive said the opposite. 
The player is ultimately responsible because you cannot put your hands on the referee and if you do you leave yourself open to a long ban. That however will not stop me criticising the referee for making the most out of it, I know he's making the most out of it because everyone I've spoke to who was at the game said it a one push (at most) and they've no reason to lie. 
Two posters on this board have said similar but all you can come on and say is "where you there". That's just cheap, silly nonsense I thought you were a better poster than that.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 11:16:23 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 11:06:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 10:49:43 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 10:45:24 PM
QuoteWere you there Pints?
What does that matter?

QuoteThis is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.
I'm aware of that. 

I find it strange that you can say he is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill if you weren't there and that your player did nothing wrong.The referee obviously disagrees so you are simply making assumptions on one word against another.
I never said the player did nothing wrong, in fact Ive said the opposite. 
The player is ultimately responsible because you cannot put your hands on the referee and if you do you leave yourself open to a long ban. That however will not stop me criticising the referee for making the most out of it, I know he's making the most out of it because everyone I've spoke to who was at the game said it a one push (at most) and they've no reason to lie. 
Two posters on this board have said similar but all you can come on and say is "where you there". That's just cheap, silly nonsense I thought you were a better poster than that.   

Really?  :o

Well I wasn't trying to be cheap or silly, I just think in incidents like these it is hard to get the right picture ubless you are there.

For what it's worth, it sounds like the player is hard done by and I hope he gets off. I have seen it happen before (note: seen it POG  :P), I don't know if refs feel threatened or make genuine mistakes, it is hard to know.

I try not to criticise refs as they are doing a job that most, myself included, would be too lazy to do. I just hope the standards improve.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 11:24:23 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 11:16:23 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 11:06:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 10:49:43 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 10:45:24 PM
QuoteWere you there Pints?
What does that matter?

QuoteThis is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.
I'm aware of that. 

I find it strange that you can say he is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill if you weren't there and that your player did nothing wrong.The referee obviously disagrees so you are simply making assumptions on one word against another.
I never said the player did nothing wrong, in fact Ive said the opposite. 
The player is ultimately responsible because you cannot put your hands on the referee and if you do you leave yourself open to a long ban. That however will not stop me criticising the referee for making the most out of it, I know he's making the most out of it because everyone I've spoke to who was at the game said it a one push (at most) and they've no reason to lie. 
Two posters on this board have said similar but all you can come on and say is "where you there". That's just cheap, silly nonsense I thought you were a better poster than that.   

Really?  :o

Well I wasn't trying to be cheap or silly, I just think in incidents like these it is hard to get the right picture ubless you are there.

For what it's worth, it sounds like the player is hard done by and I hope he gets off. I have seen it happen before (note: seen it POG  :P), I don't know if refs feel threatened or make genuine mistakes, it is hard to know.

I try not to criticise refs as they are doing a job that most, myself included, would be too lazy to do. I just hope the standards improve.
well as decent a poster a liverpool/dromintee man can be. 

It's not that I hope he gets off (though admittedly I wont be complaining if he does) but I'd accept the ref putting in the report exactly what happened and if he has to serve a supension for placing hands on the ref then we can't really complain (he shouldnt have touched him) but it should not be blew up in to something it wasnt. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 11:25:08 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 11:24:23 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 11:16:23 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 11:06:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 10:49:43 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 10:45:24 PM
QuoteWere you there Pints?
What does that matter?

QuoteThis is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.
I'm aware of that. 

I find it strange that you can say he is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill if you weren't there and that your player did nothing wrong.The referee obviously disagrees so you are simply making assumptions on one word against another.
I never said the player did nothing wrong, in fact Ive said the opposite. 
The player is ultimately responsible because you cannot put your hands on the referee and if you do you leave yourself open to a long ban. That however will not stop me criticising the referee for making the most out of it, I know he's making the most out of it because everyone I've spoke to who was at the game said it a one push (at most) and they've no reason to lie. 
Two posters on this board have said similar but all you can come on and say is "where you there". That's just cheap, silly nonsense I thought you were a better poster than that.   

Really?  :o

Well I wasn't trying to be cheap or silly, I just think in incidents like these it is hard to get the right picture ubless you are there.

For what it's worth, it sounds like the player is hard done by and I hope he gets off. I have seen it happen before (note: seen it POG  :P), I don't know if refs feel threatened or make genuine mistakes, it is hard to know.

I try not to criticise refs as they are doing a job that most, myself included, would be too lazy to do. I just hope the standards improve.
well as decent a poster a liverpool/dromintee man can be. 

It's not that I hope he gets off (though admittedly I wont be complaining if he does) but I'd accept the ref putting in the report exactly what happened and if he has to serve a supension for placing hands on the ref then we can't really complain (he shouldnt have touched him) but it should not be blew up in to something it wasnt. 

You wouldn't be a dear and pm me the names please?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 28, 2009, 07:56:21 AM
Why would anyone be a ref?

If there were no referees... there would be no games!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 28, 2009, 09:03:58 AM
Quote from: armaghtrue on May 27, 2009, 08:27:45 PM
agree wit u winsamsoon but at the end of the day most refs in this county deserve criticism but no ref should be touched no matter what...

if the nab hada been threw out for a few years when they were up for a lot worse a while back we wouldn't be in this situation again.  but because of that people think they can get away with it

Not Jusitfying what happened that day but the differerance here was that there were no players involved at all, it was a lunatic club member that was involved, so it is slighlty different than a player hitting a referee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on May 28, 2009, 09:14:06 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but has this Smith boy not been involved in incidents before

Maghery v Carrickcruppen  a couple of years ago,  Was he not involved in a row in Tir an Og a while back either when he wasnt even refereeing.

From what I hear from talking to other people, he thinks he is the hard man and full of smart remarks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 28, 2009, 09:19:40 AM
He was a bit of a thug when he played right enough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 28, 2009, 09:29:24 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 28, 2009, 09:19:40 AM
He was a bit of a thug when he played right enough.

He's a bouncer in the Railway Bar in Lurgan at the weekends and he def fancies himself as a hard man, i've heard him myself threaten players whilst doing lines man in Portadown one night so i'm surprised he didn't wanna kill this guy who tapped him on the belly FFS. If he's such a tough man that can beat half of mid ulster why would a tap on the belly matter to him, he's made out to be that hard Chuck Norris is scared of him FFS :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 28, 2009, 12:06:59 PM
Quote from: clanneire on May 27, 2009, 10:40:31 PM
to put light on this,all referees are asessed in the first 4 weeks of the season.2nd point,the committee have to appoint referees for the match and due to the lack of referees that clubs provide they have to make do wot they have.if u want changes on the standard of referees then tell ure club to provide refs,not slate them,alas two teams on the pitch and the ref decides that on a fri nite or sun a/noon that he would prefer to spend quality time with family or have a pint ,or listen to abusot i would know wot i would prefer,moral of story,learn the rules b4 u kick a ball

Eire this is the point that yo have failed to read in my post. We have a lot of refs that don't know the rules. We also have a lot of refs that interpret the same rule in different ways, check back to the incidents i cited. I realise they give up theri spare time and i acknowledge that they are an integral part of our sport. However they are not above the laws of our game and should certainly not be adding to the controversy as much as they do.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on May 28, 2009, 03:54:20 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 28, 2009, 09:29:24 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on May 28, 2009, 09:19:40 AM
He was a bit of a thug when he played right enough.

He's a bouncer in the Railway Bar in Lurgan at the weekends and he def fancies himself as a hard man, i've heard him myself threaten players whilst doing lines man in Portadown one night so i'm surprised he didn't wanna kill this guy who tapped him on the belly FFS. If he's such a tough man that can beat half of mid ulster why would a tap on the belly matter to him, he's made out to be that hard Chuck Norris is scared of him FFS :D :D:D
I seen wat happen on sunday and the lad in question only tap him on his belly.pints is rite he`s takin the piss for reportin him for strikin..but still should not have touch the ref at the end of the day.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 29, 2009, 04:00:12 PM
Armagh website looking very well.

The eminem and dr dre videos in the video site is probably a mistake  :D

Otherwise looks very tidy - well done county board.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on May 29, 2009, 05:29:38 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 29, 2009, 04:00:12 PM
Armagh website looking very well.

The eminem and dr dre videos in the video site is probably a mistake  :D

Otherwise looks very tidy - well done county board.

very pleased with the website! looks great!

hope it updated weekly now!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 29, 2009, 08:45:50 PM
Sarsfields are absolutely taking Dromintee to pieces.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 29, 2009, 09:12:22 PM
Well corn u are not on ur own,Cross took Mullaghbawn to pieces....

4-21  1-09


Frannie Hanratty-outstanding....No one is goin 2 touch cross for 10 years lads at least....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 29, 2009, 09:49:25 PM
Bridge beat tones by two.
Valuable couple of points for us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 29, 2009, 09:55:35 PM
According to orchardcounty nab beat harps by 6  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 29, 2009, 10:01:49 PM
Cruppen 2-10 St Pat's 0-14

Cruppen won it with a goal from the last kick of the game. Complete disaster. Off to another bad start and were 0-4 to 0-1 down with 10 minutes. Slowly made our way back into the game and finished the first half level at 0-4 a piece. Very very poor standard of football in the first half. Picked up a fair bit in the second half and we showed good character to come back from a Cruppen goal midway through the second half. Looked like Tony Donnelly had won it for us in injury time but Cruppen struck with a late late goal. Eugene Casey did the lion's share of our scoring from ball and Mal Mackin had a good enough match.

Hard to know what to say after that. Just one of those things I suppose. We're certainly in a relegation battle now it seems. Couple of strange decisions from the referee. The worst was in the first half when he gave a wide despite both umpires initially signalling a point to Cullyhanna. Have to say my impression was that it was over though I was a brave bit away. Really need to get a couple of wins now to lift our season.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on May 29, 2009, 10:03:32 PM
Tír na nÓg beat Newtown 2-14 to 1-7.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 29, 2009, 10:15:04 PM
Clans had one to spare over Pearse Og. Leading by 9 at one stage. Pearse Og battled well and Clans should never have let them back in but a wins a win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on May 29, 2009, 10:41:54 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on May 29, 2009, 10:15:04 PM
Clans had one to spare over Pearse Og. Leading by 9 at one stage. Pearse Og battled well and Clans should never have let them back in but a wins a win.

Thought there was at least two or three in it at the end. Clans won easy enough against very poor opposition.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 29, 2009, 10:56:14 PM
Quote from: Donagh on May 29, 2009, 10:41:54 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on May 29, 2009, 10:15:04 PM
Clans had one to spare over Pearse Og. Leading by 9 at one stage. Pearse Og battled well and Clans should never have let them back in but a wins a win.

Thought there was at least two or three in it at the end. Clans won easy enough against very poor opposition.

There was a point in it at the end. 

Pearse Ogs had a terrible first half and were down 2-6 to 0-3 at one stage, but got 3 points in a row just before the half time whistle to leave 6 in it.

The Ogs had a much better second half getting to within a point of the clans but just couldn't get in front.

On the night the Clans were the better team against a makeshift Ogs line out which was missing about 9 or 10 of it's starting players.  JJ Clarke also had to come off inured after 10 or 15 minutes which didn't help matters.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on May 29, 2009, 11:29:22 PM
Congrats to Clans, I did not think they could win this game ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cillsleibhe on May 30, 2009, 01:00:34 AM
Culloville 1.9 Killeavy 0.15

Much better performance all round from Killeavy after three straight defeats.  Gary Reel outstanding as makeshift midfielder due to injuries.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 30, 2009, 10:11:48 AM
Tullysaran had a great performance and beat St Pauls 2-10 to 0-6.

I heard that St Peters destroyed Port Mor.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 30, 2009, 10:28:37 AM
Nab beat Harps by 4, not an undeserving win but Harps can have plenty of gripes.  Jim Slevin as ref, in the first half particularly, was nothing short of disgraceful, directly responsible for about 1-3 of the Nab's scores (A ridiculous pen and 3 or 4 soft frees). We need to get our missing players back asap or our season is going to slip away from us.

Have to say the Nab are hard to watch, must have had 13 men inside their 50 for the whole of the 2nd half, seems to be working for them ok but.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 30, 2009, 11:40:53 AM
How did maghery do last night.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on May 30, 2009, 11:44:28 AM
Bad loss alright Benny, but for every player out injured/suspended it's an opportunity for someone else to step up and make a claim for a starting place.
Keep the faith, it's easy for any of us (myself included) to be very critical of the team, but now more than ever we need to support them.
Division 2 was never going to be the "cake walk" a lot of people thought and the longer you spend there the tougher it will be to get out of it.
WhiteX and Maghery look to be the front runners for promotion, but Harps have to get back to winning ways and make Abbey Park a fortress.
 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 30, 2009, 11:49:31 AM
Quote from: crossfire on May 30, 2009, 11:40:53 AM
How did maghery do last night.?
They beat whitecross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 30, 2009, 01:29:00 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 29, 2009, 08:45:50 PM
Sarsfields are absolutely taking Dromintee to pieces.

16in it in the end i hear :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 30, 2009, 01:33:28 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 29, 2009, 09:55:35 PM
According to orchardcounty nab beat harps by 6  :o

harps going find it tough go up now with whitecross,nab and maghery flying
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 30, 2009, 01:49:40 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 29, 2009, 09:49:25 PM
Bridge beat tones by two.
Valuable couple of points for us.

bridge 1-6 wolfe tones 0-7

bridge started the game qute well and raced into a free point lead.

we gradually got back into the game and started to dominate.  continue to be hard to watch and refuse to put early quialty ball in to the full forward line

The bridge full forward got a goal against the run of play before halftime

score at halftime 1-5 to 4points

within 2 mins of restart reduce to 14 men chris mcalinden sent off for 2 yellows deserved 2nd 1 but cant mind the first one though was in few mins late

bridge never real;ly threatened in the second half and was disappointed we couldnt get the scores.  deserved a point at least i thought

ciaran conlon went off with what looed like a bad hamstring injury
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on May 30, 2009, 02:46:22 PM
DIVISION: 1 PLD W D L PTS
Crossmaglen 6 6 0 0 12
Pearse Og    6 4 1 1 9
Dromintee    6 4 0 2 8
Cullaville        7 3 1 3 7
Killeavy         6 3 0 3 6
Carrickcruppin 7 2 1 4 5
Mullabawn     7 2 1 4 5
Sarsfields       7 2 1 4 5
St.Patricks     6 2 0 4 4 
Clan na Gael   6 1 1 4 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 30, 2009, 05:24:25 PM
Quote from: Donagh on May 29, 2009, 10:41:54 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on May 29, 2009, 10:15:04 PM
Clans had one to spare over Pearse Og. Leading by 9 at one stage. Pearse Og battled well and Clans should never have let them back in but a wins a win.

Thought there was at least two or three in it at the end. Clans won easy enough against very poor opposition.

One point doesn't sound easy enough to me!! Very poor opposition- between injury and county players thought it was as well as could be expected. Would still have liked them to win but was always going to be difficult.

Under 16 team managed to beat the Harps in a championship replay, they done very well by all accounts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on May 31, 2009, 12:41:34 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 30, 2009, 01:29:00 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 29, 2009, 08:45:50 PM
Sarsfields are absolutely taking Dromintee to pieces.

16in it in the end i hear :o

Yip, I think Sarsfields hit 4-16.

Probably the worse scoreline in my lifetime anyway, weird considering we had actually been playing decent in the league this year. Obviously we were missinglt eight or nine starters, but it was at home. Fair play Sarsfields.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 01, 2009, 08:27:52 AM
Think Madden & Ballyhegan drew.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 01, 2009, 08:30:56 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 30, 2009, 10:28:37 AM
Nab beat Harps by 4, not an undeserving win but Harps can have plenty of gripes.  Jim Slevin as ref, in the first half particularly, was nothing short of disgraceful, directly responsible for about 1-3 of the Nab's scores (A ridiculous pen and 3 or 4 soft frees). We need to get our missing players back asap or our season is going to slip away from us.

Have to say the Nab are hard to watch, must have had 13 men inside their 50 for the whole of the 2nd half, seems to be working for them ok but.

Jim slevin was bad alright, but to say that he was responsible for 1-3 of nabs scores is ridiculous, it was def a peno, our guy was pulled down in the box.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 01, 2009, 09:38:33 AM
On the Clans game, i knew the Ogs had players so it was a good opportunity for us to get our first win. We started very well but let the Ogs back into it with 3 late points at the end of the first half, 2nd half we just didn't show and i suppose the Og's upped their game too. All in all we hung in for a 1pt win which was a relief to actually get a win, we will not be getting carried away by beating an under strength Ogs team but a wins a win and hopefully it will bring a bit of confidence for the coming weeks...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on June 01, 2009, 10:02:44 AM
Was at the game, ogs didnt play well but showed alot of character to come back, Clans played well though looked a very young team and hit alot of good scores
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on June 01, 2009, 10:05:57 AM
also went to the ogs and clans game. Clans deserved their win but to be honest i didnt even recognise the ogs team. they had about 5 or 6 b players playing and a few minors. i take it the rumours were true about the amount of palyers they were missing. well done clans. this should spur them on and kick start their season. Looking forward to friday and the ogs cross game but i hope the ogs field a stronger team than they did against clans!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 01, 2009, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on June 01, 2009, 08:30:56 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 30, 2009, 10:28:37 AM
Nab beat Harps by 4, not an undeserving win but Harps can have plenty of gripes.  Jim Slevin as ref, in the first half particularly, was nothing short of disgraceful, directly responsible for about 1-3 of the Nab's scores (A ridiculous pen and 3 or 4 soft frees). We need to get our missing players back asap or our season is going to slip away from us.

Have to say the Nab are hard to watch, must have had 13 men inside their 50 for the whole of the 2nd half, seems to be working for them ok but.

Jim slevin was bad alright, but to say that he was responsible for 1-3 of nabs scores is ridiculous, it was def a peno, our guy was pulled down in the box.
It was a hauling match at the time, the corner forward had our CB by the jersey, a laughable penalty, doubtful it was even inside the box as well.  Jim Slevin was determined to give us f**k all and if that sounds like sour grapes i dont care.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 01, 2009, 12:00:07 PM
barney henry referred the granemore v clann eirann game fri night and gave one of the most one sided referring performances i,ve ever seen .how did a north armagh man get to ref this game ? surely it should have been a south armagh ref .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 01, 2009, 12:48:02 PM
Torres if you flick back a few pages to my post of the refs . This is a common thing (i wasn't at that match) but refs will always favour the teams that they live closer too (for obvious reasons) Someone will probably post now with an exception but in the whole they do.. The same happens our club when we play south Armagh teams with a south Armagh ref. It is wrong and the sysytem needs changed to stop frustration boiling over between players and officials.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 01, 2009, 01:45:28 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 01, 2009, 10:49:58 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on June 01, 2009, 08:30:56 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on May 30, 2009, 10:28:37 AM
Nab beat Harps by 4, not an undeserving win but Harps can have plenty of gripes.  Jim Slevin as ref, in the first half particularly, was nothing short of disgraceful, directly responsible for about 1-3 of the Nab's scores (A ridiculous pen and 3 or 4 soft frees). We need to get our missing players back asap or our season is going to slip away from us.

Have to say the Nab are hard to watch, must have had 13 men inside their 50 for the whole of the 2nd half, seems to be working for them ok but.

Jim slevin was bad alright, but to say that he was responsible for 1-3 of nabs scores is ridiculous, it was def a peno, our guy was pulled down in the box.
It was a hauling match at the time, the corner forward had our CB by the jersey, a laughable penalty, doubtful it was even inside the box as well.  Jim Slevin was determined to give us f**k all and if that sounds like sour grapes i dont care.

Sour Grapes is exactly what it sounds like, it was actually our CHB that won the penalty, he was straight through and pulled to the ground, had the shoe been on the other foot, you would have been crying looking a penalty, I agree with you that Jim Slevin was bad, but he was bad for both sides
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 01, 2009, 03:25:20 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 01, 2009, 12:48:02 PM
Torres if you flick back a few pages to my post of the refs . This is a common thing (i wasn't at that match) but refs will always favour the teams that they live closer too (for obvious reasons) Someone will probably post now with an exception but in the whole they do.. The same happens our club when we play south Armagh teams with a south Armagh ref. It is wrong and the sysytem needs changed to stop frustration boiling over between players and officials.
the clanns no 2 got into a wrestling match with one of our players and while still on his knee,s he headbutted our player everyone up that side of the pitch myself included clearly seen it but not this ref who booked both players  :o , its no wonder frustration boils over among players and officals with such inept refferring yes it wrong and the system needs changed and referre,s need acessed but will it ever happen .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 01, 2009, 05:50:47 PM
never seen the incident but i was talking to the lad involved and he said he was punched first in the face and he has the face to prove it. (that is why he was on his knees) he then retaliated with a headbutt. Both players to the letter of the law, going on both version ie yours and his should have got the line. None of them did which only further highlights the need for change and refs being monitored.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 01, 2009, 05:53:16 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 01, 2009, 05:50:47 PM
never seen the incident but i was talking to the lad involved and he said he was punched first in the face and he has the face to prove it. (that is why he was on his knees) he then retaliated with a headbutt. Both players to the letter of the law, going on both version ie yours and his should have got the line. None of them did which only further highlights the need for change and refs being monitored.

I think you's are talking about 2 different matches
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 01, 2009, 05:58:17 PM
I was at the Clans Ogs game last Friday too and to be honest I thought it was a great game to watch. There may well have been players missing etc but with regards entertainment (which is what I watch Gaelic football for) it was an exiting club game with alot of good play and some very good scores. I especially enjoyed the Clans no. 6 getting his face busted open and busting the Ogs no. 12 open in return. Great! Fair play to the ref for letting them get on with it man v man. It was a match id like to watch every week - good hard football, two teams wanting to win and some fisty cuffs!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on June 01, 2009, 06:19:53 PM
who was clanns no 6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 01, 2009, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 01, 2009, 05:53:16 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 01, 2009, 05:50:47 PM
never seen the incident but i was talking to the lad involved and he said he was punched first in the face and he has the face to prove it. (that is why he was on his knees) he then retaliated with a headbutt. Both players to the letter of the law, going on both version ie yours and his should have got the line. None of them did which only further highlights the need for change and refs being monitored.

I think you's are talking about 2 different matches

yeah , i,m referring to an incident in the granemore v clann eirann game , maybe it was  me using the clann,s reference in my other post ,apoligies .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on June 01, 2009, 07:15:52 PM
Heard about the trouble myself, saw the war wounds from the Clans CHB on Saturday there, an unprovoked attack I am lead to believe
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 01, 2009, 07:17:07 PM
Lets just say he gave as good as he got as JP Donnelly was busted clean open. But once again if you are going to throw digs then you should expect to get one back. That is what happened JP.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 01, 2009, 07:25:08 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 01, 2009, 07:17:07 PM
Lets just say he gave as good as he got as JP Donnelly was busted clean open. But once again if you are going to throw digs then you should expect to get one back. That is what happened JP.

Donnelly is fond of the sly digs alright!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 01, 2009, 07:59:22 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 01, 2009, 07:25:08 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 01, 2009, 07:17:07 PM
Lets just say he gave as good as he got as JP Donnelly was busted clean open. But once again if you are going to throw digs then you should expect to get one back. That is what happened JP.

Donnelly is fond of the sly digs alright!

the fella in the granemore/ceirann [ moore ] is also fond of the odd dig as he was sent of against us last season , wonder was he the  player who was sent off v harps when they met earlier in the season .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 01, 2009, 08:47:50 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 01, 2009, 07:25:08 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 01, 2009, 07:17:07 PM
Lets just say he gave as good as he got as JP Donnelly was busted clean open. But once again if you are going to throw digs then you should expect to get one back. That is what happened JP.

Donnelly is fond of the sly digs alright!

well he got all the digging he wanted with our fella.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 01, 2009, 09:50:07 PM
Just to clarify lads and to save any confusion, please from now on only refer to Clan na Gael as "CLANS" and not Clann Eireann; as there is only one "Clans". Nobody even calls Clann Eireann "Clanns". ( Though do feel free to refer to them as tramps, shower of orange b*stards etc)

On both incidents, didn't see the one involving Clann Eireann but know that the player in question enjoys a bit of sly hitting, hit him back though and it should keep him quiet.

The Clans/Pearse Og incident was a case of an eye for an eye; don't give it out if you can't take it and I don't think there were any real complaints from either side as everything sort of cancelled out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 01, 2009, 11:03:13 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on June 01, 2009, 06:19:53 PM
who was clanns no 6

B lennon- it will do him no harm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 02, 2009, 10:49:21 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on June 01, 2009, 06:19:53 PM
who was clanns no 6

Why umgola do you know this guy??? I didn't see how it started but i seen it finishing and TBH i thought it was handbags stuff untill the 2 guys in question turned around and the Clans no6 eye was up like a bap and the Og's guy was opened like a tin of beans. Some fecking handbags stuff that... :D :D :D

And as someone already pointed out both sides accepted it and that was the end of it...one lad got hit, he hit back and the both lived happily ever after
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 02, 2009, 10:58:48 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 7 JUNE 2009

Monday 1 June
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
St Peter's v Middletown (Eamon Nugent)

Friday 5 June
ACL – Div. I (7.30)
Sarsfields v Carrickcruppen (Paudie Hughes)
St Patrick's v Clan na Gael (Jim Lynch)
Pearse Og v Crossmaglen (Rory Robinson)
Mullaghbawn v Culloville (Barney Henry)
Killeavy v Dromintee (Jimmy McKee)
ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Silverbridge v Whitecross (Patrick Duffy)
Maghery v Ballymacnab (Seamus O'Neill)
Harps v Granemore (Vincent O'Neill)
Clann Eireann v Madden (Stephen Murray)
Ballyhegan v St Michael's (Eugene D Nugent)
Tir na nÓg v Wolfe Tone (Frank McDonald)
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
St Paul's v Shane O'Neill's (Kevin McNeice)
Keady v Collegeland (Damian McConville)
Clonmore v Lissummon (Jim Slevin)
Annaghmore v An Port Mor (Tony O'Hare)
St Peter's v Tullysaran (Kevin Murtagh)
ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Killean v O'Hanlon's (Noel Martin)
Forkhill v Crossmaglen II (Mickey Leonard)
Dorsey Emmett's v Derrynoose (Dessie McDonnell)
Corrinshego v Eire Og (Paul Boylan)
Clady v Grange (Ger Devlin)
Mullaghbrack v Phelim Brady's (Jim Burns)

Sunday 7 June
ACL – Div. I (2.00)
Crossmaglen v Clan na Gael (Barney Henry)
Dromintee v St Patrick's (Rory Robinson)
Killeavy v Pearse Og (Paudie Hughes)
ACL – Div. II (2.00)
Wolfe Tone v Granemore (Patrick Duffy)
Whitecross v Tir na nÓg (Kevin Gallogly)
ACL – Div. III (2.00)
Middletown v Belleek (Eamon Nugent)
An Port Mor v Clonmore (Oliver Hearty) (4.00)
ACL – Div. IV (2.00)
Dorsey Emmett's v Phelim Brady's (Frank McDonald)
Eire Og v Crossmaglen II (Jim Burns)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on June 02, 2009, 01:57:20 PM
illdecide - i thought it might have been yourself

were you playing friday night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 02, 2009, 02:07:13 PM
wise up umgolaar that boy couldn't fight sleep ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on June 02, 2009, 02:11:24 PM
was doing the line at the stand side
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 02, 2009, 02:11:56 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on June 02, 2009, 01:57:20 PM
illdecide - i thought it might have been yourself

were you playing friday night

When i was watching it i was wishing it was me ;) :D...My playing days are over chief (although there are some d**ks on here will tell ya they never started...lol :D)

I was part of the £3 in club on Friday night >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on June 02, 2009, 02:14:01 PM
typing mistake there

was he doing the line on the stand side
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 02, 2009, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on June 02, 2009, 02:14:01 PM
typing mistake there

was he doing the line on the stand side

Was who doing the line?...Me? no i wasn't doing the line, i thought you said you were doing the line
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 02, 2009, 03:13:13 PM
This sounds like a sketch from laurel and hardy or the vultures from jungle book. ;) ;) :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 02, 2009, 05:39:28 PM
I hope you all got your complimentary burger from the Clanns after the match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on June 02, 2009, 05:58:57 PM
no and not even a bottle of bo in the stands either, the credit crunch must have reached lurgan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 02, 2009, 06:58:19 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on June 01, 2009, 09:50:07 PM
Just to clarify lads and to save any confusion, please from now on only refer to Clan na Gael as "CLANS" and not Clann Eireann; as there is only one "Clans". Nobody even calls Clann Eireann "Clanns". ( Though do feel free to refer to them as tramps, shower of orange b*stards etc)

On both incidents, didn't see the one involving Clann Eireann but know that the player in question enjoys a bit of sly hitting, hit him back though and it should keep him quiet.

clann eirann came across as very dislikeable team , fouling of the ball, sly digs , foot blocking in the tackle , slide tackling , wingeing for everything ,  feigning injury , time wasting,  yet they did,nt need to with barney henry looking after them .even their linesman gave line balls which were still in play and their umpire raised the finger for a point which had clearly gone wide but surprisely ref over ruled him , just thought i,d get that rant out of my system as the match left a bad taste in my mouth .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 02, 2009, 07:01:52 PM
Quote from: torres on June 02, 2009, 06:58:19 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on June 01, 2009, 09:50:07 PM
Just to clarify lads and to save any confusion, please from now on only refer to Clan na Gael as "CLANS" and not Clann Eireann; as there is only one "Clans". Nobody even calls Clann Eireann "Clanns". ( Though do feel free to refer to them as tramps, shower of orange b*stards etc)

On both incidents, didn't see the one involving Clann Eireann but know that the player in question enjoys a bit of sly hitting, hit him back though and it should keep him quiet.

clann eirann came across as very dislikeable team , fouling of the ball, sly digs , foot blocking in the tackle , slide tackling , wingeing for everything ,  feigning injury , time wasting,  yet they did,nt need to with barney henry looking after them .even their linesman gave line balls which were still in play and their umpire raised the finger for a point which had clearly gone wide but surprisely ref over ruled him , just thought i,d get that rant out of my system as the match left a bad taste in my mouth .

typical shineys ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 02, 2009, 09:57:00 PM
big game the mara charlie!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bigfrank on June 02, 2009, 10:00:34 PM
Anyone confirm that Johnny Murtagh from Cross is for the states next week to play ball???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 02, 2009, 10:00:54 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on June 02, 2009, 09:57:00 PM
big game the mara charlie!

is surely :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 03, 2009, 08:05:03 AM
Are those the correct fixtures Full back? Think there are some differences from the Irish News yesterday!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 03, 2009, 10:44:40 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on June 03, 2009, 08:05:03 AM
Are those the correct fixtures Full back? Think there are some differences from the Irish News yesterday!

I got them from Orchard County Goats, they may have been changed
What differences were there?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 03, 2009, 12:37:40 PM
Quote from: full back on June 03, 2009, 10:44:40 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on June 03, 2009, 08:05:03 AM
Are those the correct fixtures Full back? Think there are some differences from the Irish News yesterday!

I got them from Orchard County Goats, they may have been changed
What differences were there?

Ballyhegan game down for Sunday in the Irish News. - Hope it is Friday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 03, 2009, 10:01:40 PM
b championship semi final

clannagael 1-11 wolfe tones 0-7

clans a strong outfit wont be easy beat.  all the best for the final.  fitzroyalty manning the defence! :o

tirnanog v wolfe tones senior game has been moved to 2mara night (thursday) at 7.30 in portadown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 03, 2009, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 03, 2009, 10:01:40 PM
b championship semi final

clannagael 1-11 wolfe tones 0-7

clans a strong outfit wont be easy beat.  all the best for the final.  fitzroyalty manning the defence! :o

tirnanog v wolfe tones senior game has been moved to 2mara night (thursday) at 7.30 in portadown
Tones defence wasn't easy penetrated either, put up a good fight, Clans a bit complacent going into game. Tones keeper played a stormer
Must check that game out, Tones/pdown usually serve up a good game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 03, 2009, 10:34:46 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on June 03, 2009, 10:08:56 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 03, 2009, 10:01:40 PM
b championship semi final

clannagael 1-11 wolfe tones 0-7

clans a strong outfit wont be easy beat.  all the best for the final.  fitzroyalty manning the defence! :o

tirnanog v wolfe tones senior game has been moved to 2mara night (thursday) at 7.30 in portadown
Tones defence wasn't easy penetrated either, put up a good fight, Clans a bit complacent going into game. Tones keeper played a stormer
Must check that game out, Tones/pdown usually serve up a good game.

our seniors would do well to score 0-7 2mara the way things are going!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 04, 2009, 09:15:06 AM
Hi charlie was that you i left for dead last night and scored a wonder point ;) ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 04, 2009, 09:33:09 AM
Harps were destroying Middletown in the Mid B semi when I left.  How did the Ogs get on in the other semi?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on June 04, 2009, 12:49:07 PM
destroyed collegeland. over after 5 mins
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 04, 2009, 01:11:47 PM
The 'Saran beat Port Mor handy in B League Derby.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 04, 2009, 01:41:25 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 04, 2009, 09:15:06 AM
Hi charlie was that you i left for dead last night and scored a wonder point ;) ;D

doubtful!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on June 04, 2009, 09:08:29 PM
Tir na nOg 1-10 Tones 0-7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 04, 2009, 09:46:02 PM
Considering that Armagh Harps won the 2008  county minor final in a canter and some posters said at that time that they had 12 or 13 of the team eligible again this year i am surprised that they have only one player on the county minor team. Do Harps posters think they should have more.? :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 05, 2009, 09:30:18 AM
Quote from: crossfire on June 04, 2009, 09:46:02 PM
Considering that Armagh Harps won the 2008  county minor final in a canter and some posters said at that time that they had 12 or 13 of the team eligible again this year i am surprised that they have only one player on the county minor team. Do Harps posters think they should have more.? :-\

They have three on the squad. Mc Kenna Con Stevenson and Karol Loughran, but they maybe should have more. i don't think the harps are worried how many they have as long as they keep winning.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on June 05, 2009, 01:22:33 PM
personally dont think harps will win the minor championship this year. although they only lost 2 players, they were probably two of their best players in conor coulter and liam mckenna. think they could struggle for scores without coulter.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on June 05, 2009, 02:43:51 PM
i think its fair to say the Harps are favourites but the championship doesn't always work like unless your talking about the Senior Championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on June 05, 2009, 05:00:28 PM
did any granemore or harps hear game off tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 05, 2009, 05:51:38 PM
it,s still on .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on June 05, 2009, 09:02:43 PM
Killeavy defeated Dromintee this evening in the League.  Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 05, 2009, 09:22:29 PM
Pearse Ogs 0-8  Crossmaglen 1-6

Cross were leading by 1-5 to 3 points at half time.

In the second half the ogs dominated but missed 7 frees in this period. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 05, 2009, 09:25:39 PM
Clan na Gael 0-10 St Pat's 0-7

Poor enough standard affair. 0-4 a piece at half time - we kicked a lot of wides int he first half that probably cost us. Clans came and won the match with 5 points in the first 10 minutes of the second half because they played the smarter, more direct football, Their no 15 (Marty someone?) was the star of the show and had us in all sorts of bother. We came back from 6 down to get within 3 but never really got the goal chance to level it.

Most of the talk was about the referee. To be fair to Jim Lynch, I didn't think he was as bad as a lot of people said he was. It was a niggly enough match and hard to referee. He definetly got a few decisions wrong though and was too indecisive at time, throwing up the ball too much instead of making a decision. Was sure we should have had a second half penalty as well which would have changed the game.

We're in real trouble now - bottom of the table having lost to 2 of the teams around us in the last week. Need a win on Sunday but wouldn't be at all confident going away to Dromintee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on June 05, 2009, 09:49:03 PM
Marty Lavery? wee red lad?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on June 05, 2009, 09:54:06 PM
Mullaghbawn 1-09
Cullavile 0-06

Good win, we need to be pickin up these points at home....Tell u what, other than OGs and cross its prooving to be a tight enuf league this year,rest are reasonably matched...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on June 05, 2009, 09:58:05 PM
Harps beaten by Granemore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 05, 2009, 10:38:59 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 05, 2009, 09:25:39 PM
Clan na Gael 0-10 St Pat's 0-7

Poor enough standard affair. 0-4 a piece at half time - we kicked a lot of wides int he first half that probably cost us. Clans came and won the match with 5 points in the first 10 minutes of the second half because they played the smarter, more direct football, Their no 15 (Marty someone?) was the star of the show and had us in all sorts of bother. We came back from 6 down to get within 3 but never really got the goal chance to level it.

Most of the talk was about the referee. To be fair to Jim Lynch, I didn't think he was as bad as a lot of people said he was. It was a niggly enough match and hard to referee. He definetly got a few decisions wrong though and was too indecisive at time, throwing up the ball too much instead of making a decision. Was sure we should have had a second half penalty as well which would have changed the game.

We're in real trouble now - bottom of the table having lost to 2 of the teams around us in the last week. Need a win on Sunday but wouldn't be at all confident going away to Dromintee.
Marty Lavery indeed. Was a terror throughout, unmarkable tonight. If cullyhanna focused more on actually playing football they maybe wouldn't find themselves in the position they are in. Disagree about the ref, woeful. Poor performance IMO, especially when it came to St Pat's throwing elbows, pulling jerseys and boxin players. Two of our players were felled within the space of ten seconds, one with a bust nose, the other knocked out, by the same cullyhanna player might I add and the ref did f*ck all. Must have been intimidated, a legitimate Clans point disallowed, whilst a wide for Cullyhanna was awarded as a point  ??? Was slow to award blatant free kicks and most of the time just took the easy option and hopped the ball to try and please everyone. Good win for the Clans, now to knock it into them Cross heures on Sunday! :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 05, 2009, 10:43:39 PM
DIVISION: 1 PLD W D L PTS
Crossmaglen    7 7 0 0 14
Pearse Og       7 4 1 2 9
Dromintee       7 4 0 3 8
Killeavy            7 4 0 3 8 
Carrickcruppin   8 3 1 4 7
Cullaville           8 3 1 4 7
Mullabawn        8 3 1 4 7
Clan na Gael      7 2 1 4 5
Sarsfields          8 2 1 5 5
St.Patricks        7 2 0 5 4 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 05, 2009, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on June 05, 2009, 10:38:59 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 05, 2009, 09:25:39 PM
Clan na Gael 0-10 St Pat's 0-7

Poor enough standard affair. 0-4 a piece at half time - we kicked a lot of wides int he first half that probably cost us. Clans came and won the match with 5 points in the first 10 minutes of the second half because they played the smarter, more direct football, Their no 15 (Marty someone?) was the star of the show and had us in all sorts of bother. We came back from 6 down to get within 3 but never really got the goal chance to level it.

Most of the talk was about the referee. To be fair to Jim Lynch, I didn't think he was as bad as a lot of people said he was. It was a niggly enough match and hard to referee. He definetly got a few decisions wrong though and was too indecisive at time, throwing up the ball too much instead of making a decision. Was sure we should have had a second half penalty as well which would have changed the game.

We're in real trouble now - bottom of the table having lost to 2 of the teams around us in the last week. Need a win on Sunday but wouldn't be at all confident going away to Dromintee.
Marty Lavery indeed. Was a terror throughout, unmarkable tonight. If cullyhanna focused more on actually playing football they maybe wouldn't find themselves in the position they are in. Disagree about the ref, woeful. Poor performance IMO, especially when it came to St Pat's throwing elbows, pulling jerseys and boxin players. Two of our players were felled within the space of ten seconds, one with a bust nose, the other knocked out, by the same cullyhanna player might I add and the ref did f*ck all. Must have been intimidated, a legitimate Clans point disallowed, whilst a wide for Cullyhanna was awarded as a point  ??? Was slow to award blatant free kicks and most of the time just took the easy option and hopped the ball to try and please everyone. Good win for the Clans, now to knock it into them Cross heures on Sunday! :)

Ach give over Fitzroyalty, all the points / wides were awarded correctly, despite the Clans umpire sticking his hand up for a point that had clearly gone 5 yards wide. Don't know what sort of intimidation you're crying about. I didn't see any Clans men knocked out - both teams were niggling away at each other as bad as the other. Clans no 13 was lucky just before half time - think the referee missed the incident though he realised something had happened. By the way, Clans seemed to get an awful lot of cramp and injuries that they recovered from in the last 5 minutes. Strange one that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 05, 2009, 11:28:28 PM
Quote from: Harpo on June 05, 2009, 09:58:05 PM
Harps beaten by Granemore
granemore 1-14 - 1-8 harps , from our point of view it was a very good team performance from 1 to 15 with kevin kelly in goals , b doyle [ capt ] , t mc clelland , k toner , to the fore , while our forwards took some great scores c o, connor [ 6 pts ] , j o, neill [ 3 pts ] , c rafferty [ 2 pts ] , j fahy [ 1-1 ] . a deserved victory . i was surprised the harps did,nt move c holmes out onto k toner to try and curb his influence .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 05, 2009, 11:35:50 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 05, 2009, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on June 05, 2009, 10:38:59 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 05, 2009, 09:25:39 PM
Clan na Gael 0-10 St Pat's 0-7

Poor enough standard affair. 0-4 a piece at half time - we kicked a lot of wides int he first half that probably cost us. Clans came and won the match with 5 points in the first 10 minutes of the second half because they played the smarter, more direct football, Their no 15 (Marty someone?) was the star of the show and had us in all sorts of bother. We came back from 6 down to get within 3 but never really got the goal chance to level it.

Most of the talk was about the referee. To be fair to Jim Lynch, I didn't think he was as bad as a lot of people said he was. It was a niggly enough match and hard to referee. He definetly got a few decisions wrong though and was too indecisive at time, throwing up the ball too much instead of making a decision. Was sure we should have had a second half penalty as well which would have changed the game.

We're in real trouble now - bottom of the table having lost to 2 of the teams around us in the last week. Need a win on Sunday but wouldn't be at all confident going away to Dromintee.
Marty Lavery indeed. Was a terror throughout, unmarkable tonight. If cullyhanna focused more on actually playing football they maybe wouldn't find themselves in the position they are in. Disagree about the ref, woeful. Poor performance IMO, especially when it came to St Pat's throwing elbows, pulling jerseys and boxin players. Two of our players were felled within the space of ten seconds, one with a bust nose, the other knocked out, by the same cullyhanna player might I add and the ref did f*ck all. Must have been intimidated, a legitimate Clans point disallowed, whilst a wide for Cullyhanna was awarded as a point  ??? Was slow to award blatant free kicks and most of the time just took the easy option and hopped the ball to try and please everyone. Good win for the Clans, now to knock it into them Cross heures on Sunday! :)

Ach give over Fitzroyalty, all the points / wides were awarded correctly, despite the Clans umpire sticking his hand up for a point that had clearly gone 5 yards wide. Don't know what sort of intimidation you're crying about. I didn't see any Clans men knocked out - both teams were niggling away at each other as bad as the other. Clans no 13 was lucky just before half time - think the referee missed the incident though he realised something had happened. By the way, Clans seemed to get an awful lot of cramp and injuries that they recovered from in the last 5 minutes. Strange one that.


Who taught you to spell muckman?? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 05, 2009, 11:39:51 PM
'bridge game was called off due to a death.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 05, 2009, 11:40:32 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 05, 2009, 11:23:43 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on June 05, 2009, 10:38:59 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 05, 2009, 09:25:39 PM
Clan na Gael 0-10 St Pat's 0-7

Poor enough standard affair. 0-4 a piece at half time - we kicked a lot of wides int he first half that probably cost us. Clans came and won the match with 5 points in the first 10 minutes of the second half because they played the smarter, more direct football, Their no 15 (Marty someone?) was the star of the show and had us in all sorts of bother. We came back from 6 down to get within 3 but never really got the goal chance to level it.

Most of the talk was about the referee. To be fair to Jim Lynch, I didn't think he was as bad as a lot of people said he was. It was a niggly enough match and hard to referee. He definetly got a few decisions wrong though and was too indecisive at time, throwing up the ball too much instead of making a decision. Was sure we should have had a second half penalty as well which would have changed the game.

We're in real trouble now - bottom of the table having lost to 2 of the teams around us in the last week. Need a win on Sunday but wouldn't be at all confident going away to Dromintee.
Marty Lavery indeed. Was a terror throughout, unmarkable tonight. If cullyhanna focused more on actually playing football they maybe wouldn't find themselves in the position they are in. Disagree about the ref, woeful. Poor performance IMO, especially when it came to St Pat's throwing elbows, pulling jerseys and boxin players. Two of our players were felled within the space of ten seconds, one with a bust nose, the other knocked out, by the same cullyhanna player might I add and the ref did f*ck all. Must have been intimidated, a legitimate Clans point disallowed, whilst a wide for Cullyhanna was awarded as a point  ??? Was slow to award blatant free kicks and most of the time just took the easy option and hopped the ball to try and please everyone. Good win for the Clans, now to knock it into them Cross heures on Sunday! :)

Ach give over Fitzroyalty, all the points / wides were awarded correctly, despite the Clans umpire sticking his hand up for a point that had clearly gone 5 yards wide. Don't know what sort of intimidation you're crying about. I didn't see any Clans men knocked out - both teams were niggling away at each other as bad as the other. Clans no 13 was lucky just before half time - think the referee missed the incident though he realised something had happened. By the way, Clans seemed to get an awful lot of cramp and injuries that they recovered from in the last 5 minutes. Strange one that.
Where they f*ck, Clans had a point that was definitely over awarded as a wide.

How convenient you missed blood pouring from Ronan Austin's nose, having been punched whilst on the ground by your no12, from the resulting hop our other midfielder received similar treatment, again from the same cullyhanna man, again having to withdraw. Right in front of the ref, he saw it and did nothing!

Noticed the cramp/injuries myself saan, I'm surprised you don't find it familiar, we learnt from the best (i.e. cullyhanna u21s  ;))

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cillsleibhe on June 05, 2009, 11:42:16 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on June 05, 2009, 09:54:06 PM
Mullaghbawn 1-09
Cullavile 0-06

Good win, we need to be pickin up these points at home....Tell u what, other than OGs and cross its prooving to be a tight enuf league this year,rest are reasonably matched...

How can you put Ogs in this category?  There are five teams within two points of Ogs.  If Killeavy beat them on Sunday then they will lie second in the table.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on June 05, 2009, 11:54:31 PM
Quote from: cillsleibhe on June 05, 2009, 11:42:16 PM

How can you put Ogs in this category?  There are five teams within two points of Ogs.  If Killeavy beat them on Sunday then they will lie second in the table.

With their county players easily, cillsleibhe.....they may struggle with out them i would admit,but so does Dromintee....but wit a full squad they have no fear of relegation, and lets face it wit armagh in the qualifiers club teams will hav their county players for at least the next 3 weeks possibly....they certainly put it up to cross tonite obviously,as close as any of the rest of us came to date....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 05, 2009, 11:59:23 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 05, 2009, 09:25:39 PM
Clan na Gael 0-10 St Pat's 0-7

Poor enough standard affair. 0-4 a piece at half time - we kicked a lot of wides int he first half that probably cost us. Clans came and won the match with 5 points in the first 10 minutes of the second half because they played the smarter, more direct football, Their no 15 (Marty someone?) was the star of the show and had us in all sorts of bother. We came back from 6 down to get within 3 but never really got the goal chance to level it.

Most of the talk was about the referee. To be fair to Jim Lynch, I didn't think he was as bad as a lot of people said he was. It was a niggly enough match and hard to referee. He definetly got a few decisions wrong though and was too indecisive at time, throwing up the ball too much instead of making a decision. Was sure we should have had a second half penalty as well which would have changed the game.

We're in real trouble now - bottom of the table having lost to 2 of the teams around us in the last week. Need a win on Sunday but wouldn't be at all confident going away to Dromintee.


You must be sniffing some of that diseal that you men smuggle up there- the clans won the match as they took you dirty tactics - hit back and played a bit of football- that number 14 was a gyspy hard man hitting lads when they were down.

Be honest the ref was useless - never seen worse and we have seen some bad ones.  I heard after some of you players calling for the manager to go- Mckeever certainly wasnt happy.

Ps the sandwiches were first class as usual ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 06, 2009, 09:07:55 AM
Counted 7 players missing who started v Cross in last year's champ but still, Harps are just getting embarassing at this stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 06, 2009, 10:00:41 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on June 05, 2009, 11:59:23 PM


You must be sniffing some of that diseal that you men smuggle up there- the clans won the match as they took you dirty tactics - hit back and played a bit of football- that number 14 was a gyspy hard man hitting lads when they were down.

Be honest the ref was useless - never seen worse and we have seen some bad ones.  I heard after some of you players calling for the manager to go- Mckeever certainly wasnt happy.

Ps the sandwiches were first class as usual ;D

I think that probably says as much about your views as needs to be said.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 06, 2009, 12:18:23 PM

Two terrible perfrmances in a row from dromintee. hammered by sarsfields at home last week and well beaten by killeavy last night, despite having some of the county men back. new manager certainly isn't an inspiring appoinment and that is well reflected in performances.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on June 06, 2009, 12:41:59 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on June 06, 2009, 12:18:23 PM

Two terrible perfrmances in a row from dromintee. hammered by sarsfields at home last week and well beaten by killeavy last night, despite having some of the county men back. new manager certainly isn't an inspiring appoinment and that is well reflected in performances.

Aghdavoyle, two terrible performances yes, but it is still early days for the new management. He is still very much learning about the team and different players.

As a clubman, you would do well not to criticise management or the appointment in public as it helps nobody concerned with the situation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 06, 2009, 12:48:58 PM
Grow up man - we're all friends here!  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on June 06, 2009, 12:53:42 PM
This doesn't concern you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 06, 2009, 12:55:17 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on June 06, 2009, 12:41:59 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on June 06, 2009, 12:18:23 PM

Two terrible perfrmances in a row from dromintee. hammered by sarsfields at home last week and well beaten by killeavy last night, despite having some of the county men back. new manager certainly isn't an inspiring appoinment and that is well reflected in performances.

Aghdavoyle, two terrible performances yes, but it is still early days for the new management. He is still very much learning about the team and different players.

As a clubman, you would do well not to criticise management or the appointment in public as it helps nobody concerned with the situation.

Kelly is no club man of ours, in fact he's being handsomely paid good club money to run the team into the ground. he was a bad manager before he came to dromintee, terribly referenced but still appointed. he looks to have learned absolutely nothing about the team or players in 6 months.

i'll agree with yo about one thing - talking about it in public certainly doesn't help those who appointed him but were warned not to....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on June 06, 2009, 01:30:04 PM
First of all, only two of the last six managers have been clubmen so your point is irrelvant.

If you are dissatisfied with the teams performances what do you think your little public outburst here is possibly going to achieve? There is not going to be a re-appointment this year, Kelly is manager, so everyone concerned needs to throw their weight in behind the team and work out how we can progress.

Airing those kind of views is incredibly irresponsible, take it up with the men concerned in private.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 06, 2009, 01:38:27 PM

The fact is we previously payed managers who were competent and improved the team nd ore importantly the players. money well spent for a football club. more moey that has ever been spent before to achieve neither of those things is scandalous in the current economic climate.

how do you know there is not going to be a reappointment?

Wouldn't be much point in raising footbal issues in our club. football and the performance of teams on the field would be well down any list of priorities for the powers that be in dromintee.

you seem to be new to this forum. it's commonplace to discuss football here - particularly armagh club football in this thread. if you don't wish to hear others' opinions i suggest you dn't read them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on June 06, 2009, 01:57:36 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on June 06, 2009, 01:38:27 PM

The fact is we previously payed managers who were competent and improved the team nd ore importantly the players. money well spent for a football club. more moey that has ever been spent before to achieve neither of those things is scandalous in the current economic climate.

how do you know there is not going to be a reappointment?

Wouldn't be much point in raising footbal issues in our club. football and the performance of teams on the field would be well down any list of priorities for the powers that be in dromintee.

you seem to be new to this forum. it's commonplace to discuss football here - particularly armagh club football in this thread. if you don't wish to hear others' opinions i suggest you dn't read them.

I am aware of this, my point is that this is an 'in-house' matter and I don't believe you are being constructive towards the club by making your views on this accessible to every other club in Armagh. Further to this, I am not going to converse anymore on the matter.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lothos on June 06, 2009, 01:59:54 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on June 06, 2009, 12:55:17 PM

Kelly is no club man of ours, in fact he's being handsomely paid good club money to run the team into the ground. he was a bad manager before he came to dromintee, terribly referenced but still appointed. he looks to have learned absolutely nothing about the team or players in 6 months.

i'll agree with yo about one thing - talking about it in public certainly doesn't help those who appointed him but were warned not to....

Getting paid? :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 06, 2009, 02:40:45 PM
How many "outside" managers have Dromintee had over the last 10 - 15 years?  I presume McIvor was paid as would John Rafferty.  Who else was paid?  Surely in the same period of time this money would have been better invested into building up the underage structure etc to realistically give the club a basis to challenge once the current group of player( O'Rourkes in particular) are gone?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 06, 2009, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 06, 2009, 02:40:45 PM
How many "outside" managers have Dromintee had over the last 10 - 15 years?  I presume McIvor was paid as would John Rafferty.  Who else was paid?  Surely in the same period of time this money would have been better invested into building up the underage structure etc to realistically give the club a basis to challenge once the current group of player( O'Rourkes in particular) are gone?

Duffin, Rafferty, Fitzpatrick, McIvor, Kelly - the only outside managers I believe we have had, still a big number, but nothing unusual - commonplace in any club, or the majority anyway.

How can you 'invest' in the underage? I'm being genuine, I know trips away etc, but what else can you invest in. All you can do is develop facilites and Dromintee are an excellent club for that.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 06, 2009, 03:06:46 PM
And as for last night's game, well beaten, should have been more if honest.

Micheal O Rourke continues to perform brilliantly if guilty of a couple of misses. In the form of his life yet, somehow, not in the Armagh set up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 06, 2009, 03:10:45 PM
Quote
How can you 'invest' in the underage? I'm being genuine, I know trips away etc, but what else can you invest in. All you can do is develop facilites and Dromintee are an excellent club for that.
Was going to make the same ponit, all you can do is have the facilities and coaches in place but in the end it's all down to the size of the pick you have and there's not much you can do about, apart from the obvious.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 06, 2009, 03:31:03 PM
I haven't been to Dromintee in a few years but how many fields have they got?  Have they got an adequate indoor facility? I presume they run cul camp, but do they ever organise other training weeks or run blitzes?  These are all genuine questions that I do not have the answer to.  At a guess Dromintee have paid an outside manger for 12 years, at say average £15k all in for the year.  So to round that down that is £100k over the period.  I would rather have employed a part time under age coach for that kid of money.  To do that you have to make an assumption that there is someone adequate within the club to do the senior team.  This must not be deemed to be the case
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 06, 2009, 03:39:36 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 06, 2009, 03:31:03 PM
I haven't been to Dromintee in a few years but how many fields have they got?  Have they got an adequate indoor facility? I presume they run cul camp, but do they ever organise other training weeks or run blitzes?  These are all genuine questions that I do not have the answer to.  At a guess Dromintee have paid an outside manger for 12 years, at say average £15k all in for the year.  So to round that down that is £100k over the period.  I would rather have employed a part time under age coach for that kid of money.  To do that you have to make an assumption that there is someone adequate within the club to do the senior team.  This must not be deemed to be the case

Indeed, I know your genuine BC.

Yeah good points, we have two pitches, soon to be three I think. An indoor gym and use of the Jade centre for indoor training. We run the Cul Camp and a lot more emphasis seems to be put on the very young age group (U-8) and (U-10s). In my day we didn't have U-8 and you usually had 20 max at U-10s. I think last year there was something like 60 at U-8 training.

The blitz thing is probably something we haven;t done in ages. We have a very popular memorial blitz, which attracts a lot of teams. But probably we could do a bit more.

The part-time underage coach is an interesting one. Do Cross have one? My guess would be that any coach who is worth paying will not want to be bothered coaching underage teams and would want senior temas. A development coach is what I assume you mean and again its a good idea in principle, executing it with the right person is another issue.

What would a club development officer actually do though?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on June 06, 2009, 07:59:18 PM
ogs threw it away against cross. 1st half was pretty even but cross took their chances to build a five point lead at half time. 2nd half was all ogs, totally dominated cross. cross only had three or four attacks in the 2nd half scoring 1 point. but missed frees from both sean moore and ronan clarke probably cost us in the end. also missed a few chances from play. clarke had a shout for a penalty when he seemed to be pulled down in the area. after all the criticism of referees lately, particularly on this site, rory robinson had a very good game and controlled the game well when it seemed things where about to kick off towards the end of the 1st half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 06, 2009, 09:00:23 PM
Any word on Nudie leaving the Harps after last nights game?

Also heard Lavery got a straight red.
Suppose it depends what it was for to see if he will miss county games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 07, 2009, 03:48:18 PM
Cross beat Clans 1-17 to 0-11.
0-8 each at half time. Clans played well and were only 2 behind with 10 minutes left, when Oisin came on and scored 1-3.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 07, 2009, 04:57:20 PM
St Pat's 0-15 Dromintee 0-10

Good to get an immediate reaction to the change of management. By the sounds of things, Dromintee mightn't be too long behind us.

Played the better football today, Kieran Hoey had a great match and Liam O'Hare was threatening at times. Got on top at midfield which laid the platform for the victory. Marty O'Rourke came on at halftime after not being togged out at all for the first half. Hopefully that'll get us off the bottom, depending on other results. If we can keep that form up, we should get out of trouble.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 07, 2009, 05:08:35 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 07, 2009, 04:57:20 PM
St Pat's 0-15 Dromintee 0-10

Good to get an immediate reaction to the change of management. By the sounds of things, Dromintee mightn't be too long behind us.

Played the better football today, Kieran Hoey had a great match and Liam O'Hare was threatening at times. Got on top at midfield which laid the platform for the victory. Marty O'Rourke came on at halftime after not being togged out at all for the first half. Hopefully that'll get us off the bottom, depending on other results. If we can keep that form up, we should get out of trouble.

Who's the new man in charge? Thought on friday there would be a new manager by sunday and you's would stay up. That would be cullyhanna off the bottom. Any news on todays other game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 07, 2009, 05:32:43 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on June 07, 2009, 05:08:35 PM

Who's the new man in charge? Thought on friday there would be a new manager by sunday and you's would stay up. That would be cullyhanna off the bottom. Any news on todays other game?

Peter Vice (not sure of the spelling of his sirname). He's been training the team for the last few weeks and is going to take over the management.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 07, 2009, 06:41:27 PM
granemore bt wolfe tones 1-13 - 0-13  [ c o, connor 0-6 , j o, neill 0-6 ]
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 07, 2009, 07:47:43 PM
Ballyhegan beaten at home by Newtown by 5 points.
Terrible game, terrible performance especially from the Davitt's.
Young O'Rourke was kept quiet, but Kevin Murray starred kicking most of the visitor's scores. He was deadly from the placed ball.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 07, 2009, 07:53:25 PM
If cullyhanna would get the dirt out of their game and play football they might stand a chance of getting out of trouble. But they think because they are well buolt men that they can bully teams, clearly this didn't work on friday night when we had a very young side teach them a football lesson .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 07, 2009, 08:10:18 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 07, 2009, 07:53:25 PM
If cullyhanna would get the dirt out of their game and play football they might stand a chance of getting out of trouble. But they think because they are well buolt men that they can bully teams, clearly this didn't work on friday night when we had a very young side teach them a football lesson .

Dry your eyes would ya? Was hardly a "footballing lesson" - yis won by 3 points and we kicked enough wides to have won the match comfortably and were denied what should have been a penalty. There was as much dirt and fouling coming from Clans as there was from us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 07, 2009, 08:31:59 PM
Quote from: torres on June 07, 2009, 06:41:27 PM
granemore bt wolfe tones 1-13 - 0-13  [ c o, connor 0-6 , j o, neill 0-6 ]

granemore probably deserved the points.better performance from us and encouaging that we released the ball in early a bit more.  must say granemore umpire was a complete disgrace.  at least 3 of our points he flagged as wide when clearly over and on one other occassion we should have had a 45 man was 3 yards behind the line and they went up and got a point.  how the eejit was allowed on to the end il never no.  ballyhegan next sunday a real 4 pointer.  we are now the only team in armagh bar killean not to have won a game, grim statistic
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 07, 2009, 10:32:03 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 07, 2009, 08:10:18 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 07, 2009, 07:53:25 PM
If cullyhanna would get the dirt out of their game and play football they might stand a chance of getting out of trouble. But they think because they are well buolt men that they can bully teams, clearly this didn't work on friday night when we had a very young side teach them a football lesson .

Dry your eyes would ya? Was hardly a "footballing lesson" - yis won by 3 points and we kicked enough wides to have won the match comfortably and were denied what should have been a penalty. There was as much dirt and fouling coming from Clans as there was from us.

How can you tell me to dry my eyes and come out with this rhubarb :D :D :D :D :D :D Maybe the clans were fouling but we certainly were not kneeing lads in the head whilst on the ground ie Ciaran o Hare. Dirty play is what it is call a spade a spade and quit hiding.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 08, 2009, 08:22:04 AM
ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR W/E SUNDAY 7 JUNE 2009

Monday 1 June
ACL – Div. III
St Peter's lost to Middletown

Thursday 4 June
ACL – Div. II
Tir na nÓg 1-10; Wolfe Tone 0-7

Friday 5 June
ACL – Div. I
Sarsfields 0-8; Carrickcruppen 3-10
St Patrick's 0-8; Clan na Gael 0-10
Pearse Og 0-8; Crossmaglen 1-6
Mullaghbawn 1-9; Culloville 0-6
Killeavy 2-8; Dromintee 0-8
ACL – Div. II
Silverbridge v Whitecross (Off)
Maghery 1-11; Ballymacnab 1-9
Harps 1-8; Granemore 1-14
Clann Eireann 2-10; Madden 3-9
ACL – Div. III
St Paul's 3-10; Shane O'Neill's 1-12
Keady 0-10; Collegeland 3-5
Clonmore 0-13; Lissummon 1-9
Annaghmore 0-9; to An Port Mor 0-12
St Peter's 1-14; Tullysaran 0-4
ACL – Div. IV
Killean 1-4; O'Hanlon's 1-10
Forkhill 1-11; Crossmaglen II 1-10
Dorsey Emmett's 1-10; Derrynoose 1-12
Corrinshego 0-4; Eire Og 0-14
Clady 1-9; Grange 1-9
Mullaghbrack v Phelim Brady's (Off)

Sunday 7 June
ACL – Div. I
Crossmaglen 1-17; Clan na Gael 0-11
Dromintee 0-10; St Patrick's 0-15
Killeavy 0-17; Pearse Og 1-13
ACL – Div. II
Wolfe Tone 0-13; Granemore 1-13
Whitecross 3-11; Tir na nÓg 0-10
Ballyhegan 0-7; St Michael's 0-11
ACL – Div. III
Middletown 1-9; Belleek 0-11
An Port Mor v Clonmore (Off)
ACL – Div. IV
Dorsey Emmett's 2-12; Phelim Brady's 0-3
Eire Og 1-14; Crossmaglen II 2-10
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on June 08, 2009, 09:19:11 AM
Went to both ogs games over the weekend. At home to cross they should have won the game with a few points to spare to be honest. i think any cross ones on this site will agree. counted at least 8 frees in the second half missed from 30 metres. Cross had the upper hand in the first half and went in 5 points up. the second half was totally different with the majority of the game being played in cross's half. very poor shooting cost them.

Ogs v killeavy another tight game which the ogs came out on the wrong side of. thought they were poor enough yesterday not being able to get going. a draw would have probably been a fair result but killeavy held out for the win. that's 3 defeats by 1point in a row for the ogs which now puts them under a bit of pressure. they are still missing a number of players and hopefully they will be back for next week
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cillsleibhe on June 08, 2009, 11:02:08 AM
Quote from: Real1995 on June 05, 2009, 11:54:31 PM
Quote from: cillsleibhe on June 05, 2009, 11:42:16 PM

How can you put Ogs in this category?  There are five teams within two points of Ogs.  If Killeavy beat them on Sunday then they will lie second in the table.

With their county players easily, cillsleibhe.....they may struggle with out them i would admit,but so does Dromintee....but wit a full squad they have no fear of relegation, and lets face it wit armagh in the qualifiers club teams will hav their county players for at least the next 3 weeks possibly....they certainly put it up to cross tonite obviously,as close as any of the rest of us came to date....

As predicted - Killeavy now lie second in the table after an excellent performance with a weakened side against the Ogs.  Hard to believe this was the same side that surrendered to Cross only a couple of weeks back. 

A great game yesterday with the lead changing hands 5 or 6 times.  The Ogs missed a couple of late chances and were unlucky not to come away with a draw for their efforts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 08, 2009, 12:11:09 PM
Any updated tables lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 08, 2009, 01:30:46 PM
Took in the Rangers v Clans game yesterday which coupled with a feed in Ma Kearneys made my day a very pleasant one. Ive been coming to Clans Cross games for years and yesterdays was as entertaining as any. Several weeks ago some notable clans ones wouldnt have gave their team a prayer yesterday but they had Cross on the ropes up unitll the last 10. Silly mistakes coupled with Cross's ruthlesness ensured a Rangers victory but dont be fooled by the scoreline -this game was in the melting pot with minutes remaining. Surely its a good sign for the Clans who looked very young but still competed with a very strong Cross team. Fair play to both sets of players! :) :) :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 08, 2009, 02:26:41 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 08, 2009, 01:30:46 PM
Took in the Rangers v Clans game yesterday which coupled with a feed in Ma Kearneys made my day a very pleasant one. Ive been coming to Clans Cross games for years and yesterdays was as entertaining as any. Several weeks ago some notable clans ones wouldnt have gave their team a prayer yesterday but they had Cross on the ropes up unitll the last 10. Silly mistakes coupled with Cross's ruthlesness ensured a Rangers victory but dont be fooled by the scoreline -this game was in the melting pot with minutes remaining. Surely its a good sign for the Clans who looked very young but still competed with a very strong Cross team. Fair play to both sets of players! :) :) :)

What sort of sides had both teams out?  Were our boys strong, I see Oisin didn't start but were there any other absentees?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 08, 2009, 02:36:39 PM
It was a very strong Cross team only noticable absentees were McKenna and Stephen Kearnan (although I dont think he starts anyway) also Hearty wasnt in nets. The 3 Kearnans, McEntees, Francie, JD, etc were all playing and Oisin came on and scored 1-3 in last 10. To be fair though Clans ones will prob be kicking themselves cause they gave away possession stupidly that led to the goal and several of the late points. All in all though it was a great game and with 10 to go could have went ether way.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: captain c mck on June 08, 2009, 03:24:09 PM
Quote from: bigfrank on June 02, 2009, 10:00:34 PM
Anyone confirm that Johnny Murtagh from Cross is for the states next week to play ball???
yea murtagh has gone over to the states too play football !!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 08, 2009, 06:42:30 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 07, 2009, 08:31:59 PM
Quote from: torres on June 07, 2009, 06:41:27 PM
granemore bt wolfe tones 1-13 - 0-13  [ c o, connor 0-6 , j o, neill 0-6 ]

granemore probably deserved the points.better performance from us and encouaging that we released the ball in early a bit more.  must say granemore umpire was a complete disgrace.  at least 3 of our points he flagged as wide when clearly over and on one other occassion we should have had a 45 man was 3 yards behind the line and they went up and got a point.  how the eejit was allowed on to the end il never no.  ballyhegan next sunday a real 4 pointer.  we are now the only team in armagh bar killean not to have won a game, grim statistic

i agree our umpire was a bit of an eejit , but their was no way 3 pts were scored that were flagged wide , granemore also had a gripe with the tones umpire who came over to the oppisite post to flag a score wide , and one that clearly curled in which he again flagged wide and he too gave a wide which should have been a 45 , i,d say they were both eejits . the tones gave a very encouraging performance and a lot of our support were  surprised they are struggling on that performance , as for granemore i felt they were a bit flat after putting in such an energy sapping performance 2 nights earlier against the harps ,we also tried a young lad in full back [ which did,nt work ] due to our regular full back going to the states .and i felt the tones at least deserved a draw .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 08, 2009, 10:53:31 PM
DIVISION: 1 PLD W D L PTS
Crossmaglen     8 8 0 0 16
Killeavy            8 5 0 3 10
Pearse Og        8 4 1 3 9
Dromintee        8 4 0 4 8
Carrickcruppin   8 3 1 4 7
Cullaville           8 3 1 4 7
Mullabawn        8 3 1 4 7
St.Patricks        8 3 0 5 6
Clan na Gael      8 2 1 5 5
Sarsfields          8 2 1 5 5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 09, 2009, 08:30:59 AM
ARMAGH ACL TABLE AS AT SUNDAY 7 JUNE

Div. I
         P   W   D   L   Pts
Crossmaglen      8   8   0   0   16   
Killeavy      8   5   0   3   10
Pearse Og      8   4   1   3   9
Dromintee      8   4   0   4   8
Carrickcruppen   8   3   1   4   7
Culloville      8   3   1   4   7
Mullaghbawn      8   3   1   4   7
St Patrick's      8   3   0   5   6
Clan na Gael      8   2   1   5   5
Sarsfields      8   2   1   5   5

Div. II
         P   W   D   L   Pts
Maghery      8   8   0   0   16
Whitecross      7   6   0   1   12
Granemore      8   6   0   2   12
Ballymacnab      8   5   1   2   11
Clann Eireann      8   3   1   4   7
Harps         8   3   1   4   7
Madden      8   3   1   4   7
Tir na nÓg      8   3   1   4   7
Silverbridge      7   2   1   4   5
Wolfe Tone      8   0   4   4   4
Ballyhegan      8   1   1   6   3
St Michael's      8   1   1   6   3

Div. III
         P   W   D   L   Pts
St Peter's      9   7   0   2   14
Keady         7   6   0   1   12
St Paul's      9   6   0   3   12
Middletown      7   4   0   3   8
Clonmore      8   4   0   4   8
Tullysaran      7   3   1   3   7
Belleek      7   3   0   4   6
Annaghmore      8   3   0   5   6
An Port Mor      6   2   1   3   5
Collegeland      7   2   0   5   4
Shane O'Neill's   7   2   0   5   4
Lissummon      8   2   0   6   4
         
Div. IV
         P   W   D   L   Pts
Forkhill      8   8   0   0   16
Eire Og      8   7   0   1   14
Crossmaglen II   8   6   0   2   12
Grange         8   5   1   2   11
Corrinshego      8   5   0   3   10
Dorsey Emmett's   8   4   0   4   8
Clady         8   2   2   4   6
Derrynoose      8   2   2   4   6
Mullaghbrack      7   2   0   5   4
O'Hanlon's      8   2   0   6   4
Phelim Brady's   7   1   1   5   3
Killean         8   0   0   8   0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 09, 2009, 10:12:05 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 07, 2009, 04:57:20 PM
St Pat's 0-15 Dromintee 0-10

Good to get an immediate reaction to the change of management. By the sounds of things, Dromintee mightn't be too long behind us.

Played the better football today, Kieran Hoey had a great match and Liam O'Hare was threatening at times. Got on top at midfield which laid the platform for the victory. Marty O'Rourke came on at halftime after not being togged out at all for the first half. Hopefully that'll get us off the bottom, depending on other results. If we can keep that form up, we should get out of trouble.

Very poor weekend for dromintee. team is very flat and listless. the lads will have to "do a cullyhanna" by the looks of things.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 09, 2009, 11:46:59 AM
What's the fixtures for the coming weekend lads????????? never got the Irish news this morn.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 09, 2009, 11:48:51 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 09, 2009, 11:46:59 AM
What's the fixtures for the coming weekend lads????????? never got the Irish news this morn.

ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 14 JUNE 2009

Wednesday 10 June
ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Silverbridge v Whitecross (Patrick Duffy)
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
Keady v Tullysaran (Oliver Hearty)
ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Mullaghbrack v Phelim Brady's (Ronan Quigley)

Friday 12 June
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
Belleek v An Port Mor (Seamus O'Neill)

Sunday 14 June
ACL – Div. I (2.00)
Clan na Gael v Sarsfields (Seamus O'Neill)
Crossmaglen v Carrickcruppen (Paul Boylan)
Culloville v St Patrick's (Ger Devlin)
Dromintee v Pearse Og (Mickey Leonard)
Killeavy v Mullaghbawn (Jim Burns)
ACL – Div. II (2.00)
Whitecross v Ballymacnab (Jim Slevin)
Silverbridge v Granemore (Patrick Duffy)
Maghery v Madden (Barney Henry)
Harps v St Michael's (Kevin McNeice)
Clann Eireann v Tir na nÓg (Tony O'Hare)
Ballyhegan v Wolfe Tone (Kevin Murtagh)
ACL – Div. III (2.00)
Shane O'Neill's v Belleek (Paul Rath)
St Paul's v Collegeland (Gary Smith)
Middletown v Lissummon (Tony Watters)
Keady v An Port Mor (Noel Martin)
Clonmore v St Peter's (Ronan Quigley)
Annaghmore v Tullysaran (Rory Robinson)
ACL – Div. IV (2.00)
O'Hanlon's v Crossmaglen II (Kevin Gallogly)
Killean v Derrynoose (Stephen Murray)
Forkhill v Eire Og (Jimmy McKee)
Dorsey Emmett's v Grange (Damian McConville)
Corrinshego v Mullaghbrack (Stephen McKinley)
Clady v Phelim Brady's (Vincent O'Neill)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 09, 2009, 01:50:02 PM
Div1 turning into a bit of a lottery, most teams capable of beating each other, its anyones guess who goes down now. hearing some managers getting the chop already  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 09, 2009, 01:53:53 PM

cullyhanna dispensed with their man at the weekend
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 09, 2009, 09:35:36 PM
Just found there that there are new rules in place regarding substitutions. Took in the Cuchulianns match against Keady. Keady player got injured with a couple of minutes to go and the ref Paul Boylan from Derrynoose asked the Keady team to make a sub. Keady had used all their subs and when it was protested against he said 'their my rules'. Lol Hilarious stuff. As a side issue, Cuchulianns won by about 5 points scoring three goals in the last ten minutes. Enjoyable match and although there a few players missing on both sides I just thought I'd share that funny story with those who give out about refs on this board ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on June 10, 2009, 11:48:17 AM

six points in a row dropped by ogs and dromintee. not the stuff of championship contenders
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on June 10, 2009, 12:41:36 PM
heard Nudie Hughes has been made redundant.

Any truth or outcome?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Abble on June 10, 2009, 01:17:30 PM
Quote from: ogshead on June 09, 2009, 09:35:36 PM
Just found there that there are new rules in place regarding substitutions. Took in the Cuchulianns match against Keady. Keady player got injured with a couple of minutes to go and the ref Paul Boylan from Derrynoose asked the Keady team to make a sub. Keady had used all their subs and when it was protested against he said 'their my rules'. Lol Hilarious stuff. As a side issue, Cuchulianns won by about 5 points scoring three goals in the last ten minutes. Enjoyable match and although there a few players missing on both sides I just thought I'd share that funny story with those who give out about refs on this board ;D

comical! i don't mind a bit of common sense from refs when they do their own thing....might've been a different story though if it had been a 1 pt game, but he could maybe see you's had the game won at that stage. Be a brave ref to shout over 'they're my rules' in dyin minutes of a tight c'ship encounter....fairplay
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lothos on June 10, 2009, 01:46:20 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on June 10, 2009, 12:41:36 PM
heard Nudie Hughes has been made redundant.

Any truth or outcome?

I heard there was a players meeting last night about finding a new manager.  Can any of the Harps posters enlighten us on this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on June 10, 2009, 01:49:47 PM
first ive heard,nudie took training last night,we arent the only club with problems,heard ogs having lost three in a won there was words between management and players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on June 10, 2009, 01:52:06 PM
 :o three in a row in div 1 is understandable.

:o4 in a row in div.2 for a team that ran cross to a goal last year is baffling!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on June 10, 2009, 01:55:28 PM
roothemout - stop spreading stupid rumours
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 10, 2009, 01:57:58 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on June 10, 2009, 01:55:28 PM
roothemout - stop spreading stupid rumours

All lies.

roothemout stop trying to shift the focus from your own problems.

we haven't been getting hammered in our games.  3 single point defeats.  2 against the teams in 1st and 2nd in the league and one against the clans when we were severely under strength.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 10, 2009, 02:04:16 PM
What did Lavery get the straight red for at the weekend?
Will it have any bearing on the county?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on June 10, 2009, 02:43:38 PM
Quote from: The GAA on June 10, 2009, 11:48:17 AM

six points in a row dropped by ogs and dromintee. not the stuff of championship contenders

I wouldnt read too much into the league to be honest. from what i seen of the ogs against cross i have no doubt that they can beat them come championship. In my opinion Dromintee and the Ogs are the only real contenders to cross's title. Both sides have had a good number of players missing from the start of the league but they will be there or thereabouts come the business end of the championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 10, 2009, 03:47:36 PM
Quote from: davo on June 10, 2009, 02:43:38 PM
Quote from: The GAA on June 10, 2009, 11:48:17 AM

six points in a row dropped by ogs and dromintee. not the stuff of championship contenders

I wouldnt read too much into the league to be honest. from what i seen of the ogs against cross i have no doubt that they can beat them come championship. In my opinion Dromintee and the Ogs are the only real contenders to cross's title. Both sides have had a good number of players missing from the start of the league but they will be there or thereabouts come the business end of the championship

cant see anyone beating cross, ogs to make the best go of it dromintee going backwards imo players getting older the departure of dyas etc. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 10, 2009, 03:52:00 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on June 10, 2009, 01:52:06 PM
:o three in a row in div 1 is understandable.

:o4 in a row in div.2 for a team that ran cross to a goal last year is baffling!!!
harps should be doing alot better than they are.  dont know the ins and outs but for a team that ran cross so close last year to be languishing in mid table in div 2 could hardly be deemed as acceptable??  is there any breakthrough of minors from last year?  i see some of their teamsheets on their website and they seem to be pretty strong obv charlie big miss.  good players dont always make good managers, as i can say about miceal magill! ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 10, 2009, 04:53:07 PM
Well thats whats ya's get for paying men to come in and think they're gonna turn ya's into all-ireland champions. The tones should have learned their lesson from previous years. Most money men don't give a f**k about your club, they're only there for the dollars.

I know how hard it is to get one of your own club men to take the job (without having to pay them) but you're own most times works out to be the best......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 10, 2009, 05:13:44 PM
Quote from: Lothos on June 10, 2009, 01:46:20 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on June 10, 2009, 12:41:36 PM
heard Nudie Hughes has been made redundant.

Any truth or outcome?

I heard there was a players meeting last night about finding a new manager.  Can any of the Harps posters enlighten us on this?

Complete Manure.... END OF DISCUSSION!!!

Lothos where are you getting your information? There was no players meeting lastnight, just training as usual.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 10, 2009, 06:21:54 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 10, 2009, 04:53:07 PM
Well thats whats ya's get for paying men to come in and think they're gonna turn ya's into all-ireland champions. The tones should have learned their lesson from previous years. Most money men don't give a f**k about your club, they're only there for the dollars.

I know how hard it is to get one of your own club men to take the job (without having to pay them) but you're own most times works out to be the best......

what lesson is this?

men from the club have taken it before and not got the respect they deserve.  this may change now as some of the bigger egos have now left/retired and we have a young team.

not all clubs have someone that the whole board and club will bow down to...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 10, 2009, 09:09:19 PM
Quote from: rootthemout on June 10, 2009, 01:49:47 PM
first ive heard,nudie took training last night,we arent the only club with problems,heard ogs having lost three in a won there was words between management and players.

Quite sad to our neighbours in the situation they're in at the minute and I myself haven't mentioned anything about it on this board. You can't go comparing the Ogs situation to the Harps'. It's a no brainer. Harps got stuffed Friday night by Granemore and the Ogs got beat by one point by Cross. I think the Ogs are ticking along nicely and wouldn't read too much into the results. The Harps on the other hand look to be in a spot of trouble. They might still pull a good championship out of the bag like they did last year but they shouldn't be getting tanked in div 2. I heard some Harps people saying last year that they'd go straight back up winning all they're games, maybe they underestimated the division. Also, I don't think any Ogs people have said anything about the Harps situation on this board. I'd worry about your own teams problems roothemout
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 10, 2009, 09:48:13 PM
Quote from: ogshead on June 10, 2009, 09:09:19 PM
Quote from: rootthemout on June 10, 2009, 01:49:47 PM
first ive heard,nudie took training last night,we arent the only club with problems,heard ogs having lost three in a won there was words between management and players.

Quite sad to our neighbours in the situation they're in at the minute and I myself haven't mentioned anything about it on this board. You can't go comparing the Ogs situation to the Harps'. It's a no brainer. Harps got stuffed Friday night by Granemore and the Ogs got beat by one point by Cross. I think the Ogs are ticking along nicely and wouldn't read too much into the results. The Harps on the other hand look to be in a spot of trouble. They might still pull a good championship out of the bag like they did last year but they shouldn't be getting tanked in div 2. I heard some Harps people saying last year that they'd go straight back up winning all they're games, maybe they underestimated the division. Also, I don't think any Ogs people have said anything about the Harps situation on this board. I'd worry about your own teams problems roothemout

exactly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 11, 2009, 07:55:27 AM
Everyone's getting a bit touchy on this thread lately... a bit of rumour & slagging is what we're missing!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on June 11, 2009, 09:11:42 AM
cullyhanna beat cross last nite in s.armagh B champ
anyone know who won other semi between cruppen and dromintee?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 11, 2009, 09:18:17 AM
Quote from: flog the lot on June 11, 2009, 09:11:42 AM
cullyhanna beat cross last nite in s.armagh B champ
anyone know who won other semi between cruppen and dromintee?

Dromintee won by eight. Cruppen didn;t score in the second half which was strange because they were by far the better side in the opening half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 11, 2009, 09:21:45 AM
anyone know who won north aremagh semi between maghery and tirnanog?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 11, 2009, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 11, 2009, 09:21:45 AM
anyone know who won north aremagh semi between maghery and tirnanog?

Portydown won by 1pt.

Clans v Porty in final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: amigo on June 11, 2009, 09:46:16 AM
who is the new manager of Cullyhanna??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 11, 2009, 10:38:22 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 11, 2009, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 11, 2009, 09:21:45 AM
anyone know who won north aremagh semi between maghery and tirnanog?

Portydown won by 1pt.

Clans v Porty in final
are u as excited as i am ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on June 11, 2009, 10:42:55 AM
ogs lads sorry if i upset a few of you but you know what armaghs like for rumours,obviously not true ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 11, 2009, 11:28:33 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on June 11, 2009, 10:38:22 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 11, 2009, 09:42:08 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 11, 2009, 09:21:45 AM
anyone know who won north aremagh semi between maghery and tirnanog?

Portydown won by 1pt.

Clans v Porty in final
are u as excited as i am ;D

Correct saan ;) ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Edgeofthesquare on June 11, 2009, 11:49:57 AM
Div 2
Silverbridge 0-06 Whitecross 1-11

Some sloppy play from both sides, not helped by a ref who wasn't able to deal with a fast paced game. u12 may suit him better!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on June 11, 2009, 12:47:55 PM
Whitecross have had a god run of results lately

Have they any county players or potential county players on their team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on June 11, 2009, 12:59:57 PM
Thought this might interest some of you.



The Ulster Camogie Council are making a massive push ahead of their Ulster Finals.  Can you support them by publisizing their finals in all Clubs, Club and County Websites and all local Media (Radio and Newspapers)

Please Find attached the Final Poster and the Children's (U14) Free Ticket.



ULSTER CAMOGIE CHAMPIONSHIP FINALS 2009

PAIRC ESLER, NEWRY
SATURDAY 4th JULY
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Ulster Camogie: Press Release – By. Niamh Archibald (Ulster Camogie PRO)



Ulster Camogie hosted the 2009 Provincial Championship Finals launch on Friday evening at the finals venue at Pairc Esler Newry.  Mayor of Newry and Mourne District Colman Burns was present to help launch the Ulster Finals.

Mayor Burns said: "Ulster Council should be commended for their dedication to making the Ulster Final a festival of camogie which could be enjoyed by all the family.

"The hard-work that has gone in by all those involved should be commended, this will be the best final Ulster Camogie has witnessed. The teams, players and officials are lucky to be taking part in such a momentous occasion.

Catherine O'Hara Chairperson of Ulster Camogie said: "The GAA has to be congratulated for giving us the opportunity to create what we hope will be the finest Ulster Final. They have worked tirelessly to ensure that we have a pitch and date which we can build around. Danny Murphy and Tom Daly have to be thanked for giving us this unique opportunity, we hope with their continued support and help to make the Ulster Final an annual event which will be placed in every GAA calendar.

"It's now up to us, as an association, in a Province with a unique history to get behind our own sport and be visibly seen supporting the game we are so proud to be part of. It's about respecting  ourselves first.

On behalf of the Council Iwould like to wish all the finalists and officials  the best of luck. Pairc Esler on 4th July is where we should all be.

Two fabulous finals and the buzz that goes hand in hand with finals day is one not to be missed."

Also present at the Launch was Ulster Secretary Danny Murphy . The Provincial GAA Director spoke of the need to support Camogie. Danny Murphy stated that the time has come for Camogie to receive the respect and recognition it deserved saying: "for some time now the Camogie Association has been saying that it should get more respect. I'm a big believer that respect is not given but earned and you only have to look at what Ulster Camogie is trying to achieve with this Final to know that they are worthy of our respect."

The Ulster Finals will take place on the 4th July, with Tyrone facing Monaghan in the Junior Final, whilst neighbours Derry and Antrim will battle it out for the Senior title.

(For all the latest updates log onto www.ulstercamogie.ie )

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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 11, 2009, 01:32:52 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on June 11, 2009, 12:47:55 PM
Whitecross have had a god run of results lately

Have they any county players or potential county players on their team

Mark Shields was deadly versus Ballyhegan - I think he scored 5 from play, from wing back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 11, 2009, 04:35:47 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on June 11, 2009, 01:32:52 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on June 11, 2009, 12:47:55 PM
Whitecross have had a god run of results lately

Have they any county players or potential county players on their team

Mark Shields was deadly versus Ballyhegan - I think he scored 5 from play, from wing back.
Did something similar v Harps. I notice that Whitecross have very good reports in the locals but they dont credit the scores to the correct people, Shields and the other WHB are hardly ever mentioned in their scoring - fargin sneaky bastiches.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on June 11, 2009, 07:18:57 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 11:06:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 10:49:43 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 10:45:24 PM
QuoteWere you there Pints?
What does that matter?

QuoteThis is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.
I'm aware of that. 

I find it strange that you can say he is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill if you weren't there and that your player did nothing wrong.The referee obviously disagrees so you are simply making assumptions on one word against another.
I never said the player did nothing wrong, in fact Ive said the opposite. 
The player is ultimately responsible because you cannot put your hands on the referee and if you do you leave yourself open to a long ban. That however will not stop me criticising the referee for making the most out of it, I know he's making the most out of it because everyone I've spoke to who was at the game said it a one push (at most) and they've no reason to lie. 
Two posters on this board have said similar but all you can come on and say is "where you there". That's just cheap, silly nonsense I thought you were a better poster than that.   
bridge player got 58 weeks..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2009, 07:20:41 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on June 11, 2009, 07:18:57 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 11:06:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 10:49:43 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 10:45:24 PM
QuoteWere you there Pints?
What does that matter?

QuoteThis is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.
I'm aware of that. 

I find it strange that you can say he is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill if you weren't there and that your player did nothing wrong.The referee obviously disagrees so you are simply making assumptions on one word against another.
I never said the player did nothing wrong, in fact Ive said the opposite. 
The player is ultimately responsible because you cannot put your hands on the referee and if you do you leave yourself open to a long ban. That however will not stop me criticising the referee for making the most out of it, I know he's making the most out of it because everyone I've spoke to who was at the game said it a one push (at most) and they've no reason to lie. 
Two posters on this board have said similar but all you can come on and say is "where you there". That's just cheap, silly nonsense I thought you were a better poster than that.   
bridge player got 58 weeks..

and the rest 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on June 11, 2009, 07:27:40 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2009, 07:20:41 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on June 11, 2009, 07:18:57 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 11:06:11 PM
Quote from: corn02 on May 27, 2009, 10:49:43 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 27, 2009, 10:45:24 PM
QuoteWere you there Pints?
What does that matter?

QuoteThis is not the first time someone has been accused of striking a ref for nothing more than a punch.
I'm aware of that. 

I find it strange that you can say he is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill if you weren't there and that your player did nothing wrong.The referee obviously disagrees so you are simply making assumptions on one word against another.
I never said the player did nothing wrong, in fact Ive said the opposite. 
The player is ultimately responsible because you cannot put your hands on the referee and if you do you leave yourself open to a long ban. That however will not stop me criticising the referee for making the most out of it, I know he's making the most out of it because everyone I've spoke to who was at the game said it a one push (at most) and they've no reason to lie. 
Two posters on this board have said similar but all you can come on and say is "where you there". That's just cheap, silly nonsense I thought you were a better poster than that.   
bridge player got 58 weeks..

and the rest 
sorry pints just heard he got 58 weeks plus bridge have to play next three home matchs away and 400 pound fine a disgrace
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2009, 07:35:39 PM
Quotesorry pints just heard he got 58 weeks plus bridge have to play next three home matchs away and 400 pound fine a disgrace
You can say that again, absolutely no justification for punishing the club. 
The suspension is very harsh considering what happened but you could understand it more than what the club got. 

For a poke in the belly, f**king hell  ::)

all because some bollocks a ref wants to make a name for himself  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on June 11, 2009, 08:34:56 PM
Pints,

Why would a ref want to make a name for himself? Where's thar gonna get him.

Can you define a "poke in the belly"?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2009, 09:03:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on June 11, 2009, 08:34:56 PM
Pints,

Why would a ref want to make a name for himself? Where's thar gonna get him.

Can you define a "poke in the belly"?
well I dont know orior, why would a ref make all he could out of a poke in the belly or push (at the very most) and report being struck?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on June 11, 2009, 10:33:37 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2009, 09:03:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on June 11, 2009, 08:34:56 PM
Pints,

Why would a ref want to make a name for himself? Where's thar gonna get him.

Can you define a "poke in the belly"?
well I dont know orior, why would a ref make all he could out of a poke in the belly or push (at the very most) and report being struck?

The only things I know about incident is what I've read here. But surely this sort of thing can be avoided by not having any physical contact with the ref?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2009, 11:12:15 PM
Quote from: Orior on June 11, 2009, 10:33:37 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2009, 09:03:12 PM
Quote from: Orior on June 11, 2009, 08:34:56 PM
Pints,

Why would a ref want to make a name for himself? Where's thar gonna get him.

Can you define a "poke in the belly"?
well I dont know orior, why would a ref make all he could out of a poke in the belly or push (at the very most) and report being struck?

The only things I know about incident is what I've read here. But surely this sort of thing can be avoided by not having any physical contact with the ref?

Agree complately orior, our play is ultimately responsible for leaving himself open to this but that doesnt mean we can't criticise the punishment handed down, particularly on the club!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on June 12, 2009, 07:15:14 AM
fair play this might make players think twice about making any physical contact with a referee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 12, 2009, 08:14:30 AM
Quote from: armaghtrue on June 12, 2009, 07:15:14 AM
fair play this might make players think twice about making any physical contact with a referee
true, because some refs are c***ts and will try and make something out of nothing. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 12, 2009, 08:51:47 AM

Pints you've lost the run of yourself again!

Yes they are a strange species, but - No refs = no football!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 12, 2009, 12:50:54 PM
While I agree with most of whats being said and dont condone the players behaviour I cant help but think that refs nowadays know that no refs = no football and as a result are too powerful. They dont seem to be accountable to anyone and in many respects are a law unto themselves. I see regularly each year refs making up rules and deciding the outcome of games themselves. Surely the two teams involved should decide the outcome of a game. We are in a dangerous situation where if refs get criticised by board officials they simply threaten to strike. In my opinion most of them dont have a clue and have too much control and power. Something has to be done to ensure that there is an even playing field for each team on a sunday afternoon. At the minute players have no idea during a game which rules are going to be allowed and which are going to be punished. The state of our officiating at the minute is absolutely ludicrous to say the very least!  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on June 12, 2009, 01:36:59 PM
Club football in Armagh is littered with inconsistency.
A couple of weeks ago we (silverbridge) played tones on a friday night at home, out captain went up for the toss and the usual chat with the ref about what he would be strict on, ref informed him any chat back he wouldn take the ball up 10 yards but 20 or 30 or whatever he deemed justifiable for the mouthing to him and if he heard anything disapprovals for the line he would do the same and if the criticisms on him were considered serious enough he would book people, as expected the referee was fussy enough blowing for alot of what could be let go.
Wednesday past there we had a referee for whitecross game think his message was the same for no chat back but then during the game he let us cut the absoloute shite out of each other for the hour,  the game started as a great hard hitting club match until the point were the referee began to lose control of the game and it turned into a dirty affair for most of the second half, on 3/4 occasions the game came very close to boiling over into a brawl. 
Theres absoloutly no consistency in it. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 12, 2009, 07:20:19 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 12, 2009, 12:50:54 PM
While I agree with most of whats being said and dont condone the players behaviour I cant help but think that refs nowadays know that no refs = no football and as a result are too powerful. They dont seem to be accountable to anyone and in many respects are a law unto themselves. I see regularly each year refs making up rules and deciding the outcome of games themselves. Surely the two teams involved should decide the outcome of a game. We are in a dangerous situation where if refs get criticised by board officials they simply threaten to strike. In my opinion most of them dont have a clue and have too much control and power. Something has to be done to ensure that there is an even playing field for each team on a sunday afternoon. At the minute players have no idea during a game which rules are going to be allowed and which are going to be punished. The state of our officiating at the minute is absolutely ludicrous to say the very least!  >:( >:( >:(
Spot on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 13, 2009, 11:23:35 AM
DEJA VU SAAN ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 13, 2009, 06:08:35 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2009, 07:35:39 PM
Quotesorry pints just heard he got 58 weeks plus bridge have to play next three home matchs away and 400 pound fine a disgrace
You can say that again, absolutely no justification for punishing the club. 
The suspension is very harsh considering what happened but you could understand it more than what the club got. 

For a poke in the belly, f**king hell  ::)

all because some bollocks a ref wants to make a name for himself  ::)

If you touch a referee, you'll get 2 years and you deserve it. Don't really agree with punishing other innocent lads in a club though. We got thrown out of a league at minor level over a spectator hitting a ref - always really annoyed me - ruined my last year of football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on June 14, 2009, 01:19:46 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 13, 2009, 06:08:35 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 11, 2009, 07:35:39 PM
Quotesorry pints just heard he got 58 weeks plus bridge have to play next three home matchs away and 400 pound fine a disgrace
You can say that again, absolutely no justification for punishing the club. 
The suspension is very harsh considering what happened but you could understand it more than what the club got. 

For a poke in the belly, f**king hell  ::)

all because some bollocks a ref wants to make a name for himself  ::)

If you touch a referee, you'll get 2 years and you deserve it. Don't really agree with punishing other innocent lads in a club though. We got thrown out of a league at minor level over a spectator hitting a ref - always really annoyed me - ruined my last year of football.
listen boys its not about touchin the ref its wats in the refs report tats pissin  very one in the club off..ref has the bridge man down for strikin with the closed fist to his face... if that was the case the ref should have called the game off? but seein as there was not much to it he played on.this ref has a bit of a head bout himself..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 14, 2009, 04:04:58 PM
Clans 0-11 Sarsfields 0-07. Clans on top from the start and should really have won by more. Ref wasn't too bad in testing conditions. Thunderbolts and lightning very very frightening. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 14, 2009, 04:07:31 PM
GRANEMORE BEAT SILVERBRIDGE   2-11 - 0-6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 14, 2009, 04:09:47 PM
tones beat ballyhegan by bout 8 points.  ballyhegan will be in div 3 next year i would imagine.  niall lennon didnt give paddy mckeever a kick.john toal scored around 1-5.  johnny mckeever should havce got the line 4 stamping onone of our players.dirty act
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 14, 2009, 04:11:11 PM
Quote from: torres on June 14, 2009, 04:07:31 PM
GRANEMORE BEAT SILVERBRIDGE   2-11 - 0-6
was just going to post that, heard it was 2-10 though, not that it matters.
sigh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 14, 2009, 04:24:11 PM
St Pat's 0-14 Culloville 1-8

Poor enough opening quarter but the game improved as it went on. We led for pretty much the whole matcha nd thought we were definitely the better side. Gave a poor goal away in the second half though but showed good character to pull away again. Best for Cullyhanna were Barry McConville who scored 0-4 from play and Eugene Casey. Kieran Hoey had a good match as well.

Looked reasonably impressive today and thankfully we're that bit further away from the bottom.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on June 14, 2009, 06:02:58 PM
harps beat newtown,poor game but the result is all that matters for us at this stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 14, 2009, 06:08:14 PM
Cross beat Cruppen easily
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 14, 2009, 07:21:17 PM
Good win for Harps, think it ended 0-13 to 1-5.  Plenty of fight shown by the players, bossed MF and everything good sprang form there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 14, 2009, 07:27:49 PM
Any other results.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 14, 2009, 08:36:24 PM
what was score in cross game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 14, 2009, 08:37:21 PM
by the way Mullaghbawn beat Killeavy by 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 14, 2009, 09:01:25 PM
Cross 2-23 Cruppen 1-5.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on June 14, 2009, 09:17:04 PM
Dromintee beat Ogs by 3 points i am reliably informed....close league as said b4,any updated tables?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 14, 2009, 10:46:14 PM
Div. I
          P   W   D   L   Pts
Crossmaglen        9   9   0   0   18   
Dromintee        9   5   0   4   10
Killeavy        9   5   0   4   10
Mullaghbawn        9   4   1   4     9
Pearse Og        9   4   1   4     9
St Patrick's        9   4   0   5     8
Carrickcruppen     9   3   1   5     7
Culloville        9   3   1   5     7
Clan na Gael        9   3   1   5     7
Sarsfields        9   2   1   6     5

Div. II
          P   W   D   L   Pts
Maghery        8   8   0   0   16
Whitecross        8   7   0   1   14
Granemore        9   7   0   2   14
Ballymacnab        8   5   1   2   11
Clann Eireann        9   4   1   4     9
Harps           9   4   1   4     9
Madden        8   3   1   4     7
Tir na nÓg        9   3   1   5     7
Wolfe Tone        9   1   4   4     6
Silverbridge        9   2   1   6     5
Ballyhegan        9   1   1   7     3
St Michael's        9   1   1   7     3

Div. III
          P   W   D   L   Pts
Keady           9   8   0   1   16
St Peter's        9   7   0   2   14
St Paul's      10   7   0   3   14
Middletown        8   5   0   3   10
Belleek        9   5   0   4   10
Clonmore        8   4   0   4     8
Annaghmore        9   4   0   5     8
Tullysaran        9   3   1   5     7
An Port Mor        8   2   1   5     5
Collegeland        7   2   0   5     4
Shane O'Neill's     8   2   0   6     4
Lissummon        9   2   0   7     4
     
Div. IV
          P   W   D   L   Pts
Forkhill        9   8   0   1   16
Eire Og        9   8   0   1   16
Crossmaglen II     9   7   0   2   14
Corrinshego        9   6   0   3   12
Grange           9   5   1   3   11
Dorsey Emmett's     9   5   0   4   10
Derrynoose        9   3   2   4     8
Clady           8   2   2   4     6
Mullaghbrack        9   3   0   6     6
O'Hanlon's        9   2   0   7     4
Phelim Brady's     8   1   1   6     3
Killean           9   0   0   9     0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 14, 2009, 10:56:47 PM
Its anyones guess now who goes down in Div 1 with only 5pts between 2nd and bottom. Most teams seem capable of beating each other; the division as a whole is turning into a right dogfight!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 14, 2009, 11:32:23 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on June 14, 2009, 04:11:11 PM
Quote from: torres on June 14, 2009, 04:07:31 PM
GRANEMORE BEAT SILVERBRIDGE   2-11 - 0-6
was just going to post that, heard it was 2-10 though, not that it matters.
sigh.

what did you think of the game today PINTSOFGUINNESS ? i thought it was a poor enough i st half , a lot of handling errors from both sides , although it was only 3-4 at half time  the more experienced side [ granemore ] came good in the 2 nd half restricting the bridge to 3 free,s while scoring 2-7 themselves . seen a few of the w-cross players at the match , heard they had a player sent off against you.s to a straight red . think we play them friday night .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 15, 2009, 12:14:45 AM
DOnt live at home Torres so no games for me unfortunately.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 15, 2009, 02:44:17 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on June 14, 2009, 10:46:14 PM
Div. I
                        P   W   D   L   Pts
Crossmaglen   9   9   0   0    18   
Dromintee          9   5   0   4    10
Killeavy               9   5   0   4   10
Mullaghban         9   4   1   4     9
Pearse Og          9   4   1   4     9
St Patrick's         9   4   0   5     8
Carrickcruppen    9   3   1   5     7
Culloville             9   3   1   5     7
Clan na Gael       9   3   1   5     7
Sarsfields           9   2   1   6     5



League as good as over halfway through. Amazing that we were bottom last Saturday night and are now closer to 2nd place than last place. Think Sarsfield will struggle, they'll need some points soon to avoid being cut adrift. Could be any of the teams above them goin down. Suprised by how relatively well Mullaghban are going.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 15, 2009, 08:11:04 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 14, 2009, 04:09:47 PM
tones beat ballyhegan by bout 8 points.  ballyhegan will be in div 3 next year i would imagine.  niall lennon didnt give paddy mckeever a kick.john toal scored around 1-5.  johnny mckeever should havce got the line 4 stamping onone of our players.dirty act

Another big disappointment, after a shaky start, I thought Ballyhegan were the better team in the first half. However they never came out in the second half, & didn't score until the last 10 minutes. Davitts don't seem to have a game plan which is disappointing.

The 2 players you mentioned for the Tones were indeed very good. Also the other little corner forward gave our corner back a hard day!

For Ballyhegan, Sean McNally at corner back was our best player; we'd have been beaten by a lot more only for his efforts. Kevin Keegan showed very well in corner forwards, it's a pity we couldn't get the ball to him more...

I'd agree Ballyhegan's stint in Div II seems to be another short one!

With regards Johnny, I thought it was his momentum that took him onto the Tones player. He wouldn't be that sort of lad to be honest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 15, 2009, 11:59:35 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 14, 2009, 04:09:47 PM
tones beat ballyhegan by bout 8 points.  ballyhegan will be in div 3 next year i would imagine.  niall lennon didnt give paddy mckeever a kick.john toal scored around 1-5.  johnny mckeever should havce got the line 4 stamping onone of our players.dirty act
Depends who it was  ;)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 15, 2009, 12:09:55 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 15, 2009, 02:44:17 AM
League as good as over halfway through. Amazing that we were bottom last Saturday night and are now closer to 2nd place than last place. Think Sarsfield will struggle, they'll need some points soon to avoid being cut adrift. Could be any of the teams above them goin down. Suprised by how relatively well Mullaghban are going.
Seen mullabawn twice this year and although not the best footballing side in the league they stick to their gameplan and its seem it is paying off, despite it being (in theory) easy to counteract. I'm not overly surprised to see them where they are in the league. It will be hard luck to whoever goes down as i can't imagine there being much between the bottom teams
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on June 15, 2009, 12:29:42 PM
As a whole we def would have taken 9 points at half way stage.......only concern is that in the second half of the league we are away 2 all bottom 5 teams....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 15, 2009, 06:44:01 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on June 15, 2009, 11:59:35 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 14, 2009, 04:09:47 PM
tones beat ballyhegan by bout 8 points.  ballyhegan will be in div 3 next year i would imagine.  niall lennon didnt give paddy mckeever a kick.john toal scored around 1-5.  johnny mckeever should havce got the line 4 stamping onone of our players.dirty act
Depends who it was  ;)



was young chris mccarron he had another great game 2 points from half back.  def should be on the armagh minor panel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 15, 2009, 06:45:45 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on June 15, 2009, 08:11:04 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 14, 2009, 04:09:47 PM
tones beat ballyhegan by bout 8 points.  ballyhegan will be in div 3 next year i would imagine.  niall lennon didnt give paddy mckeever a kick.john toal scored around 1-5.  johnny mckeever should havce got the line 4 stamping onone of our players.dirty act

Another big disappointment, after a shaky start, I thought Ballyhegan were the better team in the first half. However they never came out in the second half, & didn't score until the last 10 minutes. Davitts don't seem to have a game plan which is disappointing.

The 2 players you mentioned for the Tones were indeed very good. Also the other little corner forward gave our corner back a hard day!

For Ballyhegan, Sean McNally at corner back was our best player; we'd have been beaten by a lot more only for his efforts. Kevin Keegan showed very well in corner forwards, it's a pity we couldn't get the ball to him more...

I'd agree Ballyhegan's stint in Div II seems to be another short one!

With regards Johnny, I thought it was his momentum that took him onto the Tones player. He wouldn't be that sort of lad to be honest.


no.15/?he looked your best bet for something to happen but you just couldnt get enough ball in2 him.  hopefully we can kick on from this now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 15, 2009, 06:46:26 PM
heard henderson got around 2-8 for clann eireann v tirnanog.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: captain c mck on June 15, 2009, 07:53:50 PM
What is the story with john murtagh was he fighting in ny?

or has the gaelic life made a big deal out of nothing again?



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 15, 2009, 09:40:20 PM
sarsfields minors 0-11 wolfe tones minors 2-6 :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on June 15, 2009, 09:40:37 PM
Quote from: captain c mck on June 15, 2009, 07:53:50 PM
What is the story with john murtagh was he fighting in ny?

or has the gaelic life made a big deal out of nothing again?


Are you john murtagh or why is your two posts about him?

What was he at anyway?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on June 15, 2009, 09:56:33 PM
Who is John Murtagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bigfrank on June 15, 2009, 10:00:28 PM
john murtagh currently in new york playin for tyrone!! he is from crossmaglen originally,out for summer to play ball,anyone got a link to that article in the gaelic life??? heard reports about it just
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on June 15, 2009, 10:26:26 PM
Quote from: bigfrank on June 15, 2009, 10:00:28 PM
john murtagh currently in new york playin for tyrone!! he is from crossmaglen originally,out for summer to play ball,anyone got a link to that article in the gaelic life??? heard reports about it just

it wasnt even a report. just a side piece about 5 lines long
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on June 15, 2009, 10:35:15 PM
Some sad news from Portadown tonight, our club president, and someone well known to all gaels in the county & beyond, Tommy Marley passed away this evening.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: john mcgill on June 16, 2009, 06:50:06 AM
Sorry to hear about Tommy Marley RIP.  He was a legend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 16, 2009, 08:17:50 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 15, 2009, 06:45:45 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on June 15, 2009, 08:11:04 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 14, 2009, 04:09:47 PM
tones beat ballyhegan by bout 8 points.  ballyhegan will be in div 3 next year i would imagine.  niall lennon didnt give paddy mckeever a kick.john toal scored around 1-5.  johnny mckeever should havce got the line 4 stamping onone of our players.dirty act

Another big disappointment, after a shaky start, I thought Ballyhegan were the better team in the first half. However they never came out in the second half, & didn't score until the last 10 minutes. Davitts don't seem to have a game plan which is disappointing.

The 2 players you mentioned for the Tones were indeed very good. Also the other little corner forward gave our corner back a hard day!

For Ballyhegan, Sean McNally at corner back was our best player; we'd have been beaten by a lot more only for his efforts. Kevin Keegan showed very well in corner forwards, it's a pity we couldn't get the ball to him more...

I'd agree Ballyhegan's stint in Div II seems to be another short one!

With regards Johnny, I thought it was his momentum that took him onto the Tones player. He wouldn't be that sort of lad to be honest.


no.15/?he looked your best bet for something to happen but you just couldnt get enough ball in2 him.  hopefully we can kick on from this now

Yup.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 16, 2009, 10:30:52 AM
Great result for dromintee on sunday evening - 2 much needed points. great performances from barry shannon and aidan & Michael o'rourke amongst mostly good performances. good to see our players taking a bit of responsibility.

ogs are struggling.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 16, 2009, 11:55:58 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on June 16, 2009, 10:30:52 AM
Great result for dromintee on sunday evening - 2 much needed points. great performances from barry shannon and aidan & Michael o'rourke amongst mostly good performances. good to see our players taking a bit of responsibility.

ogs are struggling.

Can you throw up a summary there chap?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 16, 2009, 12:17:55 PM

Very even first half with clarke giving a bit of bother at full forward in the first ten minutes. dromintee settled and took over around midfield but failed to put the scores on the board. nip and tuck til the half with m o'rourke pulling a lot of the strings and getting most of dromintee's scores. for ogs their full back line was very solid and any decent ball into clarke was resulting in a score - mostly via a free. point in it to ogs at half time.

second half started with dromintee in control. unlucky for 3/4 scores and ogs broke upfield to tag on a couple of scores against the run of play. 10 minutes in dromintee were pushing hard with no return and ogs again broke to win a penalty at 2 points up, which duffy put wide. home side dominated after the let off and aidan controlled the game completely. him and shannon drove forward well and linked up very will with michael. think dromintee scored 6 unanswered points to get 4 up then ogs tagged 1 on at the death.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 16, 2009, 12:18:48 PM
Anyone know when the county Minors are playing again? I thought it was this Sunday before the Tyrone Derry Match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 16, 2009, 12:27:03 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 15, 2009, 10:35:15 PM
Some sad news from Portadown tonight, our club president, and someone well known to all gaels in the county & beyond, Tommy Marley passed away this evening.

Rest in peace.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 16, 2009, 12:27:48 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on June 16, 2009, 12:17:55 PM

Very even first half with clarke giving a bit of bother at full forward in the first ten minutes. dromintee settled and took over around midfield but failed to put the scores on the board. nip and tuck til the half with m o'rourke pulling a lot of the strings and getting most of dromintee's scores. for ogs their full back line was very solid and any decent ball into clarke was resulting in a score - mostly via a free. point in it to ogs at half time.

second half started with dromintee in control. unlucky for 3/4 scores and ogs broke upfield to tag on a couple of scores against the run of play. 10 minutes in dromintee were pushing hard with no return and ogs again broke to win a penalty at 2 points up, which duffy put wide. home side dominated after the let off and aidan controlled the game completely. him and shannon drove forward well and linked up very will with michael. think dromintee scored 6 unanswered points to get 4 up then ogs tagged 1 on at the death.

Thanks, much-needed win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on June 16, 2009, 12:58:13 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on June 16, 2009, 12:18:48 PM
Anyone know when the county Minors are playing again? I thought it was this Sunday before the Tyrone Derry Match

Sunday 5th July i think in Newry
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on June 16, 2009, 01:08:52 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on June 16, 2009, 12:18:48 PM
Anyone know when the county Minors are playing again? I thought it was this Sunday before the Tyrone Derry Match


Why is it not being played this Sunday?

What are their chances of silverware this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on June 16, 2009, 01:15:06 PM
Quote from: Joxer on June 16, 2009, 01:08:52 PM
Why is it not being played this Sunday?

What are Armaghs chances of silverware this year?

Play Monaghan sounthern teams dont play until after their leaving cert exams
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 16, 2009, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 15, 2009, 10:35:15 PM
Some sad news from Portadown tonight, our club president, and someone well known to all gaels in the county & beyond, Tommy Marley passed away this evening.

Is that the wee man that always stood at the side of the gate with the pipe??? If so that man will be a sad miss to Tir Na Nog i have lasting memories of him even from underage and he alsways would have had a yarn. Rest in Peace
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 16, 2009, 02:44:54 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 16, 2009, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 15, 2009, 10:35:15 PM
Some sad news from Portadown tonight, our club president, and someone well known to all gaels in the county & beyond, Tommy Marley passed away this evening.

Is that the wee man that always stood at the side of the gate with the pipe??? If so that man will be a sad miss to Tir Na Nog i have lasting memories of him even from underage and he alsways would have had a yarn. Rest in Peace
Sad to hear. RIP
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 16, 2009, 02:53:04 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 15, 2009, 10:35:15 PM
Some sad news from Portadown tonight, our club president, and someone well known to all gaels in the county & beyond, Tommy Marley passed away this evening.

He'll be a big loss to your club. May he rest in peace.

There's not to many men about like Tommy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 16, 2009, 03:27:55 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on June 16, 2009, 10:30:52 AM
Great result for dromintee on sunday evening - 2 much needed points. great performances from barry shannon and aidan & Michael o'rourke amongst mostly good performances. good to see our players taking a bit of responsibility.

ogs are struggling.
4 on the bounce?  Been hearing rumours of some of the more senior players unsettling others.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 16, 2009, 04:02:13 PM
Quote from: topgun on June 16, 2009, 01:15:06 PM
Quote from: Joxer on June 16, 2009, 01:08:52 PM
Why is it not being played this Sunday?

What are Armaghs chances of silverware this year?

Play Monaghan sounthern teams dont play until after their leaving cert exams

Is the leaving cert not over by this weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on June 16, 2009, 05:03:25 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 16, 2009, 02:01:45 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 15, 2009, 10:35:15 PM
Some sad news from Portadown tonight, our club president, and someone well known to all gaels in the county & beyond, Tommy Marley passed away this evening.

Is that the wee man that always stood at the side of the gate with the pipe??? If so that man will be a sad miss to Tir Na Nog i have lasting memories of him even from underage and he alsways would have had a yarn. Rest in Peace
Yes, that's Tommy alright. There are not many of Tommy's kind left.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 16, 2009, 05:59:29 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 16, 2009, 03:27:55 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on June 16, 2009, 10:30:52 AM
Great result for dromintee on sunday evening - 2 much needed points. great performances from barry shannon and aidan & Michael o'rourke amongst mostly good performances. good to see our players taking a bit of responsibility.

ogs are struggling.
4 on the bounce?  Been hearing rumours of some of the more senior players unsettling others.

Just rumours Benny and totally false.  you didn't see any ogs posters spreading rumours about the Harps in recent weeks when the gossip mongers were rife about your situation
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 16, 2009, 07:13:46 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 15, 2009, 10:35:15 PM
Some sad news from Portadown tonight, our club president, and someone well known to all gaels in the county & beyond, Tommy Marley passed away this evening.

RIP
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 17, 2009, 12:09:16 PM
What is the reason for Friday night games this week...is it the 14 day rule allowing county players to play??? or have Armagh got a friendly on sunday or something?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 17, 2009, 02:22:34 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 17, 2009, 12:09:16 PM
What is the reason for Friday night games this week...is it the 14 day rule allowing county players to play??? or have Armagh got a friendly on sunday or something?

Seems to be to do with the county matches alright. When it comes to a fortnight before the Armagh match, they seem to fix the matches on a Friday night and let the county men play.

This'll be the last time the county men will be available until Armagh are out of the championship, hopefully we'll not see them again till October but the end of July is more likely.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 17, 2009, 02:54:13 PM
Aye thats what i thought myself...it won't effect us as we don't have anyone on the county panel ;) hopefully Armagh win the thing and the clubs do without their county men untill October although your predication of July looks a safer bet :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 17, 2009, 03:47:04 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 17, 2009, 02:54:13 PM
Aye thats what i thought myself...it won't effect us as we don't have anyone on the county panel ;) hopefully Armagh win the thing and the clubs do without their county men untill October although your predication of July looks a safer bet :D

Wrong saan it will effect us because we play Cross on friday night and they will be at full strength. Now the rest of the teams will get to play them under strength.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 17, 2009, 03:50:17 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 17, 2009, 03:47:04 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 17, 2009, 02:54:13 PM
Aye thats what i thought myself...it won't effect us as we don't have anyone on the county panel ;) hopefully Armagh win the thing and the clubs do without their county men untill October although your predication of July looks a safer bet :D

Wrong saan it will effect us because we play Cross on friday night and they will be at full strength. Now the rest of the teams will get to play them under strength.

Plenty of teams have played Cross with their county men earlier in the year and over the past fortnight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 17, 2009, 03:50:58 PM
Well i meant over the course of the next 2 months...

Aye like Cross will be under strength when the county men go...like it makes much difference :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 17, 2009, 04:01:59 PM
I think its better we beat them on fri with their county men on board...no excuse and what not  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 17, 2009, 04:07:43 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 16, 2009, 05:59:29 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 16, 2009, 03:27:55 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on June 16, 2009, 10:30:52 AM
Great result for dromintee on sunday evening - 2 much needed points. great performances from barry shannon and aidan & Michael o'rourke amongst mostly good performances. good to see our players taking a bit of responsibility.

ogs are struggling.
4 on the bounce?  Been hearing rumours of some of the more senior players unsettling others.

Just rumours Benny and totally false.  you didn't see any ogs posters spreading rumours about the Harps in recent weeks when the gossip mongers were rife about your situation

Speaking of which Benny, what is story with these rumours, is your mangement still intact?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on June 17, 2009, 04:24:42 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 17, 2009, 12:09:16 PM
What is the reason for Friday night games this week...is it the 14 day rule allowing county players to play??? or have Armagh got a friendly on sunday or something?

don't know the reason for this, but alot more matches should be played on fri or sat note so the players can have a social life and get out for a few beers!...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 17, 2009, 05:11:27 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 17, 2009, 03:50:17 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 17, 2009, 03:47:04 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 17, 2009, 02:54:13 PM
Aye thats what i thought myself...it won't effect us as we don't have anyone on the county panel ;) hopefully Armagh win the thing and the clubs do without their county men untill October although your predication of July looks a safer bet :D

Wrong saan it will effect us because we play Cross on friday night and they will be at full strength. Now the rest of the teams will get to play them under strength.

Plenty of teams have played Cross with their county men earlier in the year and over the past fortnight.

That would include us numb skull as we played them two sundays ago. so i fail to see the point you are trying to make. ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 17, 2009, 05:13:30 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 17, 2009, 05:11:27 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 17, 2009, 03:50:17 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 17, 2009, 03:47:04 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 17, 2009, 02:54:13 PM
Aye thats what i thought myself...it won't effect us as we don't have anyone on the county panel ;) hopefully Armagh win the thing and the clubs do without their county men untill October although your predication of July looks a safer bet :D

Wrong saan it will effect us because we play Cross on friday night and they will be at full strength. Now the rest of the teams will get to play them under strength.

Plenty of teams have played Cross with their county men earlier in the year and over the past fortnight.

That would include us numb skull as we played them two sundays ago. so i fail to see the point you are trying to make. ??? ??? ???

You were yapping about having to play Cross at full strength as though you were the only team that had to. You aren't. That is all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 17, 2009, 08:25:37 PM
Yapping??? This is clearly not true if you can see such emotions from a computer then you are a genius. The point i was making (which didn't really involve you) was to I'lldecide he made the point that it wouldn't effect the clans. I merely said that it would because we were playing them on friday night (at full strength) whilst others will get to play them over the next couple of weeks under strength. This is not yapping this is a fact :o If you term this yapping then fair enough but it really doesn't pay to be padantic and try and scrutinise every wee issue and phrase thinking you can win brownie points. Very sad actually.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 17, 2009, 09:35:44 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 17, 2009, 08:25:37 PM
Yapping??? This is clearly not true if you can see such emotions from a computer then you are a genius. The point i was making (which didn't really involve you) was to I'lldecide he made the point that it wouldn't effect the clans. I merely said that it would because we were playing them on friday night (at full strength) whilst others will get to play them over the next couple of weeks under strength. This is not yapping this is a fact :o If you term this yapping then fair enough but it really doesn't pay to be padantic and try and scrutinise every wee issue and phrase thinking you can win brownie points. Very sad actually.

Cross full strenght or not, doesn't matter. Look at the league table boys, they're still winning. You could also make the point of playing other clubs minus county players, eg. ourselves were the county boys are a bigger loss to us. Again, you could look at it another way, is it fair for teams having to play without the county boys. There's loads of ways of looking at it. The league is the way it is now and there's no changing it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 17, 2009, 09:38:47 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 16, 2009, 03:27:55 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on June 16, 2009, 10:30:52 AM
Great result for dromintee on sunday evening - 2 much needed points. great performances from barry shannon and aidan & Michael o'rourke amongst mostly good performances. good to see our players taking a bit of responsibility.

ogs are struggling.
4 on the bounce?  Been hearing rumours of some of the more senior players unsettling others.

I always try to look at things on this board from at least some sort of neutral perspective but it is really hard for me to like the Harps ones  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 18, 2009, 01:30:00 AM
you are spot on ogs head but the original post was in response to i'lldecide who is a clans man so we were specifically talking about the clans. Of course there are twenty different arguments and god knows we have had them all on here  :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 18, 2009, 11:25:44 AM
I cant just feel the love on this thread  :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 18, 2009, 01:52:02 PM
very good onion  :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on June 18, 2009, 04:12:19 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 16, 2009, 03:27:55 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on June 16, 2009, 10:30:52 AM
Great result for dromintee on sunday evening - 2 much needed points. great performances from barry shannon and aidan & Michael o'rourke amongst mostly good performances. good to see our players taking a bit of responsibility.

ogs are struggling.
4 on the bounce?  Been hearing rumours of some of the more senior players unsettling others.
god, youd nearly think everything was rosy over at the harps now after a win over bottom of the table newtown. how about focusing on helping your own team getting back up to division 1 instead of worrying about clubs who are in a much better position than you at the minute. as el cuervo said, you didnt see any ogs posters commenting on your situation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 18, 2009, 04:27:51 PM
Quote from: pearseog on June 18, 2009, 04:12:19 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 16, 2009, 03:27:55 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on June 16, 2009, 10:30:52 AM
Great result for dromintee on sunday evening - 2 much needed points. great performances from barry shannon and aidan & Michael o'rourke amongst mostly good performances. good to see our players taking a bit of responsibility.

ogs are struggling.
4 on the bounce?  Been hearing rumours of some of the more senior players unsettling others.
god, youd nearly think everything was rosy over at the harps now after a win over bottom of the table newtown. how about focusing on helping your own team getting back up to division 1 instead of worrying about clubs who are in a much better position than you at the minute. as el cuervo said, you didnt see any ogs posters commenting on your situation.
Well, only repeating what a well placed source told me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on June 18, 2009, 04:32:19 PM
well its not true. the harps posters wernt happy on here when 'well placed sources' said nudie was sacked. like i said, focus on your own club like we focus on ours.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 18, 2009, 11:32:06 PM
cruppen beat culloville 2 -13 to 1 - 11. that moves cruppen from 2nd from bottom to joint third i think. gonna be very tight this year. wouldnt rule out a playoff between some of the teams in div 1.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hurlingspeed on June 19, 2009, 03:55:02 PM
Some great role models in Armagh football...I see from the Gaelic Life that one of the young prospects hoping to fill McGrane's boots enjoys going down the loughshore for a carryout following a big win...inspirational stuff!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 19, 2009, 04:28:26 PM
Quote from: hurlingspeed on June 19, 2009, 03:55:02 PM
Some great role models in Armagh football...I see from the Gaelic Life that one of the young prospects hoping to fill McGrane's boots enjoys going down the loughshore for a carryout following a big win...inspirational stuff!!!

And whats your point ??? as long as he's not doing it before a match then who cares how he celebrates after a win ::) I think you forget these are amateur footballers who sacrifice a lot and if they can't let their hair down now and again then there wouldn't be too many doing it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 19, 2009, 09:11:43 PM
Cross bea clans by a bucket load i stopped counting clans only scored two points brutal
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 19, 2009, 09:13:12 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 19, 2009, 09:11:43 PM
Cross bea clans by a bucket load i stopped counting clans only scored two points brutal

Cross are gonna stuff nearly everyone, and then just beat the rest. the league is a waste of their time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 19, 2009, 09:22:36 PM
Cullyhanna beat Dromintee by five.

We just about shaded the first half after a good start by the home side. 5-4 to us at the break.

Mal Mackin came on at ht and made a difference in the crucial 10 minutes after before we got to grips with them.

Cullyhanna deserved the win as they were very good in the second half, although it would have been interesting if we had of taken one of our four goal chances.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 19, 2009, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on June 19, 2009, 09:13:12 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 19, 2009, 09:11:43 PM
Cross bea clans by a bucket load i stopped counting clans only scored two points brutal

Cross are gonna stuff nearly everyone, and then just beat the rest. the league is a waste of their time.
The league is just training for them, if even. they didnt have to get out of third gear the whole game. in any case the ref was horrendous for clans, not that that had any bearing on the result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 19, 2009, 10:11:38 PM
Pearse Ogs 1-12 Killeavy 3-5

The Ogs should have had Killeavy out of sight in the first half but a lot of wides kept Killeavy in the game.  Half Time score Ogs 0-8 Killeavy 1-1

The Second half was more of a tempestuous affair with tempers beginning to boil over, resulting in Mark Stanfield being sent off.

It was an entertaining half though with both teams battling hard.  The Ogs fought on to come out with a much needed win.   :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 19, 2009, 10:39:32 PM
granemore lost to whitecross by 3 pts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on June 19, 2009, 11:34:49 PM
Seriously good win for Cullyhanna in a great game of football. Dromintee missed a few chances after half time which were costly for them but st Pats had a great last twenty minutes to win the game comfortably in the end after a Gary Mc Cooey goal. Alot of wides by both teams but Malachys introduction at half time along with a great performance from our half back line laid the foundations for victory. Two good points to get against a strong dromintee team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 19, 2009, 11:54:12 PM
Any word from sarsfields and mullaghban?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on June 20, 2009, 12:04:00 AM
Quote from: qub la la la on June 19, 2009, 11:54:12 PM
Any word from sarsfields and mullaghban?

Sarsfields won by 4 according to some lad on orchardcounty

Ridiculously close in division 1, I make it 4 points between 2nd and bottom.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 20, 2009, 01:03:45 AM
Cross destroyed clans - very poor showing from clans considering how well they performed only a fortnight ago up in cross. However it doesnt effect their league season too much as cross seem to be toying with everybody. Cant see anyone beating them this year certainly not any of the teams in the bottom half of the league. (which is everybody except cross!!  ;D ;D ;D)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 20, 2009, 11:51:17 AM
Div. I
                        P   W   D   L   Pts
Crossmaglen       10  10   0   0    20   
Pearse Og          10   5   1   4     11
Dromintee          10   5   0   5     10
Killeavy               10   5   0   5     10
St Patrick's         10   5   0   5     10
Carrickcruppen    10   4   1   5     9
Mullaghban         10   4   1   5     9
Culloville             10   3   1   6     7
Clan na Gael       10   3   1   6     7
Sarsfields           10   3   1   6     7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 20, 2009, 12:03:59 PM
Any other division 2 results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 20, 2009, 12:33:33 PM
Quote from: torres on June 19, 2009, 10:39:32 PM
granemore lost to whitecross by 3 pts
i must add [ after giving him some stick for the last time he referred our game v c eirann ] that barney henry had a very good game last night , i just wish he and his fellow refs were more consistant .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 20, 2009, 12:36:49 PM
Quote from: ogshead on June 20, 2009, 12:03:59 PM
Any other division 2 results?

ballyhegan bt c eirann

tir na og bt a harps
silverbridge drew madden
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 20, 2009, 12:44:01 PM
only 4 points seperating second from bottom in division 1 - very tight indeed and id imagine from now till the end teams will be shifting up and down like crazy every week. This one will go right till the last weekend with almost 9 teams trying to stay up! madness!! :o :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 20, 2009, 01:57:26 PM
Quote from: torres on June 20, 2009, 12:36:49 PM
Quote from: ogshead on June 20, 2009, 12:03:59 PM
Any other division 2 results?

ballyhegan bt c eirann

tir na og bt a harps
silverbridge drew madden

Bennydorano, is there something amiss?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 20, 2009, 04:15:19 PM
Can't disagree with much of the amalysis of the drom cul game- except for the description of the dromintee lineup as a strong. Quite a few missing for our lads. Game was lost into the breeze first half with so many missed chances. Mackin changed the game when he came in and dominated our pairing.
Only positives from a dromintee perspective was the continued good form of cathal o'neill and aidan o'rourke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on June 20, 2009, 11:00:29 PM

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Bennydorano, is there something amiss?
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I heard from a reliable source that there is major problems and fighting within the squad  ;)    ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 21, 2009, 11:43:20 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on June 20, 2009, 11:00:29 PM
I heard from a reliable source that there is major problems and fighting within the squad  ;)    ;D :D ;D

Well there were a few good sources round the shambles last night who were full of information.  I wouldn't want to spread any rumours though   ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 22, 2009, 09:42:09 AM
Quote from: ogshead on June 20, 2009, 12:03:59 PM
Any other division 2 results?

Ballymacnab Beat the Tones on Fri Night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 22, 2009, 12:18:48 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 20, 2009, 01:57:26 PM
Quote from: torres on June 20, 2009, 12:36:49 PM
Quote from: ogshead on June 20, 2009, 12:03:59 PM
Any other division 2 results?

ballyhegan bt c eirann

tir na og bt a harps
silverbridge drew madden

Bennydorano, is there something amiss?
shitload of players
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 22, 2009, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: torres on June 20, 2009, 12:36:49 PM
Quote from: ogshead on June 20, 2009, 12:03:59 PM
Any other division 2 results?

ballyhegan bt c eirann

tir na og bt a harps
silverbridge drew madden

By 7 points would you believe!  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 22, 2009, 07:19:57 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on June 22, 2009, 01:58:54 PM
Quote from: torres on June 20, 2009, 12:36:49 PM
Quote from: ogshead on June 20, 2009, 12:03:59 PM
Any other division 2 results?

ballyhegan bt c eirann

tir na og bt a harps
silverbridge drew madden

By 7 points would you believe!  :o

yeah great result for ballyegan , i was surprised :o [ but glad  :)] you,s beat them [ whingers  :'(] as they had beaten us at home a few weeks back and looked a good side , but then they lost at home to madden and then yourselves  :D .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 22, 2009, 09:20:19 PM
Plenty of unrest in Abbey Park then? Rumours are rife of a revolt at the Harps. Tea Ladies, bar staff and the whole lot are very upset at recent performances!!! Na, seriously, the rumour I heard was that John Morrison is taking training now, anyone know is there any truth in it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 22, 2009, 10:09:07 PM
Forgot to mention, well done to the Cuchulliann's under 14 hurling team won their Division at the All Ireland Feile. It's always a great boost to a club when they win county feile's so winning the All Ireland will leave a real feel good factor around the club. Congratulations lads!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on June 22, 2009, 10:16:28 PM
Many thanks ogshead, just a brief rundown of the weekend


Cuchulainns Armagh
Div 4
All Ireland Champions

Congratulations to all the young lads, mentors, supporters, helpers, sponsors and host club Crinkle Gaels.

Group Stages
CHC 2-5     2-3  Crinkle Gaels Offaly
CHC 2-11   2-1  Drumcullen Offaly
CHC won   lost  Coill Doibh Kildare

Semi Final

CHC 5-4   0-3  Lusma Offaly

Final
CHC 4-3   3-5  St Patricks Roscommon

*********************************


Also, congratulations to St Brendas Ballymacnab in winning the Div 3 All Ireland Camogie title
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: billy the kid on June 23, 2009, 11:41:51 AM
could someone post a link to an updated version of the Armagh league tables and results of the last couple of weeks or so. Cheers

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donners on June 23, 2009, 12:13:52 PM
Wednesday 24th June
Boyle Transport ACL @ 7.30pm
Division 2
Maghery v Madden—Barney Henry

Thursday 25th June
Boyle Transport ACL @ 7.30pm
Division 1
Killeavy v St.Patricks—Stephen Murray
Division 3
Keady v Annaghmore—Seamus O'Neill

Friday 26th June
Boyle Transport ACL @ 7.30pn
Division 2
Wolfe Tone v Clann Eireann—Paul Rath
Ballyhegan v Armagh Harps—Ronan Quigley
Tir na nOg v Maghery—Kevin McNeice
St.Michaels v Silverbridge—Oliver Hearty
Granemore v Ballymacnab—Tony Watters
Division 3
An Port Mor v St.Pauls—Eugene D.Nugent

Saturday 27th June
Og Sport @ 10.00am @Pearse Og Park
All participating teams to be at venue at 9.45am
Referees Eugene D.Nugent, Patrick Duffy, Stephen McKinley,
Jim Lynch, Stephen Murray.

Boyle Transport ACL @ 6.30pm
Division 1
Mullabawn v Pearse Og—Damian McConville
Sunday 28th June Boyle Transport ACL @ 2.00pm
Division 1
Dromintee v Carrickcruppin—Eamon Nugent
Cullaville v Clan na Gael—Kevin Gallogly
Crossmaglen v Sarsfields—Stephen McKinley
Division 2
Madden v Whitecross—Gary Smith
Division 3
Tullysarran v Clonmore—Patrick Duffy
Lissummon v Shane O'Neills—Frank McDonald
Belleek v Collegeland—Vincent O'Neill
Division 4
Phelim Bradys v Corrinshigo—Joseph Murtagh
Clady v Dorsey Emmetts—Rory Robinson
Mullabrack v Forkhill—Paul Boylan
Killean v Grange—Jim Lynch
Eire Og v O'Hanlons—Padraig Hughes
Derrynoose v Crossmaglen 2nds—Tony O'Hare
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on June 23, 2009, 10:44:25 PM
why is there alot of games played on friday nights now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 24, 2009, 12:21:04 AM
not one for startin rumours but i heard tonight there is a managerial vacancy at abbey park?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on June 24, 2009, 07:54:42 AM
Quote from: billy the kid on June 23, 2009, 11:41:51 AM
could someone post a link to an updated version of the Armagh league tables and results of the last couple of weeks or so. Cheers



Go to armagh-gaa.com and you will get most of the results & tables
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 24, 2009, 10:20:18 AM
Quote from: qub la la la on June 24, 2009, 12:21:04 AM
not one for startin rumours but i heard tonight there is a managerial vacancy at abbey park?

Don't think so, nudie took training last night.

Beefer took one training session last week at the invitation of th club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on June 24, 2009, 10:54:20 AM
Quote from: full back on June 24, 2009, 07:54:42 AM
Quote from: billy the kid on June 23, 2009, 11:41:51 AM
could someone post a link to an updated version of the Armagh league tables and results of the last couple of weeks or so. Cheers



Go to armagh-gaa.com and you will get most of the results & tables

www.orchardcounty.com has the club fixtures, results & tables on their website.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 24, 2009, 11:31:56 AM
at the request of the club rather than nudie. Benny?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 24, 2009, 12:43:58 PM
Nothing sinister, he's 2 sons on the panel, I'd imagine they had something to do with the invitation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 24, 2009, 09:56:54 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 24, 2009, 12:43:58 PM
Nothing sinister, he's 2 sons on the panel, I'd imagine they had something to do with the invitation.

aye nothing wrong with a different voice and different drills and that every once in a while.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 25, 2009, 10:34:53 PM
clans stuffed tirnanog in north b final left before the end about 10 or 11 in it at that stage
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on June 25, 2009, 11:37:45 PM
How did the Killeavy and Carrickcruppen match go this evening?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on June 26, 2009, 07:55:25 AM
killeavy was playing cullyhanna and it ended a draw 10 each.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 26, 2009, 08:35:34 AM
Pearse Ogs beat the Harps in the mid B final by 4 points  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 26, 2009, 09:28:00 AM
As far as i know it Clans v Ogs in the "B" championship semi final, i think it's around the end of July.

The north Armagh final finished something like Clans 3-15 Tir na Og 1-08
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 26, 2009, 07:46:02 PM
granemore v ballymacnab  -  off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 26, 2009, 09:46:26 PM
Clann Eireann bt Tones 0-6 to 1-13. Poor enough game. Clann Eireann goal was some score.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 26, 2009, 09:52:07 PM
bridge and newtown drew
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on June 26, 2009, 09:57:18 PM
Harps beat Ballyhegan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BroJolly on June 26, 2009, 10:28:47 PM
Was Charlie Vernon playing? Heard rumour he was due to?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 26, 2009, 10:42:39 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 26, 2009, 09:28:00 AM
As far as i know it Clans v Ogs in the "B" championship semi final, i think it's around the end of July.

The north Armagh final finished something like Clans 3-15 Tir na Og 1-08
One sided affair with clans ahving the luxury of bringing on a sub still wearing his runners!!haha!   ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on June 27, 2009, 08:43:30 AM
Quote from: BroJolly on June 26, 2009, 10:28:47 PM
Was Charlie Vernon playing? Heard rumour he was due to?

No Charlie Vernon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 28, 2009, 10:44:44 AM
Mullaghbawn 0-12 Pearse Ogs 1-11

Good win for the Ogs last night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 28, 2009, 04:20:47 PM
Sarsfields went 2-3 to 0-1 up against Cross after 15 minutes. Cross rallied and were 10 ahead with 15 left. Sarsfield scored 2-2 to take the margin down to 2 points but Cross emerged victorious on the scoreline of 4-13 to 4-6.
A great game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 28, 2009, 05:08:26 PM
Clan na Gael beat Culloville by 3 I think in the end.. Culloville are one cynical team  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 28, 2009, 05:51:14 PM
Yeah when Culloville realised they couldn't win the match playing football they tried to start fights all over the pitch. They managed to get one of our lads sent of but credit the rest of them they kept their cool.A great result and a fine two points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 28, 2009, 10:52:30 PM
Think that leaves the table like this:

       PLD   W   D   L   PTS
Crossmaglen    11   11   0   0   22
Pearse Og       11   6   1   3   13
Carrickcruppen 11   5   1   5   11
Clan na Gael     11   5   1   5   11
Killeavy        11   5   1   5   11
St Patricks       11   5   1   5   11
Dromintee       11   5   0   6   10
Mullabawn        11   4   1   6   9
Culloville          11   3   1   7   7
Sarsfields        11   3   1   7   7

still anyones guess who will go down but ogs seem to be puilling away. sarsfields and culloville could do with a win pretty soon to stay in touch.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 28, 2009, 10:56:18 PM
Clans are on 9 points

Table is like this

                      Pld    W   D    L    Pts
Crossmaglen      11   11   0     0   22   
Pearse Og      11     6   1     4   13
Carrickcruppen   11     5   1     5   11
Killeavy      11     5   1     5   11
St Patrick's      11     4   1     5   11
Dromintee      11     5   0     6   10
Clan na Gael      11     4   1     6     9
Mullaghbawn      11     4   1     6     9
Culloville      11     3   1     7     7
Sarsfields      11     3   1     7     7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on June 29, 2009, 11:21:01 AM

heard dromintee were hammered again - by cruppen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 29, 2009, 11:24:26 AM
Quote from: The GAA on June 29, 2009, 11:21:01 AM

heard dromintee were hammered again - by cruppen.

Destroyed and could have been a lot more apparently.

Missing half a team but still no excuse to lose to Cruppen by that much.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 29, 2009, 11:27:07 AM

Dreadful from dromintee. only 2 home games left now and one of those is against cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 29, 2009, 11:32:30 AM
I was up the other night and had a very interesting conversation with a few Ogs' lads and a Harps girl.   The girl told me who her dad is and I would actually have rathered listen to what she had to say than the lads as they didn't seem like they had much of a clue, but anyway.  They all reckoned that the Ogs or Harps would beat Cross this year with a bit to spare.  Now factor in a lot of pints and a bit of banter, but they were pretty adamant that Cross were a finished team and that the Og's would dominate over the next few years.  I haven't seen any games this year but I reckon that the results and scorelines would suggest that if anything the gap is getting bigger at the minute.

What would people think?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on June 29, 2009, 11:37:49 AM

A club of cross's stature shouldn't have to fish for compliments....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 29, 2009, 11:39:39 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 29, 2009, 11:32:30 AM
I was up the other night and had a very interesting conversation with a few Ogs' lads and a Harps girl.   The girl told me who her dad is and I would actually have rathered listen to what she had to say than the lads as they didn't seem like they had much of a clue, but anyway.  They all reckoned that the Ogs or Harps would beat Cross this year with a bit to spare.  Now factor in a lot of pints and a bit of banter, but they were pretty adamant that Cross were a finished team and that the Og's would dominate over the next few years.  I haven't seen any games this year but I reckon that the results and scorelines would suggest that if anything the gap is getting bigger at the minute.

What would people think?


Case closed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 29, 2009, 11:45:28 AM
I am not fishing for praise. This is a discussion board and I wanted to see what people think about the real prospects of the other teams this year.  I know we are the best club, but I haven't seen any games this year.  I am simply wondering if the results do reflect that there is an increasing gap?  It was interesting to hear the lads views and they were adamant that Ogs will break though and even if it was half tongue in cheek they firmly believed that they would win it this year.

corn they were not falling drunk and were well able to mind what they were saying, as was I.  I am more interested in the viewpoint of people here about do the results reflect a growing gap?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 29, 2009, 11:50:01 AM
Well cross only beat Pearse Og by 1 pt, by all accounts Ogs could have won it with a bit to spare. Only the league of course but they are probably the best equipped team to take Cross on, and maybe dromintee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 29, 2009, 11:59:34 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 29, 2009, 11:45:28 AM


corn they were not falling drunk and were well able to mind what they were saying, as was I.  I am more interested in the viewpoint of people here about do the results reflect a growing gap?

It's league football so I don't know, county players out of teams always makes it hazy, however the fact that a Cross 'select' can domolish teams like Cruppen and Killeavy who are basically full strength is worrying.

From our own view point, the fact that our team minus county men, is performingy so poorly is a worry, because the talent is certainly there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 29, 2009, 01:14:14 PM
BC having watched and played Armagh club football over the years my own personal opinion would be that there will only be one team that could possibly challenge Cross this year and that would be the ogs. However i still don't think they have the goolies when it comes to the crunch. Now this has been the case in years gone by but there where a few other clubs that could have and on some occassions arguably should have beaten the cross. After the ogs i feel that no one will touch the cross because the rest of the teams are just an ordinary bunch with no exceptions. I am not only basing this on league tables and results i have seen these teams over the years and this year and i would have to say that in general the standard of club football in Armagh has declined. The Cross are an exceptional team and it only dawned on me for the first the other night in Davitt when they destroyed us the amount of organisation they have. Them lads are highly skilled footballers but also have a great understanding right throughout the field. If the og's are to beat Cross there will have to be a lot go right for them on the day. I have no doubt the ogs have the footballing talent and pace in their team but as i say i hink they lack the stomach for the fight.

This year in the league has been strange because apart from Cross all other teams are beating each other so it is competitive and it is noticeable the mount of young fella's coming through right across the board. It will take these young lads a couple of years to bed in. My own club has had seven or eight lads retiring from last year and these lads would be a miss to any team. We have had to replace them with a group of raw players just out of mnor but it is a great feeling and privilage to watch them young lads mature on the field. You come away with a great sense of pride and achievement when these lads take to the field and stand up to the Cullovilles, St Pat's , Dromintees and the rest. But in general i think a lot of teams are going through transitional periods (similar to the county team) and it will take a few years for the rewards to be fully realised. Cross are slightly different in this regard also because they have had the luxury of success of the highest level and as we know success brings more support and vibrancy around any club. As a result the cross have been more successful at getting the correct mixture of youth with experience. This is even more evident today as the likes of the macs and Mc Conville are now only concentraing on club duties. They will be hard to stop lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 29, 2009, 01:28:18 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 29, 2009, 11:45:28 AM
I am not fishing for praise. This is a discussion board and I wanted to see what people think about the real prospects of the other teams this year.  I know we are the best club, but I haven't seen any games this year.  I am simply wondering if the results do reflect that there is an increasing gap?  It was interesting to hear the lads views and they were adamant that Ogs will break though and even if it was half tongue in cheek they firmly believed that they would win it this year.

corn they were not falling drunk and were well able to mind what they were saying, as was I.  I am more interested in the viewpoint of people here about do the results reflect a growing gap?

I think there's a growing gap. We've always argued to people from other counties that, despite Cross' dominance, club football in the rest of Armagh is as good as that in any other county in Ulster, and I think that, up until the past couple of years, that has been a fair analysis. At the minute though, I think we're going through a lull in terms of challengers stepping up the plate. Cross aren't really getting any better but there's fewer teams at the standard able to challenge. Dromintee are the best example - excellent team on paper but have had the stuiffing knocked out of them by too many defeats by Cross to the point where I'm not sure if they even believe they'll ever beat the Rangers. The current state of affairs will only last another year or two until another real challenger steps forward. Ógs and Harps are maybe best placed but with the players we have coming through, I'm genuinely hopeful that St Pat's can be a real force in Armagh football in the years to come.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on June 29, 2009, 01:38:44 PM
Harps have a considerable gap to close on Whitecross......never mind Crossmaglen :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on June 29, 2009, 07:30:59 PM
Quote from: corn02 on June 29, 2009, 11:24:26 AM
Quote from: The GAA on June 29, 2009, 11:21:01 AM

heard dromintee were hammered again - by cruppen.

Destroyed and could have been a lot more apparently.

Missing half a team but still no excuse to lose to Cruppen by that much.

sounds like maybe you's have a devine right to not lose by that much to lowly Cruppen. I do accept that Dromintee were missing a number of their best players but there should have been a lot more in it to be honest, an awful lot more. The view of one of your own players was that without the county boys there just isnt the talent there to compete.

Tacadoir is correct in saying that a lot of teams are in a kind of tranition. On Sunday 9 of our starters have played u21 football in the past 2 seasons and 4 of our subs that went on aswell. We do realise that we are a team that is hopefully developing and can build on the success at u21 level over the past 2 years. Ogs do seem to be the only team that may challenge cross this year, but i think the record 14 in a row is only a matter of when and not if.

And going back to corn's other point about cross select, dromintee still have to play them twice and it will be interesting to see what happens in those games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on June 29, 2009, 08:13:54 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on June 29, 2009, 07:30:59 PM
Quote from: corn02 on June 29, 2009, 11:24:26 AM
Quote from: The GAA on June 29, 2009, 11:21:01 AM

heard dromintee were hammered again - by cruppen.

Destroyed and could have been a lot more apparently.

Missing half a team but still no excuse to lose to Cruppen by that much.

sounds like maybe you's have a devine right to not lose by that much to lowly Cruppen.

Get off that high horse there.

I don't expect it to lose by 10 points at home to any team whether it be Cross or Cruppen.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 30, 2009, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on June 29, 2009, 11:32:30 AM
I was up the other night and had a very interesting conversation with a few Ogs' lads and a Harps girl.   The girl told me who her dad is and I would actually have rathered listen to what she had to say than the lads as they didn't seem like they had much of a clue, but anyway.  They all reckoned that the Ogs or Harps would beat Cross this year with a bit to spare.  Now factor in a lot of pints and a bit of banter, but they were pretty adamant that Cross were a finished team and that the Og's would dominate over the next few years.  I haven't seen any games this year but I reckon that the results and scorelines would suggest that if anything the gap is getting bigger at the minute.

What would people think?



I think they were on drugs lad!!! If you joined Harps and Ogs they wouldnt beat Cross this year and the only thing the Ogs will dominate over next few years is Armagh city such is the state the Harps are in!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on June 30, 2009, 04:53:06 PM
last comment is a bit OTT. If the Harps & Ogs joined together, I would be confident with the pick that they could beat cross. Ye have a short Memory, Harps were robbed last year by some dismal refereeing & Umpires. Cross were holding on.... If Ogs had a mid field in last years final it could have been a different story. The Mc Entees, belllews & mc convilles of this world are'nt getting any younger, & while they have some fine new young players, they did'nt exactely cover theselves in glory in last years AICF.

The main problem with Armagh football at the minute is the dimise in North Armagh, maybe it was too many clubs, or too much competition from soccer (I don't know) but to see a once great clans struggling is not something which is good for Armagh football. Cross's dominance will end at some stage. The main problem as I see it at the minute is, if you look at 95% of senior club teams now, they are full of Minors, U 21's and guys under the age of 25. There is very little experience & battle hardened guys anymore. I remember when the Harps were dominant, we had plenty of youth, but a back bone of county & experienced men such as 2 Grimleys, Clarke, Toner, O Kane, Corvan, Rath etc... You don't see that any more....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on June 30, 2009, 08:40:01 PM
Is the game dominated by younger men because the older lads have too much going on? Are they picking up more injuries than they used to 10-20 years ago? Is the game too fast now for the late 20 early 30 something's?
I wonder if other sports like Rugby are finding the same statistics? Or is it just Gaelic games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 30, 2009, 09:43:11 PM
Iceman that would be an interesting study because it clearly is a visible problem in the GAA, at club level mostly
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 01, 2009, 12:16:43 AM
think the injury thing is a valid point. always hear the oul ones about the club giving out about physios and the like and saying "there was no hamstrings in my day"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on July 01, 2009, 05:50:27 PM
QuoteIs the game too fast now for the late 20 early 30 something's?

Perhaps. But a lot of clubs would take John Donaldson if they could get him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on July 01, 2009, 07:20:47 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 01, 2009, 05:50:27 PM
QuoteIs the game too fast now for the late 20 early 30 something's?

Perhaps. But a lot of clubs would take John Donaldson if they could get him.
I'm sure they would be glad of him - but the trend now is more youth and one or two old brigade whereas in days gone by it would seem the old brigade made up the majority of the team.....
Either way some of you are bound to have contacts with local rugby teams - are they older - the Og's boys play against Armagh rugby team in a charity game every year - what age are those boyos?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 01, 2009, 10:43:01 PM
Tir na og beat the bridge tonight - 3 or 4 points in it I think
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on July 02, 2009, 08:05:05 AM
Quote from: The Iceman on July 01, 2009, 07:20:47 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 01, 2009, 05:50:27 PM
QuoteIs the game too fast now for the late 20 early 30 something's?

Perhaps. But a lot of clubs would take John Donaldson if they could get him.
I'm sure they would be glad of him - but the trend now is more youth and one or two old brigade whereas in days gone by it would seem the old brigade made up the majority of the team.....
Either way some of you are bound to have contacts with local rugby teams - are they older - the Og's boys play against Armagh rugby team in a charity game every year - what age are those boyos?

when the Ogs played Armagh RFC the past few years they've been all young fella's (and some of them would be dead on with the round ball in hand)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 02, 2009, 08:09:18 AM
Cullyhanna & Dromintee drew 1-9 apiece in the South Armagh B C'ship final last night
Replay next Wednesday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 02, 2009, 12:36:33 PM
Lads does anyone know the exact date for the all county B championship final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 02, 2009, 12:39:06 PM
Quote from: full back on July 02, 2009, 08:09:18 AM
Cullyhanna & Dromintee drew 1-9 apiece in the South Armagh B C'ship final last night
Replay next Wednesday

How Cullyhanna did not win this one I will never know.

Our boys never got going and really under performed. Were seven down with about 10 minutes left and blitzed Cullyhanna in the final moments with Cathal O'Neill scoring an excellent last-gasp point to tie it up.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 02, 2009, 03:00:35 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 02, 2009, 12:36:33 PM
Lads does anyone know the exact date for the all county B championship final

6th August saan (i think) apparently it's the week b4 the senior championship ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 02, 2009, 09:14:01 PM
That's a good thing ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 02, 2009, 09:49:13 PM
What is the reason for the intermediate championship starting before the junior and senior?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on July 03, 2009, 12:21:33 AM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on July 02, 2009, 09:49:13 PM
What is the reason for the intermediate championship starting before the junior and senior?



because the other two dont count.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 03, 2009, 01:31:37 PM
very good saan :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 03, 2009, 02:49:44 PM
Hi everyone just new to the board but have enjoyed some of the banter to date. Just on a note of information the mid board championship winners at u16 and b get a bye to the county finals this year. There has been a missprint in the all county fixture book which has been confirmed by the fixtures secretary. The b and u16 finals are down for sunday 9th August, possible double header with pearse ogs qualified from the mid for both. The North and South winners meet at semi-final stage. The u14 and u12 all county championship semi-finals will be played at the end of August with the mid board this year forwarding two reps which will be the Ogs and Harps.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 03, 2009, 03:26:18 PM
welcome wanderer
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 03, 2009, 10:47:40 PM
Herard Sarsfields beat Og's tonight by 8pts...? can some of the Og's guys confirm this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 04, 2009, 12:07:23 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 03, 2009, 02:49:44 PM
Just on a note of information the mid board championship winners at u16 and b get a bye to the county finals this year. There has been a missprint in the all county fixture book which has been confirmed by the fixtures secretary. The b and u16 finals are down for sunday 9th August, possible double header with pearse ogs qualified from the mid for both. The North and South winners meet at semi-final stage.
So its Clans v winner of Cullyhanna/Dromintee in the B semi??? When is this match??

Were there any other div1 games aprt from Ogs/sarsfields?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 04, 2009, 12:55:33 AM
Harps beat Clann Eireann by 4 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 04, 2009, 09:58:10 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 04, 2009, 12:07:23 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 03, 2009, 02:49:44 PM
Just on a note of information the mid board championship winners at u16 and b get a bye to the county finals this year. There has been a missprint in the all county fixture book which has been confirmed by the fixtures secretary. The b and u16 finals are down for sunday 9th August, possible double header with pearse ogs qualified from the mid for both. The North and South winners meet at semi-final stage.
So its Clans v winner of Cullyhanna/Dromintee in the B semi??? When is this match??

Were there any other div1 games aprt from Ogs/sarsfields?

Last week in July i think...( 24th, 25th or 26th, in or around those dates)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on July 04, 2009, 11:20:00 AM
Wasn't at game last night and all I heard so far was that we were well beat
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 04, 2009, 11:58:05 AM
Division 4
Cross beat Eire Og by 2 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 04, 2009, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: crossfire on July 04, 2009, 11:58:05 AM
Division 4
Cross beat Eire Og by 2 points.

Any chance of a Cross Seconds line up Crossfire?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 04, 2009, 02:02:37 PM
I thought the clans play the ogs in the B semi final with the south Armagh team straight into the final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: inthemaking on July 04, 2009, 04:23:16 PM
anyone know were i can listen to the minor match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: clanneire on July 04, 2009, 05:48:11 PM
96.3 fm minor match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JMohan on July 05, 2009, 12:13:10 AM
Very disappointed to see that Armagh performance tonight ....

A great county and great team/players and I think youse need to stop the decline before it goes any further.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 05, 2009, 03:38:44 PM
Mullaghbán 1-8 St Pat's 0-8

Poor match but I suppose that was to be expected given the conditions. Lot of water lying on the pitch as there was a very heavy shower just before throw in. We had more possession and terrority and lead 0-4 to 0-3 after a great early score from Mal Mackin and a couple of fine points from Liam O'Hare. Mullaghban won the match simply because they played the smarter more direct football while we messed about too much playing ourselves into trouble. Some superb free taking and a messy second half goal was enough to win it for Mullaghban. Very poor result from ourselves and the unbeaten record of the new manager is gone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on July 05, 2009, 04:08:11 PM
The torrential downpour b4 the game TAC, any pitch in ireland would hd been waterlogged.  No offense to our boys but with the team line-out b4 the game we didn expect much, i counted  9 players from our strongest 15 missing through injury/suspension and holidays...well done boys gr8 result,only our 2nd win on the rd this year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 05, 2009, 04:39:44 PM
cruppen beat killeavy 2 - 16 to 1 - 9. It was 2 - 11 to 2 points at half time. cruppen stopped in the second half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 05, 2009, 05:02:41 PM
Dromintee beat Clans by 5. Were ahead by 11 and let Clans back into it, but, that said, best performance of the year.

Ref somehow played 36 minutes in the second half, was a bit weird.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 05, 2009, 05:12:22 PM
Think that leaves it like this, awaiting the result from cross and culloville.

                      Pld    W   D    L    Pts
Crossmaglen      11   11   0     0    22   
Carrickcruppen   12     6   1     5    13
Pearse Og         12     6   1     5    13
Dromintee         12     6   0     6    12
Killeavy              12     5   1     6    11
Mullaghbawn      12    5    1     6    11
St Patrick's        12     5   1     6    11
Clan na Gael       12     4   1     7     9
Sarsfields           12     4   1     7     9
Culloville            11     3   1     7     7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on July 05, 2009, 05:48:31 PM
Full Armagh club results & tables on www.orchardcounty.com
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 05, 2009, 09:23:25 PM
Cross 11 points clear with only 6 matches remaining. Cruppen, Ógs and Dromintee all need to win next week to keep their title challenge alive.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 05, 2009, 09:57:03 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 05, 2009, 05:02:41 PM
Dromintee beat Clans by 5. Were ahead by 11 and let Clans back into it, but, that said, best performance of the year.

Ref somehow played 36 minutes in the second half, was a bit weird.
Why are Dromintee lads saying it was 5 and Clans saying 3? Not that it matters, but one of the two obviously can't count
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 05, 2009, 10:04:33 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 05, 2009, 09:23:25 PM
Cross 11 points clear with only 6 matches remaining. Cruppen, Ógs and Dromintee all need to win next week to keep their title challenge alive.  ::)

yea hopefully now armagh are beat cross will drop a few points  :-\

with dromintee to play them twice maybe they will be the team to catch them  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 05, 2009, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 05, 2009, 10:04:33 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 05, 2009, 09:23:25 PM
Cross 11 points clear with only 6 matches remaining. Cruppen, Ógs and Dromintee all need to win next week to keep their title challenge alive.  ::)

yea hopefully now armagh are beat cross will drop a few points  :-\

with dromintee to play them twice maybe they will be the team to catch them  ::)

Just a weird post really.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 05, 2009, 10:12:23 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 05, 2009, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 05, 2009, 10:04:33 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 05, 2009, 09:23:25 PM
Cross 11 points clear with only 6 matches remaining. Cruppen, Ógs and Dromintee all need to win next week to keep their title challenge alive.  ::)

yea hopefully now armagh are beat cross will drop a few points  :-\

with dromintee to play them twice maybe they will be the team to catch them  ::)

Just a weird post really.

how so. you more than most can be akin to the sarcasm corn. dont see your point? did u take in the dromintee game today? was it 3 or 6 in it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 05, 2009, 10:30:12 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 05, 2009, 10:12:23 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 05, 2009, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 05, 2009, 10:04:33 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 05, 2009, 09:23:25 PM
Cross 11 points clear with only 6 matches remaining. Cruppen, Ógs and Dromintee all need to win next week to keep their title challenge alive.  ::)

yea hopefully now armagh are beat cross will drop a few points  :-\

with dromintee to play them twice maybe they will be the team to catch them  ::)


Ah get you now chap.

It was five, you know how good I am at maths.

Who played wel lfor you and Killeavy?
Just a weird post really.

how so. you more than most can be akin to the sarcasm corn. dont see your point? did u take in the dromintee game today? was it 3 or 6 in it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 06, 2009, 11:22:12 AM
Was at clans game and there was 3 in it (13-10). That said Clans were never going to win it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 06, 2009, 11:23:57 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 06, 2009, 11:22:12 AM
Was at clans game and there was 3 in it (13-10). That said Clans were never going to win it.

There was five in it. Even the Clans men beside us had five.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 06, 2009, 12:23:07 PM
There was actually 4 in it :D :D :D although it shoud have been 10 ;)

1:13 to 1:09 i think the ref told me...r did he say it was 13 - 9 can't remember. But who cares as 3, 4 or 50 it was still a defeat
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 06, 2009, 04:29:18 PM
This thread is getting like brucies price is right (higher ) lower :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 06, 2009, 09:12:39 PM
Maybe yous didnt hear me the first time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 06, 2009, 10:08:35 PM
Friday 3 July 2009
Armagh Division 2 League
Granemore 2-13 Wolfe Tones 1-7
Wolfe Tones suffered a 9 point reversal in Friday night's league game away to Granemore.  The Tones started off in the ascendancy, and took the lead in the 6th minute through a Chris McAlinden left footed effort.  James Lavery did well to break the ball at midfield and after good work by Emmet Haughian, Brendan Coleman and a killer pass from Shaun Smyth, Chris was able to raise the first white flag of the game from 25 yards. 
The home side responded with 2 well taken frees in the 9th and 11th minute from their number 15, who then registered his 3rd point of the evening and first from play after 15 minutes. 
Despite trailing at this stage the Tones where well in the game at midfield, with James Lavery winning break ball and Connor Coleman able to claim 4 clean catches in the opening third of the game.  After Niall Geoghegan picked up a loose ball, he was able to pick out James who surged through the Granemore defence in the 18th minute to leave the minimum between the sides. 
Following more good work by Niall Geoghegan, Emmet Haughian was able to turn his man in the 20th minute and pulled down inside the 14 yard line as he was just about to pull the trigger.  Chris McAlinden then calmly stepped up and placed the penalty to the keeper's right leaving allowing the Tones to go back in front on a score line of 1-2 to 3 points. 
After Niall Geoghegan and the Granemore number 13 exchanged wides, Granemore began to turn the screw on the stroke of halftime.  After Chris McAlinden dropped a shot short Granemore where able to quickly break up the field and their midfielder was able to round Kieran Murray in the 24th minute and finish to the net, restoring Granemore's lead.  The homeside then hit a purple patch which turned the game in their favour, rattling over a further 6 points in the last 5 minutes of the half, 5 of which came from play. 
Half time
Granemore 1-9 Wolfe Tones 1-2
Though trailing by 7 points at half time, if the Tones could replicate the form they showed in the first 20 minutes of the game there was still a chance of gaining some points from the game as they where being aided by quite a strong breeze in the second half. 
After Chris McAlinden kicked a wide, he quickly redeemed himself with some great tackling which led to Brendan Coleman supplying John Toal with possession and John was able to shoot his first score of the game.  Granemore responded in the 34th minute when their number 14 got his first of the day after what appeared to be a foul on John Leatham.  Granemore's number 8 added to this a minute later and a terrific cross field pass led to their number 15 scoring from another point from play. 
John Toal converted a free then from a very acute angle on the right hand side after 37 minutes.  After 3 consecutive wides from Granemore, Shaun Smyth was able to split the posts from a 30 yard free to leave the Tones trailing by a score line of 1-12 to 1-5 after Niall Geoghegan had been pulled to the ground.  This score was almost immediately cancelled out by the Granemore number 14 who scored a point from play after a well worked move in the 41 minute.  The game as a contest ended in the 46 minute when after the Granemore number 13, made a great cut back from the end line and from 8 yards the Granemore number 14 finished to the net with his left foot leaving Tones goal keeper Kieran Murray with no chance. 
In the 49th minute, James Lavery from around 35 yards was able to score his second point of the game and this happened to be the last score either team was able to produce.  The game ended on a rather sour note, when Tones player Emmet Haughian was left badly winded after a high challenge.  Everyone wishes Emmet a speedy recovery. 
The attention for the Tones will now turn to Tuesday night's big home game with Madden where 2 points is vital to try and ensure that the Tones are not dragged into a relegation dogfight.  The Tones lined out as follows: Kieran Murray, John Leatham, Connor McCarron, Chris Megoran, Niall Geoghegan, Ryan McQuillan, Michael Carson, James Lavery, Connor Coleman, Brendan Coleman, Emmet Haughian, John Toal, Chris McAlinden, Michael Crealey

jason o neill was a constant danger throughout the game took his goal very well and chris o connor was very good. match blew up early towards the end but dont think it was a malicious challenge mistimed i think/hope.  bar 4 of our panel the other night everyone is between 17-24.  going be a struggle to stay up.  dont think magill up top it to be honest
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on July 06, 2009, 11:33:27 PM
 very good report charlie , it  was a good game spoiled a bit by some  inconsistant referring , in my view our player went to shoulder the tones lad who turned sharply at the last moment and felt the full force of it , defenifilty not malicious as our player is a very clean player just out of minors last season and fair play to all the granemore players and mentors who stayed on the field until the lad was taken away in the ambulance and everyone from our club wishes him a speedy recovery .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 07, 2009, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 04, 2009, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: crossfire on July 04, 2009, 11:58:05 AM
Division 4
Cross beat Eire Og by 2 points.

Any chance of a Cross Seconds line up Crossfire?

Sorry for the delay Corn as i had internet problems

Paul mc Entee Gareth Rooney Kevin Daly Ciaran Mc Shane Paudie Mc Gahan Colm Dooley Sean Farrelly Tommy Muldoon Gene Hanratty Aidan Dolan Johnny Mc kenna James Moyna Benny Doyle Cormac Clarke James Hughes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 08, 2009, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: crossfire on July 07, 2009, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 04, 2009, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: crossfire on July 04, 2009, 11:58:05 AM
Division 4
Cross beat Eire Og by 2 points.

Any chance of a Cross Seconds line up Crossfire?

Sorry for the delay Corn as i had internet problems

Paul mc Entee Gareth Rooney Kevin Daly Ciaran Mc Shane Paudie Mc Gahan Colm Dooley Sean Farrelly Tommy Muldoon Gene Hanratty Aidan Dolan Johnny Mc kenna James Moyna Benny Doyle Cormac Clarke James Hughes

Crossfire is that Cormac Clarke the guy ya call Willie? I thought he was a decent footballer and a hard we f**ker too :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 08, 2009, 12:05:30 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 08, 2009, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: crossfire on July 07, 2009, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 04, 2009, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: crossfire on July 04, 2009, 11:58:05 AM
Division 4
Cross beat Eire Og by 2 points.

Any chance of a Cross Seconds line up Crossfire?

Sorry for the delay Corn as i had internet problems

Paul mc Entee Gareth Rooney Kevin Daly Ciaran Mc Shane Paudie Mc Gahan Colm Dooley Sean Farrelly Tommy Muldoon Gene Hanratty Aidan Dolan Johnny Mc kenna James Moyna Benny Doyle Cormac Clarke James Hughes

Crossfire is that Cormac Clarke the guy ya call Willie? I thought he was a decent footballer and a hard we f**ker too :D

He is illdecide.  He is Jamie's older brother.  Fine footballer, too food of the sauce and ladies.  Hardy wee fecker?  Not afraid anyway but he was more in the mould of myself and JF, more bulk than most!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 08, 2009, 03:25:03 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 08, 2009, 12:05:30 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 08, 2009, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: crossfire on July 07, 2009, 09:51:54 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 04, 2009, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: crossfire on July 04, 2009, 11:58:05 AM
Division 4
Cross beat Eire Og by 2 points.

Any chance of a Cross Seconds line up Crossfire?

Sorry for the delay Corn as i had internet problems

Paul mc Entee Gareth Rooney Kevin Daly Ciaran Mc Shane Paudie Mc Gahan Colm Dooley Sean Farrelly Tommy Muldoon Gene Hanratty Aidan Dolan Johnny Mc kenna James Moyna Benny Doyle Cormac Clarke James Hughes

Crossfire is that Cormac Clarke the guy ya call Willie? I thought he was a decent footballer and a hard we f**ker too :D

He is illdecide.  He is Jamie's older brother.  Fine footballer, too food of the sauce and ladies.  Hardy wee fecker?  Not afraid anyway but he was more in the mould of myself and JF, more bulk than most!!!!!

I'm told he could have been a very talented player if he stayed away from the sauce? Not many in Cross slip through like that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 08, 2009, 04:54:18 PM
Aye i remember him alright, the we hoor played against us wan day in davitt. He def was a hardy we fecker :D. As you say Corn it's unusual guys go by the wayside up in Cross whereas thats a natural thing to do in Lurgan :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 09, 2009, 11:49:09 AM
1st division should be very interesting from this week on with county players now available. It will be interesting to see if the teams who have not had their county players regularily available pull away from the teams who have no county players all year to affect their panel. who do you think will struggle now? culloville, clans, sarsfields seem to be in the biggest danger of regulation. To prove the point Dromintee won easily last week with players back after struggling the previous game. In the 2nd granemore could make a big push for promotion with Toner and Mc clelland available now. ???      
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 09, 2009, 11:54:45 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 09, 2009, 11:49:09 AM
1st division should be very interesting from this week on with county players now available. It will be interesting to see if the teams who have not had their county players regularily available pull away from the teams who have no county players all year to affect their panel. who do you think will struggle now? culloville, clans, sarsfields seem to be in the biggest danger of regulation. To prove the point Dromintee won easily last week with players back after struggling the previous game. In the 2nd granemore could make a big push for promotion with Toner and Mc clelland available now. ???      

We still had Marty, Shannon out injured and Shane O'Neill was only fit for a half.

Having Aidan, Gareth O'Neill and Vincey Martin was a massive boost though.

We will still struggle, we could be the fall guys this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 09, 2009, 11:57:47 AM
TBH Corn, with the majority of your county players available again Dromintee should pull away & finish well up the league
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 09, 2009, 12:01:02 PM
Quote from: full back on July 09, 2009, 11:57:47 AM
TBH Corn, with the majority of your county players available again Dromintee should pull away & finish well up the league


True.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 09, 2009, 05:11:13 PM
FFS Corn ask yourself...seriously man. Dromintee will not be no where near the bottom come the end of the season...It will be between Culloville, Sarsfields, Clans and Mullaghbawn. I thought Carrickcruppen would have struggled too but they surprised me a bit and having 13pts already means they only need 1 more win to stay up so i think they'll be fine
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on July 09, 2009, 08:30:18 PM
think it will take more than the 14 mark this year illdecide,i was thinkin 16 with the way things have progressed.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 09, 2009, 10:23:09 PM
League is still tight enough. are none of the county players buggering off to america now that armagh are out? What happens if teams are level on points at the end, play offs?? Six pointer on sunday with culloville playing sarsfields!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 09, 2009, 10:59:40 PM
tones madden report from tuesday

Armagh Division 2 League Tuesday 7 July 2009
Wolfe Tones 1-8 Madden 1-11
Wolfe Tones suffered a  3 point defeat to Madden in the league on Tuesday evening and now seem to have found themselves in a relegation dogfight.  The Tones started the game brightly and after an early Chris McAlinden wide, John Toal opened the scoring with a great point.  David Heaney on his return from injury, played a good pass in front of John who turned quickly to evade his man and swing over a great point with his left foot from 30 yards.  Madden immediately went up the field and restored parity when their no.12 equalised after a flowing move.  Things could have got worse for the Tones moments later, when a Madden player bore down on goal only to be denied by a very brave save by Tones keeper Kieran Murray. 
At the other end, John Toal continued to cause havoc for the Madden defence and after he had shot the Tones second wide he was able to get his second of the game from 35 yards in the 6th minute to restore the home sides lead.  In the 8TH minute, John was at it again registering his 3rd point after good approach play by full-forward Stevy Lavery and Chris McAlinden.  Madden then reduced the deficit to the minimum when their number 10 scored a free. 
In the 15th minute the Tones moved further ahead, when the returning Stevy Lavery was able to score a great point hooking the ball over his shoulder from a narrow angle.  The 17th minute came the turning point in the game.  After great awareness from Stevy Lavery, John Toal was put through one-on-one with the Madden keeper who came out to superbly deny John what looked like a certain goal.  From the resulting attack, Madden won a free which their no.11 converted with the outside of the boot from all of 40 yards.  The same player was now having more of an influence on the game and in 22nd minute of the half again chipped over anothe free with some aplomb. 
As in the previous weeks game against Granemore, the Tones players seemed to fall asleep approaching half time.  Madden scored points in the 23rd and 25th minute(no.13/15) and in the 28th minute of the half hit the Tones with a sucker punch when the troublesome no.11, player a pinpoint pass to no.15 who left Tones keeper Kieran Murray with no chance. 
Just on half time the Tones after a great break missed a fine opportunity.  After Niall Geoghegan done some great foraging to win a ball and drive forward, he chose to shoot with Shaun Smith in a great position.  That was the last action of the first half, leaving the Tones trailing by 5 points at the interval. 
Wolfe Tones 0-04 Madden 1-6
Wolfe Tones needed to make a positive start to the second half if they where to achieve anything from this game.  They duely oblidged, when 3 minutes into the second half an accurate cross field pass from David Heaney found Finnian Moriarity who had made a break forward from his centre-half back position and Finnian from 30 yards split the posts.  This was immediately cancelled out by the Madden no.9.  The Tones dominated the next ten minutes of the second half and had the visitors virtually camped in there own half.  Unfortunately the Tones could not make possession count and kicked four wides during this period.  Niall Geoghegan eventually took the bull by the horns in the 41st minute after a free flowing move his fellow halfback Ryan McQuillan supplied him with a fisted pass a Niall converted to leave 3 points between the sides and all to play for. 
After a Chris McAlinden wide, Madden got themselves on the scoreboard after 47 minutes when their big no.25 was afforded too much time in the midfield area and carried the ball forward and kicked a fine score with his left foot.  This seemed to rattle the Tones slightly and less than a minute later the no.15 scored another fine point from play and the game appeared to be up for the home side. 
After 52 minutes Finnian Moriarity made an inspirational break from defence evaded a few challenges and drove the ball to the Madden net from 14 yards.  The Tones now sensed that all was not lost in this game, and after 54 minutes after a Niall Geoghegan pass James Lavery was able to kick a score off his weaker left foot.  This was quickly followed by John Toals first point of the second half and this left just one between them.  Johnny McCarron who had did well since his introduction as a second half substitute, then missed a great chance to draw the sides level when he scuffed his shot from 25 yards. 
Madden then with 2 minutes left on the clock broke away and after Connor McCarron appeared to be pushed in the back the Madden No.11 cut in along the endline and calmly fisted a point.  That seemed to be the end of the game, but after a goal mouth scramble in the dying seconds the Madden keeper somehow managed to push an effort onto the post. 
The Tones focus will now be on the championship game with Collegeland on 26 July in Maghery.  The Tones in this game showed good fight in the closing stages and will need this come championship time in a game, despite recent form they will start as favourites in.   
Tones lineout: Kieran Murray, Michael Carson, Connor McCarron, Chris Megoran, Niall Geoghegan, Finnian Moriarity, Ryan McQuillan, Conor Coleman, David Heaney, Brendan Coleman, Chris McAlinden, James Lavery, John Toal, Stevy Lavery and Shaun Smith: Subs Johnny McCarron for Chris Megoran
Full time
Wolfe Tones 1-8 Madden 1-10

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sickboy on July 09, 2009, 11:00:48 PM
they can go to america if they want but they wont be playing football, croke park has the signing deadline the week before the back door starts. ballymacnab beat tir na og tonight 0-12 to 1-5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 09, 2009, 11:09:27 PM
ARMAGH ACL TABLES AS AT SUNDAY 5 JULY

Div. I
          P   W   D    L   Pts
Crossmaglen      12   12   0     0   24   
Carrickcruppen   12     6   1     5   13
Pearse Og      12     6   1     5   13
Dromintee      12     6   0     6   12
Killeavy      12     5   1     6   11
Mullaghbawn      12     5   1     6   11
St Patrick's      12     5   1     6   11
Clan na Gael      12     4   1     7     9
Sarsfields      12     4   1     7     9
Culloville      12     3   1     8     7

Div. II
          P   W   D    L   Pts
Maghery      12   12   0     0   24
Whitecross      12   11   0     1   22
Granemore      11     8   0     3   16
Ballymacnab      10     6   1     3   13
Harps         12     6   1     5   13
Clann Eireann      12     5   1     6   11
Tir na nÓg      12     5   1     6   11
Madden      12     4   2     6   10
Silverbridge      12     2   3     7     7
Wolfe Tone      12     1   4     7     6
Ballyhegan      13     2   1   10     5
St Michael's      12     1   2     9     4

Div. III
          P   W   D    L   Pts
Keady         12   11   0     1   22
St Peter's      12     8   1     3   17
St Paul's      13     8   0     5   16
Middletown      11     7   0     4   14
Belleek      12     6   1     5   13
Clonmore      12     5   2     5   12
Shane O'Neill's   12     5   1     6   11
Collegeland      10     4   0     6     8
Annaghmore      12     4   0     8     8
Tullysaran      12     3   2     7     8
An Port Mor      11     3   1     7     7
Lissummon      12     2   2     8     6
     
Div. IV
          P   W   D    L   Pts
Crossmaglen II   12   10   0     2   20
Eire Og      12   10   0     2   20
Forkhill      12   10   0     2   20
Corrinshego      12     8   0     4   16
Grange         12     7   2     3   16
Dorsey Emmett's   12     7   0     5   14
Derrynoose      12     4   3     5   11
Clady         12     4   2     6   10
Mullaghbrack      11     3   0     8     6
O'Hanlon's      12     2   2     8     6
Phelim Brady's   12     1   1   10     3
Killean         11     0   0   11     0

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 10, 2009, 09:44:39 AM
As all the teams at the bottom of Div II seem to be losing every game... Does that make Madden virtually safe?

They're definately favourites to stay up now. IMO 2 from the bottom 4 will go.

I'm not sure what the fixtures are like, but I know Ballyhegan have played 4 of the top 6 teams twice already.

Div III looks a real scrap. It'll be a disasster for a few of those teams to get relegated to the bottom division.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 10, 2009, 10:38:53 AM
we still have the following left goats

Home: bhegan, tir na nog, whitecross, harps, Maghery, silverbridge
away: Maghery, whitecross, newtown

at home can see us beating ballyhegan, the bridge, pdown and possibly winning away to newtown as we have goodrecord there.  hard see where any other points coming from.  relegation may not be worst thing though aqs we have a very very young team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 10, 2009, 10:47:05 AM
Although it's tough getting beat most weeks, it's always better for the younger players to be 'blooded' against these better teams i feel.

The only thing about the teams you are targetting for points... those teams will aslo be targetting you for points!  :-\

We're in the same boat!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on July 10, 2009, 09:29:16 PM
granemore bt st michaels 13 - 10 , woeful game of football , poorly refeered but a wins a win . :) .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 10, 2009, 09:57:03 PM
Cross 0-14 Dromintee 0-11

Fair enough, Cross probably had an extra gear if they needed, but condiering the amount we were missing that is a better than expected result. Some Dromintee players were very good tonight, fair play, I was expecting a bit of a bhammering the way Cross have been going.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 10, 2009, 10:14:08 PM
Killeavy 4-11 Clan na Gael 6-11  ;D ;D ;D

Great match. Clans travelled down with only about 18/19 of a panel, which makes the victory all the more sweeter. Killeavy dominated early on and at one stage led by 7. Must have been great for the neutrals, 10 goal thriller, Clans opening the goalfest after about ten mins. Killeavy however went straight up and scored one of their own to open up the gulf to 7 between the teams. Clans fought back and pegged it back to 3 points going into the break.

Second half was more or less all Clans, although at the beginning the teams traded goals, it could have went either way. Clans showed great determination however and ran the Killeavy full back line ragged. Once Clans got the 5th goal Killeavy heads dropped, and the blues finished strongly to win by 6. Great team performance.

N.B. Stefan Campbell, still a minor lorded something like 3-04/3-05 of the Clans' total. Armagh minor management should be begging him to join.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 10, 2009, 10:39:31 PM
Any div 3 results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 10, 2009, 10:51:55 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 10, 2009, 10:14:08 PM
Killeavy 4-11 Clan na Gael 6-11  ;D ;D ;D

Great match. Clans travelled down with only about 18/19 of a panel, which makes the victory all the more sweeter. Killeavy dominated early on and at one stage led by 7. Must have been great for the neutrals, 10 goal thriller, Clans opening the goalfest after about ten mins. Killeavy however went straight up and scored one of their own to open up the gulf to 7 between the teams. Clans fought back and pegged it back to 3 points going into the break.

Second half was more or less all Clans, although at the beginning the teams traded goals, it could have went either way. Clans showed great determination however and ran the Killeavy full back line ragged. Once Clans got the 5th goal Killeavy heads dropped, and the blues finished strongly to win by 6. Great team performance.

N.B. Stefan Campbell, still a minor lorded something like 3-04/3-05 of the Clans' total. Armagh minor management should be begging him to join.

Is that the fella who was threw off the panel due to disciplinary reasons?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 10, 2009, 11:47:54 PM
Yeh same lad. To be fair, he is an exceptional talent, and should IMO be asked back to the panel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 11, 2009, 09:34:02 AM
Harps drew in Maghery 0-9 to 1-6.  We could have nicked it near the end but Maghery missed enough chances to win the second half, but were also beneficiaries of a dodgy penalty in the first half.  Entertaining game and Harps showed plenty of fight with a depleted squad (again), we travelled with 18 players and didn't see fit to use a sub which says it all really.  Vernon added much needed steel and quality at CHB, but still doesn't look 100% fit.  Considering Maghery came to Abbey Pk a while back and give us a 12pt hammering we are now showing a bit more cohesion approaching championiship time, which is good to see.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 11, 2009, 10:25:12 AM
so cross have now won the league. who had dromintee missing corn? is it true that two players are going stateside?

clans picking up valuable points, 6 -11 is some scoring. killeavy defence has been very shakey this last while.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 11, 2009, 10:32:11 AM
It is silly really that a club can be so dominant that it has the league won before the middle of July and that is with half a team.  From what I can read of it too most of the games were won at a canter.  Can anyone tell me when was the last time, league or championship that a team in Armagh actually beat Cross?  Obviously they will not want to lose any games but with 5 left it is a great time for them to blend in more youngsters and give the Fra McNamee's as much game time as possible and keep the older legs fresher for the championship coming up.

Now with Armagh out when is the championship due to be started?  At least there wil be no issue of it running late like it has done in previous years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 11, 2009, 10:34:26 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 11, 2009, 10:32:11 AM
Now with Armagh out when is the championship due to be started?  At least there wil be no issue of it running late like it has done in previous years.

championship is on 14th, 15th and 16th of august, then 5th,6th, 12th and 13th or September, semis are 25th and 26th and final 3 weeks after that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 11, 2009, 10:57:44 AM

Decent game against cross last night between what were two very depleted teams. dromintee don't normally compete that well when down in numbers so that was encouraging. i think cross were missing paul kernan, aaron kernan, steven kernan, john murtagh, paul mckeown, jamie clarke and david McKenna - the last three came on in the second half. dromintee were missing martin o'rourke, aidan o'rourke, shane o'neill, oliver gaughran, shane carroll, miceal o'rourke and gareth o'neill - the last two are gone to the states and i'm assuming won't be back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 11, 2009, 11:06:07 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on July 11, 2009, 10:57:44 AM

Decent game against cross last night between what were two very depleted teams. dromintee don't normally compete that well when down in numbers so that was encouraging. i think cross were missing paul kernan, aaron kernan, steven kernan, john murtagh, paul mckeown, jamie clarke and david McKenna - the last three came on in the second half. dromintee were missing martin o'rourke, aidan o'rourke, shane o'neill, oliver gaughran, shane carroll, miceal o'rourke and gareth o'neill - the last two are gone to the states and i'm assuming won't be back.

how come these boys weren't playin? (other than the two thats went to america)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 11, 2009, 11:10:16 AM

don't know. injury i assume?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 11, 2009, 11:40:45 AM
Clann Eireann beat the 'bridge.  4or 5 points in it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 11, 2009, 11:44:58 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 10, 2009, 10:14:08 PM
Killeavy 4-11 Clan na Gael 6-11  ;D ;D ;D

Great match. Clans travelled down with only about 18/19 of a panel, which makes the victory all the more sweeter. Killeavy dominated early on and at one stage led by 7. Must have been great for the neutrals, 10 goal thriller, Clans opening the goalfest after about ten mins. Killeavy however went straight up and scored one of their own to open up the gulf to 7 between the teams. Clans fought back and pegged it back to 3 points going into the break.

Second half was more or less all Clans, although at the beginning the teams traded goals, it could have went either way. Clans showed great determination however and ran the Killeavy full back line ragged. Once Clans got the 5th goal Killeavy heads dropped, and the blues finished strongly to win by 6. Great team performance.

N.B. Stefan Campbell, still a minor lorded something like 3-04/3-05 of the Clans' total. Armagh minor management should be begging him to join.

fitzroyalty you must have been playing in the clans defence  ;D

saw that lad a few times good player, but heard his attitude at minor trials left alot to be desired.  hear say obviously and should be taken with a pinch of salt, but though armagh minors have an abundance of talent def think there room for that ladon panel. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 11, 2009, 11:46:47 AM
The country is littered with talented boys with poor attitudes, it's the attitude that makes the difference.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 11, 2009, 12:01:20 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 11, 2009, 11:46:47 AM
The country is littered with talented boys with poor attitudes, it's the attitude that makes the difference.

fair enough point, but from what i have saw of this lad and repoprts i have been hearing maybe he has a little bit more talent that most at his age.  3-4 or 3-5 in a division one game some scoring and think got 1-3 he cullaville the other week. 

though baker bradleys approach seems to be working for antrim and the armagh lads have done great so far so who am i to argue!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 11, 2009, 12:19:56 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 11, 2009, 11:44:58 AM
fitzroyalty you must have been playing in the clans defence  ;D

saw that lad a few times good player, but heard his attitude at minor trials left alot to be desired.  hear say obviously and should be taken with a pinch of salt, but though armagh minors have an abundance of talent def think there room for that ladon panel. 
Au contraur, causing trouble at the other end  ;)
I'll be first to admit his attitude in the past has been poor but as of late his form is too good to be ignored
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 11, 2009, 01:30:01 PM

Did that campbell lad play against dromintee last week?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 11, 2009, 02:28:05 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on July 11, 2009, 10:57:44 AM

Decent game against cross last night between what were two very depleted teams. dromintee don't normally compete that well when down in numbers so that was encouraging. i think cross were missing paul kernan, aaron kernan, steven kernan, john murtagh, paul mckeown, jamie clarke and david McKenna - the last three came on in the second half. dromintee were missing martin o'rourke, aidan o'rourke, shane o'neill, oliver gaughran, shane carroll, miceal o'rourke and gareth o'neill - the last two are gone to the states and i'm assuming won't be back.

They will be back when the season in the states is over which should be late August/early september.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 11, 2009, 05:39:49 PM

nope - new york championship doesn't finish til end of september
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 11, 2009, 07:06:24 PM
Well they only have 60 day transfers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 11, 2009, 09:07:28 PM

That only specifies how long it is before they can play with their home club again. they can play way longer than 60 days in usa - as long as they like this season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 11, 2009, 09:57:22 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on July 11, 2009, 09:07:28 PM

That only specifies how long it is before they can play with their home club again. they can play way longer than 60 days in usa - as long as they like this season

Indeed, the 60-day rule prevents them transferring to another club, they don't have to renew it to saty on.

Let's hope for a few losses huh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on July 11, 2009, 09:58:25 PM
Rule 43 T.O. 2008
Playing in U.S.A./Canada/Australasia
(a) A weekend Authorisation is required by any player intending to assist a Club in a game under the jurisdiction of the New York Board or the European Board. The Official Authorisation, in duplicate, requires the signatures of the player's Home Club
Secretary and the County Secretary, and must be presented for signature by the Director General (or other designated person) in Croke Park before 4 p.m. on the Wednesday before the game.

An Authorisation is valid for one weekend only other than where there is a replay of the game for which the Authorisation was granted.

The maximum number of authorised players to assist a Club in any weekend shall be two in Football and three in Hurling.

(b) (i) A player intending to play on a longer term basis in the area governed by one of the following  Boards - the New York Board, the North American County Board, the Canadian Board or the Australasian Board - must obtain an Official Sanction in duplicate, signed by his Club Secretary, the County Secretary and the Director General (or other designated person).
(ii) A sanction shall entitle a player to play with a club in either the New York, Canadian or North American Board areas from 1st March to the end of October in any one year.
(iii) A Sanction shall not be granted after the 1st July for players intending to play in the Canadian Board or the North American County Board areas, or after the 20th July for players intending to play in the New York area.
(iv) In the case of a player intending to play in the Australasian Board area, a sanction shall be for a twelve month period from the date of approval in Croke Park.
(v) A player who has received a Sanction shall not be eligible to play again with his Club in Ireland for the 60 days after the date of approval of his Sanction in Croke Park, but is eligible to play with his County.
(vi) Other than in exceptional circumstances, to be defined by Central Council, a Sanctioned player who returns to Ireland may not subsequently return to resume playing in America or Canada in the same year.
(vii) The number of Sanctioned Players permitted for any Club in the North American County Board Area shall be as follows: -
- A Club with one team - a maximum of ten
- A Club with a second team - a further eight
- A Club with a third team - a further six
In addition, a Club may also avail of the services of Players who have a valid current J1 Visa, as well as a sanction.
In the case of the Canadian Board Area, the maximum number of Sanctioned Players per club shall be ten.
In the case of New York, the maximum number of Sanctioned Players per team shall be six.
(viii) All Sanctioned players shall have the same status regardless of when they travel.
(ix) A player who has received a Sanction may not, in the same year, transfer to a Club in Britain (unless qualified under Rule 39), Europe or Australasia.
(x) A player may receive only one Sanction in any Calendar Year.
Exception: A Player who played on a Sanction in the North American County Board or New York or Canadian Board Area Jurisdictions may obtain a sanction to play in the Australasian Board Area.
(c) (i) A player who remains permanently (i.e. beyond one Playing Season) in the North American County
Board or Canadian Board Areas shall be eligible to obtain an Inter-County transfer. Applications for such transfer shall be lodged in Croke Park by January 1st in any year.
(ii) A player who remains in the Australasian Board Area after the expiry of his sanction shall require an intercounty transfer to continue playing there in competitions.
(iii) In the case of a player moving permanently to the Area under the jurisdiction of the New York Board, a transfer shall be necessary.
A player shall be considered to have moved permanently after he has been a minimum of four weeks in the new jurisdiction.
Penalty: For infringement of this Rule - 24 weeks suspension.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 11, 2009, 10:00:59 PM
Can't  be arsed reading that Carbery, what's the issue anyway?

I doubt many clubs adhere to those guidelines anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 12, 2009, 04:14:21 PM
Pearse Ógs 2-12 St Pat's 1-11

Attractive enough match. Thought we did very well in the first half against a very strong Ógs side. Mal Mackin opened the scoring with a goal when the goalkeeper (was that Ciaran McKinney?) badly misjudged the flight of an attempted point. We played some nice stuff int he first half and were worth our 2 point lead at half time which could have been more had Ciaran McKeever converted a penalty when the goalkeeper dragged down our forward as he was about to score a goal. Ógs were dangerous as well with their number 15 (conor clarke or was he 13?) getting a Pearse Ógs goal.

Ronan Clarke switched to full forward at half time and Ógs started to do us a lot of damage. A goal from their number 15 after some slack defending was the crucial score of the match. Ógs were certainly the better side in the second half but I thought we were very unfortunate to have a goal disallowed with about 10 minutes left. There were 4 points in it at that stage and I felt it was a very soft free out to Ógs. Wasn't too bad a performance from Cullyhanna - that's a very good Pearse Ógs side who I'd expect to make another good run in the championship.


By my reckoning we have 5 matches left - Cross, Sarsfields, Killeavy and Cruppen at home and Clans away. Hopefully the decent number of home matches left will help us towards safety, crucial games against Sarsfields, Killeavy and Cruppen to avoid the drop. Win thsoe 3 and we'll be safe.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on July 12, 2009, 04:14:43 PM
Cruppen beat Mullaghbawn by 4 points, big game now for us on fri night against Clans, 4 pointer!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 12, 2009, 04:16:30 PM
Pearse Ogs 2-12 St Pats 1-11

An entertaining game of football today.  Half time score was Ogs 1-06 St Pats 1-08

St Pat's dominated the first half and the ogs were lucky to go in just 2 points down.

The roles were reversed in the second half with the Ogs opening with 1-02 to no score in the first 10 mins.  It was a free flowing game and a good win for the Ogs.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 12, 2009, 04:21:31 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 12, 2009, 04:14:21 PM
Pearse Ógs 2-12 St Pat's 1-11

Attractive enough match. Thought we did very well in the first half against a very strong Ógs side. Mal Mackin opened the scoring with a goal when the goalkeeper (was that Ciaran McKinney?) badly misjudged the flight of an attempted point. We played some nice stuff int he first half and were worth our 2 point lead at half time which could have been more had Ciaran McKeever converted a penalty when the goalkeeper dragged down our forward as he was about to score a goal. Ógs were dangerous as well with their number 15 (conor clarke or was he 13?) getting a Pearse Ógs goal.

Ronan Clarke switched to full forward at half time and Ógs started to do us a lot of damage. A goal from their number 15 after some slack defending was the crucial score of the match. Ógs were certainly the better side in the second half but I thought we were very unfortunate to have a goal disallowed with about 10 minutes left. There were 4 points in it at that stage and I felt it was a very soft free out to Ógs. Wasn't too bad a performance from Cullyhanna - that's a very good Pearse Ógs side who I'd expect to make another good run in the championship.


By my reckoning we have 5 matches left - Cross, Sarsfields, Killeavy and Cruppen at home and Clans away. Hopefully the decent number of home matches left will help us towards safety, crucial games against Sarsfields, Killeavy and Cruppen to avoid the drop. Win thsoe 3 and we'll be safe.

Yes it was Ciaran McKinney with an uncharacteristic error to let the first goal in.  He did well though to pick himself up for the penatly save.

The disallowed goal in the last ten was given after one of your forwards hauled Paul Duffy by the neck resulting in St Pats getting the ball.  The ref had blown the whistle just before the shot on goal.  If he hadn't blown for the free it would has made it a very nervous last few minutes.

Who was the no. 14 for St Pats today?  he seemed to be very sharp
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 12, 2009, 04:41:10 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 12, 2009, 04:21:31 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 12, 2009, 04:14:21 PM
Pearse Ógs 2-12 St Pat's 1-11

Attractive enough match. Thought we did very well in the first half against a very strong Ógs side. Mal Mackin opened the scoring with a goal when the goalkeeper (was that Ciaran McKinney?) badly misjudged the flight of an attempted point. We played some nice stuff int he first half and were worth our 2 point lead at half time which could have been more had Ciaran McKeever converted a penalty when the goalkeeper dragged down our forward as he was about to score a goal. Ógs were dangerous as well with their number 15 (conor clarke or was he 13?) getting a Pearse Ógs goal.

Ronan Clarke switched to full forward at half time and Ógs started to do us a lot of damage. A goal from their number 15 after some slack defending was the crucial score of the match. Ógs were certainly the better side in the second half but I thought we were very unfortunate to have a goal disallowed with about 10 minutes left. There were 4 points in it at that stage and I felt it was a very soft free out to Ógs. Wasn't too bad a performance from Cullyhanna - that's a very good Pearse Ógs side who I'd expect to make another good run in the championship.


By my reckoning we have 5 matches left - Cross, Sarsfields, Killeavy and Cruppen at home and Clans away. Hopefully the decent number of home matches left will help us towards safety, crucial games against Sarsfields, Killeavy and Cruppen to avoid the drop. Win thsoe 3 and we'll be safe.

Yes it was Ciaran McKinney with an uncharacteristic error to let the first goal in.  He did well though to pick himself up for the penatly save.

The disallowed goal in the last ten was given after one of your forwards hauled Paul Duffy by the neck resulting in St Pats getting the ball.  The ref had blown the whistle just before the shot on goal.  If he hadn't blown for the free it would has made it a very nervous last few minutes.

Who was the no. 14 for St Pats today?  he seemed to be very sharp

Fair enough, I thought it was given for a push as Paudie broke the ball down. Forget what happened before the ball came in.

Gary McCooey was number 14 - had an excellent game though was fighting a bit of a lone battle in the full forward line at time - only 19 or so, one of our better prospects.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 12, 2009, 04:42:58 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on July 12, 2009, 04:14:43 PM
Cruppen beat Mullaghbawn by 4 points, big game now for us on fri night against Clans, 4 pointer!

brutal match, half time was 1 -1 to 4 points. final score 10 points to 1-3. mullaghban had 12 or 13 men behind the ball. they are very difficult to play against and even worse to watch.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 12, 2009, 05:00:58 PM
any news from culloville sarsfields?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 12, 2009, 05:01:44 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 12, 2009, 04:41:10 PM

Gary McCooey was number 14 - had an excellent game though was fighting a bit of a lone battle in the full forward line at time - only 19 or so, one of our better prospects.

He had a good game, I was surprised at him being moved out to the half forward line where he became more anonymous.  He had won you a right bit of possession and frees in the full forward line
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on July 12, 2009, 09:37:45 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 12, 2009, 05:00:58 PM
any news from culloville sarsfields?


ARMAGH CLUB RESULTS FOR  SUNDAY 12 JULY 2009

Sunday 12 July
ACL – Div. I
Mullaghbawn 1-3; Carrickcruppen 0-10
Culloville 2-10; Sarsfields 4-6
Pearse Og 2-12; St Patrick's 1-11

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 12, 2009, 09:39:50 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 12, 2009, 05:00:58 PM
any news from culloville sarsfields?

Cullaville 2-10  Sarsfields 4-06

One of the Sarsfields players had to be taken to hospital in an ambulance according to Orchardcounty
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 12, 2009, 11:18:00 PM
After todays result its hard to look past culloville for relegation.. Above that, 5 teams on 11 pts and dromintee on 12 should make the next few weeks very interesting
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 13, 2009, 12:22:41 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 11, 2009, 10:32:11 AM
It is silly really that a club can be so dominant that it has the league won before the middle of July and that is with half a team.  From what I can read of it too most of the games were won at a canter.  Can anyone tell me when was the last time, league or championship that a team in Armagh actually beat Cross?  Obviously they will not want to lose any games but with 5 left it is a great time for them to blend in more youngsters and give the Fra McNamee's as much game time as possible and keep the older legs fresher for the championship coming up.

Now with Armagh out when is the championship due to be started?  At least there wil be no issue of it running late like it has done in previous years.


Take your face for a shite BC1 - in 2006 Clans had division 1 wrapped up with 7 games to go and there was no accusation of sillyness but when Cross do it all of a sudden the league is discredited.  >:( >:( And your c**k that it has been with half a team all yous have been missing really is the Kernans and IMO Tony and Stephen are f**king duds anyway! Cross have had the Macs and Oisin, Francie etc full time this year so yous have been much stronger than in previous league campaigns as these are the players that actually win matches for yous so grow up you pretentious p***k!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 13, 2009, 12:58:36 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 13, 2009, 12:22:41 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 11, 2009, 10:32:11 AM
It is silly really that a club can be so dominant that it has the league won before the middle of July and that is with half a team.  From what I can read of it too most of the games were won at a canter.  Can anyone tell me when was the last time, league or championship that a team in Armagh actually beat Cross?  Obviously they will not want to lose any games but with 5 left it is a great time for them to blend in more youngsters and give the Fra McNamee's as much game time as possible and keep the older legs fresher for the championship coming up.

Now with Armagh out when is the championship due to be started?  At least there wil be no issue of it running late like it has done in previous years.


  >:( >:( And your c**k that it has been with half a team

Indeed BC, stop making accusations with your c**k.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 13, 2009, 01:16:43 PM
Speaking of cocks.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 13, 2009, 02:46:15 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 13, 2009, 01:16:43 PM
Speaking of cocks.....

Yessssssssss?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 13, 2009, 02:49:51 PM
                 PLD   WON   DRAW   LOST   POINTS
CROSS              13   13   0   0   26
CRUPPEN                   13   7   1   5   15
PEARSE OG   13   7   1   5   15
DROMINTEE   13   6   0   7   12
CLANS                   13   6   1   6   11
CULLYHANNA   13   5   1   7   11
KILLEAVY                   13   5   1   7   11
MULLAGHBAWN   13   5   1   7   11
SARSFIELDS   13   5   1   7   11
CULLOVILLE   13   3   1   9   7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 13, 2009, 04:21:48 PM
Cruppen and Ogs are near in the safe zone now.

I din;t realise we were only one point above the rest, so we are deep in it too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 13, 2009, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 13, 2009, 12:22:41 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 11, 2009, 10:32:11 AM
It is silly really that a club can be so dominant that it has the league won before the middle of July and that is with half a team.  From what I can read of it too most of the games were won at a canter.  Can anyone tell me when was the last time, league or championship that a team in Armagh actually beat Cross?  Obviously they will not want to lose any games but with 5 left it is a great time for them to blend in more youngsters and give the Fra McNamee's as much game time as possible and keep the older legs fresher for the championship coming up.

Now with Armagh out when is the championship due to be started?  At least there wil be no issue of it running late like it has done in previous years.


Take your face for a shite BC1 - in 2006 Clans had division 1 wrapped up with 7 games to go and there was no accusation of sillyness but when Cross do it all of a sudden the league is discredited.  >:( >:( And your c**k that it has been with half a team all yous have been missing really is the Kernans and IMO Tony and Stephen are f**king duds anyway! Cross have had the Macs and Oisin, Francie etc full time this year so yous have been much stronger than in previous league campaigns as these are the players that actually win matches for yous so grow up you pretentious p***k!

You know you could easily have made your point without the abuse. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 13, 2009, 07:20:47 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 13, 2009, 02:49:51 PM
                 PLD   WON   DRAW   LOST   POINTS
CROSS              13   13   0   0   26
CRUPPEN                   13   7   1   5   15
PEARSE OG   13   7   1   5   15
DROMINTEE   13   6   0   7   12
CLANS                   13   6   1   6   11
CULLYHANNA   13   5   1   7   11
KILLEAVY                   13   5   1   7   11
MULLAGHBAWN   13   5   1   7   11
SARSFIELDS   13   5   1   7   11
CULLOVILLE   13   3   1   9   7


Do Clans have 11 or 13 points? (Their wins tally in that table suggests 13).

Very very tight. it'd be wrong to say Culloville are doomed but certainly they're in a very difficult position. A relegation play off looks like a distinct possibility. I can't see Clans or Dromintee going down and I'm hopeful that our 4 home games might be enough to save us. I'd think that Sarsfield or Mullaghbán and Culloville will be the pair to go down though I've been writing off Mullaghbán all year yet they continue to pick up points, including 4 against ourselves!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 13, 2009, 07:29:12 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 13, 2009, 07:20:47 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 13, 2009, 02:49:51 PM
                 PLD   WON   DRAW   LOST   POINTS
CROSS              13   13   0   0   26
CRUPPEN                   13   7   1   5   15
PEARSE OG   13   7   1   5   15
DROMINTEE   13   6   0   7   12
CLANS                   13   6   1   6   11
CULLYHANNA   13   5   1   7   11
KILLEAVY                   13   5   1   7   11
MULLAGHBAWN   13   5   1   7   11
SARSFIELDS   13   5   1   7   11
CULLOVILLE   13   3   1   9   7


Do Clans have 11 or 13 points? (Their wins tally in that table suggests 13).

Very very tight. it'd be wrong to say Culloville are doomed but certainly they're in a very difficult position. A relegation play off looks like a distinct possibility. I can't see Clans or Dromintee going down and I'm hopeful that our 4 home games might be enough to save us. I'd think that Sarsfield or Mullaghbán and Culloville will be the pair to go down though I've been writing off Mullaghbán all year yet they continue to pick up points, including 4 against ourselves!

Make no mistake about it TAC, we could go down.

4 games, three away and one of those against Cross.

We never play well against Mullaghbawn away, usually seems to be home takes the win, Sarsfields gave us a tanking at home when we had a full enough team and Killeavy turned us over at home last year. I'll be taking nothing for granted.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 13, 2009, 08:24:46 PM
On that table any of the teams bar probably the top 3 could go down.  I think From Cullyhanna up should be safe and I reckon Mullaghbawn will survive.  Killeavey have the players to stay up and their experience will be important (with Sarsfields lack of experience being a major factor).  So the bottom 2 will go down.

IVEDECIDED, good on ye.  I sense something missing in your life, love, friendship, education?????  Anyway, keep that anger festering, it will drive you on to greater and bigger things :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 13, 2009, 09:29:14 PM
No the Clans are on 11pts with 5 wins, 1 draw and 7 defeats. We have Mullaghbawn home this fri night, killeavey (H), Cruppin (A), OG's (A) and St Pats at home not particular in that order but def home to Bawn on Fri night. It is gonna be a dog fight to see who stays up alright.

Cross should be ok :P, so should OGs, Cruppin and St Pats after that take your pick. I think Culloville are snookered as they have lost like 9 or 10 games in a row and are 4 pts adrift with only 5 games to go.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 13, 2009, 09:36:53 PM
i certainly don't envy the teams who have to play either or all of Cross, Dromintee Ogs in their remaining games. Clans have the supposed luxury of 3 home games (though our best performances this year have been away for some reason) so I'd like to think we could avoid the drop
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 14, 2009, 01:51:44 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on July 13, 2009, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 13, 2009, 12:22:41 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 11, 2009, 10:32:11 AM
It is silly really that a club can be so dominant that it has the league won before the middle of July and that is with half a team.  From what I can read of it too most of the games were won at a canter.  Can anyone tell me when was the last time, league or championship that a team in Armagh actually beat Cross?  Obviously they will not want to lose any games but with 5 left it is a great time for them to blend in more youngsters and give the Fra McNamee's as much game time as possible and keep the older legs fresher for the championship coming up.

Now with Armagh out when is the championship due to be started?  At least there wil be no issue of it running late like it has done in previous years.



Take your face for a shite BC1 - in 2006 Clans had division 1 wrapped up with 7 games to go and there was no accusation of sillyness but when Cross do it all of a sudden the league is discredited.  >:( >:( And your c**k that it has been with half a team all yous have been missing really is the Kernans and IMO Tony and Stephen are f**king duds anyway! Cross have had the Macs and Oisin, Francie etc full time this year so yous have been much stronger than in previous league campaigns as these are the players that actually win matches for yous so grow up you pretentious p***k!

You know you could easily have made your point without the abuse. 


Sorry Fr. Pints - of course your right but where would the fun be in that? And to you BC1 your perfectly correct there is a hell of alot missing in my life. The only pleasure I have left is roaring random abuse at Cross c***ts on this board so please dont take it away from me my friend!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 14, 2009, 03:40:32 PM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR FRIDAY 17 JULY 2009

Friday 17 July
ACL – Div. I (7.30)
Carrickcruppen v Pearse Og (Noel Martin)
Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn (Paul Rath)
Crossmaglen v Killeavy (Ronan Quigley)
Culloville v Dromintee (Stephen Murray)
St Patrick's v Sarsfields (Jimmy McKee)
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
Lissummon v Tullysaran (Dessie McDonnell)
ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Killean v Mullaghbrack (Jim Lynch)



Big game for you Corn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 14, 2009, 03:46:01 PM
Massive, our win there last year was a very important one and the first time we won there in a few years.

Do they still play at the new pitch?

Win that and we are joining Ogs and Crups in the 'nearly there' bracket. I'd say every other team involved in the relegation scrap will be cheering us on, which will be strange.  :P

Still a good few men down so it should be tight. A loss and we are in trouble big style. Show the same hunger as we did against Cross and we should come through it.

What about Cross? I was going to say will they rest a lot of players for the Killeavy match? But there second string walloped Killeavy earlier in the year so I can't see them getting anything, so they should be worried too.

Cruppen v Ogs is just a race for second and I expect Camlough to win it, they are playing really good football this year.

Clans and Mullaghbawn has the obvious implications.

Sarsfields have hit four oals away to us and Cullaville so St Pats should be careful. A Cullyhanna win will leave Sarsfields with a real uphill battle.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 15, 2009, 12:25:56 AM
it depends who culloville are playing that determines what pitch they play on. cruppen played them on the new field at the start of the year but i think they played sarsfields on the old one. I would imagine they will play dromintee on the new field all the same.

i think the permutations leave it that not all the teams on 11 points can finish with more than 16 points so one more win will see cruppen and ogs definately safe, for culloville to catch either of these two they need to win all and cruppen and ogs to lose all games, which i cant see happening.

anyone going to watch clans and mullaghban, expect a dour, low scoring match with mullaghban playing almost everyone behind the ball. Cross will hopefully try to go unbeaten from a cruppen perspective as we have already played them twice. Worst thing for some teams is for them to play their "secong string" as these are all lads looking to break into the championship team. If st pats can stop the goals they should beat sarsfields but thats easier said than done.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 10:58:11 AM
Quote from: full back on July 14, 2009, 03:40:32 PM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR FRIDAY 17 JULY 2009

Friday 17 July
ACL – Div. I (7.30)
Carrickcruppen v Pearse Og (Noel Martin)     Draw
Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn (Paul Rath)       Clans (i hope)
Crossmaglen v Killeavy (Ronan Quigley)        Cross
Culloville v Dromintee (Stephen Murray)       Dromintee
St Patrick's v Sarsfields (Jimmy McKee)        Sarsfields

Cruppin game was hard to call so i sat on the fence there
Clans game will be a tough wan and a rehearsal for the championship never mind div 1 survival, Clans to win by 1. P.S. who is Paul Rath (ref), never heard of him ???
Cross to win by 5pts
Dromintee should win by 4-5pts
St Pats v Sarsfields will be a tough wan and i called Sarsfields for the simple reason is they are scoring plenty of goals at the minute and with J McKee refereeing and him very picky this will suit Sarsfields  as Cullyhanna like to be physical and Jimmy will put that out of them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 15, 2009, 11:02:02 AM
Is Paul Rath from the Harps?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 15, 2009, 11:56:15 AM
Quote from: full back on July 15, 2009, 11:02:02 AM
Is Paul Rath from the Harps?
yes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on July 15, 2009, 12:19:14 PM
Quote from: full back on July 15, 2009, 11:02:02 AM
Is Paul Rath from the Harps?

YES!! Brother of current Silverbridge coach/mentor John "Stumpy" Rath...  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 12:43:41 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 15, 2009, 11:56:15 AM
Quote from: full back on July 15, 2009, 11:02:02 AM
Is Paul Rath from the Harps?
yes

aye i'll prob know him when i see him, the name didn't ring a bell with me ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 15, 2009, 12:58:24 PM
Candy is that Stumpy current vice chairman of the Harps, training another team against the harps. The one who always thumps his chest and preaches about pride in the Harps jersey. strange times indeed must be the continued lure of the pound. cant wait to see the next bridge/harps game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on July 15, 2009, 01:18:56 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 15, 2009, 12:58:24 PM
Candy is that Stumpy current vice chairman of the Harps, training another team against the harps. The one who always thumps his chest and preaches about pride in the Harps jersey. strange times indeed must be the continued lure of the pound. cant wait to see the next bridge/harps game.

Would be something similar to the set-up of armagh legend McGeeney training Kildare....  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 15, 2009, 01:22:35 PM
Quote from: Candyman on July 15, 2009, 12:19:14 PM
Quote from: full back on July 15, 2009, 11:02:02 AM
Is Paul Rath from the Harps?

YES!! Brother of current Silverbridge coach/mentor John "Stumpy" Rath...  ;)

Is John at the Bridge?

Illdecide you are picking us based on he performance in Clans, our only decent one bar Cross to date. I would bite your hand off for one-point win never mind ffour or five.

Are there Sunday fixtures?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 15, 2009, 01:23:24 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 15, 2009, 01:22:35 PM
Quote from: Candyman on July 15, 2009, 12:19:14 PM
Quote from: full back on July 15, 2009, 11:02:02 AM
Is Paul Rath from the Harps?

YES!! Brother of current Silverbridge coach/mentor John "Stumpy" Rath...  ;)

Is John at the Bridge?

Illdecide you are picking us based on he performance in Clans, our only decent one bar Cross to date. I would bite your hand off for one-point win never mind ffour or five.

Are there Sunday fixtures?

Ulster Final day Corn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 15, 2009, 01:27:25 PM
Quote from: full back on July 15, 2009, 01:23:24 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 15, 2009, 01:22:35 PM
Quote from: Candyman on July 15, 2009, 12:19:14 PM
Quote from: full back on July 15, 2009, 11:02:02 AM
Is Paul Rath from the Harps?

YES!! Brother of current Silverbridge coach/mentor John "Stumpy" Rath...  ;)

Is John at the Bridge?

Illdecide you are picking us based on he performance in Clans, our only decent one bar Cross to date. I would bite your hand off for one-point win never mind ffour or five.

Are there Sunday fixtures?

Ulster Final day Corn

Of course, head is away witht it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on July 15, 2009, 01:45:57 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 15, 2009, 12:25:56 AM
it depends who culloville are playing that determines what pitch they play on. cruppen played them on the new field at the start of the year but i think they played sarsfields on the old one. I would imagine they will play dromintee on the new field all the same.

i think the permutations leave it that not all the teams on 11 points can finish with more than 16 points so one more win will see cruppen and ogs definately safe, for culloville to catch either of these two they need to win all and cruppen and ogs to lose all games, which i cant see happening.

anyone going to watch clans and mullaghban, expect a dour, low scoring match with mullaghban playing almost everyone behind the ball. Cross will hopefully try to go unbeaten from a cruppen perspective as we have already played them twice. Worst thing for some teams is for them to play their "secong string" as these are all lads looking to break into the championship team. If st pats can stop the goals they should beat sarsfields but thats easier said than done.

Having watched Mullabawn this year they are the most negative team I've ever seen at club level. A limited side who play with 13 men behind the ball any team will struggle to score much against them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 02:12:06 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 15, 2009, 01:22:35 PM
Quote from: Candyman on July 15, 2009, 12:19:14 PM
Quote from: full back on July 15, 2009, 11:02:02 AM
Is Paul Rath from the Harps?

YES!! Brother of current Silverbridge coach/mentor John "Stumpy" Rath...  ;)

Is John at the Bridge?

Illdecide you are picking us based on he performance in Clans, our only decent one bar Cross to date. I would bite your hand off for one-point win never mind ffour or five.

Are there Sunday fixtures?

Well having played against both teams this year (twice) i believe Dromintee to be a better team than Culloville...and with having a few more players available to you now this can only make you lot stronger hence tipping Dromintee to win by 4-5pts ;D and the fact that culloville have lost ten games in a row (i think) wouldn't be great for the old confidence saan ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 15, 2009, 03:08:00 PM
Candy big difference between mc geeney and rath ( ability first ) secondly he doesnt hold a position on club/county committee. ps Whats the story on Peadar will he be taken back with open arms or will his lack of loyalty and commitment stand against him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on July 15, 2009, 05:41:50 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 15, 2009, 01:45:57 PM


anyone going to watch clans and mullaghban, expect a dour, low scoring match with mullaghban playing almost everyone behind the ball. [

Having watched Mullabawn this year they are the most negative team I've ever seen at club level. A limited side who play with 13 men behind the ball any team will struggle to score much against them.
[/quote

peter mc donnell,s not over mullagbawn too is he ?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 15, 2009, 05:42:57 PM
Quote from: torres on July 15, 2009, 05:41:50 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 15, 2009, 01:45:57 PM


anyone going to watch clans and mullaghban, expect a dour, low scoring match with mullaghban playing almost everyone behind the ball. [

Having watched Mullabawn this year they are the most negative team I've ever seen at club level. A limited side who play with 13 men behind the ball any team will struggle to score much against them.
[/quote

peter mc donnell,s not over mullagbawn too is he ?  ;)

No but his influence is evident, although maybe it is enda's influence and not mcdonnells that is evident in both teams....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 15, 2009, 06:59:10 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 15, 2009, 12:25:56 AM
it depends who culloville are playing that determines what pitch they play on. cruppen played them on the new field at the start of the year but i think they played sarsfields on the old one. I would imagine they will play dromintee on the new field all the same.

i think the permutations leave it that not all the teams on 11 points can finish with more than 16 points so one more win will see cruppen and ogs definately safe, for culloville to catch either of these two they need to win all and cruppen and ogs to lose all games, which i cant see happening.

anyone going to watch clans and mullaghban, expect a dour, low scoring match with mullaghban playing almost everyone behind the ball. Cross will hopefully try to go unbeaten from a cruppen perspective as we have already played them twice. Worst thing for some teams is for them to play their "secong string" as these are all lads looking to break into the championship team. If st pats can stop the goals they should beat sarsfields but thats easier said than done.
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if its anything like cship semi final last year shouldnt be a problem st.pats where better all over the field surprised they have struggled this year to be honest as i know had a few good minor teams also recently.  does tasker play any senior football?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 15, 2009, 07:02:37 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 10:58:11 AM
Quote from: full back on July 14, 2009, 03:40:32 PM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR FRIDAY 17 JULY 2009

Friday 17 July
ACL – Div. I (7.30)
Carrickcruppen v Pearse Og (Noel Martin)     Draw
Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn (Paul Rath)       Clans (i hope)
Crossmaglen v Killeavy (Ronan Quigley)        Cross
Culloville v Dromintee (Stephen Murray)       Dromintee
St Patrick's v Sarsfields (Jimmy McKee)        Sarsfields

Cruppin game was hard to call so i sat on the fence there
Clans game will be a tough wan and a rehearsal for the championship never mind div 1 survival, Clans to win by 1. P.S. who is Paul Rath (ref), never heard of him ???
Cross to win by 5pts
Dromintee should win by 4-5pts
St Pats v Sarsfields will be a tough wan and i called Sarsfields for the simple reason is they are scoring plenty of goals at the minute and with J McKee refereeing and him very picky this will suit Sarsfields  as Cullyhanna like to be physical and Jimmy will put that out of them.


il go ogs by the minimum
clans by 3, mullaghbawn seem to lack punch up front clans be buoyed by decent run of late and a great scoring in killeavey
cross, can hardly back any1 else :D
dromintee by 2
cullyhanna by 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 15, 2009, 07:06:18 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 15, 2009, 02:12:06 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 15, 2009, 01:22:35 PM
Quote from: Candyman on July 15, 2009, 12:19:14 PM
Quote from: full back on July 15, 2009, 11:02:02 AM
Is Paul Rath from the Harps?

YES!! Brother of current Silverbridge coach/mentor John "Stumpy" Rath...  ;)

Is John at the Bridge?

Illdecide you are picking us based on he performance in Clans, our only decent one bar Cross to date. I would bite your hand off for one-point win never mind ffour or five.

Are there Sunday fixtures?

Well having played against both teams this year (twice) i believe Dromintee to be a better team than Culloville...and with having a few more players available to you now this can only make you lot stronger hence tipping Dromintee to win by 4-5pts ;D and the fact that culloville have lost ten games in a row (i think) wouldn't be great for the old confidence saan ;)

be good time get them in intermediate next weekend but there not 2 many of the stronger teams in good form either.  def think sarsfields will win it, we should have beat cullaville definately last year in granemore and only started playing last 15 in ballyhegan, beat by 2 i think in end.  dont rate, madden, bridge, newtown either so think it be one of div1 strugglers. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 15, 2009, 07:34:28 PM
Friday 24 July
IFC – 1st Round
St Paul's v Sarsfields at Davitt Park (7.00)  sarsfields by 3 st.pauls wont have the forwards to compete
Clonmore v Silverbridge at Granemore (7.00) bridge to struggle through by 2

Saturday 25 July
IFC – 1st Round
Ballyhegan v Madden at Abbey Park (7.00) madden by 1
Lissummon v St Peter's at Portadown (7.00)st.peters by 3

Sunday 26 July
IFC – 1st Round
Annaghmore v Culloville at Ballymacnab (2.00) cullaville by 8
An Port v St Michael's at Ballymacnab (3.45) st.michaels by 2
Collegeland v Wolfe Tone at Maghery (7.00)tones by 4
Keady v Middletown at Athletic Grounds (7.00)
keady by 5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 16, 2009, 08:02:03 AM
QuoteSaturday 25 July
IFC – 1st Round
Ballyhegan v Madden at Abbey Park (7.00)

That's a joke! One of the lads is getting married that day!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 16, 2009, 09:16:12 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 16, 2009, 08:02:03 AM
QuoteSaturday 25 July
IFC – 1st Round
Ballyhegan v Madden at Abbey Park (7.00)

That's a joke! One of the lads is getting married that day!!

yous be missing many goats
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 16, 2009, 09:19:56 AM
Goats I'm sure your club has asked for the date to be changed or has there been no communication within the club? This fixture date has been out since the end of March. check it out!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 16, 2009, 11:12:49 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 16, 2009, 09:19:56 AM
Goats I'm sure your club has asked for the date to be changed or has there been no communication within the club? This fixture date has been out since the end of March. check it out!!!

It's been changed till the Monday night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 16, 2009, 11:52:31 AM
sweat off goats, chance for a few neutrals to take in the game as its on a Monday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 16, 2009, 11:54:26 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 15, 2009, 06:59:10 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 15, 2009, 12:25:56 AM
it depends who culloville are playing that determines what pitch they play on. cruppen played them on the new field at the start of the year but i think they played sarsfields on the old one. I would imagine they will play dromintee on the new field all the same.

i think the permutations leave it that not all the teams on 11 points can finish with more than 16 points so one more win will see cruppen and ogs definately safe, for culloville to catch either of these two they need to win all and cruppen and ogs to lose all games, which i cant see happening.

anyone going to watch clans and mullaghban, expect a dour, low scoring match with mullaghban playing almost everyone behind the ball. Cross will hopefully try to go unbeaten from a cruppen perspective as we have already played them twice. Worst thing for some teams is for them to play their "secong string" as these are all lads looking to break into the championship team. If st pats can stop the goals they should beat sarsfields but thats easier said than done.
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if its anything like cship semi final last year shouldnt be a problem st.pats where better all over the field surprised they have struggled this year to be honest as i know had a few good minor teams also recently.  does tasker play any senior football?

Our result aren't actually that different to last years really we've won 5, lost 7. Last year at this stage we'd have won about as many as we'd lost. Just a couple of bad results (Culloville and Mullaghbán at home and Cruppen scoring a last minute goal against us) and that fact that our managerial appointment didn't work out have put us in a difficult position.

Tasker's never played for the senior team so far, understandably so as he'd have been far too young last year and obviously Armagh minors come first this year. Would say there's a good chance he'll make an appearance in the championship at some stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 16, 2009, 12:00:03 PM
Tasker is a good player but too arrogant and will need to mellow in the senior ranks before he gets the chop from some seasoned defender. im sure some of your own defenders will put him in check at training.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 16, 2009, 02:21:27 PM
Just saw on orchardcounty a rumour that McDonnell has resigned...Not a reliable source by an stretch of the imagination, anyone hear anything?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 16, 2009, 03:53:59 PM
See a debate on the orchardcounty into the possible restructuring of the divisions. This has previously been mentioned by a member of the county board and should receive some consideration. The idea is to increase the 1st division to 12 teams so as to increase the number of games at the top division, so as to keep matches going longer in the year. It has also been suggested that matches be played only once a week april, august and september on a sunday.This would allow some family time by playing games on a friday or saturday during the months of may, june & july and also attendance of inter-county games. It would also give inter county players more games with their clubs. To facilitate this proposal it has been suggested that the bottom 2 teams in div1 play-off with 3rd and fourth in div 2 with the winners playing in the 1st division therefor increasing it to 12 teams. This would be repeated in division 2 to leave 12 teams in it. Division 3 and 4 would have 11 teams each which would leave one having a bye each week but there would still be 20 games per season. what do you think? no point in wraping leagues up in August each year and sending our players to other sports.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on July 16, 2009, 05:47:53 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 16, 2009, 03:53:59 PM
See a debate on the orchardcounty into the possible restructuring of the divisions. This has previously been mentioned by a member of the county board and should receive some consideration. The idea is to increase the 1st division to 12 teams so as to increase the number of games at the top division, so as to keep matches going longer in the year. It has also been suggested that matches be played only once a week april, august and september on a sunday.This would allow some family time by playing games on a friday or saturday during the months of may, june & july and also attendance of inter-county games. It would also give inter county players more games with their clubs. To facilitate this proposal it has been suggested that the bottom 2 teams in div1 play-off with 3rd and fourth in div 2 with the winners playing in the 1st division therefor increasing it to 12 teams. This would be repeated in division 2 to leave 12 teams in it. Division 3 and 4 would have 11 teams each which would leave one having a bye each week but there would still be 20 games per season. what do you think? no point in wraping leagues up in August each year and sending our players to other sports.

This suggestion would give 10 teams an extra two games and the rest of the teams two games less each year.
Hard to see clubs in Divisions Two, Three and Four agreeing to a situtation which would give their clubs less games each year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 16, 2009, 06:40:04 PM
Quote from: Carbery on July 16, 2009, 05:47:53 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 16, 2009, 03:53:59 PM
See a debate on the orchardcounty into the possible restructuring of the divisions. This has previously been mentioned by a member of the county board and should receive some consideration. The idea is to increase the 1st division to 12 teams so as to increase the number of games at the top division, so as to keep matches going longer in the year. It has also been suggested that matches be played only once a week april, august and september on a sunday.This would allow some family time by playing games on a friday or saturday during the months of may, june & july and also attendance of inter-county games. It would also give inter county players more games with their clubs. To facilitate this proposal it has been suggested that the bottom 2 teams in div1 play-off with 3rd and fourth in div 2 with the winners playing in the 1st division therefor increasing it to 12 teams. This would be repeated in division 2 to leave 12 teams in it. Division 3 and 4 would have 11 teams each which would leave one having a bye each week but there would still be 20 games per season. what do you think? no point in wraping leagues up in August each year and sending our players to other sports.

This suggestion would give 10 teams an extra two games and the rest of the teams two games less each year.
Hard to see clubs in Divisions Two, Three and Four agreeing to a situtation which would give their clubs less games each year.

Maths isnt one of your strong points then. 10 teams would play 4 extra games, 14 teams would see no change, and 22 teams would play two games less.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 16, 2009, 07:12:26 PM
duno what way that would work out. we've played once a week since the start of the league and an extra 4 games will make it a month longer. does championship season stay where it is? county board has aready made a mess of the u21 championship (again), which should go back to the end of season competition it used to be. Does the senior championships be put back so that the first round is in sept then? possible clash with ulster club games??

The number of games intercounty players get with their clubs will be entirely down to how far Armagh would go, obviously with a match every week then for whatever number of games armagh play the players will miss the club action. The only way this will ever change is if the county and club season did not run at the same time which will never happen. If you ask intercounty players if they really want an extra 4 games on the club season in the league each year i could hazard a guess that it wouldnt be that important to be honest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 17, 2009, 09:04:03 AM
not many mathematicians on the board div1 would then have 12 teams given 4 extra games, div2 12 teams same games, div3 & 4 would have 11 teams leaving 2 less games. correct about the county board not being able to organise a piss up in a brewery. A fulltime secretary and fulltime assistant and they cant even produce weekly league tables and as for the web-site never up to date for fixtures or results. If they worked for a private company they would be out of a job a long time ago.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 09:48:54 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 17, 2009, 09:04:03 AM
not many mathematicians on the board div1 would then have 12 teams given 4 extra games, div2 12 teams same games, div3 & 4 would have 11 teams leaving 2 less games. correct about the county board not being able to organise a piss up in a brewery. A fulltime secretary and fulltime assistant and they cant even produce weekly league tables and as for the web-site never up to date for fixtures or results. If they worked for a private company they would be out of a job a long time ago.

(sigh)

You're certainly not one of the mathematicians anyway.

2 of the 12 teams in any new division 1 would have came from division 2 where they would already have been playing 22 games and would see no change in the amount of fixtures. So, as I already stated, only 10 teams would have 4 games extra.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 17, 2009, 10:15:37 AM
Slieve wasn't being critical of you just explaining in plain language to those not so gifted in mathematics. would you agree with my next comment from earlier.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 10:39:57 AM
Well I would be reluctant to be so harsh on the county board but agree that may struggle with any kind of new set of fixtures. They do seem to be running things a lot slicker this year though compared to others gone by, although that probably isnt saying much. I would generally stick to the mantra 'if its not broke dont fix it'. I dont see many problems with the league structure as it is currently.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 10:53:47 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 10:39:57 AM
Well I would be reluctant to be so harsh on the county board but agree that may struggle with any kind of new set of fixtures. They do seem to be running things a lot slicker this year though compared to others gone by, although that probably isnt saying much.


Seconded, there certainly seems to be an improvement this year indeed from the county board, now if they could only put on double-bill Championship games I would be even more praise-worthy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 11:01:26 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 10:53:47 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 10:39:57 AM
Well I would be reluctant to be so harsh on the county board but agree that may struggle with any kind of new set of fixtures. They do seem to be running things a lot slicker this year though compared to others gone by, although that probably isnt saying much.


Seconded, there certainly seems to be an improvement this year indeed from the county board, now if they could only put on double-bill Championship games I would be even more praise-worthy.

Yeah would like to see that myself. I was up in derry for the first round of their championship back in may or april I think. They had a double header at a neutral ground on a sunday was a good days craic. Although we probably have a limited amount of club grounds and facilities that could cater for this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 11:15:56 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 11:01:26 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 10:53:47 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 10:39:57 AM
Well I would be reluctant to be so harsh on the county board but agree that may struggle with any kind of new set of fixtures. They do seem to be running things a lot slicker this year though compared to others gone by, although that probably isnt saying much.


Seconded, there certainly seems to be an improvement this year indeed from the county board, now if they could only put on double-bill Championship games I would be even more praise-worthy.

Yeah would like to see that myself. I was up in derry for the first round of their championship back in may or april I think. They had a double header at a neutral ground on a sunday was a good days craic. Although we probably have a limited amount of club grounds and facilities that could cater for this?

Ture, but Cruppen, Cross, Clans, Abbey Park, even the Bridge on their old pitch, could cater for two-game matches quite easily.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 17, 2009, 12:42:50 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 11:15:56 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 11:01:26 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 10:53:47 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 10:39:57 AM
Well I would be reluctant to be so harsh on the county board but agree that may struggle with any kind of new set of fixtures. They do seem to be running things a lot slicker this year though compared to others gone by, although that probably isnt saying much.
Seconded, there certainly seems to be an improvement this year indeed from the county board, now if they could only put on double-bill Championship games I would be even more praise-worthy.
Yeah would like to see that myself. I was up in derry for the first round of their championship back in may or april I think. They had a double header at a neutral ground on a sunday was a good days craic. Although we probably have a limited amount of club grounds and facilities that could cater for this?
Ture, but Cruppen, Cross, Clans, Abbey Park, even the Bridge on their old pitch, could cater for two-game matches quite easily.
Not to mention athletic grounds (triple) or even Clann Eireann/Maghery/Sarsfields

**Edit: Maghery v Whitecross and Clans v Mullabawn in the SFC will be a double header in the Athletic Grounds
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 17, 2009, 12:46:35 PM
Friday 24 July
IFC – 1st Round
St Paul's v Sarsfield's at Davitt Park (7.00)  Have seen both play this year. Sarsfield's comfortably.
Clonmore v Silverbridge at Granemore (7.00) Tight affair. Fancy an upset, Clonmore to squeeze through.

Saturday 25 July
IFC – 1st Round
Ballyhegan v Madden at Abbey Park (7.00) Ballyhegan
Lissummon v St Peter's at Portadown (7.00) Flourbags

Sunday 26 July
IFC – 1st Round
Annaghmore v Culloville at Ballymacnab (2.00) Cullaville comfortably
An Port v St Michael's at Ballymacnab (3.45) Newtown
Collegeland v Wolfe Tone at Maghery (7.00) Tones to squeeze through
Keady v Middletown at Athletic Grounds (7.00) Keady
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 17, 2009, 12:56:36 PM
Dont see how you cant be harsh after all they are paid employees. Check out the Tyrone, Monaghan county web-sites results, fixtures and league tables updated daily. not rocket science!!! They armagh fixture/result unpaid co-ordinator from your own club does a better job.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on July 17, 2009, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 17, 2009, 12:42:50 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 11:15:56 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 11:01:26 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 10:53:47 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 10:39:57 AM
Well I would be reluctant to be so harsh on the county board but agree that may struggle with any kind of new set of fixtures. They do seem to be running things a lot slicker this year though compared to others gone by, although that probably isnt saying much.
Seconded, there certainly seems to be an improvement this year indeed from the county board, now if they could only put on double-bill Championship games I would be even more praise-worthy.
Yeah would like to see that myself. I was up in derry for the first round of their championship back in may or april I think. They had a double header at a neutral ground on a sunday was a good days craic. Although we probably have a limited amount of club grounds and facilities that could cater for this?
Ture, but Cruppen, Cross, Clans, Abbey Park, even the Bridge on their old pitch, could cater for two-game matches quite easily.
Not to mention athletic grounds (triple) or even Clann Eireann/Maghery/Sarsfields

**Edit: Maghery v Whitecross and Clans v Mullabawn in the SFC will be a double header in the Athletic Grounds

pearse og park would probably have the best facilities to cater for a double header.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 02:39:42 PM
Quote from: pearseog on July 17, 2009, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 17, 2009, 12:42:50 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 11:15:56 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 11:01:26 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 10:53:47 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 10:39:57 AM
Well I would be reluctant to be so harsh on the county board but agree that may struggle with any kind of new set of fixtures. They do seem to be running things a lot slicker this year though compared to others gone by, although that probably isnt saying much.
Seconded, there certainly seems to be an improvement this year indeed from the county board, now if they could only put on double-bill Championship games I would be even more praise-worthy.
Yeah would like to see that myself. I was up in derry for the first round of their championship back in may or april I think. They had a double header at a neutral ground on a sunday was a good days craic. Although we probably have a limited amount of club grounds and facilities that could cater for this?
Ture, but Cruppen, Cross, Clans, Abbey Park, even the Bridge on their old pitch, could cater for two-game matches quite easily.
Not to mention athletic grounds (triple) or even Clann Eireann/Maghery/Sarsfields

**Edit: Maghery v Whitecross and Clans v Mullabawn in the SFC will be a double header in the Athletic Grounds

pearse og park would probably have the best facilities to cater for a double header.

It is not flat the whole way round though? Or is there banks now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Is it true that the O'Rourkes have quit Dromintee?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 03:09:18 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Is it true that the O'Rourkes have quit Dromintee?

Yes they have all walked out, but don't tell anyone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 17, 2009, 03:13:14 PM
doubtful but wouldnt surprise me either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 03:20:38 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 17, 2009, 03:13:14 PM
doubtful but wouldnt surprise me either.

Why's that now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 17, 2009, 03:24:13 PM
have been to the new ogs set up and they have a changing pavillion second to none with the biggest 4 changing rooms in the county and gym/function suite up stairs. They have created a large bank on the near side and there is a large tapered area on the far side. would be good enough to host any championship game bar the final. They also have planning for a spectator stand on the far side which they say will be up next year. fair play to them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Is it true that the O'Rourkes have quit Dromintee?

If by quit you mean not quit then yes.

What the f**k? Who starts this rumour every year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 03:25:55 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Is it true that the O'Rourkes have quit Dromintee?

If by quit you not quit then yes.

What the f**k? Who starts this rumour every year.

Every month.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 17, 2009, 03:30:47 PM
thought i might rattle the cage, this comes up almost monthly now. are u sure they havent ????????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Is it true that the O'Rourkes have quit Dromintee?

If by quit you mean not quit then yes.

What the f**k? Who starts this rumour every year.

Ok I can only take your word for it. Just heard that this was true. Its strange though that none of them lined out in last weeks game or is this also 'not true'?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 03:49:19 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 17, 2009, 03:30:47 PM
thought i might rattle the cage, this comes up almost monthly now. are u sure they havent ????????
You have already been given the answer. Now away back to trying to the get the county board sacked.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 03:55:29 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Is it true that the O'Rourkes have quit Dromintee?

If by quit you mean not quit then yes.

What the f**k? Who starts this rumour every year.

Ok I can only take your word for it. Just heard that this was true. Its strange though that none of them lined out in last weeks game or is this also 'not true'?


Micheal is in America, Marty and Aidan were carrying injuries. Cathal has retired. That fair enough?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Is it true that the O'Rourkes have quit Dromintee?

If by quit you mean not quit then yes.

What the f**k? Who starts this rumour every year.

Ok I can only take your word for it. Just heard that this was true. Its strange though that none of them lined out in last weeks game or is this also 'not true'?

Micheal is away to the states for a couple of months. Marty and Aidan were both out with injuries, although anyone at the game would have noticed they were both on the line with the team while injured.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 04:20:36 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 03:55:29 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Is it true that the O'Rourkes have quit Dromintee?

If by quit you mean not quit then yes.

What the f**k? Who starts this rumour every year.

Ok I can only take your word for it. Just heard that this was true. Its strange though that none of them lined out in last weeks game or is this also 'not true'?


Micheal is in America, Marty and Aidan were carrying injuries. Cathal has retired. That fair enough?

Thats fair enough. I presume you have the insider knowledge so I take your word for it. I didn't know Aidan was carrying an injury though. Will he or Martin be available for tonight against Culloville?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 04:26:36 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 04:20:36 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 03:55:29 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Is it true that the O'Rourkes have quit Dromintee?

If by quit you mean not quit then yes.

What the f**k? Who starts this rumour every year.

Ok I can only take your word for it. Just heard that this was true. Its strange though that none of them lined out in last weeks game or is this also 'not true'?


Micheal is in America, Marty and Aidan were carrying injuries. Cathal has retired. That fair enough?

Thats fair enough. I presume you have the insider knowledge so I take your word for it. I didn't know Aidan was carrying an injury though. Will he or Martin be available for tonight against Culloville?

I don;t know about Aidan, no insider info just heard they were injured, they were at the game. SG would have more info on about whether they would be fit for tonight. Honestly have no idea.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 04:32:46 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 04:20:36 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 03:55:29 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Is it true that the O'Rourkes have quit Dromintee?

If by quit you mean not quit then yes.

What the f**k? Who starts this rumour every year.

Ok I can only take your word for it. Just heard that this was true. Its strange though that none of them lined out in last weeks game or is this also 'not true'?


Micheal is in America, Marty and Aidan were carrying injuries. Cathal has retired. That fair enough?

Thats fair enough. I presume you have the insider knowledge so I take your word for it. I didn't know Aidan was carrying an injury though. Will he or Martin be available for tonight against Culloville?

Sure why don't I name tonight's team for ya and for anyone else who might be reading?

                        Aidan O'Rourke

             J McCoy    E Martin    C McCoy

John Paul McNally Sr      My Granny   S O'Neill

             John McEntee   Jeffrey Donaldson

The 'Bomber'      Marty O'Rourke     Connor Phillips

Jackie Fullerton    Bertie Ahern        Cathal O'Rourke

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 17, 2009, 04:35:30 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 04:32:46 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 04:20:36 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 03:55:29 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Is it true that the O'Rourkes have quit Dromintee?

If by quit you mean not quit then yes.

What the f**k? Who starts this rumour every year.

Ok I can only take your word for it. Just heard that this was true. Its strange though that none of them lined out in last weeks game or is this also 'not true'?


Micheal is in America, Marty and Aidan were carrying injuries. Cathal has retired. That fair enough?

Thats fair enough. I presume you have the insider knowledge so I take your word for it. I didn't know Aidan was carrying an injury though. Will he or Martin be available for tonight against Culloville?

Sure why don't I name tonight's team for ya and for anyone else who might be reading?

                        Aidan O'Rourke

             J McCoy    E Martin    C McCoy

John Paul McNally Sr      My Granny   S O'Neill

             John McEntee   Jeffrey Donaldson

The 'Bomber'      Marty O'Rourke     Connor Phillips

Jackie Fullerton    Bertie Ahern        Cathal O'Rourke



Is Gervaise McGinnity not being flown home from Manchester for the game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on July 17, 2009, 04:39:38 PM

Is that "cool fm's conor phillips?"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 04:43:50 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 17, 2009, 04:35:30 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 04:32:46 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 04:20:36 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 03:55:29 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Is it true that the O'Rourkes have quit Dromintee?

If by quit you mean not quit then yes.

What the f**k? Who starts this rumour every year.

Ok I can only take your word for it. Just heard that this was true. Its strange though that none of them lined out in last weeks game or is this also 'not true'?


Micheal is in America, Marty and Aidan were carrying injuries. Cathal has retired. That fair enough?

Thats fair enough. I presume you have the insider knowledge so I take your word for it. I didn't know Aidan was carrying an injury though. Will he or Martin be available for tonight against Culloville?

Sure why don't I name tonight's team for ya and for anyone else who might be reading?

                        Aidan O'Rourke

             J McCoy    E Martin    C McCoy

John Paul McNally Sr      My Granny   S O'Neill

             John McEntee   Jeffrey Donaldson

The 'Bomber'      Marty O'Rourke     Connor Phillips

Jackie Fullerton    Bertie Ahern        Cathal O'Rourke



Is Gervaise McGinnity not being flown home from Manchester for the game?

Big mouth! Cat's out of the bag now.  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 04:47:30 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 17, 2009, 04:35:30 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 04:32:46 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 04:20:36 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 03:55:29 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Is it true that the O'Rourkes have quit Dromintee?

If by quit you mean not quit then yes.

What the f**k? Who starts this rumour every year.

Ok I can only take your word for it. Just heard that this was true. Its strange though that none of them lined out in last weeks game or is this also 'not true'?


Micheal is in America, Marty and Aidan were carrying injuries. Cathal has retired. That fair enough?

Thats fair enough. I presume you have the insider knowledge so I take your word for it. I didn't know Aidan was carrying an injury though. Will he or Martin be available for tonight against Culloville?

Sure why don't I name tonight's team for ya and for anyone else who might be reading?

                        Aidan O'Rourke

             J McCoy    E Martin    C McCoy

John Paul McNally Sr      My Granny   S O'Neill

             John McEntee   Jeffrey Donaldson

The 'Bomber'      Marty O'Rourke     Connor Phillips

Jackie Fullerton    Bertie Ahern        Cathal O'Rourke



Is Gervaise McGinnity not being flown home from Manchester for the game?

There was talk of that but ya know recession and all that!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 17, 2009, 04:53:52 PM
SG you seem to have left out Damien (tigger) mc cullagh and Willie Joe Padden
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 05:04:55 PM
Thats some mix you've put together there SG, some real heavyweights there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 17, 2009, 05:27:03 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 04:47:30 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 17, 2009, 04:35:30 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 04:32:46 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 04:20:36 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 03:55:29 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 17, 2009, 03:24:34 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 17, 2009, 02:53:16 PM
Is it true that the O'Rourkes have quit Dromintee?

If by quit you mean not quit then yes.

What the f**k? Who starts this rumour every year.

Ok I can only take your word for it. Just heard that this was true. Its strange though that none of them lined out in last weeks game or is this also 'not true'?


Micheal is in America, Marty and Aidan were carrying injuries. Cathal has retired. That fair enough?

Thats fair enough. I presume you have the insider knowledge so I take your word for it. I didn't know Aidan was carrying an injury though. Will he or Martin be available for tonight against Culloville?

Sure why don't I name tonight's team for ya and for anyone else who might be reading?

                        Aidan O'Rourke

             J McCoy    E Martin    C McCoy

John Paul McNally Sr      My Granny   S O'Neill

             John McEntee   Jeffrey Donaldson

The 'Bomber'      Marty O'Rourke     Connor Phillips

Jackie Fullerton    Bertie Ahern        Cathal O'Rourke



Is Gervaise McGinnity not being flown home from Manchester for the game?

There was talk of that but ya know recession and all that!

He is rich enough to play his own flight...proabably too mean though!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 17, 2009, 09:16:37 PM
Any results?

Clans beat Mullabawn, 1-14 to 1-7, I think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 09:48:28 PM
Dromintee by three.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 17, 2009, 10:21:46 PM
cruppen and ogs drew 1 - 6 to 9.

i heard cullyhanna beat sarsfields.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on July 17, 2009, 10:24:51 PM
Any result for the Crossmaglen and Killeavy game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 10:33:54 PM
Cross won, don't know how much by.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on July 17, 2009, 10:41:37 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 17, 2009, 10:33:54 PM
Cross won, don't know how much by.

Thanks Corn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 17, 2009, 11:41:45 PM
Div. I
                       P     W   D     L   Pts
Crossmaglen      14    14   0     0   28
Carrickcruppen   14     7   2     5   16
Pearse Og        14     7   2     5   16
Dromintee        14     7   0     7   14
Clan na Gael     14     6   1     7   13
St Patrick's     14     6   1     7   13
Sarsfields       14     5   1     8   11
Killeavy         14     5   1     8   11
Mullaghbawn      14     5   1     8   11
Culloville       14     3   1     10   7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 18, 2009, 11:32:18 AM
What is the run in like for the teams involved in the bottom end of the table, anyone know? I know we have Sarsfields (a) Cross (a) Killeavy (h) and Mullaghbane (a), not sure what order its in though except that Sarsfields should be this week coming.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 18, 2009, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 18, 2009, 11:32:18 AM
What is the run in like for the teams involved in the bottom end of the table, anyone know? I know we have Sarsfields (a) Cross (a) Killeavy (h) and Mullaghbane (a), not sure what order its in though except that Sarsfields should be this week coming.

Sarsfields is down for next Sunday.

Had a wee gander at the fixture list last night, but it has all slipped my mind nearly. All I can remember is that Cross travel vto Mullaghabwn and Ogs travel to Ccross. Killeavy host Cullaville this week and I think St Pats welcome Cruppen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 18, 2009, 01:58:32 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 18, 2009, 11:55:05 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 18, 2009, 11:32:18 AM
What is the run in like for the teams involved in the bottom end of the table, anyone know? I know we have Sarsfields (a) Cross (a) Killeavy (h) and Mullaghbane (a), not sure what order its in though except that Sarsfields should be this week coming.

Sarsfields is down for next Sunday.

Had a wee gander at the fixture list last night, but it has all slipped my mind nearly. All I can remember is that Cross travel vto Mullaghabwn and Ogs travel to Ccross. Killeavy host Cullaville this week and I think St Pats welcome Cruppen.

I doubt it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 18, 2009, 06:35:35 PM
well it will be a welcome but probably not a nice one.

cruppen have cullyhanna away, and home to sarsfields, clans, mullaghban.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 19, 2009, 11:53:10 AM
Clans are away to Ogs, home to St.Pats, Home to Killeavy and away to Cruppen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on July 19, 2009, 01:00:28 PM
Mullaghbawn - Cross (Home) / Cruppen (Away) / Dromintee (Home) / Cullaville (away)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 19, 2009, 04:43:34 PM
Thats a tough run in for Mullaghbane, I think they might be in trouble.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 19, 2009, 06:29:16 PM
St Pat's - Cruppen (home) Clans (away) Cross (home) Killeavy (home)

Not sure of the order.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 19, 2009, 11:02:41 PM
I think Bawn need at least 2 wins from them games and its difficult to see where they will get them. I think its between them and Killeavy as they have a difficult run in too, its also hard to rule out the Sarsfileds. One of those 3 will join Culloville in div 2 next year id say.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 20, 2009, 09:23:53 AM
I think the smart money would be on a play off between a few teams, i believe Culloville are down as i can't see them winning their last 4 matches to stay up but as for the rest i still think it's in the melting pot and the only teams I'd rule out are Cross, Ogs and Cruppin from relegation. The thing is will teams that are safe now rest a few players and play weakened teams or will they still be going full tilt as the championship is only a 3 or 4 weeks away???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 20, 2009, 01:54:00 PM
Out of interest who would you's like to see go down? i would like to think culloville are already dead and buried (well for the c*nts lol) and i doubt i would lose any sleep if st pat's went down either although they maybe in a better position to avoid the drop than the other teams...

Would prefer if clans (obviously) mullabawn and sarsfields stayed up; sarsfields because we still owe them and mullabawn because they put on a very good spread in the club after  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 20, 2009, 02:09:15 PM
TBH i couldn't care less who goes down as long as it's not clans, i don't dislike (i was gonna say hate but that was too strong) anyone team more than the other so whoever deserves to go down by finishing in the bottom two then so be it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on July 20, 2009, 02:23:40 PM
would like to see mullabawn go down, due to the type of negative football they play with 13 men behind the ball...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 20, 2009, 02:25:44 PM
Obviously I would be wanting Killeavy to take the plunge being rivals and what not.

No real disliking apart from that.

I would like ourselves to stay up obviously, awalys had a soft spot for Cullyhanna too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on July 20, 2009, 02:34:06 PM
Mullagawn  Their negative football is absolutely horrible to watch. at least the rest of the teams try to play some sort of attacking football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 20, 2009, 09:33:21 PM
all county minor league
wolfe tones 2-15 granemore 3-4

granemore very cynical throughout the game constantly niggling and trying stir up trouble.  good win for our minors as missing a few players this evening.  the umpie who tried to signal 3 or 4 wides that where clear points in the senior game was at his old tricks tonight very frustrating
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 20, 2009, 11:16:36 PM
Cross 5-9 Clans 1-11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 21, 2009, 10:34:45 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E MONDAY 27 JULY 2009

Tuesday 21 July
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
Belleek v St Peter's (Vincent O'Neill)

Wednesday 22 July
All-County 'B' League – Group A (7.30)
Madden v Clan na Gael (Jim Burns)
Dromintee v Granemore (Barney Henry)
Sarsfields v Mullaghbawn (Paul Boylan)
All-County 'B' League – Group B (7.30)
Killeavy v Pearse Og (Mickey Leonard)
Maghery v Silverbridge (Ger Devlin)
Bye – Clann Eireann

Thursday 23 July
ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Forkhill v Dorsey Emmett's (Jim Burns)

Friday 24 July
Armagh Intermediate Football Championship (7.00)
St Paul's v Sarsfields (Noel Martin) at Davitt Park
Clonmore v Silverbridge (Damian McConville) at Granemore

ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Whitecross v Ballymacnab (Kevin Murtagh)

Saturday 25 July
Armagh Intermediate Football Championship (7.00)
Lissummon v St Peter's (Tony O'Hare) at Portadown
Keady v Middletown (Gary Smith) at Athletic Grounds

Sunday 26 July
Intermediate Football Championship
Annaghmore v Culloville (Paul Rath) at Athletic Grounds (2.00)
An Port Mor v St Michael's (Stephen Murray) at Athletic Grounds (4.00)
Collegeland v Wolfe Tone (Oliver Hearty) at Maghery (7.00)

ACL – Div. I (2.00)
St Patrick's v Carrickcruppen (Mickey Leonard)
Pearse Og v Clan na Gael (Jim Burns)
Mullaghbawn v Crossmaglen (Ger Devlin)
Sarsfields v Dromintee (Paul Boylan)

ACL – Div. II (2.00)
Whitecross v Armagh Harps (Paudie Hughes)
Ballymacnab v Clann Eireann (Barney Henry) (6.30)

ACL – Div. IV (2.00)
Killean v Forkhill (Joe Murtagh)
O'Hanlon's v Dorsey Emmett's (Jim Lynch)
Crossmaglen II v Corrinshego (Seamus O'Neill)
Derrynoose v Clady (Ronan Quigley)
Eire Og v Mullaghbrack (Kevin Murtagh)
Grange v Phelim Brady's (Rory Robinson)

Monday 27 July
Armagh Intermediate Football Championship (7.00)
Ballyhegan v Madden (Paudie Hughes) at Abbey Park
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 21, 2009, 11:11:05 AM
Lads what club is the ref Jim Burns from and whats he like. We have him for the B team tomorrow nite and for seniors on Sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 21, 2009, 05:49:32 PM
Jim is from Carrickcruppin not a bad ref but will take no slabbering ( so that could be a problem for you's ). Genuinely not the worst and there are plenty of bad ones.  ;D ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on July 21, 2009, 06:16:40 PM
McDonnell steps down as armagh manager!

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Football/News/Peter-McDonnell-Steps-down-as-Armagh-Manager.aspx

Who's the next man going to be?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on July 21, 2009, 08:07:33 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on July 21, 2009, 06:16:40 PM
McDonnell steps down as armagh manager!

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Football/News/Peter-McDonnell-Steps-down-as-Armagh-Manager.aspx

Who's the next man going to be?

Thank God
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on July 21, 2009, 08:27:33 PM
We need Beefer in the worst way.  ;)

Big Grimley will get the job done.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 21, 2009, 08:28:11 PM
Quote from: stew on July 21, 2009, 08:27:33 PM
We need Beefer in the worst way.  ;)

Big Grimley will get the job done.

cant see it happening...yet..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 21, 2009, 09:43:12 PM
Predictions for the weekends intermediate championship games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 21, 2009, 09:51:45 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on July 21, 2009, 09:43:12 PM
Predictions for the weekends intermediate championship games?
huge win for whoever plays an port mor
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
Think it needs to be a north armagh manager now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 21, 2009, 10:02:06 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 21, 2009, 09:51:45 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on July 21, 2009, 09:43:12 PM
Predictions for the weekends intermediate championship games?
huge win for whoever plays an port mor

I think we have a good enough chance to beat St Michaels.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 21, 2009, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
Think it needs to be a north armagh manager now.

why?

i think it doesnt really matter where the manager would come from. i dont think there would be too many who want it.

in any case, the recent south armagh dominance of armagh football can be seen in (a) Crossmaglen and (b) the number of teams in division 1.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 10:15:14 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 21, 2009, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
Think it needs to be a north armagh manager now.

why?

i think it doesnt really matter where the manager would come from. i dont think there would be too many who want it.

in any case, the recent south armagh dominance of armagh football can be seen in (a) Crossmaglen and (b) the number of teams in division 1.

Exactly....a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 21, 2009, 10:20:52 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 10:15:14 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 21, 2009, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
Think it needs to be a north armagh manager now.

why?

i think it doesnt really matter where the manager would come from. i dont think there would be too many who want it.

in any case, the recent south armagh dominance of armagh football can be seen in (a) Crossmaglen and (b) the number of teams in division 1.

Exactly....a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart.
The best man for the job should be picked. Doesn't matter if he hails from Cross or Craigavon
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 22, 2009, 08:10:59 AM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 10:15:14 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 21, 2009, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
Think it needs to be a north armagh manager now.

why?

i think it doesnt really matter where the manager would come from. i dont think there would be too many who want it.

in any case, the recent south armagh dominance of armagh football can be seen in (a) Crossmaglen and (b) the number of teams in division 1.

Exactly....a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart.

Nonsense

Are you saying that if the next manager isnt from NA he wont have the best interests of the county at heart?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 22, 2009, 09:16:06 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 21, 2009, 05:49:32 PM
Jim is from Carrickcruppin not a bad ref but will take no slabbering ( so that could be a problem for you's ). Genuinely not the worst and there are plenty of bad ones.  ;D ::)

Well if he listens to mouths slabbering from the supporters then he's the bigger fool as there'll be none from the team or management nor has there been any all year...so wind it in and stop slabbering about stuff you know nothing about
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 22, 2009, 09:34:20 AM
Dont kid yourself i have experienced it at first hand for many years as a player, coach and supporter. Bumpy may have have gone but there are plenty of yaps still on the pitch. possibly one could be you or is it from the bench? Correct about the supporters ok, can even hear you yapping through the board as normal. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on July 22, 2009, 10:20:23 AM
Quote from: full back on July 22, 2009, 08:10:59 AM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 10:15:14 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 21, 2009, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
Think it needs to be a north armagh manager now.

why?

i think it doesnt really matter where the manager would come from. i dont think there would be too many who want it.

in any case, the recent south armagh dominance of armagh football can be seen in (a) Crossmaglen and (b) the number of teams in division 1.

Exactly....a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart.

Nonsense

Are you saying that if the next manager isnt from NA he wont have the best interests of the county at heart?


Eh...i mean as opposed to an outside manager who would only be in for the £££s
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 22, 2009, 11:31:28 AM
Quote from: fred the red on July 22, 2009, 10:20:23 AM
Quote from: full back on July 22, 2009, 08:10:59 AM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 10:15:14 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 21, 2009, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
Think it needs to be a north armagh manager now.

why?

i think it doesnt really matter where the manager would come from. i dont think there would be too many who want it.

in any case, the recent south armagh dominance of armagh football can be seen in (a) Crossmaglen and (b) the number of teams in division 1.

Exactly....a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart.

Nonsense

Are you saying that if the next manager isnt from NA he wont have the best interests of the county at heart?


Eh...i mean as opposed to an outside manager who would only be in for the £££s

He doesnt have to be a North Armagh man to have the best interests of the county at heart

Why do you see a division with North Armagh & the rest of the county?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Winnie Peg on July 22, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
I have heard from a very good source that the next Armagh manager will be Aiden O'Rourke with Bernie Murray as his assistant.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 22, 2009, 11:51:20 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 22, 2009, 09:34:20 AM
Dont kid yourself i have experienced it at first hand for many years as a player, coach and supporter. Bumpy may have have gone but there are plenty of yaps still on the pitch. possibly one could be you or is it from the bench? Correct about the supporters ok, can even hear you yapping through the board as normal. ;)

I'm not going to get into a silly argument with you about this, i know the Clans have been known for doing a bit of slabbering over the years but it's not there now (from the team & management) you can name players all you like (i'd prefer u didn't) but you don't know me and you don't know if i play or not so sounds like your the one doing the slabbering. Like i say if there are supporters slabbering (and i know they do) don't blame that on the players

P.S. you must be some footballer yourself...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on July 22, 2009, 12:24:22 PM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on July 22, 2009, 11:47:16 AM
I have heard from a very good source that the next Armagh manager will be Aiden O'Rourke with Bernie Murray as his assistant.

FFS where do people hear these fairy tales
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on July 22, 2009, 02:57:38 PM
Quote from: full back on July 22, 2009, 11:31:28 AM
Quote from: fred the red on July 22, 2009, 10:20:23 AM
Quote from: full back on July 22, 2009, 08:10:59 AM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 10:15:14 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 21, 2009, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
Think it needs to be a north armagh manager now.

why?

i think it doesnt really matter where the manager would come from. i dont think there would be too many who want it.

in any case, the recent south armagh dominance of armagh football can be seen in (a) Crossmaglen and (b) the number of teams in division 1.

Exactly....a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart.

Nonsense

Are you saying that if the next manager isnt from NA he wont have the best interests of the county at heart?


Eh...i mean as opposed to an outside manager who would only be in for the £££s

He doesnt have to be a North Armagh man to have the best interests of the county at heart

Why do you see a division with North Armagh & the rest of the county?


Armagh football is dominated by South Armagh teams. To avoid conflicts of interest/perceived favourtism it makes sense that the manager does not come from this area.


If however, the stand out candidate is from this area then he surely should be made manager.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 22, 2009, 03:09:46 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 22, 2009, 02:57:38 PM
Quote from: full back on July 22, 2009, 11:31:28 AM
Quote from: fred the red on July 22, 2009, 10:20:23 AM
Quote from: full back on July 22, 2009, 08:10:59 AM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 10:15:14 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 21, 2009, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
Think it needs to be a north armagh manager now.

why?

i think it doesnt really matter where the manager would come from. i dont think there would be too many who want it.

in any case, the recent south armagh dominance of armagh football can be seen in (a) Crossmaglen and (b) the number of teams in division 1.

Exactly....a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart.

Nonsense

Are you saying that if the next manager isnt from NA he wont have the best interests of the county at heart?


Eh...i mean as opposed to an outside manager who would only be in for the £££s

He doesnt have to be a North Armagh man to have the best interests of the county at heart

Why do you see a division with North Armagh & the rest of the county?


Armagh football is dominated by South Armagh teams. To avoid conflicts of interest/perceived favourtism it makes sense that the manager does not come from this area.


If however, the stand out candidate is from this area then he surely should be made manager.

This negates what you previously stated
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on July 22, 2009, 03:12:17 PM
Quote from: full back on July 22, 2009, 03:09:46 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 22, 2009, 02:57:38 PM
Quote from: full back on July 22, 2009, 11:31:28 AM
Quote from: fred the red on July 22, 2009, 10:20:23 AM
Quote from: full back on July 22, 2009, 08:10:59 AM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 10:15:14 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 21, 2009, 10:05:22 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 21, 2009, 09:54:00 PM
Think it needs to be a north armagh manager now.

why?

i think it doesnt really matter where the manager would come from. i dont think there would be too many who want it.

in any case, the recent south armagh dominance of armagh football can be seen in (a) Crossmaglen and (b) the number of teams in division 1.

Exactly....a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart.

Nonsense

Are you saying that if the next manager isnt from NA he wont have the best interests of the county at heart?


Eh...i mean as opposed to an outside manager who would only be in for the £££s

He doesnt have to be a North Armagh man to have the best interests of the county at heart

Why do you see a division with North Armagh & the rest of the county?


Armagh football is dominated by South Armagh teams. To avoid conflicts of interest/perceived favourtism it makes sense that the manager does not come from this area.


If however, the stand out candidate is from this area then he surely should be made manager.

This negates what you previously stated

Not really. I said if there is a stand out candidate then he should be made manager.

However if there where 2 managers equal in skill and experience, i think the NA manager should get the nod for the reasons i have highlighted previously.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 22, 2009, 03:16:37 PM
We are going around in circles here

You said "a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart."

I said that statement is nonsense

Who cares where he is from?

If you are the county manager, naturally you will have the best interests at heart

Every county manager wants to be successful, every supporter should want the same and not bringing up what part of the county you should be from
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on July 22, 2009, 03:24:36 PM
Quote from: full back on July 22, 2009, 03:16:37 PM
We are going around in circles here

You said "a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart."

I said that statement is nonsense

Who cares where he is from?

If you are the county manager, naturally you will have the best interests at heart

Every county manager wants to be successful, every supporter should want the same and not bringing up what part of the county you should be from

I just feel that a local man would have more passion for the job than an 'outsider'.

If you disagree with this then fair enough, and I would agree that if there is no one within the county who is able to do the job then an outsider may be a viable option.

An outsider has worked for Antrim & Wicklow, but we should have enough talent within our own county to take on the best in Ireland.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 22, 2009, 03:28:43 PM
I do agree with you fred that an man from inside the county would be the best option, but I disagree that a NA man would be any better than a man from anywhere else within the county

With this fiasco regarding Mc Donnell perhaps it isnt just the management team that needs to be changed.
So far, the CB havent exactly covered themselves in glory
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: robertemmet on July 22, 2009, 03:44:55 PM
Would John rafferty not be in the running for the Armagh senior job.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 22, 2009, 03:47:06 PM
Quote from: robertemmet on July 22, 2009, 03:44:55 PM
Would John rafferty not be in the running for the Armagh senior job.

How did Slaughtneil take to him?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on July 22, 2009, 03:52:48 PM
Quote from: robertemmet on July 22, 2009, 03:44:55 PM
Would John rafferty not be in the running for the Armagh senior job.

He would be keen as mustard. Anyone care to guess what criteria candidates need to meet? For example:

- Must have a realistic plan that will achieve a second AI (with suitable checkpoints along the way)
- Must have excellent man-management skills
- Must demonstrate ability to get the best of average and great players
- Must be able to work with and get the best out of coaching and training staff
- Must not listen to crap on GAA Board
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 22, 2009, 04:06:42 PM
Quote from: fred the red on July 22, 2009, 03:24:36 PM
Quote from: full back on July 22, 2009, 03:16:37 PM
We are going around in circles here

You said "a NA man would almost be the same as a neutral...plus he will have the best interests of the county at heart."

I said that statement is nonsense

Who cares where he is from?

If you are the county manager, naturally you will have the best interests at heart

Every county manager wants to be successful, every supporter should want the same and not bringing up what part of the county you should be from

I just feel that a local man would have more passion for the job than an 'outsider'.

If you disagree with this then fair enough, and I would agree that if there is no one within the county who is able to do the job then an outsider may be a viable option.

An outsider has worked for Antrim & Wicklow, but we should have enough talent within our own county to take on the best in Ireland.

But that's flawed though isn;t it?

Passion isn't everything and setting up silly north.south armagh divides won't helpeither.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 22, 2009, 04:08:33 PM
Quote from: Orior on July 22, 2009, 03:52:48 PM
Quote from: robertemmet on July 22, 2009, 03:44:55 PM
Would John rafferty not be in the running for the Armagh senior job.

He would be keen as mustard. Anyone care to guess what criteria candidates need to meet? For example:

- Must have a realistic plan that will achieve a second AI (with suitable checkpoints along the way)
- Must have excellent man-management skills
- Must demonstrate ability to get the best of average and great players
- Must be able to work with and get the best out of coaching and training staff
- Must not listen to crap on GAA Board


All valid till you got to the last one.  Did you not know that the only way to win an AI is to learn from all the experts on Discussion boards who have got millions of medals in their back pockets?  This in my view should be top of you list ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on July 22, 2009, 04:21:13 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 22, 2009, 04:08:33 PM
Quote from: Orior on July 22, 2009, 03:52:48 PM
Quote from: robertemmet on July 22, 2009, 03:44:55 PM
Would John rafferty not be in the running for the Armagh senior job.

He would be keen as mustard. Anyone care to guess what criteria candidates need to meet? For example:

- Must have a realistic plan that will achieve a second AI (with suitable checkpoints along the way)
- Must have excellent man-management skills
- Must demonstrate ability to get the best of average and great players
- Must be able to work with and get the best out of coaching and training staff
- Must not listen to crap on GAA Board


All valid till you got to the last one.  Did you not know that the only way to win an AI is to learn from all the experts on Discussion boards who have got millions of medals in their back pockets?  This in my view should be top of you list ;D

The only thing I've learned from GaaBoard is... is... is... ONeill and Muppet are two funny blokes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 22, 2009, 05:14:46 PM
The new manager must also be able to deal with the characters in the Armagh team that are throwing toys out of the pram when they don't get their own way. For the new year coming in the players also need to grow up and accept the manager is there to do a job and he must be left to it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on July 22, 2009, 05:19:40 PM

You mean the new manager must have the capacity to manage win?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 22, 2009, 06:38:39 PM
well in as many words duffle :o  But a few players must catch themselves on and take a reality check
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 22, 2009, 07:27:51 PM



Armagh football is dominated by South Armagh teams. To avoid conflicts of interest/perceived favourtism it makes sense that the manager does not come from this area.


If however, the stand out candidate is from this area then he surely should be made manager.
[/quote]

a north armagh man could then be perceived as being biased if for example ryan henderson where to start.  Dont know any credable candidates from n armagh anyway?  it a vicious circle, people are going to complain no matter what team/players/panel is selected.  i ask that the best man appointed regardless of postcode
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 22, 2009, 07:30:13 PM

However if there where 2 managers equal in skill and experience, i think the NA manager should get the nod for the reasons i have highlighted previously.
[/quote]

could end up in court over the head of that!discrimination!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on July 22, 2009, 08:53:25 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 22, 2009, 06:38:39 PM
well in as many words duffle :o  But a few players must catch themselves on and take a reality check

Well obviously i don't know what you're talking about specifically but whatever about the characters or temprements in any dressingroom, if a manager can't harness them then he is in the wrong job.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 23, 2009, 08:41:24 AM
Will be interesting to read the sabotage theory to be released by pmcd as stated in the paper. Hope its not a smoke screen for the poor performances of the management team. ps John Rafferty auctioned himself to various clubs last year and after committing to one rejected it for a higher bidder, don't think he will move from his current position.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on July 23, 2009, 09:45:43 AM
i heard Aiden O'Rourke and enda mcnulty were looking to take the job, but also heard joe kernan could be comming back... the ammount of rumours about is unreal...

John Rafferty would have to be one of the favourites as he is one of only a few in the county that have any proven managerial experience, other than that you would probably be looking at someone from outside the county unless geezer would want the post but couldn't see that happening until there a clearout at county board level!...
would rather see geezer take charge in a few years anyhow once there is a better team in place...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on July 23, 2009, 10:59:14 AM

I suppose everyone has a whisper of their own. The one i heard was that Joe was told straight off he would not be getting it and that McAlinden is a cert. McAlinden will be trying to take Grimley with him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 23, 2009, 11:13:28 AM
Quote from: The GAA on July 23, 2009, 10:59:14 AM

I suppose everyone has a whisper of their own. The one i heard was that Joe was told straight off he would not be getting it and that McAlinden is a cert. McAlinden will be trying to take Grimley with him

I know Brian McAlinden very well and i know the type of man he is and i doubt very much that him & Grimley would work together, they are both very similar and both would like to call the shots and i reckon a clash of personalities would occur. Brian like it done his way and wouldn't like Grim suggesting something different. I could be wrong but i doubt that partnership will take off (it actually would be a good one if they could work together)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on July 23, 2009, 11:14:00 AM
Quote from: flog the lot on July 23, 2009, 09:45:43 AM
i heard Aiden O'Rourke and enda mcnulty were looking to take the job, but also heard joe kernan could be comming back... the ammount of rumours about is unreal...

John Rafferty would have to be one of the favourites as he is one of only a few in the county that have any proven managerial experience, other than that you would probably be looking at someone from outside the county unless geezer would want the post but couldn't see that happening until there a clearout at county board level!...
would rather see geezer take charge in a few years anyhow once there is a better team in place...


Joe Kernan has ruled himself out of a return to the manager's job in Armagh.

Armagh are in the hunt for a new boss after Peter McDonnell stepped down, but Kernan cited work commitments as his reason for declining the chance to return.

'In one way, I'd love to go back but I'm just involved with a business project and I'm putting all my energies into that,' he said in hoganstand.com.

'But whoever gets the job, there's a great bunch of young lads there. They're young and enthusiastic and certainly he (the new manager) won't be going in starting from scratch.'

He went on: 'I was very lucky to work with my club and my county. I do believe that with all the young boys who are there, we have a good future. But at this minute in time, I would have to say no.

'I'm going to look after my business. We've got a lot of very big contracts and I think it's time for me to look after myself.'

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 23, 2009, 11:53:38 AM
Time for me to look after myself ?????  would it be  possible that Donal Murtagh could be given a shot with possibly a mid man say Peter Raff and Brian mc alinden from the north helping out. ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on July 23, 2009, 02:45:39 PM
This weekend's game should make the relegation fight a lot clearer. Anyone with any predictions? Im going to go for culloville who i think are gone already and mullabawn who have one of the hardest run ins. killeavy have a tricky run in too. id say there will only be a point in it. i would say 15 points will keep you up be it getting into a playoff
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 23, 2009, 02:57:03 PM
Ogs v Clans - draw
Sarsfileds v Dromintee - Dromintee (because Srasfileds are in championship action fri night)
St. Pats v Cruppen - St.Pats
Mullaghbawn v Cross - Cross (Mullaghbawn to go down)
Killeavy v Culloville - Killeavy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on July 23, 2009, 06:28:07 PM
interview 630 rte radio with pmcd
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on July 23, 2009, 08:14:40 PM
Boys lets forget this crap about North, Mid  or South Armagh. We are one county team and NO division/split.
We all want the same thing, ::) a successful team to support
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 24, 2009, 08:41:45 AM
Predictions for C'ship weekend


St Paul's v Sarsfields   Sarsfields by 10
Clonmore v Silverbridge Silverbridge by 2
Lissummon v St Peter's St Peters by 3
Keady v Middletown  Keady by 6
Annaghmore v Culloville Culloville by 6
An Port Mor v St Michael's St Michaels by 3
Collegeland v Wolfe Tone Wolfe Tones by 2
Ballyhegan v Madden Draw
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 24, 2009, 10:41:31 AM
Predictions for C'ship weekend


St Paul's v Sarsfields     Sarsfields comfortably (might go watch this one)
Clonmore v Silverbridge     Clonmore by the minimum
Lissummon v St Peter's     Flourbags with a few to spare
Keady v Middletown     Keady, but only just.
Annaghmore v Culloville     Culloville comfortably.
An Port Mor v St Michael's     St Michael's
Collegeland v Wolfe Tone     Wolfe Tones by 3/4
Ballyhegan v Madden     Madden by 1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 24, 2009, 09:17:38 PM
Bridge beat clonmore by 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 25, 2009, 04:54:52 AM
Saturday 25 July
IFC – 1st Round
Ballyhegan v Madden at Abbey Park (7.00) ballyhegan by 2
Lissummon v St Peter's at Portadown (7.00)st.peters by 5

Sunday 26 July
IFC – 1st Round
Annaghmore v Culloville at Ballymacnab (2.00) cullaville by 9
An Port v St Michael's at Ballymacnab (3.45) An Portmor by 3
Collegeland v Wolfe Tone at Maghery (7.00)tones by 4
Keady v Middletown at Athletic Grounds (7.00) Middletown by 2

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 25, 2009, 01:40:25 PM
Sarsfields destroyed St Paul's. 1-16 to 1-4, St Pauls were like a pub team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 25, 2009, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 25, 2009, 04:00:55 PM
I wouldn't have John Rafferty next nor near the team. He was in charge of the St Pauls third year team and allowed personal bias to determine the structure of the team. As a result they were beaten by Keady High School in the Ulster Final.

Elabortae? Because it sounds like you are talking shit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on July 25, 2009, 05:05:18 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 25, 2009, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 25, 2009, 04:00:55 PM
I wouldn't have John Rafferty next nor near the team. He was in charge of the St Pauls third year team and allowed personal bias to determine the structure of the team. As a result they were beaten by Keady High School in the Ulster Final.

Elabortae? Because it sounds like you are talking shit.

Have you been at the dictionary again? :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 25, 2009, 05:52:38 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 25, 2009, 05:47:17 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 25, 2009, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 25, 2009, 04:00:55 PM
I wouldn't have John Rafferty next nor near the team. He was in charge of the St Pauls third year team and allowed personal bias to determine the structure of the team. As a result they were beaten by Keady High School in the Ulster Final.

Elabortae? Because it sounds like you are talking shit.

He's made it clear that he has no time for kids who play soccer 

I'd imagine you could be right.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 26, 2009, 08:56:04 AM
St Peters beat Lisummon well
Keady beat Midletown by a goal
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 26, 2009, 01:03:20 PM
Quote from: Diet Coke on July 25, 2009, 05:05:18 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 25, 2009, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on July 25, 2009, 04:00:55 PM
I wouldn't have John Rafferty next nor near the team. He was in charge of the St Pauls third year team and allowed personal bias to determine the structure of the team. As a result they were beaten by Keady High School in the Ulster Final.

Elabortae? Because it sounds like you are talking shit.

Have you been at the dictionary again? :D

You following me around chap with your shit talk?

Do me a favour and look at SK's scoring record in the Championshipp, and Mallon's too. Then, after that, try and get it into your head that systems dictate a lot of things, if you can't comprehend these things that is fair enough, we'll just agree you are slow.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 26, 2009, 03:41:19 PM
Cross 2-10 Mullabawn 0-6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 26, 2009, 03:43:13 PM
St Pat's 0-19 Cruppen 0-1

Facile victory against what appeared a disinterested Cruppen side. Comfortably our best performance of the year and a game that a lot of people in the club felt we were due. Like many matches this year, we performed very well at midfield but for a pleasant change our forward play was excellent and score taking superb. Badly needed victory as we have Clans, Cross and Ógs to play yet. The 2 points should keep us safe, at the very worst I'd say we could end up in a play off. Best for Cullyhanna were Tony Donnelly, Shane McKeever, Liam O'Hare and Eugene Casey.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 26, 2009, 03:53:25 PM
Pearse Ogs 1-13 Clan Na Gael 0-12
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 26, 2009, 04:15:43 PM
Whitecross beat Harps by a goal in Whitecross, 1-10 to 0-10 or the like.  It's a long time since I left a match as angry as i was today with the referee, you guessed it - Paudie.  Nothing to do with the result, Whitecross were worthy winners but Paudie is unbelievable some times, you just get the feeling sometimes that he is down right cheating.  It's hard to believe that that is the case, so he just must be a really shit ref.  The Whitecross contingent were laughing at him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 26, 2009, 04:32:20 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 26, 2009, 03:53:25 PM
Pearse Ogs 1-13 Clan Na Gael 0-12
Bad game of football. Ref poor for both sides. Clans leading by 2 only to concede a disgusting goal just after the break - on the attack, too many bodies forward, stupidly lose possesion. Ogs make good move up the pitch and finish to the net. Clans couldn't recover after that, result never really in doubt.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 26, 2009, 04:40:32 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 26, 2009, 03:43:13 PM
St Pat's 0-19 Cruppen 0-1
WTF happened Cruppen?  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 26, 2009, 05:02:27 PM
Sarsfields 0-12 Dromintee 0-05.

Dromintee had a man sent off early in the second half, think the score was 6-5 at that stage. Nonetheless, absolutely terrible game of football with a particularly bad performance from Dromntee. Big games for us coming up against Mullaghbane and Killeavy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 26, 2009, 05:28:08 PM
Any Championship results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 26, 2009, 05:47:59 PM
I make this the table after today's results;

Crossmaglen      15   15   0     0   30 (Champions)
Pearse Og         15     8   2     5   18
Carrickcruppen   15     7   2     6   16
St Patrick's        15     7   1     7   15
Dromintee         15     7   0     8   14
Clan na Gael      15     6   1     8    13
Sarsfields          15     6   1     8    13
Killeavy             14     5   1     8    11
Mullaghbawn     15     5   1     9    11
Culloville            14     3   1   10    7

I'm beyond predicting anything at this stage. Worst we could end up would in a play off I'd have thought.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 26, 2009, 06:17:44 PM
Any word from Cullaville Killeavy, were they playing today?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 26, 2009, 06:19:00 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 26, 2009, 06:17:44 PM
Any word from Cullaville Killeavy, were they playing today?
Cullaville were playing annaghmore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 26, 2009, 06:20:43 PM
Ah right.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 26, 2009, 11:25:41 PM
An Portmor 0-7
St Michaels 0-7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 26, 2009, 11:34:48 PM
Tones just about scraped past Collegeland. Poor start but tones eventually got the act together, charlie stubbs should be on after he comes in from the burn to fill yous all in on the important details  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 27, 2009, 08:57:41 AM
Went to armagh and took in 2 games. ogs v clans the ref was very poor against both teams blow/blow/blow. ogs scored a cracking goal and should have won by a lot more having kicked at least 8 scoreable wides in the first half. clans were lucky they had an excellent fee taker in no11 o hagan who scored at least 7/8 frees. was interested in seeing soupy campbell but he had a nightmare and was well marked. however clans will survive as they are a better team than mbawn and killeavey. ps ill/fitz were yous fed. went then to probably the worst game i seen this year bwt v st michaels, you can see how both teams are struggling. no real game plan and a number of players on both teams not fit to play championship football. don't rush to the replay!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on July 27, 2009, 09:20:21 AM
went to the ogs clans game myself. Ogs deserving winners and should have won by alot more. However from what i have seen the clans will stay up as they are definitely not in the bottom 2 teams in division 1. The ref was absolutely terrible for both teams blowing for everything not letting the game flow. The game was played in a sporting fashion with a few mistimed tackles due to the down pour. One disappointing aspect of the match i have to say was some of the clan na gael supporters. i was at the match with some youngsters and the language and abuse that was being hurled from them was terrible. They abused everyone from the referee to the ogs players but mostly to the clans players themselves. i had to move away from them to be honest. Not the sort of supporters needed at matches especially as the clans team themselves just get on with the football. i suppose all clubs have this though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 27, 2009, 09:32:09 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 27, 2009, 08:57:41 AM
Went to armagh and took in 2 games. ogs v clans the ref was very poor against both teams blow/blow/blow. ogs scored a cracking goal and should have won by a lot more having kicked at least 8 scoreable wides in the first half. clans were lucky they had an excellent fee taker in no11 o hagan who scored at least 7/8 frees. was interested in seeing soupy campbell but he had a nightmare and was well marked. however clans will survive as they are a better team than mbawn and killeavey. ps ill/fitz were yous fed. went then to probably the worst game i seen this year bwt v st michaels, you can see how both teams are struggling. no real game plan and a number of players on both teams not fit to play championship football. don't rush to the replay!!!!

Yes wanderer we were fed alright and i hafta say it was good feeding ;). As for the match itself Og's deserved to win alright and the ref was very picky for both sides getting a number of decisions wrong. The Og's goal just killed the game off and we can't have any complaints as we got what we deserved...Nothing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 27, 2009, 09:38:10 AM
Quote from: davo on July 27, 2009, 09:20:21 AM
went to the ogs clans game myself. Ogs deserving winners and should have won by alot more. However from what i have seen the clans will stay up as they are definitely not in the bottom 2 teams in division 1. The ref was absolutely terrible for both teams blowing for everything not letting the game flow. The game was played in a sporting fashion with a few mistimed tackles due to the down pour. One disappointing aspect of the match i have to say was some of the clan na gael supporters. i was at the match with some youngsters and the language and abuse that was being hurled from them was terrible. They abused everyone from the referee to the ogs players but mostly to the clans players themselves. i had to move away from them to be honest. Not the sort of supporters needed at matches especially as the clans team themselves just get on with the football. i suppose all clubs have this though.

No Davo our supporters followers are the worst out there, the young lads on our team are scared stiff playing in Davitt Park as the abuse they take (and some of it is very personal) is a disgrace and our home record proves this with only 2 wins all year. It is embarrassing for other supporters to hear this and we do know why other teams would brand us slabbers (and rightly so) but please don't connect those fools on the bank with the lads on the pitch as we have cut that shit out from the team and the lads just get on with it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on July 27, 2009, 10:47:01 AM
illdecide i was very impressed by the attitude of both teams given that the ref was so poor. they just got on with the game which was good to see. The Clans players have to take a great deal of credit in the manner in which they represent their club. Very unfortunate that the younger players on your team feel like. All players are busting themselves in training to represent their club and should not be subject to such abuse.

My feelings still have not changed. I think Mullaghbawn and culloville will go down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 27, 2009, 11:32:34 AM
3 wins illdecide! 3 wins and a draw!  :-* Only teams to beat us at home, cross, dromintee and that debacle v cullaville. The slabbers on the bank i dont really notice unless i'm on the sideline. Like you said the team just ignores them as should the opposition and ref.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Clansman on July 27, 2009, 12:26:04 PM
every club has slabbers but ours are probably the worst. Its most of the older generation who NEVER praise the players no matter what it is just all negative comments . Every week on the sidelines its the same old shit . Shouting too the Ref " Take it yourself " . Even after a win they find something to moan about. Im not saying all of them are like that its just a handful who make the rest look bad. Anyway well done to the players for a great effort so far this season and i know you will see it through in the last few matches. Good Luck
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 12:37:40 PM
The minority in Clans crowd would put you off watching club football, they are worse than huns. We pride ourselves on the friendly nature of our games but to be honest you wouldnt hear any worse in the terraces at a soccer match in windsor park. And the worst about it is its usually directed at their own!! If  the team annoys them that much why do they bother going to the games!! Disgarce to themselves and their club. On a positive note the game yesterday was quite exiting, and to be honest I dont agree that Ogs should have won by more but they were the more composed team. The ref was an absolute t**t, and could have ruined what was a good club game of football. The dissapointing thing however was the Ogs, def deserved winners but if thats their full team then  Cross have absolutely FA to worry about in championship im afraid!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 27, 2009, 12:40:34 PM
Funny, coming out of Davitt ths year I was thinking that the supporters were nowhere near as bad as made out/had been in previous years and that was a pooe performance from Clans that day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 27, 2009, 01:05:04 PM
looking at the ogs team lineout they have 4/5 to come in. cross will be still weary of them as the ogs and dtee are really the only two teams who can put it up to them providing the ogs get over the first round. ill tell ur chairman to have a words with the slabbers and tell them their not wanted at least it might embarrass some of them???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 01:12:25 PM
That would be normal course of action but problem is that majority of them are directly related to the chairman!! Ogs chairman told me yesterday that it was first time this year they had full team to pick from. And Id personally like to ask why people keep mentioning Dromintee as possible championship contenders!! Cross would be them 3 times a day everyday if they had to plus they are shit this year in general!! NOONE WILL TOUCH CROSS THIS YEAR! I said that in May and was assulted for doing so! It pains me to say it but theres no suitable challenger this year. f**king inbred c***ts are being handed championships due to the ineptitude of everyone else!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 27, 2009, 01:14:22 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 01:12:25 PM
. And Id personally like to ask why people keep mentioning Dromintee as possible championship contenders!!

Of couyse they are contedners you div.

They are unlikely to toruble Cross this year though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
Contenders but unlikely to trouble cross!! Direct contradiction saan!! IDIOT!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 27, 2009, 01:32:03 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 12:37:40 PM
The minority in Clans crowd would put you off watching club football, they are worse than huns. We pride ourselves on the friendly nature of our games but to be honest you wouldnt hear any worse in the terraces at a soccer match in windsor park. And the worst about it is its usually directed at their own!! If  the team annoys them that much why do they bother going to the games!! Disgarce to themselves and their club. On a positive note the game yesterday was quite exiting, and to be honest I dont agree that Ogs should have won by more but they were the more composed team. The ref was an absolute t**t, and could have ruined what was a good club game of football. The dissapointing thing however was the Ogs, def deserved winners but if thats their full team then  Cross have absolutely FA to worry about in championship im afraid!

Tasteful as ever "saan".  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 27, 2009, 02:13:58 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 01:12:25 PM
f**king inbred c***ts are being handed championships due to the ineptitude of everyone else!

Everyone is shit so we win the championship, classic!!!!!  You are a funny guy and there is no doubting that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 27, 2009, 02:30:44 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
Contenders but unlikely to trouble cross!! Direct contradiction saan!! IDIOT!

Indeed.

Contedner, we have a good chance of winning.

Unlikely to trouble cross in my opion, but we should still be in contention.

Div.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 27, 2009, 02:37:53 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 27, 2009, 02:30:44 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
Contenders but unlikely to trouble cross!! Direct contradiction saan!! IDIOT!

Indeed.

Contedner, we have a good chance of winning.

Unlikely to trouble cross in my opion, but we should still be in contention.

Div.
Corn, saying "unlikely to trouble Cross" in anyones book is implying Dromintee are unlikely to win the SFC as XMG are the team to beat... How then can you say you are also in with a good chance of winning  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 27, 2009, 03:35:08 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 27, 2009, 02:37:53 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 27, 2009, 02:30:44 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 01:30:48 PM
Contenders but unlikely to trouble cross!! Direct contradiction saan!! IDIOT!

Indeed.

Contedner, we have a good chance of winning.

Unlikely to trouble cross in my opion, but we should still be in contention.

Div.
Corn, saying "unlikely to trouble Cross" in anyones book is implying Dromintee are unlikely to win the SFC as XMG are the team to beat... How then can you say you are also in with a good chance of winning  ???

I would imagine the common thought would be that Dromintee have a decent chance.

I don't think we will beat them, still doesn't mean we are not contenders.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 27, 2009, 03:42:13 PM
ill your in full flight now. however ogs def had 4/5 of their championship team not playin yesterday even if they said they had full squad available. maybe tryin out a few saw a few not togged out. ps who do clans play in championship and whats ur chances
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 05:12:33 PM
They play Mullaghbawn and id say they have a good chance although with the inexperience of the team they can take nothing for granted.

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 27, 2009, 02:13:58 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 01:12:25 PM
f**king inbred c***ts are being handed championships due to the ineptitude of everyone else!

Everyone is shit so we win the championship, classic!!!!!  You are a funny guy and there is no doubting that.

Not saying they wouldnt win anyway on merit saan just saying that they are getting it pretty easy as other teams are going backwards instead of forwards.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 27, 2009, 06:11:32 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 05:12:33 PM
They play Mullaghbawn and id say they have a good chance although with the inexperience of the team they can take nothing for granted.

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 27, 2009, 02:13:58 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 01:12:25 PM
f**king inbred c***ts are being handed championships due to the ineptitude of everyone else!

Everyone is shit so we win the championship, classic!!!!!  You are a funny guy and there is no doubting that.

Not saying they wouldnt win anyway on merit saan just saying that they are getting it pretty easy as other teams are going backwards instead of forwards.

I posted something along those lines a while back and was told to stop being an arrogant p***k(I think you may have been one of the ones who said that).  I think that is right, and the close nature of the rest of the league would suggest a certain level of parity among the rest of the teams.  This has an effect on the whole standard of play in Armagh as I feel that as Cross's dominace has increased the will to compete has diminished and the follow on from that is that Cross will dominate even more.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 07:19:35 PM
I agree that they will continue to dominate in Armagh but IMO this cross team isnt as strong as previous ones and their dominance will be as much to do with lack of suitbale challengers as their own prowess. Their dominance on the all ireland stage is over however if you ask me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 27, 2009, 07:26:40 PM
f**k BC you are one arrogant p***k.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on July 27, 2009, 08:20:49 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 27, 2009, 06:11:32 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 05:12:33 PM
They play Mullaghbawn and id say they have a good chance although with the inexperience of the team they can take nothing for granted.

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 27, 2009, 02:13:58 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2009, 01:12:25 PM
f**king inbred c***ts are being handed championships due to the ineptitude of everyone else!

Everyone is shit so we win the championship, classic!!!!!  You are a funny guy and there is no doubting that.

Not saying they wouldnt win anyway on merit saan just saying that they are getting it pretty easy as other teams are going backwards instead of forwards.

I posted something along those lines a while back and was told to stop being an arrogant p***k(I think you may have been one of the ones who said that).  I think that is right, and the close nature of the rest of the league would suggest a certain level of parity among the rest of the teams.  This has an effect on the whole standard of play in Armagh as I feel that as Cross's dominace has increased the will to compete has diminished and the follow on from that is that Cross will dominate even more.


I reckon Cross will struggle to maintain things when the McEntees hang up their boots.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 27, 2009, 08:58:08 PM
Ballyhegan defeated Madden tonight in Abbey Park by a score line of 2.08 - 0.12
2 opportunistic goals came from Eoin Reynolds. Most of Madden scores from Joe Feeney. Paul Courtney retired injured.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 27, 2009, 08:59:45 PM
Once the physicalpresence/intimidation leaves with the Macs and JD etc.. Cross wont be half the team IMO, they'll still be a powerful side but well beatable.



Ballyheagan beat Madden 2-8 to 0-12 tonight in Abbey.  Madden will wonder how they lost it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on July 27, 2009, 09:33:23 PM
Bad news for Eire Og:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8171336.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8171336.stm)


Pensioner tied up in GAA robbery  
 
A 77-year-old man has been assaulted during an armed robbery at a GAA club near Craigavon in County Armagh.

Three masked men, one armed with a sawn-off shotgun, entered Eire Og GAA club on the Tullygally East Road at about 1030 BST on Monday.

They tied Mickey Catney, who works there as a voluntary caretaker, to a radiator and hit him on the head with the gun before stealing up to £10,000.

The thieves then made their getaway in Mr Catney's car.

Club chairman John Brennan said he had been left very badly shaken by the ordeal.

"He has been about the club for many years and is very respected in the local community," he said.

"They (the attackers) just came in and asked where the money was.

"I always said if the place was robbed to just give them the money and not to put your life in danger, so he give them the money but he was manhandled and they also tied him up."

The car was later found abandoned in the Aldervale flats area of Craigavon. Police have appealed for information.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 27, 2009, 10:24:48 PM
peters v tones

bhegan v keady

hoops v culloville

bridge v port mor or st michaels

think from a tones point of view best draw possible.1 of the favourites go out and we play a lower division team. need improve on performance in last round(report to come hungover 2day lol) local derby peters not to be underestimated
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 27, 2009, 11:52:13 PM
Pity we didn't get the glamour tie of Tones vs Highmoss  ;)
Title: Odds for Senior C'ship 2009
Post by: full back on July 28, 2009, 08:18:31 AM
Armagh SFC 2009
Outright Betting


1/4 - Crossmaglen
7/1 - Pearse Ogs
10/1 - Dromintee
12/1 - St Pat's
14/1 - Clan Na Gael
16/1 - Carrickcruppen
20/1 - Mullabawn
20/1 - Killeavy
20/1 - Maghery
20/1 - Whitecross
20/1 - Harps
33/1 - Granemore
40/1 - Ballymacnab
50/1 - Tir Na Nog

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on July 28, 2009, 09:30:54 AM
Cross are good value to win SFC even at 1/4. It's like buying money.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 28, 2009, 09:53:22 AM
lets see you buy it or are u yellow??? ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 28, 2009, 10:55:01 AM
Cruppen and Killeavy will probably be surprised to be behind Dromintee on the betting if form is anything to go by, or our performances against them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 28, 2009, 11:29:20 AM
i d say bridge will be very happy to have drawn bwt or st michaels both very poor. keady v b hegan old grudge rivals with keady rebuilding hard to call. tones should have upper hand on st. peters but they are not a good championship team in recent years. sars v cville would look good for sars but cville have a bit of steel about them when it comes to cship and sars dont like s/armagh teams in c/ship as we saw last year. interesting games ahead???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on July 28, 2009, 11:33:15 AM
Quote from: fred the red on July 27, 2009, 09:33:23 PM
Bad news for Eire Og:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8171336.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8171336.stm)
Pensioner tied up in GAA robbery  

A gentleman, Mickey. I seriously hope these cnuts get what they deserve.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 28, 2009, 11:33:29 AM
Think the bookies have the sides ranked about right in the odds. Have the first 3 right anway, wouldn't agree at all that Cruppen or Killeavy have a better chance than Dromintee. Clans might argue that they have more chance than we do, based on the fact that they usually beat us I suppose. Ógs are proably best placed to challenge. Harps would have been a lot less than 20/1 if they'd been in any sort of form.
Title: Re: Odds for Senior C'ship 2009
Post by: slievegullion on July 28, 2009, 11:37:09 AM
Quote from: full back on July 28, 2009, 08:18:31 AM
Armagh SFC 2009
Outright Betting


1/4 - Crossmaglen
7/1 - Pearse Ogs
10/1 - Dromintee
12/1 - St Pat's
14/1 - Clan Na Gael
16/1 - Carrickcruppen
20/1 - Mullabawn
20/1 - Killeavy
20/1 - Maghery
20/1 - Whitecross
20/1 - Harps
33/1 - Granemore
40/1 - Ballymacnab
50/1 - Tir Na Nog



Where did them odds come from?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 28, 2009, 11:37:56 AM
Bar One
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 28, 2009, 11:40:21 AM
Yeah they're about right I'd say. 1/4 before a championship starts, crazy. Just shows what sort of condition the championship is in.

Speaking of Bar One, anyone else think it strange that they sponsor Crossmaglen when one of their high profile players wrote a book about having a gambling problem?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 28, 2009, 11:44:01 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 28, 2009, 11:40:21 AM
Yeah they're about right I'd say. 1/4 before a championship starts, crazy. Just shows what sort of condition the championship is in.

Well Barney says thanks for approving it ;)

Do you not think that 1/4 is a great price fro Cross?
I would have been thinking more 1/6 or 1/8
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on July 28, 2009, 11:45:47 AM
I see the highlights are up on the armagh website now, they actually aren't too bad.  Hope they keep it going though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 28, 2009, 11:47:52 AM
Quote from: full back on July 28, 2009, 11:44:01 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 28, 2009, 11:40:21 AM
Yeah they're about right I'd say. 1/4 before a championship starts, crazy. Just shows what sort of condition the championship is in.

Well Barney says thanks for approving it ;)

Do you not think that 1/4 is a great price fro Cross?
I would have been thinking more 1/6 or 1/8

Yeah, possibly. Whats the shortest they've ever been? It couldn't be much shorter than 1/4?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on July 28, 2009, 12:12:03 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 28, 2009, 09:53:22 AM
lets see you buy it or are u yellow??? ;D

Yes I'll be investing unless I find better odds elsewhere but I doubt it. Think about it. Theres absolutely no chance of Cross not winning it.

Lump on!

Ogs are the only team with the players to challenge Cross and they have gone backwards since last year. I would even give Cruppen a decent chance
of taking Ogs out in the first round.

I would agree with other posters though that it says a lot for the uncompetitive nature of club football in the county at present. Interest in the championship
is probably at an all time low. When a team can tailor its training to peak in October it says it all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 28, 2009, 01:02:31 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 28, 2009, 11:40:21 AM
Yeah they're about right I'd say. 1/4 before a championship starts, crazy. Just shows what sort of condition the championship is in.

Speaking of Bar One, anyone else think it strange that they sponsor Crossmaglen when one of their high profile players wrote a book about having a gambling problem?

Is it 2008 again?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 28, 2009, 01:20:52 PM
Was this debate already had?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on July 28, 2009, 02:10:33 PM
I see Cross play the ogs this weekend. this should be a good game as both teams will want a good hard tussle in preparation for the championship 2 weeks later. Although nothing to play for with cross having already won the league and ogs safe both teams will want to win this. The ogs should have beat cross  time out if only they brought their shooting boots and cross will want to send a clear message to their rivals. I would say both teams will play pretty much full strength teams.

Killeavy will need to get a win on the board or the pressure will be on as will mullabawn.

Are these the last league games until after the championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 28, 2009, 03:27:30 PM
Clans & Cullyhanna by the end of the week will be sick looking at each other, playing tomorrow night in the B semi final and then again on Sunday in Division1. Pats will be full of confidence after their 18pt win v Cruppen whereas ourselves are in dire need of a victory to keep us from slipping down towards the relegation zone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 28, 2009, 03:35:33 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 28, 2009, 01:20:52 PM
Was this debate already had?

Yeah, wasn;t really a debat, more just innappropriate jokes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 28, 2009, 04:39:47 PM
see big joe in the irish news today some outfit for a bigbig man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on July 28, 2009, 05:00:26 PM
Is Dyas available for Dromintees c'ship campaign?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 28, 2009, 06:24:28 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 27, 2009, 11:52:13 PM
Pity we didn't get the glamour tie of Tones vs Highmoss  ;)

want to avoid them to be honest cant see us beating them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 28, 2009, 06:32:10 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 28, 2009, 05:00:26 PM
Is Dyas available for Dromintees c'ship campaign?

Is he home?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clansman on July 27, 2009, 12:26:04 PM
every club has slabbers but ours are probably the worst. Its most of the older generation who NEVER praise the players no matter what it is just all negative comments . Every week on the sidelines its the same old shit . Shouting too the Ref " Take it yourself " . Even after a win they find something to moan about. Im not saying all of them are like that its just a handful who make the rest look bad. Anyway well done to the players for a great effort so far this season and i know you will see it through in the last few matches. Good Luck

I have never met a bigger set of know it alls than the older Clans men... Its a joke.

The conspiracy theories an all these fellas spout are unreal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 28, 2009, 06:47:47 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clansman on July 27, 2009, 12:26:04 PM
every club has slabbers but ours are probably the worst. Its most of the older generation who NEVER praise the players no matter what it is just all negative comments . Every week on the sidelines its the same old shit . Shouting too the Ref " Take it yourself " . Even after a win they find something to moan about. Im not saying all of them are like that its just a handful who make the rest look bad. Anyway well done to the players for a great effort so far this season and i know you will see it through in the last few matches. Good Luck

I have never met a bigger set of know it alls than the older Clans men... Its a joke.

The conspiracy theories an all these fellas spout are unreal.

all in a days work nail!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:56:27 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 28, 2009, 06:47:47 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clansman on July 27, 2009, 12:26:04 PM
every club has slabbers but ours are probably the worst. Its most of the older generation who NEVER praise the players no matter what it is just all negative comments . Every week on the sidelines its the same old shit . Shouting too the Ref " Take it yourself " . Even after a win they find something to moan about. Im not saying all of them are like that its just a handful who make the rest look bad. Anyway well done to the players for a great effort so far this season and i know you will see it through in the last few matches. Good Luck

I have never met a bigger set of know it alls than the older Clans men... Its a joke.

The conspiracy theories an all these fellas spout are unreal.

all in a days work nail!

Unfortunately. Does my head in listening to it. Did you know Joe Kernan was still managing Armagh this year and the Kernans refused to pass to Ryan Henderson against Monaghan when he came on apparently??

Thats the sorta shit they talk, I just sit there and nod.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 28, 2009, 06:59:04 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:56:27 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 28, 2009, 06:47:47 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clansman on July 27, 2009, 12:26:04 PM
every club has slabbers but ours are probably the worst. Its most of the older generation who NEVER praise the players no matter what it is just all negative comments . Every week on the sidelines its the same old shit . Shouting too the Ref " Take it yourself " . Even after a win they find something to moan about. Im not saying all of them are like that its just a handful who make the rest look bad. Anyway well done to the players for a great effort so far this season and i know you will see it through in the last few matches. Good Luck

I have never met a bigger set of know it alls than the older Clans men... Its a joke.

The conspiracy theories an all these fellas spout are unreal.

all in a days work nail!

Unfortunately. Does my head in listening to it. Did you know Joe Kernan was still managing Armagh this year and the Kernans refused to pass to Ryan Henderson against Monaghan when he came on apparently??

Thats the sorta shit they talk, I just sit there and nod.

It's not a conspiracy, it's all true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 07:05:13 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 28, 2009, 06:59:04 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:56:27 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 28, 2009, 06:47:47 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clansman on July 27, 2009, 12:26:04 PM
every club has slabbers but ours are probably the worst. Its most of the older generation who NEVER praise the players no matter what it is just all negative comments . Every week on the sidelines its the same old shit . Shouting too the Ref " Take it yourself " . Even after a win they find something to moan about. Im not saying all of them are like that its just a handful who make the rest look bad. Anyway well done to the players for a great effort so far this season and i know you will see it through in the last few matches. Good Luck

I have never met a bigger set of know it alls than the older Clans men... Its a joke.

The conspiracy theories an all these fellas spout are unreal.

all in a days work nail!

Unfortunately. Does my head in listening to it. Did you know Joe Kernan was still managing Armagh this year and the Kernans refused to pass to Ryan Henderson against Monaghan when he came on apparently??

Thats the sorta shit they talk, I just sit there and nod.

It's not a conspiracy, it's all true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

f**k!! They were right all along!! Gonna have to start a thread on the main page about this!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 28, 2009, 07:52:08 PM
poor oul henderson. He must have spoke out of turn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 28, 2009, 08:32:49 PM
Armagh Intermediate Championship 1st Round 26 July 2009
Wolfe Tones 1-13 Collegeland 2-7
Despite trailing underdogs Collegeland by 2 points at the interval, a marked improvement in the second half saw Wolfe Tones progress to the quarter final of the intermediate championship where they will have to contest a local derby with St.Peter's Lurgan. 
The game was played at Maghery and the Tones players where hoping they could have similar success to that of last year, where at the same stage of the competition they disposed of Annaghmore at the same venue.  However, things did not go to plan four minutes into the game Collegeland fired to the net to lead 1-00 to no score.  A direct high ball into the Tones defence caused confusion and the ball broke to the full forward who drove the ball past both Kieran Murray and Connor McCarron from 8 yards. 
After seven minutes of the contest the Tones had yet to register a score and it took one of their defenders to raise the white flag for the first time.  Finnian Moriarty added hid weigh to the attack and after picking up a break ball was able to split the posts from 35 yards.  This seemed to kick the Tones into gear and the dangerous Emmet Haughian was able to reduce the arrears to one point after a smart turn on the left flank.  The Tones pulled level a minute later after James Lavery was able to win a clean catch at midfield, he again fed Emmet who turned his man again and restored parity between the two sides. 
Collegeland went ahead for the second time in the game after 13 mintes when their centre half forward appeared to win the ball via a slide tackle, he proceeded to carry the ball forward and strike a fine score with his left foot.  The Tones response was immediate and after Finnian Moriarty was fouled Emmet Haughian was able to score his third point of the game and first from a placed ball. 
At the midway stage of the first half, Wolfe Tones where able to edge in front for the first time, when James Lavery was able to round two men and score a point from 30 yards.  Rather than set a platform for the Tones to push on, they where hit with a sucker punch for the second time when Collegeland netted their second three pointer of the half.  Again it was a long ball into the heart of the defence which caused confusion between Michael Carson and David Heaney and the Collegeland no.12 cooly finished to the net leaving Kieran Murray with no chance.  After 21 minutes a goal separated the sides whenever, the Collegeland no.8 was afforded too much space on the Tones 21 yard line and he duly took advantage with a point. 
After the Tones kicked two wides, on 28th minute the Division 3 side where able to increase their lead when a free was awarded against David Heaney for a push in the back and the no.13 was able to convert.  The Tones finished the half strongly, and Finnian Moriarty found Conor Coleman who pointed from 40 yards and after a foul on Chris McAlinden, Emmet Haughian pointed a second free of the half to leave the Tones trailing by 2 points at the half way stage. 
Half time
Wolfe Tones 0-07 Collegeland 2-03

Two minutes into the second half Collegeland went further ahead with a terrific free from 50 yards from the wing from their no.12.  This seemed to lift Collegeland momentarily and their no.7 was able to run half the length of the field and add a fine score moments later. 
After four minutes of the second half, Gerard Kavanagh who had been introduced as a halftime substitute made an immediate impact and was hauled down for a penalty.  Chris McAlinden mad no mistake from the penalty spot striking the ball to the keeper's right.  Moments later, Gerard was causing more havoc in the Collegeland defence breaking the ball down to Finnian Moriarty who's shot whistled across the face of goal.  The Tones at this stage looked like a resurgent side and after a great block by Emmet Haughian in the Collegeland twenty one, he was able to set up Conor Coleman for the equalising point.  Conor's midfield partner James Lavery, was then able to land a great score with his weaker left foot after winning a 50/50 ball putting the Tones ahead after thirty-nine minutes. 
After Collegeland kicked two wides, the Coleman's Conor and Brendan combined and Brendan kicked over a fine score from 35 yards.  The Tones where now mixing the football up a bit and a direct ball into Gerard Kavanagh who was proving a real handful, culminated in Gerard kicking over his first score of the evening from an acute angle after 48 minutes stretching the lead to 3 points.  The Tones then went to sleep immediately and a quickly taken free kick resulted in the Collegeland no.21 reducing the deficit to two points, a very dangerous lead to have. 
In the 51st minute, Brendan Coleman was able to score a real captains score from 35 yards after great persistence by Gerard Kavanagh.  With one minute remaining Collegeland where able to score a free, but it was a goal they craved at this stage of the game and they could well have got this, if it wasn't for a superb take from David Heaney under a high ball that Collegeland had been using for most of the evening. 
One minute into injury time, Johnny McCarron was then left in oceans of space on the left flank and was found by a great cross field pass by Chris McAlinden.  Johnny took one solo and slotted the ball over from 21 yards and this seemed to be the insurance score that the Tones required.  Collegeland had the last say of the game, when their no.21 won a break ball and kicked a consolation score. 
This was a much improved second half performance from the Tones and should be seen as a morale boosting victory.  The focus over the next few weeks will be to get clear of the relegation dogfight and hopefully advance to the semi-finals of the championship, where we where so unfortunate to lose last year to Cullaville. 
Tones team: Kieran Murray, Michael Carson, Connor McCarron, Chris McCarron, Niall Geoghegan, Finnian Moriarty, David Heaney, James Lavery, Conor Coleman, Chris McAlinden, Johnny McCarron, Brendan Coleman, John Toal, John McKeever, Emmet Haughian
Subs Used: Gerard Kavanagh for John McKeever, John McKeever for John Toal
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 28, 2009, 08:38:12 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clansman on July 27, 2009, 12:26:04 PM
every club has slabbers but ours are probably the worst. Its most of the older generation who NEVER praise the players no matter what it is just all negative comments . Every week on the sidelines its the same old shit . Shouting too the Ref " Take it yourself " . Even after a win they find something to moan about. Im not saying all of them are like that its just a handful who make the rest look bad. Anyway well done to the players for a great effort so far this season and i know you will see it through in the last few matches. Good Luck

I have never met a bigger set of know it alls than the older Clans men... Its a joke.

The conspiracy theories an all these fellas spout are unreal.

i went to the Mullaghbawn Clans game the other week Clans far deserving of the 2 points, only side trrying play football.  I was by myself so just started talking to this older clans supporter, just about general armagh football before the game etc he seemed relatively sound until the ball was threw in.  every free gave to mullaghawn he was screaming in my ear then there was words exchanged with the mbawn supporters.  i actually left ten mins before end was getting a sore head!ref wasnt even bad!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on July 28, 2009, 09:10:20 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 07:05:13 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 28, 2009, 06:59:04 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:56:27 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 28, 2009, 06:47:47 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clansman on July 27, 2009, 12:26:04 PM
every club has slabbers but ours are probably the worst. Its most of the older generation who NEVER praise the players no matter what it is just all negative comments . Every week on the sidelines its the same old shit . Shouting too the Ref " Take it yourself " . Even after a win they find something to moan about. Im not saying all of them are like that its just a handful who make the rest look bad. Anyway well done to the players for a great effort so far this season and i know you will see it through in the last few matches. Good Luck

I have never met a bigger set of know it alls than the older Clans men... Its a joke.

The conspiracy theories an all these fellas spout are unreal.

all in a days work nail!

Unfortunately. Does my head in listening to it. Did you know Joe Kernan was still managing Armagh this year and the Kernans refused to pass to Ryan Henderson against Monaghan when he came on apparently??

Thats the sorta shit they talk, I just sit there and nod.

It's not a conspiracy, it's all true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

f**k!! They were right all along!! Gonna have to start a thread on the main page about this!!

I heard a brilliant conspiracy story today that made me laugh out load. Someone was talking about the Peter Mc Donnell exit statement last week and was talking about the tactics getting leaked. They said that was because Joe Kernan had been coaching Monaghan prior to the game. Conspiracy story of the year I reckon!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 28, 2009, 09:57:29 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 28, 2009, 08:38:12 PM
i went to the Mullaghbawn Clans game the other week Clans far deserving of the 2 points, only side trrying play football.  I was by myself so just started talking to this older clans supporter, just about general armagh football before the game etc he seemed relatively sound until the ball was threw in.  every free gave to mullaghawn he was screaming in my ear then there was words exchanged with the mbawn supporters.  i actually left ten mins before end was getting a sore head!ref wasnt even bad!
Wolfe Tones' supporters weren't too afraid to express themselves on Sunday evening either Charlie  ;) Telling the ref a few home truths
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 28, 2009, 06:24:28 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 27, 2009, 11:52:13 PM
Pity we didn't get the glamour tie of Tones vs Highmoss  ;)
want to avoid them to be honest cant see us beating them
You's will have to play them at some stage if you's have any intention of winning the IFC...You's know them inside out, wouldn't be too hard to stop them from playing IMO
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 28, 2009, 10:04:39 PM
Quote from: ogshead on July 28, 2009, 09:10:20 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 07:05:13 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 28, 2009, 06:59:04 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:56:27 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 28, 2009, 06:47:47 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clansman on July 27, 2009, 12:26:04 PM
every club has slabbers but ours are probably the worst. Its most of the older generation who NEVER praise the players no matter what it is just all negative comments . Every week on the sidelines its the same old shit . Shouting too the Ref " Take it yourself " . Even after a win they find something to moan about. Im not saying all of them are like that its just a handful who make the rest look bad. Anyway well done to the players for a great effort so far this season and i know you will see it through in the last few matches. Good Luck

I have never met a bigger set of know it alls than the older Clans men... Its a joke.

The conspiracy theories an all these fellas spout are unreal.

all in a days work nail!

Unfortunately. Does my head in listening to it. Did you know Joe Kernan was still managing Armagh this year and the Kernans refused to pass to Ryan Henderson against Monaghan when he came on apparently??

Thats the sorta shit they talk, I just sit there and nod.

It's not a conspiracy, it's all true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

f**k!! They were right all along!! Gonna have to start a thread on the main page about this!!

I heard a brilliant conspiracy story today that made me laugh out load. Someone was talking about the Peter Mc Donnell exit statement last week and was talking about the tactics getting leaked. They said that was because Joe Kernan had been coaching Monaghan prior to the game. Conspiracy story of the year I reckon!!
Wrong thread ;-)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on July 28, 2009, 10:05:49 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on July 28, 2009, 05:00:26 PM
Is Dyas available for Dromintees c'ship campaign?
No.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 28, 2009, 10:06:32 PM

Wolfe Tones' supporters weren't too afraid to express themselves on Sunday evening either Charlie  ;) Telling the ref a few home truths

suppose a few where badly behaved.lol  hate these pukes that slabber when the ref doing nothing wrong though
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 28, 2009, 06:24:28 PM

You's will have to play them at some stage if you's have any intention of winning the IFC...You's know them inside out, wouldn't be too hard to stop them from playing IMO
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im not so sure fitz.  i think there a mental block with alot of the players, i dont know why underage for the last 7/8 years our inors havealways beaten them and that the basis of their team.  the two league defeats last year very hard to stomach.  i think cullaville could def take them and we showed last year we are capable of beating them.  would worry about their defence though dont think it great
i
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 28, 2009, 10:37:45 PM
Makes you wonder how a club with such sh*te underage structures can get into Division 1  ??? lol
Cullaville and Sarsfield's obviously the favourites, how confident are you's for the q/f against the flourbags?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 29, 2009, 02:29:43 PM
Clans v St Pats tonight in Athletic Grounds 7:30 (i think) in the B championship semi final...Will the county board let us warm up on their precious pitch ::) or have they a designated warm up area close-by?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 29, 2009, 02:50:15 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 28, 2009, 08:38:12 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clansman on July 27, 2009, 12:26:04 PM
every club has slabbers but ours are probably the worst. Its most of the older generation who NEVER praise the players no matter what it is just all negative comments . Every week on the sidelines its the same old shit . Shouting too the Ref " Take it yourself " . Even after a win they find something to moan about. Im not saying all of them are like that its just a handful who make the rest look bad. Anyway well done to the players for a great effort so far this season and i know you will see it through in the last few matches. Good Luck

I have never met a bigger set of know it alls than the older Clans men... Its a joke.

The conspiracy theories an all these fellas spout are unreal.

i went to the Mullaghbawn Clans game the other week Clans far deserving of the 2 points, only side trrying play football.  I was by myself so just started talking to this older clans supporter, just about general armagh football before the game etc he seemed relatively sound until the ball was threw in.  every free gave to mullaghawn he was screaming in my ear then there was words exchanged with the mbawn supporters.  i actually left ten mins before end was getting a sore head!ref wasnt even bad!

They're cat altogether. Ran the line when we were playing them earlier this year, can't remember hearing worse yaps in my life. Amongst their "highlights" was accusing Ciaran McKeever of not trying against Tyrone.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 29, 2009, 02:59:30 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 29, 2009, 02:50:15 PM
Amongst their "highlights" was accusing Ciaran McKeever of not trying against Tyrone.  ::)
You have to admitt that is funny  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on July 29, 2009, 04:05:19 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 29, 2009, 02:29:43 PM
Clans v St Pats tonight in Athletic Grounds 7:30 (i think) in the B championship semi final...Will the county board let us warm up on their precious pitch ::) or have they a designated warm up area close-by?

well the teams at the weekend warmed up on the pitch before the game! you could always go out to madden...yas did well their last week!!lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on July 29, 2009, 09:20:16 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on July 28, 2009, 10:04:39 PM
Quote from: ogshead on July 28, 2009, 09:10:20 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 07:05:13 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on July 28, 2009, 06:59:04 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:56:27 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on July 28, 2009, 06:47:47 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clansman on July 27, 2009, 12:26:04 PM
every club has slabbers but ours are probably the worst. Its most of the older generation who NEVER praise the players no matter what it is just all negative comments . Every week on the sidelines its the same old shit . Shouting too the Ref " Take it yourself " . Even after a win they find something to moan about. Im not saying all of them are like that its just a handful who make the rest look bad. Anyway well done to the players for a great effort so far this season and i know you will see it through in the last few matches. Good Luck

I have never met a bigger set of know it alls than the older Clans men... Its a joke.

The conspiracy theories an all these fellas spout are unreal.

all in a days work nail!

Unfortunately. Does my head in listening to it. Did you know Joe Kernan was still managing Armagh this year and the Kernans refused to pass to Ryan Henderson against Monaghan when he came on apparently??

Thats the sorta shit they talk, I just sit there and nod.

It's not a conspiracy, it's all true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

f**k!! They were right all along!! Gonna have to start a thread on the main page about this!!

I heard a brilliant conspiracy story today that made me laugh out load. Someone was talking about the Peter Mc Donnell exit statement last week and was talking about the tactics getting leaked. They said that was because Joe Kernan had been coaching Monaghan prior to the game. Conspiracy story of the year I reckon!!
Wrong thread ;-)

Didn't realise there was thread going on but had seen that after I posted, my post only related to conspiracy theories and now I notice someone on the other thread is taking this seriously which proves how one rumour can spiral out of control!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 29, 2009, 09:41:44 PM
St Pat's drew with Clans in the semi final of the B Championship. Think it might have been 1-11 each.

We were 2 points up at half time, mostly from Kyle McEvoy's accurate free taking and a well struck penalty. To be fair, Clans probably should have been ahead at half time. They had a number of dangerous attacks but could neither take the simple point or manufacture a real goal chance. Couple of bad wides as well.

St Pat's played much the better football in the second half, particularly after Clans were reduced to 14 men after an off the ball incident. We were 4 ahead heading into injury time but gave away a stupid penalty and Clans got the equaliser with the last kick of the match.

Replay on Sunday at 2pm. Senior match between the 2 clubs is off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 29, 2009, 09:43:23 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 28, 2009, 08:38:12 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 28, 2009, 06:46:05 PM
Quote from: Clansman on July 27, 2009, 12:26:04 PM
every club has slabbers but ours are probably the worst. Its most of the older generation who NEVER praise the players no matter what it is just all negative comments . Every week on the sidelines its the same old shit . Shouting too the Ref " Take it yourself " . Even after a win they find something to moan about. Im not saying all of them are like that its just a handful who make the rest look bad. Anyway well done to the players for a great effort so far this season and i know you will see it through in the last few matches. Good Luck

I have never met a bigger set of know it alls than the older Clans men... Its a joke.

The conspiracy theories an all these fellas spout are unreal.

i went to the Mullaghbawn Clans game the other week Clans far deserving of the 2 points, only side trrying play football.  I was by myself so just started talking to this older clans supporter, just about general armagh football before the game etc he seemed relatively sound until the ball was threw in.  every free gave to mullaghawn he was screaming in my ear then there was words exchanged with the mbawn supporters.  i actually left ten mins before end was getting a sore head!ref wasnt even bad!

Tonight some of the Clans players were slabbering to each other about slabbering.  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 29, 2009, 10:27:40 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 29, 2009, 09:41:44 PM
St Pat's drew with Clans in the semi final of the B Championship. Think it might have been 1-11 each.

We were 2 points up at half time, mostly from Kyle McEvoy's accurate free taking and a well struck penalty. To be fair, Clans probably should have been ahead at half time. They had a number of dangerous attacks but could neither take the simple point or manufacture a real goal chance. Couple of bad wides as well.

St Pat's played much the better football in the second half, particularly after Clans were reduced to 14 men after an off the ball incident. We were 4 ahead heading into injury time but gave away a stupid penalty and Clans got the equaliser with the last kick of the match.

Replay on Sunday at 2pm. Senior match between the 2 clubs is off.
Cullyhanna No.6 bit our player. Understandably our man retaliated and rightly so, though the Cullyhanna man hit the deck quicker than Philly Jordan being hit by a fart. The ref of course fell for it...

I have lost an awful amount of what little respect I had for Cullyhanna after tonight. Our players were kicked, spat at, punched and fouled. Right from throw-in this went on, with Cullyhanna supporters even getting involved. I am not as naive to think that we weren't in for a good hard game, but tonight was a disgrace and whats worse the ref couldn't even handle it...

A very soft penalty for Pat's in the first half when the mans momentum carried him into the area, though they maybe should have had another goal when they missed a one-on-one. Our downfall was missing easy frees and then conceding soft ones at the other end where we were punished by their accurate free taking. No denying we got out of jail tonight, mixed feelings as we never got out of second gear and fell for a lot of Cullyhanna's cynical tactics. Look forward to the replay  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 29, 2009, 10:47:11 PM
How do you know that anybody was bit or spat at? Were you fit to see everything that happened everywhere on the pitch?! You come on making wild allegations yet the referee and 2 linesmen didn't manage to see all these mythical incidents that you are so well briefed on. If anybody from Clan na Gael had been punched they wouldn't have been long hitting the ground. There were 2 incidents in the match, one where a Clan na Gael man was sent off and another bit of a row along the sideline which I didn't see but again there was a linesman right beside it and no action was taken against anybody from Cullyhanna. I'll take the judgement of 3 nuetral officials over the typical whining of some Clans people.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 29, 2009, 10:58:58 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 29, 2009, 10:47:11 PM
How do you know that anybody was bit or spat at? Were you fit to see everything that happened everywhere on the pitch?! You come on making wild allegations yet the referee and 2 linesmen didn't manage to see all these mythical incidents that you are so well briefed on. If anybody from Clan na Gael had been punched they wouldn't have been long hitting the ground. There were 2 incidents in the match, one where a Clan na Gael man was sent off and another bit of a row along the sideline which I didn't see but again there was a linesman right beside it and no action was taken against anybody from Cullyhanna. I'll take the judgement of 3 nuetral officials over the typical whining of some Clans people.
Shock you didn't see that.

These aren't allegations, I was on the field of play, and I was spat at. I was also kicked off the ball... I'm near positive I didn't dream this incidents up  ::)

I'll also inform you as to what happened when it kicked off at the sideline, beside the Cullyhanna bench (shock). Our player attempted to take a quick sideline and was forcefully stopped from doing so by the subs. This sparked the melee that proceeded, Cullyhanna were clearly the instigators yet in the end a Clans player was booked  ??? Explain that.

This may come as a shock to you, but it is not uncommon for referees and officials to be bias towards/against certain teams. This certainly happened tonight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 29, 2009, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 29, 2009, 10:58:58 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 29, 2009, 10:47:11 PM
How do you know that anybody was bit or spat at? Were you fit to see everything that happened everywhere on the pitch?! You come on making wild allegations yet the referee and 2 linesmen didn't manage to see all these mythical incidents that you are so well briefed on. If anybody from Clan na Gael had been punched they wouldn't have been long hitting the ground. There were 2 incidents in the match, one where a Clan na Gael man was sent off and another bit of a row along the sideline which I didn't see but again there was a linesman right beside it and no action was taken against anybody from Cullyhanna. I'll take the judgement of 3 nuetral officials over the typical whining of some Clans people.
Shock you didn't see that.

These aren't allegations, I was on the field of play, and I was spat at. I was also kicked off the ball... I'm near positive I didn't dream this incidents up  ::)

I'll also inform you as to what happened when it kicked off at the sideline, beside the Cullyhanna bench (shock). Our player attempted to take a quick sideline and was forcefully stopped from doing so by the subs. This sparked the melee that proceeded, Cullyhanna were clearly the instigators yet in the end a Clans player was booked  ??? Explain that.

This may come as a shock to you, but it is not uncommon for referees and officials to be bias towards/against certain teams. This certainly happened tonight.

Not that much of a shock, I was umpiring at the far goal.

The most obvious explanation would be that the linesman looked at the situation, deserved that the behaviour of the Clan na Gael deserved a yellow card but that nobody from Cullyhanna had done anything wrong. Probably a similar enough process to what happend when Clan na Gael had their man sent off. And its a lot more common for players and supporters to be talking nonsense about biased referees than to actually come across one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 29, 2009, 11:10:00 PM
Of course it is cliche for me as a Clansman to complain about referees, but tonight was a poor performance. I think he definetely favoured Cullyhanna though seemed at the end to give us a few soft decisions to try and make up for earlier. The Cullyhanna penalty was a stonewall 13m free, was disgusted at that when he gave that decision. Also, there are plenty of biased referees out there, and would you believe it or not, not all of them are out to get the Clans  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: curvey on July 29, 2009, 11:18:44 PM
I was at the game tonight and i don't think the ref was that bad, he got a few big decisions wrong but they evened themselves up and i think a draw was a fair result. Callahan's penalty decision was 5 meters outside the box and his momentum carried him into the box, the Clans penalty at the end of the match was a very harsh decision too so i reckon they evened themselves out. The Clans missed awful scoreable chances from free's whereas Cullyhanna's no 15 popped everything over.

Clans defensively weren't to bad but were bossed out of it around the middle and up front were brutal. As for the sending off he deserved to go as the linesman seen him striking and so did i, the lad that was sent off was bitten...thats fact but the ref didn't see it nor did the linesman, you can't send someone off for something they didn't see.

One point I'd like to know..........How the f**k can you postpone a senior match because of a B match replay.......WTF
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on July 29, 2009, 11:24:59 PM
Tis strange indeed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 29, 2009, 11:26:44 PM
Quote from: curvey on July 29, 2009, 11:18:44 PM
I was at the game tonight and i don't think the ref was that bad, he got a few big decisions wrong but they evened themselves up and i think a draw was a fair result. Callahan's penalty decision was 5 meters outside the box and his momentum carried him into the box, the Clans penalty at the end of the match was a very harsh decision too so i reckon they evened themselves out. The Clans missed awful scoreable chances from free's whereas Cullyhanna's no 15 popped everything over.

Clans defensively weren't to bad but were bossed out of it around the middle and up front were brutal. As for the sending off he deserved to go as the linesman seen him striking and so did i, the lad that was sent off was bitten...thats fact but the ref didn't see it nor did the linesman, you can't send someone off for something they didn't see.

One point I'd like to know..........How the f**k can you postpone a senior match because of a B match replay.......WTF

If you're the chair of the county board ya can do whatever ya want!

Strange one alright. Can only assume there was another reason to call off the senior match. Not sure what though - hadn't heard anything. Unless they want the B championship to finish on time given that the senior and minor championships are still to start and the u21 championship isn't near finished.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 29, 2009, 11:28:14 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 29, 2009, 11:26:44 PM
Quote from: curvey on July 29, 2009, 11:18:44 PM
I was at the game tonight and i don't think the ref was that bad, he got a few big decisions wrong but they evened themselves up and i think a draw was a fair result. Callahan's penalty decision was 5 meters outside the box and his momentum carried him into the box, the Clans penalty at the end of the match was a very harsh decision too so i reckon they evened themselves out. The Clans missed awful scoreable chances from free's whereas Cullyhanna's no 15 popped everything over.

Clans defensively weren't to bad but were bossed out of it around the middle and up front were brutal. As for the sending off he deserved to go as the linesman seen him striking and so did i, the lad that was sent off was bitten...thats fact but the ref didn't see it nor did the linesman, you can't send someone off for something they didn't see.

One point I'd like to know..........How the f**k can you postpone a senior match because of a B match replay.......WTF

If you're the chair of the county board ya can do whatever ya want!

Strange one alright. Can only assume there was another reason to call off the senior match. Not sure what though - hadn't heard anything. Unless they want the B championship to finish on time given that the senior and minor championships are still to start and the u21 championship isn't near finished.
I heard before the match tonight that the senior game was off...don't know why though  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: curvey on July 29, 2009, 11:34:28 PM
The sensible thing would have been to play extra time and finish the bloody match and then the senior match could have went ahead as normal, afterall we were playing in a ground with the best flood lights in the county.......F**king use them ya useless county board twats.

The replay should be interesting as the clans will feel they can't play as bad again and St Pats will feel they left it behind them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 30, 2009, 12:15:15 AM
was at the match myself tonight lads and we were lucky to get out of jail after being brought down to the level of cullyhanna and under performing ourselves.  This was obviously their tactic from the off and it almost worked out for them.
Clans forward line didnt get going at all while cullyhanna dominated around the middle, with their number 15 scoring some cracker frees from distance.

My view of the sending off incident.
The cullyhanna number six was flattened by a late tackle around the middle as play went on with cullyhanna attacking.  He received some treatment and got up in a rage about the late tackle.  He then proceeded to mark his man and play continued.  I decided i would watch what way he reacts instead of followig play.  He clearly began standing down the backs of his markers ankles and then bit him on the shoulder.  The clans man imeadiately swung but missed him with his right then caught him with his left.  Clearly both deserved to go but the linesman (not the ref) only saw the punch.

I personally thought the ref was average but began to lose control towards the end.  The ref certainly wouldnt have lost us the match...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on July 30, 2009, 08:09:33 AM
The County Chairman can not put a game off. It has to be done by C.C.C.
If you are going to make "bitchy" remarks ,make sure they are right. :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on July 30, 2009, 08:27:50 AM
Quote from: curvey on July 29, 2009, 11:34:28 PM
The sensible thing would have been to play extra time and finish the bloody match and then the senior match could have went ahead as normal, afterall we were playing in a ground with the best flood lights in the county.......F**king use them ya useless county board t**ts.

The replay should be interesting as the clans will feel they can't play as bad again and St Pats will feel they left it behind them

when the ref blew for full time he said there was going to be extra time, but then the county board members over-ruled that and said it would have to be a replay... don't unterstand why couldn't play extra time, we played extra time in the south armagh B final....

cullyhanna played ok last night but felt our fowards underperformed with only our free taking keeping us in the match and will be hoping for an improvement on sunday!...

the clans penalty should never been given, the big fellow went down like a sack of spuds when he had knowwhere to go and about 4 st pats players between him an goal!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 30, 2009, 08:47:13 AM
Quote from: flog the lot on July 30, 2009, 08:27:50 AM
Quote from: curvey on July 29, 2009, 11:34:28 PM
The sensible thing would have been to play extra time and finish the bloody match and then the senior match could have went ahead as normal, afterall we were playing in a ground with the best flood lights in the county.......F**king use them ya useless county board t**ts.

The replay should be interesting as the clans will feel they can't play as bad again and St Pats will feel they left it behind them

when the ref blew for full time he said there was going to be extra time, but then the county board members over-ruled that and said it would have to be a replay... don't unterstand why couldn't play extra time, we played extra time in the south armagh B final....

cullyhanna played ok last night but felt our fowards underperformed with only our free taking keeping us in the match and will be hoping for an improvement on sunday!...

the clans penalty should never been given, the big fellow went down like a sack of spuds when he had knowwhere to go and about 4 st pats players between him an goal!


although i was glad to see it, i didnt think it was a penalty either. so both penalties were dubious.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 30, 2009, 09:31:49 AM
Quote from: JUst retired on July 30, 2009, 08:09:33 AM
The County Chairman can not put a game off. It has to be done by C.C.C.
If you are going to make "bitchy" remarks ,make sure they are right. :o

Who mentioned the county chairman? your jumping to conclusions because the county chairman is a Clans man (well that's the rumour anyway), he prob wasn't even at the match. It was some other old fart that came over to the ref after the match to tell him he couldn't play extra time (dunno who it was, the man was about 70)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 30, 2009, 09:45:44 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 30, 2009, 09:31:49 AM
Quote from: JUst retired on July 30, 2009, 08:09:33 AM
The County Chairman can not put a game off. It has to be done by C.C.C.
If you are going to make "bitchy" remarks ,make sure they are right. :o

Who mentioned the county chairman? your jumping to conclusions because the county chairman is a Clans man (well that's the rumour anyway), he prob wasn't even at the match. It was some other old fart that came over to the ref after the match to tell him he couldn't play extra time (dunno who it was, the man was about 70)

the fella wearing the ulster council top?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 30, 2009, 10:27:36 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on July 30, 2009, 09:45:44 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 30, 2009, 09:31:49 AM
Quote from: JUst retired on July 30, 2009, 08:09:33 AM
The County Chairman can not put a game off. It has to be done by C.C.C.
If you are going to make "bitchy" remarks ,make sure they are right. :o

Who mentioned the county chairman? your jumping to conclusions because the county chairman is a Clans man (well that's the rumour anyway), he prob wasn't even at the match. It was some other old fart that came over to the ref after the match to tell him he couldn't play extra time (dunno who it was, the man was about 70)

the fella wearing the ulster council top?

Correct saan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 30, 2009, 11:32:57 AM
FOA Dromintee folk online.

http://www.dromintee.com/

Looks good, hopefully the bottom field gets sorted too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 30, 2009, 11:47:27 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 30, 2009, 11:32:57 AM
FOA Dromintee folk online.

http://www.dromintee.com/

Looks good, hopefully the bottom field gets sorted too.

How will Dromintee fare in this years Lucozade Sport SFC?

Winners
27     39.1%    

Quarter Finalists
16     23.2%    

Runners Up
12     17.4%    

Semi Finalists
9     13%    

:D :D :D :D :D

And when you click on Map it brings up Nigeria!!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 30, 2009, 11:50:29 AM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 30, 2009, 11:47:27 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 30, 2009, 11:32:57 AM
FOA Dromintee folk online.

http://www.dromintee.com/

Looks good, hopefully the bottom field gets sorted too.

How will Dromintee fare in this years Lucozade Sport SFC?

Winners
27     39.1%    

Quarter Finalists
16     23.2%    

Runners Up
12     17.4%    

Semi Finalists
9     13%    

:D :D :D :D :D

And when you click on Map it brings up Nigeria!!  :D

Indeed early teething problems.

Should you not be getting ready for court? Pity you got caught robbing Eire Og the other day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 30, 2009, 11:53:18 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 30, 2009, 11:50:29 AM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 30, 2009, 11:47:27 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 30, 2009, 11:32:57 AM
FOA Dromintee folk online.

http://www.dromintee.com/

Looks good, hopefully the bottom field gets sorted too.

How will Dromintee fare in this years Lucozade Sport SFC?

Winners
27     39.1%    

Quarter Finalists
16     23.2%    

Runners Up
12     17.4%    

Semi Finalists
9     13%    

:D :D :D :D :D

And when you click on Map it brings up Nigeria!!  :D

Indeed early teething problems.

Should you not be getting ready for court? Pity you got caught robbing Eire Og the other day.

Very good, that's a good one... Despite the fact that I was in work during the whole thing!

So all the ones from your club think you are going to win the Championship??

For the record i voted quarter finalists.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 30, 2009, 12:12:55 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 30, 2009, 11:53:18 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 30, 2009, 11:50:29 AM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 30, 2009, 11:47:27 AM
Quote from: corn02 on July 30, 2009, 11:32:57 AM
FOA Dromintee folk online.

http://www.dromintee.com/

Looks good, hopefully the bottom field gets sorted too.

How will Dromintee fare in this years Lucozade Sport SFC?

Winners
27     39.1%    

Quarter Finalists
16     23.2%    

Runners Up
12     17.4%    

Semi Finalists
9     13%    

:D :D :D :D :D

And when you click on Map it brings up Nigeria!!  :D

Indeed early teething problems.

Should you not be getting ready for court? Pity you got caught robbing Eire Og the other day.

Very good, that's a good one... Despite the fact that I was in work during the whole thing!


Hmm convinient. You and Charlie Stubbs up to no good.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on July 30, 2009, 12:30:31 PM

Hard to beat the inoocent
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on July 30, 2009, 01:12:35 PM
Man in court over GAA armed robbery

A 24-year-old man is due in court on Thursday charged in connection with an armed robbery at a gaelic club near Craigavon.
Thursday, 30 July 2009

Three masked men tied up a pensioner during the robbery at the Eire Og club on the Tullygally East Road on Monday.

The gang then made off with up to £10, 000.

Two men, aged 25 and 28, have been released on bail pending further inquiries.

The 24-year-old, who is charged with robbery, will appear before Craigavon Magistrates Court later.

Heard on the lunchtime news that it was Christopher Carlisle. The name will be familiar to people in the area. Apparently he was spotted spending loads of money in Lifestyle Sports a few hours after the robbery. Sounds like a chip of the old block.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Our Nail Loney on July 30, 2009, 01:20:42 PM
Quote from: Donagh on July 30, 2009, 01:12:35 PM
Man in court over GAA armed robbery

A 24-year-old man is due in court on Thursday charged in connection with an armed robbery at a gaelic club near Craigavon.
Thursday, 30 July 2009

Three masked men tied up a pensioner during the robbery at the Eire Og club on the Tullygally East Road on Monday.

The gang then made off with up to £10, 000.

Two men, aged 25 and 28, have been released on bail pending further inquiries.

The 24-year-old, who is charged with robbery, will appear before Craigavon Magistrates Court later.

Heard on the lunchtime news that it was Christopher Carlisle. The name will be familiar to people in the area. Apparently he was spotted spending loads of money in Lifestyle Sports a few hours after the robbery. Sounds like a chip of the old block.

Was in primary school in my year, a sc**bag then and even more so now. Not suprised one bit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 30, 2009, 01:27:07 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 30, 2009, 01:20:42 PM
Quote from: Donagh on July 30, 2009, 01:12:35 PM
Man in court over GAA armed robbery

A 24-year-old man is due in court on Thursday charged in connection with an armed robbery at a gaelic club near Craigavon.
Thursday, 30 July 2009

Three masked men tied up a pensioner during the robbery at the Eire Og club on the Tullygally East Road on Monday.

The gang then made off with up to £10, 000.

Two men, aged 25 and 28, have been released on bail pending further inquiries.

The 24-year-old, who is charged with robbery, will appear before Craigavon Magistrates Court later.

Heard on the lunchtime news that it was Christopher Carlisle. The name will be familiar to people in the area. Apparently he was spotted spending loads of money in Lifestyle Sports a few hours after the robbery. Sounds like a chip of the old block.

Was in primary school in my year, a sc**bag then and even more so now. Not suprised one bit.

jim arrested too i heard
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on July 30, 2009, 01:30:16 PM
Quote from: Our Nail Loney on July 30, 2009, 01:20:42 PM
Was in primary school in my year, a sc**bag then and even more so now. Not suprised one bit.

Had a number of run-ins with the da and brother over the years. Utter filth the both of them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 30, 2009, 01:46:26 PM
complete scumbags should have been brought to dromintee years ago but not for a match. 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 30, 2009, 02:16:57 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 29, 2009, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 29, 2009, 10:58:58 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 29, 2009, 10:47:11 PM
How do you know that anybody was bit or spat at? Were you fit to see everything that happened everywhere on the pitch?! You come on making wild allegations yet the referee and 2 linesmen didn't manage to see all these mythical incidents that you are so well briefed on. If anybody from Clan na Gael had been punched they wouldn't have been long hitting the ground. There were 2 incidents in the match, one where a Clan na Gael man was sent off and another bit of a row along the sideline which I didn't see but again there was a linesman right beside it and no action was taken against anybody from Cullyhanna. I'll take the judgement of 3 nuetral officials over the typical whining of some Clans people.
Shock you didn't see that.

These aren't allegations, I was on the field of play, and I was spat at. I was also kicked off the ball... I'm near positive I didn't dream this incidents up  ::)

I'll also inform you as to what happened when it kicked off at the sideline, beside the Cullyhanna bench (shock). Our player attempted to take a quick sideline and was forcefully stopped from doing so by the subs. This sparked the melee that proceeded, Cullyhanna were clearly the instigators yet in the end a Clans player was booked  ??? Explain that.

This may come as a shock to you, but it is not uncommon for referees and officials to be bias towards/against certain teams. This certainly happened tonight.

Not that much of a shock, I was umpiring at the far goal.

The most obvious explanation would be that the linesman looked at the situation, deserved that the behaviour of the Clan na Gael deserved a yellow card but that nobody from Cullyhanna had done anything wrong. Probably a similar enough process to what happend when Clan na Gael had their man sent off. And its a lot more common for players and supporters to be talking nonsense about biased referees than to actually come across one.


Was behind the dugout incident and the Clans player was dragged over the wire by st. Pats subs, the clans player that was sent off was def bitten and bitten badly. Anyone who bites someone on a Gaelic field in my opinion deserves a smack in the mouth at the very least, its dirty and dangerous. On the match however I thought it poor enough and thought Clans lucky to get away with draw although they deserved bit of luck due to decisions that went against them. Neither penalty was a penalty. ABSOLUTE JOKE THAT A B MATCH CAUSES AN IMPORTANT SENIOR MATCH TO BE POSTPONED! ONLY IN THIS COUNTY!! >:( >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 30, 2009, 03:06:31 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 30, 2009, 01:46:26 PM
complete scumbags should have been brought to dromintee years ago but not for a match. 8)

Sure we'd just make them a couple of the famous burgers and let them be on their way.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: LandErIn on July 30, 2009, 03:22:52 PM
Is anyone close to ending Crossmaglen's hold on the Armagh championship?

Are Pearse Og still the closest team to them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 30, 2009, 03:23:12 PM
Just on the scheduling issue, it seems as though the senior match must have been called off before the B match. I find it hard to believe that one man (Joe Jordan I think?) would have just made a split second decision to call off a match to replace it with a B match.There must have been some reason the senior match was off though I'm not aware of anything from the Cullyhanna side.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 30, 2009, 03:23:34 PM
Quote from: LandErIn on July 30, 2009, 03:22:52 PM
Is anyone close to ending Crossmaglen's hold on the Armagh championship?

Are Pearse Og still the closest team to them.

No.

Yes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 30, 2009, 03:26:55 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 30, 2009, 01:46:26 PM
complete scumbags should have been brought to dromintee years ago but not for a match. 8)
Agree, f**king lowlife scum. Chip off the old block indeed  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 30, 2009, 04:13:47 PM
Just on the biting issue the lad that does the biting seems to get away scot free and the lad that hit back for being bit is punished, there is not too many guys here could say if they were bitten by someone that they wouldn't react to it. This isn't the first incident as a Silverbridge lad bit one of the Whitcross players earlier in the season and with a similar reaction the Whitcross guy got up and buried the head in the Silverbridge guy...same scenario whitecross man is off and the gypsy from Silverbridge is not punished...WTF

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 30, 2009, 04:55:50 PM
I dont know very many people that wouldnt react to a bite from someone on the field
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 30, 2009, 04:56:28 PM
Quote from: full back on July 30, 2009, 04:55:50 PM
I dont know very many people that wouldnt react to a bite from someone on the field

Some would enjoy it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 30, 2009, 04:59:01 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 30, 2009, 04:56:28 PM
Quote from: full back on July 30, 2009, 04:55:50 PM
I dont know very many people that wouldnt react to a bite from someone on the field

Some would enjoy it.

Would you enjoy it corn?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 30, 2009, 05:18:30 PM
Quote from: full back on July 30, 2009, 04:59:01 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 30, 2009, 04:56:28 PM
Quote from: full back on July 30, 2009, 04:55:50 PM
I dont know very many people that wouldnt react to a bite from someone on the field

Some would enjoy it.

Would you enjoy it corn?

Depends what they were chewing on Corn...isn't that right chief ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pats-mc on July 30, 2009, 05:22:20 PM
Just to clarify a few things ref the second alleged incident last night at the dugout which I was about two foot away from at the time.

Our player was hit with a late tackle in the back from a Clans player just before he fell out over the line with the ball in his hand. The referee in one of the few decisions he got right in the second half gave us a free and our player attempted to get up to take it quickly. the clans player stood on him to prevent him from getting up and our subs stopped him from doing so. At no time was he pulled over the wire. Your manager came charging into the middle of all and was held back by one our players.
The linesman was on the scene and the referee and a county board official none of whom could see anything thing wrong. The Clan Na Gael player was booked our subs told to sit in the dugout and that was it.

On the game as a whole I think that both teams were fairly even throughout and the referee while making some comical decisions at times(Our midfielder getting hit with an elbow in the middle of the pitch at one stage allowwing play to go on was laughable if it wasnt so serious) but in fairness to him I think he was even enough to both teams. Clans penalty was no penalty but on reflection ours was on the very edge of the area (Sorry thats as far as my bias allows me to go).

On the sending off The Clans player was caught and the Cullyhanna man ended up in hospital. Both teams played on  the edge of the rules on the night. Both teams played some good football at times and the last three subs that came on for Clans made a difference just as the cullyhanna subs dis as well. Any word where the replay is on sunday as I think that there is a double header in The Athletic Grounds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 30, 2009, 05:31:09 PM
All i know is there is a hurling match on at 6, i'd assume there is another one before-hand...

The match will end up in Keady, Abbey Park/Ballycrummie depending on availability...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 30, 2009, 05:39:26 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on July 30, 2009, 05:22:20 PM
On the sending off The Clans player was caught and the Cullyhanna man ended up in hospital.

What happened to him he ended up in hospital?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 30, 2009, 06:13:55 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 30, 2009, 04:56:28 PM
Quote from: full back on July 30, 2009, 04:55:50 PM
I dont know very many people that wouldnt react to a bite from someone on the field

Some would enjoy it.


Think id quite enjoy biting you corn! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 30, 2009, 09:58:18 PM
Quote from: full back on July 30, 2009, 05:39:26 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on July 30, 2009, 05:22:20 PM
On the sending off The Clans player was caught and the Cullyhanna man ended up in hospital.


What happened to him he ended up in hospital?
only guessing but I'd say either a broken jaw/cheek, broken nose but definately stitches for that gash
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on July 30, 2009, 11:49:11 PM
i think the b match is being played instead of league game due to fact the county board would want the b championship finished before the senior championship starts. Anyone who plays in this years senior championship would not be eligible for the b champ and would be an awful thing if some lad played all the b champ and then missed final cos he played in first round of senior champ.

p.s. the south armagh b final was also replayed before going to extra time in the replay.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 31, 2009, 12:55:24 PM
St Pats v Clan na Gael replay in the B championship semi final will be played in Ballymacnab on Sunday evening at 6:00
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 31, 2009, 03:19:23 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 30, 2009, 06:13:55 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 30, 2009, 04:56:28 PM
Quote from: full back on July 30, 2009, 04:55:50 PM
I dont know very many people that wouldnt react to a bite from someone on the field

Some would enjoy it.


Think id quite enjoy biting you corn! ;D

My c**k no doubt?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on July 31, 2009, 04:17:21 PM
Predictions on An Portmor v St Michaels?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on July 31, 2009, 04:22:23 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on July 31, 2009, 04:17:21 PM
Predictions on An Portmor v St Michaels?

St Michaels by 17
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 31, 2009, 04:31:26 PM
going by the first match which was crap 0/4 to 0/3 to bwt worst forwards ever on each team except bwt no14 and that includes o rourke >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 31, 2009, 05:19:23 PM
Quote from: pats-mc on July 30, 2009, 05:22:20 PM
On the sending off The Clans player was caught and the Cullyhanna man ended up in hospital.
Make sure that boy gets his sunday dinner
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on July 31, 2009, 09:45:21 PM
sarsfields beat cruppen by 2 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 31, 2009, 09:47:20 PM
any word on Killeavy v Culloville
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 31, 2009, 09:58:55 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 31, 2009, 09:47:20 PM
any word on Killeavy v Culloville

Cullaville by a point.

Referee apparently gave Killeavy the dodgiest of goals and the Blues hit five in reply.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 31, 2009, 10:01:04 PM
f**k that put's an awful pressure on Killeavey now.  Will Dromintee do their friendly neighbours a favour on Sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on July 31, 2009, 10:04:23 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 31, 2009, 10:01:04 PM
f**k that put's an awful pressure on Killeavey now.  Will Dromintee do their friendly neighbours a favour on Sunday?

The way we have been playing and the way they hammered us earlier in the year would make me think they are favourites.

As for doing them a favour? Go away and shite.  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 31, 2009, 10:10:05 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 31, 2009, 10:04:23 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 31, 2009, 10:01:04 PM
f**k that put's an awful pressure on Killeavey now.  Will Dromintee do their friendly neighbours a favour on Sunday?

The way we have been playing and the way they hammered us earlier in the year would make me think they are favourites.

As for doing them a favour? Go away and shite.  :P

I didn't think so.   ;)

Another wee win for Cullaville against Mullaghbawn on Sunday would make things very interesting
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on July 31, 2009, 10:16:49 PM
I make the table after tonights results;

Crossmaglen      15   15   0     0   30 (Champions)
Pearse Og         15     8   2     5   18
Carrickcruppen   16     7   2     7  16
St Patrick's        15     7   1     7   15
Sarsfields          16     7   1     8    15
Dromintee         15     7   0     8   14
Clan na Gael      15     6   1     8    13
Killeavy             15     5   1     9    11
Mullaghbawn     15     5   1     9    11
Culloville            15     4   1   10    9

I think from Sarsfields up are now practically safe. Two big games on Sunday, Dromintee v Killeavy and Cullovile v Mullabawn will decide a lot.

Unbelievable to think Culloville could still get out of it having won their first game in 10.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on July 31, 2009, 10:23:09 PM
Quote from: Donagh on July 30, 2009, 01:12:35 PM
Man in court over GAA armed robbery

A 24-year-old man is due in court on Thursday charged in connection with an armed robbery at a gaelic club near Craigavon.
Thursday, 30 July 2009

Three masked men tied up a pensioner during the robbery at the Eire Og club on the Tullygally East Road on Monday.

The gang then made off with up to £10, 000.

Two men, aged 25 and 28, have been released on bail pending further inquiries.

The 24-year-old, who is charged with robbery, will appear before Craigavon Magistrates Court later.

Heard on the lunchtime news that it was Christopher Carlisle. The name will be familiar to people in the area. Apparently he was spotted spending loads of money in Lifestyle Sports a few hours after the robbery. Sounds like a chip of the old block.

the lifestyle sports in rushmere has been closed a few weeks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 31, 2009, 10:56:04 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 31, 2009, 10:04:23 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 31, 2009, 10:01:04 PM
f**k that put's an awful pressure on Killeavey now.  Will Dromintee do their friendly neighbours a favour on Sunday?

The way we have been playing and the way they hammered us earlier in the year would make me think they are favourites.

As for doing them a favour? Go away and shite.  :P

Is this the same way Culloville were favourites against Dromintee a few weeks ago?  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Real Davo on August 01, 2009, 12:19:37 AM
Think its gona be a pick between, killeavey,mullabawn and cullaville for the drop! Think sarsfields mite hav done enuf along wit dromintee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 01, 2009, 03:15:37 AM
granemore beat ballyhegan by 5 pts , played in very poor conditions , refeere v o, neill turned a blind eye to several challenges made by  ballyhegan players and gave them most of the decisions but a wins a win  :) , also noticed aiden o,rourke at the game which was a poor enough match with both sides understrength .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 01, 2009, 11:08:43 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 31, 2009, 10:56:04 PM
Quote from: corn02 on July 31, 2009, 10:04:23 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 31, 2009, 10:01:04 PM
f**k that put's an awful pressure on Killeavey now.  Will Dromintee do their friendly neighbours a favour on Sunday?

The way we have been playing and the way they hammered us earlier in the year would make me think they are favourites.

As for doing them a favour? Go away and shite.  :P

Is this the same way Culloville were favourites against Dromintee a few weeks ago?  ::)

Killeavy beat us by 10 or so points just a few weeks back. They beat us home and away last year too.

We were beaten by Sarsfields by seven last week too.

I think we have had two wins in six games or something.

We have a shocking number of injuries and unavailable players.

So I don't think it is that stupid to be honest.

But if it annoyed you so much. ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 01, 2009, 11:10:35 AM
Quote from: torres on August 01, 2009, 03:15:37 AM
granemore beat ballyhegan by 5 pts , played in very poor conditions , refeere v o, neill turned a blind eye to several challenges made by  ballyhegan players and gave them most of the decisions but a wins a win  :) , also noticed aiden o,rourke at the game which was a poor enough match with both sides understrength .

Sweet Jesus, wee edit needed me thinks.

Was Aidan there? I know that the side are taking the Granemore challenge extremely seriously.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 01, 2009, 11:38:03 AM
Granemore are more than capable of beating of Dromintee and are well up for it from what I hear.  Unfortunately we are in the same position as Dromintee with players away and being unavailable, the Nab will more than fancy their chances against us in our current condition.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 01, 2009, 11:44:14 AM
Quote from: corn02 on August 01, 2009, 11:10:35 AM
Quote from: torres on August 01, 2009, 03:15:37 AM
granemore beat ballyhegan by 5 pts , played in very poor conditions , refeere v o, neill turned a blind eye to several challenges made by  ballyhegan players and gave them most of the decisions but a wins a win  :) , also noticed aiden o,rourke at the game which was a poor enough match with both sides understrength .

Sweet Jesus, wee edit needed me thinks.

Was Aidan there? I know that the side are taking the Granemore challenge extremely seriously.

Right enough. I'm hoping that's a genuine mistake and not malicious but if it is, catch yourself on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 01, 2009, 11:58:33 AM
The bottom of the league gets more interesting every week...I think Culloville will beat Mullaghbawn tomorrow and that will certainly put the cat among the pigeons :D. The Clans have no match this weekend but play Killeavey at home next friday night which is another massive game for both clubs, if Clans can win that one i reckon they'll be safe and Killeavey could be in trouble.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 01, 2009, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 01, 2009, 11:44:14 AM
Quote from: corn02 on August 01, 2009, 11:10:35 AM
Quote from: torres on August 01, 2009, 03:15:37 AM
granemore beat ballyhegan by 5 pts , played in very poor conditions , refeere v o, neill turned a blind eye to several challenges made by  ballyhegan players and gave them most of the decisions but a wins a win  :) , also noticed aiden o,rourke at the game which was a poor enough match with both sides understrength .

Sweet Jesus, wee edit needed me thinks.

Was Aidan there? I know that the side are taking the Granemore challenge extremely seriously.

Right enough. I'm hoping that's a genuine mistake and not malicious but if it is, catch yourself on.
yeah it was as i was rushing to get out ,but very poor refeering overall  by this offical .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on August 01, 2009, 02:48:29 PM
st pats beating cruppen last weekend could put an end to there good run.Its a bad time to be taking a dip in form with the ogs just around the corner in the c ship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on August 01, 2009, 06:23:23 PM
i heard that the mullabawn game is called off on sunday. did anyone else hear this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 01, 2009, 10:34:53 PM
Cross 2nds beat Derrynoose by about 12 points in junior championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on August 01, 2009, 10:39:18 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 01, 2009, 10:34:53 PM
Cross 2nds beat Derrynoose by about 12 points in junior championship

BIG BIG surprise Crossfire?  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on August 01, 2009, 11:01:18 PM
Heard it was Cross 3.15 Noose 0.10
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 02, 2009, 12:31:04 PM
Clans v St Pats now in Blackwatertown at 6 instead of Ballymcnab. I assume Blackwatertown is An Port Mor?

The teletext gives the Mullaghbawn game off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 02, 2009, 01:11:56 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 02, 2009, 12:31:04 PM
Clans v St Pats now in Blackwatertown at 6 instead of Ballymcnab. I assume Blackwatertown is An Port Mor?

The teletext gives the Mullaghbawn game off.

correct saan, but why the late change?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on August 02, 2009, 01:25:25 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 01, 2009, 10:34:53 PM
Cross 2nds beat Derrynoose by about 12 points in junior championship

How many of the first team actually played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PatDaly on August 02, 2009, 03:56:08 PM
Big win for Dromintee against Killeavy. Final score 0-14 to 0-10
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on August 02, 2009, 04:01:42 PM
Think it was Dromintee 0-14 Killeavy 1-08 in the end Pat.

Real gutsy display from Dromintee today, a dogged performance to grind out the win. Maybe if Killeavy had actually tried to play football they would have had a chance of getting something from the game. Instead they seemed more concerned with dirty tactics, throwing sneaky thumps, their own linesman giving blatant incorrect decisions their way and not to mention the amateur theatrics in particular from a member of their full back line.

I'm sure they regretted that when they looked up at the scoreboard when the final whistle went.

Thats us mathematically safe now, thank God. It's been a rollercoaster of a league for us and thankfully we can now concentrate on the championship.

Killeavy are in big trouble it looks like. How sad  :'( 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on August 02, 2009, 07:47:00 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 02, 2009, 12:31:04 PM
Clans v St Pats now in Blackwatertown at 6 instead of Ballymcnab. I assume Blackwatertown is An Port Mor?

The teletext gives the Mullaghbawn game off.


Cullyhanna by 1.

Clans are mouths, 2 redded after the game, good enough for them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 02, 2009, 08:07:32 PM
Yep clans were beaten by a point. Fair play to cullyhanna, they played well and deserved their win in the end. The high ball tactic in the second half worked for them. Good luck to them in the final.

The two reds at the end were for slabbering at the ref who failed to give the most blatant free kick ever as the clans were on the attack searching for an equaliser. The less I say about the ref the better. Wouldn't want to appear a slabber too!! He didn't lose us the game, we did that by ourselves.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 02, 2009, 08:09:32 PM
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on August 02, 2009, 07:47:00 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 02, 2009, 12:31:04 PM
Clans v St Pats now in Blackwatertown at 6 instead of Ballymcnab. I assume Blackwatertown is An Port Mor?

The teletext gives the Mullaghbawn game off.


Cullyhanna by 1.

Clans are mouths, 2 redded after the game, good enough for them.

Was it 2? Seen the big ginger haired lad getting a red card. Didn't see the other. Thought he would have given a free at the end right enough though it was probably shoulder to shoulder. The free to Clans a minute before for overcarrying was very very harsh.

Great to get the win. Poor first half but we produced a lot better in the second and Paul Toner's goal was the decisive score. Kyle McEvoy scored a couple of great points and Martin McQuillan did well when he came on, some good direct balls into the full forward line. Neil McConville at midfield was probably the man of the match.

Pearse Ógs in the final now. I think its on Sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 02, 2009, 08:41:15 PM
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on August 02, 2009, 07:47:00 PM
Cullyhanna by 1.
Clans are mouths, 2 redded after the game, good enough for them.
Good enough indeed! Who are they in their right mind to question the ref after his sterling display! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 02, 2009, 08:49:25 PM
Crossmaglen     15   15   0     0   30 (Champions)
Pearse Og        15     8   2     5   18
Carrickcruppen  16     7   2     7   16
Dromintee        16     8   0     8   16
St Patrick's       15     7   1     7   15
Sarsfields          16     7   1     8   15
Clan na Gael      15     6   1     8   13
Killeavy             16     5   1    10  11
Mullaghbawn     15     5   1    9    11
Culloville            15     4   1   10    9


that leaves it that both culloville and killeavy can get a maximum on 15 points so 16 points is the magic number to be safe. Not sure of the remaining fixtures.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 02, 2009, 09:04:49 PM
Any word on Rangers v Ógs or why the Mullaghbán game was called off?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 02, 2009, 09:06:54 PM
Division 1 Cross beat Ogs by 2.
Ogs were winning by 2, ten minutes into second half,but had a man sent off which probably cost them the match.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 02, 2009, 09:14:56 PM
Remaining fixtures

Clan Na Gael -v- St. Patricks 
Cullaville  -v-  Mullabawn 
Carrickcruppin  -v- Mullabawn 
Clan Na Gael  -v- Killeavey 
Crossmaglen  -v- Dromintee 
Sarsfields  -v- Cullaville 
St. Patricks  -v- Pearse Og
Carrickcruppin  -v- Clan Na Gael 
St. Patricks  -v- Crossmaglen
Pearse Og  -v- Cullaville     
Mullabawn  -v- Dromintee     
Sarsfields  -v- Killeavey 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 02, 2009, 09:30:53 PM

Remaining fixtures

Clan Na Gael -v- St. Patricks  Clans
Cullaville  -v-  Mullabawn  Cullaville
Carrickcruppin  -v- Mullabawn  Mullaghbán
Clan Na Gael  -v- Killeavey  Clans
Crossmaglen  -v- Dromintee  Cross
Sarsfields  -v- Cullaville  Sarsfields
St. Patricks  -v- Pearse Og    Ógs
Carrickcruppin  -v- Clan Na Gael  Clans
St. Patricks  -v- Crossmaglen  Cross
Pearse Og  -v- Cullaville     Ógs
Mullabawn  -v- Dromintee    Mullaghban 
Sarsfields  -v- Killeavey  Sarsfields

Those results would put Killeavy and Culloville down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 02, 2009, 10:09:17 PM
Sarsfields I think will finish strongly, probably top four, they have two home games remaining, against Culloville & Killeavy, who I can't see getting an away win out in trasna. Killeavy are conceeding a lot of goals as of late, at least ten in their last 4 games which is worrying for them. Clans have Killeavy, Cruppen and Pat's still to play, 3 tough games but I think one win should see us safe, if against Killeavy then for definite. Mullabawn v Culloville is probably the most important game of the season, personally can't see Mullabawn winning any of their remaining games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 02, 2009, 11:03:44 PM
Who was sent off for ogs? straight red?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 02, 2009, 11:30:37 PM
CLANN EIREANN 1-8 - 0-13 GRANEMORE . ;D

seen earlier on OC that maghery bt whitecross and there was a melee at the end of the game with supporters [ maghery ] running on and hit 2 w-cross players , that post has since been deleted . :o .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on August 03, 2009, 12:21:30 AM
Quote from: qub la la la on August 02, 2009, 11:03:44 PM
Who was sent off for ogs? straight red?

jp donelly straight red. punched rico kelly right in front of the ref!

think he might miss championship now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 03, 2009, 08:33:58 AM
Stupid by jp cost the ogs the game which was there for the taking. at least the ogs have given cross 2 hard games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on August 03, 2009, 09:48:14 AM
Ogs in total control of the game against cross. they were 3 up and then jp donnelly needlessly struck out at kelly which cost them the match. cross won the game during the 10 minutes after the sending off when mcentee pulled the strings. ogs rallied again and came back at cross but it wasnt to be. thought it was a good hard hitting game. both teams will take something from it. unfortunate now that jp will miss probably the remainder of the season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on August 03, 2009, 09:58:57 AM
Quote from: davo on August 03, 2009, 09:48:14 AM
Ogs in total control of the game against cross. they were 3 up and then jp donnelly needlessly struck out at kelly which cost them the match. cross won the game during the 10 minutes after the sending off when mcentee pulled the strings. ogs rallied again and came back at cross but it wasnt to be. thought it was a good hard hitting game. both teams will take something from it. unfortunate now that jp will miss probably the remainder of the season

8 weeks I think
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 03, 2009, 10:30:34 AM
Firstly good luck to Cullyhanna in the final of th B championship next weeknd i think they probably deserved the result last night.

Secondly there my be a few mouths at our club but at least we don't have players spitting in other players faces. About 15 mins into the first half Number 13 of Cullyhanna spit into the face of the clans No 5. This was right in ront ofthe umpire and he did nothing. Our numbr 5 approached the ref at half time to report the incident and was told tha he was lucky to be on the pitch never mind anyone else. Beforethe second half then the ref came down to our number 5 and said tha some of the cullyhanna support had informed him that the number 13 did in fact spit in his face. The ref  then went over and had a word with the no 13 and actually called him a tr**p. No cards were shown. It is really the lowest of the low when you spit in someones face, the week before we had a biting incident what are these animals being taught.


On the issu of relegation if the clans beat Killeavy on fri night the that should be relegaion sorted. Killeavy will only have one match left and can therefore only get 13 points. If culloville loose 1 more they are out of there aswell.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on August 03, 2009, 11:08:22 AM
very surprised that killeavy are in big trouble. it would be a disaster for them to be relegated. i still think they will do enough to at least get into a play off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 03, 2009, 12:22:36 PM
I was speaking to a fella who was at the Maghery v Whitecross game yesterday and he said it was one of the worst row's he'd seen on a football pitch, plenty of scuffles & rows during game, but as soon as the whistle went one of the Maghery midfielders (big tall lad)hit one of the Whitecross players from behind. Full row started, managers, subs, the works. Fair enough, but then the gates at the club end were opened to let the ones from the clubhouse on the field. There were close to 20 or more lads with drink in them kicking like fcuk at Whitecross and this went on for a good 10 mins, at one stage there was a Whitecross lad on his ass surrounded by lads wearing jeans WTF is that all about.

Was there any guys here at that match who could give us their unbiased view on what they seen, I've since heard there was a report from the match on Orchard County (I'm not a member so can't view it)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 03, 2009, 12:34:37 PM
was talking to a maghery man last night, he told me they "put manners on whitecross", i thought he meant that they just beat them well  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on August 03, 2009, 12:43:41 PM
Quote from: davo on August 03, 2009, 11:08:22 AM
very surprised that killeavy are in big trouble. it would be a disaster for them to be relegated. i still think they will do enough to at least get into a play off.

No it wouldn't.  There trampish football doesnt belong in the top 3 divisions of football

On another note.  I didnt get to see the Meath v Limerick game on Saturday but I see the bowl Paudie had to be escorted off the field AGAIN.  Beyond a joke him refereeing at the top level!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 03, 2009, 12:46:33 PM
The Harps and Nudie Hughes have parted company.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 03, 2009, 12:55:46 PM
Strange timing Benny? Chances of promotion were gone weeks ago so why get rid of him now a fortnight before the championship especially when form had improved a bit?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 03, 2009, 01:04:40 PM
No report on orchardcounty saan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 03, 2009, 02:25:07 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 03, 2009, 12:22:36 PM
I was speaking to a fella who was at the Maghery v Whitecross game yesterday and he said it was one of the worst row's he'd seen on a football pitch, plenty of scuffles & rows during game, but as soon as the whistle went one of the Maghery midfielders (big tall lad)hit one of the Whitecross players from behind. Full row started, managers, subs, the works. Fair enough, but then the gates at the club end were opened to let the ones from the clubhouse on the field. There were close to 20 or more lads with drink in them kicking like fcuk at Whitecross and this went on for a good 10 mins, at one stage there was a Whitecross lad on his ass surrounded by lads wearing jeans WTF is that all about.

Was there any guys here at that match who could give us their unbiased view on what they seen, I've since heard there was a report from the match on Orchard County (I'm not a member so can't view it)

as i stated in an earlier post it was up on the board and then it was wiped , since heard that the maghery midfielder [ not lavery ] would,nt shake hands with c mc sherry and began goading him before hitting him , then the other maghery midfielder [ j lavery ] struck a w-cross player a few of the w-cross half-backs got involved and it kicked on from there . think its time the county board did something about all these incidents weve been reading lately before someone is seriously hurt .

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Edgeofthesquare on August 03, 2009, 02:57:40 PM
At half time Maghery had 1 red and 4 yellows, all for fouls commited on Wcross number 9.  It was plain to see Maghery's plan was to cause serious injury to this player so that he will be unavailable for the upcoming championship fixture.  Absolute disgrace some of the antics from Maghery players, management, supporters linesman and umpire.
Some incidents include:
*In the dying minutes as Wcross were chasing a goal, the umpire came onto the pitch and kicked a wcross player while on the ground
*When the final whistle was blown Lavery ran up behind Wcross number 9 and punched him in the back of the head (A cowardly sc**bag act from a player who we pay money to watch play for our county!!) This incident resulted in a full scale malee!
*During this malee drink fueled Maghery supporters came onto the pitch and started assaulting any player wearing green, one of whom used a crutch as a weapon! :o
The referees report would make interesting reading. The county board MUST do something about this!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 03, 2009, 03:18:45 PM
the 3rd sour incident maghery been involved in this year.  was a 30 man brawl against our b team at the start of the year.  their management didnt help the whole situation coming onto the field and trying to fight with some of our minor players then after the incident had been resolved continued to shout up to our bench that "we where going knowhere and neither was our senior team" waz talking to a st.pauls player lastnight and there was an incident with their b team and maghery last week as well.  if this was cullyhanna there would be alot more said
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 03, 2009, 03:25:49 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 03, 2009, 03:18:45 PM
the 3rd sour incident maghery been involved in this year.  was a 30 man brawl against our b team at the start of the year.  their management didnt help the whole situation coming onto the field and trying to fight with some of our minor players then after the incident had been resolved continued to shout up to our bench that "we where going knowhere and neither was our senior team" waz talking to a st.pauls player lastnight and there was an incident with their b team and maghery last week as well.  if this was cullyhanna there would be alot more said
What? how so?

I'll be surprised anything happens.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 03, 2009, 03:29:42 PM
read back over the last few pages...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 03, 2009, 03:32:49 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 03, 2009, 03:29:42 PM
read back over the last few pages...
What at the Clans boys talking about what went on with cullyhanna?

If there were whitecross boys on this board they'd be talking too about it, no one is talking about it because we dont know what happened.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 03, 2009, 03:35:18 PM
suppose thats a fair enough point.  just saying that 3 incidents of this nature in a season 3 too many
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 03, 2009, 03:39:15 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 03, 2009, 03:18:45 PM
the 3rd sour incident maghery been involved in this year.  was a 30 man brawl against our b team at the start of the year.  their management didnt help the whole situation coming onto the field and trying to fight with some of our minor players then after the incident had been resolved continued to shout up to our bench that "we where going knowhere and neither was our senior team" waz talking to a st.pauls player lastnight and there was an incident with their b team and maghery last week as well.  if this was cullyhanna there would be alot more said

It shouldn't matter who it is charlie whether it be a spitting incident or a full scale brawl. The spitting incident could have potentially led to a full scale brawl and could also have led to fella's missing senior championship games through suspension. Incidents like this should all be dealt with severly. This maghery incident should also be punished an not left to fester on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 03, 2009, 03:57:11 PM
Benny i am sure there is happiness in the club now that clown has gone. Maybe that other clown Peter might come back?? please say no. >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 03, 2009, 04:00:19 PM
well from what i heard both teams were at it, not much ball being played, fighting and rowing throughout the game and it obviously boiled over at the end. I wasn't at the match but obviously the whitecross version of events has been given here. however reading what has been said here and from what a maghery man told me it would appear they were the instigators and not whitecross. it makes perfect sense that maghery would try and target whitecross' key players when maghery themselves have a no. of injuries and key men out for their SFC tie. from the tone of the maghery lad i spoke to he gave the impression that maghery were the guilty party and were out to intimidate their opponents, and didn't seem to think anything was untoward with those tactics
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 03, 2009, 04:23:59 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 03, 2009, 08:33:58 AM
Stupid by jp cost the ogs the game which was there for the taking. at least the ogs have given cross 2 hard games.


Dont know JP personally but think hes usually quick with his fists on the filed, have seen him raise them twice this year unpunished although he did get his face busted open after he lifted them in Davitt park. Maybe hes got what hes been asking for all year. So close to championship to - TIT.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on August 03, 2009, 05:19:33 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 03, 2009, 04:23:59 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 03, 2009, 08:33:58 AM
Stupid by jp cost the ogs the game which was there for the taking. at least the ogs have given cross 2 hard games.


Dont know JP personally but think hes usually quick with his fists on the filed, have seen him raise them twice this year unpunished although he did get his face busted open after he lifted them in Davitt park. Maybe hes got what hes been asking for all year. So close to championship to - TIT.
........... and this is the man that many want to see playing for the County; I always said he was a liability.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on August 03, 2009, 08:45:34 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on August 03, 2009, 05:19:33 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 03, 2009, 04:23:59 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 03, 2009, 08:33:58 AM
Stupid by jp cost the ogs the game which was there for the taking. at least the ogs have given cross 2 hard games.


Dont know JP personally but think hes usually quick with his fists on the filed, have seen him raise them twice this year unpunished although he did get his face busted open after he lifted them in Davitt park. Maybe hes got what hes been asking for all year. So close to championship to - TIT.
........... and this is the man that many want to see playing for the County; I always said he was a liability.

Not good enough either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on August 03, 2009, 09:31:53 PM
Countless incidents like this have now taken place in maghery in the last few years, bout time county board takes some action, 
Just heard mullabawn and tullysarran have been banned from u21 championship for 2 years, wats  the difference in them and maghery???

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 03, 2009, 09:39:40 PM
Quote from: armaghtrue on August 03, 2009, 09:31:53 PM
Countless incidents like this have now taken place in maghery in the last few years, bout time county board takes some action, 
Just heard mullabawn and tullysarran have been banned from u21 championship for 2 years, wats  the difference in them and maghery???

Well neither would have county players throwing their weight around, that counts for a lot when it comes to these punishments. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 03, 2009, 09:44:58 PM
i think our county board needs to look at the seriousness of all the incidents which have happened this season and clamp down hard on players/clubs before anyone gets seriously hurt .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghtrue on August 03, 2009, 09:47:29 PM
Think your right pints,  prob nothing happen to maghery ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 03, 2009, 09:50:43 PM
Quote from: torres on August 03, 2009, 09:44:58 PM
i think our county board needs to look at the seriousness of all the incidents which have happened this season and clamp down hard on players/clubs before anyone gets seriously hurt .
Dont hold your breath.

Though they are likely to pick on a small club, one without county players etc and make an example of them.  
Mullabawn or tullysarran wont be able to kick up too much stink so it'll cost them nothing to throw a two year ban at them. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 03, 2009, 10:16:41 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on August 03, 2009, 05:19:33 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 03, 2009, 04:23:59 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 03, 2009, 08:33:58 AM
Stupid by jp cost the ogs the game which was there for the taking. at least the ogs have given cross 2 hard games.


Dont know JP personally but think hes usually quick with his fists on the filed, have seen him raise them twice this year unpunished although he did get his face busted open after he lifted them in Davitt park. Maybe hes got what hes been asking for all year. So close to championship to - TIT.
........... and this is the man that many want to see playing for the County; I always said he was a liability.

im sure rico didnt get punch in the face for nothing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on August 03, 2009, 10:49:49 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 03, 2009, 10:16:41 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on August 03, 2009, 05:19:33 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 03, 2009, 04:23:59 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 03, 2009, 08:33:58 AM
Stupid by jp cost the ogs the game which was there for the taking. at least the ogs have given cross 2 hard games.


Dont know JP personally but think hes usually quick with his fists on the filed, have seen him raise them twice this year unpunished although he did get his face busted open after he lifted them in Davitt park. Maybe hes got what hes been asking for all year. So close to championship to - TIT.
........... and this is the man that many want to see playing for the County; I always said he was a liability.

im sure rico didnt get punch in the face for nothing
so umgola are you saying what jp done was right,as said earlier he is a liability ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2009, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 03, 2009, 10:16:41 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on August 03, 2009, 05:19:33 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 03, 2009, 04:23:59 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 03, 2009, 08:33:58 AM
Stupid by jp cost the ogs the game which was there for the taking. at least the ogs have given cross 2 hard games.


Dont know JP personally but think hes usually quick with his fists on the filed, have seen him raise them twice this year unpunished although he did get his face busted open after he lifted them in Davitt park. Maybe hes got what hes been asking for all year. So close to championship to - TIT.
........... and this is the man that many want to see playing for the County; I always said he was a liability.

im sure rico didnt get punch in the face for nothing

FFS umgola that's pure fcuked up logic!  I haven't plsyed against JP for a good number of years but when he was with the Harps he always was trying to be the hard man then.  I am no angel but I don't swipe out at every opportunity to shoe how "hard" I am.  Maybe Rico said something but at the end of the day if JP wants to be regarded as being a serious player he needs to get beyond clipping young lads!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 08:52:13 AM
Is stumpy back in the running for the managers post at Abbey or will beefer the quack be in. ( maybe not as sean has threw the dummy away)?? ps sandy it wasn't that long ago you were lookin JP on the team when he wore the blue/white. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on August 04, 2009, 11:02:06 AM
jp and rico were hitting each other but jp was the one that was caught. but sure as usual cross are angels in the eyes of the referee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 04, 2009, 11:05:37 AM
Quote from: fan01 on August 04, 2009, 11:02:06 AM
jp and rico were hitting each other but jp was the one that was caught. but sure as usual cross are angels in the eyes of the referee.

If JP was the only one caught by the referee, what do you want the referee to do?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 04, 2009, 11:19:01 AM
Quote from: full back on August 04, 2009, 11:05:37 AM
Quote from: fan01 on August 04, 2009, 11:02:06 AM
jp and rico were hitting each other but jp was the one that was caught. but sure as usual cross are angels in the eyes of the referee.

If JP was the only one caught by the referee, what do you want the referee to do?

There may be a bit of history between them two as the last time they played JP punched Rico in the throat...fact. Who does that guy think he is?, is there a match where he doesn't lift his fists. He'll hit the wrong guy one of these days and that'll be the end of him, you only get away with that craic for so long before someone decides to dish a bit of it back. The game is hard enough to play without making enemies every game. If the fella is a decent footballer why does he see the need to act like John J Rambo everytime he's on the pitch ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 04, 2009, 11:21:03 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2009, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 03, 2009, 10:16:41 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on August 03, 2009, 05:19:33 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 03, 2009, 04:23:59 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 03, 2009, 08:33:58 AM
Stupid by jp cost the ogs the game which was there for the taking. at least the ogs have given cross 2 hard games.


Dont know JP personally but think hes usually quick with his fists on the filed, have seen him raise them twice this year unpunished although he did get his face busted open after he lifted them in Davitt park. Maybe hes got what hes been asking for all year. So close to championship to - TIT.
........... and this is the man that many want to see playing for the County; I always said he was a liability.

im sure rico didnt get punch in the face for nothing

FFS umgola that's pure fcuked up logic!  I haven't plsyed against JP for a good number of years but when he was with the Harps he always was trying to be the hard man then.  I am no angel but I don't swipe out at every opportunity to shoe how "hard" I am.  Maybe Rico said something but at the end of the day if JP wants to be regarded as being a serious player he needs to get beyond clipping young lads!

Anytime I've seen him play, club or county, he's either hitting or goading which is a pity because he's a decent player but I wouldnt have any time for a player that leaves their club to go to their local rivals. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 11:31:00 AM
Cross if thats your logic then u must not like a lot of cross players who have jumped ship from other local clubs to yous. Still doing it at underage level.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 04, 2009, 11:37:10 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 11:31:00 AM
Cross if thats your logic then u must not like a lot of cross players who have jumped ship from other local clubs to yous. Still doing it at underage level.  ;)
BC didnt mention players transfering, that was me, I'm not from Cross! and I dont like any cross players!  :P

players transfering is a whole other topic, but rarely has a player, doing well at one club, on the county squad or thereabouts got up and transfered to their club's rivals!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 11:43:32 AM
pints i think this transfer has been well documented in the past and i don't think he left for no reason. but glad to hear ur no fan of cross thats one less supporter. maybe you will be asked to transfer ;D as overseas correspondant???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 04, 2009, 11:48:22 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 11:43:32 AM
pints i think this transfer has been well documented in the past and i don't think he left for no reason. but glad to hear ur no fan of cross thats one less supporter. maybe you will be asked to transfer ;D as overseas correspondant???

I've never heard a valid reason?  I've heard he moved because he "wanted to win something" and didnt he try to claim the Harps wouldnt pay for some medical treatment but it turned out his injury was a result of a soccer game or something like that?

Do you know of a valid reason?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 04, 2009, 11:57:01 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 11:31:00 AM
Cross if thats your logic then u must not like a lot of cross players who have jumped ship from other local clubs to yous. Still doing it at underage level.  ;)
Whats your point?? Was the sending off incident not the point of discussion here.  Were you at the game?  if so you'd have seen the intention of the ogs before the game even began.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 04, 2009, 12:16:11 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 03, 2009, 09:50:43 PM
Quote from: torres on August 03, 2009, 09:44:58 PM
i think our county board needs to look at the seriousness of all the incidents which have happened this season and clamp down hard on players/clubs before anyone gets seriously hurt .
Dont hold your breath.

Though they are likely to pick on a small club, one without county players etc and make an example of them.  
Mullabawn or tullysarran wont be able to kick up too much stink so it'll cost them nothing to throw a two year ban at them. 
Maghery would be smaller than either tullysaran or mullabawn.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on August 04, 2009, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on August 04, 2009, 11:57:01 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 11:31:00 AM
Cross if thats your logic then u must not like a lot of cross players who have jumped ship from other local clubs to yous. Still doing it at underage level.  ;)
Whats your point?? Was the sending off incident not the point of discussion here.  Were you at the game?  if so you'd have seen the intention of the ogs before the game even began.

And he's back!!!

Cross' number one fan who isn't a fan. He claims to be from Louth yet attends every Cross game.

Why don't you f**k away off back under whatever rock you crawled out from underneath.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 04, 2009, 01:31:44 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2009, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 03, 2009, 10:16:41 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on August 03, 2009, 05:19:33 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 03, 2009, 04:23:59 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 03, 2009, 08:33:58 AM
Stupid by jp cost the ogs the game which was there for the taking. at least the ogs have given cross 2 hard games.


Dont know JP personally but think hes usually quick with his fists on the filed, have seen him raise them twice this year unpunished although he did get his face busted open after he lifted them in Davitt park. Maybe hes got what hes been asking for all year. So close to championship to - TIT.
........... and this is the man that many want to see playing for the County; I always said he was a liability.

im sure rico didnt get punch in the face for nothing

FFS umgola that's pure fcuked up logic!  I haven't plsyed against JP for a good number of years but when he was with the Harps he always was trying to be the hard man then.  I am no angel but I don't swipe out at every opportunity to shoe how "hard" I am.  Maybe Rico said something but at the end of the day if JP wants to be regarded as being a serious player he needs to get beyond clipping young lads!


Oh is that right BC1 - I seem to remember you knocking the f**k outta me on and off the ball from start to finish one time in Cross and I was only 17/18 at the time!! HA HA SNARED SAAN!! ;D ;D ;D (Think it was around 2000 -2001?)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2009, 01:34:36 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 04, 2009, 01:31:44 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2009, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 03, 2009, 10:16:41 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on August 03, 2009, 05:19:33 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 03, 2009, 04:23:59 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 03, 2009, 08:33:58 AM
Stupid by jp cost the ogs the game which was there for the taking. at least the ogs have given cross 2 hard games.


Dont know JP personally but think hes usually quick with his fists on the filed, have seen him raise them twice this year unpunished although he did get his face busted open after he lifted them in Davitt park. Maybe hes got what hes been asking for all year. So close to championship to - TIT.
........... and this is the man that many want to see playing for the County; I always said he was a liability.

im sure rico didnt get punch in the face for nothing

FFS umgola that's pure fcuked up logic!  I haven't plsyed against JP for a good number of years but when he was with the Harps he always was trying to be the hard man then.  I am no angel but I don't swipe out at every opportunity to shoe how "hard" I am.  Maybe Rico said something but at the end of the day if JP wants to be regarded as being a serious player he needs to get beyond clipping young lads!


Oh is that right BC1 - I seem to remember you knocking the f**k outta me on and off the ball from start to finish one time in Cross and I was only 17/18 at the time!! HA HA SNARED SAAN!! ;D ;D ;D (Think it was around 2000 -2001?)

That's different, you're a Clans man and there is a god given compulsion to bate the fcuk out of your kind :P  If I hurt you I apologise, if I didn't I should have hit you harder :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 04, 2009, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2009, 01:34:36 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 04, 2009, 01:31:44 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2009, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 03, 2009, 10:16:41 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on August 03, 2009, 05:19:33 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 03, 2009, 04:23:59 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 03, 2009, 08:33:58 AM
Stupid by jp cost the ogs the game which was there for the taking. at least the ogs have given cross 2 hard games.


Dont know JP personally but think hes usually quick with his fists on the filed, have seen him raise them twice this year unpunished although he did get his face busted open after he lifted them in Davitt park. Maybe hes got what hes been asking for all year. So close to championship to - TIT.
........... and this is the man that many want to see playing for the County; I always said he was a liability.

im sure rico didnt get punch in the face for nothing

FFS umgola that's pure fcuked up logic!  I haven't plsyed against JP for a good number of years but when he was with the Harps he always was trying to be the hard man then.  I am no angel but I don't swipe out at every opportunity to shoe how "hard" I am.  Maybe Rico said something but at the end of the day if JP wants to be regarded as being a serious player he needs to get beyond clipping young lads!


Oh is that right BC1 - I seem to remember you knocking the f**k outta me on and off the ball from start to finish one time in Cross and I was only 17/18 at the time!! HA HA SNARED SAAN!! ;D ;D ;D (Think it was around 2000 -2001?)

That's different, you're a Clans man and there is a god given compulsion to bate the fcuk out of your kind :P  If I hurt you I apologise, if I didn't I should have hit you harder :D

you probably did deserve it anyway taw head  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 04, 2009, 01:40:50 PM
You didnt hurt me son in fact you prepared me for Clans Cross encounters, and we won that game to claim the league. Always wanted a rerun though so its a dam pitty you arent around anymore! ;) ;) - Suppose theres always rico  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 04, 2009, 01:43:21 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 04, 2009, 01:39:08 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2009, 01:34:36 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 04, 2009, 01:31:44 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2009, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 03, 2009, 10:16:41 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on August 03, 2009, 05:19:33 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 03, 2009, 04:23:59 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 03, 2009, 08:33:58 AM
Stupid by jp cost the ogs the game which was there for the taking. at least the ogs have given cross 2 hard games.


Dont know JP personally but think hes usually quick with his fists on the filed, have seen him raise them twice this year unpunished although he did get his face busted open after he lifted them in Davitt park. Maybe hes got what hes been asking for all year. So close to championship to - TIT.
........... and this is the man that many want to see playing for the County; I always said he was a liability.

im sure rico didnt get punch in the face for nothing

FFS umgola that's pure fcuked up logic!  I haven't plsyed against JP for a good number of years but when he was with the Harps he always was trying to be the hard man then.  I am no angel but I don't swipe out at every opportunity to shoe how "hard" I am.  Maybe Rico said something but at the end of the day if JP wants to be regarded as being a serious player he needs to get beyond clipping young lads!


Oh is that right BC1 - I seem to remember you knocking the f**k outta me on and off the ball from start to finish one time in Cross and I was only 17/18 at the time!! HA HA SNARED SAAN!! ;D ;D ;D (Think it was around 2000 -2001?)

That's different, you're a Clans man and there is a god given compulsion to bate the fcuk out of your kind :P  If I hurt you I apologise, if I didn't I should have hit you harder :D

you probably did deserve it anyway taw head  ;D


Prob not too far from the truth lad!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2009, 01:51:26 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 04, 2009, 01:40:50 PM
You didnt hurt me son in fact you prepared me for Clans Cross encounters, and we won that game to claim the league. Always wanted a rerun though so its a dam pitty you arent around anymore! ;) ;) - Suppose theres always rico  ;D ;D

I think you may have me mixed up with someone else.  Was that the game that was played in Cross near the end of the year and there was an all out battle between the players?  I wasn't playing that day.  I only ever lost to the Clans once and that was on my debut in 1993, so I'm not snared saann :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 04, 2009, 01:58:38 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 04, 2009, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on August 04, 2009, 11:57:01 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 11:31:00 AM
Cross if thats your logic then u must not like a lot of cross players who have jumped ship from other local clubs to yous. Still doing it at underage level.  ;)
Whats your point?? Was the sending off incident not the point of discussion here.  Were you at the game?  if so you'd have seen the intention of the ogs before the game even began.

And he's back!!!

Cross' number one fan who isn't a fan. He claims to be from Louth yet attends every Cross game.

Why don't you f**k away off back under whatever rock you crawled out from underneath.
Well it is down the road & as far as i know there's no law to state I can't attend whtever game i like.  Have you ever watched matches between other club, probably not with your one tracked view.  Now you go f**k yourself you p***k
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 02:13:16 PM
you should support teams in your own county and make comments on them. dont talk crap about ogs intentions before the game the game was a good hard test in poor conditions but the jp incident was the only real prob. Also didn't kelly get booked at the same time as jp got sent off, not totally innocent then, but stupid by donnelly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 04, 2009, 02:35:10 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on August 04, 2009, 01:58:38 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 04, 2009, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on August 04, 2009, 11:57:01 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 11:31:00 AM
Cross if thats your logic then u must not like a lot of cross players who have jumped ship from other local clubs to yous. Still doing it at underage level.  ;)
Whats your point?? Was the sending off incident not the point of discussion here.  Were you at the game?  if so you'd have seen the intention of the ogs before the game even began.

And he's back!!!

Cross' number one fan who isn't a fan. He claims to be from Louth yet attends every Cross game.

Why don't you f**k away off back under whatever rock you crawled out from underneath.
Well it is down the road & as far as i know there's no law to state I can't attend whtever game i like.  Have you ever watched matches between other club, probably not with your one tracked view.  Now you go f**k yourself you p***k

The board clown is back.  ;D


Dissapears for two months every time he makes a fool of himself.

Weclome back saaaan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 04, 2009, 03:04:38 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 04, 2009, 01:51:26 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 04, 2009, 01:40:50 PM
You didnt hurt me son in fact you prepared me for Clans Cross encounters, and we won that game to claim the league. Always wanted a rerun though so its a dam pitty you arent around anymore! ;) ;) - Suppose theres always rico  ;D ;D

I think you may have me mixed up with someone else.  Was that the game that was played in Cross near the end of the year and there was an all out battle between the players?  I wasn't playing that day.  I only ever lost to the Clans once and that was on my debut in 1993, so I'm not snared saann :D


It was def you! There was no brawl between teams this day, just alot of very hard hitting!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 03:07:23 PM
have any of yous seen the letter from the county board re: selection panel for new county manager. clubs have nominate a delegate to sit on the selection panel which includes county chairman, county secretary, ( wait for it former county player) and an outside independent??? surely the clubs should be given a list of 3/4 former county players and then vote to decide the best suited. or have they selected big joe. wouldn't it be easier if they went to grimley and offer him the job he was intially offered 2 years ago surely he is the best candidate. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 04, 2009, 06:13:23 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 04, 2009, 02:35:10 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on August 04, 2009, 01:58:38 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 04, 2009, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on August 04, 2009, 11:57:01 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 11:31:00 AM
Cross if thats your logic then u must not like a lot of cross players who have jumped ship from other local clubs to yous. Still doing it at underage level.  ;)
Whats your point?? Was the sending off incident not the point of discussion here.  Were you at the game?  if so you'd have seen the intention of the ogs before the game even began.

And he's back!!!

Cross' number one fan who isn't a fan. He claims to be from Louth yet attends every Cross game.

Why don't you f**k away off back under whatever rock you crawled out from underneath.
Well it is down the road & as far as i know there's no law to state I can't attend whtever game i like.  Have you ever watched matches between other club, probably not with your one tracked view.  Now you go f**k yourself you p***k

The board clown is back.  ;D


Dissapears for two months every time he makes a fool of himself.

Weclome back saaaan.

Funny enough corn i thought that was you. :D 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on August 04, 2009, 06:24:25 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 02:13:16 PM
you should support teams in your own county and make comments on them. dont talk crap about ogs intentions before the game the game was a good hard test in poor conditions but the jp incident was the only real prob. Also didn't kelly get booked at the same time as jp got sent off, not totally innocent then, but stupid by donnelly.
I didn't say kelly was an angel, infact he's a coward if you want my view.  I take it you arrived late then.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 04, 2009, 06:28:42 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 03:07:23 PM
have any of yous seen the letter from the county board re: selection panel for new county manager. clubs have nominate a delegate to sit on the selection panel which includes county chairman, county secretary, ( wait for it former county player) and an outside independent??? surely the clubs should be given a list of 3/4 former county players and then vote to decide the best suited. or have they selected big joe. wouldn't it be easier if they went to grimley and offer him the job he was intially offered 2 years ago surely he is the best candidate. ???

Sounds a bit cumbersome. 42 club representatives on a selection panel. Surely the selection panel should only be of 4 or 5 people (I've no problem with an independent being involved), with their selection being voted on by the clubs (all 40 delegates).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 04, 2009, 06:51:44 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on August 04, 2009, 06:24:25 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 02:13:16 PM
you should support teams in your own county and make comments on them. dont talk crap about ogs intentions before the game the game was a good hard test in poor conditions but the jp incident was the only real prob. Also didn't kelly get booked at the same time as jp got sent off, not totally innocent then, but stupid by donnelly.
I didn't say kelly was an angel, infact he's a coward if you want my view.  I take it you arrived late then.

It pains me to ask you this, but what were these intentions you speak of?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 04, 2009, 07:02:53 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 04, 2009, 06:28:42 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 03:07:23 PM
have any of yous seen the letter from the county board re: selection panel for new county manager. clubs have nominate a delegate to sit on the selection panel which includes county chairman, county secretary, ( wait for it former county player) and an outside independent??? surely the clubs should be given a list of 3/4 former county players and then vote to decide the best suited. or have they selected big joe. wouldn't it be easier if they went to grimley and offer him the job he was intially offered 2 years ago surely he is the best candidate. ???

Sounds a bit cumbersome. 42 club representatives on a selection panel. Surely the selection panel should only be of 4 or 5 people (I've no problem with an independent being involved), with their selection being voted on by the clubs (all 40 delegates).

Was that not the way the selection process worked last time with Grimley getting 40/42 clubs in favour of his appointment

Yet it was given to PMD
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on August 04, 2009, 07:26:05 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on August 04, 2009, 06:13:23 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 04, 2009, 02:35:10 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on August 04, 2009, 01:58:38 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 04, 2009, 01:00:56 PM
Quote from: goh4205 on August 04, 2009, 11:57:01 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2009, 11:31:00 AM
Cross if thats your logic then u must not like a lot of cross players who have jumped ship from other local clubs to yous. Still doing it at underage level.  ;)
Whats your point?? Was the sending off incident not the point of discussion here.  Were you at the game?  if so you'd have seen the intention of the ogs before the game even began.

And he's back!!!

Cross' number one fan who isn't a fan. He claims to be from Louth yet attends every Cross game.

Why don't you f**k away off back under whatever rock you crawled out from underneath.
Well it is down the road & as far as i know there's no law to state I can't attend whtever game i like.  Have you ever watched matches between other club, probably not with your one tracked view.  Now you go f**k yourself you p***k

The board clown is back.  ;D


Dissapears for two months every time he makes a fool of himself.

Weclome back saaaan.

Funny enough corn i thought that was you. :D 

Brilliant.

Did that really warrent a laughing smiley face?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cill sleibhe on August 05, 2009, 12:03:44 AM
Quote from: Joxer on August 03, 2009, 12:43:41 PM
Quote from: davo on August 03, 2009, 11:08:22 AM
very surprised that killeavy are in big trouble. it would be a disaster for them to be relegated. i still think they will do enough to at least get into a play off.

No it wouldn't.  There trampish football doesnt belong in the top 3 divisions of football

On another note.  I didnt get to see the Meath v Limerick game on Saturday but I see the bowl Paudie had to be escorted off the field AGAIN.  Beyond a joke him refereeing at the top level!

hardly fair callin us trampish considerin some of d games use boys have been in, cast ur mind back to when our trampish football beat use of the park earlier in the year and ur angels ended with 14 men and most of ur superstars moanin after every whistle, catch a grip u dummy!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on August 05, 2009, 01:05:07 AM
Quote from: cill sleibhe on August 05, 2009, 12:03:44 AM
Quote from: Joxer on August 03, 2009, 12:43:41 PM
Quote from: davo on August 03, 2009, 11:08:22 AM
very surprised that killeavy are in big trouble. it would be a disaster for them to be relegated. i still think they will do enough to at least get into a play off.

No it wouldn't.  There trampish football doesnt belong in the top 3 divisions of football

On another note.  I didnt get to see the Meath v Limerick game on Saturday but I see the bowl Paudie had to be escorted off the field AGAIN.  Beyond a joke him refereeing at the top level!

hardly fair callin us trampish considerin some of d games use boys have been in, cast ur mind back to when our trampish football beat use of the park earlier in the year and ur angels ended with 14 men and most of ur superstars moanin after every whistle, catch a grip u dummy!

Not remember back to Friday night when one of your players attacked an opposition umpire(an older man with several thumps), thats the work of a tr**p!! And that is just one example

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

And here do you know what your comment stinks off................... Division 2 football
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on August 05, 2009, 03:24:32 PM
Quote from: holylandsniper on August 05, 2009, 01:05:07 AM
Quote from: cill sleibhe on August 05, 2009, 12:03:44 AM
Quote from: Joxer on August 03, 2009, 12:43:41 PM
Quote from: davo on August 03, 2009, 11:08:22 AM
very surprised that killeavy are in big trouble. it would be a disaster for them to be relegated. i still think they will do enough to at least get into a play off.

No it wouldn't.  There trampish football doesnt belong in the top 3 divisions of football

On another note.  I didnt get to see the Meath v Limerick game on Saturday but I see the bowl Paudie had to be escorted off the field AGAIN.  Beyond a joke him refereeing at the top level!

hardly fair callin us trampish considerin some of d games use boys have been in, cast ur mind back to when our trampish football beat use of the park earlier in the year and ur angels ended with 14 men and most of ur superstars moanin after every whistle, catch a grip u dummy!

Not remember back to Friday night when one of your players attacked an opposition umpire(an older man with several thumps), thats the work of a tr**p!! And that is just one example

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

And here do you know what your comment stinks off................... Division 2 football

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on August 05, 2009, 10:21:47 PM
In the b county league tonight - dromintee 4-18 Sarsfields 0-08. Can we play you every week?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 05, 2009, 10:23:54 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 05, 2009, 10:21:47 PM
In the b county league tonight - dromintee 4-18 Sarsfields 0-08. Can we play you every week?

nice to see dromintee eventually get something against sarsfields this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 05, 2009, 10:36:33 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on August 05, 2009, 10:23:54 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 05, 2009, 10:21:47 PM
In the b county league tonight - dromintee 4-18 Sarsfields 0-08. Can we play you every week?

nice to see dromintee eventually get something against sarsfields this year.
CORRECT
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on August 05, 2009, 11:45:05 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on August 05, 2009, 10:23:54 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 05, 2009, 10:21:47 PM
In the b county league tonight - dromintee 4-18 Sarsfields 0-08. Can we play you every week?

nice to see dromintee eventually get something against sarsfields this year.

I see Cruppens form has dipped at a less than convenient time.

Ogs will eat yis alive.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rossa on August 06, 2009, 12:35:36 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 05, 2009, 11:45:05 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on August 05, 2009, 10:23:54 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 05, 2009, 10:21:47 PM
In the b county league tonight - dromintee 4-18 Sarsfields 0-08. Can we play you every week?

nice to see dromintee eventually get something against sarsfields this year.

I see Cruppens form has dipped at a less than convenient time.

Ogs will eat yis alive.

Well if they do, does anyone think they can beat Cross? By all accounts they came close last week in the league and that was in Cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on August 06, 2009, 08:07:20 AM
My understanding of the selection process is as follows.  Each club nominate a rep and a former player, all clubs then vote on which of the nominated reps and nominated players get to sit on the selection panel, leaving a panel of chairman, secretary, 1 rep, 1 former player and 1 independent member of an independent orginisation (no idea whats meant by this bit of how they are selected).  The clubs then nominate someone for the job, the person(s) nominated are asked if they would be willing to accept the job, if they say yes they are then interviewed by the 5 man selection committee.  My understanding is that this entire procedure was set up because of complaints made from some quarters about what happened the last time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 06, 2009, 09:33:10 AM
David your understanding is wrong, no mention of a process for the clubs to select the former county player, see the letter issued to your club. Think this needs challenged. ps i see b mc alinden has decided not to go forward  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 06, 2009, 10:20:19 AM
Internediate 1/4 finals this weekend

St Peter's v Wolfe Tone Tones
Ballyhegan v Keady Ballyhegan
Culloville v Sarsfields Sarsfields
St Michael's v Silverbridge Silverbridge

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on August 06, 2009, 10:31:09 AM
This selection process is a crock of sh1t, just offer the job to Paul Grimley, if he wants it, give it to him, full stop. The County Board got a clear vote the last time and ignored it. If I was Grimley I wouldn't go near an interview process after the way he was treated the last time, I'd tell them that if they wanted me to do the job, just offer it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on August 06, 2009, 11:17:35 AM
Mc Alinden has ruled himself out

" too much going on in Armagh at the moment"

I take it thats a pop at the infighting amongst the players and within the county board
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on August 06, 2009, 11:41:41 AM
St Peter's v Wolfe Tone Tones
Ballyhegan v Keady Keady
Culloville v Sarsfields Culloville
St Michael's v Silverbridge St Michaels

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on August 06, 2009, 12:36:52 PM
Quote from: David McKeown on August 06, 2009, 08:07:20 AM
My understanding of the selection process is as follows.  Each club nominate a rep and a former player, all clubs then vote on which of the nominated reps and nominated players get to sit on the selection panel, leaving a panel of chairman, secretary, 1 rep, 1 former player and 1 independent member of an independent orginisation (no idea whats meant by this bit of how they are selected).  The clubs then nominate someone for the job, the person(s) nominated are asked if they would be willing to accept the job, if they say yes they are then interviewed by the 5 man selection committee.  My understanding is that this entire procedure was set up because of complaints made from some quarters about what happened the last time

Sure David you weren't even the smartest fella in your primary school.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on August 06, 2009, 01:38:46 PM
Quote from: naka on August 06, 2009, 11:17:35 AM
Mc Alinden has ruled himself out

" too much going on in Armagh at the moment"

I take it thats a pop at the infighting amongst the players and within the county board

what's the infighting amongst the players about?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 06, 2009, 02:30:59 PM
what a load of cr-p. there was no in fighting among players just bad management team and worse county board running the show.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on August 06, 2009, 02:52:42 PM
Well there is of course the fact that a player leaked tactics and team before the monaghan match, i suppose some people might consider that infighting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 06, 2009, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 06, 2009, 02:52:42 PM
Well there is of course the fact that a player leaked tactics and team before the monaghan match, i suppose some people might consider that infighting.

What tactics are you on about, it was hardly a secret the way he had armagh playing for the last two years
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 07, 2009, 08:47:06 AM
yes umgola s--t with no management tactics or confidence. ( i can still see the manager with head in hands looking up into the hogan stand when wexford scored instead of doing some thing )  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on August 07, 2009, 09:53:31 AM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 06, 2009, 02:52:42 PM
Well there is of course the fact that a player leaked tactics and team before the monaghan match, i suppose some people might consider that infighting.

are you sure it was a player that leaked the tactics?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 07, 2009, 10:07:09 AM
Was there not a bit of a hissy fit when Paddy McKeever & co were shown the door?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 10:27:13 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 06, 2009, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 06, 2009, 02:52:42 PM
Well there is of course the fact that a player leaked tactics and team before the monaghan match, i suppose some people might consider that infighting.

What tactics are you on about, it was hardly a secret the way he had armagh playing for the last two years

You can't honestly suggest that the leaking of tactics and marking assignments didn't have a big impact. Anyone who thinks it was not a big deal is living in loopyville.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on August 07, 2009, 10:59:15 AM
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 10:27:13 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 06, 2009, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 06, 2009, 02:52:42 PM
Well there is of course the fact that a player leaked tactics and team before the monaghan match, i suppose some people might consider that infighting.

What tactics are you on about, it was hardly a secret the way he had armagh playing for the last two years

You can't honestly suggest that the leaking of tactics and marking assignments didn't have a big impact. Anyone who thinks it was not a big deal is living in loopyville.
I'll have to admit to living in loopyville so........seriously corn, marking assignments would've been fairly obvious. The one that had the most effect on the outcome of the game was AOR on Rory Woods but that was jumping out after the team was selected. McEnaney pulled a master stroke by keeping Aidan close to goal and exposing a lack of mobility and counter-acting Aidan's strengths particularly his passing. But I don't think he would've needed a mole to work out that Aidan was going to take Woods.

As others have said, our "tactics" have been the same for about three years now, which is a depressing truth.......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on August 07, 2009, 11:03:13 AM

Yeah, that's about right mackers. the obvious question from the game is why we left aidan at corner back ffs. how difficult would it have been to make a switch?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on August 07, 2009, 12:01:26 PM
Quote from: The GAA on August 07, 2009, 11:03:13 AM

Yeah, that's about right mackers. the obvious question from the game is why we left aidan at corner back ffs. how difficult would it have been to make a switch?

True. You could see a switch was needed after the first 5 minutes.

Anyway still doesn't take away from the fact of the leak.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on August 07, 2009, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 07, 2009, 12:01:26 PM
Quote from: The GAA on August 07, 2009, 11:03:13 AM

Yeah, that's about right mackers. the obvious question from the game is why we left aidan at corner back ffs. how difficult would it have been to make a switch?

True. You could see a switch was needed after the first 5 minutes.

Anyway still doesn't take away from the fact of the leak.
But it does take away from McDonnell's statement that we were beat because of this leak. Really don't think so...........
Yes, it's very annoying that a leak would exist but there was nothing mysterious about our marking strategies or tactics and that's the reason that McDonnell failed, we hadn't moved on and our tactics had become stale and very, very predictable........
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on August 07, 2009, 01:29:53 PM
Quote from: mackers on August 07, 2009, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 07, 2009, 12:01:26 PM
Quote from: The GAA on August 07, 2009, 11:03:13 AM

Yeah, that's about right mackers. the obvious question from the game is why we left aidan at corner back ffs. how difficult would it have been to make a switch?

True. You could see a switch was needed after the first 5 minutes.

Anyway still doesn't take away from the fact of the leak.
But it does take away from McDonnell's statement that we were beat because of this leak. Really don't think so...........
Yes, it's very annoying that a leak would exist but there was nothing mysterious about our marking strategies or tactics and that's the reason that McDonnell failed, we hadn't moved on and our tactics had become stale and very, very predictable........

I disagree.

Again this has been talked about in the other thread but we drew? It went to extra-time and we were beat by the smallest of margins? Not to give Peter McDonnell any credit because to be honest I was not one of his biggest fans as a manager but how do you know what kind of difference the leak might have made? Considering how close the game was, if the leak made any difference at all surely theres a possibility it may have had a bearing on the result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 07, 2009, 03:14:04 PM
intermediate predictions

tones to win by 3 extra experience in tight championship games over recent years to pull us through

ballyhegan by 2 think they will have the bit between their teeth after their surprise win against madden in the last round.  keady getting talked up by few posters, think ballyhegan be too strong

sarsfields cullaville tie of the round and in many peoples eyes the final.  sarsfields finishing season strongly, choked in the championship last year, cullaville after a horrific round have picked up twop wins in a row and will want to return to the final for the 3rd year in a row.  sarsfields by 1

silverbridge v newtown hard game to call.two sides on poor runs that have only managed 3 league wins between them this season.  newtown will have the benefit of having played 2 championship games this year and kevin o rourke could be the difference here.  st.michaels by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 03:20:27 PM
Quote from: mackers on August 07, 2009, 10:59:15 AM
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 10:27:13 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 06, 2009, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 06, 2009, 02:52:42 PM
Well there is of course the fact that a player leaked tactics and team before the monaghan match, i suppose some people might consider that infighting.

What tactics are you on about, it was hardly a secret the way he had armagh playing for the last two years

You can't honestly suggest that the leaking of tactics and marking assignments didn't have a big impact. Anyone who thinks it was not a big deal is living in loopyville.
I'll have to admit to living in loopyville so........seriously corn, marking assignments would've been fairly obvious. The one that had the most effect on the outcome of the game was AOR on Rory Woods but that was jumping out after the team was selected. McEnaney pulled a master stroke by keeping Aidan close to goal and exposing a lack of mobility and counter-acting Aidan's strengths particularly his passing. But I don't think he would've needed a mole to work out that Aidan was going to take Woods.

As others have said, our "tactics" have been the same for about three years now, which is a depressing truth.......


But that's specious reasoning though, isn't it?

I don't think it was a given that Aidan would pick up Woods. In fact, it was not a given that Aidan would be man-marking anyone. To know he was taking Woods, he deployed him further forward than usual. If he didn;t know until the start of the match the witch would not have been made before the throw-in and crucial scores were lost.

Of course not switching him out of the corner played a part. But knowing who was marking who, and that goes for all the defenders, gives you a massive advantage. YYou can shape your gameplan knowing that there will be no surprises.

I think it is naive to see it as just tactics that could have been worked out, implications run deeper than that and tactics and gameplans are just not that black and white.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 07, 2009, 08:16:21 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 03:20:27 PM
Quote from: mackers on August 07, 2009, 10:59:15 AM
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 10:27:13 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 06, 2009, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 06, 2009, 02:52:42 PM
Well there is of course the fact that a player leaked tactics and team before the monaghan match, i suppose some people might consider that infighting.

What tactics are you on about, it was hardly a secret the way he had armagh playing for the last two years

You can't honestly suggest that the leaking of tactics and marking assignments didn't have a big impact. Anyone who thinks it was not a big deal is living in loopyville.
I'll have to admit to living in loopyville so........seriously corn, marking assignments would've been fairly obvious. The one that had the most effect on the outcome of the game was AOR on Rory Woods but that was jumping out after the team was selected. McEnaney pulled a master stroke by keeping Aidan close to goal and exposing a lack of mobility and counter-acting Aidan's strengths particularly his passing. But I don't think he would've needed a mole to work out that Aidan was going to take Woods.

As others have said, our "tactics" have been the same for about three years now, which is a depressing truth.......


But that's specious reasoning though, isn't it?

I don't think it was a given that Aidan would pick up Woods. In fact, it was not a given that Aidan would be man-marking anyone. To know he was taking Woods, he deployed him further forward than usual. If he didn;t know until the start of the match the witch would not have been made before the throw-in and crucial scores were lost.

Of course not switching him out of the corner played a part. But knowing who was marking who, and that goes for all the defenders, gives you a massive advantage. YYou can shape your gameplan knowing that there will be no surprises.

I think it is naive to see it as just tactics that could have been worked out, implications run deeper than that and tactics and gameplans are just not that black and white.

at the end of the day it was a derby match and armagh lost by a point, if it had of been the other way there would be no talk of leaks and tactics

two dromintee posters persistant on blaming the leaks for the defeat!!!  Maybe there is an underlying reason for this!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 08:29:35 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 07, 2009, 08:16:21 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 03:20:27 PM
Quote from: mackers on August 07, 2009, 10:59:15 AM
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 10:27:13 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 06, 2009, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 06, 2009, 02:52:42 PM
Well there is of course the fact that a player leaked tactics and team before the monaghan match, i suppose some people might consider that infighting.

What tactics are you on about, it was hardly a secret the way he had armagh playing for the last two years

You can't honestly suggest that the leaking of tactics and marking assignments didn't have a big impact. Anyone who thinks it was not a big deal is living in loopyville.
I'll have to admit to living in loopyville so........seriously corn, marking assignments would've been fairly obvious. The one that had the most effect on the outcome of the game was AOR on Rory Woods but that was jumping out after the team was selected. McEnaney pulled a master stroke by keeping Aidan close to goal and exposing a lack of mobility and counter-acting Aidan's strengths particularly his passing. But I don't think he would've needed a mole to work out that Aidan was going to take Woods.

As others have said, our "tactics" have been the same for about three years now, which is a depressing truth.......


But that's specious reasoning though, isn't it?

I don't think it was a given that Aidan would pick up Woods. In fact, it was not a given that Aidan would be man-marking anyone. To know he was taking Woods, he deployed him further forward than usual. If he didn;t know until the start of the match the witch would not have been made before the throw-in and crucial scores were lost.

Of course not switching him out of the corner played a part. But knowing who was marking who, and that goes for all the defenders, gives you a massive advantage. YYou can shape your gameplan knowing that there will be no surprises.

I think it is naive to see it as just tactics that could have been worked out, implications run deeper than that and tactics and gameplans are just not that black and white.

at the end of the day it was a derby match and armagh lost by a point, if it had of been the other way there would be no talk of leaks and tactics

two dromintee posters persistant on blaming the leaks for the defeat!!!  Maybe there is an underlying reason for this!!!!!!!!




What a bullshit post, and shows you know you have this wrong. If your retort is "if we had of won it would not have mattered" then your argument does not hold much water.

Excellent to bring Dromintee into it as well. How dare we speak ill of someone doing this. Most condemned it but you saw fit to single out Dromintee posters.

Again if you think it made no difference you are off the pace completely.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 07, 2009, 08:36:03 PM
It doesnt matter whether or not it made a difference, if we lost by 10 points or won by 20 a player leaking information (if it's true) is serious. 

Your post is just rubbish umgola, and I havent a clue what dromintee has to do with it.

Sure we'll just all put our heads in the sand and pretend we've no issues, that will help us next year and the overall rebuilding process.  Armagh at the minute are a joke, who in their right mind would manage us? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 08:58:00 PM
Crossmaglen bate us oput the door, think there was 30 or 35 in it at the end.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 07, 2009, 09:15:52 PM
st.peters 2-6 wolfe tones 1-12

peters the better team deserved to go through we dug very deep 6 down with 15 left left a goal and kicked on from there.was a great last 20 mins to the game very exciting
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 689908 on August 07, 2009, 09:16:53 PM
What's your club?
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 08:58:00 PM
Crossmaglen bate us oput the door, think there was 30 or 35 in it at the end.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: 689908 on August 07, 2009, 09:16:53 PM
What's your club?
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 08:58:00 PM
Crossmaglen bate us oput the door, think there was 30 or 35 in it at the end.

Dromintee.

Final score: Cross 6-20 Drominte 0-05

Granemore will be licking their lips, and rightly so. If I was a betting man and not from Dromintee I would throw a quid or two on Granemore.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on August 07, 2009, 10:01:49 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: 689908 on August 07, 2009, 09:16:53 PM
What's your club?
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 08:58:00 PM
Crossmaglen bate us oput the door, think there was 30 or 35 in it at the end.

Dromintee.

Final score: Cross 6-20 Drominte 0-05


Unbelievable scoreline. Can this scoreline to be taken at face value or had Dromintee a ladies team out?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 10:08:20 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 07, 2009, 10:01:49 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: 689908 on August 07, 2009, 09:16:53 PM
What's your club?
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 08:58:00 PM
Crossmaglen bate us oput the door, think there was 30 or 35 in it at the end.

Dromintee.

Final score: Cross 6-20 Drominte 0-05


Unbelievable scoreline. Can this scoreline to be taken at face value or had Dromintee a ladies team out?


We had a few young lads out alright, but i'm sure Cross did too.

Big gap at the moment.

Side will be taking Granemore incredibly serious and an upset is possible.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on August 07, 2009, 10:23:43 PM
I think I'll be paying the bookies a wee visit this week to see if that 1/4 on Cross is still available.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 07, 2009, 10:25:36 PM
Clans 0-12 Killeavy 1-9
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 07, 2009, 10:32:55 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: 689908 on August 07, 2009, 09:16:53 PM
What's your club?
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 08:58:00 PM
Crossmaglen bate us oput the door, think there was 30 or 35 in it at the end.

Dromintee.

Final score: Cross 6-20 Drominte 0-05

Granemore will be licking their lips, and rightly so. If I was a betting man and not from Dromintee I would throw a quid or two on Granemore.

f**king hell! If there was a team on the field at all cross shouldnt have scored 6-20!  How many regulars were you missing corn?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 07, 2009, 10:38:19 PM
St Pats 1-09

Pearse Ogs 1-14   ;D ;D

Some disgusting "tackles" by St Pats tonight.  I think the ref must have left his book at home
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 10:39:36 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 07, 2009, 10:32:55 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: 689908 on August 07, 2009, 09:16:53 PM
What's your club?
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 08:58:00 PM
Crossmaglen bate us oput the door, think there was 30 or 35 in it at the end.

Dromintee.

Final score: Cross 6-20 Drominte 0-05

Granemore will be licking their lips, and rightly so. If I was a betting man and not from Dromintee I would throw a quid or two on Granemore.

f**king hell! If there was a team on the field at all cross shouldnt have scored 6-20!  How many regulars were you missing corn?

Only heard a bit of the team, probably missing four or five anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on August 07, 2009, 11:14:01 PM
corn thats some trimming yous took up there,was your county players all playing?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on August 07, 2009, 11:19:09 PM
cullyhanna were very poor tonight against the ogs.there full back was taking to the cleaners and he stayed on the field for the full game.The ref was very poor also for both teams letting a lot go i thought a fight was going to break out.Think st pats are safe now going by the other results
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on August 07, 2009, 11:22:07 PM

Poor effort all round from dromintee tonight. hope to jaysus it'll be a bit better next week or it'll be an early summer finish
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 07, 2009, 11:30:38 PM
I had the pleasure of watching my first live game since the 2007 AI Final tonite and I went in hoping for an enjoyable game.  I watched the most one sided game I have ever seen and I must say I would be fearful for Dromintee if this is the quality of players they have coming through.  Dromintee were missing a good number of starters, the O'Rourke's, Eddie Martin, the O'Neill's Benny McArdle and Philly McEvoy.  It was a fairly depleted side.  To put the Cross performance in perspective though we were missing Paul Hearty, John Mac, Francie, Titch McKenna, Tony, Aaron and Stephn Kernan, Skinny McKeown and Jamie Clarke.  This was as complete a performance as I have seen and some of the younger players have convinced me again that they will dominate for a number of years to come.  Frannie Hanratty was excellent ,scoring 1-3 I think from midfield, Fish Aherne worked Dooher like all over the field, Johhny Hanratty showed that at last they have a full forward who can win his own ball and score :P, Kyle Carragher with a bit of composure will be as goodd a corner forward as there is in Armagh and this does not account for the likes of Caolan Short or Danny O'Callaghan.  They may not be household names but they are real Cross players, tough brave and know what to do simply.

I may be around to see the game next week against Tir nanOg so it will be interesting to see what they are like in championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 08, 2009, 10:17:57 AM
Does the result at Davitt park put Killeavy down then??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 08, 2009, 10:28:00 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 08, 2009, 10:17:57 AM
Does the result at Davitt park put Killeavy down then??

No saan. If we loose our last two matches and Killeavy win their last game it could be a play off, obviously Mullaghbawn come into it too. They are two points behins clans and on the same points as Killeavy with two games to go...so interesting few weeks ahead
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 08, 2009, 10:32:18 AM
Mullaghbawn have dromintee and culloville left so winable games for them, Clans have st.pats at home and cruppen away, winable games for them who does killeavy play in their last game??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 08, 2009, 10:53:39 AM
It has no bearing on Cruppen's season but could be key for Culloville and Killeavy. Cruppen won last night by a point but somewhere a long the line the referee missed a score and awarded a draw 1 - 9 to 2 - 6. scoreline was actually 1-10 to 2-6. Cruppen, the crowd, the scoreboard, people from other clubs and prob even Mullaghbawn (though they'll never admit it now - and why would they!), and the umpires knew the score. One clown in the middle couldnt count and that could be key in who stays up or goes down. Like I said, Cruppen already safe and it didnt matter but the point is if this had been two points we needed there would have been big implications. The referee was clearly not up to it and is def not div 1 standard. The county board need to look at ensuring that the referees asigned to games are at least able to count and are up the the challenge of refing at the level they are asigned to.

In any case we were shocking in the second half. That must be the biggest win for cross this year - didnt see it coming against Dromintee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 08, 2009, 11:08:46 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 08, 2009, 10:32:18 AM
Mullaghbawn have dromintee and culloville left so winable games for them, Clans have st.pats at home and cruppen away, winable games for them who does killeavy play in their last game??

Sarsfields saan i think Sarsfields are at home but not 100%
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 08, 2009, 11:13:03 AM
Crossmaglen     17   17   0     0   34 (Champions)
Pearse Og        17     9   2     6   20
Carrickcruppen  17     7   3     7   17
Dromintee        17     8   0     9   16
St Patrick's       16     7   1     8   15
Sarsfields          16     7   1     8   15
Clan na Gael      16     6   2     8   14
Killeavy             17     5   2    10  12
Mullaghbawn     16     5   2    9    12
Culloville            15     4   1   10    9

But if ref had been correct last night Mullaghbawn would be on 11 and Cruppen on 18.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on August 08, 2009, 11:21:51 AM
Does anyone know the next round of fixtures? Whether or not teams advance in the championship could have a big impact on who gets relegated now. If teams that are already safe get knocked out this weekend then their seasons are practically over.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 08, 2009, 11:28:44 AM
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 10:08:20 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 07, 2009, 10:01:49 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 09:21:36 PM
Quote from: 689908 on August 07, 2009, 09:16:53 PM
What's your club?
Quote from: corn02 on August 07, 2009, 08:58:00 PM
Crossmaglen bate us oput the door, think there was 30 or 35 in it at the end.

Dromintee.

Final score: Cross 6-20 Drominte 0-05


Unbelievable scoreline. Can this scoreline to be taken at face value or had Dromintee a ladies team out?


We had a few young lads out alright, but i'm sure Cross did too.

Big gap at the moment.

Side will be taking Granemore incredibly serious and an upset is possible.

While Cross were short 5 or 6, this was almost a Dromintee B team. Some of the Dromintee lads are not even on their senior panel. The only recognizable face was Barry Shannon, so i am sure that any Granemore men in attendance at the game will not be fooled by this charade. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 08, 2009, 12:47:27 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 08, 2009, 11:08:46 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 08, 2009, 10:32:18 AM
Mullaghbawn have dromintee and culloville left so winable games for them, Clans have st.pats at home and cruppen away, winable games for them who does killeavy play in their last game??

Sarsfields saan i think Sarsfields are at home but not 100%
Highmoss away. In any case I have a suspicion that dromintee will again field a weakened side when they play Mullabawn to make life difficult for their friends in killeavy.
I think Clans need 1pt from their last two games to stay up. If Cullaville win their last 3 games they stay up. Mullabawn need a win and a draw from their last two games to stay up. Killeavy need to win their remaining game to have any chance and may need to rely on other results to go their way, namely Clans to lose both their remaining matches and for Mullabawn to lose at least once to force a play off. Any two of the mentioned teams can still go down  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on August 08, 2009, 01:56:59 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on August 08, 2009, 10:53:39 AM
It has no bearing on Cruppen's season but could be key for Culloville and Killeavy. Cruppen won last night by a point but somewhere a long the line the referee missed a score and awarded a draw 1 - 9 to 2 - 6. scoreline was actually 1-10 to 2-6. Cruppen, the crowd, the scoreboard, people from other clubs and prob even Mullaghbawn (though they'll never admit it now - and why would they!), and the umpires knew the score. One clown in the middle couldnt count and that could be key in who stays up or goes down. Like I said, Cruppen already safe and it didnt matter but the point is if this had been two points we needed there would have been big implications. The referee was clearly not up to it and is def not div 1 standard. The county board need to look at ensuring that the referees asigned to games are at least able to count and are up the the challenge of refing at the level they are asigned to.

In any case we were shocking in the second half. That must be the biggest win for cross this year - didnt see it coming against Dromintee.

Happened Na Clairsigh lastyear against Culloville when EVERYONE knew we had won by a point, it was even broadcast on the local radio station that we'd won!! Ref gave it as a draw and we got relegated. Don't get me wrong that alone didn't put us down but I do think it had a bearing on matters...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on August 08, 2009, 07:10:33 PM

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Happened Na Clairsigh lastyear against Culloville when EVERYONE knew we had won by a point, it was even broadcast on the local radio station that we'd won!! Ref gave it as a draw and we got relegated. Don't get me wrong that alone didn't put us down but I do think it had a bearing on matters...
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But weren't we relegated by a point.  Crucial.  Even an aquired recording of the game at which every score was accounted for did nothing to change the ref's/county board's mind.  But we had some very poor performances last year in games tha were very winable.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 08, 2009, 07:23:40 PM
Keady beat Ballyhegan by 2 in the Intermediate Championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on August 08, 2009, 07:56:58 PM
Cullaville 1-7  Sarsfields 0-2 at Half time

EDIT:  5 Left.  Sarsfields 2-7  Cullaville 1-9
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 08, 2009, 09:02:02 PM
How did the culloville / sarsfield game end ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 08, 2009, 09:09:33 PM
culloville 1-11 sars 2-7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 08, 2009, 10:04:50 PM
Are there any Championship games on tomorrow?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 08, 2009, 10:46:45 PM
Silverbridge play St Michaels in Cullyhanna at 2.00pm. IFC
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on August 09, 2009, 12:49:54 AM
Was that Cullaville Sarsfields game in the league or IFC?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 09, 2009, 01:20:05 AM
Championship. Big result for Culloville. Should go on and the championship now. Would be heartbreaking for them to lose another final. Certain to be one, and possibly 2, divison 1 teams in the IFC next year again. Its a farce.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on August 09, 2009, 10:30:07 AM
was at the two championship games yesterday, a different quality in the two matches, Cullaville will have the favourites tag for the championship. Number 14 for sarsfields had a great game won every ball put near him and took a few scores and cullaville number 17 done well coming on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 09, 2009, 12:44:17 PM
Sarsfields contributed to their own downfall by not showing in the first half, 2 pts i think they managed while cullaville blitzed them scoring something like 1-7. good fightback in second half though too little too late, they missed richie stevenson too much and playing two big men in full forward didn't really work. i'd say tones will fancy their chances against culloville but they would be the favourites now for the title.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 09, 2009, 01:07:35 PM
Quote from: slievegullion on August 09, 2009, 12:49:54 AM
Was that Cullaville Sarsfields game in the league or IFC?

You are really on the ball.!! ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 09, 2009, 03:53:33 PM
granemore beat a very poor harps side 1-18 - 0-9 .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on August 09, 2009, 04:21:51 PM

were harps full out? things are looking ominous for dromintee next week
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 09, 2009, 04:22:47 PM
Newtown beat the 'Bridge by a point in the IFC, we were winning by 8 or so at half time, Newtown scored two early goals in the second half though.  Jarlath made a comeback for the last 15 or 20 minutes.  All the best to Newtown in the next round. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 09, 2009, 04:24:48 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on August 09, 2009, 04:21:51 PM

were harps full out? things are looking ominous for dromintee next week

I think the Harps had 4 or 5 missing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 09, 2009, 04:31:37 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on August 09, 2009, 04:21:51 PM

were harps full out? things are looking ominous for dromintee next week

i dont think dromintee are nearly as bad as some of their results , they have a lot of experienced players who have been involved in the county set up and  are still favourites to beat granemore .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 09, 2009, 08:55:22 PM
Ogs Bs beat St pats tonight in the county final.

Ogs under 16s and Killeavey ended in a draw
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 09, 2009, 09:06:52 PM
Pearse Ógs 0-12 St Pat's 2-3

Congratulations to the Ógs. Game hinged on a harsh sending off on Kevin Toner 10 minutes into the second half. The challenge was a bit reckless and late but wasn't dangerous and I thought it was a very harsh decision to send Kevin off. Pearse Ógs took control of the game from that point and derserved their victory. We went 1-3 to 0-2 ahead with 5 minutes to go in the first half after a superb chipped goal from Kyle McEvoy but only scored once again in the match which was never likely to be good enough. Pearse Ógs utilised the extra man well to ensure we didn't get for a third goal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 09, 2009, 09:10:02 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 09, 2009, 09:06:52 PM
Pearse Ógs 0-12 St Pat's 2-3

Congratulations to the Ógs. Game hinged on a harsh sending off on Kevin Toner 10 minutes into the second half. The challenge was a bit reckless and late but wasn't dangerous and I thought it was a very harsh decision to send Kevin off. Pearse Ógs took control of the game from that point and derserved their victory. We went 1-3 to 0-2 ahead with 5 minutes to go in the first half after a superb chipped goal from Kyle McEvoy but only scored once again in the match which was never likely to be good enough. Pearse Ógs utilised the extra man well to ensure we didn't get for a third goal.

He deserved the line without a doubt after he done two of our lads in quick succession after the ball had moved on. 

It was an entertaining game all the same
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 09, 2009, 09:18:30 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 09, 2009, 09:10:02 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 09, 2009, 09:06:52 PM
Pearse Ógs 0-12 St Pat's 2-3

Congratulations to the Ógs. Game hinged on a harsh sending off on Kevin Toner 10 minutes into the second half. The challenge was a bit reckless and late but wasn't dangerous and I thought it was a very harsh decision to send Kevin off. Pearse Ógs took control of the game from that point and derserved their victory. We went 1-3 to 0-2 ahead with 5 minutes to go in the first half after a superb chipped goal from Kyle McEvoy but only scored once again in the match which was never likely to be good enough. Pearse Ógs utilised the extra man well to ensure we didn't get for a third goal.


He deserved the line without a doubt after he done two of our lads in quick succession after the ball had moved on. 

It was an entertaining game all the same

He jumped to block the ball and his momentum took him shoulder first into the fella who had kicked ball. Nobody was "done", face clutching notwithstanding. It was a yellow card offence at worst.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 09, 2009, 09:20:52 PM
Aye he shouldered him in the face in a late tackle, and what about the other fella?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 09, 2009, 10:25:39 PM
Well at least now St Pat's have moved on from spitting in peoples faces, Now they are just shouldering in the face. Just that little step up the ladder.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 09, 2009, 10:55:10 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 09, 2009, 10:25:39 PM
Well at least now St Pat's have moved on from spitting in peoples faces, Now they are just shouldering in the face. Just that little step up the ladder.

Maybe some day Clan na Gael will move on from crying ont he internet about things that probably never happened.

Maybe.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on August 10, 2009, 01:11:01 AM
glad to see the bridge beat today in cullyhanna. Burns making a come back is a big step backwards for the bridge what is he thinking off coming back he is finshed and looks out off place.Well done to newtown hope yous go far but would need to step it up another gear
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 10, 2009, 08:13:28 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on August 09, 2009, 10:30:07 AM
was at the two championship games yesterday, a different quality in the two matches, Cullaville will have the favourites tag for the championship. Number 14 for sarsfields had a great game won every ball put near him and took a few scores and cullaville number 17 done well coming on.

Lad was on the county panel for the McKenna cup - McGaughey - he was terrible in the 1st half...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 10, 2009, 08:23:28 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on August 10, 2009, 08:13:28 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on August 09, 2009, 10:30:07 AM
was at the two championship games yesterday, a different quality in the two matches, Cullaville will have the favourites tag for the championship. Number 14 for sarsfields had a great game won every ball put near him and took a few scores and cullaville number 17 done well coming on.

Lad was on the county panel for the McKenna cup - McGaughey - he was terrible in the 1st half...

It wasnt just him that had a bad first half
If Sarsfields had played any in the first half they would have won
Two teams with similar tactics, get the ball & hit it as high as possible into the forward line
Overall the best team on the day probably won, considering their first half performance
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kentucky Blue on August 10, 2009, 12:14:34 PM
Did Lavery get suspended for maghery or was he playing yesterday??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 10, 2009, 01:59:31 PM
Quote from: Kentucky Blue on August 10, 2009, 12:14:34 PM
Did Lavery get suspended for maghery or was he playing yesterday??
Suspended from what I hear
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 10, 2009, 02:07:34 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 09, 2009, 10:55:10 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 09, 2009, 10:25:39 PM
Well at least now St Pat's have moved on from spitting in peoples faces, Now they are just shouldering in the face. Just that little step up the ladder.

Maybe some day Clan na Gael will move on from crying ont he internet about things that probably never happened.

Maybe.
maybe some day you will stop arguing a black crow's white and admit Cullyhanna are a shower of neanderthals
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 10, 2009, 02:31:12 PM
cross dont hold your breathe for the championship game, will be similar score against tir na og who have been poor in recent c/ship games. pity you didnt see ogs game which was very competitive when ogs should have won with both teams fielding strongly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on August 10, 2009, 02:57:43 PM
come on TAC, harsh sending off! 
he shouldered ciaran trainor in the face and then as christy kane was running past he buried him. lad should get a heavy suspension.
this wasnt the only incident. later on another ogs player got a late shoulder in the face, lucky he didn't break his jaw. marty mcquilan came simply to hit people as well. lucky you ended the match with 14 never mind 15.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 10, 2009, 03:29:35 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 10, 2009, 02:31:12 PM
cross dont hold your breathe for the championship game, will be similar score against tir na og who have been poor in recent c/ship games. pity you didnt see ogs game which was very competitive when ogs should have won with both teams fielding strongly.

What are you on about.??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 10, 2009, 03:33:48 PM
ur right pearseog, went to the final and have to say that about 4/5 st. pats players were more interested in the man than the ball. one thing i thought strange, one of the cullyhanna managers mc conville i think who plays for st. pats seniors running up and down the sideline with a man utd jersey on. changed times!!! tac get it sorted.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 10, 2009, 03:38:12 PM
was refering to brokencrossbar page 871  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on August 10, 2009, 04:36:14 PM
QuoteWhat are you on about.??

You sound a very "cross" person.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 10, 2009, 04:39:44 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 10, 2009, 03:38:12 PM
was refering to brokencrossbar page 871  ::)

To be fair to Crossfire, it wasn't very clear.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 10, 2009, 05:14:02 PM
Quote from: pearseog on August 10, 2009, 02:57:43 PM
come on TAC, harsh sending off! 
he shouldered ciaran trainor in the face and then as christy kane was running past he buried him. lad should get a heavy suspension.
this wasnt the only incident. later on another ogs player got a late shoulder in the face, lucky he didn't break his jaw. marty mcquilan came simply to hit people as well. lucky you ended the match with 14 never mind 15.

You must be a clans man Pearse after all it is only them that posts on the net about incidents :D what a load of c**k :D :D :D

Oh and ask your number 14 (Mc Evoy) whether the spitting happened or not because it was him that done it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 10, 2009, 05:16:27 PM
And the stick I got when I was complaining about cullyhanna......  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 10, 2009, 07:14:42 PM
Quote from: pearseog on August 10, 2009, 02:57:43 PM
come on TAC, harsh sending off! 
he shouldered ciaran trainor in the face and then as christy kane was running past he buried him. lad should get a heavy suspension.
this wasnt the only incident. later on another ogs player got a late shoulder in the face, lucky he didn't break his jaw. marty mcquilan came simply to hit people as well. lucky you ended the match with 14 never mind 15.

I was right in front of the incident and seen it clearly. There was little enough contact. I was genuinely surprised he was sent off. You see them tackles all the time, particular in B football which is always hard hitting. Reminded of the challenge Marty O'Rourke got a second yellow for against Down last year. McQuillan made one challenge in the whole match I think. At 46 he's hardly going to be much of an enforcer. The tackle when a Pearse Ógs fella came flying in near our goal hich caused a pushing and shoving match was at least as bad as the sending off incident.

These things do happen though, I accept you don't always agree with the referee and I'm not going to start making wild allegations about biased referees. Pearse Ógs won the match because they played the better football, no doubt about that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 10, 2009, 07:36:47 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 10, 2009, 07:14:42 PM
Quote from: pearseog on August 10, 2009, 02:57:43 PM
come on TAC, harsh sending off! 
he shouldered ciaran trainor in the face and then as christy kane was running past he buried him. lad should get a heavy suspension.
this wasnt the only incident. later on another ogs player got a late shoulder in the face, lucky he didn't break his jaw. marty mcquilan came simply to hit people as well. lucky you ended the match with 14 never mind 15.

I was right in front of the incident and seen it clearly. There was little enough contact. I was genuinely surprised he was sent off. You see them tackles all the time, particular in B football which is always hard hitting. Reminded of the challenge Marty O'Rourke got a second yellow for against Down last year. McQuillan made one challenge in the whole match I think. At 46 he's hardly going to be much of an enforcer. The tackle when a Pearse Ógs fella came flying in near our goal hich caused a pushing and shoving match was at least as bad as the sending off incident.

These things do happen though, I accept you don't always agree with the referee and I'm not going to start making wild allegations about biased referees. Pearse Ógs won the match because they played the better football, no doubt about that.

I was right in front of the incident as well.  He deserved to go, without a doubt
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 10, 2009, 08:02:41 PM
If the fixtures for this week are put up on Orchard County could someone copy them here (I'm not a member of OC)?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on August 10, 2009, 08:11:20 PM
ARMAGH CLUB GAMES FOR W/E TUESDAY 18 AUGUST 2009

Monday 10 August
Minor Football Championship
All Games POSTPONED

Tuesday 11 August
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
An Port Mor v Tullysaran (Mickey Leonard)
Lissummon v St Peter's (Paul Boylan)

Wednesday 12 August
All-County 'B' League – Group A (7.30)
Mullaghbawn v Granemore (Vincent O'Neill)
Sarsfields v Clan na Gael (Barney Henry)
Madden v Dromintee (Patrick Duffy)
All-County 'B' League – Group B (7.30)
Silverbridge v Pearse Og (Damian McConville)
Maghery v Clann Eireann (Mickey Leonard)

Thursday 13 August
All-County U-16 League – Group A (7.30)
St Peter's v Dromintee (Damian McConville)
Pearse Og v Keady (Off)
Crossmaglen v Tir na nÓg (Jim Lynch)
All-County U-16 League – Group B (7.30)
Clann Eireann v Shane O'Neill's (Stephen Murray)
Armagh Harps v Grange (Paul Boylan)
Killeavy v Naomh Eoin (Off)

Friday 14 August
Senior Football Championship (7.15)
Ballymacnab v Armagh Harps (Jim Burns) at Athletic Grounds
Killeavy v St Patrick's (Ger Devlin) at Carrickcruppen
ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Clann Eireann v St Michael's (Joe Murtagh)
Ballyhegan v Madden (Paudie Hughes)
Wolfe Tone v Silverbridge (Gary Smith)
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
Annaghmore v Lissummon (Stephen Murray)
St Peter's v An Port Mor (Jim Lynch)
Keady v Belleek (Damian McConville)
ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Crossmaglen II v Dorsey Emmett's (Eugene D Nugent)

Saturday 15 August
Senior Football Championship (7.00)
Dromintee v Granemore (Barney Henry) at Silverbridge
Crossmaglen v Tir na nÓg (Tony O'Hare) at Athletic Grounds

Sunday 16 August
Senior Football Championship
Maghery v Whitecross (Jimmy McKee) at Athletic Grounds (2.00)
Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn (Jim Slevin) at Athletic Grounds (4.00)
Carrickcruppen v Pearse Og (Mickey Leonard) at Ballymacnab (7.00)
U-16 Football Championship Final Replay (5.00) – Extra time, if required
Killeavy v Pearse Og (Kevin McNeice) at Ballymacnab
ACL – Div. I (2.00)
Sarsfields v Culloville (Barney Henry)
ACL – Div. II (2.00)
Wolfe Tone v Ballyhegan (Kevin Gallogly)
ACL – Div. III (2.00)
Belleek v Shane O'Neill's (Paudie Hughes)
Collegeland v St Paul's (Jim Burns)
Lissummon v Middletown (Off)
An Port Mor v Keady (Kevin Murtagh)
St Peter's v Clonmore (Jim Lynch)
Tullysaran v Annaghmore (Joe Murtagh)
ACL – Div. IV (2.00)
Crossmaglen II v O'Hanlon's (Patrick Duffy)
Derrynoose v Killean (Eugene D Nugent)
Eire Og v Forkhill (Mickey Leonard)
Grange v Dorsey Emmett's (Seamus O'Neill)
Mullaghbrack v Corrinshego (Vincent O'Neill)
Phelim Brady's v Clady (Stephen McKinley)

Monday 17 August
All-County Minor League – Group A (7.30)
Ballymacnab v Shane O'Neill's (Kevin Gallogly)
Clan na Gael v Tir na nÓg (TBC)
All-County Minor League – Group B (7.30)
Granemore v Killeavy (Noel Martin)
Clann Eireann v Wolfe Tone (Seamus O'Neill)
St Patrick's v Keady (Dessie McDonnell)

Tuesday 18 August
ACL – Div. III (7.15)
St Peter's v An Port Mor (Seamus O'Neill)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on August 10, 2009, 08:13:17 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on August 10, 2009, 08:02:41 PM
If the fixtures for this week are put up on Orchard County could someone copy them here (I'm not a member of OC)?

There you go, but you don't need to sign in to access the fixtures/results section of that site.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on August 10, 2009, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 10, 2009, 07:14:42 PM
Quote from: pearseog on August 10, 2009, 02:57:43 PM
come on TAC, harsh sending off! 
he shouldered ciaran trainor in the face and then as christy kane was running past he buried him. lad should get a heavy suspension.
this wasnt the only incident. later on another ogs player got a late shoulder in the face, lucky he didn't break his jaw. marty mcquilan came simply to hit people as well. lucky you ended the match with 14 never mind 15.

I was right in front of the incident and seen it clearly. There was little enough contact. I was genuinely surprised he was sent off. You see them tackles all the time, particular in B football which is always hard hitting. Reminded of the challenge Marty O'Rourke got a second yellow for against Down last year. McQuillan made one challenge in the whole match I think. At 46 he's hardly going to be much of an enforcer. The tackle when a Pearse Ógs fella came flying in near our goal hich caused a pushing and shoving match was at least as bad as the sending off incident.

These things do happen though, I accept you don't always agree with the referee and I'm not going to start making wild allegations about biased referees. Pearse Ógs won the match because they played the better football, no doubt about that.

I know that you can get some controversial decisions in matches and both sets of players and supporters can see their own view of situations but the boy deserved to be sent off. Two dirty tackles in the one play and it was clear as day. The Ogs had just taken control of the game and St. Pats tried to rough it up. It's a common enough thing in football now where teams try to rough up the team that goes in front instead of playing their way out of it. The sending off definitely helped the Ogs but they were the better time anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 10, 2009, 08:42:52 PM
Quote from: corn02 on August 10, 2009, 04:39:44 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 10, 2009, 03:38:12 PM
was refering to brokencrossbar page 871  ::)

To be fair to Crossfire, it wasn't very clear.

Thanks Corn. I could get to like you. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 10, 2009, 09:02:44 PM
Quote from: AFS on August 10, 2009, 08:13:17 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on August 10, 2009, 08:02:41 PM
If the fixtures for this week are put up on Orchard County could someone copy them here (I'm not a member of OC)?

There you go, but you don't need to sign in to access the fixtures/results section of that site.

Thanks AFS - I will remember that for the future.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 10, 2009, 09:19:01 PM
Quote from: ogshead on August 10, 2009, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 10, 2009, 07:14:42 PM
Quote from: pearseog on August 10, 2009, 02:57:43 PM
come on TAC, harsh sending off! 
he shouldered ciaran trainor in the face and then as christy kane was running past he buried him. lad should get a heavy suspension.
this wasnt the only incident. later on another ogs player got a late shoulder in the face, lucky he didn't break his jaw. marty mcquilan came simply to hit people as well. lucky you ended the match with 14 never mind 15.

I was right in front of the incident and seen it clearly. There was little enough contact. I was genuinely surprised he was sent off. You see them tackles all the time, particular in B football which is always hard hitting. Reminded of the challenge Marty O'Rourke got a second yellow for against Down last year. McQuillan made one challenge in the whole match I think. At 46 he's hardly going to be much of an enforcer. The tackle when a Pearse Ógs fella came flying in near our goal hich caused a pushing and shoving match was at least as bad as the sending off incident.

These things do happen though, I accept you don't always agree with the referee and I'm not going to start making wild allegations about biased referees. Pearse Ógs won the match because they played the better football, no doubt about that.

I know that you can get some controversial decisions in matches and both sets of players and supporters can see their own view of situations but the boy deserved to be sent off. Two dirty tackles in the one play and it was clear as day. The Ogs had just taken control of the game and St. Pats tried to rough it up. It's a common enough thing in football now where teams try to rough up the team that goes in front instead of playing their way out of it. The sending off definitely helped the Ogs but they were the better time anyway

Switch the jerseys round and I'd say you'd have a different view. Anyway no point in going on about it.

Predictions for this weekend

Ballymacnab v Armagh Harps (Jim Burns) at Athletic Grounds Harps
Killeavy v St Patrick's (Ger Devlin) at Carrickcruppen St Pat's
Dromintee v Granemore (Barney Henry) at Silverbridge Dromintee
Crossmaglen v Tir na nÓg (Tony O'Hare) at Athletic Grounds Crossmaglen
Maghery v Whitecross (Jimmy McKee) at Athletic Grounds Whitecross
Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn (Jim Slevin) at Athletic Grounds Clan na Gael
Carrickcruppen v Pearse Og (Mickey Leonard) at Ballymacnab Pearse Ógs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 10, 2009, 09:32:15 PM
anyone came across any betting for the first round games. I see toals in lurgan where offering odds for last weekends down championship but no sign of odds for the Armagh one yet.>???????????????????

I would be taking a poke at Clans, St Pats and Maghery as a treble pending on prices.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on August 11, 2009, 07:39:24 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 10, 2009, 09:19:01 PM
Quote from: ogshead on August 10, 2009, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 10, 2009, 07:14:42 PM
Quote from: pearseog on August 10, 2009, 02:57:43 PM
come on TAC, harsh sending off! 
he shouldered ciaran trainor in the face and then as christy kane was running past he buried him. lad should get a heavy suspension.
this wasnt the only incident. later on another ogs player got a late shoulder in the face, lucky he didn't break his jaw. marty mcquilan came simply to hit people as well. lucky you ended the match with 14 never mind 15.

I was right in front of the incident and seen it clearly. There was little enough contact. I was genuinely surprised he was sent off. You see them tackles all the time, particular in B football which is always hard hitting. Reminded of the challenge Marty O'Rourke got a second yellow for against Down last year. McQuillan made one challenge in the whole match I think. At 46 he's hardly going to be much of an enforcer. The tackle when a Pearse Ógs fella came flying in near our goal hich caused a pushing and shoving match was at least as bad as the sending off incident.

These things do happen though, I accept you don't always agree with the referee and I'm not going to start making wild allegations about biased referees. Pearse Ógs won the match because they played the better football, no doubt about that.

I know that you can get some controversial decisions in matches and both sets of players and supporters can see their own view of situations but the boy deserved to be sent off. Two dirty tackles in the one play and it was clear as day. The Ogs had just taken control of the game and St. Pats tried to rough it up. It's a common enough thing in football now where teams try to rough up the team that goes in front instead of playing their way out of it. The sending off definitely helped the Ogs but they were the better time anyway

Switch the jerseys round and I'd say you'd have a different view. Anyway no point in going on about it.

Predictions for this weekend

Ballymacnab v Armagh Harps (Jim Burns) at Athletic Grounds Harps
Killeavy v St Patrick's (Ger Devlin) at Carrickcruppen St Pat's
Dromintee v Granemore (Barney Henry) at Silverbridge Dromintee
Crossmaglen v Tir na nÓg (Tony O'Hare) at Athletic Grounds Crossmaglen
Maghery v Whitecross (Jimmy McKee) at Athletic Grounds Whitecross
Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn (Jim Slevin) at Athletic Grounds Clan na Gael
Carrickcruppen v Pearse Og (Mickey Leonard) at Ballymacnab Pearse Ógs
I'll go for Harps, St Pats, Dromintee, Cross, Maghery, Clans and Cruppen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 11, 2009, 09:40:53 AM
my predictions nab,st.pats,g/more,cross, w/cross draw,clans, p/ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 11, 2009, 11:21:08 AM
I'd go with

Ballymacnab - Harps been mediocre all year, expect it continue into championship
St Pat's - Killeavy are strong up front but tend to be exposed in defence
Dromintee - Dromintee to win with a few to spare, won't buy into recent results
Crossmaglen - No chance for portadown
Whitecross - maghery are missing 6/7 regulars due to suspension/injury
Ogs - Will have too much for carrickcruppen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 11, 2009, 12:27:43 PM
I think the only certainty is Cross - every other match could go either way. Wouldnt rule out a draw or two!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 11, 2009, 12:40:44 PM
Is Collie Holmes allowed to play for the Harps? They should be too strong around the middle for the Nab.

I'd go with -

Harps
St Pat's
Granemore to shock Dromintee - There's normally one!
Crossmaglen
Whitecross - maghery Draw
Ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on August 11, 2009, 12:42:53 PM
Yes Collie is allowed to play

Harps
Killeavey
Dromintee
Cross
Whitecross
Ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 11, 2009, 02:13:17 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on August 11, 2009, 12:42:53 PM
Yes Collie is allowed to play

Harps
Killeavey
Dromintee
Cross
Whitecross
Ogs

Whats wrong with clans v Mullaghbawn? is it too close to call ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 11, 2009, 03:23:25 PM
sorry 2 bad teams thought they were in the junior ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on August 11, 2009, 03:43:21 PM
nab
cullyhana
granemore
cross
whitecross
clans
pearse og
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 11, 2009, 03:46:50 PM
For ourselves the heart says Dromintee, but as the game edges closer the head is saying Granemore. Play well and we will win, but anything below that and we are in trouble. If it is tight I fear we will come out on the wrng side.

Harps
Killeavy
Granemore, by a point.  :(
Tir na....Cross
Maghery
Mullaghbawn
I think an upset is on the cards and Cruppen will take Ogs after a replay.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on August 11, 2009, 03:54:06 PM

Ballymacnab v Armagh Harps (Jim Burns) at Athletic Grounds
Harps will probably  be able to galvanise everyone for a championship performance and i'd expect them to win comfortably, 5-6 points.

Killeavy v St Patrick's (Ger Devlin) at Carrickcruppen St Pat's
Tight game. Cullyhanna's reconrd against killeavy has been very good and with the league still distracting the killeavy men i think cullyhanna will win by 3 or 4

Dromintee v Granemore (Barney Henry) at Silverbridge Dromintee
Hard to know what to make of dromintee at the minute. certainly i think corn is swinging the lead but granemore seem to be going very well and scoring very heavily. draw.

Crossmaglen v Tir na nÓg (Tony O'Hare) at Athletic Grounds Crossmaglen
hammering

Maghery v Whitecross (Jimmy McKee) at Athletic Grounds Whitecross
I think Lavery is suspended and i think that will tip the game in whitecross' favour. plus, whitecross have more of a championship pedigree in recent years whitcross 3-4 points

Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn (Jim Slevin) at Athletic Grounds Clan na Gael
Nothing much in this one but Mullaghbawn may be able to eek out enough scores to frustrate clans. Mullaghbawn 1-2 points

Carrickcruppen v Pearse Og (Mickey Leonard) at Ballymacnab Pearse Ógs
Ogs should creep home if they're firing on all cylinders. 2-3 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: corn02 on August 11, 2009, 04:06:26 PM
Quote from: The GAA on August 11, 2009, 03:54:06 PM



Dromintee v Granemore (Barney Henry) at Silverbridge Dromintee
Hard to know what to make of dromintee at the minute. certainly i think corn is swinging the lead but granemore seem to be going very well and scoring very heavily. draw.


Maybe being a tad pessimistic, but the indications are there that Granemore could shock us.

But, as I said, any decent performance will get us through.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 11, 2009, 04:30:02 PM
Any word of betting yet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: slievegullion on August 11, 2009, 05:25:48 PM
I remember 3 years ago ladbrokes were doing odds for the individual club games online, doesn't seem to be any of that about anymore. ONL says its cos too many online bookies got burnt because they didn't do enough research.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 11, 2009, 08:23:30 PM
Intermediate Chamiopnship Quarter Final  Friday 7th August 2009
Wolfe Tones 1-12 St.Peters 2-6
A superb last fifteen minutes from Wolfe Tones provided the catalyst for a championship win against near rivals St.Peters on Friday evening at Clann Eireann and sees the team progress to the last four   of the championship for the 2nd time in 3 seasons. 
The game started in a cagey fashion and it was the 6th minute before any real incident of note.  Gerard Kavanagh, who's inspiring second half performance against Collegeland, led to him earning a starting place, continued where he had left off in the previous round and opened the scoring with a fine point.  Connor McCarron, who had been gaining a lot of possession in the early stages, found Gerard with a cross field pass and Gerard was able to turn his man and kick a score from 25 yards. 
This point should have settled the Tones, but less than 60 seconds later Tones keeper Kieran Murray was picking the ball out of his net.  After possession was given away cheaply, Darren Moore was afforded too much space and drove the ball past Kieran Murray from a narrow angle, beating Kieran at the far post.  St.Peters appeared to receive a confidence boost after this and after Emmet Haughian had missed a free, Keith Totton was able to kick a fine point after St.Peters worked the ball to him cooly under pressure from the Tones defence. 
More sloppy play from the Tones in their own defence in the 15th minute allowed St.Peters centre half back Chris Toman to make a surge up the field and shoot a fine score with his weaker left foot.  This was immediately cancelled out by a fine Tones score from corner forward Emmet Haughian.  After winning possession Emmet was able to beat his man and kick a fine score on the run from around 30 yards. 
Both sides then exchanged wides, before the Lurgan side extended their lead.  A lack of communication in the Tones defence was punished by a St.Peters point and the freecrow men where enjoying a 5 point advantage after 24 minutes. 
The Tones rallied in the remaining minutes of the half and where able to reduce the deficit to three points going into the interval.  After 27 minutes, after great work by minor players Chris McCarron and James Lavery, James slipped the ball through to Chris McAlinden who briefly had a sight of goal, but he took the sensible option and fisted the ball over the bar.  Ryan McQuillan then made a fine solo run down the Tones left in the 29th minute and after he was pulled down Chris McAlinden converted this was the last meaningful event of the first half. 
Half Time Wolfe Tones 0-04 St.Peters 1-4
St.Peters will have been slightly aggrieved to only be three points ahead at half time, but after only a minute of the second half they put four points between the sides. 
Wolfe Tones had to wait 8 minutes of the second half before registering their first score which was a Chris McAlinden free from around 35 yards.  This was followed by wides from Niall Geoghegan and Conor Coleman.  After 43 minutes, Declan Lavery was able to get his first point for the Tones after a long time on the sidelines with injury.  Gerard Kavanagh was able to win possession and lay it off to Declan who sent over a fine score with his left foot. 
At this stage, the Tones seemed to be in the ascendancy, however, they where hit with a sucker punch after 14 minutes of the second half.  Owen McCormack's run was not followed and he was able to sell Chris McCarron a fine dummy and unselfishly squared the ball to Darren Moore who had the simple task of punching to the net from 3 yards.  The Tones did not panic and responded immediately with a free from Chris McAlinden, his 4th of the game.     
After 48 minutes, Davey Wilson scored arguably the score of the game from around 35 yards out from a narrow angle he as able to kick a point with his left foot leaving 5 points again between the sides.  The Tones again showed great character to immediately respond with a score of their own.  Declan Lavery, who was getting more involved in a half forward position, struck a fine scored from 35 yards to leave the Tones within touching distance. 
In the 50th minute came a crucial moment in the game.  John Toal who had just been introduced as a substitute, looked to have cut the deficit again when his shot appeared to be going over the bar.  The ball hit the post and the quickest man to react was Gerard Kavanagh who blasted to the net , to leave the minimum between the sides.  In the 51st minute, Chris McAlinden added another free and the sides where level for the first time since the sixth minute. 
St.Peters then appeared to be awarded a soft free after Conor Coleman was adjudged to have thrown the ball.  David Wilson had the simple task of kicking a point from 21 yards and he duly obliged to put St.Peters a point ahead again. 
With five minutes remaining the Tones where frantically pushing for an equaliser.  The ball broke to Brendan Coleman who's snapshot went over the bar to bring the sides level.  With three minutes remaining, James Lavery showed experience beyond his years to put the Tones in front for only the second time of the game.  James was in a large crowd of p[layers and rather than recycle the ball swung onto his weaker left foot and scored a wonderful point from 35 yards.   In the 58th minute, John Toal who had been very dangerous since his introduction turned his man and when a possible goal was on wisely fisted the point. 
Two minutes into injury time John Toal was at it again, turned his man and kicking a fine point to leave three points between the sides.  St.Peters where now desperately for a goal and after Barry Keegan had kicked a wayward free wide, Brendan Coleman made a great late block before the referee blew for full time. 
The last 15 minutes was very exciting and credit must go to both teams for this.  Tones will be encouraged by the 1-9 they where able to score in the last 22 minutes of the game and the fight and team spirit that the players showed in the last quarter of the game and can now look forward to the semi final on either Saturday 29 August or Sunday 30 August.
Full time Wolfe Tones 1-13 St.Peters 2-7
Wolfe Tones team; Kieran Murray, Michael Carson, David Heaney, Chris McCarron, Connor McCarron, Finnian Moriarty, Ryan McQuillan, James Lavery(0-01), Conor Coleman,  Niall Geoghegan, Chris McAlinden(0-05 ,4 f) Brendan Coleman(0-01), Declan Lavery(0-02), Gerard Kavanagh(1-01) and Emmet Haughian(0-01)  Subs: John Toal(0-02) for Connor McCarron
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fred the red on August 11, 2009, 08:52:45 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 11, 2009, 08:23:30 PM
Intermediate Chamiopnship Quarter Final  Friday 7th August 2009
Wolfe Tones 1-12 St.Peters 2-6
A superb last fifteen minutes from Wolfe Tones provided the catalyst for a championship win against near rivals St.Peters on Friday evening at Clann Eireann and sees the team progress to the last four   of the championship for the 2nd time in 3 seasons. 
The game started in a cagey fashion and it was the 6th minute before any real incident of note.  Gerard Kavanagh, who's inspiring second half performance against Collegeland, led to him earning a starting place, continued where he had left off in the previous round and opened the scoring with a fine point.  Connor McCarron, who had been gaining a lot of possession in the early stages, found Gerard with a cross field pass and Gerard was able to turn his man and kick a score from 25 yards. 
This point should have settled the Tones, but less than 60 seconds later Tones keeper Kieran Murray was picking the ball out of his net.  After possession was given away cheaply, Darren Moore was afforded too much space and drove the ball past Kieran Murray from a narrow angle, beating Kieran at the far post.  St.Peters appeared to receive a confidence boost after this and after Emmet Haughian had missed a free, Keith Totton was able to kick a fine point after St.Peters worked the ball to him cooly under pressure from the Tones defence. 
More sloppy play from the Tones in their own defence in the 15th minute allowed St.Peters centre half back Chris Toman to make a surge up the field and shoot a fine score with his weaker left foot.  This was immediately cancelled out by a fine Tones score from corner forward Emmet Haughian.  After winning possession Emmet was able to beat his man and kick a fine score on the run from around 30 yards. 
Both sides then exchanged wides, before the Lurgan side extended their lead.  A lack of communication in the Tones defence was punished by a St.Peters point and the freecrow men where enjoying a 5 point advantage after 24 minutes. 
The Tones rallied in the remaining minutes of the half and where able to reduce the deficit to three points going into the interval.  After 27 minutes, after great work by minor players Chris McCarron and James Lavery, James slipped the ball through to Chris McAlinden who briefly had a sight of goal, but he took the sensible option and fisted the ball over the bar.  Ryan McQuillan then made a fine solo run down the Tones left in the 29th minute and after he was pulled down Chris McAlinden converted this was the last meaningful event of the first half. 
Half Time Wolfe Tones 0-04 St.Peters 1-4
St.Peters will have been slightly aggrieved to only be three points ahead at half time, but after only a minute of the second half they put four points between the sides. 
Wolfe Tones had to wait 8 minutes of the second half before registering their first score which was a Chris McAlinden free from around 35 yards.  This was followed by wides from Niall Geoghegan and Conor Coleman.  After 43 minutes, Declan Lavery was able to get his first point for the Tones after a long time on the sidelines with injury.  Gerard Kavanagh was able to win possession and lay it off to Declan who sent over a fine score with his left foot. 
At this stage, the Tones seemed to be in the ascendancy, however, they where hit with a sucker punch after 14 minutes of the second half.  Owen McCormack's run was not followed and he was able to sell Chris McCarron a fine dummy and unselfishly squared the ball to Darren Moore who had the simple task of punching to the net from 3 yards.  The Tones did not panic and responded immediately with a free from Chris McAlinden, his 4th of the game.     
After 48 minutes, Davey Wilson scored arguably the score of the game from around 35 yards out from a narrow angle he as able to kick a point with his left foot leaving 5 points again between the sides.  The Tones again showed great character to immediately respond with a score of their own.  Declan Lavery, who was getting more involved in a half forward position, struck a fine scored from 35 yards to leave the Tones within touching distance. 
In the 50th minute came a crucial moment in the game.  John Toal who had just been introduced as a substitute, looked to have cut the deficit again when his shot appeared to be going over the bar.  The ball hit the post and the quickest man to react was Gerard Kavanagh who blasted to the net , to leave the minimum between the sides.  In the 51st minute, Chris McAlinden added another free and the sides where level for the first time since the sixth minute. 
St.Peters then appeared to be awarded a soft free after Conor Coleman was adjudged to have thrown the ball.  David Wilson had the simple task of kicking a point from 21 yards and he duly obliged to put St.Peters a point ahead again. 
With five minutes remaining the Tones where frantically pushing for an equaliser.  The ball broke to Brendan Coleman who's snapshot went over the bar to bring the sides level.  With three minutes remaining, James Lavery showed experience beyond his years to put the Tones in front for only the second time of the game.  James was in a large crowd of p[layers and rather than recycle the ball swung onto his weaker left foot and scored a wonderful point from 35 yards.   In the 58th minute, John Toal who had been very dangerous since his introduction turned his man and when a possible goal was on wisely fisted the point. 
Two minutes into injury time John Toal was at it again, turned his man and kicking a fine point to leave three points between the sides.  St.Peters where now desperately for a goal and after Barry Keegan had kicked a wayward free wide, Brendan Coleman made a great late block before the referee blew for full time. 
The last 15 minutes was very exciting and credit must go to both teams for this.  Tones will be encouraged by the 1-9 they where able to score in the last 22 minutes of the game and the fight and team spirit that the players showed in the last quarter of the game and can now look forward to the semi final on either Saturday 29 August or Sunday 30 August.
Full time Wolfe Tones 1-13 St.Peters 2-7
Wolfe Tones team; Kieran Murray, Michael Carson, David Heaney, Chris McCarron, Connor McCarron, Finnian Moriarty, Ryan McQuillan, James Lavery(0-01), Conor Coleman,  Niall Geoghegan, Chris McAlinden(0-05 ,4 f) Brendan Coleman(0-01), Declan Lavery(0-02), Gerard Kavanagh(1-01) and Emmet Haughian(0-01)  Subs: John Toal(0-02) for Connor McCarron

great post charles
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 11, 2009, 09:28:40 PM
Ballymacnab v Armagh Harps (Jim Burns) at Athletic Grounds
the harps be coming off a heavy defeat last week and a poor league campaign.the nab will be confident after great win against maghery last weekend.  think harps have something in the tank though hareps by 2

Killeavy v St Patrick's (Ger Devlin) at Carrickcruppen St Pat's
think cullyhana be eager make an impression this year after coasting to intemediate last year.  kileavey will have the thought of relegation on mind and have beenn leaking big score st.pats by 3

Dromintee v Granemore (Barney Henry) at Silverbridge Dromintee
saw dromintee v sarsfields few weeks back and they where awful.oneill and miceal o rourke be big lossess and granemore had a good win v harps at the weekend.  think dromintee championship experience carry them through dromintee by 3

Crossmaglen v Tir na nÓg (Tony O'Hare) at Athletic Grounds Crossmaglen
double figures

Maghery v Whitecross (Jimmy McKee) at Athletic Grounds Whitecross
would have fancied maghery if lavery wasnt out, though i saw them them play 14 men tir na nog this year and where lucky to win by point.  will be an edge to this after the row other week me thinks.expect fireworks whitecros by 1

Clan na Gael v Mullaghbawn (Jim Slevin) at Athletic Grounds Clan na Gael
saw the league game few weeks back, one word awful.  not the clans fault they tried to play a bit mbwn played 13 men behind the ball was terrible to watch.  think the clans will miss stefan campbell and could be a low scoreing draw!

Carrickcruppen v Pearse Og (Mickey Leonard) at Ballymacnab Pearse Ógs
ogs by 2 should be a good game.cruppen on the slide a bit in recent weeks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 11, 2009, 09:41:26 PM
very big weekend for us this weekend.  need to break the home duck for the year this weekend.  two 4 pointers v silverbridge fri and ballyhegan sun.  hopefully the lads can carry on the cship wins from these games.  think we could have won in the bridge this sreason but played 2nd half with 14 men.  beat ballyhegan by 7 or 8 at their place level at halftime hopefully both teams be on a downer after last weekends cship defeats
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Nailed On on August 11, 2009, 09:50:59 PM
Quote from: fred the red on August 11, 2009, 08:52:45 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 11, 2009, 08:23:30 PM
Intermediate Chamiopnship Quarter Final  Friday 7th August 2009
Wolfe Tones 1-12 St.Peters 2-6
A superb last fifteen minutes from Wolfe Tones provided the catalyst for a championship win against near rivals St.Peters on Friday evening at Clann Eireann and sees the team progress to the last four   of the championship for the 2nd time in 3 seasons. 
The game started in a cagey fashion and it was the 6th minute before any real incident of note.  Gerard Kavanagh, who's inspiring second half performance against Collegeland, led to him earning a starting place, continued where he had left off in the previous round and opened the scoring with a fine point.  Connor McCarron, who had been gaining a lot of possession in the early stages, found Gerard with a cross field pass and Gerard was able to turn his man and kick a score from 25 yards. 
This point should have settled the Tones, but less than 60 seconds later Tones keeper Kieran Murray was picking the ball out of his net.  After possession was given away cheaply, Darren Moore was afforded too much space and drove the ball past Kieran Murray from a narrow angle, beating Kieran at the far post.  St.Peters appeared to receive a confidence boost after this and after Emmet Haughian had missed a free, Keith Totton was able to kick a fine point after St.Peters worked the ball to him cooly under pressure from the Tones defence. 
More sloppy play from the Tones in their own defence in the 15th minute allowed St.Peters centre half back Chris Toman to make a surge up the field and shoot a fine score with his weaker left foot.  This was immediately cancelled out by a fine Tones score from corner forward Emmet Haughian.  After winning possession Emmet was able to beat his man and kick a fine score on the run from around 30 yards. 
Both sides then exchanged wides, before the Lurgan side extended their lead.  A lack of communication in the Tones defence was punished by a St.Peters point and the freecrow men where enjoying a 5 point advantage after 24 minutes. 
The Tones rallied in the remaining minutes of the half and where able to reduce the deficit to three points going into the interval.  After 27 minutes, after great work by minor players Chris McCarron and James Lavery, James slipped the ball through to Chris McAlinden who briefly had a sight of goal, but he took the sensible option and fisted the ball over the bar.  Ryan McQuillan then made a fine solo run down the Tones left in the 29th minute and after he was pulled down Chris McAlinden converted this was the last meaningful event of the first half. 
Half Time Wolfe Tones 0-04 St.Peters 1-4
St.Peters will have been slightly aggrieved to only be three points ahead at half time, but after only a minute of the second half they put four points between the sides. 
Wolfe Tones had to wait 8 minutes of the second half before registering their first score which was a Chris McAlinden free from around 35 yards.  This was followed by wides from Niall Geoghegan and Conor Coleman.  After 43 minutes, Declan Lavery was able to get his first point for the Tones after a long time on the sidelines with injury.  Gerard Kavanagh was able to win possession and lay it off to Declan who sent over a fine score with his left foot. 
At this stage, the Tones seemed to be in the ascendancy, however, they where hit with a sucker punch after 14 minutes of the second half.  Owen McCormack's run was not followed and he was able to sell Chris McCarron a fine dummy and unselfishly squared the ball to Darren Moore who had the simple task of punching to the net from 3 yards.  The Tones did not panic and responded immediately with a free from Chris McAlinden, his 4th of the game.     
After 48 minutes, Davey Wilson scored arguably the score of the game from around 35 yards out from a narrow angle he as able to kick a point with his left foot leaving 5 points again between the sides.  The Tones again showed great character to immediately respond with a score of their own.  Declan Lavery, who was getting more involved in a half forward position, struck a fine scored from 35 yards to leave the Tones within touching distance. 
In the 50th minute came a crucial moment in the game.  John Toal who had just been introduced as a substitute, looked to have cut the deficit again when his shot appeared to be going over the bar.  The ball hit the post and the quickest man to react was Gerard Kavanagh who blasted to the net , to leave the minimum between the sides.  In the 51st minute, Chris McAlinden added another free and the sides where level for the first time since the sixth minute. 
St.Peters then appeared to be awarded a soft free after Conor Coleman was adjudged to have thrown the ball.  David Wilson had the simple task of kicking a point from 21 yards and he duly obliged to put St.Peters a point ahead again. 
With five minutes remaining the Tones where frantically pushing for an equaliser.  The ball broke to Brendan Coleman who's snapshot went over the bar to bring the sides level.  With three minutes remaining, James Lavery showed experience beyond his years to put the Tones in front for only the second time of the game.  James was in a large crowd of p[layers and rather than recycle the ball swung onto his weaker left foot and scored a wonderful point from 35 yards.   In the 58th minute, John Toal who had been very dangerous since his introduction turned his man and when a possible goal was on wisely fisted the point. 
Two minutes into injury time John Toal was at it again, turned his man and kicking a fine point to leave three points between the sides.  St.Peters where now desperately for a goal and after Barry Keegan had kicked a wayward free wide, Brendan Coleman made a great late block before the referee blew for full time. 
The last 15 minutes was very exciting and credit must go to both teams for this.  Tones will be encouraged by the 1-9 they where able to score in the last 22 minutes of the game and the fight and team spirit that the players showed in the last quarter of the game and can now look forward to the semi final on either Saturday 29 August or Sunday 30 August.
Full time Wolfe Tones 1-13 St.Peters 2-7
Wolfe Tones team; Kieran Murray, Michael Carson, David Heaney, Chris McCarron, Connor McCarron, Finnian Moriarty, Ryan McQuillan, James Lavery(0-01), Conor Coleman,  Niall Geoghegan, Chris McAlinden(0-05 ,4 f) Brendan Coleman(0-01), Declan Lavery(0-02), Gerard Kavanagh(1-01) and Emmet Haughian(0-01)  Subs: John Toal(0-02) for Connor McCarron

great post charles

Do you honestly believe Charles writes these??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 11, 2009, 09:52:44 PM
http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Football/News/IFC-Quarter-Final-Sarsfields-v-Cullaville-Highligh.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 11, 2009, 09:53:31 PM
nailed on whats up? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 11, 2009, 09:59:00 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 11, 2009, 09:41:26 PM
very big weekend for us this weekend.  need to break the home duck for the year this weekend.  two 4 pointers v silverbridge fri and ballyhegan sun.  hopefully the lads can carry on the cship wins from these games.  think we could have won in the bridge this sreason but played 2nd half with 14 men.  beat ballyhegan by 7 or 8 at their place level at halftime hopefully both teams be on a downer after last weekends cship defeats

I hope it's a disaster for yous Friday night  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 11, 2009, 10:01:21 PM
likewise ;) hopefully a better game thanat your place it was terrible 0-09-0-07 or something i think!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 11, 2009, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 11, 2009, 10:01:21 PM
likewise ;) hopefully a better game thanat your place it was terrible 0-09-0-07 or something i think!
I dont care if it's 0-01 to 0-00 as long as we're the ones with the point!

BIG game for both sides.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 11, 2009, 11:05:25 PM
charlie stubbs would make a great PRO!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 12, 2009, 01:28:24 AM
Quote from: qub la la la on August 11, 2009, 11:05:25 PM
charlie stubbs would make a great PRO!
Wolfe Tones certainly lucky to have someone of charlie's calibre at the helm...funny you only report on them when they're winning  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on August 12, 2009, 12:06:50 PM
heard a rumour Banty & justin mc nulty sounded out for ma job!!! :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on August 12, 2009, 02:01:56 PM
Quote from: qub la la la on August 11, 2009, 11:05:25 PM
charlie stubbs would make a great PRO!

I agree. I also hear he has been rolling back the years for the Tones B team this season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on August 12, 2009, 02:46:07 PM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on August 12, 2009, 12:06:50 PM
heard a rumour Banty & justin mc nulty sounded out for ma job!!! :-\

who would be doing any sounding out given that there is no selection committee appointed yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 12, 2009, 03:32:04 PM
banty isn't that  one of the big joe conspiracy theory's. justin not experienced enough. Give it to Grimley
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JMohan on August 12, 2009, 03:33:55 PM
I'd be amazed if Grimley doesn't get it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JMohan on August 12, 2009, 03:35:51 PM
In fact the bigger question is who would be in the backroom team
As we know with the successful team there were 3 wise men all with strong characters - I think that was evidently missing this year - it seemed like one man on his own. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on August 12, 2009, 04:04:28 PM
The fitness trainer could be an important part of this, when you see the likes of Cork zipping around it is obvious that Armagh are not at the races (pardon the pun).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JMohan on August 12, 2009, 04:11:17 PM
Who was over that this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 12, 2009, 07:12:47 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 12, 2009, 01:28:24 AM
Quote from: qub la la la on August 11, 2009, 11:05:25 PM
charlie stubbs would make a great PRO!
Wolfe Tones certainly lucky to have someone of charlie's calibre at the helm...funny you only report on them when they're winning  ;)

i think you will see reports from madden and granemore fitz games we lost ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 12, 2009, 08:37:33 PM
intermediate semis

tones v newtown
cullaville v keady
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 13, 2009, 12:03:51 AM
 ;) apologies charles trying to catch you out there...draw certainly suits the tones, no easy games at this stage but u's will certainly fancy your chances of progressing!!
Title: Bredagh Talks Sam& Liam Sept 3rd @8.30pm Wellington Park Hotel
Post by: bredaghgael on August 13, 2009, 01:05:46 AM
  Regular guest Joe Brolly will be joined this year by fellow Derry man and Antrim Football Manager Liam Bradley,
Armagh's Oisin Mc Conville and Cork's All-Ireland Hurling winning Captain in 1990,RTE Hurling analyst Tomás Mulcahy.
Other guests will be confirmed closer to the event
Throw-in @ 8.30pm and MC for the event will be Jerome Quinn.

Tickets £10 to include entry to a draw for two All-Ireland Hurling Final tickets and two All-Ireland Football Final tickets
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 13, 2009, 10:54:41 AM
Denis Hollywood was the fitness trainer this year.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 13, 2009, 12:18:40 PM
Did I hear right that Denis Hollywood was playing for Newtown last week in the C'ship against the 'Bridge?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JMohan on August 13, 2009, 12:51:36 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on August 13, 2009, 10:54:41 AM
Denis Hollywood was the fitness trainer this year.....

Thanks - fitness seemed a big issue this year against Monaghan - but again it's easy saying that when everything else is going poorly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 13, 2009, 02:21:45 PM
Betting with Bar-One

11/8 Ballymacnab - 7/1 Draw - Harps 8/11

5/4 Killeavy - 7/1 Draw - St Pat's 4/5

4/9 Dromintee - 7/1 Draw - Granemore 9/4

1/33 Crossmaglen - 16/1 Draw - Tir Na nOg 20/1

10/11 Maghery - 7/1 Draw - Whitecross 11/10

4/5 Clan Na Gael - 7/1 Draw - Mullaghbawn 5/4

15/8 Carrickcruppen - 7/1 Draw - Pearse Ogs 8/15
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 13, 2009, 02:37:36 PM
Nice wee accum, Harps, whitecross, clans and st. pats ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on August 13, 2009, 03:33:45 PM
selection panel for the new manager of armagh has been decided:

Dr Eugene Young Indpendant Chair
Paul McGrane - ex county Player
Gerard Davidson - club rep
Chair and Secretary of the County Board - Kevin Brady and Paddy Og Nugent

dont know what 'side' eugene young would favour but am sure the county board wouldnt pick anyone without being assured he will pick 'their' man. i.e. not grimley. grimley will not be going for an interview as he is not prepared to sign the nomination forms.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on August 13, 2009, 03:48:51 PM
Good for you pearse og, glad you have the whole thing worked out already.  I feel it is a fair enough process, and obviously you have no idea of the type of man Eugene Young is or you'd not be throwing statements like that around.  Eugene Young is nobody's man and will take no cr*p so you'd just need to get your facts right before shouting your mouth off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on August 13, 2009, 04:16:27 PM
Quote from: orange2009 on August 13, 2009, 03:48:51 PM
Good for you pearse og, glad you have the whole thing worked out already.  I feel it is a fair enough process, and obviously you have no idea of the type of man Eugene Young is or you'd not be throwing statements like that around.  Eugene Young is nobody's man and will take no cr*p so you'd just need to get your facts right before shouting your mouth off

First county board member on the board?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 13, 2009, 04:19:27 PM
pearseog according to our club delegate any proposed manager must have the agreement of the clubs before being appointed. I think this committee can approach any potential manager or the clubs can offer a candidate for consideration. I think your chairman and paul are two strong characters for the job.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on August 13, 2009, 04:21:18 PM
No unfortuneatley not joxer as there is plenty worng up there, but I feel we've got what is akin to the best out of an impossible situation.  Everyone knows that we all want Grimley, and as far as I am aware there is the opportunity for a member of the panel to approach someone who has not been nominated, so that may get around Grimley having to declare his hand publicly
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on August 13, 2009, 04:55:26 PM
he wouldnt have to declare his interest publicly if gerrys on the panel.
the county board have a lot to answer for so and would have a track record for being sly. eugene may not take any crap but if he's thinking along the same lines as the county board he wont have to.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on August 13, 2009, 05:46:54 PM

Eugene Young would be beyond reproach in terms of the ethics of fulfilling this role
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on August 13, 2009, 07:32:07 PM
I do not think Paul McGrane, Gerry Davidson or Eugene Young will take any of the crap being hinted. We have to give the process a fair hearing. It is beyond reproach until proved otherwise. Afterall Paul is a professional Chartered Accountant who has the training and experience in business that will suit this procedure. Gerry runs his own accounts business, and is an Ogs man so is well used to dealing with crap.  ;) Eugene is an outsider with no known preferences and the county board men are no fools and after the grief experienced previously will obviously want the process to be transparent. Although I hoped that Paul Grimley would have been approached first this appears to be the next best solution. To take a soccer comparison Newcastle fans got the manager they wanted last year in Kevin Keegan and look at them now. Maybe this process will unearth a gem if Big Paul will not let his name go forward - hopefully he does though!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 13, 2009, 07:34:08 PM
Quote from: full back on August 13, 2009, 02:21:45 PM
Betting with Bar-One

11/8 Ballymacnab - 7/1 Draw - Harps 8/11

5/4 Killeavy - 7/1 Draw - St Pat's 4/5

4/9 Dromintee - 7/1 Draw - Granemore 9/4

1/33 Crossmaglen - 16/1 Draw - Tir Na nOg 20/1

10/11 Maghery - 7/1 Draw - Whitecross 11/10

4/5 Clan Na Gael - 7/1 Draw - Mullaghbawn 5/4

15/8 Carrickcruppen - 7/1 Draw - Pearse Ogs 8/15

£5 pays £130
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 13, 2009, 08:29:20 PM
I'll have a wee treble on St Pat's, Clans and Maghery and wee £40 treble will do me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu08 on August 13, 2009, 08:31:42 PM
Mullaghbawn are the bet of the weekend imo. Heard from a few Clans fellas they re gonna back them and then throw the match.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stiffler on August 13, 2009, 10:57:20 PM
Quote from: ardmhachaabu08 on August 13, 2009, 08:31:42 PM
Mullaghbawn are the bet of the weekend imo. Heard from a few Clans fellas they re gonna back them and then throw the match.

:o

Hope this is a windup!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 14, 2009, 08:20:24 AM
Quote from: ardmhachaabu08 on August 13, 2009, 08:31:42 PM
Mullaghbawn are the bet of the weekend imo. Heard from a few Clans fellas they re gonna back them and then throw the match.
balls. Pure WUM you are. Talked to a right few of the players this week and theyre well up for the match.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 14, 2009, 12:58:51 PM
Going to have a wee punt on Mullaghbawn, Whitecross and Cullyhanna myself......Think this is the first time this year that we have close to our full squad available to us for the Clans game..pity though that McVerry is unavailable, would have been a big threat up top...


Predictions

Harps
Og's
Cross
Cullyhanna
Whitecross
Mullaghbawn
Dromintee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 14, 2009, 01:08:02 PM
Where can we get these odds? Just in the Bar One shop in Dundalk? Don't think I'd drive to Dundalk just to put on a bet. Is there anywhere online?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 14, 2009, 02:04:47 PM
Dosey Emmets beat Cross 2nds last night in Division 4.
They celebrated as if they had won the all ireland.
Nice to keep someone happy. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SidelineKick on August 14, 2009, 02:40:31 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 14, 2009, 02:04:47 PM
Dosey Emmets beat Cross 2nds last night in Division 4.
They celebrated as if they had won the all ireland.
Nice to keep someone happy. :)

Also nice to see some people don't let success go to their (inflated) head  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 14, 2009, 02:41:29 PM
Is it only Cross allowed to enjoy results then??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 14, 2009, 02:48:39 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 14, 2009, 02:04:47 PM
Dosey Emmets beat Cross 2nds last night in Division 4.
They celebrated as if they had won the all ireland.
Nice to keep someone happy. :)

Tiny rural club in enjoying beating larger richer more illustrious neighbours shocker. What a disgrace to the GAA Dorsey really are.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T O Hare on August 14, 2009, 03:00:33 PM
Well done Dorsey!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Horatio Kane on August 14, 2009, 05:04:03 PM
Fair dues to them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Winnie Peg on August 14, 2009, 06:32:28 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 14, 2009, 02:04:47 PM
Dosey Emmets beat Cross 2nds last night in Division 4.
They celebrated as if they had won the all ireland.
Nice to keep someone happy. :)

Have a some respect crossfire and take your beating. What is wrong with celebrating success or is that just the preserve of Crossmaglen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 14, 2009, 08:01:06 PM
harps lead 7-1 at half time. They are much the better team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on August 14, 2009, 09:24:29 PM
Harps won 0-16 to 0-6  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 14, 2009, 09:25:14 PM
St Pat's 0-13 Killeavy 1-10

I'm a relieved man tonight.  ;D Our equaliser came with the last kick of the game 5 minutes into stoppage time and after Killeavy had won the ball only for one of their defenders to pass it staright to Tony Donnelly who kicked the equaliser. For all the world it looked like we were goners. There'll be complaints about the injury time but I thought it was justified, there were 3 and a half minutes of stoppages for 2 incidents in the last 5 minutes alone. Very very poor second half performance from Cullyhanna, we led 0-8 to 0-6 at half time after playing into a stiff breeze. Looked like we should be safe enough but Killeavy played all the football in the second half, scoring a penalty from a defensive lapse. Both teams hit the crossbar during the match. Killeavy certainly had enough chances to win, Stanfield had a lot of wides in the first half. Think Stevie McDonnell got 5 or 6 points including one superb free into the wind from the right hand touchline, though he missed a much easier chance a few minutes later though.

In a way I suppose we have the momentum going into the replay but we'll need to improve hugely to get into the quarter finals.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 14, 2009, 10:05:11 PM
Rest assured there will be no clans players backing mullaghbawn and lying down on sunday. We will leave this sort of behaviour to the dickheads that play soccer
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on August 14, 2009, 10:51:03 PM
Great team performance from the Harps tonight. The way the season has panned out so far I was worried how the players would react to last weeks heavy league defeat to Granemore, but they got on with the job and they dominated midfield from start to finish and with alot of possession them turned it into scores.

Marty McKenna was excellent at FF but was well supported by Joe Quigley who must have scored 6 points. Ballymacnab were on the backfoot from the start, they seemed to play very deep and when in possession had few options up front.

But a great performance and well done to management team after Nudie had departed.

Best for Harps IMO were Neil McArdle, ohanlon, Richards, swift, ultan lennon, harpo, mmckenna, joe quigley
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: curvey on August 14, 2009, 10:54:30 PM
Wolfe Tones beat Silverbridge by 5pts tonight in Derrymacash. (so i was told)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on August 14, 2009, 11:25:15 PM
i left cruppen tonight feeling very lucky to get a second chance as we hit the point that took the game to a replay well into injury time.cullyhanna played well enough in the first half against a strong wind going in at half time winning 8,6 i thought they would push on and win by 3 or 4 points.Taking tony donnelly out off mid field we lost it big time not one ball did we get we were on the back foot from there on.i never heard when the replay is on but all i can say is i don't think st pats can play as bad again

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 14, 2009, 11:40:11 PM
Quote from: curvey on August 14, 2009, 10:54:30 PM
Wolfe Tones beat Silverbridge by 5pts tonight in Derrymacash. (so i was told)

wolfe tones 0-15 silverbridge 0-10

clann eireann beat newtown
madden beat bhegan good night for us
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2009, 12:44:23 AM
The censorship policy on orchardcounty is a complete joke  >:(

I made a light-hearted comment about how the ref allegedly playing for a draw tongiht might have been revenge for Killeavy not naming their subs for the programme (County board criticised them in the programme for this). A Killeavy man then informed me that part of the reason for this may have been that their manager was involved in a tragic incident this week where 2 of his workmates were killed. I offered my condolences and suggested that, in the circumsatnces, the county board shouldn't have bothered with the snide comments in the programme.

Orchardcounty administrators then deleted the entire conversation, including my condolences on the deaths. Its a sad state of affairs when the fear of the county board has gotten so bad that things like this can't even be discussed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 15, 2009, 01:01:52 AM
Division 2 League Friday 14 August 2009
Wolfe Tones 0-15 v Silverbridge 0-10
Wolfe Tones followed up successive championship wins against Collegeland and St.Peters with a much needed two points against Silverbridge in the league on Friday night.  The Tones, aided by a strong breeze opened the scoring after 3 minutes after a crossfield pass by Gerard Kavanagh and a handling error in the Silverbridge defence,  Niall Geoghegan was the beneficiary and picked up the loose ball and calmed took his point. 
John Toal missed a difficult free from the right hand side, before Declan Lavery doubled the home sides lead after a fine catch from Conor Coleman from the resulting kickout. 
The Tones went further ahead after 7 minutes when Declan Lavery won a breaking ball and shot from 40 yards.  The ball appeared to catch the Silverbridge keeper unawares and he palmed the ball over the bar to give Declan his second score in as many minutes.   In the 8th minute, the Tones were 4 points to the good, when after a terrific ball from Conor Coleman resulted in Emmet Haughian gaining possession and slipping the ball to his fellow corner forward John Toal, who had a brief sight of goal, but took the sensible option of a point. 
Emmet Haughian then opened his account for the evening after 9 minutes when from the left hand side of the field hit a fine snapshot which creeped inside the post. 
After Silverbridge had missed a free, Gerard Kavanagh benefited from a Chris McAlinden shot that had dropped short and turned on a six pence to split the posts after 16 minutes. 
Silverbridge registered their first score into the stiff breeze and Tones where able to breathe a huge sigh of relief that it wasn't three.  After the Silverbridge no.8 went for a point his effort fell short and the no.13 punched the rebound over the ball and could have well found the net if he hadn't have lost his footing. 
On 20 minutes, after the Tones had just registered their third wide of the half, Conor Coleman kicked a monstor of a score from around 45 yards.  The Tones then had their best chance of a goal in the first half, after good work by Conor Coleman, Declan Lavery and Emmet Haughian the ball fell slightly behind John Toal on his weaker right foot and a combination of the Silverbridge defence and goalkeeper where able to smoother the effort. 
As the half drew to a close, Chris McAlinden was able to finish in fine style kicking two points in as many minutes.  The first after a Connor McCarron pass and the second after a fine interception by Conor Coleman in the middle of the field. 
The last action of the half saw the Silverbridge no.12 kick a wide after Niall Geoghegan, who had been restored to the Tones defence after a stint in the half forward line against St.Peters, did well to show the attacker onto his left foot. 
Half time
Wolfe Tones  0-09 Silverbridge 0-01
Though 8 points to the good at half time, Tones knew that they would have to play against a stiff breeze in the second half and that the game was far from over.  Silverbridge opened the scoring after 2 minutes of the second half after a free was moved in for back chat to the referee, the no.14 had the simple task of kicking over from 21 yards. 
The home sides response was immediate.  Conor Coleman played a pass into John Toal, who found James Lavery running off his shoulder to finish a well manufactured move. 
Silverbridge no.7 then joined the attack after 34 minutes and kicked a fine score from 35 yards out near the touchline to reduce the deficit.  After 37 minutes of the game, Kieran Murray was called into the action for the first time and made a fine reflex save to prevent what looked like a certain Silverbridge goal.  The Silverbridge no.15 was able to kick the resulting "45" over the bar. 
On the 40th minute Silverbridge were awarded what appeared to be a soft free for an infringement by Finnian Moriarty and the no.14 kept his cool to score the resulting free, to leave the Tones ahead by double scores 0-10 to 0-5.  A minute later, the Silverbridge no.7 again made a fine foray up the left wing to kick another fine point with his left foot and the away side sensed that they may be able to get something from the game. 
After 43 minutes, Declan Lavery was able to get a vital score for the Tones.  A quick 45 from Chris McAlinden found James Lavery who did well to maintain possession under severe pressure from the Silverbridge defence.  The ball was worked to Niall Geoghegan, who took two defenders out of the game with a fist pass and found Declan Lavery unmarked on the right hand side of the field who duely took his score. 
The sides then traded scores over the next few minutes.  Firstly, the Silverbridge no.26 was able to kick a fine score from around 40 yards.  The Tones where determined not to let the South Armagh side back into the game and responded immediately.  Conor Coleman found Declan Lavery in space around 40 yards out and Declan inturn found Gerard Kavanagh who recycled the ball to Brendan Coleman who was able to take his score from 25 yards. 
After 46 minutes of the half, Tones extended their lead further, when after good hassling from Gerard Kavanagh, John Toal was fouled and Emmet Haughian kicked over the resulting free from the left hand side of the pitch. 
Silverbridge then added a further two points from a 14 yard free and from their no.14 after 53 and 55 minutes respectively. 
As the clock continued to tick down, the Tones tried to keep possession as much as they could.  After exchanges of passes between Conor Coleman and Johnny McCarron, Ryan McQuillan was able to find Emmet Haughian who kicked his third of the day in the 59 minute. 
In the last minute of the game the Silverbridge no.7 was able to kick his 3rd fine score of the half again from around 35 yards.  John Toal was able to have the last say, when he was found by Conor Coleman he was able to shrug his man aside and kick a score from 25 yards. 
The Tones can be pleased with their evenings work.  Kieran Murray made a fine save in the second half and his kickouts were immaculate as ever.  The full back line of Michael Carson, Ryan McQuillan and Chris McCarron was very assured.  Niall Geoghegan got through a mountain of work in the half back line.  Conor Coleman made some great catches in the midfield and was involved in alot of scores, as well as getting one himself.  The half forward line contributed 6 points, with Declan Lavery inparticular very industrious.  The full forward line also contributed scores and linked well with the supporting half forward line. 
Silverbridge competed very well in the second half and took some fine long range points, but where unable to repair the damage from the first half. 
Wolfe Tones: Kieran Murray, Michael Carson, Ryan McQuillan, Chris McCarron, Niall Geoghegan(0-01), Finnian Moriarty, Connor McCarron, James Lavery(0-01), Conor Coleman(0-01), Declan Lavery(0-03), Chris McAlinden(0-02), Brendan Coleman(0-01), John Toal(0-02), Gerard Kavanagh(0-01), Emmet Haughian(0-03,1f) Subs: Johnny McCarron for Gerard Kavanagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 15, 2009, 01:06:14 AM
poor result for us  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 15, 2009, 01:17:01 AM
Charlie noone reads those essays!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 15, 2009, 01:18:45 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 15, 2009, 01:17:01 AM
Charlie noone reads those essays!!
I do
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 15, 2009, 09:56:38 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 15, 2009, 01:17:01 AM
Charlie noone reads those essays!!

ok moderator ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on August 15, 2009, 11:06:03 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2009, 12:44:23 AM
The censorship policy on orchardcounty is a complete joke  >:(

I made a light-hearted comment about how the ref allegedly playing for a draw tongiht might have been revenge for Killeavy not naming their subs for the programme (County board criticised them in the programme for this). A Killeavy man then informed me that part of the reason for this may have been that their manager was involved in a tragic incident this week where 2 of his workmates were killed. I offered my condolences and suggested that, in the circumsatnces, the county board shouldn't have bothered with the snide comments in the programme.

Orchardcounty administrators then deleted the entire conversation, including my condolences on the deaths. Its a sad state of affairs when the fear of the county board has gotten so bad that things like this can't even be discussed.

That's what happens when one of the moderators is a county board employee!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 15, 2009, 12:07:59 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 15, 2009, 01:18:45 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 15, 2009, 01:17:01 AM
Charlie noone reads those essays!!
I do


Sorry Charlie I meant only dickheads read those essays.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 15, 2009, 02:15:33 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 15, 2009, 12:07:59 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 15, 2009, 01:18:45 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 15, 2009, 01:17:01 AM
Charlie noone reads those essays!!
I do


Sorry Charlie I meant only d**kheads read those essays.

Correct ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 15, 2009, 02:38:08 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 15, 2009, 12:07:59 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 15, 2009, 01:18:45 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 15, 2009, 01:17:01 AM
Charlie noone reads those essays!!
I do


Sorry Charlie I meant only d**kheads read those essays.

Excellent, I suppose that passes for wit in Lurgan?   :D   ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: up tyrone on August 15, 2009, 03:09:45 PM
Did holmes play for the harps last nite?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on August 15, 2009, 03:12:06 PM
intermediate championship.
Cullaville are clear favourites but im putting money on keady.

Keady have too many good players. Conor nugent in midfield will dominant any aerial battle and also has two good feet and a terrific fotballing brain could be moved to centre half forward to dictate the game.

Barry hughes and mark hughes although old they have still got bags of pace and are deadily accurate.

Ronan toal and geard toal can make an impact from the bench in any game,Ronan in particular coming  back from injury it's as if he is now "transformed"

Paul McCormak the former county player has had his ups and downs but is still the most talented two footed player in this championship and like conor nugent also has the brain to influence games. without doubt could be playing county football.

Keady are the on the up and will be challenging the likes of Pearse O'gs and the Dromintee's of this world next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on August 15, 2009, 03:29:25 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 15, 2009, 01:18:45 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 15, 2009, 01:17:01 AM
Charlie noone reads those essays!!
I do

+ 1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on August 15, 2009, 04:03:26 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on August 15, 2009, 03:12:06 PM
intermediate championship.
Cullaville are clear favourites but im putting money on keady.

Keady have too many good players. Conor nugent in midfield will dominant any aerial battle and also has two good feet and a terrific fotballing brain could be moved to centre half forward to dictate the game.

Barry hughes and mark hughes although old they have still got bags of pace and are deadily accurate.

Ronan toal and geard toal can make an impact from the bench in any game,Ronan in particular coming  back from injury it's as if he is now "transformed"

Paul McCormak the former county player has had his ups and downs but is still the most talented two footed player in this championship and like conor nugent also has the brain to influence games. without doubt could be playing county football.

Keady are the on the up and will be challenging the likes of Pearse O'gs and the Dromintee's of this world next year.

are you serious?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on August 15, 2009, 04:17:38 PM
Quote from: up tyrone on August 15, 2009, 03:09:45 PM
Did holmes play for the harps last nite?

Collie did indeed play. Had a good game at centre half back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on August 15, 2009, 04:31:26 PM
sorry i meant geard enright. Keady will win.

Ryan McGale could score 1-10 on any man trying to mark him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 15, 2009, 04:47:07 PM
Don't worry charles I enjoy the essays...I see the ginger assassin is having a positive influence on his return!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 15, 2009, 05:34:33 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on August 15, 2009, 03:12:06 PM
intermediate championship.
Cullaville are clear favourites but im putting money on keady.

Keady have too many good players. Conor nugent in midfield will dominant any aerial battle and also has two good feet and a terrific fotballing brain could be moved to centre half forward to dictate the game.

Barry hughes and mark hughes although old they have still got bags of pace and are deadily accurate.

Ronan toal and geard toal can make an impact from the bench in any game,Ronan in particular coming  back from injury it's as if he is now "transformed"

Paul McCormak the former county player has had his ups and downs but is still the most talented two footed player in this championship and like conor nugent also has the brain to influence games. without doubt could be playing county football.

Keady are the on the up and will be challenging the likes of Pearse O'gs and the Dromintee's of this world next year.


Are Keady not in div 3?? Calm down child. Although the way Dromintee are going yous may well be challenging them soon alright but in division 2!  :P ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on August 15, 2009, 05:42:01 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on August 15, 2009, 03:12:06 PM
intermediate championship.
Cullaville are clear favourites but im putting money on keady.

Keady have too many good players. Conor nugent in midfield will dominant any aerial battle and also has two good feet and a terrific fotballing brain could be moved to centre half forward to dictate the game.

Barry hughes and mark hughes although old they have still got bags of pace and are deadily accurate.

Ronan toal and geard toal can make an impact from the bench in any game,Ronan in particular coming  back from injury it's as if he is now "transformed"

Paul McCormak the former county player has had his ups and downs but is still the most talented two footed player in this championship and like conor nugent also has the brain to influence games. without doubt could be playing county football.

Keady are the on the up and will be challenging the likes of Pearse O'gs and the Dromintee's of this world next year.
:D  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on August 15, 2009, 05:59:22 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on August 15, 2009, 04:31:26 PM
sorry i meant geard enright. Keady will win.

Ryan McGale could score 1-10 on any man trying to mark him

You definitely are nuts Nutsy!! How many games has the lad scored 1-10 in this year? Or did you actually mean he COULD score that but just COULDN'T be bothed yet? You obviously have the pre-championship buzz and are getting over excited. I remember talk like this from when I was a kid at school with Keady people saying their gonna do this and that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 15, 2009, 06:29:36 PM
Good reports as always from charlie stubbs. Keep up the good work and you might be in for a career change  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PatDaly on August 15, 2009, 07:25:53 PM
Dromintee winning 1-3 to 0-5 just coming up to half-time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PatDaly on August 15, 2009, 07:42:47 PM
Granemore beating Dromintee 0-8 to 1-4 at half-time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on August 15, 2009, 08:24:13 PM
any result yet, have granemore in my accumalator
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PatDaly on August 15, 2009, 08:35:25 PM
Full-time Granemore beat Dromintee by 0-14 to 1-9. Disappointing to say the least
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on August 15, 2009, 08:45:03 PM
Was up at the match, better team won, Granemore forwards particularly O'Neill, Rafferty and O'Connor were very sharp. Kieran Toner came good in the last quarter and caught a few balls. Dromintee are a pale shadow of the team that pushed Cross hard for a number of years. I hear Cross bt Tir naOg 3.16 to 6 pts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 15, 2009, 09:03:06 PM
Quote from: mackers on August 15, 2009, 08:45:03 PM
Was up at the match, better team won, Granemore forwards particularly O'Neill, Rafferty and O'Connor were very sharp. Kieran Toner came good in the last quarter and caught a few balls. Dromintee are a pale shadow of the team that pushed Cross hard for a number of years. I hear Cross bt Tir naOg 3.16 to 6 pts.

congratulations to granemore on a desreved victory .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2009, 09:07:25 PM
Very surprised by that result (Granemore wnning, not Cross  :) ). Indifferent league form aside you'd still have expected Dromintee to have had a bit too much for a second division outfit.

By the way, who is it that has the bye to the quarter finals?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on August 15, 2009, 09:38:43 PM
Cross over Tir NaOg by about 22 points. No contest

Spotted Enda Muldoon at the game. He must be thinking ahead.

Also spotted Paul Carville. How come he didn't line out for Tir NaOg?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bigfrank on August 15, 2009, 09:44:53 PM
Was gareth o neill playin for dromintee,heard he in new york playin ball for the summer??? Also cross still have johnny murtagh to return from the states to help thm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2009, 09:47:14 PM
Quote from: bigfrank on August 15, 2009, 09:44:53 PM
Was gareth o neill playin for dromintee,heard he in new york playin ball for the summer??? Also cross still have johnny murtagh to return from the states to help thm

Yep Gareth's in New York for the Summer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 15, 2009, 10:19:42 PM
When is the draw for the next round? Good win for Granemore tonight, though cross won't have learnt much after that facile victory, did both McEntees play?
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2009, 09:07:25 PM
By the way, who is it that has the bye to the quarter finals?
Clann Eireann. They're shite anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 16, 2009, 10:25:00 AM
Draw is tonight after Ogs v Cruppen game.

Went to Granemore game myself, defintely the better side and could have won by more,  Dromintee look like a broken side, but missing G O'Neil and Miceal O'Rourke hardly helped.

Congrats to the Harps, first game I missed all year, think it could have been my fault all year not Nudie's. Top scud.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on August 16, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 15, 2009, 10:19:42 PM
did both McEntees play?

No - just Tony played.

Cross had missing John McEntee, Francie Bellew, Brendan McKeown, David McKenna, Stephen Kernan and Johnny Murtagh

Two goals were scored by Aaron Cunningham and Jamie Clarke got the other one.

Frannie Hanratty played well in midfield and played a delightful pass to set up Clarke for his goal.

Fish caught some great balls in the 2nd half
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 16, 2009, 12:56:56 PM
s kernan wouldnt make the team and murtaghs in america we could all name players missing like that. tir na nog shite and carville playing soccer earlier that day. sending off after 15 mins harsh and only allowed cross to roll on the scores thankfully. had them backed at evens minus 15 pts. well done granemore 5/2 i had. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on August 16, 2009, 02:31:46 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 15, 2009, 05:34:33 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on August 15, 2009, 03:12:06 PM
intermediate championship.
Cullaville are clear favourites but im putting money on keady.

Keady have too many good players. Conor nugent in midfield will dominant any aerial battle and also has two good feet and a terrific fotballing brain could be moved to centre half forward to dictate the game.

Barry hughes and mark hughes although old they have still got bags of pace and are deadily accurate.

Ronan toal and geard toal can make an impact from the bench in any game,Ronan in particular coming  back from injury it's as if he is now "transformed"

Paul McCormak the former county player has had his ups and downs but is still the most talented two footed player in this championship and like conor nugent also has the brain to influence games. without doubt could be playing county football.

Keady are the on the up and will be challenging the likes of Pearse O'gs and the Dromintee's of this world next year.


Are Keady not in div 3?? Calm down child. Although the way Dromintee are going yous may well be challenging them soon alright but in division 2!  :P ;D ;D


Keady are in division 3 but i was talking about the competitive championship (intermediate) not the chumpionship (senior). When keady win the championship they will be challenging the likes of pearse og and drumintee thats if dromintee are demoted to the junior after last nights incident.

Connor nugent would of had a field on aidan ourke last night. Ryan mcgale would have destroyed barry shannon.

Keady are the new force
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on August 16, 2009, 02:49:14 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 16, 2009, 12:56:56 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 16, 2009, 12:56:56 PM
s kernan wouldnt make the team and murtaghs in america we could all name players missing like that. tir na nog shite and carville playing soccer earlier that day. sending off after 15 mins harsh and only allowed cross to roll on the scores thankfully. had them backed at evens minus 15 pts. well done granemore 5/2 i had. ;D




Just stating the available players to come back

Re the sending off - If you kick someone in the 1st minute or last minute - a red card should follow
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on August 16, 2009, 03:48:14 PM
An Portmor 2-6  Keady 1-9

Who won between Tullysaren v annaghmore + Collegeland v St Pauls?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 16, 2009, 03:50:40 PM
Who won between Whitecross and Maghery in senior championship.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on August 16, 2009, 03:51:30 PM
Whitecross by 5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on August 16, 2009, 04:14:03 PM
whitecross won by 5 or 6. whitecross took their scores very well and i was impressed with them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on August 16, 2009, 06:55:39 PM
ARMAGH SENIOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP QUARTER-FINALS

Granemore v Killeavy/St Patrick's
Clan na Gael v Armagh Harps
Clann Eireann v Whitecross
Pearse Og/Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen

Courtesy of centre-half on www.orchardcounty.com

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on August 16, 2009, 07:05:57 PM
All great ties there, lot to look forward to , when are these matches to be played? Cross vs Ogs (probably) and Harps vs Clanns are two clinking games!!! Strong case for a double header in the Athletic Grounds..........
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on August 16, 2009, 07:06:48 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on August 16, 2009, 06:55:39 PM
ARMAGH SENIOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP QUARTER-FINALS

Granemore v Killeavy/St Patrick's
Clan na Gael v Armagh Harps
Clann Eireann v Whitecross
Pearse Og/Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen

Courtesy of centre-half on www.orchardcounty.com



Double header in the Athletic Grounds?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on August 16, 2009, 07:08:00 PM
2 great minds Mackers...   You probably have them both.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 16, 2009, 07:22:30 PM
Quote from: mackers on August 16, 2009, 07:05:57 PM
All great ties there, lot to look forward to , when are these matches to be played? Cross vs Ogs (probably) and Harps vs Clanns are two clinking games!!! Strong case for a double header in the Athletic Grounds..........
Correct. 5th/6th Sept is what I think we were told!Could be wrong though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on August 16, 2009, 08:23:20 PM
Ogs won easy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on August 16, 2009, 09:30:59 PM

Final Score Ogs 1-14 Cruppen 0-10

Cruppen started well and went 3 points in front but the Ogs came back and never looked back from there.  1-08 to 0-4 at half time

Good result.  Looking forward to Cross on the next round already
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on August 16, 2009, 11:03:09 PM



Frannie Hanratty played well in midfield and played a delightful pass to set up Clarke for his goal.


[/quote]

Is this the same boy that was playing earlier in the Junior championship? Does this now mean he cant play any further part in the junior championship? Theres a few defenders in the junior that will sleep a bit better now!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 17, 2009, 12:41:00 AM
Quote from: border rabbit on August 16, 2009, 11:03:09 PM



Frannie Hanratty played well in midfield and played a delightful pass to set up Clarke for his goal.



Is this the same boy that was playing earlier in the Junior championship? Does this now mean he cant play any further part in the junior championship? Theres a few defenders in the junior that will sleep a bit better now!
[/quote]

Yeah he'd be ineligible for the Junior championship now until 2011.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 17, 2009, 08:34:00 AM
Went to the clans v mullaghbawn match yesterday evening. Really enjoyed the match but thought at times it lacked championship intensity but anyway...

It sort of panned out as I expected. Clans had most of the ball but struggled to put a lot of scores on the board as mullaghbawn played about 12 in defence. In truth it looked like the clans were going to win comfortably, opening up a five point lead in the second half. Marty lavery won every ball that came his way and drew the clans about six simple frees. How his marker wasn't booked in the first 30 mins I don't know.

Credit to mullaghbawn though and they drew level with about 10mins left and missed a simple free to go in front. The clans then converted twice and held on to win.

Some handbags towards the end but nothing major.

Will look forward to the harps now but I'd hope we will improve for that one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on August 17, 2009, 11:12:09 AM
Any dates/venues for the next round? Need them ASAP...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on August 17, 2009, 11:20:52 AM
It is a pity that Tir Na Nog's best players (Mc Allister, Carville, Scullion etc) are lost to soccer. The two games against Clan Na Gael a couple of years ago shows the potential in the club, but its sad to see the 2004 U21 win hasn't produced more
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on August 17, 2009, 12:27:13 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2009, 12:44:23 AM
The censorship policy on orchardcounty is a complete joke  >:(

I made a light-hearted comment about how the ref allegedly playing for a draw tongiht might have been revenge for Killeavy not naming their subs for the programme (County board criticised them in the programme for this). A Killeavy man then informed me that part of the reason for this may have been that their manager was involved in a tragic incident this week where 2 of his workmates were killed. I offered my condolences and suggested that, in the circumsatnces, the county board shouldn't have bothered with the snide comments in the programme.

Orchardcounty administrators then deleted the entire conversation, including my condolences on the deaths. Its a sad state of affairs when the fear of the county board has gotten so bad that things like this can't even be discussed.

No more word on this from the County Board?  I wonder will Killeavy bring it up at the next county board meeting?  A low blow
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 17, 2009, 12:36:57 PM
Quote from: Joxer on August 17, 2009, 12:27:13 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2009, 12:44:23 AM
The censorship policy on orchardcounty is a complete joke  >:(

I made a light-hearted comment about how the ref allegedly playing for a draw tongiht might have been revenge for Killeavy not naming their subs for the programme (County board criticised them in the programme for this). A Killeavy man then informed me that part of the reason for this may have been that their manager was involved in a tragic incident this week where 2 of his workmates were killed. I offered my condolences and suggested that, in the circumsatnces, the county board shouldn't have bothered with the snide comments in the programme.

Orchardcounty administrators then deleted the entire conversation, including my condolences on the deaths. Its a sad state of affairs when the fear of the county board has gotten so bad that things like this can't even be discussed.

No more word on this from the County Board?  I wonder will Killeavy bring it up at the next county board meeting?  A low blow

To be fair I wouldn't say the county board did it out of malice but it just shows a lack of communication. All it would have taken would be 2 phone calls;

Monday morning

Armagh CB Full-time paid administator: "Lads any chance of sending us the team list and subs for the match on Friday?"
Killeavy Rep: "No bother - will get onto that. Must give the manager a ring."

Thursday morning

Armagh CB Full-time paid administator: "No sign of that list of subs yet?"
Killeavy Rep: "Jaysus sorry, been an awful tragedy with the manager, subs are the last thing on his mind. Apologies but not much I can do."
Armagh CB Full-time paid administator: "No bother. That's understandable."


Perfectly simple to deal with. Although another way of looking at it is that you'd think anybody within the club at all would have been able to take a fair stab at the list of subs without the manager's input. Like I could have named who the most of Cullyhanna's subs were going to be on Friday night.

Its not a big issue at the end of the day but it was just the deleting of perfectly innocous posts which annoyed me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 17, 2009, 12:41:04 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 17, 2009, 08:34:00 AM
Went to the clans v mullaghbawn match yesterday evening. Really enjoyed the match but thought at times it lacked championship intensity but anyway...

It sort of panned out as I expected. Clans had most of the ball but struggled to put a lot of scores on the board as mullaghbawn played about 12 in defence. In truth it looked like the clans were going to win comfortably, opening up a five point lead in the second half. Marty lavery won every ball that came his way and drew the clans about six simple frees. How his marker wasn't booked in the first 30 mins I don't know.

Credit to mullaghbawn though and they drew level with about 10mins left and missed a simple free to go in front. The clans then converted twice and held on to win.

Some handbags towards the end but nothing major.

Will look forward to the harps now but I'd hope we will improve for that one.

fitzroyalty was delighted by the win last night!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 17, 2009, 01:14:04 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 17, 2009, 12:41:04 PM
[fitzroyalty was delighted by the win last night!
So were you! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 17, 2009, 02:51:10 PM
So was i  :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on August 17, 2009, 05:28:22 PM
dates and venues to be decided tonight for quarter finals apparently. ogs - cross harps - clanns double header in the atletic grounds. granemore - clann eireann pearse og park and killeavy/st.pats - whitecross in cruppen or silverbridge?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 17, 2009, 05:44:13 PM
Quote from: ardmhachaabu08 on August 13, 2009, 08:31:42 PM
Mullaghbawn are the bet of the weekend imo. Heard from a few Clans fellas they re gonna back them and then throw the match.


I love these posts. Remember me never to take advice from you saan


On another topic, Does anyone know the reason why substitutes ar not allowed on the field of play now at half time. This sounds like another great rule implemented by the county board or perhaps a way of getting more money of clubs.

Oh and if our quarter final is at the Athletics grounds maybe the score board operator will work out the correct spelling of Clan Na Gael and no have it up as Clan Na Gale ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 17, 2009, 05:49:39 PM
On the actual game itself. Overall it was a dead enough game but the better team won on the day. I was unhappy with the umpires and linesmen. These guys are meant to be neutral aswell as the eyes and ear of the ref if he misses incidents. Now our corner forward was repeatedly thumped and punched all throughout the game and not one of them brought this to the attention of the ref. So what is the point in having these clowns if they are only going to raise an arm to signal a point.


Playing the harps now in th next round should be a tough enough prospect we usually struggle against the harps but at least we are there to give it a go. I hear the harps will have a few lads returning from America ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 17, 2009, 06:42:21 PM
We've been missing those 3 all year (all 3 started last year's champo) which didn't help us in the league, not sure what the situation is tbh as all 3 have been playing in the states, could depend when the game is (60 day temp transfers).  They would certainly give us more options.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on August 17, 2009, 07:03:00 PM
Quote from: pearseog on August 17, 2009, 05:28:22 PM
dates and venues to be decided tonight for quarter finals apparently. ogs - cross harps - clanns double header in the atletic grounds. granemore - clann eireann pearse og park and killeavy/st.pats - whitecross in cruppen or silverbridge?
You're getting yourself mixed up there, winners of Cullyhanna and Killeavy play Granemore with Clann Eireann playing Whitecross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lothos on August 17, 2009, 08:54:29 PM
From Orchardcounty

ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SATURDAY 22 AUGUST 2009

Wednesday 19 August
ACL – Div. II (7.15)
Wolfe Tone v Tir na nÓg (Ger Devlin)
ACL – Div. III (7.15)
Lissummon v Middletown (Oliver Hearty)

Friday 21 August
Senior Football Championship Replay (7.30) – Extra time, if required
Killeavy v St Patrick's (Kevin McNeice) at Athletic Grounds
ACL – Div. I (7.15)
Culloville v Mullaghbawn (Jimmy McKee)
ACL – Div. III (7.00)
Middletown v Collegeland (Eamon Nugent)

Saturday 22 August
Junior Football Championship (6.00)
Belleek v Corrinshego (Paul Boylan) at Carrickcruppen
ACL – Div. II (6.00)
Whitecross v Wolfe Tone (Seamus O'Neill)
Silverbridge v Ballymacnab (Barney Henry)
Maghery v Granemore (Paudie Hughes)
Harps v Madden (Jim Lynch)
Ballyhegan v Tir na nÓg (Rory Robinson)
ACL – Div. III (6.00)
Clonmore v An Port Mor (Kevin Murtagh)
St Peter's v Lissummon (Ronan Quigley)
ACL – Div. IV (6.00)
O'Hanlon's v Phelim Brady's (Jim Burns)
Killean v Crossmaglen II (Ger Devlin)
Forkhill v Derrynoose (Dessie McDonnell)
Dorsey Emmett's v Eire Og (Joe Murtagh)
Clady v Mullaghbrack (Mickey Leonard)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on August 17, 2009, 09:00:57 PM
Quote from: mackers on August 17, 2009, 07:03:00 PM
Quote from: pearseog on August 17, 2009, 05:28:22 PM
dates and venues to be decided tonight for quarter finals apparently. ogs - cross harps - clanns double header in the atletic grounds. granemore - clann eireann pearse og park and killeavy/st.pats - whitecross in cruppen or silverbridge?
You're getting yourself mixed up there, winners of Cullyhanna and Killeavy play Granemore with Clann Eireann playing Whitecross.

my mistake :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 17, 2009, 09:31:25 PM
when will the final round of div 1 league fixtures be played? anyone got up to date league tables.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 17, 2009, 09:40:31 PM
ARMAGH ACL TABLES AS AT SUNDAY 16 AUGUST 2009

Div. I
          P   W   D    L   Pts
Crossmaglen      17   17   0     0   34 (Winners)
Pearse Og      17     9   2     6   20 (Runners-Up)
Carrickcruppen   17     7   3     7   17
Dromintee      17     8   0     9   16
St Patrick's      16     7   1     8   15
Sarsfields      17     7   1     9   15
Clan na Gael      16     6   2     8   14
Mullaghbawn      16     5   2     9   12
Killeavy      17     5   2   10   12
Culloville      16     5   1   10   11

Div. II
          P   W   D    L   Pts
Maghery      16   14   1     1   29
Whitecross      15   13   0     2   26
Granemore      15   12   0     3   24
Ballymacnab      15     8   3     4   19
Madden      16     7   2     7   16
Clann Eireann      17     7   2     8   16
Tir na nÓg      15     7   1     7   15
Harps         16     6   3     7   15
Wolfe Tone      15     2   4     9     8
Silverbridge      15     2   3   10     7
Ballyhegan      16     3   1   12     7
St Michael's      15     1   2   12     4

Div. III
          P   W   D    L   Pts
Keady         15   12   1     2   25
St Peter's      15   10   2     3   22
Middletown      14     9   0     5   18
St Paul's      17     9   0     8   18
Belleek      16     7   2     7   16
Clonmore      16     7   2     7   16
Tullysaran      16     7   2     7   16
Shane O'Neill's   15     7   1     7   15
Collegeland      16     6   1     9   13
Annaghmore      16     5   1   10   11
An Port Mor      16     4   2   10   10
Lissummon      14     2   2   10     6
   
Div. IV
          P   W   D    L   Pts
Forkhill      16   14   0     2   28
Eire Og      16   13   1     2   27
Crossmaglen II   15   12   0     3   24
Grange         16     9   3     4   21
Dorsey Emmett's   16   10   0     6   20
Corrinshego      14     9   0     5   18
Derrynoose      15     6   4     5   16
Clady         16     5   4     7   14
O'Hanlon's      16     2   3   11     7
Mullaghbrack      15     3   0   12     6
Phelim Brady's   16     1   1   14     3
Killean         15     1   0   14     2

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on August 17, 2009, 11:14:34 PM
Has anybody watched the video on the Armagh website of the draw being made. Only on the wind up but did you notice that Paddy Og didn't need to say the number but just say Crossmaglen  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 18, 2009, 01:09:12 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 17, 2009, 06:42:21 PM
We've been missing those 3 all year (all 3 started last year's champo) which didn't help us in the league, not sure what the situation is tbh as all 3 have been playing in the states, could depend when the game is (60 day temp transfers).  They would certainly give us more options.

Someone mentioned the first weekend in September for the next round. Since the lads in the States couldn't register after July 1st (I think), their 60 days should be up at the end of August making them eligible. Now you just need to work out who is going to tell 3 lads that they're aren't starting against Clans!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 18, 2009, 09:08:52 AM
Charlie where's your reports!!!! I missed the Sunday game... so was relying on your report!

Was surprised Ballyhegan beat Tones, after a poor performance v Madden on the Friday night!

It's still 2 from 4!  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on August 18, 2009, 09:51:32 AM
Why is the Killeavy Cullyhanna game in the Athletic Grounds on Friday night when they played it in Carrickcruppen last week?  Something on in Cruppen?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on August 18, 2009, 10:15:06 AM
SFC Quarter Final Dates and Venues


Crossmaglen v Pearse Og - 5th September - Athletic Grounds - 7pm

Granemore v Killeavy/St Patricks Cullyhanna - 6th Spetember - Athletic Grounds - 7pm

Clan na Gael v Armagh Harps - 12th September - Athletic Grounds - 7pm

Clann Eireann v Whitecross - 13th September - Pearse Og Park - 5pm

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 18, 2009, 11:21:56 AM
Not really bringing the game to the people with all four games in armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2009, 11:33:50 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 18, 2009, 11:21:56 AM
Not really bringing the game to the people with all four games in armagh

Also you'd hardly call them neutral venues for the games involving the Og's and Harps.  Surely there should be some level of fairness to teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 18, 2009, 11:45:45 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2009, 11:33:50 AM
Also you'd hardly call them neutral venues for the games involving the Og's and Harps.  Surely there should be some level of fairness to teams.

Cross have used the Athletic grounds more times recently than either the Ogs or the Harps so I don't think they'll be too bothered where the game is. Where would u like to see the games played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 18, 2009, 11:53:18 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2009, 11:33:50 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 18, 2009, 11:21:56 AM
Not really bringing the game to the people with all four games in armagh

Also you'd hardly call them neutral venues for the games involving the Og's and Harps.  Surely there should be some level of fairness to teams.

Could be worse. Could be an important match like a final. And then instead of having the match within a mile or 2 of their ground and supporters, Ógs or Harps could have it actually at their own ground.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on August 18, 2009, 12:21:55 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2009, 11:33:50 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 18, 2009, 11:21:56 AM
Not really bringing the game to the people with all four games in armagh

Also you'd hardly call them neutral venues for the games involving the Og's and Harps.  Surely there should be some level of fairness to teams.

BC1 are you serious? How many matches not to mention FINALS have been played in XMG this past number of years?? Come on now...  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2009, 01:04:10 PM
3 caught isn't too bad :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 18, 2009, 02:02:47 PM
I knew you were at your work there BC and could just see them lads typing furiously with the replies :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on August 18, 2009, 03:54:16 PM
whats the point of developing the athletic grounds if we are'nt going to bloody use it. WHat do you want? to return to the ridiclous situation of cross playing the county final on their own pitch?

Armagh is central for everyone, so i think its fair. Ogs & Harps have their own pitches, so I don't see what the issue is???? No pleasing people
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Dannymcfella on August 18, 2009, 03:56:58 PM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on August 18, 2009, 03:54:16 PM
whats the point of developing the athletic grounds if we are'nt going to bloody use it. WHat do you want? to return to the ridiclous situation of cross playing the county final on their own pitch?

Armagh is central for everyone, so i think its fair. Ogs & Harps have their own pitches, so I don't see what the issue is???? No pleasing people

And even still....................................... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 18, 2009, 04:16:46 PM
I dont mind all championship games being at athletic grounds as its neutral but I would like to see the pitch improved as its a disgrace and the changing facilities are a shambles too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 18, 2009, 04:36:12 PM
The changing facilities are really bad especially if there is a double header on. Most teams now arrive around an hour before their game they get a quick change and out for  20 warm up. If there is a match on before your game then it is impossible to get changed as the other two teams are still in the changing room. I think it is an issue that needs sorted. The surface of the pitch is really bad also i am consistantly watching other counties develop top class facilities and all we get in Armagh is shite like that. The Cross and the Ogs pitches are far better playing surfaces the count board would really need to get their act together it is laughable. The no subs allowed on the pitch at half time is also a joke. What would happen if one of these lads were needed to come on where could he warm up?????? really sometimes i think primary school children could make better decisions. But the really laughable thing was that the players werent allowed to go on the pitch at HT but there were kids from the crowd shooting into the nets. Only in Armagh. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on August 18, 2009, 04:45:49 PM
have you seen callenbridge recently, its embarassing. WHen you think of what tyrone are building up the road it makes you wonder what chance we have of competing in the future
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 18, 2009, 04:54:13 PM
Yes berf i seen it on sunday lad and it too is a disgrace it is as if everyone in Armagh have given up on all aspects of football and aspects of winning anything for the future. It is as if they have developed an attitude that they have won an all Ieland so they can now just return to the bad old days. I guess this is the difference in winning mentalities Tyrone and Losers Armagh.  If they don't have the facilties then they are not going to attract the players for the future.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on August 18, 2009, 04:56:38 PM
unbelievable! cross people yapping about the venue of the pitch.
even though cross have played there 3 times since it reopened and ogs only twice.
how many county titles did you win on your own pitch?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on August 18, 2009, 06:07:41 PM
the cross subs were having a kick about at ht so they must have their own set of rules!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on August 18, 2009, 06:08:58 PM
QuoteBut the really laughable thing was that the players werent allowed to go on the pitch at HT but there were kids from the crowd shooting into the nets. Only in Armagh.

You do see these kid invasions elsewhere, which is surprising. Better to allow the subs in.

Quotehow many county titles did you win on your own pitch?

More than Pearse Ógs won, despite the number of finals played on their own pitch.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 18, 2009, 06:33:57 PM
Pearse Ogs have played 1 final on their own pitch since cross went on their unbeaten championship run, 1999

Quote from: armaghniac on August 18, 2009, 06:08:58 PM
More than Pearse Ógs won, despite the number of finals played on their own pitch.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2009, 06:44:13 PM
It keeps getting better!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 18, 2009, 06:44:45 PM
I hope you're throwing them back in bc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2009, 06:51:40 PM
I just fried the chips and got the tartare sauce ;D

Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 18, 2009, 06:44:45 PM
I hope you're throwing them back in bc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 18, 2009, 07:17:19 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2009, 06:44:13 PM
It keeps getting better!!!

:D you're right.  I was just replying to armaghniac though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2009, 07:25:30 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 18, 2009, 07:17:19 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2009, 06:44:13 PM
It keeps getting better!!!

:D you're right.  I was just replying to armaghniac though

Yeah right! 

Sure you all know anyway that the rules are made to suit Cross.  If we wanted we could have had all the games played in Cross with Paudie Hughes refereeing them all and Ogs would have to play with 13 men and we would demand a 5 point start just for the hell of it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on August 18, 2009, 07:27:55 PM
QuotePearse Ogs have played 1 final on their own pitch since cross went on their unbeaten championship run, 1999

So it is true then, football started in Armagh in 1999! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 18, 2009, 07:33:02 PM
1992    Pearse Og 0-13    Sarsfields 0-3

1988    Pearse Og 1-10    Killeavy 0-5

1986    Crossmaglen Rangers 3-8    Pearse Og 0-11

1985    Pearse Og 0-7    Armagh Harps 0-3

So add that to '99 and that's 3 wins out of 5

so you're right Armaghniac, cross have still won more on their own pitch
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2009, 07:42:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 18, 2009, 07:27:55 PM
QuotePearse Ogs have played 1 final on their own pitch since cross went on their unbeaten championship run, 1999

So it is true then, football started in Armagh in 1999! 

No, football started in 1996.  I thought it was the 1998 Final was in Armagh and the 1999 final in Cross.

Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 18, 2009, 07:33:02 PM
1992    Pearse Og 0-13    Sarsfields 0-3

1988    Pearse Og 1-10    Killeavy 0-5

1986    Crossmaglen Rangers 3-8    Pearse Og 0-11

1985    Pearse Og 0-7    Armagh Harps 0-3

So add that to '99 and that's 3 wins out of 5

so you're right Armaghniac, cross have still won more on their own pitch

Also, the 1986 Final was in Keady, so it is actually 3 from 4!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 18, 2009, 07:52:13 PM
The '99 final was in the Athletic Grounds

The 2000 final was in Cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 18, 2009, 11:09:51 PM
the 86 final was in keady  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 18, 2009, 11:23:49 PM
Whilst playing county finals at a home venue of one of the finalists is never and should never occur in this modern age. It is fair to say that Cross would have won the matches wherever they were played.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2009, 11:27:28 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2009, 07:42:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on August 18, 2009, 07:27:55 PM
QuotePearse Ogs have played 1 final on their own pitch since cross went on their unbeaten championship run, 1999

So it is true then, football started in Armagh in 1999! 

No, football started in 1996.  I thought it was the 1998 Final was in Armagh and the 1999 final in Cross.

Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 18, 2009, 07:33:02 PM
1992    Pearse Og 0-13    Sarsfields 0-3

1988    Pearse Og 1-10    Killeavy 0-5

1986    Crossmaglen Rangers 3-8    Pearse Og 0-11

1985    Pearse Og 0-7    Armagh Harps 0-3

So add that to '99 and that's 3 wins out of 5

so you're right Armaghniac, cross have still won more on their own pitch

Also, the 1986 Final was in Keady, so it is actually 3 from 4!

Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 18, 2009, 11:09:51 PM
the 86 final was in keady  ;)

Echo!!! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 19, 2009, 08:56:09 AM
BC1 sure you know i dont read any of your posts  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 19, 2009, 12:09:59 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 18, 2009, 11:23:49 PM
Whilst playing county finals at a home venue of one of the finalists is never and should never occur in this modern age. It is fair to say that Cross would have won the matches wherever they were played.

Almost certainly. But that's not the point.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on August 19, 2009, 02:31:29 PM
no one denied the fact they would have won them. the argument came about when bcb complained about the neutrality of the venues.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 19, 2009, 02:50:28 PM
Quote from: pearseog on August 19, 2009, 02:31:29 PM
no one denied the fact they would have won them. the argument came about when bcb complained about the neutrality of the venues.

You still don't see it do you :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on August 19, 2009, 03:08:04 PM
A typical day in Cork
(http://eatingamango.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/warm-milk.jpg?w=466&h=300)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Dannymcfella on August 19, 2009, 03:23:41 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 19, 2009, 02:50:28 PM
Quote from: pearseog on August 19, 2009, 02:31:29 PM
no one denied the fact they would have won them. the argument came about when bcb complained about the neutrality of the venues.

You still don't see it do you :P

Think someone needs to spell this out for the remedial class :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on August 19, 2009, 04:17:23 PM
Quotehave you seen callenbridge recently, its embarassing.

whats so shit about it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 19, 2009, 05:09:07 PM
The changing facilities are terrible, the showers take an eternity to warm up and then you can only use one side because the water flow clearly isn't strong enough to power both sides. The length and general condition of the grass on the pitch is brutal but apart from that it is a top class county facilities for a county with All Ireland aspirations ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on August 19, 2009, 09:14:03 PM
http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Clan-na-Gael-v-Mullaghbawn-Match-Report.aspx

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Maghery-v-Whitecross.aspx

Match report and reaction to follow from Pearse Og v Carrickcruppin
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 19, 2009, 09:36:13 PM
Where are all the dromintee posters this week. I thought we would hear some comments about their game from them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 19, 2009, 09:41:19 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 19, 2009, 09:36:13 PM
Where are all the dromintee posters this week. I thought we would hear some comments about their game from them.

The badness is hanging out of you  ;) ;) ;) crossfire  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 19, 2009, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 19, 2009, 09:36:13 PM
Where are all the dromintee posters this week. I thought we would hear some comments about their game from them.
SG and Corn were banned last week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 19, 2009, 09:56:31 PM
wolfe tones 0-17 tirnanog 0-05 big win for us.3 away from the drop now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 19, 2009, 09:58:52 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 19, 2009, 09:56:31 PM
wolfe tones 0-17 tirnanog 0-05 big win for us.3 away from the drop now
Ah f**k!

Big win for yous alright.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on August 19, 2009, 10:50:55 PM
http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Pearse-Og-v-Carrickcruppen-Report---Reaction.aspx

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Clan-na-Gael-v-Mullaghbawn-Match-Report.aspx

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Maghery-v-Whitecross.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on August 19, 2009, 11:28:07 PM
anyone know when senior cty final date is?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 20, 2009, 08:02:34 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 19, 2009, 09:56:31 PM
wolfe tones 0-17 tirnanog 0-05 big win for us.3 away from the drop now

Holy sh!t!! - Ye can be sure they'll put up a better performance at the week end verus Ballyhegan!  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 20, 2009, 09:02:26 AM
Quote from: rootthemout on August 19, 2009, 11:28:07 PM
anyone know when senior cty final date is?

Saturday 5 September
SFC – Quarter-Finals
MFC – 2nd Round

Sunday 6 September
SFC – Quarter-Finals

Saturday 12 September
SFC – Quarter-Finals

Sunday 13 September
SFC – Quarter-Finals

Saturday 19 September
MFC – Quarter-Finals

Saturday 26 September
SFC – Semi-Finals

Sunday 27 September
SFC – Semi-Finals

Saturday 3 October
MFC – Semi-Finals

Sunday 18 October
SFC – FINAL
MFC – FINAL
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on August 20, 2009, 11:47:27 AM
cheers for that el c
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 20, 2009, 01:33:58 PM
predictions then:

Both City teams to fall in next round but only just.
Whitecross to beat Clann Eireann.
Granemore to come through against whoever.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on August 20, 2009, 03:56:10 PM
methinks not. Harps to progress
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on August 20, 2009, 04:53:36 PM
Does anyone have the odds for the ogs to beat cross and for the harps to beat clans?

Wouldnt mind doing a double on that.

hardly any point though as everyone has cross a shoe in to win not only the armagh championship but ulster as well. see it says in the irish news cross will miss ballinderry until the ulster final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 20, 2009, 05:01:22 PM
Quote from: davo on August 20, 2009, 04:53:36 PM
Does anyone have the odds for the ogs to beat cross and for the harps to beat clans?

Wouldnt mind doing a double on that.

hardly any point though as everyone has cross a shoe in to win not only the armagh championship but ulster as well. see it says in the irish news cross will miss ballinderry until the ulster final.

Davo you might as well get your money and throw it at the Cops ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 20, 2009, 07:03:55 PM
Ballinderry may noy even get o the county final didn't they struggle to qualify and only secured it on the last day.Cross will be hard to beat but if anyone is going to beat them in Armagh it will be the ogs.

Clans and the Harps should be a tight game if the clans can get more of a scoring threat and win the midfiled battle the game should be a tight game. On the other had if they don't the Harps will beat them by 5 or 6

Whitecross will beat Clann Eireann by 3 or 4 and Granemore will beat St Pats when they beat Killeavy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 20, 2009, 08:04:09 PM
For what its worth I think that...

Ogs have a good chance of upsetting the Cross feens. Only team to come close to them in the league, realistically the only team strong enough  to challenge them. If they can get over the inferiority mentality that seems to exist between Cross and everyone else in the county they could cause an upset.

Have a feeling Killeavy will edge past St Pat's but by the bare minimum. Killeavy are more attack-minded and maybe feel they should have closed out the first match. Also feel they will have too much for Granemore, not 100% convinced by their win over Dromintee.

Clann Eireann will struggle against Whitecross who should have little difficulty disposing of a team over-reliant on one player for scores. Hopefully C/Eireann do the right thing after and drop down to intermediate where they belong.

Clans v Harps should be good. The fact Harps are in Div2 will have no bearing on the result. Both teams will fancy themselves, though I feel Clans have plenty of room for improvement after the game on Sunday, whereas Harps won by 10 in their match v B'mcnab so they might not have learned much from it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 20, 2009, 10:11:54 PM
Maybe yous didnt hear me the first time???  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on August 21, 2009, 02:50:58 PM
anyone get odds for the championship games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on August 21, 2009, 02:51:22 PM
Would any of you "blues" men care for a wager?

I'd imagine Harps would be 5/4 and Clans 4/5  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 21, 2009, 03:31:59 PM
Quote from: Diet Coke on August 21, 2009, 02:51:22 PM
Would any of you "blues" men care for a wager?

I'd imagine Harps would be 5/4 and Clans 4/5  ;)

From what i hear they are two 1/1 shots...TBH and i'm not messin here i would put Harps as slight favourites (and don't give me that Div 1 v Div 2 crop) Harps would be 4/6 favourites if i was the bookie with Clans at 11/8 shots ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on August 21, 2009, 03:40:49 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 21, 2009, 03:31:59 PM
Quote from: Diet Coke on August 21, 2009, 02:51:22 PM
Would any of you "blues" men care for a wager?

I'd imagine Harps would be 5/4 and Clans 4/5  ;)

From what i hear they are two 1/1 shots...TBH and i'm not messin here i would put Harps as slight favourites (and don't give me that Div 1 v Div 2 crop) Harps would be 4/6 favourites if i was the bookie with Clans at 11/8 shots ;)

Jimmy Joe reckons the "blues" are good things! ;) Probably be an even money bet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 21, 2009, 03:47:47 PM
Quote from: Diet Coke on August 21, 2009, 03:40:49 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 21, 2009, 03:31:59 PM
Quote from: Diet Coke on August 21, 2009, 02:51:22 PM
Would any of you "blues" men care for a wager?

I'd imagine Harps would be 5/4 and Clans 4/5  ;)

From what i hear they are two 1/1 shots...TBH and i'm not messin here i would put Harps as slight favourites (and don't give me that Div 1 v Div 2 crop) Harps would be 4/6 favourites if i was the bookie with Clans at 11/8 shots ;)

Jimmy Joe reckons the "blues" are good things! ;) Probably be an even money bet.

aye but he's been living up in Armagh for too long ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on August 21, 2009, 06:14:30 PM
Quote from: Diet Coke on August 21, 2009, 03:40:49 PM
Jimmy Joe reckons the "blues" are good things! ;) Probably be an even money bet.

Harps to win by 4
Ogs to win by 2
Killeavey by 2 tonight - followed by a 3 point win over Granemore
Whitecross to win by 5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 21, 2009, 07:51:43 PM
The Ogs have to feel confident.  they are the only side that have psuhed us this year and, although I didn't see the games, they should have won one at least by all accounts.  Cross don't really know what their best combinations are this year and although they might work against lesser teams like Tir na nOg and Dromintee, it will not work against the Ogs.  I reckon they will nick it by 2-3 points.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 21, 2009, 09:33:36 PM
According to Orchardcounty St Pats hammered Killeavy in SFC and Cullaville beat M'bawn by a point in league!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on August 21, 2009, 09:42:25 PM
Div. I
          P   W   D    L   Pts
Crossmaglen      17   17   0     0   34 (Winners)
Pearse Og      17     9   2     6   20 (Runners-Up)
Carrickcruppen   17     7   3     7   17
Dromintee      17     8   0     9   16
St Patrick's      16     7   1     8   15
Sarsfields      17     7   1     9   15
Clan na Gael      16     6   2     8   14
Culloville      17     6   1   10   13
Mullaghbawn      17     5   2     10   12
Killeavy      17     5   2   10   12

Very interesting last games to be played
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2009, 09:44:33 PM
Culloville are away to the Ogs

Mullaghbawn have Dromintee I think.  who have Killeavey left to play?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 21, 2009, 09:48:53 PM
Killeavy play Sarsfields away.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2009, 09:55:12 PM
If Culloville beat the Ogs they will have had some come back from near certain relegation only 5 or 6 weeks ago. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 21, 2009, 10:05:44 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2009, 09:55:12 PM
If Culloville beat the Ogs they will have had some come back from near certain relegation only 5 or 6 weeks ago.
That'd be the type of them bastids!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on August 21, 2009, 10:15:25 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing Mullaghbawn go down, maybe in division 2 they'd play a bit more attacking football
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on August 21, 2009, 10:19:38 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 21, 2009, 10:05:44 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2009, 09:55:12 PM
If Culloville beat the Ogs they will have had some come back from near certain relegation only 5 or 6 weeks ago.
That'd be the type of them bastids!

Would expect Mullaghbawn to beat Dromintee whose season is already over.
Killeavy should beat Sarsfields whose season is over.
It all depends when Culloville play Pearse Ogs. If they play them next week, expect Ogs to win. If, however they play them the week after Ogs almost certain Championship exit to Cross then expect Culloville to win this game and send Killeavy and Mullaghbawn down. Thats assuming Clan na Gael pick up a point from their last 2 games which is by no means certain. Who have Clans left? I think its St Pats and someone else
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 21, 2009, 10:24:03 PM
Pat's and Cruppen who are both safe. We play one of the two next week I think, so Im assuming theres a full round of fixtures to try and sort this relegation business out pronto.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on August 21, 2009, 10:31:07 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 21, 2009, 10:24:03 PM
Pat's and Cruppen who are both safe. We play one of the two next week I think, so Im assuming theres a full round of fixtures to try and sort this relegation business out pronto.

Clans should be ok then cos they will more than likely beat Cruppen whose season is over. I honestly believe Culloville could now pull off the great escape. Would'nt be surprised to see them pull a fly one and get the Ogs game called off if it is down for next weekends fixture.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 21, 2009, 11:30:06 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on August 21, 2009, 06:14:30 PM
Quote from: Diet Coke on August 21, 2009, 03:40:49 PM
Jimmy Joe reckons the "blues" are good things! ;) Probably be an even money bet.

Harps to win by 4
Ogs to win by 2
Killeavey by 2 tonight - followed by a 3 point win over Granemore
Whitecross to win by 5
see on the OC killeavey were beaten by 18 pts . :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on August 21, 2009, 11:45:23 PM
Quote from: torres on August 21, 2009, 11:30:06 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on August 21, 2009, 06:14:30 PM
Quote from: Diet Coke on August 21, 2009, 03:40:49 PM
Jimmy Joe reckons the "blues" are good things! ;) Probably be an even money bet.

Harps to win by 4
Ogs to win by 2
Killeavey by 2 tonight - followed by a 3 point win over Granemore
Whitecross to win by 5
see on the OC killeavey were beaten by 18 pts . :o

St Patrick's beat Killeavy 1-18 to 0-9 in Friday's Armagh SFC replay at the Athletic Grounds.

Gary McCurry scored the goal for St Patrick's in the 18th minute and it helped thenm establish a 1-9 to 0-2 lead by half-time.

Tony Donnelly landed seven points for St Patrick's while Louth forward Mark Stanfield was Killeavy's top scorer with three.

The winners of Friday's game will meet Granemore in the quarter-finals.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: curvey on August 21, 2009, 11:51:53 PM
God that was some win for St Pats...that'll give them some confidence for their quarter final against Granemore.

Quarter Finals predictions:

Cross v Ogs = Cross by 3
Harps v Clans = Harps by 4 (although i hope it's Clans by 4)
St Pats v Granemore = St Pats by 2
Whitecross v Clann Eireann = Whitecross by 5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on August 21, 2009, 11:53:33 PM
Killeavy were taking to the cleaners tonight in the Athletic grounds by cullyhanna they beat hem by 12 or 13 points a game that was over at half time.cullyhannas forward line E CASEY,G MC COOEY,T DONNELLY was as good as i have seen in a while they will cause granemore alot off trouble.killeavy missed a pen which MC Donnell and Stanfield fought over to see who was going to take it in the end Stanfield took it and put it over the bar.C MC keever was on MC Donnell in which he never give MC Donnell a kick and getting 2 points him self.i think if cullyhanna can stay clear from cross we could see a cullyhanna cross final now that would be worth seeing cause the cullyhanna lads wont lie down against some off there former players think they would play the better for it lets watch this space
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 21, 2009, 11:55:57 PM
yeah it will give them plenty of confidence and they,ll go into this game big favourites to  progress to the semi-finals .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 22, 2009, 01:46:16 AM
Missed the game tonight as I was working until midnight. Sounds like I missed a cracking performance.  At least I've a q/final to look forward to.  :) Congratulations to the team and management, amazing to think that were it not for a late barely deserved equaliser, our season would have been over last Friday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 22, 2009, 12:19:03 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 21, 2009, 10:31:07 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 21, 2009, 10:24:03 PM
Pat's and Cruppen who are both safe. We play one of the two next week I think, so Im assuming theres a full round of fixtures to try and sort this relegation business out pronto.

Clans should be ok then cos they will more than likely beat Cruppen whose season is over. I honestly believe Culloville could now pull off the great escape. Would'nt be surprised to see them pull a fly one and get the Ogs game called off if it is down for next weekends fixture.


Would fancy Clans to win las two games whether cruppens season was over or not, they need a point to guarantee survival but thats assuming other teams win which Im sure wont happen so take it from me Clan na Gael will be playing division one football next year which is great considering the start they had, the young team they have and the collective view that they would have been the first team to be relegated. Oh and theres also the very real possibility of a championship semi-final on the horizon. Clans def capable of beating Harps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: curvey on August 22, 2009, 03:54:07 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 22, 2009, 12:19:03 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 21, 2009, 10:31:07 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 21, 2009, 10:24:03 PM
Pat's and Cruppen who are both safe. We play one of the two next week I think, so Im assuming theres a full round of fixtures to try and sort this relegation business out pronto.

Clans should be ok then cos they will more than likely beat Cruppen whose season is over. I honestly believe Culloville could now pull off the great escape. Would'nt be surprised to see them pull a fly one and get the Ogs game called off if it is down for next weekends fixture.


Would fancy Clans to win las two games whether cruppens season was over or not, they need a point to guarantee survival but thats assuming other teams win which Im sure wont happen so take it from me Clan na Gael will be playing division one football next year which is great considering the start they had, the young team they have and the collective view that they would have been the first team to be relegated. Oh and theres also the very real possibility of a championship semi-final on the horizon. Clans def capable of beating Harps.

Maybe you didn't hear me the first time. Obviously your as slow thinking as you are on the pitch ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 22, 2009, 08:19:51 PM
'bridge beat by ballymacnab tonight

any other results in D2?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 22, 2009, 08:31:58 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 21, 2009, 10:19:38 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 21, 2009, 10:05:44 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 21, 2009, 09:55:12 PM
If Culloville beat the Ogs they will have had some come back from near certain relegation only 5 or 6 weeks ago.
That'd be the type of them bastids!

Would expect Mullaghbawn to beat Dromintee whose season is already over.
Killeavy should beat Sarsfields whose season is over.
It all depends when Culloville play Pearse Ogs. If they play them next week, expect Ogs to win. If, however they play them the week after Ogs almost certain Championship exit to Cross then expect Culloville to win this game and send Killeavy and Mullaghbawn down. Thats assuming Clan na Gael pick up a point from their last 2 games which is by no means certain. Who have Clans left? I think its St Pats and someone else


You are obviously a genius :D :D  ;)

Clans have St Pat's at home and cruppen away can't believe culloville have pulled this deficit back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 22, 2009, 08:33:08 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 22, 2009, 08:19:51 PM
'bridge beat by ballymacnab tonight

any other results in D2?

The Harps and Madden was a draw
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on August 23, 2009, 01:08:51 AM
hope the bridge wan kers go down UP THE PATS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on August 23, 2009, 01:32:59 PM

Clans should be ok then cos they will more than likely beat Cruppen whose season is over. I honestly believe Culloville could now pull off the great escape. Would'nt be surprised to see them pull a fly one and get the Ogs game called off if it is down for next weekends fixture.
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I hear culloville have called their match off against the ogs next weekend. have they a championship match that weekend or is it a fly one as predicted above?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 23, 2009, 07:19:25 PM
I fail to see the fly one Davo. Do you mean they are waiting till the ogs go out and then play a weakened ogs. This could work against them if they go out of the championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on August 23, 2009, 08:29:29 PM
well done to armagh minors.think they could go on and win it now great full forward line tasker is something Else
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 23, 2009, 09:45:30 PM
Quote from: davo on August 23, 2009, 01:32:59 PM

Clans should be ok then cos they will more than likely beat Cruppen whose season is over. I honestly believe Culloville could now pull off the great escape. Would'nt be surprised to see them pull a fly one and get the Ogs game called off if it is down for next weekends fixture.

I hear culloville have called their match off against the ogs next weekend. have they a championship match that weekend or is it a fly one as predicted above?
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Surely it would be better for culloville to play them next week, ogs have nothing to play for in league as they are 2nd and therefore wouldnt risk their main players a week before locking horns with Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 24, 2009, 08:43:53 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 22, 2009, 08:19:51 PM
'bridge beat by ballymacnab tonight

any other results in D2?

Hell of a win... didn't expect that!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 24, 2009, 10:30:55 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on August 24, 2009, 08:43:53 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 22, 2009, 08:19:51 PM
'bridge beat by ballymacnab tonight

any other results in D2?

Hell of a win... didn't expect that!
did you read it right? they beat us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 24, 2009, 11:42:38 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 24, 2009, 10:30:55 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on August 24, 2009, 08:43:53 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 22, 2009, 08:19:51 PM
'bridge beat by ballymacnab tonight

any other results in D2?

Hell of a win... didn't expect that!
did you read it right? they beat us.

I've the eyes in now! That's better!  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on August 24, 2009, 01:20:33 PM
Quote from: back off the net on August 23, 2009, 01:08:51 AM
hope the bridge wan kers go down UP THE PATS

Fairly typical of the intelligent input you would expect from a cullyhanna man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on August 24, 2009, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 22, 2009, 08:19:51 PM
'bridge beat by ballymacnab tonight

any other results in D2?

Jarlath Burns coming on for the last 10 mins, what age is he? 42 or43

its scraping the barrel a wee bit, the bridge have went downhill
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 24, 2009, 03:36:17 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on August 24, 2009, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 22, 2009, 08:19:51 PM
'bridge beat by ballymacnab tonight

any other results in D2?

Jarlath Burns coming on for the last 10 mins, what age is he? 42 or43

its scraping the barrel a wee bit, the bridge have went downhill
There's hardly a club in the country that could cope with losing the players we have since last year, I'm proud of the lads, backs against the wall and their doing their very best.  Bringing on Jarlath is not ideal but it's just a case of all hands on deck.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 24, 2009, 03:39:59 PM
Clans lost more than yous lad, 9 retirements last year - alot of them household names.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on August 24, 2009, 03:57:22 PM

In whose house?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 24, 2009, 04:01:59 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 24, 2009, 03:39:59 PM
Clans lost more than yous lad, 9 retirements last year - alot of them household names.
9 retirements is tough alright but then you should have been preparing for that with younger players blooded and coming in.  We've lost about 8 or 9 of our first team, fellas in their early 20s due to emigration and long term injuries.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on August 24, 2009, 04:03:24 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 24, 2009, 03:36:17 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on August 24, 2009, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 22, 2009, 08:19:51 PM
'bridge beat by ballymacnab tonight

any other results in D2?

Jarlath Burns coming on for the last 10 mins, what age is he? 42 or43

its scraping the barrel a wee bit, the bridge have went downhill
There's hardly a club in the country that could cope with losing the players we have since last year, I'm proud of the lads, backs against the wall and their doing their very best.  Bringing on Jarlath is not ideal but it's just a case of all hands on deck.

Totally agree, thats my point they have went down hill, they are a shadow of former bridge teams
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 24, 2009, 04:23:39 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 24, 2009, 04:01:59 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 24, 2009, 03:39:59 PM
Clans lost more than yous lad, 9 retirements last year - alot of them household names.
9 retirements is tough alright but then you should have been preparing for that with younger players blooded and coming in.  We've lost about 8 or 9 of our first team, fellas in their early 20s due to emigration and long term injuries.


I couldnt agree more we should have been blooding younger players however our previous management team put more emphasis on trying to squeeze a championship out. As a result they paid very little attention to younger players and stayed loyal to the older more established ones. The young players are being blooded now alright with alot of them in the first team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 24, 2009, 04:24:11 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 24, 2009, 03:57:22 PM

In whose house?


Your mummy's son.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 24, 2009, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 24, 2009, 04:23:39 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 24, 2009, 04:01:59 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 24, 2009, 03:39:59 PM
Clans lost more than yous lad, 9 retirements last year - alot of them household names.
9 retirements is tough alright but then you should have been preparing for that with younger players blooded and coming in.  We've lost about 8 or 9 of our first team, fellas in their early 20s due to emigration and long term injuries.


I couldnt agree more we should have been blooding younger players however our previous management team put more emphasis on trying to squeeze a championship out. As a result they paid very little attention to younger players and stayed loyal to the older more established ones. The young players are being blooded now alright with alot of them in the first team.
Clans probably just got away with it, having been relatively successful at underage the last 2/3 years, i think 7 of our starting 15 made their championship debuts last week. For a rural club like silverbridge though thats bound to be tough going.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 24, 2009, 04:47:32 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on August 15, 2009, 09:38:43 PM
Cross over Tir NaOg by about 22 points. No contest

Spotted Enda Muldoon at the game. He must be thinking ahead.
Wonder if enda will be taking in anymore games in the armagh championship  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 24, 2009, 04:47:46 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 24, 2009, 04:38:39 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 24, 2009, 04:23:39 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 24, 2009, 04:01:59 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 24, 2009, 03:39:59 PM
Clans lost more than yous lad, 9 retirements last year - alot of them household names.
9 retirements is tough alright but then you should have been preparing for that with younger players blooded and coming in.  We've lost about 8 or 9 of our first team, fellas in their early 20s due to emigration and long term injuries.


I couldnt agree more we should have been blooding younger players however our previous management team put more emphasis on trying to squeeze a championship out. As a result they paid very little attention to younger players and stayed loyal to the older more established ones. The young players are being blooded now alright with alot of them in the first team.
Clans probably just got away with it, having been relatively successful at underage the last 2/3 years, i think 7 of our starting 15 made their championship debuts last week. For a rural club like silverbridge though thats bound to be tough going.
I think in our first year of intermediate we'd something similar to that figure making championship debuts too, we were already building for the last 3 or 4 years with very young senior teams and then we lose over half of them, through no fault of their own, so we were always going to find it difficult.  Hopefully we'll manage to avoid relegation though and get players back, I'd still be very confident of establishing a strong team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 24, 2009, 04:54:16 PM
Pints when you say a strong team at what level wold you expect this team to compete.

What is happeneing with Silverbridge at the moment coud be  yet another example of a club where things are going very well within the club but football seems to be  going the opposite way. Sometimes clubs tend to get a little carried away with facilties to the extent where they build and build and the sole focus of the club moves from football.  I am not saying that clubs don't need good facilties (before i get jumpd on) and the faciltesat Silverbridge are top drawer. Now i wouldn't have much connection with Silverbridge but  would there be any truth in this Pints?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 24, 2009, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 24, 2009, 04:54:16 PM
Pints when you say a strong team at what level wold you expect this team to compete.

What is happeneing with Silverbridge at the moment coud be  yet another example of a club where things are going very well within the club but football seems to be  going the opposite way. Sometimes clubs tend to get a little carried away with facilties to the extent where they build and build and the sole focus of the club moves from football.  I am not saying that clubs don't need good facilties (before i get jumpd on) and the faciltesat Silverbridge are top drawer. Now i wouldn't have much connection with Silverbridge but  would there be any truth in this Pints?
In my opinion, and it's only mine, had we everyone on board we would have been among the favourites for the intermediate championship, no reason why we couldnt have won it and would have been pushing for promotion with a young team who in a few years I would have expected them to be holding their own in Division 1. 

With regards to facilities, no I dont believe it's a case of neglecting the team and concentrating on facilities and things, what would the point be in that? We have a small pick (bigger than some other clubs granted) a young team who were donig very well but we lost over half of them.  There's not much anyone or any club can do about that.  But it's not all doom and gloom, injured players should get back, look at young carragher and maybe a few boys will come home and we'll pick things up again.  Just one of those years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 24, 2009, 05:14:31 PM
Just asking pints because it was a club that i would have played against early in my playing days but i haven't seen much from them in recent years
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 24, 2009, 06:01:06 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 24, 2009, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 24, 2009, 04:54:16 PM
Pints when you say a strong team at what level wold you expect this team to compete.

What is happeneing with Silverbridge at the moment coud be  yet another example of a club where things are going very well within the club but football seems to be  going the opposite way. Sometimes clubs tend to get a little carried away with facilties to the extent where they build and build and the sole focus of the club moves from football.  I am not saying that clubs don't need good facilties (before i get jumpd on) and the faciltesat Silverbridge are top drawer. Now i wouldn't have much connection with Silverbridge but  would there be any truth in this Pints?
In my opinion, and it's only mine, had we everyone on board we would have been among the favourites for the intermediate championship, no reason why we couldnt have won it and would have been pushing for promotion with a young team who in a few years I would have expected them to be holding their own in Division 1. 

With regards to facilities, no I dont believe it's a case of neglecting the team and concentrating on facilities and things, what would the point be in that? We have a small pick (bigger than some other clubs granted) a young team who were donig very well but we lost over half of them.  There's not much anyone or any club can do about that.  But it's not all doom and gloom, injured players should get back, look at young carragher and maybe a few boys will come home and we'll pick things up again.  Just one of those years.

Pints has it anything to do with what you mentioned to me the other day? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 24, 2009, 06:09:53 PM
Nope
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downgirl on August 24, 2009, 08:24:25 PM
Lads, need a bit of help, have a friend from the Tandragee area who is looking to get into hurling, are there any clubs nearby that he could join?  If anyone has any details can they pm me contacts etc?

Many thanks,

DG

;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 24, 2009, 09:47:38 PM
St Malachy's - Poprtadown
Sean traceys - Lurgan
Ballavarley - Banbridge
Cuchullains - Armagh

Take your pick
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tout on August 24, 2009, 09:55:48 PM
cuchulianns in my opinion..very young team and tipped to be the next big team in Armagh :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on August 24, 2009, 09:57:16 PM
Quote from: downgirl on August 24, 2009, 08:24:25 PM
Lads, need a bit of help, have a friend from the Tandragee area who is looking to get into hurling, are there any clubs nearby that he could join?  If anyone has any details can they pm me contacts etc?

Many thanks,

DG

;D



PM'd you
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghfan25 on August 25, 2009, 08:11:18 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 23, 2009, 09:45:30 PM
Quote from: davo on August 23, 2009, 01:32:59 PM

Clans should be ok then cos they will more than likely beat Cruppen whose season is over. I honestly believe Culloville could now pull off the great escape. Would'nt be surprised to see them pull a fly one and get the Ogs game called off if it is down for next weekends fixture.

I hear culloville have called their match off against the ogs next weekend. have they a championship match that weekend or is it a fly one as predicted above?


Surely it would be better for culloville to play them next week, ogs have nothing to play for in league as they are 2nd and therefore wouldnt risk their main players a week before locking horns with Cross.
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Culloville play Keady this Sunday in the IFC at the athletic grounds, and with the Ogs out the following weekend against cross that league match will prob be played Sunday 13th i'd say
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 25, 2009, 08:18:42 AM
Wednesday 26 August
Minor Football Championship (7.00)
Derrynoose v St John's (Stephen McKinley)
Cavanakill Emmett's v Grange (Gary Smith)
Culloville v Pearse Og (Damian McConville)
Maghery v Carrickcruppen (Kevin Gallogly)
St Brigid's v Ballymacnab (Kevin Murtagh)
Forkhill v Middletown (Oliver Hearty)
Sarsfields v Keady (Jim Lynch)
An Port Mor v Killeavy (Stephen Murray)
Clan na Gael v Wolfe Tone (Paul Rath)
Dromintee v Tir na nÓg (Noel Martin)
Madden v Eire Og (Vincent O'Neill)
Granemore v St Patrick's (Seamus O'Neill)
St Peter's v Clann Eireann (Jim Burns)
Crossmaglen v St Paul's (Jim Slevin)
Extra time, if required

Thursday 27 August
ACL – Div. III (7.15)
St Peter's v Annaghmore (Stephen Murray)

Saturday 29 August
Junior Football Championship (6.00)
Crossmaglen v O'Hanlon's (Paul Rath) at Dromintee
Shane O'Neill's v Tullysaran (Kevin McNeice) at Ballymacnab
Eire Og v Phelim Brady's (Jim Lynch) at An Port Mor

Sunday 30 August
Intermediate Football Championship Semi-finals
Culloville v Keady (Mickey Leonard) at Athletic Grounds (5.15)
St Michael's v Wolfe Tone (Patrick Duffy) at Athletic Grounds (7.00)

ACL – Div. I (6.00)
Carrickcruppen v Clan na Gael (Ronan Quigley)
St Patrick's v Crossmaglen (Seamus O'Neill)
Mullaghbawn v Dromintee (Noel Martin)
Sarsfields v Killeavy (Paul Boylan)

ACL – Div. II (6.00)
Silverbridge v Harps (Barney Henry)
Whitecross v Clann Eireann (Kevin McNeice)
Ballymacnab v Ballyhegan (Rory Robinson)
Granemore v Tir na nÓg (Paudie Hughes)
Madden v Maghery (Jimmy McKee)

ACL – Div. III (6.00)
Belleek v Annaghmore (Kevin Gallogly)
Collegeland v St Peter's (Jim Burns)
Lissummon v An Port Mor (Dessie McDonnell)

ACL – Div. IV (6.00)
Killean v Dorsey Emmett's (Eamon Nugent)
Derrynoose v Mullaghbrack (Vincent O'Neill)
Corrinshego v Grange (Joe Murtagh)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 25, 2009, 11:21:18 PM
How many tickets will each minor panellist get.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on August 26, 2009, 09:39:48 AM
Quote from: crossfire on August 25, 2009, 11:21:18 PM
How many tickets will each minor panellist get.?

Not sure, how many tickets will each club get?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 26, 2009, 11:42:08 AM
just out of curiousity how many clubs are there in the county that have players playing irish league soccer?? was discussing this topic last night, is it true that one of the ballymacnab players on the minor team is being sniffed around by an irish league club?? Clans have a couple as do tir na nog, any other clubs lose out to the groundball game??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 26, 2009, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 26, 2009, 11:42:08 AM
just out of curiousity how many clubs are there in the county that have players playing irish league soccer?? was discussing this topic last night, is it true that one of the ballymacnab players on the minor team is being sniffed around by an irish league club?? Clans have a couple as do tir na nog, any other clubs lose out to the groundball game??

Gavin McParland plays for Armagh City so it could be true
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 26, 2009, 01:18:32 PM
Kevin Keegan plays for Newry City. Lots of the other lads are playing soccer at a lower level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on August 26, 2009, 02:11:37 PM
the ongoing rumour about willie jo Padden going to Cruppen is back, supposedly he was pissed off after Mayo`s defeat and with him living in Newry and travelling to training the fact that he only got 7 minutes action is swaying him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on August 26, 2009, 02:13:20 PM
This rumour has been going on for a few years now, hasnt materialised yet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on August 26, 2009, 07:54:35 PM
To note: The fixture between Silverbridge and Armagh Harps has been re-scheduled to take place in ABBEY PARK on SATURDAY 29th AUGUST at 7pm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 26, 2009, 08:35:33 PM
Clans minors won by 6. Prob should have won by few more.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 26, 2009, 09:15:38 PM
Cross minors won easily against St Pauls.
Any other results.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on August 26, 2009, 09:50:08 PM
Quote from: BenDover on August 26, 2009, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 26, 2009, 11:42:08 AM
just out of curiousity how many clubs are there in the county that have players playing irish league soccer?? was discussing this topic last night, is it true that one of the ballymacnab players on the minor team is being sniffed around by an irish league club?? Clans have a couple as do tir na nog, any other clubs lose out to the groundball game??

Gavin McParland plays for Armagh City so it could be true

i think he has played soccer at underage level for northern ireland.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 26, 2009, 09:56:55 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on August 26, 2009, 09:50:08 PM
Quote from: BenDover on August 26, 2009, 12:37:28 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 26, 2009, 11:42:08 AM
just out of curiousity how many clubs are there in the county that have players playing irish league soccer?? was discussing this topic last night, is it true that one of the ballymacnab players on the minor team is being sniffed around by an irish league club?? Clans have a couple as do tir na nog, any other clubs lose out to the groundball game??

Gavin McParland plays for Armagh City so it could be true

i think he has played soccer at underage level for northern ireland.
did anyone see him v kerry putting up the imaginery card to get the kerry lad booked . ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 27, 2009, 01:37:00 PM
any shocks in the minor championship? cross the favourites i take it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 27, 2009, 02:37:46 PM
When is the draw for the next round of the minor championship??
Title: Bredagh
Post by: bredaghgael on August 27, 2009, 02:53:03 PM
      Bredagh Talks Sam and Liam-Wellington Park Hotel @8.30pm Thurs 3rd Sept
Regular guest Joe Brolly will be joined this year by fellow Derry man and Antrim Football Manager Liam Bradley,
Armagh's Oisin Mc Conville,Radio Ulster's Lynnette Fay,Tyrone's Ryan Mc Menamin and Cork's All-Ireland Hurling winning Captain in 1990,RTE Hurling analyst Tomás Mulcahy.
Throw-in @ 8.30pm and MC for the event will be Jerome Quinn.

Tickets £10 to include entry to a draw for two All-Ireland Hurling Final tickets and two All-Ireland Football Final tickets
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 27, 2009, 04:50:56 PM
Harps  minors would be big favourites only lost about 4 players from last year with ballymacnab and st.pats next, after that cross clans etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 27, 2009, 05:50:55 PM
cruppen v clans match has been moved to 1pm on sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 27, 2009, 05:56:55 PM
whys that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 27, 2009, 05:59:01 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 27, 2009, 05:56:55 PM
whys that?

cruppen manager going on holiday Sunday evening.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 28, 2009, 12:29:44 AM
I am waiting on the conspiracy theories as to why the match was changed ie to relegate the other teams which usually comes up ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 28, 2009, 09:07:51 AM
i thought that no games could be played on sunday until after the 125 gaa parade in armagh which starts at 12 as the county board expect all clubs to part-take.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 28, 2009, 12:47:13 PM
What do you think now??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 28, 2009, 02:47:24 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 28, 2009, 12:47:13 PM
What do you think now??

:D Correct
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 28, 2009, 03:20:55 PM
nice saan ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 28, 2009, 05:07:36 PM
Next round of Minor Championship games to be played on Saturday 26th September, draw to be made next week.

How do the Clans expect us to spy on them now the bastids when we'll all be marching Sunday morning :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 28, 2009, 07:16:15 PM
well as far as i know cruppen u8's or u10's are heading to the march. It hardly matters to our seniors, they wouldnt be at it if there was a match or not. anyway. I'd expect clans to survive regardless of the result on sunday. Cruppen are attending the Gaelic Life Ulster U21 7s tournament in Coalisland on saturday so we'll have a few tired legs i would imagine on sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 29, 2009, 10:30:39 AM
7 tired legs???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: curvey on August 29, 2009, 11:42:53 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 29, 2009, 10:30:39 AM
7 tired legs???

20 tired legs actually...think about it ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 29, 2009, 01:05:24 PM
Jesus theres some craic on this board today!! Stop it yous 2 I cant take anymore!! :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: curvey on August 30, 2009, 12:06:59 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 29, 2009, 01:05:24 PM
Jesus theres some craic on this board today!! Stop it yous 2 I cant take anymore!! :P

We'll c what your 17 stone legs will take during the game saan.

Harps beat the Bridge tonight. Any other scores?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 30, 2009, 03:54:17 PM
Clans beat Cruppen today, 3-9 to 0-9, according to the ref. The less said the better
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on August 30, 2009, 06:06:26 PM
Keady beating Cullaville 0-7 to  0-2 at half time in the intermediate championship. Only 3 red cards so far.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 30, 2009, 06:39:10 PM
tir na og failed to show up for their game v granemore , ref was on the pitch .
thats no game for granemore since they played dromintee in the championship , since that game granemore have lost their corner back [ discolated shoulder ] and full back [ broken leg ]
not looking good for us with the game v st pats next week  :( .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 30, 2009, 06:44:09 PM
Quote from: torres on August 30, 2009, 06:39:10 PM
tir na og failed to show up for their game v granemore , ref was on the pitch .
thats no game for granemore since they played dromintee in the championship , since that game granemore have lost their corner back [ discolated shoulder ] and full back [ broken leg ]
not looking good for us with the game v st pats next week  :( .

That's a poor show from Tir na nÓg though our match with Cross didn't go ahead either. Don't like this habit of not playing matches towards the end of the season.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on August 30, 2009, 06:53:43 PM
Keady won by 2 points, 10 to 0-8.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on August 30, 2009, 07:50:15 PM
Mullaghbawn 2-08
Dromintee 0-08

Competitive game.  Ups to Og's now to do us a favour  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 30, 2009, 08:50:30 PM
competitive :D :D :D :D :D having a giraffe saan. How did Killeavy do?????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 30, 2009, 09:17:05 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 30, 2009, 08:50:30 PM
competitive :D :D :D :D :D having a giraffe saan. How did Killeavy do?????
Killeavy won
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on August 31, 2009, 12:24:57 PM
What about the Junior games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 31, 2009, 02:01:31 PM
Shane O'Neills beat Tullysaran by 1 point
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 31, 2009, 03:17:20 PM
O'Hanlon's beat Cross IIs by 2 points. Big shock there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 31, 2009, 04:17:54 PM
Intermediate Championship Semi Final
Sunday 30 August, Athletic Grounds
Wolfe Tones 1-09 St.Michaels, Newtownhamilton 1-11
Wolfe Tones hopes of winning the intermediate championship came to an end on Sunday evening at the Athletic Grounds, where they lost narrowly to St.Michael's Newtownhamilton who will now go on to face Keady in the decider on Sunday 4 October. 
The winners where quickly out of the blocks and opened the scoring in the first minute when their number.13 was able to kick a fine score on the run from the right wing.  The Tones response was immediate, after a searching ball from wing-forward Declan Lavery, Gerard Kavanagh was able to gain possession and lay the ball off to Chris McAlinden, who found the target from 25 yards with his right boot. 
The Tones moved ahead for the 1st time after 8 minutes after a goal chance went begging.  Gerard Kavanagh broke the ball down to himself and instinctively swung on the ball, and the effort which appeared goalbound was deflected wide by the St.Michael's full back.  From the resulting "45", Conor Coleman stepped up and calmly put the ball over the bar. 
The Tones extended their lead after 11 minutes after a sublime point from Declan Lavery.  Chris McAlinden's pass found Brendan Coleman and his layoff found Declan around 30 yards out on the left hand touchline and he was able to raise a white flag. 
St.Michael's responded in the 12th minute with when their midfielder was fouled 30 yards from the Tones goal.  The no.13 converted this to leave the minimum between the sides. 
Declan Lavery then claimed 2 points in as many minutes for the Tones.  The first came after Brendan Coleman collected a pin-point Connor McCarron pass and he split the posts from 35 yards.  The second of the brace came after Chris McAlinden found Declan on the right wing and he cut inside to leave 3 points between the sides midway between the first half. 
After good pressure from Michael Carson on the St.Michael's centre half forward, forced him to kick wide, the Tones where then hit by a sucker punch.  After 22 minutes the St.Michael's midfield combined to cut through the Tones defence and their no.12 blasted to the Tones net leaving 'keeper Gerard O'Neill with no chance. 
Two minutes later, the Tones responded with their own 3 pointer.  After a great surging run from Niall Geoghegan who got through a mountain of work allday, Connor Coleman was pulled down and after consultation with his umpires, the referee awarded the penalty.  Chris McAlinden stepped up and his penalty sneaked past the keeper who was able to get hands on the ball, but not prevent it from finding the right hand corner. 
In stoppage time at the end of he first half, St.Michael's where able to reduce the arrears to 1 point when their no. 13 converted two frees, leaving all to play for going into the second half with St.Michael's having the aid of the breeze in the 2nd half. 


Half Time Wolfe Tones 1-05 St.Michael 1-04
The Tones got the opening score of the second half after 32 minutes.  Ryan McQuillan outstanding throughout, got out in front of his man and made a trademark surge forward.  He found Finnian Moriarty who placed a splendid pass infront of John Toal who found the on rushing Niall Geoghegan who pointed from 21 yards. 
After 36 minutes, there was once again only a point separating the sides.  The St.Michael's no.13 showing a touch of class to sell a dummy and kick a point with his left foot from 21 yards. 
After 39 minutes, corner forward Jonathan McCarron picked up possession in his own 21yard line and after linking well with Declan Lavery and Gerard Kavanagh, Michael Carson found Brendan Coleman who drilled the ball over from 30 yards for a fine worked team score. 
Michael Carson's good work continued in the 41st minute when he got himself on the scoresheet.  Ryan McQuillan found John Toal and Michael surged through the St.Michael's defence and with the possibility of a goal, took the sensible option and fisted the ball over the bar.  The Tones where now 3 ahead and looked to have the momentum to win the game.  However, they would not register another point for 17 minutes which proved to be a key factor in St.Michael's progession to the final. 
With 43 minutes on the clock, a fine crossfield diagonal pass found the St.Michael's no.13 who pointed from 20 yards.  A minute later, there was sight of the Tones goal for the St.Michael's full forward, however, he was well stood up by Connor McCarron and had to settle for a point. 
The game had a real championship feel at this stage, with both sides showing great guts and determination.  After 54 minutes the sides where level for the first time since the 22 minute.  After a "45" dropped short, the St.Michael's full forward drove the ball over the bar having won the breaking ball around the Tones 14 yard line. 
This seemed to really galvinise St.Michael's and they scored points in the 56th and 57th minute through their no.15 and full forward respectively to put them ahead for the first time since the opening minute. 
Declan Lavery then saw a sniff of a goal chance and from 25 yards went for goal and forced the St.Michael's keeper into a good save.  The Tones where then able to recycle possession and Stephen Lavery found Declan Lavery who took a point to leave a point between the sides with a minute to play. 
During the two minutes of added time, the Tones where unable to manufacture any chance of the equalising point and in added ontime the St.Michael's No.15 scored the insurance point to send them through to the final to face Keady. 
Full time Wolfe Tones 1-09 St.Michael's Newtownhamilton
Wolfe Tones: Gerard O'Neill, Niall Geoghegan(0-01), Ryan McQuillan, Chris McCarron, Michael Carson(0-01), Connor McCarron, Emmet Haughian, Finnian Moriarty, Connor Coleman(0-01,"45"), Declan Lavery(0-04), Chris McAlinden1-01),, James Lavery, Brendan Coleman(0-01), Gerard Kavanagh, Jonathan McCarron Subs: John Toal for James Lavery, Stephen Lavery for Jonathan McCarron

disappointing to loose a game where we where either level or ahead for 55 minutes off.  have concentrate on surviving div2 now. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 31, 2009, 07:27:34 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 30, 2009, 06:44:09 PM
Quote from: torres on August 30, 2009, 06:39:10 PM
tir na og failed to show up for their game v granemore , ref was on the pitch .
thats no game for granemore since they played dromintee in the championship , since that game granemore have lost their corner back [ discolated shoulder ] and full back [ broken leg ]
not looking good for us with the game v st pats next week  :( .

That's a poor show from Tir na nÓg though our match with Cross didn't go ahead either. Don't like this habit of not playing matches towards the end of the season.
How come, was it not this time last year cross were whinging cos no one would play them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 31, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
lads had the pleasure of the great R Quigey as ref on sunday in Cruppen and h managed to surpass even his own low standards. This man is nothing short of a clown. We had a man sent off in the first half. Now the lad was blown up for over carrying and he called the ref a dick(which he shouldn'thave done) he was then given a yellow card and asked by quigley to repeat what he said so our lad repated it and quigley said at least you are man enough to repeat it and gave him a staright red our lad ill now miss the senior championship because of this. Quigley then said that he had heard we (clans) had misbehaved against cullyhanna a few weeks back and that he would fix that. He aso pointed out our number 7 and said he gave me abuse at an u-21 game. Now several of the cruppen lads witnessed this also. How can this man getaway with this. We went cruppen clubhouse after the game ad the cruppen faithful couldn't believe what Quigley had done and they were asking us what we had done on him. I was later informed that Eire Og have a complaint in about this guy also and i can tell yu there will be another forwarded. What is the story with Quiigley and Cross??????????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2009, 07:45:22 PM
Get away with what winsam? redcarding a player that give him abuse, twice?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 31, 2009, 07:46:33 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 31, 2009, 07:27:34 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 30, 2009, 06:44:09 PM
Quote from: torres on August 30, 2009, 06:39:10 PM
tir na og failed to show up for their game v granemore , ref was on the pitch .
thats no game for granemore since they played dromintee in the championship , since that game granemore have lost their corner back [ discolated shoulder ] and full back [ broken leg ]
not looking good for us with the game v st pats next week  :( .

That's a poor show from Tir na nÓg though our match with Cross didn't go ahead either. Don't like this habit of not playing matches towards the end of the season.
How come, was it not this time last year cross were whinging cos no one would play them

Not really sure if it was our fault, their fault or just mutual agreement. Possibly it may have had something to do with the Cross II's championship match the night before. Wonder if our game with Clans will be played as well. Possibly not. Think Cross played 17 of their 18 games though.

Quote from: winsamsoon on August 31, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
lads had the pleasure of the great R Quigey as ref on sunday in Cruppen and h managed to surpass even his own low standards. This man is nothing short of a clown. We had a man sent off in the first half. Now the lad was blown up for over carrying and he called the ref a dick(which he shouldn'thave done) he was then given a yellow card and asked by quigley to repeat what he said so our lad repated it and quigley said at least you are man enough to repeat it and gave him a staright red our lad ill now miss the senior championship because of this. Quigley then said that he had heard we (clans) had misbehaved against cullyhanna a few weeks back and that he would fix that. He aso pointed out our number 7 and said he gave me abuse at an u-21 game. Now several of the cruppen lads witnessed this also. How can this man getaway with this. We went cruppen clubhouse after the game ad the cruppen faithful couldn't believe what Quigley had done and they were asking us what we had done on him. I was later informed that Eire Og have a complaint in about this guy also and i can tell yu there will be another forwarded. What is the story with Quiigley and Cross??????????

Think Cross refuse to play underage matches referreed by him. At least I think that was the case last year. Not sure exactly what the row was over.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 31, 2009, 07:52:11 PM
maybe didn't make it clear pints he asked the player the second time to repeat what he said as the two of them were conversing. So the second time was not aimed at the ref he was simply answering the refs question. You should also try and comment on all of the incidents cited rather that selecting snippets . The how does he get away this was on al incidents. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2009, 08:01:54 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 31, 2009, 07:52:11 PM
maybe didn't make it clear pints he asked the player the second time to repeat what he said as the two of them were conversing. So the second time was not aimed at the ref he was simply answering the refs question. You should also try and comment on all of the incidents cited rather that selecting snippets . The how does he get away this was on al incidents.
I dont see what other incidents there are, he said yous caused trouble against cullyhanna and pointed out a player who give him abuse before? So what?
And why or how did he ask the player to repeat himself? Tell me the whole conversation between the two of them.
Looks to me like your player give him abuse when he blew him up, red card would be harsh in my eyes, but then no ref should be expected to take abuse. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 31, 2009, 08:09:22 PM
The man isn't fit to referee IMO. Regardless of the obvious chip on his shoulder he has with Clans, he is inconsistant, slow to react and seemingly unable to count.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: qub la la la on August 31, 2009, 08:45:39 PM
Quigley was ridiculous. at half time cruppen were winning 5 4. but quigley said clans were winning. even one of the clans selectors said to quigley cruppen are winning, to which quigley replied "Im the ref, Clans are winning". What a clown. The clans man was targeted by quigley and he blew him up for over-carrying just to get a reaction, which he got. There is no way in heaven or earth that he had over-carried as he was only after soloing the ball. Quigley is an absolute farce. He shouldnt be allowed to referee anything.

This was also the second time this year that a referee has got the score wrong in Carrickcruppen, its crazy the stuff they get away with. Who monitors these men and allows them to destroy our games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 31, 2009, 09:04:10 PM
So you think it is acceptable for a ref to bring things up during a totally different game pints. Surely then this only highlights the fact that he has came into the game with a hatred for my club. He more or less said it.

On the incident the lad was blown up for over carrying , after which he called the ref a dick. The ref then called him and booked him no further words were exchanged until the ref asked him to repeat what he had said so our lad repeated it. Quigley then produced a straight red for apparently the same offence that had only warranted a yellow moments earlier.

I also forgot about the score issue but i would have said if the game would have been close he would have then said that Cruppen won by 1. So we counted it as 5-4 to cruppen anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2009, 09:16:47 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 31, 2009, 09:04:10 PM
So you think it is acceptable for a ref to bring things up during a totally different game pints. Surely then this only highlights the fact that he has came into the game with a hatred for my club. He more or less said it.

On the incident the lad was blown up for over carrying , after which he called the ref a dick. The ref then called him and booked him no further words were exchanged until the ref asked him to repeat what he had said so our lad repeated it. Quigley then produced a straight red for apparently the same offence that had only warranted a yellow moments earlier.

I also forgot about the score issue but i would have said if the game would have been close he would have then said that Cruppen won by 1. So we counted it as 5-4 to cruppen anyway.
I find that hard to believe to tbh, he went from calling the ref a dick to being as quiet as a mouse? 

As for the ref bringing things up from other games, I dont think he should but then I don't really see the big deal.  You say he hates your club but he had yous ahead at half time when you say you werent? Yes, real hatred there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on August 31, 2009, 09:26:08 PM
Wasn't at the game, so I can't comment on the specific incidents referred to.

What I will say is that I hate to see fellow Armagh Gaels come in for personal abuse on this public forum. It is well out of order.

As for others encouraging the ref to jack it in, or stating that he is not fit for the job, a word to the wise - we are not exactly coming down with referees in the County! And with discussions like this, that is not likely to change anyway soon! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Off The Fence on August 31, 2009, 09:37:04 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on August 31, 2009, 09:26:08 PM
Wasn't at the game, so I can't comment on the specific incidents referred to.

What I will say is that I hate to see fellow Armagh Gaels come in for personal abuse on this public forum. It is well out of order.

As for others encouraging the ref to jack it in, or stating that he is not fit for the job, a word to the wise - we are not exactly coming down with referees in the County! And with discussions like this, that is not likely to change anyway soon! 

So nobody is allowed to comment on an absolute p***k who thinks he is god gift.  The list on Quigley is as long as your and I'd nearly rather see a game not played than refereed by this idiot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 31, 2009, 09:39:29 PM
Yes Rufus but thats the point referees know this and they use it to thier advantage, they think they are untouchable. ive stated before that referees inArmagh have too much status and power they are not held accountable for their actions which is why they can do whatever they like. the 2 teams should decide the outcome of a match not some t**t in the middle with a hot poker up his ass because he has 60 mins of authority every week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 31, 2009, 09:40:56 PM
I also agree with this criticism of Quigly specifically - he is an absolute menace to this sport. A complete idiot!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 31, 2009, 10:10:23 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2009, 09:16:47 PM
As for the ref bringing things up from other games, I dont think he should but then I don't really see the big deal.  You say he hates your club but he had yous ahead at half time when you say you werent? Yes, real hatred there.
Sheer incompetence on his behalf maybe? FFS he had the scoreboard turned off at half time because it displayed the correct score, insulting everyone else's intellegence in the process  ???

Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on August 31, 2009, 09:26:08 PM
Wasn't at the game, so I can't comment on the specific incidents referred to.

What I will say is that I hate to see fellow Armagh Gaels come in for personal abuse on this public forum. It is well out of order.

As for others encouraging the ref to jack it in, or stating that he is not fit for the job, a word to the wise - we are not exactly coming down with referees in the County! And with discussions like this, that is not likely to change anyway soon! 
Everyone knows without refs we'd have no games. You'd really need to have been at the game on Sunday to appreciate how big a tube Quigley is. At the very least he should not officiate any Clan na Gael games in future.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2009, 10:20:52 PM
How did he get the scoreboard turned off at half time??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 31, 2009, 10:47:14 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2009, 10:20:52 PM
How did he get the scoreboard turned off at half time??

He pulled out the plug- I have never seen a worse refeering performance- hes the ETU's wet dream
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: curvey on August 31, 2009, 11:26:06 PM
Ronan Quigley is a fool and every club (except Silverbridge) seem to have some sort of issue with this man, surly that proves something? He always seems to be on a power trip and it's "He" who has to be centre of attention and not the players on the pitch.

We def need more ref's in Armagh as there is a shortage alright but we could be doing without guys like him. It's a pity he doesn't read the board and do himself a favour or he could read this and tell himself to wise up and get the chip off his shoulder and start doing matches as a neutral instead of starting a game already having his mind made up about certain teams or individuals
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2009, 11:28:26 PM
How do you know he doesnt read the board?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: curvey on August 31, 2009, 11:43:12 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2009, 11:28:26 PM
How do you know he doesnt read the board?

Well if he did he'd have wised up by now and realised how everyone feels about him.

Unless he's one of the MOD's :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2009, 11:45:41 PM
Quote from: curvey on August 31, 2009, 11:43:12 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2009, 11:28:26 PM
How do you know he doesnt read the board?

Well if he did he'd have wised up by now and realised how everyone feels about him.

Unless he's one of the MOD's :D :D :D

Well it's not how everyone feels about him...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on September 01, 2009, 09:06:56 AM
Quote from: curvey on August 31, 2009, 11:26:06 PM
Ronan Quigley is a fool and every club (except Silverbridge) seem to have some sort of issue with this man, surly that proves something? He always seems to be on a power trip and it's "He" who has to be centre of attention and not the players on the pitch.

We def need more ref's in Armagh as there is a shortage alright but we could be doing without guys like him. It's a pity he doesn't read the board and do himself a favour or he could read this and tell himself to wise up and get the chip off his shoulder and start doing matches as a neutral instead of starting a game already having his mind made up about certain teams or individuals

Know a few boys from the bridge, who would hold the same opinion as most on here, and reckon they are more than lucky that he never gets the chance to referee them.. Says it all!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 01, 2009, 09:12:52 AM
Wednesday 2 September
ACL – Div. IV (7.00)
Mullaghbrack v Corrinshego (Paul Boylan)

Saturday 5 September
Senior Football Championship Quarter-final (7.00)
Crossmaglen v Pearse Og (Stephen Murray) at Athletic Grounds
ACL – Div. II (6.30)
Wolfe Tone v Whitecross (Rory Robinson)
Ballymacnab v Silverbridge (Damian McConville)
Madden v Harps (Stephen McKinley)
St Michael's v Clann Eireann (Kevin Gallogly)
Tir na nÓg v Ballyhegan (Paul Rath)
ACL – Div. III (6.30)
Tullysaran v Shane O'Neill's (Ronan Quigley)
Belleek v St Paul's (Eugene D Nugent)
Collegeland v Middletown (Noel Martin)
Lissummon v Keady (Kevin Murtagh)
An Port Mor v Clonmore (Jim Slevin)
ACL – Div. IV (6.30)
Phelim Brady's v O'Hanlon's (Barney Henry)
Crossmaglen II v Killean (Vincent O'Neill)
Derrynoose v Forkhill (Frank McDonald)
Grange v Corrinshego (Patrick Duffy)
Mullaghbrack v Clady (Seamus O'Neill)

Sunday 6 September
Senior Football Championship Quarter-final (7.00)
Granemore v St Patrick's (Rory Robinson) at Athletic Grounds


Excellent planning by the CB to fix the club games around the same time as the quarter final of the senior c'ship between the 2 favourites ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 01, 2009, 10:28:27 AM
That is pretty sh1t alright but i'll get to see the match so it's not much of a problem but for the rest of you guys that have a game it's bad organising alright.

I see Mr Quigley is making the headlines again ::) what else do you expect from that tube
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 01, 2009, 11:30:40 AM
QuoteACL – Div. IV (6.30)
Phelim Brady’s v O’Hanlon’s (Barney Henry)
Crossmaglen II v Killean (Vincent O’Neill)

On imagines that some on the Cross seconds might have an interest in events in the Athletic Grounds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on September 01, 2009, 01:26:04 PM
Quote from: torres on August 30, 2009, 06:39:10 PM
tir na og failed to show up for their game v granemore , ref was on the pitch .
thats no game for granemore since they played dromintee in the championship , since that game granemore have lost their corner back [ discolated shoulder ] and full back [ broken leg ]
not looking good for us with the game v st pats next week  :( .
This was probably due to the death of our manager's mother at the weekend. It would appear that no one informed Granemore, etc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 01, 2009, 01:49:06 PM
There are bad referees in the county but most of them I'd imagine don't go into a game with a pre-conceived notion about 'putting manners' on certain players. Most of them are just poor decision makers. 

However Quigley has a big attitude problem and I've heard from a very reliable source that he has stated that he targets particular players and clubs that he dislikes. It was definitely true that Cross refused to partake in games that Quigley officiated at underage level and whilst that also shows the power and influence that Cross have, it also shows the ineptitude and blatant bias of Quigleys refereeing.

Whilst loyalty to a fellow clubman is to be expected I think most would reach the same verdict on this particular referee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 01, 2009, 02:05:01 PM
well i would certainly agree whole heartedly with what you said there yellow. This man have refereed a few of our games and has even had the audacity to come into the changing rooms after a game (which he sent two players off) to try and lecture the team. He was put out of the changing room that night. He has now these pre conceived ideas of how he is going to provoke players into a reaction. A ref should be completely impartial and as I'vedecided stated should play little or no role in the outcome of the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 01, 2009, 03:50:31 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on September 01, 2009, 01:26:04 PM
Quote from: torres on August 30, 2009, 06:39:10 PM
tir na og failed to show up for their game v granemore , ref was on the pitch .
thats no game for granemore since they played dromintee in the championship , since that game granemore have lost their corner back [ discolated shoulder ] and full back [ broken leg ]
not looking good for us with the game v st pats next week  :( .
This was probably due to the death of our manager's mother at the weekend. It would appear that no one informed Granemore, etc.
harold would you expect tirnanog to field against bhegan saturday then?could do with a favour! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 01, 2009, 04:21:56 PM
PINTS
How often have you seen Quigley refereeing within the last 3 years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 01, 2009, 04:28:12 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 01, 2009, 04:21:56 PM
PINTS
How often have you seen Quigley refereeing within the last 3 years.
Whats that got to do with anything?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 01, 2009, 04:40:28 PM
he must feel like lundy. he couldnt be that bad i,ve seen handle games ok. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on September 01, 2009, 09:17:36 PM
Junior Football Championship
Crossmaglen 1-12; O'Hanlon's 1-14

(Emmm, I might have left a letter out from the team on the left)

Hey BrokenCrossbar,

What gives? Are the B team that bad? Anyway, I'm gonna have to dine out on this result for at least a couple of hours. And I hear the Pass keeper saved a penalty. That lad shows promise (in what, I dont know)

Regards
Orior

PS. Let me repeat...

Junior Football Championship
Crossmaglen 1-12; O'Hanlon's 1-14

and again...

Junior Football Championship
Crossmaglen 1-12; O'Hanlon's 1-14

That will do for now.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on September 01, 2009, 09:38:02 PM
Thanks Hardstation. I think crossbar should be able to consume the information now  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 01, 2009, 09:53:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 01, 2009, 09:32:00 PM
Did I read that right?

CROSSMAGLEN 1-12
O'HANLON'S 1-14

???

Did they win a game or something :P  Well done to O'Hanlon's, I don't know what happened as I reckon they would have fancied themselves to go the whole way this year.  I don't know what sort of team they had out but I do know that they would have lost the likes of Frannie Hanratty from the previous round and he is worth 5-6 points alone at senior level never mind junior.  You have my full backing for the rest of the championship!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Erwin Rommel on September 01, 2009, 10:19:48 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 31, 2009, 10:47:14 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on August 31, 2009, 10:20:52 PM
How did he get the scoreboard turned off at half time??

He pulled out the plug- I have never seen a worse refeering performance- hes the ETU's wet dream

ITNOF - Luk what the cat dragged in.

Killeavie obviously had no match then? Thought you would have kept away from the board after that hammering from st Pats.

Gas listening to you going on about the ref when you never kicked a ball in yer life - stick to the darts - the buld is spot on  :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on September 02, 2009, 09:41:13 AM
heard last night grimley wasnt taking armagh job,confirmed this morning hes away to monaghan,big blow to armagh :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 02, 2009, 09:42:14 AM
Quote from: rootthemout on September 02, 2009, 09:41:13 AM
heard last night grimley wasnt taking armagh job,confirmed this morning hes away to monaghan,big blow to armagh :-\

It'll have to be an outside man IMO now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 02, 2009, 09:58:34 AM
If  anyone read 14th august edition of Gaelic life watch this space!! Nudie Hughes will be straight in for the Armagh job now...  :D :D :D 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 02, 2009, 10:21:59 AM
you might get a call up candyman  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 02, 2009, 07:04:18 PM
I believe it was just a few weeks ago that i backed Keady for the intermediate championship and was widely criticised so i belive cetain people may feel foolish now.

Keady won by playing football some of the cullaville players had no intention of playing football and were out to get physical and get physical they did but to no avail.

Con Nugent was absolutley outstanding in mid-field. Barry Hughes also came on and showed his class although he is old and dangerously slow he had the intelligence to outwit defenders with his trademark dummy solo.

honourable mention to Colum watters who was very good for cullaville but Con nugent was my man of the match.

Potiential county players i feel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 02, 2009, 08:15:33 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on September 02, 2009, 07:04:18 PM
I believe it was just a few weeks ago that i backed Keady for the intermediate championship and was widely criticised so i belive cetain people may feel foolish now.
You do realise they haven't won it yet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 02, 2009, 09:32:41 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 01, 2009, 04:28:12 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 01, 2009, 04:21:56 PM
PINTS
How often have you seen Quigley refereeing within the last 3 years.
Whats that got to do with anything?
Quite a lot, If you have only seen him once or twice i dont see how you are in a position to comment on his ability as a referee.

Just answer the question.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 02, 2009, 09:39:01 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 02, 2009, 09:32:41 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 01, 2009, 04:28:12 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 01, 2009, 04:21:56 PM
PINTS
How often have you seen Quigley refereeing within the last 3 years.
Whats that got to do with anything?
Quite a lot, If you have only seen him once or twice i dont see how you are in a position to comment on his ability as a referee.

Just answer the question.
I didnt comment on his ability as a referee. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 02, 2009, 10:14:15 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on September 02, 2009, 07:04:18 PM
I believe it was just a few weeks ago that i backed Keady for the intermediate championship and was widely criticised so i belive cetain people may feel foolish now.

Keady won by playing football some of the cullaville players had no intention of playing football and were out to get physical and get physical they did but to no avail.

Con Nugent was absolutley outstanding in mid-field. Barry Hughes also came on and showed his class although he is old and dangerously slow he had the intelligence to outwit defenders with his trademark dummy solo.

honourable mention to Colum watters who was very good for cullaville but Con nugent was my man of the match.

Potiential county players i feel

Did that fella score 1-10? :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on September 03, 2009, 01:31:54 PM
Any odds for the Cross V Ogs game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 03, 2009, 02:27:55 PM
cross 1/5 ogs 9/2   st.pats 4/5 granemore 7/4  harps 1/1 clans 2/1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 02:34:27 PM
No one seems to be talking about the games this weekend?

I reckon that the Harps will have enough to beat the Clans talent wise but they have to get their heads right.  I don't think Clans have anyone to compete with Harps around the middle and this is where the game will be won.

Ogs must be going in as slight favourites for the other game.  Even though Cross beat them twice in the league by all accounts the Ogs were the better team on both days and should have won only for some dodgy refereeing decisions.  They will have no lack of motivation and no lack of talent.  We are bound to be tired and maybe eyes elsewhere for the management with the whole Grimley thing blowing the county management open again.  Ogs by 3.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 03, 2009, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 02:34:27 PM
No one seems to be talking about the games this weekend?

I reckon that the Harps will have enough to beat the Clans talent wise but they have to get their heads right.  I don't think Clans have anyone to compete with Harps around the middle and this is where the game will be won.Ogs must be going in as slight favourites for the other game.  Even though Cross beat them twice in the league by all accounts the Ogs were the better team on both days and should have won only for some dodgy refereeing decisions.  They will have no lack of motivation and no lack of talent.  We are bound to be tired and maybe eyes elsewhere for the management with the whole Grimley thing blowing the county management open again.  Ogs by 3.


Illustrates the level of your ignorance my friend!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 02:43:02 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 03, 2009, 02:37:40 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 02:34:27 PM
No one seems to be talking about the games this weekend?

I reckon that the Harps will have enough to beat the Clans talent wise but they have to get their heads right.  I don't think Clans have anyone to compete with Harps around the middle and this is where the game will be won.Ogs must be going in as slight favourites for the other game.  Even though Cross beat them twice in the league by all accounts the Ogs were the better team on both days and should have won only for some dodgy refereeing decisions.  They will have no lack of motivation and no lack of talent.  We are bound to be tired and maybe eyes elsewhere for the management with the whole Grimley thing blowing the county management open again.  Ogs by 3.


Illustrates the level of your ignorance my friend!

Educate me then please.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 03, 2009, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 02:34:27 PM
No one seems to be talking about the games this weekend?

I reckon that the Harps will have enough to beat the Clans talent wise but they have to get their heads right.  I don't think Clans have anyone to compete with Harps around the middle and this is where the game will be won.

Ogs must be going in as slight favourites for the other game.  Even though Cross beat them twice in the league by all accounts the Ogs were the better team on both days and should have won only for some dodgy refereeing decisions.  They will have no lack of motivation and no lack of talent.  We are bound to be tired and maybe eyes elsewhere for the management with the whole Grimley thing blowing the county management open again.  Ogs by 3.

This is your yearly rant about how the Cross will be beat...blah blah blah and then you'll have a good laugh after Sat night when the Cross beats the Ogs by 3-4pts as per usual. We both know that Cross will win so no more BULLSHIT SAAAAN

As for the Clans...around the middle they would be as strong as the Harps, 2 big men there one @ 6"3 and the other at 6"1 with one being an ex county player so i'd imagine they'd hold their own around the middle. I reckon whoever wants it the most between Clans & Harps will win (as well as carrying a we bit of luck on the day)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 03, 2009, 04:28:10 PM
Im in agreement with BC1, Ogs by 3 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 03, 2009, 05:08:40 PM
The Ogs are 9/2 in Bar one, not exactly what I'd call favourites
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 03, 2009, 04:26:02 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 02:34:27 PM
No one seems to be talking about the games this weekend?

I reckon that the Harps will have enough to beat the Clans talent wise but they have to get their heads right.  I don't think Clans have anyone to compete with Harps around the middle and this is where the game will be won.

Ogs must be going in as slight favourites for the other game.  Even though Cross beat them twice in the league by all accounts the Ogs were the better team on both days and should have won only for some dodgy refereeing decisions.  They will have no lack of motivation and no lack of talent.  We are bound to be tired and maybe eyes elsewhere for the management with the whole Grimley thing blowing the county management open again.  Ogs by 3.

This is your yearly rant about how the Cross will be beat...blah blah blah and then you'll have a good laugh after Sat night when the Cross beats the Ogs by 3-4pts as per usual. We both know that Cross will win so no more BULLSHIT SAAAAN

As for the Clans...around the middle they would be as strong as the Harps, 2 big men there one @ 6"3 and the other at 6"1 with one being an ex county player so i'd imagine they'd hold their own around the middle. I reckon whoever wants it the most between Clans & Harps will win (as well as carrying a we bit of luck on the day)

Fair enough, I still think that Harps will be strong in this area and will want to make up for what they saw as a lost opportunity last year against us.  The one positive thing for Clans is that if they get on top of the Harps they can sometimes implode and Clans love rubbing it into teams in those circumstances.

As regards our game, I am not sure how we'll do.  I know there are injuries and one definite big name is out.  Ogs have nothing to lose and although they may not be bookies favourites this is their year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on September 03, 2009, 06:33:29 PM
There's as much chance of a Harps/Ogs double as there is of Paul Grimley managing Armagh next year :D

Come on the "blues" ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 03, 2009, 06:55:55 PM
I'd say all the teams in the qfs are quietly confident of victory, won't be too much between the sides tomorrow, Ogs certainly capable if they take their chances. Typical Cross will probably grind out the victory though  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 03, 2009, 07:01:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 02:34:27 PM
No one seems to be talking about the games this weekend?

I reckon that the Harps will have enough to beat the Clans talent wise but they have to get their heads right.  I don't think Clans have anyone to compete with Harps around the middle and this is where the game will be won.

Ogs must be going in as slight favourites for the other game.   Even though Cross beat them twice in the league by all accounts the Ogs were the better team on both days and should have won only for some dodgy refereeing decisions.  They will have no lack of motivation and no lack of talent.  We are bound to be tired and maybe eyes elsewhere for the management with the whole Grimley thing blowing the county management open again.  Ogs by 3.

Would you care to give me odds greater than 'Evens' on Cross then and I'll have a large investment. Let me know if your interested but I'll not be holding my breath. Or maybe your just full of hot air.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 07:08:48 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 03, 2009, 07:01:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 02:34:27 PM
No one seems to be talking about the games this weekend?

I reckon that the Harps will have enough to beat the Clans talent wise but they have to get their heads right.  I don't think Clans have anyone to compete with Harps around the middle and this is where the game will be won.

Ogs must be going in as slight favourites for the other game.   Even though Cross beat them twice in the league by all accounts the Ogs were the better team on both days and should have won only for some dodgy refereeing decisions.  They will have no lack of motivation and no lack of talent.  We are bound to be tired and maybe eyes elsewhere for the management with the whole Grimley thing blowing the county management open again.  Ogs by 3.

Would you care to give me odds greater than 'Evens' on Cross then and I'll have a large investment. Let me know if your interested but I'll not be holding my breath. Or maybe your just full of hot air.

Maybe not bookies favourites but the bookies sometimes get them wrong.  There must be a small bit of pressure on them though as it is expected that they will win it this year.  This really is the best chance they have ever had, Dromintee gone, Clans rebuilding, Granemore and St Pat's not at the level yet, Harps still have question marks on them, Cross on the wain, if Ogs don't so it this year will they ever?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 03, 2009, 07:12:20 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 07:08:48 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 03, 2009, 07:01:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 02:34:27 PM
No one seems to be talking about the games this weekend?

I reckon that the Harps will have enough to beat the Clans talent wise but they have to get their heads right.  I don't think Clans have anyone to compete with Harps around the middle and this is where the game will be won.

Ogs must be going in as slight favourites for the other game.   Even though Cross beat them twice in the league by all accounts the Ogs were the better team on both days and should have won only for some dodgy refereeing decisions.  They will have no lack of motivation and no lack of talent.  We are bound to be tired and maybe eyes elsewhere for the management with the whole Grimley thing blowing the county management open again.  Ogs by 3.

Would you care to give me odds greater than 'Evens' on Cross then and I'll have a large investment. Let me know if your interested but I'll not be holding my breath. Or maybe your just full of hot air.

Maybe not bookies favourites but the bookies sometimes get them wrong.  There must be a small bit of pressure on them though as it is expected that they will win it this year.   This really is the best chance they have ever had, Dromintee gone, Clans rebuilding, Granemore and St Pat's not at the level yet, Harps still have question marks on them, Cross on the wain, if Ogs don't so it this year will they ever?

Your convincing no-one. Cross by between 8-12 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 07:14:57 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 03, 2009, 07:12:20 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 07:08:48 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 03, 2009, 07:01:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 02:34:27 PM
No one seems to be talking about the games this weekend?

I reckon that the Harps will have enough to beat the Clans talent wise but they have to get their heads right.  I don't think Clans have anyone to compete with Harps around the middle and this is where the game will be won.

Ogs must be going in as slight favourites for the other game.   Even though Cross beat them twice in the league by all accounts the Ogs were the better team on both days and should have won only for some dodgy refereeing decisions.  They will have no lack of motivation and no lack of talent.  We are bound to be tired and maybe eyes elsewhere for the management with the whole Grimley thing blowing the county management open again.  Ogs by 3.

Would you care to give me odds greater than 'Evens' on Cross then and I'll have a large investment. Let me know if your interested but I'll not be holding my breath. Or maybe your just full of hot air.

Maybe not bookies favourites but the bookies sometimes get them wrong.  There must be a small bit of pressure on them though as it is expected that they will win it this year.   This really is the best chance they have ever had, Dromintee gone, Clans rebuilding, Granemore and St Pat's not at the level yet, Harps still have question marks on them, Cross on the wain, if Ogs don't so it this year will they ever?

Your convincing no-one. Cross by between 8-12 points.

Cross don't do big wins generally,  if they win it will be by an odd score, but I don't think so.  They won't have anyone capable of marking Clarke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on September 03, 2009, 07:23:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 07:14:57 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 03, 2009, 07:12:20 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 07:08:48 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 03, 2009, 07:01:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 02:34:27 PM
No one seems to be talking about the games this weekend?

I reckon that the Harps will have enough to beat the Clans talent wise but they have to get their heads right.  I don't think Clans have anyone to compete with Harps around the middle and this is where the game will be won.

Ogs must be going in as slight favourites for the other game.   Even though Cross beat them twice in the league by all accounts the Ogs were the better team on both days and should have won only for some dodgy refereeing decisions.  They will have no lack of motivation and no lack of talent.  We are bound to be tired and maybe eyes elsewhere for the management with the whole Grimley thing blowing the county management open again.  Ogs by 3.

Would you care to give me odds greater than 'Evens' on Cross then and I'll have a large investment. Let me know if your interested but I'll not be holding my breath. Or maybe your just full of hot air.

Maybe not bookies favourites but the bookies sometimes get them wrong.  There must be a small bit of pressure on them though as it is expected that they will win it this year.   This really is the best chance they have ever had, Dromintee gone, Clans rebuilding, Granemore and St Pat's not at the level yet, Harps still have question marks on them, Cross on the wain, if Ogs don't so it this year will they ever?

Your convincing no-one. Cross by between 8-12 points.

Cross don't do big wins generally,  if they win it will be by an odd score, but I don't think so.  They won't have anyone capable of marking Clarke.

They will do it by committee and I will be amazed if Clarke is still upright at the end of the game, I have a funny feeling he will spend a lot of time on his arse in this one.

Cross by four points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 03, 2009, 08:26:44 PM
I understand why you siad what you said BC1 Harps midfiled is def their strenght and if allowed it will def influence the game, however I have serious doubts regarding the mentality of the lads concerned if its put up to them, in fact I have the same doubts about the Harps in general. If Clans get a good start and settle down I think they will run out convincing winners.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 03, 2009, 09:19:43 PM
for wat its worth lads clans play the type of game harps struggle to cope with fast movement and support play (big defeats at home 2 w`cross and maghery ) they suit the more physical game like cross in semi last year. however if their big players play well (holmes,cv,nippy) and joe quigley fit (he wont miss many frees) they should run out handy winners 4,5 points. asfor the cross/ogs game should be a cracker and wouldnt want to miss it. ogs will be well up for it as they owe cross 1 they will feel,but when people start talking about how a team are close to beating cross in c`ship thats when their at their best (dromintee,clans). was a bit of talk from cruppen about being the next team to take cross because they won u21 last 2 years and cross went out in league to prove a point and look what happened. cross by 6. 
ps BC1 KNOWS THIS THATS WHY HE TALKING OGS UP.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: curvey on September 03, 2009, 10:23:28 PM
We all know what BCB is at, he fools no-one. As for the "we don't do big wins" ask 80% of Div 1 this year about heavy defeats to Cross ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gotthereb4u on September 04, 2009, 12:14:58 AM
clans hav no real county standard players, harps hav a few. There massive round the middle and clans simply arent physical enough or gutsy enough to live with them. As 4 cross ogs, cross are simply umbeatable. They will always always scrape by
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 04, 2009, 09:33:44 AM
Quote from: gotthereb4u on September 04, 2009, 12:14:58 AM
clans hav no real county standard players, harps hav a few. There massive round the middle and clans simply arent physical enough or gutsy enough to live with them. As 4 cross ogs, cross are simply umbeatable. They will always always scrape by

And what makes you think the Clans are gonna lump every ball down the middle to the opposition's strengths (as you put it). what about kickouts to the wings, what about short kickouts :o there's more to football than route one saan ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 04, 2009, 10:29:51 AM
Quote from: gotthereb4u on September 04, 2009, 12:14:58 AM
clans hav no real county standard players, harps hav a few. There massive round the middle and clans simply arent physical enough or gutsy enough to live with them. As 4 cross ogs, cross are simply umbeatable. They will always always scrape by


Your obviously one of these lads who looks at a teamsheet and if theres no hollywood names then the team has no chance. Thankfully Gaelic football has more to it than that. If theres 15 lads who take the field prepared to fight hardest then it doesnt matter if they have county players or not. P.s I wouldnt be that impressed by what you would call the Harps county standard players. They wouldn be the type to have me shaking in my boots now!! This is becoming a more interesting game by the day - bring it on! (It will prob turn out to be crap now!!)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 04, 2009, 12:12:00 PM
where and what time is the clans v harps game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 04, 2009, 01:41:37 PM
Sat 12th Sept @Athletic Grounds 7 bells
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 04, 2009, 02:08:51 PM
Why did they not have a double header this week with the two cities teams at least those travelling long distances would have been able to take in a few games

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 04, 2009, 03:04:25 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on September 04, 2009, 02:08:51 PM
Why did they not have a double header this week with the two cities teams at least those travelling long distances would have been able to take in a few games

Probably because our wonderful new county ground only has one set of changing rooms  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 04, 2009, 03:28:27 PM
Any word of the refs for the quarter finals????????????????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 04, 2009, 04:04:20 PM
bubbles murray for the big one what do u think will he be strong enough????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 04, 2009, 05:41:42 PM
Minor Draw, fixtures to be played Sat 26th Sept.

Maghery v Harps
St John's v Mullaghbawn
Madden v Cullyhanna
Sarsfields v Ogs
Clans v Nab
Grange v Cross
Forkhill v Killeavey
Tir na nOg v St Peters
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on September 04, 2009, 05:55:23 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 04, 2009, 05:41:42 PM
Minor Draw, fixtures to be played Sat 26th Sept.

Maghery v Harps
St John's v Mullaghbawn
Madden v Cullyhanna
Sarsfields v Ogs
Clans v Nab
Grange v Cross
Forkhill v Killeavey
Tir na nOg v St Peters

I hear the minors are flying for the Harps, hope they go well in the championsip.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 04, 2009, 05:59:08 PM
Peadar Toal back in training with Harps.  Watching training last night I realised that we could have 6 or more players in contention for the Clans game that did not play v the Nab.

Clans men seemed to be shocking easy to get annoyed.  It's a game that both teams will undoubtedly fancy their chances.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 04, 2009, 08:08:20 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 04, 2009, 05:59:08 PM
Peadar Toal back in training with Harps.  Watching training last night I realised that we could have 6 or more players in contention for the Clans game that did not play v the Nab.



Who are they Benny?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 04, 2009, 08:11:38 PM
3 boys that were in the states, Peadar, Philly McKinney, Beefer.  Also think Jungle McKee and Kevin Daly were injured for the Nab game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on September 04, 2009, 08:15:09 PM
Mark McCoy would make 7.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 04, 2009, 09:52:00 PM
What was the craic with Toal. Was he one of the ones who was away??????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 05, 2009, 02:47:35 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 04, 2009, 05:59:08 PM
Peadar Toal back in training with Harps.  Watching training last night I realised that we could have 6 or more players in contention for the Clans game that did not play v the Nab.

Clans men seemed to be shocking easy to get annoyed.  It's a game that both teams will undoubtedly fancy their chances.

who's mark mccoy?
three that where away would be marty mccoy, mark mcconville and kevin kelly as far as im aware. all good players and would probably start if they were there all year. however is the manager just going to say to the boys that have been training all year, thanks for the committment all year but these boys that are back from the states are going to start the biggest game of the year so far? even worse, sorry but sean morrison walked off the pitch, turned his back on the team when the chips where down but now i think where gonna start him in the biggest game of the year so far. OR EVEN WORSE, ach look theres peader, the lad we made vice captain at the start of the year but then decided he couldnt be assed training but has decided to come back the week before the championship, we'l give him a game in the biggest match of the year so far???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on September 05, 2009, 09:51:42 AM
Pearse - Mark McCoy is another of the successful minor tem from last year and had been playing great stuff before an injury. But he's back now too. He's a cousin of Martin. Thanks for the analysis of our team. I'll pass that on to the new management so they can act on it. Thanks again, and all the very best in your match this evening.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 05, 2009, 05:26:28 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D :D



Then again the new manager hasn't been there all year so he can maybe say that he has inheritted a different squad so that is what he has to pick from and things that happened with the previous manager and months doesn't count. clean slate i believe it is called.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bigfrank on September 05, 2009, 07:32:25 PM
any word on cross???johnny murtagh home from states for game,anyone know if he playin or sub???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 05, 2009, 08:05:37 PM
4-2 to ogs with 10 mins gone in 2nd half, im 2 miles away and iv already heard the ref is giving cross everything, who would want to be the ref to finish the cross reign? Not good for the career
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Madge on September 05, 2009, 08:19:52 PM
7-4 Ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Madge on September 05, 2009, 08:23:25 PM
7-4 is a final score. Cross are beat!

The king is dead... Long live the king.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on September 05, 2009, 08:27:00 PM
Now there is a shock...thought i would see that for another 10 years,,,  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 05, 2009, 08:27:51 PM
Cant say I'm shocked, bound to happen some time. 

Well done to the ogs, deserve to go on a win it now.

Cross will be back next year no doubt.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 05, 2009, 08:29:14 PM
What a result!

Raging I sat at home to watch the soccer now. Blows the championship wide open. Obviously Ógs are strong favourites but plenty of team will fancy their chances.

Fair play to Cross - great champions for a long long time but its positive for Armagh football for someone to beat them. Stephenite will be a happy man as well!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 05, 2009, 08:34:05 PM
cross were great champions, congrats to the ogs, they'll be hard to beat, dont think they deserve to win anything yet though, rest of the teams will be licking their lips.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 05, 2009, 08:36:10 PM
Even better... Ballyhegan beat Portydown by 2 points this evening! Think we're getting the points for their no show last week too! 4 big points for the depleted Davitts!

Congrats to the Og's though... they'll likely get beat in the next round now!  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 05, 2009, 08:42:21 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on September 05, 2009, 08:36:10 PM
Even better... Ballyhegan beat Portydown by 2 points this evening! Think we're getting the points for their no show last week too! 4 big points for the depleted Davitts!

Congrats to the Og's though... they'll likely get beat in the next round now!  ::)
Even better again for yous we were beat tonight. 

I can't see any way back for us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 05, 2009, 08:42:27 PM
Congrats to the ogs. great news for football in armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tyrones own on September 05, 2009, 08:42:34 PM
Jaysus...Who'd a thunk, fair play to the Og's 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bcarrier on September 05, 2009, 08:45:55 PM
Deserves a mention on main board. End of (this)  line for greatest GAA club team ever.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 05, 2009, 09:19:40 PM
Cross played none and missed a bucket of frees. bubbles was poor and favoured them for the whole game, Ogs had a stone wall penalty turned down. DD for ogs had oisin in his back pocket for the whole game, no12 mcmanus was everywhere and its between those two for motm. wonder will cross' oul hands call it a day after tonight  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 05, 2009, 09:32:51 PM
Congratulations to Ogs.
We missed a lot of chances but were well beat in the end.
No excuses.
Our lads took the defeat on the chin and i am very proud of them.
Best of luck to Ogs in the next round.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 05, 2009, 09:50:25 PM
well done ogs great performance more than 3 points a better side. ogs penalty turned down but not even a free in he gave a free out the whole place was laughing even croos ones. donal hadnt the balls to take oisin off he had a stinker even missin 21 yrd frees. if i were ogs i wouldnt get to carried away how many times has a team beaten the clear favourites and not went on to win that particular cup/c`ship etc. fair play cross all went to ogs after game and shook hands and wished all the best true champions and have been and still are the benchmark for the whole of the county. ps god help the team who draw them in 1st round next year. :P ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on September 05, 2009, 09:55:26 PM
Obviously the foundation for this defeat by Cross was their B team getting beat by Poyntzpass.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 05, 2009, 09:56:25 PM
Quote from: Orior on September 05, 2009, 09:55:26 PM
Obviously the foundation for this defeat by Cross was their B team getting beat by Poyntzpass.

And their C team getting beat by Cullyhanna  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 05, 2009, 10:01:24 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 05, 2009, 08:27:51 PM
Cant say I'm shocked, bound to happen some time. 

Well done to the ogs, deserve to go on a win it now.

Cross will be back next year no doubt.


TBH pints I do doubt they will be, they looked a very old and jaded team tonight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 05, 2009, 10:19:15 PM
Pearse Ogs thoroughly deserved their victory tonight and it would be an injustice for people to say that the cross are just sick of winning and that was why they won. They fully deserved the victory they out fought the cross in every department and the cross had no answer to them. The subs they brought on had no effect and the cathal short card is one that i think we have definetly seen the end of (no offence Cathal). Couldn't understand the reasoning behind the bellew sub and i agree that Murtagh hadn't the taws to take Mc Conville off. Special praise must go to the ogs back line  them lads were superb.

On the ref i actually thought the ref had a decent enough game. Fair enough he blew up for over carrying a few times but he did this for both teams to be fair. On the penalty incident my verdict was that a Og's lad was going through and the next thing he was on the ground and i don't think he tripped over himself so possibly this call was wrong.

Tonight belongs to the ogs they should enjoy it but they have won nothing yet This result will give every club in the county a massive boast especially those left in the senior championship.


Getting away from the game i saw a girl running acoss the pitch at Ht and wondered what she was doing onlyto see her emerge  with two medics. Now I take it someone in the crowd had taken ill.Now the county board will have to answer the question as to why there were no stewards to help the girl and she had to get help herself. I hope whoever it was is ok.

Also we had the farce of a pith invasion of children at HT. The subs can't get a warm up but childen can run on and play hurling etc a disgrace.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 05, 2009, 10:19:29 PM
Funny game, low scoring but not unenjoyable.

Thought Ogs just about deserved their half time lead, but in the second half Cross were the better team. Cross will feel they kicked it away, they must've hit 15+ wides, including some from Aaron and Oisin that were very uncharacteristic.

Ogs played smart football though, didn't panic and took their opportunities to lie down when they came  ;)

Wouldn't be rushing out to put money on Ogs to win the whole thing yet though, they've no midfield so will always be vulnerable. Their win tonight was all the more astonishing considering Cross annihilated them around the middle.

Cross will be back surely but tonight perhaps provided a wee bit more evidence for what many have been suggesting for a while - that their younger players aren't nearly as good as the men they're replacing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on September 05, 2009, 10:29:28 PM
Photos from game

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157622132856617/detail/

Ogs were by far the better side in the first half with what appeared to be a certain penalty not being given, Cross controlled first 20 minutes of the second half but Ogs then came back and I thought more than deserved the win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 05, 2009, 10:45:52 PM
Well done Ogs, they played with championship fervour throughout. Cross might have got going in the early part of the second half, but the had some poor wides. You'd expect Oisin, AK, and TK to plot those frees.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on September 05, 2009, 11:26:03 PM
Anybody got starting line-ups from 2nites game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on September 05, 2009, 11:39:39 PM
Amazing run by Cross. Well done to Pearse Ogs. Hope Pearse Ogs win it now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Celt_Man on September 05, 2009, 11:42:31 PM
Wow, always gonna happen but mad to think that for the first time in 15 years Cross won't have any championship football in late September - October... 
As a matter of interest, what stage is that the championship at in Armagh and will the defeat of this amazing club team be a benefit to club football in Armagh in general???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 05, 2009, 11:48:12 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on September 05, 2009, 11:26:03 PM
Anybody got starting line-ups from 2nites game?

My effort, hope not too many are wrong. Wouldn't know all the Ogs lads.

Cross
1. Hearty
2. Carragher
3. B McKeown
4. P McKeown
5. A Kernan
6. P Kernan
7. Donaldson
8. McEntee
9. McEntee
10. Ahern
11. McNamee
12. Cunningham
13. Clarke
14. T Kernan
15. McConville

Ogs
1. McKinney
2. McCoy
3.
4. Mallon
5. P Duffy
6. Rafferty
7.
8. Moore
9. A Duffy
10. Shorty Clarke
11. R Clarke
12. McManus
13.
14. S Clarke
15.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on September 06, 2009, 12:20:34 AM
Can add Parkinson was no. 3 and Conor Clarke at 15. Ciaran Hughes played at 10.Not an Ogs man so not sure of other two.

Was a very poor game of football with Oisin having as bad a game as I have seen in a long time. But then he has had so many good days he was due a bad one! Ogs full backline were superb and never gave the Cross forwards any room.

For Cross I thought only Paul Kernan and one of the McEntees(could not tell which one) had fair games and Jamie Clarke tried very hard up front. The rest were below their normal standard but much of this had to do with the effort the Ogs were putting in.

For the Ogs I think it is hard to pick out players but from a county perspective McKinney realy played well in goals and looked alot more secure than Hearty ever did. Although he was well marshalled I think Ronan Clarke had two key moments which swung the game the Ogs way. First when the Ogs were struggling in the second have he got a ball, went on a run and scored a great point which let to a couple of more scores. Then near the end with Cross looking a goal he made a great catch under his own crossbar. Great to see a great player standing up to be counted when needed.

Have to say I thought the Ref was fair enough - apart from his interpretation of overcarrying. He did miss a clear cut foul in the incident that people are suggesting was a penalty, although it may have been outside the square.

Finally, I think congratulations are due to Cross on their magnificent run and they did lead  an example to all clubs. At the end of the game it was noticeable how so many of their players went out of their way to congratulate the Ogs players. Champs to the end.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 06, 2009, 12:35:16 AM
Quote from: Celt_Man on September 05, 2009, 11:42:31 PM
Wow, always gonna happen but mad to think that for the first time in 15 years Cross won't have any championship football in late September - October... 
As a matter of interest, what stage is that the championship at in Armagh and will the defeat of this amazing club team be a benefit to club football in Armagh in general???

My personal view is that it will do wonders for Armagh club football. Our championship (and recently league) had become nothing more than a procession for Crossmaglen. Crowds were poor and interest was low enough and people felt that all team were playing for was the right to beaten by Cross in the final. Division 1 teams were dropping down to intermediate because a senior championship run wasn't very appealing when a hiding was all you were likely to get at the end of it.

Team lacked belief. THe middle part of this decade saw a fine Dromintee team, probably a team capable of challenging most sides in Ulster, beaten time and time again by Crossmaglen. By last year they'd pretty much thrown in the towel and went out with barely a whimper to Cross. The biggest problem is that they simply did not really believe they could beat Cross. This year they exited tamely int eh first round without some of their best players in the country. And could you blame the players? Why give up a summer in America or Australia to take a beating from Crossmaglen.

This result tonight shows that Cross are beatable. No excuses, few players missing, Ógs seem to have beaten Cross simply by being a better team on the night. Now no doubt Cross will be back and they'll probably win more county titles than anybody else in the next decade. But they won't win them all and tonight was the crucial match in ensuring that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 06, 2009, 01:07:15 AM
Good stuff emain you are on the ball
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: under the bar on September 06, 2009, 01:32:41 AM
Now the hoo-doo is broken you will probably see a clutch of teams win the championship over the next few years.  So many teams believed they were beat before a ball was thrown in past years that Cross could probably have played their ladies team in the first half of many games.

Super run but the grinders have finally succumbed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stephenite on September 06, 2009, 03:28:57 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 05, 2009, 08:29:14 PM
What a result!

Raging I sat at home to watch the soccer now. Blows the championship wide open. Obviously Ógs are strong favourites but plenty of team will fancy their chances.

Fair play to Cross - great champions for a long long time but its positive for Armagh football for someone to beat them. Stephenite will be a happy man as well!

:)

Hats off to Crossmaglen though - to do what they have done in this era is a superb achievement.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on September 06, 2009, 04:06:54 AM
The best team won and my personal moment of the match was Stephen 'long face' Kernan getting getting dogs abuse from 85 % of the crowd for disputing a correct umpires decision- he is hated.

ps its wide open now lads - its anyones championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 06, 2009, 07:07:47 AM
Quote from: AFS on September 05, 2009, 11:48:12 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on September 05, 2009, 11:26:03 PM
Anybody got starting line-ups from 2nites game?

My effort, hope not too many are wrong. Wouldn't know all the Ogs lads.

Cross
1. Hearty
2. Carragher
3. B McKeown
4. P McKeown
5. A Kernan
6. P Kernan
7. Donaldson
8. McEntee
9. McEntee
10. Ahern
11. McNamee
12. Cunningham
13. Clarke
14. T Kernan
15. McConville

Ogs
1. McKinney
2. McCoy
3.
4. Mallon
5. P Duffy
6. Rafferty
7.
8. Moore
9. A Duffy
10. Shorty Clarke
11. R Clarke
12. McManus
13.
14. S Clarke
15.

7 was Darren someone and 13 was Marc Cullen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 06, 2009, 09:17:16 AM
7. Darren Davidson.  10. Kieran Hughes, Shorty Clarke was 15 I think.

Fair play to the Ogs, no harm to Cross but I was happy to see them finally beaten in Armagh.  Interesting Championship now, but the Ogs looked focused after the game and it's theirs to lose now.

I was suprised at how some the younger ogs lads competed.  Having saw young Parkinson playing B football during the year (and not very well) I thought he was in for a torrid night, but he had a stormer, ditto for young Davidson who suprised me as well. The Ogs had a clear game plan and didn't deviate from it, that and a bit of luck saw them through.

Does open it the Championship up a bit, but if Cross had've come through we wouldn't be saying that.  The winners of tonight's game could have a big say yet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 06, 2009, 09:29:47 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 02:34:27 PM


Ogs must be going in as slight favourites for the other game.  Even though Cross beat them twice in the league by all accounts the Ogs were the better team on both days and should have won only for some dodgy refereeing decisions.  They will have no lack of motivation and no lack of talent.  We are bound to be tired and maybe eyes elsewhere for the management with the whole Grimley thing blowing the county management open again. Ogs by 3.

Great shout BCB, you called the game perfectly  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 06, 2009, 10:09:16 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 06, 2009, 09:29:47 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 02:34:27 PM


Ogs must be going in as slight favourites for the other game.  Even though Cross beat them twice in the league by all accounts the Ogs were the better team on both days and should have won only for some dodgy refereeing decisions.  They will have no lack of motivation and no lack of talent.  We are bound to be tired and maybe eyes elsewhere for the management with the whole Grimley thing blowing the county management open again. Ogs by 3.

Great shout BCB, you called the game perfectly  ;)

Just how I saw things SJ.  First of all, well doe to the Ogs.  It had to happen and it was only ever going to be against Ogs or Clans in my view as no harmt to the other teams they were either not good enough or didn't believe tehy were good enough.

Hard luck to our lads.  It was amazing and jsut a pity that the outright consecutive record coul;dn't be achieved, have to friggin share it with the Western wannabes :P

To the begrudgers who try to run us down, f**k you all >:(  We did it and you don't win 13 championships by grinding out results.  To the Bellaghy man on the thread in the main page grow a pair and get over it, I palyed against you boys often enough to know that football wasn't the only thing that won your games.  At least you fellow clubman on here Drumanee knows what football is and respects us, do you even know what a ball is. We will be back and will be favourites for next years championship no matter what happens the rest of the year.  There is too much talent there and the extended break now for all the players will make them well rested for the first time in 13 years expect a backlash next year is what I believe.

To the Ogs it is only the quarter final, 2 hours football yet and there are at least 2 teams that I think could beat you on any given day.  I would like you to win it out as you deserve it probably more than any team in Armagh bar Dromintee just keep your heads focused and the drive inside.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 06, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
It could also work wonders for the county team.  The likes of Paul and Tony Kernan, Jamie Clarke, Paul McKeown and Titch can now all get a McKenna Cup and a league campaign behind them next Winter / Spring.
As opposed to the norm of them being thrown straight into Championship football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on September 06, 2009, 10:36:57 AM
Match report and reaction to Crossmaglen's first defeat in Armagh SFC in 13 years

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Crossmaglen-fall-in-SFC-for-first-time-since-1995.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on September 06, 2009, 11:34:06 AM
Fair play to the Ogs, best team won on the night, but credit must go to Cross as well for the dignity they showed in defeat. I guess you only learn to appreciate this when you've won so much.  It would have been special for them to have done 14 in a row and set a new record which probably would never have been broken, but that sport and everything comes to an end at some stage.  They are a specail bunch of lads which have been great for Armagh football & I doubt if Armagh would have won the All-Ireland if it weren't for the Cross lads.
They can hold their heads high cause they owe nobody nothing & it's been a coaster ride these last 14 years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: OFF THE SHOULDER on September 06, 2009, 11:46:43 AM
I take it you are one of those people who thinks everybody deserves a game. The fact is if you don't have the talent you don't win games. YOU SOUND LIKE A BENCHWARMER!! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 06, 2009, 11:51:40 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 06, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
It could also work wonders for the county team.  The likes of Paul and Tony Kernan, Jamie Clarke, Paul McKeown and Titch can now all get a McKenna Cup and a league campaign behind them next Winter / Spring.
As opposed to the norm of them being thrown straight into Championship football.


From what ive seen last night and this year some of those lads are nowhere near county standard! Tony Kernan is another charlie vernon - overrated as f**k!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on September 06, 2009, 11:53:52 AM
Quote from: OFF THE SHOULDER on September 06, 2009, 11:46:43 AM
I take it you are one of those people who thinks everybody deserves a game. The fact is if you don't have the talent you don't win games. YOU SOUND LIKE A BENCHWARMER!!
class post alright. Just a twisted Clans man, who never got the chance to beat them & never will. :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 06, 2009, 11:57:12 AM
Quote from: OFF THE SHOULDER on September 06, 2009, 11:46:43 AM
I take it you are one of those people who thinks everybody deserves a game. The fact is if you don't have the talent you don't win games. YOU SOUND LIKE A BENCHWARMER!! 

Good man, or should I say woman going by the refernece to a dress in your handle, a wee off the shoulder number :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 06, 2009, 11:58:51 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 06, 2009, 10:09:16 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 06, 2009, 09:29:47 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 03, 2009, 02:34:27 PM


Ogs must be going in as slight favourites for the other game.  Even though Cross beat them twice in the league by all accounts the Ogs were the better team on both days and should have won only for some dodgy refereeing decisions.  They will have no lack of motivation and no lack of talent.  We are bound to be tired and maybe eyes elsewhere for the management with the whole Grimley thing blowing the county management open again. Ogs by 3.

Great shout BCB, you called the game perfectly  ;)

Just how I saw things SJ.  First of all, well doe to the Ogs.  It had to happen and it was only ever going to be against Ogs or Clans in my view as no harmt to the other teams they were either not good enough or didn't believe tehy were good enough.

Hard luck to our lads.  It was amazing and jsut a pity that the outright consecutive record coul;dn't be achieved, have to friggin share it with the Western wannabes :P

To the begrudgers who try to run us down, f**k you all >:(  We did it and you don't win 13 championships by grinding out results.  To the Bellaghy man on the thread in the main page grow a pair and get over it, I palyed against you boys often enough to know that football wasn't the only thing that won your games.  At least you fellow clubman on here Drumanee knows what football is and respects us, do you even know what a ball is. We will be back and will be favourites for next years championship no matter what happens the rest of the year.  There is too much talent there and the extended break now for all the players will make them well rested for the first time in 13 years expect a backlash next year is what I believe.

To the Ogs it is only the quarter final, 2 hours football yet and there are at least 2 teams that I think could beat you on any given day.  I would like you to win it out as you deserve it probably more than any team in Armagh bar Dromintee just keep your heads focused and the drive inside.


Correct BC1 those lads have a room full of medals to help comfort them through this. They have set a record that will be extremely difficult to match however i couldnt be more glad if id won the lotto or banged Brian Lennons' wife! And I mean that in the nicest way casue Armagh football will be alot more exiting now that the air of invincibility surrounding cross is busted. This years championship will be very intruiging now with 4 teams capable of winning it rather than one. Im not sure Cross will be back next year as raging as people think, I think what you saw last night was a punch drunk boxer with none of the answers that usually came so effortlessly. They might win it next year but id say that will be that!

To the Ogs lads yous were tremendous! Yous put in the performance that I dreamed my own club would put in one day so well done. Your defence was outstanding and won yous the game. Be careful though cause the pressure is on yous now to repeat that performance another twice and yous will be concerned at only scoring 7 points. Is beating cross enough for some of your lads?? Maybe....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 06, 2009, 12:09:35 PM
Great performance last night but its only a quarter final, lookin forward to the rest of the championship now and hope to see a good game tonight in the athletic grounds
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Madge on September 06, 2009, 12:19:16 PM
Who scored the points for both teams?

What subs did Cross bring on?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onlooker on September 06, 2009, 12:59:38 PM
What an achievement by Cross to win 13 County titles in a row and 4 All Irelands.  Unbeaten in the Armagh Championship since 1995 is unbelievable and will never be equalled in any county IMO.   But it is always great to see new teams winning titles and it will be interesting to see how the new Armagh Champions fare in the Ulster Club Championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 06, 2009, 01:31:51 PM
well done to the ogs  ;D cant see anyone beating them  :( OGS V ST PATS FINAL .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 06, 2009, 01:34:40 PM
Quote from: torres on September 06, 2009, 01:31:51 PM
well done to the ogs  ;D cant see anyone beating them  :( OGS V ST PATS FINAL .

you counting yourselves out of the race torres,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: loughshore lad on September 06, 2009, 02:42:51 PM
Judging by those photos on flicker no 10 for pearse og was Kieran Hughes who was wing back for Armagh in 2002?  What age is he now?  I always thought he was a good robust player.

Al I right in assuming Stephen Kernan didnt start for Cross?  Not dishing the lads as I wouldnt have seen enough to pass comment on his footballing ability but I find it strange he is on the county panel but is not an automatic starter for cross regardlees of how good they are.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: torres on September 06, 2009, 01:31:51 PM
well done to the ogs  ;D cant see anyone beating them  :( OGS V ST PATS FINAL .
Firstly id like to say last nyts match wasn't the best i've ever seen both teams play, cross only managed 1 point in nearly 45mins of play and that in no way reflects the ogs defence, I thot they struggled to work the ball out.. But that was just my observation of the game!! U cannot rule out the Armagh harps for the final/winning.. Big enough task next sat nyt, think it will defo be a better match than last nyt! And I am almost certain granemore will beat st oats this evening.. Going by there last 2 performances against kileavy they are defo nothing to fear by any  side left in the championship!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 06, 2009, 02:55:22 PM
I also fancy Granemore to beat St Pats, the championship has been blowin wide open now, the Ogs should go ahead and win in it, ut there a couple of potential banana skins left
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 03:03:21 PM
I reckon granemore will beat st pats by 4 points.. The ogs seem to have the ryt frame of mind at the moment.. Well most of them do!! Suposedly away to a spa retreat today for relaxation, altho I'm not sure if the whole panel will attend as I'm sure any Armagh person nos there are a few of the lads like to celebrate it will be there downfall if they have treated there win as there championship final!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 06, 2009, 03:06:31 PM
Well done to the Ogs on putting an end to the run of consecutie county titles from the greatest club team ever. I thought it was a good game of football and proved that it doesn't take a bucketload of scores to make for a good contest. Ogs were cleaned out at midfield but there full back line was outstanding and their strong running and support play tore the Cross defence apart on occasion. I thought the referee had a great game and whilst the Ogs were refused a stone wall penalty and a baffling disallowed point he was at least consistent overall.

I think what is evident from a Cross point of view is that whilst they have a lot of talented younger players they will not have the mental toughness and leadershp of the likes of McEntees, Bellew, Donaldson, McConville etc. These men were the cornerstone of the team and will not be replaced easily. The McEntees and Clarke were probably Cross's best players yesterday and too many of the younger lads huffed and puffed. I've seen Tony Kernan oftn enough now to believe that he is not a county standard footballer.

When the chips were down and Ogs needed a score it was Clarke who came up with the goods and it was he who showed true leadership when it was needed. Hopefully now the Ogs will go on and win it and if they keep their feet on the ground there is no club left with the players to beat them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 03:11:44 PM
The only kernan that is county standard is aaron... The rest of them r only on the county sqaud because their father still has a big say!! Stephen kernan is tottally useless can't make cross team but is still a "county player"???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 06, 2009, 03:46:33 PM
the teams left in the c'ship,

div 1: Pearse Ogs, St Pats, Clan Na Gael,

div 2: Granemore, Whitecross, Clan Eireann, Harps,

the gulf aint that big between the divisions, and i expect The Ogs to be the only Div 1 team left after all the Q/F are played
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 04:15:47 PM
Harps v Ogs final this year... Will be brilliant for Armagh! Altho I defo think the harps can take the championship this year!! Cheated out of it last year against cross.. Armagh Harps senior champions???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on September 06, 2009, 04:28:13 PM
I believe Stephen Kernan was injured and not togged out. He had a knee operation earlier in the year.

Although I do not believe the 4 Kernans are good enough to start for the county some of the criticism they get is unwarranted. When Cross were in the All Ireland series last year three of them still made themselves available for Armagh for a couple of games - while other players have not in the past. Also when Armagh last won the Ulster under 21 title Tony Kernan made himself available for the first round game against Tyrone, got injured and missed the All Ireland club final. Their commitment cannot be questioned. I also thought that Paul Kernan played well last night when he was on Ronan Clarke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 06, 2009, 04:29:48 PM
I think Harps are probably the only team left who could trouble Ogs on their day. However if The Ogs bring their 'A' game it will not matter because player for player they are well ahead of the rest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 06, 2009, 04:35:27 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on September 06, 2009, 04:28:13 PM
I believe Stephen Kernan was injured and not togged out. He had a knee operation earlier in the year.

Although I do not believe the 4 Kernans are good enough to start for the county some of the criticism they get is unwarranted. When Cross were in the All Ireland series last year three of them still made themselves available for Armagh for a couple of games - while other players have not in the past. Also when Armagh last won the Ulster under 21 title Tony Kernan made himself available for the first round game against Tyrone, got injured and missed the All Ireland club final. Their commitment cannot be questioned. I also thought that Paul Kernan played well last night when he was on Ronan Clarke.

Would agree, his committment is not in question and he is obviously a decent player just that I haven't seen enough to suggest that he is county standard. Paul had an ok game last night and even though Clarke had a good game PK done as well as anyone could be expected.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Family guy on September 06, 2009, 04:43:30 PM
Lads did johnny murtagh play for cross or was he a sub,he left the states last week to go home????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 04:44:37 PM
I think the harps are a far better side than any1 left in championship.. We have not seen the full harps side yet and feel they may have a few surprises up their sleeves!! A better attitude and bigger numbers at the trainings and matches I have watched the past number of weeks since the SACKING of nudie Hughes..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 06, 2009, 04:48:10 PM
Would agree Harps will have a huge say in the qfs and an Ogs/Harps final is a huge possibility, probably the two strongest teams left in the championship. That said, the remaining teams will still all fancy their chances
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 06, 2009, 05:04:51 PM
Quote from: Family guy on September 06, 2009, 04:43:30 PM
Lads did johnny murtagh play for cross or was he a sub,he left the states last week to go home????

He came on very late.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Family guy on September 06, 2009, 05:18:53 PM
hes back out here to play in the semi final then,no worries about having to go home for a semi with cross lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhachaabu on September 06, 2009, 05:23:09 PM
Well done ogs

Some shocking decisions by the ref, some really cynical play by some Cross players and some Ogs supporters acted like arseholes, screaming abuse at cross players - no call for that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 06, 2009, 05:28:03 PM
Quote from: Onlooker on September 06, 2009, 12:59:38 PM
What an achievement by Cross to win 13 County titles in a row and 4 All Irelands.  Unbeaten in the Armagh Championship since 1995 is unbelievable and will never be equalled in any county IMO.   But it is always great to see new teams winning titles and it will be interesting to see how the new Armagh Champions fare in the Ulster Club Championship.


Listen lads all this talk about records not being equalled is bullshit - it will take a super human effort but how in the name of god do you people know what will happen in the future in all counties. Ballina have done it before and other teasm such as eire og and nemo have been dominant so noone knows if it will be equalled. It happened so its possible it could happen again. If you had said in 96 that cros wouldnt be beat till 09 you would have been committed!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 06, 2009, 05:51:15 PM
I think i did say it. :D :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on September 06, 2009, 05:57:11 PM
well done tothe ogs last night,deserved win,moved the ball at pace showed up someof crossolder legs on the team.the ogs have put in hard work over last few years and in my opinion were the only team in armagh that could have stopped cross,as long as it doesnt go to their heads they will be very hard to stop now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 06:15:01 PM
I agree with the ogs doin well to beat cross but they wer not that impressive, they are beatable!! And if u read my past comments i feel the same as urself I hope they don't get it into their heads they are unbeatable and treated last nyt as their final... I feel there is 3 teams which can make semi and final against ogs a good contest and that is granemore and harps.. I feel harps will be hard to beat tho
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Erwin Rommel on September 06, 2009, 06:36:17 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on September 06, 2009, 04:06:54 AM
The best team won and my personal moment of the match was Stephen 'long face' Kernan getting getting dogs abuse from 85 % of the crowd for disputing a correct umpires decision- he is hated.

ps its wide open now lads - its anyones championship

Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 06, 2009, 11:51:40 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 06, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
It could also work wonders for the county team.  The likes of Paul and Tony Kernan, Jamie Clarke, Paul McKeown and Titch can now all get a McKenna Cup and a league campaign behind them next Winter / Spring.
As opposed to the norm of them being thrown straight into Championship football.


From what ive seen last night and this year some of those lads are nowhere near county standard! Tony Kernan is another charlie vernon - overrated as f**k!!

tweedle dee and tweedle dum back again - or maybe both tweedledum. hey ivedeceeded, you trying to mAke a tool of yourself on threads other then the Crossmaglen rAngers thread. It takes some goin to come out with spakes that make gaapunter seem iNteligent!!    :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 06, 2009, 06:38:16 PM
Harps have had a very poor year, bar the Nab game we've been very very ordinary.  Hoping it all clicks into place just because we've a lot of lads back isn't going to win a champ for us.  Much more is required.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 06, 2009, 07:22:50 PM
any updates from Granemeore game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 06, 2009, 07:33:29 PM
Quote from: loughshore lad on September 06, 2009, 02:42:51 PM
Judging by those photos on flicker no 10 for pearse og was Kieran Hughes who was wing back for Armagh in 2002?  What age is he now?  I always thought he was a good robust player.

Al I right in assuming Stephen Kernan didnt start for Cross?  Not dishing the lads as I wouldnt have seen enough to pass comment on his footballing ability but I find it strange he is on the county panel but is not an automatic starter for cross regardlees of how good they are.

Kieran Hughes had lost his place to Aidan O'Rourke by 2002.

And Stephen Kernan would definitely have played yesterday if fit, especially as Cross had a fairly lightweight half forward line.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 06, 2009, 07:34:03 PM
Granemore - 0-4 St Pats 0-1

Granemore playing against the breeze and all over them,

coming up to half time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 06, 2009, 07:36:16 PM
keep it coming onion lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 06, 2009, 07:44:13 PM
Granemore 0-5 St Pats 0-3,

5 mins to H/T
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 06, 2009, 08:32:45 PM
come on onion your are killing me here
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 06, 2009, 08:33:47 PM
Granemore 0-10, St Pats 0-6

Full time Score
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 06, 2009, 08:39:22 PM
good man
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 06, 2009, 08:42:49 PM
Any time winsam ;)

I wouldnt bet against Granemore going the whole way
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 08:49:29 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 06, 2009, 08:42:49 PM
Any time winsam ;)

I wouldnt bet against Granemore going the whole way
Was at granemore match, new they wud win but was very poor football.. 2 very poor games in 2 days whoever gets them has nothing to fear, hope next weeks matches r at least slightly better
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 06, 2009, 08:54:01 PM
Granemore and Pearse Ogs will hardly care what the games were like as a spectacle, they can only play the game as it unfolds, but on their day yhey would compete with best,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on September 06, 2009, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 06, 2009, 08:42:49 PM
I wouldnt bet against Granemore going the whole way

PofG argued that they shouldn't be in the Senior Championship, shows what he knows...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 09:05:27 PM
I'm guna put my neck on line and pick Harps for Armagh senior championship... wot do u think onion lad?? I hear they have peador toal back in the squad again after injury!! Big boost for them, he's an unreal player
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lothos on September 06, 2009, 09:12:17 PM
Quote from: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 09:05:27 PM
I'm guna put my neck on line and pick Harps for Armagh senior championship... wot do u think onion lad?? I hear they have peador toal back in the squad again after injury!! Big boost for them, he's an unreal player

well as a Harps supporter you obviously would
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 09:20:00 PM
Who mentioned that  i was a harps supporter... I've never said I was!! Just think that after being cheated out of it last year they will have a sour taste. In their mouths and have sumit to prove!! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on September 06, 2009, 09:26:33 PM
Thank God school is on tomorrow.  Hope you have English first class Unknown!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 06, 2009, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 09:05:27 PM
I'm guna put my neck on line and pick Harps for Armagh senior championship... wot do u think onion lad?? I hear they have peador toal back in the squad again after injury!! Big boost for them, he's an unreal player

On paper the Ogs have the best team left in the comp, and i would personally like to see them go the whole way and win it, however Harps, Granemore, Clans etc. could provide tricky enough opposition, so i reckon if they stay focused at the task in hand they should go the whole way,

i think they deserve it, after this past number of years suffering defeat at the hands of Cross

So good luck to the Ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 06, 2009, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: 02 on September 06, 2009, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 06, 2009, 08:42:49 PM
I wouldnt bet against Granemore going the whole way

PofG argued that they shouldn't be in the Senior Championship, shows what he knows...
Yeah, two or three years ago when I was arguing that the senior championship should be made up of division one and the top teams in division two as it would make for a more competitive championship.  Weren't Granemore division 3 at the time too?
Anyway, what do you know, now that Granemore are among the top teams in division 2 they're competing well in the senior championship. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on September 06, 2009, 09:49:06 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 06, 2009, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: 02 on September 06, 2009, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 06, 2009, 08:42:49 PM
I wouldnt bet against Granemore going the whole way

PofG argued that they shouldn't be in the Senior Championship, shows what he knows...
Yeah, two or three years ago when I was arguing that the senior championship should be made up of division one and the top teams in division two as it would make for a more competitive championship.  Weren't Granemore division 3 at the time too?
Anyway, what do you know, now that Granemore are among the top teams in division 2 they're competing well in the senior championship.

Fair Do's Pints, I was only given you a jag lol, this place wouldn't be the same without you!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 06, 2009, 09:51:54 PM
suprised no one has mentioned w`cross  as contenders yet thumped granemore and harps in da league and are flying really beat an understrength maghery team in 1st round but can mmatch any1 on their day,not that physical which is their downfall but make up for that with pace who knows evry1 will fancy thier chances if their still in it...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 06, 2009, 09:56:51 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 06, 2009, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: 02 on September 06, 2009, 09:02:15 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 06, 2009, 08:42:49 PM
I wouldnt bet against Granemore going the whole way

PofG argued that they shouldn't be in the Senior Championship, shows what he knows...
Yeah, two or three years ago when I was arguing that the senior championship should be made up of division one and the top teams in division two as it would make for a more competitive championship.  Weren't Granemore division 3 at the time too?
Anyway, what do you know, now that Granemore are among the top teams in division 2 they're competing well in the senior championship.
[/quote
well said pints , granemore were the better team tonight and deserved to , it was,nt as bad a game as someone remarked with granemore playing some very good football scoring 7 from 10 from play while st pats scored 5 frees from their 7 pts . good luck to granemore in the semi,s  :) .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 06, 2009, 09:57:07 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 06, 2009, 08:42:49 PM
Any time winsam ;)

I wouldnt bet against Granemore going the whole way
I would. Fair play to them they won a scrappy affair that looked like rugby at some stages but unusually for Cullyhanna they played very poor. Granemore have good forwards but some of their shooting in the first half was shite. In 2nd half they got the act together and should have had a goal, which really would have knocked the fight outa pats. Good to see no23 from Cullyhanna hasn't changed his ways ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: clanneire on September 06, 2009, 09:59:02 PM
its just a pity the match tonite was soured when a st pats official assaulted the ref while leaving the pitch,then a steward was punched when he interveened,total disgrace,thats all i can say
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 06, 2009, 09:59:12 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on September 06, 2009, 09:51:54 PM
suprised no one has mentioned w`cross  as contenders yet thumped granemore and harps in da league and are flying really beat an understrength maghery team in 1st round but can mmatch any1 on their day,not that physical which is their downfall but make up for that with pace who knows evry1 will fancy thier chances if their still in it...
Agreed, W'cross will def fancy themselves, haven't seen them this year but by all accounts have been playing good football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 06, 2009, 09:59:38 PM
Quote from: clanneire on September 06, 2009, 09:59:02 PM
its just a pity the match tonite was soured when a st pats official assaulted the ref while leaving the pitch,then a steward was punched when he interveened,total disgrace,thats all i can say
you'd expect nothing less from that shower of tramps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 06, 2009, 10:05:14 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on September 06, 2009, 09:51:54 PM
suprised no one has mentioned w`cross  as contenders yet thumped granemore and harps in da league and are flying really beat an understrength maghery team in 1st round but can mmatch any1 on their day,not that physical which is their downfall but make up for that with pace who knows evry1 will fancy thier chances if their still in it...

were you at any of these games between w-cross and granemore , if you were you,d know w-cross beat granemore in the first game of the season by 5 pts and in whitecross by 3 pts would hardly call either as being thumped and both games were a lot closer than the scoreline suggests but both sides are still in it and will fear no one .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 10:10:35 PM
Quote from: clanneire on September 06, 2009, 09:59:02 PM
its just a pity the match tonite was soured when a st pats official assaulted the ref while leaving the pitch,then a steward was punched when he interveened,total disgrace,thats all i can say
Was this incident at the q'final match between granemore and st pats? I didn't c it at all if it was
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on September 06, 2009, 10:10:56 PM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on September 06, 2009, 06:36:17 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on September 06, 2009, 04:06:54 AM
The best team won and my personal moment of the match was Stephen 'long face' Kernan getting getting dogs abuse from 85 % of the crowd for disputing a correct umpires decision- he is hated.

ps its wide open now lads - its anyones championship

Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 06, 2009, 11:51:40 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 06, 2009, 10:19:45 AM




It could also work wonders for the county team.  The likes of Paul and Tony Kernan, Jamie Clarke, Paul McKeown and Titch can now all get a McKenna Cup and a league campaign behind them next Winter / Spring.
As opposed to the norm of them being thrown straight into Championship football.


From what ive seen last night and this year some of those lads are nowhere near county standard! Tony Kernan is another charlie vernon - overrated as f**k!!

tweedle dee and tweedle dum back again - or maybe both tweedledum. hey ivedeceeded, you trying to mAke a tool of yourself on threads other then the Crossmaglen rAngers thread. It takes some goin to come out with spakes that make gaapunter seem iNteligent!!    :D

At least I can spell and know how to use the caps lock on my computer- go and do what you men do best ride your cousin

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 10:14:02 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on September 06, 2009, 10:10:56 PM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on September 06, 2009, 06:36:17 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on September 06, 2009, 04:06:54 AM
The best team won and my personal moment of the match was Stephen 'long face' Kernan getting getting dogs abuse from 85 % of the crowd for disputing a correct umpires decision- he is hated.

ps its wide open now lads - its anyones championship

Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 06, 2009, 11:51:40 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 06, 2009, 10:19:45 AMCharlie Vernon overrated??? Catch urself on... U sound like a stumpy little man I no from Blaney




It could also work wonders for the county team.  The likes of Paul and Tony Kernan, Jamie Clarke, Paul McKeown and Titch can now all get a McKenna Cup and a league campaign behind them next Winter / Spring.
As opposed to the norm of them being thrown straight into Championship football.


From what ive seen last night and this year some of those lads are nowhere near county standard! Tony Kernan is another charlie vernon - overrated as f**k!!

tweedle dee and tweedle dum back again - or maybe both tweedledum. hey ivedeceeded, you trying to mAke a tool of yourself on threads other then the Crossmaglen rAngers thread. It takes some goin to come out with spakes that make gaapunter seem iNteligent!!    :D

At least I can spell and know how to use the caps lock on my computer- go and do what you men do best ride your cousin
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 10:20:53 PM
Quote from: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 10:14:02 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on September 06, 2009, 10:10:56 PM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on September 06, 2009, 06:36:17 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on September 06, 2009, 04:06:54 AM
The best team won and my personal moment of the match was Stephen 'long face' Kernan getting getting dogs abuse from 85 % of the crowd for disputing a correct umpires decision- he is hated.

ps its wide open now lads - its anyones championship

Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 06, 2009, 11:51:40 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 06, 2009, 10:19:45 AMCharlie Vernon overrated??? Catch urself on... U sound like a stumpy little man I no from Blaney




It could also work wonders for the county team.  The likes of Paul and Tony Kernan, Jamie Clarke, Paul McKeown and Titch can now all get a McKenna Cup and a league campaign behind them next Winter / Spring.
As opposed to the norm of them being thrown straight into Championship football.


From what ive seen last night and this year some of those lads are nowhere near county standard! Tony Kernan is another charlie vernon - overrated as f**k!!

tweedle dee and tweedle dum back again - or maybe both tweedledum. hey ivedeceeded, you trying to mAke a tool of yourself on threads other then the Crossmaglen rAngers thread. It takes some goin to come out with spakes that make gaapunter seem iNteligent!!    :D

At least I can spell and know how to use the caps lock on my computer- go and do what you men do best ride your cousin
Charlie Vernon overrated?? Catch urself on ye muppet... U sound lak a wee man from blaney I no!! I take it ya don't watch him play too much ya clown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lothos on September 06, 2009, 10:28:16 PM
Quote from: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 10:20:53 PM
Charlie Vernon overrated?? Catch urself on ye muppet... U sound lak a wee man from blaney I no!! I take it ya don't watch him play too much ya clown
[/quote]

He's over rated surely.  He's a decent enough footballer but far too easy dispossessed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: clanneire on September 06, 2009, 10:33:59 PM
Was this incident at the q'final match between granemore and st pats? I didn't c it at all if it was
yep,tonite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: Lothos on September 06, 2009, 10:28:16 PM
Quote from: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 10:20:53 PM
Charlie Vernon overrated?? Catch urself on ye muppet... U sound lak a wee man from blaney I no!! I take it ya don't watch him play too much ya clown

He's over rated surely.  He's a decent enough footballer but far too easy dispossessed.
[/quote]I have to disagree with that.. I think he's a very good player, strong and very good on the ball!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 10:39:08 PM
Quote from: clanneire on September 06, 2009, 10:33:59 PM
Was this incident at the q'final match between granemore and st pats? I didn't c it at all if it was
yep,tonite
Wot started it? I new st pats cudnt just deal with being beat... Same old story!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on September 06, 2009, 10:39:30 PM
Quote from: clanneire on September 06, 2009, 09:59:02 PM
its just a pity the match tonite was soured when a st pats official assaulted the ref while leaving the pitch,then a steward was punched when he interveened,total disgrace,thats all i can say
kerian mc keevers dad was the man in question that assualted the ref. wats new from that crowd of inbreds
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lothos on September 06, 2009, 10:39:44 PM
We'll just have to agree to disagree.  Like I said, he's a decent enough footballer.  Strong, yes, but any game I've seen him play he tends to try and go on a run, eventually getting closed down and losing the ball.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on September 06, 2009, 10:44:56 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 06, 2009, 09:59:12 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on September 06, 2009, 09:51:54 PM
suprised no one has mentioned w`cross  as contenders yet thumped granemore and harps in da league and are flying really beat an understrength maghery team in 1st round but can mmatch any1 on their day,not that physical which is their downfall but make up for that with pace who knows evry1 will fancy thier chances if their still in it...
Agreed, W'cross will def fancy themselves, haven't seen them this year but by all accounts have been playing good football.
Dont think w`cross will do much..it will be down the who pairs who in the semi`s...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 10:48:16 PM
I think that's a disgrace... I no referees ain't the best at tums but without them their wud b no games and they are only doin a job... Never heard of any1 at work bein assaulted for a small mistake/nothing!! He shud be done for assault and banned from all sport grounds  around the county
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 06, 2009, 10:52:41 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on September 06, 2009, 10:39:30 PM
Quote from: clanneire on September 06, 2009, 09:59:02 PM
its just a pity the match tonite was soured when a st pats official assaulted the ref while leaving the pitch,then a steward was punched when he interveened,total disgrace,thats all i can say
kerian mc keevers dad was the man in question that assualted the ref. wats new from that crowd of inbreds
Why am I not surprised.  How many incidents does this club need to be involved in before they're given the punishment deserved?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 06, 2009, 10:54:13 PM
Ill tell ya what there must be some fantastic footballers posting on this board as some of you Muppet's just rip the middle of lads trying their best for their clubs, personal abuse is not right lads and should be knocked on the head...F**k me some fellas wife even got mentioned a few pages back.

By all means get stuck into a team and say something as a group but to single individuals out and then rip the middle out of him is childish and cowardly as most of you prob wouldn't say it to the guys face but are big men on your keyboards...FFS wise up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 10:55:48 PM
Quote from: Lothos on September 06, 2009, 10:39:44 PM
We'll just have to agree to disagree.  Like I said, he's a decent enough footballer.  Strong, yes, but any game I've seen him play he tends to try and go on a run, eventually getting closed down and losing the ball.
Looks like we will... U play urself? I do and I no Charlie strikes fear through most backs and teams!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 10:59:50 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 06, 2009, 10:52:41 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on September 06, 2009, 10:39:30 PM
Quote from: clanneire on September 06, 2009, 09:59:02 PM
its just a pity the match tonite was soured when a st pats official assaulted the ref while leaving the pitch,then a steward was punched when he interveened,total disgrace,thats all i can say
kerian mc keevers dad was the man in question that assualted the ref. wats new from that crowd of inbreds
Why am I not surprised.  How many incidents does this club need to be involved in before they're given the punishment deserved?
Its an absolute disgrace... Demote them to div 3/4 and ban them from championship for next year r 2!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on September 06, 2009, 11:07:48 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 06, 2009, 10:54:13 PM
Ill tell ya what there must be some fantastic footballers posting on this board as some of you Muppet's just rip the middle of lads trying their best for their clubs, personal abuse is not right lads and should be knocked on the head...F**k me some fellas wife even got mentioned a few pages back.

By all means get stuck into a team and say something as a group but to single individuals out and then rip the middle out of him is childish and cowardly as most of you prob wouldn't say it to the guys face but are big men on your keyboards...FFS wise up.

Well said illdecide - couldn't agree more!! 

Would you care though to comment on the personal comments, laced with vitriol, from some Clans supporters on this Board in reference to GAA Official and indeed 'individual', Ronan Quigley?

I've included an example below!

Quote from: illdecide on September 01, 2009, 10:28:27 AM
I see Mr Quigley is making the headlines again ::) what else do you expect from that tube
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 06, 2009, 11:16:13 PM
yes rufus, but illdecide wasn't slow in informing mr quigley of his thoughts in person aswell as on the board!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: reload on September 06, 2009, 11:18:08 PM
when is the draw being made for the next round? or is it already made?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 06, 2009, 11:19:15 PM
Fair enough Rufus and i know this will prob end up in one long argument but Mr Quigley is not an honest man, he deliberately goes out to cause havoc and to make sure he's the centre of attention.

My remark was aimed at players (honest players trying their best) and i don't think it's right guys slating them, most of the flak given out is jealousy and i doubt there'll be too many jealous of Ronan Quigley. There will be guys jumping on here saying my remark towards RQ is the same as ripping the middle out of the players but in my opinion it's not and i've explained why in the last paragraph.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 11:23:36 PM
Quote from: reload on September 06, 2009, 11:18:08 PM
when is the draw being made for the next round? or is it already made?
Next Sunday evening
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on September 07, 2009, 12:03:21 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 06, 2009, 10:54:13 PM
Ill tell ya what there must be some fantastic footballers posting on this board as some of you Muppet's just rip the middle of lads trying their best for their clubs, personal abuse is not right lads and should be knocked on the head...F**k me some fellas wife even got mentioned a few pages back.

By all means get stuck into a team and say something as a group but to single individuals out and then rip the middle out of him is childish and cowardly as most of you prob wouldn't say it to the guys face but are big men on your keyboards...FFS wise up.

Free speech - if you dont like - piss off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 07, 2009, 12:49:57 AM
Quote from: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 09:20:00 PM
Who mentioned that  i was a harps supporter... I've never said I was!! Just think that after being cheated out of it last year they will have a sour taste. In their mouths and have sumit to prove!!

about a third of your posts state that you think the harps are going to win the championship. only a harps supporter/player would feel so strongly about it that they've spent the last two days telling the whole world about it. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 07, 2009, 01:47:01 AM
Quote from: pearseog on September 07, 2009, 12:49:57 AM
Quote from: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 09:20:00 PM
Who mentioned that  i was a harps supporter... I've never said I was!! Just think that after being cheated out of it last year they will have a sour taste. In their mouths and have sumit to prove!!

about a third of your posts state that you think the harps are going to win the championship. only a harps supporter/player would feel so strongly about it that they've spent the last two days telling the whole world about it. ;)
I don't have to be a supporter/player to feel strongly about the harps to win... I felt strongly about the ogs to beat cross and I'm not an ogs supporter/player, they will beat u's wen yas meet in final as I feel strongly that u's are the only main contenders to be there and the gaa won't have yas meeting before that!! And if most of ur team has stayed sensible and if harps win next week and keep sensible it will be a certainty that it will be harps v ogs final... Now that will be a brilliant match to watch and absolutly unreal for the town... Let's just hope it happens
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 07, 2009, 01:57:53 AM
fair enough, bit too soon to be talking up an ogs v harps final. harps have two matches to win to get there while we have one. who knows, if harps beat clans theres still a posibility we could meet in the semis
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 07, 2009, 02:11:14 AM
Thats true.. Ur win last nyt will give all the teams a boost, every1 feared cross... No1 can say they didn't, feared not afraid if u no wot I mean! Hats off wer credit is due, yas beat cross although they have got through this number of years with dodgy decisions as u's no well urselves - mcconville head butt and so fourth! U also no ogs v harps final is cha ching cha ching cha ching for the gaa
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lothos on September 07, 2009, 07:25:54 AM
Quote from: Unknown on September 06, 2009, 10:55:48 PM
Quote from: Lothos on September 06, 2009, 10:39:44 PM
We'll just have to agree to disagree.  Like I said, he's a decent enough footballer.  Strong, yes, but any game I've seen him play he tends to try and go on a run, eventually getting closed down and losing the ball.
Looks like we will... U play urself? I do and I no Charlie strikes fear through most backs and teams!!!

Yes I do play.  I don't think I'd be too worried about the big bad Charlie
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 07, 2009, 08:05:02 AM
Quote from: AFS on September 05, 2009, 11:48:12 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on September 05, 2009, 11:26:03 PM
Anybody got starting line-ups from 2nites game?

My effort, hope not too many are wrong. Wouldn't know all the Ogs lads.

Cross
1. Hearty
2. Carragher
3. B McKeown
4. P McKeown
5. A Kernan
6. P Kernan
7. Donaldson
8. McEntee
9. McEntee
10. Ahern
11. McNamee
12. Cunningham
13. Clarke
14. T Kernan
15. McConville

Ogs
1. McKinney
2. McCoy
3. Darnell Parkinson
4. Mallon
5. P Duffy
6. Rafferty
7. Darren Davison
8. Moore
9. A Duffy
10. Shorty Clarke
11. R Clarke
12. McManus
13. Marc Cullen
14. S Clarke
15. Shorty Clarke

Great win for the Ogs throughly deserved
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 07, 2009, 08:56:16 AM
Well done to all the Ogs lads.  I just hope we can go on to win the next 2 matches.  It would be a shame to let this opportunity go to waste
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 07, 2009, 09:13:50 AM
Well done to the Og's on Saturday night

Poor enough first half with very few scoring chances being created
The Og's packed their defence giving Cross very few opportunities while taking any that came their way

Second half was similar to the first with Cross uncharacteristically missing a few free's

When the Og's broke down any attack they went forward in numbers.

Honestly didnt think this type of blanket defence would beat Cross but the Og's followed their game plan to a tee

The ref wasnt good either but at least he was consistent :-\
Couldnt understand how he didnt give the Og's a penalty or at least a free when they were clean through and the man was hauled down



What happened at last nights game with an official being hit??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 07, 2009, 09:29:15 AM
heard from a good source that R Quigley is refin the Harps v Clans match ( interesting )
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 07, 2009, 09:37:17 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 06, 2009, 10:52:41 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on September 06, 2009, 10:39:30 PM
Quote from: clanneire on September 06, 2009, 09:59:02 PM
its just a pity the match tonite was soured when a st pats official assaulted the ref while leaving the pitch,then a steward was punched when he interveened,total disgrace,thats all i can say
kerian mc keevers dad was the man in question that assualted the ref. wats new from that crowd of inbreds
Why am I not surprised.  How many incidents does this club need to be involved in before they're given the punishment deserved?
was this same person not  banned 5/6 years ago ? hope the county board come down hard on those involved , i dont know why this club have to resort to underhand tactics in games in which a lot goes unpunished  >:( .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on September 07, 2009, 09:41:51 AM
Crossmaglen captain Aaron Kernan and PEarse Og Manager Brendan Hughes react to the Ogs historic victory over Crossmaglen at the weekend

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/More-reaction-from-Crossmaglens-defeat.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 07, 2009, 10:28:57 AM
Quote from: torres on September 07, 2009, 09:37:17 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 06, 2009, 10:52:41 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on September 06, 2009, 10:39:30 PM
Quote from: clanneire on September 06, 2009, 09:59:02 PM
its just a pity the match tonite was soured when a st pats official assaulted the ref while leaving the pitch,then a steward was punched when he interveened,total disgrace,thats all i can say
kerian mc keevers dad was the man in question that assualted the ref. wats new from that crowd of inbreds
Why am I not surprised.  How many incidents does this club need to be involved in before they're given the punishment deserved?
was this same person not  banned 5/6 years ago ? hope the county board come down hard on those involved , i dont know why this club have to resort to underhand tactics in games in which a lot goes unpunished  >:( .

I know that there can never be an excuse for assaulting a referree at any time, but I really fail to say what could have upset the Cullyhanna men in last night's game.
They were by far the 2nd best team on the night and never looked like getting back into it.

It's not like they were beaten by a point with the referree being overly harsh on them all game.  Just seems really strange.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 07, 2009, 10:54:47 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 07, 2009, 09:29:15 AM
heard from a good source that R Quigley is refin the Harps v Clans match ( interesting )

Got a text 20 mins ago to say Paudie Hughes is the ref for Clans match on Sat nite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 07, 2009, 11:09:37 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 07, 2009, 10:54:47 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 07, 2009, 09:29:15 AM
heard from a good source that R Quigley is refin the Harps v Clans match ( interesting )

Got a text 20 mins ago to say Paudie Hughes is the ref for Clans match on Sat nite

Thats true, I'd say he was the only Cross man that drew any positives out of Saturday nights result. He'll probably get the county final now as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: reload on September 07, 2009, 11:11:57 AM
cullyhanna were indeed 2nd best for the full hour,but as usual when things go again them they show there true colours.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 07, 2009, 11:15:47 AM
What actually happened with the ref incident at the end of the Cullyanna game? If its as cut and dried as some have suggested then a long ban could be the result.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 07, 2009, 11:16:56 AM
ARMAGH CLUB FIXTURES FOR W/E SUNDAY 13 SEPTEMBER  2009

Tuesday 8 September
ACL – Div. II (6.45)
Madden v Granemore (Patrick Duffy)
ACL – Div. III (8.00)
Belleek v St Paul's (Eugene D Nugent) at Ballymacnab
ACL – Div. IV (8.00)
Killean v Crossmaglen II (Jim Lynch) at Dromintee

Saturday 12 September
Senior Championship Quarter-final (7.00)
Clan na Gael v Harps (Paudie Hughes) at Athletic Grounds, Armagh
All-County Under-16 League – Group A (4.00)
Crossmaglen v Pearse Og (Barney Henry)
Tir na nÓg v Dromintee (Noel Martin)

Sunday 13 September
Senior Championship Quarter-final (5.00)
Clann Eireann v Whitecross (Jim Slevin) at Pearse Og Park, Armagh
Under-14 Championship Semi-finals (11.00)
Pearse Og v St Paul's (Vincent O'Neill) at Portadown
Dromintee v Harps (Damian McConville) at Lissummon
ACL – Div. I (1.00)
Pearse Og v Culloville (Gary Smith)
ACL – Div. II (1.00)
Wolfe Tone v Maghey (Frank McDonald)
Ballyhegan v Silverbridge (Seamus O'Neill)
St Michael's v Ballymacnab (Barney Henry)
ACL – Div. III (1.00)
Annaghmore v St Paul's (Kevin Murtagh)
St Peter's v Shane O'Neill's (Eamon Nugent)
An Port Mor v Belleek (Tony O'Hare)
Lissummon v Collegeland (Kevin McNeice)
ACL – Div. IV (1.00)
Phelim Brady's v Dorsey Emmett's (Joe Murtagh)
Corrinshego v Forkhill (Paul Boylan)
Clady v Killean (Ger Devlin)
Grange v Crossmaglen II (Mickey Leonard)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 07, 2009, 11:17:16 AM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 07, 2009, 10:28:57 AM
Quote from: torres on September 07, 2009, 09:37:17 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 06, 2009, 10:52:41 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on September 06, 2009, 10:39:30 PM
Quote from: clanneire on September 06, 2009, 09:59:02 PM
its just a pity the match tonite was soured when a st pats official assaulted the ref while leaving the pitch,then a steward was punched when he interveened,total disgrace,thats all i can say
kerian mc keevers dad was the man in question that assualted the ref. wats new from that crowd of inbreds
Why am I not surprised.  How many incidents does this club need to be involved in before they're given the punishment deserved?
was this same person not  banned 5/6 years ago ? hope the county board come down hard on those involved , i dont know why this club have to resort to underhand tactics in games in which a lot goes unpunished  >:( .

I know that there can never be an excuse for assaulting a referree at any time, but I really fail to say what could have upset the Cullyhanna men in last night's game.
They were by far the 2nd best team on the night and never looked like getting back into it.

It's not like they were beaten by a point with the referree being overly harsh on them all game.  Just seems really strange.
they seem to have a massive chip on their shoulders , when the granemore forwards went and took their positions  the st ? pats defenders put out their hands and the players shook then they started fronting up and shouldering , first side i,ve seen doing this all season ,like what does that achieve , they must think they,re hard men or something but granemore stood up to them and st pats on the line did,nt like or expect this and began yapping as usual looking free,s and bookings while their own tackling was a lot worse  >:( . i do hope the cb look into their actions on the night which took away slightly the deserved granmore win  :) .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 07, 2009, 11:24:39 AM
while attending both games at the athelic grounds at the week-end i have to congradulate both og's and granemore, i'd say its a long time since 3 mid armagh clubs were in the last six. id like to see og's and granemore in the next round i think granemore would put it up them.

on another note the person who assaulted the referre and the steward should be banned from the GAA for life, and the two men should claim for assault. i think the referre's should go on strike until there is more protection for referre's.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: puskas on September 07, 2009, 11:35:47 AM
congrats to the Ogs, and commiserations to the mighty Cross.

who was on the board there last week about there being no competitive teams from Armagh city? hope the Harps can do it this weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 07, 2009, 11:59:32 AM
Does anyone have a list of the week ends results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 07, 2009, 12:01:09 PM
Wednesday 2 September
ACL – Div. IV
Mullaghbrack 1-5; Corrinshego 3-7

Friday 4 September
ACL – Div. III
Middletown 0-7; Collegeland 3-11

Saturday 5 September
Senior Football Championship Quarter-final
Crossmaglen 0-4; Pearse Og 0-7
ACL – Div. II
Wolfe Tone 0-5; Whitecross 3-15
Ballymacnab 1-10; Silverbridge 1-8
Madden 1-13; Harps 3-8
St Michael's 0-7; Clann Eireann 1-9
Tir na nÓg 1-9; Ballyhegan 0-14
ACL – Div. III
Tullysaran 0-12; Shane O'Neill's 1-6
Belleek v St Paul's (Off)
Keady 1-19; Lissummon 0-7
An Port Mor 1-11; Clonmore 1-8
ACL – Div. IV
Phelim Brady's v O'Hanlon's (Off)
Crossmaglen II v Killean (Off)
Derrynoose v Forkhill (Off)
Grange 2-13; Corrinshego 2-9
Mullaghbrack 2-7; Clady 0-12

Sunday 6 September
Senior Football Championship Quarter-final
Granemore 0-10; St Patrick's 0-6
ACL – Div. IV
Derrynoose lost to Forkhill
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: reload on September 07, 2009, 12:22:40 PM
when is the intermediate final to be played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 07, 2009, 12:39:42 PM
Quote from: puskas on September 07, 2009, 11:35:47 AM
congrats to the Ogs, and commiserations to the mighty Cross.

who was on the board there last week about there being no competitive teams from Armagh city? hope the Harps can do it this weekend.


I hope they cant!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 07, 2009, 01:05:32 PM
Cheers full back!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 07, 2009, 01:34:02 PM
Quote
who was on the board there last week about there being no competitive teams from Armagh city?

That would be me. Some reassessment is needed, especially if the Ógs push on to win Armagh and make an impact on Ulster, as they should be able to do.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 07, 2009, 01:51:12 PM
who was the ref at the granemore game???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on September 07, 2009, 01:56:21 PM
Passing through, just though i'd add a note of congratulations to Pearse Ogs.
Great night for the whole club and even made me feel welcome in their club afterwards for a pint or two.

On the referee incident last night(Rory Robinson). I was at the game
- Referees should remove their services until the county board take appropriate action
- County board should be ashamed at the lack of protection i.e. Steward shortages at both games this weekend


Also, surface wise the pitch is pure dung. No programmes does make it hard for people to spot good players/changes on teams and this pisses me off as neutrals would hardly looking to come back to watch c'ship matches again
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 07, 2009, 02:28:22 PM
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on September 07, 2009, 01:56:21 PM
Passing through, just though i'd add a note of congratulations to Pearse Ogs.
Great night for the whole club and even made me feel welcome in their club afterwards for a pint or two.

On the referee incident last night(Rory Robinson). I was at the game
- Referees should remove their services until the county board take appropriate action
- County board should be ashamed at the lack of protection i.e. Steward shortages at both games this weekend


Also, surface wise the pitch is pure dung. No programmes does make it hard for people to spot good players/changes on teams and this pisses me off as neutrals would hardly looking to come back to watch c'ship matches again

I wouldn't like to comment on this incident until an accurate description of it is given, so to suggest that referees should withdraw services is an over-reaction based on rumour and innuendo.  I suppose it depends on what is included in the referees report.

I would agree about the lack of stewards though and also the state of the playing surface. You'd also think that a photocopier would be available at county board HQ to run off a few more programmes. Surely that is not too much to ask.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 07, 2009, 03:10:03 PM
Must be a lack of funds within the county board at the moment as i heard over the weekend that the minors will not be staying in Dublin after the All Ireland final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 07, 2009, 03:18:47 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on September 07, 2009, 03:10:03 PM
Must be a lack of funds within the county board at the moment as i heard over the weekend that the minors will not be staying in Dublin after the All Ireland final

I'd imagine the Carrickdale will cost as much!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 07, 2009, 03:24:02 PM
QuoteI'd imagine the Carrickdale will cost as much!?

unless there is an element of sponsorship in kind.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 07, 2009, 03:27:06 PM
Although why would you stay in the Carrickdale when you prob only live 10 mins away...

Goats, Is Paul Mc back playing for you guys or is he still injured and if so did he retire full stop or just from county?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 07, 2009, 03:57:30 PM
lack of stewards was a disgrace. something happened at half time were someone needed medical attention in the crowd at the far side. a women actualy had to run across the pitch to the order of malta in order to get the person seen to. no stewards in place to help the affected person to get help quicker
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 07, 2009, 04:03:48 PM
Quote from: pearseog on September 07, 2009, 03:57:30 PM
lack of stewards was a disgrace. something happened at half time were someone needed medical attention in the crowd at the far side. a women actualy had to run across the pitch to the order of malta in order to get the person seen to. no stewards in place to help the affected person to get help quicker

I stated that earlier pearseogs and it is a damned disgrace. Also the children on the field at half time clearly there were no stewards preventing them getting on but subs can't get on to warm up. What sort of a county are we living in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 07, 2009, 04:58:59 PM
int
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 07, 2009, 04:03:48 PM
Quote from: pearseog on September 07, 2009, 03:57:30 PM
lack of stewards was a disgrace. something happened at half time were someone needed medical attention in the crowd at the far side. a women actualy had to run across the pitch to the order of malta in order to get the person seen to. no stewards in place to help the affected person to get help quicker

I stated that earlier pearseogs and it is a damned disgrace. Also the children on the field at half time clearly there were no stewards preventing them getting on but subs can't get on to warm up. What sort of a county are we living in.

was at the match last night and the same thing happened. there were already about 100 kids on the pitch. 2 young fellas in front of me tried to get on and a steward stopped them. dont see the point in stopping the 2 lads at this point. there should however be more stewards in place at the end of the first half to stop all the kids getting on. if they cant get enough stewards then organise something at half-time such as the ABLE group who played at half time of the armagh/laois match or kids from a range of clubs playing in an organised game. and if they can't bother to do that then let the bloody subs on for a kickabout
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lowball on September 07, 2009, 05:09:06 PM
Well done to Ogs and Granemore over the weekend. Taking Cross out of the championship leaves it anyone's at this stage.

Regarding the stewarding, it very poor. If these games were at a club ground the host club would be responsible for the provision of stewards. If the kaos occurred at a club ground for a championship game the host club would be held accountable and made an example of.

So many small things in Armagh seem to be neglected and it is not looking good at present.

The playing surface needs attended to at the Athletic Grounds, it is worse than a lot of club grounds!!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 07, 2009, 05:49:11 PM
Regarding the stewards.  It's a voluntary job, clubs are asked ad nauseum to send stewards, but few, if any do.  The Co Board has threatened on a few ocassions that paid stewards are going to be required and the cost will ultimately fall on the clubs. 

I'll take names for volunteers :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 07, 2009, 06:03:21 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 07, 2009, 09:29:15 AM
heard from a good source that R Quigley is refin the Harps v Clans match ( interesting )
God I wish that was true  :D  :D    :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: reload on September 07, 2009, 06:20:00 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 07, 2009, 04:03:48 PM
Quote from: pearseog on September 07, 2009, 03:57:30 PM
lack of stewards was a disgrace. something happened at half time were someone needed medical attention in the crowd at the far side. a women actualy had to run across the pitch to the order of malta in order to get the person seen to. no stewards in place to help the affected person to get help quicker

I stated that earlier pearseogs and it is a damned disgrace. Also the children on the field at half time clearly there were no stewards preventing them getting on but subs can't get on to warm up. What sort of a county are we living in.
when was this rule that subs cant go on to the field at half time introduced, or what is the consequences if they do?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 07, 2009, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on September 07, 2009, 11:24:39 AM
while attending both games at the athelic grounds at the week-end i have to congradulate both og's and granemore, i'd say its a long time since 3 mid armagh clubs were in the last six. id like to see og's and granemore in the next round i think granemore would put it up them.

on another note the person who assaulted the referre and the steward should be banned from the GAA for life, and the two men should claim for assault. i think the referre's should go on strike until there is more protection for referre's.

I'd assumed the steward intervened to help??? Did he his Robinson too???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 07, 2009, 06:38:01 PM
be interesting to see wat happens here would be on camera aswell id say,didnt maghery get fined £1000 and have to play 1st 4 home fixtures next year away because 2 supporters gave the ref abuse coming off the field but wasnt even beside him never mind hit him so st pats could be in big trouble are will mckeever play the im co captain and ill not play if my da r club r suspendid ??? :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 07, 2009, 06:47:00 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on September 07, 2009, 06:38:01 PM
be interesting to see wat happens here would be on camera aswell id say,didnt maghery get fined £1000 and have to play 1st 4 home fixtures next year away because 2 supporters gave the ref abuse coming off the field but wasnt even beside him never mind hit him so st pats could be in big trouble are will mckeever play the im co captain and ill not play if my da r club r suspendid ??? :o
Or he could just do what he did the last time the club was in serious trouble, it worked so why not do it again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 07, 2009, 07:03:31 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 07, 2009, 06:47:00 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on September 07, 2009, 06:38:01 PM
be interesting to see wat happens here would be on camera aswell id say,didnt maghery get fined £1000 and have to play 1st 4 home fixtures next year away because 2 supporters gave the ref abuse coming off the field but wasnt even beside him never mind hit him so st pats could be in big trouble are will mckeever play the im co captain and ill not play if my da r club r suspendid ??? :o
Or he could just do what he did the last time the club was in serious trouble, it worked so why not do it again.
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do tell us more, pints .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 07, 2009, 07:06:01 PM
Sure I never stopped talking about it at the time and everyone was whinging. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 07, 2009, 09:24:52 PM
Torres scroll back about 300 pages for pints rants on cullyhanna. Oh and you may want to have a rope handy. Up the Quigley  ;) ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 07, 2009, 10:06:29 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on September 07, 2009, 06:38:01 PM
be interesting to see wat happens here would be on camera aswell id say,didnt maghery get fined £1000 and have to play 1st 4 home fixtures next year away because 2 supporters gave the ref abuse coming off the field but wasnt even beside him never mind hit him so st pats could be in big trouble are will mckeever play the im co captain and ill not play if my da r club r suspendid ??? :o
Someone told me that Ulster council officials were attending their (Pats) games last year to keep an eye on them, anyone confirm is that true?
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 07, 2009, 07:06:01 PM
Sure I never stopped talking about it at the time and everyone was whinging. 
Go on Pints, get a wee rant outta ye, I'll even agree with you on this one  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: reload on September 07, 2009, 10:15:56 PM
the county board should throw the book at them over there previous thuggish acts. but they will probably just brush in under the carpet as usual. thats why they keep repeating there shit when things go against them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 07, 2009, 10:16:20 PM
Just read a letter from a Dromintee person in the Examiner bemoaning the fact that some followers of other south Armagh clubs were supporting Granemore in their recent championship game. Hardly surprising considering the tribal nature of club footballing rivalries.

However the real reason for their complaints became evident when the letter was delved into further. It was evident that the real reason for their bitterness was the fact that it was Ogs and not Dromintee who put an end to the reign of Cross. The writer of the letter is also delusional in their assertion that Dromintee did not become a bad team on the basis of one bad game. Their demise has been evident for 2 seasons now in battling relegation and while they were unlucky to run into the Cross machine when at their peak I think begrudgery has played a part in the letter writers rant.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: reload on September 07, 2009, 10:29:36 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 07, 2009, 10:16:20 PM
Just read a letter from a Dromintee person in the Examiner bemoaning the fact that some followers of other south Armagh clubs were supporting Granemore in their recent championship game. Hardly surprising considering the tribal nature of club footballing rivalries.

However the real reason for their complaints became evident when the letter was delved into further. It was evident that the real reason for their bitterness was the fact that it was Ogs and not Dromintee who put an end to the reign of Cross. The writer of the letter is also delusional in their assertion that Dromintee did not become a bad team on the basis of one bad game. Their demise has been evident for 2 seasons now in battling relegation and while they were unlucky to run into the Cross machine when at their peak I think begrudgery has played a part in the letter writers rant.
just read the same letter and id have to agree there is a slight stench of jealousy at them not having the team to beat cross,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 07, 2009, 10:40:24 PM
Bet ya it was corn02  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 08, 2009, 12:02:14 AM
fairplay to that man mc keever its about time someone has taken these refs out for being so bad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 08, 2009, 07:30:45 AM
Quote from: back off the net on September 08, 2009, 12:02:14 AM
fairplay to that man mc keever its about time someone has taken these refs out for being so bad.
Are you wise, if anything the ref favoured Cullyhanna ffs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 08, 2009, 08:13:40 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 07, 2009, 03:27:06 PM
Although why would you stay in the Carrickdale when you prob only live 10 mins away...

Goats, Is Paul Mc back playing for you guys or is he still injured and if so did he retire full stop or just from county?

He's not back playing.. he's at every game, & has a great input to the team by all accounts. He is back jogging, though doesn't look totally comfortable. I don't think we'll see him playing again, however, it would not surprise me to see him lining out next year!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 08, 2009, 09:20:59 AM
Taken from Orchard County

Betting For The Armagh SFC

8/15 - PEARSE OGS
9/2 - GRANEMORE
6/1 - CLAN NA GAEL
6/1 - WHITECROSS
8/1 -ARMAGH HARPS
14/1 - CLANN EIREANN

Betting From Bar-One Racing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 08, 2009, 09:24:49 AM
Quote from: full back on September 08, 2009, 09:20:59 AM
Taken from Orchard County

Betting For The Armagh SFC

8/15 - PEARSE OGS
9/2 - GRANEMORE
6/1 - CLAN NA GAEL
6/1 - WHITECROSS
8/1 -ARMAGH HARPS
14/1 - CLANN EIREANN

Betting From Bar-One Racing

Based on this the Clans are favourites for sat nite??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 08, 2009, 09:25:33 AM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on September 08, 2009, 09:24:49 AM
Quote from: full back on September 08, 2009, 09:20:59 AM
Taken from Orchard County

Betting For The Armagh SFC

8/15 - PEARSE OGS
9/2 - GRANEMORE
6/1 - CLAN NA GAEL
6/1 - WHITECROSS
8/1 -ARMAGH HARPS
14/1 - CLANN EIREANN

Betting From Bar-One Racing

Based on this the Clans are favourites for sat nite??

If the above is correct they will be slight favourites
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 08, 2009, 09:48:46 AM
The Blue Oyster Boys from across the city are a good price for the championship, maybe worth throwing a few euro on them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 08, 2009, 09:49:32 AM
Did someone have the betting up for individual matches...i.e Harps v Clans & Whitecross v Clann Eireann??? I feel a we double coming on this weekend ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on September 08, 2009, 11:41:14 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 03, 2009, 02:27:55 PM
cross 1/5 ogs 9/2   st.pats 4/5 granemore 7/4  harps 1/1 clans 2/1

Surely that should be 1/2 :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 08, 2009, 11:44:49 AM
Clans will be about 5/6 or 4/5
Armagh bookies might have it 10/11 your pick
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 08, 2009, 01:46:23 PM
So if the bar one betting is correct and the clans are indeed bookies favourites then what price are the harps????????

Can anyone get the match betting???????

Oh and diet coke they are no 1/2 shots lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on September 08, 2009, 01:48:27 PM
I would have thought that Clans 8/11 and Harps 11/8 would be the right odds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 08, 2009, 01:52:15 PM
lads "IF" harps beat the clans then that will be 3 of the last 4 teams left in championship div 2 teams. this maybe answer the question why the bookies have clans as favs for harps game league tables dont lie r do they? ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 08, 2009, 01:56:35 PM
They could lie. Te Harps could beat any team on their day. I'd say they are the one team the Og's would like to avoid.

I'd like to see Whitecross go farther, they've been the best footballing team i've seen this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 08, 2009, 02:04:08 PM


I'd like to see Whitecross go farther, they've been the best footballing team i've seen this year.
[/quote] 
  ??? ??? i take it you wernt at the ogs and cross game sat night then goats  ;D :D ;) you need to get out more ;D ;D have w`cross not lost 2 games this year :P ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lowball on September 08, 2009, 03:27:39 PM
Whitecross are a good footballing side and fully deserve to be where they are in the quarter final of the championship. As a neutral I too would also like to see them progress.

They may have lost 2 games this year but look at all the teams left in each championship and look at their league results........League and championship are two different things, some have the bottle for it and some just bottle it...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 08, 2009, 03:33:51 PM
You seem to have taken offence wt4r!

Maghery beat Whitecross on both occasions I believe.

I just liked the way they play. Have you seen them yourself?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 08, 2009, 07:01:00 PM
At what stage did the assault on the referee take place on Sunday night.

I watched the game from the covered area on the far side and after the final whistle i walked across the pitch to the ceannaras.
I was about for at least 5 minutes after the game ended and did not see anything.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 08, 2009, 08:00:32 PM
well you shouldn't have been on the pitch crossfire as this could hae led to a fine ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 08, 2009, 10:07:14 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 08, 2009, 08:00:32 PM
well you shouldn't have been on the pitch crossfire as this could hae led to a fine ;)

I'm a child so that would be OK then i suppose. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 09, 2009, 11:13:47 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on September 08, 2009, 03:33:51 PM
You seem to have taken offence wt4r!

Maghery beat Whitecross on both occasions I believe.

I just liked the way they play. Have you seen them yourself?
yes i seen them a few times this year, they beat harps handy in abbey park but harps had quit a few missing and just didnt look bothered. i also seen them beat what looked like an understrength maghery team in championship,so by all accounts they wernt tested fully when ive seen them tbh. they move the ball v quickly and can take a score but like i said before their weakness is they have no big men and could struggle against ogs and harps when the thing heats up but i wouldnt count out c`eireann yet with henderson in your team you never know.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on September 09, 2009, 11:14:05 AM
Firstly id like to congratulate the ogs on their victory. I was not only impressed with the way they won the match but also their conduct after the game. It was a credit to them as they know they have won nothing yet.

What can anyone say about cross? what a team. in my eyes the best club team there has ever been. They dug deep but it wasnt to be their night. I also need to comment on their conduct after the game. They were very sporting and are a credit to themselves and their club. it was great to see both teams behaving in that manner with total respect for each other.

Congratulations the granemore. they were by far the better team and will be very dangerous opponents for whoever they meet.

This weekend i expect a harps and whitecross victory leaving only 1 division 1 side in the competition.

I see the ogs are down to play culloville this weekend in the league. if ogs win this do culloville go down? i cant see the ogs fielding their strongest team. no doubt killeavy and mullabawn will be watching this closely!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2009, 11:22:24 AM
I find it strange that people feel the need to compliment us on our behaviour.  The one thing the team has always been in defeat and victory is respectful and dignified.  It is obviously a commentary on the way other teams operate rather than the way we do but to me that is a sad state of affairs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Winnie Peg on September 09, 2009, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2009, 11:22:24 AM
I find it strange that people feel the need to compliment us on our behaviour.  The one thing the team has always been in defeat and victory is respectful and dignified.  It is obviously a commentary on the way other teams operate rather than the way we do but to me that is a sad state of affairs

Give me a bucket. ::) Statistics show that Nemo Rangers arew the best club team of all time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 09, 2009, 11:59:56 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2009, 11:22:24 AM
I find it strange that people feel the need to compliment us on our behaviour.  The one thing the team has always been in defeat and victory is respectful and dignified.  It is obviously a commentary on the way other teams operate rather than the way we do but to me that is a sad state of affairs

yeah,, that's silly oul sentimental shite, which is patronizing to cross at best.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 09, 2009, 12:07:53 PM
BC1 have a life and accept the good nature respect. Ive seen in the past not as gracefull respect by some of the team when the beat teams. But it was exellent on sat nite.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 09, 2009, 12:29:31 PM
From Orchard County

4/5  - CLAN NA GAEL
7/1 - DRAW
6/5 - ARMAGH HARPS


5/2 - CLANN EIREANN
15/2 - DRAW
4/11 - WHITECROSS

Amended Senior Prices Outright

OUTRIGHT BETTING FOR THE SFC

4/7 - PEARSE OGS
9/2 - GRANEMORE
6/1 - CLAN NA GAEL
13/2 - WHITECROSS
8/1 - ARMAGH HARPS
14/1 - CLANN EIREANN

Betting From Bar-One Racing



The Harps boys will be looking a bit of the 6/5 I would say if they have all the players back
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2009, 12:38:04 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 09, 2009, 12:07:53 PM
BC1 have a life and accept the good nature respect. Ive seen in the past not as gracefull respect by some of the team when the beat teams. But it was exellent on sat nite.

wanderer, I think you picked me up wrong.  I think its great that people appreciate that we accepted defeat graciously, but what else would we do?  It should be a basic part of the game.  There may have been isolated incidents in the past of a lack of respect but in general it would not be the case.

Quote from: Winnie Peg on September 09, 2009, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2009, 11:22:24 AM
I find it strange that people feel the need to compliment us on our behaviour.  The one thing the team has always been in defeat and victory is respectful and dignified.  It is obviously a commentary on the way other teams operate rather than the way we do but to me that is a sad state of affairs

Give me a bucket. ::) Statistics show that Nemo Rangers arew the best club team of all time.

As for you, Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 09, 2009, 12:45:02 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2009, 12:38:04 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 09, 2009, 12:07:53 PM
BC1 have a life and accept the good nature respect. Ive seen in the past not as gracefull respect by some of the team when the beat teams. But it was exellent on sat nite.

wanderer, I think you picked me up wrong.  I think its great that people appreciate that we accepted defeat graciously, but what else would we do?  It should be a basic part of the game.  There may have been isolated incidents in the past of a lack of respect but in general it would not be the case.

possibly the sentiments are directed more at your support bc?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2009, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 09, 2009, 12:45:02 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2009, 12:38:04 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 09, 2009, 12:07:53 PM
BC1 have a life and accept the good nature respect. Ive seen in the past not as gracefull respect by some of the team when the beat teams. But it was exellent on sat nite.

wanderer, I think you picked me up wrong.  I think its great that people appreciate that we accepted defeat graciously, but what else would we do?  It should be a basic part of the game.  There may have been isolated incidents in the past of a lack of respect but in general it would not be the case.

possibly the sentiments are directed more at your support bc?

Well, I can't account for the supporters, but like very club Cross has good supporters and gobshite supporters.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SuperHans on September 09, 2009, 02:17:13 PM
speaking of r henderson, wat are ppls views on his playing time in the ulster championship?? he seemd to start the season with a bang

will marty mccoy and mark mcconville start next week for the harps due u reckon or are they still state side??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ulster Exile on September 09, 2009, 02:31:18 PM
In the spirit of the Cross supporters conversation. I really can't believe they were beat, I mean I can't believe they were let beat if that makes sense? The day a team was on top of Cross in the last few minutes of a game I would have expected it to be like an armagheddon scene, mobs adorning the pitch with pitchforks to make sure the game was abandoned and Cross lived to fight another day.

Very surprised.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 09, 2009, 02:32:04 PM
There back this week but cant see them starting due to players already in the team total commitment, that will also exclude pt. Also cant see the standard in the states havin they up to championship pace?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Winnie Peg on September 09, 2009, 02:33:06 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2009, 12:48:56 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 09, 2009, 12:45:02 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2009, 12:38:04 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 09, 2009, 12:07:53 PM
BC1 have a life and accept the good nature respect. Ive seen in the past not as gracefull respect by some of the team when the beat teams. But it was exellent on sat nite.

wanderer, I think you picked me up wrong.  I think its great that people appreciate that we accepted defeat graciously, but what else would we do?  It should be a basic part of the game.  There may have been isolated incidents in the past of a lack of respect but in general it would not be the case.

possibly the sentiments are directed more at your support bc?

Well, I can't account for the supporters, but like very club Cross has good supporters and gobshite supporters.
Why did I have to always have to stand beside the gobshites then! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lowball on September 09, 2009, 02:35:54 PM
Henderson probably deserved more championship game time or at least a prolonged run in the team as he seemed to be dropped very quickly after an impressive start.

But we don't know how he was training or going in internal games. He actually surprised me as I didn't think he was up to it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on September 09, 2009, 02:40:31 PM
Ulster Exile,
I am not a "Cross" supporter, but I think your comments are in very bad taste. I have played against them, supported my team against them,and watched them many times,I never saw any one do anything wrong win or lose. I think you should apoligise for your comments on a great club. :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 09, 2009, 05:54:46 PM
Quote from: lowball on September 09, 2009, 02:35:54 PM
Henderson probably deserved more championship game time or at least a prolonged run in the team as he seemed to be dropped very quickly after an impressive start.

But we don't know how he was training or going in internal games. He actually surprised me as I didn't think he was up to it.

Ryan deserved to be dropped, and he wasn't dropped quickly. After the Wexford game he started the next three league games and was very poor, getting taken off in each of them. I hope next year he can add a bit more consistency to his obvious talent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Diet Coke on September 09, 2009, 06:37:11 PM
Quote from: AFS on September 09, 2009, 05:54:46 PM
Quote from: lowball on September 09, 2009, 02:35:54 PM
Henderson probably deserved more championship game time or at least a prolonged run in the team as he seemed to be dropped very quickly after an impressive start.

But we don't know how he was training or going in internal games. He actually surprised me as I didn't think he was up to it.

Ryan deserved to be dropped, and he wasn't dropped quickly. After the Wexford game he started the next three league games and was very poor, getting taken off in each of them. I hope next year he can add a bit more consistency to his obvious talent.
Let him stick to the soccer 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ulster Exile on September 09, 2009, 07:26:00 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on September 09, 2009, 02:40:31 PM
Ulster Exile,
I am not a "Cross" supporter, but I think your comments are in very bad taste. I have played against them, supported my team against them,and watched them many times,I never saw any one do anything wrong win or lose. I think you should apoligise for your comments on a great club. :-\

Good man yourself.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: teletubby on September 09, 2009, 08:57:03 PM
Quote from: Ulster Exile on September 09, 2009, 07:26:00 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on September 09, 2009, 02:40:31 PM
Ulster Exile,
I am not a "Cross" supporter, but I think your comments are in very bad taste. I have played against them, supported my team against them,and watched them many times,I never saw any one do anything wrong win or lose. I think you should apoligise for your comments on a great club. :-\


Im not a cross supporter either and id have to agree i never seen them conduct themseleves to badly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: teletubby on September 09, 2009, 09:09:57 PM
Has anyone heard any more nominees for the armagh senior post?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armamike on September 09, 2009, 10:38:23 PM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on September 09, 2009, 11:45:49 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2009, 11:22:24 AM
I find it strange that people feel the need to compliment us on our behaviour.  The one thing the team has always been in defeat and victory is respectful and dignified.  It is obviously a commentary on the way other teams operate rather than the way we do but to me that is a sad state of affairs

Give me a bucket. ::) Statistics show that Nemo Rangers arew the best club team of all time.

Most successful club and most successful club team are two different things.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on September 09, 2009, 11:03:40 PM
Quote from: teletubby on September 09, 2009, 09:09:57 PM
Has anyone heard any more nominees for the armagh senior post?

Houlie was interviewd by the CB tonight, Oisin would be his running mate and by all accounts things went well.

Houlie managed the minors a few years back and would be a good man to serve the county for a year until McGeeney takes over.

BTW, he and Oisin used to own greyhounds together, they get on well and are two legends, heres hoping. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 09, 2009, 11:06:49 PM
Houlie & Oisin would surely have a more "forward" looking approach.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 09, 2009, 11:16:29 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 09, 2009, 11:06:49 PM
Houlie & Oisin would surely have a more "forward" looking approach.
Not a chance.. U need to have a few years expierience behind them before that ever even is thit about
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: teletubby on September 09, 2009, 11:40:49 PM
Dunno id say they would be ok. Was there anyone else being interviewed tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 09, 2009, 11:47:48 PM
Quote from: stew on September 09, 2009, 11:03:40 PM
Quote from: teletubby on September 09, 2009, 09:09:57 PM
Has anyone heard any more nominees for the armagh senior post?

Houlie was interviewd by the CB tonight, Oisin would be his running mate and by all accounts things went well.

Houlie managed the minors a few years back and would be a good man to serve the county for a year until McGeeney takes over.

BTW, he and Oisin used to own greyhounds together, they get on well and are two legends, heres hoping. ;D

I hear Biff is the waterboy  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 10, 2009, 12:44:29 AM
So teletubby bcos they owned greyhounds together u reckon they will be gud for the job... They wud never have taken anything to do with the dogs training wise, maybe they willget there dog trainer in and walk the county boys up to 4 mile a day feed on dog food and water then houlie and Oisin can walk them out to the field instead of a ball use a stuffed hare and they'll win all round them!!! LOL  ;D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 10, 2009, 01:07:29 AM

whats the ogs men's take on houlie?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: teletubby on September 10, 2009, 10:11:04 AM
Quote from: Unknown on September 10, 2009, 12:44:29 AM
So teletubby bcos they owned greyhounds together u reckon they will be gud for the job... They wud never have taken anything to do with the dogs training wise, maybe they willget there dog trainer in and walk the county boys up to 4 mile a day feed on dog food and water then houlie and Oisin can walk them out to the field instead of a ball use a stuffed hare and they'll win all round them!!! LOL  ;D :D

:Dyeah thats right unknown,what i meant was they would have enough football experience between them, they would offer something.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 10, 2009, 10:16:02 AM
wat about ogs manager brendan hughes as armagh manager he has ogs flying and must know his stuff would be better than houllie ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 10, 2009, 10:21:20 AM
was Hughes part of the armagh minor management when they won the ulster not so long ago. I wouldn't have him down as a favourite but who knows what clown will be over Armagh this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: under the bar on September 10, 2009, 11:02:48 AM
Quotebut who knows what clown will be over Armagh this year.

Coco Grimley according to this mornings news.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 10, 2009, 11:18:25 AM
Quote from: teletubby on September 10, 2009, 10:11:04 AM
Quote from: Unknown on September 10, 2009, 12:44:29 AM
So teletubby bcos they owned greyhounds together u reckon they will be gud for the job... They wud never have taken anything to do with the dogs training wise, maybe they willget there dog trainer in and walk the county boys up to 4 mile a day feed on dog food and water then houlie and Oisin can walk them out to the field instead of a ball use a stuffed hare and they'll win all round them!!! LOL  ;D :D

:Dyeah thats right unknown,what i meant was they would have enough football experience between them, they would offer something.
Well I supose every1 deserves their chance and anybody will be a better appointment than that moron mcdonnell... Armagh need a new style of management and freshness! Goodluck to the lads if they get it r whoever does
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: robertemmet on September 10, 2009, 11:30:16 AM
Is John Rafferty in the frame?  Wasn't he involved along with Joe Kernan at one stage
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 10, 2009, 11:34:11 AM
Is that lad Hughes a Pearse Og's man or from another club????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 10, 2009, 11:56:54 AM
Quote from: robertemmet on September 10, 2009, 11:30:16 AM
Is John Rafferty in the frame?  Wasn't he involved along with Joe Kernan at one stage

Think i asked you before & you never replied, but what did Slaughtneil think of him?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 10, 2009, 12:10:00 PM
Brendan Hughes is originally from keady but lives now in derry where he is a teacher. his uncle was a founding member of the ogs Sam Johnston. His father was a member of the county board and minor manager in the 60/70,s. info received from Ogs committee man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 10, 2009, 12:30:58 PM
wandererer your well in the know,

did you enjoy a few pints on saturday night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 10, 2009, 12:52:42 PM
along with you
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 10, 2009, 01:19:53 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 10, 2009, 12:52:42 PM
along with you

Umgola doesnt drink, hes good living  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 10, 2009, 02:08:20 PM
correct onion bag, rumour has it you were partying in belfast as weekend  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 10, 2009, 02:21:54 PM
you mean he enjoys good livin, raffs will not be the same this sat nite ps best wishes for sat and hope ur returnin the compliment ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 10, 2009, 02:28:05 PM
of course, sure you know the craic  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on September 10, 2009, 03:16:14 PM
pat molloy and jackie morgan as no2 have their interview tonight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 10, 2009, 03:38:01 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on September 10, 2009, 02:08:20 PM
correct onion bag, rumour has it you were partying in belfast as weekend  ;)

News travels fast, who do you be talking to
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 10, 2009, 03:40:32 PM
Quote from: rootthemout on September 10, 2009, 03:16:14 PM
pat molloy and jackie morgan as no2 have their interview tonight

who and who
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 10, 2009, 03:42:59 PM
back room team: stumpy as motivator, dis as water boy, toutsie duff fitness coach, tommy moirs pro  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on September 10, 2009, 05:03:50 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 10, 2009, 03:40:32 PM
Quote from: rootthemout on September 10, 2009, 03:16:14 PM
pat molloy and jackie morgan as no2 have their interview tonight

who and who
armaghs most knowledgable gaa man,we could do worse  :Dtraining to start at shambles concluding at dampers ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 10, 2009, 05:05:38 PM
Wanderer I like the sound of that... Do u tink seany agnews bib would fit dis tho? :L
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2009, 06:04:17 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on September 10, 2009, 10:16:02 AM
wat about ogs manager brendan hughes as armagh manager he has ogs flying and must know his stuff would be better than houllie ???
We're really clasping at straws now aren't we.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2009, 06:22:02 PM
Quote from: teletubby on September 10, 2009, 10:11:04 AM
Quote from: Unknown on September 10, 2009, 12:44:29 AM
So teletubby bcos they owned greyhounds together u reckon they will be gud for the job... They wud never have taken anything to do with the dogs training wise, maybe they willget there dog trainer in and walk the county boys up to 4 mile a day feed on dog food and water then houlie and Oisin can walk them out to the field instead of a ball use a stuffed hare and they'll win all round them!!! LOL  ;D :D

:Dyeah thats right unknown,what i meant was they would have enough football experience between them, they would offer something.

Good or great players done automatically mean good or great managers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 10, 2009, 06:35:54 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2009, 06:04:17 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on September 10, 2009, 10:16:02 AM
wat about ogs manager brendan hughes as armagh manager he has ogs flying and must know his stuff would be better than houllie ???
We're really clasping at straws now aren't we.

I'm not saying he's the right man for the job, because I know little or nothing about him . However he's obviously doing a good job with Ogs and has been involved with the county minors the last time they won Ulster (2005 I think). Maybe you can tell us why it would be such a bad choice considering some of the names mentioned to date. Lots of people are simply looking a marquis name based on a playing career.

All the best managers had to be thrown in at the deep end at some point. Whilst not all great players make great managers the contra argument can be made that sometimes great managers weren't necessarily great players. You only have to look at the premier league in England for evidence of this.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 10, 2009, 06:38:39 PM
What about the current minor manager?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 10, 2009, 06:42:41 PM
would seamus heffernan and big liam be interested in going for it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 10, 2009, 06:44:21 PM
Beefer and Joe Mc Manus
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2009, 06:46:09 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 10, 2009, 06:35:54 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2009, 06:04:17 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on September 10, 2009, 10:16:02 AM
wat about ogs manager brendan hughes as armagh manager he has ogs flying and must know his stuff would be better than houllie ???
We're really clasping at straws now aren't we.

I'm not saying he's the right man for the job, because I know little or nothing about him . However he's obviously doing a good job with Ogs and has been involved with the county minors the last time they won Ulster (2005 I think). Maybe you can tell us why it would be such a bad choice considering some of the names mentioned to date. Lots of people are simply looking a marquis name based on a playing career.

All the best managers had to be thrown in at the deep end at some point. Whilst not all great players make great managers the contra argument can be made that sometimes great managers weren't necessarily great players. You only have to look at the premier league in England for evidence of this.
You know little or nothing about him but you think he could do the job because the ogs beat cross last week?  See that's the problem we're left with, I'm not having a go at you or the man himself.  We're just left clutching at straws because the whole thing is such a mess.  Next week we'll be down to suggesting members of the gaaboard for the position. 

I agree with the rest of what you're saying too.  In particular Oisin (no harm to him either) but has he ever done ANY coaching or managing? and the others named have taken a couple of clubs each and Smyth, I'm told, has taken one, his own.  I mean, Jesus christ!

btw, whoever does take it should get immunity from criticism!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 10, 2009, 06:48:22 PM
onion bag and the wanderer would do a job for armagh ;D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 10, 2009, 06:50:35 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2009, 06:46:09 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 10, 2009, 06:35:54 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2009, 06:04:17 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on September 10, 2009, 10:16:02 AM
wat about ogs manager brendan hughes as armagh manager he has ogs flying and must know his stuff would be better than houllie ???
We're really clasping at straws now aren't we.

I'm not saying he's the right man for the job, because I know little or nothing about him . However he's obviously doing a good job with Ogs and has been involved with the county minors the last time they won Ulster (2005 I think). Maybe you can tell us why it would be such a bad choice considering some of the names mentioned to date. Lots of people are simply looking a marquis name based on a playing career.

All the best managers had to be thrown in at the deep end at some point. Whilst not all great players make great managers the contra argument can be made that sometimes great managers weren't necessarily great players. You only have to look at the premier league in England for evidence of this.
You know little or nothing about him but you think he could do the job because the ogs beat cross last week?  See that's the problem we're left with, I'm not having a go at you or the man himself.  We're just left clutching at straws because the whole thing is such a mess.  Next week we'll be down to suggesting members of the gaaboard for the position. 
I agree with the rest of what you're saying too.  In particular Oisin (no harm to him either) but has he ever done ANY coaching or managing? and the others named have taken a couple of clubs each and Smyth, I'm told, has taken one, his own.  I mean, Jesus christ!

btw, whoever does take should get immunity from criticism!

not a bad idea, Umgola certainly knows his stuff, with El Cuevo in his back room team,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 10, 2009, 06:53:28 PM
would depend alot on the budget, dont want to bankrupt the CB
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 10, 2009, 06:59:16 PM
yous lads wouldnt be long going through a few pound alright, there would be a lot of w'ends away
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 10, 2009, 07:14:35 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2009, 06:46:09 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 10, 2009, 06:35:54 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 10, 2009, 06:04:17 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on September 10, 2009, 10:16:02 AM
wat about ogs manager brendan hughes as armagh manager he has ogs flying and must know his stuff would be better than houllie ???
We're really clasping at straws now aren't we.

I'm not saying he's the right man for the job, because I know little or nothing about him . However he's obviously doing a good job with Ogs and has been involved with the county minors the last time they won Ulster (2005 I think). Maybe you can tell us why it would be such a bad choice considering some of the names mentioned to date. Lots of people are simply looking a marquis name based on a playing career.

All the best managers had to be thrown in at the deep end at some point. Whilst not all great players make great managers the contra argument can be made that sometimes great managers weren't necessarily great players. You only have to look at the premier league in England for evidence of this.
You know little or nothing about him but you think he could do the job because the ogs beat cross last week?  See that's the problem we're left with, I'm not having a go at you or the man himself.  We're just left clutching at straws because the whole thing is such a mess.  Next week we'll be down to suggesting members of the gaaboard for the position. 

I agree with the rest of what you're saying too.  In particular Oisin (no harm to him either) but has he ever done ANY coaching or managing? and the others named have taken a couple of clubs each and Smyth, I'm told, has taken one, his own.  I mean, Jesus christ!

btw, whoever does take it should get immunity from criticism!

Definitely not but it's unfair to pre-judge a man when the truth is that we don't know of his capabalities or limitations. Unfortunately given the names of the other candidates involved it looks like we're scrapping in the bargain basement of managers of which Hughes could be one possibility.

Failing the absence of a white knight to sponsor a big name appointment (a la Galway with Aer Arann) this will continue to be the case. Many of the 2002 team are too close to the players, lack experience and in any case wouldn't accept the job under the current regime so we are looking at a limited list of alternatives.

If the county board were to tender the sponsorship of the county team to the highest bidder and hunt down the best man for the job with this package this would be the best route to take. Unfortunately this would take too much time and in any event would never be allowed happen under the present set up anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 10, 2009, 08:19:42 PM
pints should throw his name in the hat he seems to know everthing about anything and every1 else seems to be "against" him perfect or should i say typical for armagh manager, :P and bc1 could be his no 2 be like the media man talking down the teams chances while talking up the opponents. ;) ;D whoever gets it i dont think it really matters because armagh wont see croke park for a senior game in a while unless they get the dubs for a qaulifier ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: teletubby on September 10, 2009, 08:47:32 PM
whats the story with the right up in the Irish news today about Paul G is the door still open or is that just news paper shit?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on September 11, 2009, 08:04:56 AM
I think it is just a reporter filling a story.No truth whatsoever.Not an unkown thing for papers.
It suits them to keep the pot boiling,as it sells papers. I saw a lot of their reporters in the City hotel last night, Is their something in the wind? There were also County players there. And as well as all that our own Martin Maguiness,with his minder. Now all this is absolutely true. But?
Is Marty taking over? Are we about to get a big announcement? It could be. :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on September 11, 2009, 08:07:16 AM
Sorry guys, my mistake, it was the Irish News allstar awards!!!!. But see how easy it is to invent something. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 11, 2009, 09:04:13 AM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on September 10, 2009, 08:19:42 PM
pints should throw his name in the hat he seems to know everthing about anything and every1 else seems to be "against" him perfect or should i say typical for armagh manager, :P and bc1 could be his no 2 be like the media man talking down the teams chances while talking up the opponents. ;) ;D whoever gets it i dont think it really matters because armagh wont see croke park for a senior game in a while unless they get the dubs for a qaulifier ;) :D
ciaran mc keevers place on the panel threw into doubt and stripped of the captaincy!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 11, 2009, 09:54:58 AM
seen dis in kerrs yday trying on an armagh tee-shirt could be some truth in this rumour. however loco was with him which means stumpy could be gettin shafted for the motivator job. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 11, 2009, 11:57:11 AM
i heard talk that the men in black are going to strike this weekend over the incident after the g`more st pats game,if true no league games are even championship games,dont think they would have the balls sure isnt that why they are refs and not players ;D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 11, 2009, 12:08:36 PM
Well there is certainly no news of our championship game being called off.

It would be a shame if the refs were to go out on strike and to be honest it would be totally uncalled for. Fair enough an incident happened and no one should try and justify it but to punish the rest of the county is just unacceptable. What have the clans or the Harps got to do with a certain person from Cullyhanna hitting  a ref. The person to be punished is the individual and if neccessary his club. Leave the rest out of it. Refs make mistakes all the time and players don't throw their toys out of the pram and go on strike. They may argue and call them a few names but that would be it.

On  lighter note i think the GAA should look at implementing women refs to our game. I don't think they would get half the abuse and just think of the beating the clown would get if they laid a finger on her :D :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 11, 2009, 02:02:19 PM
just spoke to loco the rumour could be right, i asked him and he put the thumb and jestured his hands in some strange way.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 11, 2009, 02:09:22 PM
BC1 roll back the years see you made the gaelic life
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 11, 2009, 02:23:04 PM
Never mind the shite. 

Looking forward to this weekend's games, hopefully we can give a good account of ourselves.  Plenty of skelping at training this week, good to see, haven't seen them as nasty in a long time.

What's the prices about Lurgan gents for the Harps v Clans?  Haven't seen any prices in Armagh bookies here, but have heard Harps at 8/13?  Not suprising but I'd imagine the situation would be reversed near Lurgan.

This one will be tight, but hard to see anything other than a Whitecross win in the other game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 11, 2009, 02:35:49 PM
benny key forward missing? could be critical.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 11, 2009, 02:52:17 PM
Just after speaking to a Culloville man, big weekend for them, mullabawn and killeavey. Some talk of Ogs having a few injuries and resting players? but the clubs shouldnt be relying on other clubs at this stage. lookin forward to the weekend games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 11, 2009, 02:53:23 PM
French's Betting outright:

Clans 4/5 draw 7/1 and Harps 6/5

Clan Eireann 5/2 Draw 15/2 and Whitecross 4/11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 11, 2009, 02:57:23 PM
Paddy Power has it Clans 10/11, Harps 11/10

6/5 is an attractive looking price.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 11, 2009, 03:07:39 PM
Many people expected that Culloville would have progressed in the Intermediate championship and that Pearse Ógs would be licking their wounds. Instead Culloville are trying to save something from the season and the Ógs are only thinking of this game in relation to the their next championship fixture. This is what makes sport interesting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 11, 2009, 03:12:32 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 11, 2009, 02:53:23 PM
French's Betting outright:

Clans 4/5 draw 7/1 and Harps 6/5

Clan Eireann 5/2 Draw 15/2 and Whitecross 4/11

Aye French just copies the Odds from that Bar One Racing...

I hear Marsden & O'Hagan are playing tomorrow nite...not...where the feck did that crop come from, heard the lads talking about it last night.

Should be a good game and i certainly wouldn't like to have big money on either team...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 11, 2009, 03:27:55 PM
sure johnny Corvans playing for the Harps.  ps please leave ur loud mouth critics at home and thats for the clans sake, maybe they,ll still be in the pubs after cheering glenavon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 11, 2009, 04:03:10 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 11, 2009, 03:27:55 PM
sure johnny Corvans playing for the Harps.  ps please leave ur loud mouth critics at home and thats for the clans sake, maybe they,ll still be in the pubs after cheering glenavon.

Sounds like you're right good at the slabbering yourself saan, i dunno what your selling or smoking but keep it to yourself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 11, 2009, 04:18:09 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 11, 2009, 03:27:55 PM
sure johnny Corvans playing for the Harps.  ps please leave ur loud mouth critics at home and thats for the clans sake, maybe they,ll still be in the pubs after cheering glenavon.
you going see the armagh city game saturday wanderer? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 11, 2009, 04:30:20 PM
saturday nights game be a tight one.  clans improved quite a bit in the second half of the season, i remember after their defeat against sarsfields in trasna in the early part of the year alot of people condemning them to relegation so fair play to them for turning it around.  only saw them once this year against mullaghbawn was impressed with them, but not sure if it was them good or mullaghbawn bad.  will need big game from austin in the middle to help stop holmes/vernan/richards/swift.  also will need a big game from young campbell upfront along with marty lavery to try and get the scores. 

harps on the other hand got off to a flyer this year winning the first 4 games before drawing with the tones.  a terrible run after that meant that their season fizzled out somewhat, dissapointing for a team tipped by many to win the league at a canter after pushing cross so close last year.  they seemed to have improved over the last few weeks stringing together a few wins, including a convincing win over the nab in the championship.  they will be looking for big games from vernan/holmes/swift(who always impresses me at club level) and will rely on joe quigley for most of their scores.  marty mckenna probably be used as a good target man his battle with mickey austin be an interesting one. 

from a neutrals point of view, would like harps to progress because would love to see a harps ogs final(anyone know the lastime this was?) but it would also be good for north armagh football for the clans to progress where they would fancy their chances of going the whole way.  harps bench may just swing this game for them with toal and the other 2 lads coming back from america.  could be a draw this one but if had to pick a winner fancy harps to win by a point
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 11, 2009, 04:47:47 PM
1985 Pearse Og 0-7 Armagh Harps 0-3

Quote from: charlie stubbs on September 11, 2009, 04:30:20 PM

from a neutrals point of view, would like harps to progress because would love to see a harps ogs final(anyone know the lastime this was?)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 11, 2009, 05:17:34 PM
charlie your not up to speed in the armagh gaa history maybe u know irish league champs better?.  the last final was dire. are u just home from school maybe i was a bit critical as you are only a young whipper snapper.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 12, 2009, 08:22:32 PM
Harps 1-11 Clans 1-11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on September 12, 2009, 08:48:05 PM
Harps threw the game away tonight, 9 points up with 15 mins to go.  A good comeback from the Clans who looked well beaten, they hadn't even scored in the second half until  that stage then a point followed by a goal brought them back to a bit of life. 

Sean Morrison got a straight red with about 5 mins left which didn't help the Harps cause. 

Peadar Toal was in Good form tonight, scoring some excellent points and giving the full back a torrid time of it. 

Charlie Vernon was poor apart from a goal he scored in the first half, every other time he got the ball he gave it away.

Marty Lavery was very quiet for the Clans, Ronan Austin Played well in the last 15 mins to bring clans back into contention.

The Harps will be gutted that they never killed the game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on September 12, 2009, 09:19:19 PM
I have to agree with Jimmy Joe, harps threw the game away.  They seemed to loose shape altogether and simply let clans back into a game that they were winning convincingly.  I do think that they will however learn from their mistakes and win the replay!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on September 12, 2009, 09:23:33 PM
The Harps should win the replay alright.  They were definitely the better team on show tonight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: teletubby on September 12, 2009, 10:11:39 PM
was marsden or bumpy playing for clans or are they finished?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 12, 2009, 10:19:31 PM
i thought we were on top in the first 15 or so mins, only our shooting let us down big time, hitting 7 wides/dropped short. Harps very dangerous up front and to be honest will be kicking themselves after letting us back into it when we were 8 or so down. great character shown by the lads and we know we can still play better. CV lucky bastid for that goal, good save only for it land in his fuckin lap lol The sending off was a joke,complete coward and deserved to go, well done to the officials for seeing it and acting accordingly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on September 12, 2009, 10:27:21 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 12, 2009, 10:19:31 PM
i thought we were on top in the first 15 or so mins, only our shooting let us down big time, hitting 7 wides/dropped short. Harps very dangerous up front and to be honest will be kicking themselves after letting us back into it when we were 8 or so down. great character shown by the lads and we know we can still play better. CV lucky bastid for that goal, good save only for it land in his fuckin lap lol The sending off was a joke,complete coward and deserved to go, well done to the officials for seeing it and acting accordingly.

was at the game. talking to a man(a neutral) who was right in front of the incident and said that morrison never touched and shouldnt have been sent off.

harps should have killed the game when 9points up but fair play to clans played to the end. toal good for harps but wheres was quigley? austin did plenty of hard work in last 15mins!

whens the replay?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 12, 2009, 10:30:09 PM
He struck him at least once. He didn't get sent off for nothing, the match was videoed so maybe that will confirm if it is examined. Replay fri night 7.30 Athletic Grounds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on September 13, 2009, 12:26:44 AM
Was at the match tonight and the sending off incident was right in front of me. To be honest i saw two players going for the ball and then the Clans player lying down holding his face. Although it was that quick I might have missed it I did not see Morrisson hit anyone. Would add, however, that although noone around me could say for sure or not if there was a punch they were all convinced that there must have been! I actually thought Toal was the more likely to get send off for the Harps tonight. He was playing superbly and then was subject to an off the ball nudge (nothing too bad) and seemed to lose his way for a short time. Lennon also played well for the Harps as well as Gill. Thought the Harps faded very badly in the last ten - would this be a legacy of Nudie's time managing them? For Clans I thought Campbell did well in full forward and Ronan Austin finished the game well. The fella who took the final free (nash?) showed great nerve under pressure. Replay should be interesting.

Should also add that anyone who thinks Peadar Toal lis not a good footballer should watch the video of tonights game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on September 13, 2009, 07:23:01 AM
Aye Nash was cool under pressure for the last kick.

All this talk about the harps being completely dominant is rubbish lads. They had a period either side of the break where they put a lot of scores on the board without reply. The clans will be very disapponted as they dominated the start and hit some terrible wides from very scoreable positions.

Dwyer mcalinden and micky Austin were good in defence for the clans.
Looking forward to the replay.

Is wee Joe injured?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 13, 2009, 09:33:31 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on September 13, 2009, 07:23:01 AM
Aye Nash was cool under pressure for the last kick.

All this talk about the harps being completely dominant is rubbish lads. They had a period either side of the break where they put a lot of scores on the board without reply. The clans will be very disapponted as they dominated the start and hit some terrible wides from very scoreable positions.

Dwyer mcalinden and micky Austin were good in defence for the clans.
Looking forward to the replay.

Is wee Joe injured?
Yes clans took the start of the game and hit few good chances wide but the harps took a while to get into their stride.. They will be feelin down at letting a game in which they dominated from the 20 min mark in the first half until lets face it, I no they didn't play to there best but paudie Hughes gave alot of things clans way which led to them takin alot of easy frees!! Joe wasn't 100% obviousy.. Don't think the harps wudve sat him out otherwise.. Harps will win the replay without any problems
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 13, 2009, 09:43:39 AM
Heard last night that Cullyhanna were thrown out of next years championship. Since no-one has given an accurate account of what actually happened after the Granemore game, its hard to comment on whether this punishment is justified or not.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 13, 2009, 09:55:07 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 12, 2009, 10:19:31 PM
i thought we were on top in the first 15 or so mins, only our shooting let us down big time, hitting 7 wides/dropped short. Harps very dangerous up front and to be honest will be kicking themselves after letting us back into it when we were 8 or so down. great character shown by the lads and we know we can still play better. CV lucky bastid for that goal, good save only for it land in his fuckin lap lol The sending off was a joke,complete coward and deserved to go, well done to the officials for seeing it and acting accordingly.

A soccer like dive by the clans forward for the the equaliser that fooled that clown paudie hughes.

Harps should have been out of site. We lost our way in the last 15mins bigtime and the lads just couldnt get going, whether fitness was the problem plus we seemed to kick 4/5 stray frees straight into the arms of clans men which didnt help. I thought throughout the 60mins Clans won the Midfield, an area I thought we would dominate. Fair play to clans to come back the way they did, most other teams would have thrown the towel in, the goal seemed to lift them.

Hopfully the management will have the best 15 starting next week with kelly, lennon, mccoy, mcconville, coulter, McKinney & maybe Quigley all starting.

If Harps start with their strongest 15players its hard to see them not winning the replay

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on September 13, 2009, 10:04:13 AM
On a side note... What the f**k was the craic with the harps supporters over in the stands loudly cheering clans wides like they were at a premier league soccer match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 13, 2009, 10:36:56 AM
Who's coulter??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on September 13, 2009, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on September 13, 2009, 10:04:13 AM
On a side note... What the f**k was the craic with the harps supporters over in the stands loudly cheering clans wides like they were at a premier league soccer match?

That's rich coming from a Clans supporter
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on September 13, 2009, 10:50:58 AM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on September 13, 2009, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on September 13, 2009, 10:04:13 AM
On a side note... What the f**k was the craic with the harps supporters over in the stands loudly cheering clans wides like they were at a premier league soccer match?

That's rich coming from a Clans supporter

brilliant response! No answer at all.
I've no problem admitting our supporters are slabs. It's well known.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 13, 2009, 11:14:03 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 13, 2009, 09:43:39 AM
Heard last night that Cullyhanna were thrown out of next years championship. Since no-one has given an accurate account of what actually happened after the Granemore game, its hard to comment on whether this punishment is justified or not.
Maybe Tacadoir can, he's been very quiet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 13, 2009, 11:22:29 AM
The countyboard have some face on them trying to take cullyhanna out off the c ship for next year thats a rule that you just can not do i think the countyboard have enough on there plate with this meeting on monday night with all the clubs and then with the county players so people can ask y they did not want paul as armagh manager.Armagh must have the worse county board in ulster i think paddy og should step down along with all the other pricks that are around that table.cullyhanna will be playing in next years c ship the have a great team at getting out by using loop holes in the rules ha ha. just think back to the cullyhanna and the bridge fight when every player and manager from cullyhanna beat the life out off the bridge players and not one player served any time they know the rules so well in what you can and cannot do
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on September 13, 2009, 11:30:05 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 13, 2009, 11:14:03 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 13, 2009, 09:43:39 AM
Heard last night that Cullyhanna were thrown out of next years championship. Since no-one has given an accurate account of what actually happened after the Granemore game, its hard to comment on whether this punishment is justified or not.
Maybe Tacadoir can, he's been very quiet.

It's a big knock for St Pats.  Their league form could easily suffer next year with no appeal of a championship.  It's up to the club now to reprimand the individual.  It's not fair on the players and the club should punish him accordingly
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 13, 2009, 11:34:46 AM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on September 13, 2009, 11:30:05 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 13, 2009, 11:14:03 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 13, 2009, 09:43:39 AM
Heard last night that Cullyhanna were thrown out of next years championship. Since no-one has given an accurate account of what actually happened after the Granemore game, its hard to comment on whether this punishment is justified or not.
Maybe Tacadoir can, he's been very quiet.

It's a big knock for St Pats.  Their league form could easily suffer next year with no appeal of a championship.  It's up to the club now to reprimand the individual.  It's not fair on the players and the club should punish him accordingly
Reprimand him jimmy? are you serious? This is St Pats we're talking about. 

If it was any other club I'd say the punishment was unfair since it was one individual involved but considering the incidents the club has been involved in the last few years I've zero sympathy, in fact, it has been a long time coming. 

That said, I'll imagine they'll be appealing and I'll be surprised if they arent in next years championship. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on September 13, 2009, 11:36:02 AM
Quote from: back off the net on September 13, 2009, 11:22:29 AM
The countyboard have some face on them trying to take cullyhanna out off the c ship for next year thats a rule that you just can not do i think the countyboard have enough on there plate with this meeting on monday night with all the clubs and then with the county players so people can ask y they did not want paul as armagh manager.Armagh must have the worse county board in ulster i think paddy og should step down along with all the other pricks that are around that table.cullyhanna will be playing in next years c ship the have a great team at getting out by using loop holes in the rules ha ha. just think back to the cullyhanna and the bridge fight when every player and manager from cullyhanna beat the life out off the bridge players and not one player served any time they know the rules so well in what you can and cannot do

Gimp!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on September 13, 2009, 11:40:52 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 13, 2009, 11:34:46 AM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on September 13, 2009, 11:30:05 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 13, 2009, 11:14:03 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 13, 2009, 09:43:39 AM
Heard last night that Cullyhanna were thrown out of next years championship. Since no-one has given an accurate account of what actually happened after the Granemore game, its hard to comment on whether this punishment is justified or not.
Maybe Tacadoir can, he's been very quiet.

It's a big knock for St Pats.  Their league form could easily suffer next year with no appeal of a championship.  It's up to the club now to reprimand the individual.  It's not fair on the players and the club should punish him accordingly
Reprimand him jimmy? are you serious? This is St Pats we're talking about. 

If it was any other club I'd say the punishment was unfair since it was one individual involved but considering the incidents the club has been involved in the last few years I've zero sympathy, in fact, it has been a long time coming. 

That said, I'll imagine they'll be appealing and I'll be surprised if they arent in next years championship.

I'm not arguing with the county boards decision.  As you said, it's been a long time coming for St Pats.  But the club should also take action on the offender.  It is after all up to the club to control both players and supporters. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 13, 2009, 11:46:19 AM
Some chance of that Jimmy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on September 13, 2009, 11:49:50 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 13, 2009, 11:46:19 AM
Some chance of that Jimmy.

Well considering who is involved you could be right
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 13, 2009, 12:12:43 PM
Well from our match last night all i can say is we got out of jail alright with 15 Min's to go we were 8 or 9Pt's down...did Harps take their foot of the gas?, did the Clans up it a few gears? who knows. The Clans did drop 3 short into the keepers hands in the first 10 Min's along with numerous wides. However, the Harps took control from then and totally dominated until the last 15 Min's. They fully deserved their lead and TBH i thought we were dead and buried, we got a point and within a minute we got our goal which lifted us.

As for the free kick at the end i thought it was a soft enough free TBH but a few guys from that part of the ground say he was tripped so I'm not complaining at all. Best for the Clans was D McAlinden (overall) as most of them played rightly in the last 15.

Harps played rightly and i thought the no12 (i think) played well and for being small he def got some good hits in and was all over the show (was it Ebby Toal?), i was disappointed with C Vernon who did score the Harps goal and got plenty of possesion but did very little with it.

How will the replay go? is the momentum with Clans now? will Harps be determined not to let the Clans of the hook this time? We'll find out on Fri night saaan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 13, 2009, 12:35:29 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 13, 2009, 11:14:03 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 13, 2009, 09:43:39 AM
Heard last night that Cullyhanna were thrown out of next years championship. Since no-one has given an accurate account of what actually happened after the Granemore game, its hard to comment on whether this punishment is justified or not.
Maybe Tacadoir can, he's been very quiet.

Whether I can or not is none of your business.

As it happens I've been busy with more important things in the last week and haven't had access to the internet since the match until last night.

And yes, I can confirm we've been put out of the championship for next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 13, 2009, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 13, 2009, 12:35:29 PM


And yes, I can confirm we've been put out of the championship for next year.

And in your opinion TAM is the punishment fair?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 13, 2009, 12:48:49 PM
Did the man himself get any punishment tacadoir?   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 13, 2009, 12:51:25 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 13, 2009, 12:41:51 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 13, 2009, 12:35:29 PM


And yes, I can confirm we've been put out of the championship for next year.

And in your opinion TAM is the punishment fair?

Well I've always said that there's something inheriently unfair about players being punished for something they've had nothing to do with but the county board can only be expected to deal harshly with someone assualting a referee. Its just not acceptable and I've no real complaints about the punishment. My worry is that this could set the club back years and just when we looked like we were making strides towards challenging for major honours and have some excellent young players coming through. Its going to be very hard to motivate players next year, especially those travelling distances to play for us, and no doubt our league form will suffer as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 13, 2009, 12:51:37 PM
Quote from: Unknown on September 13, 2009, 10:36:56 AM
Who's coulter??

It's either Coco Coulter the captain of the minors last year who won the championship, or else declan coulter who's came back after cuchulainns went out of the championship.

alot people not giving vernon praise for his performance, he was playing wing half back which i don't think he's ever done in his life and still managed to get a goal. I heard the replay is Friday Night at half 7 in the athelic grounds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 13, 2009, 01:11:33 PM
Even when we were 8 or 9 points up I didn't feel we were playing well.  WE made too many positional changes to our starting and line up and the players seemed a bit a sea at times, how we were 5 pionts up at ht was a mystery.  Some changes worked well, like Peadar at ff to run the legs of the big fb, but others like Charlie at whb were mystifying, why play an intercounty midfielder there?  Thought harpo had a very good game but there is no need for him to play chf forward as he's there for breaking ball and scavenging and doesn't have to do from such a pivotal position, could do it just as well from 10 or 12.

team I'd like to see for replay
Richards
k morris, N McArdle, Gill
McCoy, holmes, McConville
Charlie & Philly McKinney
Harpo, Nippy, Ultan Lennon
Kevnign Kelly, Peadar, Joe Quigley

Clans will obviously take great heart from the game, but have to say it's ours to lose, we have far more talent, it's just getting them to play as a team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 13, 2009, 01:48:23 PM
Any word on ogs/cullaville?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 13, 2009, 01:59:21 PM
I think there is more improvement in that Harps team than Clans but fair play to Clans they showed a lot of fighting spirit last night. However if Harps play a few more of their returning players from the start (and they will now be justified in doing so) they have too much ability for Clans. Was impressed with Toal last night, that man is an enigma. Its also guaranteed that the county board will arrange it that Harps and Ogs avoid each other in the semis.

Incidentally I see Grimley has steered Clontibret into the Monaghan county final. i know its a bit further down the line but there could be a possible collision with Ogs in the Ulster semi-final. Interesting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on September 13, 2009, 04:20:16 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 13, 2009, 01:48:23 PM
Any word on ogs/cullaville?

Culloville won by 4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 13, 2009, 04:37:40 PM
Mullaghbawn & Killeavy both relegated then
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on September 13, 2009, 05:24:56 PM
Middletown beat Keady by 9 points in the hurling final 3-14 to !4 points. Could have been more. Middletown much the better team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 13, 2009, 06:36:32 PM
any latests from the Clann Eireann game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on September 13, 2009, 06:48:20 PM
Clan Eireann won by a point & now play the Ogs in the semis I believe.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 13, 2009, 06:52:03 PM
Harps Ogs Final could still be on the cards then, Interesting
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 13, 2009, 07:15:52 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 13, 2009, 06:52:03 PM
Harps Ogs Final could still be on the cards then, Interesting
Likewise an all-Lurgan final  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 13, 2009, 07:18:47 PM
absolutely, a strong possiblity of a good derby final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 13, 2009, 07:28:28 PM
Clann Eireann were impressive tonight, maybe whitecross underestimated them slightly and could have been more in it had all c/eireanns men stayed on the field. ref was poor, wouldn't let the game flow and blatantly favoured whitecross, the first sending off for clann eireann was diabolical. clann eireann were more physical and it was evident, they were dominant around the middle and their tackling was impressive. henderson was poor by his standards but still nicked a goal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 13, 2009, 07:31:18 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on September 13, 2009, 06:48:20 PM
Clan Eireann won by a point & now play the Ogs in the semis I believe.
U must have inside information then? I believe along with every1 else that it is an open draw made tonyt at 8pm??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on September 13, 2009, 07:32:46 PM
The draw was made straight after the Clann Eireann match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on September 13, 2009, 07:32:56 PM
Mullaghbawn are now down and i don't thing anybody could have an arguments...2days result was not a big surprise 2me and when safety was no longer in your own hands...you can not depend on our teams always to do u a favour...we have flirted wit relegation now for a number of years and hopefully we can rebuild and come back stronger...my only fear is that div2 is v strong in my eyes and it could prove difficult  bounce back straight away as the Harps lads will tell you....

Was just thinkin during the week that we have been in div 1 now for quite a few years and there are too many teams that hav remained in it for that long....but like everything else, things come to an end eventually as Cross will tel you this year....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 13, 2009, 07:37:35 PM
The 2 sending offs wer correct in my opinion... 1st s/o The c/eirren man swung his fists that's a clear sending off and the 2nd s/o man connected with punch deserved the red!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 13, 2009, 07:39:40 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on September 13, 2009, 07:32:46 PM
The draw was made straight after the Clann Eireann match
was it? So harps/clans v granemore and ogs v clann eireann?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 13, 2009, 07:39:50 PM
Quote from: Unknown on September 13, 2009, 07:37:35 PM
The 2 sending offs wer correct in my opinion... 1st s/o The c/eirren man swung his fists that's a clear sending off and the 2nd s/o man connected with punch deserved the red!!
what match were you at?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 13, 2009, 07:42:21 PM
They deserved to be sent off... Ur obviously a clann eireann supporter and ur going to defend them but it was the correct decisions!!! Get over it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on September 13, 2009, 07:46:58 PM
the First one was harsh, the second deserved
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 13, 2009, 07:47:29 PM
Quote from: Unknown on September 13, 2009, 07:42:21 PM
They deserved to be sent off... Ur obviously a clann eireann supporter and ur going to defend them but it was the correct decisions!!! Get over it
eh far from it saan! The second incident was a deserved red card. the first one was harsh, and it was a second yellow..and he didn't get it for striking, he got it for dissent, having fielded a ball, then got fouled, then was blown up for overcarrying!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 13, 2009, 07:50:19 PM
Fair play to Clann Eireann, not many gave them a chance(me included), but they deserved their win. 

Regarding the sendings off, the first one was laughable, the CE midfielder was clearly fouled and it should have been a free, he did react but with a clown like Slevin in charge it wasn't suprising he got the line, didn't see the second one, but apparently he can have no complaints.  Pity for him too as he was their best forward.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 13, 2009, 07:51:21 PM
Darw's meant to be at 8pm AFAIK.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 13, 2009, 07:57:22 PM
Supposedly harps/clans v granemore and ogs v clann eireann?? Although I heard draw ain't to 8pm... Can any1 confirm either way? Regarding the c/e 1st sending off he did swing his hands at whitecross man
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 13, 2009, 08:03:26 PM
draw was made after the c`eireann game and gave out over loud speaker ogs v c`eireann harps v g`more oh sorry harps/clans v g`more ;D :D well done c.eireann good win today and i do believe i said they would win :P  shane mcconvillle a good manager who can get the best out of his players and plays to teams strengths, co board take note ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 13, 2009, 08:26:46 PM
Wen are the semi finals being played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on September 13, 2009, 08:54:44 PM
Obviusly I'm a Clann Eireann man so im biased, but I thought our boys were unreal tonight.  We brought a real CHampionship intensity to the table and really deserved to win by more had we not been down to 13 men.  To be fair BEattie did react slightly, but not over the top enough for him to get the second yellow, and he was clearly being fouled! On top of this the ref consistently seemed to give 50/50 frees against us.  Although second one was def a sending off, he lashed out, no complaints.
But it is great to overcome things like this and still beat a team that no-one tipped us to beat  ;D.  I honestly feel if we hadnt have lost 2 men we'd have won by more. 
Bring on the Ogs!!  We'll be massive massive undersogs, but you just never know.  Anyone can beat anyone, could be a dream All-Lurgan Final  ;), instead of all Armagh City Final!!
Well done lads!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on September 13, 2009, 09:40:37 PM
Picture the scene A player running through at the defence, a defender sprints accross a takes him down with the boot. you would expect a red card No, you would be wrong! If the ref was the same clown who done the Clann Eireann game to-day. :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: KIDDO 4 on September 13, 2009, 11:12:47 PM
SFC Semi-Final Draw
13/09/2009
SFC Semi-Final Draw
Saturday 26th September 2009

Clan na Gael / Armagh Harps v Granemore - 7pm - Athletic Grounds
Sunday 27th September 2009

Pearse Og v Clann Eireann - 7pm - Athletic Grounds

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 13, 2009, 11:58:47 PM
Quote from: KIDDO 4 on September 13, 2009, 11:12:47 PM
SFC Semi-Final Draw
13/09/2009
SFC Semi-Final Draw
Saturday 26th September 2009

Clan na Gael / Armagh Harps v Granemore - 7pm - Athletic Grounds
Sunday 27th September 2009

Pearse Og v Clann Eireann - 7pm - Athletic Grounds

Is there any need for the winners of Clans v Harps to have play 3 weekends in a row?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on September 14, 2009, 09:43:43 AM
ogs v culloville game. ogs i think had less than half the team that played against cross on. They were 9 down at half time. they made a couple of changes for the second half and came back at culloville but the lead was just too much. well done to culloville for staying up. they looked dead and buried at one point. very dissapointing for killeavy and mullabawn.

Clan Eireann were excellent. very harsh sending off for their midfielder for a second yellow for dissent when it was he who was being fouled. the straight red was deserved for their number 14. clean strike.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 14, 2009, 11:08:11 AM
I have to say well done to both Clann Eireann & Culloville, Clann Eireann were expected to loose by most people and fair play to them they're now sitting in the semi final of the senior championship. Culloville, how the f**k did they pull that off. Again fair play to them...did they win like 5 or 6 in a row?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on September 14, 2009, 11:18:59 AM
Rumour has it that there were a number of Harps players on a 2 day binge after the match on Saturday.  Not exactly great preparation for the replay on friday night.   :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 14, 2009, 11:48:56 AM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on September 14, 2009, 11:18:59 AM
Rumour has it that there were a number of Harps players on a 2 day binge after the match on Saturday.  Not exactly great preparation for the replay on friday night.   :o

Sure our lads were coming out of the Foresters this morning at 9:00am, maybe the two teams could have a drinking competition instead of football :D it would be some contest and sure to go to extra time...lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on September 14, 2009, 11:58:26 AM
Excellent!!!

There could be a few angry heads playing on friday night then
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 14, 2009, 12:29:21 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 13, 2009, 11:58:47 PM
Quote from: KIDDO 4 on September 13, 2009, 11:12:47 PM
SFC Semi-Final Draw
13/09/2009
SFC Semi-Final Draw
Saturday 26th September 2009

Clan na Gael / Armagh Harps v Granemore - 7pm - Athletic Grounds
Sunday 27th September 2009

Pearse Og v Clann Eireann - 7pm - Athletic Grounds

Is there any need for the winners of Clans v Harps to have play 3 weekends in a row?

Its a bit tough alright considering that some teams can get a break of almost 2 years between championship matches. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on September 14, 2009, 12:34:20 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on September 14, 2009, 11:18:59 AM
Rumour has it that there were a number of Harps players on a 2 day binge after the match on Saturday.  Not exactly great preparation for the replay on friday night.   :o

This is a load of SH1t nt true
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 14, 2009, 01:13:37 PM
Quote from: topgun on September 14, 2009, 12:34:20 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on September 14, 2009, 11:18:59 AM
Rumour has it that there were a number of Harps players on a 2 day binge after the match on Saturday.  Not exactly great preparation for the replay on friday night.   :o

This is a load of SH1t nt true

Im in London and heard about this, this morning....bad form to say the least with a big championship game only a few days away


anybody on the monday club???  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 14, 2009, 01:35:29 PM
Quote from: topgun on September 14, 2009, 12:34:20 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on September 14, 2009, 11:18:59 AM
Rumour has it that there were a number of Harps players on a 2 day binge after the match on Saturday.  Not exactly great preparation for the replay on friday night.   :o

This is a load of SH1t nt true

There was a brave few of them in my local yesterday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 14, 2009, 01:39:31 PM
A brave few of who harps ones or clans ones onion
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 14, 2009, 01:40:46 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 14, 2009, 11:48:56 AM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on September 14, 2009, 11:18:59 AM
Rumour has it that there were a number of Harps players on a 2 day binge after the match on Saturday.  Not exactly great preparation for the replay on friday night.   :o

Sure our lads were coming out of the Foresters this morning at 9:00am, maybe the two teams could have a drinking competition instead of football :D it would be some contest and sure to go to extra time...lol



And that is a complete lie i'lldecide. 9:00am this morning. No one gets out of there that early :D :D



On another note. will it be the same ref for friday night or does it change because i thought Hughes did a good job the other night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 14, 2009, 01:54:55 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 14, 2009, 01:39:31 PM
A brave few of who harps ones or clans ones onion

Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on September 14, 2009, 02:09:47 PM
load of bollox, i was in the club after the match & the players all went home after something to eat
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gotthereb4u on September 14, 2009, 02:31:43 PM
Its true, a number of the harps players were drinking saturday and sunday. Stupid!!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 14, 2009, 02:49:28 PM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on September 14, 2009, 02:09:47 PM
load of bollox, i was in the club after the match & the players all went home after something to eat

there was about 8 or 9 of them (Harps players) landed in Lurgan and were spotted in the Ashburn disco during the small hours ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 14, 2009, 02:54:26 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 14, 2009, 02:49:28 PM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on September 14, 2009, 02:09:47 PM
load of bollox, i was in the club after the match & the players all went home after something to eat

there was about 8 or 9 of them (Harps players) landed in Lurgan and were spotted in the Ashburn disco during the small hours ;)
Any names?? Wer they 1st team players r subs? Was there a number of players on both teams out?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 14, 2009, 02:57:43 PM
I was messin about the Clans players in the Foresters, they were all tucked in bed for 11:30 on sat night because i took care of they're girlfriends for them (buying them drink ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Unknown on September 14, 2009, 03:05:04 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 14, 2009, 01:40:46 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 14, 2009, 11:48:56 AM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on September 14, 2009, 11:18:59 AM
Rumour has it that there were a number of Harps players on a 2 day binge after the match on Saturday.  Not exactly great preparation for the replay on friday night.   :o

Sure our lads were coming out of the Foresters this morning at 9:00am, maybe the two teams could have a drinking competition instead of football :D it would be some contest and sure to go to extra time...lol



And that is a complete lie i'lldecide. 9:00am this morning. No one gets out of there that early :D :D



On another note. will it be the same ref for friday night or does it change because i thought Hughes did a good job the other night
R U SERIOUS?? Paudie Hughes was a joke the other nyt... He shouldn't be allowed to do another c'ship game again!! He won't be doing the game on Friday and for both teams sake hopefully that other moron jim slevin is mower near it either.. Those 2 ruin wot could potentially be a good game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 14, 2009, 03:20:47 PM
Is the Wanderer on the Monday Club?  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on September 14, 2009, 03:51:12 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on September 14, 2009, 03:20:47 PM
Is the Wanderer on the Monday Club?  ;D

He could have been more aptly named the mumbler in raffertys last night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on September 14, 2009, 04:07:40 PM
QuoteRumour has it that there were a number of Harps players on a 2 day binge after the match on Saturday.  Not exactly great preparation for the replay on friday night.   :o

Is there any need to be a tout? People squealing on players does my fuckin head in
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy Joe on September 14, 2009, 04:29:05 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on September 14, 2009, 04:07:40 PM
QuoteRumour has it that there were a number of Harps players on a 2 day binge after the match on Saturday.  Not exactly great preparation for the replay on friday night.   :o

Is there any need to be a tout? People squealing on players does my fuckin head in

Boo Hoo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 14, 2009, 05:30:10 PM
"Tout"...lol thats a good'in. Haven't heard that in a while, your luck the Ra have disarmed :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 14, 2009, 05:41:32 PM
Quote from: Unknown on September 14, 2009, 03:05:04 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 14, 2009, 01:40:46 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 14, 2009, 11:48:56 AM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on September 14, 2009, 11:18:59 AM
Rumour has it that there were a number of Harps players on a 2 day binge after the match on Saturday.  Not exactly great preparation for the replay on friday night.   :o

Sure our lads were coming out of the Foresters this morning at 9:00am, maybe the two teams could have a drinking competition instead of football :D it would be some contest and sure to go to extra time...lol



And that is a complete lie i'lldecide. 9:00am this morning. No one gets out of there that early :D :D



On another note. will it be the same ref for friday night or does it change because i thought Hughes did a good job the other night
R U SERIOUS?? Paudie Hughes was a joke the other nyt... He shouldn't be allowed to do another c'ship game again!! He won't be doing the game on Friday and for both teams sake hopefully that other moron jim slevin is mower near it either.. Those 2 ruin wot could potentially be a good game

What did paudie do wrong the other night. I thought he had a good game. I would be very interested to here your thoughts unknown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 14, 2009, 05:43:54 PM
umgola tut tut sunday club not monday. what did you think of the draw? clan eirann looked sharp yesterday should provide u tough opposition in semi especially if they can keep 15 on the pitch. See the backstabbers were out in force after the draw. lets mount an appeal for beefer, 3 months instead of 1 only joking sean. :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 14, 2009, 06:27:04 PM
Quote from: Unknown on September 14, 2009, 03:05:04 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 14, 2009, 01:40:46 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 14, 2009, 11:48:56 AM
Quote from: Jimmy Joe on September 14, 2009, 11:18:59 AM
Rumour has it that there were a number of Harps players on a 2 day binge after the match on Saturday.  Not exactly great preparation for the replay on friday night.   :o

Sure our lads were coming out of the Foresters this morning at 9:00am, maybe the two teams could have a drinking competition instead of football :D it would be some contest and sure to go to extra time...lol



And that is a complete lie i'lldecide. 9:00am this morning. No one gets out of there that early :D :D



On another note. will it be the same ref for friday night or does it change because i thought Hughes did a good job the other night
R U SERIOUS?? Paudie Hughes was a joke the other nyt... He shouldn't be allowed to do another c'ship game again!! He won't be doing the game on Friday and for both teams sake hopefully that other moron jim slevin is mower near it either.. Those 2 ruin wot could potentially be a good game

Please God let it be Quigley, please! pLease! Please!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 14, 2009, 09:05:27 PM
wouldn't doubt it would be that clown. I think you are throwing one into him pints on the sly
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 14, 2009, 09:08:52 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on September 14, 2009, 04:07:40 PM
QuoteRumour has it that there were a number of Harps players on a 2 day binge after the match on Saturday.  Not exactly great preparation for the replay on friday night.   :o

Is there any need to be a tout? People squealing on players does my fuckin head in

Didnt see any names being mentioned
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 14, 2009, 10:25:32 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 14, 2009, 09:05:27 PM
wouldn't doubt it would be that clown. I think you are throwing one into him pints on the sly

:D :D :D either that or he is Quigley's brother ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on September 15, 2009, 07:30:42 AM
It will probably be the same set of officals,( the South Armagh Mafia) But the ref will be changed around. Maybe Oliver Hardy, sorry Hearty,same difference. ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on September 15, 2009, 08:16:13 AM
Well done to clan eireann. I didn't expect them to win but fair play...

I though Hughes had a decent enough game on Friday night. The harps ones can have no compaints because he clearly gave soft scoreable frees to both sides. I thought he was fair and it's not often I see that in Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 15, 2009, 08:36:36 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 14, 2009, 05:43:54 PM
umgola tut tut sunday club not monday. what did you think of the draw? clan eirann looked sharp yesterday should provide u tough opposition in semi especially if they can keep 15 on the pitch. See the backstabbers were out in force after the draw. lets mount an appeal for beefer, 3 months instead of 1 only joking sean. :D

Good draw, keeping the two city teams apart though with the Harps lads on a bender all weekend i wont be surprised if Clans take them,

Clan Eireann will make it difficult for ogs but expect them to pull away in the second half
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 15, 2009, 10:54:25 AM
Read the Irish news there and the ref is Kevin Murtagh for the replay...who is Kevin Murtagh and what club is he from...is he a good ref?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 15, 2009, 11:26:43 AM
he is from cross a brother of donals. must say not a bad referee and will certainly take no shit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 15, 2009, 11:52:52 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 15, 2009, 11:26:43 AM
he is from cross a brother of donals. must say not a bad referee and will certainly take no shit.

cheers wanderer i remember him now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on September 15, 2009, 12:08:04 PM
QuoteDidnt see any names being mentioned

Then why say anything at all? More than likely people will start asking questions now about who was on the rip and before you know it the Armagh rumour will have taken hold and every member of the Harps team will have the name thrown in the ring.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 15, 2009, 12:56:33 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on September 15, 2009, 12:08:04 PM
QuoteDidnt see any names being mentioned

Then why say anything at all? More than likely people will start asking questions now about who was on the rip and before you know it the Armagh rumour will have taken hold and every member of the Harps team will have the name thrown in the ring.

Its a GAA discussion board ROK!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 15, 2009, 01:35:42 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on September 15, 2009, 12:08:04 PM
QuoteDidnt see any names being mentioned

Then why say anything at all? More than likely people will start asking questions now about who was on the rip and before you know it the Armagh rumour will have taken hold and every member of the Harps team will have the name thrown in the ring.

Why are you so bothered, were you one of the Culprits
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 15, 2009, 01:42:44 PM
No he wasn't allowed to come out so he is jealous as fcuk . He hears all the talk about it so it must have been a good weekend and he is raging he missed it. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on September 15, 2009, 02:15:41 PM
QuoteWhy are you so bothered, were you one of the Culprits

No....but I was part of a team one time where one of the better players was at a wedding and had a few pints during a drinks ban. Nothing major. One of the other players was after his place and decided to tout to the managers and the rest of the team knowing he would get on if the man who had a few points was dropped. As the rest of the team subsquently knew about it the managers hands where tied and they had to drop the player and the tout got in the team, not on merit but just because he was a squealing ****.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 15, 2009, 03:08:03 PM
sounds familiar ROK!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 15, 2009, 03:19:35 PM
umgola knowing ur track record of socialising has it happened to u in the past. i,d be disappointed if it hasnt. ps are you home for the all-ireland so we can hitch up in raffs ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on September 15, 2009, 03:37:26 PM
It was many moons ago when i played football. TSome people agreed with the decision, some didn't. Team was split and it had a negative effect overall. Whereas if the tout had said nothing instead of bringing it up that the man had 3 or 4 pints at a wedding 2 weeks before a game, everything would have been orite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tout on September 15, 2009, 03:39:04 PM
What are you on rolloutking?? Trust you to support the drinkers. Just because you do not take your sport seriously, isn't that right DUDE  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 15, 2009, 03:43:58 PM
Dont think i will be home for it, got a county final in a few weeks so got to take it easy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tout on September 15, 2009, 04:12:58 PM
Another point that I should have made to you rolloutking is that intact 3 or 4 pints 2 weeks before a match isn't as bad as drinking the head of urself  at a formal 3 days before a county final? There should be no drinking fullstop and by the way wouldn't you like to no who I am DUDE  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on September 15, 2009, 04:38:31 PM
dont worry Tout, i seen your email address before you took it down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 15, 2009, 05:39:44 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on September 15, 2009, 04:38:31 PM
dont worry Tout, i seen your email address before you took it down.
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D







I could almost hear your chin drop tout as the king nailed you there
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 15, 2009, 06:01:30 PM
Quote from: rolloutking on September 15, 2009, 02:15:41 PM
QuoteWhy are you so bothered, were you one of the Culprits

No....but I was part of a team one time where one of the better players was at a wedding and had a few pints during a drinks ban. Nothing major. One of the other players was after his place and decided to tout to the managers and the rest of the team knowing he would get on if the man who had a few points was dropped. As the rest of the team subsquently knew about it the managers hands where tied and they had to drop the player and the tout got in the team, not on merit but just because he was a squealing ****.

Did yous win your match RK?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 15, 2009, 10:59:02 PM
Can anyone get the odds up for the replay on Fri night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: harlechman on September 15, 2009, 11:51:03 PM
Harps 8/11
Clans 11/8

with Powers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 16, 2009, 12:19:30 AM
Just seen boyle Sports has Harps 4/5 Clans 5/4...

Bar One Racing...anyone?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: robertemmet on September 16, 2009, 09:51:40 AM
All the best to the Armagh minor team and management on Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on September 16, 2009, 10:13:40 AM
QuoteJust seen boyle Sports has Harps 4/5 Clans 5/4...

Boyle sports has clans na gael at 9/1 for the championship outright and the harps at 10/1......

How can the harps be favourite for friday night but still be longer odds than clans for the championship outright?....wtf?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 16, 2009, 10:31:26 AM
Because they may think that if they won the Clans would have a better chance of beating the Ogs than the Harps would etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 16, 2009, 10:56:38 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 16, 2009, 10:31:26 AM
Because they may think that if they won the Clans would have a better chance of beating the Ogs than the Harps would etc

I've £200 on the clans to beat Harps this Fri nite and thats just because i've been dropped :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on September 16, 2009, 11:32:54 AM
Unless Clans have players returning from injury or suspension in the next few weeks I cant see how they could be underdogs on friday but still be better favourites for the championship than the harps. What logic or probabilty do Boyle Sports use that suggests the Clans would be better placed to beat the Ogs than the Harps?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 16, 2009, 11:37:55 AM
League position would be one major factor!!!

Maybe Boyle cught wind that the harps lads went on a 2 day bender after replay and probably thinking if tghey beat clanns they will be on it for a week thus pushing there odds out  :P

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 16, 2009, 12:01:42 PM
Umgola you know what the funny thing about last week was...we drove thru (the team bus) the Umgola estate after the match and all the Og's supporters were out in the street clapping us and cheering us on whilst driving past...funny as hell espicially when we beat them in the county final :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 16, 2009, 12:10:15 PM
You will have to give your bus driver better directions next time, going up that way wouldnt be the normal route heading to Lurgan,

theres a few harps ones on the row as well maybe they thought it was the harps driving past
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 16, 2009, 01:25:09 PM
Boyles go 1/6 Og's & 9/2 C. Eireann
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 16, 2009, 01:41:07 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on September 16, 2009, 12:10:15 PM
You will have to give your bus driver better directions next time, going up that way wouldnt be the normal route heading to Lurgan,

theres a few harps ones on the row as well maybe they thought it was the harps driving past

the team bus was directed out that way after the game lad because there was some blockage at the top of the normal way out. We were changing in Callan bridge and warming up there aswell.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 16, 2009, 02:38:19 PM
what state is callan park in at the moment

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on September 16, 2009, 02:42:36 PM
Quotewhat state is callan park in at the moment

Good shape because there isn't heavy training on it every night of the week. Grass is a bit long though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 16, 2009, 03:05:07 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on September 16, 2009, 02:38:19 PM
what state is callan park in at the moment

the pitch is better than the Athletic Grounds although the changing rooms leave a lot to be desired, come to think about it the changing rooms in the athletic grounds are not much better
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on September 16, 2009, 03:16:05 PM
Quotethe pitch is better than the Athletic Grounds although the changing rooms leave a lot to be desired, come to think about it the changing rooms in the athletic grounds are not much better

What do you expect? Plunge pools and a jacuzzi?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 16, 2009, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 16, 2009, 10:56:38 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 16, 2009, 10:31:26 AM
Because they may think that if they won the Clans would have a better chance of beating the Ogs than the Harps would etc

I've £200 on the clans to beat Harps this Fri nite and thats just because i've been dropped :D :D :D

I thought I seen you warming up the other night alright
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 16, 2009, 03:29:38 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 16, 2009, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 16, 2009, 10:56:38 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 16, 2009, 10:31:26 AM
Because they may think that if they won the Clans would have a better chance of beating the Ogs than the Harps would etc

I've £200 on the clans to beat Harps this Fri nite and thats just because i've been dropped :D :D :D

I thought I seen you warming up the other night alright

He wasnt warming up, if he doesnt move every so often his legs seize up  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 16, 2009, 03:48:09 PM
Quote from: full back on September 16, 2009, 03:29:38 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 16, 2009, 03:27:34 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 16, 2009, 10:56:38 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 16, 2009, 10:31:26 AM
Because they may think that if they won the Clans would have a better chance of beating the Ogs than the Harps would etc

I've £200 on the clans to beat Harps this Fri nite and thats just because i've been dropped :D :D :D

I thought I seen you warming up the other night alright

He wasnt warming up, if he doesnt move every so often his legs sieze up  ;)

Now there's a man who knows the score... :D :D :D Dead right saan. If i do the warm up and then stop my ankles just seize up completely and it's nearly impossible to get started again but that's the old age lads so it's better to keep on the move...I think i could be unleashed on Friday night to do a bit of damage :D :D :D R we still talking about football here :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 16, 2009, 07:05:46 PM
anyone know wher newtown madden game at tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 16, 2009, 08:39:50 PM
Armagh Division 2 Sunday 13 September 2009
Wolfe Tones 0-13 Maghery 1-10
Wolfe Tones produced a much improved performance on Sunday afternoon against title chasing Maghery and gained a vital point in the teams battle to avoid the drop to the third tier of Armagh football.  The Tones playing towards the clubhouse in the 1st half began with a John Toal wide in the 2nd minute.  John was quick to redeem himself, when after Michael Carson, who was arguably the best player on display, was fouled in the 4th minute and John converted the free from the right hand side. 
With their 1st meaningful attack, the Loughshore side found the back of Kieran Murray's net when their no.13 finished powerfully past Kieran Murray after 7 minutes.  The same player appeared to be on a roll and a minute later was able to escape the attentions of Chris Megoran to score from 21 yards. 
The next five minutes saw the Tones shoot 3 wides through Michael Carson, John Toal after winning his own free and Declan Lavery.  After 16 minutes Finnian Moriarty showed how it should be done after being found by a Ryan McQuillan pass was able to split the posts from 25 yards. 
After a Maghery wide, the away side where able to extend their lead after 18 minutes when their full forward was fouled and their no.10 had the simple task of converting the free from 21 yards. 
In the 22nd minute Brendan Coleman, who won countless breakball during the hour, was left unattended 30 yards from goal and reduced the lead to two points.  Chris Megoran then did well to pressure his man, and force him to kick wide before county player Stefan Forker converted a free for Maghery on 25 minutes. 
Shaun Smith then had the last say of the first half when he converted a free from 30 yards in stoppage time at the end of the half.  Despite playing well, the home side trailed to the goalscored in the 7th minute. 
Half time Wolfe Tones 0-04 Maghery 1-04
The 2nd half began with the two sides exchanging wides, Ryan McQuillan doing well to pressurise his man, then Shaun Smith was unlucky with an effort following a fine break from defence by Chris McCarron.
Five minutes into the 2nd half Maghery got the opening score of the second period after a well worked short free and their full forward punished the Tones from 14 yards.  The Tones response to this was immediate.  Niall Lennon, on his return, was a surging run forward and was pulled to the ground.  Shaun Smith from the left hand side converted the free from 35 yards. 
After 40 minutes the Maghery midfielder made a fine break through the Tones rearguard and extended their lead again to 4 points again.  Again the Tones showed good character to immediately respond to the Maghery score.  Johnny McCarron and Michael Carson combined to find Declan Lavery, who though of goal for split second before tapping over his first point of the day. 

At the mid point of the 2nd half after a fine Maghery move Stefan Forker raised a white flag from 25 yards. 
With 13 minutes remaining David Heaney done well to win possession and feed the on rushing Declan Lavery and Declan kicked a fine score with his left foot.  A minute later, after a Finnian Moriarty "45 " fell short Shaun Smith gathered possession who found Michael Crealey who calmly slotted the ball over the bar with his first touch of the ball. 
Kieran Murray then kept the Tones in the game when he made a fine reflex save which resulted in a Maghery "45" which came to nothing.  Niall Geoghegan then enjoyed a productive few minutes, firstly after making a surging run from corner back he kicked a fine score after a solo from 30 yards.  Two minutes later after Brendan Coleman was fouled , Niall took a quick free kick which resulted in Declan Lavery's 3rd point in the 2nd half to draw the sides level. 
With 7 minutes remained Maghery edged themselves infront again then their no.8 landed a point from 30 yards.  From the resulting kickout, Michael Carson won possession and found Shaun Smith 30 yards from goal and the sides where level again. 
In the 55 minute the Maghery no.13 converted a 14 yard free and two minutes later they appeared to get the insurance score whenever their no.5 came forward to score a great free from around 40 yards. 
The never say die attitude that the Tones players showed throughout the game came to fruition in the dying minutes of this game.   After a Maghery player had lifted the ball off the ground, with 2 minutes remaining Declan Lavery tapped over a 14 yard free.  Then in the last minute, after Michael Crealey had flicked the ball on, Niall Geoghegan drove through the Maghery defence and found David Heaney who fired over the equalising point. 
Great credit must go to the Tones team for never giving up during the game and showing terrific effort and commitment to bounce back from the previous week's terrible performance against Whitecross.  The same commitment will be required in the club's three remaining games against Maghery(A), Armagh Harps (H) and championship conquerors St.Michael's(A).
Wolfe Tones 0-13 Maghery 1-10
Tones Team:Kieran Murray, Niall Geoghegan(0-01), Ryan McQuillan, Chris Megoran, Michael Carson, Connor McCarron, Chris McCarron, Finnian Moriarty(0-01), Jonathan McCarron, Declan Lavery (0-04, 1f), Brendan Coleman, John McKeever, John Toal(0-02,1f), David Heaney(0-01)Shaun Smith(0-03,2f)Subs:Niall Lennon for Chris Megoran, Michael Crealey(0-01) for John Toal
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 16, 2009, 10:11:01 PM
madden beat newtown by point
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 17, 2009, 11:24:54 AM
So how do you guys see the replay going tomorrow nite? Will the Clans have the momentum? will the Harps lift it to another level?...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on September 17, 2009, 11:49:51 AM
I fancy the harps to finish the job, nut i reckon it will be tight, 2 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 17, 2009, 12:16:20 PM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on September 17, 2009, 11:49:51 AM
I fancy the harps to finish the job, nut i reckon it will be tight, 2 points
That seems to be the general consensus in the county, though IMO if Clans can contain some of the Harps forwards I see no reason why we can't nick it. We saw last week how Clan's reacted to being 9 pts down, how would Harps cope?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on September 17, 2009, 12:48:38 PM
i think the harps will finish the job tomorrow night. i expect them to win by about 4 or 5. however if clans can man mark peadar toal, which is easier said than done, they could sneak it.

it should be a good game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on September 17, 2009, 12:51:33 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 17, 2009, 11:24:54 AM
So how do you guys see the replay going tomorrow nite? Will the Clans have the momentum? will the Harps lift it to another level?...

it'll be close again.  the clans showed character which i didnt think they had TBH.  I still feel the clans wasted too many opportunities at the start of the game last week which wouldnt have allowed the harps to run up such a large lead.

also, the harps will more than likely improve around the middle than they did last week. will wee joe be fit?

again, goals will have a huge influence on this game and i have to say i expect the clans to win by 2 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on September 17, 2009, 06:17:18 PM
I thought Harps were extremely lucky last week only for Clans poor first half (and second to an extent) shooting, Clans dominated the start of the game completely!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 17, 2009, 11:21:26 PM
I think one could make arguments for both teams being unlucky and lucky by the way the game went.

Heard that a few Harps lads walked out of the changing room at the end of the game because Toal was selected to start the game, doesn't make for good moral in a team when this sort of thing happens.

Oh and lets harps the Harps aren't as lucky tommorrow night  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 18, 2009, 12:31:17 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 17, 2009, 11:21:26 PM
I think one could make arguments for both teams being unlucky and lucky by the way the game went.

Heard that a few Harps lads walked out of the changing room at the end of the game because Toal was selected to start the game, doesn't make for good moral in a team when this sort of thing happens.

Oh and lets harps the Harps aren't as lucky tommorrow night  ;)

thats utter nonsense WS.......

Good luck to the lads tonight. Harps by 7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 18, 2009, 10:12:43 AM
Fcuksake i heard that too...Apparently there were 4 Harps players in the changing rooms after the match either kicked up stink or quit because of Toal playing...i'm not trying to stir things up or anything ahead of tonights game i was genuinly told that last night...

Anyway that aside i hope it's a good game of football tonight and may the best team win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 18, 2009, 12:02:58 PM
Just stating what i was told fcuksake glad you could clarify it for me you must be a player
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on September 18, 2009, 01:24:42 PM
Harps will do their talking on the pitch tonight...
lol Now thats big talk  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 18, 2009, 03:28:24 PM
One shall see Berf saan ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on September 18, 2009, 04:15:59 PM
looking forward to tonights game,think it will be close with harps by 1-2pts,provided we move the ball bit quicker to our forward line,heard clanns went on one of skeltons trips the other day,when they got therethey had no tickets ;D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 18, 2009, 04:23:28 PM
Quote from: rootthemout on September 18, 2009, 04:15:59 PM
looking forward to tonights game,think it will be close with harps by 1-2pts,provided we move the ball bit quicker to our forward line,heard clanns went on one of skeltons trips the other day,when they got therethey had no tickets ;D ;)

:D :D :D :D So you know him too :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 18, 2009, 04:36:22 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 18, 2009, 10:12:43 AM
Fcuksake i heard that too...Apparently there were 4 Harps players in the changing rooms after the match either kicked up stink or quit because of Toal playing...i'm not trying to stir things up or anything ahead of tonights game i was genuinly told that last night...

Anyway that aside i hope it's a good game of football tonight and may the best team win
It's not true, the players knew the team on the Friday before the game, so that sort of alleged grandstanding after the game doesn't make any sense. 

Anyways, dont give a f**k if it's a good game as long as the result is the right one.  We undopubtedly have the talent, it's putting it together on the day that counts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 18, 2009, 05:10:31 PM
2nights game depends on which team plays to their potential. if the clans team that played the last 10/15 mins show up fom the start they not be far away, if the harps play the way they can, then they be hard to stop. i think be between the two forward lines myself because both are their strongest lines so i going to stick with the north and go for clans ...just.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 18, 2009, 08:15:52 PM
HARPS LEAD 3-6 - 0-5 at half time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on September 18, 2009, 09:07:01 PM
Harps won 3-11 to 1-12.  Well done to the Harps.  Thought they were going to let Clans back into it at the start of the second half letting them score five unanswered points!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on September 18, 2009, 09:07:38 PM
Harps win easy. Fair play to them. The three goals killed the clans. We only managed to play for about ten mins in the second half and in truth I think the harps could have went up a gear but didn't need to.

Didn't see what happened for Nash to be sent off but obviously quigley did. Anyone see it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on September 18, 2009, 09:18:23 PM
Yeah he was punching Harps No. 10 Ultan Lennon in the stomach right in front of lines man.........silly!!!  thought it would only have been a yellow though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: judas1 on September 18, 2009, 09:30:11 PM
well done dynesy & marty and all the lads, great win!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on September 18, 2009, 10:19:56 PM
First half goals from the Harps killed the game. Some strange refereeing decisions though. He gave a wide from a Clans free which looked over and that would have brought the game to within four points. Was also no need to send off the Clans man at the end for the second yellow.

Heard some Clans people saying that the referee or linesman had said he was going to get the Clans number 7, Nash sent off, which dully happened?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 18, 2009, 10:28:38 PM
In fairness I know linesman Quigley can be a moron but Clans half back was cuttin the fcuk outta Ulty Lennon right in front of him!!!

On a lighter note, scream of the nite was harps half forward HARPO for the national anthem... Facing the wrong way with the chest out and the whole place in tears at him!!!! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on September 18, 2009, 10:35:13 PM
good win tonight,thought we were going to blow it again at one stage,wewere slow to get going at start of each half and fair play to clans really came at us in 2nd half,thought if they got a goal we would be in trouble,have to say a good clans midfield,we couldnt get our hands on ball for ten minutes in second half but goals win games and we got them early and gave us a good half time lead,will have to improve to beat granemore,they have already turned us over twice this year but with boys getting fitter and wee joe to come back in think we can take them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 18, 2009, 10:42:21 PM
Well done Harps and good luck in the semi's. The best team won on the night and we can't have any complaints, as someone stated the goals killed us off especially as the first two were really bad errors from the Clans defence but thats the way it goes as I'm sure the Harps forwards putting pressure on them contributed to the errors. The Clans have a very young team with the exception of one or two and they will (hopefully) learn from this for the coming years...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 18, 2009, 10:53:57 PM
congrats to the harps. obviously gutted but they deserved it, better team on the night, hope u's go on and win it now.
Two of the goals i thought were gifted to the harps, and we just made it hard for ourselves. We showed some character in the 2nd half but it just wasn't to be. as illdecide says we have youth on our side and this team will be back!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 18, 2009, 11:16:18 PM
 the harps would be big favourites to progress to meet the ogs in the final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Muhammed McCarthy on September 18, 2009, 11:30:08 PM
Firstly well done to Harps, deserved win on the night, but have to perform for full hour to have any chance against Granemore.
Felt sending off of Clans No7 was harsh, Harps cleaned at midfield and with former Harps manager at Granemore I feel Harps are there for the taking.
Harps management lacking in experience through no fault of their own....yet years of experience at clubs disposal if only they would ask.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on September 18, 2009, 11:30:36 PM
Quote from: torres on September 18, 2009, 11:16:18 PM
the harps would be big favourites to progress to meet the ogs in the final

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on September 18, 2009, 11:32:38 PM
Some Pics from Harps V Clans

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157622281906591/detail/

Didn't catch the sending off as was following the ball at the time, was told by a neutral that there was a punch thrown straight in front of linesman.

Thought there was no need for the abuse the linesman got from fans, from the sending off till the end of game, with some coming down to the fence to shout abuse with only minutes to go and this from people with enough years on them to know better.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rolloutking on September 19, 2009, 12:18:29 AM
Bet placed?   :D Wtf?  ???

I doubt they will let us away with that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on September 19, 2009, 12:41:11 AM
Quote from: emainmacha on September 18, 2009, 11:32:38 PM
Some Pics from Harps V Clans

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157622281906591/detail/

Didn't catch the sending off as was following the ball at the time, was told by a neutral that there was a punch thrown straight in front of linesman.

Thought there was no need for the abuse the linesman got from fans, from the sending off till the end of game, with some coming down to the fence to shout abuse with only minutes to go and this from people with enough years on them to know better.

Great photos eamainmacha - thanks for those.

As for the sending off, when are people going to stand up and take responsibility for their own actions?

Very pleased of course to win the match, but I'd have to say that I felt a few nerves for the first ten minutes of the second half. From our point of view, it wokred out well, i.e. we won the match but with a lot of work still to be done. I would hope that the extra match will stand to our lads next week, and hopefully we can get Philly McKinney, Joe Quigley and Martin McKenna back in contention for starting places which will give us a few more options!!   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 19, 2009, 01:00:22 AM
Great photos.....

Excellent win tonight. Great first half display, and credit to Clans for not throwing n the towel. i feel if their 6th unanswered point had of stood it may have been a different story, but some good work by Kevin Kelly stopped clans momentum.

As RTF says, we still have a few options on the line. Hope Peadar Toals injury isnt too serious. Next week will be alot tougher as Granemore have beat us well in the 2 league outings  so they will be favourites.

Well Done to the lads and the management team as the Dynes & Grimley have been thrown in at the deep end.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on September 19, 2009, 01:25:58 AM
As an Ogs supporter I was neutral regarding outcome of game, thought Clans weren't in the hunt in the middle of the field most of the game and Harps just overwhelmed them in first half.

Was surprised that the Harps didn't come out firing on all cylinders in second half, thought after first game they'd want to make sure that not caught again.

Best team won, and hope Peadar isn't too badly injured, hate for an injury to badly affect any teams chances of progressing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ulster Exile on September 19, 2009, 01:33:08 AM
Quote from: swagger on September 18, 2009, 11:58:31 PM
here lads boyle sports are still offering betting for harps v clans, and there still taking the bets, lump on!!!!

Smart move posting that on the board swagger, real smart.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 19, 2009, 07:52:25 AM
any chance you could take that off swagger?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 19, 2009, 09:11:58 AM
Great photo's, you even got the half time show. :D :D

Torres i don't know how you think Harps will be favourites as granemore have beaten them twice already this year and have beaten two division 1 teams.  i think Granemore will be slight favourites and it should be a very interesting match.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 19, 2009, 09:48:21 AM
Well done to Harps, deserving victors.  Thought we had a lot more shape than last week as we didn't try to be too clever and played to our strengths.  Clans outperformed us in MF but it didn't prove fatal.  Thought Collie Holmes going to FB during the second half made us look a lot more solid.

Poor start to both halves, was starting to get worried in the second half, but a score settled us down.  AS stated already we've 3 players to come back in and plenty of others chomping at the bit on the sideline, good situation to be in. 

Granemore gave us a couple of hidings in the league, but we'll have half a dozen or more available to us now that didn't play against them in the league.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on September 19, 2009, 10:14:43 AM
Speaking of the half time show. What's the craic with the hundred kids coming on the field and not being told to leave the field even with the harps team back on the field for the second half. Ridiculous... Wouldn't even be allowed at a club league game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ONeill on September 19, 2009, 10:18:45 AM
Quote from: emainmacha on September 18, 2009, 11:32:38 PM
Some Pics from Harps V Clans

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157622281906591/detail/


Big fan of your photostreams, Emainmacha. Keep er lit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on September 19, 2009, 11:48:00 AM
Quote from: emainmacha on September 18, 2009, 11:32:38 PM
Some Pics from Harps V Clans

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157622281906591/detail/

Didn't catch the sending off as was following the ball at the time, was told by a neutral that there was a punch thrown straight in front of linesman.

Thought there was no need for the abuse the linesman got from fans, from the sending off till the end of game, with some coming down to the fence to shout abuse with only minutes to go and this from people with enough years on them to know better.

Terrific photographs - well done.
Anyone know who the fat man going bald and standing with his back to the linesman is and why was he inside the enclosure?  Seem rather unusual.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 19, 2009, 12:05:36 PM
Dessie McDonnell, part of the Co. Board set up n had a walkie talkie! Was the link between commentators n referee etc...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 19, 2009, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on September 19, 2009, 09:11:58 AM
Great photo's, you even got the half time show. :D :D

Torres i don't know how you think Harps will be favourites as granemore have beaten them twice already this year and have beaten two division 1 teams.  i think Granemore will be slight favourites and it should be a very interesting match.
basically nutsy--1 its because in the 2 league meetings the harps were understrength and have since added the likes of p toal , k kelly , d coulter , m mc conville and a few others , so for these reasons i,d say the harps are big favourites to go to the final plus you,s have quigley , morrison to call on so to me thats a very strong line-up nearly on par with what the harps had  out when running c-maglen so close last year and they will put it up  to the ogs / c eirann in the final .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on September 19, 2009, 12:53:39 PM
Quote from: Candyman on September 19, 2009, 12:05:36 PM
Dessie McDonnell, part of the Co. Board set up n had a walkie talkie! Was the link between commentators n referee etc...

Are you serious Candyman?  Why would you need a link between the commentators and the referee?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on September 19, 2009, 01:10:02 PM
How many mins of extra time to be played etc! Basically there as a steward...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on September 19, 2009, 02:14:03 PM
The linesmans photo was taken before start of game (more of a test shot to check camera settings) so the man in backround wasn't inside the sideline during play, unless he was at one of the tables in front of dugouts.

Glad a few of you enjoy the pics, though floodlight match photos aren't as good as would like.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 19, 2009, 07:06:41 PM
Quote from: torres on September 19, 2009, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on September 19, 2009, 09:11:58 AM
Great photo's, you even got the half time show. :D :D

Torres i don't know how you think Harps will be favourites as granemore have beaten them twice already this year and have beaten two division 1 teams.  i think Granemore will be slight favourites and it should be a very interesting match.
basically nutsy--1 its because in the 2 league meetings the harps were understrength and have since added the likes of p toal , k kelly , d coulter , m mc conville and a few others , so for these reasons i,d say the harps are big favourites to go to the final plus you,s have quigley , morrison to call on so to me thats a very strong line-up nearly on par with what the harps had  out when running c-maglen so close last year and they will put it up  to the ogs / c eirann in the final .

Good point maybe harps will be favourites for it but granemore will be hard to beat and hopefully it will be a good match to watch against two good teams. Has granemore a chance of promotion still???

another thing, i think its good to see the young ones on the pitch at half time they don't do much harm and once the game is about restart they clear off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 19, 2009, 07:39:33 PM
yeah nutsy--1 still a chance of promotion beat tir na nog by 7 pts today still have maghery to play twice ,silverbridge,ballymcnab , were 2 pts behind maghery with a game in hand .
hopefully the championship  will be a good game between 2 well-matched sides and anything can happen on the day but still feel the harps have a lot more options . reguarding the youngsters on the field , i dont think its right that 50/60 kids with hurleys and footballs should be allowed on the field yet the subs are,nt .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 20, 2009, 12:45:49 AM
I have been on holiday abroad all week and didn't read this weeks papers ( irish news ) until tonight.
An awful lot of hype.
Too many interviews
Surely these young lads should not have been allowed to give interviews to journalists on the eve of this important match. :o :o
Hope it does not affect their performance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bellaghy_lad on September 20, 2009, 03:07:35 PM
well done to armagh minors. great finish.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on September 20, 2009, 10:08:23 PM
Congrats to all involved with the minors great way to round off a great year unbeaten.

As a young lad of 10 my earliest memory of armagh, was a 17 point hammering in the first round of the ulster at the hands of Derry in the Athletic Grounds in 1995 and then in 1997 a defeat to Tyrone up in Omagh in the championship, so when in 1999 up in ballybofey after the nightmare start, a draw seemed an unreal result, but winning ulster that year was outstanding, the first in 17 years, so if someone would had have siad to me that in the next ten years that we would win our first all ireland 2002 and national league 2005, u21 all ireland 2004, and today a minor all ireland 2009, along with ulster minors 2005, ulster u21 2006, and 7 senior ulsters i would have laughed my head off so thanks Armagh for a great ten years and hopefully the next ten will be even better.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tree tops on September 21, 2009, 12:30:42 PM
Congratulations on the minor win yesterday from a Dungiven Gael
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 21, 2009, 03:17:11 PM
OUTRIGHT BETTING

4/9 - PEARSE OGS
9/2 - GRANEMORE
9/2 - ARMAGH HARPS
11/1 - CLANN EIREANN

MATCH BETTING

Evs HARPS   7/1 DRAW   GRANEMORE Evs

1/5 PEARSE OGS   8/1 DRAW   CLANN EIREANN 4/1


BETTING FROM BAR-ONE RACING
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: teletubby on September 21, 2009, 08:25:52 PM
Wel done to the armagh minors great result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 21, 2009, 08:37:40 PM
Quote from: topgun on September 20, 2009, 10:08:23 PM
Congrats to all involved with the minors great way to round off a great year unbeaten.

As a young lad of 10 my earliest memory of armagh, was a 17 point hammering in the first round of the ulster at the hands of Derry in the Athletic Grounds in 1995 and then in 1997 a defeat to Tyrone up in Omagh in the championship, so when in 1999 up in ballybofey after the nightmare start, a draw seemed an unreal result, but winning ulster that year was outstanding, the first in 17 years, so if someone would had have siad to me that in the next ten years that we would win our first all ireland 2002 and national league 2005, u21 all ireland 2004, and today a minor all ireland 2009, along with ulster minors 2005, ulster u21 2006, and 7 senior ulsters i would have laughed my head off so thanks Armagh for a great ten years and hopefully the next ten will be even better.

Good post.
Some of us really do appreciate our recent success but there are other so called fans who are still not happy. ???

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ulster Exile on September 21, 2009, 09:03:09 PM
9-2 on Harps seems like great value to me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 21, 2009, 09:50:22 PM
well done to the management team and players on a great year winning the league,ulster and now all ireland unbeaten so well done to all.The future is bright its orange and white ;) have faith in youth get rid of the deadwood even if it takes 2/3 years to win something.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 22, 2009, 09:54:37 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on September 21, 2009, 09:50:22 PM
well done to the management team and players on a great year winning the league,ulster and now all ireland unbeaten so well done to all.The future is bright its orange and white ;) have faith in youth get rid of the deadwood even if it takes 2/3 years to win something.

It's a bit disrespectful to describe players, who have given their all for the county over a number of years, as deadwood.

You must have been some player yourself. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on September 22, 2009, 10:27:19 PM
Pics from Minors homecoming in athletic grounds

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157622310097111/detail/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 23, 2009, 10:50:01 AM
I see the Mc Entee's has hung the boots, i can't say im suprised and i expect a few others aswell. they've had a brilliant career and are role-models for any young person to look up to.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 23, 2009, 05:29:37 PM

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It's a bit disrespectful to describe players, who have given their all for the county over a number of years, as deadwood.

You must have been some player yourself. ???
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i wouldnt call any player who has given their all for the county deadwood crossfire u did my friend what i would call deadwood inthe armagh panel are the ones who have been hanging around for the last few years and havent featuered are mad the grade sort of speak why hold onto these players when clearly we have a good brand of youth coming through who are good enough
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Doire abú on September 23, 2009, 08:11:31 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on September 23, 2009, 10:50:01 AM
I see the Mc Entee's has hung the boots, i can't say im suprised and i expect a few others aswell. they've had a brilliant career and are role-models for any young person to look up to.

What about this interview with a 19-year old Tony McEntee in 1997:
http://hoganstand.com/Armagh/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=44519

Check out the last question!  :o :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 23, 2009, 08:36:13 PM
QuoteCheck out the last question!

Amazing. I hope he can look back and say that he has achieved his ambition.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 23, 2009, 08:43:44 PM
Was that interview not after their first club all ireland? So it wasn't exactly a bold prediction. 

Good luck to the two boys anyway, two gents and legends of the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stiffler on September 23, 2009, 08:58:49 PM
DO YOU HAVE ANY RELATIVES INVOLVED IN GAELIC GAMES?: Lots of cousins


What about John Mc  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 24, 2009, 09:48:53 AM
Interesting news about Marty Clarke coming back to Down, this might well be an influence on Dyas.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Abble on September 24, 2009, 11:00:51 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 24, 2009, 09:48:53 AM
Interesting news about Marty Clarke coming back to Down, this might well be an influence on Dyas.

fingers crossed ! was first thing i thought when hearing about clarke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 24, 2009, 12:36:49 PM
Quote from: stiffler on September 23, 2009, 08:58:49 PM
DO YOU HAVE ANY RELATIVES INVOLVED IN GAELIC GAMES?: Lots of cousins


What about John Mc  ???

Do you not think a stupid question deserved a flippant answer?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 24, 2009, 02:05:08 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 24, 2009, 09:48:53 AM
Interesting news about Marty Clarke coming back to Down, this might well be an influence on Dyas.
dyas is also coming home
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on September 24, 2009, 10:37:33 PM
very quiet on here regarding championship,prediction;harps by2pts,ogs by5pts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 24, 2009, 11:09:09 PM
Two comfortable wins for the city teams imo so they can get their wee dream final  ;)
Some people have been hyping up Granemore and i would fancy them to be in div1 next year myself, but i think the harps have far too many options all over the field. thats not to say granemore won't push them all the way, but having seen harps been dominated round the middle and still go on and win against Clans i think they'll get past with a few to spare. Harps by 3-4
Clann Eireann should put it up to Ogs in the other semi but whether they can last the whole 60mins is another thing. Their intensity was exceptional against whitecross but i just feel Ogs have too much class to lose this one. Ogs by 5+
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on September 24, 2009, 11:42:12 PM
Get your money on the Harps to beat Granemore @ Evs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 25, 2009, 11:37:58 AM
Kaaat ur to young to be betting and losing money. leave it to the big boys!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on September 25, 2009, 12:03:03 PM
Quote from: naka on September 24, 2009, 02:05:08 PM
dyas is also coming home

Really?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 25, 2009, 07:38:54 PM
Quote from: Donagh on September 25, 2009, 12:03:03 PM
Quote from: naka on September 24, 2009, 02:05:08 PM
dyas is also coming home

Really?

I heard this aswell i heard he's had alot of injuries and he's not fit enough for aussie rues due to this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 25, 2009, 09:01:26 PM
Granemore to beat Harps - Harps almost blew a 9 point lead and a 10 point lead! In the second case they were handed 3 goals and still almost blew it. They are a ten minute team and have no character/leaders! Of course im leaving myself open to be castrated tomorrow if they win but ill take my chances.

Ogs to beat Clan Eireann although I think this could be alot tighter than people think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 26, 2009, 10:02:37 AM
wouldnt say i agree that Harps only dominated for 10 mins, sure they effectively dominated the first half.

Granemore will be a different opposition tonight. I know Harps have suffered to 2 heavy league defeats to them but Harps will have a totally different 15 on the field tonight and I would hope we will come through with 4-5 points.

Good luck to the management and players tonight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 26, 2009, 11:57:36 AM
Ladbrookes have Granemore at 3/2 lads if you fancy this punt. Open an account and they will match your first bet so you will get it virtually for free if you fancy a stab :o :o :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 26, 2009, 01:12:13 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on September 26, 2009, 10:02:37 AM


I know Harps have suffered to 2 heavy league defeats to them but Harps will have a totally different 15 on the field tonight and I would hope we will come through with 4-5 points.


i,d agree with that and feel the harps are big favourites to progress to a final meeting with the ogs .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 26, 2009, 03:00:29 PM
I can't see harps being beat tonight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on September 26, 2009, 07:51:25 PM
Anyone got the latest score?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Square Ball on September 26, 2009, 07:58:21 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on September 26, 2009, 07:51:25 PM
Anyone got the latest score?

5 all, see latest scores on the GAA bit
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Passing_Interest on September 26, 2009, 08:26:04 PM
Somebody get on the phone to Johnny Corvan quick........tell him to get the flight booked
We're in the County Final Yesssssssss !
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 26, 2009, 08:49:24 PM
final score

Harps 0-10
Granemore 0-6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on September 26, 2009, 08:52:44 PM
IMO Better team won

Granemore obviously spent alot of time defending in training as their shooting contributed to their defeat.
Charlie vernon, oustanding not many players could make toner look average.
Holmesy - almost a faultless display. Great to watch.
Toots - excellent display on oconnor

Good luck to the lads in final and good luck to our kerry coloured nieghbours
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 26, 2009, 09:00:24 PM
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on September 26, 2009, 08:52:44 PM
IMO Better team won

Granemore obviously spent alot of time defending in training as their shooting contributed to their defeat.
Charlie vernon, oustanding not many players could make toner look average.
Holmesy - almost a faultless display. Great to watch.
Toots - excellent display on oconnor

Good luck to the lads in final and good luck to our kerry coloured nieghbours
would agree with most of this but o,connor won nearly every ball that went into him and kicked at least 4 wides when under no real pressure , maybe the pressure of the occasion got to  him and some of the other forwards as they definalty kicked themselves out of  it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on September 26, 2009, 09:04:58 PM
Quote from: torres on September 26, 2009, 09:00:24 PM
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on September 26, 2009, 08:52:44 PM
IMO Better team won

Granemore obviously spent alot of time defending in training as their shooting contributed to their defeat.
Charlie vernon, oustanding not many players could make toner look average.
Holmesy - almost a faultless display. Great to watch.
Toots - excellent display on oconnor

Good luck to the lads in final and good luck to our kerry coloured nieghbours
would agree with most of this but o,connor won nearly every ball that went into him and kicked at least 4 wides when under no real pressure , maybe the pressure of the occasion got to  him and some of the other forwards as they definalty kicked themselves out of  it


think thats mc convilles game, not many men get past him.

***

Great team result and great to see as harps had a lot of shit thrown their way on this thread and board in relation to management rumours, committee members resigning, players left etc. and its great to see them all flagging the blue and white in the final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 26, 2009, 09:25:36 PM
Cross beat Grange easily in minor championship.

Any other results.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on September 26, 2009, 09:29:21 PM
cant see you,s beating the ogs as they are a lot better defensively than granemore were .ogs to win by 5
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I'm sure you mean no disrespect to Clann Eireann, of course!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 27, 2009, 12:14:22 AM
Quote from: Skiddybadoo on September 26, 2009, 09:29:21 PM
cant see you,s beating the ogs as they are a lot better defensively than granemore were .ogs to win by 5

I'm sure you mean no disrespect to Clann Eireann, of course!
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of course not , i just felt this season this was their best chance to beat cross and go on to claim the senior championship and i hope they beat c eirann [ no disrespect] and go on to beat the harps  ;D.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on September 27, 2009, 12:35:08 AM

Good luck to Armagh Harps in the final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on September 27, 2009, 09:30:51 AM
3 Videos are now available from the Harps 4 point victory over Granemore last night in the Athletic Grounds.

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Videos-as-Harps-reach-SFC-Final.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 27, 2009, 10:01:12 AM
Good feeling to be sitting in a County Final this morning. ;D

Undoubtedly Granemore will rue their missed chances but I thought we were more than worthy winners, part and parcel of the game is taking your chances and we certainly did that and could afford to miss a clear goal chance near the end.

Thought our victory was won at MF, Vernon and Nippy were a delight to watch.  Charlie hasn't been having a great run since his broken jaw, but he showed his class last night outfielding Toner on numerous ocassions.  Nippy also made an incredible Aussie Rules style catch during the second half.  We had a solid look about us all over the field and didn't display the nerves that could have proved costly in the Clans game, I'd say the extra game probably brought us on a fair bit.

Great credit to the management too, we were spot on tactically and I thought Granemore became very predicatable very early on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 27, 2009, 11:48:24 AM
was at the match last night and thought it was a game of 2 halfs as they say. granemore should have been at least 3/4 up at half time allthough keeper pulled a great save off nippy swift who made a great run through for goal. 2nd half was nip n tuck with harps showing a bit more class going forward taking more of their scoring chances and playing like a team as the first half they just seemed as if they wanted to get on the score sheet themselves thus not giving the ball to the player in a better position to score. swift,holmes,vernan,morris were all very good with harps no7? man of the match in my mind,always on the ball and a great outlet coming out of defence ,always available for kickouts and never stoped going forward. granemore good side who work hard for each other and are very sound in defence but will fell they kicked themselves out of it, however on the night the best team overall won. you need to take your chances in championship and thats what harps(eventually) did. mcclelland and no 5? for granemore were good. what no was o connor
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 27, 2009, 12:02:24 PM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 27, 2009, 12:13:18 PM
maybe some of the harps boys can clears this up for me but on the armagh website i was watching the videos of last nights game and reaction and in most of the interviews they were all saying its 20 years since harps were in a co final but did they not beat maghery in the 1991 final  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 27, 2009, 12:24:57 PM
1995 was our last final, beaten by Mullaghbawn.  Did beat Maghery in 1991 and St Pauls in 1989.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Any craic on September 27, 2009, 02:57:04 PM
Its a bit confusing alright but I thought the captain and Declan Coulter were saying the Harps were last in a Final in 91 (thats in the Irish News yesterday too). Martin Grimley was referring more to 89 because he retired after winning the final that year. Good crowd there, by the looks of it. And who was Harps 15, pretty good.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on September 27, 2009, 04:23:40 PM
I think Kevin Kelly was 15.
Harps minors won this afternoon out in maghery, result was never in doubt they play Clan na gael next saturday in abbey park.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on September 27, 2009, 06:22:34 PM
Harps minors play clan na gael next saturday @ abbey p.k
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on September 27, 2009, 07:26:12 PM
Ogs 0-9 Clan Eireann 0-1

Clans now down to 14 men 0-10 to 0-1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 27, 2009, 07:47:27 PM
Keep them coming Harpo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on September 27, 2009, 07:57:36 PM
Ogs 0-10 Clan Eireann 0-5

0-11 to 0-7 now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on September 27, 2009, 08:22:48 PM
city final come on the harps ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 27, 2009, 08:24:27 PM
What was the final score in tonights game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on September 27, 2009, 08:25:14 PM
Ogs 0-18 Clan Eireann 0-11 ft
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 27, 2009, 08:33:59 PM
Good Game? any one got a report
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on September 27, 2009, 08:39:52 PM
16.11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on September 27, 2009, 08:45:07 PM
Ogs an harps final.
Sun 18th october. 
Ref p.hughes, he is kaaaaat
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on September 27, 2009, 08:48:06 PM
Have to agree with you ITS KAAT............P. Hughes is kat!!  If every a ref could destroy a game of football this one can, expect no free flowing play...........must count the number of frees awarded, may be record breaking!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 27, 2009, 08:50:03 PM
P Hughes, a disaster, he will spoil a potentially brilliant match,

I thought Gary Smith had a good game last night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 27, 2009, 09:23:04 PM
congratulations pearse ogs , hope they can go on and win it now  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on September 27, 2009, 09:58:19 PM
On a positive note, the final will be in the Athletic Grounds, which is thankfully ready for this final and the two teams dont have to troop off to Crossmaglen.

On a negative note, the final will be in the Athletic Grounds, which has no covered seating for the oul folk.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 27, 2009, 09:58:40 PM
Quote from: torres on September 27, 2009, 09:23:04 PM
congratulations pearse ogs , hope they can go on and win it now  :)
Some sickener for the ogs if, after getting past cross, they get beat in the final by their neighbours and rivals!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on September 27, 2009, 10:13:25 PM
well done ogs.  hope victory heads your way on sunday 18th. good luck
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on September 27, 2009, 10:32:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 27, 2009, 10:26:51 PM
I'll be supporting the Harps. Not that that matters to anyone but myself.

So what do you have against the Ogs? Or do you just like Rufus, Bennydorano, etc etc. Where's Randal Patrick McMurphy?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 27, 2009, 10:34:05 PM
Should be a cracking final, really looking forward to it. On my birthday too (take note Ziggy)  :P

Wonder would TG4 send the cameras up to it, can't imagine there will be many other county finals that day that'll attract the same size crowd or atmosphere.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on September 27, 2009, 10:59:18 PM
Harpo his wistle will be well used. Its a joke cross refs always refin harps games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 27, 2009, 11:18:50 PM
Congratulations to the Harps on last nights  4point victory ( as i predicted ;))

Wouldnt say it was a classic , but if you were connected to the Harps, it was a fantastic victory. Veron was outstanding along with Swift. Also thought simon Lennon & Harpo battled well.

An all city final. just what the CB would have wondered. I wonder if by moving most SFC games to the Athletic grounds has seen an increase in gate receipts.

Took in the game tonight. Clann Eireann were terrible. TBH, i dont know how they beat whitecross.  Pearse Ogs were stronger in every position apart from full back were McCann was Clann Eireanns one man show. The Ogs look strong & they move the play quickly and its very effective. The half back line along with the midfield continously drive through at every opportunity. I was very impressed with them, but to be honest they werent up againt much.

It will be a very interesting final to say the least.

Tickets go on sale for the Armagh SFC on ticketmaster  €12 or £11 - Monday 12 Oct.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on September 28, 2009, 12:16:47 AM
Got to the match tonight, couldn't last night  :-\ so no pics of it

but here's link for pearse og v clan eireann pics

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157622343757309/detail/

Typical I'll be in Donegal and miss the final, such is life  :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Any craic on September 28, 2009, 02:26:05 AM
http://www.vimeo.com/6786261 (http://www.vimeo.com/6786261) - the Ogs look mighty impressive. 10 points in-a-row in the first-half, and that after going behind. 4 Clarkes on the pitch too and doing most of the damage. Worthy successors to Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on September 28, 2009, 07:50:30 AM
The dream final for all of those City folk

Ogs will be warm favourites for the game and are undoubtedly the better team, but a final can do strange things to teams.

Granemore will be sick after missing so many scoring chances. Harps were very economical in front of goal, especially in the second half.
Swift & Vernon dominated the middle with Swift making a superb catch in the second half.
I though the referee was leaning towards the county players in any 50/50 decisions. On one particular case in the last few minutes Vernon went down with what looked like a knock to the face/eye. The referee played on and the ball spilled lose. Granemore got posession about 20 yrds from goal & the ref then blew it up. He then gave the free to Vernon ???

Dont know what anyone has against Paidi doing the final. He is well overdue one & is without doubt one of the best referee's in the county
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 28, 2009, 08:13:00 AM
Quote from: full back on September 28, 2009, 07:50:30 AM
The dream final for all of those City folk

Ogs will be warm favourites for the game and are undoubtedly the better team, but a final can do strange things to teams.

Granemore will be sick after missing so many scoring chances. Harps were very economical in front of goal, especially in the second half.
Swift & Vernon dominated the middle with Swift making a superb catch in the second half.
I though the referee was leaning towards the county players in any 50/50 decisions. On one particular case in the last few minutes Vernon went down with what looked like a knock to the face/eye. The referee played on and the ball spilled lose. Granemore got posession about 20 yrds from goal & the ref then blew it up. He then gave the free to Vernon ???

Dont know what anyone has against Paidi doing the final. He is well overdue one & is without doubt one of the best referee's in the county

Thought that was very strange too, there was only three in it at that stage and Harps then went straight up the field from that free to make it four. Don't think Granemore were going to get back into it, but that passage well and truly buried them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 28, 2009, 09:13:18 AM
tones beat newtown by 9 points think them and the bridge relegated now.  how they beat us in championship ill nerver know >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 28, 2009, 09:50:52 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on September 28, 2009, 09:13:18 AM
tones beat newtown by 9 points think them and the bridge relegated now.  how they beat us in championship ill nerver know >:(

You sure? Think they can both catch Ballyhegan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 28, 2009, 09:57:56 AM
Quote from: AFS on September 28, 2009, 09:50:52 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on September 28, 2009, 09:13:18 AM
tones beat newtown by 9 points think them and the bridge relegated now.  how they beat us in championship ill nerver know >:(

You sure? Think they can both catch Ballyhegan.

You could well be right AFS jusy know that we are safe.was talking to kevin o rourke after game and he thought that was them down and whitecross beat the bridge so i thoiught they where down.we definately safe though which a relief
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 28, 2009, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on September 28, 2009, 09:13:18 AM
tones beat newtown by 9 points think them and the bridge relegated now.  how they beat us in championship ill nerver know >:(

I hope you are correct, but i'm not sure! I know Ballyhegan have both the Bridge & Newtown to play. I haven't seen a table with us having the points from the Tir Na Og game yet either!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 28, 2009, 11:17:37 AM
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ARMAGH ACL TABLES AS AT SUNDAY 27 SEPTEMBER 2009

Div. I
          P   W   D    L   Pts
Crossmaglen      17   17   0     0   34 (Winners)
Pearse Og      18     9   2     7   20 (Runners-Up)
Clan na Gael      18     8   2     8   18
Carrickcruppen   18     7   3     8   17
Dromintee      17     8   0     9   16
St Patrick's      18     7   1   10   15
Sarsfields      18     7   1   10   15
Culloville      18     7   1   10   15
Killeavy      18     6   2   10   14 (Relegated)
Mullaghbawn      18     6   2   10   14 (Relegated)

Div. II
          P   W   D    L   Pts
Whitecross      20   18   0     2   36
Maghery      18   14   2     2   30
Granemore      17   14   0     3   28
Ballymacnab      20   12   3     5   27
Madden      22     9   3   10   21
Harps         19     8   4     7   20
Clann Eireann      20     8   2   10   18
Tir na nÓg      18     7   1   10   15
Wolfe Tone      20     4   5   12   13
Ballyhegan      19     4   1   14     9
St Michael's      20     3   2   15     8
Silverbridge      19     2   3   14     7

Div. III
          P   W   D    L   Pts
Keady         17   14   1     2   29 (Promoted)
St Peter's      20   14   2     4   30 (Promoted)
Middletown      18   10   0     8   20
Collegeland      20     9   1   10   19
Tullysaran      18     8   2     8   18
Belleek         20     9   2     9   20
An Port Mor      21     9   2   10   20
Clonmore      18     8   2     8   18
St Paul's      21     9   0   12   18
Shane O'Neill's   18     8   1     9   17
Annaghmore      20     7   1   12   15
Lissummon      21     3   2   16     8 (Relegated)

Div. IV
          P   W   D    L   Pts
Forkhill      21   19   0     2   38 (Promoted)
Crossmaglen II      21   17   0     4   34
Eire Og         17   14   1     2   29
Dorsey Emmett's   19   13   0     6   26
Grange         20   11   3     6   25
Corrinshego      20   11   0     9   22
Derrynoose      20     7   4     9   18
Clady         21     7   4   10   18
O'Hanlon's      18     4   3   11   11
Mullaghbrack      20     5   0   15   10
Phelim Brady's   18     1   1   16     3
Killean         21     1   0   20     2



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 28, 2009, 05:21:05 PM
when is senior county final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on September 28, 2009, 07:22:18 PM
Full Back. keep takin ur pink tablets,p.hughes is kaaaat,cross dort.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 28, 2009, 07:23:58 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on September 28, 2009, 10:05:16 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on September 28, 2009, 09:13:18 AM
tones beat newtown by 9 points think them and the bridge relegated now.  how they beat us in championship ill nerver know >:(

I hope you are correct, but i'm not sure! I know Ballyhegan have both the Bridge & Newtown to play. I haven't seen a table with us having the points from the Tir Na Og game yet either!
I think we've Harps and Maghery too :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on September 28, 2009, 07:52:53 PM
Harps final sunday 18th october . 3 r 30 trow in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 28, 2009, 07:59:16 PM
Garth Rooney was sent off yesterday playing for cross 2Nd's he should get 6 months for standing on the mans face he was at all that stuff during the game on till the lines man caught him.Theses sort of players should be taking out off the game there a danger to other players.Well done to forkhill
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 28, 2009, 08:56:08 PM
Quote from: ITS KAAAT on September 28, 2009, 07:52:53 PM
Harps final sunday 18th october . 3 r 30 trow in.
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i thought it was an all city final , did the ogs pull out or what , strange just harps final  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 28, 2009, 09:13:45 PM
going to get the papers get the papers, jimmy two times ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on September 28, 2009, 09:24:15 PM
Quote from: ITS KAAAT on September 28, 2009, 09:16:40 PM
im a tWat
sorted that for you :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on September 28, 2009, 09:29:03 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 28, 2009, 09:13:45 PM
going to get the papers get the papers, jimmy two times ;) ;) ;)

lol. Me funny? Funny how?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 28, 2009, 10:32:15 PM
Lads i know there is another thread for this but the county manager is being appointed tonight...just thought i'd let yous know ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 29, 2009, 10:30:57 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 28, 2009, 10:32:15 PM
Lads i know there is another thread for this but the county manager is being appointed tonight...just thought I'd let yous know ;)

Please forgive me lads i got my wires crossed, the new committee was formed last night and went over the possible candidates to which they will make an appointment in the very near future.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 29, 2009, 10:55:15 AM
kaaat this a gaa discussion board not a learning medium or friend finding site. wise upppppppppppppp
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on September 29, 2009, 10:01:49 PM
Anybody here who new armagh manager is it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Dannymcfella on September 29, 2009, 11:15:14 PM
Quote from: ITS KAAAT on September 29, 2009, 10:01:49 PM
Anybody here who new armagh manager is it.

You really don't help the reputation you have as being (how can I say it without being offensive? I can't) stupid
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on September 29, 2009, 11:16:46 PM
Be nice.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lecale2 on September 30, 2009, 08:03:19 AM
Lads where is this new club Killean based? How long are they on the go?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 30, 2009, 08:18:20 AM
Quote from: Lecale2 on September 30, 2009, 08:03:19 AM
Lads where is this new club Killean based? How long are they on the go?

In Killean funnily enough  :P Kinda between Cloughue and the Carrickdale, out the Flagstaff side of the motorway.

On the go since the start of this year.

You can see where they are on the map here:

http://www.orchardcounty.com/index.php?page=2;tpreview
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on September 30, 2009, 11:34:36 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 29, 2009, 10:30:57 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 28, 2009, 10:32:15 PM
Lads i know there is another thread for this but the county manager is being appointed tonight...just thought I'd let yous know ;)

Please forgive me lads i got my wires crossed, the new committee was formed last night and went over the possible candidates to which they will make an appointment in the very near future.

I forgive you  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on September 30, 2009, 11:41:32 AM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on September 30, 2009, 11:34:36 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 29, 2009, 10:30:57 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 28, 2009, 10:32:15 PM
Lads i know there is another thread for this but the county manager is being appointed tonight...just thought I'd let yous know ;)

Please forgive me lads i got my wires crossed, the new committee was formed last night and went over the possible candidates to which they will make an appointment in the very near future.

I forgive you  ;D

the same fella wouldnt forgive you berf
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 30, 2009, 12:03:22 PM
Quote from: ITS KAAAT on September 29, 2009, 10:01:49 PM
Anybody here who new armagh manager is it.

I told u to get on with your school studies, English for starters ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Lecale2 on September 30, 2009, 01:09:10 PM
Quote from: AFS on September 30, 2009, 08:18:20 AM
Quote from: Lecale2 on September 30, 2009, 08:03:19 AM
Lads where is this new club Killean based? How long are they on the go?

In Killean funnily enough  :P Kinda between Cloughue and the Carrickdale, out the Flagstaff side of the motorway.

On the go since the start of this year.

You can see where they are on the map here:

http://www.orchardcounty.com/index.php?page=2;tpreview

Was there a split in a local club or something? There would be other clubs close bye wouldn't there?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 30, 2009, 01:17:59 PM
its near killeavy, they weren't impressed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on September 30, 2009, 10:52:18 PM
harps supporters out early in irish street new poles coated in blue ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 30, 2009, 11:02:40 PM
Quote from: rootthemout on September 30, 2009, 10:52:18 PM
harps supporters out early in irish street new poles coated in blue ;)

Noticed that there earlier, hopefully that wil be rectified soon  ;D noticed that the blue and white bunting is out though outside Mc Kenna's!!! The 'oul nerves are killing me though, seriously, wish the match was this weekend!!! On the match on Sunday night, thought the Ogs played well in first half and although Clann Eireann came back into it, I feel it was more a case of the Ogs taking their foot off the gas and they were always able to raise their game. Never seen the Harps game on Sat night so can't comment on it. Roll on the 18th!!!! 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on September 30, 2009, 11:18:16 PM
Quote from: ogshead on September 30, 2009, 11:02:40 PM
Quote from: rootthemout on September 30, 2009, 10:52:18 PM
harps supporters out early in irish street new poles coated in blue ;)

Noticed that there earlier, hopefully that wil be rectified soon  ;D noticed that the blue and white bunting is out though outside Mc Kenna's!!! The 'oul nerves are killing me though, seriously, wish the match was this weekend!!! On the match on Sunday night, thought the Ogs played well in first half and although Clann Eireann came back into it, I feel it was more a case of the Ogs taking their foot off the gas and they were always able to raise their game. Never seen the Harps game on Sat night so can't comment on it. Roll on the 18th!!!! 8)

Shoud be a huge crowd and a great atmosphere, I hope the teams are less nervous than you are Ogshead otherwise we are in for another nighmare final.

The club will be the place to be should the Harps prevail. C'mon the Harps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 30, 2009, 11:41:53 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 30, 2009, 11:25:17 PM
Are you coming home?

hopefully he's not   ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 01, 2009, 09:55:33 AM
Michael Tighe Memorial 7 a side Tournament

Wolfe Tones Derrymacash will be hosting a seven a side tournament for minors on Saturday 10th October 2009.   

The throw in time for the first games will be 10:00 am.   

Further details will follow regarding teams competing after this weekends minor championship.

Everyone is welcome to come along and support the event which should be a very entertaining day. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: who-r-ya on October 01, 2009, 10:15:40 AM
ne odds 4 this final??  :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Abble on October 01, 2009, 12:14:40 PM
ogs 4/11 raging hot favourites
harps 11/5
thats outright on boylesports i think
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on October 01, 2009, 04:27:40 PM
harps 11/5 were stealing money ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 01, 2009, 09:17:18 PM
Quote from: ogshead on September 30, 2009, 11:02:40 PM
Quote from: rootthemout on September 30, 2009, 10:52:18 PM
harps supporters out early in irish street new poles coated in blue ;)

Noticed that there earlier, hopefully that wil be rectified soon  ;D noticed that the blue and white bunting is out though outside Mc Kenna's!!! The 'oul nerves are killing me though, seriously, wish the match was this weekend!!! On the match on Sunday night, thought the Ogs played well in first half and although Clann Eireann came back into it, I feel it was more a case of the Ogs taking their foot off the gas and they were always able to raise their game. Never seen the Harps game on Sat night so can't comment on it. Roll on the 18th!!!! 8)
well done to the ogs , i hope [ and pray ] thats you,s go on and win it  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 01, 2009, 09:38:29 PM
Quote from: stew on September 30, 2009, 11:18:16 PM
Quote from: ogshead on September 30, 2009, 11:02:40 PM
Quote from: rootthemout on September 30, 2009, 10:52:18 PM
harps supporters out early in irish street new poles coated in blue ;)

Noticed that there earlier, hopefully that wil be rectified soon  ;D noticed that the blue and white bunting is out though outside Mc Kenna's!!! The 'oul nerves are killing me though, seriously, wish the match was this weekend!!! On the match on Sunday night, thought the Ogs played well in first half and although Clann Eireann came back into it, I feel it was more a case of the Ogs taking their foot off the gas and they were always able to raise their game. Never seen the Harps game on Sat night so can't comment on it. Roll on the 18th!!!! 8)

Shoud be a huge crowd and a great atmosphere, I hope the teams are less nervous than you are Ogshead otherwise we are in for another nighmare final.

The club will be the place to be should the Harps prevail. C'mon the Harps.

That's why I don't play, the nerves would kill me (plus the fact I'm no good  ;D). C'mon the Ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on October 01, 2009, 10:57:13 PM
I just got a text to say Ogs colours all over the shambles..Dont know if its true though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on October 01, 2009, 11:02:20 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on October 01, 2009, 10:57:13 PM
I just got a text to say Ogs colours all over the shambles..Dont know if its true though.
came through earlier,seen top end of town boys out of their area :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on October 01, 2009, 11:07:44 PM
Sniper Required.  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 01, 2009, 11:28:48 PM
f**k sake give over can put colours anywhere.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on October 02, 2009, 12:11:15 AM
Quote from: ITS KAAAT on October 01, 2009, 11:28:48 PM
f**k sake give over can put colours anywhere.

you should be in bed, you have school in the morning.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on October 02, 2009, 09:06:48 AM
its good to see a buzz back in the county final.  its been quite a while since i can remember so many neutrals looking forward to the final. just hope the two teams dont freeze like the minor final recently...

i take it the minor championship matches are going to be rattled off right and quick so their final can be before the senior game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on October 02, 2009, 11:40:07 AM
Anyone know the betting locally for the final ? Would guess Ogs strong favourites.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 02, 2009, 02:16:17 PM
Ogs 4/11

Harps 11/5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 02, 2009, 05:52:19 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on October 02, 2009, 09:06:48 AM
its good to see a buzz back in the county final.  its been quite a while since i can remember so many neutrals looking forward to the final. just hope the two teams dont freeze like the minor final recently...

i take it the minor championship matches are going to be rattled off right and quick so their final can be before the senior game?
Yeah, minor final to be played before senior. 

Harps v Clans tomorrow at 4pm in Abbey has the makings of a clinker game, there's been plenty of talk of our Seniors and minors lining out on County Final day, I hope we dont take our eye of the ball as I know the Clans fancy themselves them for this one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cúig huaire on October 02, 2009, 09:03:03 PM
(http://www.downgaa.net/downgaa/football/county/senior/2002/paddyorourke.jpg)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 02, 2009, 11:00:12 PM
cant believe the new armagh manager is paddy o, rourke  ???.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 02, 2009, 11:05:02 PM
see paddy has being given the armagh managers job cant see how this man got it he was a failure with down and he just walks into the armagh job.I think its  PR stunt for his bussiness at such a hard time.our county board should step down from tonight a dark cloud hangs over armagh tonight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 02, 2009, 11:12:35 PM
Root them out!!!
Say nothin
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: who-r-ya on October 02, 2009, 11:34:37 PM
the man hasn even started his new job........... an look wat hes up against
Title: Armagh football
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 03, 2009, 12:09:56 AM
P.orouke new manager
Title: Re: Armagh football
Post by: torres on October 03, 2009, 12:36:12 PM
Quote from: ITS KAAAT on October 03, 2009, 12:09:56 AM
P.orouke new manager
quick of the mark there kaaat  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on October 03, 2009, 05:28:32 PM
Fair play to the harps minors today. Cleaned the clans out round the middle and well deserved their win. Wasn't many plus points for the clans at all.

Good luck to the harps in the the rest of the competition.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 03, 2009, 05:28:54 PM
Harps beat Clans 1-15 to 0-8 in the minor q/f.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 03, 2009, 06:04:11 PM
Cross and Killeavy minors both won
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DCR on October 03, 2009, 06:21:11 PM
Quote from: Cúig huaire on October 02, 2009, 09:03:03 PM
(http://www.downgaa.net/downgaa/football/county/senior/2002/paddyorourke.jpg)
Always remember his sideline impression of "Jumpin - Jack - Flash* against Tyrone in 03.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 03, 2009, 06:56:13 PM
Cross minors won 2-8 to 0-5, Robbie Tasker was not playing for cullyhanna but i dont think it would have made any difference as Cross completely dominated the game and registered 19 wides.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 03, 2009, 07:06:40 PM
What time is the Intermediate final at tomorrow?

I assume it is in the Athletic Grounds?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 03, 2009, 07:20:38 PM
Think it's at 5pm.  Minor Draw to be done at half time of this game apparently.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2009, 08:23:56 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 03, 2009, 06:56:13 PM
Cross minors won 2-8 to 0-5, Robbie Tasker was not playing for cullyhanna but i dont think it would have made any difference as Cross completely dominated the game and registered 19 wides.

I don't think you can argue that not having one of the top minors in the country didn't make a difference. The game was dominated by the wind. Cross led 1-3 to 0-2 at half time having played with the wind and at least 1-1 was directly attributable to individual errors by Cullyhanna men. Felt the game was in the balance at that stage but Cross played superbly into the wind in the second half. Carried the ball well and took some fine scores.

Game was over 10 minutes into the second half once they scored their second goal from a penalty though Cullyhanna had 3 good goal chances later on and should have had a penalty themselves. That said, Cross thoroughly deserved their victory and looked a very good side. If they meet Harps int he semi final I'd say they'll make a better show of themselves than last year, they looked a class outfit at times today. Morgan at midfield for Cross was excellent, really dominated the match.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on October 03, 2009, 09:06:57 PM
thats cross harps,killeavy into semis any word on st johns and sarsfields ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 03, 2009, 10:12:43 PM
Sarsfields beat St Johns
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 04, 2009, 01:49:47 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 03, 2009, 07:20:38 PM
Think it's at 5pm.  Minor Draw to be done at half time of this game apparently.

Centrehalf on Orchard County has the Intermediate final down for 5.30 today.  Anyone know for definite what time it's on at?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on October 04, 2009, 02:14:41 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on October 04, 2009, 01:49:47 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 03, 2009, 07:20:38 PM
Think it's at 5pm.  Minor Draw to be done at half time of this game apparently.

Centrehalf on Orchard County has the Intermediate final down for 5.30 today.  Anyone know for definite what time it's on at?

5.30pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 04, 2009, 04:31:25 PM
granemore bt maghery 0 -16 - 2-9 , paudie hughes gave maghery a lot of soft frees from which the bulk of there scores came from , 1 of there goals was a penalty , deserved win though  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on October 04, 2009, 06:10:19 PM
Newtown beating Keady 0-8 to 1-0 ht. Keady scored their goal with the last kick of the half. Shite game, Keady especially bad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 04, 2009, 06:52:59 PM
What way did keady an newtown go.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on October 04, 2009, 06:56:51 PM
Quote from: ITS KAAAT on October 04, 2009, 06:52:59 PM
What way did keady an newtown go.
the keady road  out of armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 04, 2009, 06:58:44 PM
Keady an newtown final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on October 04, 2009, 07:10:34 PM
Newtown won 1-10 to 1-4, very poor quality game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on October 04, 2009, 08:25:38 PM
Minor Semi Finals

Saturday 10th October
Athletic Grounds

3.00pm
Killeavy v Sarsfields

5.00pm
Crossmaglen v Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on October 05, 2009, 11:44:40 AM
tough draw for the harps, should be a good game, but i expect them to progress, they were very impressive against clans
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 05, 2009, 10:24:45 PM
Was wondering why the board was so quiet tonight and then I remembered, all the Harps ones are out putting flags and signs up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 05, 2009, 10:30:49 PM
It has to be done!
Up the harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 05, 2009, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on August 15, 2009, 03:12:06 PM
intermediate championship.
Cullaville are clear favourites but im putting money on keady.

Keady have too many good players. Conor nugent in midfield will dominant any aerial battle and also has two good feet and a terrific fotballing brain could be moved to centre half forward to dictate the game.

Barry hughes and mark hughes although old they have still got bags of pace and are deadily accurate.

Ronan toal and geard toal can make an impact from the bench in any game,Ronan in particular coming  back from injury it's as if he is now "transformed"

Paul McCormak the former county player has had his ups and downs but is still the most talented two footed player in this championship and like conor nugent also has the brain to influence games. without doubt could be playing county football.

Keady are the on the up and will be challenging the likes of Pearse O'gs and the Dromintee's of this world next year.

:o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on October 06, 2009, 12:11:12 AM
War of the colours is on, drove through the town this evening and the low end of the town was covered in blue and white.

I think the two clubs will run out of poles shortly. Who will be first to hit Barrack St.  :D

Good work tonight lads.....

Na Clairsigh Abu.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 06, 2009, 08:36:50 AM
Very gud wrk last nite, gud to see a very gud turn out. Gives you pride.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on October 06, 2009, 10:09:22 AM
Someone was busy last night, noticed all the Harps colours higher up the lamp posts than the Ogs colours. Friary Road looks well, well done to all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 06, 2009, 10:13:52 AM
hope you went home at 8 for bed, school today. ps flags and bunting doesnt win a match. bit of a rip off £50 per sign. Spoke to ogs people and they only had to pay £30.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on October 06, 2009, 10:17:41 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 06, 2009, 10:13:52 AM
hope you went home at 8 for bed, school today. ps flags and bunting doesnt win a match. bit of a rip off £50 per sign. Spoke to ogs people and they only had to pay £30.
our supporters more than happy to donate,nobody pressurised them,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: haveaharp on October 06, 2009, 10:35:09 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 06, 2009, 10:13:52 AM
hope you went home at 8 for bed, school today. ps flags and bunting doesnt win a match. bit of a rip off £50 per sign. Spoke to ogs people and they only had to pay £30.

£30 v £50

I guess they wanted to charge according to the relative wealth / class distribution in the town.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 06, 2009, 11:05:31 AM
Quote from: haveaharp on October 06, 2009, 10:35:09 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 06, 2009, 10:13:52 AM
hope you went home at 8 for bed, school today. ps flags and bunting doesnt win a match. bit of a rip off £50 per sign. Spoke to ogs people and they only had to pay £30.

£30 v £50

I guess they wanted to charge according to the relative wealth / class distribution in the town.

I'm proud to be working class. Also, the Ogs supporters didn't have to pay at all this year as they paid for them in 2007. That works out at £10/year, now that's value for money!! ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: haveaharp on October 06, 2009, 11:15:40 AM
Quote from: ogshead on October 06, 2009, 11:05:31 AM
Quote from: haveaharp on October 06, 2009, 10:35:09 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 06, 2009, 10:13:52 AM
hope you went home at 8 for bed, school today. ps flags and bunting doesnt win a match. bit of a rip off £50 per sign. Spoke to ogs people and they only had to pay £30.

£30 v £50

I guess they wanted to charge according to the relative wealth / class distribution in the town.

I'm proud to be working class. Also, the Ogs supporters didn't have to pay at all this year as they paid for them in 2007. That works out at £10/year, now that's value for money!! ::)


Well if you are part of the working classes that is commendable for that side of town.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 06, 2009, 03:06:29 PM
haveaharp do you have a job or are you another teachers son. spoilt brat.  plenty of real harps people are working class or on the js. dont forget it was because of prats like you that ogs started up. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 06, 2009, 03:43:59 PM
sorry rufus not all teachers sons just the spoilt ones. but didn't like the class distinction comments
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: haveaharp on October 06, 2009, 04:07:41 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 06, 2009, 03:43:59 PM
sorry rufus not all teachers sons just the spoilt ones. but didn't like the class distinction comments

dry them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Passing_Interest on October 06, 2009, 08:04:36 PM
Wanderer, fair comments on the silly posts about class and money.
You raise an interesting point in your last post - a point I first heard just recently from a proud Ogs man.
But is it really true that the Ogs started as a result of some perceived class distinction on the part if the Harps at the time ?
Or was it not simply the case that the town was big enough for 2 teams given the amount of boys not getting football with the only club in the town ?
Can't remember if Phil's history deals with this issue.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 06, 2009, 10:39:15 PM
Quote from: Passing_Interest on October 06, 2009, 08:04:36 PM
Wanderer, fair comments on the silly posts about class and money.
You raise an interesting point in your last post - a point I first heard just recently from a proud Ogs man.
But is it really true that the Ogs started as a result of some perceived class distinction on the part if the Harps at the time ?
Or was it not simply the case that the town was big enough for 2 teams given the amount of boys not getting football with the only club in the town ?
Can't remember if Phil's history deals with this issue.

Rufus Senior called round and we were taping a copy of Joe McManus's video of the life of Jim McCullough. The Ogs definitely started because there was not enough football for all those that wanted it.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on October 07, 2009, 11:18:19 AM
My understanding of the formation of the ogs was because the Harps could have fielded enough teams to have their own league. Dont think it had anything to do with percieved class etc, just that guys werent getting enough football. I suppose with all the street leagues going on at the time (Navan street for example) it was only natural that a team would form up the other side of the town. Its a pity that the street leagues died off - id say they would have been some craic.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 11:48:25 AM
You are lucky there are only 2 teams in Armagh...

Lurgan = Clan na Gael, Clann Eireann, St Pauls & St Peters. With Eire Og 1 mile from the Clans and Wolf Tones 2 miles from Clans

I know Armagh have clubs on the outskirts too but i wouldn't imagine they'd be as close as the Lurgan ones, maybe somone from Armagh could educate me on the other clubs on the outskirts of Armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on October 07, 2009, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 11:48:25 AM
You are lucky there are only 2 teams in Armagh...

Lurgan = Clan na Gael, Clann Eireann, St Pauls & St Peters. With Eire Og 1 mile from the Clans and Wolf Tones 2 miles from Clans

I know Armagh have clubs on the outskirts too but i wouldn't imagine they'd be as close as the Lurgan ones, maybe somone from Armagh could educate me on the other clubs on the outskirts of Armagh

Why so many clubs - is there a history to that ?
nearest would be the grange i suppose - 2 miles out the Moy road.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on October 07, 2009, 01:09:23 PM
Quote from: maddog on October 07, 2009, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 11:48:25 AM
You are lucky there are only 2 teams in Armagh...

Lurgan = Clan na Gael, Clann Eireann, St Pauls & St Peters. With Eire Og 1 mile from the Clans and Wolf Tones 2 miles from Clans

I know Armagh have clubs on the outskirts too but i wouldn't imagine they'd be as close as the Lurgan ones, maybe somone from Armagh could educate me on the other clubs on the outskirts of Armagh

Why so many clubs - is there a history to that ?
nearest would be the grange i suppose - 2 miles out the Moy road.

yes. we do f**k all but argue and fight in lurgan... hence so many teams. couldnt agree on the colour of shite  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on October 07, 2009, 01:42:14 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 11:48:25 AM
You are lucky there are only 2 teams in Armagh...

Lurgan = Clan na Gael, Clann Eireann, St Pauls & St Peters. With Eire Og 1 mile from the Clans and Wolf Tones 2 miles from Clans

I know Armagh have clubs on the outskirts too but i wouldn't imagine they'd be as close as the Lurgan ones, maybe somone from Armagh could educate me on the other clubs on the outskirts of Armagh

madden about two mile out the road. nab would be close enough as well!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 07, 2009, 02:01:08 PM
They are only in the vacinity its not as though the Harps and Ogs are competing with them for young players. Lurgan also has St. Marys on its doorstep, although they play in the Antrim league they compete in the North Armagh championship. (Pat McMahon cup) Clans, Clann Eireann, St. Peters, St.Pauls, Eire Og, Wolf Tonnes and Sarsfileds all have their own catchment are of sorts however they all compete frantically for players, facilities and fundraising opportunities! When one club comes up with a good fundraising plan all clubs support it however it usually means that they have to wait to do one themselves as the people of the town be sick of handing out to the Gaelic clubs!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 07, 2009, 02:46:14 PM
14,590 population of Armagh city (wikipedia) (Not sure how what percentage kick with the other foot) estimate half???


25,000 (wiki) Population of Lurgan and i would estimate about 13,000 would kick with the other wan) so it is a lot of teams for such a small population.

People make the mistake of thinking that Lurgan is a massive area but when the population is broken down it becomes relatively small in comparison with a lot of places. You can see how 6 or 7 teams in a small area could cause potential problems. All i have done is mentioned religious divisions but this isn't even taking into account the amount of people that are not involved in Gaelic plus the amount of soccer heads that are increasingly prevalent in Lurgan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 03:14:36 PM
Yeah man...but i'd imagine Armagh would be every bit as bad as Lurgan with regarding drinking and anti social behaviour
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 07, 2009, 04:30:58 PM
plenty of left footers in armagh too plus soccer, rugby ones etc. so the amount of Gaelic families get narrowed down. also the teams on the edge of the city tend to get players from both clubs ie madden, grange, tullysarron, ballymacnab and mullabrack. It therefor is not possible to facilitate a 3rd club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on October 07, 2009, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 11:48:25 AM
You are lucky there are only 2 teams in Armagh...

Lurgan = Clan na Gael, Clann Eireann, St Pauls & St Peters. With Eire Og 1 mile from the Clans and Wolf Tones 2 miles from Clans

I know Armagh have clubs on the outskirts too but i wouldn't imagine they'd be as close as the Lurgan ones, maybe somone from Armagh could educate me on the other clubs on the outskirts of Armagh
guys what about the camlough area--cruppen, shanes, belleeks and corrinshego all within a very small radius
when i was growing up there was only cruppen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 05:00:44 PM
Quote from: naka on October 07, 2009, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 11:48:25 AM
You are lucky there are only 2 teams in Armagh...

Lurgan = Clan na Gael, Clann Eireann, St Pauls & St Peters. With Eire Og 1 mile from the Clans and Wolf Tones 2 miles from Clans

I know Armagh have clubs on the outskirts too but i wouldn't imagine they'd be as close as the Lurgan ones, maybe somone from Armagh could educate me on the other clubs on the outskirts of Armagh
guys what about the camlough area--cruppen, shanes, belleeks and corrinshego all within a very small radius
when i was growing up there was only cruppen

aye Naka but that was a long time ago...the population has trebled since then
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 07, 2009, 05:27:30 PM
did shane o'neills form as a result of fallout in cruppen? i'd say all the lurgan clubs can trace their formation to a fall out of some sort  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 07, 2009, 08:13:12 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 05:00:44 PM
Quote from: naka on October 07, 2009, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 11:48:25 AM
You are lucky there are only 2 teams in Armagh...

Lurgan = Clan na Gael, Clann Eireann, St Pauls & St Peters. With Eire Og 1 mile from the Clans and Wolf Tones 2 miles from Clans

I know Armagh have clubs on the outskirts too but i wouldn't imagine they'd be as close as the Lurgan ones, maybe somone from Armagh could educate me on the other clubs on the outskirts of Armagh
guys what about the camlough area--cruppen, shanes, belleeks and corrinshego all within a very small radius
when i was growing up there was only cruppen

aye Naka but that was a long time ago...the population has trebled since then
How did yous end up with so many teams in an around Lurgan, no 'parish' rule??  Clans, Clann Eireann and St Peter's seem very close together for all 3 to thrive. 

Armagh had 3 teams about 20 odd years ago, Naomh Brid were a junior team, nominally from the windmill area.  Suppose there's also the hurlers at Cuchulianns.  Theres plenty of ex-Harps and Ogs lads playing for 'country' teams near Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: who-r-ya on October 07, 2009, 09:54:20 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 07, 2009, 08:13:12 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 05:00:44 PM
Quote from: naka on October 07, 2009, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 11:48:25 AM
You are lucky there are only 2 teams in Armagh...

Lurgan = Clan na Gael, Clann Eireann, St Pauls & St Peters. With Eire Og 1 mile from the Clans and Wolf Tones 2 miles from Clans

I know Armagh have clubs on the outskirts too but i wouldn't imagine they'd be as close as the Lurgan ones, maybe somone from Armagh could educate me on the other clubs on the outskirts of Armagh
guys what about the camlough area--cruppen, shanes, belleeks and corrinshego all within a very small radius
when i was growing up there was only cruppen

aye Naka but that was a long time ago...the population has trebled since then
How did yous end up with so many teams in an around Lurgan, no 'parish' rule??  Clans, Clann Eireann and St Peter's seem very close together for all 3 to thrive. 

Armagh had 3 teams about 20 odd years ago, Naomh Brid were a junior team, nominally from the windmill area.  Suppose there's also the hurlers at Cuchulianns.  Theres plenty of ex-Harps and Ogs lads playing for 'country' teams near Armagh.

lik who benny
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 11:22:27 PM
Lurgan has two parishes...St Peters & St Pauls, Clann Eireann and St Peters are from St Peters parish with Clan na Gael & St Pauls from St Pauls parish...TBH i don't know what the parishes are for Eire Og, Wolfe Tones & Sarsfields :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 08, 2009, 04:43:02 PM
Quote from: who-r-ya on October 07, 2009, 09:54:20 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 07, 2009, 08:13:12 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 05:00:44 PM
Quote from: naka on October 07, 2009, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 11:48:25 AM
You are lucky there are only 2 teams in Armagh...

Lurgan = Clan na Gael, Clann Eireann, St Pauls & St Peters. With Eire Og 1 mile from the Clans and Wolf Tones 2 miles from Clans

I know Armagh have clubs on the outskirts too but i wouldn't imagine they'd be as close as the Lurgan ones, maybe somone from Armagh could educate me on the other clubs on the outskirts of Armagh
guys what about the camlough area--cruppen, shanes, belleeks and corrinshego all within a very small radius
when i was growing up there was only cruppen

aye Naka but that was a long time ago...the population has trebled since then
How did yous end up with so many teams in an around Lurgan, no 'parish' rule??  Clans, Clann Eireann and St Peter's seem very close together for all 3 to thrive. 

Armagh had 3 teams about 20 odd years ago, Naomh Brid were a junior team, nominally from the windmill area.  Suppose there's also the hurlers at Cuchulianns.  Theres plenty of ex-Harps and Ogs lads playing for 'country' teams near Armagh.

lik who benny
Of the top of my head - Abble, Butler, Sean Paul Henry, Kevin Smyth at Mullaghbrack, goalie Hughes to the Nab, we've recently had a few returnees that had gone to the Grange too. cant think to to many Ogs wans, Cullen? went to Grange, think they have a few at mullaghbrack/tullysaran too?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on October 08, 2009, 08:01:25 PM
in such a small raural are the parish of loughall has collegeland,ballyhegan,annaghmore,clonmore and maghery. ::) :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on October 09, 2009, 12:30:32 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 11:22:27 PM
i don't know what the parishes are for Eire Og, Wolfe Tones & Sarsfields :-[

The Clans and St Peter's were both originally in Shankill parish before it was divided into St Paul's, Shankill and St Peter's, Shankill  in 1992.

Eire Og -- the new parish of Moyraverty which was taken from Seagoe, Shankill & Tullylish 
Wolfe Tones -- Seagoe parish
The High Moss Sarsfields  -- Seagoe parish
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on October 09, 2009, 01:52:19 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 05:00:44 PM
Quote from: naka on October 07, 2009, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 07, 2009, 11:48:25 AM
You are lucky there are only 2 teams in Armagh...

Lurgan = Clan na Gael, Clann Eireann, St Pauls & St Peters. With Eire Og 1 mile from the Clans and Wolf Tones 2 miles from Clans

I know Armagh have clubs on the outskirts too but i wouldn't imagine they'd be as close as the Lurgan ones, maybe somone from Armagh could educate me on the other clubs on the outskirts of Armagh
guys what about the camlough area--cruppen, shanes, belleeks and corrinshego all within a very small radius
when i was growing up there was only cruppen

aye Naka but that was a long time ago...the population has trebled since then
;)i`m still a young fella only in my forties
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: camloughlad on October 09, 2009, 08:46:08 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 07, 2009, 05:27:30 PM
did shane o'neills form as a result of fallout in cruppen? i'd say all the lurgan clubs can trace their formation to a fall out of some sort  :D
there was no shanes or cruppen it was jus was camlough.
The St.Patricks Carrickcruppen Gaelic Football Club was founded in 1944 (the exact date of which has not yet been verified), as a direct result of a dispute in the selection of a 'Camlough' team from the time.

As the story goes, the Camlough team had progressed into the Armagh Junior Championship final and the selection committee, believing it would strengthen the team, decided to sign a few new players from the nearby town of Newry.

At that time, all of the team members resided in the Camlough locality and the selectors decision to import players was not recieved very favourably, especially by the players facing exclusion from the team. One of the key players on this Camlough team, Oliver Loughran, himself a certain starter, was vociferous in his condemnation of the Camlough team selectors. So much so in fact that he opted out of the squad and severed all connections with the club.

In an attempt to keep Gaelic football in the area and to give local talent a chance to play, Oliver arranged a meeting with all interested parties (namely Colen Crilly, Paddy Carlisle, Bobby Browne, and James Galloghly) in the hope of forming another team. This meeting was held at the top of the Quarter road at Magill's corner (where Oliver still lives today in fact). At the meeting a pricely sum of 3/9 (19p in modern currency) was collected for the purchase of a ball and it was agreed that Magill's field would double as the new club's first official pitch. It was on this pitch in fact that the club spent most of it's formative years, before it's eventual relocation to the current grounds on Lowes Lane.

At that time, Carrickcruppen football catered only for males, so the ladies of the district decided to form a camogie team which, in time, devoloped into one of the most respected and revered throughout the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Size.5.Hallion on October 10, 2009, 10:18:41 AM
Lads,sorry to hijack the thread like this, but im spending the weekend in Armagh and had heard the senior chamionship final was on. Could someone give me the details, where is it at,when and who's playing??

Thanks in advance lads
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 10, 2009, 10:36:53 AM
Quote from: Size.5.Hallion on October 10, 2009, 10:18:41 AM
Lads,sorry to hijack the thread like this, but im spending the weekend in Armagh and had heard the senior chamionship final was on. Could someone give me the details, where is it at,when and who's playing??

Thanks in advance lads

You are a week early.

The Junior final is on tommorow.

The minor semi finals are on in The Athletic Grounds today at 3pm and 5pm, with the 5pm game between Harps and Cross expected to be a decent game.  That is of course not to suggest that the first game won't be decent as well  ;).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Size.5.Hallion on October 10, 2009, 10:39:28 AM
Thanks Joe,il maybe make my way across and see some football this weekend. Minor semis look to be a good shout
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 10, 2009, 04:19:07 PM
Hallion you should make your way to the Armagh city hotel tonight lad members of local GAA club teams will be fighting each other and it should be a decent nights craic. Proceeds in aid of Armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on October 10, 2009, 05:38:56 PM
any word on the minor semi finals
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 10, 2009, 05:50:55 PM
Harps 1.9
Cross 0.3 at half time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on October 10, 2009, 05:54:04 PM
who won sarsfields killeavy kaat
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 10, 2009, 06:48:56 PM
Kileavy won by 5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on October 11, 2009, 11:13:32 AM
Who won the fights?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Clansman on October 11, 2009, 11:17:51 AM
Well Done to Brian " Sugar Ray " Lennon and Brendan " Fantom " Campbell on there fine victories . There wasnt much floating like a butterfly but they definately stung like a bee. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 11, 2009, 01:28:59 PM
Quote from: Donagh on October 11, 2009, 11:13:32 AM
Who won the fights?
tyson , mc geown , mc nulty , gribbon ,mc ardle , mone lost .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 11, 2009, 02:49:39 PM
Cross were beaten by a better team, although we had little luck with our goal chances which if converted could have left the game a lot closer.

Congrats and good luck to Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 11, 2009, 03:58:20 PM
Bridge beat by granmore and relegated
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on October 11, 2009, 04:01:08 PM
Any word on what happened after boxing in hotel?

Was told there was a row with bouncers and PSNI arrived and they used CS gas

Its on teletext that police were attacked on Frairy road which would indicate was outside the hotel grounds (unless that was said to protect the hotel from bad publicity)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8301335.stm

Hopefully nothing to do with the event in hotel, that's if anyone in the hotel was even involved in first place
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 11, 2009, 04:07:13 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 11, 2009, 03:58:20 PM
Bridge beat by granmore and relegated
yeah game of 2 halfs , the bridge lead 1-6 - 0-5 at h-t , granemore outscored them 9 to 4 to win by a point , commiserations to silverbridge and good luck for next season .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on October 11, 2009, 06:52:53 PM
I know that Armagh Harps and Pearse Og play in the senior final, but could anyone tell if the Intermediate and Junior finals have taken place.
If so who were the winners?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on October 11, 2009, 07:36:57 PM
st micheals newton won intermediate and the junior finaal was 2day no results in yet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on October 11, 2009, 07:42:25 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on October 11, 2009, 07:36:57 PM
st micheals newton won intermediate and the junior finaal was 2day no results in yet

Thanks Ref.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 11, 2009, 09:14:07 PM
Quote from: Clansman on October 11, 2009, 11:17:51 AM
Well Done to Brian " Sugar Ray " Lennon and Brendan " Fantom " Campbell on there fine victories . There wasnt much floating like a butterfly but they definately stung like a bee.
congrats to both...can anyone talk me through what happened after?? we left late enough but missed the action!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Mack the finger on October 11, 2009, 09:39:59 PM
Quote from: Carbery on October 11, 2009, 06:52:53 PM
I know that Armagh Harps and Pearse Og play in the senior final, but could anyone tell if the Intermediate and Junior finals have taken place.
If so who were the winners?

Junior championship Belleek  2-6 0-12 Shane O Neills   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 12, 2009, 09:28:31 AM
a bundle of thugs who tried to spoil a good fundraising event. it doesn't help the image especially to Nelson BIGOT Mc Causland.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 12, 2009, 10:20:13 AM
lets be honest nothing will help the image to a bigot like that so he isn't even worthy of a mention
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on October 12, 2009, 12:07:19 PM
After taking in 2 days action at Ath. Grounds over the weekend, i have to say the Co. Board need to take a good look at themselves in terms of organising games etc as the 3 games really undermined the clubs taking part and also puts pressure on other people to fill in where the board falls short

Saturday:
Killeavy v Sarsfields:
No linesmen turned up for game
Fellas that called the line were in plain clothes
One was a Harps man, possible conflict of interest i.e other semi final
Referee had to wear a club jacket/yellow bib to avoid clashing colours with Killeavy

Harps V Cross:
Killeavy fella called line, again possible conflict of interest


Sunday

Ogs v Dromintee:
Referee wore tracksuit bottoms during game
Not enough neutral umpires provided
Referee only played 27 mins in 2nd half, not that this affected the result

Belleeks v S O Neills
Referee,
2 linesmen
4 neutral umpires
Paging flags used

Why such bad organisation of Youth fixtures over the weekend and throughout the year.
The standards that our Co. Board are setting for young players in the county is nothing short of disgraceful and purely undermines the sense of occasion on big days for the young players from the clubs.

Rant Over
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Donagh on October 12, 2009, 12:32:31 PM
You've little to be complaining about. Partisan linesmen are not uncommon throughout the country but let's face it, they're hardly likely to make a game changing decision. So long as the umpires are neutral there should enough support for the ref.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stevie Nicks on October 12, 2009, 12:54:54 PM
What time are the games at on Sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on October 12, 2009, 01:37:04 PM
Agree umpires have much more impact on a game but the linesman can have major affect on a games outcome too

In injury time of game, your team is 2 points in front and in a melee the ball goes out off an opposition player's foot, the linesman who supports that team or for some other reason wants to see your team beaten gives line ball to them.
High ball into square is fisted into net and the whistle blows for full time.

Not going to happen very often, but if the fifty, fifty decisions are constantly going against you they have an accumulative effect, perhaps a player losing his temper at constant  wrong decisions ending up on the line.

(In these PC days should lineman be linesperson  ::) )
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 12, 2009, 01:40:37 PM
I couldn't agree more Cúchulainns but this once again highlights the laughing stock that our county has become. I was talking to a lad from Tyrone and he told me even at under age games all officials are togged out. The worrying thing is that it will be the same if not worse for next year.

On another note where does one get tickets for the county final ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on October 12, 2009, 01:44:14 PM
The County final is not ticketed. You pay at the turnstiles. ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 12, 2009, 02:24:38 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 12, 2009, 01:40:37 PM
I couldn't agree more Cúchulainns but this once again highlights the laughing stock that our county has become. I was talking to a lad from Tyrone and he told me even at under age games all officials are togged out. The worrying thing is that it will be the same if not worse for next year.

On another note where does one get tickets for the county final ???

R u going to the Gerry Arthurs stand Win...lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: camloughlad on October 12, 2009, 05:00:21 PM
never seen wat started the row on saturday,first i new of it was when standin haven the craic i smelled gas and turn round and a load of cops in riot gear usein gas til get the ppl out of the buliding,still no rows goin on at this stage from wat i could see.then ppl started till turn on them cause of the way they heavy handed ppl out of the building.surely if there was a row the hotel security men could of handle it no call for the cops.if the cops hadnt of showsed up none of this would of happen.we were put out of the building and were not aloud til go back in for our coats or nothing.went down yesterday lookin for my coat they said no sorry your coat is not hear
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 12, 2009, 05:26:48 PM
I heard a vicious rumour it was all ticket and i began to panic lads.
:-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

I was there myself camlough and always felt the potential was there for an argument but to be honest i never even witnessed a crooked word being spoken. I left at about 1:30 and the majority of the crowd had dispersed and there were no signs of trouble. I would have thought if it would have been a normal row the bouncers could have dealt with it and there was no call for the cops, probably as you say only made matters worse.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: camloughlad on October 12, 2009, 05:35:57 PM
they dnt be long turnin the story round till suit themselfs.they never once said on the news that they entered the building and started usein cs gas till move innocent people.ppl that would of moved if had of been ask to never mind being pushed and shoved out threw doors that ppl the other side were throwin bottles at could of put them out another door.they were not long sayin that 10 police officers receiving injuries,what about the ppl they injured with there batons and gas.no word of them is there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on October 12, 2009, 09:43:29 PM
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on October 12, 2009, 12:07:19 PM
After taking in 2 days action at Ath. Grounds over the weekend, i have to say the Co. Board need to take a good look at themselves in terms of organising games etc as the 3 games really undermined the clubs taking part and also puts pressure on other people to fill in where the board falls short

Saturday:
Killeavy v Sarsfields:
No linesmen turned up for game
Fellas that called the line were in plain clothes
One was a Harps man, possible conflict of interest i.e other semi final
Referee had to wear a club jacket/yellow bib to avoid clashing colours with Killeavy

Harps V Cross:
Killeavy fella called line, again possible conflict of interest


Sunday

Ogs v Dromintee:
Referee wore tracksuit bottoms during game
Not enough neutral umpires provided
Referee only played 27 mins in 2nd half, not that this affected the result

Belleeks v S O Neills
Referee,
2 linesmen
4 neutral umpires
Paging flags used

Why such bad organisation of Youth fixtures over the weekend and throughout the year.
The standards that our Co. Board are setting for young players in the county is nothing short of disgraceful and purely undermines the sense of occasion on big days for the young players from the clubs.

Rant Over
at r game on sunday the ref lands 20 mins late strolled onto the field blew the whistle for the toss then says right lads hurry up and get this going and everybody keep ure mouth shut and well get on ok.. ??? ??? f##k me what a start ;D both teams laughed and of course the ref took centre stage throughout the match booking about 16 players and neither physio was on the field more than once ::) :o ??? :D complete clown.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 13, 2009, 10:27:40 AM
Well lads it getting closer to the final and i just wanna wish both teams the best of luck and hope the best team on the day wins the match and that whoever the ref is that he doesn't try to be the centre of attention and let the game flow.

On the game itself it could go either way and it will not be any surprise to see the Harps win but I'm gonna stick my neck out and go for the Og's by 2pts as i believe they are that we bit stronger defensively but I'll certainly not be putting any money on this final thats for sure as it will be a lot closer that the bookies are making it out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on October 13, 2009, 10:54:33 AM
I think the general consensus so far is that the Ogs are going to win this one fairly handy. I don't believe that will be the case, i fully expect the Harps to compete for every ball right up to the final whistle. I do believe the Harps will have to play better than they have all season to win this one, but they have definetly the personnel to change the direction of the play. Both teams will have spells of dominance, it will really come down to who scores most heaviliy in these periods. I can see sending offs on sunday, as i think both defences will be tight & there will be a lot of pulling & dragging. Its no secret if we can keep the clarkes scoring tallys down, we have a great chance. If Vernon plays like he did against Granemore, I expect the Harps to nip it  ;D

Don't rule out a draw
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 13, 2009, 11:05:54 AM
Quote from: illdecide on October 12, 2009, 02:24:38 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 12, 2009, 01:40:37 PM
I couldn't agree more Cúchulainns but this once again highlights the laughing stock that our county has become. I was talking to a lad from Tyrone and he told me even at under age games all officials are togged out. The worrying thing is that it will be the same if not worse for next year.

On another note where does one get tickets for the county final ???

R u going to the Gerry Arthurs stand Win...lol


Ill be in the Gerry McKerr stand!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on October 13, 2009, 01:41:50 PM
Shocking news in Armagh town that Ronan Clarke was burgled over the weekend.  They took all his medals, trophies and player awards.

Harpo McKenna's was broken into, in a similar attack.  A knife and fork is missing........
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 13, 2009, 01:53:08 PM
Harpo might get the last laugh with a championship medal on sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on October 13, 2009, 01:54:10 PM
you know what  - he would deserve it - he has been the unsung hero of the harps for a long time - I'd love to see him get his medal
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 13, 2009, 03:57:10 PM
Anyword on the price in to the game, heard it was £12 in town earlier, bit steep, might have to be a steward for the cuchulainns  ;) ;)

Also is the game on TG4, that might deter a few neutrals from making the trip.

Not gonna make any predictions as I feel it will be all on the day and will come down to the individuals on the field.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tullybrick73 on October 13, 2009, 06:50:00 PM
Some new players for Derry panel. Just suggestions and open to discussion:

Joe O'Kane
Collie Devlin
Gavin McLaughlin
Michael McGoldrick
Gavin Donaghy
Blaine Gormley
PJ McCloskey

These are players that I have seen playing and know are good enough. Some may be unavailable due to travelling/not being interested but they have county ability. I haven't seen any of Loup's matches but Brian Doyle sounds like a good player. Is he good enough for county football. Also Paul McVey. Saw a lot of him as an underage player and thought he had great ability.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on October 13, 2009, 07:43:59 PM
Quote from: tullybrick73 on October 13, 2009, 06:50:00 PM
Some new players for Derry panel. Just suggestions and open to discussion:

Joe O'Kane
Collie Devlin
Gavin McLaughlin
Michael McGoldrick
Gavin Donaghy
Blaine Gormley
PJ McCloskey

These are players that I have seen playing and know are good enough. Some may be unavailable due to travelling/not being interested but they have county ability. I haven't seen any of Loup's matches but Brian Doyle sounds like a good player. Is he good enough for county football. Also Paul McVey. Saw a lot of him as an underage player and thought he had great ability.


Absolutely nothing to do with Armagh Club Football and Hurling.



On the game, the nerves are really starting to hit me now I can only imagine how the players are feeling. Both teams have strong players all over the field who can make a difference. Harps have Holmes, McCoy, Vernon, Swift, Toal, Quigley and Kelly, all who would trouble any team. Ogs then have a very strong selection of players round about county standard/well above it like McCoy Rafferty and Duffy in defence, Moore, McManus and 4 Clarkes! Just shows there really will be an excellent standard of players on show this Sunday, as is probably the first time in a long time that both teams will go into the game with a full strength side available so really should tell a tale!

Any Ogs men know what time Loughran's flight in from the states is? He would need some time to get over the jet lag!


Anyone know when the last time a Div. 2 team won the Senior Championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 13, 2009, 08:19:04 PM
Good luck to both teams really looking forward to it.. At first I thought Ogs would win with a few to spare but now I wouldn't be so sure. Both teams are strong in all departments, so its hard to call. I take it both have clean bill of health going into weekend?? I'm hoping they go all out attack although that may be a bit wishful, in any case the tension and atmosphere will be class which makes this match so appealing!!Ogs to slip by by a point!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on October 13, 2009, 10:12:43 PM
think the game on sunday will be nip and tuck for most of the game with plenty of fouling with paudie making plenty of stoppages and bookings. ;) >:( when the game settles down with 10mis to go ::) i think ogs will have to much in the tank and maybe tag 3/4 scores in a row dont think harps have enough in forward line to do the same especially the way ogs defence have been playing this year.. any betting on a red card for sunday would put the morgage on jp donnelly ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 14, 2009, 09:17:26 AM
Quote from: nashville on October 13, 2009, 07:43:59 PM

Any Ogs men know what time Loughran's flight in from the states is? He would need some time to get over the jet lag!


Anyone know when the last time a Div. 2 team won the Senior Championship?

Even if Loughie did fly back he would be ineligable to play (plus I wouldn't start him as I don't think it's fair on the boys who've busted their ass all year :P) for the Ogs so I'm sure he'll be enjoying himself in San Fran waiting to hear the result.

Spirit word on the grapevine is a badly injured quad muscle any truth in this? If so its a bummer for him def deserves a crack at a county final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on October 14, 2009, 10:44:25 AM
For me the Harps big players (Vernon, Toal, Swift, Holmes) have to play well for Harps to win. Ogs are the better team overall but if Vernon and Swift can dominate midfield and Toal and Kelly take their scores they will win. I'd imagine Andy Mallon will mark Toal, worth the admission fee on its own.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 14, 2009, 11:38:33 AM
Is Hughes fit because he was taken of against Clan Eireann??

Also if Mallon is marking Toal i would fancy Mallon to win this one as Toal lacks the sharpness that mallon has but the lad can take a hell of a score.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goldenyears on October 14, 2009, 01:13:49 PM
have heard today that justin mcnulty is new armagh trainer - anyone hear this?

also heard john mcentee off to manage burren next year - anyone back that up? rumour mill in full swing; just curious to see if anything of substance here
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cúig huaire on October 14, 2009, 01:15:39 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on October 14, 2009, 01:13:49 PM
have heard today that justin mcnulty is new armagh trainer - anyone hear this?

Also heard this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on October 14, 2009, 01:53:49 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on October 14, 2009, 01:13:49 PM
have heard today that justin mcnulty is new armagh trainer - anyone hear this?

also heard john mcentee off to manage burren next year - anyone back that up? rumour mill in full swing; just curious to see if anything of substance here
::) some good sources about
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on October 14, 2009, 02:05:04 PM

John Mc the latest Armagh coaching export!

Could be another in louth soon too i hear...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on October 14, 2009, 03:29:51 PM
Talking a look at boylesports odds for the county final there they have it

Ogs 4/9
Draw 15/2
Harps 11/5

Think these odds are a bit harsh on harps think ogs have more firepower but i think the local derby factor will play effect to make this game very close and go right down to the wire which makes me think the draw  may be the value bet or maybe Harps +2 at 5/4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on October 14, 2009, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 14, 2009, 09:17:26 AM
Quote from: nashville on October 13, 2009, 07:43:59 PM

Any Ogs men know what time Loughran's flight in from the states is? He would need some time to get over the jet lag!


Anyone know when the last time a Div. 2 team won the Senior Championship?

Even if Loughie did fly back he would be ineligable to play (plus I wouldn't start him as I don't think it's fair on the boys who've busted their ass all year :P) for the Ogs so I'm sure he'll be enjoying himself in San Fran waiting to hear the result.

Spirit word on the grapevine is a badly injured quad muscle any truth in this? If so its a bummer for him def deserves a crack at a county final.


Why would he be ineligible to play? Surely it's the exact same situation as Kelly, McCoy and McConville who were in San Fran? They came back to play in Quarter Final, just because he comes back later does not make him ineligible to play.

Have heard Ogs men referring to it as their "Johnny Corvan" moment.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 14, 2009, 06:26:48 PM
Quote from: the scenic route on October 14, 2009, 03:29:51 PM
Talking a look at boylesports odds for the county final there they have it

Ogs 4/9
Draw 15/2
Harps 11/5

Think these odds are a bit harsh on harps think ogs have more firepower but i think the local derby factor will play effect to make this game very close and go right down to the wire which makes me think the draw  may be the value bet or maybe Harps +2 at 5/4

do they do handicap betting scenic route?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 14, 2009, 09:44:03 PM
Just read in the Gazzette today that Beefer thinks thinks that the Ogs had the easier route to the final. What does everyone else think of that. I never get bogged down over how teams get to finals but thinking about the Ogs played Carrickcruppin (finished 3rd in the league behind Ogs and Cross), then Cross themselves (nothing needed to be said there) and then Clann Eireann (about the only perceived weak game). Obviously, the Ogs fancied their chances big time against Clann Eireann it was still a tough campaign so far (and will be tougher by Sunday). Harps played 2 div 2 teams on the way and a Clan na Gael team that's rebuiling. So... what's the verdict??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 14, 2009, 10:30:32 PM
Quote from: ogshead on October 14, 2009, 09:44:03 PM
Just read in the Gazzette today that Beefer thinks thinks that the Ogs had the easier route to the final. What does everyone else think of that. I never get bogged down over how teams get to finals but thinking about the Ogs played Carrickcruppin (finished 3rd in the league behind Ogs and Cross), then Cross themselves (nothing needed to be said there) and then Clann Eireann (about the only perceived weak game). Obviously, the Ogs fancied their chances big time against Clann Eireann it was still a tough campaign so far (and will be tougher by Sunday). Harps played 2 div 2 teams on the way and a Clan na Gael team that's rebuiling. So... what's the verdict??

Off the top of my head, there were four Division One teams in our half of the draw, i.e. St Pats, Clans, Dromintee and Mullabawn. I think there were five Division One sides in the Ogs side of the draw, including themselves of course.

In my humble opinion, and looking at our opponents, Granemore would be a better side than Carrickcruppen and Clann Eireann, whilst Ballymacnab, again in my opinion, would be better than Clann Eireann and at least on a par with Carrickcruppen.  Rangers of course would be superior to any of these sides by a distance.

If each opponent was to be given a difficulty rating out of ten, then I don't think there would be a lot of difference when the totals of each Championship run are added up. However that does not reflect on the achievement of the Ogs overcoming Rangers.

To be honest, both sides are there on merit, and the respective difficulties of their Championship runs is not really relevant to Sunday anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 14, 2009, 10:58:14 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on October 14, 2009, 10:30:32 PM
Quote from: ogshead on October 14, 2009, 09:44:03 PM
Just read in the Gazzette today that Beefer thinks thinks that the Ogs had the easier route to the final. What does everyone else think of that. I never get bogged down over how teams get to finals but thinking about the Ogs played Carrickcruppin (finished 3rd in the league behind Ogs and Cross), then Cross themselves (nothing needed to be said there) and then Clann Eireann (about the only perceived weak game). Obviously, the Ogs fancied their chances big time against Clann Eireann it was still a tough campaign so far (and will be tougher by Sunday). Harps played 2 div 2 teams on the way and a Clan na Gael team that's rebuiling. So... what's the verdict??

Off the top of my head, there were four Division One teams in our half of the draw, i.e. St Pats, Clans, Dromintee and Mullabawn. I think there were five Division One sides in the Ogs side of the draw, including themselves of course.

In my humble opinion, and looking at our opponents, Granemore would be a better side than Carrickcruppen and Clann Eireann, whilst Ballymacnab, again in my opinion, would be better than Clann Eireann and at least on a par with Carrickcruppen.  Rangers of course would be superior to any of these sides by a distance.

If each opponent was to be given a difficulty rating out of ten, then I don't think there would be a lot of difference when the totals of each Championship run are added up. However that does not reflect on the achievement of the Ogs overcoming Rangers.

To be honest, both sides are there on merit, and the respective difficulties of their Championship runs is not really relevant to Sunday anyway.

I realise that, just thought I'd raise the point to see what other people thought. He mentioned it in the context that the Ogs would be complacent due to their easier run to the final. Think he was talking a load of cack anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 14, 2009, 11:04:46 PM
Quote from: ogshead on October 14, 2009, 10:58:14 PM
I realise that, just thought I'd raise the point to see what other people thought. He mentioned it in the context that the Ogs would be complacent due to their easier run to the final.

Don't get me wrong now, I enjoy the debates on here about the relative merits of the various teams in the County. I just don't think it will be a factor come Sunday.

Quote from: ogshead on October 14, 2009, 10:58:14 PM
Think he was talking a load of cack anyway

I couldn't possibly comment!!   :-X
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 14, 2009, 11:12:26 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on October 14, 2009, 11:04:46 PM
Quote from: ogshead on October 14, 2009, 10:58:14 PM
I realise that, just thought I'd raise the point to see what other people thought. He mentioned it in the context that the Ogs would be complacent due to their easier run to the final.

Don't get me wrong now, I enjoy the debates on here about the relative merits of the various teams in the County. I just don't think it will be a factor come Sunday.

Quote from: ogshead on October 14, 2009, 10:58:14 PM
Think he was talking a load of cack anyway

I couldn't possibly comment!!   :-X

No, your right, 50/50 game come Sunday... I enjoy the banter as much as the next man and the talk has died off a bit in the last week. The nerves are set in big time and can't wait til Sunday. As I mentioned a few weeks back, I'm glad I'm not a player as I would absolutely crumble under the pressure. May the best team win and may the best team be green and gold  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on October 14, 2009, 11:22:28 PM
getting closer to the big day now, and as mentioned the board has gone a bit quiet.

I expected the Harps to be a better price than 11/5, but being a derby game you never know.

Hopfully the pints will be flowing on sunday nite/ monday morning/nite, & the Gerry Fagan parked just off the loughgall Rd ;D

Come on the HARPS........................

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 15, 2009, 08:34:06 AM
Quote from: nashville on October 14, 2009, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 14, 2009, 09:17:26 AM
Quote from: nashville on October 13, 2009, 07:43:59 PM

Any Ogs men know what time Loughran's flight in from the states is? He would need some time to get over the jet lag!


Anyone know when the last time a Div. 2 team won the Senior Championship?

Even if Loughie did fly back he would be ineligable to play (plus I wouldn't start him as I don't think it's fair on the boys who've busted their ass all year :P) for the Ogs so I'm sure he'll be enjoying himself in San Fran waiting to hear the result.

Spirit word on the grapevine is a badly injured quad muscle any truth in this? If so its a bummer for him def deserves a crack at a county final.


Why would he be ineligible to play? Surely it's the exact same situation as Kelly, McCoy and McConville who were in San Fran? They came back to play in Quarter Final, just because he comes back later does not make him ineligible to play.

Have heard Ogs men referring to it as their "Johnny Corvan" moment.

Is there not some rule or something that states if you play for a team in the states for 90days + you not allowed to play for your club until the following season? AFAIK them boys left San Fran before their 90days was up any of the harps posters confirm this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 15, 2009, 08:38:13 AM
Quote from: fcuksake on October 14, 2009, 11:22:28 PM
getting closer to the big day now, and as mentioned the board has gone a bit quiet.

I expected the Harps to be a better price than 11/5, but being a derby game you never know.

Hopfully the pints will be flowing on sunday nite/ monday morning/nite, & the Gerry Fagan parked just off the loughgall Rd ;D

Come on the HARPS........................

i'm sure the Gerry Fagan will pay a flying visit down the loughgall Rd, before going back to rest in McKinneys house  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Passing_Interest on October 15, 2009, 08:41:18 AM
Beefer is some craic alright.
Highlight of the local papers in any given week is reading his column. :D

However one point I agree whole heartedly on is that whatever happens we should be humble in victory and gracious in defeat.

Remember we're all Armagh City by birth
(........its just some of us are Armagh Harps by the grace of God  :P)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 15, 2009, 08:48:36 AM
the american rule is that when a player transfers to a team in the states he is barred from returning to play for his own club for 60 days. when the 60 days are up he can return at any time and is eligble to play immediatly the transfer is signed back. ps i hope the transfer forms were signed by the harps. a point of note also the boys who returned and then flew back out to boston to play in the all american finals after togging out in the armagh championship 1st round had to be illegal for one club??? was it san fran or ???? rules breach? interesting!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on October 15, 2009, 09:48:44 AM
Sundays final is a very hard game to call. There are so many permutations. The Ogs in my view have it all to lose. They have the following in their favor

1. County final experience (Crucial, it will be intersting to see how the Harps lads perform on the day)
2. Ronan Clarke (a great player)
3. A water tight defence (especially mallon whom i expect to mark Toal)
4. Better team play
5. They defeated cross.

The Harps on the other hand, will have a real hunger to defeat their arch rivals. They have a stronger midfield & some marque players such as Toal & Quigly (if he plays) I would be a bit concerned about our full back line, as it has a tendency to switch off at times. I believe the game will be won/lose in the Ogs half back line. We need to tackle & track back like tigers, do not allow the ogs half backs to bomb forward... Personally I would put big Philly in mid field with vernon & play swift at CHF along side Toal & young ulty lennon - guys with legs & the ability to compete & run with the ball. Play a 2 man FF line with harpos helping out sweeping up breaking ball....

I think the harps need to drive at the ogs with every opportunity - Vernons performance will be crucial to victory. We are up against it, but i do believe we can win this. Up the Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 15, 2009, 11:07:52 AM
It has been unusual following the build up to the final from a totally neutral standpoint.  I was actually talking to a man down here yesterday about winning finals.  Our local Hurling team missed out on the opportunity to go to senior level this week.  They made a lot of changes on the line before the game and made a lot of errors during it apparently.  The man I spoke to is, like me, a football man and asked me what I thought about winning finals and the sort of tactics that teams use which win/lose the game.  I thought about it and said that the team that can treat the game just like any other game and not a final will be the team who wins.  The team that has the mental capacity to just turn up and play a game of football and not get caught up in the whole occassion will be less nervous and therefore make less mistakes, and finals are won by the team that makes less mistakes as opposed to the team who have the best players.

Because Ogs have been in a few Finals, because they showed great mental strenght to beat us, and because they have an all over steady team I would take them to win.  A derby is always hard to predict but I reckon that Ogs will be able to hold their nerve a small bit better and win by 4.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on October 15, 2009, 11:14:49 AM

I would agree with all of that bc. the only query i would have is the definite capacity within the ogs to self destruct.

everything points to a hard fought win but a poor start by the ogs could spell trouble for them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 15, 2009, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: ogshead on October 14, 2009, 09:44:03 PM
I never get bogged down over how teams get to finals but thinking about the Ogs played Carrickcruppin (finished 3rd in the league behind Ogs and Cross)
Ahoy! Clans finished 3rd actually!
On this point though it is hard enough to determain who had the harder route. Ogs obviously disposed of Cross which is in itself an historic victory in Armagh football, but apart from that Cruppen and Clann Eireann aren't exactly what you'd describe as top class sides. Harps had Nab, Clans x2 & Granemore (who I'd rate as Div1 standard) and probably have that extra bit of momentum which could go in their favour.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on October 15, 2009, 05:25:18 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 14, 2009, 06:26:48 PM
Quote from: the scenic route on October 14, 2009, 03:29:51 PM
Talking a look at boylesports odds for the county final there they have it

Ogs 4/9
Draw 15/2
Harps 11/5

Think these odds are a bit harsh on harps think ogs have more firepower but i think the local derby factor will play effect to make this game very close and go right down to the wire which makes me think the draw  may be the value bet or maybe Harps +2 at 5/4

do they do handicap betting scenic route?

Offering harps +2 Ogs -2

check website www.boylesports.com
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 15, 2009, 09:30:45 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 15, 2009, 11:58:02 AM
Quote from: ogshead on October 14, 2009, 09:44:03 PM
I never get bogged down over how teams get to finals but thinking about the Ogs played Carrickcruppin (finished 3rd in the league behind Ogs and Cross)
Ahoy! Clans finished 3rd actually!
On this point though it is hard enough to determain who had the harder route. Ogs obviously disposed of Cross which is in itself an historic victory in Armagh football, but apart from that Cruppen and Clann Eireann aren't exactly what you'd describe as top class sides. Harps had Nab, Clans x2 & Granemore (who I'd rate as Div1 standard) and probably have that extra bit of momentum which could go in their favour.

Sorry my mistake, they must have been third in the league at the time of the game then. Don't think I have looked at the table since start of September
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on October 15, 2009, 09:51:22 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 15, 2009, 08:48:36 AM
the american rule is that when a player transfers to a team in the states he is barred from returning to play for his own club for 60 days. when the 60 days are up he can return at any time and is eligble to play immediatly the transfer is signed back. ps i hope the transfer forms were signed by the harps. a point of note also the boys who returned and then flew back out to boston to play in the all american finals after togging out in the armagh championship 1st round had to be illegal for one club??? was it san fran or ???? rules breach? interesting!

The 3 Harps lads who were in San Fran were still there for the first round of championship, they missed the win over the nab, so when they flew back to Boston they were still legal to play for San Fran as they didn't feature in any league games whilst they were home. Any participation for home club in any game ends the American transfer.

So I fully expect to see Loughran on Sunday, off the bench with 20 to go.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: zoyler on October 15, 2009, 10:09:03 PM
Just want to say that I passed through the city yesterday and its a credit to both teams and their supporters the way the town is dressed up. However was a bit surprised that outside the Ogs ground that they had their flags flying higher then the County one - very bad form!!
Good luck to them both but especially the Harps who our family have always loyaly supported.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on October 16, 2009, 12:31:45 AM
Quote from: nashville on October 14, 2009, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 14, 2009, 09:17:26 AM
Quote from: nashville on October 13, 2009, 07:43:59 PM

Any Ogs men know what time Loughran's flight in from the states is? He would need some time to get over the jet lag!


Anyone know when the last time a Div. 2 team won the Senior Championship?

Even if Loughie did fly back he would be ineligable to play (plus I wouldn't start him as I don't think it's fair on the boys who've busted their ass all year :P) for the Ogs so I'm sure he'll be enjoying himself in San Fran waiting to hear the result.

Spirit word on the grapevine is a badly injured quad muscle any truth in this? If so its a bummer for him def deserves a crack at a county final.


Why would he be ineligible to play? Surely it's the exact same situation as Kelly, McCoy and McConville who were in San Fran? They came back to play in Quarter Final, just because he comes back later does not make him ineligible to play.

Have heard Ogs men referring to it as their "Johnny Corvan" moment.

no disrespect to Greg, great player, and an engine in him that never quits, but i dont think he is in the same league as Corvan. IMHO

heard a rumour STEW arrived in the country and was seen at Harps training togged out on Tue night ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 16, 2009, 08:06:26 AM
Quote from: nashville on October 15, 2009, 09:51:22 PM
So I fully expect to see Loughran on Sunday, off the bench with 20 to go.

I'd love for you to be right nash, the sight of Loughie coming on to drive the team on would certainly make me feel good - I'll wait to see on Sunday but I'll not hold my breath on it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 16, 2009, 10:30:11 AM
what a load of crap about greg loughran. on another note a real blow for one of the most honest and hard working ogs players declan mc auley who broke his ankle at training on weds nite. he has been the main impact sub for the ogs this year. best wishes decky hope to see you playing again soon. what nonsense about a flag flying higher than another someone is starting to sound like nelson mc causland. is wee joe goin to feature he seems to be struggling at training the other nite.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on October 16, 2009, 10:31:30 AM
its not looking good for him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 16, 2009, 10:34:02 AM
will beef get in?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 16, 2009, 10:40:20 AM
was stew at abbey park during the week.  did someone open the double gates, lookin forward to seein him? :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 16, 2009, 11:38:21 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 16, 2009, 10:30:11 AM
what a load of crap about greg loughran. on another note a real blow for one of the most honest and hard working ogs players declan mc auley who broke his ankle at training on weds nite. he has been the main impact sub for the ogs this year. best wishes decky hope to see you playing again soon. what nonsense about a flag flying higher than another someone is starting to sound like nelson mc causland. is wee joe goin to feature he seems to be struggling at training the other nite.

we joe mite feature 1 half
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Muhammed McCarthy on October 16, 2009, 11:53:44 AM
Whatever team that doesn't get upset by nerves will win this game. Ogs are the better team with no real weakness, Harps have a few outstanding players and are capable of causing an upset.
I'm going to go for a Nippy Swift inspired Harps to win by 1 point.......don't know if my heart could take it!!......nor my liver afterwards ;)

Hope it is a good game and that there is no controversey.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on October 16, 2009, 11:59:42 AM
Oh there'll be controversy, you mark my words...... local derbies between the Harps & Ogs are never straightforward. There will be at least 1 dismissal, 1 penalty & 1 appaling referreeing decision to discuss come monday. Hope all of the above 3 are against the Ogs  ;)

Up the Harps... Can't wait ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 16, 2009, 01:02:42 PM
C'MON THE HARPS LETS DO IT. :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 16, 2009, 01:03:31 PM
Kaaat spelling my son. If joe isnt totally fit it could be a big risk. stop shouting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 16, 2009, 01:35:46 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 16, 2009, 01:03:31 PM
Kaaat spelling my son. If joe isnt totally fit it could be a big risk. stop shouting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He mite be fit for 1 half
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 16, 2009, 02:18:38 PM
local derbies are not as big a deal as a few years ago, when the local hard man thumped the shite out of the new kid on the block and put him off his game. different generation, the team best prepared, fitest, more talented and hungrier will prevail
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on October 16, 2009, 02:32:14 PM
does anyone know if it will be on TG4? or any of those online stations?
I know I'll get the audio on Northern Star but it would be great to be able to watch.
Very torn on the winners - would be happy for both teams but my gut feeling is with the Ogs on this one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on October 16, 2009, 02:43:55 PM
its not on tg4, i think they are showing highlights on the monday night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 16, 2009, 03:03:19 PM
switch off the office lights, log-off and lets get ready to rumble. enjoy the occasion everyone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 16, 2009, 03:54:43 PM
hometime! Up the Ogs -  Roll on Sunday!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 16, 2009, 08:02:25 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 16, 2009, 03:54:43 PM
hometime! Up the Ogs -  Roll on Sunday!
x2  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cúig huaire on October 16, 2009, 08:25:31 PM
Are Pearse Ogs the team who play out of the Athletic Grounds?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 16, 2009, 09:44:25 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 16, 2009, 02:18:38 PM
local derbies are not as big a deal as a few years ago, when the local hard man thumped the shite out of the new kid on the block and put him off his game. different generation, the team best prepared, fitest, more talented and hungrier will prevail
You never know, that is true though it could easily go out the window - I hope so anyway, wouldn't mind seeing a few scraps! See if this derby is as big as the city lot are making it out to be!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 16, 2009, 11:08:13 PM
Quote from: Cúig huaire on October 16, 2009, 08:25:31 PM
Are Pearse Ogs the team who play out of the Athletic Grounds?
no they have their own pitch  :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 16, 2009, 11:24:37 PM
C'mon the Harps!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 17, 2009, 12:31:05 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 16, 2009, 10:30:11 AM
on another note a real blow for one of the most honest and hard working ogs players declan mc auley who broke his ankle at training on weds nite. he has been the main impact sub for the ogs this year. best wishes decky hope to see you playing again soon.

Hear hear! Well said!

I was talking to Deccie briefly last night and he was understandably gutted.

Just wish Deccie all the best for a speedy recovery and hope to see him playing again soon! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cúig huaire on October 17, 2009, 12:42:53 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2009, 12:38:04 AM
Yis are awful nice. I thought this was a rivalry. I was expecting knee-cappings, kidnappings and head-cappings.

They are saving all of the above for Paddy O`Rourke. There ll be some craic when Armagh get relegated next year, then lose to Antrim in the first round in Ulster and London away in the qualifiers.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nutsy--1 on October 17, 2009, 11:11:31 AM
Harps for the double. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 17, 2009, 12:32:29 PM
QuoteThere ll be some craic when Armagh get relegated next year, then lose to Antrim in the first round in Ulster

Well losing to Antrim would not be ideal, but we could lose to one of the two "aristocratic" counties that lie below them in the Ulster ranking.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 17, 2009, 01:36:08 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 17, 2009, 12:38:04 AM
Yis are awful nice. I thought this was a rivalry. I was expecting knee-cappings, kidnappings and head-cappings.

I played a bit of soccer with Deccie - the end of my career and the start of his!

I'm desperate to win tomorrow - I'm a nervous wreck thinking about it - but I don't want to see anyone get badly injured!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: camloughlad on October 17, 2009, 02:08:15 PM
shanes won junior last nite  >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Oraisteach on October 17, 2009, 04:16:23 PM
C'mon the Ogs.  I'd love to be back home for this one.  Back in the Athletic Grounds, scene of many a wild tussle.

Anybody know of a radio station carrying the match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 17, 2009, 06:16:13 PM
Quote from: nutsy--1 on October 17, 2009, 11:11:31 AM
Harps for the double. ;) ;)
NUDIE would drink to that  ;D but here,s hoping there,s no celebration on the blue end of town  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 17, 2009, 06:31:54 PM
UP THE HARPS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on October 17, 2009, 06:53:01 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on October 17, 2009, 04:16:23 PM
C'mon the Ogs.  I'd love to be back home for this one.  Back in the Athletic Grounds, scene of many a wild tussle.

Anybody know of a radio station carrying the match?

I'd imagine 5FM, with their inimitable commentator, will be covering it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 17, 2009, 07:02:35 PM
C'MON THE HARPS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 17, 2009, 07:16:59 PM
If Harps win I dont think they'll go too far in Ulster. So, I'll be supporting the Ogs.

Let it be a good clean contest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 17, 2009, 09:17:30 PM
Quote from: camloughlad on October 17, 2009, 02:08:15 PM
shanes won junior last nite  >:( >:( >:( >:(

Why are you angry.? :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on October 17, 2009, 11:45:18 PM
Quote from: torres on October 16, 2009, 11:08:13 PM
Quote from: Cúig huaire on October 16, 2009, 08:25:31 PM
Are Pearse Ogs the team who play out of the Athletic Grounds?
no they have their own pitch  :-*
??? ??? ??? ???

theres me thinking it was leased ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 18, 2009, 02:11:46 AM
Quote from: fcuksake on October 17, 2009, 11:45:18 PM
Quote from: torres on October 16, 2009, 11:08:13 PM
Quote from: Cúig huaire on October 16, 2009, 08:25:31 PM
Are Pearse Ogs the team who play out of the Athletic Grounds?
no they have their own pitch  :-*
??? ??? ??? ???

theres me thinking it was leased ;D

There is dickheads everywhere!!!!!! Up the Ogs!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DCR on October 18, 2009, 09:50:57 AM
Best wishes to the Ogs in today's final from the Loughshore of E Tyrone.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 18, 2009, 12:15:25 PM
I want to welcome cullyhanna back into the c ship.lol. f**k THE COUNTYBOARD AND ALL BELONGING TO THEM...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 18, 2009, 12:42:56 PM
All the best to both teams today, although admittedly  I'd like to see the ogs do it. 

If anyone can post updates, please do so.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 18, 2009, 01:50:56 PM
beaten semi-finalists GRANEMORE beat ballymacnab 9-8  ;D with 1 game left away to maghery where they need a pt to secure promotion .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on October 18, 2009, 01:58:44 PM
Quote from: back off the net on October 18, 2009, 12:15:25 PM
I want to welcome cullyhanna back into the c ship.lol. f**k THE COUNTYBOARD AND ALL BELONGING TO THEM...

What is meant here BOTN are they lifting the ban on them..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 18, 2009, 02:30:24 PM
paul mcgrane made his comeback, scoring the opening point of the game today in Newtown for Ballyhegan. Unfortunately Davitt's still lost 10 - 7 to the intermediate champions. Kevin O'Rourke score taking the difference. Need to beat the Bridge next week to stay up!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: reload on October 18, 2009, 02:36:15 PM
Quote from: ogshead on October 14, 2009, 10:58:14 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on October 14, 2009, 10:30:32 PM
Quote from: ogshead on October 14, 2009, 09:44:03 PM
Just read in the Gazzette today that Beefer thinks thinks that the Ogs had the easier route to the final. What does everyone else think of that. I never get bogged down over how teams get to finals but thinking about the Ogs played Carrickcruppin (finished 3rd in the league behind Ogs and Cross), then Cross themselves (nothing needed to be said there) and then Clann Eireann (about the only perceived weak game). Obviously, the Ogs fancied their chances big time against Clann Eireann it was still a tough campaign so far (and will be tougher by Sunday). Harps played 2 div 2 teams on the way and a Clan na Gael team that's rebuiling. So... what's the verdict??

Off the top of my head, there were four Division One teams in our half of the draw, i.e. St Pats, Clans, Dromintee and Mullabawn. I think there were five Division One sides in the Ogs side of the draw, including themselves of course.

In my humble opinion, and looking at our opponents, Granemore would be a better side than Carrickcruppen and Clann Eireann, whilst Ballymacnab, again in my opinion, would be better than Clann Eireann and at least on a par with Carrickcruppen.  Rangers of course would be superior to any of these sides by a distance.

If each opponent was to be given a difficulty rating out of ten, then I don't think there would be a lot of difference when the totals of each Championship run are added up. However that does not reflect on the achievement of the Ogs overcoming Rangers.

To be honest, both sides are there on merit, and the respective difficulties of their Championship runs is not really relevant to Sunday anyway.

I realise that, just thought I'd raise the point to see what other people thought. He mentioned it in the context that the Ogs would be complacent due to their easier run to the final. Think he was talking a load of cack anyway
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: reload on October 18, 2009, 02:39:55 PM
who is the ref for todays game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 18, 2009, 06:06:37 PM
Congrats to Ogs, cant have any complaints.  After playing very well in the first half we just failed to appear for the second. 

Well done to minors, who won while giving their poorest performance of the year, a good sign I suppose that you can still win doing that.  Our 4th title of the decade, if we can harness the talent we have we shouldn't be long till we're back at senior level.

Good luck to the Ogs in the Ulster, they'll have to step it up bit time for that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on October 18, 2009, 06:10:51 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 18, 2009, 06:06:37 PM
Congrats to Ogs, cant have any complaints.  After playing very well in the first half we just failed to appear for the second. 

Well done to minors, who won while giving their poorest performance of the year, a good sign I suppose that you can still win doing that.  Our 4th title of the decade, if we can harness the talent we have we shouldn't be long till we're back at senior level.

Good luck to the Ogs in the Ulster, they'll have to step it up bit time for that.


Have to agree with everything Benny said.  The better team won, Harps unfortunately didn't perform on the day.  Congratulations to the Ogs!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 18, 2009, 06:11:37 PM
Congratulations to Pearse Ógs. Poor quality game but they were much the better side. Harps' only decent spell came towards the end of the first half when a couple of late points sent them in level at 0-4 each but Harps didn't even get a score in the second half.

Thought Pearse Ógs were just the all round stronger side and produced just enough quality to see them over the line. Marc Cullen and Anto Duffy produced two fine second half scores and but for some wayward shooting they'd have won by far more. Harps will be kicking themselves - didn't do themselves justice at all today and poorly as they played, had they converted a couple of great point chances within a minute of each other in the second half at 0-7 to 0-4, it could have been a different result.

Thought Paudie Hughes had a good game as ref but contributed significantly to the late row which resulted in boths ides being reduced to 14 by not blowing for a clear free to Harps early enough.

Fair play to Ógs anyway - very much the deserving champions and despite today not being a great game, they might do well enough in Ulster.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 18, 2009, 06:15:52 PM
WELL DONE TO PEARSE OGS , COUNTY CHAMPIONS OF ARMAGH .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 18, 2009, 07:43:53 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 18, 2009, 02:30:24 PM
paul mcgrane made his comeback, scoring the opening point of the game today in Newtown for Ballyhegan. Unfortunately Davitt's still lost 10 - 7 to the intermediate champions. Kevin O'Rourke score taking the difference. Need to beat the Bridge next week to stay up!

be some escape 4 newtown to stay up now.  would feel sorry for ballythegan to go down, think newtown have got alot of their points when teams have been going through the motions at end of season.  thought if balyhegan cant beat an already relegated bridge they have no one else to blame
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 18, 2009, 07:45:53 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 18, 2009, 06:11:37 PM
Congratulations to Pearse Ógs. Poor quality game but they were much the better side. Harps' only decent spell came towards the end of the first half when a couple of late points sent them in level at 0-4 each but Harps didn't even get a score in the second half.

Thought Pearse Ógs were just the all round stronger side and produced just enough quality to see them over the line. Marc Cullen and Anto Duffy produced two fine second half scores and but for some wayward shooting they'd have won by far more. Harps will be kicking themselves - didn't do themselves justice at all today and poorly as they played, had they converted a couple of great point chances within a minute of each other in the second half at 0-7 to 0-4, it could have been a different result.

Thought Paudie Hughes had a good game as ref but contributed significantly to the late row which resulted in boths ides being reduced to 14 but not blowing for a clear free to Harps early enough.

Fair play to Ógs anyway - very much the deserving champions and despite today not being a great game, they might do well enough in Ulster.

congrats to the ogs big test for them against the favourites for ulster st galls.  all the best to them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on October 18, 2009, 08:08:52 PM
Pretty poor match, even given the weather. Ogs definitely worthy winners but to be honest, I don't they had to stretch themselves all that much. Harps were extremely disappointing, particularly up front. Four points, none from play and none in the second half, tells its own story.

With the way Ogs play they could give Ulster a good rattle. They're similar to Cross - very tight defensively with one or two marquee forwards. A good defence is a lot more useful than free scoring attack in winter football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on October 18, 2009, 08:39:24 PM
This is eaactly what i thought would happen, the Harps and the Ogs play in a tight affair that was poor in quality and the ogs would win by a few points.  :'(

fair play to the Ogs, to beat Cross in the champioship is some feat and I hope they go on now and give Ulster a ratle.

The toby jug will be flat out the night and me aul mate paul Houlie is probably quaffing pints  there as we speak.

Well done the Ogs and I am very disappointed for the harps lads, our day will come.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on October 18, 2009, 09:24:01 PM
Video as Ogs power to County title

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Og-Power-to-County-Title.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on October 18, 2009, 09:34:31 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 18, 2009, 07:43:53 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 18, 2009, 02:30:24 PM
paul mcgrane made his comeback, scoring the opening point of the game today in Newtown for Ballyhegan. Unfortunately Davitt's still lost 10 - 7 to the intermediate champions. Kevin O'Rourke score taking the difference. Need to beat the Bridge next week to stay up!

be some escape 4 newtown to stay up now.  would feel sorry for ballythegan to go down, think newtown have got alot of their points when teams have been going through the motions at end of season.  thought if balyhegan cant beat an already relegated bridge they have no one else to blame
any result from tones and maghery charlie
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on October 18, 2009, 09:41:11 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on October 13, 2009, 10:12:43 PM
think the game on sunday will be nip and tuck for most of the game with plenty of fouling with paudie making plenty of stoppages and bookings. ;) >:( when the game settles down with 10mis to go ::) i think ogs will have to much in the tank and maybe tag 3/4 scores in a row dont think harps have enough in forward line to do the same especially the way ogs defence have been playing this year.. any betting on a red card for sunday would put the morgage on jp donnelly ;D
game went exactly as i thought with ogs just that bit better on the day at taking their chances harps had plenty of the ball but had little up front to put scores on the board with p.toal having a stinker and when they took off their best forward in lennon (who had scored 2 frees and a 45) the game was over ??? jp didnt let the crowd down lived up to his reputation ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 18, 2009, 09:52:04 PM
Nothing but pure spite frm the harps 2get jp sent of! Shows wot the ogs boys think of him by liftin him on their shoulders after the whistle went. County champions 2009 get in there!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 18, 2009, 09:56:08 PM
I wasn't far wrong with my 4 point prediction.  Well done today to the Ogs, but it's only half a job done.  Other Ogs teams have won Armagh, none have gone further, time to make history.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on October 18, 2009, 10:13:28 PM
has any1 seen the video of the presentation did the co chairman say mr kieran mckinney captain of armagh harps ??? when presenting the cup  ??? i listened to it a few times and thats what it sounds like :o :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on October 18, 2009, 10:22:42 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 18, 2009, 09:52:04 PM
Nothing but pure spite frm the harps 2get jp sent of! Shows wot the ogs boys think of him by liftin him on their shoulders after the whistle went. County champions 2009 get in there!

Jp is a ticking timebomb and it was no surprise to me tha he got sent off again, especially in this match. I was talking to a friend that is a huge ogs head and he predicted that this would happen and he was correct.

Again well done the Ogs and to bc's point, get in there and win the Ulster and AI, they have the talent and now that they have gotten over the Harps they can relax and hopefully enjoy a run in Ulster and beyond.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: under the bar on October 18, 2009, 10:31:37 PM
Well done to Pearse Og's.  Gives their fans something to do now instead of smashing the windows of opposing fans cars.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 18, 2009, 11:46:54 PM
Game was brutal by all accounts don't expect the Ogs to go any further they just don't have that extra bit of class that is required.

Ref had a decent enough game so no blaim can be apportioned to him. On the Jp Donnelly issue i actually thought he did well evading several attempts by harps lads to nail him. He was then caught by the last man and a melee broke out which the harps seemed to be trying to keep going but it was nothing really so two yellows would have been enough imo

I hope the ogs prove me wrong and go on and give the ulster a good rattle . Good to see a new name on the cup  ;D but for how long can the cross be contained ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on October 19, 2009, 08:13:31 AM
Brutal game altogether, not that it will bother the Og's this morning.
The Junior game was probably better and that is saying something

Harps just hadnt the quality up front. Did they even score from play?

P. Hughes had a decent game as well although I did think he gave the Ogs a few soft frees

Og's have a lot of work to do before they can think of advancing in Ulster
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 19, 2009, 08:53:52 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 18, 2009, 07:43:53 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 18, 2009, 02:30:24 PM
paul mcgrane made his comeback, scoring the opening point of the game today in Newtown for Ballyhegan. Unfortunately Davitt's still lost 10 - 7 to the intermediate champions. Kevin O'Rourke score taking the difference. Need to beat the Bridge next week to stay up!

be some escape 4 newtown to stay up now.  would feel sorry for ballythegan to go down, think newtown have got alot of their points when teams have been going through the motions at end of season.  thought if balyhegan cant beat an already relegated bridge they have no one else to blame

Correct Charlie!

Congrats to Ogs - once again their defence was superb yesterday!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 19, 2009, 09:36:14 AM
I think the game panned out pretty much how most people expected it too, what is it with the Harps and 2nd half displays thats 3 or 4 time this year i have seen them and they have not came out for the 2nd half in any of the games. The Og's are very good defensively and most teams will struggle to rattle any kind of score against them, i believe the Og's would get more out of Ronan Clarke if they played him at full forward (he is one of the best full forwards in Ireland) and to me he's not as affective out on the 45 meter line.

The Og's v Belfast hoors, well i hope the Og's can beat them cnuts and if they do they def can win Ulster but for me St Galls will win Ulster as i believe they the best team there at the mo (hope I'm proved wrong though)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 19, 2009, 09:54:21 AM
so do i saan because i have Dromore backed at 13/2 ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on October 19, 2009, 09:59:40 AM
Kieran Hughes says winning the Armagh SFC title is better than winning Sam in 2002

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Og-Power-to-County-Title.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 19, 2009, 10:01:51 AM
I actually think that Ogs could give Ulster a great rattle for this sole reason.  They seem to have an excellent defence.  Ulster clubs are won by teams with mean defences and if Ogs can limit sSt Gall's to 10 scores they will beat them as St gall's will have no one to hold Clarke.  I also agree that they should play him on the FF line, particulalry now.  This time of the year you need a strong fcal point in the attack and by playing him in there they can play any kind of ball in and he will win it.  If he takes 3 scores a game and wins 3 scorable frees, which he will, then Ogs will win against St Galls.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 19, 2009, 10:25:20 AM
Just wanted to say congratulations to our boys. Unbelieveable, I'm so proud to be an Ogs man. On another note, I don't why but a lot of newspaper reports and a harps man on the radio yesterday have been saying that the Ogs were a breakaway club from the Harps. This is total bull, the Ogs were formed as a result of the popular street leagues that were about at the time. Anyway, the talking's over and the Ogs are champions. The billboard at Mickeys was brilliant as well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on October 19, 2009, 10:59:10 AM
As others have said, the game panned out as expected, anybody who was turning up to see a classic was always going to be disappointed. The Harps "marquee" players had a mixed day when they all needed to be in top form to win out. Charlie played very well, except for a bad wide, and carried the fight to the Ogs all day long. Thought Holmes played fairly well, Nippy was causing a v good Ogs defence all sorts of problems in the first half but didn't go well in the second when taken out to midfield and Toal had a stinker. Best of luck to the Ogs in the Ulster.
V impressed with the Harps minors who should give the Ulster tournament a big rattle. They are a big strong outfit. There was more football played in 10 mins in the minor match than there was in the whole of the senior game with plenty of talent on show.
Quote from: BenDover on October 18, 2009, 09:52:04 PM
Nothing but pure spite frm the harps 2get jp sent of! Shows wot the ogs boys think of him by liftin him on their shoulders after the whistle went. County champions 2009 get in there!
Come off it Ben, what do you expect? If there was an Ogs man who had jumped ship to the Harps, the Ogs boys would've done the same and I wouldn't blame them.  There are certain things that you don't do in our sport and what he did is nearly top of the list!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 19, 2009, 11:22:03 AM
No chance mackers, the ogs boys have a bit of class about them, thats why they have fought for 10-12 years for this championship victory and always believed they could win one
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nashville on October 19, 2009, 12:30:54 PM
Congratulations to Pearse Ogs on a very well deserved Senior championship, think it has been coming for a while, just a pity it had to be against us!

On the game itself, I just think it was a case of Harps being out-played by a team with a deeper fitness reserve, a tighter defence and to be honest, and it hurts to say, looked like the team with the far greater will to win. They fully deserved to win what was an atrocious game and only for some wayward shooting in 2nd half Ogs could and maybe should have won by more. It seemed that it just wasn't to be Harps day with Toal and Swift both missing 21 yard frees straight in front of the goals, for Toal's miss I think Kevin should have told him where to go and hit it himself, maybe a bit of naiivety on Kevin's part but his game will come as he gets older and more experienced.

Remember lads it took the Harps 4 attempts in finals in the 80s to win one, yes losing to your biggest rivals in a Championship final will hurt, but hopefully it isn't the end of the road, the boys really need to push on and gain promotion next year and who knows what could happen with a the championship, if we can keep men like Toal, McCoy and Kelly working hard at it with noone leaving for the summer anything could happen with a good bunch of minors coming through, there has to be some talent there you don't win 2 in a row without the ability!

As someone else has already said, I am still proud to be a Harpsman today and was pleased to see so many of our players were gracious in defeat, I noticed quite a few of the boys waiting around afterwards to shake the hands of Ogs men.

Congratulations to Ogs and all the very best for your Ulster championship campaign, time to show all those doubters in Ulster who for the past 13 years have criticised Armagh club football as being crap. Good luck.


NaClairsigh Abú!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 19, 2009, 01:02:31 PM
Mackers come out of it! JP never transferred 2d best team in armagh for nothing. As someone already said with it bein so close 2 full time maybe a good talkin til n a yellow card each would've been better. Is there any chance that red can be rescinded?           Hard luck yest umgola
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 19, 2009, 01:47:03 PM
First of all, congratulations to our nearest and dearest. Pearse Og were the better team and we can have no complaints about the defeat.

For ourselves of course it was a very disappointing day. Looking back on the game now I feel that a lack of experience may have been a factor and possibly a lack of self belief amongst our players. At half time we were hoping that the players would be inspired by going in level and realise that the game was there if they wanted it badly enough. It wasn't to be unfortunately.

It is the nature of GAA games to look back after defeats and try and pinpoint where it all went wrong, and there can be a tendency to look at your own side only. For instance we missed a number of relatively easy scoring chances at vital times, that could have put the Ogs under pressure, and left the game more in the balance. However, on the flip side, Pearse Og dominated play in the second half, and by my count throughout the game had twelve wides to our six - they were the better team and deserved their victory - simple as that.

For us, I thought Conan Lennon, Collie Holmes, Charlie Vernon and Simon Lennon were excellent, and I thought Nippy, Martin McCoy and Philly McKinney gave it their all. For the Ogs, I thought the Duffys were very good, as was Andy Mallon, Ciaran McKinney and young Cullen in the full forward line.

Irrespective of the result and the performance, I'm still very proud to be a Harps man, and proud of the effort that the whole squad put in this year! Hopefully this experience can be built upon in the future! Onwards and upwards!   :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 19, 2009, 01:51:27 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 18, 2009, 10:31:37 PM
Well done to Pearse Og's.  Gives their fans something to do now instead of smashing the windows of opposing fans cars.

What is that about UTB, did someone break ur car window?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onthe40 on October 19, 2009, 02:32:18 PM
What age is Kieran Hughes, now lads? I thought he had retired, he must be mid-30s is he?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on October 19, 2009, 07:39:50 PM
Ronan Clarke speaks to Armagh GAA TV about his fulfilling his dream of winning an Armagh SFC Medal

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Og-Power-to-County-Title.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on October 19, 2009, 09:46:58 PM
Pearse Og manager Brendan Hughes praises captain Ciaran McKinney after the Lucozade Armagh SFC title win

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Og-Power-to-County-Title.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 19, 2009, 10:55:41 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 18, 2009, 10:31:37 PM
Well done to Pearse Og's.  Gives their fans something to do now instead of smashing the windows of opposing fans cars.

w**ker tryin to be a dick, I have been drinkin with harps boys all day and never heard a mention of this, don't take away from the occasion and let us celebrate!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 20, 2009, 12:05:07 AM
Quote from: ogshead on October 19, 2009, 10:55:41 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 18, 2009, 10:31:37 PM
Well done to Pearse Og's.  Gives their fans something to do now instead of smashing the windows of opposing fans cars.

w**ker tryin to be a dick, I have been drinkin with harps boys all day and never heard a mention of this, don't take away from the occasion and let us celebrate!!!!

I know nothing of what under the bar is referring to, but the man himself is from Tyrone if I'm not mstaken? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 20, 2009, 09:09:08 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on October 20, 2009, 12:05:07 AM
Quote from: ogshead on October 19, 2009, 10:55:41 PM
Quote from: under the bar on October 18, 2009, 10:31:37 PM
Well done to Pearse Og's.  Gives their fans something to do now instead of smashing the windows of opposing fans cars.

w**ker tryin to be a dick, I have been drinkin with harps boys all day and never heard a mention of this, don't take away from the occasion and let us celebrate!!!!

He is indeed from Tyrone, Pass no remarks lads he is just stirring the pot

I know nothing of what under the bar is referring to, but the man himself is from Tyrone if I'm not mstaken?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 20, 2009, 09:15:17 AM
Well done to ogs and good effort by the harps. Best team won on the day. Conditions didnt help the football but it was still very intense. I thought JP,s sending off was very harsh and im sure he will be appealing it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on October 20, 2009, 10:41:46 AM
Congrats to Harps Minors,
Killevay posed a few problems but a strong defence is what won it for Harps. Mark Mc Coy and Conor White above the rest along with thwe shooting from Padraig Rafferty in attack.


Congrats to Pearse Ogs,
Not an all time 'great game' but none the less the result is always important in finals.
Good to see a few 'clubmen' with county medals, heres hoping they add a small ball county medal next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 20, 2009, 12:12:46 PM
So it's the ogs now to take on St Galls on the 1st of nov. Really can't see the ogs winning this game as they don't have the fire power to score naturally up front. I too would rather see Ronan on the edge of the square think he would add another dimension to their game. Overall i think the Og's lack pace up front but they have a decent defence. I noticed on sunday that the ogs half backs always played deep up the field effectively making the Harps half forwards track back and become defenders, thus nulifying their attack as they had no one good enough to exploit the huge space. I think this tactic was spot on against the harps as they could always outscore them but St Gall's will be a different animal. I wouldn't have thought the Ogs would want to leave the likes of CJ Mc Courty a massive amount of space to run into to. I would say they would want to compact the defence as much as possible like they did against cross. I eagerly await the battle of A.Mallon and CJ. Both clinking players and almost certainly no quarter will be given. My money is on Mallon to come out on top of this one because he simply won't give Mc Courty a minute (but then again he can be deadly in seconds) :o :o. I can honestly say i have never seen Andy mallon get the run around and i don't expect that to change on the 1st.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 20, 2009, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 20, 2009, 12:12:46 PM
I can honestly say i have never seen Andy mallon get the run around and i don't expect that to change on the 1st.

would have to agree i've played with andy for years and i can't remember anyone gettig much change from him, paul duffy was the same underage
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 20, 2009, 01:45:25 PM
The only time I saw it was from Jim McConville when Andy was a young lad.  Jim made a dummy of him in Cross, not sure of the year.  Jim was in his last year I think and Andy was just in his 2nd season I think.  Real master teaching the pupil that day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 20, 2009, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 20, 2009, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 20, 2009, 12:12:46 PM
I can honestly say i have never seen Andy mallon get the run around and i don't expect that to change on the 1st.

would have to agree i've played with andy for years and i can't remember anyone gettig much change from him, paul duffy was the same underage

Andy is probably in the top 6 defenders in the country, believe me when I say this you just cant escape him, he was up my hole from I was 11 till 18, Bendover can verify that, although I mind a young slim lad gettin 2-7 off the two above lads in an U-14 c'ship, (just remembered we lost that one too) Quigley I think ya called him.

Anyway, just getting over the weekend, well done to the Ogs on a much deserved win and I wish then every success in the their quest for ulster medals.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 20, 2009, 03:07:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 20, 2009, 01:45:25 PM
The only time I saw it was from Jim McConville when Andy was a young lad.  Jim made a dummy of him in Cross, not sure of the year.  Jim was in his last year I think and Andy was just in his 2nd season I think.  Real master teaching the pupil that day.

Well at least he learned from a master BC, wee Jim was a legend and the key was that he did learn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 20, 2009, 04:07:42 PM
Was just reading through the match programme today (which I thought was very well done) and noticed that the Harps have claimed the county titles won by Young Irelands. Now I know that the Harps have always had a connection with them and all that craic but being registered in the GAA as Young Irelands definitely means a different club and you can't claim those titles. I know it's only a small thing but it was a wee bit confusing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on October 20, 2009, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 20, 2009, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 20, 2009, 12:12:46 PM
I can honestly say i have never seen Andy mallon get the run around and i don't expect that to change on the 1st.

would have to agree i've played with andy for years and i can't remember anyone gettig much change from him, paul duffy was the same underage
I remember Paddy Bradley turning Andy inside out in Casement a number of years back.  Think it may have been an Ulster semi final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 20, 2009, 05:19:12 PM
Quote from: Skiddybadoo on October 20, 2009, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 20, 2009, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 20, 2009, 12:12:46 PM
I can honestly say i have never seen Andy mallon get the run around and i don't expect that to change on the 1st.

would have to agree i've played with andy for years and i can't remember anyone gettig much change from him, paul duffy was the same underage
I remember Paddy Bradley turning Andy inside out in Casement a number of years back.  Think it may have been an Ulster semi final.
Correct.  Andy was moved off him after about 20 mins torture.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 20, 2009, 05:22:22 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 19, 2009, 01:02:31 PM
Mackers come out of it! JP never transferred 2d best team in armagh for nothing. As someone already said with it bein so close 2 full time maybe a good talkin til n a yellow card each would've been better. Is there any chance that red can be rescinded?           Hard luck yest umgola
Why on earth would it be rescended ??? ??? A punch not counted as striking these days?   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewingedlady on October 20, 2009, 07:15:54 PM
Quote from: ogshead on October 20, 2009, 04:07:42 PM
Was just reading through the match programme today (which I thought was very well done) and noticed that the Harps have claimed the county titles won by Young Irelands. Now I know that the Harps have always had a connection with them and all that craic but being registered in the GAA as Young Irelands definitely means a different club and you can't claim those titles. I know it's only a small thing but it was a wee bit confusing

Sure saying that the Ogs is a splinter club we should be claiming your four county titles as well.  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 20, 2009, 07:54:32 PM
Quote from: ogshead on October 20, 2009, 04:07:42 PM
Was just reading through the match programme today (which I thought was very well done) and noticed that the Harps have claimed the county titles won by Young Irelands. Now I know that the Harps have always had a connection with them and all that craic but being registered in the GAA as Young Irelands definitely means a different club and you can't claim those titles. I know it's only a small thing but it was a wee bit confusing

It's definitely confusing for me. Should I go with the opinion of the hugely respected GAA historian Conn Shortt, or go with the GAABoard poster known as ogshead?   

I'll have to get back to you on that one!!   ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 20, 2009, 09:43:06 PM
I wouldn't worry Rufus, with or without the YI wins, they are still playing catch up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 21, 2009, 08:23:37 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 20, 2009, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 20, 2009, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 20, 2009, 12:12:46 PM
I can honestly say i have never seen Andy mallon get the run around and i don't expect that to change on the 1st.

would have to agree i've played with andy for years and i can't remember anyone gettig much change from him, paul duffy was the same underage

Andy is probably in the top 6 defenders in the country, believe me when I say this you just cant escape him, he was up my hole from I was 11 till 18, Bendover can verify that, although I mind a young slim lad gettin 2-7 off the two above lads in an U-14 c'ship, (just remembered we lost that one too) Quigley I think ya called him.
:D :D was that the day you shite yourself and missed a penalty? 2-7 is some tally Spirit can't say i remember ever conceding that much on anybody never mind a slim verison of youreslf.

Benny it's out of optimism more than anything that i asked that question as JP would be a big help to the Ogs next weekend
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 21, 2009, 09:03:43 AM
the learned rufus,s father knows that the harps reformed in 1946 4 years before the ogs formed out of the old street leagues to insure games for more men. i think the harps were preceded by young irelands and st. malachys and then before that were known as the harps. an interesting chat one day with older harps and ogs people was that in the sixties an approach was made to amalgamate the clubs due to immigration to england. thank god it didnt happen or we wouldn't have the great rivalry that exists.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on October 21, 2009, 09:05:49 AM
Quote from: BenDover on October 21, 2009, 08:23:37 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 20, 2009, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 20, 2009, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 20, 2009, 12:12:46 PM
I can honestly say i have never seen Andy mallon get the run around and i don't expect that to change on the 1st.

would have to agree i've played with andy for years and i can't remember anyone gettig much change from him, paul duffy was the same underage

Andy is probably in the top 6 defenders in the country, believe me when I say this you just cant escape him, he was up my hole from I was 11 till 18, Bendover can verify that, although I mind a young slim lad gettin 2-7 off the two above lads in an U-14 c'ship, (just remembered we lost that one too) Quigley I think ya called him.
:D :D was that the day you shite yourself and missed a penalty? 2-7 is some tally Spirit can't say i remember ever conceding that much on anybody never mind a slim verison of youreslf.

Benny it's out of optimism more than anything that i asked that question as JP would be a big help to the Ogs next weekend

a slim version?? dont remember that... maybe i'm too young ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on October 21, 2009, 09:35:22 AM
Wet conditions failed to spoil a great occasion for the city of Armagh at the Lucozade Sport SFC Final - This is actually a very good wee video
&
Also there are now extended match highlights from the game available

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Og-Power-to-County-Title.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on October 21, 2009, 11:46:49 AM
http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Og-Power-to-County-Title.aspx

Has anyone watched Ronans interview after the game. How many time does he say "like ya know" in 2 minutes i count 13 lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Passing_Interest on October 21, 2009, 12:14:08 PM
Wanderer and Ogshead and indeed anyone else interested in the history of football in the City.......
I recommend you read Phil McGinn's history of the Harps.
It deals in fair detail with a lot of the points you have raised on here.
Yes, its a history of the Harps but when you read it you realise that its a history of football in the city. A history from which evolved the Harps and the Ogs as we are today.
It showed to me that we have much more in common than we thought.
A good friend of mine, an Ogs comittee member agrees whole heartedly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on October 21, 2009, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: orange2009 on October 21, 2009, 09:35:22 AM
Wet conditions failed to spoil a great occasion for the city of Armagh at the Lucozade Sport SFC Final - This is actually a very good wee video
&
Also there are now extended match highlights from the game available

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Og-Power-to-County-Title.aspx

Were you at the game???

The children's game at half time consisted of better score taking and better handling than that offered up by the Ogs or Harps.

Take Paul Duffy and his midfield brother out of that game and nobody played well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on October 21, 2009, 12:32:21 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 20, 2009, 05:19:12 PM
Quote from: Skiddybadoo on October 20, 2009, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 20, 2009, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 20, 2009, 12:12:46 PM
I can honestly say i have never seen Andy mallon get the run around and i don't expect that to change on the 1st.

would have to agree i've played with andy for years and i can't remember anyone gettig much change from him, paul duffy was the same underage
I remember Paddy Bradley turning Andy inside out in Casement a number of years back.  Think it may have been an Ulster semi final.
Correct.  Andy was moved off him after about 20 mins torture.

Thats right. Think that was the day everyone got the heads burnt off them. Think John Toal got the goal that sealed the match. AM was getting roasted by PB and i remember Paul Grimley seemed to be the one that made the swap and put McNulty on PB. Enda quietened him. Have a feeling big Joe was banished to the stands that day for some reason.

That said AM is quality corner back and i hope he is around for Armagh for a long time to come.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 21, 2009, 01:14:42 PM
Quote from: maddog on October 21, 2009, 12:32:21 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 20, 2009, 05:19:12 PM
Quote from: Skiddybadoo on October 20, 2009, 05:04:20 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 20, 2009, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 20, 2009, 12:12:46 PM
I can honestly say i have never seen Andy mallon get the run around and i don't expect that to change on the 1st.

would have to agree i've played with andy for years and i can't remember anyone gettig much change from him, paul duffy was the same underage
I remember Paddy Bradley turning Andy inside out in Casement a number of years back.  Think it may have been an Ulster semi final.
Correct.  Andy was moved off him after about 20 mins torture.

Thats right. Think that was the day everyone got the heads burnt off them. Think John Toal got the goal that sealed the match. AM was getting roasted by PB and i remember Paul Grimley seemed to be the one that made the swap and put McNulty on PB. Enda quietened him. Have a feeling big Joe was banished to the stands that day for some reason.

That said AM is quality corner back and i hope he is around for Armagh for a long time to come.

That was the 2005 Ulster semi final I believe.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on October 21, 2009, 01:16:03 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on October 21, 2009, 12:21:18 PM
Quote from: orange2009 on October 21, 2009, 09:35:22 AM
Wet conditions failed to spoil a great occasion for the city of Armagh at the Lucozade Sport SFC Final - This is actually a very good wee video
&
Also there are now extended match highlights from the game available

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Og-Power-to-County-Title.aspx

Were you at the game???

The children's game at half time consisted of better score taking and better handling than that offered up by the Ogs or Harps.

Take Paul Duffy and his midfield brother out of that game and nobody played well.

I never knew that Anto was a brother of Paul's.  Anto sure looks impressive for a young lad. 
I was also hugely impressed by the Harps number 18 (Marty McCoy I think) - he looks to have a great future ahead of him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 21, 2009, 10:06:12 PM
Quote from: Passing_Interest on October 21, 2009, 12:14:08 PM
Wanderer and Ogshead and indeed anyone else interested in the history of football in the City.......
I recommend you read Phil McGinn's history of the Harps.
It deals in fair detail with a lot of the points you have raised on here.
Yes, its a history of the Harps but when you read it you realise that its a history of football in the city. A history from which evolved the Harps and the Ogs as we are today.
It showed to me that we have much more in common than we thought.
A good friend of mine, an Ogs comittee member agrees whole heartedly.

Can you still get copies of it and if you can, where? I would be interested in reading that as my history of Gaelic in the city would not be that great. I was in case anyone didn't notice, on the windup when I made that comment earlier.  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Passing_Interest on October 21, 2009, 10:19:17 PM
Ogshead.......
Not sure if you want a copy or if you're messing now. :-\
If you or anyone else wants a good read i suggest you pm Rufus.......rumour has it that he has a spare copy or 2.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 21, 2009, 10:21:52 PM
Harps club. Are trim print
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 21, 2009, 10:26:46 PM
Quote from: Passing_Interest on October 21, 2009, 10:19:17 PM
Ogshead.......
Not sure if you want a copy or if you're messing now. :-\
If you or anyone else wants a good read i suggest you pm Rufus.......rumour has it that he has a spare copy or 2.

No I'm serious, I am a GAA man as well as an Ogs man, I'll have a look, just seen It's Kaaaat's comment, so I know where to go, cheers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 22, 2009, 08:46:32 AM
Kaaat i warned you about your grammer. wise and start studying at school better. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on October 22, 2009, 10:14:58 AM
All Ireland winning minor captain Declan McKenna led Armagh Harps to victory in the Armagh MFC decider against Killeavey. See the closing stages and celebrations

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/Harps-make-it-2-Minor-titles-in-a-row.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on October 22, 2009, 10:29:30 AM
I see Orange 2009 is promoting all things relating to the Armagh County Board.
Is he based at Dalton Road, Armagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 22, 2009, 12:42:25 PM
Quote from: Carbery on October 22, 2009, 10:29:30 AM
I see Orange 2009 is promoting all things relating to the Armagh County Board.
Is he based at Dalton Road, Armagh?

I don't think he particularly hides that to be fair. By the way in my quest to be even handed and balanced when it comes to our county board, I think I should point out that the programme on Sunday was excellent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 22, 2009, 09:03:28 PM
NEXT YEARS GAA FIXTURES.
Derry v Armagh winners play monghan.
Tyrone v Antrim
Donegal v down
Cavan.fermanagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 23, 2009, 04:21:49 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on October 21, 2009, 09:05:49 AM
Quote from: BenDover on October 21, 2009, 08:23:37 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 20, 2009, 02:51:34 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 20, 2009, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 20, 2009, 12:12:46 PM
I can honestly say i have never seen Andy mallon get the run around and i don't expect that to change on the 1st.

would have to agree i've played with andy for years and i can't remember anyone gettig much change from him, paul duffy was the same underage

Andy is probably in the top 6 defenders in the country, believe me when I say this you just cant escape him, he was up my hole from I was 11 till 18, Bendover can verify that, although I mind a young slim lad gettin 2-7 off the two above lads in an U-14 c'ship, (just remembered we lost that one too) Quigley I think ya called him.
:D :D was that the day you shite yourself and missed a penalty? 2-7 is some tally Spirit can't say i remember ever conceding that much on anybody never mind a slim verison of youreslf.

Benny it's out of optimism more than anything that i asked that question as JP would be a big help to the Ogs next weekend

a slim version?? dont remember that... maybe i'm too young ;)

Well young Rooney I must have went past you that quick you cant remember ;) ::), Nah missed the pen the feile final earlier in the year. Im talking no-more about, the scars are still there on the heart.

Lurganblue, Pot Kettle Black :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 24, 2009, 12:06:34 AM
What r u saying...Lurgan Blue is like a we HOTDOG :D...he's got some DOME on him thats for sure ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: reload on October 24, 2009, 08:02:27 PM
any results from cross today
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on October 24, 2009, 08:42:58 PM
ulster won 1-14 1-10 :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ITS KAAAT on October 25, 2009, 02:23:57 PM
Any word on granemore game today.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on October 25, 2009, 04:25:06 PM
granemore got beat by a point! play off now needed!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on October 25, 2009, 04:40:08 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on October 25, 2009, 04:25:06 PM
granemore got beat by a point! play off now needed!

Is the play off now between Granemore and Maghery? Ballyhegan won by 9 points and stay in Div. 2.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 25, 2009, 05:00:35 PM
Who's down then, Silverbridge & who?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 25, 2009, 05:03:31 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 25, 2009, 05:00:35 PM
Who's down then, Silverbridge & who?

newtown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 25, 2009, 05:04:12 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on October 25, 2009, 04:25:06 PM
granemore got beat by a point! play off now needed!

think maghery got a goal with 2 mins left to win 2-10 to 0-15
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on October 25, 2009, 05:42:47 PM
granemore were 4 up at half time,maghery got 2nd goal with 2 to go which put them 2 in front,granemore scored a free to put the minimum in it with time up maghery won the kick out and ran the clock down. not much between these two teams with g`more winning by point 1st match and maghery by 1 today so be another good tight game next week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 25, 2009, 07:48:09 PM
where will this be played? neutral venue?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Muhammed McCarthy on October 26, 2009, 07:36:17 AM
One week on from the Ogs win and I see fron all the posts that not one poster (especially the Ogs lads) gave any mention to former manager Adrian Clarke.......I always thought him a good manager and that he was very unlucky not to win a championship.
Somethings never change :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 26, 2009, 08:47:31 AM
ball--ks mc carthy, all the congratulations and acknowledgements where done in house at the celebrations. don't think the ogs have to mouth on the board just to allow some half-wits to comment. the same was done at the harps gathering. >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: altovito on October 26, 2009, 09:57:53 AM
was any1 at the bhegan and bridge gme?
did the bridge just roll ovr and die?glad to c them down in div3 anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Muhammed McCarthy on October 26, 2009, 10:27:54 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 26, 2009, 08:47:31 AM
ball--ks mc carthy, all the congratulations and acknowledgements where done in house at the celebrations. don't think the ogs have to mouth on the board just to allow some half-wits to comment. the same was done at the harps gathering. >:(

You must have been busy, attending both clubs after the match....as for mouthing :o and half-wits  :oyou are speaking from experience obviously :D

Congrats to the Ogs and in particular my good friend Adrian.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 26, 2009, 10:43:46 AM
you obviously dont have too many friends if all you can do is spend time recording shite on the board. i dont think you are too big of a friend of adrian as im sure he wouldn't want to start silly debates in public. thank god i can go to either club. ps your obviously one of these failed footballers who have nothing but a big mouth ;) bit like your part namesake except he had talent ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Muhammed McCarthy on October 26, 2009, 11:12:09 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 26, 2009, 10:43:46 AM
you obviously dont have too many friends if all you can do is spend time recording shite on the board. i dont think you are too big of a friend of adrian as im sure he wouldn't want to start silly debates in public. thank god i can go to either club. ps your obviously one of these failed footballers who have nothing but a big mouth ;) bit like your part namesake except he had talent ;D

You base this on what? Maybe you should change your name to Mystic Meg :D
No one was starting a silly debate...I was just commenting on the fact that I thought he deserved a mention for all his hard work. It's good that you can go to both clubs, maybe I'll see you in the Harps next time your in and we''ll see if you can "walk the walk" ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 26, 2009, 11:41:52 AM
He crrently has his "IT Experts" working on your identity!

Expect a knock on the door!  :-\

Missed the game altovito - by all accounts it was comfortable though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 26, 2009, 01:00:04 PM
what has the ac/ogs got to do with u if your a harps man/woman. as pat mooloy would say twt. as for walkin the walk been there and done it my son ;) dont be trying to get browney points or free taxis. ;D as for goats THE BIG MANS GOIN TO GET YOU. ps good to see the davitts survive. who is now relegated confusion on the armagh website tables. is the maghery v granemore playoff in the athletic grounds on theweds nite?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Muhammed McCarthy on October 26, 2009, 01:19:00 PM
Bit touchy are you?....Clarkey must have dropped you to the "development" squad along with top players like Kevin Oliver and Louis :D
I think Pat Molloy would say CIO ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 26, 2009, 01:31:17 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 26, 2009, 01:00:04 PM
as for goats THE BIG MANS GOIN TO GET YOU. ps good to see the davitts survive. who is now relegated confusion on the armagh website tables. is the maghery v granemore playoff in the athletic grounds on theweds nite?

The big man get's us all at some stage!  ::)

Silverbridge & St Micks Newtown are down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 26, 2009, 02:33:45 PM
let me tell u kevin has probually the biggest selection of championship medals in the county without kickin a ball. last count it was 10. ;D as for mr o n watch what you say there as he is a ticking time bomb :o and a new irish expert.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on October 26, 2009, 03:04:49 PM
Quote from: altovito on October 26, 2009, 09:57:53 AM
was any1 at the bhegan and bridge gme?
did the bridge just roll ovr and die?glad to c them down in div3 anyway.

You sound dead on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on October 26, 2009, 05:02:10 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 26, 2009, 01:00:04 PM
what has the ac/ogs got to do with u if your a harps man/woman. as pat mooloy would say twt. as for walkin the walk been there and done it my son ;) dont be trying to get browney points or free taxis. ;D as for goats THE BIG MANS GOIN TO GET YOU. ps good to see the davitts survive. who is now relegated confusion on the armagh website tables. is the maghery v granemore playoff in the athletic grounds on theweds nite?
word is g`more v maghery play off is friday week in athletic grounds
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 26, 2009, 07:26:45 PM
Town;
1. Paul Wilson (St. Peter's), 2. Alan Wilson (Éire Óg), 3. Michael Austin (Clan na
Gael), 4. Ryan McCaughley (St. Paul's), 5. Andrew Murnan (St. Paul's), 6. Paul Brady
(St. Peter's), 7. Barry McDonald (Tír na nÓg), 8. Mark Beattie (Clann Éireann), 9.
David Turley (Tír na nÓg), 10. Paul O'Hagan (Clan na Gael), 11. Ronan Austin (Clan
na Gael), 12. Sean McDermott (Clann Éireann), 13. A.N Other (Tír na nÓg), 14. Ryan
Henderson (C) (Clann Éireann), 15. Paul Creaney (Éire Óg).

Interchange: Conor Bell (Clann Éireann), Conor McCaffery, Steven O'Hagan (Clan na
Gael), Steven McCann (Tír na nÓg), Emmet Haughian, Eoin McCormack (St. Peter's),
Mark Fegan, Steven Burns (Éire Óg), Ciaran Nash, Daniel McDonald (St. Paul's).


Country;
1. Ciaran Murray (Wolfe Tones), 2. Steven Cusack (Maghery), 3. Brendan Donaghy
(Clonmore), 4. Owen McCormack (Annaghmore), 5. Ryan McQuillan (Wolfe Tones), 6.
Finnian Moriarty (C) (Wolfe Tones), 7. Paul Magee (Sarsfields), 8. James Lavery
(Maghery), 9. Steven Tiffany (Ballyhegan), 10. Martin Convie (Clonmore), 11. Paul
McGaughey (Sarsfields), 12. Paddy McKeever (Ballyhegan), 13. Oisin MacIomhar
(Annaghmore), 14. Stefan Forker (Maghery), 15. Johnny Reynolds (Sarsfields).

Interchange: Gavin McGilly (Annaghmore), Rory Cunningham (Clonmore), Paul McGrane,

Mel Courtney (Ballyhegan), Eamon McGeown, Mark Reynolds (Sarsfields), Paul Forker
(Maghery), Declan Lavery (Wolfe Tones).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on October 26, 2009, 08:22:47 PM
is granmore game this friday night in armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 26, 2009, 09:46:00 PM
granemore maghery 7.30 this friday in athletic grounds f mc donald(crossmaglen) referee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on October 27, 2009, 07:57:11 AM
Granemore V Maghery is changed to Fri 6th Nov. by agreement with both clubs. The time and venue is still the same. Not sure if the ref will be cross or not,he may be in a good mood!!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 27, 2009, 08:45:35 AM
so what in relation to the ref frank is very fair and will handle it well. :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 27, 2009, 08:50:54 AM
Kaaat sneaking the lap-top to bed again, now now ;) posting after 9pm watershed :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 27, 2009, 09:40:54 AM
mc carthy, only bond basildon bond. see u at the weekend. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 28, 2009, 08:35:15 AM
Kaaat im goin to have to tell on you, near midnight now. hope ur not surfing the net for bad pictures. >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 28, 2009, 03:14:16 PM
Quote from: ITS KAAAT on October 28, 2009, 02:06:41 PM
I LIKE STAYING UP LATE. :D I ONLY COME ON OUT AT NITE, IM LIKE A OWL
and i thought owls were wise  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 28, 2009, 03:46:08 PM
wise up bendover, owls from  the town are stupid. any one would know that! didnt you know that Kaaat. :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 28, 2009, 06:15:44 PM
no kaaat your the top owl ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 28, 2009, 09:07:23 PM
Good luck to Pearse Ogs in the Ulster Club Championship on Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 29, 2009, 08:58:37 AM
you our??? kaaat u should listen more in remedial class to your English teacher ;) Good touch Crossfire.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on October 29, 2009, 04:26:33 PM
anyone for the town vrs country match at the weekend? who won this last year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 29, 2009, 05:11:41 PM
poor old kaaat has gone missing. are there any more county trials before xmas. does anyone know any new faces that have impressed so far?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 29, 2009, 06:59:01 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on October 27, 2009, 07:57:11 AM
Granemore V Maghery is changed to Fri 6th Nov. by agreement with both clubs. The time and venue is still the same. Not sure if the ref will be cross or not,he may be in a good mood!!! ;D
i hope he,s better towards granemore than that last one on sunday  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on October 29, 2009, 09:50:56 PM
 Good luck to Cross the Ogs on Sunday (sorry force of habit)  ;D

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 30, 2009, 04:47:09 PM
I ve just been asked by a number of Harps men to wish the OGS all the best on sunday in casement. It sounded like Judith Chalmers Wish you were here. nice touch boys. 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on October 30, 2009, 07:42:18 PM
good luck to the ogs on sunday will be there to cheer   yous on  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 30, 2009, 11:58:26 PM
all the best to the OGS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: theCritic on October 31, 2009, 08:25:34 AM
no ref showd up again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gotthereb4u on October 31, 2009, 02:17:06 PM
have the ogs a clean bill of health at the minute?? Is jp donnelly free to play?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on October 31, 2009, 04:22:46 PM
jp got 2 months so he is out. decky mcauley is out.
shorty has a bad groin dont know if he'l start or not
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Muhammed McCarthy on November 01, 2009, 06:43:39 AM
Quote from: pearseog on October 31, 2009, 04:22:46 PM
jp got 2 months so he is out. decky mcauley is out.
shorty has a bad groin dont know if he'l start or not

Wanderer....throw the boots in the boot just in case ;)
Good luck today 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 02, 2009, 02:51:01 PM
MC carthy put them in the boot just in case and then the rain ruined my moment of glory ps thanks for the good luck note ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on November 03, 2009, 09:24:29 AM
I don't think it has been mentioned yet but the Middletown player B F McCann died suddenly at his home on Sunday. I would like to express my deepest sympathy to the McCann family and the GAA fraternity in Middletown on their sudden and tragic loss. Ar dheis Dé go raibh a anam.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mhacadoir on November 03, 2009, 09:49:53 AM
BF was from my own club - a heartbreaking time for the whole family and the community in Middletown. RIP
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on November 03, 2009, 01:07:11 PM
 I'd like to extend my sincere sympathy to the McCann family, and to the Middletown club as a whole. A great loss, and puts everything into context when you hear of such tragedies.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on November 03, 2009, 03:18:32 PM
Just Like to extend my deepest sympathy to the McCann family and to the GAA community in Middletown, had some great yarns with BF both as a barman and in Joe's having a pint myself. Sadly missed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 03, 2009, 04:46:46 PM
Does anyone know what happened to BF,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on November 03, 2009, 04:50:08 PM
Is it just me or are there a lot of young men dying from heart attacks or heart conditions in Armagh and the surrounding area?
Very sad indeed for the family and all of Middletown.  It's a tight knit community and everyone will be mourning his loss.

RIP
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 03, 2009, 04:51:15 PM
sad time for the mc cann and middletown gaels.  a tough weekend also for the Pearse og family with the sad death of one of the most passionate ogs loyal members and characters TOMMY POWELL ( TP ). TP was a regular attender over the years at all ogs matches and looked after the score board during games at Pearse Og Park. He was a referee for some years and took charge of a number of county finals. he will be badly missed for the banter and slagging at irish street waterholes at the weekends RIP.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on November 03, 2009, 06:30:25 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 03, 2009, 04:51:15 PM
sad time for the mc cann and middletown gaels.  a tough weekend also for the Pearse og family with the sad death of one of the most passionate ogs loyal members and characters TOMMY POWELL ( TP ). TP was a regular attender over the years at all ogs matches and looked after the score board during games at Pearse Og Park. He was a referee for some years and took charge of a number of county finals. he will be badly missed for the banter and slagging at irish street waterholes at the weekends RIP.


Ach thats awful, i knew TOMMY Powell fairly well, he sent me off twice and was nice enough to call me a bollocks after the second time, I always had time for him and he me, I am very sorry t hear that.

As for the young lad from Middletown, that is awful and this sort of thing does seem to be happening all too often around Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Midman on November 03, 2009, 09:19:15 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on November 03, 2009, 03:18:32 PM
Just Like to extend my deepest sympathy to the McCann family and to the GAA community in Middletown, had some great yarns with BF both as a barman and in Joe's having a pint myself. Sadly missed

BF was a great lad and a handy footballer, I played together with him and his two brothers (the twins) for many a year. I used to have a chat with him anytime I got home to Middletown. A good lad a really tragic loss for the McCann Family. RIP
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 04, 2009, 03:43:05 PM
Another sad occasion in Armagh with the death of Paul (beano) kellys wife Christine who died today after a long battle with illness. Paul was a former player with the Ogs and then with Clady where his late wife hailed from ( nee Mc Cann) and their son Anto is an underage member with the Ogs. RIP for someone so young.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: milltown row on November 04, 2009, 09:57:40 PM
Quote from: Midman on November 03, 2009, 09:19:15 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on November 03, 2009, 03:18:32 PM
Just Like to extend my deepest sympathy to the McCann family and to the GAA community in Middletown, had some great yarns with BF both as a barman and in Joe's having a pint myself. Sadly missed

BF was a great lad and a handy footballer, I played together with him and his two brothers (the twins) for many a year. I used to have a chat with him anytime I got home to Middletown. A good lad a really tragic loss for the McCann Family. RIP

was that the lad that played RHB for middletown v Naomhgall in interm final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on November 05, 2009, 09:23:21 AM
 
Quote from: milltown row on November 04, 2009, 09:57:40 PM
Quote from: Midman on November 03, 2009, 09:19:15 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on November 03, 2009, 03:18:32 PM
Just Like to extend my deepest sympathy to the McCann family and to the GAA community in Middletown, had some great yarns with BF both as a barman and in Joe's having a pint myself. Sadly missed

BF was a great lad and a handy footballer, I played together with him and his two brothers (the twins) for many a year. I used to have a chat with him anytime I got home to Middletown. A good lad a really tragic loss for the McCann Family. RIP

was that the lad that played RHB for middletown v Naomhgall in interm final?

No That was Barney McCann, his cousin.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 06, 2009, 10:24:00 PM
maghery 0-08 granemore 0-05

granemore left the shooting boots at home in the first half counted 8 wides alone.  dont think they scored from play to the last 5 mins.  stefan forker kicked over a few good frees for the winners.  typical winter football never going to be a thriller.

maghery up to first now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on November 07, 2009, 09:03:21 AM
well done maghery last night regaining div status again. thats now 3 north armagh teams in div 1 :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on November 07, 2009, 10:51:20 AM
congratulations to maghery on their victory , granemore will feel they kicked themselves out of it kicking 16 wides plus losing c o, connor to injury in the first half did,nt help  but on the night the best team won .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on November 07, 2009, 09:06:54 PM
Link to pic of game between Granemore and Maghery

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157622631167025/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on November 07, 2009, 11:24:05 PM
Quote from: emainmacha on November 07, 2009, 09:06:54 PM
Link to pic of game between Granemore and Maghery

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157622631167025/
some great shots there , well done  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on November 08, 2009, 01:06:25 PM
Ta torres, dislike taking them under floodlights but was happy with some of them  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on November 08, 2009, 01:33:41 PM
Quote from: emainmacha on November 08, 2009, 01:06:25 PM
Ta torres, dislike taking them under floodlights but was happy with some of them  ;D
was that maghery player trying to catch flys or what with his tongue hanging out like that  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on November 08, 2009, 02:51:47 PM
Bad News from Ruislip...

Ciaran McKeever suspected broken leg - whilst playing for Ulster

Hopefully this is not the case
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 08, 2009, 02:55:49 PM
Quote from: Shortso79 on November 08, 2009, 02:51:47 PM
Bad News from Ruislip...

Ciaran McKeever suspected broken leg - whilst playing for Ulster

Hopefully this is not the case

Got a text from a fella at the match saying an ambulance had to be called an all. Bad news for Armagh and Cullyhanna.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on November 08, 2009, 02:57:39 PM
was that maghery player trying to catch flys or what with his tongue hanging out like that  :P
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i think he could taste div 1 football by that stage :P :P :P :P :P ;D :D ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on November 08, 2009, 03:23:20 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 08, 2009, 02:55:49 PM
Quote from: Shortso79 on November 08, 2009, 02:51:47 PM
Bad News from Ruislip...

Ciaran McKeever suspected broken leg - whilst playing for Ulster

Hopefully this is not the case

Got a text from a fella at the match saying an ambulance had to be called an all. Bad news for Armagh and Cullyhanna.

Radio Ulster saying that Injury is not as bad as first expected - Fingers crossed this is the case...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gotthereb4u on November 08, 2009, 05:52:26 PM
Pearse ogs had hard luck today in the ulster club. Experience cost them big time. Andy Mallon and Paul Duffy were unbelieavble at times,superb performances.

However, Ronan Clarkes performance was poor. He kicked a lovely point near the end of the first half but then faded terribly. He looked unfit and a little grumpy at times!! Then he missed what would have been the winning of the game, a horrendous attemp on goal when the ball should have been passed to shorty. Worringly, he didnt look like a county standard footballer today. Chris Rafferty also didnt get into it, think he is a little overrated anyway. lost a lot of possession today and struggled for the 60mins, as did mccoy.

Hard luck ogs and hats off to andy mallon and paul duffy for their powerhouse displays,a credit to the club!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on November 08, 2009, 06:07:51 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on November 08, 2009, 02:57:39 PM
was that maghery player trying to catch flys or what with his tongue hanging out like that  :P

i think he could taste div 1 football by that stage :P :P :P :P :P ;D :D ;) ;)
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probably did , but if  he leaves it hanging out like that when in a 50/50 challenge in the 1st division he,ll not be playing in it too long  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on November 08, 2009, 06:11:21 PM
Paul Duffy was immense today. He is able to buy that little extra time to play the right ball.

Andy Mallon had a very good game.

Ronan grumpy? Whaddyaonabout? I thought Ronan Clarke did very well. He make the right choiuce going for goal - if he'd passed it, then Shorty would have been surrounded.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on November 08, 2009, 06:38:06 PM
north armagh town v country match today was won by the country lads running out by 2 point winners at the end with stefan forker getting a classy winner after ryan henderson had missed a penalty for the townies .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 08, 2009, 07:30:22 PM
Some ofthe Ogs boys near me were suprised that R Clarke played at all, apparently he was very sick during the week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on November 08, 2009, 08:09:27 PM
cruppen still inwith a shout for 3 u-21s in a row
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on November 08, 2009, 08:33:59 PM
hard luck to the OGS who by all accounts made a real game of it .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on November 08, 2009, 08:55:21 PM
Re Maghery man taste'n div 1 football, if in 50/50 tackle he'd just not talk about it  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on November 08, 2009, 09:10:13 PM
hard luck ogs. wat happened that shorty clarke was not started today.  he was really missed..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on November 08, 2009, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: gotthereb4u on November 08, 2009, 05:52:26 PM
Pearse ogs had hard luck today in the ulster club. Experience cost them big time. Andy Mallon and Paul Duffy were unbelieavble at times,superb performances.

However, Ronan Clarkes performance was poor. He kicked a lovely point near the end of the first half but then faded terribly. He looked unfit and a little grumpy at times!! Then he missed what would have been the winning of the game, a horrendous attemp on goal when the ball should have been passed to shorty. Worringly, he didnt look like a county standard footballer today. Chris Rafferty also didnt get into it, think he is a little overrated anyway. lost a lot of possession today and struggled for the 60mins, as did mccoy.

Hard luck ogs and hats off to andy mallon and paul duffy for their powerhouse displays,a credit to the club!!

if you had have known that Ronan had a lung infection you maybe wouldn't have dismissed him so much. Any other time I would have bet the house on him. He has saved the Ogs many times over the years and he is a legend and nobody in the Ogs would say any different. As for what you said about Mc Coy, your talkin through your ass, he was brilliant.... It's looking good for the future and we can look back on a brilliant year for the club on and off the field!! Na Piarsaigh Óga abu!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on November 08, 2009, 10:04:47 PM
hope ciaran is not badly injured he will be a big loss for armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 09, 2009, 08:24:05 AM
Quote from: ogshead on November 08, 2009, 10:03:46 PM
Quote from: gotthereb4u on November 08, 2009, 05:52:26 PM
Pearse ogs had hard luck today in the ulster club. Experience cost them big time. Andy Mallon and Paul Duffy were unbelieavble at times,superb performances.

However, Ronan Clarkes performance was poor. He kicked a lovely point near the end of the first half but then faded terribly. He looked unfit and a little grumpy at times!! Then he missed what would have been the winning of the game, a horrendous attemp on goal when the ball should have been passed to shorty. Worringly, he didnt look like a county standard footballer today. Chris Rafferty also didnt get into it, think he is a little overrated anyway. lost a lot of possession today and struggled for the 60mins, as did mccoy.

Hard luck ogs and hats off to andy mallon and paul duffy for their powerhouse displays,a credit to the club!!

if you had have known that Ronan had a lung infection you maybe wouldn't have dismissed him so much. Any other time I would have bet the house on him. He has saved the Ogs many times over the years and he is a legend and nobody in the Ogs would say any different. As for what you said about Mc Coy, your talkin through your ass, he was brilliant.... It's looking good for the future and we can look back on a brilliant year for the club on and off the field!! Na Piarsaigh Óga abu!!!

Couldn't have said it better myself OgsHead, many a time Ronan has pulled the Ogs out a jail. Regarding Shorty not starting he hasn't trained properly all year afaik he's having serious trouble with his groin's. JP would have been a good help to the Ogs yesterday i think. Overall thought the defence played very well tried hard in Midfield and a few silly wides up front cost the Ogs, this experience will stand the boys in good stead for next year  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on November 09, 2009, 09:07:07 AM
Quote from: fan01 on November 08, 2009, 10:04:47 PM
hope ciaran is not badly injured he will be a big loss for armagh

i heard last night that he has just got a badly bruised ankle and is on crutches..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on November 09, 2009, 09:10:55 AM
Quote from: flog the lot on November 09, 2009, 09:07:07 AM
Quote from: fan01 on November 08, 2009, 10:04:47 PM
hope ciaran is not badly injured he will be a big loss for armagh

i heard last night that he has just got a badly bruised ankle and is on crutches..

so is the broken leg rumour i heard untrue?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on November 09, 2009, 10:03:01 AM
yea he is suppose to have damaged ligaments which i hear is worse than a break
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Paul123 on November 09, 2009, 10:40:59 AM
Bendover clearly you have no brains and have never played football before. I expect ur well ugly 2, besides from that I believe the ogs full bck line with Mallon,barton and McCoy wre very gd yedterday as they have been all yr. As for c rafferty he worked hard for 60 mins and shud have had a penalty. Bendover cud I say that u probs kiss boys 2!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 09, 2009, 11:09:17 AM
Have to say the ogs were a credit to the county yesterday and could have progressed, i felt the referee didnt give a clear penalty and also clarkie was continually being fouled especially in the first half.. Andy , Duff, Hughesy were immense. Unfortunately ronan, anto and davo had bad chest infections all week but they still put in great efforts. Hopefully the ogs can build on this season and with JP, a fit Shorty, and Padraig Duffy just transfered back and Gregory Loughran due back in the new year the squad will strengthened for next season. It was also good to see a number of boys from other clubs there cheering on the Ogs Well Done, as it should be!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 09, 2009, 11:20:50 AM
Quote from: Paul123 on November 09, 2009, 10:40:59 AM
Bendover clearly you have no brains and have never played football before. I expect ur well ugly 2, besides from that I believe the ogs full bck line with Mallon,barton and McCoy wre very gd yedterday as they have been all yr. As for c rafferty he worked hard for 60 mins and shud have had a penalty. Bendover cud I say that u probs kiss boys 2!

Nope never kicked a ball! depends who I'm standing beside (bound to better looking than you) and def not into boys now f**k off back to orchard county waster
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on November 09, 2009, 11:28:58 AM
Hard luck to the Ogs yesterday, would like to have seen them go to an ulster final, Paul Grimley probably relived he does not have to plan their downfall.

Just a query here and I don't know the whole story so I apologise for my ignorance in advance. I inquired to a St. Pats student about when the casement cup had been played as I was at the final last year and wanted to see this years. I was informed that the college was duly disqualified for failing to field a team for the final on a scheduled school holiday.  Apparently it was supposed to be on the Halloween break, but several of their players who had been part of the successful All-Ireland winning minor team had booked holidays away.  I have heard that the ulster council put it to the other school that they could play the final or take the cup, and in the spirit of school hurling they accepted the cup.

Can anyone shed any light on this situation, seems a bit harsh on the young lads, I know I would not be happy with such a hollow victory.

Getting a bit of abuse there rooney
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 09, 2009, 11:51:06 AM
Bendover don't pay any attention to the little school boy he,s just like Kaaat no brains and no football knowledge. He should go back to the school boy board and stay off this one.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 09, 2009, 12:08:15 PM
it would seem so Petey - just no knowing what these amateurs will come out with next  ??? ???

Bit harsh on the school there
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 09, 2009, 12:33:05 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on November 09, 2009, 11:28:58 AM

Getting a bit of abuse there rooney

I wouldn't worry about some 14 year old who first post is pure abuse.  He's obviously not a Pearse Ogs man either.

Unlucky for the lads yesterday.  What makes it harder to take is that the game was there for the taking.  It's been a good season all the same  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 09, 2009, 01:00:25 PM
Just on a point of interest yesterday, i see none of the county board management attended the Ogs game to offer support to the county champions. Typical of the set-up we have, fair play to the county sponsor Hugh Morgan for attending. It also showed bad taste to put on the Lurgan area charity match at the same time as the ogs game surely it could have been played on saturday or some evening. Bad Show.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 09, 2009, 01:33:52 PM
What's the penalty decision a few have been referring to?  Chris Rafferty's?  If so, bowsie.  Never was a pen.  Ref gave a few ropey decisions alrite, but that was never a penalty, Rafferty just run out of ground and options.

A defintie opportunity missed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 09, 2009, 02:17:23 PM
what about the decision when maguire was pulled down at the end, the full-back had his arms right round him and pulled him over the end line onto the ground as the ball was kicked in. thats what i was referin too, i seen it this mornin again on the dvd of the match. but as u said ben we left it behind but onwards and upwards hopefully
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on November 09, 2009, 02:44:36 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 09, 2009, 01:00:25 PM
Just on a point of interest yesterday, i see none of the county board management attended the Ogs game to offer support to the county champions. Typical of the set-up we have, fair play to the county sponsor Hugh Morgan for attending. It also showed bad taste to put on the Lurgan area charity match at the same time as the ogs game surely it could have been played on saturday or some evening. Bad Show.
bit harsh,
POR was at the lurgan charity game  which had potentially the pick of the region playing, I would also assume Donal Murtagh would be well versed in the pros and cons of the OGs team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 09, 2009, 03:40:29 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 09, 2009, 01:00:25 PM
Just on a point of interest yesterday, i see none of the county board management attended the Ogs game to offer support to the county champions. Typical of the set-up we have, fair play to the county sponsor Hugh Morgan for attending. It also showed bad taste to put on the Lurgan area charity match at the same time as the ogs game surely it could have been played on saturday or some evening. Bad Show.

I agree 100% there should be nothing else on when there is a club going forward representing our county. The county leagues and championships have been well over this past few weeks and there was plenty of time to get fixtures like a town versus county game played. It could even have been played under flood lights during the week and the crowds would probably have been bigger. Staging this game at the same time as the Og's game served no one really it effectively meant that anyone looking to take in both games couldn't.

I never actually made it to the game but i certainly wanted them to win. However with all the hype i had heard about St Gall's and the performances to date of the og's (which in my opinion where not great apart from the cross game) i thought St Gall's would have won by an easy enough margin. However from all accounts they gave a good show and fair play till them it was never going to be easy to step into the boots of the Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 10, 2009, 06:39:21 AM
Quote from: naka on November 09, 2009, 02:44:36 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 09, 2009, 01:00:25 PM
Just on a point of interest yesterday, i see none of the county board management attended the Ogs game to offer support to the county champions. Typical of the set-up we have, fair play to the county sponsor Hugh Morgan for attending. It also showed bad taste to put on the Lurgan area charity match at the same time as the ogs game surely it could have been played on saturday or some evening. Bad Show.
bit harsh,
POR was at the lurgan charity game  which had potentially the pick of the region playing, I would also assume Donal Murtagh would be well versed in the pros and cons of the OGs team


Donal would know more about a veda loaf!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 10, 2009, 11:22:03 AM
Thanks Win but i was refering to the county board officals not attending ie the county management not the county managers. And you are correct in that no other games should have taken place at the same time as the Ogs game, but i can understand why POR and his team attended the Lurgan charity game. He will already know which Ogs players he will be trying out.
Title: 1-20
Post by: drici on November 10, 2009, 01:36:22 PM
Planetarium wins the 1-20 at Sedgefield by 6 lengths.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on November 10, 2009, 05:02:38 PM
This 123 character will not last long, he is a complete muppet and would be best ignored from now o Tube.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on November 10, 2009, 05:10:07 PM
That game would have meant a lot to Ronan Clarke and the criticism he got from a poster earlier was rough and uncalled for. Clarke loves the Ogs and has been one of their best ever players.

The Ogs will have learned a lot and will now know they can play with anyone in Ulster, they will be hungry to repeat as Armagh champions and Clarke will have a big say in that, no player can be at his best every time out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 10, 2009, 05:29:36 PM
Well said Stew, he was very sick up until saturday and to put in the performance he did was nothing but heroic. A lot of other players would have cried off but not Ronan. Thats why he,s one of the best players in Ireland and received the medals and all-stars to date. how,s the big smoke over there. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shazam on November 10, 2009, 08:13:54 PM
Anywan got a report from the town v country game. Maybe charlie stubbs could find one for us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: killarm on November 10, 2009, 08:38:40 PM
Any managerial moves?
I take it the ogs are staying with their manager -  what do you think wanderer.
Harps new management will be interesting but heard whimpers of benny o k taking the reins.
Have cross confirmed their manager yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 10, 2009, 09:14:49 PM
Quote from: Shazam on November 10, 2009, 08:13:54 PM
Anywan got a report from the town v country game. Maybe charlie stubbs could find one for us.

was at the ogs game shazam
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 10, 2009, 09:23:05 PM
hard luck to the ogs on sun.  competed gallantly will st galls and unfortunate that 4 once clarke appeared to pick wrong option.  would agree with a few posters clarke is one of ogs greatest players ever and the fact that he wasnt well in the week approaching game is a credit to himelf and how much the club means to him. 
scored a fantastic point in the 1st half also.  thought anto duffy was quite quiet though have been very impressed with him this year.  mallon and paul duffy very good.  think duffy should get a run in league/mckenna cup in half back line.  some very good options there duffy,ak,dyas,moriarty, shannon. 

thought £10 in was a little excessive.  was also stuck beside some wild annoying ogs supporters had move at halftime.one man literally shouted in my ear the whole first half.  2 other men in their 40s/50s were blocked beside me talking crap whole game and one kept standing up wasnt even watching game.  suppose every club has them though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on November 10, 2009, 09:27:01 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on November 10, 2009, 09:23:05 PM
hard luck to the ogs on sun.  competed gallantly will st galls and unfortunate that 4 once clarke appeared to pick wrong option.  would agree with a few posters clarke is one of ogs greatest players ever and the fact that he wasnt well in the week approaching game is a credit to himelf and how much the club means to him. 
scored a fantastic point in the 1st half also.  thought anto duffy was quite quiet though have been very impressed with him this year.  mallon and paul duffy very good.  think duffy should get a run in league/mckenna cup in half back line.  some very good options there duffy,ak,dyas,moriarty, shannon. 

thought £10 in was a little excessive.  was also stuck beside some wild annoying ogs supporters had move at halftime.one man literally shouted in my ear the whole first half.  2 other men in their 40s/50s were blocked beside me talking crap whole game and one kept standing up wasnt even watching game.  suppose every club has them though

So your the one who moved away from me at half time  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 10, 2009, 09:39:42 PM
couldnt put up with your constant rambling ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 11, 2009, 10:01:10 AM
Feelings must be mutual Charlie, ps its even worse to stand beside some silly supporters as u normally would at ur games. ;) Just so that u also know Anto was sufferin from the flu on sun and this affected his normal high tempo performance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 11, 2009, 03:31:46 PM
were abouts were your sitting on sunday wanderer, never seen you there
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 11, 2009, 03:37:41 PM
umgola i must be fitter than you, i was standing down below after i decided to move down from the stand, couldnt listen any more to Gods Corner the Pipe etc. You were lookin in good shape yourself and i see you made the Gazette today nice touch with the trainin tops. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 11, 2009, 04:04:18 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 11, 2009, 03:37:41 PM
umgola i must be fitter than you,
that would be no big achievement  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Erwin Rommel on November 11, 2009, 07:27:30 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 09, 2009, 01:00:25 PM
Just on a point of interest yesterday, i see none of the county board management attended the Ogs game to offer support to the county champions. Typical of the set-up we have, fair play to the county sponsor Hugh Morgan for attending. It also showed bad taste to put on the Lurgan area charity match at the same time as the ogs game surely it could have been played on saturday or some evening. Bad Show.

:D

ITNOF!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 12, 2009, 12:02:41 AM
Quote from: naka on November 09, 2009, 02:44:36 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 09, 2009, 01:00:25 PM
Just on a point of interest yesterday, i see none of the county board management attended the Ogs game to offer support to the county champions. Typical of the set-up we have, fair play to the county sponsor Hugh Morgan for attending. It also showed bad taste to put on the Lurgan area charity match at the same time as the ogs game surely it could have been played on saturday or some evening. Bad Show.
bit harsh,
POR was at the lurgan charity game  which had potentially the pick of the region playing, I would also assume Donal Murtagh would be well versed in the pros and cons of the OGs team
that is a bit harsh. everyone already knows ogs' main players, hard luck though. clans to win the SFC in 2010!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 12, 2009, 09:14:23 AM
Fitz look at my previous reply i was talkin about the Armagh Co Board not management which includes probually the biggest muppet ever from your own club. bet ur glad he,s away ( coco the clown). Look forward to seein yous next year.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on November 12, 2009, 04:12:21 PM
any reports how armaghs ciaran mc keever is progressing with his ankle ligament  damage
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 12, 2009, 04:56:43 PM
heard he is not just as bad as first thought. hopefully that is the case
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goldenyears on November 13, 2009, 12:26:30 PM
tony mac the new cross manager???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on November 13, 2009, 12:29:26 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on November 13, 2009, 12:26:30 PM
tony mac the new cross manager???

see here GY!

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=13844.45 (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=13844.45)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on November 13, 2009, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on November 13, 2009, 12:26:30 PM
tony mac the new cross manager???

Crossmaglen will win the Armagh SFC in 2010 with Tony McEntee at the helm - a proven winner.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rudigar on November 13, 2009, 01:11:17 PM
Quote from: Carbery on November 13, 2009, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on November 13, 2009, 12:26:30 PM
tony mac the new cross manager???

Crossmaglen will win the Armagh SFC in 2010 with Tony McEntee at the helm - a proven winner.

Nonsense, impossible to say. I would bet a good dollar that he'll be a classy manager, but playing success guarantees nothing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on November 13, 2009, 01:27:37 PM
Ok someone may as well start it, Championship predictions for 2010:

Senior:-
Winners: Cross
Runners-up: Granemore

Intermediate:-
Winners: Culloville
Runners-up: Madden

Junior:-
Winners: Tullysarron
Runners-up: Forkhill

And before someone states the obvious I know it all depends on the draw as to who the finalists willl be.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 13, 2009, 02:52:58 PM
peedictions: 2010

Senior      Pearse OGs ( 2009 champs )
              D- tee    r/up

intermediate

              Sarsfield
              Culloville  r/up

Junior

             ( Harps hehe)  Beleek
                                Tullysarren r/up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 13, 2009, 02:57:47 PM
now dont be goin mad Kaaat and the rest of my Harps friends, it was just a little joke. But if the regrading of the championships goes ahead as suggested by some clubs only teams in the 1st Div can play senior 2nd Div intermediate and 3rd Div junior, some sweating next year for league positions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 13, 2009, 06:15:33 PM
Quote from: Carbery on November 13, 2009, 01:06:06 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on November 13, 2009, 12:26:30 PM
tony mac the new cross manager???

Crossmaglen will win the Armagh SFC in 2010 with Tony McEntee at the helm - a proven winner.



Yeah as a player! Different job being a manager. Think they would have a better chance with him in the team rather than on the bench.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on November 13, 2009, 10:58:52 PM
Was Martin Califf offered the Cross job?  Did the Cross committee give him first refusal? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on November 14, 2009, 07:00:18 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on November 13, 2009, 12:26:30 PM
tony mac the new cross manager???

ah well, an here I thought the Harps would be capable of winning the co championship within the next three years.


I think Mcentee will be a tremendous asset to cross and he is a sure fire Armagh manager who will do serious damage. he was a stud as a player and he will be a stud as a manager and good luck to him, he is a hero of mine. Crossmaglen, yet again you have chosen well. Prediction. McEntee will win the county next year and an AI in three years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 14, 2009, 07:07:47 PM
Quote from: stew on November 14, 2009, 07:00:18 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on November 13, 2009, 12:26:30 PM
tony mac the new cross manager???

ah well, an here I thought the Harps would be capable of winning the co championship within the next three years.


I think Mcentee will be a tremendous asset to cross and he is a sure fire Armagh manager who will do serious damage. he was a stud as a player and he will be a stud as a manager and good luck to him, he is a hero of mine. Crossmaglen, yet again you have chosen well. Prediction. McEntee will win the county next year and an AI in three years.

We're fucked now with that kiss of death :P  It will be interesting to see how Tony adjusts to the tracksuit.  The one good thing is that in Gareth O'Neill he has a very shrewd and able assistant.  He knows more about the game than most and is a great reader of the flow of a game.  It wouldn't surprise me to show Tony around the middle of the field by August of next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on November 14, 2009, 11:48:59 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 14, 2009, 07:07:47 PM
Quote from: stew on November 14, 2009, 07:00:18 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on November 13, 2009, 12:26:30 PM
tony mac the new cross manager???

ah well, an here I thought the Harps would be capable of winning the co championship within the next three years.


I think Mcentee will be a tremendous asset to cross and he is a sure fire Armagh manager who will do serious damage. he was a stud as a player and he will be a stud as a manager and good luck to him, he is a hero of mine. Crossmaglen, yet again you have chosen well. Prediction. McEntee will win the county next year and an AI in three years.

We're fucked now with that kiss of death :P  It will be interesting to see how Tony adjusts to the tracksuit.  The one good thing is that in Gareth O'Neill he has a very shrewd and able assistant.  He knows more about the game than most and is a great reader of the flow of a game.  It wouldn't surprise me to show Tony around the middle of the field by August of next year.

BCB1 - was Caly considered?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 15, 2009, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: Skiddybadoo on November 14, 2009, 11:48:59 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 14, 2009, 07:07:47 PM
Quote from: stew on November 14, 2009, 07:00:18 PM
Quote from: goldenyears on November 13, 2009, 12:26:30 PM
tony mac the new cross manager???

ah well, an here I thought the Harps would be capable of winning the co championship within the next three years.


I think Mcentee will be a tremendous asset to cross and he is a sure fire Armagh manager who will do serious damage. he was a stud as a player and he will be a stud as a manager and good luck to him, he is a hero of mine. Crossmaglen, yet again you have chosen well. Prediction. McEntee will win the county next year and an AI in three years.

We're fucked now with that kiss of death :P  It will be interesting to see how Tony adjusts to the tracksuit.  The one good thing is that in Gareth O'Neill he has a very shrewd and able assistant.  He knows more about the game than most and is a great reader of the flow of a game.  It wouldn't surprise me to show Tony around the middle of the field by August of next year.

BCB1 - was Caly considered?

I would doubt he put his name forward, very much a number 2, don't think he would be number 1 type.  Tony, gareth and Jim were the names mentioned from the very start so I doubt if there were any other candidates.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on November 15, 2009, 11:37:59 AM
senior..cross.ru maghery :P

inter`...cullaville..ru sarsfields

junior...eire og .ru killean ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 15, 2009, 03:32:32 PM
Under 21 Championship

Cross 1-15 Cullyhanna 1-6.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on November 15, 2009, 05:02:07 PM
cruppen won by 17 points
should be a good final cruppen and cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on November 15, 2009, 06:51:43 PM
i see orchard county.com is SUSPENDED , does anyone know why ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on November 15, 2009, 09:57:45 PM
Quote from: torres on November 15, 2009, 06:51:43 PM
i see orchard county.com is SUSPENDED , does anyone know why ?

No!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on November 15, 2009, 10:33:31 PM
Quote from: Carbery on November 15, 2009, 09:57:45 PM
Quote from: torres on November 15, 2009, 06:51:43 PM
i see orchard county.com is SUSPENDED , does anyone know why ?

No!
he suspended it due to the actions of a few posters .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on November 15, 2009, 11:26:09 PM
Does anyone know what was said?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on November 15, 2009, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: ogshead on November 15, 2009, 11:26:09 PM
Does anyone know what was said?
before it went of a few were trying to find out from a fellow poster as too who he heard was on a panel of 35 for the mc kenna cup ,and a few had mentioned players they heard had been picked , thats all i can think it could be .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on November 15, 2009, 11:42:14 PM
Quote from: torres on November 15, 2009, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: ogshead on November 15, 2009, 11:26:09 PM
Does anyone know what was said?
before it went of a few were trying to find out from a fellow poster as too who he heard was on a panel of 35 for the mc kenna cup ,and a few had mentioned players they heard had been picked , thats all i can think it could be .

Nah, it was all the tubes on the thread about next year's minors constantly slagging boys off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 16, 2009, 09:26:36 AM
its a childish board anyway most are still at school.  It shows in relation to the ogs / galls game how big a missed opportunity it was by the ogs who would have certainly beaten clontibret on yesterdays showing. ah well theres always a next time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on November 16, 2009, 10:07:35 AM
its good for getting all the club fixtures and results though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 16, 2009, 10:31:03 AM
make centre half an honorary member of this thread then. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 16, 2009, 01:22:59 PM
It is good for fixtures and results and should therefore be kept open without a message board. Clearly some of the ones using it are too childish and the lad running it is risking a lot for providing a good service for the GAA community. shame on them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on November 16, 2009, 01:33:32 PM
Quote from: torres on November 15, 2009, 11:33:40 PM
Quote from: ogshead on November 15, 2009, 11:26:09 PM
Does anyone know what was said?
before it went of a few were trying to find out from a fellow poster as too who he heard was on a panel of 35 for the mc kenna cup ,and a few had mentioned players they heard had been picked , thats all i can think it could be .

in saying that i have heard of a few of the boys on this 35 man panel. im told its a fi nal panel with no one else being added on. its the armagh panel for 2010. anyone know when its going to be released i full?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 16, 2009, 02:08:58 PM
a meetin was held in armagh last week with the panel, a few noticeable absentees but i also know of a few who declined an invite due to past experience due to lack of football and also for other commitments. Wait and see and dont go too much on the mc kenna cup. I also have been told that the door will be open especially to a few who will be with the u21 panel intially
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 16, 2009, 11:16:23 PM
anyone in the know care to name a few players?? :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 08:57:46 AM
wait and see the official list which will be released shortly ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rattle-the-net on November 17, 2009, 10:34:45 AM
Cross v Cruppen u21 Final athletic grounds @ 2.30pm Sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghpat on November 17, 2009, 04:52:33 PM
Anyone know what happened Orchard county??
Thought i'd join this instead.

Anyone know the panel?? Apparently 11 or 12 of last years panel have been dropped. I know two and still can't make any sense of what the hells going on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 06:16:57 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 17, 2009, 08:57:46 AM
wait and see the official list which will be released shortly ;)
wait and my new man
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on November 17, 2009, 06:39:46 PM
QuoteAnyone know the panel?? Apparently 11 or 12 of last years panel have been dropped. I know two and still can't make any sense of what the hells going on.

Dropped from last year's championship panel? From last year's McKenna cup panel? Some decent players might be playing for universities this time and so not in the McKenna cup setup.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghpat on November 17, 2009, 07:17:40 PM
Championship panel. And neither boys play college football and neither injured.

Going to be alot of faces made. And alot of people wanting answers!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on November 17, 2009, 07:22:42 PM
here its a very young step up arite!

is orchardcounty gone for good then lads?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on November 17, 2009, 07:31:42 PM
was talking to one of the lads on the panel and its just the mckenna cup panel and thats it really.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on November 17, 2009, 07:37:23 PM
Paul mcgrane named as the new manager of eglish in tyrone .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on November 17, 2009, 10:43:33 PM

Not a chance
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 18, 2009, 01:03:43 AM
IF this is the case then it only further makes our county a farce. Another prolific face within Armagh GAA ploughing the trade in another county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 18, 2009, 08:46:45 AM
Let the manager pick the panel thats his job. In my opion and most peoples a clear out of at least 10 was due :-X
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 18, 2009, 09:23:07 AM
I heard there are no dromintee O Rourkes included
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Yes I Would on November 18, 2009, 09:33:02 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on November 18, 2009, 09:23:07 AM
I heard there are no dromintee O Rourkes included

I hope Corn02 is ok!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 18, 2009, 09:45:15 AM
Its ok corn is included ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 18, 2009, 09:46:25 AM
Quote from: Yes I Would on November 18, 2009, 09:33:02 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on November 18, 2009, 09:23:07 AM
I heard there are no dromintee O Rourkes included

I hope Corn02 is ok!!

He emigrated after Granemore beat Dromintee. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 18, 2009, 01:00:25 PM
Don't be silly he is rebuilding for next season so as Dromintee can come out and dominate Armagh football like they have been telling us they would do for years lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on November 18, 2009, 01:48:45 PM

Very few of last year's panel ommitted accoring to my info. One of the 2 o'rourkes on the panel... youngest one not included. fair few returners like mackin, austin, swift, mccone, etc. no minors from last year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghpat on November 18, 2009, 02:18:59 PM
Heard kevin orourke and stephen kernan also dropped. Apparantly Kor too small for county football, After starting against Tyrone last year? Few new cross faces too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on November 18, 2009, 03:38:43 PM
any cruppney boys involved
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 18, 2009, 05:19:07 PM
Glad to see Mc Cone getting another shot, he didnt get a proper go with Mc Donnell.

he has been scoring for fun in the trials,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: killarm on November 18, 2009, 07:13:36 PM
Wanderer - how many ogs men on the new panel and who?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on November 18, 2009, 07:26:00 PM
Can we get a list of the new panel?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: camloughlad on November 18, 2009, 07:58:56 PM
cant belive kor is dropped.

wat  do yas think of cruppens chances of a 3 in a row in the u21
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 18, 2009, 09:39:58 PM
Quote from: camloughlad on November 18, 2009, 07:58:56 PM
cant belive kor is dropped.

wat  do yas think of cruppens chances of a 3 in a row in the u21
cross will stuff them. KOR poor attitude from what i hear
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghpat on November 18, 2009, 10:38:22 PM
Fitzroyalty, it was one of the Senior members of the panel telling me about him being dropped and apparently they cant make any sense of it either as his attitude and work rate was brilliant last year if it had of been otherwise doubt he would have started ahead of the rest. I asked if he'd a bad attitude and was told def not. Im still trying to work it out for myself because I really like him as a player. So have to disagree with ya there. A Size issue was what P Orourke told him. 

Has P.McGrane been confirmed as manager of Eglish?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on November 19, 2009, 07:58:47 AM
Quote from: armaghpat on November 18, 2009, 10:38:22 PM
Has P.McGrane been confirmed as manager of Eglish?

Tried to get confirmation of this myself. By all accounts he was expected to play again next year...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on November 19, 2009, 11:25:48 AM
heard that there are only 4 ogs boys on it. mallon, clarke, duffy and parkinson. bit of a joke if you ask me! interesting to see how many cross boys are on it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 19, 2009, 11:29:14 AM
Quote from: davo on November 19, 2009, 11:25:48 AM
heard that there are only 4 ogs boys on it. mallon, clarke, duffy and parkinson. bit of a joke if you ask me! interesting to see how many cross boys are on it.

Who else are you suggesting Davo?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 19, 2009, 12:45:09 PM
Davo and oinion, Anto Duffy will be joining the panel after the u21 cship also JJ is in por plans when he returns from uni in england after xmas. cross players ph,ak,pk,tk,mmcn,dmck  :-X
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: killarm on November 19, 2009, 01:00:20 PM
How do you know this wanderer - are you in the know?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 19, 2009, 01:48:07 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 19, 2009, 12:45:09 PM
Davo and oinion, Anto Duffy will be joining the panel after the u21 cship also JJ is in por plans when he returns from uni in england after xmas. cross players ph,ak,pk,tk,mmcn,dmck  :-X

Anto has no desire to join up with the county just yet, he has 2 more years u21 and seems happy enough in the knowledge that he'll get game time there. Sitting on the bench for the seniors is of no benefit to him or the Ogs, pauric duffy and Loughie are prime examples
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on November 19, 2009, 02:12:08 PM
Quote from: BenDover on November 19, 2009, 01:48:07 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 19, 2009, 12:45:09 PM
Davo and oinion, Anto Duffy will be joining the panel after the u21 cship also JJ is in por plans when he returns from uni in england after xmas. cross players ph,ak,pk,tk,mmcn,dmck  :-X

Anto has no desire to join up with the county just yet, he has 2 more years u21 and seems happy enough in the knowledge that he'll get game time there. Sitting on the bench for the seniors is of no benefit to him or the Ogs, pauric duffy and Loughie are prime examples

Do him no harm being involved untill the club football starts up...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 19, 2009, 03:51:33 PM
stalking the new management, and havin spys in the hotel :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 19, 2009, 05:43:23 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on November 19, 2009, 02:12:08 PM
Quote from: BenDover on November 19, 2009, 01:48:07 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 19, 2009, 12:45:09 PM
Davo and oinion, Anto Duffy will be joining the panel after the u21 cship also JJ is in por plans when he returns from uni in england after xmas. cross players ph,ak,pk,tk,mmcn,dmck  :-X

Anto has no desire to join up with the county just yet, he has 2 more years u21 and seems happy enough in the knowledge that he'll get game time there. Sitting on the bench for the seniors is of no benefit to him or the Ogs, pauric duffy and Loughie are prime examples

Do him no harm being involved untill the club football starts up...
Anto's 100% correct to be cautious.  Even at club level you can see young lads being threw in too early and it hampers them longterm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 19, 2009, 06:18:28 PM
Quote from: armaghpat on November 18, 2009, 10:38:22 PM
Fitzroyalty, it was one of the Senior members of the panel telling me about him being dropped and apparently they cant make any sense of it either as his attitude and work rate was brilliant last year if it had of been otherwise doubt he would have started ahead of the rest. I asked if he'd a bad attitude and was told def not. Im still trying to work it out for myself because I really like him as a player. So have to disagree with ya there. A Size issue was what P Orourke told him. 

Has P.McGrane been confirmed as manager of Eglish?
I stand corrected, I was told last year his attitude wasn't great and then heard the same again this time with his club around the time of the tail end of the IFC ...

Interesting to see parkinson has been rewarded with a place in the squad, fair play he's had some brilliant performances this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 20, 2009, 02:22:49 AM
Quote from: armaghpat on November 18, 2009, 10:38:22 PM
Fitzroyalty, it was one of the Senior members of the panel telling me about him being dropped and apparently they cant make any sense of it either as his attitude and work rate was brilliant last year if it had of been otherwise doubt he would have started ahead of the rest. I asked if he'd a bad attitude and was told def not. Im still trying to work it out for myself because I really like him as a player. So have to disagree with ya there. A Size issue was what P Orourke told him. 

Has P.McGrane been confirmed as manager of Eglish?

Has anybody got a full list of the squad yet?

Dropping anybody due to size is farcical. If you're good enough, you're big enough. Kevin O'Rourke is good enough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 20, 2009, 02:41:27 AM
But is he big enough ;)


I agree Tac it is a load of shite. Peter the great being a fine example all sizes bring different aspects to the game and we should be encouraging this not giving it as reasons for being out of a panel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 20, 2009, 08:10:18 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on November 19, 2009, 02:12:08 PM
Quote from: BenDover on November 19, 2009, 01:48:07 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 19, 2009, 12:45:09 PM
Davo and oinion, Anto Duffy will be joining the panel after the u21 cship also JJ is in por plans when he returns from uni in england after xmas. cross players ph,ak,pk,tk,mmcn,dmck  :-X

Anto has no desire to join up with the county just yet, he has 2 more years u21 and seems happy enough in the knowledge that he'll get game time there. Sitting on the bench for the seniors is of no benefit to him or the Ogs, pauric duffy and Loughie are prime examples
Do him no harm being involved untill the club football starts up...

with the club preseason due to start the end of jan i'd say give him the fitness/weights programmes to do but leave him to play club and U21
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 20, 2009, 09:04:23 AM
Kevin o rourke was very poor in the intermediate championship for st micks, seen por at two of the matches he was involved in. he was also not impressive for armagh last year but then again who was. Lets wait and see as the new management deserve the right to select new blood and retain those who they think are best for armagh. In relation to kor whom no doubt donal would have had a say on, would he get his place in the cross forward line? never mind armagh, i would take with a pinch of salt the notion of sayin he is too small, what about some players of similar size who have been selected.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on November 20, 2009, 09:16:25 AM
Wanderer... any chance of you posting the squad so we can give our opinion????  ;D

I seen Kevin twice for Netown last year. First game in Ballyhegan he played centre forward, hardly got a kick.

2nd game he played in the full forward line, he was super! Scored one of the best points i ever seen from almost the touch line... wrong side for a right footer. He couldn't miss that day!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 20, 2009, 11:28:15 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 19, 2009, 12:45:09 PM
Davo and oinion, Anto Duffy will be joining the panel after the u21 cship also JJ is in por plans when he returns from uni in england after xmas. cross players ph,ak,pk,tk,mmcn,dmck  :-X

What about Ciaran Mc Kinney,  is he not interested, i always thought and still do that he is the best keeper in the county
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Grubber on November 20, 2009, 01:19:20 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 19, 2009, 06:18:28 PM
Interesting to see parkinson has been rewarded with a place in the squad, fair play he's had some brilliant performances this year.

Is that the big Ogs lad? Only seem him once this year and he wasn't in the game much but have heard good things about him from people who've played against him. Anyone any info on him - what age is he, played college football?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on November 20, 2009, 02:58:40 PM
Don't think Ciaran McKinney is interested in a return, with regards to DD he's 23 and i think he played for St Pat's but the team wasn't up to much then
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 20, 2009, 04:36:24 PM
Darnel Parkinson was on the armagh u21 squad in 06/07. He is a fantastic athlete and has come on leaps and bounds this year as he spent last summer 08 in san Francisco. his attitude towards training is second to none, hopefully should be a good addition to armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on November 20, 2009, 10:42:40 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 18, 2009, 09:46:25 AM
Quote from: Yes I Would on November 18, 2009, 09:33:02 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on November 18, 2009, 09:23:07 AM
I heard there are no dromintee O Rourkes included

I hope Corn02 is ok!!

He emigrated after Granemore beat Dromintee. ;D
CORN02 is now a moderator on OC .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 21, 2009, 12:00:09 AM
He's not doing too much moderating at the minute
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Grubber on November 21, 2009, 12:07:55 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 20, 2009, 04:36:24 PM
Darnel Parkinson was on the armagh u21 squad in 06/07. He is a fantastic athlete and has come on leaps and bounds this year as he spent last summer 08 in san Francisco. his attitude towards training is second to none, hopefully should be a good addition to armagh.

Looking forward to him making his mark. I hear he had the Dromore boys under pressure in a friendly last month.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 21, 2009, 03:02:26 AM
Is Parkinson a local lad???  How lomg has he played for the og's because he has never stood out when i have played against them or watch them so can't understand how he suddenly burst on the scene as county standard
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 21, 2009, 12:41:54 PM
Yes he's played for the Ogs since underage

Quote from: winsamsoon on November 21, 2009, 03:02:26 AM
Is Parkinson a local lad???  How lomg has he played for the og's because he has never stood out when i have played against them or watch them so can't understand how he suddenly burst on the scene as county standard
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on November 21, 2009, 06:05:47 PM
Nothing against the lad at all, but I dont think Parkinson is even close to being inter-county standard.  I know that Cross management were impressed with him in the recent semi final and Donal has prob suggested having a closer look at him.  However, when the Ogs played Ulster before the county final he looked completely out of his depth.  Best of luck, I hope he proves me wrong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 21, 2009, 08:18:29 PM
Is the under 21 final going ahead in the Athletic Grounds tomorrow.
I heard rumours it might be switched.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on November 21, 2009, 08:28:11 PM
U-21 Final has beem moved to Killeavy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 21, 2009, 09:13:15 PM
Thanks SB
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ACFfoxy on November 21, 2009, 10:11:29 PM
Quote from: gander on November 16, 2009, 10:07:35 AM
its good for getting all the club fixtures and results though

check out armaghgaa.info for all that mate.  No bullshite on it from kids and has up to date results.  Early days on the forum but i spoke with the owner briefly when i met him to get my prize i won on the forum and he seems to be a decent fella who is putting a lot of effort into the forum.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 22, 2009, 11:06:26 AM
Too soon for Parkinson, he may make it but I severly doubt he's ready yet.  A fella that's been playing B football this year as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on November 22, 2009, 05:36:38 PM
he was only playing B Championship this year because he was out of the country last year and didn't play Senior Championship last year. He was named in the first 15 at the start of the year and so didn't play any B football in the league. he's a good athlete with a great attitude towards the game. no reason he couldn't make it. anyone that was at the quarter final against cross would have seen him take one of armagh footballs all-time greats Oisin McConville to the cleaners.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on November 22, 2009, 06:25:08 PM
Quote from: pearseog on November 22, 2009, 05:36:38 PM
he was only playing B Championship this year because he was out of the country last year and didn't play Senior Championship last year. He was named in the first 15 at the start of the year and so didn't play any B football in the league. he's a good athlete with a great attitude towards the game. no reason he couldn't make it. anyone that was at the quarter final against cross would have seen him take one of armagh footballs all-time greats Oisin McConville to the cleaners.
he,s a good athlelte all right as he also plays soccer for the local redstar team in the mid ulster league , he could be one for the future but time will tell , i would,nt read  too much into taking [ oisin to the cleaners b] as he is not the player he was  a few years ago .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 22, 2009, 06:42:18 PM
He wouldn't be on the same field as a McConville of 10 yrs ago.  He's a decent footballer and could make it in time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 22, 2009, 07:03:11 PM
Even 5 years there Benny Mc Conville was a class act as was Jim the older little brother
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 22, 2009, 07:07:12 PM
how u21 final go?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 22, 2009, 07:08:26 PM
ne1 any word on the manager merry go round 4 next year?

heard peter rafferty taking tullysaran. 

miceal magill resigned from tones last week. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on November 22, 2009, 07:21:38 PM
Cross won the U-21 championship.  20 pts to 10 I think was the final score.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 22, 2009, 07:56:42 PM
Is Benny O'Kane the new Harps manager?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 22, 2009, 10:36:35 PM
Is this o'Kane lad not a headcase
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: john mcgill on November 23, 2009, 06:26:43 AM
Winsamsoon It might be the brother that you are thinking of
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 23, 2009, 11:50:12 AM
No its benny ok. Big row in the camp as the previous managers dynes, grimley with help from john morrison where rejected as the incoming management team. Benny was with armagh last year as coach but u know the feedback there!! Surprised the harps didnt want to retain the men who pulled them out of a hole at the end the season. Big fallout from some members over the appointment. interestingly i heard of 2 other men who were approached, one a former manager who rejected the approach. ps it wasnt nuddie
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 23, 2009, 12:31:02 PM
It's a big kick in the teeth for Dynsey and Grimley after the great salvation job they done in the wake of the mess that Nuddie left the place in. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: judas1 on November 23, 2009, 02:03:40 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 23, 2009, 11:50:12 AM
No its benny ok. Big row in the camp as the previous managers dynes, grimley with help from john morrison where rejected as the incoming management team. Benny was with armagh last year as coach but u know the feedback there!! Surprised the harps didnt want to retain the men who pulled them out of a hole at the end the season. Big fallout from some members over the appointment. interestingly i heard of 2 other men who were approached, one a former manager who rejected the approach. ps it wasnt nuddie
you must be in the know wanderer ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 23, 2009, 02:15:04 PM
ur man got in then Judas, ps im always in the know  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on November 23, 2009, 02:38:06 PM
totally shocked that dynes and grimley were not given that job. thought they done well last year. did they apply for the post? any reasons why they were not given it? very strange
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on November 23, 2009, 02:51:50 PM
Anyone at the u21 final offer a bit of a report on it.
Cross must have been all over them would i be right in saying I heard there was 15 in it at one stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 23, 2009, 03:05:01 PM
Think it was to be expected, this cross team was the minor champs from 2006 when they beat the ogs in the final. Cross had to get a title this year or they would have been very disappointed. County Dinner this Friday night, Pearse Ogs got club of the year and Clarkie Div1 player of the year. Does anyone else know the other divisional player of the years?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 23, 2009, 03:54:23 PM
If Cross didn't win the U 21'sthis year it would have been the first year since 1991 I think that there wasn't either a minor, U 21, B or senior title in Cross.  At least there is a small bit of hope for the future and maybe we can crawl our way back to the top :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 23, 2009, 03:57:42 PM
Get off your knees brokencrossbar ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on November 23, 2009, 05:11:07 PM
O'Rourke not expecting further retirements

New Armagh manager Paddy O'Rourke is confident that the Orchard County won't suffer any further retirements ahead of the new season.

Aidan O'Rourke announced his inter-county retirement in September, following in the footsteps of Paul McGrane and Francie Bellew who bowed out on the eve of last summer's championship.

There had been speculation that Enda McNulty, Paul Hearty and even Steven McDonnell were considering their futures, but O'Rourke expects them to be available for selection in 2010.

"Nobody other than Aidan has decided to retire, it's just him," the Down man said.

O'Rourke is expected to be without injured team captain Kieran McKeever as well as Martin O'Rourke and Stephen Kernan for the McKenna Cup campaign in January.


Can anyone clarify the 35 man panel named recently? I've heard a few names that were dropped but wouldn't like to speculate until I have heard it confirmed from a reliable source.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 24, 2009, 12:23:40 AM
Enda Mc Nulty needs to go and make way for the younger fitter lads that undoubtedly exist in the county he is taking the place of a lad with potential and should really be told if he hasn't got the gaul to go himself. Why does new managers come into county squads and keep loyalty with guys like this. For the life of me i cannot understand it. If Armagh are to move forward they have to have someone at the helm that is ruthless.

Steven Mc Donnell needs to train very hard for at least two months, from what i seen of him last year he had lost a lot of pace and in some games looked very uninterestested. Whether it was fitness or he just knew the team wasn't going to go very far and wasn't too concerned (if so this was stinking attitude) I am willing to give Mc Donnell a chance though as i believe the potential is still there, A big year for Armagh this year lads and we certainly can't afford to carry any passengers. I don't expect to win anything but a good backbone of young lads should be brought in and worked with imo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on November 24, 2009, 08:42:30 AM
Is keeping Enda on board a cheap way of utilising his mental prep skills?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on November 24, 2009, 11:03:29 AM
Enda is simple still one of the best corner backs in armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 24, 2009, 11:39:25 AM
umgola are you serious, he couldnt even mark you?? mind you the old mind games might be different ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 24, 2009, 11:43:45 AM
surely someone like gerard barton or gerard mc coy of the ogs would deserve a chance other than someone who has served the county well but who has now lost the edge
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: judas1 on November 24, 2009, 12:03:57 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 24, 2009, 11:43:45 AM
surely someone like gerard barton or gerard mc coy of the ogs would deserve a chance other than someone who has served the county well but who has now lost the edge
wat about chris rafferty, wanderer did you forget about him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on November 24, 2009, 12:14:30 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 24, 2009, 11:43:45 AM
surely someone like gerard barton or gerard mc coy of the ogs would deserve a chance other than someone who has served the county well but who has now lost the edge

How do we know this or how have you arrived at that conclusion?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 24, 2009, 12:20:02 PM
watched him with mullabawn and didnt shine the 3 times i saw him and he didnt play for armagh last year, ps chris did deserve a further chance but where happy to see him play regularily for the ogs, great club player.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rattle-the-net on November 24, 2009, 12:45:03 PM
The u21 final was a game of two halfs!! the wind dictated the game, cross went all out the first half to score as much as they could and then defend for their lives second half.

Cruppin didnt get it right first half in my opinion, they should have pulled more bodies back to cope with the wind. Yet in saying that some of cruppin players didnt want to know first half but came out fighting second half and i think scored 7 8 points in the first 10 minutes and had cross rattled but then a young lad for cross got hurt and game was stopped for about 6 7 mins!

This took the momentum away from cruppin and when cruppin was going on the attack got caught at the back to concede a goal late on which killed the game as a contest.

Cross by far the better team on the day, pity game was played in such bad conditions, would have being great to see what the two teams could have produced on a good day!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on November 24, 2009, 12:57:44 PM
Doubt if Enda is fit for much more football with the county, but still wouldn't mind him around the set up in any capacity. No better man to let the newer additions know what it takes to reach the top. Remember watching him in a McKenna cup game a couple of years ago, and although the legs had gone a bit even then and he was struggling himself, he was constantly talking to the young lads around him, telling them where they should be for kick outs, reminding them which side of their man to stick on, etc. Having that sort of experience around the place is priceless.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewingedlady on November 24, 2009, 01:37:04 PM
The day I knew Enda's game was up was the Dublin County Final in 2005 when a very yoing Mark Vaughan absolutely roasted him in the first half, scoring 5/6 points off him before Na Fianna made a change. That's just over four years ago! He must be in there for his expertise in sports psychology because, whilst once a great player, he's simply not that standard anymore.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on November 24, 2009, 02:29:46 PM
Quote from: judas1 on November 24, 2009, 12:03:57 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 24, 2009, 11:43:45 AM
surely someone like gerard barton or gerard mc coy of the ogs would deserve a chance other than someone who has served the county well but who has now lost the edge
wat about chris rafferty, wanderer did you forget about him.

Very surprised rafferty didnt get another call up. was on the armagh championship panel last year and didnt even get a trial this year when he was centre half back on a championship winning team and was consistently good all year. armagh's loss is ogs gain i feel.

How many of the dromintee lads are on it? looking forward to seeing the full list of the panel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 24, 2009, 02:41:33 PM
Listen lads if Mc Nulty is in the panel for any other reason only football then he should be part of back ground staff and he shouldn't be taking the place of another lad. It's a joke but then again so is Armagh. I have seen Chris Rafferty play this year and he certainly didn't do anything wrong i would have said he deserved a shot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on November 24, 2009, 02:51:07 PM

I haven't seen McNulty play for so long that i couldn't give an assessment on him.

I guess neither have the new management and maybe they need to assess him? Are we sure he's on the panel?

There's a lot of hopeful names being bandied about that in our heart of hearts we know aren't going to make county footballers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 24, 2009, 03:15:38 PM
Mc Nulty played championship football last year for Mullaghbawn and he was stinking, that should have been enough for anyone to see that he was miles off the pace
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 24, 2009, 03:20:17 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on November 24, 2009, 11:03:29 AM
Enda is simple still one of the best corner backs in armagh

He couldnt handle the Goal Machine Bones! the Bear in the Square 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on November 24, 2009, 03:32:51 PM
see orchard county up and  running again
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on November 24, 2009, 06:27:31 PM
Is Chris Rafferty not about 28 now? It would be very difficult to see him able to take the step up to county at that age. We're not short of half backs at the minute either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 24, 2009, 11:13:32 PM
He would be that age but sure what does that matter if he is good enough? The lad at least deserved a trial. Sure if it was to be based on age Mc Nulty is 100 and he's still on the panel :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on November 25, 2009, 10:21:15 AM
Michael McConville has taken the managers position at Silverbridge.
Excellent news for them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 25, 2009, 10:50:05 AM
As the man would say the only way is up. He,s no dozzer ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on November 25, 2009, 03:25:55 PM
Players meeting tonight. All will be made clear.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 25, 2009, 05:05:01 PM
Quote from: the scenic route on November 25, 2009, 03:25:55 PM
Players meeting tonight. All will be made clear.

That will be a first in armagh :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on November 25, 2009, 06:12:12 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on November 21, 2009, 12:00:09 AM
He's not doing too much moderating at the minute
HE IS NOW  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 25, 2009, 08:42:35 PM
That he is.  I don't think it warranted the cheesy smiley though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 26, 2009, 09:30:27 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on November 25, 2009, 08:42:35 PM
That he is.  I don't think it warranted the cheesy smiley though
el your getting very sensitive but he is a balloon and runs a school boy site ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 26, 2009, 10:46:29 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on November 25, 2009, 10:21:15 AM
Michael McConville has taken the managers position at Silverbridge.
Excellent news for them.

Pints will be very happy. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 26, 2009, 12:37:11 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 26, 2009, 10:46:29 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on November 25, 2009, 10:21:15 AM
Michael McConville has taken the managers position at Silverbridge.
Excellent news for them.

Pints will be very happy. ;)

From far away :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on November 26, 2009, 01:22:01 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 26, 2009, 12:37:11 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 26, 2009, 10:46:29 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on November 25, 2009, 10:21:15 AM
Michael McConville has taken the managers position at Silverbridge.
Excellent news for them.

Pints will be very happy. ;)

From far away :D

Hopefully pints will keep his oar out of it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 26, 2009, 01:48:06 PM
Anyone else miss pints???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 26, 2009, 01:50:53 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 26, 2009, 10:46:29 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on November 25, 2009, 10:21:15 AM
Michael McConville has taken the managers position at Silverbridge.
Excellent news for them.

Pints will be very happy. ;)
I am happy, have a lot of time for him, on and off the field.  Good appointment imo.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 26, 2009, 05:23:16 PM
Thought you were dead big man
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on November 26, 2009, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 26, 2009, 05:23:16 PM
Thought you were dead big man
Why? I've been on other sections of the board, just not posting much in here since the football stopped.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 26, 2009, 05:56:06 PM
you mean football that u have a direct interest in. what have u been stirring elseware??  You should be in good form next season winners all the way in the league i,d say ;) think you,ll have a good xmas now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on November 27, 2009, 12:54:25 PM
anyone any news on the new jersey
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on November 27, 2009, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: naka on November 27, 2009, 12:54:25 PM
anyone any news on the new jersey

i see you can get the current one on sale on the oneills website! new jersey must be in pipeline!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 29, 2009, 12:39:45 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on November 26, 2009, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 26, 2009, 05:23:16 PM
Thought you were dead big man
Why? I've been on other sections of the board, just not posting much in here since the football stopped.

That's why big lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on November 30, 2009, 08:55:39 AM
Heard St Pats & Killeavey 2nd teams got into the league.

Will this affect the relegation issues?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on November 30, 2009, 09:24:27 AM
Quote from: full back on November 30, 2009, 08:55:39 AM
Heard St Pats & Killeavey 2nd teams got into the league.

Will this affect the relegation issues?

I could be wrong but I think that would have to be ratified by the clubs at the county AGM first. Presuming they both get in I have heard that the Leagues could be re-structured to split the number of teams equally in each division.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on November 30, 2009, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on November 30, 2009, 09:24:27 AM
Quote from: full back on November 30, 2009, 08:55:39 AM
Heard St Pats & Killeavey 2nd teams got into the league.

Will this affect the relegation issues?

I could be wrong but I think that would have to be ratified by the clubs at the county AGM first. Presuming they both get in I have heard that the Leagues could be re-structured to split the number of teams equally in each division.

If Killeavy 2nds get in, then is it more difficult for Killeen?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 30, 2009, 01:03:14 PM
With the proposed restructuring of the divisions into just North & South does it not make such a move redundant?  The likes of divisional B leagues will be much better for such restructuring.  Does it mean they'll have to have thirds teams as well??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on December 01, 2009, 04:51:26 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 26, 2009, 09:30:27 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on November 25, 2009, 08:42:35 PM
That he is.  I don't think it warranted the cheesy smiley though
el your getting very sensitive but he is a balloon and runs a school boy site  ;)
i see you got a mention on it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 02, 2009, 03:31:28 PM
Brilliant the violence is even spreading to their own now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on December 03, 2009, 02:01:49 PM
Relive a momentous year for the GAA in Armagh.  In the 125th Anniversary of the Association, Armagh continues to thrive.  We reached many milestones throughout the year, culminating in the Tom Markham Cup returning to Armagh aftera gap of 60 years.  The book is a fantastic 200 page publication, and is a must this Christmas for any GAA fan in Armagh.  It catalogues the high's, and the lows, of what was an eventful year for Armagh.

The Book will be launched over 2 locations this week:

SATURDAY 5TH DECEMBER

Eason's Newry - There will be a selection of Senior and Minor Players here, along with the Tom Markham Cup from 10am until 12 noon, with them being available for signing books and for pictures.

The Quay's Newry - There will be a stall in the Quay's where books can be purchased 10am until 3pm, with the Tom Markham Cup from 12 noon onwards

WEDNESDAY 9TH DECEMBER

Easons Craigavon, Rushmere Shopping Centre - There will be a selection of Senior and Minor Players here, along with the Tom Markham Cup from 7pm until 9pm, with them being available for signing books and for pictures.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 03, 2009, 04:25:16 PM
Is that orange michael, good luck with book launch.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on December 04, 2009, 08:47:44 AM
Congrats to Raymond McSherry who received the clubman personality of the year award at the recent county dinner. Very well deserved.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 06, 2009, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 30, 2009, 01:03:14 PM
With the proposed restructuring of the divisions into just North & South does it not make such a move redundant?  The likes of divisional B leagues will be much better for such restructuring.  Does it mean they'll have to have thirds teams as well??
What is the story with the proposed league restructuring? Are Killeavy & St Pats definitely entering 2nds teams and if so are they keeping their B teams? Personally I would like to see the leagues made smaller with an extra 5th division to try and increase the competitiveness and eliminate pointless end of season games. 10 teams for the top four divisions and the rest in the 5th. Home and away games, get league wrapped up mid-summer in time for championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 06, 2009, 09:05:41 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on December 06, 2009, 08:43:00 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on November 30, 2009, 01:03:14 PM
With the proposed restructuring of the divisions into just North & South does it not make such a move redundant?  The likes of divisional B leagues will be much better for such restructuring.  Does it mean they'll have to have thirds teams as well??
What is the story with the proposed league restructuring? Are Killeavy & St Pats definitely entering 2nds teams and if so are they keeping their B teams? Personally I would like to see the leagues made smaller with an extra 5th division to try and increase the competitiveness and eliminate pointless end of season games. 10 teams for the top four divisions and the rest in the 5th. Home and away games, get league wrapped up mid-summer in time for championship

We'll not be entering a B team. Think they intend going for 4 divisions of 12. With 5 divisions, the bottom division would only be 8 teams which would mean just 14 games for each team.
Title: Dromintee GAC fight night - Armagh, Derry, Down, Louth, Monaghan, Meath, Antrim
Post by: Ti Chulainn on December 06, 2009, 11:22:22 PM
http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18004372B04A3AC8?artistid=1018037&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=33 (http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18004372B04A3AC8?artistid=1018037&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=33)

Old scores will be settled, battlelines will be defended and honour put on the line as Dromintee prepare to withstand an invasion from Ulster and afar in the much-anticipated Fight Night, which will take place in the Carrickdale Hotel on January 16. Top GAA personalities from Antrim, Derry, Down, Louth, Meath and Monaghan will travel to take on the south Armagh natives with a full house expected.

The bill is sure to keep all in attendance entertained with the top bout of new Dromintee manager Aidan O'Rourke and Derry's Paddy Bradley garnering the most attention. Bradley's Glenullin teammate Gerard O'Kane will have to be on his toes as he comes up against Kevin Dyas, who has two years weight-training behind him from his time with Collingwood in Australia.

The Armagh/Down rivalry has always been legendary and Micheal O'Rourke and Shane O'Neill will try and get one over their Mourne neighbours when they come up against Dan McCartan and Aidan Carr respectively.

Colm Coyle began his preparations for his fight 13 years ago in the 1996 All-Ireland final, Pat McEnaney, the referee on the day, wasn't overly impressed with his boxing skills that day and gave him the line. Now the Meath man will get his chance at revenge when he squares up against Ulster's top official.

Whether on the pitch or in the political arena, it seems that there are plenty of people looking to land a blow on Antrim's 'Mr Marmite' Kevin McGourty; now Dromintee and Armagh defender Barry Shannon will get just that chance.

Vincey Martin's Dromintee hardman reputation will also be on the line when he comes up against Louth player Paddy Keenan. There will also be a number of contests involving local fighters on the night.

Aidan O'Rourke, one of the chief organisers, is anticipating a great night of entertainment; 'There'll be no holding back knowing the boys involved, said the former Orchard County All Star. Everyone is taking it very seriously. I know the Ulster lads have been training away and are coming here to win. We are as well. Seamus McCormick and the Sacred Heart Club in Newry have been fantastic in giving up their time in attempting to teach us the ropes.'

Organisers are keen to stress that tickets are selling fast and are encouraging people to get their tickets before Christmas to avoid disappointment.

Tickets for the event cost £10 and can be purchased from www.ticketmaster.ie

http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18004372B04A3AC8?artistid=1018037&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=33 (http://www.ticketmaster.ie/event/18004372B04A3AC8?artistid=1018037&majorcatid=10004&minorcatid=33)

Picture here:
http://www.hoganstand.com/Armagh/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=121289 (http://www.hoganstand.com/Armagh/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=121289)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 06, 2009, 11:33:23 PM
Good craic these nights out but i feel you are missing a trip there lads by only charging £10. I have been at two recently and one cost £30 the other £20 . Even £15 would have increased the profits.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 07, 2009, 09:13:35 AM
Agree there win, def should be at least £20 but i will be there for the crack. its £20 now just to sponsor a horse at a nite at the races this is a better nite, missing the boat a bit here!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: camloughlad on December 07, 2009, 12:14:20 PM
its £30 for a ring side seat.£10 is dead on if there is a family going.mother father and two or three kids talkin £50 then drinks.then there will be a raffle i would say.and its only a few weeks after xmas.it will be a full house i would say if its anything like the jigs and reels.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on December 07, 2009, 02:09:07 PM
Dyas looks like Oz done him no harm physically looks in some shape... Anyword on this Armagh panel. We are the only county that hasn't announced anything as of yet!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: omagh_gael on December 08, 2009, 09:55:59 AM
Could any of you lads give me directions to get to the Rushmere  centre in Craigavon coming from the M1 Tyrone side?

Cheers, asking here as no point starting a new thread!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: one for the road on December 08, 2009, 10:20:04 AM
take the turn off the motorway for the m12 (i think its junction 12)
second turn off the roundabout
take the right hand lane and a right at the traffic lights
straight threw the next set and about 1/2 mile its on your left
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on December 08, 2009, 10:34:36 AM
Quote from: one for the road on December 08, 2009, 10:20:04 AM
take the turn off the motorway for the m12 (i think its junction 12)

no, i made this mistake last night myself, it's junction 11.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 08, 2009, 11:23:52 AM
Quote from: stpauls on December 08, 2009, 10:34:36 AM
Quote from: one for the road on December 08, 2009, 10:20:04 AM
take the turn off the motorway for the m12 (i think its junction 12)

no, i made this mistake last night myself, it's junction 11.

What ever the Armagh turn off is...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sharpshooter09 on December 08, 2009, 02:08:48 PM
any truth in the romour that benny okane has taken the granemore job??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 08, 2009, 05:20:37 PM
Quote from: stpauls on December 08, 2009, 10:34:36 AM
Quote from: one for the road on December 08, 2009, 10:20:04 AM
take the turn off the motorway for the m12 (i think its junction 12)

no, i made this mistake last night myself, it's junction 11.

Junction 12 takes you off at The Birches
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 08, 2009, 05:42:22 PM
football action obviously in short supply when you,s are gettin directions for a shopping centre. congrats to st. pats college today on a thumping win over st. michaels. murnin and mc geown did most of the scoring. ps el cuervo how did u get on at the big presentation ogs night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on December 09, 2009, 10:49:20 AM
Just while we're talking about Rushmere I'll just remind everyone that the North Armagh Launch of the YEarbook takes place there tonight in Eason's:

WEDNESDAY 9TH DECEMBER

Easons Craigavon, Rushmere Shopping Centre - There will be a selection of Senior and Minor Players here, along with the Tom Markham Cup from 7pm until 9pm, with them being available for signing books and for pictures.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 09, 2009, 01:31:56 PM
see u there micky/rory  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 09, 2009, 10:13:03 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 08, 2009, 05:42:22 PM
football action obviously in short supply when you,s are gettin directions for a shopping centre. congrats to st. pats college today on a thumping win over st. michaels. murnin and mc geown did most of the scoring. ps el cuervo how did u get on at the big presentation ogs night.

Unfortunately I couldn't make it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on December 10, 2009, 12:06:09 AM
 anyone got an update on how ciaran mc keevers injury is  coming on

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 10, 2009, 12:50:28 PM
el what about cousin tony did he make it. hear there is a big end of year trip to letterkenny by the senior team this weekend. are u going, sounds like a wild time will be had by one and all. ps they deserve a blow out ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on December 10, 2009, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: sharpshooter09 on December 08, 2009, 02:08:48 PM
any truth in the romour that benny okane has taken the granemore job??
i was talking to one of the players last night and he had,nt heard anything  :-X
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 10, 2009, 05:37:01 PM
Would have been announced last nite only the digger got stuck in the bank. committee to reconvene to try new fund-raising venture for new management team ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 10, 2009, 08:15:43 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 10, 2009, 12:50:28 PM
el what about cousin tony did he make it. hear there is a big end of year trip to letterkenny by the senior team this weekend. are u going, sounds like a wild time will be had by one and all. ps they deserve a blow out ;)

Letterkenny will be quiet enough.  Out itinerary should follow something along the lines of:

a visit to the Donegal County Museum,

an exciting excursion to the Glebe House and Gallery

a quick tour of the Newmills Corn and Flax Mills

Followed by Story telling around the camp fire at Glenveagh National Park. 

It will be a busy day  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 11, 2009, 08:33:10 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on December 10, 2009, 08:15:43 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 10, 2009, 12:50:28 PM
el what about cousin tony did he make it. hear there is a big end of year trip to letterkenny by the senior team this weekend. are u going, sounds like a wild time will be had by one and all. ps they deserve a blow out ;)

Letterkenny will be quiet enough.  Out itinerary should follow something along the lines of:

a visit to the Donegal County Museum,

an exciting excursion to the Glebe House and Gallery

a quick tour of the Newmills Corn and Flax Mills

Followed by Story telling around the camp fire at Glenveagh National Park.  

It will be a busy day  ;)
should be good craic there then listening to boys full of bo  ;D enjoy the weekend
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 11, 2009, 08:55:15 AM
Quote from: BenDover on December 11, 2009, 08:33:10 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on December 10, 2009, 08:15:43 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 10, 2009, 12:50:28 PM
el what about cousin tony did he make it. hear there is a big end of year trip to letterkenny by the senior team this weekend. are u going, sounds like a wild time will be had by one and all. ps they deserve a blow out ;)

Letterkenny will be quiet enough.  Out itinerary should follow something along the lines of:

a visit to the Donegal County Museum,

an exciting excursion to the Glebe House and Gallery

a quick tour of the Newmills Corn and Flax Mills

Followed by Story telling around the camp fire at Glenveagh National Park.  

It will be a busy day  ;)
should be good craic there then listening to boys full of bo  ;D enjoy the weekend

I'll do my best Ben, not looking forward to Monday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on December 11, 2009, 01:05:59 PM
Haha flea pit it is
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 11, 2009, 03:23:32 PM
From what i here el it is god help Cathy. ps any truth in the rumour shes booked into the everglades hotel in Derry well away from yous full of the pipe men :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 11, 2009, 03:28:58 PM
Did any of you,s read the paid county secretary's report in the papers. What a scandal repeating the dirt again without confirming any names. He is once again trying to deflect from his total incompetence as an overpaid secretary of the county. he is a complete joke and hope he,s taken to task at the AGM.  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 11, 2009, 03:30:49 PM
ps el/bendover, see a full page article in the gaelic life today in relation to ur presentation nite. Milking it well ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on December 11, 2009, 07:35:40 PM
wanderer, home for xmas tomorrow, pints tomorrow night/?!!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 12, 2009, 06:52:11 AM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on December 11, 2009, 07:35:40 PM
wanderer, home for xmas tomorrow, pints tomorrow night/?!!! ;)

How about Sunday Umgola?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on December 13, 2009, 11:40:26 AM
could you kids plan your sessions elsewhere, i want to discuss football on this site,  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ceol agus peil on December 13, 2009, 01:56:31 PM
Three each in belfast
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ceol agus peil on December 13, 2009, 02:19:20 PM
Omagh lead eight to five at
halftime in belfastl
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ceol agus peil on December 13, 2009, 02:27:38 PM
Omagh one in front
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ceol agus peil on December 13, 2009, 02:38:56 PM
Omagh five ahead
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ceol agus peil on December 13, 2009, 02:42:46 PM
Conor white pen for armagh. Omagh lead by two
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Passing_Interest on December 13, 2009, 04:21:11 PM
Any result from Harps v Omagh match lads ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on December 13, 2009, 04:35:01 PM
Harps beaten by 4 aet.  Omagh the better team imo.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 14, 2009, 04:10:10 PM
County convention tonight? Anyone with any info (of note) on proceedings care to fill us in later? ta
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on December 14, 2009, 11:02:20 PM
The King is dead; long live the King! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mhacadoir on December 14, 2009, 11:25:26 PM
Chairman: Paul Duggan
Vice Chairman: Eddie Hughes
Secretary: Patrick Óg Nugent
Assistant Secretary: Michael McGivern
Treasurer: Peader Murray
Assistant Treasurer: Gerard Boyle
Development Officer: Seamus King
Games Coaching officer: Martin Kelly
PRO: Joe Jordan
Youth Officer: Paul Duggan
Ulster Council: Joe Jordan Eddie Hughes
Ulster Convention: Kevin Brady, Eddie Hughes, Seamus McDonagh, Michael O'Neill, Seamus Reavey, Michael Savage.
Irish officer: Peter Murphy
Annual Congress: Seamus King, Peader Murray, seaN reavey
Youth Delegate; James Morgan
Ard Chomhairle; Jarlath Burns
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 15, 2009, 09:09:58 AM
Big change at the top thought that might happen. Pity the nxt in line cant be removed with the fat salary, must be similar to ex donegal secretary who stepped down e55k per annum. I think mr duggan will do a good job, straight as a die thats for sure and good organiser.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on December 15, 2009, 09:42:25 AM
Wanderer no Harps people there last night?  Whats the craic with that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 15, 2009, 09:54:34 AM
cant confirm but thought new chairman and patsy nugent would have been there. would be very surprised if they wernt will confirm later.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 15, 2009, 09:56:06 AM
Was the extra teams for the league discussed last night or when is that? Is it still happening or what's the story?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on December 15, 2009, 10:10:27 AM
Fair enough I could be wrong on that one Wanderer.  New teams will be discussed at first meeting in Jan.  Each club got the lists of players from each club though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 15, 2009, 10:28:16 AM
orange paul gribben and patsy nugent where at the meeting. I beleive that the motion by st michaels will be discussed in jan meeting re the leagues restructuring. heard that their motion was out of order and the co secretary didnt contact them to allow ammendment as should be the case typical!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on December 15, 2009, 10:30:32 AM
 :-X for my sake!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 15, 2009, 10:47:58 AM
sori, forgot :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on December 15, 2009, 12:53:10 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 15, 2009, 09:09:58 AM
Big change at the top thought that might happen. Pity the nxt in line cant be removed with the fat salary, must be similar to ex donegal secretary who stepped down e55k per annum. I think mr duggan will do a good job, straight as a die thats for sure and good organiser.

No doubt about it, he'll certainly not take any sh1t....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on December 15, 2009, 01:26:04 PM
Candy does your avatar represent the amount of pints you drank on sunday  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on December 15, 2009, 02:11:08 PM
I don't know the politics of the county board but what were the main reasons for kevin Brady being replaced? Also what's this fella Duggan like? I think that new jersey looks ok.. In line with the new O'neills designs (cork etc). More importantly any word of the squad for the McKenna cup?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 15, 2009, 02:39:02 PM
Paul Duggan is principal of st. malachys ps in armagh and is a member of the Pearse ogs club. His brother Hugh refereed the all-ireland senior final in 1979. Paul has been the armagh youth officer for a few years, should be good for the post.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on December 15, 2009, 02:40:41 PM
Quote from: Bainisteoir on December 15, 2009, 02:11:08 PM
I don't know the politics of the county board but what were the main reasons for kevin Brady being replaced? Also what's this fella Duggan like? I think that new jersey looks ok.. In line with the new O'neills designs (cork etc). More importantly any word of the squad for the McKenna cup?

think when brady announced the county champions of 2009 as armagh harps said it all
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 15, 2009, 02:55:05 PM
Let me tell u pearseog that was only a minor blip, there have been worse comments during the years. But lets hope Paul wades in with a big iron bar to some of them. I think it is a positive appointment.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on December 15, 2009, 03:18:05 PM
Quote from: pearseog on December 15, 2009, 02:40:41 PM
Quote from: Bainisteoir on December 15, 2009, 02:11:08 PM
I don't know the politics of the county board but what were the main reasons for kevin Brady being replaced? Also what's this fella Duggan like? I think that new jersey looks ok.. In line with the new O'neills designs (cork etc). More importantly any word of the squad for the McKenna cup?

think when brady announced the county champions of 2009 as armagh harps said it all

True, that cant help your cause... Ah well if all is to believed on here then good luck to Paul Duggan, sounds like a step in the right direction... theres too many Yes men on the county board someone is needed who can wield the axe from time to time!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on December 15, 2009, 03:23:25 PM
Quote from: pearseog on December 15, 2009, 02:40:41 PM
Quote from: Bainisteoir on December 15, 2009, 02:11:08 PM
I don't know the politics of the county board but what were the main reasons for kevin Brady being replaced? Also what's this fella Duggan like? I think that new jersey looks ok.. In line with the new O'neills designs (cork etc). More importantly any word of the squad for the McKenna cup?

think when brady announced the county champions of 2009 as armagh harps said it all

Have the minors been stripped of their title? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 15, 2009, 03:32:22 PM
correct ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 15, 2009, 05:53:47 PM
THINK IF YOU CHECK THE ARMAGH WESITE HE DOES SAY THE HARPS WHEN PRESENTING CIARAN MC KINNEY THE CUP "FOOL"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on December 15, 2009, 07:09:52 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on December 15, 2009, 01:26:04 PM
Candy does your avatar represent the amount of pints you drank on sunday  ;)

No No... Thats the body count in the back garden!!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on December 15, 2009, 08:58:33 PM
Quote from: pearseog on December 15, 2009, 02:40:41 PM
Quote from: Bainisteoir on December 15, 2009, 02:11:08 PM
I don't know the politics of the county board but what were the main reasons for kevin Brady being replaced? Also what's this fella Duggan like? I think that new jersey looks ok.. In line with the new O'neills designs (cork etc). More importantly any word of the squad for the McKenna cup?

think when brady announced the county champions of 2009 as armagh harps said it all

oh i know!
his dislike for the ogs was clear! after the b final he came on and gave cormac moen the cup and walked off, hardly said a word!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on December 15, 2009, 09:23:02 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 15, 2009, 05:53:47 PM
THINK IF YOU CHECK THE ARMAGH WESITE HE DOES SAY THE HARPS WHEN PRESENTING CIARAN MC KINNEY THE CUP "FOOL"

THINK IF YOU CHECK THE SPELL...

Foolest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on December 15, 2009, 09:23:51 PM
Quote from: pearseog on December 15, 2009, 08:58:33 PM
Quote from: pearseog on December 15, 2009, 02:40:41 PM
Quote from: Bainisteoir on December 15, 2009, 02:11:08 PM
I don't know the politics of the county board but what were the main reasons for kevin Brady being replaced? Also what's this fella Duggan like? I think that new jersey looks ok.. In line with the new O'neills designs (cork etc). More importantly any word of the squad for the McKenna cup?

think when brady announced the county champions of 2009 as armagh harps said it all

oh i know!
his dislike for the ogs was clear! after the b final he came on and gave cormac moen the cup and walked off, hardly said a word!

So he's not all bad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on December 15, 2009, 09:40:02 PM
He has shown his dislike for the Ogs quite a lot over the years. Think he stood down this year because of the 5 year rule that exits now. The only thing I liked this year about him being chairman was that he had to hand trophys over to us. He couldn't even remember Mc Kinney's name to start with after we beat the Harps!!! As mentioned earlier about the B final as well, he just walked over with the cup and walked off!! A disgrace for any man in his position
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on December 15, 2009, 09:43:29 PM

no way brady had done 5 years. more like 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 15, 2009, 11:04:50 PM
2 at the very most duffle king . What is the five year rule???? It did seem a wee bit strange to me that Brady stepped down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on December 15, 2009, 11:35:14 PM
He did not step down, but was beat in an election for the position by Paul Duggan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 16, 2009, 12:45:57 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on December 15, 2009, 11:04:50 PM
2 at the very most duffle king . What is the five year rule???? It did seem a wee bit strange to me that Brady stepped down.

Think you can't hold the same post for more than 5 years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 16, 2009, 09:59:27 AM
Wasn't at the meeting but on sunday the 4th of december he knew he wasn't going to be the incoming chairman from the vibes i was getting of him. So something must have went on behind the scenes before a vote was taken.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 16, 2009, 10:43:36 AM
what went on behind the scenes was that someone put their name forward to contest the position. his credibility has been in taters and almost anyone willing to put their name forward would have won the vote that includes you skiddy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 16, 2009, 10:56:50 AM
Fair enough wanderer i wasn't at it. But he did know his fate early doors.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 16, 2009, 11:34:23 AM
win i take it he will now get reinvolved with your club especially with the major development plans on the horizon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 16, 2009, 12:03:13 PM
Well to be honest wanderer Kevin was always involved with the club and as far back as i can remember he was always on the committee in some form even when he was county chairman. He has been treasurer, chairman and every other role. so it will be a case of carrying on where he left off. The next few years are going to be big years for my club we are undertaking a huge devlopment project with Davitt (long overdue) it will take a lot of time, money patience and effort but the plans look super and it should be well worth it. The first phase is happeneing this year so Davitt will be permanently closed until further notice.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on December 16, 2009, 03:53:49 PM
from de Indo

The fallout over Peter McDonnell's departure as Armagh manager has resonated right into the heart of the County Board with chairman Kevin Brady losing his position.

Brady, chairman for the last three years, was deposed at the county's convention by Paul Duggan, an Armagh city primary school principal. McDonnell left the position in July after two years in a blaze of controversy, issuing a statement that was vague as to why he was quitting.

Armagh county secretary Patrick Og Nugent, having admitted that the treatment meted out to McDonnell was "utterly despicable," has now urged all units in the county to get behind new boss Paddy O'Rourke's management team.

"Let's put the negativity of 2009 behind us and get back to what we all strive for -- success for Armagh," declared Nugent.

A Carrickcruppin motion calling for clubs and county to be restricted to choosing managers from within was ruled out of order.

Carrickcruppin had sought to have the motion tabled as pressure grows to regulate the alleged payments to managers, something that GAA president Christy Cooney has been pushing as an agenda in recent days.

Armagh called on an outside manager to replace McDonnell with former Down All-Ireland winning captain and manager O'Rourke taking charge.

Meanwhile, former player Diarmuid Marsden has backed O'Rourke to make an impact with Armagh. Marsden said it didn't matter what county of origin the current manager had.

"It's new for the players that have been there used to Peter McDonnell, Joe Kernan and Brian McAlinden in the past years but the manager is the manager, he makes the calls and the players have to respond to that" said Marsden, a full-time regional development officer with Ulster Council.

"At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who's manager. You have to go out, do what you're told and play your role. Whether he's from Down or Armagh, he'll be there to do a job for himself so hopefully it will all come through."
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on December 16, 2009, 06:02:20 PM
Quote

A Carrickcruppin motion calling for clubs and county to be restricted to choosing managers from within was ruled out of order.

Would be very hypocritical to pass that when the county have an outside manager!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ulick on December 16, 2009, 08:39:13 PM
You'd think if the Indo was going to quote Marsden they'd at least spell his name properly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on December 18, 2009, 12:50:17 PM
stevie mc donnell to be confirmed as armagh captain 2010 , good choice .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 18, 2009, 01:00:41 PM
Paul Hearty P Ó hAghartaigh Raonaithe na Croise
Martin Ferris M Mac Fheoraois  Naomh Padraig Carraig Ropáin
Paul Kernan P Mac Thiarnáin Raonaithe na Croise
Paul Magee P Mac Aoidh Sáirséiligh na Móinte Arda
Shane O'Neill    S Ó Néill Naomh Padraig Droim an Tí
Vincent Martin    U Ó Mairtín Naomh Padraig Droim an Tí
Darnell Parkinson   D Mac Peáircín Na Piarsaigh Óga Ard Mhacha
Malachy Mackin  M Ó Maicín Naomh Padraig Coilleach Eannach
Ronan Austin             R Mac Aibhistín Clan na Gael An Lorgain
Michael McNamee     M Mac Conmidhe Raonaithe na Croise
Colm Watters   C Mac Uaitéir Na Gormacha Baile Mhic Cullaigh
Jason O'Neill   S Ó Néill Naomh Mhuire An Gráinne Mór
Tony Kernan A Mac Thiarnáin Raonaithe na Croise
Joe Feeney  S Ó Fianaí Ropairí na Madán
Brian McCone       B Mac Comhain Na Cloigthithe Baile Mhic an Aba
Philip McAvoy    P Mac Fhíobhúi Naomh Padraig Droim an Tí
Kevin Dyas          C Mac Diais Naomh Padraig Droim an Tí
Ryan Henderson  R Mac Éinrí Clann Éireann An Lorgain
Brian Mallon    B Ó Mealain Tír na nÓg Port An Dúnáin
Gareth Swift G Ó Fuada Clairsígh Ard Mhacha
Brendan Donaghy B Mac Donnchaidh An Chluain Mhór
Paul Duffy    P Ó Dufaigh Na Piarsaigh Óga Ard Mhacha
Aaron  Kernan  A Mac Thiarnáin Raonaithe na Croise
James Lavery S Ó Labhra Séan Mac Diarmada Machaire
Andy Mallon A Ó Mealaín Na Piarsigh Óga Ardmhacha
Finnian Moriarty F Ó Muireartaigh Uilf Tón Doire Mhic Áise
Barry Shannon B Ó Seanáin Naomh Padraig Droim an Tí
Charlie Vernon C de Bhearnúin Cláirsigh Ard Mhacha
Kieran Toner C Mac Tomhnair Naomh Mhuire An Gráinne Mór
Steven McDonnell S Mac Domhnaill Naomh Moiníne Cill Shléibhe
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on December 18, 2009, 01:16:08 PM
Obviously C McKeever injured.......what about Martin O'Rourke and Ronan Clarke, are they injured as well?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 18, 2009, 01:38:17 PM
MOR is...dunno about Clarke.

Not as many surprise inclusions as I was expecting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on December 18, 2009, 01:47:04 PM
Vernon must not be bothering with the Poly this year then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shazam on December 18, 2009, 01:47:52 PM
Is this Michael McNamees first time on the Armagh Senior panel? His brother Sean Mc owes me 20 quid
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 18, 2009, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: AFS on December 18, 2009, 01:47:04 PM
Vernon must not be bothering with the Poly this year then?
QUB til he dies. Seemingly
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 18, 2009, 02:13:43 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on December 18, 2009, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: AFS on December 18, 2009, 01:47:04 PM
Vernon must not be bothering with the Poly this year then?
QUB til he dies. Seemingly

And fair play to him for it!

Solid squad - no major surprises assuming Marty O'Rourke comes back after injury. Thought there might have been a few more from last year's u21s and maybe even 1 from the minors. What about the McKeowns from Cross?

The main bonus for this year is that we have the full squad, injuries apart, together from January without players coming in after club duty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:16:01 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on December 18, 2009, 01:00:41 PM
Paul Hearty P Ó hAghartaigh Raonaithe na Croise
Martin Ferris M Mac Fheoraois  Naomh Padraig Carraig Ropáin
Paul Kernan P Mac Thiarnáin Raonaithe na Croise
Paul Magee P Mac Aoidh Sáirséiligh na Móinte Arda
Shane O'Neill    S Ó Néill Naomh Padraig Droim an Tí
Vincent Martin    U Ó Mairtín Naomh Padraig Droim an Tí
Darnell Parkinson   D Mac Peáircín Na Piarsaigh Óga Ard Mhacha
Malachy Mackin  M Ó Maicín Naomh Padraig Coilleach Eannach
Ronan Austin             R Mac Aibhistín Clan na Gael An Lorgain
Michael McNamee     M Mac Conmidhe Raonaithe na Croise
Colm Watters   C Mac Uaitéir Na Gormacha Baile Mhic Cullaigh
Jason O'Neill   S Ó Néill Naomh Mhuire An Gráinne Mór
Tony Kernan A Mac Thiarnáin Raonaithe na Croise
Joe Feeney  S Ó Fianaí Ropairí na Madán
Brian McCone       B Mac Comhain Na Cloigthithe Baile Mhic an Aba
Philip McAvoy    P Mac Fhíobhúi Naomh Padraig Droim an Tí
Kevin Dyas          C Mac Diais Naomh Padraig Droim an Tí
Ryan Henderson  R Mac Éinrí Clann Éireann An Lorgain
Brian Mallon    B Ó Mealain Tír na nÓg Port An Dúnáin
Gareth Swift G Ó Fuada Clairsígh Ard Mhacha
Brendan Donaghy B Mac Donnchaidh An Chluain Mhór
Paul Duffy    P Ó Dufaigh Na Piarsaigh Óga Ard Mhacha
Aaron  Kernan  A Mac Thiarnáin Raonaithe na Croise
James Lavery S Ó Labhra Séan Mac Diarmada Machaire
Andy Mallon A Ó Mealaín Na Piarsigh Óga Ardmhacha
Finnian Moriarty F Ó Muireartaigh Uilf Tón Doire Mhic Áise
Barry Shannon B Ó Seanáin Naomh Padraig Droim an Tí
Charlie Vernon C de Bhearnúin Cláirsigh Ard Mhacha
Kieran Toner C Mac Tomhnair Naomh Mhuire An Gráinne Mór
Steven McDonnell S Mac Domhnaill Naomh Moiníne Cill Shléibhe

Happy enough with that panel tbh.  parkinson and duffys form in ogs championship run definately merit their inclusion.  thought mackin was very harshly dropped from the panel previously did a job few years back at half forward and seems to play very well 4 cullyhanna going by reports. mcnamee deserves a chance though size maybe his main downfall.  joneill has impressed me a fewtimes when i saw him and think him and pmcd had a row hence wasnt given a chance previously.  mccone was meant to be very good at the trials and didnt appear to get a real chance under pmcd.the nab could really push for promotion this year if he doesnt make cship panel and having mcparland and grogan for the whole year.  great to have dyas back, though think his clubmate shane o neill may be out of his depth good club player but dont think co standard.hope to be proven wrong.  would like see nippy swift at 11 in a few of the games, can take a score, fetch, carry the ball and take a score.  hope henderson gets a bit of game time also.  any thoughts lads?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shazam on December 18, 2009, 02:18:35 PM
Need to get some more portadown men in that team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:20:33 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 18, 2009, 02:13:43 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on December 18, 2009, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: AFS on December 18, 2009, 01:47:04 PM
Vernon must not be bothering with the Poly this year then?
QUB til he dies. Seemingly

And fair play to him for it!

Solid squad - no major surprises assuming Marty O'Rourke comes back after injury. Thought there might have been a few more from last year's u21s and maybe even 1 from the minors. What about the McKeowns from Cross?

The main bonus for this year is that we have the full squad, injuries apart, together from January without players coming in after club duty.

TAM heard paul mckeown asked on before and declined to go.may be wrong maybe bc1 would know better..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:21:38 PM
Quote from: Shazam on December 18, 2009, 02:18:35 PM
Need to get some more portadown men in that team.
who like shazam?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:34:11 PM

team i would like to see(bear in mind experiment!)
mcavoy
mallon parkinson kernan
duffy donaghey dyas
vernon lavery
ak swift mcnamee
mccone henderson joneill
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 18, 2009, 02:34:29 PM
One P'down man is enough  :-*

Happy enough with that panel, TAC was Watters not U21 last year? I think hes the youngest on the panel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:40:43 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on December 18, 2009, 02:34:29 PM
One P'down man is enough  :-*

Happy enough with that panel, TAC was Watters not U21 last year? I think hes the youngest on the panel.

i was at the cavan game in ahletic grounds dont think hre featured that day fitz,though could have been injured
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 18, 2009, 02:43:15 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:40:43 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on December 18, 2009, 02:34:29 PM
One P'down man is enough  :-*

Happy enough with that panel, TAC was Watters not U21 last year? I think hes the youngest on the panel.

i was at the cavan game in ahletic grounds dont think hre featured that day fitz,though could have been injured
Aye he's had no luck with injuries saw him once this year in the intermediate though didn't really stand out. That said is a huge talent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 18, 2009, 02:44:19 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:40:43 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on December 18, 2009, 02:34:29 PM
One P'down man is enough  :-*

Happy enough with that panel, TAC was Watters not U21 last year? I think hes the youngest on the panel.

i was at the cavan game in ahletic grounds dont think hre featured that day fitz,though could have been injured

Possibly. AAs chrlie says I can't remember him playing the Cavan match or the Ulster final. I was thinking more along the lines of the half backs, couple of Harps men and fella from Tullysraran - Comiskey? Thought they might be making the step up along with Paul McKeown at full back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:47:09 PM
think comiskey may be studying in scotland possibly why not included.we seem hae a great range of half backs but we need half forwards!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:48:50 PM

2010 ULSTER MINOR FOOTBALL LEAGUE FIXTURES

Fixtures and competition regulations for 2010 Ulster Minor Football League:

ULSTER MINOR FOOTBALL LEAGUE

Saturday 13 March
Section A (12.00)
Armagh v Monaghan at Armagh
Down v Dublin at Newry
Cavan v Meath at Breffni Park
Section B (12.00)
Donegal v Fermanagh at Letterkenny
Tyrone v Derry at Omagh
Antrim v Westmeath at Casement Park

Saturday 20 March
Section A (12.00)
Armagh v Meath at Athletic Grounds
Monaghan v Down at Ballybay
Cavan v Dublin at Cavan
Section B (12.00)
Derry v Donegal at Celtic Park
Fermanagh v Antrim at Enniskillen
Tyrone v Westmeath at Omagh

Saturday 27 March
Section A (12.00)
Cavan v Armagh at Cavan
Monaghan v Dublin at Castleblaney
Down v Meath at Newry
Section B (12.00)
Derry v Antrim at Maghera
Donegal v Tyrone at Ballybofey
Fermanagh v Westmeath at Lisnaskea

Saturday 3 April
Section A (12.00)
Monaghan v Meath at Ballybay
Down v Cavan at Newry
Armagh v Dublin at Athletic Grounds
Section B (12.00)
Tyrone v Fermanagh at Omagh
Antrim v Donegal at Casement Park
Derry v Westmeath at Ballinascreen

Saturday 10 April
Section A (12.00)
Armagh v Down at Crossmaglen
Monaghan v Cavan at Ballybay
Dublin v Meath at Dublin
Section B (12.00)
Fermanagh v Derry at Irvinestown
Antrim v Tyrone at Casement Park
Donegal v Westmeath at Ballyshannon

Saturday 17 April
FINAL (Extra time, if required)

Competition Regulations:

(1) Fixtures must be played on designated date and at the stated time, unless otherwise authorised by the CCC Comhairle Uladh.

(2) Minor Football League will be played in two sections with two (2) points for a win and one (1) point for a draw.

(3) The top team in each section will play in the League Final.

(4) Scoring Average will apply in the event of two or more teams in the same section finishing on equal points.

(5) All counties should submit a panel prior to the competition commencing detailing the list of players that they will be using, including their club, their dates of birth, their place of birth and their mother's maiden name.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:49:52 PM
PROVISIONAL ARMAGH MINOR PANEL – 2010
The provisional Armagh Minor panel for 2010 has just been released and it is as follows (names of clubs in alphabetical order):-

Annaghmore: M McNeice, C Maclomhaire
Ballymacnab: D McParland, B Toner
Belleek: L Quinn
Carrickcruppen: R Lewis
Clan na Gael: C Conway
Clann Eireann: B McCarron, M Beattie
Clonmore: D Mullen
Collegeland: T Murphy
Crossmaglen: P McEntee, R Conlon, G Rooney, G O'Neill, R Finnegan
Derrynoose: C McNally
Dromintee: D McKenna
Aghagallon: C McAlinden
Forkhill: P Burns, J Hall
Granemore: P Hollywood, R Rafferty, D Rafferty
Grange: M McKenna
Armagh Harps: C White, M McKenna, S Donnelly, S McCoy, P Rafferty
Keady: C Hughes, D Nugent, J King
Killeavy: C Trainor
Madden: C Rafferty
Mullaghbawn: E English
O'Hanlon's: C Gough
Pearse Og: G Flynn
An Port Mor: J McLoughlin
St Patrick's: P Casey, O Carragher, D Mackin, A McCooey, C Hoey
St Peter's: N McConville, S O'Neill, A Fintan
Sarsfields: C Stevenson, P McGeown
Shane O'Neill's: R Evans, D Doyle
Silverbridge: P Carragher
Tir na nÓg: M Davidson, C McCann
Wolfe Tone: A McKeever, R McCaughley, J Doyle
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:51:15 PM

   
   
ARMAGH v MONAGHAN AT INNISKEEN – 3RD JANUARY
On January 3rd, Cumann Lúthchleas Gael Inis Caoin will honour the memory of its most famous son, with the official opening of the Paddy O'Rourke Stand in Pairc Grattan. The stand, which is part of the club's new 3 million development, is dedicated to the memory of the late Paddy O'Rourke.

Paddy, a true legend of the G.A.A., served as a secretary of the Inniskeen Grattans committee for an astonishing 56 consecutive years along with filling many other positions during that time. He dedicated his life to the improvement of not only the G.A.A. in Inniskeen, but throughout Monaghan as he served as treasurer on the Monaghan Co. Board for the best part of a quarter of a century.

As a player he represented Monaghan for almost a decade and was on the Monaghan team that won the Ulster Senior Football Championship in 1938. He was also an integral member of the Inniskeen team that put Monaghan Senior Championships back to back in 1947 and 1948.

The occasion will be marked with a match between Monaghan and Armagh at 2pm, with the official opening taking place at 1.30pm. It will be a chance for "Banty" to try out a few new players and it will also be the first outing for Armagh's new manager, who is fittingly named Paddy O'Rourke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 18, 2009, 02:51:53 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 18, 2009, 02:44:19 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:40:43 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on December 18, 2009, 02:34:29 PM
One P'down man is enough  :-*

Happy enough with that panel, TAC was Watters not U21 last year? I think hes the youngest on the panel.

i was at the cavan game in ahletic grounds dont think hre featured that day fitz,though could have been injured

Possibly. AAs chrlie says I can't remember him playing the Cavan match or the Ulster final. I was thinking more along the lines of the half backs, couple of Harps men and fella from Tullysraran - Comiskey? Thought they might be making the step up along with Paul McKeown at full back.
Didn't really follow the U21s last year if I'm honest. What about big Kenna from Cross, take it he is at Poly? Always see him lurkin about Belfast. Only 2 keepers, last year there were 4!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shazam on December 18, 2009, 02:52:13 PM
I see there is an aghagallon man in that panel, are they not an antrim club.

Quote from: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:21:38 PM
Quote from: Shazam on December 18, 2009, 02:18:35 PM
Need to get some more portadown men in that team.
who like shazam?

theres a boy called dog box, the code and another fella bisto who are good wee players
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:59:15 PM
Quote from: Shazam on December 18, 2009, 02:52:13 PM
I see there is an aghagallon man in that panel, are they not an antrim club.

Quote from: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:21:38 PM
Quote from: Shazam on December 18, 2009, 02:18:35 PM
Need to get some more portadown men in that team.
who like shazam?

theres a boy called dog box, the code and another fella bisto who are good wee players

think hes getting a transfer to st peters.  good players but are they county standard?thought that fella code was playing for south armagh club now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shazam on December 18, 2009, 03:06:38 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:59:15 PM
Quote from: Shazam on December 18, 2009, 02:52:13 PM
I see there is an aghagallon man in that panel, are they not an antrim club.

Quote from: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:21:38 PM
Quote from: Shazam on December 18, 2009, 02:18:35 PM
Need to get some more portadown men in that team.
who like shazam?

theres a boy called dog box, the code and another fella bisto who are good wee players

think hes getting a transfer to st peters.  good players but are they county standard?thought that fella code was playing for south armagh club now?

There all hard men so would be well up for the physical challenge at county level. Have you ever seen the code running, he runs like a penguin. He can ping a pass though.

How can that fella play for armagh if his transfer isnt even processed yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 03:16:54 PM
Quote from: Shazam on December 18, 2009, 03:06:38 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:59:15 PM
Quote from: Shazam on December 18, 2009, 02:52:13 PM
I see there is an aghagallon man in that panel, are they not an antrim club.

Quote from: charlie stubbs on December 18, 2009, 02:21:38 PM
Quote from: Shazam on December 18, 2009, 02:18:35 PM
Need to get some more portadown men in that team.
who like shazam?

theres a boy called dog box, the code and another fella bisto who are good wee players

think hes getting a transfer to st peters.  good players but are they county standard?thought that fella code was playing for south armagh club now?

There all hard men so would be well up for the physical challenge at county level. Have you ever seen the code running, he runs like a penguin. He can ping a pass though.

How can that fella play for armagh if his transfer isnt even processed yet?

dont know the ins and outs of it just hearsay
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 18, 2009, 03:44:16 PM
QuoteQuote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on Today at 02:13:43 PM

    Quote from: fitzroyalty on Today at 02:01:24 PM

        Quote from: AFS on Today at 01:47:04 PM

            Vernon must not be bothering with the Poly this year then?

        QUB til he dies. Seemingly


    And fair play to him for it!

    Solid squad - no major surprises assuming Marty O'Rourke comes back after injury. Thought there might have been a few more from last year's u21s and maybe even 1 from the minors. What about the McKeowns from Cross?

    The main bonus for this year is that we have the full squad, injuries apart, together from January without players coming in after club duty.


TAM heard paul mckeown asked on before and declined to go.may be wrong maybe bc1 would know better..

Paul is currently recovering from knee surgery and may be involved when he recovers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on December 18, 2009, 05:19:33 PM
Bisto lol if it was drinking not football maybe :D :D wouldnt get a ball in jjb
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on December 18, 2009, 07:23:42 PM
austin kelly new granemore coach / manager . ex clann eirann .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ulick on December 19, 2009, 12:04:57 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on December 18, 2009, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: AFS on December 18, 2009, 01:47:04 PM
Vernon must not be bothering with the Poly this year then?
QUB til he dies. Seemingly

Heard him say that at the start of the year. Don't believe a word of it... neither does any of his old teammates.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 19, 2009, 06:58:01 PM
donaghy named as interim captain,bit of a surprise!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BroJolly on December 19, 2009, 11:56:09 PM
The squad deliberately doesn't include any u21s or obviously uni players, so there's probably betwen 5 - 10 places up for grabs come the league.

Kevin O'Rourke not being included seems strange to me. Anyone know why?

Always think its a bit harsh getting your chance in McKenna cup in heavy water logged pitches.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 20, 2009, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: BroJolly on December 19, 2009, 11:56:09 PM
The squad deliberately doesn't include any u21s or obviously uni players, so there's probably betwen 5 - 10 places up for grabs come the league.

Kevin O'Rourke not being included seems strange to me. Anyone know why?

Always think its a bit harsh getting your chance in McKenna cup in heavy water logged pitches.

paddy o rourke only had 1 player in the down panel out of the top 2 divisions when he was in charge. feels players need be playing at high level to develop.think a lad john gibney got a transfer to loughinisland to try force him way onto team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on December 20, 2009, 03:51:49 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on December 20, 2009, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: BroJolly on December 19, 2009, 11:56:09 PM
The squad deliberately doesn't include any u21s or obviously uni players, so there's probably betwen 5 - 10 places up for grabs come the league.

Kevin O'Rourke not being included seems strange to me. Anyone know why?

Always think its a bit harsh getting your chance in McKenna cup in heavy water logged pitches.

paddy o rourke only had 1 player in the down panel out of the top 2 divisions when he was in charge. feels players need be playing at high level to develop.think a lad john gibney got a transfer to loughinisland to try force him way onto team

True, John left Dundrum to go to Loughinisland around 2003. We were a Division 3 club at the time and Paddy told John that he would get him on to the county Seniors if he moved to Loughinisland.

Needless to say Paddy never called John up to the Down Seniors and young Gibbo realised that the grass is not always greener on the other side.

I lost all respect for O'Rourke after that incident. He used to be a man I looked up to as he was an All Ireland winning captain. In my opinion he let himself down a bagful over his treatment of Gibney.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 20, 2009, 04:15:03 PM
df can see why you were pissed off to be honest. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 20, 2009, 07:55:52 PM
Quote from: Ulick on December 19, 2009, 12:04:57 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on December 18, 2009, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: AFS on December 18, 2009, 01:47:04 PM
Vernon must not be bothering with the Poly this year then?
QUB til he dies. Seemingly

Heard him say that at the start of the year. Don't believe a word of it... neither does any of his old teammates.
From what I have heard I severly doubt he'll be playing for UUJ.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on December 20, 2009, 09:23:25 PM
Just looking at the county website i noticed that on the page that shows the new jersey the new trainer McGurn in in the picture. It describes him as High Performance Sports Consultant from Elite Sports Belfast. What is his role...Is he self employed and are the county using him on a consultancy basis? i had the idea he was now a county board employee as he was supposed to be working with all age groups. I wouldn't like to think he is using Armagh for self promotion purposes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 21, 2009, 09:31:50 AM
There is nothing wrong with being self-employed as it saves him and the county board tax. Wise up in relation to exploting Armagh as we will benefit greatly at all age groups. Have a Life if this is an attempt to create futher disharmony within the county. the proof is in the eating.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 21, 2009, 09:39:15 AM
Charlie minor squad will change dramatically at end of Jan. A number of boys on the panel not up to county standard also a few prominent missing until then. But there all there to make training matches and press for a place in the final 30.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on December 21, 2009, 11:15:34 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 21, 2009, 09:31:50 AM
There is nothing wrong with being self-employed as it saves him and the county board tax. Wise up in relation to exploting Armagh as we will benefit greatly at all age groups. Have a Life if this is an attempt to create futher disharmony within the county. the proof is in the eating.

I'm not trying to create disharmony, in fact I'm delighted with the managerial team we have in place and looking forward to see how the team reacts to them over the coming months!! I agree entirely with your point on the tax.. Was just looking to know what the official line on him is (if there is any). I know its not uncommon for county's to consult various "experts", think Monaghan used a fella Connolly who works for the welsh rugby union. Was just looking to know what the situation was.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Davitt Man on December 21, 2009, 12:30:38 PM
Lads, i was chatting to a mate of mine about stevie mcdonnell and we were trying to figure out what year and what team armagh played someone in croker, stevie scored a goal  and turned his back to the crowd pointing at his number 13 on the back of his jersey, just trying to find a clip of it on youtube but cant figure out when it was or who they were playin??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on December 21, 2009, 05:19:48 PM
Quote from: Davitt Man on December 21, 2009, 12:30:38 PM
Lads, i was chatting to a mate of mine about stevie mcdonnell and we were trying to figure out what year and what team armagh played someone in croker, stevie scored a goal  and turned his back to the crowd pointing at his number 13 on the back of his jersey, just trying to find a clip of it on youtube but cant figure out when it was or who they were playin??


v Kerry in 2006, think its this first clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuloFOSEAWM
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 21, 2009, 06:38:31 PM
Was it not the Ulster final vs Tyrone in 2005?

I think the picture adourns McKenna's wall in Armagh City.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gaffer on December 21, 2009, 06:47:57 PM
Was v Tyrone in 2005 but I think it was the AI semi.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 21, 2009, 07:26:34 PM
congrats to andy murnin on college allstar.is caolan trainor(st.pauls bessbrook) an armagh man?pardon my ignorance
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on December 21, 2009, 07:31:48 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on December 21, 2009, 07:26:34 PM
congrats to andy murnin on college allstar.is caolan trainor(st.pauls bessbrook) an armagh man?pardon my ignorance

Killeavy I think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cillsleibhe on December 22, 2009, 12:01:00 PM
Caolan is from Killeavy.  Played minor and u16 this year and helped to win two league titles.  First player from St. Paul's to win an Ulster Colleges All-Star and they are rightly chuffed about it.  I think, though I stand to be corrected, that he might also be the first from Killeavy to win one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on December 22, 2009, 01:04:27 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on December 21, 2009, 06:38:31 PM
Was it not the Ulster final vs Tyrone in 2005?

I think the picture adourns McKenna's wall in Armagh City.

Half right Joe!

That a picture in Joe McKennas is of the aftermath of his goal, into the Canal End, against Tyrone in the 2005 All Ireland Semi-Final.

A great picture and a great goal!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on December 22, 2009, 01:09:21 PM
Quote from: cillsleibhe on December 22, 2009, 12:01:00 PM
Caolan is from Killeavy.  Played minor and u16 this year and helped to win two league titles.  First player from St. Paul's to win an Ulster Colleges All-Star and they are rightly chuffed about it.  I think, though I stand to be corrected, that he might also be the first from Killeavy to win one.


Not sure but I think Big Barry Duffy might have one
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Davitt Man on December 22, 2009, 01:33:42 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on December 22, 2009, 01:04:27 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on December 21, 2009, 06:38:31 PM
Was it not the Ulster final vs Tyrone in 2005?

I think the picture adourns McKenna's wall in Armagh City.

Half right Joe!

That a picture in Joe McKennas is of the aftermath of his goal, into the Canal End, against Tyrone in the 2005 All Ireland Semi-Final.

A great picture and a great goal!
Does anyone know where i can a picture or clip of this goal and celebration??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tots on December 22, 2009, 05:40:38 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on December 20, 2009, 04:15:03 PM
df can see why you were pissed off to be honest.

Lies craic up at the club the other night stubbsy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 23, 2009, 10:26:23 AM
Sorry Tots but no Flour Bags allowed on the GAA Board... :P

I hope your not who i think you are or i'll have to have a word with your da
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tots on December 23, 2009, 03:15:45 PM
Quote from: illdecide on December 23, 2009, 10:26:23 AM
Sorry Tots but no Flour Bags allowed on the GAA Board... :P

I hope your not who i think you are or i'll have to have a word with your da

My aul fella is Gerardio. You know him?
Up the lilywhites  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shazam on December 23, 2009, 03:18:29 PM
Tots if there was a drinking championship it would be the only thing you would have a chance of winning because the flourbags are death at football. woopa
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on December 25, 2009, 10:13:53 AM
Hope everyone has a great Christmas (even the Harps lads) and happy new year!! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 25, 2009, 01:07:59 PM
Yes lads and ladies have a good one ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on December 26, 2009, 04:00:51 PM
Quote from: ogshead on December 25, 2009, 10:13:53 AM
Hope everyone has a great Christmas (even the Harps lads) and happy new year!! :D

second that! hope 2010 is a good year for Armagh GAA!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 29, 2009, 02:32:19 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on December 26, 2009, 04:00:51 PM
Quote from: ogshead on December 25, 2009, 10:13:53 AM
Hope everyone has a great Christmas (even the Harps lads) and happy new year!! :D

second that! hope 2010 is a good year for Armagh GAA!
Just home from the pub my old mate goin by the time posted. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 29, 2009, 02:35:46 PM
Things had been nice and quiet around here for a few days wanderer while you weren't around
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 29, 2009, 04:09:58 PM
Feel nice and refreshed for the new year, lookin forward to the latest gossip. How did xmas go for u EL, where u in raffertys for the big event on BOXING day. Hope ur attending the gym for the new season. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on December 29, 2009, 06:31:54 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 29, 2009, 04:09:58 PM
Feel nice and refreshed for the new year, lookin forward to the latest gossip. How did xmas go for u EL, where u in raffertys for the big event on BOXING day. Hope ur attending the gym for the new season. ;)

Luckily I decided to spend boxing day on the couch, it was great to see all the text messages the next morning though.  It was eventful from what I heard.

I'm attending the gym surely, but a week of eating nothing but crap doesn't exactly help much for my trim figure  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 30, 2009, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on December 29, 2009, 06:31:54 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 29, 2009, 04:09:58 PM
Feel nice and refreshed for the new year, lookin forward to the latest gossip. How did xmas go for u EL, where u in raffertys for the big event on BOXING day. Hope ur attending the gym for the new season. ;)

Luckily I decided to spend boxing day on the couch, it was great to see all the text messages the next morning though.  It was eventful from what I heard.

I'm attending the gym surely, but a week of eating nothing but crap doesn't exactly help much for my trim figure  ;)
Get down to the Gym NOW.  see u soon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wallyman on January 02, 2010, 08:54:16 PM
any1 heading up to the armagh game 2mara?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on January 02, 2010, 09:44:41 PM
who are they playing, and where is the match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 02, 2010, 10:17:39 PM
monaghan inniskeen at 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 02, 2010, 10:39:05 PM
I'd say there's a decent chance it won't go ahead, freezing again tonight and not likely to be much warmer by 2 tomorrow.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on January 03, 2010, 12:45:42 PM
Is the game on today lads?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 03, 2010, 01:20:59 PM
A poster on orchardcounty.com said its definitely off. Don't think I'll risk making the trip when it probably is off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 03, 2010, 01:26:24 PM
Monaghan CB website says its off too.

http://www.monaghan.gaa.ie/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 05, 2010, 11:13:36 AM
Quote from: Tots on December 23, 2009, 03:15:45 PM
Quote from: illdecide on December 23, 2009, 10:26:23 AM
Sorry Tots but no Flour Bags allowed on the GAA Board... :P

I hope your not who i think you are or i'll have to have a word with your da

My aul fella is Gerardio. You know him?
Up the lilywhites  ;)

Correct saan i know big Gerard alright...Pudding he is  :P only messin.

Looking forward to a few of the Armagh league matches coming up...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on January 05, 2010, 07:16:38 PM
Fermanagh game switched to Athletic Grounds i see....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 05, 2010, 07:48:12 PM
Whats the story with the league this year. I heard Mullaghbawn may be still in division one as they are making it 12 teams???? any truth or shite???

Also are the any other clubs from Armagh joining the Ulster league??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 05, 2010, 08:33:49 PM
st pats and killeavy have to be allowed to enter second teams before the leagues can be sorted winsam.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 05, 2010, 09:10:49 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 05, 2010, 07:48:12 PM
Whats the story with the league this year. I heard Mullaghbawn may be still in division one as they are making it 12 teams???? any truth or shite???

Also are the any other clubs from Armagh joining the Ulster league??

I had heard that it was both Killeavey and Mullaghbawn that were staying up, which would make the first division 12 teams.  So Killeavey get to stay up just because they put a 2nds team into the 4th division
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on January 05, 2010, 11:04:09 PM
Havin heard anything about it to b honest win other than what was said here a while ago...2b honest i am not a big fan of teams enterin second teams...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tevez on January 06, 2010, 12:06:30 AM
Does anyone know when the decision will be made about Kileavey and St Pats joing the fourth division? Don't see how they can't join when Cross have a seconds team, and they have the numbers to have both teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 06, 2010, 12:21:47 AM
Quote from: tevez on January 06, 2010, 12:06:30 AM
Does anyone know when the decision will be made about Kileavey and St Pats joing the fourth division? Don't see how they can't join when Cross have a seconds team, and they have the numbers to have both teams.

I can only assume they'll either let us in or throw Cross IIs. And I think the 2nd option is fairly unlikely!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 06, 2010, 09:55:31 AM
I've no problem with that, if teams want to enter a 2nd team then fair enough. It may well be cute enough from Killeavey's point but they must have the numbers to do so or they wouldn't be doing it. A 12 team division will be better too so i'm all for it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 06, 2010, 10:24:49 AM
All for the twelve teams myself but don't think it should mean that Killeavy stay in the top flight. But i gather it is just a proposal so we will have to wait till it is decided upon  ;)

but trying to get the extra four games in will be a tougher assignment and will undoubtedly have to involve more friday nights games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 06, 2010, 10:42:22 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 06, 2010, 10:24:49 AM
All for the twelve teams myself but don't think it should mean that Killeavy stay in the top flight. But i gather it is just a proposal so we will have to wait till it is decided upon  ;)

but trying to get the extra four games in will be a tougher assignment and will undoubtedly have to involve more friday nights games

Correct sir but Friday night games are class (if they're at home and you win :D)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 06, 2010, 12:03:36 PM
County board meeting next weds when it will be decided. dont see there being a problem with Killeavey and St. Pats entering 2nd teams, i think this will be agreed ok. In relation to the 4 divisions there will then be 12 in each and it is quite possible that killeavey and mullaghbawn will retain their 1st division status, however the teams finishing 3rd and 4th in div2 last year ,Granemore is one will certainly be pushing to get promoted. Should be an interesting meeting. I think it is a good idea to have 12 teams especially in div1 which will give more football up to the start of the championships which will not commence senior anyway until the end of august at the earliest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 06, 2010, 12:06:43 PM
Maybe the 3rd and 4th teams from Division 2 last year could play Mullaghbawn and Killeavey to see who plays in Div 1 next year???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 06, 2010, 12:23:07 PM
Cant see that happening but have to say i think that would be the fairest outcome. Il maybe you could suggest that to your county board representative. The championship draws will possible take place that night as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ti Chulainn on January 06, 2010, 12:55:07 PM
Dromintee GAC Fight Night set to be sold out

The organisers of the Dromintee GAC Fight Night are anticipating a sell out crowd for their Fight Night on Saturday 16th January
A lot of hard work has gone on behind the scenes to ensure this night will attract a bumper crowd to the Carrickdale Hotel.

The main attraction on the night is the fight card itself, with GAA stars from 7 counties taking part and fighters have been matched up to ensure maximum entertainment.

Top of the bill is Aidan O'Rourke, the current Dromintee Manager and former All-Ireland and All Star winner with Armagh, against sharp shooter Paddy Bradley from Derry, also an All Star. Current and former county players from Armagh, Down, Derry, Antrim, and Meath will go toe to toe. In addition, two former Australia Rules players, Kevin Dyas (Collingwood and Armagh) and Colm Begley (Brisbane Lions, St. Kilda, and Laois) will be showing the crowd what they are made of. For added attraction, Ireland's top referee Pat McEnaney will be donning his gloves to try and put manners on Colm Coyle from Meath, whom he sent off in the 1996 All Ireland Final.

MC on the night will be COOL FM's Connor Phillips. There will be entertainment for the crowd throughout the night, followed by a disco after the final bout.

Peter Fearon, Dromintee Chairman, commented: 'The line up of fighters on the night is a credit to our Senior Team players who have pulled out all the stops to get the big names, the organisation of the night has been very professional. Seamus McCormick of the Sacred Heart Boxing Club, and his team, deserve great credit for the work they have put in to training our lads - this event would not be possible without them.'

The main event sponsors are The Carrickdale Hotel and Dromintee GAC would like to thank the hotel from their continued support.

Peter Fearon continued: 'We have been overwhelmed with requests for tickets and I would encourage everyone to get tickets well before the event to avoid disappointment'
Ringside tickets are now sold out. A number of general admission tickets are still available but are selling fast.
Tickets for the event cost £10 and can be purchased from any Dromintee Senior player or on

http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/Dromintee-GAC-Fight-Night-tickets/artist/1018037 (http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/Dromintee-GAC-Fight-Night-tickets/artist/1018037)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 06, 2010, 02:53:45 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 06, 2010, 12:06:43 PM
Maybe the 3rd and 4th teams from Division 2 last year could play Mullaghbawn and Killeavey to see who plays in Div 1 next year???

That would be the best option. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 06, 2010, 06:10:27 PM
your right El ps think i might have alright ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on January 06, 2010, 07:51:11 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 06, 2010, 12:06:43 PM
Maybe the 3rd and 4th teams from Division 2 last year could play Mullaghbawn and Killeavey to see who plays in Div 1 next year???
first i have herd about this lads tbh but i can remember when maghery got relegated for the first time in our history the co board changed the amount of teams in div 1 and we got to stay up after all . wasnt long till we were relegated again anyhow  >:( however there was no playof with any team from div 2. this was maybe 99 r so cant remember
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 07, 2010, 05:03:46 PM
Happy new year Umgola see you hovering in the background. Are you back training yet ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on January 08, 2010, 08:17:59 PM
See pintsofguinness made the media today.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Muhammed McCarthy on January 08, 2010, 09:12:19 PM
Quote from: the scenic route on January 08, 2010, 08:17:59 PM
See pintsofguinness made the media today.....

What a HERO MEMBER!!! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on January 08, 2010, 09:21:12 PM
Theres plenty of HEROES on the board.....

doing a bit wanderer!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 08, 2010, 10:16:26 PM
lads i know this is a bit of topic but could anyone name or tell me where i could find the 1968 minor squad that was defeated by Sligo in Croke park? any help would be useful
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ulick on January 09, 2010, 12:29:09 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 08, 2010, 10:16:26 PM
lads i know this is a bit of topic but could anyone name or tell me where i could find the 1968 minor squad that was defeated by Sligo in Croke park? any help would be useful

Call into the Irish News offices and they should be able to sort you out. The Linen Hall Library should have the back issues of the Irish Press which will have it or maybe even the Irish Times on-line archive (though I'd be sceptical about the latter). Otherwise ring the Anglo Celt (Cavan town) and ask them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 09, 2010, 01:04:33 AM
cheers lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Muhammed McCarthy on January 09, 2010, 06:34:35 PM
Lots of teams training away with renewed hope thanks to Ogs dethroning Cross.
Should make for an interesting championship this year, with Ogs out to retain, Cross to regain, and the likes of Dromintee, Clans, Harps and St. Pats all feeling they can win it.
I'll have a few pound on Dromintee ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 09, 2010, 07:04:29 PM
Quote from: Muhammed McCarthy on January 09, 2010, 06:34:35 PM
Lots of teams training away with renewed hope thanks to Ogs dethroning Cross.
Should make for an interesting championship this year, with Ogs out to retain, Cross to regain, and the likes of Dromintee, Clans, Harps and St. Pats all feeling they can win it.
I'll have a few pound on Dromintee ;)

after seeing cullyhanna last year against granemore i dont see them as a genuine threat
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 09, 2010, 07:25:12 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 09, 2010, 07:04:29 PM
Quote from: Muhammed McCarthy on January 09, 2010, 06:34:35 PM
Lots of teams training away with renewed hope thanks to Ogs dethroning Cross.
Should make for an interesting championship this year, with Ogs out to retain, Cross to regain, and the likes of Dromintee, Clans, Harps and St. Pats all feeling they can win it.
I'll have a few pound on Dromintee ;)

after seeing cullyhanna last year against granemore i dont see them as a genuine threat

You're some sage of wisdom being fit to judge a team's entire chances for the year on one match last year. Are Dromintee similarly ruled out of the reckoning?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on January 10, 2010, 11:50:32 AM
early predictions for league honours

div 1 cross ??? ru ogs
div2 harps    ru b`nab
div3 bridge   ru newtown
div4 a`more ru st pats 2nds ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 10, 2010, 12:25:15 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on January 10, 2010, 11:50:32 AM
early predictions for league honours

div 1 cross ??? ru ogs
div2 harps    ru b`nab
div3 bridge   ru newtown
div4 a`more ru st pats 2nds ;)

If St. Pats II get in then the Bridge and Newtown won't be in Div 3.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on January 10, 2010, 01:20:36 PM
i dont like to see 2 nd teams entering the league , i,d rather they form a reserve league while clubs can still have their b teams , just a thought   8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2010, 04:18:40 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 09, 2010, 07:25:12 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 09, 2010, 07:04:29 PM
Quote from: Muhammed McCarthy on January 09, 2010, 06:34:35 PM
Lots of teams training away with renewed hope thanks to Ogs dethroning Cross.
Should make for an interesting championship this year, with Ogs out to retain, Cross to regain, and the likes of Dromintee, Clans, Harps and St. Pats all feeling they can win it.
I'll have a few pound on Dromintee ;)

after seeing cullyhanna last year against granemore i dont see them as a genuine threat

You're some sage of wisdom being fit to judge a team's entire chances for the year on one match last year. Are Dromintee similarly ruled out of the reckoning?

saw pats v sarsfields 2 years ago in intermediate was very impressed with them.  felt last year that they had gone back wards.  felt with their good underage structure would be a genuine threat in 3 or 4 years if players continued to progress.  though dont rate them as a genuine contender at this stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 10, 2010, 04:29:20 PM
Can't make my mind up on the gentlemen tbh. Obviously if theyre considering a IIs team they've plenty of strength in depth, but that said they didn't set the world on fire any time I saw them last season.
I reckon the SFC will be won by Cross/Ogs/Harps/Dromintee, those four only.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2010, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on January 10, 2010, 11:50:32 AM
early predictions for league honours

div 1 cross ??? ru ogs
div2 harps    ru b`nab
div3 bridge   ru newtown
div4 a`more ru st pats 2nds ;)

div 1 cross ogs relegated culloville cruppen
div 2 killeavy harps. the nab should be a threat with mcparland and grugan available all year, granemore will challenge 2 i feel also.  relegated st peters ballyhagan
div 3 bridge newtown. 
div 4 annaghmore cross 2nds

interesting all 4 divisions represented in intermediate cship this year!anyone know when draws take place..

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 10, 2010, 04:39:09 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2010, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on January 10, 2010, 11:50:32 AM
early predictions for league honours

div 1 cross ??? ru ogs
div2 harps    ru b`nab
div3 bridge   ru newtown
div4 a`more ru st pats 2nds ;)

div 1 cross ogs relegated culloville cruppen
div 2 killeavy harps. the nab should be a threat with mcparland and grugan available all year, granemore will challenge 2 i feel also.  relegated st peters ballyhagan Wolfe Tones
div 3 bridge newtown. 
div 4 annaghmore cross 2nds

interesting all 4 divisions represented in intermediate cship this year!anyone know when draws take place..
Fixed that for you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 10, 2010, 04:48:08 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2010, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on January 10, 2010, 11:50:32 AM
early predictions for league honours

div 1 cross ??? ru ogs
div2 harps    ru b`nab
div3 bridge   ru newtown
div4 a`more ru st pats 2nds ;)

div 1 cross ogs relegated culloville cruppen
div 2 killeavy harps. the nab should be a threat with mcparland and grugan available all year, granemore will challenge 2 i feel also.  relegated st peters ballyhagan
div 3 bridge newtown. 
div 4 annaghmore cross 2nds

interesting all 4 divisions represented in intermediate cship this year!anyone know when draws take place..
yeah, ridiculous situation. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2010, 04:52:25 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 10, 2010, 04:48:08 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2010, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on January 10, 2010, 11:50:32 AM
early predictions for league honours

div 1 cross ??? ru ogs
div2 harps    ru b`nab
div3 bridge   ru newtown
div4 a`more ru st pats 2nds ;)
personally think downs structure good top division plus top 4 in div 2 make up senior then the rest is filtered down according to league positions.  think tirnanog trying drop down to intermediare a farce.beat clans 3 years ago,then beat by ogs and cross.nearly every team in senior would have suffered the same fate
div 1 cross ogs relegated culloville cruppen
div 2 killeavy harps. the nab should be a threat with mcparland and grugan available all year, granemore will challenge 2 i feel also.  relegated st peters ballyhagan
div 3 bridge newtown. 
div 4 annaghmore cross 2nds

interesting all 4 divisions represented in intermediate cship this year!anyone know when draws take place..
yeah, ridiculous situation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on January 10, 2010, 06:50:31 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2010, 04:18:40 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 09, 2010, 07:25:12 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 09, 2010, 07:04:29 PM
Quote from: Muhammed McCarthy on January 09, 2010, 06:34:35 PM
Lots of teams training away with renewed hope thanks to Ogs dethroning Cross.
Should make for an interesting championship this year, with Ogs out to retain, Cross to regain, and the likes of Dromintee, Clans, Harps and St. Pats all feeling they can win it.
I'll have a few pound on Dromintee ;)

after seeing cullyhanna last year against granemore i dont see them as a genuine threat

You're some sage of wisdom being fit to judge a team's entire chances for the year on one match last year. Are Dromintee similarly ruled out of the reckoning?

saw pats v sarsfields 2 years ago in intermediate was very impressed with them.  felt last year that they had gone back wards.  felt with their good underage structure would be a genuine threat in 3 or 4 years if players continued to progress.  though dont rate them as a genuine contender at this stage.
i also felt st pats would be a genuine threat as they have quality in most area,s , but they lose focus easily when they get involved in on/ off the ball stuff which i feel goes against them and does them no favours .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on January 10, 2010, 07:05:38 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2010, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on January 10, 2010, 11:50:32 AM


div 1 cross ogs relegated culloville cruppen
div 2 killeavy harps. the nab should be a threat with mcparland and grugan available all year, granemore will challenge 2 i feel also.  relegated st peters ballyhagan
div 3 bridge newtown. 
div 4 annaghmore cross 2nds

div 2
i feel granemore will struggle to reach the same heights as last season as they have 3 regulars abroard including t mc clelland, b toner .  plus k toner ,[ j o, neill if he makes the squad] on county duty . but hopefully with new management they will prove otherwise .

the nab should be thereabouts but i see a lot of their players including grugan playing soccer in the local mid ulster league which  might hinder their progress if they any pick up injuries .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 10, 2010, 09:34:08 PM
And lets be honest they get involved in a lot of the off the ball stuff and at the end of the game the other teams has a laugh and two points in the bag. Really a stupid approach to games when you train hard all year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tots on January 10, 2010, 10:07:55 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2010, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on January 10, 2010, 11:50:32 AM
early predictions for league honours

div 1 cross ??? ru ogs
div2 harps    ru b`nab
div3 bridge   ru newtown
div4 a`more ru st pats 2nds ;)

div 1 cross ogs relegated culloville cruppen
div 2 killeavy harps. the nab should be a threat with mcparland and grugan available all year, granemore will challenge 2 i feel also.  relegated st peters ballyhagan
div 3 bridge newtown. 
div 4 annaghmore cross 2nds

interesting all 4 divisions represented in intermediate cship this year!anyone know when draws take place..

fcuk clean aaaaaa KW we are stayin up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on January 11, 2010, 12:12:57 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 10, 2010, 04:48:08 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2010, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on January 10, 2010, 11:50:32 AM
early predictions for league honours

div 1 cross ??? ru ogs
div2 harps    ru b`nab
div3 bridge   ru newtown
div4 a`more ru st pats 2nds ;)

div 1 cross ogs relegated culloville cruppen
div 2 killeavy harps. the nab should be a threat with mcparland and grugan available all year, granemore will challenge 2 i feel also.  relegated st peters ballyhagan
div 3 bridge newtown. 
div 4 annaghmore cross 2nds

interesting all 4 divisions represented in intermediate cship this year!anyone know when draws take place..
yeah, ridiculous situation.
if the leagues stay the same the senior championship will be represented by 3 divisions with newtown in div 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 11, 2010, 09:29:27 AM
Quote from: pearseog on January 11, 2010, 12:12:57 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 10, 2010, 04:48:08 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2010, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on January 10, 2010, 11:50:32 AM
early predictions for league honours

div 1 cross ??? ru ogs
div2 harps    ru b`nab
div3 bridge   ru newtown
div4 a`more ru st pats 2nds ;)

div 1 cross ogs relegated culloville cruppen
div 2 killeavy harps. the nab should be a threat with mcparland and grugan available all year, granemore will challenge 2 i feel also.  relegated st peters ballyhagan
div 3 bridge newtown. 
div 4 annaghmore cross 2nds

interesting all 4 divisions represented in intermediate cship this year!anyone know when draws take place..
yeah, ridiculous situation.
if the leagues stay the same the senior championship will be represented by 3 divisions with newtown in div 3

Annaghmore are in div 4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 11, 2010, 10:40:56 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 11, 2010, 09:29:27 AM
Quote from: pearseog on January 11, 2010, 12:12:57 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 10, 2010, 04:48:08 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2010, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on January 10, 2010, 11:50:32 AM
early predictions for league honours

div 1 cross ??? ru ogs
div2 harps    ru b`nab
div3 bridge   ru newtown
div4 a`more ru st pats 2nds ;)

div 1 cross ogs relegated culloville cruppen
div 2 killeavy harps. the nab should be a threat with mcparland and grugan available all year, granemore will challenge 2 i feel also.  relegated st peters ballyhagan
div 3 bridge newtown. 
div 4 annaghmore cross 2nds

interesting all 4 divisions represented in intermediate cship this year!anyone know when draws take place..
yeah, ridiculous situation.
if the leagues stay the same the senior championship will be represented by 3 divisions with newtown in div 3

Annaghmore are in div 4

Since when were they a senior team?

On another note, who's this Shane O'Neills lad trialling for the Down minors?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 11, 2010, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 10, 2010, 09:34:08 PM
And lets be honest they get involved in a lot of the off the ball stuff and at the end of the game the other teams has a laugh and two points in the bag. Really a stupid approach to games when you train hard all year.

So we lose every game? Wonder how we're heading into a 3rd season in Division 1 then. Not sure how we could have stayed up with 0 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 11, 2010, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 11, 2010, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 10, 2010, 09:34:08 PM
And lets be honest they get involved in a lot of the off the ball stuff and at the end of the game the other teams has a laugh and two points in the bag. Really a stupid approach to games when you train hard all year.

So we lose every game? Wonder how we're heading into a 3rd season in Division 1 then. Not sure how we could have stayed up with 0 points.

I don't think it would matter how many points you got, sure look at Killeavey, they're not getting relegated either.   ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 11, 2010, 12:06:04 PM
cHAMPIONSHIP DRAWS this wednesday at county board meeting. Heard club chairmen met with the new county chair on saturday and where shown the plans for the final development at the athletic grounds and i have been told they look class. Contract awarded and work to start next week. Still think that the league and championship needs urgent review so that clubs can only compete in championship depending on divisional standing like they have inTyrone. Possiblly this could be looked at for 2011 where div1 plus 4 2nd div play in senior and so on in intermediate and junior leaving 16 in each championship. By winning junior or intermediate you could get divisional promotion think thats the way it works in tyrone and some other counties. this would stop silly things like newtown in the senior but playing in div3 and annaghmore in intermediate and playing div4.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 11, 2010, 12:40:02 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 11, 2010, 10:40:56 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 11, 2010, 09:29:27 AM
Quote from: pearseog on January 11, 2010, 12:12:57 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on January 10, 2010, 04:48:08 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2010, 04:37:10 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on January 10, 2010, 11:50:32 AM
early predictions for league honours

div 1 cross ??? ru ogs
div2 harps    ru b`nab
div3 bridge   ru newtown
div4 a`more ru st pats 2nds ;)

div 1 cross ogs relegated culloville cruppen
div 2 killeavy harps. the nab should be a threat with mcparland and grugan available all year, granemore will challenge 2 i feel also.  relegated st peters ballyhagan
div 3 bridge newtown. 
div 4 annaghmore cross 2nds

interesting all 4 divisions represented in intermediate cship this year!anyone know when draws take place..
yeah, ridiculous situation.
if the leagues stay the same the senior championship will be represented by 3 divisions with newtown in div 3

Annaghmore are in div 4

Since when were they a senior team?

apologies read this wrong

On another note, who's this Shane O'Neills lad trialling for the Down minors?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 11, 2010, 12:43:08 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on January 11, 2010, 12:06:04 PM
cHAMPIONSHIP DRAWS this wednesday at county board meeting. Heard club chairmen met with the new county chair on saturday and where shown the plans for the final development at the athletic grounds and i have been told they look class. Contract awarded and work to start next week. Still think that the league and championship needs urgent review so that clubs can only compete in championship depending on divisional standing like they have inTyrone. Possiblly this could be looked at for 2011 where div1 plus 4 2nd div play in senior and so on in intermediate and junior leaving 16 in each championship. By winning junior or intermediate you could get divisional promotion think thats the way it works in tyrone and some other counties. this would stop silly things like newtown in the senior but playing in div3 and annaghmore in intermediate and playing div4.

cant wait. the county chairman did indeed meet chairmen.  spoke to all the other officers also and spoke very well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 11, 2010, 02:01:04 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 11, 2010, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 10, 2010, 09:34:08 PM
And lets be honest they get involved in a lot of the off the ball stuff and at the end of the game the other teams has a laugh and two points in the bag. Really a stupid approach to games when you train hard all year.

So we lose every game? Wonder how we're heading into a 3rd season in Division 1 then. Not sure how we could have stayed up with 0 points.

Perhaps here lies the seeds to your clubs indiscipline. Ignoring the real matters at hand whilst at the same time trying to get one over on someone and play the hard done by case.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 11, 2010, 02:19:52 PM
Draw Predictions

Senior   Harps v Ogs, Cross v Dromintee, Granemore v Nab, St Pats v Clans, Killeavey v Mbawn, Clan eireann v Whitecross
           St Michaels v Carrickcruppin, Tir na og v Maghery ( wouldnt those draws get big gates). Lets wait and see.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on January 11, 2010, 03:00:12 PM
I heard that the work on the new seated and covered stand is due to start this week or next, does anyone know how long roughly it will take to complete? Also it would be good if the county board released these plans on their website or to the press so the grassroots can get a look at them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 11, 2010, 03:15:44 PM
The contract is for 40 weeks i am reliable informed from someone who was at saturdays meeting. Plans will be officially displayed at the meeting on wednesday night and probably on line after that im sure.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ti Chulainn on January 11, 2010, 03:33:42 PM
http://www.dromintee.com (http://www.dromintee.com)

Dromintee GAC Fight Night

SOLD OUT - our ticket allocation is now completely SOLD OUT

A few remaining tickets are on TICKETMASTER and once these are gone, that is it.

http://www.ticketmaster.co.uk/Dromintee-GAC-Fight-Night-tickets/artist/1018037

Many thanks to everyone who has supported us it should be a really good night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 11, 2010, 04:33:03 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 11, 2010, 02:01:04 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 11, 2010, 11:32:42 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 10, 2010, 09:34:08 PM
And lets be honest they get involved in a lot of the off the ball stuff and at the end of the game the other teams has a laugh and two points in the bag. Really a stupid approach to games when you train hard all year.

So we lose every game? Wonder how we're heading into a 3rd season in Division 1 then. Not sure how we could have stayed up with 0 points.

Perhaps here lies the seeds to your clubs indiscipline. Ignoring the real matters at hand whilst at the same time trying to get one over on someone and play the hard done by case.

Alternatively here lies the evidence that you are, as usual, talking nonsense.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on January 11, 2010, 05:07:19 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on January 11, 2010, 03:15:44 PM
The contract is for 40 weeks i am reliable informed from someone who was at saturdays meeting. Plans will be officially displayed at the meeting on wednesday night and probably on line after that im sure.

cheers. Seems a fairly quick turnaround, wonder what the seated capacity will be anyone any ideas?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 11, 2010, 05:24:49 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on January 11, 2010, 02:19:52 PM
Draw Predictions

Senior   Harps v Ogs, Cross v Dromintee, Granemore v Nab, St Pats v Clans, Killeavey v Mbawn, Clan eireann v Whitecross
           St Michaels v Carrickcruppin, Tir na og v Maghery ( wouldnt those draws get big gates). Lets wait and see.
Do you know something the rest of us don't?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 11, 2010, 07:10:17 PM
Fitz i,m always in for a bit of devilment. Hope i,m not correct for two reasons 1) dont really want to be lambasted again 2) i should have placed a bet and then i could retire :D Bainsteior made the call to one who knows,approx 5,600 covered seats in the new 2 tier stand, press box, 2 new changing rooms, first aid room and safety control room. sounds exciting ps with all seats being covered down to pitch level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 11, 2010, 08:07:42 PM
Will the Athletic Grounds be out of use during the redevelopment?

For example where will the Armagh league games be held?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 11, 2010, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 11, 2010, 08:07:42 PM
Will the Athletic Grounds be out of use during the redevelopment?

For example where will the Armagh league games be held?

Yes.

Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on January 11, 2010, 08:44:22 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on January 11, 2010, 07:10:17 PM
Fitz i,m always in for a bit of devilment. Hope i,m not correct for two reasons 1) dont really want to be lambasted again 2) i should have placed a bet and then i could retire :D Bainsteior made the call to one who knows,approx 5,600 covered seats in the new 2 tier stand, press box, 2 new changing rooms, first aid room and safety control room. sounds exciting ps with all seats being covered down to pitch level.

two teirs you say.. That's impressive!! So it nots goin to be simlilar to say Healy Park? It does sound exciting indeed.. About time we had the county facilities to be proud off!! Very encouraged with Stevie Macs interview today in the Irish news, sounds like he has got his hunger back and also any interviews with players since POR was appointed have been all very positive about his backroom team and the attitude they are taking!!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 11, 2010, 08:51:30 PM
Quote from: Bainisteoir on January 11, 2010, 08:44:22 PM
Very encouraged with Stevie Macs interview today in the Irish news, sounds like he has got his hunger back and also any interviews with players since POR was appointed have been all very positive about his backroom team and the attitude they are taking!!

He would be unlikely to be too critical of the backroom team considering the supposed effort he went to in order to get some of them in place.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 11, 2010, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on January 11, 2010, 07:10:17 PM
....approx 5,600 covered seats in the new 2 tier stand, press box, 2 new changing rooms, first aid room and safety control room. sounds exciting ps with all seats being covered down to pitch level.

Thats great news. Any idea when?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on January 11, 2010, 09:07:40 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 11, 2010, 08:51:30 PM
Quote from: Bainisteoir on January 11, 2010, 08:44:22 PM
Very encouraged with Stevie Macs interview today in the Irish news, sounds like he has got his hunger back and also any interviews with players since POR was appointed have been all very positive about his backroom team and the attitude they are taking!!

He would be unlikely to be too critical of the backroom team considering the supposed effort he went to in order to get some of them in place.
this^
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on January 11, 2010, 10:06:54 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 11, 2010, 08:51:30 PM
Quote from: Bainisteoir on January 11, 2010, 08:44:22 PM
Very encouraged with Stevie Macs interview today in the Irish news, sounds like he has got his hunger back and also any interviews with players since POR was appointed have been all very positive about his backroom team and the attitude they are taking!!

He would be unlikely to be too critical of the backroom team considering the supposed effort he went to in order to get some of them in place.

I didn't mean specifically him who was praising him, read an interview just before Xmas an interview where clarkie was singing their praises also, think it was in the Belfast tele. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on January 11, 2010, 11:53:45 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 11, 2010, 09:02:19 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on January 11, 2010, 07:10:17 PM
....approx 5,600 covered seats in the new 2 tier stand, press box, 2 new changing rooms, first aid room and safety control room. sounds exciting ps with all seats being covered down to pitch level.

Thats great news. Any idea when?

Work on the stand is due to start in the next couple of weeks, and it is hoped to have it finished this year. I would envisage that it will be not unlike the stand in Newry, i.e. very impressive at one end and then tapering down, due to the available ground on that side of the pitch narrowing rapidly into the top corner at the Dalton End.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on January 13, 2010, 11:46:34 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on January 11, 2010, 07:10:17 PM
Fitz i,m always in for a bit of devilment. Hope i,m not correct for two reasons 1) dont really want to be lambasted again 2) i should have placed a bet and then i could retire :D Bainsteior made the call to one who knows,approx 5,600 covered seats in the new 2 tier stand, press box, 2 new changing rooms, first aid room and safety control room. sounds exciting ps with all seats being covered down to pitch level.

Spot on Wanderer....seen todays Irish News. I see Seamus King mentioned that Clans will be next to get work done, do the clans have to provide any of the funds required for this project i wonder or will it be paid exclusively by the county board and grant schemes?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on January 13, 2010, 12:15:46 PM
so from what i hear the leagues are going to be restructured with 12 teams in each league. does it mean that all the team thyat went down stay in the same division as last year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: blewuporstuffed on January 13, 2010, 02:09:35 PM
who would be the tp 3/4 minor teams in armagh for the in-coming season?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 13, 2010, 02:21:01 PM
Prob looking at Harps/ Killeavy/ Cross and maybe St pats for the minor teams

Clans are starting work on Davitt in the next couple of weeks, The plans are to completely shift Davitt so as the bottom goals will now be at the old 21 yard line. In between the 21 and the clubhouse will be an all weather facility . After the new pitch is completed there are another two stages that deal with Changing rooms and another few things.

As a club we had to raise a certain portion of the money and i am happy to say that through a lot of hard work we got there, the rest is council grants and different stuff. But it looks the part. Only down side no homes games this year for the club. :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Bainisteoir on January 13, 2010, 03:04:50 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 13, 2010, 02:21:01 PM
Prob looking at Harps/ Killeavy/ Cross and maybe St pats for the minor teams

Clans are starting work on Davitt in the next couple of weeks, The plans are to completely shift Davitt so as the bottom goals will now be at the old 21 yard line. In between the 21 and the clubhouse will be an all weather facility . After the new pitch is completed there are another two stages that deal with Changing rooms and another few things.

As a club we had to raise a certain portion of the money and i am happy to say that through a lot of hard work we got there, the rest is council grants and different stuff. But it looks the part. Only down side no homes games this year for the club. :-\ :-\ :-\

What exactly will the county board be funding then? Plans sound great.. Fair play
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 13, 2010, 03:48:34 PM
Not 100% sure on the county boards input but i think it is a minimum as we have now secured the sole lease of the pitch for 99 years from the county board. Making us responsible for repairs and other issues.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 13, 2010, 04:07:16 PM
County Board are not contributing anything at all, they did sign it back to us so that in itself allowed us to apply for the grants. The first phase of our works will start within the next 3 weeks and it is as Winsam says...new pitch and a 3G (40mx35m) pitch beside the clubhouse.

2nd phase is the stadia safety which is a grant thru Sport NI. However if you have read the Irish News today you will discover that if this executive falls thru out next phase of works will suffer as £1 million will no doubt be put on hold, that phase of works consists of covered terracing down both sides of the new pitch with roughly 1000 seats to one side as well as disabled seating and toilets etc.

We have achieved our target for the 3rd phase and that was to raise 10% of the final costs for our new pavilion and changing rooms which has all the latest indoor hall, weights room, kitchen, creche etc. This will hopefull happen within the next 2-3 years but again who knows...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 13, 2010, 06:12:57 PM
Minor favs for next year would be cross as u16 champs 2008, ogs as u16 champs 2009 and r/u2008, harps minor champs 2009, killeavey 2009 u16 r/u, keady as 2008 u16 acl winners.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stiffler on January 13, 2010, 06:29:04 PM
Are the clans plans available for viewing anywhere on the net?

sounds impressive, fair play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 13, 2010, 07:44:56 PM
where clans playing home games this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 13, 2010, 07:51:36 PM
Quote from: stiffler on January 13, 2010, 06:29:04 PM
Are the clans plans available for viewing anywhere on the net?

sounds impressive, fair play.

No, we don't have them online anywhere but if you were close by there is a chart up in the club showing the proposed developmets
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 13, 2010, 07:55:41 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 13, 2010, 07:44:56 PM
where clans playing home games this year?

Possibly Clann Eireann but thats not official...i'd say mostly there but on occasion else where
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 13, 2010, 09:13:11 PM
Pearse Ogs v Mullaghbawn in the championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 13, 2010, 09:33:24 PM
Harps got a bye

Cruppen V Cross

Maghery V Clann Eireann
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 13, 2010, 10:29:17 PM
from OC

Armagh Senior Football Championship
1st Round
Maghery v Clann Eireann
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og
Ballymacnab v Killeavy
St Patrick's v Clan na Gael
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen
Whitecross v Dromintee
Granemore v St Michael's
Bye – Armagh Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 13, 2010, 10:32:01 PM
Armagh Intermediate Football Championship
1st Round
Sarsfields v Shane O'Neill's
Silverbridge v Middletown
St Peter's v An Port Mor
Ballyhegan v Keady
Madden v Wolfe Tone
Collegeland v Culloville
Byes – St Paul's & Tir na nÓg

Armagh Junior Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Eire Og v Dorsey Emmett's
Killean v Annaghmore
Grange v Phelim Brady's
1st Round
Clonmore v Forkhill
Killean or Annaghmore v Killeavy II
Derrynoose v Clady
Belleek v St Patrick's II
Mullaghbrack v O'Hanlon's
Corrinshego v Eire Og or Dorsey Emmett's
Lissummon v Tullysaran
Crossmaglen II v Grange or Phelim Brady's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 13, 2010, 10:39:20 PM
Armagh Under-21 Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Armagh Harps v St Paul's
St Patrick's v Madden
St John's v Clan na Gael
Pearse Og v St Brigid's
Ballymacnab v Killeavy
Maghery v Middletown
Granemore v Clann Eireann
Crossmaglen v Carrickcruppen
Silverbridge v Shane O'Neill's
1st named team has Home advantage
1st Round
Keady v Maghery or Middletown
Tir na nÓg v Crossmaglen or Carrickcruppen
Granemore or Clann Eireann v Ballymacnab or Killeavy
Eire Og v Wolfe Tone
St John's or Clan na Gael v Sarsfields
Armagh Harps or St Paul's v Silverbridge or Shane O'Neill's
Dromintee v Corrahill Blues
St Patrick's or Madden v Pearse Og or St Brigid's
1st name team has Home advantage
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 13, 2010, 10:41:47 PM
Has the making of a good first round for the SFC
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 13, 2010, 10:58:15 PM
What are the views on the ammended league setup? Killeavy and Mullabawn stay up after all!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 13, 2010, 11:01:54 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 13, 2010, 10:58:15 PM
What are the views on the ammended league setup? Killeavy and Mullabawn stay up after all!

No opinion either way on 2nds teams in the league, but not sure I agree with them competing in the Championship. Doesn't seem right that one club can have two Championships to look forward to.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 13, 2010, 11:07:13 PM
Is that the league sorted??? Did Killeavey and Mullaghbawn stay up?

If Killeavey II's beat Annaghmore then a local derby with Killean will be interesting :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on January 13, 2010, 11:11:27 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 13, 2010, 10:29:17 PM
from OC

Armagh Senior Football Championship
1st Round
Maghery v Clann Eireann
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og
Ballymacnab v Killeavy
St Patrick's v Clan na Gael
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen
Whitecross v Dromintee
Granemore v St Michael's
Bye – Armagh Harps

Some nice ties there... I'd be happy from an Ogs perspective although I know we won't get it all our way. I think Granemore will fancy their chances and Whitecross could prove tricky for Dromintee. St Pat's and Clan na Gael is the tie of the round though I feel. Feel sorry for Carrickcruppen though. They could be on the receiving end of a Cross backlash. Also the Harps just about to scrape through  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 13, 2010, 11:16:18 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 13, 2010, 11:07:13 PM
Is that the league sorted??? Did Killeavey and Mullaghbawn stay up?

If Killeavey II's beat Annaghmore then a local derby with Killean will be interesting :P
according to OC no teams were relegated. Regarding championship some tasty ties. Maghery v C/Eireann should be good, aswell as Clans and Pat's where both sides will fancy their chances. the nab and killeavy also looks interesting, but the rest of the ties i feel will be a bit one-sided, Cross, Ogs, Granemore and Dromintee (expecting big things) all looking likely winners.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 14, 2010, 09:09:55 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 13, 2010, 11:16:18 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 13, 2010, 11:07:13 PM
Is that the league sorted??? Did Killeavey and Mullaghbawn stay up?

If Killeavey II's beat Annaghmore then a local derby with Killean will be interesting :P
according to OC no teams were relegated. Regarding championship some tasty ties. Maghery v C/Eireann should be good, aswell as Clans and Pat's where both sides will fancy their chances. the nab and killeavy also looks interesting, but the rest of the ties i feel will be a bit one-sided, Cross, Ogs, Granemore and Dromintee (expecting big things) all looking likely winners.
expecting big things, they have for the last 12 years. Clubs have been asked to go and discuss the restructuring of the leagues into 4x 12 team divisions with no relegation from last years divisions i have just been told. it will be voted on at the next meeting. Think the Clans v St Pats will be a tasty game especially if you go by the love for each other on this board. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 14, 2010, 09:59:39 AM
Dunno where you are coming from with that Wanderer...Clans & St Pats have no history whatsoever, infact i personally would rather have the Cullyhanna lads than then rest of the South Armagh brigade. It is a known fact that some players from St Pats have enjoyed several nights out with the Clans lads in Lurgan many a night (i think one or two of them even scored with some Lurgan females them nights too :P :D :D for their sins)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 14, 2010, 10:24:32 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on January 14, 2010, 09:09:55 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 13, 2010, 11:16:18 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 13, 2010, 11:07:13 PM
Is that the league sorted??? Did Killeavey and Mullaghbawn stay up?

If Killeavey II's beat Annaghmore then a local derby with Killean will be interesting :P
according to OC no teams were relegated. Regarding championship some tasty ties. Maghery v C/Eireann should be good, aswell as Clans and Pat's where both sides will fancy their chances. the nab and killeavy also looks interesting, but the rest of the ties i feel will be a bit one-sided, Cross, Ogs, Granemore and Dromintee (expecting big things) all looking likely winners.
expecting big things, they have for the last 12 years. Clubs have been asked to go and discuss the restructuring of the leagues into 4x 12 team divisions with no relegation from last years divisions i have just been told. it will be voted on at the next meeting. Think the Clans v St Pats will be a tasty game especially if you go by the love for each other on this board. ;)

According to Orchard County, 4 divisions of 12 teams have been confirmed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 14, 2010, 12:03:59 PM
So this means Tir Na Nog have dropped out of the senior championship????  Times must be bad for them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 14, 2010, 12:35:25 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 14, 2010, 09:59:39 AM
Dunno where you are coming from with that Wanderer...Clans & St Pats have no history whatsoever, infact i personally would rather have the Cullyhanna lads than then rest of the South Armagh brigade. It is a known fact that some players from St Pats have enjoyed several nights out with the Clans lads in Lurgan many a night (i think one or two of them even scored with some Lurgan females them nights too :P :D :D for their sins)
Il you should refer to winsamsoon, dont start to bribe them big cullyhanna boys with your left overs :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 14, 2010, 12:42:41 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on January 14, 2010, 12:35:25 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 14, 2010, 09:59:39 AM
Dunno where you are coming from with that Wanderer...Clans & St Pats have no history whatsoever, infact i personally would rather have the Cullyhanna lads than then rest of the South Armagh brigade. It is a known fact that some players from St Pats have enjoyed several nights out with the Clans lads in Lurgan many a night (i think one or two of them even scored with some Lurgan females them nights too :P :D :D for their sins)
Il you should refer to winsamsoon, dont start to bribe them big cullyhanna boys with your left overs :D

Jasus them Cullyhanna men are brave if they take Lurgan women home...lol

Winsam just dislikes everyone FFS (even himself :D) but def no history there. What you get anytime you play St Pats is a hard physical game and sometimes certain guys may need to use methods to win the ball thats not in the rule book but sure what about it i'd do the same myself given half the chance...good bunch of lads that i have plenty of time for.

Come championship time it'll be dog eat dog and i and St Pats wouldn't have it any other way
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 14, 2010, 01:29:52 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 14, 2010, 12:42:41 PM
Jasus them Cullyhanna men are brave if they take Lurgan women home...lol
x2  :D
I'd say manys a cullyhanna man would meet his match in the form of a lurgan lady!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 14, 2010, 01:35:36 PM
Predictions

Armagh Intermediate Football Championship
1st Round
Sarsfields v Shane O'Neill's = Sarfields
Silverbridge v Middletown = Bridge
St Peter's v An Port Mor = St Peters
Ballyhegan v Keady = Keady
Madden v Wolfe Tone = Madden
Collegeland v Culloville = Culloville
Byes – St Paul's & Tir na nÓg

Armagh Junior Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Eire Og v Dorsey Emmett's =Eire Og
Killean v Annaghmore = Annaghmore
Grange v Phelim Brady's = Grange 
1st Round
Clonmore v Forkhill = Clonmore
Killean or Annaghmore v Killeavy II =Annaghmore
Derrynoose v Clady = Derrynoose
Belleek v St Patrick's II = Belleek
Mullaghbrack v O'Hanlon's = Mullaghbrack
Corrinshego v Eire Og or Dorsey Emmett's =Eire Og
Lissummon v Tullysaran = Tullysaran
Crossmaglen II v Grange or Phelim Brady's = Cross II

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 14, 2010, 01:37:54 PM
Predictions

Armagh Senior Football Championship
1st Round
Maghery v Clann Eireann = Maghery
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og = Ogs
Ballymacnab v Killeavy = Nab
St Patrick's v Clan na Gael = Draw St Pats Win replay
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen =Cross
Whitecross v Dromintee =Dromintee
Granemore v St Michael's= Granemore
Bye – Armagh Harps

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 14, 2010, 01:41:52 PM
Maghery v Clann Eireann = Clann Eireann
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og = Ogs
Ballymacnab v Killeavy = Killeavy
St Patrick's v Clan na Gael = Clans
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen =Cross
Whitecross v Dromintee =Dromintee
Granemore v St Michael's= Granemore

Armagh Intermediate Football Championship
1st Round
Sarsfields v Shane O'Neill's = Sarsfields
Silverbridge v Middletown = Bridge
St Peter's v An Port Mor = St Peters
Ballyhegan v Keady = Ballyhegan
Madden v Wolfe Tone = Tones
Collegeland v Culloville = Culloville
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 14, 2010, 01:43:23 PM
Am I right in saying that we now have a 15 team Senior championship, a 14 team intermediate championship and a 19 team Junior?

It'd make a lot more sense to have 3 championships of 16 teams each!

As for the draw, its tough for both our Senior and Junior sides, particularly the Juniors. I'd be happy enough with Clans though in a strange way even though its a hard draw. Obviously we'll be the outsiders on the basis that they'd have a great record against us - they win a fair percentage of games at Cullyhanna and we never win up there. That said, its the sort of game that is winnable if we're going reasonably well and perform on the day and if we were to beat an established championship side like Clans, it would provide a bit of momentum for the rest of the year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 14, 2010, 01:46:50 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 14, 2010, 01:43:23 PM
Am I right in saying that we now have a 15 team Senior championship, a 14 team intermediate championship and a 19 team Junior?

It'd make a lot more sense to have 3 championships of 16 teams each!
As for the draw, its tough for both our Senior and Junior sides, particularly the Juniors. I'd be happy enough with Clans though in a strange way even though its a hard draw. Obviously we'll be the outsiders on the basis that they'd have a great record against us - they win a fair percentage of games at Cullyhanna and we never win up there. That said, its the sort of game that is winnable if we're going reasonably well and perform on the day and if we were to beat an established championship side like Clans, it would provide a bit of momentum for the rest of the year.

I would have to agree, and i would also have 3 league divisions, and Tyrone has this system and it works a treat, with regards the 2nds teams, we should have an all county B League as opposed to North, Mid and south,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on January 14, 2010, 02:34:23 PM
we should have an all county B League as opposed to North, Mid and south,   

It that not happening since there the Mid Board is gone?




Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 14, 2010, 02:43:20 PM
I mean a proper All County reserve/B/Seconds league whatever you wish to call it without different areas North and South divisions,

In Tyrone they play their reserve matches before their senior matches, and its an all county league
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 14, 2010, 03:37:43 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on January 14, 2010, 02:34:23 PM
we should have an all county B League as opposed to North, Mid and south,   

It that not happening since there the Mid Board is gone?





Surprised there hasn't been more chat about that on the thread. What do you think of the move? I think it's a good one as it'll mix things up a bit at underage, playing different teams that you're used to playing year in and year out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 14, 2010, 03:55:02 PM
Does anyone have a full list of the Mid Clubs and which section they are in, North or South 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 14, 2010, 05:26:45 PM
The B league will be on a north / south region basis the same teams as the minor board once teams confirm their participation by this weekend
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on January 14, 2010, 05:49:24 PM
northern region teams; port mor,a`more,harps,b`hegan,clans,c`eireann,clonmore,c`land,eire og,grange,madden,maghery,m`brack,ogs,sarsfielfs,pauls,peters,tir na nog,t`sarron and tones.

southern;b`nab,bellek,cruppen,clady,c`shego,cross,culloville,d`nose,dorsey,d`tee,f`hill,g`more,keady,killeavy,l`summon,m`town,m`bawn,p bradys,o`hanlons,shanes,bridge,killean,st micks,st pats `w`+
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 14, 2010, 05:57:00 PM
Asked this over in OC, but no answer.

Does the addition of the two new seconds teams create a precedent whereby any club wanting to enter a seconds team has to be facilitated, or did Killeavy and Cullyhanna fulfil any specific criteria in order to get their teams entered? Just wondering, beacuse it could get a bit messy if Ogs, or Harps, or Clans, etc., decide down the line that they want to enter a seconds team too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 14, 2010, 06:24:53 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 14, 2010, 05:57:00 PM
Asked this over in OC, but no answer.

Does the addition of the two new seconds teams create a precedent whereby any club wanting to enter a seconds team has to be facilitated, or did Killeavy and Cullyhanna fulfil any specific criteria in order to get their teams entered? Just wondering, beacuse it could get a bit messy if Ogs, or Harps, or Clans, etc., decide down the line that they want to enter a seconds team too.

I don't think we fulfilled any particular criteria other than having to declare 25 first team players. I think we got in on the same basis Cross and Killeavy did in previous years - basically we wanted a team and could prove we had the resources to have one.

I don't think it necessarily gets messy if other clubs enter a seconds team. Why should it? If there has to be a 5th division so be it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 14, 2010, 06:39:09 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 14, 2010, 06:24:53 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 14, 2010, 05:57:00 PM
Asked this over in OC, but no answer.

Does the addition of the two new seconds teams create a precedent whereby any club wanting to enter a seconds team has to be facilitated, or did Killeavy and Cullyhanna fulfil any specific criteria in order to get their teams entered? Just wondering, beacuse it could get a bit messy if Ogs, or Harps, or Clans, etc., decide down the line that they want to enter a seconds team too.

I don't think we fulfilled any particular criteria other than having to declare 25 first team players. I think we got in on the same basis Cross and Killeavy did in previous years - basically we wanted a team and could prove we had the resources to have one.

I don't think it necessarily gets messy if other clubs enter a seconds team. Why should it? If there has to be a 5th division so be it.

Well that's kinda what I meant. It would require restructuring the leagues. It would also leave a very bloated Junior championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on January 15, 2010, 09:36:09 AM
Sorry maybe sum1 can help me out, i havent really been paying much attention to the board recently, but is this B league idea a reality or a discussion topic ie 2 section, North & South.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 15, 2010, 09:58:00 AM
Border R, the B league will be split into the 2 sections north and south on the same basis as the minor board with probually two divisions in each section to accomodate weaker teams or clubs who can only field 13 per game i think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on January 15, 2010, 11:03:02 AM
 Thanks wanderer. So when will this league start and when will the matches be played, in Mid-Armagh the B matches were traditionally played on a Wednesday evening. Who decides who the weaker teams are?

Definitely think this is a good idea, as long as the clubs grasp it. A proper run B league playing against teams you would come up against in the old leagues. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on January 15, 2010, 12:16:49 PM
The B matches will be played on Wed.nights . The B league will be run by County c.c.c. That is the senior board. The new minor board will run from minor down inc.minor c/ship. It is envisaged
that the minor c/ship will be graded,ie.minor c/ship, minor shield & minor plate.Thus giving the weaker teams the chance to win a c/ship at their own level. If all clubs buy into the new system honestly it will be a good thing for underage football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 15, 2010, 12:30:24 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on January 15, 2010, 12:16:49 PM
The B matches will be played on Wed.nights . The B league will be run by County c.c.c. That is the senior board. The new minor board will run from minor down inc.minor c/ship. It is envisaged
that the minor c/ship will be graded,ie.minor c/ship, minor shield & minor plate.Thus giving the weaker teams the chance to win a c/ship at their own level. If all clubs buy into the new system honestly it will be a good thing for underage football.

Will teams enter the minor shield or plate on the basis of when they exit the championship proper or will they be in a secondary competition from the beginning. Not sure it would be a positive step to deny any club a chance of a run in the "A" championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: KIDDO 4 on January 15, 2010, 01:16:12 PM
Lucozade Sport 2010 Armagh Senior Football Championship
Maghery
V
Clann EIreann
Mullaghbawn
V
Pearse Og
Ballymacnab
V
Killeavy
St Patricks
V
Clan na Gael
Carrickcruppen
V
Crossmaglen
Whitecross
V
Dromintee
Granemore
V
St Michaels
Armagh Harps
V
Bye
Lucozade Sport 2010 Armagh Intermediate Football Championship
Sarsfields
V
Shane O'Neills
Silverbridge
V
Middletown
St Peters
V
An Port Mor
Ballyhegan
V
Keady
Madden
V
Wolfe Tones
Collegeland
V
Culloville
St Pauls
V
Bye
Tir na nOg
V
Bye
Lucozade Sport 2010 Armagh Junior Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Eire Og
V
Dorsey Emmets
Killean
V
Annaghmore
Grange
V
Phelim Bradys
First Round
Clonmore
V
Forkhill
Killean/Annaghmore
V
Killeavy II
Derrynoose
V
Clady
Belleeks
V
St Patricks II
Mullabrack
v
O'Hanlons
Corrinshego
v
Eire Og/Dorsey
Lissummon
v
Tullysaran
Crossmaglen II
V
Grange/Phelim Bradys
Lucozade Sport 2010 Armagh U21 Football Championship
Preliminary Round
Armagh Harps
V
St Pauls
St Patricks Cullyhanna
V
Madden
St Johns
V
Clan na Gael
Pearse Og
V
St Bridgids
Ballymacnab
V
Killeavy
Maghery
V
Middletown
Granemore
V
Clann Eireann
Crossmaglen
V
Carrickcruppen
Silverbridge
v
Shane O'Neills
First Round
Keady
v
Maghery/Middletown
Tir na nOg
V
Crossmaglen/Carrickcruppen
Granemore/Clann EIreann
V
Ballymacnab/Killeavy
Eire Og
v
Wolfe Tones
St Johns/Clan na Gael
V
Sarsfields
Harps/St Pauls
V
Silverbridge/Shane O'Neills
Dromintee
V
Corrakhill Blues
St Pats/Madden
v
Pearse Og/St Brigids



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 15, 2010, 02:02:35 PM
Thanks Kiddo but have already got these. I know that a number of clubs have suggested that every club can intially enter the main underage championship and the teams exiting first can enter a shield and next defeated teams a plate competion. sounds a good idea with a little tweaking.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 15, 2010, 03:36:14 PM
Armagh Senior Football Championship
1st Round
Maghery v Clann Eireann = Maghery
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og = Ogs
Ballymacnab v Killeavy = Killeavy
St Patrick's v Clan na Gael = clans by 3 and probably a boxing match wanderer ;D ;D ;)
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen =Cross
Whitecross v Dromintee =Whitecross
Granemore v St Michael's= Granemore
Bye – Armagh Harps



What ever happened to Cullyhanna getting punished for striking the ref in last years championship ?????? Was this just swept under the carpet???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on January 15, 2010, 03:44:13 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 15, 2010, 03:36:14 PM
Armagh Senior Football Championship
1st Round
Maghery v Clann Eireann = Maghery
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og = Ogs
Ballymacnab v Killeavy = Killeavy
St Patrick’s v Clan na Gael = clans by 3 and probably a boxing match wanderer ;D ;D ;)
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen =Cross
Whitecross v Dromintee =Whitecross
Granemore v St Michael’s= Granemore
Bye – Armagh Harps



What ever happened to Cullyhanna getting punished for striking the ref in last years championship ?????? Was this just swept under the carpet???

Yip thats the armagh way, under that big carpet.

This lack of serious punishment on the county boards behalf would see as an encouragement for other teams to go round acting like animals on gaelic fields.

Anyway my predictions:
Maghery v Clann Eireann = Maghery
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og = Ogs
Ballymacnab v Killeavy = Killeavy
St Patrick's v Clan na Gael = Clans   
Carrickcruppen v Crossmaglen =Cross
Whitecross v Dromintee =Dromintee
Granemore v St Michael's= Granemore
Bye – Armagh Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on January 15, 2010, 03:46:38 PM
i heard last night that the minor board was going to be incharge of the b leagues!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 15, 2010, 04:22:25 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 15, 2010, 03:36:14 PM
What ever happened to Cullyhanna getting punished for striking the ref in last years championship ?????? Was this just swept under the carpet???
Instead we get another cullyhanna team put into the leagues for our troubles  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 15, 2010, 05:23:45 PM
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on January 15, 2010, 03:44:13 PM
Yip thats the armagh way, under that big carpet.

This lack of serious punishment on the county boards behalf would see as an encouragement for other teams to go round acting like animals on gaelic fields.

Well in fairness, both Mullaghbawn and Tullysaran were bucked out of the U21 for that shite.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 15, 2010, 07:40:39 PM
Just to introduce a couple of facts (not that they are ever particularly welcomed by some posters), we were put out of the championship. As I understand it, it emerged in appeal that we couldn't be put out of the championship without removing us from all senior competition. The county board felt (rightly in my view but then I would say that) that such a punishment would be overly harsh given that the incident didn't involve any of the players who would find themselves without football. The person who struck the referee is suspended for 2 years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 15, 2010, 08:11:10 PM
Whereas if a player had struck the referee he would have got a lifetime ban.  typical
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on January 15, 2010, 09:28:14 PM
If a player strikes a referee he will get the same  penalty as a spectator. 2 years, unless he has done it before. Anyone who strikes a ref. deserves all he gets.

armagh leg end.The senior ccc will be running the B league, the minor board only run from minor down,inc the minor c/ship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on January 15, 2010, 09:36:08 PM
Just noticed a couple of posts regarding the minor c/ship. If a club cant field 15 players plus subs
in minor leagues how would they field a team that would have a realistic hope of winning a c/ship against stronger teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 15, 2010, 10:28:21 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on January 15, 2010, 08:11:10 PM
Whereas if a player had struck the referee he would have got a lifetime ban.  typical

A lifetime ban is 2 years. So what's typical?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 16, 2010, 12:25:26 PM
Firstly i am glad you cleared that up for us TAC because i hadn't heard anything from it since the initial speculation that Cullyhanna would be thrown out of the championship.

Secondly i think it is unfair to punish an entire team and club because of the silly actions of one individual who looses the head so in this sense the common sense approach has eventually been used

Thirdly i don't think it helps when we have the county board deciding that the cub should be thrown out of the championship only to reverse the decision (If i have understood this right) They should take more time to make decisions of such importance because it sets a precident for incidents in the future. I'm glad Cullyhanna were allowed into the championship because there are a lot of good lads there and it would be unfair on them lads.

Hope you loose in the championship though  :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 16, 2010, 01:00:48 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 15, 2010, 10:28:21 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on January 15, 2010, 08:11:10 PM
Whereas if a player had struck the referee he would have got a lifetime ban.  typical

A lifetime ban is 2 years. So what's typical?

Well if that's the case then I've no argument.  The issue of the length of a lifetime ban would not be something that I would be personally familiar with.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: only1clansinlurgan on January 16, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
1st post on the site lads... have ta say there are sum gud factual info on the site and sum ppl just really talk crap.. bet ya they r da boys who stand in da stands shoutin abuse at players wen theyre tryna play for there club..

by the way winsam ur flying in these circuits saan 8) 8) :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 16, 2010, 05:55:40 PM
Welcome to the board only1clansinlurgan.  As one Clans man leaves another one takes his place  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: McMonkfish on January 16, 2010, 06:55:22 PM
in the words of el cuervo please stop using phone text when you are speaking, you must have read trainspotting the book, are you sure you're not related to the wanderer because you speak like that fool while sitting outside superfry on a saturday night eating battered sausages drinking cans of stagaer
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 16, 2010, 08:58:20 PM
Quote from: only1clansinlurgan on January 16, 2010, 02:25:07 PM
1st post on the site lads... have ta say there are sum gud factual info on the site and sum ppl just really talk crap.. bet ya they r da boys who stand in da stands shoutin abuse at players wen theyre tryna play for there club..

by the way winsam ur flying in these circuits saan 8) 8) :P

Piss off with the text speak sonny.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 16, 2010, 11:36:56 PM
ne wrd on d match 2day dwn in xmg ladz, un4tun8ly cdnt make it. hu playd wel etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: only1clansinlurgan on January 17, 2010, 11:55:08 AM
sorry lads.. if you want me to use proper english when posting on the blog use pearse og bhoys wont understand it anyhow as your vocabulary doesnt stretch that far.. maybe you dont even understand this.. :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on January 17, 2010, 01:11:38 PM
Quote from: only1clansinlurgan on January 17, 2010, 11:55:08 AM
sorry lads.. if you want me to use proper english when posting on the blog use pearse og bhoys wont understand it anyhow as your vocabulary doesnt stretch that far.. maybe you dont even understand this.. :'( :'( :'(

Funny someone from Lurgan saying that... by the way the ones mouthing in the stands, sounds like Clans supporters!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Dannymcfella on January 17, 2010, 02:49:42 PM
Quote from: only1clansinlurgan on January 17, 2010, 11:55:08 AM
sorry lads.. if you want me to use proper english when posting on the bloguse pearse og bhoys wont understand it anyhow as your vocabulary doesnt stretch that far.. maybe you dont even understand this.. :'( :'( :'(
lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 17, 2010, 03:36:14 PM
monkfish what an appropriate name judging by your looks. think it is u sitting outside marcos at nite goin by the size of your gut. ps your identity has already been sussed. dont think you have much to offer pearse ogs. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 17, 2010, 03:41:41 PM
Quote from: only1clansinlurgan on January 17, 2010, 11:55:08 AM
sorry lads.. if you want me to use proper english when posting on the blog use pearse og bhoys wont understand it anyhow as your vocabulary doesnt stretch that far.. maybe you dont even understand this.. :'( :'( :'(
good to see you got the stolen lap tap working. and connection to the web must be an exciting experience, but i suppose you'll have to leave your mates house soon and return to Beirut. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kevin Webster on January 17, 2010, 04:57:16 PM
Who would win in a fight between ogs and clans?
Who would win in a drinking contest?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 17, 2010, 05:24:09 PM
Have to say lads the older posters on this thread got this shite talk out of the way within the first 5 pages so can we stick to the gaa debates and stop with the mullah talk
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: McMonkfish on January 17, 2010, 05:32:25 PM
you keep making these assumptions wanderer, u would know more about a fish supper you clown haha u deserve 6 stagaer for those remarks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on January 17, 2010, 07:49:17 PM
Quote from: Kevin Webster on January 17, 2010, 04:57:16 PM
Who would win in a fight between ogs and clans?
Who would win in a drinking contest?

Great amount of respect you have for yourself there Kevin, lovely first posts and a great County Name you live in.

I know who'd win a football game though, Ogs, cuz yous make shite look good
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on January 17, 2010, 07:57:56 PM
Quote from: Kevin Webster on January 17, 2010, 04:57:16 PM
Who would win in a fight between ogs and clans?
Who would win in a drinking contest?

That's the sort of childish crap that used to be thrown about the Orchardcounty website when it first started.  They've done a good job of getting rid of it over there, looks like this board has inherited the cast offs recently
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: McMonkfish on January 17, 2010, 09:09:51 PM
i agree el cuervo children these days are easily amused
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 17, 2010, 10:02:17 PM
greg mcgonagle confirmed as tones manager for the year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 18, 2010, 10:34:02 AM
why have u joined this board mc monkfish ur only in and ur talking and acting like a child. if its too hot in the kitchen then get out of it. Think ur best suited on the old orchard board. I know ur eventually goin to let the ogs down on this board so follow the sensible route like el cuervo with ur posts and dont get involved with someone u dont know but who knows u.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: McMonkfish on January 19, 2010, 01:20:23 AM
haha happy new year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Glensman on January 19, 2010, 11:14:37 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 17, 2010, 10:02:17 PM
greg mcgonagle confirmed as tones manager for the year

Sorry I am only coming to this - who are the Tones?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on January 19, 2010, 12:40:28 PM
were any of ye at the match on sunday?? any reports on who played well?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 118cmal on January 19, 2010, 12:44:11 PM
How did Brian McCone do at the weekend?  I hear he's a very underrated footballer who was very good for the nabb in recent years.  Does he have a chance of starting in the league/championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 19, 2010, 01:30:47 PM
Quote from: Glensman on January 19, 2010, 11:14:37 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 17, 2010, 10:02:17 PM
greg mcgonagle confirmed as tones manager for the year

Sorry I am only coming to this - who are the Tones?

Wolfe Tones, division 2 team in armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 19, 2010, 01:33:24 PM
Charlie is that Gregory Mc Gonigle from Dungiven Sur,  did he look after the county ladies team?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 19, 2010, 01:36:37 PM
thats him onion bag.  hearing good reports from whoever i have spoken to
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 19, 2010, 02:09:29 PM
Quote from: 118cmal on January 19, 2010, 12:44:11 PM
How did Brian McCone do at the weekend?  I hear he's a very underrated footballer who was very good for the nabb in recent years.  Does he have a chance of starting in the league/championship?

McCone did ok, didn't get great service. Got a goal.
I thought Tony Kernan was showing well, before he went off.
Ronan Austin did quite well, & picked up a lot of ball. Joe Feeney similarly, though faded in the 2nd half...

Mickey Mac was lively when introduced also.

Forwards seemed to get blocked a lot. I'm not sure weather it was good defending or wrong option taking, probs both.

Fair play till the Dromintee lads for playing & then boxing that nihgt...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 19, 2010, 08:43:25 PM
Goats they are footballers first and i wouldn't have expected anything different. Heard it was a good nite all the same fair play to the organisers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on January 21, 2010, 04:55:23 PM
any report on last nights match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 21, 2010, 06:49:15 PM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on January 21, 2010, 04:55:23 PM
any report on last nights match?

Try the other section of the board.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 21, 2010, 07:00:20 PM
sharpen up berf this is the club thread, check out the main gaa thread ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 22, 2010, 09:57:37 AM
   ARMAGH FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS 2010               
                  
SENIOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP                  

ROUND 1            VENUE      DATE
                  
ST PATRICKS   V   CLAN NA GAEL      ABBEY PARK      15TH AUGUST
                  
WHITECROSS   V   DROMINTEE      CARRICKCRUPPIN      13TH AUGUST
                  
MAGHERY   V   CLANN EIREANN      DERRYTRASNA      14TH AUGUST
                  
MULLAGHBAWN   V   PEARSE OG      CULLYHANNA      14TH AUGUST
                  
GRANEMORE   V   ST MICHAELS      KEADY      15TH AUGUST
                  
CARRICKCRUPPEN   V   CROSSMAGLEN      SILVERBRIDGE      15TH AUGUST
                  
BALLYMACNAB   V   KILLEAVY      WHITECROSS      16TH AUGUST
                  

ROUND 2            VENUE      DATE
                  
   V               4TH & 5TH
                  
   V               SEPTEMBER
                  
   V               4TH & 5TH
                  
   V               SEPTEMBER
                  
                  
SEMI - FINALS            VENUE      DATE
                  
   V               25TH & 26TH
                  
   V               SEPTEMBER
                  
                  
FINAL            VENUE      DATE
                  
   V               17TH OCTOBER


                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  

   ARMAGH FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS 2010               
                  
INTERMEDIATE FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP                  
                  
ROUND 1            VENUE      DATE
                  
ST PETERS   V   AN PORT MOR      MAGHERY      23RD JULY
                  
SILVERBRIDGE   V   MIDDLETOWN      GRANEMORE      23RD JULY
                  
MADDEN   V   WOLFE TONES      PORTADOWN      24TH JULY
                  
SARSFIELDS   V   SHANE O'NEILLS      PEARSE OG PARK      25TH JULY
                  
BALLYHEGAN   V   KEADY      PEARSE OG PARK      25TH JULY
                   
COLLEGELAND   V   CULLAVLLE      BALLYMACNAB      25TH JULY
                  
                  
ROUND 2            VENUE      DATE
                  
   V               6TH / 7TH / 8TH / 9TH
                  
   V               AUGUST
                  
   V               6TH / 7TH / 8TH / 9TH
                  
   V               AUGUST
                  
                  
SEMI - FINALS            VENUE      DATE
                  
   V               28TH / 29TH
                  
   V               AUGUST
                  
                  
FINAL            VENUE      DATE
                  
   V               3RD OCTOBER
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
                  
   ARMAGH FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS 2010               
                  
JUNIOR FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP                  
                  
PRE - ROUND             VENUE      DATE
                  
Eire Og   V   Dorsey Emmets      LISUMMON      16TH JULY
                  
Killean   V   Annaghmore      MULLABRACK      17TH JULY
                  
Grange   V   Phelim Bradys      AN PORT MOR      19TH JULY
                  
ROUND 1            VENUE      DATE
                  
Clonmore   V   Forkhill      GRANEMORE      30TH JULY
                  
Derrynoose   V   Clady      MIDDLETOWN      30TH JULY
                  
Killean / Annaghmore   V   Killeavey II      D'TEE / B'NAB      31ST JULY
                  
Belleek   V   St Patricks II      MULLAGHBAWN      31ST JULY
                  
Corrinshego   v   Eire Og/Dorsey      M'BRACK / M'BAWN      1ST AUGUST
                  
Lissummon   v   Tullysaran      MADDEN      1ST AUGUST
                  
Crossmaglen II   V   Grange/Phelim Bradys      KEADY / NTHAMILTON      1ST AUGUST
                  
Mullabrack   v   O'Hanlons      WHITECROSS      2ND AUGUST
                  
ROUND 2            VENUE      DATE
                  
   V               20TH / 21ST / 29TH
                  
   V               AUGUST
                  
   V               20TH / 21ST / 29TH
                  
   V               AUGUST
                  
                  
SEMI - FINALS            VENUE      DATE
                  
   V               11TH / 12TH
                  
   V               SEPTEMBER
                  
                  
FINAL            VENUE      DATE
                  
   V               10TH OCTOBER
                  
   ARMAGH FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS 2010               
                  
UNDER 21 FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP                  
                  
ROUND 1            VENUE      DATE
                  
ARMAGH HARPS   V   ST PAULS            28TH APRIL
ST PATRICKS    V   MADDEN            28TH APRIL
ST JOHNS   V   CLAN NA GAEL            28TH APRIL
PEARSE OG   V   ST BRIDGIDS            28TH APRIL
BALLYMACNAB   V   KILLEAVY            28TH APRIL
MAGHERY   V   MIDDLETOWN            28TH APRIL
GRANEMORE   V   CLANN EIREANN            28TH APRIL
CROSSMAGLEN   V   CARRICKCRUPPEN            28TH APRIL
SILVERBRIDGE   V   SHANE O'NEILLS            28TH APRIL
                  
ROUND 2            VENUE      DATE
                  
KEADY   V   MAGHERYor               MIDDLETOWN            5TH MAY
                  
TIR NA NOG   V   CROSSMAGLEN or CARRICKCRUPPEN            5TH MAY
                  
GRANEMORE or               CLANN EIREANN   V   BALLYMACNAB or KILLEAVY            5TH MAY
                  
ST JOHNS or                         CLAN NA GAEL   V   SARSFIELDS            5TH MAY
                  
ARMAGH HARPS or         ST PAULS   V   SILVERBRIDGE or SHANE O'NEILLS            5TH MAY
                  
ST PATRICKS or                   MADDEN   V   PEARSE OG or              ST BRIDGIDS            5TH MAY
                  
DROMINTEE   V   CORRAKHILL BLUES            5TH MAY
                  
EIRE OG   V   WOLFE TONES            5TH MAY
                  
ROUND 3            VENUE      DATE
                  
   V               12TH MAY
                  
   V               12TH MAY
                  
   V               12TH MAY
                  
   V               12TH MAY
                  
SEMI - FINALS            VENUE      DATE
                  
   V               19TH MAY
                  
   V               19TH MAY
                  
FINAL            VENUE      DATE
                  
   V               5TH JUNE
                  


   ARMAGH FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIPS 2010               
                  
B' FOOTBALL CHAMPIONSHIP                  
                  
ROUND 1            VENUE      DATE

PEARSE OG   V   ST. PETER'S            2ND JUNE
CROSSMAGLEN   V   ANNAGHMORE            2ND JUNE
ST. PAUL'S   V   GRANEMORE            2ND JUNE
MAGHERY   V   DROMINTEE            2ND JUNE
ST. PATRICKS   V   WOLFE TONES            2ND JUNE
SILVERBRIDGE   V   CLAN NA GAEL            2ND JUNE
CARRICKCRUPPIN   V   MULLABAWN            2ND JUNE
MIDDLETOWN   V   COLLEGELAND            2ND JUNE
SARSFIELDS   V   BALLYHEGAN            2ND JUNE
BALLYMACNAB   V   GRANGE            2ND JUNE
CLANN EIREANN   V   CULLAVILLE            2ND JUNE
ARMAGH HARPS   V   MADDEN            2ND JUNE

ROUND 2            VENUE      DATE
                  
   V               23RD JUNE
                  
   V               23RD JUNE
                  
   V               23RD JUNE
                  
   V               23RD JUNE
                  
   V               23RD JUNE
                  
   V               23RD JUNE
                  
   V               23RD JUNE
                  
   V               23RD JUNE


SEMI - FINALS            VENUE      DATE
                  
   V               7TH JULY
                  
   V               7TH JULY
                  

FINAL            VENUE      DATE
                  
   V               8TH AUGUST


PRE-ROUND BYE: EIRE OG / KEADY / TIR NA NOG / TULLYSARAN /                   




         B' LEAGUE          

SECTION: A      SECTION: B      SECTION: C      SECTION: D

CLAN NA GAEL      ANNAGHMORE      BALLYMACNAB      CARRICKRUPPIN
                  
CLANN EIREANN      BALLYHEGAN      BELLEEK      DROMINTEE

MAGHERY      GRANGE      GRANEMORE      CULLAVILLE

ST. PAUL'S      MADDEN      KEADY      CROSSMAGLEN

ST. PETER'S      AN PORT MOR      MIDDLETOWN      MULLABAWN

SARSFIELDS      TULLYSARAN      WHITECROSS      ST. PATRICK'S

TIR NA NOG      COLLEGELAND      ST. JOSEPH'S      SHANE O'NEILLS

WOLFE TONES      PEARSE OG      ST. MICHAEL'S      SILVERBRIDGE

EIRE OG      ARMAGH HARPS            


Section A Winners v Section B Runners Up            Section C Winners v Section D Runners Up

Section A Runners Up v Section B Winners            Section C Runners Up v Section D Winners

Winners then play in Northern Region Final            Winners then play in Southern Region Final

      Winners of both Regions play in All County Final      
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 22, 2010, 10:25:13 AM
I would pressume then now that the Athletics grounds is closed that the senior final will be played at Cross again????????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 22, 2010, 10:36:58 AM
not sure win!one thing for sure is that robbie tasker get a hard time of yours truely in the reserve championship lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 22, 2010, 12:20:57 PM
Win i know that the county board are keen to have the athletic grounds available for the county final as the crowd attending will be bigger than if it is in cross. They will be trying to have it reopened in time for oct final and have stated that this is their prefered venue. Hurry up main contractor.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: only1clansinlurgan on January 22, 2010, 02:32:17 PM
lads.. if ur club av entered the ulster league the fixtures are no availible.. just letting use no.

www.ulstergaa.ie

cruppin r def out :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kevin Webster on January 22, 2010, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 22, 2010, 10:36:58 AM
not sure win!one thing for sure is that robbie tasker get a hard time of yours truely in the reserve championship lol
I hear cullyhanna have earmarked yourself as the dangerman on the wolfe tones reserve side!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 23, 2010, 01:07:50 PM
Is the McKenna cup match tomorrow definitely on in the Athletic Grounds, and not Crossmaglen?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on January 24, 2010, 07:11:16 AM
Must be, because in Tue`s Irish News they gave parking instructions?directions for fermanagh people coming to the game, They would`nt tell them to park in Armagh,and walk to Cross. Would they? :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: FermPundit on January 24, 2010, 08:08:36 PM
When the Athletic grounds was redeveloped, was a new pitch laid? It wasn't looking great today.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on January 24, 2010, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on January 24, 2010, 08:08:36 PM
When the Athletic grounds was redeveloped, was a new pitch laid? It wasn't looking great today.

I think a pitch was led a few years before it opened. It is to close again now for 40 weeks for new stand. Pitch must now be one of worst about. Maybe the break will help get it sorted.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: FermPundit on January 24, 2010, 08:21:48 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on January 24, 2010, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on January 24, 2010, 08:08:36 PM
When the Athletic grounds was redeveloped, was a new pitch laid? It wasn't looking great today.

I think a pitch was led a few years before it opened. It is to close again now for 40 weeks for new stand. Pitch must now be one of worst about. Maybe the break will help get it sorted.

Is the new stand to be built at the side where the orange seats are at the moment?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on January 24, 2010, 08:25:27 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on January 24, 2010, 08:21:48 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on January 24, 2010, 08:15:39 PM
Quote from: FermPundit on January 24, 2010, 08:08:36 PM
When the Athletic grounds was redeveloped, was a new pitch laid? It wasn't looking great today.

I think a pitch was led a few years before it opened. It is to close again now for 40 weeks for new stand. Pitch must now be one of worst about. Maybe the break will help get it sorted.

Is the new stand to be built at the side where the orange seats are at the moment?

Yes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 25, 2010, 08:57:25 AM
What do yous think about the newcomers/ retried players making the cut as senior county players. on yesterdays performances o,neill ( no chance) feeney (wing mirrors required no chance) mc namee ( potential, needs to release ball quicker.) austin ( def think he is one to work with, 4 clean catches good prospect ) o neill ( dont know if he is halfback, give another chance and position) mackin ( yes ) lavery ( very cumberson and gives the ball away too much).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: StGallsGAA on January 25, 2010, 04:15:56 PM
QuoteWhen the Athletic grounds was redeveloped, was a new pitch laid? It wasn't looking great today.

I think a pitch was led a few years before it opened. It is to close again now for 40 weeks for new stand. Pitch must now be one of worst about. Maybe the break will help get it sorted.

That 'pitch' is shite shocking, wouldnt be that way if the 'groundsman' did his job.
Callanbridge is nowhere near being called a pitch either, was on it today and its piss

It's hardly the groundman's fault that the scum who smash bottles and pour oil, weedkiller etc on the field every weekend are still doing it week in, week out.

Despite your avatar I doubt if you are a Cuchulainns player or you would know that and wouldn be blaming the groundsman who does a sterling job lifting the broken glass twice a week for no reward.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 25, 2010, 06:01:52 PM
Stgalls you obviosly are not aware that the groundsmen are paid (employees). Yes i agree that vandalism has been an issue around the ground but the local community group have been doing a good job to curtail it. The main problem lies with pitch which is not maintained by a proper ground specialist contractor like most club pitches are but rather by a local grasss cutter and groundsman with a spade and shovel who dont know the first thing about maintaining grounds. They cant even be bothered to remove the goal nets after each game which is common practice in most club grounds never mind county grounds, which would help stop local children kicking in and out of them. Another small matter is that the flags at each goal and sideline havent been washed from they were bought goin by yesterdays state of them. Now that we have a new chairman on board im sure he will clean the issues of the care of the pitch and people (groundsmen) up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 27, 2010, 03:55:37 PM
Minister Richie (think thats how you spell her name) cut the first sod off Davitt Park today, so work is under way and if all goes to plan the 1st phase of works should be complete by the end of April and the new pitch will be available for the start of the 2011 league campaign (hopefully in Div 1 ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: only1clansinlurgan on January 27, 2010, 05:23:35 PM
take your face 4 a few sprints there saan.. we will be in division 1.. :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on January 27, 2010, 07:06:36 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on January 25, 2010, 08:57:25 AM
What do yous think about the newcomers/ retried players making the cut as senior county players. on yesterdays performances o,neill ( no chance) feeney (wing mirrors required no chance) mc namee ( potential, needs to release ball quicker.) austin ( def think he is one to work with, 4 clean catches good prospect ) o neill ( dont know if he is halfback, give another chance and position) mackin ( yes ) lavery ( very cumberson and gives the ball away too much).
[/quote
d parkinson [ no ] , s o,neill [ no ] ,watters [ no ] , feeney [ no ], j o,neill [ no ] , mc gee [ no ] ,
mc cone [ no ] , austin [ no ] , mc namee  :-\ , henderson  :-\ dyas  :-\ mackin  :-\ , does,nt leave a lot to work with but a lot of these players have not been able to transform club form to county football  8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 27, 2010, 07:48:06 PM
Quote from: torres on January 27, 2010, 07:06:36 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on January 25, 2010, 08:57:25 AM
What do yous think about the newcomers/ retried players making the cut as senior county players. on yesterdays performances o,neill ( no chance) feeney (wing mirrors required no chance) mc namee ( potential, needs to release ball quicker.) austin ( def think he is one to work with, 4 clean catches good prospect ) o neill ( dont know if he is halfback, give another chance and position) mackin ( yes ) lavery ( very cumberson and gives the ball away too much).
[/quote
d parkinson [ no ] , s o,neill [ no ] ,watters [ no ] , feeney [ no ], j o,neill [ no ] , mc gee [ no ] ,
mc cone [ no ] , austin [ no ] , mc namee  :-\ , henderson  :-\ dyas  :-\ mackin  :-\ , does,nt leave a lot to work with but a lot of these players have not been able to transform club form to county football  8)
torres a bit quick there on parkinson, s oneill need to see more game time and think mackin, dyas, austin will def have alot to offer, still work in progress on mc namee. You obviosly agree in relation to your own club man o neill good club player only.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on January 27, 2010, 11:05:42 PM
For anyone who hasn't bought a local paper in the last four months... Harps minors won the MFC in 2009  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on January 28, 2010, 11:21:21 AM
Quote from: ogshead on January 27, 2010, 11:05:42 PM
For anyone who hasn't bought a local paper in the last four months... Harps minors won the MFC in 2009  :P

aye and that Anto Duffy went to every school within a 5 mile radius of the town :P ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on January 29, 2010, 10:22:48 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on January 28, 2010, 11:21:21 AM
Quote from: ogshead on January 27, 2010, 11:05:42 PM
For anyone who hasn't bought a local paper in the last four months... Harps minors won the MFC in 2009  :P

aye and that Anto Duffy went to every school within a 5 mile radius of the town :P ;)

That's some achievement there, we should give him a full page spread in the next few Observers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on January 29, 2010, 12:01:11 PM
ALL COUNTY LEAGUE PROGRAMME 2010
                                 
                             DIVISION 1

SUNDAY 11TH APRIL
Clan Na Gael   V Carrickcruppin
Crossmaglen    V Mullaghbawn
Cullaville   V Dromintee
Killeavey    V Maghery
Pearse Og    V Sarsfields
St Patrick's    V Whitecross

SUNDAY 18TH APRIL
Sarsfields    V St Patrick's
Maghery    V Pearse Og
Dromintee    V Killeavey
Mullaghbawn   V Cullaville
Carrickcruppin    V Crossmaglen
Whitecross    V Clan Na Gael
   
SUNDAY 25TH APRIL
Crossmaglen    V Clan Na Gael
Cullaville    V Carrickcruppin
Killeavey    V Mullaghbawn
Pearse Og    V Dromintee
Sarsfields    V Whitecross
St Patrick's    V Maghery

SUNDAY 2ND MAY
Whitecross    V Crossmaglen
Dromintee    V St Patrick's
Mullaghbawn    V Pearse Og
Carrickcruppin    V Killeavey
Clan Na Gael   V Cullaville
Maghery    V Sarsfields

FRIDAY 7TH MAY
Cullaville    V Crossmaglen
Whitecross    V Maghery
Pearse Og    V Carrickcruppin
St Patrick's    V Mullaghbawn
Sarsfields    V Dromintee
Killeavey    V Clan Na Gael

FRIDAY 14TH MAY
Dromintee    V Maghery
Mullaghbawn    V Sarsfields
Carrickcruppin    V St Patrick's
Whitecross    V Cullaville
Crossmaglen    V Killeavey
Clan Na Gael   V Pearse Og

FRIDAY 21ST MAY
Killeavey    V Cullaville
Pearse Og    V Crossmaglen
Dromintee    V Whitecross
Sarsfields    V Carrickcruppin
Maghery    V Mullaghbawn
St Patrick's   V Clan Na Gael

SUNDAY 23RD MAY
Mullaghbawn   V Dromintee
Carrickcruppin   V Maghery
Clan Na Gael   V Sarsfields
Crossmaglen   V St Patrick's
Cullaville    V Pearse Og
Killeavey    V Whitecross

SUNDAY 30TH MAY
Whitecross    V Mullaghbawn
St Patrick's    V Cullaville
Sarsfields    V Crossmaglen
Maghery    V Clan Na Gael
Dromintee    V Carrickcruppin
Pearse Og    V Killeavey

FRIDAY 4TH JUNE
Pearse Og    V Whitecross
Clan Na Gael   V Dromintee
Crossmaglen    V Maghery
Cullaville    V Sarsfields
Killeavey    V St Patrick's
Carrickcruppin    V Mullaghbawn

SUNDAY 13TH JUNESt
Patrick's    V Pearse Og
Sarsfields    V Killeavey
Maghery    V Cullaville
Carrickcruppin    V Whitecross
Mullaghbawn   V Clan Na Gael
Dromintee    V Crossmaglen

SUNDAY 20TH JUNE
Whitecross    V St Patrick's
Sarsfields    V Pearse Og
Maghery    V Killeavey
Dromintee    V Cullaville
Mullaghbawn    V Crossmaglen
Carrickcruppin    V Clan Na Gael

FRIDAY 25TH JUNE
Clan Na Gael   V Whitecross
Crossmaglen    V Carrickcruppin
Cullaville    V Mullaghbawn
Killeavey    V Dromintee
Pearse Og    V Maghery
St Patrick's    V Sarsfields

SUNDAY 4TH JULY
Maghery    V St Patrick's
Whitecross    V Sarsfields
Dromintee    V Pearse Og
Mullaghbawn   V Killeavey
Carrickcruppin    V Cullaville
Clan Na Gael   V Crossmaglen

FRIDAY 9TH JULY
Sarsfields    V Maghery
Cullaville    V Clan Na Gael
Killeavey    V Carrickcruppin
Pearse Og    V Mullaghbawn
St Patrick's    V Dromintee
Crossmaglen    V Whitecross

FRIDAY 16TH JULY
Clan Na Gael   V Killeavey
Dromintee    V Sarsfields
Mullaghbawn    V St Patrick's
Carrickcruppin    V Pearse Og
Maghery    V Whitecross
Crossmaglen    V Cullaville

FRIDAY 23RD JULY
Pearse Og    V Clan Na Gael
Killeavey    V Crossmaglen
Cullaville    V Whitecross
St Patrick's    V Carrickcruppin
Sarsfields    V Mullaghbawn
Maghery    V Dromintee

SUNDAY 25TH JULY
Clan Na Gael   V St Patrick's
Mulaghbawn   V Maghery
Carrickcruppin    V Sarsfields
Whitecross    V Dromintee
Crossmaglen    V Pearse Og
Cullaville    V Killeavey

FRIDAY 31ST JULY
Whitecross     V Killeavey
Pearse Og    V Cullaville
St Patrick's    V Crossmaglen
Sarsfields    V Clan Na Gael
Maghery    V Carrickcruppin
Dromintee    V Mullaghbawn

SUNDAY 1ST AUGUST
Killeavey    V Pearse Og
Carrickcruppin    V Dromintee
Clan Na Gael   V Maghery
Crossmaglen    V Sarsfields
Cullaville    V St Patrick's
Mullaghbawn   V Whitecross

SUNDAY 8TH AUGUST
Mullaghbawn   V Carrickcruppin
St Patrick's    V Killeavey
Sarsfields    V Cullaville
Maghery    V Crossmaglen
Dromintee    V Clan Na Gael
Whitecross    V Pearse Og
   
SUNDAY 22ND AUGUST
Crossmaglen   V Dromintee
Clan Na Gael   V Mullaghbawn
Whitecross    V Carrickcruppin
Cullaville    V Maghery
Killeavey    V Sarsfields
Pearse Og    V St Patrick's

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on January 29, 2010, 12:20:51 PM
Can someone post up the fixtures for all 4 divisions please.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on January 29, 2010, 12:30:51 PM
Only have div 1 yellow card at moment
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on January 29, 2010, 01:18:31 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on January 29, 2010, 12:30:51 PM
Only have div 1 yellow card at moment

Thanks.

The fixtures seem well spaced out anyway but if I had one gripe it would be the county board failing to ensure that Leagues are played before the start of the Senior C'Ship.

A team could be knocked out of the SFC and have to play their final League match the following weekend with absolutely no motivation unless they are in a relegation battle or vying for the League title.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 29, 2010, 01:53:23 PM
Then this becomes that teams problem. I know what you are saying but it theory it will always work out this way because games will be postponed and all sorts of conspiracy theories will be thrown around
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on January 29, 2010, 03:07:38 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on January 27, 2010, 07:48:06 PM
Quote from: torres on January 27, 2010, 07:06:36 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on January 25, 2010, 08:57:25 AM
What do yous think about the newcomers/ retried players making the cut as senior county players. on yesterdays performances o,neill ( no chance) feeney (wing mirrors required no chance) mc namee ( potential, needs to release ball quicker.) austin ( def think he is one to work with, 4 clean catches good prospect ) o neill ( dont know if he is halfback, give another chance and position) mackin ( yes ) lavery ( very cumberson and gives the ball away too much).
[/quote
d parkinson [ no ] , s o,neill [ no ] ,watters [ no ] , feeney [ no ], j o,neill [ no ] , mc gee [ no ] ,
mc cone [ no ] , austin [ no ] , mc namee  :-\ , henderson  :-\ dyas  :-\ mackin  :-\ , does,nt leave a lot to work with but a lot of these players have not been able to transform club form to county football  8)
torres a bit quick there on parkinson, s oneill need to see more game time and think mackin, dyas, austin will def have alot to offer, still work in progress on mc namee. You obviosly agree in relation to your own club man o neill good club player only.
the lads i,ve put in the [ no ] i just feel that at the moment they are not county standard but hopefully some of them will be in the future , i think j o,neill is a good club player but blow,s hot and cold ,not county standard , we have a few lads at our club who would be rated higher than o.neill but did,nt attend trials , of the others , agree some are still  work in progress but can the likes of m mackin , austin , improve enough to challenge for a starting place .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on January 29, 2010, 06:45:42 PM
ALL COUNTY LEAGUE PROGRAMME 2010
                                 
                             




 
                           DIVISION 2

SUNDAY 11TH APRIL
Silverbridge  V Tir na nÓg
St Peter's  V St Michael's
Keady  V Madden 
Clann Eireann  V Granemore 
Ballymacnab  V Wolfe Tones 
Armagh Harps V Ballyhegan 

SUNDAY 18TH APRIL
Tir na nÓg V Armagh Harps
Ballyhegan  V Ballymacnab 
Wolfe Tones  V Clann Eireann 
Granemore  V Keady 
Madden  V St Peter's 
St Michael's V Silverbridge 

SUNDAY 25TH APRIL
Silverbridge  V Madden 
St Michael's V Tir na nÓg
St Peter's  V Granemore 
Keady  V Wolfe Tones 
Clann Eireann  V Ballyhegan 
Ballymacnab  V Armagh Harps

SUNDAY 2ND MAY
Madden  V St Michael's
Armagh Harps V Clann Eireann 
Ballyhegan  V Keady 
Wolfe Tones  V St Peter's 
Granemore  V Silverbridge 
Tir na nÓg V Ballymacnab 

FRIDAY 7TH MAY
Keady  V Armagh Harps
St Michael's V Granemore 
Silverbridge  V Wolfe Tones 
St Peter's  V Ballyhegan 
Tir na nÓg V Madden 
Clann Eireann  V Ballymacnab 

FRIDAY 14TH MAY
Armagh Harps V St Peter's 
Ballymacnab  V Keady 
Tir na nÓg V Clann Eireann 
Ballyhegan  V Silverbridge 
Wolfe Tones  V St Michael's
St Mary's V Madden 

FRIDAY 21ST MAY
Silverbridge  V Armagh Harps
Madden  V Wolfe Tones 
St Michael's V Ballyhegan 
Granemore  V Tir na nÓg
St Peter's  V Ballymacnab 
Keady  V Clann Eireann
 
 
 
SUNDAY 23RD  MAY
 
Keady  V Tir na nÓg
Clann Eireann  V St Peter's 
Ballymacnab  V Silverbridge 
Armagh Harps V St Michael's
Ballyhegan  V Madden 
Wolfe Tones  V Granemore 

SUNDAY 30TH MAY
St Peter's  V Keady 
Granemore  V Ballyhegan 
Madden  V Armagh Harps
St Michael's V Ballymacnab 
Silverbridge  V Clann Eireann 
Tir na nÓg V Wolfe Tones 

FRIDAY 4TH JUNE
Ballyhegan   V Wolfe Tones 
Keady  V Silverbridge 
Clann Eireann  V St Michael's
Ballymacnab  V Madden 
Armagh Harps V Granemore 
St Peter's  V Tir na nÓg

SUNDAY 13TH JUNE
Granemore  V Ballymacnab 
Wolfe Tones  V Armagh Harps
Ballyhegan  V Tir na nÓg
Madden  V Clann Eireann 
St Michael's V Keady 
Silverbridge  V St Peter's 

SUNDAY 20TH JUNE
Tir na nÓg V Silverbridge 
St Michael's V St Peter's
Madden  V Keady 
Granemore  V Clann Eireann 
Wolfe Tones  V Ballymacnab 
Ballyhegan  V Armagh Harps

FRIDAY 25TH JUNE
Armagh Harps V Tir na nÓg
Ballymacnab  V Ballyhegan 
Clann Eireann  V Wolfe Tones 
Keady  V Granemore 
St Peter's  V Madden 
Silverbridge  V St Michael's

SUNDAY 4TH JULY
Madden  V Silverbridge 
Tir na nÓg V St Michael's
Granemore  V St Peter's 
Wolfe Tones  V Keady 
Ballyhegan  V Clann Eireann 
Armagh  V Ballymacnab 

FRIDAY 9TH JULY
St Michael's V Madden 
Clann Eireann  V Armagh Harps
Keady  V Ballyhegan 
St Peter's  V Wolfe Tones 
Silverbridge  V Granemore 
Ballymacnab  V Tir na nÓg

FRIDAY 16TH JULY
Armagh Harps V Keady 
Granemore  V St Michael's
Wolfe Tones  V Silverbridge
Ballyhegan  V St Peter's 
Madden V Tir na nÓg
Ballymacnab  V Clann Eireann 

FRIDAY 31ST JULY
St Peter's  V Armagh Harps
Keady  V Ballymacnab 
Clann Eireann  V Tir na nÓg
Silverbridge V Ballyhegan 
St Michael's V Wolfe Tones 
Madden  V Granemore 

SUNDAY 1ST AUGUST
Armagh Harps  V Silverbridge 
Wolfe Tones  V Madden 
Ballyhegan  V St Michael's
Tir na nÓg V Granemore 
Ballymacnab  V St Peter's 
Clann Eireann  V Keady 

FRIDAY 6TH AUGUST
Ballyhegan


V Granemore 
Ballymacnab V St. Michael's 
Clann Eireann  V Silverbridge

SUNDAY 8TH AUGUST
Tir na nÓg V Keady
St.Peter's  V Clann Eireann 
Silverbridge  V Balllymacnab 
St. Michaels  V Armagh Harps
Madden  V Ballyhegan 
Granemore V Wolfe Tones

SUNDAY 15TH AUGUST
Keady  V St. Peter's 
Armagh Harps  V Madden
Wolfe Tones V Tir na nÓg

SUNDAY 22ND AUGUST
Wolfe Tones  V Ballyhegan 
Silverbridge V Keady 
St. Michaels V Clann Eireann
Madden V Ballymacnab 
Granemore  V Armagh Harps
Tir na nÓg V St. Peter's 

SUNDAY 29TH AUGUST
Ballymacnab  V Granemore 
Armagh Harps V Wolfe Tones 
Tir na nÓg V Ballyhegan
Clann Eireann  V Madden 
Keady  V St Michael's
St Peter's  V Silverbridge 
                                DIVISION 3

SUNDAY 11TH APRIL
Tullysaran  V Belleek 
St Paul's  V Middletown 
Forkhill  V Lissummon
Clonmore  V Collegeland 
Shane O`Neills V Eire Óg
An Port Mór V Annaghmore 

SUNDAY 18TH APRIL
Belleek 


V An Port Mór
Annaghmore  V Shane O`Neills
Eire Óg V Clonmore 
Collegeland  V Forkhill 
Lissummon V St Paul's 
Middletown  V Tullysaran 

SUNDAY 25TH APRIL
Tullysaran 


V Lissummon
Middletown  V Belleek 
St Paul's  V Collegeland 
Forkhill  V Eire Óg
Clonmore  V Annaghmore
Shane O`Neills V An Port Mór

SUNDAY 2ND MAY
Lissummon


V Middletown 
An Port Mór V Clonmore 
Annaghmore V Forkhill 
Eire Óg V St Paul's 
Collegeland V Tullysaran 
Belleek  V Shane O`Neills

FRIDAY 7TH MAY 
Forkhill 


V An Port Mór
Middletown  V Collegeland 
Tullysaran  V Eire Óg
St Paul's  V Annaghmore
Belleek  V Lissummon
Clonmore  V Shane O`Neills

FRIDAY 14TH MAY 
An Port Mór


V St Paul's 
Shane O`Neills V Forkhill 
Belleek  V Clonmore 
Annaghmore  V Tullysaran 
Eire Óg V Middletown 
Collegeland  V Lissummon

FRIDAY 21ST MAY
Tullysaran 


V An Port Mór
Lissummon V Eire Óg
Middletown   V Annaghmore 
Collegeland  V Belleek 
St Paul's V Shane O`Neills
Forkhill  V Clonmore 

     
SUNDAY 23RD MAY 
Forkhill   V  Belleek 
Clonmore  V St Paul's 
Shane O`Neills V Tullysaran 
An Port Mór V Middletown 
Annaghmore V Lissummon
Eire Óg V Collegeland 

SUNDAY 30TH MAY 
St Paul's


V Forkhill 
Collegeland  V Annaghmore 
Lissummon V An Port Mór
Middletown  V Shane O`Neills
Tullysaran  V Clonmore 
Belleek  V Eire Óg

FRIDAY 4TH JUNE
Annaghmore 


V  Eire Óg
Forkhill  V Tullysaran 
Clonmore  V Middletown 
Shane O`Neills  V Lissummon
An Port Mór V Collegeland 
St Paul's  V Belleek 

SUNDAY 13TH JUNE
Collegeland 


V Shane O`Neills
Eire Óg V An Port Mór
Annaghmore  V Belleek 
Lissummon V Clonmore 
Middletown  V Forkhill 
Tullysaran  V St Paul's 

SUNDAY 20TH JUNE
Belleek 


V Tullysaran 
Middletown  V St Paul's 
Lissummon V Forkhill 
Collegeland  V Clonmore 
Eire Óg V Shane O`Neills
Annaghmore  V An Port Mór
FRIDAY 25TH JUNE
An Port Mór


V Belleek 
Shane O`Neills V Annaghmore
Clonmore  V Eire Óg
Forkhill  V Collegeland 
St Paul's  V Lissummon
Tullysaran  V Middletown 

SUNDAY 4TH JULY
Lissummon


V Tullysaran 
Belleek  V Middletown 
Collegeland  V St Paul's 
Eire Óg V Forkhill 
Annaghmore  V Clonmore 
An Port Mór V Shane O`Neills

FRIDAY 9TH JULY
Middletown 


V Lissummon
Clonmore  V An Port Mór
Forkhill  V Annaghmore 
St Paul's  V Eire Óg
Tullysaran  V Collegeland 
Shane O`Neills V Belleek 

SUNDAY 11TH JULY
Forkhill 


V


Shane O`Neills
Lissummon V Collegeland

FRIDAY 16TH JULY
An Port Mor 


V Forkhill
Collegeland  V Middletown 
Eire Óg V Tullysaran 
Annaghmore  V St Paul's 
Lissummon V Belleek 
Shane O`Neills V Clonmore 

SUNDAY 25TH JULY
St Paul's 


V An Port Mór
Clonmore  V Belleek 
Tullysaran  V Annaghmore 
Middletown  V Eire Óg

FRIDAY 6TH AUGUST
An Port Mór


V  Tullysaran 
Eire Óg V Lissummon
Annaghmore V Middletown 
Belleek  V Collegeland 
Shane O`Neills V St Paul's 
Clonmore  V Forkhill 

SUNDAY 8TH AUGUST
St Paul's 
V
Clonmore 
Tullysaran  V Shane O`Neills
Middletown  V An Port Mór
Lissummon V Annaghmore 
Collegeland  V Eire Óg

SUNDAY 15TH AUGUST
Forkhill 


V St Paul's 
Annaghmore V Collegeland 
An Port Mór V Lissummon
Camloch  V Middletown 
Clonmore  V Tullysaran 
Eire Óg V Belleek 
SUNDAY 22ND AUGUST
Eire Óg


V Annaghmore
Tullysaran  V Forkhill 
Middletown  V Clonmore 
Lissummon V Shane O`Neills
Collegeland  V An Port Mór
Belleek  V St Paul's

SUNDAY 29TH AUGUST
Shane O`Neills 


V Collegeland 
An Port Mór V Eire Óg
Belleek   V Annaghmore 
Clonmore  V Lissummon
Forkhill  V Middletown 
St Paul's  V Tullysaran 

                         DIVISION 4

SUNDAY 11TH APRIL
Killean  V St Patrick's II
Phelim Brady's  V Killeavey II
Mullabrack   V O`Hanlon's   
Dorsey Emmetts  VGrange 
Crossmaglen II  V Derrynoose 
Clady   V Corrinshigo 

SUNDAY 18TH APRIL
St Patrick's II

V Clady 
Corrinshigo   V Crossmaglen II
Derrynoose   V Dorsey Emmetts
Grange   V Mullabrack 
O`Hanlon's  V Phelim Brady's
Killeavey II  V Killean

SUNDAY 25TH APRIL
Killean

V O`Hanlon's
Killeavey II  V St Patrick's II
Phelim Brady's  V Grange 
Mullabrack   V Derrynoose 
Dorsey Emmetts  V Corrinshigo 
Crossmaglen II  V Clady 

SUNDAY 2ND MAY
O`Hanlon's

V Killeavey II
Clady   V Dorsey Emmetts
Corrinshigo   V Mullabrack 
Derrynoose   V Phelim Brady's
Grange   V Killean
St Patrick's II  V Crossmaglen II

FRIDAY 7TH MAY
Mullabrack 

V Clady 
Killeavey II  V Grange 
Killean  V Derrynoose 
Phelim Brady's  V Corrinshigo 
St Patrick's II  V O`Hanlon's
Dorsey Emmetts  V Crossmaglen II

FRIDAY 14TH MAY
Clady 

V Phelim Brady's
Crossmaglen II  V Mullabrack 
St Patrick's II  V Dorsey Emmetts
Corrinshigo   V Killean
Derrynoose   V Killeavey II
Grange   V O`Hanlon's

FRIDAY 21ST MAY
Killean

V Clady 
O`Hanlon's  V Derrynoose 
Killeavey II  V Corrinshigo 
Grange   V St Patrick's II
Phelim Brady's  V Crossmaglen II
Mullabrack   V Dorsey Emmetts

SUNDAY 23RD MAY 
Dorsey Emmetts
 


V Phelim Brady's
Crossmaglen II  V Killean
Clady   V Killeavey II
Corrinshigo   V O`Hanlon's
Mullabrack   V St Patrick's II
Derrynoose   V Grange 

SUNDAY 30TH MAY
Phelim Brady's

V Mullabrack 
Grange   V Corrinshego 
O`Hanlon's  V Clady 
Killeavey II  V Crossmaglen II
Killean  V Dorsey Emmetts
St Patrick's II  V Derrynoose 

FRIDAY 4TH JUNE
Corrinshigo 


V Derrynoose 
Mullabrack   V Killean
Dorsey Emmetts  V Killeavey II
Crossmaglen II  V O`Hanlon's
Clady   V Grange 
Phelim Brady's  V St Patrick's II 

SUNDAY 13TH JUNE
Grange 

V Crossmaglen II
Derrynoose   V Clady 
Corrinshigo   V St Patrick's II
O`Hanlon's  V Dorsey Emmetts
Killeavey II  V Mullabrack 
Killean  V Phelim Brady's

SUNDAY 20TH JUNE
St Patrick's II

V Killean
Killeavey II  V Phelim Brady's
O`Hanlon's  V Mullabrack 
Grange   V Dorsey Emmetts
Derrynoose   V Crossmaglen IIs
Corrinshigo   V Clady 

FRIDAY 25TH JUNE
Clady 

V St Patrick's II
Crossmaglen RII  V Corrinshigo 
Dorsey Emmetts  V Derrynoose 
Mullabrack   V Grange 
Phelim Brady's  V O`Hanlon's
Killean  V Killeavey II

SUNDAY 4TH JULY
O`Hanlon's

V Killean
St Patrick's II  V Killeavey II
Grange   V Phelim Brady's
Derrynoose   V Mullabrack 
Corrinshigo   V Dorsey Emmetts
Clady   V Crossmaglen II


FRIDAY 9TH JULY
Killeavey II
 


V O`Hanlon's
Dorsey Emmetts  V Clady 
Mullabrack   V Corrinshigo 
Phelim Brady's  V Derrynoose 
Killean  V Grange 
Crossmaglen II  V St Patrick's II

FRIDAY 16TH JULY
Clady 

V Mullabrack 
Grange   V Killeavey II
Derrynoose   V Killean
Corrinshigo   V Phelim Brady's
O`Hanlon's  V St Patrick's II

FRIDAY 23RD JULY
Crossmaglen II

V Dorsey Emmetts

SUNDAY 25TH JULY
Phelim Brady's

V Clady 
Mullabrack   V Crossmaglen II
Dorsey Emmetts  V St Patrick's II
Killean  V Corrinshigo 
Killeavey II  V Derrynoose 
O`Hanlon's  V Grange 

FRIDAY 6TH AUGUST
Clady   V Killean
Derrynoose   V O`Hanlon's
Corrinshigo   V Killeavey II
St Patrick's II  V Grange 
Crossmaglen II  V Phelim Brady's
Dorsey Emmetts  V Mullabrack 


SUNDAY 8TH AUGUST
St Patrick's II
 

V Mullabrack 
Phelim Brady's  V Dorsey Emmetts
Killean  V Crossmaglen II
Killeavey II  V Clady 
O`Hanlon's  V Corrinshigo 
Grange   V Derrynoose 

SUNDAY 15TH AUGUST
Mullabrack 

V Phelim Brady's
Corrinshigo   V Grange 
Clady   V O`Hanlon's
Crossmaglen II  V Killeavey II
Dorsey Emmetts  V Killean
Derrynoose   V St Patrick's II

SUNDAY 22ND AUGUST
Derrynoose 

V Corrinshigo 
Killean  V Mullabrack 
Killeavey II  V Dorsey Emmetts
O`Hanlon's  V Crossmaglen II
Grange   V Clady 
St Patrick's II  V Phelim Brady's

SUNDAY 29TH AUGUST
Crossmaglen II

V Grange 
Clady   V Derrynoose 
St Patrick's II  V Corrinshigo 
Dorsey Emmetts  V O`Hanlon's
Mullabrack   V Killeavey II
Phelim Brady's  V Killean


ALL COUNTY 'B' LEAGUE PROGRAMME 2010


WEDNESDAY 5TH MAY     

Section A     
Wolfe Tones  V Tir na nÓg   
St Paul's V Clan Na Gael   
Eire Óg V Maghery   
Clann Eireann  V St Peter's   
   
Section B   
Ballyhegan  V Pearse Og   
Tullysaran  V Collegeland   
An Port Mór V Armagh Harps   
Grange  V Annaghmore   
   
Section C   
Middletown  V Keady 
St Michael's V St Joseph's
Madden  V Whitecross 
Granemore  V Ballymacnab 
   
Section D 
Silverbridge  V Carrickcruppin 
Belleek  V Mullaghbawn
Cullaville  V St.Patrick's 
Dromintee  V Crossmaglen 

WEDNESDAY 12TH MAY     

Section A   
Maghery  V Clann Eireann   
St Paul's  V Eire Óg   
Clan Na Gael V Tir na nÓg   
Sarsfields  V Wolfe Tones   
   
Section B   
Grange  V An Port Mór   
Armagh Harps V Tullysaran   
Collegeland  V Ballyhegan   
Annaghmore  V Pearse Og   
   
Section C   
Keady  V Ballymacnab 
Whitecross  V Granemore 
St Joseph's V Madden 
Middletown  V St Michael's

Section D 
Dromintee  Cullaville 
St Patrick's  Belleek 
Mullaghbawn Silverbridge 
Crossmaglen Carrickcruppin 


WEDNESDAY 19TH MAY     
Section A   
Wolfe Tones  V St Peter's   
Tir na nÓg V Sarsfields   
Eire Óg V Clan Na Gael   
Clann Eireann  V St Paul's   
   
Section B     
Pearse Og  V Collegeland   
Ballyhegan  V Armagh Harps   
Tullysaran  V Grange   
An Port Mór VAnnaghmore   
     
Section C     
St Michael's V Keady 
Madden  V Middletown 
Granemore  V St Joseph's
Ballymacnab  V Whitecross 

Section D 
Carrickcruppin  V Mullaghbawn
Silverbridge  V St Patrick's 
Belleek  V Dromintee 
Cullaville  V Crossmaglen 

WEDNESDAY 26TH MAY     
Section A   
Eire Óg V Clann Eireann     
Clan Na Gael V Sarsfields     
St Peter's   V Tir na nÓg   
Maghery   V Wolfe Tones     
   
Section B
An Port Mór V Tullysaran   
Grange  V Ballyhegan   
Armagh Harps V Pearse Og   
Annaghmore  V Collegeland   
 
Section C   
Keady  V Whitecross 
St Joseph's V Ballymacnab 
Middletown  V Granemore 
St Michael's V Madden 

Section D 
Cullaville  V Belleek 
Dromintee  V Silverbridge 
St Patrick's  V Carrickcruppin 
Crossmaglen  V Mullaghbawn

WEDNESDAY 2ND JUNE       
Section A   
Clann Eireann   V Clan Na Gael   
Wolfe Tones   V St Paul's     
Tir na nÓg V Maghery     
Sarsfields   V St Peter's     
Section B   
Collegeland V Armagh Harps   
Pearse Og  V Grange   
Ballyhegan  V An Port Mór   
Tullysaran  V Annaghmore   
   
Section C   
Madden  V Keady 
Granemore  V St Michael's
Ballymacnab  V Middletown 
Whitecross  V St Joseph's

Section D 
Mullaghbawn V St Patrick's 
Carrickcruppin  V Dromintee 
Silverbridge  V Cullaville 
Belleek  V Crossmaglen 

WEDNESDAY 9TH JUNE       
Section A   
Clan na Gael V St Peter's   
Maghery   V Sarsfields     
St Paul's V Tir na nÓg   
Eire Óg V Wolfe Tones     
   
Section B   
Tullysaran  V Ballyhegan   
Annaghmore  V Armagh Harps   
Grange  V Collegeland   
An Port Mór V Pearse Og   

Section C   
Keady  V St Joseph's
Middletown  V Whitecross 
St Michael's V Ballymacnab 
Madden  V Granemore 

Section D 
Belleek  V Silverbridge 
Cullaville  V Carrickcruppin 
Dromintee  V Mullaghbawn
Crossmaglen  V St Patrick's 

WEDNESDAY 16TH JUNE       
Section A   
Wolfe Tones   V Clann Eireann     
Tir na nÓg V Eire Óg   
Sarsfields   V St Paul's     
St Peter's   V Maghery     
   
Section B   
Collegeland  V An Port Mór   
Armagh Harps V Grange   
Ballyhegan  V Annaghmore   
Pearse Og  V Tullysaran   
Section C   
Granemore  V Keady 
Ballymacnab  V Madden 
Whitecross  V St Michael's
St Joseph's V Middletown 

Section D
Silverbridge  V Crossmaglen 
Carrickcruppin  V Belleek 
Mullaghbawn V Cullaville 
St Patrick's  V Dromintee 

WEDNESDAY 23RD JUNE   
Section A   
Clan Na Gael V Maghery     
St Paul's   V St Peter's     
Eire Óg V Sarsfields     
Clann Eireann   V Tir na nÓg   
   
WEDNESDAY 30TH JUNE
Section A 
Wolfe Tones   V Clan Na Gael
Sarsfields   V Clann Eireann     
St Peter's   V Eire Óg   
Maghery   V St Paul's   
 
Section A Winners v Section B Runners Up   
     
Section A Runners Up v Section B Winners   
       
Winners then play in Northern Region Final   

Section C Winners v Section D Runners Up
       
Section C Runners Up v Section D Winners 

Winners then play in Southern Region Final

Winners of both Regions play in All County Final


 
 
 
 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hammer on January 29, 2010, 09:40:14 PM
Anyone know what sort of Minor team Armagh have this year?  Many of last years team back?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: keadyhurling on February 01, 2010, 10:13:36 PM
Hi folks, our club running new hurling initiative, it started last friday night and was a superb success-even in the snow! A great atmosphere and great hurling played also. - here are some more thoughts on the opening night where we were lucky to have Paudie Butler in attendance.

National Director of Hurling Excited By New Floodlit Initiative

Speed and skill was the order of the night when An Ceide Lamh Dhearg's Midnight Hurling got under way at Keady High School on Friday night past. This new hurling initiative was designed to provide free flowing. high intensity hurling and credit must go to all the participating players who ensured this was so. Under the bright lights seven teams of seven took to the cold Astro turf but although the frost was on the ground the boys put every ounce of energy into each game although the going was very tough indeed.
The Pat Cunningham Memorial Cup is up for grabs and the competition will run for another 4 consecutive Friday nights with the main aims to provide competitive hurling in a fun environment for hurlers aged 15-19 as well as providing them with a safe social outlet on a Friday night. These same young men also had a very positive input to the rule making and organisation of this tournament, which is the first of its kind in the GAA. On the night the National Director of Hurling Paudie Butler official opened the tournament when he threw the first sloitar into play. This was very apt as Paudie has been the catalyst for many an innovation in hurling and he is very excited at the potential of the new game. Paudie was quoted "This is a fantastic game and with the advent of 3rd Generation pitches we will be trying to take this game nation wide. The boys and girls of Keady are doing so much good work and this is once again underlined here tonight."
The teams are made up of 7 players – one of which is a Keady Senior player who must remain in goals – and games are 5 a side, lasting 4minutes per half. 2 Running subs are allowed and encouraged in what is a fast paced high intensive spectacle. Playing rules have been conditioned to one catch of the sliothar only and puck outs/sidelines can be taken using a hand pass or a strike in order to keep games flowing as much as possible. Goals are the only way to score and there is a bonus point if any teams hit 4 or more.
As part of Keady's contribution to the ongoing Armagh Hurling Development programme, each of the 8 teams taking part are allowed 2 'guest' players from neighbouring clubs and the teams have also recruited new or past players back to the local hurling scene. It's also getting new recruits for our club and helping community spirit. Additionally we feel its helping hurling evolve with technology (3G pitches) and keeping the GAA up to speed with soccer and tag rugby for example, games traditionally played on these surfaces during the winter months - thus helping GAA player retention
With the first weeks competition now completed Keady Young Irelands are forging ahead with Damien's Devils coming in second place and Super Sumos in third place. There is a three way tie for forth place with Tiny's Angels just heading Liam's Ducks and Bubba Gump Shrimp Corporation on goal difference. At the back are the Underdogs who are living up to their name thus far although there is a long way to go and after the forth week of hurling the teams will be separated into the cup and shield competitions, so everyone have loads of time for success. A shortlist for Goal & Player of the Tournament is up and running with maybe top of heap is the Super Sumos super team goal which was finished of by Stephen Renaghan doubling a bullet to the net while there are numerous names in the hat for the best player including Colton, Renaghan, Gaffney, McCreesh, Fullerton, Corvan, Green and McGale amongst others.
The Keady club would like to welcome all hurling enthusiasts to come along and witness these young lads play a great new game which is set to break into the thoughts of the greater GAA family. First game commences at 8pm sharp on the Astro Turf Keady High School on Friday nights.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on February 02, 2010, 03:11:26 PM
Quote from: keadyhurling on February 01, 2010, 10:13:36 PM
Hi folks, our club running new hurling initiative, it started last friday night and was a superb success-even in the snow! A great atmosphere and great hurling played also. - here are some more thoughts on the opening night where we were lucky to have Paudie Butler in attendance.

National Director of Hurling Excited By New Floodlit Initiative

Speed and skill was the order of the night when An Ceide Lamh Dhearg's Midnight Hurling got under way at Keady High School on Friday night past. This new hurling initiative was designed to provide free flowing. high intensity hurling and credit must go to all the participating players who ensured this was so. Under the bright lights seven teams of seven took to the cold Astro turf but although the frost was on the ground the boys put every ounce of energy into each game although the going was very tough indeed.
The Pat Cunningham Memorial Cup is up for grabs and the competition will run for another 4 consecutive Friday nights with the main aims to provide competitive hurling in a fun environment for hurlers aged 15-19 as well as providing them with a safe social outlet on a Friday night. These same young men also had a very positive input to the rule making and organisation of this tournament, which is the first of its kind in the GAA. On the night the National Director of Hurling Paudie Butler official opened the tournament when he threw the first sloitar into play. This was very apt as Paudie has been the catalyst for many an innovation in hurling and he is very excited at the potential of the new game. Paudie was quoted "This is a fantastic game and with the advent of 3rd Generation pitches we will be trying to take this game nation wide. The boys and girls of Keady are doing so much good work and this is once again underlined here tonight."
The teams are made up of 7 players – one of which is a Keady Senior player who must remain in goals – and games are 5 a side, lasting 4minutes per half. 2 Running subs are allowed and encouraged in what is a fast paced high intensive spectacle. Playing rules have been conditioned to one catch of the sliothar only and puck outs/sidelines can be taken using a hand pass or a strike in order to keep games flowing as much as possible. Goals are the only way to score and there is a bonus point if any teams hit 4 or more.
As part of Keady's contribution to the ongoing Armagh Hurling Development programme, each of the 8 teams taking part are allowed 2 'guest' players from neighbouring clubs and the teams have also recruited new or past players back to the local hurling scene. It's also getting new recruits for our club and helping community spirit. Additionally we feel its helping hurling evolve with technology (3G pitches) and keeping the GAA up to speed with soccer and tag rugby for example, games traditionally played on these surfaces during the winter months - thus helping GAA player retention
With the first weeks competition now completed Keady Young Irelands are forging ahead with Damien's Devils coming in second place and Super Sumos in third place. There is a three way tie for forth place with Tiny's Angels just heading Liam's Ducks and Bubba Gump Shrimp Corporation on goal difference. At the back are the Underdogs who are living up to their name thus far although there is a long way to go and after the forth week of hurling the teams will be separated into the cup and shield competitions, so everyone have loads of time for success. A shortlist for Goal & Player of the Tournament is up and running with maybe top of heap is the Super Sumos super team goal which was finished of by Stephen Renaghan doubling a bullet to the net while there are numerous names in the hat for the best player including Colton, Renaghan, Gaffney, McCreesh, Fullerton, Corvan, Green and McGale amongst others.
The Keady club would like to welcome all hurling enthusiasts to come along and witness these young lads play a great new game which is set to break into the thoughts of the greater GAA family. First game commences at 8pm sharp on the Astro Turf Keady High School on Friday nights.

I think this is a fantastic idea modeled on the midnight soccer that is run in Belfast.  Great way to get young people off the streets and out of harms way on Friday or Saturday nights.  The soccer programme worked really well in Belfast and its great to see a Gaelic Games slant on this.
All the best with it and hope it gets the community support it deserves!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on February 04, 2010, 11:00:22 AM
Once again the CLOWN PRINCE of referees from armagh was a joke yesterday. when are the gaa referees appointment men goin to take on board all of his bad publicity. He has to be star of the show as usual and make the headlines. Some difference in him and mc kees performance in the mc kenna cup final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on February 04, 2010, 11:34:52 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on February 04, 2010, 11:00:22 AM
Once again the CLOWN PRINCE of referees from armagh was a joke yesterday. when are the gaa referees appointment men goin to take on board all of his bad publicity. He has to be star of the show as usual and make the headlines. Some difference in him and mc kees performance in the mc kenna cup final.

here here, hes a wee hilter, people go to watch the two teams on show and nt him, thats 2 years in a row now as well as an embarassin ulster final as well, gave queens everything in 1st half yesterday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 04, 2010, 01:50:15 PM
I like him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: full back on February 04, 2010, 01:57:25 PM
I think he is a good ref as well.
Does it by the book & no f**king about when he is refereeing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 04, 2010, 02:10:04 PM
I actually think he's a good ref too :o

Let me re-phrase that...i think he's a fair ref and tries his best
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on February 04, 2010, 02:27:38 PM


Hughes is a desperate ref. I don't think it'd be fair to label him as a cheat but he's very very bad.

speaking of clowns, I wonder did he take his two usual linesmen with him yesterday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on February 04, 2010, 05:19:24 PM
he is a self important fool. he always has to be the focus and discussion point at the end of any game. it should be the players and the game. how comes he is always bein highlighted by all press and clubs on a regular basis for his decisions. you dont have pat mc aneaney regularily criticised or indeed lots of other high profile referees. even dare i say ollie hearty is a better referee. trying his best is not in his make-up only self importance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 04, 2010, 06:29:33 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on February 04, 2010, 05:19:24 PM
he is a self important fool. he always has to be the focus and discussion point at the end of any game. it should be the players and the game. how comes he is always bein highlighted by all press and clubs on a regular basis for his decisions. you dont have pat mc aneaney regularily criticised or indeed lots of other high profile referees. even dare i say ollie hearty is a better referee. trying his best is not in his make-up only self importance.
whatever anyone can say about Hughes he's not a cheat, the same could not be said for Ollie Hearty!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on February 04, 2010, 11:11:06 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 04, 2010, 02:10:04 PM
I actually think he's a good ref too :o

Let me re-phrase that...i think he's a fair ref and tries his best

This. Like most refs, he could do with using a bit more common sense though. That's the only difference between McEnaney and most of the rest of them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on February 05, 2010, 01:41:49 PM
i've certainly experienced worse refs than hughes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on February 05, 2010, 02:40:38 PM
really looking forward to the start of the new season. With the ogs winning the championship last year it has brought the sparkle back to the competition. Everyone now believes they can win it. The ogs will be out to retain it, cross will be out to prove the doubters wrong and to teach everyone a lesson, harps, dromintee and granemore will be out all guns blazing.

The league is going to be very intriguing. The ogs v cross games (although not overly important in the league) should be mouth watering with both teams looking to stamp their authority.

Maghery and whitecross will be wanting to maintain their status with kileavy and mullabawn wanting to prove that division 1 is where they belong.

Harps will be aiming to win division2 and nothing less than promotion will do.

Very interesting season ahead!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on February 05, 2010, 05:07:19 PM
Harps will certainly want to get back into the premier division if they want to have a realistic chance of winning a county championship in the next few years. Although it wont be that easy but certainly easier with mullaghbawn and killeavey retaining div1 status. maghery will push a lot of teams at home but wouldnt read too much into ogs, dromintee league form with county players missing alot. 10 weeks yet to throw in with some new managers under the spotlight. will aiden o rourkes new position affect dromintee cant see him fulfilling two roles efficiently and certainly think it affect his playing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on February 05, 2010, 06:53:20 PM
Dont see AOR's position being a problem, great tactical awareness and leading from the front will give dromintee a good foundation for a successful year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
Does anyone know if the rumours about Mc Verry from Mullabawn transferring to Cross. I also heard that Tasker from Cullyhanna has been approached. I know at this stage it's all rumour but it doesn't sound as good practice. If it is true I would be very disappointed to hear and I'm sure Mullabawn and St Pats won't stand for it. Just hope a situation doesn't arise like that of the one in Dublin
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on February 06, 2010, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
Does anyone know if the rumours about Mc Verry from Mullabawn transferring to Cross. I also heard that Tasker from Cullyhanna has been approached. I know at this stage it's all rumour but it doesn't sound as good practice. If it is true I would be very disappointed to hear and I'm sure Mullabawn and St Pats won't stand for it. Just hope a situation doesn't arise like that of the one in Dublin

would take these rumours with pinch of salt at this stage.disgrace if does happen though imo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 09:38:26 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on February 06, 2010, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
Does anyone know if the rumours about Mc Verry from Mullabawn transferring to Cross. I also heard that Tasker from Cullyhanna has been approached. I know at this stage it's all rumour but it doesn't sound as good practice. If it is true I would be very disappointed to hear and I'm sure Mullabawn and St Pats won't stand for it. Just hope a situation doesn't arise like that of the one in Dublin

would take these rumours with pinch of salt at this stage.disgrace if does happen though imo

Just noticed it referred to on orchardcounty and it only mentioned Mc Verry. After asking a couple of people about it Taskers' name was mentioned although they did say he wouldn't move. Whether they move or not I still don't like the idea of players being tapped up like soccer players would
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2010, 07:45:05 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 09:38:26 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on February 06, 2010, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
Does anyone know if the rumours about Mc Verry from Mullabawn transferring to Cross. I also heard that Tasker from Cullyhanna has been approached. I know at this stage it's all rumour but it doesn't sound as good practice. If it is true I would be very disappointed to hear and I'm sure Mullabawn and St Pats won't stand for it. Just hope a situation doesn't arise like that of the one in Dublin

would take these rumours with pinch of salt at this stage.disgrace if does happen though imo

Just noticed it referred to on orchardcounty and it only mentioned Mc Verry. After asking a couple of people about it Taskers' name was mentioned although they did say he wouldn't move. Whether they move or not I still don't like the idea of players being tapped up like soccer players would

Jaysus you;re awful easily led ;D  I dropped that in to see who would bite, not a word of it officially. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 07, 2010, 09:32:31 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2010, 07:45:05 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 09:38:26 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on February 06, 2010, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
Does anyone know if the rumours about Mc Verry from Mullabawn transferring to Cross. I also heard that Tasker from Cullyhanna has been approached. I know at this stage it's all rumour but it doesn't sound as good practice. If it is true I would be very disappointed to hear and I'm sure Mullabawn and St Pats won't stand for it. Just hope a situation doesn't arise like that of the one in Dublin

would take these rumours with pinch of salt at this stage.disgrace if does happen though imo

Just noticed it referred to on orchardcounty and it only mentioned Mc Verry. After asking a couple of people about it Taskers' name was mentioned although they did say he wouldn't move. Whether they move or not I still don't like the idea of players being tapped up like soccer players would

Jaysus you;re awful easily led ;D  I dropped that in to see who would bite, not a word of it officially. ;)
Really? Because I heard McVerry was "officially" approached along with a couple of others.  (Didnt hear about tasker)

Cross running short on players bc?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2010, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 07, 2010, 09:32:31 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2010, 07:45:05 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 09:38:26 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on February 06, 2010, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
Does anyone know if the rumours about Mc Verry from Mullabawn transferring to Cross. I also heard that Tasker from Cullyhanna has been approached. I know at this stage it's all rumour but it doesn't sound as good practice. If it is true I would be very disappointed to hear and I'm sure Mullabawn and St Pats won't stand for it. Just hope a situation doesn't arise like that of the one in Dublin

would take these rumours with pinch of salt at this stage.disgrace if does happen though imo

Just noticed it referred to on orchardcounty and it only mentioned Mc Verry. After asking a couple of people about it Taskers' name was mentioned although they did say he wouldn't move. Whether they move or not I still don't like the idea of players being tapped up like soccer players would

Jaysus you;re awful easily led ;D  I dropped that in to see who would bite, not a word of it officially. ;)
Really? Because I heard McVerry was "officially" approached along with a couple of others.  (Didnt hear about tasker)

Cross running short on players bc?

Must be, they'll be asking old hands back next :P :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 07, 2010, 09:39:15 PM
and then we'll know they're in trouble....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2010, 09:45:06 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 07, 2010, 09:39:15 PM
and then we'll know they're in trouble....

Shure they're fcuked, thank god I quit when I did.  I see they had a good win in the U 21 Ulster yesterday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on February 07, 2010, 10:08:50 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 04, 2010, 06:29:33 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on February 04, 2010, 05:19:24 PM
he is a self important fool. he always has to be the focus and discussion point at the end of any game. it should be the players and the game. how comes he is always bein highlighted by all press and clubs on a regular basis for his decisions. you dont have pat mc aneaney regularily criticised or indeed lots of other high profile referees. even dare i say ollie hearty is a better referee. trying his best is not in his make-up only self importance.
whatever anyone can say about Hughes he's not a cheat, the same could not be said for Ollie Hearty!
hughes is a good ref who is fit to keep up with play and dosent miss much,a foul is a foul all the time and he has to be applauded for that,very fair ref. wouldnt even mention that clown hearty in the same breath,he couldnt spell fair and the only time he up with play is when he stops the match and runs to get booking some1 r trying to be smart to people on the line. a complete tool
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on February 07, 2010, 10:29:30 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2010, 07:45:05 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 09:38:26 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on February 06, 2010, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
Does anyone know if the rumours about Mc Verry from Mullabawn transferring to Cross. I also heard that Tasker from Cullyhanna has been approached. I know at this stage it's all rumour but it doesn't sound as good practice. If it is true I would be very disappointed to hear and I'm sure Mullabawn and St Pats won't stand for it. Just hope a situation doesn't arise like that of the one in Dublin

would take these rumours with pinch of salt at this stage.disgrace if does happen though imo

Just noticed it referred to on orchardcounty and it only mentioned Mc Verry. After asking a couple of people about it Taskers' name was mentioned although they did say he wouldn't move. Whether they move or not I still don't like the idea of players being tapped up like soccer players would

Jaysus you;re awful easily led ;D  I dropped that in to see who would bite, not a word of it officially. ;)

I realise that it is all rumour and did think myself that it was a wind up. It was only when I mentioned it to someone I know that there then appeared to be some substance to this wind up. No smoke without fire and all that. Also I think it's a disgrace for clubs to tap up young players like that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: only1clansinlurgan on February 08, 2010, 10:06:32 AM
clans off til a winning start in the ulster league yesterday. any other news on the other armagh clubs. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on February 08, 2010, 10:40:28 AM
Quote from: only1clansinlurgan on February 08, 2010, 10:06:32 AM
clans off til a winning start in the ulster league yesterday. any other news on the other armagh clubs. :)

White Cross beat Moy by a couple of goals.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 08, 2010, 11:13:59 AM
Quote from: ogshead on February 07, 2010, 10:29:30 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2010, 07:45:05 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 09:38:26 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on February 06, 2010, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
Does anyone know if the rumours about Mc Verry from Mullabawn transferring to Cross. I also heard that Tasker from Cullyhanna has been approached. I know at this stage it's all rumour but it doesn't sound as good practice. If it is true I would be very disappointed to hear and I'm sure Mullabawn and St Pats won't stand for it. Just hope a situation doesn't arise like that of the one in Dublin

would take these rumours with pinch of salt at this stage.disgrace if does happen though imo

Just noticed it referred to on orchardcounty and it only mentioned Mc Verry. After asking a couple of people about it Taskers' name was mentioned although they did say he wouldn't move. Whether they move or not I still don't like the idea of players being tapped up like soccer players would

Jaysus you;re awful easily led ;D  I dropped that in to see who would bite, not a word of it officially. ;)

I realise that it is all rumour and did think myself that it was a wind up. It was only when I mentioned it to someone I know that there then appeared to be some substance to this wind up. No smoke without fire and all that. Also I think it's a disgrace for clubs to tap up young players like that

No harm but do you honestly think we need to tap up other clubs players.  The club produces enough young players every year to paly on any senior team.  It is easy to make allegations, "no smoke without fire" yadda yadda but it isn't happening. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 08, 2010, 12:44:30 PM
BC1 i'd say you're about 3 stone heavier now from that picture was taken :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on February 08, 2010, 02:02:08 PM
I wouldn't know McVerry personally, but I'd be very surprised if he left Mullabawn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 08, 2010, 03:31:12 PM
especially to go to cross, wouldn't think there would be any love lost there. It is another load of sh ite lads
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on February 08, 2010, 09:05:15 PM
did willie joe padden play for the crupps yesterday ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on February 08, 2010, 09:27:54 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 08, 2010, 11:13:59 AM
Quote from: ogshead on February 07, 2010, 10:29:30 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2010, 07:45:05 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 09:38:26 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on February 06, 2010, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
Does anyone know if the rumours about Mc Verry from Mullabawn transferring to Cross. I also heard that Tasker from Cullyhanna has been approached. I know at this stage it's all rumour but it doesn't sound as good practice. If it is true I would be very disappointed to hear and I'm sure Mullabawn and St Pats won't stand for it. Just hope a situation doesn't arise like that of the one in Dublin

would take these rumours with pinch of salt at this stage.disgrace if does happen though imo

Just noticed it referred to on orchardcounty and it only mentioned Mc Verry. After asking a couple of people about it Taskers' name was mentioned although they did say he wouldn't move. Whether they move or not I still don't like the idea of players being tapped up like soccer players would

Jaysus you;re awful easily led ;D  I dropped that in to see who would bite, not a word of it officially. ;)

I realise that it is all rumour and did think myself that it was a wind up. It was only when I mentioned it to someone I know that there then appeared to be some substance to this wind up. No smoke without fire and all that. Also I think it's a disgrace for clubs to tap up young players like that

No harm but do you honestly think we need to tap up other clubs players.  The club produces enough young players every year to paly on any senior team.  It is easy to make allegations, "no smoke without fire" yadda yadda but it isn't happening.

I perfectly understand that Cross don't need to tap up players. I have watched some of their underage teams and it's amazing to see them produce great teams year on year at underage. I did say I realise it's all rumour as well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 08, 2010, 11:33:12 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 08, 2010, 09:27:54 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 08, 2010, 11:13:59 AM
Quote from: ogshead on February 07, 2010, 10:29:30 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on February 07, 2010, 07:45:05 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 09:38:26 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on February 06, 2010, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
Does anyone know if the rumours about Mc Verry from Mullabawn transferring to Cross. I also heard that Tasker from Cullyhanna has been approached. I know at this stage it's all rumour but it doesn't sound as good practice. If it is true I would be very disappointed to hear and I'm sure Mullabawn and St Pats won't stand for it. Just hope a situation doesn't arise like that of the one in Dublin

would take these rumours with pinch of salt at this stage.disgrace if does happen though imo

Just noticed it referred to on orchardcounty and it only mentioned Mc Verry. After asking a couple of people about it Taskers' name was mentioned although they did say he wouldn't move. Whether they move or not I still don't like the idea of players being tapped up like soccer players would

Jaysus you;re awful easily led ;D  I dropped that in to see who would bite, not a word of it officially. ;)

I realise that it is all rumour and did think myself that it was a wind up. It was only when I mentioned it to someone I know that there then appeared to be some substance to this wind up. No smoke without fire and all that. Also I think it's a disgrace for clubs to tap up young players like that

No harm but do you honestly think we need to tap up other clubs players.  The club produces enough young players every year to paly on any senior team.  It is easy to make allegations, "no smoke without fire" yadda yadda but it isn't happening.

I perfectly understand that Cross don't need to tap up players. I have watched some of their underage teams and it's amazing to see them produce great teams year on year at underage. I did say I realise it's all rumour as well

But you qualified it very clearly with your no smoke without fire attitude.  As you rightly say there are enough quality players being produced through the clubs own system to make the requirement to tap up players unnecessary.  We have turned local players down who wanted to leave their clubs and play with Cross.  You don't hear those rumours too often, but it has happened.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: only1clansinlurgan on February 09, 2010, 01:12:17 PM
naka

dont know if willie joe played but cruppens result was very impressive.. 5.14 they scored in these conditions.. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on February 09, 2010, 06:03:23 PM
i have been told that he is training with cruppen, i wonder would wiilie joe transfer his county allegiances would be no harm to armagh at all
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on February 09, 2010, 10:23:08 PM
Quote from: naka on February 08, 2010, 09:05:15 PM
did willie joe padden play for the crupps yesterday ?

I dont know, but Billy Joe might have!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: only1clansinlurgan on February 10, 2010, 05:45:14 PM
take ur face face 4 a vomit joxer saan..... :P :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on February 10, 2010, 08:36:40 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
Does anyone know if the rumours about Mc Verry from Mullabawn transferring to Cross. I also heard that Tasker from Cullyhanna has been approached. I know at this stage it's all rumour but it doesn't sound as good practice. If it is true I would be very disappointed to hear and I'm sure Mullabawn and St Pats won't stand for it. Just hope a situation doesn't arise like that of the one in Dublin

Or the one in armagh city. ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 10, 2010, 08:48:36 PM
Quote from: crossfire on February 10, 2010, 08:36:40 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
Does anyone know if the rumours about Mc Verry from Mullabawn transferring to Cross. I also heard that Tasker from Cullyhanna has been approached. I know at this stage it's all rumour but it doesn't sound as good practice. If it is true I would be very disappointed to hear and I'm sure Mullabawn and St Pats won't stand for it. Just hope a situation doesn't arise like that of the one in Dublin

Or the one in armagh city. ;) ;)
Why what's going on there
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on February 10, 2010, 11:12:48 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 10, 2010, 08:48:36 PM
Quote from: crossfire on February 10, 2010, 08:36:40 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 06, 2010, 05:53:48 PM
Does anyone know if the rumours about Mc Verry from Mullabawn transferring to Cross. I also heard that Tasker from Cullyhanna has been approached. I know at this stage it's all rumour but it doesn't sound as good practice. If it is true I would be very disappointed to hear and I'm sure Mullabawn and St Pats won't stand for it. Just hope a situation doesn't arise like that of the one in Dublin

Or the one in armagh city. ;) ;)
Why what's going on there

I knew this would be mentioned as soon as I posted the above. Different scenario and I'm not even sure if a transfer request has been made. One thing I do know is that no one was doing any tapping up in this situation
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 10, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Who's moving?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on February 11, 2010, 08:27:42 AM
Rumours are Philly Loughran is moving to the Ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on February 11, 2010, 11:08:35 AM
Go to www.armagh-gaa.com to get a match report and audio interviews as the Hurlers make it to the Kehoe Shield final by beating Fingal 1-20 to 1-16
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on February 11, 2010, 11:58:42 AM
Unfortunately not a big deal beating fingal. Despite a lot of work and money being pumped into hurling the seniors took a step back last season from where mattie had them the year before. And dont look much better this year with one of the main players not attending and concentrating on club football???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Red Hurley on February 11, 2010, 03:48:17 PM
Wanderer sounds as if you really know your Hurling :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 11, 2010, 06:09:58 PM
Quote from: BenDover on February 11, 2010, 08:27:42 AM
Rumours are Philly Loughran is moving to the Ogs
ffs - has he been playing with clady since dromintee wouldn't take him or has he been playing at all?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on February 11, 2010, 08:41:13 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on February 11, 2010, 11:58:42 AM
Unfortunately not a big deal beating fingal. Despite a lot of work and money being pumped into hurling the seniors took a step back last season from where mattie had them the year before. And dont look much better this year with one of the main players not attending and concentrating on club football???

i disagree. last season, armagh were 5 points away from a nicky rackard final. they should have beaten meath in the semi final at navan, but they allowed meath to gain a bigger first half lead than they should have, as armagh tried to score a late goal or 2 in the first half, should have taken their points.
in 08, the hurlers narrowly avoided relegation by puttin in a great performance v london at pairc esler. howver, the way the draw worked, armagh were then down in the rackard cup last year.
you have to allow the management team time to develop these players, as later on in the year will be the time when the test will come.
if coulter rejoins the squad, hopefully he will, then armagh can take a major scalp in ulster, and go far in the rackard as well. big time.
keep an eye on the minor team as well this year..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on February 12, 2010, 08:35:40 AM
Honestly i don't know Pints - it's all on the grapevine at the minute nothing set in stone
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 12, 2010, 02:26:38 PM
I know these transfers are all speculation but if this trend continues our sport is in danger of becomming like the stupid soccer pub teams that we see pissing about on saturdays ie were players can move willy nilly in search of glory. It is not what the GAA is about and anyone promoting this sort of behaviour is wrong. People shouldn't be touting underage players from other clubs because they think they have potential and should come to a more successful club to achieve more success, it is now happening more of in the  senior ranks. We are now seeing the farce of people having fall outs with managers or they aren't getting picked and they are putting in transfer requests and getting them. These people should be told in no uncertain circumstances that they won't be getting a transfer and that they will have to take a year out and seek the transfer elsewhere. If ther transfer request is legit ie moving or the toher rules sat down then this is fine. This is totally unacceptable and in recent times is becoming increasingly more damaging.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on February 12, 2010, 04:08:31 PM
Armagh senior players Save or Dye for Irish cancer Society

In conjunction with Today FM Ireland, Members of our senior football and hurling teams have agreed to take part in the radio stations fundraising drive for Cancer research Ireland where they are taking part in the Shave or Dye campaign.  Click below for details fo how to help this worthy cause.

http://tinyurl.com/yc2ubp8
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on February 12, 2010, 04:16:02 PM
countygk/red ifs and buts dont paper over the cracks. i have actually seen a number of the games last season and def think hurling hasnt got better. on the question of management i dont think u can compare mattie who was a renowned hurler and a pk who is only new to the game and the mad man from down who is suspended. with the amount of money pumped in with no financial return from gates, sponsorship etc question marks remain. ps im not knocking the lads who want to continue playing hurling but i just think they will never compete with traditional hurling counties, u can even see that with antrim and they are very more tradionalist than armagh. what is the story on dc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on February 12, 2010, 05:42:44 PM
no question that mattie did a great job with the hurlers, from where he took them to where they finished under his leadership. however, this management team is capable of leading armagh hurlers to the heights that many in this county will never think armagh can achieve. When is MJ's suspension up? (btw wanderer he's an antrim man). what you say about antrim is interesting. in 5-10 years time, it will be armagh who will be the so called 'kingpins of Ulster hurling', winning ulster championships at minor and senior level. at underage level, over the past few years armagh have beaten the so called big 3 (down derry antrim) on numerous occasions. so the talent and belief is there for armagh to become a greater force in hurling. fair enough armagh aren't going to reach the heights of kilkenny etc, but will improve a vast vast amount as the structure is now in place to allow this progress.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 12, 2010, 06:30:31 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 12, 2010, 02:26:38 PM
I know these transfers are all speculation but if this trend continues our sport is in danger of becomming like the stupid soccer pub teams that we see pissing about on saturdays ie were players can move willy nilly in search of glory. It is not what the GAA is about and anyone promoting this sort of behaviour is wrong. People shouldn't be touting underage players from other clubs because they think they have potential and should come to a more successful club to achieve more success, it is now happening more of in the  senior ranks. We are now seeing the farce of people having fall outs with managers or they aren't getting picked and they are putting in transfer requests and getting them. These people should be told in no uncertain circumstances that they won't be getting a transfer and that they will have to take a year out and seek the transfer elsewhere. If ther transfer request is legit ie moving or the toher rules sat down then this is fine. This is totally unacceptable and in recent times is becoming increasingly more damaging.
Agree completely and if Ogs have any cop on they'll tell Loughran to keep looking.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on February 13, 2010, 10:12:39 PM
he wouldnt get his place in the ogs team for a start :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: McMonkfish on February 14, 2010, 08:21:06 PM
the ogs are lacking a big midfield presence no disrespect to the lads that there maybe if the transfer happens or not this could make the  3 lads up their game a lot more, competition is healthy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on February 14, 2010, 08:40:33 PM
Is it true that there are no forests around Lurgan?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Dell on February 14, 2010, 08:51:26 PM
V.disappointed with Cross teams attitude and behaviour yesterday at U21 game. The tackle that broke young Omagh boys leg was shocking. But this didn't curb the behaviour lucky to have only 2 sent off. Chicken was very poor.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 14, 2010, 08:53:54 PM
Quote from: Dell on February 14, 2010, 08:51:26 PM
V.disappointed with Cross teams attitude and behaviour yesterday at U21 game. The tackle that broke young Omagh boys leg was shocking. But this didn't curb the behaviour lucky to have only 2 sent off. Chicken was very poor.
Why what was their attitude? Dirt?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on February 14, 2010, 09:06:15 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on February 14, 2010, 08:40:33 PM
Is it true that there are no forests around Lurgan?
???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on February 14, 2010, 09:11:02 PM
Kehoe Cup Shield Final:
Armagh 1 17
Wicklow 3 12

Wicklow hit the net with a free in the last minute of injury time to win by a point  :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on February 14, 2010, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 14, 2010, 09:06:15 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on February 14, 2010, 08:40:33 PM
Is it true that there are no forests around Lurgan?
???

Sarsfields of Derrytrasna had to come the whole way down to Castlewellan forest park for training this morning. Was just wondering were there no forest parks up their way?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on February 14, 2010, 09:18:41 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on February 14, 2010, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 14, 2010, 09:06:15 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on February 14, 2010, 08:40:33 PM
Is it true that there are no forests around Lurgan?
???

Sarsfields of Derrytrasna had to come the whole way down to Castlewellan forest park for training this morning. Was just wondering were there no forest parks up their way?
Oh right. There is Oxford Island but its shit to run around. Plus the majority of that Sarsfields team probably spent Saturday night there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on February 14, 2010, 10:23:13 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on February 14, 2010, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 14, 2010, 09:06:15 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on February 14, 2010, 08:40:33 PM
Is it true that there are no forests around Lurgan?
???

Sarsfields of Derrytrasna had to come the whole way down to Castlewellan forest park for training this morning. Was just wondering were there no forest parks up their way?

Does it really matter? Change is as good as anything, teams regulary look for ways of freshening things up, especially at this time of year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on February 14, 2010, 10:41:09 PM
Quote from: ogshead on February 14, 2010, 10:23:13 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on February 14, 2010, 09:13:33 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 14, 2010, 09:06:15 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on February 14, 2010, 08:40:33 PM
Is it true that there are no forests around Lurgan?
???

Sarsfields of Derrytrasna had to come the whole way down to Castlewellan forest park for training this morning. Was just wondering were there no forest parks up their way?

Does it really matter? Change is as good as anything, teams regulary look for ways of freshening things up, especially at this time of year

I was not for one minute being critical of this. A change of scenery is always good. Its not like Armagh men are barred from entering Down's fantastic and vast forest parks  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 15, 2010, 10:34:23 AM
Quote from: DownFanatic on February 14, 2010, 08:40:33 PM
Is it true that there are no forests around Lurgan?

No, false saan. There is a forest of O***ge bastids on the other side of town so we generally stay out of it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on February 15, 2010, 11:45:47 AM
Paddy O'Rourke and Steven McDonnell interviews:

http://armagh-gaa.com/Football/News/Armagh-v-Westmeath-audio-interviews.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 16, 2010, 03:53:55 PM
I posted this on another thread so just thought some of you local lads might be interested, all the money lifted is paid out. Last months prize money was £500 £250, £100, £50 and £20 which i thought was excellent for £20 and a nights craic.

Fri 26th Feb @ 9:00 there is a Texas Holdem poker night in the Clan na Gael club rooms. £20 in with one optional re-buy for £10. anything lifted is paid out.

Anyone is welcome (except tony Fearon ) if you're interested give me a PM and i'll give ya more details!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on February 16, 2010, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 16, 2010, 03:53:55 PM
I posted this on another thread so just thought some of you local lads might be interested, all the money lifted is paid out. Last months prize money was £500 £250, £100, £50 and £20 which i thought was excellent for £20 and a nights craic.

Fri 26th Feb @ 9:00 there is a Texas Holdem poker night in the Clan na Gael club rooms. £20 in with one optional re-buy for £10. anything lifted is paid out.

Anyone is welcome (except tony Fearon ) if you're interested give me a PM and i'll give ya more details!!!



And Tony France!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 16, 2010, 04:38:26 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on February 16, 2010, 04:32:37 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 16, 2010, 03:53:55 PM
I posted this on another thread so just thought some of you local lads might be interested, all the money lifted is paid out. Last months prize money was £500 £250, £100, £50 and £20 which i thought was excellent for £20 and a nights craic.

Fri 26th Feb @ 9:00 there is a Texas Holdem poker night in the Clan na Gael club rooms. £20 in with one optional re-buy for £10. anything lifted is paid out.

Anyone is welcome (except tony Fearon ) if you're interested give me a PM and i'll give ya more details!!!



And Tony France!!

:D :D :D :D :D Bombscare :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: only1clansinlurgan on February 16, 2010, 06:34:51 PM
am the daady of the texas holdem till then saan.. ;D ;D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on February 18, 2010, 12:08:41 PM
Tears, Laughter and Pain for Armagh Players as they "Shave and Dye" for the Irish Cancer Society. Click on the link below to view gallery. Photographer: John Merry

http://tinyurl.com/y8oeo8m
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 18, 2010, 01:45:46 PM
Some craic there i would say the pain threshold was going through the roof. lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: only1clansinlurgan on February 18, 2010, 03:09:03 PM
I would need my chest done pal...  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on February 18, 2010, 05:02:01 PM
WHAT ABOUT UR ASS BIG MAN ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: only1clansinlurgan on February 19, 2010, 05:39:07 PM
ur right wanderer saan.. nat my fault ma mum cums frum the country and me da is frum the town.. half sheep half man.lol :P :P :P :P ;)

i play lak 1 2!!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orchardkop on February 20, 2010, 01:53:15 PM
Does anyone have the league fixtures?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 21, 2010, 01:42:03 AM
Quote from: only1clansinlurgan on February 19, 2010, 05:39:07 PM
ur right wanderer saan.. nat my fault ma mum cums frum the country and me da is frum the town.. half sheep half man.lol :P :P :P :P ;)

i play lak 1 2!!! ;D

fcuk a duck
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 23, 2010, 11:20:11 AM
Bar Cross and the Ogs what other team are you expecting big things off this year?

I've a funny feeling Cruppin will improve big from last year as well as Dromintee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on February 23, 2010, 11:59:32 AM
Tony Scullion, All Ireland medal winner with Derry and Former All-Star will be taking a session on Wed 24th Feb at 7.30pm in Pearse Og Pk. Click link below for more details:

http://armagh-gaa.com/Football/News/Armagh-Coaching-the-Coaches-Workshop.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 23, 2010, 02:12:45 PM
Lads i'm not trying to be funny or sarcastic but i often have to laugh at things like this because like most other sports in the GAA we see players having great playing careers and then being put up as the next best manager. Now i believe that people who were decent players don't always make good manager. I think there is a whole new set of criteria required to be a coach/manager.

Another thing that really get on my tits is people who know absolutely fook all about Gaelic and they are coming out with all these coaching badges and trying to teach kids how to play the game when they have never kicked a ball themselves. I thinks some sort of happy medium has to be found. Are these coaching courses neccessary ? do we need to be spending money on trying to ensure people that really haven't a clue can obtain levels of coaching? Surely this money could be channelled into a centre of excellence that could exist on a regional basis where all  have access and the proper coaches are in place.

What's your opinions on this lads?


I fail to see where i have said in this post that newcomers to the Gaa are unwelcome???? I also fail to see where i have said that unless you have played you cannot coach. Infact Ogs head you are arguing the same point as me (I am saying that because you have played football all your life it doesn't make you a good coach) You for some reason are thinking that i am saying if you haven't played football then you can't coach. Don't know where you have got this out of my post.


I am all for new people coming into the GAA but FFS lads it has to be run right. Someone that has no experience at all shouldn't be allowed to come straight in and become a coach. IMO there should eb a set of criteria set aside for you to become a coach, the major one being some form of experience around football or playing football. As I'lldecide says we have people looking to take teams because they have a son or a daughter playing and thus they are going to be there anyway so they may aswell help. This is fine let the help with the setting up of drills or the filling of water bottles and all the other thankful task (that are also crucial and never get the respect they warrant) But they shouldn't be allowed straight into coaching the children. At a youg age is where the kids learn good and bad habits so it is crucial the best people are in place at these early levels. I think the university route is the way to go in some sort of informal set up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 23, 2010, 02:20:47 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 23, 2010, 02:12:45 PM
Lads i'm not trying to be funny or sarcastic but i often have to laugh at things like this because like most other sports in the GAA we see players having great playing careers and then being put up as the next best manager. Now i believe that people who were decent players don't always make good manager. I think there is a whole new set of criteria required to be a coach/manager.

Another thing that really get on my tits is people who know absolutely fook all about Gaelic and they are coming out with all these coaching badges and trying to teach kids how to play the game when they have never kicked a ball themselves. I thinks some sort of happy medium has to be found. Are these coaching courses neccessary ? do we need to be spending money on trying to ensure people that really haven't a clue can obtain levels of coaching? Surely this money could be channelled into a centre of excellence that could exist on a regional basis where all  have access and the proper coaches are in place.

What's your opinions on this lads?

you do have a point there saan, i was at a level 1 course there a few years ago and some of the breeds at it wouldn't have known what was inside the ball never mind trying to coach players :o. You don't have to have been a good footballer to be a good coach but 90% of the time that usually is the case as you've been there and got the T shirt and you know whats it all about. The guy who has never kicked a size 5 in his life what would he know about pressure situations on a pitch and what to tell some cub how to deal with it but i bet he'd be the biggest mouth at a match shouting on his opinion and such and such is shite etc etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 23, 2010, 02:38:59 PM
I did the level one last year and brought this issue up with the "coaches".  they said that with the increase in young players fathers getting involved in running underage teams they had to put some basic training process into place to cover their asses.  from this year on if you do not have at least level 1 done you cannot be involved in coaching any underage team.  They did say that the long term goal is to have a core of coaches in each county up to the level 3 standard with the possibiltiy of going into partnership with a university and having some form of Diploma/qualification in relation to training and promoting the GAA.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mhacadoir on February 23, 2010, 02:45:29 PM
any idea when the Armagh - Mayo hurling game is refixed for?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 23, 2010, 06:11:16 PM
The only problem with that university side Bc would be the terms set out to gain admittance. Possibly still leaving the door open for some head the balls to get into it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Trevor Hill on February 23, 2010, 07:08:25 PM
Quote from: mhacadoir on February 23, 2010, 02:45:29 PM
any idea when the Armagh - Mayo hurling game is refixed for?

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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 23, 2010, 07:21:12 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 23, 2010, 02:12:45 PM
Lads i'm not trying to be funny or sarcastic but i often have to laugh at things like this because like most other sports in the GAA we see players having great playing careers and then being put up as the next best manager. Now i believe that people who were decent players don't always make good manager. I think there is a whole new set of criteria required to be a coach/manager.

Another thing that really get on my tits is people who know absolutely fook all about Gaelic and they are coming out with all these coaching badges and trying to teach kids how to play the game when they have never kicked a ball themselves. I thinks some sort of happy medium has to be found. Are these coaching courses neccessary ? do we need to be spending money on trying to ensure people that really haven't a clue can obtain levels of coaching? Surely this money could be channelled into a centre of excellence that could exist on a regional basis where all  have access and the proper coaches are in place.

What's your opinions on this lads?
We should never complain about people getting involved in the gaa when they weren't previously and if they're willing to go on courses fair play.  They should be welcomed. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on February 23, 2010, 09:36:22 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on February 23, 2010, 07:21:12 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 23, 2010, 02:12:45 PM
Lads i'm not trying to be funny or sarcastic but i often have to laugh at things like this because like most other sports in the GAA we see players having great playing careers and then being put up as the next best manager. Now i believe that people who were decent players don't always make good manager. I think there is a whole new set of criteria required to be a coach/manager.

Another thing that really get on my tits is people who know absolutely fook all about Gaelic and they are coming out with all these coaching badges and trying to teach kids how to play the game when they have never kicked a ball themselves. I thinks some sort of happy medium has to be found. Are these coaching courses neccessary ? do we need to be spending money on trying to ensure people that really haven't a clue can obtain levels of coaching? Surely this money could be channelled into a centre of excellence that could exist on a regional basis where all  have access and the proper coaches are in place.

What's your opinions on this lads?
We should never complain about people getting involved in the gaa when they weren't previously and if they're willing to go on courses fair play.  They should be welcomed.

I agree pints. Totally shocked by the above statement. I have always wanted to be involved in the GAA but was never a great player. Coaching was my other option and it was great to remain involved that way. Just because I was not a great footballer/hurler doesn't mean that I should walk away
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 24, 2010, 09:57:04 AM
Ogshead thats fair enough and as i stated you would prop fall in the 10% grade that could go on and make a coach, as you stated you were always interested in GAA but never a good player that makes a qer difference from the guy who has never played GAA and has not watched a match in 15 years and then his son shows an interest and he decides he wants to coach and follow his cub thru the grades yet the guy wouldn't know if the ball was blew up or stuffed.

The stats don't lie and 90% of all managers out there are ex players that played at a high level that doesn't mean that you wont make it as a coach it just means it will be more difficult for you. The experience you gain from being in the changing rooms on big match days and watching how all the different individuals react to it and being out on the pitch during a game when it's in the melting pot is experience that you can't be coached but have to experience it to know what its like.

If your lucky enough to get coaching and are part of a team involved in championship matches and crucial league matches then you will gain experience from that but the problem is majority of teams will appoint a guy who has experience from playing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 24, 2010, 10:17:43 AM
Quote from: illdecide on February 24, 2010, 09:57:04 AM
Ogshead thats fair enough and as i stated you would prop fall in the 10% grade that could go on and make a coach, as you stated you were always interested in GAA but never a good player that makes a qer difference from the guy who has never played GAA and has not watched a match in 15 years and then his son shows an interest and he decides he wants to coach and follow his cub thru the grades yet the guy wouldn't know if the ball was blew up or stuffed.

The stats don't lie and 90% of all managers out there are ex players that played at a high level that doesn't mean that you wont make it as a coach it just means it will be more difficult for you. The experience you gain from being in the changing rooms on big match days and watching how all the different individuals react to it and being out on the pitch during a game when it's in the melting pot is experience that you can't be coached but have to experience it to know what its like.

If your lucky enough to get coaching and are part of a team involved in championship matches and crucial league matches then you will gain experience from that but the problem is majority of teams will appoint a guy who has experience from playing

The thing is though that the lads who are coaching young lads because their son is involved are not generally the main men involved and if they are that is the clubs fault for allowing that to happen.  I agree that is is easier to understand the ups and downs of a game/team if you have played it but it is also important to encourage others to build up the knowledge. 

The main problem I have with "parents" getting involved is when some lad land in to help coaching and spend the majority of their time with their own kid and trying to live their failed careeres through him/her.  I coach 10-12 year olds at the minute and their have been one or two occassions where this has happened.  It is hard not to tell them to fcuk off so I try to keep them occupied by getting them to set out the drills, fill the water bottles, kick the balls back from behind the goals etc.  The can do this and shout encouragement till their hearts content.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on February 24, 2010, 11:42:10 AM
Win coaching courses are absolutely essential in every sport. Merely having knowledge and experience from playing a sport is not enough to be able to coach successfully. There is more to coaching than knowledge of the technical skills involved (although this is extremely important especially at young ages) The problem here is not in investing time and money in courses and opening them up to all sorts - the prolem is in the quality of the courses and their objectives. Ive completed my level one in the GAA and the course is very deficient in a lot of areas that are important. In comparison to other sports especially rugby the coach development within the GAA is very very poor and needs to be addressed.

I would advise prospective coaches to search further afield for coach education and development programmes. There are a number of high quality ones around that are not sport specific for example there is one being run by Jordanstown March, April and May which leads to a recognized coaching diploma. This course is very comprehensive and covers all the areas relevant to effective coaching of athletes and teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 24, 2010, 11:50:01 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on February 24, 2010, 11:42:10 AM
Win coaching courses are absolutely essential in every sport. Merely having knowledge and experience from playing a sport is not enough to be able to coach successfully. There is more to coaching than knowledge of the technical skills involved (although this is extremely important especially at young ages) The problem here is not in investing time and money in courses and opening them up to all sorts - the prolem is in the quality of the courses and their objectives. Ive completed my level one in the GAA and the course is very deficient in a lot of areas that are important. In comparison to other sports especially rugby the coach development within the GAA is very very poor and needs to be addressed.

I would advise prospective coaches to search further afield for coach education and development programmes. There are a number of high quality ones around that are not sport specific for example there is one being run by Jordanstown March, April and May which leads to a recognized coaching diploma. This course is very comprehensive and covers all the areas relevant to effective coaching of athletes and teams.

I agree level 1 is basic, but it is supposed to be to facilitate the "newbie" coaches who won't go beyond coaching their own kids teams.  Once you move up to the next levels they are more comprehensive and better structured with more "real" coaches on board.  There is a major market for this I believe and if the 2 Governments got their fingers out and worked witha few Universities to create Sports Centres of Excellence they could help towards a very helathy and profitable future.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on February 24, 2010, 11:56:42 AM
There are plans for this BC1 and to be fair there are very good facilities around eg J-Town and cookstown. There are also plans for feeder centres to be established - essentially muitisport centres of excellence that will feed the very best athletes into SINI. This is great and essential for elite sport development but what about athletes who arent elite?? or better still who arent at the minute but with the right investment could be?? I would be an advocate of casting the net wider especially at underage level as athletes develop at different rates. To that end grassroots coaching in any sport is absoultely essential, my point however is that in our own sport this is of little quality at the minute in general. (Obviously there are some clubs/counties that are way ahead of the norm)It needs to be developed and it needs to start considering other vital components of successful/effective coaching other than the ability to coach technical and basic skills. (Remember im not saying this isnt essential im just saying theres a lot more to it)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 24, 2010, 12:03:58 PM
I agree with you totally and if the GAA have any vision about how they want to develop they will take a strong armed approach to develop the youth structures.  It is though inherent on the clubs as well to take their own initiative and appoint committee members who are "training/development directors" - who either have a sub committee or panel of coaches who regularly meet to assess how their training is developing.  This may seem like over kill but it happens in soccer clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on February 24, 2010, 12:10:18 PM
Its the first thing I would suggest, my own club has a fulltime paid development officer so hopefully in tiem we will see the benefits of this structure. These people have to be properly trained however whcih reinforces my initial point - we need to sort out our own coach development however I would also suggest attending multidisiplinary courses etc as some of the methods, skills, techniques and philosophies that can be learned from other sports could be very useful in our own.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on February 24, 2010, 12:23:28 PM
Why do think the gaa is well ahead of most sports. It comes down to proper structures including coaching courses for all levels and a requirement for all new coaches to complete a basic foundation course and in particular child protection at the start. In relation to the course being run this week by the ulster council and carried out by tony scullion let me assure you that he is without doubt one of the best coaches and indeed gaa men in ireland. Maybe if some senior current managers/coaches attended they would see why they cant take their teams to the next level. It is interesting to note that most of recent successful club managers donal murtagh in particular are regularily seen at these coaching courses. (the man who knows it all is a liar, so get to your coaching courses.)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on February 24, 2010, 12:51:34 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on February 24, 2010, 12:23:28 PM
Why do think the gaa is well ahead of most sports. It comes down to proper structures including coaching courses for all levels and a requirement for all new coaches to complete a basic foundation course and in particular child protection at the start. In relation to the course being run this week by the ulster council and carried out by tony scullion let me assure you that he is without doubt one of the best coaches and indeed gaa men in ireland. Maybe if some senior current managers/coaches attended they would see why they cant take their teams to the next level. It is interesting to note that most of recent successful club managers donal murtagh in particular are regularily seen at these coaching courses. (the man who knows it all is a liar, so get to your coaching courses.)

Just to correct you, this course is run and funded by Armagh County Board for all coaches in Armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on February 24, 2010, 03:03:52 PM
Tonight's workshop with Tony Scullion has been cancelled due to adverse weather conditions.  Sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 24, 2010, 04:01:48 PM
Lads i'm not trying to be funny or sarcastic but i often have to laugh at things like this because like most other sports in the GAA we see players having great playing careers and then being put up as the next best manager. Now i believe that people who were decent players don't always make good manager. I think there is a whole new set of criteria required to be a coach/manager.

Another thing that really get on my tits is people who know absolutely fook all about Gaelic and they are coming out with all these coaching badges and trying to teach kids how to play the game when they have never kicked a ball themselves. I thinks some sort of happy medium has to be found. Are these coaching courses neccessary ? do we need to be spending money on trying to ensure people that really haven't a clue can obtain levels of coaching? Surely this money could be channelled into a centre of excellence that could exist on a regional basis where all  have access and the proper coaches are in place.

What's your opinions on this lads?


I fail to see where i have said in this post that newcomers to the Gaa are unwelcome? I also fail to see where i have said that unless you have played you cannot coach. Infact Ogs head you are arguing the same point as me (I am saying that because you have played football all your life it doesn't make you a good coach) You for some reason are thinking that i am saying if you haven't played football then you can't coach. Don't know where you have got this out of my post.


I am all for new people coming into the GAA but FFS lads it has to be run right. Someone that has no experience at all shouldn't be allowed to come straight in and become a coach. IMO there should eb a set of criteria set aside for you to become a coach, the major one being some form of experience around football or playing football. As I'lldecide says we have people looking to take teams because they have a son or a daughter playing and thus they are going to be there anyway so they may aswell help. This is fine let the help with the setting up of drills or the filling of water bottles and all the other thankful task (that are also crucial and never get the respect they warrant) But they shouldn't be allowed straight into coaching the children. At a youg age is where the kids learn good and bad habits so it is crucial the best people are in place at these early levels. I think the university route is the way to go in some sort of informal set up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hound of ulster on February 24, 2010, 04:14:51 PM
Lads what are we talking about here, , senior or underage, if its senior then i agree that someone with no experience would struggle if they hadnt played, But if your talking about underage, then your being very harsh on these peolple , granted ive came across a few head the balls, but there is many of them ex players as not, in fact maybe more, these guys think that they know all the answers. we should welcome all newcomers, and the courses certainly give them the basics and r better than nothing.  up to u12 its go games  and there would be no need to have been in pressure games . so lighten up .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mhacadoir on February 24, 2010, 05:32:38 PM
Quote from: Trevor Hill on February 23, 2010, 07:08:25 PM
Quote from: mhacadoir on February 23, 2010, 02:45:29 PM
any idea when the Armagh - Mayo hurling game is refixed for?

Saturday 6 March
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that is going to be a tight trip for people looking to go to both!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: irunthev on February 25, 2010, 01:21:17 PM
Lads I'm looking for a bit of historical info here, some of you more knowledgeable guys might have it tucked away somewhere in the back of your minds or in a programme collection.

London and Armagh have played a few times in the Nat League.... ridiculous as it seems, but that's Croke Park logic for you.

I know they played in the 97-98 season and again in 2002, but I'm convinced they played in Ruislip in Nov 2000 but can't find any trace of the result.

Anyone able to oblige please.

IM please if you have any info.

Thanks lads .... and lassies
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on February 25, 2010, 03:03:06 PM
http://armagh-gaa.com/Football/News/Athletic-Grounds-Phase-4-work-begins.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 25, 2010, 03:34:33 PM
Quote from: irunthev on February 25, 2010, 01:21:17 PM
Lads I'm looking for a bit of historical info here, some of you more knowledgeable guys might have it tucked away somewhere in the back of your minds or in a programme collection.

London and Armagh have played a few times in the Nat League.... ridiculous as it seems, but that's Croke Park logic for you.

I know they played in the 97-98 season and again in 2002, but I'm convinced they played in Ruislip in Nov 2000 but can't find any trace of the result.

Anyone able to oblige please.

IM please if you have any info.

Thanks lads .... and lassies

The 2000 / 2001 NFL would have been the campaign that was badly interupted by Foot & MOuth, we were in division 2 under the old 2A & 2B system so might have played London. If we played them in 2002 then we were probably in the same division in 00/01. Can't recall the game at all.

In 97/98 I think all 4 division were of equal strength so the best teams were in with the weakest (not that we were amongs the best at that stage) so that's how we played London - possibly at Davitt Park? They fixed the draw that year I think to allow a 50th anniversary game between Kerry and Cavan at the Polo Grounds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: subkeeper on February 25, 2010, 11:48:26 PM
Killeavy Sevens , 3rd April 2010

Invitations have gone out to all clubs in Armagh for this years event.
We also intend to have a plate competition this year.
We hope to see u all there   :-X

http://www.killeavygaa.com/?p=292
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on February 25, 2010, 11:57:05 PM
Quote from: irunthev on February 25, 2010, 01:21:17 PM
Lads I'm looking for a bit of historical info here, some of you more knowledgeable guys might have it tucked away somewhere in the back of your minds or in a programme collection.

London and Armagh have played a few times in the Nat League.... ridiculous as it seems, but that's Croke Park logic for you.

I know they played in the 97-98 season and again in 2002, but I'm convinced they played in Ruislip in Nov 2000 but can't find any trace of the result.

Anyone able to oblige please.

IM please if you have any info.

Thanks lads .... and lassies

Looked through a few old programmes but all I could find was a fixture list for the 2000/2001 league campaign, which showed that Armagh were due to play London at home in the last round of fixtures on 25/03/01. As TAM has pointed out, that was the year of the Foot and Mouth outbreak so I doubt that match actually took place. Don't remember it anyway.

According to the same programme, Westmeath were the only county to play London away in November 2000.

Crossmaglen might have paid a visit or two to Ruislip around that time to play club quarter finals. Although they didn't win the Ulster championship in 2000.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on February 26, 2010, 12:54:38 PM
i see the OC HAS CLOSED DOWN PERMENTALY  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagho9 on February 26, 2010, 01:06:51 PM
According to gaainfo.com Armagh have played London twice in the last 20 years.  2002 and 1997.  Both games Armagh scored 4-17
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 26, 2010, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: torres on February 26, 2010, 12:54:38 PM
i see the OC HAS CLOSED DOWN PERMENTALY  :o

Hope it stays closed this time because this opening and closing craic is getting very boring.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on February 26, 2010, 10:04:31 PM
wots the craic with orchard county why it shut!!!!!!!!! ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on February 26, 2010, 11:23:45 PM

Cos of you...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on February 26, 2010, 11:45:20 PM
or maybe cos of assholes like u!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  simple question needed simple answer NOT ANSWERED BY A SIMPLE
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 27, 2010, 12:40:52 PM
Quote from: Uladh on February 26, 2010, 11:23:45 PM

Cos of you...

"Will blow me down" where have you been saan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on February 27, 2010, 06:32:01 PM
any clubs playing challenge match,es this weekend . granemore travel to ardboe .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 27, 2010, 10:04:17 PM
Granemore should get a tanking there and i would say there be a bit of niggle in that one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on February 27, 2010, 10:10:18 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 27, 2010, 10:04:17 PM
Granemore should get a tanking there and i would say there be a bit of niggle in that one.
so what IF they get a so called tanking it is only a challenge game after all and why would there be any niggle in it ? the,ve never played eachother before and no county players will be on show .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on February 27, 2010, 10:51:40 PM
It's was a total disgrace at tonight's fundraising for armagh. very few turned up and only 1 county player also attended. Armagh need to do something about advertising event like this as some people make the effect attend. In the end it had to be called off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on February 27, 2010, 11:19:21 PM
no idea to wot you refer ......................................... any clues?????????????????????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on February 27, 2010, 11:22:09 PM
yea a night of the races for fundraiseing for armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 28, 2010, 12:37:04 AM
Quote from: torres on February 27, 2010, 06:32:01 PM
any clubs playing challenge match,es this weekend . granemore travel to ardboe .

We beat Brocagh by a few. Only a Junior side so not particularly impressive but we were missing 6 county players and another couple through injury. Early days!

Where was the night at the races?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on February 28, 2010, 01:23:19 AM
Thought I saw it advertised somewhere that it was to be at Silverbridge. Sounds like they should've got onto Dromintee about how to promote a fundraiser.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 28, 2010, 01:31:36 AM
Is this a lesson that when it comes to promoting and attending fundraising nights, GAA people are more committed when its their club rather than their county?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: camloughlad on February 28, 2010, 10:22:59 AM
Yes.I would rather go to a club one than a county one at least in your club you know where the money is going to
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on February 28, 2010, 11:25:58 AM
Quote from: camloughlad on February 28, 2010, 10:22:59 AM
Yes.I would rather go to a club one than a county one at least in your club you know where the money is going to
have to agree with the last few posts reguarding this issue , the club always comes first .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: camloughlad on February 28, 2010, 12:20:10 PM
does any one know if the cruppen game is on today and were
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 28, 2010, 07:36:41 PM
Quote from: fan01 on February 27, 2010, 10:51:40 PM
It's was a total disgrace at tonight's fundraising for armagh. very few turned up and only 1 county player also attended. Armagh need to do something about advertising event like this as some people make the effect attend. In the end it had to be called off.
It doesnt seem like it was very well advertised as very few people seem to have heard anything about it.

on another note - when are they getting the money from Croke Park (of have they got it?) from the soccer/rugby and what's the plans to divide it or is there any yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on February 28, 2010, 07:59:37 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 27, 2010, 10:04:17 PM
Granemore should get a tanking there and i would say there be a bit of niggle in that one.
granemore lost to ardboe by 4 pts while giving all the panel a  runout , no niggle just a good game of football , ardboe had the 2 mc guigans playing . toner did,nt play .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on February 28, 2010, 08:12:50 PM
See Ciaran BOWL Conlon has fallen out with Silverbridge again.
He has left them and taken up playing for another club out in Dundalk. This time hes lining out for clan na gaels...
Disappointing considering he seemed to be in good shape. no word of reasons for leaving this time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 28, 2010, 08:33:37 PM
Quote from: the scenic route on February 28, 2010, 08:12:50 PM
See Ciaran BOWL Conlon has fallen out with Silverbridge again.
He has left them and taken up playing for another club out in Dundalk. This time hes lining out for clan na gaels...
Disappointing considering he seemed to be in good shape. no word of reasons for leaving this time
::)
I would have thought if anyone knew the reasons it would be you. 

Anyway, what's one more.  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on February 28, 2010, 09:21:44 PM
was at the al tennyson b tournament in maghery 2day teams were maghery siverbridge pearse ogs and carrickmore maghery beat bridge and carmen beat the ogs in 3/4th pace playoff bridge beat ogs and in a great final maghery beat carmen 1-14 1-10. while both teams in the final had a few seniors lined out it was a great days football and craic had by all. ps if there was a player of the tournament big jarlaith burns would have been a deserving winner showing he hasnt lost his catching ability giving a few of the younger lads a hard time by fielding most kickouts in both games a true legend and a great gaa man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 28, 2010, 09:26:31 PM
Quote from: the scenic route on February 28, 2010, 08:12:50 PM
See Ciaran BOWL Conlon has fallen out with Silverbridge again.
He has left them and taken up playing for another club out in Dundalk. This time hes lining out for clan na gaels...
Disappointing considering he seemed to be in good shape. no word of reasons for leaving this time

And after us doing the neighbourly thing and providing second division football for the Forde Cross natives. We'll not be fit to save yis again ya know.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on February 28, 2010, 09:37:23 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on February 28, 2010, 09:21:44 PM
was at the al tennyson b tournament in maghery 2day teams were maghery siverbridge pearse ogs and carrickmore maghery beat bridge and carmen beat the ogs in 3/4th pace playoff bridge beat ogs and in a great final maghery beat carmen 1-14 1-10. while both teams in the final had a few seniors lined out it was a great days football and craic had by all. ps if there was a player of the tournament big jarlaith burns would have been a deserving winner showing he hasnt lost his catching ability giving a few of the younger lads a hard time by fielding most kickouts in both games a true legend and a great gaa man.
Ah if he just had a younger pair of legs...

Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 28, 2010, 09:26:31 PM
Quote from: the scenic route on February 28, 2010, 08:12:50 PM
See Ciaran BOWL Conlon has fallen out with Silverbridge again.
He has left them and taken up playing for another club out in Dundalk. This time hes lining out for clan na gaels...
Disappointing considering he seemed to be in good shape. no word of reasons for leaving this time

And after us doing the neighbourly thing and providing second division football for the Forde Cross natives. We'll not be fit to save yis again ya know.
It's the least yous could do and I'll not even mention the cheap cars and car parts yous were keeping to yourselves.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Club Rossa on March 01, 2010, 09:13:39 AM
Ardboe won by 7 points torres,0-16 to 0-9.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on March 01, 2010, 09:23:22 AM
Quote from: Club Rossa on March 01, 2010, 09:13:39 AM
Ardboe won by 7 points torres,0-16 to 0-9.
my mistake :-[  , the scoreline is irrevalent as it was our first run out of the season and were minus 5/6 regulars , good runout all the same ,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Club Rossa on March 01, 2010, 09:32:58 AM
Yeah was a good hard game,and considering it was the first game for both sides,it was of a fairly decent standard.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on March 01, 2010, 03:12:38 PM
Anyone know how Armagh U-21s fared against Laois in a challenge game at the weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 01, 2010, 08:19:24 PM
Quote from: torres on March 01, 2010, 09:23:22 AM
Quote from: Club Rossa on March 01, 2010, 09:13:39 AM
Ardboe won by 7 points torres,0-16 to 0-9.
my mistake :-[  , the scoreline is irrevalent as it was our first run out of the season and were minus 5/6 regulars , good runout all the same ,

well caught saan lol :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on March 02, 2010, 10:54:56 AM
armagh u21s beat laois by 3 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on March 02, 2010, 02:21:54 PM
Cheers, Downtown.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on March 03, 2010, 06:59:58 PM
senic..........ciaran conlon played for clans after they were reduced to 14 men (no subs).

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on March 04, 2010, 06:23:13 PM
i see laois are missing 5 regulars for the armagh game this weekend while were nearly back to full strength , should be 2 pts in the bag   8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 04, 2010, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: torres on March 04, 2010, 06:23:13 PM
i see laois are missing 5 regulars for the armagh game this weekend while were nearly back to full strength , should be 2 pts in the bag   8)

Should be but Armagh have a habit of making easy things difficult.

Do Armagh u-21's play donegal this wed in Omagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on March 04, 2010, 08:35:24 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 04, 2010, 08:25:32 PM
Do Armagh u-21's play donegal this wed in Omagh?

It's not on til the 24th (http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=15105.msg714855#msg714855). Where did you hear it was to be in Omagh? I assumed it'd be in Cross as it appears Armagh were out of the hat first.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on March 04, 2010, 09:42:41 PM
24th is a Wednesday AFS, defo not in Cross then..........
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on March 04, 2010, 09:52:37 PM
Armagh were complete shite last year against Laois. Hopefully better this time.


BTW, anyone see the GAA mad armagh farmer in the Lidl leaflet advert?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on March 04, 2010, 09:55:07 PM
Quote from: mackers on March 04, 2010, 09:42:41 PM
24th is a Wednesday AFS, defo not in Cross then..........

Good spot. It would be a pity to have to cede home advantage. Surely there are other floodlit options in the county, especially since this game won't attract a massive crowd.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 04, 2010, 11:48:50 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 04, 2010, 09:55:07 PM
Quote from: mackers on March 04, 2010, 09:42:41 PM
24th is a Wednesday AFS, defo not in Cross then..........

Good spot. It would be a pity to have to cede home advantage. Surely there are other floodlit options in the county, especially since this game won't attract a massive crowd.

And if we do cede home advantage surely we should take the match to Newry rather than Omagh.
Title: http://www.meathchronicle.ie/sport/matchreports/articles/2010/03/03/3995272-step
Post by: drici on March 05, 2010, 12:47:04 AM
Stephen clinches draw
by Jimmy Geoghegan

Meath 1-20  Armagh 2-17
(http://www.clydeandforthmedia.co.uk/crop/280/210/images/75/1267616200.jpg)
James Boyle in action for Meath against Armagh in the NHL Div 3A at Páirc Tailteann on Sunday.


There was a time when a hurling contest between Meath and Armagh guaranteed one result - and it wasn't a victory for the Orchard County.

Now times have changed and the transformation was clearly demonstrated in this contest at Páirc Tailteann on Sunday when a new-look Meath side struggled to keep in touch with a lively Armagh outfit in the NHL Div 3A.

Once again Meath, who made three changes from the team that beat London, turned to Stephen Clynch to come up with a little piece of magic and rescue them. This time around he produced the late point that earned the draw from the jaws of defeat.

What would Meath do without Clynch? His repertoire of skill makes him the type of player who would not be out of place with the likes of Tipperary, or even the Cats.

He conjured up six points against the tenacious Armagh side which included that late free that he converted from about 35 metres out to pull his side back on level terms.

Armagh would not have been flattered by a victory as they dominated for lengthy spells. They produced some fast-paced hurling and combined considerable know-how and skill with a determination that stretched their opponents.

The Ulster side enjoyed a 2-10 to 1-10 lead at the break and despite playing with the aid of a stiff breeze, Meath were unable to lift their game enough to stay with their opponents.

Last year Meath defeated Armagh, and with considerable comfort. This time around it was different and Meath will be glad of the point earned as they prepare for what promises to be a stern test against Kerry on Sunday week. Meath could be without Alan Nestor for that contest as he was carried off late in this contest with what looked like a nasty leg injury.

Sunday's game was almost four minutes into added time when Armagh's Cathal Carvill slotted over from long-range to edge his team one point in front.

His score was well-taken and would have been a worthy winner of any game.

The denizens of the press box - and doubtless some members of the paltry crowd - were expecting the referee to blow the final whistle. Instead Meath were allowed another roll of the dice.

The play moved on and Paul Fagan won the ball in his own half. He passed to Clynch who delivered onto Derek Muldoon who was fouled. At least Offaly referee Ciaran Groome thought so although some of the Armagh players protested vigorously.

Up stepped Clynch to easily split the posts with that easy style of his to earn Meath the draw and a league point that could yet prove crucial.

Most of the real drama in this contest was packed into the last 10 minutes or so with Clynch applying the finishing touch.

Maybe there was an element of taking things for granted in the Meath camp, but Armagh should not be underestimated this year as they were fit and eager and clearly well prepared.

At times TJ Reilly's men gave frees away too easily and they were all too often second to the loose ball. Armagh were also capable of taking the chances that came their way although if they had been a little more clinical Meath would have been staring at a certain defeat.

The balance of the play flowed both ways in the opening half and the sides were level a number times before Armagh took a decisive step forward after just nine minutes.

Their pacy forward Kieran McKernan lacked nothing in sharpness when he won possession close to the Meath goals and let fly with a stinging shot.

Stephen Quinn produced an superb save, but the sliotar broke kindly for McKernan and he rifled to the net from close range. Ger Enright found the net for Armagh for the second time just before the break.

In between Armagh's goals Meath also made the net dance. It was a product of an enterprising move they were capable of producing from time to time.

Mark Mullally and Kevin Keena were involved in getting the ball to Clynch who showed vision and perception to cross for the unmarked Peter Durnin who fired home from 20 metres.

Throughout the second-half every time Meath threatened to edge ahead Armagh hit back. On 63 minutes James Boyle stormed forward to score an excellent point. Immediately afterwards Armagh managed a fine score from Enright.

Neil Hackett ended up with seven points, five frees while Joey Keena and Horan were others to get on the scoresheet. The home side were also helped by gritty performances from Enda Fitzgerald, Michael Foley, Paul Fagan and Mark Lynch.

However it was left to the classy hurler from Kilmessan to slot over that late free that earned Meath a draw they just about deserved.

Armagh - J Burke; B Mallon, P McArdle, F McMullan; N Curry, P McCormack, B McCann (0-2); B Breen, K McKernan (1-1); R Gaffney, J Corvan (0-1), C Carvill (0-4); P Breen (0-2), G Enright (1-3), F Bradley (0-4). Sub - C McCann for Gaffney.

Meath - S Quinn; B Coughlan, E Fitzgerald, M Foley; M Horan, P Fagan, M Lynch; S Clynch (0-6), J Boyle (0-2); P Durnin (1-2), N Hackett (0-7), P Garvey; J Keena (0-1), N Horan (0-2), M Mullally. Subs - K Keena for Garvey, D Donoghue for Lynch, A Nestor for Hackett, D Muldoon for Nestor.

Referee - Ciaran Groome (Offaly).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 05, 2010, 02:10:29 PM
I was at the Mc Davitt cup final yesterday in Healy park and a tyrone lad approached me and asked me was i coming back up on wed night. To which i asked him what for and he told me that Armagh where playing Donegal in the u-21's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on March 05, 2010, 04:45:06 PM
Win, just had a peep at the ulster league, pre-season not goin too well at the moment? Told u it was a crap league anyway ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on March 05, 2010, 08:52:30 PM
how can u honestly say ulster league crap league.   You obviously were never really involved in it !!!!!   surely better than trailing teams to the likes of Fintona or anywhere else for friendlies  :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 05, 2010, 10:21:44 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on March 05, 2010, 04:45:06 PM
Win, just had a peep at the ulster league, pre-season not goin too well at the moment? Told u it was a crap league anyway ;)
Don't you worry saan we're saving the big performances for when the league starts back! The ulster league is very good imo though. Properly officiated games against Division1 teams from other counties. good chance to blood players and better than fannying about trying to organise challenge games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on March 06, 2010, 10:05:41 AM
Dodgy division 1 teams in a lot of cases. Have been in it in the past, wait to see the amount of teams not fulfilling their final games now they cant win it and alot of teams not having full squads due to county games. It should be renamed the challenge league. not too many of last years county champs r/up or big clubs in it except of course derry teams who struggle to get challenge matches further south anyway. fintona might beat u at the minute ;) saan/fitz dont be all sensitive just an observation, it must be crap if yous are not top of your division :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on March 06, 2010, 09:35:23 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 04, 2010, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: torres on March 04, 2010, 06:23:13 PM
i see laois are missing 5 regulars for the armagh game this weekend while were nearly back to full strength , should be 2 pts in the bag   8)

Should be but Armagh have a habit of making easy things difficult.

laois 12 - 13 armagh  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 07, 2010, 11:47:25 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on March 06, 2010, 10:05:41 AM
Dodgy division 1 teams in a lot of cases. Have been in it in the past, wait to see the amount of teams not fulfilling their final games now they cant win it and alot of teams not having full squads due to county games. It should be renamed the challenge league. not too many of last years county champs r/up or big clubs in it except of course derry teams who struggle to get challenge matches further south anyway. fintona might beat u at the minute ;) saan/fitz dont be all sensitive just an observation, it must be crap if yous are not top of your division :)
Now now I wasn't being sensitive ??? Just defending what I think as an excellent pre-season competition! Maybe it's you being sensitive after that wee rant!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: GAAsupporter on March 07, 2010, 01:36:07 PM
Anyone know the winners of the Armagh Scor Sinsear Finals??

If anyone does...please post them!

;D

Thanks!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 07, 2010, 02:45:25 PM
Quote from: GAAsupporter on March 07, 2010, 01:36:07 PM
Anyone know the winners of the Armagh Scor Sinsear Finals??

If anyone does...please post them!

;D

Thanks!

The final is tonight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: GAAsupporter on March 07, 2010, 02:59:32 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 07, 2010, 02:45:25 PM
Quote from: GAAsupporter on March 07, 2010, 01:36:07 PM
Anyone know the winners of the Armagh Scor Sinsear Finals??

If anyone does...please post them!

;D

Thanks!

The final is tonight.

Will u be able to post the winners after??
:)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on March 07, 2010, 04:25:29 PM
anybody any info on pat mc cmahon matches 2day!!!! ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 07, 2010, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: true on March 07, 2010, 04:25:29 PM
anybody any info on pat mc cmahon matches 2day!!!! ???
Tir na nOg beat Sarsfields and Tones had a sneaky 1 pt win over St Paul's who i am reliably informed missed two penalties.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on March 07, 2010, 07:48:12 PM
bellaghy bt granemore by 3 pts .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on March 07, 2010, 08:56:21 PM
maghery beat annaghmore who gave a good account of themselves. was at tones pauls game and st pauls did miss 2 pens same player drivin the ball high over the bar on both times ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on March 07, 2010, 08:58:36 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on March 07, 2010, 07:42:28 PM
Quote from: true on March 07, 2010, 04:25:29 PM
anybody any info on pat mc cmahon matches 2day!!!! ???
Tir na nOg beat Sarsfields and Tones had a sneaky 1 pt win over St Paul's who i am reliably informed missed two penalties.
really tones only win by point!!!!!! thought they wld hve done better must hve been lucky enough
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Pearse og on March 07, 2010, 10:25:36 PM
Pearse Og 2:15
Monaghan Harps 0:08
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on March 08, 2010, 08:55:16 AM
torres are u sure of the score u seem to be gettin the additions wrong recently. in the pat mcmahon cup?? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 08, 2010, 09:30:47 AM
Quote from: GAAsupporter on March 07, 2010, 02:59:32 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 07, 2010, 02:45:25 PM
Quote from: GAAsupporter on March 07, 2010, 01:36:07 PM
Anyone know the winners of the Armagh Scor Sinsear Finals??

If anyone does...please post them!

;D

Thanks!

The final is tonight.

Will u be able to post the winners after??
:)

Winners from Armagh last night were;

Ceili Dancing: Dromintee
Set Dancing: Dromintee
Solo Singing: Girl with a harp, can't remember where she was from
Recitation: Girl from Carrickcruppen, very high standard in this, thought the two from our club were excellent as well
Instrumental: Think it was Madden but wouldn't swear to it
Ballad Group: Cullyhanna  :)
Quiz: Silverbridge - performed superbly, only missed one question all night
Novelty Act: Silverbridge
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on March 08, 2010, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on March 08, 2010, 08:55:16 AM
torres are u sure of the score u seem to be gettin the additions wrong recently. in the pat mcmahon cup?? ;)
ok wanderer , you NITpicker i,ll rephrase just for you , granemore were beaten by bellaghy  ;D and it was a random post nothing to do with the pat mc mahon cup  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ArmaghGAAforum on March 08, 2010, 04:11:10 PM
Quote from: true on March 07, 2010, 04:25:29 PM
anybody any info on pat mc cmahon matches 2day!!!! ???

Eire Og 1-4, Clann Eireann 1-10,
Wolfe Tones 1-11, St Pauls 0-13,
Tir Na Og 0.12, Sarsfields 0-8,
Maghery 0.15, Annaghmore 0-10
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 08, 2010, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on March 07, 2010, 08:56:21 PM
maghery beat annaghmore who gave a good account of themselves. was at tones pauls game and st pauls did miss 2 pens same player drivin the ball high over the bar on both times ::)

2 different penalty takers.  st pauls did well think they will have a strong season this year.  more about fitness aqnd establishing a gameplan at this stage of season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 09, 2010, 04:36:36 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on March 08, 2010, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on March 07, 2010, 08:56:21 PM
maghery beat annaghmore who gave a good account of themselves. was at tones pauls game and st pauls did miss 2 pens same player drivin the ball high over the bar on both times ::)

2 different penalty takers.  st pauls did well think they will have a strong season this year.  more about fitness aqnd establishing a gameplan at this stage of season
No match report for us stubbsie?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on March 09, 2010, 04:43:49 PM
Quote from: torres on March 08, 2010, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on March 08, 2010, 08:55:16 AM
torres are u sure of the score u seem to be gettin the additions wrong recently. in the pat mcmahon cup?? ;)
ok wanderer , you NITpicker i,ll rephrase just for you , granemore were beaten by bellaghy  ;D and it was a random post nothing to do with the pat mc mahon cup  ::)
tut tut torres gettin sensitive too. ps hows the new management gettin on. will yous retain them for the season, are they gettin good reviews?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on March 09, 2010, 05:27:21 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on March 09, 2010, 04:43:49 PM
Quote from: torres on March 08, 2010, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on March 08, 2010, 08:55:16 AM
torres are u sure of the score u seem to be gettin the additions wrong recently. in the pat mcmahon cup?? ;)
ok wanderer , you NITpicker i,ll rephrase just for you , granemore were beaten by bellaghy  ;D and it was a random post nothing to do with the pat mc mahon cup  ::)
tut tut torres gettin sensitive too. ps hows the new management gettin on. will yous retain them for the season, are they gettin good reviews?
tut tut wanderer did,nt you notice the  ;D ,the new management team have set their stall out for the season ,  getting good feedback from the player,s , so hopefully they,ll be there to see season out and beyond but time will tell  8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on March 09, 2010, 10:18:32 PM
How many of last year's county minor team or still eligible this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on March 10, 2010, 09:20:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 27, 2010, 12:40:52 PM
Quote from: Uladh on February 26, 2010, 11:23:45 PM

Cos of you...

"Will blow me down" where have you been saan

Running...

Life is like a box of chocolates
Title: http://www.westernpeople.ie/news/story/?trs=eyojsnmhau&cat=sport
Post by: drici on March 11, 2010, 09:46:45 AM
Magic Moran tips the scales
By Joe Pilkington

ARMAGH 0-17  MAYO 0-19
A 10 POINT haul, including nine frees and a '65', by Tipperary native Brian Moran tipped the scales in favour of Mayo in an intriguing encounter at Crossmaglen, last Saturday.

The Moycarkey-Borris clubman scored five points in each half as Mayo overcame an 0-11 to 0-9 half-time deficit with a strong second half performance to win by two points.

It looked as if it was going to be a cakewalk for the Westeners as they raced into a 0-8 to 0-1 lead after 14 minutes but were hauled back by a free running Armagh side that missed a penalty and accumulated 15 first half wides to the visitors one, yet went in at the break in the lead.

In the fourth minute Ger Enright registered Armagh's opening point to halve the deficit as the visitors, with points from a Moran free and one from play from David Dowling, were out of the blocks a lot quicker. Three more Moran points, two from midfielder Derek McConn and one from Eoghan Madigan had Mayo seven points ahead by the quarter hour.

The last 20 minutes of the opening half belonged to Armagh as the visitors wilted inexplicably to be outscored 10 points to one. A 21 minute pointed '65' from Mayo's Moran was all that interrupted the string of points and wides chalked up by a rampant Armagh who really turned this game around.

Paul Breen with two from frees and two from play led the Armagh fightback and Ryan Gaffney and John Corvan grabbed a brace apiece, with Kieran McKernan and Paul McCormack, a free, completing the Armagh points haul. Corvan elected to take his point on 26 minutes with a good goal chance presenting itself.

On the half hourmark Mayo registered their only wide of the half and three minutes later with the teams tied at 0-9 apiece, Brian Higgins batted away a Paul McCormack penalty to safety to ensure a goal free opening half.

Manager Martin Brennan must have read the riot act at the break as Mayo came out a different proposition. They got closer and tighter and the space and freedom which Armagh had enjoyed evaporated. Saying that, immediately after the throw-in Armagh stretched their lead through a Fiachra Bradley point before Moran and McKernan traded points.

Mayo, however, then introduced dual star Keith Higgins to telling effect as he dropped in front of the half back line and mopped up a lot of loose ball to really steady the Mayo ship. Two Moran frees were followed by the best score of the match from David Dowling and the sides were level at 0-13 each some 10 minutes after the restart.



Higgins from play fired Mayo into a lead that they would never relinquish with parity twice the nearest Armagh got for the remainder of the game. A second Bradley point tied things before Mayo substitute Kenny Feeney gave the Westeners a shortlived lead as a Paul Breen free brought parity with a quarter of an hour remaining.

Mayo full-forward Ronan Cullinan got himself on the scoresheet on the hour mark before a Moran free, following a red card offence by Armagh's Barney McCann, doubled the lead. Another Mayo substitute Niall Murphy put a goal between the teams with his side's eighteenth point of the afternoon. Paul McCormack, now operating at full-forward, pulled one back for Armagh before Armagh goalkeeper Joby Burke pointed a free which was moved closer to goal for dissent as the game moved into added time.

Fittingly, Man-of-the-Match Moran had the final say with the last point of the game taking him to double figures in a most productive afternoon for the Tipperary man.

As Mayo returned to the West, they will have contemplated how they lost control after such a terrific start.

SCORERS – Mayo: Brian Moran 0-10 (9f, 1 '65'), Derek McConn and David Dowling 0-2 each, Ronan Cullinane, Eoghan Madigan, Keith Higgins, Niall Murphy and Kenney Feeney 0-1 each. Armagh: P Breen 0-5, P McCormack, J Corvan, R Gaffney, F Bradley and K McKernan 0-2 each, J Burke and G Enright 0-1 each.

ARMAGH: J Burke; B Mallon, P McArdle, F McMullan; P McCormack, B McCann, B Breen; K McKernan, R Gaffney; J Corvan, C Carvill, P Breen; G Enright, C McCann, F Bradley. Subs: B McCormack (for C McCann), P Cunningham (for McKernan).

MAYO: D O'Brien; B Higgins, K Moran, S Morley; E Madigan, P Barrett, C Ryan; S Markham, D McConn; S Hunt, D Dowling, B Moran; S Hoban, R Cullinane, Kenny Robinson. Subs: K Higgins (for Hunt), K Feeney (for Robinson), N Murphy (for Hoban), S Hunt (for Madigan).

Referee: Garrett Duffy (Antrim)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on March 11, 2010, 02:37:49 PM
Where's Declan Coulter these days?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on March 11, 2010, 03:01:23 PM
Teaching in St Pats, Armagh,

Broken Arm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 11, 2010, 03:38:16 PM
Is he still with the hurlers?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 12, 2010, 09:46:25 AM
Quote from: hardstation on March 11, 2010, 10:32:30 PM
Fair play to Coohullyans on the Ard Macha/Ard Mhacha issue. Hopefully other clubs and indeed the county will join the cause to reinstate the proper Irish spelling of the county's name.

But i have it tattooed across my shoulders and the crest on my back...WTF am i going to do now...Tip-ex is no good FFS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on March 12, 2010, 01:21:37 PM
Is the Ulster minor league match still in Cullyhanna tomorrow afternoon? Might take a run over, pass the time before the rugby.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: AhJaysusRef on March 12, 2010, 01:57:42 PM
QuoteFair play to Coohullyans on the Ard Macha/Ard Mhacha issue. Hopefully other clubs and indeed the county will join the cause to reinstate the proper Irish spelling of the county's name.

What business is that of yours and why do you care?
Title: Shane
Post by: drici on March 12, 2010, 02:01:48 PM
Quote from: AhJaysusRef on March 12, 2010, 01:57:42 PM

What business is that of yours and why do you care?



http://www.youtube.com/user/RIProrygallagher#p/a/u/2/FJQLSVFsqmU

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 12, 2010, 02:26:21 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 12, 2010, 01:21:37 PM
Is the Ulster minor league match still in Cullyhanna tomorrow afternoon? Might take a run over, pass the time before the rugby.

It was still on yesterday anyway - hopefully it is because I had it put in today's Irish News.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on March 12, 2010, 02:46:32 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 12, 2010, 02:26:21 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 12, 2010, 01:21:37 PM
Is the Ulster minor league match still in Cullyhanna tomorrow afternoon? Might take a run over, pass the time before the rugby.

It was still on yesterday anyway - hopefully it is because I had it put in today's Irish News.

Yeah just seen that Gaelic Life had the venue down as TBC, and thought it might have been switched to somewhere else.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: camloughlad on March 12, 2010, 05:27:39 PM
what time is it at.cause iam up in cullyhanna tomorrow for a coaching course
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 12, 2010, 05:33:46 PM
Quote from: camloughlad on March 12, 2010, 05:27:39 PM
what time is it at.cause iam up in cullyhanna tomorrow for a coaching course

12pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on March 12, 2010, 07:04:58 PM
Did Kelly O'Rourke take the Keady job or what?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 13, 2010, 08:07:40 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 12, 2010, 02:26:21 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 12, 2010, 01:21:37 PM
Is the Ulster minor league match still in Cullyhanna tomorrow afternoon? Might take a run over, pass the time before the rugby.

It was still on yesterday anyway - hopefully it is because I had it put in today's Irish News.

http://www.hoganstand.com/armagh/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=125245

Circus in town early this year TAC?  Even Stepehn Casey wouldn't have resorted to these defensive tactics ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 13, 2010, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 13, 2010, 08:07:40 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 12, 2010, 02:26:21 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 12, 2010, 01:21:37 PM
Is the Ulster minor league match still in Cullyhanna tomorrow afternoon? Might take a run over, pass the time before the rugby.

It was still on yesterday anyway - hopefully it is because I had it put in today's Irish News.

http://www.hoganstand.com/armagh/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=125245

Circus in town early this year TAC?  Even Stepehn Casey wouldn't have resorted to these defensive tactics ;D
:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on March 13, 2010, 01:34:15 PM
Ulster Minor Hurling League - 14.03.10
Armagh v Down
Middletown, 12pm.
All support very welcome
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on March 13, 2010, 10:49:08 PM
bout yas lads anybod any idea were Tones V Clans match is Tues nite?????? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on March 13, 2010, 11:25:52 PM
anyone know what the deal is with orchardcounty website?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: only1clansinlurgan on March 14, 2010, 01:06:09 PM
clans game v the tone is nxt sunday at clann eireann park @ 2pm true.. :) :)

wont b pretty saan... :'( ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on March 14, 2010, 07:51:15 PM
granemore drew with tyrone div 2 side eglish .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: camloughlad on March 14, 2010, 08:13:19 PM
Quote from: centrefield on March 13, 2010, 11:25:52 PM
anyone know what the deal is with orchardcounty website?
its shut down for good.berry didnt like a few posts that were made about a certin down player
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: AhJaysusRef on March 15, 2010, 01:00:54 PM
Quoteits shut down for good.berry didnt like a few posts that were made about a certin down player

Paul Berry...DUP??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on March 15, 2010, 06:13:35 PM
Quote from: AhJaysusRef on March 15, 2010, 01:00:54 PM
Quoteits shut down for good.berry didnt like a few posts that were made about a certin down player

Paul Berry...DUP??
chuck berry  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: macca on March 16, 2010, 08:52:56 AM
John Patrick Berry of St Columbus fame
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on March 16, 2010, 01:49:06 PM
http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--Ciaran-McKeever-is-satisfied-with-victory.aspx

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--Paddy-O-Rourke-speaks-after-Kildare-victory.aspx

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--Michael-Johnston-is-disappointed-as-Hurlers.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on March 17, 2010, 11:31:41 PM
Is the young lad Gough, the St Colman's midfielder, an Armagh minor? 
Title: http://www.irishpost.ie/tabId/320/itemId/9679/Goalmad-London-raid-the-Orchard.as
Post by: drici on March 17, 2010, 11:51:02 PM
Goal-mad London raid the Orchard

ARMAGH 1-15 LONDON 4-07

BY NIALL McDONALD
ANY lingering dejection from the comprehensive defeat at the hands of Derry two weeks ago was well and truly binned at Crossmaglen on Sunday, as the Exiles picked up their first league win in 2010.

The old adage that goals win games was certainly in evidence, as two second-half three pointers from substitute Tom Toomey put the Orchard County to the sword.

Paul Breen opened the home side's account, but London soon found their footing and hit back, Adrian Healy pointing from a free.

Healy was causing the Armagh defence problems, and had the ball in the net less than a minute later. The ball was crossed in from near the end line and Healy was there to smash it home.

The goal brought Armagh to life, and they sprang into action with seven points in a row to turn the game on its head.

At this stage it looked like the home side was in the mood to run away with the game.

But for the tough battling of the two Colms — Burke and Forde — in the London defence, the score could have been much higher. Another Healy free closed the gap to three points, but once again McCormack responded in style for Armagh.

London's midfielders Niall Forde and Keith Kennedy were overrunning their opposite numbers, but their forwards were having little joy. They tagged on one more point but it was immediately cancelled out by a brilliant solo run from Conor McCann.

With time almost up in the first half, Armagh were four points to the good and cruising, but they were hit with a sucker punch before the short whistle was blown.

A long ball from midfield evaded the Armagh defence, and Martin Finn was on hand to score the goal that left London heading to the dressing room trailing by one:
Armagh 0-10 London 2-03.

The home side established a three-point lead within three minutes of the restart, with two points from McCann and Breen.

Healy and midfielder Kennedy responded for the Exiles and another Healy point levelled the game.

In a tight and tense affair, London had the ball in the net for the third time soon after. A long, high ball from Forde dropped in towards the square.

The Armagh goalkeeper went out to clear but missed the ball, allowing substitute Toomey, who had only entered the field a minute earlier, to nip in and tap the ball into the empty net.

London were in the lead for the first time since the first minute, but while Armagh's defence were looking suspect, their forward line was still able to split the posts — two more points inside a minute from Breen left the sides level once again.

One of the sides needed to step up their game to push on for the victory, and it was London that did just that.

Firstly, Jamie McCormack pointed from the wing, and then a mammoth point from Richard O'Connell from all of 70 yards left two points between the two teams.

Armagh needed to chase the game to find a winning goal, but in doing so left gaping holes at the back.

London exploited this with a long ball in the final minute that found its way to Toomey, who smashed the ball into the net to put London five points ahead and out of sight.

Armagh did manage to find the net deep into injury-time from full-back Paddy McArdle, but it was too little, too late as London came away with the victory.

London will be delighted with their win, which lifts them off bottom of the table, ahead of their game this weekend against table-toppers Kerry, at Ruislip on Sunday at 1.30pm.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Trevor Hill on March 18, 2010, 12:16:56 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on March 13, 2010, 12:27:26 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 13, 2010, 08:07:40 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 12, 2010, 02:26:21 PM
Quote from: AFS on March 12, 2010, 01:21:37 PM
Is the Ulster minor league match still in Cullyhanna tomorrow afternoon? Might take a run over, pass the time before the rugby.

It was still on yesterday anyway - hopefully it is because I had it put in today's Irish News.

http://www.hoganstand.com/armagh/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=125245

Circus in town early this year TAC?  Even Stepehn Casey wouldn't have resorted to these defensive tactics ;D
:D

I hear they are going to bring in a few ringers.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on March 19, 2010, 08:52:42 AM
Paddy O'Rourke looks ahead to Down v Armagh

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--Paddy-O-Rourke-looks-to-Down-clash.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on March 19, 2010, 11:14:17 PM
Quote from: only1clansinlurgan on March 14, 2010, 01:06:09 PM
clans game v the tone is nxt sunday at clann eireann park @ 2pm true.. :) :)

wont b pretty saan... :'( ;D
[
is this match still on 1 clans/quote]
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 20, 2010, 10:43:12 AM
Quote from: true on March 19, 2010, 11:14:17 PM
Quote from: only1clansinlurgan on March 14, 2010, 01:06:09 PM
clans game v the tone is nxt sunday at clann eireann park @ 2pm true.. :) :)

wont b pretty saan... :'( ;D
[
is this match still on 1 clans/quote]

Tomorrow at 2:00 in Clann Eireann...could be their hurling pitch across the road
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 21, 2010, 05:00:37 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 20, 2010, 10:43:12 AM
Quote from: true on March 19, 2010, 11:14:17 PM
Quote from: only1clansinlurgan on March 14, 2010, 01:06:09 PM
clans game v the tone is nxt sunday at clann eireann park @ 2pm true.. :) :)

wont b pretty saan... :'( ;D
[
is this match still on 1 clans/quote]

Tomorrow at 2:00 in Clann Eireann...could be their hurling pitch across the road
clans won bt the minimum.a last gasp free from the former great whire hope lawrence mcguiness
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on March 21, 2010, 09:38:57 PM
Sat 20.03.10
Ulster Minor Hurling League - Division 1

Armagh 3 12
Antrim 2 12

@Loughgiel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on March 21, 2010, 09:49:38 PM
was at clans match pretty poor fare from both teams any other results from mc mahon matches????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on March 21, 2010, 10:10:18 PM
Quote from: CountyGK on March 21, 2010, 09:38:57 PM
Sat 20.03.10
Ulster Minor Hurling League - Division 1

Armagh 3 12
Antrim 2 12

@Loughgiel

Brilliant!! That's a good lift for hurling in the county!! I know there's a lot of hard work goes in by a small amount of people and hopefully things keep progressing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 22, 2010, 12:04:13 PM
Quote from: true on March 21, 2010, 09:49:38 PM
was at clans match pretty poor fare from both teams any other results from mc mahon matches????

Ya got that right...pish poor game with weakened teams fielded by clans and i'm sure the Tones weren't too full strength either (if they were they're in serious trouble). But it is March afterall and guys are still getting their fitness in and hopefully it'll get better :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on March 22, 2010, 02:55:12 PM
Who was missing for Tonnes?? I hear Clans were 10 first team players down - any truth?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on March 22, 2010, 04:17:34 PM
Only ones missing Fin Mo and Ryan Mc Quillan..   Most noticeable absentee was manager not good sign 2nd game in ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 22, 2010, 04:47:37 PM
Missing for clans was
R.Austin
S. O'Hagan
M.Austin 
D.Mc Alinden
M. Lavery
N.Henderson


I am sure there were several others
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 22, 2010, 05:05:53 PM
Quote from: true on March 22, 2010, 04:17:34 PM
Only ones missing Fin Mo and Ryan Mc Quillan..   Most noticeable absentee was manager not good sign 2nd game in ::) ::) ::)
Probs away down in south Belfast scouting for talent!  ;) ;) Clans were also missing first choice keeper!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on March 23, 2010, 09:55:07 AM
As part of Armagh GAA's expanded Video coverage on our website, we had a camera at both our Senior games this weekend.  Click on the link belows to see the videos from what were contrasting fortunes for the Footballers and Hurlers

NFL DIVISION II - ARMAGH 1-6 DOWN 1-13

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--Match-Report---Armagh-1-6-Down-1-13.aspx

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--Paddy-O-Rourke-is-hugely-disappointed-by-de.aspx

NHL DIVISION IIIA - ARMAGH 3-11 DERRY 1-12

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--Match-Report---Armagh-3-12-Derry-1-11.aspx

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--Armagh-captain-Cahal-Carvill-is-delighted-t.aspx

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--Michael-Johnston-is-buoyed-by-Derry-victory.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on March 23, 2010, 12:42:51 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 22, 2010, 04:47:37 PM
Missing for clans was
R.Austin
S. O'Hagan
M.Austin 
D.Mc Alinden
M. Lavery
N.Henderson



I am sure there were several others




Who cares Winsam
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 23, 2010, 01:42:16 PM
I care punter as does the person that asked the question. If you don't then f**k off and read something else
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 23, 2010, 02:36:08 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on March 23, 2010, 12:42:51 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 22, 2010, 04:47:37 PM
Missing for clans was
R.Austin
S. O'Hagan
M.Austin 
D.Mc Alinden
M. Lavery
N.Henderson



I am sure there were several others




Who cares Winsam

Back for another while Punter...lol

FFS you've been banned more times than the Orange Order
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on March 23, 2010, 07:15:26 PM
Did Armagh concede home advantage in 2mo nites u-21 ulster championship game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: only1clansinlurgan on March 23, 2010, 07:23:45 PM
hi winsam u wud lak ta meet the punter on a football field wudnt ya..  ;) wat a tit!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on March 23, 2010, 07:27:34 PM
Quote from: Real1995 on March 23, 2010, 07:15:26 PM
Did Armagh concede home advantage in 2mo nites u-21 ulster championship game?

think they had to as they have no county ground with lights
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on March 24, 2010, 07:31:34 PM
Armagh v Donegal Ulster U21 Championship game will have live updates from Charlie Collins and Martin McHugh from approximately 8.30pm on Highland Radio.
Link as below:-

http://www.highlandradio.com/

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on March 25, 2010, 10:41:08 AM
(http://armagh-gaa.com/getattachment/97215496-7a79-4943-8a3e-e487eb18b6f7/VIDEO--Brian-McAlinden-disappointed-by-U21-defeat.aspx?width=400&height=266)

Video Interview with Brian after Armagh's disappointing defeat.

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--Brian-McAlinden-disappointed-by-U21-defeat.aspx

Match Report from game

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--Match-Report-U21---Armagh-0-9-Donegal-1-9.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on March 25, 2010, 04:15:20 PM
Any ogs boys playing last night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Pearse og on March 25, 2010, 06:22:40 PM
Just Anto Duffy.
Title: Cluiche
Post by: drici on March 27, 2010, 03:32:39 PM
National Hurling League

Kerry 0-14 Armagh 0-03

Half Time
Title: Toradh
Post by: drici on March 27, 2010, 04:06:22 PM
Kerry 2-22 Armagh 1-09
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on March 28, 2010, 02:11:01 PM
Has annaghmore Tones match been changed Why???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on March 28, 2010, 02:14:18 PM
granemore just edged clann na gael today , both sides understrength .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on March 28, 2010, 03:21:09 PM
Quote from: torres on March 28, 2010, 02:14:18 PM
granemore just edged clann na gael today , both sides understrength .

yeah I think there was about 3 in it. Looked like the clans were gonna be stuffed at one stage and must have been at least ten points down. Came back into it well toward the end but there was a lot of bad stuff played. Still a good run out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on March 28, 2010, 06:23:18 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on March 28, 2010, 03:21:09 PM
Quote from: torres on March 28, 2010, 02:14:18 PM
granemore just edged clann na gael today , both sides understrength .

yeah I think there was about 3 in it. Looked like the clans were gonna be stuffed at one stage and must have been at least ten points down. Came back into it well toward the end but there was a lot of bad stuff played. Still a good run out
early start and understrength team,s is never going to conquer up good football but as you say still a good run out all the same   8).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 28, 2010, 09:32:44 PM
Not to mention a few beers too many last night :(

Granemore have a few good forwards...that lad C O'Connor knows where the posts are alright just a pity he wasn't a few inches taller he'd be knocking on the door for Armagh...Pitch was terrible Torres thought i was at the beach ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on March 28, 2010, 11:09:14 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 28, 2010, 09:32:44 PM
Not to mention a few beers too many last night :(

Granemore have a few good forwards...that lad C O'Connor knows where the posts are alright just a pity he wasn't a few inches taller he'd be knocking on the door for Armagh...Pitch was terrible Torres thought i was at the beach ;)
yeah there,s alway,s the beer , especially on saturday night,s  :D the pitch has been like that since they had that underground drainage done a few years back and aparently it has to be heavily sanded at the start of each season , does,nt seem to be helping the pitch though  ::) , o,connor,s a very good player and if a player know,s where the post,s are and can regularily split them then height should,nt come into it as 2 of armagh,s greatest ever  forward,s were,nt to big , peter loughran and jim mc conville   8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on March 29, 2010, 02:03:45 PM
but it comes to the crunch games like last year v harps o connor is found wanting. its one thing scoring in challenges and certain league games but it has to count in the big games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on March 29, 2010, 02:27:53 PM
Match report as Armagh hold out to beat Tipperary

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--Match-Report---Armagh-1-15-Tipperary-2-8.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on March 29, 2010, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on March 29, 2010, 02:03:45 PM
but it comes to the crunch games like last year v harps o connor is found wanting. its one thing scoring in challenges and certain league games but it has to count in the big games.
come of it wanderer he had 3/4 effort,s at the post,s which were narrowly of target while having 2 men hanging on him , i could say that andy mallon is a very good man marker who regularly snuffs out the dangermen  but as seen many times this season including the county final and lately for armagh is that he struggles under the high ball . 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on March 29, 2010, 04:11:46 PM
Quote from: torres on March 29, 2010, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on March 29, 2010, 02:03:45 PM
but it comes to the crunch games like last year v harps o connor is found wanting. its one thing scoring in challenges and certain league games but it has to count in the big games.
come of it wanderer he had 3/4 effort,s at the post,s which were narrowly of target while having 2 men hanging on him , i could say that andy mallon is a very good man marker who regularly snuffs out the dangermen  but as seen many times this season including the county final and lately for armagh is that he struggles under the high ball . 8)

Just because you read something in a newspaper doesn't make it Gospel Torres.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on March 29, 2010, 04:30:14 PM
Quote from: torres on March 29, 2010, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on March 29, 2010, 02:03:45 PM
but it comes to the crunch games like last year v harps o connor is found wanting. its one thing scoring in challenges and certain league games but it has to count in the big games.
come of it wanderer he had 3/4 effort,s at the post,s which were narrowly of target while having 2 men hanging on him , i could say that andy mallon is a very good man marker who regularly snuffs out the dangermen  but as seen many times this season including the county final and lately for armagh is that he struggles under the high ball . 8)
I know you're only winding but where the fcuk did Heaney get that one from?? He referred to the county final against Clans (???) and said he struggled against Nippy. Nippy, for obvious reasons, had a poor enough game, don't remember Andy struggling aerially with him..........Jaysus one mistake against Down and now Andy Mallon is weak under a high ball!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on March 29, 2010, 05:21:55 PM
Torres u dont have the success as a player like andy being poor under high balls. i think any county in ireland would have andy in corner back, never mind club teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 29, 2010, 06:08:31 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on March 29, 2010, 02:03:45 PM
but it comes to the crunch games like last year v harps o connor is found wanting. its one thing scoring in challenges and certain league games but it has to count in the big games.
has he been tried at county level?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 29, 2010, 06:14:15 PM
Quote from: torres on March 29, 2010, 04:05:28 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on March 29, 2010, 02:03:45 PM
but it comes to the crunch games like last year v harps o connor is found wanting. its one thing scoring in challenges and certain league games but it has to count in the big games.
come of it wanderer he had 3/4 effort,s at the post,s which were narrowly of target while having 2 men hanging on him , i could say that andy mallon is a very good man marker who regularly snuffs out the dangermen  but as seen many times this season including the county final and lately for armagh is that he struggles under the high ball . 8)

Did O'Connor ever learn to pass the ball?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 29, 2010, 07:05:04 PM
Think some of you lads are way off the mark with Mallon. He's a super player, that shite about the high ball baffles me as does the comments about swift. I watched the county final and if anything Swift was brutal in the air ( i seem to rememeber someone saying he had a broken thumb for the second half) Granted mallon doesn't make superb catches but neither does his man and the comment about passing i don't know where this is coming from pints. He does a simple job very well. If we had 6 defenders like him we would be hard to beat.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 29, 2010, 07:08:30 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 29, 2010, 07:05:04 PM
Think some of you lads are way off the mark with Mallon. He's a super player, that shite about the high ball baffles me as does the comments about swift. I watched the county final and if anything Swift was brutal in the air ( i seem to rememeber someone saying he had a broken thumb for the second half) Granted mallon doesn't make superb catches but neither does his man and the comment about passing i don't know where this is coming from pints. He does a simple job very well. If we had 6 defenders like him we would be hard to beat.
I'm on about O'Connor, not mallon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on March 29, 2010, 10:26:22 PM
Paddy O'Rourke Interview

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--Paddy-O-Rourke-pleased-with-Armagh-response.aspx

Aaron Kernan Interview

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--Aaron-Kernan-interview.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 29, 2010, 10:49:17 PM
I think the time of your edit indicates that you added something onto that post as it didn't read like that first time round ie no mention of O'Connor, hence the confusion.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 30, 2010, 09:38:27 AM
The height thing was brought into it when i said if that lad O'Connor was a bit bigger he may well have had a few trials with Armagh and some how that was transfered over to A Mallon who i believe bar one mistake is excellent under the high ball and is one of the most complete corner backs in Ireland. If A Mallon was marking O'Connor in a championship game i would expect Andy to come out on top 90% of the time but there is no doubting that O'connor can take a score.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on March 30, 2010, 10:04:04 AM
i would say any team in ireland would have andy mallon as their corner back. Total nonsense about him being poor under the high ball and total nonsense that he struggled against Nippy Swift. Swift was poor in the county final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on March 30, 2010, 01:41:45 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 29, 2010, 10:49:17 PM
I think the time of your edit indicates that you added something onto that post as it didn't read like that first time round ie no mention of O'Connor, hence the confusion.
Yeah I edited after your post to make it clear I was on about o'Connor
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 30, 2010, 01:51:19 PM
Hence the confusion pints but we now know what you were on about.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Long Ball on March 31, 2010, 02:30:03 PM
Castlewellan Invitational Sevens
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A Chara

I have pleasure in inviting your Club to participate in our Invitational seven-a-side senior football competition which will be held on Saturday 1st May 2010 in Castlewellan Co. Down. Our Club has been running a very successful men's annual seven-a-side competition for the past 30 years second only in stature to the Dublin Kilmacud Sevens with winners of the Castlewellan sevens receiving invitations each year to enter the prestigious Kilmacud Seven held on the eve of the All-Ireland final. Indeed many of the Castlewellan Sevens winners have gone on to win the Kilmacud Sevens in the same year.

Traditionally the Castlewellan Sevens have beed held on the eve of the All-Ireland hurling final but due to increasing club commitments at this time of years we have decided to relaunch our sevens competition in 2010 for the earlier date of Saturday May 1st. Also for the first time ever we will be hosting our Ladies annual seven-a-side competition on the same day. The winning team in each competitions this year will receive £1000.00 and runners-up £250.


This is an official GAA tournament and normal GAA rules apply, each participating club must obtain permission in writing from its respective County Committee. It is also a requirement that clubs are covered under the Players' Injury Scheme currently approved by Ard Chomhairle.

The Sevens are of course more than a highly competitive one-day competition. It is always a great social occasion and we can guarantee you a warm Co Down welcome to Castlewellan and to our Clubrooms where we will provide top quality meals for all players and officials and host a grand evenings entertainment. Many Clubs opt to stay over in some of the Town's fine guesthouses and local hotels a list of which is also attached.

I look forward to welcoming you to our Club on Saturday 1st May. A competition of this level with top quality prizes and meals for all competitors and officials makes it necessary for us to set a fee to off-set the expenses involved, the entry fee this year is £160stg per team or €180, please make cheques payable to Castlewellan G.A.C. Entry forms may be posted to secretary.castlewellan.down@gaa.ie


For further details of the competition including past winners etc please visit our website at  http://castlewellangac.webs.com/castlewellan7s.htm

Mise le mor-mheas

Rónán O'Cionga

Ronan O Cionga
Runai
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 31, 2010, 03:35:15 PM
The Killeavey 7's must have caused a ripple :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 01, 2010, 05:01:57 PM
Killeavy 7's off this weekend!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 02, 2010, 01:51:08 AM
What happened there?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 02, 2010, 09:31:45 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 02, 2010, 01:51:08 AM
What happened there?

I was told it was off due to weather but not 100% sure WSS. The school pitch they use in the housing estate was prob un playable as their main pitches are usually fine and with extra teams this year another venue was more than likely used and it may well have been doubtful too (thats my opinion saan)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cillsleibhe on April 02, 2010, 09:25:03 PM
The 7s were called off on Wednesday night because of the weather early on in the week and the promise of more to come.  We weren't using the council field this year but our old field was in poor shape and unlikely to be playable.  Our new field probably would have been alright but it couldn't have staged the whole tournament.

We are hoping to get County Board approval to run the tournament on 8th May - the day before the La na gClub on 9th May.  Invites will be going out again soon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 03, 2010, 10:27:51 AM
Tell the club the 8th is definitely a no go - Mickey Austin has to work that day.  ;D ;D (Dont mention it Mick lol)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 03, 2010, 03:12:15 PM
anyone at the minor game?quite a tanking..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 03, 2010, 06:20:49 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 03, 2010, 10:27:51 AM
Tell the club the 8th is definitely a no go - Mickey Austin has to work that day.  ;D ;D (Dont mention it Mick lol)

Thats why we picked the 8th so that Micky Austin would be working ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on April 04, 2010, 05:47:38 PM
Orchard TV present coverage of yesterday's UMFL game when Armagh were heavily defeated by Dublin in Middletown.  Follow the links below for Match report and Interview with Paul McShane

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--UMFL---Armagh-v-Dublin-Match-Report.aspx

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--UMFL---Paul-McShane-Interview.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Miley Cyrus on April 05, 2010, 07:28:40 AM
When does the league start and what are your predications for the leagues this year?????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 05, 2010, 04:45:58 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 03, 2010, 06:20:49 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 03, 2010, 10:27:51 AM
Tell the club the 8th is definitely a no go - Mickey Austin has to work that day.  ;D ;D (Dont mention it Mick lol)

Thats why we picked the 8th so that Micky Austin would be working ;D


One day a year is tough!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 06, 2010, 12:43:52 PM
times throw in for games sat?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 06, 2010, 03:22:13 PM
could someone post the fixtures  :-*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 06, 2010, 04:30:01 PM
6pm starts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 06, 2010, 04:36:43 PM
Clans game versus Cruppen is monday night in Clann Eireann
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 07, 2010, 09:17:59 AM
Who is in charge of "le bleu" this season? Is Diarmuid involved?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on April 07, 2010, 09:35:52 AM
Orchard Tv presents an interview with Paddy O'Rourke as he looks ahead to Armagh's crunch clash with Donegal in Letterkenny

http://armagh-gaa.com/Armagh-TV/News/VIDEO--Paddy-O-Rourke-talks-about-Donegal-game.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 07, 2010, 11:58:43 AM
tones v the nab 6.30 at eire og on saturday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 07, 2010, 01:13:39 PM
Quote from: Hedley Lamarr on April 07, 2010, 09:17:59 AM
Who is in charge of "le bleu" this season? Is Diarmuid involved?


No hes u21 manager - gerard skelton is senior manager
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 07, 2010, 03:38:29 PM
Any League predictions?

Mullabawn v Crossmaglen
Pearse Og v Sarsfields
Killeavy v Maghery
Cullaville v Dromintee
Whitecross v Cullyhanna
Clan na Gael v Carrickcruppen

Silverbridge v Tir na nOg
St Peter's v St Michael's
Keady v Madden
Clann Eireann v Granemore
Wolfe Tones v Ballymacnab
Armagh Harps v Ballyhegan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 07, 2010, 04:37:55 PM
Any League predictions?

Mullabawn v Crossmaglen
Pearse Og v Sarsfields
Killeavy v Maghery
Cullaville v Dromintee
Whitecross v Cullyhanna Draw
Clan na Gael v Carrickcruppen

Silverbridge v Tir na nOg
St Peter's v St Michael's
Keady v Madden
Clann Eireann v Granemore
Wolfe Tones v Ballymacnab
Armagh Harps v Ballyhegan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 07, 2010, 07:09:25 PM
Div 2

1st-Armagh Harps- will expect to go up this year as champions.  swift will be a loss to the county panel, thought decky mckenna availability should be a help.  division 1 football a must if out to continue to challenge at senior championship level
2nd ballymacnab- brian mccone dropping off the senior panel be a big help.  throw in mcparland and grugan to the mix and they will have a potent forward line. 
3rd granemore will have high hopes this year after going so close to promotion last year. jason o neill being with county be a blow and i think their neighbours ballymacnab will edge them out.
4th tirnanog- alot of talented players however attitude maybe an issue.  could beat any team in the division on their day.  will look to davey turley and paul carville for most of their scores
5th clann eireann- another hit and miss team.  good senior championship run last year will give them some confidence, though an over reliance on ryan henderson may be their downfall
6th wolfe tone- very young side, however will need to turn a lot of last years narrow defeats into wins.  a more committed management team should help!
7th keady- will need to improve their away form of recent previous yearswhen have been in 2nd division.  victory over culloville last year showed can be a dangerous team.  will hope build on successful year last year.  no county men will help
8th madden- over achieved imo last year.  feeneys continuing involvement with the county will affect them.  will need big year from a number of u21s who got to the county final 2 years ago
9th silverbridge- should have enough to avoid the drop this year, with a few players returning from abroad.  a good championship run should be the aim
10th st.michaels-may struggle with motivation after last year's championship success.  will need to make a better start to this year
11th st.peters- last year's division 3 runners up.  david wilson's form and fitness be crucial.  younger players such as niall mcconville, eoghan mccormack may have to ease the scoring burden
12th ballyhegan- lucky to stay up last year after a good end of season run by newtown and tirnanogs failure to field.  paddy mckeever will again be a key man for them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 07, 2010, 09:26:10 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 07, 2010, 07:09:25 PM
5th clann eireann- another hit and miss team.  good senior championship run last year will give them some confidence, though an over reliance on ryan henderson may be their downfall
they won one game!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on April 07, 2010, 10:16:56 PM
same old same old 'very young side' cry re Tones stubbs. seen them against Clans couple weeks ago at least 9 of starting line have played senior football for the last 5/6 years!!!! with Finn Mo , Quilly, Seanie Smith and 1 or 2 others standing on side line.  As for more committed management he wasn't there for that match!!!!!!!!!!!! Time will tell but think its about time players stood up and were counted.  Come champ time can be sure there will be a few more aul hands back on deck.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 08, 2010, 01:14:53 AM
Yeah but the point you are missing true is that they still aren't good enough and never where, despite who they have/had playing. I have never seen football as poor in and around the lurgan area. It has truly went to the dogs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 08, 2010, 09:05:26 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 07, 2010, 07:09:25 PM
Div 2

1st-Armagh Harps- will expect to go up this year as champions.  swift will be a loss to the county panel, thought decky mckenna availability should be a help.  division 1 football a must if out to continue to challenge at senior championship level
2nd ballymacnab- brian mccone dropping off the senior panel be a big help.  throw in mcparland and grugan to the mix and they will have a potent forward line. 
3rd granemore will have high hopes this year after going so close to promotion last year. jason o neill being with county be a blow and i think their neighbours ballymacnab will edge them out.
4th tirnanog- alot of talented players however attitude maybe an issue.  could beat any team in the division on their day.  will look to davey turley and paul carville for most of their scores
5th clann eireann- another hit and miss team.  good senior championship run last year will give them some confidence, though an over reliance on ryan henderson may be their downfall
6th wolfe tone- very young side, however will need to turn a lot of last years narrow defeats into wins.  a more committed management team should help!
7th keady- will need to improve their away form of recent previous yearswhen have been in 2nd division.  victory over culloville last year showed can be a dangerous team.  will hope build on successful year last year.  no county men will help
8th madden- over achieved imo last year.  feeneys continuing involvement with the county will affect them.  will need big year from a number of u21s who got to the county final 2 years ago
9th silverbridge- should have enough to avoid the drop this year, with a few players returning from abroad.  a good championship run should be the aim
10th st.michaels-may struggle with motivation after last year's championship success.  will need to make a better start to this year
11th st.peters- last year's division 3 runners up.  david wilson's form and fitness be crucial.  younger players such as niall mcconville, eoghan mccormack may have to ease the scoring burden
12th ballyhegan- lucky to stay up last year after a good end of season run by newtown and tirnanogs failure to field.  paddy mckeever will again be a key man for them

Relegated already...  ::)
We beat Portydown in Portydown last year... They needn't rely too much on Davey Turley - he's in Oz.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on April 08, 2010, 03:20:28 PM
did i hear right or is someone on the wind up i was told maghery beat clans 3-17 0-06 in pat mcmahan smi final on tuesday night im on holidays and just got a text to say  ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on April 08, 2010, 03:47:57 PM
it was magherys juveniles as robinson would say ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on April 08, 2010, 04:22:54 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on April 08, 2010, 03:47:57 PM
it was magherys juveniles as robinson would say ;D

::) ??? ??? :o that just went over the top of me wanderer ,missed that altogether maybe its the sun  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 08, 2010, 04:54:48 PM
What about a prediction league lads? Shouldn't be too hard to organise as there wouldn't be that many entering it week after week I wouldn't have thought.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 08, 2010, 05:09:32 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on April 08, 2010, 03:20:28 PM
did i hear right or is someone on the wind up i was told maghery beat clans 3-17 0-06 in pat mcmahan smi final on tuesday night im on holidays and just got a text to say  ??? ??? ???

Not sure of the exact scoreline but it's not too far away :-[. Yeah Maghery tore the clans to bits which was the worst display from a Clan na Gael senior team that i have ever seen. Having said all that both teams were under strength to which the Clans just gave up after having a man sent off after 10 mins, Clans management took players off and gave lads a run out too which i suppose didn't help but all in all Maghery battered them from start to finish...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on April 08, 2010, 05:10:59 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 08, 2010, 04:54:48 PM
What about a prediction league lads? Shouldn't be too hard to organise as there wouldn't be that many entering it week after week I wouldn't have thought.

Is that u volunteering?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 09, 2010, 09:10:34 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 08, 2010, 05:10:59 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 08, 2010, 04:54:48 PM
What about a prediction league lads? Shouldn't be too hard to organise as there wouldn't be that many entering it week after week I wouldn't have thought.

Is that u volunteering?

Yeah I can have a go at it. Can we get a reliable fixture list online anywhere anymore since the demise of Orchard County?

What sort of format would people like? Just 1 point per correct prediction? Should there be extra points for predicting away wins?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on April 09, 2010, 10:05:06 AM

Is there too much work in putting in a spread ala the conventional predictions here?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on April 09, 2010, 10:33:19 AM
The new season is finally upon us. i think it is going to be a very interesting season ahead. the league will no doubt bring some shock results with alot of the so called big teams missing their county men. interested to see what dromintee do this year as in all honesty they were pretty poor last year but i still think they are one of the top teams along with ogs and cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 09, 2010, 11:36:46 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on April 09, 2010, 10:05:06 AM

Is there too much work in putting in a spread ala the conventional predictions here?

The main problem I'd have with a spread system is that I wouldn't really have too much of an idea about what's going on in the lower divisions so we'd need a divisional expert for each league if we went with spreads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on April 09, 2010, 03:49:58 PM
Ulster Minor Hurling League Division 1 Final
Armagh v Down
@ Portaferry, 12pm on 10.04.2010

All support welcome!
Title: Cluiche
Post by: drici on April 09, 2010, 03:56:57 PM
Quote from: CountyGK on April 09, 2010, 03:49:58 PM
Ulster Minor Hurling League Division 1 Final
Armagh v Down
@ Portaferry, 12pm on 10.04.2010

All support welcome!


We're getting the boat to the match.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 09, 2010, 09:19:57 PM
any early throw ins 2mara?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 09, 2010, 09:55:04 PM
St Patrick's II 2-12 Phelim Brady's 2-9

Is that the first match of the year then? Exciting enough match, we should have been well out of sight in the first half only for bad wides but we handed them a couple of goals either side of half-time which gave Darkley a bit of momentum. They dominated the first part of the second half and led by 2 points at one stage. We were lucky enough to win in the end, a penalty 10 minutes from time being the decisive score.

Darkley's pitch wouldn't be the greatest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 09, 2010, 10:52:10 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 09, 2010, 09:55:04 PM
St Patrick's II 2-12 Phelim Brady's 2-9

Is that the first match of the year then? Exciting enough match, we should have been well out of sight in the first half only for bad wides but we handed them a couple of goals either side of half-time which gave Darkley a bit of momentum. They dominated the first part of the second half and led by 2 points at one stage. We were lucky enough to win in the end, a penalty 10 minutes from time being the decisive.

Darkley's pitch wouldn't be the greatest.
What would the make up of your IIs be? Anything similar to your B-team last year, and is your senior squad streamlined as a result? Does anyone know if there were any other games on tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 10, 2010, 01:50:24 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 09, 2010, 10:52:10 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 09, 2010, 09:55:04 PM
St Patrick's II 2-12 Phelim Brady's 2-9

Is that the first match of the year then? Exciting enough match, we should have been well out of sight in the first half only for bad wides but we handed them a couple of goals either side of half-time which gave Darkley a bit of momentum. They dominated the first part of the second half and led by 2 points at one stage. We were lucky enough to win in the end, a penalty 10 minutes from time being the decisive.

Darkley's pitch wouldn't be the greatest.
What would the make up of your IIs be? Anything similar to your B-team last year, and is your senior squad streamlined as a result? Does anyone know if there were any other games on tonight?

The Seconds team this year wouldn't really be as good as the B side that played those couple of games against youse in the championship last year. There would have been a lot of good footballers of 18 / 19 playing for the Bs last year who are in the First division squad now. The 1st division and 4th division squads are run entirely separately. The best 25 or so at the club are with the Firsts so the Seconds are managing with what's left after that. Still had 23 or 24 togged out tonight so numbers aren't the issue.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on April 10, 2010, 04:38:47 PM
Ulster Minor Hurling League Division 1 Final
Armagh 0-16
Down 2-06

Champions!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 10, 2010, 07:53:25 PM
Granmore beat Clann Eireann in the league tonight, any other scores?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ArmaghGAAforum on April 10, 2010, 08:16:40 PM
Corrinshego beat clady
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 10, 2010, 08:20:26 PM
Any proper scores??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 10, 2010, 08:21:12 PM
Ogs beat Sarsfields by 8 -

3-12 to 1-10
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 10, 2010, 08:28:25 PM
Cross 0-10
Mullaghbawn 0-08

A game which could have gone either way, with both teams missing a number of regulars.  Mullaghbawn will rue two missed first half goal chances.  Both teams had dominant spells in the second half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 10, 2010, 09:04:30 PM
Whitecross 0-16
St Pat's 0-8

We were utterly awful. Whitecross played well, some nice football breaking out of defence and they took some lovely scores from difficult angles. To be honest though, they didn't have a lot to beat based on our performance. There'll be a long season ahead if that performance is repeated on a regular basis.

The u14 feile final ended a draw - St Patrick's 3-4 Killeavy 1-10.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on April 10, 2010, 09:10:35 PM

Dromintee beaten by cullaville by a goal. That's all i know  about it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on April 10, 2010, 10:26:32 PM
maghery 1-12 killeavy 2-5. both teams very under strength and it showed poor game with plenty of mistakes killeavy keeper making a blunder for r goal on 1st attack,killaevy got 1st goal from mistake in maghery defence 2nd goal high ball in which was square ball but ref was 2 far away 2 see.both teams will need much improvement
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 11, 2010, 12:05:09 AM
Newtown beat St Peters...

Jasus sounds like the 1st round of games were poor quality
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on April 11, 2010, 10:30:49 AM
Has anyone got a full list of results from all the divisions?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on April 11, 2010, 11:52:15 AM
granemore beat clann eirann by 3 pts despite fielding understrength , referre gary smith was very poor for both sides , also one of clann,s full back line got away with a judas punch from behind  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on April 11, 2010, 12:33:31 PM
Tullysran beat belleeks 1.11 to .3. It was a very one sided game with beleek only scoring one point from play (I think). A belleek player suffered a bad injury rite at the death so I hope he is ok.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 11, 2010, 01:29:26 PM
nab 1-12 tones 1-8

nab take some stopping going by last night forwards very good 4 point defeat flattered us if truth be told
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 11, 2010, 01:36:03 PM
Quote from: torres on April 11, 2010, 11:52:15 AM
granemore beat clann eirann by 3 pts despite fielding understrength , referre gary smith was very poor for both sides , also one of clann,s full back line got away with a judas punch from behind  >:(
quelle suprise  ::)
Fair play G'more deserved the win in end, C/E started well in 2nd half but couldn't kill it off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on April 11, 2010, 05:50:49 PM
took in the ogs v sarsfields game. ogs never really troubled but did let sarsfields back into it in the first half. some nice football played by ogs and sarsfields have a few nippy players. sarsfield player got sent off for a bad tackle on chris rafferty who was very good throughout. dont know why he was dropped from the county panel with some of the players on it at present. kieran hughes and declan mcmanus were also in fine form. a lot of mistakes were made by both teams but this was only natural as it's the first game. any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 11, 2010, 06:12:35 PM
Harps beat Ballyheagan by 5 last night, 1.13 to 2.5.  Ballyheagan could have been well in front at HT but a missed pen and another gilt edged goal chance.  We stepped it up in the 2nd and ran out comfortable enough winners.  Couple of promising performances from Deccie McKenna and Paddy McCoy, both minors last year. 

Good to see Paul McGrane playing again, still a magnificent fielder, him and Holmes had a good battle.  Ballyhegan are a strong enough looking outfit this year, and not distracted by county committments could suprise a few in Div 2.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on April 12, 2010, 12:49:23 AM
ref in the dromintee game had to be seen to be believed had a awfull day at the office...we wer beaten by a wel worked fist half goal at the end of the day...poor enough performance and much improvement need...free for all broke out with seconds to go didnt see what started it but both panels went at it in the middle of the pitch.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on April 12, 2010, 02:21:59 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 11, 2010, 06:12:35 PM
Harps beat Ballyheagan by 5 last night, 1.13 to 2.5.  Ballyheagan could have been well in front at HT but a missed pen and another gilt edged goal chance.  We stepped it up in the 2nd and ran out comfortable enough winners.  Couple of promising performances from Deccie McKenna and Paddy McCoy, both minors last year. 

Good to see Paul McGrane playing again, still a magnificent fielder, him and Holmes had a good battle.  Ballyhegan are a strong enough looking outfit this year, and not distracted by county committments could suprise a few in Div 2.

Could he not do a job for us yet benny in the mf area?

Good win for the harps and i would have killed to watch Holmes and McGrane go at it today. :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 12, 2010, 10:21:57 AM
Armagh All-County League Results for w/e Sunday 11 April 2010

Division I
Mullaghbawn 0-8; Crossmaglen 0-10
Pearse Og 3-13; Sarsfields 1-11
Killeavy 2-5; Maghery 1-12
Culloville 1-9; Dromintee 0-9
St Patrick's 0-8; Whitecross 0-16
Clan na Gael v Carrickcruppen (Monday 12th April at 7.30pm)

Division II
Silverbridge 1-8; Tir na nÓg 1-8
St Peter's 0-6; St Michael's 0-13
Keady 2-8; Madden 0-8
Clann Eireann 1-11; Granemore 1-13
Wolfe Tone 1-8; Ballymacnab 1-12
Armagh Harps 1-13; Ballyhegan 2-6

Division III
Tullysaran 1-11; Belleek 0-3
Middletown 1-9; St Paul's 0-11
Forkhill 1-9; Lissummon 1-10
Clonmore 2-6; Collegeland 0-12
Shane O'Neill's defeated Eire Og
An Port Mor 1-6; Annaghmore 1-14

Division IV
Phelim Brady's 2-8; St Patrick's 2-11
Crossmaglen II v Killean
Clady 0-6; Corrinshego 0-8
Dorsey Emmett's 2-7; Derrynoose 1-11
Grange 0-13; Killeavey II 1-8
O'Hanlon's 0-10; Mullabrack 0-8

Taken from Armaghgaa.net
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on April 12, 2010, 10:35:38 AM
Just want to say well done to the Armagh Minor Hurlers, that is some achievement winning the ulster minor league and something that can not be looked over. I remember playing these games ten years ago and getting absolutely tanked.  Hopelfully they can hold it together kick on and give the C'ship a good rattle, although Antrim, Down and Derry will probably bring more to the table. Any reports on the game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 12, 2010, 11:01:05 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 11, 2010, 06:12:35 PM
Harps beat Ballyheagan by 5 last night, 1.13 to 2.5.  Ballyheagan could have been well in front at HT but a missed pen and another gilt edged goal chance.  We stepped it up in the 2nd and ran out comfortable enough winners.  Couple of promising performances from Deccie McKenna and Paddy McCoy, both minors last year. 

Good to see Paul McGrane playing again, still a magnificent fielder, him and Holmes had a good battle.  Ballyhegan are a strong enough looking outfit this year, and not distracted by county committments could suprise a few in Div 2.

You missed the last free for Ballyhegan. McGrane was superb, lorded midfield I thought. Pity Paddy McKeever wasn't at the races.
Davitts couldn't follow the strong 1st half performance &  Harps had a great 2nd half where young McCoy & Kevin Kelly were very dangerous. Mckenna is a big lad, will be a super asset.

Good to see Paul Courtney back in action... obviously ring rusty, but he'll be a great help this year.

Easy game to ref... but might as well give him credit he was very good.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 12, 2010, 03:23:08 PM
would anyone have a list of the league fixtures for the year?  had them off orchard county but seem to have misplaced them.  thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mhacadoir on April 12, 2010, 04:28:45 PM
the middletown v St Pauls match finished 1-11 to 0-12 to Middletown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 12, 2010, 10:03:44 PM
Clans game abandoned 10 min into second half. Player badly injured cruppen were winning
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 12, 2010, 11:52:51 PM
Cruppin were 9 - 5 up before the game had to be stopped due to a serious injury.

Close enough game up until then. Looked like the clans were starting to come back into it. Cruppin took some very good scores and looked sharp up front. Always seemed to have a lot of options.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 13, 2010, 09:31:35 AM
Cruppin deservedly in the lead at half time 0-09 - 0-04, 2nd half Clans seemed to have upped their game a bit and pulled a point back to 0-09 0-05 but 8 min into 2nd half a David Kelly hit to the side of the face on Ronan Austin resulted on a broken jaw and the game abandoned due to the player out cold on the pitch waiting on an ambulance. The wait was over 30 mins and players had got cold so ref decided to call it off, on the hit itself i thought it was a very poor challenge and one I'm sure any true Gael would not be proud off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ulick on April 13, 2010, 11:39:21 AM
When you say hit are we talking a dig here?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 13, 2010, 11:49:09 AM
Quote from: Ulick on April 13, 2010, 11:39:21 AM
When you say hit are we talking a dig here?

No, shoulder into face. Not a punch (sorry should have stated that)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 13, 2010, 01:58:30 PM
Have witnessed tackles like this before in Gaelic football and i have to say they should not be acceptable in any circumstance. Didn't see last nights incident but i did witness a certain beaver doing it on Philly Oldham (who is no small lad) Oldham was out cold and actually took a fit, very frightening and a sight i wouldn't want to witness again. The fact that Kelly only got a yellow last night (from what i hear) says it all. Hope Ronan gets well soon as he hasn't had much luck on the injury front lately.


On a similiar  note i also think it is a disgrace in Gaelic football that an injured player has to lie on the field for 30 mins with little or no full medical help. This is an issue that clubs must tackle and the GAA should be trying to ensure that someone with medical background is present at all time. In the event of serious injuries the first few minutes can be crucial and you don't want someone who thinks they know what they are doing, wading in and doing something wrong. No player in the modern game should be lying on a cold surface for 30 minutes, the potential risks are endless ie shock. I think this is an issue that needs to be seriously looked at before someone dies on the field of play. I would be interested to know are the any clubs in Armagh that have a particular policy that covers this. My own club certainly doesn't and it seems like a problem that will only become an issue when someone is seriously hurt.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 13, 2010, 02:24:25 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 13, 2010, 01:58:30 PM
Have witnessed tackles like this before in Gaelic football and i have to say they should not be acceptable in any circumstance. Didn't see last nights incident but i did witness a certain beaver doing it on Philly Oldham (who is no small lad) Oldham was out cold and actually took a fit, very frightening and a sight i wouldn't want to witness again. The fact that Kelly only got a yellow last night (from what i hear) says it all. Hope Ronan gets well soon as he hasn't had much luck on the injury front lately.


On a similiar  note i also think it is a disgrace in Gaelic football that an injured player has to lie on the field for 30 mins with little or no full medical help. This is an issue that clubs must tackle and the GAA should be trying to ensure that someone with medical background is present at all time. In the event of serious injuries the first few minutes can be crucial and you don't want someone who thinks they know what they are doing, wading in and doing something wrong. No player in the modern game should be lying on a cold surface for 30 minutes, the potential risks are endless ie shock. I think this is an issue that needs to be seriously looked at before someone dies on the field of play. I would be interested to know are the any clubs in Armagh that have a particular policy that covers this. My own club certainly doesn't and it seems like a problem that will only become an issue when someone is seriously hurt.

Win in fairness there was a doctor with him within minutes and he talked to medical staff from a mob phone giving his condition etc i don't know where he came from but it certainly looks like it was just concidence that he was there. You could see him lying there after about 30mins on the ground shaking with the cold (people did have him wrapped in tops etc but not enough) in saying that maybe they were not allowed to move him incase there was neck injury and made him worse. It was def not nice to see it and as you mention thats a few now that i've came across in my time and it's a few too many but unfortunately i don't think there is a whole lot you can do about it.

BTW a medical car with doctor was there within 5 minutes and an ambulance after 15 min to which they treated him for 20 mins on pitch so i have to praise them for being there so quickly
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on April 13, 2010, 03:07:20 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 13, 2010, 09:31:35 AM
, on the hit itself i thought it was a very poor challenge and one I'm sure any true Gael would not be proud off.
so this was an accidental challenge, dont like the insinuation that it was deliberate
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 13, 2010, 03:13:51 PM
Quote from: naka on April 13, 2010, 03:07:20 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 13, 2010, 09:31:35 AM
, on the hit itself i thought it was a very poor challenge and one I'm sure any true Gael would not be proud off.
so this was an accidental challenge, dont like the insinuation that it was deliberate

Who knows? there is only one man who can answer that and that's Kelly himself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 13, 2010, 04:28:23 PM
As i say i wasn't there but the lack of professional help present at games is a very worrying prospect
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 13, 2010, 04:35:15 PM
Quote from: naka on April 13, 2010, 03:07:20 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 13, 2010, 09:31:35 AM
, on the hit itself i thought it was a very poor challenge and one I'm sure any true Gael would not be proud off.
so this was an accidental challenge, dont like the insinuation that it was deliberate
Don't know how you can accidentally shoulder somebody in the head... If you mean was there malice involved then the answer is probably not.
Regarding medical personnel, it is fortunate that this match was in Lurgan as the rapid response crowd could get there in minutes. Had it been the back arse of S.Armagh it would have meant a longer wait. Good point though as there doesn't seen to be any policy covering this issue at club level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on April 13, 2010, 04:44:55 PM
win spoke to someone from claneirann club who confirmed that a doctor was present and attended immediately. all other medical personnel attended asap which was great. know what u mean about having proper medical attendance at games only that order of Malta was at ogs / harps game a few years ago there could have been a fatality when a player swallowed his tongue. dont agree with the witch hunt on kelly I'm sure he didn't mean to break his jaw. may have been a rash challenge but i bet kelly regrets it now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 13, 2010, 08:57:00 PM
The doctor was Sean Mac dermot who plays for Clan Eireann and was only there because they were training after the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on April 13, 2010, 10:45:29 PM
firstly i,d like to wish ronan a speedy recovery as he,s had enough injuries in the past to do him , cant comment on the lad who commited the challenge but hope it was,nt delibrate , unlike the lad in the clann eirann v granemore game who not only threw a potentinly dangerous punch from behind which could have done ontold damage [ which thankfully did,nt ] but then added insult to the injury by kicking thegrounded  player he felled [ and not even a booking ],  all totally against the spirit of the game , at the end of the day its only a game and no  one  should be put in a life threntening position because of it .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 13, 2010, 11:14:16 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 13, 2010, 08:57:00 PM
The doctor was Sean Mac dermot who plays for Clan Eireann and was only there because they were training after the game.

So there would have been little or no help at the game if this lad hadn't been there for training. Totally not acceptable IMO

Also i am not involved in a witch hunt on Kelly as i didn't see the incident and am only going on second hand knowledge, therefore couldn't possibly accuse him of intent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 14, 2010, 11:01:57 AM
Ive no doubt he meant to hit him but not in the way that he did and certainly not to do any damage. IMO it was one of those challenges that was on the verge of being dirty but could also have been a perfect challenge only for a split second. These happen all the time and are part of the game. Unfortunatley in this case it has resulted in someone being hurt but its a full contact sport lads and these things, although worrying, are inevitable from time to time. Ive heard that Kelly was very apologetic and went straight to the hospital after the game to talk to Ronan and his family. A regrettable situation no doubt, especially for Ronan and the Clans, but thats our sport - if you dont like it take up its faggoty cousin - soccer!! lol ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 14, 2010, 12:10:57 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 14, 2010, 11:01:57 AM
Ive no doubt he meant to hit him but not in the way that he did and certainly not to do any damage. IMO it was one of those challenges that was on the verge of being dirty but could also have been a perfect challenge only for a split second. These happen all the time and are part of the game. Unfortunatley in this case it has resulted in someone being hurt but its a full contact sport lads and these things, although worrying, are inevitable from time to time. Ive heard that Kelly was very apologetic and went straight to the hospital after the game to talk to Ronan and his family. A regrettable situation no doubt, especially for Ronan and the Clans, but thats our sport - if you dont like it take up its faggoty cousin - soccer!! lol ;D ;D

Correct
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 14, 2010, 01:14:12 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 14, 2010, 12:10:57 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 14, 2010, 11:01:57 AM
Ive no doubt he meant to hit him but not in the way that he did and certainly not to do any damage. IMO it was one of those challenges that was on the verge of being dirty but could also have been a perfect challenge only for a split second. These happen all the time and are part of the game. Unfortunatley in this case it has resulted in someone being hurt but its a full contact sport lads and these things, although worrying, are inevitable from time to time. Ive heard that Kelly was very apologetic and went straight to the hospital after the game to talk to Ronan and his family. A regrettable situation no doubt, especially for Ronan and the Clans, but thats our sport - if you dont like it take up its faggoty cousin - soccer!! lol ;D ;D

Correct

i agree with you ivedecided and wouldnt have thought he wanted to cause damage to austy but the thing i didnt like was him having a quare laugh as he was being booked and young ronan out cold on the ground
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 14, 2010, 01:45:52 PM
Sure the boys from South Armagh think we play soccer anyway :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on April 14, 2010, 03:31:42 PM
win surely clans have a medical person/physio with their senior team who would have emergency first aid training. most senior clubs i know have them and pay for their services and if they dont they would need too as its as important as the manager?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 14, 2010, 05:13:43 PM
Maybe i am doing the girl they have a  diservice but she strikes me of more as massus than a  proper doctor(if that's how you spell it) certainly the medical kits wouldn't be acceptable in the case of a real emergency (this much is fact)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on April 14, 2010, 05:16:01 PM
well candy see u in the back ground. have u got the old boots polished for the season. hoping to oust one of the young pretenders? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 16, 2010, 11:17:30 AM
With Armagh playing Down next Sunday I'll expect the games for that Sunday to be played either the Fri night or Sat evening, the problem is we have to go to Crossmaglen on a Fri night and leaving Lurgan to get to Cross for an early throw in will be tough going... ???

Has anyone heard what the County Board have proposed for next weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 16, 2010, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 16, 2010, 11:17:30 AM
With Armagh playing Down next Sunday I'll expect the games for that Sunday to be played either the Fri night or Sat evening, the problem is we have to go to Crossmaglen on a Fri night and leaving Lurgan to get to Cross for an early throw in will be tough going... ???

Has anyone heard what the County Board have proposed for next weekend?

illdecide know our game v keady is friday 7.15...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on April 16, 2010, 03:02:48 PM
you can arrange ur games for fri or sat by mutual agreement otherwise they will be fixed for friday at 7.15pm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 16, 2010, 07:53:58 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 16, 2010, 11:17:30 AM
With Armagh playing Down next Sunday I'll expect the games for that Sunday to be played either the Fri night or Sat evening, the problem is we have to go to Crossmaglen on a Fri night and leaving Lurgan to get to Cross for an early throw in will be tough going... ???

Has anyone heard what the County Board have proposed for next weekend?

It's not nice doing that run on a Friday evening, it would be nice if a team agreed to change it.  I know I never liked having to drive ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 16, 2010, 11:09:45 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 16, 2010, 07:53:58 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 16, 2010, 11:17:30 AM
With Armagh playing Down next Sunday I'll expect the games for that Sunday to be played either the Fri night or Sat evening, the problem is we have to go to Crossmaglen on a Fri night and leaving Lurgan to get to Cross for an early throw in will be tough going... ???

Has anyone heard what the County Board have proposed for next weekend?

It's not nice doing that run on a Friday evening, it would be nice if a team agreed to change it.  I know I never liked having to drive ;)

Sure you feckers never came to Lurgan for four years and it wasn't the fear of playing the Clans either...i could never understand that...you obviously didn't care for the points as Clans were winning leagues and the £20 fine from County Board was cheaper than sending 6 cars ;) was it arrogance or anything not to get us a good gate...(and b4 you start when we were winning leagues you were winning All Irelands...blah blah ;) :D)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on April 17, 2010, 08:45:45 AM
Anyone know of the county lads will be allowed to play for their clubs this weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 17, 2010, 10:41:03 AM
Quote from: illdecide on April 16, 2010, 11:09:45 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 16, 2010, 07:53:58 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 16, 2010, 11:17:30 AM
With Armagh playing Down next Sunday I'll expect the games for that Sunday to be played either the Fri night or Sat evening, the problem is we have to go to Crossmaglen on a Fri night and leaving Lurgan to get to Cross for an early throw in will be tough going... ???

Has anyone heard what the County Board have proposed for next weekend?

It's not nice doing that run on a Friday evening, it would be nice if a team agreed to change it.  I know I never liked having to drive ;)

Sure you feckers never came to Lurgan for four years and it wasn't the fear of playing the Clans either...i could never understand that...you obviously didn't care for the points as Clans were winning leagues and the £20 fine from County Board was cheaper than sending 6 cars ;) was it arrogance or anything not to get us a good gate...(and b4 you start when we were winning leagues you were winning All Irelands...blah blah ;) :D)


No its just Fri night is pull a t**ker night in Cross square, with diesel on tap! Sure who the f**k would wanna head to Lurgan to play ball with that going on?? By the time the lads got back all the best tinkers would be gone  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 17, 2010, 10:42:46 AM
P.S - BC1, it would prob have been a lot worse for some of the lads that were playing to have to drive.  ;D ;) ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 17, 2010, 04:50:20 PM
Quote from: Skiddybadoo on April 17, 2010, 08:45:45 AM
Anyone know of the county lads will be allowed to play for their clubs this weekend?

yes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 17, 2010, 08:26:05 PM
madden 0-14 st.peters 2-3. st peters scored 2 points in last 50 mins of game.joe feeney must have got ten points.good idea to move him from full forward to chf
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on April 17, 2010, 08:32:44 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 17, 2010, 04:50:20 PM
Quote from: Skiddybadoo on April 17, 2010, 08:45:45 AM
Anyone know of the county lads will be allowed to play for their clubs this weekend?

yes

Good good.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on April 18, 2010, 03:42:08 PM
granemore 3-14 - 0-6 keady .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on April 18, 2010, 03:43:59 PM

Result Crossmaglen 2-15 Cruppen 0-05

Half Time was Cross 0-11 Cruppen 0-00

Aaron Kernan played at Midfield today
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 18, 2010, 03:57:58 PM
Harps beat Tir na nOg by 2pts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on April 18, 2010, 04:09:31 PM
Tullysaran 2.10 Middletown 0.07..

Tullysaran Down to 14 men in 2nd half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 18, 2010, 04:23:58 PM
Maghery 0-10 Pearse Ogs 2-09
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 18, 2010, 04:31:51 PM
Mullaghbawn beat Cullavile by 1 point. 

A second half which saw 4 red cards, 3 for Cullavile and one for Mullaghbawn.  Some of Culloville's late tackling was ridiculous, two games in a row that Cullovile have been involved in incidents, need 2 look at their discipline.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 18, 2010, 04:38:43 PM
Whitecross 0-18 - Clans 1-10.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 18, 2010, 04:52:14 PM
Clans hit 12 second half wides including 8 unanswered!! Game could have been won only for this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 18, 2010, 05:06:49 PM
Sarsfields 2-9 St Pat's 0-14. Sarsfields got a goal and a point in injury time to win the match. Very frustrating as we played reasonably well at times. Very poor start to the league losing at home to Whitecross and away to Sarsfields.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sickboy on April 18, 2010, 05:25:52 PM
ballymacnab beat ballyhegan 1-16 to 3-08
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on April 18, 2010, 06:41:02 PM
St Michaels beat Silverbridge. 1-7 to 12pts.
We missed alot but St michaels were all over us. Kevin O'Rourke scored 6 points from play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 18, 2010, 07:42:25 PM
ACL Division 1 St Patrick's 0-14 Highmoss Sarsfields 2-9

The Senior side travelled to North Armagh on Sunday afternoon looking to bounce back from a disappointing display against Whitecross last week however they got off to the worst possible start with Sarsfields scoring a goal after 6 minutes. Aidan Mackin replied with a point after a good interception before the sides exchanged points from frees with Robbie Tasker and Eugene Casey on the mark for Cullyhanna. After 17 minutes Tony Donnelly narrowed the deficit to the minimum with an excellent score from a tight angle as St Pat's started to get a stranglehold on the match thanks to the midfield dominance of Gary McCooey. St Pat's got three further successive points through Mal Makin and Tony Donnelly. By this stage Cullyhanna were very much in the ascendancy though two rare forays forward late in the half resulted in Sarsfields side as they regained their lead by half time on a scoreline of 1-5 to 0-7.

The second half began brightly for the men from Lower Creggan as Tony Donnelly exchanged passes with Robbie Tasker before scoring a fine point. Eugene Casey then got two scores to put his side two points ahead. Sarsfields replied with a score from a long ball into attack. The final quarter of the match was fairly even with both sides pressing forward when possible however Cullyhanna looked to have secured the victory when Eugene Casey made a superb solo run down the touchline before kicking a miraculous point from the sideline while under pressure. Robbie Tasker added a further point after 31 minutes to put St Pat's 3 points up and seemingly in control. But disaster struck deep into injury time as a Sarsfields crossed pass was punched to the net for a goal. With the wind in their sails, the home side won possession from the resultant kick out and kicked what proved to be the winning score 5 minutes in injury time. Although they had a couple of late opportunities Cullyhanna could not find an equalising point and slumped to a morale sapping defeat.

While the result was clearly a huge disappointment, particularly given the presence of our county players, it is only fair to note that this was a much improved performance. Spectators were treated to some fine point scoring however it was the home side's greater ability to score goals at crucial times which cost Cullyhanna the match. With no points from 2 matches, next weekend's match at home to Maghery will be a crucial fixture.   


ACL Div 4: St. Patrick's 0-15 O'Hanlon's 0-8

St. Patrick's made it two out of two in their first season in the all county league with this deserved win over O'Hanlon's in a game played in good conditions at Cullyhanna. The team got off to an unfortunate start losing no less than 3 players to muscle injuries in the first 10 minutes of the game. Despite these setbacks the team showed good spirit to get on with the matter in hand with the subs who came in quickly settling into the rhythm of the game. On play the first half was even enough with both sides having periods of dominance. Brendan Nugent opened the scoring with a point for St. Pat's before the visitors equalised with converted free a few minutes later. Ciaran Nugent edged the homesters ahead again with a minor score but Poyntzpass having their best period of the game tacked on a brace of points to take the lead for the only time in the game. As the game entered the last 10 minutes of the half Cullyhanna stepped up things with points from Tony Durnin and Brendan Nugent. O'Hanlon's pulled one back but once again St. Pat's responded positively with another brace from Rory O'Neill and Patsy McKeever to leave their time 0-6 to 0-4 ahead at the break.

A point from a free by Rory O'Neill got St. Patrick's off to a good start on the resumption. O'Hanlon's responded again with a point before Brendan Murray stretched Cullyhanna's lead with a well taken point. The same player then added another two as Cullyhanna moved up a pace but as before O'Hanlon's were able to respond with a brace of their own. As the half progressed the game opened up a bit more with chances being created by both sides. With only 10 minutes left their was still only a goal in it with the result still up for grabs. St. Pat's showed a very positive attitude at this stage of the game and hit 4 unanswered points to claim a comfortable enough win in the end. The win marks a very positive start to the new venture and no doubt the team can build on this and improve as they get more games under their belt.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on April 18, 2010, 08:28:48 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 18, 2010, 07:42:25 PM
ACL Division 1 St Patrick's 0-14 Highmoss Sarsfields 2-9

The Senior side travelled to North Armagh on Sunday afternoon looking to bounce back from a disappointing display against Whitecross last week however they got off to the worst possible start with Sarsfields scoring a goal after 6 minutes. Aidan Mackin replied with a point after a good interception before the sides exchanged points from frees with Robbie Tasker and Eugene Casey on the mark for Cullyhanna. After 17 minutes Tony Donnelly narrowed the deficit to the minimum with an excellent score from a tight angle as St Pat's started to get a stranglehold on the match thanks to the midfield dominance of Gary McCooey. St Pat's got three further successive points through Mal Makin and Tony Donnelly. By this stage Cullyhanna were very much in the ascendancy though two rare forays forward late in the half resulted in Sarsfields side as they regained their lead by half time on a scoreline of 1-5 to 0-7.

The second half began brightly for the men from Lower Creggan as Tony Donnelly exchanged passes with Robbie Tasker before scoring a fine point. Eugene Casey then got two scores to put his side two points ahead. Sarsfields replied with a score from a long ball into attack. The final quarter of the match was fairly even with both sides pressing forward when possible however Cullyhanna looked to have secured the victory when Eugene Casey made a superb solo run down the touchline before kicking a miraculous point from the sideline while under pressure. Robbie Tasker added a further point after 31 minutes to put St Pat's 3 points up and seemingly in control. But disaster struck deep into injury time as a Sarsfields crossed pass was punched to the net for a goal. With the wind in their sails, the home side won possession from the resultant kick out and kicked what proved to be the winning score 5 minutes in injury time. Although they had a couple of late opportunities Cullyhanna could not find an equalising point and slumped to a morale sapping defeat.

While the result was clearly a huge disappointment, particularly given the presence of our county players, it is only fair to note that this was a much improved performance. Spectators were treated to some fine point scoring however it was the home side's greater ability to score goals at crucial times which cost Cullyhanna the match. With no points from 2 matches, next weekend's match at home to Maghery will be a crucial fixture.   

over on TOC some poster from sarsfields mentioned they had a player stamped on while one of  your midfielder,s was sent off for a bit of boxing  :o


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 18, 2010, 09:07:10 PM
Dromintee 0-12 Killeavy 0-11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 18, 2010, 10:13:37 PM
clann  eireann 0-09 wolfe tone 0-10
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on April 18, 2010, 11:05:14 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 18, 2010, 10:13:37 PM
clann  eireann 0-09 wolfe tone 0-10
pretty poor match for both teams not good viewing at all result could have gone either way.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on April 18, 2010, 11:36:22 PM
Whats wrong with the Armagh resultrs page?

http://www.rte.ie/aertel/450-01.html (http://www.rte.ie/aertel/450-01.html)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 18, 2010, 11:51:41 PM
Quote from: Orior on April 18, 2010, 11:36:22 PM
Whats wrong with the Armagh resultrs page?

http://www.rte.ie/aertel/450-01.html (http://www.rte.ie/aertel/450-01.html)

By the way Orior;

Redmond O'Hanlon, Barney Canavan, Rory Best, Sir Charles Poyntz, Simon Best, John Rafferty your boys took a hell of a beating.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 18, 2010, 11:55:46 PM
Quote from: true on April 18, 2010, 11:05:14 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 18, 2010, 10:13:37 PM
clann  eireann 0-09 wolfe tone 0-10
pretty poor match for both teams not good viewing at all result could have gone either way.

derby games hardly ever good tbh couldnt give a f**k idf won 0-01 to 0-00 2 points is 2 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: John Martin on April 18, 2010, 11:57:58 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 18, 2010, 11:51:41 PM
Quote from: Orior on April 18, 2010, 11:36:22 PM
Whats wrong with the Armagh resultrs page?

http://www.rte.ie/aertel/450-01.html (http://www.rte.ie/aertel/450-01.html)

By the way Orior;

Redmond O'Hanlon, Barney Canavan, Rory Best, Sir Charles Poyntz, Simon Best, John Rafferty your boys took a hell of a beating.

I heard the pass where missing some important players, most notably their left half forward. You'll not have it as handy in the return fixture.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 19, 2010, 12:03:19 AM
Quote from: John Martin on April 18, 2010, 11:57:58 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 18, 2010, 11:51:41 PM
Quote from: Orior on April 18, 2010, 11:36:22 PM
Whats wrong with the Armagh resultrs page?

http://www.rte.ie/aertel/450-01.html (http://www.rte.ie/aertel/450-01.html)

By the way Orior;

Redmond O'Hanlon, Barney Canavan, Rory Best, Sir Charles Poyntz, Simon Best, John Rafferty your boys took a hell of a beating.

I heard the pass where missing some important players, most notably their left half forward. You'll not have it as handy in the return fixture.

I think its their left half back you're referring to but I take your point John Martin. Every side in Division 4 will be fearful of the return of this giant of modern football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on April 19, 2010, 12:22:52 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 18, 2010, 11:51:41 PM
Quote from: Orior on April 18, 2010, 11:36:22 PM
Whats wrong with the Armagh resultrs page?

http://www.rte.ie/aertel/450-01.html (http://www.rte.ie/aertel/450-01.html)

By the way Orior;

Redmond O'Hanlon, Barney Canavan, Rory Best, Sir Charles Poyntz, Simon Best, John Rafferty your boys took a hell of a beating.

*Keeps powder dry*
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on April 19, 2010, 08:03:05 AM
Quote from: sickboy on April 18, 2010, 05:25:52 PM
ballymacnab beat ballyhegan 1-16 to 3-08

Paddy O'Rourke in attendance to see young Rory Grugan have a stormer. A real prospect!

Paul McGrane again immence for Davitts, could still play Inter County!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on April 19, 2010, 09:39:59 AM
How did Ronan Clarke get on in the Ogs match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 19, 2010, 10:35:32 AM
Whitecross beat Clans by 5pts (as someone already stated) Whitecross started well and were 0-07 - 0-01 up halfway thru the 1st half, Clans upped their game and drew level at 0-07 each; then a further 2 pts at the end of the half had Whitecross going in 0-09 to 0-07. 2nd half Whitecross started the better and dominated most of the 2nd half, they scored point after point to lead 0-18 to 0-08 with 7 mins to go. Clans scored a good goal and a couple of pts to leave a 5pt win for Whitecross.

Clans kicked 10 wides in the 2nd half alone and def could have got a bit closer to Whitecross if they'd have had their shooting boots on in saying that Whitecross deserved to win, they have no superstars in their team but they all work hard for one another and i doubt very much that they'll be near the relegation fight come the end of the season. As for the Clans we were missing a few players (3) but we're def gonna have to roll the sleeves up a bit and dig deep, Cross on Fri night away but hopefully a better display from the Clans...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on April 19, 2010, 10:50:22 AM
With leagues now underway, anyone care to update their predictions for league and championship based on early form (only for fun mind you, i know things can change)

Div.1: Cross - win the league pulling up
Div.2: Granemore - should just get across the line
Div.3: Tullysarron - handed out 2 big hidings to big hopefuls in 3 already
Div.4 Cross II - depends if seniors need a hand   ;)

Senior C'ship: Cross to avenge last years hiccup
Intermediate: Hard to Know, Ballyhegan might give it a rattle.
Junior: Tullysarron - dead certs I would say (although see note Re Div.4 winners)







Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on April 19, 2010, 11:07:29 AM
avenge last years hiccup. what a load of crap, ogs beat them fair and square and had been threatening for a number of years. if anything the ogs are stronger this year and cross are not with the retirements of the macs and jd. hopefully they will meet in the championship. bye bye rodger.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on April 19, 2010, 11:13:24 AM
Quote from: mackers on April 19, 2010, 09:39:59 AM
How did Ronan Clarke get on in the Ogs match?
played the full game, a bit rusty but scored a couple of good points, set up a goal and created plenty of chances. he should be ok for his favourite ground on sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 19, 2010, 11:30:27 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on April 19, 2010, 11:07:29 AM
avenge last years hiccup. what a load of crap, ogs beat them fair and square and had been threatening for a number of years. if anything the ogs are stronger this year and cross are not with the retirements of the macs and jd. hopefully they will meet in the championship. bye bye rodger.

Think i'd agree with ya wanderer
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on April 19, 2010, 11:55:22 AM

Did Phillip Loughran transfer to the Ogs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 19, 2010, 12:25:22 PM
No, Clady refused to sign the transfer form
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 19, 2010, 01:21:47 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on April 19, 2010, 11:07:29 AM
avenge last years hiccup. what a load of crap, ogs beat them fair and square and had been threatening for a number of years. if anything the ogs are stronger this year and cross are not with the retirements of the macs and jd. hopefully they will meet in the championship. bye bye rodger.
Have to say I strongly agree with wanderer, what's there to fear anymore?  The physical aspect of Cross's game got them through an awful lot of games, with the Macs and Donaldson gone(anyone else?) that leaves a helluva hole to be filled.  They will still win Armagh champs, quite possibly even this year, but I think the worm has turned.  AK in MF yesterday will hardly scare anyone!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 19, 2010, 01:26:16 PM
Wrong - it will scare Cross supporters!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 19, 2010, 01:40:41 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 19, 2010, 12:25:22 PM
No, Clady refused to sign the transfer form

Fair play to Clady at least someone is willing to make a stand against the glory hunters
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on April 19, 2010, 02:18:03 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 19, 2010, 01:21:47 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on April 19, 2010, 11:07:29 AM
avenge last years hiccup. what a load of crap, ogs beat them fair and square and had been threatening for a number of years. if anything the ogs are stronger this year and cross are not with the retirements of the macs and jd. hopefully they will meet in the championship. bye bye rodger.
Have to say I strongly agree with wanderer, what's there to fear anymore?  The physical aspect of Cross's game got them through an awful lot of games, with the Macs and Donaldson gone(anyone else?) that leaves a helluva hole to be filled.  They will still win Armagh champs, quite possibly even this year, but I think the worm has turned.  AK in MF yesterday will hardly scare anyone!!

Has Francie retired?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on April 19, 2010, 03:05:28 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 19, 2010, 01:40:41 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 19, 2010, 12:25:22 PM
No, Clady refused to sign the transfer form

Fair play to Clady at least someone is willing to make a stand against the glory hunters

He will still betransferring-to Newry Shamrocks Im led to believe-hardly a team that will be experiencing glory any time soon. From what i hear across the peace line Clady dont field youth teams-is that correct???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 19, 2010, 05:45:39 PM
We haven't gone away you know.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 19, 2010, 07:39:05 PM
Could yous go away this fri night?? Take yourselves off somehwere nice... ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 19, 2010, 08:10:46 PM
Ashburn lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on April 19, 2010, 09:54:17 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 18, 2010, 11:55:46 PM
Quote from: true on April 18, 2010, 11:05:14 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 18, 2010, 10:13:37 PM
clann  eireann 0-09 wolfe tone 0-10
pretty poor match for both teams not good viewing at all result could have gone either way.

derby games hardly ever good tbh couldnt give a f**k idf won 0-01 to 0-00 2 points is 2 points
[2 points is 2 points abs.  but if tones dont improve more points mite b hard to come by. We wont be able to rely on questionable side line decisions in every game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!/quote]
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 19, 2010, 10:06:55 PM
Armagh Club Fixtures for Friday 23 April 2010

Friday 23 April
ACL – Div. I (7.15)
Crossmaglen v Clan na Gael (Rory Robinson)
Culloville v Carrickcruppen (Joe Murtagh)
Killeavy v Mullaghbawn (Gary Smith)
Pearse Og v Dromintee (Barney Henry)
Sarsfields v Whitecross (Jim Lynch)
St Patrick's v Maghery (Paudie Hughes)
ACL – Div. II (7.15)
Silverbridge v Madden (Vincent O'Neill)
St Michael's v Tir na nÓg (Frank McDonald)
St Peter's v Granemore (Seamus O'Neill)
Clann Eireann v Ballyhegan (Raymond Watters)
Ballymacnab v Armagh Harps (Keith Smith)
Wolfe Tone v Keady (Patrick Duffy) at Eire Og
ACL – Div. III (7.15)
Tullysaran v Lissummon (Tony O'Hare)
St Paul's v Collegeland (Eamon Nugent)
Forkhill v Eire Og (Kevin Murtagh)
Clonmore v Annaghmore (Jim Slevin)
Shane O'Neill's v An Port Mor (Kevin McNeice)
ACL – Div. IV (7.15)
Corrinshego v Crossmaglen II (Dessie McDonnell)
Clady v Derrynoose (Ger Devlin)
Killean v Killeavy II (Jimmy McKee)
Dorsey Emmett's v Mullabrack (Jim Burns)
Phelim Brady's v O'Hanlon's (Paul Boylan)
Grange v St Patrick's II (Mickey Leonard)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 19, 2010, 10:07:37 PM
Armagh Club Results for w/e Sunday 18 April 2010

ACL – Div. I
Sarsfields 2-9; St Patrick's 0-14
Maghery 0-10; Pearse Og 2-9
Dromintee 0-12; Killeavy 0-11
Mullaghbawn 2-6; Culloville 1-8
Carrickcruppen 0-5; Crossmaglen 2-15
Whitecross 0-18; Clan na Gael 1-10
ACL – Div. II
Tir na nÓg 2-8; Armagh Harps 2-10
Ballyhegan 3-8; Ballymacnab 1-16
Clann Eireann 0-9; Wolfe Tone 0-10
Granemore 3-14; Keady 0-6
Madden 0-14; St Peter's 2-3
St Michael's 0-12; Silverbridge 1-7
ACL – Div. III
Belleek 0-7; An Port Mor 0-12
Annaghmore 1-4; Shane O'Neill's 0-14
Eire Og 1-12; Clonmore 1-2
Collegeland 5-4; Forkhill 0-10
Lissummon 0-8; St Paul's 0-13
Middletown 0-7; Tullysaran 2-10
ACL – Div. IV
St Patrick's II 0-15; O'Hanlon's 0-8
Mullabrack 0-5; Grange 2-17
Killeavy II 1-9; Dorsey Emmett's 2-6
Derrynoose 1-16; Killean 1-5
Crossmaglen II 6-21; Clady 0-4
Corrinshego 4-17; Phelim Brady's 1-4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 19, 2010, 10:08:24 PM
Armagh ACL Tables as at Sunday 18 April 2010

Division I
Team P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 2 2 0 0 4
Pearse Og 2 2 0 0 4
Whitecross 2 2 0 0 4
Culloville 2 1 0 1 2
Dromintee 2 1 0 1 2
Maghery 2 1 0 1 2
Mullaghbawn 2 1 0 1 2
Sarsfields 2 1 0 1 2
Carrickcruppen 1 0 0 1 0
Clan na Gael 1 0 0 1 0
Killeavy 2 0 0 2 0
St Patrick's 2 0 0 2 0

Division II
Team P W D L Pts
Armagh Harps 2 2 0 0 4
Ballymacnab 2 2 0 0 4
Granemore 2 2 0 0 4
St Michael's 2 2 0 0 4
Keady 2 1 0 1 2
Madden 2 1 0 1 2
Wolfe Tone 2 1 0 1 2
Silverbridge 2 0 1 1 1
Tir na nÓg 2 0 1 1 1
Ballyhegan 2 0 0 2 0
Clann Eireann 2 0 0 2 0
St Peter's 2 0 0 2 0

Division III
Team P W D L Pts
Tullysaran 2 2 0 0 4
Shane O'Neill's 2 2 0 0 4
Collegeland 2 1 1 0 3
Annaghmore 2 1 0 1 2
An Port Mor 2 1 0 1 2
Eire Og 2 1 0 1 2
Lissummon 2 1 0 1 2
Middletown 2 1 0 1 2
St Paul's 2 1 0 1 2
Clonmore 2 0 1 1 1
Belleek 2 0 0 2 0
Forkhill 2 0 0 2 0

Division IV
Team P W D L Pts
Corrinshego 2 2 0 0 4
Derrynoose 2 2 0 0 4
Grange 2 2 0 0 4
St Patrick's II 2 2 0 0 4
Dorsey Emmett's 2 0 1 1 3
Crossmaglen II 1 1 0 0 2
O'Hanlon's 2 1 0 1 2
Killeavy II 2 0 1 1 1
Killean 1 0 0 1 0
Clady 2 0 0 2 0
Mullabrack 2 0 0 2 0
Phelim Brady's 2 0 0 2 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on April 20, 2010, 04:36:17 PM
what the hell happened at the culloville v mullaghbawn match, 4 sending offs and a bit nasty too i hear. two weeks in a row c/ville has had fisty cuffs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 20, 2010, 06:00:02 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on April 20, 2010, 04:36:17 PM
what the hell happened at the culloville v mullaghbawn match, 4 sending offs and a bit nasty too i hear. two weeks in a row c/ville has had fisty cuffs.
i think the next boxing event in Armagh should be a royal rumble, culloville v cullyhanna  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 21, 2010, 01:42:13 PM
Two of the cleanest teams around  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 22, 2010, 04:28:57 PM
Crossmaglen v Clan na Gael (Rory Robinson) Draw ;)
Culloville v Carrickcruppen (Joe Murtagh) Cruppin by 2 (Culloville must have plenty of suspensions)
Killeavy v Mullaghbawn (Gary Smith) Draw
Pearse Og v Dromintee (Barney Henry) OG's by 4
Sarsfields v Whitecross (Jim Lynch) Sarsfields by 2
St Patrick's v Maghery (Paudie Hughes) St Pats by 1
ACL – Div. II (7.15)
Silverbridge v Madden (Vincent O'Neill) Bridge by 1
St Michael's v Tir na nÓg (Frank McDonald) St Michaels by 2
St Peter's v Granemore (Seamus O'Neill) Granemore by 5
Clann Eireann v Ballyhegan (Raymond Watters) Clann Eireann by 2
Ballymacnab v Armagh Harps (Keith Smith) Harps by 2
Wolfe Tone v Keady (Patrick Duffy) at Eire Og Tones by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on April 23, 2010, 08:49:52 PM
 ST PETERS 0-2  -  1-20  GRANEMORE
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 23, 2010, 09:15:08 PM
Ballymacnab 1 - 15
Harps 1- 8

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 23, 2010, 09:28:02 PM
Pearse Og 0-14
Dromintee 0-9
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 23, 2010, 09:58:07 PM
Whitecross hammered Sarsfields apparently

Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on April 23, 2010, 10:05:53 PM
Mullagbawn beat Killeavy by 2 points, 1-09, 0-10

We were always in control and led from start 2 finish, playing a much better brand of football this year, solid start 2 the season and now we have something to build on....Killeavy have a very young team......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on April 23, 2010, 10:36:05 PM
maghery and st pats was a draw 0-12 1-09 . pats winning 5-4 at ht maghery went 0-08 0-05 up 2nd half then pats got their goal to stay in the game was nip and tuck throughout with pats taking a 1 point lead last 5 maghery went 1 in front and pats scored a free last kick. good hard hitting game with no dirt what soever just good honest hard tackling with no afters just 2 teams getting on with it what the gaa is all about.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 23, 2010, 10:37:53 PM
Cross 1-20 Clans 0-10

Clans were muck.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on April 23, 2010, 10:45:46 PM
Newtown beat Tir na nOg by 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 24, 2010, 01:23:31 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 23, 2010, 09:15:08 PM
Ballymacnab 1 - 15
Harps 1- 8
Could have been more tbh but for the Nab's prolifigacy in front of goal in the 1st, although mid-way through the second half when down to a 1 or 2 point game I thought we could sneak it.  Colly Holmes was immense for us.

We had 10 starters from last year's County final missing tonight!  Too big of a hole for any team to plug.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 24, 2010, 10:06:16 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 23, 2010, 10:37:53 PM
Cross 1-20 Clans 0-10

Clans were muck.


What do you expect when the lads are playing without a manager!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Benny Barnaveld on April 24, 2010, 10:53:59 AM
Clann Eireann        2-11
Ballyhegan            0-10

Scoreline very flattering to the Clanns. There was a point in it with 5 mins left.
Ballyhegan missed 3 good goal chances in the first half when they were playing rightly. Clanns got in twice and bagged both.
Mc Grane had to come off 10 mins into the second half. Looked like a hamstring, hopefully not too serious  :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 24, 2010, 11:10:52 AM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on April 23, 2010, 10:36:05 PM
maghery and st pats was a draw 0-12 1-09 . pats winning 5-4 at ht maghery went 0-08 0-05 up 2nd half then pats got their goal to stay in the game was nip and tuck throughout with pats taking a 1 point lead last 5 maghery went 1 in front and pats scored a free last kick. good hard hitting game with no dirt what soever just good honest hard tackling with no afters just 2 teams getting on with it what the gaa is all about.

I was at the Seconds match but I heard there was a very controversial disallowed goal for St Pat's right at the death.

Grange gave St Pat's II a fair trimming. Grange are a good side by Division 4 standards.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 24, 2010, 12:17:23 PM
wolfe tone 1-14 keady 0-12
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on April 24, 2010, 09:54:37 PM
has any1 got full list of results from div 1 how did cruppen and cullaville get on ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 24, 2010, 10:40:52 PM
Cullaville won
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 25, 2010, 12:37:05 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 25, 2010, 03:14:52 AM
Quote from: crossfire on April 24, 2010, 10:40:52 PM
Cullaville won


f**k you you cross ****

Send up your senior team the next time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 26, 2010, 10:12:18 AM
Armagh ACL Tables as at Friday 23 April 2010


Division I
Team P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 3 3 0 0 6
Pearse Og 3 3 0 0 6
Whitecross 3 3 0 0 6
Mullaghbawn 3 2 0 1 4
Maghery 3 1 1 1 3
Culloville 3 1 0 1 4
Dromintee 3 1 0 2 2
Sarsfields 3 1 0 2 2
St Patrick's 3 0 1 2 1
Carrickcruppen 2 0 0 2 0
Clan na Gael 2 0 0 2 0
Killeavy 3 0 0 3 0

Division II
Team P W D L Pts
Ballymacnab 3 3 0 0 6
Granemore 3 3 0 0 6
St Michael's 3 3 0 0 6
Armagh Harps 3 2 0 1 4
Wolfe Tone 3 2 0 1 4
Silverbridge 3 1 1 1 3
Clann Eireann 3 1 0 2 2
Keady 3 1 0 2 2
Madden 3 1 0 2 2
Tir na nÓg 3 0 1 2 1
Ballyhegan 3 0 0 3 0
St Peter's 3 0 0 3 0

Division III
Team P W D L Pts
Tullysaran 3 3 0 0 6
Shane O'Neill's 3 3 0 0 6
Collegeland 3 2 1 0 5
Annaghmore 3 2 0 1 4
Middletown 3 2 0 1 4
An Port Mor 3 1 0 2 2
Eire Og 3 1 0 2 2
Forkhill 3 1 0 2 2
Lissummon 3 1 0 2 2
St Paul's 3 1 0 2 2
Clonmore 3 0 1 2 1
Belleek 3 0 0 3 0

Division IV
Team P W D L Pts
Grange 3 3 0 0 6
Derrynoose 3 2 1 0 5
Crossmaglen II 2 2 0 0 4
Corrinshego 3 2 0 1 4
O'Hanlon's 3 2 0 1 4
St Patrick's II 3 2 0 1 4
Dorsey Emmett's 2 0 1 1 3
Killeavy II 3 1 1 1 3
Clady 3 0 1 2 1
Killean 2 0 0 2 0
Mullabrack 2 0 0 2 0
Phelim Brady's 3 0 0 3 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 26, 2010, 10:34:41 AM
Anyone got a full list of results for the weekend games (All divsions)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 26, 2010, 10:44:24 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 26, 2010, 10:34:41 AM
Anyone got a full list of results for the weekend games (All divsions)

Here's most of them

ACL – Div. I
Crossmaglen 1-20; Clan na Gael 0-10
Culloville v Carrickcruppen
Killeavy 0-10; Mullaghbawn 1-9
Pearse Og 0-14; Dromintee 0-9
Sarsfields 0-6; Whitecross 3-14
St Patrick's 1-9; Maghery 0-12

ACL – Div. II
Silverbridge 1-9 Madden 0-10
St Michael's defeated Tir na nÓg
St Peter's 0-2; Granemore 1-20
Clann Eireann 2-11; Ballyhegan 0-10
Ballymacnab 1-15; Armagh Harps 1-8
Wolfe Tone 1-14; Keady 0-12

ACL – Div. III
Collegeland 0-10; St Paul's 0-6
Tullysaran 0-12; Lissummon 0-5
Middletown defeated Belleek
Forkhill 4-12; Eire Og 0-9
Clonmore lost to Annaghmore
Shane O'Neill's 2-16; An Port Mor 1-2

ACL – Div. IV
Corrinshego lost to Crossmaglen II
Killean 1-4; Killeavy II 0-12
Grange defeated St Patrick's II
Clady v Derrynoose
Dorsey Emmett's v Mullabrack
Phelim Brady's v O'Hanlon's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on April 26, 2010, 10:51:39 AM
Was the goal the Ogs conceded against Sarsfields the first one in a long time?
Very mean defence and will be hard to stop this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on April 26, 2010, 11:25:38 AM
benny/benny 10 missing, excuses, sure some of the new players are better than the starting 15 from last year surely. think most teams have players out at the moment ogs had 7 missing from county final team on fri and dromintee had a similar amount missing, but thats life and the league is for blooding new players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on April 26, 2010, 03:09:38 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on April 26, 2010, 11:25:38 AM
benny/benny 10 missing, excuses, sure some of the new players are better than the starting 15 from last year surely. think most teams have players out at the moment ogs had 7 missing from county final team on fri and dromintee had a similar amount missing, but thats life and the league is for blooding new players.

What point are you tring to make, there is no relevance to your point when you follow it up with the above bold when the Harps opposition were at home and full strenght

But you're talking about the mighty Ogs though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 26, 2010, 03:40:03 PM
The Nab were missing 4-5 1st team players, including Brian Mc Cone who was on the county panel and left it. thats why teams need a panel, so that when you are missing players you can call on your bench.

That chances of the harps having these players all year round is going to be slim, with lads in Uni, County lads, injuries  etc. so every time the harps get beat all we are going to hear we were missing .............................................................................. blah blah blah

on another note, the harps should also be missing another player for their next few games, one of the morrisons i dont know the difference headbutted one of our lads and only got booked, dont know what drugs the ref was on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on April 26, 2010, 03:58:53 PM
Spirit i was pointing out that with a panel of 38 for last years county final players should be in a position to cover in the event of injuries etc. Also the younger players from last years minor team are also available and should leave a healthy amount of cover. ps nab with a smaller panel also had players missing as stated by onion. not full strength and dont undermine the players coming in as not bein as good as some of last years starting 15. ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 26, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Where did Ive Decided's nice post go to. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Worker on April 26, 2010, 08:47:19 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on April 24, 2010, 12:17:23 PM
wolfe tone 1-14 keady 0-12

Any chance of a match report Charles?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 26, 2010, 09:51:45 PM
Any predictions for the U21FC on Wednesday? Who'd be favourites, Cross/Cullyhanna/Ogs/Harps?

Armagh Harps v St Paul's
St Patrick's v Madden
St John's v Clan na Gael
Pearse Og v St Brigid's
Ballymacnab v Killeavy
Maghery v Middletown
Granemore v Clann Eireann
Crossmaglen v Carrickcruppen
Silverbridge v Shane O'Neill's
Eire Og v St Peter's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on April 26, 2010, 10:18:36 PM
Armagh Club Fixtures for w/e Sunday 2 May 2010

Wednesday 28 April
Armagh Under-21 Football Championship – 1st Round (7.15)
Armagh Harps v St Paul's (Jim Burns)
St Patrick's v Madden (Barney Henry)
St John's v Clan na Gael (Stephen McKinley)
Pearse Og v St Brigid's (Stephen Murray)
Ballymacnab v Killeavy (Mickey Leonard)
Maghery v Middletown (Ronan Quigley)
Granemore v Clann Eireann (Kevin Murtagh)
Crossmaglen v Carrickcruppen (Jimmy McKee)
Silverbridge v Shane O'Neill's (Tony O'Hare)
Eire Og v St Peter's (Paul Boylan)
1st named team has Home venue
(Extra time, if required)

Thursday 29 April
ACL – Div. IV (7.15)
Crossmaglen II v Phelim Brady's (Patrick Duffy)

Friday 30 April
ACL – Div. I (7.15)
Dromintee v St Patrick's (Ronan Quigley)
Whitecross v Crossmaglen (Jim Burns)
ACL – Div. II (7.15)
St Peter's v Wolfe Tone (Kevin Gallogly)
Granemore v Silverbridge (Stephen Murray)
ACL – Div. III (7.15)
Lissummon v Middletown (Ger Devlin)
Eire Og v St Paul's (Rory Robinson)
ACL – Div. IV (7.15)
Killeavy II v Clady (Vincent O'Neill)

Saturday 1 May
ACL – Div. 1 (6.00)
Maghery v Sarsfields (Mickey Leonard)
ACL – Div. III (5.30)
Annaghmore v Forkhill (Barney Henry)

Sunday 2 May
ACL – Div. I (2.00)
Carrickcruppen v Killeavy (Raymond Watters)
Clan na Gael v Culloville (Gary Smith)
ACL – Div. II (2.00)
Madden v St Michael's (Jimmy McKee)
Ballyhegan v Keady (Stephen McKinley)
Tir na nÓg v Ballymacnab (Damian McConville)
ACL – Div. III (2.00)
An Port Mor v Clonmore (Joe Murtagh)
Collegeland v Tullysaran (Paudie Hughes)
Belleek v Shane O'Neill's (Jim Lynch)
ACL – Div. IV (2.00)
St Patrick's II v Dorsey Emmett's (Frank McDonald)
Mullabrack v Killean (Seamus O'Neill)
Derrynoose v Corrinshego (Jim Slevin)
O'Hanlon's v Grange (Keith Smith)


www.armaghgaa.net

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 27, 2010, 09:52:41 AM
Quote from: crossfire on April 26, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Where did Ive Decided's nice post go to.

He must have got bad diesel in the car and took it out on the south armagh lads...lol. I'll assume he's banned :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 27, 2010, 10:08:27 AM
Quote from: illdecide on April 27, 2010, 09:52:41 AM
Quote from: crossfire on April 26, 2010, 08:42:20 PM
Where did Ive Decided's nice post go to.

He must have got bad diesel in the car and took it out on the south armagh lads...lol. I'll assume he's banned :o

It was posted at around 11:30pm.  I thought maybe a touch of alcohol might have prompted it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Miley Cyrus on April 27, 2010, 10:16:28 AM
Whats this i here the Wolfe tones where playing a protestant against KEADY at the weekend.... Im all for cross community sports if they did :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 27, 2010, 10:20:12 AM
Quote from: Miley Cyrus on April 27, 2010, 10:16:28 AM
Whats this i here the Wolfe tones where playing a protestant against KEADY at the weekend.... Im all for cross community sports if they did :o

Ohh my f**king God...r u serious!!! what's the world coming too...Tones Bastids ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 27, 2010, 11:57:58 AM
Did you make a remark about bringing a senior team up next time crossfire that would have sparked him of?????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 27, 2010, 02:06:57 PM
Im still here lads chill out!! I can only assume the Mods got rid of my nice art work.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on April 27, 2010, 05:52:40 PM
Quote from: Miley Cyrus on April 27, 2010, 10:16:28 AM
Whats this i here the Wolfe tones where playing a protestant against KEADY at the weekend.... Im all for cross community sports if they did :o

Stupid comment... so what if they did?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 27, 2010, 05:54:43 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 27, 2010, 02:06:57 PM
Im still here lads chill out!! I can only assume the Mods got rid of my nice art work.

They must have let u decide then saan ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 27, 2010, 06:39:14 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 27, 2010, 11:57:58 AM
Did you make a remark about bringing a senior team up next time crossfire that would have sparked him of?????
Look a couple posts back from that.
Crossfire answered a question and he called him a cross ****....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 27, 2010, 08:28:14 PM
Quote from: crossfire on April 25, 2010, 12:37:05 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 25, 2010, 03:14:52 AM
Quote from: crossfire on April 24, 2010, 10:40:52 PM
Cullaville won


f**k you you cross ****

Send up your senior team the next time.


And here are both
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on April 27, 2010, 09:17:57 PM
So what "sparked him off"?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 27, 2010, 10:15:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on April 27, 2010, 09:21:19 PM
I thought it was a good reply from crossfire.

Was there anything wrong in sending our reserve team to play Cross, the B league starts next week and we needed to get some lads some game time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 27, 2010, 10:43:38 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on April 27, 2010, 09:17:57 PM
So what "sparked him off"?

That was a question i had asked as i wasn't sure myself what had brought it on. ie had crossfire said this first or what. Hence the question marks after it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 27, 2010, 10:48:28 PM
Quote from: Miley Cyrus on April 27, 2010, 10:16:28 AM
Whats this i here the Wolfe tones where playing a protestant against KEADY at the weekend.... Im all for cross community sports if they did :o

enlighten me ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 28, 2010, 09:56:00 PM
Harps beat St Pauls in the U21 championship 1.15 to 0.13
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 28, 2010, 09:58:04 PM
Cross beat Cruppen by 3 in under 21.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 28, 2010, 10:02:24 PM
St John's 1-8
Clans 3-13
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 28, 2010, 10:31:08 PM
Good enough
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on April 28, 2010, 10:43:24 PM
granemore bt c eirann .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bobbiesoxer on April 28, 2010, 10:46:34 PM
st pats beat madden
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on April 29, 2010, 12:20:29 AM
cullyhanna v dromintee game off this weekend
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on April 29, 2010, 07:13:21 AM
Maghery V Sarsfields senior league game at 7pm on Sat.night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: killeavygael08 on April 29, 2010, 12:53:30 PM
Quote from: torres on April 28, 2010, 10:43:24 PM
granemore bt c eirann .

killeavy u21 bt ballymcnab.

think thats killeavy vs granemore in the next round... am i right?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 29, 2010, 01:29:10 PM
Quote from: centrefield on April 29, 2010, 12:20:29 AM
cullyhanna v dromintee game off this weekend

Any word on why?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 29, 2010, 02:21:33 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 29, 2010, 01:29:10 PM
Quote from: centrefield on April 29, 2010, 12:20:29 AM
cullyhanna v dromintee game off this weekend

Any word on why?

Armagh are involved in some heritage thing this weekend and that anyone with players involved can call their game off (haven't a scooby do what the heritage thing is about) thats what i was told
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on April 29, 2010, 03:27:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 29, 2010, 02:21:33 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 29, 2010, 01:29:10 PM
Quote from: centrefield on April 29, 2010, 12:20:29 AM
cullyhanna v dromintee game off this weekend

Any word on why?

Armagh are involved in some heritage thing this weekend and that anyone with players involved can call their game off (haven't a scooby do what the heritage thing is about) thats what i was told
thats what i heard also. teams with players attending can try to re-arrange the games at a time that suits both teams, think it was tried to arrange the match for saturday evening but between one thing and another it didnt suit both teams....dromintee now have a friendly against kilcurly on sat night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on April 29, 2010, 05:22:08 PM
maghery and middletown u21s  drew last night in a decent enough game.however paudie(i have 2 b center of attention)Hughes wouldnt play extra time as stated by co board for some unknown reason. match was over at 8:40 wasnt dark til at least 9;20 ??? ??? walked off the field all smiles with both teams still on the pitch :-\ :-\complete tool
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on April 29, 2010, 06:03:47 PM
Quote from: killeavygael08 on April 29, 2010, 12:53:30 PM
Quote from: torres on April 28, 2010, 10:43:24 PM
granemore bt c eirann .

killeavy u21 bt ballymcnab.

think thats killeavy vs granemore in the next round... am i right?
you are indeed right , lets hope we can make a better game of it than our neighbours . who,s at home in this tie ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on April 30, 2010, 02:18:53 PM
once again paudie confirms him self as the clown prince of referees. full of his own self importance. >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on April 30, 2010, 02:25:15 PM
No senior inter-county players are available for their clubs tonight as they are attending a function in the city hotel for the new armagh brand and development strategy for the county. sounds like an exciting launch goin by the invitations issued to people.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 30, 2010, 03:18:25 PM
Once again the elites within the Gaa are reaping the rewards of the peasants hard work and of course the peasants aren't invited
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on April 30, 2010, 04:22:07 PM
win i am, what happened to you maybe its your bad comments that has left you of the list. ps are you not a member of friends of armagh they have all been invited as well. ps just heard that the launch will be in lurgan shortly too if they can find a buckfast free venue. any suggestions, what about the local baptist hall :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 30, 2010, 05:28:53 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 30, 2010, 03:18:25 PM
Once again the elites within the Gaa are reaping the rewards of the peasants hard work and of course the peasants aren't invited
Sounds more like an excuse not to let the county men play for their clubs before the championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on April 30, 2010, 05:34:45 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 30, 2010, 05:28:53 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 30, 2010, 03:18:25 PM
Once again the elites within the Gaa are reaping the rewards of the peasants hard work and of course the peasants aren't invited
Sounds more like an excuse not to let the county men play for their clubs before the championship.

Exactly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on April 30, 2010, 10:41:34 PM
Quote from: stew on April 30, 2010, 05:34:45 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 30, 2010, 05:28:53 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 30, 2010, 03:18:25 PM
Once again the elites within the Gaa are reaping the rewards of the peasants hard work and of course the peasants aren't invited
Sounds more like an excuse not to let the county men play for their clubs before the championship.

Exactly.

Folks I would just like to point your attention to why the matches were called of tonight, and if I hope that after having a good read that no one thinks that its elitist or a ploy for players not to play for their clubs.  It was actually the launch of one of the most ambitious projects that Armagh has ever undertaken, and one that will hopefully secure the future of the GAA in Armagh

www.itsmyarmagh.com

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on May 01, 2010, 09:13:51 AM
Very ambitious indeed and good luck to them......any idea where the proposed Centre of Excellence is going to be?

Unfortunately club commitments (financial) will limit a lot of peoples ability to help fund this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 01, 2010, 11:51:27 AM
Quote from: orange2009 on April 30, 2010, 10:41:34 PM
Quote from: stew on April 30, 2010, 05:34:45 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 30, 2010, 05:28:53 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 30, 2010, 03:18:25 PM
Once again the elites within the Gaa are reaping the rewards of the peasants hard work and of course the peasants aren't invited
Sounds more like an excuse not to let the county men play for their clubs before the championship.

Exactly.

Folks I would just like to point your attention to why the matches were called of tonight, and if I hope that after having a good read that no one thinks that its elitist or a ploy for players not to play for their clubs.  It was actually the launch of one of the most ambitious projects that Armagh has ever undertaken, and one that will hopefully secure the future of the GAA in Armagh

www.itsmyarmagh.com


Ambitious yes Orange and i hope all works out but why didn't they just tell the clubs this instead of going about it in secret. Surely the clubs have a right to know. Speaking to our senior manager yesterday and he knew nothing about this but somehow Culloville who we were due to play were told they could call the game off, as did many other south Armagh clubs. SO is there a breakdown in communication somewhere or what has went wrong?


Wanderer on the buckfast issue, granted there are a lot in lurgan who indulge in the shite i personally don't touch it. There are actually bars in lurgan that don't sell it at all. But the baptists hall maybe your best shot
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 01, 2010, 12:05:57 PM
Where's the proposed site for thon?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on May 01, 2010, 01:42:45 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 01, 2010, 11:51:27 AM
Quote from: orange2009 on April 30, 2010, 10:41:34 PM
Quote from: stew on April 30, 2010, 05:34:45 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 30, 2010, 05:28:53 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 30, 2010, 03:18:25 PM
Once again the elites within the Gaa are reaping the rewards of the peasants hard work and of course the peasants aren't invited
Sounds more like an excuse not to let the county men play for their clubs before the championship.

Exactly.

Folks I would just like to point your attention to why the matches were called of tonight, and if I hope that after having a good read that no one thinks that its elitist or a ploy for players not to play for their clubs.  It was actually the launch of one of the most ambitious projects that Armagh has ever undertaken, and one that will hopefully secure the future of the GAA in Armagh

www.itsmyarmagh.com


Ambitious yes Orange and i hope all works out but why didn't they just tell the clubs this instead of going about it in secret. Surely the clubs have a right to know. Speaking to our senior manager yesterday and he knew nothing about this but somehow Culloville who we were due to play were told they could call the game off, as did many other south Armagh clubs. SO is there a breakdown in communication somewhere or what has went wrong?


Wanderer on the buckfast issue, granted there are a lot in lurgan who indulge in the shite i personally don't touch it. There are actually bars in lurgan that don't sell it at all. But the baptists hall maybe your best shot

Surely the clubs in Armagh were told about and invited to this launch - if not then what role does the clubs play in the county?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on May 02, 2010, 10:35:25 AM
maghery beat the highmoss 3-12 2-13 last night maghery were flying 1st half taking some great flowing scores including 2 goals .started 2nd half much the same taking a 14 point lead then after a few changes they seem to stop and let high moss back into the game sarsfields scoreing 2-4 in the last 5 mins r so.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 02, 2010, 11:35:27 AM
Sarsfields have gone backwards something shocking by these results. Though scoring 2-13 should be enough to win most games which indicates the problems lie in defence
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on May 02, 2010, 02:15:21 PM
  GRANEMORE 0-12 - 0-5 SILVERBRIDGE .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 02, 2010, 09:05:35 PM
Division 4 – St Patrick's II 0-7 Dorsey Emmets 1-10

A large crowd were in attendance at St Patrick's Park to witness this much anticipated local derby as the Dorsey Emmets senior side met a St Pat's team for the first time since the formation of the Emmets at the start of the last decade. Both sides showed signs of early nerves missing scorable opportunities but it was Dorsey who got the opening score of the match after a quick free kick. Shane O'Neill levelled matters 8 minutes in with a fine catch and well taken point. Conor Campbell took advantage of some lax Cullyhanna defending to put his side back in front but Cullyhanna forged into the lead with a long range Shane O'Neill point from play and a brilliant Rory O'Neill free from the right touchline. Two Dorsey points regained their advantage as the game ebbed and flowed, however in the last 10 minutes of the first half, St Pat's enjoyed their best spell of the match with points from Shane O'Neill and Brendan Murray, as well as a fine score from Tony Durnin putting Cullyhanna 2 points clear after 27 minutes. But disaster struck 2 minutes from halftime when some very naïve defending left Gary Mackin in space in the penalty area and when the ball was played in, the Dorsey man made no mistake in finding the net to put his side 1-4 to 0-6 ahead at the break.

Cullyhanna will certainly have been very disappointed to have trailed at half-time given that they had marginally the better of the first half exchanges but unfortunately a number of scorable wides and some slack defending meant that their territorial dominance was not translated into a half-time lead. While the game appeared to be wide open at half-time, the second half proved to be a severe disappointment to the Cullyhanna lads who were dominated by their parish neighbours in almost all facets of play. In a second half marred by the dismissal of a player from both sides for 2 yellow card infractions each, Dorsey reeled off 5 points in a row to secure victory as the St Pat's side ran out of steam. A late Brendan Nugent point was the only consolation for St Pat's as Dorsey ran out convincing victors. While the players will no doubt be disappointed at the result and second half performance, they should take heart from the manner in which they competed in the first period especially considering that they were facing a side who were challenging for promotion last year and have infinitely more experience of 4th Division football than the Cullyhanna team in their first season in the All County League.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 03, 2010, 04:00:11 PM
madden 2-08 newtown 0-08
tirnanog 0-06 ballymacnab 1-11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on May 03, 2010, 05:54:38 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 03, 2010, 04:00:11 PM
madden 2-08 newtown 0-08
tirnanog 0-06 ballymacnab 1-11
bit of a shock result madden beating the previously unbeaten st michaels , what,s wrong with tir na nog this season i thought they,ed be challenging at the top end of the division . the nab and granemore remain unbeaten after 4 games .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 04, 2010, 08:51:41 AM
torres not that big of a shock as madden are hard to beat at home especially with feeney playing and some of their injured players back im told. when s the big derby games for yous nab and harps that will tell u more on the promotion front.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Triggerhappy on May 04, 2010, 10:27:04 AM
just been looking at the "MyArmagh" document and i am impressed with the proposals for the new centre of excellence. Has anyone any idea where it is to be located?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 04, 2010, 10:52:45 AM
Armagh Centre of Excellence approx cost £3.7 million  30-35 acre site

Tyrone Centre of Excellence approx cost £6 miilion 40 acre site

are we doing this job on the cheap or is it going to be a shit hole in comparison to our neighbours
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 04, 2010, 11:38:03 AM
can anyone post the u21 fixtures for this week?cheers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 04, 2010, 12:03:29 PM
onion always the doubting Thomas. do you think anyone spending 3.7 million will develop a shit hole as you state would be bonkers. Two factors you havent considered 1) land is cheaper now and or it may be on a long term lease from a public body. 2 development costs are much more competitive than a year ago. havin spoke to club tyrone people they estimate that if they wer starting again now you could knock 20-30% of the cost. So dry your eyes and contribute to the development instead of always being negative but still wanting the best but with no input.
ps Charlie just been given a fixtures book thks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 04, 2010, 12:12:17 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 04, 2010, 12:03:29 PM
onion always the doubting Thomas. do you think anyone spending 3.7 million will develop a shit hole as you state would be bonkers. Two factors you havent considered 1) land is cheaper now and or it may be on a long term lease from a public body. 2 development costs are much more competitive than a year ago. havin spoke to club tyrone people they estimate that if they wer starting again now you could knock 20-30% of the cost. So dry your eyes and contribute to the development instead of always being negative but still wanting the best but with no input.
ps Charlie just been given a fixtures book thks.

Ok Ok Ok calm down man, i was only comparing the 2

Doubting Thomas?
Always being Negative?
Dry my eyes?
Want the best and input nothing?

explain



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 04, 2010, 01:43:31 PM
I think they are self explanatory Onion bag lol ;) ;) ;) Though i must state i am only on the wind up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 04, 2010, 03:23:12 PM
Armagh ACL Tables as at Sunday 2 May 2010


Division I
Team                P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen       3 3 0 0   6
Pearse Og          3 3 0 0   6
Whitecross         3 3 0 0   6
Maghery             4 2 1 1   5
Culloville              3 1 0 1  4
Mullaghbawn        3 2 0 1  4
Carrickcruppen     3 1 0 2   2
Dromintee           3 1 0 2   2
Sarsfields             4 1 0 3   2
St Patrick's          3 0 1 2   1
Clan na Gael         2 0 0 2   0
Killeavy                4 0 0 4   0

Division II
Team              P W D L Pts
Ballymacnab      4 4 0 0   8
Granemore        4 4 0 0   8
St Michael's        4 3 0 1  6
Armagh Harps     3 2 0 1 4
Wolfe Tone        3 2 0 1 4
Madden              4 2 0 2 4
Silverbridge          4 1 1 2 3
Clann Eireann        3 1 0 2 2
Keady                  3 1 0 2 2
Tir na nÓg            4 0 1 3 1
Ballyhegan            3 0 0 3 0
St Peter's             3 0 0 3 0

Division III
Team              P W D L Pts
Collegeland        4 3 1 0 7
Shane O'Neill's    3 3 0 0 6
Annaghmore      4 3 0 1 6
Middletown        4 3 0 1 6
Tullysaran           4 3 0 1 6
An Port Mor        4 2 0 2 4
Eire Og               4 2 0 2 4
Forkhill                4 1 0 3 2
Lissummon           4 1 0 3 2
St Paul's              4 1 0 3 2
Clonmore             4 0 1 3 1
Belleek                3 0 0 3 0

Division IV
Team                 P W D L Pts
Grange               4 4 0 0  8
Derrynoose           4 3 1 0 7
Crossmaglen II       3 3 0 0 6
Dorsey Emmett's    3 1 1 1 5
Killeavy II               4 2 1 1 5
Corrinshego            4 2 0 2 4
O'Hanlon's             4 2 0 2 4
St Patrick's II          4 2 0 2 4
Killean                    3 1 0 2 2
Clady                      4 0 1 3 1
Mullabrack               3 0 0 3 0
Phelim Brady's         4 0 0 4 0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hurl4ever on May 04, 2010, 05:59:46 PM
my armagh just launched on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJuUTPPMY5c&playnext_from=TL&videos=njTxrFl6NZg&feature=sub

some good stuff on it, but is this just a football development thing?
no clips of hurling teams?
no clips of ladies football teams?
no camogie clips?
no club clips?
are these teams not as important to 'my armagh'...or is 'my armagh' just 'my armagh county footballers'?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armamike on May 04, 2010, 06:13:52 PM
Although the dvd focuses on football clips my understanding of it is that this initiative is for the development of all gaelic games in Armagh, not just football. The county is already pumping a lot of money and resource into hurling so i'm sure that will continue.

It's been overdue but it's really commendable what they're trying to do. i like the fact they're scrapping the friends of Armagh and Orchard club schemes and putting one brand out there that people can buy in to. It's probably the most ambitious undertaking ever in Armagh and is going to take a helluva lot of work and effort but with the likes of Paul Kelly leading it up i would be confident that there are good people in charge who will be able to deliver it. Himself and the other speakers at the launch of this last Friday night spoke really well and were very inspiring. I just hope they can get the message out on this to as many Armagh supporters as possible.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on May 05, 2010, 12:02:40 AM
This 'my Armagh' looks good in theory but with people being more selective in how they choose to spend their money I can't see this scheme taking off with the general public. I know personally my first loyalty will be to my club where I can see some real tangible benefit for the local community. After that I will support the county sure, but I don't have that same sense of attachment. From talking to fellow club members I know a lot of them would be of similar opinion. However I commend the plans and hope they can raise the finance needed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on May 05, 2010, 09:16:55 AM
Quote from: hurl4ever on May 04, 2010, 05:59:46 PM
my armagh just launched on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJuUTPPMY5c&playnext_from=TL&videos=njTxrFl6NZg&feature=sub

some good stuff on it, but is this just a football development thing?
no clips of hurling teams?
no clips of ladies football teams?
no camogie clips?
no club clips?
are these teams not as important to 'my armagh'...or is 'my armagh' just 'my armagh county footballers'?

there should def have the hurling and club stuff, but 'my armagh' is being run by the County Board which is GAA, Ladies football and Camogie have their own organisations seperate from the GAA (rightly or wrongly)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 05, 2010, 10:55:39 AM
look at the "my armagh" and i cant beleive that 178k was spent on armagh hurling teams in 2009. what a waste of money considering that little or no income came in from national league, sponsorship etc. i commend those hurlers in the county for playing the game but unfortunately armagh will never reach the senior hurling stage of division 1 teams. you only have to look at antrim who have great tradition and invested millions in recent years but now are going backways on the field. as gerry would say "its margaret in wonderland" to think armagh can be a top hurling county. handing out reams of playing gear etc each year does not improve the game. as for the plans of "my armagh" hopefully this will be a great success as we have stood still on the facilities within the county despite being one of the most successfull and well supported teams of the past 10 years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on May 05, 2010, 12:10:44 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 05, 2010, 10:55:39 AM
look at the "my armagh" and i cant beleive that 178k was spent on armagh hurling teams in 2009. what a waste of money considering that little or no income came in from national league, sponsorship etc. i commend those hurlers in the county for playing the game but unfortunately armagh will never reach the senior hurling stage of division 1 teams. you only have to look at antrim who have great tradition and invested millions in recent years but now are going backways on the field. as gerry would say "its margaret in wonderland" to think armagh can be a top hurling county. handing out reams of playing gear etc each year does not improve the game. as for the plans of "my armagh" hopefully this will be a great success as we have stood still on the facilities within the county despite being one of the most successfull and well supported teams of the past 10 years.

whether or not Armagh Hurlers ever become one of the top teams in the country is irrelevant, thats not what the gaa is about
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 05, 2010, 01:25:10 PM
Anyone got a full list of fixtures for this weekend
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on May 05, 2010, 01:28:13 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on May 05, 2010, 01:25:10 PM
Anyone got a full list of fixtures for this weekend

Up here - http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/armagh-club-fixtures-w-e-sunday-9-may-2010-a-435/

Armagh Club Fixtures for w/e Sunday 9 May 2010

Wednesday 5 May
Armagh Under-21 Football Championship
1st Round – Replay (7.15)
Middletown v Maghery (Ronan Quigley)
2nd Round (7.15)
Tir na nÓg v Crossmaglen (Patrick Duffy)
Granemore v Killeavy (Kevin McNeice)
Sarsfields v Clan na Gael (Jim Slevin)
Armagh Harps v Shane O'Neill's (Stephen Murray)
St Patrick's v Pearse Og (Seamus O'Neill)
Dromintee v Corrahill Gaels Blues (Paul Boylan)
St Peter's v Wolfe Tone (Ger Devlin)
All games at 1st named team's home ground
(Extra time, if required, at all games)
All-County 'B' Football League
Section B (7.15)
Tullysaran v Collegeland (Tony O'Hare)
Grange v Annaghmore (Raymond Watters)
Section C (7.15)
Madden v Whitecross (Jim Lynch)
Section D (7.15)
Silverbridge v Carrickcruppen (Joe Murtagh)
Belleek v Mullaghbawn (Vincent O'Neill)

Friday 7 May
ACL – Div. I (7.15)
Culloville v Crossmaglen (Mickey Leonard)
Whitecross v Maghery (Paul Boylan)
Pearse Og v Carrickcruppen (Dessie McDonnell)
St Patrick's v Mullaghbawn (Ger Devlin)
Sarsfields v Dromintee (Jimmy McKee)
Killeavy v Clan na Gael (Seamus O'Neill)
ACL – Div. II (7.15)
Keady v Armagh Harps (Eamon Nugent)
St Michael's v Granemore (Jim Slevin)
Wolfe Tone v Silverbridge (Patrick Duffy)
St Peter's v Ballyhegan (Kevin McNeice)
Tir na nÓg v Madden (Tony O'Hare)
Clann Eireann v Ballymacnab (Kevin Murtagh)
ACL – Div. III (7.15)
Forkhill v An Port Mor (Raymond Watters)
Tullysaran v Eire Og (Ronan Quigley)
St Paul's v Annaghmore (Joe Murtagh)
Belleek v Lissummon (Gary Smith)
Clonmore v Shane O'Neill's (Vincent O'Neill)
ACL – Div. IV (7.15)
Crossmaglen II v Derrynoose (Kevin Gallogly)
Grange v Phelim Brady's (Stephen McKinley)
Clady v Mullabrack (Rory Robinson)
Killean v St Patrick's II (Stephen Murray)
Dorsey Emmett's v O'Hanlon's (Damian McConville)
Corrinshego v Killeavy II (Barney Henry)

Sunday 9 May
ACL – Div. I (6.30)
Mullaghbawn v Pearse Og (Gary Smith)
ACL – Div. III (6.30)
Middletown v Collegeland (Patrick Duffy)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 05, 2010, 01:53:45 PM
Corrahill Gaels Blues  who in the name of christ are these guys splitting from or almalgamating with?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on May 05, 2010, 02:48:28 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 05, 2010, 01:53:45 PM
Corrahill Gaels Blues  who in the name of christ are these guys splitting from or almalgamating with?

Corrinshego, Forkhill and Culloville I think. Thought it was just Corrahill Blues, don't know when the Gaels bit entered the equation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 05, 2010, 03:30:14 PM
How is it possible to select a team when three team amalgamate? Who manages the team and who calls the shots? It is bound to lead to some arguments
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 05, 2010, 06:32:01 PM
Just organise a few training sessions beforehand and I'd say it sorts itself out. Wouldn't have thought that side would have a huge pick altogether anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 05, 2010, 07:05:28 PM
Yeah but who organises these few training sessions. There are three clubs involved surely all three will want an imput and surely all three will have different opinions as to the ability of certain individuals undoubtedly leading to conflict
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on May 05, 2010, 07:25:35 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 05, 2010, 03:30:14 PM
How is it possible to select a team when three team amalgamate? Who manages the team and who calls the shots? It is bound to lead to some arguments
an amalgameted team from clonmore , annaghmore and collageland got to the u-16 county final in 2000 they were named st john,s . i think a kilcluney side reached the latter stages of the minor championship in the late 90,s featuring players from ballymacnab,clady and granemore . when teams cant field on their own they normally join up with their parish neighbours , still would,nt like to be a  selector though  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 05, 2010, 09:08:32 PM
I know the ins and outs of how amalgamations are formed. I am also on record as saying that they shouldn't be allowed to be strong enough to compete for trophies, This is unfair on normal club teams who are scrapping together teams especially at the difficult age groups (u-21 being one). They are knocking their  pan in to get a team whilst they are coming up against 3 clubs that are just as strong.

On another note Clans beat Sarsfields u-21's

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 05, 2010, 09:24:12 PM
Sarsfields 1-9
Clans 2-11

Good win against a strong Highmoss side. Ref was poor, wouldn't let the game flow which is a shame given they were two attack-minded sides. Any other scores?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Benny Barnaveld on May 05, 2010, 09:32:54 PM
U21s

Tir Na Og   1-03               Crossmaglen   4-10

Roughly! Not sure if that was the exact score
Very one sided and corss missed at least 3 more handy goals
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 05, 2010, 11:03:54 PM
Quote from: torres on May 05, 2010, 07:25:35 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 05, 2010, 03:30:14 PM
How is it possible to select a team when three team amalgamate? Who manages the team and who calls the shots? It is bound to lead to some arguments
an amalgameted team from clonmore , annaghmore and collageland got to the u-16 county final in 2000 they were named st john,s . i think a kilcluney side reached the latter stages of the minor championship in the late 90,s featuring players from ballymacnab,clady and granemore . when teams cant field on their own they normally join up with their parish neighbours , still would,nt like to be a  selector though  :D

Not sure of the spelling but think it was actually Cill Chluana... they reached the quarter finals and knocked out by the Ogs. Another team that was knocking around at the time was Laochra ONeills. Think they were made up of 4 clubs can't remember who exactly. Have to agree with the other posters about amalgamations though, they should only be formed so a team can be fielded to represent the area. Around the late 90's the two teams above were serious contenders for the championship and I feel that they were formed for the wrong reason
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 06, 2010, 08:10:15 AM
ogs well beat  by st pats who look a very good team. minor champs of 3 years ago. didnt help the ogs that they had to field without their main player anto duffy who was injured at senior county trainin the nite before. player welfare what a joke makin players train the night before a championship match. ogs also had a number of other players missing thro injury from the 1st game, held st pats to 3 with a minute to halftime but a goal and a point deflated them. wasnt expecting a lot from this team as they struggled at underage. good luck to st pats who have a good team and will take some stopping especially if they continue to get home advantage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 06, 2010, 08:29:14 AM
Shamrocks (Ballyhegan & Maghery) got to the minor final in '99 only to be beaten by a Barry Boylan inspired Ogs. Destroyed every team that year, bar the Ogs, including a much fancied Cullyhanna team!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on May 06, 2010, 08:41:24 AM
While agreeing that teams should only amalgamate to keep lads playing football  only. If you look at the clubs who join, they are in the lower reaches of their leagues,they are always in very rural area`s. The fact that they may be lucky and win something every now and then,is no reason to deny them the opportunity to do so.How often to clubs in towns amalgamate? They have no reason to do so.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 06, 2010, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: JUst retired on May 06, 2010, 08:41:24 AM
While agreeing that teams should only amalgamate to keep lads playing football  only. If you look at the clubs who join, they are in the lower reaches of their leagues,they are always in very rural area`s. The fact that they may be lucky and win something every now and then,is no reason to deny them the opportunity to do so.How often to clubs in towns amalgamate? They have no reason to do so.

If they join up and win something that's fair enough but I remember the time of the Cil Chluana amalgamation their aim was to win the St Pauls tournament in Belfast!! That was even before they played their first game!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on May 06, 2010, 12:47:55 PM
Did they win it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 06, 2010, 01:45:10 PM
I remember a few years back St Paul's of Lurgan Joined up with Eire Og can't remember what they called themselves. But somewhere with an area the size of Taghnevan and Craigavon should be able to fields team and there should be no excuse.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 06, 2010, 02:04:11 PM
Quote from: ogshead on May 05, 2010, 11:03:54 PM
Quote from: torres on May 05, 2010, 07:25:35 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 05, 2010, 03:30:14 PM
How is it possible to select a team when three team amalgamate? Who manages the team and who calls the shots? It is bound to lead to some arguments
an amalgameted team from clonmore , annaghmore and collageland got to the u-16 county final in 2000 they were named st john,s . i think a kilcluney side reached the latter stages of the minor championship in the late 90,s featuring players from ballymacnab,clady and granemore . when teams cant field on their own they normally join up with their parish neighbours , still would,nt like to be a  selector though  :D

Not sure of the spelling but think it was actually Cill Chluana... they reached the quarter finals and knocked out by the Ogs. Another team that was knocking around at the time was Laochra ONeills. Think they were made up of 4 clubs can't remember who exactly. Have to agree with the other posters about amalgamations though, they should only be formed so a team can be fielded to represent the area. Around the late 90's the two teams above were serious contenders for the championship and I feel that they were formed for the wrong reason


I remember being hammered in the U21 championship around 99-2000 by a 4 team mix I think they were called Craobh Rua
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 06, 2010, 02:52:33 PM
Remember that myself saan in Tir Na Nogs pitch
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 06, 2010, 03:00:58 PM
4 teams amalgamating is ridiculous. same goes for ogs/st paul's, mind bein told about that but not believing it, i'm sure that was a match made in heaven  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 06, 2010, 03:38:38 PM
Quote from: ogshead on May 06, 2010, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: JUst retired on May 06, 2010, 08:41:24 AM
While agreeing that teams should only amalgamate to keep lads playing football  only. If you look at the clubs who join, they are in the lower reaches of their leagues,they are always in very rural area`s. The fact that they may be lucky and win something every now and then,is no reason to deny them the opportunity to do so.How often to clubs in towns amalgamate? They have no reason to do so.

If they join up and win something that's fair enough but I remember the time of the Cil Chluana amalgamation their aim was to win the St Pauls tournament in Belfast!! That was even before they played their first game!!

who told you the aim was to win St Pauls tournament, i played on that team, and i never even heard of the St pauls tournament till a few years after that, when the Harps and ogs i think won it


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on May 06, 2010, 07:50:53 PM
The St.Pauls /Eire Og amalgamation only lasted 1 year. At that time neither club could field at U16 level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: McMonkfish on May 06, 2010, 08:34:43 PM
cill chulana was four teams made up of ballymacnab, clady, granemore and mullabrack, we played them up in lissummon in the quarter-final, they lead for most of the game but the ogs came back, cill chulana actually miss a penalty in the dying minutes, i think the score was 1-5 to 10pts.

Laochra O'neills were made up of Shane O'Neills, Belleeks, O'hanlons and Lissummon i think, they destroyed us in the 1st half of semi final taking a 12pt lead into half time, we came back to draw in the last kick of the game with a monster kick from 50 yards up the hill in clady. The replay was a different affair we blew them away beating them by 12pts in Granemore.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on May 07, 2010, 08:36:50 AM
I was on an Ogs team that played cill chulana in the Mick Higgin's final in Abbey Park, remember them having some very good players and they were a v.strong team overall but they still didn't win  :)

Did 1 of them Ogs minor teams not play Laochra O'neills in the county final - the game where Tommy Graham saved a penalty for the Ogs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 07, 2010, 09:32:07 AM
Quote from: BenDover on May 07, 2010, 08:36:50 AM
I was on an Ogs team that played cill chulana in the Mick Higgin's final in Abbey Park, remember them having some very good players and they were a v.strong team overall but they still didn't win  :)

Did 1 of them Ogs minor teams not play Laochra O'neills in the county final - the game where Tommy Graham saved a penalty for the Ogs?

That was the U16 Final was it not?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on May 07, 2010, 11:11:52 AM
Orchard TV speaks to Paul Duffy in anticipation of the USFC game with Derry on 16th May in Celtic Park.

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--Paul-Duffy-looks-to-USFC-opener.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on May 07, 2010, 06:22:36 PM
st johns have fielded sides at u-16 / 18 / 21,s  i think it,s certainlty helped brendy donaghy  get good competitive football which he would,nt have got otherwise  8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: McMonkfish on May 07, 2010, 06:45:12 PM
yes that was the u16 final, when we beat them by a big score mousey was captain that year great day had by all, pity we had a shit u16 manager that year what a knob he was still is lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on May 07, 2010, 09:08:38 PM
granemore bt st michaels 1-12 to 0-7 .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Benny Barnaveld on May 07, 2010, 09:24:18 PM
ACL Division 2

St Peter's Lurgan      0-10     Ballyhegan   0-14

McGrane still reeling back the years, MOTM by a mile. Ballhegan's first win/points this season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 07, 2010, 09:44:35 PM
Pearse Og 0-10 Carrickcruppen 0-7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 07, 2010, 10:09:36 PM
Killeavy beat clans by 4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on May 07, 2010, 10:19:18 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 07, 2010, 10:09:36 PM
Killeavy beat clans by 4

stinkin
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 07, 2010, 10:43:53 PM
Cross beat Culloville 2-16 to 3-3.

Good competitive first half, 2-2 to 0-8 at the break
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on May 07, 2010, 10:55:30 PM
maghery beat whitecross in w`cross by 2 points 7up at half time and parked the bus 2nd half. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bobbiesoxer on May 07, 2010, 11:37:09 PM
cullyhanna beat mullabawn 1 10 to 1 02,gary mccooey carried off after 10min with a serious looking injury.will be a big loss to the side and the u21 team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on May 08, 2010, 12:30:25 AM
Tir na nOg beat Madden 0-11 to 0-9.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: clonmore on May 08, 2010, 12:46:00 AM
Quote from: torres on May 05, 2010, 07:25:35 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 05, 2010, 03:30:14 PM
How is it possible to select a team when three team amalgamate? Who manages the team and who calls the shots? It is bound to lead to some arguments
an amalgameted team from clonmore , annaghmore and collageland got to the u-16 county final in 2000 they were named st john,s . i think a kilcluney side reached the latter stages of the minor championship in the late 90,s featuring players from ballymacnab,clady and granemore . when teams cant field on their own they normally join up with their parish neighbours , still would,nt like to be a  selector though  :D
Hi.
Clonmore being one of the smallest clubs in the country have, perhaps always, had to amalgamate with neighbouring clubs to provide underage football. Annaghmore and Collegelands are neighbours who are in a similar position. St. Johns or Naomh Eoin and field at U-8 to U-21 depending on numbers.
I'm sure all teams/clubs face similar problems and similar benefits.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 08, 2010, 01:54:04 AM
Division 4: St Patrick's II 0-11 St Michael's Killean 1-7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 08, 2010, 03:08:13 PM
Harps beat Keady 2.13 to 1.8 in the league (which also doubled as the Sean Doran memorial cup game). 

Thanks to Keady who put on a fantastic spread in the Sportsman afterwards.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on May 08, 2010, 03:39:19 PM
Lads/Ladies, is it just me or is anyone else totally frustrated by the lack of interest our county board has in providing up to date results. Surely in this day in age, it couldn't be that difficult to setup a system that can automatically display results shortly after the game. Tyrone are able to provide this information on their website almost instantly on all matches. Don't think we really appreciated the service that Barry Coleman provided, as the county board maintain their 'couldn't care less' attitude towards clubs. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 08, 2010, 04:50:47 PM
Quote from: MOJO on May 08, 2010, 03:39:19 PM
Lads/Ladies, is it just me or is anyone else totally frustrated by the lack of interest our county board has in providing up to date results. Surely in this day in age, it couldn't be that difficult to setup a system that can automatically display results shortly after the game. Tyrone are able to provide this information on their website almost instantly on all matches. Don't think we really appreciated the service that Barry Coleman provided, as the county board maintain their 'couldn't care less' attitude towards clubs.
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This is an increasing problem in Armagh especially since the All Ireland win.  The majority of Clubs are now only important when it comes to getting money from them, The rest of the time anything that is organised is done so is a very going through the motions attitude. We are the laughing stock.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mhacadoir on May 08, 2010, 06:01:06 PM
i found all of last nights results quite quickly.

the under 21 championship does need updating mind
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on May 08, 2010, 07:05:58 PM
how and where? - i'd be interested to know.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on May 08, 2010, 07:13:43 PM
Quote from: MOJO on May 08, 2010, 07:05:58 PM
how and where? - i'd be interested to know.

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Home/Fixtures.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mhacadoir on May 08, 2010, 07:14:40 PM
Quote from: MOJO on May 08, 2010, 07:05:58 PM
how and where? - i'd be interested to know.


http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Home/Fixtures.aspx

when i go to each division theres a bit for results, they are in there.

EDIT: what AFS said
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on May 08, 2010, 08:26:30 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on May 08, 2010, 12:30:25 AM
Tir na nOg beat Madden 0-11 to 0-9.
heard your c-h- b  was sent off after hitting his marker and when shown a red card he went for the ref with him almost abandoning the game  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 08, 2010, 08:55:21 PM
Good win for the bridge last night. Defence was outstanding again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 09, 2010, 09:35:59 AM
Armagh Club Results for Friday 9 May 2010

Friday 7 May
ACL – Div. I
Culloville 2-3; Crossmaglen 2-15
Whitecross 0-14; Maghery 2-10
Pearse Og 0-10; Carrickcruppen 0-7
St Patrick's 1-10; Mullaghbawn 1-2
Sarsfields 0-8; Dromintee 0-15
Killeavy 1-12; Clan na Gael 0-11
ACL – Div. II
Keady 1-8; Armagh Harps 2-13
St Michael's 0-7; Granemore 1-12
Wolfe Tone 0-10; Silverbridge 1-8
St Peter's 0-11; Ballyhegan 0-14
Tir na nÓg 0-11; Madden 0-9
Clann Eireann 2-10; Ballymacnab 3-13
ACL – Div. III
Forkhill 0-18; An Port Mor 1-10
Tullysaran 0-11; Eire Og 1-8
St Paul's 1-3; Annaghmore 0-9
Belleek 1-7; Lissummon 2-9
Clonmore 0-3; Shane O'Neill's 2-16
ACL – Div. IV
Crossmaglen II v Derrynoose (Off)
Grange 3-20; Phelim Brady's 0-1
Clady 3-12; Mullabrack 1-7
Killean 1-7; St Patrick's II 0-11
Dorsey Emmett's 0-13; O'Hanlon's 0-7
Corrinshego 1-7; Killeavy II 1-13


http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/armagh-club-results-friday-9-may-2010-a-449/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: MOJO on May 09, 2010, 05:12:08 PM
Its unreal what a bit of bad publicity can do! Whoever is in charge of compiling/displaying results must have seen my post, and has been told to get it sorted. Good work though, lets hope we have the same speed and efficiency after each round of results.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on May 09, 2010, 08:22:38 PM
Sorry to burst you bubble MOJO, The results were posted on an unoffical site. Nothing to do with your post. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on May 09, 2010, 09:00:34 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 05, 2010, 06:32:01 PM
Just organise a few training sessions beforehand and I'd say it sorts itself out. Wouldn't have thought that side would have a huge pick altogether anyway.

couldnt be further from the truth, they had a panel of almost 40, 18/19 lads on the bench, how these teams were allowed to amalgimate makes a joke of the county board and a joke of the competition...the whole idea of giving boys the opourtunity to play U21 football is all a fraud!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on May 09, 2010, 09:04:20 PM
took in the mullabawn v ogs game. ogs won by 4. 1 11 to 0 10. ogs were missing alot of players. good result which puts them top
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 09, 2010, 11:48:14 PM
Quote from: centrefield on May 09, 2010, 09:00:34 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 05, 2010, 06:32:01 PM
Just organise a few training sessions beforehand and I'd say it sorts itself out. Wouldn't have thought that side would have a huge pick altogether anyway.

couldnt be further from the truth, they had a panel of almost 40, 18/19 lads on the bench, how these teams were allowed to amalgimate makes a joke of the county board and a joke of the competition...the whole idea of giving boys the opourtunity to play U21 football is all a fraud!
my thoughts exactly, some of the teams they are forming are too strong and are made up of 30+ players. This is a contradiction of the argument they use saying they want to give people football as there are 15 not getting any football. I realize there are teams that do need help fielding teams but theses almalgalmations are not the answer IMO
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on May 09, 2010, 11:53:55 PM
hear theres a bit of discontent in the Tones camp already poor turnouts at training, Manager not happy!!  any insights.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 10, 2010, 08:13:57 AM
Quote from: Benny Barnaveld on May 07, 2010, 09:24:18 PM
ACL Division 2

St Peter's Lurgan      0-10     Ballyhegan   0-14

McGrane still reeling back the years, MOTM by a mile. Ballhegan's first win/points this season

I think they're getting the points from the Keady game also.
McGrane has been in excellent form. In truth the scoreline flatters St Peters. The seemed to score from each attack they had.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 10, 2010, 08:41:36 AM
Ogs proving that their squad has improved greatly this year with two hard earned victories at the weekend. 9 regulars missing against mullabawn last nite r.clarke,a.mallon,p.duffy,a.duffy,g.barton,g.mccoy,d.mcmanus,r.clarke & c. clarke who made a cameo apperance after his long term injury. jp was immense in new full-back roll and d.d, rafferty and hughes proved their experience. good chance for fringe players to get much needed game time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 10, 2010, 08:44:18 AM
mojo & afs if yous had checked the OFFICAL armagh web site on saturday all fridays results and updated tables where there. >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 10, 2010, 09:56:27 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 10, 2010, 08:41:36 AM
Ogs proving that their squad has improved greatly this year with two hard earned victories at the weekend. 9 regulars missing against mullabawn last nite r.clarke,a.mallon,p.duffy,a.duffy,g.barton,g.mccoy,d.mcmanus,r.clarke & c. clarke who made a cameo apperance after his long term injury. jp was immense in new full-back roll and d.d, rafferty and hughes proved their experience. good chance for fringe players to get much needed game time.

Well if recent displays are anything to go by you can send your minor team to Lurgan on Friday night :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on May 10, 2010, 10:42:49 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 10, 2010, 08:44:18 AM
mojo & afs if yous had checked the OFFICAL armagh web site on saturday all fridays results and updated tables where there. >:(

Eh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on May 10, 2010, 06:44:34 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 09, 2010, 11:48:14 PM
Quote from: centrefield on May 09, 2010, 09:00:34 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 05, 2010, 06:32:01 PM
Just organise a few training sessions beforehand and I'd say it sorts itself out. Wouldn't have thought that side would have a huge pick altogether anyway.

couldnt be further from the truth, they had a panel of almost 40, 18/19 lads on the bench, how these teams were allowed to amalgimate makes a joke of the county board and a joke of the competition...the whole idea of giving boys the opourtunity to play U21 football is all a fraud!
my thoughts exactly, some of the teams they are forming are too strong and are made up of 30+ players. This is a contradiction of the argument they use saying they want to give people football as there are 15 not getting any football. I realize there are teams that do need help fielding teams but theses almalgalmations are not the answer IMO

exactly, atleast one if not two out of these three teams could have fielded a team in my opinion and to allow them to amalgamate is something of a joke however has the final word in such matters needs to take a hard look at themselves.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on May 10, 2010, 06:52:22 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 10, 2010, 09:56:27 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 10, 2010, 08:41:36 AM
Ogs proving that their squad has improved greatly this year with two hard earned victories at the weekend. 9 regulars missing against mullabawn last nite r.clarke,a.mallon,p.duffy,a.duffy,g.barton,g.mccoy,d.mcmanus,r.clarke & c. clarke who made a cameo apperance after his long term injury. jp was immense in new full-back roll and d.d, rafferty and hughes proved their experience. good chance for fringe players to get much needed game time.

Well if recent displays are anything to go by you can send your minor team to Lurgan on Friday night :-[
Good oul clanns playing down their chances!  :D
i remember this last year aswell. ended up 3rd in league with a c'ship semi was it? :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 10, 2010, 07:04:22 PM
Championship quarter final and third in the league (but also 2 points from relegation) First league win last year came against the ogs though maybe this is an omen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 11, 2010, 08:55:39 AM
we always like to help our good friends out ;) looks like once again the ogs will travel with an understrength squad to clans which should even it up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 11, 2010, 09:44:03 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 11, 2010, 08:55:39 AM
we always like to help our good friends out ;) looks like once again the ogs will travel with an understrength squad to clans which should even it up.

what are friends for wanderer... ;) i think you'll be shocked on fri nite when you see the standard we're at but as you say we were in big trouble last year too and a win against yourselves turned our season around and hopefully it happens again but i just can't see it this time around ???
Title: http://www.donegaldemocrat.ie/donegalsport/Donegal-hurlers-can39t-rob-the.628614
Post by: drici on May 11, 2010, 10:59:32 AM
Donegal hurlers can't rob the orchard as Armagh progress

Ulster Senior Hurling Championship
Donegal 1-12 Armagh 3-23

Published Date: 11 May 2010
By Alan Foley

Donegal hurlers bowed out of the Ulster Hurling Championship with a heavy defeat to Armagh in O'Donnell Pak on Saturday.
Although Andrew Wallace's side certainly didn't hold back in the Letterkenny sunshine, the intention for the season was always the Lory Meagher Cup, which throws in on June 6 when Longford provide the opposition. Saturday's loss doesn't really change that in any way, although aspects of the performance might.

Justin McGhee was given a second yellow before half-time and Donegal were forced to continue with only 14 men.

Had they had 15 available, then Armagh would probably have been too steep a mountain to climb, but being a man light for so made the task nigh on impossible.
Donegal made a fist of it for a spell after the break, before Colm Breathnach was also cautioned twice and he hit the showers on 63 minutes.

Thirteen was certainly unlucky for Donegal, who were already without Joe Boyle, sent off in Sligo and suspended, Aidan Begley, who was on a pre-arranged holiday, as well as Niall Campbell with a broken arm and Jamsie Donnelly.

When Donegal collided with Armagh in last year's championship, they led at one stage by six points before being on the receiving end of a 15-point loss, 3-24 to 2-12.

And during that fixture 12 months ago, Paul Breen put Donegal's hopes of a run in the Ulster championship to the sword with a starring role and a personal total of 1-10.

Yesterday in the Letterkenny sunshine, he had a similarly prosperous afternoon and by the end of the 70 minutes, his till reading stated a personal contribution of eight points, while Rory Gaffney posted a goal and five.

For Donegal, Kevin Campbell was the most profitable character in front of goal as the Setanta clubman chipped in with a goal and eight points, all from frees.

Armagh's start was the type of thing that would quash outsiders' ambitions before they ever got racing as Brian McNaughton scored the opening goal, taking down Paul McCormack's pass and getting the better of Donegal's returning goalkeeper Paul O'Brien, inside of two minutes.


Donegal's response was, though, commendable and they battled back to
edge into a one-point lead with Ciaran Mathewson and Danny Cullen
adding to Campbell's two frees.

Armagh soon began to reassert themselves and with the likes of Barry Breen, Fiachra Bradley, Rory Gaffney, Paul McCormack and McNaughton helping Paul Breen out in the scoring stakes.

When Justin McGhee made the lonely walk eight minutes before the break, the visitors were already 1-9 to 0-6 up, so in retrospect Donegal did commendably well not to let the roof fall in on them until the final stages.

Armagh, it must be noted, did work their bench quite early.
Donegal began to second half 1-14 to 0-7 down and staring down the barrel, especially so when Gaffney popped over a couple of well taken points. Wallace can take limited heart from the way in which his troops set about their daunting task.

Lee Henderson and Campbell's scores almost went unnoticed, but when the latter grabbed a goal on 56 minutes, there was a little more fire in Donegal's breath as an element of edginess set into Armagh's play, 1-19 to 1-12 up with margins lowering.

Campbell had seen a first half free on goal blocked on the line, but the second time, although his connection was not as clean and crisp, the sliotar scuttled low into the bottom corner.

O'Brien in the Donegal goals did excellently to prevent a Ger Enright goal, with the Burt netminder touching the stinging shot and the concession of only a point. The, Armagh's full-forward McNaughton totally fluffed an opportunity right in front of goal and the ball trickled wide of the mark.

However, with seven minutes to go, Gaffney, who had certainly been Armagh's best player in the second half, was played into space and he rifled home to give his side a 2-21 to 1-12 lead.

Moments later, Breathnach was dismissed for second yellow, leaving Donegal with only 13 and no chance of a comeback.

Enright then put the cheery on top of the cake in the last minute with a third Armagh goal as Donegal's defensive numbers were just too thin on the ground.

Wallace kept his panel on the pitch for some 20 minutes afterwards, stressing the importance of what the Lory Meager might bring.

Donegal: Paul O'Brien; Mark Patton, Colm Breathnach, Peter Horan; Paddy Hannigan, Justin McGhee, Barry Friel; Ardal McDermott, Kevin Campbell (1-8, 1-8f); Michael McGhee, Danny Cullen (0-1), Lee Henderson (0-1); Michael McCann, Eugene Organ, Ciaran Mathewson (0-2). Enda McDermott for Organ (34); Stephen Boyle for M McGhee (54).

Armagh: Joseph Burke; Brian Mallon, Eugene McDonnell, Barry Breen (0-3); Barry McCormack, Nathan Curry, Philip Kirk; Francie McMullan, Cathal Carvill; Ryan Gaffney (1-4), Ger Enright (1-1), Paul Breen (0-8, 6f); Fiachra Bradley (0-1), Brian McNaughton (1-2), Paul McCormack (0-4, 1f). Subs: Kieran McKernan and Barney McCann and for McDonnell and Bradley (43); Donal Carvill for Mallon (49); Paul Gaffney for Kirk (52); Michael Lennon for P Breen (55).

Referee: Garrett Duffy (Antrim).

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 11, 2010, 03:27:52 PM
well done cuchulainn no fall with the county hurlers from you?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 11, 2010, 04:46:24 PM
what happened with the County Hurling squad and Cuchulainn players leaving
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on May 11, 2010, 07:08:11 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on May 11, 2010, 04:46:24 PM
what happened with the County Hurling squad and Cuchulainn players leaving

Apparently, it's just a big 'coincidence' that they all decided to take a break from the county team at the same time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 11, 2010, 07:10:47 PM
Armagh Club Fixtures for w/e Friday 14 May 2010

Wednesday 12 May
All-County 'B' League
Section A (7.30)
Maghery v Clann Eireann (Mickey Leonard)
St Paul's v Eire Og (Keith Smith)
Clan na Gael v Tir na nÓg (Barney Henry)
Sarsfields v Wolfe Tone (Gary Smith)
Section B (7.30)
Grange v An Port Mor (Tony O'Hare)
Armagh Harps v Tullysaran (Kevin Gallogly)
Collegeland v Ballyhegan (Noel Martin)
Annaghmore v Pearse Og (Damian McConville)
Section C (7.30)
Keady v Ballymacnab (Paddy Duffy)
Whitecross v Granemore (Ronan Quigley)
Middletown v St Michael's (Kevin Murtagh)
Section D (7.30)
Dromintee v Culloville (Stephen McKinley)
St Patrick's v Belleek (Jim Lynch)
Mullaghbawn v Silverbridge (Oliver Hearty)
Crossmaglen v Carrickcruppen (Joe Murtagh)

Thursday 13 May
ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Ballyhegan v Silverbridge (Joe Murtagh)
Armagh Harps v St Peter's (Jim Burns)

Friday 14 May
ACL – Div. I (7.30)
Dromintee v Maghery (Seamus O'Neill)
Mullaghbawn v Sarsfields (Vincent O'Neill)
Carrickcruppen v St Patrick's (Keith Smith)
Whitecross v Culloville (Noel Martin)
Crossmaglen v Killeavy (Patrick Duffy)
Clan na Gael v Pearse Og (Gary Smith)
ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Ballymacnab v Keady (Paudie Hughes)
Tir na nÓg v Clann Eireann (Barney Henry)
St Michael's v Wolfe Tone (Jim Lynch)
Granemore v Madden (Rory Robinson)
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
St Paul's v An Port Mor (Paul Boylan)
Shane O'Neill's v Forkhill (Dessie McDonnell)
Belleek v Clonmore (Raymond Watters)
Annaghmore v Tullysaran (Mickey Leonard)
Eire Og v Middletown (Damian McConville)
Collegeland v Lissummon (Ger Devlin)
ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Grange v Dorsey Emmett's (Eamon Nugent)
O'Hanlon's v Killean (Kevin McNeice)
St Patrick's II v Clady (Kevin Murtagh)
Derrynoose v Phelim Brady's (Tony O'Hare)
Killeavy II v Crossmaglen II (Stephen Murray)
Mullabrack v Corrinshego (Jim Slevin)

http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/armagh-club-fixtures-w-e-friday-14-may-2010-a-452/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hurlingspeed on May 11, 2010, 07:19:36 PM
No fall out with cuchulainn boys and county.  They were never part of squad in 2010!!  Couple of lads including Declan Coulter wanted to throw their lot in with Harps this yr after good run in c'ship in 2009 while couple more weren't making any impression so decided to just play club.  This has been state of play since January but when Irish News decided to pay lip service to the Ulster Hurling Championship they called Declan Coulter to talk about Armagh.  On hearing that he wasn't playing it sounded better to write about a fall out with the Cuchulainn lads and the county as if they walked out the week of the game, rather than just say he was playing football this year.  Load of tripe and couple of other hacks have just picked up on this and run with it.  Anyone who knows anything about hurling knows there was no Cuchulainns on county squad this year....there was no fall out or walkout.
Title: Clonmore pitch offical opening - Armagh v Galway 23rd May 2010
Post by: clonmore on May 11, 2010, 10:08:58 PM
Kernan's Tribe to Face The Orchard

Armagh club, Clonmore Robert Emmets have pulled off a major coup for the opening of their new building and pitch development on Sunday 23rd May.

Former Armagh boss Joe Kernan will bring the Galway senior team to face his native county for the occasion. "We're absolutely delighted to have secured Galway and Armagh for what will be one of the biggest days in the Clubs history," said Clonmore Chairman Dominic Molloy. 'To be honest when we contacted both camps they had no hesitation in seizing the opportunity to be part of the celebration, and were more than helpful.

The big day for one of the smallest clubs in the country will bring a host of dignitaries for the occasion. GAA President Christy Cooney will attend and will perform the official opening duties, newly elected Ulster President, Aogan Farrell, Ladies GAA President Pat Quill and Armagh County Chairman Paul Duggan will also be in attendance.

"The Club feel really honoured that so many of the GAA top brass have agreed to take time out of very busy schedules to come along and support us. Who better to open your facilities than the President of the Association," said Mr Molloy. "It took a fair bit of planning and work to set a date that suited everyone given the hectic diary of Christy Cooney. We also had to wait until Championship dates were fixed before we could look at possible contenders for an inter county challenge game. Obviously Armagh as the home side was a priority and Paddy O'Rourke said he would help us out not long after he was appointed Armagh manager, Big Joe was thrilled when we approached him about the possibilities of bringing a Galway side to face his native OrchardCounty." Clonmore will have an additional reason to proudly welcome the Armagh side in that one of their own – Brendan Donaghy, who was hugely influential in Armagh's successful National League campaign recently will lead the team to face Galway.

The day itself will see the club open a new building incorporating changing rooms, showers and toilets with a meeting room and gym facilities upstairs. "It may be small by some standards but we're a small club with limited resources and we didn't want something impractical or leaving us with a huge debt from building and costly to maintain. Having come from a situation of never having had proper facilities we're rightly proud of what we now have in place. At our old pitch beside the river Blackwater teams togged out in their cars, since we moved up to the new site a few years ago we have used old temporary huts which while they served a purpose, had no showers and are now well past their sell by date.

The ribbon will also be cut on the club's pitch which is widely regarded as one of the best surfaces in the country.

"We have been using the pitch for a number of years now but have never officially opened it largely due to the absence of changing facilities, on the 23rd May we'll put that one to bed.

We've a fantastic club and community here in Clonmore and everyone has really got their shoulder behind the wheel to make sure we had the proper facility, everyone lending their talents and expertise across various fields from manual labour to fund-raising to helping with running the club and coaching etc." We're calling on support from the GAA fraternity across the country, and it will be a great occasion, with some of the best football talent on the field, and sideline.

Admission to the game is £5 with family concessions.

www.clonmore.com
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 12, 2010, 09:30:47 AM
hurlingspeed " coulter to concentrate on harps after good run in last years championship " dont think it will long until he,s back with the hurlers. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hound of ulster on May 12, 2010, 01:48:36 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 12, 2010, 09:30:47 AM
hurlingspeed " coulter to concentrate on harps after good run in last years championship " dont think it will long until he,s back with the hurlers. ;)
a county title has went to someboys heads ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 12, 2010, 02:56:00 PM
hound do you mean harps minors as they have flaunted the papers regularily and it must have went to their heads, at least the senior champs have remained discreet and concentrated on the season ahead.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gotthereb4u on May 12, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 12, 2010, 02:56:00 PM
hound do you mean harps minors as they have flaunted the papers regularily and it must have went to their heads, at least the senior champs have remained discreet and concentrated on the season ahead.  ::)

Is that why they done 2 in a row? mustnt have went to their heads that much!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 12, 2010, 09:30:33 PM
Quote from: gotthereb4u on May 12, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 12, 2010, 02:56:00 PM
hound do you mean harps minors as they have flaunted the papers regularily and it must have went to their heads, at least the senior champs have remained discreet and concentrated on the season ahead.  ::)

Is that why they done 2 in a row? mustnt have went to their heads that much!!

Two in a row?!!! They deserve another civic reception from the Mayor!! Damn council cutting back on spending!!! Can't believe they only got one!!  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 13, 2010, 08:56:48 AM
2 in a row , i could show you 4 in a row winners who thought they had it made and didn't play senior football. look back at the previous harps 2 in a row and u can see that a lot of these players failed to fulfill their potential and didn't play senior football. as the ogs know minor success doesn't guarantee senior success. it takes proper dedication, good footballers, proper committee backing , good management and no in club factions and power struggles.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on May 13, 2010, 10:03:04 AM
Orchard TV brings you plenty of interviews looking ahead to the Armagh v Derry games in both USFC and UMFC

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--Ronan-Clarke-interview-ahead-of-USFC-opener.aspx

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--Aaron-Kernan---Brendan-Donaghy-Interviews.aspx

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--Paddy-O-Rourke---Steven-McDonnell-Interview.aspx

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--Ryan-Henderson---Chairle-Vernon-Interviews.aspx

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--Paul-McShane-looks-ahead-to-UMFC.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on May 13, 2010, 09:45:50 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 13, 2010, 08:56:48 AM
2 in a row , i could show you 4 in a row winners who thought they had it made and didn't play senior football. look back at the previous harps 2 in a row and u can see that a lot of these players failed to fulfill their potential and didn't play senior football. as the ogs know minor success doesn't guarantee senior success. it takes proper dedication, good footballers, proper committee backing , good management and no in club factions and power struggles.

Go on I dare you to show me 4 in a row Minor winners, go on, also, the Ogs fully deserved their championship, a lot of hard work has went in over the last few years, and as a friend of many of the team I was pleased for them, it was just a pity it was us they beat in the final. But I do remember when the dedication from the ogs was not the same as it is now and it aint all that long ago, stop trying to rile the Harps with this ''we are whiter than white shite while you guys drink your talent away''. Maybe we just aren't at that stage yet, it might come it might not but there are a lot of Harps men trying their best to get the optimum out of these lads and it will be all the more sweeter if the they do pull out a championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 13, 2010, 09:51:29 PM
resullts 2night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Na Clairsigh on May 13, 2010, 09:55:20 PM
Harps 1-13 St Peters 0-03 i think was the final score
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on May 13, 2010, 10:36:54 PM
Ballyhegan 0.8 Silverbridge 15
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Passing_Interest on May 13, 2010, 10:44:06 PM
Jaysus Wanderer you really do get yourself into some pointless wee tiffs.

I refer you back to posting #1807 from January past on the Armagh Harps thread.

By all means enjoy the wonderful feeling of being Champions. Relish the thoroughfully well deserved and hard earned title of Club of the Year. By all means rejoice at the achievements of your fine club.
But remember magnanimity in victory. Pride often comes before a fall.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on May 14, 2010, 12:43:33 AM
Quote from: Passing_Interest on May 13, 2010, 10:44:06 PM
Jaysus Wanderer you really do get yourself into some pointless wee tiffs.

I refer you back to posting #1807 from January past on the Armagh Harps thread.

By all means enjoy the wonderful feeling of being Champions. Relish the thoroughfully well deserved and hard earned title of Club of the Year. By all means rejoice at the achievements of your fine club.
But remember magnanimity in victory. Pride often comes before a fall.

its been a long fall since '91
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Passing_Interest on May 14, 2010, 12:42:00 PM
It has indeed. Very long and painful as you are aware.
But Pearse Og I think you have missed the point in what I'm trying to say about how you can come across all wrong on a forum like this
...or else I've stumbled into a silly little Ogs v Harps personality spat with my eyes closed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 14, 2010, 02:31:32 PM
passing, it only keeps the local rivalry talking these friendly little spats. i have great respect for a lot of the harps players and their continued efforts. its just that some harps people on the thread start little digs directly or indirectly on a regular basis so some one has to reply. ps spirit is a good lad and he knows the ogs lads and the heart ache in trying to eventually win the senior championship. in relation to the 4 in a row i was referring to the ogs and the drop outs from those teams. there has been a similar problem and maybe greater with the harps in 02/03. just pointing out that it is difficult to retain the players as they sometimes think they have it all achieved when winning minor titles. hurry up and return to the 1st division as we need the derby's and revenue.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 14, 2010, 09:34:33 PM
Ballymacnab 1 -11
Keady 1 - 7

poor match, very scrappy, 2 very soft goals
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 14, 2010, 09:48:16 PM
Clans 1-08 ogs 0-7 a weakened ogs team but a great all round performance from a young clans team. Well done lads first two points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 14, 2010, 10:02:45 PM
Cross Division 1 beat killeavy by 2 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on May 14, 2010, 10:33:32 PM
took in the ogs and clans game. awful game to watch to be honest with clans deserving their win. ogs were missing nearly their full team but that's not taking away from the clans victory as they battled hard and showed good spirit. that win will get them on their way. any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on May 14, 2010, 10:50:54 PM
Maghery beat Dromintee by 3 points, not sure of scoreline.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on May 14, 2010, 11:07:08 PM
maGHERY 1-12 D`TEE 2-6 D`TEE GOT PEN IN INJURY TIME COMFORTABLE WIN FOR MAGHERY SARSFIELDS BT CRUPPEN
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rattle-the-net on May 14, 2010, 11:13:37 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on May 14, 2010, 11:07:08 PM
maGHERY 1-12 D`TEE 2-6 D`TEE GOT PEN IN INJURY TIME COMFORTABLE WIN FOR MAGHERY SARSFIELDS BT CRUPPEN

Cruppen were playing St Pats! Cruppen won by 1 or 2 i think?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on May 14, 2010, 11:19:03 PM
Quote from: rattle-the-net on May 14, 2010, 11:13:37 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on May 14, 2010, 11:07:08 PM
maGHERY 1-12 D`TEE 2-6 D`TEE GOT PEN IN INJURY TIME COMFORTABLE WIN FOR MAGHERY SARSFIELDS BT CRUPPEN

Cruppen were playing St Pats! Cruppen won by 1 or 2 i think?
sorry yes s`fields bt m`bawn by 2 all results now up on armagh gaa website
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on May 14, 2010, 11:41:07 PM
madden bt granemore 1 13 - 1 10 .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 15, 2010, 11:06:59 AM
Clans game was actually a 4 point hammering. Ogs missed one or two goal chances but Clans missed what would have won 20 games! Dont buy too much into the Ogs absentees as they still had a strong team and Clans were msiing 4 or 5 of their stronger players too. Considering this particular Clans teams history only dates back till the start of last season its the best Ive seen them play. Keep it up lads!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 15, 2010, 11:19:14 AM
It was a disappointing performance by the Ogs and after the first 15 mins it never looked like they were going to win it.  Maybe this will kick start the Clans season again like last year.

We can't complain about the players missing, every team will be missing players at different stages of the league.  The Clans deserved their win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 15, 2010, 11:24:31 AM
st michaels 0-09 wolfe tone 0-14 :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on May 15, 2010, 11:30:36 AM
Quote from: torres on May 14, 2010, 11:41:07 PM
madden bt granemore 1 13 - 1 10 .

big result for Madden, Div 2 not as easy as anticipated, plenty of landmines floating
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Worker on May 15, 2010, 11:52:29 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on May 15, 2010, 11:24:31 AM
st michaels 0-09 wolfe tone 0-14 :)

any chance of a match report charles?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hillbilly on May 15, 2010, 12:35:25 PM
Not much about the DERRY game,maybe you know its going to be the back door for armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 15, 2010, 12:53:52 PM
Quote from: Hillbilly on May 15, 2010, 12:35:25 PM
Not much about the DERRY game,maybe you know its going to be the back door for armagh

Take your face for a sh1te saan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 15, 2010, 01:51:04 PM
Nailed on draw!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 15, 2010, 04:08:24 PM
Fancy Derry by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on May 15, 2010, 05:42:47 PM
any word on d`tee full back he went off at start of match which looked like cruciate ligament injury benny mccardle i think it was hope its not as bad as it looked and hope he is back playing soon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 15, 2010, 07:13:51 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 15, 2010, 12:53:52 PM
Quote from: Hillbilly on May 15, 2010, 12:35:25 PM
Not much about the DERRY game,maybe you know its going to be the back door for armagh

Take your face for a sh1te saan

or maybe this boy should go on the ARMAGH VS DERRY THREAD where everone is talking about it. This one's for Armagh CLUB football and hurling.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ulick on May 15, 2010, 08:29:17 PM
Well done Clan na Gael, I wasn't expecting that. I suppose Feet is well langered at this stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gimmearunout on May 15, 2010, 09:10:42 PM
Think Derry are there for the takin, their defense hasnt been settled throughout the league and take the bradleys out of it they have too many players off form. Stevie to hit the onion bag for the boys. Only thing that would worry me is the big names on their sub bench if they were to get a run out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 17, 2010, 08:59:02 AM
a good wake up call for the ogs despite missing 10 starting players, they just ran out of steam it looked like the 2 games last weekend affected the players. clans fully deservered their win but in all honesty i think they will struggle big time to survive as they are very weak in a lot of areas and their shooting is poor. as for the ogs they need to put probually their worst display ever behind them and focus for the championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 17, 2010, 09:52:16 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 17, 2010, 08:59:02 AM
a good wake up call for the ogs despite missing 10 starting players, they just ran out of steam it looked like the 2 games last weekend affected the players. clans fully deservered their win but in all honesty i think they will struggle big time to survive as they are very weak in a lot of areas and their shooting is poor. as for the ogs they need to put probually their worst display ever behind them and focus for the championship.

It must have been a bitter pill for you to swallow...your worst performance ever???even worse than in Davitt Park last year??? It says a lot about your squad if you lot were tired for playing 2 games the week before (imagine having to do that, the county board must have it in for the Og's) It's a good thing the Clans shooting was poor alright or you lot could have been beat by 10pts instead of 4...lol ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 17, 2010, 10:20:45 AM
def wors than davitt park last year. i told you we would help yous out but ur in for a tanking in armagh. lets be honest ogs should have been 2 or 3 goals to the good in the first half except for final passes and one on one chances with the keeper. dont forget one result doesnt make a season or destroy it. ;) ur still goin to have a relegation battle :-[ enjoy the moment. ps what about austin will he be back for armagh shortly?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 17, 2010, 11:31:50 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 17, 2010, 10:20:45 AM
def wors than davitt park last year. i told you we would help yous out but ur in for a tanking in armagh. lets be honest ogs should have been 2 or 3 goals to the good in the first half except for final passes and one on one chances with the keeper. dont forget one result doesnt make a season or destroy it. ;) ur still goin to have a relegation battle :-[ enjoy the moment. ps what about austin will he be back for armagh shortly?

Well you lot did have a few goal chances but if you can't score them don't be blaming me for that, as for getting a tanking up in armagh... ::) can't wait saan. We may be involved in a relegation battle alright...time will tell but i believe we have the players to get ourselves out of it, remember we had 5 players missing on Fri nite also ;)

As for Austin he'll be out for at least another 6-8 weeks (if he's any sense). He's our only real injury at the minute but hopefully these other players will be avialable to us soon (we've players away getting married and stupid sh1t like that...lol)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 17, 2010, 12:47:52 PM
Why didnt yous tank the Clans in Armagh last year then after being equally as convincingly beaten in Davitt last year??

Also if I remember correctly yous had as near to a full team out as possible and it took a late goal (Which came from a clans mistake) to secure the win. Typical trash talk from a team that got the absolute run around. Goal chances aside (2 of which were well defended so cant be described as missed chances!) - yous were beaten in every area of the pitch and illdecide is being generous when he says 10 points - if Clans had taken half their missed chances it could have been 15+!! Saan!!

I do however disagree with both of yous - I dont think les bleus will be involved in a relegation battle this year providing they can get 2 or 3 quick wins. If they do that I fully expect them to be in the top 5 most of ther year. There are several teams much worse than the Clans and remember also that at least 12 of the Clans lads are playing in the U21 squad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hound of ulster on May 17, 2010, 01:15:14 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 17, 2010, 08:59:02 AM
a good wake up call for the ogs despite missing 10 starting players, they just ran out of steam it looked like the 2 games last weekend affected the players. clans fully deservered their win but in all honesty i think they will struggle big time to survive as they are very weak in a lot of areas and their shooting is poor. as for the ogs they need to put probually their worst display ever behind them and focus for the championship.
wanderer are you crying about missing players?thought you had a squad big enough to get by!need to look at training if their tired from couple games ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 17, 2010, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 17, 2010, 12:47:52 PM
Why didnt yous tank the Clans in Armagh last year then after being equally as convincingly beaten in Davitt last year??

Also if I remember correctly yous had as near to a full team out as possible and it took a late goal (Which came from a clans mistake) to secure the win. Typical trash talk from a team that got the absolute run around. Goal chances aside (2 of which were well defended so cant be described as missed chances!) - yous were beaten in every area of the pitch and illdecide is being generous when he says 10 points - if Clans had taken half their missed chances it could have been 15+!! Saan!!

I do however disagree with both of yous - I dont think les bleus will be involved in a relegation battle this year providing they can get 2 or 3 quick wins. If they do that I fully expect them to be in the top 5 most of ther year. There are several teams much worse than the Clans and remember also that at least 12 of the Clans lads are playing in the U21 squad.

We can have no complaints about the match on Friday night.  We were well beaten, simple as.  After the first 10-15 mins it was obvious that Clans were always gonna win it.

It's a game we'll just have to put behind us and move on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 17, 2010, 02:21:12 PM
Lads any team missing 10 players is going to struggle in any game. However as we have all stated Clans where value for the win and should have won by more. I am not really into the whole, we beat you, you beat us argument. What i do know is that every game is different and trying to predict the outcome of an og v clans game maybe 2 months down the line is impossible. Now they may destroy the clans or clans could beat them no one can say for sure. At the moment the clans have a very young and raw squad and them young lads played a very good game against the og's on friday night. This was an og's teams that had a lot of experience in the ranks (I also think 10 players missing was a bit of an exaggeration ) There were lads on that og's team that have been around there for years and for the clans to play so well on a neutral venue let's not forget was a great result. Sure the shooting was a little wayward at times but these things can all be worked on. If someone had said to me at the start of the year the only thing wrong with that team is their shooting i can tell you it wouldn't be long getting sorted. Our club have a lot of decent u-21's coming through and the experience they are getting at senior level is vital, wins like this can only further enhance their confidence. Now they may not win another match and folks will probably post this back to me but i will still stand by what i say. Personally i think they will have a tough season in division one but they are capable of beating Mullaghbawn,Sarsfields, Killeavy, Dromintee, Cullyhanna, Culloville, Maghery, whitecross and cruppen.  The Cross and Og's at full strength IMO are exceptions and are well ahead of the clans at the moment. So whilst they may struggle there are a lot of other teams in that mix aswell so a top 5 place isn't that outrageous as all other teams will take points from each other.

This year we have a team in transition, coupled with no home ground you tell me a team that wouldn't struggle?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 17, 2010, 03:45:53 PM
hound yous are always crying about missing players especially when u get beat in the 2nd division. dont worry we are happy to try  out new players and we wont be far away again this season when it really matters. hope u can keep in contention for promotion as all miss the local derbys but it will be touch and go with granemore and nab. win/ill take the favour graciously and we will see u later in the year ;) ps ogs had a lot of u21s playing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 17, 2010, 04:07:15 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 17, 2010, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 17, 2010, 12:47:52 PM
Why didnt yous tank the Clans in Armagh last year then after being equally as convincingly beaten in Davitt last year??

Also if I remember correctly yous had as near to a full team out as possible and it took a late goal (Which came from a clans mistake) to secure the win. Typical trash talk from a team that got the absolute run around. Goal chances aside (2 of which were well defended so cant be described as missed chances!) - yous were beaten in every area of the pitch and illdecide is being generous when he says 10 points - if Clans had taken half their missed chances it could have been 15+!! Saan!!

I do however disagree with both of yous - I dont think les bleus will be involved in a relegation battle this year providing they can get 2 or 3 quick wins. If they do that I fully expect them to be in the top 5 most of ther year. There are several teams much worse than the Clans and remember also that at least 12 of the Clans lads are playing in the U21 squad.

We can have no complaints about the match on Friday night.  We were well beaten, simple as.  After the first 10-15 mins it was obvious that Clans were always gonna win it.

It's a game we'll just have to put behind us and move on.


Whats got into you lad?? two reasonable and honest posts in a row! ;) ;) Fair play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hound of ulster on May 17, 2010, 04:53:35 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 17, 2010, 03:45:53 PM
hound yous are always crying about missing players especially when u get beat in the 2nd division. dont worry we are happy to try  out new players and we wont be far away again this season when it really matters. hope u can keep in contention for promotion as all miss the local derbys but it will be touch and go with granemore and nab. win/ill take the favour graciously and we will see u later in the year ;) ps ogs had a lot of u21s playing.
wanderer,im not crying at missing players we are happy trying out the youth, in game against keady only one player that started cty final last year started and like yourselves we have only lost the one game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on May 17, 2010, 05:52:04 PM
ffs lads why all this we had 10 missing ..and we had 5 players missing we had 5 21s playing well we had some u21s 2 holy fcuk thats school ground talk. every team in the co has players missing every game they play the whole year through injury,suspensions,co committments etc, so were all in the same boat. and the end of the day when the ball is threw in its 15 v 15 and may the best team win and when its over thats it take it and move on. ps. if a team misses goal chnces r kicks 8 wides they have only themselves to blame its all part of the game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 17, 2010, 09:29:54 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on May 17, 2010, 05:52:04 PM
ffs lads why all this we had 10 missing ..and we had 5 players missing we had 5 21s playing well we had some u21s 2 holy fcuk thats school ground talk. every team in the co has players missing every game they play the whole year through injury,suspensions,co committments etc, so were all in the same boat. and the end of the day when the ball is threw in its 15 v 15 and may the best team win and when its over thats it take it and move on. ps. if a team misses goal chnces r kicks 8 wides they have only themselves to blame its all part of the game

Correct 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 17, 2010, 09:54:19 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 17, 2010, 04:07:15 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 17, 2010, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 17, 2010, 12:47:52 PM
Why didnt yous tank the Clans in Armagh last year then after being equally as convincingly beaten in Davitt last year??

Also if I remember correctly yous had as near to a full team out as possible and it took a late goal (Which came from a clans mistake) to secure the win. Typical trash talk from a team that got the absolute run around. Goal chances aside (2 of which were well defended so cant be described as missed chances!) - yous were beaten in every area of the pitch and illdecide is being generous when he says 10 points - if Clans had taken half their missed chances it could have been 15+!! Saan!!

I do however disagree with both of yous - I dont think les bleus will be involved in a relegation battle this year providing they can get 2 or 3 quick wins. If they do that I fully expect them to be in the top 5 most of ther year. There are several teams much worse than the Clans and remember also that at least 12 of the Clans lads are playing in the U21 squad.

We can have no complaints about the match on Friday night.  We were well beaten, simple as.  After the first 10-15 mins it was obvious that Clans were always gonna win it.

It's a game we'll just have to put behind us and move on.


Whats got into you lad?? two reasonable and honest posts in a row! ;) ;) Fair play.

Thanks.  It must be the weather
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 18, 2010, 03:44:20 PM
Jasus my poker nights i run is only £20 in and roughly about 35-40 entrants to which we pay out £1000...sounds like better value to me ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Master Yoda on May 18, 2010, 03:57:31 PM
Who is the top club minor teams in Armagh this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on May 18, 2010, 04:05:48 PM
Quote from: Master Yoda on May 18, 2010, 03:57:31 PM
Who is the top club minor teams in Armagh this year?

Cross, Keady, Killeavy, Cullyhanna, St Peters seems to be the accepted wisdom.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 18, 2010, 04:41:43 PM
i didnt think cullyhanna was in the mix as a good minor team. ps watch this space when the cship starts for possible dark horses.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 19, 2010, 12:41:16 PM
Some good games on tonight in the U21 championship...i think i'll go down and watch Clans v Cross which should be a cracking game and i'd expect the clans to put it up to one of the favourites. Although Cross are massive favourites for the game there could be a we upset here tonight...

C'mon the Clans ;) ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 19, 2010, 02:34:53 PM
the real favourites by a mile are st. pats. do you have the other fixtures for tonite. think yous might sneak this one tnite ;) i,m gettin good at predictions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 19, 2010, 03:13:45 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 19, 2010, 02:34:53 PM
the real favourites by a mile are st. pats. do you have the other fixtures for tonite. think yous might sneak this one tnite ;) i,m gettin good at predictions.

I don't know if we're "favourites by a mile". Gary McCooey's injury is a huge set-back though certainly we've a good chance of making the later stages.

The minors wouldn't be expected to be amongst the favourites I wouldn't have thought.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 19, 2010, 04:45:11 PM
I would have thought the Harps to be among the favourites....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on May 19, 2010, 06:53:20 PM
sarsfields would be my tip as dark horses for minor championship lads they always stumble in the league but come c`ship they seem to find something extra.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 19, 2010, 08:18:18 PM
clans 10-6 up on cross at ht
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 19, 2010, 09:03:40 PM
Draw at FT Clans V Cross now into extra time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 19, 2010, 09:09:21 PM
Killeavey beat Harps by 2 with a late late goal according to text I got.  Not too impressesd with referee by the sounds of it - Gary Smith.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 19, 2010, 09:41:40 PM
After extra time cross beat Clans by 5-6. Clans will rue their chances  - they should have had the game dead and burried at half time in normal time! But they didnt.....the fight goes on......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 19, 2010, 10:01:25 PM
Clans 2-14 Cross 3-19 AET.

Jamie Clarke show. Hardly got the ball but when he did get it, caused some damage, must have scored 2-6 or 2-7. Real sickener for Clans, should have had a goal in the first ten mins when the ball came off both posts, think we hit the upright again in the second half.  Led for most of the game until Cross got back into it, and eventually took a one point lead, which was cancelled out with the last kick to get extra-time. Very exciting game and Clans really should have had it won in normal time only for a few lapses of concentration which let Cross back into it. Cross look likely to go on and win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on May 19, 2010, 10:30:07 PM
Who are the more well known names in that Cross side? J Clarke, who else? Are the McKeowns over age?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gotthereb4u on May 20, 2010, 12:01:49 AM
Probabaly the poorest refereeing display i've ever seen at Harps killeavy match. Actually couldn't believe it. Put me off football the carry-on he was at 2nite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 20, 2010, 12:30:52 AM
Get used to it the game has gone crazy. wait and see how many refs are busted before the year is out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on May 20, 2010, 01:14:11 AM
QuoteJamie Clarke show.

If Jamie Clarke had been fully fit for the county U-21 against Donegal, they could have won it and gone far, as Donegal reached the AI final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on May 20, 2010, 08:56:35 AM
Quote from: Wee Shea on May 19, 2010, 10:30:07 PM
Who are the more well known names in that Cross side? J Clarke, who else? Are the McKeowns over age?

Franny Hanratty and James Morgan were on the county U21 side this year, so I'd say they're to the forefront for them too. Paul McKeown is overage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 20, 2010, 09:32:06 AM
Quote from: gotthereb4u on May 20, 2010, 12:01:49 AM
Probabaly the poorest refereeing display i've ever seen at Harps killeavy match. Actually couldn't believe it. Put me off football the carry-on he was at 2nite


On that note then I think its important to commend the ref in the Clans v Cross game - he let a good game flow with only minor disruption. Best refereeing performance Ive seen in a while (To be honest that isnt hard in our county)

The only blot on his copy book is the yellow card he showed to Jamie Clarke in the first half for blatantly kicking a fellow to the ground off the ball under his nose!

Only hes on the County senior team he would have seen red - which incidently would have totally guaranteed Clans a 15 point win!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 20, 2010, 09:33:27 AM
There was a cub playing for Cross last night wearing no15 with blond hair and he seems like a good we player, I'd have bet money on it that he was the lad that came on sub for Armagh minors on sunday with about 5 mins to go...could someone confirm (as me and Jimmy smyth we having this dispute/discussion last night at the game)

On the game itself the Clans dominated the first half and should have been 10 up at half time, the first 5-10 mins of the second half the Clans held their own and then that was it...all Cross from then on, even when the game went to Extra Time the Cross totally dominated the game. If Clans had have taken their chances in the first half it wouldn't have went to extra time but they didn't and they're out. Good luck to the Cross in the next round.

As for refereeing it was one of the worst displays I've ever seen and i reckon he gave the clans 70% of the decisions, there were times some of the Cross lads were fouled and it was so obvious and blatant that a blind man could have seen it (pull of a jersey and/or high tackle etc) and how he didn't give the Cross free kicks and yellow cards to clans men was unbelievable ??? There were a few missed for the clans too but for me he gave the Cross very little last night and was shocking poor
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mhacadoir on May 20, 2010, 09:43:17 AM
Middletown beat Keady 3-10 to 1-5. They play Wolfe Tones in the Q/F next
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 20, 2010, 09:47:37 AM
Quote from: illdecide on May 20, 2010, 09:33:27 AM
There was a cub playing for Cross last night wearing no15 with blond hair and he seems like a good we player, I'd have bet money on it that he was the lad that came on sub for Armagh minors on sunday with about 5 mins to go...could someone confirm (as me and Jimmy smyth we having this dispute/discussion last night at the game)

On the game itself the Clans dominated the first half and should have been 10 up at half time, the first 5-10 mins of the second half the Clans held their own and then that was it...all Cross from then on, even when the game went to Extra Time the Cross totally dominated the game. If Clans had have taken their chances in the first half it wouldn't have went to extra time but they didn't and they're out. Good luck to the Cross in the next round.

As for refereeing it was one of the worst displays I've ever seen and i reckon he gave the clans 70% of the decisions, there were times some of the Cross lads were fouled and it was so obvious and blatant that a blind man could have seen it (pull of a jersey and/or high tackle etc) and how he didn't give the Cross free kicks and yellow cards to clans men was unbelievable ??? There were a few missed for the clans too but for me he gave the Cross very little last night and was shocking poor

Refreshing to see someone acknowledge that the ref was on their side!!  Eiregotran basically reiterated what you said over on the Armagh site. 

Obviously Jamie seemed to be the stand out player but how did Franny play.  He is a serious talent if he keeps his head.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 20, 2010, 10:04:07 AM
Jamie Clarke did nothing for the first 2/3 of the game but what he did the rest of the time was the reason Cross won the game. Franny was your best player I thought he was in it from the start and when Clans took their foot off the pedal he capitalised big time and began to dominate allowing Jmaie to florish.

Obviously I totally disagree with illdecide on the referee. I know the incident that is prompting this when Jamie had the shirt pulled off him and nothing given (I was shocked at it too) but this was one incident in many. For a start it should have been impossible for anyone to pull his shirt unless they were doing it on the sideline!

On the whole he let the game flow and the incidents that are being talked about occured for both teams!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 20, 2010, 10:50:09 AM
JAMIE DID NOTHIN BUT SCORED 2/6. dont worry the best team left is st. pats. as u said to me earlier if you dont take ur chances u dont win. ps i heard the ref was good in ur game who was he?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on May 20, 2010, 10:56:32 AM
good win for st pats last nite over Corrahill Blues,
think final score was 4-13 to 0-8
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 20, 2010, 10:58:09 AM
by the way ill ur mathematics isnt up to scratch. beat by 5/6.  3/19 to 2/14 who wer clans best players. harps would be that strong this year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 20, 2010, 11:18:39 AM
I said he did nothing for 2/3 then ran the show! Think the refs name was Devlin. And your right if you dont take your chances you dont win - im not complaining im just saying it was very unlucky.

However im very heartened by the performance of several of the players. At the end of the day its not the end of the world if you dont win the U21 championship (Easily the least prioritized competition) I saw enough of some players last night to suggest a distinguished senior career and that my friends is what it is all about!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 20, 2010, 11:20:05 AM
By the way Im nealry certain that score is wrong - I believe there was 3 in it then clarke scored a goal leaving it cross by 6.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 20, 2010, 12:50:11 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 20, 2010, 11:20:05 AM
By the way Im nealry certain that score is wrong - I believe there was 3 in it then clarke scored a goal leaving it cross by 6.

There was 8 in saan...Cross scored 1-02 in the last minute of extra time...But as you say i seen enough last night too to say that we can get a good few of them lads into senior and be good enough to keep us in the top level. the clans full back line are all still minor and i'd be fairly certain majority of that team have another few years at U21 level
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ulick on May 20, 2010, 03:35:06 PM
Providing they survive unscathed after discovering the wine.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on May 20, 2010, 09:28:03 PM
On the game last night. Yes the clans should have been well in front at half time and yes they completely quit after scoring their second goal and going seven points up. I also thought the cross were robbed by the ref with a number of obvious fouls not being called.

The clans had a number of very good performance all over the pitch but seemed to be dead on their feet with ten or so mins left. Only looked to be one winner. There is a ruthlessness that our teams need to learn

Jamie Clarke was excellent and rarely missed a kick. Very hard to mark. I cannot comment on the incident where he got a yellow as I didn't see what happened. Others around me said he should have went and the ref bottled it...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on May 21, 2010, 10:30:51 AM
Best wishes to Clonmore gaa club on sunday with the offical opening of their new facilities. Its great credit to them coming from such a small catchment area to have continued the progress. Well done to Kevin and all the members of the club and lets hope they get a great turnout from all armagh people. ps hope some of u clans men go the short distance to offer ur support.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 21, 2010, 10:59:03 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 21, 2010, 10:30:51 AM
Best wishes to Clonmore gaa club on sunday with the offical opening of their new facilities. Its great credit to them coming from such a small catchment area to have continued the progress. Well done to Kevin and all the members of the club and lets hope they get a great turnout from all armagh people. ps hope some of u clans men go the short distance to offer ur support.

We play Cruppin on sunday (re-fixture from the game Austin broke the jaw) although if the times suit i could be persuaded to go
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 21, 2010, 12:06:19 PM
Lads just to remind you that i run a poker night once a month and next Friday night is that time of the month again (fri 28th May). It's £20 in with an option of one re-buy/top up for £10. We are getting in and around 40 to the poker, roughly 50% of that crowd are not clan na gael men. We have a few lads from Dromintee who attend and another few from other clubs around the county. We pay out all the money lifted (usually around £1000) and have started to have food ready for the break, it's played on proper poker tables with good cards (at £7.50 a deck they should be) as well as a digital timer on the wall telling you what the blinds are and when they go up and what they're going up to.

All in all it's run well with the best of gear and big money up for grabs, everyone is welcome and if you're genuinely interested drop me a PM and I'll give you more details...the more that turns up the more is paid out
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on May 21, 2010, 08:55:22 PM
tir na nog bt granemore by 6/7 pts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 21, 2010, 09:17:14 PM
Cross 3-11 St Pat's 1-10

The scoreline is a poor reflection of how even the match was in general play. We were only 2 points behind with 5 minutes to go but Cross werre clinical and got 1-3 in 3 or 4 minutes to win the match. They were just that little bit more clinical in front of goal through the match. Good performance from St Pat's though - arguably our best of the year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on May 21, 2010, 09:55:43 PM
Clans beat Sarsfields by about six. Clans got late goal and a point.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on May 21, 2010, 10:58:08 PM
maghery drew away at cruppen 0-15 1-12 maghery always in the lead until final few mins when cruppen got 1-2 without reply to go 2 in front with 2 mins left but then scored 3points and missed a 1 on 1 with gaoly saving and cruppen scored a 45 last kick to draw level. all in all a fair enough result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 21, 2010, 11:09:51 PM
tones beat madden 2-11 0-15
ballymcnab beat st peters
newtown beat ballyhegan
tirnanog beat granemore
harps beat silverbridge
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on May 21, 2010, 11:23:38 PM
cross beat st pats
clans bt s`fields
w`cross bt killeavy
maghery drew with cruppen
cullaville bt ogs ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 22, 2010, 05:28:44 PM
What time is the Armagh/Galway game on at in Clonmore tomorrow.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on May 22, 2010, 05:33:17 PM
Quote from: crossfire on May 22, 2010, 05:28:44 PM
What time is the Armagh/Galway game on at in Clonmore tomorrow.

I'm nearly sure it's at 2.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on May 22, 2010, 07:15:00 PM
Orchard TV presents Highlights of the ACL Division 1 game between Crossmaglen and Cullyhanna

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--ACL---Crossmaglen-v-Cullyhanna-Highlights.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 23, 2010, 08:50:10 PM
Cruppen beat clans by one tonight at clann eireann. Draw would probably have been a fair enough result though clans were 10-4 up at the start of the second half
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on May 24, 2010, 10:07:49 AM
Orchard TV speaks to Tony McEntee & Oisin McConville after Crossmaglen's victory over Cullyhanna

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--Tony-McEntee---Oisin-McConville-interviews.aspx

Match report and interview as Armagh minors Hurlers move into Ulster Semi-Final

http://armagh-gaa.com/Hurling/News/UMHC--Armagh-7-16-Tyrone-0-9.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 24, 2010, 11:17:45 AM
Team name                                                       P W  D   L   F    A  +/-  Pts
Crossmaglen Rangers                                           6  6  0  0  107  55  52  12 
Naomh Cillian Crois Bán                                         6  5  0  1  92  53  39  10 
Pearse Og Armagh/Na Piarsaigh Oga Ard Mhacha     7  5  0  2  93  73  20  10 
Maghery Sean McDermotts                                   7  4  2  1  103  97  6  10 
Carrickcruppin St Patrick's                                     7  3  1  3  75  99  -24  7 
Naomh Pádraig Droim an Tí                                   6  3  0  3  71  67  4  6 
Culloville Blues/Baile Mhic Cullach                            6  3  0  3  68  70  -2  6 
Clan na Gael An Lorgáin                                       6  2  0  4  80  95  -15  4 
Cúchulainn Mullach Bán                                        7  2  0  5  63  83  -20  4 
Sarsfields Derrytrasna                                          7  2  0  5  86  122  -36  4 
St Patrick's Cullyhanna                                         6  1  1  4  69  79  -10  3 
Killeavey St Moninnes                                          7  1  0  6  72  86  -14  2 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 24, 2010, 12:20:24 PM
ACL Div 1: St Patrick's 1-10 Crossmaglen Rangers 3-11

After last week's poor performance against Carrickcruppen, the fixture list afforded the Cullyhanna seniors little respite as they visited reigning League Champions Crossmaglen. However while the result was ultimately disappointing, the team can at least take pride in what was a vastly improved performance from which they were perhaps a shade unfortunate not to get a better reward than an 8 point defeat.

As has been the case too often this season, St Pat's started poorly and were 4 points behind early on thanks to a Cross free and an well-taken Oisin McConville goal. Eugene Casey replied with a pointed free. A fisted point from the home side meant that with a quarter of the match gone, despite the general play being fairly even, Cross led by 1-2 to 0-1 with Cullyhanna being left to rue a number of missed frees. Pointed frees from Eugene Casey and Tony Donnelly sandwiched a superb Jamie Clarke point for Crossmaglen. The highlight of the half from a St Pat's perspective came 5 minutes from the break when Barry McConville made a purposeful run, exchanged passes with Kieran O'Neill and kicked an excellent point. Cross replied with 2 points of their own before a high Kieran O'Neill kick dropped over the bar to bring St Pat's back within 3 points. However the St Pat's side were hit with a hammer blow just before half-time when a long Crossmaglen ball across the goal found Aaron Kernan in apace and the county man rounded Conor O'Neill before finished to the net to leave Crossmaglen 2-6 to 0-6 ahead at half-time.

The second half settled into a fairly steady rhythm with the sides exchanging 2 points a piece in the third quarter; a Tony Donnelly free and a great point from the left hand side by Eugene Casey providing the Cullyhanna scores. With 13 minutes to go, Robbie Tasker began to exert a real influence on proceedings; firstly the corner forward caused confusion from a high ball into the square and kicked the ball against the crossbar and over the bar. 5 minutes later another direct ball in from Barry McConville was well collected by Tasker who showed wonderful composure and skill to dummy the goalkeeper and fire the ball to the net. When Tasker found Rory McMahon with an excellent pass, the substitute made no mistake in firing over the point which left St Pat's 2 points behind with 5 minutes to go and seemingly with every chance of rescuing at least a draw. But if Crossmaglen were rattled, they showed no such signs and extended their lead a minute later thanks to what can only be described as a very soft free. Almost immediately a dangerous Crossmaglen ball into the square was cut out by goalkeeper Conor O'Neill but unfortunately his attempted clearance was rebounded towards the net and, despite the valiant efforts of Eoin McArdle, rolled in for a goal to effectively win the match for the home side. The match petered out with Tony Kernan and Eugene Casey exchanging scores as Cross ran out winners on a scoreline of 3-11 to 1-10.

While Crossmaglen's more clinical attitude in front of goal meant that they were probably deserving winners, it is only fair to note that the final 7 point winning margin was a poor reflection on the evenness of the general play in terms of both territory and possession throughout the match. St Pat's competed very well throughout but were ultimately outdone by the concession of goals at crucial periods. While the result left St Pat's mired in the relegation zone with only one win from six matches, if the side can build on this performance hopefully they will start to pick up more wins as the season progresses.

Starting XV: Conor O'Neill; Peter McKeever, Stephen Reel, Sean O'Neill; Aidan Mackin, Ciaran McKeever, Eoin McArdle; Barry McConville (0-1), Paudie McCreesh; Kieran O'Neill (0-1), Eugene Casey (0-4), Kieran Hoey; Shane McKeever, Tony Donnelly (0-2), Robbie Tasker (1-1) Subs Used: Paul Toner, Rory McMahon (0-1)

ACL Div 4: St Patrick's II 1-2 Crossmaglen Rangers II 4-12

While the Division 1 side were battling gamely away to Crossmaglen, at the same time, the Division 4 team hosted the same opponents in another local derby. Like their senior counterparts, Crossmaglen benefited from an excellent start as they had the ball in the net within 30 seconds of the throw in. This was to prove the pattern of the match as Crossmaglen had the better of the exchanges throughout. To be fair to the St Pat's side they competed well and did have a spell of pressure in the first half however they found it difficult to convert their possession into scores and trailed by 1-8 to 0-2 at half time. A physically strong and experienced Crossmaglen side continued to dominate in the second period as they ran out comfortable winners despite St Pat's notching a second half consolation goal from James Thompson.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on May 24, 2010, 03:23:47 PM
Quote from: orange2009 on May 22, 2010, 07:15:00 PM
Orchard TV presents Highlights of the ACL Division 1 game between Crossmaglen and Cullyhanna

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--ACL---Crossmaglen-v-Cullyhanna-Highlights.aspx

great to be able to see some highlights be jaysus your man McDonald's reporting is lifeless....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mrgaa1 on May 24, 2010, 11:04:40 PM
Derrynoose GAC are attempting a World Record Attempt on Saturday 12th June.  Also on the same day all four codes, camogie, ladies football, hurling and football, will see FOUR fada competitions for county titles up for grabs at senior level.  This has never happened anywhere else in Ireland and is unique.  check out http://derrynoosegac.com/wordpress/?p=130  for the FADA competitions and check out the rest of the website for information on the world record attempt.  A great way for clubs to raise loads of money without organising anything.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on May 25, 2010, 11:23:53 AM
Good luck with the world record attempt. You should have posted this on the main GAA section as well, you might get a few clubs from other counties to participate as well. I believe the county senior football and hurling teams are taking part as well as all the development squads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on May 25, 2010, 12:25:44 PM
All Div 1 games and some Div 2 games moved to Friday night i see, a select number of county players are allowed to play.......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 25, 2010, 02:12:01 PM
I heard the clans v Maghery game is on Monday night...can anyone confirm this
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mrgaa1 on May 25, 2010, 02:14:12 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on May 25, 2010, 11:23:53 AM
Good luck with the world record attempt. You should have posted this on the main GAA section as well, you might get a few clubs from other counties to participate as well. I believe the county senior football and hurling teams are taking part as well as all the development squads.
thanks - just did.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 25, 2010, 05:14:24 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 25, 2010, 02:12:01 PM
I heard the clans v Maghery game is on Monday night...can anyone confirm this

Wouldn't be like us to further complicate a complicated situation
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on May 25, 2010, 09:06:34 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 25, 2010, 02:12:01 PM
I heard the clans v Maghery game is on Monday night...can anyone confirm this
yes the maghery v clans game is  monday at half 7 in maghery
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 26, 2010, 08:20:01 AM
Ballymacnab beat Newtown last night by 1 point
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 27, 2010, 04:23:00 PM
Is there any all county b results available from last night?

Clans beat Sarsfields in Trasna that's the only result i know
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on May 27, 2010, 06:43:09 PM
harps bt ogs by 1 point
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on May 28, 2010, 07:35:26 AM
St. Peters beat Tir no Ogs by 5 points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 28, 2010, 04:04:17 PM
Armagh Senior Football Championship Odds 2010

Cross - 4/6
Og's - 3/1
Dromintee - 8/1
A Harps - 16/1
Granemore - 16/1
St Pats - 20/1
Maghery - 25/1
C'cuppin - 25/1
Clans - 25/1
Killeavy - 33/1
Whitecross - 33/1
M'bawn - 33/1
St Michaels - 50/1
Ballymacnab - 50/1
Clann Eireann - 66/1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 28, 2010, 04:05:34 PM
The Og'd at 3/1 has to be worth a bet.

Ballymacnab for an EW bet at them odds too
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on May 28, 2010, 04:16:20 PM
Nothing there for Granemore illdecide, they'd be a good EW bet also.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 28, 2010, 05:06:54 PM
Quote from: mackers on May 28, 2010, 04:16:20 PM
Nothing there for Granemore illdecide, they'd be a good EW bet also.

Yeah, sorry there lad left that out (accidently)...

you could be right but i doubt it ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on May 28, 2010, 05:31:10 PM
There's value to be had there in a gambling sense, especially if you take a gamble that Ogs and Cross get pitted against each other before the final - then you could lay your bet off if your selection gets to the final.  Dromintee are good value there, ourselves with a full team would be well fit for anyone.  Whitecross could be the best outside bet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 28, 2010, 06:25:10 PM
Those odds suggest we're the 4th best team in division 1 which is a strange proposition given our recent form.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mrgaa1 on May 28, 2010, 07:45:00 PM
(http://derrynoosegac.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/fada_2.jpg)

A picture with Stevie McDonnell, Bernie Murray (Armagh camogies captain), Jamie Clarke, Paddy O'Rourke and Pauric McKeever (gaastore.com) at the launch of the FADA competition.  Check out  http://derrynoosegac.com/wordpress/?cat=9 or email worldrecord12june@btinternet.com to register yourself for the FADA competition.  The FADA events are sponsored by http://www.thegaastore.com/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 28, 2010, 09:24:53 PM
Ogs beat Killeavy tonight on a scoreline of 0-13 to 0-11. Good to get points on the board after 2 defeats. Cowardly move by Killeavy number 10 near the end on Tommy Turley, stamped on the back of his leg off the ball.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 28, 2010, 10:09:52 PM
Quote from: ogshead on May 28, 2010, 09:24:53 PM
Ogs beat Killeavy tonight on a scoreline of 0-13 to 0-11. Good to get points on the board after 2 defeats. Cowardly move by Killeavy number 10 near the end on Tommy Turley, stamped on the back of his leg off the ball.

It was Jamie Graham who the no.10 did it to.

Its good to get back to winning ways though. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Benny Barnaveld on May 28, 2010, 10:14:28 PM
Sarsfields 0*09 Crossmaglen Rangers 3*16. Very tame affair. Stephen Kernan had a good game probably the pick.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on May 28, 2010, 11:25:49 PM
Quote from: illdecide on May 28, 2010, 05:06:54 PM
Quote from: mackers on May 28, 2010, 04:16:20 PM
Nothing there for Granemore illdecide, they'd be a good EW bet also.

Yeah, sorry there lad left that out (accidently)...

you could be right but i doubt it ;)
i doubt it very much also , dont think we,ll be reaching the dizzy heights of last season in league or championship  :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 28, 2010, 11:26:25 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on May 28, 2010, 10:09:52 PM
Quote from: ogshead on May 28, 2010, 09:24:53 PM
Ogs beat Killeavy tonight on a scoreline of 0-13 to 0-11. Good to get points on the board after 2 defeats. Cowardly move by Killeavy number 10 near the end on Tommy Turley, stamped on the back of his leg off the ball.

It was Jamie Graham who the no.10 did it to.

Its good to get back to winning ways though.

Shit, my mistake...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 29, 2010, 01:22:13 AM
anyone who has aspirations of  Granemore or Dromintee winning senior championships is living in cuckoos land. Simple as this it will boil down to Cross or Ogs the year. Anyone thinks anything else is dillusional and wears blinkers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on May 29, 2010, 07:24:22 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 29, 2010, 01:22:13 AM
anyone who has aspirations of  Granemore or Dromintee winning senior championships is living in cuckoos land. Simple as this it will boil down to Cross or Ogs the year. Anyone thinks anything else is dillusional and wears blinkers.
granemore wont be in the shake up [ 1 st rd winner maybe ] i would have them in the 33/1 bracket  ,i think dromintee and the harps could reach the semi final stage but as you say it will boil down to cross and og,s as eventual winners .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 29, 2010, 11:18:20 AM
Quote from: illdecide on May 28, 2010, 04:04:17 PM
Armagh Senior Football Championship Odds 2010

Cross - 4/6
Og's - 3/1
Dromintee - 8/1
A Harps - 16/1
Granemore - 16/1
St Pats - 20/1
Maghery - 25/1
C'cuppin - 25/1
Clans - 25/1
Killeavy - 33/1
Whitecross - 33/1
M'bawn - 33/1
St Michaels - 50/1
Ballymacnab - 50/1
Clann Eireann - 66/1

So you could get 1/6 on either Cross or the Ogs winning.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 29, 2010, 01:49:45 PM
Any other division 1 results??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 29, 2010, 02:29:59 PM
Quote from: mackers on May 28, 2010, 04:16:20 PM
Nothing there for Granemore illdecide, they'd be a good EW bet also.

16/1 no chance.when you weigh odds up in comparison with the nab only one winner
hard look past cross,ogs,dromintee if doin e/way bet dromintee may be best shot if ogs/cross meet before final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on May 29, 2010, 03:30:32 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 29, 2010, 01:22:13 AM
anyone who has aspirations of  Granemore or Dromintee winning senior championships is living in cuckoos land. Simple as this it will boil down to Cross or Ogs the year. Anyone thinks anything else is dillusional and wears blinkers.
You'd want to read the posts again before posting...............settle yourself......nobody suggested that either team would win the championship, they were referred to as E/W bets. ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 29, 2010, 03:59:52 PM
I don't remember inserting any quotes mackers therefore i wasn't refering to your post but the championship chances in general so settle your own self saan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on May 29, 2010, 07:47:43 PM
armagh minors 1-06 monaghan 0-05 half time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on May 29, 2010, 10:37:48 PM
armagh 1-13 monaghan 1-8 ft
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Any craic on May 30, 2010, 08:36:06 AM
http://vimeo.com/12141451 - highlights from the minor game, first-half, so far

http://vimeo.com/12142139[url]] (http://[/url) - highlights from the minor game, first-half, so far

http://vimeo.com/12142139// - an emotional but happy day for Clann Eireann at the Marie Hoye Memorial tournament

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Benny Barnaveld on May 30, 2010, 04:42:06 PM
Armagh League Division 2 Result Today @ 2pm.              Granemore 1*14    Ballyhegan 0*15
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on May 30, 2010, 05:46:23 PM
Congrats t the Armagh Minor Hurlers who beat Derry today in the c'ship, a great result and they should go into the semi final against Down with great confidence.

A bit unfair  they have to beat Derry, down and Antrim to win it buts that life at the bottom, although having Antrim sitting in the final already without a game is a joke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 30, 2010, 07:36:43 PM
ACL Division 1 St. Patrick's 0-11 Culloville 1-10

This was a close enough game which could have gone either way but in the end it was Culloville's greater potency in front of the posts which carried the day. Cullyhanna got off to a good start with points from Aidan Mackin and Kieran Hoey before slack defending allowed the visitors in for the only goal of the game in the 7th minute. Despite this setback the home side continued to make the running and a brace of points from Aidan Mackin and Barry McConville saw them regain the lead. Towards the end of the half Culloville began to find their rhythm and added 2 points. St. Pat's finished strongly with points from Tony Donnelly (free) and Shane McKeever to ease them into a 0-6 to 1-2 half-time advantage.


St. Pat's would have been happy enough at half-time with a one point lead having played against a stiff enough wind. However Culloville upped their game on the resumption and registered 4 points in the opening 5 minutes of the second-half. As the half progressed Culloville's ability to consistently win the breaking ball around midfield was a significant factor in the result as St. Pat's were forced more onto the defensive. In attack Cullyhanna worked hard enough but lacked the cutting edge of their opponents and were largely dependent on converted frees for their scores. Overall a disappointing result which poses the danger of relegation even at this early stage of the season. Improvement is needed and no doubt the team are capable of playing better than they have done so far this year.

Team: Declan McArdle, Peter McKeever, Stephen Reel, Brendan Savage, Michael Murray, Paudie McCreesh, Eoin McArdle, Barry McConville (0-1), Tony Donnelly (0-5, all frees), Aidan Mackin (0-2), Eugene Casey, Kieran Hoey (0-1), Robbie Tasker (0-1), Paudie Mackin, Shane McKeever (0-1): subs used: Paul Toner, Rory McMahon, Kyle McEvoy.

ACL Division 4: St Patrick's II 0-4 Derrynoose 2-12

For the second week in a row the Division 4 side slumped to a heavy defeat thanks to a below-par performance away to Derrynoose on a fine Sunday afternoon. The visitors had their backs against wall from the opening seconds as Derrynoose collected the ball from the initial throw-in and waltzed through the Cullyhanna defence to score a goal within the first 20 seconds. Derrynoose followed this up with a point after 3 minutes however St Pat's managed to get a foothold in the game when Paddy McDonnell won the ball well in the full forward line and sent a brilliant kick over the bar. McDonnell was on the scoresheet again within 20 seconds and after 7 minutes Miceal Connolly found Brendan Murray well with a fist pass and the corner forward kicked a nice score to bring his side within a point of the home side. However this was to prove Cullyhanna's only spell of dominance in the match as Derrynoose began to take control scoring 3 points in a row thanks to an effective and direct brand of football. On 14 minutes came the decisive score of the match when a high ball into the Derrynoose attack wasn't dealt with by the St Pat's defence and, in the confusion which reigned, the ball was palmed to the net for a Derrynoose goal. The concession of this score badly affected Cullyhanna who let their heads drop somewhat as Derrynoose finished the half strongly with a further 4 points to put them 2-7 to 0-3 ahead at the break.

St Pat's seemed to respond well to their half-time team talk when Paddy McDonnell got a good point in the first minute but unfortunately for the Cullyhanna men this was to prove their only score of the second half as the game petered out into a comfortable Derrynoose victory. While Cullyhanna never really looked like getting back into the game, they were perhaps unfortunate not to put a better complexion on the scoreboard as 3 clearcut goal chances went begging with Paddy McDonnell particularly unfortunate to see a long range goal effort come crashing off the goalpost.

Although St Pat's had plenty of possession throughout the match, the wrong option on the ball was chosen on too many occasions and some slack marking meant that Derrynoose found scores much easier to come by than their opponents. Best on the day for St Pat's were Terry Toner, Kevin Toner and Paddy McDonnell. All in all, this was a disappointing enough performance and no doubt the players and management will be keen to make amends when they host fellow seconds team Killeavy on Friday night.

Starting XV: F Murphy; T Toner, B Quinn, C Quinn; R O'Neill, P Loughran, F Nugent; M Connolly, K Toner; B Nugent, M McConville, K Nugent; C McGlade, P McDonnell (0-3), B Murray (0-1) Subs Used: P McKeever, J Thomson, J Quinn, A Quinn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on May 31, 2010, 12:23:05 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on May 30, 2010, 05:46:23 PM
Congrats t the Armagh Minor Hurlers who beat Derry today in the c'ship, a great result and they should go into the semi final against Down with great confidence.

A bit unfair  they have to beat Derry, down and Antrim to win it buts that life at the bottom, although having Antrim sitting in the final already without a game is a joke

Final score was:
Armagh 4-15
Derry 2-14

Play Down in 2 weeks time in semi's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 31, 2010, 04:16:50 PM
any1 know throw in time/venue 4 maghery clans tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 31, 2010, 04:45:30 PM
Maghery @7:30
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on May 31, 2010, 05:11:21 PM
cheers win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 31, 2010, 06:31:34 PM
Quote from: CountyGK on May 31, 2010, 12:23:05 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on May 30, 2010, 05:46:23 PM
Congrats t the Armagh Minor Hurlers who beat Derry today in the c'ship, a great result and they should go into the semi final against Down with great confidence.

A bit unfair  they have to beat Derry, down and Antrim to win it buts that life at the bottom, although having Antrim sitting in the final already without a game is a joke

Final score was:
Armagh 4-15
Derry 2-14

Play Down in 2 weeks time in semi's

Brilliant result... gives all concerned with hurling in Armagh a boost. Well done lads!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 31, 2010, 08:58:11 PM
Clans 2-9 to 0-7 Maghery 5 mins to go and young maghery lad badly injured looking like a broken leg (awaiting ambulance) From what i hear.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: oman on May 31, 2010, 08:59:59 PM
Any reports from the Minor hurling game against Derry. Great win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 31, 2010, 09:04:01 PM
Ft Maghery 0-7 Clans 2-9 Nice one lads
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 31, 2010, 10:31:04 PM
Good win for Clans in Maghery. Could have been a different story if the home team had brought their shooting boots, though to be fair we took our chances and deserved the win  :)
Hope that fella's injury isn't too serious.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 01, 2010, 02:02:59 PM
I agree that Maghery hit a lot of wides but I think some credit has to be given to the blues defence who had them shooting from ridiculous angles a lot of the time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 01, 2010, 04:39:02 PM
Quote from: ogshead on May 31, 2010, 06:31:34 PM
Quote from: CountyGK on May 31, 2010, 12:23:05 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on May 30, 2010, 05:46:23 PM
Congrats t the Armagh Minor Hurlers who beat Derry today in the c'ship, a great result and they should go into the semi final against Down with great confidence.

A bit unfair  they have to beat Derry, down and Antrim to win it buts that life at the bottom, although having Antrim sitting in the final already without a game is a joke

Final score was:
Armagh 4-15
Derry 2-14

Play Down in 2 weeks time in semi's

Brilliant result... gives all concerned with hurling in Armagh a boost. Well done lads!!
Spirit this is because of all other years failings and stuffings. is there a chance that the minors could win ulster if so is this team better or has the other counties standards dropped? what did you think of the senior hammering is this a set back or just reality. well done to minor players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on June 01, 2010, 06:08:21 PM
no complaints last night good win for clans out in maghery clans were sharper and more hungry than we were and although we kick 20 wides and 6 short clans deserved 2 win. thought the ref was as good as weve had this year.  The man that got hurt was r captain and r most consistant player this past 4 years staffy cusack didint break his leg but could be the dreaded cruciate which were cursed with 6 in last 6 years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 01, 2010, 09:12:19 PM
Heard  today that the lads leg was broke. Cruciate is probably a worse injury! Hope the lad gets well soon
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 01, 2010, 09:43:12 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 01, 2010, 04:39:02 PM
Quote from: ogshead on May 31, 2010, 06:31:34 PM
Quote from: CountyGK on May 31, 2010, 12:23:05 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on May 30, 2010, 05:46:23 PM
Congrats t the Armagh Minor Hurlers who beat Derry today in the c'ship, a great result and they should go into the semi final against Down with great confidence.

A bit unfair  they have to beat Derry, down and Antrim to win it buts that life at the bottom, although having Antrim sitting in the final already without a game is a joke

Final score was:
Armagh 4-15
Derry 2-14

Play Down in 2 weeks time in semi's

Brilliant result... gives all concerned with hurling in Armagh a boost. Well done lads!!
Spirit this is because of all other years failings and stuffings. is there a chance that the minors could win ulster if so is this team better or has the other counties standards dropped? what did you think of the senior hammering is this a set back or just reality. well done to minor players.

I know you directed the question at Spirit, Wanderer, but I would prefer to look at the glass half full. It's a boost to Armagh hurling. The senior result was disappointing but at least there is talent starting to come through. I know one good minor team will not mean Armagh become a hurling power in Ulster but it is something to work with. If you notice the underage club results you will see that it's not Keady winning everthing like they were ten years ago and it is more competitive and this will definitely help the county sides. When one club wins everything it's easier for players to drift away
The Ulster league win will also give the players confidence to have a good rattle at it anyway and they have had a good year. Antrim are in the final because of previous performances and I think that decision was probably made before the league started
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on June 02, 2010, 09:43:18 AM
Quote from: ogshead on June 01, 2010, 09:43:12 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 01, 2010, 04:39:02 PM
Quote from: ogshead on May 31, 2010, 06:31:34 PM
Quote from: CountyGK on May 31, 2010, 12:23:05 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on May 30, 2010, 05:46:23 PM
Congrats t the Armagh Minor Hurlers who beat Derry today in the c'ship, a great result and they should go into the semi final against Down with great confidence.

A bit unfair  they have to beat Derry, down and Antrim to win it buts that life at the bottom, although having Antrim sitting in the final already without a game is a joke

Final score was:
Armagh 4-15
Derry 2-14

Play Down in 2 weeks time in semi's

Brilliant result... gives all concerned with hurling in Armagh a boost. Well done lads!!
Spirit this is because of all other years failings and stuffings. is there a chance that the minors could win ulster if so is this team better or has the other counties standards dropped? what did you think of the senior hammering is this a set back or just reality. well done to minor players.

I know you directed the question at Spirit, Wanderer, but I would prefer to look at the glass half full. It's a boost to Armagh hurling. The senior result was disappointing but at least there is talent starting to come through. I know one good minor team will not mean Armagh become a hurling power in Ulster but it is something to work with. If you notice the underage club results you will see that it's not Keady winning everthing like they were ten years ago and it is more competitive and this will definitely help the county sides. When one club wins everything it's easier for players to drift away
The Ulster league win will also give the players confidence to have a good rattle at it anyway and they have had a good year. Antrim are in the final because of previous performances and I think that decision was probably made before the league started

The wanderer you seem very sceptical about the hurling in the county, i know previously you have poured scorn on the money being invested in the development of the game and now your querying the ability of the other counties instead of recognising the huge strides that have been made.  I do realise our starting position is due to past results, but i do feel Antrim in the final is wrong at minor level (although i see the reasoning at senior level).

Although at 1st glance the senior result looks like a disaster, there  are a number of factors I feel that contributed to this. Down at the moment  are at a higher level than Armagh and have been playing well of late, also the team had a few niggly injuries which were not chanced due to this weeks game. Also the Nicky Rackard starts this weekend which is far more important in the eyes of the Armagh team and is what this season has been geared toward.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 02, 2010, 10:32:44 AM
Spirit who are the main rivals for the nicky rackard. i also would say that i encourage anyone who wishes to play hurling but unfortunately armagh is not a traditional hurling county and unfortunately will never be able to compete at the top level as can be seen by down and derry who have a bigger hurling base and tradition but cannot make the break to the bigger stage. as i have stated before i have no problem supporting hurling financially but enticing young players with free gear in development squads is wrong and costly. 178k to run hurling county teams in 2009 with little income in return is my only concern. ps bad looking when an armagh senior hurling club team cant field a team last night due to only 9 turning up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on June 02, 2010, 02:18:40 PM
anyone see silver mckee interview on the armagh website..."antrim's name's on that trophy"
mind games or does he really believe that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 02, 2010, 03:00:32 PM
Anyone got the first division fixtures for this fri night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 02, 2010, 03:25:51 PM
Friday 4 June
ACL – Div. I (7.30)
Pearse Og v Whitecross (Rory Robinson) OFF
Culloville v Sarsfields (Joe Murtagh)
Killeavy v St Patrick's (Barney Henry)
Carrickcruppen v Mullaghbawn (Eamon Nugent)
Clan na Gael v Dromintee (Jimmy McKee) at Derrytrasna
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: oman on June 02, 2010, 03:35:34 PM
just out of interest who was the senior hurling team who could not field last night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mrgaa1 on June 02, 2010, 08:36:36 PM
it wasn't Keady, Cuchulainns, Middletown or Derrynoose - so that leaves Sean Treacy's, Craobh Rua and Killeavy. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 02, 2010, 10:14:32 PM
Where dromintee playing maghery tonight in the league? If so how did it go?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on June 03, 2010, 08:21:31 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 02, 2010, 10:14:32 PM
Where dromintee playing maghery tonight in the league? If so how did it go?

i think that was in the B championship, not sure how it went

culyhanna beat wolf tones in it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on June 03, 2010, 09:01:12 AM
Quote from: oman on June 02, 2010, 03:35:34 PM
just out of interest who was the senior hurling team who could not field last night.
More than likely Killeavy as their match against the Cuchulainns was called off very late on tuesday evening 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 03, 2010, 10:15:58 AM
Clans beat Silverbridge in the B championship last night 0-10 to 0-07, it was a poor enough match and fair play to Silverbridge for waiting on the Clans as their bus broke down on the way to the match and we didn't get there until about 8:15.

The ref (T O'Hare) was sound enough for both teams, didn't hear any complaints from either side
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 03, 2010, 10:37:05 AM
Il at least it broke down on the way to the match rather than goin home when yous would have blamed the south armagh diesel fill up? ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 03, 2010, 10:39:23 AM
pearse ogs beat st. peters 3/12 to 0/9, plenty left in the tank with a few prominant players on the side lines to return for the next round.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 03, 2010, 10:54:10 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 03, 2010, 10:37:05 AM
Il at least it broke down on the way to the match rather than goin home when yous would have blamed the south armagh diesel fill up? ;D

aye true enough...I seen Jarleth Burns there last night running around in a pair of Arsenal shorts, what about Mr GAA is soccer gear...ehh ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nrico2006 on June 03, 2010, 10:54:47 AM
Quote from: BenDover on June 03, 2010, 09:01:12 AM
Quote from: oman on June 02, 2010, 03:35:34 PM
just out of interest who was the senior hurling team who could not field last night.
More than likely Killeavy as their match against the Cuchulainns was called off very late on tuesday evening

The Camlough and Lurgan game was played.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BNAB10 on June 03, 2010, 12:42:16 PM
Grange beat Ballymacnab in the nab last night in the 'B' Championship by 4 or 5 points. It was a poor game with county minor Michael McKenna the stand out player at CHF
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 03, 2010, 02:48:49 PM
poor result for the nab thought they might have been stronger.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on June 03, 2010, 06:53:15 PM
Quote from: pearseog on June 02, 2010, 02:18:40 PM
anyone see silver mckee interview on the armagh website..."antrim's name's on that trophy"
mind games or does he really believe that?

what do you reckon? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: oman on June 03, 2010, 09:49:04 PM
Simon. What do you reckon?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on June 03, 2010, 10:44:56 PM
Quote from: oman on June 03, 2010, 09:49:04 PM
Simon. What do you reckon?

Now that would be telling! Down 13th June at Casement, need to get through that one first
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 04, 2010, 08:24:10 PM
Clans 0-07 Dromintee 0-02 ht
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 04, 2010, 09:01:58 PM
Nab 2-8
Madden 0-6

Full time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 04, 2010, 09:03:51 PM
Clans 1-11 Dromintee 0-06 ft nice 2 points bagged. Well done lads
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ulick on June 04, 2010, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 17, 2010, 10:20:45 AM
dont forget one result doesnt make a season or destroy it. ;) ur still goin to have a relegation battle :-[ enjoy the moment.

Bump
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 04, 2010, 10:06:02 PM
Killeavy 0-14 St Pat's 0-13

Desperately frustrating night - led near enought he entire match until injury time. We swtiched off for the last 5 minutes of the first half and the last 10 minutes of the second and Killeavy got the bulk of their scores in that period. We're deeply mired in the relegation zone now - think that result puts us bottom.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 04, 2010, 10:10:44 PM
Cullaville 2-21

Sarsfields 0-9
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 04, 2010, 10:34:55 PM
granemore bt  the harps 1-13 - 0-6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 04, 2010, 10:49:52 PM
Well done blues - great result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 05, 2010, 12:05:02 AM
tones beat ballyhegan by 2
clnn eireann newtown/silverbridge keady 2 draws
perers beat tirnanog by mnimum
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 05, 2010, 11:43:54 AM
Tones will be getting nosebleeds after that win lol  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 05, 2010, 11:45:25 AM
2 more points fitz in our attempt to stay in the division!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Benny Barnaveld on June 05, 2010, 12:16:14 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 05, 2010, 11:45:25 AM
2 more points fitz in our attempt to stay in the division!

...........And Ballyhegan slipped out of it! Nearly certain to go down now. Looking more like a divison 3 team with every match
           Never seen a team make so many individual errors so often

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 05, 2010, 02:56:15 PM
wouldnt say that barney.keady will struggle and you would have great chance of beating tirnanog next week i would say
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 05, 2010, 05:46:38 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 05, 2010, 02:56:15 PM
wouldnt say that barney.keady will struggle and you would have great chance of beating tirnanog next week i would say
keady and st peters to go down , tir na nog came down with a bump after beating granemore well the following week , but i would,nt say ballyhegan have a great chance of beating them  8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: úllord on June 05, 2010, 09:47:34 PM
Armagh 3-15 Fingal 1-12

Good win for Armagh.

Interviews with Paul Kelly and Paul McCormack...

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO---Armagh-3-15-Fingal-1-12.aspx

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on June 05, 2010, 10:00:25 PM
i see granemore beat the harps easy, is that a division one or two game!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 06, 2010, 01:18:44 AM
division 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Heaneys Wish on June 06, 2010, 11:20:01 AM
Be very interesting to see how today's Ref M Sludden gets on today? I personally feel this game is too big for him and he will kill it technically and his fitness has always been in question, S Woods must be on a knife edge today seeing that he backed his recent promo to grade 1 refereeing status allegedly at head quarters??????????? Lets see how his man gets on, with the cameras etc etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 06, 2010, 12:04:16 PM
Armagh ACL Tables as at Saturday 5 June 2010

Division I
Team P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 8 8 0 0 16
Whitecross 7 6 0 1 12
Pearse Og 8 6 0 2 12
Culloville 8 5 0 3 10
Maghery 9 4 2 3 10
Carrickcruppen 8 4 1 3 9
Clan na Gael 8 4 0 4 8
Dromintee 7 3 0 4 6
Killeavy 9 2 0 7 4
Mullaghbawn 9 2 0 7 4
Sarsfields 9 2 0 7 4
St Patrick's 8 1 1 6 3

Division II
Team P W D L Pts
Ballymacnab 9 9 0 0 18
Granemore 9 7 0 2 14
Armagh Harps 8 5 0 3 10
Wolfe Tone 8 5 0 3 10
Silverbridge 9 4 2 3 10
St Michael's 9 4 1 4 9
Tir na nÓg 9 4 1 4 9
Madden 9 4 0 5 8
Clann Eireann 8 2 1 5 5
Keady 8 2 1 5 5
Ballyhegan 8 1 0 7 2
St Peter's 8 1 0 7 2

Division III
Team P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 9 8 0 1 16
Collegeland 9 7 1 1 15
Middletown 8 6 1 1 13
Tullysaran 9 6 1 2 13
Annaghmore 9 5 0 4 10
Forkhill 9 4 0 5 8
Lissummon 9 4 0 5 8
St Paul's 9 4 0 5 8
Eire Og 9 2 2 5 6
An Port Mor 9 2 0 7 4
Belleek 9 2 0 7 4
Clonmore 8 0 1 7 1

Division IV
Team P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen II 9 9 0 0 18
Derrynoose 9 7 1 1 15
Grange 8 6 0 2 12
Dorsey Emmett's 7 5 1 1 11
Killeavy II 8 5 1 2 11
St Patrick's II 9 4 0 5 8
Corrinshego 8 3 1 4 7
O'Hanlon's 9 2 2 5 6
Clady 8 1 2 5 4
Killean 8 1 2 5 4
Mullabrack 7 1 0 6 2
Phelim Brady's 8 0 0 8 0

Taken from:

http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/armagh-acl-tables-saturday-5-june-2010-a-517/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 06, 2010, 12:17:31 PM
Clans should be on 12 points - 4 points pissed down the drain (Against Cruppen and Killeavy) however thats not a yap I think the team learned a lot from those defeats and you are seeing the effects of that in recent performances.

The pleasing thing for blues supporters (If you could call our supporters supporters!!) is that this remains a very young side but even still there is much more to come from it. I believe in 4 weeks time Clans will be 2nd or 3rd in the table and wont look back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 06, 2010, 12:57:12 PM
Going the right direction n e way
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on June 06, 2010, 04:57:31 PM
bit like last year ivedecided, poor start-doomed to div 2 next year then your good old friends at pearse og kickstart your season!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 06, 2010, 05:02:46 PM
Quote from: pearseog on June 06, 2010, 04:57:31 PM
bit like last year ivedecided, poor start-doomed to div 2 next year then your good old friends at pearse og kickstart your season!  ;)
Many thanks  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Heaneys Wish on June 06, 2010, 05:56:48 PM
Quote from: Heaneys Wish on June 06, 2010, 11:20:01 AM
Be very interesting to see how today's Ref M Sludden gets on today? I personally feel this game is too big for him and he will kill it technically and his fitness has always been in question, S Woods must be on a knife edge today seeing that he backed his recent promo to grade 1 refereeing status allegedly at head quarters??????????? Lets see how his man gets on, with the cameras etc etc

Well not long back, but one consolation is that I made the right call on the Ref, Mr Woods must be suitably embarrassed! Just not championship material is Sludden, totally off the pace to far away on most of the decisions..........
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lucan on June 06, 2010, 07:27:06 PM
to heaneys wish . typical armagh attitude ;blaming the ref for a 12point massacre .at least we will have abit of peace in newryand the orange  camellions will commence their return to red and black
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 06, 2010, 09:25:24 PM
Armagh Club Results for w/e Saturday 5 June 2010

Monday 31 May
ACL – Div. I
Maghery 0-7; Clan na Gael 2-9

Wednesday 2 June
Armagh 'B' Championship – 1st Round
Pearse Og 3-12; St Peter's 0-9
Crossmaglen 4-12; Annaghmore 4-12
St Paul's 0-9; Granemore 0-7
Maghery 2-12; Dromintee 1-13
St Patrick's 1-14; Wolfe Tone 0-5
Silverbridge 0-6; Clan na Gael 0-10
Carrickcruppen 0-6; Mullaghbawn 0-12
Middletown 3-10; Collegeland 0-7
Ballymacnab 2-7; Grange 3-12
Clann Eireann 0-10; Culloville 0-7
Armagh Harps 2-12; Madden 0-8
ACL – Div. IV
Mullabrack 1-12; Derrynoose 2-10

Thursday 3 June
Armagh 'B' Championship – 1st Round
Sarsfields 1-12; Ballyhegan 1-2
ACL – Div. II
Silverbridge 0-10; Keady 1-7
ACL – Div. III
St Paul's 0-14; Belleek 0-9
Annaghmore 2-7; Eire Og 0-8

Friday 4 June
ACL – Div. I
Pearse Og v Whitecross (Off)
Culloville 2-21; Sarsfields 0-9
Killeavy 0-14; St Patrick's 0-13
Carrickcruppen 0-15; Mullaghbawn 0-8
Clan na Gael 1-11; Dromintee 0-6
ACL – Div. II
Wolfe Tone 0-14; Ballyhegan 1-9
Clann Eireann 1-14; St Michael's 1-14
Ballymacnab 2-8; Madden 0-6
Armagh Harps 1-6; Granemore 1-13
St Peter's 0-13; Tir na nÓg 0-12
ACL – Div. III
Forkhill 0-15; Tullysaran 0-13
Shane O'Neill's 1-17; Lissummon 0-5
An Port Mor 0-6; Collegeland 1-8
ACL – Div. IV
Phelim Brady's 2-4; Mullabrack 1-9
Dorsey Emmett's 1-16; Corrinshego 0-12
Grange 2-12; Crossmaglen II 1-16
St Patrick's II 0-3; Killeavy II 1-13
Killean 2-10; Clady 1-13

Saturday 5 June
ACL – Div. I
Crossmaglen 1-17; Maghery 1-8
ACL – Div. III
O'Hanlon's 1-2; Derrynoose 1-19
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on June 06, 2010, 11:04:01 PM
Surely someone in the 'Cash can see if your sitting 4th in the division you should be pushing these lads to try to get to 3rd then 2nd not sitting back on your ass concentrating on staying up!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Worker on June 06, 2010, 11:06:43 PM
any chance of a match report charles?

i enjoyed your reports from last season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 07, 2010, 12:36:09 AM
Quote from: true on June 06, 2010, 11:04:01 PM
Surely someone in the 'Cash can see if your sitting 4th in the division you should be pushing these lads to try to get to 3rd then 2nd not sitting back on your ass concentrating on staying up!!!!!!!!!!


Correct - no ambition!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 07, 2010, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 06, 2010, 12:17:31 PM
Clans should be on 12 points - 4 points pissed down the drain (Against Cruppen and Killeavy) however thats not a yap I think the team learned a lot from those defeats and you are seeing the effects of that in recent performances.

The pleasing thing for blues supporters (If you could call our supporters supporters!!) is that this remains a very young side but even still there is much more to come from it. I believe in 4 weeks time Clans will be 2nd or 3rd in the table and wont look back.

now now boys it wasnt that long ago that u wer lookin minor teams sent down to play ur boys. still a long way to go yet but once again u got the usual yearly help from ur nearest and dearest
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 07, 2010, 11:13:41 AM
Minor teams sent down...????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on June 07, 2010, 11:36:30 AM
Is it just me or is there a pattern with most games in division 1. if the matches are played on the sunday then usually the favourites for the match have won but if the game is played on a friday evening or any other evening with boys working all day etc then the home team almost always wins? just a thought.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 07, 2010, 01:15:39 PM
ACL Division 1: St Patrick's 0-13 Killeavy 0-14

The Senior side slipped to rock bottom in the first division table with a disastrous defeat away to Killeavy in a match which was effectively thrown away by the Cullyhanna men who dominated for large periods but allowed Killeavy back into the match through a lack of concentration and the concession of silly frees. The match began evenly enough with the sides exchanging two scores a piece, Robbie Tasker being the man on target for Cullyhanna. On 8 minutes, Kieran Hoey burst through the Killeavy defence and fired over a point to put Cullyhanna into the lead for the first time. 2 minutes later Shane McKeever made space well on the 45m line and kicked over a fine point. Cullyhanna almost extended their lead much further when Barry McConville did well to get on the end of an inventive Robbie Tasker pass however the ball was unfortunately palmed into the side netting. The game then fell into something of a lull for 10 minutes with a couple of injuries disrupting play before the sides exchanged pointed frees. A great cross field ball from Paudie Mackin found Robbie Tasker who by this stage was giving his marker a torrid time. Tasker kicked a superb point with the outside of his foot to put his side 0-6 to 0-3 ahead. When Kieran Hoey kicked a fine score after 27 minutes it looked like St Pat's would have a useful half time lead however some slopping marking and needless frees allowed Killeavy to narrow the deficit to the minimum with 3 quick-fire points just before the break. While the first half was probably even enough in terms of possession, St Pat's looked the more dangerous and will have been disappointed not to have been further ahead.

The second half began just as the first had, with a pointed Killeavy free however St Pat's soon began to dominate affairs and seized control of the match with points from Kieran Hoey, Eugene Casey and Robbie Tasker. A forceful run from Kieran Hoey on 17 minutes allowed him to kick an excellent score under pressure and a minute later Robbie Tasker continued his exhibition of forward play when he capitalised on a good Barry McConville pass to kick his fifth point of the game from play. With only 12 minutes left and Cullyhanna holding a commanding lead of 0-12 to 0-7, it looked as though the visitors were well on their way to their second victory of the season. However St Pat's failed to press home their advantage despite making a number of substitutions which appeared only to disrupt their rhythm. Sensing that the match was not beyond them, Killeavy responded with 3 scores in a row before Robbie Tasker steadied the ship with another great point to put Cullyhanna 3 ahead with 5 minutes of normal time remaining. Almost immediately Killeavy struck back with a point and with a minute to go a slow paced Cullyhanna broke down and some direct football from Killeavy brought them back within the minimum. By this stage, the St Pat's seemed to have run out of ideas and were struggling to hang on. It was perhaps inevitable that having wrestled control of the match, Killeavy were to kick the 2 late points needed to secure a crucial win.

This was a desperately disappointing defeat considering the pattern of the match and it is difficult to escape the conclusion that St Pat's effectively defeated themselves by switching off towards the end of each half. The side are now left in huge relegation trouble and while there is little doubt that the side contains enough quality players to stave off the drop, some major changes in performance are needed if results are to improve and Division 2 football is to be avoided. Best on the day for St Pat's were Robbie Tasker and Kieran Hoey who were a constant threat up front while Eoin McArdle had a good game in defence.

Starting XV: Conor O'Neill; Michael Murray, Stephen Reel, Brendan Savage; Eoin McArdle, Paudie McCreesh, Niall McShane; Barry McConville, Tony Donnelly (0-1); Aidan Mackin, Kieran Hoey (0-4), Shane McKeever (0-1); Eugene Casey (0-1) Paudie Mackin, Robbie Tasker (0-6). Subs Used: Gary McCooey, Liam O'Hare, Paul Toner

ACL Division 4: St Patrick's II 0-3 Killeavy 1-13

This battle of the Seconds sides resulted in a fairly comfortable victory for the Killeavy team who dominated throughout. Despite points from Shane O'Neill, Brendan Nugent and Peter Loughran, the Cullyhanna team were never really in touch however they will hopeful of a much improved performance against Mullabrack next week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 07, 2010, 03:37:00 PM
How are Clans 25/1 to win the championship and st.pats are only 16/1?? Surely Clans must be a slightly better bet than st.pats - anyone agree?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 07, 2010, 03:44:10 PM
have to say im a bit surprised thought they should be on similar odds. st pats are a better team than their results to date show and they are handicapped without mc keever and mackin. the bigger odds should suit u boys with a big wagger for the championship or do the odds really matter?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 07, 2010, 03:58:30 PM
Championship odds have to be based on something,majority of the time past events . Saying that they go on league position clans are in a better position and even if they go on last years championship position clans are slightly better imo. Having said that the odds are really irrelevant to me as i wouldn't back any of the two of them to win the championship. What i will say is that if i had a bet as to who would get further (and this will happen as they meet in the first round) i would want to be on the clans. So effectively in betting terms i would have the clans 5/6 and Cullyhanna 6/5 for that first round game. I think the clans are coming on well at the moment and overall have too much pace for Cullyhanna who would certainly be an older more physical side. But as we know this could all change two months down the line. But it will be a tight enough affair. No easy games in the old championship unless you are in the top two ie Pearse Og's and Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 07, 2010, 04:40:54 PM
I think you could well see the Ogs struggling this year and an early enough exit is on the cards. (Just a hunch)

I agree that bookies odds dont matter one bit once two teams cross the white lines however the fact that the clans are so outrageously priced must reflect a perception that they are no hopers. This isnt really accurate and although I dont beleive them strong enough to win the championship this year, they are showing signs of a very quiclky developing team.

Outside of Cross and for arguemnts sake the Ogs - there is no other team that you could say would definitley beat the clans in a one off game, therefore if they keep their heads down and play the way the can and get some luck with the draw it wouldnt be inconceivable to see them line out in the county final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 07, 2010, 04:50:24 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 07, 2010, 04:40:54 PM
I think you could well see the Ogs struggling this year and an early enough exit is on the cards. (Just a hunch)

I agree that bookies odds dont matter one bit once two teams cross the white lines however the fact that the clans are so outrageously priced must reflect a perception that they are no hopers. This isnt really accurate and although I dont beleive them strong enough to win the championship this year, they are showing signs of a very quiclky developing team.

Outside of Cross and for arguemnts sake the Ogs - there is no other team that you could say would definitley beat the clans in a one off game, therefore if they keep their heads down and play the way the can and get some luck with the draw it wouldnt be inconceivable to see them line out in the county final.

All of a sudden you're a Clans man now, before you were just a GAA man from Lurgan (area) now you ball bag is blue FFS. They're 25/1 cause the bookies don't rate them saan, get your money out and do them EW so if they get to the final your quids in
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 07, 2010, 05:16:39 PM
Ive been converted! I had my balls painted blue and have had lessons in cockyness and roaring at refs so that means Im def a bluenose! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 07, 2010, 05:23:34 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 07, 2010, 05:16:39 PM
Ive been converted! I had my balls painted blue and have had lessons in cockyness and roaring at refs so that means Im def a bluenose! ;D ;D

Good man, r u related to Monza then :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lucan on June 07, 2010, 08:44:47 PM
its amazing. no comment within armagh on total humiliation of county team. why not at least blame paddy o rourke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 07, 2010, 09:28:07 PM
Quote from: lucan on June 07, 2010, 08:44:47 PM
its amazing. no comment within armagh on total humiliation of county team. why not at least blame paddy o rourke.

Why don't you piss off to the main gaa section. As the title of this thread suggests: 'Armagh CLUB football and hurling'. Your just on the windup
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 07, 2010, 10:09:21 PM
Armagh Club Fixtures for w/e Sunday 13 June 2010

Monday 7 June
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
Clonmore v Middletown (Oliver Hearty)

Wednesday 9 June
B' Championship – 1st Round Replay (7.30)
Annaghmore v Crossmaglen (Tony O'Hare)
(Extra time, if required)

ACL – Div. I (7.30)
St Patrick's v Pearse Og (Raymond Watters)

All-County 'B' League

Section A (7.30)
Clann Eireann v Clan na Gael (Mickey Leonard)
Wolfe Tone v St Paul's (Noel Martin)
Tir na nÓg v Maghery (Seamus O'Neill)
Sarsfields v St Peter's (Rory Robinson)

Section B (7.30)
Collegeland v Armagh Harps (Kevin McNeice)
Ballyhegan v An Port Mor (Ger Devlin)

Section C (7.30)
Madden v Keady (Paudie Hughes)
Granemore v St Michael's (Jim Slevin)
Ballymacnab v Middletown (Oliver Hearty)

Section D (7.30)
Mullaghbawn v St Patrick's (Stephen McKinley)
Carrickcruppen v Dromintee (Dessie McDonnell)
Silverbridge v Culloville (Kevin Murtagh)

Friday 11 June
ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Armagh Harps v Clann Eireann (Oliver Hearty)

ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Corrinshego v Grange (Noel Martin)

Saturday 12 June
ACL – Div. I (8.00)
Dromintee v Crossmaglen (Ger Devlin)

Sunday 13 June
ACL – Div. I (2.00)
Sarsfields v Killeavy (Gary Smith)
Maghery v Culloville (Kevin McNeice)
Carrickcruppen v Whitecross (Ronan Quigley)
Mullaghawn v Clan na Gael (Noel Martin)

ACL – Div. II (2.00)
Clonmore v Ballymacnab (Damian McConville)
Armagh Harps v Wolfe Tone (Kevin Murtagh)
Ballyhegan v Tir na nÓg (Kevin Gallogly)
Madden v Clann Eireann (Jimmy McKee)
St Michael's v Keady (Stephen McKinley)
Silverbridge v St Peter's (Stephen Murray)

ACL – Div. III (2.00)
Collegeland v Shane O'Neill's (Rory Robinson)
Eire Og v An Port Mor (Paudie Hughes)
Annaghmore v Belleek (Barney Henry)
Lissummon v Clonmore (Jim Lynch)
Middletown v Forkhill (Eamon Nugent)
Tullysaran v St Paul's (Joe Murtagh)

ACL – Div. IV (2.00)
Mullabrack v St Patrick's II (Paul Boylan)
Killeavy II v O'Hanlon's (Vincent O'Neill)
Derrynoose v Grange (Keith Smith)
Phelim Brady's v Clady (Seamus O'Neill)
Corrinshego v Killean (Patrick Duffy)

http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/armagh-club-fixtures-w-e-sunday-13-june-2010-a-523/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 08, 2010, 10:48:55 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 07, 2010, 04:40:54 PM
I think you could well see the Ogs struggling this year and an early enough exit is on the cards. (Just a hunch)

I agree that bookies odds dont matter one bit once two teams cross the white lines however the fact that the clans are so outrageously priced must reflect a perception that they are no hopers. This isnt really accurate and although I dont beleive them strong enough to win the championship this year, they are showing signs of a very quiclky developing team.

Outside of Cross and for arguemnts sake the Ogs - there is no other team that you could say would definitley beat the clans in a one off game, therefore if they keep their heads down and play the way the can and get some luck with the draw it wouldnt be inconceivable to see them line out in the county final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 08, 2010, 11:03:05 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 07, 2010, 04:40:54 PM
I think you could well see the Ogs struggling this year and an early enough exit is on the cards. (Just a hunch)

I agree that bookies odds dont matter one bit once two teams cross the white lines however the fact that the clans are so outrageously priced must reflect a perception that they are no hopers. This isnt really accurate and although I dont beleive them strong enough to win the championship this year, they are showing signs of a very quiclky developing team.

Outside of Cross and for arguemnts sake the Ogs - there is no other team that you could say would definitley beat the clans in a one off game, therefore if they keep their heads down and play the way the can and get some luck with the draw it wouldnt be inconceivable to see them line out in the county final.
i think that the ogs will be in a strong position to challenge for the title once again. don't forget so far this season they have played almost all of their games without 4 county players and have had 6/7 additional players injured. most of the injuries are starting to clear up and most of the players will be back for selection by the end of the month. also the manager will be ensuring that the team doesnt peak too soon but are fresh and ready for august. theres no point peaking now when the championship isnt to august. it has also given him an chance to assess new players for back-up. the league is only for trials and survival, no one can remember previous league winners. as for the clans they are on a roll but they will take a number of years before they will be in a position to challenge for the championship with the gaps left by marsden and o hagan and the production line at underage level isnt very strong yet, would u not agree.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on June 08, 2010, 11:47:38 AM

Current league form is completely irrelevent to the championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BNAB10 on June 08, 2010, 12:26:04 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 07, 2010, 10:09:21 PM
Armagh Club Fixtures for w/e Sunday 13 June 2010

Monday 7 June
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
Clonmore v Middletown (Oliver Hearty)

Wednesday 9 June
B' Championship – 1st Round Replay (7.30)
Annaghmore v Crossmaglen (Tony O'Hare)
(Extra time, if required)

ACL – Div. I (7.30)
St Patrick's v Pearse Og (Raymond Watters)

All-County 'B' League

Section A (7.30)
Clann Eireann v Clan na Gael (Mickey Leonard)
Wolfe Tone v St Paul's (Noel Martin)
Tir na nÓg v Maghery (Seamus O'Neill)
Sarsfields v St Peter's (Rory Robinson)

Section B (7.30)
Collegeland v Armagh Harps (Kevin McNeice)
Ballyhegan v An Port Mor (Ger Devlin)

Section C (7.30)
Madden v Keady (Paudie Hughes)
Granemore v St Michael's (Jim Slevin)
Ballymacnab v Middletown (Oliver Hearty)

Section D (7.30)
Mullaghbawn v St Patrick's (Stephen McKinley)
Carrickcruppen v Dromintee (Dessie McDonnell)
Silverbridge v Culloville (Kevin Murtagh)

Friday 11 June
ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Armagh Harps v Clann Eireann (Oliver Hearty)

ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Corrinshego v Grange (Noel Martin)

Saturday 12 June
ACL – Div. I (8.00)
Dromintee v Crossmaglen (Ger Devlin)

Sunday 13 June
ACL – Div. I (2.00)
Sarsfields v Killeavy (Gary Smith)
Maghery v Culloville (Kevin McNeice)
Carrickcruppen v Whitecross (Ronan Quigley)
Mullaghawn v Clan na Gael (Noel Martin)

ACL – Div. II (2.00)
Clonmore v Ballymacnab (Damian McConville)
Armagh Harps v Wolfe Tone (Kevin Murtagh)
Ballyhegan v Tir na nÓg (Kevin Gallogly)
Madden v Clann Eireann (Jimmy McKee)
St Michael's v Keady (Stephen McKinley)
Silverbridge v St Peter's (Stephen Murray)

ACL – Div. III (2.00)
Collegeland v Shane O'Neill's (Rory Robinson)
Eire Og v An Port Mor (Paudie Hughes)
Annaghmore v Belleek (Barney Henry)
Lissummon v Clonmore (Jim Lynch)
Middletown v Forkhill (Eamon Nugent)
Tullysaran v St Paul's (Joe Murtagh)

ACL – Div. IV (2.00)
Mullabrack v St Patrick's II (Paul Boylan)
Killeavy II v O'Hanlon's (Vincent O'Neill)
Derrynoose v Grange (Keith Smith)
Phelim Brady's v Clady (Seamus O'Neill)
Corrinshego v Killean (Patrick Duffy)

http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/armagh-club-fixtures-w-e-sunday-13-june-2010-a-523/


it's granemore v ballymacnab in division 2 on sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 08, 2010, 12:32:40 PM
I personally believe (with Ronan Clarke fit) that the Og's at 3/1 is the value bet for the championship, they now know they can beat Cross and with that belief i believe they can do it. I know the Cross will be fired up this year and will want their crown back but deep in the back of their minds they know the Og's can take them and for me the Og's have the better players (slightly).

As for the Clans, they have some smashing young lads coming thru and majority of them have the right attitude. I believe this year may be too soon for them but in the next 2-3 years i will expect them to be up there challenging again where they belong. The county needs 4-5 genuine contenders for the championship, for 13 years it was just Cross now we have the Og's up there too but to have the likes of Clans, Harps and maybe Dromintee also genuine contenders would be fantastic for the competition.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 08, 2010, 12:54:34 PM
I would agree with you there and lets hope it happens but it will take serious committment from players to get to the top as i have witnessed for the last number of years. have to say clans have some good young players as well as the harps but they need to stay focused over the next few years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 08, 2010, 01:11:18 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 08, 2010, 12:32:40 PM
I personally believe (with Ronan Clarke fit) that the Og's at 3/1 is the value bet for the championship, they now know they can beat Cross and with that belief i believe they can do it. I know the Cross will be fired up this year and will want their crown back but deep in the back of their minds they know the Og's can take them and for me the Og's have the better players (slightly).

As for the Clans, they have some smashing young lads coming thru and majority of them have the right attitude. I believe this year may be too soon for them but in the next 2-3 years i will expect them to be up there challenging again where they belong. The county needs 4-5 genuine contenders for the championship, for 13 years it was just Cross now we have the Og's up there too but to have the likes of Clans, Harps and maybe Dromintee also genuine contenders would be fantastic for the competition.

Clarke will play no club championship football this year if the reports on his injury are accuarte.  Cross are coasting victories at the minute(bar the St Pat's one) and from what I can gather are playing good football.  Ogs were worthy winners last year but I think you may underestimate the impact of a defeat like that one can have on the Cross psyche.  Bookies are rarely wrong so by placing them as favourites I think they are right.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 08, 2010, 01:21:19 PM
I do think Cross will win it and I dont believe the Ogs will be the nearest challengers. Maybe winning one last year will do their lads for a couple of years. I also sense that Clarke will not be back this year, at least hel not be back firing on all cylinders.(Think hes lost interest)

Also I cant believe that people are still talking about Bumpy and Marsden - they retired 2 full years ago and the team has since moved on tremendously! They are gone so forget about them and there is no 'huge gap' in the Clans team. They have good young players in most positions and have a few good options on the bench as well. The only thing holding them back at the minute is inconsistnecy which stems from inexperience. But that will come, just watch....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 08, 2010, 02:18:15 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 08, 2010, 01:21:19 PM
I do think Cross will win it and I dont believe the Ogs will be the nearest challengers. Maybe winning one last year will do their lads for a couple of years. I also sense that Clarke will not be back this year, at least hel not be back firing on all cylinders.(Think hes lost interest)

Also I cant believe that people are still talking about Bumpy and Marsden - they retired 2 full years ago and the team has since moved on tremendously! They are gone so forget about them and there is no 'huge gap' in the Clans team. They have good young players in most positions and have a few good options on the bench as well. The only thing holding them back at the minute is inconsistnecy which stems from inexperience. But that will come, just watch....

And pray tell me how you've come to this conclusion?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 08, 2010, 02:26:51 PM
 :D :D :D His Achilles doesn't look interested to me (laughing at Tam's post not RC injury)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 08, 2010, 02:28:29 PM
Its not a conclusion its just an opinion - think he has lost some motivation. Think about it hes been on the go all year round for 11 years. Hes won the all-ireland,an all star and a county championship. Maybe psychologically hes taken a break. It happens, sometimes players hunger fluctuates slightly for a while before they rediscover their passion etc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on June 08, 2010, 03:31:09 PM
i agree with duffleking. league form at the minute has no bearing whatsoever on championship. teams who are full tilt now will burn themselves out before the championship even begins and so i would assume that any teams who have aspirations of winning the championship will have their training tailored to peak in august.

in my opinion cross probably deserve the favourites tag but to have ogs at 3-1 is some bet. granemore, harps and dromintee would be good each way bets 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 08, 2010, 03:43:17 PM
what a load of crap to say clarke has lost motivation at 27 years old. he has a bad injury which has not responded because pressure to have him playing for armagh too soon. he has now accepted that he needs 4 weeks complete rest and he will back in trainin for early july and is lookin forward to the ogs championship date in august when u will see a fresh determined clarke wanting to go one further this year as club captain. motivation u want to hear him at the training sessions. watch this space. of course cross will be favourites but ogs will want to meet them again and it would be some battle. ive u cant talk about motivation when someones injured and u dont have the facts. >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 08, 2010, 03:54:32 PM
I agree - but likewise you dont know whats going on in his head any more than I do saan. Its easy to roar and shout at training sessions - even shit players can do that!! Anyway I said it was an opinion not a fact.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on June 08, 2010, 08:43:25 PM
You agree?? What too?? the fact he called your opinion a load of crap, making lots of sense today, wum
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 08, 2010, 10:28:41 PM
Read the posts you idiot I agreed that I dont have all the facts. I suppose its hard for yous muckmen to read considering in primary school yous were taught how to smuggle diesel instead of basic education!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 09, 2010, 12:41:02 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 08, 2010, 10:28:41 PM
Read the posts you idiot I agreed that I dont have all the facts. I suppose its hard for yous muckmen to read considering in primary school yous were taught how to smuggle diesel instead of basic education!
have a life big man, at that rate of going yous would all be be monks brewing buckfast. as for intelligence i take it the local lurgan college is going well or should i say secondary school. listen to ur club men on the board who try to be balanced in their reviews. I bet u wouldn't mind having clarkie with the clans never mind what u say he still is and will prove to one of the best in ireland, if only u had his medals.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 09, 2010, 01:13:12 PM
This wasnt a character assasination you twits - its nothing personal against Ronan (Whom I know personally) its a simple opinion of mine that his motivation is fluctuating slightly. Stop taking things so personally its only a f**king opinion. Are yous two in love with him or something!!!

Its nothing to do with his medals, successess, ability or the size of his c**k. All players go through periods of stalemness and burnout particularly those at the elite level.

P.S I hope I didnt turn you guys on too much by mentioning his c**k. If I did im sorry.....

I hope thats 'balanced' enough for yous! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 09, 2010, 04:56:57 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 09, 2010, 01:13:12 PM
This wasnt a character assasination you twits - its nothing personal against Ronan (Whom I know personally) its a simple opinion of mine that his motivation is fluctuating slightly. Stop taking things so personally its only a f**king opinion. Are yous two in love with him or something!!!

Its nothing to do with his medals, successess, ability or the size of his c**k. All players go through periods of stalemness and burnout particularly those at the elite level.

P.S I hope I didnt turn you guys on too much by mentioning his c**k. If I did im sorry.....

I hope thats 'balanced' enough for yous! ;D
I think this comment has showed ur true childish back ground. With comments, quotes and words like above its not hard to work out were u come from and the fact that u obviously attended a " christian brothers school or are a former alter boy". Please go to the x rated channels and leave football commentary to us. Have u enjoyed ur day at home watching porno,making childish comments and drinking buckfast. ;) do u sign on a monday or tuesday in the dhss. I dont ronan would want to know u personally.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 09, 2010, 06:47:58 PM
Drinking buckfast and watching porn gets my vote anyday!! What are you a queer?? You afraid of porn son? And I wouldnt label the dribble you come out with 'football commentary' - your prob one of these dicks that never plays the thing judging by the fact that you have your g-string in a twist cause I gave a less than angelic comment about a county player!

If you cant handle a bit of banter or a different opinion then f**k off somehwere else and bore someone else to death with your dribble, sorry 'commentary'.

P.S - I sign on on  Monday at 3.15 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on June 09, 2010, 07:29:03 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 07, 2010, 04:50:24 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 07, 2010, 04:40:54 PM
I think you could well see the Ogs struggling this year and an early enough exit is on the cards. (Just a hunch)

I agree that bookies odds dont matter one bit once two teams cross the white lines however the fact that the clans are so outrageously priced must reflect a perception that they are no hopers. This isnt really accurate and although I dont beleive them strong enough to win the championship this year, they are showing signs of a very quiclky developing team.

Outside of Cross and for arguemnts sake the Ogs - there is no other team that you could say would definitley beat the clans in a one off game, therefore if they keep their heads down and play the way the can and get some luck with the draw it wouldnt be inconceivable to see them line out in the county final.

All of a sudden you're a Clans man now, before you were just a GAA man from Lurgan (area) now you ball bag is blue FFS. They're 25/1 cause the bookies don't rate them saan, get your money out and do them EW so if they get to the final your quids in

Can't back each way in the county championships. Apart from Dublin I think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 09, 2010, 09:10:24 PM
You sure? Think Tommy French takes each way bets on club championship...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on June 09, 2010, 09:39:24 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 09, 2010, 09:10:24 PM
You sure? Think Tommy French takes each way bets on club championship...

Definitely doesn't, 100%, win only.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 09, 2010, 09:54:54 PM
St Pat's 1-11 Pearse Ógs 1-9  :)

Great spirited win over the county champions to lift us off the bottom of the table. Terrible start - we were 1-2 down after 6 minutes but fought back well to be level at half-time. Led by 2 points with about 10 to go but the Ógs took the game over a bit and were 1 up before a goalkeeping error handed us a goal which won the game. great tough entertaining game of football and we got the bit of luck to win the match that had deserted us all season.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on June 09, 2010, 10:01:30 PM
fair play to cullyhanna tonight they hung in there but i dont honestly know how the ogs didnt win this game. the last 15 minutes was played in cullyhannas half of the field but the ogs kicked wide after wide....easy chances too. ogs were 1 up with 1minute to go and cullyhanna broke up the field. a high ball into the square which ciaran mckinney misjudged and the ball bounced into the net.

good hard hitting game to watch. wouldnt blame mckinney as ogs should have been well ahead at that stage. think cullyhanna will stay up if they show that spirit in every match though. fair play
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 09, 2010, 11:56:12 PM
Very suprising result - fair play to st.pats.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 10, 2010, 08:56:10 AM
with mackin and mc keeve available which i think will be regularily shortly they will beat almost all teams at home if they show the hunger and desire of last night. ogs still should have won the game easily but kicked at least 6 chances wide in the last 10 minutes and got a sucker punch at the end when the referee mr beds who is not up to refereeing senior football wrongly blew a foul against shorty clarke after a great clean catch. a good game for both teams and with a few more players returning from injury and most of the rest due back in the next 2 weeks the ogs will get stronger. only bad point is no 11, o hare is just a dirty player and took away from the spirit of the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 10, 2010, 10:30:51 AM
Has anyone any insight on how the b leagues are going this year? and what were the results from last night...

clans beat Eire Og last night in a re-fixture (not to sure of the exact score)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 10, 2010, 10:32:52 AM
Which O'Hare? I know Liam and he is a very good player. The other brother seems to be a bit of a hallion always leaving digs in. Hitting of the ball and accidently on purpose falling on people on the ground. He is renowned for this and it doesn't surprise me one bit. He is also very selective as to whom he does it on if you get my drift
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 10, 2010, 10:33:31 AM
Score was 3-11 to 1-09 i think
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 10, 2010, 11:00:50 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 10, 2010, 08:56:10 AM
with mackin and mc keeve available which i think will be regularily shortly they will beat almost all teams at home if they show the hunger and desire of last night. ogs still should have won the game easily but kicked at least 6 chances wide in the last 10 minutes and got a sucker punch at the end when the referee mr beds who is not up to refereeing senior football wrongly blew a foul against shorty clarke after a great clean catch. a good game for both teams and with a few more players returning from injury and most of the rest due back in the next 2 weeks the ogs will get stronger. only bad point is no 11, o hare is just a dirty player and took away from the spirit of the game.

Complete Joke!! Even bigger joke is him telling some of our lads he played senior football for Killeavy for 15years... WTF???  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 10, 2010, 11:46:17 AM
Speaking of refs I was at the Clans Harps minor game on Monday where the clans won 18-17 but the ref had it Harps 18-17! After the final whistle protests which in fact involved some Harps ones trying to tell him his mistake (Fair play to the ones beside us too) he decided on a draw.

Not that this was the right thing to do but given what he did later it would at least have been reasonable to give the draw - because when he got away out of everyones road he rang the result in as a Harps win!

Having said that his performance during the game makes this unsurprising. His decisions ruined a good minor game which would have been played in the right spirit and at a very fast pace only for him. Not sure who he was but he was well over weight and couldn even run after the play. I know refs can be scarce and I dont want to start another row about how difficult their job is but this is a joke - Are the county board going to sit back and constantly watch as incompetent officiating ruins the development of our game??

Ill be totally honest, such is my views on the state of refereeing in this county, it wouldnt take a lot to impress me so if a ref was anywhere near close to even trying to do it right I would be happy. So by that you can easily conclude how bad some of these guys are!! >:( >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 10, 2010, 11:57:54 AM
QuoteAre the county board going to sit back and constantly watch as incompetent officiating ruins the development of our game??


Nothing new here saan they have been sitting back watching it for years and these guys are still being permitted to ref games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 10, 2010, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 10, 2010, 10:32:52 AM
Which O'Hare? I know Liam and he is a very good player. The other brother seems to be a bit of a hallion always leaving digs in. Hitting of the ball and accidently on purpose falling on people on the ground. He is renowned for this and it doesn't surprise me one bit. He is also very selective as to whom he does it on if you get my drift

No. 11 was Liam.

Sent off after two yellow cards, both of which should have been straight reds.  The first was a kick on one of our lads when he was on the ground, right in front of the ref.  The second was when one of our forwards were running through, he caught him clean in the face with his elbow.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on June 10, 2010, 12:59:03 PM
Winsamsoon, I see you neglected to answer me in the Armagh v Monaghan thread. Maybe the discussion is more relevant now in this thread so I'll post it again.


Quote from: winsamsoon on June 09, 2010, 02:06:31 PM
Yes main i am a clansman

on the issue of Dyas i am going to make this my last post as i don't want to come across as slating the lad.

My original point of this debate centred on the fact that there are 7-8 players in Armagh that would do a better job than some of the lads on the current panel. There are footballers in Armagh that have footballing talent but are not neccessarily big men and they are being overlooked because they don't fit into the Armagh machine that has existed in the last decade.

I am a firm believer that players must prove themselves, they shouldn't be selected on name, reputation or events that have occured maybe 5 or 6 years ago. There have been players on the Armagh squad that have been brought in on these pretences. If i were running a county team i would select the players who are performing at present irregardless of size or any other factor. Players should have to prove themselves and if they are doing a job for theri club they should get a chance at county level.

Part of the problem within Armagh is that the county players don't get enough club football. There are teams that are going without county players for two to three week stretches and this is unacceptable. Other counties are having county players playing for their clubs 4 or 5 nights prior to championship games. Sure you run the risk of injury but that is the chance you take. At the same time all players are getting proper game time and the overall standard is increasing. I stick by my criticism of the selection processes in Armagh.

I've been informed that Dyas actually was on the panel and made his championship debut against Derry in 2007 before he went to Australia.

You make many sweeping statements about the standard of the current Armagh squad. Care to back up your argument with specifics?

Who are the 7-8 players in the county that should be on the panel? And who are the current Armagh squad members who are not there on merit that should be replaced?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on June 10, 2010, 01:03:10 PM
UMHC Semi Final - Sun 13.06.10
Armagh v Down
@ Casement Park, 1 30pm

All support welcome!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 10, 2010, 02:24:03 PM
unfortunately wont be much of a crowd now that london are not playin down in the senior game, but that might suit armagh minors as they wouldnt be used to playing in front of a big crowd?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 10, 2010, 02:27:56 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 10, 2010, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 10, 2010, 10:32:52 AM
Which O'Hare? I know Liam and he is a very good player. The other brother seems to be a bit of a hallion always leaving digs in. Hitting of the ball and accidently on purpose falling on people on the ground. He is renowned for this and it doesn't surprise me one bit. He is also very selective as to whom he does it on if you get my drift

No. 11 was Liam.

Sent off after two yellow cards, both of which should have been straight reds.  The first was a kick on one of our lads when he was on the ground, right in front of the ref.  The second was when one of our forwards were running through, he caught him clean in the face with his elbow.
what did expect with a second rate referee who is easily intimidated and doesnt know the rules.  el did o hare not also elbow chris rafferty when both fell to the ground. a complete thug but he will get his rewards some day on the field as most clubs are aware of his thuggish play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 10, 2010, 03:00:59 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 10, 2010, 02:27:56 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 10, 2010, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 10, 2010, 10:32:52 AM
Which O'Hare? I know Liam and he is a very good player. The other brother seems to be a bit of a hallion always leaving digs in. Hitting of the ball and accidently on purpose falling on people on the ground. He is renowned for this and it doesn't surprise me one bit. He is also very selective as to whom he does it on if you get my drift

No. 11 was Liam.

Sent off after two yellow cards, both of which should have been straight reds.  The first was a kick on one of our lads when he was on the ground, right in front of the ref.  The second was when one of our forwards were running through, he caught him clean in the face with his elbow.
what did expect with a second rate referee who is easily intimidated and doesnt know the rules.  el did o hare not also elbow chris rafferty when both fell to the ground. a complete thug but he will get his rewards some day on the field as most clubs are aware of his thuggish play.

Our CHB marked Liam last year in Cullyhanna and he didn't try any hitting or off the ball stuff with him, although this isn't the first time i've heard about him throwing his weight about
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 10, 2010, 07:31:59 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 10, 2010, 02:27:56 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 10, 2010, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 10, 2010, 10:32:52 AM
Which O'Hare? I know Liam and he is a very good player. The other brother seems to be a bit of a hallion always leaving digs in. Hitting of the ball and accidently on purpose falling on people on the ground. He is renowned for this and it doesn't surprise me one bit. He is also very selective as to whom he does it on if you get my drift

No. 11 was Liam.

Sent off after two yellow cards, both of which should have been straight reds.  The first was a kick on one of our lads when he was on the ground, right in front of the ref.  The second was when one of our forwards were running through, he caught him clean in the face with his elbow.
what did expect with a second rate referee who is easily intimidated and doesnt know the rules.  el did o hare not also elbow chris rafferty when both fell to the ground. a complete thug but he will get his rewards some day on the field as most clubs are aware of his thuggish play.

He did. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 10, 2010, 08:37:54 PM
The other brother is worse lads a complete hallion. Sam if you read back a few pages in that thread you will see y I ain't answering that. This thread is for club football lad so it's best kept that way
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 10, 2010, 11:39:36 PM
El cuervo, he did what? 'Got his rewards' or 'elbowed raffo'??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 11, 2010, 08:04:27 AM
Quote from: Hank Everlast on June 10, 2010, 11:39:36 PM
El cuervo, he did what? 'Got his rewards' or 'elbowed raffo'??

Elbowed Raffo.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 11, 2010, 09:45:42 AM
Got this emailed this morning so not sure if it's official but apparently this is the draw for the B Championship

Crossmaglen V Clann Eireann
Sarsfield's V Clan na Gael
Armagh Harps V Grange
Carrickcruppen V Pearse Og
Maghery V St Patrick's
Tullysaran V Middletown
St Paul's V Keady
Eire Og V Tir na nOg
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 11, 2010, 12:10:58 PM
I like the look of that saan ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 11, 2010, 08:36:18 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 10, 2010, 11:46:17 AM
Speaking of refs I was at the Clans Harps minor game on Monday where the clans won 18-17 but the ref had it Harps 18-17! After the final whistle protests which in fact involved some Harps ones trying to tell him his mistake (Fair play to the ones beside us too) he decided on a draw.

Not that this was the right thing to do but given what he did later it would at least have been reasonable to give the draw - because when he got away out of everyones road he rang the result in as a Harps win!

Having said that his performance during the game makes this unsurprising. His decisions ruined a good minor game which would have been played in the right spirit and at a very fast pace only for him. Not sure who he was but he was well over weight and couldn even run after the play. I know refs can be scarce and I dont want to start another row about how difficult their job is but this is a joke - Are the county board going to sit back and constantly watch as incompetent officiating ruins the development of our game??

Ill be totally honest, such is my views on the state of refereeing in this county, it wouldnt take a lot to impress me so if a ref was anywhere near close to even trying to do it right I would be happy. So by that you can easily conclude how bad some of these guys are!! >:( >:(

You say the harps protested in Clans' defence the other night but it didn't look that way in the match report in the observer. Not even a mention of the controversial scoreline
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 11, 2010, 09:49:40 PM
harps seniors lost to clann eireann 2-8 - 2-9 .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Passing_Interest on June 12, 2010, 09:43:39 AM
Not sure what point you are trying to make ogshead.....
Are you saying the Observer got it wrong ?
Are you saying Ivedecided is lying ?
Are you saying the Harps didn't point out the wrong scoreline to the ref ?
Or are you just trying cheap shots across the town cause you've nothing better to be at ?
Have a bit of sense will you before posting nonsense for the sake of a dig at the Harps....
You know there are others things you could be at.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 12, 2010, 01:28:15 PM
Quote from: ogshead on June 11, 2010, 08:36:18 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 10, 2010, 11:46:17 AM
Speaking of refs I was at the Clans Harps minor game on Monday where the clans won 18-17 but the ref had it Harps 18-17! After the final whistle protests which in fact involved some Harps ones trying to tell him his mistake (Fair play to the ones beside us too) he decided on a draw.

Not that this was the right thing to do but given what he did later it would at least have been reasonable to give the draw - because when he got away out of everyones road he rang the result in as a Harps win!

Having said that his performance during the game makes this unsurprising. His decisions ruined a good minor game which would have been played in the right spirit and at a very fast pace only for him. Not sure who he was but he was well over weight and couldn even run after the play. I know refs can be scarce and I dont want to start another row about how difficult their job is but this is a joke - Are the county board going to sit back and constantly watch as incompetent officiating ruins the development of our game??

Ill be totally honest, such is my views on the state of refereeing in this county, it wouldnt take a lot to impress me so if a ref was anywhere near close to even trying to do it right I would be happy. So by that you can easily conclude how bad some of these guys are!! >:( >:(

You say the harps protested in Clans' defence the other night but it didn't look that way in the match report in the observer. Not even a mention of the controversial scoreline


Ill give you nothing for that pal it wasnt necessarily those people that were writing for the paper!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 12, 2010, 04:32:16 PM
Quote from: Passing_Interest on June 12, 2010, 09:43:39 AM
Not sure what point you are trying to make ogshead.....
Are you saying the Observer got it wrong ?
Are you saying Ivedecided is lying ?
Are you saying the Harps didn't point out the wrong scoreline to the ref ?
Or are you just trying cheap shots across the town cause you've nothing better to be at ?
Have a bit of sense will you before posting nonsense for the sake of a dig at the Harps....
You know there are others things you could be at.

Dry your eyes, of course it was a dig at the Harps!! Don't know why your being so sensitive, slagging off your rivals is all part of the game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 12, 2010, 05:20:15 PM
correct!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Passing_Interest on June 12, 2010, 08:47:27 PM
Sorry lads.
Didn't realise it was a slag.
My mistake.
Keep them coming.....the craic's good.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 12, 2010, 09:55:12 PM
Cross beat dromintee by a point tonight in a high scoring game. 2-12 to 2-11 ( I think ).
Francie scored our second goal, his first ever as far as i can remember.
Jamie clarke scored the winning point.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on June 12, 2010, 10:57:26 PM
Quote from: crossfire on June 12, 2010, 09:55:12 PM
Cross beat dromintee by a point tonight in a high scoring game. 2-12 to 2-11 ( I think ).
Francie scored our second goal, his first ever as far as i can remember.
Jamie clarke scored the winning point.
final score was 2.13 to 1.14...i feel it was or best performance however disipline is a problem as countless frees were moved forward into easier positions...some excellent scores from both sides in what was an entertaining game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 12, 2010, 11:01:41 PM
clans for the championship. Cert!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on June 13, 2010, 08:35:14 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 12, 2010, 11:01:41 PM
clans for the championship. Cert!!

B championship? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on June 13, 2010, 02:07:28 PM
Armagh minor hurlers up 0-7 to 0-4 against Down ht.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on June 13, 2010, 02:48:37 PM
Armagh minor hurlers into the Ulster final. Final score Armagh 0-13 0-9 Down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: oman on June 13, 2010, 04:47:06 PM
Great Result today. well done to all involved.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 13, 2010, 05:07:07 PM
Mullabawn 0-14 Clans 1-8

Madden 0-11 Clann Eireann 0-13
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on June 13, 2010, 05:09:38 PM
How'd keady do?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on June 13, 2010, 05:29:12 PM
maghery 1-12 cullaville 0-09 good football display from maghery however game was marred at the end when time was nearly up cullaville chb drew out with the boot badly hurting magherys co minor aideen forker then a scuffle broke out things just got settle when match about 2 restart another very cowrdly act from a cullaville man resulted in maghery lad kevin nugent being takin to hospital in an ambulance with suspected broken jaw. a real blow 2 the lad who was outstanding on the day for us and wish him a speedy recovery. apart from these 2 bad incidents in injury time it was a good game played the way it should and wasnt 1 dirty tackle the whole game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on June 13, 2010, 05:36:04 PM
Quote from: crossfire on June 12, 2010, 09:55:12 PM
Cross beat dromintee by a point tonight in a high scoring game. 2-12 to 2-11 ( I think ).
Francie scored our second goal, his first ever as far as i can remember.
Jamie clarke scored the winning point.

;D ;D ;D ;D

Fair play to Francie, Dromintee cant buy a win agin Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 13, 2010, 05:41:25 PM
St Patrick's 2-12 Mullabrack 2-4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on June 13, 2010, 05:44:58 PM
Heard a whisper that Kieran McKeever has walked out of the Armagh panel.

Anyone else hear this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 13, 2010, 07:20:54 PM
Good result alright well done lads. Clans beat by 3 by mullaghbawn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 13, 2010, 07:22:54 PM
Culloville tramps. Renowned for ill discipline
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JMohan on June 13, 2010, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: Seany on June 13, 2010, 05:44:58 PM
Heard a whisper that Kieran McKeever has walked out of the Armagh panel.

Anyone else hear this?

Wouldn't be the first (threatened, then reversed) one this year ...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 13, 2010, 07:35:41 PM
Quote from: ardmhaca08 on June 13, 2010, 05:09:38 PM
How'd keady do?

Keady beaat newtown by a point

Nab 1 -08
Granemore 0-08
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 13, 2010, 08:03:18 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 13, 2010, 07:22:54 PM
Culloville tramps. Renowned for ill discipline
when are the county board going to take some action against this club  :-\ from reports this isnt the first time there have been  incidents involving this club already this season  >:( .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 13, 2010, 08:07:51 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on June 13, 2010, 07:35:41 PM


Nab 1 -08
Granemore 0-08
poor enough game with the nab deserving winners on the day against a depleted granemore side for whom kieran toner only appeared for the 2 nd half .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 13, 2010, 08:20:32 PM
Quote from: torres on June 13, 2010, 08:07:51 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on June 13, 2010, 07:35:41 PM


Nab 1 -08
Granemore 0-08
poor enough game with the nab deserving winners on the day against a depleted granemore side for whom kieran toner only appeared for the 2 nd half .

Kieran Toner was playing the full match torres, full back the 1st half and then moved out midfield 2nd half,

who was missing from Granemore, they seemed to be at full strength
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 13, 2010, 09:35:43 PM
Quote from: torres on June 13, 2010, 08:03:18 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 13, 2010, 07:22:54 PM
Culloville tramps. Renowned for ill discipline
when are the county board going to take some action against this club  :-\ from reports this isnt the first time there have been  incidents involving this club already this season  >:( .
Have to say I agree, the Cullies have a bad rep, but these boys are much worse, got away with murder last time we were up there.  And they are always Judasing - no straight up fighting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 13, 2010, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on June 13, 2010, 08:20:32 PM
Quote from: torres on June 13, 2010, 08:07:51 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on June 13, 2010, 07:35:41 PM


Nab 1 -08
Granemore 0-08
poor enough game with the nab deserving winners on the day against a depleted granemore side for whom kieran toner only appeared for the 2 nd half .

Kieran Toner was playing the full match torres, full back the 1st half and then moved out midfield 2nd half,

who was missing from Granemore, they seemed to be at full strength
apoligies onion bag , meant to add only appeared AT MIDFIELD for the 2 nd half , regular full back d hughes in USA, corner back d rafferty suspended from last weeks match v harps , k doyle  on holidays , p mc birney injured , f conroy injured . add to that k hughes , t mc clelland , b toner missing from last season , granemore are really stretched at the moment . but the nab deserving winners on the day .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 14, 2010, 08:47:39 AM
Quote from: stew on June 13, 2010, 05:36:04 PM
Quote from: crossfire on June 12, 2010, 09:55:12 PM
Cross beat dromintee by a point tonight in a high scoring game. 2-12 to 2-11 ( I think ).
Francie scored our second goal, his first ever as far as i can remember.
Jamie clarke scored the winning point.

;D ;D ;D ;D

Fair play to Francie, Dromintee cant buy a win agin Cross.
when did you become a cross supporter? or are cross ur 1st division team ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 14, 2010, 08:48:49 AM
Quote from: Seany on June 13, 2010, 05:44:58 PM
Heard a whisper that Kieran McKeever has walked out of the Armagh panel.

Anyone else hear this?

Have you not posted enough "whispers" on this board for one year? Bit strange that a 42 year old Derryman leaving an Armagh county panel should be big news.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 14, 2010, 09:50:57 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on June 13, 2010, 05:07:07 PM
Mullabawn 0-14 Clans 1-8

Madden 0-11 Clann Eireann 0-13
dont think clans supporters seen that one coming, top 3 now a bit harder?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 14, 2010, 10:34:37 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 14, 2010, 09:50:57 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on June 13, 2010, 05:07:07 PM
Mullabawn 0-14 Clans 1-8

Madden 0-11 Clann Eireann 0-13
dont think clans supporters seen that one coming, top 3 now a bit harder?

Clans had won 3 out of their last 4 games until Mullaghbawn yesterday and that was just a we reminder for us that we're not as good as we thought and also what a bit of desire and hunger from a team not as good as ourselves can achieve.

On the Maghery game, Culloville had 5 men sent off in their first 2 games alone, it would be interesting to find out after 9 or 10 games how many players have got the line for them and what the county board will do about it, i have experienced some of their antics recently but fortunately i was able to dish out more than i got first
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on June 14, 2010, 11:02:43 AM
Fantastic weekend for Armagh Hurling, is there any video links of both games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 14, 2010, 11:51:18 AM
Top 3 still realistic as dromintee and ogs were both beaten also. Prob the Clans worst performance of the season (Except for cross game) - Mullaghbawn wanted the points more and deserved to get them. Think Clans lads thought it was only a matter of turning up. Cant afford to have that attitude in this league as any team can beat any other. Dissapointing day however may prove to be a wake up call which would at east be one positive out of it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 14, 2010, 01:46:25 PM
Firstly i don't think all clans supporters are of the opinion that they will finish in the top 3. Personally i don't think they will but i will happy with 4, 5 or 6th. If we finish in and around these position comfortably ie not fighting for scraps at the end to avoid relegation this will be an improvement from last year. I will say it again Cross and Og's are a cut above the rest there is nothing but a kick of the ball in it on any given day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 14, 2010, 03:06:34 PM
That defeat was probably a blessing in disguise as there was a bit of complacency creeping into the squad. Have to say the refereeing left a lot to be desired as he favoured them throughout (but then again that is to be expected in this county) though that was not what cost us the game as Mullabawn were far more fired up for it anyway. That win will have eased Mullabawn's relegation worries slightly and with Killeavy & Sarsfields drawing they still look the two most likely teams to make the drop. At the other end Cross more or less have things wrapped up already! Think we have Cruppen next week, sick of the sight of them and I'm sure the feeling is mutual, 3rd time meeting them since the start of the league  :-X
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 14, 2010, 03:13:54 PM
Cruppen game becomes a must win now for blues - if we were to get a few wins in next few weeks our goal of top 3 finish will be back on however if we dont we could be in a relegation battle!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on June 14, 2010, 04:45:18 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 14, 2010, 03:13:54 PM
Cruppen game becomes a must win now for blues - if we were to get a few wins in next few weeks our goal of top 3 finish will be back on however if we dont we could be in a relegation battle!
cruppen are thinking the same ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 14, 2010, 05:17:01 PM
Absolutely disgraceful this . Where there any Culloville players sent off for the incident? and where was the match at? It's only a matter of time before someone is killed as a result of one of these cowardly acts and it needs stamped out. I would nearly say the lad only got it because he was giving the tr**p he was marking a headlight. Hope the young lad gets over this ok.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 14, 2010, 05:18:01 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 14, 2010, 04:59:54 PM
I hear that young Nugent lad got an awful doing in Culloville. He was struck from behind and knocked out. There was blood everywhere. Ambulance men reckon the injuries are of such an extent that they are more consistent with an elbow rather than a thump to the face. Broken jaw and a broken bone in his chin and a number of missing teeth. He's going for an operation today.  He's only 19 years of age, ironically the same number as his alleged attacker. We all wish him well and I hope he sues the coward who attacked him. There's nothing sporting about a cowardly unprovoked attack from behind on an unsuspecting youngster

I know it's not the way to handle it but i'm very surprised the Maghery men let that go, those are the type of incidents that usually spark off a free for all. It's a pity the Culloville coward didn't get a taste of his own medicine.

Hope the young Maghery cub makes a full and speedy recovery
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 14, 2010, 05:19:01 PM
Agreed - Culloville will want to watch themselves as these incidents are becoming quite frequent!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 14, 2010, 07:52:26 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 14, 2010, 05:19:01 PM
Agreed - Culloville will want to watch themselves as these incidents are becoming quite frequent!
they should be banned for the rest of the season plus championship , something along those lines should be the  deterdent for  they,re thuggary ways  >:(.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 14, 2010, 08:30:27 PM
Heard the full extent of that lad's injuries and its nothing short of a disgrace, and nor is it surprising that Culloville were the guilty party. I'm all for hard hitting football and know that at times melees can break out, but there is no excusing a young player getting the head pulled off him.

I also hear the No.19 promptly jumped into his car and cleared off, spineless ****. County board should act accordingly, the ref should have the player's name and if he himself is not punished then Culloville should face a hefty sanction.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 14, 2010, 09:07:04 PM
On the incident in the Culloville/Maghery game, pure cowardly spineless bastard. If you were on the same team as the attacker would you not him a slap yourself, team mate or not.

On another note I would like to congratulate Armagh minor hurlers. I hope they give the final a good rattle. These lads have done the county proud this year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on June 14, 2010, 09:47:36 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 14, 2010, 05:18:01 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 14, 2010, 04:59:54 PM
I hear that young Nugent lad got an awful doing in Culloville. He was struck from behind and knocked out. There was blood everywhere. Ambulance men reckon the injuries are of such an extent that they are more consistent with an elbow rather than a thump to the face. Broken jaw and a broken bone in his chin and a number of missing teeth. He's going for an operation today.  He's only 19 years of age, ironically the same number as his alleged attacker. We all wish him well and I hope he sues the coward who attacked him. There's nothing sporting about a cowardly unprovoked attack from behind on an unsuspecting youngster

I know it's not the way to handle it but i'm very surprised the Maghery men let that go, those are the type of incidents that usually spark off a free for all. It's a pity the Culloville coward didn't get a taste of his own medicine.

Hope the young Maghery cub makes a full and speedy recovery
no 1 was sent off and the coward who done it got offside as soon as he could but the lad was in such bad shape the maghery lads were more worried about his safety than anything really he was that bad it looked like he was shot there was that much blood on the ground his jaw broke in 2 places,chin bone broke and his gum split open along 1 side of his mouth resulting in a few operations in dundonald . the match was in maghery and both the players and management have to take great credit for their behaviour at this time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 14, 2010, 09:52:25 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on June 14, 2010, 09:47:36 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 14, 2010, 05:18:01 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 14, 2010, 04:59:54 PM
I hear that young Nugent lad got an awful doing in Culloville. He was struck from behind and knocked out. There was blood everywhere. Ambulance men reckon the injuries are of such an extent that they are more consistent with an elbow rather than a thump to the face. Broken jaw and a broken bone in his chin and a number of missing teeth. He's going for an operation today.  He's only 19 years of age, ironically the same number as his alleged attacker. We all wish him well and I hope he sues the coward who attacked him. There's nothing sporting about a cowardly unprovoked attack from behind on an unsuspecting youngster

I know it's not the way to handle it but i'm very surprised the Maghery men let that go, those are the type of incidents that usually spark off a free for all. It's a pity the Culloville coward didn't get a taste of his own medicine.

Hope the young Maghery cub makes a full and speedy recovery
no 1 was sent off and the coward who done it got offside as soon as he could but the lad was in such bad shape the maghery lads were more worried about his safety than anything really he was that bad it looked like he was shot there was that much blood on the ground his jaw broke in 2 places,chin bone broke and his gum split open along 1 side of his mouth resulting in a few operations in dundonald . the match was in maghery and both the players and management have to take great credit for their behaviour at this time.
Was all this done with one thump? Surely not?

Good luck to the lad, hopefully will get back on the field soon. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on June 14, 2010, 10:19:48 PM
Wish young Nugent all the best, met him at a wedding recently and the young lad is just football mad, leveled head chap who certainly doesn't need the like of this....I have lost count now the number of incidents that Cullaville have been involved in not only this year but the past few.......County board have to get their finger out here....

Would i be right if other clubs throughout the county feel the same??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on June 14, 2010, 11:43:56 PM
i see Nab v Tones set for Thursday night anybody know why?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Seany on June 15, 2010, 12:02:07 AM
I wonder will they even have the gumption in Culloville to make contact with the lad and express their apologies for what happened.  Probably asking too much from them.  Kevin Nugent had a brilliant year with the monirs last year winning an ALl ireland for his county.  ANd this is his reward.  Typical begrudging jealous bastards we have in this country. 

COunty needs to do what derry did last year on Ballinderry - makie them name the player and if they dont't, throw the book at them,. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 15, 2010, 12:15:27 AM
Id give Culloville the chance to act accordingly first - by making all details of the player and incident available to the county board. If they dont comply then Id throw them out of all senior competitions this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nrico2006 on June 15, 2010, 08:40:18 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on June 14, 2010, 08:30:27 PM
Heard the full extent of that lad's injuries and its nothing short of a disgrace, and nor is it surprising that Culloville were the guilty party. I'm all for hard hitting football and know that at times melees can break out, but there is no excusing a young player getting the head pulled off him.

I also hear the No.19 promptly jumped into his car and cleared off, spineless ****. County board should act accordingly, the ref should have the player's name and if he himself is not punished then Culloville should face a hefty sanction.

It should go further than the County Board.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Alco Pup on June 15, 2010, 09:55:39 AM

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It should go further than the County Board.
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Totally agree.  Its expected that players will pick up the odd injury at matches, but thats unreal.  There cannot possibly be any way that it can be excused or condoned.
Why did the referee not do something about it once the lad was with the paramedics?

The player responsible should never be allowed to grace gaa grounds again.  He is guilty of ABH - if this had happened anywhere other than a football ground, he would have spent the night locked up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 15, 2010, 10:14:01 AM
If I'm totally honest about the whole incident, if that lad was my son I'd be in Cullaville waiting on that thug and give him a taste of his won medicine. I know thats not the right way to approach it but he'll prob get away Scot free and more than likely bumming and blowing to his mates for doing it...Still can't believe the Maghery men let that tr**p out, they should have beaten him senseless or at the very least restrained him and taken him to the cop-shop but he shouldn't have been allowed to get away out of that ground.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on June 15, 2010, 10:54:45 AM
lowest of the low! the lads only 19 and he still had to hit him from behind! f**kin thug! should be suspended for life and i hope maghery or nugent sue the ****! i know we dont want to see fights breaking out in our game but this is one of these incidents where the coward should have been beat senseless! fair play to the maghery lads for not reacting and putting young nugent first!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nrico2006 on June 15, 2010, 11:14:40 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 15, 2010, 10:14:01 AM
If I'm totally honest about the whole incident, if that lad was my son I'd be in Cullaville waiting on that thug and give him a taste of his won medicine. I know thats not the right way to approach it but he'll prob get away Scot free and more than likely bumming and blowing to his mates for doing it...Still can't believe the Maghery men let that tr**p out, they should have beaten him senseless or at the very least restrained him and taken him to the cop-shop but he shouldn't have been allowed to get away out of that ground.

Well said, I really hope the culprit is shopped to the peelers, fed up with tr**ps thinking that they can do what they want on a pitch and face no consequences bar the odd suspension. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on June 15, 2010, 12:43:12 PM

To be fair to the ref, he likely didn't see it and what can he then do?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 15, 2010, 12:56:58 PM
They can do whatever they like - sure they do in open play!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossroads on June 15, 2010, 01:04:50 PM
any club that goes down to maghery there is always a row they must hasve forgot what happened to whitecross last year when they went down there
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on June 15, 2010, 01:22:51 PM
Quote from: crossroads on June 15, 2010, 01:04:50 PM
any club that goes down to maghery there is always a row they must hasve forgot what happened to whitecross last year when they went down there

I would think that is irrelevant to the situation were a young fella gets on seriously hurt. Hope he recovers well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 15, 2010, 01:51:30 PM
Quote from: crossroads on June 15, 2010, 01:04:50 PM
any club that goes down to maghery there is always a row they must hasve forgot what happened to whitecross last year when they went down there

So what are you trying to say then that it is Magherys fault one of their lads got a horific doing from a culloville player? Wise up will you ffs.

I have played against Maghery all my life and they were always hard and fair games. You may have got in the odd scuffle but there was certainly nothing of this nature especially on a lad of 19 who has a slight build like the lad in question.

This thing must be punished severly because a clear message has to be sent out that this is not acceptable. Incidents like this if permitted could ruin the game entirely. A firm hand must be used by the county board and this is the perfect opportunity to do so with this club. This is only one of their incidents, this could easily have happened three or four times this year to teams playing against culloville.

So crossroads i suggest you question the thuggery on behalf of Culloville and leave Maghery out of it, as it is clear they were the innocent party on this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 15, 2010, 02:00:19 PM
Its amazing how certain some people can be about the rights and wrongs of an incident they never saw.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 15, 2010, 02:12:15 PM
I agree Maghery can be less than gentlemanly when they play at home and Im sure they have been at fault for many of the rows that have taken place there however that doesnt even come close to justifying the treatment of this lad.

Lets for arguments sake say he did start it and lets say his behaviour was questionnable - does that mean he deserved the horific injuries he sustained???

Theres lots of hitting off the ball etc in football its a part of the game!! That doesnt give some hillbilly thug a licence to do whatever the f**k he wants. That might be normal behaviour in the lawless hole hes from - but it has no place on a football field whether its in Maghery or f**king afghanistan!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 15, 2010, 02:31:16 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 15, 2010, 02:00:19 PM
Its amazing how certain some people can be about the rights and wrongs of an incident they never saw.
All due respect but when a fella just out of minor has to be rushed to hospital for surgery it doesn't take a genius to figure out who was in the wrong. Simply put there is absolutely no justification for that on a football field, regardless of any provocation that may have been directed at the perpetrator. It was assault plain and simple. I didn't have to be in Maghery on Sunday to condone this and neither did anyone else who has commented on it. If that happened on the street he'd do time. I understand Nugent was due to fly off on holidays, instead he's lying in Dundonald sucking food through a straw.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 15, 2010, 02:33:32 PM
Its also unsuprising that relative sympathy for this thug comes from a cullyhanna man. Yourselves and culloville should form MMA clubs instead of GAA clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on June 15, 2010, 03:02:10 PM
QuoteAll due respect but when a fella just out of minor has to be rushed to hospital for surgery it doesn't take a genius to figure out who was in the wrong.

A player could be hospitalised from a legal tackle or simple misfortune. John Toal is a good example.
If there was assault here then it needs to be dealt with, but you cannot conclude without having seen it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 15, 2010, 03:23:14 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on June 15, 2010, 03:02:10 PM
QuoteAll due respect but when a fella just out of minor has to be rushed to hospital for surgery it doesn't take a genius to figure out who was in the wrong.

A player could be hospitalised from a legal tackle or simple misfortune. John Toal is a good example.
If there was assault here then it needs to be dealt with, but you cannot conclude without having seen it.
I am well aware of that...Do you think there is some conspiracy going on? Unless the people at the match aswell as the people from Maghery that I have spoken to are all complete liars then I can conclude that there was something very unsavoury about this incident.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 15, 2010, 05:15:04 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 15, 2010, 02:33:32 PM
Its also unsuprising that relative sympathy for this thug comes from a cullyhanna man. Yourselves and culloville should form MMA clubs instead of GAA clubs.

I would explain to you the point I'm trying to make but your record on this site suggests you lack the capacity to understand it.

Quote from: armaghniac on June 15, 2010, 03:02:10 PM
QuoteAll due respect but when a fella just out of minor has to be rushed to hospital for surgery it doesn't take a genius to figure out who was in the wrong.

A player could be hospitalised from a legal tackle or simple misfortune. John Toal is a good example.
If there was assault here then it needs to be dealt with, but you cannot conclude without having seen it.

Exactly. Indeed many of us would have attended a match where worse than hospitalisation occured through sheer accident.

What I have the problem with is people rushing to judgment without any facts other than gossip and hearsay. We've already seen some fairly vitrolic language used and a person named incorrectly. I've seen countless occasions on this thread where people make false and exaggerated claims about what they perceive as thuggery and I think its a fairly wise proposition that people should think very carefully before making wild and emotive statements on a public forum.

And most importantly, I wish the young fella whose been injured all the best and hope he recovers and is back playing football as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 15, 2010, 05:20:03 PM
Ok then lets then say we don't know what happened ! ffs lets not . This was no accident i know the young lad involved and at most he would have been doing a bit of mouthing. f**k the playing it down craic throw the book at them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 15, 2010, 10:05:06 PM
Sorry I didnt realise we had records - could I please see mine from whoever keeps them?? Cheers.

Dont be a tit lad - I understand the need for calms heads in a heated situation untill all facts are known but we havent formed a group and were not on our way to the lads hose to murder him!

Its just harsh words on public forum about an atrocious incident. The lad hardly fell and broke his jaw and cheek and whatever else now did he?? And no matter what provocation (if any) preceeded the 'event' - these injuries cannot be justified anywhere in a normal society so to happen on a football field is completely unnacceptable.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on June 16, 2010, 12:35:19 AM
surely omeone must know the lad who did this? his name..rightly or wrongly should be in every paper throughout the county...last year mullaghbawn and tullysarren were thrown put of U21s for three years due to an incident which resulted in serious injury to a player as a result of a brawl...will similar action be taken here? i no for a fact that it wont because the county board are as spineless as the perpetrater of this incident they comdown heavy on underage events but fall to punish the senior members whom the underage players watch every week and a good few are involved in training the youngsters
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on June 16, 2010, 06:26:41 AM
As someone who was at the match, I can say with certainty that the player did not bring on the assault on himself. The facts are a free in was given to C/ville on the 45 mtr line and most people were watching for the free being taken. This includes the referee. The free was about 3 mtrs in from the sideline on the dugout side of the pitch. The incident happened on or about the 21 mtr. line on the bank side of the pitch. Anyone standing there would have had a good veiw of it. I was standing below the score board and therefore was looking up the pitch.I saw the player being hit but could not identify the culprit. Maghery as a club are well aware what happened last year, and as a club we took steps to ensure it never happen again. What happened on Sunday was not part of a game incident it was sheer thuggery. In fairness to C/ville they had a man sent off for 2 yellow cards( poor tackles) With about 2 mins to go no-one saw an ending like this. Kevin Nugent`s only crime was playing well and sweeping up in defence, someone didnt like it and dished out his own answer.I dont wish to try any club or player on the internet,and I think it will be dealt with at CCC level.I hope this post clears up any discussion as to what happened. As a member of Maghery I would like to thank all the poster`s for their good wishes towards Kevin and hope it won`t be too long until he is playing again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Abble on June 16, 2010, 08:10:55 AM
dirty yellow tramps like this who think they're hard men by hitting someone from behind in this fashion need locking up. nugent will be in for a tough time of it both physically and mentally as there will now be court proceedings to go through and no doubt the cullaville club will be backing their man up to the hilt !
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 16, 2010, 08:12:51 AM
This incident headlined the sport news this morning on Radio Ulster,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on June 16, 2010, 09:02:09 AM
I`m sorry to hear it made the news headlines as it brings the sport we all love into disrepute, as for court proceedings that is a decision him and the family will have to take. Scuffles and rucks are unfortunately part and parcel of physical sports, but that does not mean we have to accept this type of action. 40 years ago he would not have got away so easy with regard to some form of retribution Swimming lessons maybe  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 16, 2010, 09:07:48 AM
Wish the lad the best of luck and speedy recovery, hopefully it wont set him back with regards confidence and his footballing ablilty
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: regal on June 16, 2010, 09:19:14 AM
Best wishes to Kevin Nugent and his family and clubmates. I hope his recovery goes well and we are watching him in an Armagh jersey in the very near future.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 16, 2010, 09:26:04 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/8743095.stm


Kevin Nugent recovering in hospital after attack


Kevin Nugent, one of the teenage stars of Armagh's All-Ireland winning team, is in hospital recovering from injuries sustained in a club game on Sunday.

Nugent underwent extensive surgery for injuries caused by the vicious assault during a Division One club game between Maghery and Cullaville.

The 19-year-old was knocked unconscious and suffered horrific facial damage.

Armagh's disciplinary authority, the CCC, is in the process of launching an investigation into the incident.

The attack, which occurred in the final moments of the game, caused damage which will prevent the teenager from chewing solid food for four months.

Nugent suffered a broken chin, broken jaw, split lower gum, and all his lower teeth were displaced and part of his lower jaw dislodged.

The CCC will seek to establish the facts surrounding the incident and quickly identify who was responsible.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on June 16, 2010, 09:27:00 AM
I hope Kevin makes a full and speedy recovery.

It sounds like the culprit was a boxer and I hope Cullaville do the right thing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 16, 2010, 10:47:33 AM
They are savage injuries for any lad to suffer and it is not something you would do to someone in the heat of the moment.  there would need to be real venom in that kind of hit.  Things like that make me wonder about how I personally play the game.  I have always played on the edge and have never held back in playing it hard and have had the same back.  I played a game last week where a lad was puling and hauling at me the whole game and he hit me a sly dig in the guts.  I lashed out and knocked him with a punch on the cheek.  We were both wrong but I could easily have broken the lads cheekbone.  I went into the changing room after the game as I am captain of the team and wished them all the best in the next round as they had beaten us in championship.  I mentioned the incident in the changing room and said that these things can sometimes happen and if you give it you have to take it but that when we leave the pitch it is over.  I got a good few 'here here's from the players and myself and your man shook hands. 

My point is that in different circumstances the lads jaw was broken and I was no different than the lad from Culloville whether I meant it or not.  There was an "acceptance" that me and your man had a fair dig at each other but if it was a sneaky dig from behind I would have been rightly villified.  This is a problem that needs to be addressed, the latent acceptance of a cetain level of violence that runs through the sport, the "fair dig" mentality.  It spills into injuries that happened to the young Nugent lad sometimes.  I think there has to be a sea change in how the games are coached and how managers push the "win at all cost" mentality.  It is correct to be competitive but the game inmy view is in a bad place at the minute and there is need to bring it out of there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 16, 2010, 11:03:07 AM
GR8 post BC, agree with every word
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 16, 2010, 11:04:28 AM
it is what is known as a section 47 offence. Triable either way in the magistrates' court or the crown court. If in the mag court max sentence 12 months plus fine. If in the crown court 7 years plus fine.



Could be prosecuted with gbh same sentencing.



Case of Moss in 2000 where offender punched an opponent in face during a rugby game fracturing his eye socket. Got 8 months.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 16, 2010, 11:34:39 AM
Yes BC1 i agree to a certain extent but me and you have clashed before on the field and there have been a few punches thrown but in all fairness was the venom in the punches (i think not). If a lad hit me on the pitch I'd give it back but to an extend where it's just a stinger and wouldn't cause damage (just enough to let him know he'll not get away with hitting me). This lad from Cullaville had obviously been setting this hit up and had thought this thru (waiting on the play to be elsewhere) and he obviously hit the lad with everything he had to cause that damage. To me there is a difference there, I've hit many a people on the pitch (retaliation) but I've never ever had it in my head to cause damage or hit someone with everything i have to do that damage.

If the lad that was guilty of the punch owned up and done the right thing and handed himself in at least it would show some remorse and would benefit both club and himself (may also reduce the punishment, if any)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on June 16, 2010, 12:08:22 PM
The number of the player is now known and it appears he had just come on as a sub. Would this suggest it was accidental? I think not.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 16, 2010, 12:10:21 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 16, 2010, 11:34:39 AM
Yes BC1 i agree to a certain extent but me and you have clashed before on the field and there have been a few punches thrown but in all fairness was the venom in the punches (i think not). If a lad hit me on the pitch I'd give it back but to an extend where it's just a stinger and wouldn't cause damage (just enough to let him know he'll not get away with hitting me).

But that is exactly the point I am trying to make.  I came off the field the other day and thought to myself "why did I get involved in that?".  There was no real malice in what i did but I could just have easily broken his jaw.  I wouldn't class myself as a clean player, more of a mullocker really, but I never go out with the intention of wrecking some young lads jaw.  I don't know if  if the lad from culloville went on the pitch with a specific intention to break Kevin Nugent's jaw but in a split second he made the decision to give the punch that extra bit that did the damage.  When I drew out and struck the lad last week I could have given it another 10% and broken his jaw.  That is the difference between me and the lad that hit Nugent and I think that the underlying acceptance in our games of the "fair dig" has allowed the situation where behaviour like happened in Maghery can occur.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 16, 2010, 12:22:12 PM
In all fairness I dont think we are talking about one dig here - read the injuries the lad has sustained, there is no way one punch did all that. I suspect there may well have been a boot involved.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 16, 2010, 12:25:12 PM
I hope the Cullaville man gets cleaned in court, it's the only way boys & clubs like that are going to learn, a slap on the wrist form the County board does f**k all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 16, 2010, 12:27:31 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 16, 2010, 12:22:12 PM
In all fairness I dont think we are talking about one dig here - read the injuries the lad has sustained, there is no way one punch did all that. I suspect there may well have been a boot involved.

you stop making stuff up that you don't know, there was a maghery lad on here stating it was a punch. If he'd have been kicked then he would have said he was kicked...if you hit someone hard enough and catch him in the right place you could certainly cause that damage with one punch
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 16, 2010, 01:55:49 PM
Bollocks! One punch broke a lads jaw, cheekbone, dislodged his lower jaw, smashed out all his lower teeth and tore his entire gum such that he cant eat solid foods for 4 months!! Wise up man!! Of course it wasnt a single blow...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 16, 2010, 01:57:49 PM
Sorry and a broken chin too! f**k me lads if that was one punch then im Mickey f**king mouse!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 16, 2010, 02:03:36 PM
Ive just thought about that and it would be physically impossible to acvhieve all that damage with one punch especially one that is supposed to have come from behind. If people believe it can then its worse than the magic bullet theory!!

Ill give my opinion on such injuries - before I do im stressing its the opinion of someone who wasnt there and doesnt know all the facts before some of the tits here get their knickers in a twist.

To sustain those injuries I believe the lad was hit and as he fell was caught square with a boot. Its the only way I see these injuries occuring.

To you illdecide - ill let you line me up and give you three square on punches to my face and I bet you couldnt do the damage that was done to this lad. (Although no doubt you would enjoy it)

One punch my hole!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nrico2006 on June 16, 2010, 02:15:07 PM
Unless Mike Tyson was the perpetrator, I doubt it was one punch. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 16, 2010, 02:15:25 PM
BC i would agree with you about the fair dig culture that has been accepted over the years in Gaelic games. In other sports it is a straight red card and at least a four week ban.

All this talk about a wee dig, a half dig a withdrawn dig etc is bollox. Truth be told if you hit someone  around the head when they unexpect it then you can do a lot of damage, irreagardless of the force. Young Nugent hasn't been expecting to be hit and he has probably been tracking back into position and this guy has lashed out at him from the side by the extent of his injuries. The report said he was knocked out so the damage could have been furthered by the fall.

This culture within our game has to be changed. We all witnessed the disturbing scenes that occured in the international rules games. The public outcry and reaction of the GAA was correct. ie Boycott unless the safety concerns of the players was met. No one should go out onto a sports field putting their lives at risk.. Especially lads that have to earn a living and raise their families. This incident should be dealt with by the same firm hand, ie the player in question should be banned for life from the sport, forwarded to the police and the club itself should come under scrutiny regarding discipline. If so the club would be heavily fined aswell as their discipline leaves a lot to be desired and that is only this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nrico2006 on June 16, 2010, 02:16:28 PM
On another note, can anyone confirm if there has been any additions to the Armagh Minor Panel?  I heard a young lad from Clann Eireann has been called up, McKavanagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 16, 2010, 02:26:23 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 16, 2010, 02:03:36 PM
Ive just thought about that and it would be physically impossible to acvhieve all that damage with one punch especially one that is supposed to have come from behind. If people believe it can then its worse than the magic bullet theory!!

Ill give my opinion on such injuries - before I do im stressing its the opinion of someone who wasnt there and doesnt know all the facts before some of the tits here get their knickers in a twist.

To sustain those injuries I believe the lad was hit and as he fell was caught square with a boot. Its the only way I see these injuries occuring.

To you illdecide - ill let you line me up and give you three square on punches to my face and I bet you couldnt do the damage that was done to this lad. (Although no doubt you would enjoy it)

One punch my hole!!

It would only take the wan saan ;) although it would need 3 to improve your looks :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 16, 2010, 02:36:23 PM
I dont mind the dig for dig culture and I dont think our game needs to lose anymore of its physical nature (Its becoming like soccer!) However there is a line that the vast majority of people know and accept. Digging one another in the ribs or 'getting to know your marker' etc are all valuable traits in this game which is known worldwide for its physicality. This lad has gone way beyond that. What he did was nothing to do with the culture of our game. Not only was it against our games ethos it was against the law of the land. Something that has to be punished severely!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 16, 2010, 03:32:38 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 16, 2010, 02:26:23 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 16, 2010, 02:03:36 PM
Ive just thought about that and it would be physically impossible to acvhieve all that damage with one punch especially one that is supposed to have come from behind. If people believe it can then its worse than the magic bullet theory!!

Ill give my opinion on such injuries - before I do im stressing its the opinion of someone who wasnt there and doesnt know all the facts before some of the tits here get their knickers in a twist.

To sustain those injuries I believe the lad was hit and as he fell was caught square with a boot. Its the only way I see these injuries occuring.

To you illdecide - ill let you line me up and give you three square on punches to my face and I bet you couldnt do the damage that was done to this lad. (Although no doubt you would enjoy it)

One punch my hole!!

It would only take the wan saan ;) although it would need 3 to improve your looks :D

You keep it up and i'll have your face mangled in two lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bigfrankt on June 16, 2010, 04:40:31 PM
Just on a side note. The cops are involved here, its not up to the young lad in this case. A criminal investigation will now take place once this made the papers and radio etc.

There will then be the possibility of a civil case where he can choose to sue the lad who carried out this cowardly attack (and he should)

Hope for a full and speedy recovery.

Frank
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tony Baloney on June 16, 2010, 05:20:33 PM
Any official word from Culloville?

The tr**p swingin the fists shouldn't be allowed across the line for many a long year. Quite right to get the polis involved too. This was no retaliatory dig.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on June 16, 2010, 05:30:08 PM
would just like to wish young nugent all the best and hopefully we will see him back playing football soon!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on June 16, 2010, 05:47:45 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 16, 2010, 12:25:12 PM
I hope the Cullaville man gets cleaned in court, it's the only way boys & clubs like that are going to learn, a slap on the wrist form the County board does f**k all.

Clubs like Cullaville and Clady need manners put on them, they have been at shite like this for many years and I couldnt agree more with Benny.

I once got nailed by a lad and it hurt a lot, I got up and head butted him and to this day I am ashamed of myself for that attack, I knocked him out cold and thought I had killed him, I never hit anybody on the field after that and I felt like a real sc**bag for ages. There is no need for that sort of shite ever.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgeddon on June 16, 2010, 06:09:07 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 16, 2010, 01:55:49 PM
Bollocks! One punch broke a lads jaw, cheekbone, dislodged his lower jaw, smashed out all his lower teeth and tore his entire gum such that he cant eat solid foods for 4 months!! Wise up man!! Of course it wasnt a single blow...

1 punch can cause that damage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 16, 2010, 06:13:41 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 16, 2010, 01:55:49 PM
Bollocks! One punch broke a lads jaw, cheekbone, dislodged his lower jaw, smashed out all his lower teeth and tore his entire gum such that he cant eat solid foods for 4 months!! Wise up man!! Of course it wasnt a single blow...
Just on the above quote... If someone isn't expecting the punch it can cause severe damage. The body is more relaxed etc and not ready for such impact. If he was ready for the punch or knew it was coming he would been more able to take it.

I've had a few clippings in my time (as a few on here can confirm  :D) but always knew the punch etc was coming. On one occasion a few years ago while playing ball I was struck from behind and it broke my jaw... The point im trying to make is that I wasn't ready for it, yet still managed to break my Jaw while much harder punches i've received didn't do as much damage as I knew they were coming...

All in all there is no doubt that 1 solid connection may well have caused such sickening injuries and unless you were there and witnessed it there is no point speculating!!

Best wishes and a speedy recovery to the young lad....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 16, 2010, 06:18:15 PM
Quote from: true on June 14, 2010, 11:43:56 PM
i see Nab v Tones set for Thursday night anybody know why?

not sure why it was changed.  please note game is  now 7.45 throw in not 7.30
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 16, 2010, 06:21:33 PM
Just saw the report on UTV - Shocking!!

And to the lads above I know one punch can cause a severe amount of damage but think about it for a second - his cheekbone, chin and both parts of his jaw as well as all lower teeth displaced. How could you possibly aim one single punch to do all that???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgeddon on June 16, 2010, 06:27:54 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 16, 2010, 06:21:33 PM
Just saw the report on UTV - Shocking!!

And to the lads above I know one punch can cause a severe amount of damage but think about it for a second - his cheekbone, chin and both parts of his jaw as well as all lower teeth displaced. How could you possibly aim one single punch to do all that???

If a single blow can kill someone, a single blow can cause this amount of damage. If the culprit took swinging punch and connected through the middle knuckle on the lower point of the cheek, it can fracture it. The bottom of the fist would cause the damage to the teeth, gum, jaw and chin. Even an uppercut the the jaw could cause such damage through impact. Not to forget when hitting the ground he could have suffered one or two injuries.



Also, best wishes to Kevin Nugent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on June 16, 2010, 07:54:36 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 16, 2010, 05:42:59 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on June 16, 2010, 05:20:33 PM
Any official word from Culloville?

The tr**p swingin the fists shouldn't be allowed across the line for many a long year. Quite right to get the polis involved too. This was no retaliatory dig.

A couple of days ago I suggested a certain lad might have been involved. He wasn't and I apologise for the 3rd time for naming him in the wrong. However the folk in Culloville still seem to be more intent on trying to find out Dougal Maguire's identity rather than reveal the identity of the culprit.

I wish to point out, therefore, that those of you think you know who Dougal is, think again.
It's now 5.40, I've just driven past Camlough Lake and I saw the guy who some of you are assuming is Dougal, swimming in the lake. He can't be 2 places at once. I admit I'm a personal friend of the person in question, but I'm not him and there are at least 3 people on the Board who can confirm this, Shamrock Short, Fear ar Strath Ban and The Mighty Quinn as they know my true identity. I can also reveal that he's mortified with me for posting the name of a person who wasn't involved and I apologise to him for that

You'd think people in Culloville would have more to think about  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on June 16, 2010, 09:16:15 PM
just 2 clear up about was it a punch r wat yes it was the lad was standing facing up the field and the cullaville no 19 only on a few mins as a sub had run across and struck him side on. the jaw broke at place of impact,broke at his other side around the ear area because of the force of the punch, and part of his chin bone broke at went through his gum makin the teeth to dislodge. yes 1 punch did this
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 16, 2010, 09:56:23 PM
I think it's been a sad week for Armagh over the incident at the weekend. What's even more sad is that Culloville people are spending more time trying to find out who Dougal Maguire is  :( They should get their own house in order first

Back to football matters though and Pearse Og beat Carrickcruppin tonight on a score line of 2-15 to 1-9. Wasn't at the match so can't comment on it as I was at the B game which the Ogs won as well against An Port Mor
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 17, 2010, 12:12:50 AM
Clans B team beat St Peters tonight in a very high scoring game (this is a guess at the score line Clans 4-12 St Peters 3-08).

On the Culloville issue...why are they trying to find out who Dougal Maguire is? what are they going to do if/when they find out...break his jaw too. The best thing they should be doing is handing the guilty lad over to the County Board and whatever other people who may need to speak to him.

Dougal i dunno about you but i wouldn't be getting to worried about it, you named a guy (so what) and almost straight away apologised for it (3 times now) tell them to f**k off. Well that what I'd be telling them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 17, 2010, 12:21:40 AM
If somebody had accused you or one of your close friends or family of smashing a young fella's face to bits, would you not want to know who they were?

That said, Dougal has apologised and withdrawn the comments so that should be an end to it. The incident only highlights the dangers of websites such as this though.

And again, its worth emphasising that whatever the rights and wrongs of anything discussed on here, the most important issue is the wellbeing of Kevin Nugent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 17, 2010, 08:04:11 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 17, 2010, 01:58:14 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 17, 2010, 12:21:40 AM
If somebody had accused you or one of your close friends or family of smashing a young fella's face to bits, would you not want to know who they were?


If someone smashed a young fella's face to bits would you not want to know who they were?

Of course. What's your point?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 08:32:42 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 17, 2010, 01:58:14 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 17, 2010, 12:21:40 AM
If somebody had accused you or one of your close friends or family of smashing a young fella's face to bits, would you not want to know who they were?


If someone smashed a young fella's face to bits would you not want to know who they were?

with all the eyes of the gaaboard on this thread plus quite a few lurkers trying to scavange information, Dougal should have kept his mouth closed until he got the confirmation on the name. Although he withdrew it almost immediately it was naive and wreckless to name the person you did without clarification or confirmation. Surely it cant be too hard to find out who the number 19 was, not that I think he should be named on here. If it was not from behind I would not condemn, but it was and its a dirty act.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 17, 2010, 08:53:03 AM
ogs defeated cruppin last nite 2/15 to 1/9 in cruppin. this was a good display by the ogs after trailing to an early goal. good to see g barton and mc coy return from long term injuries. the managers decision to try new players has helped the team improve greatly and is given more competition for the championship a head. still 7/8 of the county final team missing last nite including mallon, p duffy, davidson, a duffy, mc manus, r clarke, j j clarke,  dougan, mc ginley. a good result considering this, interesting to see ferris playing for cruppin he must have left the armagh panel? in relation to the nugent incident, i see cullaville have stated that the incident occurred during a melee involving various players, is this correct or are they running for cover? hope young kevin gets well soon, a good lad and so is his father brian a true gael.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 17, 2010, 09:20:52 AM
Best wishes to Kevin.
I hope he makes a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 09:37:25 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 17, 2010, 09:18:06 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 17, 2010, 08:04:11 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 17, 2010, 01:58:14 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 17, 2010, 12:21:40 AM
If somebody had accused you or one of your close friends or family of smashing a young fella's face to bits, would you not want to know who they were?


If someone smashed a young fella's face to bits would you not want to know who they were?

Of course. What's your point?

My point is that the issue of the identity of the culprit must surely be more important than trying to discover the identity of someone who named a person in the wrong and then apologised several times for doing so.

Dougal i think you might be safer keeping stum. There seems to be fear in your recent posts. Say nothing more on the subject and hopefully for you own sake the limelight shifts from yourself back onto the cowardly act that took place on the field.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 17, 2010, 10:40:18 AM
Dougal i wouldnt worry about it, the name of the thug is common knowledge now. to be honest he must be a real coward as he wouldnt face too many on the pitch one to one. culloville should do the decent thing and name the culprit to the county board and suspend him from their club. theres no justification for this thuggery. there committee needs to show leadership.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 17, 2010, 10:58:07 AM
Dougal bottom line here is thay you shouldn't have named any names until you were absolutely 100% certain . The severity of this incident and the repercussions ie law wise are far reaching so it wasn't a wise choice going on hearsay. I know it is a case of mistaken identity which is acceptable in the case of saying the wrong man was sent off or something but this very board could be possibly used as evidence if the police think worthy.

Having said that i think this lad should be named and shamed especially if Culloville and the county board are not going to do all within their power to sort this issue(which they may do). But i think for now we all have to let the county board, culloville and the police deal with the incident and try to refrain as much from playing the guessing game regarding proceedings.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on June 17, 2010, 11:04:00 AM
Best wishes to young Nugent, horrific injuries. Hope he's back playing soon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 17, 2010, 11:22:43 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 17, 2010, 12:21:40 AM
If somebody had accused you or one of your close friends or family of smashing a young fella's face to bits, would you not want to know who they were?

That said, Dougal has apologised and withdrawn the comments so that should be an end to it. The incident only highlights the dangers of websites such as this though. And again, its worth emphasising that whatever the rights and wrongs of anything discussed on here, the most important issue is the wellbeing of Kevin Nugent.


We live in the North if Ireland not North Korea. This is a public opinion forum within a democracy it shouldnt be dangerous or restrained in any way. Freedom of speech and all that. Of course people do nee to be sensible and sympathetic about things but everytime someone says something controversial (Usually me) people crack up and suggest they are thrown off the board. If you dont agree with something thats fine - say so - but realise its only someone elses opinion. (And he may well only be saying it to cause a debate... ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 17, 2010, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 08:32:42 AM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on June 17, 2010, 01:58:14 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 17, 2010, 12:21:40 AM
If somebody had accused you or one of your close friends or family of smashing a young fella's face to bits, would you not want to know who they were?


If someone smashed a young fella's face to bits would you not want to know who they were?

with all the eyes of the gaaboard on this thread plus quite a few lurkers trying to scavange information, Dougal should have kept his mouth closed until he got the confirmation on the name. Although he withdrew it almost immediately it was naive and wreckless to name the person you did without clarification or confirmation. Surely it cant be too hard to find out who the number 19 was, not that I think he should be named on here. If it was not from behind I would not condemn, but it was and its a dirty act.


What????? Are you for real lad - if the lad was struck face to face you think this was ok???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
if he went toe to toe i dont see it classed as a complete dirty act.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 17, 2010, 11:58:27 AM
Dirty act or not lad this is completely unnacceptable!! If young nuggent had hit him first and was hit in retaliation by a better punch then fair dues - he brought it on himself and id have as much sympathy for the lad who done the damage as his only crime was to punch better.

However - this was unprovoked so it shouldnt matter where the punch came from. He was on a football pitch not in a boxing ring so he didnt have to have his guard up!! Its the easiest thing in the world to smack someone who isnt expecting it - any fool could do it! To do it causing this much damage....the lad deserves eveything he gets.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 17, 2010, 12:00:34 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
if he went toe to toe i dont see it classed as a complete dirty act.
you clown it was a complete act of thuggery. now go to your club and get them to name and shame
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 17, 2010, 12:06:32 PM
Lads it doesnt matter a f**k whether it was toe to toe, came in from the side, sneaky one from the back, who hit who 1st,

the lad is lying up in agony with severe facial injuries, club football in Armagh is now tarnished with a bad reputation which doesnt help

the person who done this needs to be punished, this cant go on in football, Culloville should be made an example of, Throw them out of the league, fine them, and ban the culprit for life,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on June 17, 2010, 12:07:41 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 17, 2010, 12:00:34 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
if he went toe to toe i dont see it classed as a complete dirty act.
you clown it was a complete act of thuggery. now go to your club and get them to name and shame
Why would he do that, he's not from Culloville.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 17, 2010, 12:00:34 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
if he went toe to toe i dont see it classed as a complete dirty act.
you clown it was a complete act of thuggery. now go to your club and get them to name and shame

??? ??? Ok wanderer, I'll go to MY club in a different county and ask them who did it! Where do you think i hail from?? I understand it was a dirty act, he hit him from behind. What i'm saying is if the injuries sustained by Nugent were of the result of a toe to toe smigging match then it would not be categorised as a dirty act. Simple as.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 12:33:29 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 21, 2010, 10:16:42 AM
dessie is a kn**ker on the football field but i hope he plays this year as he will be put to the sword by stevie ;)

You Clown!!! ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 17, 2010, 12:36:31 PM
You can understand the confusion here though tin whistle - your language seemed to be brushing over the seriousness of the incident and suggesting that these injuries would be ok so long as the punch wasnt from behind.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 12:45:17 PM
Its not the injuries that make this action so terrible. Its the fact that he was cleaned from behind. If it happened face to face would there be the same furore?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 17, 2010, 12:46:35 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 12:45:17 PM
Its not the injuries that make this action so terrible. Its the fact that he was cleaned from behind. If it happened face to face would there be the same furore?
Yes. The fella is mangled ffs. Rumour he's been advised not to play again though i think that's exaggerated.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on June 17, 2010, 12:58:57 PM
Despicable, sickening act this. The onus for now is on Culloville as a club. Do they:

(a) Protect their own member knowing full well who struck the blow (and everyone within Culloville will have known who done it by now)
or (b) Ban the member from their club and hand his name over to the county board.

If the individual in question had any semblance of remorse he would take it in his own hands to choose option (b).

Culloville have the option to do the decent thing or their reputation will be forever tarnished by this horrible act.

If they don't, then the punishment should be immediate expulsion from all League and championship activity for the remainder of the year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 17, 2010, 02:25:10 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 17, 2010, 12:58:57 PM
Despicable, sickening act this. The onus for now is on Culloville as a club. Do they:

(a) Protect their own member knowing full well who struck the blow (and everyone within Culloville will have known who done it by now)
or (b) Ban the member from their club and hand his name over to the county board.

If the individual in question had any semblance of remorse he would take it in his own hands to choose option (b).

Culloville have the option to do the decent thing or their reputation will be forever tarnished by this horrible act.

If they don't, then the punishment should be immediate expulsion from all League and championship activity for the remainder of the year.

Correct
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on June 17, 2010, 02:36:25 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 17, 2010, 02:25:10 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on June 17, 2010, 12:58:57 PM
Despicable, sickening act this. The onus for now is on Culloville as a club. Do they:

(a) Protect their own member knowing full well who struck the blow (and everyone within Culloville will have known who done it by now)
or (b) Ban the member from their club and hand his name over to the county board.

If the individual in question had any semblance of remorse he would take it in his own hands to choose option (b).

Culloville have the option to do the decent thing or their reputation will be forever tarnished by this horrible act.

If they don't, then the punishment should be immediate expulsion from all League and championship activity for the remainder of the year.

Correct

Lads, if you think Cullaville are going to hand this man over to the relevant people then you have another thing coming.

There's no way they would hang one of their own out to dry no matter what he did. If they did hand him over it would be the height of hypocracy since it is the club as a whole who have bred and nurtured this sort of behaviour.

Thuggery is taught to kids at U10 level at this club. We have already witnessed Cullaville being involved in several acts of despicable behaviour this season alone. It was only a matter of time before someone got seriously hurt and they are now reaping what they've sown.

The club as a whole needs to be hit with severe punishment as well as the culprit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2010, 02:50:40 PM
Nearly an identical case to that of Conway/Kielt in Derry last year but with worse injuries to the young lad.

Hope he recovers fully.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on June 17, 2010, 02:57:02 PM
I see Culloville released a statement to the Irish News stating that the injury occurred during a melée in which a number of players from both clubs were involved.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on June 17, 2010, 02:58:19 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 17, 2010, 02:57:02 PM
I see Culloville released a statement to the Irish News stating that the injury occurred during a melée in which a number of players from both clubs were involved.

I rest my case.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DennistheMenace on June 17, 2010, 02:59:58 PM
Surely there were witnesses though ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hound of ulster on June 17, 2010, 03:04:09 PM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on June 17, 2010, 02:58:19 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on June 17, 2010, 02:57:02 PM
I see Culloville released a statement to the Irish News stating that the injury occurred during a melée in which a number of players from both clubs were involved.

I rest my case.
read that myself,was the first time a melle was mentioned on this unsavoury subject,i hope the player and culloville get the punishment this act deserves and look forward till the day young nugent is happy to play football again,because his injuries will heal but whether we have lost a good young prospect time will tell,i hope not and i wish him a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 17, 2010, 03:07:07 PM
Sam of Sarsfieds is 100% correct, Culloville are hardly going to hand their man over and anyone who knows what they're like down there could have have told you that. I'm confident though that the culprit will be caught, there is no way the CCC will let this go after the wide publicity it has received, and rightfully so. 4 months before the fella can even eat? As for the culprit, I'm sure whatever the outcome he might want to take a break from football himself, would not be surprised in the slightest if he was to be in for some 'special attention' when playing other clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgeddon on June 17, 2010, 03:21:49 PM
Impose a 3-5 year ban on the club if they don't hand over the culprit. A season's ban dosen't seem sufficient, especially after reading about what they have been upto this season. Teams that play against culloville will be on their guard looking out for foul play which by the sounds of it there will be and it will spark off yet another fight and tarnishing the reputation of the decent clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on June 17, 2010, 03:32:47 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on June 17, 2010, 03:21:49 PM
Impose a 3-5 year ban on the club if they don't hand over the culprit. A season's ban dosen't seem sufficient, especially after reading about what they have been upto this season. Teams that play against culloville will be on their guard looking out for foul play which by the sounds of it there will be and it will spark off yet another fight and tarnishing the reputation of the decent clubs.

Bit over the top. That would kill the club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 17, 2010, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 17, 2010, 12:00:34 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
if he went toe to toe i dont see it classed as a complete dirty act.
you clown it was a complete act of thuggery. now go to your club and get them to name and shame

??? ??? Ok wanderer, I'll go to MY club in a different county and ask them who did it! Where do you think i hail from?? I understand it was a dirty act, he hit him from behind. What i'm saying is if the injuries sustained by Nugent were of the result of a toe to toe smigging match then it would not be categorised as a dirty act. Simple as.
why do you think i mentioned it, monaghan county and culloville are very close and seem to accept similar behavior and i know theres a bit of cross over of players too. at least you now accept it was a dirty act.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 03:45:27 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 17, 2010, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 17, 2010, 12:00:34 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
if he went toe to toe i dont see it classed as a complete dirty act.
you clown it was a complete act of thuggery. now go to your club and get them to name and shame

??? ??? Ok wanderer, I'll go to MY club in a different county and ask them who did it! Where do you think i hail from?? I understand it was a dirty act, he hit him from behind. What i'm saying is if the injuries sustained by Nugent were of the result of a toe to toe smigging match then it would not be categorised as a dirty act. Simple as.
why do you think i mentioned it, monaghan county and culloville are very close and seem to accept similar behavior and i know theres a bit of cross over of players too. at least you now accept it was a dirty act.

Ah wanderer you have me caught out, sure why didnt you say you knew I was a Monaghan man???
Have you a bit of nervous disposition concerning the free state men after the dribbing they gave you this year???

Remember this;

Quote from: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 12:33:29 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 21, 2010, 10:16:42 AM
dessie is a kn**ker on the football field but i hope he plays this year as he will be put to the sword by stevie ;)

You Clown!!! ;) ;) ;)

Clown!!! Some sword Stevie had!!! ;) :D ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgeddon on June 17, 2010, 03:58:26 PM
Quote from: AFS on June 17, 2010, 03:32:47 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on June 17, 2010, 03:21:49 PM
Impose a 3-5 year ban on the club if they don't hand over the culprit. A season's ban dosen't seem sufficient, especially after reading about what they have been upto this season. Teams that play against culloville will be on their guard looking out for foul play which by the sounds of it there will be and it will spark off yet another fight and tarnishing the reputation of the decent clubs.

Bit over the top. That would kill the club.

With the things they seem to be getting away with a heft ban should be imposed. Would a year's ban really be sufficient?

If not a lengthy ban, a compensation fine should be imposed for the reputation done to the county and to the player.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on June 17, 2010, 04:51:35 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on June 17, 2010, 03:58:26 PM
Quote from: AFS on June 17, 2010, 03:32:47 PM
Quote from: Armaghgeddon on June 17, 2010, 03:21:49 PM
Impose a 3-5 year ban on the club if they don't hand over the culprit. A season's ban dosen't seem sufficient, especially after reading about what they have been upto this season. Teams that play against culloville will be on their guard looking out for foul play which by the sounds of it there will be and it will spark off yet another fight and tarnishing the reputation of the decent clubs.

Bit over the top. That would kill the club.

With the things they seem to be getting away with a heft ban should be imposed. Would a year's ban really be sufficient?

If not a lengthy ban, a compensation fine should be imposed for the reputation done to the county and to the player.

I agree. I'm not saying every club in Armagh is always on their best behaviour except Cullaville, there are others who's behaviour sometimes borders on unnacceptable but in my experience Cullaville have consistently been a cut above the rest.

I think the county as a whole needs to take a firm hand with them now to ensure this thuggery is stamped out and needs to set a precedent, not just for Cullaville, but for other clubs too. 3-5 years is going a little far but I think 2 full years after this season would be fair.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on June 17, 2010, 05:25:01 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 03:45:27 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 17, 2010, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 12:20:53 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 17, 2010, 12:00:34 PM
Quote from: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
if he went toe to toe i dont see it classed as a complete dirty act.
you clown it was a complete act of thuggery. now go to your club and get them to name and shame

??? ??? Ok wanderer, I'll go to MY club in a different county and ask them who did it! Where do you think i hail from?? I understand it was a dirty act, he hit him from behind. What i'm saying is if the injuries sustained by Nugent were of the result of a toe to toe smigging match then it would not be categorised as a dirty act. Simple as.
why do you think i mentioned it, monaghan county and culloville are very close and seem to accept similar behavior and i know theres a bit of cross over of players too. at least you now accept it was a dirty act.

Ah wanderer you have me caught out, sure why didnt you say you knew I was a Monaghan man???
Have you a bit of nervous disposition concerning the free state men after the dribbing they gave you this year???

Remember this;

Quote from: Final Whistle on June 17, 2010, 12:33:29 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on May 21, 2010, 10:16:42 AM
dessie is a kn**ker on the football field but i hope he plays this year as he will be put to the sword by stevie ;)

You Clown!!! ;) ;) ;)

Clown!!! Some sword Stevie had!!! ;) :D ;)
What are you raving about?? Dessie Mone getting hauled off after 20 mins was down to the fact that Stevie had given him a light head. One of the few things that Armagh supporters could smile about that day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on June 17, 2010, 10:06:06 PM
Reference the melee in the Cullaville game, that was because of the incident but was quickly stopped after about 30 secs. the player who was assualted never moved for 30 mins from where he fell. Cullaville club are trying to shift blame away from their player as they would. I was at the game and saw what happened. Incidents like this are a sad day for the GAA and Armagh in particular.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Abble on June 18, 2010, 08:04:32 AM
Quote from: JUst retired on June 17, 2010, 10:06:06 PM
Cullaville club are trying to shift blame away from their player as they would. I was at the game and saw what happened. Incidents like this are a sad day for the GAA and Armagh in particular.

i refer you to my previous post...

Quote from: Abble on June 16, 2010, 08:10:55 AM
dirty yellow tramps like this who think they're hard men by hitting someone from behind in this fashion need locking up. nugent will be in for a tough time of it both physically and mentally as there will now be court proceedings to go through and no doubt the cullaville club will be backing their man up to the hilt !

these lies are only the start of it. i've seen it once too often where the offending club will now have some of its more so-called respected members called in to action to come out and cover up the truth, instead trying to twist things around to protect their man. they will be told the lies to come out with and everyone then sticks to their story throughout. this is the reality, which is why this boy i feel needs to do his time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 18, 2010, 08:36:48 AM
Nab beat the tones last night in the league by 3 points last nite,

unfortunetly i didnt get to it but by all accounts the Nab were very lucky to get a win,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 18, 2010, 01:54:31 PM
Someone pm me the name of the culloville suspect!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 18, 2010, 03:30:27 PM
When you get it sann do likewise
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 19, 2010, 11:37:35 AM
Division 4

Cross drew with Killeen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 19, 2010, 01:47:46 PM
heard stefan campbell and x2 others called up to panel?has anyone heard anything?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 19, 2010, 02:27:05 PM
Quote from: crossfire on June 19, 2010, 11:37:35 AM
Division 4

Cross drew with Killeen.

Big surprise. What happened there? Cross missing players?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 19, 2010, 04:57:54 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 19, 2010, 02:27:05 PM
Quote from: crossfire on June 19, 2010, 11:37:35 AM
Division 4

Cross drew with Killeen.

Big surprise. What happened there? Cross missing players?

I see Rico Kelly was playing.  Is he not with the first team anymore?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on June 19, 2010, 06:21:27 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 19, 2010, 04:57:54 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 19, 2010, 02:27:05 PM
Quote from: crossfire on June 19, 2010, 11:37:35 AM
Division 4

Cross drew with Killeen.

Big surprise. What happened there? Cross missing players?

I see Rico Kelly was playing.  Is he not with the first team anymore?

whats the craic there anyway? do they name seperate squads or is it along the same lines as the B's?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on June 19, 2010, 07:05:09 PM
I heard a rumour before the start of the season that rico Kelly was looking a transfer away from cross. It obviously never happened but I thought it strange at the time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 19, 2010, 07:43:39 PM
Quote from: pearseog on June 19, 2010, 06:21:27 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 19, 2010, 04:57:54 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 19, 2010, 02:27:05 PM
Quote from: crossfire on June 19, 2010, 11:37:35 AM
Division 4

Cross drew with Killeen.

Big surprise. What happened there? Cross missing players?

I see Rico Kelly was playing.  Is he not with the first team anymore?

whats the craic there anyway? do they name seperate squads or is it along the same lines as the B's?

You have to name different squads though I think you can apply for a transfer between the division so long as it is ratified by the County Board. Junior championship team can include anybody who didn't play Senior championship in 2009 or 2010.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 19, 2010, 11:41:30 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on June 19, 2010, 01:47:46 PM
heard stefan campbell and x2 others called up to panel?has anyone heard anything?

Yes i heard but am not saying. There are three well know footballers now involved with the county from North Armagh...Correct
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gold on June 20, 2010, 12:44:30 PM
What a tr**p. He was only on a few mins --had he any interest in playin football at all? If not WTF is he doing lining out for a football club.

A few years back i got a similar dig from behind but luckily all i got was a black eye i couldn't see out of for a week. Was ragin about it and still am though never got chance to get revenge on the tr**p.

The problem is though if a back is holding his man he is liable to get an elbow back in his ribs/jaw (although obviously there was no suggestion of this in the incident we're talking about where a tr**p struck a young fella from behind).

But what is a forward meant to do --he's trained his balls off to make the team--the first 3 balls are played in his man is digging/nipping at him and holding him, pullin him back so he's out in front--do you try and play clean and just try to skip out round him to get the ball? Or do you dig him in the ribs to break free before making the run? Do you elbow him in the ribs? Do you elbow back accross his face? Or do you play clean and get called ashore before half time?

It's a issue that needs looked at as BC1 said --i've often been dug at and dug back in ribs etc--but never with any real malice like i want to hospitalise someone--it's often like an unwritten agreement that "we'll dig each other hard here but not our hardest, it's what has always been done and it's what we'll do".

The difficulty is when a back is standing behind a forward, he's nipping at him etc ,a forward digs him/elbows him back to show he's not gonna take it but then the forward is watching the game in front of him--if you get the wrong, mentally unhinged, kn**ker marking you, you may then get a full, knock-out blow to the head from behind that could badly injure you or potentially kill you.

Obviously in this case it was a back who was horrifically assaulted but you know what i mean.

You go out to play a game of football, its ruined by some bollix hangin off you, it's a league game with no neutral umpires, the ref is never gonna see the boy pullin at you (will only ever see your retaliation), you have to use a bit of violence to break free or you'll be whipped off, but where does the level of violence become unacceptable/dangerous/potentially fatal?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 20, 2010, 06:20:16 PM
Ballyhegan 0-7 Harps 3.9.  Our best performance of the year by a long way, still  6 or 7 boys missing as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 20, 2010, 06:29:45 PM

ACL Division 4: St Patrick's II 1-16 Phelim Brady's 1-5

The Division 4 side were hoping to build on last week's encouraging away victory as they hosted Phelim Brady's in perfect conditions on Sunday afternoon. As has invariably been the case this season, Cullyhanna were forced into a number of personnel and positional changes but these did not seem to negatively affect the side who produced a very creditable performance to run out easy victors. The opening exchanges were even enough with the sides exchanging two points a piece early on. James Thompson opened the scoring for Cullyhanna and his kick was followed by a great passage of football beginning with a great pass from goalkeeper Tony Durnin to Brendan Nugent whose forceful run resulted in an excellent Sean Nugent score. The Cullyhanna men began to seize control of affairs in the second quarter as points from Anthony Quinn, Miceal Connolly and Shane O'Neill powered them into the lead. Phelim Brady's responded with two scores but St Pat's finished the stronger of the sides as Brendan Murray kicked a free and a superb point from play to send Cullyhanna in at the break with a deserved lead of 0-8 to 0-4.

The second half started in a similar vein to the first with a James Thompson point. Second half substitute Cathal O'Neill wasted no time in making an impact on his first appearance for the side as he waltzed through the Darkley defence for a point to extend his side's advantage to 6. The result was put completely beyond doubt after 7 minutes of the second half when Anthony Quinn was dragged to the ground and Cathal O'Neill made no mistake in finding the net from the resultant penalty. By this stage the Cullyhanna men were in total control and added points through Kevin Toner, Cathal O'Neill and a long range Shane O'Neill score. To their credit, Phelim Brady's fought back and managed to force a goal but Cathal McGlade replied for Cullyhanna with a good point. Brady's labour was rewarded with a further point however Cullyhanna finished the stronger as points from Brendan Murray and Shane O'Neill meant that they ran out comfortable winners.

This was a decent performance against a side who had posed Cullyhanna problems on the opening evening of the season. With the Junior championship looming, it was encouraging to see a free-scoring performance which will hopefully be repeated in the weeks to come.

Starting XV: T Durnin; D Quinn, T Toner, C Durnin; J Quinn, F Nugent, S Nugent (0-1); M McConville, K Toner (0-1); B Murray (0-3), M Connolly (0-2), B Nugent, J Thompson (0-2), S O'Neill (0-3), A Quinn (0-1). Subs Used C O'Neill (1-2), C McGlade (0-1)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 20, 2010, 07:12:04 PM
Clans beat Cruppen by 8 points  ;) sweet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 20, 2010, 07:16:20 PM
Cruppen 1.10 Clans 1.18 - great performance, makes up for the debacle last week. Well done lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 20, 2010, 07:57:59 PM
Sarsfield's beat Pearse Og 2-11 0-14 i think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on June 20, 2010, 08:24:23 PM
maghery 3-11 killeavy 2-5 good enough performance from maghery could be better, killeavy poor got their goals injury time half time and full time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ArmaghGAAforum on June 20, 2010, 09:10:01 PM
Armagh Club Fixtures for w/e Sunday 20 June 2010 (http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/armagh-club-fixtures-w-e-sunday-20-june-2010-a-546/)


Armagh ACL Tables as at Sunday 20 June 2010  (http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/armagh-acl-tables-sunday-20-june-2010-a-547/)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 20, 2010, 10:37:06 PM
granemore leading 5 - 1 at half time and opening up a 6 pt lead in the 2 nd half somehow lost this home game to c eireann 0-8 - 0-10 and even saw a last minute penalty come of the crossbar . the match was poorly referred by a ballymacnab offical  ??? . not mr beds , how on earth was a man from your own parish and from your biggest rivals allowed to referre this match ? when surely it should have been a south armagh ref .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on June 21, 2010, 06:56:41 AM
Exactly correct,imagine giving you a penalty in the last minute, and then making you miss it!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 21, 2010, 09:23:48 AM
Quote from: JUst retired on June 21, 2010, 06:56:41 AM
Exactly correct,imagine giving you a penalty in the last minute, and then making you miss it!!!! ;D

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on June 21, 2010, 11:27:04 AM
ogs v sarsfields game was entertaining enough. referee was 45 mins late, sarsfields were 3 nil up after 10 minutes then ogs went up a gear and went in at half time 8 3 up. sarsfields rallied and there was a scramble in ogs defence. sarsfield umpire said the ball crossed the line and ref gave a goal. even the sarsfields players acknowledged that it didnt cross the line. that left the sides level. ogs went up the pitch and notched up another 2 scores and then sarsfields scored another scrappy goal which looked to be a square ball. one umpire said it was the other said it wasnt. goal was given. ogs were missing a lot of players but should have won the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 21, 2010, 12:04:41 PM
Quote from: davo on June 21, 2010, 11:27:04 AM
ogs v sarsfields game was entertaining enough. referee was 45 mins late, sarsfields were 3 nil up after 10 minutes then ogs went up a gear and went in at half time 8 3 up. sarsfields rallied and there was a scramble in ogs defence. sarsfield umpire said the ball crossed the line and ref gave a goal. even the sarsfields players acknowledged that it didnt cross the line. that left the sides level. ogs went up the pitch and notched up another 2 scores and then sarsfields scored another scrappy goal which looked to be a square ball. one umpire said it was the other said it wasnt. goal was given. ogs were missing a lot of players but should have won the game.

Who was the ref Davo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 21, 2010, 01:03:52 PM
Seamus O'Neill...few hometown decisions given alright
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on June 21, 2010, 06:32:32 PM
good 2 see the north armagh teams holding their own in div 1 long may it continue  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 21, 2010, 10:15:01 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on June 21, 2010, 09:23:48 AM
Quote from: JUst retired on June 21, 2010, 06:56:41 AM
Exactly correct,imagine giving you a penalty in the last minute, and then making you miss it!!!! ;D

:D :D :D
yeah yeah , the same ref would  probably  had it retaken if we had,ve scored  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 22, 2010, 08:59:34 AM
torres lookin dodgy for promotion now, you s seem to have went back from last years position. bridge and the harps seem to have moved into the reckoning big time but all 3 teams seem to be throwing away big leads and losing alot of games. it should be an interesting 2nd half to the season. the tullysarren hype seems to be losing momentum in division 3.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on June 22, 2010, 10:55:01 AM
 Wouldnt rule out Granmemore, if Armagh get knocked out theyl have big Toner back in. Also the Nab have McCone  back playing so will take a bit of beating. Altho Harps seem to be getting injured players back and throw in Vernon and Swift and theyl def make a late push. Newtown had good start but have fallen away too. Pick between Peters/Keady/B'hegan to go down

Whats this about Tullysarron hype? Surely theres hype about them evry year and never ever deliver, altho i believe young Comiskey is carrying them in alot of matches, if hes fit theyl could take Junior and push for promotion but I'll not hold my breath, i tip them most years and they falter at some stage!

Any more updates on young Nugent?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 22, 2010, 12:57:44 PM
border i think that st peters and bhegan are certs to go down, keady will get their customary results like madden last sunday to survive. the hype refers to their reports in the local papers when after a win you would think they where county champions ( but no report on the bad results a bit like another club i know) and also they have recruited a high profile manager this year and expect success. Nab are certs for promotion but i wouldn't rule out the bridge for a close call with gmore and the harps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BNAB10 on June 22, 2010, 05:06:39 PM
Quote from: torres on June 21, 2010, 10:15:01 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on June 21, 2010, 09:23:48 AM
Quote from: JUst retired on June 21, 2010, 06:56:41 AM
Exactly correct,imagine giving you a penalty in the last minute, and then making you miss it!!!! ;D

:D :D :D
yeah yeah , the same ref would  probably  had it retaken if we had,ve scored  ;)
tony o'hare is down as an ogs ref, and often refereed our underage games, a lot of the time very harsh against us. sour grapes torres. use should have had the game wrapped up with 15 mins left
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 23, 2010, 08:44:17 AM
tony is one of the better referees about. one thing for sure he does not side for teams unlike some of our lurgan referees ps o,neill at sarsfields on sunday even the trasna men wer bemused.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on June 23, 2010, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 22, 2010, 08:59:34 AM
torres lookin dodgy for promotion now, you s seem to have went back from last years position. bridge and the harps seem to have moved into the reckoning big time but all 3 teams seem to be throwing away big leads and losing alot of games. it should be an interesting 2nd half to the season. the tullysarren hype seems to be losing momentum in division 3.

Seems to be correct.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 23, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 22, 2010, 12:57:44 PM
border i think that st peters and bhegan are certs to go down, keady will get their customary results like madden last sunday to survive. the hype refers to their reports in the local papers when after a win you would think they where county champions ( but no report on the bad results a bit like another club i know) and also they have recruited a high profile manager this year and expect success. Nab are certs for promotion but i wouldn't rule out the bridge for a close call with gmore and the harps.

I think you had Ballyhegan as certs last year to go down...  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 23, 2010, 02:11:39 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 23, 2010, 08:44:17 AM
tony is one of the better referees about. one thing for sure he does not side for teams unlike some of our lurgan referees ps o,neill at sarsfields on sunday even the trasna men wer bemused.

It's funny how that works wanderer as the North Armagh clubs all think the South Armagh ref's give them the raw deal and there's a lot more of them ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 23, 2010, 10:24:29 PM
Pearse Ogs beat Mullaghbawn 11 - 7 tonight in the B championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 23, 2010, 10:28:27 PM
Clans beat sarsfields in the b's by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 23, 2010, 10:37:19 PM
St Patrick's 2-13 Maghery 1-14 after extra time in the B Championship. Great tough exciting game of football with a fair bit of controversy thrown in for good measure. Our lads showed amazing courage and determination to fight back with 14 men after a very strange sending off in the first half. Thoroughly enjoyable game of football.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 23, 2010, 10:56:21 PM
Tullysaran beat Middletown by 6 tonight in the b championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 24, 2010, 09:12:44 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 23, 2010, 02:11:39 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 23, 2010, 08:44:17 AM
tony is one of the better referees about. one thing for sure he does not side for teams unlike some of our lurgan referees ps o,neill at sarsfields on sunday even the trasna men wer bemused.

It's funny how that works wanderer as the North Armagh clubs all think the South Armagh ref's give them the raw deal and there's a lot more of them ;)
i would have to agree with you there we do experience that as well. but as one of your colleagues stated a home town refereeing decisions beat us on sunday even the home club agreed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 24, 2010, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 23, 2010, 10:28:27 PM
Clans beat sarsfields in the b's by 2

What a game, Clans winning by about 11Pt's at half time and decided not to play in the 2nd half and i suppose a bit of credit has to go to Sarsfields for their come back as with 2 mins to go Sarsfields were winning by a point but we showed a we bit of composure and will to win by scoring 3 Pt's in a row to win it by 2Pt's. 2nd half performance won't beat anyone else left in the competition thats for sure
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 24, 2010, 09:38:34 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 23, 2010, 10:37:19 PM
St Patrick's 2-13 Maghery 1-14 after extra time in the B Championship. Great tough exciting game of football with a fair bit of controversy thrown in for good measure. Our lads showed amazing courage and determination to fight back with 14 men after a very strange sending off in the first half. Thoroughly enjoyable game of football.

Is that St Pats 3rds team?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on June 24, 2010, 10:00:56 AM
They may lose a few Players after the first round of the junior championship is played el.. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 24, 2010, 10:08:47 AM
When is the draw for the next round?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 24, 2010, 10:40:47 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 24, 2010, 09:38:34 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 23, 2010, 10:37:19 PM
St Patrick's 2-13 Maghery 1-14 after extra time in the B Championship. Great tough exciting game of football with a fair bit of controversy thrown in for good measure. Our lads showed amazing courage and determination to fight back with 14 men after a very strange sending off in the first half. Thoroughly enjoyable game of football.

Is that St Pats 3rds team?

A mixture of senior subs, some of the Div 4 side and some other lads, young and old thrown together.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on June 24, 2010, 05:41:48 PM
good game last night between maghery and st pats though the ref  ??? had a stinker ,he sent st pats for running into him knocking him 2 the ground when it was he who was in the road it was the worst sending off i have ever seen complete joke, he then went on 2 let everything go in the game including ignoring most rules of the game which cost us dear near the end of extra time when st pats got their winning goal from a sideline when the st pats player was 10 yards on the pitch when he sent in a long ball which their full forward reacted quickest to get on the end of it 2 fist it in2 the net >:(
Fair play st pats and all the best in the remainder of the championship .. another thing r 2 on the ref ??? he gave the score at half time as 8-6 2 maghery then 10 mins into 2nd half said it was 9-9 when both teams had scored 2 points each then at full time he went 2 walk off the pitch and when asked about extra time said what you looking play extra time in a league game for :D :D wtf ;D fitz and winsam love 2 hate this man and wont be suprised with this  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on June 24, 2010, 06:34:25 PM
Unbelievable second half from the clans. Just didn't turn up! The first half would have beat
most but the second wouldn't beat an under 14 side!! Any word on when the draw is?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 24, 2010, 06:53:43 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on June 24, 2010, 05:41:48 PM
good game last night between maghery and st pats though the ref  ??? had a stinker ,he sent st pats for running into him knocking him 2 the ground when it was he who was in the road it was the worst sending off i have ever seen complete joke, he then went on 2 let everything go in the game including ignoring most rules of the game which cost us dear near the end of extra time when st pats got their winning goal from a sideline when the st pats player was 10 yards on the pitch when he sent in a long ball which their full forward reacted quickest to get on the end of it 2 fist it in2 the net >:(
Fair play st pats and all the best in the remainder of the championship .. another thing r 2 on the ref ??? he gave the score at half time as 8-6 2 maghery then 10 mins into 2nd half said it was 9-9 when both teams had scored 2 points each then at full time he went 2 walk off the pitch and when asked about extra time said what you looking play extra time in a league game for :D :D wtf ;D fitz and winsam love 2 hate this man and wont be suprised with this  ;) ;)

I know who you mean lad and it doesn't surprise me in the sightest  ;) ;) :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 24, 2010, 09:29:32 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 24, 2010, 09:12:44 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 23, 2010, 02:11:39 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 23, 2010, 08:44:17 AM
tony is one of the better referees about. one thing for sure he does not side for teams unlike some of our lurgan referees ps o,neill at sarsfields on sunday even the trasna men wer bemused.

It's funny how that works wanderer as the North Armagh clubs all think the South Armagh ref's give them the raw deal and there's a lot more of them ;)
i would have to agree with you there we do experience that as well. but as one of your colleagues stated a home town refereeing decisions beat us on sunday even the home club agreed
I thought the wanderer and the Ogs didn't do excuses? Now you're whinging about refs as well as injuries - anything else? dry them ffs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on June 24, 2010, 10:18:28 PM
UMHC Final - 27.06.10
Armagh v Antrim
Casement Park @ 1.30pm

All support welcome!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 25, 2010, 09:25:54 AM
benny it was clans men who mentioned the home team biased ref first. but its one thing complaining about the ref in a division 1 match but complaining all the time about a 2nd division team who felt it was only a matter of turning up this year and so called injuries to players who are really only b players :) looks like a big meeting again this year, armagh dismissed the clowns and they found a new circus ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 25, 2010, 09:45:34 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 25, 2010, 09:25:54 AM
benny it was clans men who mentioned the home team biased ref first. but its one thing complaining about the ref in a division 1 match but complaining all the time about a 2nd division team who felt it was only a matter of turning up this year and so called injuries to players who are really only b players :) looks like a big meeting again this year, armagh dismissed the clowns and they found a new circus ;D

Not that it matters a whole lot wanderer but it was infact yourself who mentioned the ref at the Sarsefields game first not clans men, read last page :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 25, 2010, 10:17:32 AM
There were bad decisions in that game, but we've only ourselves to blame.  We only really played well for about 10 or 15 mins, the rest of the time we were on the back foot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 25, 2010, 12:44:26 PM
el i agree certainly that the refs silly decisions should not have made a difference but they did ie the 2 goals. however we certainly need to improve our scoring chances percentage and also silly mistakes at the back especially some poor distribution and over carrying out of defence. it will be a difficult game tonight with the extra injuries and magherys current form.  but lets hope we can win to avoid red neds chief slagger robinson. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hound of ulster on June 25, 2010, 01:27:20 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 25, 2010, 12:44:26 PM
el i agree certainly that the refs silly decisions should not have made a difference but they did ie the 2 goals. however we certainly need to improve our scoring chances percentage and also silly mistakes at the back especially some poor distribution and over carrying out of defence. it will be a difficult game tonight with the extra injuries and magherys current form.  but lets hope we can win to avoid red neds chief slagger robinson. ;D
gettint the excuses in early  ::)heard there has been a big meeting already out your rd wanderer ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 25, 2010, 05:25:11 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on June 25, 2010, 01:27:20 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 25, 2010, 12:44:26 PM
el i agree certainly that the refs silly decisions should not have made a difference but they did ie the 2 goals. however we certainly need to improve our scoring chances percentage and also silly mistakes at the back especially some poor distribution and over carrying out of defence. it will be a difficult game tonight with the extra injuries and magherys current form.  but lets hope we can win to avoid red neds chief slagger robinson. ;D
gettint the excuses in early  ::)heard there has been a big meeting already out your rd wanderer ;)

Big Meeting?  Why was I not informed?  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 25, 2010, 09:03:40 PM
Clans beat whitecross by 2 points get in
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on June 25, 2010, 09:44:25 PM
Tir na nOg drew with the Harps thanks to a lastminute goal from Brian Mallon I hear
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 25, 2010, 09:51:09 PM
Clans beat Whitecross.
Made hard work of it. Whitecross harshly down to 13 men and showed plenty of fight. Always good to play clean bad and still win though.

Word on grapevine is that St Pat's were stuffing Sarsfield's at ht.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 25, 2010, 10:31:25 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 25, 2010, 09:45:34 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 25, 2010, 09:25:54 AM
benny it was clans men who mentioned the home team biased ref first. but its one thing complaining about the ref in a division 1 match but complaining all the time about a 2nd division team who felt it was only a matter of turning up this year and so called injuries to players who are really only b players :) looks like a big meeting again this year, armagh dismissed the clowns and they found a new circus ;D

Not that it matters a whole lot wanderer but it was infact yourself who mentioned the ref at the Sarsefields game first not clans men, read last page :P
Wanderer's a liar as well as full of shite? Never. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 25, 2010, 10:35:30 PM
Pearse Og 2.10 Maghery 1.13
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on June 26, 2010, 02:24:58 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 25, 2010, 10:35:30 PM
Pearse Og 2.10 Maghery 1.13
best game i have seen all year 2 good footballing teams going all out attacking each other from start 2 finish. great game 2 watch ogs goal 1st half was a great move from defence right threw til the ball hit the net. draw at half time maghery came out 2nd half and hit the net straight away then ogs from the kick out won the ball and got a goal in reply both teams must take great credit for such quality shown with both teams missing a good few starters draw was fair result in the end
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 26, 2010, 12:20:07 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 25, 2010, 09:03:40 PM
Clans beat whitecross by 2 points get in


Clans won by 4 points - 11-7. Two league points but poor enough performance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Real1995 on June 26, 2010, 12:50:20 PM
Mullaghbawn beat Cullaville by a point...could have easily won by more....at bit of momentum now at last...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 26, 2010, 05:16:54 PM
Clans 12-8 whitecross official. Bad performance r not saan it's two welcome points as you say
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: úllord on June 26, 2010, 10:47:10 PM
Armagh 5-18  Sligo 1-18

Interviews with players and management after the game today.

Wel done to the lads, who play London next Saturday in Croke Park in the Nicky Rackard Cup final

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO---Armagh-5-18--Sligo-1-18.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on June 27, 2010, 02:06:35 PM
Antrim 0-10 0-7 Armagh half time in the Ulster minor hurling final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on June 27, 2010, 02:52:06 PM
All over Antrim 2-19 0-10 Armagh. Scoreline very flattering to Antrim, they were just that bit more composed than Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on June 27, 2010, 04:55:46 PM
Photos of Ladies Charity match between Armagh Harps and Pearse Og, monies raised go to the Cancer Unit in belfast.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157624368542148/detail/

Was run in conjunction with a 7 a side soccer competition, the highlight of which for me was Diz taking penalities  ;D have still to sort out the photos of that match, if interested keep an eye to my flickr page


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 28, 2010, 08:42:50 AM
benny theres one big liar on this board and ask dynesy u give him his backing last year and then fell in behind the messiah. looks like the pressure is mounting, i hear the honest people in the club are gettin restless another poor result but sure maybe you s had 20 missing. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 28, 2010, 08:48:38 AM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on June 26, 2010, 02:24:58 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on June 25, 2010, 10:35:30 PM
Pearse Og 2.10 Maghery 1.13
best game i have seen all year 2 good footballing teams going all out attacking each other from start 2 finish. great game 2 watch ogs goal 1st half was a great move from defence right threw til the ball hit the net. draw at half time maghery came out 2nd half and hit the net straight away then ogs from the kick out won the ball and got a goal in reply both teams must take great credit for such quality shown with both teams missing a good few starters draw was fair result in the end
was a very entertaining game with end to end action. a draw was a fair result although ogs will be disappointed to give away the last 2 scores.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 28, 2010, 12:50:58 PM
Ballyhegan drew 14 points a piece with Ballymacnab on Friday night. Probably should have won it, though a draw is fair enough.

Super game of football. Paddy McKeever was excellent for Davitts. Young McParland was hard to handle for the 'Nab. No Grugan &  Brian McCone was kept quiet enough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 28, 2010, 02:16:44 PM
25 Jun 2010  Round 12    Armagh Harps  1 - 11  V  1 - 11  Tir na nÓg 
25 Jun 2010  Round 12    Ballymacnab Round Towers  0 - 14  V  0 - 14  Ballyhegan Davitts 
25 Jun 2010  Round 12    Clann Eireann (Lurgan)  1 - 9  V  0 - 8  Wolfe Tones Derrymacash/De Bhulbh Ton Doire Mhic 
25 Jun 2010  Round 12    Naomh Peadar An Lorgáin  1 - 11  V  0 - 8  Madden Raperees 


I'm surprised with Madden's results recently!


Boyle Transport ACL Division 2
Team name P W D L F A +/- Pts
Ballymacnab Round Towers  12  11  1  0  188  133  55  23 
Armagh Harps  12  7  1  4  171  152  19  15 
Granemore St Mary's  11  7  0  4  156  122  34  14 
Na Clairsigh Béal Átha an Airgid  11  6  2  3  126  108  18  14 
Clann Eireann (Lurgan)  12  6  1  5  151  151  0  13 
Newtownhamilton St Michael's  11  5  1  5  132  129  3  11 
Tir na nÓg  12  4  3  5  147  150  -3  11 
Wolfe Tones Derrymacash/De Bhulbh Ton Doire Mhic  11  5  0  6  143  143  0  10 
Keady Michael Dwyers  10  4  1  5  116  131  -15  9 
Madden Raperees  12  4  0  8  135  148  -13  8 
Ballyhegan Davitts  11  1  2  8  124  159  -35  4 
Naomh Peadar An Lorgáin  11  2  0  9  96  159  -63  4 

I think Ballyhegan are actually on 6 points, as they've got the points from the Keady no show.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 28, 2010, 06:18:19 PM
Armagh Club Fixtures for w/e Tuesday 6 July 2010

Tuesday 29 June
ACL – Div. I (7.30)
Whitecross v St Patrick's (Seamus O'Neill)
ACL – Div. II (7.30)
Silverbridge v St Michael's (Jim Burns)

Wednesday 30 June
ACL – Div. I (7.30)
Mullaghbawn v Crossmaglen (Dessie McDonnell)
ACL – Div. III (7.30)
Lissummon v Forkhill (Barney Henry)
ACBFL – Section A (7.30)
Wolfe Tone v Clann Eireann (Seamus O'Neill)
Tir na nÓg v Eire Og (Eamon Nugent)
Sarsfields v St Paul's (Mickey Leonard)
St Peter's v Maghery (Stephen Murray)
ACBFL – Section B (7.30)
Collegeland v An Port Mor (Kevin McNeice)
Ballyhegan v Annaghmore (Barry Shannon)
Pearse Og v Tullysaran (Raymond Watters)
ACBFL – Section C (7.30)
Granemore v Keady (Paul Boylan)
Ballymacnab v Madden (Stephen McKinley)
Whitecross v St Michael's (Noel Martin)
ACBFL – Section D (7.30)
Silverbridge v Crossmaglen (Vincent O'Neill)
Carrickcruppen v Belleek (Jim Lynch)
St Patrick's v Dromintee (Oliver Hearty)

Friday 2 July
ACL – Div. IV (7.30)
Killean v Derrynoose (Vincent O'Neill)
ACBFL – Section D (7.30)
Mullaghbawn v Culloville (Kevin Murtagh)

Saturday 3 July
ACL – Div. I (7.15)
Dromintee v Pearse Og (Dessie McDonnell)

Sunday 4 July
ACL – Div. I (2.00)
Whitecross v Sarsfields (Stephen McKinley)
Mullaghbawn v Killeavy (Stephen Murray)
Carrickcruppen v Culloville (Damian McConville)
Clan na Gael v Crossmaglen (Eamon Nugent)
ACL – Div. II (2.00)
Madden v Silverbridge (Raymond Watters)
Tir na nÓg v St Michael's (Noel Martin)
Granemore v St Peter's (Kevin Murtagh)
Keady v Wolfe Tone (Mickey Leonard)
Ballyhegan v Clann Eireann (Tony O'Hare)
Armagh Harps v Ballymacnab (Gary Smith)
ACL – Div. III (2.00)
Lissummon v Tullysaran (Seamus O'Neill)
Belleek v Middletown (Vincent O'Neill)
Collegeland v St Paul's (Jim Slevin)
Eire Og v Forkhill (Paul Boylan)
Annaghmore v Clonmore (Ger Devlin)
An Port Mor v Shane O'Neill's (Keith Smith)
ACL – Div. IV (2.00)
St Patrick's II v Grange (Rory Robinson)
O'Hanlon's v Phelim Brady's (Kevin Gallogly)
Mullabrack v Dorsey Emmett's (Jim Lynch)
Killeavy II v Killean (Barney Henry)
Derrynoose v Clady (Paudie Hughes)
Crossmaglen II v Corrinshego (Kevin McNeice)

Tuesday 6 July
ACL – Div. I (7.30)
Maghery v St Patrick's (Kevin Gallogly)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on June 28, 2010, 06:19:08 PM
Armagh ACL Tables as at Sunday 27 June 2010

Division I
Team P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 9 9 0 0 18
Maghery 12 6 3 3 15
Pearse Og 12 7 1 4 15
Whitecross 9 6 0 3 12
Clan na Gael 11 6 0 5 12
Carrickcruppen 11 5 1 5 11
Dromintee 10 5 0 5 10
Culloville 11 5 0 6 10
Mullaghbawn 11 4 0 7 8
St Patrick's 10 3 1 6 7
Sarsfields 12 3 1 8 7
Killeavy 12 2 1 9 5

Division II
Team P W D L Pts
Ballymacnab 12 11 1 0 23
Armagh Harps 12 7 1 4 15
Granemore 11 7 0 4 14
Silverbridge 11 6 2 3 14
Clann Eireann 12 6 1 5 13
St Michael's 11 5 1 5 11
Tir na nÓg 12 4 3 5 11
Wolfe Tone 11 5 0 6 10
Keady 11 4 1 6 9
Madden 12 4 0 8 8
Ballyhegan 12 2 2 8 6
St Peter's 11 2 0 9 4

Division III
Team P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 12 11 0 1 22
Middletown 11 7 1 3 15
Tullysaran 11 7 1 3 15
Collegeland 12 7 1 4 15
Annaghmore 12 6 0 6 12
St Paul's 12 5 1 6 11
Forkhill 11 5 0 6 10
Lissummon 11 4 2 5 10
An Port Mor 12 3 2 7 8
Eire Og 11 2 3 6 7
Belleek 12 3 1 8 7
Clonmore 11 2 2 7 6

Division IV
Team P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen II 11 10 1 0 21
Grange 12 10 0 2 20
Derrynoose 11 8 1 2 17
Killeavy II 12 8 1 3 17
St Patrick's II 12 7 0 5 14
Dorsey Emmett's 10 6 1 3 13
Corrinshego 12 5 2 5 12
Killean 11 2 4 5 8
O'Hanlon's 12 2 3 7 7
Clady 11 2 2 7 6
Mullabrack 12 1 1 10 3
Phelim Brady's 12 0 0 12 0

http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/armagh-acl-tables-sunday-27-june-2010-a-565/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 28, 2010, 10:20:53 PM
Clann Eireann v St Pats
Pearse Og's v A Harps
Eire Og v Clans
St Pauls v Tullysaran

B Championship draw
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 29, 2010, 10:10:22 AM
st pauls, tullysarren in q/f seems strange as 3rd div teams or did they get easy fixtures earlier. favs have to be ogs, harps, clans. are st pats able to play their div4 team until they play in the junior championship if so a bit unfair on teams they have played prior to junior starting?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 29, 2010, 11:36:28 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 29, 2010, 10:10:22 AM
st pauls, tullysarren in q/f seems strange as 3rd div teams or did they get easy fixtures earlier. favs have to be ogs, harps, clans. are st pats able to play their div4 team until they play in the junior championship if so a bit unfair on teams they have played prior to junior starting?
The scrams would be strong enough at B level. Fancy St Pat's, Ogs, Clans and St Paul's for the semi's. Don't think its unfair that St Pat's can play their Div 4 team as they probably had those same players last year playing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 29, 2010, 11:44:21 AM
Fitz not trying to be negative about st. pats just an observation that when the junior starts which is before the b final the st. pats b team will be weakened greatly. scrams? where did that name come from. :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 29, 2010, 11:49:51 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 29, 2010, 11:44:21 AM
Fitz not trying to be negative about st. pats just an observation that when the junior starts which is before the b final the st. pats b team will be weakened greatly. scrams? where did that name come from. :-\
Well that would be an awful pity for St Pat's then wouldnt it  :P
We call them the Scrams because of the fine tradition Taghnevan playing fields had as a race course for scrams/quads over the years!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 29, 2010, 12:24:06 PM
What date is the junior championship? as St Pats should lose a few players there alright, without that St Pats would be very strong and are strongly fancied to beat Clan Eireann.

The Og's and Harps game is the tie of the round without a doubt, they are the two favourites for the competition. It depends how many the Og's have lost compared to last years winning team, as a guess I'm gonna say the Harps to win by 2pts

Clans and Eire Og...Clans will be favourites for this tie but it depends on what Clans team turns up, Eire Og have a half decent team and are capable of beating Clans but I'd say the clans with their unpredictable team should win by 2-3pts

St Paul's v Tullysaran should be a good game but TBH i don't know a whole lot about Tullysaran so can't comment on them, St Paul's are decent and I'd fancy them to win as St Paul's are fairly decent at B level (again maybe someone can tell us a bit about Tullysaran)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on June 29, 2010, 01:26:52 PM
Tullysarron is a small rural club on the Armagh / Tyrone border, you need to travel a bit more! Anyway football wise (i stand corrected) but think they are the only club in whole of Armagh never to have won a championship! They'd good underage teams a few years back but appear to have imploded. Maybe theyre putting a big push on the B's as a way of getting their hands on a championship. I always put a bloody bet on them to win the Junior but wasted money (them and Dromintee but stopped that a few years ago).

The real final is Harpos Army v Ogs Pre-senior Post-minor Near-Retirement Development Reserve B Team! What about Clans - Ogs final?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 29, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
Quote from: border rabbit on June 29, 2010, 01:26:52 PM
Tullysarron is a small rural club on the Armagh / Tyrone border, you need to travel a bit more! Anyway football wise (i stand corrected) but think they are the only club in whole of Armagh never to have won a championship! They'd good underage teams a few years back but appear to have imploded. Maybe theyre putting a big push on the B's as a way of getting their hands on a championship. I always put a bloody bet on them to win the Junior but wasted money (them and Dromintee but stopped that a few years ago).

The real final is Harpos Army v Ogs Pre-senior Post-minor Near-Retirement Development Reserve B Team! What about Clans - Ogs final?

I know where Tullysaran are BR, infact i've done work for them. I just don't know anything about their teams...Espicially their B Team.

I'd take an Og's v Clans final...Correct
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 29, 2010, 02:21:34 PM
Quote from: border rabbit on June 29, 2010, 01:26:52 PM
I always put a bloody bet on them to win the Junior but wasted money (them and Dromintee but stopped that a few years ago).


A fool and his money are soon parted :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Any craic on June 29, 2010, 03:08:06 PM
http://ulster.gaa.ie/// - Armagh in the Ulster Minor Hurling Final, giving Antrim a fright. Fair play, great to see.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 29, 2010, 04:48:48 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on June 29, 2010, 11:49:51 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 29, 2010, 11:44:21 AM
Fitz not trying to be negative about st. pats just an observation that when the junior starts which is before the b final the st. pats b team will be weakened greatly. scrams? where did that name come from. :-\
Well that would be an awful pity for St Pat's then wouldnt it  :P
We call them the Scrams because of the fine tradition Taghnevan playing fields had as a race course for scrams/quads over the years!
dont think you ll be calling them scrams any more. seen their new facilities a real credit to them best in north armagh. fair play to them the old drinking club must be going well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 30, 2010, 10:05:42 AM
Yes Wanderer the St Paul's club have now facilities to rival the top clubs in any county and fair play to them, they've worked hard and put a lot of their own money into it and it was long over due for them. In fairness they received a fair bit of funding too but the long battle with Craigavion Borough Council to get the pitches has paid off. It's great to see the GAA clubs doing so well and having facilities that the soccer clubs envy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 30, 2010, 09:18:49 PM
Division 1

Cross beat Mullabawn tonight 1-12 to 1-7.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Erwin Rommel on June 30, 2010, 11:35:49 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 28, 2010, 08:42:50 AM
benny theres one big liar on this board and ask dynesy u give him his backing last year and then fell in behind the messiah. looks like the pressure is mounting, i hear the honest people in the club are gettin restless another poor result but sure maybe you s had 20 missing. ;D

Wonderer still getin his head filled with white mice!!   (http://stage48.net/forum/images/smilies/smilies/emoticon-0136-giggle.gif)

And then act the big fella by repesating what he hears here!

Heard pressure mounting on another manager in the city - discontent rising    (http://portcharlotteracing.net/forums/images/smilies/lynchmob.gif)

shur maybe yell get round to telling us about that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on July 01, 2010, 02:47:51 AM
Does anyone no how that young lad Nugent is doing? And has the couty board done anything about it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 01, 2010, 07:30:15 AM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on June 30, 2010, 11:35:49 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 28, 2010, 08:42:50 AM
benny theres one big liar on this board and ask dynesy u give him his backing last year and then fell in behind the messiah. looks like the pressure is mounting, i hear the honest people in the club are gettin restless another poor result but sure maybe you s had 20 missing. ;D

Wonderer still getin his head filled with white mice!!   (http://stage48.net/forum/images/smilies/smilies/emoticon-0136-giggle.gif)

And then act the big fella by repesating what he hears here!

Heard pressure mounting on another manager in the city - discontent rising    (http://portcharlotteracing.net/forums/images/smilies/lynchmob.gif)

shur maybe yell get round to telling us about that

That's not even a rumour, just bullshit
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 01, 2010, 09:16:23 AM
you are right pressure mounting on another manager in the city " armagh city " were most of you,s clowns play and support.  there,s only one gaa club in the city who make a farce of their management appointments and create enemies for life. Pressure still mounting with hitlers beloved manager struggling in the second. Is the ear pieces still in the assistants ear who must be calling the shots to benny as he did with armagh ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on July 01, 2010, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on June 30, 2010, 11:35:49 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 28, 2010, 08:42:50 AM
benny theres one big liar on this board and ask dynesy u give him his backing last year and then fell in behind the messiah. looks like the pressure is mounting, i hear the honest people in the club are gettin restless another poor result but sure maybe you s had 20 missing. ;D

Wonderer still getin his head filled with white mice!!   (http://stage48.net/forum/images/smilies/smilies/emoticon-0136-giggle.gif)

And then act the big fella by repesating what he hears here!

Heard pressure mounting on another manager in the city - discontent rising    (http://portcharlotteracing.net/forums/images/smilies/lynchmob.gif)

shur maybe yell get round to telling us about that

I know some of them results in division two are shocking!!! But sure maybe another season there to let another new manager blend in wouldn't be a bad thing!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gotthereb4u on July 01, 2010, 10:20:28 AM
Cant believe ogs people are slagging off the harps on this,given thier recent results. Also,take a look at the div 1 table lads,two teams who played division 2 last year are right up there beside use clowns!

And as for pressure mounting on the pearse ogs manager,this is most likely bullshit,but in recent weeks there have been a few rumours of discontent,the same as in any club when going through a run of bad form.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 01, 2010, 11:35:58 AM
gobby gotthereb4u  its not about run of results its friendly banter but you,s wouldnt know about friendly banter as you dont have friends. so clear of back to your own corner or have you converted to the harps u clown. league results dont count for anything unless ur in a position to go down or be promoted. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on July 01, 2010, 11:59:07 AM
Orchard TV speaks to Michael Johnston, Fiachra Bradley and Nathan Curry ahead on Armagh clash with London on Saturday in Croke Park

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--Interviews-ahead-of-Nicky-Rackard-Final.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on July 01, 2010, 05:33:27 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 30, 2010, 10:05:42 AM
Yes Wanderer the St Paul's club have now facilities to rival the top clubs in any county and fair play to them, they've worked hard and put a lot of their own money into it and it was long over due for them. In fairness they received a fair bit of funding too but the long battle with Craigavion Borough Council to get the pitches has paid off. It's great to see the GAA clubs doing so well and having facilities that the soccer clubs envy.

Correct saan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sitdown on July 01, 2010, 06:21:17 PM
Wanderer, if Hitler did have a say, you would be a cert for the chamber. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on July 01, 2010, 09:37:06 PM
Quote from: topgun on July 01, 2010, 02:47:51 AM
Does anyone no how that young lad Nugent is doing? And has the couty board done anything about it?
young kevin has went threw his operation had 2 plates inserted and had his teeth wired,now the long process of recovery and feeding threw a straw which cant be easy for him or his family,however being the lad he is he is always in good spirits and is still going 2 matches to support the boys which cant be easy for a 19yr old who loves the game and should be playing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Erwin Rommel on July 01, 2010, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 01, 2010, 09:16:23 AM
you are right pressure mounting on another manager in the city " armagh city " were most of you,s clowns play and support.  there,s only one gaa club in the city who make a farce of their management appointments and create enemies for life. Pressure still mounting with hitlers beloved manager struggling in the second. Is the ear pieces still in the assistants ear who must be calling the shots to benny as he did with armagh ;D ;D ;D ;D

your m8 tells it differnet  :D

amazing the affect od success   ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on July 01, 2010, 10:25:02 PM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on July 01, 2010, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 01, 2010, 09:16:23 AM
you are right pressure mounting on another manager in the city " armagh city " were most of you,s clowns play and support.  there,s only one gaa club in the city who make a farce of their management appointments and create enemies for life. Pressure still mounting with hitlers beloved manager struggling in the second. Is the ear pieces still in the assistants ear who must be calling the shots to benny as he did with armagh ;D ;D ;D ;D

your m8 tells it differnet  :D

amazing the affect od success   ;)

Sure write a letter to the Gazette about it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Erwin Rommel on July 01, 2010, 10:31:13 PM
Quote from: ogshead on July 01, 2010, 10:25:02 PM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on July 01, 2010, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 01, 2010, 09:16:23 AM
you are right pressure mounting on another manager in the city " armagh city " were most of you,s clowns play and support.  there,s only one gaa club in the city who make a farce of their management appointments and create enemies for life. Pressure still mounting with hitlers beloved manager struggling in the second. Is the ear pieces still in the assistants ear who must be calling the shots to benny as he did with armagh ;D ;D ;D ;D

your m8 tells it differnet  :D

amazing the affect od success   ;)

Sure write a letter to the Gazette about it

Ooooooh anerve touched

its not ment to be like thayt wanderer?    (http://stage48.net/forum/images/smilies/smilies/emoticon-0136-giggle.gif)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 02, 2010, 01:00:51 AM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on July 01, 2010, 09:37:06 PM
Quote from: topgun on July 01, 2010, 02:47:51 AM
Does anyone no how that young lad Nugent is doing? And has the couty board done anything about it?
young kevin has went threw his operation had 2 plates inserted and had his teeth wired,now the long process of recovery and feeding threw a straw which cant be easy for him or his family,however being the lad he is he is always in good spirits and is still going 2 matches to support the boys which cant be easy for a 19yr old who loves the game and should be playing.
What would concern me is the long process of getting back to full fitness, especially at such a young age, he's bound to lose a lot of weight and his moral can't be high. Hateful oul injury that should never have been inflicted, hopefully he'll be back sooner rather than later (getting beat by the Clans  :P )
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 02, 2010, 09:01:14 AM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on July 01, 2010, 10:31:13 PM
Quote from: ogshead on July 01, 2010, 10:25:02 PM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on July 01, 2010, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 01, 2010, 09:16:23 AM
you are right pressure mounting on another manager in the city " armagh city " were most of you,s clowns play and support.  there,s only one gaa club in the city who make a farce of their management appointments and create enemies for life. Pressure still mounting with hitlers beloved manager struggling in the second. Is the ear pieces still in the assistants ear who must be calling the shots to benny as he did with armagh ;D ;D ;D ;D

your m8 tells it differnet  :D

amazing the affect od success   ;)

Sure write a letter to the Gazette about it

Ooooooh anerve touched

its not ment to be like thayt wanderer?    (http://stage48.net/forum/images/smilies/smilies/emoticon-0136-giggle.gif)

just to let u know nuddie has been approached by the ogs manager to see if he will take on the roll of party organiser for the senior team, i hear he does a good job ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on July 02, 2010, 09:55:44 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 02, 2010, 09:01:14 AM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on July 01, 2010, 10:31:13 PM
Quote from: ogshead on July 01, 2010, 10:25:02 PM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on July 01, 2010, 10:10:02 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 01, 2010, 09:16:23 AM
you are right pressure mounting on another manager in the city " armagh city " were most of you,s clowns play and support.  there,s only one gaa club in the city who make a farce of their management appointments and create enemies for life. Pressure still mounting with hitlers beloved manager struggling in the second. Is the ear pieces still in the assistants ear who must be calling the shots to benny as he did with armagh ;D ;D ;D ;D

your m8 tells it differnet  :D

amazing the affect od success   ;)

Sure write a letter to the Gazette about it

Ooooooh anerve touched

its not ment to be like thayt wanderer?    (http://stage48.net/forum/images/smilies/smilies/emoticon-0136-giggle.gif)

sure didnt one of ur mates beg the gazette not to release his name for fear of a hero,s party. ps just to let u know nuddie has been approached by the ogs manager to see if he will take on the roll of party organiser for the senior team, i hear he does a good job ;) ;) ;)

:D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 02, 2010, 10:26:33 AM
sitdown i think ur right  :D but its all in good taste :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: davo on July 02, 2010, 10:30:27 AM
lads i would stop the childish stuff and get back to talking about football. all teams will be judged on this years championship end of story. league results and past glories or failures dont mean squat.

I would say that training for most teams will only really commence now with 6 weeks to championship.

wish young nugent a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hound of ulster on July 02, 2010, 11:08:24 AM
Lads the wanderer is getting out of hand, with the shit stiring the gossip and petty swipes , The only way to deal with this childish behaviour is to ignore it , i suggest we all ignore him until he decides he wants to talk about football like a grown-up,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 02, 2010, 11:31:16 AM
now hound look back recently and see who started the spat. friendly banter but i promise i wont say anything more that might offend my local friends. im off to the chamber to see what happens. on a serious football note does anyone know is kerian toner back in training after his accident
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Piarsaigh Oga on July 02, 2010, 12:03:02 PM
To a particular user who knows who he is! I feel that his childish actions in using a senior players knickname as his username shows complete disregard that you have for that player and your club! To comment on your club matches, i have no problem, but to use a players name and commenting on the matches whether pretending to be this player or not, is unacceptable, ultimately your letting your own club down! By commenting on this palyers games you are letting this player to be questioned by his teammates and coaches as to why he is on discussion boards commenting about his own club in negative ways about matches!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 02, 2010, 12:05:57 PM
Quote from: Piarsaigh Oga on July 02, 2010, 12:03:02 PM
To a particular user who knows who he is! I feel that his childish actions in using a senior players knickname as his username shows complete disregard that you have for that player and your club! To comment on your club matches, i have no problem, but to use a players name and commenting on the matches whether pretending to be this player or not, is unacceptable, ultimately your letting your own club down! By commenting on this palyers games you are letting this player to be questioned by his teammates and coaches as to why he is on discussion boards commenting about his own club in negative ways about matches!

Are you he then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mayo 4 eva on July 02, 2010, 12:16:41 PM
Lads, sorry for the intrusion here, im just wondering where Armagh Harps Gaa Club are situated??  Our clubs ladies U14 team is playing in feile peil na nOg up there this weekend and theres a few of us heading up for the day to support the young ones.  We'd be coming from enniskillen direction. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on July 02, 2010, 12:21:37 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 02, 2010, 12:05:57 PM
Quote from: Piarsaigh Oga on July 02, 2010, 12:03:02 PM
To a particular user who knows who he is! I feel that his childish actions in using a senior players knickname as his username shows complete disregard that you have for that player and your club! To comment on your club matches, i have no problem, but to use a players name and commenting on the matches whether pretending to be this player or not, is unacceptable, ultimately your letting your own club down! By commenting on this palyers games you are letting this player to be questioned by his teammates and coaches as to why he is on discussion boards commenting about his own club in negative ways about matches!

Are you he then?

Surely he'd have been clever enough to put the Na in, in his name  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Piarsaigh Oga on July 02, 2010, 12:24:16 PM
wel considering na piarsaigh oga is already in use..then no i am not clever enough to put Na in my username u muppet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 02, 2010, 12:27:27 PM
in in el i think p oga is right. the user sould not be using a players nickname on the board as it leaves a wrong impression. davo please edit ur name or else stop posting. >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 02, 2010, 12:32:32 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 02, 2010, 12:27:27 PM
in in el i think p oga is right. the user sould not be using a players nickname on the board as it leaves a wrong impression. davo please edit ur name or else stop posting. >:(

funny enough I have questioned the aforementioned davo a few times about the poster on this baord.  He has categorically denied it. 

Did I see someone registered as Harpo on this board before?  Or maybe that was Orchardcounty.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on July 02, 2010, 12:38:14 PM
Quote from: mayo 4 eva on July 02, 2010, 12:16:41 PM
Lads, sorry for the intrusion here, im just wondering where Armagh Harps Gaa Club are situated??  Our clubs ladies U14 team is playing in feile peil na nOg up there this weekend and theres a few of us heading up for the day to support the young ones.  We'd be coming from enniskillen direction. Thanks in advance.

You will likely be going via Aughnacloy and Caledon then. When you come into Armagh keep going on the same road until you see the Athletic grounds on your right. Continue over the bridge in front of you and you will see a big hotel and the RUC station on your right. The right turn will take you to Newry so stay left but immediately after these lights , the signs will likely be saying Dungannon A29 and bus stop so follow that, the road bears right along a row of shops and after 100 yards turn left down the side of the mall. Continue down left hand side of the mall until you come to a roundabout by the courthouse. Go straight over that, continue for another 500 yards until you come to another roundabout with signpost taking you to Dungannon at 10am position and the second exit taking you to Loughall at the sort of 1pm position. Take the second exit and continue for about 400 yards and you will see St Pats primary school on the left and the harps social club opposite. At the school turn left up the hill and as you get to the brow of the hill Abbey Park is through the gates on the left hand side. When the games are done the social club is just back down the hill.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Erwin Rommel on July 02, 2010, 01:50:31 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 02, 2010, 09:01:14 AM
sure didnt one of ur mates beg the gazette not to release his name for fear of a hero,s party. ps just to let u know nuddie has been approached by the ogs manager to see if he will take on the roll of party organiser for the senior team, i hear he does a good job ;) ;) ;)

a bold mlove, but is it to late?  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 02, 2010, 02:07:59 PM
Maddog it might be better to direct him in from Dungannon Roundabout (i know its a few mile longer but better roads and easier for directions) what ya tink?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 02, 2010, 03:02:52 PM
erwin its never toolate and im only being polite nothin more nothin less, do u have something to hide ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 02, 2010, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 02, 2010, 12:27:27 PM
in in el i think p oga is right. the user sould not be using a players nickname on the board as it leaves a wrong impression. davo please edit ur name or else stop posting. >:(
Certain amount of irony in your post, my identity is well known to Harps and Ogs posters alike, yet no Harps or Pearse Og posters know who you are and yet you hide behind your cowardly anonymity with the sole purpose of stirring shite and posting slanderous/libelous garbage that could land a person in bother.  Feel free to contact me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 02, 2010, 04:23:26 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 02, 2010, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 02, 2010, 12:27:27 PM
in in el i think p oga is right. the user sould not be using a players nickname on the board as it leaves a wrong impression. davo please edit ur name or else stop posting. >:(
Certain amount of irony in your post, my identity is well known to Harps and Ogs posters alike, yet no Harps or Pearse Og posters know who you are and yet you hide behind your cowardly anonymity with the sole purpose of stirring shite and posting slanderous/libelous garbage that could land a person in bother.  Feel free to contact me.

:D Very good Benny.  I must admit, I had a wee laugh about that one
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 02, 2010, 04:37:08 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 02, 2010, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 02, 2010, 12:27:27 PM
in in el i think p oga is right. the user sould not be using a players nickname on the board as it leaves a wrong impression. davo please edit ur name or else stop posting. >:(
Certain amount of irony in your post, my identity is well known to Harps and Ogs posters alike, yet no Harps or Pearse Og posters know who you are and yet you hide behind your cowardly anonymity with the sole purpose of stirring shite and posting slanderous/libelous garbage that could land a person in bother.  Feel free to contact me.
what are u taking about, what slanderous garbage are u talking about, check the spirit of the posts.   ps i havent a clue who u are or do i want to know. as regards stirring shit take a look at some of ur own posts before starting cleaner than clean assertions about ur self. but if ur annoyed i will not correspond with u again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Passing_Interest on July 02, 2010, 08:05:51 PM
Wanderer.....a poor man's Tony Fearon
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 02, 2010, 09:34:47 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 28, 2010, 08:42:50 AM
benny theres one big liar on this board and ask dynesy u give him his backing last year and then fell in behind the messiah. looks like the pressure is mounting, i hear the honest people in the club are gettin restless another poor result but sure maybe you s had 20 missing. ;D
This slanderous/libelous garbage, what spirit were you trying to capture here??

You are a cowardly liar who hides behind his anonymity.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Erwin Rommel on July 03, 2010, 12:05:58 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on July 02, 2010, 09:34:47 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 28, 2010, 08:42:50 AM
benny theres one big liar on this board and ask dynesy u give him his backing last year and then fell in behind the messiah. looks like the pressure is mounting, i hear the honest people in the club are gettin restless another poor result but sure maybe you s had 20 missing. ;D
This slanderous/libelous garbage, what spirit were you trying to capture here??

You are a cowardly liar who hides behind his anonymity.

Agreed and a lier as well by the look of things saying he doesnt know who you are benny and then making accusations about what you did.  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on July 03, 2010, 03:50:47 PM
Well done to the Armagh hurlers, winning 3-15 to 3-14 win in the Nicky Rackard Cup final at Croke Park. Lets hope other Armagh teams win there this season.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 03, 2010, 09:48:44 PM
Lets hope other Armagh teams play there this season!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 04, 2010, 04:37:28 PM
Clans stuffed today by cross. Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 04, 2010, 04:43:55 PM
Harps beat Ballymacnab quite easily 0-12 to 0-05

Harps missed a few easy goal chances as well and should have won by alot more. Although a good result and maybe the lads will kick on now and secure that 2nd promotion spot.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 04, 2010, 04:48:16 PM
Dromintee Ogs game ended in a draw. 0-9 each
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on July 04, 2010, 07:11:57 PM
granemore bt st peters by 4 .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on July 05, 2010, 09:43:46 AM
Videos as Armagh march into their second successive Ulster Minor Final by beating Cavan 1-10 to 0-11

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--Minors-reach-Ulster-final-after-overcoming-.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 05, 2010, 02:50:19 PM
Armagh Club Results for w/e Sunday 4 July 2010

Tuesday 29 June
ACL – Div. I
Whitecross 0-9; St Patrick's 0-11
ACL – Div. II
Silverbridge v St Michael's (Off)

Wednesday 30 June
ACL – Div. I
Crossmaglen 1-12; Mullaghbawn 1-7
ACL – Div. III
Lissummon 0-13; Forkhill 3-8
St Paul's 1-7; Eire Og 0-10

Friday 2 July
ACL – Div. IV
Killean v Derrynoose (Off)

Sunday 4 July
ACL – Div. I
Dromintee 0-9; Pearse Og 0-9
Whitecross 1-11; Sarsfields 2-10
Mullaghbawn 2-5; Killeavy 1-9
Carrickcruppen v Culloville (6.00)
Clan na Gael 0-3; Crossmaglen 4-16
ACL – Div. II
Madden 2-8; Silverbridge 0-12
Tir na nÓg 0-14; St Michael's 0-8
Granemore 4-11; St Peter's 2-14
Keady v Wolfe Tone (Off)
Ballyhegan 0-7; Clann Eireann 0-15
Armagh Harps 0-12; Ballymacnab 0-5
ACL – Div. III
Lissummon 0-6; Tullysaran 1-15
Belleek v Middletown (Off)
Collegeland 0-6; St Paul's 0-9
Eire Og 0-13; Forkhill 0-6
Annaghmore 1-9; Clonmore 0-14
An Port Mor 1-5; Shane O'Neill's 1-9
ACL – Div. IV
St Patrick's II 2-8; Grange 1-11
O'Hanlon's 2-8; Phelim Brady's 0-5
Mullabrack v Dorsey Emmett's (Off)
Killeavy II 3-10; Killean 0-5
Derrynoose 2-13; Clady 0-8
Crossmaglen II 2-12; Corrinshego 1-2

http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/armagh-club-results-w-e-sunday-4-july-2010-a-571/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 05, 2010, 03:11:48 PM
Clans had 7 key men off, however although a definite factor thats no excuse. As guttless a performance as your ever likely to see! >:( >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 05, 2010, 11:44:50 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 05, 2010, 03:11:48 PM
Clans had 7 key men off, however although a definite factor thats no excuse. As guttless a performance as your ever likely to see! >:( >:(

I wasn't at the game but I assume Cross were missing a few as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 06, 2010, 12:08:49 AM
Cross had probably more men missing but they are well capable of putting in performances, without these men. Unfortunetly we don't have that luxury and we need to be at full strength or as close to it to get the best out of the team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 06, 2010, 11:00:26 AM
Yeah yous had a few notable absentees alright (Although I dont think yous had as many as 7) - however yous fielded a very strong team which included some current county men and the likes of Oisin, Francie, McKenna etc.

The problem here is that Cross has much more in reserve to call on. Clans with their strongest 15 out are a match for anyone and better than most however as everyone knows its difficult to get your strongest team out on a regular basis.

From Sundays performance its obvious that we cant cope with such an amount of key men missing. The lads that came in were overwhelmed and some of the established players crawled up their own holes and were only too happy to use the excuse of being under strength instead of rolling up the sleeves and getting stuck in.

With the men missing we were never likely to win but we should have put up a much better fight.

Some of our lads conceeded far too easily whcih is a real concern. We need a big response now to get back on track!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on July 06, 2010, 04:30:16 PM
st pats thought dorsey would take the game forward til thursday instead of friday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 06, 2010, 10:59:24 PM
Division 1 St Patrick's 0-10 Maghery 0-10

Draw a fair enough result I suppose. Maghery had the better of the first half though only led by a point at the break while we were dominate for most of the second. Took a last minute free for Maghery to rescue a point. Steffan Forker and Robbie Tasker the stars of the show. Decent result away from home for us - that's 4 unbeaten now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on July 07, 2010, 08:58:07 AM
Orchard TV brings you interviews with Ryan McConville, Caoimhe Morgan and James Daly as the Ladies prepare for an Ulster Final clash with Monaghan this Sunday in Clones

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--Preview-as-Armagh-Ladies-prepare-for-Ulster.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 07, 2010, 09:55:15 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 06, 2010, 10:59:24 PM
Division 1 St Patrick's 0-10 Maghery 0-10

Draw a fair enough result I suppose. Maghery had the better of the first half though only led by a point at the break while we were dominate for most of the second. Took a last minute free for Maghery to rescue a point. Steffan Forker and Robbie Tasker the stars of the show. Decent result away from home for us - that's 4 unbeaten now.

how has tasker been playing the year for you's Tam?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on July 07, 2010, 10:57:01 AM
taskers a gem,,his ability is unreal..
he got his first hat rick at senior level against sarsfields a few weeks ago.
up the pats ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on July 07, 2010, 05:25:15 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 06, 2010, 10:59:24 PM
Division 1 St Patrick's 0-10 Maghery 0-10

Draw a fair enough result I suppose. Maghery had the better of the first half though only led by a point at the break while we were dominate for most of the second. Took a last minute free for Maghery to rescue a point. Steffan Forker and Robbie Tasker the stars of the show. Decent result away from home for us - that's 4 unbeaten now.
football is all about opinions but while tasker was good(future co star theres no doubt) tony donnelly was by far st pats best player and all rounder and for maghery stefan was below par for his standards his young brother sleep and ronan lappin were by far the main men for maghery.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 07, 2010, 05:29:34 PM
B Championship tonight.

Clann Eireann v St Pat = St Pats
P Ogs v Harps = Harps
Eire Og v Clans = Clans
St Pauls v Tullysaran = St Pauls
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 07, 2010, 05:57:58 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on July 07, 2010, 05:25:15 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 06, 2010, 10:59:24 PM
Division 1 St Patrick's 0-10 Maghery 0-10

Draw a fair enough result I suppose. Maghery had the better of the first half though only led by a point at the break while we were dominate for most of the second. Took a last minute free for Maghery to rescue a point. Steffan Forker and Robbie Tasker the stars of the show. Decent result away from home for us - that's 4 unbeaten now.
football is all about opinions but while tasker was good(future co star theres no doubt) tony donnelly was by far st pats best player and all rounder and for maghery stefan was below par for his standards his young brother sleep and ronan lappin were by far the main men for maghery.

Those two boys got the majority of the scores for both sides. Robbie was definitely our best player - he was virtually our only scoring threat throughout. Kicked 0-7 of 0-10, with, from recollection, 0-6 from play and the other a 45m free.

Number 7 for Maghery played very well though.
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Post by: giveherlong on July 07, 2010, 06:15:05 PM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 07, 2010, 09:27:26 PM
Clans B team neat Eire Og by 12 tonight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on July 07, 2010, 09:40:31 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 07, 2010, 05:57:58 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on July 07, 2010, 05:25:15 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 06, 2010, 10:59:24 PM
Division 1 St Patrick's 0-10 Maghery 0-10

Draw a fair enough result I suppose. Maghery had the better of the first half though only led by a point at the break while we were dominate for most of the second. Took a last minute free for Maghery to rescue a point. Steffan Forker and Robbie Tasker the stars of the show. Decent result away from home for us - that's 4 unbeaten now.
football is all about opinions but while tasker was good(future co star theres no doubt) tony donnelly was by far st pats best player and all rounder and for maghery stefan was below par for his standards his young brother sleep and ronan lappin were by far the main men for maghery.

Those two boys got the majority of the scores for both sides. Robbie was definitely our best player - he was virtually our only scoring threat throughout. Kicked 0-7 of 0-10, with, from recollection, 0-6 from play and the other a 45m free.

Number 7 for Maghery played very well though.
yes maghery no 7 was aiden (sleep)forker who plays centre half forward for armagh minors
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on July 07, 2010, 09:44:34 PM
Ogs B team beat the Harps tonight  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 07, 2010, 10:37:55 PM
Clans v St Pats
Ogs v St Pauls/Tullysaran
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on July 07, 2010, 10:51:04 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 07, 2010, 10:37:55 PM
Clans v St Pats
Ogs v St Pauls/Tullysaran

st.pauls tanked tullysaran from what i hear
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 07, 2010, 11:02:55 PM
Repeat of last year. Hopefully a different final though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 07, 2010, 11:07:14 PM
Would i be right in saying that St Pats 2nds play in the junior championship before they play the next round of the B's and therefore lose a few more players
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on July 07, 2010, 11:36:41 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 07, 2010, 11:07:14 PM
Would i be right in saying that St Pats 2nds play in the junior championship before they play the next round of the B's and therefore lose a few more players.

st pats junior c,ship fixture is 31st july,,prob b called of as a player is getting married that day..
we beat a poor clan eirann team 2nite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on July 07, 2010, 11:38:39 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on July 07, 2010, 11:36:41 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 07, 2010, 11:07:14 PM
Would i be right in saying that St Pats 2nds play in the junior championship before they play the next round of the B's and therefore lose a few more players.

st pats junior c,ship fixture is 31st july,,prob b called of as a player is getting married that day..
we beat a poor clan eirann team 2nite

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 08, 2010, 06:22:32 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 07, 2010, 11:07:14 PM
Would i be right in saying that St Pats 2nds play in the junior championship before they play the next round of the B's and therefore lose a few more players

I think the next round of the B championship is fixed for 28th July, so the Junior championship wouldn't affect your match.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 08, 2010, 09:18:03 AM
Aye fair enough, but how could a team call off a championship match because someone is getting married ??? i doubt that very much :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 08, 2010, 09:22:02 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 08, 2010, 09:18:03 AM
Aye fair enough, but how could a team call off a championship match because someone is getting married ??? i doubt that very much :-\

I can't see how it would be a valid excuse, unless the other team were will to accommodate them.

Are you still 'undefeated' Illdecide?  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 08, 2010, 09:50:36 AM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 08, 2010, 09:22:02 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 08, 2010, 09:18:03 AM
Aye fair enough, but how could a team call off a championship match because someone is getting married ??? i doubt that very much :-\

I can't see how it would be a valid excuse, unless the other team were will to accommodate them.

Are you still 'undefeated' Illdecide?  ;)

Correct sir still unbeaten ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 08, 2010, 09:50:49 AM
Quote from: pearseog on July 07, 2010, 10:51:04 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 07, 2010, 10:37:55 PM
Clans v St Pats
Ogs v St Pauls/Tullysaran

st.pauls tanked tullysaran from what i hear

7-10 to 1-1 was what i heard
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 08, 2010, 09:52:38 AM
division 2 result

st peters 0-08 wolfe tone 1-20

great result for us.peters missing a few but credit to our lads for a much improved performance from our worst performance of the year last week against clann eireann.  good to get a win after losing 3 on the bounce! st peters find it tough to stay up now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 08, 2010, 09:55:45 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 08, 2010, 09:50:49 AM
Quote from: pearseog on July 07, 2010, 10:51:04 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 07, 2010, 10:37:55 PM
Clans v St Pats
Ogs v St Pauls/Tullysaran

st.pauls tanked tullysaran from what i hear

7-10 to 1-1 was what i heard

Jasus thats some scoreline, i doubt they score 1/3 of that in their semi final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: under the bar on July 08, 2010, 04:12:17 PM
That's the sort of scoreline that perfectly sums up the standard of Armagh club football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on July 08, 2010, 05:46:42 PM
Quote from: under the bar on July 08, 2010, 04:12:17 PM
That's the sort of scoreline that perfectly sums up the standard of Armagh club football.

??? ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 08, 2010, 06:01:44 PM
Quote from: under the bar on July 08, 2010, 04:12:17 PM
That's the sort of scoreline that perfectly sums up the standard of Armagh club football.
What is your point? Anyone could have told you that before that game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 08, 2010, 09:47:48 PM
f**k me this board has been boring as f**k all week! Someone start a row please...!!!!! >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 08, 2010, 10:28:01 PM
Go f**k yourself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 08, 2010, 11:18:20 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on July 08, 2010, 10:28:01 PM
Go f**k yourself

:D :D :D Aye take your face for a shite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 09, 2010, 08:33:21 AM
09 Jul 2010  7 30 PM  Round 14  Newtownhamilton St Michael's  V  Madden Raperees   
09 Jul 2010  7 30 PM  Round 14  Clann Eireann (Lurgan)  V  Armagh Harps   
09 Jul 2010  7 30 PM  Round 14  Keady Michael Dwyers  V  Ballyhegan Davitts   
09 Jul 2010  7 30 PM  Round 14  Naomh Peadar An Lorgáin  V  Wolfe Tones Derrymacash/De Bhulbh Ton Doire Mhic   
09 Jul 2010  7 30 PM  Round 14  Na Clairsigh Béal Átha an Airgid  V  Granemore St Mary's   
09 Jul 2010  7 30 PM  Round 14  Ballymacnab Round Towers  V  Tir na nÓg 


If Keady beat Ballyhegan tonight... I think there's no way back for us or St Peters.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 09, 2010, 10:01:54 AM
Division II
Team P W D L Pts
Ballymacnab 13 11 1 1 23
Armagh Harps 13 8 1 4 17
Granemore 12 8 0 4 16
Clann Eireann 13 7 1 5 15
Silverbridge 12 6 2 4 14
Tir na nÓg 13 5 3 5 13
Wolfe Tone 12 6 0 6 12
St Michael's 12 5 1 6 11
Madden 13 5 0 8 10
Keady 11 4 1 6 9
Ballyhegan 13 2 2 9 6
St Peter's 13 2 0 10 4

be tough for ballyhegan alright goats.think its 2 much 4 st peters top stay up to be honest. harps clann eireann game isn't on tonight and we played st peters wed night. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 09, 2010, 10:31:41 AM
Very tight league - must be exiting. I hope Clann Eireann get promoted as they are too big a club for division 2 however I doubt they will. Before long they will shoot themselves in the foot as usual when it counts by getting beat by shite teams!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 09, 2010, 10:47:45 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 09, 2010, 10:31:41 AM
Very tight league - must be exiting. I hope Clann Eireann get promoted as they are too big a club for division 2 however I doubt they will. Before long they will shoot themselves in the foot as usual when it counts by getting beat by shite teams!

yes very tight league.  bar the peters game our biggest defeat 4 points and biggest win by 5 points.  real scrap 4 points.  doubt granemore will put up a challenge expect 2nd to between the harps and clann eireann with harps coming 2nd.  think clann eireann would really struggle in 1st division
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nrico2006 on July 09, 2010, 11:40:07 AM
I heard something about a Derrynoose hurler today losing his arm in a work accident.  Can anyone confirm this?  Tragic if true.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 09, 2010, 12:57:20 PM
I'd say any one of six teams could challenge for the second promotion place, reckon they'd all struggle though. would love to see another n.armagh team go up, any excuse to kick my mates.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on July 09, 2010, 01:59:22 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on July 09, 2010, 11:40:07 AM
I heard something about a Derrynoose hurler today losing his arm in a work accident.  Can anyone confirm this?  Tragic if true.

Sadly I believe it is true. Young fella and a nephew of minor hurling manager I hear.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 09, 2010, 02:54:31 PM
Nightmare - sympathies to all connected to him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 09, 2010, 09:47:22 PM
Ballyhegan defeated Keady in Keady tonight, in horrible conditions 0.03 - 2.05
Gives us a chance! Great 2nd half performance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on July 09, 2010, 10:14:00 PM
granemore bt a poor enough silverbridge 14 - 7 .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 09, 2010, 10:40:40 PM
Cross beat whitecross 2-9 to 2-8 tonight.
A very lucky win for us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 09, 2010, 10:51:29 PM
Culloville beat clans 2-14 to 1-15 at Culloville. Brutal weather and game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 09, 2010, 10:55:31 PM
St Pat's 0-8 Droimintee 0-6

Great win to stretch our unbeaten run to 5 matches and pull us clear of the relgation zone for the timebeing. Hard hitting game with the effort outweighing the quality I suppose. Thought we were just about value for the victory.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 10, 2010, 09:42:13 AM
just back ogs beat by 1 8-7 to mbawn. brutal game with ogs fielding only 7 of their main starting team and included 6/7 of the b team from weds. good luck to bawn who will be helped by this win but with hols and injuries almost over we should see a more recognisable ogs team on the pitch in the next month. watch out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on July 10, 2010, 10:16:03 AM
maghery lost by 1 point away at sarsfields. a very understrength maghery side dominated for most of thr game but couldnt turn it in2 scores. with teams all beating each other makes for a good exciting end of league finish.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 10, 2010, 02:18:25 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 09, 2010, 10:51:29 PM
Culloville beat clans 2-14 to 1-15 at Culloville. Brutal weather and game.

pretty decent considering the conditions??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 10, 2010, 03:29:38 PM
Conditions were very slippy but not a great game. Culloville played with 13 behind the ball and although they broke very quicly and effectively it didnt make for a great spectacle.

Game of two halves with Clans much better in the second. Two goals put on a plate for Culloville in the first 10 mins meant an uphill struggle and in the end proved unassailable.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Heaneys Wish on July 11, 2010, 06:30:40 PM
Quote from: Heaneys Wish on June 06, 2010, 11:20:01 AM
Be very interesting to see how today's Ref M Sludden gets on today? I personally feel this game is too big for him and he will kill it technically and his fitness has always been in question, S Woods must be on a knife edge today seeing that he backed his recent promo to grade 1 refereeing status allegedly at head quarters??????????? Lets see how his man gets on, with the cameras etc etc

Well, said it way back, Seamus Woods needs to take responsibility for that Idiot today, should hang his head in shame as should seamus!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on July 11, 2010, 06:38:26 PM
Quote from: Heaneys Wish on July 11, 2010, 06:30:40 PM
Quote from: Heaneys Wish on June 06, 2010, 11:20:01 AM
Be very interesting to see how today's Ref M Sludden gets on today? I personally feel this game is too big for him and he will kill it technically and his fitness has always been in question, S Woods must be on a knife edge today seeing that he backed his recent promo to grade 1 refereeing status allegedly at head quarters??????????? Lets see how his man gets on, with the cameras etc etc

Well, said it way back, Seamus Woods needs to take responsibility for that Idiot today, should hang his head in shame as should seamus!

Congratulations.  Are you going to post this on every county forum?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Heaneys Wish on July 11, 2010, 06:42:09 PM
For Sure!! called it spot on, he's a twat and woods pushed him through, gaa people have the right to know, and he should be suitably embarrasssed that's Seamus I mean, Sludden should never get another game at National!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 13, 2010, 03:26:48 PM
Does anyone know where i could view the b league tables? The cut-off date for the b league is the 28th July and yet no-one knows who's top or who's in contention for the play-offs, what a joke. The County Board must be keeping it a secret ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on July 13, 2010, 06:13:57 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 13, 2010, 03:26:48 PM
Does anyone know where i could view the b league tables? The cut-off date for the b league is the 28th July and yet no-one knows who's top or who's in contention for the play-offs, what a joke. The County Board must be keeping it a secret ::)

the b leagues this year are disgrace. the county board dont care about the b leagues and its a joke. something needs to be sorted soon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 14, 2010, 03:03:30 PM
best wishes to el cuervo on his big day on thursday. hopr u,ll still be allowed to the football. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 14, 2010, 03:55:26 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 14, 2010, 03:03:30 PM
best wishes to el cuervo on his big day on thursday. hopr u,ll still be allowed to the football. ;)

Is he getting hitched?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 14, 2010, 09:51:36 PM
Clans B team beat Wolfe Tones tonight (not sure of the score but won handy enough)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on July 14, 2010, 10:48:33 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on July 13, 2010, 06:13:57 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 13, 2010, 03:26:48 PM
Does anyone know where i could view the b league tables? The cut-off date for the b league is the 28th July and yet no-one knows who's top or who's in contention for the play-offs, what a joke. The County Board must be keeping it a secret ::)

the b leagues this year are disgrace. the county board dont care about the b leagues and its a joke. something needs to be sorted soon.
no ref turned up 2night for maghery v st pauls in b league both teams were on the field til after 8 . >:( its a complete joke this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on July 15, 2010, 09:01:03 AM
Quote from: illdecide on July 14, 2010, 03:55:26 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 14, 2010, 03:03:30 PM
best wishes to el cuervo on his big day on thursday. hopr u,ll still be allowed to the football. ;)

Is he getting hitched?

He sure is! Bit of panic last week when his nose got busted against the Harps lucky enough he survived with no black eyes
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on July 15, 2010, 02:03:07 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on July 14, 2010, 10:48:33 PM
Quote from: armagh leg-end on July 13, 2010, 06:13:57 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 13, 2010, 03:26:48 PM
Does anyone know where i could view the b league tables? The cut-off date for the b league is the 28th July and yet no-one knows who's top or who's in contention for the play-offs, what a joke. The County Board must be keeping it a secret ::)

the b leagues this year are disgrace. the county board dont care about the b leagues and its a joke. something needs to be sorted soon.
no ref turned up 2night for maghery v st pauls in b league both teams were on the field til after 8 . >:( its a complete joke this year.

b league is a total mess at the minute...we havent played a game in a good 4/5 weeks only played 4 all year and one was the championship...no idea where we sit in the league or those those arround us...and i think a fair bit of our team has lost interest in it to be honest.

on another note i see that the annuall dragging out of the u21 championship is in full swing again!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 15, 2010, 02:15:20 PM
They seem to be knocking out the b championship games rightly though. That's obviously the focus
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 15, 2010, 10:06:20 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 14, 2010, 09:51:36 PM
Clans B team beat Wolfe Tones tonight (not sure of the score but won handy enough)

handy win 4 clans fitter team.  jimmy mckee was awful gave a good impression of martin sludden/paidi hughes ie ill blow my whistle as frequently as i can to piss both teams off as I am in charge.  highlight was when clanns man gave the tones a sideline ball and jimmy overuled him then he said something like " your not going to cheat, im in charge here" actually burst out laughing!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 15, 2010, 10:35:37 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 15, 2010, 10:06:20 PM
Quote from: illdecide on July 14, 2010, 09:51:36 PM
Clans B team beat Wolfe Tones tonight (not sure of the score but won handy enough)

handy win 4 clans fitter team.  jimmy mckee was awful gave a good impression of martin sludden/paidi hughes ie ill blow my whistle as frequently as i can to piss both teams off as I am in charge.  highlight was when clanns man gave the tones a sideline ball and jimmy overuled him then he said something like " your not going to cheat, im in charge here" actually burst out laughing!

Yeah that bit was funny charles although it wasn't Jimmy KcKee it was Gerard Devlin. Don't know about the fitter team Charles as the Clans B team do not train ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on July 16, 2010, 01:50:48 PM
I see there's a few Cross lads named in the development squads. What was their thinking behind stopping them going in the last few years?

Arnas Dzinkevicius (Dorsey Emmetts) - It'll be interesting to see how he gets on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 16, 2010, 02:53:12 PM
That they were competent enough at coaching their own youth. Any league games tonight?? Clans v killeavy called off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on July 16, 2010, 04:45:00 PM
that arnus lad from dorsey emmets is meant 2 b a great footballer,,scored sumthing like 4-2 in an ulster final for cross high school.lol ;D
if he was that good tho he would be wearing st pats colours.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on July 16, 2010, 09:52:23 PM
Harps beat Keady by 4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on July 16, 2010, 10:27:09 PM
granemore bt st michaels 0-13 - 0-6 , also heard the nab hammered clann eireann
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 16, 2010, 10:52:47 PM
Harps 1-11
Keady 0-09

Nab 2-11
Clan Eireann 007
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on July 16, 2010, 11:00:24 PM
 ;D ;D maghery 1-12 whitecross 1-10  ;D ;D good fast game half time was 0-05 each w`cross were 1-10 0-09 up with 10 r so left but maghery turned it over with 1-4 without reply and deserved winners at the end.  ps suprisingly well reffereed by ollie hearty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 16, 2010, 11:42:04 PM
Ballyhegan beat St Peter's 2.14 - 1.06
Up by 1 point at half time. Devastating 2nd half.
Paul McGrane immense once again!
Nice to see the other results go in our favour too!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on July 16, 2010, 11:53:46 PM
Madden 1-11 Tir Na nÓg 0-05
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 17, 2010, 12:16:57 AM
St Patrick's 0-11 Mullaghbán 0-9

We were the better team for the vast majority of the match I felt and to pick up 2 points away from home while missing 10 squad members is no mean achievement.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 17, 2010, 03:01:39 AM
Cullaville beat Cross 3-7 to 0-14.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on July 17, 2010, 10:08:38 AM
Maghery beat Whitecross.  1.12.  1.09.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 17, 2010, 02:35:57 PM
Sarsfields beaten - not sure who by
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bigfrank on July 17, 2010, 07:09:28 PM
hymack maneuver needed in croker 2day  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on July 19, 2010, 02:15:38 PM
Sorry to hear about Pat Molloy R.I.P.
Pearse Og's stalwart and friend of many.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 19, 2010, 03:20:13 PM
Pat Molloy RIP will be solely missed, what a character.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on July 19, 2010, 09:08:22 PM
Quote from: Hedley Lamarr on July 19, 2010, 02:15:38 PM
Sorry to hear about Pat Molloy R.I.P.
Pearse Og's stalwart and friend of many.

I would like to add my condolences.

Pat was one of the great supporters of our games, both within the City, County and indeed far beyond. He would have travelled many miles to see a match and I think at one stage both he and his good mate Paul Clarke were umpires for Jimmy McKee when going down the country for big games. 

I recall way back in the early eighties, leaving Armagh City one cold, dark, miserable Saturday morning at about 8.00 am. Our destination was Tattyreagh, up in the Sperrins, where we were due to play a McRory Cup match against St Michael's Enniskillen. Noel McClurg stopped the mini-bus at the Dark Loanen for Pat to jump on board. He was the only spectator there on a God awful day! 

Pat's passing will leave a huge void not only in GAA circles, but in the wider community. A great fella.

May He Rest In Peace.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on July 19, 2010, 09:20:29 PM
I echo Rufus' sentiments, may Pat rest in peace!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sitdown on July 19, 2010, 10:47:34 PM
The Shambles has lost another LEGEND. May Pat rest in peace.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on July 20, 2010, 09:48:18 PM
Annaghmore beat Killen 2-13 to 2-5 in the junior championship.  Poor enough game by all accounts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 20, 2010, 10:38:44 PM
Well it was hardly gonne be a classic was it...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on July 21, 2010, 08:53:12 AM
Coverage as Killean are defeated by Annaghmore and Eire Og overcoem Dorsey Emmets in the Lucozade Sport Junior Football Championship

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--Annaghmore-defeat-Killean-in-Junior-Champio.aspx

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/Armagh-Junior-championship---Eire-Og-1-6-Dorsey-Em.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardchieftain on July 21, 2010, 02:36:03 PM
Pat Molloy rip

Only just heard about this. When i lived in Armagh he seemed to be at every match going.
Like someone already mentioned, a true legend
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on July 21, 2010, 04:46:23 PM
Hi folks, new to the board and go easy on me for a while until i get the hang of things
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 21, 2010, 06:22:41 PM
Well you didnt do yourself any favours there lad - w**ker  ;) ;) Its dog eat dog on here, those Cross c***ts will suck the diesel right outta ya!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on July 21, 2010, 09:42:03 PM
Ulster U21 Hurling Championship Semi Final Result:

Armagh 2-12
Derry 0-10

Final:

Armagh v Antrim
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 21, 2010, 11:18:37 PM
Clans beat St Pauls tonight by 3pts, not sure of the final score but think it was something along the lines of 1-14 to 1-11. I think that win guarantee's us into the knockout stages
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on July 22, 2010, 12:48:04 AM
Quote from: AFS on July 21, 2010, 09:42:03 PM
Ulster U21 Hurling Championship Semi Final Result:

Armagh 2-12
Derry 0-10

Final:

Armagh v Antrim

Ard Mhacha 2-12
Doire 0-09
Great win!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardchieftain on July 22, 2010, 02:36:47 PM
Great to see the progress that our hurlers are making at all levels.

I'd say Ballyhegan have a decent chance of championship revenge this sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 22, 2010, 03:17:07 PM
Quote from: ardchieftain on July 22, 2010, 02:36:47 PM
Great to see the progress that our hurlers are making at all levels.

I'd say Ballyhegan have a decent chance of championship revenge this sunday.

Scud!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on July 22, 2010, 03:24:38 PM
Match report & interviews from Paul Kelly and Nathan Curry as Armagh reach their first Under 21 Hurling final in over 30 years with an eight point victory over Derry

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO---Armagh-2-12-Derry-0-10.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardchieftain on July 22, 2010, 10:01:46 PM
Do not fret, shaven goat. i'm having a tenner on Ceide to guarantee a Davitt's victory !
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 24, 2010, 08:09:40 PM
Any games tonight??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 24, 2010, 09:44:24 PM
Madden beat Tones in the IFC...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 25, 2010, 04:12:04 PM
Division 1

Cross beat Ogs 1-14 to 0-9.

8 of Ogs scores came from frees, most of them courtesy of Gary Smith.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 25, 2010, 04:54:31 PM
St Patrick's 3-13 Clan na Gael 0-11

Superb second half performance from St Pat's as we ran out comfortable winner. It was very tight at half time, we lead 2-4 to 0-9 but Clans threw in the towel very early in the second half. Mal Mackin was the star of the show scoring 1-4 from play and laying on the other 2 goals. Steffan Campbell was excellent for Clans in the first half as well.

Brilliant result, our best performance of the year by quite some distance but it'll count for nothing at Abbey Park in 3 weeks time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on July 25, 2010, 06:37:36 PM
Decided to take in the IFC double header in Pearse Og Park today

Sarsfields 1-10 v Shane O Neills 0-11:

Not a great match from neutral view with both sets of forwards missing some easy chances, the easier misses coming from shanes and i feel that had 2 scores gone over at crucial stages in the game Shanes could have sneaked it in the second half but hard luck.

Keady 0-9 Ballyhegan 0-5:

This made tthe first match look good, no scores until 13mins into the game, pretty even in the first half finishing 0-4 to 0-3. Keady started the better team in the second half but the dismissal of 3 ballyhegan players
1 for 2nd yellow for pulling off ball,
2  was straight red for mouthing at a penalty decision (wrong decision on the pen imo),
3 for 2 yellows for mouthing.
All in all had the men stayed on the field Ballyhegan i still feel Keady would have seen them off.

Word to Pearse Ogs on their set up with a great looking surface for both games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardchieftain on July 26, 2010, 12:02:56 AM
The referee was poor today in the davitts v ceide game but the hungrier team won. Ballyhegan just didn't turn up. It was a terrible game to watch
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 26, 2010, 12:22:02 AM
ACL Division 1: St Patrick's 3-13 Clan na Gael 0-11

St Patrick's travelled to Lurgan on Sunday afternoon full of confidence after recent results but mindful that away fixtures in Lurgan have rarely been fruitful ventures for Cullyhanna over the decades. Due to Clan na Gael's redevelopment works they were forced to cede home advantage with the match being played at Pairc Clann Eireann. Cullyhanna raced out of the traps in the early stages like a thoroughbred greyhound as Gary McCooey caught the ball from the thrown in, burst through the Clan na Gael defence, played a constructive "one-two" before slipping the ball to Mal Mackin who slotted to the net on his return to the side. Despite suffering that early thunderbolt, Clans regrouped and slowly worked their way level with 3 points in a row before a well-taken Gary McCooey point after a short 45m kick put St Pat's back in the lead. The sides exchanged points before Mal Mackin robbed the Clans goalkeeper of possession and passed to Kieran O'Neill who found the net for a second St Pat's goal. A brilliant Eugene Casey point put St Pat's 5 ahead but the final 10 minutes of the half saw Clan na Gael dominate as they managed 5 unanswered points to draw level. St Pat's regained the lead just before half time as a typically purposeful run from midfield by Gary McCooey resulted in a point to leave Cullyhanna ahead at half-time on a scoreline of 2-4 to 0-9.

The second half was only seconds old when the Lurgan men levelled again however that was to prove the sole highlight of a wretched second half for Clans as Cullyhanna took control around the middle of the field and put together some excellent phases of football. A Eugene Casey pointed free initiated this period of domination while Kieran O'Neill put his side two ahead. With the game firmly in the balance, Mal Mackin stamped his authority on proceedings with four superb points. While no doubt Mal would be the first to acknowledge the quality of ball provided by his team-mates, particularly Shane McKeever and Barry McConville, the county man deserved immense credit for the manner in which the opportunities were dispatched over the bar. The match was over as a contest soon after when Mal Mackin expertly found Tony Donnelly who rattled the Clan na Gael net for the third time. The match petered out with Shane McKeever, Tony Donnelly and Robbie Tasker all adding point before the finish as St Pat's finished convincing winners by 3-13 to 0-11.

It would be no exaggeration to say that this was St Pat's best performance of the season by quite some distance. While a tally of 3-13 is evidence enough of some fine forward play, the foundations for the superb second half performance were laid by an improved defensive formation which stifled the threat posed by Clans in the first period. Niall McShane in particular was excellent in the sweeper role while Gary McCooey was a constant threat from midfield. However, as pleasing a result as this was, the players and management will be well aware that this game will count for absolutely nothing when St Pat's meet the same opponents in Abbey Park in 3 weeks time for the first round of the Senior Championship.

Division 4: St Patrick's 3-9 Corrinshego 0-8

The Division 4 team got back to winning ways on Sunday afternoon with a good victory over Corrinshego. In an entertaining and hard-hitting first half, the sides were fairly evenly matched but two goals, one from Brendan Murray and another from Brendan Nugent on the stroke of half-time gave Cullyhanna a 2-4 to 0-7 half-time lead. In the second period St Pat's dominated proceedings as they got to grips with a strong and physical Corrinshego challenge to run convincing victors with a Cahal McGlade penalty goal being the highlight of the second half. While this was another welcome win in itself, it also served as excellent preparation for St Patrick's II's debut in the Junior Championship against Belleek in Mullaghbán on Friday night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 26, 2010, 08:51:38 AM
Quote from: crossfire on July 25, 2010, 04:12:04 PM
Division 1

Cross beat Ogs 1-14 to 0-9.

8 of Ogs scores came from frees, most of them courtesy of Gary Smith.
and rightly so the frees where well justified, think cross got a few too.. Ogs missing a big core of their team but improved in the second half. If they had of taken their goal chance when 4 in it and two badly missed frees it could have been interesting. Cross played well in the first half with the breeze but it should be interesting later on in the year. Have to say i never heard as big a mouth or abuse coming from an inter-county manager as i heard yesterday. Cross will be hard to beat but and i think they should be very confident of reclaiming the fegan cup?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 26, 2010, 09:03:52 AM
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on July 25, 2010, 06:37:36 PM
Decided to take in the IFC double header in Pearse Og Park today

Sarsfields 1-10 v Shane O Neills 0-11:

Not a great match from neutral view with both sets of forwards missing some easy chances, the easier misses coming from shanes and i feel that had 2 scores gone over at crucial stages in the game Shanes could have sneaked it in the second half but hard luck.

Keady 0-9 Ballyhegan 0-5:

This made tthe first match look good, no scores until 13mins into the game, pretty even in the first half finishing 0-4 to 0-3. Keady started the better team in the second half but the dismissal of 3 ballyhegan players
1 for 2nd yellow for pulling off ball,
2  was straight red for mouthing at a penalty decision (wrong decision on the pen imo),
3 for 2 yellows for mouthing.
All in all had the men stayed on the field Ballyhegan i still feel Keady would have seen them off.

Word to Pearse Ogs on their set up with a great looking surface for both games.

Keady were definitely the better team, should have won by more only for some terrible wides particularly from early free kicks!

However, I don't think there was a real bad challenge in the game, & Ballyhegan received (I think!) 11 Yellow cards & 3 reds! Ref completely lost himself, forgetting that he'd given Paddy McKeever a second yellow, only to order him off after being told by the Keady players!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on July 26, 2010, 09:10:09 AM

Who was the ref?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on July 26, 2010, 09:37:28 AM
Stephen McKinley

- Don't think there was one yellow on the Keady side by the way (not that here should have been!)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on July 26, 2010, 10:21:37 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 26, 2010, 09:37:28 AM
Stephen McKinley

- Don't think there was one yellow on the Keady side by the way (not that here should have been!)

Enough said.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on July 26, 2010, 10:38:51 AM
When's the draw for the next round of the Intermediate championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on July 26, 2010, 11:15:55 AM
Sarsfields v Keady
St Pauls v Silverbridge
St Peters v Tir na Nog
Culloville v Madden
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on July 26, 2010, 11:37:45 AM
Quote from: Candyman on July 26, 2010, 10:21:37 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on July 26, 2010, 09:37:28 AM
Stephen McKinley

- Don't think there was one yellow on the Keady side by the way (not that here should have been!)

Enough said.....


More than enough
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on July 26, 2010, 12:21:05 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 26, 2010, 08:51:38 AM
Quote from: crossfire on July 25, 2010, 04:12:04 PM
Division 1

Cross beat Ogs 1-14 to 0-9.

8 of Ogs scores came from frees, most of them courtesy of Gary Smith.
and rightly so the frees where well justified, think cross got a few too.. Ogs missing a big core of their team but improved in the second half. If they had of taken their goal chance when 4 in it and two badly missed frees it could have been interesting. Cross played well in the first half with the breeze but it should be interesting later on in the year. Have to say i never heard as big a mouth or abuse coming from an inter-county manager as i heard yesterday. Cross will be hard to beat but and i think they should be very confident of reclaiming the fegan cup?

Who was the inter-county manager?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 26, 2010, 12:55:59 PM
Clans next two games will be interesting, as far as i know they play Mullaghbawn and Killeavy next and two wins for the clans should see them safe but anything less will leave them bang in the middle of a relegation dog fight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 26, 2010, 04:15:18 PM
Next two games is Maghery and Killeavy san! Four points required to put paid to this recent holiday slump!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on July 26, 2010, 05:14:06 PM
Can someone confirm this because a pearse og man assured me it was Gospel last night, that all Div 1 and top 4 Div2 this year will contest the senior championship next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on July 26, 2010, 09:25:36 PM
Quote from: Carbery on July 26, 2010, 12:21:05 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 26, 2010, 08:51:38 AM
Quote from: crossfire on July 25, 2010, 04:12:04 PM
Division 1

Cross beat Ogs 1-14 to 0-9.

8 of Ogs scores came from frees, most of them courtesy of Gary Smith.
and rightly so the frees where well justified, think cross got a few too.. Ogs missing a big core of their team but improved in the second half. If they had of taken their goal chance when 4 in it and two badly missed frees it could have been interesting. Cross played well in the first half with the breeze but it should be interesting later on in the year. Have to say i never heard as big a mouth or abuse coming from an inter-county manager as i heard yesterday. Cross will be hard to beat but and i think they should be very confident of reclaiming the fegan cup?

Who was the inter-county manager?

Going on past experience, it wouldn't be too hard to hazard a guess!!

Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on July 26, 2010, 05:14:06 PM
Can someone confirm this because a pearse og man assured me it was Gospel last night, that all Div 1 and top 4 Div2 this year will contest the senior championship next year.

First I have heard of it... if it's true, what would happen if the intermediate champions did not fall within that criteria. Also, I don't think it's fair for teams to be made aware of it half way through the season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: teletubby on July 26, 2010, 10:22:22 PM
dont think that  would work not this year any way maybe if its introduced earlier next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 26, 2010, 11:12:02 PM
Lads what club is Raymond Watters from and what sort of Ref is he?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 27, 2010, 08:52:27 AM
Ballymacnab, and hes a clown,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on July 27, 2010, 12:27:41 PM
Paul McShane speaks to Orchard TV before Armagh take on Cork in All-Ireland Quarter Final

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--Paul-McShanes-weighs-up-Armagh-s-chance-aga.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2010, 04:30:29 PM
Thats the way they run the championship in Down and it works well. To be honest I think its a good idea because some teams are in the senior championship and shouldnt be and others are playing division 1 football but enter the intermediate championship!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 27, 2010, 07:00:41 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2010, 04:30:29 PM
Thats the way they run the championship in Down and it works well. To be honest I think its a good idea because some teams are in the senior championship and shouldnt be and others are playing division 1 football but enter the intermediate championship!

+1 for example clann eireann and newtown or more intermediate sides than culloville and sarsfields
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on July 28, 2010, 09:44:17 AM
Videos as Sarsfield progress through to the Quarter Finals of the Lucozade Sport Intermediate Football Championship


http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--Sarsfields-overcome-Shane-O-Neill-s.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mrgaa1 on July 28, 2010, 11:18:22 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on July 27, 2010, 08:52:27 AM
Ballymacnab, and hes a clown,
He is a good decent referee who does it fairly
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mrgaa1 on July 28, 2010, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on July 26, 2010, 05:14:06 PM
Can someone confirm this because a pearse og man assured me it was Gospel last night, that all Div 1 and top 4 Div2 this year will contest the senior championship next year.
Has to be passed as a rule - but I agree.  However there is one issue with this.  I can see teams "throwing" games to ensure they are in a lower championship.  This would only work if they re-introduced some sort of relegation/promotion system that ensured all teams were competitive to the end.  Oh wait - they tried that and useless club delegates voted it out because it didn't happen in their day - average age 73.5 :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on July 28, 2010, 12:22:07 PM
Quote from: mrgaa1 on July 28, 2010, 11:18:22 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on July 27, 2010, 08:52:27 AM
Ballymacnab, and hes a clown,
He is a good decent referee who does it fairly

Good ref in my humble opinion
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on July 28, 2010, 02:09:31 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on July 28, 2010, 12:22:07 PM
Quote from: mrgaa1 on July 28, 2010, 11:18:22 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on July 27, 2010, 08:52:27 AM
Ballymacnab, and hes a clown,
He is a good decent referee who does it fairly

Good ref in my humble opinion

Not a bad ref, but he is still a clown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 28, 2010, 05:19:25 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on July 27, 2010, 07:00:41 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on July 27, 2010, 04:30:29 PM
Thats the way they run the championship in Down and it works well. To be honest I think its a good idea because some teams are in the senior championship and shouldnt be and others are playing division 1 football but enter the intermediate championship!

+1 for example clann eireann and newtown or more intermediate sides than culloville and sarsfields
IMO Charlie they'd all be IFC standard apart from Culloville. Hope this change comes into play in the next year or so. Would make the leagues more meaningful with a bit more to play for at the end of the season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on July 28, 2010, 06:31:21 PM
Quote from: mrgaa1 on July 28, 2010, 11:20:55 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on July 26, 2010, 05:14:06 PM
Can someone confirm this because a pearse og man assured me it was Gospel last night, that all Div 1 and top 4 Div2 this year will contest the senior championship next year.
Has to be passed as a rule - but I agree.  However there is one issue with this.  I can see teams "throwing" games to ensure they are in a lower championship.  This would only work if they re-introduced some sort of relegation/promotion system that ensured all teams were competitive to the end.  Oh wait - they tried that and useless club delegates voted it out because it didn't happen in their day - average age 73.5 :(
They voted it out because it was ridiculous!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 28, 2010, 10:25:08 PM
Clans B team beat Cullyhanna tonight by 10 in the B championship. Think Og's beat St pauls by 5 in the other semi
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 28, 2010, 10:56:45 PM
Good win for Clans. A lot more free flowing than when we met last year. Would I be right in saying Cullyhanna rested a few players for the JFC?

Comments re referee were spot on btw!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 28, 2010, 11:01:32 PM
Competitive game from the start in a repeat of last years semi final. The clans were bitterly disappointed with our own performance last year and felt this was a perfect opportunity to put that right.

Clans raced into a 6-1 lead which was then hauled back by st pats to leave only 2 points in it approaching half time. The clans then got a vital goal just before the break.

A quick goal at the start of the second half set the clans to run out comfortable enough in the end, despite st pats never giving up the fight.

The less said about the ref the better.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 28, 2010, 11:05:50 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on July 28, 2010, 11:01:32 PM
Competitive game from the start in a repeat of last years semi final. The clans were bitterly disappointed with our own performance last year and felt this was a perfect opportunity to put that right.

Clans raced into a 6-1 lead which was then hauled back by st pats to leave only 2 points in it approaching half time. The clans then got a vital goal just before the break.

A quick goal at the start of the second half set the clans to run out comfortable enough in the end, despite st pats never giving up the fight.

The less said about the ref the better.

Missing Marsden's clear push on our full back in the lead up to the crucial 3rd goal was disgraceful right enough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 28, 2010, 11:08:46 PM
You think the third goal was crucial??? I saw no push.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 28, 2010, 11:12:55 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 28, 2010, 10:56:45 PM
Good win for Clans. A lot more free flowing than when we met last year. Would I be right in saying Cullyhanna rested a few players for the JFC?

Comments re referee were spot on btw!

No there weren't any players rested - that's pretty much the team that's been playing all championship albeit that there would be one or two that could have been brought in from division 4 team that weren't. You could argue we should have played as strong a team as possible given that this will be our last chance to win this competition but its a difficult balancing act - obviously we want to put in a decent performance against Belleek on Friday night.

Anyway congratulations to Clan na Gael - worthy winners on the night. Goals win games and they took their chances well. best of luck particularly to the one or two lads from the board who I think may have been playing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 28, 2010, 11:16:54 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on July 28, 2010, 11:08:46 PM
You think the third goal was crucial??? I saw no push.


No doubt you didn't but then supporters tend to see what they want to see, particularly when it comes to refereeing decisions. And in Clan na Gael's case, they see it, then spend innordinate lengths of times whinging and crying about some perceived injustice.

As for it being crucial, it finished the game as a contest. At 8 points down with 25 minutes we at least had a slim chance, once the 3rd goal went in it was all over.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 28, 2010, 11:48:39 PM
TAC, is your Division 4 team a different squad of players to the B-team? Or would it be mostly the same? Either way you's have some pool of players!
What I mean is that surely a lot of Division 4 players could have come in if eligible but didn't because of your junior game.
Out of sheer interest, how would that Clans team fare in Division 4, in your opinion?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 29, 2010, 12:02:54 AM
TAC I hate going on about a ref and the last thing I will say about him is that I even saw some of your players laugh at some decisions or lack of decisions in some cases.

Fitz that's an interesting question but I don't think we have the pool of players to sustain it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 29, 2010, 12:14:31 AM
Oh I know, we more than likely don't. Doubt we'd be able to afford it either. A St Paul's player said to me last week he'd reckon we'd do alright in the 3rd but I feel that is an exaggeration.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PatDaly on July 29, 2010, 02:26:49 AM

Armagh's quest for a first ever Ulster U-21 hurling crown fell short at Casement Park. Their opponents Antrim successfully defended their title courtesy of a 0-21 to 0-16 triumph.

In their first final at this grade since 1979, Armagh set the early pace.

Michael Johnston's charges led by 0-5 to 0-2 after 11 minutes, with Kieran McKernan, Conor Coulter, Michael Lennon, Martin Maguire and captain Nathan Curry all splitting the posts.

Antrim bounced back by landing four of the next five points, full-forward Darren Hamill leading the charge.

Hamill, a senior panellist, tallied up ten points for the Saffrons - five in each half - with Antrim sneaking a 0-9 to 0-8 interval lead thanks to a score from the Shane O'Neill's clubman.

Cormac Donnelly pushed the hosts two points clear on the restart, but Armagh slotted over the next four points. Coulter and McKernan were particularly impressive in front of goal, as the underdogs moved 0-12 to 0-10 ahead in the 36th minute.

Crucially, Armagh were restricted to just four points in the closing stages, as Donnelly (0-5) and man-of-the-match Hamill (0-10) drove Antrim to more silverware.

The Antrim youngsters will now face Tipperary in the All-Ireland U-21 semi-finals on August 21, with Leinster champions Dublin and Galway meeting in the other last-four tie.

ARMAGH : P Kelly; R Comiskey, P Gaffney, JJ Hughes; S McNaughton, N Curry (0-1), D Carville; K McKernan (0-7, 6f), M Maguire (0-2); P Monaghan, M Lennon (0-2f), D Carville: C Corvan (0-1), C Coulter (0-3), M Moan. Sub: T Duffy for Monaghan.

ANTRIM : E Gillan; K Molloy, C Donnelly (0-5, 4f), L McAuley; C Carson, S Shannon, J Campbell; PJ O'Connell (0-2), E Laverty; M Devlin, T McCann (0-1), C Rocks; M Armstrong (0-3), D Hamill (0-10, 4f), C Quinn. Subs: M Lynch for Laverty, T McAlister for McAuley, G Laverty for Devlin, S Woulaghan for Rocks.

Referee : D Magee (Down).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on July 29, 2010, 10:43:57 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 29, 2010, 12:14:31 AM
Oh I know, we more than likely don't. Doubt we'd be able to afford it either. A St Paul's player said to me last week he'd reckon we'd do alright in the 3rd but I feel that is an exaggeration.


Ive been saying for years Clans should have a team in division 4. Its bullshit we dont have the pool  of players the only thing lacking is a few lads (Committee types) who could be bothered organising and maintaining it. We have 40 odd every year on the senior panel for the first few months untill certain lads quit because they dont get much playing time (Among other reasons) We also have a considerable "back catalogue" of players, a mixture of young and old.

I think the club need to start considering this because all due respect to the B system but its puke in respect to growing and developing young players
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on July 29, 2010, 11:02:20 AM
Videos, interviews and match report as Armagh came within a whisker of causing a huge upset in this years Ulster Under 21 final against Antrim in Casement Park.

http://armagh-gaa.com/Hurling/News/VIDEO--Heartbreak-from-U21-Hurlers-as-they-are-nar.aspx

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on July 29, 2010, 02:29:10 PM
Clans had a good win last night avenging their semi final loss to St Pats last year, the clans goals killed the game off (as someone else posted) and ran out comfortable enough in the end. The word on the street is the Og's are big favourites for the final and i suppose being the county champions why wouldn't they be...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 29, 2010, 03:02:04 PM
How many did they beat st pats by in the final last year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 29, 2010, 04:17:33 PM
ogs beat st pauls 1/12 to 0/8 but where guilty of very poor finishing. havin said that st pauls looked a reasonably young team but wouldn't have the same numbers as the ogs. good to see the mc cagues robbie and marty back playing very well as robbie was one of the best underage players with 4 minor championship medals. should be a good final with clans recruiting some of their former big guns who in my opinion would be still capable of playing senior championship football. ogs hope to have 3/4 players into the team who were injured or on holidays for the game last night. i believe the game will be held in maghery on sunday week, should be a close call.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on July 29, 2010, 04:20:25 PM
what way did the davitts/harps senior league game go last night. id say davitts struggled after the suspensions from sunday and the result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on July 29, 2010, 08:20:00 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on July 29, 2010, 04:20:25 PM
what way did the davitts/harps senior league game go last night. id say davitts struggled after the suspensions from sunday and the result.

think they  were all 2 yellows??may be wrong i lost interest worst intermediate cship game i have saw in sometime,tmosphere awful2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sitdown on July 29, 2010, 10:17:27 PM
It was a B league game. Harps won handy enough, but it was close in first half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 30, 2010, 12:25:38 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 28, 2010, 11:48:39 PM
TAC, is your Division 4 team a different squad of players to the B-team? Or would it be mostly the same? Either way you's have some pool of players!
What I mean is that surely a lot of Division 4 players could have come in if eligible but didn't because of your junior game.
Out of sheer interest, how would that Clans team fare in Division 4, in your opinion?

Our team last night was a mixture of 5 / 6 of the Division 4 team, a couple of minors, a few senior subs and one or two who'd only really have played Bs this year. All in all, it was a better team I would say than the side we put out week on week in Division 4. That Clans side tonight would push for promotion but there's a huge difference between getting a good team together for 4 or 5 championship matches and organsing a side for 22 league games. Marsden would run riot in Div 4, that's for certain.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on July 30, 2010, 01:30:17 AM
I agree TAC. I don't think we would have the players to put out week on week in division 4. I've no doubt that our b team could compete at that level and do well but when things like training, extra commitment etc are included I think we would fall short. I could be wrong though and perhaps it would be worth a go.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on July 30, 2010, 09:07:27 PM
granemore bt madden by a point , maddens county man did nothing but yap and question the referre,s decisions , ya had to see it to believe it    :-[ and not even a yellow card  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 30, 2010, 09:59:00 PM
JFC St Pat's II 0-4 Belleek 0-14

Perhaps not as one sided as the scoreline suggests, Belleek completely dominated for a 15 minute period from around the 6th or 7th minute and kicked 9 points in a row which were the difference throughout. The match was actually even enough for about 3/4s of the game but Belleek always had that wee bit extra.

Division 1 Culloville 0-11 St Pat's 0-9 - first defeat in 8 for us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on July 31, 2010, 12:24:30 AM
Harps Beat St.Peters by a couple.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on July 31, 2010, 04:46:02 PM
Rumour has it the harps lad took a sideline from over the line and the ref blew it up and when the peters players gathered around the for the hop the ref let the harps man take the kick again he played it into the full forward who wrecked the net. This was when the harps were three down with ten to go. As i say i wasn't at it but heard this. What's the harps version?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on July 31, 2010, 09:27:10 PM
I heard that there were 2 Armagh jerseys in the Gay Pride parade in Belfast today.

What club do ya reckon they were from?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on July 31, 2010, 11:25:07 PM
maghery beat clans by 7 2night in lurgan clans started brightly leading 7-2 then maghery came back to go in level at half time 8 each clans only scored a point from a free at the end of 2nd half and maghery ran out deserved winners 0-16 0-09 dont know who the ref was but he nearly let this game get out of hand had no control what so ever
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 01, 2010, 12:10:28 AM
Quote from: Orior on July 31, 2010, 09:27:10 PM
I heard that there were 2 Armagh jerseys in the Gay Pride parade in Belfast today.

What club do ya reckon they were from?

Clan na GAYel?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 01, 2010, 12:23:02 AM
Calm yourself TAC
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on August 01, 2010, 07:54:11 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on July 31, 2010, 04:46:02 PM
Rumour has it the harps lad took a sideline from over the line and the ref blew it up and when the peters players gathered around the for the hop the ref let the harps man take the kick again he played it into the full forward who wrecked the net. This was when the harps were three down with ten to go. As i say i wasn't at it but heard this. What's the harps version?



it was actually a Harps Free kick and not a sideline kick, i think this was the confusion and then the Ref realised his mistake and let him re-take it. Harps were never 3 down in the game, i actually dont think the Harps were behind at all in the whole game, and this incident happened in the first half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Worker on August 01, 2010, 11:15:54 AM
Quote from: Orior on July 31, 2010, 09:27:10 PM
I heard that there were 2 Armagh jerseys in the Gay Pride parade in Belfast today.

What club do ya reckon they were from?

what club you from?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on August 01, 2010, 01:17:31 PM
Quote from: The Worker on August 01, 2010, 11:15:54 AM
Quote from: Orior on July 31, 2010, 09:27:10 PM
I heard that there were 2 Armagh jerseys in the Gay Pride parade in Belfast today.

What club do ya reckon they were from?

what club you from?

Redmond O'Hanlons
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 01, 2010, 04:30:39 PM
B championship final: Clan na Gael v P OG's in Maghery at 4:00 Sunday 8th August. The U16 final is before the B final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: camloughlad on August 01, 2010, 08:38:31 PM
Corrinshego beat Eire og last nite in the championship 3.5 to 7 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 01, 2010, 08:56:52 PM
Keady through to the U16 championship final after beating St Pat's 4-18 to 2-11 in an entertaining match in Whitecross this evening.

That's the third championship we've exited this week unfortunately.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 02, 2010, 01:25:20 AM
Just goes to show fcuksake how two different versions of the same incident can vary so much. As I say I wasn't at it so was only going on what a peters lad was telling me
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 02, 2010, 07:59:13 AM
Quote from: camloughlad on August 01, 2010, 08:38:31 PM
Corrinshego beat Eire og last nite in the championship 3.5 to 7 points

A club that seems to have come on very well in the last few years. Lots of underage representation on county squads too!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 02, 2010, 08:55:47 AM
Ogs beat killeavey 1/14 to 1/7 without bein in too much bother. A good display in patches with Barton dominating Stevie which was good. Not surprised by sarsfield result they never turn up in cross and wer very lucky to beat shanes the previous week. clans seem to be a bit in freefall and would need to be carefull or they will find themselves in a battle with sars to stay up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T O Hare on August 02, 2010, 01:23:53 PM
Quote from: Orior on August 01, 2010, 01:17:31 PM
Quote from: The Worker on August 01, 2010, 11:15:54 AM
Quote from: Orior on July 31, 2010, 09:27:10 PM
I heard that there were 2 Armagh jerseys in the Gay Pride parade in Belfast today.

What club do ya reckon they were from?

what club you from?

Where is your game tonight and at what time???

Redmond O'Hanlons
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 02, 2010, 04:39:19 PM
Armagh SFC match prices:

8/11 maghery 7/1 draw clann eireann 11/8
7/2 mullaghbawn 8/1 draw pearse og's 1/4
6/5 ballymacnab 7/1 draw killeavy 5/6
4/5 st pat's 7/1 draw clan na gael 5/4
7/1 carrickcruppen 11/1 draw crossmaglen 1/14
2/1 whitecross 7/1 draw dromintee 1/2
2/7 granemore 8/1 st michaels 3/1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 02, 2010, 05:11:54 PM
nab, dromintee,maghery for a nice treble with possibly clans/ st. pats for a draw to boost the odds
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 02, 2010, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 02, 2010, 04:39:19 PM
Armagh SFC match prices:

8/11 maghery 7/1 draw clann eireann 11/8draw
7/2 mullaghbawn 8/1 draw pearse og's 1/4ogs
6/5 ballymacnab 7/1 draw killeavy 5/6nab
4/5 st pat's 7/1 draw clan na gael 5/4clans
7/1 carrickcruppen 11/1 draw crossmaglen 1/14X
2/1 whitecross 7/1 draw dromintee 1/2 whitex
2/7 granemore 8/1 st michaels 3/1granemore


A few hard ones to call, definetly an upset there somewhere. my bet would be nab, clans and mullabawn +points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Magners on August 02, 2010, 10:16:49 PM
The Billy Agnew Memorial Cup Pearse Ogs v Armagh Harps over 35's this Friday 6th August @ 7:30pm Sherry's Field all welcome ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: camloughlad on August 02, 2010, 10:25:27 PM
Draw for junior Quarter Finals

Tullysaran v Annaghmore
Clonmore v Beleek
Grange v Mullabrack
Corrinshigo v Clady
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on August 02, 2010, 11:00:02 PM
Armagh SFC match prices:

8/11 maghery 7/1 draw clann eireann 11/8  MAGHERY
7/2 mullaghbawn 8/1 draw pearse og's 1/4  PEARSE OG
6/5 ballymacnab 7/1 draw killeavy 5/6  BALLYMACNAB
4/5 st pat's 7/1 draw clan na gael 5/4  CLAN NA GAEL
7/1 carrickcruppen 11/1 draw crossmaglen 1/14  CROSSMAGLEN
2/1 whitecross 7/1 draw dromintee 1/2  DROMINTEE
2/7 granemore 8/1 st michaels 3/1  GRANEMORE
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 03, 2010, 12:39:49 PM
Division I
Team P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 15 14 0 1 28
Maghery 16 8 4 4 20
Pearse Og 16 8 2 6 18
Carrickcruppen 14 8 1 5 17
Culloville 15 8 0 7 16
St Patrick's 16 7 2 7 16
Dromintee 15 7 1 7 15
Clan na Gael 15 6 0 9 12
Whitecross 15 6 0 9 12
Sarsfields 16 5 1 10 11
Mullaghbawn 16 6 0 10 12
Killeavy 15 3 1 11 7

Holy sweet feck look at the bottom of that table...Mullaghbawn, Sarsfields, Whitecross and clans all within a point of each other...it'll be an interesting last few weeks for them four teams
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 03, 2010, 02:48:59 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 03, 2010, 12:39:49 PM
Division I
Team P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 15 14 0 1 28
Maghery 16 8 4 4 20
Pearse Og 16 8 2 6 18
Carrickcruppen 14 8 1 5 17
Culloville 15 8 0 7 16
St Patrick’s 16 7 2 7 16
Dromintee 15 7 1 7 15
Clan na Gael 15 6 0 9 12
Whitecross 15 6 0 9 12
Sarsfields 16 5 1 10 11
Mullaghbawn 16 6 0 10 12
Killeavy 15 3 1 11 7

Holy sweet feck look at the bottom of that table...Mullaghbawn, Sarsfields, Whitecross and clans all within a point of each other...it'll be an interesting last few weeks for them four teams
whats the clans run in like, i know u hav to go to the ogs, think whitecross are faltering big time called the game off with the ogs this weekend have to play twice. dont think they have won a game from their last 8. good start for them peaking early after the ulster league.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 03, 2010, 03:06:38 PM
Clans are at home to Killeavy this Thurs nite then two more home matches v Culloville and Mullaghbawn then we are away to Ogs, Dromintee, Sarsfields and St Pats.

Not sure in what order we play them games...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on August 03, 2010, 03:14:27 PM
Action from the Junior Championship as there are good wins for Grange and Clady over fancied opposition

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO---Clady-1-13--Derrynoose-2-7.aspx

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO---Grange-1-14--Crossmaglen-II-1-09.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T O Hare on August 03, 2010, 03:20:30 PM
Diid Mullabrack beat the pass last night ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on August 03, 2010, 03:25:34 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on August 03, 2010, 08:21:01 PM
Arse
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 04, 2010, 09:13:13 AM
i heard chris mc cann was outstanding for brack scoring 10/11 points from chf. he was a former harps player but never got a chance to stake a place good player. different game for brack next day out ,but still a good boost for a club struggling to survive.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 04, 2010, 10:40:10 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2010, 09:13:13 AM
i heard chris mc cann was outstanding for brack scoring 10/11 points from chf. he was a former harps player but never got a chance to stake a place good player.
Do you never tire of peddling lazy misinformed shite?  Chris played plenty of ball for Harps over the years and was an excellent player in his day, he was also afforded every opportunity with Harps. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 05, 2010, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 04, 2010, 10:40:10 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2010, 09:13:13 AM
i heard chris mc cann was outstanding for brack scoring 10/11 points from chf. he was a former harps player but never got a chance to stake a place good player.
Do you never tire of peddling lazy misinformed shite?  Chris played plenty of ball for Harps over the years and was an excellent player in his day, he was also afforded every opportunity with Harps. 
ur a touchy prat why is he not ther now. seemed to spend most of the time warming his back side when ther. if u dont beleive me ask him yourself and he will tell you the same. most of his games wer with the b team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on August 05, 2010, 09:21:22 AM
he must be 33/34 now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 05, 2010, 11:55:53 AM
think u might be right but he played very well the other night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 05, 2010, 11:56:14 AM
Quote from: fcuksake on August 05, 2010, 09:21:22 AM
he must be 33/34 now

The mans only a cub FFS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 05, 2010, 02:38:55 PM
I hear Maghery beat Mullaghbawn last night by a point with the last kick of the ball.

Clans home to killeavy tonight (not really home, it's in Sarsfields), sure as hell miss the big Davitt Park now lads...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 05, 2010, 09:11:54 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 05, 2010, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 04, 2010, 10:40:10 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2010, 09:13:13 AM
i heard chris mc cann was outstanding for brack scoring 10/11 points from chf. he was a former harps player but never got a chance to stake a place good player.
Do you never tire of peddling lazy misinformed shite?  Chris played plenty of ball for Harps over the years and was an excellent player in his day, he was also afforded every opportunity with Harps. 
ur a touchy prat why is he not ther now. seemed to spend most of the time warming his back side when ther. if u dont beleive me ask him yourself and he will tell you the same. most of his games wer with the b team.

You are a shit stirring asshole with an agenda, and as I've said before you are also a coward who hides behind his anonymity.  I'll never take anything you say seriously until you de-cloak.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 05, 2010, 09:49:26 PM
Clans 2-7
Killeavy 0-17

I think. Clans up shit creek.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 06, 2010, 12:01:54 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 05, 2010, 09:49:26 PM
Clans 2-7
Killeavy 0-17

I think. Clans up shit creek.

Without a paddle...f**king never seen worse in my life, gutless performance and there are a few lads who really need to ask themselves the question. It's a good job i didn't post a few hours ago or i would have said a few things i would have regretted.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 06, 2010, 12:46:50 AM
Shockin bad from the blues. Not looking good.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 06, 2010, 02:23:16 AM
Not looking good alright but we have been in these waters before. Fingers crossed we can perform miracles and escape. It is now a dog fight between four teams, ourselves, Sarsfields, Killeavy and the Bawn. To the wire this one goes as we still have sarsfields and Mullaghbawn to play. If we win these we should be safe
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 06, 2010, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 05, 2010, 09:11:54 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 05, 2010, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 04, 2010, 10:40:10 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2010, 09:13:13 AM
i heard chris mc cann was outstanding for brack scoring 10/11 points from chf. he was a former harps player but never got a chance to stake a place good player.
Do you never tire of peddling lazy misinformed shite?  Chris played plenty of ball for Harps over the years and was an excellent player in his day, he was also afforded every opportunity with Harps. 
ur a touchy prat why is he not ther now. seemed to spend most of the time warming his back side when ther. if u dont beleive me ask him yourself and he will tell you the same. most of his games wer with the b team.

You are a shit stirring asshole with an agenda, and as I've said before you are also a coward who hides behind his anonymity.  I'll never take anything you say seriously until you de-cloak.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 06, 2010, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 06, 2010, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 05, 2010, 09:11:54 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 05, 2010, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 04, 2010, 10:40:10 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2010, 09:13:13 AM
i heard chris mc cann was outstanding for brack scoring 10/11 points from chf. he was a former harps player but never got a chance to stake a place good player.
Do you never tire of peddling lazy misinformed shite?  Chris played plenty of ball for Harps over the years and was an excellent player in his day, he was also afforded every opportunity with Harps. 
ur a touchy prat why is he not ther now. seemed to spend most of the time warming his back side when ther. if u dont beleive me ask him yourself and he will tell you the same. most of his games wer with the b team.

You are a shit stirring asshole with an agenda, and as I've said before you are also a coward who hides behind his anonymity.  I'll never take anything you say seriously until you de-cloak.


its a discussion board and im only stating an obvious fact about chris the other nite and his former career. if u dont like it then p--s off back to the orchard board. as for cowards lol lol mirror mirror on the wall.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hound of ulster on August 06, 2010, 12:00:35 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 06, 2010, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 06, 2010, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 05, 2010, 09:11:54 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 05, 2010, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 04, 2010, 10:40:10 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2010, 09:13:13 AM
i heard chris mc cann was outstanding for brack scoring 10/11 points from chf. he was a former harps player but never got a chance to stake a place good player.
Do you never tire of peddling lazy misinformed shite?  Chris played plenty of ball for Harps over the years and was an excellent player in his day, he was also afforded every opportunity with Harps. 
ur a touchy prat why is he not ther now. seemed to spend most of the time warming his back side when ther. if u dont beleive me ask him yourself and he will tell you the same. most of his games wer with the b team.

You are a shit stirring asshole with an agenda, and as I've said before you are also a coward who hides behind his anonymity.  I'll never take anything you say seriously until you de-cloak.


its a discussion board and im only stating an obvious fact about chris the other nite and his former career. if u dont like it then p--s off back to the orchard board. as for cowards lol lol mirror mirror on the wall.
wanderer always looking to have a wee dig at the harps on here,think you should have a closer look at whats going on in your own club,or is it just you really are a closet harps fan!!take a redner as i believe this is your colour
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 06, 2010, 05:05:55 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on August 06, 2010, 12:00:35 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 06, 2010, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 06, 2010, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 05, 2010, 09:11:54 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 05, 2010, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 04, 2010, 10:40:10 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2010, 09:13:13 AM
i heard chris mc cann was outstanding for brack scoring 10/11 points from chf. he was a former harps player but never got a chance to stake a place good player.
Do you never tire of peddling lazy misinformed shite?  Chris played plenty of ball for Harps over the years and was an excellent player in his day, he was also afforded every opportunity with Harps. 
ur a touchy prat why is he not ther now. seemed to spend most of the time warming his back side when ther. if u dont beleive me ask him yourself and he will tell you the same. most of his games wer with the b team.

You are a shit stirring asshole with an agenda, and as I've said before you are also a coward who hides behind his anonymity.  I'll never take anything you say seriously until you de-cloak.


its a discussion board and im only stating an obvious fact about chris the other nite and his former career. if u dont like it then p--s off back to the orchard board. as for cowards lol lol mirror mirror on the wall.
wanderer always looking to have a wee dig at the harps on here,think you should have a closer look at whats going on in your own club,or is it just you really are a closet harps fan!!take a redner as i believe this is your colour
sounds like an appropiate name for you " howling like a dog" when somethings mentioned about former harps players. as for my own club i know whats goin on unlike you and also the other club in the town. good luck scooby.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: handocommando on August 06, 2010, 05:08:20 PM
For the record I scored 12 points the other nite and I'm 32.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 06, 2010, 05:22:42 PM
Quote from: handocommando on August 06, 2010, 05:08:20 PM
For the record I scored 12 points the other nite and I'm 32.

Blue Peter badge is on it's way
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 06, 2010, 06:31:52 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 06, 2010, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 06, 2010, 09:21:53 AM
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Quote from: bennydorano on August 05, 2010, 09:11:54 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 05, 2010, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 04, 2010, 10:40:10 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2010, 09:13:13 AM
i heard chris mc cann was outstanding for brack scoring 10/11 points from chf. he was a former harps player but never got a chance to stake a place good player.
Do you never tire of peddling lazy misinformed shite?  Chris played plenty of ball for Harps over the years and was an excellent player in his day, he was also afforded every opportunity with Harps. 
ur a touchy prat why is he not ther now. seemed to spend most of the time warming his back side when ther. if u dont beleive me ask him yourself and he will tell you the same. most of his games wer with the b team.

You are a shit stirring asshole with an agenda, and as I've said before you are also a coward who hides behind his anonymity.  I'll never take anything you say seriously until you de-cloak.

i
its a discussion board and im only stating an obvious fact about chris the other nite and his former career. if u dont like it then p--s off back to the orchard board. as for cowards lol lol mirror mirror on the wall.
Holy f**k, if u cant tell the difference between fact & opinion ::) Just tell us who u are & we can move forward, not so difficult?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on August 06, 2010, 08:14:33 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on August 06, 2010, 12:00:35 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 06, 2010, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 06, 2010, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 05, 2010, 09:11:54 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 05, 2010, 09:12:05 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 04, 2010, 10:40:10 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 04, 2010, 09:13:13 AM
i heard chris mc cann was outstanding for brack scoring 10/11 points from chf. he was a former harps player but never got a chance to stake a place good player.
Do you never tire of peddling lazy misinformed shite?  Chris played plenty of ball for Harps over the years and was an excellent player in his day, he was also afforded every opportunity with Harps. 
ur a touchy prat why is he not ther now. seemed to spend most of the time warming his back side when ther. if u dont beleive me ask him yourself and he will tell you the same. most of his games wer with the b team.

You are a shit stirring asshole with an agenda, and as I've said before you are also a coward who hides behind his anonymity.  I'll never take anything you say seriously until you de-cloak.


its a discussion board and im only stating an obvious fact about chris the other nite and his former career. if u dont like it then p--s off back to the orchard board. as for cowards lol lol mirror mirror on the wall.
wanderer always looking to have a wee dig at the harps on here,think you should have a closer look at whats going on in your own club,or is it just you really are a closet harps fan!!take a redner as i believe this is your colour

Tell us what's happening in the Ogs!!I'm dyin to know!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 06, 2010, 09:37:21 PM
Quote from: handocommando on August 06, 2010, 05:08:20 PM
For the record I scored 12 points the other nite and I'm 32.

You never did pass the ball McCann!!! (if it is you) ;)

Can you put the lads straight here, you did headbutt Benny and tell him to go fcuk himself because of your lack of 1st team opportunities for the last 15 years or so.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 06, 2010, 09:47:47 PM
Ballyhegan 2.04 - Granemore 1.05

Davitts battled from 4 points down at half time to win by 2 with a late goal from Shane McCormack.

Ciaran Toner played at full forward for most of the game, but didn't have much joy from Paul Courtney - great tussle!

Vital win!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on August 07, 2010, 12:31:56 PM
Great result... Up the Davitts!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BrianBoru on August 07, 2010, 04:40:20 PM
Hard fought win for Ballymacnab last night. 9-6 against newtown.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 07, 2010, 09:58:46 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on August 06, 2010, 09:47:47 PM
Ballyhegan 2.04 - Granemore 1.05

Davitts battled from 4 points down at half time to win by 2 with a late goal from Shane McCormack.

Ciaran Toner played at full forward for most of the game, but didn't have much joy from Paul Courtney - great tussle!

Vital win!
felt granemore threw this game away as they had enough chances to do so even missing a penalty , toners not a ff and was clearly carrying an injury into this game , ballyhegan also had a player sent off on 2 yellows though should,ve walked for eiither offence [ striking and kicking from behind ] mc grane should,ve walked also for punching twice to the back of his young oppenents head  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on August 07, 2010, 11:07:10 PM
Howd keady v Sarsfields go tonite?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on August 08, 2010, 11:00:16 AM
Heard Sarsfields won by a goal 2-12 to 1-12 I think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 08, 2010, 12:21:06 PM
Quote from: torres on August 07, 2010, 09:58:46 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on August 06, 2010, 09:47:47 PM
Ballyhegan 2.04 - Granemore 1.05

Davitts battled from 4 points down at half time to win by 2 with a late goal from Shane McCormack.

Ciaran Toner played at full forward for most of the game, but didn't have much joy from Paul Courtney - great tussle!

Vital win!
felt granemore threw this game away as they had enough chances to do so even missing a penalty , toners not a ff and was clearly carrying an injury into this game , ballyhegan also had a player sent off on 2 yellows though should,ve walked for eiither offence [ striking and kicking from behind ] mc grane should,ve walked also for punching twice to the back of his young oppenents head  >:(
Granemore should've been out of sight in the 1st half, but Ballyhegan wanted it more in the 2nd & were the more treatening team once they used the direct ball. McGrane was understanably frustrated... every time he went to take a quick free kick there was a player standing on his toes... #15 the repeat offender! ps. if they were punches i don't think the player would have continued!
your #11 was very dangerous, a real flyer!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 08, 2010, 03:58:36 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on August 08, 2010, 12:21:06 PM
Quote from: torres on August 07, 2010, 09:58:46 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on August 06, 2010, 09:47:47 PM
Ballyhegan 2.04 - Granemore 1.05

Davitts battled from 4 points down at half time to win by 2 with a late goal from Shane McCormack.

Ciaran Toner played at full forward for most of the game, but didn't have much joy from Paul Courtney - great tussle!

Vital win!
felt granemore threw this game away as they had enough chances to do so even missing a penalty , toners not a ff and was clearly carrying an injury into this game , ballyhegan also had a player sent off on 2 yellows though should,ve walked for eiither offence [ striking and kicking from behind ] mc grane should,ve walked also for punching twice to the back of his young oppenents head  >:(
Granemore should've been out of sight in the 1st half, but Ballyhegan wanted it more in the 2nd & were the more treatening team once they used the direct ball. McGrane was understanably frustrated... every time he went to take a quick free kick there was a player standing on his toes... #15 the repeat offender! ps. if they were punches i don't think the player would have continued!
your #11 was very dangerous, a real flyer!
agree bhegan wanted it more.granemore went in at half time to changing room barely came back out!  when bhagan got physical seemed to benefit them.  bad result for us
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 08, 2010, 03:59:30 PM
tones and granemore drew today at clnn eireann.  granemore got a free with last kick.  dubious free would be an understatement >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 08, 2010, 08:29:38 PM
Congrats to the clans on winning the b championship. Good to see a county championship go back to davitt park.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 08, 2010, 08:56:17 PM
Well done clans. Must be while since the B champ went to the north? Always seemed to be mid or south teams winnin it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: teletubby on August 08, 2010, 09:10:22 PM
Does anyone know the result of the madden v cullaville game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 08, 2010, 09:22:45 PM
3-11 to 1-11 in favour of cull
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 08, 2010, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 08, 2010, 08:56:17 PM
Well done clans. Must be while since the B champ went to the north? Always seemed to be mid or south teams winnin it?

1990 since the clans won it. Long time. Would be sure about the rest. Did maghery win it 2 years ago?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 08, 2010, 09:49:24 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 08, 2010, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 08, 2010, 08:56:17 PM
Well done clans. Must be while since the B champ went to the north? Always seemed to be mid or south teams winnin it?

1990 since the clans won it. Long time. Would be sure about the rest. Did maghery win it 2 years ago?

3 years ago I think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 08, 2010, 09:50:16 PM
ACL Division 1 St Patrick's 2-8 Killeavy 0-14

St Pat's and Killeavy met at High Noon on Sunday in entirely different circumstances to their last clash. Then it was Cullyhanna who were rooted to the bottom of the league but an excellent run of form since has eased relegation worries and on Sunday afternoon Killeavy were particularly desperate for 2 points to keep in touch with the sides immediately above them. Spectators travelled from far and wide for this fixture but John Feighan's trip from California, USA was a journey unlikely to be paralleled. The away side managed the opening point however Cullyhanna replied in emphatic fashion with a Mal Mackin goal and points from Eugene Casey and Micky Murray. Establishing a four point lead was only to signal a period of Killeavy dominance as they kicked 5 points without reply to take the lead. An excellent Robbie Tasker chipped score after a good pass from Eoin McArdle levelled matters however 2 late Killeavy points gave the visitors the half-time lead on a scoreline of 0-8 to 1-3.

The concession of two needless frees allowed Killeavy to further extend their advantage early in the second half before a somewhat ponderous Cullyhanna attack ended with Ciaran McKeever in possession who obliged with an excellent point. McKeever continued to be closely involved in matters as his searching ball forward was seized on by Robbie Tasker who dispatched a magnificent shot to the net to draw the sides level. Another excellent Robbie Tasker point put Cullyhanna in the lead before Killeavy kicked two scores to regain the lead. The visitors would have been further in front were it not for a superb point blank save from Deaglan McArdle. St Pat's rallied with an attack which resulted with Eugene Casey retaining possession in the corner of the pitch and working the ball to Ciaran McKeever who kicked a very good point to equalise. Two well taken points from Eugene Casey put the home side 2 in front but Killeavy were not to be denied and two excellent late points pulled them level. With only a minute remaining, Mal Mackin made a magnificent catch in the middle of the field and was felled in full flight however when the difficult resulting free drifted wide, the match was destined to end in a draw. The game finished level on a scoreline of St Patrick's 2-8 Killeavy 0-14.

While the point gained was useful, this was far from a vintage St Pat's performance and improvement will be needed if progress is to be made in the championship next Sunday afternoon in Abbey Park.

St Patrick's II 2-10 Killeavy 1-11

Having been well beaten by the same opposition earlier in the season, expectations were low heading into this fixture, however the Seconds side confounded any critics with their best display of the season to secure a magnificent victory. The Cullyhanna men powered out of the blocks with a superb opening quarter as Paudie Mackin's domination at midfield laid the foundation for an excellent spell in which St Pat's scored 2-4 without reply, including goals from Cathal McGlade and Brendan Nugent. As expected, Killeavy fought back before the break but Cullyhanna still led 2-4 to 1-4 at half-time. The second half was a nip and tuck affair however Cullyhanna just about did enough to keep their lead, aided an excellent cameo from second half substitute Brendan Murray who scored 2 points to secure an excellent win. Final Score: St Patrick's II 2-10 Killeavy II 1-11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on August 08, 2010, 11:59:10 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 08, 2010, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 08, 2010, 08:56:17 PM
Well done clans. Must be while since the B champ went to the north? Always seemed to be mid or south teams winnin it?

1990 since the clans won it. Long time. Would be sure about the rest. Did maghery win it 2 years ago?

Well done Clans... played well but I thought the Ogs done their bit for a good final!! Paudie Hughes ruined it though but I know that wouldn't surprise most people.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 09, 2010, 12:10:05 AM
I thought his foot block penalty decision was awful but apart from that I thought he did ok. I don't think that decision changed the match.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on August 09, 2010, 12:17:23 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 09, 2010, 12:10:05 AM
I thought his foot block penalty decision was awful but apart from that I thought he did ok. I don't think that decision changed the match.

Na your right, the Clans were playing well up until that but he did make a bad call for the first penalty and for a free just before that as well... but sure these things happen!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on August 09, 2010, 12:22:22 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 08, 2010, 09:49:24 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 08, 2010, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 08, 2010, 08:56:17 PM
Well done clans. Must be while since the B champ went to the north? Always seemed to be mid or south teams winnin it?

1990 since the clans won it. Long time. Would be sure about the rest. Did maghery win it 2 years ago?

3 years ago I think.

I've a feeling Tir na nOg won an All County 'B' Title in the mid 1990s? I recall it because Marty Breen - ex St Pats College man - was playing!! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 09, 2010, 12:23:24 AM
Must admit I didn't have a great view of the first penalty. It looked a push from where I was but I couldn't tell if that was inside or not
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 09, 2010, 09:25:30 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 09, 2010, 12:23:24 AM
Must admit I didn't have a great view of the first penalty. It looked a push from where I was but I couldn't tell if that was inside or not
Definitely inside. The other foot-block penalty was harsh. That said I think we were the better team throughout and would have won anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on August 09, 2010, 10:23:15 AM
Will the Clans be putting forward their manager for the armagh senior job. They only won that b championship because of him. Correct saan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on August 09, 2010, 11:03:56 AM
Videos as Cullaville hit three goals to defeat Madden in the Intermediate Championship

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO---Cullaville-3-11-Madden-1-11.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 09, 2010, 11:08:23 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 09, 2010, 09:25:30 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on August 09, 2010, 12:23:24 AM
Must admit I didn't have a great view of the first penalty. It looked a push from where I was but I couldn't tell if that was inside or not
Definitely inside. The other foot-block penalty was harsh. That said I think we were the better team throughout and would have won anyway.

I would disagree.  The foul was committed outside but the momentum carried the player inside.  The foot block penalty was just ludicrous.

The 2 penalties killed whatever game it could have ended in.  But then again, we had a couple of goal chances but never took them.

It was a free flowing game that was heading towards an exciting finale before the penalty incidents.

Fair play to Clans though.  They deserved their win.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 09, 2010, 03:09:39 PM
I think the two pens had a huge impact on the game given the times they occured. The first one was but the second one was very harsh. Having siad that I think the second one was much less relevant as the Clans were very dominant all over the pitch in the second half and didnt really need the penalty.

Fiar play to Ogs they played in the right spirit and played till the end. Clans just seemed to win all the small battles all over the field and definitley deserved their win considering they also shot an amazing amount of wides!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 09, 2010, 03:23:48 PM
Well done to the clans lads.

I thought Paudie Hughes actually had a decent enough game . When i saw him in the middle at the start i was expecting a stop start game. But i think he let most things go smoothly enough. The first pen was a brick wall and the second was a bit dubious as the lad went to block the ball and it more or less hit him on the leg rather than a foot block. He gave a few dodgy ones to both teams which resulted in scores but overall he was better than i expected. Clans overall were solid and deserved the victory. Og's No 12 o'Kane was very accurate from the dead ball.

2007 Maghery won it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 09, 2010, 10:22:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 09, 2010, 10:23:15 AM
Will the Clans be putting forward their manager for the armagh senior job. They only won that b championship because of him. Correct saan


Could all happen Jim but I hear from inside the club the assistant manager was the brains behind the set up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on August 09, 2010, 10:38:45 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 09, 2010, 10:22:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 09, 2010, 10:23:15 AM
Will the Clans be putting forward their manager for the armagh senior job. They only won that b championship because of him. Correct saan


Could all happen Jim but I hear from inside the club the assistant manager was the brians behind the set up

I don't know if their assistant manager is called Brian or not but I do know that assistant managers in general are always the brains behind the set up. The main man is nearly always a bluffer  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on August 10, 2010, 08:34:11 AM
Any word of Tir Na Nog, Peters game last night.
Or draw for intermediate semi final???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on August 10, 2010, 09:36:09 AM
Highlights and interviews with both camps as St Peters fight back to force a replay against Tir na nÓg

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--St-Peters-2-6-Tir-na-nOg-0-12.aspx

The draw for the Semi finals of the Lucozade Sport Intermediate Championship

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO--Intermediate-Semi-Final-Draw.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 10, 2010, 09:49:41 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 09, 2010, 10:22:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 09, 2010, 10:23:15 AM
Will the Clans be putting forward their manager for the armagh senior job. They only won that b championship because of him. Correct saan


Could all happen Jim but I hear from inside the club the assistant manager was the brians behind the set up

dunno about that punter, i hear the assistant manager for the B's done a runner to England and left the B manager as a one man band. I also hear the assistant manager is full of sh1t but can't comment on that as i don't know the big man at all ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on August 10, 2010, 10:40:44 AM
Cheers orange.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on August 10, 2010, 11:39:17 AM
Just to know as well, what do people make of the video and audio coverage of games etc.  As we never get any feedback, it would be nice to know were we are going wrong and right. 
The views seem to be good but any feedback welcome
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 10, 2010, 12:21:08 PM
Quote from: orange2009 on August 10, 2010, 11:39:17 AM
Just to know as well, what do people make of the video and audio coverage of games etc.  As we never get any feedback, it would be nice to know were we are going wrong and right. 
The views seem to be good but any feedback welcome

Generally they're decent enough and it's good that majority of the games get a bit of coverage...Why was there no coverage of the B championship final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 10, 2010, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 10, 2010, 09:49:41 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 09, 2010, 10:22:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 09, 2010, 10:23:15 AM
Will the Clans be putting forward their manager for the armagh senior job. They only won that b championship because of him. Correct saan


Could all happen Jim but I hear from inside the club the assistant manager was the brians behind the set up

dunno about that punter, i hear the assistant manager for the B's done a runner to England and left the B manager as a one man band. I also hear the assistant manager is full of sh1t but can't comment on that as i don't know the big man at all ;)

Ill decide I hear you're right about him being full of sh1t- rumour had he had to shift to England due to work commitments- I also hear the same legend had previously managed the B team and formed the backbone of it- before getting the chop for political reasons
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 10, 2010, 02:38:41 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 10, 2010, 02:21:46 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 10, 2010, 09:49:41 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 09, 2010, 10:22:31 PM
Quote from: JimStynes on August 09, 2010, 10:23:15 AM
Will the Clans be putting forward their manager for the armagh senior job. They only won that b championship because of him. Correct saan


Could all happen Jim but I hear from inside the club the assistant manager was the brians behind the set up

dunno about that punter, i hear the assistant manager for the B's done a runner to England and left the B manager as a one man band. I also hear the assistant manager is full of sh1t but can't comment on that as i don't know the big man at all ;)

Ill decide I hear you're right about him being full of sh1t- rumour had he had to shift to England due to work commitments- I also hear the same legend had previously managed the B team and formed the backbone of it- before getting the chop for political reasons

I hear he's a good shift worker...anyone mentions works and he shifts. Dunno about that, most of that b team from sunday would have been 1st timers. Prob only about 3-4 guys who played on previous B teams, it looks like that b manager got rid of all the dead wood left behind from previous management and brought in his own men.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 10, 2010, 05:39:00 PM
Would yous two f**k up about B teams! Neither the two of you could even play on one!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 10, 2010, 06:01:55 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 10, 2010, 05:39:00 PM
Would yous two f**k up about B teams! Neither the two of you could even play on one!

Wrong Ivedecided think you will find both the lads had successful B careers- as you may have in the future from all reports its all you are fit for at the minute- infact you wouldn't even get the B team- I can feel a touch of jealously here as you will never win any type of championship medal apart from the foresters best dressed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on August 11, 2010, 08:26:11 AM
What about the Peters having a lock-in on Monday night to celebrate their DRAW in the IFC?! Joke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on August 11, 2010, 08:35:19 AM
Does anyone have this week's fixtures?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 11, 2010, 11:59:12 AM
Lucozade Sport Intermediate Championship Semi-Finals:

Saturday 28th August @ Pearse Og Park, Armagh

Cullaville v Tir na nOg/St Peters - 4pm
Sarsfields v Silverbridge - 6pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on August 11, 2010, 01:26:26 PM
Any word on the date/venue for the Tir na nOg St Peters replay?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 11, 2010, 03:02:25 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 10, 2010, 06:01:55 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 10, 2010, 05:39:00 PM
Would yous two f**k up about B teams! Neither the two of you could even play on one!

Wrong Ivedecided think you will find both the lads had successful B careers- as you may have in the future from all reports its all you are fit for at the minute- infact you wouldn't even get the B team- I can feel a touch of jealously here as you will never win any type of championship medal apart from the foresters best dressed


You mean foresters best undressed!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on August 11, 2010, 05:56:45 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on August 11, 2010, 01:26:26 PM
Any word on the date/venue for the Tir na nOg St Peters replay?

This Sunday at Clann Eireann again, not sure of time yet, when I hear I will post.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 11, 2010, 06:44:44 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 11, 2010, 05:56:45 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on August 11, 2010, 01:26:26 PM
Any word on the date/venue for the Tir na nOg St Peters replay?

This Sunday at Clann Eireann again, not sure of time yet, when I hear I will post.

4.00
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 11, 2010, 06:45:54 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 11, 2010, 11:59:12 AM
Lucozade Sport Intermediate Championship Semi-Finals:

Saturday 28th August @ Pearse Og Park, Armagh

Cullaville v Tir na nOg/St Peters - 4pm
Sarsfields v Silverbridge - 6pm

that def TAM thought 1 was meant be on the sun.  good enough if it is, go watch these games i think
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 11, 2010, 07:37:49 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 11, 2010, 06:45:54 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 11, 2010, 11:59:12 AM
Lucozade Sport Intermediate Championship Semi-Finals:

Saturday 28th August @ Pearse Og Park, Armagh

Cullaville v Tir na nOg/St Peters - 4pm
Sarsfields v Silverbridge - 6pm

that def TAM thought 1 was meant be on the sun.  good enough if it is, go watch these games i think

Official Armagh GAA on Facebook says so, therefore I can only assume it is definite!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on August 11, 2010, 09:48:43 PM
Harps' senior league game against Madden, originally scheduled for Sunday, will now be played this Friday evening (13 August).  Throw-in is at 7.30pm at Abbey Park. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 04:15:36 PM
Very busy weekend ahead with the senior championship in full swing, I'd have thought this thread would have been busier!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 12, 2010, 05:13:25 PM
For what it is worth i will go for:

Maghery to beat Clann Eireann - Some people using their friendly with St Gall's as an indication of where C/E are at, they played St Gall's senior subs/second string so would not read into that at all. Maybe the defeat to Sarsfield's would be more appropriate indicator, or the 30pt hammering from Kilcoo earlier in the year. The team sitting second in division one to win by 5.

Pearse Og to squeeze past Mullabawn - Og's league form has been indifferent, but I fancy them to get past a dogged Mullabawn team. Won't be much in it but Ogs should have too much for a team who's division 1 status is probably more important. Pearse Og by 2

Ballymacnab to beat Killeavy - Killeavy will be strengthened significantly with McDonnell back playing. Their defence is suspect IMO though and fancy the 'nab who have been flying in Div 2 to progress by a point or two.

Cross to beat Cruppen - Can't see anything other than a Cross victory. 8 pts or more.

Dromintee to beat Whitecross - With countymen on board Dromintee should have too much for a Whitecross side that has been on a downward spiral in the league. Dromintee by 4.

Granemore to beat Newtown - Not really up to speed on Div 2, I heard Granemore are missing players and this is no doubt reflected in their defeat to B'hegan and draw with the Tones. That said my sources in the second tier tell me Newton are no big shakes either. Granemore by 2.

Cullyhanna v Clans - Head says Cullyhanna, heart says Clans. Clans league form has been poor of late, an already limited squad has been hit badly with injuries to key men and holidays throughout the summer. That said I think Clans are capable of causing an upset. Clans by 1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 12, 2010, 06:09:20 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D

illdecide your a real game changer! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 12, 2010, 06:10:43 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D

maghery by 4
ogs by 4
killeavey and nab draw
cross by 8
granemore by 3
st pats by 1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on August 12, 2010, 08:32:47 PM
st pats is the bet of the weekend,even at 4/5..

hopefully a silverbridge culloville final in IFC, and the bridge get hammered.lol :-X
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 13, 2010, 11:37:48 AM
Quote from: 1life 1club on August 12, 2010, 08:32:47 PM
st pats is the bet of the weekend,even at 4/5..

hopefully a silverbridge culloville final in IFC, and the bridge get hammered.lol :-X
thats not very neighbourly. i,m sure the bridge boys will be in armagh to cheer you,s on at the weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 13, 2010, 12:14:49 PM
7/4 Whitecross 15/2 Dromintee 1/2
8/15 Maghery 7/1 Clann Eireann 7/4
10/3 Mullaghbawn 8/1 Pearse Og 1/4
4/5 St Pats 13/2 Clann na Gael 5/4
2/7 Granemore 8/1 St Michaels 3/1
6/1 Carrickcruppen 10/1 Cross 1/10

Tommy French odds just realeased
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on August 13, 2010, 03:10:09 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on August 12, 2010, 08:32:47 PM
st pats is the bet of the weekend,even at 4/5..

hopefully a silverbridge culloville final in IFC, and the bridge get hammered.lol :-X
And cullyhanna ppl wonder why there hated so much????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on August 13, 2010, 03:32:35 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D

Maghery by 7
Ogs by 5
The Nab by 3
Cross by 6
Granemore by 4
St Pats by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 13, 2010, 03:57:24 PM
Any handicap odds illdecide, a bit much to ask but i think Mullabawn might be a bit of + points value tonight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Dannymcfella on August 13, 2010, 05:19:45 PM
Anyone got the venues/times for the games??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 13, 2010, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D

Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 8pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 7pts
Killeavy to beat the Nab
Cross to beat Cruppin by 15pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 8pts
Clans to beat St Pats by 5pts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 13, 2010, 05:50:00 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 13, 2010, 03:57:24 PM
Any handicap odds illdecide, a bit much to ask but i think Mullabawn might be a bit of + points value tonight.

we were lucky getting straight odds never mind handicap's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on August 13, 2010, 08:13:30 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 13, 2010, 11:37:48 AM
Quote from: 1life 1club on August 12, 2010, 08:32:47 PM
st pats is the bet of the weekend,even at 4/5..

hopefully a silverbridge culloville final in IFC, and the bridge get hammered.lol :-X
thats not very neighbourly. i,m sure the bridge boys will be in armagh to cheer you,s on at the weekend.
nothing wrong with a good rivalary, i doubt it very much,they'l be in their pitch (ibrox) preparing for their match.lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 13, 2010, 09:10:51 PM
Harps beat Madden 2-13 to 0-4 this evening in Abbey, good first half performance game as good as over at HT up 1-11 to 0-2, 2nd half poor.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 13, 2010, 09:48:56 PM
Dromintee 1-10 Whitecross 0-12. A lot closer than most people thought...i bet there was a few Dromintee men cropping it late on in that game...lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on August 13, 2010, 11:07:08 PM
i hear w`cross missed a pen and several goal chances
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 14, 2010, 01:49:17 AM
The closeness of that result didn't surprise me one bit. Let's face it Dromintee are an average side and a long way of the Cross and the Og's. Whitecross were always going to put it up to them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 14, 2010, 01:53:28 AM
Though i must add Dromintee have achieved what they wanted, a place in the next round. Any team would settle for this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 14, 2010, 01:34:25 PM
silverbridge 2-04 wolfe tone 2-15
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 14, 2010, 01:34:51 PM
harps beat madden easily last night 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: handocommando on August 14, 2010, 06:22:00 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 06, 2010, 09:37:21 PM
Quote from: handocommando on August 06, 2010, 05:08:20 PM
For the record I scored 12 points the other nite and I'm 32.

You never did pass the ball McCann!!! (if it is you) ;)

Can you put the lads straight here, you did headbutt Benny and tell him to go fcuk himself because of your lack of 1st team opportunities for the last 15 years or so.

thats ballicks on both counts!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on August 14, 2010, 07:34:31 PM
ANY SCORES FROM TONIGHTS GAMES
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on August 14, 2010, 07:42:29 PM
Ogs 1.10
Bawn 0.2


Maghery 0.6
Clan Eireann 0.6
CE 2men sent of, Maghery 1

Both half time scores
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 14, 2010, 08:05:48 PM
Keep them updates coming lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on August 14, 2010, 08:15:47 PM
Ogs are getting it tight now... 3-14 0-3!!!! :-O

RESULT: 3-15 0-5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on August 14, 2010, 08:25:35 PM
All level in Maghery game, dont no score.

Another sent of for Maghery. Got the updates from Orchard county
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 14, 2010, 08:38:51 PM
Maghery won by a point
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 14, 2010, 09:28:55 PM
Took in the C/Eireann - Maghery match. Not suprising there were four men sent off tbh. Two notoriously dirty teams with an inept referee. Bit of a melee after 6 or 7 mins which saw Stefan Forker (wrongfully IMO) sent off for Maghery and Shanks & McConville for Clann Eireann. Low scoring in the second half, C/E up 6-2 at one stage but Maghery fought back to level at ht.

Second half saw another Maghery man sent off (one of the Forkers) to even things up. Nip and tuck there after. Maghery pulled two ahead in the last 5 and were probably deserved winners in the end. Had C/E focused on football they'd have won.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 14, 2010, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 13, 2010, 03:57:24 PM
Any handicap odds illdecide, a bit much to ask but i think Mullabawn might be a bit of + points value tonight.

I know my stuff, ;) >:( anyone got the ogs line up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 14, 2010, 11:25:19 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 14, 2010, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 13, 2010, 03:57:24 PM
Any handicap odds illdecide, a bit much to ask but i think Mullabawn might be a bit of + points value tonight.

I know my stuff, ;) >:( anyone got the ogs line up
Kinnso
Mccoy
Jp
Barton
Turley
Raffo
Duff
Dd
Hughesy
Moorso
Decy mcauley
Ginger
Shorty
Ross
Cully
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 15, 2010, 02:49:43 AM
Think cross should now be about 1/12 for the championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on August 15, 2010, 11:05:24 AM
took in the ogs game last nite,,fair enuf they played sum mighty football and still should be favourites to win the county again,,but mullaghbawn were absolutly crap,they wouldnt win the junior c,ship..they were beat before the throw in..must add e mc nulty got a severe roasting from k.hughes..and alsowhen you see sum of the duds on the county panel it makes u wonder why the likes of shorty clarke arnt playing for armagh..paul duffy was immense last nite. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 15, 2010, 03:40:35 PM
Cullyhana won 1.16 to 0.9, clans poor but a good disciplined & organised performance by cullyhana - worthy of note as joe mcmanus wud say!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2010, 04:15:58 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 15, 2010, 03:40:35 PM
Cullyhana won 1.16 to 0.9, clans poor but a good disciplined & organised performance by cullyhana - worthy of note as joe mcmanus wud say!

Thought we played really well this afternoon. Much the better side throughout.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 15, 2010, 04:26:22 PM
Yes much the better team and a fair result. No 12 for cullyhanna got the run of the field and was always an outlet for the defence thought he had a very good game. Cullyhanna far more ruthless up front and the clans were very wasteful but i don't think it would have mattered. Clans big players didn't perform but fair play to Cullyhanna deserved winners good luck in the next round.

Not amused by a couple of Wolfe Tones dickheads with Cullyhanna colours on. If the sole ambition of the Tones is to hate the clans then i actually feel sorry for them. Neutrals from North armagh wearing the colours of a south Armagh team, never seen the likes of it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2010, 04:43:30 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 15, 2010, 04:26:22 PM
Yes much the better team and a fair result. No 12 for cullyhanna got the run of the field and was always an outlet for the defence thought he had a very good game. Cullyhanna far more ruthless up front and the clans were very wasteful but i don't think it would have mattered. Clans big players didn't perform but fair play to Cullyhanna deserved winners good luck in the next round.

Not amused by a couple of Wolfe Tones d**kheads with Cullyhanna colours on. If the sole ambition of the Tones is to hate the clans then i actually feel sorry for them. Neutrals from North armagh wearing the colours of a south Armagh team, never seen the likes of it.

They did well to get a piece of clothing with our colours! Landsdowne rugby men?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 15, 2010, 05:31:55 PM
I too noticed a tones tube wearing cullyhanna colours. Aren't abbey colours the same? Possibly one of those tops?

Anyway, fair play to st pats. Thought they played well, particularly their half forward line. Deserved winners. I never saw a clans team give so much ball away. I thought at times Jimmy McKee was keeping the clans in it...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2010, 05:42:27 PM
Senior Football Championship: St Patrick's 1-16 Clan na Gael 0-9

St Patrick's opened their championship campaign at a sun drenched Abbey Park on Sunday afternoon when they faced Clan na Gael in a much anticipated fixture. Although Cullyhanna had won comfortably in the League meeting between the sides, a much tighter affair was expected for this clash. The game began in a nip and tuck fashion with the sides exchanging pointed frees, Eugene Casey on the scoreboard for St Pat's. A great Clans point under pressure was then cancelled out by a brilliant Barry McConville long range effort from almost 45 metres. Clans edged into the lead again with a free before the match reached its first crucial juncture when Conor O'Neill produced a superb double save to prevent his side going four points behind. Having been rescued by the goalkeeper, the Cullyhanna side sprang into life with Tony Donnelly kicking an excellent point from a short Robbie Tasker "45". Shane McKeever then added two pointed frees to put Cullyhanna in front for the first time, a lead they were never to relinquish. St Pat's went further ahead when a searching Ciaran McKeever kick found Robbie Tasker, he passed to Eugene Casey who kicked a good point under pressure. Cullyhanna then produced the score of the game with an excellent move down the left hand touchline involving Barry McConville and Eugene which resulted in Paudie McCreesh kicking a great score from a tight angle.

By this stage St Pat's were lording matters in the middle of the park thanks to their midfield duo of Barry McConville and Tony Donnelly as well as some great work from Shane McKeever and Paudie McCreesh who won a terrific amount of possession in that sector. Robbie Tasker got his name on the scoreline before a majestic kick from Barry McConville put his side 6 points in front. Shane McKeever added another score before the break with a Clan na Gael pointed free their sole reply. At half-time St Pat's fully merited their 0-10 to 0-4 lead.

Mal Mackin began to exert his influence on proceedings early in the second half with a fine point from the left hand touchline before Clan na Gael enjoyed their best period of the match as 3 pointed frees in a row brought them within 4 points. That was to be as good as it got for the Lurgan men however as Barry McConville burst through their defence and passed to Mal Mackin who stroked the ball over the bar. A Shane McKeever free and a Ciaran McKeever fisted point restored Cullyhanna's 7 point advantage. Clans replied with a long range point before the match entered a scoreless period. With 11 minutes to go, a Clan na Gael pointed free brought them within five, however the game was ended as a contest when substitute Gary McCooey made a superb catch at midfield. He found Eugene Casey with a good pass who exchanged the ball to Liam O'Hare at pace. Clean through on goal, the centre half forward made no mistake and capped an excellent individual performance by firing the ball to the net. Points from Mal Mackin and Shane McKeever followed as St Pat's ran out comfortable victors.

This was a Cullyhanna performance with which it was difficult to find fault. Having been in fairly indifferent form over the past fortnight, it was pleasing to note that arguably their most dominant performance of the season was saved for when it really mattered. The victory was a real team effort with St Pat's winning the individual battles throughout the field. While no doubt a stiffer examination will be faced in the quarter-final, if the side can keep continue to perform at this level, they stand every chance of enjoying a good championship run.

Starting XV: C O'Neill; B Savage, S Reel, M Murray; E McArdle; E McArdle, C McKeever (0-1), P McCreesh (0-1); T Donnelly (0-1), B McConville (0-2); A Mackin, L O'Hare (1-0), S McKeever (0-5); E Casey (0-2), M Mackin (0-3) R Tasker (0-1). Subs Used: G McCooey, P Casey

Under 12 Armagh Championship Final: Clann Eireann 4-12 St Patrick's 2-6

The showpiece of the Under 12 season took place on Saturday past when, in a repeat of last year's final, 2008 Champions St Patrick's met the 2009 victors at Poyntzpass. In game played in good conditions, it was Clann Eireann who notched the opening two points, one from play and one from a free. Clann Eireann then extended their lead with an excellent goal as a brilliantly struck shot flew past the St Pat's goalkeeper who was left with no chance. When Clan Eireann added a third point, they seemed well in control however a great run from Paudie Conlon lifted the spirits of the Cullyhanna side. The resultant free was dropped short to Jamie McEvoy who kicked a good score to get St Pat's off the mark. A good point from Jason Duffy followed before Clann Eireann managed another point. By this stage Jason Duffy was beginning to exert some dominance around the midfield sector and was unlucky to see a goal bound shot well saved. The midfielder then found Stephen Keenan who kicked a good point to bring his side within 4 points. However despite dominating the final stages of the half, crucially St Pat's could not muster any further scores and two late Clan Eireann points put them 1-6 to 0-3 ahead at half-time.

Given the pattern of play in the first half, Cullyhanna were quite unfortuntate to be facing a six point deficit at half-time with the economical nature of the Lurgan side's shooting the major difference between the teams. With Cullyhanna needing to hit the ground running in the second half, unfortunately it was Clann Eireann who got the perfect start with a goal in the first minute to extend their lead to 9 points. A Clann Eireann free put them 10 in front however Cullyhanna rallied somewhat with a great long range point from Paudie Conlon and a pointed free from Ross McQuillan. Indeed St Pat's were unlucky to see an instinctive shot from Liam Conlon hit the outside of the post as they pressed hard to cut the Clann Eireann lead. A long range Clann Eireann point followed. With Cullyhanna needing goals, 3 major scores arrived in the space of 5 minutes, unfortunately 2 of them came for Clann Eireann as Kyle McParland's punched effort from a Paudie Conlon shot was sandwiched between two Clann Eireann goals which gave the Lurgan men an unassailable lead. Although the game was effectively over, St Pat's did not give up as Ross McQuillan kicked a superb point with the outside of his foot. After another Clann Eireann point, a Jason Duffy long range shot found the net for a second Cullyhanna goal. However the score was only ever likely to be a consolation as 2 late Clann Eireann points ensured that they ran out worthy victors on a scoreline of Clann Eireann 4-12 St Patrick's 2-6.

While the Cullyhanna will obviously have been disappointed at the defeat, they can take great pride in their efforts to reach this stage for a third season in a row. On the day they were simply beaten by a better team and while all fifteen gave of their best, the midfield diamond of Dermot Savage, Ross McQuillan, Jason Duffy and Stephen Keenan performed particularly admirably. The nature of finals is that one team must be defeated but if this excellent young crop of Cullyhanna players continue their footballing development, there is little doubt they will make a great contribution to football in the club in the coming years.

Starting XV: Paudie McParland; Hugh McMahon, Conor McCombe, Colm Donnelly; Diarmuid Brecknall, Dermot Savage, Emmet Kelly, Jason Duffy (1-1), Ross McQuillan (0-2), Jamie McEvoy (0-1), L Conlon, Paudie Conlon (0-1); Kyle McParland (1-0), Stephen Keenan (0-1), James Toner. Subs Used: Gene McNulty, Dylan Gray

Division 4: Derrynoose 1-16 St Patrick's II 1-3

Having managed to reverse a heavy defeat earlier in the season last week, the Seconds side were hoping to do the same again when they met Derrynoose in Cullyhanna on Sunday afternoon. In a low scoring opening quarter, Derrynoose dominated affairs and managed to kick the first 5 points before St Pat's managed to get a foothold in the match as Paddy McDonnell found Patsy McKeever who kicked a nice score and a fine individual run from Kieran Nugent resulted in a point. Trailing by 4 at the break, Derrynoose got the opening score of the second half, however St Pat's soon replied when Patsy McKeever found Cathal McGlade who slotted the ball to the net. A Patsy McKeever point brought St Pat's within a point but this unfortunately signalled a Cullyhanna collapse as Derrynoose seized control of proceedings, kicking 1-9 without reply to run out comfortable victors. Next up for the Seconds side is a home match against Mullabrack.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on August 15, 2010, 05:45:38 PM
your quick on the ball tam.lol

good win for us today,,we wont be getting carried away tho. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 15, 2010, 08:57:32 PM
U have to be telling pork pies el
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on August 15, 2010, 08:59:18 PM
Good one El !

Full time

Cross 4-14 Cruppin 0-09
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 15, 2010, 09:03:06 PM
I see that post has now gone lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 15, 2010, 09:05:19 PM
 
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 15, 2010, 08:57:32 PM
U have to be telling pork pies el

Apparently so.  I had seen it on the orchard county website.  someone was doing a bit of spoofing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 15, 2010, 09:15:41 PM
I took small palpatations there lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 15, 2010, 09:23:34 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 15, 2010, 09:15:41 PM
I took small palpatations there lol

I was the same. Had me going for a minute
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 15, 2010, 09:26:55 PM
What happened?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on August 15, 2010, 09:28:11 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 15, 2010, 09:23:34 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 15, 2010, 09:15:41 PM
I took small palpatations there lol

I was the same. Had me going for a minute

f**k's sake... I got a phonecall from Red Neds telling me  :D :D :D by the time they told they were corrected again before the call finished!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on August 15, 2010, 09:31:46 PM
 >:( same here ffs  :'( was about 2 start dancing  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on August 15, 2010, 10:05:59 PM

Justin McNulty new Laois Manager
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on August 15, 2010, 10:19:08 PM
ffs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 15, 2010, 10:30:45 PM
Cross looked very hungry 2nite, them & ogs will be worth watching - if it happens, which i think it will. At this point if harps were out i think i'd want to see an ogs win, if cross get back on top it cud be the start of another dynasty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 15, 2010, 10:49:44 PM
granemore bt st michaels by 5 pts in a poor enough game with kieran toner again lining out at full forward but was restored to the midfield sector for the 2nd half .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 16, 2010, 02:21:26 AM
Still think cross are a nailed on cert lads. Another year in the doldrums for les blues
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 07:25:10 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 15, 2010, 04:26:22 PM
Yes much the better team and a fair result. No 12 for cullyhanna got the run of the field and was always an outlet for the defence thought he had a very good game. Cullyhanna far more ruthless up front and the clans were very wasteful but i don't think it would have mattered. Clans big players didn't perform but fair play to Cullyhanna deserved winners good luck in the next round.

Not amused by a couple of Wolfe Tones d**kheads with Cullyhanna colours on. If the sole ambition of the Tones is to hate the clans then i actually feel sorry for them. Neutrals from North armagh wearing the colours of a south Armagh team, never seen the likes of it.

i was wearing an abbey cbs jersey warm day took my jumper off!i apologise if i offended anyone!clans cant blame ref bout getting hammmered for a change!so resort to verbals here.some people need to grow up!our ambition was to win intermediatede championshio,we didint do it.our fault.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 07:34:48 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 07:25:10 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 15, 2010, 04:26:22 PM
Yes much the better team and a fair result. No 12 for cullyhanna got the run of the field and was always an outlet for the defence thought he had a very good game. Cullyhanna far more ruthless up front and the clans were very wasteful but i don't think it would have mattered. Clans big players didn't perform but fair play to Cullyhanna deserved winners good luck in the next round.

Not amused by a couple of Wolfe Tones d**kheads with Cullyhanna colours on. If the sole ambition of the Tones is to hate the clans then i actually feel sorry for them. Neutrals from North armagh wearing the colours of a south Armagh team, never seen the likes of it.

i was wearing an abbey cbs jersey warm day took my jumper off!i apologise if i offended anyone!clans cant blame ref bout getting hammmered for a change!so resort to verbals here.some people need to grow up!our ambition was to win intermediatede championshio,we didint do it.our fault.


w**ker- sums the tones up - win the intermediatede - are you serious
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 08:31:20 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 07:34:48 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 07:25:10 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 15, 2010, 04:26:22 PM
Yes much the better team and a fair result. No 12 for cullyhanna got the run of the field and was always an outlet for the defence thought he had a very good game. Cullyhanna far more ruthless up front and the clans were very wasteful but i don't think it would have mattered. Clans big players didn't perform but fair play to Cullyhanna deserved winners good luck in the next round.

Not amused by a couple of Wolfe Tones d**kheads with Cullyhanna colours on. If the sole ambition of the Tones is to hate the clans then i actually feel sorry for them. Neutrals from North armagh wearing the colours of a south Armagh team, never seen the likes of it.

i was wearing an abbey cbs jersey warm day took my jumper off!i apologise if i offended anyone!clans cant blame ref bout getting hammmered for a change!so resort to verbals here.some people need to grow up!our ambition was to win intermediatede championshio,we didint do it.our fault.


w**ker- sums the tones up - win the intermediatede - are you serious

They could hardly try to win the senior when they weren't in it brains.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 08:34:22 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 13, 2010, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D

Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 8pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 7pts
Killeavy to beat the Nab
Cross to beat Cruppin by 15pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 8pts
Clans to beat St Pats by 5pts

:D :D :D :D

Some punter!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 08:52:02 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 07:34:48 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 07:25:10 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 15, 2010, 04:26:22 PM
Yes much the better team and a fair result. No 12 for cullyhanna got the run of the field and was always an outlet for the defence thought he had a very good game. Cullyhanna far more ruthless up front and the clans were very wasteful but i don't think it would have mattered. Clans big players didn't perform but fair play to Cullyhanna deserved winners good luck in the next round.

Not amused by a couple of Wolfe Tones d**kheads with Cullyhanna colours on. If the sole ambition of the Tones is to hate the clans then i actually feel sorry for them. Neutrals from North armagh wearing the colours of a south Armagh team, never seen the likes of it.

i was wearing an abbey cbs jersey warm day took my jumper off!i apologise if i offended anyone!clans cant blame ref bout getting hammmered for a change!so resort to verbals here.some people need to grow up!our ambition was to win intermediatede championshio,we didint do it.our fault.


w**ker- sums the tones up - win the intermediatede - are you serious

?on yesterdays performance clans would struggle in intermediate imo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 09:25:24 AM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 08:34:22 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 13, 2010, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D

Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 8pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 7pts
Killeavy to beat the Nab
Cross to beat Cruppin by 15pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 8pts
Clans to beat St Pats by 5pts

:D :D :D :D

Some punter!

good lad - what a shock a clann eriann man with too much to say- I see did  Ryan the star henderson did all the scoring for you muppets- he must have some muppets playing alongside him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on August 16, 2010, 09:38:29 AM
Highlights and reaction from selected Senior Championship games as Dromintee defeat Whitecross in the Senior Football Championship, Crossmaglen overcome Carrickcruppen, defending champions Pearse Og's hammer Mullaghbawn and St Pats Cullyhanna earn a 10 point victory over Clan na Gael

http://armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV.aspx

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 09:25:24 AM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 08:34:22 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 13, 2010, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D

Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 8pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 7pts
Killeavy to beat the Nab
Cross to beat Cruppin by 15pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 8pts
Clans to beat St Pats by 5pts

:D :D :D :D

Some punter!

good lad - what a shock a clann eriann man with too much to say- I see did all the scoring for you muppets- he must have some muppets playing alongside him

u seem sober enough! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 16, 2010, 10:16:28 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 09:25:24 AM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 08:34:22 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 13, 2010, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D

Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 8pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 7pts
Killeavy to beat the Nab
Cross to beat Cruppin by 15pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 8pts
Clans to beat St Pats by 5pts

:D :D :D :D

Some punter!

good lad - what a shock a clann eriann man with too much to say- I see did all the scoring for you muppets- he must have some muppets playing alongside him

u seem sober enough! :D

:D  I was thinking that myself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 16, 2010, 10:53:01 AM
Felt sick after the match yesterday. Least of our worries is some cash clown wearing Cullyhanna colours.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 16, 2010, 11:10:46 AM
clans looked light weight against st. pats and the new star? campbell was very poor and took some verbals from the clans support for not trying hard enough. St pats will be dangerous in the next round. Cross won easily despite hardly winning a ball at midfield with cruppin gifting the 1st goal. cruppins defence was poor. ogs will want to move up a gear after some fast play but mbawn threw the towell in early. Granemore,s match was very poor and newtown could have won it missing an open goal before granemores last minute goal. But as someone said before its about getting over the 1st round. clans and mbawn might struggle now to get the points to survive. lookin forward to tonites draw, any predictions on the fixtures.  fancy maghery v harps and st pats v cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 16, 2010, 11:13:27 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 14, 2010, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 13, 2010, 03:57:24 PM
Any handicap odds illdecide, a bit much to ask but i think Mullabawn might be a bit of + points value tonight.

I know my stuff, ;) >:( anyone got the ogs line up
think u may stop this prediction game real
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 16, 2010, 11:45:09 AM
The consolation for clans being beaten for me was getting a treble up, done Maghery, Dromintee and P Og's so at least i made a few quid but the match yesterday took the gloss of it. I would love to say a whole lot about yesterdays game but i better not as a few lads may fall out with me over it, there was not to many Clans lads could look themselves in the mirror today and say i done my bit but in fairness to the lads it's not all their fault and the problem at Davitt Park is deeper than the players.

The fact that we've had no training facilities and no home pitch this year certainly didn't help in what was always going to be a difficult year but you just have to get on with it. I still believe the Clans would be a match for all teams in the county if we had a fit 15, the probelm with the Clans is the bench might not be the strongest and if we have lads injured or missing (work, holidays etc) then we really struggle and of course it doesn't help when lads have to fill in for positions that don't suit them.

Anyway enough of the rambling, St Pats fully deserved their win and i wish them all the best of luck in the next round. With a bit of luck in the draw they can make it to the semi finals and they'll be a match for any team in Armagh, i would like to see them playing either Og's or Cross in the final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 16, 2010, 12:27:44 PM
Yeah warm day and took off your top and you just happened to have a Abbey CBS Top on which is identical to the cullyhanna colours whilst at a cullyhanna game  :D :D :D  not to mention your mate was slightly warm aswell and just happened to have one on to  :D :D Just admit that you have a hatred for the clans and you were there to support Cullyhanna. I am not verbally insulting anyone i am merely stating a fact . This incident had no bearing on the match or the clans performance which i agree was shocking and would struggle in the intermediate with a performance like that. Then you are bringing alsorts up about the clans and refs, i ask you what did the clans ever do on you? For me observing two Tones lads wearing the colours of Cullyhanna seemed a bit strange and i certainly wouldn't wear the opposition colours of any other club team on match days. But each to their own.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 16, 2010, 12:47:59 PM
What are the thoughts regarding the meeting of Killeavy and Ballymacnab this evening?

Can confirm Charlie stubbs is one of life's gentlemen! He should not be judged on his little fashion faux pas yesterday!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 12:49:53 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 16, 2010, 12:27:44 PM
Yeah warm day and took off your top and you just happened to have a Abbey CBS Top on which is identical to the cullyhanna colours whilst at a cullyhanna game  :D :D :D  not to mention your mate was slightly warm aswell and just happened to have one on to  :D :D Just admit that you have a hatred for the clans and you were there to support Cullyhanna. I am not verbally insulting anyone i am merely stating a fact . This incident had no bearing on the match or the clans performance which i agree was shocking and would struggle in the intermediate with a performance like that. Then you are bringing alsorts up about the clans and refs, i ask you what did the clans ever do on you? For me observing two Tones lads wearing the colours of Cullyhanna seemed a bit strange and i certainly wouldn't wear the opposition colours of any other club team on match days. But each to their own.

who was the 2nd tones man?went to game with a boy from craigavon who has no affiliation with tones and happened to be wearing a down top! a good friend of mine plays 4 the clans and would have liked see him do well.  fitzroyalty can varify that i was prob first person to contact and congratulate him on last weeks b championship win. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 16, 2010, 12:55:00 PM
We shall put this one to bed in the interest of north armagh relations lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 16, 2010, 12:58:57 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 16, 2010, 12:47:59 PM
What are the thoughts regarding the meeting of Killeavy and Ballymacnab this evening?

Can confirm Charlie stubbs is one of life's gentlemen! He should not be judged on his little fashion faux pas yesterday!

Ball-licker
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stiffler on August 16, 2010, 01:20:22 PM
I can confirm that Charlie Stubbs is also one of lifes gentlemen!

His Abbey top is one of his favourite possessions, I have seen him don the garment on many ocassions!

Was his sidekick ONL?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 16, 2010, 02:18:14 PM
Quote from: stiffler on August 16, 2010, 01:20:22 PM
I can confirm that Charlie Stubbs is also one of lifes gentlemen!

His Abbey top is one of his favourite possessions, I have seen him don the garment on many ocassions!

Was his sidekick ONL?

Correct...with his down top on. Specky we fecker :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 16, 2010, 02:23:23 PM
Seen you,s at the game yday if it was a abbey jersey, gettin a bit tight on you or wer u flexing ur muscles to impress :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 16, 2010, 02:58:37 PM
Ok stiffler u and him are now in the black book lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on August 16, 2010, 03:05:30 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 16, 2010, 12:47:59 PM
What are the thoughts regarding the meeting of Killeavy and Ballymacnab this evening?

Can confirm Charlie stubbs is one of life's gentlemen! He should not be judged on his little fashion faux pas yesterday!
nab could cause an upset,killeavy are very average and the nab are on a winning streak..nab by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 09:25:24 AM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 08:34:22 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 13, 2010, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D

Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 8pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 7pts
Killeavy to beat the Nab
Cross to beat Cruppin by 15pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 8pts
Clans to beat St Pats by 5pts

:D :D :D :D

Some punter!

good lad - what a shock a clann eriann man with too much to say- I see did all the scoring for you muppets- he must have some muppets playing alongside him

u seem sober enough! :D

good one fool- thought you have guessed Henderson- how you getting on with the rioting now- at least you lads will have the time now your seasons over- lake street will be buzzing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 09:25:24 AM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 08:34:22 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 13, 2010, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D

Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 8pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 7pts
Killeavy to beat the Nab
Cross to beat Cruppin by 15pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 8pts
Clans to beat St Pats by 5pts

:D :D :D :D

Some punter!

good lad - what a shock a clann eriann man with too much to say- I see did all the scoring for you muppets- he must have some muppets playing alongside him

u seem sober enough! :D

good one fool- thought you have guessed Henderson- how you getting on with the rioting now- at least you lads will have the time now your seasons over- lake street will be buzzing

wasnt at the game so hardly going guess big muppet!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 16, 2010, 04:39:27 PM
take killeavy by 3, there not a bad team especially if stevie hits form and young king is a good one. nab will be missing mc cone i think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 16, 2010, 05:05:10 PM
Is the draw immediately after this game or on Tuesday Morning and is it just one draw or will they sort out he semis as well?

My Predictions:
Maghery V Harps
Cross v Drom
Ogs v Nab/Killeavy
Granemore v St. Pats
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 05:32:53 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 09:25:24 AM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 08:34:22 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 13, 2010, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D

Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 8pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 7pts
Killeavy to beat the Nab
Cross to beat Cruppin by 15pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 8pts
Clans to beat St Pats by 5pts

:D :D :D :D

Some punter!

good lad - what a shock a clann eriann man with too much to say- I see did all the scoring for you muppets- he must have some muppets playing alongside him

u seem sober enough! :D

good one fool- thought you have guessed Henderson- how you getting on with the rioting now- at least you lads will have the time now your seasons over- lake street will be buzzing

wasnt at the game so hardly going guess big muppet!

Ok Waldo - if you werent at the game keep your stupid opioions to yourself.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 06:19:29 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 09:25:24 AM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 08:34:22 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 13, 2010, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D

Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 8pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 7pts
Killeavy to beat the Nab
Cross to beat Cruppin by 15pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 8pts
Clans to beat St Pats by 5pts

:D :D :D :D

Some punter!

good lad - what a shock a clann eriann man with too much to say- I see did all the scoring for you muppets- he must have some muppets playing alongside him

u seem sober enough! :D

good one fool- thought you have guessed Henderson- how you getting on with the rioting now- at least you lads will have the time now your seasons over- lake street will be buzzing

Can you not read who you are replying to Stig? You going about too proclaiming how smart you are too, you can't even grasp proper spelling and grammar! Maybe you should stay over in England full time and learn the Queen's English saan, do us all a favour.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Worker on August 16, 2010, 06:28:20 PM
Don't see an issue with a tones man wearing st pats colours at the game, what odds does this make?

It would be worse if he was wearing a top of a neighbouring county, or even worse a soccer top.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 06:19:29 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 09:25:24 AM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 08:34:22 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 13, 2010, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D

Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 8pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 7pts
Killeavy to beat the Nab
Cross to beat Cruppin by 15pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 8pts
Clans to beat St Pats by 5pts

:D :D :D :D

Some punter!

good lad - what a shock a clann eriann man with too much to say- I see did all the scoring for you muppets- he must have some muppets playing alongside him

u seem sober enough! :D

good one fool- thought you have guessed Henderson- how you getting on with the rioting now- at least you lads will have the time now your seasons over- lake street will be buzzing

Can you not read who you are replying to Stig? You going about too proclaiming how smart you are too, you can't even grasp proper spelling and grammar! Maybe you should stay over in England full time and learn the Queen's English saan, do us all a favour.

No doubt wee shea- i know who I was replaying too- as for being smart -I would say your a real bright spark- I ll be back in Lurgan at the weekend saan- and don't you forget it- ps I apologise for any spelling or grammar errors in advance.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 07:53:07 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 06:19:29 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 09:25:24 AM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 08:34:22 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 13, 2010, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D

Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 8pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 7pts
Killeavy to beat the Nab
Cross to beat Cruppin by 15pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 8pts
Clans to beat St Pats by 5pts

:D :D :D :D

Some punter!

good lad - what a shock a clann eriann man with too much to say- I see did all the scoring for you muppets- he must have some muppets playing alongside him

u seem sober enough! :D

good one fool- thought you have guessed Henderson- how you getting on with the rioting now- at least you lads will have the time now your seasons over- lake street will be buzzing

Can you not read who you are replying to Stig? You going about too proclaiming how smart you are too, you can't even grasp proper spelling and grammar! Maybe you should stay over in England full time and learn the Queen's English saan, do us all a favour.

No doubt wee shea- i know who I was replaying too- as for being smart -I would say your a real bright spark- I ll be back in Lurgan at the weekend saan- and don't you forget it- ps I apologise for any spelling or grammar errors in advance.

- No capitals on a name
- No commas/full stops
- "Replay" instead of reply
- Space instead of an apostrophe in the word "I'll"

I don't know about being a bright spark but after reading your posts I would say a child could type better than you.

I sense you are angry after that toothless display yesterday, sure if you even cared that much you would have been at the match, not sitting in England saan. Maybe this years B management should step up to the plate, maybe just the B manager though, his assistant didn't have a clue.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 16, 2010, 08:06:47 PM
Looks like the Nab are getting it rightn handy against Killeavey

1-12 to 6 at the minute
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 16, 2010, 08:09:58 PM
Or maybe not........ 15-12
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 16, 2010, 08:11:52 PM
Killeavy making some comeback...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Archie Mitchell on August 16, 2010, 08:14:32 PM
charlie stubbs getting a bit of a rough time here. Have known charlie for many's a year now and he's a good GAA man, has numerous GAA tops from a number of different clubs and counties. I have seen him wear the Abbey top on many occasions, as well as his favourite Monaghan top.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 16, 2010, 08:23:52 PM
Congratulations to Ballymacnab.  They held out in the end
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on August 16, 2010, 08:42:35 PM
cross v harps g'more v ogs nab v dromintee, let the verbal sparring begin taken from armagh gaa net
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on August 16, 2010, 09:00:09 PM
Quote from: Harpo on August 16, 2010, 08:42:35 PM
cross v harps g'more v ogs nab v dromintee, let the verbal sparring begin taken from armagh gaa net

Don't forget St Pats and Maghery!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 16, 2010, 09:23:06 PM
Draw not kind to Harps but so what, I was at our Minor game tonight when the news came through and I didn't see any disappointed faces, we should be easily motivated.  Cross will obviously be big favourites but (at the risk of giving us the Kiss of death) we always seem to be able to give them a game.  Just hope we get to the game with a full panel to select from.

St Peters beat Harps tonight 2.12 to 2.10 in the minor champ
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 16, 2010, 09:26:32 PM
What player impressed yous over the weekend in the championship.

I was at 4 games and the player who impressed me most was Stephen Harold of Carrickcruppen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sickboy on August 16, 2010, 09:29:02 PM
think gavin mcparland would have impressed kileavey tonight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Worker on August 16, 2010, 09:34:14 PM
was marsden back in the clans team? how he play?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on August 16, 2010, 09:42:13 PM
q/final draw maghery v st pats
                cross v harps
                 ogs v g`more
                d`tee v nab

predictions
                     maghery    cross   ogs    nab   
semi final draw    maghery v nab  cross v ogs  :P ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 10:01:47 PM
Quote from: The Worker on August 16, 2010, 09:34:14 PM
was marsden back in the clans team? how he play?

No, he only played B football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: úllord on August 16, 2010, 11:29:18 PM
Video of tonights draw for the Armagh Senior Champiuonship Quarter Finals

http://www.armagh-gaa.com/Orchard-TV/News/VIDEO---Armagh-Senior-Championship-Quarter-Final-d.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on August 16, 2010, 11:30:52 PM
great win for st pats 2nite in the minor c,ship..we beat cross by 2,
great game giving the terrible weather conditions.. ;D

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 16, 2010, 11:38:48 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 16, 2010, 09:23:06 PM
Draw not kind to Harps but so what, I was at our Minor game tonight when the news came through and I didn't see any disappointed faces, we should be easily motivated.  Cross will obviously be big favourites but (at the risk of giving us the Kiss of death) we always seem to be able to give them a game.  Just hope we get to the game with a full panel to select from.

St Peters beat Harps tonight 2.12 to 2.10 in the minor champ

Not kind at all Benny, but I suspect like you i feel this could be the making of this team, we have run them close a few times over the last 6-7 years but they always seemed to have an extra gear in them. I feel we need big games from the so-called big names but if we can get quick quality ball in we can cause them problems inside. Really looking forward to this now, you gotta beat the best to be the best.

Might surprise a few people from outside the club but I think our sarting line-up will have 5-6 different starters from the county final last year.


Tough luck on the minors, 3 in a row a stretch too far.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: john mcgill on August 17, 2010, 07:18:43 AM
Does anyone know where I can find out the winners of the monthly Friends of Armagh draw?  I haven't seen any prize winners in the papers`recently.  Thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 17, 2010, 09:08:58 AM
its now MY ARMAGH john and there is no longer monthly draws.  Don't think the Harps are going as well as last year and the 2 game salvo against the clans helped. Cross have some pace in their 2 full-forwards clarke and carragher and i think this is the harps weak link but will be interesting. st. pats v maghery will be a close call but maghery will relish the challenge but forker will be a big miss, st. pats by 2. nab v dromintee could provide a shock with the nab full-forward line on fire and dtee struggling with injuries. ogs v granemore will provide a local derby and granemore will undoubtedly raise their game and they have a number of good players. ogs wont take it lightly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on August 17, 2010, 10:40:18 AM
Not a very interesting draw I don't think? For what it's worth my predictions are:

Cross v Harps
Can't see anything other than a convincing Cross victory here. Some Harps lads mentioned that they have ran Cross close over the last few years, lots of teams run Cross close, that's how they play sometimes but they always have another gear. Cross by 5.

Ogs v Granemore
Another mismatch here it seems. Granemore did well last year to shock a faultering Dromintee side but they won't be any match for Ogs on this occasion. The gulf in class between these two sides is much too wide. Ogs by 8.

Cullyhanna v Maghery
I'd be surprised if this game finishes with 15 men against 15 given the track record of the two sides. Cullyhanna are my dark horses for the championship, they're improving all the time. Having seen both teams this year I think Cullyhanna are a much more threatening side, Maghery are weak in several areas of the pitch. Cullyhanna by 4.

Ballymacnab v Dromintee
Everyone will be predicting the shock of the round in this game but the truth is, anyone who knows much about these two teams will know it won't be much of a shock when Ballymacnab beat Dromintee. Nab are flying in Division 2 and will be a match for most Div 1 teams as they've already proven. Dromintee are a spent force that peaked 3 or 4 years ago and are on the way down. Ballymacnab by 2.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 17, 2010, 01:27:08 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 07:53:07 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 06:43:34 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 06:19:29 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 03:32:21 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 16, 2010, 10:09:08 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 16, 2010, 09:25:24 AM
Quote from: Wee Shea on August 16, 2010, 08:34:22 AM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 13, 2010, 05:46:55 PM
Quote from: illdecide on August 12, 2010, 05:24:46 PM
Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 5pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 6pts
Killeavy and the Nab to draw
Cross to beat Cruppin by 10pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 3pts
St Pats to beat Clans by 14pts (thats if i'm selected :P) Clans to win by 2pts if i'm kept on the bench :D

Maghery to beat Clann Eireann by 8pts
Og's to beat Mullaghbawn by 7pts
Killeavy to beat the Nab
Cross to beat Cruppin by 15pts
Granemore to beat Newtown by 8pts
Clans to beat St Pats by 5pts

:D :D :D :D

Some punter!

good lad - what a shock a clann eriann man with too much to say- I see did all the scoring for you muppets- he must have some muppets playing alongside him

u seem sober enough! :D

good one fool- thought you have guessed Henderson- how you getting on with the rioting now- at least you lads will have the time now your seasons over- lake street will be buzzing

Can you not read who you are replying to Stig? You going about too proclaiming how smart you are too, you can't even grasp proper spelling and grammar! Maybe you should stay over in England full time and learn the Queen's English saan, do us all a favour.

No doubt wee shea- i know who I was replaying too- as for being smart -I would say your a real bright spark- I ll be back in Lurgan at the weekend saan- and don't you forget it- ps I apologise for any spelling or grammar errors in advance.

- No capitals on a name
- No commas/full stops
- "Replay" instead of reply
- Space instead of an apostrophe in the word "I'll"

I don't know about being a bright spark but after reading your posts I would say a child could type better than you.

I sense you are angry after that toothless display yesterday, sure if you even cared that much you would have been at the match, not sitting in England saan. Maybe this years B management should step up to the plate, maybe just the B manager though, his assistant didn't have a clue.


  fair points lad ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: john mcgill on August 17, 2010, 02:07:22 PM
Wanderer, thanks for that.  I have a direct debit coming out of my account every month for £25 for the Friends draw.  The County Board are still taking it, as of 2 August, and haven't communicated with me about the change.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on August 17, 2010, 05:08:34 PM
charlie the others may have let you off with your fashion parade on sunday but i'll remember ya  :D especially now i know you post on here!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 17, 2010, 06:38:45 PM
http://www.paddypower.com/bet/gaa-sports/gaa-football/armagh-senior-football-championship?ev_oc_grp_ids=86649

Lump on Cruppen at 20/1.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 17, 2010, 07:37:38 PM
I think the Ogs are good value at 100/30, i've asked them to give me the betting for the all-ireland club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sickboy on August 17, 2010, 09:32:49 PM
looking at those odds think nab have better chance than cruppen ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 17, 2010, 10:00:53 PM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on August 17, 2010, 10:40:18 AM
Not a very interesting draw I don't think? For what it's worth my predictions are:

Cross v Harps
Can't see anything other than a convincing Cross victory here. Some Harps lads mentioned that they have ran Cross close over the last few years, lots of teams run Cross close, that's how they play sometimes but they always have another gear. Cross by 5.

Dont want to get into a whole thing, but the last time we met in the champ we were denied a draw by a dodgy last minute goal line scramble.  And most defintely Cross are not the team they once were - it's pretty much a new team with a good smattering of experience, the physical dimension they once had were they bullied there way to wins sometimes is gone.  Pity we got a bye now, a first round win would have been very beneficial.  I think Cross will try and blow us out of the water in the first 20, if we can hold them we can get a result.  Having said all that they could make me look silly and hammer us.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 17, 2010, 10:31:38 PM
Tac I know you were being sarcastic but I am not convinced that sickboy knows cruppen are actually out lol.

On that note I would say anyone that backs cruppen on pp will get a complete refund
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sickboy on August 18, 2010, 01:35:15 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 17, 2010, 10:31:38 PM
Tac I know you were being sarcastic but I am not convinced that sickboy knows cruppen are actually out lol.

would put cruppen and les bleus at the same odds if it makes you feel better. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 18, 2010, 08:55:04 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 17, 2010, 07:37:38 PM
I think the Ogs are good value at 100/30, i've asked them to give me the betting for the all-ireland club.
dont jinx the ogs real u know ur tipping form. hav to say with the q/f draw i thought cross and ogs odds would have been closer. who do u think harps should play in the full-back line to stop the cross ff line.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on August 18, 2010, 09:32:42 AM
What date have they down for the quarter finals?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 18, 2010, 02:58:35 PM
I would say a blank cheque for ourselves and cruppen would be too skinny ffs after sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 18, 2010, 09:33:44 PM
Harps beat Clann Eireann 2.17 to 12 tonite in Lurgan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 19, 2010, 08:57:43 PM
Arrangements for SFCh quarter finals are

Saturday 4th September
@ 4.00pm
in Cullyhanna--Ballymacnab v Dromintee

@ 6.00pm
in AbbeyPark--Pearse Og v Granemore

Sunday 5th
@ 2.00pm
in Pearse Og Park--St.Patricks v Maghery

@ 6.00pm
in Carrickcruppin--Crossmaglen v Armagh Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on August 20, 2010, 01:28:47 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 19, 2010, 08:57:43 PM
Arrangements for SFCh quarter finals are

Saturday 4th September
@ 4.00pm
in Cullyhanna--Ballymacnab v Dromintee

@ 6.00pm
in AbbeyPark--Pearse Og v Granemore

Sunday 5th
@ 2.00pm
in Pearse Og Park--St.Patricks v Maghery

@ 6.00pm
in Carrickcruppin--Crossmaglen v Armagh Harps

wat a joke could they nt a have fixed them as two double headers, tight enough to get to abbey park for 6 for anyone that wants to go to both games on sat and all Ireland hurling final on the Sunday as well!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 20, 2010, 09:13:43 AM
Quote from: topgun on August 20, 2010, 01:28:47 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 19, 2010, 08:57:43 PM
Arrangements for SFCh quarter finals are

Saturday 4th September
@ 4.00pm
in Cullyhanna--Ballymacnab v Dromintee

@ 6.00pm
in AbbeyPark--Pearse Og v Granemore

Sunday 5th
@ 2.00pm
in Pearse Og Park--St.Patricks v Maghery

@ 6.00pm
in Carrickcruppin--Crossmaglen v Armagh Harps

wat a joke could they nt a have fixed them as two double headers, tight enough to get to abbey park for 6 for anyone that wants to go to both games on sat and all Ireland hurling final on the Sunday as well!!!
if maghery or st pats wanted to put a cat among the pigeons sunday is a closed day for all-ireland hurling and teams can refuse to play. as u say double headers would have been better charging say a £10, the county board would be better off as more would attend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mrgaa1 on August 20, 2010, 03:45:28 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 19, 2010, 08:57:43 PM
Arrangements for SFCh quarter finals are

Saturday 4th September
@ 4.00pm
in Cullyhanna--Ballymacnab v Dromintee

@ 6.00pm
in AbbeyPark--Pearse Og v Granemore

Sunday 5th
@ 2.00pm
in Pearse Og Park--St.Patricks v Maghery

@ 6.00pm
in Carrickcruppin--Crossmaglen v Armagh Harps
Is there not a ruling that states club do not have to play games on All-Ireland final day - no matter if its hurling or football?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 20, 2010, 04:12:40 PM
mrgaa u are totally correct and i heard a whimper that st. pats had a request not to have their match fixed for sunday but where refused. wonder will they apply the rule?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 20, 2010, 04:25:50 PM
clans men a bit of a kick in the teeth in relation to the non funding now available for ur new proposed development. think any club who was lucky to getting the last funding application will be the only ones development major projects for a few years. i have heard a lot of local clubs have put their plans on hold due to funding cut backs. at least yous will have the pitch developed isnt that so.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 22, 2010, 04:06:43 PM



clans beat Mullaghbawn by 3 points there today
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 22, 2010, 04:07:24 PM
tones beat ballyhegan by 5. we played awful first half johnny mckeever threw the ball in the net to get us started. ballyhegan tried rough it up but our boys played football. was disappointed by ballyhagans trying bully boy tactics no6 was a disgrace stamped twice on chris mccarron. big man when man lying on ground. ref lost control. also a quote from a ballyhagan sub was "if hes lying on the ground kick him on the head"no place for thuggery like that in our games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 22, 2010, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 22, 2010, 04:06:43 PM



clans beat Mullaghbawn by 3 points there today

big result for clans.good day for north armagh with sarsfields beating killeavey by the minimum
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on August 22, 2010, 04:17:48 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 22, 2010, 04:08:51 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on August 22, 2010, 04:06:43 PM



clans beat Mullaghbawn by 3 points there today

big result for clans.good day for north armagh with sarsfields beating killeavey by the minimum

Is indeed Charlie- thats Killeavy down and its still tight for the other spot
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 22, 2010, 04:20:15 PM
Ogs beat St Pat's 12-9
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on August 22, 2010, 05:10:48 PM
Culloville beat Maghery
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on August 22, 2010, 05:32:18 PM
Quote from: fan01 on August 22, 2010, 05:10:48 PM
Culloville beat Maghery

Yeah, but what about the football  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardmhaca08 on August 22, 2010, 06:16:58 PM
How'd clann eireann do? Or Keady?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on August 22, 2010, 06:33:53 PM
Nab beat Madden today by 11 points

That is promotion in the bag, 1 point needed from the last 4 games to win the league

granemore had a good win today against Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 22, 2010, 08:29:00 PM
very good win for us today as the team lifted their game to come out convincing winners ,leading  2-4 - 0-5 at ht expected the harps to come out fired up but their main men never came to the fore as we ran out deserved winners 2-10 - 0-8  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on August 22, 2010, 10:07:46 PM
cross won well tonight against dromintee. cross had one of the kernan sent off towards the end of the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: camloughlad on August 22, 2010, 11:00:03 PM
Corrinshego beat clady last nite by 3 points.that's them into the semi final of the championship.has been 20 odd years since they last got that far.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on August 23, 2010, 01:23:41 AM
Quote from: torres on August 22, 2010, 08:29:00 PM
very good win for us today as the team lifted their game to come out convincing winners ,leading  2-4 - 0-5 at ht expected the harps to come out fired up but their main men never came to the fore as we ran out deserved winners 2-10 - 0-8  :)

Harps are shite!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 23, 2010, 03:34:59 AM
a truely elegant drunken post if i ever saw one, and i will not retaliate with a drunken reply u pig
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 23, 2010, 07:40:58 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 23, 2010, 03:34:59 AM
a truely elegant drunken post if i ever saw one, and i will not retaliate with a drunken reply u pig

I take it you were at the birthday party lock in then Spirit
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on August 23, 2010, 10:16:13 AM
Quote from: ogshead on August 23, 2010, 01:23:41 AM
Quote from: torres on August 22, 2010, 08:29:00 PM
very good win for us today as the team lifted their game to come out convincing winners ,leading  2-4 - 0-5 at ht expected the harps to come out fired up but their main men never came to the fore as we ran out deserved winners 2-10 - 0-8  :)

Harps are shite!!

Hahaha, drunken post alright  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on August 23, 2010, 11:07:53 AM
Whats state of play is the 1st division these days. Assuming Crossmaglen have won the league what way is the bottom and who will probably be relegated.

Has anyone any league tables?

Talking to a Ballymacnab man yesterday and he told me the Nab are almost promoted so who is in pole position to join them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on August 23, 2010, 12:57:05 PM
Quote from: fan01 on August 22, 2010, 10:07:46 PM
cross won well tonight against dromintee. cross had one of the kernan sent off towards the end of the game.

paul kernan it was..straight forward decision by ref to send him off - elbow in the face
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 23, 2010, 01:19:54 PM
was at the ogs match yesterday and once again witnessed the ugly side of mc keever. he spent most of the game throwing cheap shots and eventually split davo open. the referee leonard didnt stamp his authority on the game and really should have issued a 2nd card to mc keever. good result for the ogs considering the amount of changes with barton, d d, marc cullen, andy, anto,j j, ronan not playing. big win for granemore which will raise their hopes for the championship match.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on August 23, 2010, 01:49:05 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 23, 2010, 01:19:54 PM
was at the ogs match yesterday and once again witnessed the ugly side of mc keever. he spent most of the game throwing cheap shots and eventually split davo open. the referee leonard didnt stamp his authority on the game and really should have issued a 2nd card to mc keever. good result for the ogs considering the amount of changes with barton, d d, marc cullen, andy, anto,j j, ronan not playing. big win for granemore which will raise their hopes for the championship match.

granemore game a good result for us aswell wanderer..knock any complacency out of the boys after seeing that scoreline!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on August 23, 2010, 02:18:01 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 23, 2010, 01:19:54 PM
was at the ogs match yesterday and once again witnessed the ugly side of mc keever. he spent most of the game throwing cheap shots and eventually split davo open. the referee leonard didnt stamp his authority on the game and really should have issued a 2nd card to mc keever. good result for the ogs considering the amount of changes with barton, d d, marc cullen, andy, anto,j j, ronan not playing. big win for granemore which will raise their hopes for the championship match.

Why do people let McKeever do this to them? why not belt him back and give him something to think about, he's average size and build what is it that most people fear from him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 23, 2010, 04:11:46 PM
Quote from: pearseog on August 23, 2010, 01:49:05 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 23, 2010, 01:19:54 PM
was at the ogs match yesterday and once again witnessed the ugly side of mc keever. he spent most of the game throwing cheap shots and eventually split davo open. the referee leonard didnt stamp his authority on the game and really should have issued a 2nd card to mc keever. good result for the ogs considering the amount of changes with barton, d d, marc cullen, andy, anto,j j, ronan not playing. big win for granemore which will raise their hopes for the championship match.

granemore game a good result for us aswell wanderer..knock any complacency out of the boys after seeing that scoreline!
agree fully and with the match at abbey park were we havent played for about 4 years unlike granemore it will be tight especially with such a narrow pitch.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 23, 2010, 09:46:59 PM
Armagh ACL Tables as at Sunday 22 August 2010

Division I
Team P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 17 16 0 1 32
Maghery 19 9 4 6 22
Pearse Og 17 9 2 6 20
Carrickcruppen 15 9 1 5 19
Culloville 16 9 0 7 18
St Patrick's 18 7 3 8 17
Dromintee 16 7 1 8 15
Clan na Gael 17 7 0 9 14
Sarsfields 17 6 1 10 13
Whitecross 15 6 0 9 12
Mullaghbawn 19 6 0 13 12
Killeavy 18 4 2 12 10

Division II
Team P W D L Pts
Ballymacnab 18 16 1 1 33
Armagh Harps 18 12 1 5 25
Granemore 18 12 1 5 25
Wolfe Tone 16 9 1 6 19
Tir na nÓg 17 7 3 7 17
Silverbridge 16 7 2 7 16
Clann Eireann 17 7 1 9 15
Madden 18 7 0 11 14
St Michael's 17 6 1 10 13
Ballyhegan 18 5 2 11 12
Keady 15 5 1 9 11
St Peter's 16 2 0 14 4

Division III
Team P W D L Pts
*Shane O'Neill's 18 15 0 2 32
Tullysaran 18 13 1 4 27
Middletown 17 10 1 6 21
Annaghmore 18 10 0 8 20
St Paul's 16 8 2 6 18
Collegeland 19 8 1 10 17
Forkhill 19 8 0 11 16
Eire Og 16 5 4 7 14
Belleek 18 5 2 11 12
Clonmore 18 5 2 11 12
Lissummon 18 4 4 10 12
An Port Mor 17 4 3 10 11
*Promoted (Shane O'Neill's)

Division IV
Team P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen II 18 17 1 0 35
Grange 18 14 1 3 29
Killeavy II 19 14 1 4 29
Derrynoose 18 13 1 4 27
Dorsey Emmett's 18 13 1 5 27
St Patrick's II 18 10 1 7 21
Corrinshego 18 5 2 11 12
Killean 18 4 4 10 12
O'Hanlon's 19 4 3 12 11
Clady 18 4 2 12 10
Mullabrack 18 1 1 16 3
Phelim Brady's 18 1 0 17 2

Taken from http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/armagh-acl-tables-sunday-22-august-2010-a-692/#post10862
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on August 24, 2010, 02:43:18 PM
Seen the odd earlier for the SFC in Bar One.

Ballymacnab 2/1  4/9 Dromintee

Ogs 1/4  10/3 Granemore

Cullyhanna 5/6  11/10 Maghery

Cross 1/7  9/2 Harps

Cant mind what odds for draw was, but 7/1 prob
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on August 24, 2010, 03:50:44 PM
A Ballymacnab Cullyhanna double looks like a good value bet on those odds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 24, 2010, 05:19:40 PM
Think Ballymacnab are a cracking bet Mackers but i would side with Maghery. think they will have too much pace for Cullyhanna in what could turn into a ugly game.

So Ballymacnab @2/1 and Maghery @11/10. So it will probably be a win for Ballymacnab and a draw in the maghery game just to ride both of us. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on August 24, 2010, 08:44:20 PM
st pats are buying money,,without the forkers their an average side.. :)
would fancy nab ,,cannot believe the odds they are to beat d,tee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 25, 2010, 12:04:20 AM
St Pat's are only an average team aswell which gives Maghery a great chance Forkers or not
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on August 25, 2010, 12:15:28 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 25, 2010, 12:04:20 AM
St Pat's are only an average team aswell which gives Maghery a great chance Forkers or not
suppose your right,,just got a bit exited.lol

should be a few heavy hits in that particular game,hope paudie hughes doesnt get the task. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 25, 2010, 01:55:37 AM
I agree with you it has the makings of the game of the round so a cool balanced head is required in the middle
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on August 25, 2010, 08:19:29 AM
So that rules Paudie out! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on August 25, 2010, 08:35:38 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 25, 2010, 12:04:20 AM
St Pat's are only an average team aswell which gives Maghery a great chance Forkers or not

What does that say about you lot if they are an average team and they destroyed you in all areas on the pitch last week?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on August 25, 2010, 10:02:27 AM
It is with great saddness that I report that Armagh great Jack Bratton last night passed away after a recent illness.  Jack was an iconic Armagh figure and will be greatly missed by all those associated with Armagh GAA.  Deepest sympathies are extended to the Bratton family
RIP Jack
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on August 25, 2010, 01:00:28 PM
Lads, some serious money to be made with those odds on the Championship next weekend. I'll be going for an accumulator of:

Ballymacnab to beat Dromintee 2/1
Ogs to beat Granemore 1/4 
Cullyhanna to beat Maghery 5/6
Cross to beat Harps 1/7

£20 will get you £157 back.

The only one that I'd be slightly worried about would be Cullyhanna and Maghery, I think it'll be tight but I'm more than confident Cullyhanna will be far too strong for them. Bookies are mad with Ballymacnab at 2/1! Can't see them staying at that, I'll be lumping on that as well, I think it's worth at least £50 anyway.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on August 25, 2010, 01:30:23 PM
who won the cruppen/whitecross game last night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 25, 2010, 02:27:16 PM
You see shea here lies the problem with some posters. When a persons makes a statement about one team then a few other posters think it is then their duty to immediately compare the aformentioned teams with current or past state of the posters club team.

Myself and Just retired were debating the Maghery and Cullyhanna game and we had a difference of opinion. I still think at the slightly better price in a tight game maghery are worth the risk. Your are now attempting to start another debate that has already been debated about 7 pages back ie the clans versus Cullyhanna. I have no problem with this argument as i have already stated the clans were brutal. But this school boy finger pointing in really stupid. Constantsly refering to a club no matter what the subject at hand can at times get a wee bit annoying.


On another more serious note i would like to extend my heartfelt sympathy to the Skelton family and particularly Geard who manages the clans, who are now mourning the sad lose of a mother . May God rest her soul.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on August 25, 2010, 04:43:49 PM
Quote from: centrefield on August 23, 2010, 12:57:05 PM
Quote from: fan01 on August 22, 2010, 10:07:46 PM
cross won well tonight against dromintee. cross had one of the kernan sent off towards the end of the game.

paul kernan it was..straight forward decision by ref to send him off - elbow in the face

heard that this has been reduced to 2 yellows.. how are cross always able to get away with stuff like this!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 25, 2010, 04:52:31 PM
Seen this happening in friendly games where the ref has just put it down as two yellows but never through official league channels. Perhaps this was an appeal?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 25, 2010, 09:40:03 PM
Quote from: flog the lot on August 25, 2010, 04:43:49 PM
Quote from: centrefield on August 23, 2010, 12:57:05 PM
Quote from: fan01 on August 22, 2010, 10:07:46 PM
cross won well tonight against dromintee. cross had one of the kernan sent off towards the end of the game.

paul kernan it was..straight forward decision by ref to send him off - elbow in the face

heard that this has been reduced to 2 yellows.. how are cross always able to get away with stuff like this!

It shouldn't have even been a yellow. Kernan got the ball stood his ground and yer man clattered in to him and went down as if he had been shot.

By the way when did Cross last get away with stuff like this as you put it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 25, 2010, 10:38:40 PM
Crossfire i wasn't at it so couldn't possibly comment on the incident but did Kernan receive a red on the day for two yellows and later have it rescinded by appeal or what was the story?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on August 25, 2010, 11:04:20 PM

Straight red and can't see there being any way out of it for cross. wasn't at the game but the "dromintee view" on it has been unanimously that it was a filthy challenge
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 26, 2010, 09:21:07 AM
it would seem strange that cross would try after the match to get the referee to change the straight to a second yellow especially with it going to get mentioned to a lot of clubs. think the ccc will have a field day if this has happened. but as said cant see cross doing that ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on August 26, 2010, 10:03:03 AM
Several Cross people told me after the game that Paul Kernan had gotten a straight red although they obviously disputed whether it was warrented or not. According to them it wasn't that dirty, I didn't see it I'm sure some Dromintee lads will put the other case forward. Nonetheless, warrented or not it was definitely a straight red, P Kernan had not received a yellow before the incident so there can be no confusion.

Obviously Cross have pressured the referee into changing this, what are the impications of this for Cross' upcoming championship match? I assume P Kernan should have been suspended for the Harps game and now will be allowed to play? Are there any Harps posters on here raging with this, surely they have grounds to put forward some sort of complaint? I'd be seething.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on August 26, 2010, 10:30:15 AM
To be honest, whats the point in complaining, it will go no where... County board is a joke. Hopefully the Harps team that I know can play decent ball turn up and dump them out.

on that note, its all gone very very quiet about that incident involving the young fella getting his jaw broke a number of months back. Did any sanctions ever happen??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 26, 2010, 11:00:09 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 25, 2010, 10:38:40 PM
Crossfire i wasn't at it so couldn't possibly comment on the incident but did Kernan receive a red on the day for two yellows and later have it rescinded by appeal or what was the story?

WSS. He got a straight red.
I did not hear anything locally about it being reduced other than what has been said on here, so i can't comment on that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 26, 2010, 11:03:46 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on August 25, 2010, 11:04:20 PM

Straight red and can't see there being any way out of it for cross. wasn't at the game but the "dromintee view" on it has been unanimously that it was a filthy challenge


What was the "dromintee view" on the challenge by Vincy Martin on one of our players earlier in the game which went unpunished.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on August 26, 2010, 11:25:05 AM
Quote from: BerfArmagh on August 26, 2010, 10:30:15 AM
To be honest, whats the point in complaining, it will go no where... County board is a joke. Hopefully the Harps team that I know can play decent ball turn up and dump them out.

on that note, its all gone very very quiet about that incident involving the young fella getting his jaw broke a number of months back. Did any sanctions ever happen??

The lad from Culloville recieved a 48 week ban and that was the end of it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on August 26, 2010, 11:36:19 AM
any 1 know were we could get a bet on for this weekends ifc semi final matches???? ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 26, 2010, 03:16:18 PM
Fair enough crossfire

On the incident with young nugent a 48 weeks ban is a joke for such an act of thuggery. Anyone know how that young lad is getting on?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 26, 2010, 04:12:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 26, 2010, 03:16:18 PM
Fair enough crossfire

On the incident with young nugent a 48 weeks ban is a joke for such an act of thuggery. Anyone know how that young lad is getting on?

Is that not the maximum ban?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on August 26, 2010, 04:21:55 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 26, 2010, 11:03:46 AM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on August 25, 2010, 11:04:20 PM

Straight red and can't see there being any way out of it for cross. wasn't at the game but the "dromintee view" on it has been unanimously that it was a filthy challenge


What was the "dromintee view" on the challenge by Vincy Martin on one of our players earlier in the game which went unpunished.?

He was issued a yellow card for that incident.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 26, 2010, 04:22:44 PM
Could well be el . There are lads that sustain serious injuries and miss more than that, I would say young Nugent will miss more than that.  If it is the case that 48 weeks is the maximum ban then this severely needs looked at.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 26, 2010, 04:23:47 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 26, 2010, 03:16:18 PM
Fair enough crossfire

On the incident with young nugent a 48 weeks ban is a joke for such an act of thuggery. Anyone know how that young lad is getting on?

He played against Culloville last weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 26, 2010, 04:30:54 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 26, 2010, 04:22:44 PM
Could well be el . There are lads that sustain serious injuries and miss more than that, I would say young Nugent will miss more than that.  If it is the case that 48 weeks is the maximum ban then this severely needs looked at.

I think that's what quantifies a "lifetime ban".
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on August 26, 2010, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 26, 2010, 04:30:54 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 26, 2010, 04:22:44 PM
Could well be el . There are lads that sustain serious injuries and miss more than that, I would say young Nugent will miss more than that.  If it is the case that 48 weeks is the maximum ban then this severely needs looked at.

I think that's what quantifies a "lifetime ban".

No Shane Genusi got a 96 week ban 4 years ago(approx). don't know if it goes any higher than that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on August 26, 2010, 07:10:31 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 26, 2010, 03:16:18 PM
Fair enough crossfire

On the incident with young nugent a 48 weeks ban is a joke for such an act of thuggery. Anyone know how that young lad is getting on?
yes keano has got the all clear thankfully and being the lad he is was back training straight away and started the championship game with clann eireann,took a hefty knock 1st 5 mins and bounced back up again and hasnt looked back since. he then played up in cullaville and was maybe the best player we had on the day with both teams just going through the motions before the championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on August 26, 2010, 09:45:26 PM
Glad to hear that thought thatlad would have been out for far longer
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on August 27, 2010, 02:30:33 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 26, 2010, 04:30:54 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 26, 2010, 04:22:44 PM
Could well be el . There are lads that sustain serious injuries and miss more than that, I would say young Nugent will miss more than that.  If it is the case that 48 weeks is the maximum ban then this severely needs looked at.

I think that's what quantifies a "lifetime ban".
48 weeks is not the term of life ban. maybe wishfull thinking el u something bad planned.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 27, 2010, 03:47:59 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on August 27, 2010, 02:30:33 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on August 26, 2010, 04:30:54 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on August 26, 2010, 04:22:44 PM
Could well be el . There are lads that sustain serious injuries and miss more than that, I would say young Nugent will miss more than that.  If it is the case that 48 weeks is the maximum ban then this severely needs looked at.

I think that's what quantifies a "lifetime ban".
48 weeks is not the term of life ban. maybe wishfull thinking el u something bad planned.

I'd say that would definitely retire me
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 27, 2010, 09:37:53 PM
Harps beat Wolfe Tones by 4 tonight at Eire Og's pitch.  You'll be hard pushed to find a worse game this year.  Thought WT's had sneaked a draw at the end but Hearty gave a square ball and we went up and got another point, if we had've lost/drew it would have been hard to take, we missed enough chances in the first half to win 2 games.  Awful lot of things going to have to come right in one week if we are to give Cross a game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 28, 2010, 10:08:48 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 27, 2010, 09:37:53 PM
Harps beat Wolfe Tones by 4 tonight at Eire Og's pitch.  You'll be hard pushed to find a worse game this year.  Thought WT's had sneaked a draw at the end but Hearty gave a square ball and we went up and got another point, if we had've lost/drew it would have been hard to take, we missed enough chances in the first half to win 2 games.  Awful lot of things going to have to come right in one week if we are to give Cross a game.

agree benny we didnt turn up first 20 mins esp.  sat back and admired the harps gave a bit of fist of it in 2nd half.  there appears be mental block with some of our players and results show that ie havent beat a team above them this year. we have played some excellent stuff this year believe it or not, but none of it at eire og.  pitch awful doesnt help, i havent saw a good game there all year tbh.  dont no if it was a square ball or not we deserved nothing though so would have been cruel on harps.  think ur umpire gave the squareball and hearty backed up the decision. all the best for the remainder of the league and with next weeks game.  could be silmiliar scenario to last year in div 2..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on August 28, 2010, 08:05:28 PM
Culloville Sarsfields intermediate final.

From what I hear the Peters were seven points up against Culloville but ended up getting bate by six.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardchieftain on August 29, 2010, 01:52:07 AM
So, division 1 teams contest the final, hardly a surprise. And before anyone cites last year,  iwould put that down as a freak result.
Should division 1 teams not be playing senior ?
I know this was debated on orchard county but no majority consensus was reached if memory serves me correctly.

Anyway, after great deliberation i have decided to cheer for an Armagh legend tomorrow against the Ulster team. Come on Geezer's boys !!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 29, 2010, 11:16:01 AM
Quote from: ardchieftain on August 29, 2010, 01:52:07 AM
So, division 1 teams contest the final, hardly a surprise. And before anyone cites last year,  iwould put that down as a freak result.
Should division 1 teams not be playing senior ?
I know this was debated on orchard county but no majority consensus was reached if memory serves me correctly.

Anyway, after great deliberation i have decided to cheer for an Armagh legend tomorrow against the Ulster team. Come on Geezer's boys !!

Undoubtedly yes, they should but there doesn't seem to be the appetite for a radical overhaul of the current flawed system.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on August 29, 2010, 12:14:19 PM
Quote from: ardchieftain on August 29, 2010, 01:52:07 AM
So, division 1 teams contest the final, hardly a surprise. And before anyone cites last year,  iwould put that down as a freak result.
Should division 1 teams not be playing senior ?
I know this was debated on orchard county but no majority consensus was reached if memory serves me correctly.

Anyway, after great deliberation i have decided to cheer for an Armagh legend tomorrow against the Ulster team. Come on Geezer's boys !!

the system down football has in place a good one imo.all div 1 plus top 4 in div 2 senior championship.chana should never been in intermediate 2 or 3 years ao won it at a canter and should won ulster imo, but maybe shows poor standard across our own county that didnt.cullaville also dropped down after being beat by clans in replay which think was bit of farce!hope they dont choke again though!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 29, 2010, 01:20:30 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on August 29, 2010, 12:14:19 PM
Quote from: ardchieftain on August 29, 2010, 01:52:07 AM
So, division 1 teams contest the final, hardly a surprise. And before anyone cites last year,  iwould put that down as a freak result.
Should division 1 teams not be playing senior ?
I know this was debated on orchard county but no majority consensus was reached if memory serves me correctly.

Anyway, after great deliberation i have decided to cheer for an Armagh legend tomorrow against the Ulster team. Come on Geezer's boys !!

the system down football has in place a good one imo.all div 1 plus top 4 in div 2 senior championship.chana should never been in intermediate 2 or 3 years ao won it at a canter and should won ulster imo, but maybe shows poor standard across our own county that didnt.cullaville also dropped down after being beat by clans in replay which think was bit of farce!hope they dont choke again though!

To be fair we failed to win the intermediate 3 times prior to 2008 so we couldn't have been that far ahead. Albeit I admit that a team finished 3rd in division 1 and winning an intermediate championship is a bit of a farce. Culloville have been trying unsuccessfully to win the championship for quite a few years as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on August 29, 2010, 06:36:24 PM
granemore deservenly bt ballymacnab by 2 pts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 29, 2010, 08:16:35 PM
ACL Division 1: St Patrick's 3-11 Clan na Gael 2-8

Only a fortnight after their championship clash, St Pat's and Clan na Gael met for the 3rd time this season at St Patrick's Park on a blustery Sunday afternoon. After suffering two heavy defeats in the previous fixtures, the Lurgan men will have been keen to make amends and started the match the brighter, taking the lead with an early free. After 5 minutes a brilliant Liam O'Hare crossfield pass found Eugene Casey in space and Casey made no mistake in tucking the ball into the net. Two scores from Liam O'Hare and the returning Kieran Hoey put St Pat's further in front as they began to dominate affairs despite facing into a stiff breeze. A free from Shane McKeever made it 1-3 to 0-1 before 3 Clans points, 2 from frees reduced the deficit. A perfectly placed Ciaran McKeever pass found Shane McKeever who tapped over another point. Two late points from the Lurgan men left the score at halftime St Pat's 1-5 Clan na Gael 0-6.

The second period began with the sides exchanging pointed frees before Clan na Gael had a gilt edged opportunity to take the lead when atrocious defending put a Clans attacker clean through on goal. A major score seemed certain but a superb diving block from Brendan Savage kept the Cullyhanna goal intact. Shane McKeever then added another point before an excellent team move involving Robbie Tasker and Niall McShane resulted in Liam O'Hare kicking a point. The game reached a turning point soon after when a direct ball in was gathered by Shane McKeever and transferred to Kieran Hoey who rounded the goalkepper and finished to the net to put St Pat's seven in front. Two further points from Liam O'Hare and Eugene Casey stretched the advantage before Robbie Tasker put the match beyond Clans' reach when he seized upon a defensive slip before finishing to the net in impudent style. Twelve points clear, the game was over to all intents and purposes however the St Pat's management will still have been disappointed with the lax defensive play which allowed Clans to score 2-1 late in the game. A Robbie Tasker point ensured that the Lurgan revival had little more than a cosmetic effect on the scoreline as St Pat's ran out deserved winners on a scoreline of 3-11 to 2-8.

While this was a decent victory which makes division 1 football next season a mathematical certainty, it must be said that the football on display was of a far from vintage quality as the game was characterised by a lot of handling errors and elementary mistakes. No doubt huge improvement will be needed by the time St Pat's face Maghery in the quarter final of the Senior Championship.

ACL Division 4: St Patrick's II v Corrinshego

The Seconds side travelled to Corrinshego on Saturday evening and competed well in the first half, going in level at 0-6 a piece at half-time. However, home advantage began to tell in the second half as Corrinshego dominated affairs and ran out winners by a few points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on August 30, 2010, 02:31:12 PM
not as much hype about cuchullianns this year as in recent years but they delivered the goods yesterday..well done lads
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on August 30, 2010, 03:47:29 PM
Quote from: pearseog on August 30, 2010, 02:31:12 PM
not as much hype about cuchullianns this year as in recent years but they delivered the goods yesterday..well done lads

Great result for us yesterday, good to see us back in a final - would be even better to see us beat our 'friends'.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 30, 2010, 08:31:11 PM
Armagh ACL Tables as at Sunday 29 August 2010

Division I
Team P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 18 17 0 1 34 (Champions)
Maghery 19 9 4 6 22
Pearse Og 18 9 2 7 20
Carrickcruppen 16 9 1 6 19
St Patrick's 19 8 3 8 19
Culloville 16 9 0 7 18
Dromintee 17 8 1 8 17
Whitecross 17 7 0 10 14
Clan na Gael 18 7 0 10 14
Sarsfields 17 6 1 10 13
Mullaghbawn 19 6 0 13 12
Killeavy 18 4 2 12 10

Division II
Team P W D L Pts
Ballymacnab 19 16 1 2 33
Armagh Harps 19 13 1 5 27
Granemore 19 13 1 5 27
Wolfe Tone 17 9 1 7 19
Tir na nÓg 18 8 3 7 19
Silverbridge 16 7 2 7 16
Clann Eireann 18 7 2 9 16
Madden 19 7 1 11 15
St Michael's 17 6 1 10 13
Ballyhegan 19 5 2 12 12
Keady 15 5 1 9 11
St Peter's 16 2 0 14 4

Division III
Team P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 19 16 0 2 34 (Promoted)
Tullysaran 18 13 1 4 27
Middletown 17 10 1 6 21
Annaghmore 18 10 0 8 20
St Paul's 16 8 2 6 18
Collegeland 20 8 1 11 17
Forkhill 19 8 0 11 16
Eire Og 17 5 4 8 14
An Port Mor 18 5 3 10 13
Belleek 18 5 2 11 12
Clonmore 18 5 2 11 12
Lissummon 18 4 4 10 12

Division IV
Team P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen II 19 18 1 0 37 (Promoted)
Grange 19 15 1 3 31
Dorsey Emmett's 19 14 1 5 29
Killeavy II 19 14 1 4 29
Derrynoose 18 13 1 4 27
St Patrick's II 19 10 1 8 21
Corrinshego 19 6 2 11 14
Clady 19 5 2 12 12
Killean 19 4 4 11 12
O'Hanlon's 20 4 3 13 11
Mullabrack 19 1 1 17 3
Phelim Brady's 19 1 0 18 2

http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/armagh-acl-tables-sunday-29-august-2010-a-709/

Armagh Club Fixtures for w/e Sunday 5 September 2010

Wednesday 1 September
ACL – Div. III (7.00)
An Port Mor v Middletown (Noel Martin)

Saturday 4 September
Senior Football Championship – Semi-finals
Ballymacnab v Dromintee (Rory Robinson) at Cullyhanna (4.00)
Granemore v Pearse (Ronan Quigley) at Abbey Park (6.00)

Sunday 5 September
Senior Football Championship – Semi-final
Crossmaglen v Armagh Harps (Kevin McNeice) at Carrickcruppen (6.00)
ACL – Div. II (12.00)
Tir na nÓg v Wolfe Tone (Oliver Hearty)




That's a nice wee scrap between The Harps and Granemore for promotion
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 31, 2010, 09:31:01 PM
Fierce quiet on here right in the middle of c'ship season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on August 31, 2010, 09:33:01 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 31, 2010, 09:31:01 PM
Fierce quiet on here right in the middle of c'ship season

Some win at the weekend for the hurlers spirit... were you up at it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 31, 2010, 10:03:05 PM
Are St Pats and Maghery not playing on sunday as well.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 31, 2010, 10:07:45 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 31, 2010, 10:03:05 PM
Are St Pats and Maghery not playing on sunday as well.?

No it's been moved to the following week because of the hurling
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 31, 2010, 10:25:27 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 31, 2010, 10:03:05 PM
Are St Pats and Maghery not playing on sunday as well.?

Actually missed it which im a bit ashamed by, but a man's gotta work when there's no-one else to do it.

Quote from: crossfire on August 31, 2010, 10:03:05 PM
Are St Pats and Maghery not playing on sunday as well.?

explain! Double header?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: oman on August 31, 2010, 10:35:23 PM
Any match reports from the hurling.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on September 01, 2010, 08:09:21 AM
Ref the St.Pat`s  Maghery game, All Ireland hurling and football final days are closed dates, and clubs cannot be compelled to play on these dates.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on September 01, 2010, 09:09:25 AM
Quote from: oman on August 31, 2010, 10:35:23 PM
Any match reports from the hurling.

the match itself wasnt all blood and thunder as previous occasions between the two teams had been, middletown had a strong first half and went in 2points up they got a free handy frees from which Gaffney duly obliged. The Cuchullainns arrived out on to the field a few minutes after the whistle had gone for the 2nd half so whatever was said in the changing rooms certainly worked a treat. The likes of Clifford, Barton, Toner, Coulter, McKernan and both Duffy's put in a huge amount of work. The goal came from a high ball in that dropped right into the square a bit of confusion between the Middletown players and a CHC fella got a flick on the ball (not sure who it was) from there the Cuchullainns never looked back and  won by two points. Great result.

Heard the final is pencilled in for 12th Sept in Cross - god knows why they've two Mid-Armagh teams going Cross, surely middletown or even Pearse Og Park woulda have been better (best playing surface in the county) and Keady have already beat the Cuchullainns @ Pearse Og Park over previous years, so home advantage in this instance doesn't count for much
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nrico2006 on September 01, 2010, 09:14:03 AM
What was the scores in the hurling semis?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 01, 2010, 09:16:17 AM
think maghery where happy to get it moved to try and have forkers available for the q/f which the new date would allow. however they forgot about the fact that a player must serve a one game suspension in the particular competition they where sent off in which will rule them out of the st pats game. harps/cross game still going ahead on hurling final day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 01, 2010, 09:20:55 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 01, 2010, 09:14:03 AM
What was the scores in the hurling semis?
think the score was 1/10 to 1/8 however worringly for the cuchulains is that they only scored 1 point from play. but im sure their not too concerned at this stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 01, 2010, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 01, 2010, 09:16:17 AM
think maghery where happy to get it moved to try and have forkers available for the q/f which the new date would allow. however they forgot about the fact that a player must serve a one game suspension in the particular competition they where sent off in which will rule them out of the st pats game. harps/cross game still going ahead on hurling final day.

only 1 of the forkers are missing the game against us as i heard last nite the ref put 1 of the sendings of down as 2 yellows..sumthing similar to the kernan incident with cross recently..
the way armagh football isrun in general is a joke..y has there been no b league games since maybe 8weeks????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nrico2006 on September 01, 2010, 10:50:07 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 01, 2010, 09:20:55 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 01, 2010, 09:14:03 AM
What was the scores in the hurling semis?
think the score was 1/10 to 1/8 however worringly for the cuchulains is that they only scored 1 point from play. but im sure their not too concerned at this stage.

What was the score in the other match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on September 01, 2010, 11:28:16 AM
Quote from: 1life 1club on September 01, 2010, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 01, 2010, 09:16:17 AM
think maghery where happy to get it moved to try and have forkers available for the q/f which the new date would allow. however they forgot about the fact that a player must serve a one game suspension in the particular competition they where sent off in which will rule them out of the st pats game. harps/cross game still going ahead on hurling final day.

only 1 of the forkers are missing the game against us as i heard last nite the ref put 1 of the sendings of down as 2 yellows..sumthing similar to the kernan incident with cross recently..
the way armagh football isrun in general is a joke..y has there been no b league games since maybe 8weeks????

Hardly surprising at all, the ref's in Armagh need to grow a set of testicles. i heard the only four teams definitely through to the knockout stages of the B Leagues are Dromintee, Armagh Harps, Pearse Og's and Clan na Gael with another four places still to be decided.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 01, 2010, 01:35:29 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on September 01, 2010, 11:28:16 AM
Quote from: 1life 1club on September 01, 2010, 10:30:15 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 01, 2010, 09:16:17 AM
think maghery where happy to get it moved to try and have forkers available for the q/f which the new date would allow. however they forgot about the fact that a player must serve a one game suspension in the particular competition they where sent off in which will rule them out of the st pats game. harps/cross game still going ahead on hurling final day.

only 1 of the forkers are missing the game against us as i heard last nite the ref put 1 of the sendings of down as 2 yellows..sumthing similar to the kernan incident with cross recently..
the way armagh football isrun in general is a joke..y has there been no b league games since maybe 8weeks????

Hardly surprising at all, the ref's in Armagh need to grow a set of testicles. i heard the only four teams definitely through to the knockout stages of the B Leagues are Dromintee, Armagh Harps, Pearse Og's and Clan na Gael with another four places still to be decided.



really annoying too..coz only a miracle from what ive been told will prevent us and clans playing in the quarters and we are just waiting on other teams. Our section was very well run though might i add. We had all our games completed by the start of july.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 01, 2010, 03:45:22 PM
dont know why paul kernan is being discussed as he is currently serving his suspension, as was seen on sunday nite v ogs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on September 01, 2010, 03:54:50 PM
Both Maghery players were sent off with straight reds. The Maghery club are well aware neither of them can play in the next c/ship game. It was not put off for that reason We do not ask or do we expect favours from ref`s in the case of sendings off. If you do the crime etc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on September 01, 2010, 06:48:46 PM
21/10 Nab 15/2 Dromintee 4/9
7/2 Granemore 9/1 Pearse Ogs 2/9
1/10 Cross 14/1 Harps 5/1

Paddy Power must not know there is another match on
Title: Bredagh Talks Sam and Down
Post by: bredaghgael on September 01, 2010, 07:02:11 PM
 This years event will take place in the Wellington Park Hotel, Belfast, on Thursday 16th Sept.

Confirmed guests: 

Mickey Harte - Manager of Tyrone when they won all 3 of their All Irelands

Mick O'Dwyer - 4 All Irelands as a player, 8 as a manager.

Joe Brolly -  RTE TV pundit, 2 time All Star & All Ireland winner with Derry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKYycF8xb_c

We are still in negotiations with a number of other guests and their agents/Wags.  Names will be released in the next couple of days.

MC for the evening will be Jerome Quinn (well know GAA journalist).

Admission - £10 BY TICKET ONLY which gets you into a draw for All Ireland Final tickets.

Doors open at 8.15pm with a 8.30pm start - get there early as numbers are limited due to fire regulations, the common agricultural policy or some such thing.

The event is sponsored by First Trust Bank
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 01, 2010, 07:20:12 PM
 ::) This sort of shit does my head in.  Does it really have to be posted in 7 different places?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 01, 2010, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: flog the lot on August 25, 2010, 04:43:49 PM
Quote from: centrefield on August 23, 2010, 12:57:05 PM
Quote from: fan01 on August 22, 2010, 10:07:46 PM
cross won well tonight against dromintee. cross had one of the kernan sent off towards the end of the game.

paul kernan it was..straight forward decision by ref to send him off - elbow in the face

heard that this has been reduced to 2 yellows.. how are cross always able to get away with stuff like this!

I have just looked at some of your previous posts and discovered that you are from Cullyhanna....oh my god. :o
The irony of a balloon from Cullyhanna complaining about the leniency of the punishment for an alledged transgression ???

How many of your players got suspended following the affray against the Bridge 3 or 4 years ago in the intermediate championship.? ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 01, 2010, 09:55:04 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on September 01, 2010, 06:48:46 PM
21/10 Nab 15/2 Dromintee 4/9
7/2 Granemore 9/1 Pearse Ogs 2/9
1/10 Cross 14/1 Harps 5/1

Paddy Power must not know there is another match on
the st pats maghery match isnt on for 2 weeks,,the odds will be back up a week b4 that match id say,,bar one have the best odds for gaa matches anyways..try them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 01, 2010, 10:15:51 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 01, 2010, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: flog the lot on August 25, 2010, 04:43:49 PM
Quote from: centrefield on August 23, 2010, 12:57:05 PM
Quote from: fan01 on August 22, 2010, 10:07:46 PM
cross won well tonight against dromintee. cross had one of the kernan sent off towards the end of the game.

paul kernan it was..straight forward decision by ref to send him off - elbow in the face

heard that this has been reduced to 2 yellows.. how are cross always able to get away with stuff like this!

I have just looked at some of your previous posts and discovered that you are from Cullyhanna....Oh my god. :o
The irony of a balloon from Cullyhanna complaining about the leniency of a punishment for an alledged transgression ???

How many of your players got suspended following the affray against the Bridge 3 or 4 years ago in the intermediate championship.? ::)
taking up sumthing that happened in 2005?? pety if u ask me..lol.
we had 1 lad sent that day long before the affray as u put it..he served his suspension..


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 01, 2010, 10:26:46 PM
Paul Kernan will be serving his ban from what I've heard (much to my suprise I must say).

If PK is absent that would be a significant boost for us as i would imagine Francie will head back to FB, 2 years ago in the semi in the Athletic Grounds he was cleaned by Beefer and K Kelly and a different ref could have lined him for his persistent fouling.  Cross are obviously huge favourites but we can give them a game;  we've played games this year were we've been fantastic for 15 or 20 mins and then played woeful for the rest of the game, if we can play well and maintain that over the hour we have a slim chance - if Cross get a good start we could be screwed.

At the minute I still think  the champ is the Ogs to lose, although there's potential there for an upset this weekend, Granemore have hit a nice run of form and have had 2 high tempo legue games in recent weeks against teams that are more than the equal of anything in Division 1 while the Ogs have been footering about with half teams in the league.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 02, 2010, 01:09:52 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 01, 2010, 10:26:46 PM
Paul Kernan will be serving his ban from what I've heard (much to my suprise I must say).

If PK is absent that would be a significant boost for us as i would imagine Francie will head back to FB, 2 years ago in the semi in the Athletic Grounds he was cleaned by Beefer and K Kelly and a different ref could have lined him for his persistent fouling.  Cross are obviously huge favourites but we can give them a game;  we've played games this year were we've been fantastic for 15 or 20 mins and then played woeful for the rest of the game, if we can play well and maintain that over the hour we have a slim chance - if Cross get a good start we could be screwed.

At the minute I still think  the champ is the Ogs to lose, although there's potential there for an upset this weekend, Granemore have hit a nice run of form and have had 2 high tempo legue games in recent weeks against teams that are more than the equal of anything in Division 1 while the Ogs have been footering about with half teams in the league.

Why is it a surprise.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 02, 2010, 08:16:10 AM
As teams invariably try (and most succeed) to get it reduced to 2 yellows & not just Cross, P loughran in Crup v Cross being a good example
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 02, 2010, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 02, 2010, 08:16:10 AM
As teams invariably try (and most succeed) to get it reduced to 2 yellows & not just Cross, P loughran in Crup v Cross being a good example

fair enough benny, can we have examples of Cross doing it to back up uour original comment?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 02, 2010, 01:58:59 PM
i know it wasn't the harps that done it but i seem to remember peader toal get a straight red reduced to two yellows while he was on armagh u21 team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 02, 2010, 06:33:14 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 02, 2010, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 02, 2010, 08:16:10 AM
As teams invariably try (and most succeed) to get it reduced to 2 yellows & not just Cross, P loughran in Crup v Cross being a good example

fair enough benny, can we have examples of Cross doing it to back up uour original comment?
To back up that i was suprised???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 02, 2010, 09:35:06 PM
Paul Kernan had his red card downgraded to a yellow tonight by the Armagh County Board after they viewed a video of the incident kindly given to them by Dromintee GFC.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 02, 2010, 09:40:29 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 02, 2010, 09:35:06 PM
Paul Kernan had his red card downgraded to a yellow tonight by the Armagh County Board  after they viewed a video of the incident kindly given to them by Dromintee GFC.

Use of video evidence???  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 03, 2010, 09:38:32 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 02, 2010, 09:35:06 PM
Paul Kernan had his red card downgraded to a yellow tonight by the Armagh County Board after they viewed a video of the incident kindly given to them by Dromintee GFC.
no one on the board is surprised at this. they probually didnt even view the video. daddy must have made a call.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on September 03, 2010, 12:39:01 PM
Video provided by Dromintee - Surprised to hear this, Dont think Dromintee would be going too far out of thier way to provide favours for cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 03, 2010, 01:29:25 PM
very dead for the build up to the quarters

nab, cross and maghery to go through and il not tempt fate with the other one!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 03, 2010, 02:12:09 PM
Quote from: pearseog on September 03, 2010, 01:29:25 PM
very dead for the build up to the quarters

nab, cross and maghery to go through and il not tempt fate with the other one!!

Nab by 2, Cross by 7, St Pat's by 3, Og's by 7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: macca on September 03, 2010, 02:14:43 PM
With Paddy Toner at the helm of course the ogs will win. Paddy is great!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 03, 2010, 02:34:13 PM
Quote from: macca on September 03, 2010, 02:14:43 PM
With Paddy Toner at the helm of course the ogs will win. Paddy is great!!!


Are you he?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: macca on September 03, 2010, 03:33:41 PM
No just a fan of his coaching expertise. Lol. up the ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 03, 2010, 04:57:41 PM
Ballymacnab to win by 2

Cross to win by 5

Ogs to win by 8+

Cullyhanna to win by 4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on September 03, 2010, 05:04:04 PM
Ballymacnab to draw

Cross to win by 4

Ogs to win by 5+

Cullyhanna to win by 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 04, 2010, 12:22:21 PM
granemore have t mc clelland back to help strengthen the midfield sector , we need him as the ogs are a big phyisical side and we need all the help we can get  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaa.boy on September 04, 2010, 05:11:34 PM
Anyone got latest score in Nab v Dromintee match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 04, 2010, 05:21:41 PM
Quote from: gaa.boy on September 04, 2010, 05:11:34 PM
Anyone got latest score in Nab v Dromintee match?
dromintee leading by a pt at h-t
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Triggerhappy on September 04, 2010, 06:11:43 PM
Dromintee ran out winners by 7 at end. Much stronger team around middle of field. Referee played a big part in allowing 2nd dromintee goal when no 10 clearly overcarried by about 10 steps. Overall though dromintee deserved win but not by 7points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 04, 2010, 06:38:25 PM
granemore leading the ogs 6-1 at h-t  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on September 04, 2010, 07:08:07 PM
Quote from: torres on September 04, 2010, 06:38:25 PM
granemore leading the ogs 6-1 at h-t  :o

Any latest score? Was there a strong wind?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 04, 2010, 07:19:36 PM
9-3 to grmore,caolan raff sent off bou 10 mins ago.only 3 r 4 mins left i tink
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 04, 2010, 07:31:56 PM
the champions are detroned , granemore 9 - 5 ogs  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Worker on September 04, 2010, 07:38:03 PM
Quote from: torres on September 04, 2010, 07:31:56 PM
the champions are detroned , granemore 9 - 4 ogs  :)

fair play, wasnt expecting that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 04, 2010, 07:53:36 PM
Just shows what a big loss Clarke is for the ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 04, 2010, 08:06:24 PM
can blame injuries and that but granemore were hungrier and deserved their win..darren hughes at full back was immense for them. caolan rafferty was another standout player
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 04, 2010, 08:13:04 PM
Well done Granemore, more than deserving winners, Ogs very very poor. Granemore's nippy forwards caused the Ogs all sorts of probs in the first half, Ogs wiped out around the middle.

Ogs might have had their eye on the bigger prizes ahead, heard talk of 'giving Ulster a good go this year', if that's the type of mindset it's not suprising they came unstuck.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 04, 2010, 09:32:18 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 04, 2010, 08:13:04 PM
Well done Granemore, more than deserving winners, Ogs very very poor. Granemore's nippy forwards caused the Ogs all sorts of probs in the first half, Ogs wiped out around the middle.

Ogs might have had their eye on the bigger prizes ahead, heard talk of 'giving Ulster a good go this year', if that's the type of mindset it's not suprising they came unstuck.

Thet's bullshit... I never heard such talk from any Ogs man!! It was very much about trying to win back to back championships

Well done Granemore. Had their homework done but the Ogs boys owe nothing after what they achieved last year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on September 04, 2010, 10:58:28 PM
Granemore v Ogs - Disappointing game with many errors on both sides. Fair play to Granemore - much more appetite for the battle which I thought strange...Ogs must have played their worst game in a while and nearly everything they tried failed..passes kicked out over sideline, simple efforts kicked wide, possesion coughed up easily....agree that the granemore full back was outstanding but have to say Kieran Toner really impressed - won possesion many times while heavily outnumbered...spectecular at times...

"Just shows what a big loss Clarke is for the ogs" - I think that is a very dumb underinformed comment. Were you at the game? If you were you would realise that it was just not the Ogs day today - just had a real stinker all round. It was not to be for them today.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 05, 2010, 01:57:36 AM
Wasn't at the game but don't think I need to be at it to recognise that Ronan Clarke would be a huge loss to any team.

If you can't recognise this then I am afraid you are slightly dumb .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on September 05, 2010, 04:37:56 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 05, 2010, 01:57:36 AM
Wasn't at the game but don't think I need to be at it to recognise that Ronan Clarke would be a huge loss to any team.

If you can't recognise this then I am afraid you are slightly dumb .
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obviously ronan be a massive loss to any team, though the ogs were totally outfought imo.  the ogs disposed of mullaghbawn comprehensively in the last round and possibly underestimated granemore?was at the game,toner great at mf, caolon rafferty put in a gud shifyt at ff then wing half before a red, and o connor was good in the full forward line.  great results for granemore last 3 weeks, beat harps, the nab, then ogs, cross watch out! ;)congratulations granemore, really enjoyed their style of play tonight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 05, 2010, 09:01:50 AM
agree with you charlie. Ogs underestimated granemore. Ogs were outplayed all over the park. I thought benny rafferty and Martin Murphy were outstanding. they were the main ball players for Granemore. Division 2 is not as weak as some people think.   Harps will have it all to do to overturn Cross the way they have been playing lately but Cross are not the force they once were and we could have another shock on the Cards tonight. Fingers Crossed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on September 05, 2010, 09:55:59 AM
Of course Clarke would be a huge miss but its funny that was the only thing you had to say about the result of the match. It does not give Granemore any credit - when they deserve loads of credit for last night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 05, 2010, 12:05:26 PM
Quote from: fcuksake on September 05, 2010, 09:01:50 AM
agree with you charlie. Ogs underestimated granemore. Ogs were outplayed all over the park. I thought benny rafferty and Martin Murphy were outstanding. they were the main ball players for Granemore. Division 2 is not as weak as some people think.   Harps will have it all to do to overturn Cross the way they have been playing lately but Cross are not the force they once were and we could have another shock on the Cards tonight. Fingers Crossed

;) ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 05, 2010, 12:13:00 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 05, 2010, 05:28:59 PM
I took in both games yesterday which involved some questionable driving to get from Cullyhanna to the Ogs/Granemore game! Managed it anyway only a few minutes late.

Dromintee 2-12 Ballymacnab 0-11

This scoreline doesn't really tell the whole story. Ballymacnab can feel very hard done by and certainly deserved more from the game. They started well and Dromintee really couldn't handle their pace all over the field. Dromintee got two lucky first half goals to stay in touch, at least one of them should have been ruled out for steps and the other was debatable too.

In the second half Dromintee should have had a man sent off for a second yellow but the ref bottled it. I think Rory Robinson had a terrible game and was very much the main reason Dromintee won this match. Nab generally outplayed Dromintee for most of the game but Dromintee took their scores and slotted over some handy frees, they also put 5 points on the board in the last 5 minutes when the Nab boys heads were down which made the scoreboard read more comforably for them.

Nab will be a real force in Division 1 next year, can't see Dromintee getting past the semis no matter who they draw, too much quality left in the championship now and Dromintee look weak in several areas of the field.

Granemore 0-09 Pearse Ogs 0-04

I, like Pearse Ogs, completely underestimated Granemore. They showed more determination than Ogs right throughout the game. In general this was a very poor game with some bad play from both sides but in particular Ogs. That said, Granemore were putting them under a lot of pressure all over the field and causing them to make several mistakes.

Granemore are a very fast nippy team and will be a match for anyone in the semis now, fairplay to them they thoroughly deserved their win yesterday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on September 05, 2010, 06:45:08 PM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 05, 2010, 05:28:59 PM
I took in both games yesterday which involved some questionable driving to get from Cullyhanna to the Ogs/Granemore game! Managed it anyway only a few minutes late.

Dromintee 2-12 Ballymacnab 0-11

This scoreline doesn't really tell the whole story. Ballymacnab can feel very hard done by and certainly deserved more from the game. They started well and Dromintee really couldn't handle their pace all over the field. Dromintee got two lucky first half goals to stay in touch, at least one of them should have been ruled out for steps and the other was debatable too.

In the second half Dromintee should have had a man sent off for a second yellow but the ref bottled it. I think Rory Robinson had a terrible game and was very much the main reason Dromintee won this match. Nab generally outplayed Dromintee for most of the game but Dromintee took their scores and slotted over some handy frees, they also put 5 points on the board in the last 5 minutes when the Nab boys heads were down which made the scoreboard read more comforably for them.

Nab will be a real force in Division 1 next year, can't see Dromintee getting past the semis no matter who they draw, too much quality left in the championship now and Dromintee look weak in several areas of the field.

Granemore 0-09 Pearse Ogs 0-04

I, like Pearse Ogs, completely underestimated Granemore. They showed more determination than Ogs right throughout the game. In general this was a very poor game with some bad play from both sides but in particular Ogs. That said, Granemore were putting them under a lot of pressure all over the field and causing them to make several mistakes.

Granemore are a very fast nippy team and will be a match for anyone in the semis now, fairplay to them they thoroughly deserved their win yesterday.

couldnt agree with this...he gaveseveral dreadfull decisions again us in the first half...notable when ozzy gaughran and his marker slid on the ground for a ball which was won by nab player who, threw an elbow at ozzy, on his way to his feet (not 10 feet form robinson) which prompted the ref to award nab the free and book ozzy ??? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 05, 2010, 07:41:04 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 04, 2010, 08:13:04 PM
Well done Granemore, more than deserving winners, Ogs very very poor. Granemore's nippy forwards caused the Ogs all sorts of probs in the first half, Ogs wiped out around the middle.

Ogs might have had their eye on the bigger prizes ahead, heard talk of 'giving Ulster a good go this year',pe of mindset it's not suprising they came unstuck.
Harps might have had their mind on bigger prizes ahead, heard talk of 'giving div 2 a go this year',if it's this type of mindset it's not suprising they came unstuck.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 05, 2010, 07:44:54 PM
Quote from: ogshead on September 05, 2010, 07:41:04 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 04, 2010, 08:13:04 PM
Well done Granemore, more than deserving winners, Ogs very very poor. Granemore's nippy forwards caused the Ogs all sorts of probs in the first half, Ogs wiped out around the middle.

Ogs might have had their eye on the bigger prizes ahead, heard talk of 'giving Ulster a good go this year',pe of mindset it's not suprising they came unstuck.
Harps might have had their mind on bigger prizes ahead, heard talk of 'giving div 2 a go this year',if it's this type of mindset it's not suprising they came unstuck.

Can we take from that comment that the Abbey Park men didn't upset the Rangers?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 05, 2010, 08:00:05 PM
Scarface I haven't made a comment on the game as I wasn't at it so I sit back and listen to what the lads who were at it before I make a post on the game. I made a general post concerning Clarke after the og's shock exit from the championship and I still stand by this comment. Anyway according to you one can't comment on a game that they haven't been at because it will be misinformed or dumb.

Anyway well done to granemore on getting into the next round . I fancied a shock but it would have been in the dromintee game( congrats to them too) but neither team have won anything yet and my fancied team are still in it and tha's cross who IMO are streets ahead ( I had the og's in thisbracket too lol )

Any updates from the cross game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 05, 2010, 08:01:18 PM
Cross  won by 2 in the end but were mostly in control. We were 8 ahead going into injury time but Harps scored a second penalty and a goal from play to narrow the gap. Bit of handbags stuff also in injury time mostly caused by an inept referee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 05, 2010, 08:02:12 PM
Cheers lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on September 05, 2010, 08:09:17 PM
lads is there not a better field 2 hold matchs than cullyhanna pitch was in awful shape last nite plus no parkin same with cruppen 2day and along the road end was all muck??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on September 05, 2010, 08:21:06 PM
No bother winsamsoon - well drop this one now I think - lol

Harps did not play too great today - 2 points makes it look better than it was....cross fair bit better - miserable night for football....cross are masters of the negative side of the game too - persistant fouling, pulling and hauling and kicking ball away plenty of times tonight - they have many good points too of course...Jamie Clarke - very fast and skilful tonight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rma13 on September 05, 2010, 08:32:30 PM
I thought Jamie Clarke had another excellent game tonight, even in these conditions he hardly dropped a ball!  Thought Aaron Cunningham looked lively as well.

Poor night for football, but then our glorious Summer is over  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 05, 2010, 08:38:43 PM
don't know  why the bridge was overlooked for either of the games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 05, 2010, 09:02:11 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 05, 2010, 08:38:43 PM
don't know  why the bridge was overlooked for either of the games.

Maybe because their main pitch is a disgrace.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 05, 2010, 09:06:06 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 05, 2010, 08:38:43 PM
don't know  why the bridge was overlooked for either of the games.
you avin a laugh,fair enuf the parking facilities is good and that but the playing pitch is terrible..the hill on it is as bad as the final mile at cheltenham
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 05, 2010, 09:58:46 PM
Took in all 3 game sover the weekend and was quite surprisingly entertained by the standard.

Nab v Dromintee

Nab opened the game like they meant business, racing ahead. but from the ten minute mark they were strangled and dromintee were always in control. after doing a nab and racing 5 clear at the start of the second half, dromintee stopped and nab fought their way back level. a high quality last ten minutes pushed dromintee clear in some style.
Dromintee looked poor in possession at times but in patches played some super football. great to see the kick pass still alive. Ballymacnab play a lot of tippy tappy footballl and dromintee let them build and took a lot of ball off them in their half back line. Grogan looks a very fine prospect. In a county where there is such a dearth of creativity and scoring power in the half forward line, it is a mystery how micheal O'Rourke isn't among the best 40 odd players - the lad was outstanding.
mom - m o'rourke

Granemore v Pearse Ogs

Granemore set such a tempo from the start that ogs were chasing possession all over the pitch. phenominal movement in the forward line and a very high work rate meant that Granmore were the best team on display over the weekend imho. Caolan Rafferty was the star. great pace and very direct. Ogs played very few forwards up and Granemore pressed the ball so hard that it was hard for the county champions to retain possession in the clutter around midfield. Ogs showed a very poor appetite in the first half and had no creative spark at all. hughes and toner had a great battle at midfield with toner only really coming into it late on.
It was probably frustrating for ogs men watching the wastefulness up front early in the second half and they started looking goals too early after they threw caution to the wind after the sending off. Granemore remained a threat on the break after the sending off because they have such pace all over the pitch. they were always in control and were very deserving winners. Anto Duffy had a fine second half when he came in but no other ogs man played to form. mallon should have been on rafferty from the off and the ogs tackling at the back let them down consistently.
mom - caolan rafferty

Crossmaglen v Harps

after starting with the breeze, the harps continually wasted possession in the first half. it was obvious they wanted to be direct into a very big full forward line but the delivery of the ball in was woeful. they needed two nippy swifts. one to pass and one inside to get on the end of it. the harps forward line - swift aside - showed no stomach for the battle and won next to no hard ball until the game was over.
Cross were pacey and efficient with the ball. they move out of defence very well and don't waste a ball. nothing is ever just kicked - always measured and percentage passes - a necessity given their lack of physique. it's interesting watching them operate with no means of winning primary possession. thei midfield is awful and they have a hard time winning break ball but turn a lot of ball over in their defence and counter attack. Jamie clarke is virtually unmarkable at the minute. wins every type of ball near him, beats his man comfortably and scores prolificly. Oisin is still kicking his frees as well as ever and that's a massive weapon.
Cross the foot off the gas with five to go and harps shought a bit of fight at last. the last 5 plus inj time showed quite a few frailties in the cross defence phtsically bit francie the red has to come back in.
mom - j clarke

Gripe of the weekend:
refereeing in armagh is awful. just awful.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 06, 2010, 09:05:22 AM
Ogs very disappointed with their display on saturday night putting in their worst display in years. Still the injuries didn't help especially to key for wards which left them without a recognised free-taker. Ogs had 16 wides to Granemores 3. Still good luck to granemore who had a good start and built on it. But with the ogs having a relatively young team and with ronan clarke, mark cullen, sean moore scoring forwards to come back they will push on next year.

Cross let their guard down a bit against the Harps who wer very poor for most of the game until injury time when they plundered 2 goals. it is probably a wake up call for cross who will no doubt be glad to have seen the Ogs defeated. Well done Cross aka Benny per your comments.

The Nab were unlucky and i believe one of Dromintees goals should not have stood. The last 5 minutes beat the Nab with Dtees experience showing through

Have to say the referee in the Cross game was very poor with poor key decisions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on September 06, 2010, 10:46:56 AM
"hughes and toner had a great battle at midfield with toner only really coming into it late on."

This is simply not true - Toner was excellent from start to finish....Ogs had no answer to him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 06, 2010, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: Scarface on September 06, 2010, 10:46:56 AM
"hughes and toner had a great battle at midfield with toner only really coming into it late on."

This is simply not true - Toner was excellent from start to finish....Ogs had no answer to him.
Correct. Toner bossed midfield. McClelland was excellent aswell considering his circumstances.

Can't see past Cross regaining their title. I think the biggest threat will come from Cullyhanna if they overcome Maghery. Think they'll relish a good go at Cross. Dromintee will no doubt choke if they get to the final. Granemore were impressive though that was against a poor Ogs side, so its hard to judge them. Their forwards are unreal though and will cause any team problems.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on September 06, 2010, 02:32:21 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 06, 2010, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: Scarface on September 06, 2010, 10:46:56 AM
"hughes and toner had a great battle at midfield with toner only really coming into it late on."

This is simply not true - Toner was excellent from start to finish....Ogs had no answer to him.
Correct. Toner bossed midfield. McClelland was excellent aswell considering his circumstances.

Can't see past Cross regaining their title. I think the biggest threat will come from Cullyhanna if they overcome Maghery. Think they'll relish a good go at Cross. Dromintee will no doubt choke if they get to the final. Granemore were impressive though that was against a poor Ogs side, so its hard to judge them. Their forwards are unreal though and will cause any team problems.

I don't know about that Fitzie, Dromintee and St Pats will fancy their chances against Cross. After the Og's beating Cross last year a few teams would have a bit more beliefe now, Dromintee are vastly experienced and i think they could be the surprise winners this year. St Pats are 2-3 players short of a good team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 06, 2010, 03:03:14 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on September 06, 2010, 02:32:21 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 06, 2010, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: Scarface on September 06, 2010, 10:46:56 AM
"hughes and toner had a great battle at midfield with toner only really coming into it late on."

This is simply not true - Toner was excellent from start to finish....Ogs had no answer to him.
Correct. Toner bossed midfield. McClelland was excellent aswell considering his circumstances.

Can't see past Cross regaining their title. I think the biggest threat will come from Cullyhanna if they overcome Maghery. Think they'll relish a good go at Cross. Dromintee will no doubt choke if they get to the final. Granemore were impressive though that was against a poor Ogs side, so its hard to judge them. Their forwards are unreal though and will cause any team problems.

I don't know about that Fitzie, Dromintee and St Pats will fancy their chances against Cross. After the Og's beating Cross last year a few teams would have a bit more beliefe now, Dromintee are vastly experienced and i think they could be the surprise winners this year. St Pats are 2-3 players short of a good team.

Would agree there about Dromintee, I reckon it is there's to lose this year.  It is set up for them as Cross are not as strong as they have been, St Pat's/Maghery I just think are a small bit short.  Granemore though could be the winners as there is nothing expected of them.  the thing is though can they cope with the tag of the team that beat the Ogs?  How will Dromintee deal with the "champions elect" label that they will no doubt pick up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 06, 2010, 03:12:19 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 06, 2010, 03:03:14 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on September 06, 2010, 02:32:21 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 06, 2010, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: Scarface on September 06, 2010, 10:46:56 AM
"hughes and toner had a great battle at midfield with toner only really coming into it late on."

This is simply not true - Toner was excellent from start to finish....Ogs had no answer to him.
Correct. Toner bossed midfield. McClelland was excellent aswell considering his circumstances.

Can't see past Cross regaining their title. I think the biggest threat will come from Cullyhanna if they overcome Maghery. Think they'll relish a good go at Cross. Dromintee will no doubt choke if they get to the final. Granemore were impressive though that was against a poor Ogs side, so its hard to judge them. Their forwards are unreal though and will cause any team problems.

I don't know about that Fitzie, Dromintee and St Pats will fancy their chances against Cross. After the Og's beating Cross last year a few teams would have a bit more beliefe now, Dromintee are vastly experienced and i think they could be the surprise winners this year. St Pats are 2-3 players short of a good team.

Would agree there about Dromintee, I reckon it is there's to lose this year.  It is set up for them as Cross are not as strong as they have been, St Pat's/Maghery I just think are a small bit short.  Granemore though could be the winners as there is nothing expected of them.  the thing is though can they cope with the tag of the team that beat the Ogs?  How will Dromintee deal with the "champions elect" label that they will no doubt pick up?

WUM  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 06, 2010, 03:15:15 PM
Bcb trying to be cute I see  ;)
Well maybe if its a different Dromintee team from the one I saw at the weekend youse are on about ya's might be right, otherwise Cross haven't much to fear. Dromintee on paper might be better than Cullyhanna but I think Pats are starting to peak at the right time and unlike Dromintee won't have psychological issues when it comes to playing cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 06, 2010, 03:26:30 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 06, 2010, 03:15:15 PM
Bcb trying to be cute I see  ;)
Well maybe if its a different Dromintee team from the one I saw at the weekend youse are on about ya's might be right, otherwise Cross haven't much to fear. Dromintee on paper might be better than Cullyhanna but I think Pats are starting to peak at the right time and unlike Dromintee won't have psychological issues when it comes to playing cross.

Not even my wife would ever describe me as cute :P  I just seen this as a great chance for Dromintee.  Whether people see me as a WUM or not is immaterial to me.  I call it as I see it, last year I called a 3 point win for the Ogs and I was right, this year I reckon it is Dromintees championship, at last , if they can keep their heads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: shawshank on September 06, 2010, 03:30:49 PM
That was a real turn up for the books, with the Ogs getting beaten, didn't expect that. Cross cant have gone back that far as for them not to be favourites, especially with their record.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 06, 2010, 04:16:01 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 06, 2010, 03:03:14 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on September 06, 2010, 02:32:21 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 06, 2010, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: Scarface on September 06, 2010, 10:46:56 AM
"hughes and toner had a great battle at midfield with toner only really coming into it late on."

This is simply not true - Toner was excellent from start to finish....Ogs had no answer to him.
Correct. Toner bossed midfield. McClelland was excellent aswell considering his circumstances.

Can't see past Cross regaining their title. I think the biggest threat will come from Cullyhanna if they overcome Maghery. Think they'll relish a good go at Cross. Dromintee will no doubt choke if they get to the final. Granemore were impressive though that was against a poor Ogs side, so its hard to judge them. Their forwards are unreal though and will cause any team problems.

I don't know about that Fitzie, Dromintee and St Pats will fancy their chances against Cross. After the Og's beating Cross last year a few teams would have a bit more beliefe now, Dromintee are vastly experienced and i think they could be the surprise winners this year. St Pats are 2-3 players short of a good team.

Would agree there about Dromintee, I reckon it is there's to lose this year.  It is set up for them as Cross are not as strong as they have been, St Pat's/Maghery I just think are a small bit short.  Granemore though could be the winners as there is nothing expected of them.  the thing is though can they cope with the tag of the team that beat the Ogs?  How will Dromintee deal with the "champions elect" label that they will no doubt pick up?

What are you smoking!? Who, other than you just there now, is labelling Dromintee as "champions elect"?

Dromintee are decent and I've no doubt you believe they pose a threat which explains your outlandish statements trying to tag them as favourites but I think their best chance to win the championship has been and gone.

The bookies will seriously disagree with you anyway. Cross were 4/9 before the weekend and I'd expect them to be in and around 2/7 now at best with Ogs gone. It's Cross' championship to lose.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 06, 2010, 05:05:50 PM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 06, 2010, 04:16:01 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 06, 2010, 03:03:14 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on September 06, 2010, 02:32:21 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 06, 2010, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: Scarface on September 06, 2010, 10:46:56 AM
"hughes and toner had a great battle at midfield with toner only really coming into it late on."

This is simply not true - Toner was excellent from start to finish....Ogs had no answer to him.
Correct. Toner bossed midfield. McClelland was excellent aswell considering his circumstances.

Can't see past Cross regaining their title. I think the biggest threat will come from Cullyhanna if they overcome Maghery. Think they'll relish a good go at Cross. Dromintee will no doubt choke if they get to the final. Granemore were impressive though that was against a poor Ogs side, so its hard to judge them. Their forwards are unreal though and will cause any team problems.

I don't know about that Fitzie, Dromintee and St Pats will fancy their chances against Cross. After the Og's beating Cross last year a few teams would have a bit more beliefe now, Dromintee are vastly experienced and i think they could be the surprise winners this year. St Pats are 2-3 players short of a good team.

Would agree there about Dromintee, I reckon it is there's to lose this year.  It is set up for them as Cross are not as strong as they have been, St Pat's/Maghery I just think are a small bit short.  Granemore though could be the winners as there is nothing expected of them.  the thing is though can they cope with the tag of the team that beat the Ogs?  How will Dromintee deal with the "champions elect" label that they will no doubt pick up?

What are you smoking!? Who, other than you just there now, is labelling Dromintee as "champions elect"?

Dromintee are decent and I've no doubt you believe they pose a threat which explains your outlandish statements trying to tag them as favourites but I think their best chance to win the championship has been and gone.

The bookies will seriously disagree with you anyway. Cross were 4/9 before the weekend and I'd expect them to be in and around 2/7 now at best with Ogs gone. It's Cross' championship to lose.

I don't know Sam, bookies badly wrong last year so they can be wrong again.  Cross obviously will be tough to beat but I have a feeling in my bones and it is not from all the rain today ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 06, 2010, 05:28:23 PM
Don't think any senior championship games were ever won in a bookies so the odds they quote mean fcuk all

I think cross are certs for the championship . Dromintee imo simply aren't good enough in a lot of areas, cullyhanna share the same flaws. Maghery are too light to beat cross but play a good brand of football . The only team i feel can put it up to cross is Granemore, the reason i say this is because i haven't seen much of them and going by the result at the weekend and the comments about their performances i am willing to place them at number two . If i had to rate  the teams left in the championship in terms of winning it at the moment it would be as follows

Cross 9/10 - Very tight defence when at the top of the game and plenty of scoring forwards. Small chink in the armour would be the midfiled,. Gave them 9 because there is always a chance.

Granemore- 7/10   A decent forward line and midfield could possibly secure enough possession at midfield to trouble the cross.

Cullyhanna- 6/10- Not enough scoring forwards too reliant on MC Keever and Mackin. Any decent team should contain them up front and notch up enough scores to win.

Dromintee 6/10 - A team that had potential but always failed to fulfil it. Too reliant on a few individual players that can't seem to stand up and be counted for big games. This could have been down to a psychological barrier with the cross and i may have to eat these words but i feel their defense is dodgy enough and not enough scoring forwards.

Maghery 6/10- Will try all day and run all day but will be too light in defence and around the middle. May edge the game with Cullyhanna because of their pace and scoring forwards but can be very wasteful up front at times (plus the two lads missing won't help them)  I would fancy cross to beat them by at least 7

That's how i see it anyway lads i look forward to the scathing attacks  ;) :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 06, 2010, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: ogshead on September 04, 2010, 09:32:18 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 04, 2010, 08:13:04 PM
Well done Granemore, more than deserving winners, Ogs very very poor. Granemore's nippy forwards caused the Ogs all sorts of probs in the first half, Ogs wiped out around the middle.

Ogs might have had their eye on the bigger prizes ahead, heard talk of 'giving Ulster a good go this year', if that's the type of mindset it's not suprising they came unstuck.

Thet's bullshit... I never heard such talk from any Ogs man!! It was very much about trying to win back to back championships

Eh, maybe you should have been concentrating on Granemore not 'back to backs' nevermind Ulsters.  And i can assure you it's not bullshit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 06, 2010, 09:41:29 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 06, 2010, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: ogshead on September 04, 2010, 09:32:18 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 04, 2010, 08:13:04 PM
Well done Granemore, more than deserving winners, Ogs very very poor. Granemore's nippy forwards caused the Ogs all sorts of probs in the first half, Ogs wiped out around the middle.

Ogs might have had their eye on the bigger prizes ahead, heard talk of 'giving Ulster a good go this year', if that's the type of mindset it's not suprising they came unstuck.

Thet's bullshit... I never heard such talk from any Ogs man!! It was very much about trying to win back to back championships

Eh, maybe you should have been concentrating on Granemore not 'back to backs' nevermind Ulsters.  And i can assure you it's not bullshit.

Alright then... name and shame there!! Who said about targeting Ulsters??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on September 06, 2010, 09:59:42 PM
I believe Ollie Hearty was at his work again on Sunday. He sent off a Tir na nOg player for refusing to tell the supporters to refrain from questioning his ability as a referee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 06, 2010, 10:17:47 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 06, 2010, 03:03:14 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on September 06, 2010, 02:32:21 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 06, 2010, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: Scarface on September 06, 2010, 10:46:56 AM
"hughes and toner had a great battle at midfield with toner only really coming into it late on."

This is simply not true - Toner was excellent from start to finish....Ogs had no answer to him.
Correct. Toner bossed midfield. McClelland was excellent aswell considering his circumstances.

Can't see past Cross regaining their title. I think the biggest threat will come from Cullyhanna if they overcome Maghery. Think they'll relish a good go at Cross. Dromintee will no doubt choke if they get to the final. Granemore were impressive though that was against a poor Ogs side, so its hard to judge them. Their forwards are unreal though and will cause any team problems.

I don't know about that Fitzie, Dromintee and St Pats will fancy their chances against Cross. After the Og's beating Cross last year a few teams would have a bit more beliefe now, Dromintee are vastly experienced and i think they could be the surprise winners this year. St Pats are 2-3 players short of a good team.

Would agree there about Dromintee, I reckon it is there's to lose this year.  It is set up for them as Cross are not as strong as they have been, St Pat's/Maghery I just think are a small bit short.  Granemore though could be the winners as there is nothing expected of them.  the thing is though can they cope with the tag of the team that beat the Ogs?  How will Dromintee deal with the "champions elect" label that they will no doubt pick up?
wat is this chap smoking,wouldnt wana jinx our boys but if we got over maghery dromintee would be the team ud like in the draw.they couldnt win it when they had a better team than they have now..thats my opinion..theirs to lose.lol :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Triggerhappy on September 06, 2010, 10:26:07 PM
judging by what i watched on sat afternoon, i would be looking for Dromintee in the Semis. Granted they were missing barry shannon and kevin dyas but if ballymacnab had a decent midfield they would have beaten dromintee. Dromintee were dominant in this area for large parts of the game and very econimical with their scores but ballymacnab should have had them buried. Granemore would be more than fit for both cullyhanna (proven last year) and dromintee. I havent seen maghery this year so cant comment on them and Cross are Cross but again are more vunerable than in previous years but i still cant see them losing this years championship. If the draw works out i predict a granemore v cross final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 07, 2010, 09:15:34 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 06, 2010, 05:28:23 PM
Don't think any senior championship games were ever won in a bookies so the odds they quote mean fcuk all

I think cross are certs for the championship . Dromintee imo simply aren't good enough in a lot of areas, cullyhanna share the same flaws. Maghery are too light to beat cross but play a good brand of football . The only team i feel can put it up to cross is Granemore, the reason i say this is because i haven't seen much of them and going by the result at the weekend and the comments about their performances i am willing to place them at number two . If i had to rate  the teams left in the championship in terms of winning it at the moment it would be as follows

Cross 9/10 - Very tight defence when at the top of the game and plenty of scoring forwards. Small chink in the armour would be the midfiled,. Gave them 9 because there is always a chance.

Granemore- 7/10   A decent forward line and midfield could possibly secure enough possession at midfield to trouble the cross.

Cullyhanna- 6/10- Not enough scoring forwards too reliant on MC Keever and Mackin. Any decent team should contain them up front and notch up enough scores to win.

Dromintee 6/10 - A team that had potential but always failed to fulfil it. Too reliant on a few individual players that can't seem to stand up and be counted for big games. This could have been down to a psychological barrier with the cross and i may have to eat these words but i feel their defense is dodgy enough and not enough scoring forwards.

Maghery 6/10- Will try all day and run all day but will be too light in defence and around the middle. May edge the game with Cullyhanna because of their pace and scoring forwards but can be very wasteful up front at times (plus the two lads missing won't help them)  I would fancy cross to beat them by at least 7

That's how i see it anyway lads i look forward to the scathing attacks  ;) :D :D

Bookies odds don't mean f*ck all, they follow the money. So it's generally a good idea of what people who are prepared to put cash on the line believe what's going to happen. Of course they are wrong sometimes, thats the beauty of sport but they are right most of the time.

Is there a bigger egomaniac on the board than Winsamsoon? He states firstly that he's barely seen some of the contenders, therefore knows little about them, then he continues to give a detailed rating on each team left in the competition. Does he think his opinion is valued so much that we are prepared to accept guesswork and hearsay as good analysis?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Winnie Peg on September 07, 2010, 10:46:23 AM
It has to be said that Armagh club football is awful and other than Cross the rest wouldn't make a good intermediate team in another county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 07, 2010, 12:05:36 PM

You may feel that you have to say it but i thought the football at the weekend was good. Harps didn't make a contest of the last game but other than that there was some great stuff played.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on September 07, 2010, 12:05:57 PM
Quote from: Winnie Peg on September 07, 2010, 10:46:23 AM
It has to be said that Armagh club football is awful and other than Cross the rest wouldn't make a good intermediate team in another county.

Now you're talking Winnie ::) I'm sure you're some footballer yourself ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 07, 2010, 03:18:55 PM

Is there a bigger egomaniac on the board than Winsamsoon? He states firstly that he's barely seen some of the contenders, therefore knows little about them, then he continues to give a detailed rating on each team left in the competition. Does he think his opinion is valued so much that we are prepared to accept guesswork and hearsay as good analysis?
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Firstly i think you are misunderstanding the purpose of a discussion board. It will be a collection of people views from all walks of life discussing topics. They will each have different opinions and look at things from different perspectives, hence the debate.

Secondly i have seen all  the teams that are still involved in the senior championship this year, but may not have seen them all in the championship. I have also played against them for the last ten years so i think my detailed account would be based on my personal experiences .

Thirdly by posting up my OPINIONS on the teams left in the championships i was inviting debate on the issue. I can clearly see though that you haven't got the intelligience to discuss or debate the issue at hand. This is evident as your only post has been a personal attack on me. Try debating the issues instead of sitting back reading posts and then deciding to attack people. It isn't rocket science so give an opinion on the fourthcoming games . I'm not into these personal attacks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on September 07, 2010, 03:29:51 PM
Out by the roots son :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 07, 2010, 04:04:21 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 07, 2010, 03:18:55 PM

Is there a bigger egomaniac on the board than Winsamsoon? He states firstly that he's barely seen some of the contenders, therefore knows little about them, then he continues to give a detailed rating on each team left in the competition. Does he think his opinion is valued so much that we are prepared to accept guesswork and hearsay as good analysis?

Firstly i think you are misunderstanding the purpose of a discussion board. It will be a collection of people views from all walks of life discussing topics. They will each have different opinions and look at things from different perspectives, hence the debate.

Secondly i have seen all  the teams that are still involved in the senior championship this year, but may not have seen them all in the championship. I have also played against them for the last ten years so i think my detailed account would be based on my personal experiences .

Thirdly by posting up my OPINIONS on the teams left in the championships i was inviting debate on the issue. I can clearly see though that you haven't got the intelligience to discuss or debate the issue at hand. This is evident as your only post has been a personal attack on me. Try debating the issues instead of sitting back reading posts and then deciding to attack people. It isn't rocket science so give an opinion on the fourthcoming games . I'm not into these personal attacks
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The old 'this is a discussion board' argument. Original.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 07, 2010, 04:06:48 PM
any betting for the ifc final???

tink culloville cud shade it,even though they ave fallen at this hurdle a couple of times in recent years
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 07, 2010, 07:38:30 PM
Caref fitz you run the risk of becoming the second most egomaniac on the board for stating opinions on the delegation battle  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 07, 2010, 08:47:12 PM
all fellow maniacs are welcome on this board.  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on September 07, 2010, 11:07:18 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 07, 2010, 07:38:30 PM
Caref fitz you run the risk of becoming the second most egomaniac on the board for stating opinions on the delegation battle  :D

They are fighting to assign responsibility to their subordinates?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 07, 2010, 11:56:37 PM
Very good shea I trully made a Cnut of that one lol trying to type on an iPod touch with fat fingers, predictive text and all the rest lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mrenergizer on September 08, 2010, 12:26:57 AM
Anybody any pics/updates on the new athletic grounds?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 08, 2010, 01:55:31 PM
No pics.....but the stand has come on very well in the last few weeks......starting to take shape.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 08, 2010, 10:13:21 PM
Granemore V Dromintee

Crossmaglen V Maghery/Cullyhanna

Odds courtesy of Paddy Power:

Crossmaglen 1/8
Dromintee 7/1
Granemore 10/1
Cullyhanna 16/1
Maghery 16/1
Ballymacnab 25/1

Although I do believe it's a cert, I wasn't expecting Cross to be that short! a bit short on Ballymacnab too, it should be more like 25 million to one given their current circumstances.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on September 08, 2010, 10:48:26 PM
When and who was the last side to win Div 1 before Cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 08, 2010, 11:44:19 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on September 08, 2010, 10:48:26 PM
When and who was the last side to win Div 1 before Cross?
we won it in 2002,, ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 09, 2010, 07:39:19 AM
Did Clans win it about 4 years ago?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 09, 2010, 08:21:00 AM

Cullyhanna, dromintee and clans (x2 maybe) have won it in the last 7/8 years i think?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on September 09, 2010, 09:55:14 AM
Cross are ridiculously short there at 1/8.

Looks like Powers haven't realised Dromintee have beat Nab as the two of them are still the same price they were before the weeekend, vlue to be had there in backing Dromintee especially playing Granemore in the next round.

I think if Cross meet Dromintee in the final, Cross won't be 1/8, they will be a bigger price.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:00:13 AM
I see on armaghgaa.net there that the Championship Final is fixed for Crossmaglen.

This is nothing short of scandalous. Granted they're not in the final yet but it is highly likely that they will be and the County board are giving them an advantage yet again.

They train on that ground, they play there week in week out and they'll have all their home support in their own back yard if they reach the final. This is surely worth 3 points at least to any team. How can this be allowed to happen? There are many other grounds capable of holding the game, shouldn't it be a neutral ground, decided on as and when the finalists are known?

I doubt there is any other county in Ireland where this sort of thing goes on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on September 09, 2010, 11:05:56 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:00:13 AM
I see on armaghgaa.net there that the Championship Final is fixed for Crossmaglen.

This is nothing short of scandalous. Granted they're not in the final yet but it is highly likely that they will be and the County board are giving them an advantage yet again.

They train on that ground, they play there week in week out and they'll have all their home support in their own back yard if they reach the final. This is surely worth 3 points at least to any team. How can this be allowed to happen? There are many other grounds capable of holding the game, shouldn't it be a neutral ground, decided on as and when the finalists are known?

I doubt there is any other county in Ireland where this sort of thing goes on.

As i referred to in the hurling thread, county finals are to be played in county grounds.

Although there is a number of grounds capable of holding it two of the three potential grounds are under development and are unavailable.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:00:13 AM
I see on armaghgaa.net there that the Championship Final is fixed for Crossmaglen.

This is nothing short of scandalous. Granted they're not in the final yet but it is highly likely that they will be and the County board are giving them an advantage yet again.

They train on that ground, they play there week in week out and they'll have all their home support in their own back yard if they reach the final. This is surely worth 3 points at least to any team. How can this be allowed to happen? There are many other grounds capable of holding the game, shouldn't it be a neutral ground, decided on as and when the finalists are known?

I doubt there is any other county in Ireland where this sort of thing goes on.

Because we told the county board they had to play the Final in Cross and that was that ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:10:21 AM
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on September 09, 2010, 11:05:56 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:00:13 AM
I see on armaghgaa.net there that the Championship Final is fixed for Crossmaglen.

This is nothing short of scandalous. Granted they're not in the final yet but it is highly likely that they will be and the County board are giving them an advantage yet again.

They train on that ground, they play there week in week out and they'll have all their home support in their own back yard if they reach the final. This is surely worth 3 points at least to any team. How can this be allowed to happen? There are many other grounds capable of holding the game, shouldn't it be a neutral ground, decided on as and when the finalists are known?

I doubt there is any other county in Ireland where this sort of thing goes on.

As i referred to in the hurling thread, county finals are to be played in county grounds.

Although there is a number of grounds capable of holding it two of the three potential grounds are under development and are unavailable.

Rubbish, why does it have to be in a county ground? Surely this is not something that should be a concrete rule in the interest of keeping a level playing field for all the participants.

Carrickcruppen, for one, is capable of hosting this game, they've hosted county games before.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:00:13 AM
I see on armaghgaa.net there that the Championship Final is fixed for Crossmaglen.

This is nothing short of scandalous. Granted they're not in the final yet but it is highly likely that they will be and the County board are giving them an advantage yet again.

They train on that ground, they play there week in week out and they'll have all their home support in their own back yard if they reach the final. This is surely worth 3 points at least to any team. How can this be allowed to happen? There are many other grounds capable of holding the game, shouldn't it be a neutral ground, decided on as and when the finalists are known?

I doubt there is any other county in Ireland where this sort of thing goes on.

Because we told the county board they had to play the Final in Cross and that was that ::)

Don't be so childish, no one is saying that. I just believe in creating a level playing field for all participants and no team should be given home advantage for a championship final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:00:13 AM
I see on armaghgaa.net there that the Championship Final is fixed for Crossmaglen.

This is nothing short of scandalous. Granted they're not in the final yet but it is highly likely that they will be and the County board are giving them an advantage yet again.

They train on that ground, they play there week in week out and they'll have all their home support in their own back yard if they reach the final. This is surely worth 3 points at least to any team. How can this be allowed to happen? There are many other grounds capable of holding the game, shouldn't it be a neutral ground, decided on as and when the finalists are known?

I doubt there is any other county in Ireland where this sort of thing goes on.

Because we told the county board they had to play the Final in Cross and that was that ::)

Don't be so childish, no one is saying that. I just believe in creating a level playing field for all participants and no team should be given home advantage for a championship final.

The same shit happens every year that the Final is played in Cross.  There are regulations in relation to playing county finals and they have to be played at designated County grounds simple as that.  We never bitched when we had to play the Ogs in the Athletic Grounds.  The County Board have not been able to get teh Athletic Grounds finished therefore it has to be played in Cross.  Whether or not a field is capable of holding the game is completely different from the rules that surround the fixture.  if you or anyone else has a problem with this go to the Armagh convention, raise it as an issue, have the county delegates vote on it, if it is passed then it can go before HQ and let them make the decision as it is from the top that the directive has come.  If you don't want to do that shut your whinging mouth and get over it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 09, 2010, 11:36:03 AM
What date(s) are the semis & final down for?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:00:13 AM
I see on armaghgaa.net there that the Championship Final is fixed for Crossmaglen.

This is nothing short of scandalous. Granted they're not in the final yet but it is highly likely that they will be and the County board are giving them an advantage yet again.

They train on that ground, they play there week in week out and they'll have all their home support in their own back yard if they reach the final. This is surely worth 3 points at least to any team. How can this be allowed to happen? There are many other grounds capable of holding the game, shouldn't it be a neutral ground, decided on as and when the finalists are known?

I doubt there is any other county in Ireland where this sort of thing goes on.

Because we told the county board they had to play the Final in Cross and that was that ::)

Don't be so childish, no one is saying that. I just believe in creating a level playing field for all participants and no team should be given home advantage for a championship final.

The same shit happens every year that the Final is played in Cross.  There are regulations in relation to playing county finals and they have to be played at designated County grounds simple as that.  We never bitched when we had to play the Ogs in the Athletic Grounds.  The County Board have not been able to get teh Athletic Grounds finished therefore it has to be played in Cross.  Whether or not a field is capable of holding the game is completely different from the rules that surround the fixture.  if you or anyone else has a problem with this go to the Armagh convention, raise it as an issue, have the county delegates vote on it, if it is passed then it can go before HQ and let them make the decision as it is from the top that the directive has come.  If you don't want to do that shut your whinging mouth and get over it.

Typical bullying Cross attitude.

So the if the Granemore lads get past Dromintee they'll have put out two of the bigger Div 1 teams and they'll then be expected to go Crossmaglen and try and beat them in their backyard with all the trappings and advantages that brings for Cross.

A venue that may involve a participating team should be the first to be ruled out. If there are directives in place meaning it has to be played at a county ground then in these extraordinary circumstances - and they are extraordinary circumstances, only people in our county won't recognise so - then it should be brought to the Marshes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 12:03:51 PM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:00:13 AM
I see on armaghgaa.net there that the Championship Final is fixed for Crossmaglen.

This is nothing short of scandalous. Granted they're not in the final yet but it is highly likely that they will be and the County board are giving them an advantage yet again.

They train on that ground, they play there week in week out and they'll have all their home support in their own back yard if they reach the final. This is surely worth 3 points at least to any team. How can this be allowed to happen? There are many other grounds capable of holding the game, shouldn't it be a neutral ground, decided on as and when the finalists are known?

I doubt there is any other county in Ireland where this sort of thing goes on.

Because we told the county board they had to play the Final in Cross and that was that ::)

Don't be so childish, no one is saying that. I just believe in creating a level playing field for all participants and no team should be given home advantage for a championship final.

The same shit happens every year that the Final is played in Cross.  There are regulations in relation to playing county finals and they have to be played at designated County grounds simple as that.  We never bitched when we had to play the Ogs in the Athletic Grounds.  The County Board have not been able to get teh Athletic Grounds finished therefore it has to be played in Cross.  Whether or not a field is capable of holding the game is completely different from the rules that surround the fixture.  if you or anyone else has a problem with this go to the Armagh convention, raise it as an issue, have the county delegates vote on it, if it is passed then it can go before HQ and let them make the decision as it is from the top that the directive has come.  If you don't want to do that shut your whinging mouth and get over it.

Typical bullying Cross attitude.

So the if the Granemore lads get past Dromintee they'll have put out two of the bigger Div 1 teams and they'll then be expected to go Crossmaglen and try and beat them in their backyard with all the trappings and advantages that brings for Cross.

A venue that may involve a participating team should be the first to be ruled out. If there are directives in place meaning it has to be played at a county ground then in these extraordinary circumstances - and they are extraordinary circumstances, only people in our county won't recognise so - then it should be brought to the Marshes.
#

I would have no problem with that whatsoever.  Get your club delegate to propse it at the next AGM.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on September 09, 2010, 12:05:01 PM
There are designated county grounds in Armagh and 2 out of the 3 are under construction so that just leaves Crossmaglen, with new H&S laws and other red tape it rules out any other venue other than Crossmaglen. So thats where the match is and as BC! said "build a bridge and get over it". The teams in the semi finals will (at this stage) only be too glad to be playing a championship final in Crossmaglen.

Next year it will be back to the Athletic grounds so thats that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 09, 2010, 12:15:18 PM
According to yer man Centre Half:

Armagh Senior Football Championship – Semi-finals & Final Details

Saturday 25 September
Armagh Senior Football Championship – Semi-final (5.00)
Dromintee v Granemore at Crossmaglen

Sunday 26 September
Armagh Senior Football Championship – Semi-final (5.00)
Crossmaglen v Maghery/St Patrick's at Cullyhanna or Silverbridge

Sunday 17 October
Armagh Senior Football Championship – Final
Dromintee/Granemore v Crossmaglen/Maghery/St Patrick's at Crossmaglen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 12:31:18 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 12:03:51 PM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:00:13 AM
I see on armaghgaa.net there that the Championship Final is fixed for Crossmaglen.

This is nothing short of scandalous. Granted they're not in the final yet but it is highly likely that they will be and the County board are giving them an advantage yet again.

They train on that ground, they play there week in week out and they'll have all their home support in their own back yard if they reach the final. This is surely worth 3 points at least to any team. How can this be allowed to happen? There are many other grounds capable of holding the game, shouldn't it be a neutral ground, decided on as and when the finalists are known?

I doubt there is any other county in Ireland where this sort of thing goes on.

Because we told the county board they had to play the Final in Cross and that was that ::)

Don't be so childish, no one is saying that. I just believe in creating a level playing field for all participants and no team should be given home advantage for a championship final.

The same shit happens every year that the Final is played in Cross.  There are regulations in relation to playing county finals and they have to be played at designated County grounds simple as that.  We never bitched when we had to play the Ogs in the Athletic Grounds.  The County Board have not been able to get teh Athletic Grounds finished therefore it has to be played in Cross.  Whether or not a field is capable of holding the game is completely different from the rules that surround the fixture.  if you or anyone else has a problem with this go to the Armagh convention, raise it as an issue, have the county delegates vote on it, if it is passed then it can go before HQ and let them make the decision as it is from the top that the directive has come.  If you don't want to do that shut your whinging mouth and get over it.

Typical bullying Cross attitude.

So the if the Granemore lads get past Dromintee they'll have put out two of the bigger Div 1 teams and they'll then be expected to go Crossmaglen and try and beat them in their backyard with all the trappings and advantages that brings for Cross.

A venue that may involve a participating team should be the first to be ruled out. If there are directives in place meaning it has to be played at a county ground then in these extraordinary circumstances - and they are extraordinary circumstances, only people in our county won't recognise so - then it should be brought to the Marshes.
#

I would have no problem with that whatsoever.  Get your club delegate to propse it at the next AGM.

I will do! But theres surely nothing now restricting them from holding it in the Marshes so long as the Down county board agreed to it?

I don't think it's necessarily a 'give every advantage to Cross' type of thing either by the way, just our county board officials are so arrogant and would never go to Down admitting they have no suitable ground to hold our county final in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 12:32:34 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on September 09, 2010, 12:05:01 PM
There are designated county grounds in Armagh and 2 out of the 3 are under construction so that just leaves Crossmaglen, with new H&S laws and other red tape it rules out any other venue other than Crossmaglen. So thats where the match is and as BC! said "build a bridge and get over it". The teams in the semi finals will (at this stage) only be too glad to be playing a championship final in Crossmaglen.

Next year it will be back to the Athletic grounds so thats that

So semi-finals are exempt from these laws and rules then?  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 09, 2010, 12:56:17 PM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:00:13 AM
I see on armaghgaa.net there that the Championship Final is fixed for Crossmaglen.

This is nothing short of scandalous. Granted they're not in the final yet but it is highly likely that they will be and the County board are giving them an advantage yet again.

They train on that ground, they play there week in week out and they'll have all their home support in their own back yard if they reach the final. This is surely worth 3 points at least to any team. How can this be allowed to happen? There are many other grounds capable of holding the game, shouldn't it be a neutral ground, decided on as and when the finalists are known?

I doubt there is any other county in Ireland where this sort of thing goes on.

Because we told the county board they had to play the Final in Cross and that was that ::)

Don't be so childish, no one is saying that. I just believe in creating a level playing field for all participants and no team should be given home advantage for a championship final.

The same shit happens every year that the Final is played in Cross.  There are regulations in relation to playing county finals and they have to be played at designated County grounds simple as that.  We never bitched when we had to play the Ogs in the Athletic Grounds.  The County Board have not been able to get teh Athletic Grounds finished therefore it has to be played in Cross.  Whether or not a field is capable of holding the game is completely different from the rules that surround the fixture.  if you or anyone else has a problem with this go to the Armagh convention, raise it as an issue, have the county delegates vote on it, if it is passed then it can go before HQ and let them make the decision as it is from the top that the directive has come.  If you don't want to do that shut your whinging mouth and get over it.

Typical bullying Cross attitude.

So the if the Granemore lads get past Dromintee they'll have put out two of the bigger Div 1 teams and they'll then be expected to go Crossmaglen and try and beat them in their backyard with all the trappings and advantages that brings for Cross.

A venue that may involve a participating team should be the first to be ruled out. If there are directives in place meaning it has to be played at a county ground then in these extraordinary circumstances - and they are extraordinary circumstances, only people in our county won't recognise so - then it should be brought to the Marshes.
cross have to get to the final first sammy son,then they,l be in their backyard,,anyway teams relish goin into the lions den and we for 1 never feared goin to cross and had some mighty battles through the years with them,home and away.. ;D id gladly play in a county final wherever the venue
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on September 09, 2010, 01:00:42 PM
Playing the county final in cross if they are involved is another in a catelogue of disgraceful incidents of pandering to crossmaglen in the last ten years.

If the county board's answer is that its the only county ground available, then it is tantamount to putting their hands up and admitting they are incompetant fools. Everyone knew a year ago the athletic grounds and davitt would be closed. it is very simple to pass any number of other grounds in the county as a county venue - carrickcruppen for one. further, its is quite simple to get a ground passed under short notice as armagh have done a few times in the past with crossmaglen and carrickcruppen.

County final venue being a county ground is not in fact decreed from the official guide. It is adopted, or not, within county byelaws. each county makes it's own byelaws.

taking that all into consideration, the county executive have options in front of them.
1 - fix the final for cross
2 - have carrickcruppen passed (again) as a county ground
3 - fix the final for some other county ground - the marshes, dowdal's hill, blayney, etc.

3 would obviously be an embarrassment for them but they should have had a bit of foresightedness.

By the way, arguing that Cross playing the ogs in the athletic grounds last year is the same thing are wide of the mark. the athletic grounds are the county grounds and no club plays there. i doubt more than a handful of ogs players would have played a senior game in the athletic grounds when it was a home venue for them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 01:14:28 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on September 09, 2010, 01:00:42 PM
Playing the county final in cross if they are involved is another in a catelogue of disgraceful incidents of pandering to crossmaglen in the last ten years.

If the county board's answer is that its the only county ground available, then it is tantamount to putting their hands up and admitting they are incompetant fools. Everyone knew a year ago the athletic grounds and davitt would be closed. it is very simple to pass any number of other grounds in the county as a county venue - carrickcruppen for one. further, its is quite simple to get a ground passed under short notice as armagh have done a few times in the past with crossmaglen and carrickcruppen.

County final venue being a county ground is not in fact decreed from the official guide. It is adopted, or not, within county byelaws. each county makes it's own byelaws.

taking that all into consideration, the county executive have options in front of them.
1 - fix the final for cross
2 - have carrickcruppen passed (again) as a county ground
3 - fix the final for some other county ground - the marshes, dowdal's hill, blayney, etc.

3 would obviously be an embarrassment for them but they should have had a bit of foresightedness.

By the way, arguing that Cross playing the ogs in the athletic grounds last year is the same thing are wide of the mark. the athletic grounds are the county grounds and no club plays there. i doubt more than a handful of ogs players would have played a senior game in the athletic grounds when it was a home venue for them.

Aghdavoyle, you contradict yourself badly in your post.  Firstly you state that the CB is panderingf to Cross is a disgraceful way then you back it up by stating that the CB are incompetent by not having a viable alternative.  By your logic Cross have put a gun to the head of the CB and told them not to finish off Davitt or the Athletic Grounds so that the County Finals could be placed in Cross.  You all have to get over the conspiracy notion that Cross have control of the CB.  I have said it before and will say it again, we won the county in Cross, Armagh and the Bridge, it didn't matter.  If we are lucky enough to make it this year then I personally would rather it somewhere else than Cross, but it won't be and that is the CB fault and not Cross's so take the issue up with them about their incompetence rather than making the argument that they are doing it to me it easier for Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on September 09, 2010, 01:32:19 PM

We are agreed on the county board's shortsightedness and incompetence.

However, the pandering to cross comes from the decision to not prepare a viable alternative county final venue. The "ah sure we'll hold it in cross" attitude is more than lazy administration, its an insult to every other competing club and no doubt as much a sop to cross as was the agreement to keep hosting national league games there when the athletic grounds is available. those behind close door deals are the type of shite that sickens everyone in the county about the administrators we're lumbered with.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 02:07:38 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on September 09, 2010, 12:56:17 PM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:00:13 AM
I see on armaghgaa.net there that the Championship Final is fixed for Crossmaglen.

This is nothing short of scandalous. Granted they're not in the final yet but it is highly likely that they will be and the County board are giving them an advantage yet again.

They train on that ground, they play there week in week out and they'll have all their home support in their own back yard if they reach the final. This is surely worth 3 points at least to any team. How can this be allowed to happen? There are many other grounds capable of holding the game, shouldn't it be a neutral ground, decided on as and when the finalists are known?

I doubt there is any other county in Ireland where this sort of thing goes on.

Because we told the county board they had to play the Final in Cross and that was that ::)

Don't be so childish, no one is saying that. I just believe in creating a level playing field for all participants and no team should be given home advantage for a championship final.

The same shit happens every year that the Final is played in Cross.  There are regulations in relation to playing county finals and they have to be played at designated County grounds simple as that.  We never bitched when we had to play the Ogs in the Athletic Grounds.  The County Board have not been able to get teh Athletic Grounds finished therefore it has to be played in Cross.  Whether or not a field is capable of holding the game is completely different from the rules that surround the fixture.  if you or anyone else has a problem with this go to the Armagh convention, raise it as an issue, have the county delegates vote on it, if it is passed then it can go before HQ and let them make the decision as it is from the top that the directive has come.  If you don't want to do that shut your whinging mouth and get over it.

Typical bullying Cross attitude.

So the if the Granemore lads get past Dromintee they'll have put out two of the bigger Div 1 teams and they'll then be expected to go Crossmaglen and try and beat them in their backyard with all the trappings and advantages that brings for Cross.

A venue that may involve a participating team should be the first to be ruled out. If there are directives in place meaning it has to be played at a county ground then in these extraordinary circumstances - and they are extraordinary circumstances, only people in our county won't recognise so - then it should be brought to the Marshes.
cross have to get to the final first sammy son,then they,l be in their backyard,,anyway teams relish goin into the lions den and we for 1 never feared goin to cross and had some mighty battles through the years with them,home and away.. ;D id gladly play in a county final wherever the venue

And during these occasions when you mighty and fearless warriors went into the 'lion's den' who came up top on the all important scoreboard?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 09, 2010, 02:27:09 PM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 02:07:38 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on September 09, 2010, 12:56:17 PM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:24:49 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:16:09 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 11:00:13 AM
I see on armaghgaa.net there that the Championship Final is fixed for Crossmaglen.

This is nothing short of scandalous. Granted they're not in the final yet but it is highly likely that they will be and the County board are giving them an advantage yet again.

They train on that ground, they play there week in week out and they'll have all their home support in their own back yard if they reach the final. This is surely worth 3 points at least to any team. How can this be allowed to happen? There are many other grounds capable of holding the game, shouldn't it be a neutral ground, decided on as and when the finalists are known?

I doubt there is any other county in Ireland where this sort of thing goes on.

Because we told the county board they had to play the Final in Cross and that was that ::)

Don't be so childish, no one is saying that. I just believe in creating a level playing field for all participants and no team should be given home advantage for a championship final.

The same shit happens every year that the Final is played in Cross.  There are regulations in relation to playing county finals and they have to be played at designated County grounds simple as that.  We never bitched when we had to play the Ogs in the Athletic Grounds.  The County Board have not been able to get teh Athletic Grounds finished therefore it has to be played in Cross.  Whether or not a field is capable of holding the game is completely different from the rules that surround the fixture.  if you or anyone else has a problem with this go to the Armagh convention, raise it as an issue, have the county delegates vote on it, if it is passed then it can go before HQ and let them make the decision as it is from the top that the directive has come.  If you don't want to do that shut your whinging mouth and get over it.

Typical bullying Cross attitude.

So the if the Granemore lads get past Dromintee they'll have put out two of the bigger Div 1 teams and they'll then be expected to go Crossmaglen and try and beat them in their backyard with all the trappings and advantages that brings for Cross.

A venue that may involve a participating team should be the first to be ruled out. If there are directives in place meaning it has to be played at a county ground then in these extraordinary circumstances - and they are extraordinary circumstances, only people in our county won't recognise so - then it should be brought to the Marshes.
cross have to get to the final first sammy son,then they,l be in their backyard,,anyway teams relish goin into the lions den and we for 1 never feared goin to cross and had some mighty battles through the years with them,home and away.. ;D id gladly play in a county final wherever the venue

And during these occasions when you mighty and fearless warriors went into the 'lion's den' who came up top on the all important scoreboard?
weve had a share of the spoils usually until senior level.lol. ;D yes playing then final would be an advantage to cross at home but if st pats were to get there and thats an if we would get on with it,county finals are county finals no matter the venue..  you know any1 looking to back sarsfields in the ifc final..il take a bet as i fancy culloville to clinch it this year???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 09, 2010, 02:38:40 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on September 09, 2010, 01:00:42 PM
Playing the county final in cross if they are involved is another in a catelogue of disgraceful incidents of pandering to crossmaglen in the last ten years.

If the county board's answer is that its the only county ground available, then it is tantamount to putting their hands up and admitting they are incompetant fools. Everyone knew a year ago the athletic grounds and davitt would be closed. it is very simple to pass any number of other grounds in the county as a county venue - carrickcruppen for one. further, its is quite simple to get a ground passed under short notice as armagh have done a few times in the past with crossmaglen and carrickcruppen.

County final venue being a county ground is not in fact decreed from the official guide. It is adopted, or not, within county byelaws. each county makes it's own byelaws.

taking that all into consideration, the county executive have options in front of them.
1 - fix the final for cross
2 - have carrickcruppen passed (again) as a county ground3 - fix the final for some other county ground - the marshes, dowdal's hill, blayney, etc.

3 would obviously be an embarrassment for them but they should have had a bit of foresightedness.

By the way, arguing that Cross playing the ogs in the athletic grounds last year is the same thing are wide of the mark. the athletic grounds are the county grounds and no club plays there. i doubt more than a handful of ogs players would have played a senior game in the athletic grounds when it was a home venue for them.
How viable is this?
I presume that health & safety is getting tighter every year and it has been a while since Cruppen was used a county ground. 2002 is the last time I remember, although I may be wrong.
Holding the final in Cross, though far from ideal, is the only option.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 02:42:29 PM
Well one way or the other Cullyhanna won't have to deal with playing Cross in the final.

I'm sure I could find someone to take a bet with ya! I fancy us very strongly. We've been going relatively well in Div 1 this year, we could have gotten second season syndrome but we held our own against some of the big teams and although we've found ourselves in a bit of a relegation fight I think we'll have enough to pull through.

Our full forward line has been hard to stop in the championship to date and I think Cullaville will struggle with that too whilst I hope we can deal with their threat up front. Few of my trasna mates would be high rolling gamblers so I'm sure we could strike a deal!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 09, 2010, 02:56:44 PM
Cross aren't going to be in the final so the debate is somewhat irrelevant.  :)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 02:58:55 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 09, 2010, 02:56:44 PM
Cross aren't going to be in the final so the debate is somewhat irrelevant.  :)

Cross thrive on that sort of attitude.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 09, 2010, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 09, 2010, 02:56:44 PM
Cross aren't going to be in the final so the debate is somewhat irrelevant.  :)



Attaboy TAC, that's the spirit!!!  Granemore v Maghery final then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 09, 2010, 03:02:00 PM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 02:58:55 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 09, 2010, 02:56:44 PM
Cross aren't going to be in the final so the debate is somewhat irrelevant.  :)

Cross thrive on that sort of attitude.

Ah f**k! Don't tell me I've just handed the Rangers another county championship by this internet post?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on September 09, 2010, 03:31:53 PM
You could have Cruppin as a county ground but the Newry & Mourne would probably limit the crowd to about 1000-1200 patrons for H&S reasons, they catagerise grounds and factor their facilities (or lack of them) and anticipated crowd and then they set an actual attendance figure for that ground and obviously because it's a final you get almost every Gael from the county attending hence the 5000-7000 strong crowds at some previous finals. It wouldn't make much sense for the CB to fix a final for Cruppin to have 1000 people at it and loose about £40-50k.

The match is in Cross so just get over it, next year when it's back the Athletic Grounds then you can go and win it there beating Cross in the final.

Semi finals attract a decent crowd but no way near the capacity expected at a county final ::). Sarsfields man you should keep all your talking for after your final (by the way i hope you lot win)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on September 09, 2010, 04:28:35 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on September 09, 2010, 03:31:53 PM
You could have Cruppin as a county ground but the Newry & Mourne would probably limit the crowd to about 1000-1200 patrons for H&S reasons, they catagerise grounds and factor their facilities (or lack of them) and anticipated crowd and then they set an actual attendance figure for that ground and obviously because it's a final you get almost every Gael from the county attending hence the 5000-7000 strong crowds at some previous finals. It wouldn't make much sense for the CB to fix a final for Cruppin to have 1000 people at it and loose about £40-50k.

The match is in Cross so just get over it, next year when it's back the Athletic Grounds then you can go and win it there beating Cross in the final.

Semi finals attract a decent crowd but no way near the capacity expected at a county final ::). Sarsfields man you should keep all your talking for after your final (by the way i hope you lot win)

What a crock of shit that is.

If you're gonna try and contribute have a good think before you type. o and don't pull mystical figures out of your hole ffs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on September 09, 2010, 04:43:33 PM
Ahh quit your yapping FFS, if you get to the final then you'll have to play Cross in Cross. As far as Cruppin is concerned there is only one side of the ground allowed to view the match and because of the loose debris the crowd would be minimal so put that in your pipe and smoke it, yes the figures were pulled out of my hole :D but i can guarantee you they'll not be far away from actual figures that someone else just pulled from their hole (or their Stadia Safety-Red Book ;))
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 09, 2010, 05:26:07 PM
Quote from: Aghdavoyle on September 09, 2010, 04:28:35 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on September 09, 2010, 03:31:53 PM
You could have Cruppin as a county ground but the Newry & Mourne would probably limit the crowd to about 1000-1200 patrons for H&S reasons, they catagerise grounds and factor their facilities (or lack of them) and anticipated crowd and then they set an actual attendance figure for that ground and obviously because it's a final you get almost every Gael from the county attending hence the 5000-7000 strong crowds at some previous finals. It wouldn't make much sense for the CB to fix a final for Cruppin to have 1000 people at it and loose about £40-50k.

The match is in Cross so just get over it, next year when it's back the Athletic Grounds then you can go and win it there beating Cross in the final.

Semi finals attract a decent crowd but no way near the capacity expected at a county final ::). Sarsfields man you should keep all your talking for after your final (by the way i hope you lot win)

What a crock of shit that is.

If you're gonna try and contribute have a good think before you type. o and don't pull mystical figures out of your hole ffs
You are suggesting that the county board make Cruppen a "county ground" so that it can hold a final, do you know what they have to do to make it one? What health & safety regulations would they have to meet? I don't know how easy it that would be, do you?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 09, 2010, 08:19:02 PM
gettin bored of this talk bout where it should be played,,and who mentioned the marshes??? thats crap,taking our county final to another county,especially down.i would be in favour of a neutral ground but who cares,the best team should come through in the end..how many times were dublin turned over and spanked in croker in recent years..lol ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on September 09, 2010, 10:04:25 PM
anyone got updated league tables  armagh website nt up to date!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 09, 2010, 11:26:16 PM
Quote from: ogshead on September 06, 2010, 09:41:29 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 06, 2010, 07:26:23 PM
Quote from: ogshead on September 04, 2010, 09:32:18 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 04, 2010, 08:13:04 PM
Well done Granemore, more than deserving winners, Ogs very very poor. Granemore's nippy forwards caused the Ogs all sorts of probs in the first half, Ogs wiped out around the middle.

Ogs might have had their eye on the bigger prizes ahead, heard talk of 'giving Ulster a good go this year', if that's the type of mindset it's not suprising they came unstuck.

Thet's bullshit... I never heard such talk from any Ogs man!! It was very much about trying to win back to back championships

Eh, maybe you should have been concentrating on Granemore not 'back to backs' nevermind Ulsters.  And i can assure you it's not bullshit.

Alright then... name and shame there!! Who said about targeting Ulsters??

No reply then Benny  :-X
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 10, 2010, 09:07:35 AM
I was goin easy seein as you have been embarrassed enough this past fortnight, what with seniors & minors (both fancied for county titles/backtobacks/ ulsters) coming to inglorious ends. I wouldnt want to heap further shame on said individual/s.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 10, 2010, 11:29:19 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 02:42:29 PM
Well one way or the other Cullyhanna won't have to deal with playing Cross in the final.

I'm sure I could find someone to take a bet with ya! I fancy us very strongly. We've been going relatively well in Div 1 this year, we could have gotten second season syndrome but we held our own against some of the big teams and although we've found ourselves in a bit of a relegation fight I think we'll have enough to pull through.

Our full forward line has been hard to stop in the championship to date and I think Cullaville will struggle with that too whilst I hope we can deal with their threat up front. Few of my trasna mates would be high rolling gamblers so I'm sure we could strike a deal!

It's nice to hear you saying something constructive for a change.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 10, 2010, 01:07:51 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 10, 2010, 11:29:19 AM
Quote from: Sam of the Sarsfields on September 09, 2010, 02:42:29 PM
Well one way or the other Cullyhanna won't have to deal with playing Cross in the final.

I'm sure I could find someone to take a bet with ya! I fancy us very strongly. We've been going relatively well in Div 1 this year, we could have gotten second season syndrome but we held our own against some of the big teams and although we've found ourselves in a bit of a relegation fight I think we'll have enough to pull through.

Our full forward line has been hard to stop in the championship to date and I think Cullaville will struggle with that too whilst I hope we can deal with their threat up front. Few of my trasna mates would be high rolling gamblers so I'm sure we could strike a deal!

It's nice to hear you saying something constructive for a change.

I feel so vindicated now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 10, 2010, 02:48:21 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on September 09, 2010, 08:19:02 PM
gettin bored of this talk bout where it should be played,,and who mentioned the marshes??? thats crap,taking our county final to another county,especially down.i would be in favour of a neutral ground but who cares,the best team should come through in the end..how many times were dublin turned over and spanked in croker in recent years..lol ;D

Technically the Marshes is in Armagh!  8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 10, 2010, 04:50:31 PM
Only half of Pairc Esler is in Armagh, so if Cross get to the final we can play seven a side in the Armagh part of the field. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on September 10, 2010, 07:07:59 PM

About 2/3 i think... 10 aside
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 10, 2010, 10:14:39 PM
Ballymacnab beat St Peters tonight in Div 2

2-15
2-07

Nab have won the league, heading for top flight football next season, few pints tonight in o tooles
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 10, 2010, 11:06:45 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 10, 2010, 10:14:39 PM
Ballymacnab beat St Peters tonight in Div 2

2-15
2-07

Nab have won the league, heading for top flight football next season, few pints tonight in o tooles

Well done the Nab!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 11, 2010, 11:13:32 AM
Of the opinion myself that is is a disgrace that the final is held in Cross given the fact that Cross are almost certainly in the final each year. But i don't think this is the fault of cross. It is the fault of the disastrous county board. Having played against cross in cross on a county final day these are the wee advantages they gained before throw in. They didn't have to travel to the game so they could come down at their leisure where as we had an hours drive in a bus (a nice one at that lol) They had the benefit of their own changing rooms and surroundings and of course they were playing on the pitch they train and play on all year so anyone who says it isn't an advantage is way of the mark. But as i say it is out of the hands of cross and sole responsibilitiy should lie with the county board.

Just another little small point BC the development of Davitt is funded by the members of our club and through governmental sports grants. The CB are no longer the big chiefs of Davitt. It is the available funding that will be holding up Davitt and not the CB.  I think the less decisions they have to make the better . Have to say though the pitch is coming along well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 11, 2010, 12:35:00 PM
Davitt park is now the sole responsibility of the Clans and not the CB - so county teams will just have to find a new training pitch!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on September 11, 2010, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 11, 2010, 11:13:32 AM
Just another little small point BC the development of Davitt is funded by the members of our club and through governmental sports grants.

Does the redevelopment include spectator facilities and if so, is it envisaged that these would be up to County standard? Any further details about the nature of the development planned, timescales etc?

Davitt Park has been out of the loop for too long when it comes to National League matches.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 11, 2010, 03:06:48 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on September 11, 2010, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 11, 2010, 11:13:32 AM
Just another little small point BC the development of Davitt is funded by the members of our club and through governmental sports grants.

Does the redevelopment include spectator facilities and if so, is it envisaged that these would be up to County standard? Any further details about the nature of the development planned, timescales etc?

Davitt Park has been out of the loop for too long when it comes to National League matches.

Rufus the 1st phase is the new pitch with the stadium to follow, with a bit of luck this will follow next year but Nelson McCausland will call that but TBH the way the economy is going it will be touch and go if it happens next year (fingers crossed) but when it does happen it will have roughly 850 seats and provision for about 50 disabled areas within the stands. The total capacity would be around 9000 when complete with all new turnstyles and a complete revamp of Davitt Park. The new pitch has been redone completely with state of the art drainage and surface. There is 4 new lighting columns in each corner of the ground very similar to the Athletic Grounds lights (probably a grade below them but up to county standard. 500 lux) as well as a new 3G playing surface 40m x 35m behind the existing clubhouse and a similar size grassed area along side that also for warm ups training etc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on September 11, 2010, 03:48:45 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 11, 2010, 03:06:48 PM
Rufus the 1st phase is the new pitch with the stadium to follow, with a bit of luck this will follow next year but Nelson McCausland will call that but TBH the way the economy is going it will be touch and go if it happens next year (fingers crossed) but when it does happen it will have roughly 850 seats and provision for about 50 disabled areas within the stands. The total capacity would be around 9000 when complete with all new turnstyles and a complete revamp of Davitt Park. The new pitch has been redone completely with state of the art drainage and surface. There is 4 new lighting columns in each corner of the ground very similar to the Athletic Grounds lights (probably a grade below them but up to county standard. 500 lux) as well as a new 3G playing surface 40m x 35m behind the existing clubhouse and a similar size grassed area along side that also for warm ups training etc.

Thanks for that - very interesting. Hope it all goes well!!   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 11, 2010, 06:24:10 PM
Any news on the junior semi finals?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 11, 2010, 06:41:00 PM
Tullysaran winning by 5 points at the minute
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 11, 2010, 08:52:03 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 11, 2010, 06:24:10 PM
Any news on the junior semi finals?

Tullysaran won by 7 and Grange won by a good few as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on September 12, 2010, 10:40:27 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 11, 2010, 12:35:00 PM
Davitt park is now the sole responsibility of the Clans and not the CB - so county teams will just have to find a new training pitch!

You are incorrect yet again Ivedecided- the county board will have use of the pitch for training- its part of the 99 year lease agreement and they still have input into davitt park field commitee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 12, 2010, 12:54:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 11, 2010, 03:06:48 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on September 11, 2010, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 11, 2010, 11:13:32 AM
Just another little small point BC the development of Davitt is funded by the members of our club and through governmental sports grants.

Does the redevelopment include spectator facilities and if so, is it envisaged that these would be up to County standard? Any further details about the nature of the development planned, timescales etc?

Davitt Park has been out of the loop for too long when it comes to National League matches.

Rufus the 1st phase is the new pitch with the stadium to follow, with a bit of luck this will follow next year but Nelson McCausland will call that but TBH the way the economy is going it will be touch and go if it happens next year (fingers crossed) but when it does happen it will have roughly 850 seats and provision for about 50 disabled areas within the stands. The total capacity would be around 9000 when complete with all new turnstyles and a complete revamp of Davitt Park. The new pitch has been redone completely with state of the art drainage and surface. There is 4 new lighting columns in each corner of the ground very similar to the Athletic Grounds lights (probably a grade below them but up to county standard. 500 lux) as well as a new 3G playing surface 40m x 35m behind the existing clubhouse and a similar size grassed area along side that also for warm ups training etc.

Not that I don't admire the ambition of the project but is there any real need for a 9,000 capacity stadium in Lurgan?

How often will be it filled?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on September 12, 2010, 03:26:22 PM

The Ogs beat the clans today by 6 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 12, 2010, 03:55:20 PM
Division1 Cross beat Killeavy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 12, 2010, 06:07:36 PM
QuoteDivision1 Cross beat Killeavy.

The shocks keep on coming...........   :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardchieftain on September 12, 2010, 06:24:24 PM
Does anyone know any Division 2 results from today ? Davitts match with Newtown was called off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 12, 2010, 06:34:08 PM
I hear mr j p donnelly was at his work again today and put one of the clans lads in hospital.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 12, 2010, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 12, 2010, 12:54:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 11, 2010, 03:06:48 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on September 11, 2010, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 11, 2010, 11:13:32 AM
Just another little small point BC the development of Davitt is funded by the members of our club and through governmental sports grants.

Does the redevelopment include spectator facilities and if so, is it envisaged that these would be up to County standard? Any further details about the nature of the development planned, timescales etc?

Davitt Park has been out of the loop for too long when it comes to National League matches.

Rufus the 1st phase is the new pitch with the stadium to follow, with a bit of luck this will follow next year but Nelson McCausland will call that but TBH the way the economy is going it will be touch and go if it happens next year (fingers crossed) but when it does happen it will have roughly 850 seats and provision for about 50 disabled areas within the stands. The total capacity would be around 9000 when complete with all new turnstyles and a complete revamp of Davitt Park. The new pitch has been redone completely with state of the art drainage and surface. There is 4 new lighting columns in each corner of the ground very similar to the Athletic Grounds lights (probably a grade below them but up to county standard. 500 lux) as well as a new 3G playing surface 40m x 35m behind the existing clubhouse and a similar size grassed area along side that also for warm ups training etc.

Not that I don't admire the ambition of the project but is there any real need for a 9,000 capacity stadium in Lurgan?

How often will be it filled?
How would there be any more need for a stadium that size in say, Crossmaglen? I would like to think NFL and at the very least McKenna Cup games be played at Davitt when it is finished. Maybe even a venue for SFC finals say when a certain Rangers team are involved? Also considering Lurgan is a lot more accessible than most places it could possibly hold college games etc.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 12, 2010, 06:47:11 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 12, 2010, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 12, 2010, 12:54:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 11, 2010, 03:06:48 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on September 11, 2010, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 11, 2010, 11:13:32 AM
Just another little small point BC the development of Davitt is funded by the members of our club and through governmental sports grants.

Does the redevelopment include spectator facilities and if so, is it envisaged that these would be up to County standard? Any further details about the nature of the development planned, timescales etc?

Davitt Park has been out of the loop for too long when it comes to National League matches.

Rufus the 1st phase is the new pitch with the stadium to follow, with a bit of luck this will follow next year but Nelson McCausland will call that but TBH the way the economy is going it will be touch and go if it happens next year (fingers crossed) but when it does happen it will have roughly 850 seats and provision for about 50 disabled areas within the stands. The total capacity would be around 9000 when complete with all new turnstyles and a complete revamp of Davitt Park. The new pitch has been redone completely with state of the art drainage and surface. There is 4 new lighting columns in each corner of the ground very similar to the Athletic Grounds lights (probably a grade below them but up to county standard. 500 lux) as well as a new 3G playing surface 40m x 35m behind the existing clubhouse and a similar size grassed area along side that also for warm ups training etc.

Not that I don't admire the ambition of the project but is there any real need for a 9,000 capacity stadium in Lurgan?

How often will be it filled?
How would there be any more need for a stadium that size in say, Crossmaglen? I would like to think NFL and at the very least McKenna Cup games be played at Davitt when it is finished. Maybe even a venue for SFC finals say when a certain Rangers team are involved? Also considering Lurgan is a lot more accessible than most places it could possibly hold college games etc.

My own view would be that all the NFL matches should be in the Athletic Grounds, as should all county finals after this year. Perhaps spread the two McKenna Cup matches between Cross and Lurgan fair enough but you're talking a couple of thousand maximum at those games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 12, 2010, 06:53:53 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 12, 2010, 06:47:11 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 12, 2010, 06:40:49 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 12, 2010, 12:54:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 11, 2010, 03:06:48 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on September 11, 2010, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 11, 2010, 11:13:32 AM
Just another little small point BC the development of Davitt is funded by the members of our club and through governmental sports grants.

Does the redevelopment include spectator facilities and if so, is it envisaged that these would be up to County standard? Any further details about the nature of the development planned, timescales etc?

Davitt Park has been out of the loop for too long when it comes to National League matches.

Rufus the 1st phase is the new pitch with the stadium to follow, with a bit of luck this will follow next year but Nelson McCausland will call that but TBH the way the economy is going it will be touch and go if it happens next year (fingers crossed) but when it does happen it will have roughly 850 seats and provision for about 50 disabled areas within the stands. The total capacity would be around 9000 when complete with all new turnstyles and a complete revamp of Davitt Park. The new pitch has been redone completely with state of the art drainage and surface. There is 4 new lighting columns in each corner of the ground very similar to the Athletic Grounds lights (probably a grade below them but up to county standard. 500 lux) as well as a new 3G playing surface 40m x 35m behind the existing clubhouse and a similar size grassed area along side that also for warm ups training etc.

Not that I don't admire the ambition of the project but is there any real need for a 9,000 capacity stadium in Lurgan?

How often will be it filled?
How would there be any more need for a stadium that size in say, Crossmaglen? I would like to think NFL and at the very least McKenna Cup games be played at Davitt when it is finished. Maybe even a venue for SFC finals say when a certain Rangers team are involved? Also considering Lurgan is a lot more accessible than most places it could possibly hold college games etc.

My own view would be that all the NFL matches should be in the Athletic Grounds, as should all county finals after this year. Perhaps spread the two McKenna Cup matches between Cross and Lurgan fair enough but you're talking a couple of thousand maximum at those games.
I disgaree. IMO all county games should be rotated between the three. County finals granted should remain in the city.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 12, 2010, 07:26:07 PM
Any result from the Mullaghbawn game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 12, 2010, 07:28:52 PM
How did cuchulianns get on?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 12, 2010, 07:32:35 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 12, 2010, 07:28:52 PM
How did cuchulianns get on?

Beat by 4 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 12, 2010, 07:40:01 PM
ah ballix.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 12, 2010, 07:48:50 PM

ACL Division 1: St Patrick's 1-16 Carrickcruppen 1-12

The  senior side fielded a somewhat experimental line-up on Sunday evening at home to Carrickcruppen as a number of fringe players were given their opportunity to impress. With a number of new faces, it took Cullyhanna some time to settle as Cruppen kicked four of the first five points, with the sole St Pat's reply coming from Eoin McArdle after a great burst out of defence. St Pat's slowly worked their way back into the match during the second quarter as Barry McConville kicked a fine point after good play from Eugene Casey and Kieran Hoey before Aidan Mackin injected some impetus into a slow build-up by kicking a good score. Tony Donnelly then levelled matters with a superb point but two Carrickcruppen points put them back in the lead. Tony Donnelly kicked another excellent point to put the minimum between the sides before Cruppen pointed a free. Kieran Hoey then played a magnificently weighted pass into space which released Eugene Casey who was very unfortunate to see his fisted effort come back off the crossbar. Eugene  converted a late free to leave the half-time score - St Patrick's 0-6 Carrickcruppen 0-7

Having introduced a number of experienced substitutes at the break, St Pat's started the half in fine fettle fully intent on taking the game to the Camlough men. Kieran Hoey brought the sides level with a long range score. St Pat's went in front for the first time when Liam O'Hare pointed after a Mal Mackin pass. Cruppen levelled matters with a free but points from Kieran Hoey and an excellent score from Barry McConville put St Pat's back into the ascendancy. By this stage Cullyhanna were beginning to dominate at midfield and three pointed frees, one from Casey and two by Robbie Tasker gave them a decent lead.

The highlight of the match came soon after when a well-placed Mal Mackin kick found Robbie Tasker whose superb effort from the touchline with the outside of the boot sailed over the bar. The game was over a contest minutes later when an excellent team move involving Barry McConville, Tony Donnelly and Kieran Hoey ended with Tasker putting the ball in the net from close range. Seven points ahead, St Pat's never looked like surrendering their lead as Robbie Tasker added another point. To their credit, Cruppen rallied in the latter stages with two pointed frees. Cullyhanna's final point came when Ciaran McKeever kicked a relieving ball out of defence to Kieran Hoey who found Tasker expertly. The ball was kicked over the bar for a magnificent score in which defence was turned into a point with only two kicks of the ball. A magnificent Cruppen goal finished the match but St Pat's were worthy winners on a scoreline of St Patrick's 1-16 Carrickcruppen 1-12.

While this match was not exactly a crucial fixture, winning is always a good habit, particularly with such an important match ahead. This was a useful workout with a number of inexperienced players getting some game-time, including Anton McCooey who made his senior debut. Best on the day for St Pat's were Stephen Reel, Eoin McArdle, Kieran Hoey and Tony Donnelly.

ACL Division 4: St Patrick's II v Clady

The Seconds side travelled to Clady on Sunday afternoon to face the home side in what turned out to be a rather one-sided encounter. The visitors started brightly with Brendan Nugent kicking the opening score. Clady soon got into match and kicked three points without reply before an excellent Brendan Nugent effort from the right hand sideline put Cullyhanna back within the minimum. Unfortunately Clady dominated the rest of the half as they took control around the middle sector and led 1-6 to 0-2 at the break.

St Pat's responded well initially in the second half with Patsy McKeever kicking a fine score but some shaky defensive play and a tendency to squander possession added to some fine Clady attacking play meant that the home side were soon out of sight on the scoreboard. The game was over as a contest long before Patsy McKeever gained some measure of consolation by firing a shot into the top corner of the net following a good team move involving Miceal Connolly.

Unfortunately this was a very poor performance characterised by sloppy passing and a complete reluctance to attempt to score. Despite the battling performances of Kevin Toner and Peter Loughran, there were few positives to take from this display and the side will hopefully be determined to improve in their final few fixtures.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: no.1 fan on September 12, 2010, 08:58:16 PM
was the hurlin final on today. if so does anyone know who won
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on September 12, 2010, 09:13:17 PM
Not a big hurling fan but was at county final today. Keady won 13 - 9. The Keady no.7 was sent off on two yellows in the second and Cuchulainns took over and had enough chances to win. The greater experience and guile carried Keady through. Declan Coulter hit a post late on and also had one saved by the keeper.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 12, 2010, 09:25:24 PM
Quote from: gaapunter on September 12, 2010, 10:40:27 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 11, 2010, 12:35:00 PM
Davitt park is now the sole responsibility of the Clans and not the CB - so county teams will just have to find a new training pitch!

You are incorrect yet again Ivedecided- the county board will have use of the pitch for training- its part of the 99 year lease agreement and they still have input into davitt park field commitee

Sorry to burst your bubble there saan but the county team will not be allowed to train at Davitt Park...fact.However, they can play a game there when they want providing we're not at home...fact
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 12, 2010, 09:35:03 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 12, 2010, 06:34:08 PM
I hear mr j p donnelly was at his work again today and put one of the clans lads in hospital.

Yes sir, JP was at it again. I thought I'd seen it all in all my years of playing senior football but what JP done today was disgraceful, the man was running about the field like a lunatic and a time bomb waiting to explode. He's a big man beating young lads or other fellas who wouldn't hit him back but i wonder would he be so brave to mix it with a guy his own size willing to go toe to toe with him...

In Fairness to the rest of the Ogs lads they agreed it was disgraceful behaviour and said he was a nut case, they wished the lad well afterwards.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 12, 2010, 09:58:07 PM
If he was a team mate of mine I would tell him to head out the gate and not come back. Thugs like that have no place on a Gaelic pitch. tr**p of the highest order.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 12, 2010, 10:36:16 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 12, 2010, 12:54:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 11, 2010, 03:06:48 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on September 11, 2010, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 11, 2010, 11:13:32 AM
Just another little small point BC the development of Davitt is funded by the members of our club and through governmental sports grants.

Does the redevelopment include spectator facilities and if so, is it envisaged that these would be up to County standard? Any further details about the nature of the development planned, timescales etc?

Davitt Park has been out of the loop for too long when it comes to National League matches.

Rufus the 1st phase is the new pitch with the stadium to follow, with a bit of luck this will follow next year but Nelson McCausland will call that but TBH the way the economy is going it will be touch and go if it happens next year (fingers crossed) but when it does happen it will have roughly 850 seats and provision for about 50 disabled areas within the stands. The total capacity would be around 9000 when complete with all new turnstyles and a complete revamp of Davitt Park. The new pitch has been redone completely with state of the art drainage and surface. There is 4 new lighting columns in each corner of the ground very similar to the Athletic Grounds lights (probably a grade below them but up to county standard. 500 lux) as well as a new 3G playing surface 40m x 35m behind the existing clubhouse and a similar size grassed area along side that also for warm ups training etc.

Not that I don't admire the ambition of the project but is there any real need for a 9,000 capacity stadium in Lurgan?

How often will be it filled?


Why does it need to be filled all the time?? And why is there more of a need for one in Cross?? Lurgan is 10 times the size of Cross!! For 60 years Davitt park was host to all sorts of matches form college games to championship games, national league games, ulster club games etc etc. Its strategically placed being central to most counties and has a train service! So the question is - why hasnt Lurgan had a 9,000 capacity facility long before now??? DICK
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 12, 2010, 10:40:01 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 12, 2010, 10:36:16 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 12, 2010, 12:54:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 11, 2010, 03:06:48 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on September 11, 2010, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 11, 2010, 11:13:32 AM
Just another little small point BC the development of Davitt is funded by the members of our club and through governmental sports grants.

Does the redevelopment include spectator facilities and if so, is it envisaged that these would be up to County standard? Any further details about the nature of the development planned, timescales etc?

Davitt Park has been out of the loop for too long when it comes to National League matches.

Rufus the 1st phase is the new pitch with the stadium to follow, with a bit of luck this will follow next year but Nelson McCausland will call that but TBH the way the economy is going it will be touch and go if it happens next year (fingers crossed) but when it does happen it will have roughly 850 seats and provision for about 50 disabled areas within the stands. The total capacity would be around 9000 when complete with all new turnstyles and a complete revamp of Davitt Park. The new pitch has been redone completely with state of the art drainage and surface. There is 4 new lighting columns in each corner of the ground very similar to the Athletic Grounds lights (probably a grade below them but up to county standard. 500 lux) as well as a new 3G playing surface 40m x 35m behind the existing clubhouse and a similar size grassed area along side that also for warm ups training etc.

Not that I don't admire the ambition of the project but is there any real need for a 9,000 capacity stadium in Lurgan?

How often will be it filled?


Why does it need to be filled all the time?? And why is there more of a need for one in Cross?? Lurgan is 10 times the size of Cross!! For 60 years Davitt park was host to all sorts of matches form college games to championship games, national league games, ulster club games etc etc. Its strategically placed being central to most counties and has a train service! So the question is - why hasnt Lurgan had a 9,000 capacity facility long before now??? DICK

It doesn't need to be filled all the time. What I'm wondering is, will it ever be filled given that the only matches within Armagh likely to attract crowds of more than 5,000, i.e. NFL fixtures and County finals, would appear to be ear-marked for the Athletic Grounds in Armagh for the considerable future?

And the manner in which you express says much more about you than it does about me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on September 12, 2010, 10:50:20 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 12, 2010, 09:35:03 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 12, 2010, 06:34:08 PM
I hear mr j p donnelly was at his work again today and put one of the clans lads in hospital.

Yes sir, JP was at it again. I thought I'd seen it all in all my years of playing senior football but what JP done today was disgraceful, the man was running about the field like a lunatic and a time bomb waiting to explode. He's a big man beating young lads or other fellas who wouldn't hit him back but i wonder would he be so brave to mix it with a guy his own size willing to go toe to toe with him...

In Fairness to the rest of the Ogs lads they agreed it was disgraceful behaviour and said he was a nut case, they wished the lad well afterwards.

Who did he hit from the Clans? Are they ok?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 12, 2010, 11:02:55 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 12, 2010, 10:40:01 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 12, 2010, 10:36:16 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 12, 2010, 12:54:15 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 11, 2010, 03:06:48 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on September 11, 2010, 02:53:09 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 11, 2010, 11:13:32 AM
Just another little small point BC the development of Davitt is funded by the members of our club and through governmental sports grants.

Does the redevelopment include spectator facilities and if so, is it envisaged that these would be up to County standard? Any further details about the nature of the development planned, timescales etc?

Davitt Park has been out of the loop for too long when it comes to National League matches.

Rufus the 1st phase is the new pitch with the stadium to follow, with a bit of luck this will follow next year but Nelson McCausland will call that but TBH the way the economy is going it will be touch and go if it happens next year (fingers crossed) but when it does happen it will have roughly 850 seats and provision for about 50 disabled areas within the stands. The total capacity would be around 9000 when complete with all new turnstyles and a complete revamp of Davitt Park. The new pitch has been redone completely with state of the art drainage and surface. There is 4 new lighting columns in each corner of the ground very similar to the Athletic Grounds lights (probably a grade below them but up to county standard. 500 lux) as well as a new 3G playing surface 40m x 35m behind the existing clubhouse and a similar size grassed area along side that also for warm ups training etc.

Not that I don't admire the ambition of the project but is there any real need for a 9,000 capacity stadium in Lurgan?

How often will be it filled?


Why does it need to be filled all the time?? And why is there more of a need for one in Cross?? Lurgan is 10 times the size of Cross!! For 60 years Davitt park was host to all sorts of matches form college games to championship games, national league games, ulster club games etc etc. Its strategically placed being central to most counties and has a train service! So the question is - why hasnt Lurgan had a 9,000 capacity facility long before now??? DICK

It doesn't need to be filled all the time. What I'm wondering is, will it ever be filled given that the only matches within Armagh likely to attract crowds of more than 5,000, i.e. NFL fixtures and County finals, would appear to be ear-marked for the Athletic Grounds in Armagh for the considerable future?

And the manner in which you express says much more about you than it does about me.


Oh take that back right now!!

I know what your saying but who cares if its never filled it will be there if its ever needed. It will maybe be used for ulster club finals etc and maybe the odd championship game. I know the athletic grounds is the main pitch and im glad it is. It means Davitt is ours!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Mack the finger on September 13, 2010, 03:33:36 AM
Great Win for Keady. Dug deep and got the result.
Cuchulianns played well in the last 15 minutes but greater experience and nerve
from Keady got them through. Mcshane and Burke were
stand outs for Keady. Good to see a decent crowd at
a county final poorly advertised (as usual) from the county
board. Cuchulianns haven't won a championship in 21 years
but are improving all the time and should be contesting again
next year. Good contest but An Céide abu!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on September 13, 2010, 09:55:20 AM
I wasn't at the match but i was having a few pints last night with a fella who was playing against the Og's yesterday and he said what JP Donnelly done yesterday would have resulted in arrest and prison if he'd have done that out in the street. Now from what i hear this man has been sent off at least 2-3 times a season every season and i think it's time the county board banned this thug from games until he learns to control himself.

The clans man told me JP got his fill of it against a Clans man last year in Davitt Park and didn't go back looking more so maybe he's just a bully and likes to pick on vulnerable lads who's not going to bust him back, he also said when the Og's men were breaking it up he heard one of the OG's guys saying "F**k i thought he was going to hit me too" what sort of ballbag is he.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 13, 2010, 10:11:28 AM


This lad has been a p***k as long as I can remember playing against him (Harps & Ogs) he takes the field in the complete wrong mindset and often is throwing his fists about early doors without provocation. Armagh division 1 football has always had its unsavoury charachters, but this lad is dangerous and will hurt some young lad someday unless hes dealt with at board level and by his club who should make an example of him. He was also abusive to his own players and the management. A f**king idiot let the truth be told. (I hope he reads this)

He had ample opportunity yesterday to hit out at some of our bigger lads especially since one or two of them let him know they were about, but he didnt, chosing to mouth at them instead. Then he punches one of the most fragile lads on the park at least 6-8 times in the face. What a hero!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Piarsaigh Oga on September 13, 2010, 11:05:57 AM
I am definetly not condoning the actions of JP yesterday, seen the incident from the sideline but wat ur sayin tho about hitting the smallest and weakest lad on the clan na gael team is completely untrue, considering the lad was abot 6'3 and 14stone, and your also saying he wouldnt hit one of the bigger men from clans...y did they not go in and break up...clearly they were a little intimated by JP,they let their team mate take the punches!!
There was absolutely no need for the actions of JP dont get me wrong, it should never of happened...to be honest that was his first red card of the season as well...however fully deserved from what i could see!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 13, 2010, 11:09:06 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 13, 2010, 10:11:28 AM


This lad has been a p***k as long as I can remember playing against him (Harps & Ogs) he takes the field in the complete wrong mindset and often is throwing his fists about early doors without provocation. Armagh division 1 football has always had its unsavoury charachters, but this lad is dangerous and will hurt some young lad someday unless hes dealt with at board level and by his club who should make an example of him. He was also abusive to his own players and the management. A f**king idiot let the truth be told. (I hope he reads this)

He had ample opportunity yesterday to hit out at some of our bigger lads especially since one or two of them let him know they were about, but he didnt, chosing to mouth at them instead. Then he punches one of the most fragile lads on the park at least 6-8 times in the face. What a hero!

Yes agree with most of your post and that JP Donnelly guy needs a taste of his own medicine but the Clans man that got hit is by no means fragile, he's 6'1" and has been playing senior football for about 7-8 years now and is well capable of defending himself on the field the problem is when a guy attacks you and you have your arms down by your side and you don't know it's coming then you have no chance whatsoever too defend yourself and thats what happened yesterday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 13, 2010, 11:13:34 AM
Quote from: Piarsaigh Oga on September 13, 2010, 11:05:57 AM
I am definetly not condoning the actions of JP yesterday, seen the incident from the sideline but wat ur sayin tho about hitting the smallest and weakest lad on the clan na gael team is completely untrue, considering the lad was abot 6'3 and 14stone, and your also saying he wouldnt hit one of the bigger men from clans...y did they not go in and break up...clearly they were a little intimated by JP,they let their team mate take the punches!!
There was absolutely no need for the actions of JP dont get me wrong, it should never of happened...to be honest that was his first red card of the season as well...however fully deserved from what i could see!!!

You're 100% right although not about the 14 stone bit :D (he wishes). But yes the Og's men actually went in and helped the Clans man from the beating and as you say there were not too many in a blue jersey in helping him out from what i seen the two closest to him were 2 men not even stripped out trying to help out.

you clearly state that was his 1st of the season but what about the 3 red cards from last year and whatever reds he'd got previous to that ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Piarsaigh Oga on September 13, 2010, 11:26:27 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 13, 2010, 11:13:34 AM
Quote from: Piarsaigh Oga on September 13, 2010, 11:05:57 AM
I am definetly not condoning the actions of JP yesterday, seen the incident from the sideline but wat ur sayin tho about hitting the smallest and weakest lad on the clan na gael team is completely untrue, considering the lad was abot 6'3 and 14stone, and your also saying he wouldnt hit one of the bigger men from clans...y did they not go in and break up...clearly they were a little intimated by JP,they let their team mate take the punches!!
There was absolutely no need for the actions of JP dont get me wrong, it should never of happened...to be honest that was his first red card of the season as well...however fully deserved from what i could see!!!

You're 100% right although not about the 14 stone bit :D (he wishes). But yes the Og's men actually went in and helped the Clans man from the beating and as you say there were not too many in a blue jersey in helping him out from what i seen the two closest to him were 2 men not even stripped out trying to help out.

you clearly state that was his 1st of the season but what about the 3 red cards from last year and whatever reds he'd got previous to that ???

Yes true enough JPs not exactly had uneventful last few years regarding red cards, however the lad is always targeted now by rival teams in order to try and intimidate him to get him sent off,i.e looking for a reaction...which he had kept under control all year, and to be fair to him though he has had an unbelievable year this year! probably the ogs best and most consistent player all season!
If he is able to control his temper i thruely believe that he would walk on to the armagh team no problem at that!

But from another point hope the lads is ok!

Also witnessed a coupla of senior players and management from clans wait until JP walked past them and literally until he got to the other side of the pitch before they started to shouut vulger abuse at him!! could they not of done this when hes was closer to them..i.e walking past them on the sideline, when JP would have heard them!! ??? ???  I dont think so!!  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 13, 2010, 11:58:57 AM
Quote from: Piarsaigh Oga on September 13, 2010, 11:26:27 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 13, 2010, 11:13:34 AM
Quote from: Piarsaigh Oga on September 13, 2010, 11:05:57 AM
I am definetly not condoning the actions of JP yesterday, seen the incident from the sideline but wat ur sayin tho about hitting the smallest and weakest lad on the clan na gael team is completely untrue, considering the lad was abot 6'3 and 14stone, and your also saying he wouldnt hit one of the bigger men from clans...y did they not go in and break up...clearly they were a little intimated by JP,they let their team mate take the punches!!
There was absolutely no need for the actions of JP dont get me wrong, it should never of happened...to be honest that was his first red card of the season as well...however fully deserved from what i could see!!!

You're 100% right although not about the 14 stone bit :D (he wishes). But yes the Og's men actually went in and helped the Clans man from the beating and as you say there were not too many in a blue jersey in helping him out from what i seen the two closest to him were 2 men not even stripped out trying to help out.

you clearly state that was his 1st of the season but what about the 3 red cards from last year and whatever reds he'd got previous to that ???

Yes true enough JPs not exactly had uneventful last few years regarding red cards, however the lad is always targeted now by rival teams in order to try and intimidate him to get him sent off,i.e looking for a reaction...which he had kept under control all year, and to be fair to him though he has had an unbelievable year this year! probably the ogs best and most consistent player all season!
If he is able to control his temper i thruely believe that he would walk on to the armagh team no problem at that!

But from another point hope the lads is ok!

Also witnessed a coupla of senior players and management from clans wait until JP walked past them and literally until he got to the other side of the pitch before they started to shouut vulger abuse at him!! could they not of done this when hes was closer to them..i.e walking past them on the sideline, when JP would have heard them!! ??? ???  I dont think so!!  :P

Clearly he can't control it and as for the men shouting and waiting until he was at the other side of the field well that's my point exactly
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 13, 2010, 12:02:34 PM
One last point to make as i think this has now run it's course but i'd like to see JP's reaction if someone was to confront him in Lurgan where he's working and see would he be so keen to jump out of his mini digger and bust all round him there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 13, 2010, 01:03:06 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 13, 2010, 12:02:34 PM
One last point to make as i think this has now run it's course but i'd like to see JP's reaction if someone was to confront him in Lurgan where he's working and see would he be so keen to jump out of his mini digger and bust all round him there.

Let us know how ye get on...  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 13, 2010, 03:15:17 PM
Piarsaigh Oga you start of by saying you are not condoning Donnellys actions but then you go on to do just that. What does it mater that no clans men backed him up (they were probably in shock) and what does it matter that people waited till he had passed to shout at him. The fact is he put a lad in hospital badly damaging his ribs and requiring stitches to the face.

The lad in question maybe 6ft 1 but he is of a very slender build and certainly is a very clean cut player and placid person in general. You seem to build Donnelly up to be some sort of hero figure that everyone is afraid of. I really don't know where this is coming from as he has never done anything special in any of the games i have witnessed. That is of course nothing construstive, he has thrown the back handers and the sneeky digs. You mention playing for Armagh, this is an absolute joke in itself. Imagine having the likes of him as a role model for children to look up to.

I have said this before and clearly the county board missed their chance to send out a clear message with the Nugent incident(with the silly sentence they imposed) hardly fitting for the crime. although the severity of the injuries are less i would have this guy up in court for a barabaric attack. This type of behaviour is unacceptable on the street never mind on the field of play. It is not about threatening people or me looking to fight him or anyone else for that matter it is about dignity, respect and manners of which this guy is clearly lacking in all departments. His club should take matters into theri own hands and send him down the road to cage fighting or some other thing where he can maybe be constructive.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 13, 2010, 04:34:36 PM
I'm all for good hard hitting football but what happened yesterday was a disgrace. 100% unprovoked and our player simply didnt expect it. Easily one of the most unsavoury incidents i've witnessed in a game of football.  It took away from what was a good attacking game between both teams. I seriously hope he gets a ban though I won't hold my breath. There wasn't so much as a tick issued against any other player the whole match which shows the spirit in which the other players on both sides wished to play in. As for Donnelly playing for Armagh, thought he had his chance but walked out?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Any craic on September 13, 2010, 05:49:10 PM
Watch St Galls win over St Johns - http://vimeo.com/14931719 (http://vimeo.com/14931719)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 14, 2010, 06:08:18 AM


Id rather eat my own face ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 14, 2010, 10:38:53 AM
Donnelly always behaves himself against Cross and Cullyhanna. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 14, 2010, 11:04:08 AM

Who'd be putting manners on him for cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on September 14, 2010, 11:57:52 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 14, 2010, 10:38:53 AM
Donnelly always behaves himself against Cross and Cullyhanna. ;)

Ach now crossfire that's a bit childish, what are you trying to state. That you men up there are harder and how dare anyone hit you :D Wise up. JP Donnelly busted R Kelly last year too and JP is still alive (it was another cowardly attack on a young fella)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 14, 2010, 12:48:42 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on September 14, 2010, 11:57:52 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 14, 2010, 10:38:53 AM
Donnelly always behaves himself against Cross and Cullyhanna. ;)

Ach now crossfire that's a bit childish, what are you trying to state. That you men up there are harder and how dare anyone hit you :D Wise up. JP Donnelly busted R Kelly last year too and JP is still alive (it was another cowardly attack on a young fella)

That's lies. Kelly was giving as good as he got that day
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on September 14, 2010, 01:38:37 PM
JP's a wild man for sure...very lucky to not get sent off against Granemore - got yella for a heavy tackle on Benny Rafferty then hit a guy a box in face in front of linesmen - dunno how he got away with that one...am surprised Clans fellas stood and watched - thats not the best....it never matters how tough a fella is on football field when the free for all starts - anyone can fell you and you may not even know a thing about it...Clans should have evened the score I think...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on September 14, 2010, 02:29:26 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 14, 2010, 12:48:42 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on September 14, 2010, 11:57:52 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 14, 2010, 10:38:53 AM
Donnelly always behaves himself against Cross and Cullyhanna. ;)

Ach now crossfire that's a bit childish, what are you trying to state. That you men up there are harder and how dare anyone hit you :D Wise up. JP Donnelly busted R Kelly last year too and JP is still alive (it was another cowardly attack on a young fella)

That's lies. Kelly was giving as good as he got that day

Well I'll take that back then as i wasn't there and you clearly were. But JP still thumped him you can't deny that and he's at it most matches, the facts don't lie and there is no defending that. Do some of you OG's players not tell him to wise up and just play football as he's not a bad footballer (not county standard but a good club player). He'd need to watch himself as the St Pats or Cross men will give him is comeuppance ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on September 14, 2010, 03:54:31 PM
He definitely needs to clean up his game - great footballer and doing well it would seem in his new role.
I don't think JP would worry about too many boys on the field - I seen him take on a couple of belfast hoods one had a machete, in the arena car park back in the day - clean mad but have all the time in the world for him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on September 14, 2010, 04:18:21 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on September 14, 2010, 03:54:31 PM
He definitely needs to clean up his game - great footballer and doing well it would seem in his new role.
I don't think JP would worry about too many boys on the field - I seen him take on a couple of belfast hoods one had a machete, in the arena car park back in the day - clean mad but have all the time in the world for him.

Where does he bury his dead :D he sounds like Chuck Norris :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on September 14, 2010, 06:15:21 PM
Aye but sure my da could beat your da
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 14, 2010, 11:13:37 PM
Does anyone know the odds for the St Pats v Maghery game this weekend
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on September 14, 2010, 11:32:34 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 14, 2010, 11:13:37 PM
Does anyone know the odds for the St Pats v Maghery game this weekend

Will probably be out closer to weekend, Friday maybe. Lump on St Pats?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on September 15, 2010, 12:04:55 PM
Fancy St Patricks myself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 15, 2010, 11:55:57 PM
st pats 5/6 maghery 6/5 in barone
8/11 and 11/8 in paddypower

depends who your backing for better value,dont wana jyux us but id fancy us slightly and it should be close enuf.
the draw for cross in the semis mite just make our boys that we bit more hungry for it on the day,hopefully..could b wrong :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 17, 2010, 10:00:55 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 10, 2010, 09:07:35 AM
I was goin easy seein as you have been embarrassed enough this past fortnight, what with seniors & minors (both fancied for county titles/backtobacks/ ulsters) coming to inglorious ends. I wouldnt want to heap further shame on said individual/s.
benny, i hav kept silent to date but i think ur own clubs record is one brag about even thou u continually do, premier city club when was ur last senior title. grow up and look after ur own club and u dont have much history from ur own playing days to slag off other players/clubs. fair play to granemore they deserved the win but ogs started without 4 of last years county final forward line due to injury and missed 16 scores to 2. we will regroup and be stronger for next year. hopefully we wont have to play on an undersized illegal pitch in the championship again ( pitch does not meet the minium width per offical guide).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mrgaa1 on September 17, 2010, 11:40:24 AM
...pitch does not meet the minium width per offical guide..... 
unbelievable gripe.  Tell me this did you take your tape and measure the distance between the posts?  Are they similar to the distance at your own pitch?   Undersized illegal pitch.  In that case why take to the field?  Why not complain in advance? 

Did you have 15 v 15 at the start?  Did you have 5 or more subs? 
Don't let yourself down by whinging about the width of the pitch?  Unbelievable, simply unbelievable  :o :o :o

Also - does your own statement not highlight the real problem ...."missed 16 scores to 2"   Next thing you'll be looking a rule change to allow wides to be counted for something  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on September 17, 2010, 12:15:27 PM
The Harps and the Og's fighting it out ;D I was going to say send JP around to sort those Harps men out but sure he is a Harps man (maybe thats why the fella is a bit nuts, changing to the enemy :D :D)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 17, 2010, 12:17:52 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 17, 2010, 10:00:55 AM
hopefully we wont have to play on an undersized illegal pitch in the championship again ( pitch does not meet the minium width per offical guide).

Sweet Divine jaysus but that's the best excuse in a long time!  Were Granemore playing on a different "undersized illegal pitch"? :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 17, 2010, 02:44:44 PM
FFS wanderer, you're letting the side down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 17, 2010, 03:00:08 PM
never was being made as an excuse just pointing out the legality of the pitch for our friend. see my previous wer i said granemore fully deserved the win. the pitch size had nothing to do with the result but im just clarifying rules.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 17, 2010, 03:03:07 PM
bc1 this is a private spat in reply to mr benny nothing to do with results. no such thing as fighting mrgaa winder.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 17, 2010, 03:10:41 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 17, 2010, 03:03:07 PM
bc1 this is a private spat in reply to mr benny nothing to do with results. no such thing as fighting mrgaa winder.

If it is a private spat, PM each other, otherwise as this is a public forum anyone can comment.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hound of ulster on September 17, 2010, 03:37:25 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 17, 2010, 10:00:55 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 10, 2010, 09:07:35 AM
I was goin easy seein as you have been embarrassed enough this past fortnight, what with seniors & minors (both fancied for county titles/backtobacks/ ulsters) coming to inglorious ends. I wouldnt want to heap further shame on said individual/s.
benny, i hav kept silent to date but i think ur own clubs record is one brag about even thou u continually do, premier city club when was ur last senior title. grow up and look after ur own club and u dont have much history from ur own playing days to slag off other players/clubs. fair play to granemore they deserved the win but ogs started without 4 of last years county final forward line due to injury and missed 16 scores to 2. we will regroup and be stronger for next year. hopefully we wont have to play on an undersized illegal pitch in the championship again ( pitch does not meet the minium width per offical guide).
we own the pitch ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 17, 2010, 04:41:07 PM
if u check ur last accounts the bank does ;) ps we own ours and dont let anyone mislead u.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 17, 2010, 08:17:27 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 17, 2010, 10:00:55 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 10, 2010, 09:07:35 AM
I was goin easy seein as you have been embarrassed enough this past fortnight, what with seniors & minors (both fancied for county titles/backtobacks/ ulsters) coming to inglorious ends. I wouldnt want to heap further shame on said individual/s.
benny, i hav kept silent to date but i think ur own clubs record is one brag about even thou u continually do, premier city club when was ur last senior title. grow up and look after ur own club and u dont have much history from ur own playing days to slag off other players/clubs. fair play to granemore they deserved the win but ogs started without 4 of last years county final forward line due to injury and missed 16 scores to 2. we will regroup and be stronger for next year. hopefully we wont have to play on an undersized illegal pitch in the championship again ( pitch does not meet the minium width per offical guide).
:D :D
The Ogs should have requested a run out in Abbey Park beforehand as you haven't been up in a while(and yes I know it's because you are in a higher division :P).  Another touch of arrogance that cost you dear.

Take the boxing gloves off next time before you type a response.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sickboy on September 17, 2010, 09:01:07 PM
have to say i laughed solid for 2 mins after readin about the old "illegal pitch" excuse.  :D :D
should bring in aussie rules scoring, might sort out your other problem about the wides.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on September 17, 2010, 11:08:47 PM
Quote from: mrgaa1 on September 17, 2010, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 17, 2010, 10:00:55 AM
benny, i hav kept silent to date but i think ur own clubs record is one brag about even thou u continually do, premier city club when was ur last senior title. grow up and look after ur own club and u dont have much history from ur own playing days to slag off other players/clubs. fair play to granemore they deserved the win but ogs started without 4 of last years county final forward line due to injury and missed 16 scores to 2. we will regroup and be stronger for next year. hopefully we wont have to play on an undersized illegal pitch in the championship again ( pitch does not meet the minium width per offical guide).

...pitch does not meet the minium width per offical guide..... 
unbelievable gripe.  Tell me this did you take your tape and measure the distance between the posts?  Are they similar to the distance at your own pitch?   Undersized illegal pitch.  In that case why take to the field?  Why not complain in advance? 

Did you have 15 v 15 at the start?  Did you have 5 or more subs? 
Don't let yourself down by whinging about the width of the pitch?  Unbelievable, simply unbelievable  :o :o :o

Also - does your own statement not highlight the real problem ...."missed 16 scores to 2"   Next thing you'll be looking a rule change to allow wides to be counted for something  ;D

:D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 18, 2010, 02:42:41 PM
Sarsfields have secured division one status as Cruppen didnt field a team. This shit should be stopped. Teams should have to earn their status on the field not by doing underhanded deals off it. If it was up to me id put Cruppen into the 4th division - then noone would ever attempt this bullshit again!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 18, 2010, 03:51:48 PM
Whitecross also secured their division 1 status earlier when they beat Pearse Ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 18, 2010, 05:05:17 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 17, 2010, 03:10:41 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on September 17, 2010, 03:03:07 PM
bc1 this is a private spat in reply to mr benny nothing to do with results. no such thing as fighting mrgaa winder.

If it is a private spat, PM each other, otherwise as this is a public forum anyone can comment.

First I've heard I'm in a spat.  Much to my own shame thewanderer used to get under my skin and get a reaction, but I've realised lately (even before his latest comedy musings :)) that he is just a cretin and not worthy of effort.  But it does shows how much he thinks of the Ogs when he hides his identity on a board where clubmen largely know their fellow clubmen and he does nothing but embarass the rest of the ogs people.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on September 18, 2010, 07:59:48 PM
see st pats won 1-9 to 0-9
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 18, 2010, 08:31:53 PM
up the pats..we made hard work of it.mc keever was immense. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: overthehill on September 18, 2010, 09:49:52 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on September 18, 2010, 08:31:53 PM
up the pats..we made hard work of it.mc keever was immense. ;D

Good win but we have fierce improving to do to the beat the Rangers!!

Wouldnt think Tony Mac will be too worried about what he seen today, which hopefully might work in our favour!

Any word of the venue of exact time/venue for semi-final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 19, 2010, 12:51:16 AM
I believe Cross v St Pats is 5pm next Sunday in Silverbridge.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: overthehill on September 19, 2010, 12:07:09 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 19, 2010, 12:51:16 AM
I believe Cross v St Pats is 5pm next Sunday in Silverbridge.

County Board never ceaces to amaze me!!  ???  What are they bringing it to that kip for? Crowd facilities are fine but the pitch is a disaster. Cruppen would have been the perdect location!!

And whats this 5 oclock business! It was 5 oclock throw in yesterday and it was near dark at half-time.  Sunday games should be at 2 oclock!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on September 19, 2010, 12:49:42 PM
Quote from: overthehill on September 19, 2010, 12:07:09 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 19, 2010, 12:51:16 AM
I believe Cross v St Pats is 5pm next Sunday in Silverbridge.

County Board never ceaces to amaze me!!  ???  What are they bringing it to that kip for? Crowd facilities are fine but the pitch is a disaster. Cruppen would have been the perdect location!!

And whats this 5 oclock business! It was 5 oclock throw in yesterday and it was near dark at half-time.  Sunday games should be at 2 oclock!!
tats a laugh comin from a cullyhanna man..u see ur pitch lately..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: overthehill on September 19, 2010, 03:53:14 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on September 19, 2010, 12:49:42 PM
Quote from: overthehill on September 19, 2010, 12:07:09 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 19, 2010, 12:51:16 AM
I believe Cross v St Pats is 5pm next Sunday in Silverbridge.

County Board never ceaces to amaze me!!  ???  What are they bringing it to that kip for? Crowd facilities are fine but the pitch is a disaster. Cruppen would have been the perdect location!!

And whats this 5 oclock business! It was 5 oclock throw in yesterday and it was near dark at half-time.  Sunday games should be at 2 oclock!!
tats a laugh comin from a cullyhanna man..u see ur pitch lately..

Ye see it all the time and its twice the pitch of that ski slope in the Bridge!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 19, 2010, 08:20:29 PM
St Pat's played well in the first half with the forwards moving well. The forwards seemed to lose their way in the second half and played with no cohension. Midfield struggled for much of the match but the defence was first class throughout. Both teams showed good discipline, there were no real incidents throughout. Have to say I've watched a fair amount of football and I don't think I've seen a better performance from a CHB than Ciaran McKeever delivered yesterday. Micky Murray was excellent throughout as well.
Sets up a clinker tie with Cross next Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 19, 2010, 09:12:05 PM
Quote from: mackers on September 19, 2010, 08:20:29 PM
St Pat's played well in the first half with the forwards moving well. The forwards seemed to lose their way in the second half and played with no cohension. Midfield struggled for much of the match but the defence was first class throughout. Both teams showed good discipline, there were no real incidents throughout. Have to say I've watched a fair amount of football and I don't think I've seen a better performance from a CHB than Ciaran McKeever delivered yesterday. Micky Murray was excellent throughout as well.
Sets up a clinker tie with Cross next Sunday.

Sure the pick of them teams wouldn't worry Cross. I'll be happy enough if we keep it kicked out to them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 20, 2010, 10:22:32 AM
Your a laugh TAC. St Pats will be going at it for the win. It will be a tough game and if there are a few points either way that will be the most.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 20, 2010, 01:04:50 PM
For once I agree with BC1 - This is a difficult game for cross. One I expect them to come through but they will def have to earn it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 20, 2010, 02:36:09 PM
Fancy Cross by at least 6 points and maybe two or three sent off. Other game i fancy Granemore by 2 or 3
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 20, 2010, 05:22:25 PM
Think Cullyhanna will give Cross plenty to think about and will no doubt lay into them. Definitely be worth going to see 30 hatchetmen going at it. Would near fancy a draw. Think Dromintee will squeeze past Granemore, last year will be fresh in their memories and also because BCB says its their year.

I take it B football has finished for the year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 20, 2010, 09:33:03 PM
cross have played lot of championship in the bridge over the past few years and never once complained . Just goes to show the difference in class between them and their upcoming opponents
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on September 20, 2010, 10:59:44 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 20, 2010, 05:22:25 PM
Think Cullyhanna will give Cross plenty to think about and will no doubt lay into them. Definitely be worth going to see 30 hatchetmen going at it. Would near fancy a draw. Think Dromintee will squeeze past Granemore, last year will be fresh in their memories and also because BCB says its their year.

I take it B football has finished for the year?

b football...i forget what that is its been that long...it finsihed for the summer before june...total joke and something radical needs to happen within our county board becasue thisand the u21 championship are started and are dragged out on a yearly basis!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: overthehill on September 21, 2010, 11:30:22 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 20, 2010, 09:33:03 PM
cross have played lot of championship in the bridge over the past few years and never once complained . Just goes to show the difference in class between them and their upcoming opponents

Not too hard to work out where your from so you would know alot about "class"!! 

I actually think playing in the Bridge will be good for cullyhanna-it might be a bit of a ground leveller as on paper Cross obviously have the far superior team.

St Pats will have to drag the Rangers down a couple of levels to even compete with them!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 21, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: overthehill on September 21, 2010, 11:30:22 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 20, 2010, 09:33:03 PM
cross have played lot of championship in the bridge over the past few years and never once complained . Just goes to show the difference in class between them and their upcoming opponents

Not too hard to work out where your from so you would know alot about "class"!! 

I actually think playing in the Bridge will be good for cullyhanna-it might be a bit of a ground leveller as on paper Cross obviously have the far superior team.

St Pats will have to drag the Rangers down a couple of levels to even compete with them!!

Is that really the case?

There are two stand out players in this game - one on each side. McKeever for Cullyhanna and Clarke for Cross.
Cross have one of the worst ball winning midfields in the county - Cullyhanna can compete with anyone there.
Cross have an advantage in paul McKeown as a specialist man marker that cross don't possess. the rest of the cross defence are good solid defenders as cullyhanna's are.

Cross will end up with about 40% possession around the middle as they did against harps so the question is if there is enough potency advantage in the cross forward line over cullyhanna's to make up for the lesser supply.

expect Jamie clarke to get the treatment and get it often
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 21, 2010, 12:40:49 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 20, 2010, 05:22:25 PM
Think Cullyhanna will give Cross plenty to think about and will no doubt lay into them. Definitely be worth going to see 30 hatchetmen going at it. Would near fancy a draw. Think Dromintee will squeeze past Granemore, last year will be fresh in their memories and also because BCB says its their year.

I take it B football has finished for the year?

i think we are playing yourselves in league semi-final fitz on sunday...couldn't tell ye time or place though, very badly organised
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 21, 2010, 04:17:21 PM
IS RONAN CLARKE STILL OUT INJURED
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 21, 2010, 06:24:18 PM
Quote from: pearseog on September 21, 2010, 12:40:49 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 20, 2010, 05:22:25 PM
Think Cullyhanna will give Cross plenty to think about and will no doubt lay into them. Definitely be worth going to see 30 hatchetmen going at it. Would near fancy a draw. Think Dromintee will squeeze past Granemore, last year will be fresh in their memories and also because BCB says its their year.

I take it B football has finished for the year?

i think we are playing yourselves in league semi-final fitz on sunday...couldn't tell ye time or place though, very badly organised

Typing this from Spain here lads so don't know the craic but is there a B fixture for this weekend?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 21, 2010, 06:30:07 PM
I think we are supposed to play Clans on Sunday.  I don't think it's official yet though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on September 21, 2010, 08:24:11 PM
Get yer hole back illdecide :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 21, 2010, 08:28:04 PM
Never mind sure you can see that thing from space!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 21, 2010, 08:56:05 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 21, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: overthehill on September 21, 2010, 11:30:22 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 20, 2010, 09:33:03 PM
cross have played lot of championship in the bridge over the past few years and never once complained . Just goes to show the difference in class between them and their upcoming opponents

Not too hard to work out where your from so you would know alot about "class"!! 

I actually think playing in the Bridge will be good for cullyhanna-it might be a bit of a ground leveller as on paper Cross obviously have the far superior team.

I

St Pats will have to drag the Rangers down a couple of levels to even compete with them!!

Is that really the case?

There are two stand out players in this game - one on each side. McKeever for Cullyhanna and Clarke for Cross.
Cross have one of the worst ball winning midfields in the county - Cullyhanna can compete with anyone there.
Cross have an advantage in paul McKeown as a specialist man marker that cross don't possess. the rest of the cross defence are good solid defenders as cullyhanna's are.

Cross will end up with about 40% possession around the middle as they did against harps so the question is if there is enough potency advantage in the cross forward line over cullyhanna's to make up for the lesser supply.

expect Jamie clarke to get the treatment and get it often

I would like to think that we have more than one stand out player at club level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 21, 2010, 10:28:21 PM

I'm sure you would. that doesn't make it so.

By stand out, i don't mean good or county standard - i mean consistently excellent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 21, 2010, 10:55:11 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 21, 2010, 10:28:21 PM

I'm sure you would. that doesn't make it so.

By stand out, i don't mean good or county standard - i mean consistently excellent.

Your assertion may not be correct either, just because you think it is.

How often have you seen Cross play this year.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 21, 2010, 10:58:13 PM
Consistently excellent? Ffs there's probably not a player in the county then that would liveup to that.
Mc Keever is without doubt a good one but he is living too close to the edge and the cross may expose this and rile him. Clarke is another animal as he can be out of a game for 50 mins and destroy you in . Overall cross have a much stronger defence and forward line. I wouldn't say cullyhanna are any big shouts around the middle so IMO cross should come home by 6 or 7. Cullyhanna will put it up to them for the first 20 then cross will take command and the game will fizzle out with St Pat's applying the treatment . The egomaniac is back lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 21, 2010, 11:17:08 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 20, 2010, 09:33:03 PM
cross have played lot of championship in the bridge over the past few years and never once complained . Just goes to show the difference in class between them and their upcoming opponents

It's nice to know that we will have at least one Bridge man supporting us on sunday.  ;)

If Pints was at home we most certainly would have two. :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 21, 2010, 11:23:31 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 21, 2010, 11:17:08 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 20, 2010, 09:33:03 PM
cross have played lot of championship in the bridge over the past few years and never once complained . Just goes to show the difference in class between them and their upcoming opponents

It's nice to know that we will have at least one Bridge man supporting us on sunday.  ;)

If Pints was at home we most certainly would have two. :D
True, I hope yous kick the f**k out of them.....

From what I'm hearing yous can't wait to have a go at them either....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 21, 2010, 11:45:45 PM
I was only joking, but it's nice to know that you're now a Rangers fan. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 22, 2010, 12:14:50 AM
wat a w**ker you are pog,we wouldnt be used 2 playing on ur hill cos we are playing top tier football in armagh,were nat complaining tho,would play a semi final anywhere,if it wasnt for us and killeavy putting in seconds teams this year yous would ave been in the 3rd div.lol.

good luck in the intermediate,yas will b stuck in it for a while u muppet..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 22, 2010, 09:17:55 AM
Quote from: 1life 1club on September 22, 2010, 12:14:50 AM
wat a w**ker you are pog,we wouldnt be used 2 playing on ur hill cos we are playing top tier football in armagh,were nat complaining tho,would play a semi final anywhere,if it wasnt for us and killeavy putting in seconds teams this year yous would ave been in the 3rd div.lol.

good luck in the intermediate,yas will b stuck in it for a while u muppet..

"And everyone loves us....."
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 22, 2010, 10:41:56 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 21, 2010, 11:23:31 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 21, 2010, 11:17:08 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 20, 2010, 09:33:03 PM
cross have played lot of championship in the bridge over the past few years and never once complained . Just goes to show the difference in class between them and their upcoming opponents

It's nice to know that we will have at least one Bridge man supporting us on sunday.  ;)

If Pints was at home we most certainly would have two. :D
True, I hope yous kick the f**k out of them.....

From what I'm hearing yous can't wait to have a go at them either....

Thus speaks the poster so appalled over the years by perceived tendancies to violence.  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 22, 2010, 10:47:08 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 22, 2010, 10:41:56 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on September 21, 2010, 11:23:31 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 21, 2010, 11:17:08 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 20, 2010, 09:33:03 PM
cross have played lot of championship in the bridge over the past few years and never once complained . Just goes to show the difference in class between them and their upcoming opponents

It's nice to know that we will have at least one Bridge man supporting us on sunday.  ;)

If Pints was at home we most certainly would have two. :D
True, I hope yous kick the f**k out of them.....

From what I'm hearing yous can't wait to have a go at them either....

Thus speaks the poster so appalled over the years by perceived tendancies to violence.  ::)
I didn't mean literally but I wouldn't worry, if there's violence I'm sure you won't see it....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: blue on September 22, 2010, 11:11:01 PM
Any word who is favourites 4da minor championship??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 23, 2010, 11:21:46 AM
I see today's Irish News suggests the St Pat's v Crossmaglen match is not taking place this weekend. I'd heard nothing about a postponement myself.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orange2009 on September 23, 2010, 12:15:39 PM
Def not this is the official word I got no later than 15 minutes ago:

http://armagh-gaa.com/Football/News/Lucozade-Sport-Senior-Championship-Fixtures-%281%29.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 23, 2010, 01:19:40 PM
Quote from: orange2009 on September 23, 2010, 12:15:39 PM
Def not this is the official word I got no later than 15 minutes ago:

http://armagh-gaa.com/Football/News/Lucozade-Sport-Senior-Championship-Fixtures-%281%29.aspx

Don't know what the Irish News were on about then. They had ana rticle in which the St Pat's Cross match was described as TBC but was scheduled for next weekend.

I suppose they just assumed that we wouldn't be playing two championship matches one weekend after the other.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 24, 2010, 12:18:00 PM
Any big predictions for the weekend?

I'd say Cross will win by 3/4 pts in a feisty affair. Much will depend on how the Cullyhanna forwards play on the day, if they click, a shock may be on the cards.
Think Granemore will pip Dromintee. Toner won't be able to dominate the midfield area the way he did against the Ogs with Dromintee having plenty of height in that sector also, will Dyas be lining out for Dromintee? Granemore have a nippy forward line though, which going by Dromintee's QF will create problems for them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 24, 2010, 02:14:46 PM
i tink granemore are a great bet at 11/10,  8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: overthehill on September 24, 2010, 02:31:37 PM
To beat the Rangers in Ibrox...........it feels as if its nearly too much to ask!!

Anyway good luck boys know yez will do the jersey proud no matter what!!

Think Dromintee will come out on top in the other semi in a very tight one.  Dromintee must be delighted how they have slipped quietly under the radar thus far...think their name could be on it this year!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on September 24, 2010, 09:54:48 PM
can anyone tell me is the pearse og game on this weekend???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 24, 2010, 10:24:11 PM
Quote from: fan01 on September 24, 2010, 09:54:48 PM
can anyone tell me is the pearse og game on this weekend???

no its off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on September 24, 2010, 11:30:51 PM
i think granemore might just beat d`tee if there forward line clicks,d`tee depend 2 much on m o`rourke to get scores if he is snuffed out they half way there.
in the other game its hard to see past cross. if st pats start the way they did against maghery they might be in with a shout but only if they can maintain that 1st 10 min pace for the most of the game.

would love 2 see a g`more v st pats final then it would give armagh football a great lift as all teams will be thinking they can win the c`ship next year and the county would be better off for it ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 25, 2010, 03:58:43 AM
 ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 25, 2010, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: wats that 4 ref on September 24, 2010, 11:30:51 PM
i think granemore might just beat d`tee if there forward line clicks,d`tee depend 2 much on m o`rourke to get scores if he is snuffed out they half way there.
in the other game its hard to see past cross. if st pats start the way they did against maghery they might be in with a shout but only if they can maintain that 1st 10 min pace for the most of the game.

would love 2 see a g`more v st pats final then it would give armagh football a great lift as all teams will be thinking they can win the c`ship next year and the county would be better off for it ;)
dromintee bt granemore by 4 .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 25, 2010, 07:36:24 PM
Dromintee worthy winners. Physically superior and well disciplined in the tackle against a disappointing G'more forward line - epected much moreform them. D'tee played well despite being down to 14 for most of the game. Felt ref favoured Granemore slightly, Dyas  (i think) hauled down in front of posts in second half, had he scored would have put 4 in it but instead G'more went up and scored to narrow it to two. One or two other similar incidents. Not a great game of football, loads of stoppages but I'm sure Dromintee care loads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 25, 2010, 08:00:29 PM
Thought Dromintee's experience was the critical difference in this game, they just exuded calm and purpose in the 2nd half were as Granemore looked panicky.  Abbey park suited Granemore down to the ground v the Ogs, but the big open spaces of Cross seemed to detract from their effectiveness today.  The Dromintee fella sent off seemed to take a swipe at the linesman (not sure if he connected), dont know what his problem was either, he looked to me to have hit out twice for his red card - deserved it.  Dromintee had the 2 most effective players in  Dyas & Micael OR and plenty of other good performers

Granemore's day is coming thou, a good young side, they could do with a bit more physical presence somewhere in the FF line.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 25, 2010, 08:06:10 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 25, 2010, 08:00:29 PM
Thought Dromintee's experience was the critical difference in this game, they just exuded calm and purpose in the 2nd half were as Granemore looked panicky.  Abbey park suited Granemore down to the ground v the Ogs, but the big open spaces of Cross seemed to detract from their effectiveness today.  The Dromintee fella sent off seemed to take a swipe at the linesman (not sure if he connected), dont know what his problem was either, he looked to me to have hit out twice for his red card - deserved it.  Dromintee had the 2 most effective players in  Dyas & Micael OR and plenty of other good performers

Granemore's day is coming thou, a good young side, they could do with a bit more physical presence somewhere in the FF line.

Thought he just gave him a harmless enough push myself. No call for that shit though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 25, 2010, 08:37:51 PM
think the eventual winners will some from the semi tomorow.. dromintee arnt that hot and if and thats a big if we beat cross we wouldnt fear them 1 bit..  any 50 50 calls tonight was got by dromintee. ;D

no doubt we will have full support from our neighbours the 'bridge' tomorow in ibrox..lol
scum ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sean og on September 25, 2010, 11:06:03 PM
I hear oisin is out for tomorrow nite   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 25, 2010, 11:27:24 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on September 25, 2010, 08:37:51 PM
think the eventual winners will some from the semi tomorow.. dromintee arnt that hot and if and thats a big if we beat cross we wouldnt fear them 1 bit..  any 50 50 calls tonight was got by dromintee. ;D

no doubt we will have full support from our neighbours the 'bridge' tomorow in ibrox..lol
scum ;D

A bit much?

Fair play to dromintee this evening. Hopefully they can go on and win in the final. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 25, 2010, 11:30:27 PM
Minor Championship Quarter-Final: St Patrick's 0-6 St Peter's 1-8

The Minor team's championship hops ran aground on Saturday afternoon when they fell to a more physically dominant St Peter's side in Cullyhanna. From the first throw in, it was clear that Cullyhanna were giving away quite a bit in height in most positions, however they did not allow this to intimidate them and took an early lead with a great Rory O'Neill point after 3 minutes. St Peter's soon replied however and two points, one from a free, put them in the lead. It was not until the 19th minute that Cullyhanna scored again when Sean Connell marauded forward from defence to kick a superb point after a Terry Conlon pass. By this stage St Pat's had gotten to grips with their opponents at midfield and were beginning to get on top in the match. It was particularly unfortunate therefore that at this juncture, full back Gareth Mackin was forced off the pitch due to an injury sustained following a late challenge.

After 26 minutes, Colm Hoey burst through the Lurgan defence threatening a goal but shot wide. Hoey wasted no time in making amends however when he collected a ball rebounding off the post and chipped it over the bar to put his side in front. Despite dominating possession at this stage, some wasteful shooting prevented Cullyhanna extending their lead and a rally from St Peter's late in the half resulted in 3 quick-fire points to put them 2 ahead. The final score of the half was to be finest however as Colm Hoey won possession at midfield, waltzed through the St Peter's defence before laying the ball off to Anton McCooey who kicked an excellent score.

After a competitive and hard-hitting half of football, St Pat's looked well-placed trailing by a single point (0-4 to 0-5) having faced a stiff breeze. The side had competed well at midfield considering the deficit in size and appeared to have every opportunity of progressing to semi-final.

Unfortunately, the exertions of the first half seemed to still affecting the home side as they struggled to contain their visitors early in the second period. From the early stages of the half, St Peter's raised their game considerably and signalled their intent with a goal effort which Gary Keenan had to push over the bar from point blank range. Gary was called into action again soon after when it took a heroically brave sprawling save to deny what appeared a certain goal. St Peter's had began to control play and seemed to lay siege to the Cullyhanna goal. The home side defended stoutly however two points in the middle of the half, one a pointed free and another fisted over, gave St Peter's a commanding four point lead. The match was over as a contest after 58 minutes when a St Peter's free dropped into the net for a goal. To their credit Cullyhanna rallied somewhat after conceding the goal with points from Rory O'Neill and substitute Aidan Conlon however St Peter's finished deserved winners on a scoreline of 1-8 to 0-6.

While the players will no doubt be desperately disappointed to have exited the championship, they can be proud of their efforts, particularly the magnificent victory over Crossmaglen in the previous round. Had a number of key players not been missing through injury, things could have been different but, with the large number of the players involved still under 16, hopefully they can look forward to more success at this grade in future years.

Starting XV: G Keenan; N Donnelly, G Mackin, P Savage; S Connell(0-1), D Mackin, C Connolly; C Hoey (0-1), K McCooey; T Conlon, A McCooey (0-1), P Mackin; A Nugent, R O'Neill (0-2), C Nugent. Subs Used: A Conlon (0-1)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 25, 2010, 11:43:51 PM
Really looking forward to the match tomorrow night. Highlight of my sporting year so far without doubt.

Logic dictates that Cross should win this match with a bit to spare. They have the experienced men who know how to win championship matches and have seen it all before. None of our lads have ever played in a Senior semi-final before. Cross have Armagh's brightest prospect in their forward line along with a gluttony of intercounty footballers. They have literally dozens of Armagh medals amongst their side, the only Cullyhanna man ever to win an Armagh senior title had to don the amber and black to get his medals. They've lost one match in the League all year, we've lost 8. We haven't beaten them at senior level in years.

But yet I can't dislodge from my brain the possibility that we might have a chance. That's the beauty of sport I suppose. If Robbie Tasker manages to outscore Jamie Clarke it could get very interesting.

Up the Pat's!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: overthehill on September 26, 2010, 12:15:43 AM
Quote from: 1life 1club on September 25, 2010, 08:37:51 PM
think the eventual winners will some from the semi tomorow.. dromintee arnt that hot and if and thats a big if we beat cross we wouldnt fear them 1 bit..  any 50 50 calls tonight was got by dromintee. ;D

no doubt we will have full support from our neighbours the 'bridge' tomorow in ibrox..lol
scum ;D

Wee bit over the top there! In fairness i hear the Bridge let our boys have a runout on their pitch friday night so fair play to them for that!

As for the match itself Im a bit like Tac-the heart is wanting it so bad its about to burst but the head is telling me I cant see it! But at the end of the day its a match so we have a chance.

Think its essential we start well-if cross get away they can end up tanking you!!  Think we will need a couple of goals as cross i feel have better point takers! And in Tasker we have the most natural goalscorer in the county so heres hopeing!!

Oisin been out is an obvious boost although there are rumours flying about that the McEntees have been back training with Cross this 3 weeks and are togging out!! How much truth is in this i dont know!!



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 26, 2010, 12:25:03 AM
P OG's v Clans in the B League quarter final play offs next sunday (03rd October) at 12:00 noon. Venue TBA (most likely neutral venue)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sammymaguire on September 26, 2010, 08:49:18 AM
What date is the Armagh county final pencilled in for?? Is it semi-finals stage now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sean og on September 26, 2010, 09:29:13 AM
Intermediate next sunday 3rd Oct
Juinor on the 10th Oct
Senior on the 17th Oct
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BroJolly on September 26, 2010, 01:14:53 PM
Any word on the athletic grounds being available?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 26, 2010, 03:27:46 PM
Clans got a vital two points against the sarsfields. A one point victory.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on September 26, 2010, 03:30:39 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 26, 2010, 03:27:46 PM
Clans got a vital two points against the sarsfields. A one point victory.


Win is that the Clans now safe?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on September 26, 2010, 03:42:26 PM
Harps beat Newtown by 8 or 9 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on September 26, 2010, 04:22:35 PM
Think it's still possible for les blues to go down but it will take a couple of hail mary's and maybe some conspiring( which I wouldn't rule out)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 26, 2010, 04:32:23 PM
Ballyhegan beat Madden 1.07 - 0.09

Good game, vital win!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 26, 2010, 04:53:48 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on September 26, 2010, 03:27:46 PM
Clans got a vital two points against the sarsfields. A one point victory.


It was a two point win the score board was wrong - anyway Clans should have won this by 10 or 12 have been 9 points up in the second half before they started f**king about as usual!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 26, 2010, 05:39:37 PM
HT Cross 1-09 Pats 0-07
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ard Macha on September 26, 2010, 05:42:03 PM
Clonmore beat St Pauls by 4 points and they even had 2 players sent off..

::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Mack the finger on September 26, 2010, 06:29:05 PM
Cross 1 14 St Pats 2 11

Clarke and Tasker off, straight reds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgeddon on September 26, 2010, 06:32:04 PM
Quote from: Mack the finger on September 26, 2010, 06:29:05 PM
Cross 1 14 St Pats 2 11

Clarke and Tasker off, straight reds.

FT?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on September 26, 2010, 06:33:08 PM
Quote from: Mack the finger on September 26, 2010, 06:29:05 PM
Cross 1 14 St Pats 2 11

Clarke and Tasker off, straight reds.

Scrapping with each other?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 26, 2010, 06:33:12 PM
FT draw.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Piarsaigh Oga on September 26, 2010, 06:35:05 PM
When would the replay be??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 26, 2010, 06:54:51 PM
Great entertainment there tonight. Last night's game was pure dross in comparison. Would've been even better had the two best forwards on show not been lined within a couple of minutes of each other. Didn't see Clarke's red (Cross' legion of subs were blocking my view), but I thought Tasker's was a joke and stank of a ref wanting to even things up.

Draw was probably a fair result, and no one could accuse the ref of playing for it. He allowed a good four or five minutes injury time with both teams getting opportunities to snatch it. Thought a couple of Cullyhanna's second half points were suspect - the one the ref had to overrule the umpires on and McKeever's at the end.

Wouldn't count out St. Pats completely in the replay, but I get the impression they'll miss Tasker more than Cross will miss Clarke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 26, 2010, 06:57:55 PM
Quote from: AFS on September 26, 2010, 06:54:51 PM
Great entertainment there tonight. Last night's game was pure dross in comparison. Would've been even better had the two best forwards on show not been lined within a couple of minutes of each other. Didn't see Clarke's red (Cross' legion of subs were blocking my view), but I thought Tasker's was a joke and stank of a ref wanting to even things up.

Draw was probably a fair result, and no one could accuse the ref of playing for it. He allowed a good four or five minutes injury time with both teams getting opportunities to snatch it. Thought a couple of Cullyhanna's second half points were suspect - the one the ref had to overrule the umpires on and McKeever's at the end.

Wouldn't count out St. Pats completely in the replay, but I get the impression they'll miss Tasker more than Cross will miss Clarke.

Which one was that? The one where Barry kicked it really high. I thought Brookie's just about went over though it was very tight.

f**k I dunno what to say about that match. I'm lost for words.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 26, 2010, 07:03:14 PM
Perhaps a draw at Silverbridge was just as well. The umpire gave a wide as a point for each side, Cross halfway through the 1st half and an even worse one for Cullyhanna 5 mins from the end of the game!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 26, 2010, 07:12:46 PM
What a game............the best club game in Armagh for years. Real pity that Tasker got sent off as he gave some exhibition.................2.5 I think with all but one point from play. Ciaran McKeever outstanding again. The attacking play from both sides was something else with Jaimie Clarke quiet. Aaron Cunningham was Cross's best forward IMO (although he was constantly getting involved in the niggly stuff).
Didn't see either sendings off but a couple of fellas beside me saw Clarke elbowing Eoin McArdle in the face. The Tasker incident was at the far end of the field.
As AFS says Cross put their score up without Clarke contributing so you'd think that'll miss him less than St Pat's will miss Tasker. Can't wait for the replay.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 26, 2010, 07:14:31 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 26, 2010, 06:57:55 PM
Quote from: AFS on September 26, 2010, 06:54:51 PM
Great entertainment there tonight. Last night's game was pure dross in comparison. Would've been even better had the two best forwards on show not been lined within a couple of minutes of each other. Didn't see Clarke's red (Cross' legion of subs were blocking my view), but I thought Tasker's was a joke and stank of a ref wanting to even things up.

Draw was probably a fair result, and no one could accuse the ref of playing for it. He allowed a good four or five minutes injury time with both teams getting opportunities to snatch it. Thought a couple of Cullyhanna's second half points were suspect - the one the ref had to overrule the umpires on and McKeever's at the end.

Wouldn't count out St. Pats completely in the replay, but I get the impression they'll miss Tasker more than Cross will miss Clarke.

Which one was that? The one where Barry kicked it really high. I thought Brookie's just about went over though it was very tight.

f**k I dunno what to say about that match. I'm lost for words.

Aye. Looked wide from where I was and there were a good few around me thought the same. But I suppose the ref must've been certain if he was prepared to call it  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Piarsaigh Oga on September 26, 2010, 07:15:01 PM
Any Idea when the replay is??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 26, 2010, 07:21:55 PM
Quote from: Piarsaigh Oga on September 26, 2010, 07:15:01 PM
Any Idea when the replay is??

Don't know, don't care. I've decided I hate football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 26, 2010, 08:05:46 PM
Senior Championship Semi-Final: St Patrick's 2-11 Crossmaglen Rangers 1-14

Silverbridge was the setting on Sunday evening for what turned out to be magnificently thrilling county semi-final played in near-perfect conditions on Sunday evening. A huge crowd attended from throughout the county and beyond and they were certainly not disappointed as the two local rivals served up a feast of football. Whilst local bookmakers had made little of the Cullyhanna team's chances earlier in the week, they showed no signed of being overawed by either the occasion or the illustrious nature of the opposition as St Pat's made an excellent start when a Ciaran McKeever free was well won by Gary McCooey who laid the ball off to Robbie Tasker for the opening point. A Tony Kernan free levelled matters before Robbie Tasker collected a loose ball and fired over the bar. After eight minutes, Liam O'Hare won possession in the corner, drove towards goal and found Eugene with an excellent pass. Casey made no mistake in kicking the point to send his side two points into the lead. With Mal Mackin exerting quite a bit of influence at midfield, Cullyhanna seemed in the ascendancy however Cross soon showed their true quality as Stephen Kernan kicked a magnificent point with the outside of the foot. Two more Crossmaglen points followed in quick succession before Stephen Kernan got the first goal of the match when he pounced on a loose ball, deceived the goalkeeper with an outrageous dummy before coolly slotting the ball to the net.

Facing a four point deficit, St Patrick's again utilised the long ball to good effect to allow Gary McCooey who was excelling at full forward to take a score. Aaron Cunningham responded with a point before another excellent Robbie Tasker point brought St Pat's back within a goal. Cross then took advantage of some criminally lax marking to go 5 in front. A Robbie Tasker free and a magnificent Ciaran McKeever point from the right hand sideline kept St Pat's in touch but Rangers finished the half stronger with two late points to lead at the break by 1-9 to 0-7 after a very open and attractive first half of football.

The prevailing view amongst the Cullyhanna support at half-time was that, despite the deficit, the team looked dangerous when they attacked with direct football. Yet even the most optimistic of St Pat's followers could hardly have imagined the dividends which those tactics would pay early in the second half. From the first throw in, Mal Mackin caught the ball and was fouled. His long free was flicked on by Gary McCooey who found Robbie Tasker in space. If the former County Minor was nervous facing a gilt-edged goal chance, he showed no signs of it as he expertly found the bottom corner of the Crossmaglen net to cut the deficit to two points. Two minutes, the old adage that lightning doesn't strike twice was turned on its head when Gary McCooey leaped into the sky to attempt to field another Mackin kick. Whether McCooey got his palm to the ball or not is a matter for debate but crucially Tasker ended up through on goal again and the result was the same as the net bulged to send the Cullyhanna support into raptures, but more importantly, his team into the lead.

Cross did not win 13 county titles by panicking however and they soon drew level with a pointed free. While it seemed as though the match could scarcely be much more dramatic, controversy soon erupted when two separate incidents within a minute of each other resulted in both sides losing their marquee forward to a sending off, Jamie Clarke and Robbie Tasker receiving their marching orders respectively. With both sides down to 14, the match was entirely in the balance but it was Cross who forged into the lead thanks to a pointed free before a lobbing Barry McConville kick restored parity. Cross soon kicked another score and led by a point however with 9 minutes to go, Ciaran McKeever, who was magnificent throughout, made a driving run forward before passing to Tony Donnelly. Donnelly showed great composure to come inside before kicking an excellent score. Try as they might, St Pat's could not stay level for long as Cross again got their noses in front with a point.

After 24 minutes, the long ball tactic which had brought success all evening worked again when a Tony Donnelly sent a high kick in towards Gary McCooey who, despite being blantantly fouled very close to, if not inside, the penalty area, rose acrobatically to fist a superb point. Level with five minutes to go, there was still more drama in store as Cross edged into the lead again after a well worked point. Behind in a championship semi-final with 3 minutes to go, Cullyhanna needed leaders and inspiration and they found both in the shape of Ciaran McKeever whom under the severest pressure, kicked his second magnificent point of the day from the right hand sideline. While both sides should have been desperate at this stage to find the winning score, it was difficult to attribute such urgency to the Crossmaglen goalkeeper who seemed obsessed in the final few minutes with having the football replaced. Eventually a O'Neills size 5 was found which met his exacting standards and late into injury time, it looked as though Cross had their opportunity to win the game with an Aaron Kernan free. The whole of South Armagh drew its breath as Kernan attempted the difficult kick and there were huge sighs of relief from the Cullyhanna faithful when the ball landed just wide. Referee Jimmy McKee blew for full-time soon after to ensure that it will take another outing to find a victor.

While the perceived wisdom in such situations seems to be that the underdog who forces a draw is always likely to struggle in the replay, the St Pat's side would do well to remember that such clichés are founded in little more than bluster and hearsay. Crossmaglen are undoubtedly a superb side with some magnificent players however Cullyhanna showed today that they have the ability to match the Rangers and will be hoping to go one better in the replay. Next week will no doubt be a different match with different controversies and turning points, however if it produces anything the excitement of Sunday's game, the supporters will be very fortunate indeed.

Starting XV: C O'Neill, B Savage, S Reel, M Murray, E McArdle, C McKeever (0-2), P McCreesh, M Mackin, B McConville (0-1); K Hoey, L O'Hare, E Casey (0-1), T Donnelly (0-1), G McCooey (0-2), R Tasker (2-4). Subs Used: N McShane, A Mackin, S McKeever

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 26, 2010, 08:19:17 PM
A terrific game which neither team deserved to lose.
Both dismissals seemed a bit harsh and were no reflection on the game which was played in a very sporting manner throughout.
A very large attendance and no doubt the replay will again attract a very large gathering.
Congratulations to both teams on a great contest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 26, 2010, 08:23:46 PM
Agree with TAM on Hearty, wtf was he at? Booted one ball clean over the clubrooms!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 26, 2010, 08:25:06 PM
A point of interest perhaps. !!

Since Cross won their first all Ireland title in 1997. tonight was the first time that they started a championship match with no one  in the starting lineout who played in that final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 26, 2010, 08:36:01 PM
That cross team are poles apart from the 97 team. Not in the same league in the physicality stakes but still a very good collection of footballers. Don't know whether they could handle the muck and sh1t in November (if they get that far) as well as the twins, Francie, Donaldson,etc..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 26, 2010, 08:46:29 PM
wat a game,,great display from both sides,,referee made a harsh call sending rob of,,never seen the clarke incident..
people would say we would be happy with a draw but were absolutly sick we got nothing from that game,tasker gave a display that would grace any pitch..

id say dromintee got the lives scared out of them 2nite,,they wouldnt stand a chance against either team 2nite..

scrap the 2 reds and let the 2 best teams in armagh serve up another cracker.. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lemallon on September 26, 2010, 09:00:38 PM
Best game of football in Armagh in a long time. Some incredible scores and performances. Stephen Kernan and Aaron Cunningham for Cross in the first half. Robbie Tasker 2-3 (2-2 from play) before wrongly sent off and Ciaran Mc Keever througout the whole game was absolutely outstanding. Incredibly strong on the ball. Magnificent passing and tackling and two superb points from play. One of the great displays.

Real pity about the sending offs for the replay. Jamien Clarke obviously struck out at a back who had been constantly annoying him the whole game. No excuse but little protection offered to the forward. Up until then he had been amazingly quiet with Cross rarely feeding his corner. I think they saw the St Pats no 3 as a weak link as both Kernan and Cunningham caused havoc when placed at 14. Tasker was sent off almost straight away. From my viewpoint it looked like no 17 Mc Cooey who was also excellent by they way who did the majority of the striking and was more deserving of the card. Ridiculous poor discipline on their part at a time when they looked like certain winners.

A few reputations got a bit of a pounding this evening. Paul Kernan and Paul Mc Keown were both roasted. Very surprising that Cross didnt move James Morgan onto Tasker as im sure he would have marked him constantly in Armagh minor training. Kernan struggled badly with Mc Cooey who looks like a county potential player to me. Stephen Kernan looked back to his best however. As ever looked like hed great time on the ball and kicked some beautiful points. If playing like this definitely the answer to Armaghs No 11 problems. Tony was also good while Aaron I thought was fairly quiet.


Great battle between Mc Kenna and Mackin in midfield. Mc Kenna probably slightly shaded it but Pats did well to guide kickouts away from him in second half. Cross are struggling badly to find a partner for him. Johnny Hanratty not the answer. Overall tremendous game. Great crowd although the bank simply isnt steep enough. Impssible to see about 1/4 of the field. C Mc Keever. Take a bow.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 26, 2010, 11:52:02 PM

McKeever was magnificent with ball in hand but so much of cross's best work in the first half came through whoever he was loosely marking - usually steven kernan but also aaron cunningham.

fair play to steven kernan - he lost his usual quota of ball in contact but he did some terrific things tonight - particularly in the first half.

McKenna looked rusty but he's a massive addition to cross around the middle given the tankings they've been taking there all summer.

It was a little surreal to watch such an open game of football in the armagh senior championship. doesn't happen very often and you don't often see defences as gaping at this level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 27, 2010, 12:05:30 AM
Wish I had went to this game today going by some the reports. No disrespect to Cross but I'm glad teams are pushing them all the way now. Great to see a good open championship and Dromintee will only add to that in the final as well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 27, 2010, 02:27:40 AM
Quote from: ogshead on September 27, 2010, 12:05:30 AM
Wish I had went to this game today going by some the reports. No disrespect to Cross but I'm glad teams are pushing them all the way now. Great to see a good open championship and Dromintee will only add to that in the final as well

Read my post at 8.25 and it might help to explain why.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 27, 2010, 09:03:02 AM
Cullyhanna where i thought the better team on the night played the better football over the  64 min.Tasker has to be one if not the best forwards in the county at the min and for a ref to send him off for nothing just to level matters up is very unfair for the paying supporter and off course cullyhanna.He took cross apart thoughout the whole game till he was wrongfully sent off.Ciaran mc keever was by far the best player on the field he is one off Irelands best footballers very cool on the ball passing spot on and not one cross player could knock him off should see him playing for Ireland very soon.Aaron was very poor along with mal mackin think this could be a part off the county problem Aaron has not got the guts when things get turned up a bit he does not want to take that big hit to me he is yellow and it showed yesterday.mal is a player that is very good or very bad he should be ruling midfield but could not get into uit at all yesterday all he done was foul and give away the ball.Im looking forward to the replay but i think tasker should be allowed to play its so unfair to keep a player like this on the side line for doing nothing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 27, 2010, 12:43:35 PM
always expected st. pats to push them close, however without Tasker who did deserve his red and that was from cullyhanna men beside me i think they have missed the boat. Dromintee will not be overly concerned even tho their game was poor in comparison.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 27, 2010, 03:20:10 PM
So it is all moving towards Dromintee's inevitable first title. Whichever team wins the replay will being minus their marquee forward in the final(which may take some gloss off their win), with Dromintee winning with a bit to spare in their semi. It will be nice to see them win the final after all these years of trying, just a shame that the likes of Cathal and Damian Kilgallon were playing in the era that they were as players like them were the driving forces to bring Dromintee up to this level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 27, 2010, 04:23:25 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 27, 2010, 03:20:10 PM
So it is all moving towards Dromintee's inevitable first title. Whichever team wins the replay will being minus their marquee forward in the final(which may take some gloss off their win), with Dromintee winning with a bit to spare in their semi. It will be nice to see them win the final after all these years of trying, just a shame that the likes of Cathal and Damian Kilgallon were playing in the era that they were as players like them were the driving forces to bring Dromintee up to this level.
Do Cross not have Oisin back in time should they win the replay? Not a bad player to call upon!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 27, 2010, 04:27:51 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 27, 2010, 04:23:25 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 27, 2010, 03:20:10 PM
So it is all moving towards Dromintee's inevitable first title. Whichever team wins the replay will being minus their marquee forward in the final(which may take some gloss off their win), with Dromintee winning with a bit to spare in their semi. It will be nice to see them win the final after all these years of trying, just a shame that the likes of Cathal and Damian Kilgallon were playing in the era that they were as players like them were the driving forces to bring Dromintee up to this level.
Do Cross not have Oisin back in time should they win the replay? Not a bad player to call upon!

I believe Oisin is back for the replay.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 27, 2010, 04:32:54 PM
I see. Advantage Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 27, 2010, 06:00:24 PM
Oisin i dont think is back.not up till that sat night till 12
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 27, 2010, 07:37:03 PM
Is he suspended?? What for??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 27, 2010, 07:42:27 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 27, 2010, 03:20:10 PM
So it is all moving towards Dromintee's inevitable first title. Whichever team wins the replay will being minus their marquee forward in the final(which may take some gloss off their win), with Dromintee winning with a bit to spare in their semi. It will be nice to see them win the final after all these years of trying, just a shame that the likes of Cathal and Damian Kilgallon were playing in the era that they were as players like them were the driving forces to bring Dromintee up to this level.
obviously you avent seen dromintee play in the c,ship this year,,they are a poor side who beat poor teams to get to the final..they would ave got a massive wake up call yday,,cross or st pats would steamroller them in the final,,they are a team of havebeens and id say they wont get this far again for a wile.. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 27, 2010, 07:44:13 PM
point of note about the match yday,,did any1 hear the halftime draw take place??cos any1 i spoke 2 didnt,,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 27, 2010, 08:18:37 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 27, 2010, 07:37:03 PM
Is he suspended?? What for??
He's involved with Toome in Monaghan and was reported for dissent in a championship match last weekend.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 27, 2010, 09:09:42 PM
I would not buy a half time ticket from the bridge c***ts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2010, 09:23:08 PM
Quote from: back off the net on September 27, 2010, 09:09:42 PM
I would not buy a half time ticket from the bridge c***ts

Is it any wonder Pints doesn't like yous lads
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 27, 2010, 09:29:37 PM
Noticed Johnny Hanratty playing, did he not get a straight red in the game v Harps?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 27, 2010, 10:08:41 PM
Im not from cullyhanna
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 27, 2010, 10:47:56 PM
Half time draw WAS made.

Ticket no 800.

Can be claimed at the game on Saturday.

If not claimed £100 will go to Hospice Service



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 27, 2010, 10:52:09 PM
by the way back of the net your previous posts clearly indicate that your club IS cullyhanna.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 27, 2010, 10:53:33 PM
1 life 1 club , may i recommend soap and water.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 27, 2010, 10:58:38 PM
Quote from: back off the net on August 23, 2009, 01:08:51 AM
hope the bridge wan kers go down UP THE PATS

Are you sure you're being honest?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 27, 2010, 11:14:32 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 27, 2010, 10:53:33 PM
1 life 1 club , may i recommend soap and water.
good luck in div 2 next year.lol ;D
up the pats
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 27, 2010, 11:22:35 PM
Best wishes to YOU on Saturday 1 life.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 27, 2010, 11:32:06 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 27, 2010, 11:22:35 PM
Best wishes to YOU on Saturday 1 life.
tink il need it 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagh leg-end on September 27, 2010, 11:59:03 PM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on September 28, 2010, 08:27:13 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 27, 2010, 10:47:56 PM
Half time draw WAS made.

Ticket no 800.

Can be claimed at the game on Saturday.

If not claimed £100 will go to Hospice Service

why was this ticket number not announched at the match on sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 28, 2010, 08:33:22 AM
Quote from: flog the lot on September 28, 2010, 08:27:13 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 27, 2010, 10:47:56 PM
Half time draw WAS made.

Ticket no 800.

Can be claimed at the game on Saturday.

If not claimed £100 will go to Hospice Service

why was this ticket number not announched at the match on sunday?

I'd assume it was but nobody on the Dundalk side of the side would have heard it as the PA system was fairly pathetic. There was a minute's silence at the start of the match that nobody caught on to for quite some time as they couldn't hear the announcement and the singer was a few lines into the anthem before anybody realised she was singing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 28, 2010, 09:19:18 AM
all of the people all of the time.

do you guys go to matches to  watch  the game or just to find fault.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on September 28, 2010, 09:19:25 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 28, 2010, 08:33:22 AM
Quote from: flog the lot on September 28, 2010, 08:27:13 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 27, 2010, 10:47:56 PM
Half time draw WAS made.

Ticket no 800.

Can be claimed at the game on Saturday.

If not claimed £100 will go to Hospice Service

I'd assume it was but nobody on the Dundalk side of the side would have heard it as the PA system was fairly pathetic. There was a minute's silence at the start of the match that nobody caught on to for quite some time as they couldn't hear the announcement and the singer was a few lines into the anthem before anybody realised she was singing.

why was this ticket number not announched at the match on sunday?

PA system was giving trouble. Half time draw was called out however probably wasn heard.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 28, 2010, 09:30:15 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 28, 2010, 09:19:18 AM
all of the people all of the time.

do you guys go to matches to  watch  the game or just to find fault.

If Silverbridge club want to profit, quite legitimately, from organising a half-time draw, its hardly unreasonable for someone who buys a ticket to expect to be told whether they've won or not.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 28, 2010, 09:34:35 AM
Armagh SFC Semi-Final Replay

St Patrick's v Crossmaglen Rangers

4.30pm Saturday 2nd October

Extra-time if necessary
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 28, 2010, 09:39:17 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 28, 2010, 09:34:35 AM
Armagh SFC Semi-Final Replay

St Patrick's v Crossmaglen Rangers

4.30pm Saturday 2nd October

Extra-time if necessary

Back at the bridge?
Who's the ref?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 28, 2010, 09:49:15 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 28, 2010, 09:39:17 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 28, 2010, 09:34:35 AM
Armagh SFC Semi-Final Replay

St Patrick's v Crossmaglen Rangers

4.30pm Saturday 2nd October

Extra-time if necessary

Back at the bridge?
Who's the ref?

Yep, back at Silverbridge. No word of a referee yet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 28, 2010, 10:05:56 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 28, 2010, 09:49:15 AM
No word of a referee yet.

From Centre Half:

Saturday 2 October
Senior Football Championship – Semi-final Replay (4.30)
Crossmaglen Rangers v St Patrick's (Ger Devlin) at Silverbridge
(Extra time, if required)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on September 28, 2010, 11:00:56 AM
Both sets of players would want to keep the traps shut...............he's lethal on backchat.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on September 28, 2010, 11:30:17 AM
Some come down from Jimmy McKee.

He is one of the worst in the county.  A complete clown!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 28, 2010, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: Joxer on September 28, 2010, 11:30:17 AM
Some come down from Jimmy McKee.

He is one of the worst in the county.  A complete clown!
come down from jimmy mc kee??? ur avin a laugh,,he sent robbie of the other day for nothing,just to even things up..

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 28, 2010, 12:11:23 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on September 28, 2010, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: Joxer on September 28, 2010, 11:30:17 AM
Some come down from Jimmy McKee.

He is one of the worst in the county.  A complete clown!
come down from jimmy mc kee??? ur avin a laugh,,he sent robbie of the other day for nothing,just to even things up..



to be fair every neutral at the game said he deserved to go
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 28, 2010, 12:17:20 PM
Quote from: pearseog on September 28, 2010, 12:11:23 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on September 28, 2010, 11:53:22 AM
Quote from: Joxer on September 28, 2010, 11:30:17 AM
Some come down from Jimmy McKee.

He is one of the worst in the county.  A complete clown!
come down from jimmy mc kee??? ur avin a laugh,,he sent robbie of the other day for nothing,just to even things up..



to be fair every neutral at the game said he deserved to go

Some neutral views;

Quote from: crossfire on September 26, 2010, 08:19:17 PM
A terrific game which neither team deserved to lose.
Both dismissals seemed a bit harsh and were no reflection on the game which was played in a very sporting manner throughout.
A very large attendance and no doubt the replay will again attract a very large gathering.
Congratulations to both teams on a great contest.

Quote from: AFS on September 26, 2010, 06:54:51 PM
Great entertainment there tonight. Last night's game was pure dross in comparison. Would've been even better had the two best forwards on show not been lined within a couple of minutes of each other. Didn't see Clarke's red (Cross' legion of subs were blocking my view), but I thought Tasker's was a joke and stank of a ref wanting to even things up.

Draw was probably a fair result, and no one could accuse the ref of playing for it. He allowed a good four or five minutes injury time with both teams getting opportunities to snatch it. Thought a couple of Cullyhanna's second half points were suspect - the one the ref had to overrule the umpires on and McKeever's at the end.

Wouldn't count out St. Pats completely in the replay, but I get the impression they'll miss Tasker more than Cross will miss Clarke.

Quote from: lemallon on September 26, 2010, 09:00:38 PM
Best game of football in Armagh in a long time. Some incredible scores and performances. Stephen Kernan and Aaron Cunningham for Cross in the first half. Robbie Tasker 2-3 (2-2 from play) before wrongly sent off and Ciaran Mc Keever througout the whole game was absolutely outstanding. Incredibly strong on the ball. Magnificent passing and tackling and two superb points from play. One of the great displays.

Real pity about the sending offs for the replay. Jamien Clarke obviously struck out at a back who had been constantly annoying him the whole game. No excuse but little protection offered to the forward. Up until then he had been amazingly quiet with Cross rarely feeding his corner. I think they saw the St Pats no 3 as a weak link as both Kernan and Cunningham caused havoc when placed at 14. Tasker was sent off almost straight away. From my viewpoint it looked like no 17 Mc Cooey who was also excellent by they way who did the majority of the striking and was more deserving of the card. Ridiculous poor discipline on their part at a time when they looked like certain winners.

A few reputations got a bit of a pounding this evening. Paul Kernan and Paul Mc Keown were both roasted. Very surprising that Cross didnt move James Morgan onto Tasker as im sure he would have marked him constantly in Armagh minor training. Kernan struggled badly with Mc Cooey who looks like a county potential player to me. Stephen Kernan looked back to his best however. As ever looked like hed great time on the ball and kicked some beautiful points. If playing like this definitely the answer to Armaghs No 11 problems. Tony was also good while Aaron I thought was fairly quiet.


Great battle between Mc Kenna and Mackin in midfield. Mc Kenna probably slightly shaded it but Pats did well to guide kickouts away from him in second half. Cross are struggling badly to find a partner for him. Johnny Hanratty not the answer. Overall tremendous game. Great crowd although the bank simply isnt steep enough. Impssible to see about 1/4 of the field. C Mc Keever. Take a bow.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 28, 2010, 12:56:13 PM
Can you open a quoting of neutrals with a quote from crossfire lol?

Thought both deserved to walk myself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 28, 2010, 12:58:57 PM
tasker is a good player but a wee s--t head , he def deserved to go and most st pats people beside me agreed. tainted glasses son. ps mc kee did a good job
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 28, 2010, 01:05:51 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 28, 2010, 12:56:13 PM
Can you open a quoting of neutrals with a quote from crossfire lol?

Thought both deserved to walk myself

OK well he's not a Cullyhanna man then!

Its not a question of, as thewanderer put it, tainted glasses. I didn't see the Jamie Clarke sending off at all. For Robbie's I was brave distance away but there seemed to me to be a flaying of arms though I couldn't really make out whether that was by Robbie or someone else. It seemed more as though they were slapping at the chest area closer to where the ball was held than the face / head. I wouldn't really have been fit to make a definitive judgment either way though I was struck by the fact that a few neutrals (other than on here) did think he was unfortunate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 28, 2010, 01:21:21 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 28, 2010, 01:05:51 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on September 28, 2010, 12:56:13 PM
Can you open a quoting of neutrals with a quote from crossfire lol?

Thought both deserved to walk myself

OK well he's not a Cullyhanna man then!

Its not a question of, as thewanderer put it, tainted glasses. I didn't see the Jamie Clarke sending off at all. For Robbie's I was brave distance away but there seemed to me to be a flaying of arms though I couldn't really make out whether that was by Robbie or someone else. It seemed more as though they were slapping at the chest area closer to where the ball was held than the face / head. I wouldn't really have been fit to make a definitive judgment either way though I was struck by the fact that a few neutrals (other than on here) did think he was unfortunate.

He shouldn't have been sent off IMO, but McCooey should have been.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 28, 2010, 01:21:53 PM
obviously the wanderer knows robbie well enuf 2 call him a shithead.lol.is that the reason u tink he should have been sent off or is it because he deserved to go??  i had a perfect view of the incident and i was with a large contingence of the st pats supporters and i taut it was very harsh along with the rest..the cross player had the ball high up in his chest and 2 of  our players seemed to slap at it..more so gary mc c than rob..if clarke hadnt of got the line i think this debate wouldt be happening,,poor ref bending of for cross yet again..point of note,anytime our gk had a kick out the ref rushed him by blowing his whistle,,didnt happen for hearty,,he just kicked balls away.lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 28, 2010, 01:26:02 PM
My view of the Tasker sending off was pretty good, I was more or less in line with the incident. This is my take on it, if anyone saw anything different fair enough, it wouldn't be the first time my memory has played tricks on me:

McKeown was in possession and awarded a free. Tasker and McCooey were hanging out of him and when the whistle was blown they went a bit mad trying to get the ball, presumably to stop a quick free kick or perhaps they thought St. Pat's had been awarded the free. Predictably enough, McKeown wasn't for just handing the ball over and a bit of a struggle ensued. In the struggle, McKeown may have got a knock on the face but I don't think there were any intentionally forceful blows. Of the two St. Pat's lads involved, McCooey was the main aggressor and if anyone went it should've been him. To send Tasker off and not take any action against McCooey at all made no sense, and only strengthens my suspicion that the main motivation behind the sending off was to even up the numbers as soon as possible after the previous contentious decision.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 28, 2010, 01:28:51 PM
On a general point, i thought it was another very good weekend for club football in armagh - i felt the same after quarter final weekend. club football in armagh is in decent order having seen quite a bit of football in neighbouring counties.

The two games were thoroughly enjoyable for different reasons. saturday looked like a break through to a county final for the young pretenders for long parts. Granemore have some very mobile dangerous and promising forward. Dromintee were excellent in the second half with 14 men and have to be commended for how ridiculously difficult they are to break down at the back and tackle brilliantly. very much a contrast to sunday's two teams.

Cullyhanna and cross went at each other from the start and it made for a fantastic spectacle. there was some great attacking football for 65 minutes. it was great to get a real good look at the potential of young tasker in senior football and some of the finishing on both sides was sublime.

whoever wins the replay on saturday, it'll be all out attack against stoic defense in the final. club football in armagh is very healthy i believe.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 28, 2010, 01:43:09 PM
Quote from: AFS on September 28, 2010, 01:26:02 PM
My view of the Tasker sending off was pretty good, I was more or less in line with the incident. This is my take on it, if anyone saw anything different fair enough, it wouldn't be the first time my memory has played tricks on me:

McKeown was in possession and awarded a free. Tasker and McCooey were hanging out of him and when the whistle was blown they went a bit mad trying to get the ball, presumably to stop a quick free kick or perhaps they thought St. Pat's had been awarded the free. Predictably enough, McKeown wasn't for just handing the ball over and a bit of a struggle ensued. In the struggle, McKeown may have got a knock on the face but I don't think there were any intentionally forceful blows. Of the two St. Pat's lads involved, McCooey was the main aggressor and if anyone went it should've been him. To send Tasker off and not take any action against McCooey at all made no sense, and only strengthens my suspicion that the main motivation behind the sending off was to even up the numbers as soon as possible after the previous contentious decision.
hear hear,i wouldnt disagree..that was about right
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 28, 2010, 01:49:23 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 28, 2010, 09:30:15 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on September 28, 2010, 09:19:18 AM
all of the people all of the time.

do you guys go to matches to  watch  the game or just to find fault.

If Silverbridge club want to profit, quite legitimately, from organising a half-time draw, its hardly unreasonable for someone who buys a ticket to expect to be told whether they've won or not.

holy f**k!  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

Got to hand it to you Tac, you've some neck on you....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on September 28, 2010, 01:54:05 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on September 28, 2010, 01:43:09 PM
Quote from: AFS on September 28, 2010, 01:26:02 PM
My view of the Tasker sending off was pretty good, I was more or less in line with the incident. This is my take on it, if anyone saw anything different fair enough, it wouldn't be the first time my memory has played tricks on me:

McKeown was in possession and awarded a free. Tasker and McCooey were hanging out of him and when the whistle was blown they went a bit mad trying to get the ball, presumably to stop a quick free kick or perhaps they thought St. Pat's had been awarded the free. Predictably enough, McKeown wasn't for just handing the ball over and a bit of a struggle ensued. In the struggle, McKeown may have got a knock on the face but I don't think there were any intentionally forceful blows. Of the two St. Pat's lads involved, McCooey was the main aggressor and if anyone went it should've been him. To send Tasker off and not take any action against McCooey at all made no sense, and only strengthens my suspicion that the main motivation behind the sending off was to even up the numbers as soon as possible after the previous contentious decision.
hear hear,i wouldnt disagree..that was about right

I didn see it myself was at the other end of the field but 4 or 5 told me McCooey was the one who should have went if anyone was for the line.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 28, 2010, 02:01:02 PM
Quote from: back off the net on September 27, 2010, 09:03:02 AM
Cullyhanna where i thought the better team on the night played the better football over the  64 min.Tasker has to be one if not the best forwards in the county at the min and for a ref to send him off for nothing just to level matters up is very unfair for the paying supporter and off course cullyhanna.He took cross apart thoughout the whole game till he was wrongfully sent off.Ciaran mc keever was by far the best player on the field he is one off Irelands best footballers very cool on the ball passing spot on and not one cross player could knock him off should see him playing for Ireland very soon.Aaron was very poor along with mal mackin think this could be a part off the county problem Aaron has not got the guts when things get turned up a bit he does not want to take that big hit to me he is yellow and it showed yesterday.mal is a player that is very good or very bad he should be ruling midfield but could not get into uit at all yesterday all he done was foul and give away the ball.Im looking forward to the replay but i think tasker should be allowed to play its so unfair to keep a player like this on the side line for doing nothing.

You say Tasker was sent off for nothing.

What was Clarke sent off for.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on September 28, 2010, 02:10:52 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 28, 2010, 02:01:02 PM
Quote from: back off the net on September 27, 2010, 09:03:02 AM
Cullyhanna where i thought the better team on the night played the better football over the  64 min.Tasker has to be one if not the best forwards in the county at the min and for a ref to send him off for nothing just to level matters up is very unfair for the paying supporter and off course cullyhanna.He took cross apart thoughout the whole game till he was wrongfully sent off.Ciaran mc keever was by far the best player on the field he is one off Irelands best footballers very cool on the ball passing spot on and not one cross player could knock him off should see him playing for Ireland very soon.Aaron was very poor along with mal mackin think this could be a part off the county problem Aaron has not got the guts when things get turned up a bit he does not want to take that big hit to me he is yellow and it showed yesterday.mal is a player that is very good or very bad he should be ruling midfield but could not get into uit at all yesterday all he done was foul and give away the ball.Im looking forward to the replay but i think tasker should be allowed to play its so unfair to keep a player like this on the side line for doing nothing.

You say Tasker was sent off for nothing.

What was Clarke sent off for.?

never seen the clarke incident but few people around me said he threw an elbow..

i also thought it was mccooey who seemed to be more guilty of anything than tasker..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 28, 2010, 02:13:28 PM
Catch yourself on Pints. There's not a thing wrong with what I said and I couldn't have been plainer that there was nothing untoward about what Silverbridge were doing, simply that they should sort out their PA system. Is there anything about that which you disagree with or did you hear the announcement clearly from England?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 28, 2010, 02:13:48 PM
I thought Tasker made contact higher up and more forcefully than McCooey.

Can they do a swap?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 28, 2010, 03:24:35 PM
think everyone accepts that amp system was at fault on sunday.

so on saturday we are going to tattoo the winning number to the ref's arse for all to see.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 28, 2010, 03:37:05 PM
Especially if its Mc Clatcheys ass - then wel know the winner here in Lurgan! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on September 28, 2010, 06:17:54 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 28, 2010, 02:13:28 PM
Catch yourself on Pints. There's not a thing wrong with what I said and I couldn't have been plainer that there was nothing untoward about what Silverbridge were doing, simply that they should sort out their PA system. Is there anything about that which you disagree with or did you hear the announcement clearly from England?
You'd swear you were never at a game with a dodgy PA system....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 28, 2010, 11:04:06 PM
will culoville do it on sunday??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 28, 2010, 11:27:08 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on September 28, 2010, 11:04:06 PM
will culoville do it on sunday??

Head says "Yes" but hope not. I'd like to see Sarsfields win it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PatDaly on September 29, 2010, 03:41:14 PM
Will Oisin also miss the final vs Dromintee assuming Cross beat Cullyhanna in Saturday's replay?

http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=136342

Suspended McConville to miss Cross' replay

Armagh's Oisin McConville
29 September 2010

Oisin McConville will be a notable absentee once again from the Crossmaglen team for Saturday's Armagh SFC semi-final replay against St. Patrick's, Cullyhanna.

The former Armagh All-Ireland winning forward missed last weekend's drawn clash after receiving a retrospective four-week ban for alleged verbal abuse of a referee during a recent Monaghan league game, and will once again be confined to the role of spectator in Silverbridge on Saturday evening after his appeal was thrown out.

McConville was coaching Monaghan junior side Toome at the time and only realised there was a problem when he received a letter.

"Immediately I sought a hearing thinking that nothing would come of it. But in the meantime I had spoken to the referee who said I had verbally abused him," McConville told The Belfast Telegraph.

"I asked if I had used foul language and he said 'no'. I might have been raving and ranting at my own players, but I can't recall saying anything to the referee.

"I don't have too many years left playing football and all this stuff is breaking my heart as I never had any previous disciplinary problems. I'm certainly not in the business of abusing referees."

The prolific forward believes the GAA can learn a lot from rugby with regard to improving communication between players and referees.

"There the referee explains every decision. In GAA if you question a referee's decision you are likely to get a booking.

"But whereas in rugby there's a much better understanding between players and the referee, in the GAA it's very much a case of them and us," he added.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 29, 2010, 06:36:21 PM
Did tasker get off with his red card did anyone hear
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 30, 2010, 12:55:11 AM
Quote from: back off the net on September 29, 2010, 06:36:21 PM
Did tasker get off with his red card did anyone hear

I thought you might know being a Cullyhanna man  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tyroneman on September 30, 2010, 06:54:13 AM
Quote."There the referee explains every decision. In GAA if you question a referee's decision you are likely to get a booking. 

And if a ref explained his decisions here he would still get a mouthful of abuse. Until the attitude of the players/supporters/coaches changes it will always be like that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sammymaguire on September 30, 2010, 08:12:38 AM
Tis feisty on here lads, the Armagh brethren at odds with each other  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 30, 2010, 09:30:42 AM
Quote from: sammymaguire on September 30, 2010, 08:12:38 AM
Tis feisty on here lads, the Armagh brethren at odds with each other  :-\

It's only between 2 clubs!  :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on September 30, 2010, 09:52:59 AM
Seen on the hoganstand web site yesterday that McGurn is working with the clare footballers next year, is he with armagh as well?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 30, 2010, 10:37:57 AM
Quote from: gander on September 30, 2010, 09:52:59 AM
Seen on the hoganstand web site yesterday that McGurn is working with the clare footballers next year, is he with armagh as well?

It can't be permanent... he's under contract with Armagh surely?

He was working with the Ulster contingent of the Ireland squad in Moy last night...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hound of ulster on September 30, 2010, 11:01:01 AM
anyone know how the div2 games went last night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on September 30, 2010, 12:11:32 PM
Quote from: gander on September 30, 2010, 09:52:59 AM
Seen on the hoganstand web site yesterday that McGurn is working with the clare footballers next year, is he with armagh as well?
as abba would say " money money money " i think he will be with armagh next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on September 30, 2010, 12:17:50 PM
Donal Murtagh's take on it. Sounds like McGurn might be drawing up a few training programmes and the likes for the Clare boys. Nothing that should affect his work in Armagh too much.

QuoteMurtagh adamant McGurn will stay

Thursday September 30 2010

ARMAGH selector Donal Murtagh is confident that renowned fitness trainer Mike McGurn will remain with the Orchard County in 2011, despite reports linking him with Clare.

Former Ireland rugby team trainer McGurn served in an advisory capacity to Clare and Kilmurry-Ibrickane manager Micheal McDermott during the Banner County outfit's run to this year's All-Ireland Club final defeat against Antrim's St Gall's.

But the Crossmaglen Rangers man is mystified by the reports stating that McGurn, who will also train Anthony Tohill's International Rules team, is going to be part of Clare's set-up for next season.

"I was talking to (Armagh manager) Paddy O'Rourke at the weekend and he never mentioned a thing about Mike going to Clare. If that was the case, I'm sure that Paddy would have said something about it," Murtagh said.

"Mike lives in Belfast and with the distance involved in travelling, I'd say that working with Clare would be a non-runner for him. As far as I was aware, Mike was going to be with Armagh for a few years, and the only way I could see him being involved with Clare would be merely on an advisory basis."

Irish Independent
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on September 30, 2010, 03:11:34 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on September 30, 2010, 11:01:01 AM
anyone know how the div2 games went last night?
Newtown beat the bridge by a point..bridge played all of there subs...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JMohan on September 30, 2010, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: AFS on September 30, 2010, 12:17:50 PM
Donal Murtagh's take on it. Sounds like McGurn might be drawing up a few training programmes and the likes for the Clare boys. Nothing that should affect his work in Armagh too much.

QuoteMurtagh adamant McGurn will stay

Thursday September 30 2010

ARMAGH selector Donal Murtagh is confident that renowned fitness trainer Mike McGurn will remain with the Orchard County in 2011, despite reports linking him with Clare.

Former Ireland rugby team trainer McGurn served in an advisory capacity to Clare and Kilmurry-Ibrickane manager Micheal McDermott during the Banner County outfit's run to this year's All-Ireland Club final defeat against Antrim's St Gall's.

But the Crossmaglen Rangers man is mystified by the reports stating that McGurn, who will also train Anthony Tohill's International Rules team, is going to be part of Clare's set-up for next season.

"I was talking to (Armagh manager) Paddy O'Rourke at the weekend and he never mentioned a thing about Mike going to Clare. If that was the case, I'm sure that Paddy would have said something about it," Murtagh said.

"Mike lives in Belfast and with the distance involved in travelling, I'd say that working with Clare would be a non-runner for him. As far as I was aware, Mike was going to be with Armagh for a few years, and the only way I could see him being involved with Clare would be merely on an advisory basis."

Irish Independent

When I saw this first I thought he had gone to Clare after the fall out from the Dublin game where Dublin just blew Armagh away physically.

It must be just a nixer or something like that.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 30, 2010, 03:48:56 PM
Quote from: JMohan on September 30, 2010, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: AFS on September 30, 2010, 12:17:50 PM
Donal Murtagh's take on it. Sounds like McGurn might be drawing up a few training programmes and the likes for the Clare boys. Nothing that should affect his work in Armagh too much.

QuoteMurtagh adamant McGurn will stay

Thursday September 30 2010

ARMAGH selector Donal Murtagh is confident that renowned fitness trainer Mike McGurn will remain with the Orchard County in 2011, despite reports linking him with Clare.

Former Ireland rugby team trainer McGurn served in an advisory capacity to Clare and Kilmurry-Ibrickane manager Micheal McDermott during the Banner County outfit's run to this year's All-Ireland Club final defeat against Antrim's St Gall's.

But the Crossmaglen Rangers man is mystified by the reports stating that McGurn, who will also train Anthony Tohill's International Rules team, is going to be part of Clare's set-up for next season.

"I was talking to (Armagh manager) Paddy O'Rourke at the weekend and he never mentioned a thing about Mike going to Clare. If that was the case, I'm sure that Paddy would have said something about it," Murtagh said.

"Mike lives in Belfast and with the distance involved in travelling, I'd say that working with Clare would be a non-runner for him. As far as I was aware, Mike was going to be with Armagh for a few years, and the only way I could see him being involved with Clare would be merely on an advisory basis."

Irish Independent

When I saw this first I thought he had gone to Clare after the fall out from the Dublin game where Dublin just blew Armagh away physically.

It must be just a nixer or something like that.
I would say he is trying to maximise income during the close season because he may be out of a job come next summer if the team doesnt shape up, i personally felt we weren`t in as good as shape as when mc closkey was about 
any news on the rumour hughie is pulling the plug on sponsoring the county and have we lined up anyone to replace justy mc nulty
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JMohan on September 30, 2010, 03:54:36 PM
Quote from: naka on September 30, 2010, 03:48:56 PM
Quote from: JMohan on September 30, 2010, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: AFS on September 30, 2010, 12:17:50 PM
Donal Murtagh's take on it. Sounds like McGurn might be drawing up a few training programmes and the likes for the Clare boys. Nothing that should affect his work in Armagh too much.

QuoteMurtagh adamant McGurn will stay

Thursday September 30 2010

ARMAGH selector Donal Murtagh is confident that renowned fitness trainer Mike McGurn will remain with the Orchard County in 2011, despite reports linking him with Clare.

Former Ireland rugby team trainer McGurn served in an advisory capacity to Clare and Kilmurry-Ibrickane manager Micheal McDermott during the Banner County outfit's run to this year's All-Ireland Club final defeat against Antrim's St Gall's.

But the Crossmaglen Rangers man is mystified by the reports stating that McGurn, who will also train Anthony Tohill's International Rules team, is going to be part of Clare's set-up for next season.

"I was talking to (Armagh manager) Paddy O'Rourke at the weekend and he never mentioned a thing about Mike going to Clare. If that was the case, I'm sure that Paddy would have said something about it," Murtagh said.

"Mike lives in Belfast and with the distance involved in travelling, I'd say that working with Clare would be a non-runner for him. As far as I was aware, Mike was going to be with Armagh for a few years, and the only way I could see him being involved with Clare would be merely on an advisory basis."

Irish Independent

When I saw this first I thought he had gone to Clare after the fall out from the Dublin game where Dublin just blew Armagh away physically.

It must be just a nixer or something like that.
I would say he is trying to maximise income during the close season because he may be out of a job come next summer if the team doesnt shape up, i personally felt we weren`t in as good as shape as when mc closkey was about 
any news on the rumour hughie is pulling the plug on sponsoring the county and have we lined up anyone to replace justy mc nulty

I'd agree with the view that Armagh haven't been in as good a shape overall since McCluskeys time and yes, he possibly is trying to maximise income.
I'd heard this was to be HPM's last year any way
And no, no one lined up to replace Justy
And no, there is no intention to replace him either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on September 30, 2010, 05:28:53 PM
I think its time paddy and donal went as well to be honest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on September 30, 2010, 07:38:00 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on September 30, 2010, 03:11:34 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on September 30, 2010, 11:01:01 AM
anyone know how the div2 games went last night?
Newtown beat the bridge by a point..bridge played all of there subs...
c eireann bt st peters
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 30, 2010, 10:39:53 PM
robbies playing sat.sweet..up the f**king pats ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 30, 2010, 10:53:55 PM
Quote from: back off the net on September 30, 2010, 05:28:53 PM
I think its time paddy and donal went as well to be honest.

Why?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: blue on September 30, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Did robbie get his red card overturned?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on September 30, 2010, 11:31:55 PM
Quote from: blue on September 30, 2010, 11:14:08 PM
Did robbie get his red card overturned?
yea..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 01, 2010, 08:30:21 AM
Our National League fixtures for the year. 4 home games which should hopefully increase our chances of staying up if you ignore our pitiful record at the Atheltic Grounds in 2009. Trips to Cork, Mayo and them across the Newry Canal.

NFL Round 1



Sat Feb 5th: Division 1: Armagh v Dublin;


Sun 20 Feb: NFL Div 1 (Rd 2) (2.30):  Armagh v Monaghan

 
Sat 26 Feb:  NFL Div 1 (Rd 3) (7.30): Down v Armagh


Sun 13 March:  NFL Div 1 (Rd 4) (2.30): Mayo v Armagh,


Sunday March 20  NFL Div 1 (Rd 5) (2.30): Armagh v Kerry,

Sunday  April 3   NFL Div 1 (Rd 6) (2.30): Armagh v Galway


Sunday  April  10   NFL Div 1 (Rd 7) (2.30): Cork v Armagh


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on October 01, 2010, 09:04:50 AM
Pity the Cork isn't at home instead of Monaghan or Dublin, but not a bad list. Fixtures seem a bit better spaced out this year. No run of 3 or 4 games on consecutive weekends.

Glad Tasker got off. Should make for a fairly even contest now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 01, 2010, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 01, 2010, 08:30:21 AM
Our National League fixtures for the year. 4 home games which should hopefully increase our chances of staying up if you ignore our pitiful record at the Atheltic Grounds in 2009. Trips to Cork, Mayo and them across the Newry Canal.

NFL Round 1



Sat Feb 5th: Division 1: Armagh v Dublin;


Sun 20 Feb: NFL Div 1 (Rd 2) (2.30):  Armagh v Monaghan

 
Sat 26 Feb:  NFL Div 1 (Rd 3) (7.30): Down v Armagh


Sun 13 March:  NFL Div 1 (Rd 4) (2.30): Mayo v Armagh,


Sunday March 20  NFL Div 1 (Rd 5) (2.30): Armagh v Kerry,

Sunday  April 3   NFL Div 1 (Rd 6) (2.30): Armagh v Galway


Sunday  April  10   NFL Div 1 (Rd 7) (2.30): Cork v Armagh

Super set of fixtures for Armagh... Dublin, Kerry & Galway all in Cross - they'll not enjoy that! (Pity big Joe didn't stay on!)

Couple of wee nice trips to Cork & Mayo too! Can't wait!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mrgaa1 on October 01, 2010, 09:28:10 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 01, 2010, 08:30:21 AM
Our National League fixtures for the year. 4 home games which should hopefully increase our chances of staying up if you ignore our pitiful record at the Atheltic Grounds in 2009. Trips to Cork, Mayo and them across the Newry Canal.

NFL Round 1



Sat Feb 5th: Division 1: Armagh v Dublin;


Sun 20 Feb: NFL Div 1 (Rd 2) (2.30):  Armagh v Monaghan

 
Sat 26 Feb:  NFL Div 1 (Rd 3) (7.30): Down v Armagh


Sun 13 March:  NFL Div 1 (Rd 4) (2.30): Mayo v Armagh,


Sunday March 20  NFL Div 1 (Rd 5) (2.30): Armagh v Kerry,

Sunday  April 3   NFL Div 1 (Rd 6) (2.30): Armagh v Galway


Sunday  April  10   NFL Div 1 (Rd 7) (2.30): Cork v Armagh
where did these fixtures come from?  Not doubting you for one minute - great set of fixtures - but just checking   :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Logan on October 01, 2010, 10:01:32 AM
Would be a shame to see Task miss that one in fairness
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 01, 2010, 12:28:02 PM
Quote from: Logan on October 01, 2010, 10:01:32 AM
Would be a shame to see Task miss that one in fairness

What about Jamie.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 01, 2010, 12:57:09 PM
from de Indo

ARMAGH selector Donal Murtagh is confident that renowned fitness trainer Mike McGurn will remain with the Orchard County in 2011, despite reports linking him with Clare.

Former Ireland rugby team trainer McGurn served in an advisory capacity to Clare and Kilmurry-Ibrickane manager Micheal McDermott during the Banner County outfit's run to this year's All-Ireland Club final defeat against Antrim's St Gall's.

But the Crossmaglen Rangers man is mystified by the reports stating that McGurn, who will also train Anthony Tohill's International Rules team, is going to be part of Clare's set-up for next season.

"I was talking to (Armagh manager) Paddy O'Rourke at the weekend and he never mentioned a thing about Mike going to Clare. If that was the case, I'm sure that Paddy would have said something about it," Murtagh said.

"Mike lives in Belfast and with the distance involved in travelling, I'd say that working with Clare would be a non-runner for him. As far as I was aware, Mike was going to be with Armagh for a few years, and the only way I could see him being involved with Clare would be merely on an advisory basis."
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on October 01, 2010, 01:12:24 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 01, 2010, 09:13:55 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 01, 2010, 08:30:21 AM
Our National League fixtures for the year. 4 home games which should hopefully increase our chances of staying up if you ignore our pitiful record at the Atheltic Grounds in 2009. Trips to Cork, Mayo and them across the Newry Canal.

NFL Round 1



Sat Feb 5th: Division 1: Armagh v Dublin;


Sun 20 Feb: NFL Div 1 (Rd 2) (2.30):  Armagh v Monaghan

 
Sat 26 Feb:  NFL Div 1 (Rd 3) (7.30): Down v Armagh


Sun 13 March:  NFL Div 1 (Rd 4) (2.30): Mayo v Armagh,


Sunday March 20  NFL Div 1 (Rd 5) (2.30): Armagh v Kerry,

Sunday  April 3   NFL Div 1 (Rd 6) (2.30): Armagh v Galway


Sunday  April  10   NFL Div 1 (Rd 7) (2.30): Cork v Armagh

Super set of fixtures for Armagh... Dublin, Kerry & Galway all in Cross - they'll not enjoy that! (Pity big Joe didn't stay on!)

Couple of wee nice trips to Cork & Mayo too! Can't wait!
Would the games not be in the Athletic grounds - surely the work will be finished by then
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on October 01, 2010, 01:17:03 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 01, 2010, 01:12:24 PM
Would the games not be in the Athletic grounds - surely the work will be finished by then

The Dublin game is a Saturday night one. Since Cross doesn't have floodlights, I'd see that as an indication that the Athletic Grounds is expected to be open.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 01, 2010, 02:56:47 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 01, 2010, 01:17:03 PM
Quote from: BenDover on October 01, 2010, 01:12:24 PM
Would the games not be in the Athletic grounds - surely the work will be finished by then

The Dublin game is a Saturday night one. Since Cross doesn't have floodlights, I'd see that as an indication that the Athletic Grounds is expected to be open.
all games are going to be in the athletic grounds and the ground will be ready by the end of november. all future armagh games and clubs championship games from the new year will be in the athletic grounds to maximise income and attendances according to a county board source to a member of our club. offfical opening of the new stand and facilities will be on the night of the dublin game i would say.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 01, 2010, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on September 30, 2010, 10:39:53 PM
robbies playing sat.sweet..up the f**king pats ;D
there goes the theory that says only cross swing decisions with the county board. mc cooey should have been cited instead. pressure on pats now with cross missing their 2 main scoring threats due to suspension. ps what do st. pats have on the ccc ,suspensions overturned a few times now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on October 01, 2010, 03:18:45 PM

I guess the only obligation cullyhanna had was to prove the innocence of tasker. it's the ccc's job to in turn cite McCooey surely?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 01, 2010, 03:36:29 PM
How did they prove the innocence of Tasker ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 01, 2010, 05:35:49 PM
3 ref reports that where watching the game wheer sent into say that tasker done nothing more than a yellow card
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 01, 2010, 06:15:42 PM
Fair enough then .

On another note what are the directions to callanbridge coming in from lurgan? do you head for the harps pitch?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on October 01, 2010, 07:18:42 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 01, 2010, 06:15:42 PM
Fair enough then .

On another note what are the directions to callanbridge coming in from lurgan? do you head for the harps pitch?

- Coming in Portadown road at roundabout with Centra on far side, take left.
- Follow road on round past the top of the mall and stay in lane for Monaghan.
- Go past hotel and through set of lights
- Continue on straight pasing Athletic grounds below you to left
- At St Brigids school turn right, just before the spar shop
- 100+ yards down that road on your left after the pub

On Sat Nav look for Nursery Road, Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 01, 2010, 09:36:52 PM
good man cheers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 01, 2010, 11:03:59 PM
Looking forward to the match tomorrow evening.I'm glad to see tasker is playing cause he was worth the £8 last week alone along with ciaran mc keever.May the best team win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 02, 2010, 12:57:34 AM
Quote from: back off the net on October 01, 2010, 11:03:59 PM
Looking forward to the match tomorrow evening.I'm glad to see tasker is playing cause he was worth the £8 last week alone along with ciaran mc keever.May the best team win

Do you mean that. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on October 02, 2010, 02:46:08 PM
Quote from: back off the net on October 01, 2010, 11:03:59 PM
Looking forward to the match tomorrow evening.I'm glad to see tasker is playing cause he was worth the £8 last week alone along with ciaran mc keever.May the best team win
R u dating mc keever...christ u never shut up bout him......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 02, 2010, 05:06:24 PM
Cross 1-02 Pats 0-03 HT scrappy game this week
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 02, 2010, 05:22:24 PM
Any update??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 02, 2010, 05:49:12 PM
FT cross 1-08 Pats 0-10
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 02, 2010, 05:56:12 PM
Typical
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 02, 2010, 06:16:43 PM
Quote from: back off the net on October 01, 2010, 05:35:49 PM
3 ref reports that where watching the game wheer sent into say that tasker done nothing more than a yellow card

The conspiracy didn't work. ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 02, 2010, 06:19:18 PM
We were in control of that match with five minutes to go and we threw it away. Don't know what to say. Desperately disappointed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 02, 2010, 06:29:28 PM
The winning of the game was starting James Morgan on Robbie Tasker.
He held him scoreless from play, unlike last week when he scored 2-4.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 02, 2010, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 02, 2010, 06:29:28 PM
The winning of the game was starting James Morgan on Robbie Tasker.
He held him scoreless from play, unlike last week when he scored 2-4.

No harm to ya but that's not really what happened. Robbie didn't score because he hardly had a decent ball delivered into him all day. Without a decent supply of ball, no corner forward can perform. They'll not be too worried tonight but Christ Cross are very very cyncial. Don't think I've ever seen a team as systemically wedded to constant fouling. Nothing particularly dirty but just constant fouling. How Stephen Kernan didn't join the other half of his team-mates in the book I'll never know.

Can't stomach writing much more about that. I'll get a report up tomorrow - am away to the club to drown my sorrows.

Congratulation to Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on October 02, 2010, 07:49:29 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 02, 2010, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 02, 2010, 06:29:28 PM
The winning of the game was starting James Morgan on Robbie Tasker.
He held him scoreless from play, unlike last week when he scored 2-4.

No harm to ya but that's not really what happened. Robbie didn't score because he hardly had a decent ball delivered into him all day. Without a decent supply of ball, no corner forward can perform.

Would agree there. A lot of Cullyhanna's attacks seemed to break down before the final ball was played, and a lot of the ball that did go in was high and wild and suited defenders.

Definitely not a patch on last week, but it was still fairly exciting and enjoyable. Conditions were shite and there was a fair bit of niggle just bubbling under the surface. The ref was a bit fussy too. Two best players for me were the St. Pat's fullback and Stephen Kernan.

Dromintee have a hell of a chance in the final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 02, 2010, 08:19:38 PM
NoTAC but a Cullyhanna giving off about a team fouling against them is a small bit rich. Have some grace about yourself!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 02, 2010, 09:09:29 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 02, 2010, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 02, 2010, 06:29:28 PM
The winning of the game was starting James Morgan on Robbie Tasker.
He held him scoreless from play, unlike last week when he scored 2-4.

No harm to ya but that's not really what happened. Robbie didn't score because he hardly had a decent ball delivered into him all day. Without a decent supply of ball, no corner forward can perform. They'll not be too worried tonight but Christ Cross are very very cyncial. Don't think I've ever seen a team as systemically wedded to constant fouling. Nothing particularly dirty but just constant fouling. How Stephen Kernan didn't join the other half of his team-mates in the book I'll never know.

Can't stomach writing much more about that. I'll get a report up tomorrow - am away to the club to drown my sorrows.

Congratulation to Cross.
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 02, 2010, 09:15:06 PM
btw, who won the half time draw?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 02, 2010, 10:04:10 PM
Cross won the half time draw too, or so the announcement said.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 02, 2010, 10:13:14 PM
Pints you are in with a shout for post of the year lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 02, 2010, 11:23:36 PM
Well done to cross they took there chances near the end when they counted most as cullyhanna never.Liam o hare had a great chance to put st pats 2 ahead with 2 Min's of nor time left and kicked it wide from 20 yards the ball goes down the field from the kick out Francie was touched and the ref give him a 14 free kicked that was the big call to me near the end.Cullyhanna management must take a look at them self's on a few things.1. playing 2,3 forwards in the first half into the scoring goals with Francie playing a sweeper.2.Not starting Casey i dint understand that i know he was poor last week but he is a player that will get u points and win the dirty ball and that was shown when he came on.3.Putting on a injury ed player in front off fit players did not make seance only lasted 15 min. I still think there is a c.ship in that cullyhanna team if the right driver was behind them.I still think cross will win the final handy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 02, 2010, 11:41:18 PM
OK then kicking down hill.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on October 03, 2010, 12:23:53 AM
Quote from: AFS on October 02, 2010, 07:49:29 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 02, 2010, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 02, 2010, 06:29:28 PM
The winning of the game was starting James Morgan on Robbie Tasker.
He held him scoreless from play, unlike last week when he scored 2-4.

No harm to ya but that's not really what happened. Robbie didn't score because he hardly had a decent ball delivered into him all day. Without a decent supply of ball, no corner forward can perform.
What a whinging post!! Cross are a better football team Cullyhanna could only win with a cynical game plan. Cross have better footballers.

Would agree there. A lot of Cullyhanna's attacks seemed to break down before the final ball was played, and a lot of the ball that did go in was high and wild and suited defenders.

Definitely not a patch on last week, but it was still fairly exciting and enjoyable. Conditions were shite and there was a fair bit of niggle just bubbling under the surface. The ref was a bit fussy too. Two best players for me were the St. Pat's fullback and Stephen Kernan.

Dromintee have a hell of a chance in the final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on October 03, 2010, 09:30:25 AM
Quote from: back off the net on October 02, 2010, 11:23:36 PM
Well done to cross they took there chances near the end when they counted most as cullyhanna never.Liam o hare had a great chance to put st pats 2 ahead with 2 Min's of nor time left and kicked it wide from 20 yards the ball goes down the field from the kick out Francie was touched and the ref give him a 14 free kicked that was the big call to me near the end.Cullyhanna management must take a look at them self's on a few things.1. playing 2,3 forwards in the first half into the scoring goals with Francie playing a sweeper.2.Not starting Casey i dint understand that i know he was poor last week but he is a player that will get u points and win the dirty ball and that was shown when he came on.3.Putting on a injury ed player in front off fit players did not make seance only lasted 15 min. I still think there is a c.ship in that cullyhanna team if the right driver was behind them.I still think cross will win the final handy
Think that was Eugene Casey with his right foot although as you say he did play well when he came on.
Suppose you could say that Morgan marked Tasker well, not a lot of it was legal, but if you can get away with it fair play.
I was right behind the top goals and Franny Hanratty clearly threw the ball in the square for the Cross goal.
Thought AK really stood up to be counted in those last few minutes and probably won the game for Cross.
Hope Dromintee don't persist with this crap over playing the game in Cross, it's in their own interests to concentrate on the football as this Cross team are only a shadow of the great team they had.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2010, 09:58:41 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 03, 2010, 12:23:53 AM
Quote from: AFS on October 02, 2010, 07:49:29 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 02, 2010, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 02, 2010, 06:29:28 PM
The winning of the game was starting James Morgan on Robbie Tasker.
He held him scoreless from play, unlike last week when he scored 2-4.

No harm to ya but that's not really what happened. Robbie didn't score because he hardly had a decent ball delivered into him all day. Without a decent supply of ball, no corner forward can perform.
What a whinging post!! Cross are a better football team Cullyhanna could only win with a cynical game plan. Cross have better footballers.

Would agree there. A lot of Cullyhanna's attacks seemed to break down before the final ball was played, and a lot of the ball that did go in was high and wild and suited defenders.

Definitely not a patch on last week, but it was still fairly exciting and enjoyable. Conditions were shite and there was a fair bit of niggle just bubbling under the surface. The ref was a bit fussy too. Two best players for me were the St. Pat's fullback and Stephen Kernan.

Dromintee have a hell of a chance in the final

Were you at the match or, like some notable others, are you content to make wild and inaccurate statements which you are utterly incapable of backing up?

Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 02, 2010, 09:09:29 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 02, 2010, 07:14:49 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 02, 2010, 06:29:28 PM
The winning of the game was starting James Morgan on Robbie Tasker.
He held him scoreless from play, unlike last week when he scored 2-4.

No harm to ya but that's not really what happened. Robbie didn't score because he hardly had a decent ball delivered into him all day. Without a decent supply of ball, no corner forward can perform. They'll not be too worried tonight but Christ Cross are very very cyncial. Don't think I've ever seen a team as systemically wedded to constant fouling. Nothing particularly dirty but just constant fouling. How Stephen Kernan didn't join the other half of his team-mates in the book I'll never know.

Can't stomach writing much more about that. I'll get a report up tomorrow - am away to the club to drown my sorrows.

Congratulation to Cross.
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So what did you think of the game Pints?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2010, 10:09:54 AM
Quote from: hardstation on October 02, 2010, 11:27:56 PM
Quote from: back off the net on October 02, 2010, 11:23:36 PM
Well done to cross they took there chances near the end when they counted most as cullyhanna never.Liam o hare had a great chance to put st pats 2 ahead with 2 Min's of nor time left and kicked it wide from 20 yards the ball goes down the field from the kick out Francie was touched and the ref give him a 14 free kicked that was the big call to me near the end.Cullyhanna management must take a look at them self's on a few things.1. playing 2,3 forwards in the first half into the scoring goals with Francie playing a sweeper.2.Not starting Casey i dint understand that i know he was poor last week but he is a player that will get u points and win the dirty ball and that was shown when he came on.3.Putting on a injury ed player in front off fit players did not make seance only lasted 15 min. I still think there is a c.ship in that cullyhanna team if the right driver was behind them.I still think cross will win the final handy
The scoring goals?

You mightn't be used to similar surroundings in Belfast but the pitch in Silverbridge has a 10 foot drop in it from one set to goals to the other.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 6Sams on October 03, 2010, 10:15:22 AM
Is that another excuse?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 03, 2010, 10:30:33 AM
Quote
So what did you think of the game Pints?
Is that what you're reduced to?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2010, 10:52:11 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 03, 2010, 10:30:33 AM
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So what did you think of the game Pints?
Is that what you're reduced to?

I am simply referring to the fact that it is somewhat difficult for anybody who has not attended a Senior Championship in the preceding 2 or 3 years to pass credible comment on circumstances arising yesterday. Had you been at the match, even somebody like yourself could have understood Crossmaglen's tactics. You weren't at that game therefore you cannot reasonably make comment. That is all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 03, 2010, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2010, 10:52:11 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 03, 2010, 10:30:33 AM
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So what did you think of the game Pints?
Is that what you're reduced to?

I am simply referring to the fact that it is somewhat difficult for anybody who has not attended a Senior Championship in the preceding 2 or 3 years to pass credible comment on circumstances arising yesterday. Had you been at the match, even somebody like yourself could have understood Crossmaglen's tactics. You weren't at that game therefore you cannot reasonably make comment. That is all.
I have no doubt you're right about Cross tactics but I think it's a bit rich for someone from Cullyhanna to be complaining when their players are fouled.
You don't have to be at the game to know that.
I also recall you commenting and making allegations (after about 6 months) about a game you weren't at but don't make me drag all that up again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2010, 11:07:59 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 03, 2010, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2010, 10:52:11 AM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on October 03, 2010, 10:30:33 AM
Quote
So what did you think of the game Pints?
Is that what you're reduced to?

I am simply referring to the fact that it is somewhat difficult for anybody who has not attended a Senior Championship in the preceding 2 or 3 years to pass credible comment on circumstances arising yesterday. Had you been at the match, even somebody like yourself could have understood Crossmaglen's tactics. You weren't at that game therefore you cannot reasonably make comment. That is all.
I have no doubt you're right about Cross tactics but I think it's a bit rich for someone from Cullyhanna to be complaining when their players are fouled.
You don't have to be at the game to know that.
I also recall you commenting and making allegations (after about 6 months) about a game you weren't at but don't make me drag all that up again.

A blatant example of an exaggeration.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 03, 2010, 11:40:34 AM
Are mullaghbawn playing maghery now at noon??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 03, 2010, 02:04:23 PM
Ballyhegan 1.11 - Newtown 0.10
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardchieftain on October 03, 2010, 02:16:49 PM
That was quick Goats.
Decent performance from the Davitts even though they drifted out of the game on occasion. It should have been more comfortable but a vital win, so no complaints. Still in with a shout of survival then.

Anyone know why it was such an early start ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 03, 2010, 02:33:51 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 03, 2010, 11:40:34 AM
Are mullaghbawn playing maghery now at noon??
Maghery dnf. Apparently.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on October 03, 2010, 03:42:01 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 03, 2010, 02:04:23 PM
Ballyhegan 1.11 - Newtown 0.10

Massive result for Bhegan and good to see after the bridge throwing the newtown game during the week.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 03, 2010, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 03, 2010, 02:33:51 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 03, 2010, 11:40:34 AM
Are mullaghbawn playing maghery now at noon??
Maghery dnf. Apparently.

Disgraceful thats all i can say. We knew a month ago that Maghery were giving the points to Mullaghbawn and also i asked a member of our club to raise this with the county board but of course i was told there was no way we could prove it. Members of both teams knew what was happening today and the Co Board would need to do something about this but of course it's only the Clans so it's fine to give teams in the relegation area the points. Get the Clans down at all costs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 03, 2010, 04:18:51 PM
Og's beat the Clans in the B league play off's today by about 7pts. Overall they deserved their victory and i wish them well in the next round.

P.S. Og's full back was dodgy ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on October 03, 2010, 04:32:42 PM
as were the decisions from the clanns manager  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 03, 2010, 04:34:58 PM
The bridge threw newtown no points.
we lost by 1 point. are lads that trained all year not entitled to a game at some stage.
No one yapping last year when we were on the verge of relegation.
the league table tells no lies. get over it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 03, 2010, 04:35:19 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 03, 2010, 04:18:51 PM
Og's beat the Clans in the B league play off's today by about 7pts. Overall they deserved their victory and i wish them well in the next round.

P.S. Og's full back was dodgy ;)

::) That's debatable!!!

I thought the management decisions for the clans were the defining factor.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2010, 05:35:46 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 03, 2010, 04:17:21 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 03, 2010, 02:33:51 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 03, 2010, 11:40:34 AM
Are mullaghbawn playing maghery now at noon??
Maghery dnf. Apparently.

Disgraceful thats all i can say. We knew a month ago that Maghery were giving the points to Mullaghbawn and also i asked a member of our club to raise this with the county board but of course i was told there was no way we could prove it. Members of both teams knew what was happening today and the Co Board would need to do something about this but of course it's only the Clans so it's fine to give teams in the relegation area the points. Get the Clans down at all costs.

There's no anti-Clans conspiracy amongst officialdom I'm sure but you do have a right to be annoyed. What way is the table now? Mullaghbán two points behind Clans with one game to play whilst Clans have two matches left?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 03, 2010, 05:48:19 PM
Yeah that's the way it stands at the moment tac. Maghery and mullaghbawn have now conspired as did cruppen and the Sarsfields. Both games have directly effected us and there is absolutely f**k all we can do about it. Makes you angry when we have always fulfilled all crucial fixtures
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2010, 05:52:29 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 03, 2010, 05:48:19 PM
Yeah that's the way it stands at the moment tac. Maghery and mullaghbawn have now conspired as did cruppen and the Sarsfields. Both games have directly effected us and there is absolutely f**k all we can do about it. Makes you angry when we have always fulfilled all crucial fixtures

Who are your last two matches against?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on October 03, 2010, 06:05:22 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 03, 2010, 05:48:19 PM
Yeah that's the way it stands at the moment tac. Maghery and mullaghbawn have now conspired as did cruppen and the Sarsfields. Both games have directly effected us and there is absolutely f**k all we can do about it. Makes you angry when we have always fulfilled all crucial fixtures

you are 100% correct and for those reasons id like to see the table reamin how it stands...cruppen failed to show against us today also! there should be some sort of punishment next year along the lines of points deduction...there is another issue here also as the gate recipts are an integral part to the income of some clubs and are missed when they arent there!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 03, 2010, 06:05:35 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2010, 05:52:29 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 03, 2010, 05:48:19 PM
Yeah that's the way it stands at the moment tac. Maghery and mullaghbawn have now conspired as did cruppen and the Sarsfields. Both games have directly effected us and there is absolutely f**k all we can do about it. Makes you angry when we have always fulfilled all crucial fixtures

Who are your last two matches against?
Culloville and Dromintee.
Winsam, I don't think any blame can be levelled at Sarsfields as Cruppen also did a no show today v Dromintee. Personally I would like to see both teams fined and Maghery docked 2pts next season and Cruppen docked 4. I remember around this time last year Maghery had a right big squad gathered up for the playoff with Granemore, why is this this year any different?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on October 03, 2010, 06:11:40 PM
Intermediate Final: Sarsfields 1-15 Culloville 0-11

Sarsfields were comfortable enough for most of the game. They'd opened a decent lead after about 15 minutes and Culloville never got within three or four points of them. Culloville wasted far too many chances in the first half when they had the wind. Sarsfields were much more efficient in attack and fully deserved the win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 03, 2010, 06:15:37 PM
granemore beat ceide by 7pts  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2010, 06:19:22 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 03, 2010, 06:11:40 PM
Intermediate Final: Sarsfields 1-15 Culloville 0-11

Sarsfields were comfortable enough for most of the game. They'd opened a decent lead after about 15 minutes and Culloville never got within three or four points of them. Culloville wasted far too many chances in the first half when they had the wind. Sarsfields were much more efficient in attack and fully deserved the win.

Is that 3 of the last 4 final Culloville have lost? Very tough on them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on October 03, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
something like that alright...not totally sure but someone tld me that it was 3 in a row not to sure as i dont really follow the intermediate that much :-[ i would think they could do with a change in senery and move up to senior championship now and give that a lash as they were competing effectivly in div1 this year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2010, 08:55:52 PM
Quote from: centrefield on October 03, 2010, 08:31:55 PM
something like that alright...not totally sure but someone tld me that it was 3 in a row not to sure as i dont really follow the intermediate that much :-[ i would think they could do with a change in senery and move up to senior championship now and give that a lash as they were competing effectivly in div1 this year

I think Whitecross beat them in the 2007 final. We beat them in 2008 and last year I think Newtown were in the final but not against Culloville, possibly Keady?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on October 03, 2010, 08:59:13 PM
Just reading of no shows as I was trying to figure out who cross played in county final...

Is there not a fine for no shows / dnfs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 03, 2010, 09:23:28 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 03, 2010, 08:59:13 PM
Just reading of no shows as I was trying to figure out who cross played in county final...

Is there not a fine for no shows / dnfs?

Cross play Dromintee in final.
They will turn up alright. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thebandit on October 03, 2010, 10:09:16 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2010, 06:19:22 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 03, 2010, 06:11:40 PM
Intermediate Final: Sarsfields 1-15 Culloville 0-11

Sarsfields were comfortable enough for most of the game. They'd opened a decent lead after about 15 minutes and Culloville never got within three or four points of them. Culloville wasted far too many chances in the first half when they had the wind. Sarsfields were much more efficient in attack and fully deserved the win.

Is that 3 of the last 4 final Culloville have lost? Very tough on them.



Yeah, that's 3out of the last 4....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 04, 2010, 01:07:47 AM
Quote from: centrefield on October 03, 2010, 06:05:22 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 03, 2010, 05:48:19 PM
Yeah that's the way it stands at the moment tac. Maghery and mullaghbawn have now conspired as did cruppen and the Sarsfields. Both games have directly effected us and there is absolutely f**k all we can do about it. Makes you angry when we have always fulfilled all crucial fixtures

you are 100% correct and for those reasons id like to see the table reamin how it stands...cruppen failed to show against us today also! there should be some sort of punishment next year along the lines of points deduction...there is another issue here also as the gate recipts are an integral part to the income of some clubs and are missed when they arent there!


I know what would stop this bullshit - the next team not to field a team for whatever reason should be placed in division 4 for the following year. I dont care who your allegiance is to lads but sport is about fair competition and the tables should reflect the position of the lads on the pitch not the politics off it. I think this is f**king disgisting no matter what club your from!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on October 04, 2010, 01:31:29 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2010, 06:19:22 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 03, 2010, 06:11:40 PM
Intermediate Final: Sarsfields 1-15 Culloville 0-11

Sarsfields were comfortable enough for most of the game. They'd opened a decent lead after about 15 minutes and Culloville never got within three or four points of them. Culloville wasted far too many chances in the first half when they had the wind. Sarsfields were much more efficient in attack and fully deserved the win.

Is that 3 of the last 4 final Culloville have lost? Very tough on them.
They are a one trick pony. When Ciaran Hatzer quits they are finished. Sarsfields gave them a lesson in football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 04, 2010, 08:14:41 AM
Quote from: ardchieftain on October 03, 2010, 02:16:49 PM
That was quick Goats.
Decent performance from the Davitts even though they drifted out of the game on occasion. It should have been more comfortable but a vital win, so no complaints. Still in with a shout of survival then.

Anyone know why it was such an early start ?

First 15 minutes of the second half won the game. Defence have been impressing!
It's very tight at the bottom.

Madden in the last game now - winner stays up!
Keady have a few games to play - but they're against teams with nothing to play for.
Newtown aren't great, but not sure who they play now. (Keady is one of their games!)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 04, 2010, 04:15:11 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 04, 2010, 08:14:41 AM
Quote from: ardchieftain on October 03, 2010, 02:16:49 PM
That was quick Goats.
Decent performance from the Davitts even though they drifted out of the game on occasion. It should have been more comfortable but a vital win, so no complaints. Still in with a shout of survival then.

Anyone know why it was such an early start ?

First 15 minutes of the second half won the game. Defence have been impressing!
It's very tight at the bottom.

Madden in the last game now - winner stays up!
Keady have a few games to play - but they're against teams with nothing to play for.
Newtown aren't great, but not sure who they play now. (Keady is one of their games!)
would rather see madden stay up . st michaels also have the harps at home .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 04, 2010, 04:18:06 PM
What date is the co final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on October 04, 2010, 04:56:51 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 04, 2010, 04:18:06 PM
What date is the co final?

17th october
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 04, 2010, 10:08:40 PM
Is that backofthenet gone 'til next year then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 05, 2010, 10:13:02 AM
Quote from: torres on October 04, 2010, 04:15:11 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 04, 2010, 08:14:41 AM
Quote from: ardchieftain on October 03, 2010, 02:16:49 PM
That was quick Goats.
Decent performance from the Davitts even though they drifted out of the game on occasion. It should have been more comfortable but a vital win, so no complaints. Still in with a shout of survival then.

Anyone know why it was such an early start ?

First 15 minutes of the second half won the game. Defence have been impressing!
It's very tight at the bottom.

Madden in the last game now - winner stays up!
Keady have a few games to play - but they're against teams with nothing to play for.
Newtown aren't great, but not sure who they play now. (Keady is one of their games!)
would rather see madden stay up . st michaels also have the harps at home .

Cheers!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: blue on October 05, 2010, 03:46:29 PM
Think madden could go down now,I'd say both keady n Newtown will b safe,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardchieftain on October 05, 2010, 08:38:18 PM
Updated league tables and remaining fixtures , anyone ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 05, 2010, 09:20:34 PM
http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/armagh-acl-tables-sunday-3-october-2010-a-791/

Armagh ACL Tables as at Sunday 3 October 2010

Division I
Team P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 19 18 0 1 36 (Champions)
Maghery 22 10 4 8 24
Pearse Og 20 10 2 8 22
Carrickcruppen 20 10 1 9 21
St Patrick's 20 9 3 8 21
Culloville 18 10 0 8 20
Dromintee 19 9 1 9 19
Whitecross 20 9 1 10 19
Sarsfields 20 8 1 11 17
Clan na Gael 20 8 0 11 16
Mullaghbawn 21 7 0 14 14
Killeavy 21 4 2 15 10 (Relegated)

Division II
Team P W D L Pts
Ballymacnab 22 18 1 3 37 (Winners + Promoted)
Armagh Harps 21 15 1 5 31
Granemore 21 15 1 5 31
Wolfe Tone 19 10 2 7 22
Clann Eireann 20 9 2 9 20
Tir na nÓg 21 8 3 10 19
Silverbridge 21 8 2 11 18
Ballyhegan 21 7 2 12 16
Madden 21 7 2 12 16
St Michael's 20 7 1 12 15
Keady 18 6 2 10 14
St Peter's 19 2 1 16 5 (Relegated)

Division III
Team P W D L Pts
Shane O'Neill's 21 17 0 3 36 (Winners & Promoted)
Tullysaran 20 15 1 4 31 (Promoted)
Annaghmore 21 11 0 10 22
Middletown 21 10 2 9 22
Collegeland 22 10 1 11 21
St Paul's 18 9 2 7 20
Forkhill 20 9 0 11 18
An Port Mor 21 7 3 11 17
Lissummon 21 6 4 11 16
Clonmore 20 6 3 11 15
Belleek 20 6 2 12 14
Eire Og 21 5 4 12 14

Division IV
Team P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen II 22 19 1 2 39 (Winners & Promoted)
Grange 21 17 1 4 35
Dorsey Emmett's 21 16 1 4 33
Killeavy II 21 16 1 4 33
Derrynoose 21 15 1 5 31
St Patrick's II 22 11 1 10 23
Corrinshego 21 8 2 11 18
Clady 22 7 2 13 16
Killean 21 5 4 12 14
O'Hanlon's 22 4 3 15 11
Mullabrack 22 1 1 20 3
Phelim Brady's 22 1 0 21 2


http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/armagh-club-fixtures-w-e-sunday-10-october-2010-a-792/

Armagh Club Fixtures for w/e Sunday 10 October 2010

Saturday 9 October
Armagh 'B' League Southern – Semi-final (5.00)
St Michael's v Dromintee (Ronan Quigley)

Sunday 10 October
Armagh Junior Football Championship – Final (3.30)
Grange v Tullysaran (Oliver Hearty) at Crossmaglen
Armagh Division Three Minor Football Championship – Final (2.00)
Ballyhegan v Madden (Owen Reel) at Crossmaglen
ACL – Div. I (12.00)
Dromintee v Mullaghbawn (Seamus O'Neill)
Clan na Gael v Culloville (Jim Slevin)
ACL – Div. II (12.00)
Keady v St Michael's (Kevin McNeice)
Granemore v Wolfe Tone (Kevin Murtagh)
St Peter's v Clann Eireann (Keith Smith)
ACL – Div. III (12.00)
An Port Mor v St Paul's (Damian McConville)
Belleek v Annaghmore (Mickey Leonard)
Clonmore v Lissummon (Jimmy McKee)
Forkhill v Middletown (Vincent O'Neill)
ACL – Div. IV (12.00)
Derrynoose v Killeavy II (Stephen Murray)
Killean v Corrinshego (Joe Murtagh)
Armagh 'B' League Southern – Semi-final (12.00)
Silverbridge v Whitecross (Kevin Gallogly)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 05, 2010, 09:32:02 PM
Anyone else do the run for Autism last Staurday between Newtownhamilton and Lissummon?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 05, 2010, 10:44:46 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 04, 2010, 01:31:29 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 03, 2010, 06:19:22 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 03, 2010, 06:11:40 PM
Intermediate Final: Sarsfields 1-15 Culloville 0-11

Sarsfields were comfortable enough for most of the game. They'd opened a decent lead after about 15 minutes and Culloville never got within three or four points of them. Culloville wasted far too many chances in the first half when they had the wind. Sarsfields were much more efficient in attack and fully deserved the win.

Is that 3 of the last 4 final Culloville have lost? Very tough on them.
They are a one trick pony. When Ciaran Hatzer quits they are finished. Sarsfields gave them a lesson in football.
think thats a bit harsh,they just didnt perform on the day,,sarsfields werent that hot,,if culloville had to have played anything they would have won..colm watters and hatzers younger bro are a massive miss for them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 05, 2010, 11:22:30 PM

Armagh SFC Semi-final St Patrick's 0-10 Crossmaglen Rangers 1-8

Hope, trepidation, fury, joy and ultimately despair were just some of the emotions experienced by followers of St Patrick's during Saturday's tense championship encounter. Having been boosted mid-week by the availability of star corner-forward Robbie Tasker, Cullyhanna made the short trip to Silverbridge in good spirits and full of hope that the team could reach their first county final. St Patrick's couldn't have gotten off to a better start when a magnificent 50m free kick from Ciaran McKeever in the first minute sailed over the crossbar. However their lead was to prove short-lived as a minute later a Crossmaglen attack which appeared to have been broken down resulted in the ball being slipped to David McKenna whose low shot produced the first goal of the match. Francis Hanratty soon extended Rangers' lead but another well-struck Ciaran McKeever free from range kept St Pat's in touch. A long scoreless spell ensued as both sides struggled to cope with the difficulty of wet conditions. St Pat's did kick a number of wides in this period as they vainly attempted to draw level but their forays forward were frequently met by stubborn Crossmaglen resistance and some tough tackling. After 27 minutes, slopping defending resulted in Crossmaglen's second point but a minute later Eugene Casey seized the initiative and fired over his side's first point from play and their third in total. This left the half-time score as St Patrick's 0-3 Crossmaglen Rangers 1-2.

While the first half was a tight affair with scores at a premium, the conditions certainly had a bearing on the fairly poor quality on show. Crossmaglen made effective use of their sweeper system and former county man Francie Bellew was instrumental in ensuring that Cullyhanna struggled to provide their forward line with quality possession.

Early in the second half Ciaran McKeever took a different approach to free-taking, attempting a long range effort from the hands. While the method was different, the result was the same as his previous kicks with the ball sailing over the crossbar. Over elaboration in the Cullyhanna defence soon cost St Pat's another point however seven minutes into the second half, Cullyhanna produced their best move of the match when a patient build-up involving Paudie McCreesh, Tony Donnelly and Eugene Casey released Niall McShane who burst through the Crossmaglen defence to kick an excellent point to bring the deficit down to the minimum. Soon the match was level as Stephen Reel, who had a magnificent match at full back, carried the ball out of defence to initiate an attack which resulted in a Mal Mackin point to draw the sides level for the first time in the match. The team then exchanged points with the Cullyhanna score coming from a Eugene Casey free. With 10 minutes to go David McKenna fired Crossmaglen into the lead again but a minute later Niall McShane was fouled within scoring range and Eugene Casey made no mistake with the resultant free. Two minutes later Barry McConville was fouled and Casey's fourth point of the match put his side into the lead for the first time.

And so the match entered its crucial juncture. With eight minutes on the clock, St Pat's were a point ahead as their supporters dared to imagine that the dream of a county final appearance might actually come true. The team seemed similarly buoyed with optimism as they gained a stranglehold on possession       and surged forward in waves. Unfortunately St Pat's could not convert their dominance of possession into scores and fatally did not extend their advantage. In this stage of the match, Crossmaglen resembled a boxer struggling on the ropes however they withstood the onslaught and replied with some knock-out blows of their own. A free with 3 minutes to go drew the teams level and with a minute left, a patient build-up created the space for a point to be kicked to send Cross into the lead and break Cullyhanna hearts. A minute into injury time a monstrous Aaron Kernan free flew over the bar to give Rangers a two point advantage and deepen the depression of the Cullyhanna followers. A late Robbie Tasker free gave his side hope however when Crossmaglen won possession from the resultant free kick, the game was up for the brave Cullyhanna men.

While disappointment was etched on the faces of all St Patrick's players and supporters, it is not merely consolation to suggest that the players and management should take huge pride in their efforts this year. Over two hours football, St Pat's showed that they are as good as the very best teams in the county and were very unfortunate not to be looking forward to their maiden County final appearance. Sadly, it was not be and we offer sincerest congratulations to Crossmaglen who will now face Dromintee in a fortnight's time. At the beginning of the year, only the most optimistic of observers would have cast Cullyhanna in the role of genuine championship contenders but their performances this season mean that such a tag can be rightly attributed to them. All involved in the squad should realise that with a mixture of young improving players and others in the prime of their careers, the future should be very bright. If the team can retain its players and show the necessary commitment, the holy grail of a County Senior Championship may not be too far away.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 06, 2010, 10:27:49 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 05, 2010, 11:22:30 PM

Armagh SFC Semi-final St Patrick's 0-10 Crossmaglen Rangers 1-8

Hope, trepidation, fury, joy and ultimately despair were just some of the emotions experienced by followers of St Patrick's during Saturday's tense championship encounter. Having been boosted mid-week by the availability of star corner-forward Robbie Tasker, Cullyhanna made the short trip to Silverbridge in good spirits and full of hope that the team could reach their first county final. St Patrick's couldn't have gotten off to a better start when a magnificent 50m free kick from Ciaran McKeever in the first minute sailed over the crossbar. However their lead was to prove short-lived as a minute later a Crossmaglen attack which appeared to have been broken down resulted in the ball being slipped to David McKenna whose low shot produced the first goal of the match. Francis Hanratty soon extended Rangers' lead but another well-struck Ciaran McKeever free from range kept St Pat's in touch. A long scoreless spell ensued as both sides struggled to cope with the difficulty of wet conditions. St Pat's did kick a number of wides in this period as they vainly attempted to draw level but their forays forward were frequently met by stubborn Crossmaglen resistance and some tough tackling. After 27 minutes, slopping defending resulted in Crossmaglen's second point but a minute later Eugene Casey seized the initiative and fired over his side's first point from play and their third in total. This left the half-time score as St Patrick's 0-3 Crossmaglen Rangers 1-2.

While the first half was a tight affair with scores at a premium, the conditions certainly had a bearing on the fairly poor quality on show. Crossmaglen made effective use of their sweeper system and former county man Francie Bellew was instrumental in ensuring that Cullyhanna struggled to provide their forward line with quality possession.

Early in the second half Ciaran McKeever took a different approach to free-taking, attempting a long range effort from the hands. While the method was different, the result was the same as his previous kicks with the ball sailing over the crossbar. Over elaboration in the Cullyhanna defence soon cost St Pat's another point however seven minutes into the second half, Cullyhanna produced their best move of the match when a patient build-up involving Paudie McCreesh, Tony Donnelly and Eugene Casey released Niall McShane who burst through the Crossmaglen defence to kick an excellent point to bring the deficit down to the minimum. Soon the match was level as Stephen Reel, who had a magnificent match at full back, carried the ball out of defence to initiate an attack which resulted in a Mal Mackin point to draw the sides level for the first time in the match. The team then exchanged points with the Cullyhanna score coming from a Eugene Casey free. With 10 minutes to go David McKenna fired Crossmaglen into the lead again but a minute later Niall McShane was fouled within scoring range and Eugene Casey made no mistake with the resultant free. Two minutes later Barry McConville was fouled and Casey's fourth point of the match put his side into the lead for the first time.

And so the match entered its crucial juncture. With eight minutes on the clock, St Pat's were a point ahead as their supporters dared to imagine that the dream of a county final appearance might actually come true. The team seemed similarly buoyed with optimism as they gained a stranglehold on possession       and surged forward in waves. Unfortunately St Pat's could not convert their dominance of possession into scores and fatally did not extend their advantage. In this stage of the match, Crossmaglen resembled a boxer struggling on the ropes however they withstood the onslaught and replied with some knock-out blows of their own. A free with 3 minutes to go drew the teams level and with a minute left, a patient build-up created the space for a point to be kicked to send Cross into the lead and break Cullyhanna hearts. A minute into injury time a monstrous Aaron Kernan free flew over the bar to give Rangers a two point advantage and deepen the depression of the Cullyhanna followers. A late Robbie Tasker free gave his side hope however when Crossmaglen won possession from the resultant free kick, the game was up for the brave Cullyhanna men.

While disappointment was etched on the faces of all St Patrick's players and supporters, it is not merely consolation to suggest that the players and management should take huge pride in their efforts this year. Over two hours football, St Pat's showed that they are as good as the very best teams in the county and were very unfortunate not to be looking forward to their maiden County final appearance. Sadly, it was not be and we offer sincerest congratulations to Crossmaglen who will now face Dromintee in a fortnight's time. At the beginning of the year, only the most optimistic of observers would have cast Cullyhanna in the role of genuine championship contenders but their performances this season mean that such a tag can be rightly attributed to them. All involved in the squad should realise that with a mixture of young improving players and others in the prime of their careers, the future should be very bright. If the team can retain its players and show the necessary commitment, the holy grail of a County Senior Championship may not be too far away.
we were so close..heartbreaking readin that..were a young team and we will be back..up the pats
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 06, 2010, 03:35:19 PM
st. pats wer unlucky but at the end of the day a lot of clubs will be refocusing for next year and will feel they are in with a chance. cross may go on to win this year but they are not the same dominate force as in previous years. this year no mc entees, donaldson or shortt and next year probably no oisin or francey. i think it should also put into perspective the ogs win against a very strong and history seeeking cross last year. in my opion only for the savage injury list going into the granemore game the ogs would be not far away again but I'm sure they will regroup for next year with a fit ronan clarke as well. can anyone explain how robbie got his suspension overturned as a number of rumours are circulating.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 06, 2010, 04:45:39 PM
He got it overturned because Jimmy McKee put in his report the wrong number on Taskers shirt. don't know what number Robbie was wearing but if it was 15 then Jimmy put 13 in his book (or visa versa depending what number Robbie wore). so therefore on a technicality he was aloud to play. Jimmy did have the right name of the player but just the wrong number, there was also confusion that he'd sent the wrong player off but this was not accurate either. He got the right player and he wrote in his report the reason for sending Tasker off.

Is it true that JP Donnelly got 26 weeks of a suspension :o :o Sounds good but sure what good is that as his suspension is up before the league kicks off next season so technically he went unpunished. I also heard JP broke his knuckle/hand when he hit the guy? is that true too?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 06, 2010, 06:52:04 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 06, 2010, 03:35:19 PM
st. pats wer unlucky but at the end of the day a lot of clubs will be refocusing for next year and will feel they are in with a chance. cross may go on to win this year but they are not the same dominate force as in previous years. this year no mc entees, donaldson or shortt and next year probably no oisin or francey. i think it should also put into perspective the ogs win against a very strong and history seeeking cross last year. in my opion only for the savage injury list going into the granemore game the ogs would be not far away again but I'm sure they will regroup for next year with a fit ronan clarke as well. can anyone explain how robbie got his suspension overturned as a number of rumours are circulating.
Not trying to start anything like but....  The Ogs beat a Cross team on the wane, their peak since passed and if Cross had've taken their scores that night they would have won.  Having said that in previous years Cross rode their luck so fair fucks to the Ogs.  If the Ogs get their heads right they will be the dominant force for a few years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 06, 2010, 07:45:07 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 06, 2010, 04:45:39 PM
He got it overturned because Jimmy McKee put in his report the wrong number on Taskers shirt. don't know what number Robbie was wearing but if it was 15 then Jimmy put 13 in his book (or visa versa depending what number Robbie wore). so therefore on a technicality he was aloud to play. Jimmy did have the right name of the player but just the wrong number, there was also confusion that he'd sent the wrong player off but this was not accurate either. He got the right player and he wrote in his report the reason for sending Tasker off.

Is it true that JP Donnelly got 26 weeks of a suspension :o :o Sounds good but sure what good is that as his suspension is up before the league kicks off next season so technically he went unpunished. I also heard JP broke his knuckle/hand when he hit the guy? is that true too?

What does Jimmy Mc Kee work at anyway.?
I thought most people could read and write nowadays. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on October 06, 2010, 07:47:50 PM
jimmy mc kee stated at the replay that he put forward the CORRECT number for tasker.

same old county board ,same old s**t
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on October 07, 2010, 08:49:31 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on October 06, 2010, 07:47:50 PM
jimmy mc kee stated at the replay that he put forward the CORRECT number for tasker.

same old county board ,same old s**t
Can't imagine an experienced ref like Jimmy getting it wrong.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 07, 2010, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: crossfire on October 06, 2010, 07:45:07 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 06, 2010, 04:45:39 PM
He got it overturned because Jimmy McKee put in his report the wrong number on Taskers shirt. don't know what number Robbie was wearing but if it was 15 then Jimmy put 13 in his book (or visa versa depending what number Robbie wore). so therefore on a technicality he was aloud to play. Jimmy did have the right name of the player but just the wrong number, there was also confusion that he'd sent the wrong player off but this was not accurate either. He got the right player and he wrote in his report the reason for sending Tasker off.

Is it true that JP Donnelly got 26 weeks of a suspension :o :o Sounds good but sure what good is that as his suspension is up before the league kicks off next season so technically he went unpunished. I also heard JP broke his knuckle/hand when he hit the guy? is that true too?

What does Jimmy Mc Kee work at anyway.?
I thought most people could read and write nowadays. ???
is,nt he a primary school teacher  :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 07, 2010, 09:43:16 AM
Quote from: torres on October 07, 2010, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: crossfire on October 06, 2010, 07:45:07 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 06, 2010, 04:45:39 PM
He got it overturned because Jimmy McKee put in his report the wrong number on Taskers shirt. don't know what number Robbie was wearing but if it was 15 then Jimmy put 13 in his book (or visa versa depending what number Robbie wore). so therefore on a technicality he was aloud to play. Jimmy did have the right name of the player but just the wrong number, there was also confusion that he'd sent the wrong player off but this was not accurate either. He got the right player and he wrote in his report the reason for sending Tasker off.

Is it true that JP Donnelly got 26 weeks of a suspension :o :o Sounds good but sure what good is that as his suspension is up before the league kicks off next season so technically he went unpunished. I also heard JP broke his knuckle/hand when he hit the guy? is that true too?

What does Jimmy Mc Kee work at anyway.?
I thought most people could read and write nowadays. ???
is,nt he a primary school teacher  :-\

Headmaster...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 07, 2010, 10:52:16 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on October 06, 2010, 07:47:50 PM
jimmy mc kee stated at the replay that he put forward the CORRECT number for tasker.

same old county board ,same old s**t

2,2 JIMMY TOLD ME THAT HIMSELF. I WAS SPEAKING TO HIM AT THE WEEKEND AND HE WASN'T BEST PLAESED WITH Co BOARD FOR OVER RULING HIM.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 07, 2010, 12:31:09 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 07, 2010, 10:52:16 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on October 06, 2010, 07:47:50 PM
jimmy mc kee stated at the replay that he put forward the CORRECT number for tasker.

same old county board ,same old s**t

2,2 JIMMY TOLD ME THAT HIMSELF. I WAS SPEAKING TO HIM AT THE WEEKEND AND HE WASN'T BEST PLAESED WITH Co BOARD FOR OVER RULING HIM.

Why doesn't he go public about it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 07, 2010, 12:48:59 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 07, 2010, 12:31:09 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 07, 2010, 10:52:16 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on October 06, 2010, 07:47:50 PM
jimmy mc kee stated at the replay that he put forward the CORRECT number for tasker.

same old county board ,same old s**t

2,2 JIMMY TOLD ME THAT HIMSELF. I WAS SPEAKING TO HIM AT THE WEEKEND AND HE WASN'T BEST PLAESED WITH Co BOARD FOR OVER RULING HIM.

Why doesn't he go public about it.
yea,, ;Dhe should sell his story to the irish news..lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on October 07, 2010, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: torres on October 07, 2010, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: crossfire on October 06, 2010, 07:45:07 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 06, 2010, 04:45:39 PM
He got it overturned because Jimmy McKee put in his report the wrong number on Taskers shirt. don't know what number Robbie was wearing but if it was 15 then Jimmy put 13 in his book (or visa versa depending what number Robbie wore). so therefore on a technicality he was aloud to play. Jimmy did have the right name of the player but just the wrong number, there was also confusion that he'd sent the wrong player off but this was not accurate either. He got the right player and he wrote in his report the reason for sending Tasker off.

Is it true that JP Donnelly got 26 weeks of a suspension :o :o Sounds good but sure what good is that as his suspension is up before the league kicks off next season so technically he went unpunished. I also heard JP broke his knuckle/hand when he hit the guy? is that true too?

What does Jimmy Mc Kee work at anyway.?
I thought most people could read and write nowadays. ???
is,nt he a primary school teacher  :-\
Headmaster I think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 07, 2010, 02:05:40 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 07, 2010, 12:31:09 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 07, 2010, 10:52:16 AM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on October 06, 2010, 07:47:50 PM
jimmy mc kee stated at the replay that he put forward the CORRECT number for tasker.

same old county board ,same old s**t

2,2 JIMMY TOLD ME THAT HIMSELF. I WAS SPEAKING TO HIM AT THE WEEKEND AND HE WASN'T BEST PLAESED WITH Co BOARD FOR OVER RULING HIM.

Why doesn't he go public about it.

Because he knows he was wrong and doesn't want to embarass himself in front of the county?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 08, 2010, 12:04:23 PM
So Jimmy is human afterall, he made an error. That he did but the Co Board knew that Tasker was the player in question as his name was in Jimmy's book. But that's the way it goes.

I wonder which team will not turn up this weekend :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 08, 2010, 07:54:19 PM
Cross were quite happy that Robbie was able to play as it would have diminished our achievement somewhat if Cullyhanna had been understrength.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 08, 2010, 09:51:07 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 08, 2010, 07:54:19 PM
Cross were quite happy that Robbie was able to play as it would have diminished our achievement somewhat if Cullyhanna had been understrength.
it was the same with us,we wanted cross to have a full strength team,,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 08, 2010, 10:57:03 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 08, 2010, 07:54:19 PM
Cross were quite happy that Robbie was able to play as it would have diminished our achievement somewhat if Cullyhanna had been understrength.

Sure what sort of achievement is it beating a bunch of mediocre wannabes?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on October 08, 2010, 11:00:16 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 07, 2010, 09:43:16 AM
Quote from: torres on October 07, 2010, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: crossfire on October 06, 2010, 07:45:07 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 06, 2010, 04:45:39 PM
He got it overturned because Jimmy McKee put in his report the wrong number on Taskers shirt. don't know what number Robbie was wearing but if it was 15 then Jimmy put 13 in his book (or visa versa depending what number Robbie wore). so therefore on a technicality he was aloud to play. Jimmy did have the right name of the player but just the wrong number, there was also confusion that he'd sent the wrong player off but this was not accurate either. He got the right player and he wrote in his report the reason for sending Tasker off.

Is it true that JP Donnelly got 26 weeks of a suspension :o :o Sounds good but sure what good is that as his suspension is up before the league kicks off next season so technically he went unpunished. I also heard JP broke his knuckle/hand when he hit the guy? is that true too?

What does Jimmy Mc Kee work at anyway.?
I thought most people could read and write nowadays. ???
is,nt he a primary school teacher  :-\

Headmaster...
what school is he headmaster at goats  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on October 09, 2010, 11:32:24 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 08, 2010, 10:57:03 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 08, 2010, 07:54:19 PM
Cross were quite happy that Robbie was able to play as it would have diminished our achievement somewhat if Cullyhanna had been understrength.

Sure what sort of achievement is it beating a bunch of mediocre wannabes?
A bit harsh there. Are you not a Cullyhanna man?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 09, 2010, 02:27:07 PM
Junior Final. Is it true that Peter Rafferty is manager of Tullysarron and he has 2 sons playing for Grange.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on October 09, 2010, 06:21:33 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 09, 2010, 02:27:07 PM
Junior Final. Is it true that Peter Rafferty is manager of Tullysarron and he has 2 sons playing for Grange.

Aye hes been managing them for past 2 years. Gonna be strange for a genuine Grange man through and through, although his influence tomorrow could be minmial as tullysarran will hammer them off the pitch! Been talking to few boys who know Junior football and say it could be embarrassing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mrgaa1 on October 09, 2010, 07:55:35 PM
I think you'll find that if you read the rules on Hearings and appeals that if a referee makes a mistake in his match report the CCC can refer back to the referee for clarification.  I'd suspect that St Pats had other information to use - video, witness's etc...  I wouldn't get hung up on the issue of shirt numbers.  If you recall a few years ago rules were changed to avoid court actions - the DRA arrived and rules were made flexible to avoid court actions.  I'm sure it'll come out eventually.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 09, 2010, 11:32:59 PM
Two ref reports where sent into the county board saying tasker should never have being sent off it was a yellow at the most.The two refs where watching the game so there reports can be taken into account
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on October 10, 2010, 12:09:06 AM

There's no actual room for "reports" from other referees reports in hearings. however, their opinion - as any man's might be - could be considered under "additional inforation".
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 10, 2010, 11:53:30 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 09, 2010, 11:32:24 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 08, 2010, 10:57:03 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 08, 2010, 07:54:19 PM
Cross were quite happy that Robbie was able to play as it would have diminished our achievement somewhat if Cullyhanna had been understrength.

Sure what sort of achievement is it beating a bunch of mediocre wannabes?
A bit harsh there. Are you not a Cullyhanna man?

Its a parody of Crossmaglen's view of us before the semi-final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 10, 2010, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: back off the net on October 09, 2010, 11:32:59 PM
Two ref reports where sent into the county board saying tasker should never have being sent off it was a yellow at the most.The two refs where watching the game so there reports can be taken into account

And who were these spectators cum Adjudicators.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 10, 2010, 02:28:45 PM
Clans beat culloville by 5 points , well done lads despite the efforts of some other teams you have once again secured first division status. Some teams need to take a good look at themselves concerning fixtures
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on October 10, 2010, 02:36:04 PM
Quote from: back off the net on October 09, 2010, 11:32:59 PM
Two ref reports where sent into the county board saying tasker should never have being sent off it was a yellow at the most.The two refs where watching the game so there reports can be taken into account
This is either a new policy within armagh gaa are your full of s$£t

My quess id your full of it!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 10, 2010, 03:57:20 PM
granemore bt w tones
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 10, 2010, 04:46:58 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 10, 2010, 02:28:45 PM
Clans beat culloville by 5 points , well done lads despite the efforts of some other teams you have once again secured first division status. Some teams need to take a good look at themselves concerning fixtures
did culloville put out their subs for dis match??they were missing a few that played in the ifc final last week..i heard that yous done them a favour a few years back and they returned it 2day..any truth in this??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 10, 2010, 04:59:15 PM
We don't do favours for anyone in terms of lying down and giving away crucial points i can only ever remember not fielding for one game a couple of years back but the game meant nothing for the two teams. If it had been crucial we would have fielded. I recall travelling to Silverbridge one saturday afternoon with 14 men to play silverbridge, the game meant nothing to us but if we wouldn't have fielded Portadown would have went down as Silverbridge had organised to play Dromintee a half an hour after us (wouldn't have took a genius to work out who would have won that) We had the league won but went up to Silverbridge and beat them fair and square and the relegation battle reflected fairly. We can't select Cullovilles team but even if they were understrength and late at least they fielded a team. As a result of two teams not fielding this year we have had to wait until the second last game to secure safety. What are the punishments for this ? Nothing it is laughable but can be costly for a club
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 10, 2010, 05:30:21 PM
Quote from: border rabbit on October 09, 2010, 06:21:33 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 09, 2010, 02:27:07 PM
Junior Final. Is it true that Peter Rafferty is manager of Tullysarron and he has 2 sons playing for Grange.

Aye hes been managing them for past 2 years. Gonna be strange for a genuine Grange man through and through, although his influence tomorrow could be minmial as tullysarran will hammer them off the pitch! Been talking to few boys who know Junior football and say it could be embarrassing

Tullysarran boys must have been reading this,

Grange beat them by 4 points today in the junior final,

Some win for them boys
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 10, 2010, 05:39:15 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 10, 2010, 05:30:21 PM
Quote from: border rabbit on October 09, 2010, 06:21:33 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 09, 2010, 02:27:07 PM
Junior Final. Is it true that Peter Rafferty is manager of Tullysarron and he has 2 sons playing for Grange.

Aye hes been managing them for past 2 years. Gonna be strange for a genuine Grange man through and through, although his influence tomorrow could be minmial as tullysarran will hammer them off the pitch! Been talking to few boys who know Junior football and say it could be embarrassing

Tullysarran boys must have been reading this,

Grange beat them by 4 points today in the junior final,

Some win for them boys

I don't know anything about Tullysarron but I was very impressed by Grange when we played them in Grange at the start of the year. I thought they were a very impressive side by Division 4 standards. That said, by July we managed a draw with them at home which was a rare point for us against the division's top sides.

Congratulations to Grange anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 10, 2010, 06:30:16 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 10, 2010, 02:28:45 PM
Clans beat culloville by 5 points , well done lads despite the efforts of some other teams you have once again secured first division status. Some teams need to take a good look at themselves concerning fixtures

Agree with you on the point that teams not turning up at this time of the year not on and penalties of point deductions shouldbe enforced.  dont buy into the conspiracy theory that every1 is out to get the clans though.  teams at this stage of the season are fielding teams for the sake of it and alot of players no more want to be there unfortunately, my own club being a case in point today.  culloville fielded today, but i doubt very much that they were as competitive or had the desire they had in your first meeting? justice appears to have been done though, as killeavey and mullaghbawn should have went down last year and cruppens attitude against the sarsfields was a disgrace.  good luck for next year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 10, 2010, 06:32:51 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 10, 2010, 05:30:21 PM
Quote from: border rabbit on October 09, 2010, 06:21:33 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 09, 2010, 02:27:07 PM
Junior Final. Is it true that Peter Rafferty is manager of Tullysarron and he has 2 sons playing for Grange.

Aye hes been managing them for past 2 years. Gonna be strange for a genuine Grange man through and through, although his influence tomorrow could be minmial as tullysarran will hammer them off the pitch! Been talking to few boys who know Junior football and say it could be embarrassing

congratulations grange good luck in the ulster

Tullysarran boys must have been reading this,

Grange beat them by 4 points today in the junior final,

Some win for them boys
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 10, 2010, 06:36:15 PM
attended the down championship yesterday was very impressed.  £8 in for an intermediate semi and senior semi.  I paid the same into watch 1 game in cross other week for granemore dromintee game.  also a point on their match programme.  was excellent £2, in colour great detail on clubs last meetings, how they got to this stage etc.  far superior to the flimsy a4 page i have received at armagh club championship games this year. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 10, 2010, 06:44:39 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 10, 2010, 06:36:15 PM
attended the down championship yesterday was very impressed.  £8 in for an intermediate semi and senior semi.  I paid the same into watch 1 game in cross other week for granemore dromintee game.  also a point on their match programme.  was excellent £2, in colour great detail on clubs last meetings, how they got to this stage etc.  far superior to the flimsy a4 page i have received at armagh club championship games this year.

In fairness the Armagh versions were free. Agree on the admission prices though, its to Down's credit that they provide double headers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 10, 2010, 07:23:50 PM
Charlie believe me i have heard this from the mouths of a lot of people from certain clubs, particularly in the maghery case mullaghbawn were given guarantees that if it came to the crunch Maghery wouldn't be turning up.  why would they just have said nothing and if it was the case that they were struggling for a team (as they claimed) then the issue wouldn't have arisen. Instead they have been mouthing about it over a month ago gloating at the fact that they can influence the clans going down. I have witnessed it over the years from other teams aswell and these have been eyewitness accounts ie Pearse Og's the year we were relegated. No one is saying it is a conspiracy but it seems that when certain teams see the clans in trouble and they can influence it they have been known to do so. It is obvious that teams would like to see certain teams go down more so than others. I am not sayng that all teams are against us as the majority of teams fulfil their fixtures but there are a select few. I can tell you now that most teams in North Armagh would do all within their power to get the clans relegated. There is a genuine hatred there and it isn't right are keeping with the spirit of our game That includes your own team Charlie they would all take pleasure in it. But it won't be this year. Competition is healthy and so is rivalries but to bring it to the stage that some teams have is out of order. I can also tell you if i was a member of a team that was told to lie down to any team in order to keep another team up or relagate one, firstly i wouldn't be playing and secondly i would be voicing my opinion strongly at the end of it. If it was the clans that had needed points you can bet Maghery would have been in davitt Park with a team But wee apples will grow big and there will be four games next year to settle it in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 10, 2010, 07:45:42 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 10, 2010, 07:23:50 PM
Charlie believe me i have heard this from the mouths of a lot of people from certain clubs, particularly in the maghery case mullaghbawn were given guarantees that if it came to the crunch Maghery wouldn't be turning up.  why would they just have said nothing and if it was the case that they were struggling for a team (as they claimed) then the issue wouldn't have arisen. Instead they have been mouthing about it over a month ago gloating at the fact that they can influence the clans going down. I have witnessed it over the years from other teams aswell and these have been eyewitness accounts ie Pearse Og's the year we were relegated. No one is saying it is a conspiracy but it seems that when certain teams see the clans in trouble and they can influence it they have been known to do so. It is obvious that teams would like to see certain teams go down more so than others. I am not sayng that all teams are against us as the majority of teams fulfil their fixtures but there are a select few. I can tell you now that most teams in North Armagh would do all within their power to get the clans relegated. There is a genuine hatred there and it isn't right are keeping with the spirit of our game That includes your own team Charlie they would all take pleasure in it. But it won't be this year. Competition is healthy and so is rivalries but to bring it to the stage that some teams have is out of order. I can also tell you if i was a member of a team that was told to lie down to any team in order to keep another team up or relagate one, firstly i wouldn't be playing and secondly i would be voicing my opinion strongly at the end of it. If it was the clans that had needed points you can bet Maghery would have been in davitt Park with a team But wee apples will grow big and there will be four games next year to settle it in.

dont see what wolfe tones would have to do with clans getting relegated.  to be honest i would rather you stayed in div 1 as i feel there is weaker teams that come down who we could put it up 2 next year.  would agree teams shouldnt lie down.  harps are probably cursing us today after our inept performance against a team we drew with 6 weeks ago and should have beaten.  boys didnt want to be there today and it is unfortunate for other teams in need of points, though they shouldnt be relying on other teams.  i saw the clans play in maghery on a mon night a few months back and they were excellent, good to see justice done in the end if these rumours are true
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on October 10, 2010, 08:13:33 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 10, 2010, 06:36:15 PM
attended the down championship yesterday was very impressed.  £8 in for an intermediate semi and senior semi.  I paid the same into watch 1 game in cross other week for granemore dromintee game.  also a point on their match programme.  was excellent £2, in colour great detail on clubs last meetings, how they got to this stage etc.  far superior to the flimsy a4 page i have received at armagh club championship games this year.

Not even a team list for the cross / cullyhanna replay
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 10, 2010, 08:15:25 PM
There'll be a more even spread of teams from around the county in Division 1 next year - 3 from the north, 3 from mid-Armagh and 6 from South Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mrgaa1 on October 10, 2010, 08:17:43 PM
Quote from: torres on October 10, 2010, 03:57:20 PM
granemore bt w tones
is that Granemore promoted?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on October 10, 2010, 08:18:18 PM
After reading all the complaining from some Clanns men about Maghery not fielding in a game, and the claims about it, which by the way are way off mark, I have to remind the Clanns men about something. A few years ago Clanns could not field against Maghery for some reason which escapes me now (memory poor). When told at a Co.Board meeting we could claim the points. We said no we would settle for a refix. The Clanns were in need of points that year as well.If you want verification ask your current Sec. I was glad to see Clanns staying up as Davitt park is nearer than Mullaghabawn.The Clanns for some reason think everybody are out to get them. Not so in my opinion.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mrgaa1 on October 10, 2010, 08:20:35 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 10, 2010, 05:30:21 PM
Quote from: border rabbit on October 09, 2010, 06:21:33 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 09, 2010, 02:27:07 PM
Junior Final. Is it true that Peter Rafferty is manager of Tullysarron and he has 2 sons playing for Grange.

Aye hes been managing them for past 2 years. Gonna be strange for a genuine Grange man through and through, although his influence tomorrow could be minmial as tullysarran will hammer them off the pitch! Been talking to few boys who know Junior football and say it could be embarrassing

Tullysarran boys must have been reading this,

Grange beat them by 4 points today in the junior final,

Some win for them boys

and here in lies the issues with championship football in Armagh - Tullysaran will be playing 2nd division football next year and still in the Junior - Grange may not get promoted (looks like they will though) and could be playing intermediate championship from the 4th
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 10, 2010, 08:30:56 PM
Quote from: mrgaa1 on October 10, 2010, 08:17:43 PM
Quote from: torres on October 10, 2010, 03:57:20 PM
granemore bt w tones
is that Granemore promoted?

did keady play Newtown today?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 10, 2010, 08:37:42 PM
Quote from: mrgaa1 on October 10, 2010, 08:17:43 PM
Quote from: torres on October 10, 2010, 03:57:20 PM
granemore bt w tones
is that Granemore promoted?

gmore and harps both a few fixtures left likely to be a playoff though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 10, 2010, 09:15:32 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on October 10, 2010, 08:18:18 PM
After reading all the complaining from some Clanns men about Maghery not fielding in a game, and the claims about it, which by the way are way off mark, I have to remind the Clanns men about something. A few years ago Clanns could not field against Maghery for some reason which escapes me now (memory poor). When told at a Co.Board meeting we could claim the points. We said no we would settle for a refix. The Clanns were in need of points that year as well.If you want verification ask your current Sec. I was glad to see Clanns staying up as Davitt park is nearer than Mullaghabawn.The Clanns for some reason think everybody are out to get them. Not so in my opinion.


Can you answer me this then - why could 3 different mullaghbawn men tell me 6 weeks before the fixture that yous werent turning up?? you f**king idiot..Im glad we stayed up to get at yous hillbilly f**kers next year again!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on October 10, 2010, 09:21:02 PM
Very good final today I thought with the grange utterly dominant until the last ten minutes when they ran out of steam. Tullysaran scored the last 6 points I believe to make the game look closer than it was.

Grange dominated midfield and were able to break from there at will. Despite this Tullysaran made no changes in this area and continued to kick every goal kick straight to the area. It really allowed the Grange to get on top
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: border rabbit on October 10, 2010, 09:28:58 PM


and here in lies the issues with championship football in Armagh - Tullysaran will be playing 2nd division football next year and still in the Junior - Grange may not get promoted (looks like they will though) and could be playing intermediate championship from the 4th
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Went to Junior final today expecting to witness history with Tullysarran being the last team to win a championship. Going by todays fare they are a long way away from winning anything. Theyre just too small and the Grange played through them, severe wake up call for going into Div2 next year, where they will meet bigger teams and more physical teams. Anyway going by the few boys ive been chatting to over past few weeks its a good thing they got beat, as they were apparently just going up to win and head home, and only worried about how much they could beat the Grange by. Well the Grange put that straight in the 1st 5 mins! Tullysarran should learn to do their talking on the field and only be arrogant when theyve won something.

Congrats to the Grange. Wonder how Peter Rafferty feels tonight, well i suppose it cant be too bad at least his own club and his son won!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 10, 2010, 09:55:06 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 10, 2010, 09:15:32 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on October 10, 2010, 08:18:18 PM
After reading all the complaining from some Clanns men about Maghery not fielding in a game, and the claims about it, which by the way are way off mark, I have to remind the Clanns men about something. A few years ago Clanns could not field against Maghery for some reason which escapes me now (memory poor). When told at a Co.Board meeting we could claim the points. We said no we would settle for a refix. The Clanns were in need of points that year as well.If you want verification ask your current Sec. I was glad to see Clanns staying up as Davitt park is nearer than Mullaghabawn.The Clanns for some reason think everybody are out to get them. Not so in my opinion.

Can you answer me this then - why could 3 different mullaghbawn men tell me 6 weeks before the fixture that yous werent turning up?? you f**king idiot..Im glad we stayed up to get at yous hillbilly f**kers next year again!
If it isn't bad enough Mullabawn men saying it, a MAGHERY MAN told me over a week in advance of the fixture! I don't think too many at Clan na Gael thinks there is a conspiracy (tbh we shouldn't be finding ourselves in these positions anyway) but when Cruppen gave points to Sarsfields, Maghery done likewise with M'bawn and Dromintee fielded a zuke team today against M'bawn you sometimes wonder.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: blue on October 10, 2010, 10:16:19 PM
great win 4 keady hurlers 2day!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 10, 2010, 11:00:38 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 10, 2010, 08:37:42 PM
Quote from: mrgaa1 on October 10, 2010, 08:17:43 PM
Quote from: torres on October 10, 2010, 03:57:20 PM
granemore bt w tones
is that Granemore promoted?

gmore and harps both a few fixtures left likely to be a playoff though
granemore have no games left and are 2 pts ahead of the harps who have st michaels away in their last game next week so a play off beckons for the 2 nd year in a row for us  , keady play st michaels in a midweek fixture .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 12:26:07 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 10, 2010, 09:55:06 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 10, 2010, 09:15:32 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on October 10, 2010, 08:18:18 PM
After reading all the complaining from some Clanns men about Maghery not fielding in a game, and the claims about it, which by the way are way off mark, I have to remind the Clanns men about something. A few years ago Clanns could not field against Maghery for some reason which escapes me now (memory poor). When told at a Co.Board meeting we could claim the points. We said no we would settle for a refix. The Clanns were in need of points that year as well.If you want verification ask your current Sec. I was glad to see Clanns staying up as Davitt park is nearer than Mullaghabawn.The Clanns for some reason think everybody are out to get them. Not so in my opinion.

Can you answer me this then - why could 3 different mullaghbawn men tell me 6 weeks before the fixture that yous werent turning up?? you f**king idiot..Im glad we stayed up to get at yous hillbilly f**kers next year again!
If it isn't bad enough Mullabawn men saying it, a MAGHERY MAN told me over a week in advance of the fixture! I don't think too many at Clan na Gael thinks there is a conspiracy (tbh we shouldn't be finding ourselves in these positions anyway) but when Cruppen gave points to Sarsfields, Maghery done likewise with M'bawn and Dromintee fielded a zuke team today against M'bawn you sometimes wonder.

wonder what you like....we fielded a team that was capable of beating m/bawn today and anyone that was at the match cant tell you any different...lost by 3 points and only for two fortunate m/bawn goals things would have been alot different!! after all this talk about poor quality of teams being fielded il be fully expecting the clans championship 15 togging out in dromintee in afew weeks time....












Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 11, 2010, 12:40:32 AM
Just retired you site some incident when the clans haven't turned up but did it directly add to your relegation woes or ensure the safety of other teams? I don't recall the incident you are talking about . You also say that the allegations are way off the mark, in what way are they? Are the mullaghbawn lads liars?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 12:42:35 AM
Quote from: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 12:26:07 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 10, 2010, 09:55:06 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 10, 2010, 09:15:32 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on October 10, 2010, 08:18:18 PM
After reading all the complaining from some Clanns men about Maghery not fielding in a game, and the claims about it, which by the way are way off mark, I have to remind the Clanns men about something. A few years ago Clanns could not field against Maghery for some reason which escapes me now (memory poor). When told at a Co.Board meeting we could claim the points. We said no we would settle for a refix. The Clanns were in need of points that year as well.If you want verification ask your current Sec. I was glad to see Clanns staying up as Davitt park is nearer than Mullaghabawn.The Clanns for some reason think everybody are out to get them. Not so in my opinion.

Can you answer me this then - why could 3 different mullaghbawn men tell me 6 weeks before the fixture that yous werent turning up?? you f**king idiot..Im glad we stayed up to get at yous hillbilly f**kers next year again!
If it isn't bad enough Mullabawn men saying it, a MAGHERY MAN told me over a week in advance of the fixture! I don't think too many at Clan na Gael thinks there is a conspiracy (tbh we shouldn't be finding ourselves in these positions anyway) but when Cruppen gave points to Sarsfields, Maghery done likewise with M'bawn and Dromintee fielded a zuke team today against M'bawn you sometimes wonder.

wonder what you like....we fielded a team that was capable of beating m/bawn today and anyone that was at the match cant tell you any different...lost by 3 points and only for two fortunate m/bawn goals things would have been alot different!! after all this talk about poor quality of teams being fielded il be fully expecting the clans championship 15 togging out in dromintee in afew weeks time....


You got it sir!! Will yous show up at your own pitch?? Were yous not playing DCU today??? DICK!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: margaret on October 11, 2010, 12:55:30 AM
does no one in armagh give a toss about hurling keady in ulster final and barely mentioned on this board
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardchieftain on October 11, 2010, 01:23:22 AM
Big result for Keady in the hurling alright. They were completely written off in an article in last week's Irish News so wasn't expecting them to win. Great to see Armagh hurling in general continuing the upward curve.

Well done to the Davitt minor team today. Missed the game but heard it was a cracker.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 11, 2010, 07:57:03 AM
Quote from: ardchieftain on October 11, 2010, 01:23:22 AM
Well done to the Davitt minor team today. Missed the game but heard it was a cracker.

Unreal game! Best game of football i've seen in a long time! Pity there wasn't more Tullysaren & Grange people in early to see it!
Young Philip Kelly is a super footballer. Can't believe he wasn't a county Minor!
Conor Williamson & Barry Quinn had excellent games also!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 11, 2010, 08:40:45 AM
Centrefield my issue is not concerning teams fielding weaker squads as no one can really control this  only the team at hand. My issue is with teams not turning up at all and getting away without as much as a fine . The issue is even more crucial when you have certain teams promising others points, the only motivation behind such a decision is a hatred for one team over the other
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 09:45:02 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 12:42:35 AM
Quote from: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 12:26:07 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 10, 2010, 09:55:06 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 10, 2010, 09:15:32 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on October 10, 2010, 08:18:18 PM
After reading all the complaining from some Clanns men about Maghery not fielding in a game, and the claims about it, which by the way are way off mark, I have to remind the Clanns men about something. A few years ago Clanns could not field against Maghery for some reason which escapes me now (memory poor). When told at a Co.Board meeting we could claim the points. We said no we would settle for a refix. The Clanns were in need of points that year as well.If you want verification ask your current Sec. I was glad to see Clanns staying up as Davitt park is nearer than Mullaghabawn.The Clanns for some reason think everybody are out to get them. Not so in my opinion.

Can you answer me this then - why could 3 different mullaghbawn men tell me 6 weeks before the fixture that yous werent turning up?? you f**king idiot..Im glad we stayed up to get at yous hillbilly f**kers next year again!
If it isn't bad enough Mullabawn men saying it, a MAGHERY MAN told me over a week in advance of the fixture! I don't think too many at Clan na Gael thinks there is a conspiracy (tbh we shouldn't be finding ourselves in these positions anyway) but when Cruppen gave points to Sarsfields, Maghery done likewise with M'bawn and Dromintee fielded a zuke team today against M'bawn you sometimes wonder.

wonder what you like....we fielded a team that was capable of beating m/bawn today and anyone that was at the match cant tell you any different...lost by 3 points and only for two fortunate m/bawn goals things would have been alot different!! after all this talk about poor quality of teams being fielded il be fully expecting the clans championship 15 togging out in dromintee in afew weeks time....


You got it sir!! Will yous show up at your own pitch?? Were yous not playing DCU today??? DICK!
jesus las you would wanna get your facts right before you come on here talking shite!! i can 100% assure you our senior team did not play DCU once through out the year you tube!!! suppose us playing DCU today is all part of the conspiracy theory...well guess what your conspiracy theory got blown too shreds...DICK
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 11, 2010, 10:58:09 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 11, 2010, 07:57:03 AM
Quote from: ardchieftain on October 11, 2010, 01:23:22 AM
Well done to the Davitt minor team today. Missed the game but heard it was a cracker.

Unreal game! Best game of football i've seen in a long time! Pity there wasn't more Tullysaren & Grange people in early to see it!
Young Philip Kelly is a super footballer. Can't believe he wasn't a county Minor!
Conor Williamson & Barry Quinn had excellent games also!
good enough game ok but both teams had a lot of weak links which added to the excitement. however young kelly is a good player but how would he fair against minor teams in division 1. madden will be kicking themselves after being about 10 up at one stage. please goats bar some mothers from attending which seemed like their first gaa match as all i could hear in my ear was our wee jimmy and the da was pissed off being asked the rules and granny at home was getting a running commentary on the match and what way the the dinner was cooking.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 11, 2010, 12:53:08 PM
Quote from: margaret on October 11, 2010, 12:55:30 AM
does no one in armagh give a toss about hurling keady in ulster final and barely mentioned on this board
i dont but each to their own  ;) why dont you try the club hurling in armagh section .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 11, 2010, 02:15:51 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 11, 2010, 10:58:09 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 11, 2010, 07:57:03 AM
Quote from: ardchieftain on October 11, 2010, 01:23:22 AM
Well done to the Davitt minor team today. Missed the game but heard it was a cracker.

Unreal game! Best game of football i've seen in a long time! Pity there wasn't more Tullysaren & Grange people in early to see it!
Young Philip Kelly is a super footballer. Can't believe he wasn't a county Minor!
Conor Williamson & Barry Quinn had excellent games also!
good enough game ok but both teams had a lot of weak links which added to the excitement. however young kelly is a good player but how would he fair against minor teams in division 1. madden will be kicking themselves after being about 10 up at one stage. please goats bar some mothers from attending which seemed like their first gaa match as all i could hear in my ear was our wee jimmy and the da was pissed off being asked the rules and granny at home was getting a running commentary on the match and what way the the dinner was cooking.

Ha ha very good! - I don't have those privileges! Good to see people getting out of the house! Seasoned spectators lose the run of themselves at matches too.

There was a Grange man behind me at the game. Got in early - seemed very sensible during the minor game - completely lost the run of himself during the seniors. Cursed the referee for every decision! Incidentally I thought Hearty had a decent game, even if he was 40 yards behind most of the play.

One point, the Grange spectator, shouted "Come on Tullysaren!" by accident! he he
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 02:28:52 PM
Quote from: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 09:45:02 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 12:42:35 AM
Quote from: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 12:26:07 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 10, 2010, 09:55:06 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 10, 2010, 09:15:32 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on October 10, 2010, 08:18:18 PM
After reading all the complaining from some Clanns men about Maghery not fielding in a game, and the claims about it, which by the way are way off mark, I have to remind the Clanns men about something. A few years ago Clanns could not field against Maghery for some reason which escapes me now (memory poor). When told at a Co.Board meeting we could claim the points. We said no we would settle for a refix. The Clanns were in need of points that year as well.If you want verification ask your current Sec. I was glad to see Clanns staying up as Davitt park is nearer than Mullaghabawn.The Clanns for some reason think everybody are out to get them. Not so in my opinion.

Can you answer me this then - why could 3 different mullaghbawn men tell me 6 weeks before the fixture that yous werent turning up?? you f**king idiot..Im glad we stayed up to get at yous hillbilly f**kers next year again!
If it isn't bad enough Mullabawn men saying it, a MAGHERY MAN told me over a week in advance of the fixture! I don't think too many at Clan na Gael thinks there is a conspiracy (tbh we shouldn't be finding ourselves in these positions anyway) but when Cruppen gave points to Sarsfields, Maghery done likewise with M'bawn and Dromintee fielded a zuke team today against M'bawn you sometimes wonder.

wonder what you like....we fielded a team that was capable of beating m/bawn today and anyone that was at the match cant tell you any different...lost by 3 points and only for two fortunate m/bawn goals things would have been alot different!! after all this talk about poor quality of teams being fielded il be fully expecting the clans championship 15 togging out in dromintee in afew weeks time....


You got it sir!! Will yous show up at your own pitch?? Were yous not playing DCU today??? DICK!
jesus las you would wanna get your facts right before you come on here talking shite!! i can 100% assure you our senior team did not play DCU once through out the year you tube!!! suppose us playing DCU today is all part of the conspiracy theory...well guess what your conspiracy theory got blown too shreds...DICK


Sorry my mistake lad I apologise - who was it then UCD or St. Vincents or maybe Queens considering Cathal is their manager and they also played St.Galls in Lurgan on Wed night  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 04:45:47 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 02:28:52 PM
Quote from: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 09:45:02 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 12:42:35 AM
Quote from: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 12:26:07 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 10, 2010, 09:55:06 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 10, 2010, 09:15:32 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on October 10, 2010, 08:18:18 PM
After reading all the complaining from some Clanns men about Maghery not fielding in a game, and the claims about it, which by the way are way off mark, I have to remind the Clanns men about something. A few years ago Clanns could not field against Maghery for some reason which escapes me now (memory poor). When told at a Co.Board meeting we could claim the points. We said no we would settle for a refix. The Clanns were in need of points that year as well.If you want verification ask your current Sec. I was glad to see Clanns staying up as Davitt park is nearer than Mullaghabawn.The Clanns for some reason think everybody are out to get them. Not so in my opinion.

Can you answer me this then - why could 3 different mullaghbawn men tell me 6 weeks before the fixture that yous werent turning up?? you f**king idiot..Im glad we stayed up to get at yous hillbilly f**kers next year again!
If it isn't bad enough Mullabawn men saying it, a MAGHERY MAN told me over a week in advance of the fixture! I don't think too many at Clan na Gael thinks there is a conspiracy (tbh we shouldn't be finding ourselves in these positions anyway) but when Cruppen gave points to Sarsfields, Maghery done likewise with M'bawn and Dromintee fielded a zuke team today against M'bawn you sometimes wonder.

wonder what you like....we fielded a team that was capable of beating m/bawn today and anyone that was at the match cant tell you any different...lost by 3 points and only for two fortunate m/bawn goals things would have been alot different!! after all this talk about poor quality of teams being fielded il be fully expecting the clans championship 15 togging out in dromintee in afew weeks time....


You got it sir!! Will yous show up at your own pitch?? Were yous not playing DCU today??? DICK!
jesus las you would wanna get your facts right before you come on here talking shite!! i can 100% assure you our senior team did not play DCU once through out the year you tube!!! suppose us playing DCU today is all part of the conspiracy theory...well guess what your conspiracy theory got blown too shreds...DICK


Sorry my mistake lad I apologise - who was it then UCD or St. Vincents or maybe Queens considering Cathal is their manager and they also played St.Galls in Lurgan on Wed night  ;D
i think it was in fact the kerry globe trotters and we played them at cricket just for the sake of it casue we got out of bed that morning and felt it was the right thing to do....i can assure you we played mullaghbawn sunday and mullaghbawn alone.
st galls played queens did they?? no relivence to anything atall regarding ourselves but maybe if yous lads stopped checking on what other clubs are up to and concrentrate on clans  this conspiracy bull shit would come to an end!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 11, 2010, 05:22:16 PM
Centrefield you are clearly not reading my posts, i haven't mentioned anything about ucd, dcu, ucd, or any other paramilatary organisations  ;) so could you please stop writing lads as if there are more than one person making this argument. If you read my posts you will see what i am saying. This is me concentrating on the clans because it directly effects our club.  My posts are also based on facts and as they say the facts don't lie.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 05:42:25 PM
Was it a strong Dromintee side that lined out against Mullaghbawn??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on October 11, 2010, 05:46:19 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 05:42:25 PM
Was it a strong Dromintee side that lined out against Mullaghbawn??

Were they under any obligation to put out a strong side? Least they fielded, could easily have just not shown up.

f**k sake, get over it. Relegation has been avoided, you should be happy and concentrating on staying up next year, not looking back on this season.

The Clans have a good young side, with a better management structure in place they could go well next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 07:42:54 PM
Who the f**k was talking to you?? Yous have enough problems of your own san - how did your lads do on Sunday? ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 07:46:19 PM
The first line in your last post says it all about how Armagh football is - we should be thankful thank they showed up and they were under no obligation to play a strong team.

Of course they are under obligation you tit - For the integrety of this league....which has taken a real nose dive in the past 6 weeks. 

Yes relegation was avoided - by our lads on the pitch...no thanks to the few teams who did their bit to see otherwise.

What goes around comes around though.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 07:51:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 11, 2010, 05:22:16 PM
Centrefield you are clearly not reading my posts, i haven't mentioned anything about ucd, dcu, ucd, or any other paramilatary organisations  ;) so could you please stop writing lads as if there are more than one person making this argument. If you read my posts you will see what i am saying. This is me concentrating on the clans because it directly effects our club.  My posts are also based on facts and as they say the facts don't lie.

my apoligies winsam didnt mean to come across as though your whole parish is claiming we conspired too try to get you relagated...far from it...i was aiming my comments at illdecide due to his spreading of rumors.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 07:56:05 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 05:42:25 PM
Was it a strong Dromintee side that lined out against Mullaghbawn??

it wasnt our strongest side for obvious reasons...suspensions and injuries...which as it tuned out was a good call as there were 3 sendings off yday! 2 for them 1 for ourselves. but by no means did we sit down thursday and say this is a good time to play a weakened team and try get clans relegated...which essentially is what you are implying!! for the record we lost by 3 points yday and were competitive throughout!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on October 11, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 07:42:54 PM
Who the f**k was talking to you?? Yous have enough problems of your own san - how did your lads do on Sunday? ;D ;D

I thought this was a DISCUSSION board.

Anyway, I will let you continue making a dick out of yourself and embarassing your club.

As for Clann Eireann, I could not give one flying f**k about them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on October 11, 2010, 08:52:22 PM
Winsamsoon. The year I CITED was about 10 years ago, we were not in relegation trouble Clanns were the ones in trouble. Thanks for corresponding in a civil manner,not like some people. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 11, 2010, 09:31:27 PM
Right I think we should just leave it. The important thing is that youse all have to come to play us in Lurgan again in 2011, whether youse admit it or not I know youse would prefer not to, so on that front haha to all youse!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 10:23:58 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on October 11, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 07:42:54 PM
Who the f**k was talking to you?? Yous have enough problems of your own san - how did your lads do on Sunday? ;D ;D

I thought this was a DISCUSSION board.

Anyway, I will let you continue making a dick out of yourself and embarassing your club.

As for Clann Eireann, I could not give one flying f**k about them.


It is a discussion board - I do apologise. And as it is your right to discuss things its mine to make a dick out of myself - AND MY CLUB.  ???

Why did you list CE as your club then say you dont give a f**k about them?? Was someone dropped this year???  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 10:46:17 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 11, 2010, 09:31:27 PM
Right I think we should just leave it. The important thing is that youse all have to come to play us in Lurgan again in 2011, whether youse admit it or not I know youse would prefer not to, so on that front haha to all youse!

another top notce quote there showing the true childish nature of clowns on here ''haha to al youse'' sounds like something an 8 year old would say to win an arguement!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 11, 2010, 11:25:47 PM
Quote from: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 10:46:17 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 11, 2010, 09:31:27 PM
Right I think we should just leave it. The important thing is that youse all have to come to play us in Lurgan again in 2011, whether youse admit it or not I know youse would prefer not to, so on that front haha to all youse!

another top notce quote there showing the true childish nature of clowns on here ''haha to al youse'' sounds like something an 8 year old would say to win an arguement!!
That was my attempt at humour! And good luck for the final!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 11, 2010, 11:39:50 PM
Quote from: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 07:51:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 11, 2010, 05:22:16 PM
Centrefield you are clearly not reading my posts, i haven't mentioned anything about ucd, dcu, ucd, or any other paramilatary organisations  ;) so could you please stop writing lads as if there are more than one person making this argument. If you read my posts you will see what i am saying. This is me concentrating on the clans because it directly effects our club.  My posts are also based on facts and as they say the facts don't lie.

my apoligies winsam didnt mean to come across as though your whole parish is claiming we conspired too try to get you relagated...far from it...i was aiming my comments at illdecide due to his spreading of rumors.

And how exactly am i involved in this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on October 12, 2010, 12:18:11 AM
in fairness dromintee have got themselves clear of relegation and are preparing for a championship final so at this stage of the year they can field whatever team they feel is right in the build up to their biggest game of the year!! we got the same grief last year when we were beat by culloville which kept them up and would have sent killeavy down only for league restructuring
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 12, 2010, 11:06:44 AM
Quote from: pearseog on October 12, 2010, 12:18:11 AM
in fairness dromintee have got themselves clear of relegation and are preparing for a championship final so at this stage of the year they can field whatever team they feel is right in the build up to their biggest game of the year!! we got the same grief last year when we were beat by culloville which kept them up and would have sent killeavy down only for league restructuring
a team shouldnt have to wait on the last games of the season to be safe, plenty of games before hand to win. I do however agree that something drastic has to done to ensure teams fullfill fixtures and i still think a form of play-off for winners and relegation might be the best. it would however mean the 1st 3 divisions reverting back to 10 teams as with 12 the league wouldnt finish with play-offs. top 4 to play-off for promotion/winners, bottom 4 for relegation that would soon encourage completion of fixtures. It was shot down after one season the last time as some clubs became selfish as they got playing teams without their county players and took advantage rather than have to face them later in the year with a full team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on October 12, 2010, 12:15:00 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 11, 2010, 11:39:50 PM
Quote from: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 07:51:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 11, 2010, 05:22:16 PM
Centrefield you are clearly not reading my posts, i haven't mentioned anything about ucd, dcu, ucd, or any other paramilatary organisations  ;) so could you please stop writing lads as if there are more than one person making this argument. If you read my posts you will see what i am saying. This is me concentrating on the clans because it directly effects our club.  My posts are also based on facts and as they say the facts don't lie.

my apoligies winsam didnt mean to come across as though your whole parish is claiming we conspired too try to get you relagated...far from it...i was aiming my comments at illdecide due to his spreading of rumors.

And how exactly am i involved in this?

my bad illdecide and my apologies...ivdecided is where my grip is at
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 12, 2010, 12:19:02 PM
I have no problem with the two up two down the way it is, the problem only arises at the end of the season when teams are safe or are involved with a championship and the league is only a distraction. I know you said you should not be in that position but some team will always be in that position wether it be Clan na Gael (this year) or some other team next year. i think we all agree that if teams want to field weakend teams for one reason or another then thats up to them but the Co Board should def penalise teams for not fielding a side no matter the circumstances (Carrickcruppen x 2 and Maghery x1).

Things worked out just like last year in the end with the two teams relegated that should have been relegated last year so thats seems fair enough. I reckon Ballymacnab and either Harps or Granemore will hold their own next year in the division and it promises to be an interesting year. Div 2 is interesting too and there are still some quality teams perched there waiting for their we piece of luck and a run to promotion. This year hasn't finished yet and I'm already looking forward to next season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on October 12, 2010, 01:34:25 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on October 11, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 07:42:54 PM
Who the f**k was talking to you?? Yous have enough problems of your own san - how did your lads do on Sunday? ;D ;D

I thought this was a DISCUSSION board.

Anyway, I will let you continue making a dick out of yourself and embarassing your club.

As for Clann Eireann, I could not give one flying f**k about them.

yet you have your club down as clann eireann? Strange
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 12, 2010, 02:33:47 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 12, 2010, 01:34:25 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on October 11, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 07:42:54 PM
Who the f**k was talking to you?? Yous have enough problems of your own san - how did your lads do on Sunday? ;D ;D

I thought this was a DISCUSSION board.

Anyway, I will let you continue making a dick out of yourself and embarassing your club.

As for Clann Eireann, I could not give one flying f**k about them.

yet you have your club down as clann eireann? Strange

He'a an Eire Og man actually and er.... i'll not tell the rest of it ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 12, 2010, 02:56:47 PM
Any predictions for sundays final.?

Personally i think that we will have to improve greatly to pull it off.
Dromintee are a step up in quality from St Pats and our semi final replay performance would not be good enough to beat them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 12, 2010, 03:07:06 PM
violins cf as usual. have to say ur team is not the finished article and i have to say ogs are kicking themselves from a personal point of view. dromintee are certainly in last chance saloon for alot of their older players which could leave sundays game very tight. but i think home advantage and dromintees failure to cross the line previous could tip it in cross favour. it will be interesting to see who the neutrals cheer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 12, 2010, 04:05:00 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 12, 2010, 02:56:47 PM
Any predictions for sundays final.?

Personally i think that we will have to improve greatly to pull it off.
Dromintee are a step up in quality from St Pats and our semi final replay performance would not be good enough to beat them.

I'll not bite  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 12, 2010, 04:24:18 PM
Quote from: centrefield on October 12, 2010, 12:15:00 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 11, 2010, 11:39:50 PM
Quote from: centrefield on October 11, 2010, 07:51:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 11, 2010, 05:22:16 PM
Centrefield you are clearly not reading my posts, i haven't mentioned anything about ucd, dcu, ucd, or any other paramilatary organisations  ;) so could you please stop writing lads as if there are more than one person making this argument. If you read my posts you will see what i am saying. This is me concentrating on the clans because it directly effects our club.  My posts are also based on facts and as they say the facts don't lie.

my apoligies winsam didnt mean to come across as though your whole parish is claiming we conspired too try to get you relagated...far from it...i was aiming my comments at illdecide due to his spreading of rumors.

And how exactly am i involved in this?

my bad illdecide and my apologies...ivdecided is where my grip is at


So you cant DECIDE which decider you want to argue with saan....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on October 12, 2010, 04:53:08 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 12, 2010, 02:33:47 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 12, 2010, 01:34:25 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on October 11, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 07:42:54 PM
Who the f**k was talking to you?? Yous have enough problems of your own san - how did your lads do on Sunday? ;D ;D

I thought this was a DISCUSSION board.

Anyway, I will let you continue making a dick out of yourself and embarassing your club.

As for Clann Eireann, I could not give one flying f**k about them.

yet you have your club down as clann eireann? Strange

He'a an Eire Og man actually and er.... i'll not tell the rest of it ;)

really? A transfer then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 12, 2010, 06:17:39 PM
This must be the best chance Dromintee have had to beat Cross.  With the McEntees and Donaldson gone, along with the suspension of Clarke they must be quietly confident. Cross on the other hand will be hurting from last year and will be very anxious to get "their" trophy back.  It will definitely add some fuel to their fire that people have been saying they're finished, not the team they used to be etc.

It all makes for an interesting final. Dromintee have the players to cause an upset and although people have been questioning their mental ability I think they'll just shade it.

Dromintee by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 12, 2010, 10:05:32 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 12, 2010, 02:56:47 PM
Any predictions for sundays final.?

Personally i think that we will have to improve greatly to pull it off.
Dromintee are a step up in quality from St Pats and our semi final replay performance would not be good enough to beat them.
r you avin a laugh?? we would boot dromintee,and cross willl boot them by at least 5 points on sunday,,them 2 games against st pats will stand to cross and with oisin back and home advantage takin in to account,thats all worth an extra 5 points in the favour of cross.. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: alba2 on October 12, 2010, 10:16:59 PM
Who is replacing Mc Nulty on the armagh scene next year??? Any thoughts on who should and any thoughts on the panel yet? Who should be in and who should call time on their careers????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 12, 2010, 10:30:12 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 12, 2010, 04:05:00 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 12, 2010, 02:56:47 PM
Any predictions for sundays final.?

Personally i think that we will have to improve greatly to pull it off.
Dromintee are a step up in quality from St Pats and our semi final replay performance would not be good enough to beat them.

I'll not bite  :)

Someone did. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 12, 2010, 11:15:15 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 12, 2010, 10:30:12 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 12, 2010, 04:05:00 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 12, 2010, 02:56:47 PM
Any predictions for sundays final.?

Personally i think that we will have to improve greatly to pull it off.
Dromintee are a step up in quality from St Pats and our semi final replay performance would not be good enough to beat them.

I'll not bite  :)

Someone did. ;D

Was it meant as a dig?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 12, 2010, 11:40:43 PM
I fancy Dromintee to finally get their maiden championship! If they dont win it on Sunday they will never win one....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 13, 2010, 10:08:03 AM
treatment clans are getting is a joke.  just because they are one of the aristrocats of armagh football teams both in north and south armagh seem to take pleasure in trying to get them put down to the 2nd tier in rma.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 13, 2010, 10:18:15 AM
At last - an honest neutral! Fair play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 13, 2010, 10:28:14 AM
in the clans defence there wud def be more dirty,niggly, hateful teams in div 1 than themselves.  dont know why people wanna see them go down def easier 4 points available in the league 4 teams.  maghery were sitting pretty 2nd in table 4 the majority of season, clans wipped the floor with them the game i was at.  if clans got the right man a the helm next year could see them top 4 in league and get a good championship run.. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 13, 2010, 11:05:54 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 13, 2010, 10:08:03 AM
treatment clans are getting is a joke.  just because they are one of the aristrocats of armagh football teams both in north and south armagh seem to take pleasure in trying to get them put down to the 2nd tier in rma.
in fairness now weve had good battles with clans over the years and personally i would be dissapointed to see them go down..1 memory was soupy campbell scoring a hatrick and taking of his jersey.lol ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 13, 2010, 11:17:19 AM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 13, 2010, 11:05:54 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 13, 2010, 10:08:03 AM
treatment clans are getting is a joke.  just because they are one of the aristrocats of armagh football teams both in north and south armagh seem to take pleasure in trying to get them put down to the 2nd tier in rma.
in fairness now weve had good battles with clans over the years and personally i would be dissapointed to see them go down..1 memory was soupy campbell scoring a hatrick and taking of his jersey.lol ;D

hope he got the size 5 home lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 13, 2010, 11:36:21 AM
Well they're not going down this year and i've seen quite a few of their games this year and i believe the will turn this around and be up near the top soon enough. I don't believe the current management team know how to play this new team and they certainly didn't look the sharpest this year, with the right men in charge and a few of the young lads coming through the Clans will be back challenging for honours.

It's not just the clans i go to watch, i attend a match every week around the Lurgan area and have seen a good bit of the Tones and Clann Eireann too with the odd Sarsfields game and enjoy it but i have to say on ability the Clans def seem to have the more skillful players on Board but their management team don't seem to know how to get it out of them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 13, 2010, 11:49:48 AM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 13, 2010, 11:36:21 AM
Well they're not going down this year and i've seen quite a few of their games this year and i believe the will turn this around and be up near the top soon enough. I don't believe the current management team know how to play this new team and they certainly didn't look the sharpest this year, with the right men in charge and a few of the young lads coming through the Clans will be back challenging for honours.

It's not just the clans i go to watch, i attend a match every week around the Lurgan area and have seen a good bit of the Tones and Clann Eireann too with the odd Sarsfields game and enjoy it but i have to say on ability the Clans def seem to have the more skillful players on Board but their management team don't seem to know how to get it out of them

would agree clans far superior than any team round lurgan ability wise.  we did quite well this year with a good mananager, clans to be brutally honest have had a complete clown managining them this year and imo this has helped them have a very average season, by their standards.  no discipline,no authority.  10 men at training 2 days b4 a vital game(v cullaville) to me shows the manager a walkover.  for the sake of north armagh i hope there a change in management next year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on October 13, 2010, 12:28:59 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 13, 2010, 10:08:03 AM
treatment clans are getting is a joke.  just because they are one of the aristrocats of armagh football teams both in north and south armagh seem to take pleasure in trying to get them put down to the 2nd tier in rma.

another conspiracy theorist...maybe you should all get together and go ufo spotting some night....do you really think if clans had won the league and for talks sake say peasre og's were in the position clans find themselves in..do you think that the likes of cruppen who didnt field would field??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 13, 2010, 12:34:08 PM
Quote from: centrefield on October 13, 2010, 12:28:59 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 13, 2010, 10:08:03 AM
treatment clans are getting is a joke.  just because they are one of the aristrocats of armagh football teams both in north and south armagh seem to take pleasure in trying to get them put down to the 2nd tier in rma.

another conspiracy theorist...maybe you should all get together and go ufo spotting some night....do you really think if clans had won the league and for talks sake say peasre og's were in the position clans find themselves in..do you think that the likes of cruppen who didnt field would field??

according to clans posters they have previously, can only take them on their word. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 13, 2010, 01:58:07 PM
Not going to comment on this issue other than the players have to shoulder the blame as well. Bear in mind the manager took on the job when few others wanted it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 13, 2010, 02:52:14 PM
I have to say I was amazed by how poor Clans were this year. Very uncharacteristic of them. We have a horrendous record up in Lurgan yet we gave them an absolute hiding away from home (albeit at Clann Eireann rather than Davitt Park).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 13, 2010, 03:03:39 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 13, 2010, 02:52:14 PM
I have to say I was amazed by how poor Clans were this year. Very uncharacteristic of them. We have a horrendous record up in Lurgan yet we gave them an absolute hiding away from home (albeit at Clann Eireann rather than Davitt Park).

Yeah man i said the same, a couple of players told me the way they're playing reflected the management. (roll over and take it up the ass) I seen a row in clann Eireann park when they played Maghery and when a fight broke out between two players the Clans manager ran on and grabbed his own player whilst the Maghery man couldn't believe his luck and punched on whilst the clans manager held his own player :D :D :D The manager then went on to tell his player he didn't want any fighting :D :D :D so what about protecting yourself :D. Dunno if this is true maybe some of the Clans men can clarify this but i heard there were 2-3 players (guaranteed 1st team players) who after seeing how bad the management were in their 1st year decided to take a year out until they had gone and left their post.

Thats not great attitudes and you'd have to ask about their commitment but it also says a lot about the management
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 13, 2010, 05:26:25 PM
Just as we were talking about management there. If a guy manages a team and he's brutal (see above) and none of the players want to play for him and the guy's totally lost the dressing room, if there is no one else looking the job what should the club do. Fitzroyalty pointed out that no one else wanted the job so does that mean the current manager should have it for as long as he wishes (should he take them to Div 4).

I know that was directed at Clans (sort of) but I've seen it around the town with clubs and management (St Paul's, W Tones, St Peters and Eire Og i hear are the next culprits)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 13, 2010, 07:09:04 PM
Fitz is wrong there are several people keen to manage the Clans...and there always has been.

Management aside, it was a pitiful year by Clans standards and simply wont do in future. We were a shambles of a team on and off the field and TBH got what we deserved in each competition we entered - Ulster league, Pat McMahon, Armagh league and championship.

There are several first team players who took a year out but you would have to ask them their reasons. There is also a good crop of atlented players from a strong U21 and championship winning B side (Young B side). All clubs go through periods of transition and I hope this year was the darkest hour before the dawn for this team.

We are a young team but have been together now for 2 years so thats no longer a factor in my mind - the honeymoon period is over. I honestly believe you will see a completely different Clans team next year and over the next few years. It is an absolute godsend that we can now start to develop as a division 1 side without having to get out of division 2 first.

Clan na GAEL abu!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 13, 2010, 11:45:51 PM
imo, managers mite not get the backing from the dressing room but its an easy target to point the blame at..i would say no pride in the jersey..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: UGAAWA on October 13, 2010, 11:53:45 PM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on October 14, 2010, 12:21:23 AM
Lolafrola are you going to put yourself in the ring for the Clans job next year? You did well this year with the B job anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on October 14, 2010, 12:23:27 AM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 13, 2010, 11:36:21 AM
Well they're not going down this year and i've seen quite a few of their games this year and i believe the will turn this around and be up near the top soon enough. I don't believe the current management team know how to play this new team and they certainly didn't look the sharpest this year, with the right men in charge and a few of the young lads coming through the Clans will be back challenging for honours.

It's not just the clans i go to watch, i attend a match every week around the Lurgan area and have seen a good bit of the Tones and Clann Eireann too with the odd Sarsfields game and enjoy it but i have to say on ability the Clans def seem to have the more skillful players on Board but their management team don't seem to know how to get it out of them

When are you going to go back posting as illdecide?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 14, 2010, 12:33:48 AM
Never did understand why people try and post under two diff identities . U will always get snared
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 14, 2010, 08:09:30 AM
Did Keady play Tir na nÓg last night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 14, 2010, 09:38:33 AM
Quote from: Wee Shea on October 14, 2010, 12:21:23 AM
Lolafrola are you going to put yourself in the ring for the Clans job next year? You did well this year with the B job anyway.

Yes, most def. and thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 14, 2010, 09:39:34 AM
Quote from: Wee Shea on October 14, 2010, 12:23:27 AM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 13, 2010, 11:36:21 AM
Well they're not going down this year and i've seen quite a few of their games this year and i believe the will turn this around and be up near the top soon enough. I don't believe the current management team know how to play this new team and they certainly didn't look the sharpest this year, with the right men in charge and a few of the young lads coming through the Clans will be back challenging for honours.

It's not just the clans i go to watch, i attend a match every week around the Lurgan area and have seen a good bit of the Tones and Clann Eireann too with the odd Sarsfields game and enjoy it but i have to say on ability the Clans def seem to have the more skillful players on Board but their management team don't seem to know how to get it out of them

When are you going to go back posting as illdecide?

What are you smoking BTW ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 14, 2010, 09:40:42 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 14, 2010, 12:33:48 AM
Never did understand why people try and post under two diff identities . U will always get snared

R u smoking the same stuff ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 14, 2010, 09:44:13 AM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 12, 2010, 02:33:47 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 12, 2010, 01:34:25 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on October 11, 2010, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 11, 2010, 07:42:54 PM
Who the f**k was talking to you?? Yous have enough problems of your own san - how did your lads do on Sunday? ;D ;D

I thought this was a DISCUSSION board.

Anyway, I will let you continue making a dick out of yourself and embarassing your club.

As for Clann Eireann, I could not give one flying f**k about them.

yet you have your club down as clann eireann? Strange

He'a an Eire Og man actually and er.... i'll not tell the rest of it ;)

Def the Wolfe Tones then as we all know your not Clann Eireann. Are you charlie Stubbs in disguise ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on October 14, 2010, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 14, 2010, 09:40:42 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 14, 2010, 12:33:48 AM
Never did understand why people try and post under two diff identities . U will always get snared

R u smoking the same stuff ???

Ok I will play along with this charade, so what club are you from? You have a very extensive knowledge of the Clans but you have went to lengths to say you aren't a Clans man?

It is funny that during your prominence illdecide has taken a back seat?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 14, 2010, 10:21:44 AM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 14, 2010, 09:40:42 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 14, 2010, 12:33:48 AM
Never did understand why people try and post under two diff identities . U will always get snared

R u smoking the same stuff ???

Come on saan admit it that your face has two identities lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 14, 2010, 10:25:18 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 14, 2010, 08:09:30 AM
Did Keady play Tir na nÓg last night?

Think they won by 6 points! - It's starting to look more beneficial to not finish games till late in the season, when the opposition have nothing to play for!!

Keady will get their 2 points from Wolf Tones this Sunday to keep them safe - meaning they'll not need anything from their Newtown game - so they'll take them points.

Madden v Ballyhegan game has just got bigger!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 14, 2010, 11:38:22 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 14, 2010, 10:25:18 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 14, 2010, 08:09:30 AM
Did Keady play Tir na nÓg last night?

Think they won by 6 points! - It's starting to look more beneficial to not finish games till late in the season, when the opposition have nothing to play for!!

Keady will get their 2 points from Wolf Tones this Sunday to keep them safe - meaning they'll not need anything from their Newtown game - so they'll take them points.
just shows you who has influence getting the pitch in callenbridge to play under lights especially when tir na og are short their minors with sundays county minor final. it certainly isnt fair on madden in particular who have been waiting 6 weeks to finish their fixtures and are suddenly due to teams that are safe not fielding strong teams giving handy points to the botttom teams finishing up in a relegation battle.
Madden v Ballyhegan game has just got bigger!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 14, 2010, 12:10:36 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on October 14, 2010, 10:21:30 AM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 14, 2010, 09:40:42 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 14, 2010, 12:33:48 AM
Never did understand why people try and post under two diff identities . U will always get snared

R u smoking the same stuff ???

Ok I will play along with this charade, so what club are you from? You have a very extensive knowledge of the Clans but you have went to lengths to say you aren't a Clans man?

It is funny that during your prominence illdecide has taken a back seat?

I'm not getting into a row with someone here who is clearly not who they say but FYI i played for Clann Eireann up to U16 level and then quit (and if you want to know why i quit then ask me on PM) I know the clans fairly well as i went to school with a few of the current lads and I've watched them about 10 times this year alone.

As for illdecide, you say funny. funny as in lol or coincidence :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 14, 2010, 12:21:33 PM
lola you seem to have a lot to say about football for one who hasnt even played senior football. its amazing what knowledge and opions u get from being on the terraces. come on you really are related to illdecide who in the same position. lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 14, 2010, 02:24:09 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 14, 2010, 10:25:18 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 14, 2010, 08:09:30 AM
Did Keady play Tir na nÓg last night?

Think they won by 6 points! - It's starting to look more beneficial to not finish games till late in the season, when the opposition have nothing to play for!!

Keady will get their 2 points from Wolf Tones this Sunday to keep them safe - meaning they'll not need anything from their Newtown game - so they'll take them points.

Madden v Ballyhegan game has just got bigger!

not our problem that you are in this position.  we beat keady pretty comprehensively on our first meeting, dont think we will just lie down this sun after last weeks pityful display
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 14, 2010, 04:07:18 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 14, 2010, 12:21:33 PM
lola you seem to have a lot to say about football for one who hasnt even played senior football. its amazing what knowledge and opions u get from being on the terraces. come on you really are related to illdecide who in the same position. lol

This illdecide fella must be a legend :D

On a serious note though that comment gets up my nose. Because i've never played senior football then i'm not entitled to an opinion, it's the same too when people say you can't become a good manager if you haven't played at the top level ::).

And i bet a good few here on the board didn't play senior football so i can take it their opinion means f**k all too
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on October 14, 2010, 06:21:22 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 14, 2010, 04:07:18 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 14, 2010, 12:21:33 PM
lola you seem to have a lot to say about football for one who hasnt even played senior football. its amazing what knowledge and opions u get from being on the terraces. come on you really are related to illdecide who in the same position. lol

This illdecide fella must be a legend :D

On a serious note though that comment gets up my nose. Because i've never played senior football then i'm not entitled to an opinion, it's the same too when people say you can't become a good manager if you haven't played at the top level ::).

And i bet a good few here on the board didn't play senior football so i can take it their opinion means f**k all too

Not really, as far as I cold gather he was a mouth and Pints regularly made a wee boy out of him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: blue on October 14, 2010, 10:05:27 PM
Id say dats keady safe now,2b honest der 2good 4 div 3 league but in sayin dat i think jus mid table team in div 2,madden v ballyhagan b good game now losing team down,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 14, 2010, 11:43:35 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 14, 2010, 04:07:18 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 14, 2010, 12:21:33 PM
lola you seem to have a lot to say about football for one who hasnt even played senior football. its amazing what knowledge and opions u get from being on the terraces. come on you really are related to illdecide who in the same position. lol

This illdecide fella must be a legend :D

On a serious note though that comment gets up my nose. Because i've never played senior football then i'm not entitled to an opinion, it's the same too when people say you can't become a good manager if you haven't played at the top level ::).

And i bet a good few here on the board didn't play senior football so i can take it their opinion means f**k all too


I know lots of lads who didnt play senior football who have a fantastic knowledge of the game!

What does annoy me though is lads who never had the balls or commitment to put their shoulder to the wheel but then stand on the sidelines and criticise those who do!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 15, 2010, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: blue on October 14, 2010, 10:05:27 PM
Id say dats keady safe now,2b honest der 2good 4 div 3 league but in sayin dat i think jus mid table team in div 2,madden v ballyhagan b good game now losing team down,

doubt they are a mid table team they have been in the relegation zone practically the whole year and now seem to be getting points when teams are struggling to field teams/have nothing to play for.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hound of ulster on October 15, 2010, 09:18:21 AM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 15, 2010, 08:49:25 AM
Quote from: blue on October 14, 2010, 10:05:27 PM
Id say dats keady safe now,2b honest der 2good 4 div 3 league but in sayin dat i think jus mid table team in div 2,madden v ballyhagan b good game now losing team down,

doubt they are a mid table team they have been in the relegation zone practically the whole year and now seem to be getting points when teams are struggling to field teams/have nothing to play for.
seem thing every year with keady,struggling to get games played,i know they get games called off because of the hurling,but the hurling and football clubs are two seperate clubs,how is this allowed to affect their football fixtures list?not 100% but middletown seem to get their games played in time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 15, 2010, 10:36:36 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 14, 2010, 11:43:35 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 14, 2010, 04:07:18 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 14, 2010, 12:21:33 PM
lola you seem to have a lot to say about football for one who hasnt even played senior football. its amazing what knowledge and opions u get from being on the terraces. come on you really are related to illdecide who in the same position. lol

This illdecide fella must be a legend :D

On a serious note though that comment gets up my nose. Because i've never played senior football then i'm not entitled to an opinion, it's the same too when people say you can't become a good manager if you haven't played at the top level ::).

And i bet a good few here on the board didn't play senior football so i can take it their opinion means f**k all too


I know lots of lads who didnt play senior football who have a fantastic knowledge of the game!

What does annoy me though is lads who never had the balls or commitment to put their shoulder to the wheel but then stand on the sidelines and criticise those who do!!

I know lots of lads who play(ed) senior football who haven't a clue, about football...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 15, 2010, 12:23:43 PM
Goats that might be so, but what gets up my nose is the supporters/ yobs who stand on the banks and give opions and dogs abuse to players trying their best .and they never kicked a ball as an adult or from underage when it was just a past-time for them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Triggerhappy on October 15, 2010, 12:30:45 PM
It maybe so that the hurling club is seperate from the football club but there are a lot of dual players. As for middletown getting their games played, they are not just as successful as Keady at the hurling!!! Therefore Keady have more hurling games to play.
But it does need to be sorted out that Keady get more games played during the early part of season. Although Co Board have some blame to take as there were weekends when neither Keady footballers or hurlers had a game due to the fixtures set by the county board.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 15, 2010, 12:30:50 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 15, 2010, 12:23:43 PM
Goats that might be so, but what gets up my nose is the supporters/ yobs who stand on the banks and give opions and dogs abuse to players trying their best .and they never kicked a ball as an adult or from underage when it was just a past-time for them.

I wouldn't be a fan of anyone who does that, regardless of their past exploits!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 15, 2010, 12:59:44 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 15, 2010, 12:23:43 PM
Goats that might be so, but what gets up my nose is the supporters/ yobs who stand on the banks and give opions and dogs abuse to players trying their best .and they never kicked a ball as an adult or from underage when it was just a past-time for them.

I'd never do that as i was crop myself. Glass houses and all that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 15, 2010, 01:25:38 PM
There is only one illdecide and any imposter's will be dealt with severely...

Lola you're full of sh1t saan

We Shea, don't have me to drop in and pay ya a visit saan

wanderer i hate tubes who do that too, half of them cnuts never seen a size 5 and they're screaming at you (thats you not me :D)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 15, 2010, 01:30:36 PM
Division 2 Is this correct

Madden v Ballyhegan Loser goes down

Granemore v Harps winner goes up

when are these games?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 15, 2010, 02:01:01 PM
lola point taken but generally most mouths on the line fall into the category. ps heard u wernt a bad underage player I'm grovelling now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardchieftain on October 15, 2010, 02:04:20 PM
Division 2 has thrown up a bit of excitement at both ends of the table. Is it a play off between Granemore and Harps or have they both got a game left ?
The losers of Davitts and Madden are not definitely down but it's 99% certain that will be the case.

Now, how do i manage to drag my hungover self from Dublin to madden on sunday, for 11.30 in the bloody morning !
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 15, 2010, 02:21:46 PM
crossfire how did jamie clarke get on with his dra appeal in the city hotel last night. he was spotted along with cross delegation going into the ulster council appeal meeting
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on October 15, 2010, 02:26:31 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 15, 2010, 01:30:36 PM
Division 2 Is this correct

Madden v Ballyhegan Loser goes down

Granemore v Harps winner goes up

when are these games?

11.30am Sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 15, 2010, 02:37:19 PM
Harps actually play Newtown on Sunday. If they beat them, then it's a promotion play off.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 15, 2010, 07:23:50 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 15, 2010, 02:21:46 PM
crossfire how did jamie clarke get on with his dra appeal in the city hotel last night. he was spotted along with cross delegation going into the ulster council appeal meeting
Didn't hear anyting, so i assume he lost.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on October 15, 2010, 07:31:06 PM
Have Granemore played their last league game yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on October 15, 2010, 08:21:59 PM
yes granemore have completed all league games and harps have newtown to play sunday. if they win i assume the playoff will be next sunday??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: wats that 4 ref on October 15, 2010, 08:39:32 PM
Quote from: pearseog on October 15, 2010, 08:21:59 PM
yes granemore have completed all league games and harps have newtown to play sunday. if they win i assume the playoff will be next sunday??
i may be jumping the gun here but if harps beat g`more in a play off g`more would have lost 2c`ship semi finals and 2 promotion play offs in 2 years now that would be some kick in the balls  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 16, 2010, 07:53:43 PM
Dromintee to win by 1 or 2 pts tomorrow. As someone stated before this is their last chance and if they don't win tomorrow they'll not have as good a chance for a long time. Dromintee have some fine individual footballers and if they can play better as a unit they can pop their cherry tomorrow.

Obviously Cross can never be ruled out of anything and may the best team win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on October 17, 2010, 12:12:20 PM
Best wishes to the Tir na nOg minors in the county final today!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 17, 2010, 01:27:09 PM
Madden beat Ballyhegan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 17, 2010, 02:01:31 PM
keady won...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on October 17, 2010, 02:14:13 PM
What way does that leave it? Who goes down? Think harps won 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on October 17, 2010, 02:43:33 PM
Quote from: downtown on October 17, 2010, 02:14:13 PM
What way does that leave it? Who goes down? Think harps won 2

Keady and Madden safe I think. St Peter's and Ballyhegan or Newtown go down? Ballyhegan finished on 16 pts, Newtown on 15 with Keady to play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardchieftain on October 17, 2010, 03:26:14 PM
How many games have newtown left ? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 17, 2010, 03:28:14 PM
Quote from: ardchieftain on October 17, 2010, 03:26:14 PM
How many games have newtown left ?

Just the one, v Keady.

Keady will rest their hurlers again for the Ulster Hurling final.

We're down!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on October 17, 2010, 04:03:44 PM
any updates from the final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 17, 2010, 04:27:11 PM
who won the minor match??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on October 17, 2010, 04:28:01 PM
latest score thread on main GAA discussion

1-6 cross
1-3dtee
ht
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 17, 2010, 05:23:43 PM
Shane's won minor game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on October 17, 2010, 05:30:15 PM
cross won by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 17, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
Cross won by 3 points, although it was all square 5 mins from the end. Dromintee had chances towards the end, but Cross cracked a great goal chance off the bar at the start of the 2nd half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on October 17, 2010, 08:36:33 PM

The subs were the difference between the two teams

Francie got man of the match - he only came on at half time

Kyle Carragher made a big impact also


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2010, 10:27:26 PM
we'll find it hard to beat cross on their own pitch. Some of the lads down today were impressed and said they had that extra gear. Will be looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 17, 2010, 11:09:47 PM
Congratulations to Cross. I can't help but feel sorry for Dromintee. How many finals is that now? Five? I'm sure they'll be back next year anyway. Also, well done to Shane O'Neills in the minor final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 17, 2010, 11:29:25 PM
Quote from: ogshead on October 17, 2010, 11:09:47 PM
Congratulations to Cross. I can't help but feel sorry for Dromintee. How many finals is that now? Five? I'm sure they'll be back next year anyway. Also, well done to Shane O'Neills in the minor final.

Why feel sorry? Dromintee were just not good enough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on October 18, 2010, 12:03:21 AM
Quote from: Shortso79 on October 17, 2010, 08:36:33 PM

The subs were the difference between the two teams

Francie got man of the match - he only came on at half time

Kyle Carragher made a big impact also

He's been some servant to Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 18, 2010, 12:40:32 AM
Quote from: Orior on October 17, 2010, 11:29:25 PM
Quote from: ogshead on October 17, 2010, 11:09:47 PM
Congratulations to Cross. I can't help but feel sorry for Dromintee. How many finals is that now? Five? I'm sure they'll be back next year anyway. Also, well done to Shane O'Neills in the minor final.

Why feel sorry? Dromintee were just not good enough.

Well that's true but it's the heartbreaking aspect of getting beat in so many finals that I feel sorry for. Have a heart man!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 18, 2010, 09:01:58 AM
took in the match and have to say that dromintee will never have a better chance of beating cross. unfortunately they don't have the belief to beat them when with 5 to go and elements in their favour they froze. the only consolation is that it ends home finals for cross. In relation to the minor final congrats to shane o neills but i have to say the standard of both teams was pretty poor not that shanes will worry. minor teams of cross, harps, killeavey, ogs and keady must regret they didn't put in a better effort as a title was there on the basis of yesterdays game. ps did either of yesterdays minor finalists defeat any of the above teams. think it could be the end of the road for a few dtee starlets, including aiden o rouke and e martin
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 18, 2010, 11:03:27 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 18, 2010, 09:01:58 AM
think it could be the end of the road for a few dtee starlets, including aiden o rouke and e martin

I'm sure those pair would love to be referred to as starlets ;D  True stalwarts they are and they will find it hard to pull next year.  I have great sympathy for my old friend Eddie.  AOR had the county success but Eddie has been battling on for I'd say 20 years in senior football without anything to show for it.

Anyway, well done to our lads yesterday.  I honestly thought it was Dromintee's year as I just thought the dice had fallen well for them in terms of form and suspensions.  Cross are a team for finals though and any team that has only lost one final out of 26 appearances in the last 14 years is always going to be hard to beat when pressure is on.  Hopefully they will push ST Gall's in the Ulster but it will be a big step up for what really is still a very young team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 18, 2010, 12:28:12 PM
Congrats to cross - this team deserve credit as unlike prior cross teams many didnt fancy them. They were in fact just one of 5-6 teams that could have won it so fair play. Considering their youthfulness however im sure playing on home turf added some much appreciated familiarity on what can sometimes be a nervy occasion.

The championship however at least has a more unpredictable look about it. Yes Cross are contenders for the next few years at least but so are many other teams so at least we have our exciting championship back.

Re. Dromintee - It doesnt look as though they will win one now for a while. This might annoy some people but the reason they havent won at least 3 is their lack of history at this level. Up untill the late 90's they were a lower division club and im afraid this was the telling factor on the biggst of days. Once they lost a few - losing finals became self fullfilling for them.

If Clans or Ogs for example had the opportunities (and players in the Clans case) they would def have won several of those finals. You cannot underestimate the power of tradition - just look at how relaxed even a young cross team can be on county final day??

I like Dromintee and I like playing against them - they are a footballing side and I respect that but unfortunatley they are more like Arsenal than United, flair but no middle!

Sorry lads....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: cookstownblue on October 18, 2010, 12:52:40 PM
Anyone got the teams and scorers from cross game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on October 18, 2010, 12:53:23 PM
Poor enough standard of football yesterday. Cross are a pale shadow fo the team they once were. Francies performance when introduced was wortht he trip, he was fantastic, him and the young red head won it for cross. I though Oisin had a good game also and was very quick witted to lay on the goal. Dromintee lost because outside young o rourke the had absolutely no other scoring threat. Vincie martin put in a good shift as did the other o rourkes, dyas had a decent second half scoring an excellent point. The difference was cross has fantastic movement and options going forward, whereas dromintee were far too predictable. Cross won't win ulster based on the performances i have seen this year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on October 18, 2010, 01:08:35 PM
Quote from: cookstownblue on October 18, 2010, 12:52:40 PM
Anyone got the teams and scorers from cross game?

P Hearty
P McKeown
P Kernan
J Morgan
A Kernan (0-1)
D O Callaghan
S Finnegan
J Hanratty
D McKenna (0-1)
M McNamee
S Kernan (0-1)
F Hanratty (1-0)
T Kernan
A Cunningham (0-1)
O McConville (0-4)

Bellew for McNamee, K Carragher (0-3) for P McKeown, M Aherne for S Finnegan, M McNamee for F Hanratty

P McEvoy
C Fegan
E Martin
M McGahon
C McGuinness
A O Rourke
B Shannon
V Martin
G O Neill (0-2)
K Fearon
Micheal O Rourke (1-4)
S O Neill
K Dyas (0-1)
Martin O Rourke (0-1)
O Gaughran

P O Hare for K Fearon, P Courtney for O Gaughran, D McKenna for ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 18, 2010, 01:13:31 PM
Berf I think this is a very young team yet but a lot will depend on how they get on in the St Galls game.  In many respects it is set nicely for them in that there is very little expectation for them to do well but they have a great focus on for their first game, beating the AI champions in Cross.  The one thing that we like is a challenge and this is as big as they get.  Clarke will be back and the experience of Oisin and Francie will be vital but they definitely need more from the MF.  I still think they will struggle to beat St Galls but if they do that opens things up for them.  You would have to fancy whpever comes through that side of the Draw to win it outright with Burren and Coleraine in the other semi.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 18, 2010, 02:01:49 PM
How did big McKenna go yesterday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 18, 2010, 02:11:06 PM
poor enough i thought. once again cross lost the mid-field battle but still won the game. Mc kenna has went back from wer he was a few years ago, injuries and something else seems to have affected him. goats on ur own position i think unfortunately now that keady have swindled their saving points i think that newtown will beat them especially with a former newtown man managing them and keadys hurling final coming up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 18, 2010, 02:21:32 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 18, 2010, 02:11:06 PM
poor enough i thought. once again cross lost the mid-field battle but still won the game. Mc kenna has went back from wer he was a few years ago, injuries and something else seems to have affected him. goats on ur own position i think unfortunately now that keady have swindled their saving points i think that newtown will beat them especially with a former newtown man managing them and keadys hurling final coming up.

Pity - he was my "great white hope!" for Armagh's midfield!

Yeah, it's a pity Keady didn't play Newtown last week when they were due to! Got a message from a Keady man today... "you'll have plenty of local matches next year... Annaghmore, Grange, Collegeland!!" with a sickening wee smiley face at the end!

Tidy!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on October 18, 2010, 02:22:19 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on October 18, 2010, 01:08:35 PM
Quote from: cookstownblue on October 18, 2010, 12:52:40 PM
Anyone got the teams and scorers from cross game?

P Hearty
P McKeown
P Kernan
J Morgan
A Kernan (0-1)
D O Callaghan
S Finnegan
J Hanratty
D McKenna (0-1)
M McNamee
S Kernan (0-1)
F Hanratty (1-0)
T Kernan
A Cunningham (0-1)
O McConville (0-4)

Bellew for McNamee, K Carragher (0-3) for P McKeown, M Aherne for S Finnegan, M McNamee for F Hanratty

P McEvoy
C Fegan
E Martin
M McGahon
C McGuinness
A O Rourke
B Shannon
V Martin
G O Neill (0-2)
K Fearon
Micheal O Rourke (1-4)
S O Neill
K Dyas (0-1)
Martin O Rourke (0-1)
O Gaughran

P O Hare for K Fearon, P Courtney for O Gaughran, D McKenna for ?

I thought it was Cunningham that came off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on October 18, 2010, 02:30:10 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 18, 2010, 02:22:19 PM
Quote from: Wee Shea on October 18, 2010, 01:08:35 PM
Quote from: cookstownblue on October 18, 2010, 12:52:40 PM
Anyone got the teams and scorers from cross game?

P Hearty
P McKeown
P Kernan
J Morgan
A Kernan (0-1)
D O Callaghan
S Finnegan
J Hanratty
D McKenna (0-1)
M McNamee
S Kernan (0-1)
F Hanratty (1-0)
T Kernan
A Cunningham (0-1)
O McConville (0-4)

Bellew for McNamee, K Carragher (0-3) for P McKeown, M Aherne for S Finnegan, M McNamee for F Hanratty

P McEvoy
C Fegan
E Martin
M McGahon
C McGuinness
A O Rourke
B Shannon
V Martin
G O Neill (0-2)
K Fearon
Micheal O Rourke (1-4)
S O Neill
K Dyas (0-1)
Martin O Rourke (0-1)
O Gaughran

P O Hare for K Fearon, P Courtney for O Gaughran, D McKenna for ?

I thought it was Cunningham that came off.

Could have been, I just copied from Irish News tbf.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on October 18, 2010, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 18, 2010, 01:13:31 PM
Berf I think this is a very young team yet but a lot will depend on how they get on in the St Galls game.  In many respects it is set nicely for them in that there is very little expectation for them to do well but they have a great focus on for their first game, beating the AI champions in Cross.  The one thing that we like is a challenge and this is as big as they get.  Clarke will be back and the experience of Oisin and Francie will be vital but they definitely need more from the MF.  I still think they will struggle to beat St Galls but if they do that opens things up for them.  You would have to fancy whpever comes through that side of the Draw to win it outright with Burren and Coleraine in the other semi.
From what I hear bc, he won't be back for the St Galls game. He got 8 weeks for the incident in the Bridge, 4 weeks doubled because he was sent off earlier in the year.
On the game yesterday, it sort of backed up what I thought all year. The county team have never replaced the twins and Oisin so the job to replace them in Cross is even tougher. They're still a talented bunch but the Armagh championship is wide open again and I don't think Cross will beat St Galls (although the Ogs pushed them hard last year).
A lack of firepower hurt Dromintee with Miceal O'Rourke their only threat. A team with better forwards will punish Cross as even they can't keep winning games with 30-40% of possession. Worryingly, from Cross's perspective, without Oisin and Francie they would have been beaten yesterday.
David McKenna needs a good coach to take him to one side and teach him how to time his jumps (bring back Beefer and his balloons). Vincey Martin was giving away 3-4 inches in height but was timing his jumps much better.
It's tough on Dromintee who played well up until the final third of the pitch but in fairness, once Cross conceded the equalising score on two occasions they seemed to up the workrate and get important scores against the breeze.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Wee Shea on October 18, 2010, 03:08:32 PM
Quote from: mackers on October 18, 2010, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 18, 2010, 01:13:31 PM
Berf I think this is a very young team yet but a lot will depend on how they get on in the St Galls game.  In many respects it is set nicely for them in that there is very little expectation for them to do well but they have a great focus on for their first game, beating the AI champions in Cross.  The one thing that we like is a challenge and this is as big as they get.  Clarke will be back and the experience of Oisin and Francie will be vital but they definitely need more from the MF.  I still think they will struggle to beat St Galls but if they do that opens things up for them.  You would have to fancy whpever comes through that side of the Draw to win it outright with Burren and Coleraine in the other semi.
From what I hear bc, he won't be back for the St Galls game. He got 8 weeks for the incident in the Bridge, 4 weeks doubled because he was sent off earlier in the year.
On the game yesterday, it sort of backed up what I thought all year. The county team have never replaced the twins and Oisin so the job to replace them in Cross is even tougher. They're still a talented bunch but the Armagh championship is wide open again and I don't think Cross will beat St Galls (although the Ogs pushed them hard last year).
A lack of firepower hurt Dromintee with Miceal O'Rourke their only threat. A team with better forwards will punish Cross as even they can't keep winning games with 30-40% of possession. Worryingly, from Cross's perspective, without Oisin and Francie they would have been beaten yesterday.
David McKenna needs a good coach to take him to one side and teach him how to time his jumps (bring back Beefer and his balloons). Vincey Martin was giving away 3-4 inches in height but was timing his jumps much better.
It's tough on Dromintee who played well up until the final third of the pitch but in fairness, once Cross conceded the equalising score on two occasions they seemed to up the workrate and get important scores against the breeze.

Re: Clarke, from Armagh forum:

QuoteHe will be back, wrongly reported somewhere as an eight-week suspension when it was four.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on October 18, 2010, 03:21:12 PM
Quote from: mackers on October 18, 2010, 02:41:27 PM
David McKenna needs a good coach to take him to one side and teach him how to time his jumps (bring back Beefer and his balloons). Vincey Martin was giving away 3-4 inches in height but was timing his jumps much better.

He's not assertive enough either. He still plays like it's his first year of senior football. A lad of his size, and now build, should be bullying opponents. Unfortunately from an Armagh perspective, I doubt that type of natural aggression, that lads like Ciaran McKeever have in abundance, can be coached.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 18, 2010, 03:25:43 PM
In Cross they are expecting Jamie Clark back and that is a serious addition to any team. Cross' didn't get much  at midfield yesterday, apart from other issues McKenna seems not to be fit and to have problems with the pace in the second half. It is hard to see Corss' beating St Galls. As noted above Dromintee almost seemed unwilling to take the game by the scruff of the neck yesterday, Galls will not be intimidated by the modern Rangers.

Someone said that Cross' have now more county titles than any team in any other county (this may exclude hurling championships in counties with a handful of teams). They'll not win any more 13 in a rows but Kyle Carragher, James Morgan and Jamie Clark are good young players and McKenna may well do better than this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on October 18, 2010, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 18, 2010, 03:21:12 PM
Quote from: mackers on October 18, 2010, 02:41:27 PM
David McKenna needs a good coach to take him to one side and teach him how to time his jumps (bring back Beefer and his balloons). Vincey Martin was giving away 3-4 inches in height but was timing his jumps much better.

He's not assertive enough either. He still plays like it's his first year of senior football. A lad of his size, and now build, should be bullying opponents. Unfortunately from an Armagh perspective, I doubt that type of natural aggression, that lads like Ciaran McKeever have in abundance, can be coached.
You're right. Looking at yesterday's match from an Armagh prospective, what additional players need to be looked at and who's stock has gone down?
For me, we need to look at SK again (impressed me in Cross's championship matches, a better no 11 that AK), Miceal O'Rourke and James Morgan (he's plenty of the aggression you're talking about). There's potential in Kyle Carragher who has a lot of what we lack in our county team which is pace but he needs proper coaching as aside from yesterday when he played really well, he tends to do everything at 100 mph including shooting.
How TK still gets on the Cross team let alone the county panel would have to be questioned. David McKenna and Paul McKeown have gone down in the pecking order for me (with McKeown particularly poor in the drawn Cullyhanna game). Paul Kernan seems very poor under a high ball with Martin O'Rourke outfielding him for the Dromintee goal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 18, 2010, 04:04:49 PM
Quote from: mackers on October 18, 2010, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 18, 2010, 03:21:12 PM
Quote from: mackers on October 18, 2010, 02:41:27 PM
David McKenna needs a good coach to take him to one side and teach him how to time his jumps (bring back Beefer and his balloons). Vincey Martin was giving away 3-4 inches in height but was timing his jumps much better.

He's not assertive enough either. He still plays like it's his first year of senior football. A lad of his size, and now build, should be bullying opponents. Unfortunately from an Armagh perspective, I doubt that type of natural aggression, that lads like Ciaran McKeever have in abundance, can be coached.
You're right. Looking at yesterday's match from an Armagh prospective, what additional players need to be looked at and who's stock has gone down?
For me, we need to look at SK again (impressed me in Cross's championship matches, a better no 11 that AK), Miceal O'Rourke and James Morgan (he's plenty of the aggression you're talking about). There's potential in Kyle Carragher who has a lot of what we lack in our county team which is pace but he needs proper coaching as aside from yesterday when he played really well, he tends to do everything at 100 mph including shooting.
How TK still gets on the Cross team let alone the county panel would have to be questioned. David McKenna and Paul McKeown have gone down in the pecking order for me (with McKeown particularly poor in the drawn Cullyhanna game). Paul Kernan seems very poor under a high ball with Martin O'Rourke outfielding him for the Dromintee goal.

Was it Tony Kernan or Oisin who missed the free straight in front of the goals?

James Morgan would seem the player from that Cross side most likely to be brought onto the panel. Interestingly I counted 11 of that Dromintee team who have played for Armagh seniors which was significantly more than on the Cross side.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: harlechman on October 18, 2010, 04:10:16 PM
Any chance of getting a decent game of football was ruined by a completely incompetent referee. Some of the tackles that were allowed wouldn't have been out of place on a rugby field. Blantant pulling, dragging, pushes as players went down to pick up the ball etc. Made for a very poor game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on October 18, 2010, 04:39:30 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 18, 2010, 04:04:49 PM
Quote from: mackers on October 18, 2010, 03:48:51 PM
Quote from: AFS on October 18, 2010, 03:21:12 PM
Quote from: mackers on October 18, 2010, 02:41:27 PM
David McKenna needs a good coach to take him to one side and teach him how to time his jumps (bring back Beefer and his balloons). Vincey Martin was giving away 3-4 inches in height but was timing his jumps much better.

He's not assertive enough either. He still plays like it's his first year of senior football. A lad of his size, and now build, should be bullying opponents. Unfortunately from an Armagh perspective, I doubt that type of natural aggression, that lads like Ciaran McKeever have in abundance, can be coached.
You're right. Looking at yesterday's match from an Armagh prospective, what additional players need to be looked at and who's stock has gone down?
For me, we need to look at SK again (impressed me in Cross's championship matches, a better no 11 that AK), Miceal O'Rourke and James Morgan (he's plenty of the aggression you're talking about). There's potential in Kyle Carragher who has a lot of what we lack in our county team which is pace but he needs proper coaching as aside from yesterday when he played really well, he tends to do everything at 100 mph including shooting.
How TK still gets on the Cross team let alone the county panel would have to be questioned. David McKenna and Paul McKeown have gone down in the pecking order for me (with McKeown particularly poor in the drawn Cullyhanna game). Paul Kernan seems very poor under a high ball with Martin O'Rourke outfielding him for the Dromintee goal.

Was it Tony Kernan or Oisin who missed the free straight in front of the goals?

James Morgan would seem the player from that Cross side most likely to be brought onto the panel. Interestingly I counted 11 of that Dromintee team who have played for Armagh seniors which was significantly more than on the Cross side.
It was Oisin.
The only possible reason for having Tony Kernan on the field for Cross or Armagh is his freetaking and with Oisin taking the frees, I wouldn't have him on the team ahead of Martin Aherne or Kyle Carragher.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 06:22:28 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 18, 2010, 09:01:58 AM
took in the match and have to say that dromintee will never have a better chance of beating cross. unfortunately they don't have the belief to beat them when with 5 to go and elements in their favour they froze. the only consolation is that it ends home finals for cross. In relation to the minor final congrats to shane o neills but i have to say the standard of both teams was pretty poor not that shanes will worry. minor teams of cross, harps, killeavey, ogs and keady must regret they didn't put in a better effort as a title was there on the basis of yesterdays game. ps did either of yesterdays minor finalists defeat any of the above teams. think it could be the end of the road for a few dtee starlets, including aiden o rouke and e martin
r u forgetting cullyhanna minors,we knocked cross out in the first round..u from the bridge??lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on October 18, 2010, 06:25:48 PM
Didn't think Tony Kernan was too bad myself. Played a few nice passes and covered a lot of ground. Steady I suppose.

Kyle Carragher would be a very good wee player if he could replicate that kind of performance on a more frequent basis. His shooting has let him down a lot of the times I've watched him.

Would definitely agree with the James Morgan sentiments. Looks to have the makings of an extremely good player.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
the irish news got the man of the match spot on today..had to be michael o'rourke..he was the best player on the dromintee team yday and probably over 60mins to..but sure lets give it to heroic francie..lol.it will prob be his last year..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 18, 2010, 09:46:43 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
the irish news got the man of the match spot on today..had to be michael o'rourke..he was the best player on the dromintee team yday and probably over 60mins to..but sure lets give it to heroic francie..lol.it will prob be his last year..

Did any of your lads ever get man of the match in a senior county final. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on October 18, 2010, 10:01:52 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 06:22:28 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 18, 2010, 09:01:58 AM
took in the match and have to say that dromintee will never have a better chance of beating cross. unfortunately they don't have the belief to beat them when with 5 to go and elements in their favour they froze. the only consolation is that it ends home finals for cross. In relation to the minor final congrats to shane o neills but i have to say the standard of both teams was pretty poor not that shanes will worry. minor teams of cross, harps, killeavey, ogs and keady must regret they didn't put in a better effort as a title was there on the basis of yesterdays game. ps did either of yesterdays minor finalists defeat any of the above teams. think it could be the end of the road for a few dtee starlets, including aiden o rouke and e martin
r u forgetting cullyhanna minors,we knocked cross out in the first round..u from the bridge??lol
Whats with ur LOL all of the time..what age are u 6?plus whats with you and the bridge get over them lad....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on October 18, 2010, 10:03:57 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 18, 2010, 09:46:43 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
the irish news got the man of the match spot on today..had to be michael o'rourke..he was the best player on the dromintee team yday and probably over 60mins to..but sure lets give it to heroic francie..lol.it will prob be his last year..

Did any of your lads ever get man of the match in a senior county final. :)
Well said crossfire..franice played a stormer so had 2 be in the runnin for man of the match..great 2 see him gettin hoisted up in the air at the end....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 18, 2010, 10:16:46 PM
Francie getting the MOTM award is a joke IMO, shows the gombeen nature of our County (Board).  FFS the man played one half of a game of football as a sweeper with no marking responsibilities bar double-teaming Gareth O'Neill on ocassion.  Miceal O'Rourke did very well, but Dromintee would have been f##k all without Vincie Martin yesterday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: goh4205 on October 18, 2010, 10:31:15 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on October 18, 2010, 10:16:46 PM
Francie getting the MOTM award is a joke IMO, shows the gombeen nature of our County (Board).  FFS the man played one half of a game of football as a sweeper with no marking responsibilities bar double-teaming Gareth O'Neill on ocassion.  Miceal O'Rourke did very well, but Dromintee would have been f##k all without Vincie Martin yesterday.
I hope you mean he was non existent Benny, like McKenna was as well. Don't know why people rave about Vince Martin, he's f**k'en useless. Thought the lad Morgan was emense, very powerful, and has pace.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on October 18, 2010, 10:38:22 PM
Is it t county board who pick man of the match, I know for a good few years it was Tones who sponsored MOTM award and they had delegates who selected player, is this not still the case??????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 18, 2010, 09:46:43 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
the irish news got the man of the match spot on today..had to be michael o'rourke..he was the best player on the dromintee team yday and probably over 60mins to..but sure lets give it to heroic francie..lol.it will prob be his last year..

Did any of your lads ever get man of the match in a senior county final. :)
francie did on sunday,,im sure john donaldson or johnny murtagh got it sumtime b4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 10:52:50 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on October 18, 2010, 10:01:52 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 06:22:28 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 18, 2010, 09:01:58 AM
took in the match and have to say that dromintee will never have a better chance of beating cross. unfortunately they don't have the belief to beat them when with 5 to go and elements in their favour they froze. the only consolation is that it ends home finals for cross. In relation to the minor final congrats to shane o neills but i have to say the standard of both teams was pretty poor not that shanes will worry. minor teams of cross, harps, killeavey, ogs and keady must regret they didn't put in a better effort as a title was there on the basis of yesterdays game. ps did either of yesterdays minor finalists defeat any of the above teams. think it could be the end of the road for a few dtee starlets, including aiden o rouke and e martin
r u forgetting cullyhanna minors,we knocked cross out in the first round..u from the bridge??lol
Whats with ur LOL all of the time..what age are u 6?plus whats with you and the bridge get over them lad....
mouth
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 18, 2010, 11:56:54 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 18, 2010, 09:46:43 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
the irish news got the man of the match spot on today..had to be michael o'rourke..he was the best player on the dromintee team yday and probably over 60mins to..but sure lets give it to heroic francie..lol.it will prob be his last year..

Did any of your lads ever get man of the match in a senior county final. :)
francie did on sunday,,im sure john donaldson or johnny murtagh got it sumtime b4


;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 19, 2010, 10:00:08 AM
What's the story with that Orchard TV? Have the county board gave up on that?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 19, 2010, 11:43:57 AM
Went to the Belleek's v St Paul's game at the weekend and wasn't a bad game considering St Paul's fielded their B team but every one that played tried their best, it was another one of those situations where had St Paul's beaten Belleeks then their neighbours EireOg would have got a play off with Belleeks. I'm sure Eire Og wasn't happy about that but this situation seems to be happening in all the divisions.

Keady like clock work every year are about 4-5 games behind everyone else and then come the end of the year when teams have nothing to play for Keady win their remaining matches and be safe, i know this happens to facilitate their hurling team but a one off yes but not every year, it's unfair on the rest of the teams. the Co Bored are going to have to get a bit stricter with some of these teams and start taking the Pt's of the teams who constantly call matches off and deduct Pt's from teams who don't field as well as fine them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 19, 2010, 11:50:24 AM
What was the problems with the playoff system a few years back - seemed to keep matches interesting all year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 19, 2010, 12:24:25 PM
any fixtures for this weekend??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on October 19, 2010, 12:31:52 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 19, 2010, 12:24:25 PM
any fixtures for this weekend??

Taken from OC:

Saturday 23 October
ACL – Div. II (3.30)
Keady v St Michael's (Frank McDonald)
Div. II (Promotion Play-Off) (3.30)
Granemore v Armagh Harps (Stephen Murray) at Ballymacnab
(Extra time, if required)
ACBFL – Southern Section Final (4.00)
Dromintee v Whitecross (Ronan Quigley) at Silverbridge
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 19, 2010, 12:33:39 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 18, 2010, 09:46:43 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
the irish news got the man of the match spot on today..had to be michael o'rourke..he was the best player on the dromintee team yday and probably over 60mins to..but sure lets give it to heroic francie..lol.it will prob be his last year..

Did any of your lads ever get man of the match in a senior county final. :)
francie did on sunday,,im sure john donaldson or johnny murtagh got it sumtime b4



Neither did.
John Murtagh usually got himself sent off in the county final probably as a result of the indiscipline he acquired as a young fellow with yous :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 19, 2010, 12:34:42 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 19, 2010, 11:50:24 AM
What was the problems with the playoff system a few years back - seemed to keep matches interesting all year.
thats what i said goats but it suits some clubs to gain points against teams without their county players and they wont vote for it. the playoff would leave all clubs having to fulfill their fixtures in order to avoid play-offs for relegation and to get into play-offs for promotions or div1 league champs. happens in some counties successfully. some clubs delegates cant see the wood from the trees.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 19, 2010, 12:43:34 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 19, 2010, 12:33:39 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 18, 2010, 09:46:43 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
the irish news got the man of the match spot on today..had to be michael o'rourke..he was the best player on the dromintee team yday and probably over 60mins to..but sure lets give it to heroic francie..lol.it will prob be his last year..

Did any of your lads ever get man of the match in a senior county final. :)
francie did on sunday,,im sure john donaldson or johnny murtagh got it sumtime b4



Neither did.
John Murtagh usually got himself sent off in the county final probably as a result of the indiscipline he acquired as a young fellow with yous :D
murtagh got it in an ulster final against mayobridge a few years back when he single handedly won the game for the rangers,probably as a result of the coaching he acquired as a young fellow from stpats.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 19, 2010, 12:44:46 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 18, 2010, 11:56:54 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 18, 2010, 09:46:43 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
the irish news got the man of the match spot on today..had to be michael o'rourke..he was the best player on the dromintee team yday and probably over 60mins to..but sure lets give it to heroic francie..lol.it will prob be his last year..

Did any of your lads ever get man of the match in a senior county final. :)
francie did on sunday,,im sure john donaldson or johnny murtagh got it sumtime b4


;D ;D ;D

Dont know what your grinning about.
Your club has had a few "blow ins"over the years as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 19, 2010, 12:47:14 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 19, 2010, 12:43:34 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 19, 2010, 12:33:39 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 18, 2010, 09:46:43 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
the irish news got the man of the match spot on today..had to be michael o'rourke..he was the best player on the dromintee team yday and probably over 60mins to..but sure lets give it to heroic francie..lol.it will prob be his last year..

Did any of your lads ever get man of the match in a senior county final. :)
francie did on sunday,,im sure john donaldson or johnny murtagh got it sumtime b4



Neither did.
John Murtagh usually got himself sent off in the county final probably as a result of the indiscipline he acquired as a young fellow with yous :D
murtagh got it in an ulster final against mayobridge a few years back when he single handedly won the game for the rangers,probably as a result of the coaching he acquired as a young fellow from stpats.

Wrong again chap, Benny Coulter got MOM that day.

Do a bit of research before you post silly articles.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 19, 2010, 12:55:03 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 19, 2010, 12:44:46 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 18, 2010, 11:56:54 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 10:48:40 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 18, 2010, 09:46:43 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 06:33:00 PM
the irish news got the man of the match spot on today..had to be michael o'rourke..he was the best player on the dromintee team yday and probably over 60mins to..but sure lets give it to heroic francie..lol.it will prob be his last year..

Did any of your lads ever get man of the match in a senior county final. :)
francie did on sunday,,im sure john donaldson or johnny murtagh got it sumtime b4


;D ;D ;D

Dont know what your grinning about.
Your club has had a few "blow ins"over the years as well.


Wish we could get some now!!! Any St.Pats lads wanna come North?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Legs11 on October 19, 2010, 05:24:09 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 10:52:50 PM
Quote from: Legs11 on October 18, 2010, 10:01:52 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 18, 2010, 06:22:28 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 18, 2010, 09:01:58 AM
took in the match and have to say that dromintee will never have a better chance of beating cross. unfortunately they don't have the belief to beat them when with 5 to go and elements in their favour they froze. the only consolation is that it ends home finals for cross. In relation to the minor final congrats to shane o neills but i have to say the standard of both teams was pretty poor not that shanes will worry. minor teams of cross, harps, killeavey, ogs and keady must regret they didn't put in a better effort as a title was there on the basis of yesterdays game. ps did either of yesterdays minor finalists defeat any of the above teams. think it could be the end of the road for a few dtee starlets, including aiden o rouke and e martin
r u forgetting cullyhanna minors,we knocked cross out in the first round..u from the bridge??lol
Whats with ur LOL all of the time..what age are u 6?plus whats with you and the bridge get over them lad....
mouth
good one u think of tat one urself...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 19, 2010, 05:52:20 PM
get a room lads... or a cow shed as the case is down there! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 19, 2010, 11:47:01 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 19, 2010, 11:43:57 AM
Went to the Belleek's v St Paul's game at the weekend and wasn't a bad game considering St Paul's fielded their B team but every one that played tried their best, it was another one of those situations where had St Paul's beaten Belleeks then their neighbours EireOg would have got a play off with Belleeks. I'm sure Eire Og wasn't happy about that but this situation seems to be happening in all the divisions.

Keady like clock work every year are about 4-5 games behind everyone else and then come the end of the year when teams have nothing to play for Keady win their remaining matches and be safe, i know this happens to facilitate their hurling team but a one off yes but not every year, it's unfair on the rest of the teams. the Co Bored are going to have to get a bit stricter with some of these teams and start taking the Pt's of the teams who constantly call matches off and deduct Pt's from teams who don't field as well as fine them
I hear Belleeks were on the phone to St Paul's midweek trying to butter them up, saying they'll bring a big team up and sit and drink in their social club after for a few hours and spend a few bob. true or not, this time of year can be a real pain in the ass for some teams, I think it's time league positions dictated championship grades - may well go some way to eliminating pointless games and weakened sides being fielded.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 20, 2010, 12:47:03 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 19, 2010, 11:47:01 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 19, 2010, 11:43:57 AM
Went to the Belleek's v St Paul's game at the weekend and wasn't a bad game considering St Paul's fielded their B team but every one that played tried their best, it was another one of those situations where had St Paul's beaten Belleeks then their neighbours EireOg would have got a play off with Belleeks. I'm sure Eire Og wasn't happy about that but this situation seems to be happening in all the divisions.

Keady like clock work every year are about 4-5 games behind everyone else and then come the end of the year when teams have nothing to play for Keady win their remaining matches and be safe, i know this happens to facilitate their hurling team but a one off yes but not every year, it's unfair on the rest of the teams. the Co Bored are going to have to get a bit stricter with some of these teams and start taking the Pt's of the teams who constantly call matches off and deduct Pt's from teams who don't field as well as fine them
I hear Belleeks were on the phone to St Paul's midweek trying to butter them up, saying they'll bring a big team up and sit and drink in their social club after for a few hours and spend a few bob. true or not, this time of year can be a real pain in the ass for some teams, I think it's time league positions dictated championship grades - may well go some way to eliminating pointless games and weakened sides being fielded.

That'll be worse!! Just imagine this, your one point off relegation and the team below you are playing for fiercest rivals who are safe. Do you not think they would be more than willing to field a weakened team just to see you go down. It's exactly the reason I don't want to see championship grades dictated by league position!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 21, 2010, 09:05:18 AM
I see mc keever had a dig at cross today and referees not standing up to them. i dont agree in relation to jimmy mc kee in the first match i thought he handled it well but in the replay devlin certainly gave a few dubious decisions to get cross over the line. theres not doubt over the years cross have got the rub of the green from referees i remember especially 2004 in keady when ogs had them beat and oisin should have got the line for headbutting but he got the free instead from that clown henderson and won the game. but when ur the best sometimes you get crucial decision like back then. this is the end of home finals for cross so there can be no complaints on venues going forward. i still feel and congrats to cross that the championship will move about over the next few years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on October 21, 2010, 10:24:30 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 21, 2010, 09:05:18 AM
I see mc keever had a dig at cross today and referees not standing up to them. i dont agree in relation to jimmy mc kee in the first match i thought he handled it well but in the replay devlin certainly gave a few dubious decisions to get cross over the line. theres not doubt over the years cross have got the rub of the green from referees i remember especially 2004 in keady when ogs had them beat and oisin should have got the line for headbutting but he got the free instead from that clown henderson and won the game. but when ur the best sometimes you get crucial decision like back then. this is the end of home finals for cross so there can be no complaints on venues going forward. i still feel and congrats to cross that the championship will move about over the next few years.
It was really one line of quite a long interview yet the Irish News turned it into a headline on the front page and a banner headline in the sports section. If I were Ciaran I wouldn't give any more interviews to that pr1ck Crossan who was the main culprit in spreading bullsh1t during the appointment process for Paddy O'Rourke. 
If you read through the interview he says that they had enough chances to beat Cross without any referee intervention.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 21, 2010, 11:02:43 AM
One of the St Galls mentors won the half time draw ( £100 stg ) at the Armagh county final in Crossmaglen on sunday.
His next visit here will not be as joyous. ;)

Unless, of course, he wins the half time draw again. :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on October 21, 2010, 11:49:33 AM
Quote from: crossfire on October 21, 2010, 11:02:43 AM
One of the St Galls mentors won the half time draw ( £100 stg ) at the Armagh county final in Crossmaglen on sunday.
His next visit here will not be as joyous. ;)

Unless, of course, he wins the half time draw again. :D
There was a row over the PA system at the Bridge which was poor but I would stand in front of the press hut in Cross and I rarely hear any announcements. It's bound to damage sales for the half time draw.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on October 21, 2010, 02:07:03 PM
It was a disgrace to see the behaviour of Aaron Kernan and Francie Bellew at the end of the game on Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 21, 2010, 02:18:50 PM
Quote from: fan01 on October 21, 2010, 02:07:03 PM
It was a disgrace to see the behaviour of Aaron Kernan and Francie Bellew at the end of the game on Sunday.
i take ur on the wind-up, in other words they commiserated with dromintee players
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 21, 2010, 02:19:06 PM
Quote from: fan01 on October 21, 2010, 02:07:03 PM
It was a disgrace to see the behaviour of Aaron Kernan and Francie Bellew at the end of the game on Sunday.

Elaborate.!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 21, 2010, 02:45:21 PM
QuoteThere was a row over the PA system at the Bridge which was poor but I would stand in front of the press hut in Cross and I rarely hear any announcements.

There were a few aspects of the presentation of the county final that could have been improved. Someone could have proof read the programme, for one. The PA system was poor, if there is one thing that has improved over the years and which come down in cost it is electronics, so there is no excuse for this nowadays. And the trad music at the same time as the band was marching around the field at half time was unsatisfactory too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on October 21, 2010, 03:03:16 PM

I presume this referes to the "in the face" remonstarting with dromintee forwards when the game was won? Noticed that myself but i don't think players can be held account to have their full faculties in those circumstances. These are very emotional games and occasions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 21, 2010, 04:52:53 PM
You have to have respect for players especially those that have just lost a final and im sure the cross ones love rubbing everyones nose in it. However im no hypocrite - if I won a county final id pull my dick out and rub it in someones face!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 21, 2010, 04:56:56 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 21, 2010, 04:52:53 PM
You have to have respect for players especially those that have just lost a final and im sure the cross ones love rubbing everyones nose in it. However im no hypocrite - if I won a county final id pull my dick out and rub it in someones face!  ;D
you do that every weekend, mind you not after winning games as that would be sporadic. ps language please
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on October 21, 2010, 06:42:09 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 21, 2010, 02:45:21 PM
QuoteThere was a row over the PA system at the Bridge which was poor but I would stand in front of the press hut in Cross and I rarely hear any announcements.

There were a few aspects of the presentation of the county final that could have been improved. Someone could have proof read the programme, for one. The PA system was poor, if there is one thing that has improved over the years and which come down in cost it is electronics, so there is no excuse for this nowadays. And the trad music at the same time as the band was marching around the field at half time was unsatisfactory too.

there will be big changes as the final will be in Armagh, not in Cross.  also was talking to a man that went early (before the minor game) and was told that part of the stand was cordoned off for cross club members. as neutrals this is a disgrace..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 21, 2010, 09:14:47 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 21, 2010, 02:45:21 PM
QuoteThere was a row over the PA system at the Bridge which was poor but I would stand in front of the press hut in Cross and I rarely hear any announcements.

There were a few aspects of the presentation of the county final that could have been improved. Someone could have proof read the programme, for one. The PA system was poor, if there is one thing that has improved over the years and which come down in cost it is electronics, so there is no excuse for this nowadays. And the trad music at the same time as the band was marching around the field at half time was unsatisfactory too.

I suppose the result didn't please you either. ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 21, 2010, 09:16:32 PM
Quote from: fan01 on October 21, 2010, 06:42:09 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 21, 2010, 02:45:21 PM
QuoteThere was a row over the PA system at the Bridge which was poor but I would stand in front of the press hut in Cross and I rarely hear any announcements.

There were a few aspects of the presentation of the county final that could have been improved. Someone could have proof read the programme, for one. The PA system was poor, if there is one thing that has improved over the years and which come down in cost it is electronics, so there is no excuse for this nowadays. And the trad music at the same time as the band was marching around the field at half time was unsatisfactory too.


there will be big changes as the final will be in Armagh, not in Cross.  also was talking to a man that went early (before the minor game) and was told that part of the stand was cordoned off for cross club members. as neutrals this is a disgrace..


Thats hearsay and untrue.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 21, 2010, 09:19:47 PM
QuoteI suppose the result didn't please you either

No. I was happy with the result in general. Cross could have won by a couple more though, since they hit the crossbar when they should have got a goal and SK, Oisin and Fish missed  points they should have got. Were you happy yourself?

Mind you Rangers probably didn't print the programme, but it is their crap PA system.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 22, 2010, 09:29:36 AM
Now now folks, a touch of the green eyed monster about. There is not a club team in Armagh that wouldn't take Crossmaglen's facilities in the morning ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 22, 2010, 11:36:13 AM
When Davitts completely finished there wont be a team in Ireland that wouldn take them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 22, 2010, 11:47:56 AM
QuoteThere is not a club team in Armagh that wouldn't take Crossmaglen's facilities in the morning

The Cross' ground was famous, they even sent squads of people over from England to take it.

QuoteWhen Davitts completely finished there wont be a team in Ireland that wouldn take them.

Will it have a good PA system? The difference is that in recent years there has only been the odd team in Ireland that could take the Cross team, whatever about the facilities.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 22, 2010, 12:05:01 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 22, 2010, 11:47:56 AM
QuoteWhen Davitts completely finished there wont be a team in Ireland that wouldn take them.

Will it have a good PA system? The difference is that in recent years there has only been the odd team in Ireland that could take the Cross team, whatever about the facilities.
when will that be as i heard the funding has been stopped. ps the ground has been transfered to the armagh county board so all the clubs in armagh will own it. but good luck to the clans if they can complete their project ie changing rooms etc. i beleive st pauls have a fantastic set-up and fair play to them and all clubs who have developed for the good of the gaa.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 22, 2010, 02:18:25 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 21, 2010, 09:05:18 AM
I see mc keever had a dig at cross today and referees not standing up to them. i dont agree in relation to jimmy mc kee in the first match i thought he handled it well but in the replay devlin certainly gave a few dubious decisions to get cross over the line. theres not doubt over the years cross have got the rub of the green from referees i remember especially 2004 in keady when ogs had them beat and oisin should have got the line for headbutting but he got the free instead from that clown henderson and won the game. but when ur the best sometimes you get crucial decision like back then. this is the end of home finals for cross so there can be no complaints on venues going forward. i still feel and congrats to cross that the championship will move about over the next few years.

Instead of going to the papers Mc Keever should have got his Da to have a quiet word with the Referee after the game. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lolafrola on October 22, 2010, 02:45:04 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 22, 2010, 12:05:01 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 22, 2010, 11:47:56 AM
QuoteWhen Davitts completely finished there wont be a team in Ireland that wouldn take them.

Will it have a good PA system? The difference is that in recent years there has only been the odd team in Ireland that could take the Cross team, whatever about the facilities.
when will that be as i heard the funding has been stopped. ps the ground has been transfered to the armagh county board so all the clubs in armagh will own it. but good luck to the clans if they can complete their project ie changing rooms etc. i beleive st pauls have a fantastic set-up and fair play to them and all clubs who have developed for the good of the gaa.

who the feck does own Davit Park anyway? Funding has stopped :-\ sure i thought they were still working away in Francis Street, didn't hear anything myself. I'll have to make a few enquiries
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 22, 2010, 03:27:08 PM
Davitts Park was originaly owned by the people of lurgan and was in the hands of a established trustees made up of several members including people that had passed away. The county board were more or less in charge of it hence the state it was in before the work began.In recent year the ground had been neglected partly due to lack of funding and a county board that were unwilling at every opportunity to regenerate Davitt. Also partly down to the club which adopted the attitude that we didn't own it so it would be foolish to spends money on it that could be used elsewhere.

Recently the clans have secured a 99 year lease from the couty board meaning they are now the sole benficiery of Davitt. Aswell as this they are also responsible for any work being done both finacially and manually. The county board are no longer in the driving seat which has been something our club have been trying to achieve for some time. At the moment there is a brand new 3g pitch which has been up and running for the past 4 or 5 months. They are currently in the process of completing a new pitch and erecting floodlights . This is the first phase of work completed, the project is in three phases. The next phases including new dressing rooms and stands. The second and third stage are pending funding and as we all know funding is scarce at the moment but to my knowledge no funding has been stopped by anyone. So the plans are clear lets hope all goes well on the funding side and we can get this project sorted as Davitt Park should always be held high in couty Armagh football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 22, 2010, 05:40:22 PM
Davitt park hasnt been transferred to anyone - the clans all but own it now which is the way it should always have been.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 22, 2010, 10:08:33 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 22, 2010, 02:18:25 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 21, 2010, 09:05:18 AM
I see mc keever had a dig at cross today and referees not standing up to them. i dont agree in relation to jimmy mc kee in the first match i thought he handled it well but in the replay devlin certainly gave a few dubious decisions to get cross over the line. theres not doubt over the years cross have got the rub of the green from referees i remember especially 2004 in keady when ogs had them beat and oisin should have got the line for headbutting but he got the free instead from that clown henderson and won the game. but when ur the best sometimes you get crucial decision like back then. this is the end of home finals for cross so there can be no complaints on venues going forward. i still feel and congrats to cross that the championship will move about over the next few years.

Instead of going to the papers Mc Keever should have got his Da to have a quiet word with the Referee after the game. ;) ;D
tink ur right,violence is the only way..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 22, 2010, 10:09:51 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 22, 2010, 09:29:36 AM
Now now folks, a touch of the green eyed monster about. There is not a club team in Armagh that wouldn't take Crossmaglen's facilities in the morning ::)
fair play to the rangers,,the sir ronnie flanagan stand is a credit to them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 22, 2010, 10:41:32 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 22, 2010, 10:09:51 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 22, 2010, 09:29:36 AM
Now now folks, a touch of the green eyed monster about. There is not a club team in Armagh that wouldn't take Crossmaglen's facilities in the morning ::)
fair play to the rangers,,the sir ronnie flanagan stand is a credit to them

You really are an awful bollix too aren't ye ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 22, 2010, 11:53:26 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 22, 2010, 10:41:32 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 22, 2010, 10:09:51 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 22, 2010, 09:29:36 AM
Now now folks, a touch of the green eyed monster about. There is not a club team in Armagh that wouldn't take Crossmaglen's facilities in the morning ::)
fair play to the rangers,,the sir ronnie flanagan stand is a credit to them

You really are an awful bollix too aren't ye ::)
haha,id say ud be a gud judge of a bollix, ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2010, 01:04:26 AM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 22, 2010, 11:53:26 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 22, 2010, 10:41:32 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 22, 2010, 10:09:51 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 22, 2010, 09:29:36 AM
Now now folks, a touch of the green eyed monster about. There is not a club team in Armagh that wouldn't take Crossmaglen's facilities in the morning ::)
fair play to the rangers,,the sir ronnie flanagan stand is a credit to them

You really are an awful bollix too aren't ye ::)
haha,id say ud be a gud judge of a bollix, ;D

I spent enough time in school in Cullyhanna to recognise a true bollix like you!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 23, 2010, 11:13:50 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2010, 01:04:26 AM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 22, 2010, 11:53:26 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 22, 2010, 10:41:32 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 22, 2010, 10:09:51 PM
Quote from: lolafrola on October 22, 2010, 09:29:36 AM
Now now folks, a touch of the green eyed monster about. There is not a club team in Armagh that wouldn't take Crossmaglen's facilities in the morning ::)
fair play to the rangers,,the sir ronnie flanagan stand is a credit to them

You really are an awful bollix too aren't ye ::)
haha,id say ud be a gud judge of a bollix, ;D

I spent enough time in school in Cullyhanna to recognise a true bollix like you!
typical cross blowin then.wouldt be like yas 2 b brought up in cullyhanna or sumwhere else
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 23, 2010, 11:42:44 AM
I dont know if hes a blowin or if cullyhanna blew him out!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 23, 2010, 03:25:20 PM
Quotewouldt be like yas 2 b brought up in cullyhanna or sumwhere else

Are you sure this poster went to school, even in Cullyhanna.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 23, 2010, 04:46:33 PM
granemore bt the harps  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 23, 2010, 07:47:36 PM
did Keady bother fielding v Newtown?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 23, 2010, 08:50:03 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on October 23, 2010, 07:47:36 PM
did Keady bother fielding v Newtown?
apparentaly they could only muster 9 players due to soccer/wedding/stag this weekend  do  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardchieftain on October 23, 2010, 08:53:54 PM
That's a fuckin' disgrace
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on October 23, 2010, 09:34:31 PM
Quote from: ardchieftain on October 23, 2010, 08:53:54 PM
That's a fuckin' disgrace
it is indeed , while i would have no love for ballyhegan they certainlty got a raw deal here but then again keady were safe and didnt care about anyone else and its up to each club to get themselves safe and not be relying on others . p og / cb will have a lot to sort out with this club reguarding non fielding and teams picking up easy pts and even  allowing them to play a midweek fixture in callenbridge  to help them  get games played  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 23, 2010, 09:50:50 PM
Another north armagh team getting a raw deal....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on October 23, 2010, 11:48:46 PM
Apparently Keady asked for the game to be put off until next Sunday (which was the original date for this fixture) because the hurlers are playing in the Ulster Club Championship Final tomorrow, but the Co Board in their usual wisdom said no! If this is true then I don't think it's fair to blame the Dwyers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardchieftain on October 23, 2010, 11:54:54 PM
Fair enough, Davitts should have won morre games but my point is one which has been raised here many times, simply, teams who don't field should lose points. Ok, in this case it would seem the county board had a hand in things.  Keady hurlers have possibly the biggest game in their history tomorrow so some sort of common sense should have come into play. Some f**king chance of that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 24, 2010, 10:22:29 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 23, 2010, 09:50:50 PM
Another north armagh team getting a raw deal....

Well a mid Armargh team gets a raw deal ;).

This has to stop and as someone said it is a f**king disgrace, Mr McDonagh has plenty of thinking to do over the winter about fixtures and how to eradicate this for next year. Ballyhegan may well still have been relegated but at least give them a fair crack of the whip.

Keady are at this sh1t every year and then as soon as they're safe they screw someone else that's in the position they were in several weeks ago.

Has this went on in all four divisions this year or is it just the top two?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on October 24, 2010, 01:26:19 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 24, 2010, 10:22:29 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 23, 2010, 09:50:50 PM
Another north armagh team getting a raw deal....

Well a mid Armargh team gets a raw deal ;).

This has to stop and as someone said it is a f**king disgrace, Mr McDonagh has plenty of thinking to do over the winter about fixtures and how to eradicate this for next year. Ballyhegan may well still have been relegated but at least give them a fair crack of the whip.

Keady are at this sh1t every year and then as soon as they're safe they screw someone else that's in the position they were in several weeks ago.Has this went on in all four divisions this year or is it just the top two?

Last year they won Division 3 and played all their fixtures!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 24, 2010, 02:08:02 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 23, 2010, 09:50:50 PM
Another north armagh team getting a raw deal....

ballyhegan are mid armagh team so cant see your point.  however, as previously stated a disgrace
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 24, 2010, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on October 23, 2010, 11:48:46 PM
Apparently Keady asked for the game to be put off until next Sunday (which was the original date for this fixture) because the hurlers are playing in the Ulster Club Championship Final tomorrow, but the Co Board in their usual wisdom said no! If this is true then I don't think it's fair to blame the Dwyers.
the original dates 4 keady newtown games were 29th august and 13th june
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on October 24, 2010, 02:23:26 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 24, 2010, 02:09:08 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on October 23, 2010, 11:48:46 PM
Apparently Keady asked for the game to be put off until next Sunday (which was the original date for this fixture) because the hurlers are playing in the Ulster Club Championship Final tomorrow, but the Co Board in their usual wisdom said no! If this is true then I don't think it's fair to blame the Dwyers.
the original dates 4 keady newtown games were 29th august and 13th june

Yes, but one of those was deferred because of hurling and refixed for next Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on October 24, 2010, 02:38:30 PM
this was posted on armaghgaa.net - any truth to it?

QuoteFunny this whole issue of underhand tactics comes to the fore. unless im suffering from amnesia, i seem to remember that a certain publican from ballyhegan who owns a bar in portadoawn granted a free nights drink to the portadown gaa club in return for them ensuring that ballyhegan gained the necessary two points to ensure their survival in division 2 at that stage! unfortunately on their part there was a restructing of the league format. you made your own bed last year, now lie on it!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 24, 2010, 03:17:01 PM
Ballyhegan have always been a North club as far as I'm concerned, only affiliated themselves with the midboard in the last year or two however that is irrelevant. Regards Keady, they make a mockery of the league. Fair enough a lot of their players have hurling committments, but why the f**k do this every year, how can division two football be so important to them when come next year they'll do the exact same thing?
Title: 2011 Wish list (County Board take note!)
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 24, 2010, 03:44:38 PM
With the season more or less finished with what would you like to see changed for next year?

I'd like to see the leagues either changed/altered so that there are no meaningless games where clubs can lie down for one another or not field etc.Think this has happened in Divisions 1, 2 and 3 and could be argued that two teams have been relegated as a result.

Would also like to B-leagues organised a bit better, was a joke this year and to be honest there is no excuse for it. Same goes for the U21 Championship. Teams shouldn't have to go months without a game in either grade.

No real complaints with the new underage set up which seems to have been successful so credit there to the new Minor board for that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 24, 2010, 04:29:07 PM
keady are a laugh!on oc citing that they couldn't field due to soccer and a wedding!did the fella decide during week he was going to get married?? ::)
Title: Re: 2011 Wish list (County Board take note!)
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 24, 2010, 04:32:07 PM
double headers at championship games and if not organise the games so that gaels can see all the games.  annoys me games being played at same time or times organised that clash e.g. this year had drive from channa like a maniac to make the ogs granemore game after watching nab dromintee game and still missed start of it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: blue on October 24, 2010, 05:56:07 PM
Balleyhagan done them selves no favours at da start of da league keady were lookin da game changed from da sun til either da thurs r Monday nite cause der was a stag party on,ballyhagan wouldn't change it keady couldn't field due 2dis so ballyhagan got da 2points,wit dat in mind y should keady do them a favour n win 2keep them up!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardchieftain on October 24, 2010, 09:41:20 PM
Is text speak acceptable on this site ?
Don't know about the rest of you but it makes my skin crawl.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on October 25, 2010, 07:34:19 AM
I hate it as well, lazy imature kids. Can`t write / won`t write.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 25, 2010, 09:31:04 AM
Quote from: JUst retired on October 25, 2010, 07:34:19 AM
I hate it as well, lazy imature kids. Can`t write / won`t write.

I hate it as well, lazy immature adults.  Can't spell / won't spell. :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 25, 2010, 09:35:53 AM
at least a few mid-armagh local Derby's in division 1 next year with nab and granemore joining the ogs. pity the harps haven't got their act together and got promoted over the past seasons as we are missing the city derby. looks like they will have to settle for Derby's with madden, keady and tullysarren. heavens help us if sarren get a scalp of them next season. ( better use spell check for bcb r i l b slagged )
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 25, 2010, 09:57:10 AM
RE Pints - I never heard of it... sounds like pub talk! - I was at the match though. Portydown tried... but Ballyhegan needed the points more... it shown.

Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 24, 2010, 03:17:01 PM
Ballyhegan have always been a North club as far as I'm concerned, only affiliated themselves with the midboard in the last year or two however that is irrelevant. Regards Keady, they make a mockery of the league. Fair enough a lot of their players have hurling committments, but why the f**k do this every year, how can division two football be so important to them when come next year they'll do the exact same thing?
Originally mid armagh actually...
QuoteBalleyhagan done them selves no favours at da start of da league keady were lookin da game changed from da sun til either da thurs r Monday nite cause der was a stag party on,ballyhagan wouldn't change it keady couldn't field due 2dis so ballyhagan got da 2points,wit dat in mind y should keady do them a favour n win 2keep them up!!

How many weeks did Keady know about the stag do? Ballyhegan negotiated this year with Silverbridge & Clann Eireann to re arrange no problems. All it takes is some notice!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on October 25, 2010, 07:13:36 PM

The County Board should have taken cognisance of the fact that 7/8 of the players were unavailable because of the Hurling Final yesterday and deferred the game for a week. Given their position it would have been surprising if Newtown would have agreed to a move.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on October 25, 2010, 09:12:21 PM
Brokencrossbar1, good one I deserved that. I should have used spell checker. :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 26, 2010, 08:00:30 AM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on October 25, 2010, 07:13:36 PM

The County Board should have taken cognisance of the fact that 7/8 of the players were unavailable because of the Hurling Final yesterday and deferred the game for a week. Given their position it would have been surprising if Newtown would have agreed to a move.

Everyone knew Newtown were getting the points. A Keady man said to me last week... "You'll have lenty of local derby games next year!"

It didn't matter when the game was played! Story is finished now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: the scenic route on October 26, 2010, 11:07:23 AM
Kelly O'Rourke - A newtown man managing Keady, of course they were getting the points
Title: Re: 2011 Wish list (County Board take note!)
Post by: lolafrola on October 26, 2010, 12:09:34 PM
It costs clubs £600 to register an U21 team for insurance and 50% of the teams end up with one match. How can that be? Yes B football is a joke too and i believe the underage teams should be kept to their own areas and then let them play off with other provinces if successful.

Kept the best to the last. Teams who fail to field a team will be fined £500 and deducted 4pts from either their current league position or next years table providing it's relevant (or which ever hurts the most)
Title: Re: 2011 Wish list (County Board take note!)
Post by: Joxer on October 26, 2010, 12:14:02 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 24, 2010, 04:32:07 PM
double headers at championship games and if not organise the games so that gaels can see all the games.  annoys me games being played at same time or times organised that clash e.g. this year had drive from channa like a maniac to make the ogs granemore game after watching nab dromintee game and still missed start of it

Just to add to that!

Stop ripping the people off with Admission Prices.  5 or 6 pounds would be quite sufficent and would make people want to go to games!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 26, 2010, 01:16:16 PM
is john mac making a comeback for rangers?? think that would be a bad move on his behalf imo,, they wont beat st galls and how would things look then
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 26, 2010, 02:50:30 PM
What makes ypu think they won't beat St Gall's??

I think Cross are in with a cracking chance of beating St Gall's. Home advantage, a young enough side full of running and the positive of having to rise to the occassion as underdogs. Granted St Gall's are All Ireland champions but they are beatable. If cross can contain CJ then i think the game is there for them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2010, 02:56:18 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 26, 2010, 01:16:16 PM
is john mac making a comeback for rangers?? think that would be a bad move on his behalf imo,, they wont beat st galls and how would things look then

No

I agree that they won't beat st galls though.  No quite there yet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 26, 2010, 03:07:02 PM
Its not a complete forgone conclussion but I do believe St.Galls will beat them by 2-3 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on October 26, 2010, 03:09:08 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2010, 02:56:18 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 26, 2010, 01:16:16 PM
is john mac making a comeback for rangers?? think that would be a bad move on his behalf imo,, they wont beat st galls and how would things look then

No

I agree that they won't beat st galls though.  No quite there yet

you sure bc1, heard he was training with them last week?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2010, 03:27:11 PM
Quote from: flog the lot on October 26, 2010, 03:09:08 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 26, 2010, 02:56:18 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on October 26, 2010, 01:16:16 PM
is john mac making a comeback for rangers?? think that would be a bad move on his behalf imo,, they wont beat st galls and how would things look then

No

I agree that they won't beat st galls though.  No quite there yet

you sure bc1, heard he was training with them last week?

Think he took training but didn't train himself.  Sure there is no way that man would be fit to play at this stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on October 26, 2010, 09:34:31 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on October 26, 2010, 02:50:30 PM
What makes ypu think they won't beat St Gall's??

I think Cross are in with a cracking chance of beating St Gall's. Home advantage, a young enough side full of running and the positive of having to rise to the occassion as underdogs. Granted St Gall's are All Ireland champions but they are beatable. If cross can contain CJ then i think the game is there for them.
just my personal opinion,they are a good side but they have their faults,we exposed them when the ball is pumped in high around the square. their lacking strengh around the middle to compete in a step up from armagh football.but in sayin that i wouldnt back against them and i hope they win on sunday
Title: Re: 2011 Wish list (County Board take note!)
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 26, 2010, 10:10:14 PM
Quote from: Joxer on October 26, 2010, 12:14:02 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 24, 2010, 04:32:07 PM
double headers at championship games and if not organise the games so that gaels can see all the games.  annoys me games being played at same time or times organised that clash e.g. this year had drive from channa like a maniac to make the ogs granemore game after watching nab dromintee game and still missed start of it

Just to add to that!

Stop ripping the people off with Admission Prices.  5 or 6 pounds would be quite sufficent and would make people want to go to games!

went to down intermediate/senior double header in down(semi final) £8 hard to argue with that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 27, 2010, 12:29:52 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 26, 2010, 03:07:02 PM
Its not a complete forgone conclussion but I do believe St.Galls will beat them by 2-3 points

You also believed that Dromintee would beat them. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on October 27, 2010, 12:38:52 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 27, 2010, 12:29:52 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 26, 2010, 03:07:02 PM
Its not a complete forgone conclussion but I do believe St.Galls will beat them by 2-3 points

You also believed that Dromintee would beat them. :)
Its good to believe in something! :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 27, 2010, 01:42:46 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 27, 2010, 12:29:52 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 26, 2010, 03:07:02 PM
Its not a complete forgone conclussion but I do believe St.Galls will beat them by 2-3 points

You also believed that Dromintee would beat them. :)


I did - that will be last time ill ever tip Dromintee, in my opinion the other week was the best chance they will ever get.

St.Galls are a different proposition altogether though as im sure you will agree.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 27, 2010, 03:59:06 PM
Galls still have a soft centre even though they won the all-ireland and fair play to them. but it willl interesting to see how they get on in cross and dont forget ogs left the result behind them last year in galls own back yard.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on October 27, 2010, 04:54:25 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 27, 2010, 03:59:06 PM
Galls still have a soft centre even though they won the all-ireland and fair play to them. but it willl interesting to see how they get on in cross and dont forget ogs left the result behind them last year in galls own back yard.
Galls rode their luck a few times along the way last year, Cross are a tough proposition in Cross, as has been stated elsewhere Cross aren't as green as they are cabbage looking.
Title: Re: 2011 Wish list (County Board take note!)
Post by: Applesisapples on October 27, 2010, 04:56:59 PM
A bit of Fairness and consistency with Championship programmes, the Senior Hurling Programme wasn't a patch on the football and the Junior one was risible.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 27, 2010, 08:00:01 PM
Jon Mac is available & likely to play, a few important injuries are forcing Cross's hand from what I've heard.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 29, 2010, 01:58:18 PM
weather changing to suit cross, everyones loves a wet and windy day in an open place like cross hum!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 30, 2010, 11:49:31 AM
This board has been f**king poison all week - would someone f**king slag someone else! Wheres that w**ker pints when you need him to annoy the shit out of people
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 30, 2010, 05:10:29 PM
Doohamlet  beat Sarsfields  by 5 points in Cross.
Sarsfields never recovered from early goal.
Doohamlet were much the better team.
Title: Re: Derry Club football and Hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 30, 2010, 09:49:30 PM
Quote from: nintythree on October 30, 2010, 05:59:33 PM
Have Cross any injury worries for St Galls 2moro?

I don't think so.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on October 30, 2010, 10:21:58 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 30, 2010, 05:10:29 PM
Doohamlet  beat Sarsfields  by 5 points in Cross.
Sarsfields never recovered from early goal.
Doohamlet were much the better team.


Wasnt at it but two lads that were said sarsfields were much the better team and kicked themselves out of it. The lads arent sarsfields lads and would have no need whatsoever to praise them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2010, 10:30:01 AM
Our club got a letter from the Chairman from Crossmaglen saying the the roads leading to Cross are closed due to some pre arranged festivities? he then said we'd be best taking the road to Dundalk then Castleblaney!!! Christ that adds on at least 30 minutes, are the roads closed and is there a shorter route?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 31, 2010, 10:57:44 AM
It wouldn't add much time on at all. You would be on the motorway for most of the journey. It takes you in to culloville just a few miles outside cross. The roads are better that way too
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 31, 2010, 12:06:36 PM
King of the Gypsies on?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on October 31, 2010, 01:07:20 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 31, 2010, 12:06:36 PM
King of the Gypsies on?

must be the reason clans couldnt get a team today!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 31, 2010, 01:17:20 PM
2.30
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 31, 2010, 01:19:38 PM
Good man bc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 13aside on October 31, 2010, 01:43:30 PM
hopefully a super game today from two of irelands best sides,sorry cant get with play-off games involved in downshould be a cracker,with st.galls to win(a rare thing for a visiting team to 'cross)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 31, 2010, 05:06:23 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 31, 2010, 10:30:01 AM
Our club got a letter from the Chairman from Crossmaglen saying the the roads leading to Cross are closed due to some pre arranged festivities? he then said we'd be best taking the road to Dundalk then Castleblaney!!! Christ that adds on at least 30 minutes, are the roads closed and is there a shorter route?

Is that why St Galls didn't turn up. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 31, 2010, 06:51:09 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 30, 2010, 10:21:58 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 30, 2010, 05:10:29 PM
Doohamlet  beat Sarsfields  by 5 points in Cross.
Sarsfields never recovered from early goal.
Doohamlet were much the better team.


Wasnt at it but two lads that were said sarsfields were much the better team and kicked themselves out of it. The lads arent sarsfields lads and would have no need whatsoever to praise them.

When was the last time an Armagh team had a good run in the Intermediate championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 13aside on October 31, 2010, 08:13:37 PM
fair play to cross and good luck
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on October 31, 2010, 08:42:13 PM
Told you lads St Gall's didn't have enough scoring players and when C J was marked out of it they had no options. Also Gall's were very indisciplined and this was costly with Mc Conville in fine form. Good stuff from Cross though came out like lions and got in their faces, deserved winners and a steal @11/8  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 01, 2010, 10:40:48 AM
it certainly rubs the st galls loving irish news reporters noses in it. i sick of the hype for galls from the irish news soocer reporters.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on November 01, 2010, 10:50:56 AM
Quote from: Orior on October 31, 2010, 06:51:09 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on October 30, 2010, 10:21:58 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 30, 2010, 05:10:29 PM
Doohamlet  beat Sarsfields  by 5 points in Cross.
Sarsfields never recovered from early goal.
Doohamlet were much the better team.


Wasnt at it but two lads that were said sarsfields were much the better team and kicked themselves out of it. The lads arent sarsfields lads and would have no need whatsoever to praise them.

When was the last time an Armagh team had a good run in the Intermediate championship?

newtown got to an ulster final i think about 10 years ago,got beat i think
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 01, 2010, 10:54:35 AM
Did B'nab not go far a few years ago?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on November 01, 2010, 11:06:59 AM
They got to the final a few years back and were beat by Coleraine.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rionach 4 on November 01, 2010, 03:31:52 PM
Maghery got into the final a few years ago but were beaten By St Michaels  Donegal (colm Mc Faddens team )
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on November 01, 2010, 05:10:29 PM
Quote from: mackers on November 01, 2010, 11:06:59 AM
They got to the final a few years back and were beat by Coleraine.

thats right, the Nab were beat by Coleraine in the Ulster Final after a replay 2006

Coleraine were beat in the all ireland final by a team from Kerry

and now they are representing Derry in Ulster at senior level, they have made great progress




Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on November 01, 2010, 07:05:56 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 01, 2010, 10:40:48 AM
it certainly rubs the st galls loving irish news reporters noses in it. i sick of the hype for galls from the irish news soocer reporters.

Must admit I thought the report today was very poor. Would no one from Cross talk to them to give an alternative view?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on November 02, 2010, 09:19:29 AM
Quote from: Throw ball on November 01, 2010, 07:05:56 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 01, 2010, 10:40:48 AM
it certainly rubs the st galls loving irish news reporters noses in it. i sick of the hype for galls from the irish news soocer reporters.

Must admit I thought the report today was very poor. Would no one from Cross talk to them to give an alternative view?

I hear that there has been a ban imposed by Crossmaglen on giving interviews to the Irish News after perceived slights on the club earlier in the year. They feel aggrieved over articles in the paper regarding JK going bust and printing a letter in  Off the Fence after a National League game last year from some guy saying that Crossmaglen had some of the worst facilities in the country. The relationship between the Rangers and the Irish News won't have improved this morning with   Crossan writing an article about an alleged assault by a Cross sub on one of their backroom team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 02, 2010, 10:08:04 AM
crossan is totally biased towards st galls as can be seen with articles all year. he should stick to discussing too bit junior football. but wait to you see the turn round now that galls are beat suddenly the mighty cross articles will appear. heaney etc dont have any love for armagh or their club teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 02, 2010, 01:33:11 PM
Im sure they are worried....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on November 03, 2010, 10:33:11 PM
The article about Joe kernan and his family was way over the top.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Don Johnson on November 04, 2010, 10:54:34 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 02, 2010, 10:08:04 AM
crossan is totally biased towards st galls as can be seen with articles all year. he should stick to discussing too bit junior football. but wait to you see the turn round now that galls are beat suddenly the mighty cross articles will appear. heaney etc dont have any love for armagh or their club teams.

There has been plenty of articles about Cross and their success. I remember either Crossan or Heaney, possibly both, devoting their columns to Cross in the past.

Cross being children at the minute, wouldn't speak to IN for their recent club supplement, they had to get CV and MOR jr to provide the soundbytes about them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 04, 2010, 12:49:05 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on November 04, 2010, 10:54:34 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 02, 2010, 10:08:04 AM
crossan is totally biased towards st galls as can be seen with articles all year. he should stick to discussing too bit junior football. but wait to you see the turn round now that galls are beat suddenly the mighty cross articles will appear. heaney etc dont have any love for armagh or their club teams.

There has been plenty of articles about Cross and their success. I remember either Crossan or Heaney, possibly both, devoting their columns to Cross in the past.

Cross being children at the minute, wouldn't speak to IN for their recent club supplement, they had to get CV and MOR jr to provide the soundbytes about them.

How's it going Don... :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 04, 2010, 02:07:45 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on November 04, 2010, 10:54:34 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 02, 2010, 10:08:04 AM
crossan is totally biased towards st galls as can be seen with articles all year. he should stick to discussing too bit junior football. but wait to you see the turn round now that galls are beat suddenly the mighty cross articles will appear. heaney etc dont have any love for armagh or their club teams.

There has been plenty of articles about Cross and their success. I remember either Crossan or Heaney, possibly both, devoting their columns to Cross in the past.

Cross being children at the minute, wouldn't speak to IN for their recent club supplement, they had to get CV and MOR jr to provide the soundbytes about them.

Cross have every right not to speak to the IN if they feel that the coverage of JK's personal affairs was unwarranted.  4 sons play on the team and the man is a legend within the club.  Trust me no one in Cross will lose any sleep over any negatives from the papers, if anything they would be welcomed ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 04, 2010, 06:59:59 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on November 04, 2010, 10:54:34 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 02, 2010, 10:08:04 AM
crossan is totally biased towards st galls as can be seen with articles all year. he should stick to discussing too bit junior football. but wait to you see the turn round now that galls are beat suddenly the mighty cross articles will appear. heaney etc dont have any love for armagh or their club teams.

There has been plenty of articles about Cross and their success. I remember either Crossan or Heaney, possibly both, devoting their columns to Cross in the past.

Cross being children at the minute, wouldn't speak to IN for their recent club supplement, they had to get CV and MOR jr to provide the soundbytes about them.

We do our talking on the field.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Don Johnson on November 04, 2010, 07:20:57 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 04, 2010, 06:59:59 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on November 04, 2010, 10:54:34 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 02, 2010, 10:08:04 AM
crossan is totally biased towards st galls as can be seen with articles all year. he should stick to discussing too bit junior football. but wait to you see the turn round now that galls are beat suddenly the mighty cross articles will appear. heaney etc dont have any love for armagh or their club teams.

There has been plenty of articles about Cross and their success. I remember either Crossan or Heaney, possibly both, devoting their columns to Cross in the past.

Cross being children at the minute, wouldn't speak to IN for their recent club supplement, they had to get CV and MOR jr to provide the soundbytes about them.

We do our talking on the field.

Plenty of talking off the field too. Bit of a silly comment given that they would have give interviews to plenty other newspapers, reporters etc. Just not anyone from the IN.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shamrocks forever on November 04, 2010, 11:19:02 PM
Just want to say paddy heaneys sly comment about ballinderry in the irish news today pissed me of i agree with everything phil stewart had to say about crossmaglen in todays paper what they got of with on sunday was an absoulute disgrace nothing short of thuggery. In the 08 ulster club final against us it was the same old thuggery in the 06 final there favourite old son that we f..k joe mcquillan gave cross every thing under the son its no suprise by the way to see him getting big games involving cross you know theres only going to be 1 winner when that tubes involved. Now back to 08 in the replay good old brian crowe the fat man also from cavan any1 noticing the trend?  joe kernans big buddy mr crowe, good old francie bellew who by the way theres not football in drives his elbow into brian mcguckins face in front of the we brown telly tubbys own eyes yet he accuses mcguckin of diving f..cking joke, number 2 tony mcentee puts his elbow in james conways face tellytubby again does f..k all and number 3 paul mckeown nearly breaks collie devlins back tellytubby again ignores. I for 1 dont fall into the cross hype ok theyve won what they have won but referees linesmen and umpires give them sum protection what they get away with is criminal i for 1 hope some good honest team beats them for the good of football that intimidation has to stop. sorry for the rant folks but hada get that of my chess.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 04, 2010, 11:32:22 PM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 04, 2010, 11:19:02 PM
Just want to say paddy heaneys sly comment about ballinderry in the irish news today pissed me of i agree with everything phil stewart had to say about crossmaglen in todays paper what they got of with on sunday was an absoulute disgrace nothing short of thuggery. In the 08 ulster club final against us it was the same old thuggery in the 06 final there favourite old son that we f..k joe mcquillan gave cross every thing under the son its no suprise by the way to see him getting big games involving cross you know theres only going to be 1 winner when that tubes involved. Now back to 08 in the replay good old brian crowe the fat man also from cavan any1 noticing the trend?  joe kernans big buddy mr crowe, good old francie bellew who by the way theres not football in drives his elbow into brian mcguckins face in front of the we brown telly tubbys own eyes yet he accuses mcguckin of diving f..cking joke, number 2 tony mcentee puts his elbow in james conways face tellytubby again does f..k all and number 3 paul mckeown nearly breaks collie devlins back tellytubby again ignores. I for 1 dont fall into the cross hype ok theyve won what they have won but referees linesmen and umpires give them sum protection what they get away with is criminal i for 1 hope some good honest team beats them for the good of football that intimidation has to stop. sorry for the rant folks but hada get that of my chess.

QuoteOn 09 June 1996 Crossmaglen Ranger's young Senior team took to the field to take on Sarsfields
in the first round of the Senior Championship. While everyone in Cross was aware that a
tremendously talented squad of young players was emerging in the club little did we think that
scraping past Sarsfields by a single point in that match was to be the beginning of a legendary
run that was to last for 13 years and has brought the club to the very pinnacle of achievement
making Crossmaglen Rangers a household name and one of the top teams in the country. Rising
to become one of the most successful club teams in the history of the GAA, key players became
legends far and wide, known across the country simply by their first names, the likes of Oisin and
Francie commanded respect and admiration wherever they went.
In the 13 years from 1996 to 2008 the club has landed 13 consecutive Armagh Senior
Championship titles, 7 Ulster Club Championships and 4 All Ireland Club titles. In that time they
played at total of 108 championship matches losing only 9 times with 89 wins and 10 draws to
their credit.

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090503102108/uncyclopedia/images/b/ba/Kiss_my_ass.gif)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: killarm on November 05, 2010, 12:19:28 AM
Excellent reply
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on November 05, 2010, 06:52:41 AM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 04, 2010, 11:19:02 PM
Just want to say paddy heaneys sly comment about ballinderry in the irish news today pissed me of i agree with everything phil stewart had to say about crossmaglen in todays paper what they got of with on sunday was an absoulute disgrace nothing short of thuggery. In the 08 ulster club final against us it was the same old thuggery in the 06 final there favourite old son that we f..k joe mcquillan gave cross every thing under the son its no suprise by the way to see him getting big games involving cross you know theres only going to be 1 winner when that tubes involved. Now back to 08 in the replay good old brian crowe the fat man also from cavan any1 noticing the trend?  joe kernans big buddy mr crowe, good old francie bellew who by the way theres not football in drives his elbow into brian mcguckins face in front of the we brown telly tubbys own eyes yet he accuses mcguckin of diving f..cking joke, number 2 tony mcentee puts his elbow in james conways face tellytubby again does f..k all and number 3 paul mckeown nearly breaks collie devlins back tellytubby again ignores. I for 1 dont fall into the cross hype ok theyve won what they have won but referees linesmen and umpires give them sum protection what they get away with is criminal i for 1 hope some good honest team beats them for the good of football that intimidation has to stop. sorry for the rant folks but hada get that of my chess.

You aren't related to Paddy Kielty by any chance :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shamrocks forever on November 05, 2010, 07:32:38 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 04, 2010, 11:32:22 PM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 04, 2010, 11:19:02 PM
Just want to say paddy heaneys sly comment about ballinderry in the irish news today pissed me of i agree with everything phil stewart had to say about crossmaglen in todays paper what they got of with on sunday was an absoulute disgrace nothing short of thuggery. In the 08 ulster club final against us it was the same old thuggery in the 06 final there favourite old son that we f..k joe mcquillan gave cross every thing under the son its no suprise by the way to see him getting big games involving cross you know theres only going to be 1 winner when that tubes involved. Now back to 08 in the replay good old brian crowe the fat man also from cavan any1 noticing the trend?  joe kernans big buddy mr crowe, good old francie bellew who by the way theres not football in drives his elbow into brian mcguckins face in front of the we brown telly tubbys own eyes yet he accuses mcguckin of diving f..cking joke, number 2 tony mcentee puts his elbow in james conways face tellytubby again does f..k all and number 3 paul mckeown nearly breaks collie devlins back tellytubby again ignores. I for 1 dont fall into the cross hype ok theyve won what they have won but referees linesmen and umpires give them sum protection what they get away with is criminal i for 1 hope some good honest team beats them for the good of football that intimidation has to stop. sorry for the rant folks but hada get that of my chess.

QuoteOn 09 June 1996 Crossmaglen Ranger's young Senior team took to the field to take on Sarsfields
in the first round of the Senior Championship. While everyone in Cross was aware that a
tremendously talented squad of young players was emerging in the club little did we think that
scraping past Sarsfields by a single point in that match was to be the beginning of a legendary
run that was to last for 13 years and has brought the club to the very pinnacle of achievement
making Crossmaglen Rangers a household name and one of the top teams in the country. Rising
to become one of the most successful club teams in the history of the GAA, key players became
legends far and wide, known across the country simply by their first names, the likes of Oisin and
Francie commanded respect and admiration wherever they went.
In the 13 years from 1996 to 2008 the club has landed 13 consecutive Armagh Senior
Championship titles, 7 Ulster Club Championships and 4 All Ireland Club titles. In that time they
played at total of 108 championship matches losing only 9 times with 89 wins and 10 draws to
their credit.

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090503102108/uncyclopedia/images/b/ba/Kiss_my_ass.gif)
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 04, 2010, 11:32:22 PM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 04, 2010, 11:19:02 PM
Just want to say paddy heaneys sly comment about ballinderry in the irish news today pissed me of i agree with everything phil stewart had to say about crossmaglen in todays paper what they got of with on sunday was an absoulute disgrace nothing short of thuggery. In the 08 ulster club final against us it was the same old thuggery in the 06 final there favourite old son that we f..k joe mcquillan gave cross every thing under the son its no suprise by the way to see him getting big games involving cross you know theres only going to be 1 winner when that tubes involved. Now back to 08 in the replay good old brian crowe the fat man also from cavan any1 noticing the trend?  joe kernans big buddy mr crowe, good old francie bellew who by the way theres not football in drives his elbow into brian mcguckins face in front of the we brown telly tubbys own eyes yet he accuses mcguckin of diving f..cking joke, number 2 tony mcentee puts his elbow in james conways face tellytubby again does f..k all and number 3 paul mckeown nearly breaks collie devlins back tellytubby again ignores. I for 1 dont fall into the cross hype ok theyve won what they have won but referees linesmen and umpires give them sum protection what they get away with is criminal i for 1 hope some good honest team beats them for the good of football that intimidation has to stop. sorry for the rant folks but hada get that of my chess.

QuoteOn 09 June 1996 Crossmaglen Ranger's young Senior team took to the field to take on Sarsfields
in the first round of the Senior Championship. While everyone in Cross was aware that a
tremendously talented squad of young players was emerging in the club little did we think that
scraping past Sarsfields by a single point in that match was to be the beginning of a legendary
run that was to last for 13 years and has brought the club to the very pinnacle of achievement
making Crossmaglen Rangers a household name and one of the top teams in the country. Rising
to become one of the most successful club teams in the history of the GAA, key players became
legends far and wide, known across the country simply by their first names, the likes of Oisin and
Francie commanded respect and admiration wherever they went.
In the 13 years from 1996 to 2008 the club has landed 13 consecutive Armagh Senior
Championship titles, 7 Ulster Club Championships and 4 All Ireland Club titles. In that time they
played at total of 108 championship matches losing only 9 times with 89 wins and 10 draws to
their credit.

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Still sticking to what i say bellew is an average player who got a cult hero status for his dirt and thuggery cross couldnt go out and play a good honest game of gaelic with teams who they know are better football teams ie st galls and ballinderry they have to take it to another level its about time the ulster council done there f..king jobs its going on to long
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on November 05, 2010, 09:14:59 AM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 04, 2010, 11:19:02 PM
Just want to say paddy heaneys sly comment about ballinderry in the irish news today pissed me of i agree with everything phil stewart had to say about crossmaglen in todays paper what they got of with on sunday was an absoulute disgrace nothing short of thuggery. In the 08 ulster club final against us it was the same old thuggery in the 06 final there favourite old son that we f..k joe mcquillan gave cross every thing under the son its no suprise by the way to see him getting big games involving cross you know theres only going to be 1 winner when that tubes involved. Now back to 08 in the replay good old brian crowe the fat man also from cavan any1 noticing the trend?  joe kernans big buddy mr crowe, good old francie bellew who by the way theres not football in drives his elbow into brian mcguckins face in front of the we brown telly tubbys own eyes yet he accuses mcguckin of diving f..cking joke, number 2 tony mcentee puts his elbow in james conways face tellytubby again does f..k all and number 3 paul mckeown nearly breaks collie devlins back tellytubby again ignores. I for 1 dont fall into the cross hype ok theyve won what they have won but referees linesmen and umpires give them sum protection what they get away with is criminal i for 1 hope some good honest team beats them for the good of football that intimidation has to stop. sorry for the rant folks but hada get that of my chess.
What match were you watching on Sunday? Your grapes obviously don't get much of the sun up on the lough shore, they are sooo sour. The game was a hard hitting affair which McQuillan made a balls of but even St Galls recognised the best team won. That is the beauty of Gaelic Football the best team always wins.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on November 05, 2010, 09:18:16 AM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 05, 2010, 07:32:38 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 04, 2010, 11:32:22 PM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 04, 2010, 11:19:02 PM
Just want to say paddy heaneys sly comment about ballinderry in the irish news today pissed me of i agree with everything phil stewart had to say about crossmaglen in todays paper what they got of with on sunday was an absoulute disgrace nothing short of thuggery. In the 08 ulster club final against us it was the same old thuggery in the 06 final there favourite old son that we f..k joe mcquillan gave cross every thing under the son its no suprise by the way to see him getting big games involving cross you know theres only going to be 1 winner when that tubes involved. Now back to 08 in the replay good old brian crowe the fat man also from cavan any1 noticing the trend?  joe kernans big buddy mr crowe, good old francie bellew who by the way theres not football in drives his elbow into brian mcguckins face in front of the we brown telly tubbys own eyes yet he accuses mcguckin of diving f..cking joke, number 2 tony mcentee puts his elbow in james conways face tellytubby again does f..k all and number 3 paul mckeown nearly breaks collie devlins back tellytubby again ignores. I for 1 dont fall into the cross hype ok theyve won what they have won but referees linesmen and umpires give them sum protection what they get away with is criminal i for 1 hope some good honest team beats them for the good of football that intimidation has to stop. sorry for the rant folks but hada get that of my chess.

QuoteOn 09 June 1996 Crossmaglen Ranger's young Senior team took to the field to take on Sarsfields
in the first round of the Senior Championship. While everyone in Cross was aware that a
tremendously talented squad of young players was emerging in the club little did we think that
scraping past Sarsfields by a single point in that match was to be the beginning of a legendary
run that was to last for 13 years and has brought the club to the very pinnacle of achievement
making Crossmaglen Rangers a household name and one of the top teams in the country. Rising
to become one of the most successful club teams in the history of the GAA, key players became
legends far and wide, known across the country simply by their first names, the likes of Oisin and
Francie commanded respect and admiration wherever they went.
In the 13 years from 1996 to 2008 the club has landed 13 consecutive Armagh Senior
Championship titles, 7 Ulster Club Championships and 4 All Ireland Club titles. In that time they
played at total of 108 championship matches losing only 9 times with 89 wins and 10 draws to
their credit.

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Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 04, 2010, 11:32:22 PM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 04, 2010, 11:19:02 PM
Just want to say paddy heaneys sly comment about ballinderry in the irish news today pissed me of i agree with everything phil stewart had to say about crossmaglen in todays paper what they got of with on sunday was an absoulute disgrace nothing short of thuggery. In the 08 ulster club final against us it was the same old thuggery in the 06 final there favourite old son that we f..k joe mcquillan gave cross every thing under the son its no suprise by the way to see him getting big games involving cross you know theres only going to be 1 winner when that tubes involved. Now back to 08 in the replay good old brian crowe the fat man also from cavan any1 noticing the trend?  joe kernans big buddy mr crowe, good old francie bellew who by the way theres not football in drives his elbow into brian mcguckins face in front of the we brown telly tubbys own eyes yet he accuses mcguckin of diving f..cking joke, number 2 tony mcentee puts his elbow in james conways face tellytubby again does f..k all and number 3 paul mckeown nearly breaks collie devlins back tellytubby again ignores. I for 1 dont fall into the cross hype ok theyve won what they have won but referees linesmen and umpires give them sum protection what they get away with is criminal i for 1 hope some good honest team beats them for the good of football that intimidation has to stop. sorry for the rant folks but hada get that of my chess.

QuoteOn 09 June 1996 Crossmaglen Ranger's young Senior team took to the field to take on Sarsfields
in the first round of the Senior Championship. While everyone in Cross was aware that a
tremendously talented squad of young players was emerging in the club little did we think that
scraping past Sarsfields by a single point in that match was to be the beginning of a legendary
run that was to last for 13 years and has brought the club to the very pinnacle of achievement
making Crossmaglen Rangers a household name and one of the top teams in the country. Rising
to become one of the most successful club teams in the history of the GAA, key players became
legends far and wide, known across the country simply by their first names, the likes of Oisin and
Francie commanded respect and admiration wherever they went.
In the 13 years from 1996 to 2008 the club has landed 13 consecutive Armagh Senior
Championship titles, 7 Ulster Club Championships and 4 All Ireland Club titles. In that time they
played at total of 108 championship matches losing only 9 times with 89 wins and 10 draws to
their credit.

(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090503102108/uncyclopedia/images/b/ba/Kiss_my_ass.gif)


Still sticking to what i say bellew is an average player who got a cult hero status for his dirt and thuggery cross couldnt go out and play a good honest game of gaelic with teams who they know are better football teams ie st galls and ballinderry they have to take it to another level its about time the ulster council done there f..king jobs its going on to long
Ach, should have read on, now I know you are only taking the pi** mentioning ballinderry in the same sentence as a team that has actually won something consistently. :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 05, 2010, 09:19:24 AM
I tell you what Shamrock, some of the tackling I personally experienced from Ballinderry players over the years bordered on the criminal but guess what I got on with it, i didn't feel the need to run down an excellent football team through sour grapes.  Get over yourself and get over your issues with us.  Ballinderry had a great team and should have won more than they did.  That may give you a chip on your shoulder but it is not Cross's fault nor the Ulster Councils.

As for saying that St Gall's and Ballinderry are better football teams than Cross, I am sorry but the facts tend to disagree with you as neither of them beat us in any championship football, ever!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on November 05, 2010, 10:05:00 AM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 05, 2010, 07:32:38 AMStill sticking to what i say bellew is an average player who got a cult hero status for his dirt and thuggery cross couldnt go out and play a good honest game of gaelic with teams who they know are better football teams ie st galls and ballinderry they have to take it to another level its about time the ulster council done there f..king jobs its going on to long

Back in the enclosure with you:

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?board=9.0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 05, 2010, 12:55:51 PM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 04, 2010, 11:19:02 PM
Just want to say paddy heaneys sly comment about ballinderry in the irish news today pissed me of i agree with everything phil stewart had to say about crossmaglen in todays paper what they got of with on sunday was an absoulute disgrace nothing short of thuggery. In the 08 ulster club final against us it was the same old thuggery in the 06 final there favourite old son that we f..k joe mcquillan gave cross every thing under the son its no suprise by the way to see him getting big games involving cross you know theres only going to be 1 winner when that tubes involved. Now back to 08 in the replay good old brian crowe the fat man also from cavan any1 noticing the trend?  joe kernans big buddy mr crowe, good old francie bellew who by the way theres not football in drives his elbow into brian mcguckins face in front of the we brown telly tubbys own eyes yet he accuses mcguckin of diving f..cking joke, number 2 tony mcentee puts his elbow in james conways face tellytubby again does f..k all and number 3 paul mckeown nearly breaks collie devlins back tellytubby again ignores. I for 1 dont fall into the cross hype ok theyve won what they have won but referees linesmen and umpires give them sum protection what they get away with is criminal i for 1 hope some good honest team beats them for the good of football that intimidation has to stop. sorry for the rant folks but hada get that of my chess.

Yourself and Phil Stuart ( note the correct spelling ) have one thing in common....YOU ARE BOTH SORE LOSERS...



We beat your team in 2 Ulster finals, end of story, it's time to get over it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Croí na hÉireann on November 05, 2010, 02:12:56 PM
Did Ballinderry win the Derry championship? Too lazy to google...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on November 05, 2010, 02:19:21 PM
No.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hedley Lamarr on November 05, 2010, 02:52:34 PM
Quote from: Croí na hÉireann on November 05, 2010, 02:12:56 PM
Did Ballinderry win the Derry championship? Too lazy to google...

Yes, for sour grapes :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 05, 2010, 05:12:51 PM
some crying today. have to admit  that in the past cross did get a extra help but only in the armagh championship. aka keady 2004 v ogs in both matches and look what happened poor old henderson after, he retired with a guilty conscience. however rant over cross beat the shaftys fair and square and didnt need mc quillan. red francie showed the ballinderry hard men up in the past ;) thats their problem.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 05, 2010, 06:19:20 PM
To mention Ballinderry in this regard is laughable. They are well known for their off the ball 'dirt'.

The have been in trouble with their county boards over fighting on a few occasions over the past few years have they not?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shamrocks forever on November 05, 2010, 10:02:33 PM
Lads dont be getting carried away ok il admit cross are a great team im just saying as past while theyve been ott in their physical approach its not how football should be played any1 with a bit of sense would admit cross have got away with murder in numerous games and any1 who knows anything about politics in football would know ballinderry always get a raw deal from the derry county board ie the james conway saga what a joke that was. Ps the shamrocks have consistinley won championships not bad for a we parish on the derry tyrone border plus we play our own players unlike cross who down the years and still to this day poach all the best players from parishes around them :) :). Oh forgot to mention they have no1 to play to win the championship in armagh most teams are rubbish bar maybe 2  :P.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 05, 2010, 10:21:29 PM
Sure yous let a bundle of Huns win the Derry championship....Some standard alright ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 05, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
Ive a number of points to make here shampoo forever:

The lord knows Im no Cross fan but they beat yous in two Ulster finals. Admittedly the conditions suited them. If it had been dry conditions I think yous would have won easliy but it wasnt and yous didnt.

Before you disgrace the rest of Armagh football take a pause and consider that cross have also won the Ulster 7 times out of the 14 times they won Armagh so where was all the fantastic teams to stop them??

Speaking from experience some of the hardest matches Cross have got over the last 15 years have been in Aramgh and not Ulster or the All Ireland.

So it seems to me you have 2 options here:

(1) Take your face for a shite

(2) f**k off back to the Derry page and argue over who is the uglier of the 2 Bradley brothers - I see that arguement has lasted over 1000 pages.

Either way off you go saan - this board is for footballers - and Clann Eireann men. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shamrocks forever on November 05, 2010, 10:59:52 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 05, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
Ive a number of points to make here shampoo forever:

The lord knows Im no Cross fan but they beat yous in two Ulster finals. Admittedly the conditions suited them. If it had been dry conditions I think yous would have won easliy but it wasnt and yous didnt.

Before you disgrace the rest of Armagh football take a pause and consider that cross have also won the Ulster 7 times out of the 14 times they won Armagh so where was all the fantastic teams to stop them??

Speaking from experience some of the hardest matches Cross have got over the last 15 years have been in Aramgh and not Ulster or the All Ireland.

So it seems to me you have 2 options here:

(1) Take your face for a shite

(2) f**k off back to the Derry page and argue over who is the uglier of the 2 Bradley brothers - I see that arguement has lasted over 1000 pages.

Either way off you go saan - this board is for footballers - and Clann Eireann men. ;D ;D
Clann eireann would no a pile of about football awrite. armagh club football is F..king shit cross have had nothing to beat for god sake they won 13 in a row man does that not tell you enough about the standard? They were well rested for ulster every other team had a gutting session to get threw there championship while cross beat every other team in armagh at a canter. Ok il f..k of back now ps couldnt give a f..k about the bradleys i live on the right side of the bridge :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 05, 2010, 11:21:39 PM
That's us told
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Don Johnson on November 06, 2010, 12:29:37 AM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 05, 2010, 10:59:52 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 05, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
Ive a number of points to make here shampoo forever:

The lord knows Im no Cross fan but they beat yous in two Ulster finals. Admittedly the conditions suited them. If it had been dry conditions I think yous would have won easliy but it wasnt and yous didnt.

Before you disgrace the rest of Armagh football take a pause and consider that cross have also won the Ulster 7 times out of the 14 times they won Armagh so where was all the fantastic teams to stop them??

Speaking from experience some of the hardest matches Cross have got over the last 15 years have been in Aramgh and not Ulster or the All Ireland.

So it seems to me you have 2 options here:

(1) Take your face for a shite

(2) f**k off back to the Derry page and argue over who is the uglier of the 2 Bradley brothers - I see that arguement has lasted over 1000 pages.

Either way off you go saan - this board is for footballers - and Clann Eireann men. ;D ;D
Clann eireann would no a pile of about football awrite. armagh club football is F..king shit cross have had nothing to beat for god sake they won 13 in a row man does that not tell you enough about the standard? They were well rested for ulster every other team had a gutting session to get threw there championship while cross beat every other team in armagh at a canter. Ok il f..k of back now ps couldnt give a f..k about the bradleys i live on the right side of the bridge :)
And stay on the Tyrone thread you inbred f**k! That's what makes you Ballinderry c***ts such pukes, youse dunno whether to be riding an oak tree or shoving a red hand up your arse! Everyone in Derry hates youse and same with the Tyronies! What is it with loughshore clubs and their members being complete ballbags ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 06, 2010, 12:57:28 AM
locka locka loo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 06, 2010, 02:09:20 AM
Shamrock having read all of your posts I am struggling to see how you are still persisting with this shite. I will agree with you on one point, that being the Derry championship is harder to win than the Armagh one.
However to say that cross have only won their titles because they were using dirty tactics is not accurate. Over this last 15 years cross have been a great team. They built their game around hard hitting tackling , restricting the opposition to limited scores and picking off scores whatever way at the other end. A tactic that clearly suited the players they had. Granted they have got some calls from officials over the years but this is more noticeable because they have always been in the spotlight . Also when teams are succesful other teams tend to look for other excuses for them getting beaten, rather than just accept they weren't good enough. Having played against cross over the years and been frustrated by these tactics I too at times looked for these excuses. But when you sit down and think about it you have to admire them, after all refs and officials haven't brought them the titles they have won. No other team in ulster have achieved what cross have , they have consistently beaten the best in Ulster and Ireland so let's not play this down. Give credit were credit is due.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 06, 2010, 02:20:20 AM
Another point of interest have a look at the ulster clubs roll of honour. You may change your mind about the standard of Armagh football. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shamrocks forever on November 06, 2010, 10:23:54 AM
Quote from: Don Johnson on November 06, 2010, 12:29:37 AM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 05, 2010, 10:59:52 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 05, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
Ive a number of points to make here shampoo forever:

The lord knows Im no Cross fan but they beat yous in two Ulster finals. Admittedly the conditions suited them. If it had been dry conditions I think yous would have won easliy but it wasnt and yous didnt.

Before you disgrace the rest of Armagh football take a pause and consider that cross have also won the Ulster 7 times out of the 14 times they won Armagh so where was all the fantastic teams to stop them??

Speaking from experience some of the hardest matches Cross have got over the last 15 years have been in Aramgh and not Ulster or the All Ireland.

So it seems to me you have 2 options here:

(1) Take your face for a shite

(2) f**k off back to the Derry page and argue over who is the uglier of the 2 Bradley brothers - I see that arguement has lasted over 1000 pages.

Either way off you go saan - this board is for footballers - and Clann Eireann men. ;D ;D
Clann eireann would no a pile of about football awrite. armagh club football is F..king shit cross have had nothing to beat for god sake they won 13 in a row man does that not tell you enough about the standard? They were well rested for ulster every other team had a gutting session to get threw there championship while cross beat every other team in armagh at a canter. Ok il f..k of back now ps couldnt give a f..k about the bradleys i live on the right side of the bridge :)
And stay on the Tyrone thread you inbred f**k! That's what makes you Ballinderry c***ts such pukes, youse dunno whether to be riding an oak tree or shoving a red hand up your arse! Everyone in Derry hates youse and same with the Tyronies! What is it with loughshore clubs and their members being complete ballbags ???
Nothing inbred about me you w**ker i know where i live and who i play for unlike john donaldson and boys like that so dont give me that shit id say uve been rid plenty of times in an orchard you knob jockey.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 06, 2010, 11:12:10 AM
Id love to be rid in an orchard -its better than getting rid on the gaa board! Yeha!!  ;D

I have to say though shampoo - the reason I have started to really hate you is because you have made me stick up for Cross! I hardly slept a wink last night you p***k!  ;D ;D (And ill hardly sleep tonight no that you have put an image of Donaldsons face into my head - that man could scare halloween)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Don Johnson on November 06, 2010, 11:18:46 AM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 06, 2010, 10:23:54 AM
Quote from: Don Johnson on November 06, 2010, 12:29:37 AM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 05, 2010, 10:59:52 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 05, 2010, 10:36:58 PM
Ive a number of points to make here shampoo forever:

The lord knows Im no Cross fan but they beat yous in two Ulster finals. Admittedly the conditions suited them. If it had been dry conditions I think yous would have won easliy but it wasnt and yous didnt.

Before you disgrace the rest of Armagh football take a pause and consider that cross have also won the Ulster 7 times out of the 14 times they won Armagh so where was all the fantastic teams to stop them??

Speaking from experience some of the hardest matches Cross have got over the last 15 years have been in Aramgh and not Ulster or the All Ireland.

So it seems to me you have 2 options here:

(1) Take your face for a shite

(2) f**k off back to the Derry page and argue over who is the uglier of the 2 Bradley brothers - I see that arguement has lasted over 1000 pages.

Either way off you go saan - this board is for footballers - and Clann Eireann men. ;D ;D
Clann eireann would no a pile of about football awrite. armagh club football is F..king shit cross have had nothing to beat for god sake they won 13 in a row man does that not tell you enough about the standard? They were well rested for ulster every other team had a gutting session to get threw there championship while cross beat every other team in armagh at a canter. Ok il f..k of back now ps couldnt give a f..k about the bradleys i live on the right side of the bridge :)
And stay on the Tyrone thread you inbred f**k! That's what makes you Ballinderry c***ts such pukes, youse dunno whether to be riding an oak tree or shoving a red hand up your arse! Everyone in Derry hates youse and same with the Tyronies! What is it with loughshore clubs and their members being complete ballbags ???
Nothing inbred about me you w**ker i know where i live and who i play for unlike john donaldson and boys like that so dont give me that shit id say uve been rid plenty of times in an orchard you knob jockey.
Oh have I hit a sensitive subject there? Must be some truth in it  ;D
I find it quite rich that a bitch such as yourself from a sheepshagging club whose parish is half in Tyrone can come on here yapping about John Donaldson! Oh and Derry football must have taken a turn for the worst - Coleraine county champions ??? You don't see St Gall's letting Ballymena All Saints win the Antrim title, nor do Cross let Portadown win Armagh! At least in Armagh it goes to a town where it is appreciated and the players don't have to hide the fact their not huns!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Overthebar! on November 06, 2010, 11:56:16 AM
I'm gonna have to bite here regardless if you are a WUM or not Don Johnson. your point which I have highlighted below is one of the most ridiculous I have read on here. keep your argument between yourself and shamrocks poster and don't bring another clubs into it and try and take away from their achievements by spouting sh*te like that...

Quote from: Don Johnson on November 06, 2010, 11:18:46 AM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 06, 2010, 10:23:54 AM
Quote from: Don Johnson on November 06, 2010, 12:29:37 AM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 05, 2010, 10:59:52 PM

Oh have I hit a sensitive subject there? Must be some truth in it  ;D
I find it quite rich that a bitch such as yourself from a sheepshagging club whose parish is half in Tyrone can come on here yapping about John Donaldson! Oh and Derry football must have taken a turn for the worst - Coleraine county champions ??? You don't see St Gall's letting Ballymena All Saints win the Antrim title, nor do Cross let Portadown win Armagh! At least in Armagh it goes to a town where it is appreciated and the players don't have to hide the fact their not huns!




Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 06, 2010, 01:38:54 PM
Grow up you dick its only banter! P.S Its also true!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Triggerhappy on November 06, 2010, 10:19:19 PM
Hi shamrock, can u answer me this? when was brian mcguckin born in ballinderry?
Dont worry, i will answer myself - he wasnt!!!!!!!
So evry club benefits from outsiders - not just Cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: whiskeysteve on November 07, 2010, 12:06:12 AM
Quote from: Don Johnson on November 06, 2010, 11:18:46 AM
Oh and Derry football must have taken a turn for the worst - Coleraine county champions ??? You don't see St Gall's letting Ballymena All Saints win the Antrim title, nor do Cross let Portadown win Armagh! At least in Armagh it goes to a town where it is appreciated and the players don't have to hide the fact their not huns!

Classy guy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shamrocks forever on November 07, 2010, 02:09:12 PM
Quote from: Triggerhappy on November 06, 2010, 10:19:19 PM
Hi shamrock, can u answer me this? when was brian mcguckin born in ballinderry?
Dont worry, i will answer myself - he wasnt!!!!!!!
So evry club benefits from outsiders - not just Cross
Ballinderry blood in him lad his father is a born and bred ballinderry man who won county titles with us not to mention also that brian lives in ballinderry also case open and closed where is donaldsons cross connections at plus them other blow ins?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 07, 2010, 05:03:58 PM
Harps beat Ogs 1-9 to 1-6 in the Northern Section B League final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on November 07, 2010, 05:11:53 PM
any word on how the u21 games went??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 07, 2010, 06:05:38 PM
Quote from: centrefield on November 07, 2010, 05:11:53 PM
any word on how the u21 games went??

We beat Killeavy by 9 at Killeavy and I heard Cross beat Middletown by a point. Us against Cross in the final now. We had to toss with Killeavy for home advantage as there were no neutral venues available. Not sure if that will be the situation for the final. Anyway I'm sure that since Crossmaglen got to play their senior final at home they'll have no difficulty in agreeing to travel to Cullyhanna for this one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 07, 2010, 06:35:48 PM
Now now TAC. That's not how things work, you should know that by now! Was Tasker playing? I'd say a brave few of that u21 team are a part of your senior set-up? Bodes well for the near future for your club though I thought Killeavy would have put up a better fight, especially at home.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 07, 2010, 07:38:12 PM
U21 Championship Semi-final: St Patrick's 2-13 Killeavy 0-10

The under 21 championship finally swung back into action after a long hiatus as St Pat's faced the challenge of Killeavy on Sunday afternoon. With no neutral pitch available, the sides had been forced to toss a coin to decide on venue and luck decided that it would be Cullyhanna who faced the journey to play this vital match at their opponent's ground. Despite the lack of familiar surroundings, St Pat's did not take long to settle as an early Rory O'Neill point opened the scoring. Kieran Hoey added another score on 6 minutes before Cullyhanna took a huge stride forward when full forward Rory McMahon reacted the quickest to a shot which rebounded off the post. Rory made no mistake in finding the net to put his side 5 points ahead after 11 minutes. Killeavy did manage a replying point, however on fifteen minutes Rory McMahon dealt a second decisive blow when an excellent passing movement resulted in another McMahon goal. Seven points behind after the first quarter, Killeavy had the odds stacked against them by this stage but narrowed the gap with a free. Prospects of a revival were lessened somewhat when Cullyhanna managed a trio of points in succession from Robbie Tasker, Eoin McArdle and Kieran Hoey to extend the advantage to nine. To be fair to Killeavy they fought back and managed four points in the final 7 minutes of the first half, three of which were from frees. Further scores from Kieran Hoey and Robbie Tasker ensured that their side enjoyed a comfortable halftime lead on a scoreline of 2-7 to 0-6.

With the game threatening to get beyond Killeavy, the home side needed a good start to the second half and began with a pointed free. A Kyle McEvoy point following a Robbie Tasker pass extended the St Pat's advantage before the best piece of play of the second half saw Genie McCooey win possession and link well with Kieran Hoey before releasing Kyle McEvoy through on goal. Though Kyle's long range goal effort was well saved, Robbie Tasker was on hand to gain some consolation with another point. 13 minutes into the second half, a great individual run by Tony Donnelly led to Robbie Tasker notching point with the outside of his boot. By this stage St Pat's were well on top and although Killeavy pointed two frees either side of a Kieran Hoey point, the result never really looked in danger during what was, in truth, a fairly lacklustre second half. Killeavy kicked a further point to bring themselves within two goals but although they attempted to create goal chances with high balls in the direction of the square, the Cullyhanna backs defended stoutly and never seemed likely to concede the goals which Killeavy so desperately needed. Indeed it was St Pat's who finished the match the strongest as points from Kieran Hoey and two excellent Robbie Tasker scores ensured safe passage to the County final for the Cullyhanna men.

While semi-finals are all about the winning, it was pleasing to see St Pat's overcome the penultimate hurdle with a measure of style and comfort. Without a match for 6 months, this was always likely to a tricky assignment but the team can now look forward to renewing acquaintances with old rivals Crossmaglen Rangers in the final. Best on the day for St Pat's were Pearse Casey who had an excellent match at midfield and Robbie Tasker and Kieran Hoey who were a constant threat up front. Rory McMahon also deserves great credit for his opportunism in dispatching the match winning goals.

Starting XV: Deaglan McArdle; Micky Murray, Colm Hoey, Sean O'Neill; Genie McCooey, Niall McShane, Eoin McArdle (0-1); Tony Donelly, Pearse Casey; Rory O'Neill (0-1), Kieran Hoey (0-5), Kieran Nugent; Kyle McEvoy (0-1), Rory McMahon (2-0), Robbie Tasker (0-6). Subs Used: Cathal O'Neill, Eamon McArdle
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 08, 2010, 08:41:57 AM
Quote from: Shamrocks forever on November 05, 2010, 10:02:33 PM
Lads dont be getting carried away ok il admit cross are a great team im just saying as past while theyve been ott in their physical approach its not how football should be played any1 with a bit of sense would admit cross have got away with murder in numerous games and any1 who knows anything about politics in football would know ballinderry always get a raw deal from the derry county board ie the james conway saga what a joke that was. Ps the shamrocks have consistinley won championships not bad for a we parish on the derry tyrone border plus we play our own players unlike cross who down the years and still to this day poach all the best players from parishes around them :) :). Oh forgot to mention they have no1 to play to win the championship in armagh most teams are rubbish bar maybe 2  :P.
having taken in the burren game it proves that derry football must be shit and indeed ballinderry must have gone to the dogs as they let coleraine beat them. at least cross are getting tough matches before going into the ulster championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on November 08, 2010, 09:21:58 AM
Some of the debate on here has taken a seriously abusive form. I'm not from Cross so no axe to grind. They dominate football in Armagh and Ulster because of their structures and approach to the game. Yes like most clubs they benefit from so called blowins from time to time. All clubs do, people marry and move into parishes, in fact it probably happens less now than in the 50's and 60's with mobility, players go back to the home club irrespective of where they live. I wouldn't agree with most of the Ballinderry man's posts, but he is entitled to make them, after all if we didn't have different opinions there wouldn't need to be a board.

Anyway to move on, does anyone think Cross will beat Burren?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on November 08, 2010, 10:30:24 AM
Think Cross ended up winning by 4 points in the U21 semi on saturday, although Middletown where winning by 6 points early in the second half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 08, 2010, 10:49:03 PM
Good luck to Killeavy under 16's in the Ulster final on Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 08, 2010, 11:27:20 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 07, 2010, 06:35:48 PM
Now now TAC. That's not how things work, you should know that by now! Was Tasker playing? I'd say a brave few of that u21 team are a part of your senior set-up? Bodes well for the near future for your club though I thought Killeavy would have put up a better fight, especially at home.

7 of that team would be regular Senior starters. Hadn't realised myself it was that many. Another 2 county minors as well who'll be challenging for first team berths next season. Very promising side with 4 players involved with Armagh u21s this year. Crossmaglen are rarely easily beaten however.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on November 08, 2010, 11:37:09 PM
would fancy burren to give cross a sterner test than St Galls

should be a decent game weather permitting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 08, 2010, 11:45:43 PM
where is that game and what time??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on November 09, 2010, 06:42:21 AM
I think it is in Casement park. Not sure of the time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on November 09, 2010, 09:13:12 AM
Quote from: JUst retired on November 09, 2010, 06:42:21 AM
I think it is in Casement park. Not sure of the time.

CVasement 2.30 I think i read.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 09, 2010, 09:32:35 AM
14-11-10 (Sunday)
Grange St Colmcilles v Corduff Gaels
12-45pm Casement Park

Crossmaglen Rangers v Burren St Marys
2-30pm Casement Park
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on November 09, 2010, 09:46:40 AM
Is it on TG4 does anyone know?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: angermanagement on November 09, 2010, 09:58:50 AM
No two hurling matches on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: HIGH BALL CENTRE FIELD on November 09, 2010, 10:26:04 AM
In relation to the comments made by Phil Stuart and some other ballinderry members on this board, I would like to state that this is NOT the opinion of most people in Ballinderry. In 2006 & 2008 the 2 best teams in Ulsterat the time contested the Ulster Final and on each occassion the best team won. Everyone knows that cross have a physical aspect to their game but they also have some great footballers and a great team spirit. Ballinderry has always strifed to meet the winning standards that cross has set. We would always be the first to congratulate them for their success. Over the past few years Ballinderry and Crossmaglen have had a good relationship especialy when cross came down to Ballinderry last year to play in the Conor McCusker tournament and the cross players will tell you about how good a night it was. Letters in papers by men who have left the parish 50 years ago and comments made here recently do not reflect the real feelings of the Ballinderry Shamrocks Club. I hope the Crossmaglen people will not sour the good relationship between the club because of the pettiness of a few people.

PS - I would like to wish Cross and all the other teams the best this weekend and may the best teams win. We will be watching with a little bit of jealously!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 09, 2010, 11:04:23 AM
Fair play High Ball, but to be fair i don't think too many on this thread would have took that other fool serious
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on November 09, 2010, 11:25:06 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 09, 2010, 09:46:40 AM
Is it on TG4 does anyone know?

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=4864.msg877663#msg877663

Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 08, 2010, 11:45:43 PM
where is that game and what time??

http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=15090.msg877747#msg877747

Few boys on that GAA Discussion section that usually know the craic.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: GerryFromDerry on November 09, 2010, 02:09:48 PM
Quote from: HIGH BALL CENTRE FIELD on November 09, 2010, 10:26:04 AM
In relation to the comments made by Phil Stuart and some other ballinderry members on this board, I would like to state that this is NOT the opinion of most people in Ballinderry. In 2006 & 2008 the 2 best teams in Ulsterat the time contested the Ulster Final and on each occassion the best team won. Everyone knows that cross have a physical aspect to their game but they also have some great footballers and a great team spirit. Ballinderry has always strifed to meet the winning standards that cross has set. We would always be the first to congratulate them for their success. Over the past few years Ballinderry and Crossmaglen have had a good relationship especialy when cross came down to Ballinderry last year to play in the Conor McCusker tournament and the cross players will tell you about how good a night it was. Letters in papers by men who have left the parish 50 years ago and comments made here recently do not reflect the real feelings of the Ballinderry Shamrocks Club. I hope the Crossmaglen people will not sour the good relationship between the club because of the pettiness of a few people.

PS - I would like to wish Cross and all the other teams the best this weekend and may the best teams win. We will be watching with a little bit of jealously!

+1
As a proud Ballinderry man i agree with everything outlined above. i have nothing but respect and admiration for Crossmaglen. They beat us fairly in both Ulster finals but there was very little between the sides. I wish them all the best in the remainder of the Ulster C'ship and beyond.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on November 09, 2010, 02:51:07 PM
Fairplay to Highball and Gerry. Every club has it`s share of idiots :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Dell on November 09, 2010, 04:16:07 PM
I don't know where this sudden anti Cross backlash has come from, i was at the St Galls game and thought it was a good exciting tough game with very little real controversy. This current Cross team is nowhere near as physical as teams from the past. There were a lot more 'incidents' in other games in Armagh and Ulster that never ever made the papers or web sites. I can remember incidents in games with Clontibret, Ballinderry, Mayobridge and Errigal Ciaran that all had more life and 'thuggery' as Phil Stewart described it  :D  I can remember a Francie Tackle on Peter the Great in Omagh that was XXX rated (i still don't know how he wasn't sent off and how Peter walked away from it)  but no one mentioned it again!  Other teams seem to have taken their beating and tried to learned from it. May be St Galls are still hurting from having their ego brused. Thought the guard of honour was a master stroke :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossdoesitbest on November 10, 2010, 08:29:42 AM
Well done Highball and Gerry. It's just a pity these two men had to come on and defend the name of their club after the comments of a dillusional clown!!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 10, 2010, 09:24:35 AM
Quote from: Dell on November 09, 2010, 04:16:07 PM
I don't know where this sudden anti Cross backlash has come from, i was at the St Galls game and thought it was a good exciting tough game with very little real controversy. This current Cross team is nowhere near as physical as teams from the past. There were a lot more 'incidents' in other games in Armagh and Ulster that never ever made the papers or web sites. I can remember incidents in games with Clontibret, Ballinderry, Mayobridge and Errigal Ciaran that all had more life and 'thuggery' as Phil Stewart described it  :D  I can remember a Francie Tackle on Peter the Great in Omagh that was XXX rated (i still don't know how he wasn't sent off and how Peter walked away from it)  but no one mentioned it again!  Other teams seem to have taken their beating and tried to learned from it. May be St Galls are still hurting from having their ego brused. Thought the guard of honour was a master stroke :D :D :D

I think it is actually Ballinderry ones complaining about it.  St Gall's have been fairly gracious in fact and apart from a small bit of whining from CJ they have been magnanimous.  The eejits on here bitching and the ones in the paper would be better off looking at their own structures within the club and offering their help instead of being anonymous know it alls who have done nothing to bring their clubs forward. 

As for the guard of honour, I reckon it was just pure honest respect.  It was done for us many times and I feel was right and proper.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: GerryFromDerry on November 10, 2010, 11:00:39 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 10, 2010, 09:24:35 AM
Quote from: Dell on November 09, 2010, 04:16:07 PM
I don't know where this sudden anti Cross backlash has come from, i was at the St Galls game and thought it was a good exciting tough game with very little real controversy. This current Cross team is nowhere near as physical as teams from the past. There were a lot more 'incidents' in other games in Armagh and Ulster that never ever made the papers or web sites. I can remember incidents in games with Clontibret, Ballinderry, Mayobridge and Errigal Ciaran that all had more life and 'thuggery' as Phil Stewart described it  :D  I can remember a Francie Tackle on Peter the Great in Omagh that was XXX rated (i still don't know how he wasn't sent off and how Peter walked away from it)  but no one mentioned it again!  Other teams seem to have taken their beating and tried to learned from it. May be St Galls are still hurting from having their ego brused. Thought the guard of honour was a master stroke :D :D :D

I think it is actually Ballinderry ones complaining about it.  St Gall's have been fairly gracious in fact and apart from a small bit of whining from CJ they have been magnanimous.  The eejits on here bitching and the ones in the paper would be better off looking at their own structures within the club and offering their help instead of being anonymous know it alls who have done nothing to bring their clubs forward. 

As for the guard of honour, I reckon it was just pure honest respect.  It was done for us many times and I feel was right and proper.

One Ballinderry man mentioned it in the Irish News. As someone said above he left the parish 50 years ago and probably hasn't seen us play since the 06 final plus a WUM on a discussion board. You make it sound that our whole club are up in arms ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 10, 2010, 11:08:14 AM
Quote from: GerryFromDerry on November 10, 2010, 11:00:39 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 10, 2010, 09:24:35 AM
Quote from: Dell on November 09, 2010, 04:16:07 PM
I don't know where this sudden anti Cross backlash has come from, i was at the St Galls game and thought it was a good exciting tough game with very little real controversy. This current Cross team is nowhere near as physical as teams from the past. There were a lot more 'incidents' in other games in Armagh and Ulster that never ever made the papers or web sites. I can remember incidents in games with Clontibret, Ballinderry, Mayobridge and Errigal Ciaran that all had more life and 'thuggery' as Phil Stewart described it  :D  I can remember a Francie Tackle on Peter the Great in Omagh that was XXX rated (i still don't know how he wasn't sent off and how Peter walked away from it)  but no one mentioned it again!  Other teams seem to have taken their beating and tried to learned from it. May be St Galls are still hurting from having their ego brused. Thought the guard of honour was a master stroke :D :D :D

I think it is actually Ballinderry ones complaining about it.  St Gall's have been fairly gracious in fact and apart from a small bit of whining from CJ they have been magnanimous.  The eejits on here bitching and the ones in the paper would be better off looking at their own structures within the club and offering their help instead of being anonymous know it alls who have done nothing to bring their clubs forward. 

As for the guard of honour, I reckon it was just pure honest respect.  It was done for us many times and I feel was right and proper.

One Ballinderry man mentioned it in the Irish News. As someone said above he left the parish 50 years ago and probably hasn't seen us play since the 06 final plus a WUM on a discussion board. You make it sound that our whole club are up in arms ???

All I said was it was Ballinderry ones and not St Galls ones, calm down FFS. I was simply trying to point out to Dell that ST Gall's were actually pretty decent about things.  You and HBCF are no doubt more representative about of the feelings of true Ballinderry folk and your best wishes and wise words are welcomed. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: get up there on November 10, 2010, 09:39:29 PM
Quote from: Dell on November 09, 2010, 04:16:07 PM
I don't know where this sudden anti Cross backlash has come from, i was at the St Galls game and thought it was a good exciting tough game with very little real controversy. This current Cross team is nowhere near as physical as teams from the past. There were a lot more 'incidents' in other games in Armagh and Ulster that never ever made the papers or web sites. I can remember incidents in games with Clontibret, Ballinderry, Mayobridge and Errigal Ciaran that all had more life and 'thuggery' as Phil Stewart described it  :D  I can remember a Francie Tackle on Peter the Great in Omagh that was XXX rated (i still don't know how he wasn't sent off and how Peter walked away from it)  but no one mentioned it again!  Other teams seem to have taken their beating and tried to learned from it. May be St Galls are still hurting from having their ego brused. Thought the guard of honour was a master stroke :D :D :D
i really dont think crossmaglen would disrespect all ireland champions like that, when they have been there
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 12, 2010, 10:44:50 AM
cross locals are very gracious and gave the ogs a guard of honour this year when we travelled to cross for our league game. well one car load of boys who were stopped on the cullyhanna road by masked men, who said well done in winning the championship but yous wont win today and they wer right ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 12, 2010, 12:08:25 PM
Back to the good old days Wanderer. I remember years ago going to clans games with my da in the big blue bus we used to have and everytime we entered a zone anywhere near south Armagh the whole bus was took out and searched. At that time i hadn't a clue what was going on and thought it was good craic. Needless to say these guys weren't wishing us any luck.

I also remember going to some of the grounds for county minor training during the dark nights and thinking christ if someone would have been stopping on some of them roads what would i do. Scary stuff you wouldn't have known who would have stopped you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on November 12, 2010, 12:25:36 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 12, 2010, 12:08:25 PM
Back to the good old days Wanderer. I remember years ago going to clans games with my da in the big blue bus we used to have and everytime we entered a zone anywhere near south Armagh the whole bus was took out and searched. At that time i hadn't a clue what was going on and thought it was good craic. Needless to say these guys weren't wishing us any luck.

I also remember going to some of the grounds for county minor training during the dark nights and thinking christ if someone would have been stopping on some of them roads what would i do. Scary stuff you wouldn't have known who would have stopped you.

Why were you going to watch Minor training in South Armagh Winsam?  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 12, 2010, 12:58:04 PM
Because Paddy Power was invented then ;) :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 12, 2010, 03:56:40 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 12, 2010, 10:44:50 AM
cross locals are very gracious and gave the ogs a guard of honour this year when we travelled to cross for our league game. well one car load of boys who were stopped on the cullyhanna road by masked men, who said well done in winning the championship but yous wont win today and they wer right ;D

Them Cullyhanna boys are always up to some mischief. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 12, 2010, 08:55:37 PM
Joxer and I'lldecide two comedians now i see, watch out  ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: throw_ball on November 12, 2010, 11:56:50 PM
johnny hanratty wins his appeal and will line out for cross on sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: throw_ball on November 13, 2010, 12:51:41 AM
i heard that his red card was appealed from the st. galls game, that maybe it should have been a second yellow instead of a red. yeas few years ago he was arrested for hitting a cop, not outside his family home but inside it, while his family was being harrassed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossdoesitbest on November 13, 2010, 02:18:19 PM
Good to hear he's back! We'll need his workrate round the middle!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on November 13, 2010, 03:25:47 PM
Quote from: throw_ball on November 13, 2010, 12:51:41 AM
i heard that his red card was appealed from the st. galls game, that maybe it should have been a second yellow instead of a red. yeas few years ago he was arrested for hitting a cop, not outside his family home but inside it, while his family was being harrassed

Your user name is very similar to mine. Surprised it is allowed. Hope we do not get confused!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on November 13, 2010, 04:06:56 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 13, 2010, 02:18:19 PM
Good to hear he's back! We'll need his workrate round the middle!

I'd say he'll be giving a few Burren boys a bit of 'workrate' alright.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 13, 2010, 04:27:10 PM
Hes f**king shite!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 13, 2010, 05:41:25 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 13, 2010, 04:27:10 PM
Hes f**king shite!

You must have been some player yourself. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 14, 2010, 01:03:12 PM
Nope!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on November 14, 2010, 08:23:28 PM
Opening on Sat. 5th Feb. National league game V Dublin. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: get up there on November 14, 2010, 09:23:47 PM
was down in casement today, cross destroyed burren in the first half, but it was a game of 2 halfs, burren took complete control 2 half, if u are looking for a player that played well for cross, u need to look at the first half, because all of cross 15, were very very poor second half, i think when kyle caragher came of they lacked a ball winner up front,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on November 15, 2010, 10:44:44 AM
Quote from: get up there on November 14, 2010, 09:23:47 PM
was down in casement today, cross destroyed burren in the first half, but it was a game of 2 halfs, burren took complete control 2 half, if u are looking for a player that played well for cross, u need to look at the first half, because all of cross 15, were very very poor second half, i think when kyle caragher came of they lacked a ball winner up front,
Not so TK and AK were superb throughout.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: hound of ulster on November 15, 2010, 03:07:57 PM
have people in armagh underestimated this cross team? I didn,t think they were strong enough to win armagh championship now here they are in ulster final,is there to be another period of dominance in armagh by cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 15, 2010, 03:48:22 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on November 15, 2010, 03:07:57 PM
have people in armagh underestimated this cross team? I didn,t think they were strong enough to win armagh championship now here they are in ulster final,is there to be another period of dominance in armagh by cross?

That's no more inevitable than Naomh Conaill enjoying a period of dominance in Donegal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on November 15, 2010, 04:27:28 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on November 15, 2010, 03:07:57 PM
have people in armagh underestimated this cross team? I didn,t think they were strong enough to win armagh championship now here they are in ulster final,is there to be another period of dominance in armagh by cross?
I reckon that both Cullyhanna and a full strength Pearse Og team will have a realistic chance of beating Cross next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on November 15, 2010, 05:58:59 PM
Quote from: mackers on November 15, 2010, 04:27:28 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on November 15, 2010, 03:07:57 PM
have people in armagh underestimated this cross team? I didn,t think they were strong enough to win armagh championship now here they are in ulster final,is there to be another period of dominance in armagh by cross?
I reckon that both Cullyhanna and a full strength Pearse Og team will have a realistic chance of beating Cross next year.
i hope your right as i would hate to see them continue to dominate in armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 15, 2010, 06:07:06 PM
Cross are by no means unbeatable in the last two games in the Ulster they have came out and blitzed the teams in the first half but sort of took the foot of the pedal or ran out of steam (whichever way you look at it in the second half) I think if a team is to beat they have to be all over the game for at least 50 of the 60 minutes aka like the Og's in last years Armagh championship. St Gall's came out in the second half and put it up to cross as did Burren but you always felt in both games Cross had the game won. Mc Entee said in his post match interview after the St Gall's game that they hadn't planned as drab as second half performance. I never heard any interviews after yesterdays game but i would say he would be saying something similar. It will take a hell of a good team to beat cross because they are so well drilled. In any game they have the  psychological high ground over their opponents before all games. But these factors can all be overcome. There are teams in the Armagh championship with the potential to do this but as we have seen over the years potential means nothing if you don't delivery. Cross consistently deliver and seem to go unpunished on days when they underperform, a sign of a great team some might say.

IMO they are no longer as strong a team as they were, they are heavily reliant on Mc Conville for scores but Clarke's seems to be immense and a great future prospect but they need more of an attacking threat. As usual they are solid enough at the back in terms of marking and they always seem to have  an option particularly the switching of the ball to a man in acres of space on the far wing. I think the time has come for |MC Entee and Bellew to hang up the boots, not an easy thing to do but it needs to happen as both men particularly Bellew is clearly unfit. (a great servant none the less) whoever beats the cross will have to be on top of their game. But i don't see another period of dominance like the one we have witnessed this past 15 years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 15, 2010, 07:09:34 PM
They will win 3/4 out of the next 10 championships. And they are in an Ulster final for one reason - the standard in Ulster this year has been very poor with many teams having enjoyed their first county title for many years or ever!

This means two things - First they are staisfied with their year and two they dont have any experience in Ulster which Cross have in abundance. St. Galls were the only realistic contenders (although Burren made a vliant effort) and they left their balls in Milltown before they boarded the bus to Cross.

Cross prob cant believe their luck in Ulster this year, I feel any of the 3/4 Armagh teams that could have won the championship would have challenged in Ulster.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 15, 2010, 07:48:46 PM
Quote from: torres on November 15, 2010, 05:58:59 PM
Quote from: mackers on November 15, 2010, 04:27:28 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on November 15, 2010, 03:07:57 PM
have people in armagh underestimated this cross team? I didn,t think they were strong enough to win armagh championship now here they are in ulster final,is there to be another period of dominance in armagh by cross?
I reckon that both Cullyhanna and a full strength Pearse Og team will have a realistic chance of beating Cross next year.
i hope your right as i would hate to see them continue to dominate in armagh

Why.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 15, 2010, 07:50:21 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 15, 2010, 07:09:34 PM
They will win 3/4 out of the next 10 championships. And they are in an Ulster final for one reason - the standard in Ulster this year has been very poor with many teams having enjoyed their first county title for many years or ever!

This means two things - First they are staisfied with their year and two they dont have any experience in Ulster which Cross have in abundance. St. Galls were the only realistic contenders (although Burren made a vliant effort) and they left their balls in Milltown before they boarded the bus to Cross.

Cross prob cant believe their luck in Ulster this year, I feel any of the 3/4 Armagh teams that could have won the championship would have challenged in Ulster.

Gods have definitely been shining on us,  sure St Gall's were tired from their run to the AI, even though the Antrim championship let them tip over nicely without having to get out of 2nd gear.  Burren were scared and have no real quality anyway ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on November 15, 2010, 07:51:43 PM
Any word yet on where the final will be played?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 15, 2010, 08:04:48 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 15, 2010, 07:50:21 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 15, 2010, 07:09:34 PM
They will win 3/4 out of the next 10 championships. And they are in an Ulster final for one reason - the standard in Ulster this year has been very poor with many teams having enjoyed their first county title for many years or ever!

This means two things - First they are staisfied with their year and two they dont have any experience in Ulster which Cross have in abundance. St. Galls were the only realistic contenders (although Burren made a vliant effort) and they left their balls in Milltown before they boarded the bus to Cross.

Cross prob cant believe their luck in Ulster this year, I feel any of the 3/4 Armagh teams that could have won the championship would have challenged in Ulster.

Gods have definitely been shining on us,  sure St Gall's were tired from their run to the AI, even though the Antrim championship let them tip over nicely without having to get out of 2nd gear.  Burren were scared and have no real quality anyway ::)
They shit themselves for the first 20mins yesterday which was ultimately their undoing!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossdoesitbest on November 15, 2010, 08:23:17 PM
Everybody trying to find fault with the opposition as to the only reason Cross are in another Ulster final stinks of jealousy and sour grapes. St Galls and Burren did not turn into bad teams overnite but instead came up against a superior outfit and stating that 3 or 4 other teams from Armagh would beat these other county champions is both rubbish and disrespectfull. Maybe someone will come on here and state the obvious. CROSS ARE ACTUALLY A GREAT TEAM!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on November 15, 2010, 08:28:28 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 15, 2010, 07:48:46 PM
Quote from: torres on November 15, 2010, 05:58:59 PM
Quote from: mackers on November 15, 2010, 04:27:28 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on November 15, 2010, 03:07:57 PM
have people in armagh underestimated this cross team? I didn,t think they were strong enough to win armagh championship now here they are in ulster final,is there to be another period of dominance in armagh by cross?
I reckon that both Cullyhanna and a full strength Pearse Og team will have a realistic chance of beating Cross next year.
i hope your right as i would hate to see them continue to dominate in armagh

Why.?
i,d rather see a few teams in the mix rather seeing them continue to dominate as they have been there so long and its getting very tiresome  and as i dont  follow them or like them then i,d rather see a few challengers knock them of their perch .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 15, 2010, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 15, 2010, 08:23:17 PM
Everybody trying to find fault with the opposition as to the only reason Cross are in another Ulster final stinks of jealousy and sour grapes. St Galls and Burren did not turn into bad teams overnite but instead came up against a superior outfit and stating that 3 or 4 other teams from Armagh would beat these other county champions is both rubbish and disrespectfull. Maybe someone will come on here and state the obvious. CROSS ARE ACTUALLY A GREAT TEAM!!!!!!!!!!


Yes they are but they got harder games against Cullyhanna and Dromintee than against St.Galls and Burren!
Title: Your Club Review
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on November 16, 2010, 05:57:28 PM
As title suggests, your own opinion on your club (hurling and footballl) from this year and your hopes for your club for next year.

Club Name:    
Armagh Cuchulainns
League Division Status:
Mid to top of Div 1 Hurling league
Champioship Run:    
Beaten finalists
2010 Review:
Seniors reached final for first time since 2005. Beaten but the knock on the door is getting louder every year - might eventually go through!
Competed in every underage champioship final except for u14 but gave the eventual winners toughest game of their c'ship.
Beaten in U18 and U12 but crowned U16 winners.

Hopes for 2011:
Championship success for senior side
Continued development of underage hurling structures
Reinstate championship competition for u12 players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: true on November 16, 2010, 09:05:09 PM
Cross aren't responsible for who there opposition is. They can only play the teams they meet, and lets face it a wins a win , if cross win the championship there will be very few of the lads refuse their medal because they didnt have any tough games!!!! credit were credits due
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on November 16, 2010, 09:40:57 PM
Cross can only beat what put in front of them. Cullyhanna had their chance and didn't take it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2010, 10:03:13 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 15, 2010, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 15, 2010, 08:23:17 PM
Everybody trying to find fault with the opposition as to the only reason Cross are in another Ulster final stinks of jealousy and sour grapes. St Galls and Burren did not turn into bad teams overnite but instead came up against a superior outfit and stating that 3 or 4 other teams from Armagh would beat these other county champions is both rubbish and disrespectfull. Maybe someone will come on here and state the obvious. CROSS ARE ACTUALLY A GREAT TEAM!!!!!!!!!!


Yes they are but they got harder games against Cullyhanna and Dromintee than against St.Galls and Burren!

Sure they were only going at about half pace, it's a long season and they had to guage their fitness training for the end of November again ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 16, 2010, 10:27:32 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 15, 2010, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 15, 2010, 08:23:17 PM
Everybody trying to find fault with the opposition as to the only reason Cross are in another Ulster final stinks of jealousy and sour grapes. St Galls and Burren did not turn into bad teams overnite but instead came up against a superior outfit and stating that 3 or 4 other teams from Armagh would beat these other county champions is both rubbish and disrespectfull. Maybe someone will come on here and state the obvious. CROSS ARE ACTUALLY A GREAT TEAM!!!!!!!!!!


Yes they are but they got harder games against Cullyhanna and Dromintee than against St.Galls and Burren!

That doesn't mean that either Cullyhanna or Dromintee would have beat both St galls and Burren.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on November 16, 2010, 10:28:41 PM
have to give cross the respect due,near 30 competitive games so far this season and only lost once,alot of these games played without county men,they have adapted their style to suit this new team and could well be a forcde again for another decade in armagh!unfortunately ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: get up there on November 16, 2010, 10:32:43 PM
Quote from: torres on November 15, 2010, 08:28:28 PM
Quote from: crossfire on November 15, 2010, 07:48:46 PM
Quote from: torres on November 15, 2010, 05:58:59 PM
Quote from: mackers on November 15, 2010, 04:27:28 PM
Quote from: hound of ulster on November 15, 2010, 03:07:57 PM
have people in armagh underestimated this cross team? I didn,t think they were strong enough to win armagh championship now here they are in ulster final,is there to be another period of dominance in armagh by cross?
I reckon that both Cullyhanna and a full strength Pearse Og team will have a realistic chance of beating Cross next year.
i hope your right as i would hate to see them continue to dominate in armagh

Why.?
i,d rather see a few teams in the mix rather seeing them continue to dominate as they have been there so long and its getting very tiresome  and as i dont  follow them or like them then i,d rather see a few challengers knock them of their perch .
crossmaglen are the team to beat, they are the team you have to contend with,, sure what would any sport be like if there was no competition??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 17, 2010, 10:13:18 AM
Quote from: crossfire on November 16, 2010, 10:27:32 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 15, 2010, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 15, 2010, 08:23:17 PM
Everybody trying to find fault with the opposition as to the only reason Cross are in another Ulster final stinks of jealousy and sour grapes. St Galls and Burren did not turn into bad teams overnite but instead came up against a superior outfit and stating that 3 or 4 other teams from Armagh would beat these other county champions is both rubbish and disrespectfull. Maybe someone will come on here and state the obvious. CROSS ARE ACTUALLY A GREAT TEAM!!!!!!!!!!


Yes they are but they got harder games against Cullyhanna and Dromintee than against St.Galls and Burren!

That doesn't mean that either Cullyhanna or Dromintee would have beat both St galls and Burren.


I realise that but I certainly wouldnt have written them off against either - they may well have fallen into the trap of being well happy with their maiden championship though and who could blame them. My club have fantastic history in Ulster but I would wonder if our lads would be totally focused on an Ulster game a week after winning our first title in 15 years!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossdoesitbest on November 17, 2010, 01:10:56 PM
Cross game fixed for Clones on Sunday week at 2pm!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 17, 2010, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 17, 2010, 10:13:18 AM
Quote from: crossfire on November 16, 2010, 10:27:32 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 15, 2010, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 15, 2010, 08:23:17 PM
Everybody trying to find fault with the opposition as to the only reason Cross are in another Ulster final stinks of jealousy and sour grapes. St Galls and Burren did not turn into bad teams overnite but instead came up against a superior outfit and stating that 3 or 4 other teams from Armagh would beat these other county champions is both rubbish and disrespectfull. Maybe someone will come on here and state the obvious. CROSS ARE ACTUALLY A GREAT TEAM!!!!!!!!!!


Yes they are but they got harder games against Cullyhanna and Dromintee than against St.Galls and Burren!

That doesn't mean that either Cullyhanna or Dromintee would have beat both St galls and Burren.


I realise that but I certainly wouldnt have written them off against either - they may well have fallen into the trap of being well happy with their maiden championship though and who could blame them. My club have fantastic history in Ulster but I would wonder if our lads would be totally focused on an Ulster game a week after winning our first title in 15 years!

They couldn't focus their eyes never mind their heads if that happened ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 17, 2010, 05:11:55 PM
To be fair, had we wont he county championship, I doubt we'd have made much of an impact in Ulster this year. I think the point is that while Cross are entirely deserving of their place in the Ulster final and would be favourites to win it, this doesn't necessarily mean that they are about to embark on another period of complete dominance in Armagh.
Title: Re: Your Club Review
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 17, 2010, 05:14:31 PM


Club Name:    
St Patrick's Cullyhanna

League Division Status:
4th in Division 1 Football

Champioship Run:    
Beaten semi- finalists

2010 Review:
Announced ourselves as contenders in the Senior championship, reaching our first semi-final since 1998 and only losing to Crossmaglen by a point after a replay
Consistently reached the latter stages of the underage championships, winning the u14 feile. We also have an u21 championship final to look forward to.

Hopes for 2011:

To win the Senior championship. Nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on November 17, 2010, 11:10:05 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2010, 10:03:13 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 15, 2010, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 15, 2010, 08:23:17 PM
Everybody trying to find fault with the opposition as to the only reason Cross are in another Ulster final stinks of jealousy and sour grapes. St Galls and Burren did not turn into bad teams overnite but instead came up against a superior outfit and stating that 3 or 4 other teams from Armagh would beat these other county champions is both rubbish and disrespectfull. Maybe someone will come on here and state the obvious. CROSS ARE ACTUALLY A GREAT TEAM!!!!!!!!!!


Yes they are but they got harder games against Cullyhanna and Dromintee than against St.Galls and Burren!

Sure they were only going at about half pace, it's a long season and they had to guage their fitness training for the end of November again ;)
what a load of shit,typical rangers p***k,cross knew they were in a battle against us and dromintee and only they ref made a **** of himself and wrongly sent robbie of they would have been beaten,but fair play they can only beat whats in front of them but imo they have exeded expectation this year,brutal standard in ulster club footbal at the minute..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 18, 2010, 08:05:30 AM
Quote from: 1life 1club on November 17, 2010, 11:10:05 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2010, 10:03:13 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 15, 2010, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 15, 2010, 08:23:17 PM
Everybody trying to find fault with the opposition as to the only reason Cross are in another Ulster final stinks of jealousy and sour grapes. St Galls and Burren did not turn into bad teams overnite but instead came up against a superior outfit and stating that 3 or 4 other teams from Armagh would beat these other county champions is both rubbish and disrespectfull. Maybe someone will come on here and state the obvious. CROSS ARE ACTUALLY A GREAT TEAM!!!!!!!!!!


Yes they are but they got harder games against Cullyhanna and Dromintee than against St.Galls and Burren!

Sure they were only going at about half pace, it's a long season and they had to guage their fitness training for the end of November again ;)
what a load of shit,typical rangers p***k,cross knew they were in a battle against us and dromintee and only they ref made a **** of himself and wrongly sent robbie of they would have been beaten,but fair play they can only beat whats in front of them but imo they have exeded expectation this year,brutal standard in ulster club footbal at the minute..

(http://a1.phobos.apple.com/us/r1000/017/Purple/42/e8/9f/mzl.pmykaayl.320x480-75.jpg)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on November 18, 2010, 09:16:51 AM
Quote from: 1life 1club on November 17, 2010, 11:10:05 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2010, 10:03:13 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 15, 2010, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 15, 2010, 08:23:17 PM
Everybody trying to find fault with the opposition as to the only reason Cross are in another Ulster final stinks of jealousy and sour grapes. St Galls and Burren did not turn into bad teams overnite but instead came up against a superior outfit and stating that 3 or 4 other teams from Armagh would beat these other county champions is both rubbish and disrespectfull. Maybe someone will come on here and state the obvious. CROSS ARE ACTUALLY A GREAT TEAM!!!!!!!!!!


Yes they are but they got harder games against Cullyhanna and Dromintee than against St.Galls and Burren!

Sure they were only going at about half pace, it's a long season and they had to guage their fitness training for the end of November again ;)
what a load of shit,typical rangers p***k,cross knew they were in a battle against us and dromintee and only they ref made a **** of himself and wrongly sent robbie of they would have been beaten,but fair play they can only beat whats in front of them but imo they have exeded expectation this year,brutal standard in ulster club footbal at the minute..

::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 18, 2010, 10:16:47 AM
I couldnt agree more - too many teams overjoyed by winning their county title (understandably so) Ulster didnt register as a priority for any of them except Cross and St.Galls.

P.S I also have a sneaky suspicion that Armagh was Cross' main priority this year having lost it last year. However they played well against a very disappointing St.Galls and everything opened up after that for them so fair play
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on November 18, 2010, 02:36:42 PM
Who all is on POR's 10 man Senior Development Squad?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 18, 2010, 03:21:13 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 18, 2010, 10:16:47 AM
I couldnt agree more - too many teams overjoyed by winning their county title (understandably so) Ulster didnt register as a priority for any of them except Cross and St.Galls.

P.S I also have a sneaky suspicion that Armagh was Cross' main priority this year having lost it last year. However they played well against a very disappointing St.Galls and everything opened up after that for them so fair play

Where did you pick up that sneaky suspicion from Sherlock?

Was it here at 0.35?

http://www.u.tv/utvplayer/video/133324/108718/242510d6-f574-4481-8a16-b3312e0d2231 (http://www.u.tv/utvplayer/video/133324/108718/242510d6-f574-4481-8a16-b3312e0d2231)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on November 18, 2010, 03:42:58 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 18, 2010, 02:36:42 PM
Who all is on POR's 10 man Senior Development Squad?
Eugene McVerry and Robbie Tasker are two of them anyway........Grugan, Gavin McParland and Declan McKenna made it onto the senior squad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on November 18, 2010, 04:09:01 PM
Quote from: mackers on November 18, 2010, 03:42:58 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 18, 2010, 02:36:42 PM
Who all is on POR's 10 man Senior Development Squad?
Eugene McVerry and Robbie Tasker are two of them anyway........Grugan, Gavin McParland and Declan McKenna made it onto the senior squad.
What about David McKenna?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 18, 2010, 05:48:29 PM
Hes lucky making it onto the Cross squad!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Don Johnson on November 18, 2010, 05:51:27 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on November 18, 2010, 02:36:42 PM
Who all is on POR's 10 man Senior Development Squad?

Stefan Campbell (Clans) and James Lavery (Tones)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on November 18, 2010, 07:22:35 PM
10 man developement squad  ??? wtf will they come up with next   :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 18, 2010, 09:02:47 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on November 17, 2010, 11:10:05 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2010, 10:03:13 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 15, 2010, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 15, 2010, 08:23:17 PM
Everybody trying to find fault with the opposition as to the only reason Cross are in another Ulster final stinks of jealousy and sour grapes. St Galls and Burren did not turn into bad teams overnite but instead came up against a superior outfit and stating that 3 or 4 other teams from Armagh would beat these other county champions is both rubbish and disrespectfull. Maybe someone will come on here and state the obvious. CROSS ARE ACTUALLY A GREAT TEAM!!!!!!!!!!


Yes they are but they got harder games against Cullyhanna and Dromintee than against St.Galls and Burren!

Sure they were only going at about half pace, it's a long season and they had to guage their fitness training for the end of November again ;)
what a load of shit,typical rangers p***k,cross knew they were in a battle against us and dromintee and only they ref made a **** of himself and wrongly sent robbie of they would have been beaten,but fair play they can only beat whats in front of them but imo they have exeded expectation this year,brutal standard in ulster club footbal at the minute..

How unlucky, only for that silly Ref yous would be preparing for an Ulster final ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on November 19, 2010, 08:40:09 AM
Quote from: crossfire on November 18, 2010, 09:02:47 PM
Quote from: 1life 1club on November 17, 2010, 11:10:05 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 16, 2010, 10:03:13 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 15, 2010, 11:50:44 PM
Quote from: crossdoesitbest on November 15, 2010, 08:23:17 PM
Everybody trying to find fault with the opposition as to the only reason Cross are in another Ulster final stinks of jealousy and sour grapes. St Galls and Burren did not turn into bad teams overnite but instead came up against a superior outfit and stating that 3 or 4 other teams from Armagh would beat these other county champions is both rubbish and disrespectfull. Maybe someone will come on here and state the obvious. CROSS ARE ACTUALLY A GREAT TEAM!!!!!!!!!!


Yes they are but they got harder games against Cullyhanna and Dromintee than against St.Galls and Burren!

Sure they were only going at about half pace, it's a long season and they had to guage their fitness training for the end of November again ;)
what a load of shit,typical rangers p***k,cross knew they were in a battle against us and dromintee and only they ref made a **** of himself and wrongly sent robbie of they would have been beaten,but fair play they can only beat whats in front of them but imo they have exeded expectation this year,brutal standard in ulster club footbal at the minute..

How unlucky, only for that silly Ref yous would be preparing for an Ulster final ;D
you know it..mouth
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on November 19, 2010, 11:22:44 AM
Quote from: torres on November 18, 2010, 07:22:35 PM
10 man developement squad  ??? wtf will they come up with next   :-\

I think its a good idea, there's 10 lads who might otherwise only be training with their club or at this time of the year doing nothing that are now training with Mike McGurn.  So if the time comes that they are called up to the full squad they wont have to play catch up in the strength and fitness department.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 19, 2010, 02:48:48 PM
Quote from: gander on November 19, 2010, 11:22:44 AM
Quote from: torres on November 18, 2010, 07:22:35 PM
10 man developement squad  ??? wtf will they come up with next   :-\

I think its a good idea, there's 10 lads who might otherwise only be training with their club or at this time of the year doing nothing that are now training with Mike McGurn.  So if the time comes that they are called up to the full squad they wont have to play catch up in the strength and fitness department.
if the clubs training is right it should be enough. would u want to be used as a 10 man reserve group bad enough being 21-30 when u rarely get a game. cant understand mc kennas inclusion in the 30 very overrated at the moment and hasnt been very good in a lot of club games including b. surely better players in clubs in the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on November 19, 2010, 02:54:42 PM

Heard Aaron Cunningham is on the county squad?

bloody hell, he's not within an ass's roar of county standard
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on November 19, 2010, 05:51:53 PM
Quote from: gander on November 19, 2010, 11:22:44 AM
Quote from: torres on November 18, 2010, 07:22:35 PM
10 man developement squad  ??? wtf will they come up with next   :-\

I think its a good idea, there's 10 lads who might otherwise only be training with their club or at this time of the year doing nothing that are now training with Mike McGurn.  So if the time comes that they are called up to the full squad they wont have to play catch up in the strength and fitness department.
it might be  :-\ but why 10 ? why not at least 20 and then keep the 10 who fare best and could then be called up to the full squad ?  as a few posters stated not all in this 10 are worthy of inclusion , is collective training not of bounds in nov/dec .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on November 19, 2010, 07:11:22 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on November 18, 2010, 05:48:29 PM
Hes lucky making it onto the Cross squad!
Not a Cross fan then? I have been impressed with some of his displays, maybe a bit inconsistent but as good as anything I've seen from Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 20, 2010, 11:13:46 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 19, 2010, 02:48:48 PM
Quote from: gander on November 19, 2010, 11:22:44 AM
Quote from: torres on November 18, 2010, 07:22:35 PM
10 man developement squad  ??? wtf will they come up with next   :-\

I think its a good idea, there's 10 lads who might otherwise only be training with their club or at this time of the year doing nothing that are now training with Mike McGurn.  So if the time comes that they are called up to the full squad they wont have to play catch up in the strength and fitness department.
if the clubs training is right it should be enough. would u want to be used as a 10 man reserve group bad enough being 21-30 when u rarely get a game. cant understand mc kennas inclusion in the 30 very overrated at the moment and hasnt been very good in a lot of club games including b. surely better players in clubs in the county.
I'd be suprised if he's not Harps POTY.  Had a great year, but then again I've only been at 95% of games, someone who saw him play in a B game or 2 and 1 championship match is surely better placed to make such a call. ::)  Knob.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Uladh on November 20, 2010, 11:43:39 AM
Surely young McKenna wasn't playing b football this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 20, 2010, 12:14:14 PM
Played B champ (because he was eligible to) and a couple of B league games  at the end of the season when we'd a chance of winning B league.  Wasn't named in first 15 on purpose AFAIK.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on November 20, 2010, 01:55:10 PM
Quote from: Dreams on November 20, 2010, 12:19:33 PM
Athletic Grounds near finished I hear on the grapevine. Anybody out there any photos of the new development?

Nipped around this morning and took a few photos - can't get access to the ground, so the photos are obviously from outside. Although the roof has only started going up, it still looks quite impressive!!

(http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p290/RufusTFirefly1/001-2.jpg)

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Title: Re: Your Club Review
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 20, 2010, 04:17:49 PM
Club Name:     
Clan na Gael

League Division Status:
8th in Division 1 Football

Championship Run:   
Beaten comprehensively in first round by Cullyhanna.

2010 Review:
Not good enough. Showed occasional glimpses of what we're capable of but by and large a year to forget.

Hopes for 2011:
Probably get laughed at, but win the SFC.


Title: Re: Your Club Review
Post by: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2010, 05:12:44 PM
Armagh Cúchulainns, this would be better served on the other thread!

Club Name:     
Naomh Gall, Antrim

League Division Status:
2 in Division 1 Football
5 in Division 2 Hurling

Championship Run:    
Champions of the Football
Beaten by the Antrim Hurling Champions in the first round.

2010 Review:

Football, won the championship, weren't really pushed went into the Ulster series as Champions but got put on our ass by the Ulster Champions this year ;).

Hurling, after a disastrous first ten minutes against Loughgiel we hurled rightly and due to injuries and boys states side we put in a credible effort. maybe drop do to Intermediate as thats about our standard. nearly relegated in Division two which would have been bad for our hurling promotion. But managed to win 4 out of our last five.

Hopes for 2011:

Football, win the senior football championship and improve on the Cross defeat

Hurling, Win intermediate championship, push for promotion to div 1

Juveniles, we haven't won too many underage titles in a while so we'd need to get our finger out.

Look after the ones coming through the ranks and ensure we keep them.

Oh last but not least, the ladies won the intermediate Antrim and Ulster Championship so they inter the senior Competition next year

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on November 20, 2010, 06:44:23 PM
Thanks Rufus. Hopefully there will be some good Armagh performances there in 2010 and maybe even a few double header championship games.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossdoesitbest on November 20, 2010, 10:22:47 PM
Thanks for the pics! Good to see something happening there even though we're only slowly catching up with some other counties!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 21, 2010, 05:28:30 PM
Anyone at the town versus country game in lurgan today? How did it go?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on November 21, 2010, 06:54:53 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on November 21, 2010, 05:28:30 PM
Anyone at the town versus country game in lurgan today? How did it go?

country won by a few points i think.  think stefan campbell did himself no harm gave magee the runaround score 1-2.  mark beattie got man of the match i heard, somewhat dubious though.  wasnt as it just going by a source :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Don Johnson on November 21, 2010, 07:38:33 PM
As long as all the boys had a good time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 21, 2010, 09:26:00 PM
Good enough Charlie cheers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 22, 2010, 10:17:58 AM
The first half was terrible and was 0-05 a piece, the 2nd half was a bit better with a few goals and a bit more open but i have to say there was a few lads out there yesterday that were way out of their depth. Eugene Creaney who runs this for charity has his heart in the right place but he'd need to select the team members a bit better as some positions were thread bare and top heavy in others...but the winners on the day is the charity...
Title: Re: Your Club Review
Post by: Applesisapples on November 23, 2010, 10:33:34 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 20, 2010, 05:12:44 PM
Armagh Cúchulainns, this would be better served on the other thread!

Club Name:     
Naomh Gall, Antrim

League Division Status:
2 in Division 1 Football
5 in Division 2 Hurling

Championship Run:    
Champions of the Football
Beaten by the Antrim Hurling Champions in the first round.

2010 Review:

Football, won the championship, weren't really pushed went into the Ulster series as Champions but got put on our ass by the Ulster Champions this year ;).

Hurling, after a disastrous first ten minutes against Loughgiel we hurled rightly and due to injuries and boys states side we put in a credible effort. maybe drop do to Intermediate as thats about our standard. nearly relegated in Division two which would have been bad for our hurling promotion. But managed to win 4 out of our last five.

Hopes for 2011:

Football, win the senior football championship and improve on the Cross defeat

Hurling, Win intermediate championship, push for promotion to div 1

Juveniles, we haven't won too many underage titles in a while so we'd need to get our finger out.

Look after the ones coming through the ranks and ensure we keep them.

Oh last but not least, the ladies won the intermediate Antrim and Ulster Championship so they inter the senior Competition next year
One title you won't win is the Intermediate Hurling, as Ulster Champions last Year I think you have to play Senior again next year, going by Keady's situation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: drgeorge on November 23, 2010, 10:13:29 PM
Nice xmas present i came across on ebay sam for sale lol http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190471993698#ht_500wt_1156
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 23, 2010, 10:45:49 PM
Quote from: drgeorge on November 23, 2010, 10:13:29 PM
Nice xmas present i came across on ebay sam for sale lol http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190471993698#ht_500wt_1156

Would your family not get a bit annoyed if you hand them the produce you sell for a Christmas present.

Good luck with the venture and I wouldn't begrudge anybody out there trying to make a go of their own business, particularly in these financially straightened times but try to be a bit more up-front about your motivations before posting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: get up there on November 25, 2010, 08:26:19 PM
anybody going to the fight night in hillgrove monaghan,... i hear a lot of the fights are called off.. is the reason it being in monaghan because they see the gards better fit to deal with the riots afterwards ;D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Larry Duff on November 26, 2010, 12:26:51 PM
Quote from: get up there on November 25, 2010, 08:26:19 PM
anybody going to the fight night in hillgrove monaghan,... i hear a lot of the fights are called off.. is the reason it being in monaghan because they see the gards better fit to deal with the riots afterwards ;D :D
How much are the tickets for this? A friend has got a couple of tickets for me but I don't think I'll be able to make it and don't want them to be out of pocket.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 26, 2010, 03:52:16 PM
£25 each...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on November 27, 2010, 03:20:52 PM
Cross game is off tomorrow because off the weather.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 30, 2010, 12:33:05 PM
What crowd was at the boxing last weekend? i doubt there would have been as big a crown there as there was at the Armagh City hotel last year!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on November 30, 2010, 02:43:35 PM
Quote from: illdecide on November 30, 2010, 12:33:05 PM
What crowd was at the boxing last weekend? i doubt there would have been as big a crown there as there was at the Armagh City hotel last year!!!
500 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 30, 2010, 03:54:18 PM
Compared to over 1000 last year...then again the quality of the fighters wasn't the same as last years ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on November 30, 2010, 06:31:41 PM
500 is crap! There was around 1200 at the Peters one. But then Lurgan is a fighting town....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: get up there on November 30, 2010, 08:07:37 PM
 :D yeah after a few bottles of buckfast
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on December 01, 2010, 10:20:14 AM
Correct  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on December 02, 2010, 09:41:12 AM
Work seems to have halted on the Athletic Grounds although they could be hard at it inside the ceannarus.  They were going great guns there last week and nearly had the roof on the stand, hope this doesn't push the opening back too far.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on December 02, 2010, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on December 02, 2010, 09:41:12 AM
Work seems to have halted on the Athletic Grounds although they could be hard at it inside the ceannarus.  They were going great guns there last week and nearly had the roof on the stand, hope this doesn't push the opening back too far.
The big crane was back at it today although I hear they are 5 weeks behind schedule. The McKenna Cup matches that were listed for it will not be played there but they are still confident of having it ready for the Dubs in February.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on December 06, 2010, 09:21:29 AM
Anyone shed any light has to why the GAA hierarchy looked into the suspensions or no suspensions in the Cross Cullyhanna game.  See Paddy Og on the rant in the Irish News.  Didnt know there was that much controversy.

I also see there is talks of the dreaded playoffs coming back next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 06, 2010, 09:33:10 AM
Quote from: Joxer on December 06, 2010, 09:21:29 AM
Anyone shed any light has to why the GAA hierarchy looked into the suspensions or no suspensions in the Cross Cullyhanna game.  See Paddy Og on the rant in the Irish News.  Didnt know there was that much controversy.

I also see there is talks of the dreaded playoffs coming back next year.

What does he say?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 06, 2010, 09:47:54 AM
Quote from: Joxer on December 06, 2010, 09:21:29 AM
Anyone shed any light has to why the GAA hierarchy looked into the suspensions or no suspensions in the Cross Cullyhanna game.  See Paddy Og on the rant in the Irish News.  Didnt know there was that much controversy.

I also see there is talks of the dreaded playoffs coming back next year.

What was the problem with the play-offs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on December 06, 2010, 11:26:04 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 06, 2010, 09:33:10 AM
Quote from: Joxer on December 06, 2010, 09:21:29 AM
Anyone shed any light has to why the GAA hierarchy looked into the suspensions or no suspensions in the Cross Cullyhanna game.  See Paddy Og on the rant in the Irish News.  Didnt know there was that much controversy.

I also see there is talks of the dreaded playoffs coming back next year.

What does he say?

From Hoganstand :

Armagh secretary Patrick Og Nugent believes his county's disciplinary system has been undermined by the CCCC's decision to investigate the circumstances surrounding the suspensions arising from last September's controversial drawn county SFC semi-final between Crossmaglen and Cullyhanna.



Two of the Orchard County's brightest prospects - Jamie Clarke and Robbie Tasker - were issued with red cards during the ill-tempered clash between the south Armagh rivals which ended in a 1-14 to 2-11 draw. But while Cullyhanna star Tasker's red card was overturned - enabling him to play in the replay - Clarke had to serve an eight-week suspension (it was doubled from four weeks because he had been sent off in an under 21 game earlier in the year) that ruled him out of the replay, the county final and the Ulster quarter-final and semi-final.

Writing in his annual report, a disgruntled Nugent said: 'I do not question the CCCC's authority to make such a request, but what I do take exception to is the fact that no reason was given for this application being made.

"Firstly, the referee on the day took the actions he deemed necessary. The CCC on receipt of his report then recommended the suspensions as per the official guide. The players involved then sought a hearing, which they are entitled to.

"The Hearings Committee, on listening to the players and independent witnesses, then issued the suspensions they deemed necessary. All of this was proper procedure and correctly followed.

"Unfortunately, the whole issue became tainted when rumours started and various versions spread, the outcome of which led to unwarranted assumptions and allegations against the referee and the Hearings Committee.

"This is both unfortunate and unwarranted and must cease immediately. All the members and officers of the Hearings Committee gave of their time voluntarily and have at all times attempted to accommodate clubs seeking hearings, often at very short notice.

"For them to be ridiculed in this way is totally unjustifiable."
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 06, 2010, 01:45:18 PM
Make the thing more transparent then!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stalwart on December 06, 2010, 01:49:44 PM
will tullysaran stay up in division 2 ? :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on December 06, 2010, 03:23:57 PM
Nugent is a knob..................he did the same thing last year in his report, re-digging up the Grimley controversy when everybody else had put it to bed. That's some load of waffle he's come up with again this year...........mountain out of a molehill job.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 06, 2010, 07:43:00 PM
The convention isn't even on to next Sunday is that right?? and that's about the third story from his Secretary's report to make the paper. ??? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on December 06, 2010, 08:25:08 PM
Looking at the report, the big problem is the time of the suspensions. the player got 8 wks.,for the offence, which was correct,given it was a second offence this season. The time of the season it happened at was the problem, it was during a time of three important games for his club.The various committee`s did what they are in place to do, if they had done anything different it would have been wrong.The main problem is the system of suspensions,it should be games, not number of weeks.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on December 06, 2010, 09:50:32 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on December 06, 2010, 08:25:08 PM
Looking at the report, the big problem is the time of the suspensions. the player got 8 wks.,for the offence, which was correct,given it was a second offence this season. The time of the season it happened at was the problem, it was during a time of three important games for his club.The various committee`s did what they are in place to do, if they had done anything different it would have been wrong.The main problem is the system of suspensions,it should be games, not number of weeks.

Nobody from Cross complained about the suspension or ridiculed the referee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 06, 2010, 10:26:55 PM
Quote from: crossfire on December 06, 2010, 09:50:32 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on December 06, 2010, 08:25:08 PM
Looking at the report, the big problem is the time of the suspensions. the player got 8 wks.,for the offence, which was correct,given it was a second offence this season. The time of the season it happened at was the problem, it was during a time of three important games for his club.The various committee`s did what they are in place to do, if they had done anything different it would have been wrong.The main problem is the system of suspensions,it should be games, not number of weeks.

Nobody from Cross complained about the suspension or ridiculed the referee.

Your PRO publically complained in his notes in the Examiner.

I agree that Jamie Clarke missing the 4 most important matches of the season was undeniably harsh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on December 07, 2010, 07:01:55 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 06, 2010, 10:26:55 PM
Quote from: crossfire on December 06, 2010, 09:50:32 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on December 06, 2010, 08:25:08 PM
Looking at the report, the big problem is the time of the suspensions. the player got 8 wks.,for the offence, which was correct,given it was a second offence this season. The time of the season it happened at was the problem, it was during a time of three important games for his club.The various committee`s did what they are in place to do, if they had done anything different it would have been wrong.The main problem is the system of suspensions,it should be games, not number of weeks.

Nobody from Cross complained about the suspension or ridiculed the referee.

Your PRO publically complained in his notes in the Examiner.

I agree that Jamie Clarke missing the 4 most important matches of the season was undeniably harsh.

Making a statement in your own club notes which are primarily intended for your own club members could hardly be descibed as publicly complaining.

If you read the article in the Irish News you wil lbe under no illusion as to whom Mr Nugent is referring to and it isn't Jamie Clarke
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 07, 2010, 10:19:24 PM
Quote from: crossfire on December 07, 2010, 07:01:55 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 06, 2010, 10:26:55 PM
Quote from: crossfire on December 06, 2010, 09:50:32 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on December 06, 2010, 08:25:08 PM
Looking at the report, the big problem is the time of the suspensions. the player got 8 wks.,for the offence, which was correct,given it was a second offence this season. The time of the season it happened at was the problem, it was during a time of three important games for his club.The various committee`s did what they are in place to do, if they had done anything different it would have been wrong.The main problem is the system of suspensions,it should be games, not number of weeks.

Nobody from Cross complained about the suspension or ridiculed the referee.

Your PRO publically complained in his notes in the Examiner.

I agree that Jamie Clarke missing the 4 most important matches of the season was undeniably harsh.

Making a statement in your own club notes which are primarily intended for your own club members could hardly be descibed as publicly complaining.

If you read the article in the Irish News you wil lbe under no illusion as to whom Mr Nugent is referring to and it isn't Jamie Clarke

Somebody else mentioned Jamie Clarke. I agree that Paddy Óg was talking about the overturning of Robbie Tasker's suspension, a decision which your club PRO complained about in a newspaper.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on December 08, 2010, 01:30:08 PM

Cross notes are a bit cringeworthy every week. They gave their own senior team some doing through the club championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: shahrock02 on December 12, 2010, 03:36:31 PM
fair play to cross,super team and great club
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rootthemout on December 13, 2010, 12:03:41 AM
congrats to cross,another ulster title to add to their collection
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on December 13, 2010, 12:27:01 PM
From BBC NI:

Armagh are to sell the naming rights for their new 19,500-capacity stadium which is due to be opened in February.

The county's Athletic Grounds venue has been redeveloped and includes a new 5,600-seat stand and a covered terrace accommodating 2,500 spectators.

"We are offering a great opportunity for a brand to be associated with what will be one of the top sporting venues in Ireland," said official Paul Kelly.

Armagh's first match at the new venue will be against Dublin on 5 February.

Other features in the £4.5m scheme are dressing rooms, medical facilities, 36 turnstiles and improved access for disabled spectators.

Kelly, chairman of the My Armagh development body, added: "The stadium will be the home of major National League, Ulster and All-Ireland qualifiers matches for football and hurling.

"It will also host, through time, hundreds of club championship games at all levels for football, hurling and camogie."



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orchard 8195 on December 14, 2010, 11:27:25 AM
Quote from: shahrock02 on December 12, 2010, 03:36:31 PM
fair play to cross,super team and great club

Just new to this, watched a right bit of cross this yr and its clear to see that oisin is still a class act, not really able to win his own ball any more but as a finisher and free taker there is still none better in the county. still think that if alongside a ball winner in ff line (Ronan Clarke) to play off, could still do major damage at county level for another year anyway. This could free up jamie clarke to move to half forward thus having at least 1 scoring half 4ward. this could be an option for the last 20 of matches this yr and would take the pressure off stevey t have to score from play and frees (something i think he struggles with). What do people think? Is this a viable option or to far a step backwards? Or could Oisin even be persuaded to give it 1 last yr?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on December 14, 2010, 11:37:49 AM
Think Oisin has already said he definitely wont be back.  I think he could still do a job but unless he's going to be the difference between winning a championship or not there's no point in him coming back.  Its time to let the younger forwards prove themselves
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orchard 8195 on December 14, 2010, 12:19:59 PM
Quote from: gander on December 14, 2010, 11:37:49 AM
Think Oisin has already said he definitely wont be back.  I think he could still do a job but unless he's going to be the difference between winning a championship or not there's no point in him coming back.  Its time to let the younger forwards prove themselves
Personally think that armagh arent that far away. The way he is playing I think he could make the difference in winning another ulster title at least. Armagh have 4 major deficiencies. Half forward line, midfield, over relience on stevey in forward line and in my opinion anyway free taking. I think he could go some way in solving 3 of these. I know the man is getting on but just think he is playing some unbelievable stuff lately that warrants thinking about it anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossdoesitbest on December 14, 2010, 12:37:19 PM
Just heard, John McEntee and Leo Blessing are to be the new Culloville management team for next year! Best of luck to them both, except against Cross of course!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on December 14, 2010, 12:43:47 PM
Will McConville even be lining out for Cross next season? I thought he suggested that this was his last year, and with the way he's been emptying himself in every game he certainly looks like a man giving it one final push. He has his coaching as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on December 14, 2010, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: orchard 8195 on December 14, 2010, 12:19:59 PM
Quote from: gander on December 14, 2010, 11:37:49 AM
Think Oisin has already said he definitely wont be back.  I think he could still do a job but unless he's going to be the difference between winning a championship or not there's no point in him coming back.  Its time to let the younger forwards prove themselves
Personally think that armagh arent that far away. The way he is playing I think he could make the difference in winning another ulster title at least. Armagh have 4 major deficiencies. Half forward line, midfield, over relience on stevey in forward line and in my opinion anyway free taking. I think he could go some way in solving 3 of these. I know the man is getting on but just think he is playing some unbelievable stuff lately that warrants thinking about it anyway.
Great player that he is at club level, I don't think it would be fair to expect Oisin to come back into Armagh. Too much pressure would be on him. We have half forwards that can score, I think we just need to persevere.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossdoesitbest on December 15, 2010, 03:31:22 PM
Quote from: Joxer on December 13, 2010, 12:27:01 PM
From BBC NI:

Armagh are to sell the naming rights for their new 19,500-capacity stadium which is due to be opened in February.

The county's Athletic Grounds venue has been redeveloped and includes a new 5,600-seat stand and a covered terrace accommodating 2,500 spectators.

"We are offering a great opportunity for a brand to be associated with what will be one of the top sporting venues in Ireland," said official Paul Kelly.

Armagh's first match at the new venue will be against Dublin on 5 February.

Other features in the £4.5m scheme are dressing rooms, medical facilities, 36 turnstiles and improved access for disabled spectators.

Kelly, chairman of the My Armagh development body, added: "The stadium will be the home of major National League, Ulster and All-Ireland qualifiers matches for football and hurling.

"It will also host, through time, hundreds of club championship games at all levels for football, hurling and camogie."


A few suiters might include,

Club Orange

Applegreen

Orange

Magners
Title: Corrinshego Charity Game
Post by: camloughlad on December 15, 2010, 10:41:49 PM

On the 2nd January 2011 Corrinshego GFC will play St Pauls school in a charity match in aid of the Ryan Cinnamond Fund. The match will take place at St Pauls playing field with the throw in at 11am. There will be some "celebrities" playing and it promises to be a good mornings craic. There will be no admission charge but a voluntary donation can be made at the gate. Please come along and support this very worthy cause.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 15, 2010, 10:52:31 PM
Quote from: orchard 8195 on December 14, 2010, 12:19:59 PM
Quote from: gander on December 14, 2010, 11:37:49 AM
Think Oisin has already said he definitely wont be back.  I think he could still do a job but unless he's going to be the difference between winning a championship or not there's no point in him coming back.  Its time to let the younger forwards prove themselves
Personally think that armagh aren't that far away. The way he is playing I think he could make the difference in winning another ulster title at least. Armagh have 4 major deficiencies. Half forward line, midfield, over relience on stevey in forward line and in my opinion anyway free taking. I think he could go some way in solving 3 of these. I know the man is getting on but just think he is playing some  unbelievable stuff lately that warrants thinking about it

To say that a team is not too far away but cite 4 major deficiencies , two of which are crucial positions is a contradiction. There is no doubt there players to succeed are in the county but the selection process is the major issue. There are lads in the county That aren't given a crack at the whip. There has been manager after manager coming in and sticking with the status quo. Now the bulk of players from last year would be on the panel but we have natural scoring half forwards and decent midfielders. Therefore change the structures and bring in the players to strengthen the team. Enda Mc Nulty was allowed to occupy a place on last years panel. What purpose did this serve? If it was for experience then he should have been added to the management setup and not occupying the place of a lad at 21 years of age.  Armagh as a team have always under achieved even in the so called good old days. We have never had the diversity and in depth panels that the Tyrones and Kerrys have had in the last decade. We have witnessed errors over the years ie bringing Houllie on in extra time against Kerry when the man was done, taking MC Geeney off the field against Tyrone and handing them the pyshocological advantage to name a few. Forget about Mc Conville the man has done more than his bit and understands that he has to make way for the young lads like Clarke and co. We should structure the team better with these lads and over the next four or five years we will be competing again and see the v
benefits.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Kid on December 15, 2010, 11:12:29 PM
I agree with winsamsoon, the talent is there, look at the minor team of a few years ago who had no problem scoring. I'm looking forward to seeing young grugan and mc parland getting a chance this season, and with jamie clarke and stevie playing together, could be a promising season. does anyone know what the story is with ronan clarke? is he near a comeback yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on December 16, 2010, 12:15:16 AM

Play the best players in the best positions whatever their ages. this develop for the future and play the kids is bollox.
Title: Re: Corrinshego Charity Game
Post by: Joxer on December 16, 2010, 08:58:51 AM
For any of you who dont know what this is about,  I think this link works but it will fill you in.

http://radiotime.com/program/p_164650/The_Stephen_Nolan_Show.aspx

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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Don Johnson on December 16, 2010, 09:53:37 AM
Any word from the Clans meeting last night over the management?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on December 16, 2010, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on December 15, 2010, 10:52:31 PM
Quote from: orchard 8195 on December 14, 2010, 12:19:59 PM
Quote from: gander on December 14, 2010, 11:37:49 AM
Think Oisin has already said he definitely wont be back.  I think he could still do a job but unless he's going to be the difference between winning a championship or not there's no point in him coming back.  Its time to let the younger forwards prove themselves
Personally think that armagh aren't that far away. The way he is playing I think he could make the difference in winning another ulster title at least. Armagh have 4 major deficiencies. Half forward line, midfield, over relience on stevey in forward line and in my opinion anyway free taking. I think he could go some way in solving 3 of these. I know the man is getting on but just think he is playing some  unbelievable stuff lately that warrants thinking about it

To say that a team is not too far away but cite 4 major deficiencies , two of which are crucial positions is a contradiction. There is no doubt there players to succeed are in the county but the selection process is the major issue. There are lads in the county That aren't given a crack at the whip. There has been manager after manager coming in and sticking with the status quo. Now the bulk of players from last year would be on the panel but we have natural scoring half forwards and decent midfielders. Therefore change the structures and bring in the players to strengthen the team. Enda Mc Nulty was allowed to occupy a place on last years panel. What purpose did this serve? If it was for experience then he should have been added to the management setup and not occupying the place of a lad at 21 years of age.  Armagh as a team have always under achieved even in the so called good old days. We have never had the diversity and in depth panels that the Tyrones and Kerrys have had in the last decade. We have witnessed errors over the years ie bringing Houllie on in extra time against Kerry when the man was done, taking MC Geeney off the field against Tyrone and handing them the pyshocological advantage to name a few. Forget about Mc Conville the man has done more than his bit and understands that he has to make way for the young lads like Clarke and co. We should structure the team better with these lads and over the next four or five years we will be competing again and see the v
benefits.
Not this one again winsam, the last time you brought this up you wouldn't name names...........until you do it isn't a serious argument

Quote from: The Kid on December 15, 2010, 11:12:29 PM
I agree with winsamsoon, the talent is there, look at the minor team of a few years ago who had no problem scoring. I'm looking forward to seeing young grugan and mc parland getting a chance this season, and with jamie clarke and stevie playing together, could be a promising season. does anyone know what the story is with ronan clarke? is he near a comeback yet?
He's listed in the McKenna Cup panel and they're hoping to get him some game time before the league.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 16, 2010, 11:14:15 AM
Quote from: Don Johnson on December 16, 2010, 09:53:37 AM
Any word from the Clans meeting last night over the management?

Was there a meeting last night Don? I'll have to make a few enquires...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orchard 8195 on December 16, 2010, 11:18:10 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on December 15, 2010, 10:52:31 PM
Quote from: orchard 8195 on December 14, 2010, 12:19:59 PM
Quote from: gander on December 14, 2010, 11:37:49 AM
Think Oisin has already said he definitely wont be back.  I think he could still do a job but unless he's going to be the difference between winning a championship or not there's no point in him coming back.  Its time to let the younger forwards prove themselves
Personally think that armagh aren't that far away. The way he is playing I think he could make the difference in winning another ulster title at least. Armagh have 4 major deficiencies. Half forward line, midfield, over relience on stevey in forward line and in my opinion anyway free taking. I think he could go some way in solving 3 of these. I know the man is getting on but just think he is playing some  unbelievable stuff lately that warrants thinking about it

To say that a team is not too far away but cite 4 major deficiencies , two of which are crucial positions is a contradiction. There is no doubt there players to succeed are in the county but the selection process is the major issue. There are lads in the county That aren't given a crack at the whip. There has been manager after manager coming in and sticking with the status quo. Now the bulk of players from last year would be on the panel but we have natural scoring half forwards and decent midfielders. Therefore change the structures and bring in the players to strengthen the team. Enda Mc Nulty was allowed to occupy a place on last years panel. What purpose did this serve? If it was for experience then he should have been added to the management setup and not occupying the place of a lad at 21 years of age.  Armagh as a team have always under achieved even in the so called good old days. We have never had the diversity and in depth panels that the Tyrones and Kerrys have had in the last decade. We have witnessed errors over the years ie bringing Houllie on in extra time against Kerry when the man was done, taking MC Geeney off the field against Tyrone and handing them the pyshocological advantage to name a few. Forget about Mc Conville the man has done more than his bit and understands that he has to make way for the young lads like Clarke and co. We should structure the team better with these lads and over the next four or five years we will be competing again and see the v
benefits.

The point i was trying to make about not being to far away is look at last year. we beat down in the league final who were v close to winning the AI and could have beat dublin who were within a point of an AI final. This was despite these problems. If these were rectified what could we acheive? However i agree totally with your other statements regarding players not getting a fair crack of the whip. There are players added to the mckenna panel  and have been there before and have simply not cut it. Also their form in the club championship did not warrant their inclusion. (Not talking about o'rourke who had a great club season.) Totally agree with u about enda where it was pointless having him on board last year however he is finished the way oisin looks at the min he is far from finished and is a shoo-in for ulster club player of year. I know it is very unlikely that it will happen though was just trying to point out that the man could still be the answer to a lot of Armaghs problems regardless of age and was trying to see what other thought on the matter. Think Tasker and Carragher should have been included on panel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on December 16, 2010, 12:36:26 PM
Who are these players who are not getting a fair crack of the whip? Division 1 in the league is not somewhere that we can do widespread experimentation. We need to find 2/3 more forwards and there have been a number of lads added to the panel with that in mind. Robbie Tasker is on an extended panel and if he shows well with this I'm sure he'll get on the senior squad, he has the talent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 16, 2010, 01:54:12 PM
Armagh McKenna Cup Panel - 2011

1. Conor Clarke (Pearse Og)
2. Ronan Clarke (Pearse Og)
3. Kevin Dyas (Dromintee)
4. Anto Duffy (Pearse Og)
5. Paul Duffy (Pearse Og)
6. Joe Feeney (Madden)
7. Rory Grugan (Ballymacnab)
8. Paul Hearty (Crossmaglen)
9. Ryan Henderson (Clann Eireann)
10. James Lavery (Maghery)
11. Steven McDonnell (Killeavy)
12. Philip McEvoy (Dromintee)
13. Ciaran McKeever (St Patrick's)
14. Declan McKenna (Armagh Harps)
15. Gavin McParland (Ballymacnab)
16. Malachy Mackin (St Patrick's)
17. Andy Mallon (Pearse Og)
18. Brian Mallon (Tir na nÓg)
19. Vincent Martin (Dromintee)
20. Finnian Moriarty (Wolfe Tone)
21. Gareth O'Neill (Dromintee)
22. Michael O'Rourke (Dromintee)
22. Gareth Swift (Armagh Harps)
24. Kieran Toner (Granemore)
25. Charlie Vernon (Armagh Harps)
26. Colm Watters (Culloville)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on December 16, 2010, 02:14:28 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on December 16, 2010, 01:54:12 PM
Armagh McKenna Cup Panel - 2011

1. Conor Clarke (Pearse Og)
2. Ronan Clarke (Pearse Og)
3. Kevin Dyas (Dromintee)
4. Anto Duffy (Pearse Og)
5. Paul Duffy (Pearse Og)
6. Joe Feeney (Madden)
7. Rory Grugan (Ballymacnab)
8. Paul Hearty (Crossmaglen)
9. Ryan Henderson (Clann Eireann)
10. James Lavery (Maghery)
11. Steven McDonnell (Killeavy)
12. Philip McEvoy (Dromintee)
13. Ciaran McKeever (St Patrick's)
14. Declan McKenna (Armagh Harps)
15. Gavin McParland (Ballymacnab)
16. Malachy Mackin (St Patrick's)
17. Andy Mallon (Pearse Og)
18. Brian Mallon (Tir na nÓg)
19. Vincent Martin (Dromintee)
20. Finnian Moriarty (Wolfe Tone)
21. Gareth O'Neill (Dromintee)
22. Michael O'Rourke (Dromintee)
22. Gareth Swift (Armagh Harps)
24. Kieran Toner (Granemore)
25. Charlie Vernon (Armagh Harps)
26. Colm Watters (Culloville)

Really only one natural FB in the panel. The are a couple of lads that can drop back, but its far from ideal to have to shoehorn players into positions they rarely look comfortable in. With such a paucity of options, its maybe no wonder Enda McNulty was retained for so long.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 16, 2010, 02:29:10 PM
Deccie McKenna might get a run in defence. Natural CHB but could do a job at FB, with Donaghy with UUJ he might get a go, but a big ask of a 19 yr old I suppose.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on December 16, 2010, 02:45:44 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on December 16, 2010, 02:29:10 PM
Deccie McKenna might get a run in defence. Natural CHB but could do a job at FB, with Donaghy with UUJ he might get a go, but a big ask of a 19 yr old I suppose.

Might be worth trying him in the corner? Would perfer he be tried there than have Moriarty or Martin drop back anyway. It would also be worth trying Toner in at FB again to see if he can replicate the couple of displays from last year back there. And that would free up a space in the middle for the likes of O'Neill or Martin or even Anto Duffy to get a run.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on December 16, 2010, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on December 16, 2010, 02:29:10 PM
Deccie McKenna might get a run in defence. Natural CHB but could do a job at FB, with Donaghy with UUJ he might get a go, but a big ask of a 19 yr old I suppose.

Can he mark Benny? Haven't really see him excel in that department to date
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on December 16, 2010, 03:14:07 PM
Probably a fair enough assessment tbh, a good reader of a game and played mostly for us in a holding/springboard to attack role.  He can mark ok, but this is a step up.  By the looks of that panel he'll get a chance to show us if he can at this level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 16, 2010, 03:15:04 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 16, 2010, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on December 16, 2010, 02:29:10 PM
Deccie McKenna might get a run in defence. Natural CHB but could do a job at FB, with Donaghy with UUJ he might get a go, but a big ask of a 19 yr old I suppose.

Can he mark Benny? Haven't really see him excel in that department to date

He seemed to pick up the opposition danger man at minor level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on December 16, 2010, 03:18:35 PM

Yip - Any time i've seen him lay for the harps though (not that often) he seems a loose defender and more of a ball player?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 16, 2010, 03:23:13 PM
Quote from: mackers on December 16, 2010, 12:36:26 PM
Who are these players who are not getting a fair crack of the whip?
Ryan McQuillan Wolfe Tones sticks out for me. How he hasn't got a call up for at least McKenna is baffling considering some of the players who have.

Edit - Who have the in past, not directing that at any one on the 2011 McK Cup panel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Kid on December 16, 2010, 04:00:49 PM
Does anyone know who the ten are in the senior development squad? I know mc verry and tasker are in it, just wondering who else is in it? From what I've seen of him, Stephen Harold from Cruppen looks a good prospect, one of the few cruppen players who played well against cross in the c'ship. Also, good to hear ronan clarke is on the mend, no longer have to rely solely on stevie
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 16, 2010, 04:21:59 PM
I think Stefan Campbell from the clans is also in it. My own personal view on that development panel is that it is a load of balls and a cop out. If a manager can't select his team ie a panel of 30 then he shouldn't be there . It isn't fair to ask lads to knock their pan in training and at the end of it they may not even get a jersey on the day as they are outside the the 24. I have seen it done and it is horrible on lads that have done all the same training and not to be even given a skip to kit out. Tell them there and then and be done with it. This is not the same as closing the door and the panel should be open all year round.

Mackers you seem to be facinated with naming people and a few lads have taken the bate and jumped at your command. when you start naming names the crux of the debate then become lost as people then start voicing their opinions on players. This is not what i am saying I on the other hand am speaking in general terms. I don't get the chance to watch all club games every week but i have seen and heard reports of players in Armagh putting in sublime performances for their clubs. There is no doubt there are worthy players in the county. People say we have no mid fielders then you go out and find two . You don't keep calling back the same pair year after year in the hope they will someday put in a god performance. If we don't have scoring half forwards then you go out to the club games and find them. It ain't rocket science and these players are within the county.

There is also the other option if you don't like the topic of debate then don't comment  :-X
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on December 16, 2010, 05:12:36 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on December 16, 2010, 04:21:59 PM
There is also the other option if you don't like the topic of debate then don't comment  :-X
I think it's reasonable to ask a fella who keeps on saying that there are players in the county who aren't being given a fair crack of the whip to name them. If you don't give him that chance that he's gonna sound like he's talking crap. :)

You seem happy to have a pop while saying yourself that you don't see these players play but you "have heard reports of players putting in sublime performances for their clubs".

Some fringe players are being given a chance in an extended squad to impress the county management but you say it's a load of balls.

I think you just like a good moan.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 16, 2010, 07:08:53 PM
Quote from: The Kid on December 16, 2010, 04:00:49 PM
Does anyone know who the ten are in the senior development squad? I know mc verry and tasker are in it, just wondering who else is in it? From what I've seen of him, Stephen Harold from Cruppen looks a good prospect, one of the few cruppen players who played well against cross in the c'ship. Also, good to hear ronan clarke is on the mend, no longer have to rely solely on stevie
james lavery tones also
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 16, 2010, 08:24:26 PM
Well if i am not seeing these players week in week out how else am i supposed to know about there consistency if i don't hear from people at the games? I see my own club week in week out and to be honest they have had a low key year. A brutal championship campaign and a struggling league one. But there are players in our team with potential ie Stefan Campbell and certain other very young lads that if given the proper coaching could be potential decent players. I am sure the same can be said for the majority of clubs in Armagh certainly the first division. Naming names has nothing to do with the point i am making so i still can't understand your infatuation with this point. I am saying that there are better players in the county that have potential and are potentially better than the status quo that is returned each year on merit. These players (a group) are not being given a fair crack of the whip. I don't see how you cannot grasp this.

Also and i stand to be corrected but this extended squad is not giving these lads a chance as it is simply putting them from 30-40 in the pecking order. So the management are saying you are not good enough to be in the actual squad but you can come into a squad within a squad. I would find it difficult to get motivated for such a scenario and i would say i am not the only one.

For the past decade Armagh have chosen mainly big men year in year out. Now some of these lads had little brain and restricted football ability. In comparison to tyrone the skill levels and football ability throughout most of the pitch was evident. Had we no smaller footballing players in the county. Had we no natural scoring forwards that could have been used? These are all hypothetical questions that don't need any names
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on December 17, 2010, 09:18:26 AM
Has Stefan Forker been jettisoned completely, or is he with a university team?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on December 17, 2010, 10:11:25 AM
What ever happened to that lad Gaughran that was suggested as potential star a few years ago ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 17, 2010, 10:19:12 AM
Quote from: maddog on December 17, 2010, 10:11:25 AM
What ever happened to that lad Gaughran that was suggested as potential star a few years ago ?

The dromintee lad? aye he looked the business a few years ago but went backwards...although he may have had an injury?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on December 17, 2010, 10:47:46 AM
Winsam, I agree with you on some points (we've definitely been concentrating on beef over brawn) but I just haven't seen any club players that will solve our glaring problem.
I don't think we are far away from being contenders on the big stage but to do that we need an additional 2/3 forwards and inject some badly needed pace into the team. IF Ronan Clarke is fully fit this year (it's a big if) then we have a FF line to beat the band with as J Clarke,R Clarke and S McDonnell are a serious threat to any defence. We need scoring HFs. I see big potential in Nippy Swift and would have him in there so IMO we're looking for two forwards.  Young Grugan is going to be a hell of a player but it's unfair to put pressure on him to perform this year but I'd certainly have a look at him.  Stefan Forker is definitely worth keeping in the panel as he is accurate although inconsistent. If he's throwing the head then he may not be kept on the panel.
You've mentioned Stefan Campbell, I've only seen him twice and he didn't go well in either game but I've heard good reports and maybe he should be given a chance.
A lad that I was impressed with a couple of times I saw him last year was Paul Forker but I hear he has soccer as a distraction. Robbie Tasker is potentially the best forward we have in Armagh and hopefully he keeps the head down and works hard at his game. I'd say if he were to stay committed to this elite/development training squad (or whatever it's called) and the u21s he may well be drafted in to the senior set up later in the year. Eugene McVerry is another one to be looked at.
In the management's defence, I'd say they'll want to make a big effort to stay in Division 1 and as such, experimentation will be minimal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 17, 2010, 11:11:38 AM
My 6 forwards would be...

10. Swift
11. B Mallon or S McDonnell
12. J Clarke
13. R Henderson
14. R Clarke
15. McDonnell


If McDonnell played at 11 then tasker or McVerry could possibly line out at 15 or whatever other young lad showing in training. I'm pretty sure I've left a player out here somewhere (the snow's distracting me this morning...lol)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Kid on December 17, 2010, 11:45:21 AM
I think you've near got it right Illdecide, although my only objection would be jamie clarke playing half forward as the duties of a half forward nowadays are as much about defending as they are attacking and I think he is deadly closer to goal. I would have Brian Mallon at wing half, in a danny hughes type role, winning breaking ball and still getting up the field to take a few scores. I would have Nippy swift centre half as he is a physically imposing player who looks comfortable on the ball. that leaves me with the other wing half forward, although he's very light at the moment I would play Rory Grugan as he has more than enough skill to make up for this. I think the half back line is almost harder to call because you have dyas, moriarty, mc keever and aaron kernan all competing for 3places
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 17, 2010, 12:57:44 PM
In the defense Mc Keever gets my vote at chb. He will be there to snuff out the dangers and hold the middle. Ak on one wing and acting as the link up man between backs and forwards and probably Dyas on the other wing. Think Moriarty would be better coming on as a sub as he will always run himself into the ground. Duffy is another option at half back, again powerful going forward.  just don't feel he is as good on the ball as the others and possession is key.

FF line would be Tasker, R Clarke, Mc Donnell

Hf line                J.Clarke,?,?  Think we need a player in here who can win the dirty ball and double up in defense if Kernan or Dyas was to move forward. Also have the diversity to be able to move into the defense and vice versa.               
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orchard 8195 on December 17, 2010, 02:10:59 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on December 17, 2010, 12:57:44 PM
In the defense Mc Keever gets my vote at chb. He will be there to snuff out the dangers and hold the middle. Ak on one wing and acting as the link up man between backs and forwards and probably Dyas on the other wing. Think Moriarty would be better coming on as a sub as he will always run himself into the ground. Duffy is another option at half back, again powerful going forward.  just don't feel he is as good on the ball as the others and possession is key.

FF line would be Tasker, R Clarke, Mc Donnell

Hf line                J.Clarke,?,?  Think we need a player in here who can win the dirty ball and double up in defense if Kernan or Dyas was to move forward. Also have the diversity to be able to move into the defense and vice versa.               
do u mean u wouldnt have jamie clarke on then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on December 17, 2010, 02:35:33 PM
I'd agree that J Clarke should be played close to goal.  Henderson is a player I like although, like Forker, he's inconsistent.
On the HB line I don't think that we can afford to have BOTH P Duffy and AK either side of C McK, both are too attack minded and too loose in their defensive duties.  We're going to have to choose between the two, and it is far from a foregone conclusion as, for me, Paul Duffy, was in with a big shout of being Armagh's best player this year. Brian Mallon is skating on thin ice IMO but we need a workhorse and breakball winner and he does bring that to the team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on December 17, 2010, 03:12:57 PM
What about MOR Jr for the dirty ball winning role? He can take a score and has bit bit of vision and creativity about him.  Dromintee posters would be better place to say whether he is a good breaking ball winner. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 17, 2010, 03:20:38 PM
It's clear to see that we're far from the finished article, we have far too many crucial positions where no-one can agree on personal for there and that tells you something. Happy enough with Hearty and 2 out of the 3 full back positions (A Mallon and Donaghy), the half back line I'd be happy with McKeever at CHB as for the other two wing back positions...A Kernan, P Duffy, K Dyas and Finn Mo will have to fight it out.

I'm happy enough with Toner but we need an athletic midfielder to go with him and Lavery does not fit that bill, Toner has been slaughtered this last two years trying to do the work of two...dunno who can play here, is there any new kids coming thru at this position?

Half forward line is a mess also and it's between S Kernan, Nippy Swift, B Mallon, J Clarke, and Vernon for me. In what order i haven't a clue. The full forward line for me would be Henderson, R Clarke and McDonnell. Some people questioned if J Clarke could play in the HF line and i say to that look at Crossmaglen, he drifts all over the place and imagine the damage he'd do winning the ball in the HF line and playing a 1-2 with the FF line or running onto a ball from the FF line. I have seen him pick up ball for Cross in their HB line regular so i def think he could play HF no bother...

Neck on the line here...

Hearty
A Mallon
B Donaghy
Morgan (think thats the lad's name plays for Cross) or McKeown
A Kernan
C McKeever
Finn Mo
K Toner
C Vernon (not happy with this but can't think of anyone else)
G Swift
B Mallon (play maker)
J Clarke
S McDonnell
R Clarke
R Henderson

TBH there is a few positions I'm not happy about...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 17, 2010, 03:27:46 PM
Quote from: orchard 8195 on December 17, 2010, 02:10:59 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on December 17, 2010, 12:57:44 PM
In the defense Mc Keever gets my vote at chb. He will be there to snuff out the dangers and hold the middle. Ak on one wing and acting as the link up man between backs and forwards and probably Dyas on the other wing. Think Moriarty would be better coming on as a sub as he will always run himself into the ground. Duffy is another option at half back, again powerful going forward.  just don't feel he is as good on the ball as the others and possession is key.

FF line would be Tasker, R Clarke, Mc Donnell

Hf line                J.Clarke,?,?  Think we need a player in here who can win the dirty ball and double up in defense if Kernan or Dyas was to move forward. Also have the diversity to be able to move into the defense and vice versa.               
do u mean u wouldnt have jamie clarke on then?

No i would have clarke and two others but wasn't sure who. I think Brian Mallon has a great workrate but he just doesn't have enough creativity and Micheal O Rourke for me is lacking pace meaning any good man marking could sniff him out. The lad can take a score but i have yet to see him perform in big games (i must confess i have only really seen him against Cross and Harps so other lads are probably in better positions to comment on him) IMO we need a ball winner, a natural scorer and a playmaker in Hf. That combination for me would work best and the more players we have with two or three of these attributes then even better
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on December 17, 2010, 04:16:31 PM
My stab at a team would be:
Hearty
A Mallon
B Donaghy
J Morgan (has the makings of an excellent back but need to watch the discipline)
P Duffy (or AK depending who's showing the best form in late May)
C McKeever
Finn Mo
Kieran Toner
Charlie Vernon (hopefully comes out of his dip in form)
Nippy
B Mallon
R Grugan
S McDonnell
R Clarke
J Clarke

I'm hoping that the league campaign throws up a Eugene McVerry/Gavin McParland/Ryan Henderson playing well as they will all get their chance with J Clarke out to the end of Feb at least with Cross in the AI Club. Kevin Dyas fully fit could bolster the HF line too. C McKeever should be used as a more traditional CHB rather than a sweeper covering everybody's asses in the full back line.
As illdecide says there are too many iffy positions to be getting ahead of ourselves but a successful league would put a few of those doubts to bed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 17, 2010, 04:28:42 PM
One things for sure whatever team they have out us three glipes will be there watching  :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Kid on December 17, 2010, 04:42:54 PM
Mackers I agree with 14 out of 15 of your team lol a fully fit Kevin Dyas has the potential to be one of the best players in the country so in that regard I would have him in for Finian Moriarty, although he did an excellent man marking job on Martin Clarke in the league final this year. Paul Duffy had an excellent year this year so he will be there or there abouts as well. Having purchased a season ticket this year I am looking forward to watching Div 1 football again in the new Athletic grounds (if that is still the name of the ground by Feb lol) and I am quite opttimistic for a successful year. On another note, am I the only one shocked and confused at the time of Armagh's c'ship match with down, sat may 28th 7pm? seems more like a time for a qualifier
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 17, 2010, 05:08:51 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on December 17, 2010, 04:28:42 PM
One things for sure whatever team they have out us three glipes will be there watching  :D :D

:D :D :D Correct
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on December 17, 2010, 06:08:56 PM
I'll go for
Hearty
Mallon Donaghy Morgan
AK (frees get nod) McKeever Finn Mo.
Toner Lavery (not let us down yet)
Grugan Vernon Nippy
McDonnell Clarke Clarke

I'd say I am happy with about 10 or 11. I am hoping someone sticks his head up in the league for a couple of key positions. Positional switches could also see one of the Clarkes in the half forward line.Hope not expecting too much from the young fellas.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on December 17, 2010, 11:42:54 PM
after last season paul duffy must be a cert? the only armagh player who stood up to be counted against monaghan when more experienced players hid away and undoubtedly the best player in the county last year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on December 18, 2010, 10:32:20 AM
Quote from: pearseog on December 17, 2010, 11:42:54 PM
after last season paul duffy must be a cert? the only armagh player who stood up to be counted against monaghan when more experienced players hid away and undoubtedly the best player in the county last year

Well said Paul... ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on December 18, 2010, 03:58:22 PM
Agree with pearseog about Paul Duffy. Hopefully he gets his chance and improves on last year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on December 18, 2010, 04:51:17 PM
The only problem with Paul Duffy is finding a place for him. He is not a tight enough marker in my opinion for the corner and that only leaves wing half back. I would worry about both he and AK on the wings and don't believe there is much between them when they play wing back. AK is a reliable free taker, however, and that is why I would give him the nod - but only just. My only regret is that we do not yet have as big a problem in midfield or half forward!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on December 18, 2010, 05:54:41 PM

You all seem to be skirting around he issue that a lot of people do. ak isn't good enough to start on a team with potential half backs the calibre of mckeever, duffy, donaghy, moriarty and dyas.

Carrying a defender for frees is not on at this level. either he earns a place in the forwards or he sits on the bench.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Kid on December 18, 2010, 08:15:52 PM
But Aaron Kernan is the best ball carrier in the back line and probably the best passer of the ball so in my opinion he has to start. I agree with what you are saying about Duffy aswell as he was one of our best players last year but that was when Kernan was stranded up in centre half forward running around like a headless chicken. A solution could be to play dyas in corner back and duffy in half back but then again that would hinder dyas as he is so comfortable on the ball. young morgan for cross looks like a very good defender but as of yet I don't thinkk he is on the panel, but def one for the future
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on December 18, 2010, 09:47:09 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 18, 2010, 05:54:41 PM

You all seem to be skirting around he issue that a lot of people do. ak isn't good enough to start on a team with potential half backs the calibre of mckeever, duffy, donaghy, moriarty and dyas.

Carrying a defender for frees is not on at this level. either he earns a place in the forwards or he sits on the bench.

spot on...i think paul duffy is a better passer and ball carrier than AK and anyone who followed our championship win in '09 and armagh last year should see that??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on December 19, 2010, 10:57:07 AM

I don't buy this ball carrying and passing stuff with ak. He carries the ball in ineffective areas - McKeever, Dyas, Moriarty and duffy are all much more penetrating carriers of the ball. Also, he is neat and tidy with his punt passing - he always takes the sure option and does it well - good quality - but he will never open a defence up or create with a pass. Steven and tony are much better in that department. We have always known his defensive frailties, although i thought he had shown signs of improvement in 08 & 09. He had a poor armagh championship though. Dyas, who isn't even a forward, destroyed him in the county final.

In my view, our best defence looks something like: Mallon, Donaghy, an other, Dyas, McKeever, Duffy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on December 19, 2010, 07:28:28 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on December 17, 2010, 03:27:46 PM
Quote from: orchard 8195 on December 17, 2010, 02:10:59 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on December 17, 2010, 12:57:44 PM
In the defense Mc Keever gets my vote at chb. He will be there to snuff out the dangers and hold the middle. Ak on one wing and acting as the link up man between backs and forwards and probably Dyas on the other wing. Think Moriarty would be better coming on as a sub as he will always run himself into the ground. Duffy is another option at half back, again powerful going forward.  just don't feel he is as good on the ball as the others and possession is key.

FF line would be Tasker, R Clarke, Mc Donnell

Hf line                J.Clarke,?,?  Think we need a player in here who can win the dirty ball and double up in defense if Kernan or Dyas was to move forward. Also have the diversity to be able to move into the defense and vice versa.               
do u mean u wouldnt have jamie clarke on then?

No i would have clarke and two others but wasn't sure who. I think Brian Mallon has a great workrate but he just doesn't have enough creativity and Micheal O Rourke for me is lacking pace meaning any good man marking could sniff him out. The lad can take a score but i have yet to see him perform in big games (i must confess i have only really seen him against Cross and Harps so other lads are probably in better positions to comment on him) IMO we need a ball winner, a natural scorer and a playmaker in Hf. That combination for me would work best and the more players we have with two or three of these attributes then even better

think he got 1-3 or 1-4 in county final this year?also tortured finn mo in sigerson final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on December 19, 2010, 08:37:41 PM

Mallon is not a hard worker in my view. The reason for that seems obvious - not as fit as those around him
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on December 20, 2010, 03:19:38 PM
So despite a good year last year Duffy must be benched to make way for the mighty AK. Are you joking?

Duffy is a gain line breaker, great distributer, point taker and is a must in this Armagh team if we are to get back and challenge the top teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 20, 2010, 05:21:18 PM
In that case AK would be cut from the same cloth as CV. Two brilliant athletes but nowhere to play them. I'd have Duffy ahead of both of them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 21, 2010, 09:07:56 AM
some crap being stated on here. not to pick paul duffy about the only player to take the fight to monaghan would be madness. halfback line will probually be ak cmck paul duffy. full-backs am bd fm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on December 21, 2010, 09:10:13 AM
i heard from a cruppin source that willie j padden has transfered to them recently. what happened that he went of the radar for mayo last year? hope he didnt see last years cship match with cross or he will change his mind.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 21, 2010, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 21, 2010, 09:07:56 AM
some crap being stated on here. not to pick paul duffy about the only player to take the fight to monaghan would be madness. halfback line will probually be ak cmck paul duffy. full-backs am bd fm.

That's the one i'd go with. Plenty of pace & experience in there... all coming to their peak!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Slicker on December 21, 2010, 12:01:40 PM
Id go with:

Hearty
Mallon
Donaghy
Duffy
AK
McKeever
Dyas
Toner
Lavery
Swift
SK/MOR
Vernon/Grugan
Clarke
Clarke
McDonnell

I know two players cant play in the same position so i would play vernon, only if grugan doesnt show something in the early stages of his young career. People can sometimes get carried away with throwing names into teams without seeing them at that level. So basically i would only play vernon if grugan takes bit of time to develop at senior level. Vernon built up by all to be certain starter but def not the case. For no.11 i am in bit of trouble. B.Mallon doesnt cut it, as much as i like his effort and will to do well i think we need someone creative like sk or mor.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on December 21, 2010, 02:09:09 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on December 21, 2010, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 21, 2010, 09:07:56 AM
some crap being stated on here. not to pick paul duffy about the only player to take the fight to monaghan would be madness. halfback line will probually be ak cmck paul duffy. full-backs am bd fm.

That's the one i'd go with. Plenty of pace & experience in there... all coming to their peak!
But not much defending either Goats, we can afford to have one ball playing HB bombing up the field but not two. I would have Duffy on ahead of AK myself going on last year's performances. It's a pity we didn't have such a choice in the HF line.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on December 21, 2010, 03:25:50 PM
Quote from: mackers on December 21, 2010, 02:09:09 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on December 21, 2010, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 21, 2010, 09:07:56 AM
some crap being stated on here. not to pick paul duffy about the only player to take the fight to monaghan would be madness. halfback line will probually be ak cmck paul duffy. full-backs am bd fm.

That's the one i'd go with. Plenty of pace & experience in there... all coming to their peak!
But not much defending either Goats, we can afford to have one ball playing HB bombing up the field but not two. I would have Duffy on ahead of AK myself going on last year's performances. It's a pity we didn't have such a choice in the HF line.

Says who? - says you!
If they're going forward all the time, i've no problem with it... means Armagh have posession! - As long as they use it well, then Armagh won't be exposed!

Attack (& Defend) in numbers!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 21, 2010, 08:07:13 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 21, 2010, 09:10:13 AM
i heard from a cruppin source that willie j padden has transfered to them recently. what happened that he went of the radar for mayo last year? hope he didnt see last years cship match with cross or he will change his mind.

Is this the same source that released it last year, and the year before that, and the yeat before that.... ::)  If I were Cruppin i would push for Billy Joe as I reckon Willie Joe has had his day!  "Will Galway bate Mayo?  Not if they have Willie Joe?"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on December 21, 2010, 08:37:34 PM
Quote from: mackers on December 21, 2010, 02:09:09 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on December 21, 2010, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 21, 2010, 09:07:56 AM
some crap being stated on here. not to pick paul duffy about the only player to take the fight to monaghan would be madness. halfback line will probually be ak cmck paul duffy. full-backs am bd fm.

That's the one i'd go with. Plenty of pace & experience in there... all coming to their peak!
But not much defending either Goats, we can afford to have one ball playing HB bombing up the field but not two. I would have Duffy on ahead of AK myself going on last year's performances. It's a pity we didn't have such a choice in the HF line.

I only had to suggest AK over Duffy and all hell broke loose so that would be the safe option.  :)

Seriously though I think both have their positives and negatives. Although Duffy played well last year when he was in the half forward line, like AK this year, the year before he was less than good. Ideally Duffy would nail down a place while AK helps Cross win an All Ireland and Grugan proves to be an ace free taker and play maker (not must to ask from a young fella!). On a separate note if I wanted a player to come on at half back and turn a game in your favour I would take Duffy to come on. All yet to be considered and exciting times ahead!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on December 23, 2010, 12:29:56 PM
For what it's worth in my opinion Aaron Kernan, McKeever and Moriarty would beour HB line, Kernan has been outstanding for cross in that position. Moriarty will always give the HF something to defend against whilst McKeever is ....well McKeever.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on December 23, 2010, 02:45:13 PM
See on ceefax that Ryan Henderson has decided to saty out of the Armagh panel and focus on Donegal celtic. Must be in line for a champions league place  :D

But seriously Henderson is a good footballer and he has been on that panel now for three years and IMO he hasn't got the chances he deserved in the bigger games. Whilst i think turning your back on the GAA for soccer in unacceptable i can see the lads point if this is infact the situation as soe of these stories turn out to be hearsay


Anyway Happy Christmas lads look forwards to another good years banter and abuse  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on December 24, 2010, 12:33:50 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on December 23, 2010, 02:45:13 PM
See on ceefax that Ryan Henderson has decided to saty out of the Armagh panel and focus on Donegal celtic. Must be in line for a champions league place  :D

But seriously Henderson is a good footballer and he has been on that panel now for three years and IMO he hasn't got the chances he deserved in the bigger games. Whilst i think turning your back on the GAA for soccer in unacceptable i can see the lads point if this is infact the situation as soe of these stories turn out to be hearsay


Anyway Happy Christmas lads look forwards to another good years banter and abuse  ;)
It was in the Irish News yesterday, i'd say thats his intercounty career over. To hot and cold anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on December 24, 2010, 03:43:19 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on December 21, 2010, 03:25:50 PM
Quote from: mackers on December 21, 2010, 02:09:09 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on December 21, 2010, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on December 21, 2010, 09:07:56 AM
some crap being stated on here. not to pick paul duffy about the only player to take the fight to monaghan would be madness. halfback line will probually be ak cmck paul duffy. full-backs am bd fm.

That's the one i'd go with. Plenty of pace & experience in there... all coming to their peak!
But not much defending either Goats, we can afford to have one ball playing HB bombing up the field but not two. I would have Duffy on ahead of AK myself going on last year's performances. It's a pity we didn't have such a choice in the HF line.

Says who? - says you!
If they're going forward all the time, i've no problem with it... means Armagh have posession! - As long as they use it well, then Armagh won't be exposed!

Attack (& Defend) in numbers!  ;)
seen in one of the local papers during the week that armagh condeded more frees than any other team in the championship last year in that game v derry which was also the most frees awarded in any championship game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 03, 2011, 08:28:42 PM
Anyone got any idea when the leagues r due to start?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on January 03, 2011, 09:23:34 PM
Just heard there that Carlsberg are interested in the Athletic Grounds, geared towards getting into the GAA social clubs one would think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on January 04, 2011, 06:58:51 AM
I can`t see that happening,as alchol sponsorship is not possible. But if they were?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: get up there on January 04, 2011, 10:02:29 PM
its sure going to be a league to look forward to , playing with the big boys :o  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 05, 2011, 12:49:10 PM
I see Henderson's name on the McKenna cup squad? He's scoring rightly for Donegal Celtic! The Fella was right to walk away from Armagh if thats true, he was made the scapegoat for the last few years. As soon as anything happened he was subbed.

Last year against Dery (i think) he played well, he didn't score but got a few free's and set up about 3 pts and was dropped for the Monaghan game. I think Ryan, Clarke (R) and McDonnell would have been a cracker full forward line. If the management could have sorted out Armagh's Half Forward line it would have had better results...

Before u all start i know he has under achieved but he knew himself that come the big games he was always getting the chop, the managers should have been more loyalty to him. My opinion is he's worth a place in the team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 05, 2011, 03:32:20 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 05, 2011, 12:49:10 PM
I see Henderson's name on the McKenna cup squad? He's scoring rightly for Donegal Celtic! The Fella was right to walk away from Armagh if thats true, he was made the scapegoat for the last few years. As soon as anything happened he was subbed.

Last year against Dery (i think) he played well, he didn't score but got a few free's and set up about 3 pts and was dropped for the Monaghan game. I think Ryan, Clarke (R) and McDonnell would have been a cracker full forward line. If the management could have sorted out Armagh's Half Forward line it would have had better results...

Before u all start i know he has under achieved but he knew himself that come the big games he was always getting the chop, the managers should have been more loyalty to him. My opinion is he's worth a place in the team

agree that he was excellent v derry last year.  ryan is a confidence player and getting hauled off despite playing well, showed a lack of support from o'rourke in my view.  jamie clarke's emergence, the return to form of miceal orourke and the development of some of the minor players probablyhelped ryan make the decision.  good luck to him hopefully he keeps DC uo  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 05, 2011, 04:14:40 PM
I'm still reserving judgment on Grugan, Tasker and co, seen them play ball for their clubs and although they stand out county will be a step up. On that basis I'd have liked Henderson to have stayed, although a good bit older he still has more experience than them. Always disappointing to see a player chose soccer over GAA, and going from playing championship one year to possibly not playing the next.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 06, 2011, 10:50:32 AM
How did Cross fair out against Queens last night in Taghnavan?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Family guy on January 06, 2011, 01:16:26 PM
I hear johnny murtagh is back to lead armagh back to the glory days,or should i say day lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 06, 2011, 07:36:16 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 06, 2011, 10:50:32 AM
How did Cross fair out against Queens last night in Taghnavan?

wasnt on illdecide u21 side trained up there
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on January 06, 2011, 08:32:10 PM
Had a meeting last night to see what championship we would be playing in. According to a few of the committee the championship draws are on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 07, 2011, 09:46:40 PM
Philip McEvoy Naomh Padraig, Droim an Tí

Vincent Martin Naomh Padraig, Droim an Tí

Kieran Toner Naomh Mhuire, An Gráinne Mór

Paul Duffy Na Piarsaigh Óga, Ard Mhacha

Kevin Dyas Naomh Padraig, Droim an Tí

Declan McKenna Cláirsigh Ard Mhacha

Joe Feeney Ropairí na Madán

Charlie Vernon Cláirsigh Ard Mhacha

Gareth O' Néill Naomh Padraig, Droim an Tí

Rory Grugan Na Cloigthithe, Baile Mhic an Aba

Micheal O'Rourke Naomh Padraig, Droim an Tí

Anto Duffy Na Piarsaigh Óga, Ard Mhacha

Gavin McParland Na Cloigthithe, Baile Mhic an Aba

Brian Mallon Tír na n-Óg, Port An Dúnáin

Colm Watters Na Gormacha, Baile Mhic Cullaigh

team for sun.johnny murtagh in the subs! :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 07, 2011, 09:55:03 PM
At least that looks like an attacking team with a bit of pace in it. Where has murtagh been?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: new devil on January 07, 2011, 10:56:30 PM
Quote from: Family guy on January 06, 2011, 01:16:26 PM
I hear johnny murtagh is back to lead armagh back to the glory days,or should i say day lol

Haha the man can't make his club team and he gets called up too the county team...His uncle most be the trainer or something  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 08, 2011, 12:11:14 AM
Bit of a joke if it's true to be honest. Isn't he the one that was over in NY? Heard he was playing well over there but still. We have a fella that has spent the best part of his playing career injured starting and another who hasn't even been in the country transferring back to his club and within a few weeks he's on the county team? I seem to remember a few pages back winsamsoon saying some fellas weren't getting a fair crack/were being over looked, well it would seem there is quite some merit in that argument.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: new devil on January 08, 2011, 12:24:14 AM
He played well against the poor teams in the league but once Tyrone got to the play-offs he was no where to be seen..bit of a yellow streak in him to which would hardly help in county football...sad to see how far Armagh have went back this last few years when they have to call lads like this in
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 08, 2011, 11:04:23 AM
Has to be a wind up...........I'll believe it when I see it. Dunno about Joe Feeney at wing back.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 08, 2011, 01:46:35 PM
Quote from: mackers on January 08, 2011, 11:04:23 AM
Has to be a wind up...........I'll believe it when I see it. Dunno about Joe Feeney at wing back.....
thought that myself.  was thinking about it last night, maybe try CV at chb, shift mckenna to the wing and move feeney to midfield.  he scored 11 points against us in the league last year and spent the majority of the time playing there. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 09, 2011, 01:23:33 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 08, 2011, 12:11:14 AM
Bit of a joke if it's true to be honest. Isn't he the one that was over in NY? Heard he was playing well over there but still. We have a fella that has spent the best part of his playing career injured starting and another who hasn't even been in the country transferring back to his club and within a few weeks he's on the county team? I seem to remember a few pages back winsamsoon saying some fellas weren't getting a fair crack/were being over looked, well it would seem there is quite some merit in that argument.

If true just another example of the sticking with the status quo and names of the past
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 09, 2011, 10:32:06 AM
All McKenna cup matches off today
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2011, 12:06:42 PM
Has Billie Joe's transfer to Cruppen actually happened?  Read on another board that he has joined up and is training with Armagh squad, in the Irish News apparently.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 10, 2011, 01:29:51 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2011, 12:06:42 PM
Has Billie Joe's transfer to Cruppen actually happened?  Read on another board that he has joined up and is training with Armagh squad, in the Irish News apparently.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/northern_ireland/gaelic_games/9354333.stm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2011, 01:32:21 PM
I raised this question on orchardcounty.com.  Does he deserve his shout for the county in the McKenna any more or any less than John Murtagh given the fact that neither have been playing for their respective clubs in Armagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 10, 2011, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2011, 01:32:21 PM
I raised this question on orchardcounty.com.  Does he deserve his shout for the county in the McKenna any more or any less than John Murtagh given the fact that neither have been playing for their respective clubs in Armagh?
I think it's a complete disgrace that John Murtagh has been called up to the panel. What is the point of lads being on this additional panel (elite/development or whatever it's called) if Murtagh can walk off a plane from NY and straight onto the panel.  See O'Rourke saying that he had been playing well in NY and they wanted to have a look at him. Utter rubbish!!
Since when did playing well in a NY championship get you on to an Armagh panel??
He was hardly a regular on the Cross team before he left. IMO he's been living off a good Ulster final performance against Mayobridge some years back for too long.
I'd have reservations about Padden too but Murtagh's inclusion smacks of uncle Donal pulling a few too many strings.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 10, 2011, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: mackers on January 10, 2011, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2011, 01:32:21 PM
I raised this question on orchardcounty.com.  Does he deserve his shout for the county in the McKenna any more or any less than John Murtagh given the fact that neither have been playing for their respective clubs in Armagh?
I think it's a complete disgrace that John Murtagh has been called up to the panel. What is the point of lads being on this additional panel (elite/development or whatever it's called) if Murtagh can walk off a plane from NY and straight onto the panel.  See O'Rourke saying that he had been playing well in NY and they wanted to have a look at him. Utter rubbish!!
Since when did playing well in a NY championship get you on to an Armagh panel??
He was hardly a regular on the Cross team before he left. IMO he's been living off a good Ulster final performance against Mayobridge some years back for too long.
I'd have reservations about Padden too but Murtagh's inclusion smacks of uncle Donal pulling a few too many strings.

So Dyas didn't deserve a place on the panel either, after coming home from Oz? Or Big Ronan... when's the last time he's played!? Dont be silly...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 10, 2011, 03:41:41 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 10, 2011, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: mackers on January 10, 2011, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2011, 01:32:21 PM
I raised this question on orchardcounty.com.  Does he deserve his shout for the county in the McKenna any more or any less than John Murtagh given the fact that neither have been playing for their respective clubs in Armagh?
I think it's a complete disgrace that John Murtagh has been called up to the panel. What is the point of lads being on this additional panel (elite/development or whatever it's called) if Murtagh can walk off a plane from NY and straight onto the panel.  See O'Rourke saying that he had been playing well in NY and they wanted to have a look at him. Utter rubbish!!
Since when did playing well in a NY championship get you on to an Armagh panel??
He was hardly a regular on the Cross team before he left. IMO he's been living off a good Ulster final performance against Mayobridge some years back for too long.
I'd have reservations about Padden too but Murtagh's inclusion smacks of uncle Donal pulling a few too many strings.

So Dyas didn't deserve a place on the panel either, after coming home from Oz? Or Big Ronan... when's the last time he's played!? Dont be silly...
Come off it Goats, are you seriously comparing Ronan Clarke to John Murtagh? Don't think I'm the silly one. John Murtagh couldn't make it on to the county panel when he was playing for Cross for several years. All of a sudden he plays a few good matches in NY and gets straight onto the panel, and we're expected to think it's a coincidence that his uncle is one of the selectors.
Kevin Dyas was playing professional sport and unfortuneately got a horrendous injury at the tail end of it. He was a star of an Ulster winning minor team (may have captained them?) and a Hogan Cup winning team. Think his credentials are also a damned sight better than John Murtagh's.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 10, 2011, 04:05:18 PM
I wouldn't get too caught up in it at this stage, performances will either justify his inclusion or his exclusion from the squad. I've seen a lot worse players play for Armagh in the McKenna cup over the years and have thought to myself "Well if he's playing for Armagh what the hell have i done wrong"?

Judge him after a few matches...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 10, 2011, 04:45:21 PM
I'd say he'll do well to get back into the Cross forward line at the minute, it'll be interesting to see what happens in London at the weekend or in the semi if they qualify.
In fairness, Donal Murtagh dropped John fairly sharpish if he was playing poorly for Cross (which he did regularly) when he was over them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 10, 2011, 06:31:30 PM
A bit of pragmatism wouldn't go amiss. Murtagh's inclusion serves a couple of purposes. Primarily, he'll get a few minutes game time under his belt before heading off to help our county champions on their AI quest; and it'll also allow O'Rourke to get a look at another option, perhaps an option fortunate to have the opportunity, but another option nonetheless. Given our paucity of genuinely naturally talented attacking options in recent years, the more boys that get a go the better as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 10, 2011, 07:30:46 PM
Quote from: mackers on January 10, 2011, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2011, 01:32:21 PM
I raised this question on orchardcounty.com.  Does he deserve his shout for the county in the McKenna any more or any less than John Murtagh given the fact that neither have been playing for their respective clubs in Armagh?
I think it's a complete disgrace that John Murtagh has been called up to the panel. What is the point of lads being on this additional panel (elite/development or whatever it's called) if Murtagh can walk off a plane from NY and straight onto the panel.  See O'Rourke saying that he had been playing well in NY and they wanted to have a look at him. Utter rubbish!!
Since when did playing well in a NY championship get you on to an Armagh panel??
He was hardly a regular on the Cross team before he left. IMO he's been living off a good Ulster final performance against Mayobridge some years back for too long.
I'd have reservations about Padden too but Murtagh's inclusion smacks of uncle Donal pulling a few too many strings.

by all accounts he did very well v galway no mean feet.  Good point made about the development squad though,the like of tasker,mcverry,campbell, rafferty sure to be annoyed.  Murtagh has shown potential before M.O.M in ulster club final v the Bridge.  the other lads will have their chance im sure possible last chance saloon at this stage for murtagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 10, 2011, 09:06:17 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 10, 2011, 06:31:30 PM
A bit of pragmatism wouldn't go amiss. Murtagh's inclusion serves a couple of purposes. Primarily, he'll get a few minutes game time under his belt before heading off to help our county champions on their AI quest; and it'll also allow O'Rourke to get a look at another option, perhaps an option fortunate to have the opportunity, but another option nonetheless. Given our paucity of genuinely naturally talented attacking options in recent years, the more boys that get a go the better as far as I'm concerned.

I don't really object to Murtagh being in the squad. He is an option, he's a good footballer who might be a squad option for us so on that basis I've no difficulties with him taking part in the McKenna Cup. I would, however, object if it turned out that our county squad was being used solely to assist a particular club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 10, 2011, 09:51:43 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 10, 2011, 06:31:30 PM
A bit of pragmatism wouldn't go amiss. Murtagh's inclusion serves a couple of purposes. Primarily, he'll get a few minutes game time under his belt before heading off to help our county champions on their AI quest; and it'll also allow O'Rourke to get a look at another option, perhaps an option fortunate to have the opportunity, but another option nonetheless. Given our paucity of genuinely naturally talented attacking options in recent years, the more boys that get a go the better as far as I'm concerned.

Seems the county champions have told him his services won't be required.

Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 10, 2011, 09:06:17 PM
I don't really object to Murtagh being in the squad. He is an option, he's a good footballer who might be a squad option for us so on that basis I've no difficulties with him taking part in the McKenna Cup. I would, however, object if it turned out that our county squad was being used solely to assist a particular club.

You're only saying that cos he's a cullyhanna man
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 11, 2011, 10:47:18 AM
Quote from: mackers on January 10, 2011, 03:41:41 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 10, 2011, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: mackers on January 10, 2011, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2011, 01:32:21 PM
I raised this question on orchardcounty.com.  Does he deserve his shout for the county in the McKenna any more or any less than John Murtagh given the fact that neither have been playing for their respective clubs in Armagh?
I think it's a complete disgrace that John Murtagh has been called up to the panel. What is the point of lads being on this additional panel (elite/development or whatever it's called) if Murtagh can walk off a plane from NY and straight onto the panel.  See O'Rourke saying that he had been playing well in NY and they wanted to have a look at him. Utter rubbish!!
Since when did playing well in a NY championship get you on to an Armagh panel??
He was hardly a regular on the Cross team before he left. IMO he's been living off a good Ulster final performance against Mayobridge some years back for too long.
I'd have reservations about Padden too but Murtagh's inclusion smacks of uncle Donal pulling a few too many strings.

So Dyas didn't deserve a place on the panel either, after coming home from Oz? Or Big Ronan... when's the last time he's played!? Dont be silly...
Come off it Goats, are you seriously comparing Ronan Clarke to John Murtagh? Don't think I'm the silly one. John Murtagh couldn't make it on to the county panel when he was playing for Cross for several years. All of a sudden he plays a few good matches in NY and gets straight onto the panel, and we're expected to think it's a coincidence that his uncle is one of the selectors.
Kevin Dyas was playing professional sport and unfortuneately got a horrendous injury at the tail end of it. He was a star of an Ulster winning minor team (may have captained them?) and a Hogan Cup winning team. Think his credentials are also a damned sight better than John Murtagh's.

I just think you're being very harsh on him. I don't see the problem in having a look at him or anyone else!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 11, 2011, 12:54:25 PM
I may be wrong here but did Crossmaglen tell Murtagh that he would not be part of the squad or not be used against the London team but that if they were successful then and got into the All Ireland semi final then he could join the squad?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 11, 2011, 01:04:50 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 11, 2011, 12:54:25 PM
I may be wrong here but did Crossmaglen tell Murtagh that he would not be part of the squad or not be used against the London team but that if they were successful then and got into the All Ireland semi final then he could join the squad?

No according to the IN today he will not be considered until the AI campaign is over.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 11, 2011, 02:05:45 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 11, 2011, 01:04:50 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 11, 2011, 12:54:25 PM
I may be wrong here but did Crossmaglen tell Murtagh that he would not be part of the squad or not be used against the London team but that if they were successful then and got into the All Ireland semi final then he could join the squad?

No according to the IN today he will not be considered until the AI campaign is over.

Aye just read it there at lunchtime. Fair play to Cross as it would have been easier to take him back into the squad but T Mac showing faith in the rest of the squad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 11, 2011, 02:57:47 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 11, 2011, 10:47:18 AM
Quote from: mackers on January 10, 2011, 03:41:41 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 10, 2011, 02:06:30 PM
Quote from: mackers on January 10, 2011, 01:44:55 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2011, 01:32:21 PM
I raised this question on orchardcounty.com.  Does he deserve his shout for the county in the McKenna any more or any less than John Murtagh given the fact that neither have been playing for their respective clubs in Armagh?
I think it's a complete disgrace that John Murtagh has been called up to the panel. What is the point of lads being on this additional panel (elite/development or whatever it's called) if Murtagh can walk off a plane from NY and straight onto the panel.  See O'Rourke saying that he had been playing well in NY and they wanted to have a look at him. Utter rubbish!!
Since when did playing well in a NY championship get you on to an Armagh panel??
He was hardly a regular on the Cross team before he left. IMO he's been living off a good Ulster final performance against Mayobridge some years back for too long.
I'd have reservations about Padden too but Murtagh's inclusion smacks of uncle Donal pulling a few too many strings.

So Dyas didn't deserve a place on the panel either, after coming home from Oz? Or Big Ronan... when's the last time he's played!? Dont be silly...
Come off it Goats, are you seriously comparing Ronan Clarke to John Murtagh? Don't think I'm the silly one. John Murtagh couldn't make it on to the county panel when he was playing for Cross for several years. All of a sudden he plays a few good matches in NY and gets straight onto the panel, and we're expected to think it's a coincidence that his uncle is one of the selectors.
Kevin Dyas was playing professional sport and unfortuneately got a horrendous injury at the tail end of it. He was a star of an Ulster winning minor team (may have captained them?) and a Hogan Cup winning team. Think his credentials are also a damned sight better than John Murtagh's.

I just think you're being very harsh on him. I don't see the problem in having a look at him or anyone else!
Fair enough, reading my posts again it looks like a vendetta against Murtagh but the point I was trying to make was that it isn't very encouraging for lads on the edge of the squad to see him parachuted in without any great reason (other than the obvious one!).
The Cross management appear to looking at it like that also.
I argued before Christmas with winsam when he implied that some lads weren't getting a fair crack of the whip but this sort of proves his point. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 11, 2011, 03:46:04 PM
I understand what you're saying... Stefan Forker will be sick!?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 11, 2011, 06:21:56 PM
And it will happen over and over again  and this will all add to the downfall . When a club have more principles than a county team over the inclusion of a player then something is wrong . What way do these transfer work ? What are the timescales?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 11, 2011, 06:42:34 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 11, 2011, 06:21:56 PM
And it will happen over and over again  and this will all add to the downfall . When a club have more principles than a county team over the inclusion of a player then something is wrong . What way do these transfer work ? What are the timescales?

In fairness, the circumstances Cross and Armagh find themselves in aren't really comparable.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 11, 2011, 06:56:18 PM
Of course they are comparable. A county team should be at the very least, drilled and organised as the best club in the county. When the county teams standards are falling below the actions of a club then something is wrong. When a lads own club won't take him back probably because they don't want to upset the apple cart then the county should at least follow suit but for some reason they have decided to include a lad in the panel after telling ten lads there wasn't any room for them but we will put you on a development squad. Also who has been dropped off the panel to make way for him?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 11, 2011, 07:23:35 PM
The circumstances are not comparable. Cross have been together for 12 months and are on the brink of an AI semi final. Armagh have been together for about 3 minutes and are on the brink of a pre-season friendly.

Also, the idea that someone must be excluded before anyone new is added to the panel is bunk, especially at this time of the year. While there may be an official limit on panel size, in reality teams carry as many as they like.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: deargdoom on January 11, 2011, 07:42:00 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on January 11, 2011, 06:56:18 PM
Also who has been dropped off the panel to make way for him?

Theres 33 on the panel at the minute. Henderson's spot was there anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on January 11, 2011, 08:24:06 PM
QuoteThe circumstances are not comparable. Cross have been together for 12 months and are on the brink of an AI semi final. Armagh have been together for about 3 minutes and are on the brink of a pre-season friendly.

Also, the idea that someone must be excluded before anyone new is added to the panel is bunk, especially at this time of the year. While there may be an official limit on panel size, in reality teams carry as many as they like.

+1 This time of year you try people out, later on you possibly bring in university players and cut down the panel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 11, 2011, 09:27:33 PM
Armagh have not been together all of 3 minutes as you say because the majority of the panel hasn't changed since last year and they will have been training together behind closed doors over the winter months whether it has been strength training or what. So they are not the tru circumstances.

I don't really care what you say in an ideal scenario your county team shoud be setting the example for the club teams and not the other way around
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on January 12, 2011, 10:44:58 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 10, 2011, 09:06:17 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 10, 2011, 06:31:30 PM
A bit of pragmatism wouldn't go amiss. Murtagh's inclusion serves a couple of purposes. Primarily, he'll get a few minutes game time under his belt before heading off to help our county champions on their AI quest; and it'll also allow O'Rourke to get a look at another option, perhaps an option fortunate to have the opportunity, but another option nonetheless. Given our paucity of genuinely naturally talented attacking options in recent years, the more boys that get a go the better as far as I'm concerned.

I don't really object to Murtagh being in the squad. He is an option, he's a good footballer who might be a squad option for us so on that basis I've no difficulties with him taking part in the McKenna Cup. I would, however, object if it turned out that our county squad was being used solely to assist a particular club.

I see the grapes are still a bit sour.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 12, 2011, 01:31:15 PM
Quote from: crossfire on January 12, 2011, 10:44:58 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 10, 2011, 09:06:17 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 10, 2011, 06:31:30 PM
A bit of pragmatism wouldn't go amiss. Murtagh's inclusion serves a couple of purposes. Primarily, he'll get a few minutes game time under his belt before heading off to help our county champions on their AI quest; and it'll also allow O'Rourke to get a look at another option, perhaps an option fortunate to have the opportunity, but another option nonetheless. Given our paucity of genuinely naturally talented attacking options in recent years, the more boys that get a go the better as far as I'm concerned.

I don't really object to Murtagh being in the squad. He is an option, he's a good footballer who might be a squad option for us so on that basis I've no difficulties with him taking part in the McKenna Cup. I would, however, object if it turned out that our county squad was being used solely to assist a particular club.

I see the grapes are still a bit sour.

Not at all, just stating a fairly reasonable point of principle. By disagreeing with me, are you saying that Paddy O'Rourke should be making decisions based on what's good for Crossmaglen, rather than what's good for Armagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 12, 2011, 04:51:44 PM
The tail wagging the dog is not new in this county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on January 12, 2011, 06:54:13 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 12, 2011, 01:31:15 PM
Quote from: crossfire on January 12, 2011, 10:44:58 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 10, 2011, 09:06:17 PM
Quote from: AFS on January 10, 2011, 06:31:30 PM
A bit of pragmatism wouldn't go amiss. Murtagh's inclusion serves a couple of purposes. Primarily, he'll get a few minutes game time under his belt before heading off to help our county champions on their AI quest; and it'll also allow O'Rourke to get a look at another option, perhaps an option fortunate to have the opportunity, but another option nonetheless. Given our paucity of genuinely naturally talented attacking options in recent years, the more boys that get a go the better as far as I'm concerned.

I don't really object to Murtagh being in the squad. He is an option, he's a good footballer who might be a squad option for us so on that basis I've no difficulties with him taking part in the McKenna Cup. I would, however, object if it turned out that our county squad was being used solely to assist a particular club.

I see the grapes are still a bit sour.

Not at all, just stating a fairly reasonable point of principle. By disagreeing with me, are you saying that Paddy O'Rourke should be making decisions based on what's good for Crossmaglen, rather than what's good for Armagh?

John Murtagh is not in the Cross Rangers panel despite offering his services.
Nor will he be in the panel until our participation in the all Ireland club series is complete.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 12, 2011, 09:45:58 PM
we got anportmor in championship.happy with that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 12, 2011, 09:46:32 PM
league starts 17th april
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 12, 2011, 09:54:08 PM
St Pat's v Whitecross in SFC

St Pat's II v Belleek in JFC
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 12, 2011, 10:02:29 PM
clan eireann v cross
ogs v dromitee
clans v cruppen

killeavey v middletown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 12, 2011, 10:29:50 PM
SFC Draw

Clan na Gael v Carrickcruppen
Maghery v Sarsfield's
Cullyhanna v Whitecross
Crossmaglen v Clann Eireann
Granemore v Newtown
Pearse Og v Dromintee
Harps v Mullabawn

Ballymacnab Bye

Two mouth-watering ties.

INTERMEDIATE
Killeavy v Middletown
St. Peters v Silverbridge
St. Pauls v Tir na Og
Shane O'Neills v Keady
Madden v Collegeland
Wolfe Tones v An Port Mor
Culloville v Grange
Ballyhegan - bye

JUNIOR

Preliminary Round
Mullaghbrack v Forkhill
Clonmore v Annaghmore
Crossmaglen II v Killean

1st Round
Lissummon v Mullaghbrack or Forkhill
Dromintee II v O'Hanlons
Dorsey Emmetts v Clady
Eire Og v Tullysaran
St. Patricks II v Belleek
Phelim Bradys v Correnshego
Derrynoose v Clonmore or Annaghmore
Killeavy II v Crossmaglen II or Killean
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on January 12, 2011, 11:04:03 PM
Not a bad draw for us either!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Abble on January 13, 2011, 08:17:01 AM
where else would you get it, a div 2 side playing junior football ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 13, 2011, 10:27:25 AM
good draw for ogs, it will certainly have them focused and if they get their forwards back and fit should sneak through. but im sure dromintee will think the same. handy draw for harps, cross, granemore and nab. other 3 are a toss of the coin.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 13, 2011, 10:48:38 AM
The only certainty for round two is Ballymacnab ;)
Title: Athletic Grounds Update
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on January 13, 2011, 12:06:21 PM
A few photos taken this morning - still a lot of work going on, applying the finishing bits and pieces.

It really looks well though - congratulations to all who made it possible.

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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 13, 2011, 12:51:55 PM
Quote from: anportmorforjfc on January 12, 2011, 11:04:03 PM
Not a bad draw for us either!

game we should win if we play to our potential.  Though it is the Championship and any complacency i am sure Anportmor will make us pay.  When Newtown won the championship 2 years ago, they were fortunate get past the blackwater men after a replay.  First round is best chance to cause a shock imo.  The intermediate would have pretty clear favourites in all games bar the Keady/Shane's game which could go either way. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: I SHOT JR on January 13, 2011, 05:30:15 PM
Cheers for the photos.  It's good to see how the development is going.  Looks well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on January 13, 2011, 07:41:10 PM
Thanks for the updated photos Rufus. Anyone know if all will be ready for the first league game against Dublin?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 14, 2011, 12:51:14 PM
1. Philip McEvoy, Naomh Padraig, Droim an Tí



2. Vincent Martin, Naomh Padraig, Droim an Tí



3. Kieran Toner, Naomh Mhuire, An Gráinne Mór



4. Paul Duffy, Na Piarsaigh Óga, Ard Mhacha



5. Kevin Dyas, Naomh Padraig, Droim an Tí



6. Declan McKenna, Cláirsigh Ard Mhacha



7. Joe Feeney, Ropairí na Madán



8. Charlie Vernon, Cláirsigh Ard Mhacha



9. Malachy Mackin, Naomh Padraig, Coilleach Eannach



10. Rory Grugan, Na Cloigthithe, Baile Mhic an Aba



11. Micheal O'Rourke, Naomh Padraig, Droim an Tí



12. Anto Duffy, Na Piarsaigh Óga, Ard Mhacha



13. Gavin McParland, Na Cloigthithe, Baile Mhic an Aba



14. Brian Mallon, Tír na n-Óg, Port An Dúnáin



15. Colm Watters, Na Gormacha, Baile Mhic Cullaigh



16. John McCullagh, Naomh Pádraig, Carraig Chrupáin



17. Conor Clarke, Na Piarsaigh Óga, Ard Mhacha



18. Steven McDonnell, Naomh Moiníne, Cill Shléibhe



19. James Lavery, Séan Mac Diarmada, Machaire



20. Ciaran McKeever, Naomh Padraig, Coilleach Eannach



21. John Murtagh, Raonaithe na Croise



22. Biily Joe Padden, Naomh Pádraig, Carraig Chrupáin
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Joxer on January 14, 2011, 02:23:58 PM
I know this question was asked already but I cant find the response,

But has Feeney ever played at half back before?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on January 14, 2011, 03:55:30 PM
Quote from: Joxer on January 14, 2011, 02:23:58 PM
I know this question was asked already but I cant find the response,

But has Feeney ever played at half back before?
is anto duffy a half forward, is he the guy who hurt himself in the donegal game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carmen Stateside on January 14, 2011, 04:20:55 PM
Would the fact Murtagh played in the NY championship not leave him ineligible for Cross? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: deargdoom on January 14, 2011, 04:23:17 PM
Quote from: naka on January 14, 2011, 03:55:30 PM
is anto duffy a half forward, is he the guy who hurt himself in the donegal game


yeh he is, had a decent enough showing before the injury too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on January 14, 2011, 05:07:54 PM
anto plays midfield for the club but he is exceptionally talented and can take a score. could be a big year for him with the county
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on January 14, 2011, 05:39:33 PM
Oisin to be interviewed 18:30 on RTE 1 radio sports re Cross game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on January 15, 2011, 01:18:44 AM
Billy Joe WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! O'Rourke must go, if your going to take blow ins at least take a decent one. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bigfrank on January 15, 2011, 02:10:25 AM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on January 14, 2011, 04:20:55 PM
Would the fact Murtagh played in the NY championship not leave him ineligible for Cross?

Indeed ur right Mr Carmen...Johnny is ruled out of cross's potential run to an all ireland club final...he however is allowed to play with the 3rd's and is currently training with them as john mc didnt want him involved with first time if he cant play
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ulick on January 15, 2011, 03:13:13 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 15, 2011, 01:18:44 AM
Billy Joe WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! O'Rourke must go, if your going to take blow ins at least take a decent one. ???
Not that long ago they were saying the same thing about John Donaldson.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gaffer on January 15, 2011, 10:14:38 AM
Your new ground looks very well.
I like the fact that both sides are sheltered
Looking forward to visiting it in the future!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 15, 2011, 11:51:06 AM
Quote from: Ulick on January 15, 2011, 03:13:13 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 15, 2011, 01:18:44 AM
Billy Joe WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! O'Rourke must go, if your going to take blow ins at least take a decent one. ???
Not that long ago they were saying the same thing about John Donaldson.

Well Donaldson was a born and bred Armagh man to be fair.

To suggest that O'Rourke should be sacked for utilising all the playing resources available to him is pathetic, particularly when the player in question clearly has the potential to make a decent contribution to the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on January 15, 2011, 03:13:05 PM

Is someone claiming that Donaldson was a success?

On Billy Joe, it's difficult to know if he will make any contribution. I always felt he was just short of county standard and if he proves only to be a squad player i'd prefer to see a younger armagh lad have a position on the panel
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on January 15, 2011, 03:32:22 PM
I think it is perfectly appropriate to give Padden a run. It may be difficult to know if he will make any contribution, that's why you try him out! In the McKenna cup with university and Cross players missing, it is unlikely that others are being denied a run out because of his presence. A young player will always have the possibility of a chance in the future.

QuoteLooking forward to visiting it in the future!!

Hopefully, Tyrone fans won't enjoy their visit too much and Down fans won't enjoy it at all.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: get up there on January 16, 2011, 12:35:14 AM
Quote from: The GAA on January 15, 2011, 03:13:05 PM

Is someone claiming that Donaldson was a success?

On Billy Joe, it's difficult to know if he will make any contribution. I always felt he was just short of county standard and if he proves only to be a squad player i'd prefer to see a younger armagh lad have a position on the panel
:D lol donaldson was a success in his own right, would u not have been happy with the same success??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on January 16, 2011, 12:40:07 AM
Athletic Grounds will be open for next Wednesday nights home game against St.Marys.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on January 16, 2011, 10:32:14 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 15, 2011, 11:51:06 AM
Quote from: Ulick on January 15, 2011, 03:13:13 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 15, 2011, 01:18:44 AM
Billy Joe WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! O'Rourke must go, if your going to take blow ins at least take a decent one. ???
Not that long ago they were saying the same thing about John Donaldson.

Well Donaldson was a born and bred Armagh man to be fair.

To suggest that O'Rourke should be sacked for utilising all the playing resources available to him is pathetic, particularly when the player in question clearly has the potential to make a decent contribution to the county.
I wasn't serious about the sacking bit, however Billy Joe struggled with Mayo and in my opinion this is a retrograde step, I would rather see Tasker in there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on January 16, 2011, 06:35:55 PM
billy joe came on last night and was a presence in midfield and definetly had a big part to play in armaghs comeback at the end of the match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on January 16, 2011, 11:22:44 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 16, 2011, 10:32:14 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 15, 2011, 11:51:06 AM
Quote from: Ulick on January 15, 2011, 03:13:13 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 15, 2011, 01:18:44 AM
Billy Joe WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! O'Rourke must go, if your going to take blow ins at least take a decent one. ???
Not that long ago they were saying the same thing about John Donaldson.

Well Donaldson was a born and bred Armagh man to be fair.

To suggest that O'Rourke should be sacked for utilising all the playing resources available to him is pathetic, particularly when the player in question clearly has the potential to make a decent contribution to the county.
I wasn't serious about the sacking bit, however Billy Joe struggled with Mayo and in my opinion this is a retrograde step, I would rather see Tasker in there.
would agree with that,,that 10 man development thing is a pile of muck,ur either on the panel or not..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on January 16, 2011, 11:23:52 PM
is this u21 final definitly guna be on this weekend??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 17, 2011, 01:12:41 AM
Quote from: 1life 1club on January 16, 2011, 11:22:44 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 16, 2011, 10:32:14 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 15, 2011, 11:51:06 AM
Quote from: Ulick on January 15, 2011, 03:13:13 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 15, 2011, 01:18:44 AM
Billy Joe WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!! O'Rourke must go, if your going to take blow ins at least take a decent one. ???
Not that long ago they were saying the same thing about John Donaldson.

Well Donaldson was a born and bred Armagh man to be fair.

To suggest that O'Rourke should be sacked for utilising all the playing resources available to him is pathetic, particularly when the player in question clearly has the potential to make a decent contribution to the county.
I wasn't serious about the sacking bit, however Billy Joe struggled with Mayo and in my opinion this is a retrograde step, I would rather see Tasker in there.
would agree with that,,that 10 man development thing is a pile of muck,ur either on the panel or not..





Have said this all along
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 19, 2011, 09:50:38 AM
I see the Co Board are running (if they get the numbers) a senior football shield to run before the season starts (March - April). Apparently there will be groups of 4 which guarantee's 3 games each and what i can read into is the top 2 teams then will play for bragging rights ::)

What do you make of this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on January 19, 2011, 10:02:42 AM

Fair enough effort at preseason football surely? Better than 3 challenge games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 19, 2011, 10:02:58 AM
Quote from: illdecide on January 19, 2011, 09:50:38 AM
I see the Co Board are running (if they get the numbers) a senior football shield to run before the season starts (March - April). Apparently there will be groups of 4 which guarantee's 3 games each and what i can read into is the top 2 teams then will play for bragging rights ::)

What do you make of this?

Yup to be run off ike the McKenna cup... replaces them silly pre season cups. Great idea, definately space for a league cup type competition, & will prove to be fantastic pre (league) season!

Talk of an U20 league too if i'm not mistaken, again... a good decision, fills an obvious gap before senior!

Also a change in the B / Reserve competition, where a 'named' list is no longer required. You simply cannot play for the reserves the week after starting for the seniors.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 19, 2011, 10:15:13 AM
Quote from: illdecide on January 19, 2011, 09:50:38 AM
I see the Co Board are running (if they get the numbers) a senior football shield to run before the season starts (March - April). Apparently there will be groups of 4 which guarantee's 3 games each and what i can read into is the top 2 teams then will play for bragging rights ::)

What do you make of this?

They did a similar thing when I was playing, say 15 years ago.  It was grand and all that but they are glorified challenge matches.  Too be honest you get sick of playing the same teams all the time and it is a good thing to be able to go to different clubs for different challenges.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 19, 2011, 10:50:43 AM
Well i can see what they're trying to do and some teams may well be up for it but i suspect teams will not want to show their hand to teams they're gonna meet 2 maybe 3 more times that season. Personally i'm not sure what to make of it!!! i can see the positives from it and as BC says i can see some negatives too.

The reserve set up is a good step but to me it's set up to help the bigger clubs and the smaller clubs may well suffer

Is it true too that U21 championship is being played August to September
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 19, 2011, 11:10:21 AM
Yeah... it's going to be an end of season run off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 19, 2011, 04:43:41 PM
Armagh match off tonight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on January 23, 2011, 03:15:09 PM
Cross beat Cullyhanna 2-8 to 0-8 in under 21 final in Killeavy.
Cullyhanna didn't score from play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on January 23, 2011, 03:40:32 PM
was the match any good??cross at full strength..ie clarke playing etc meant to get down to it however the occasion completly slipped my mind!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on January 23, 2011, 07:14:42 PM
Quote from: centrefield on January 23, 2011, 03:40:32 PM
was the match any good??cross at full strength..ie clarke playing etc meant to get down to it however the occasion completly slipped my mind!

It was quite a good competive game with Cross only pulling away in the last 10 to 15 minutes.
Cross fielded a very strong team with 6 of them, including Jamie, having played senior championship football this season.
Another 6 are in the senior panel.
There was a vey big crowd at it, probably 3 to 4 hundred.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bigfrank on January 23, 2011, 07:19:07 PM
any reports on the armagh v antrim game 2day??? poor start to the great new set up at the athletic grounds.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyMan on January 23, 2011, 08:59:40 PM
Grugan had a very good game once again in the HF line seems to be cementing a name for himself there, the MOTM for me was Dyas, had a fantastic game probaly one of the best he's had in an armagh jersey. The HB line was probably the best functioning unit of the team, Deckie McKenna played a solid game, Charlie Vernon played in CH and was solid enough too with a fantastic point in the first half. Paul duffy was playing in Corner Back and was bombing forward alot that helped armagh but he forgot about his defensive duties for most of the game and was struggling to stay with his man alot. MF had its moments Lavery mainly. A lot of the forwards were very quiet with Murtagh having a stinker, mcparland couldnt really get into the game and niether could  O' Rourke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on January 23, 2011, 09:21:39 PM
Quote from: CountyMan on January 23, 2011, 08:59:40 PM
Grugan had a very good game once again in the HF line seems to be cementing a name for himself there, the MOTM for me was Dyas, had a fantastic game probaly one of the best he's had in an armagh jersey. The HB line was probably the best functioning unit of the team, Deckie McKenna played a solid game, Charlie Vernon played in CH and was solid enough too with a fantastic point in the first half. Paul duffy was playing in Corner Back and was bombing forward alot that helped armagh but he forgot about his defensive duties for most of the game and was struggling to stay with his man alot. MF had its moments Lavery mainly. A lot of the forwards were very quiet with Murtagh having a stinker, mcparland couldnt really get into the game and niether could  O' Rourke.

thought vernon was very loose marking and everything good antrim did went through niblock.  Though a big fan of grugan, thought he was quiet enough in 2nd half?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyMan on January 23, 2011, 09:25:10 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on January 23, 2011, 09:21:39 PM
thought vernon was very loose marking and everything good antrim did went through niblock.  Though a big fan of grugan, thought he was quiet enough in 2nd half?

Well that would be true at times he did fall lose from his man but so did paul duffy. Grugan was abit quiter in the second half but the scores he hit made up for it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Kid on January 23, 2011, 11:00:20 PM
Agree with most written on here about the game today, thought dyas and grugan were the two standout performers with duffy and mc kenna showing well at times also. Antrim seemed to get their scores alot easier than we did but then again they had a near full strength team on display. Murtagh had a bit of a nightmare and michéal o'rourke wasnt much better, and as for feeney at the end when armagh were a goal down with a min left and he tries to score a point himself instead of putting the ball in, what was going through his head? if I'm correct we still have a chance of making the semi's if we rack up a decent score against st marys on wed night, hopefully that would give a few regulars , ie mc donnell and mc keever a bit more game time before the league
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: usa07 on January 24, 2011, 12:16:46 AM
I hear that clown murtagh was way out of his depth today!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 24, 2011, 12:40:42 AM
Under 21 Championship final - St Patrick's 0-8 Crossmaglen Rangers 2-8

The under 21 championship which commenced in April 2010 finally reached its conclusion on Sunday last however there was to be no fairytale ending for the Cullyhanna side who were defeated by a well drilled Crossmaglen outfit at Killeavy. After a somewhat tempestuous opening with tackles flying, it was Crossmaglen who drew first blood when a lobbing effort dropped beyond the reach of the St Pat's netminder for a goal. Despite this horrific opening, St Pat's soon responded and a foul on Tony Donnelly allowed Kieran Hoey to open the Cullyhanna scoring after 5 minutes. A minute later an inspirational run from full back Colm Hoey ended in a Crossmaglen player dragging the former county minor to the ground only for Robbie Tasker to strike the ball perfectly over the bar from all of 40 yards. Kieran Hoey and Jamie Clarke exchanged further frees to leave the score 1-1 to 0-3. After 17 minutes, St Pat's finally managed to supply Robbie Tasker with quality ball however he was immediately fouled on gaining possession. Kieran Hoey made no mistake with the resultant free kick to draw the sides level and Cullyhanna went ahead soon after from a Robbie Tasker free. Although Cullyhanna had managed to gain a stranglehold on the match at this stage, their dominance was soon broken as Cross swept forward in a bright attacking movement. Despite some dubious handpasses in the build-up, a penalty was awarded following a clear foul and Armagh star Jamie Clarke made no mistake in dispatching the ball to the net from 11 metres. Cross forged 3 ahead with a Jamie Clarke point but in  first half injury time, a Gary McCooey free kick found Tasker well. Unsurprisingly given what had been happening throughout the half, Robbie was again unceremiously fouled but dusted himself down to score the free.

With the halftime score standing at St Pat's 0-6 Crossmaglen 2-2, the Cullyhanna faithful had every right to feel that they were well in the match. Although the quality of the match had not been high, Cullyhanna had slightly the better of the exchanges but trailed due to the clinical manner in which Crossmaglen made each attack count.

As so often happens, the opening minutes of the second half were to prove crucial and it was in this period that Crossmaglen laid the foundations for their victory. In the 10 minutes following half-time the Rangers achieved almost total dominance of possession and displayed remarkable accuracy to kick 5 unanswered points, 2 of which were from play. Having extended their advantage to seven, Crossmaglen were never likely to falter and so it proved as Cullyhanna never really looked like reducing their deficit by a significant margin. However it might all have been so difficult had Kieran Hoey not seen his powerful shot ricochet off the Crossmaglen post following a superb driving run while there were only four points between the teams. To be fair to the St Pat's side, they did put their opponents under pressure in the final quarter however Crossmaglen defended superbly to ensure that their goal remained in tact. Two Robbie Tasker pointed frees were all Cullyhanna could muster in reply as Crossmaglen ran out worthy victors by 2-8 to 0-8 and we warmly congratulate them on their success.

Although this was not to be Cullyhanna's day, they can take pride in their efforts throughout the competition. Given the haphazard manner in which fixtures arrived it was difficult for the side to build up any momentum. While no doubt the entire team will be disappointed in the second half performance, Pearse Casey, Colm Hoey and Kieran Hoey can take great pride in their individual displays.

Starting XV: D McArdle; E McArdle, C Hoey, S O'Neill; G McCooey, N McShane, M Murray; G McCooey, P Casey; K Nugent, T Donnelly, K Hoey (0-3), T Donnelly, K Nugent; K McEvoy, R Tasker (0-5), R McMahon. Subs Used: K McCooey, A McCooey, R O'Neill
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 24, 2011, 12:55:43 AM
Quote from: crossfire on January 23, 2011, 07:14:42 PM
Quote from: centrefield on January 23, 2011, 03:40:32 PM
was the match any good??cross at full strength..ie clarke playing etc meant to get down to it however the occasion completly slipped my mind!

It was quite a good competive game with Cross only pulling away in the last 10 to 15 minutes.
Cross fielded a very strong team with 6 of them, including Jamie, having played senior championship football this season.
Another 6 are in the senior panel.
There was a vey big crowd at it, probably 3 to 4 hundred.

It was a brutally poor match I thought. Cross didn't score in the last 15 minutes, it was their 6 unanswered points in the 3rd quarter which won them the match. Rangers were much the better team on the day, our lads didn't do themselves justice at all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on January 24, 2011, 09:13:17 AM
Quote from: usa07 on January 24, 2011, 12:16:46 AM
I hear that clown murtagh was way out of his depth today!!
A bit unfair to call him a clown. It was surprising though that he wasn't taken off until 60/65 minutes. Full back line was a disaster. Paul Duffy was nowhere to be seen as McGourty pulled the strings and Toner was too slow always behind his man and didn't look like a full back. I don't think too many of the absentees have much to worry about. Grugan was the shining star and Clarke and McParland deserved longer on the pitch than some others. Dyas played well. We had had noone to win the dirty ball around the middle. Lavery was up against three men all the time. McEvoy in goals was poor, the goal seemed to shatter any confidence he had. Having said all that the quality of ball O'Rourke and Murtagh were getting was also poor.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 24, 2011, 10:46:04 AM
Congratulations to those who have put in the hard work on the new build in the Athletic Grounds. I was in the stand and it's a great job altogether.
Paul Duffy never was and never will be a corner back. He is very effective when he bombs forward but that has to be from wing back and somebody has to be covering back for him (probably Kieran Toner when he's in MF). That said he's ahead of AK at the minute for me. AK will have a job on his hands to get back into the team. I know it's early days but if Dyas and Grugan can continue to impress then the HB line would be made up of Duffy, McKeever and Dyas IMHO. AK was a certain starter because of his accuracy from right sided frees, Grugan looks like he may be able to do that for us.
As applesisapples has said I would've kept McParland on for longer as he had just scored a v good point when he was taken off, Murtagh shouldn't be there.
Michael O'Rourke is a very accurate forward but lacks the pace for a top inter county footballer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 24, 2011, 10:52:02 AM
Could we not try Dyas at corner back?

I think he'd be more diciplined defender than Duffy. & we don't seem to have anyone else bar Donaghy & Mallon! - I think Finn Mo will end up in the corner this year - again a better option here than Duffy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyMan on January 24, 2011, 11:02:00 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 24, 2011, 10:52:02 AM
Could we not try Dyas at corner back?

I think he'd be more diciplined defender than Duffy. & we don't seem to have anyone else bar Donaghy & Mallon! - I think Finn Mo will end up in the corner this year - again a better option here than Duffy.

I totally agree, Dyas is a great man marker and im sure he could cope well in corner back. Free duffy to play in HB letting him bomb down the field would be a great assist for Armagh as a midfielder can drop in for him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 24, 2011, 11:43:01 AM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 24, 2011, 10:52:02 AM
Could we not try Dyas at corner back?

I think he'd be more diciplined defender than Duffy. & we don't seem to have anyone else bar Donaghy & Mallon! - I think Finn Mo will end up in the corner this year - again a better option here than Duffy.

Moriarty has been a free machine any time he's played in the FB line. HB or nowhere for me.

Would definitely like to see what Dyas, and in time McKeown and/ or Morgan, can do back there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Aghdavoyle on January 24, 2011, 01:18:02 PM

Sorry lads, Dyas is not and never will be a corner back. It's just not in his make up. He's actually quite a loose half back now but he can improve that area no doubt.

It was striking on sunday that the biggest single factor in the game was Antrim's use of a permenant sweeper in o'neill from wing forward.

I can't believe the assessments that the half back line was good. it was awful for the most part. antrim gave our half back line the ball and challenged us to break them down. we couldn't. the only creative spark came from dyas but not enough. antrim wanted our half backs to carry the ball - apparently impressing - to slow the game down while they set up their trap further back. on top of that, all of antrim's scores came from pouring into the space our half back line conveniently vacated while pushing up.

Antrim's tactics are of 5 years ago but are obviously new to us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on January 24, 2011, 02:35:38 PM
I think James Morgan is our best hope for CB.
We're a bit light there at the minute.

I'm maybe being naive but I don't want to see us counteracting a defensive set up like Antrim's by flooding our own defence like we have done a lot in the past. If O'Rourke wants us to be a bit more offensive then I'm all for that. The personnel on the pitch yesterday will not be within an asses roar of what will be on it come the business end ( I counted 5 players that started championship last year, with 3 of them playing out of position and the other two (V Martin and M Mackin) hardly counted as mainstays of our team). Ciaran McKeever and Brendan Donaghy, in particular won't allow the same gaps in our defence that were in evidence yesterday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Hank Everlast on January 24, 2011, 03:27:07 PM
Personally I'd play mckeever in the fb line, to go man to man on our opponents dangerest forward. We seem to have an abundance of quality half back so taking him from that line shudnt be a problem.
Hearty
Mallon donaghy mckeever
Dyas Kernan Duffy McKenna moriarty (3 from this 5)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on January 24, 2011, 03:33:34 PM
lets be honest and ask our county manager why not try corner backs from clubs. whats the point in taking murtagh in when he cant even make the cross team and will be released shortly from the panel. andy and finn mo are the only two reconised corner backs in the panel. as for having micheal o rourke on the pitch and then not letting him take a free is staggering as this is his main attribute. the mc kenna cup is for trying players in positions we need to strenghen and outside young grugan, watters and mc parland we learned nothing. surely theres good corner backs in the county. duffy is a half back and proved yesterday thats wer he should play. i thought shorty clarke tried hard and young mc kenna tried but without having a clear understanding of his roll.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on January 24, 2011, 03:43:58 PM
 How  realistic is it to expect to see McKeown and Morgan get some League time at CB?  I'd consider them to be CBs in the purest sense.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on January 24, 2011, 03:57:39 PM
Quote from: mackers on January 24, 2011, 02:35:38 PM
I think James Morgan is our best hope for CB.
We're a bit light there at the minute.

I'm maybe being naive but I don't want to see us counteracting a defensive set up like Antrim's by flooding our own defence like we have done a lot in the past. If O'Rourke wants us to be a bit more offensive then I'm all for that. The personnel on the pitch yesterday will not be within an asses roar of what will be on it come the business end ( I counted 5 players that started championship last year, with 3 of them playing out of position and the other two (V Martin and M Mackin) hardly counted as mainstays of our team). Ciaran McKeever and Brendan Donaghy, in particular won't allow the same gaps in our defence that were in evidence yesterday.
I think you've hit the nail there mackers, altough I think you were harsh with you earlier assessment of AK.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on January 24, 2011, 09:36:22 PM
Great to see the Athletic Grounds looking good, the new stand is a fine addition.

I agree with the general sentiments here. Antrim look more up for it yesterday, the Armagh defence wasn't great but as Mackers said Ciaran McKeever and Brendan Donaghy would tighten things up a lot there. McEvoy hasn't made a great claim for the goalkeeper slot. Dyas is looking better all the time. Of the forwards Grugan again showed promise, Watters showed some potential at times.

Murtagh hadn't a good day, but some of the rants here that he couldn't get his place on Cross are misplaced as he isn't eligible to play for Cross in the AI championship. He may well play a role when the new season starts, although he hasn't made a strong claim for inclusion in the Armagh setup. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on January 24, 2011, 10:14:00 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 24, 2011, 12:40:42 AM
Under 21 Championship final - St Patrick's 0-8 Crossmaglen Rangers 2-8

The under 21 championship which commenced in April 2010 finally reached its conclusion on Sunday last however there was to be no fairytale ending for the Cullyhanna side who were defeated by a well drilled Crossmaglen outfit at Killeavy. After a somewhat tempestuous opening with tackles flying, it was Crossmaglen who drew first blood when a lobbing effort dropped beyond the reach of the St Pat's netminder for a goal. Despite this horrific opening, St Pat's soon responded and a foul on Tony Donnelly allowed Kieran Hoey to open the Cullyhanna scoring after 5 minutes. A minute later an inspirational run from full back Colm Hoey ended in a Crossmaglen player dragging the former county minor to the ground only for Robbie Tasker to strike the ball perfectly over the bar from all of 40 yards. Kieran Hoey and Jamie Clarke exchanged further frees to leave the score 1-1 to 0-3. After 17 minutes, St Pat's finally managed to supply Robbie Tasker with quality ball however he was immediately fouled on gaining possession. Kieran Hoey made no mistake with the resultant free kick to draw the sides level and Cullyhanna went ahead soon after from a Robbie Tasker free. Although Cullyhanna had managed to gain a stranglehold on the match at this stage, their dominance was soon broken as Cross swept forward in a bright attacking movement. Despite some dubious handpasses in the build-up, a penalty was awarded following a clear foul and Armagh star Jamie Clarke made no mistake in dispatching the ball to the net from 11 metres. Cross forged 3 ahead with a Jamie Clarke point but in  first half injury time, a Gary McCooey free kick found Tasker well. Unsurprisingly given what had been happening throughout the half, Robbie was again unceremiously fouled but dusted himself down to score the free.

With the halftime score standing at St Pat's 0-6 Crossmaglen 2-2, the Cullyhanna faithful had every right to feel that they were well in the match. Although the quality of the match had not been high, Cullyhanna had slightly the better of the exchanges but trailed due to the clinical manner in which Crossmaglen made each attack count.

As so often happens, the opening minutes of the second half were to prove crucial and it was in this period that Crossmaglen laid the foundations for their victory. In the 10 minutes following half-time the Rangers achieved almost total dominance of possession and displayed remarkable accuracy to kick 5 unanswered points, 2 of which were from play. Having extended their advantage to seven, Crossmaglen were never likely to falter and so it proved as Cullyhanna never really looked like reducing their deficit by a significant margin. However it might all have been so difficult had Kieran Hoey not seen his powerful shot ricochet off the Crossmaglen post following a superb driving run while there were only four points between the teams. To be fair to the St Pat's side, they did put their opponents under pressure in the final quarter however Crossmaglen defended superbly to ensure that their goal remained in tact. Two Robbie Tasker pointed frees were all Cullyhanna could muster in reply as Crossmaglen ran out worthy victors by 2-8 to 0-8 and we warmly congratulate them on their success.

Although this was not to be Cullyhanna's day, they can take pride in their efforts throughout the competition. Given the haphazard manner in which fixtures arrived it was difficult for the side to build up any momentum. While no doubt the entire team will be disappointed in the second half performance, Pearse Casey, Colm Hoey and Kieran Hoey can take great pride in their individual displays.

Starting XV: D McArdle; E McArdle, C Hoey, S O'Neill; G McCooey, N McShane, M Murray; G McCooey, P Casey; K Nugent, T Donnelly, K Hoey (0-3), T Donnelly, K Nugent; K McEvoy, R Tasker (0-5), R McMahon. Subs Used: K McCooey, A McCooey, R O'Neill

Such a biased report.
You would think the Cullyhanna boys were all angels. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Kid on January 24, 2011, 10:34:54 PM
AFS why could moriarty not play corner back? i agree with u that half back is his best position but as we saw in the league final last year he can do a great man marking duty when asked so I would be confident in him playing corner back more so than duffy or martin. Dyas said last week he feels far fitter this year than he did last year and that can only be good for armagh. I still think most of our problems come from midfield and not being able to gain enough primary possession, Toner is a shoe in but I havent seen anyone else ie vernon/mackin/lavery do enough consistently to be certain starters, although maybe david mckenna could be an option. On another note, does anyone know how far away ronan clarke is from playing?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 24, 2011, 10:37:13 PM
Quote from: crossfire on January 24, 2011, 10:14:00 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 24, 2011, 12:40:42 AM
Under 21 Championship final - St Patrick's 0-8 Crossmaglen Rangers 2-8

The under 21 championship which commenced in April 2010 finally reached its conclusion on Sunday last however there was to be no fairytale ending for the Cullyhanna side who were defeated by a well drilled Crossmaglen outfit at Killeavy. After a somewhat tempestuous opening with tackles flying, it was Crossmaglen who drew first blood when a lobbing effort dropped beyond the reach of the St Pat's netminder for a goal. Despite this horrific opening, St Pat's soon responded and a foul on Tony Donnelly allowed Kieran Hoey to open the Cullyhanna scoring after 5 minutes. A minute later an inspirational run from full back Colm Hoey ended in a Crossmaglen player dragging the former county minor to the ground only for Robbie Tasker to strike the ball perfectly over the bar from all of 40 yards. Kieran Hoey and Jamie Clarke exchanged further frees to leave the score 1-1 to 0-3. After 17 minutes, St Pat's finally managed to supply Robbie Tasker with quality ball however he was immediately fouled on gaining possession. Kieran Hoey made no mistake with the resultant free kick to draw the sides level and Cullyhanna went ahead soon after from a Robbie Tasker free. Although Cullyhanna had managed to gain a stranglehold on the match at this stage, their dominance was soon broken as Cross swept forward in a bright attacking movement. Despite some dubious handpasses in the build-up, a penalty was awarded following a clear foul and Armagh star Jamie Clarke made no mistake in dispatching the ball to the net from 11 metres. Cross forged 3 ahead with a Jamie Clarke point but in  first half injury time, a Gary McCooey free kick found Tasker well. Unsurprisingly given what had been happening throughout the half, Robbie was again unceremiously fouled but dusted himself down to score the free.

With the halftime score standing at St Pat's 0-6 Crossmaglen 2-2, the Cullyhanna faithful had every right to feel that they were well in the match. Although the quality of the match had not been high, Cullyhanna had slightly the better of the exchanges but trailed due to the clinical manner in which Crossmaglen made each attack count.

As so often happens, the opening minutes of the second half were to prove crucial and it was in this period that Crossmaglen laid the foundations for their victory. In the 10 minutes following half-time the Rangers achieved almost total dominance of possession and displayed remarkable accuracy to kick 5 unanswered points, 2 of which were from play. Having extended their advantage to seven, Crossmaglen were never likely to falter and so it proved as Cullyhanna never really looked like reducing their deficit by a significant margin. However it might all have been so difficult had Kieran Hoey not seen his powerful shot ricochet off the Crossmaglen post following a superb driving run while there were only four points between the teams. To be fair to the St Pat's side, they did put their opponents under pressure in the final quarter however Crossmaglen defended superbly to ensure that their goal remained in tact. Two Robbie Tasker pointed frees were all Cullyhanna could muster in reply as Crossmaglen ran out worthy victors by 2-8 to 0-8 and we warmly congratulate them on their success.

Although this was not to be Cullyhanna's day, they can take pride in their efforts throughout the competition. Given the haphazard manner in which fixtures arrived it was difficult for the side to build up any momentum. While no doubt the entire team will be disappointed in the second half performance, Pearse Casey, Colm Hoey and Kieran Hoey can take great pride in their individual displays.

Starting XV: D McArdle; E McArdle, C Hoey, S O'Neill; G McCooey, N McShane, M Murray; G McCooey, P Casey; K Nugent, T Donnelly, K Hoey (0-3), T Donnelly, K Nugent; K McEvoy, R Tasker (0-5), R McMahon. Subs Used: K McCooey, A McCooey, R O'Neill

Such a biased report.
You would think the Cullyhanna boys were all angels. ???

Club notes are, by their very definition, biased accounts. I'm happy to discuss any perceived inaccuracies.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on January 25, 2011, 09:11:55 AM
Quote from: The Kid on January 24, 2011, 10:34:54 PM
AFS why could moriarty not play corner back? i agree with u that half back is his best position but as we saw in the league final last year he can do a great man marking duty when asked so I would be confident in him playing corner back more so than duffy or martin. Dyas said last week he feels far fitter this year than he did last year and that can only be good for armagh. I still think most of our problems come from midfield and not being able to gain enough primary possession, Toner is a shoe in but I havent seen anyone else ie vernon/mackin/lavery do enough consistently to be certain starters, although maybe david mckenna could be an option. On another note, does anyone know how far away ronan clarke is from playing?

He played there quite a lot under McDonnell and the consensus was that he wasn't very good. Barry Shannon edged him out eventually. Maybe he's worth another go, not a massive fan of Duffy and Martin back there either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 25, 2011, 11:01:31 AM
Please note that the NFL Match v Dublin on Saturday 5th February 2011, will be an all ticket game.
the tickets are divdied into 3 sections Seated Stand , Terrace and Juvenile
(Please note the Juvenile tickets for the seated stand will be in specific areas only)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 25, 2011, 03:13:30 PM
Quote from: illdecide on January 25, 2011, 11:01:31 AM
Please note that the NFL Match v Dublin on Saturday 5th February 2011, will be an all ticket game.
the tickets are divdied into 3 sections Seated Stand , Terrace and Juvenile
(Please note the Juvenile tickets for the seated stand will be in specific areas only)

Emails were sent late last night wanting clubs to know their requested allocation by Friday night.

How long have the County Board known about this fixture?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Kid on January 25, 2011, 07:48:35 PM
What way does the season ticket work for the dublin game? Can I still get a seat in the stand?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on January 25, 2011, 10:20:57 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 24, 2011, 10:37:13 PM
Quote from: crossfire on January 24, 2011, 10:14:00 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 24, 2011, 12:40:42 AM
Under 21 Championship final - St Patrick's 0-8 Crossmaglen Rangers 2-8

The under 21 championship which commenced in April 2010 finally reached its conclusion on Sunday last however there was to be no fairytale ending for the Cullyhanna side who were defeated by a well drilled Crossmaglen outfit at Killeavy. After a somewhat tempestuous opening with tackles flying, it was Crossmaglen who drew first blood when a lobbing effort dropped beyond the reach of the St Pat's netminder for a goal. Despite this horrific opening, St Pat's soon responded and a foul on Tony Donnelly allowed Kieran Hoey to open the Cullyhanna scoring after 5 minutes. A minute later an inspirational run from full back Colm Hoey ended in a Crossmaglen player dragging the former county minor to the ground only for Robbie Tasker to strike the ball perfectly over the bar from all of 40 yards. Kieran Hoey and Jamie Clarke exchanged further frees to leave the score 1-1 to 0-3. After 17 minutes, St Pat's finally managed to supply Robbie Tasker with quality ball however he was immediately fouled on gaining possession. Kieran Hoey made no mistake with the resultant free kick to draw the sides level and Cullyhanna went ahead soon after from a Robbie Tasker free. Although Cullyhanna had managed to gain a stranglehold on the match at this stage, their dominance was soon broken as Cross swept forward in a bright attacking movement. Despite some dubious handpasses in the build-up, a penalty was awarded following a clear foul and Armagh star Jamie Clarke made no mistake in dispatching the ball to the net from 11 metres. Cross forged 3 ahead with a Jamie Clarke point but in  first half injury time, a Gary McCooey free kick found Tasker well. Unsurprisingly given what had been happening throughout the half, Robbie was again unceremiously fouled but dusted himself down to score the free.

With the halftime score standing at St Pat's 0-6 Crossmaglen 2-2, the Cullyhanna faithful had every right to feel that they were well in the match. Although the quality of the match had not been high, Cullyhanna had slightly the better of the exchanges but trailed due to the clinical manner in which Crossmaglen made each attack count.

As so often happens, the opening minutes of the second half were to prove crucial and it was in this period that Crossmaglen laid the foundations for their victory. In the 10 minutes following half-time the Rangers achieved almost total dominance of possession and displayed remarkable accuracy to kick 5 unanswered points, 2 of which were from play. Having extended their advantage to seven, Crossmaglen were never likely to falter and so it proved as Cullyhanna never really looked like reducing their deficit by a significant margin. However it might all have been so difficult had Kieran Hoey not seen his powerful shot ricochet off the Crossmaglen post following a superb driving run while there were only four points between the teams. To be fair to the St Pat's side, they did put their opponents under pressure in the final quarter however Crossmaglen defended superbly to ensure that their goal remained in tact. Two Robbie Tasker pointed frees were all Cullyhanna could muster in reply as Crossmaglen ran out worthy victors by 2-8 to 0-8 and we warmly congratulate them on their success.

Although this was not to be Cullyhanna's day, they can take pride in their efforts throughout the competition. Given the haphazard manner in which fixtures arrived it was difficult for the side to build up any momentum. While no doubt the entire team will be disappointed in the second half performance, Pearse Casey, Colm Hoey and Kieran Hoey can take great pride in their individual displays.

Starting XV: D McArdle; E McArdle, C Hoey, S O'Neill; G McCooey, N McShane, M Murray; G McCooey, P Casey; K Nugent, T Donnelly, K Hoey (0-3), T Donnelly, K Nugent; K McEvoy, R Tasker (0-5), R McMahon. Subs Used: K McCooey, A McCooey, R O'Neill

Such a biased report.
You would think the Cullyhanna boys were all angels. ???

Club notes are, by their very definition, biased accounts. I'm happy to discuss any perceived inaccuracies.

Please accept my apologies for not realising that you were posting the Cullyhanna notes on this forum.
As club notes are usually posted on a clubs own site you will understand why i thought you were posting a match report for the benefit of gaa board members.  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 26, 2011, 08:09:13 AM
Quote from: The Kid on January 25, 2011, 07:48:35 PM
What way does the season ticket work for the dublin game? Can I still get a seat in the stand?

All season ticket holders are guaranteed seats in the stand yes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 26, 2011, 03:50:27 PM
Is the Armagh game still on tonight?

what time?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: usa07 on January 26, 2011, 10:04:44 PM
what was the armagh team tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyMan on January 27, 2011, 09:52:00 AM
St Marys 1-16 Armagh 2-7

1. Mccullaugh
2. Martin
3. Toner
4. McKenna
5. Duffy
6. Dyas
7. Feeney
8. Lavery
9. Vernon
10. Grugan
11. Watters
12. Anto Duffy
13. Murtagh
14. Nippy swift
15. Stevie
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: handocommando on January 27, 2011, 05:07:19 PM
Pics of the changing rooms in the Athletic grounds prob as close as any of us will ever get !!
http://www.armatile.com/gallery/6/sport-and-leisure.aspx
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on January 27, 2011, 06:24:33 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 26, 2011, 08:09:13 AM
Quote from: The Kid on January 25, 2011, 07:48:35 PM
What way does the season ticket work for the dublin game? Can I still get a seat in the stand?

All season ticket holders are guaranteed seats in the stand yes.

Not so:

A chara
Following consultation with ticket staff in Croke Park it has been
decided that the cost of tickets for the Armagh v Dublin NFL game will
be €13 or £11 for all parts of the ground.
There will also be Juvenile tickets available priced as follows €5 or
£4. There will be concessions for pensioners but no prices have been
agreed as of yet.
As a result it was agreed that tickets will only guarantee entry into
the ground after that it's first come first served.
Therefore to allow clubs extra time to collect requests from members
the deadline for placing of orders is extended to Sunday at 6pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 27, 2011, 07:14:50 PM
So a season ticket doesn't guarantee you every game?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on January 27, 2011, 07:42:20 PM
QuoteSo a season ticket doesn't guarantee you every game?

A season ticket does guarantee you every game, but does it get you a seat?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagho9 on January 27, 2011, 07:58:20 PM
Quote from: handocommando on January 27, 2011, 05:07:19 PM
Pics of the changing rooms in the Athletic grounds prob as close as any of us will ever get !!
http://www.armatile.com/gallery/6/sport-and-leisure.aspx

A bit of advertising there for Armatile? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on January 27, 2011, 09:03:47 PM
Quote from: handocommando on January 27, 2011, 05:07:19 PM
Pics of the changing rooms in the Athletic grounds prob as close as any of us will ever get !!
http://www.armatile.com/gallery/6/sport-and-leisure.aspx


Why so?? Sure all championship games will be there now...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: deargdoom on January 27, 2011, 09:09:18 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on January 27, 2011, 09:03:47 PM
Why so?? Sure all championship games will be there now...

In the changing rooms??  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: handocommando on January 28, 2011, 09:06:42 AM
Quote from: armagho9 on January 27, 2011, 07:58:20 PM
Quote from: handocommando on January 27, 2011, 05:07:19 PM
Pics of the changing rooms in the Athletic grounds prob as close as any of us will ever get !!
http://www.armatile.com/gallery/6/sport-and-leisure.aspx

A bit of advertising there for Armatile? ;)


Shameless I know...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on January 28, 2011, 09:17:02 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on January 27, 2011, 06:24:33 PM
Quote from: Goats Do Shave on January 26, 2011, 08:09:13 AM
Quote from: The Kid on January 25, 2011, 07:48:35 PM
What way does the season ticket work for the dublin game? Can I still get a seat in the stand?

All season ticket holders are guaranteed seats in the stand yes.

Not so:

A chara
Following consultation with ticket staff in Croke Park it has been
decided that the cost of tickets for the Armagh v Dublin NFL game will
be €13 or £11 for all parts of the ground.
There will also be Juvenile tickets available priced as follows €5 or
£4. There will be concessions for pensioners but no prices have been
agreed as of yet.
As a result it was agreed that tickets will only guarantee entry into
the ground after that it's first come first served.
Therefore to allow clubs extra time to collect requests from members
the deadline for placing of orders is extended to Sunday at 6pm

Well... when seats are reserved by tickets they're supposed to... it will in Croke Park (ah Croke Park, maybe a few years till we're back!)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on January 29, 2011, 06:16:22 PM
Quote from: deargdoom on January 27, 2011, 09:09:18 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on January 27, 2011, 09:03:47 PM
Why so?? Sure all championship games will be there now...

In the changing rooms??  ;)


No hillbilly boy - some teams are actually not changing on the pitch before matches thesedays. I would imagine this will be the case for championship games, and I would also imagine that the lads will be able to see the changing rooms that they are changing in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on January 29, 2011, 06:19:13 PM
Here is another rant by a Cullyhanna man (in the Newry Democrat) about Crossmaglen tactics in the under 21 final.

The irony of Cullyhanna complaining about overzealous tackles!

http://www.newrydemocrat.com/articles/sports/18782/rangers-once-again/ (http://www.newrydemocrat.com/articles/sports/18782/rangers-once-again/)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armagho9 on January 29, 2011, 06:27:18 PM
Quote from: handocommando on January 28, 2011, 09:06:42 AM
Quote from: armagho9 on January 27, 2011, 07:58:20 PM
Quote from: handocommando on January 27, 2011, 05:07:19 PM
Pics of the changing rooms in the Athletic grounds prob as close as any of us will ever get !!
http://www.armatile.com/gallery/6/sport-and-leisure.aspx

A bit of advertising there for Armatile? ;)


Shameless I know...

They should have went to Citytiles
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 29, 2011, 07:45:27 PM
Quote from: crossfire on January 29, 2011, 06:19:13 PM
Here is another rant by a Cullyhanna man (in the Newry Democrat) about Crossmaglen tactics in the under 21 final.

The irony of Cullyhanna complaining about overzealous tackles!

http://www.newrydemocrat.com/articles/sports/18782/rangers-once-again/ (http://www.newrydemocrat.com/articles/sports/18782/rangers-once-again/)

Its accurate analysis rather than complaint. In both the senior championship replay and the under 21 final, Crossmaglen have take to the field with the single-minded tactic of fouling Robbie Tasker as soon as possible after he gets the ball. There is no doubt about that. That is of course their prerogative and they could well argue that given the results of both matches, the ends justify the means.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on January 30, 2011, 12:42:36 PM
To me TAC that is pure speculation as we haven't actually been in the crossmaglen changing rooms and heard the words go out and give tasker the treatment. However over the years i have witnessed certain synical tactics from cross and when you are writing an independent report on games expressing your views i feel you are quite right in expressing your opinions on the matter even though they may be slightly biased.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: alba2 on January 30, 2011, 06:47:54 PM
What will the team be os sat night lads?????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on January 30, 2011, 08:24:23 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 29, 2011, 07:45:27 PM
Quote from: crossfire on January 29, 2011, 06:19:13 PM
Here is another rant by a Cullyhanna man (in the Newry Democrat) about Crossmaglen tactics in the under 21 final.

The irony of Cullyhanna complaining about overzealous tackles!

http://www.newrydemocrat.com/articles/sports/18782/rangers-once-again/ (http://www.newrydemocrat.com/articles/sports/18782/rangers-once-again/)

Its accurate analysis rather than complaint. In both the senior championship replay and the under 21 final, Crossmaglen have take to the field with the single-minded tactic of fouling Robbie Tasker as soon as possible after he gets the ball. There is no doubt about that. That is of course their prerogative and they could well argue that given the results of both matches, the ends justify the means.

Jaysus that was nearly 4 months ago.

Have you not got over that beating yet. ???

Your own tactics used to try and contain Jamie in the drawn game were very questionable.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 30, 2011, 08:33:48 PM
The fact that you reply with infantile insults rather than any denial of the truth of my comments speaks volumes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on January 31, 2011, 06:58:10 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 30, 2011, 08:33:48 PM
The fact that you reply with infantile insults rather than any denial of the truth of my comments speaks volumes.

Your comments about our tactics are so ridiculous that they do not merit a reply.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: new devil on January 31, 2011, 10:06:29 PM
How did Johnny Murtagh play for Armagh in the McKenna cup games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 31, 2011, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: new devil on January 31, 2011, 10:06:29 PM
How did Johnny Murtagh play for Armagh in the McKenna cup games?

I wasn't at the St Mary's match but he showed nothing against Antrim to suggest he's a viable intercounty option.

Quote from: winsamsoon on January 30, 2011, 12:42:36 PM
To me TAC that is pure speculation as we haven't actually been in the crossmaglen changing rooms and heard the words go out and give tasker the treatment. However over the years i have witnessed certain synical tactics from cross and when you are writing an independent report on games expressing your views i feel you are quite right in expressing your opinions on the matter even though they may be slightly biased.

To be honest winsamsoon I don't consider them independent reports. They are club notes, primarily for our own club members though obviously anybody who buys the Examiner or Observer can read them. Naturally they focus on our own team's performance but I feel fully entitled to express genuinely held opinions and analysis on our matches. I rarely criticise too many in my reports but when I do its because I feel its merited.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: new devil on February 01, 2011, 03:18:57 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on January 31, 2011, 10:49:44 PM
Quote from: new devil on January 31, 2011, 10:06:29 PM
How did Johnny Murtagh play for Armagh in the McKenna cup games?

I wasn't at the St Mary's match but he showed nothing against Antrim to suggest he's a viable intercounty option.

Quote from: winsamsoon on January 30, 2011, 12:42:36 PM
To me TAC that is pure speculation as we haven't actually been in the crossmaglen changing rooms and heard the words go out and give tasker the treatment. However over the years i have witnessed certain synical tactics from cross and when you are writing an independent report on games expressing your views i feel you are quite right in expressing your opinions on the matter even though they may be slightly biased.

To be honest winsamsoon I don't consider them independent reports. They are club notes, primarily for our own club members though obviously anybody who buys the Examiner or Observer can read them. Naturally they focus on our own team's performance but I feel fully entitled to express genuinely held opinions and analysis on our matches. I rarely criticise too many in my reports but when I do its because I feel its merited.

Yea didn't think he would cut it at county level...He didn't really stand out much here in NY and its like div2 football lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: user 2011 on February 01, 2011, 10:21:09 AM
word has it Silverbridge have moved their £100,000 draw back from the 17th Match due to ticket sales not covering the prize fund yet.  don't think they are even half way there.

not a very good idea in the middle of a recession to run such a big draw 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 01, 2011, 12:04:23 PM
Quote from: user 2011 on February 01, 2011, 10:21:09 AM
word has it Silverbridge have moved their £100,000 draw back from the 17th Match due to ticket sales not covering the prize fund yet.  don't think they are even half way there.

not a very good idea in the middle of a recession to run such a big draw

Very ambitious yes but at least those responsible are out doing something productive for their club rather than sniping on an internet message board.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on February 02, 2011, 01:03:16 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 01, 2011, 12:04:23 PM
Quote from: user 2011 on February 01, 2011, 10:21:09 AM
word has it Silverbridge have moved their £100,000 draw back from the 17th Match due to ticket sales not covering the prize fund yet.  don't think they are even half way there.

not a very good idea in the middle of a recession to run such a big draw

Very ambitious yes but at least those responsible are out doing something productive for their club rather than sniping on an internet message board.

Well said, I was wondering why someone would be on questioning their own club's fundraising. First post and everything, looks a bit suspect!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: user 2011 on February 02, 2011, 10:28:35 AM
while its my club i don't think there is any harm in questioning the methods that they use to fundraise.  some say this was an ambitious plan but many would call it plain stupid to attempt to run such a draw.  lets face it 30 to 40,000 would have sold as many tickets as 100k draw.  if this draw lasts 2 years its hard to start another fundraising project so they are stuck with it for the long haul, out and about begging.
In the past they have been renowned for the fundraising and hats off but they got it wrong this time.
btw i say they because it's not like most other clubs, its not everyone thats welcome within it anymore so i'll not be trying to sell tickets for them. although i once would have tried.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on February 02, 2011, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: user 2011 on February 02, 2011, 10:28:35 AM
while its my club i don't think there is any harm in questioning the methods that they use to fundraise.  some say this was an ambitious plan but many would call it plain stupid to attempt to run such a draw.  lets face it 30 to 40,000 would have sold as many tickets as 100k draw.  if this draw lasts 2 years its hard to start another fundraising project so they are stuck with it for the long haul, out and about begging.
In the past they have been renowned for the fundraising and hats off but they got it wrong this time.
btw i say they because it's not like most other clubs, its not everyone thats welcome within it anymore so i'll not be trying to sell tickets for them. although i once would have tried.

Do you really think that criticising under an anonymous name on an Internet chat forum will make a difference.  If you have an issue take it to the committee or if you feel you can't do it yourself have a club mate do it. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ardal on February 03, 2011, 10:52:21 PM
Free publicity, now we all want to prove him wrong and that the draw will be a succcess. Not a bad marketing ploy at all eh? Well done 2011
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on February 06, 2011, 12:17:32 AM
user 2011, everyone is welcome at the "bridge". If you choose not to help then it's for your own personal reasons.You can of course buy your ticket online   www.winonehundredthousand.ie

The very best of luck in the draw.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: user 2011 on February 08, 2011, 10:28:21 AM
personal reasons ?  seems then that alot of people around the club have 'personal reasons' not to help or buy, i wonder why ? there has to be some common reason and it can't be just the 20 pound.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downjim on February 08, 2011, 05:28:14 PM
Whats Kevin O'Rourke like as a player.. Rumour in Down is that he is living in Mayobridge and lining out for them next year!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on February 08, 2011, 06:57:26 PM
kevin is no bad player. Will be a useful addition to any team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 09, 2011, 11:17:53 PM
Championship fixtures announced. SFC matches on a Monday night  :-\

Armagh "Simply Fruit.com" Football Championships 2011

Senior Football Championship

Round 1            Venue         Date      Time

Carrickcruppen v  Clann na Gael    Athletic Grounds   12th August   7.30pm
Clann Eireann      v  Crossmaglen   Athletic Grounds   13th August   6pm
Armagh Harps   v  Mullaghbawn   Cullyhanna      14th August   2pm
Granemore     v  St.Michaels   Keady         14th August   4pm
Dromintee      v  Pearse Og      Athletic Grounds   14th August   6pm
Maghery      v  Sarsfields      Clann Eireann      15th August   7pm
St.Patricks     v  Whitecross      Athletic Grounds   15th August   8pm

Bye;  Ballymacnab

Round 2   Dates       2nd/3rd/5th September
Semi-Finals   Dates      24th/25th September
Final      Date      16th October

Intermediate Football Championship

Round 1            Venue         Date      Time

St.Peters   v  Silverbridge      Athletic Grounds   5th August   7.30pm
Killeavy   v  Middletown    Athletic Grounds   6th August   6pm
Culloville    v  Grange      Keady         6th August   6pm
Keady      v  Shane O'Neills   Whitecross      7th August   2pm
An Port Mor     v  Wolfe Tones   Portadown      7th August    4pm
Collegeland   v  Madden       Athletic Grounds   7th August   6pm
St.Pauls    v  Tir na nOg      St.Peters Park      8th August   7.30pm

Bye;  Ballyhegan

Round 2   Dates       24th/26th/27th/29th August
Semi-Finals   Dates      14th/16th September
Final      Date      2nd October

Junior Football Championship

Pre-Round            Venue         Date      Time

Crossmaglen II  v  Killean      Mullaghbrack      22nd July   7.30pm
Forkhill     v  Mullabrack      Lissummon      24th July   2pm
Annaghmore      v  Clonmore      Athletic Grounds   24th July   6pm

Round 1            Venue         Date      Time

Eire Og      v  Tullysaran      Ballyhegan      29th July   7.30pm
Dromintee II    v  O'Hanlons      Killeavy      29th July   7.30pm
Belleek      v  St.Patricks II      Carrickcruppen   29th July   7.30pm
Corrinshego   v  Phelim Bradys   Dorsey         30th July   7.30pm
Clady      v Dorsey Emmets   Whitecross      1st August   7.30pm
Lissummon   v Forkhill/Mullabrack   Dromintee      3rd August   7.30pm
Derrynoose   v Annaghmore/Clonmore  Pearse Og Park   3rd August   7.30pm
Killeavy II   v Crossmaglen II/Killean Cullyhanna      3rd August   7.30pm

Round 2   Dates       19th/29th/21st August
Semi-Finals   Dates      9th/10th/11th September
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on February 10, 2011, 06:12:25 PM
Why are the county board so opposed to double headers?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on February 10, 2011, 08:48:41 PM
UNDER 21 PANEL:

annaghmore, m mcneice, o mckeever
bmcnab, grugan,mcparland
cruppen, j mccullough, p mccullough, d monaghan
clans, s campbell, p mckenna
clonmore, j grimley
cross, j morgan
cullaville, n rowland
granemore, c rafferty, r rafferty
harps, d mckenna
killeavey, j donnell, c downey, c king
maghery, d lavery, k nugent, a forker
mbawn, e mcverry
ogs, a duffy
sarsfields, t mcalinden
cullyhanna, m murray, e mcardle
st pauls, k toman, a murnin
st peters, n mcconville
sbridge, p carragher
tsaran, b kelly
wolfe tone, j mccarron
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Skiddybadoo on February 10, 2011, 11:14:02 PM
No Tasker on the u-21 panel?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 11, 2011, 01:21:48 AM
Is that the final under 21 squad??? surely there will be more cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 11, 2011, 10:14:27 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 11, 2011, 01:21:48 AM
Is that the final under 21 squad??? surely there will be more cross

No sir, that's it. A few surprise exclusions from a few south armagh clubs...North Armagh manager ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 11, 2011, 12:16:22 PM
It seems a strong enough squad on paper. Won't be a bad thing to shake things up a bit with a mixture of a lot of clubs. But i just hope with the North Armagh man at the helm he hasn't overlooked certain players based on regional placement. I wouldn't advocate that as i have complained in the past as this biased has been noticeable  IMO from certain south Armagh managers towards North Armagh players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on February 11, 2011, 12:44:38 PM
Three starters from last year's under 21 team not even retained on this year's panel as far as I can make out. This is a bit odd.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on February 11, 2011, 02:43:55 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 10, 2011, 06:12:25 PM
Why are the county board so opposed to double headers?

Doesn't generate the same revenue as two stand alone fixtures.

Of course, it's more important to maximize attendance at all games and to generate atmosphere if you are concerned about promoting armagh football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on February 12, 2011, 09:00:02 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 11, 2011, 12:16:22 PM
It seems a strong enough squad on paper. Won't be a bad thing to shake things up a bit with a mixture of a lot of clubs. But i just hope with the North Armagh man at the helm he hasn't overlooked certain players based on regional placement. I wouldn't advocate that as i have complained in the past as this biased has been noticeable  IMO from certain south Armagh managers towards North Armagh players.
Get over yourselves, Armagh doesn't stop at Poyntzpass, no matter what Tony Fearon says!! :D You all seem to forget that this North Armagh man built the team that won sam in 02 for joe. He and POR seem to have a good understanding when it comes to players being used in Senior and U21 squads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 12, 2011, 04:19:56 PM
This arguement of people building teams for future success is a load of bollix and is only another excuse for failure (talking about senior level), The arguemnt can only be used if this is your intention from the start. when the lad in question was running Armagh his aim wasn't to prepare the team for 3 or 4 years down the line it was to achieve there and then or at least in the short time these guys were in charge. They didn't do this, therefore they underachieved so stop trying to turn failure round as if it was planned .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on February 12, 2011, 08:03:45 PM
Quote
Doesn't generate the same revenue as two stand alone fixtures.

Use the Athletic grounds and charge more for the stand than the terrace, and it might generate the same revenue, and have decent crowds.

QuoteArmagh doesn't stop at Poyntzpass, no matter what Tony Fearon says!!

it does, if you head down over the canal!  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on February 12, 2011, 09:06:06 PM
plus more neutrals would go to a double header for say £10 than a standalone fixture at £7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on February 12, 2011, 09:21:01 PM

You are both right on the double headers but that's not how the county board thinks.

At least they have made some progress... championship matches on at the same time seem to be a thing of the past.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on February 13, 2011, 09:41:35 PM
Frank Kernan who was right half back on the 1953 team has died.

Frank also played on the successful 1949 minor team and up to 2009 was the only Cross man to hold an all Ireland minor medal.

May he rest in peace.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on February 14, 2011, 08:40:01 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 12, 2011, 04:19:56 PM
This arguement of people building teams for future success is a load of bollix and is only another excuse for failure (talking about senior level), The arguemnt can only be used if this is your intention from the start. when the lad in question was running Armagh his aim wasn't to prepare the team for 3 or 4 years down the line it was to achieve there and then or at least in the short time these guys were in charge. They didn't do this, therefore they underachieved so stop trying to turn failure round as if it was planned .
You are the one talking bollix and your obvious bias is showing quite clearly. The two Brians made the best of what talent was available winning back to back Ulsters and were unlucky not to have gone all the way. At no stage did I say that they were building for the future. What they brought to Armagh was a structure and a training regime that had been missing. Ask any one who played under them. Brian McAlinden was not universally like by the players but was respected for what he had done. I'm not taking away from Joe Kernan but he brought an element of luck in 02 that we didn't get before and some might argue since. As an Armagh fan first and foremost I get sick of this North/South split...One county one team. I also think the failure of other Clubs to get behind Cross is another example of short sightedness.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 15, 2011, 05:10:47 PM
You did clearly imply that they were building for the future when you said that they done the ground work for the team that won the all Ireland. It is easy to say this afterwards but it is only an excuse for underachieving and trying to take a positive out of a negative. This argument doesn't hold any water IMO as Kernan came in with his own background team and setup and it was his influence on the team and the attitudes of the players that won the All Ireland in 02' it was nothing to do with what had gone before.

The fact is that the Armagh team under the two Brians and under Kernan did not win as much as they should have. That is nothing to do with opposition or luck. Look at Tyrone, a team that never won half as many Ulster titles as Armagh in the last decade but compare their number of All Ireland titles.  Previous to the last two years Armagh was in the mix up for All Ireland honours for a decade, winning one title was an under achievement . I remember many of occasions were the management made the wrong decisions regarding subs ie Ger Houlahan coming on as a done man, Mc Geeney our rock being taken off in Croke handing the incentive to Tyrone, starting players when other things had gone wrong prior to the kick off ie Mc Conville starting and staying on for so long after the sad loss of his father . Of course these things are only my opinion but the bottom line is Armagh underachieved so the two Brians argument is wearing thin and holds no credibiltiy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on February 15, 2011, 07:37:08 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on February 15, 2011, 05:10:47 PM
You did clearly imply that they were building for the future when you said that they done the ground work for the team that won the all Ireland. It is easy to say this afterwards but it is only an excuse for underachieving and trying to take a positive out of a negative. This argument doesn't hold any water IMO as Kernan came in with his own background team and setup and it was his influence on the team and the attitudes of the players that won the All Ireland in 02' it was nothing to do with what had gone before.

The fact is that the Armagh team under the two Brians and under Kernan did not win as much as they should have. That is nothing to do with opposition or luck. Look at Tyrone, a team that never won half as many Ulster titles as Armagh in the last decade but compare their number of All Ireland titles.  Previous to the last two years Armagh was in the mix up for All Ireland honours for a decade, winning one title was an under achievement . I remember many of occasions were the management made the wrong decisions regarding subs ie Ger Houlahan coming on as a done man, Mc Geeney our rock being taken off in Croke handing the incentive to Tyrone, starting players when other things had gone wrong prior to the kick off ie Mc Conville starting and staying on for so long after the sad loss of his father . Of course these things are only my opinion but the bottom line is Armagh underachieved so the two Brians argument is wearing thin and holds no credibiltiy

Despite the All Ireland succes, I feel Armagh underachieved under Big Joe. The two Brians came in after Armagh had been hammered by Derry and built an Ulster Championship winning team. They brought a winning mentality to the table and the belief that they just had to make the final leap. Joe to his credit put the finishing touches to that team. Would Armagh have the All Ireland if Joe had to build from scratch?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on February 15, 2011, 07:46:48 PM
Armagh underachieved in their peak period. But I think people are a bit hard on managers in this regard. Both the Brians and big Joe brought us within reach of success, too many people are inclined to forget the 99% and concentrate on the 1% they feel to be missing. We should have been in the AI final in 2000 and 2005, any one of a dozen incidents in these games could have made the difference. But nobody says that we didn't succeed because a particular player dropped one ball or miss hit one pass, it is all in the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on February 16, 2011, 09:03:01 AM
I agree with the last two assessments. We could have won more but given what passed for an Armagh team from the mid eighties until the two Brians came on the scene we should be grateful to both the Brians and Big Joe. The point I really set out to make is we should not view County teams as North or South but simply Armagh. Even some of the attitudes to Cross display a short sightedness driven by petty Jealousy... One County One Team.... or Mes Que Un Club as they would say in Barcalona.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 16, 2011, 11:34:20 AM
Quote from: Applesisapples on February 16, 2011, 09:03:01 AM
I agree with the last two assessments. We could have won more but given what passed for an Armagh team from the mid eighties until the two Brians came on the scene we should be grateful to both the Brians and Big Joe. The point I really set out to make is we should not view County teams as North or South but simply Armagh. Even some of the attitudes to Cross display a short sightedness driven by petty Jealousy... One County One Team.... or Mes Que Un Club as they would say in Barcalona.

I don't know where that place is but i think i get what you're trying to say ;).
I don't care less who is putting the ball over the bar or into the back of the net as long as he's wearing the Armagh jersey it doesn't matter to me if he's from Crossmaglen, Og's or the Clans etc, as for Crossmaglen i would love to see them beat in Armagh (for a change if nothing else) but whenever they represent Armagh in Ulster and the All Ireland then they have and will get my support. All Armagh clubs should aspire to be where Cross are, you will always get a bit of jealousy between clubs and thats natural.

As for the north/mid/south divide, it will always be there regarding club football and thats the way it is. County football is different and there should be no divide there as the best players should represent the county no matter where they're from but do managers in that position show more loyalty to their club men or guys in their area???? For once I'll let you guys decide :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on February 19, 2011, 01:25:53 PM
I think the whole North/South rivalry is good, it's common in most counties and brings an extra edge to a lot of games. That said, the conspiracy theories get a bit tiring but are inevitable especially where county teams are concerned.

It should be all of us v the county board - useless heures!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PAULD123 on February 22, 2011, 01:56:07 PM
I was in Croke park in 1999 I think Armagh would have won the championship that year under the two Brian's if they had beaten Meath. But the Brian's panicked and made terrible decisions. For a start putting Donaldson into the team when he clearly didn't belong there and then failing to take of Reid when he was obviously heading for a double booking.

So the question is, with more time would they have learned and finally got it right? I have to say I don't think so. Unlike James McCartan they are not new to management, they already had considerable experience. I think they reached their zenith that day.

As for building the team that finally won the title. Well yes, they improved the attitude and fitness. They brought in a lot of young players that in earlier years may have been overlooked as Armagh managers had previously not been inspired to play younger lighter lads. They did leave Joe with a solid platform to work from. But in truth they did not leave a winning team behind, they left a squad that was defeated and uncertain. So in fact they can not really be accredited with the final leap to national champions, without Joe that would probably never have happened.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mousey on February 23, 2011, 10:12:02 AM
Harps men did a guy michael mckenna ever play for your seniors or is currently playing for them?? what sort of player is he ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on February 27, 2011, 09:44:49 PM
Fair play to cross. No matter what is thrown at them lads they will fight to the death. A must win all Ireland
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on March 03, 2011, 07:53:56 PM
word has it that this will be oisin's last game . how apt that if this is so that it's in croke park where armagh ignored him against wexford.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 03, 2011, 10:55:30 PM
Quote from: twotwocharlie on March 03, 2011, 07:53:56 PM
word has it that this will be oisin's last game . how apt that if this is so that it's in croke park where he absolutely lorded it, winning AI titles with club and county.
x2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on March 03, 2011, 11:25:20 PM
Quote from: Skiddybadoo on February 10, 2011, 11:14:02 PM
No Tasker on the u-21 panel?
tasker for new york,,
u will prob see him in action against roscommon in the conaught championship..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: new devil on March 05, 2011, 03:30:08 AM
Who's tasker and who's he going to play for in New York?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 07, 2011, 10:21:38 PM
ACL Division 1 Fixtures 2011
.by Official Armagh GAA on Monday, March 7, 2011 at 9:23pm.Division 1      17/4/2011

Round 1

Granemore  V Maghery

Pearse Og  V Droim an Tí

Clan na Gael  V Ballymacnab

Culloville Blues V St Patrick's Cullyhanna

Sarsfields  V Crossmaglen Rangers

Carrickcruppen V Whitecross

Division 1        20/4/2011

Round 2

Crossmaglen Rangers V Culloville Blues

Whitecross V Clan na Gael

Droim an Tí V Sarsfields

Maghery  V Pearse Og

Crossmaglen Rangers V Carrickcruppen

St Patrick's Cullyhanna V Granemore

Division 1       27/4/2011

Round 3

Culloville Blues V Clan na Gael

Carrickcruppen V Droim an Tí

Pearse Og  V St Patrick's Cullyhanna

Sarsfields  V Maghery

Granemore  V Ballymacnab

Crossmaglen Rangers V Whitecross

Division 1       1/5/2011

Round 4

Ballymacnab V Pearse Og

Droim an Tí V Crossmaglen Rangers

St Patrick's Cullyhanna V Sarsfields

Clan na Gael  V Granemore

Maghery  V Carrickcruppen

Whitecross V Culloville Blues

Division 1      8/5/2011

Round 5

Granemore  V Culloville Blues

Crossmaglen Rangers V Maghery

Pearse Og  V Clan na Gael

Sarsfields  V Ballymacnab

Carrickcruppen V St Patrick's Cullyhanna

Droim an Tí V Whitecross

Division 1      15/5/2011

Round 6

Culloville Blues V Pearse Og

Clan na Gael  V Sarsfields

Whitecross V Granemore

St Patrick's Cullyhanna V Crossmaglen Rangers

Ballymacnab V Carrickcruppen

Maghery  V Droim an Tí

Division 1      22/5/2011

Round 7

Crossmaglen Rangers V Ballymacnab

Maghery  V Whitecross

Droim an Tí V St Patrick's Cullyhanna

Pearse Og  V Granemore

Carrickcruppen V Clan na Gael

Sarsfields  V Culloville Blues

Division 1      29/5/2011

Round 8

Whitecross V Pearse Og

Clan na Gael  V Crossmaglen Rangers

Culloville Blues V Carrickcruppen

St Patrick's Cullyhanna V Maghery

Granemore  V Sarsfields

Ballymacnab V Droim an Tí

Division 1      1/6/2011

Round 9

Droim an Tí V Clan na Gael

Maghery  V Ballymacnab

Sarsfields  V Pearse Og

St Patrick's Cullyhanna V Whitecross

Carrickcruppen V Granemore

Crossmaglen Rangers V Culloville Blues

Division 1       5/6/2011

Round 10

Sarsfields  V Whitecross

Ballymacnab V St Patrick's Cullyhanna

Granemore  V Crossmaglen Rangers

Culloville Blues V Droim an Tí

Pearse Og  V Carrickcruppen

Clan na Gael  V Maghery

Division 1       12/6/2011

Round 11

Maghery  V Culloville Blues

St Patrick's Cullyhanna V Clan na Gael

Whitecross V Ballymacnab

Droim an Tí V Granemore

Carrickcruppen V Sarsfields

Crossmaglen Rangers V Pearse Og

Division 1      22/6/2011

Round 12

Maghery  V Granemore

Droim an Tí V Pearse Og

Ballymacnab V Clan na Gael

St Patrick's Cullyhanna V Culloville Blues

Crossmaglen Rangers V Sarsfields

Whitecross V Carrickcruppen

Division 1      26/6/2011

Round 13

Culloville Blues V Ballymacnab

Clan na Gael  V Whitecross

Sarsfields  V Droim an Tí

Pearse Og  V Maghery

Carrickcruppen V Crossmaglen Rangers

Granemore  V St Patrick's Cullyhanna

Division 1       3/7/2011

Round 14

Clan na Gael  V Culloville Blues

Droim an Tí V Carrickcruppen

St Patrick's Cullyhanna V Pearse Og

Maghery  V Sarsfields

Ballymacnab V Granemore

Whitecross V Crossmaglen Rangers

Division 1      6/7/2011

Round 15

Pearse Og  V Ballymacnab

Crossmaglen Rangers V Droim an Tí

Sarsfields  V St Patrick's Cullyhanna

Granemore  V Clan na Gael

Carrickcruppen V Maghery

Culloville Blues V Whitecross

Division 1      24/7/2011

Round 16

Culloville Blues v Granemore

Maghery  V Crossmaglen Rangers

Clan na Gael  V Pearse Og

Ballymacnab V Sarsfields

St Patrick's Cullyhanna V Carrickcruppen

Whitecross V Droim an Tí

Division 1      27/7/2011

Round 17

Pearse Og  V Culloville Blues

Sarsfields  V Clan na Gael

Granemore  V Whitecross

Crossmaglen Rangers V St Patrick's Cullyhanna

Carrickcruppen V Ballymacnab

Droim an Tí V Maghery

Division 1      31/7/2011

Round 18

Ballymacnab V Crossmaglen Rangers

Whitecross V Maghery

St Patrick's Cullyhanna V Droim an Tí

Granemore  V Pearse Og

Clan na Gael  V Carrickcruppen

Culloville Blues V Sarsfields

Division 1      7/8/2011

Round 19

Pearse Og  V Whitecross

Crossmaglen Rangers V Clan na Gael

Carrickcruppen V Culloville Blues

Maghery  V St Patrick's Cullyhanna

Sarsfields  V Granemore

Droim an Tí V Ballymacnab

Division 1      21/8/2011

Round 20

Clan na Gael  V Droim an Tí

Ballymacnab V Maghery

Pearse Og  V Sarsfields

Whitecross V St Patrick's Cullyhanna

Granemore  V Carrickcruppen

Culloville Blues V Crossmaglen Rangers

Division 1      28/8/2011

Round 21

Whitecross V Sarsfields

St Patrick's Cullyhanna V Ballymacnab

Crossmaglen Rangers V Granemore

Droim an Tí V Culloville Blues

Carrickcruppen V Pearse Og

Maghery  V Clan na Gael

Division 1      11/9/2011

Round 22

Culloville Blues V Maghery

Clan na Gael  V St Patrick's Cullyhanna

Ballymacnab V Whitecross

Granemore  V Droim an Tí

Sarsfields  V Carrickcruppen

Pearse Og  V Crossmaglen Rangers


AT LAST LADS WE'RE BACK IN ACTION
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on March 07, 2011, 10:33:57 PM
elitist :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 07, 2011, 11:02:27 PM
I know but i just found these on facebook i am sure the rest are available on the armagh county web.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: real food, real people on March 08, 2011, 08:59:43 AM
whos looking after Pearse ogs this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on March 08, 2011, 10:47:58 AM
any update when ronan clarke may be togging out for the county
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on March 08, 2011, 11:32:12 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 07, 2011, 11:02:27 PM
I know but i just found these on facebook i am sure the rest are available on the armagh county web.


Where'd these fixtures come from? can't see them anywhere semi official?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 08, 2011, 02:38:27 PM
I was sent them by a lad that is rightly in touch with these sort of things, i don't think he would have made them up as it has the whole season mapped out. But could all be possible.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 08, 2011, 02:50:57 PM
aLSO NOTICE A LOT OF WEDNESDAY NIGHT GAMES
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on March 09, 2011, 12:25:13 PM
what division are the Harps in?



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on March 09, 2011, 02:01:42 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on March 08, 2011, 11:32:12 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 07, 2011, 11:02:27 PM
I know but i just found these on facebook i am sure the rest are available on the armagh county web.


Where'd these fixtures come from? can't see them anywhere semi official?
They're offical alright.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on March 09, 2011, 04:24:41 PM
And Cross are playing twice on 20th April ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyMan on March 09, 2011, 09:16:13 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on March 09, 2011, 12:25:13 PM
what division are the Harps in?

Division 2.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyMan on March 09, 2011, 09:19:27 PM
Division 2 17/4/2011
Round 1
Keady v Clann Eireann
Armagh Harps v Wolfe Tones
Tullysaran v Killeavey
Madden v Tir na nÓg
Silverbridge v Mullach Bán
St Michaels v Shane O'Neills
Division 2 20/4/2011
Round 2
Killeavey v Armagh Harps
Clann Eireann v Madden
Wolfe Tones v Keady
Mullach Bán v Tullysaran
Shane O'Neills v Silverbridge
Tir na nÓg v St Michaels
Division 2 27/4/2011
Round 3
Armagh Harps v Mullach Bán
Madden v Keady
Tullysaran v Shane O'Neills
Killeavey v Wolfe Tones
St Michaels v Clann Eireann
Silverbridge v Tir na nÓg
Division 2 1/5/2011
Round 4
Shane O'Neills v Armagh Harps
Wolfe Tones v Madden
Tir na nÓg v Tullysaran
Mullach Bán v Killeavey
Clann Eireann v Silverbridge
Keady v St Michaels
Division 2 8/5/2011
Round 5
Silverbridge v Keady
St Michaels v Madden
Tullysaran v Clann Eireann
Killeavey v Shane O'Neills
Mullach Bán v Wolfe Tones
Armagh Harps v Tir na nÓg
Division 2 15/5/2011
Round 6
Tir na nÓg v Killeavey
Shane O'Neills v Mullach Bán
Madden v Silverbridge
Keady v Tullysaran
Wolfe Tones v St Michaels
Clann Eireann v Armagh Harps
Division 2 22/5/2011
Round 7
Armagh Harps v Keady
Killeavey v Clann Eireann
Tullysaran v Madden
Silverbridge v St Michaels
Mullach Bán v Tir na nÓg
Shane O'Neills v Wolfe Tones
Division 2 29/5/2011
Round 8
Tir na nÓg v Shane O'Neills
Wolfe Tones v Silverbridge
Keady v Killeavey
Madden v Armagh Harps
St Michaels v Tullysaran
Clann Eireann v Mullach Bán
Division 2 1/6/2011
Round 9
Shane O'Neills v Clann Eireann
Armagh Harps v St Michaels
Tir na nÓg v Wolfe Tones
Tullysaran v Silverbridge
Killeavey v Madden
Mullach Bán v Keady
Division 2 5/6/2011
Round 10
St Michaels v Killeavey
Clann Eireann v Tir na nÓg
Keady v Shane O'Neills
Silverbridge v Armagh Harps
Madden v Mullach Bán
Tullysaran v Wolfe Tones
Division 2 12/6/2011
Round 11
Shane O'Neills v Madden
Tir na nÓg v Keady
Wolfe Tones v Clann Eireann
Mullach Bán v St Michaels
Armagh Harps v Tullysaran
Killeavey v Silverbridge
Division 2 22/6/2011
Round 12
Wolfe Tones v Armagh Harps
Killeavey v Tullysaran
Tir na nÓg v Madden
Clann Eireann v Keady
Mullach Bán v Silverbridge
Shane O'Neills v St Michaels
Division 2 26/6/2011
Round 13
Madden v Clann Eireann
Keady v Wolfe Tones
Silverbridge v Shane O'Neills
Armagh Harps v Killeavey
St Michaels v Tir na nÓg
Tullysaran v Mullach Bán
Division 2 3/7/2011
Round 14
Clann Eireann v St Michaels
Tir na nÓg v Silverbridge
Shane O'Neills v Tullysaran
Wolfe Tones v Killeavey
Mullach Bán v Armagh Harps
Keady v Madden
Division 2 6/7/2011
Round 15
Madden v Wolfe Tones
Armagh Harps v Shane O'Neills
St Michaels v Keady
Tullysaran v Tir na nÓg
Silverbridge v Clann Eireann
Killeavey v Mullach Bán
Division 2 24/7/2011
Round 16
Wolfe Tones v Mullach Bán
Tir na nÓg v Armagh Harps
Clann Eireann v Tullysaran
Keady v Silverbridge
Shane O'Neills v Killeavey
Madden v St Michaels
Division 2 27/7/2011
Round 17
Armagh Harps v Clann Eireann
Mullach Bán v Shane O'Neills
St Michaels v Wolfe Tones
Tullysaran v Keady
Silverbridge v Madden
Killeavey v Tir na nÓg
Division 2 31/7/2011
Round 18
Madden v Tullysaran
Keady v Armagh Harps
St Michaels v Silverbridge
Tir na nÓg v Mullach Bán
Wolfe Tones v Shane O'Neills
Clann Eireann v Killeavey
Division 2 7/8/2011
Round 19
Mullach Bán v Clann Eireann
Tullysaran v St Michaels
Shane O'Neills v Tir na nÓg
Armagh Harps v Madden
Killeavey v Keady
Silverbridge v Wolfe Tones
Division 2 21/8/2011
Round 20
St Michaels v Armagh Harps
Wolfe Tones v Tir na nÓg
Madden v Killeavey
Silverbridge v Tullysaran
Clann Eireann v Shane O'Neills
Keady v Mullach Bán
Division 2 28/8/2011
Round 21
Wolfe Tones v Tullysaran
Shane O'Neills v Keady
Killeavey v St Michaels
Tir na nÓg v Clann Eireann
Mullach Bán v Madden
Armagh Harps v Silverbridge
Division 2 11/9/2011
Round 22
Madden v Shane O'Neills
Silverbridge v Killeavey
St Michaels v Mullach Bán
Clann Eireann v Wolfe Tones
Keady v Tir na nÓg
Tullysaran v Armagh Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on March 17, 2011, 02:35:40 PM
Any links for todays final lads? Can't get it on RTE
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 17, 2011, 08:15:04 PM
Congratulations Crossmaglen...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on March 18, 2011, 01:09:37 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 17, 2011, 08:15:04 PM
Congratulations Crossmaglen...

Thanks ID
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on March 18, 2011, 02:01:31 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on March 09, 2011, 12:25:13 PM
what division are the Harps in?

Good to see that you still have the interests of your Club at heart. You know membership is due?   ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on March 18, 2011, 03:46:23 PM
Rufus,

I thought my Honory lifetime membership was ratified at the last AGM

Have not kept in touch with the league at home since landing in Oz, though i see a fixture with Tullysaran is down for the last game of the year............is that senior or U12's :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: shahrock02 on March 18, 2011, 09:33:50 PM
well done to cross,great club and people,there will be an odd man missing over the next few days....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: handocommando on March 19, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
cross were fantastic yesterday any chance we could see Jamie Clarke tomorrow? Hes worth the admission fee alone!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on March 21, 2011, 12:30:22 AM
How many of the 1995 Mullaghbawn team played for Armagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on March 21, 2011, 12:40:12 AM
tierney, e mcnulty, j mcnulty, colm mcparland, geezer, shane collins, neil smyth.

think that's it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: get up there on March 21, 2011, 09:36:28 PM
When the dust has settled down and looking back at crossmaglens st patricks day win with a bit of hindsight, there are are a few things that stand out and make the win quite remarkable, 1.. After a tough battle with cullyhanna, a good young and up and coming burren side, beating the all ireland champs of o9 and 10 it certainly cant be said they had an easy run.  2.. Looking through the starting 15 and the subs, they are to my knowledge all home grow,en players, no players in from other clubs or county's.. 3  And finally winning an all ireland coming off the back of a armagh championship defeat, with two rookie managers with no experience in management, makes for a amazing truly remarkable win.. congratulations and well done crossmaglen
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 21, 2011, 10:51:15 PM
Quote from: get up there on March 21, 2011, 09:36:28 PM
When the dust has settled down and looking back at crossmaglens st patricks day win with a bit of hindsight, there are are a few things that stand out and make the win quite remarkable, 1.. After a tough battle with cullyhanna, a good young and up and coming burren side, beating the all ireland champs of o9 and 10 it certainly cant be said they had an easy run.  2.. Looking through the starting 15 and the subs, they are to my knowledge all home grow,en players, no players in from other clubs or county's.. 3  And finally winning an all ireland coming off the back of a armagh championship defeat, with two rookie managers with no experience in management, makes for a amazing truly remarkable win.. congratulations and well done crossmaglen

Makes a change for them  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on March 22, 2011, 09:32:07 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 21, 2011, 10:51:15 PM
Quote from: get up there on March 21, 2011, 09:36:28 PM
When the dust has settled down and looking back at crossmaglens st patricks day win with a bit of hindsight, there are are a few things that stand out and make the win quite remarkable, 1.. After a tough battle with cullyhanna, a good young and up and coming burren side, beating the all ireland champs of o9 and 10 it certainly cant be said they had an easy run.  2.. Looking through the starting 15 and the subs, they are to my knowledge all home grow,en players, no players in from other clubs or county's.. 3  And finally winning an all ireland coming off the back of a armagh championship defeat, with two rookie managers with no experience in management, makes for a amazing truly remarkable win.. congratulations and well done crossmaglen

Makes a change for them  :P
Is that the taste of grapes going slightly sour?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 22, 2011, 02:37:44 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on March 22, 2011, 09:32:07 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 21, 2011, 10:51:15 PM
Quote from: get up there on March 21, 2011, 09:36:28 PM
When the dust has settled down and looking back at crossmaglens st patricks day win with a bit of hindsight, there are are a few things that stand out and make the win quite remarkable, 1.. After a tough battle with cullyhanna, a good young and up and coming burren side, beating the all ireland champs of o9 and 10 it certainly cant be said they had an easy run.  2.. Looking through the starting 15 and the subs, they are to my knowledge all home grow,en players, no players in from other clubs or county's.. 3  And finally winning an all ireland coming off the back of a armagh championship defeat, with two rookie managers with no experience in management, makes for a amazing truly remarkable win.. congratulations and well done crossmaglen

Makes a change for them  :P
Is that the taste of grapes going slightly sour?

Is that the sound of a sense of humour?

No, didn't think so.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 22, 2011, 04:30:35 PM
Prob a bit premature but is this the start of another ten years of Cross dominance? No one could have forecast them winning Ulster this year, never mind the AI. The usual suspects will fancy themselves of toppling them, Ogs, Dromintee, Clans etc, will the next ten years be more competitive than the last? The current Cross team isn't as good on paper as days gone by yet they still do the business. Also are there any new forces making the break through? I think Clann Eireann have the potential in a few years they seem to clean up from U14 down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 22, 2011, 06:05:14 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on March 22, 2011, 04:30:35 PM
Prob a bit premature but is this the start of another ten years of Cross dominance? No one could have forecast them winning Ulster this year, never mind the AI. The usual suspects will fancy themselves of toppling them, Ogs, Dromintee, Clans etc, will the next ten years be more competitive than the last? The current Cross team isn't as good on paper as days gone by yet they still do the business. Also are there any new forces making the break through? I think Clann Eireann have the potential in a few years they seem to clean up from U14 down.

Another 10 years or another 15? ;)  Let us enjoy this one before blowing us up/writing us off!! 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on March 22, 2011, 06:41:14 PM
If Cross can win the AI then they are strong enough, whatever about the comparison to previous versions! I doubt if they'll win every year, but they may win a lot of them.

Has John Murtagh cleared off to Dublin? Whether or not he should be in the Armagh panel, he would be a decent player to come into Cross. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 22, 2011, 06:48:59 PM
15 years ago youse started your domination but it was 10 years ago that yous really started to take the piss!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on March 22, 2011, 11:47:49 PM
Quote from: get up there on March 21, 2011, 09:36:28 PM
When the dust has settled down and looking back at crossmaglens st patricks day win with a bit of hindsight, there are are a few things that stand out and make the win quite remarkable, 1.. After a tough battle with cullyhanna, a good young and up and coming burren side, beating the all ireland champs of o9 and 10 it certainly cant be said they had an easy run.  2.. Looking through the starting 15 and the subs, they are to my knowledge all home grow,en players, no players in from other clubs or county's.. 3  And finally winning an all ireland coming off the back of a armagh championship defeat, with two rookie managers with no experience in management, makes for a amazing truly remarkable win.. congratulations and well done crossmaglen

Jaysus, when you think about it, Cullyhanna could very easily have been all Ireland club champions. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on March 23, 2011, 02:01:36 PM
anyone know which cross boys have been invited onto the county panel ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 23, 2011, 02:57:38 PM
Quote from: crossfire on March 22, 2011, 11:47:49 PM
Quote from: get up there on March 21, 2011, 09:36:28 PM
When the dust has settled down and looking back at crossmaglens st patricks day win with a bit of hindsight, there are are a few things that stand out and make the win quite remarkable, 1.. After a tough battle with cullyhanna, a good young and up and coming burren side, beating the all ireland champs of o9 and 10 it certainly cant be said they had an easy run.  2.. Looking through the starting 15 and the subs, they are to my knowledge all home grow,en players, no players in from other clubs or county's.. 3  And finally winning an all ireland coming off the back of a armagh championship defeat, with two rookie managers with no experience in management, makes for a amazing truly remarkable win.. congratulations and well done crossmaglen

Jaysus, when you think about it, Cullyhanna could very easily have been all Ireland club champions. ;)

In which sport  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on March 23, 2011, 07:50:46 PM
"The usual suspects will fancy themselves of toppling them, Ogs, Dromintee, Clans etc"

I think you might want to add Harps to this list who in the past number of years have certainly given the c'ship a better rattle and given Cross a better rattle than Clans have....no hard feelings like
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 23, 2011, 07:54:10 PM
Yes put the harps in aswell. Cullyhanna too as they took the cross to a replay last year. Sure stick everyone in then that will eradicate n e hard feelings
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 24, 2011, 08:12:03 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on March 22, 2011, 04:30:35 PM
Prob a bit premature but is this the start of another ten years of Cross dominance? No one could have forecast them winning Ulster this year, never mind the AI. The usual suspects will fancy themselves of toppling them, Ogs, Dromintee, Clans etc, will the next ten years be more competitive than the last? The current Cross team isn't as good on paper as days gone by yet they still do the business. Also are there any new forces making the break through? I think Clann Eireann have the potential in a few years they seem to clean up from U14 down.

Not sure Clans are in this bracket at the minute.  A very young team, who could develop over the next few years, though were very poor in last years championship and easily beaten by cullyhanna.  Imo St Pats, Og's, Dromintee and possibly Granemore will offer the biggest threat of toppling cross this year.  Granemore got a number of players back toward end of last year and have been knocking on the door for the last few years. A couple of big wins the last few years in cship v ogs and pats.  Was speaking to a harps player the other week and they have had a number of retirements/players not playing next year, so I feel getting back to div 1 be their main priority. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 24, 2011, 11:03:24 AM
we will be happy enough not to be in that bracket as brackets count for fook all lad. Every game is different, the outcome is unknown.  In the championship anything can happen i would be confident we could beat Og's, Dromintee, Cullyhann or Granemore. Cross deserve a little more respect as they are the current holders but i certainly haven't seen anything from them that renders them unbeatable. Looking forward to the start of the season lads, opinions will chop and change and the banter will be as good as always. Has been a long winter and this thread has been too quiet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 24, 2011, 11:24:51 AM
Lads answer me this, why do people feel that this Cross team is any more beatable than previous teams that have won the AI.  They have been variously described as mediocre, average, not quite as good as previous teams.  They are not as big as the team that I played on but they are significantly faster and younger.  Take Oisin out of the starting outfield team(Hearty has a longer career than the outfiueld players therefore I don't count him) then the average ages is something like 22.  Everyone of the starting defence is under 26.  The 2 midfielders are under 23, and the forward line apart from Oisin and SK are all under 25.  The point I am making is that they are all still maturing into men and I feel when they do they will be just as dominant as we were but the reality is when we were their age we never thought we would do what we eventually did.  They have a better bedrock then we had and an evolved system.  I don't know whether they will do what we did but I reckon that many people underestimate them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 24, 2011, 11:36:36 AM
I would agree with what u are saying BC but even when I was playing against the so called past cross team that was so dominate I always went onto the pitch believing I could win. I still believe we can beat the cross if we play to our potential but that is only my opinion I wouldn't play football if I thought I was going out to get beat. On the issue of will the cross dominate for years to come like the past team. I would say no, they undoubtedly set a very high benchmark but I think the other teams have the potential to improve more than cross. Cross are not going to go any highier than winning an all Ireland as it is the highest achievement. I feel this will motivate other teams like the ogs did two years ago to give it a good rattle. With the resources available to clubs now this process shouldn't take ten years if the clubs are worth their salt
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on March 24, 2011, 12:18:54 PM
BC - Cross will still take all the beating....in answer to your question tho, this team is not as intimidating as some of the other teams....you would feel you would have more of a chance against this current team...although there are good young players there now I feel it will be almost impossible to replace the 2 Mac's, Oisin, Francie and Donaldson. That was a very strong core of players - a few of which were exceptional. You have obviosuly unearthed a gem in Jamie Clarke though who looks a top player.

Winsamson - I know that it is never the 'done thing' to say you really did not believe that you could win a game but there were probably sometimes when you played Cross when you knew that it would be almost impossible for you to win. For example in that c'ship game a few years ago were they gave Clans a serious drubbing, you did not really believe that you were going to win that game did you? If you did you were being very gallant albeit terribly unrealistic. Clans surely have not beaten Cross in a meaningful game in years?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 24, 2011, 12:47:21 PM
Quote from: Scarface on March 24, 2011, 12:18:54 PM
BC - Cross will still take all the beating....in answer to your question tho, this team is not as intimidating as some of the other teams....you would feel you would have more of a chance against this current team...although there are good young players there now I feel it will be almost impossible to replace the 2 Mac's, Oisin, Francie and Donaldson. That was a very strong core of players - a few of which were exceptional. You have obviosuly unearthed a gem in Jamie Clarke though who looks a top player.

Winsamson - I know that it is never the 'done thing' to say you really did not believe that you could win a game but there were probably sometimes when you played Cross when you knew that it would be almost impossible for you to win. For example in that c'ship game a few years ago were they gave Clans a serious drubbing, you did not really believe that you were going to win that game did you? If you did you were being very gallant albeit terribly unrealistic. Clans surely have not beaten Cross in a meaningful game in years?

Scarface, they are a different type of team and I have to wonder where all this confidence stems from.  In the last 2 years we have been beaten 3 times I think it is in competetive football.  Obviously once by the Ogs and I thnk twice in the league over the 2 years.  Certainly Culloville beat us last year and maybe Dromintee the year before.  In many of those league games there would have been a good few absentees(as there would obviously have been in some of the other teams) but the point I am making is that even given the argument that this is a "lesser" team than we were before they still have a high rate of victories and are certainly a more rounded squad then we were before.  Time will tell but I think that the confidence of winning in Croke Park will give the likes of Jamie, Aaron cunningham, Johnny Hanratty etc an unbelieveable boost in confidence, remember none of the Kernans womn a club game in Croke Park either, nice wee lift there too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 24, 2011, 12:51:31 PM
Well going on your reasoning then the only team that has beaten cross in a meaningful game is the ogs. But I can assure u all our games are meaningful against the cross even the league games. Especially the 2006 championship final. Saying that we had no belief that we could beat the cross is comical. We trained very hard in the two previous years to that championship game and that year. Do u seriously think we took the field of play expecting to loose? If we meet the cross this year in the latter stages of the championship our lads will be blooming with confidence and ready to win. A small matter of cruppen to get over first though 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on March 24, 2011, 12:59:55 PM
Understood Winsamson....having a healthier level of competition in Armagh football will be to everyones benefit anyway.

I still believe that many teams in Armagh were defeated before they started when playing Cross...then again when you looked at the opposing levels of artillery at hand it was a reasonable enough thought...bit like Grenada saying they were going to defeat America in a war....:)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on March 24, 2011, 02:28:31 PM
As a neutral observer I would have to say the current Cross team has a lot more potential than previous incarnations. In my opinion the previous team was set up to grind the opposition down, it had some great footballers not least of which was Oisin, the current team is still capable of doing that but has a greater number of superb footballers. I think the best is yet to come.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 24, 2011, 02:34:06 PM
Well I'll state it here now then cross will not win the next ten championships in Armagh at senior level. Any prices on offer?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 24, 2011, 03:13:24 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 24, 2011, 12:51:31 PM
Well going on your reasoning then the only team that has beaten cross in a meaningful game is the ogs. But I can assure u all our games are meaningful against the cross even the league games. Especially the 2006 championship final. Saying that we had no belief that we could beat the cross is comical. We trained very hard in the two previous years to that championship game and that year. Do u seriously think we took the field of play expecting to loose? If we meet the cross this year in the latter stages of the championship our lads will be blooming with confidence and ready to win. A small matter of cruppen to get over first though
winsam you may have had the opinion that you were going to beat cross in the final and confidence in your own ability is a good thing imo.  To get to the county final, the lads obviously would have been confident and rightly so.  however, when you consider cross had won the previous 11 championships there is bound to have been doubts in some of your players minds if you could beat cross that day(especially when bumpy got the line?)?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 24, 2011, 03:36:00 PM
listen lads on the day of a game of football the past really counts for nothing it is all what happens on the day. If say for example a team had won 100 championships in a row it wouldn't neccessarily mean they won win the 101st. The same goes for the Armagh championship this is why we play football to win. In 2006 we got to a county final and it was the hardest two years of training we had ever done we also won the league that year. Everyone of our players felt that we could beat cross. I was playing that day and i certainly felt we were well in the game. When Bumpy got the line as you correctly say obviously that was a big blow to us as he was not only a leader on the pitch for us but also our main scoring threat ie free taker and long range points. The sending off occured after about 17 mins and at that time the score was something like 3-3. At half time in that game it was more hopeful than confident as we realised it was always going to be uphill with 14 men against a team of the calibre of cross. Cross came out and got a quick goal which killed the game off as a contest. There finished something like 8 or 9 points in it. IMO if we would have had the full quota of players we were in with a great chance of beating Cross in Cross that day. Now since that we have declined rapidly with a large number of retirements and a large number of youth players coming on board. The last two years in particular were very poor but we have a new management set up this year and things are going pretty well. Theres a good bunch of lads there so we won't be lacking any confidence come the 17th of April and come the championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 24, 2011, 03:52:58 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 24, 2011, 03:36:00 PM
listen lads on the day of a game of football the past really counts for nothing it is all what happens on the day. If say for example a team had won 100 championships in a row it wouldn't neccessarily mean they won win the 101st. The same goes for the Armagh championship this is why we play football to win. In 2006 we got to a county final and it was the hardest two years of training we had ever done we also won the league that year. Everyone of our players felt that we could beat cross. I was playing that day and i certainly felt we were well in the game. When Bumpy got the line as you correctly say obviously that was a big blow to us as he was not only a leader on the pitch for us but also our main scoring threat ie free taker and long range points. The sending off occured after about 17 mins and at that time the score was something like 3-3. At half time in that game it was more hopeful than confident as we realised it was always going to be uphill with 14 men against a team of the calibre of cross. Cross came out and got a quick goal which killed the game off as a contest. There finished something like 8 or 9 points in it. IMO if we would have had the full quota of players we were in with a great chance of beating Cross in Cross that day. Now since that we have declined rapidly with a large number of retirements and a large number of youth players coming on board. The last two years in particular were very poor but we have a new management set up this year and things are going pretty well. Theres a good bunch of lads there so we won't be lacking any confidence come the 17th of April and come the championship.

saw yous play maghery in league last year and was impressed with you that day,lot of young lads showed up very well. from talking to a few of your players management and discipline were a few reasons why you were not as consistent as you would have liked last year.  with a new management team, hopefully for your sake these can be ironed out and yous can bring these lads on.  would be good have a north armagh team in latter stages of cship this year.  I know from our own club a number of retirements can be hard to take and the younger lads can take time to find their feet playing senior football. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 24, 2011, 04:18:47 PM
Have u got ur cruppen top ironed for the championship yet  ;) :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Don Johnson on March 24, 2011, 04:45:48 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 24, 2011, 04:18:47 PM
Have u got ur cruppen top ironed for the championship yet  ;) :D

:D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on March 25, 2011, 11:16:25 AM
BC - Despite the great success of Cross this year I still think they are a more vulnerable team that in some years gone by. They are still a superb team mind you as evidenced by the recent AI win. However there is a feeling that a team could get some joy playing against that full back line for instance. They looked a bit shaky with the high ball raining down on them in various c'ship games and a forward line with power and pace could give them trouble. You can look at the display of that big forward in the AI final for evidence of this. Anyway dont think I am taking away from the team because I am not. They are entitled to all the plaudits that come their way.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on March 25, 2011, 05:13:53 PM
Quote from: Scarface on March 23, 2011, 07:50:46 PM
"The usual suspects will fancy themselves of toppling them, Ogs, Dromintee, Clans etc"

I think you might want to add Harps to this list who in the past number of years have certainly given the c'ship a better rattle and given Cross a better rattle than Clans have....no hard feelings like

Despite the fact that the Harps got to the final once 2 years ago I still wouldn't have had them down as contenders... and I still don't!! Sure maybe they'll prove me wrong this year but Cullyhanna look to be the strong bet this year. I would say they have a bit of confidence now from last year. Another year wiser too!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on March 25, 2011, 05:30:31 PM
If Cullyhanna lose Tasker it would be difficult to see them pushing as hard again this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on March 25, 2011, 06:43:46 PM
"Despite the fact that the Harps got to the final once 2 years ago I still wouldn't have had them down as contenders"

Who would have thunk it eh..... ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on March 27, 2011, 12:05:56 AM
Quote from: Scarface on March 25, 2011, 06:43:46 PM
"Despite the fact that the Harps got to the final once 2 years ago I still wouldn't have had them down as contenders"

Who would have thunk it eh..... ::)

I'm entitled to my opinion  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 27, 2011, 12:18:57 AM
I think cullyhanna are a poor enough side. Think they lack pace right throughout IMO. Cross on their day would destroy them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 27, 2011, 02:30:04 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 27, 2011, 12:18:57 AM
I think cullyhanna are a poor enough side. Think they lack pace right throughout IMO. Cross on their day would destroy them

I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a wind-up but Cross struggled to destroy us on two separate occasions.

Though the description "destroyed" wouldn't have been out of place were it attributed to Clan na Gael after all three of their matches against St Pat's last Summer.  :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on March 27, 2011, 01:38:17 PM
"I think cullyhanna are a poor enough side. Think they lack pace right throughout IMO. Cross on their day would destroy them"

You would think this must be a wind up. If not its a bit arrogant.

Clans are no great shakes at all and have not been for years. You would get a harder match against Pats than Clans these days IMO.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 27, 2011, 02:55:12 PM
I was very impressed with Cullyhanna last year. A very determined side and one of the few in the county that aren't intimidated by Cross. They set down a marker last year and I'd expect them to build on that this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on March 28, 2011, 11:29:22 AM
Anoyne got any idea of the various underage divisions and fixtures lists?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on March 28, 2011, 01:02:00 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 27, 2011, 12:18:57 AM
I think cullyhanna are a poor enough side. Think they lack pace right throughout IMO. Cross on their day would destroy them

st pats gave them there 2 most difficult games on the way to ai victory,so would have to disagree.  tasker be a big loss for them this year though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 28, 2011, 01:52:24 PM
I thought this debate was about St Pat's so how does the clans come into it??
If you are asking about how the clans of the last few years would cope with cross then yes they would be destroyed aswell. This doesn't change the fact that Cullyhanna are a very average team. This is nothing to do with arrogance it is simply m opinion that if cross hit top gear they would destroy cullyhanna is all departments. Cullyhanna have a few decent players but i certainly wouldn't mind drawing them in the later stages of the championship
Title: Cuchulainn Hurling Club Poker Nite
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on March 28, 2011, 04:22:21 PM
The Cuchulainn Hurling Club are hosting their annual Texas Hold'em Nite this Friday 1st April, 9pm @ Pearse Ogs Social Club. The entry is £20 and there is a large field of 70 plus expected to be there.
Title: Re: Cuchulainn Hurling Club Poker Nite
Post by: illdecide on March 28, 2011, 05:04:01 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on March 28, 2011, 04:22:21 PM
The Cuchulainn Hurling Club are hosting their annual Texas Hold'em Nite this Friday 1st April, 9pm @ Pearse Ogs Club rooms. The entry is £20 and there is a large field of 70 plus expected to be there.

Thats unbelieveable Spirit
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on March 28, 2011, 05:05:03 PM
Quote from: illdecide on March 28, 2011, 05:04:01 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on March 28, 2011, 04:22:21 PM
The Cuchulainn Hurling Club are hosting their annual Texas Hold'em Nite this Friday 1st April, 9pm @ Pearse Ogs Club rooms. The entry is £20 and there is a large field of 70 plus expected to be there.

Thats unbelieveable Spirit

What? the attendance?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 28, 2011, 05:07:50 PM
I was just messing with ya ;)

70 is a good turn out if ya get it, had about 80 at ours there at Christmas with £2k paid out for £30 in
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on March 28, 2011, 08:32:54 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on March 28, 2011, 01:52:24 PM
I thought this debate was about St Pat's so how does the clans come into it??
If you are asking about how the clans of the last few years would cope with cross then yes they would be destroyed aswell. This doesn't change the fact that Cullyhanna are a very average team. This is nothing to do with arrogance it is simply m opinion that if cross hit top gear they would destroy cullyhanna is all departments. Cullyhanna have a few decent players but i certainly wouldn't mind drawing them in the later stages of the championship

So why didn't Cross hit top gear in both the championship semi-final and the subsequent replay? Genuinely, I'm interested. You mightn't "mind" Clans drawing us but unless there is a significant improvement in Clan na Gael from last year what you won't be "minding" is your club's exit from the championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on March 28, 2011, 11:21:37 PM
To be fair TAC you'll be hard pushed to ever see such a tame performance from any club in the SFC again, never mind the Clans.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 29, 2011, 11:16:16 AM
Tac i am not going to get into the ins and outs of my club on a public forum. As i have said before, what has happened in the past doesn't guarantee anything for the future so drawing with cross last year doesn't neccesarily mean you will draw with them this year.

I haven't seen anything in the Armagh championship over the last few years that has changed my opinion. That opinion being that Cross are the team to beat and the og's are probably next best. I think there is a net then that can be thrown around another 5 or 6 teams that could beat each other. That would include yourselves, Dromintee, Harps, Ourselves and Granemore. By the way i am not taking a dig at Cullyhanna i am only commenting on them because i know you are a cullyhanna man and we can have some sort of debate which others can join in.

To answer the question as to why cross didn't hit top gear last year, the answer is i don't know. But what i will say is that if they would have put in a performance like they did against Kilmacud i think they would have beaten anyone in Armagh comprehensively .
Title: We seek him here, we seek him there
Post by: Ulick on March 31, 2011, 10:34:46 AM
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188659_187768731266025_100000986980831_439295_167037_n.jpg)

Yesterday in Lurgan.
Title: Re: We seek him here, we seek him there
Post by: winsamsoon on March 31, 2011, 11:08:32 AM
Quote from: Ulick on March 31, 2011, 10:34:46 AM
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188659_187768731266025_100000986980831_439295_167037_n.jpg)

Yesterday in Lurgan.

Lost me there lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on April 05, 2011, 11:02:44 PM
Bit of symmetry about the eyes there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on April 07, 2011, 09:13:05 PM
Quote from: Scarface on March 25, 2011, 06:43:46 PM
"Despite the fact that the Harps got to the final once 2 years ago I still wouldn't have had them down as contenders"

Who would have thunk it eh..... ::)

There also seems to be some justification to my opinion now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on April 07, 2011, 10:00:50 PM
Quote from: ogshead on April 07, 2011, 09:13:05 PM
Quote from: Scarface on March 25, 2011, 06:43:46 PM
"Despite the fact that the Harps got to the final once 2 years ago I still wouldn't have had them down as contenders"

Who would have thunk it eh..... ::)

There also seems to be some justification to my opinion now.

just some!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on April 08, 2011, 09:12:18 AM
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on April 07, 2011, 10:00:50 PM
Quote from: ogshead on April 07, 2011, 09:13:05 PM
Quote from: Scarface on March 25, 2011, 06:43:46 PM
"Despite the fact that the Harps got to the final once 2 years ago I still wouldn't have had them down as contenders"

Who would have thunk it eh..... ::)

There also seems to be some justification to my opinion now.


just some!!

6-18 to 0-4... big gulf in class. I know it was only a friendly match but there's no way the Ogs should be beating the Harps by that much if they are real challengers for the championship. Who knows, maybe they can turn it around.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on April 08, 2011, 10:47:26 AM
there should have been another 3-4 goals on top of the 6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 08, 2011, 09:16:42 PM
Revised targets alrite. We've lost 9/10 starters from the County Final, unbelievable number to lose in such a short period of time. We've put out stronger B teams in recent years  than last night's team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on April 08, 2011, 09:28:25 PM
"There also seems to be some justification to my opinion now."

Haha - well done you...you are a bright lad after all.

Thats some score alright...really bad - the Ogs are not that good so the Harps must have been really bad...did not make the match but got one or two texts about it....hardly believed the score I was hearing could be correct. It must have been a poor enough team fielded. Any reports on who was playing, who did the damage for the Ogs etc etc?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on April 08, 2011, 11:54:46 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 08, 2011, 09:16:42 PM
Revised targets alrite. We've lost 9/10 starters from the County Final, unbelievable number to lose in such a short period of time. We've put out stronger B teams in recent years  than last night's team.

I've always felt over the last decade or so that we have been in the top four or five in the County, without ever really threatening to be number one. Consequently, we could go far with a good draw, or get kicked out in round one with a tough draw. Indeed there were two occasions (2003 and 2008) when we went under to Cross in semi-finals where we gave them a good run, with young teams, and it might have reasonably been expected that we could buld on those performances and go on and make the breakthrough in the coming years.

However last year was the first time I felt our position in the grand scheme of things slipping. At the end of last season, I would have had Rangers, Dromintee, Ogs, Granemore, Ballymacnab and St Pats ahead of us. You could argue one or two others.

Against that background, we have since lost a number of significant players - Collie Holmes, all round legend and gentleman, has called time - the leader of the team who is quite simply irreplaceable. Kevin Kelly and Martn McCoy are in England and there are others who have quit for their own reasons ( ::)). There is now a significant danger that the potential brought by a rich seam of underage talent is going to turn to dust at Senior level. For instance, I'd be curious to know how many of our Ulster Minor Club winning team will feature regularly this year
at Senior Level.

This was always going to be a testing year. That said, what happened on Thursday night shocked me, and would increase my concerns for the short to mid term period.

Knowing that, I will not be going to Harps matches this year expecting success. All I would ask is that those that do play give off their best, and do so with pride in the jersey. I know for a fact that the Senior Management will!     
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 09, 2011, 12:11:29 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on April 08, 2011, 11:54:46 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 08, 2011, 09:16:42 PM
Revised targets alrite. We've lost 9/10 starters from the County Final, unbelievable number to lose in such a short period of time. We've put out stronger B teams in recent years  than last night's team.

I've always felt over the last decade or so that we have been in the top four or five in the County, without ever really threatening to be number one. Consequently, we could go far with a good draw, or get kicked out in round one with a tough draw. Indeed there were two occasions (2003 and 2008) when we went under to Cross in semi-finals, with young teams, and it might have reasonably been expected that we could buld on those performances and go on and make the breakthrough in the coming years.

However last year was the first time I felt our position in the grand scheme of things slipping. At the end of last season, I would have had Rangers, Dromintee, Ogs, Granemore, Ballymacnab and St Pats ahead of us. You could argue one or two others.

Against that background, we have since lost a number of significant players - Collie Holmes, all round legend and gentleman, has called time - the leader of the team who is quite simply irreplaceable. Kevin Kelly and Martn McCoy are in England and there are others who have quit for their own reasons ( ::)). There is now a significant danger that the potential brought by a rich seam of underage talent is going to turn to dust at Senior level. For instance, I'd be curious to know how many of our Ulster Minor Club winning team will feature regularly this year
at Senior Level.

This was always going to be a testing year. That said, what happened on Thursday night shocked me, and would increase my concerns for the short to mid term period.

Knowing that, I will not be going to Harps matches this year expecting success. All I would ask is that those that do play give off their best, and do so with pride in the jersey. I know for a fact that the Senior Management will!     

I take it your referring to Sean Morrison there Rufus? Why did he leave?
How many were missing last night other than the 3 with the county? You're going to have to play most of the league without those 3 so the majority of that team will be what your working with in the league. I can see Lenny and Joe coming in there. Any others I'm missing?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 09, 2011, 10:51:47 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on April 08, 2011, 11:54:46 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on April 08, 2011, 09:16:42 PM
Revised targets alrite. We've lost 9/10 starters from the County Final, unbelievable number to lose in such a short period of time. We've put out stronger B teams in recent years  than last night's team.

I've always felt over the last decade or so that we have been in the top four or five in the County, without ever really threatening to be number one. Consequently, we could go far with a good draw, or get kicked out in round one with a tough draw. Indeed there were two occasions (2003 and 2008) when we went under to Cross in semi-finals where we gave them a good run, with young teams, and it might have reasonably been expected that we could buld on those performances and go on and make the breakthrough in the coming years.

However last year was the first time I felt our position in the grand scheme of things slipping. At the end of last season, I would have had Rangers, Dromintee, Ogs, Granemore, Ballymacnab and St Pats ahead of us. You could argue one or two others.

Against that background, we have since lost a number of significant players - Collie Holmes, all round legend and gentleman, has called time - the leader of the team who is quite simply irreplaceable. Kevin Kelly and Martn McCoy are in England and there are others who have quit for their own reasons ( ::)). There is now a significant danger that the potential brought by a rich seam of underage talent is going to turn to dust at Senior level. For instance, I'd be curious to know how many of our Ulster Minor Club winning team will feature regularly this year
at Senior Level.

This was always going to be a testing year. That said, what happened on Thursday night shocked me, and would increase my concerns for the short to mid term period.

Knowing that, I will not be going to Harps matches this year expecting success. All I would ask is that those that do play give off their best, and do so with pride in the jersey. I know for a fact that the Senior Management will!   
Joe Brolly recently said Derry are a side in transition and have been for about 8 years!  That's how I feel about the Harps at the minute, looked to be on the brink of acheiving and then dealt a few body blows with retirements and losing players to work across the water.  We're right back slap in middle of another period of (enforced) transition, we've some great talent there who are wild young and will undoubtedly take a few years to mature. 

Also think the right manager is in place and has to be given a few years to bring us on (hopefully he'll be interested in doing so!).  It will be a testing year and hopefully Harps people realise this & judge the team, management and season accordingly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on April 09, 2011, 11:26:13 AM
All is not yet lost though for the Harps. It is a matter of having a good structure in place, fellas who believe they can achieve something and will give it their all. I saw a year or two ago how Ballymacnab - with a young and quite physically small team were able to run away with division two. A good season in the division is very achievable even in a so called period of transition. In the same way as one swallow does not make a summer then one very bad result does not a season make!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on April 10, 2011, 07:01:38 PM
Quote from: Scarface on April 08, 2011, 09:28:25 PM
"There also seems to be some justification to my opinion now."

Haha - well done you...you are a bright lad after all.

Thats some score alright...really bad - the Ogs are not that good so the Harps must have been really bad...did not make the match but got one or two texts about it....hardly believed the score I was hearing could be correct. It must have been a poor enough team fielded. Any reports on who was playing, who did the damage for the Ogs etc etc?

I am realistic enough to know that this is early in the season and I know when you have your county players back you will be capable enough of a big result in a championship match. It tongue in cheek remarks I had made a few weeks back for a wind up. The question is... will this be the team that has to get you through the league campaign?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on April 10, 2011, 07:48:46 PM
Would it be weird to assume the harps have problems that stem deeper than the ogs result on thursday?  Iv heard quite a few senior players have left,

Jp Donnelly being the most famous example, would have been the lynchpin of the harps back line, and general old head leader the harps may now crave after Collie Holmes retired. 

All in all, i think the harps have bigger problems than getting a major beat down which counts for nothing.  Well, except pride  ;)

<Edited Mod 3> - See post below.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on April 10, 2011, 11:05:16 PM
Ethan it sounds like you are trying to do a bit of stirring here....digging up some dirt so to speak. I dont have any for you.

You would like to think that there would be some boys to come into the setup and that the team that lost heavily the other night would not be the one that will play out the league campaign...all in all it was still a dismal result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: regal on April 11, 2011, 10:55:32 AM
Who are the 3 county players with the Harps - Vernon, Swift & ? Is Martin Grimley still manager?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 11, 2011, 11:03:55 AM
Quote from: regal on April 11, 2011, 10:55:32 AM
Who are the 3 county players with the Harps - Vernon, Swift & ? Is Martin Grimley still manager?

Declan McKenna
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: regal on April 11, 2011, 12:54:07 PM
Of course. Sorry
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on April 11, 2011, 03:36:03 PM
Not stirring atal, heard from legit sources that if the minors didnt get a turnout at training a few weeks back they were going to pull the plug!  <Edited by Mod3> - That sort of unfounded gossip is not appropriate here. That's a serious enough comment to make against members on a committee, and one they could quite rightly cause trouble over. Plus, they don't necessarily have the ability to see or hear things on here, and so don't have an automatic right of reply. I'd suggest that sort of comment is better brought up internally in the club, so they have a chance to address.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 11, 2011, 09:06:08 PM
Assuming you are a Harps 'supporter' take your 'concerns' to any Committee member. Posting rumours on an internet forum is not really the way to go is it?  Other than that, it can be safely assumed that your only reason for posting is to stir shite as has already been suggested.  Most clubs have had anonymous stalkers in some shape or other who love nothing better than posting mallicious nonsense, you're nothing new.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 12, 2011, 12:09:04 PM
Very concerning to see and hear of a lot of teams losing huge numbers of players. My own clubs lost 8 or 9 players a couple of years back but fair play to the younger lads that came in they managed to keep the team up in top tier league football.

I know the rumour mills are rife but what are the reasons for these players leaving their clubs. Obviously there are lads that have little choice and are moving away to find work in this tough economical climate. There are other lads that simply cannot give the committment for the modern game and therefore have other family committments that are far more important. But it seems to me that players have a far shorter career now than a decade ago. If you look at the majority of teams they will now be made up of mostly new blood and a crop of maybe 10 at most players between the ages of 25-30 . There aren't many players in the county playing top flight football over the age of 32. Even the average age of the B teams is way lower than a decade ago. I remember going to watch my dad playing b football and there were few young lads around the age of 20 on the team and that's not a million miles away.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on April 12, 2011, 02:50:46 PM
No not a harps supporter, unfortunatly.  Just heard some 'rumors' regarding fallouts etc.  Just after a bit of clarification.  Where better to ask? Well aside the harps thread of course.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 12, 2011, 05:19:29 PM
Right who's gonna be first this year for the predictions for this weekends games...ME

Granemore v Maghery - Granemore by 3pts.
Pearse Og v Dromintee - Ogs by 4pts advantage to swing it for Ogs.
Cullaville v St.Patricks - Draw
Sarsfields v Crossmaglen - Crossmaglen by 6pts.
Carrickcruppin v Whitecross - I was going to tip Cruppin but i was told Cruppin have lost half of their team from last year??? if thats the case Whitecross by 2pts
Clan na Gael v Ballymacnab - Clans by 2pts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on April 13, 2011, 07:47:55 PM
Heard tonite that we may see Ronan Clarke in a few club games over the next month
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 14, 2011, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: naka on April 13, 2011, 07:47:55 PM
Heard tonite that we may see Ronan Clarke in a few club games over the next month


Really?? I think I just shit myself with exitement! If possible can you forward me the dates, times and location of these games? Cheers...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 14, 2011, 06:02:20 PM
Very good saan. Clarke will never return to his best lads, unfortunately
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyMan on April 14, 2011, 06:34:31 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 14, 2011, 06:02:20 PM
Very good saan. Clarke will never return to his best lads, unfortunately

That may be true... But I wouldn't write him of yet, you never know ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 15, 2011, 11:08:42 AM
I wish the lad all the best he is a clinking footballer on his day and a sound lad into the bargain
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on April 15, 2011, 03:25:29 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on April 14, 2011, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: naka on April 13, 2011, 07:47:55 PM
Heard tonite that we may see Ronan Clarke in a few club games over the next month


Really?? I think I just shit myself with exitement! If possible can you forward me the dates, times and location of these games? Cheers...
you probually would shit urself because u could never come near him as a footballer and person. thanks to win ur mate? who has a bit of commonsense in his reply. i hope clarkie can return to at least enjoy his football with the club and who knows wer that will lead.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 16, 2011, 10:34:59 AM
after all he done for his county thats how you treat a player coming back from a serious injury thats had him out of action for over a year?? 2 all stars, young player of the year '02 and one of the major players in the most successful era of armagh football deserves a bit more respect than that...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 16, 2011, 08:20:32 PM
Ronans a good lad boys but he was only having a bit of Craic. Lighten up lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 16, 2011, 08:37:04 PM
Cross beat Killeavy in the Feile final today.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 16, 2011, 09:45:53 PM
Great performamce by the young lads in the Feile. Came back twice from being 3 points down to end up winning by 7. Looking forward to the run down to Cork for the All Irelands.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on April 16, 2011, 10:48:58 PM
QuoteGreat performamce by the young lads in the Feile

Will these be the men to get the 50th Armagh championship?

QuoteLooking forward to the run down to Cork for the All Irelands.

That should be a novelty!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on April 16, 2011, 11:00:52 PM
Nice going the other way for a change!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 17, 2011, 01:27:14 PM
Annaghmore beat Belleek 2-11 to 1-11. Annaghmore were easily the better side and were never behind but both sides were level going into injury time of which there were 5 minutes. Decent game spolit by a poor ref who is clearly not aware of current interpretation of rules.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 17, 2011, 03:35:41 PM
Pearse Og 1-19 Dromintee 0-4
Great all round performance from the lads with Anto Duffy, Tommy Turley, Paul Duffy and Andy Mallon all standout performers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 17, 2011, 03:51:02 PM
Ballymacnab beat clans by 5. Decent game . Result stinking.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 17, 2011, 03:55:05 PM
St Patrick's 2-9 Cullovile 0-8

St Patrick's II 0-6 Dorsey Emmetts 1-6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 17, 2011, 04:03:00 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 17, 2011, 03:51:02 PM
Ballymacnab beat clans by 5. Decent game . Result stinking.

Jasus I thought the result wasn't too bad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 17, 2011, 04:05:47 PM
I suspect we were looking from different perspectives onion lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 17, 2011, 04:12:48 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 17, 2011, 04:05:47 PM
I suspect we were looking from different perspectives onion lol

You could be onto something there alright winsam ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: anportmorforjfc on April 17, 2011, 04:16:32 PM
An Portmor 2-11 Clonmore 1-6
Great start to the year!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 17, 2011, 05:09:37 PM
Cross beat Sarsfields by about 9 points....2-16 to 2-7 i think.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 17, 2011, 07:46:38 PM
Any other results lads.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 17, 2011, 08:43:19 PM
Quote from: crossfire on April 17, 2011, 07:46:38 PM
Any other results lads.?

Mullaghbawn beat the Bridge in Division 2 I heard.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 17, 2011, 08:48:16 PM
ACL Division 1: St Patrick's 2-9 Culloville 0-8

St Patrick's and Culloville served as the curtain raiser to the Armagh Leagues for 2011 as the sides met at High Noon in Culloville on Sunday. Missing seven regular players from last year's side, victory was always likely to be a difficult task for a Cullyhanna side who have picked up an unfortunate habit of making poor starts to League campaigns in recent seasons. St Patrick's began this game brightly however by creating a glorious goal chance which was unfortunately missed. It wasn't long until the account was opened with a point which was added to soon after by Shane McKeever who pointed a free after being fouled himself. St Patrick's were beginning to get on top as Micky Murray won a ball well in defence and initiated a good Cullyhanna movement which resulted in a Kieran Hoey point. Hoey was again the benefactor as a purposeful run from Liam O'Hare ended in another Cullyhanna score to put the away side four in front. While Cullovile had not yet troubled the scoreboard, they were still well in contention and indeed only some very poor shooting from the home side prevented them from narrowing the deficit.

After around 20 minutes, Culloville finally broke their scoring duck with an excellent long range effort. Another pointed Culloville free followed before St Pat's re-asserted their domination of affairs when a long ball forward was well won by Kieran Hoey who laid the ball off to the onrushing Rory O'Neill who kicked a good point. These direct tactics worked again minutes later when a great crossfield ball from Kieran Hoey found Shane McKeever who laid the ball off to Rory O'Neill for another score. A key phase of play came late in the first half just after Mal Mackin was forced to switch to full forward having picked up a knock. This proved to be a fortuitous injury as a Kieran Hoey free was well caught by the county man close to the Culloville goal. Mal turned his marker well and slid a low shot past the Culloville goalkeeper for a goal which meant that despite a late Culloville point, Cullyhanna's half time advantage was reasonably comfortable as they led by 1-6 to 0-3. However the disparity on the scoreboard was not truly reflective of the evenness of the exchanges , the main difference between the sides being that fact that Cullyhanna were more adept at turning possession into scores.

The second half began well for St Pat's as Liam O'Hare kicked a superb point with the outside of the boot. A Culloville free kept them in touch but 11 minutes into the half a good St Pat's move resulted in Rory O'Neill adding another point. Scores were at something of a premium during the next phase of the match however Culloville began to dominate affairs and reeled off three points in a row between the 16th and 22nd minutes of the half. With only four points now between the sides, a goal would certainly have been crucial and Culloville were presented with a golden opportunity for a major score when an attacker was pulled down for a penalty. The crucial kick was well saved by Deaglan McArdle however and as the ball was scrambled away for a 45 which was eventually cleared, the Cullyhanna faithful breathed a huge sigh of relief. Four minutes later, St Pat's eased themselves further in front when a sweeping attacking move involving Liam O'Hare and substitute Eugene Casey resulted in Rory O'Neill kicking his fourth point of the match from a difficult angle. With two minutes to go the result was put beyond doubt when Eugene Casey was hauled down for a St Patrick's penalty. Shane McKeever made no mistake in goaling from 12m to ensure a Cullyhanna victory. A late Culloville point served as nothing more than consolation as Cullyhanna ran out comfortable victors on a scoreline of St Patrick's 2-9 Culloville 0-8.

While this was a pleasing and probably deserved victory, the seven point margin was flattering to a Cullyhanna side that played in patches rather than producing a sustained performance. Nevertheless, with so many players missing, those who stepped into the breach can be proud of their efforts. Kieran Hoey, Deaglan McArdle and Liam O'Hare all had good games but pride of place should certainly go to Rory O'Neill who kicked a magnificent four points from play on his debut for the side. Next up for St Pat's is a match against Granemore on Wednesday night.

ACL Division 4: St Patrick's II 0-6 Dorsey Emmetts 1-6

Local pride was at stake at St Patrick's Park Cullyhanna as parish rivals Dorsey and Cullyhanna Seconds met in the opening game of the season. Played in brilliant sunshine, the match almost started perfectly for Cullyhanna as Patsy McKeever burst through the Dorsey defence but had his shot saved before Dorsey managed to scramble the ball clear. A minute later the St Pat's onslaught continued as Brendan Quinn passed to Peter Loughran who popped the ball over the ball for the opening score. However the lead did not last long as Gary Mackin surged through the Cullyhanna defence with a goal on his mind. Mackin was felled by the goalkeeper however the loose ball was kicked to the net for a Dorsey goal. This was a huge blow for a Cullyhanna side who had the best of the early exchanges but went further behind due to a long range pointed Gary Mackin free. Dorsey made St Pat's pay dearly for their indiscretions with three more pointed frees between the 14th and 26th minutes, the only St Pat's reply being from Patsy McKeever who kicked a point after being supplied the ball by Peter Loughran. With three minutes left in the half, Dorsey fisted another point to put themselves six points to the good however Cathal O'Neill had the final say in the half with a pointed free to leave the scoreline at the interval: St Patrick's 0-3 Dorsey 1-5.

While the half-time deficit was substantial, Cullyhanna's opportunity was far from lost particularly with the aid of the second half breeze. It was however Dorsey who started the half the brightest with a pointed free to increase the advantage to six again. Yet that was to be the Emmetts' last score of the match as St Pat's grabbed a strangehold on the game. Direct football from Paudie Mackin and Miceal Connolly began the fightback when a free from the former found Connolly well who made no mistake in turning and shooting the ball over the bar. Midway through the half Miceal almost fashioned a goal opportunity for himself but when that avenue was closed off, patient play worked the ball to Brendan Nugent who kicked a score. By this stage St Pat's were very much in the ascendancy but were still finding scores difficult to come by as numerous opportunities were wasted due to a failure to supply the final pass with precision.  While St Pat's enjoyed a lot of possession, their scoring rate was not doing justice to their efforts and indeed it was the 29th minute of the half before Cathal O'Neill's magnificent long range free brought St Pat's within a goal of the opposition. In the 3 minutes of injury time, the home side pressed for the goal that would have given them deserved draw but although the chance did eventually arrive, unfortunately it was scuffed wide as Dorsey held on to secure the victory.

While the St Pat's side will no doubt be disappointed with the result, they can at least take heart in the fact that while they slumped to two heavy defeats against this opposition last year, on this occasion they were very unfortunate not to get at least a share of the spoils. While the quality of football was not particularly high due to both sides displaying some early season rustiness, the application and effort shown by St Pat's augurs well for the season ahead. Best of the day were probably wing backs Christopher Thompson and Sean Nugent while Miceal Connolly was a constant threat up front.

Scorers: Miceal Connolly (0-1) P Loughran (0-1) P McKeever (0-1) C O'Neill (0-2) B Nugent (0-1)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 17, 2011, 09:27:55 PM
Fair play to u tac, u always give a great account of proceedings
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on April 17, 2011, 09:44:50 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 17, 2011, 09:27:55 PM
Fair play to u tac, u always give a great account of proceedings

I was just thinking that myself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 17, 2011, 10:55:25 PM
Quote from: ogshead on April 17, 2011, 09:44:50 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 17, 2011, 09:27:55 PM
Fair play to u tac, u always give a great account of proceedings

I was just thinking that myself

Thanks lads - appreciate it. They are the notes for the Cross Examiner and Armagh Down Observer. Actually takes longer to do than you'd think though I often regret my failure to properly proof read!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 18, 2011, 02:09:33 PM
Full roundup lads

Sunday 17th April Simplyfruit.com ACL
Division 1
Granemore 1-18 v Maghery 0-05
Pearse Og 1-19 v Dromintee 0-04
Clan na Gael 1-13 v Ballymacnab 3-12
Cullaville 0-08 v St.Patricks 2-09
Sarsfields 2-10 v Crossmaglen 2-19
Carrickcruppin 0-08 v Whitecross 0-13
Division 2
Keady 0-15 v Clann Eireann 1-08
Armagh Harps 1-11 v Wolfe Tone 1-11
Tullysaran 1-10 v Killeavy 1-15
Madden 0-12 v Tir na nOg 0-10
Silverbridge 0-08 v Mullabawn 1-10
St.Michaels 0-07 v Shane O'Neills 1-09
Division 3
Grange 2-20 v Forkhill 2-11
Collegeland 0-07 v Middletown 0-08
Annaghmore 2-11 v Belleek 1-11
An Port Mor 2-11 v Clonmore 1-06
St.Pauls 2-13 v Crossmaglen 2nds 0-11
St.Peters 0-08 v Ballyhegan 0-04
Division 4
Dromintee 2nds 0-05 v Lissummon 0-14
Clady 0-10 v Derrynoose 0-04
St.Patricks 2nds 0-06 v Dorsey Emmetts 1-06
Killeavy 2nds 1-11 v O'Hanlons 0-06
Eire Og 2-10 v Corrinshigo 1-04
Killean—Bye
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on April 18, 2011, 04:47:31 PM
Granemore match was 1-19 to 0-4 not 1-18 to 0-5
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 19, 2011, 12:55:38 AM
Are the any clubs in Armagh that have folded the year? i heard shane o'Neills and belleeks but i see results for them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 19, 2011, 08:14:49 AM
Phelim Bradys and Mullabrack are not in playing in the leagues but are playing in the reserve leagues
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 19, 2011, 08:30:50 AM
Cheers lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on April 19, 2011, 09:09:23 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 19, 2011, 08:14:49 AM
Phelim Bradys and Mullabrack are not in playing in the leagues but are playing in the reserve leagues

heard that last week, is it for definite?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gander on April 19, 2011, 04:03:26 PM
Quote from: gander on April 19, 2011, 09:09:23 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 19, 2011, 08:14:49 AM
Phelim Bradys and Mullabrack are not in playing in the leagues but are playing in the reserve leagues

heard that last week, is it for definite?

never mind, fixtures out today confirms it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 19, 2011, 11:13:43 PM
sad to see that happen to any club> times are bad men
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on April 20, 2011, 01:07:07 PM
Are they playing C'ship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on April 20, 2011, 02:54:57 PM
Cuchulainn Hurling Club Present '' Cuchulainns Got Talent''  this Easter Sunday in the Pearse Ogs Social Club. In conjunction with My Armagh, the Cuchulainns present a nights entertainment with talent being showcased from Armagh, Tyrone and as far away as Co Meath.  For only £5 entry how else would you want to spend your Easter Sunday evening. Not only are you supporting your County and local hurling club, but proceeds are also going to the Armagh Pilgrimage to Lourdes.
The action kicks off at 7.30p.m.

Anyone interested in attending just let me know!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 20, 2011, 07:29:50 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on April 20, 2011, 01:07:07 PM
Are they playing C'ship

As far as i am aware, they are both playing in the junior championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 20, 2011, 08:52:43 PM
Ballymacnab beat Culloville by 9 points tonight

Any other results?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 20, 2011, 08:55:04 PM
Granemore beat Cullyhanna by about eleven points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 20, 2011, 08:56:03 PM
Cross v Cruppen game off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on April 20, 2011, 10:06:55 PM
Quote from: crossfire on April 20, 2011, 08:55:04 PM
Granemore beat Cullyhanna by about eleven points
st pats 0-8 granemore 2-15 . deserving winners on the night , st pts had a  sent off on 2 yellows in the second half , they were also missing k mc keever , m mackin , tasker . good win for us .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on April 20, 2011, 10:27:18 PM
Torres Granemore were also missing players
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 20, 2011, 10:52:37 PM
Whitecross beat the clans by 6 or 7 another stinking performance from les blues
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 20, 2011, 11:13:46 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 20, 2011, 10:52:37 PM
Whitecross beat the clans by 6 or 7 another stinking performance from les blues

Thats an accurate analysis there Win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 20, 2011, 11:27:43 PM
Maghery 1-12 Pearse Og 1-14
got out of jail tonight there. very poor sloppy performance but thems the games you wanna win i suppose. another 2 points on the board so cant complain.
had 2 penaltys. one went over and the other scored by sean moore. tommy turley probably ogs man of the match 2nd game running.
no.10 from maghery was very good from the dead ball. must have scored 8 or 9 points. might have got the goal aswell but i couldnt see from other end of pitch.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 20, 2011, 11:30:22 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on April 20, 2011, 10:27:18 PM
Torres Granemore were also missing players

Very few clubs in the country are missing as many as us at the minute. In any event, those who were there performed poorly and Granemore were full value for their comfortable victory.
Title: !
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 21, 2011, 06:38:22 AM
Quote from: crossfire on April 20, 2011, 08:55:04 PM
Granemore beat Cullyhanna by about eleven points

very good side imo outside the "big 3"cross,ogs,dromintee the dark horse the year!st pats without mcccooey and tasker slightly behind.  All the best to every1 in league/cship, but the winners will come from this lot imo!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 21, 2011, 08:56:31 AM
Full round up

Wednesday 20th April Simplyfruit.com ACL @ 7.15pm

Division 1
Cullaville 2-09 v Ballymacnab 2-18
Whitecross 0-17 v Clan na Gael 1-07
Dromintee 0-16 v Sarsfields 2-10
Maghery 1-12 v Pearse Og 1-14
Carrickcruppin v Crossmaglen—Off
St.Patricks 0-08 v Granemore 2-15

Division 2
Killeavy 3-14 v Armagh Harps 2-08
Clann Eireann 0-15 v Madden 1-12
Mullabawn 2-12 v Tullysarran 0-11
Shane O'Neills 0-09 v Silverbridge 3-09
Tir na nOg 0-12 v St.Michaels 0-18
Wolfe Tone 0-15 v Keady 0-08

Simplyfruit.com Junior Reserve League @ 7.15pm
Group A
Annaghmore 7-14 v Ballyhegan 3-11
St.Pauls 2-07 v Eire Og 3-15
St.Peters—Bye

Group B
Collegeland 3-07 v Grange 1-07
An Port Mor 5-10 v Derrynoose 2-07
Middletown 2-12 v Phelim Bradys 0-05

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on April 21, 2011, 10:08:19 AM
Quotevery good side imo outside the "big 3"cross,ogs,dromintee

I dont think Dromintee are in any Big 3 - they were totally hammered by the Ogs the other day...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on April 21, 2011, 10:12:27 AM
It looks like it could be a long old season for 2 former big guns - Clans and Harps. You can wreck your season early on in the league with 4 or 5 bad results....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 21, 2011, 10:22:40 AM
well that could be the case scarface but there is plenty of time to turn it around no one is doomed yet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on April 21, 2011, 11:37:18 AM
Culloville have done surprisingly well in Div 1 for the last couple of years, they could be in some difficulty this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 21, 2011, 11:59:09 AM
Quote from: Scarface on April 21, 2011, 10:08:19 AM
Quotevery good side imo outside the "big 3"cross,ogs,dromintee

I dont think Dromintee are in any Big 3 - they were totally hammered by the Ogs the other day...

league and championship totally different, dromintee knocking on the door a number of years to rule them out at this stage is foolish
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 21, 2011, 12:00:40 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on April 21, 2011, 10:22:40 AM
well that could be the case scarface but there is plenty of time to turn it around no one is doomed yet

fancied clans to get 4 points from opening two games.  Alot sterner tests in the league to come, could be a long summer at this rate. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on April 21, 2011, 12:27:25 PM
Chill out folks, the blues will click. New management team with new way of doing things and a whole heap of new young players. All the materials are there - it just takes time for it all to come together nicely.

Id rather start badly and play our way into contention in the summer than be one of those teams who starts like a house on fire and has pettered out by July.

For teams like Blyymacnab and Granemore this will be the challenge they face. A few good early results is quickly undone in this league which for my money is the most competitive its ever been...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on April 21, 2011, 07:59:39 PM
No one is writing anyone off here lads - keep it real. Clans would have expected something from those 2 'winnable' fixtures. Ballymacnab have got a great start which I feel was essential for them. Tougher times will lie ahead in the league but would 14 - 16 points not be near enough to stay up? They have 4 already. In my experience there were some easier points to pick up at the start of a league season as you could get the jump on a few teams as they may not have been as sharp as your own team. I would have been fairly confident that Granemore would do ok this year - fairly strong team and well organised. Clans and Harps have it all to do....if they want to achieve their 'league ambitions'. Thats my feeling on it anyway :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 22, 2011, 09:11:03 PM
Is there anywhere i can see the 2011 Armagh championship draws.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 22, 2011, 09:30:09 PM
Quote from: crossfire on April 22, 2011, 09:11:03 PM
Is there anywhere i can see the 2011 Armagh championship draws.?

Armagh Football Championships – 2011

Friday 22 July
Junior Championship Preliminary Round
Crossmaglen v Killean (Mullabrack) – (7.30)

Sunday 24 July
Junior Championship Preliminary Round
Forkhill v Mullabrack (Lissummon) – (2.00)
Annaghmore v Clonmore (Athletic Grounds) – (6.00)

Friday 29 July
Junior Championship 1st Round
Eire Og v Tullysaran (Ballyhegan) – (7.30)
Dromintee II v O'Hanlon's (Killeavy) – (7.30)
Belleek v St Patrick's II (Carrickcruppen) – (7.30)

Saturday 30 July
Junior Championship 1st Round
Corrinshego v Phelim Brady's (Dorsey) – (7.30)

Sunday 1 August
Junior Championship 1st Round
Clady v Dorsey Emmett's (Whitecross) – (7.30)

Wednesday 3 August
Junior Championship 1st Round
Lissummon v Forkhill/Mullabrack (Dromintee) – 7.30)
Derrynoose v Annaghmore/Clonmore (Pearse Og Park) – (7.30)
Killeavy II v Crossmaglen II/Killean (Cullyhanna) – (7.30)

Friday 5 August
Intermediate Championship 1st Round
St Peter's v Silverbridge (Athletic Grounds) – (7.30)

Saturday 6 August
Intermediate Championship 1st Round
Killeavy v Middletown (Athletic Grounds) – (6.00)
Culloville v Grange (Keady) – (6.00)

Sunday 7 August
Intermediate Championship 1st Round
Keady v Shane O'Neill's (Whitecross) – (2.00)
An Port Mor v Wolfe Tones (Portadown) – (4.00)
Collegeland v Madden (Athletic Grounds) – (6.00)

Monday 8 August
Intermediate Championship 1st Round
St Paul's v Tir na nÓg (St Peter's Park) – (7.30)

Friday 12 August
Senior Championship 1st Round
Carrickcruppen v Clan na Gael (Athletic Grounds) – (7.30)

Saturday 13 August
Senior Championship 1st Round
Clann Eireann v Crossmaglen (Athletic Grounds) – (6.00)

Sunday 14 August
Senior Championship 1st Round
Armagh Harps v Mullaghbawn (Cullyhanna) – (2.00)
Granemore v St Michael's (Keady) – (4.00)
Dromintee v Pearse Og (Athletic Grounds) – (6.00)

Monday 15 August
Senior Championship 1st Round
Maghery v Sarsfields (Clann Eireann) – (7.00)
St Patrick's v Whitecross (Athletic Grounds) – (8.00)

Friday/Saturday/Sunday 19/20/21 August
Junior Championship 2nd Round

Wednesday/Friday/Saturday/Monday 24/26/27/29 August
Intermediate Championship 2nd Round

Friday/Saturday/Monday 2/3/5 September
Senior Championship 2nd Round

Friday/Saturday/Sunday 9/10/11 September
Junior Championship Semi-finals

Wednesday/Friday 14/16 September
Intermediate Championship Semi-finals

Saturday/Sunday 24/25 September
Senior Championship Semi-finals

Sunday 2 October
Intermediate Championship Final

Sunday 9 October
Junior Championship Final

Sunday 16 October
Senior Football Final


NB - Ballyhegan & Ballymacnab both have Byes in the initial round of the Intermediate & Senior Championships.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 22, 2011, 11:36:04 PM
ACL Division 1: Granemore 2-15  St Patrick's 0-8

The joy of opening day victory in Culloville proved to be shortlived for a Cullyhanna side which slumped to a heavy defeat in their first home game of the season. Played last Wednesday night in front of a bumper crowd in conditions more accustomed to mid-June than mid-April, St Pat's were hampered from before the throw in with experienced players Shane Lennon and Mal Mackin having been added to our ever-increasing injury list after being up knocks against Culloville. Indeed the depth of our selection difficulties is illustrated by the statistic that only five of those who started the Senior championship replay against Crossmaglen six months ago were on the pitch at throw in on Wednesday.

The match started reasonably well for St Pat's with Liam O'Hare kicking an early point from play before Granemore waltzed through the Cullyhanna defence for an equalising point after 5 minutes. Two minutes later the newly promoted side kicked themselves in the lead with a great point from a narrow angle. That was to be a lead the mid-Armagh men never relinquished as they took a stranglehold on the match, dominating midfield and capitalising on the all too frequent errors in possession from St Pat's players. With 20 minutes gone, the Granemore advantage had been extended to five points before two Eugene Casey pointed frees either side of a Granemore point reduced the deficit somewhat. Another Granemore point followed before the first goal of the match arrived. Unsurprisingly, given the pattern of the match, it was the mid-Armagh men who rattled the net, their pacey corner forward showing the St Pat's defence a clean pair of heels before rifling to the net. The sides next exchanged points with the Cullyhanna score coming from a Shane McKeever free. The game was finished as a contest on 28 minutes when a good Granemore passing movement cut through the Cullyhanna defence at will. As had been their trait throughout the half, the man in possession was well supported and it was the Granemore midfielder who finished to the net to give his side an unassailable lead. To be fair to St Pat's they rallied somewhat in the latter stages of the half with pointed frees from Eugene Casey and Shane McKeever respectively to leave the half-time score Granemore 2-9 St Patrick's 0-6.

With the game effectively over as a contest by half-time, the second half was a somewhat turgid affair. It took twelve minutes for Granemore to increase the lead to double figures before Shane McKeever achieved his hat-trick of pointed frees after a foul on Rory McMahon. In a half characterised by poor passing and basic errors from St Pat's, their game efforts to reduce the deficit reaped few rewards. Indeed it was the away side which finished the stronger reeling off three points in a row between the 23rd and 25th minutes of the half. On 27 minutes St Pat's managed their second point from play of the match when Rory O'Neill collected a Kieran Hoey pass before kicking a lovely score. That was to be a good as it got for Cullyhanna as Granemore finished the match  with two late points and indeed it took a point-blank save from goalkeeper Deaglan McArdle to prevent a third goal from Granemore. Final score:  Granemore 2-15 St Patrick's 0-8.

While the missing players are certainly a factor, they cannot be used an excuse for a performance such as this given that Granemore dominated the match from start to finish against a St Pat's side who struggled to gain primary possession and were almost wholly reliant on freetakers for scores. That said, this result will have hurt the players far more than any supporter and I have no doubt that they will be determined to put in an improved display against Pearse Óg in Armagh on Wednesday night.

Starting XV: D McArdle; P McKeever, S Reel, S O'Neill; B Savage, E McArdle, M Murray; R McMahon, K Hoey; C Nugent, L O'Hare (0-1), A Mackin; R O'Neill (0-1), S McKeever (0-2), E Casey (0-2). Subs Used: N McShane, K O'Neill, P Casey, K McEvoy
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2011, 11:11:08 AM
Sean tracey's pitch. What is the name of the road its on please?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on April 24, 2011, 11:16:48 AM
not 100 % but it is right beside Kilwilkie so if u head for there it is 2 mins around the corner
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 24, 2011, 11:38:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 24, 2011, 11:11:08 AM
Sean tracey's pitch. What is the name of the road its on please?

North Circular road
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 24, 2011, 07:38:58 PM
Thanks El Cuervo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: apres_match on April 26, 2011, 11:58:50 AM
Been a good while since I've been on this, any word of a round of fixtures tomorrow night lads?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on April 26, 2011, 08:41:29 PM
What about fixtures for Sunday? Nothing in the Irish News today except underage and women.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 26, 2011, 09:30:11 PM
Quote from: apres_match on April 26, 2011, 11:58:50 AM
Been a good while since I've been on this, any word of a round of fixtures tomorrow night lads?

Wed 27th
Div 1
W'cross v Cross
C'ville v Clans
Ogs v Pats
G'more v Nab
Sars v Maghery
Cruppin v Dromintee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 27, 2011, 08:20:56 PM
Half time

G'more 0 - 4
Nab 0 - 7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 27, 2011, 09:01:21 PM
Full time

G'more 1 - 10
Nab 0 - 7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on April 27, 2011, 09:09:02 PM
Harps won by 2, did their best throw it away
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 27, 2011, 09:41:21 PM
Cross Rangers 1-12 Whitecross 1-5.

Score at half time was 1-4 each but Cross pulled away in the last 15 minutes.

Any other results
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on April 27, 2011, 09:57:46 PM
Tír na nÓg beat Silverbridge 1-10 to 1-8 I believe.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 27, 2011, 10:08:39 PM
Pearse Og 0-7 - 0-9 St.Patrick's
Cullyhana totally deserved their win
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 27, 2011, 10:34:13 PM
Culloville 1-10 Clan na Gael 1-16. I think that was the scoreline.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 27, 2011, 10:42:10 PM
Magnificent second half performance from Cullyhanna tonight with a makeshift side who performed heroically.

Absolutely delighted  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on April 27, 2011, 10:48:20 PM
tones beat killeavey 2-17 to 1-12 up in killeavey.  Great first half performance with our boys going in 2-11 to 0-2 up at ht. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 28, 2011, 06:40:44 PM
Tac was that you standing against the fence with notepad and blackberry??  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on April 28, 2011, 10:27:02 PM
QuoteTac was that you standing against the fence with notepad and blackberry??

Janey, people's nicknames in Cullyhanna have changed since my day, imagine being called notepad, and blackberry would be worse.  :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twenty one yard free on April 28, 2011, 11:10:05 PM
by the end of july there will be worse names floating about armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Erwin Rommel on April 28, 2011, 11:54:44 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 27, 2011, 10:42:10 PM
Magnificent second half performance from Cullyhanna tonight with a makeshift side who performed heroically.

Absolutely delighted  ;D

Didn't see that one coming. did you notice if the sidelines were in a bit?

Narrow ptch usually hampers Pearse ogs expansive football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 29, 2011, 12:50:29 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 28, 2011, 10:27:02 PM
QuoteTac was that you standing against the fence with notepad and blackberry??

Janey, people's nicknames in Cullyhanna have changed since my day, imagine being called notepad, and blackberry would be worse.  :P

Twas meself alright. I was keeping up to date withevents at the Bernebeu on the phone. I presume the notepad gave the game away given my PRO status?

As for nicknames, we seem to have something of a penchant for idiotic monikers in Cullyhanna. I've variously heard people playing for the club be called Widgery, Jackson, Brookie, Bomber, Cluck, Savo, Sleepy, Chunk, Stafford, Slunky, Shoulders, schillaci, Foxy amongst other colourful names. I'll let you work out for yourselves what my own was.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on April 29, 2011, 01:10:42 AM
Quote from: Erwin Rommel on April 28, 2011, 11:54:44 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 27, 2011, 10:42:10 PM
Magnificent second half performance from Cullyhanna tonight with a makeshift side who performed heroically.

Absolutely delighted  ;D

Didn't see that one coming. did you notice if the sidelines were in a bit?

Narrow ptch usually hampers Pearse ogs expansive football.

The wider pitches do help us out... I think they played the Harps on a wider pitch recently. Seemed to work out that night  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 29, 2011, 11:44:45 PM
St Patrick's 0-10 Pearse Óg 0-8

The St Pat's senior side travelled to Ballycrummy on Wednesday night having experienced a sobering defeat to Granemore the week previously. With another two players lost to the current ravaging injury crisis, there were few expecting an away victory against the 2009 county champions who have been in impressive early season form. Played in ideal conditions on a beautiful evening, the match commenced in fairly bland circumstances as each side struggled to create scoring opportunities in what were fairly even opening exchanges. Indeed nine minutes had passed before Pearse Ógs fisted the opening point of the match. Two minutes later, Ógs fired another point before a couple of goal chances went begging for the home side which could have put them almost out of sight within the first quarter. Despite being under severe pressure at this stage, Cullyhanna persevered and after 18 minutes Shane McKeever pointed a difficult free however this was soon cancelled out by a long range Pearse Ógs point. Soon after, a terrific interception and well delivered pass from Eugene Casey found Liam O'Hare who kicked a great point from a tight angle to bring the St Pat's within the minimum.

In the latter stages of the half, Pearse Ógs pressed to extend their advantage but failed to turn territorial dominance into scores as some stout defending put the Pearse Óg attackers under sufficient pressure to prevent points. On 29 minutes goalkeeper Deaglan McArdle had to react sharply to prevent a Pearse Ógs goal however the half ended on a pleasing note for St Pat's when a speculative ball forward bounced over a Pearse Ógs defender to put Kieran Hoey through on goal. Given the distance between himself and the goal and onrushing goalkeeper, Hoey no doubt choose the sensible option when chipping the ball over for a point to leave the sides level at half-time on a scoreline of St Patrick's 0-3 Pearse Ógs 0-3. Cullyhanna were perhaps fortunate to be level at half-time having played second fiddle to their opponents for much of the half however they deserved huge credit for their efforts and the manner in which they defended to restrict the Ógs to such a low first half score.

The second period was always likely to be more freescoring and within three minutes Pearse Ógs had almost doubled their first half tally with a long range score and a pointed free.  St Pat's replied with a good Eugene Casey point on five minutes and a minute later, a Shane McKeever free levelled matters once more. St Pat's edged into the lead for the first time when the ever dangerous Liam O'Hare was hauled down while soloing though the Pearse Ógs defence. Shane McKeever pointed the resultant free as Cullyhanna enjoyed their best spell of the match, producing some attractive following football. With 10 minutes remaining a long range Pearse Óg point levelled the match but within a minute Kieran Hoey won a ball in the corner before showing great speed and strength to burst past his marker and kick an excellent score.

The scores continued to flow as the game turned into a magnificent tussle with Pearse Ógs replying almost immediately with an excellent score. Kieran Hoey continued to inspire his teammates when collecting a Aidan Mackin pass. Despite facing away from goal, he turned, surged past two defenders and fisted a vital point to put his side a point to the good. With 3 minutes to go, Shane McKeever was faced with a placed ball 45m from goal to put his sides two in front. Rather than attempt an unlikely score, Shane McKeever used all his experience to select the correct option and exchanged passes with Niall McShane before passing to Eugene Casey.  With little time to assess his options, Casey was left with a difficult kick, 25m from goal and facing a tight angle. Yet, despite the pressure of the situation, he struck the ball hard and true, scoring a magnificent point with the aid of the post, to the sheer delight of the travelling supporters. The game was not yet won however as Pearse Ógs reduced the deficit to a single point on 28 minutes. The spectators were on tenterhooks as Pearse Ógs desperately tried to fashion an equalising score but the Cullyhanna defence held firm and avoided the concession of any rash frees. When eventually St Pat's regained possession, they used the ball wisely and precisely, retaining possession before Kieran Hoey was fouled. Despite the pressure of the kick, Shane McKeever made no mistake, putting his side two points in front and ensuring that only a goal would prevent victory. Try as Pearse Ógs might to fashion the major score, it was never likely given the tenacity and skill of the St Pat's tackling. As they came towards goal with menace late on, a magnificent steal robbed the Armagh men of possession and even though they attacked again in waves, when Eamon McArdle won possession for St Pat's, the final whistle blew and the victory was secured on a scoreline of St Patrick's 0-10 Pearse Ógs 0-8.

This was a magnificent performance and indeed no superlatives within my vocabulary can properly describe the effort, commitment and desire displayed by the Cullyhanna side. Heading into such a difficult fixture with a makeshift squad, it took a combination of quality and courage to produce such a superb and fully merited victory. It is perhaps unfair to single out individuals on an evening when all fifteen were heoric but Liam O'Hare was a constant threat while the victory could not have been secured without the sterling performance of Deaglan McArdle in goals. Kieran O'Neill produced a great hour's effort, Shane McKeever was unerring in his accuracy from frees while Kieran Hoey was magnificent throughout. It can only be hoped that this performance is one which can be used as a foundation for a successful season.


Starting XV: D McArdle; S O'Neill, S Reel, P McKeever; C Nugent, N McShane, E McArdle; K O'Neill, P Casey; R O'Neill, E Casey (0-2), A Mackin; S McKeever (0-4), K Hoey (0-3), L O'Hare (0-1)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 30, 2011, 04:15:59 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on April 29, 2011, 12:50:29 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on April 28, 2011, 10:27:02 PM
QuoteTac was that you standing against the fence with notepad and blackberry??

Janey, people's nicknames in Cullyhanna have changed since my day, imagine being called notepad, and blackberry would be worse.  :P

Twas meself alright. I was keeping up to date withevents at the Bernebeu on the phone. I presume the notepad gave the game away given my PRO status?

As for nicknames, we seem to have something of a penchant for idiotic monikers in Cullyhanna. I've variously heard people playing for the club be called Widgery, Jackson, Brookie, Bomber, Cluck, Savo, Sleepy, Chunk, Stafford, Slunky, Shoulders, schillaci, Foxy amongst other colourful names. I'll let you work out for yourselves what my own was.

Can I guess? I played football with a guy called Hoof for 7 years still dont know his real name.

They just dont have nicknames like that anymore though.  My brother tells a story that in the early 90's he went to Boston for the summer.  He had flown Belfast------> London--------> Amsterdam ------> Boston as a result he had had a lot to drink and when asked by Immigration who he was staying with he could only remember his soon to be housemates nicknames of stumpy and tree trunk.  As a result Immigration refused him entry and he was sent back to Amsterdam
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on May 01, 2011, 03:34:09 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on April 27, 2011, 10:34:13 PM
Culloville 1-10 Clan na Gael 1-16. I think that was the scoreline.


Clans beat granmore in Lurgan by 2 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 01, 2011, 04:01:00 PM
Ballymacnab 1-8 Pearse Og 3-9
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 01, 2011, 05:39:44 PM
St Pat's 0-8 Sarsfields 0-6

Heard Whitecross beat Culloville after scoring 4 goals in the latter stages of the first half.

Great result for Clans.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 01, 2011, 05:57:48 PM
Well deserved win for the Clans, IMO the scoreline actually flatters Granemore, nevertheless two more points on the board. 0-11 to 1-6 I think it ended.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on May 01, 2011, 06:33:27 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on May 01, 2011, 05:57:48 PM
Well deserved win for the Clans, IMO the scoreline actually flatters Granemore, nevertheless two more points on the board. 0-11 to 1-6 I think it ended.


Clans fully deserved their win.
The performance today was a joke no bite from the players at all. I know we were beat but the ref was an absolute clown clearly hadnt knowledge of any rules. On one occasion he give a free to the Clans when one of our players apparently dived
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 01, 2011, 07:44:32 PM

St Patrick's 0-8 Sarsfields 0-6

The senior side were allowed little time to dwell on their midweek
victory, being pressed into action a mere four days later when
Sarsfields visited St Patrick's Park. While St Pat's may well have
been cast in the role of favourites, this was never likely to be a
comfortable match. And so it proved from the early stages as within a
minute Sarsfields should have opened a three point lead were it not
for a point blank save from Deaglan McArdle which prevented an early
goal. The Derrytrasna men required only a further minute however to
open their account with a lovely point. After three minutes, Eugene
Casey equalised matters showing great strength to resist the
Sarsfields defence while kicking a point. Returning county man Mal
Mackin put St Pat's in the lead soon after as Cullyhanna began to get
to grips with the strong breeze which they faced in the first half.
Sarsfields began to use the wind to their advantage in the middle
period of the half as their dominance at midfield resulted in two
points which put them into the lead. On 19 minutes a great defensive
catch by Stephen Reel instigated a Cullyhanna attack which resulted in
Kieran Hoey collecting a ball at pace before kicking a fine score. The
game then entered a scoreless spell before strong work down the
sideline by Ciaran O'Neill allowed Mal Mackin to pass the ball to
Pearse Casey who kicked a lovely score with his left foot to register
what will no doubt be his first of many points for the senior team. A
good Sarfields point followed before a late Shane McKeever pointed
free put his side into a half-time lead on a scoreline of St Patrick's
0-5 Sarsfield 0-4.

The conventional wisdom would have suggested that a Cullyhanna side
which led after facing a very difficult wind in the first half would
go on to register a comfortable victory however nothing was to come
easy in this second half as St Pat's struggled to use the advantage of
the breeze. It took seven minutes before Shane McKeever extended the
one point advantage, scoring a point from 40m under the severest
pressure. Nine minutes into the half Kieran Hoey laid a pass off to
Rory O'Neill who kicked a fine point and when a magnificent long range
free from Eugene put Cullyhanna four points in the lead, the game
looked over as a contest. However the final twenty minutes of the
match were to elapse without Cullyhanna troubling the scoreboard
further as the game almost slipped beyond their grasp. Indeed had the
Sarsfields' attackers not volleyed a ball over the bar when an overlap
had been created and the goal seemed at their mercy, the match could
well have been lost. In the end, a further Sarsfields pointed field
was the most the away side could muster as St Pat's held on for the
victory on a scoreline of St Patrick's 0-8 Sarsfields 0-6.

This was a far from classic encounter which will not live long in the
memory. The quality of football was severely hampered by an
unseasonably strong wind which dictated affairs to a large extent.
However the two points secured were most welcome and despite the
lengthy injury list, the 2011 season has commenced more positively
than either of the past two years. Certainly all those involved
deserve immense credit for the results which have been achieved. Best
on the day for Cullyhanna were probably Peter McKeever and Niall
McShane in defence, as well as Eugene Casey up front.

Starting XV: D McArdle; S O' Neill, S Reel, P McKeever; C O'Neill, N
McShane, C Nugent; E McArdle, P Casey (0-1); R O'Neill (0-1), E Casey
(0-2), A Mackin; K Hoey (0-1), S McKeever (0-2), M Mackin (0-1). Subs
Used: C McGlade, G McCooey
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on May 01, 2011, 09:21:44 PM
O'Hanlons bate Dromintee IIs.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 01, 2011, 09:58:57 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 01, 2011, 09:21:44 PM
O'Hanlons bate Dromintee IIs.

Barney's training regime has obviously worked wonders for the Poyntzpass men.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on May 01, 2011, 10:14:30 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 01, 2011, 09:58:57 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 01, 2011, 09:21:44 PM
O'Hanlons bate Dromintee IIs.

Barney's training regime has obviously worked wonders for the Poyntzpass men.

not exactly dromintee have the chances however 12 2nd half wides i think did the damage as out lads couldnt get to grip witht he wind at all!! one that got away form us I feel!! beat by 4 in the end
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 02, 2011, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on May 01, 2011, 06:33:27 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on May 01, 2011, 05:57:48 PM
Well deserved win for the Clans, IMO the scoreline actually flatters Granemore, nevertheless two more points on the board. 0-11 to 1-6 I think it ended.


Clans fully deserved their win.
The performance today was a joke no bite from the players at all. I know we were beat but the ref was an absolute clown clearly hadnt knowledge of any rules. On one occasion he give a free to the Clans when one of our players apparently dived

I thought the ref done well and in the latter stages actually favoured Granemore with a few soft scoring frees. The incident you refer to was clearly not a free however O'Connor did dive trying to buy a free so it deserved him right. But that was the first time i have ever seen a free given for that in gaelic :D. The pitch was also like the road but beggers can't be choosers and fair play to St Peter's for the loan
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 02, 2011, 01:21:28 PM
Yes fair play to the flourbags for the use of their pitch, the lure of first division football was obviously too hard to turn down... ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 02, 2011, 02:35:22 PM
I heard Gareth Swift and James Lavery got bad injury's yesterday...POR will be seething and still another few rounds of club football to go before he takes them away for a few months
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 02, 2011, 02:54:13 PM
Heard also there was a lad seriously hurt in the keady game? anyone know anything about the incident?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on May 02, 2011, 03:55:32 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 02, 2011, 02:54:13 PM
Heard also there was a lad seriously hurt in the keady game? anyone know anything about the incident?

Player in question took a shoulder to the neck/head area and was knocked out.
Ambulance called for and player taken away, no other news.
Fair play to both managements on agreeing to call a final whistle despite some game time still left.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on May 02, 2011, 03:57:25 PM
taking the plunge tonight big man, any advice ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on May 02, 2011, 07:46:15 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 02, 2011, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on May 01, 2011, 06:33:27 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on May 01, 2011, 05:57:48 PM
Well deserved win for the Clans, IMO the scoreline actually flatters Granemore, nevertheless two more points on the board. 0-11 to 1-6 I think it ended.


Clans fully deserved their win.
The performance today was a joke no bite from the players at all. I know we were beat but the ref was an absolute clown clearly hadnt knowledge of any rules. On one occasion he give a free to the Clans when one of our players apparently dived

I thought the ref done well and in the latter stages actually favoured Granemore with a few soft scoring frees. The incident you refer to was clearly not a free however O'Connor did dive trying to buy a free so it deserved him right. But that was the first time i have ever seen a free given for that in gaelic :D. The pitch was also like the road but beggers can't be choosers and fair play to St Peter's for the loan
catch a grip winsamsoon ,the ref was a one-sided clown . we did,nt deserve anything from the game on that performance but to accuse a player of diving is wrong i and most of the granemore followers could see the defender clearly clipped his heels when he was bearing down on goals ,  there were 2 pts in it at that stage why would he or anyone go down to buy a free when they have a chance of going for goal so late in the game . clann na gael deserved their victory so good luck to them .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 02, 2011, 07:51:39 PM
Trust me lad his heels weren't clipped no matter what u seen. I was 2 yards away from it and he actually jumped into the defender and then fell to the ground.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on May 02, 2011, 09:11:53 PM
Quote from: centrefield on May 01, 2011, 10:14:30 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 01, 2011, 09:58:57 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 01, 2011, 09:21:44 PM
O'Hanlons bate Dromintee IIs.

Barney's training regime has obviously worked wonders for the Poyntzpass men.

not exactly dromintee have the chances however 12 2nd half wides i think did the damage as out lads couldnt get to grip witht he wind at all!! one that got away form us I feel!! beat by 4 in the end

The ref was very good - dont know his name - he was anonymous yet in control.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 02, 2011, 10:46:31 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 02, 2011, 09:11:53 PM
Quote from: centrefield on May 01, 2011, 10:14:30 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 01, 2011, 09:58:57 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 01, 2011, 09:21:44 PM
O'Hanlons bate Dromintee IIs.

Barney's training regime has obviously worked wonders for the Poyntzpass men.

not exactly dromintee have the chances however 12 2nd half wides i think did the damage as out lads couldnt get to grip witht he wind at all!! one that got away form us I feel!! beat by 4 in the end

The ref was very good - dont know his name - he was anonymous yet in control.

Clearly!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on May 03, 2011, 09:07:50 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on May 02, 2011, 03:57:25 PM
taking the plunge tonight big man, any advice ;)

Fair play till ye!! Mini McClatchey - remember 50-50 no further any back chat just walk it another 10m
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 03, 2011, 09:14:02 AM
"You keep talking I'll keep walking!"
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on May 03, 2011, 09:41:08 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on May 02, 2011, 03:57:25 PM
taking the plunge tonight big man, any advice ;)

Blow it up early and go home and watch el classico!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on May 03, 2011, 11:32:46 AM
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on May 03, 2011, 09:41:08 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on May 02, 2011, 03:57:25 PM
taking the plunge tonight big man, any advice ;)

Blow it up early and go home and watch el classico!

if last weeks fiasco is anything to go by, aim for extra time!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on May 03, 2011, 01:37:48 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on May 02, 2011, 03:57:25 PM
taking the plunge tonight big man, any advice ;)

Good lad spirit. There'll be some rows now. You're gonna end up getting some booting on here
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PAULD123 on May 03, 2011, 02:03:07 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 02, 2011, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on May 01, 2011, 06:33:27 PM
Clans fully deserved their win.
The performance today was a joke no bite from the players at all. I know we were beat but the ref was an absolute clown clearly hadnt knowledge of any rules. On one occasion he give a free to the Clans when one of our players apparently dived

I thought the ref done well and in the latter stages actually favoured Granemore with a few soft scoring frees. The incident you refer to was clearly not a free however O'Connor did dive trying to buy a free so it deserved him right. But that was the first time i have ever seen a free given for that in gaelic :D. The pitch was also like the road but beggers can't be choosers and fair play to St Peter's for the loan

I have no idea if it was a dive or a foul, but just thought I'd mention that diving is indeed covered by the rules of Gaelic football. So it is a legitimate reason to give a free kick if the ref thought he did it:

Rule 5.20 - To attempt to achieve an advantage by feigning a foul or injury.
PENALTY FOR ABOVE FOUL -
(i) Caution offender; order off for second cautionable foul.
(ii) If play has been stopped for the foul, a free kick from where play was stopped,
except as provided under Exceptions of Rule 2.2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 03, 2011, 03:39:11 PM
That's a great shout Paul and and even better call by the ref. Hats of to the man as he got it spot on. Not sure who the ref was there seems to be a good number of new ones this years which imo is a good thing
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on May 03, 2011, 04:10:18 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 03, 2011, 03:39:11 PM
That's a great shout Paul and and even better call by the ref. Hats of to the man as he got it spot on. Not sure who the ref was there seems to be a good number of new ones this years which imo is a good thing

You must the only one that thinks the ref was half decent on sunday as i was talking to a number of Clans supporters and they were dumb-struck at some of his decisions. Were you at the game at all??? ??? ??? :o :o :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 03, 2011, 04:21:22 PM
No I wasn't at the game ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on May 03, 2011, 05:23:34 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 03, 2011, 04:21:22 PM
No I wasn't at the game ;)


Then you must be blind!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 03, 2011, 05:31:47 PM
U cite the incidents then u thought he got wrong?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on May 03, 2011, 06:07:27 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 03, 2011, 05:31:47 PM
U cite the incidents then u thought he got wrong?

To be honest their is to many to mention but i will give you a few examples;

Our county man was fouled on every kick out and was wrongfully yellow carded
Our corner back won a ball that came in and he ran and was being clearly pulled and got a free gave against him
And as we have already said about the so called diving incident
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 03, 2011, 06:28:54 PM
Ok your county player imo opinion was fouling as much as anyone else it's a rough game around the middle therefore thay was six of one and half a dozen the other. Granted he may not have warranted a booking. Don't recall the corner back one but soup campbell was nearly raped on at least 3 occassions and no free came. It was posted here earlier that a dive is in fact a free kick, o'connor dove straight into our half back and flung himself to the ground therefore according to the rules it was a free. Nevertheless there were no game changing decisions so the ref couldn't have been that bad.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on May 03, 2011, 08:50:01 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 03, 2011, 06:28:54 PM
Ok your county player imo opinion was fouling as much as anyone else it's a rough game around the middle therefore thay was six of one and half a dozen the other. Granted he may not have warranted a booking. Don't recall the corner back one but soup campbell was nearly raped on at least 3 occassions and no free came. It was posted here earlier that a dive is in fact a free kick, o'connor dove straight into our half back and flung himself to the ground therefore according to the rules it was a free. Nevertheless there were no game changing decisions so the ref couldn't have been that bad.

How could he foul when he was being held??

If both sets of supporters agree that the Ref was bad then he must have been. Your the only saying he isnt
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 03, 2011, 08:55:25 PM
If both sets of fans said he was bad then they surely they are opposing views. No? If he had robbed the clans then the supporters would have said he was bad they wouldn't have said this if he was in our favour and vice versa for granemore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on May 03, 2011, 09:22:55 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 03, 2011, 08:55:25 PM
If both sets of fans said he was bad then they surely they are opposing views. No? If he had robbed the clans then the supporters would have said he was bad they wouldn't have said this if he was in our favour and vice versa for granemore


::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on May 04, 2011, 12:41:05 PM
Referees in Armagh are bad 99% of the time. This guy was no different, however the referee had nothing to do with the outcome of the game.

The only reason Granemore were in touching distance was due to a horrific mistake by Clans keeper and a dozen easy chances missed by the men in blue.

Granemore looked quite poor to be honest maybe just a bad day at the office but they were outplayed all over the pitch.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on May 04, 2011, 04:51:26 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 04, 2011, 12:41:05 PM
Referees in Armagh are bad 99% of the time. This guy was no different, however the referee had nothing to do with the outcome of the game.

The only reason Granemore were in touching distance was due to a horrific mistake by Clans keeper and a dozen easy chances missed by the men in blue.

Granemore looked quite poor to be honest maybe just a bad day at the office but they were outplayed all over the pitch.

Worst performance i have ever seen from them looked like they thaught they had it won before the game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 04, 2011, 09:10:19 PM
Nab beat sarsfields tonight by 1 point
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on May 04, 2011, 09:32:16 PM
Granemore had a handy 13 point victory over culloville ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 04, 2011, 09:34:17 PM
Clans were beat by at least 7 by the ogs. Stinking first half came back into the game again got it back to two and the ogs stepped it up a gear won comfortable
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on May 04, 2011, 09:44:26 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 04, 2011, 12:41:05 PM
Granemore looked quite poor to be honest maybe just a bad day at the office but they were outplayed all over the pitch.

Proved wrong tonight.

For a poor team their not doing to bad in the league 8) ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 04, 2011, 09:49:44 PM
I think he meant they were poor on sunday not in general. We were poor tonight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 04, 2011, 09:52:14 PM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 04, 2011, 09:34:17 PM
Clans were beat by at least 7 by the ogs. Stinking first half came back into the game again got it back to two and the ogs stepped it up a gear won comfortable

I thought we were gonna throw it away when you made the comeback. That was a cracker goal to kick the comeback off for you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 04, 2011, 10:48:54 PM
St Patrick's 0-16 Carrickcruppen 0-14
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fcuksake on May 05, 2011, 12:12:40 AM
Harps 3-14 Tir na nOg 0-05
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on May 05, 2011, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on May 04, 2011, 09:44:26 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on May 04, 2011, 12:41:05 PM
Granemore looked quite poor to be honest maybe just a bad day at the office but they were outplayed all over the pitch.

Proved wrong tonight.

For a poor team their not doing to bad in the league 8) ;D
brilliant performance from our last lacklustre outing  , onwards and upwards  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on May 05, 2011, 01:23:21 PM
dromintee won by 3 - goal at the death gave us it after a fourtunate goal at he start of 2nd half...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 05, 2011, 01:27:40 PM
Who did dromintee beat
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 05, 2011, 03:58:54 PM
Whitecross i think. Why were Cross not playing does anyone know?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 06, 2011, 10:31:52 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on May 05, 2011, 03:58:54 PM
Whitecross i think. Why were Cross not playing does anyone know?

We were due to play Maghery in Cross but they requested a postponement.
The game is now to be played on sunday evening at 5.00
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 08, 2011, 06:48:02 PM
Cross and Maghery drew, 1-8 to 0-11.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on May 09, 2011, 04:16:22 PM
QuoteCross and Maghery drew, 1-8 to 0-11.

What happened, did half of the Cross team forget to come to the rescheduled game!" 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 09, 2011, 04:17:51 PM
Just going to be a strange year for results
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on May 09, 2011, 06:20:42 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on May 09, 2011, 04:16:22 PM
QuoteCross and Maghery drew, 1-8 to 0-11.

What happened, did half of the Cross team forget to come to the rescheduled game!"

You find that Maghery have regulalry got points off us over the years ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 12, 2011, 02:23:23 PM
Clans beat st Paul's in the B championship last night. Any other results
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 12, 2011, 03:25:03 PM
Harps Won easy enough, think Pearse Og were beaten by 5?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 12, 2011, 03:29:12 PM
who beat the og's (beaten finalists last year)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Groucho on May 12, 2011, 04:53:37 PM
Maghery ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on May 12, 2011, 07:41:45 PM
Big result for Maghery there but in fairness they are usually handy enough in the b's. Is there another draw happening?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 13, 2011, 08:46:02 AM
Dromintee V Harps Wed 25th May in next Round
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on May 13, 2011, 09:30:40 AM
"B" Simplyfruit.com Championship Draws



Wednesday 25th May @7.30pm

(First named Home Venue, ET if needed)

Round 1

Sarsfields        v          Annaghmore

Dromintee       v          Armagh Harps

Granemore      v          Tir na nOg

Eire Og            v          Madden

Carrickcruppen            v          Ballyhegan

Maghery          v          St.Peters

Ballymacnab   v          Silverbridge

Clan na Gael   v          Keady



U21 Simplyfruit.com Championship Draws



SENIOR

(First named Home Venue, ET if needed)

Dates TBA

Round 1

Killeavy           v          Dromintee

Clan na Gael   v          St.Pauls

St.Patricks       v          Pearse Og

St.Brigids        v          Armagh Harps

Granemore      v          Ballymacnab

Maghery          v          Mullaghbawn

Clann Eireann   v          Sarsfields

Crossmaglen    v          Carrickcruppen



INTERMEDIATE

(First named Home Venue, ET if needed)

Dates TBA

Preliminary Round

St.Peters          v          Keady

Madden           v          Wolfe Tone

Naomh Eoin    v          Ballyhegan

Round 1

St.Peters/Keady v      Silverbridge

Tir na nOg         v      Naomh Eoin/Ballyhegan

Corraghill Blues    v    Madden/Wolfe Tone

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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 13, 2011, 09:16:40 PM
Cross beat St Pats in Cullyhanna tonight, 0-12 to 0-7.

Any other results.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 13, 2011, 11:06:44 PM
Quote from: crossfire on May 13, 2011, 09:16:40 PM
Cross beat St Pats in Cullyhanna tonight, 0-12 to 0-7.

Any other results.?

Wolfe Tones beat Newtown by about 5 pts, from what i heard at the Tones game there was only 3 games played in the county tonight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on May 14, 2011, 11:14:51 PM
Quote from: Candyman on May 13, 2011, 08:46:02 AM
Dromintee V Harps Wed 25th May in next Round

as far as i no we have pulled out of the reserve league so i persume this rules us out of the b championship?!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on May 15, 2011, 11:10:23 AM
Jaysus, ur jokin? What was the reason... Numbers?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 15, 2011, 05:22:48 PM
Called into watch Eire Og v Dromintee IIs today, you's must be down huge numbers only saw about 17/18 stripped out, with the score ending 9-15 to 0-3. Looked like you had sent your minor team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 15, 2011, 05:48:01 PM
Crossmaglen Rangers 0-12 St Patrick's 0-7

A bumper crowd was in attendance at St Patrick's Park last Friday evening to witness the first clash between the sides since their epic 2010 championship battles. While each side lined out a substantially different team than on that occasion, the only Division 1 match to go ahead last weekend was always likely to be keenly contested. Cullyhanna were keen to make a positive start and they managed to do so with Pearse Casey getting the opening score of the match. A Shane McKeever free doubled the St Pat's advantage before a brace of Crossmaglen points drew the All Ireland champions level. Another Shane McKeever free edged his side back into the lead before Crossmaglen responded with two scores to gain the advantage. An excellent Crossmaglen free from near the sideline extended their lead to two points after 25 minutes before Eugene Casey contributed the final score of the half when he showed great strength to hold off a couple of Crossmaglen challenges before kicking a good point. This left the halftime score Crossmaglen 0-5 St Patrick's 0-4 which was a fair reflection of a very even half between two seemingly well matched teams although the Crossmaglen advantage would have been much greater had it not been for two excellent saves from Deaglan McArdle.

St Pat's were back on level terms within a minute of the second half when Genie McCooey made a stylish run through the Crossmaglen defence before managing an excellent point. In the early stages of the half Cullyhanna had the lion's share of possession but frustratingly, they struggled to make the crucial final pass to the inside forwards. After seven minutes Crossmaglen showed the greater incisiveness cutting through the Cullyhanna defence for a point. With 10 minutes gone in the half, a Eugene Casey free dropped short but substitute Robbie Tasker pounced onto the loose ball and marked his return with a point. Tasker was on the scoresheet two minutes later after a well delivered pass by Kyle McEvoy allowed him to kick a point. At that stage Cullyhanna were a point to the good and looked like they had every chance of securing the league points. However that was to be the final score of the match for St Pat's as their challenge petered out. Crossmaglen reacted to their deficit in great style, scoring three points in two minutes to regain a lead they were not to relinquish. The difference between the sides was evident in the final quarter as despite enjoying plenty of the ball, Cullyhanna could not break down a Crossmaglen defence and fell victim to a number of pacey counter-attacks. By the end Crossmaglen's total had extended to twelve points in all as they ran out winners on a scoreline of Crossmaglen Rangers 0-12 St Patrick's 0-7.

While this was a disappointing result and a far from vintage performance, the most pleasing aspect of the evening was the return to action of Tony Donnelly, Gary McCooey, Paudie McCreesh and Robbie Tasker as second half substitutes. As these players bed back into the side in the weeks to come, the side will hopefully get back to winning ways. Best on the night for St Pat's were Stephen Reel, Deaglan McArdle and Eugene Casey.

Starting XV: D McArdle; S O'Neill, S Reel, P McKeever; E McArdle, N McShane, C O'Neill; P Casey (0-1), E McArdle; R O'Neill, E Casey (0-1), G McCooey (0-1); K McEvoy, K Hoey, S McKeever (0-2). Subs Used: R Tasker (0-2), T Donnelly G McCooey, P McCreesh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on May 15, 2011, 07:45:53 PM
Quote from: Candyman on May 15, 2011, 11:10:23 AM
Jaysus, ur jokin? What was the reason... Numbers?

numbers indeed! senior squad are severly depleated with injuries at the minute (11/12) meaning that boys not starting at this stage last year have stepped up meaning not enough senior 'subs' to line out for reserves as under the rules only players that havent started the previous senior game can play which means 5/6 are eligible and with zero subs with zero subs form the 4ths team we are unable to field unfortunatley which is a disapointment.....on the eire og game today- hopefully its in the past as the team have improved well so far this year before this game and it would be disapointing to let things fall apart because of bad result.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 18, 2011, 10:31:14 PM
Ogs beat Granemore by a point tonight!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on May 18, 2011, 11:07:36 PM
... and I just heard that Keady beat the Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 19, 2011, 12:08:29 AM
St Patrick's II 1-8 Corrinshego 1-6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on May 20, 2011, 09:52:15 AM
Tír na nÓg Fight Night Friday 27th May
 
Fight 1
Dee McDonald vs Conor Coulter (Armagh Harps)
 
Fight 2
Sean Magill vs Sean Nixon (Ballyhegan)
 
Fight 3
Tommy Hamill vs Gerard Kerr (Ballyhegan)
 
Fight 4
Pearse McDonald vs Gary McKeever (Ballyhegan)
 
Fight 5
Darragh McKee vs Paddy Lennon (Clan na Gael)
 
Fight 6
Jamie McAleenan vs Jimi McNally (St Malachy's HC)
 
Fight 7
Eugene McCann vs Mark Bradshaw (Corrinshego)
 
Fight 8
Mark Smith vs Eamonn Rafferty (Eire Og)
 
Fight 9
Kieran Mulholland vs Marc Davidson
 
Fight 10
Kieran McCann vs Shane Mulgrew (Donaghmore)
 
Plus 3 other bouts involving Gary Judge, Seamie Judge & Andrew Neeson, opponents TBC.
 
Admission £20 by ticket only, doors open 7pm. I have some tickets if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on May 20, 2011, 07:03:45 PM
Quote from: ogshead on May 18, 2011, 10:31:14 PM
Ogs beat Granemore by a point tonight!!
while we had chances late on to clinch victory it would,ve been rough justice on the ogs who had the majority of play  and missed some gilt edge chances themselves .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on May 20, 2011, 09:47:37 PM
Clans and whitecross drew in the reserves. Exciting game. We only travelled with 15 and went a man down near the end due to an injury. Hung in there for a result. Not a vintage performance by either team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 20, 2011, 10:12:36 PM
Cross beat Ballymacnab away by 1-16 to 2-9.

This was a very good game which could have gone either way with Cross only getting their goal in injury time from a penalty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on May 20, 2011, 10:20:30 PM
Quote from: crossfire on May 20, 2011, 10:12:36 PM
Cross beat Ballymacnab away by 1-16 to 2-9.

This was a very good game which could have gone either way with Cross only getting their goal in injury time from a penalty.

Was a good game of football, very end to end stuff. What did you think of the ref crossfire?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 20, 2011, 11:34:46 PM
ACL Division 4: St Patrick's II 1-11 Killeavy II 1-11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 21, 2011, 02:51:17 PM
Quote from: downtown on May 20, 2011, 10:20:30 PM
Quote from: crossfire on May 20, 2011, 10:12:36 PM
Cross beat Ballymacnab away by 1-16 to 2-9.

This was a very good game which could have gone either way with Cross only getting their goal in injury time from a penalty.

Was a good game of football, very end to end stuff. What did you think of the ref crossfire?
There are no good referees in our county and he was no worse than the rest.

At least he wasn't biased which makes a change.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 22, 2011, 04:35:27 PM
Cruppen 2-06 clans  1-09
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 23, 2011, 12:20:38 AM
St Patrick's II 1-8 Corrinshego 1-6

After a month out of action, the Seconds side were plunged back into
action with three home fixtures in five days as their League campaign
got up and running. The first of these came last Wednesday at home to
Corrinshego. Prior to the match a minute's silence was impeccably
observed in tribute to the late Brendan McConville who had a great
affiliation to this team through his sons Neil and Mark.

The match was slow to start with both teams guilty of some early
misses before Corrinshego opened the scoring with a pointed free after
9 minutes. The match was soon equalised when a determined Brendan
Nugent run resulted in him kicking a good score from play. With scores
at a premium, a long range Corrinshego point put them back in the lead
however after 19 minutes St Pat's seized the advantage when a well
delivered free by Paudie Mackin was palmed to the net by Miceal
Connolly. It looked like that might be enough to secure a half-time
lead however unfortunately a needless penalty was conceded close to
the half hour mark. The kick was converted to the net to leave
Corrinshego a point ahead at the break on a scoreline of St Patrick's
1-1 Corrinshego 1-2. The quality of football was not exceptional in a
low scoring first half and while Corrinshego were perhaps the better
side over the half hour, a failure to take their chances meant that St
Pat's were very much in contention at the break.

The second half began with a Corrinshego point before Patsy McKeever
halved the deficit after benefiting from a Brendan Nugent pass to kick
a good point under pressure. A decent St Pat's move after 8 minutes
resulted in Brendan Murray score. While Corrinshego scored soon after,
a great point from distance by Kyle McEvoy put his side level again.
Eamon McArdle drove a point over the bar and Brendan Nugent put a free
over the bar to put St Pat's two in front. Corrinshego hauled
themselves back within a point with 8 minute remaining however Miceal
Connolly seized on a defensive lapse to kick a great point for
Cullyhanna. Two points behind heading into the latter stages,
Corrinshego were expected to pile on the pressure but try as they
might to breach the Cullyhanna defence, their only joy was to be a
single point. A late Cullyhanna point secured victory with the home
side winning on a scoreline of St Patrick's 1-8 Corrinshego 1-6.

This was a hard fought victory in which each team member played their
part. While the efforts of the opposition may have merited something
from the game, St Patrick's can be rightly proud of their efforts in
achieving victory. Man of the match was probably Peter Loughran.

St Patrick's II 1-11 Killeavy 1-11

On Friday night, Cullyhanna met their fellow Seconds team from
Killeavy in what was a thoroughly enjoyable hour's football. With the
team having had little respite since Wednesday's performance, it was
perhaps understandable that Killeavy started the brightest, kicking
two early scores, however St Pat's responded well as Patsy McKeever
led a fightback in which he kicked three points from play to seize the
advantage for his side. Halfway through the second half, Killeavy
gained the intiative as 1-4 without response handed them a commanding
6 point lead. At this juncture, St Pat's would perhaps have been
expected to resign themselves to an inevitable defeat however this
team are made from sterner stuff. In the final five minutes of the
half, Brendan Nugent combined with Brendan Murray for a point before
Patsy McKeever kicked a great long range point from play. Two late
pointed frees from Cathal O'Neill brought St Patrick's well back into
the match as the half ended with Killeavy leading by 1-6 to 0-7 after
an entertaining first half.

The quality of football did not diminish in the second period as
Killeavy extended their lead with two points. Five minutes into the
half a well directed Paudie Mackin pass resulted in a foul on Miceal
Connolly within the small rectangle. The resultant penalty was coolly
dispatched to the net by Mackin to put his team within a point however
Killeavy responded well wit a point soon after. A fisted point from
Brendan Nugent bought his side back within the minimum before two
Killeavy points put the away side 3 ahead with 10 minutes remaining. A
pointed Brendan Nugent free began the fightback and with 8 minutes
remaining a well placed Paudie Mackin free found Miceal Connolly. He
transferred the ball well to Paul Donnelly at pace who held off
numerous challenges to kick an excellent point. As the match ebbed and
flowed, the equalising score was finally secured as man of the match
Patsy McKeever kicked an excellent point with two minutes remaining to
level to teams at 1-11 apiece. That was to be the final act in a
dramatic and exciting match which neither side deserved to lose.

Starting XV: F Murphy; C Thompson, E McArdle, M Rowland; P Donnelly
(0-1), P Loughran, P McLoughran; P O'Neill, K Toner; C O'Neill (0-2),
P Mackin (1-0), B Nugent (0-2); B Murray (0-1), M Connolly, P McKeever
(0-5) Subs Used: B Quinn, A Murray, S Nugent

St Patrick's II 3-8 Dromintee 0-4

The trilogy ended on Sunday afternoon as the Seconds side secured an
excellent victory with a good performance marked by the return to
playing action of goalkeeper Paul Mackin. His well placed kickouts
were the foundation of an excellent Cullyhanna performance in which
they ran out comfortable winners. Goals from Cathal McGlade, Miceal
Connolly and Paudie Mackin were crucial in the victory while Brendan
Nugent top scored with 0-4. This was a fine performance which capped a
magnificent week for the Seconds team in which 5 of the available 6
points were secured.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 23, 2011, 12:22:23 AM
How did your seniors get on Tac
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 23, 2011, 12:24:06 AM
Division 1: St Patrick's 1-9 Dromintee 0-10

Another hard fought victory. In what hasn't been a vintage season in terms of performances, we seem to have developed the happy habit of winning tight matches.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 23, 2011, 12:25:11 AM
Cheers lad. Never seen this thread as quiet
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 23, 2011, 12:43:18 AM
I think most have migrated to the Orchard County Forum for their dose of club chat.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 23, 2011, 12:44:47 AM
I would still prefer old faithful
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 23, 2011, 01:11:25 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on May 23, 2011, 12:25:11 AM
Cheers lad. Never seen this thread as quiet

It's bad Win, usually on match days the results r flying in and match reports
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 23, 2011, 01:13:54 AM
Maghery beat whitecross 14-10 culloville beat sarsfields and pats beat 5 dromintee. These were the only other games played from what I can gather
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 23, 2011, 10:23:01 PM
I see that the Bridge home game against Si Michaels on Sunday was abandoned.

Can't blame the Cullyhanna boys this time. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pintsofguinness on May 23, 2011, 10:37:39 PM
Quote from: crossfire on May 23, 2011, 10:23:01 PM
I see that the Bridge home game against Si Michaels on Sunday was abandoned.

Can't blame the Cullyhanna boys this time. ;) ;D
No, but I see allegations of a Cross man's involvement had to be deleted off orchard county  :D  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 23, 2011, 10:37:54 PM
Quote from: crossfire on May 23, 2011, 10:23:01 PM
I see that the Bridge home game against Si Michaels on Sunday was abandoned.

Can't blame the Cullyhanna boys this time. ;) ;D

classic. Pog will be itching lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 23, 2011, 10:38:32 PM
you were quicker than i thought lad  :D :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 23, 2011, 11:34:39 PM
Quote from: crossfire on May 23, 2011, 10:23:01 PM
I see that the Bridge home game against Si Michaels on Sunday was abandoned.

Can't blame the Cullyhanna boys this time. ;) ;D

Don't believe it. Can't be true. Silverbridge are a club of angels.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 24, 2011, 10:37:48 PM
Quote from: pintsofguinness on May 23, 2011, 10:37:39 PM
Quote from: crossfire on May 23, 2011, 10:23:01 PM
I see that the Bridge home game against Si Michaels on Sunday was abandoned.

Can't blame the Cullyhanna boys this time. ;) ;D
No, but I see allegations of a Cross man's involvement had to be deleted off orchard county  :D  ;)

Don't tell me there's another "blow in" playing for yous. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on May 26, 2011, 06:44:10 PM
Pearse Og 0-14 - Whitecross 1-11. result from last night senior league
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 26, 2011, 09:14:15 PM
Division 3

Cross  beat Belleek by 7 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: back off the net on May 28, 2011, 01:48:29 PM
Why do the Bridge start fights they cant finish. Is this not the team that Cullyhanna give a kicking to a few years back?.I would have thought they would have learned
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 28, 2011, 02:25:12 PM
Any word on the draw for the next round of the b championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on May 29, 2011, 04:23:32 PM
Cross beat clans by 7 or 8
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on May 29, 2011, 04:32:20 PM
Granemore beat the Sarsfields.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on May 29, 2011, 05:00:48 PM
harps beat madden by 6 or 7 i think. game overshadowed by an incident resulting in a madden player being knocked out cold for about 5 or 10 mins.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: centrefield on May 29, 2011, 08:32:16 PM
dromintee beat the nab in their place by 2 in the end 1-11 to 1-9
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on May 30, 2011, 06:36:22 PM
ACL Division 1: St Patrick's 1-9 Dromintee 0-10

This Division One tie threw in at the unusual time of 7 45pm on Sunday
evening in what were very blustery conditions in Dromintee. The home
side adapted to the conditions with greatest ease in the early stages
and kicked the first three points, showing a clinical accuracy which
evaded St Pat's in the opening minutes. Kyle McEvoy put St Pat's on
the scoreboard after 12 points with a magnificent point from the
sideline before a great tackle from Shane McKeever robbed Dromintee of
possession in their defence. McKeever pulled on the ball soccer style
and registered a second point for his side. Eight minutes before the
break, a Eugene Casey pass found Rory O'Neill who showed great
determination to seize possession. O'Neill sent an enterprising ball
across the pitch which was well anticipated by Eugene Casey whose
intelligent run put him into the perfect position to fist the opening
goal of the match and open a two point advantage for his side. The
half ended with a Eugene Casey point which was sandwiched between two
Dromintee minor scores. At half-time, the away side lead by the
minimum on a scoreline of St Patrick's 1-3 Dromintee 0-5.

The one point advantage was soon reversed thanks to two early
Dromintee points. Six minutes into the half, a glorious Dromintee goal
opportunity was missed before a Shane McKeever free restored parity.
Two further points put Dromintee in the driving seat but two
excellently struck pointed frees from Kyle McEvoy and Eugene Casey
respectively brought the sides level again. Another magnificent Kyle
McEvoy free put his side in the lead and a driven Eugene Casey point
extended the advantage. With a minute of normal time remaining, Kieran
Hoey gained possession, cut inside and kicked a superb point for St
Pat's. Needing a late goal to salvage a draw, Dromintee predictably
laid siege to the Cullyhanna goal and fashioned a 14m free. When that
kick struck the crossbar and went over the bar, victory was secured
for St Patrick's who were just about deserving victors on a scoreline
of St Patrick's 1-9 Dromintee 0-10. Best on the night for St Pat's was
Gary McCooey whose assured performance at centre half back laid the
foundation for a pleasing victory.

Starting XV: D McArdle; S O'Neill, S Reel, P McKeever; Eoin McArdle, G
McCooey, P McCreesh; Eamonn McArdle, P Casey; R O'Neill, E Casey
(1-3), A Mackin; K McEvoy (0-3), T Donnelly, S McKeever (0-2). Subs
Used: K Hoey (0-1), G McCooey, B McConville.

ACL Division 4: St Patrick's 2-10 Killean 1-8

The Division 4 programme continued on Friday night with the Seconds
side keen to build on some excellent results recently as they
travelled to Killean. The early stages of the game did not augur well
however as Killean seized the advantage with the first two points of
the match. St Pat's responded through Cathal O'Neill before another
Killean point put them two ahead again. Poor shooting meant that it
was seven minutes from half-time before Cullyhanna registered their
second point when Miceal Connolly reacted sharpest to a Sean Nugent
delivery to fist a point. Cullyhanna finally found their shooting
boots late in the half as a magnificent Patsy McKeever point and a
Brendan Nugent converted free gave the visitors a barely deserved
half-time lead on a scoreline of St Patrick's 0-4 Killean 0-3.

An improved display was demanded at half-time and the side delivered a
much more vibrant performance. The half began well for St Pat's with a
Patsy McKeever goal before a Paudie Mackin free put his side 5 in the
lead. That advantage was soon whittled away as Killean capitalised on
the Cullyhanna failure to clear a loose ball to send the ball to the
net. The sides then exchanged pointed frees before the move of the
match was created halfway through the second half. Cathal O'Neill
found Kevin Toner with an excellent pass. Toner transferred the ball
at pace to Brendan Nugent who kicked an excellent point. The lead was
four points on 16 minutes after a good Paddy McDonnell pass to Kyle
McEvoy allowed the latter to kick a fine score. Killean replied with a
point but a great score from Patsy McKeever kept a comfortable
distance between the sides. Killean kicked another point soon after
but the decisive score of the match came nine minutes from time when a
Paddy McDonnell kick was well fielded by Miceal Connolly who sliced
through the Killean defence and finished expertly to the net. A
Brendan Nugent pointed free gave Cullyhanna an unassailable seven
point lead and two late Killean points were to no avail as the away
side finished deserving winners on a scoreline of St Patrick's II 2-10
Killean 1-8.

This was another good performance from a team who have shown some good
early season form. While tougher tests may well lie ahead, if they
continue to perform at this level, a push for promotion is not out of
question. Best on the night were the returning Sean Nugent and full
forward Miceal Connolly while substitute goalkeeper Tony Durnin
deputised with distinction.

Starting XV: F Murphy; C Thompson, P Loughran, M Rowland; P McDonnell,
P Donnelly, S Nugent; B Quinn, K Toner; C O'Neill (0-2), P Mackin
(0-1), B Nugent (0-3); C McGlade, M Connolly (1-1), P McKeever (1-2).
Subs Used: B Murray, K McEvoy (0-1), T Durnin
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on May 30, 2011, 06:39:26 PM
Quote from: pearseog on May 29, 2011, 05:00:48 PM
harps beat madden by 6 or 7 i think. game overshadowed by an incident resulting in a madden player being knocked out cold for about 5 or 10 mins.

Informative as ever  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on May 31, 2011, 06:09:06 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on May 30, 2011, 06:39:26 PM
Quote from: pearseog on May 29, 2011, 05:00:48 PM
harps beat madden by 6 or 7 i think. game overshadowed by an incident resulting in a madden player being knocked out cold for about 5 or 10 mins.

Informative as ever  ::)

i was at the game but didn't see the incident (dont think anyone did see it). but it was obviously the biggest talking point of the game so im going to mention it. wasnt having a go at anyone and didnt name names. would you rather i just ignored it and brushed it under the carpet??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 01, 2011, 10:04:20 PM
carrickcruppen 1-9 - 2-16 granemore . padden played [ 3 pts ]  . toner out injured .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 01, 2011, 10:05:27 PM
Dromintee beats clans by 3 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on June 01, 2011, 10:52:43 PM
Pearse Og 1-16 - 2-7 Sarsfields
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 01, 2011, 11:21:23 PM
ACL Division 1: St Patrick's 3-10 Whitecross 0-11

The Division 1 campaign continued on Wednesday night with a home fixture against our future Championship opponents Whitecross. On a bright evening, it was the away side who almost fashioned the perfect start when their attacker was felled in the 2nd minute resulting in a penalty kick. However this golden opportunity was not fully converted as the ball was blazed over the bar for a mere point. It took seven minutes for St Pat's to trouble the scoreboard however when the point came, it proved worth the wait as Tony Donnelly, Eoin McArdle and Kieran Hoey combined for the latter to kick an excellent point. The sides exchanged points in the 11th and 12th minutes with Cullyhanna's score coming from a Eugene Casey free before Whitecross edged ahead again in the 14th minute with a magnificent point from the sideline. Cullyhanna then began to assert some dominance throughout the pitch however some poor wides threatened to derail their challenge. The scoring habit returned on 18 minutes when Pearse Casey won the ball well at midfield, Kieran Hoey collected the breaking ball and fed the on rushing Eugene Casey who kicked a fine point. A minute later Kieran Hoey delivered the first decisive blow of the match, bursting through the Whitecross defence before hammering the ball to the roof of the net to put his side 1-3 to 0-3 ahead.

A great score from Eoin McArdle under the severest pressure extended the advantage before Whitecross pulled back a point thanks to an erroneously awarded "45." The match continued to ebb and flow with a magnificent score from the outside of Eugene Casey's boot preceding a pointed Whitecross free. Cullyhanna had begun to get on top in the match and struck two crucial blows on the stroke of half-time as firstly Tony Donelly and Kyle McEvoy combined for a well-taken point. With two minutes of injury time played, Stephen Reel punted a long ball out of defence which was latched onto by Kieran Hoey. He carried the ball forward and showed great vision to pick out Tony Donnelly in space. Donnelly made no mistake in finding the net to open up a commanding half-time advantage for his team. At the break, St Patrick's led by seven points on a scoreline of 2-6 to 0-5. While the match itself had been fairly even in terms of territory and possession, Cullyhanna looked the far more dangerous attacking side throughout and their clinical finishing had ensured a decent half-time lead.

The seven point deficit was not to last long however as Whitecross started the second half much the brighter. The visitors pointed a free almost immediately after the resumption as Cullyhanna entered something of a third quarter lull which saw Whitecross reduce the lead to 4 with 3 unanswered points, threatening to break the Cullyhanna stranglehold on the game. Indeed it was to be 14 minutes into the second half before Eugene got the first St Pat's point of the half through a free. A sweeping Whitecross move brought them another score before great strength from Eugene Casey allowed him to brush past his man and kick another excellent point. With 10 minutes remaining, the match was finished as a contest when another good run from Eugene Casey led to him being felled to the ground. Casey reacted quickly however and dispatched a pass to Kyle McEvoy from a prone position. Kyle showed good composure to place the ball past the goalkeeper to give St Pat's a seemingly unassailable 8 point lead. However Whitecross were thrown a lifeline a minute later when a goalbound Whitecross shot rebounded off Peter McKeever's thigh. The referee deemed this sufficient to award a second penalty and so Whitecross had another opportunity to goal from 12 metres. Again their efforts were to no avail as the ball rebounded off the crossbar to the relief of the Cullyhanna following. Three pointed frees followed, one for Whitecross and two for Cullyhanna through Kyle McEvoy and Eugene Casey, as the game petered out to its then inevitable conclusion. With a minute of normal time remaining Robbie Tasker initiated a move which resulted in a Eugene Casey point. Whitecross were to have the final say with a point right at the end of a bizarrely lengthy injury time but the game was over as a contest by that stage as Cullyhanna finished comfortable winners on a scoreline of St Patrick's 3-10 Whitecross 0-11.

This was a very pleasing performance marked by an eye for goals which had previously been missing this season. However with the same opposition to come in the first round of the championship, there is little doubt that that match will be a much tighter fixture. Gary McCooey and Eoin McArdle showed good form in the half-back line while Kieran Hoey and Eugene Casey were a constant threat up front.

Starting XV: D McArdle; P McKeever, S Reel, B Savage; E McArdle (0-1), G McCooey, Ciaran Nugent; P McCreesh, P Casey; K Hoey (1-1), E Casey (0-6), A Mackin; K McEvoy (1-1), S McKeever, T Donnelly (1-1). Subs Used: R Tasker, S Lennon, R O'Neill, S O'Neill, B McConville
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 02, 2011, 02:21:44 AM
Cross beat Culloville 0-18 to 1-12
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Moortown Spuds on June 02, 2011, 10:39:51 AM
No mention of Mullaghbawn game last might?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 02, 2011, 01:53:48 PM
Wednesday 1st June Simplyfruit.com ACL @ 7.30pm

Division 1

Dromintee 3-16 v Clan na Gael 4-09

Maghery 3-11 v Ballymacnab 2-13

Sarsfields 2-07 v Pearse Og 1-16

St.Patricks 3-10v Whitecross 0-11

Carrickcruppin 1-09 v Granemore 2-16

Crossmaglen 0-18 v Cullaville 1-12

Division 2

Shane O'Neills 0-11 v Clann Eireann 0-17

Armagh Harps 2-14 v St.Michaels 1-08

Tir na nOg 2-09 v Wolfe Tone 2-11

Tullysarran 0-10 v Silverbridge 0-10 

Killeavy 1-07 v Madden 0-10

Mullabawn v Keady—Not finished due to injury

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on June 02, 2011, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on June 02, 2011, 01:53:48 PM
Wednesday 1st June Simplyfruit.com ACL @ 7.30pm

Division 1

Dromintee 3-16 v Clan na Gael 4-09

Maghery 3-11 v Ballymacnab 2-13

Sarsfields 2-07 v Pearse Og 1-16

St.Patricks 3-10v Whitecross 0-11

Carrickcruppin 1-09 v Granemore 2-16

Crossmaglen 0-18 v Cullaville 1-12

Division 2

Shane O'Neills 0-11 v Clann Eireann 0-17

Armagh Harps 2-14 v St.Michaels 1-08

Tir na nOg 2-09 v Wolfe Tone 2-11

Tullysarran 0-10 v Silverbridge 0-10 

Killeavy 1-07 v Madden 0-10

Mullabawn v Keady—Not finished due to injury resulting from an assault by Mullaghabawn's No 2]
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 02, 2011, 11:10:03 PM
I have been reading some of the posts on another board about the incident in the Keady/Mullabawn game. Something has got to give. The main talking points in games at the minute are non-football related and it is blackening the name of football in our county. I know it is a hard thing to police for the county board and the culprits more often than not get away with it because a league games there is only the referee there to report back and he doesn't have eyes on the back of his head.

No club is totally blameless and the only way that this can stop is if clubs name the offender themselves. I know this is highly unlikely but that's all right until one of their own players gets hurt. Anyone else here have any ideas about what they think should be done?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on June 02, 2011, 11:37:14 PM
Clubs wont name players if they can get away with it. Sure if that was the case your secretary would be sick to death writing: It was J.P DONNELLY....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 02, 2011, 11:51:38 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on June 02, 2011, 11:37:14 PM
Clubs wont name players if they can get away with it. Sure if that was the case your secretary would be sick to death writing: It was J.P DONNELLY....

I didn't want this to start into sniping... there is enough of it on the other board. I did state as well that no club is blameless and I also asked for people's opinions on it. It would be good to see what ideas to see what people have!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on June 03, 2011, 04:36:27 PM
In situations like this the County Board should make the club concerned name the player; failure to do so - tossed out of thr League or forfeit a significant number of points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on June 03, 2011, 05:53:47 PM
Quote from: Sandy Hill on June 03, 2011, 04:36:27 PM
In situations like this the County Board should make the club concerned name the player; failure to do so - tossed out of thr League or forfeit a significant number of points.

Doubt identifying the culprit is the main issue in these cases. I'd say getting an accurate, unbiased account of what happened is a bigger problem. Even if the culprit comes forward himself, there's nothing to stop him making up a load of bollix to mitigate his actions - 'he was slapping the head off me first, blah blah, blah'.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 04, 2011, 11:29:22 AM
It's a difficult situation because if a club were to name the culprit then it may have severe implications for the club ie major fallouts , in house fighting and members leaving the club. I'm not up to speed with the details of the incident but I know n e one can make a mistake. However this thing needs stamped out of our game. Having witnessed lads getting sent off and suspended over the years for little or nothing it angers me when lads can do this and get away with it. Constant offenders should be completely banned from the game as they are clearly thugs and have no place. On the issue what was the outcome concerning the culloville/ maghreb incident last year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on June 05, 2011, 12:44:53 PM
The incident you refer to in C/ville v Maghery game was dealt with by the CCC with a suspension as per rule. No arguments suspension accepted by all. Outcome satisfactory to all concerned. 8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: torres on June 05, 2011, 03:26:36 PM
crossmaglen bt granemore by 1 pt . felt we deserved a draw out of this encounter but we still put in a great performance v the all conquering cross .
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on June 05, 2011, 03:46:34 PM
pearse og beat carrickcruppen with scoreline of 1-12 to 0-8
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 05, 2011, 05:31:18 PM
Maghery beat clans by 7 I think stinking match with 4 sent off 2 for both teams. Never seen the ref before but he wasn't on this planet and actually made the game scrappy with the stop start crap
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 07, 2011, 10:43:03 AM
Quote from: winsamsoon on June 05, 2011, 05:31:18 PM
Maghery beat clans by 7 I think stinking match with 4 sent off 2 for both teams. Never seen the ref before but he wasn't on this planet and actually made the game scrappy with the stop start crap
I heard the ref was our old favourite Mr Beds, just think of what u have been missing in the old mid-board under age games. He was like the old school master to the u10 s up to b players. NUTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 07, 2011, 01:43:02 PM
Anyone got up to date league tables for all divisions?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on June 07, 2011, 02:47:09 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on June 07, 2011, 01:43:02 PM
Anyone got up to date league tables for all divisions?

http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/armagh-acl-tables-sunday-5-june-2011-a-1307/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 07, 2011, 02:58:04 PM
Cheers lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 08, 2011, 10:38:44 AM
big lower division derby match tonight in armagh. some bragging rights in joes next weekend depending on the result. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 08, 2011, 02:13:23 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 08, 2011, 10:38:44 AM
big lower division derby match tonight in armagh. some bragging rights in joes next weekend depending on the result. ;)

The 'Saran are the bet of the week ;-)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 08, 2011, 10:24:21 PM
Clans reserves beat Og's tonight...any other results?

Is it me or has the board went to the dogs recently? Where has all the posters went?, we're almost half way through the season and there's hardly been a post about a game :-\
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 08, 2011, 10:27:25 PM
Yes it's went to the dogs alright a few deflecting to orchard county but there used to be better craic when pog was talking the mulah lol and the lads were handing out grief. The football talk wasn't bad either
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on June 08, 2011, 11:37:10 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 08, 2011, 10:24:21 PM
Clans reserves beat Og's tonight...any other results?

Is it me or has the board went to the dogs recently? Where has all the posters went?, we're almost half way through the season and there's hardly been a post about a game :-\

There definately isn't a buzz about the club football this year on the board. Maybe it'll liven up come championship time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: gaapunter on June 09, 2011, 09:48:54 AM
Quote from: illdecide on June 08, 2011, 10:24:21 PM
Clans reserves beat Og's tonight...any other results?

Is it me or has the board went to the dogs recently? Where has all the posters went?, we're almost half way through the season and there's hardly been a post about a game :-\

I hear the clans keeper rolled back the years any truth in this
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 09, 2011, 11:50:04 AM
Yes the 40 year old (stand in keeper ;)) rolled back the years alright last night for the Reserves, he done well but FFS don't tell him that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 09, 2011, 11:52:10 AM
Priceless
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 09, 2011, 03:54:11 PM
was that the slim boy with the baggy shorts, lucky the ogs had a true b team out otherwise it would have been interesting to see the big man diving against some decent forwards. ps he can still give out ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 11, 2011, 11:34:11 PM
ACL Division 1: St Patrick's 1-6 Maghery 1-8

St Pat's squandered an opportunity to leap to the head of the Division 1 table on Wednesday night when the recent good run of results ended at home to Maghery. The match began promisingly for Cullyhanna when Paudie McCreesh's quick reactions allowed him to get a shot away which sailed over the bar for the opening point. With five minutes gone, Kyle McEvoy displayed good strength to gain possession and kick a fine point to put his side 2 clear. In a half which proved to be somewhat devoid of quality, Maghery halved the deficit 12 minutes in through a pointed free. Midway through the half, a magnificent Ciaran Nugent tackle robbed a Maghery attacker bearing down on goal however the North Armagh men regrouped to kick an equalising point. Maghery achieved a measure of dominance in the second quarter however were unable to capitalise with scores as the game entered a long scoreless lull. In first half injury time the sides finally regained their shooting boots with Maghery punishing a defensive error to kick a point before Kyle McEvoy equalised matters with a late pointed free. After a fairly poor first half, the sides were level at the break with 0-3 apiece.

St Pat's commenced the second half in splendid fashion with a superb fist passing move involving Eugene Casey, Ciaran Nugent and Kieran Hoey which culminated in a fantastic long range point by Pearse Casey. A Maghery free soon levelled matters before the visitors moved ahead on 12 minutes when lax marking allowed them a point. As the game ebbed and flowed, a direct ball in from Barry McConville was cleared only as far as Rory O'Neill who popped over an equalising point. On 23 minutes, a seemingly crucial blow was struck when Pearce Casey won the ball well at midfield before kicking to Tony Donnelly who flicked the ball in the direction of Eugene Casey. Casey exchanged passes with Kieran Hoey before firing a shot goalwards. The Maghery keeper could only parry the ball away and Rory O'Neill bundled it in to the net for a St Pat's goal. Three points clear with 7 minutes to play, Cullyhanna looked dominant however they contrived to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory by conceding a goal almost instantaneously. With Maghery jubilant following their goal, they added two points to seize a decisive late lead. The deficit was reduced to the minimum when brilliantly placed pass from Paudie McCreesh found Tony Donnelly. Donnelly transferred to the onrushing Ciaran Nugent who kicked a fine score. Try as they might, St Pat's could not fashion another score and an excellent point from Maghery late on put the match beyond Cullyhanna's reach. Final score: St Patrick's 1-6 Maghery 1-8.

This was a very average performance from a Cullyhanna teamwho never really produced their best form at any stage. While the result could have gone either way, St Pat's can have few complaints about being on the losing side. Best on the night for the home team was wing-back Ciaran Nugent while Pearce Casey and substitute Rory O'Neill also had good games.

Starting XV: C O'Neill; S O'Neill, S Reel, B Savage; Eoin McArdle, P McCreesh (0-1), C Nugent (0-1); Eamon McArdle, P Casey (0-1); K Hoey, E Casey, A Mackin; K McEvoy (0-2), S McKeever, T Donnelly. Subs Used: B McConville, D McArdle, R O'Neill (1-1), S Lennon
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on June 12, 2011, 12:50:22 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 09, 2011, 03:54:11 PM
was that the slim boy with the baggy shorts, lucky the ogs had a true b team out otherwise it would have been interesting to see the big man diving against some decent forwards. ps he can still give out ;)

You should get yourself registered on armaghgaa.net wanderer. You would have a field day on the wind up with some of the characters there. Shane O'Neills, Carrickcruppin, and the Grange are all good targets as they seem to have plenty of members registered and always commenting on something!! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on June 12, 2011, 10:42:04 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 09, 2011, 03:54:11 PM
was that the slim boy with the baggy shorts, lucky the ogs had a true b team out otherwise it would have been interesting to see the big man diving against some decent forwards. ps he can still give out ;)

Thank f**k he didn't see much action is right! Although he would tell ya he made two great saves.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 12, 2011, 05:27:17 PM
ACL Division 1: St Patrick's 2-8 Clan na Gael 0-6

Sunday's fixture against Clan na Gael provided the Senior side with an early opportunity to bounce back from Wednesday's disappointment and St Patrick's did so in style as they mastered the wet conditions to register a comfortable victory. Returning Niall McShane signalled his intentions in the opening minute with a magnificent diving block but it was Clan na Gael who opened the scoring with an early pointed free. However that lead was not to last long as two minutes into the match, Niall McShane initiated a pacey Cullyhanna attacking move which involved Tony Donnelly who held up possession well before passing the ball out to Kieran Hoey. Hoey released Paudie McCreesh who was marauding forward from defence. McCreesh cut in along the end line before expertly finding Tony Donnelly who fired to the net to hand his side an early advantage. A good Clan na Gael point on 5 minutes reduced the deficit to a point before St Pat's registered their first minor score of the game when a great crossfield ball by Barry McConville allowed Kieran Hoey to kick a point. A pointed free by Eugene Casey added to the lead, then on 11 minutes a Kyle McEvoy pass found the onrushing Barry McConville who kicked a fine score.

St Pat's were almost totally dominant at this stage, defending with great tenacity and gaining the upper hand at midfield. 8 minutes before the break, a Pearse Casey flick at midfield initiated a good attacking move which culminated in a close range free which was converted by Eugene Casey. A dropped ball in defence allowed Clan na Gael to register their first score for almost 20 minutes but St Pat's responded in style with a Kieran Hoey chipped point. The half concluded with an excellent Clan na Gael point to leave the visitors trailing at half-time on a scoreline of 0-4 to 1-6.

Cullyhanna were full value for their half-time lead in a half which was marred by the difficult conditions. St Pat's adapted the better and indeed should probably have been further ahead at the break had it not been for the final pass often going astray at the crucial moment.

The second half began in great style for St Pat's when midfielder Barry McConville kicked a magnificent point from the left hand sideline to put his side 6 points to the good. The conditions began to get the better of the sides in the third quarter with Clan na Gael pressing to reduce the deficit but being repelled by a mixture of good defending and poor handling. Midway through the half, Clan na Gael threatened a resurgence with a brace of pointed frees but with 14 minutes remaining, the challenge of the Lurgan men was ended when a well placed quick free from Shane McKeever found Kieran Hoey in space. Hoey was unceremoniously hauled to the ground leaving the referee with no option but to award St Pat's a penalty. Shane McKeever fired to the top corner of the net from 12 metres to hand his side a decisive 7 point advantage. The game petered out in the final quarter with the only score coming from a sweeping St Pat's move which was begun in defence by Tony Donnelly, involved Barry McConville on a couple of occasions, before Donnelly finished what he had started by kicking what was to be the final point of the match. The match finished with Cullyhanna running out comfortable winners on a scoreline of St Patrick's 2-8 Clan na Gael 0-6.

Despite the victory, this was not by any means a performance of true quality however the adverse weather conditions were always likely to have an impact on the standard of football. While the Clan na Gael challenge was not the strongest, St Pat's can only beat what is put in front of them and they did so with relative ease. The half-back line of Eoin McArdle, Paudie McCreesh and the returning Niall McShane were the launchpad for the success while Barry McConville had an excellent game around the middle of the field.

Starting XV: C O'Neill; S Lennon, S Reel, B Savage; Eoin McArdle, P McCreesh, N McShane; B McConville (0-2), P Casey; K Hoey (0-2), E Casey (0-2), A Mackin; S McKeever (1-0), T Donnelly (1-1), K McEvoy (0-1). Subs Used: C Nugent, G McCooey, Eamon McArdle
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on June 12, 2011, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: ogshead on June 12, 2011, 12:50:22 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 09, 2011, 03:54:11 PM
was that the slim boy with the baggy shorts, lucky the ogs had a true b team out otherwise it would have been interesting to see the big man diving against some decent forwards. ps he can still give out ;)

You should get yourself registered on armaghgaa.net wanderer. You would have a field day on the wind up with some of the characters there. Shane O'Neills, Carrickcruppin, and the Grange are all good targets as they seem to have plenty of members registered and always commenting on something!! ;D
I've been pretty much assuming for a longtime that he is Sliothar, convinced of it in fact :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Minder on June 12, 2011, 06:00:41 PM
Well done Armagh hurlers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on June 12, 2011, 06:30:43 PM
Quote from: Minder on June 12, 2011, 06:00:41 PM
Well done Armagh hurlers.

Fantastic result, the progression of Armagh hurling has been great to see. They will be serious underdogs against Antrim but they were also today.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on June 12, 2011, 07:11:17 PM
Great result for the senior hurlers - a massive effort from all the players in particular Ruairi Mc Gratton, Ryan Gaffney, 2 x Corvans and Ciaran Clifford
Unlucky to the minors, although theres no shame in the ways yous played
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: CountyGK on June 12, 2011, 08:17:27 PM
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on June 12, 2011, 07:11:17 PM
Great result for the senior hurlers - a massive effort from all the players in particular Ruairi Mc Gratton, Ryan Gaffney, 2 x Corvans and Ciaran Clifford
Unlucky to the minors, although theres no shame in the ways yous played

fantastic win, Ard Mhacha abú!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on June 13, 2011, 01:48:40 PM
Good result but doesn't hide the fact that outside of Keady and Middletown hurling is failing to develop at club level substantially, although Cuhullains are making a mighty effort.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on June 13, 2011, 02:42:48 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 13, 2011, 01:48:40 PM
Good result but doesn't hide the fact that outside of Keady and Middletown hurling is failing to develop at club level substantially, although Cuhullains are making a mighty effort.

A very sweeping comment there apples, Derrynoose are really putting a lot of effort in and have been rewarded with a class U-14 team this year. Killeavey got to an U-15 county final this year and Camlough are doing some great work. Middletown from what I can see are struggling a lot to the resurgence of football in the area and seem  to struggle to get the feet on the ground with a lot of senior players also coaching the underage. As for cuchulainns we have a great set up for the u-6 to u-14, but from then on we struggle to compete with the very unique situation of 2 football teams in the town. Also I feel a lot of these county development squads at underage although supply great coaching for our young players, they can take them away for a lot of club sessions which does not help our cause.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 13, 2011, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 13, 2011, 01:48:40 PM
Good result but doesn't hide the fact that outside of Keady and Middletown hurling is failing to develop at club level substantially, although Cuhullains are making a mighty effort.

i'm not big into the Hurling but i thought Sean Tracy's were making strides in armagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on June 13, 2011, 03:31:00 PM
You could be right about development squads. Do they foster their own ethos to the detriment of clubs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on June 13, 2011, 03:42:02 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 13, 2011, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 13, 2011, 01:48:40 PM
Good result but doesn't hide the fact that outside of Keady and Middletown hurling is failing to develop at club level substantially, although Cuhullains are making a mighty effort.

i'm not big into the Hurling but i thought Sean Tracy's were making strides in armagh?

Here, you would know more about a Keady Loaf!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 13, 2011, 04:34:10 PM
Quote from: Armagh Cúchulainns on June 13, 2011, 03:42:02 PM
Quote from: illdecide on June 13, 2011, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on June 13, 2011, 01:48:40 PM
Good result but doesn't hide the fact that outside of Keady and Middletown hurling is failing to develop at club level substantially, although Cuhullains are making a mighty effort.

i'm not big into the Hurling but i thought Sean Tracy's were making strides in armagh?

Here, you would know more about a Keady Loaf!

:D :D :D At this present moment i can't argue with that...take it outta that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 21, 2011, 04:53:27 PM
Winsam or any other Clans Gaels, what sort of B Team have you's out this year? Championship next week @ Clonmore?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on June 21, 2011, 05:13:37 PM
Quote from: Candyman on June 21, 2011, 04:53:27 PM
Winsam or any other Clans Gaels, what sort of B Team have you's out this year? Championship next week @ Clonmore?

Candyman like any other B team good in places and weak in a few places, their good points is their starting 15 and their weakness is their bench ;)...You know the score yourself they're decent with a few ex seniors playing. Harps have been good at B level for a right few years now and must be 1/3 favourites ;) (and thats to win the lot)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 22, 2011, 10:39:00 AM
Not a lot of change from the team that won it last year candyman but surely you can't expect me to divulge the secrets to our success  :D

So that game is fixed for next wed at Clonmore?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 22, 2011, 11:08:51 AM
Yup, and from what I hear a real gent of a referee!!! ;-)
We are struggling at the min with Injuries, should make for an interesting day...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 22, 2011, 11:17:38 AM
Tell me the good news . Who is the ref?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 22, 2011, 12:27:57 PM
The Master Hearty, no?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 22, 2011, 12:33:47 PM
I honestly haven't heard lad but that should be interesting lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 22, 2011, 01:20:17 PM
2 finals in 2years... Clans are on the up!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on June 22, 2011, 01:21:45 PM
;) very good
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on June 22, 2011, 01:56:16 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on June 12, 2011, 05:32:31 PM
Quote from: ogshead on June 12, 2011, 12:50:22 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on June 09, 2011, 03:54:11 PM
was that the slim boy with the baggy shorts, lucky the ogs had a true b team out otherwise it would have been interesting to see the big man diving against some decent forwards. ps he can still give out ;)

You should get yourself registered on armaghgaa.net wanderer. You would have a field day on the wind up with some of the characters there. Shane O'Neills, Carrickcruppin, and the Grange are all good targets as they seem to have plenty of members registered and always commenting on something!! ;D
I've been pretty much assuming for a longtime that he is Sliothar, convinced of it in fact :)
now now benny i am sure u know im better than sliothar, no crack here anymore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on June 22, 2011, 07:01:51 PM
Who's in the other semi final of the b's? Harps v clans should be a close match. Clonmore is a strange pitch for it. Last time I was there it wasn't in good nick. Has it been improved?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 22, 2011, 09:23:12 PM
ACL Division 1

Sarsfields beat Cross, in Cross, 2-10 to 0-14.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 22, 2011, 10:12:30 PM
St Patrick's 0-12 Culloville 1-8. We were deserved victors I felt, the Culloville goal came from a penalty with the last kick of the match though had they taken some of their second half chances, the result could have been very different.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 22, 2011, 11:05:38 PM
Tones Beat Harps by a point, goal with about 2mins left on the clock to win bu the minimum!! Joe Quigley scored 3-4 I think it was, imagine if the man was fit!! ;-)
Oh and some dodgey decisions from the Tones umpire? ;-)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on June 23, 2011, 06:43:31 AM
Quote from: Candyman on June 22, 2011, 11:05:38 PM
Tones Beat Harps by a point, goal with about 2mins left on the clock to win bu the minimum!! Joe Quigley scored 3-4 I think it was, imagine if the man was fit!! ;-)
Oh and some dodgey decisions from the Tones umpire...

decision(s) as in more than one??  Spoke to the ref after the game who has the final say and he agreed the shot was wide.  A neutral from another club also told me the shot was wide after the game.  Maybe you should check out the board rules before posting "candyman".  The harps umpire made a dodgy decision also, giving a blatant wide for a "45" and he didnt appear to argue too much over the alleged point. 

harps should have had us out of sight.  6 points up 10 mins into the second half, we were in a similiar position to that last year in abbey park and lost.  Quigley was good alright putting chris mccarron onto him in last 20 mins made a real difference.  was a cracking game most exciting i have been to in a while.  Some great point taking from both sides.  Fair play to everyone involved. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on June 23, 2011, 08:53:13 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on June 22, 2011, 07:01:51 PM
Who's in the other semi final of the b's? Harps v clans should be a close match. Clonmore is a strange pitch for it. Last time I was there it wasn't in good nick. Has it been improved?

Madden play Maghery in Ballyhegan. Was at Clonmore last week. their pitch is looking very well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 23, 2011, 09:03:51 AM
Nab Beat Clans last night by 8-9 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on June 26, 2011, 08:01:49 PM
St Patrick's 0-12 Culloville 1-8

St Pat's ascended to the head of the Division one table with a narrow victory over Culloville on Wednesday night. Returning intercounty star Mal Mackin got his side off to the perfect start with a magnificent first minute point from the left sideline. An excellently struck 45 from Tony Donnelly doubled the advantage before Culloville registered their first point. After 9 minutes, a good solo run from Mal Mackin resulted in his second point of the match. A couple of Culloville points levelled matters before a great run from Kyle McEvoy to win possession resulted in a St Pat's free near the sideline. A magnificent kick from Kieran Hoey put his side back into the lead. Mal Mackin completed his hat-trick of points on 18 minutes and two minutes later Kyle McEvoy converted a free awarded after a foul on the returning Liam O'Hare. Two Culloville frees reduced the deficit to the minimum while Kyle McEvoy pointed a free on the stroke of half-time to leave Cullyhanna two points to the good at the break on a scoreline of St Patrick's 0-7 Culloville 0-5.Cullyhanna just about deserved their half-time lead in a match which was fairly even however St Pat's were the more incisive attacking side.

The second period started positively for St Pat's when a good ball from Barry McConville was broken by Kyle McEvoy. The loose ball was latched onto by Liam O'Hare who was fouled and Kieran Hoey made no mistake converting the free. After 6 minutes, the lead extended to 4 when Liam O'Hare cut in along the touchline and kicked a magnificent point from a tight angle. The sides exchanged scores with the St Pat's point coming from a long range Kyle McEvoy free. Culloville pointed another free before the match entered a lengthy scoreless spell during which both sides missed a number of chances, with Culloville being particularly wasteful. St Pat's had a couple of late goal chances but could convert neither and when Culloville counter-attack from one Cullyhanna opportunity to score a point of their own, the match was very much in the balance. St Pat's held a dangerous two point lead heading into the closing stages but showed the necessary composure to see out the match. Great vision from Ciaran McKeever allowed Kyle McEvoy to extend the lead to three. With two minutes of injury time played, a great passing move involving Mal Mackin and Genie McCooey resulted in another Kyle McEvoy point which secured victory and meant that the late Culloville penalty goal did not affect the result as St Pat's ran out victors on a scoreline of 0-12 to 1-8.

This was a reasonable performance however the football on display never really reached any heights, although St Pat's were worthy winners. Best on the night were Gary McCooey, Mal Mackin and Kyle McEvoy.

Starting XV: C O'Neill; P McKeever, S Reel, Eoin McArdle; M Murray, G McCooey, P McCreesh; B McConville, T Donnelly (0-1); K Hoey (0-1), S McKeever, M Mackin (0-3); R O'Neill, L O'Hare (0-1), K McEvoy (0-5). Subs Used: C McKeever, G McCooey, C O'Neill

St Patrick's II 2-11 Lissummon 3-6

The Seconds team built upon their derby victory with an excellent win away from home against early season fancies for promotion, Lissummon. The victory was all the more credible given the adverse start to the match when Lissummon capitalised on a defensive lapse to score a goal within 2 minutes of play. St Pat's responded in style however, kicking 4 unanswered points as they dominated the first quarter, the pick of the scores coming from long range efforts by Paudie Mackin and Paul Donnelly. Lissummon responded with a point midway through the first half but Patsy McKeever restored the advantage with his second excellent point of the match as St Pat's seized control the match playing an attractive brand of direct football. Miceal Connolly then grabbed a brace of points, the second of which was probably the score of the day as Paddy McDonnell fetched the ball superbly at midfield, battled past two opponents before sending the ball into Connolly whose superb leap allowed him to kick a fine score. In a bizarre two minute spell towards the end of the half, both sides were awarded penalties. Neither team made any mistake in netting with Cullyhanna's goal coming from Paudie Mackin. Two Lissummon points and a long range St Pat's free finished the first half scoring as Cullyhanna led at the break by 1-8 to 2-3 after an entertaining first half during which direct play had paid dividends for the away side.

Two early Brendan Nugent points, the second a superb effort, doubled the Cullyhanna to four early in the second half before Lissummon replied with a point of their own. Midway through the second half, two goal opportunities presented themselves and while Miceal Connolly was unlucky to see the first hit the post, Patsy McKeever made no mistake in slotting to the net when played through by Paddy McDonnell. With a six point lead, St Pat's looked fairly safe however a couple of late Lissummon points threatened a revival. Late on a Paudie Mackin block initiated an attack which saw Miceal Connolly send a point over to secure victory. Another late penalty goal for Lissummon was of little consequence as St Pat's ran out thoroughly deserved winners on a scoreline of St Patrick's 2-11 Lissummon 3-6.

This was an excellent performance from a side which have shown meteoric improvement this season. The direct football played was effective and enjoyable to watch and the team deserve great credit for their run of results which has put them firmly in the frame for promotion. Liam McGlade played extremely well with some excellent tackling and Mark Mone had an excellent match at corner back with his surging runs providing the springboard for numerous attacks while Paudie Mackin dominated affairs from midfield. Up front Brendan Nugent, Miceal Connolly and Patsy McKeever all had excellent games.

Starting XV: F Murphy; L McGlade, C McShane, Mark Mone; P Donnelly (0-1), P Loughran, C Thompson; K Toner, P Mackin (1-2); B Nugent (0-3), F Nugent, P McDonnell; B Murray, M Connolly (0-3), P McKeever (1-2) Subs Used: J Quinn, B Quinn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on June 26, 2011, 08:19:43 PM
ACL Division 1

Cross beat Carrickcruppen 2-15 to 1-10.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 26, 2011, 11:18:03 PM
Nab beat culloville today by 4 points
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on June 26, 2011, 11:24:58 PM
Just past halfway stage of the season what are people's thoughts?

In Division 1 things seem to be going according to script, Cross topping the table with the usual suspects at the bottom. Perhaps one or two signs of weakness showing from the feens, most notably the defeat to Sarsfields last week; nothing to read into obviously...
Two teams that I have been impressed by so far are Whitecross and Maghery, and I feel are two to be watched come championship time. Granemore and the Nab have adapted well to life at the top and IMO will remain for a good few years to come. At the bottom none of the teams can buy a win (Clans anyway), Cruppen are still within touching distance of ourselves/Sarsfields/Culloville who are even further behind the rest of the pack. At this stage it is anyone's guess as to who survives, though I can see everyone from Ballymacnab upwards being safe from relegation.

In the second it would appear that Tones and C.Eireann will go up, I have seen a few games in this Division and even at this stage I think it is those two teams' to lose. Despite me half expecting C.Eireann to capitulate they have kept it together and look to be the team to beat. This division promised to be competitive but I have been surprised at the low standard; Killeavy, M'bawn, Harps and even Silverbridge were all touted as promotion contenders at the start of the year but all seem to have struggled so far for consistency. Shane O'Neill's have also been making a name for themselves though I think it will be a while yet before they make Division 1 football.

I don't see any football in Division 3/4 but it would seem that St Peter's and Eire Og are running away with both divisions with second place up for grabs for a number of teams...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on June 27, 2011, 01:53:12 PM
Armagh ACL Tables as at Sunday 26 June 2011

ACL – Division I
Team P W D L Pts
Crossmaglen 11 9 1 1 19
Maghery 12 8 2 2 18
St Patrick's 12 9 0 3 18
Pearse Og 12 8 1 3 17
Granemore 11 7 1 3 15
Whitecross 11 6 1 4 13
Dromintee 11 5 1 5 11
Ballymacnab 12 5 0 7 10
Culloville 12 3 0 9 6
Clan na Gael 11 2 1 8 5
Sarsfields 12 2 1 9 5
Carrickcruppen 11 0 1 10 1

ACL – Division II
Team P W D L Pts
Wolfe Tone 12 9 2 1 20
Clann Eireann 11 9 1 1 19
Shane O'Neill's 13 6 2 5 15
Killeavy 11 5 2 4 12
Silverbridge 11 5 2 4 12
Armagh Harps 12 5 2 5 12
Madden 11 4 3 4 11
Mullaghbawn 12 5 1 6 11
Keady 9 4 0 5 8
Tir na nÓg 11 4 0 7 8
Tullysaran 13 2 2 9 6
St Michael's 12 2 1 9 5

ACL – Division III
Team P W D L Pts
St Peter's 13 11 1 1 23
Grange 13 8 2 3 18
Annaghmore 12 7 1 4 15
Middletown 11 6 2 3 14
St Paul's 11 6 2 3 14
Collegeland 13 6 1 6 13
Ballyhegan 14 5 3 6 13
Crossmaglen II 12 5 1 7 11
Clonmore 13 5 1 7 11
An Port Mor 13 5 0 8 10
Forkhill 12 3 0 9 6
Belleek 13 1 0 12 2

ACL – Division IV
Team P W D L Pts
Eire Og 12 11 0 1 22
Derrynoose 12 9 0 3 18
Lissummon 12 9 0 3 18
St Patrick's II 10 6 1 3 13
Dorsey Emmett's 10 6 0 4 12
Corrinshego 13 6 0 7 12
Clady 11 3 3 5 9
Killeavy II 12 3 2 7 8
Killean 10 2 1 7 5
O'Hanlon's 11 2 1 8 5
Dromintee II 13 1 2 11 4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 29, 2011, 10:57:59 PM
Harps & Madden meet in the B All-County Final  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on June 29, 2011, 11:45:36 PM
Quote from: Candyman on June 29, 2011, 10:57:59 PM
Harps & Madden meet in the B All-County Final  ;D

Fair play to the harps, I thought they were good tonight. Best team def won in the end. Good luck for the final
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on June 30, 2011, 12:07:34 AM
Your keeper will make the Lurgan Mail anyway...  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on June 30, 2011, 07:20:43 AM
Quote from: Candyman on June 30, 2011, 12:07:34 AM
Your keeper will make the Lurgan Mail anyway...  ;)

The fat cluxton :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on July 02, 2011, 07:10:42 PM
St Patrick's 2-9 Granemore 1-11

St Pat's leapfrogged back to the top of the Division 1 table after a thrilling encounter last Tuesday evening. Granemore had recorded an emphatic victory over the Cullyhanna team early in the season and would probably have been the favourites to repeat the feat at home. However Kyle McEvoy put the away side into the lead almost instantaneously with a point from play. Granemore soon equalised before St Pat's were dealt the blow of seeing centre half-back Gary McCooey forced to depart the fray through injury. The sides then exchanged points with the Cullyhanna score coming from a Kyle McEvoy free. After 9 minutes Granemore struck the first crucial blow of the match, cutting through the St Pat's defence to register the opening goal of the game. A minute later, over-elaboration in the Cullyhanna led to another Granemore point and when a pointed Granemore free on 14 minutes put them 1-4 to 0-2 in front, Cullyhanna looked in danger of succumbing to a similarly comprehensive defeat as had been experienced earlier in the Spring.

To give the side credit, they soon rallied and the revival was led by Liam O'Hare who produced a magnificent tackle to rob a Granemore defender of possession. An inspirational run from O'Hare saw him fouled in a scoring position while Eugene Casey made no mistake in pointing the resultant free. Granemore restored their 5 point lead with a free but with 27 minutes played, a great catch from Genie McCooey initiated a Cullyhanna attack which led to an excellent Kyle McEvoy point. St Pat's were quite dominant throughout the second quarter but were guilty of some poor wides. A well worked Granemore 45 brought the home side another point before a strong finish to the first half reignited the match as a contest. Firstly, a superb fist-passing movement involving Barry McConville, Tony Donnelly and Eugene Casey opened up the Granemore defence allowing Kyle McEvoy to coolly slot the ball to the net. The deficit was then reduced to the minimum when Kyle latched onto a Genie McCooey flick and fired over another point.

At half-time, Granemore led by 1-6 to 1-5. The scoreline was a fair enough reflection on what could be best described as a half of two quarters which the home side dominated in the early stages, however an impressive late surge from Cullyhanna brought them back into the game well and indeed more accurate shooting could even have seen St Pat's lead at the break.

The second half began in great style for St Pat's as a foul on Shane McKeever allowed Kyle McEvoy to add to his ever increasing tally with a pointed free. Almost immediately, Tony Donnelly broke a ball well at midfield which was collected by Liam O'Hare who kicked a magnificent point. The perfect start to the half was concluded when St Pat's were awarded a penalty. There may have been an element of fortune in the decision but Shane McKeever did not dwell on such matters and dispatched the ball efficiently to the net to give his side a commanding 4 point lead three minutes in the second half, a lead that was all the more impressive given that they had trailed by 5 points 30 minutes into the first period. To sustain that level of scoring would be impossible however Rory O'Neill extended the lead further on 13 minutes when he combined well with Barry McConville before kicking a fine score. Granemore were always likely to mount a resurgence and they reduced the deficit significantly with three points in succession between the 16th and 23rd minutes as St Pat's ceded the initiative by retreating into a much too defensive formation. A pointed free by Eugene Casey stemmed the tide but a Granemore score with 4 minutes to go left just two points between the teams. Cullyhanna defended stoutly in the final stages and restricted Granemore to just a single further pointed free in the dying embers of injury time. The final whistle was greeted with huge relief by the Cullyhanna faithful as their side clung on to register a victory on a scoreline of St Patrick's 2-9 Granemore 1-11.

As the scoreline suggests, this was an entertaining and closely fought match which both sides dominated at certain stages. St Pat's have developed a welcome habit of winning tight matches this season and hopefully this is something which will continue as preparations for the Championship gather pace. This was a confidence boosting victory in Liam O'Hare recorded a fine performance, covering every blade of grass in a withdrawn role while Kyle McEvoy delivered another impressive tally of scores. Man of the match however was probably Eoin McArdle who was magnificent at corner-back throughout the second half, repelling wave after wave of Granemore attack.

Starting XV: C O'Neill; S Lennon, S Reel, E McArdle; M Murray, G McCooey, P McCreesh; B McConville, P Casey; G McCooey, E Casey (0-2), T Donnelly; S McKeever (1-0), L O'Hare (0-1), K McEvoy (1-5) Subs Used: N McShane, C O'Neill R O'Neill (0-1)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on July 19, 2011, 11:20:21 AM
Anyone got a list of the Armagh minor team and their clubs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Oraisteach on July 25, 2011, 01:41:01 AM
Maghery 2-10  Crossmaglen 1-10.  I hear that Oisin missded a PK.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on July 25, 2011, 07:17:36 AM
He didnt miss it, the goalkeeper saved it. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 25, 2011, 05:41:47 PM
Great game of football in Maghery yesterday evening. Again the refereeing in this county is brought into question, on two occasions Cross men should have seen red for striking but only saw yellow due to the referee bottling it. (I wonder had those players had Maghery jsereys on would the outcome have been different?) All or nothing in these cases, and people wonder why refs in these county get berated.

Anyway great spirit shown by Maghery, P and A Forker, Lavery all prominent, the keeper also did well to save the penalty.

Clans played out a draw with the Ogs, probably a game we should have won and a hugely improved performance of late. Less said about the referee the better, sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between incompetence and sheer contempt. A much needed point nonetheless and a bit of confidence going into the game with Sarsfields on Wednesday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 27, 2011, 09:45:15 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on July 25, 2011, 05:41:47 PM
Great game of football in Maghery yesterday evening. Again the refereeing in this county is brought into question, on two occasions Cross men should have seen red for striking but only saw yellow due to the referee bottling it. (I wonder had those players had Maghery jsereys on would the outcome have been different?) All or nothing in these cases, and people wonder why refs in these county get berated.

Anyway great spirit shown by Maghery, P and A Forker, Lavery all prominent, the keeper also did well to save the penalty.

Clans played out a draw with the Ogs, probably a game we should have won and a hugely improved performance of late. Less said about the referee the better, sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between incompetence and sheer contempt. A much needed point nonetheless and a bit of confidence going into the game with Sarsfields on Wednesday.

???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 27, 2011, 09:38:55 PM
ACL Division 1

Cross 3-14 Cullyhanna 0-08
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on July 27, 2011, 11:27:34 PM
QuoteCross 3-14 Cullyhanna 0-08

Maghery must have pissed Cross off.
The odd beating will tighten both sides up for the championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 29, 2011, 09:46:07 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on July 27, 2011, 11:27:34 PM
QuoteCross 3-14 Cullyhanna 0-08

Maghery must have pissed Cross off.
The odd beating will tighten both sides up for the championship.

Funny, TAM is normally very quick on with the notes for the paper, is he not about or something?  Both teams missing a few regulars, Mackin came on after 20 minutes, Tony Donnelly didn't play at all.  Cross missing Titch, Johnny Hanratty, Stephen Kernan, James Morgan and Aaron Cunningham.  It's only a league game and means feck all squared.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on July 29, 2011, 11:01:12 AM
TAM headed off to Barcelona, supposedly on holiday to eat octopus and the like, but probably to avoid having to write up the results of the Cross' game and read the triumphalist ramblings in the Tyrone thread!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mackers on July 29, 2011, 12:14:54 PM
He's away to the Camp Nou to kidnap Messi and see whether he can play in the corner for St Pat's. Him and Tasker would be a good combo!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 29, 2011, 12:44:27 PM
Quote from: mackers on July 29, 2011, 12:14:54 PM
He's away to the Camp Nou to kidnap Messi and see whether he can play in the corner for St Pat's. Him and Tasker would be a good combo!

From what I gather Messi would definitely be the better option at the minute for St Pats of the two of them :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on July 29, 2011, 03:02:37 PM
QuoteHim and Tasker would be a good combo!

Messi and messier?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on July 29, 2011, 11:07:16 PM
Soon be championship time...anyone fancy a flutter on anyone other than Crossmaglen?
Could Maghery take their league form into championship at 16/1?

1/2Crossmaglen Rangers
11/2Pearse Ogs
9/1Granemore
9/1Dromintee
10/1St Patricks Cullyhanna
14/1Ballymacnab
16/1maghery
20/1Armagh Harps
25/1Clan na nGael (Armagh)
40/1Mullaghbawn
50/1Carrickcruppen
50/1Sarsfields
50/1Whitecross
66/1Clann Eireann
66/1 St.Michaels, Newtown
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on July 30, 2011, 10:44:05 AM

Is there any logic to having ballymacnab at a shorter price than maghery?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on July 31, 2011, 06:02:58 PM
Cross beat Ballymacnab by 5 points in division1 ACL
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on July 31, 2011, 11:53:56 PM
ballymacnab already in quarter-final after getting a bye. whereas maghery have a first round game vrs Sarsfields.

Harps v Mullabawn
Cruppen v Clan na Gael
St.Pat's v Whitecross
Cross v Clann Eireann
Sarsfields v Maghery
Pearse Og v Dromintee
St.Michael's v Granemore
Bye - Ballymacnab
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 01, 2011, 10:44:10 PM
Dromintee played our seniors in a challenge game on Sunday, think they were missing a few but we duffed them and I always thought they would be one of the better teams in Armagh.

Any odds for these games? I know that challenge games means fcuk all but you can see enough of a team to see how they play or want to play
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stevie g 8 on August 02, 2011, 04:01:14 PM
when are these championship gamed on
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 02, 2011, 10:38:39 PM
Division 1 St Patrick's 4-11 Dromintee 0-7. I suppose the phony war of pre-championship league fixtures has begun.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 03, 2011, 09:07:52 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 02, 2011, 10:38:39 PM
Division 1 St Patrick's 4-11 Dromintee 0-7. I suppose the phony war of pre-championship league fixtures has begun.

Did it not start last week? :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 03, 2011, 09:27:22 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 03, 2011, 09:07:52 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 02, 2011, 10:38:39 PM
Division 1 St Patrick's 4-11 Dromintee 0-7. I suppose the phony war of pre-championship league fixtures has begun.

Did it not start last week? :P

Na last week was just one vastly superior side outclassing an also-ran.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on August 03, 2011, 10:09:40 AM
guys see the crupps won two games last week, clanns and ballymacnab, did they get any players back ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 03, 2011, 04:17:50 PM
Quote from: naka on August 03, 2011, 10:09:40 AM
guys see the crupps won two games last week, clanns and ballymacnab, did they get any players back ?
Apparently from what I was told they fielded a "weakened" side against us (Clans), we were also heavily depleted but they won by a point. Not sure what way to read into that game, the man masquerading as a referee had an overwhelming bearing on the outcome.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 03, 2011, 09:07:56 PM
Junior Championship

Cross 2nds 2-12 Killeavy 2nds 0-5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 06, 2011, 01:54:50 PM
Every SFC game set for the Athletic Grounds except Harps v Mullaghbawn which is in Cullyhanna ??? - What the f**k is that about?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 06, 2011, 01:56:58 PM
Maghery/Sarsfields is in Clann Eireann, Granemore/Newtown is in Keady...

Wouldn't be fair having M'bawn to travel to the city to play a city club would it? Not that Harps travelling to Cullyhanna is fair either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 06, 2011, 02:14:09 PM
I've been misinformed then.  Ogs V Dromintee is in AG.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 07, 2011, 06:32:02 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 06, 2011, 01:56:58 PM
Maghery/Sarsfields is in Clann Eireann, Granemore/Newtown is in Keady...

Wouldn't be fair having M'bawn to travel to the city to play a city club would it? Not that Harps travelling to Cullyhanna is fair either.

What's unfair about it? Only 10 / 15 minutes difference in travelling time. Where should the game be played in your sage opinion?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 07, 2011, 07:21:21 PM
ACL Division 1: St Patrick's 4-11 Dromintee 0-7

After their comprehensive defeat to Crossmaglen, St Pat's responded in fine style last Tuesday night with a comfortable victory over an under-strength Dromintee. Played in good conditions at St Patrick's Park, this was a match dominated by the home side almost throughout. Indeed the opening thirty seconds were perhaps the only period during which Cullyhanna appeared in trouble as a swift Dromintee passing move initiated from the throw-in resulted in a fisted point. After five minutes, Ciaran McKeever kicked a good point to equalise before Kyle McEvoy put his side in front with a well-struck 45 gained from excellent work by Eugene Casey. A pointed Kyle McEvoy free extended the advantage before magnificent vision from Robbie Tasker provided an opportunity for Liam O'Hare to open his personal scoring account. A great effort from Pearse Casey put his side four points to the good before Kyle McEvoy pointed another free. With Cullyhanna dominant in all sectors, it was only a matter of time before a decisive advantage accrued and a well delivered free from Ciaran McKeever on 21 minutes found Liam O'Hare in space in front of goal. O'Hare made no mistake slotting the ball into the Dromintee net for the opening goal of the match. A minute later, a glorious Kyle McEvoy point increased the advantage to eight.

While the forwards were grabbing attention with some eye-catching scores, the defence performed excellently as a unit and indeed it was to take 28 minutes for Dromintee to register their second and final point of the half. Any doubt that may have lingered about the eventual result was extinguished after 29 minutes when Robbie Tasker latched onto a Mal Mackin delivery and rounded the goalkeeper before finishing to an empty net. A long range Liam O'Hare point completed the scoring for the half and left the scoreline at the break – St Patrick's 2-8 Dromintee 0-2.

As was perhaps to be expected, Dromintee began the second period with a renewed sense of vigour and kicked four of the opening five points, the sole Cullyhanna reply coming from a fine Eugene Casey effort. After 12 minutes, a crucial interception by Stephen Reel initiated a flowing St Pat's passing move during which the ball progressed the entire length of the pitch before being dispatched over the Dromintee crossbar by Ciaran McKeever. Midway through the second half, another long delivery paid dividends as Robbie Tasker was first to react to Ciaran McKeever's kick. The corner forward collected the breaking ball before firing to the net for a third Cullyhanna goal. Dromintee responded with a pointed free before their misery was compounded when Robbie Tasker combined with Barry McConville to allow the latter to register his side's fourth goal with 9 minutes remaining. The match petered out as a contest with a Kyle McEvoy pointed free the only addition to the scoresheet as St Pat's ran out comfortable winners on a scoreline of 4-11 to 0-7.

This was a pleasing performance for which each player involved can take immense credit however with the championship only a week away, it is difficult to attribute too much importance to League matches at this time of year. That said, the performance was one of quality and the side will hope to replicate this display in the coming weeks.

Starting XV: C O'Neill; P McKeever, P McCreesh, M Murray; Eoin McArdle, G McCooey, N McShane; P Casey (0-1), M Mackin; B McConville (1-0), E Casey (0-1), L O'Hare (1-2), C McKeever (0-2), K McEvoy (0-5) R Tasker (2-0)

ACL Division 1: Maghery 3-5 St. Patrick's 0-10

There must be something about the Lough shore air that does not agree with our team as for the second game in a few weeks we have been more than generous in our defending around Lough Neagh. Having conceded 4 at Sarsfields a few weeks ago we managed to let in 3 here in the second-half at Maghery to end up losing a game that for 40 minutes we had totally dominated. The throw in coincided with the start of a downpour that never let up for the entire 60 minutes making conditions difficult for both teams. Cullyhanna belied the conditions playing some good football in the early stages with points from Eugene Casey (2) and Liam O'Hare easing the team into a 3 point lead after 10 minutes. As the half progressed St. Pat's dominance continued but unfortunately their finishing was for the most part very poor as wide followed wide. At half-time the lead of 0-5 to 0-1 was useful but really the advantage should have been at least treble what it was.

The sides exchanged points soon the resumption but Cullyhanna were at this stage still looking comfortable. However Maghery, probably wisely given the conditions, adopted a simple tactic of lobbying high balls into the square and hoping for the best. Generally such balls suit the defence but with the St. Pat's full-back line lacking the necessary physical or aerial authority it paid off in handsome style as three loose balls were finished to the net in a 10 minute period midway through the half. It was a body blow that was impossible to recover from and resulted in the loss of a match which really never should have been lost had those simple Maghery tactics been successfully countered. A disappointing result only a week away from the championship but perhaps it is better happening here in a game of little consequence if lessons can be learned for the future.

Team: Conor O'Neill, Peter McKeever, Paudie McCreesh, Michael Murray, Eoin McArdle, Stephen Reel, Niall McShane, Barry McConville, Malachy Mackin, Pearse Casey, Eugene Casey (0-5), Liam O'Hare (0-1), Shane McKeever (0-3), Ciaran McKeever, Kieran Hoey (0-1).

ACL Division 4: St Patrick's II 2-14 Killean 0-8

The Division 4 side continued their recent run of good form with a comprehensive victory at home to Killean on Sunday afternoon. They produced an excellent performance which aided their promotion aspirations and served as ideal preparation for their forthcoming championship quarter-final against Dromintee II. Brendan Quinn and Brendan Nugent got the goals while a meritorious team display was assisted by fine individual performances from Conor McShane, Peter Loughran, midfielders Paudie Mackin and Kevin Toner and Barry McKeever in attack.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on August 07, 2011, 07:21:54 PM
Anyone got any results from the junior and intermediate matches, I know tullysarn got beat by Eire og, in the junior, i don't think the sarren are ever going to win a c'ship, getting beat by a div 4 team and them playing div 2 ball. It will be a hard monkey to shake off
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on August 07, 2011, 11:06:35 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 07, 2011, 06:32:02 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 06, 2011, 01:56:58 PM
Maghery/Sarsfields is in Clann Eireann, Granemore/Newtown is in Keady...

Wouldn't be fair having M'bawn to travel to the city to play a city club would it? Not that Harps travelling to Cullyhanna is fair either.

What's unfair about it? Only 10 / 15 minutes difference in travelling time. Where should the game be played in your sage opinion?
id have thought newtown might have been more neutral, no? we had the same last year going to Cullyhanna to play M'bawn. To be honest though, it doesn't matter where the game is, you's should be beatin M'bawn handy enough with a full compliment of players.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 07, 2011, 11:21:03 PM
I'd have thought somewhere a bit more 'in between' the two, like Newtown as pearseog says, but no matter.

By the way you're quite the wordsmith Tac, excellent reports, a great asset to your club.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 08, 2011, 11:03:41 AM
A bad beating for Clans at the weekend and looking at the Cross team it was against about half the first team. Things looking very bad for the Francis Street men. By the table if Sarsfields take 3 points from their remaining games then Clans and Cruppen are down, and that doesn't account for any loses for the 2 bottom teams. With Clann Eireann likely to come up and St Peter's making a great move from Division 3 to Division 2 it certainly looks like the footballing landscape is changing in Lurgan. I have seen people having a go at the current management but that in my mind isn't fair either. The problem lies much deeper than that. They have been on the slide for the last few years and when you see Soupy coming back at 40, and being one of the better players, you have to wonder what has been happening at the underage level. They played Cross in this years minors and were blitzed off the field. I would be fearful for them if they do go to Division 2 as it is a real dog eat dog world, ask the Harps men. If there is not much coming through from underage then the slip could go further. Big few weeks for the Bluemen.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 08, 2011, 12:04:31 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 07, 2011, 11:21:03 PM
I'd have thought somewhere a bit more 'in between' the two, like Newtown as pearseog says, but no matter.

By the way you're quite the wordsmith Tac, excellent reports, a great asset to your club.

Thanks Fitzroyalty. The Maghery report wasn't mine though I must admit. I was away in Galway all weekend!

It takes 15 minutes to get to Cullyhanna from Mullaghbawn, and 25 - 30 minutes from Armagh. There is a bit of a disparity there but I really don't think it makes any difference, certainly it didn't the last time Harps played Mullaghbawn in the championship at the same venue. I might be a bit defensive here but we've put a lot of effort and investment into turnstiles, spectators area etc in order to get Championship matches and I believe that facilities are a more important concern than getting an equi-distant venue. Once its away from either side's own pitch, I don't think there's much of a problem.

As for our own venue, I'd much rather be playing Whitecross somewhere in South Armagh over the weekend rather than heading to the Athletic Grounds on a Monday night.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 08, 2011, 12:42:19 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 08, 2011, 11:03:41 AM
A bad beating for Clans at the weekend and looking at the Cross team it was against about half the first team. Things looking very bad for the Francis Street men. By the table if Sarsfields take 3 points from their remaining games then Clans and Cruppen are down, and that doesn't account for any loses for the 2 bottom teams. With Clann Eireann likely to come up and St Peter's making a great move from Division 3 to Division 2 it certainly looks like the footballing landscape is changing in Lurgan. I have seen people having a go at the current management but that in my mind isn't fair either. The problem lies much deeper than that. They have been on the slide for the last few years and when you see Soupy coming back at 40, and being one of the better players, you have to wonder what has been happening at the underage level. They played Cross in this years minors and were blitzed off the field. I would be fearful for them if they do go to Division 2 as it is a real dog eat dog world, ask the Harps men. If there is not much coming through from underage then the slip could go further. Big few weeks for the Bluemen.
I don't think the landscape is changing that much. Clann Eireann have for good while now been a strong Division II outfit with excellent underage structures, it would have been apparent from last year after Nab/G'more went up that they'd challenge for promotion this year.

St Peter's were Division II last year and have been yo-yoing between Division II and III for a while now. They may possibly find their feet next year but I don't think there is anything major going on there other than a good minor team which has bulked up their senior squad.

What I will agree is your assessment that we have been on the slide. The players we lost through retirement etc have been impossible to replace, and since 2008 we have been struggling through Division 1. Where we are now is probably deserving given our poor performances throughout the year, and most in the club would have already by now accepted that we will be in Division II next year.

There are good prospects coming through at underage, certainly the number of players on show yesterday in Cross either just out minor/still minor would pay testiment to that.

In the likely event that we are relegated, I'd be confident that the appropiate action would be taken to ensure that our stay in Division II is a short one... Granted, that is easier said than done.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 08, 2011, 12:49:05 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 08, 2011, 12:04:31 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 07, 2011, 11:21:03 PM
I'd have thought somewhere a bit more 'in between' the two, like Newtown as pearseog says, but no matter.

By the way you're quite the wordsmith Tac, excellent reports, a great asset to your club.

Thanks Fitzroyalty. The Maghery report wasn't mine though I must admit. I was away in Galway all weekend!

It takes 15 minutes to get to Cullyhanna from Mullaghbawn, and 25 - 30 minutes from Armagh. There is a bit of a disparity there but I really don't think it makes any difference, certainly it didn't the last time Harps played Mullaghbawn in the championship at the same venue. I might be a bit defensive here but we've put a lot of effort and investment into turnstiles, spectators area etc in order to get Championship matches and I believe that facilities are a more important concern than getting an equi-distant venue. Once its away from either side's own pitch, I don't think there's much of a problem.

As for our own venue, I'd much rather be playing Whitecross somewhere in South Armagh over the weekend rather than heading to the Athletic Grounds on a Monday night.
It's nothing against Cullyhanna and their facilities. For a first round game though the gate might not be that big, if judging by attendances in the last number of years and the countyboard's general reluctance to play doubleheaders is anything to go by.

Certainly, there was at least one Harps man unimpressed with the fixtures; but it could be worse... (Cross in the final, in Cross, springs to mind!)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 09, 2011, 08:10:36 PM
Harps v Mullabawn and Ogs v Dromintee both in Athletic Grounds in a double on sunday from 5pm, nice for us as opposed to travelling to Cullyhanna. 

Should be 2 tight games for different reasons, both ourselves and Mullabawn aren't setting the world alight and are (unfortunately) of a similar standard at the minute, dont see any betting anywhere but it'll be the toss of a coin (and that might be more entertaining having watched Mullabawn before :) ). Ogs v Dromintee should be a cracker, think the Ogs having taken their eye of the ball last year will be very committed this year and should have too much for Dromintee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 09, 2011, 08:52:14 PM
Bar one has the betting as:

1st Round Match Betting
Evs - Carrickcruppen
13/2 - Draw
Evs - Clan Na Gael

8/1 - Clann Eireann
14/1 - Draw
1/20 - Crossmaglen

1/10 - Granemore
12/1 - Draw
5/1 - St Michaels

8/13 - Armagh Harps
7/1 - Draw
6/4 - Mullaghbawn

6/4 - Dromintee
7/1 - Draw
8/13 - Pearse Ogs

4/11 - Maghery
7/1 - Draw
5/2 - Sarsfields

2/5 - St Pat's Cullyhanna
7/1 - Draw
9/4 - Whitecross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 09, 2011, 09:45:43 PM
There's normally an upset somewhere. Sarsfields will  hardly fear Maghery at a good price. Mullaghbawn & Dromintee could both win too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 10, 2011, 11:09:45 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on August 09, 2011, 08:10:36 PM
Harps v Mullabawn and Ogs v Dromintee both in Athletic Grounds in a double on sunday from 5pm, nice for us as opposed to travelling to Cullyhanna. 

Should be 2 tight games for different reasons, both ourselves and Mullabawn aren't setting the world alight and are (unfortunately) of a similar standard at the minute, dont see any betting anywhere but it'll be the toss of a coin (and that might be more entertaining having watched Mullabawn before :) ). Ogs v Dromintee should be a cracker, think the Ogs having taken their eye of the ball last year will be very committed this year and should have too much for Dromintee.

He who pays the piper calls the tune.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 10, 2011, 06:42:57 PM
Certainly makes more sense financially, an attractive double bill for the neutral.  I'd imagine most will take in the 2nd half of ours and then the other.  Have heard £7 for both which seems good value.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Don Johnson on August 11, 2011, 09:27:31 PM
Hope Charlie Stubbs has his Cruppen top ready for tomorrow night
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 11, 2011, 11:11:47 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on August 11, 2011, 09:27:31 PM
Hope Charlie Stubbs has his Cruppen top ready for tomorrow night

No doubt Don
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 13, 2011, 12:51:28 PM
Armagh SFC Clans 3-6 Cruppen 1-11

Great performance from the Clans, think they totally outclassed Cruppen in the second half although the scoreboard does not reflect this. A case of third time lucky against Cruppen, in both league encouters we threw away healthy leads to draw and lose by 1. Going into injury time (having led by 5 to be losing by 2) I thought it was more of the same but for a cracking goal to edge back in front.

Felt the ref could have been better, certainly made us work a lot harder for our frees than he did Cruppen. The quickly-taken free leading up to the Cruppen goal being a prime example, not disputing whether or not it was the right call, but he was certainly a lot quicker to blow his whistle than he was for any Clans frees.

Clans had plenty of young fellas featuring, two 16 years olds coming on, making good impacts, 4 18/19 year olds started the game. Think eight players including subs made their SFC debut though don't quote me on that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on August 13, 2011, 08:13:47 PM
Full time Cross 2-17 clan 0-10 - Jamie Clarke and Mickey Lenaghan with the goals in the first half
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Any craic on August 13, 2011, 10:13:56 PM
Video of the two goals from Crossmaglen v Clann Eireann - http://t.co/HYH2aOS (http://t.co/HYH2aOS)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 14, 2011, 03:25:06 PM
Eire Óg 2-14 St Patrick's II 0-6

St Pat's entered into their trio of season defining home matches on Sunday when they hosted runaway league leaders. With fellow promotion challengers Lissummon and Derrynoose also to visit St Patrick's Park in the coming weeks, home form will be the crucial factor in determining the result of Cullyhanna's promotion challenge. Unfortunately this was not to be a successful outing as the Craigavon side showed the form which has hoisted them to their lofty league position and produced an impressive display.

St Pat's dominated play in the opening minutes however could not muster a score. Eire Og showed their opponents how it was done after 3 minutes fashioning a fine point. The lead was doubled 5 minutes in with an Eire Og point. A third score followed after 11 minutes as Cullyhanna's manful defending was not enough to prevent Eire Óg's patient play being rewarded with a point. St Pat's finally opened their account 13 minutes in when Brendan Nugent kicked a magnificent score from distance. Having finally found their range, St Pat's doubled their tally as great work from Paul Donnelly allowed Cathal O'Neill to collect a breaking ball and fire over the crossbar from all of 40 metres.

Eire Óg were clearly keen to stamp out the home side's revival and they did so in ruthless fashion with a pointed free and an excellent counter-attacking move which resulted in a point after 19 minutes. The crucial score of the match came seven minutes before the break as Eire Og cut through the St Pat's defence before finishing to the net to open up a six point lead. Eire Og were playing with great determination and were clearly intent on securing the victory which would secure them promotion. Their objective became almost a certainty in the closing stages of the first half as they rattled over four points without reply to open up a commanding ten point advantage. Indeed two of those efforts could have resulted in goals but even the minor scores left Eire Og in a comfortable position at half-time, leading by 1-9 to the home side's 0-2.

St Pat's made some inroads into their deficit in the early stages of the second half with a fine point from Brendan Nugent in the opening seconds. Eire Og replied almost immediately before Paudie Mackin battled bravely to regain possession and fire over a point. A Cathal O'Neill pointed free reduced the Eire Og lead to 8 points after 8 minutes of the second half. Through the second period, the St Pat's side battled gallantly and achieved parity in terms of possession and terrority throughout much of the half. Unfortunately their efforts were only rewarded with one further score as Paudie Mackin kicked another point midway through the half. The match then entered a long scoreless spell before finishing with a flurry of Eire Og score as the Craigavon men managed 1-4 between the 28th minute and the full-time whistle to secure promotion on a scoreline of Eire Og 2-10 St Patrick's 0-6.

While the away side were undoubtedly deserved victors, the final scoreline was perhaps slightly flattering to the League champions and did little justice to Cullyhanna's efforts throughout the hour. For long stages, there was little between the sides in terms of general play however Eire Og excelled in the counter-attack and found scores much easier to come by than their opponents. For the home side, Conor McShane and Darren Mackin battled admirably in defence while Paudie Mackin had a mammoth match in midfield. Up front, Cathal O'Neill was accurate while Patsy McKeever produced a good hour's effort. Despite the defeat, Cullyhanna's promotion hopes are still very much alive and with a Junior championship quarter final to look forward to this weekend, these are exciting times for Mark McConville's men.

Starting XV: F Murphy; C McShane, D Mackin, M Rowland; P Donnelly, P Loughran, Mark Mone; K Toner, P Mackin (0-2); F Nugent, C O'Neill (0-2), Micky Mone, B Nugent (0-2), B Quinn, P McKeever Subs Used: P O'Neill, C Nugent, B Murray, N McConville
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 14, 2011, 05:35:46 PM
Any championship results/updates?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on August 14, 2011, 05:42:09 PM
Harps 2-05 0-3 M'Bawn
Half time

Dingle Daly saved a pen for Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Mickey Linden on August 14, 2011, 08:16:15 PM
Any updates on tonight game lads?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 14, 2011, 08:23:55 PM
Harps won by a goal. Ogs were 4 up heading into the later stages.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 14, 2011, 08:28:43 PM
Ogs won by 5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Mickey Linden on August 14, 2011, 08:43:23 PM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on August 14, 2011, 08:28:43 PM
Ogs won by 5

Cheers. After you boys cost me a fortune on Friday night about time I got a few quid back!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 14, 2011, 09:35:03 PM
Harps had a more emphatic win than the 2.10 to 1.10 final score would suggest I thought, we always looked in control and played some lovely football at times, we also went to sleep for long periods of the game thou and some erratic refereeing near the end from Kevin McNeice kept Mullaghbawn close.  Some fine perfomances on our side, Deccie McKenna would have been my MOTM, very classy looking.  We've a nice young side developing, a kind draw in the next round would be nice.

Disappointed in the Ogs V Dromintee game, bar the last 15-20 minutes it was really forgetable stuff, Ogs thoroughly deserving winners.  Tommy Turley ran the show for Ogs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on August 14, 2011, 09:53:19 PM
Any other results lads?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 15, 2011, 12:38:53 AM
Watched four of the weekend's SFC games, and have to say none of the winning teams have really stood out as potential threats to Cross retaining their title.

Pearse Og probably look like the best equipped team to do so, disposing of Dromintee who were poor tonight.

Granemore apparently made hardwork of Newtown so it would be hard to gauge where they are at in terms of mounting a challenge.

Assuming St Pat's and Maghery dispose of Whitecross and Sarsfields, they could possibly seen as potential banana skins for the feens...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on August 15, 2011, 09:33:45 PM
Pearse Og v St.Pats
Harps v Cross
Clann na Gael v Ballymacnab
Maghery v Granemore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on August 16, 2011, 03:55:30 PM
Jesus that must be the 5th time in 6th years we have drew cross. ah well I suppose to win it they are the ones to be bate
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on August 16, 2011, 08:11:59 PM
Quote from: pearseog on August 15, 2011, 09:33:45 PM
Pearse Og v St.Pats
Harps v Cross
Clann na Gael v Ballymacnab
Maghery v Granemore
any dates or venues yet,, :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on August 16, 2011, 08:34:43 PM
i think they are down for the 3rd and 4th Sept. I would imagine it would be a double header on both saturday and sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 17, 2011, 01:44:04 AM
Ogs to beat St Pats
Harps to beat Cross
Nab to beat Clans
Granemore to beat Maghery

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 17, 2011, 11:00:16 AM
Ive a feeling you have actually got every one wrong there pal. (Are you stag??) Anyway time will tell.....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 17, 2011, 05:05:26 PM
There is a game on Fri nite then either 2 on sat or a double header then Clans v Nab on either the following Mon r wed nite...thats all i know so far
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on August 18, 2011, 08:11:35 AM
I heard the games on Sat night are Maghery V Granemore at 6pm and Clans V Ballymacnab at 8 pm. Harps and Cross on Friday night, and Ogs v St. Pats on Monday night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 18, 2011, 10:59:04 AM
I hope your right lad :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 18, 2011, 12:54:28 PM
Friday 2nd September @ 8.00pm
Armagh Harps v Crossmaglen Rangers

Saturday 3rd September
@ 6.00pm Granemore v Maghery
@ 8.00pm Pearse Og v St.Patricks

Monday 5th September @ 8.00pm
Ballymacnab v Clan na Gael
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on August 19, 2011, 09:07:25 AM
Gents,

Anyone know the odds on the results below

Ogs to beat St Pats
Harps to beat Cross
Nab to beat Clans
Granemore to beat Maghery

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on August 19, 2011, 09:07:21 PM
Quote from: umgolaarmagh on August 19, 2011, 09:07:25 AM
Gents,

Anyone know the odds on the results below

Ogs to beat St Pats
Harps to beat Cross
Nab to beat Clans
Granemore to beat Maghery
the odds are on boylesports,,im not been biased but i think we are great value at 2/1 to beat ogs..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 20, 2011, 07:08:57 AM
Quote from: 1life 1club on August 19, 2011, 09:07:21 PM
the odds are on boylesports,,im not been biased but i think we are great value at 2/1 to beat ogs..

I don't know if you can get on  Boylesports from australia Umgola. Their odds are currently

Ogs 1-2
Harps 13-2
Ballymacnab 8-15
Granemore 4-5

Some great value bets there in:

Maghery, 5-4
St Pats 19-10
Clans 9-5

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on August 20, 2011, 07:12:00 AM
Crazy odds for St Pats
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 20, 2011, 01:56:04 PM
St Patrick's 0-11 Whitecross 0-10

After months of preparation, the Senior side finally got down to the serious business of the Armagh championship this week. Their opening fixture was subject to an unusual scheduling decision with Cullyhanna and Whitecross having to wait until Monday evening under lights at the Athletic Grounds to get their campaigns underway. Despite the unusual surroundings, it was St Pat's who settled the better as Eugene Casey opened the scoring with a 4th minute pointed free. Enjoying the early midfield advantage, St Patrick's seized control of the game however a couple of wides meant that eight minutes had elapsed before Robbie Tasker secured his side's second point after profiting from a great burst and pass from Liam O'Hare. A long range Whitecross point halved the lead before Liam O'Hare exhibited his pace again to leave his marker with no option other than to haul him down for a free which was pointed by Kyle McEvoy.

Cullyhanna's early dominance was not to continue however as Whitecross responded in style, managing three quality points in a row to put themselves into the lead. Parity was restored when Liam O'Hare combined with Pearse Casey, the latter sending an excellent shot over the crossbar from 35m. Another pointed Kyle McEvoy free edged the Pat's back into the lead on 22 minutes however only a wonderfully timed interception from Stephen Reel prevented a Whitecross goal. On 24 minutes, a Whitecross attack was nullified in impressive fashion by Peter McKeever but a point from the resultant 45 levelled matters again. Another fine effort from long range secured Whitecross the half-time lead as St Pat's suffered from their insistence on an overly elaborate style of attacking play. As the whistle blew for half-time Whitecross led by 0-6 to 0-5. The score at the break was a reasonably fair reflection on the first half hour's play. St Patrick's may have had slightly more of the ball however Whitecross made better use of their possession and were more clinical in front of goal.

Whatever manager Christopher Murray said to his Cullyhanna charges at half-time appeared to work as St Pat's emerged after the break a much more impressive outfit. Eugene Casey again grabbed the opening score of the half after only a minute's play while Kyle McEvoy followed this almost immediately with a 45 which the goalkeeper had to punch over the bar. After only three minutes, the half-time deficit had been turned into a two point lead when Niall McShane marauded forward from defence to land a magnificent score from distance. A downpour of rain then ensued which made conditions very difficult however St Patrick's were entirely dominant throughout the third quarter and had better decisions been made in front of goal, a match winning advantage could have been opened. Robbie Tasker was next on the scoresheet as he collected the ball near the corner. The tight angle was no deterrent as Tasker floated over a superb score to increase the lead to three. More wides were to follow as Cullyhanna failed to put the match to bed and with thirteen minutes remaining a debatable free earned Whitecross a point. The lead was only the minimum with 9 minutes remaining when a flowing Whitecross movement resulted in a point. The result was now firmly in the balance and a sense of anxiety swept across the Cullyhanna support. Their nerves were settled somewhat after 23 minutes when Liam O'Hare won possession in front of goal and despite pressure from his markers worked the ball out to Gary McCooey who pointed. With four minutes of normal time remaining, great vision from Robbie Tasker gave Barry McConville an opportunity in front of goal and when his high kick went between the posts, St Pat's looked to have the match well in hand. However despite the introduction of Ciaran McKeever, Whitecross were in no mood for lying down and a well taken point narrowed the deficit again. A minute into injury time, a well worked short free allowed Whitecross another score and with only a point between the sides, St Pat's were in dangerous territory. The opportunity to force a replay did arrive for Whitecross however the shot was mishit and as full back Stephen Reel emerged in style from defence with the ball, the full time whistle sounded to signal Cullyhanna's safe passage to the quarter finals.

While St Pat's just about merited their victory, the manner of their performance was far from impressive at stages and indeed with a touch more fortune Whitecross could have grabbed a draw or better. Certainly there can be little doubt that without an improved performance, Cullyhanna's championship run is unlikely to be long extended. There were some positives to take from Monday night's match with some good individual displays which will give the players in question confidence as the season reaches its crucial stages. Peter McKeever managed a sterling performance at corner-back while Pearse Casey also produced a superb hour's effort, particularly in light of the fact that this was his championship debut. Liam O'Hare was probably the man-of-the-match as he presented the Whitecross defence with a constant threat thanks to his speed in possession and tireless effort. Next up for St Pat's in the championship is a quarter-final against 2009 champions Pearse Ógs who will no doubt enter the match as strong favourites given their impressive opening victory over perennial challengers Dromintee. The match is to take place in the Athletic Grounds at 8pm on Saturday 3rd September.

Starting XV: C O'Neill; P McKeever, S Reel, M Murray; E McArdle, P McCreesh, N McShane (0-1); M Mackin (0-1), B McConville; R Tasker (0-2), E Casey (0-2), L O'Hare; G McCooey, K McEvoy (0-3), P Casey (0-1). Subs Used: S McKeever, C McKeever
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 20, 2011, 10:40:44 PM
Junior Championship: St Patrick's II 0-14 Dromintee II 1-6

The Seconds team's magnificent season continued with a superb victory over Dromintee on Saturday evening. Given the sides respective League positions, Cullyhanna entered the game as favourites however in the heat of championship football, nothing could be taken for granted. In front of a decent sized crowd, St Patrick's started the brighter with Ciaran Nugent opening the scoring after two minutes with a fine point. Their early dominance continued when Micky Mone outfoxed his defender and was fouled after 4 minutes. Cathal O'Neill pointed the resulting free to put his side two points clear. A good score under severe pressure from Brendan Nugent increased the lead to three points before Dromintee registered their first score through a pointed free. Brendan Nugent, who was a constant threat throughout the first half, was fouled after 12 minutes but brushed himself down to point the free while the lead was stretched to four points soon after when Genie McCooey fed Cathal O'Neill whose goal bound shot was tipped over the crossbar by the Dromintee netminder. A fine Dromintee point followed on 20 minutes but Cullyhanna seized control of the match again as Brendan Nugent cut inside his man and was bearing down on goal before being hauled unceremoniously to the floor. The fouled player pointed the free himself and was relied upon again to score another free two minutes later when Micky Mone was fouled at the end of a move which was initiated by a Peter Loughran interception. Brendan Nugent pointed his third free in a row on 27 minutes to give his side a comfortable six point advantage. Dromintee edged slightly closer late in the half thanks to an expertly taken point with the outside of the boot.

The half ended with St Pat's leading by 8 points to Dromintee's 3. The Cullyhanna men were fully deserving of their lead having dominated possession and territory throughout the first however Dromintee showed enough in patches during the half to suggest that they remained dangerous opponents. The second half began in great style for St Pat's as Micky Mone pointed a great shot on the turn after only ten seconds. A minute later, the advantage was seven points as Patsy McKeever added a good point. A brace of Dromintee points from frees kept them in touch as St Pat's began to tire in the vast expanses of the Crossmaglen pitch. Midway through the half, Ciaran Nugent managed a point after a shot from Rory O'Neill had been blocked but Dromintee replied almost immediately with a point of their own. Dromintee were handed a lifeline with 8 minutes remaining as they hammered the ball into the roof of the Cullyhanna net. The concession of a goal meant that the two point St Patrick's lead appeared extremely fragile however Dromintee were unable to build on their goal with further scores. The Cullyhanna ship was steadied when Micky Mone expertly picked out Patsy McKeever who beat his man and fisted a point while a Cathal O'Neill pointed free on 27 minutes gave his side the relative security of a four point lead. Try as they might, Dromintee could not manage another score as St Patrick's defended manfully  and Cullyhanna finished in style when Paul Donnelly produced a superb effort deep into injury time, soloing the most of 50 yards before kicking a magnificent score to put his side 0-14 to 1-6 in front at the death.

The final whistle was met by great scenes of jubilation by the Cullyhanna players, mentors and supporters. While there were one or two awkward moments in the second half, this was a victory which was fully merited. To suggest that this side has exceeded expectations this season would be very much an under-statement as even the most optimistic of Cullyhanna supporters could scarcely have imagined that the Seconds would mount a serious challenge for promotion and reach the latter stages of the Championship. With a number of crucial League matches in the coming weeks, there will be little respite for the lads however they have shown this season that they are well fit for whatever the schedule throws at them. On the night, the best individual performers were Mark Mone and Conor McShane in defence while Genie McCooey and Brendan Nugent also had excellent games.

Starting XV: F Murphy; C McShane, D Mackin, M Rowland; P Loughran, P Donnelly (0-1), Mark Mone; K Toner, P Mackin; C Nugent (0-2), C O'Neill (0-3). G McCooey; B Nugent (0-5), Micky Mone (0-1), P McKeever (0-1) Subs Used: R O'Neill, C O'Neill, F Nugent, B Murray
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on August 21, 2011, 10:54:49 PM
Nab beat Maghery today in the league
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: passedit on August 26, 2011, 12:31:41 PM
Any of you orangemen able to give directions to St Pauls Lurgan? Know it's in Taghnevan somewhere, just don't want to end up in Mourneview.

Cheers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on August 27, 2011, 08:17:32 PM
Its actually very easy not to end up in Mourneview - as Soon as you see the red, white and blue flags and paving and the LVF murals - stop and turn around.  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 28, 2011, 02:16:35 PM
Minor Championship Quarter Final – St Patrick's 1-12 Crossmaglen Rangers 1-10

The highlight of the week's football was certainly the pulsating Minor championship match which took place at St Patrick's Park last Monday night. Our neighbours and great rivals Crossmaglen were the visitors and the two sides served up a match of great skill and intensity, exhibiting all the best traditions of the Association. The opening stages were fairly even in nature with the opening Crossmaglen being cancelled out by an Anton McCooey score. Two Crossmaglen points gave them an early lead as the away side began to dominate however a magnificent score from Aidan Nugent kept Cullyhanna in touch. Things looked ominous for the home side after 8 minutes when Crossmaglen cut through the Cullyhanna defence with ease before finishing to the net. Cullyhanna began to get to grips with the pace of the match around ten minutes in when a long range Aidan Nugent point reduced the deficit to three. After 12 minutes, Colm Hoey burst forward after a fine catch before laying the ball off to Conor Nugent who struck a sweet score from a tight angle. Two minutes later Kevin Hoey assisted Aidan Nugent who completed his hat-trick of first half points however a Crossmaglen score soon after extended their lead to two points again.

On 22 minutes, a great Cullyhanna move which again involved Kevin Hoey and Aidan Nugent sent Conor Nugent through on goal and he made no mistake in pointing. As St Pat's continued to dominate the play, a superb Colm Hoey point brought them back level with 5 minutes remaining in the half. A further pointed free from Conor Nugent completed the revival and left St Pat's ahead at the break on a scoreline of 0-8 to 1-4. In truth the one point lead appeared to be a poor reward for the efforts of the side in the final twenty minutes of the first half. Having seized the initiative at midfield and produced some excellent football, Cullyhanna were unfortunate not to be further ahead and will be have been mindful of the fact that Crossmaglen sides are rarely easily defeated.

The slender half-time lead was soon extended as St Patrick's commenced the second half in perfect fashion. 50 seconds after the throw in, the ball was nestling in the Crossmaglen net when Conor Nugent put Aidan Nugent through on goal. Aidan made no mistake as he coolly slotted the ball through the goalkeeper's legs for a crucial goal. Crossmaglen responded almost immediately with a point but with four minutes gone in the half, the Cullyhanna advantage was five thanks to points from a Conor Nugent free and a terrific solo run and long range score from Sean Connell. This was to be as wide as the margin was to develop however as Crossmaglen showed great resilience to get themselves back into the match with two points in the 5th and 7th minutes. Only for a fine save from St Pat's goalkeeper Gary Keenan the match would have been level after 12 minutes but Cullyhanna responded to this scare in style as Colm Hoey produced an inspirational 50 yard run before landing a magnificent point. The result was almost put beyond doubt midway through the second period when Aidan Nugent fooled his marker before slipping the ball to Shane Conlon whose goalbound effort forced a great save from the Crossmaglen custodian.

Inevitably the final quarter saw some intense Crossmaglen pressure and they sought to cut the Cullyhanna advantage. A point with 12 minutes to go brought the Rangers within a goal. However despite Cross dominating possession in this period, it was Cullyhanna who managed the next score as great vision by Sean Connell found Gareth Mackin in space who kicked a badly needed point. A long range Crossmaglen effort was tipped over the bar a minute later to leave only a major score between the sides again. As was to be expected, Crossmaglen attacked in waves in the final stages as they desperately sought to engineer the goal which would force a replay. It took some heroic defending to repel Rangers in the closing minutes however St Pat's were equal to the task. With a minute of injury time played, a Crossmaglen effort on goal from distance collided against the crossbar and bounced over for a point. This was to be as close as the visitors were to come and the final whistle was met with rapturous applause from the Cullyhanna faithful as St Pat's secured their semi-final berth on a score-line of St Patrick's 1-12 Crossmaglen Rangers 1-10.

This was a magnificently enthralling match which Cullyhanna just about deserved to win. However both teams can take pride in their efforts throughout the hour as the two sides played their part in a very enjoyable contest. The scoring exploits of the two Nugents, Aidan and Conor, in attack was perhaps the difference between the teams while county stars Colm Hoey and Sean Connell were integral to the Cullyhanna victory. The entire squad and the management team of Barry McConville and Sean Nugent deserve immense credit however they will be fully aware that the tests will only become more difficult as the competition enters its later stages.

Starting XV: Gary Keenan; Phelim Savage, Sean Connell (0-1), Neil Donnelly; Shane Conlon (0-1), Ciaran McCooey, Cathal Donnelly; Gareth Mackin (0-1), Colm Hoey (0-1); Conor Connolly, Aidan Nugent (1-3), Kevin Hoey; Phelim McArdle, Conor Nugent (0-4), Anton McCooey (0-1) Subs Used: Aodhan Conlon

ACL Division 4: St Patrick's II 2-16 Clady 0-8

Cullyhanna's hopes of promotion to Division 3 were kept firmly on track on Saturday evening when a tricky looking trip to Clady resulted in a comprehensive victory, the manner of which appeared extremely unlikely during certain stages of the match. All away matches in this division tend to be difficult affairs and the home side opened the scoring in this one with an early free. Cullyhanna responded to the concession of the opening point in fine style as a good move resulted in a second minute point by Brendan Nugent. Cullyhanna seized the advantage in the third minute when full forward Brendan Quinn pounced on a loose ball in the Clady penalty area before transferred to Brendan Nugent who made no mistake in firing the ball past the keeper for a goal. A pointed free from Cathal O'Neill and a Ciaran Nugent score presented Cullyhanna with a useful early lead however Clady regained a foothold in the match with a couple of pointed frees and indeed they missed a decent goal chance which would have left the sides level. With 19 minutes played, Brendan Nugent steadied the Cullyhanna ship when he turned smartly close to goal before being fouled. The fouled player pointed the resulting free himself and was on the scoresheet again a minute later when profiting from a Patsy McKeever pass to kick another score. Despite facing a five point deficit, Clady were in no mood to lie down and accept defeat and the home side rallied impressively in the final ten minutes of the half kicking three unanswered points before half-time to get within two points at the break as St Pat's led on a score-line of 1-5 to 0-6.

Although the first half St Patrick's performance was by no means impressive, having secured a lead despite playing against the slope in the first thirty minutes, Cullyhanna would have been strong favourites heading into the second period. And so it proved as the defining score of the match arrived two minutes into the half when a long hopeful ball from Kevin Toner was dropped by a Clady defender. Brendan Nugent was ideally placed to seize the loose ball and a superb finish to the corner of the net handed his side a five point advantage. Clady replied with a pointed free but 5 minutes into the half Ciaran Nugent combined well with Patsy McKeever to allow Ciaran to kick a fine score. A good point from midfielder Peter O'Neill followed before Clady responded with a point after 7 minutes. However this was to prove to be the final score of the match for the home side as a Brendan Nugent pointed free after 10 minutes signalled a period of almost unrivalled dominance for Cullyhanna in the final third of the match. St Pat's produced some quality football in the final stages as they put their opponents to the sword in fine style producing some magnificent scores. Between the 11th and 13th minutes Ciaran Nugent, Cathal O'Neill and Patsy McKeever appeared to having a private battle to see who could manage the most impressive score as each delivered his own point of real quality. Further points followed from Cathal O'Neill and Patsy McKeever before team mentor Anthony Quinn marked his welcome return to playing action with a fine score. With 8 points to go, a Paul Donnelly point laid on by Patsy McKeever put Cullyhanna 13 points in front as the match petered out, having long been finished as a competitive contest. There was time for one final flourish however as strong work from substitute Conor Durnin allowed him to work the ball to James Thompson who fired over the final point of the match.

At the final whistle, St Patrick's were comfortable victors on a scoreline of 2-16 to 0-8. The wide margin of victory can probably be attributed to the additional fitness of the Cullyhanna side who have been involved in championship action in recent weeks. Certainly this was a closely fought affair for the opening two thirds of the match and while St Pat's certainly did not produce their finest form of the season, it was a creditable win given the absence of a number of key players. Tougher tests lie ahead however and this level of performance will need to be improved upon if the aspirations of promotion are to be realised.

Starting XV: F Murphy; M Rowland, C McShane, Mark Mone; P Loughran, P Donnelly (0-1), C Thompson; K Toner, P O'Neill (0-1); C Nugent (0-3), C O'Neill (0-3), F Nugent; B Nugent (2-4), B Quinn, P McKeever (0-2). Subs Used: O Carragher, A Quinn (0-1), B Murray, C Durnin, J Thompson (0-1)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 28, 2011, 09:49:01 PM
Minor Championship Semi finals are as follows
Div 1
Armagh Harps v St Patricks
Silverbridge v (P'Og/Kdy)/Killeavy
Div 2
Ballymacnab v Carrickcruppen
Corraghill Blues v Mullaghbawn
Div 3
St Pauls v Maghery
Madden v Derrynoose

These games are scheduled for the 5th Sept
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 29, 2011, 04:16:41 PM
ACL Division 1

Granemore sent their B team to Cross on Friday night for the league game against us.

What was this all about.?

Hardly ideal preparation for either club ahead of their respective senior championship fixtures this weekend. ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on August 29, 2011, 04:19:59 PM
Quote from: crossfire on August 29, 2011, 04:16:41 PM
ACL Division 1

Granemore sent their B team to Cross on Friday night for the league game against us.

What was this all about.?

Hardly ideal preparation for either club ahead of their respective senior championship fixtures this weekend. ???

Presumably they wanted to get some hard training in their legs before the championship weekend. Avoids the possibility of injuries too. Ourselves and Ballymacnab postponed our fixture as well. Its debatable whether this is the right strategy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on August 29, 2011, 09:45:34 PM
Time will tell.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 01, 2011, 12:31:56 AM
Paul Grimley replaces Donal Murtagh in the county setup...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 01, 2011, 12:42:29 AM
QuotePaul Grimley replaces Donal Murtagh in the county setup...

The same Bainisteoir bib should just about fit! 
Title: Armagh Club Football Quarter-final Previews
Post by: GAA_Punter on September 01, 2011, 08:29:28 AM
Crossmaglen Rangers V Armagh Harps, 8pm Friday

The all-conquering Crossmaglen Rangers are odds on favourites, not just to dispose of former Club Championship finalists Armagh Harps this Friday evening at St. Oliver Plunkett Park, but to retain their crown as Armagh Club Champions.

This is a repeat of last year's quarter-final and although the Harps scored 3-4 to Rangers 1-12, two of those goals against Cross came in the last two minutes of the game and was not a fare reflection on a match dominated by Rangers.

Crossmaglen comfortably lie top of Division one, losing only twice during this campaign. They have scored an average of 3-12 a game for the past five games and most worryingly for Harps, put 7-20 past Granemore only last week in the league. They put out a weakened side against Division Two leaders Clann Eireann in the last round of the championship and still hammered them 2-17 to 0-10.

The Harps, beaten finalists in 2009, overcame Mullaghbawn in their last round 2-10 to 1-10 with star performer Ultan Lennon helping himself to 2-6 in the process. The second half of that game saw Harps concede 1-7 and only score five points to snatch victory. Their defence will need to be on top form if they are to have any chance of stopping Rangers.

It's hard to see past the reigning Armagh Club, League and All-Ireland club champions with their current crop of county stars being bolstered by new and ever emerging talent from the youth ranks. Expect a high scoring, one-sided encounter from the Cross men as they will no doubt advance to the semi-finals with consummate ease.
By Paraic Collins

Maghery Sean MacDermott's v Granemore, 6pm, Saturday
This club championship quarter-final pits two of the outside favourites, expected to give reigning Armagh club champions Crossmaglen a run for their money, head to head on Saturday evening in the small village of Maghery, in south-west of the county.

Maghery enter this game on the back of some good league form, winning three out of their last four games, most noticeably against defending champions Crossmaglen Rangers.

This time last year, Sean Macdermott's were knocked out at the same stage of the championship to St. Pat's on a score line of 1-9 to 0-9– But injury's and an array of suspensions for the Blue and Gold, played a major part in that defeat– This year's championship saw them record a slim victory over local rivals Sarsfields in the previous round by a single point. Despite notching up 13 points, their forward line needs to start reaching their potential if they are to advance to the next round.
Granemore reached the semi-final last year and were widely tipped to go all the way but a miss-firing forward line could only muster a paltry eight scores over the hour and were eventually dumped out by the aforementioned St. Pats. In the last round the White and green, for the second year running, defeated St. Michaels by only two pints and will need to vastly improve if they are to overcome the Loughshore men.

Granemore will look to brothers Toner, Kieran and Barry, to dominate possession in the mid-field and supply good ball to their forwards who have the ability to cause trouble to any defence.
Expect Maghery to shade this tight encounter. Their current league form gives them too much momentum and Granemore shipped a whopping 7-20 against Rangers recently.
By Paraic Collins

Pearse Og V St Patricks, Armagh, 8pm Saturday
There is a very interesting senior football tie down for decision in the Armagh Senior football championship this Saturday evening when Pearse Og take on St Patricks of Cullyhanna. While on paper, this looks like a simple enough win for Pearse Og, one can certainly not write off St Patricks and many punters are bound to be tempted by the odds of almost 2/1.

rest on
http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/gaa/47810/
Title: Re: Armagh Club Football Quarter-final Previews
Post by: Ulick on September 01, 2011, 10:59:39 AM
Ronan Clarke back for the Ogs?
Title: Re: Armagh Club Football Quarter-final Previews
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 01, 2011, 11:21:03 AM
Poor research, games being played in Cross and Maghery?  Ronan Clarke playing? He'll be lucky to ever play again.  We "put out a weakened side"?  We were weakened but not though choice!  And what about poor Clans and the 'Nab does their match not count?? ??? 
Title: Re: Armagh Club Football Quarter-final Previews
Post by: pearseog on September 01, 2011, 11:26:36 AM
Quote from: GAA_Punter on September 01, 2011, 08:29:28 AM
Crossmaglen Rangers V Armagh Harps, 8pm Friday

The all-conquering Crossmaglen Rangers are odds on favourites, not just to dispose of former Club Championship finalists Armagh Harps this Friday evening at St. Oliver Plunkett Park, but to retain their crown as Armagh Club Champions.

This is a repeat of last year's quarter-final and although the Harps scored 3-4 to Rangers 1-12, two of those goals against Cross came in the last two minutes of the game and was not a fare reflection on a match dominated by Rangers.

Crossmaglen comfortably lie top of Division one, losing only twice during this campaign. They have scored an average of 3-12 a game for the past five games and most worryingly for Harps, put 7-20 past Granemore only last week in the league. They put out a weakened side against Division Two leaders Clann Eireann in the last round of the championship and still hammered them 2-17 to 0-10.

The Harps, beaten finalists in 2009, overcame Mullaghbawn in their last round 2-10 to 1-10 with star performer Ultan Lennon helping himself to 2-6 in the process. The second half of that game saw Harps concede 1-7 and only score five points to snatch victory. Their defence will need to be on top form if they are to have any chance of stopping Rangers.

It's hard to see past the reigning Armagh Club, League and All-Ireland club champions with their current crop of county stars being bolstered by new and ever emerging talent from the youth ranks. Expect a high scoring, one-sided encounter from the Cross men as they will no doubt advance to the semi-finals with consummate ease.
By Paraic Collins

Maghery Sean MacDermott's v Granemore, 6pm, Saturday
This club championship quarter-final pits two of the outside favourites, expected to give reigning Armagh club champions Crossmaglen a run for their money, head to head on Saturday evening in the small village of Maghery, in south-west of the county.

Maghery enter this game on the back of some good league form, winning three out of their last four games, most noticeably against defending champions Crossmaglen Rangers.

This time last year, Sean Macdermott's were knocked out at the same stage of the championship to St. Pat's on a score line of 1-9 to 0-9– But injury's and an array of suspensions for the Blue and Gold, played a major part in that defeat– This year's championship saw them record a slim victory over local rivals Sarsfields in the previous round by a single point. Despite notching up 13 points, their forward line needs to start reaching their potential if they are to advance to the next round.
Granemore reached the semi-final last year and were widely tipped to go all the way but a miss-firing forward line could only muster a paltry eight scores over the hour and were eventually dumped out by the aforementioned St. Pats. In the last round the White and green, for the second year running, defeated St. Michaels by only two pints and will need to vastly improve if they are to overcome the Loughshore men.

Granemore will look to brothers Toner, Kieran and Barry, to dominate possession in the mid-field and supply good ball to their forwards who have the ability to cause trouble to any defence.
Expect Maghery to shade this tight encounter. Their current league form gives them too much momentum and Granemore shipped a whopping 7-20 against Rangers recently.
By Paraic Collins

Pearse Og V St Patricks, Armagh, 8pm Saturday
There is a very interesting senior football tie down for decision in the Armagh Senior football championship this Saturday evening when Pearse Og take on St Patricks of Cullyhanna. While on paper, this looks like a simple enough win for Pearse Og, one can certainly not write off St Patricks and many punters are bound to be tempted by the odds of almost 2/1.

rest on
http://www.sportsnewsireland.com/gaa/47810/

Can a moderator please take that down?
what a load of bullshit. so many mistakes.
in addition to bcb1's comments. dromintee knocked out granemore last year. yes cross beat granemore by 7-20 or whatever it was but he didn't mention it was granemore B team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club Football Quarter-final Previews
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 01, 2011, 05:58:06 PM
I agree. When previewing championship quarter finals someone should tell this idiot there are usually 4 quarter finals!  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 02, 2011, 02:49:19 PM
Looking forward to the game tonight, nobody expects us to get within an ass's roar so we are are in a no lose situation.  All I want to see is maximun effort and as a Harps man I will go home happy.

Sadly french's are not offering a handicap score to get a wee bet on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 02, 2011, 03:49:57 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 02, 2011, 02:49:19 PM
Looking forward to the game tonight, nobody expects us to get within an ass's roar so we are are in a no lose situation.  All I want to see is maximun effort and as a Harps man I will go home happy.

Sadly french's are not offering a handicap score to get a wee bet on.

Spirit i think yous will give a good account tonight and with a we bit of luck and belief you just never know but i expect Cross to win but only by 3pts. Looking forward to it...good luck.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 02, 2011, 08:39:49 PM
Cross 2-05 Harps 1-03 HT wet night, but result will probably be as expected.

FT Cross 6-12 Harps 1-06!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 09:33:24 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 02, 2011, 08:39:49 PM
Cross 2-05 Harps 1-03 HT wet night, but result will probably be as expected.

FT Cross 6-12 Harps 1-06!

That's a serious kicking!! scored as many goals as Harps. Cross looking unstoppable again
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 02, 2011, 10:58:16 PM
Jamie Clarke is some player. Not only did he take a couple of goals himself, but he delivered some great passes when bottled up. Oisin only played in the second half, but he still knows where the posts are!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 11:37:55 PM
Ulster Champions again I'd say. Great team and they lay down the marker for the rest
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 03, 2011, 12:27:25 AM
A few games yet before talk of winning Ulster. But Rangers would be more entertaining than the intercounty Ulster champions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 03, 2011, 11:44:30 AM
Went pear shaped for us in the last 20 minutes, up until that point we had been putting in a very positive performance, sitting at 2.7 to 1.6 Cross just stepped on the accelerator.  We played without sweepers (perhaps foolhardy but what do you do against a team with so many threats all over the pitch?) and gave it a go, unfortunately for us Cross are really on a different planet, some of the movement going forward was direct, very slick and deadly effective.  We contributed to our downfall with over elaboration in hand passing which directly lead to 3 or 4 Cross goals.  At the end of the day you just had to admire Cross, that was seriously impressive stuff.   I hope the management and team take the few positives from it as we are on the right track with the youth development - we'll get there in a couple of years.  Great performance from Paddy McCoy, also thought Gareth Richards had a really good game in MF and tootsie mcconville did all that could be asked of him marking Jamie Clarke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on September 03, 2011, 01:51:51 PM
Any updated league tables anywhere?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on September 03, 2011, 06:22:30 PM
Quote from: topgun on September 03, 2011, 01:51:51 PM
Any updated league tables anywhere?

http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/ (http://www.armaghgaa.net/forum/f25/)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 03, 2011, 06:33:06 PM
Any news on the maghery v granemore match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Mack the finger on September 03, 2011, 07:43:04 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 03, 2011, 06:33:06 PM
Any news on the maghery v granemore match?

Granemore 2-12 Maghery 2-7 FT
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 03, 2011, 10:05:41 PM
Ogs were 7 up on St Pats tonight when I left with time almost up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 03, 2011, 11:45:33 PM
I expect the title to go to one of the recent winners. The question is whether the contenders will meet before the final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 04, 2011, 09:02:56 PM
Senior Championship: St Patrick's 2-4 Pearse Ógs 2-11

The Saturday night lights did not illuminate a vintage performance last weekend as St Patrick's bowed out of the Senior championship in timid fashion. Having put the eventual All-Ireland champions to the pin of their collar last year, hopes were high of another decent run this season but all expectations were dashed as Pearse Ogs deservedly defeated a Cullyhanna side who produced a very mediocre display.

The warning signs were apparent in the very early stages as Pearse Ogs swept through the Cullyhanna defence to kick a score after only a minute. Paul Duffy doubled the Armagh team's advantage with a magnificent score five minutes in. St Pat's were very wasteful in the opening stages, squandering a number of opportunities. It was to take 11 minutes for Cullyhanna to register their first point, through a Robbie Tasker free. The next score was a major one as a ball in from Eoin McArdle was grabbed by Robbie Tasker who effortlessly rounded the hapless Pearse Ogs goalkeeper before finishing to the net. Goals are often at a premium in championship football and St Pat's would have hoped to build on this score but Pearse Ogs had different ideas. The Armagh city men took a mere three minute to entirely cancel out the major score as they kicked three unanswered points. The needless concession of a free on 26 minutes put the Ogs further clear before a perfectly executed Robbie Tasker 45 brought Cullyhanna back within the minimum. But Pearse Ogs were to have the final say in a somewhat lacklustre first half when direct tactics paid dividends in the form of a point.

With the half time score standing at 0-7 to 1-2 in favour of the Ogs the game was most certainly in the balance. The first half was quite even throughout however Pearse Ogs were the much the more the clinical side and were good value for their slim advantage.

The second period commenced in controversial circumstances as Robbie Tasker profited from a long pass. Tasker's shot appeared to perfectly dissect the uprights however the umpire failed to award the point which the majority of the crowd were convinced Cullyhanna had scored. Consultation with the umpires and linesman failed to change the referee's mind and so the score did not stand. Three minutes in, St Pat's took the lead when a Eugene Casey found Kieran Hoey in an unusual amount of space close to goal. A great finish set the Pearse Ogs net bulging and put Cullyhanna into the lead by a point. The opportunity to increase the lead presented itself on a couple of occasions however scores proved hard to come by. A Pearse Ogs free levelled maters before a great fetch from Mal Mackin at midfield initiated an attack which involved Liam O'Hare and resulted in a fine Kieran Hoey point. 12 minutes in an excellent Pearse Og move created a goal for the Armagh men but midway through the half Kieran Hoey combined with Liam O'Hare to allow the former to fire over his second point of the game. With 13 minutes remaining and only a point separating the sides, the definitive moment of the match arrived as a Pearse Ogs attacker soloed through on goal. The tackle from Micky Murray appeared to a clean one winning possession outside the penalty area yet the referee decided to award a penalty. Despite the fact that his hesitation meant that counsel was sought from both umpires, the penalty stood and when the kick was converted, St Pat's were left facing an uphill battle. Facing a four point deficit, the task was no doubt a difficult one however the manner in which the remaining minutes were approached left much to be desired. Not a single score was added to the St Pat's total as the side appeared to accept defeat as their lot with much too little indignation. Three late points from Pearse Ogs meant that the match petered out into a comfortable victory for the 2009 county champions on a scoreline of 2-11 to 2-4.

While the final score certainly suggests that Cullyhanna were comprehensively defeated, there is perhaps a deeper story behind the bare statistics of the scoreboard. No doubt Pearse Ogs finished deserving victors but the match was very much in the balance prior to the hotly disputed penalty. The facts of the match tell their own story however and with only two points from play and two scorers in total, it is difficult to make a convincing case suggesting that St Pat's deserved further progress. 2011 will now be condemned a season of frustration during which no progress was really made. It falls on all those involved in the team to refresh over the winter and approach 2012 with a renewed sense of commitment and vigour.

Starting XV: C O'Neill; P McKeever, S Reel, M Murray; E McArdle, P McCreesh, N McShane; B McConville, M Mackin; L O'Hare, E Casey, R Tasker (1-2); C McKeever, G McCooey, K Hoey (1-2) Sub used: S McKeever

ACL Division 4: St Patrick's 1-13 O'Hanlon's 3-6

This match was expected to a be comfortable outing for a St Patrick's side preparing for a championship semi-final however the facile victory expected did not materialise as O'Hanlons belied their lowly league position by outplaying the Cullyhanna men for large portions of this match.

O'Hanlon's were first to register a point and although Brendan Murray replied almost immediately for Cullyhanna with a score to level matters. Poor defending was almost to prove Cullyhanna's downfall as O'Hanlon's took advantage of their opponent's generous marking to register two goal in the opening 11 minutes. Points from Cathal O'Neill and Patsy McKeever came between these scores however midway through the match, the visitors led by four points. A magnificent solo run from Paul Donnelly allowed the defender to kick a score himself before O'Hanlon's scored again. Brendan Nugent's goalbound effort was pushed over the bar while another Cathal O'Neill point brought Cullyhanna within two. O'Hanlon's completed the half's scoring with a point to secure a deserved half-time lead on a scoreline of 2-3 to 0-6.

The second half began as a fairly even affair as two O'Hanlon' points were each responded to by Cullyhanna scores from Kevin Toner and Francie Nugent. Trailing by 3 points heading into the final third, an upset looked firmly on the cards however the introduction of Owen Carragher steadied the Cullyhanna ship somewhat as Carragher pointed from long range. A great burst from Peter Loughran allowed Cathal O'Neill to decrease the deficit to the minimum with a point. With 10 minutes remaining Cullyhanna drew level thanks to a Brendan Murray point. Paul Donnelly's second score put his side in the lead however those who expected O'Hanlon's to capitulate at this point were in for a rude awakening when a great run and point brought the Poyntzpass men level again. Brendan Murray edged his side into the lead before an O'Hanlon's goal from a long ball looked to have sealed Cullyhanna's fate. To be fair to St Pat's, whatever the deficiencies in their performance, their spirit was unquestioned as they poured forward in droves in search of another score. Right at the death, a crossed ball from Brendan Nugent found Christy Thompson and the wing half-back made no mistake in rattling the net to secure St Pat's a barely deserved victory.

This was certainly a far from wonderful performance from a side who will have to improve immeasurably before their championship semi-final. That said, they showed remarkable composure to create the winning goal and similar battling qualities will be required in the final matches if promotion is to be achieved. With 9 individuals managing at least one score, there are certainly some positives to take from this match.

Scorers: B Murray (0-3) C O'Neill (0-3) C Thompson (1-0) P Donnelly (0-2) P McKeever (0-1) F Nugent (0-1) O Carragher (0-1) K Toner (0-1) B Nugent (0-1)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on September 04, 2011, 09:23:12 PM
Good report Tac.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 04, 2011, 11:07:37 PM
Quote from: Orior on September 04, 2011, 09:23:12 PM
Good report Tac.

il second that. agree with you on all the big calls against you aswell. tasker's was a point and the penalty looked a clean tackle (however i am patiently waiting the highlights to be posted up on youtube by armaghtv for confirmation).

we could argue about the 45 towards the end of the first half which didn't go out of play. tasker went on to convert the 45. so that decision sort of cancels out tasker's "point that wasn't".

however, we have had more than our fair share of gripes with refereeing performances in the past so its good to be on the right side of decisions for a change.

hard luck st.pat's. the nucleas of a good team there and if you can keep that together i'm sure they will be a force in the coming years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 05, 2011, 12:01:13 AM
Quote from: pearseog on September 04, 2011, 11:07:37 PM
Quote from: Orior on September 04, 2011, 09:23:12 PM
Good report Tac.

il second that. agree with you on all the big calls against you aswell. tasker's was a point and the penalty looked a clean tackle (however i am patiently waiting the highlights to be posted up on youtube by armaghtv for confirmation).

we could argue about the 45 towards the end of the first half which didn't go out of play. tasker went on to convert the 45. so that decision sort of cancels out tasker's "point that wasn't".

however, we have had more than our fair share of gripes with refereeing performances in the past so its good to be on the right side of decisions for a change.

hard luck st.pat's. the nucleas of a good team there and if you can keep that together i'm sure they will be a force in the coming years.

Well that's a fair point with regards to the 45. To my mind the penalty was still the defining moment in the match. For whatever reason our lads threw in the towel after the goal but until that decision there was only a point between the teams.

Ogs looked a decent side in any event. A bit of improvement left to make to match Cross but certainly they have reason to be hopeful.
Title: Madden 50K Cycle
Post by: armagh leg-end on September 05, 2011, 12:38:49 PM
Madden 50K Cycle will take place on SATURDAY 10TH SEPTEMBER at 4pm leaving from the Community Centre.

Entry is £20 per person and a huge turnout is expected.

Refreshments will be served afterwards.

Any enquiries contact BJ on 07795631883. All proceeds to Madden Youth.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: OverThePostsAWide on September 05, 2011, 01:09:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 09:33:24 PM
That's a serious kicking!! scored as many goals as Harps. Cross looking unstoppable again

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 11:37:55 PM
Ulster Champions again I'd say. Great team and they lay down the marker for the rest

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good one Milltown Row. Aye, Cross will buy into that alright ;)

Did somebody leave the lid off your marker and let it dry up after Moneyglass (+22) and St Brigid's (+10)?  ::)

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 05, 2011, 04:59:03 PM
Cullyhanna have now been deprived of championship progress two years in succession due to poor refereeing decisions. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 05, 2011, 08:57:14 PM
Half time

Nab 1 - 3
Clans 0 - 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on September 05, 2011, 09:47:57 PM
B'nab must have won....

Semi Final Draw is

Cross v Ogs

G'More v B'Nab
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: KIDDO 4 on September 05, 2011, 10:01:09 PM
Ballymacnab 4.12  Clann na Gael 0.4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 05, 2011, 11:18:40 PM
A big win from the nab, still can't work out if the nab were good or clans were shite on the nite. An awful night for football
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 05, 2011, 11:20:45 PM
QuoteB'nab must have won....

you could say that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: umgolaarmagh on September 06, 2011, 03:05:38 AM
whose managing the nab?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 06, 2011, 07:32:06 AM
Seamus Loughran, a local man
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cold tea on September 06, 2011, 12:02:48 PM
Any dates / venues for the semis?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2011, 12:38:48 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on September 05, 2011, 01:09:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 09:33:24 PM
That's a serious kicking!! scored as many goals as Harps. Cross looking unstoppable again

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 11:37:55 PM
Ulster Champions again I'd say. Great team and they lay down the marker for the rest

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good one Milltown Row. Aye, Cross will buy into that alright ;)

Did somebody leave the lid off your marker and let it dry up after Moneyglass (+22) and St Brigid's (+10)?  ::)

Whats changed in the year? Cross hammered us last year and seemed to be getting better. If we are lucky enough to beat Lamhs and play Cross at Casement i don't think there would be a major advantage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 06, 2011, 01:06:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2011, 12:38:48 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on September 05, 2011, 01:09:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 09:33:24 PM
That's a serious kicking!! scored as many goals as Harps. Cross looking unstoppable again

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 11:37:55 PM
Ulster Champions again I'd say. Great team and they lay down the marker for the rest

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good one Milltown Row. Aye, Cross will buy into that alright ;)

Did somebody leave the lid off your marker and let it dry up after Moneyglass (+22) and St Brigid's (+10)?  ::)

Whats changed in the year? Cross hammered us last year and seemed to be getting better. If we are lucky enough to beat Lamhs and play Cross at Casement i don't think there would be a major advantage.

A bit early for the cute hoorism is it not, even I wouldn't start this early ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2011, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 06, 2011, 01:06:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2011, 12:38:48 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on September 05, 2011, 01:09:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 09:33:24 PM
That's a serious kicking!! scored as many goals as Harps. Cross looking unstoppable again

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 11:37:55 PM
Ulster Champions again I'd say. Great team and they lay down the marker for the rest

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good one Milltown Row. Aye, Cross will buy into that alright ;)

Did somebody leave the lid off your marker and let it dry up after Moneyglass (+22) and St Brigid's (+10)?  ::)

Whats changed in the year? Cross hammered us last year and seemed to be getting better. If we are lucky enough to beat Lamhs and play Cross at Casement i don't think there would be a major advantage.

A bit early for the cute hoorism is it not, even I wouldn't start this early ;D

Aye I suppose, but strike early I say (when the refs not looking of course ;)) But really it's what a lot of people are saying in fairness. and what the bookies predict.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 06, 2011, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2011, 01:13:01 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 06, 2011, 01:06:57 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 06, 2011, 12:38:48 PM
Quote from: OverThePostsAWide on September 05, 2011, 01:09:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 09:33:24 PM
That's a serious kicking!! scored as many goals as Harps. Cross looking unstoppable again

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2011, 11:37:55 PM
Ulster Champions again I'd say. Great team and they lay down the marker for the rest

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Good one Milltown Row. Aye, Cross will buy into that alright ;)

Did somebody leave the lid off your marker and let it dry up after Moneyglass (+22) and St Brigid's (+10)?  ::)

Whats changed in the year? Cross hammered us last year and seemed to be getting better. If we are lucky enough to beat Lamhs and play Cross at Casement i don't think there would be a major advantage.

A bit early for the cute hoorism is it not, even I wouldn't start this early ;D

Aye I suppose, but strike early I say (when the refs not looking of course ;)) But really it's what a lot of people are saying in fairness. and what the bookies predict.

Bookies, smookies, still have to beat the Ogs and that will not be easy and then beat the winners of teh Nab and Granemore who will have nothing to lose.  2 tough games for us yet so I'll keep my money where it is.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 06, 2011, 09:31:34 PM
Division 1 ACL

Cross 2-13 Culloville 2-9.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 06, 2011, 10:15:15 PM
QuoteCross 2-13 Culloville 2-9.

Nice to see the neighbours giving yez a competitive game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 07, 2011, 11:59:58 AM
They always do.

They were the only team to beat us in league or championship in 2010 and they dont let us forget it. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 07, 2011, 04:31:43 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 07, 2011, 11:59:58 AM
They always do.

They were the only team to beat us in league or championship in 2010 and they dont let us forget it. :)

Thats is Tony and John scratching each others backs ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 08, 2011, 09:19:58 AM
Armagh SFC Semi Finals Dates and Times Morgan Athletic grounds, Armagh

Sat 24-09-11

Ballymacnab v Granemore @ 7pm

Sun 25-09-11

Crossmaglen v Pearse Ogs @ 6pm

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 08, 2011, 06:09:05 PM
pity its not a double header. would have been a great opportunity to draw a massive crowd to the Athletic Grounds for these 2 matches.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 08, 2011, 06:49:54 PM
Quote from: pearseog on September 08, 2011, 06:09:05 PM
pity its not a double header. would have been a great opportunity to draw a massive crowd to the Athletic Grounds for these 2 matches.

Aye but only one admission fee  ::)

The amount of Championship matches that have taken place at the Athletic Grounds this year is completely ridiculous. Am I right in thinking that every match bar the Granemore v Newtown tie has been at HQ. Why is the Morgan Athletic Grounds the only venue deemed suitable to host matches? Or have I just answered my own question?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 08, 2011, 08:33:38 PM
They have to get it paid for some time, they will want every game going
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 09, 2011, 01:51:09 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 08, 2011, 06:49:54 PM
The amount of Championship matches that have taken place at the Athletic Grounds this year is completely ridiculous. Am I right in thinking that every match bar the Granemore v Newtown tie has been at HQ. Why is the Morgan Athletic Grounds the only venue deemed suitable to host matches? Or have I just answered my own question?

FFS we cried looking the Athletic Grounds completed for years.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: IVEDECIDED on September 10, 2011, 12:19:28 AM
I agree, it makes sense to have all matches at "Headquarters" its the way it should be and means its the same setting for everyone.

Are you raging that every quarter, semi and final are held in Croke Park every year????
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on September 10, 2011, 01:48:16 AM
Quote from: IVEDECIDED on September 10, 2011, 12:19:28 AM
I agree, it makes sense to have all matches at "Headquarters" its the way it should be and means its the same setting for everyone.

Are you raging that every quarter, semi and final are held in Croke Park every year????

It also seems to be getting bigger crowds to matches. On saying that there have been a lot of games at all levels there recently. The pitch could do with a rest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: onefaircounty on September 11, 2011, 03:07:05 AM
A double header would have drawn one of the biggest crowds for an Armagh club round in years.

The fact that you can charge a couple pound dearer, the difference in profits wouldn't have been huge - worth it for a much bigger house and occassion on the one day.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 11, 2011, 09:06:10 AM
From a neutral's point of view most of thr county would love to see the og's beating cross.there dominance does not help our clubs developement at all.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 11, 2011, 04:08:09 PM
Quote from: naka on September 11, 2011, 09:06:10 AM
From a neutral's point of view most of thr county would love to see the og's beating cross.there dominance does not help our clubs developement at all.

Which club is yours.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 11, 2011, 10:16:56 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 11, 2011, 04:08:09 PM
Quote from: naka on September 11, 2011, 09:06:10 AM
From a neutral's point of view most of thr county would love to see the og's beating cross.there dominance does not help our clubs developement at all.

Which club is yours.?
crossfire
the word "our" was generic I mean the county as a whole
i am a cruppen man but cross domination is helping no-one outside of your own club
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 11, 2011, 11:24:16 PM
Quote from: naka on September 11, 2011, 10:16:56 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 11, 2011, 04:08:09 PM
Quote from: naka on September 11, 2011, 09:06:10 AM
From a neutral's point of view most of thr county would love to see the og's beating cross.there dominance does not help our clubs developement at all.

Which club is yours.?
crossfire
the word "our" was generic I mean the county as a whole
i am a cruppen man but cross domination is helping no-one outside of your own club

That's a load of shite naka and is a loser's lazy excuse. If a club team can't motivate themselves to beat us then that is actually a very bad indictment on them. Instead of using it as a crutch clubs should use the example of the Ogs and push on. Armagh football has been stronger over the last 15 years then it ever has and it coincides with the dominance of Cross, if anything I would actually say that our success has raised the bar for other clubs meaning that the likes od Ogs, Dromintee and to a lesser extent Harps and St Pats have improved beyond where they would have been which has had a direct positive impact on Armagh football
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 12, 2011, 09:57:07 AM
Oh! I get it! So if/when Cross ever become shite, can teams use that as an excuse? ;)

For what it is worth Cross may be slightly frustrated with the draw, two Div II teams to see them into the semi's, I'm sure they'd have preferred to have been tested earlier on. Still huge favs though. Only team in their way is St Gall's IMO.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 12, 2011, 01:44:25 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 11, 2011, 11:24:16 PM
Quote from: naka on September 11, 2011, 10:16:56 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 11, 2011, 04:08:09 PM
Quote from: naka on September 11, 2011, 09:06:10 AM
From a neutral's point of view most of thr county would love to see the og's beating cross.there dominance does not help our clubs developement at all.

Which club is yours.?
crossfire
the word "our" was generic I mean the county as a whole
i am a cruppen man but cross domination is helping no-one outside of your own club

That's a load of shite naka and is a loser's lazy excuse. If a club team can't motivate themselves to beat us then that is actually a very bad indictment on them. Instead of using it as a crutch clubs should use the example of the Ogs and push on. Armagh football has been stronger over the last 15 years then it ever has and it coincides with the dominance of Cross, if anything I would actually say that our success has raised the bar for other clubs meaning that the likes od Ogs, Dromintee and to a lesser extent Harps and St Pats have improved beyond where they would have been which has had a direct positive impact on Armagh football
for what its worth I disagree with this, armagh football isnt strong at all, cross are dominant but every one else is much the same level,
the league and championship is like the spl only in armagh we have one team whilst in the spl there are 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on September 13, 2011, 08:52:06 AM
Quote from: naka on September 12, 2011, 01:44:25 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 11, 2011, 11:24:16 PM
Quote from: naka on September 11, 2011, 10:16:56 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 11, 2011, 04:08:09 PM
Quote from: naka on September 11, 2011, 09:06:10 AM
From a neutral's point of view most of thr county would love to see the og's beating cross.there dominance does not help our clubs developement at all.

Which club is yours.?
crossfire
the word "our" was generic I mean the county as a whole
i am a cruppen man but cross domination is helping no-one outside of your own club

That's a load of shite naka and is a loser's lazy excuse. If a club team can't motivate themselves to beat us then that is actually a very bad indictment on them. Instead of using it as a crutch clubs should use the example of the Ogs and push on. Armagh football has been stronger over the last 15 years then it ever has and it coincides with the dominance of Cross, if anything I would actually say that our success has raised the bar for other clubs meaning that the likes od Ogs, Dromintee and to a lesser extent Harps and St Pats have improved beyond where they would have been which has had a direct positive impact on Armagh football
for what its worth I disagree with this, armagh football isnt strong at all, cross are dominant but every one else is much the same level,
the league and championship is like the spl only in armagh we have one team whilst in the spl there are 2
The tone of this debate implies that this somehow is the fault of Crossmaglen. Surely with all the work put into development squads and the improvements in coaching standards other teams should be closing the gap, if not then they need to look to themselves. I'm not from Cross but I sense the club means everything to people from the town, with the exception of Joey Cunningham who is not a Cross native but from Forkhill I can't think of any player going to other codes. I think Cross have set the bar other Clubs need to work harder on their sense of community, parish and putting Gaelic Games first in the minds of all their members.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 23, 2011, 04:20:55 PM
Jaysus lads, County semi final weekend and not Dickiebird, times have changed.

I think Granemore will shade the derby match but it will be very close

The Ogs have it all to do, I would like to see them do it but I think they are just a bit light for this cross team, I hear Tommy Turley is out so that is a blow. Also an Ogs team without Ronan playing the All-Ireland champs is a step too far imho.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 24, 2011, 09:34:32 AM
Agree that Cross are huge favourites, but looking at it they have had (for them) an easy route so far to get where they are - two Division II teams, not really tested in championship football this year.

Ogs on the other hand have disposed of two of the top teams in the county in Dromintee and St Pat's. I wouldn't say anything is set in stone here, saw Ogs v Dromintee and was impressed, granted they're missing players but they'll still give Cross a game, they'll have to play out of their skins to get anything out of it, I reckon they'll not be too far away and might even sneak it.

In the other game I fancy Granemore, both teams have good forward lines so should be a good game. Granemore's two matches in the competition will stand by them, while on the other hand I can't imagine the Nab having learnt much from their QF with Clans. Fancy Granemore to sneak into the final by 1-2 pts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 24, 2011, 04:46:23 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on September 24, 2011, 09:34:32 AM
Agree that Cross are huge favourites, but looking at it they have had (for them) an easy route so far to get where they are - two Division II teams, not really tested in championship football this year.

Ogs on the other hand have disposed of two of the top teams in the county in Dromintee and St Pat's. I wouldn't say anything is set in stone here, saw Ogs v Dromintee and was impressed, granted they're missing players but they'll still give Cross a game, they'll have to play out of their skins to get anything out of it, I reckon they'll not be too far away and might even sneak it.

In the other game I fancy Granemore, both teams have good forward lines so should be a good game. Granemore's two matches in the competition will stand by them, while on the other hand I can't imagine the Nab having learnt much from their QF with Clans. Fancy Granemore to sneak into the final by 1-2 pts.

Honestly? Bookies have them at -5 to win the match.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Shortso79 on September 25, 2011, 12:13:33 PM
Result from last Night

Ballymacnab 2-11 Granemore 0-11

Anyone at the match ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 25, 2011, 02:01:17 PM
Quote from: Shortso79 on September 25, 2011, 12:13:33 PM
Result from last Night

Ballymacnab 2-11 Granemore 0-11

Anyone at the match ?

A good second half display from Ballymacnab, well apart from the first ten minutes where they were 4 points down. The Ballymacnab full forward line was very dangerous. They seemed to win every ball that was put into them.

Grugans pass for the first goal was brilliant. Cut the defence right open.

The game was surprisingly clean given the rivalry. Fair play to Ballymacnab they were the better team on the night and fully deserved their victory
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ExcellentDriver on September 25, 2011, 05:19:52 PM
btw, I went to Uni with a fella from Ballymacnab. He's now working in Dublin. I also know the Mum of a few Ballymacnab Camogie Players.

Doubt they'd beat Cross, but who knows?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 06:20:02 PM
Any updates on the game lads?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on September 25, 2011, 06:26:18 PM
4-2 to Cross after 16 mins (BBC twitter).

Great win last night for the Nab. Hungrier team won. Felt after the first goal went in G'more heads dropped.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 25, 2011, 06:38:16 PM
Keep the updates coming fitzy!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on September 25, 2011, 06:43:14 PM
Cross 0-7 Ogs 0-4 at half-time
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on September 25, 2011, 07:02:32 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on September 25, 2011, 06:58:01 PM
Pearse Og had a penalty in the first 2 mins but it was poorly struck. 2nd half just started and there is a lot of off the ball stuff happening from both sides. Cross leading 7-5 with 36 mins gone.

What's that mean? surely not. Not the form of Cross so Pearse Og's should be kicked out ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 25, 2011, 09:44:24 PM
Scrappy enough game and the ref liked his whistle at times. Hearty denied Ogs in the penalty and at the start of the second half, without a goal they were on the back foot throughout.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on September 25, 2011, 09:53:16 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on September 25, 2011, 02:01:17 PM
Quote from: Shortso79 on September 25, 2011, 12:13:33 PM
Result from last Night

Ballymacnab 2-11 Granemore 0-11

Anyone at the match ?

A good second half display from Ballymacnab, well apart from the first ten minutes where they were 4 points down. The Ballymacnab full forward line was very dangerous. They seemed to win every ball that was put into them.

Grugans pass for the first goal was brilliant. Cut the defence right open.

The game was surprisingly clean given the rivalry. Fair play to Ballymacnab they were the better team on the night and fully deserved their victory


Granemore were the better team for 50 mins of the but to many boys didn't perform on the night for them with only 3 standing out for them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on September 25, 2011, 10:42:01 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on September 25, 2011, 10:08:14 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 25, 2011, 09:44:24 PM
Scrappy enough game and the ref liked his whistle at times. Hearty denied Ogs in the penalty and at the start of the second half, without a goal they were on the back foot throughout.
The referee I thought was brutal. He gave the early penalty to Pearse Óg while he was in the centre of the field and in the second half he made what I saw was at least two calls in favour of Crossmaglen that shouldn't have been, one was for a Pearse Óg forward lifting the ball off the ground when (a) he didn't, and (b) he wouldn't have been able to see it but still called it, while late in the game a Cross player got a free for falling down on the ground when no one touched him and lifted the ball with his knees which meant the free should have been the other way. Not sure of his name, but if he's one of the better refs in Armagh I'd be worried to think what those not at the top are like.

My first time visiting the Athletic Grounds this evening and I have to say it is a nice, tidy set up but two things struck me. One was that the pitch was notably smaller than normal for an intercounty ground, especially its width. Another was that standing on the covered terrace opposite the main stand, the gap between the sideline and the fence is very small and ripe for a player to get easily injured especially that next to the grass is only a raised concrete slab and metal fencing which could be easily hit if a player slid out over or their momentum carried them to collide with it.

refs in armagh are just can't wait to give cross frees. that was a laughable decision. interestingly after the game he just sprinted straight down the tunnel. fast as he ran all night!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on September 26, 2011, 12:08:23 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on September 25, 2011, 10:08:14 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 25, 2011, 09:44:24 PM
Scrappy enough game and the ref liked his whistle at times. Hearty denied Ogs in the penalty and at the start of the second half, without a goal they were on the back foot throughout.
The referee I thought was brutal. He gave the early penalty to Pearse Óg while he was in the centre of the field and in the second half he made what I saw was at least two calls in favour of Crossmaglen that shouldn't have been, one was for a Pearse Óg forward lifting the ball off the ground when (a) he didn't, and (b) he wouldn't have been able to see it but still called it, while late in the game a Cross player got a free for falling down on the ground when no one touched him and lifted the ball with his knees which meant the free should have been the other way. Not sure of his name, but if he's one of the better refs in Armagh I'd be worried to think what those not at the top are like.

My first time visiting the Athletic Grounds this evening and I have to say it is a nice, tidy set up but two things struck me. One was that the pitch was notably smaller than normal for an intercounty ground, especially its width. Another was that standing on the covered terrace opposite the main stand, the gap between the sideline and the fence is very small and ripe for a player to get easily injured especially that next to the grass is only a raised concrete slab and metal fencing which could be easily hit if a player slid out over or their momentum carried them to collide with it.

Seemingly Down thought this before the championship match earlier in the year and had it measured only to find it was bigger than the Marshes!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 26, 2011, 12:23:22 AM
QuoteJust read that the pitch dimensions are 143m x 88m, it certainly doesn't look that big in the ground itself. Healy Park is 142m x 86m,

Ha. Ours is bigger than yours.

But there certainly isn't much space along the sideline.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 26, 2011, 10:30:55 AM
Quote from: pearseog on September 25, 2011, 10:42:01 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on September 25, 2011, 10:08:14 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 25, 2011, 09:44:24 PM
Scrappy enough game and the ref liked his whistle at times. Hearty denied Ogs in the penalty and at the start of the second half, without a goal they were on the back foot throughout.
The referee I thought was brutal. He gave the early penalty to Pearse Óg while he was in the centre of the field and in the second half he made what I saw was at least two calls in favour of Crossmaglen that shouldn't have been, one was for a Pearse Óg forward lifting the ball off the ground when (a) he didn't, and (b) he wouldn't have been able to see it but still called it, while late in the game a Cross player got a free for falling down on the ground when no one touched him and lifted the ball with his knees which meant the free should have been the other way. Not sure of his name, but if he's one of the better refs in Armagh I'd be worried to think what those not at the top are like.

My first time visiting the Athletic Grounds this evening and I have to say it is a nice, tidy set up but two things struck me. One was that the pitch was notably smaller than normal for an intercounty ground, especially its width. Another was that standing on the covered terrace opposite the main stand, the gap between the sideline and the fence is very small and ripe for a player to get easily injured especially that next to the grass is only a raised concrete slab and metal fencing which could be easily hit if a player slid out over or their momentum carried them to collide with it.

refs in armagh are just can't wait to give cross frees. that was a laughable decision. interestingly after the game he just sprinted straight down the tunnel. fast as he ran all night!

Are you saying that the Ref cost Ogs the game./
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 26, 2011, 11:16:30 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 26, 2011, 10:30:55 AM
Are you saying that the Ref cost Ogs the game./

Hardly.  The Ogs didn't take their chances, Cross did. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 26, 2011, 11:59:31 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 26, 2011, 10:30:55 AM
Quote from: pearseog on September 25, 2011, 10:42:01 PM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on September 25, 2011, 10:08:14 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 25, 2011, 09:44:24 PM
Scrappy enough game and the ref liked his whistle at times. Hearty denied Ogs in the penalty and at the start of the second half, without a goal they were on the back foot throughout.
The referee I thought was brutal. He gave the early penalty to Pearse Óg while he was in the centre of the field and in the second half he made what I saw was at least two calls in favour of Crossmaglen that shouldn't have been, one was for a Pearse Óg forward lifting the ball off the ground when (a) he didn't, and (b) he wouldn't have been able to see it but still called it, while late in the game a Cross player got a free for falling down on the ground when no one touched him and lifted the ball with his knees which meant the free should have been the other way. Not sure of his name, but if he's one of the better refs in Armagh I'd be worried to think what those not at the top are like.

My first time visiting the Athletic Grounds this evening and I have to say it is a nice, tidy set up but two things struck me. One was that the pitch was notably smaller than normal for an intercounty ground, especially its width. Another was that standing on the covered terrace opposite the main stand, the gap between the sideline and the fence is very small and ripe for a player to get easily injured especially that next to the grass is only a raised concrete slab and metal fencing which could be easily hit if a player slid out over or their momentum carried them to collide with it.

refs in armagh are just can't wait to give cross frees. that was a laughable decision. interestingly after the game he just sprinted straight down the tunnel. fast as he ran all night!

Are you saying that the Ref cost Ogs the game./

The ref never cost the Ogs the game... they're just saying that he was bad and it suits Cross when they get in front to have a stop start game. They have perfected this art over the years. Go a few points up and then kill the game by lying down at every opportunity, starting a few off the ball incidents and picking up a point here and there to keep the margin of 3/4 points. Don't get me wrong, if the shoe was on the other foot I would take it to get to a county final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Radda bout yeee on September 26, 2011, 12:39:19 PM
Heard very sad news today that the former Armagh stalwart and former player and manager of my own club Kieran McGurk died suddenly! The General was a legend! Sympathy to all his family!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 26, 2011, 12:49:35 PM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on September 26, 2011, 12:39:19 PM
Heard very sad news today that the former Armagh stalwart and former player and manager of my own club Kieran McGurk died suddenly! The General was a legend! Sympathy to all his family!!!

That's dreadful, he wouldn't have been too old.  A true great in Armagh football and the master penalty taker.  RIP
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 26, 2011, 12:56:10 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 26, 2011, 12:49:35 PM
Quote from: Radda bout yeee on September 26, 2011, 12:39:19 PM
Heard very sad news today that the former Armagh stalwart and former player and manager of my own club Kieran McGurk died suddenly! The General was a legend! Sympathy to all his family!!!

That's dreadful, he wouldn't have been too old.  A true great in Armagh football and the master penalty taker.  RIP

Ah no... that's sad to hear. Some footballer... them penalties were top drawer. RIP
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: twotwocharlie on September 26, 2011, 05:31:01 PM
very sad news about Kieran McGurk.
may he rest in peace
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 26, 2011, 07:17:04 PM
Very sad.

RIP Kieran.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 27, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D

Granemore were at full strength
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: regal on September 28, 2011, 11:23:12 AM
Does anyone know if Ronan Clarke was involved against Cross, was he a sub or did he do the warm up??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on September 28, 2011, 04:56:26 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D

Granemore were at full strength

They weren't
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cold tea on September 28, 2011, 07:02:32 PM
Quote from: regal on September 28, 2011, 11:23:12 AM
Does anyone know if Ronan Clarke was involved against Cross, was he a sub or did he do the warm up??

Doubt Ronan will play again, pity - great talent.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 28, 2011, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D

Granemore were at full strength

Who were granemore missing then?? Lets get the excuses out of the road now!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 28, 2011, 08:30:23 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on September 28, 2011, 04:56:26 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D

Granemore were at full strength

They weren't


Who was missing?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 28, 2011, 09:01:13 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D

Lads i was only joking.

Granemore sent their seconds to Cross for a league game two weeks before the Nab game and it looks as if it backfired on them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on September 28, 2011, 09:52:18 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 28, 2011, 09:01:13 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D

Lads i was only joking.

Granemore sent their seconds to Cross for a league game two weeks before the Nab game and it looks as if it backfired on them.

Your a tool!

It was a week before the Maghery game keep up!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on September 28, 2011, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 28, 2011, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D

Granemore were at full strength

Who were granemore missing then?? Lets get the excuses out of the road now!

Shane Rafferty, Barry Toner, Kieran Toner was injured and he still won midfield, Darran Carr, Rory McCelland and Kieran Doyle.
Use boys need to think of new chants for the Cross game. F**king tramps!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 28, 2011, 11:53:54 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on September 28, 2011, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 28, 2011, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D

Granemore were at full strength

Who were granemore missing then?? Lets get the excuses out of the road now!

Shane Rafferty, Barry Toner, Kieran Toner was injured and he still won midfield, Darran Carr, Rory McCelland and Kieran Doyle.
Use boys need to think of new chants for the Cross game. F**king tramps!


Not agin the nab
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 29, 2011, 02:40:49 AM
Quote from: Armaghgael on September 28, 2011, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 28, 2011, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D

Granemore were at full strength

Who were granemore missing then?? Lets get the excuses out of the road now!

Shane Rafferty, Barry Toner, Kieran Toner was injured and he still won midfield, Darran Carr, Rory McCelland and Kieran Doyle.
Use boys need to think of new chants for the Cross game. F**king tramps!

Use boys need to learn how to spell. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 29, 2011, 11:34:47 AM
Quote from: Armaghgael on September 28, 2011, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 28, 2011, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D

Granemore were at full strength

Who were granemore missing then?? Lets get the excuses out of the road now!

Shane Rafferty, Barry Toner, Kieran Toner was injured and he still won midfield, Darran Carr, Rory McCelland and Kieran Doyle.
Use boys need to think of new chants for the Cross game. F**king tramps!
Explain !!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 29, 2011, 11:38:34 AM
Quote from: Armaghgael on September 28, 2011, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 28, 2011, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D

Granemore were at full strength

Who were granemore missing then?? Lets get the excuses out of the road now!

Shane Rafferty, Barry Toner, Kieran Toner was injured and he still won midfield, Darran Carr, Rory McCelland and Kieran Doyle.
Use boys need to think of new chants for the Cross game. F**king tramps!


Explain.!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on September 29, 2011, 04:12:08 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 28, 2011, 11:53:54 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on September 28, 2011, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 28, 2011, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D

Granemore were at full strength

Who were granemore missing then?? Lets get the excuses out of the road now!

Shane Rafferty, Barry Toner, Kieran Toner was injured and he still won midfield, Darran Carr, Rory McCelland and Kieran Doyle.
Use boys need to think of new chants for the Cross game. F**king tramps!


Not agin the nab


Theirs a lot you don't know
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on September 29, 2011, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 29, 2011, 11:38:34 AM
Quote from: Armaghgael on September 28, 2011, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 28, 2011, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D

Granemore were at full strength

Who were granemore missing then?? Lets get the excuses out of the road now!

Shane Rafferty, Barry Toner, Kieran Toner was injured and he still won midfield, Darran Carr, Rory McCelland and Kieran Doyle.
Use boys need to think of new chants for the Cross game. F**king tramps!


Explain.!!


They thought they would be funny after the game and started singing "Easy" etc. Even Cross fans don't do that no offence
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on September 29, 2011, 05:29:04 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on September 29, 2011, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 29, 2011, 11:38:34 AM
Quote from: Armaghgael on September 28, 2011, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 28, 2011, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D

Granemore were at full strength

Who were granemore missing then?? Lets get the excuses out of the road now!

Shane Rafferty, Barry Toner, Kieran Toner was injured and he still won midfield, Darran Carr, Rory McCelland and Kieran Doyle.
Use boys need to think of new chants for the Cross game. F**king tramps!


Explain.!!


They thought they would be funny after the game and started singing "Easy" etc. Even Cross fans don't do that no offence

I heard this and I must say I was surprised and disappointed.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on September 29, 2011, 05:55:14 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on September 29, 2011, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: crossfire on September 29, 2011, 11:38:34 AM
Quote from: Armaghgael on September 28, 2011, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 28, 2011, 08:00:02 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 27, 2011, 09:00:51 AM
Quote from: crossfire on September 27, 2011, 12:34:08 AM
I didn't get to the 'Nab game on saturday night but based on the final score it looks as if Granemore fielded their second team again. :D ;D

Granemore were at full strength

Who were granemore missing then?? Lets get the excuses out of the road now!

Shane Rafferty, Barry Toner, Kieran Toner was injured and he still won midfield, Darran Carr, Rory McCelland and Kieran Doyle.
Use boys need to think of new chants for the Cross game. F**king tramps!


Explain.!!


They thought they would be funny after the game and started singing "Easy" etc. Even Cross fans don't do that no offence

Jaysus, if thats all that was shouted
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 29, 2011, 08:29:47 PM
Armagh Gael ffs keep ur hair on, there was a bunch of children shouting. can't believe the excuses have started, missing this one and that one. The nab were missing a few players as well.
Hardly warrants calling people tramps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on September 29, 2011, 09:08:09 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 29, 2011, 08:29:47 PM
Armagh Gael ffs keep ur hair on, there was a bunch of children shouting. can't believe the excuses have started, missing this one and that one. The nab were missing a few players as well.
Hardly warrants calling people tramps

Can you explain the supporters that waited until Granemore were walking off and lent over the tunnel and some players tramps? Suppose that was children?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 29, 2011, 09:35:46 PM
Don't flatter urself AG, noone was waiting on granemore walking off the field, everyone was waiting on the nab players coming off. what a bundle of sore losers, yapping about the crowd shouting and players missing, I've heard it all now!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on September 29, 2011, 09:38:15 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 29, 2011, 09:35:46 PM
Don't flatter urself AG, noone was waiting on granemore walking off the field, everyone was waiting on the nab players coming off. what a bundle of sore losers, yapping about the crowd shouting and players missing, I've heard it all now!
So some players are lien now?? ::) ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 29, 2011, 09:49:54 PM
AG, the nab players were in a huddle in the middle of the field and everyone waited for them to break and come towards the stand to head for the changing rooms (which is under the stand, through the tunnel) noone waited for the granemore players, everyone was waiting on the nab players. So dry ur eyes and move on. talk about sore losers!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on September 29, 2011, 10:12:38 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 29, 2011, 09:49:54 PM
AG, the nab players were in a huddle in the middle of the field and everyone waited for them to break and come towards the stand to head for the changing rooms (which is under the stand, through the tunnel) noone waited for the granemore players, everyone was waiting on the nab players. So dry ur eyes and move on. talk about sore losers!

They may have been waiting for the Nab players but some uncalled for words were directed at players leaving the pitch
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on September 29, 2011, 10:21:28 PM
Hi AG dry your eyes, people in the nab have been slatted by gramemore supporters and players  ever since the 2 league  defeats, what about "7 heaven" in the observer the week after game in the nab, u hypocrite!! At the end of the day the only problem that u have is that u and all your other supporters and players thought u were in a county final, u didn't even have to worry about the nab but how badly u were mistaken! U were beaten by the better team and don't even try to make excuses about players missing and injured, the nab also had men injured and players in different countries more men missing than u boys so do yourself a big favor and stop moaning and just admit that u aren't good enough!! Good lad
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 29, 2011, 10:25:07 PM
Not sure how many was at the game AG but if someone said something to one of the players, big deal, it's hardly cause to tar all the supporters with the 'tramps' brush
I have heard plenty of abuse from granemore supporters, management and mentors over the years. It was never anything that I lost any sleep over and espeically wouldn't be banging on about it a week later.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 29, 2011, 10:48:49 PM
Where else would you get it only from granemore! missing this and that, yea yea... every team in the country is missing players, granemore is just another! accept the defeat and admit the best team won?! Well??

Im sure you would have gave all those league points for that win the other night, so sweet!!  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on September 29, 2011, 10:54:06 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 29, 2011, 10:48:49 PM
Where else would you get it only from granemore! missing this and that, yea yea... every team in the country is missing players, granemore is just another! accept the defeat and admit the best team won?! Well??

Im sure you would have gave all those league points for that win the other night, so sweet!!  ;)

Its okay boys 4th time you have beat us in 18 games. Its just a pity we didn't bring on or start the "King Of the Parish" as we all know he beats yous on his own
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on September 29, 2011, 10:58:03 PM
Yeah AG wind ur neck in;-)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on September 29, 2011, 10:59:31 PM
Quote from: Maroon1 on September 29, 2011, 10:58:03 PM
Yeah AG wind ur neck in;-)

Sore spot?? :D :D Course it is
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 29, 2011, 11:03:50 PM
As i said you can talk all the league points... the only sore spot this weekend was in granemore!  :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 29, 2011, 11:07:54 PM
AG you know as well as everyone who watches or plays Gaelic football, it's championship that's important, the league is merely a warm up to championship, it always has been and always will be. Yous bottled it, can't blame referee, players not being available, the pitch wasn't right, the lights were too bright, the crowd were shouting stuff at our players. The fact of the matter is you didn't win when it counted. I was actually looking forward to seeing the 'king of the parish' come, he must have shit himself too on the big occasion
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on September 29, 2011, 11:08:07 PM
Quote from: downtown on September 29, 2011, 11:03:50 PM
As i said you can talk all the league points... the only sore spot this weekend was in granemore!  :D


We were quite happy thanks.

A lot of people undermine Clady folk 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on September 29, 2011, 11:15:39 PM
I can't believe a Granemore person is giving out about abuse from fans. You are probably worse than the Clans.   :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on September 29, 2011, 11:35:52 PM
Oh poor AG, u mean the self proclaimed king of the parish, so why did they not bring him on, shitty pants  time or maybe he was injured aswell;-)u really are one pathetic loser and pretty stupid aswell, nab not beat u losers in granemore last year? Ok u beat us 3 on the trot whoppy do but guess what u losers have lost 3 county semi-finals on the trot, I rest my case, granemore just don't have what it takes!! The nab r a championship team, we beat u in the biggest game of all..yerrooo;-) so please stick ur league points, all 4 of them, where the sun don't shine!! Ballymacnab for the Armagh senior final, granemore and the hare for Micky mouse!! Enjoy the rest of ur year supporting us!!;-)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 29, 2011, 11:55:15 PM
QuoteEnjoy the rest of ur year supporting us!!;-)

If your season extends more than another couple of weeks then we'll all support you!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 30, 2011, 10:40:54 AM
Quote from: Armaghgael on September 29, 2011, 10:12:38 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on September 29, 2011, 09:49:54 PM
AG, the nab players were in a huddle in the middle of the field and everyone waited for them to break and come towards the stand to head for the changing rooms (which is under the stand, through the tunnel) noone waited for the granemore players, everyone was waiting on the nab players. So dry ur eyes and move on. talk about sore losers!

They may have been waiting for the Nab players but some uncalled for words were directed at players leaving the pitch

Granemore have some of the worst supporters around... I had the misfortune of standing beside a family shouting abuse when they played the Ogs this year in the league in Pearse Og park and it was the worst I heard from any supporters at any game this year!! The problem with Granemore; and everyone could see it only themselves, was that they were too cocky!! They sent a b team to Cross, they thought all they had to do was turn up against the Nab and now there's yapping about players missing. Take your beating lads and prepare for next year... hopefully a bit quieter than this year!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on September 30, 2011, 11:04:34 AM
well said ogshead!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on September 30, 2011, 04:10:58 PM
Quote from: Maroon1 on September 29, 2011, 11:35:52 PM
Oh poor AG, u mean the self proclaimed king of the parish, so why did they not bring him on, shitty pants  time or maybe he was injured aswell;-)u really are one pathetic loser and pretty stupid aswell, nab not beat u losers in granemore last year? Ok u beat us 3 on the trot whoppy do but guess what u losers have lost 3 county semi-finals on the trot, I rest my case, granemore just don't have what it takes!! The nab r a championship team, we beat u in the biggest game of all..yerrooo;-) so please stick ur league points, all 4 of them, where the sun don't shine!! Ballymacnab for the Armagh senior final, granemore and the hare for Micky mouse!! Enjoy the rest of ur year supporting us!!;-)

Please! Granemore are the better club! They won more Championships in a week than use have in your history!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on September 30, 2011, 06:01:35 PM
I know its hard for you to take :o u r obviously in denial that the nab r indeed the best team in the parish  ;D and its clear from your posts that u have post traumatic stress disorder since we kicked your ass in the semi-final of the senior championship :'( but there is light at the end of the tunnel for u, u can get help with your condition and so can the granemore footballers, there is a great physcologist who deals with losers only, she has dealt with the mayo football team, fermanagh, clare and even kilkenny footballers, not sure of her name but u may want to look her up  maybe she can help your sorry crew and who knows maybe next u may make it to the final, but for this year just sit back and relax and enjoy watching your lovely neighbours in the final.

P.S. wats your address so i can go over and put a nab flag outside your house?  ;D :D 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on September 30, 2011, 08:52:50 PM
Quote from: Armaghgael on September 30, 2011, 04:10:58 PM
Quote from: Maroon1 on September 29, 2011, 11:35:52 PM
Oh poor AG, u mean the self proclaimed king of the parish, so why did they not bring him on, shitty pants  time or maybe he was injured aswell;-)u really are one pathetic loser and pretty stupid aswell, nab not beat u losers in granemore last year? Ok u beat us 3 on the trot whoppy do but guess what u losers have lost 3 county semi-finals on the trot, I rest my case, granemore just don't have what it takes!! The nab r a championship team, we beat u in the biggest game of all..yerrooo;-) so please stick ur league points, all 4 of them, where the sun don't shine!! Ballymacnab for the Armagh senior final, granemore and the hare for Micky mouse!! Enjoy the rest of ur year supporting us!!;-)

Please! Granemore are the better club! They won more Championships in a week than use have in your history!

And pearse og have more than granemore...
and harps have more than pearse og...
and cross have more than harps...

Who gives a shite about championship wins? 
The basis of the last few pages has been about one match - which was won by Ballymacnab - and for you to drag club histories into it has only been done to try and give your deflated ego some sort of massage.

The gaa is great - on any day a club can be a winner or a loser in championship (even if its against the odds) - sport also gives the club a chance to respond to the loss or win in the years that follow.

Armaghgael - if you really want i can lend you a trowel and a few bricks??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on September 30, 2011, 09:13:57 PM
Jaysus, look what i have started. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on September 30, 2011, 09:59:09 PM
the thread got kickstarted again - Spirit said it was too quiet recently - calm before the 'storm'!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on October 02, 2011, 12:28:44 PM
was in sean grahams yesterday and asked for odds for ballymacnab just out of interest. they are 6/1. to be honest i would be looking more than 6/1 to back them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 02, 2011, 03:44:55 PM
Cross by 4, I'd say you'll get a handicap bet the day before the game, Cross minus 5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 02, 2011, 05:31:53 PM
Reports on the Armagh forum suggest that a McEntee has brought a county title to a Crossmaglen address, a definite managerial blessing. Well done and hopefully the guys at the other end of the Cullaville Road will do likewise.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 03, 2011, 08:52:41 PM
Quote from: Maroon1 on September 29, 2011, 11:35:52 PM
Oh poor AG, u mean the self proclaimed king of the parish, so why did they not bring him on, shitty pants  time or maybe he was injured aswell;-)u really are one pathetic loser and pretty stupid aswell, nab not beat u losers in granemore last year? Ok u beat us 3 on the trot whoppy do but guess what u losers have lost 3 county semi-finals on the trot, I rest my case, granemore just don't have what it takes!! The nab r a championship team, we beat u in the biggest game of all..yerrooo;-) so please stick ur league points, all 4 of them, where the sun don't shine!! Ballymacnab for the Armagh senior final, granemore and the hare for Micky mouse!! Enjoy the rest of ur year supporting us!!;-)

Who is king of the parish. Was the title decided by a bare knuckle fight. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on October 04, 2011, 03:55:36 PM
def not, he couldnt beat eggs!! ;-)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on October 04, 2011, 04:57:28 PM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 04, 2011, 03:55:36 PM
def not, he couldnt beat eggs!! ;-)


But if it was declared on a fight we would still win :P :P :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on October 04, 2011, 05:39:02 PM
What drugs are u on AG? I hope u dont fight like the way u play football you bundle of assbandits, only thing ulot would be swinging would be your handbags  ;D :D :P :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on October 04, 2011, 05:42:36 PM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 04, 2011, 05:39:02 PM
What drugs are u on AG? I hope u dont fight like the way u play football you bundle of assbandits, only thing ulot would be swinging would be your handbags  ;D :D :P :P

Would ye quit :D :D :D

Were well able to handle ourselfs :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on October 05, 2011, 04:13:15 PM
Anybody hear the one about a pathetic granemore footballer and his even more pathetic uncle who live smack bang in the heart of Ballymacnab right below the football field who were caught taking down a nab flag that was flying...quite sad i know!!
f**k off back to granemore  you share of horrible wankers

 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on October 05, 2011, 05:09:26 PM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 05, 2011, 04:13:15 PM
Anybody hear the one about a pathetic granemore footballer and his even more pathetic uncle who live smack bang in the heart of Ballymacnab right below the football field who were caught taking down a nab flag that was flying...quite sad i know!!
f**k off back to granemore  you share of horrible w**kers


No call for that its only a flag Ffs and also their was no need to reveal any names!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 05, 2011, 06:29:26 PM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 05, 2011, 04:13:15 PM
Anybody hear the one about a pathetic granemore footballer and his even more pathetic uncle who live smack bang in the heart of Ballymacnab right below the football field who were caught taking down a nab flag that was flying...quite sad i know!!
f**k off back to granemore  you share of horrible w**kers



Maroon1... you only set this account up in the last week and your making a right arse out of yourself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on October 05, 2011, 07:01:38 PM
Ogshead did I ask for your opinion, u would not alot about arseholes!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 06, 2011, 12:13:45 AM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 05, 2011, 07:01:38 PM
Ogshead did I ask for your opinion, u would not alot about arseholes!

I'm just saying... you came on last week defending your club and now this week your dragging it's name through the mud with those comments. If anyone from your committee seen those comments they would be asking you to remove them. Yes, your in a county final in a week and half time but show a bit more class
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 06, 2011, 07:06:34 AM
Quote from: ogshead on October 05, 2011, 06:29:26 PM

Maroon1... you only set this account up in the last week and your making a right arse out of yourself

The only one that is paying any attention to him is Armaghgael who seems to be on his wavelength.

I don't think he'll be hanging around here too long. I'd say he'll quickly get bored of it when people stop acknowledging him.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on October 06, 2011, 09:49:15 AM
And i thought ogs lads were sound :D ;D

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DearyMe on October 06, 2011, 11:43:34 AM
Is anyone tracking the progress of St.Galls, or is it a case of getting county final out of way first?

Would Cross be confident in Belfast?
Would Nab just be delighted to win county title?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 06, 2011, 11:54:14 AM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 06, 2011, 11:43:34 AM
Is anyone tracking the progress of St.Galls, or is it a case of getting county final out of way first?

Would Cross be confident in Belfast?
Would Nab just be delighted to win county title?

I don't think anyone can look past the Final.  ST Galls have won the Antrim championship and that won't make any odds to the Armagh championship.  Cross would have a fair idea what would face them if they had to play them and would be confident that they had what it takes to beat them.  Ballymacnab, I can't comment on but I am sure they have full confidence in there own abilities.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DearyMe on October 06, 2011, 11:58:18 AM
bcb - i take it you will go for your own club  for this one!

KNow very little about Ballymcnab (excuse my ignorance) - who would they have?

Is it a surprise they got to final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 06, 2011, 12:05:20 PM
Ballymacnab are there very much on merit, they have McParland and Grugan as stand out players but they also have a group of tight working players who will have full confidence in their ability to win it.  We are obviously favourites but that will mean very little once the ball is thrown up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 07, 2011, 03:58:45 PM
AG is it true that Keiran Toner & Jason O neill are on the way to Australia for a year. Big loss for yous if true and Toner a big loss for Armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on October 07, 2011, 04:13:53 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 07, 2011, 03:58:45 PM
AG is it true that Keiran Toner & Jason O neill are on the way to Australia for a year. Big loss for yous if true and Toner a big loss for Armagh

Unfortunately it is
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Stevie Nicks on October 08, 2011, 11:03:30 AM
Quote from: Armaghgael on October 07, 2011, 04:13:53 PM
Quote from: thewanderer on October 07, 2011, 03:58:45 PM
AG is it true that Keiran Toner & Jason O neill are on the way to Australia for a year. Big loss for yous if true and Toner a big loss for Armagh

Unfortunately it is

Jason is away to Singapore
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BennyCake on October 09, 2011, 03:06:14 AM
Is the county final today or next Sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on October 09, 2011, 04:34:28 PM
Next Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlie stubbs on October 09, 2011, 05:49:10 PM
tones promoted to top tier after shanes lost to madden by 2.  eire og won junior 3-6 to 1-7 i think score was.  trouble in crowd after game sad to hear, great day for football in north armagh!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tommo2 on October 09, 2011, 09:09:11 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 09, 2011, 05:49:10 PM
tones promoted to top tier after shanes lost to madden by 2.  eire og won junior 3-6 to 1-7 i think score was.  trouble in crowd after game sad to hear, great day for football in north armagh!

Good to see Tyrone and killyclogher man Shane Treacy win a Junior champiosip today. Good player and killycloghers loss!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on October 09, 2011, 10:40:00 PM
Quote from: charlie stubbs on October 09, 2011, 05:49:10 PM
tones promoted to top tier after shanes lost to madden by 2.  eire og won junior 3-6 to 1-7 i think score was.  trouble in crowd after game sad to hear, great day for football in north armagh!

Trouble was during second half. Dealt with by stewards and culprits shown the exit gates. It is a long time since I saw such scenes at the Athletic Grounds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 09, 2011, 11:19:13 PM
What happened?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 10, 2011, 01:37:29 AM
Ballymacnab although big underdogs they will not disgrace themselves in the final, they are no Madden in the 90something final.  They have a lot of class up front but cross are great at choking the life out of classy forward lines and they will have done their homework as the clans and granemore 2nd halfs were near carb and copy. I hope we get a game worthy of a final, but if the ogs minors win on wednesday night surely the senior game will be 2nd billing ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stalwart on October 10, 2011, 11:40:36 AM
what happened i crowd , not like clonmore?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 10, 2011, 01:59:58 PM
Clonmore player (no.6?) lands a big hit on young Ogs forward (didn't see it so don't know if it was legal/illegal). Ogs player lying down on ground receiving treatment.

The first gentleman took exception to this, started shouting to him to get  the f**k up etc.

The second gentleman, behind him, took exception to that and branded the Clonmore no.6 a gypsy.

The first gentleman did not hear clearly, and asked the second gentleman to repeat himself.

Second gentleman repeated himself.

Third gentleman throws first dig towards gentleman number two, melee ensues between 1,3 and 2; a few women and children in immediate vicinity become visibly distressed, (especially women sat along with gentleman 2) small bit of blood discharged from gentleman 2, incident is swiftly dealt with by stewards and is cleared within minutes.

Unsavoury scenes though it has to be said that neither gentleman 1 or 2 are from Clonmore or Éire Óg (Blackwatertown and Glenavy actually - big rivalry that); though I cannot comment as to who gentleman 3's  club may be.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 10, 2011, 02:04:34 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 10, 2011, 01:37:29 AM
Ballymacnab although big underdogs they will not disgrace themselves in the final, they are no Madden in the 90something final.  They have a lot of class up front but cross are great at choking the life out of classy forward lines and they will have done their homework as the clans and granemore 2nd halfs were near carb and copy. I hope we get a game worthy of a final, but if the ogs minors win on wednesday night surely the senior game will be 2nd billing ;)
Have to agree, Cross will win pulling up, any thoughts the Nab have of playing football will be put to bed, Cross will simply squeeze them out like a tube of toothpaste. A shame really because the Nab have the best forward line in the county IMO.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stalwart on October 10, 2011, 02:32:50 PM
your detail of events is very detailed, you musnt have been too far away! lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 10, 2011, 02:53:19 PM
Quote from: stalwart on October 10, 2011, 02:32:50 PM
your detail of events is very detailed, you musnt have been too far away! lol
Was not indeed happened right on top of me, had to try split it up, they were all gypsies in my view!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: flog the lot on October 10, 2011, 03:47:30 PM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 10, 2011, 08:02:33 PM
Quote from: flog the lot on October 10, 2011, 03:47:30 PM
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They have a chance of winning wedding package worth £10,000

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THANKS!!

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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 10, 2011, 10:35:19 PM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mrgaa1 on October 11, 2011, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 10, 2011, 01:59:58 PM
Clonmore player (no.6?) lands a big hit on young Ogs forward (didn't see it so don't know if it was legal/illegal). Ogs player lying down on ground receiving treatment.

The first gentleman took exception to this, started shouting to him to get  the f**k up etc.

The second gentleman, behind him, took exception to that and branded the Clonmore no.6 a gypsy.

The first gentleman did not hear clearly, and asked the second gentleman to repeat himself.

Second gentleman repeated himself.

Third gentleman throws first dig towards gentleman number two, melee ensues between 1,3 and 2; a few women and children in immediate vicinity become visibly distressed, (especially women sat along with gentleman 2) small bit of blood discharged from gentleman 2, incident is swiftly dealt with by stewards and is cleared within minutes.

Unsavoury scenes though it has to be said that neither gentleman 1 or 2 are from Clonmore or Éire Óg (Blackwatertown and Glenavy actually - big rivalry that); though I cannot comment as to who gentleman 3's  club may be.
Lets hope that those involved are not allowed back into the stadium or any GAA ground.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 11, 2011, 03:37:39 PM
i take it the glenavy man was there to support the nutcase of a manager called michael who tried to assault the 4th offical and then raved like a lunatic in the ogs dug-out. no place for boys like that. as for the row the stewarts should have got the peoples details and make sure they dont get in again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 11, 2011, 09:07:58 PM
I assume that we will have some Granemore support on Sunday. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on October 12, 2011, 09:27:52 AM
Yes crossfire i have no doubt that you will have alot of granemore support come sunday although i hardly think they will be cheering u on from the rooftops as they wont want to be seen doing so but will want u to win nonetheless. There may be however a few that will cheer for the us but probably a select few.
As for the game itself i have never had a better feeling about a game in my life, think its time for a new name on the trophy and come 5.30pm Sunday I have no doubt that name will be Ballymacnab Round Towers!! :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2011, 09:56:00 AM
I doubt even the emnity between Ballymacnab and Granemore will be enough to stop them wishing Cross beaten.  They may not be cheering it out loud but lets face it no one outside of Cross wants to see Cross winning, and understandably so.  I reckon Ballymacnab will be very hard to beat.  They have a serious forward line.  I don't know if our defence can hold it so if they get enough ball around the middle then I reckon they have it for the taking. 

Tell me maroon1, is your man Kevin Beagan the lad who was the captain of the St Pats Armagh team that won the McRory a number of years back?  I always thought he was a Pearse Ogs man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 12, 2011, 10:43:23 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2011, 09:56:00 AM
I doubt even the emnity between Ballymacnab and Granemore will be enough to stop them wishing Cross beaten.  They may not be cheering it out loud but lets face it no one outside of Cross wants to see Cross winning, and understandably so.  I reckon Ballymacnab will be very hard to beat.  They have a serious forward line.  I don't know if our defence can hold it so if they get enough ball around the middle then I reckon they have it for the taking. 

Tell me maroon1, is your man Kevin Beagan the lad who was the captain of the St Pats Armagh team that won the McRory a number of years back?  I always thought he was a Pearse Ogs man.

Used to be Keady.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on October 12, 2011, 11:52:22 AM
Kevin used to play for keady as he lives there but his dad is from the nab and all his brothers played for the nab, winning junior and intermediate championships so it was inevitable that Kevin would join to at some stage but keady stopped his transfer on a few occasions I think! I bet he is well glad he joined now!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on October 12, 2011, 11:55:49 AM
Yes he was the captain of the mcrory cup team!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on October 12, 2011, 12:57:21 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2011, 09:56:00 AM
I doubt even the emnity between Ballymacnab and Granemore will be enough to stop them wishing Cross beaten.  They may not be cheering it out loud but lets face it no one outside of Cross wants to see Cross winning, and understandably so.  I reckon Ballymacnab will be very hard to beat.  They have a serious forward line.  I don't know if our defence can hold it so if they get enough ball around the middle then I reckon they have it for the taking. 

Tell me maroon1, is your man Kevin Beagan the lad who was the captain of the St Pats Armagh team that won the McRory a number of years back?  I always thought he was a Pearse Ogs man.
Thats bollocks I'm not from Cross and want them to win as they are our only current realistic chance of an All Ireland in the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2011, 01:01:13 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 12, 2011, 12:57:21 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2011, 09:56:00 AM
I doubt even the emnity between Ballymacnab and Granemore will be enough to stop them wishing Cross beaten.  They may not be cheering it out loud but lets face it no one outside of Cross wants to see Cross winning, and understandably so.  I reckon Ballymacnab will be very hard to beat.  They have a serious forward line.  I don't know if our defence can hold it so if they get enough ball around the middle then I reckon they have it for the taking. 

Tell me maroon1, is your man Kevin Beagan the lad who was the captain of the St Pats Armagh team that won the McRory a number of years back?  I always thought he was a Pearse Ogs man.
Thats bollocks I'm not from Cross and want them to win as they are our only current realistic chance of an All Ireland in the county.

Thanks for the support but I would think you are mainly in the minority.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on October 12, 2011, 03:28:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2011, 01:01:13 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 12, 2011, 12:57:21 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2011, 09:56:00 AM
I doubt even the emnity between Ballymacnab and Granemore will be enough to stop them wishing Cross beaten.  They may not be cheering it out loud but lets face it no one outside of Cross wants to see Cross winning, and understandably so.  I reckon Ballymacnab will be very hard to beat.  They have a serious forward line.  I don't know if our defence can hold it so if they get enough ball around the middle then I reckon they have it for the taking. 

Tell me maroon1, is your man Kevin Beagan the lad who was the captain of the St Pats Armagh team that won the McRory a number of years back?  I always thought he was a Pearse Ogs man.
Thats bollocks I'm not from Cross and want them to win as they are our only current realistic chance of an All Ireland in the county.

Thanks for the support but I would think you are mainly in the minority.

Up the Rangers!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 12, 2011, 03:32:56 PM
think ur right there bcb1 but i have to say u generally offer a good assessment of most teams unlike a lot of cross supporters who are loud and insulting. but the team its self has to be commended. unfortunately the team has lost a lot of neutral support over the years due to cross supporters. urself excluded of course ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on October 12, 2011, 03:47:24 PM
Up granemore, oh that's right youse aren't in the final!! Youse only lose semi-finals;-)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on October 12, 2011, 04:35:14 PM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 12, 2011, 03:47:24 PM
Up granemore, oh that's right youse aren't in the final!! Youse only lose semi-finals;-)

Have you no homework??

Tbh i hope us get what yous deserve on Sunday a right good hammering :D :D And i mean 20-30 points     
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 12, 2011, 07:52:39 PM
A bitter bitter man AG, can't believe you still haven't swallowed that bitter pill
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 12, 2011, 09:28:06 PM
If u give me a free bet I'd put it on Cross. However if Nab play with belief and worry about their game and not trying to stop Cross they have a big chance, they have a v good forward line and if they can shade mid field and get quality 1st time ball in then they can cause damage.

I've no doubt Tony Mac will have worked on this hence squeezing the life out of Nab...

Cross 1-12
Nab 2-06
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 12, 2011, 10:14:32 PM
Look Cross will win based on the fact that Osin can still get the major scores and if they get any ball into Clarke he will either create a score, score or buy oops win a free ;)

As someone said they manage to get in front and the kill the opposition off with taking their chances when they come. Good team who will always be there at the business end of things. Hats off to them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 12, 2011, 10:45:20 PM
For 'Nab to win everyone on their team will have to be on top form and have a bit of luck as well. Cross have a strong squad, if one or two players are off form they can bring on a sub of broadly similar ability and experience.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on October 13, 2011, 12:26:26 AM
Hope for a good game on Sunday and with luck the Nab can put a new name on the trophy. If as expected Cross win I will be supporting them all the way hopefully to an Ulster and All Ireland double. The minor match should make for a good double header on Sunday. I will take Harps in that one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on October 13, 2011, 09:53:00 AM
A lot of people here slagging the Cross supporters. Jealousy I would say. Cross people get in behind the team in numbers and fair play to them. To an outsider their sense of community is brilliant. They are no worse than any other clubs supporters and in proportion probably have the same percentage of slabbers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on October 13, 2011, 10:10:25 AM

How did the league games go between the two finalists?

I have to say that I don't really see a way for the nab to win. They have a potent forward line and mostly win games which are open shoot outs. Unfortunately for them, cross have the best forward line in the county and would relish that approach. In addition, the nab had the poorest defence I saw in division 1 this year. Its a difficult conundrum for them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on October 13, 2011, 10:43:39 AM
Yeah u would know alot about football duffleking!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 13, 2011, 12:32:09 PM
i have to agree with duffle nabs strength is mid-field and forward line. i would worry about their defence against cross,s strongest part of their team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on October 13, 2011, 05:34:25 PM
Why all the concern over nabs defence....cross defence arent great and are quite sluggish, i think they will really struggle to keep up with the nabs pacy forwards resulting in pulling and dragging from them and frees being awarded which should be easily converted by mccone, grugan and mcparland!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 13, 2011, 05:48:15 PM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 13, 2011, 05:34:25 PM
Why all the concern over nabs defence....cross defence arent great and are quite sluggish, i think they will really struggle to keep up with the nabs pacy forwards resulting in pulling and dragging from them and frees being awarded which should be easily converted by mccone, grugan and mcparland!!

You're probably right there, I reckon this will be a lot closer than people think and the Nab forwards are going to be too quick for us, particularly our FB line which has been dodgy for years.  I think we will win but if the Nab are close with 5 to go I reckon they'll nick it. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on October 14, 2011, 07:14:17 AM
Lol. Good man bc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on October 14, 2011, 08:34:52 AM
So duffleking your clubs defence must be top drawer given the fact they arent even in the final.....yeah they must be real tight, there isint much passes them!!  loser!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on October 14, 2011, 08:48:54 AM
If Gavin McParland can get enough ball He'll give Paul Kernan a torrid time in fairness.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 14, 2011, 09:18:27 AM
Maroon1 Baboon1 would you chill out ffs, you can squabble with your parish neighbours all you want over whos the best in cill clowna but this is a discussion thread and duffleking was merely giving his opinion on your defence which you can agree or disagree. A solid comeback of proof of holding a good granemore forward line in the semis might have been a bit classier.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 14, 2011, 09:44:52 AM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 14, 2011, 08:34:52 AM
So duffleking your clubs defence must be top drawer given the fact they arent even in the final.....yeah they must be real tight, there isint much passes them!!  loser!

Your gonna get a shock on Sunday... the upside is that we might never hear from you again after Sunday!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 14, 2011, 09:57:19 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 14, 2011, 07:14:17 AM
Lol. Good man bc

I just call it as I see it duffle, I always have.  I am not sayiing we're not favourites but Ballymacnab will be very hard to beat. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 14, 2011, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 14, 2011, 09:57:19 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 14, 2011, 07:14:17 AM
Lol. Good man bc

I just call it as I see it duffle, I always have.  I am not sayiing we're favourites but Ballymacnab will be very hard to beat.

So who ARE the favourites then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 14, 2011, 10:53:55 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 14, 2011, 10:47:05 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 14, 2011, 09:57:19 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 14, 2011, 07:14:17 AM
Lol. Good man bc

I just call it as I see it duffle, I always have.  I am not sayiing we're favourites but Ballymacnab will be very hard to beat.

So who ARE the favourites then?

Changed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on October 14, 2011, 11:08:00 AM
Ogshead do i detect a wee bit of jealousy on your behalf there, maybe the fact the the we are in the final and not u,  the fact that the 'wee' country team up the road who u used to beat time and time again at underage level and laugh at are now in fact better than u, would i be right in saying that?

Ok u won a final a few years ago, whoppy do, about time given the pick that u have but unforntunately for u it will be a long time before u win another...so hold onto your memories my good friend, 2009 has been and gone, probably be another 17years plus looking at your curent crop!!;-) ;-)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 14, 2011, 11:15:33 AM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 14, 2011, 11:08:00 AM
Ogshead do i detect a wee bit of jealousy on your behalf there, maybe the fact the the we are in the final and not u,  the fact that the 'wee' country team up the road who u used to beat time and time again at underage level and laugh at are now in fact better than u, would i be right in saying that?

Ok u won a final a few years ago, whoppy do, about time given the pick that u have but unforntunately for u it will be a long time before u win another...so hold onto your memories my good friend, 2009 has been and gone, probably be another 17years plus looking at your curent crop!!;-) ;-)

Of course the Ogs are jealous, every club, including my own, wants to be in the final but thanks to some fine performances and a kind draw, its Ballymacnab who have made it this year.

What that doesn't change however is that that many people, including myself, hold the genuine belief that Crossmaglen will win this match comfortably. Now I will be delighted to be proved wrong but I suspect that on Monday you will wishing you'd carried yourself with a little more grace.

Or in short, wise up and stop embarrassing yourself and your club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 14, 2011, 11:19:13 AM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 14, 2011, 11:08:00 AM
Ogshead do i detect a wee bit of jealousy on your behalf there, maybe the fact the the we are in the final and not u,  the fact that the 'wee' country team up the road who u used to beat time and time again at underage level and laugh at are now in fact better than u, would i be right in saying that?

Ok u won a final a few years ago, whoppy do, about time given the pick that u have but unforntunately for u it will be a long time before u win another...so hold onto your memories my good friend, 2009 has been and gone, probably be another 17years plus looking at your curent crop!!;-) ;-)

You really are a moron.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 14, 2011, 11:50:37 AM
Lads stop being so hard on tha lad, he's excited so let him be, win or lose on Sunday Ballymacnab have a lot to be proud of.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 14, 2011, 11:57:44 AM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 14, 2011, 11:08:00 AM
Ogshead do i detect a wee bit of jealousy on your behalf there, maybe the fact the the we are in the final and not u,  the fact that the 'wee' country team up the road who u used to beat time and time again at underage level and laugh at are now in fact better than u, would i be right in saying that?

Ok u won a final a few years ago, whoppy do, about time given the pick that u have but unforntunately for u it will be a long time before u win another...so hold onto your memories my good friend, 2009 has been and gone, probably be another 17years plus looking at your curent crop!!;-) ;-)

Of course I would love to be in the final on Sunday but your embarrassing your club by the way your going on. I have cousins from the Nab and I would love to see them win. I have helped out with a few things for your club over the years as well so I'm delighted their in the final. I don't think you represent true Ballymacnab supporters as I know their not all like you
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 14, 2011, 12:04:59 PM
As a matter of interest... is Moron1 the person who got banned from armaghgaa.net? I missed all that last week but notice the moderators removed someone
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 14, 2011, 12:21:16 PM
Quote from: ogshead on October 14, 2011, 12:04:59 PM
As a matter of interest... is Moron1 the person who got banned from armaghgaa.net? I missed all that last week but notice the moderators removed someone

I think that was a guy named Peter Griffin.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on October 14, 2011, 01:23:01 PM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 14, 2011, 11:08:00 AM
Ogshead do i detect a wee bit of jealousy on your behalf there, maybe the fact the the we are in the final and not u,  the fact that the 'wee' country team up the road who u used to beat time and time again at underage level and laugh at are now in fact better than u, would i be right in saying that?

Ok u won a final a few years ago, whoppy do, about time given the pick that u have but unforntunately for u it will be a long time before u win another...so hold onto your memories my good friend, 2009 has been and gone, probably be another 17years plus looking at your curent crop!!;-) ;-)
Christ who put the cactus up your a*se?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Maroon1 on October 14, 2011, 01:58:25 PM
I'd say it's not the only thing u had up ur arse;-)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 02:09:09 PM
Is there a minor game before the senior on Sunday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 14, 2011, 11:00:45 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 14, 2011, 02:09:09 PM
Is there a minor game before the senior on Sunday?

Yep... Ogs play the Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 15, 2011, 07:13:23 PM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 13, 2011, 05:34:25 PM
Why all the concern over nabs defence....cross defence arent great and are quite sluggish, i think they will really struggle to keep up with the nabs pacy forwards resulting in pulling and dragging from them and frees being awarded which should be easily converted by mccone, grugan and mcparland!!

:o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 15, 2011, 08:06:11 PM
Will this Maroon1 guy be back on after the final? Has he never heard or seen Cross before? It must be BC in disguise ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on October 16, 2011, 03:05:05 AM
Is the Cross Nab match going to be televised? If so, does anyone have a link for it?
Thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rattle-the-net on October 16, 2011, 11:20:04 AM
I think a big element that will affect the game today is experience!

Now people will say the Nab have nothing to lose and rightly so.... If those Nab players are in the right mind frame that they are going to win, soon as they cross the white line and into a packed Athletic Grounds the fact of having nothing to lose will go out of their mind and they will just be concentrating on playing well and not making any mistakes.

Cross have been there so many times before and they know how to ride out the storm....If one or two mistakes creep in its how the Nab react to this will determine how close the game will be... I think the Nabs defence is good enough but they need to play out of their skin to keep the Cross forward line quiet.

People have questioned Cross's midfield but it had been questioned all last year too and they are AI champs.

Nab have 3/4 good forwards but again i think Cross will have the experience to deal with them.

Along with the fact i still think Cross will need to have an off day and everything will need to go right for the Nab i still cant see past Cross on this one.... But who knows what can happen in 60mins!?

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BennyCake on October 16, 2011, 04:19:18 PM
Latest: 17 mins
Cross 0-6 Ballymacnab 0-0
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 04:22:04 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 16, 2011, 04:19:18 PM
Latest: 17 mins
Cross 0-6 Ballymacnab 0-0
What about those forawrds  'Nab' have? ;D Obvisously they can't get the ball past midfield
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 16, 2011, 04:36:28 PM
Half time
Cross 0-12
Nab 0-1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 16, 2011, 04:38:50 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 16, 2011, 04:36:28 PM
Half time
Cross 0-12
Nab 0-1

Hmmmm, thank God I stayed at home! Is there a strong wind or something?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 16, 2011, 04:39:36 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 16, 2011, 04:36:28 PM
Half time
Cross 0-12
Nab 0-1

That's the last we'll hear of maroon1 then... I am disappointed for them though. Pity they couldn't have put up a better show of it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 16, 2011, 04:40:09 PM
Cross had whatever wind there is in the 1st half,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 04:41:38 PM
Were they all out on the lash?? f**king waste of journey for our management team that's for sure, nearly headed down myself FFS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 16, 2011, 04:45:35 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 16, 2011, 04:40:09 PM
Cross had whatever wind there is in the 1st half,

Probably doesn't matter now...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on October 16, 2011, 04:50:34 PM
Cross missed a penalty as well and missed two other goal chances. The Ballymacnab keeper pulled off three great saves.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Oraisteach on October 16, 2011, 04:55:22 PM
Who won the minor final?  Wish I'd been there for that one?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 16, 2011, 04:56:57 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on October 16, 2011, 04:55:22 PM
Who won the minor final?  Wish I'd been there for that one?

Harps won
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 16, 2011, 04:57:23 PM
Cross 1-17
Nab 0-2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 04:59:25 PM
FFs give them the ball ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on October 16, 2011, 05:01:37 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 16, 2011, 04:57:23 PM
Cross 1-17
Nab 0-2

Wow 18 points at the moment - has to be the largest losing margin in a senior final?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 16, 2011, 05:03:40 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 04:59:25 PM
FFs give them the ball ;D

No good to us. Set up nicely for your boys in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rattle-the-net on October 16, 2011, 05:04:11 PM
Hope the defeat isnt to bad on the Nab... can really have a bad effect on a club and knock them back!

One thing that wouldnt have helped is that the Nab had possibly one of the handiest draws to get to a final in years, bye in the first round, clan na gael in the QF, then the only real test was Granmore (and IMO there are better Cship teams in the county Ogs, St Pats, Dromintee to name a few)

Now that is not their fault!!!!! they can only play who is in front off them.

What im really getting at is that there wouldnt have been enough tight games in there too build up real momentum!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 05:06:11 PM
Ogs would have given ya's a better game, but sure we've done fcuk all for 5 weeks, think I'll take some of that 2/1 Paddy Power are offering on ya's ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Up The Blues :) on October 16, 2011, 05:07:02 PM
2-19
0-2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 16, 2011, 05:08:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 05:06:11 PM
Ogs would have given ya's a better game, but sure we've done fcuk all for 5 weeks, think I'll take some of that 2/1 Paddy Power are offering on ya's ;)

I'm sure you will :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Up The Blues :) on October 16, 2011, 05:12:50 PM
2-21
0-3

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 05:13:42 PM
Is that a hurling score?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Up The Blues :) on October 16, 2011, 05:15:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 05:13:42 PM
Is that a hurling score?

Unfortunately Not !!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 16, 2011, 05:19:33 PM
Final score 2-22 to 0-3. Embaressing is not the word.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 05:22:02 PM
Was Marron1 about?  He'll be away off to Hoganstand now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on October 16, 2011, 05:24:01 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 16, 2011, 05:19:33 PM
Final score 2-22 to 0-3. Embaressing is not the word.

Blackwatertown Shamrocks are happy their 121 year record of heaviest defeat in the senior championship final is now gone!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 16, 2011, 05:26:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on October 16, 2011, 05:23:42 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 16, 2011, 05:19:33 PM
Final score 2-22 to 0-3. Embaressing is not the word.
That may be because it is not a word.

Piss off, I have a hang over!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 16, 2011, 05:27:54 PM
Just checked county final scores from over the years... by far this is a record winning margin or losing margin, whichever way you want to look at it. Closest to it where Cross' victory over Clans in '96 by 14 points, followed by their victory over Madden by 13 in '98 and Clans over Maghery by 13 in '93.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 16, 2011, 05:29:18 PM
My error... I didn't even look at the first scoreline on the list!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on October 16, 2011, 05:31:50 PM
Quote from: ogshead on October 16, 2011, 05:29:18 PM
My error... I didn't even look at the first scoreline on the list!!

Yes still it was 23 points, the record is now 25 points - crazy - doesn't really say much for Armagh football, or maybe it just confirms the dominance of Cross!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on October 16, 2011, 05:32:08 PM

Couldn't fault the nab defence though...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 05:37:26 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 16, 2011, 05:32:08 PM

Couldn't fault the nab defence though...

Surprised they didn't throw in the towel at halftime. Cross should hammer us now after that result.

Favourites for the game and played like favourites should, Could be a Halloween Nightmare again for us against cross :(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 16, 2011, 05:40:09 PM
As an historical aside, I'm not sure we can compare with Blackwatertown's horror show with today's result given that back then a goal outweighed any number of points I think. A goal wasn't worth a set value of points.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 05:41:50 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 16, 2011, 05:40:09 PM
As an historical aside, I'm not sure we can compare with Blackwatertown's horror show with today's result given that back then a goal outweighed any number of points I think. A goal wasn't worth a set value of points.

Aye and they played with a cabbage too, 25 aside and there were hills on the pitch
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on October 16, 2011, 05:45:04 PM
Marooooon?? where are you???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 02 on October 16, 2011, 05:45:51 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 05:41:50 PM
Aye and they played with a cabbage too, 25 aside and there were hills on the pitch

Sounds good, the nab could have been doing with 10 extra players today!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 16, 2011, 06:00:13 PM
What a disappointing result. I can sympathise with the Nab because they did to us in the QF what Cross did to them today today - simply froze on the occasion and didn't play to their potential.

The Nab were never in it. In the first half they'd about a handful of scoring chances and took only one. Cross with a strong enough breeze had plenty and took nearly all of them, showed no mercy. The second half was more of the same. Left early.

On an aside that puke making constant announcements over the tannoy gave me a right headache listening to him read every word out from the programme  >:(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 16, 2011, 06:08:53 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 16, 2011, 06:00:13 PM
What a disappointing result. I can sympathise with the Nab because they did to us in the QF what Cross did to them today today - simply froze on the occasion and didn't play to their potential.

The Nab were never in it. In the first half they'd about a handful of scoring chances and took only one. Cross with a strong enough breeze had plenty and took nearly all of them, showed no mercy. The second half was more of the same. Left early.

On an aside that puke making constant announcements over the tannoy gave me a right headache listening to him read every word out from the programme  >:(

I can remember a couple of years ago they kept making announcements while the ball was in play or when players were taking free kicks... very irritating!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on October 16, 2011, 06:43:22 PM
Congrats to Harps Minors, 5th Minor title in 9/10 years, that's good going, especially pleasing in that 3 of those teams won little or nothing at various underage levels before winning the minor title.

Thought today's final scoreline of 3.11 to 12 was very flattering to us tbh, we played pretty poorly overall.  I suppose it's the sign of decent side that we can win while playing poorly.  I've often thought the Ogs raise their game at the sight of us and we tend to be very wary when we play them even when we have a superior team.  Some great performances from young Rory McGrath, Shea Grimley and Conor White, but overall very disjointed, plenty to work on and a lot more required if we are to make any impact in the Ulster minor.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 16, 2011, 07:02:28 PM
There were questions about the Cross midfield, McKenna got MOM. With the ball not passing midfield 'Nab couldn't use their forwards. I'd have given the 'Nab goalie MOM!
As for records, goals aside no team managed more than 16 points in an Armagh final before today.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 16, 2011, 08:04:28 PM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 13, 2011, 05:34:25 PM
Why all the concern over nabs defence....cross defence arent great and are quite sluggish, i think they will really struggle to keep up with the nabs pacy forwards resulting in pulling and dragging from them and frees being awarded which should be easily converted by mccone, grugan and mcparland!!

:) :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 16, 2011, 08:08:41 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 16, 2011, 08:04:28 PM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 13, 2011, 05:34:25 PM
Why all the concern over nabs defence....cross defence arent great and are quite sluggish, i think they will really struggle to keep up with the nabs pacy forwards resulting in pulling and dragging from them and frees being awarded which should be easily converted by mccone, grugan and mcparland!!

:) :)

I think that is the last we hear from Russell Grant and his prediction!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on October 16, 2011, 08:27:10 PM
Weres Maroon?? :D :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BerfArmagh on October 16, 2011, 08:36:03 PM
Bit of an annihilation today, The nab were just completely out of their depth. A great achievement reaching the final, but they were lambs to the slaughter, cross were very clinical, should be a good game against the Galls.... Well done to the harps minors
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 16, 2011, 09:59:59 PM
Very impressed with Cross today...just when u think Cross are labouring along and are there for the taking they just wipe the floor with you. Whats bred into them lads from they're no age at all is impressive, the winning mentality and the right attitude is what wins them men the titles they've won. Grugan and McParland never got a sniff today as they had men hanging out of them and were not allowed the freedom and space they have been getting in the previous rounds, McKenna and Hanratty in the middle lorded it and when Cross got a chance they took it...i feel a bit for the Nab guys as the shoe was on the other foot not that long ago and it's not a nice feeling, that defeat will either galvanise them and make them even more hungry to come back next year and prove that they're not that bad or they will crumble and fall away???

Milltown you're barking up the wrong tree if u think that crying to BCB will work and that the Cross men will heed your tactic's of writing of St Galls ;) :D. Should be a good game...looking forward to that and hopefully the City men will get a we taste of what Cross dished out today :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 16, 2011, 10:25:04 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 16, 2011, 09:59:59 PM
Very impressed with Cross today...just when u think Cross are labouring along and are there for the taking they just wipe the floor with you. Whats bred into them lads from they're no age at all is impressive, the winning mentality and the right attitude is what wins them men the titles they've won. Grugan and McParland never got a sniff today as they had men hanging out of them and were not allowed the freedom and space they have been getting in the previous rounds, McKenna and Hanratty in the middle lorded it and when Cross got a chance they took it...i feel a bit for the Nab guys as the shoe was on the other foot not that long ago and it's not a nice feeling, that defeat will either galvanise them and make them even more hungry to come back next year and prove that they're not that bad or they will crumble and fall away???

Milltown you're barking up the wrong tree if u think that crying to BCB will work and that the Cross men will heed your tactic's of writing of St Galls ;) :D. Should be a good game...looking forward to that and hopefully the City men will get a we taste of what Cross dished out today :o

Look Cross have won so much and are current All Ireland Champions, they are a great team, no crying from me at all. We haven't beat them and after last year I'd say we are still way behind them.

We only managed to beat Lamhs by 3 in the county final so again I'm not trying to blow smoke up BCB arse. Do you think it will be a big surprise if Cross win?

Besides nothing is won on a discussion board FFS ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 16, 2011, 11:10:53 PM
Milltown i'm only winding u up FFS...take a chill pill
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on October 17, 2011, 12:16:03 AM
Very sorry display from Ballymacnab. Outside of their outstanding keeper, they hadn't a single player that showed up on the day. A real pity for a club that evidently put in a lot of work around the place in preparation for the day.

Not that it would have made a blind bit of difference to the result, but if the Nab had've been set up a bit cuter they could've kept the score down a bit. They should've crowded the middle and their defence playing into that breeze in the first half. Instead they naively went man to man in defence and left their best players scratching their holes while the game was played up the other end of the pitch. Cross were out of sight before the Nab players had time to catch a breath.

Cross won their four championship games this year by an average of 16 points. I hope they win the AI to mollify that pretty depressing statistic at least a bit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 17, 2011, 12:46:22 AM
I thought the only 2 Nab players that came out of the game with a we bit of pride was the goalie and their no 7 (baldy guy "Beagen" i think his name)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on October 17, 2011, 12:50:24 AM
Quote from: AFS on October 17, 2011, 12:16:03 AM

Cross won their four championship games this year by an average of 16 points. I hope they win the AI to mollify that pretty depressing statistic at least a bit.

Lovely word!

It should also be added that Pearse Ogs - who they beat by five - are the only real challengers they met. If Pearse Ogs or Cullyhanna had met any of the other three they probably have won easy also. I would also suggest that the Intermediate champions would have beat them as well!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on October 17, 2011, 12:53:54 AM
Quote from: illdecide on October 17, 2011, 12:46:22 AM
I thought the only 2 Nab players that came out of the game with a we bit of pride was the goalie and their no 7 (baldy guy "Beagen" i think his name)

You could not really judge the forwards as the ball never got up to them! Must say though that with the couple of touches he got Grugan showed he has real class. Let's hope he can prove doubters wrong and grow into a county footballer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 17, 2011, 05:30:21 AM
Quote from: illdecide on October 17, 2011, 12:46:22 AM
I thought the only 2 Nab players that came out of the game with a we bit of pride was the goalie and their no 7 (baldy guy "Beagen" i think his name)

The Harps man and the Keady man ;), ulster minor and macrory cup medals in the hip pocket, two good players, illdecide sure jimmy'its in the back of the net' smyths son will fill you in on Beagens talents im sure.

Well done to the Harps lads, im sad i couldn't make it but from all reports the pogs ran out of steam in the 2nd half and that was probably a given with their exploits this past two weeks.

Will anyone touch this cross team in the next 5 years? A cullyhana man was querying me today why can't the harps make the grade, i couldnt put an argument up, 5 out of 9 minor titles has to provide you with some kind of base. maybe a discussion for another day.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Scarface on October 17, 2011, 10:26:34 AM
Well what a waste of a tenner that was!! Went to game expecting a comfortable enough Cross win but hoping that Ballymacnab would do themselves justice. They didnt. Once Cross got 4 or 5-0 up the writing was totally on the wall and what unfolded next was a horror show for any neutral (which I was). Ballymacnab were totally out of their depth - fair play to them for getting to this stage but the result might hinder them in the long run rather than help. Cross were superior in every department which you might have expected but the difference in physical strength and size was most apparent out on the field. Nab were lambs to the slaughter.

Congratulations to Cross of course for their continued excellence. However this was a sad indictment of our county championship. A totally over matched team being over run leading to no atmosphere or excitement at match at all. It was dead. The fact that Nab had earlier defeated Clanns (one of the most successful teams ever in Armagh football) by 20 odd points and the fact that Cross had defeated Harps (one of the most successful teams ever in Armagh football) by around the same margin in an earlier round shows where our county championship is at.

Fair play to Cross but the rest need to seriously look at themselves.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on October 17, 2011, 10:39:46 AM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 14, 2011, 11:08:00 AM
Ogshead do i detect a wee bit of jealousy on your behalf there, maybe the fact the the we are in the final and not u,  the fact that the 'wee' country team up the road who u used to beat time and time again at underage level and laugh at are now in fact better than u, would i be right in saying that?

Ok u won a final a few years ago, whoppy do, about time given the pick that u have but unforntunately for u it will be a long time before u win another...so hold onto your memories my good friend, 2009 has been and gone, probably be another 17years plus looking at your curent crop!!;-) ;-)

What memories will you be holding onto from yesterday? You may well need counselling! Anyway given the stick you have dished out it is no wonder you've gone to ground!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orchardman on October 17, 2011, 12:13:51 PM
I know it has been said about cross having an easy run to win it, but that's not really true. The nab were on the easy side of the draw, though i did think granemore would definately beat, so credit to the nab for that.

On the other hand cullyhana, whitecross, and pearse og battled with each other, and cross defeated the ogs. Don't even mention dromintee, their not contenders any more. Cullyhana looked good last year, but og's took care of them without too much bother. Bad times in the club scene!
Credit to cross though, go on and win ulster lads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: shawshank on October 17, 2011, 12:53:47 PM
Is club football that poor in armagh lads? I can't think of county in Ulster where a team took such a hammering. What is going on with club football in Armagh? Other then Cross of course, why can they produce three teams and others who have tradition produce none?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on October 17, 2011, 01:01:49 PM
Some pics from the game

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157627913880604/

obviously click on thumbnail for larger image
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on October 17, 2011, 03:02:49 PM
Pics from Minor game

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157627914685064/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Farrandeelin on October 17, 2011, 07:25:54 PM
Just want to add my congrats to Crossmaglen. Since ye beat us in the 1997 AI Club final, ye have dominated Armagh club football. While we only won the 1997 Mayo club championship. Any tips from the Crossmaglen lads as to how ye keep doing it? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 17, 2011, 07:31:39 PM
People are questioning the standard of the Armagh SFC and then in the same breath predicting Cross to go the whole way. Every year.

They're always among the favourites for the All Ireland, maybe they are just an unreal team? They are essentially a county-standard club side!

Is the standard bad in Ulster/nationwide if Cross win another Ulster/AI this year or will it still only be Armagh  ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 17, 2011, 07:39:50 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 17, 2011, 07:31:39 PM
People are questioning the standard of the Armagh SFC and then in the same breath predicting Cross to go the whole way. Every year.

They're always among the favourites for the All Ireland, maybe they are just an unreal team? They are essentially a county-standard club side!

Is the standard bad in Ulster/nationwide if Cross win another Ulster/AI this year or will it still only be Armagh  ???

This stat tells a big tale.  Since 1995 in championship football P 124 W 103 D 11 L 10, that's a 15 year old win ratio of 83% country wide.  Obviously Armagh is nearly 100% but it is a frightening figure.  There is no magic to it either, simply we love winning and the level of committment in Cross is rarely matched.  Eat, live, breath football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 17, 2011, 07:43:46 PM
Think some of yous should relocate to Francis St  :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 17, 2011, 08:06:55 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 17, 2011, 10:39:46 AM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 14, 2011, 11:08:00 AM
Ogshead do i detect a wee bit of jealousy on your behalf there, maybe the fact the the we are in the final and not u,  the fact that the 'wee' country team up the road who u used to beat time and time again at underage level and laugh at are now in fact better than u, would i be right in saying that?

Ok u won a final a few years ago, whoppy do, about time given the pick that u have but unforntunately for u it will be a long time before u win another...so hold onto your memories my good friend, 2009 has been and gone, probably be another 17years plus looking at your curent crop!!;-) ;-)

What memories will you be holding onto from yesterday? You may well need counselling! Anyway given the stick you have dished out it is no wonder you've gone to ground!

He may not be posting but he has been reading the comments... He was online earlier today
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on October 17, 2011, 09:03:21 PM
Can the success of the Cross football team in some way be attributed to the Political situation in the North and the location of Barracks right in the middle of the village?
Along the same lines of how the Catholic Church had a roaring trade when it was dangerous to be a Catholic? GAA became part of an Irish identity to be flaunted in the face of the British on your doorstep maybe?
I wonder will things change as today's younger kids come up through under age and aren't affected by the same pressures???

Not taking anything away from the team or the town, just pondering the reasons why.......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 17, 2011, 09:12:04 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on October 17, 2011, 09:03:21 PM
Can the success of the Cross football team in some way be attributed to the Political situation in the North and the location of Barracks right in the middle of the village?
Along the same lines of how the Catholic Church had a roaring trade when it was dangerous to be a Catholic? GAA became part of an Irish identity to be flaunted in the face of the British on your doorstep maybe?
I wonder will things change as today's younger kids come up through under age and aren't affected by the same pressures???

Not taking anything away from the team or the town, just pondering the reasons why.......

Have you played any matches up the Falls? FFS there was a barrack station on every corner, plus they were based at McRory park (O'Donnell's) and I think they were also based at Casement for a period!! I don't think there were too many days when the troubles were at their height that I didn't have to empty my kit bag on the road while it was searched.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orchardman on October 17, 2011, 09:59:48 PM
I don't think the troubles in much of a reason for their success, having a barracks hasn't helped newtown! i know it's not beside their pitch tright enough. The cross run started in 96, wasn't their last one before that in 86? And they didn't dominate during the 70/80's when the troubles were really at their height.

I know it has been said in the past by the likes of big joe etc, that it has galvinised the club to stick together and maybe it has helped to their success, i don't know.

On another note i've heard other senior club players in armagh saying that the cross training is at least equal to county training, especially the armagh one anyway! could be hype, but wouldn't doubt it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 17, 2011, 10:00:16 PM
QuoteCan the success of the Cross football team in some way be attributed to the Political situation in the North and the location of Barracks right in the middle of the village?

The barracks generated radiation which caused mutations in the population. These only affected people born after 1971. These have now diminished and probably will have less effect on people born after 1997.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 17, 2011, 10:52:40 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on October 17, 2011, 09:03:21 PM
Can the success of the Cross football team in some way be attributed to the Political situation in the North and the location of Barracks right in the middle of the village?
Along the same lines of how the Catholic Church had a roaring trade when it was dangerous to be a Catholic? GAA became part of an Irish identity to be flaunted in the face of the British on your doorstep maybe?
I wonder will things change as today's younger kids come up through under age and aren't affected by the same pressures???

Not taking anything away from the team or the town, just pondering the reasons why.......

No that has nothing to do with it in my view. Crossmaglen was very little different to the rest of South Armagh in terms of the British occupation. Their main advantage is simply that they are the greastest population centre in a part of the world where there is very little competition from other sports. Beyond that, the reasons for their success are merely sporting, a superb crop of players coming together under an excellent manager and an excellent conveyer belt of young talent being brought into a culture of success.

I suspect the whole of Armagh may rue the fact that we didn't get the better of Crossmaglen last year. Biased though I may be, my view is that if St Pat's shown a little more composure in both fixtures, we would have beaten Cross, having matched them throughout the field for 120 minutes. Had we managed that, Rangers would have gone 2 years without the title and their aura of invincibility would have been very much shaken. Now, having breezed through Armagh as All Ireland champions, an era of parity in Armagh football seems as far away as ever.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on October 18, 2011, 12:21:24 PM
Quote from: Maroon1 on October 14, 2011, 01:58:25 PM
I'd say it's not the only thing u had up ur arse;-)
i,d say his head is up his ar-e for the forseeable future. disappointing for genuine nab people the team just didnt turn up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 18, 2011, 12:29:51 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 17, 2011, 10:52:40 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on October 17, 2011, 09:03:21 PM
Can the success of the Cross football team in some way be attributed to the Political situation in the North and the location of Barracks right in the middle of the village?
Along the same lines of how the Catholic Church had a roaring trade when it was dangerous to be a Catholic? GAA became part of an Irish identity to be flaunted in the face of the British on your doorstep maybe?
I wonder will things change as today's younger kids come up through under age and aren't affected by the same pressures???

Not taking anything away from the team or the town, just pondering the reasons why.......

No that has nothing to do with it in my view. Crossmaglen was very little different to the rest of South Armagh in terms of the British occupation. Their main advantage is simply that they are the greastest population centre in a part of the world where there is very little competition from other sports. Beyond that, the reasons for their success are merely sporting, a superb crop of players coming together under an excellent manager and an excellent conveyer belt of young talent being brought into a culture of success.

I suspect the whole of Armagh may rue the fact that we didn't get the better of Crossmaglen last year. Biased though I may be, my view is that if St Pat's shown a little more composure in both fixtures, we would have beaten Cross, having matched them throughout the field for 120 minutes. Had we managed that, Ranger would have gone 2 years without the title and their aura of invincibility would have been very much shaken. Now, having breezed through Armagh as All Ireland champions, an era of parity in Armagh football seems as far away as ever.

If ifs and ands could make tin cans.......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on October 18, 2011, 01:05:29 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 17, 2011, 10:52:40 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on October 17, 2011, 09:03:21 PM
Can the success of the Cross football team in some way be attributed to the Political situation in the North and the location of Barracks right in the middle of the village?
Along the same lines of how the Catholic Church had a roaring trade when it was dangerous to be a Catholic? GAA became part of an Irish identity to be flaunted in the face of the British on your doorstep maybe?
I wonder will things change as today's younger kids come up through under age and aren't affected by the same pressures???

Not taking anything away from the team or the town, just pondering the reasons why.......

No that has nothing to do with it in my view. Crossmaglen was very little different to the rest of South Armagh in terms of the British occupation. Their main advantage is simply that they are the greastest population centre in a part of the world where there is very little competition from other sports. Beyond that, the reasons for their success are merely sporting, a superb crop of players coming together under an excellent manager and an excellent conveyer belt of young talent being brought into a culture of success.

I suspect the whole of Armagh may rue the fact that we didn't get the better of Crossmaglen last year. Biased though I may be, my view is that if St Pat's shown a little more composure in both fixtures, we would have beaten Cross, having matched them throughout the field for 120 minutes. Had we managed that, Rangers would have gone 2 years without the title and their aura of invincibility would have been very much shaken. Now, having breezed through Armagh as All Ireland champions, an era of parity in Armagh football seems as far away as ever.
What you are saying doesn't make sense. Yes St Pat's, The Og's even Sarsfields can match and even beat Cross on any given day. But I see no evidence to suggest that they would not return as strong as ever next time out. Look at their league results. It is time that Armagh Clubs stop bitching jealously about Cross and start to replicate their approach to football and club development.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 18, 2011, 01:29:42 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 18, 2011, 01:05:29 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 17, 2011, 10:52:40 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on October 17, 2011, 09:03:21 PM
Can the success of the Cross football team in some way be attributed to the Political situation in the North and the location of Barracks right in the middle of the village?
Along the same lines of how the Catholic Church had a roaring trade when it was dangerous to be a Catholic? GAA became part of an Irish identity to be flaunted in the face of the British on your doorstep maybe?
I wonder will things change as today's younger kids come up through under age and aren't affected by the same pressures???

Not taking anything away from the team or the town, just pondering the reasons why.......

No that has nothing to do with it in my view. Crossmaglen was very little different to the rest of South Armagh in terms of the British occupation. Their main advantage is simply that they are the greastest population centre in a part of the world where there is very little competition from other sports. Beyond that, the reasons for their success are merely sporting, a superb crop of players coming together under an excellent manager and an excellent conveyer belt of young talent being brought into a culture of success.

I suspect the whole of Armagh may rue the fact that we didn't get the better of Crossmaglen last year. Biased though I may be, my view is that if St Pat's shown a little more composure in both fixtures, we would have beaten Cross, having matched them throughout the field for 120 minutes. Had we managed that, Rangers would have gone 2 years without the title and their aura of invincibility would have been very much shaken. Now, having breezed through Armagh as All Ireland champions, an era of parity in Armagh football seems as far away as ever.
What you are saying doesn't make sense. Yes St Pat's, The Og's even Sarsfields can match and even beat Cross on any given day. But I see no evidence to suggest that they would not return as strong as ever next time out. Look at their league results. It is time that Armagh Clubs stop bitching jealously about Cross and start to replicate their approach to football and club development.

If you are unable to distinguish between "bitching jealously" and the rational point I was making, then there's not really a whole pile of point in explaining it to you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on October 18, 2011, 01:56:56 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 18, 2011, 01:29:42 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on October 18, 2011, 01:05:29 PM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on October 17, 2011, 10:52:40 PM
Quote from: The Iceman on October 17, 2011, 09:03:21 PM
Can the success of the Cross football team in some way be attributed to the Political situation in the North and the location of Barracks right in the middle of the village?
Along the same lines of how the Catholic Church had a roaring trade when it was dangerous to be a Catholic? GAA became part of an Irish identity to be flaunted in the face of the British on your doorstep maybe?
I wonder will things change as today's younger kids come up through under age and aren't affected by the same pressures???

Not taking anything away from the team or the town, just pondering the reasons why.......

No that has nothing to do with it in my view. Crossmaglen was very little different to the rest of South Armagh in terms of the British occupation. Their main advantage is simply that they are the greastest population centre in a part of the world where there is very little competition from other sports. Beyond that, the reasons for their success are merely sporting, a superb crop of players coming together under an excellent manager and an excellent conveyer belt of young talent being brought into a culture of success.

I suspect the whole of Armagh may rue the fact that we didn't get the better of Crossmaglen last year. Biased though I may be, my view is that if St Pat's shown a little more composure in both fixtures, we would have beaten Cross, having matched them throughout the field for 120 minutes. Had we managed that, Rangers would have gone 2 years without the title and their aura of invincibility would have been very much shaken. Now, having breezed through Armagh as All Ireland champions, an era of parity in Armagh football seems as far away as ever.
What you are saying doesn't make sense. Yes St Pat's, The Og's even Sarsfields can match and even beat Cross on any given day. But I see no evidence to suggest that they would not return as strong as ever next time out. Look at their league results. It is time that Armagh Clubs stop bitching jealously about Cross and start to replicate their approach to football and club development.

If you are unable to distinguish between "bitching jealously" and the rational point I was making, then there's not really a whole pile of point in explaining it to you.
The bitching comment wasn't aimed directly at you but others, however if Cross's aura of invincibility was going to crumble then the time was when Og's beat them...I just think they have more about them, and a bit like Kerry at County level they just keep reinventing themselves. ANd I really do think it is down to the Club and its environment. As a neutral I would love to see every hurling and football club in the county with the same focus.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 18, 2011, 04:17:47 PM
QuoteBiased though I may be, my view is that if St Pat's shown a little more composure in both fixtures, we would have beaten Cross, having matched them throughout the field for 120 minutes. Had we managed that, Rangers would have gone 2 years without the title and their aura of invincibility would have been very much shaken

Cross didn't play especially well in Armagh last year, they really only clicked into gear against Galls, and Cullyhanna could heave beaten them. This might have damaged their aura of invincibility. But if anything they have further improved this year and that improved performance would still have beaten teams, probably beaten them well, so it would not have had a long lasting effect.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on October 18, 2011, 05:11:24 PM
Lads, are Cross consistently participating in 'A'/Grade 1/Division 1 U-12, U-14, U-16 and Minor Finals within Armagh?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 18, 2011, 09:47:44 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 18, 2011, 05:11:24 PM
Lads, are Cross consistently participating in 'A'/Grade 1/Division 1 U-12, U-14, U-16 and Minor Finals within Armagh?

Finals at underage level are a bit more evenly spread out. Cross have a system though of bringing at least 3-4 players through from underage each year which keeps it ticking over
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on October 20, 2011, 10:41:11 AM
Quote from: ogshead on October 18, 2011, 09:47:44 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 18, 2011, 05:11:24 PM
Lads, are Cross consistently participating in 'A'/Grade 1/Division 1 U-12, U-14, U-16 and Minor Finals within Armagh?

Finals at underage level are a bit more evenly spread out. Cross have a system though of bringing at least 3-4 players through from underage each year which keeps it ticking over

very true cross are competing at grade 1/a what ever way you want to put it at all under-age levels, you can talk about attitude etc but what they have done, is created a Culture, they have a blueprint for all the teams to follow from under-age right up to senior, so no matter if they are winning leagues or championships at under-age every team is still producing 3/4 players every year that are military trained in their style of play, its almost being like born into Catholicism, its bred into them. players are warned of their off-field activities, everything is about the club. they have the same man at u16 for 10 odd years. they have become the gold standard. how many other teams/clubs would have left a player of aaron kernans ability on the bench for a championship semi-final because he hadnt trained the week before it, you either do it the cross way or your out on ur arse, and it doesnt matter who u ar!!!


as regards the harps, 5 minors in 9 years is a great achievement, throw in an u21 title as well, but heres the problem, too many players and i include myself in this havent had the balls/commitment to really make a difference, the lure of a pint and a nights craic was my problem, i always took the easy option, our 03 team which won the ulster club as well, nippy, vernon, smackers, wee joe and simon lennon are the only ones that spring to mind still playing senior football.

IMO we need to have a structure in place from underage to senior, the talent is undoubtedly there, as in the ogs and other clubs, so to really compete other clubs need make hard decisions and get the ball rolling...

the ogs may sneak the odd champioship, harps are 3/4 years from the 09 team, congrats to the nab on the improvement lads and keep the heads up cross have done that to many teams, the template is there for all the clubs and the barometer is cross, how many will step up... 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on October 20, 2011, 12:07:51 PM
Quote from: topgun on October 20, 2011, 10:41:11 AM
Quote from: ogshead on October 18, 2011, 09:47:44 PM
Quote from: DownFanatic on October 18, 2011, 05:11:24 PM
Lads, are Cross consistently participating in 'A'/Grade 1/Division 1 U-12, U-14, U-16 and Minor Finals within Armagh?

Finals at underage level are a bit more evenly spread out. Cross have a system though of bringing at least 3-4 players through from underage each year which keeps it ticking over

very true cross are competing at grade 1/a what ever way you want to put it at all under-age levels, you can talk about attitude etc but what they have done, is created a Culture, they have a blueprint for all the teams to follow from under-age right up to senior, so no matter if they are winning leagues or championships at under-age every team is still producing 3/4 players every year that are military trained in their style of play, its almost being like born into Catholicism, its bred into them. players are warned of their off-field activities, everything is about the club. they have the same man at u16 for 10 odd years. they have become the gold standard. how many other teams/clubs would have left a player of aaron kernans ability on the bench for a championship semi-final because he hadnt trained the week before it, you either do it the cross way or your out on ur arse, and it doesnt matter who u ar!!!


as regards the harps, 5 minors in 9 years is a great achievement, throw in an u21 title as well, but heres the problem, too many players and i include myself in this havent had the balls/commitment to really make a difference, the lure of a pint and a nights craic was my problem, i always took the easy option, our 03 team which won the ulster club as well, nippy, vernon, smackers, wee joe and simon lennon are the only ones that spring to mind still playing senior football.

IMO we need to have a structure in place from underage to senior, the talent is undoubtedly there, as in the ogs and other clubs, so to really compete other clubs need make hard decisions and get the ball rolling...

the ogs may sneak the odd champioship, harps are 3/4 years from the 09 team, congrats to the nab on the improvement lads and keep the heads up cross have done that to many teams, the template is there for all the clubs and the barometer is cross, how many will step up...
Precisely.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2011, 08:58:31 AM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 22, 2011, 01:39:56 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 22, 2011, 08:58:31 AM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 23, 2011, 09:05:11 PM
Anyone know how Armagh faired against Cavan today?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carbery on October 23, 2011, 09:09:11 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 23, 2011, 09:05:11 PM
Anyone know how Armagh faired against Cavan today?

Fitzsimons Cup: Armagh overcome Cavan
23 October 2011

Armagh 3-11
Cavan 1-16

Armagh overcame the challenge of Cavan in the Fitszimons Cup, a senior intercounty football competition organised by the Gaeil Colmcille club, at a wet Pairc Tailteann.

Mickey Brennan put Cavan on the scoreboard first and after ten minutes the Breffni men led 0-4 to 0-0. Armagh's opening score was a well taken goal from half foward Sean Moore. The accurate free taking of Cavan full foward Ray Galligan and some fine scores from Brennan and Niall McDermott insured that the led at the break 0-9 to 1-4.

Galligan put more daylight between the sides when he flicked a Dane O'Dowd pass to the Armagh net to leave the score 1-9 to 1-4. But Armagh battled hard to get back into the game and a goal from Eugene McVerry left the minimum between the sides.Points from half backs Mark Shields, Aidan Forker and Michael Stevenson brought Armagh to within a point again 2-8 to 1-12. A second goal from McVerry had Paddy O'Rourke's men ahead 3-8 to 1-13 with ten minutes left. A Galligan free levelled the match 1-14 to 3-8. But Armagh finished the stronger and points from Brian Mallon and substitutes Paul Carville and Conor White put the Orchard County men into the final where they will met Meath.

Armagh: Ryan Magennis, David Lavery, Declan McKenna, Adrian Conlon, Mark Shields (0-1), Aidan Forker (0-1), Michael Stevenson (0-1), James Donnelly, James Lavery, Pauric Gribben, Brian Mallon (0-1), Sean Moore (1-1), Eugene McVerry (2-0), Stefan Forker(0-3), Stefan Campbell.
Subs: Sean Hughes, Ryan Rafferty, Paul Carvill (0-2), Conor White (0-1)

Cavan: Fintan Reilly, Oisin Minagh, Sean McCormack, Daragh Tighe, Barry Watters, Joey Jordan, Dane O'Dowd, Ray Cullivan, Declan McKiernan, Stephen Jordan, Declan Meehan, Michael Brennan (0-3), Niall McDermott (0-2), Ray Galligan (1-10), Conor McClarry (0-1).
Subs: Barry Tully and Kieran Galligan

Referee Joey Curley Meath

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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 23, 2011, 10:45:41 PM
Next Question - where are those boys from?

Ryan Magennis
David Lavery
Declan McKenna - Harps
Adrian Conlon
Mark Shields
Aidan Forker - Maghery?
Michael Stevenson - Sarsfields?
James Donnelly
James Lavery - Maghery
Pauric Gribben
Brian Mallon - Tir na Og
Sean Moore
Eugene McVerry - Mullaghbawn?
Stefan Forker - Maghery
Stefan Campbell

Subs: Sean Hughes, Ryan Rafferty, Paul Carvill, Conor White
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mountainboii on October 23, 2011, 11:20:38 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 23, 2011, 10:45:41 PM
Next Question - where are those boys from?

Ryan Magennis - Clans?
David Lavery - Maghery?
Declan McKenna - Harps
Adrian Conlon Tullysaran?
Mark Shields - Whitecross
Aidan Forker - Maghery?
Michael Stevenson - Sarsfields?
James Donnelly - Killeavy
James Lavery - Maghery
Pauric Gribben - Ballymacnab
Brian Mallon - Tir na Og
Sean Moore - Ogs
Eugene McVerry - Mullaghbawn?
Stefan Forker - Maghery
Stefan Campbell - Clans

Subs: Sean Hughes - Ballymacnab?, Ryan Rafferty - Granemore, Paul Carvill - Tir na Og?, Conor White - Harps
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Midman on October 24, 2011, 02:07:54 PM
PS congratulations to the Middletown Hurlers, Ulster Intermediate champions!

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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 24, 2011, 02:39:32 PM
Quote from: Midman on October 24, 2011, 02:07:54 PM
PS congratulations to the Middletown Hurlers, Ulster Intermediate champions!

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=156918


Great achievement, They have wiped the floor with everyone this year, Anyone know what they'll be up against in the semi's.

Middletown were traditionally strong up the middle and would get you into a dog eat dog battle and grind you down, but this team is full of quality skillfull hurlers that can do a lot of damage, and the majority of them are 19-25 bracket.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 24, 2011, 03:41:29 PM
TO TACADOIRARDMHACHA

Re your post of 17th Oct

Your point that our success is as a result of a superb batch of players coming along at the same time is quite a valid one although it is hardly a coincidence that this is the second batch of superb players that have come along in the past 15 years.

Your earlier assertion in the same post that our success was in some way due to the population of Cross and the absence of other sports is rather simplistic.
Cross has a population of 1800 and has had a soccer team ( Cartwheel United ) for the past 25 years.

In County Monaghan towns of similar size and population, Carrickmacross and Clones, have not won the senior championship in over 50 years

In Derry, Dungiven has 3 times the population of either Bellaghy or Ballinderry and yet they have only won i senior title in the past 20 years whilst the other 2 have won 6 each.

How can you explain the lack of success by Strabane where there is nationalist population of 20,000
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 25, 2011, 12:22:15 AM
Quote from: crossfire on October 24, 2011, 03:41:29 PM
TO TACADOIRARDMHACHA

Re your post of 17th Oct

Your point that our success is as a result of a superb batch of players coming along at the same time is quite a valid one although it is hardly a coincidence that this is the second batch of superb players that have come along in the past 15 years.

Your earlier assertion in the same post that our success was in some way due to the population of Cross and the absence of other sports is rather simplistic.
Cross has a population of 1800 and has had a soccer team ( Cartwheel United ) for the past 25 years.

In County Monaghan towns of similar size and population, Carrickmacross and Clones, have not won the senior championship in over 50 years

In Derry, Dungiven has 3 times the population of either Bellaghy or Ballinderry and yet they have only won i senior title in the past 20 years whilst the other 2 have won 6 each.

How can you explain the lack of success by Strabane where there is nationalist population of 20,000

Drink, Drugs, soccer, rugby, women and vandalism...and who would seriously like to play for Carthorse Utd FFS ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 25, 2011, 01:53:23 AM
They would probably beat Clans. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 25, 2011, 04:03:47 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 24, 2011, 02:39:32 PM
Quote from: Midman on October 24, 2011, 02:07:54 PM
PS congratulations to the Middletown Hurlers, Ulster Intermediate champions!

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=156918


Great achievement, They have wiped the floor with everyone this year, Anyone know what they'll be up against in the semi's.

Middletown were traditionally strong up the middle and would get you into a dog eat dog battle and grind you down, but this team is full of quality skillfull hurlers that can do a lot of damage, and the majority of them are 19-25 bracket.

Yes watched them beat a very fancied Lamh Dhearg team in the semi final, in fairness they wouldn't have much quality but what they lacked in natural skills they made up in sheer strength and determination.

From the very start I was fearfull for the Lamhs team. The big fullforward won most balls that came in, but lost out when trying to off load them to other players. They also missed a lot of shots when on their own and their free taking could have lost them the match on it's own!!
But Lamh's couldn't get to grips with them and fair play to Middletown, I believe they will play Munster opposition, as long as there is no quarter final game against our English friends.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 25, 2011, 11:14:28 PM
Quote from: crossfire on October 25, 2011, 01:53:23 AM
They would probably beat Clans. :)

I was only explaining the lack of success from Strabane...no need for the smart arse remarks, or was that because i belittled Crossmaglen's soccer team ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DearyMe on October 26, 2011, 01:00:24 PM
Thoughts on Cross v Galls?

Asked similar question before Armagh county final in relation to Ballymc!  Some on here gave them a chance!!!

Are Cross this good?  should Galls be afeared???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on October 27, 2011, 09:12:34 AM
Cross should win by 2 or 3. But don't rule St Gall's out as other factors on the day such as weather and home advantage can come in to it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DearyMe on October 27, 2011, 11:38:50 AM
Had fancied Cross myself - think i'm getting caught up in the media now, beginning to favour Galls!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on October 27, 2011, 05:10:13 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 27, 2011, 11:38:50 AM
Had fancied Cross myself - think i'm getting caught up in the media now, beginning to favour Galls!

How good do you think Cross are? Take that multiply by about 100 and thats how good they are!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 27, 2011, 06:31:05 PM
Quote from: pearseog on October 27, 2011, 05:10:13 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 27, 2011, 11:38:50 AM
Had fancied Cross myself - think i'm getting caught up in the media now, beginning to favour Galls!

How good do you think Cross are? Take that multiply by about 100 and thats how good they are!

:D

Severe lack of interest in all levels of teams playing in the Ulster.  No one interested how our county champs will do?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on October 27, 2011, 07:47:14 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 27, 2011, 06:31:05 PM
Quote from: pearseog on October 27, 2011, 05:10:13 PM
Quote from: DearyMe on October 27, 2011, 11:38:50 AM
Had fancied Cross myself - think i'm getting caught up in the media now, beginning to favour Galls!

How good do you think Cross are? Take that multiply by about 100 and thats how good they are!

:D

Severe lack of interest in all levels of teams playing in the Ulster.  No one interested how our county champs will do?

It just gets too bring when it is Cross! ;D

On a serious note I hope Cross wipe the flour with St Galls. They are doing far too much crying for my liking and I personally think letting it be known in the media that they have objected to the referee is very poor form. If I was him - or any referee taking his place - I would give St. Galls nothing on Sunday. I read a number of reports on last years match and they say St. Galls greatest fault was trying to match Cross physically. It appears that some of them are blaming Joe McQuillan for them getting beat. We all know that Cross are no angels but they are nowhere near as bad as they used to be. ;D

From a County point of view it may not do any harm for Cross to get beat. Then we may get players like Morgan and McKenna getting some game time for the county before the championship. Still Cross won't care.

Best of luck Cross. Also best of luck Cullaville and Eire Og. I think I will give the Athletic grounds a visit on Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 27, 2011, 09:17:03 PM
QuoteAlso best of luck Cullaville and Eire Og. I think I will give the Athletic grounds a visit on Sunday.

its a pity that Cullaville is on at the same time as the Casement game.

Ladbrokes have lots of odds for the Cross game. If you fancy Rangers chances then 3/2 for Cross half time and full time might be of interest, or nearly evens for Cross -1.



Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2011, 11:21:39 PM
Those are two great bets.

Should Cross win the toss and play with the wind then it would be cast iron bet. Though they need to win the toss, Cross are a great second half team, i think it will be more than minus 1 also.

Be a shame to miss Throw Ball
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on October 28, 2011, 01:01:43 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 27, 2011, 11:21:39 PM
Those are two great bets.

Should Cross win the toss and play with the wind then it would be cast iron bet. Though they need to win the toss, Cross are a great second half team, i think it will be more than minus 1 also.

Be a shame to miss Throw Ball

Probably right but the problem is at my age the eyesight isn't good enough, and I am not quick enough, to catch all the off the ball stuff! :D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on October 28, 2011, 08:17:39 AM
I will be stewarding on Sunday in Armagh Throwball, I will watch out for you and look after your old and infirm body. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on October 29, 2011, 10:35:08 PM
Best of luck to Culloville and Eire Og in their Ulster Championship games tomorrow.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 30, 2011, 12:54:09 PM
Good luck to all our county representitives today
Senior - Crossmaglen
Intermediate - Culloville
Junior - Eire og

Make sure we get the treble
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2011, 10:44:03 AM
Good luck to the 3 Armagh teams this weekend. Its a shame that PK and Johnny are not fit but I think the squad is strong enough. It would be some achievement to have all 3 in Ulster finals in one season!  Here's hoping!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: screenexile on November 11, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2011, 10:44:03 AM
Good luck to the 3 Armagh teams this weekend. Its a shame that PK and Johnny are not fit but I think the squad is strong enough. It would be some achievement to have all 3 in Ulster finals in one season!  Here's hoping!

Good to see you're still towing the party line after being away so long bc1 . . . you're a credit!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on November 11, 2011, 11:23:25 AM
I'm surprised there's been no comment on Down poaching Conor Gough.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 11, 2011, 12:21:31 PM
Good luck to the Armagh clubs this weekend
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2011, 12:48:50 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 11, 2011, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 11, 2011, 10:44:03 AM
Good luck to the 3 Armagh teams this weekend. Its a shame that PK and Johnny are not fit but I think the squad is strong enough. It would be some achievement to have all 3 in Ulster finals in one season!  Here's hoping!

Good to see you're still towing the party line after being away so long bc1 . . . you're a credit!!

To paraphrase Gerry, I never went away ye know :D  But really we'll see who is playing Sunday and then you'll see if I was towing the party line and you can throw it in my face then!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on November 11, 2011, 06:10:28 PM
Best of luck to all Armagh teams this weekend. Let's hope the referees have stormers too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 15, 2011, 09:49:56 PM
Clans U21s beat Cross 0-11 to 1-7 tonight at the Athletic Grounds. Entertaining game in slippy conditions which Clans led from start to finish, with a few scares inbetween.

Semi-finals are Ballymacnab v Maghery and Clans v Cullyhanna
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 15, 2011, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 15, 2011, 09:49:56 PM
Clans U21s beat Cross 0-11 to 1-7 tonight at the Athletic Grounds. Entertaining game in slippy conditions which Clans led from start to finish, with a few scares inbetween.

Semi-finals are Ballymacnab v Maghery and Clans v Cullyhanna

Congratulations to Clans. Double-header in Athletic Grounds on Sunday? Were the fixtures announced at the match tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on November 16, 2011, 07:47:01 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 15, 2011, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 15, 2011, 09:49:56 PM
Clans U21s beat Cross 0-11 to 1-7 tonight at the Athletic Grounds. Entertaining game in slippy conditions which Clans led from start to finish, with a few scares inbetween.

Semi-finals are Ballymacnab v Maghery and Clans v Cullyhanna

Congratulations to Clans. Double-header in Athletic Grounds on Sunday? Were the fixtures announced at the match tonight?
The PA wasn't on so there was no mention, though someone did say to me 11.30 on Sunday. Not sure how reliable that is.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 16, 2011, 11:08:28 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 16, 2011, 07:47:01 AM
Quote from: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 15, 2011, 11:32:32 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on November 15, 2011, 09:49:56 PM
Clans U21s beat Cross 0-11 to 1-7 tonight at the Athletic Grounds. Entertaining game in slippy conditions which Clans led from start to finish, with a few scares inbetween.

Semi-finals are Ballymacnab v Maghery and Clans v Cullyhanna

Congratulations to Clans. Double-header in Athletic Grounds on Sunday? Were the fixtures announced at the match tonight?
The PA wasn't on so there was no mention, though someone did say to me 11.30 on Sunday. Not sure how reliable that is.

I'd say that's the most likely anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on November 16, 2011, 02:05:11 PM
The athletic grounds has the Ulster Junior Hurling Final Replay Burt v Creggan, which is due to be followed by Burren v Latton senior semi final on sunday
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on November 16, 2011, 10:08:17 PM
QuoteThe athletic grounds has the Ulster Junior Hurling Final Replay Burt v Creggan, which is due to be followed by Burren v Latton senior semi final on sunday

You might see a few Cross' folk at the second game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Up The Blues :) on November 16, 2011, 11:33:04 PM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 17, 2011, 10:01:13 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 16, 2011, 10:08:17 PM
QuoteThe athletic grounds has the Ulster Junior Hurling Final Replay Burt v Creggan, which is due to be followed by Burren v Latton senior semi final on sunday

You might see a few Cross' folk at the second game.

You might not!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 17, 2011, 07:33:32 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 16, 2011, 10:08:17 PM
QuoteThe athletic grounds has the Ulster Junior Hurling Final Replay Burt v Creggan, which is due to be followed by Burren v Latton senior semi final on sunday

You might see a few Cross' folk at the second game.

We are upper Creggan. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on November 17, 2011, 08:45:49 PM
QuoteWe are upper Creggan.

Creggan Superior as they say in Latin, as distinct from Creggan Inferior.

Anyhow I'll be a cross man if Burren don't win, as I put a few pound on them to reach the final. The better they play the easier they will be to lay off.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thewanderer on November 18, 2011, 04:36:13 PM
st pats v clans on the best pitch surface in armagh for this time of the year PEARSE OG PARK at 11.30am on sunday. hope you's lads are on ur best behaviour lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on November 19, 2011, 03:05:18 AM
Quote from: thewanderer on November 18, 2011, 04:36:13 PM
st pats v clans on the best pitch surface in armagh for this time of the year PEARSE OG PARK at 11.30am on sunday. hope you's lads are on ur best behaviour lol

They always are. ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on November 20, 2011, 05:54:49 PM
Under 21 Championship Semi-final: St Patrick's 2-16 Clan na Gael 1-12 AET

If last week's victory over Harps thanks to a late goal was exciting, then even greater superlatives are needed to describe this thrilling and enthralling match played in good conditions at Pearse Ogs Park on Sunday morning. Although the game was to develop into an epic encounter, it began very much with a whimper for a Cullyhanna side who struggled to settle in the early stages and indeed throughout the first half. A long range Clan na Gael pointed free opened the scoring after 6 minutes although this score was matched by St Pat's two minutes later when Conor Nugent pointed after a foul on Colm Hoey. However this was to be Cullyhanna's solitary score in the opening 28 minutes of the match as Clan na Gael began to dominate, managing five unanswered points to register a commanding advantage. St Pat's finally managed their second point two minutes before the break when Aidan Nugent reacted well to retrieve a ball heading wide before recycling to Rory O'Neill who fired over the bar. St Pat's had the opportunity to narrow the half-time gap to just three when Colm Hoey was hauled to the ground at the end of an inspirational 30 yard run but unfortunately the resultant free dropped short to leave the half-time score - Clan na Gael 0-6 St Patrick's 0-2. In fairness, the score at the break was a reasonable reflection of a first half which was dominated by a more experienced Clan na Gael team as St Patrick's struggled to retain possession in the forward line and found scoring opportunities difficult to come by.

It was a generally accepted wisdom at half-time that St Pat's needed a good start to the second period but that appeared to be eluding them as Clans managed the first point of the half and a number of scoreable opportunities for Cullyhanna went astray. Nine minutes into the half Conor Nugent pointed a free to reduce the deficit to four. Cullyhanna needed a change of emphasis and this came from Gareth Mackin who moved from midfield to the edge of the square. This shrewd tactical switch soon paid dividends as a high hopeful ball from Colm Hoey was won on the edge of the square by Mackin who passed to Conor Nugent. Despite severe pressure, Conor Nugent managed to squeeze the ball to the net for a much needed goal which brought Cullyhanna right back into the match. Soon after, St Pat's were level as Cathal McGlade intercepted a Clan na Gael kick out before playing a ball forward to Conor Nugent who flicked on to Gareth Mackin who kicked a point. At this stage, St Pat's had the momentum and were playing with great amounts of confidence. The Cullyhanna men took the lead for the first time with fifteen minutes to go when Conor Nugent attempted a shot from an outrageous angle. No doubt most in the ground would have understandably believed a point to be impossible from his location so close to the touchline but young Nugent produced a magnificent effort with the outside of his foot to send the ball sailing over the bar.

The St Pat's lead was not to last long however with Clan na Gael equalising a minute later thanks to a pointed free. With 11 minutes left, St Pat's led again when a quick free from Tony Donnelly allowed Colm Hoey to point. Colm Hoey extended his side's advantage two minutes later as he profited from an Aidan Nugent pass after a great catch at midfield to kick a fine score. Although St Pat's led by two points heading into the latter stages, Clan na Gael were far from finished and dug in to register a brace of points, one from a free, which brought the sides level again. With 29 minutes played, Clan na Gael were awarded a free just within shooting range which looked like it could hand the Lurgan men victory. However the free dropped short and suddenly St Pat's were on the counter-attack. Aidan Nugent found Rory O'Neill who kicked over what appeared to the winning point. As was expected Clan na Gael attacked in droves attempting to fashion an equalising score but were repelled on numerous occasions. Darren Mackin looked to have made a matching winning tackle on one occasion yet the game carried on. St Pat's did have an opportunity to secure victory with another point but unfortunately the ball was kicked into the goalkeeper's hands when a wide ball may have ended the match. At the time, most onlookers presumed that the final whistle was imminent yet Clan na Gael were permitted to launch a further attack. A full three and a half minutes into injury time, Clan na Gael were awarded a very debateable free in front of goal following what appeared to be a fair challenge for the ball. The kick was converted and the whistle blown for full-time to ensure that extra-time would be required.

If the St Pat's side were affected by the disappointment of the final stages of normal time, they certainly did not let it show, making a perfect start to extra time with a Gareth Mackin point after he reacted quickest to a breaking ball in attack. Tony Donnelly increased the lead to two with a good score and then, 6 minutes into extra time, Gareth Mackin broke the ball expertly in the penalty area which allowed Conor Nugent to collect and tap over a point. Although it seemed that St Pat's were finally pulling away, suddenly Clan na Gael found a way back into the match, reacting quickest to the rebound when a shot hit the crossbar to register a seemingly vital equalising goal.  There were no further scores in the first half of extra time which ended with the side level on 1-11 apiece.

It took less than a minute of the second half for St Pat's to regain their lead as Cathal McGlade produced a lung-bursting run before kicking a superb score from distance. As the match ebbed and flowed, it took a magnificent diving block from Eoin McArdle to prevent a Clan na Gael goal. St Pat's edged further into the lead as Conor Nugent profited from a Rory O'Neill pass to fist a point but predictably Clan na Gael fought back with a pointed free. As this classic encounter neared its conclusion, the defining moment of this magnificent struggle arrived when a long ball from Micky Murray was gathered well in front of goal by Rory O'Neill. O'Neill turned his marker with intentions only for the net and, although possession of the ball appeared to have been forfeited, he retained his composure and calmly stroked the loose ball into the net to send the Cullyhanna support into raptures. Although Clan na Gael had shown great spirit throughout the match, their resolve was finally broken as Aidan Nugent tagged on two vital points in the minutes following the goal to ensure his side's progress. A now rampant St Pat's side dominated the closing stages with a Gareth Mackin point two minutes from time putting seven points between the sides. The final whistle was met with great joy by all of Cullyhanna as St Pat's triumphed on a scoreline of St Patrick's 2-16 Clan na Gael 1-12

This was utterly absorbing encounter and was surely as enjoyable a contest as has been seen on the playing fields of Armagh in 2011. Both sides played their part in what was a thoroughly enjoyable game of football. Having made such a mundane start, Cullyhanna's transformation in the final 20 minutes of the second half and throughout extra time was remarkable. This may be a young side but it is a team of great character, skill and fitness and crucially a sense of belief instilled in them by an excellent management team. This team have focussed not on the long list of players unavailable but rather on their own abilities and have reaped the benefits of doing so. The real challenge however lies not in making a final but in going on to win it and despite the heroics of the past fortnight, there is no doubt that the most difficult match lies ahead. The team as a whole performed superbly with Micky Murray and Eoin McArdle magnificent in defence. Gareth Mackin made a superb contribution when placed on the edge of the square, often causing havoc in the Clan na Gael defence while Rory O'Neill continued his very useful habit of registering vital scores at vital times. Cathal McGlade was superb in the second half while the man of the match was probably Colm Hoey who was immense throughout, torturing the Clan na Gael side with his excellent positional play and heroic bursts from defence, not to mention his scoring ability from half-back. We understand that the under 21 Championship final will take place on the weekend of 3rd or 4th December but members should check the local press for confirmed details.

Starting XV: Deaglan McArdle; Ciaran McCooey, Darren Mackin, Micky Murray; Colm Hoey (0-2), Eoin McArdle, Neil Donnelly; Pearse Casey, Gareth Mackin (0-3); Rory O'Neill (1-2), Tony Donnelly (0-1), Kevin Hoey; Cathal McGlade (0-1), Aidan Nugent (0-2), Conor Nugent (1-5) Sub Used: Owen Carragher
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: QUB GAA Research on November 21, 2011, 01:45:51 PM
Hi Everyone,

I am a final year student at QUB, and as part of my course I am required to undertake a group piece of research.
We have chosen to do this on the GAA, and the different reasons on player drop-our rates post age 18 between rural and urban areas.

We would be very greatfull if you could take the time to fill out the survey below (it will literally only take 2 minutes).

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We've got some great feedback so far, and I think the users on this message board can add valuable contributions to the study.
Please feel free to comment/make sussestions on our thread (below) or on the survey about the topic.

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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on December 04, 2011, 06:20:31 PM
Armagh Under 21 Championship Final: St Patrick's 0-10 Maghery 0-9

The under 21 championship reached its thrilling conclusion on a bitterly cold Sunday afternoon as St Pat's faced Maghery at the Athletic Grounds. Conditions at headquarters were as good as could be expected given the time of year and both sides went about their task in a whole-hearted, honest and fair manner. I'm not sure if any team has ever played in two under 21 finals in the same calendar year before but certainly St Pat's entered the game wanting to put right the disappointment of February's reversal to Crossmaglen Rangers.

It was to be Maghery who started the brighter however with two early points in the third and fourth minutes, the former coming from a free. The opening exchanges were fairly even with Cullyhanna registering their first score after 6 minutes, thanks to a good point from Rory O'Neill. O'Neill was on the scoresheet again when a foul on Colm Hoey allowed him to level matters with a pointed free. St Pat's forged into the lead 13 minutes in thanks to an audacious effort from Conor Nugent who pointed from what appeared to be a prohibitive angle.  In the second quarter, St Pat's had by far the better of the possession and territory however they found scores hard to come by and largely failed to utilise fully their dominance. A Sean Connell pass found Cathal McGlade who kicked a fine point to put his side two ahead. Maghery remained dangerous however, largely through their full forward Aiden Forker who made good use of a quality pass on 23 minutes to cut the deficit to a single point. A Rory O'Neill pointed free three minutes before the break put two between the sides again however the half-time lead could have been greater had a Kevin Hoey goal effort not been blocked by the Maghery goalkeeper. At half-time the score stood at St Patrick's 0-5 Maghery 0-3. Such a slender advantage was certainly a concern for the Cullyhanna following who were well aware that the lead should have been greater and that an improved second half performance from Maghery was to be expected.

The slender nature of the Cullyhanna lead was highlighted by the fact that it took a mere six minutes for Maghery to not only cancel out the deficit, but take the lead themselves as two superb points from Aiden Forker levelled matters before another point after St Pat's had needlessly lost the ball coming out of defence put the Loughshore men into the lead. Losing their lead appeared to finally stir the Cullyhanna side as they responded in style, initially through Conor Nugent who fired over a score after a St Pat's attack appeared to have broken down. Between the 17th and 19th minutes of the second half came what appeared to be a match winning salvo as a superbly flighted long ball from Tony Donnelly found Kyle McEvoy on the edge of the square who tapped over a lovely point to put his team into the lead. Next Gareth Mackin cut inside a Maghery defender and kicked a point and a minute later, Rory O'Neill produced a lung-bursting solo run along the sideline before driving inside and kicking a magnificent individual score. Having opened up the first three point advantage of the match with only 11 minutes remaining, it looked good for Cullyhanna however Maghery had no plans to meekly accept their fate. A pointed free cut the gap to two before a long range Maghery effort reduced the lead to the minimum. With six minutes remaining, Maghery kicked a point to level the match. The momentum was by now very much with the North Armagh men who were probably favourites to win at this stage. With four minutes remaining, Maghery fashioned an excellent scoring opportunity but just as the forward looked certain to kick a point, Eoin McArdle appeared from nowhere with a heroic block to smother the ball and prevent his side slipping behind. The game ebbed and flowed as each side attempted to fashion a winning opportunity however Cullyhanna's golden chance came as Cathal McGlade burst through the defence before being unceremoniously felled. The resultant free kick was no easy opportunity with Kyle McEvoy having a 30m kick to put his side into the lead. However McEvoy dealt with the pressure admirably and coolly slotted the ball between the posts to put his side in front. Maghery desperately pressed in injury time to find an equalising point, however their challenge ran aground while faced with the defensive abilities of Colm Hoey who produced two superb blocks in the later stages to secure victory for his side.

The final whistle was met with great delight by the Cullyhanna team management and supporters as St Patrick's finished winner by 0-10 to 0-9. Amid joyous scenes, captain Tony Donnelly accepted the cup on behalf of his team-mates and in his speech, thanked team managers Malachy Mackin and Stephen for their hard work, commitment and ability to instil belief in their charges.

The performances of this young team have been absolutely outstanding over the past month and have given the whole village a lift and provided a wonderfully entertaining conclusion to the season. While they certainly do not have a habit of making things easy for themselves,  St Pat's have richly deserved yesterday's triumph. To annex Cullyhanna's first under 21 championship victory for 19 years is a magnificent achievement and is testimony to the skill and courage of this outfit, as well as being a great reflection on the abilities of their managers who have secured a county title in their first venture into management. When faced with adversity, this side have consistently put their best foot forward and overcome all challenges and those attributes will serve them well in the years to come. While this was not a day for individuals, with each member of the team contributing handsomely, special mention should go to the superb half-back line and in particular Eoin McArdle and Colm Hoey for their defensive heroics in the second half and also to Pearse Casey who got through a mountain of work all day. Our congratulations to all involved.

Starting XV: Deaglan McArdle; Kieran McCooey, Darren Mackin, Michael Murray; Colm Hoey, Eoin McArdle, Sean Connell; Tony Donnelly, Pearse Casey; Rory O'Neill (0-4) Aidan Nugent, Kevin Hoey; Cathal McGlade (0-1), Gareth Mackin (0-1), Conor Nugent (0-2). Sub Used: Kyle McEvoy (0-2)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 1life 1club on December 14, 2011, 01:08:02 AM
RIP James Hughes.. Sad loss to cross rangers.. Respect for a born winner..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on December 28, 2011, 10:14:02 PM
I see Andrew Murnin has been playing for Lurgan Celtic.

Do any Crossmaglen Rangers play soccer?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 28, 2011, 10:18:46 PM
No. I do remember reading an article on Aaron Cunningham saying that they weren't allowed to indulge in anything other than CR GFC, or something to that effect.

Then again I also remember hearing AK was playing rugby with Banbridge in the off-season one year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on December 28, 2011, 11:06:59 PM
Quote from: AFS on December 28, 2011, 10:33:27 PM
Cross don't usually have an off-season.
I know. They almost definitely had one a few years ago though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 04, 2012, 01:36:05 PM
Q. Who is the second best player to spend the majority of his playing career on the injury list?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 04, 2012, 02:34:35 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 04, 2012, 01:36:05 PM
Q. Who is the second best player to spend the majority of his playing career on the injury list?

Preume RC is best?  Colm Hanratty was brilliant and regularly injured. Ollie Reel could have been a fine player but was a perma crock.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on January 05, 2012, 09:59:52 AM
Quote from: Orior on December 28, 2011, 10:14:02 PM
I see Andrew Murnin has been playing for Lurgan Celtic.



he should definitely be on the county panel,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 09, 2012, 01:22:49 PM
The jersey worn by Armagh yesterday was the worst I've seen (so it nearly matched out performance).

I'm grateful for Mr Morgan's generosity, but surely someone with an ounce of sense was involved in the design?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on January 09, 2012, 03:00:10 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 09, 2012, 01:22:49 PM
The jersey worn by Armagh yesterday was the worst I've seen (so it nearly matched out performance).

I'm grateful for Mr Morgan's generosity, but surely someone with an ounce of sense was involved in the design?
I'd be more worried about the performance, so much for the return of the prodigal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 09, 2012, 03:18:05 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on January 09, 2012, 03:00:10 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 09, 2012, 01:22:49 PM
The jersey worn by Armagh yesterday was the worst I've seen (so it nearly matched out performance).

I'm grateful for Mr Morgan's generosity, but surely someone with an ounce of sense was involved in the design?
I'd be more worried about the performance, so much for the return of the prodigal.

You can only play with the hand you're dealt with?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on January 09, 2012, 10:21:44 PM
What has the jersey to do with Mr.Morgan apart from his sponsorship? ???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 11, 2012, 10:11:28 AM
Jersey design has been awful since 2001 so we should be well used to it.

Bring back the collar.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on January 11, 2012, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 11, 2012, 10:11:28 AM
Jersey design has been awful since 2001 so we should be well used to it.

Bring back the collar.

I was not at the match but from the pictures the jersey looks more or less the same as the last one
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on January 11, 2012, 03:08:19 PM
Quote from: ogshead on January 11, 2012, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 11, 2012, 10:11:28 AM
Jersey design has been awful since 2001 so we should be well used to it.

Bring back the collar.

I was not at the match but from the pictures the jersey looks more or less the same as the last one
Its a shit colour of Orange, too light.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on January 12, 2012, 10:39:25 AM
Quote from: AFS on January 11, 2012, 05:54:41 PM
People used to complain that the last one was too dark, and looked almost red. Hard to please every one.
Certainly is but the last two jerseys have strayed from the traditional orange, this could be to do with the need to register a colour which other counties or clubs can't use. As an aside it's a pity the Morgan logo jersey worn by the team is only available to fans with connections. It's better than the replica.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 12, 2012, 11:49:31 AM
What annoys me is the blue and orange combination.

I much preferred when it said Morgan Fuels in black or white font.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2012, 10:41:10 AM
Haven't seen any word on this game anywhere on the Armagh threads, Middletown play Effin in the inter club hurling semi final this weekend. Best wishes on their match and i hope they do well. Up against a tough Limerick team but Middletown have certainly come on in recent years and this can only be good for Armagh hurling.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 21, 2012, 02:18:04 PM
I take it Middletown and Keady will both be senior next year? Who'll be intermediate in Armagh then? No one? Good luck to them anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on January 21, 2012, 02:48:28 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on January 21, 2012, 02:18:04 PM
I take it Middletown and Keady will both be senior next year? Who'll be intermediate in Armagh then? No one? Good luck to them anyway.
Cuhullains probably.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2012, 02:28:33 PM
Middletown doing well, winning the first half, 1-9 to 0-5.

Strong breeze to play against in second half though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on January 22, 2012, 02:43:41 PM
Apologies, but I've just seen this comment.

Quote from: Applesisapples on January 09, 2012, 03:00:10 PM
I'd be more worried about the performance, so much for the return of the prodigal.

I'd hazard a guess that if you're going to make a judgement about the 'prodigal' on the basis of the first match - a McKenna Cup game with half a team - then it's likely your opinion of the prodigal had already been formed, irrespective of any football played.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Kid Twist on January 22, 2012, 05:09:30 PM
How did Middleton game finish up?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: onefaircounty on January 22, 2012, 05:10:18 PM
Won handy.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2012, 05:11:37 PM
Won by 6 or 7, scored two goals in second half inside a minute which won it for them. Croke Park here they come
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on January 22, 2012, 05:13:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 22, 2012, 02:28:33 PM
Middletown doing well, winning the first half, 1-9 to 0-5.

Strong breeze to play against in second half though


Well done Middletown today!! great stuff!! To answer an earlier question... Keady and Middletown play for the right to enter the Ulster Senior Club Championship as well as win the Armagh Senior Championship but Cuchulianns are still able to compete in this as well. Difference is that if successful they can only enter Ulster Intermediate club Championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on January 23, 2012, 12:53:19 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on January 22, 2012, 02:43:41 PM
Apologies, but I've just seen this comment.

Quote from: Applesisapples on January 09, 2012, 03:00:10 PM
I'd be more worried about the performance, so much for the return of the prodigal.

I'd hazard a guess that if you're going to make a judgement about the 'prodigal' on the basis of the first match - a McKenna Cup game with half a team - then it's likely your opinion of the prodigal had already been formed, irrespective of any football played.
Quite the reverse, I have no issue with Paul Grimley, just the hype that surrounded his failure in the past to secure the main job. I will judge him and his influence on the way the team evolves this year. But a crucial indicator for me would be the return of Stephen Kernan to the panel given his form for Cross.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on January 25, 2012, 09:29:55 AM
RIP Isaac Henderson

A member of the 1953 Armagh team and winner of Clann Eireann's senior championship win in 1954
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on January 26, 2012, 12:40:43 PM
When is the Armagh championship draw being made.?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on January 26, 2012, 09:20:49 PM
The draws are being made on Wed 1st Feb at the Co.Board meeting.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on January 28, 2012, 09:01:10 PM
Will Peter Robinson be calling to the Ógs for a pint?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on January 29, 2012, 06:46:28 AM
He will not be having a pint in the Ogs,he had to scoot up the road to see old friends in Clontibret. ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 01, 2012, 10:10:04 PM
Senior championship draw

Nab v Clans
Clan Eireann v Culloville
Maghery v Whitecross
St Pats v Dromintee
Cross v Harps
Ogs v Granemore

Couple of cracking games there, St pats dromintee the pick of them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on February 01, 2012, 10:24:47 PM
From what I can gather the motion for 3 divisions has been passed tonight.

IFC - Shane O'Neill's v St Peter's, Killeavy v Middletown, Tir na nOg v Madden, Eire Og v Silverbridge, Keady v Grange. Bye - Wolfe Tones, Mullabawn, St Paul's.

JFC - Corringshego/O'Hanlon's v Forkhill, Ballyhegan v Killeavy II, Derrynoose v Dromintee II, Cullyhanna II v Tullysaran, Collegeland v Killean, Clady v Clonmore/Dorsey Emmetts, An Port Mor/Phelim Brady's v Cross II, Lissummon v Belleek/Annaghmore.

Onion Bag, I was following the official county board tweets, they first said Clann Eireann played Sarsfields and then said Clann Eireann had a bye. I think Culloville play Carrickcruppen.

Edit - Sarsfields got a bye, Clann Eireann play Culloville and Carrickcruppen play St Michael's.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 02, 2012, 08:24:38 AM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on February 01, 2012, 10:24:47 PM
From what I can gather the motion for 3 divisions has been passed tonight.

IFC - Shane O'Neill's v St Peter's, Killeavy v Middletown, Tir na nOg v Madden, Eire Og v Silverbridge, Keady v Grange. Bye - Wolfe Tones, Mullabawn, St Paul's.

JFC - Corringshego/O'Hanlon's v Forkhill, Ballyhegan v Killeavy II, Derrynoose v Dromintee II, Cullyhanna II v Tullysaran, Collegeland v Killean, Clady v Clonmore/Dorsey Emmetts, An Port Mor/Phelim Brady's v Cross II, Lissummon v Belleek/Annaghmore.

Onion Bag, I was following the official county board tweets, they first said Clann Eireann played Sarsfields and then said Clann Eireann had a bye. I think Culloville play Carrickcruppen.

Edit - Sarsfields got a bye, Clann Eireann play Culloville and Carrickcruppen play St Michael's.

you could be right fitzy, i got a text last night with that list but it could be wrong,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 02, 2012, 12:05:22 PM
See below for the Junior, Intermediate and Senior club championship draws. The Leagues will also run in a Junior, Intermediate and Senior format,



Senior Championship

Sarfields bye
Clann Eireann v Cullaville
Carrickcuppin v St Michaels
Maghery v Whitecross,
Ballymacnab v Clann na Gael
St Pats v Dromintee,
Cross v Armagh Harps,
Peasce Ogs v Granemore


Intermediate Championship


Wolfe Tones, Mullaghbawn and St Pauls all bye
Shane O'Neills v St Peters,
Killeavy v Middletown,
Tir na nOg v Madden,
Eire Og v Silverbridge,
Keady v Grange


Junior Championship


Corrinshego v O'Hanlons,
Phelim Brady's v An Port Mór,
Clonmore v Dorsey Emmets,
Belleeks v Annaghmore,
Lissummon v Belleeks or Annaghmore
St Pats v Tullysaran,
Collegeland v Killean,
Clady v Clonmore or Dorsey Emmetts,
Corrinshego or O'Hanlons v Forkhill,
Ballyhegan v Killeavy 2nds,
Derrynoose v Dromintee 2nds

So whats the story here, is  this divsion 1, 2 and 3, for the incoming season?

19 teams in division 3/junior
13 teams in division 2/intermediate
15 teams in divsion 1/senior

they could have divided it out a bit better, surely Ballyhegan, Port Mor, and Collegland would be fit for div2/intermediate

Dont see any sign of a Cross II team, whats the story there?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on February 02, 2012, 03:35:47 PM
winners of An Portmor /Phelim Bradys play Cross 2nds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on February 02, 2012, 04:43:50 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on February 02, 2012, 03:35:47 PM
winners of An Portmor /Phelim Bradys play Cross 2nds.

Cheers JR.

Have you any idea of the leagues for this year, is them three groups of teams, Junior, Intermediate ans senior in effect the division 3, 2, & 1 for the incoming season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 02, 2012, 08:26:22 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on February 02, 2012, 04:43:50 PM
Quote from: JUst retired on February 02, 2012, 03:35:47 PM
winners of An Portmor /Phelim Bradys play Cross 2nds.

Cheers JR.

Have you any idea of the leagues for this year, is them three groups of teams, Junior, Intermediate ans senior in effect the division 3, 2, & 1 for the incoming season

Three divisions, the make up of which is yet to be confirmed. Championship and League to integrate in 2014.
Title: Re: Corrinshego Charity Game
Post by: Agent Orange on February 03, 2012, 10:02:33 PM
Corrinshego will be needing more than a charity game to help them out of their latest predicament.
Title: Re: Corrinshego Charity Game
Post by: MK on February 05, 2012, 06:40:10 PM
Quote from: Agent Orange on February 03, 2012, 10:02:33 PM
Corrinshego will be needing more than a charity game to help them out of their latest predicament.

Would you like to elaborate??
Title: Re: Corrinshego Charity Game
Post by: Agent Orange on February 05, 2012, 08:25:44 PM
I haven't got the whole story yet, but the long and the short of it is that Corrinshego were supposed to buy a field, they had 2 draws over the years to fund the purchase. After much toing and froing the deal fell through because it was going to cost to much to develop the field and it all ended up in the High Court in Belfast last week where they ended up with a judgement against them for £100k.
Title: Re: Corrinshego Charity Game
Post by: JUst retired on February 05, 2012, 10:21:29 PM
Holy fcuk, thats some crack. ???
Title: Re: Corrinshego Charity Game
Post by: Agent Orange on February 06, 2012, 10:30:39 AM
Some crack indeed, especially that the land belonged to a local who knew the club couldnt afford a judgement of that size against them. I think the deal was done at the height of the boom and the club received some bad advice, some of it from Croke Park, who they are now turning to for help. Hope it works out for them.
Title: Re: Corrinshego Charity Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on February 06, 2012, 09:28:02 PM
I'm not sure that sort of idle gossip is helpful. Its true Thomas Davis are in a spot of bother and yes they might have been let down, not by Croke Park but by others supposedly acting on their behalf. But the Club has a lot of clever and hard working members and it'll pull through
Title: Re: Corrinshego Charity Game
Post by: Agent Orange on February 06, 2012, 09:57:37 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on February 06, 2012, 09:28:02 PM
I'm not sure that sort of idle gossip is helpful.

Idle gossip? You really couldn't have picked a more appropriate user name.
Title: Re: Corrinshego Charity Game
Post by: Dougal Maguire on February 06, 2012, 10:35:15 PM
You've lost me there
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on February 07, 2012, 09:05:16 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 09, 2012, 01:22:49 PM
The jersey worn by Armagh yesterday was the worst I've seen (so it nearly matched out performance).

I'm grateful for Mr Morgan's generosity, but surely someone with an ounce of sense was involved in the design?

I was glad to see the McKenna cup jersey was not worn last Sunday. Hopefully it has been consigned to the bin.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on February 08, 2012, 09:15:22 AM
Quote from: Orior on February 07, 2012, 09:05:16 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 09, 2012, 01:22:49 PM
The jersey worn by Armagh yesterday was the worst I've seen (so it nearly matched out performance).

I'm grateful for Mr Morgan's generosity, but surely someone with an ounce of sense was involved in the design?
I was glad to see the McKenna cup jersey was not worn last Sunday. Hopefully it has been consigned to the bin.
Was it not the same jersey minus the big Morgan Logo?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on February 08, 2012, 03:09:00 PM
New League structures:

Senior League

Armagh Harps
Ballymacnab
Carrickcruppen
Clan na Gael
Clann Eireann
Crossmaglen
Culloville
Dromintee
Granemore
Killeavy
Maghery
Pearse Og
St Patrick's
Sarsfields
Whitecross
Wolfe Tone

Intermediate League

Annaghmore
Belleek
Clonmore
Eire Og
Grange
Keady
Madden
Middletown
Mullaghbawn
St Michael's
St Paul's
St Peter's
Shane O'Neill's
Silverbridge
Tir na nÓg
Tullysaran

Junior League

Ballyhegan
Clady
Collegeland
Corrinshego
Crossmaglen II
Derrynoose
Dorsey Emmett's
Dromintee II
Forkhill
Killean
Killeavy II
Lissummon
O'Hanlon's
Phelim Brady's
An Port Mor
St Patrick's II
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on February 08, 2012, 04:11:38 PM
Is that a def Fitz?
Looks a good div 1 TBH, should be interesting...Good luck to them all
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TacadoirArdMhacha on February 08, 2012, 11:04:41 PM
Quote from: illdecide on February 08, 2012, 04:11:38 PM
Is that a def Fitz?
Looks a good div 1 TBH, should be interesting...Good luck to them all

Its subject to every club's right to appeal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on February 11, 2012, 07:16:28 PM
Good luck to Middletown tonight... bring home!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Denn Forever on February 15, 2012, 03:40:18 PM
How many of the U21 team are lining out for the seniors?  Was it 5 of the forward lines against Cork?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on February 24, 2012, 03:18:33 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on February 08, 2012, 09:15:22 AM
Quote from: Orior on February 07, 2012, 09:05:16 PM
Quote from: Orior on January 09, 2012, 01:22:49 PM
The jersey worn by Armagh yesterday was the worst I've seen (so it nearly matched out performance).

I'm grateful for Mr Morgan's generosity, but surely someone with an ounce of sense was involved in the design?
I was glad to see the McKenna cup jersey was not worn last Sunday. Hopefully it has been consigned to the bin.
Was it not the same jersey minus the big Morgan Logo?
Just saw the new jersey there on twitter. Bit of a retro look to it, like Tyrone/Fermanagh style. Also has a collar which is a welcome addition.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Candyman on February 24, 2012, 04:03:02 PM
http://www.armagh-gaa.com/forum/f5/new-armagh-jersey-coming-soon-1982/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: onefaircounty on February 24, 2012, 09:27:21 PM
Quote from: AFS on February 15, 2012, 06:44:15 PM
Quote from: Denn Forever on February 15, 2012, 03:40:18 PM
How many of the U21 team are lining out for the seniors?  Was it 5 of the forward lines against Cork?

Under 21s to have appeared in the league thus far:

McVerry: Started both games at CF.
McKenna: Started both games at CB.
Forker: On as a sub in Cork game, started Kerry game at HF.
Rafferty: On as a sub in Cork game at CF.
Campbell: On as a sub in Cork game at FF.
McParland: On as a sub in Kerry game at HF.

Some reports have slightly exaggerated the number of U21s currently involved with the seniors, presumably including Anto Duffy and Caolan Rafferty in their figures, both of whom are one year out of U21.

I thought both Raffertys were still under 21?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Oraisteach on March 01, 2012, 01:18:51 AM
Not in the loop, so can anyone tell me why Stevie McDonnell isn't on the county team right now?  Thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on March 01, 2012, 07:43:50 AM
Stevie opted out for family reasons at the moment. He will hopefully be back in the next few weeks. Ronan Clarke is reported back training as well so hopes are high there as well. :)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on March 06, 2012, 01:55:56 PM
THE CROSS RANGERS SENIOR TEAM ARE SERVING BREAKFAST IN THE RANGERS HALL ON SUNDAY 11TH MARCH 9.00 AM TO 12.30PM.

EVERYONE WELCOME
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on March 09, 2012, 10:30:58 AM
Quote from: crossfire on March 06, 2012, 01:55:56 PM
THE CROSS RANGERS SENIOR TEAM ARE SERVING BREAKFAST IN THE RANGERS HALL ON SUNDAY 11TH MARCH 9.00 AM TO 12.30PM.

EVERYONE WELCOME

Why?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on March 09, 2012, 12:14:25 PM
Quote from: crossfire on March 06, 2012, 01:55:56 PM
THE CROSS RANGERS SENIOR TEAM ARE SERVING BREAKFAST IN THE RANGERS HALL ON SUNDAY 11TH MARCH 9.00 AM TO 12.30PM.

EVERYONE WELCOME
Is Stephen Kernan allowed to fry the rashers?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 14, 2012, 06:05:18 PM
Good luck to Cross on Sat...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Agent Orange on March 14, 2012, 10:44:16 PM
Stevie hasn't decided if he is coming back or not, doesn't sound promising.

The logo on the new shirt looks awful. Is it allowed to be that BIG?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on March 17, 2012, 11:09:28 PM
Great to see Poyntzpass man Raymond McSherry in the Irish News today.

My first and last coach.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on March 27, 2012, 12:14:52 AM
St Pauls Bessbrook are playing their all Ireland final as a curtain raiser to the Cross / Garrycastle game.

I read in the Cross Examiner that Shanes  have 5 players on the St pauls team .

Where are the other players from ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Agent Orange on March 27, 2012, 11:45:07 AM
The captain is from Killeavy, Hall is from Forkhill, his father would be better known for basketball than football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laceer on March 27, 2012, 01:03:50 PM
Quote from: Agent Orange on March 27, 2012, 11:45:07 AM
The captain is from Killeavy, Hall is from Forkhill, his father would be better known for basketball than football.

Sherman? Think he might have kicked a bit himself
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 27, 2012, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: laceer on March 27, 2012, 01:03:50 PM
Quote from: Agent Orange on March 27, 2012, 11:45:07 AM
The captain is from Killeavy, Hall is from Forkhill, his father would be better known for basketball than football.

Sherman? Think he might have kicked a bit himself

A small bit maybe, young Jemar is Aaron Cunninghams cousin too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on March 27, 2012, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 27, 2012, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: laceer on March 27, 2012, 01:03:50 PM
Quote from: Agent Orange on March 27, 2012, 11:45:07 AM
The captain is from Killeavy, Hall is from Forkhill, his father would be better known for basketball than football.

Sherman? Think he might have kicked a bit himself

A small bit maybe, young Jemar is Aaron Cunninghams cousin too.

He'll be playing for Cross before long.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 27, 2012, 06:47:22 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on March 27, 2012, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 27, 2012, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: laceer on March 27, 2012, 01:03:50 PM
Quote from: Agent Orange on March 27, 2012, 11:45:07 AM
The captain is from Killeavy, Hall is from Forkhill, his father would be better known for basketball than football.

Sherman? Think he might have kicked a bit himself

A small bit maybe, young Jemar is Aaron Cunninghams cousin too.

He'll be playing for Cross before long.

;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on March 27, 2012, 10:38:32 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on March 27, 2012, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 27, 2012, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: laceer on March 27, 2012, 01:03:50 PM
Quote from: Agent Orange on March 27, 2012, 11:45:07 AM
The captain is from Killeavy, Hall is from Forkhill, his father would be better known for basketball than football.

Sherman? Think he might have kicked a bit himself

A small bit maybe, young Jemar is Aaron Cunninghams cousin too.

He'll be playing for Cross before long.

Aye probably seeing as we don't have any good young players in the club ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on March 29, 2012, 10:31:50 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 27, 2012, 10:38:32 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on March 27, 2012, 04:03:23 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on March 27, 2012, 03:37:56 PM
Quote from: laceer on March 27, 2012, 01:03:50 PM
Quote from: Agent Orange on March 27, 2012, 11:45:07 AM
The captain is from Killeavy, Hall is from Forkhill, his father would be better known for basketball than football.

Sherman? Think he might have kicked a bit himself

A small bit maybe, young Jemar is Aaron Cunninghams cousin too.

He'll be playing for Cross before long.

Aye probably seeing as we don't have any good young players in the club ::)
Never stopped you taking Joey, just thought he'd follow in the families footsteps. By the way slagging apart he looks a great prospect.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 29, 2012, 09:18:47 PM
Quote from: Agent Orange on March 27, 2012, 11:45:07 AM
The captain is from Killeavy, Hall is from Forkhill, his father would be better known for basketball than football.

Excellent stuff, you really are the font of all knowledge
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 29, 2012, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: crossfire on March 27, 2012, 12:14:52 AM
St Pauls Bessbrook are playing their all Ireland final as a curtain raiser to the Cross / Garrycastle game.

I read in the Cross Examiner that Shanes  have 5 players on the St pauls team .

Where are the other players from ?

There are 6 each from Shanes, Drumintee and Cullyhanna, 4 from Cruppen, 3 each from Silverbridge, Mullaghban and Killeavy and 1 each from Dorsey, Forkill, Killean, Poyntz Pass and Corrinshego
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on March 31, 2012, 02:12:09 PM
Good luck to Cross today...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Agent Orange on March 31, 2012, 05:02:31 PM
Congratulations to St Pauls on a great win. Should be the first half of an Armagh double today.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 01, 2012, 03:18:25 PM
ACL Division 1 result
Nab 0-11
Granemore 0-11
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2012, 03:26:08 PM
Pearse Og beat St Pats by 4
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on April 01, 2012, 04:05:08 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2012, 03:26:08 PM
Pearse Og beat St Pats by 4

I couldn't make it to the game today el_cuervo but I have heard there was a comeback made today
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2012, 04:59:03 PM
Quote from: ogshead on April 01, 2012, 04:05:08 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2012, 03:26:08 PM
Pearse Og beat St Pats by 4

I couldn't make it to the game today el_cuervo but I have heard there was a comeback made today

Ronan played for ten minutes and done well. Great to see him back. He played ten last week against carrickmore as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on April 01, 2012, 05:25:13 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2012, 04:59:03 PM
Quote from: ogshead on April 01, 2012, 04:05:08 PM
Quote from: el_cuervo_fc on April 01, 2012, 03:26:08 PM
Pearse Og beat St Pats by 4

I couldn't make it to the game today el_cuervo but I have heard there was a comeback made today

Ronan played for ten minutes and done well. Great to see him back. He played ten last week against carrickmore as well.

Good stuff... any other results? I heard on Facebook that the Harps were beat by Maghery
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on April 01, 2012, 05:48:38 PM
How did Dromintee do?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pearseog on April 01, 2012, 06:05:10 PM
Dromintee were beat by 10 by Whitecross
Killeavy beat Sarsfields by a point
nab and granemore drew
maghery beat harps by 2
cruppen and culloville game was abandoned after referee got injured
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 01, 2012, 08:05:33 PM
Annaghmore beat Tullysaran score was around 1-18 to 0-7. Tullysaran had a man sent off for striking in the first half but Annaghmore were about 1-7 to no score up at that point
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Student Dissertation on April 04, 2012, 09:43:54 AM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Student Dissertation on April 04, 2012, 03:28:24 PM
At the risk of becoming a pain.....this question was ommited by mistake.


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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 11, 2012, 08:22:10 PM
Clans beat Wolf Tones by 2 or 3pts...wasn't pretty but a win is a win and hopefully a few more will follow
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on April 11, 2012, 08:26:36 PM
Annaghmore beat Tir Na Nog 1-10 to 1-08
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Don Johnson on April 11, 2012, 08:44:43 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 11, 2012, 08:22:10 PM
Clans beat Wolf Tones by 2 or 3pts...wasn't pretty but a win is a win and hopefully a few more will follow

Didn't take you long cycling home.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on April 11, 2012, 09:01:08 PM
Harps won 3-8 to 11. Harps should have won by a lot more, overrun Granemore in the first half, really should have been outa sight, went to sleep in the second half a bit. Pleasantly suprised as we've been trimmed the last few times we've been up there. Deccie McKenna 0-3 from play from CHB and Simon McCoy probably best.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on April 11, 2012, 09:19:03 PM
Sarsfields 2-10 Dromintee 2-8
Tones 0-8 Clans 0-10
Clann Eireann 1-11 Cruppen 0-12
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 11, 2012, 11:47:52 PM
Quote from: Don Johnson on April 11, 2012, 08:44:43 PM
Quote from: illdecide on April 11, 2012, 08:22:10 PM
Clans beat Wolf Tones by 2 or 3pts...wasn't pretty but a win is a win and hopefully a few more will follow

Didn't take you long cycling home.

;) just a natural
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 15, 2012, 04:26:31 PM
Clans were beat by Cruppin by 8pts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harpo on April 15, 2012, 04:41:49 PM
Harps V Culloville was a draw.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 15, 2012, 05:55:55 PM
Clan E beat Nab
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 15, 2012, 09:14:07 PM
Cross beat Sarsfields by 9 or 10.

ANY OTHER RESULTS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on April 15, 2012, 09:18:33 PM
Ogs beat Dromintee away by 2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on April 16, 2012, 03:01:43 PM
r clarke played full forward and scored 2 tasty points
great to see

could he stake a last minute claim for thechampionship ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 16, 2012, 08:16:26 PM
Quote from: naka on April 16, 2012, 03:01:43 PM
r clarke played full forward and scored 2 tasty points
great to see

could he stake a last minute claim for thechampionship ::)

Full match??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 16, 2012, 09:40:00 PM
I heard it wasn't a full match but he has came on as a sub in a couple of matches now. Encouraging
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on April 16, 2012, 09:53:39 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 16, 2012, 08:16:26 PM
Quote from: naka on April 16, 2012, 03:01:43 PM
r clarke played full forward and scored 2 tasty points
great to see

could he stake a last minute claim for thechampionship ::)

Full match??
no wasnt full game
he is getting eased in but looking ok
next 4/5 weeks will see him playing at least 7 club games
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on April 20, 2012, 12:27:37 PM
Good win by the Harps on Wednesday night in Clann Eireann, a lot of young lads getting a run in the team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on April 22, 2012, 04:26:50 PM
Senior League Maghery 1-14 Cross 0-7.

Cross short 5 but Maghery were very good.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 22, 2012, 04:27:41 PM
Harps 0-14 Clans 0-09 (think that was the final score) Harps deserved their win, not a great game but Harps won't complain they've 2pts in the bag
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on April 22, 2012, 04:38:44 PM
Think you did yourselves out of a point. 14-10 I think. Poor game ok. Clans look physically very light in a lot of areas. Harps need to improve their forward play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bigtogs on April 22, 2012, 08:22:43 PM
Quote from: crossfire on April 22, 2012, 04:26:50 PM
Senior League Maghery 1-14 Cross 0-7.

Cross short 5 but Maghery were very good.


just seen this man from my own club clonoe(tyrone) over maghery fair play too him cross different animal in the championshipp though.....nice to beat cross anytime......
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cold tea on April 27, 2012, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on April 16, 2012, 09:40:00 PM
I heard it wasn't a full match but he has came on as a sub in a couple of matches now. Encouraging

I believe he will just be coming on as sub for a while and won't have any input this year to Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on April 27, 2012, 12:29:06 PM
Quote from: Cold tea on April 27, 2012, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on April 16, 2012, 09:40:00 PM
I heard it wasn't a full match but he has came on as a sub in a couple of matches now. Encouraging

I believe he will just be coming on as sub for a while and won't have any input this year to Armagh.
he was at county training last nite ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cold tea on April 30, 2012, 02:40:21 PM
That's all he'll be at and if Paddy and the boys rush him back and him not fit again it's a disgrace.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on May 02, 2012, 09:54:03 PM
Cross beat Whitecross by about 8 or 9 points tonight in senior league.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: No. 6 on May 04, 2012, 03:17:03 PM
quote author=naka link=topic=769.msg1102366#msg1102366 date=1334609619]
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 16, 2012, 08:16:26 PM
Quote from: naka on April 16, 2012, 03:01:43 PM
r clarke played full forward and scored 2 tasty points
great to see

could he stake a last minute claim for thechampionship ::)

Full match??
no wasnt full game
he is getting eased in but looking ok
next 4/5 weeks will see him playing at least 7 club games
[/quote]

Are you talking about ronan clarke, the young player of the year, an excellant footballer back in 2002 when truthfully the team were very lucky to take SAM north. he hasn't played since - 10 years too long out of it? Let Big P settle with the players he has now and see how he gets on! :) typical of armchair supporters don't actually see the team and the men behind it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orchardman on May 04, 2012, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: No. 6 on May 04, 2012, 03:17:03 PM
quote author=naka link=topic=769.msg1102366#msg1102366 date=1334609619]
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 16, 2012, 08:16:26 PM
Quote from: naka on April 16, 2012, 03:01:43 PM
r clarke played full forward and scored 2 tasty points
great to see

could he stake a last minute claim for thechampionship ::)

Full match??
no wasnt full game
he is getting eased in but looking ok
next 4/5 weeks will see him playing at least 7 club games

Are you talking about ronan clarke, the young player of the year, an excellant footballer back in 2002 when truthfully the team were very lucky to take SAM north. he hasn't played since - 10 years too long out of it? Let Big P settle with the players he has now and see how he gets on! :) typical of armchair supporters don't actually see the team and the men behind it
[/quote]

Not really 10 years ago, he was the best full forward in the country in 2008, just back to his best, but since 2009 he has been destroyed with injury.
So it's 3 years, not 10, big difference. Anyway, it's gonna be tough for him to come back, but he has every chance of another 3-4 good years of county football if he stays fit, he's only 29.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on May 05, 2012, 11:47:41 AM
Nab beat harps Last nite by 4 points, any other results??
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nrico2006 on May 28, 2012, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: Orchardman on May 04, 2012, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: No. 6 on May 04, 2012, 03:17:03 PM
quote author=naka link=topic=769.msg1102366#msg1102366 date=1334609619]
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 16, 2012, 08:16:26 PM
Quote from: naka on April 16, 2012, 03:01:43 PM
r clarke played full forward and scored 2 tasty points
great to see

could he stake a last minute claim for thechampionship ::)

Full match??
no wasnt full game
he is getting eased in but looking ok
next 4/5 weeks will see him playing at least 7 club games

Are you talking about ronan clarke, the young player of the year, an excellant footballer back in 2002 when truthfully the team were very lucky to take SAM north. he hasn't played since - 10 years too long out of it? Let Big P settle with the players he has now and see how he gets on! :) typical of armchair supporters don't actually see the team and the men behind it

Not really 10 years ago, he was the best full forward in the country in 2008, just back to his best, but since 2009 he has been destroyed with injury.
So it's 3 years, not 10, big difference. Anyway, it's gonna be tough for him to come back, but he has every chance of another 3-4 good years of county football if he stays fit, he's only 29.
[/quote]

Sean Cavanagh was.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on May 28, 2012, 10:28:55 PM

No, He played on the best team. Ronan Clarke was unmarkable in 08. Armagh just couldn't get him enough ball
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cold tea on June 18, 2012, 02:12:00 PM
Looks like Ronan will be out for Harps game with another niggle.  Very unfortunate as he seemed to be geeting good game play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Carmen Stateside on July 11, 2012, 10:27:34 PM
Good to see Armagh lads lending their services to NY football this summer, Jamie Clarke, Ciaran Mc Keever and Brendan Donaghy have sanctions passed to play for Leitrim in NY. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on July 12, 2012, 11:47:35 AM
Ogs for the SFC!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: eachaidh on July 12, 2012, 12:32:20 PM
Hi everyone,

Sorry to hijack the thread but please bear with me!

I have been made aware of a study that the University of Ulster are currently carrying out into defibrillators in the GAA. It's an all-Ireland study that is based on line.

As this is such an important and emotive subject for many of us Gaels I thought that I should try to get the word out so that as many of us as possible participate in order to make the results more reliable. The link is below and I would encourage everyone to take the 5 minutes and complete the form. The idea is to get a picture of where we are at as an organisation with the provision of this life saving equipment.

I should state that this is not my study and I am not involved in it other than that I know the people carrying it out. But on their behalf I would like to thank everyone who does fill it out in advance. Your help will be greatly appreciated and hopefully will help the GAA and all of our members. Getting this information may eventually even help to save lives.

Go raibh maith agat!

Link Below:

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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Syferus on July 15, 2012, 12:07:01 AM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on July 11, 2012, 10:27:34 PM
Good to see Armagh lads lending their services to NY football this summer, Jamie Clarke, Ciaran Mc Keever and Brendan Donaghy have sanctions passed to play for Leitrim in NY.

Bejayus. Our own David O'Gara is over with Leitrim too. Maybe Leitrim NY can play in the Connacht championship instead of the original one!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on July 15, 2012, 03:55:22 PM
Quote from: Syferus on July 15, 2012, 12:07:01 AM
Quote from: Carmen Stateside on July 11, 2012, 10:27:34 PM
Good to see Armagh lads lending their services to NY football this summer, Jamie Clarke, Ciaran Mc Keever and Brendan Donaghy have sanctions passed to play for Leitrim in NY.

Bejayus. Our own David O'Gara is over with Leitrim too. Maybe Leitrim NY can play in the Connacht championship instead of the original one!

The real thing lasted longer than the Rossies!!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: haveaharp on July 15, 2012, 05:48:35 PM
Quote from: Orchardman on May 04, 2012, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: No. 6 on May 04, 2012, 03:17:03 PM
quote author=naka link=topic=769.msg1102366#msg1102366 date=1334609619]
Quote from: Onion Bag on April 16, 2012, 08:16:26 PM
Quote from: naka on April 16, 2012, 03:01:43 PM
r clarke played full forward and scored 2 tasty points
great to see

could he stake a last minute claim for thechampionship ::)

Full match??
no wasnt full game
he is getting eased in but looking ok
next 4/5 weeks will see him playing at least 7 club games

Are you talking about ronan clarke, the young player of the year, an excellant footballer back in 2002 when truthfully the team were very lucky to take SAM north.

In what way were they lucky ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 323232 on July 17, 2012, 04:50:37 PM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on July 25, 2012, 10:11:18 PM
Pearse Og 4-15 Harps 2-9  8)

Always good to get one over the neighbours
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on July 26, 2012, 11:17:18 PM
Photos of Pearse Og V Harps

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157630766622030/detail/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on July 28, 2012, 03:47:21 PM
Hurling photos Cuchulainns v Carrickmore


Cuchulainns ran out 1-16 to 1-9 winners


http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157630789005782/detail/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on July 29, 2012, 07:38:53 PM
Some great photos, noticed quite a few of the lads played both games 2 nights in a row as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on August 10, 2012, 10:40:37 PM
Maghery beat whitecross by 4 points
Nab beat clans by 8 points

Tonight in the SFC
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on August 11, 2012, 09:11:25 PM
Ogs won 3.16 to 8
Cross won 2.12 to 2.7

2.7 to 2.6 with 10 to go and Johnny Hanratty got a Red - we dared believe, but Cross stepped it up a bit, we missed another gilt edged goal chance late on to draw it level.  Cross deserving winners but I thought Harps played very well, played some great football, footered about a bit too much in the first half and didn't get the shots off when we were ascendant.  We've undoubtedly the makings of a good team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on August 14, 2012, 01:12:47 PM
Any word on the draw for the next round of the championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stpauls on August 14, 2012, 01:36:30 PM
Simplyfruit.com Armagh Senior Football Championship Quarter-finals

Maghery v Crossmaglen Rangers

Dromintee or St Patrick's v Culloville

Pearse Og v Ballymacnab

Carrickcruppen v Sarsfields

These games will take place over the weekend of Friday 31st August,
Saturday 1st September and Sunday 2nd September 2012
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on August 14, 2012, 01:39:30 PM
crupps v sarafields
ogs v ballymcnab
cross v maghery
cullaville v dromintee/cullyhanna
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on August 14, 2012, 01:50:00 PM
When was the draw made,

is there another for the semis?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on August 14, 2012, 03:17:25 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on August 14, 2012, 01:50:00 PM
When was the draw made,

is there another for the semis?
Last night, and as far as I know there is.

For what it's worth I reckon the winners will be

Maghery v Crossmaglen - Tie of the round. Maghery have beat Cross convincingly in the league and will be confident of beating them in champ. That said I think Cross mgmt will have sounded out Maghery as potential threats to them retaining their crown and may have fielded a weakened side in that game. Even if it is close I'd expect the 50/50 calls to go the way of Cross.

Dromintee/St Pat's v Culloville - Whoever wins Dromintee/Pats should account for Culloville, who by all accounts were awful against an even worse Clann Eireann side. Be a close game nonetheless however I feel those two teams have too much for Culloville.

Pearse Og v Ballymacnab - Ogs will win this hands down. Ballymacnab's MF and FB line are suspect in my opinion and won't be able to cope with the power Pearse Og have all over the pitch. (and on the bench). Ballymacnab when they got going against Clans were outstanding but I can't see them getting that same freedom afforded to them against the Ogs.

Carrickcruppen v Sarsfields - Tough enough call but I feel if Sarsfield's continue their league form they should beat a Cruppen side who laboured to a facile win over Junior League candidates Newtown. Sarsfield's in attack always seem to score plenty of goals which should swing this tie in their favour.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on August 14, 2012, 03:31:37 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 14, 2012, 03:17:25 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on August 14, 2012, 01:50:00 PM
When was the draw made,

is there another for the semis?
Last night, and as far as I know there is.

For what it's worth I reckon the winners will be

Maghery v Crossmaglen - Tie of the round. Maghery have beat Cross convincingly in the league and will be confident of beating them in champ. That said I think Cross mgmt will have sounded out Maghery as potential threats to them retaining their crown and may have fielded a weakened side in that game. Even if it is close I'd expect the 50/50 calls to go the way of Cross.

Dromintee/St Pat's v Culloville - Whoever wins Dromintee/Pats should account for Culloville, who by all accounts were awful against an even worse Clann Eireann side. Be a close game nonetheless however I feel those two teams have too much for Culloville.

Pearse Og v Ballymacnab - Ogs will win this hands down. Ballymacnab's MF and FB line are suspect in my opinion and won't be able to cope with the power Pearse Og have all over the pitch. (and on the bench). Ballymacnab when they got going against Clans were outstanding but I can't see them getting that same freedom afforded to them against the Ogs.

Carrickcruppen v Sarsfields - Tough enough call but I feel if Sarsfield's continue their league form they should beat a Cruppen side who laboured to a facile win over Junior League candidates Newtown. Sarsfield's in attack always seem to score plenty of goals which should swing this tie in their favour.

I reckon you have that about right Fitzroyalty, but there is always a surprise somewhere in the championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cold tea on August 15, 2012, 11:58:57 AM
Quote from: stpauls on August 14, 2012, 01:36:30 PM
Simplyfruit.com Armagh Senior Football Championship Quarter-finals

Maghery v Crossmaglen Rangers

Dromintee or St Patrick's v Culloville

Pearse Og v Ballymacnab

Carrickcruppen v Sarsfields

These games will take place over the weekend of Friday 31st August,
Saturday 1st September and Sunday 2nd September 2012

Any venues, or are they all at athletic grounds?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on August 15, 2012, 02:01:24 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on August 14, 2012, 03:31:37 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on August 14, 2012, 03:17:25 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on August 14, 2012, 01:50:00 PM
When was the draw made,

is there another for the semis?
Last night, and as far as I know there is.

For what it's worth I reckon the winners will be

Maghery v Crossmaglen - Tie of the round. Maghery have beat Cross convincingly in the league and will be confident of beating them in champ. That said I think Cross mgmt will have sounded out Maghery as potential threats to them retaining their crown and may have fielded a weakened side in that game. Even if it is close I'd expect the 50/50 calls to go the way of Cross.

Dromintee/St Pat's v Culloville - Whoever wins Dromintee/Pats should account for Culloville, who by all accounts were awful against an even worse Clann Eireann side. Be a close game nonetheless however I feel those two teams have too much for Culloville.

Pearse Og v Ballymacnab - Ogs will win this hands down. Ballymacnab's MF and FB line are suspect in my opinion and won't be able to cope with the power Pearse Og have all over the pitch. (and on the bench). Ballymacnab when they got going against Clans were outstanding but I can't see them getting that same freedom afforded to them against the Ogs.

Carrickcruppen v Sarsfields - Tough enough call but I feel if Sarsfield's continue their league form they should beat a Cruppen side who laboured to a facile win over Junior League candidates Newtown. Sarsfield's in attack always seem to score plenty of goals which should swing this tie in their favour.

I reckon you have that about right Fitzroyalty, but there is always a surprise somewhere in the championship





fancy Cross/ogs/St Pats/Cruppen
cruppen wouldnt fear sarsfields so it was a good draw for them.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on August 16, 2012, 09:56:35 AM
Is Jamie Clarke still in the states? Is he going to play for Cross this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on August 17, 2012, 07:24:25 AM
Nab v Ogs Fri 07/09/12 @ 07:30pm Athletic Grounds

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on August 17, 2012, 09:45:09 PM
Senior Football Championship 1st Round Replay
TEAM    V    TEAM            VENUE                     DATE           TIME
Dromintee    V    St Patrick's    Crossmaglen    Sunday 19th August    6.30pm

Senior Football Championship Quarter-finals
TEAM    V    TEAM           VENUE                                    DATE               TIME
Maghery    V    Crossmaglen    Morgan Athletic Grounds    Friday 31st August    7.30pm
Culloville    V    Dromintee/St Patrick's    Crossmaglen    Sunday 2nd September    5.30pm
Carrickcruppen    V    Sarsfields    Morgan Athletic Grounds    Monday 3rd September    7.30pm
Ballymacnab    V    Pearse Og    Morgan Athletic Grounds    Friday 7th September    7.30pm
Title: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Applesisapples on August 23, 2012, 10:23:09 AM
The Senior and Junior Club SF's took place last weekend, no mention on this board and even on the County Forum there was only a few posts. Derrynoose seemed to have an easy win over Lurgan and having done likewise to Portadown in the previous round it would appear that hurling in North Armagh is in trouble. That said Keady and Middletown fought out a draw in the Senior and replay this Friday. Is noone interested in the small ball any more?
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: nrico2006 on August 23, 2012, 11:00:41 AM
Hurling has been hit hard this year, a lot of the clubs in Armagh have only played a few league games.  This is as a result of the restructuring of the leagues for one, which split the two divisions into three.  Each team got maybe 12 to 14 games previously but with 3 leagues of maybe 5 teams it doesn't make any sense as to why they split them.  Lurgan have only played one league game at the start of June and one about 2 weeks ago.  Lost in the championship due to a lot of players missing due to travelling/emigration, probably missing about 7 starting players from last years team.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 23, 2012, 05:43:58 PM
Where you at the semi-final?

I have just come home from the Cuchulainn Hurling Club Summer Camp, where Ken McGrath was quoted as saying it was the biggest Camp he had seen in years, fyi 180+ kids.


A bit of an over reaction, there was never any great discussion on this board regarding Hurling and the state of Armagh hurling does not equate to the amount of debate on a GAA discussion forum which has overall been down in activity. Also I know a few lads who would've from time to time piped in with their 2 cents worth have now evolved from student to Professional, thus one would feel cutting down their ''surfing''.

One thing I do believe is that a lot of work is still needed behind the scenes re. Armagh hurling, but I know a few lads working their utmost and they do be pissing against the wind sometimes. Armagh Hurling has and as far as I can see always will struggle against our status as a footballing county, BUT DEAD, NO!!!
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Applesisapples on August 24, 2012, 09:41:55 AM
Yeah I was at the semi-finals Keady Middletown was an exciting game, the Derrynoose game was poor and the goals for the winners put a gloss on a poor spectacle. Mickey Johnson in todays IN named 5 South Armagh teams as the top teams in the County, which seems to support my contention that hurling is in bother in the north of the county. I would dearly love to see it emulate the county teams success but with only five teams considered to be making the grade the County Board need to weigh in with some sort of help...but what is the question given the strength of football?
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: nrico2006 on August 24, 2012, 09:50:43 AM
There only is the two teams in the North of the County, and I know Portadown have been struggling this past few years but Lurgan would be on a par with Derrynoose and ahead of Killeavey and Camlough.  From a senior perspective, things have gotten worse this past two seasons due to the league split I mentioned as well as the County Board now postponing games due to the senior, minor or u-21 Coutny team playing.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: downtown on August 24, 2012, 11:17:49 PM
it was reborn tonight in the athletic grounds!!  ;)
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Eamonnca1 on August 24, 2012, 11:39:38 PM
Last time I went along with the Treacy's (and this was a long time ago, about 20 years or more) the attitude seemed to be that they were expecting to lose, they lost their game, and afterwards the speech on the bus back to Lurgan was about how that's what they expected to happen and all the players seemed to just laugh the whole thing off.  I don't know what the ethos of the club is like now but in them days the attitude was very lackadaisical.  Has a bit of local competition with Portadown helped to get some rivalry going and encouraged them to try harder?  I know they always had a decent underage setup, so the future existence of the club shouldn't be in doubt. The only question is will the youngsters grow to be cynical about their chances when they get older and will the rot set in?

And before anybody jumps at me for blaming the club, I'm not saying that's the only problem.  I also remember a national league inter-county hurling match being moved to a different pitch with less then 24 hours notice because of a scheduling conflict with some club football match in Davitt Park. 

Anyroad.  What happened tonight in the Athletic Grounds?
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 25, 2012, 11:46:44 AM
Quote from: downtown on August 24, 2012, 11:17:49 PM
it was reborn tonight in the athletic grounds!!  ;)

It certainly was, I think both teams will be glad the the Cuchulianns had last week video recorded and not this week. Long time since I seen such a barny like that.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 29, 2012, 06:08:14 PM
Any word or repercussions on the Battle of the Athletic Grounds, funny if there was a camera at the match the BBC execs would had salivated at the thought.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Applesisapples on August 30, 2012, 03:28:22 PM
No word yet. That said it was very much handbags until the Keady manager had a go at Middletowns manager who was actually trying to calm things down. It was disgusting to see Middletown subs and Keady fans jump the fence. I had the kids with me, no example to be set.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 30, 2012, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 30, 2012, 03:28:22 PM
No word yet. That said it was very much handbags until the Keady manager had a go at Middletowns manager who was actually trying to calm things down. It was disgusting to see Middletown subs and Keady fans jump the fence. I had the kids with me, no example to be set.

yeah, have to agree, although I do like to watch an owl dust up, its certainly not good for the kids. It really is a miracle no-one got seriously hurt because when the handbags as you call it turned into a fracas it was out of control.

Anyway apples Middletown will be big favs after stuffing the cuchulainns last year.  :'( But I think we will have maybe 7 possibly 8 different starters than last year and will give then a run for their money  8)
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 02, 2012, 05:52:41 PM
Club hurling looked in decent shape today. Hard fought match with Middletown winning by a point. Was tight the whole way through but some of the Middletown striking and shooting was poor which didn't help their cause.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Orchardman on September 02, 2012, 11:24:38 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 23, 2012, 10:23:09 AM
The Senior and Junior Club SF's took place last weekend, no mention on this board and even on the County Forum there was only a few posts. Derrynoose seemed to have an easy win over Lurgan and having done likewise to Portadown in the previous round it would appear that hurling in North Armagh is in trouble. That said Keady and Middletown fought out a draw in the Senior and replay this Friday. Is noone interested in the small ball any more?


Talk about no hurling talk on the board meaning lack of interest? maybe so, but we are a football mad county and yet look at this: football championship on this weekend and no post since 17th august. Also there has been only 2 pages of posts since the league began in april. Go figure
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: mackers on September 03, 2012, 10:38:01 AM
This Armagh Club Section has become much quieter because everybody is on the Orchard County forum discussing club football.  Plenty of debate on there.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: emainmacha on September 03, 2012, 09:57:37 PM
For those interested in Hurling, photos of the county final

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157631391155722/detail/

Can't help but wonder had the game not been played opposite an All Ireland semi final would there have been a better crowd
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on September 05, 2012, 11:39:55 AM
Hearing reports that there was another row last night during an u16 hurling match with one player hospitalised as a result - not good
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Oraisteach on September 05, 2012, 06:22:49 PM
Pardon my ignorance, but what two clubs are at odds.  Is it Keady and Middletown?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on September 10, 2012, 08:40:27 PM
Photos Pearse Og Armagh V Round Towers Ballymacnab

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157631504035154/detail/

Got pics of Sardfiels game to sort out yet, will post a link later in week when get look at them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 11, 2012, 11:40:03 AM
What was the score in the Annaghmore v Tullysaran game,

am i right in saying that Tullysaran have never won a championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 11, 2012, 11:47:46 AM
Dont know the score but they wont be winning one this year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 11, 2012, 12:21:17 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 11, 2012, 11:47:46 AM
Dont know the score but they wont be winning one this year

Have they ever won one, they must be the only club in the county never to have won a championship at some or another
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 11, 2012, 02:24:08 PM
Annaghmore 2-12  Saran 3-7.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on September 11, 2012, 08:20:04 PM
Who is playing in the athletic grounds tonight, just came through Armagh and there is a good crowd gathered
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goats Do Shave on September 12, 2012, 09:20:45 AM
Keady beat Tullysaran in the Camogie final 2nd replay.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 16, 2012, 08:47:53 PM
Great win by crupps today over sarsfields
Cross next Saturday under lights ::)
We are strong from midfield up hopefully the defence willhold up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armaghgael on September 17, 2012, 07:56:19 PM
Any odds available for the games yet?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 17, 2012, 08:12:22 PM
QuoteCross next Saturday under lights

Cross are so brilliant that they don't need lights!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: KIDDO 4 on September 19, 2012, 10:35:23 PM
Kileavy 1.8,Crossmaglen, 0.9 , U16 championship final tonight, MorganAthletic  Grounds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on September 21, 2012, 06:28:58 PM
for anyone abroad the Ogs v cullyhana game live here:  http://www.destinationnewry.com
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on September 21, 2012, 08:11:08 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 21, 2012, 06:28:58 PM
for anyone abroad the Ogs v cullyhana game live here:  http://www.destinationnewry.com

Thanks RealSpirit!!!!!!!!!!!, the video quality is excellent and no lagging of the sound/video.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on September 21, 2012, 09:20:14 PM
Great quality those pictures. Ogs into final by 10pts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Oraisteach on September 21, 2012, 09:20:57 PM
Thanks for the heads up, RealSpirit
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on September 28, 2012, 05:59:18 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on September 21, 2012, 09:20:57 PM
Thanks for the heads up, RealSpirit

I hope that big Ronan is doing alright after the leg injury, than man cant buy himself any luck, it is a shame altogether.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on October 01, 2012, 01:49:26 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on September 21, 2012, 06:28:58 PM
for anyone abroad the Ogs v cullyhana game live here:  http://www.destinationnewry.com

Will they be showing the Championship Match?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 13, 2012, 10:18:41 AM
They had full intentions to show the county final, but the powers that be that need their steaks after the game wanted a payment to show this game so all the ex pats around the world will not be privileged to this great service, f**king joke.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on October 13, 2012, 08:53:06 PM
Good luck to the Ogs!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on October 13, 2012, 08:57:52 PM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 13, 2012, 10:18:41 AM
They had full intentions to show the county final, but the powers that be that need their steaks after the game wanted a payment to show this game so all the ex pats around the world will not be privileged to this great service, f**king joke.

I received an email from the Armagh GAA Official Site and they stated they will be showing live on http://www.armaghgaa.net/   time change for Senior match is 4pm.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on October 14, 2012, 08:03:02 AM
Real spirit, you should know your facts before you post anything.You only prove you are a fool.
We only get a cup of soup after the game ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fiftyfiftyball on October 14, 2012, 11:52:59 AM
Who is in the minor final at 2pm?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 14, 2012, 12:22:05 PM
Grange v Killeavey
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on October 14, 2012, 12:55:12 PM

County board need to get this streaming right or they will get hammered. Better to not do it at all than do it badly...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ulick on October 14, 2012, 02:15:45 PM
Couldn't watch thon:

http://www.armaghgaa.net/football/clubfootball/sfc-mfc-championship-finals-live/ (http://www.armaghgaa.net/football/clubfootball/sfc-mfc-championship-finals-live/)

Any radio stations covering it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 14, 2012, 02:34:08 PM
It is pure shite
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on October 14, 2012, 03:27:10 PM
Watched part of the Minors here        http://www.ustream.tv/channel/armaghgaa  horrible picture

That stated they say they will have 3 cameras working for the Senior Match
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Sandy Hill on October 14, 2012, 04:28:32 PM
Armagh GAA website seems to be down-- Co Board efficient as usual!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: puskas on October 14, 2012, 04:37:29 PM
HT: Cross 2.3, Ogs 0.7

goals in the first minute and the last minute for Cross, Ogs 1.1 down within a minute but hauled themselves back into it. needly game. All to play for but Cross in the driving seat.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2012, 04:38:56 PM
Cross managing to get the goals when required, even when they haven't played well. Og's wont get a better opportunity to beat Cross, plenty of, off the ball stuff, be a hard one to referee
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: mb80b60 on October 14, 2012, 04:44:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2012, 04:38:56 PM
Cross managing to get the goals when required, even when they haven't played well. Og's wont get a better opportunity to beat Cross, plenty of, off the ball stuff, be a hard one to referee

Who has done the scoring for cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: puskas on October 14, 2012, 05:10:05 PM
Carragher with the third goal, 3-7 to 0.11 with about 5 minutes to go, looks like game over (Jamie Clarke got the first goal, not sure about the second)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 14, 2012, 05:18:31 PM
Cross's defence is hard to beat, no space at all. Some team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on October 14, 2012, 07:47:59 PM
Quote from: puskas on October 14, 2012, 05:10:05 PM
Carragher with the third goal, 3-7 to 0.11 with about 5 minutes to go, looks like game over (Jamie Clarke got the first goal, not sure about the second)

Did Clarke not get the 3rd goal, I would swear he did
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: haranguerer on October 14, 2012, 08:14:20 PM
He did, didnt get the 2nd but pretty sure it was him who set it up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on October 14, 2012, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 14, 2012, 07:47:59 PM
Quote from: puskas on October 14, 2012, 05:10:05 PM
Carragher with the third goal, 3-7 to 0.11 with about 5 minutes to go, looks like game over (Jamie Clarke got the first goal, not sure about the second)

Did Clarke not get the 3rd goal, I would swear he did

Jaime had the 1st goal then set up Tony Kernan for the second.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 14, 2012, 08:38:07 PM
Quote from: DrinkingHarp on October 14, 2012, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: Onion Bag on October 14, 2012, 07:47:59 PM
Quote from: puskas on October 14, 2012, 05:10:05 PM
Carragher with the third goal, 3-7 to 0.11 with about 5 minutes to go, looks like game over (Jamie Clarke got the first goal, not sure about the second)

Did Clarke not get the 3rd goal, I would swear he did

Jaime had the 1st goal then set up Tony Kernan for the second.

And he did get the third goal and nearly had the hat trick with the back heel into the corner!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on October 15, 2012, 12:09:34 AM
thought the Ogs were the better team in the first half, Cross did what they do best, let the opposition have their 10 mins and just nail them on the counter. You really got to admire Cross they have the full package, their 3rd goal was just pure class. The ogs never got a sniff of Hearty.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Moortown Spuds on October 15, 2012, 10:03:47 AM
Cross are some team.

Good to see the ref not falling for McConville's dive in an attempt to get JP Donnelly sent off.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: haranguerer on October 15, 2012, 05:59:21 PM
Cross certainly arent adverse to the playacting. Ogs ff line offered f**k all, that was the difference
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 16, 2012, 01:50:52 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on October 15, 2012, 05:59:21 PM
Cross certainly arent adverse to the playacting. Ogs ff line offered f**k all, that was the difference
Apart from 6 points maybe.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: haranguerer on October 17, 2012, 09:59:51 PM
Tons of ball went into them, they averaged 1 pt from play each, dont think they won any of the converted frees either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on October 19, 2012, 01:19:46 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on October 15, 2012, 12:09:34 AM
thought the Ogs were the better team in the first half, Cross did what they do best, let the opposition have their 10 mins and just nail them on the counter. You really got to admire Cross they have the full package, their 3rd goal was just pure class. The ogs never got a sniff of Hearty.


To me watching that Cross seem to have any amount of extra gears at their disposal should things get tight, they are simply phenomenal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 19, 2012, 01:38:06 PM
Quote from: haranguerer on October 17, 2012, 09:59:51 PM
Tons of ball went into them, they averaged 1 pt from play each, dont think they won any of the converted frees either.
That's still more than f**k all  :P In fairness they did get their tactics wrong in the ff line, but that wasn't the losing of the game.

Does anyone reckon all league games will finish before next Sunday's cut-off? I'm just wondering because there are teams that have as much as 6 games to play in that space of time! Surely not possible.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 20, 2012, 09:23:54 PM
Fitz you can bet as long as your arse hole looks down the teams needed to get the vital Pt's will do so, there will be a few teams not showing and a few W/O's handed out. However, anyteam that's in the position of waiting on other teams failing (Clans and Clann Eireann) have only themselves to blame for being in that position.

I'm sure you'll agree on that...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on October 20, 2012, 09:35:50 PM
Photos of Final, not get these sorted until today

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157631814178180/detail/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on October 21, 2012, 06:46:44 PM
Photos of Minor Final

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157631821105242/detail/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 20, 2012, 09:23:54 PM
Fitz you can bet as long as your arse hole looks down the teams needed to get the vital Pt's will do so, there will be a few teams not showing and a few W/O's handed out. However, anyteam that's in the position of waiting on other teams failing (Clans and Clann Eireann) have only themselves to blame for being in that position.

I'm sure you'll agree on that...
100% correct there. Still doesn't make it right though - Makes it harder to take! as long as these things aren't forgotten in the long run I suppose lol

Think Clans and Clann Eireann were officially relegated today anyway! With St Paul's and possibly St Peter's to replace them... How times have changed  :o

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 22, 2012, 01:07:37 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 20, 2012, 09:23:54 PM
Fitz you can bet as long as your arse hole looks down the teams needed to get the vital Pt's will do so, there will be a few teams not showing and a few W/O's handed out. However, anyteam that's in the position of waiting on other teams failing (Clans and Clann Eireann) have only themselves to blame for being in that position.

I'm sure you'll agree on that...
100% correct there. Still doesn't make it right though - Makes it harder to take! as long as these things aren't forgotten in the long run I suppose lol

Think Clans and Clann Eireann were officially relegated today anyway! With St Paul's and possibly St Peter's to replace them... How times have changed  :o

In these days of austerity, and with a view to producing a team that could challenge for Div 1 and the championship, which of the 4 teams above would be the most likely to merge?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on October 22, 2012, 02:03:18 PM
two camlough teams in division 1 next year
derbys will be a bit of fun
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 22, 2012, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 22, 2012, 01:07:37 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 20, 2012, 09:23:54 PM
Fitz you can bet as long as your arse hole looks down the teams needed to get the vital Pt's will do so, there will be a few teams not showing and a few W/O's handed out. However, anyteam that's in the position of waiting on other teams failing (Clans and Clann Eireann) have only themselves to blame for being in that position.

I'm sure you'll agree on that...
100% correct there. Still doesn't make it right though - Makes it harder to take! as long as these things aren't forgotten in the long run I suppose lol

Think Clans and Clann Eireann were officially relegated today anyway! With St Paul's and possibly St Peter's to replace them... How times have changed  :o

In these days of austerity, and with a view to producing a team that could challenge for Div 1 and the championship, which of the 4 teams above would be the most likely to merge?
None. I'd say teams would sooner fold than amalgamate in Lurgan.
Quote from: naka on October 22, 2012, 02:03:18 PM
two camlough teams in division 1 next year
derbys will be a bit of fun
When's the last time they played each other? Have shanes ever been division 1?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: topgun on October 22, 2012, 09:59:15 PM
Now the leagues are wrapping up, does anyone think the new structures have been a success?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on October 23, 2012, 01:45:40 PM
Quote from: topgun on October 22, 2012, 09:59:15 PM
Now the leagues are wrapping up, does anyone think the new structures have been a success?
I think it's been good, Division 2 and 3 are going down to the wire in terms of who gets promotion - St Peter's, St Paul's, Keady and Middletown are all in with a shout for the two promotion places. Same for Division 3 I think there's a winner takes all game to see who goes up. Also a winner takes all match to see who stays in Division 2.
Division 1 was pretty hectic in terms of who would go down from the bottom half though that has now been sorted. The top half has been riddled with cnf's but I suppose that's to be expected with teams who have retained their status and have nothing else to play for.
The only complaint would be fixtures which have been a shambles but I'm sure that can be worked on and rectified for next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on October 23, 2012, 04:17:27 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 22, 2012, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 22, 2012, 01:07:37 PM
Quote from: fitzroyalty on October 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 20, 2012, 09:23:54 PM
Fitz you can bet as long as your arse hole looks down the teams needed to get the vital Pt's will do so, there will be a few teams not showing and a few W/O's handed out. However, anyteam that's in the position of waiting on other teams failing (Clans and Clann Eireann) have only themselves to blame for being in that position.

I'm sure you'll agree on that...
100% correct there. Still doesn't make it right though - Makes it harder to take! as long as these things aren't forgotten in the long run I suppose lol

Think Clans and Clann Eireann were officially relegated today anyway! With St Paul's and possibly St Peter's to replace them... How times have changed  :o

In these days of austerity, and with a view to producing a team that could challenge for Div 1 and the championship, which of the 4 teams above would be the most likely to merge?
None. I'd say teams would sooner fold than amalgamate in Lurgan.
Quote from: naka on October 22, 2012, 02:03:18 PM
two camlough teams in division 1 next year
derbys will be a bit of fun
When's the last time they played each other? Have shanes ever been division 1?

they played in division 3 a few years ago
one game won each
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on October 24, 2012, 10:45:09 PM
Tell me this. Carrickcruppen and Shane O'Neills - how come there are two clubs so close to each other in the same village?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 24, 2012, 10:47:53 PM
QuoteTell me this. Carrickcruppen and Shane O'Neills - how come there is two clubs so close to each other in the same village?

Political split in the 80s.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DownFanatic on October 24, 2012, 10:50:37 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 24, 2012, 10:47:53 PM
QuoteTell me this. Carrickcruppen and Shane O'Neills - how come there is two clubs so close to each other in the same village?

Political split in the 80s.

What was club called before?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 24, 2012, 11:16:11 PM
According to Shane O'Neills website, Carrickcruppen was founded as a breakaway from Shane O'Neills in 1944, the latter folded in 1967.

The "united" Carrickcruppen was a big team in the late 70s,early 80s when they won 3 championships.
Shane O'Neills was refounded in 1984.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 24, 2012, 11:44:33 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 24, 2012, 11:16:11 PM
According to Shane O'Neills website, Carrickcruppen was founded as a breakaway from Shane O'Neills in 1944, the latter folded in 1967.

The "united" Carrickcruppen was a big team in the late 70s,early 80s when they won 3 championships.
Shane O'Neills was refounded in 1984.

United indeed, plus the odd Poyntzpass player or two.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Pragmatist on October 27, 2012, 04:29:36 PM
I am now convinced that the naysayers have been right all along. For years I tried to promote the idea that we can improve players' decision-making on and off the ball, their movement off the ball, their positional sense, their timing of runs and their abilities to adapt to different game plans and attacking options. The truth is that for 90% of players we cannot!!
They bring with them their own inbuilt cerebral limitations for these skills and we can labour for as long as we want and convince ourselves we see glimmers of hope, but the fact is that they will revert to type more often than not.
Just get them as fit as possible, as well-conditioned as possible and as technically proficient as possible and forget the rest.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on November 18, 2012, 08:50:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 24, 2012, 11:16:11 PM
According to Shane O'Neills website, Carrickcruppen was founded as a breakaway from Shane O'Neills in 1944, the latter folded in 1967.

The "united" Carrickcruppen was a big team in the late 70s,early 80s when they won 3 championships.
Shane O'Neills was refounded in 1984.
Where do Geraldines fit in this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on November 18, 2012, 10:58:04 PM

Geraldines were Cruppen seconds. Formed in the 80s when cruppen were very strong to give more lads football. The usual story ensued... lads capable of playing senior football but not arsed with the training opted to play with geraldines then families preferred brothers playing together and suddenly Geraldines had a couple of promotions
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: beat_er_in on December 19, 2012, 07:08:04 PM
Hi Killeavy Minors are getting her handy?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on December 29, 2012, 11:40:44 PM
Forgot about these photos of Sarsfields v Carrickcruppen as was busy at the time

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157632375421763/detail/

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on January 07, 2013, 05:01:38 PM
Has Armagh been playing any friendlies?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 30, 2013, 11:06:19 PM
Junior Football Championship
Annagmore v Pearse Óg 2
St Patrick's 2 v Phelim Brady's
St Michael's v Killean
Derrynoose v Clady
Corrinshego v Collegeland

Lissummon v Annaghmore/Pearse Óg's
Tullysaran v Ballyhegan
Forkhill v St Michael's/Killean
O Hanlon's v Beleek
Crossmaglen 2 St Pat's/Phelim Brady's
Dorsey Emmets v Dromintee 2
Killeavy 2 v Derrynoose/Clady
Clonmore v Corrinshego/Collegeland

Intermediate Championship
Middletwon v Grange
Tír na nÓg v Shane O'Neill's
Clan na Gael v Clann Éireann
Wolfe Tone v St Peter's
Silverbridge v Mullaghbane
An Port Mór v Madden
St Paul's v Éire Óg
Bye Keady

Senior Championship
Pearse Óg v Dromintee
Granemore v Armagh Harps
Ballymacnab v Culloville
Whitecross v St Patrick's
Killeavy v Maghery

Ballymacnab/Culloville v Granemore/Harps
Sarsfields v Whitecross/St Patrick's
Crossmaglen v Pearse Óg's/Dromintee
Carrickcruppen v Killeavy/Maghery
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 30, 2013, 11:09:28 PM
Few tasty draws in the Intermediate, looks competitive. I'd also expect the Ulster junior championship to be staying in Armagh, looking at the amount of teams that are in it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on January 31, 2013, 10:03:12 AM
Cant believe that Newtown are down into Junior,  won the intermediate in 09 and playing senior last year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fitzroyalty on January 31, 2013, 10:56:27 AM
Quote from: Onion Bag on January 31, 2013, 10:03:12 AM
Cant believe that Newtown are down into Junior,  won the intermediate in 09 and playing senior last year
Hard to believe but they were relegated from Division 2 so arguably that is their level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onion Bag on April 15, 2013, 08:41:30 AM
Simplyfruit 2013 Senior League
CULLOVILLE BLUES GAC 2-7 V 1-9 SARSFIELDS
ST PETER'S 0-10 V 0-12 MAGHERY SEÁN MACDIARMADA
NA CLOIGTHITHE BAILE MHIC AN ABA 1-6 V 1-6 KILLEAVY
ST PAUL'S 0-11 V 2-11 CROSSMAGLEN
GRANEMORE 0-10 V 1-8 PEARSE OG
CARRICKCRUPPEN 1-5 V 1-7 DROMINTEE

Simplyfruit 2013 Intermediate League[/b][/u]
KEADY 0-5 V 0-6 ANNAGHMORE
EIRE ÓG GAC 1-12 V 0-13 AN PORT MÓR
MULLAGHBAWN 2-10 V 0-9 CLANN EIREANN
MADDEN 0-6 V 0-15 TIR NA NÓG
MIDDLETOWN 0-8 V 1-10 SILVERBRIDGE
BALLYHEGAN 1-4 V 2-7 WOLFE TONES
DORSEY EMMETT'S 3-8 V 3-15 CLAN NA GAEL
GRANGE 1-12 V 1-9 ROIBEARD EIMÉID CLG CLUAIN MHÓR

Simplyfruit 2013 Junior A League
CROSSMAGLEN 3-7 V 2-10 TULLYSARAN
ST PATRICK'S V LIOS IOMANA - Postponed
DERRYNOOSE 1-3 V 0-12 PEADAR Ó DOIRNÍN FORKHILL
ST MICHAEL'S 0-7 V 0-8 COLLEGELAND

Simplyfruit 2013 Junior B League
CORRINSHEGO 0-8 V 1-5 KILLEAN
PEARSE OG 1-25 V 0-0 PHELIM BRADY'S
REDMOND O`HANLON'S 2-10 V 1-9 KILLEAVY
DROMINTEE L V W CLADY
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on April 15, 2013, 10:46:59 AM
Good start to the season for Portadown Tir Na Nog yesterday!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Oraisteach on April 16, 2013, 10:23:59 PM
Odd to think of Clan na Gael as an intermediate team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on April 19, 2013, 06:12:17 PM
Armagh Harps league refixture against St Patricks tonight as been moved to the College playing fields in Armag City with a 7.00 pm throw in. Please pass the word on.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on April 29, 2013, 02:22:18 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on April 16, 2013, 10:23:59 PM
Odd to think of Clan na Gael as an intermediate team

It is def a bit strange alright but we are were we are. They have got the good start to the season they wanted so hopefully they can keep it up and bounce right back up again first time of asking. They are a bit light in a few positions but there are a few good young lads coming through and hopefully they can kick on too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on May 08, 2013, 12:00:09 AM
Quote from: illdecide on April 29, 2013, 02:22:18 PM
Quote from: Oraisteach on April 16, 2013, 10:23:59 PM
Odd to think of Clan na Gael as an intermediate team

It is def a bit strange alright but we are were we are. They have got the good start to the season they wanted so hopefully they can keep it up and bounce right back up again first time of asking. They are a bit light in a few positions but there are a few good young lads coming through and hopefully they can kick on too.

What happened Clanns at the weekend. Losing to Clonmore.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on May 08, 2013, 07:43:22 AM
Surely the big story is Portadown Tir Na Nog's four wins out of four start.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 10, 2013, 11:02:27 AM
Clans got beat by a better team on the night who were hungrier for it. My opinion was they maybe thought they just had to turn up to win and were caught on the hop???. We'll find out tonight after their game away to Madden.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on May 10, 2013, 02:10:38 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 08, 2013, 07:43:22 AM
Surely the big story is Portadown Tir Na Nog's four wins out of four start.

Tutu's a good manager, certainly knows his stuff.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on May 12, 2013, 09:10:12 PM
Now 5 wins out of 5!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on May 13, 2013, 12:30:12 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on May 12, 2013, 09:10:12 PM
Now 5 wins out of 5!

Everythings going to plan Tony...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: our_fella on May 13, 2013, 01:19:02 PM
Div 2 is utter poo though....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Student Dissertation on June 07, 2013, 06:29:49 PM
I have for sale a framed Armagh team photograph of the 2002 Ulster and All Ireland Champions.

Its one of only 300 that were produced at the time, 40/50 of which were given to the players, management etc.

It still has the wrapping around the frame.

Should anyone be interested or knows someone who might be interested, feel free to pm me.

Thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Over the Bar on June 09, 2013, 05:50:32 PM
I saw one of those prints in the cancer shop on the Lisburn road for a fiver.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on June 09, 2013, 06:54:44 PM
IACFL
07.06.13 (Fri)
Round 8
SILVERBRIDGE 1-10 V 1-10 ANNAGHMORE
DORSEY EMMETT'S 0-8 V 2-16 TIR NA NÓG
MIDDLETOWN 1-13 V 1-13 MADDEN
CLAN NA GAEL 1-4 V 1-6 EIRE ÓG GAC
WOLFE TONES 0-17 V 0-7 AN PORT MÓR
CLANN EIREANN 1-16 V 1-7 CLONMORE

JACFL A
07.06.13 (Fri)
Round 6
LIOS IOMANA 2-8 V 1-11 PEADAR Ó DOIRNÍN FORKHILL
CROSSMAGLEN 2-6 V 0-10 DERRYNOOSE
TULLYSARAN 3-8 V 1-6 COLLEGELAND
ST PATRICK'S 0-12 V 1-7 BELLEEK

JACFL B
07.06.13 (Fri)
Round 8
KILLEAN 2-7 V 2-11 CORRINSHEGO
CLADY 2-15 V 0-8 DROMINTEE

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on June 10, 2013, 11:46:25 AM
Portadown's unblemished record of consecutive victories continues ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on June 10, 2013, 09:57:17 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 10, 2013, 11:46:25 AM
Portadown's unblemished record of consecutive victories continues ;D

Only team in the county with a 100% record. As I've said before, Tir na Nog have a top manager.

Maghery, Forkhill and Corrinshego  (;D) are also all unbeaten, although they've had draws thrown in there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on June 14, 2013, 10:18:38 PM
Ah record gone tonight.Only drew with Annaghmore.Suppose it had to end sometime :'(
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on June 15, 2013, 07:16:00 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on June 14, 2013, 10:18:38 PM
Ah record gone tonight.Only drew with Annaghmore.Suppose it had to end sometime :'(

Annaghmore probably up for it against their ex manager.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on June 15, 2013, 08:18:59 PM
QuoteAh record gone tonight.Only drew with Annaghmore.Suppose it had to end sometime

There's a lot more people in Portadown than Annaghmore!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on June 15, 2013, 09:45:18 PM
Are there many non Mc Nieces in the Annaghmore team? It's the club were Portadown lads used to wind down their careers with or join if they couldnt get a game with Ogs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on June 23, 2013, 09:28:47 PM
Wins against Middletown on Friday and Clonmore today, suggests that the Portadown bandwagon is back on track.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on July 29, 2013, 02:10:24 AM
Corrinshego won the Junior B league this weekend. Forkhill won the Junior A division also.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on July 29, 2013, 07:16:47 AM
Tir Na Nog drew with Mullabawn,and need one more win to secure the intermediate division title!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: artisan2010 on July 29, 2013, 08:16:28 AM
Quote from: ranch on July 29, 2013, 02:10:24 AM
Corrinshego won the Junior B league this weekend. Forkhill won the Junior A division also.

Fair play to all at the ranch and those that kept the club running through a lot of very difficult years.  Do they go to Junior A or Intermediate?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on July 30, 2013, 04:33:43 PM
Quote from: artisan2010 on July 29, 2013, 08:16:28 AM
Quote from: ranch on July 29, 2013, 02:10:24 AM
Corrinshego won the Junior B league this weekend. Forkhill won the Junior A division also.

Fair play to all at the ranch and those that kept the club running through a lot of very difficult years.  Do they go to Junior A or Intermediate?

Junior A, unless they win the Junior championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: All of a Sludden on July 31, 2013, 05:07:54 PM
I hear a few of the O'Callaghans got dropped this afternoon.  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on August 03, 2013, 12:38:25 AM
Tir Na Nog won the Intermediate league with a 3-06 to 0-10 win over Wolfe Tones on Thursday night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2013, 11:41:40 PM
Cross are 8/13 to win Championship, decent bet or are there any contenders?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on August 06, 2013, 07:23:17 AM
Great league win for Tir Na Nog,let's hope the Championship campaign is equally rewarding
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cold tea on August 06, 2013, 08:30:37 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 05, 2013, 11:41:40 PM
Cross are 8/13 to win Championship, decent bet or are there any contenders?

With Morgan out, Clarke gone no Oisin and doubts about P Kernan - Ogs maybe worth a punt.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on August 06, 2013, 08:53:13 AM
Would Maghery not be in with a shout?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cold tea on August 06, 2013, 09:33:59 AM
Maghery is a good shout, I just think the Ogs meeting Cross so early provided they get over their first round match could be key to getting an unstopable momentum going.  Personally I'd love to see the Harps win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: manballandall on August 06, 2013, 10:22:03 AM
I thought Jamie had a job with armagh county and was staying?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on August 06, 2013, 10:54:32 AM
crupps ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on August 10, 2013, 09:43:28 PM
Portadown Tir Na Nog carried on their unbeaten league form with an intermediate championship win over Shane O'Neills by a point tonight! Must be Armagh club of the year!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Corner Forward on August 14, 2013, 08:13:35 AM
lads would someone be able to help their down neighbour out and post up the senior championship fixtures if the draw has been made? interested in taking in a few games but dont see anything on the armagh website. cheers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 14, 2013, 09:11:32 AM
Quote from: Corner Forward on August 14, 2013, 08:13:35 AM
lads would someone be able to help their down neighbour out and post up the senior championship fixtures if the draw has been made? interested in taking in a few games but dont see anything on the armagh website. cheers

ROUND: 1

GRANEMORE v HARPS 23rd Aug. Keady 7.30pm

St. PATRICK'S v WHITECROSS 23rd Aug. Mullaghbawn 7.30pm

DROMINTEE v PEARSE OG 24thAug. Carrickcruppin - 7.30pm

BALLYMACNAB v CULLAVILLE 25thAug. Cullyhanna 5.00pm

KILLEAVY v MAGHERY 25thAug. Abbey Park 7.30pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Count 10 on August 16, 2013, 08:58:12 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 14, 2013, 09:11:32 AM
Quote from: Corner Forward on August 14, 2013, 08:13:35 AM
lads would someone be able to help their down neighbour out and post up the senior championship fixtures if the draw has been made? interested in taking in a few games but dont see anything on the armagh website. cheers

ROUND: 1

GRANEMORE v HARPS 23rd Aug. Keady 7.30pm

St. PATRICK'S v WHITECROSS 23rd Aug. Mullaghbawn 7.30pm

DROMINTEE v PEARSE OG 24thAug. Carrickcruppin - 7.30pm

BALLYMACNAB v CULLAVILLE 25thAug. Cullyhanna 5.00pm

KILLEAVY v MAGHERY 25thAug. Abbey Park 7.30pm

I think that the first two games are on as a double-header next Fri night at Athletic Grounds, Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cold tea on August 19, 2013, 09:25:19 AM
And DROMINTEE v PEARSE OG 24thAug. Carrickcruppin - 7.30pm has been moved to Athletic Grounds at 6.30 24th August.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on August 20, 2013, 02:06:29 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on August 10, 2013, 09:43:28 PM
Portadown Tir Na Nog carried on their unbeaten league form with an intermediate championship win over Shane O'Neills by a point tonight! Must be Armagh club of the year!

A club who should be competing at senior level year in, year out with the talent at their disposal. . Add a championship victory and a run in Ulster to the league title then you're talking.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on August 24, 2013, 01:20:44 AM
Granemore beat Harps,and St Patrick's only just beat Whitecross with the help of a very late goal.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on August 30, 2013, 11:10:07 PM
Portadown Tir Na Nog march on! Beat Grange by 0-15 to 2-6 to win place in Intrmediate Championship semi final!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on August 31, 2013, 08:08:39 PM
Madden and Mullaghbawn join Tir Na Nog and St Pauls in intermediate semi finals.Big shock Lurgan Clans losing to Mullaghbawn!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Oraisteach on August 31, 2013, 09:08:10 PM
Anyone know the outcome of today's county hurling final between the Cuchulainns and Keady?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on August 31, 2013, 09:27:59 PM
Outcome not available,principally due to the fact that the match takes place tomorrow,Sunday,at 4pm ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Oraisteach on August 31, 2013, 10:05:11 PM
Thanks, Tony.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on September 01, 2013, 09:35:42 PM
Intermediate Championship semi final draw

Mullaghbawn V Madden
Tir Na Nog V St Pauls
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on September 01, 2013, 10:31:35 PM
Link to Hurling final photos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157635330968299/
Title: Craobh Rua v Sean Treacy's Junior Hurling Final Photos
Post by: emainmacha on September 04, 2013, 10:32:06 PM
Craobh Rua v Sean Treacy's Junior Hurling Final Photos

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157635386277342/
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: emainmacha on September 05, 2013, 03:06:51 PM
One year on and no word of Hurling finals that I've seen (other than link I posted to photos) sad that more people not go to look at 2 county finals, though hard to draw the "I might go to that" when up against an All Ireland football semi final and double headed soccer on TV.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: T Fearon on September 05, 2013, 03:19:49 PM
They were both streamed live on Armagh TV.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: nrico2006 on September 05, 2013, 03:35:37 PM
Not much talk about the hurling, there will probably be a few photos on the Armagh GAA site along with highlights from the streams aswell.  Don't think there is any reports out yet though for the two games.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: T Fearon on September 05, 2013, 03:57:15 PM
Would be surprised if there aren't any reports in some of the Observer Newspaper titles (Armagh Observer/Lurgan and Portadown Examiner) and the Ulster Gazette.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: emainmacha on September 05, 2013, 09:05:28 PM
Not much on here though, replay for senior match on Thursday 19th for those who feel like supporting a bit of hurling in county
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Throw ball on September 05, 2013, 09:31:27 PM
Quote from: emainmacha on September 05, 2013, 09:05:28 PM
Not much on here though, replay for senior match on Thursday 19th for those who feel like supporting a bit of hurling in county

Despite the clash with Kerry v Dublin there was a fair crowd at the match. The official website said 6600 also watched it on Armagh TV. Must say I thought £10 in was a bit steep though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on September 10, 2013, 12:17:46 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on September 01, 2013, 09:35:42 PM
Intermediate Championship semi final draw

Mullaghbawn V Madden
Tir Na Nog V St Pauls

when are these games?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on September 10, 2013, 03:58:27 PM
Friday and Saturday 20th and 21st Sept,thought exact date and time for each match not yet confirmed
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on September 11, 2013, 03:50:07 PM
crupps this weekend at 13/8 good odds in a 2 horse race
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cold tea on September 12, 2013, 02:13:02 PM
What time is Cross v Ogs on Friday Night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ogshead on September 12, 2013, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Cold tea on September 12, 2013, 02:13:02 PM
What time is Cross v Ogs on Friday Night.

8 pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DrinkingHarp on September 13, 2013, 01:41:49 AM
Is this to pay for Tony's feed?

http://www.armaghgaa.net/armaghtv/


PS
Tony speak more into the Microphone, second half you were off a little.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on September 13, 2013, 06:14:06 AM
Technical issues!
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: emainmacha on September 13, 2013, 09:04:00 PM
Sure that wasn't 660 at game? only a handful in seated area and about a dozen behind one goal with no one in other stand or goal areas
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: Throw ball on September 14, 2013, 01:38:48 AM
Quote from: emainmacha on September 13, 2013, 09:04:00 PM
Sure that wasn't 660 at game? only a handful in seated area and about a dozen behind one goal with no one in other stand or goal areas

I was referring to the online viewer numbers.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on September 20, 2013, 10:50:38 PM
Tir Na Nog 0-11 St Pauls 0-11 Intermediate semi final tonight
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 24, 2013, 05:07:22 PM
Portadown are lucky to have the unbeaten run still in tact!

Hard to call a winner for the replay. On paper it would be Tir na nOg; but I think they've been very unconvincing in the latter part of the season.

In any case I'll be keeping a close eye as the outcome of this championship impacts on my club's fate next year!

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on September 27, 2013, 07:11:19 AM
Neither St Pauls or Tir Na Nog deserved to win or lose the first game,and Tir Na Nog certainly didn't warrant being 4/11 favourites.Boylesports still prices it 4/9 Tir Na Nog 9/4 St Pauls for the replay.Certainly wouldnt wager a wad of cash on the outcome.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on September 29, 2013, 07:06:20 PM
Good wins for Tir Na Nog and Annaghmore to claim places in the Armagh Intermediate and Junior Finals respectively today! If Maghery could get over Cross it would mean that all three clubs from the 7 mile Portadown-Annaghmore-Maghery radius, will be appearing in the three County finals.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: under the bar on September 29, 2013, 07:20:53 PM
Armagh people should stick to hurling cos unless they are from Cross or have blood relatives from Tyrone they will be crap at football. Fact.  Its one of the laws of biology. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 29, 2013, 07:49:32 PM
Sure there must be some Tyrone in the water up about Maghery.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 29, 2013, 07:54:42 PM
Did Portadown play well? Didn't make the game, was the 5 point margin deserved?

Most people had the winners of this game as favourites for the final but I have a sneaky suspicion that Madden will win.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 29, 2013, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 29, 2013, 07:49:32 PM
Sure there must be some Tyrone in the water up about Maghery.
That would explain a lot.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on September 30, 2013, 12:05:39 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on September 29, 2013, 07:06:20 PM
Good wins for Tir Na Nog and Annaghmore to claim places in the Armagh Intermediate and Junior Finals respectively today! If Maghery could get over Cross it would mean that all three clubs from the 7 mile Portadown-Annaghmore-Maghery radius, will be appearing in the three County finals.

Good to see "Cheer" na nog winning today.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 30, 2013, 12:17:21 AM
Be a shame now if Tír na nÓg didn't go all the way.

When is the last time a team went unbeaten in competitive football all year in Armagh? Did Cross do it in the last few years?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on September 30, 2013, 07:33:45 AM
Don't know.I remember Tir Na Nog beating Cross in the League some years ago.Great achievement all the same,and hopefully they keep it going for the final!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 30, 2013, 12:22:17 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 30, 2013, 12:17:21 AM
Be a shame now if Tír na nÓg didn't go all the way.

When is the last time a team went unbeaten in competitive football all year in Armagh? Did Cross do it in the last few years?

I don't know about recently but we didn't lose a game from around June 1995 to October 1997, 1 full season and about another full season spaced over 2 seasons.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 03, 2013, 04:46:04 PM
All three big games live on Armagh TV this weekend

Friday night: Cross V Maghery - SFC Semi Final - 8pm

Saturday night: Nab V St Patrick's - SFC Semi Final 7pm

Sunday Afternoon: Tir Na Nog V Madden - IFC Final - 4pm
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 03, 2013, 11:10:43 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 03, 2013, 04:46:04 PM
All three big games live on Armagh TV this weekend

Friday night: Cross V Maghery - SFC Semi Final - 8pm

Saturday night: Nab V St Patrick's - SFC Semi Final 7pm

Sunday Afternoon: Tir Na Nog V Madden - IFC Final - 4pm

Cross -5 evens, good bet Tony?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 04, 2013, 10:42:18 AM
You would think so, but they only beat Maghery by 5 last year in the quarter final, with a stronger team and Maghery not as well developed as they are this year. Price is about right at evens with a minus 5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2013, 11:38:16 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 04, 2013, 10:42:18 AM
You would think so, but they only beat Maghery by 5 last year in the quarter final, with a stronger team and Maghery not as well developed as they are this year. Price is about right at evens with a minus 5

Looked at that result and also took into account the hammering they give Pearse Og's (the second favs) Was talking to an Antrim lad that took the game in, he said Cross were very good that day, Og's started well in both half's and Cross blew them away in mid way through both half's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cold tea on October 04, 2013, 11:49:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2013, 11:38:16 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 04, 2013, 10:42:18 AM
You would think so, but they only beat Maghery by 5 last year in the quarter final, with a stronger team and Maghery not as well developed as they are this year. Price is about right at evens with a minus 5

Looked at that result and also took into account the hammering they give Pearse Og's (the second favs) Was talking to an Antrim lad that took the game in, he said Cross were very good that day, Og's started well in both half's and Cross blew them away in mid way through both half's

Must have been at a different game to me, Cross never got out of second gear, not one person turned up for the Ogs, they were truely awful throughout the team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2013, 11:57:46 AM
Quote from: Cold tea on October 04, 2013, 11:49:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2013, 11:38:16 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 04, 2013, 10:42:18 AM
You would think so, but they only beat Maghery by 5 last year in the quarter final, with a stronger team and Maghery not as well developed as they are this year. Price is about right at evens with a minus 5

Looked at that result and also took into account the hammering they give Pearse Og's (the second favs) Was talking to an Antrim lad that took the game in, he said Cross were very good that day, Og's started well in both half's and Cross blew them away in mid way through both half's

Must have been at a different game to me, Cross never got out of second gear, not one person turned up for the Ogs, they were truely awful throughout the team.

He sai they started brightly, did they score first few scores each half?  Cross were very good or rubbish?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cold tea on October 04, 2013, 12:01:29 PM
The Ogs were terrible, Cross were in cruise mode, I am sure they had loads left in the tank but they didn't need to get out off second gear.  The Og's played for about 8 minutes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 04, 2013, 12:02:13 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2013, 11:57:46 AM
Quote from: Cold tea on October 04, 2013, 11:49:01 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 04, 2013, 11:38:16 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 04, 2013, 10:42:18 AM
You would think so, but they only beat Maghery by 5 last year in the quarter final, with a stronger team and Maghery not as well developed as they are this year. Price is about right at evens with a minus 5

Looked at that result and also took into account the hammering they give Pearse Og's (the second favs) Was talking to an Antrim lad that took the game in, he said Cross were very good that day, Og's started well in both half's and Cross blew them away in mid way through both half's

Must have been at a different game to me, Cross never got out of second gear, not one person turned up for the Ogs, they were truely awful throughout the team.

He sai they started brightly, did they score first few scores each half?  Cross were very good or rubbish?
I thought Cross were rubbish too, Ogs started brightly alright but Cross got goals at vital times that killed the game, Ogs just collapsed after. If Cross played like that again tonight I'd nearly fancy Maghery, but in all truth, anything other than a comfortable Cross victory will be a major shock.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 04, 2013, 12:26:32 PM
Ogs were the better team up until the midway point in the first half, when Crossmaglen got a goal. The problem was that even when they were on top,Ogs never showed any belief or conviction whatsover that they could win the game, and were resigned to their fate midway through the first half, after the goal was conceded

One way or another, I doubt if Crossmaglen will get it as easy tonight as they did against the Ogs. The Maghery manager has also won Senior and Junior Championships with Tyrone clubs.

I really hope that it is a competitive game and not one that is effectively finished at the end of the first quarter
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 04, 2013, 12:38:38 PM
So the infallible JMcM is wrong? He says in today's paper that Maghery manager led Clonoe to Tyrone SFC?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 04, 2013, 12:49:29 PM
Was Maghery manager not part of the management team at Clonoe? Also is he related to Kevin?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Knock Yer Mucker In on October 04, 2013, 01:01:22 PM
Cassidy managed us to win 2008 championship. On his return from Derry he took us to the county final 2011 where we lost by one fecking point. Big Sean was his assistant, he went to Maghery last year. Big Sean would know his football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 04, 2013, 01:08:03 PM
Who'd he win the Tyrone junior with?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Knock Yer Mucker In on October 04, 2013, 01:19:17 PM
Killyman
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bigtogs on October 04, 2013, 01:21:13 PM
he also worked with derrytresk behind the scenes when they won tyrone and ulster junior
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 04, 2013, 02:21:45 PM
So it's Big Joe V Big Sean tonight? Will Big Sean lead his men to a Big Shock? Will Big Joe lead his men to another Big win? It'll be a big night for one of the two big men!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cold tea on October 04, 2013, 02:37:46 PM
Will the same ridiculous queueing system be in operation?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 04, 2013, 02:58:47 PM
Get there early, and avoid the queue!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sammymaguire on October 04, 2013, 09:27:04 PM
The Cross Rangers steam train rolls on 0-15 Maghery 1-9
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Post by: S.Poacher2012 on October 04, 2013, 10:07:26 PM
Innovative Coaching Clinic not to be missed!   

All GAA coaches and managers are always looking to gain that extra edge on their opponents, searching for that latest training craze or fad, touring the country to seminars, conferences and courses in pursuit of an increase to their coaching knowledge. 

On Saturday November 9th 2013, Steven Poacher, Head of PE in St Columbans Kilkeel will give you that opportunity with the "St Columbans GAA Coaching Clinic." The focus of the clinic will look at tackling and the implications of the black card when coaching the tackle. 

On the day coaches will have the opportunity to observe a practical outdoor session labelled "Tackling for Success" which will include 10 different exclusive tackling drills and games demonstrated by a panel of players. After the practical session coaches will then have an opportunity to avail of the expert opinion of last years Down and Armagh senior football team captains, Mark Poland & Ciaran Mc Keever respectively who will give a unique insight into the implications of the black card which is sure to cause a lot of controversy in its implementation. 

The previous coaching clinics hosted by the school were a huge success and indeed when held this time last year over 80 coaches from every county in the province attended a hugely successful day at the school in Kilkeel. 

The event is open to all coaches of any age level be it school, club or county or any code as the games and drills on show will be easily transferrable to both Camogie and Hurling. The day commences at 10am and will finish at approximately 12.30pm on the Saturday morning 9th November and the cost of the day is £10 which can be made payable on the day and includes, tea/coffee and an information booklet. It's certainly an information packed morning not to be missed and proceeds from the day will go towards the development of GAA within the school. For more information or to confirm a place please either text or mail Steven Poacher on 07779780919 or stevepoacher@hotmail.com. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 04, 2013, 10:25:38 PM
Maghery had Cross rattled in the last ten minutes of the first half.Pity they couldn't keep it going in the second half.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BennyCake on October 05, 2013, 12:17:13 AM
Quote from: Cold tea on October 04, 2013, 02:37:46 PM
Will the same ridiculous queueing system be in operation?

What's this now?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 05, 2013, 01:29:29 PM
Enjoyed last night, a good test for a depleted Cross, Maghery will probably rue a few chances early on but I thought they were excellent to come back from 6 pts down to enter half time level.

From their perspective halftime probably came too soon as they had their tails up at that stage and Cross were starting to lose focus a bit getting involved with handbags etc. It was telling that Maghery stayed on the pitch to let Cross go in first to avoid potential fisticuffs in the tunnel, usually it is Cross that do that!

The second half wasn't as good as the first, Maghery showed inexperience conceding silly scorable frees as well as having other frees moved in for petulance, criminal if you're to have any chance of beating Cross. This inevitably led to them having a 4/5 point cushion that they were never really going to relinquish in the final ten. Maghery had a genuine shout for a penalty turned down and instead a free out given; thems the kind of breaks that Cross seem to always get but as they say you make your own luck. Can't see them beat in the final in any case, not sure how they'll progress in Ulster though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 06, 2013, 07:06:20 PM
Madden 0-15 Tir Na Nog 2-6 Intermediate Final today.Tir Na Nog led by seven after two Paul Carvill goals in first half but only scored a meagre two points in second half,though were denied a cast iron penalty deep into injury time near the end of the game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on October 06, 2013, 08:40:02 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 06, 2013, 07:06:20 PM
Madden 0-15 Tir Na Nog 2-6 Intermediate Final today.Tir Na Nog led by seven after two Paul Carvill goals in first half but only scored a meagre two points in second half,though were denied a cast iron penalty deep into injury time near the end of the game.

The incident at the end was never a penalty. The big no.14 got the ball, turned and the second he felt contact just fell to the ground. Better team won.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 06, 2013, 09:07:56 PM
Didn't get a clear view of the penalty incident but have to agree the better team won.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on October 06, 2013, 09:32:27 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 06, 2013, 09:07:56 PM
Didn't get a clear view of the penalty incident but have to agree the better team won.

Was it not a "cast iron" penalty according to your previous post?  ;)

Some unsavoury scenes afterwards involving the ref, never nice to see.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 06, 2013, 11:10:27 PM
Agree with that.Too many blaming referee,when TNN allowed themselves to be smothered by Madden's second half tactics and had no leaders when the chips were down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on October 07, 2013, 01:19:40 PM
It was an absolute stonewall penalty, in fact there were two offences for which a penalty should have been given, the foul on the no 14 and the pull across another player while attempting to pick the ball up. Gerard Devlin should be ashamed of his performance as should the county board be for appointing someone as incompetent to such an important match. I believe he also gave an inept performance in the Cross/Maghery game on Friday night.

Saying that, congratulations to Madden, they deserved it. Tír na nÓg should not have given the ref the chance to influence the result but injuries to a number of key players and the effects of 3 tough games in 3 weeks took hold in the second half.

Agreed, the scenes after the game, although understandable, were inexcusable.

It's a pity what was a fantastic season for the club had to end in such disappointing fashion.

The best of luck to Madden in the Ulster championship against Forglen of Derry.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nrico2006 on October 07, 2013, 01:26:37 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on October 07, 2013, 01:19:40 PM
It was an absolute stonewall penalty, in fact there were two offences for which a penalty should have been given, the foul on the no 14 and the pull across another player while attempting to pick the ball up. Gerard Devlin should be ashamed of his performance as should the county board be for appointing someone as incompetent to such an important match. I believe he also gave an inept performance in the Cross/Maghery game on Friday night.

Saying that, congratulations to Madden, they deserved it. Tír na nÓg should not have given the ref the chance to influence the result but injuries to a number of key players and the effects of 3 tough games in 3 weeks took hold in the second half.

Agreed, the scenes after the game, although understandable, were inexcusable.

It's a pity what was a fantastic season for the club had to end in such disappointing fashion.

The best of luck to Madden in the Ulster championship against Forglen of Derry.

Is that the same Devlin who referees the hurling too?  If so, never seen anyone worse in the 7 or 8 games I have ever been involve din that he has been over. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on October 07, 2013, 02:09:47 PM
Yes, the very man.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on October 08, 2013, 08:23:47 AM
What were the unsavoury scenes? Ronan McAlinden is a very good friend of mine, I texted him last night but he is apparently still too pissed off to reply
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on October 08, 2013, 11:41:39 AM
There was a bit of jostling the ref after the game and some plastic coke bottles were thrown in his direction.

Tooter has every right to be pissed off, considering the effort he and the players put in all year, after going through the league unbeaten to lose the championship final in such circumstances must be absolutely galling.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 08, 2013, 12:27:07 PM
Ulster Gazette report today points out that Madden were superior in three of the four quarters of the game and suggests that the referee may have brandished a red card early to cut out the nonsense, as the field resembled Aintree on Grand National Day on occasions, as there were so many bodies on the floor. It did emphasise that Madden overall deserved the win. Hard to argue with any of these points.

Just a game too far for Tir Na Nog in a long hard season. Best now to move on, celebrate an outstanding season and get ready for next year, where the priority must be to consolidate the senior league position.
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Post by: T Fearon on October 08, 2013, 02:38:30 PM
lol! I doubt it! ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on October 08, 2013, 02:53:35 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on October 08, 2013, 11:41:39 AM
There was a bit of jostling the ref after the game and some plastic coke bottles were thrown in his direction.

Tooter has every right to be pissed off, considering the effort he and the players put in all year, after going through the league unbeaten to lose the championship final in such circumstances must be absolutely galling.

was tooter involved? He told me on Sunday morning that it was going to be a 50/50 game. I live in Manchester so couldnt get watching
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 08, 2013, 03:24:32 PM
Haven't you heard of Armagh TV? All major games streamed live, including last Sunday's :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on October 08, 2013, 04:30:41 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 08, 2013, 02:53:35 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on October 08, 2013, 11:41:39 AM
There was a bit of jostling the ref after the game and some plastic coke bottles were thrown in his direction.

Tooter has every right to be pissed off, considering the effort he and the players put in all year, after going through the league unbeaten to lose the championship final in such circumstances must be absolutely galling.

was tooter involved? He told me on Sunday morning that it was going to be a 50/50 game. I live in Manchester so couldnt get watching

I don't believe so, I'd say he probably had some words to say to him as he was escorted off the field.  I cannot emphasise how incompetent the ref was and whether by accident or design he unduly influenced the result. Who knows had the game been refereed competently, the result may well have been different.

I kind of feel sorry for Madden as all anyone is talking about is the performance of the referee.

Thankfully my broadband connection is so slow I cannot watch Armagh TV!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on October 09, 2013, 08:24:30 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 08, 2013, 03:24:32 PM
Haven't you heard of Armagh TV? All major games streamed live, including last Sunday's :o

yeah, tooter told me about that Sunday morning but I wasnt able to get to the internet.
I think I will give him a call tonight see what the craic is
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Post by: county derry post on October 10, 2013, 12:11:46 PM
Ten of Ulster's foremost GAA personalities will be on hand this Saturday as the 'Superstars Challenge' is officially launched at Bellaghy GAA (11am).



Based on the International Superstars idea, the event is an all-around sports competition that pits elite athletes from different sports against one another in a series of athletic events resembling a decathlon.

With the Challenge due to take place on 28th December, all proceeds raised will go to Marie Curie Cancer Care – an organisation playing a vital role in supporting cancer sufferers and their families.

The organisers believe the event – a first for the GAA – will capture the imagination of the general public building up to the unique December show-down.

Former Derry footballer and member of the organising committee, Ronan Rocks, explained what the next few months will involve:

"We will have our launch this weekend but that's only the start.

"The key fundraising campaign centres around ten star GAA players from throughout Ulster participating in a series of events throughout the day. We feel this event will appeal to the wider community. To have ten high profile sporting stars competing against each other in a unique event will obtain the much needed funds as well as generate a vast awareness of the event and associated sponsors throughout."

Already ahead of the game, organisers have set up Twitter (@SuperSCh) and Facebook pages to keep people informed and up to date with latest developments.

Ten local companies have already agreed sponsorship of the participants and it is hoped that the wider public will contribute further to what will be a unique event this December.

The 2013 event will also seek to raise awareness for another worthy cause, as Rocks explains:

"We have also decided that through this campaign we want to continue to raise awareness for the "Opt for Life" campaign and we are delighted to have Joe Brolly, who is a strong campaigner for this worthy cause, within our fundraising committee." explained Rocks.

Further event information and background

Athletes can compete in up to eight of the ten events, with no-one generally allowed to take part in their own sport, although some handicapping rules do apply.

Competitors participate in a range of different sporting events, including a 100m sprint, 800 metres (0.50 mi) run, obstacle course or Steeplechase, weightlifting, football, rowing, tennis, basketball, bicycle racing, shooting and swimming. The sports used have varied over time and between the various international competitions.

Points are awarded for the position in which the competitor places in each event. The competitor with the most points at the end of all the events is declared the champion.

How would you like to see Ulster GAA's Finest compete in such an event???

Could Ryan Bell beat Marty McGrath in a full length of the field sprint???

Could Aaron Kernan do more press ups than Michael McCann???

Could Owen Mulligan bench press more than Kieran Hughes???

Just some of the examples that only a Superstars challenge could bring!

Competitors:

(1) Ryan Bell (Derry) Nicholl Oils
(2) Owen Mulligan (Tyrone) O'Neills
(3) Michael McCann (Antrim) Creagh Concrete
(4) Eamon McGee (Donegal) H & A Mechanical
(5) Darren Hughes (Monaghan) Bannvale Credit Union
(6) Kevin McKernan (Down) Mac Trailers
(7) Marty McGrath (Fermanagh) DPD
(8) Marty Dunne (Cavan) Kingspan
(9) Aaron Kernan (Armagh) SDC
(10) Fergal Doherty (Bellaghy) Specialist Joinery Fittings
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: emainmacha on December 05, 2013, 02:05:52 PM
Photos Ulster Minor Final 2013
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/sets/72157638379143644/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on January 13, 2014, 10:10:19 PM
Full Draw. Couple of good derbies and then what can/will only be described as potential boxing matches. Harps and Ogs looks to be tie of the championship!

TMET Senior Club Championship First Round Draw
Dromintee v Cullyhanna
Ballymacnab v Granemore
Shane O'Neills v Annaghmore
Whitecross v Tir na Nog
Maghery v Killeavy
Crossmaglen v Sarsfield
Armagh Harps v Pearse Ogs
Carrickcruppen v Madden

TMET Intermediate Club Championship First Round Draw
Clonmore v Silverbridge
Wolfe Tone v Clann Eireann
Forkhill v Eire Og
An Port Mor v Lissummon
Mullaghbawn v Middletown
Cullaville v Grange
St Peters v Derrynoose
St Pauls v Clan na Gael

TMET Junior Club Championship Preliminary Round Draw
Killeavy II's v Crossmaglen II's

TMET Junior Club Championship First Round Draw
Ballyhegan v Killeavy II's/Crossmaglen II's
Collegeland v St Michaels Newtownhamilton
Belleek v Dorsey Emmetts
O'Hanlon's v Dromintee II's
Clann Eireann II's v Keady
Thomas Davis v Pearse Og II
Killean v Tullysaran
Clady v St Patricks II
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: crossfire on January 22, 2014, 07:23:27 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 13, 2014, 10:10:19 PM
Full Draw. Couple of good derbies and then what can/will only be described as potential boxing matches. Harps and Ogs looks to be tie of the championship!TMET Senior Club Championship First Round Draw
Dromintee v Cullyhanna
Ballymacnab v Granemore
Shane O'Neills v Annaghmore
Whitecross v Tir na Nog
Maghery v Killeavy
Crossmaglen v Sarsfield
Armagh Harps v Pearse Ogs
Carrickcruppen v Madden

TMET Intermediate Club Championship First Round Draw
Clonmore v Silverbridge
Wolfe Tone v Clann Eireann
Forkhill v Eire Og
An Port Mor v Lissummon
Mullaghbawn v Middletown
Cullaville v Grange
St Peters v Derrynoose
St Pauls v Clan na Gael

TMET Junior Club Championship Preliminary Round Draw
Killeavy II's v Crossmaglen II's

TMET Junior Club Championship First Round Draw
Ballyhegan v Killeavy II's/Crossmaglen II's
Collegeland v St Michaels Newtownhamilton
Belleek v Dorsey Emmetts
O'Hanlon's v Dromintee II's
Clann Eireann II's v Keady
Thomas Davis v Pearse Og II
Killean v Tullysaran
Clady v St Patricks II
Would have been in previous years but meaningless in a back door system.
Title: Re: The Death of Club Hurling in Armagh?
Post by: emainmacha on February 18, 2014, 09:22:53 PM
Few photos of Armagh v Down Hurling

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16144312@N07/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stiffler on March 11, 2014, 09:23:17 PM
Any north/mid Armagh teams interested in an u16 challenge game pm me.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on March 29, 2014, 01:55:44 AM
Such a shame that such a thread has come so dorment
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Black Card on April 06, 2014, 05:45:41 PM
The apathy is akin to the apathy within the Armagh squad!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on April 06, 2014, 09:08:06 PM
Anyone dreading Division 3?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Black Card on April 07, 2014, 09:36:08 AM
When is the last time Armagh was in Division 3?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on April 07, 2014, 10:01:11 AM
I like many other Armagh fans have given up on this current managerial setup. Grimley is hanging on with McGeeney in the wings. That in itself is bound to seep into the panel. I wouldn't say we have the most talented bunch of players around. But they are better than Division 3 and the sum of their results. The County Board is currently obsessing over it's debt, perhaps correctly. But the county squad is crying out for Tony Mc or Geezer or some one of that ilk to grab it by the scruff and get it going again. Managing a County or even a club team is not a job for one man anymore it requires a combined approach. A swift return to Division 2 is required or the the current debt will pile on as fans and sponsors desert.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on April 08, 2014, 07:19:04 PM
Armagh will win Division 3 next year. I'd near put the house on it. The talent available is simply too good and despite what people say about Grimley I'd have enough confidence in him and his backroom team to let him continue next season.

The match v Donegal on Sunday was certainly there for the taking and if refereed fairly we'd have got something out of it. Add in the Down game and we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

So far this year injuries have taken their toll, I wouldn't fret too much and in fact I am relishing the match v Cavan where I am fairly confident, pending a few returning from injury, that we can progress to the next round.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JimStynes on April 12, 2014, 07:56:29 PM
Terrible news about recently retired Clann Eireann footballer, Gary Murphy, passng away this morning. Only 35! was giving management a hand this year. A real diehard clann eireann man!! RIP
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Mrs mills on April 20, 2014, 09:33:50 AM
So, what can we do on the discussion boards to check the validity of the Sunday Times story that O'Neills has been outsourcing some of its manufacturing to Bangladesh and to implore the GAA to do something about it if true?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Zip Code on June 16, 2014, 11:04:01 AM
All very quiet about the Ogs v Cross U16 match  - surely there are going be real repercussions arising out of this.  Some shocking incidents.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on June 17, 2014, 04:09:57 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on June 16, 2014, 11:04:01 AM
All very quiet about the Ogs v Cross U16 match  - surely there are going be real repercussions arising out of this.  Some shocking incidents.
Nothing on the ArmaghGaa forum either about this incident.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 17, 2014, 05:40:59 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on June 16, 2014, 11:04:01 AM
All very quiet about the Ogs v Cross U16 match  - surely there are going be real repercussions arising out of this.  Some shocking incidents.

Shocking incidents is right from what I heard.  Won't throw out recriminations here as I wasn't there but my son was playing and he didn't paint a pretty picture.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Zip Code on June 18, 2014, 10:01:10 AM
The former player who attacked the 15 year old boy must be in serious trouble.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Oraisteach on June 21, 2014, 01:34:19 AM
So, without naming names, can anyone give a synopsis of what happened?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Zip Code on June 21, 2014, 07:29:09 PM
Two players started a fight, it spilled over and became an almighty free for all, match abandoned, former Cross player attacked and assaulted a 15 year old boy, I believe the PSNI are involved.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on June 25, 2014, 12:08:05 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on June 21, 2014, 07:29:09 PM
Two players started a fight, it spilled over and became an almighty free for all, match abandoned, former Cross player attacked and assaulted a 15 year old boy, I believe the PSNI are involved.

Not good.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 25, 2014, 12:18:15 PM
Quote from: Orior on June 25, 2014, 12:08:05 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on June 21, 2014, 07:29:09 PM
Two players started a fight, it spilled over and became an almighty free for all, match abandoned, former Cross player attacked and assaulted a 15 year old boy, I believe the PSNI are involved.

Not good.

Also not completely true so before you believe everything listen to the facts first.  Zip code has shown he is an angry boy with a chip on his shoulder about something.  There was an incident which is being investigated.  My son was playing in the game and a lot of what is being bandied about is incorrect.  There is also a lot of politics being played in respect of teh investigation and that in itself is a disgrace. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Zip Code on June 25, 2014, 12:22:51 PM
The only bit not completely true I have now learned is the PSNI bit.  If you want to point out any other untruths please post away.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 25, 2014, 12:34:29 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on June 25, 2014, 12:22:51 PM
The only bit not completely true I have now learned is the PSNI bit.  If you want to point out any other untruths please post away.

You answered yourself there.  Also the context of the other things you posted are not quite clear but with an ongoing investigation I will not put anything up here,
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Zip Code on June 25, 2014, 06:02:20 PM
The only reason the PSNI wasn't involved was the parent was persuaded not to and let it be handled by the GAA powers to be - what else did I post that isn't factual?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on June 25, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on June 25, 2014, 06:02:20 PM
The only reason the PSNI wasn't involved was the parent was persuaded not to and let it be handled by the GAA powers to be - what else did I post that isn't factual?

I said I will not put anything more up as there is an ongoing investigation and that is that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Zip Code on June 26, 2014, 07:51:44 AM
You would probably do well to say nothing then instead of alluding to my post as untrue, but offering nothing to back it up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winghalfback on June 26, 2014, 10:32:31 AM
Quote from: Zip Code on June 26, 2014, 07:51:44 AM
You would probably do well to say nothing then instead of alluding to my post as untrue, but offering nothing to back it up.

Sounds like a big pile of nahin that has happened in Tyrone a pile a times and gaa just let it slide by especially with the two clubs involved being big clubs. Happened in a u16 match a few years ago in Omagh, a Cookstown lad claimed he was assaulted at halftime by an opposing team mentor going down the tunnel. Gaa did nothing about it so don't be surprised if same happens here.
On another note what's the feelings in Armagh about this weekends semi final? Confident?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Zip Code on June 26, 2014, 10:37:29 AM
It is one of these things that really rile me about the GAA, instead of dealing with it they try to wash it under the carpet, especially when big clubs are involved.  At under age level they encourage everyone to teach respect and yet they haven't the balls to stand up for the very kids that don't get respect.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Zip Code on August 19, 2014, 06:00:40 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on June 16, 2014, 11:04:01 AM
All very quiet about the Ogs v Cross U16 match  - surely there are going be real repercussions arising out of this.  Some shocking incidents.

Abandoned match replaying tonight in the Athletic grounds - the GAA obviously washed this under the carpet as usual - pathetic really, sends out some message.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 19, 2014, 11:23:24 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on August 19, 2014, 06:00:40 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on June 16, 2014, 11:04:01 AM
All very quiet about the Ogs v Cross U16 match  - surely there are going be real repercussions arising out of this.  Some shocking incidents.

Abandoned match replaying tonight in the Athletic grounds - the GAA obviously washed this under the carpet as usual - pathetic really, sends out some message.

Did you make it to the game tonight?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 20, 2014, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 19, 2014, 11:23:24 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on August 19, 2014, 06:00:40 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on June 16, 2014, 11:04:01 AM
All very quiet about the Ogs v Cross U16 match  - surely there are going be real repercussions arising out of this.  Some shocking incidents.

Abandoned match replaying tonight in the Athletic grounds - the GAA obviously washed this under the carpet as usual - pathetic really, sends out some message.

Did you make it to the game tonight?

I was there and wish I'd brought my ear plugs Jim McC never quit the whole game. Cross far stronger on the ball and took their scores well, too many simple mistakes from the Ogs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 20, 2014, 11:08:52 AM
Quote from: BenDover on August 20, 2014, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 19, 2014, 11:23:24 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on August 19, 2014, 06:00:40 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on June 16, 2014, 11:04:01 AM
All very quiet about the Ogs v Cross U16 match  - surely there are going be real repercussions arising out of this.  Some shocking incidents.

Abandoned match replaying tonight in the Athletic grounds - the GAA obviously washed this under the carpet as usual - pathetic really, sends out some message.

Did you make it to the game tonight?

I was there and wish I'd brought my ear plugs Jim McC never quit the whole game. Cross far stronger on the ball and took their scores well, too many simple mistakes from the Ogs.

I'd say it was all encouragement too!!!!  He can be very hard on his own fella as well but it seems to be working alright. 

I would agree though we were stronger on the ball but more than anything I felt we had a better balanced team.  Ogs have 3-4 excellent players who would be the strongest players on most teams in the county but they seem to try to do everything themselves.  Our boys played very well as a unit with the 'weaker' players contributing consistently.  I felt the Ogs stronger players don't have the confidence in their 'weaker' team mates.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BenDover on August 21, 2014, 08:07:00 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 20, 2014, 11:08:52 AM
Quote from: BenDover on August 20, 2014, 10:59:56 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 19, 2014, 11:23:24 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on August 19, 2014, 06:00:40 PM
Quote from: Zip Code on June 16, 2014, 11:04:01 AM
All very quiet about the Ogs v Cross U16 match  - surely there are going be real repercussions arising out of this.  Some shocking incidents.

Abandoned match replaying tonight in the Athletic grounds - the GAA obviously washed this under the carpet as usual - pathetic really, sends out some message.

Did you make it to the game tonight?

I was there and wish I'd brought my ear plugs Jim McC never quit the whole game. Cross far stronger on the ball and took their scores well, too many simple mistakes from the Ogs.

I'd say it was all encouragement too!!!!  He can be very hard on his own fella as well but it seems to be working alright. 

I would agree though we were stronger on the ball but more than anything I felt we had a better balanced team.  Ogs have 3-4 excellent players who would be the strongest players on most teams in the county but they seem to try to do everything themselves.  Our boys played very well as a unit with the 'weaker' players contributing consistently.  I felt the Ogs stronger players don't have the confidence in their 'weaker' team mates.

Don't think anyone who seen the game could argue with that, and after seeing boys go on mazy solo runs to end up easily turning the ball over instead of laying it off to boys in a better position, or kicking it hopelessly wide must be frustrating for the 'stronger' players
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laceer on August 27, 2014, 09:10:07 PM
Are Armagh TV showing any games this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 27, 2014, 09:53:29 PM
Quote from: laceer on August 27, 2014, 09:10:07 PM
Are Armagh TV showing any games this year?

http://armaghgaa.net/forum/threads/linwoods-armagh-tv-club-championship-coverage.3680/page-2
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laceer on August 27, 2014, 10:03:31 PM
Cheers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bigtogs on August 27, 2014, 10:10:06 PM
will tune in just to watch ollie hearty referee... he is lethal.... Cross will hardly be stopped!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on September 20, 2014, 12:32:33 AM
Ráiteas ar Son Bhord Condae Ard Mhacha
Ba mhaith le Bord Condae Ard Mhacha leithscéal a ghabháil le gach duine a thaisteal go Páirc Lúthchleas Ard Mhacha don chluiche ceathrú ceannais den Chraobh Shinsear idir Dromainn Tí agus Raonaithe na Croise.
Chuir Club Dhromainn Tí in iúl do Bhord an Chondae nach mbeadh an club ábalta ach foireann i bhfad ní ba laige a chur chun na páirce siocair nach raibh imreoirí ón phainéal sinsearach s'acu ar fáil.
Statement on behalf of Armagh County Board of The GAA
Armagh County Board would like to apologise to patrons who travelled to the Armagh Athletic Grounds for the scheduled Senior Championship Quarter Final fixture between Dromintee club and Crossmaglen Rangers.
The Dromintee Club informed the County Board at approximately 7 p.m. on Friday evening, the evening of the game, that they could only field a much weakened team due to the unavailability of its senior panel.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on September 20, 2014, 12:44:47 AM
Quote from: hardstation on September 20, 2014, 12:38:42 AM
Those statements don't match.

Roughly translated it says " this is just a complete farce, a total embarrassment but it's got nothing to do with us, shame on Dromintee, nobody's fault only their own, ok we could have changed the game for Dromintee cos of the wedding but we were never going to do that, especially when it was Cross that was involved - don't blame us for taking your money at the gate knowing that it was going to be a complete joke of a match - blame Dromintee."

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on September 20, 2014, 12:52:32 AM
And we're keeping the money so tough shit.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on September 20, 2014, 01:13:10 AM
Quote from: orangeman on September 20, 2014, 12:52:32 AM
And we're keeping the money so tough shit.

I was at the match and did not see anyone charged in. Gate was open for free entry.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 20, 2014, 08:48:44 AM
Wind your neck in Orangeman. I don't see how we can be brought into this in anyway. We offered to move the game but Dromintee didn't make any official approach to the club. They went on a solo run and embarrassed themselves and Armagh gaa. We did what we had to do, they didn't. And throw ball is right. There was free entry to the game so no one made any money out of it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on September 20, 2014, 09:32:37 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 20, 2014, 08:48:44 AM
Wind your neck in Orangeman. I don't see how we can be brought into this in anyway. We offered to move the game but Dromintee didn't make any official approach to the club. They went on a solo run and embarrassed themselves and Armagh gaa. We did what we had to do, they didn't. And throw ball is right. There was free entry to the game so no one made any money out of it!

I'm not trying to take a go at Cross BC. CCC made a stance to insist on the game going ahead. If, as you are saying that Cross offered to move the game in order to accommodate your opponents this accentuates the bureaucratic position adopted by CCC. Last night was therefore avoidable but CCC decided to put the head down and plough on. Dromintee obviously felt very strongly about being forced to play on a date they had asked to be vacated and put the wedding before a championship game.

Why did the county board statement say that the county board that Dromintee only contacted them at 7pm yesterday evening which doesn't seem right especially as Cross had offered to move the game ?.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on September 20, 2014, 11:43:01 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 20, 2014, 08:48:44 AM
Wind your neck in Orangeman. I don't see how we can be brought into this in anyway. We offered to move the game but Dromintee didn't make any official approach to the club. They went on a solo run and embarrassed themselves and Armagh gaa. We did what we had to do, they didn't. And throw ball is right. There was free entry to the game so no one made any money out of it!

Actually dromintee claim cross point blank refused to change the game because Jamie Clarke goes on another holiday this morning
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on September 20, 2014, 12:01:46 PM
The game should have been played mid-week to accommodate simple as!

Unless half the Dromintee players replied to their wedding invites on Friday morning I doubt they would have delayed asking the CB for a re-fixture! 

Also I doubt cross would have point blanked refused for Clarke's sake as the result would have been inevitable in my opinion, but if they did..... 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The GAA on September 20, 2014, 01:18:43 PM

They did. They also refused midweek because tony kernan works in England.

I actually don't believe cross should have done a or b. I'm just relaying the facts.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 20, 2014, 05:48:24 PM
Firstly, Cross are not obliged to agree to a re-fix, and in any case according to the county website had already given sufficient notice that they wouldn't be able to play any fixtures that would have been put down for tonight. They are obviously going to be ruthless in scenarios such as this anyway so whether they or anyone else claim that they were/weren't willing to accommodate Dromintee is immaterial in my eyes.

Dromintee however have my sympathies given the way their championship season has panned out. Having been defeated by Cullyhanna in the first round of the SFC, from what I can gather they were then made to wait 3 weeks for their qualifier against Pearse Óg due to the Ógs having a player involved in the hurling final, before disposing of them and a seriously weakened Cruppen side who potentially didn't fancy meeting Cross again. The club as a whole are coming in for a lot of flack but I admire them, the result may well have been the same had they fielded a full strength team but the lack of common sense displayed by the CCC/CB which has led to this farce has been shocking.

The argument from the powers that be seems to be that they did not want to open a can of worms and set a precedent for future scenarios, which I think is balls. Surely the pragmatic approach would have been to make an exception given the circumstances, because if Dromintee are to be believed; they informed the CCC before they had even reached the QF that they would have difficulty with any fixture on Friday 19th. Had the CB/CCC just did this from the off our county wouldnt be the centre of ridicule right now - in fact no one would be none the wiser bar Cross maybe, who have had enough favours over the years anyway!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on September 20, 2014, 06:41:19 PM
Half time tonight Harps 3-8 Shane O'Neills 0-0,and Shane O'Neills have their full senior team playing,all of whom are wearing shorts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on September 22, 2014, 10:25:27 AM
Absolutely no sympathy for Dromitee. Their players have no pride in the club otherwise they would have turned up. I'd bet if they hadn't been facing a tanking it might have been different.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Zip Code on September 22, 2014, 03:24:49 PM
Why would the county board not change it, are you not allowed to go to a wedding now if you play club football?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on September 22, 2014, 04:02:50 PM
Monday's Dromintee players statement said that they had taken the decision not to play in the game two days before the fixture.

"After speaking with the club chairman and two other committee members it was agreed the county board should be notified of this," added the statement.

"This decision was not taken lightly and was in response to a number of decisions by the Armagh Competitions Control Committee throughout the championship which we deem to have been unfair and disrespectful to Dromintee GAC."

The Dromintee statement said that earlier in the summer, they had twice agreed to postpone one of their championship matches to accommodate a dual player in the opposition team.

"In the interest of the player and fairness, we were happy to comply despite this resulting in several players having to cancel pre-arranged holidays.

"Our only stipulation was that the eventual fixture would avoid a particular Friday evening so that a number of our younger players could attend an important school function.

"This request was ultimately ignored by the CCC and we fielded minus three players.


"The community rallied so that we would be able to at least field in this fixture"

Dromintee senior football panel statement

"Having come through our final qualifier last weekend we were then faced with the prospect six days later of a direct clash with a family wedding within the team that included two brothers in the bridal party and nine players most very closely acquainted with the groom and family circle.

"Representations were made to the Armagh CCC after our first-round qualifier to avoid a clash before provisional fixtures were set in stone.

"Any possible date bar the one chosen would have met our request under both the spirit and rules of the association. No accommodation was made."

The Dromintee said that continuing efforts to convince the Armagh authorities to re-schedule the game were made but that these were met by a "brick wall on each occasion".

"An agreement could not be made with our opposition [Crossmaglen] at that late stage as they had made player travel and holiday arrangements around the original fixture.

"The rules and guides set out for the CCC in Armagh have been very loosely applied and certainly not to suit Dromintee GAC.

"Like every club team in the country we have spent many months preparing together for this championship campaign, wear the Dromintee jersey with great pride and did not arrive at this decision lightly.

"Having been treated so contemptuously by the Armagh CCC we preferred to support the two central players fielding would have deprived us.

"Our progress through the championship has been marked by togetherness and unity and we chose to stand by the same principle we had played with."

The Dromintee statement said that the threat of heavy sanctions from the Armagh county board for not playing the fixture "forced" their club to cobble together a team from veteran members.

Some reports have suggested that the club was in danger of facing a total suspension for 48 weeks which would have affected under-age grades as well.

"As a small rural club, and with the restriction of our junior players being unable to play due to next year's championship commitments, the community rallied so that we would be able to at least field in this fixture."
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Zip Code on September 22, 2014, 04:18:20 PM
Good to see Armagh County Board is a joke as always, nothing every changes.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tyrone Gaa on September 23, 2014, 12:35:05 PM
Is there a proposed date for the senior county final in Armagh?  Just interested.  Cant find it on the county website
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on September 23, 2014, 02:47:10 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on September 23, 2014, 12:35:05 PM
Is there a proposed date for the senior county final in Armagh?  Just interested.  Cant find it on the county website
The County Board are currently consulting the wedding planners in the clubs still in the championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tyrone Gaa on September 24, 2014, 11:43:55 AM
Ha Ha very good!!  Tyrone County final this weekend and I was thinking it must be soon.  If anyone does know can they post it on the message board.  Cheers
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2014, 09:21:49 AM
Quote from: AFS on September 24, 2014, 10:34:48 PM
Quote from: Tyrone Gaa on September 23, 2014, 12:35:05 PM
Is there a proposed date for the senior county final in Armagh?  Just interested.  Cant find it on the county website

19th October

We have to check to see if that suits us first,  we might have something on that weekend :P
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on September 25, 2014, 11:51:48 AM

Don't forget to check if Jamie has a holiday booked!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: orangeman on September 28, 2014, 10:10:23 AM
This might be a case of a story growing legs but this is funny if true.

Allegedly this happened at the Cross Dromintee "match" :

A fella took a call who was marking Aaron Kernan. I could hear his phone ringing and he answered it.

The phone conversation was "yes is that two pallets? I should be able to get that to you tomorrow. I'm just at a match here".

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 28, 2014, 06:20:20 PM
Well Oisin recounted that story on RTÉ, so you can play it back on the website if you wish.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on November 16, 2014, 08:39:49 PM
So the senior, intermediate and junior teams are all out of Ulster. Is that the quickest ever?

Are we really that poor?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 17, 2014, 11:36:35 AM
Quote from: Orior on November 16, 2014, 08:39:49 PM
So the senior, intermediate and junior teams are all out of Ulster. Is that the quickest ever?

Are we really that poor?

Omagh beat us because a lot of things went in their favour on the day.  9 games out of 10 we would have beaten them and be sitting in an Ulster final.  Generally we do not do overly well in the junior and intermediate,  I think we only have had 4 teams in the intermediate finals since both competitions started and no winners and only 2 in the junior final with 1 winner,  An Port Mor.  Tyrone and Monaghan have dominated both tournaments with Derry doing well also. Fermanagh have the same amount of titles at both levels as Armagh!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Goals_Will_Come on August 02, 2015, 02:38:17 PM
Armagh football is dead at this stage.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on August 14, 2015, 11:58:12 PM
This Armagh thread used to be really good craic but has deteriorated something shocking...time to get her going again...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on August 15, 2015, 12:39:21 PM
What happened Pearse Og? Destroyed by Maghery last night, home game and everything.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ulick on August 15, 2015, 04:27:49 PM
GAA star Ronan Clarke is seriously injured in club match

Former Armagh GAA star Ronan Clarke is in intensive care after being injured in a club match on Friday night.

The 32-year-old is understood to have sustained a head injury after colliding with a goalpost while playing for Pearse Og against Maghery.

Clarke is being treated at Craigavon Hospital and on Saturday his condition was reported to be serious but stable.

The forward was a member of the Armagh side which won the All-Ireland Football Championship in 2002.

He was honoured in the GAA's end-of-season All-Star awards on two occasions.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/gaelic-games/33947769
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on August 15, 2015, 04:57:40 PM
Quote from: Ulick on August 15, 2015, 04:27:49 PM
GAA star Ronan Clarke is seriously injured in club match

Former Armagh GAA star Ronan Clarke is in intensive care after being injured in a club match on Friday night.

The 32-year-old is understood to have sustained a head injury after colliding with a goalpost while playing for Pearse Og against Maghery.

Clarke is being treated at Craigavon Hospital and on Saturday his condition was reported to be serious but stable.

The forward was a member of the Armagh side which won the All-Ireland Football Championship in 2002.

He was honoured in the GAA's end-of-season All-Star awards on two occasions.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/gaelic-games/33947769
Just heard this, I hope he recovers fully and quickly.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ulick on August 15, 2015, 10:15:38 PM
Gaelic Life and the Og's Facebook saying he has made "significant improvement" tonight in Craigavon hospital. Sounds positive thank God.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Soup an Samajiz on August 18, 2015, 12:11:16 PM
saw the incident, took a bad blow, surprised he stayed on the field though, was at least another 5-10minutes played I think, looked unsteady on his feet when he was first helped up again, the match was long over as a contest, couldn't understand him staying on the field.

Pearse Ogs were surprisingly (to me anyway) very poor, Maghery team far superior all over the field
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: laceer on August 18, 2015, 12:20:51 PM
Maghery seem to have been knocking on the door in Armagh for a few years now - put up or shut up time at this stage you'd imagine. Would they have many coming through from youth teams?

Wonder what was the story with Barney Gormley getting the road so early in the year? Have they someone in to replace him?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on August 18, 2015, 12:54:06 PM
Quote from: laceer on August 18, 2015, 12:20:51 PM
Maghery seem to have been knocking on the door in Armagh for a few years now - put up or shut up time at this stage you'd imagine. Would they have many coming through from youth teams?

Wonder what was the story with Barney Gormley getting the road so early in the year? Have they someone in to replace him?
Couldnt make my mind up whether Ogs were really that piss poor or were Maghery just really good. I'd have them and Cullyhanna/Harps as the three teams to put it to Cross. Whether any of them actually have the balls to go on and do it remains to be seen. As for Maghery they wouldn't be overly strong at underage usually division 2/3 at minor anyway. Just have a really strong core at senior level and are able to add to it every few years or so with the odd gem. Think gormley got chased, fell out with too many players I'm told. Few clubmen over them now by looks of things.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2015, 01:51:02 PM
Quote from: general_lee on August 18, 2015, 12:54:06 PM
Quote from: laceer on August 18, 2015, 12:20:51 PM
Maghery seem to have been knocking on the door in Armagh for a few years now - put up or shut up time at this stage you'd imagine. Would they have many coming through from youth teams?

Wonder what was the story with Barney Gormley getting the road so early in the year? Have they someone in to replace him?
Couldnt make my mind up whether Ogs were really that piss poor or were Maghery just really good. I'd have them and Cullyhanna/Harps as the three teams to put it to Cross. Whether any of them actually have the balls to go on and do it remains to be seen. As for Maghery they wouldn't be overly strong at underage usually division 2/3 at minor anyway. Just have a really strong core at senior level and are able to add to it every few years or so with the odd gem. Think gormley got chased, fell out with too many players I'm told. Few clubmen over them now by looks of things.

The funny thing is that Maghery always have had strong teams for the last 25 odd years but could never pull it together in the championship.  In fact,  I would say that the Maghery teams I played against were much better than the current incumbents.  I played against the likes of Martin and Eamon Toye,  the Robinsons, the elder Forkers, Ciaran Raff,  they were hardy, hardy boys and not the chest out kinda lads that you see too often these days.  You always knew you were in a game coming back down the road.  The Toyes could run and run and no matter how hard you hit them they got up stronger and hit back!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Soup an Samajiz on August 18, 2015, 02:21:13 PM
Conleith Gilligan on the line for them on Friday night, don't know how much of an input he has though. I thought Maghery were good, few very nice scores and composure on the ball. As for youth on the team the youngest Lavery really stood out at full forward and not only because he scored both majors, not long out of minor football I think. Full back had a very good game on Ronan Clarke I thought.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on August 18, 2015, 03:08:16 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 18, 2015, 01:51:02 PM
Quote from: general_lee on August 18, 2015, 12:54:06 PM
Quote from: laceer on August 18, 2015, 12:20:51 PM
Maghery seem to have been knocking on the door in Armagh for a few years now - put up or shut up time at this stage you'd imagine. Would they have many coming through from youth teams?

Wonder what was the story with Barney Gormley getting the road so early in the year? Have they someone in to replace him?
Couldnt make my mind up whether Ogs were really that piss poor or were Maghery just really good. I'd have them and Cullyhanna/Harps as the three teams to put it to Cross. Whether any of them actually have the balls to go on and do it remains to be seen. As for Maghery they wouldn't be overly strong at underage usually division 2/3 at minor anyway. Just have a really strong core at senior level and are able to add to it every few years or so with the odd gem. Think gormley got chased, fell out with too many players I'm told. Few clubmen over them now by looks of things.

The funny thing is that Maghery always have had strong teams for the last 25 odd years but could never pull it together in the championship.  In fact,  I would say that the Maghery teams I played against were much better than the current incumbents.  I played against the likes of Martin and Eamon Toye,  the Robinsons, the elder Forkers, Ciaran Raff,  they were hardy, hardy boys and not the chest out kinda lads that you see too often these days.  You always knew you were in a game coming back down the road.  The Toyes could run and run and no matter how hard you hit them they got up stronger and hit back!!
yes nothing ever came easy with Maghery.. A shower of bastards and I mean that as a compliment. They remind me of how the like of cross and Cullyhanna (apart from last night) tend to play, plenty of cohesion and options for the man on the ball.
Quote from: Soup an Samajiz on August 18, 2015, 02:21:13 PM
Conleith Gilligan on the line for them on Friday night, don't know how much of an input he has though. I thought Maghery were good, few very nice scores and composure on the ball. As for youth on the team the youngest Lavery really stood out at full forward and not only because he scored both majors, not long out of minor football I think. Full back had a very good game on Ronan Clarke I thought.
Always a nice luxury to have someone like stefan forker to spring from the bench. Half back cusack played great I thought. Heard Deets took a few sessions didn't realise he was part of the set up. No shortage of dollars up the loughshore anyway.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Red eye on August 18, 2015, 09:53:22 PM
Interesting to see Giligan on the line - believe he lined out for Ballinderry this evening too in Derry championship. Plenty of experience and his input along the line would be an asset.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: RealSpiritof98 on August 22, 2015, 03:57:42 PM
I heard Stefan Forker was the man in Charge
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on August 23, 2015, 08:15:17 PM
Senior Qualifier & Quarter Final Draw
St Pats v Granemore winners v Maghery
Killeavy v Wolfe Tone winners v Harps
Pearse Og v Dromintee winners v Crossmaglen
Ballymacnab v Sarsfields winners v Annaghmore

Junior Qualifier & Quarter Final Draw
Dromintee II v Killeavy II winners v Ballyhegan
St Pats II v Lissumonnn winners v Crossmaglen II
O'Hanlons v Belleek winners v Tullysaran
Pearse Ogs II v Clonmore winners v Derrynoose
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 23, 2015, 08:28:45 PM
You'd have to fancy the 4 'winners' in the 1/4 finals to make the semis. Great opportunity for Annaghmore to push on. The Nab or Sarsfields won't scare them. On the weekends performances Harps look a a very strong bet to end our run. They have the players to do it and we're not pulling any trees up this year. With Jamie not available we have lost a lot of threat in front of the goals and this could be the year to catch us. We're probably in a run where we have too many lads with miles in the legs so a county is a big ask.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Soup an Samajiz on August 24, 2015, 11:24:53 AM
Quote from: RealSpiritof98 on August 22, 2015, 03:57:42 PM
I heard Stefan Forker was the man in Charge

:o couldn't see it, likely played the role of trainer while they were looking for manager just
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on August 24, 2015, 12:06:31 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 23, 2015, 08:28:45 PM
You'd have to fancy the 4 'winners' in the 1/4 finals to make the semis. Great opportunity for Annaghmore to push on. The Nab or Sarsfields won't scare them. On the weekends performances Harps look a a very strong bet to end our run. They have the players to do it and we're not pulling any trees up this year. With Jamie not available we have lost a lot of threat in front of the goals and this could be the year to catch us. We're probably in a run where we have too many lads with miles in the legs so a county is a big ask.
Pull the other one. You must think we came up the bann in a bubble. JC no great loss to you boys, not at Armagh level anyway, Cross will cope the best without him, from what I seen of him this year he didn't really seem to be on top form anyway, maybe not enjoying his football as much?

You say you haven't pulled any trees up but you've handed out the biggest championship beating this year so far, 17pts over Granemore to add to this weeks 12 pt win over Killeavy. Usual suspects of Cullyhanna, Harps and Maghery to be in the mix but all to ultimately fall short.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 24, 2015, 12:13:12 PM
All pales into insignificance with the tragic death of the young Hughes lad from Dromintee.

http://armaghi.com/first-victim-of-a1-crash-which-claimed-three-young-lives-is-named/

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on August 24, 2015, 12:28:44 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 24, 2015, 12:13:12 PM
All pales into insignificance with the tragic death of the young Hughes lad from Dromintee.

http://armaghi.com/first-victim-of-a1-crash-which-claimed-three-young-lives-is-named/
RIP, hadn't realised names had been released.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on August 24, 2015, 12:34:01 PM
Quote from: general_lee on August 24, 2015, 12:28:44 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 24, 2015, 12:13:12 PM
All pales into insignificance with the tragic death of the young Hughes lad from Dromintee.

http://armaghi.com/first-victim-of-a1-crash-which-claimed-three-young-lives-is-named/
RIP, hadn't realised names had been released.

Just the one from what I can gather.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on August 30, 2015, 11:17:45 PM
Probably not the best thread to raise it but willie Frazer seemed to be very upset over a recent funeral and I was wondering was it one of the victims of this tragedy?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 01, 2015, 11:26:29 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 23, 2015, 08:28:45 PM
You'd have to fancy the 4 'winners' in the 1/4 finals to make the semis. Great opportunity for Annaghmore to push on. The Nab or Sarsfields won't scare them. On the weekends performances Harps look a a very strong bet to end our run. They have the players to do it and we're not pulling any trees up this year. With Jamie not available we have lost a lot of threat in front of the goals and this could be the year to catch us. We're probably in a run where we have too many lads with miles in the legs so a county is a big ask.

where have I heard this before? It's like a broken record every year. Harps & Maghery are the only two teams capable (belief) of putting it up to Cross and even thats debatable. I agree that Cross are a bit weaker that they've been in a while but the problem is so are the rest of the teams in Armagh.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 02, 2015, 10:51:09 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 01, 2015, 11:26:29 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on August 23, 2015, 08:28:45 PM
You'd have to fancy the 4 'winners' in the 1/4 finals to make the semis. Great opportunity for Annaghmore to push on. The Nab or Sarsfields won't scare them. On the weekends performances Harps look a a very strong bet to end our run. They have the players to do it and we're not pulling any trees up this year. With Jamie not available we have lost a lot of threat in front of the goals and this could be the year to catch us. We're probably in a run where we have too many lads with miles in the legs so a county is a big ask.

where have I heard this before? It's like a broken record every year. Harps & Maghery are the only two teams capable (belief) of putting it up to Cross and even thats debatable. I agree that Cross are a bit weaker that they've been in a while but the problem is so are the rest of the teams in Armagh.

I'm bound to be right sometime!! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 03, 2015, 11:39:40 AM
True, percentages say eventually Cross will be beaten and you can always say..."I told you so".

Clans v Clann Eireann moved to Sat night due to a bereavement at the Clans. Match now at Wolf Tones for 5:00 throw in.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Soup an Samajiz on September 18, 2015, 11:56:40 AM
Maghery destroying a poor team again, this time in Granemore, now face the big test in the Rangers. I would actually fancy Maghery to get the better of them but does anyone in Armagh actually give them a chance?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 18, 2015, 12:32:49 PM
Quote from: Soup an Samajiz on September 18, 2015, 11:56:40 AM
Maghery destroying a poor team again, this time in Granemore, now face the big test in the Rangers. I would actually fancy Maghery to get the better of them but does anyone in Armagh actually give them a chance?

I do Soup...no chance. :P

Ach in fairness if any team in Armagh can beat Cross it will be Harps or Maghery, any other team are beat before the match starts. I think they'll put it up to them for a while and then Cross will grind out a 3-4 pt win...but BC1 will tell you they're there for the taking ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 18, 2015, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: Soup an Samajiz on September 18, 2015, 11:56:40 AM
Maghery destroying a poor team again, this time in Granemore, now face the big test in the Rangers. I would actually fancy Maghery to get the better of them but does anyone in Armagh actually give them a chance?
Ordinarily you would because on paper Maghery are a good side. But like what always happens when teams are fancied to beat cross they either shit themselves (nab, harps) or they get close enough and bring them to a replay only to get properly bate (Cullyhanna, Dromintee, etc). If Maghery are to have any chance they'll have to stop cross dictating the pace of the game which is in itself a massive ask. Cross play with great tempo and the last time an Armagh team dictated v cross was 2009. If Maghery are able to stop cross getting a good start early on and themselves getting a few early scores then they've every chance. If they freeze at the beginning like most teams do then they're fooked, even if cross are minus the piano player
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 18, 2015, 11:00:21 PM
Bit of boxing in the intermediate semi tonight after a drab affair between Grange and Whitecross. County board investigating further and censoring all discussion on the armagh forum! Few Grange men need to have a look at themselves! Whitecross goading them after them losing the rag! Hard to look past Clann Éireann to win the final after demolishing Madden..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on September 19, 2015, 01:51:36 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 18, 2015, 11:00:21 PM
Bit of boxing in the intermediate semi tonight after a drab affair between Grange and Whitecross. County board investigating further and censoring all discussion on the armagh forum! Few Grange men need to have a look at themselves! Whitecross goading them after them losing the rag! Hard to look past Clann Éireann to win the final after demolishing Madden..

Only thing worse than a sore loser is an ungracious winner.

Clann Eireann looked very good. Some useful players. If they play to form the cup should be heading back to Lurgan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 19, 2015, 01:15:32 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on September 19, 2015, 01:51:36 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 18, 2015, 11:00:21 PM
Bit of boxing in the intermediate semi tonight after a drab affair between Grange and Whitecross. County board investigating further and censoring all discussion on the armagh forum! Few Grange men need to have a look at themselves! Whitecross goading them after them losing the rag! Hard to look past Clann Éireann to win the final after demolishing Madden..

Only thing worse than a sore loser is an ungracious winner.

Clann Eireann looked very good. Some useful players. If they play to form the cup should be heading back to Lurgan.
Well we had both on show last night... not even sure it was a penalty but that was the catalyst for all the fighting that followed. Ethan Rafferty is an utter tool and I'm sure regrets his actions. Expect better from a county player. Never seen a team collectively fall for the bait so easily as the grange did last night. Was the only entertainment in that game anyway.

In the second game Madden were terrible so it's hard to judge who will win the final, Whitecross showed plenty of character and will be very hungry to return to Division 1, I'd have them as slight favourites ahead of Clann Eireann.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on September 19, 2015, 02:43:44 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 19, 2015, 01:15:32 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on September 19, 2015, 01:51:36 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 18, 2015, 11:00:21 PM
Bit of boxing in the intermediate semi tonight after a drab affair between Grange and Whitecross. County board investigating further and censoring all discussion on the armagh forum! Few Grange men need to have a look at themselves! Whitecross goading them after them losing the rag! Hard to look past Clann Éireann to win the final after demolishing Madden..

Only thing worse than a sore loser is an ungracious winner.

Clann Eireann looked very good. Some useful players. If they play to form the cup should be heading back to Lurgan.
Well we had both on show last night... not even sure it was a penalty but that was the catalyst for all the fighting that followed. Ethan Rafferty is an utter tool and I'm sure regrets his actions. Expect better from a county player. Never seen a team collectively fall for the bait so easily as the grange did last night. Was the only entertainment in that game anyway.

In the second game Madden were terrible so it's hard to judge who will win the final, Whitecross showed plenty of character and will be very hungry to return to Division 1, I'd have them as slight favourites ahead of Clann Eireann.

I saw Charlie Vernon react to similar baiting when he was playing for Armagh under 21s a number of years ago. A more placid player you  are unlikely to see. Rafferty will learn. At least it shows he cares.
The red card was correct though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SimonSays on September 19, 2015, 07:11:08 PM
I dont understand this "i expect better from a county player" line. county football is a dirty as it comes there is flare ups and sly digs threw all over the place.....the lad reacted badly but he was only after losing a semi-final and was being goaded when there was no need....he got his red card which was deserved but i have watched club football in armagh for a long time and there is no club who are whiter than white, to call someone  a tool is a bit much from a supporter. god knows what was said to him. you boys would be the same crowd who cried aout about the tyrone team sledging and then when it happens in your own county, pass no remarks. he will regret his actions im sure of that,,,but some of the comments on armagh official board are over the top. one lad even wrote he should be no where near the armagh team and they will win nothing with him there...yet the irish news lists him as the only man showed anything for armagh this year...the lad is 21 and the witch hunt is on. im a moy man and i tell you what i would love to have him play for us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 21, 2015, 10:27:47 AM
Lol not a Tyronie pontificating  ;D

Look he's a county player and he's a couple of years under his belt so should know better at this stage, especially after how the previous hour had went and given it was against a team that is not adverse at all to practicing the dark arts. You don't see Saint Seán lashing out after all the abuse he always gets? Maybe you moy lads can give Ethan a few swimming lessons and he can channel his aggression into diving winning frees.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 22, 2015, 03:59:06 PM
I'm looking forward to Sat nite and see how Maghery stand up To Cross, will they crumble or will they show some mettle
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 22, 2015, 04:42:17 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 22, 2015, 03:59:06 PM
I'm looking forward to Sat nite and see how Maghery stand up To Cross, will they crumble or will they show some mettle

Maghery will win,  it's inevitable.  We have injuries and players away and just not at the level yet.  I just hope that the minors come through in the Final so there is something to cheer for this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 22, 2015, 05:33:19 PM
County standard half back line, a near county standard midfield and a county standard half forward line. Aye BCB yous will do well to give Maghery a game  :P

I'm hoping for a close one but won't be surprised if cross win by 5/6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Soup an Samajiz on September 25, 2015, 11:35:20 AM
Maghery 6-1 in Paddy Power.. Buyin money  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 28, 2015, 10:18:53 AM
Cross Harps final then. No real surprise, Maghery despite all their posturing lack the killer instinct up front to put cross away. Harps dispatched of a nab team that although solid enough haven't really kicked on and have probably peaked a couple of years ago.

From 8-15 Harps are probably more than a match for cross but defensively I think they are quite vulnerable
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on September 28, 2015, 02:16:44 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 22, 2015, 04:42:17 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 22, 2015, 03:59:06 PM
I'm looking forward to Sat nite and see how Maghery stand up To Cross, will they crumble or will they show some mettle

Maghery will win,  it's inevitable.  We have injuries and players away and just not at the level yet.  I just hope that the minors come through in the Final so there is something to cheer for this year.

:)...you're some boy!!! where have i seen this before...I suppose it'll be Harps are certs now ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 07, 2015, 11:13:46 AM
Will this final go the same way as the rest...Cross hit early build up 4-5 pt lead and then tit for tat afterwards and grind out 3-4 pt win. What u reckon BC1 or of course Harps will be certs.

My honest view is Harps will never have a better chance...just have they the goolies for it. Will Aaron Kernan be fit to play?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 07, 2015, 08:28:24 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 07, 2015, 11:13:46 AM
Will this final go the same way as the rest...Cross hit early build up 4-5 pt lead and then tit for tat afterwards and grind out 3-4 pt win. What u reckon BC1 or of course Harps will be certs.

My honest view is Harps will never have a better chance...just have they the goolies for it. Will Aaron Kernan be fit to play?

Very much 50/50. With AK definitely out we lose an awful lot and along with no Jamie we will struggle. It really could be Harps year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 08, 2015, 03:50:47 PM
The Irish News today (John Mac) reckons AK will be fit to play? TBH Aaron's a quality player but i still think Cross will have 2-3 pts to spare. I still think Harps will not have a better chance but i don't think they'll take. For the sake of Armagh football (for interest alone) it would be good for a few other teams to sample a Championship
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 08, 2015, 05:05:15 PM
Lol @ the crossmaglen spin doctor. I've rarely seen Crossmaglen struggle no matter who or how many they've missing. That's why they are the team they are. Harps have a good midfield and good forwards but it's their defence that I feel they are vulnerable. Even without the piano player cross have a class forward line. Cross by 6
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on October 10, 2015, 12:34:48 PM
Does anyone know if county final is available on live streaming?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 10, 2015, 12:59:08 PM
Quote from: maddog on October 10, 2015, 12:34:48 PM
Does anyone know if county final is available on live streaming?

It's on ArmaghTV so you'll be able to get it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: maddog on October 10, 2015, 01:18:49 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 10, 2015, 12:59:08 PM
Quote from: maddog on October 10, 2015, 12:34:48 PM
Does anyone know if county final is available on live streaming?

It's on ArmaghTV so you'll be able to get it

Cheers BC, i hope the club and the shambles are still busy come Wednesday. Odds are against that but we live in hope. Up the harps.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on October 10, 2015, 05:17:50 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 22, 2015, 04:42:17 PM
Quote from: illdecide on September 22, 2015, 03:59:06 PM
I'm looking forward to Sat nite and see how Maghery stand up To Cross, will they crumble or will they show some mettle

Maghery will win,  it's inevitable.  We have injuries and players away and just not at the level yet.  I just hope that the minors come through in the Final so there is something to cheer for this year.


You have been drinking the Tralee kool aid!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: stew on October 10, 2015, 05:22:10 PM
Cross by 14 points!  :-[
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gaffer on October 10, 2015, 08:18:17 PM
Would you Harps men please win that game the marra!!!

Getting fed up every year of Cross this and Cross that

Almost as boring as  Kilkenny winning the Hurling!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gaffer on October 11, 2015, 09:12:06 PM
It's Cross this and Cross that for another while !
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 12, 2015, 12:34:12 AM
Are people in Armagh cross about Cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 12, 2015, 09:38:44 AM
Told u they're finished...BC1 called it too. Prob never hear from that Cross team again ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2015, 10:09:32 AM
Quote from: illdecide on October 12, 2015, 09:38:44 AM
Told u they're finished...BC1 called it too. Prob never hear from that Cross team again ::)

I genuinely didn't see that one coming. I honestly believed that Harps would have learned from last year and that maybe this year their big men would step up and answer the questions that have been asked of them before. There were very few Harps men who can have any credit apart from McElroy, McConville and Mini McShane. I didn't see many weaknesses in us yesterday and I have to say that this years championship was no good to us. We beat 1 team by 17, 1 by 12, 1 by 5, 1 by 3 and the final by 18! I didn't see the Maghery game but I saw the Pearse Ogs game and they were not really 5 points behind us as we were very sluggish and really should have won by 10+ points that day. In the last 5 years we have won the finals by 25 in 2011, 7 in 2012, 9 in 2013, 17 in 2014 and 18 in 2015. It is getting ridiculous at this stage. I remember I was laughed at about 10 years or more ago on the old board when I said we would win the majority of the next 10-15 years. Even I couldn't have imagined it to be so dominant. The scary thing is there were 8 minors on the squad yesterday winning their first medal. There will be at least 2-3 from next years minors who will step up and then there is the this years u14 team coming up who have a great group of young lads.  I don't see where the challenge will come from. Clann Eireann are up and coming but 3-4 years playing and losing in the senior championship will cause a lot of disillusion in them.

Ulster is a big challenge now and I will go to next weeks Antrim final a very interested observer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 12, 2015, 10:13:53 AM
Most teams are just scared of yous with harps number 1 at the queue. I'm sure Cullyhanna are disgusted that they got beat by harps this year. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2015, 10:17:30 AM
Quote from: general_lee on October 12, 2015, 10:13:53 AM
Most teams are just scared of yous with harps number 1 at the queue. I'm sure Cullyhanna are disgusted that they got beat by harps this year.

Maybe but they've had several chances to beat us and haven't stepped up either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 12, 2015, 10:35:53 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2015, 10:17:30 AM
Quote from: general_lee on October 12, 2015, 10:13:53 AM
Most teams are just scared of yous with harps number 1 at the queue. I'm sure Cullyhanna are disgusted that they got beat by harps this year.

Maybe but they've had several chances to beat us and haven't stepped up either.
True. But in the last five years only the nab have taken a bigger hiding in the final. No disrespect to the harps but they had a chance to correct things yesterday and they failed. Almost embarrassed for them
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 12, 2015, 12:11:50 PM
You can only give credit to Cross but Armagh football is so bad, for a team to win 19 out of 20 championships is unreal. Can Cross realistically win 9 from the next 10?(absolutely) How bad would that be for the rest of the clubs.

BC1  i know Cross & Clann Eireann were very evenly matched in the minor final...what's the talent like of the young minors on the squad yesterday?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2015, 01:03:13 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 12, 2015, 12:11:50 PM
You can only give credit to Cross but Armagh football is so bad, for a team to win 19 out of 20 championships is unreal. Can Cross realistically win 9 from the next 10?(absolutely) How bad would that be for the rest of the clubs.

BC1  i know Cross & Clann Eireann were very evenly matched in the minor final...what's the talent like of the young minors on the squad yesterday?

There would be 3-4 of the minors on the squad that would start on most other senior teams in the county.  The 2 lads who came on yesterday and Stephen Morris definitely.  3 lads who are all good players and all in excess of 6 ft and growing into a really good players. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 13, 2015, 10:40:15 AM
What was the title in the Gaelic Life this week..."we haven't went away you know"...something like that...lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 03, 2015, 11:32:25 AM
Looking forward to Cross v Kilcoo should be a cracker. I think Cross will beat them by 2pts
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: liamrice1 on November 10, 2015, 03:14:33 PM
A chairde,

At 4pm Saturday 21st November 2015 (in Pairc Esler, Newry) Cumann Pheadair Naofa GAC are hosting a unique hurling event in which a St Peter's/Ulster Select will play a Kilkenny legends team in a one off hurling 'Legends' match. The Kilkenny panel includes legendary net minder James McGarry, a full back line of John Tennyson, Michael Kavanagh and Noel Hickey, a half back line that would grace many current county teams of Tommy Walsh, Brian Hogan and JJ Delaney. Derek Lyng will marshal the midfield whilst up front they boast players of the quality of Aidan Fogarty, Martin Comerford, Eddie Brennan, DJ Carey, Charlie Carter and Henry Shefflin.



The Ulster team is made up of county players spread from throughout Ulster including; Conor McKinley, Ciaran Clarke, Odran McFadden and Chris O'Connell of Antrim. Sean McCullagh, Ruairi Convery, Kevin and Liam Hinphey of Derry. Fintan Conway, Paul Sheehan, Danny Toner, Ciaran Coulter and Stephen Keith of Down as well as county players from Armagh, Fermanagh and Donegal (Sean McVeigh of St Eunan's and Danny Cullen of Setanta).



Tickets are priced at £10 for adults and £5 for kids and can be purchased from The Quays Newry, Down GAA County Office Castlewellan, St Peter's Clubrooms Warrenpoint (Sunday 8pm-10pm), Centra in Cloughey and Centra in Portaferry. There are also a number of group tickets available in House of Sport Belfast by contacting Damien McConville damienmcconville@sportni.net alternatively the Down ticket van will be present at the match for ticket sales. It is advisable to purchase group tickets in advance to avoid unnecessary delays on the day of the match.


Visit www.warrenpointgaa.com or follow us on twitter or facebook for updates on the game.



Is mise le meas
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on November 13, 2015, 09:23:30 AM
Cross only 4/6 in the betting...would have thought both teams would have been a bit closer in the betting. Cross by 2pts for me as i think Cross would have set their sights on Kilcoo from a long way back and as much as they wouldn't admit it REVENGE will be top of their list and is a great motivator...

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on November 16, 2015, 10:05:17 PM
Personally couldn't give a rats arse about ladies football
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 14, 2015, 02:10:18 PM
All change on the club scene with introduction of 6 Divisions comprising 8 teams on a home and away basis - top two senior, middle two intermediate, bottom two junior. Should make for a more competitive environment with less dead ringer matches. Club football needs a shot in the arm so maybe this will provide it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Aristocrat on January 07, 2016, 01:54:28 PM
Why is  Kevin Dyas going to Kilmacud crokes?

work?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 07, 2016, 01:58:58 PM
Quote from: The Aristocrat on January 07, 2016, 01:54:28 PM
Why is  Kevin Dyas going to Kilmacud crokes?

work?

Yeah,  he lives down there.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: fan01 on January 07, 2016, 07:15:03 PM
No he's living in Dublin well over a year now
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Pocs pints and the gaa on September 23, 2016, 06:59:52 PM
Good luck to Aghagallon tomorrow, here's hoping they bring a title back to the county
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: KIDDO 4 on September 26, 2016, 09:08:28 PM
Half time intermediate championship semi final Whitecross 1.7, Clann Na NGael 0.5
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BennyCake on October 02, 2016, 10:33:08 PM
Cross beat by Cullyhanna.

We'll have a new winner this year. Maghery or Cullyhanna.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 02, 2016, 11:46:49 PM
Let's hope that never again one club is allowed to dominate Armagh football for such a long period.It was shameful that other clubs stood back and let this happen in the first place.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on October 03, 2016, 12:32:18 AM

Did you do much about it yourself?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: theticklemister on October 03, 2016, 07:21:26 AM
Lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 03, 2016, 07:28:07 AM
I as an individual was powerless.But would Celtic allow Rangers to dominate the SPL for twenty years,or vice Versa? Would Dublin allow Kerry to win 19 out of the last twenty All Ireland titles or vice Versa?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 03, 2016, 08:17:19 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 03, 2016, 07:28:07 AM
I as an individual was powerless.But would Celtic allow Rangers to dominate the SPL for twenty years,or vice Versa? Would Dublin allow Kerry to win 19 out of the last twenty All Ireland titles or vice Versa?

Maybe not 20 years but 9 in a row is some achievement in professional soccer.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winghalfback on October 03, 2016, 09:41:05 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 03, 2016, 07:28:07 AM
I as an individual was powerless.But would Celtic allow Rangers to dominate the SPL for twenty years,or vice Versa? Would Dublin allow Kerry to win 19 out of the last twenty All Ireland titles or vice Versa?

You probably would need to be a member of a club first tony instead of just being a troll
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 03, 2016, 01:56:39 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 02, 2016, 11:46:49 PM
Let's hope that never again one club is allowed to dominate Armagh football for such a long period.It was shameful that other clubs stood back and let this happen in the first place.
It's not like cross didn't go on and win a bagful of Ulster and all Ireland's... Cross is an institution of Gaelic football and will always be there or thereabouts. Clubs over the years have been good enough but always lacked the belief, luck, balls whatever to overcome them. Cullyhanna have had it in them to beat cross and held onto their belief last night. It's a minor shock to those outside the county but most football people in Armagh knew it was coming. Be some craic now when Maghery win the final lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BennyCake on October 03, 2016, 11:20:38 PM
I sense this is only a blip for Cross.

Maghery and St Patrick's need to make the most of this chance to win a first title and experience Ulster club football while they can.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: east down gael on October 03, 2016, 11:27:12 PM
I thought the same thing when Kilcoo first turned over mayobridge.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 04, 2016, 09:34:55 AM
What age are the Kernans? Will there be any retirees?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: clarshack on October 04, 2016, 10:23:33 AM
has the armagh u-21 championship been played yet this year? if yes, who won it?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winghalfback on October 04, 2016, 02:16:31 PM
Quote from: clarshack on October 04, 2016, 10:23:33 AM
has the armagh u-21 championship been played yet this year? if yes, who won it?

Cullyhanna won the last few if I'm not mistaken and something says cross were in the final of it this year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 04, 2016, 02:36:33 PM
It starts in a few weeks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Glensman on October 23, 2016, 01:31:29 PM
Favour of anyone online - was misled earlier that I could go onto Armagh TV through the website and watch the Club Hurling and Camogie finals live ? Is this not the case?

Think I mistakenly paid a fiver for what appears to be last week's Armagh club finals and I am even failing miserably to watch them!! Any chance of a refund or directing the payment to apply if and when those finals are online?

Thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: JUst retired on October 23, 2016, 07:11:06 PM
Go on the Armagh TV web site and make your case there,,I'm not sure if the games were meant to be live,as the Ulster Council would have to give permission  to go live.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 23, 2016, 09:17:31 PM
Quote from: Glensman on October 23, 2016, 01:31:29 PM
Favour of anyone online - was misled earlier that I could go onto Armagh TV through the website and watch the Club Hurling and Camogie finals live ? Is this not the case?

Think I mistakenly paid a fiver for what appears to be last week's Armagh club finals and I am even failing miserably to watch them!! Any chance of a refund or directing the payment to apply if and when those finals are online?

Thanks

There is an email address in your confirmation email, give them a shout and they can sort you.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: holylandsniper on October 24, 2016, 10:22:17 AM
Any updates on this weekends U21 games?
Who are favourites this year, Cross?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: punt kick on August 26, 2017, 10:59:55 AM
Maghery looking good again. Cross would have been big favourites last night.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PMG1 on September 11, 2017, 08:17:22 PM
I am involved with running the Paul McGirr Ulster U16 tournament, does anyone know who won the Armagh U16 championship this year if it is over?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on September 11, 2017, 09:34:19 PM
Quote from: PMG1 on September 11, 2017, 08:17:22 PM
I am involved with running the Paul McGirr Ulster U16 tournament, does anyone know who won the Armagh U16 championship this year if it is over?

I am near certain Crossmaglen won it last week.

Just checked there. August 30th under 16 final
Crossmaglen 1.19 Carrickcruppen 1.7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 11, 2017, 10:02:57 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on September 11, 2017, 09:34:19 PM
I am near certain Crossmaglen won it last week.

Always a reasonable guess.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: PMG1 on September 11, 2017, 10:58:35 PM
Thanks lads
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TheGreatest on September 15, 2017, 03:37:41 PM
Any truth in the rumours of Jamie Clarke to Kilmacud Crokes ?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BennyCake on September 19, 2017, 04:09:18 PM
Quote from: TheGreatest on September 15, 2017, 03:37:41 PM
Any truth in the rumours of Jamie Clarke to Kilmacud Crokes ?

Were they the only club with a latte machine? ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on September 19, 2017, 04:36:11 PM
One county, one club, one still playing this amateur sport?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: punt kick on September 30, 2017, 08:12:20 PM
Cross supporters show again what scumbags they are.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BennyCake on September 30, 2017, 08:19:50 PM
Quote from: punt kick on September 30, 2017, 08:12:20 PM
Cross supporters show again what scumbags they are.

What happened?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on September 30, 2017, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 30, 2017, 08:19:50 PM
Quote from: punt kick on September 30, 2017, 08:12:20 PM
Cross supporters show again what scumbags they are.

What happened?

First of all, there was an excellent game of football. Maghery deservedly won the game by 2-13 to 0-16. I was fascinated to see what might be the fallout from the first game between these two - would it instil in Maghery the confidence to beat Cross when it really mattered. We got our answer tonight. Maghery played with the confidence of a team who knew they had the beating of Rangers, and when Rangers threatened a great comeback (narrowing the gap from six points to one point) they never panicked and eased to victory.

Unfortunately the game was marred at the end when one Cross player in particular experienced what I can only describe as a meltdown of discipline and started a major row right by the fence on the Drumarg side of the ground, which prompted incursions from the stand.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: StGallsGAA on October 01, 2017, 02:15:16 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on September 30, 2017, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on September 30, 2017, 08:19:50 PM
Quote from: punt kick on September 30, 2017, 08:12:20 PM
Cross supporters show again what scumbags they are.

What happened?

First of all, there was an excellent game of football. Maghery deservedly won the game by 2-13 to 0-16. I was fascinated to see what might be the fallout from the first game between these two - would it instil in Maghery the confidence to beat Cross when it really mattered. We got our answer tonight. Maghery played with the confidence of a team who knew they had the beating of Rangers, and when Rangers threatened a great comeback (narrowing the gap from six points to one point) they never panicked and eased to victory.

Unfortunately the game was marred at the end when one Cross player in particular experienced what I can only describe as a meltdown of discipline and started a major row right by the fence on the Drumarg side of the ground, which prompted incursions from the stand.

Who was the Cross player who started it all then? the
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: on the hop on October 28, 2017, 06:23:23 PM
completely off the point, but I have a facebook page called gaa programme collectors. this year I am trying to collect the 70 odd county final programmes throughout the country. doing well so far but I am finding it hard to source a lot of them in ulster but especially the Armagh hurling or football ones. looking for any advice or help where they can be got. I can be contacted through the Facebook page. thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: T Fearon on October 29, 2017, 03:01:16 PM
Where to now for Armagh club football with Harps and Ballyhegan easily eliminated by average teams in the first round of the Ulster Senior and Junior Championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 29, 2017, 05:42:37 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 29, 2017, 03:01:16 PM
Where to now for Armagh club football with Harps and Ballyhegan easily eliminated by average teams in the first round of the Ulster Senior and Junior Championship?

You'll just have to bring back Cross'.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 29, 2017, 07:18:53 PM
What is wrong is staring people in the face but they refuse/cannot see what is wrong. Nothing to do with us or our success but a lot to do with the overall coaching strategy within the county.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: heganboy on October 30, 2017, 02:00:08 AM
Quote from: T Fearon on October 29, 2017, 03:01:16 PM
Where to now for Armagh club football with Harps and Ballyhegan easily eliminated by average teams in the first round of the Ulster Senior and Junior Championship?

great to see you obviously weren't at the athletic grounds today then Tony.

Maybe don't just read the score and then pontificate
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armamike on November 02, 2017, 02:47:17 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 29, 2017, 07:18:53 PM
What is wrong is staring people in the face but they refuse/cannot see what is wrong. Nothing to do with us or our success but a lot to do with the overall coaching strategy within the county.

There is a new county board strategy that talks broadly about the importance of links with schools and clubs (i think!) but the bottom line is how these things get implemented.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: youhavenofans on February 07, 2018, 04:04:56 PM
Hi folks, I am looking for a friendly for a Div 1 tyrone minor team. Could anyone recommend me any teams to play and possible contact details? thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: keeperlit on May 26, 2018, 10:55:50 PM
Took in u20 game last night. Good to get a win after the recent horror shows of the seniors and u17s.
Armagh pulled away from Fermanagh in the last 15 mins but to be truthful Fermanagh were very poor and this group of Armagh players should be beating them out the gate. Individually Armagh players were better than their direct opponents and at the end the result reflected this.

However, talented and all as they are I do believe that Tyrone will beat them comfortably (I hope I'm wrong) as the team seemed to be  sent out to play the same way as the seniors with players been allowed the option of hiding out around the middle,opponents waltzing through this zonally marshalled defence without a hand been laid on them and if a defender does get the ball there is no outlet ball. It would appear that all our development squads are playing this way as well. This is quite in unnerving.

There is a real risk that Armagh could waste another generation of talent here if the current approach is not, at the very least, reviewed but preferably binned and a new approach developed and implemented. There is a fundamental problem with regard coaching within our county and it needs to be addressed urgently to halt the apathy towards the county team that is, I feel, currently increasing at a alarming rate.

For the record, this is not a "McGeeney out" rant, as a lot of these problems have manifested themselves before kieran's time but he has probably been shown up to be out of his depth over the course of the last four years with Armagh. (Last year favourables draws in the qualifiers papered over the cracks of a bad year when promotion and a win over down were the only the two results that mattered)

There is definitely the talent in the county to be doing better than we are showing at the minute and I hope we can find our way to harness this talent and at least getting us to be challenging for an Ulster at the very least.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: keeperlit on August 14, 2018, 10:56:55 PM
Does anyone know what the story is with club championship ticket in Armagh this year? How much is it and where and when will you be able to get the it? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on August 15, 2018, 07:43:17 AM
Quote from: keeperlit on August 14, 2018, 10:56:55 PM
Does anyone know what the story is with club championship ticket in Armagh this year? How much is it and where and when will you be able to get the it? Thanks in advance.

The Championship Ticket costs £85 or €100. My understanding is that it is available now. It is available from the County offices in the Ceannarus Building at the Athletic Grounds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on August 15, 2018, 04:06:44 PM

We should revive this thread. Senior championship is looking competitive and wide open. Interesting at the very least even if it isn't of the highest quality
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on August 15, 2018, 10:00:57 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 15, 2018, 04:06:44 PM
We should revive this thread. Senior championship is looking competitive and wide open. Interesting at the very least even if it isn't of the highest quality

I'd be curious as to people's views on the new Championship format.

I personally think we have something close to perfection as regards league, championship and the connection between the two, albeit that it has taken us a long time to get here and a lot of trial and error in the process.

One of the criticisms I have heard is that the round robin group stage takes 24 matches to get rid of just 4 teams. However the Clann Eireann delegates at the County Convention explained that three going forward from each group was necessary to ensure there were no dead rubbers. I'm convinced by that argument, as I'm sure we would have the old 'w/o - dnf' combination in our Championship fixtures list which would relfect terribly on our Championship.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on August 15, 2018, 11:26:05 PM
I'd prefer straight knockout if I'm honest
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: keeperlit on August 16, 2018, 07:44:29 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on August 15, 2018, 04:06:44 PM

We should revive this thread. Senior championship is looking competitive and wide open. Interesting at the very least even if it isn't of the highest quality

Good call regarding thread.

Think the quality is not too bad. Cross have come back in quality a bit but a few other clubs have stepped up.
In fairness as, rufus says, the current set up is probably as good as you are going to be able to get for aligning leagues and championships etc.
From a games point of view,  It is better than last year were some clubs had all football finished up for the year in August leaving a free pass for competing sports. A caveat to this is the huge demands that are been placed on the limited number of referees, stewards and volunteers to deal with all these matches. Wouldn't fancy having to organise the logistics of all that!😓😁😁
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on August 16, 2018, 09:29:55 AM

I like the look of the championship format at this stage but of course seeing it run off will be the final verdict. Players want meaningful games and this format provides them in quick succession. Looking forward to it.

I would agree with the league format - I think it's as good as we can do and each league has 8 teams that are very evenly matched.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on August 16, 2018, 10:33:23 AM
Involved in this scene atm and have mixed feeling on it tbh.  It will be interesting to see if the championship 'feel' come into play when we take on our first game.  I grew up playing the "1 bite at the cherry" format and weeks running up to a game was nerve wrecking, this feels different so far to me, if we lose are first game we have a shot at redemption. 

To be fair, just a  duffleking has stated, it is probably the fairest format as we are playing a mix of teams on our level and momentum may play a factor in the knockouts.  I would expect the harps, who have had a topsy turvy season to kick into gear with the run of games. 

Unfortunately due to the volume of games being played and the depth of players that will be used throughout the county, the B competition will become more or less redundant in my eyes. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on August 16, 2018, 11:39:50 AM
B competition already redundant and should probably be graded and made 13aside.
I will give this new set up the benefit of the doubt, it used to be you could reach a final with 3 games, now the best you can do is a quarter final!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Itchy on August 16, 2018, 07:45:08 PM
So lads, Aidan O Rourke is a front runner for the cavan job with Poacher his number 2. What do Armagh guys think of his coaching or management skills. Did he do anything in Armagh? I know his stint in Lough didn't go well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: keeperlit on August 16, 2018, 11:49:40 PM
Dates, times and venues for club championship

http://armaghgaa.net/football/fixtures-senior-intermediate-championship/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on August 17, 2018, 12:30:11 AM
Quote from: Itchy on August 16, 2018, 07:45:08 PM
So lads, Aidan O Rourke is a front runner for the cavan job with Poacher his number 2. What do Armagh guys think of his coaching or management skills. Did he do anything in Armagh? I know his stint in Lough didn't go well.

From what I have seen and heard he would be very thoughtful on tactics and would study football well. From his time as assistant in Armagh he seemed to give referees a bit of stick. As manager that might change. Hopefully he and Poacher will not follow the Carlow method of football if he gets Cavan job.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on August 18, 2018, 04:32:09 PM
Keady beat Middlletown by 2 points in the SHC final, I wasn't expecting that.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Oraisteach on August 18, 2018, 04:43:44 PM
How are the Cuchulainns these days?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on August 21, 2018, 10:12:48 AM
Quote from: Oraisteach on August 18, 2018, 04:43:44 PM
How are the Cuchulainns these days?
Got thumped by Middletown, Derrynoose put it up to Keady though.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on September 17, 2018, 01:31:44 PM
And then there were eight.

All four number one seeds have made it safely into the quarter-finals as group winners, with Harps, Silverbridge, Killeavy and Madden making up the rest.

I took in Madden and Dromintee yesterday at the Nab and I thought Madden were excellent value for their victory. Dromintee scored a very late goal to leave a point in it, but Madden held on for a well deserved win. They now play Maghery and I could see Madden giving them their fill of it - the Grimleys give Madden a strong spine and the bombs they put in on top of Ryan Grimley has the potential to rattle any team - just ask Rangers. Maghery will also be without Aidan Forker, following his red card against ourselves, although that is no doubt subject to an appeal. His absence could be a factor, although Maghery should take it.

St Pats pay Silverbridge. I've seen St Pats once in the Championship, and they were very comfortable against the Ogs. I took in Silverbridge and Sarsfields, and the match remained open only because of the terrible shooting of the Bridge forwards. I just cannot see anything but a St Pats win.

We (Harps) have drawn Rangers. That is the punishment for our failure to close out the Maghery game, when we led by a point, whilst only needing the draw, and with an extra man, we somehow snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. If we are to retain our title, the likelihood is that we will beat three number one seeds to do so, which is a very tall order. Rangers will be warm favourites and will really fancy their chances.

Ballymacnab play Killeavey and whilst the Nab have Championship glory in October in their sites, Killeavey have the potential to make a game of it. They were quite impressive in dispatching the Ogs on Friday night but are likely to find the Nab too big a hurdle. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 17, 2018, 08:00:32 PM
Maghery, St Pats, the Nab and Harps. We are not there yet Rufus. Too many injuries to older men and bar 2-3 the younger lads just haven't pushed on. We are 3-4 players short of challenging and that's not me being a cute hoor!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Last Man on September 18, 2018, 02:46:49 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 17, 2018, 08:00:32 PM
Maghery, St Pats, the Nab and Harps. We are not there yet Rufus. Too many injuries to older men and bar 2-3 the younger lads just haven't pushed on. We are 3-4 players short of challenging and that's not me being a cute hoor!!!
Recommend any good physios in the Portatdown/Lurgan area people? Have a young lad with a knee problem.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 18, 2018, 04:49:23 PM
Quote from: keeperlit on August 16, 2018, 11:49:40 PM
Dates, times and venues for club championship

http://armaghgaa.net/football/fixtures-senior-intermediate-championship/

I hate the way Armagh groups their championships, why wouldn't you just have straight knockout like other counties?  Must take away hugely from the championship itself.  It seems a bit of a nonsense. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on September 18, 2018, 05:14:50 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 18, 2018, 02:46:49 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 17, 2018, 08:00:32 PM
Maghery, St Pats, the Nab and Harps. We are not there yet Rufus. Too many injuries to older men and bar 2-3 the younger lads just haven't pushed on. We are 3-4 players short of challenging and that's not me being a cute hoor!!!
Recommend any good physios in the Portatdown/Lurgan area people? Have a young lad with a knee problem.

I know its not Lurgan or Portadown but would recommend Helen @ PhysioFocus in Armagh clinic - not a million miles away - has done a Phd in physio and have found her to be excellent in the past.  https://physiofocusni.wordpress.com/about/
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: redzone on September 18, 2018, 05:51:08 PM
There is also another Helen Mcelroy in augher who is a brilliant Physio. She is located at the Edge fitness premises.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on September 19, 2018, 07:47:21 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 18, 2018, 04:49:23 PM
I hate the way Armagh groups their championships, why wouldn't you just have straight knockout like other counties?  Must take away hugely from the championship itself.  It seems a bit of a nonsense.

You would get people in Armagh who would probably agree with you, or would like to see some adjustments made to the existing system, but for all that the sense I get is that there have been excellent attendances at the games and a great deal of interest / excitement brought about by what is a novel system.

The system itself has been reached through a lot of trial and error and I reckon now is as close to perfect as is possible, with league and championship closely linked and all teams getting a number of Championship games, once the league issues have been resolved.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Frank_The_Tank on September 19, 2018, 09:50:48 AM
Quote from: redzone on September 18, 2018, 05:51:08 PM
There is also another Helen Mcelroy in augher who is a brilliant Physio. She is located at the Edge fitness premises.

Same Physio - has two clinics - one in Armagh and one in the Edge  8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 19, 2018, 10:27:06 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on September 19, 2018, 07:47:21 AM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on September 18, 2018, 04:49:23 PM
I hate the way Armagh groups their championships, why wouldn't you just have straight knockout like other counties?  Must take away hugely from the championship itself.  It seems a bit of a nonsense.

You would get people in Armagh who would probably agree with you, or would like to see some adjustments made to the existing system, but for all that the sense I get is that there have been excellent attendances at the games and a great deal of interest / excitement brought about by what is a novel system.

The system itself has been reached through a lot of trial and error and I reckon now is as close to perfect as is possible, with league and championship closely linked and all teams getting a number of Championship games, once the league issues have been resolved.
I'm reserving judgment until the championship ends. Not very many shocks in Senior, a few teams had the luxury of an off day which the set up allows for, ultimately the cream rises to the top and apart from Madden who should be commended for reaching the last 8 all the big dogs have made it out of the groups. Intermediate is interesting enough with all teams capable of beating each other and you can't really pick any certain winners from the quarter finals

Interesting  that the club who proposed this set up didn't make it out of their group which I found hilarious
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on September 19, 2018, 10:32:10 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 18, 2018, 02:46:49 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 17, 2018, 08:00:32 PM
Maghery, St Pats, the Nab and Harps. We are not there yet Rufus. Too many injuries to older men and bar 2-3 the younger lads just haven't pushed on. We are 3-4 players short of challenging and that's not me being a cute hoor!!!
Recommend any good physios in the Portatdown/Lurgan area people? Have a young lad with a knee problem.
Paul McCormick
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on September 19, 2018, 11:13:07 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 19, 2018, 10:27:06 AM
Interesting  that the club who proposed this set up didn't make it out of their group which I found hilarious

A wee bit harsh if I may say so, as it was sold on the basis of the benefits for us all and passed on that argument. Without looking in any great detail, I believe they were the only Senior team to win a match and not qualify from their group - I'd guess the chances of that happening were slim.

Interesting also to note that the three teams from that group who qualified all made the quarter-finals, as indeed did the three qualifiers from our own group. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Last Man on September 19, 2018, 01:10:45 PM
Quote from: Frank_The_Tank on September 19, 2018, 09:50:48 AM
Quote from: redzone on September 18, 2018, 05:51:08 PM
There is also another Helen Mcelroy in augher who is a brilliant Physio. She is located at the Edge fitness premises.

Same Physio - has two clinics - one in Armagh and one in the Edge  8)
He's working in Carn Ind est so looking somebody a bit closer but thanks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Last Man on September 19, 2018, 01:14:02 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on September 19, 2018, 10:32:10 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 18, 2018, 02:46:49 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 17, 2018, 08:00:32 PM
Maghery, St Pats, the Nab and Harps. We are not there yet Rufus. Too many injuries to older men and bar 2-3 the younger lads just haven't pushed on. We are 3-4 players short of challenging and that's not me being a cute hoor!!!
Recommend any good physios in the Portatdown/Lurgan area people? Have a young lad with a knee problem.
Paul McCormick
Cheers, didn't know he had a clinic in Lurgan.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 19, 2018, 01:20:36 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on September 19, 2018, 11:13:07 AM
Without looking in any great detail, I believe they were the only Senior team to win a match and not qualify from their group - I'd guess the chances of that happening were slim.



I know it's not Senior, but the same fate befell Tullysaran.  Beating Clonmore who beat the two teams that beat Tullysaran
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Applesisapples on September 19, 2018, 04:18:44 PM
Quote from: Last Man on September 19, 2018, 01:14:02 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on September 19, 2018, 10:32:10 AM
Quote from: Last Man on September 18, 2018, 02:46:49 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 17, 2018, 08:00:32 PM
Maghery, St Pats, the Nab and Harps. We are not there yet Rufus. Too many injuries to older men and bar 2-3 the younger lads just haven't pushed on. We are 3-4 players short of challenging and that's not me being a cute hoor!!!
Recommend any good physios in the Portatdown/Lurgan area people? Have a young lad with a knee problem.
Paul McCormick
Cheers, didn't know he had a clinic in Lurgan.
At the house opposite the council horse riding facility.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Christmas Lights on September 20, 2018, 04:12:05 PM
Quote from: redzone on September 18, 2018, 05:51:08 PM
There is also another Helen Mcelroy in augher who is a brilliant Physio. She is located at the Edge fitness premises.

Hello Helen  8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on September 22, 2018, 05:47:07 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 17, 2018, 08:00:32 PM
Maghery, St Pats, the Nab and Harps. We are not there yet Rufus. Too many injuries to older men and bar 2-3 the younger lads just haven't pushed on. We are 3-4 players short of challenging and that's not me being a cute hoor!!!

Speaking of cute hoors....Paddy Power have Cross 1/2 Harps 2/1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on September 22, 2018, 07:36:33 PM
Harps now 7/1 on Paddy Power😩
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on September 22, 2018, 07:37:54 PM
9/1 now....good man BCB😎

13/1....cash out time🙄
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on September 22, 2018, 07:54:43 PM
HT Cross 0-12 Harps 0-7
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on September 22, 2018, 08:03:48 PM
Harps very lucky to be so close. Cross playing very well, impressed with their keepers kick outs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on September 22, 2018, 08:12:19 PM
1-14 - 0-8.

2-15 - 0-9 there's cute hoors and then there's BCB😂
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on September 22, 2018, 08:43:37 PM
2-22 to 1-15 FT
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 22, 2018, 08:55:53 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on September 22, 2018, 08:12:19 PM
1-14 - 0-8.

2-15 - 0-9 there's cute hoors and then there's BCB😂

😂. In fairness that's the best I've seen us play in a very long time. Given we started without 4-5 normal starting players I was very impressed. Still nothing won so won't get carried away. Harps key men didn't deliver and we punished their mistakes very clinically. Still Cullyhannas to lose
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on September 22, 2018, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 22, 2018, 08:55:53 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on September 22, 2018, 08:12:19 PM
1-14 - 0-8.

2-15 - 0-9 there's cute hoors and then there's BCB😂

😂. In fairness that's the best I've seen us play in a very long time. Given we started without 4-5 normal starting players I was very impressed. Still nothing won so won't get carried away. Harps key men didn't deliver and we punished their mistakes very clinically. Still Cullyhannas to lose

Cross don't lose to Cullyhanna ever😎
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 22, 2018, 09:41:00 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on September 22, 2018, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 22, 2018, 08:55:53 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on September 22, 2018, 08:12:19 PM
1-14 - 0-8.

2-15 - 0-9 there's cute hoors and then there's BCB😂

😂. In fairness that's the best I've seen us play in a very long time. Given we started without 4-5 normal starting players I was very impressed. Still nothing won so won't get carried away. Harps key men didn't deliver and we punished their mistakes very clinically. Still Cullyhannas to lose

Cross don't lose to Cullyhanna ever😎

Well apart from the last time they played them in the championship....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: keeperlit on September 22, 2018, 09:50:14 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on September 22, 2018, 08:03:48 PM
Harps very lucky to be so close. Cross playing very well, impressed with their keepers kick outs.
some of his kick outs, particularly in first half were exceptional. A couple of wayward ones in Second half but it really didn't matter as cross were in complete control. Score line flattered harps imo, who were very disappointing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 22, 2018, 09:58:07 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on September 22, 2018, 08:03:48 PM
Harps very lucky to be so close. Cross playing very well, impressed with their keepers kick outs.

Keeper is only just turned 20. Played outfield up to u16 and was very talented player. Not the biggest but as brave as hell and a very good player as well as a keeper
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 22, 2018, 10:25:23 PM
Good effort tonight, but Cullyhanna might not provide as much space to allow for getting 2-22.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on September 23, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
Is it going to be Ballymacnabs year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 23, 2018, 12:41:09 PM
Quote from: Orior on September 23, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
Is it going to be Ballymacnabs year?

I predict the cup will be in Ballymacnab, about 10 minutes before it arrives in Newtown.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 23, 2018, 12:49:51 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 23, 2018, 12:41:09 PM
Quote from: Orior on September 23, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
Is it going to be Ballymacnabs year?

I predict the cup will be in Ballymacnab, about 10 minutes before it arrives in Newtown.

And then another 8 minutes to Cullyhanna....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 23, 2018, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 23, 2018, 12:49:51 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 23, 2018, 12:41:09 PM
Quote from: Orior on September 23, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
Is it going to be Ballymacnabs year?

I predict the cup will be in Ballymacnab, about 10 minutes before it arrives in Newtown.

And then another 8 minutes to Cullyhanna....

You are going in the right direction. What's next, 7 mins to a giant beacon on Carron Hill?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 23, 2018, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 23, 2018, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 23, 2018, 12:49:51 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 23, 2018, 12:41:09 PM
Quote from: Orior on September 23, 2018, 10:41:15 AM
Is it going to be Ballymacnabs year?

I predict the cup will be in Ballymacnab, about 10 minutes before it arrives in Newtown.

And then another 8 minutes to Cullyhanna....

You are going in the right direction. What's next, 7 mins to a giant beacon on Carron Hill?

Ye never know it might only get as far as Fords Cross!!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2018, 08:43:04 AM
Cross v Cullyhanna
Maghery v Ballymacnab
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on September 25, 2018, 10:54:28 AM
The best 4 teams left in the championship and genuinely think any 4 of them can take it.  Its good to see the Armagh championship so healthy at last. 

Ballymacnab have been outstanding this year and Cullyhanna have been nothing short of great too.  Cross and Maghery are finally gaining steam at the right time also so 2 great semi finals coming up. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 25, 2018, 01:30:10 PM
Genuinely think both games will be very tight. Cullyhanna and Maghery slight favourites but we could cause an upset and the Nab are the form team. Wouldn't rule any result out.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on September 27, 2018, 02:35:20 PM
 Hope to at least make the cross v cullyhanna game. Has the potential to be a cracker with a bit of needle  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 27, 2018, 03:00:01 PM
Maghery should dispose of the Nab, they are a bit more streetwise and the Nab have a weakness in defence.

Cross v Cullyhanna will be interesting and this could easily be the final I feel. Cullyhanna ambushed Cross 2 years ago in a game in which they were clearly second best. However the gap has narrowed since then as Cross have slipped back and Cullyhanna have improved sightly. Cross are 1/3 favourites with the bookies but it can only be based on past reputation and not current form. Up until last week I would have favoured Cullyhanna but Cross have got a few key players back and were seriously impressive against Harps last week so I believe that they will just about edge it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on September 28, 2018, 08:32:28 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 27, 2018, 03:00:01 PM
Cross v Cullyhanna will be interesting and this could easily be the final I feel. Cullyhanna ambushed Cross 2 years ago in a game in which they were clearly second best. However the gap has narrowed since then as Cross have slipped back and Cullyhanna have improved sightly. Cross are 1/3 favourites with the bookies but it can only be based on past reputation and not current form. Up until last week I would have favoured Cullyhanna but Cross have got a few key players back and were seriously impressive against Harps last week so I believe that they will just about edge it.

Can't wait to see this match myself. Rangers were very impressive against us, but I feel looking back on it that a lot of that owed as much to our inadequacies on the night as it did to Rangers' excellence. That's why I am so looking forward to this match. My sense will be that St Pats will put a greater onus on keeping their defence much tighter than we did, which should leave it a close game.

The Nab have been very impressive this year, albeit in the league. They have had not had top play any of the main Championship challengers yet in the Championship, so this will represent a step up in class for them. James Lavery looked to have major fitness concerns against Madden, and his presence / absence could be crucial.

If I was pushed to give an opinion, I would tentatively go for a Rangers v Maghery final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 04, 2018, 05:30:37 PM
So with our injuries and St Pats run of form they will probably beat us with 3-4 spare. If Lavery is out then that's a huge blow for the lough shores men. The second semi will be a tight affair with Maghery  nicking it by a point I reckon as experience will tell
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: illdecide on October 08, 2018, 10:31:18 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on October 08, 2018, 03:28:58 PM
Just reading the IN on line, quote ''If Crossmaglen's not there (referring to county final), it's not a county final" Kieran Donnelly, assistant manager from Crossmaglen. What a complete arrogant BS, not an ounce of humility.

I remember us getting beat by Cross in the County final and Donal Murtagh came into our changing rooms after the game to commiserate with us but told us not to be too down as we got beat by a better Cross team and there was no shame in losing to Cross, keep the heads up and try and come back again...Holy sweet f**k, instead of saying unlucky lads, thanks for the good hard game he comes in to our changing rooms after losing a County final to tell us how good Cross are :-X
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 08, 2018, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: illdecide on October 08, 2018, 10:31:18 PM
Quote from: Thastheball on October 08, 2018, 03:28:58 PM
Just reading the IN on line, quote ''If Crossmaglen's not there (referring to county final), it's not a county final" Kieran Donnelly, assistant manager from Crossmaglen. What a complete arrogant BS, not an ounce of humility.

I remember us getting beat by Cross in the County final and Donal Murtagh came into our changing rooms after the game to commiserate with us but told us not to be too down as we got beat by a better Cross team and there was no shame in losing to Cross, keep the heads up and try and come back again...Holy sweet f**k, instead of saying unlucky lads, thanks for the good hard game he comes in to our changing rooms after losing a County final to tell us how good Cross are :-X

How did you get on since?  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 08, 2018, 11:13:18 PM
Ballymacnab 0-14
Crossmaglen 0-13
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 08, 2018, 11:49:06 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 08, 2018, 11:13:18 PM
Ballymacnab 0-14
Crossmaglen 0-13

What competition is this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on October 09, 2018, 08:28:08 AM
Think most neutrals would love to see the Nab win, but Cross don't lose many finals.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 09, 2018, 08:33:46 AM
Quote from: Thastheball on October 08, 2018, 03:28:58 PM
Just reading the IN on line, quote ''If Crossmaglen's not there (referring to county final), it's not a county final" Kieran Donnelly, assistant manager from Crossmaglen. What a complete arrogant BS, not an ounce of humility.

;D

There's more than you commenting on it!   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 09, 2018, 08:36:06 AM
Quote from: Orior on October 08, 2018, 11:13:18 PM
Ballymacnab 0-14
Crossmaglen 0-13

I've seen both sides in this year's Championship and I'd have to say it will be a shock of seismic proportions if the Nab go on to do it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 09, 2018, 09:46:20 AM
The nab weren't too hot against maghery who everyone fancied but they still edged it.. it might be a bridge too far to topple cross.. not sure they have the players to deal with the cross forwards. That said would love to see them do it, they've been the form team all year
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 09, 2018, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: general_lee on October 09, 2018, 09:46:20 AM
The nab weren't too hot against maghery who everyone fancied but they still edged it..

The Maghery challenge was crippled by losses to injury. I felt there was an opportunity for the Nab to make a big statement and they only just about crawled across the line. It was a tight match with the first goal likely to be key to the result. The nature of the goal was in keeping with the Nab performance - an attempt for a point falling woefully short and being fisted to the net as it fell into the square.

The Nab won't worry about that, as the result was everything, but I thought too many of their big players were largely anonymous, particularly Jack Grugan. If they hope to topple Cross, then all of their big names will need to lead from the front.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 09, 2018, 10:50:36 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 08, 2018, 11:49:06 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 08, 2018, 11:13:18 PM
Ballymacnab 0-14
Crossmaglen 0-13

What competition is this?

Sorry - my prediction!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on October 10, 2018, 07:52:20 AM
Like others, I'd be amazed if Nab overturn Cross in the final. Maghery were without their 2 best midfielders yet Nab just about did enough in the semi final. Cross have stepped up a gear from the League campaign after the return of a few key players.

One month ago, I wouldn't have had Cross down as favourites to win the championship but they have been very impressive in their last 2 matches and can realistically have an outside chance of winning an Ulster championship given their pedigree. Particularly given the fact that there doesn't appear to be any one clear outstanding team in Ulster at the minute. I still think they have plenty of weaknesses in certain areas but they have a core group of about 5 or 6 players who are vital to their success.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 10, 2018, 09:20:52 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 10, 2018, 07:52:20 AM
Like others, I'd be amazed if Nab overturn Cross in the final. Maghery were without their 2 best midfielders yet Nab just about did enough in the semi final. Cross have stepped up a gear from the League campaign after the return of a few key players.

One month ago, I wouldn't have had Cross down as favourites to win the championship but they have been very impressive in their last 2 matches and can realistically have an outside chance of winning an Ulster championship given their pedigree. Particularly given the fact that there doesn't appear to be any one clear outstanding team in Ulster at the minute. I still think they have plenty of weaknesses in certain areas but they have a core group of about 5 or 6 players who are vital to their success.

Jesus lads let us get over the Nab first before talking Ulster's 😂. A county championship would be a huge achievement this year and if we do that I reckon they might rest at that
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on October 11, 2018, 11:49:58 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 10, 2018, 09:20:52 AM
Quote from: yellowcard on October 10, 2018, 07:52:20 AM
Like others, I'd be amazed if Nab overturn Cross in the final. Maghery were without their 2 best midfielders yet Nab just about did enough in the semi final. Cross have stepped up a gear from the League campaign after the return of a few key players.

One month ago, I wouldn't have had Cross down as favourites to win the championship but they have been very impressive in their last 2 matches and can realistically have an outside chance of winning an Ulster championship given their pedigree. Particularly given the fact that there doesn't appear to be any one clear outstanding team in Ulster at the minute. I still think they have plenty of weaknesses in certain areas but they have a core group of about 5 or 6 players who are vital to their success.

Jesus lads let us get over the Nab first before talking Ulster's 😂. A county championship would be a huge achievement this year and if we do that I reckon they might rest at that

I think you would have taken a county championship at the beginning of the year. However Cross have the pedigree in Ulster that other clubs simply do not and that counts for a lot. The performances of both Maghery and Harps in the last 2 years show how difficult it is for first time winners to compete successfully at provincial level. I don't think Cross will fall into that trap providing they get the job done against the Nab. Whether they are good enough to compete to win Ulster, I'm not too sure yet but it won't be for the want of resting on their laurels.

I just don't see a standout team in the province this year. Kilcoo, Scotstown would be the obvious choices but they will likely end up playing each other in the first game.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 11, 2018, 02:29:14 PM
Kilcoo a lot of injuries, only burren are scared of them and will inevitably dump their trunks they'd be doing well to get out of Down.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2018, 12:20:29 PM
With Ollie H as ref anything is possible in the final. I presume his sidekick McKinley with be a linesman or 4th official. Must get ready for the Mulkerns ambush😂
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on October 12, 2018, 05:05:12 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2018, 12:20:29 PM
With Ollie H as ref anything is possible in the final. I presume his sidekick McKinley with be a linesman or 4th official. Must get ready for the Mulkerns ambush😂

Surely neither of those boys would be allowed on the premises on county final day?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2018, 05:49:26 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on October 12, 2018, 05:05:12 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 12, 2018, 12:20:29 PM
With Ollie H as ref anything is possible in the final. I presume his sidekick McKinley with be a linesman or 4th official. Must get ready for the Mulkerns ambush😂

Surely neither of those boys would be allowed on the premises on county final day?

I was accosted by one of them one day in the off licence in Mulkerns and challenged over comments attributed to me on the Armagh forum. Not only did I not deny them but I repeated them to his face and added a few more 🤣
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on October 21, 2018, 05:03:52 PM
Is BCB about to get a prediction right? Nab leading by a goal
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on October 21, 2018, 05:08:20 PM
1 in it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on October 21, 2018, 05:09:52 PM
Level
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on October 21, 2018, 05:11:26 PM
Cross 1 up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on October 21, 2018, 05:14:06 PM
3 up
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on October 21, 2018, 05:16:05 PM
4 in it, Cross have gone from 2/1 to 1/80😳😳
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on October 21, 2018, 05:21:52 PM
5 in it, 8 points in a row for Cross
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on October 21, 2018, 05:27:02 PM
6 in it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on October 21, 2018, 05:31:19 PM
All over Cross by 6, hard luck Nab
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Insane Bolt on October 21, 2018, 05:32:24 PM
22 points from play and 2 frees......some scoring
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 21, 2018, 07:20:15 PM
Some fine scores from both sides here, good advert for Armagh football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 21, 2018, 07:22:06 PM
Nearly got my prediction right!!!  An excellent game with both teams playing very good football. Jack Grugan hit some excellent scores in the first half. A couple of the young lads really stepped up today and not the ones you'd expect. I thought Paudie Stuttart and Johnny McKeever our in a great shift.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: charlieTully on October 21, 2018, 09:35:01 PM
Will the fianna give cross any trouble at all?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on October 21, 2018, 10:01:09 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on October 21, 2018, 09:35:01 PM
Will the fianna give cross any trouble at all?

BCB will tell you that Cross are a young team who have overachieved this year and Coalisland should start favourites  ;D

Personally I would expect a close game. If McGahon plays at full forward he could cause Cross trouble. At the other end who McKernan picks up and how he does could also be key. Hampsey  will need a big game.

It will be interesting to see the free count. Cross have given away very few frees in the championship key games this year. Coalisland on the other hand seem to need frees to keep the scoring board going. I have a feeling referees in Armagh in general are not too whistle happy. Things may change in Ulster.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 22, 2018, 08:05:05 AM
Quote from: Throw ball on October 21, 2018, 10:01:09 PM
Quote from: charlieTully on October 21, 2018, 09:35:01 PM
Will the fianna give cross any trouble at all?

BCB will tell you that Cross are a young team who have overachieved this year and Coalisland should start favourites  ;D


Jesus you read my mind!!! 

Honestly though a lot will depend on how our lads enjoy this one. It really is a huge achievement for this young team. 6 starters u21 and 2 subs who came on, one being a minor. Probably a year ahead of schedule for them but the success of yesterday can only be a boost. As Aaron said in his after match speech it's hard being a Cross senior if you don't have at least a county medal in your pocket so hopefully this will be the start for a lot of them to build a strong future.

I know very little about Coalisland apart from the Hampsey lads and Donnelly in nets but they beat a fancied Killyclogher team and have been knocking the door for a few seasons. They too may party but from Reports close to the camp it has been heard that an Ulster challenge is in their radar with some of the stronger teams out.  Peter Donnelly is a cute hoor in nets and will have them well ready for the battle. Having home advantage is a small bit of a bonus for us but ironically Coalisland is closer to Armagh than Cross!!!

Hopefully our older bodies heal quickly and the few lads carrying injuries into yesterday will heal a bit more and the lads in longer injuries can get closer to full fitness. We have a good chance but there's a lot to do yet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on October 22, 2018, 09:53:06 AM
One of the better finals in Armagh over the last few years and credit goes to both teams and the ref, who let it flow.  Thought the nab capitalised well on the high ball into the forward line, Grugan was hard to handle and is the old school full forward you rarely see anymore. 

Up the other end, cross were clinical as expected and the game was won in midfield with O'Neil and Hanratty doing the business (didn't realise Hanratty could shoot).  They were impressive all over the park, but seemed slightly exposed at the back.  It will be interesting to see how far the proceed in Ulster. 

I think the Nab may have missed there chance and be hard to see them pushing hard next year as they did this.  Armagh football is in a healthy position regardless. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: The Iceman on October 22, 2018, 01:48:41 PM
looked to be a great game of football from the highlights....
I know you can't tell much from one game, so to those who have seen Jack Grugan and that young lad McConville throughout the campaign - whats the thoughts on them? Is Jack county standard now? McConville future prospect?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BIGONE on November 07, 2018, 03:59:47 PM
By all accounts ballymacnabb had Cross beat and then they substituted their keeper?
All these Maghery men think they'd have beat Cross easy in the final and that it's coming back down the road to them again next year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 07, 2018, 06:05:02 PM
Quote from: BIGONE on November 07, 2018, 03:59:47 PM
By all accounts ballymacnabb had Cross beat and then they substituted their keeper?
All these Maghery men think they'd have beat Cross easy in the final and that it's coming back down the road to them again next year?

Well sure let them think that. Next year is next year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on November 07, 2018, 06:22:48 PM
Quote from: BIGONE on November 07, 2018, 03:59:47 PM
By all accounts ballymacnabb had Cross beat and then they substituted their keeper?
All these Maghery men think they'd have beat Cross easy in the final and that it's coming back down the road to them again next year?

Cross were well on top when the keeper was subbed. Maghery and Harps had their problems this year and they along with Ballymacnab and Cullyhanna will give Cross their fill of it next year. Hopefully another team steps forward too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on November 09, 2018, 10:27:06 AM
Quote from: BIGONE on November 07, 2018, 03:59:47 PM
By all accounts ballymacnabb had Cross beat and then they substituted their keeper?
All these Maghery men think they'd have beat Cross easy in the final and that it's coming back down the road to them again next year?

(http://www.embroidery-professionals.com/i/1Signs/16_gone_fishing.jpg)

Thinking about next year, and indeed for the next few years, my fear would be a reassertion of Rangers dominance. I think Maghery were undone this year by injuries to key players, which exposed the lack of depth in their squad. However the age profile of some of their most important players suggests to me that this side will not again reach the peak of their 2017 semi-final victory over Rangers.

For St Pats, this year represented a crushing disappointment, and a personal friend who is close to the team was of the opinion that they had put everything into this year and that they are unlikely now to be able to make a title winning challenge in the near future. Certainly the manner in which they were beaten in the semi-final is bound to have left long term mental scars.

The Nab are a bit like St Pats - put a huge effort into this year, and but for Rangers unforeseen renaissance, there is a likelihood they may have snatched their Holy Grail. Now they are as far away as ever and know that they played to the absolute limit of their powers and still come up short. That will also be a big psychological blow to come back from. The Nab's issue is that they lack strength in depth in what is a twenty man game. The County Final was as loud a reinforcement of that principle as it was possible to get.

I don't believe this Rangers team are as good as previous incarnations but they have a young profile and are likely to improve over the coming years, which is ominous for the rest of us.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 09, 2018, 11:01:15 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on November 09, 2018, 10:27:06 AM
Quote from: BIGONE on November 07, 2018, 03:59:47 PM
By all accounts ballymacnabb had Cross beat and then they substituted their keeper?
All these Maghery men think they'd have beat Cross easy in the final and that it's coming back down the road to them again next year?

(http://www.embroidery-professionals.com/i/1Signs/16_gone_fishing.jpg)

Thinking about next year, and indeed for the next few years, my fear would be a reassertion of Rangers dominance. I think Maghery were undone this year by injuries to key players, which exposed the lack of depth in their squad. However the age profile of some of their most important players suggests to me that this side will not again reach the peak of their 2017 semi-final victory over Rangers.

For St Pats, this year represented a crushing disappointment, and a personal friend who is close to the team was of the opinion that they had put everything into this year and that they are unlikely now to be able to make a title winning challenge in the near future. Certainly the manner in which they were beaten in the semi-final is bound to have left long term mental scars.

The Nab are a bit like St Pats - put a huge effort into this year, and but for Rangers unforeseen renaissance, there is a likelihood they may have snatched their Holy Grail. Now they are as far away as ever and know that they played to the absolute limit of their powers and still come up short. That will also be a big psychological blow to come back from. The Nab's issue is that they lack strength in depth in what is a twenty man game. The County Final was as loud a reinforcement of that principle as it was possible to get.

I don't believe this Rangers team are as good as previous incarnations but they have a young profile and are likely to improve over the coming years, which is ominous for the rest of us.

That's a pretty fair assessment Rufus.  I think the key for us in the future is that the players that are playing in the central areas are still quite young or indeed the majority are very young.  James Morgan is mid 20's, 2 O'Neill's and Stephen Morris in midfield are u21.  With Jamie back now next year we will have a more lethal forward line.  I have to say the idea of having him, Tony Kernan, Rian, Kyle Carragher and young Cian McConville in a forward line along with 1 from any 4-5 players is pretty exciting.  AK will be very hard to replace,  but this was said before about other great players and there wasn't that much of an issue.  There is plenty of talent coming through from underage,  you don't win repeated minors and u21s without their being talent.  This years win was crucial in that it was the young lads 'first' one on their own as such and consequently it will breed confidence.  I know what is coming through,  there are 2 more O'Neill brothers for instance, and the youngest has the potential to be the best.  He is only 13 but by the time his older brothers are established in their mid 20's he, and a great bunch of young lads of his age, will all be breaking through.  3-4 every year I reckon for the next 5-6 years will start to replace the older guard.  What will also happen then is the likes of the Kernan brothers will be looking at the management of the seniors and they will not accept anything except the very best.  Stephen is already cutting his teeth and has won a minor in his first year in the job. 

Are they as good as previous teams?  Potentially I think they are and a few wins under the belt and you could see a similar dominance that was there before.  The only real challenge at underage to the players coming through was Clann Eireann and you can already see the wheels falling off them now.  13 in a row will not happen but there's plenty going to be won
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BIGONE on November 09, 2018, 11:41:45 AM
You would have to questions Cross' depth when they had to introduce Tony Kernan in Ulster club who has barely kicked a ball this year? Maghery clear up the injuries and they definitely have another championship in them. Great appointment by Armagh with McKeever taking over the U17's. Lads will have great respect for him which is a good starting point.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on November 09, 2018, 11:44:00 AM
Quote from: BIGONE on November 09, 2018, 11:41:45 AM
You would have to questions Cross' depth when they had to introduce Tony Kernan in Ulster club who has barely kicked a ball this year?

Because they wanted him to "kick a ball" before the next round?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on November 09, 2018, 04:05:33 PM
Can't see anyone consistently challenging Cross anytime soon and it's the same old problem, the chasing teams have no real championship pedigree (bar Harps).

Cullyhanna maybe have the players but haven't the balls to win a championship, much like Dromintee in years gone by. That ship has sailed.

The nab put a mammoth effort in this year but it will take more of the same to even get close and whether they have it in them remains to be seen. Could be another Cullyhanna

Time is not on maghery's side. If things go their way and with a bit of luck they could *maybe* reach the heights of 2016. Not sure they have much talent coming through the ranks though?

Harps seem to have gone backwards last year. Not sure what happened but if they regrouped it's possible they could challenge as they have the players and the tradition of winning championships.

Clann Eireann were the great white hope but have regressed, still time for them though, it's easy saying the wheels come off when you compare what their young players have to look up to compared to their peers in cross.

Rest of Div 1A and B are much of a muchness and won't be causing any surprises anytime soon. Looks like Gerry Fegan will be in cross for the foreseeable
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on November 09, 2018, 04:40:19 PM
Agree with General Lee on most points. 

Cross have young players in major positions across the pitch and they are confident enough to use them there.  They had a tough campaign in Armagh and are now playing in Ulster, this experience is invaluable. 

Don't agree with the point on the Harps though.  To be honest, Lennon is their main scoring threat up front, but nobody else seems to be delivering them the same firepower and his number is already marked.  I've watched them a few times during the year and they were poor all over the pitch.  Shocking to see how much the digressed from the year before. 

There are 3/4 teams that will realistically be challenging for the championship next year.  The usual 3 contenders of cross, cullyhanna and maghery and any other team in 1a that hits form and has confidence, whether that be the nab or the harps again. 

There is a clear divide in standard between 1a and 1b, no division 1b teams will be anywhere near the business end in my honest opinion.  But again, the format of league and championship seeding was a huge success. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on November 09, 2018, 05:37:19 PM
Although I would agree that Cross hold the aces at the minute I still feel that next season any of Cullyhanna, Ballymacnab , Harps or Maghery could beat them. Maghery had major injuries this year. I was disappointed in Cullyhanna but in Nugent, Duffy and McQuillan, among others, they have some very good players. Nab are short on depth and would be disappointed in this season. Harps had a bad year but have good players and did get to minor final this year so will have others coming through. They might need a change in direction though either through new management or a shake up in tactics. My big hope is that teams go our believing they can win rather than throwing the towel in as they did in the past.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on November 10, 2018, 09:48:44 AM
I don't think there was an awareness around the County of how potent Rangers were going to be prior to the knockout stages of the Senior Championship. They finished the group match against Madden holding on by their finger nails as Madden came looking an equalizer, having just beaten Silverbridge by a point. This was coming on the back of their absence from the County Finals of 2016 and 2017.

When they beat us by ten points in the quarter-final, many were keen to emphasise how inept our display was (and it was) but having watched their fire power up front that night, I was sure they were going to take the title. As BC has pointed out, they have a relatively young team who will take great confidence from that victory.

For us, this season never ever got going. We had a few long term injuries to key players and a number of other important players lost form. Furthermore, our commitment to the County in terms of personnel meant that we could never get a settled team that would have resembled our Championship 15. However ultimately, the main issue for me was that our Championship success of last year sated the collective appetite and that showed in many performances throughout the year. There was not the raw hunger there. If we are to mount a serious challenge in 2019, there is no doubt that key to that will be the attitude of the players and how much they want to get back to the top.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on November 10, 2018, 10:26:39 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on November 10, 2018, 09:48:44 AM
I don't think there was an awareness around the County of how potent Rangers were going to be prior to the knockout stages of the Senior Championship. They finished the group match against Madden holding on by their finger nails as Madden came looking an equalizer, having just beaten Silverbridge by a point. This was coming on the back of their absence from the County Finals of 2016 and 2017.

When they beat us by ten points in the quarter-final, many were keen to emphasise how inept our display was (and it was) but having watched their fire power up front that night, I was sure they were going to take the title. As BC has pointed out, they have a relatively young team who will take great confidence from that victory.

For us, this season never ever got going. We had a few long term injuries to key players and a number of other important players lost form. Furthermore, our commitment to the County in terms of personnel meant that we could never get a settled team that would have resembled our Championship 15. However ultimately, the main issue for me was that our Championship success of last year sated the collective appetite and that showed in many performances throughout the year. There was not the raw hunger there. If we are to mount a serious challenge in 2019, there is no doubt that key to that will be the attitude of the players and how much they want to get back to the top.   

Rufus

I spoke to a few men who would have been involved with the Harps over the years and would be at most matches and the general consensus from them was that the team was suffering a bit from same voice syndrome. Don't know if the players felt that way mind but anytime I saw the Harps this year they struck me as a team more or less going through the motions. Do you think either a change of management or a change of approach would be necessary for next year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on November 10, 2018, 10:39:02 AM
Quote from: David McKeown on November 10, 2018, 10:26:39 AM
Rufus I spoke to a few men who would have been involved with the Harps over the years and would be at most matches and the general consensus from them was that the team was suffering a bit from same voice syndrome. Don't know if the players felt that way mind but anytime I saw the Harps this year they struck me as a team more or less going through the motions. Do you think either a change of management or a change of approach would be necessary for next year?

Yes, I think there would be an argument for freshening things up, definitely.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on November 10, 2018, 02:15:20 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on November 09, 2018, 05:37:19 PM
Although I would agree that Cross hold the aces at the minute I still feel that next season any of Cullyhanna, Ballymacnab , Harps or Maghery could beat them. Maghery had major injuries this year. I was disappointed in Cullyhanna but in Nugent, Duffy and McQuillan, among others, they have some very good players. Nab are short on depth and would be disappointed in this season. Harps had a bad year but have good players and did get to minor final this year so will have others coming through. They might need a change in direction though either through new management or a shake up in tactics. My big hope is that teams go our believing they can win rather than throwing the towel in as they did in the past.

My only observation is that if Clarke does return, and that is never certain, then such a good additional player could turn Rangers from a team others might beat on a good day into one that was very hard to beat.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 10, 2018, 03:09:12 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 10, 2018, 02:15:20 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on November 09, 2018, 05:37:19 PM
Although I would agree that Cross hold the aces at the minute I still feel that next season any of Cullyhanna, Ballymacnab , Harps or Maghery could beat them. Maghery had major injuries this year. I was disappointed in Cullyhanna but in Nugent, Duffy and McQuillan, among others, they have some very good players. Nab are short on depth and would be disappointed in this season. Harps had a bad year but have good players and did get to minor final this year so will have others coming through. They might need a change in direction though either through new management or a shake up in tactics. My big hope is that teams go our believing they can win rather than throwing the towel in as they did in the past.

My only observation is that if Clarke does return, and that is never certain, then such a good additional player could turn Rangers from a team others might beat on a good day into one that was very hard to beat.

His transfer back has been complete so he will be playing for us next season
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on November 10, 2018, 08:48:47 PM
I think it's a little bit premature to be speculating about another period of Cross dominance just yet although it is easy to make a case for it alright. The reality is that they are heavily dependent on the 2 O'Neills and would not have won a championship without either. They have weaknesses in their full back line and the jury is still out on the new keeper.

That said, they obviously have a good production line of talent coming through and if they can add Clarke and Cian McConville into that full forward line I can't see anyone beating them next year.

As others have suggested, Cullyhanna would be the next best in terms of talent but they have been nearly men for too long now and may have missed their best chance this year. Maghery are an ageing side and Clann Eireann are typical of a town team who struggle to keep their players as they move out of the underage system. Below the top 4/5 teams there is not a great deal of depth in Armagh club football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: BIGONE on November 12, 2018, 04:23:04 PM
Maghery on the hunt for new management I hear?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rory on January 10, 2019, 10:16:15 AM
Have Armagh changed their age groups for this year?  U14 is now U14.5 etc.  Heard that and was wondering if it is coming in.  Does it mean U16 is U16.5 and Minor is U18.5?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2019, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: rory on January 10, 2019, 10:16:15 AM
Have Armagh changed their age groups for this year?  U14 is now U14.5 etc.  Heard that and was wondering if it is coming in.  Does it mean U16 is U16.5 and Minor is U18.5?

That's correct Rory. Seems to be following the school years now the way it is up to U12
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: rory on January 10, 2019, 11:44:05 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2019, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: rory on January 10, 2019, 10:16:15 AM
Have Armagh changed their age groups for this year?  U14 is now U14.5 etc.  Heard that and was wondering if it is coming in.  Does it mean U16 is U16.5 and Minor is U18.5?

That's correct Rory. Seems to be following the school years now the way it is up to U12

Personally, I think this is the best way to go.  Fellas get to play with their school year all the way up instead of being split every other year from their peer group and it means that Minors have that extra half year to play at that level (instead of old 7th years having to play adult football)

Although, how does this fit in with the current Croke Park thinking that U17 should be Minor.  Armagh are basically going in the opposite direction.  I've never been a fan of the U17 thing.  I look at some lads who would be moving in to adult football after U17 and think they'll be lost as they haven't matured physically to deal with it and will probably quit.  I know counties are meant to have U20 leagues to keep these kind of boys going, but I can't see those leagues working as a lot of clubs will have 18, 19 and 20 year olds playing for their adult teams and the U20 teams would struggle for numbers. 

Think this is a great decision by Armagh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 10, 2019, 11:55:56 AM
Waiting on confirmation from Croke Park that they approve the changes, hopefully it'll be given this weekend. As someone whose birthday is on 31st December these changes are long overdue!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on January 10, 2019, 12:12:56 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on January 10, 2019, 11:55:56 AM
Waiting on confirmation from Croke Park that they approve the changes, hopefully it'll be given this weekend. As someone whose birthday is on 31st December these changes are long overdue!

You'll still be overage though!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2019, 12:44:52 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on January 10, 2019, 12:12:56 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on January 10, 2019, 11:55:56 AM
Waiting on confirmation from Croke Park that they approve the changes, hopefully it'll be given this weekend. As someone whose birthday is on 31st December these changes are long overdue!

You'll still be overage though!

My brother was born on the 1st January!  He was a big hallion as well so it was great for him to be able to push the smaller kids around ;D

Quote from: rory on January 10, 2019, 11:44:05 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on January 10, 2019, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: rory on January 10, 2019, 10:16:15 AM
Have Armagh changed their age groups for this year?  U14 is now U14.5 etc.  Heard that and was wondering if it is coming in.  Does it mean U16 is U16.5 and Minor is U18.5?

That's correct Rory. Seems to be following the school years now the way it is up to U12

Personally, I think this is the best way to go.  Fellas get to play with their school year all the way up instead of being split every other year from their peer group and it means that Minors have that extra half year to play at that level (instead of old 7th years having to play adult football)

Although, how does this fit in with the current Croke Park thinking that U17 should be Minor.  Armagh are basically going in the opposite direction.  I've never been a fan of the U17 thing.  I look at some lads who would be moving in to adult football after U17 and think they'll be lost as they haven't matured physically to deal with it and will probably quit.  I know counties are meant to have U20 leagues to keep these kind of boys going, but I can't see those leagues working as a lot of clubs will have 18, 19 and 20 year olds playing for their adult teams and the U20 teams would struggle for numbers. 

Think this is a great decision by Armagh.

While i agree with you in this the difficulty I see is that once the teams go out of Armagh then they lose players.  For instance, the Cross minor team that won this years will only lose 1 player from that team for next years Armagh championship.  If they won the county though they would lose a further 3-4 players for the St Pauls competition.  The same will happen with teams that win at u16 and the McGirr tournament.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jimmy on January 10, 2019, 01:56:27 PM
I think Tyrone tried to go the under 14/16/18 and a half a while back and it was turned down by Croke Park. The rule book defines the year from the 1st January and they weren't allowed to go against it. Rule 6.17 if anyone is that interested.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Harold Disgracey on January 30, 2019, 03:25:03 PM
Some good news, the motion was approved.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh Cúchulainns on February 02, 2019, 04:21:40 PM
Quote from: Harold Disgracey on January 30, 2019, 03:25:03 PM
Some good news, the motion was approved.


Poor news for some clubs and players.
Feels like some clubs looking for short term gains/success in my opinion.
Pity it was passed at all. Creates a load of issues for clubs and teams in preparing for new season.

In our own club, we enter neighbouring county leagues for more quality games - this makes a mess of preparing and building a team.

One player for example could now be eligible for games at U13, U14.5, and U15 without playing above his age - madness
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: keeperlit on February 23, 2019, 10:08:43 PM
Well, pre season well underway at this stage. Who are people's fancy for the sfc, ifc and Jfc 2019?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on September 14, 2020, 05:47:03 PM
Is it time for all the Kernan's on the Ranger's team to call it a day?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: thejuice on September 15, 2020, 01:31:41 PM
Some great goals in that game. Cross looked very shakey at the back.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on September 15, 2020, 06:58:39 PM
Quote from: thejuice on September 15, 2020, 01:31:41 PM
Some great goals in that game. Cross looked very shakey at the back.

I wasn't at the game, and only saw the goals, but there was an impression of some very naive defending. I would imagine that there will be a serious inquest in Crossmaglen as to the nature of that defeat and the tactics employed. I'd have to say that I was delighted for Maghery, as they've had more than their fair share of finals defeats.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 15, 2020, 07:18:14 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on September 15, 2020, 06:58:39 PM
Quote from: thejuice on September 15, 2020, 01:31:41 PM
Some great goals in that game. Cross looked very shakey at the back.

I wasn't at the game, and only saw the goals, but there was an impression of some very naive defending. I would imagine that there will be a serious inquest in Crossmaglen as to the nature of that defeat and the tactics employed. I'd have to say that I was delighted for Maghery, as they've had more than their fair share of finals defeats.

I expect there will be a post mortem on this, the Cross rearguard personnel Hughes, Morgan etc are good enough, so the question has to be on their deployment.
As the minor game this evening showed, if you score 4 goals you will rarely lose a game, and the opposite applies.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on September 19, 2020, 03:17:50 PM
Armagh final now online free.
https://armaghgaa.net/football/senior-final-rerun-free-to-view/

It has been 38 years since Rangers were last beaten in an Armagh final, so this is an opportunity to see something rare and unusual.
I'm not sure I will be around in 38 years time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: insidethewhiteline on December 08, 2020, 01:50:57 PM
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Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Conks on August 20, 2022, 10:20:35 AM
Good to see Teak Tough Geezer get a new deal. No better WARRIOR for the job!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: TakeTheMark on August 26, 2022, 08:40:05 PM
A long shot considering this board is pretty much a ghost town... but anyway, where would you find the Armagh championship fixtures? The fixtures section of the website doesn't seem to have been updated for the championship since 2020.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on August 26, 2022, 11:54:22 PM
https://armaghgaa.net/fixtures-and-results/

Need to scroll right down
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on August 29, 2022, 01:48:32 PM
Quote from: general_lee on August 26, 2022, 11:54:22 PM
https://armaghgaa.net/fixtures-and-results/

Need to scroll right down

Finding the fixture schedule is not very user friendly. Worse is the fact that a League table can't be found anywhere, the website used to be much better.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: WT4E on September 11, 2022, 11:16:29 AM
Right ould spat goin on on twitter about Cross. Seems to coming from Aaron cunnigham. What's goin on?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 5times5times on September 11, 2022, 06:52:39 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 11, 2022, 11:16:29 AM
Right ould spat goin on on twitter about Cross. Seems to coming from Aaron cunnigham. What's goin on?

Crossmaglen committee informed Cross management, that Clarke should be barred from playing, while being on Newry City soccer books.

Disgraceful actions from the club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: WT4E on September 11, 2022, 07:56:28 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on September 11, 2022, 06:52:39 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 11, 2022, 11:16:29 AM
Right ould spat goin on on twitter about Cross. Seems to coming from Aaron cunnigham. What's goin on?

Crossmaglen committee informed Cross management, that Clarke should be barred from playing, while being on Newry City soccer books.

Disgraceful actions from the club.

I see Johnny murtagh denying it on twitter to cunningham
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 5times5times on September 11, 2022, 08:04:29 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 11, 2022, 07:56:28 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on September 11, 2022, 06:52:39 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 11, 2022, 11:16:29 AM
Right ould spat goin on on twitter about Cross. Seems to coming from Aaron cunnigham. What's goin on?

Crossmaglen committee informed Cross management, that Clarke should be barred from playing, while being on Newry City soccer books.

Disgraceful actions from the club.

I see Johnny murtagh denying it on twitter to cunningham

Seen that, but Clarkes brother has just confirmed it on twitter. I think I'll take his brothers word over an ex Cross player.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: downtown on September 11, 2022, 08:33:32 PM
What's the brothers account ??

Sone shambles in the senior draw. Had to redo it due to no ball in the pot for mullaghbawn
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: WT4E on September 11, 2022, 08:48:13 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on September 11, 2022, 08:04:29 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 11, 2022, 07:56:28 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on September 11, 2022, 06:52:39 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 11, 2022, 11:16:29 AM
Right ould spat goin on on twitter about Cross. Seems to coming from Aaron cunnigham. What's goin on?

Crossmaglen committee informed Cross management, that Clarke should be barred from playing, while being on Newry City soccer books.

Disgraceful actions from the club.

I see Johnny murtagh denying it on twitter to cunningham

Seen that, but Clarkes brother has just confirmed it on twitter. I think I'll take his brothers word over an ex Cross player.

Unbelievable stuff.... something from the dark ages.

They probably just end up shooting him will they???
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 11, 2022, 09:10:57 PM
Cross looked good in that last 15/20 minutes but prior to that they had looked like a beaten team. They are good going forward but defensively very suspect. The turning of the game was the Silverbridge player getting very harshly sin binned after 40 minutes. Cross dominated after that and turned around a 5 point deficit and were deserving winners in the end. The Clarke situation is bizarre, the fact that they took him back into the fold only to deselect him a few days before the championship. What happens next will be interesting but it can't be great for team morale.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 11, 2022, 09:49:31 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on September 11, 2022, 09:10:57 PM
Cross looked good in that last 15/20 minutes but prior to that they had looked like a beaten team. They are good going forward but defensively very suspect. The turning of the game was the Silverbridge player getting very harshly sin binned after 40 minutes. Cross dominated after that and turned around a 5 point deficit and were deserving winners in the end. The Clarke situation is bizarre, the fact that they took him back into the fold only to deselect him a few days before the championship. What happens next will be interesting but it can't be great for team morale.
A lot of disharmony behind the scenes in Cross it would appear.
Cross, Killeavy and Mullaghbawn should ease into the semi finals... Ballymacnab and Maghery tie of the round.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 5times5times on September 12, 2022, 01:52:43 AM
Will Cross's classic a**hole tactics affect Clarkes chances of playing with Armagh this year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 12, 2022, 08:06:38 AM
Someone needs to chill it out. Half truths and innuendo.....

Jamie is back playing football but Jamie is not playing the football he was playing 3-4 years ago. He is training mostly with Newry, which is understandable as they are paying him, and not as much for Cross. The players training and being there all the time are getting playing.

As for Jamie playing for Armagh next year, that will be up to Geezer and whatever happens at Cross won't be the difference. If Jamie is good enough on form, and able to commit to the training, for either Cross or Armagh then he will play.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: WT4E on September 12, 2022, 09:19:48 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 12, 2022, 08:06:38 AM
Someone needs to chill it out. Half truths and innuendo.....

Jamie is back playing football but Jamie is not playing the football he was playing 3-4 years ago. He is training mostly with Newry, which is understandable as they are paying him, and not as much for Cross. The players training and being there all the time are getting playing.

As for Jamie playing for Armagh next year, that will be up to Geezer and whatever happens at Cross won't be the difference. If Jamie is good enough on form, and able to commit to the training, for either Cross or Armagh then he will play.

This tweet is from a Crossmaglen member and former player:

QuoteRumour has it @crossrangers committee have banned Jamie Clarke for playing soccer. He won't tog out this weekend against Silverbridge live on
@TG4
. If this is true, what an absolute disgrace. In 2022....this is what is happening? #armaghgaa #tg4

Would see past it if it was coming from Silverbridge or other club. No smoke without fire!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on September 12, 2022, 09:38:24 AM
Hardly a solid argument there tbh, brokencrossbar is a former player and club member (I'm assuming) and he is saying its half truths/innuendo, so by your reasoning they are both right?

For a fella that can take football or leave it, I doubt he would be hanging about the team if he was told or made aware he would not be playing at all. 
To double down on what brokencrossbar is saying also, he hasn't really played in a few years and he is into his 30's, so no doubt he is not as sharp as he once was, and cross have younger fella's coming through that are up to the task also, so its not like they are reliant on him as their sole scoring threat. 

In terms of going back to Armagh, I would say that ship has sailed.  Armagh have a young capable forward line, Clarke coming back would be no real benefit, bar training matches. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 12, 2022, 09:39:21 AM
Quote from: WT4E on September 12, 2022, 09:19:48 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 12, 2022, 08:06:38 AM
Someone needs to chill it out. Half truths and innuendo.....

Jamie is back playing football but Jamie is not playing the football he was playing 3-4 years ago. He is training mostly with Newry, which is understandable as they are paying him, and not as much for Cross. The players training and being there all the time are getting playing.

As for Jamie playing for Armagh next year, that will be up to Geezer and whatever happens at Cross won't be the difference. If Jamie is good enough on form, and able to commit to the training, for either Cross or Armagh then he will play.

This tweet is from a Crossmaglen member and former player:

QuoteRumour has it @crossrangers committee have banned Jamie Clarke for playing soccer. He won't tog out this weekend against Silverbridge live on
@TG4
. If this is true, what an absolute disgrace. In 2022....this is what is happening? #armaghgaa #tg4

Would see past it if it was coming from Silverbridge or other club. No smoke without fire!

And as a former player of greater longevity to that tweeter, who also has direct familial links to the current squad i would state it is half truth and innuendo
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: WT4E on September 12, 2022, 09:52:49 AM
OK take your word for it.

Cunningham must be a strange one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: toby47 on September 12, 2022, 12:41:49 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 12, 2022, 09:52:49 AM
OK take your word for it.

Cunningham must be a strange one.

Strange one taking to twitter, what was he hoping to gain?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 12, 2022, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: toby47 on September 12, 2022, 12:41:49 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 12, 2022, 09:52:49 AM
OK take your word for it.

Cunningham must be a strange one.

Strange one taking to twitter, what was he hoping to gain?

Who knows,  he's in the States for years now and is a good lad. Very active in social media as that's his work,  PR & marketing....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: quit yo jibbajabba on September 12, 2022, 01:04:13 PM
Having had a nosy i think it was his birthday also. Hes maybe posted having had a few *hic*
Weve all been there. Other than forgettin to hit Send one night i deffo wouldnt be on here and would have half of a largish area in South Derry after me 😂😂
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 12, 2022, 01:05:35 PM
Wtf does he have to achieve by tweeting this bollox whether it's true or not?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nrico2006 on September 13, 2022, 09:59:51 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 12, 2022, 01:05:35 PM
Wtf does he have to achieve by tweeting this bollox whether it's true or not?

He is probably simply trying to let people know the situation, which most people would want to know given how backward a decision it is, especially coming from a big club regarding a big player.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 13, 2022, 10:06:57 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 13, 2022, 09:59:51 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 12, 2022, 01:05:35 PM
Wtf does he have to achieve by tweeting this bollox whether it's true or not?

He is probably simply trying to let people know the situation, which most people would want to know given how backward a decision it is, especially coming from a big club regarding a big player.
Aye I'm sure his former teammates really appreciate the gesture!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: nrico2006 on September 13, 2022, 01:27:35 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 13, 2022, 10:06:57 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on September 13, 2022, 09:59:51 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 12, 2022, 01:05:35 PM
Wtf does he have to achieve by tweeting this bollox whether it's true or not?

He is probably simply trying to let people know the situation, which most people would want to know given how backward a decision it is, especially coming from a big club regarding a big player.
Aye I'm sure his former teammates really appreciate the gesture!

If its true then I am sure Jamie Clarke probably does appreciate it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: WT4E on September 13, 2022, 08:05:46 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 12, 2022, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: toby47 on September 12, 2022, 12:41:49 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 12, 2022, 09:52:49 AM
OK take your word for it.

Cunningham must be a strange one.

Strange one taking to twitter, what was he hoping to gain?

Who knows,  he's in the States for years now and is a good lad. Very active in social media as that's his work,  PR & marketing....

Well well well what have we here

Jamie Clarke fell foul of Crossmaglen Rangers' seven-day rule by playing for Newry City last Tuesday night and it is understood that is why he played no part in Crossmaglen's dramatic comeback win over Silverbridge Harps in the Armagh Senior Football Championship on Sunday. Cross Rangers

IRISH NEWS
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on September 30, 2022, 03:37:33 AM
Seen this on the Armagh forum so thought I'd copy it over here to see if others think it's a good idea or not. Realistically there probably isn't an appetite to make it happen in Armagh, but it would be an interesting championship for sure.

Long post here, so please bear with me.
As has been discussed in many counties over the years, why don't we adopt the Kerry system of 'regional' teams for a county championship? Individual clubs would still compete in their club championships, but a new system would mean that every player in the county could aspire to competing for the county championship every year.

Let's look at how this might look in Armagh (I'll be using the 2022 leagues to illustrate the point).

First of all, we'd have 8 'Senior' clubs - These 8 would compete in the senior 'county' championship against 'regional' teams as well as competing in the senior 'club' championship too. The winner of the 'county' championship would represent us in Ulster , unless a regional team wins it. If that was the cse then the winner of the senior club championship would go forward into Ulster.
Below Senior we'd then have intermediate, Junior A, B, C, D. This would increase our competitiveness at Ulster club level also.

The leagues and 'club' championships would look like this;

SENIOR
Crossmaglen
Clann Eireann
Dromintee
Killeavy
Armagh Harps
Maghery
Madden
Granemore

INTERMEDIATE
Ballymacnab
Cullyhanna
Silverbridge
Mullabawn
Pearse Og
Sarsfields
Clan na Gael
Grange

JUNIOR A
Shane O'Neill's
Carrickcruppen
Tullysaran
St Peter's
St Paul's
Wolfe Tones
Annaghmore
Whitecross

JUNIOR B
Belleek
Culloville
Ballyhegan
Clonmore
Tir na nog
Forkhill
Collegeland
Keady
Cross II

JUNIOR C
Derrynoose
Middletown
Eire Og
Newtownhamilton
Dorsey
Lissummon

Junior D
Killeavy II
Corrinshego
An Port Mor
O'Hanlon's
Clady
Mullabrack

Beyond this we'd then have our 'county' championship.

REGIONS - COUNTY CHAMPIONSHIP (clubs in BLOCK CAPITALS would compete on their own in the county championship unless relegated - when relegated they'd join their regional side the following season - for example, Dromintee next year would fall back into their regional side, Ballymacnab would be going up to competing on their own)

1. SOUTH ARMAGH EAST (cruppen, shanes, corrinshego, whitecross, lissummon, o'hanlons, belleek) KILLEAVY, DROMINTEE

2. SOUTH ARMAGH WEST (Newtownhamilton, Dorsey, Silverbridge, Cullyhanna, Cullaville, Mullabawn, Forkhill) CROSSMAGLEN

3. MID ARMAGH WEST (Clady, Ballymacnab, Keady, Derrynoose, Middletown) MADDEN, GRANEMORE

4. MID ARMAGH CENTRAL (Pearse Og, An Port Mor, Tullysaran, Grange, Mullabrack) HARPS

5. NORTH ARMAGH COUNTRY (Annaghmore, Clonmore, Collegeland, Wolfe Tones, Sarsfields, Ballyhegan) MAGHERY

6. NORTH ARMAGH TOWN (St Peter's, St Paul's, Clan na Gael, Tir na nog, Eire Og) CLANN EIREANN

This is just a rough example of how it might work, I'm sure there are better minds than mine who could refine this even further. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 30, 2022, 03:16:09 PM
I actually think the Kerry system is flawed.
Yes it benefits Kerry clubs no end, has been in place for years and regularly sees their clubs unfairly  dominate at provincial and all Ireland level, but I don't think it would work in Armagh if replicated exactly. I don't think too many clubs would fancy dropping a grade. Shane's for example have been promoted to senior football this year but under this set up they've just been demoted to Junior.

There are 3 grades at senior level and each county should grade their clubs accordingly in as fair a way as possible. I think the current set up in Armagh is fine and wouldn't really change anything. I would support junior and intermediate clubs joining together to form regional sides, perhaps they could all play off against each other with the top team entering the SFC in a preliminary round, but the league and championship set up doesn't need to change to accommodate this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: yellowcard on September 30, 2022, 09:59:29 PM
In recent years Armagh county board have done a very good job with fixtures in a well structured format. All the games are competitive and club players get regular games every week irrespective of the county side. The return to a straight knock out format has also greatly helped the quality and championship feel of fixtures. Although the proposal is well thought out I don't really see the appetite for another competition in an already squeezed fixture list.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ash Smoker on October 04, 2022, 11:28:43 AM
Quote from: 5times5times on September 11, 2022, 06:52:39 PM
Quote from: WT4E on September 11, 2022, 11:16:29 AM
Right ould spat goin on on twitter about Cross. Seems to coming from Aaron cunnigham. What's goin on?

Crossmaglen committee informed Cross management, that Clarke should be barred from playing, while being on Newry City soccer books.

Disgraceful actions from the club.
Is there any truth to this?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: sensethetone on October 04, 2022, 12:09:47 PM
What's Maghery's chances on Friday night?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 04, 2022, 01:13:13 PM
Quote from: sensethetone on October 04, 2022, 12:09:47 PM
What's Maghery's chances on Friday night?
Strong chances.  Have beaten us twice in the league this year so will likely be slight favourites after getting through 2 harder rounds
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Redhand Santa on October 04, 2022, 01:22:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 04, 2022, 01:13:13 PM
Quote from: sensethetone on October 04, 2022, 12:09:47 PM
What's Maghery's chances on Friday night?
Strong chances.  Have beaten us twice in the league this year so will likely be slight favourites after getting through 2 harder rounds

Slight favourites!? They're 4/1 with the bookies.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 04, 2022, 01:30:55 PM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on October 04, 2022, 01:22:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 04, 2022, 01:13:13 PM
Quote from: sensethetone on October 04, 2022, 12:09:47 PM
What's Maghery's chances on Friday night?
Strong chances.  Have beaten us twice in the league this year so will likely be slight favourites after getting through 2 harder rounds

Slight favourites!? They're 4/1 with the bookies.

That's just on name only. Results for the year are in the favour
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Redhand Santa on October 10, 2022, 11:31:11 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 04, 2022, 01:30:55 PM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on October 04, 2022, 01:22:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 04, 2022, 01:13:13 PM
Quote from: sensethetone on October 04, 2022, 12:09:47 PM
What's Maghery's chances on Friday night?
Strong chances.  Have beaten us twice in the league this year so will likely be slight favourites after getting through 2 harder rounds

Slight favourites!? They're 4/1 with the bookies.

That's just on name only. Results for the year are in the favour

I suppose Granemore will be favourites in the final as well?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 10, 2022, 11:52:12 AM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on October 10, 2022, 11:31:11 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 04, 2022, 01:30:55 PM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on October 04, 2022, 01:22:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 04, 2022, 01:13:13 PM
Quote from: sensethetone on October 04, 2022, 12:09:47 PM
What's Maghery's chances on Friday night?
Strong chances.  Have beaten us twice in the league this year so will likely be slight favourites after getting through 2 harder rounds

Slight favourites!? They're 4/1 with the bookies.

That's just on name only. Results for the year are in the favour

I suppose Granemore will be favourites in the final as well?
;D Cross will be red hot favourites. Don't think anyone would have fancied Granemore at the start of the year but that's the beauty of knock out football and fair play to them for getting to the final. They'll need a miracle to win though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 10, 2022, 12:01:44 PM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on October 10, 2022, 11:31:11 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 04, 2022, 01:30:55 PM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on October 04, 2022, 01:22:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 04, 2022, 01:13:13 PM
Quote from: sensethetone on October 04, 2022, 12:09:47 PM
What's Maghery's chances on Friday night?
Strong chances.  Have beaten us twice in the league this year so will likely be slight favourites after getting through 2 harder rounds

Slight favourites!? They're 4/1 with the bookies.

That's just on name only. Results for the year are in the favour

I suppose Granemore will be favourites in the final as well?

BCB will need all his legal skills to argue this one.
Strange goals were a feature of the semi finals, perhaps Granemore can get one of these.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 10, 2022, 02:19:14 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 10, 2022, 12:01:44 PM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on October 10, 2022, 11:31:11 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 04, 2022, 01:30:55 PM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on October 04, 2022, 01:22:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 04, 2022, 01:13:13 PM
Quote from: sensethetone on October 04, 2022, 12:09:47 PM
What's Maghery's chances on Friday night?
Strong chances.  Have beaten us twice in the league this year so will likely be slight favourites after getting through 2 harder rounds

Slight favourites!? They're 4/1 with the bookies.

That's just on name only. Results for the year are in the favour

I suppose Granemore will be favourites in the final as well?

BCB will need all his legal skills to argue this one.
Strange goals were a feature of the semi finals, perhaps Granemore can get one of these.

Even I couldn't make any argument here!

Bizarre goals is right from the weekend. Was pleasantly surprised by us but really taken aback by how poor Maghery were. Sure enough the early goal knocked them back but they had nothing in the tank. Also thought it was quite sad seeing James Lavery coming on,  a great stalwart for them for years but clearly well out of shape due to non involvement this year. The heart may be there but the body wasn't.

Granemore in real bonus territory and nothing to lose. Will be interesting to say the least how the final works outs
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Highland Paddy on October 13, 2022, 07:38:08 PM
Have Crossmaglen ever had an outside manager?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pbat on October 13, 2022, 08:15:22 PM
Gareth O Neill   8)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 13, 2022, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: Highland Paddy on October 13, 2022, 07:38:08 PM
Have Crossmaglen ever had an outside manager?

Nope....despite what smart hole pbat says!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Highland Paddy on October 14, 2022, 09:06:37 AM
To never have had an outside manager is serious going fellas
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 14, 2022, 09:49:41 AM
Quote from: Highland Paddy on October 14, 2022, 09:06:37 AM
To never have had an outside manager is serious going fellas

Outside fitness coaches but never a manager. Not being smart but when you have lads who have won championships left, right and centre for years there's plenty of choice. A big thing is that the senior players have historically coached at underage as well so that has helped.

Of the team that played in 1996 to 2000 for instance 10-11 regular starters and 4/5 of the subs have all been involved in coaching underage or senior. 8-9 have been involved in the senior management.  The next 'group' would be the Kernan's team that won the minors in 2001 and then were the bedrock of the senior team for years. Off the top of my head 5/6 are currently involved in coaching in the club at a variety of levels. Obviously a few are still playing as well and will become heavily involved as they step away. The club is very good at re-investing so to speak.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 14, 2022, 11:09:40 AM
Quote from: Highland Paddy on October 14, 2022, 09:06:37 AM
To never have had an outside manager is serious going fellas
They prefer outside players  ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: pbat on October 14, 2022, 11:15:04 AM
Like the UN.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 14, 2022, 11:21:48 AM
Quote from: general_lee on October 14, 2022, 11:09:40 AM
Quote from: Highland Paddy on October 14, 2022, 09:06:37 AM
To never have had an outside manager is serious going fellas
They prefer outside players  ;)

Not biting!!!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2022, 07:51:41 PM
Another one in the bag,  nice after a 2 year 'famine'!  Was pressure on that game today and the players and management came out with great credit. Built well game on game so hopefully that continues in Ulster. Will need to improve again though
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Brick Tamlin on October 23, 2022, 10:03:28 PM
Never got out of 2nd gear. Totally untested and won at a canter. Doesn't really tell you anything about this group until they have serious questions asked of them. They'd harder league games I'd suspect. Let's be honest, granemore had a handy draw and found themselves in a final where they never really had a chance. To try and convince anyone otherwise Is tripe.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 24, 2022, 10:04:17 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on October 23, 2022, 10:03:28 PM
Never got out of 2nd gear. Totally untested and won at a canter. Doesn't really tell you anything about this group until they have serious questions asked of them. They'd harder league games I'd suspect. Let's be honest, granemore had a handy draw and found themselves in a final where they never really had a chance. To try and convince anyone otherwise Is tripe.

Agreed that they were not really tested. The pressure was internal more than external. We were in a no win situation. Maybe not the best preparation for Ballybay but it's all there is
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Brick Tamlin on October 24, 2022, 10:19:35 AM
Probably says more about the teams in Armagh over the years than a reflection of Crossmaglen. Suppose they can only beat whats in front of them. Were they even tested this year?
Clann Eireann gave up the crown easily, Maghery seem to be a beaten docket and on the way down and that Ballymacnab team isnt getting any younger.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 24, 2022, 10:28:25 AM
Quote from: Brick Tamlin on October 24, 2022, 10:19:35 AM
Probably says more about the teams in Armagh over the years than a reflection of Crossmaglen. Suppose they can only beat whats in front of them. Were they even tested this year?
Clann Eireann gave up the crown easily, Maghery seem to be a beaten docket and on the way down and that Ballymacnab team isnt getting any younger.

Hard to tell really. Silverbridge gave it a fair rattle but didn't have the finish in them. Clann Eireann have fallen off the face of the plant and may drift down to Intermediate unless they get things going again. Killeavey have talent but are notorious when it comes to championship for leaving all behind them. Maghery and Ballymacnab have a lot on their legs. Clans are a doing team and could be a challenger over the next few years. Hard to tell really. Like everything else the reality is we are the best in the county and have improved every game this year. I suspect that we have the players there already and players coming through to be dominant over the next 4/5 years within the county. I think we will hit the half ton of titles sooner rather than later
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 24, 2022, 10:44:30 AM
Clann Éireann won't be in intermediate anytime soon, give your head a wobble! Agree on Killeavy, a bit like the Harps - two league teams, although at least Harps crop have a championship medal to show. I think Ballymacnab have maybe one more assault left in them, Maghery are as good as gone after that emphatic semi final exit to Cross. I think Mullaghbawn will be another Silverbridge, good but not good enough, Clans have a good team in the making but probably a year or two away to be considered proper contenders. Cross are the standard bearers and even in "famine" were regularly challenging, I think they've a fairly good chance of over-coming Ballybay, arguably the best forward line in Ulster club football at the minute.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 24, 2022, 11:16:52 AM
Maybe your right about CE, it's a bit mad how far they have dropped so quickly. I think in terms of Ulster this year it will be tough as if we get over Ballybay we're are into Kilcoo waiting in the long grass. They have a few weeks to prep themselves and will not want to give up their title easily. Momentum is good though so if we get a decent performance and win against Ballybay we should have nothing to fear
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 24, 2022, 11:37:24 AM
Cross are putting up big scores, I expect them to carry that threat into Ulster. Aside from the Silverbridge game they haven't conceded much. Like you say momentum is good, especially when you're scoring heavily and conceding very little. Cross looked fit yesterday and even when the game was in the final minutes they still wanted to turn the screw. There's a hunger and energy there that wasn't there last year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 24, 2022, 11:55:32 AM
I got a sense there was a certain fragility with Rangers at the start of the Championship, which was maybe a hangover from the defeats of the last two years, and that was evidenced in the first match against Silverbridge, when I felt there were a few things went for Cross in the last quarter which swung a very tight game in their favour. They then made very hard work of overcoming Dromintee - albeit with a man down - but thereafter though, they seemed to grow in belief and swept Maghery aside in the semi-final which I had felt was going to be their biggest hurdle. The final was then a formality.

Rangers undoubtedly have the best team and squad in the County and the victory yesterday will add to the confidence and self belief. I'll be very interested to see how they go in Ulster, although I feel that a provincial title might be beyond them.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Truth hurts on October 24, 2022, 02:10:09 PM
apart from Crossmaglen I would safely say they are 5 to 6 better clubs teams in Down than in Armagh, hopefully, we can start getting the buy in like Armagh county get to make us compete again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on October 24, 2022, 02:37:42 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 24, 2022, 02:10:09 PM
apart from Crossmaglen I would safely say they are 5 to 6 better clubs teams in Down than in Armagh, hopefully, we can start getting the buy in like Armagh county get to make us compete again.

It's entirely possible. I honestly feel the standard of club football in our County is terrible.

It actually contrasts with the 1996 - 2006 period, when the Senior Championship in Armagh was actually very strong - Mullaghbawn, Clan na Gael, Pearse Og and Dromintee in particular, all had sides capable of winning Ulster Clubs, but couldn't get out of Armagh due to the exceptional nature and dominance of that great Rangers team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Truth hurts on October 24, 2022, 02:49:31 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on October 24, 2022, 02:37:42 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 24, 2022, 02:10:09 PM
apart from Crossmaglen I would safely say they are 5 to 6 better clubs teams in Down than in Armagh, hopefully, we can start getting the buy in like Armagh county get to make us compete again.

It's entirely possible. I honestly feel the standard of club football in our County is terrible.

It actually contrasts with the 1996 - 2006 period, when the Senior Championship in Armagh was actually very strong - Mullaghbawn, Clan na Gael, Pearse Og and Dromintee in particular, all had sides capable of winning Ulster Clubs, but couldn't get out of Armagh due to the exceptional nature and dominance of that great Rangers team.

Apart from Cross and Maghery I would say a lot of teams would struggle to stay in Division 1 in Down. This year Ballyholland and Downpatrick were relegated and I would put them ahead of the likes of Granemore, the Nab and Clann Eireann , Killeavy etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 24, 2022, 02:58:45 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on October 24, 2022, 11:55:32 AM
I got a sense there was a certain fragility with Rangers at the start of the Championship, which was maybe a hangover from the defeats of the last two years, and that was evidenced in the first match against Silverbridge, when I felt there were a few things went for Cross in the last quarter which swung a very tight game in their favour. They then made very hard work of overcoming Dromintee - albeit with a man down - but thereafter though, they seemed to grow in belief and swept Maghery aside in the semi-final which I had felt was going to be their biggest hurdle. The final was then a formality.

Rangers undoubtedly have the best team and squad in the County and the victory yesterday will add to the confidence and self belief. I'll be very interested to see how they go in Ulster, although I feel that a provincial title might be beyond them.   

In the first two games Cross' only played in fits and starts and did not engender confidence even among Cross' football people or me. But from the ball was thrown in against Maghery they played with much more enthusiasm and confidence and having disposed of Maghery then the final was a foregone conclusion, as you say. While having a hard working defence these teams did not have a great attack and so there remains a big question mark if Cross' come up against a time that can score like themselves.

Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on October 24, 2022, 02:37:42 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 24, 2022, 02:10:09 PM
apart from Crossmaglen I would safely say they are 5 to 6 better clubs teams in Down than in Armagh, hopefully, we can start getting the buy in like Armagh county get to make us compete again.

It's entirely possible. I honestly feel the standard of club football in our County is terrible.

It actually contrasts with the 1996 - 2006 period, when the Senior Championship in Armagh was actually very strong - Mullaghbawn, Clan na Gael, Pearse Og and Dromintee in particular, all had sides capable of winning Ulster Clubs, but couldn't get out of Armagh due to the exceptional nature and dominance of that great Rangers team.

The likes of Dromintee give Cross' a harder game than most of other ones they had. But in the 2010-2012 period Cross' had less opposition in Armagh, like the final against Ballymacnab.
There was a good crowd at the double bill yesterday, there is good interest in Armagh if the football was better.

let's hope the younger crowd in Rangers want an Ulster medal like their Da or Uncle and perhaps Jamie and Aaron want one last one. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 24, 2022, 03:01:50 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 24, 2022, 02:49:31 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on October 24, 2022, 02:37:42 PM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 24, 2022, 02:10:09 PM
apart from Crossmaglen I would safely say they are 5 to 6 better clubs teams in Down than in Armagh, hopefully, we can start getting the buy in like Armagh county get to make us compete again.

It's entirely possible. I honestly feel the standard of club football in our County is terrible.

It actually contrasts with the 1996 - 2006 period, when the Senior Championship in Armagh was actually very strong - Mullaghbawn, Clan na Gael, Pearse Og and Dromintee in particular, all had sides capable of winning Ulster Clubs, but couldn't get out of Armagh due to the exceptional nature and dominance of that great Rangers team.

Apart from Cross and Maghery I would say a lot of teams would struggle to stay in Division 1 in Down. This year Ballyholland and Downpatrick were relegated and I would put them ahead of the likes of Granemore, the Nab and Clann Eireann , Killeavy etc
In the last ten years both Armagh and Down have had 7 different clubs reach a county final. Armagh have had 4 different winners, Down have had 2. I think clubs in Down now have the same mental block playing Kilcoo that clubs in Armagh had in the late 90s/00s when it came to playing Cross. I'd say there's a fairly similar standard outside of Cross, Kilcoo and Burren.

Have played against and watched plenty of Down Division 1 teams over recent years. You are way off the mark if you think Downpatrick or Ballyholland are better than Clann Éireann, Killeavy or Ballymacnab. FYI Maghery got relegated from 1A, Killeavy were a kick of a ball away from winning it and Clann Éireann won last years championship!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on October 25, 2022, 04:00:36 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 24, 2022, 11:16:52 AM
Maybe your right about CE, it's a bit mad how far they have dropped so quickly. I think in terms of Ulster this year it will be tough as if we get over Ballybay we're are into Kilcoo waiting in the long grass. They have a few weeks to prep themselves and will not want to give up their title easily. Momentum is good though so if we get a decent performance and win against Ballybay we should have nothing to fear

new manager and missing TK. Also were missing Sean McCarthy for Mullaghbawn game. Thats 2 big losses. Turbo and McCambridge didn't play much football with them this summer either due to being in the States. CE will be grand
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on August 03, 2023, 09:56:17 AM
Championship draw last night; after straight knockout for a few years we are back to the group stages.
Hard to get excited about with three teams from each group progressing. Main talking point is Group A aka the group of death, 2020 winners Maghery as the bottom seeded team. Groups B & C should be fairly easy to call. Group D there could be a few upsets.

Group A
Killeavy
Ballymacnab
Dromintee
Maghery

Group B
Clann Éireann
Granemore
St Peter's
Grange

Group C
Madden
Armagh Harps
Silverbridge
Shane O'Neill's

Group D
Crossmaglen
Mullaghbawn
Clan na Gael
Sarsfield's
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on August 03, 2023, 10:52:09 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 03, 2023, 09:56:17 AM
Championship draw last night; after straight knockout for a few years we are back to the group stages.
Hard to get excited about with three teams from each group progressing. Main talking point is Group A aka the group of death, 2020 winners Maghery as the bottom seeded team. Groups B & C should be fairly easy to call. Group D there could be a few upsets.

Group A
Killeavy
Ballymacnab
Dromintee
Maghery

Group B
Clann Éireann
Granemore
St Peter's
Grange

Group C
Madden
Armagh Harps
Silverbridge
Shane O'Neill's

Group D
Crossmaglen
Mullaghbawn
Clan na Gael
Sarsfield's
Group C Harps, Madden and Silverbridge will all fancy their chances.  The Bridge won 1b and gave Cross a right rattle in last years championship. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: marty34 on August 03, 2023, 10:59:20 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 03, 2023, 09:56:17 AM
Championship draw last night; after straight knockout for a few years we are back to the group stages.
Hard to get excited about with three teams from each group progressing. Main talking point is Group A aka the group of death, 2020 winners Maghery as the bottom seeded team. Groups B & C should be fairly easy to call. Group D there could be a few upsets.

Group A
Killeavy
Ballymacnab
Dromintee
Maghery

Group B
Clann Éireann
Granemore
St Peter's
Grange

Group C
Madden
Armagh Harps
Silverbridge
Shane O'Neill's

Group D
Crossmaglen
Mullaghbawn
Clan na Gael
Sarsfield's

Is Armagh a 16 team Division 1 league?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on August 03, 2023, 11:49:07 AM
Quote from: marty34 on August 03, 2023, 10:59:20 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 03, 2023, 09:56:17 AM
Championship draw last night; after straight knockout for a few years we are back to the group stages.
Hard to get excited about with three teams from each group progressing. Main talking point is Group A aka the group of death, 2020 winners Maghery as the bottom seeded team. Groups B & C should be fairly easy to call. Group D there could be a few upsets.

Group A
Killeavy
Ballymacnab
Dromintee
Maghery

Group B
Clann Éireann
Granemore
St Peter's
Grange

Group C
Madden
Armagh Harps
Silverbridge
Shane O'Neill's

Group D
Crossmaglen
Mullaghbawn
Clan na Gael
Sarsfield's

Is Armagh a 16 team Division 1 league?
1A & 1B 8 teams in each two up 2 down. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: marty34 on August 03, 2023, 12:03:46 PM
Quote from: statto on August 03, 2023, 11:49:07 AM
Quote from: marty34 on August 03, 2023, 10:59:20 AM
Quote from: general_lee on August 03, 2023, 09:56:17 AM
Championship draw last night; after straight knockout for a few years we are back to the group stages.
Hard to get excited about with three teams from each group progressing. Main talking point is Group A aka the group of death, 2020 winners Maghery as the bottom seeded team. Groups B & C should be fairly easy to call. Group D there could be a few upsets.

Group A
Killeavy
Ballymacnab
Dromintee
Maghery

Group B
Clann Éireann
Granemore
St Peter's
Grange

Group C
Madden
Armagh Harps
Silverbridge
Shane O'Neill's

Group D
Crossmaglen
Mullaghbawn
Clan na Gael
Sarsfield's

Is Armagh a 16 team Division 1 league?
1A & 1B 8 teams in each two up 2 down.

Ok, thanks.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on September 11, 2023, 12:56:15 PM
Some really good ties in Senior championship with the standout being St Pauls v Culloville in intermediate.  Tir Na Nog, Cullyhanna and Pearse Og will be fancied to come through their games. 

Kileavey v Clan NaGael- should be an interesting game.  I haven't saw Kileavey this year, but with Tommy Coleman in charge and their scores to date they seem to be playing a more expansive game.  Clans should have won this game last year, but they will need Stefan Campbell to bring a big performance if they are to win. 

Madden v Ballymacnab- think the nab will shade this one, their forward line seems to be moving well its probably now or never for the nab giving age profile of some of their better players. 

Clann Eireann v Silverbridge- Silverbridge been scoring plenty of goals and after losing first day out have been very impressive.  Still think Clann Eireann are a better balanced team and will come through here. 

Cross v armagh harps - after seeing Harps yesterday can only see one winner wasn't impressed with them at all and they have had a poor championship to date.  Cross have the indian sign over them for quite some time and dont see that changing. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 14, 2023, 02:57:44 PM
Killeavy v Clan na Gael
Fancy the Lurgan men for this one, they'll be out to exact revenge for last year. If Killeavy can keep McPartlan quiet that's half the battle, easier said than done though.

Madden v Ballymacnab
Think this one will be really close, just think Ballymacnab have a more dangerous forward unit. For a well established Div1A team, Madden haven't really made much inroads at championship level.

Clann Eireann  v Silverbridge
Don't think there'll be any bow and arrow celebrations in this one. CE will snuff out the Bridge attack and will out score them at the other end.

Cross v Harps
I don't think Harps have a mission here, any team that ships a 15pt defeat at home can't be considered contenders.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 02, 2023, 11:47:45 AM
It's getting harder to call.

Clann Eireann v Clan Na Gael
CE stronger overall, and I think will give (spoiler alert) Cross a tougher game in the final.

Madden v XMG
Cross to nick it in extra time. Expect at least one red card dished out to Cross.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: 5times5times on October 02, 2023, 12:43:24 PM
https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/10/01/news/conleith_gilligan_joins_armagh_backroom_team-3661066/

Suprised this hasnt been mentioned yet.. What do Armagh folk think of the news?

I know he was very well thought of during his time with Kilcoo..
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on October 02, 2023, 01:26:17 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on October 02, 2023, 12:43:24 PMhttps://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/10/01/news/conleith_gilligan_joins_armagh_backroom_team-3661066/

Suprised this hasnt been mentioned yet.. What do Armagh folk think of the news?

I know he was very well thought of during his time with Kilcoo..

Do four managers work well together?
Can these four work well together?

I think we're getting the best of both worlds. Build on the last couple of years plus an injection of fresh ideas.

Either way, good for Gilligan's CV.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on October 02, 2023, 11:35:44 PM
Quote from: Orior on October 02, 2023, 01:26:17 PM
Quote from: 5times5times on October 02, 2023, 12:43:24 PMhttps://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/10/01/news/conleith_gilligan_joins_armagh_backroom_team-3661066/

Suprised this hasnt been mentioned yet.. What do Armagh folk think of the news?

I know he was very well thought of during his time with Kilcoo..

Do four managers work well together?
Can these four work well together?

I think we're getting the best of both worlds. Build on the last couple of years plus an injection of fresh ideas.

Either way, good for Gilligan's CV.
Is McKeever staying?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: shawshank on October 23, 2023, 04:24:18 PM
As Aaron Kernan picks up his 18th senior championship medal, it further confirms how crap the senior clubs in Armagh are that they annually role over. What is it Cross are doing the rest of you are not apart from living rent free in your heads.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on October 23, 2023, 04:44:19 PM
Quote from: shawshank on October 23, 2023, 04:24:18 PMAs Aaron Kernan picks up his 18th senior championship medal, it further confirms how crap the senior clubs in Armagh are that they annually role over. What is it Cross are doing the rest of you are not apart from living rent free in your heads.
I wouldn't say that they annually role over.  Harps could easily have beat Cross at quarter final stage.  The last two years Granemore made first ever final and with all due respect probably be a lifetime before they are back again.  Clan NaGael have done some great work at underage including 2 minors in a row, but this final was probably a couple of years too soon for them.  Cross lost their previous two finals to Maghery and Clann Eireann, so the narrative that every team roles over to them I don't think is true. 

You could argue in Tyrone/Derry/Down that teams have rolled over against Errigal, Glen and Kilcoo over the last number of years as much as they have in Armagh.   
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 23, 2023, 07:52:39 PM
Quote from: shawshank on October 23, 2023, 04:24:18 PMAs Aaron Kernan picks up his 18th senior championship medal, it further confirms how crap the senior clubs in Armagh are that they annually role over. What is it Cross are doing the rest of you are not apart from living rent free in your heads.
Just to point out Crossmaglen as a club have won twice as many All Ireland club titles as your county has combined. Wtf were the Derry clubs doing for those dozen or so Ulsters & half dozen AIs?

What people outside Armagh fail to realise is that Cross are perennially strong. They're always a contender for the Armagh championship, even in their so called "leaner" years. Their underage teams are alway in the top grade and always in contention for honours. You'll never see Cross dropping to intermediate like Ballinderry have. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 23, 2023, 08:03:04 PM
Quote from: statto on October 23, 2023, 04:44:19 PM
Quote from: shawshank on October 23, 2023, 04:24:18 PMAs Aaron Kernan picks up his 18th senior championship medal, it further confirms how crap the senior clubs in Armagh are that they annually role over. What is it Cross are doing the rest of you are not apart from living rent free in your heads.
You could argue in Tyrone/Derry/Down that teams have rolled over against Errigal, Glen and Kilcoo over the last number of years as much as they have in Armagh.   
The last ten finals in Armagh there have been 4 different winners.

In Derry, where this poster is from, the last ten finals have had... 4 different winners.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2023, 08:35:47 PM
It's the same year on year. Armagh must be crap,  yadda yadda. Is it ever considered that we have simply a club that produces outstanding footballers year on year?  Is it recognised that before we won in 1996 we actually had 24 county titles?  Probably should have won a few Ulster's but the mindset for Ulster was not there to match the football ability. We have won county titles in every decade apart from the 1950's since the club was formed at the end of the 19th century. I would suspect no other club can match that. We can produce 2-3 year on year who join the senior team and every few years we have players like a Rian, or a Jamie or an Oisin. Next one likely to be Aaron O Neill but he is very young yet,  just turned 18 a few months ago. There's a few others coming up in younger age groups who will add as the years go on.

I remember it being said we'd never replace the Macs, francie, Oisin etc. we did. The next group the same and the same will be said of this group. The team of 1996-2000 now have groups of sons either on the current squad or working through the underage teams. This process will continue. The Kernan's all have sons at underage. Francie has sons and nephews, the McEntees, Oisin....all of them. The cycle will continue
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: shawshank on October 24, 2023, 09:59:49 AM
I main point still stands, what have the other clubs been doing that Cross have dominated, particularly from 96 onward. I fully accepted that there were a number of Cross teams in that period that will stand the test of time. However the there has been a period now where Cross have won and aren't close to being a threat in Ulster.
Someone reference my own county without realising they were making my point. Dungiven, Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Loup, Slaugtneil and now Glen all have won the Ulster club.  Our club championship is a graveyard for any club with ambitions of dominating for years such a Cross. The mentality of club football in Derry is fierce. Please don't tell me if Cross were in Derry they would be winning county titles year in and out. Definitely not.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Truth hurts on October 24, 2023, 10:10:21 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2023, 08:35:47 PMIt's the same year on year. Armagh must be crap,  yadda yadda. Is it ever considered that we have simply a club that produces outstanding footballers year on year?  Is it recognised that before we won in 1996 we actually had 24 county titles?  Probably should have won a few Ulster's but the mindset for Ulster was not there to match the football ability. We have won county titles in every decade apart from the 1950's since the club was formed at the end of the 19th century. I would suspect no other club can match that. We can produce 2-3 year on year who join the senior team and every few years we have players like a Rian, or a Jamie or an Oisin. Next one likely to be Aaron O Neill but he is very young yet,  just turned 18 a few months ago. There's a few others coming up in younger age groups who will add as the years go on.

I remember it being said we'd never replace the Macs, francie, Oisin etc. we did. The next group the same and the same will be said of this group. The team of 1996-2000 now have groups of sons either on the current squad or working through the underage teams. This process will continue. The Kernan's all have sons at underage. Francie has sons and nephews, the McEntees, Oisin....all of them. The cycle will continue

That is a serious tradition. Does Cross have big numbers at underage? The big teams in Down would field two teams at every age level. Bredagh, Burren, and Carryduff, would Cross be similar?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Onthe40 on October 24, 2023, 11:10:30 AM
lets call a spade a spade
How many Div1 clubs in Armagh would challenge for a senior championship in Derry or Tyrone consistently?
Cross and that is it....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 11:18:27 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 23, 2023, 08:35:47 PMIt's the same year on year. Armagh must be crap,  yadda yadda. Is it ever considered that we have simply a club that produces outstanding footballers year on year?  Is it recognised that before we won in 1996 we actually had 24 county titles?  Probably should have won a few Ulster's but the mindset for Ulster was not there to match the football ability. We have won county titles in every decade apart from the 1950's since the club was formed at the end of the 19th century. I would suspect no other club can match that. We can produce 2-3 year on year who join the senior team and every few years we have players like a Rian, or a Jamie or an Oisin. Next one likely to be Aaron O Neill but he is very young yet,  just turned 18 a few months ago. There's a few others coming up in younger age groups who will add as the years go on.

I remember it being said we'd never replace the Macs, francie, Oisin etc. we did. The next group the same and the same will be said of this group. The team of 1996-2000 now have groups of sons either on the current squad or working through the underage teams. This process will continue. The Kernan's all have sons at underage. Francie has sons and nephews, the McEntees, Oisin....all of them. The cycle will continue
Fair play yas feckers! Makes it easier for young lads as well coming in to play beside the likes of AK, Jamie, Rian etc who in turn would have came in to play alongside the likes of Oisin, Francie etc etc. Didn't know that record of a title in every decade bar the 50's some going given what was going on in Cross in the 70s/80s/90s.

Still suspect Clann Eireann would have given Cross a better game than CNG. 2 good teams in Lurgan there who'll be Cross' nearest challengers in the next few years, plenty of good minor teams from all 3 clubs the last few years. Cullyhanna be there or there abouts next year if they keep that team together. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 11:23:11 AM
Quote from: shawshank on October 24, 2023, 09:59:49 AMI main point still stands, what have the other clubs been doing that Cross have dominated, particularly from 96 onward. I fully accepted that there were a number of Cross teams in that period that will stand the test of time. However the there has been a period now where Cross have won and aren't close to being a threat in Ulster.
Someone reference my own county without realising they were making my point. Dungiven, Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Loup, Slaugtneil and now Glen all have won the Ulster club.  Our club championship is a graveyard for any club with ambitions of dominating for years such a Cross. The mentality of club football in Derry is fierce. Please don't tell me if Cross were in Derry they would be winning county titles year in and out. Definitely not.
Glen look like walking through Derry for a few years yet. Did S'Neill not have a fair period of dominance there a few years back as well?

Cross are a different breed. BCB summed it up very well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 24, 2023, 11:56:31 AM
Quote from: shawshank on October 24, 2023, 09:59:49 AMI main point still stands, what have the other clubs been doing that Cross have dominated, particularly from 96 onward. I fully accepted that there were a number of Cross teams in that period that will stand the test of time. However the there has been a period now where Cross have won and aren't close to being a threat in Ulster.
Someone reference my own county without realising they were making my point. Dungiven, Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Loup, Slaugtneil and now Glen all have won the Ulster club.  Our club championship is a graveyard for any club with ambitions of dominating for years such a Cross. The mentality of club football in Derry is fierce. Please don't tell me if Cross were in Derry they would be winning county titles year in and out. Definitely not.
You're complaining about Armagh clubs rolling over when the exact same is now happening in Derry? First Ballinderry, then Slaughtneil and now Glen. Fair enough there was greater competition back in the early/mid 00s but I know enough about Derry football to know it's a shadow of its former self. Magherafelt 5/1?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: naka on October 24, 2023, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: shawshank on October 23, 2023, 04:24:18 PMAs Aaron Kernan picks up his 18th senior championship medal, it further confirms how crap the senior clubs in Armagh are that they annually role over. What is it Cross are doing the rest of you are not apart from living rent free in your heads.
having a catchment area that is second to none
there is simply too may clubs in armagh
lurgan has 4 teams
camlough/ bessbrook  2 teams and am not counting corrinshego)
cross has a committed area with no infiltration from soccer
fair play though to both clanns in lurgan they are investing in youth which will get rewards in the future
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: shawshank on October 24, 2023, 12:22:12 PM
Quote from: general_lee on October 24, 2023, 11:56:31 AM
Quote from: shawshank on October 24, 2023, 09:59:49 AMI main point still stands, what have the other clubs been doing that Cross have dominated, particularly from 96 onward. I fully accepted that there were a number of Cross teams in that period that will stand the test of time. However the there has been a period now where Cross have won and aren't close to being a threat in Ulster.
Someone reference my own county without realising they were making my point. Dungiven, Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Loup, Slaugtneil and now Glen all have won the Ulster club.  Our club championship is a graveyard for any club with ambitions of dominating for years such a Cross. The mentality of club football in Derry is fierce. Please don't tell me if Cross were in Derry they would be winning county titles year in and out. Definitely not.
You're complaining about Armagh clubs rolling over when the exact same is now happening in Derry? First Ballinderry, then Slaughtneil and now Glen. Fair enough there was greater competition back in the early/mid 00s but I know enough about Derry football to know it's a shadow of its former self. Magherafelt 5/1?

Your not getting it. Cross dominant in Armagh for how long. Meanwhile in the same period in Derry six clubs have won Ulster, four in AI Ireland finals, with two additional clubs making the county title breakthrough.
Do you see it.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tyroneman on October 24, 2023, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: naka on October 24, 2023, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: shawshank on October 23, 2023, 04:24:18 PMAs Aaron Kernan picks up his 18th senior championship medal, it further confirms how crap the senior clubs in Armagh are that they annually role over. What is it Cross are doing the rest of you are not apart from living rent free in your heads.
having a catchment area that is second to none
there is simply too may clubs in armagh
lurgan has 4 teams
camlough/ bessbrook  2 teams and am not counting corrinshego)
cross has a committed area with no infiltration from soccer
fair play though to both clanns in lurgan they are investing in youth which will get rewards in the future

Some fair points there.

Cross do great work in bringing players through..just enough to keep supplementing the senior team with real quality. As said before they are usually there or threrabouts in Minor as well.

Having said that....when you think of competing for resources....against other GAA clubs (and numerous soccer clubs)

Lurgan actually has 5 teams:

Clann Eireann
Clan Na Gael
St Peters
St Pauls
Eire Og (you can debate it's in Craigavon, I'd say it's on the border, lol)

and 4 within a few miles of the town

Wolfe Tones
Sarsfields
St Mary's (Antrim)
St Michaels (Down)

Compare that to the catchment Cross have....... and imagine if Lurgan had 1 or 2 superclubs.....


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 24, 2023, 01:53:25 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on October 24, 2023, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: naka on October 24, 2023, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: shawshank on October 23, 2023, 04:24:18 PMAs Aaron Kernan picks up his 18th senior championship medal, it further confirms how crap the senior clubs in Armagh are that they annually role over. What is it Cross are doing the rest of you are not apart from living rent free in your heads.
having a catchment area that is second to none
there is simply too may clubs in armagh
lurgan has 4 teams
camlough/ bessbrook  2 teams and am not counting corrinshego)
cross has a committed area with no infiltration from soccer
fair play though to both clanns in lurgan they are investing in youth which will get rewards in the future

Some fair points there.

Cross do great work in bringing players through..just enough to keep supplementing the senior team with real quality. As said before they are usually there or threrabouts in Minor as well.

Having said that....when you think of competing for resources....against other GAA clubs (and numerous soccer clubs)

Lurgan actually has 5 teams:

Clann Eireann
Clan Na Gael
St Peters
St Pauls
Eire Og (you can debate it's in Craigavon, I'd say it's on the border, lol)

and 4 within a few miles of the town

Wolfe Tones
Sarsfields
St Mary's (Antrim)
St Michaels (Down)

Compare that to the catchment Cross have....... and imagine if Lurgan had 1 or 2 superclubs.....

As I pointed out before, Cross has about the average pick of Armagh clubs. Remember that it too has 3 other clubs in its parish. It may have a better success of getting the attention of that cohort or a lack of alternatives, but it does not have huge numbers, only decent numbers.
Someone posted above about city clubs like Bredagh having 2 underage teams, such places have lots of youth and a big fall off in numbers. Cross, or any place like it, does not have enough people to have 2 underage teams but is able to keep most players all the way through.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on October 24, 2023, 01:58:49 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on October 24, 2023, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: naka on October 24, 2023, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: shawshank on October 23, 2023, 04:24:18 PMAs Aaron Kernan picks up his 18th senior championship medal, it further confirms how crap the senior clubs in Armagh are that they annually role over. What is it Cross are doing the rest of you are not apart from living rent free in your heads.
having a catchment area that is second to none
there is simply too may clubs in armagh
lurgan has 4 teams
camlough/ bessbrook  2 teams and am not counting corrinshego)
cross has a committed area with no infiltration from soccer
fair play though to both clanns in lurgan they are investing in youth which will get rewards in the future

Some fair points there.

Cross do great work in bringing players through..just enough to keep supplementing the senior team with real quality. As said before they are usually there or threrabouts in Minor as well.

Having said that....when you think of competing for resources....against other GAA clubs (and numerous soccer clubs)

Lurgan actually has 5 teams:

Clann Eireann
Clan Na Gael
St Peters
St Pauls
Eire Og (you can debate it's in Craigavon, I'd say it's on the border, lol)

and 4 within a few miles of the town

Wolfe Tones
Sarsfields
St Mary's (Antrim)
St Michaels (Down)

Compare that to the catchment Cross have....... and imagine if Lurgan had 1 or 2 superclubs.....




Eire Og is definitely not a Lurgan club
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on October 24, 2023, 02:01:59 PM

Their pitch is 1.3 miles from Davitt Park  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 02:23:11 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 24, 2023, 01:58:49 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on October 24, 2023, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: naka on October 24, 2023, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: shawshank on October 23, 2023, 04:24:18 PMAs Aaron Kernan picks up his 18th senior championship medal, it further confirms how crap the senior clubs in Armagh are that they annually role over. What is it Cross are doing the rest of you are not apart from living rent free in your heads.
having a catchment area that is second to none
there is simply too may clubs in armagh
lurgan has 4 teams
camlough/ bessbrook  2 teams and am not counting corrinshego)
cross has a committed area with no infiltration from soccer
fair play though to both clanns in lurgan they are investing in youth which will get rewards in the future

Some fair points there.

Cross do great work in bringing players through..just enough to keep supplementing the senior team with real quality. As said before they are usually there or threrabouts in Minor as well.

Having said that....when you think of competing for resources....against other GAA clubs (and numerous soccer clubs)

Lurgan actually has 5 teams:

Clann Eireann
Clan Na Gael
St Peters
St Pauls
Eire Og (you can debate it's in Craigavon, I'd say it's on the border, lol)

and 4 within a few miles of the town

Wolfe Tones
Sarsfields
St Mary's (Antrim)
St Michaels (Down)

Compare that to the catchment Cross have....... and imagine if Lurgan had 1 or 2 superclubs.....




Eire Og is definitely not a Lurgan club
Anything north of Armagh city is by definition a shower of yappy townie huers from Lurgan! ;)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: marty34 on October 24, 2023, 05:46:49 PM
How many clubs are in Armagh city? Pearse Ógs and Harps?

Any more?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 24, 2023, 06:36:10 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 24, 2023, 05:46:49 PMHow many clubs are in Armagh city? Pearse Ógs and Harps?

Any more?
Cuchulainn hurling club.

Madden, Grange, Ballymacnab probably the 3 three nearest football clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 24, 2023, 06:36:59 PM
This argument about our pick is a red herring. We have families who reproduce generation upon generation. The team that started on Sunday for instance the goalkeeper and the cumiskey lads are first cousins on both their mammies side,  their mammies are sisters of John Donaldson. The goalkeepers daddy played on the same underage team as me and is from a long line of his family who played in the club. The Cumiskey's are related to Orin McKeown, my nephew, through their daddy. Orin is also a brother of Paul McKewon county player and AI winning captain. Paul Hughes grandfather played on the 1947 county championship win and his family are absolutely core Cross people. AK we know, the O Neills we know, Cian McConville we know, Jamie Clarke's family have been associated with the club for generations we several of them having played for Armagh in the 1950's. Orin Kieran's transferred on but the Kieran's family are long associated with the club. The Morris family have been involved in the club for generations as well. The only 'outsider' is Chris Crowley,  he married a cousin of mine who's father played in the 1970's and his father played in the 1940/50's and were heavily involved in the establishment of our current grounds in the 1950's.  The point I'm making is that we have tradition throughout and that is our success. The same with clubs like Bsllyhale in the hurling. Generations of families decade on decade. That's what we are.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 24, 2023, 06:57:13 PM
Quote from: shawshank on October 24, 2023, 12:22:12 PM
Quote from: general_lee on October 24, 2023, 11:56:31 AM
Quote from: shawshank on October 24, 2023, 09:59:49 AMI main point still stands, what have the other clubs been doing that Cross have dominated, particularly from 96 onward. I fully accepted that there were a number of Cross teams in that period that will stand the test of time. However the there has been a period now where Cross have won and aren't close to being a threat in Ulster.
Someone reference my own county without realising they were making my point. Dungiven, Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Loup, Slaugtneil and now Glen all have won the Ulster club.  Our club championship is a graveyard for any club with ambitions of dominating for years such a Cross. The mentality of club football in Derry is fierce. Please don't tell me if Cross were in Derry they would be winning county titles year in and out. Definitely not.
You're complaining about Armagh clubs rolling over when the exact same is now happening in Derry? First Ballinderry, then Slaughtneil and now Glen. Fair enough there was greater competition back in the early/mid 00s but I know enough about Derry football to know it's a shadow of its former self. Magherafelt 5/1?

Your not getting it. Cross dominant in Armagh for how long. Meanwhile in the same period in Derry six clubs have won Ulster, four in AI Ireland finals, with two additional clubs making the county title breakthrough.
Do you see it.
Oh I get what you're saying, regardless of whether Cross are winning Ulsters/AIs or not, Armagh clubs remain shite. In a 12 year period 04-15 Cross won 8 Ulster titles, were the Derry/rest of Ulster clubs rolling over as well? 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 08:03:34 PM
Quote from: marty34 on October 24, 2023, 05:46:49 PMHow many clubs are in Armagh city? Pearse Ógs and Harps?

Any more?
That's it for football, hurling and camogie club as well. Few clubs like Grange, the Nab, Mullabrack and Blackwatertown within short driveof the city as well
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 08:06:44 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 24, 2023, 06:36:59 PMThis argument about our pick is a red herring. We have families who reproduce generation upon generation. The team that started on Sunday for instance the goalkeeper and the cumiskey lads are first cousins on both their mammies side,  their mammies are sisters of John Donaldson. The goalkeepers daddy played on the same underage team as me and is from a long line of his family who played in the club. The Cumiskey's are related to Orin McKeown, my nephew, through their daddy. Orin is also a brother of Paul McKewon county player and AI winning captain. Paul Hughes grandfather played on the 1947 county championship win and his family are absolutely core Cross people. AK we know, the O Neills we know, Cian McConville we know, Jamie Clarke's family have been associated with the club for generations we several of them having played for Armagh in the 1950's. Orin Kieran's transferred on but the Kieran's family are long associated with the club. The Morris family have been involved in the club for generations as well. The only 'outsider' is Chris Crowley,  he married a cousin of mine who's father played in the 1970's and his father played in the 1940/50's and were heavily involved in the establishment of our current grounds in the 1950's.  The point I'm making is that we have tradition throughout and that is our success. The same with clubs like Bsllyhale in the hurling. Generations of families decade on decade. That's what we are.
You could probably go to a fair few clubs though and read through the archives and have the same family names going back through the generations. Whatever Cross are doing they do it bloody well. Must clubs will have plenty at under 8's. It's tough going getting a squad of them through to u18's and even tougher to get those u18's to senior. Success breeds success. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: toby47 on October 25, 2023, 10:24:39 AM
Saw very little Armagh club football this year.

Could Jamie Clarke still have a role in the county team? Or has that ship sailed?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on October 25, 2023, 10:38:26 AM
Quote from: toby47 on October 25, 2023, 10:24:39 AMSaw very little Armagh club football this year.

Could Jamie Clarke still have a role in the county team? Or has that ship sailed?
Still be well fit to I reckon be worth taking back just for the penalties lol. But I would say that ship has sailed, must be 35 by now is he? Aaron Kernan was similar I think be could have played county for a few more years at the time as well. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on October 25, 2023, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: toby47 on October 25, 2023, 10:24:39 AMSaw very little Armagh club football this year.

Could Jamie Clarke still have a role in the county team? Or has that ship sailed?
No chance.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on October 25, 2023, 05:47:24 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 02:23:11 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 24, 2023, 01:58:49 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on October 24, 2023, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: naka on October 24, 2023, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: shawshank on October 23, 2023, 04:24:18 PMAs Aaron Kernan picks up his 18th senior championship medal, it further confirms how crap the senior clubs in Armagh are that they annually role over. What is it Cross are doing the rest of you are not apart from living rent free in your heads.
having a catchment area that is second to none
there is simply too may clubs in armagh
lurgan has 4 teams
camlough/ bessbrook  2 teams and am not counting corrinshego)
cross has a committed area with no infiltration from soccer
fair play though to both clanns in lurgan they are investing in youth which will get rewards in the future

Some fair points there.

Cross do great work in bringing players through..just enough to keep supplementing the senior team with real quality. As said before they are usually there or threrabouts in Minor as well.

Having said that....when you think of competing for resources....against other GAA clubs (and numerous soccer clubs)

Lurgan actually has 5 teams:

Clann Eireann
Clan Na Gael
St Peters
St Pauls
Eire Og (you can debate it's in Craigavon, I'd say it's on the border, lol)

and 4 within a few miles of the town

Wolfe Tones
Sarsfields
St Mary's (Antrim)
St Michaels (Down)

Compare that to the catchment Cross have....... and imagine if Lurgan had 1 or 2 superclubs.....




Eire Og is definitely not a Lurgan club
Anything north of Armagh city is by definition a shower of yappy townie huers from Lurgan! ;)

Except for Eire Og haha
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 25, 2023, 06:26:05 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 25, 2023, 05:47:24 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 02:23:11 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 24, 2023, 01:58:49 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on October 24, 2023, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: naka on October 24, 2023, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: shawshank on October 23, 2023, 04:24:18 PMAs Aaron Kernan picks up his 18th senior championship medal, it further confirms how crap the senior clubs in Armagh are that they annually role over. What is it Cross are doing the rest of you are not apart from living rent free in your heads.
having a catchment area that is second to none
there is simply too may clubs in armagh
lurgan has 4 teams
camlough/ bessbrook  2 teams and am not counting corrinshego)
cross has a committed area with no infiltration from soccer
fair play though to both clanns in lurgan they are investing in youth which will get rewards in the future

Some fair points there.

Cross do great work in bringing players through..just enough to keep supplementing the senior team with real quality. As said before they are usually there or threrabouts in Minor as well.

Having said that....when you think of competing for resources....against other GAA clubs (and numerous soccer clubs)

Lurgan actually has 5 teams:

Clann Eireann
Clan Na Gael
St Peters
St Pauls
Eire Og (you can debate it's in Craigavon, I'd say it's on the border, lol)

and 4 within a few miles of the town

Wolfe Tones
Sarsfields
St Mary's (Antrim)
St Michaels (Down)

Compare that to the catchment Cross have....... and imagine if Lurgan had 1 or 2 superclubs.....




Eire Og is definitely not a Lurgan club
Anything north of Armagh city is by definition a shower of yappy townie huers from Lurgan! ;)

Except for Eire Og haha

Anything north of Cullyhanna I'd say....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on October 25, 2023, 10:06:16 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 25, 2023, 06:26:05 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 25, 2023, 05:47:24 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 24, 2023, 02:23:11 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on October 24, 2023, 01:58:49 PM
Quote from: tyroneman on October 24, 2023, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: naka on October 24, 2023, 12:16:09 PM
Quote from: shawshank on October 23, 2023, 04:24:18 PMAs Aaron Kernan picks up his 18th senior championship medal, it further confirms how crap the senior clubs in Armagh are that they annually role over. What is it Cross are doing the rest of you are not apart from living rent free in your heads.
having a catchment area that is second to none
there is simply too may clubs in armagh
lurgan has 4 teams
camlough/ bessbrook  2 teams and am not counting corrinshego)
cross has a committed area with no infiltration from soccer
fair play though to both clanns in lurgan they are investing in youth which will get rewards in the future

Some fair points there.

Cross do great work in bringing players through..just enough to keep supplementing the senior team with real quality. As said before they are usually there or threrabouts in Minor as well.

Having said that....when you think of competing for resources....against other GAA clubs (and numerous soccer clubs)

Lurgan actually has 5 teams:

Clann Eireann
Clan Na Gael
St Peters
St Pauls
Eire Og (you can debate it's in Craigavon, I'd say it's on the border, lol)

and 4 within a few miles of the town

Wolfe Tones
Sarsfields
St Mary's (Antrim)
St Michaels (Down)

Compare that to the catchment Cross have....... and imagine if Lurgan had 1 or 2 superclubs.....




Eire Og is definitely not a Lurgan club
Anything north of Armagh city is by definition a shower of yappy townie huers from Lurgan! ;)

Except for Eire Og haha

Anything north of Cullyhanna I'd say....
Now you're talking!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Truth hurts on October 27, 2023, 09:28:52 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 24, 2023, 06:36:59 PMThis argument about our pick is a red herring. We have families who reproduce generation upon generation. The team that started on Sunday for instance the goalkeeper and the cumiskey lads are first cousins on both their mammies side,  their mammies are sisters of John Donaldson. The goalkeepers daddy played on the same underage team as me and is from a long line of his family who played in the club. The Cumiskey's are related to Orin McKeown, my nephew, through their daddy. Orin is also a brother of Paul McKewon county player and AI winning captain. Paul Hughes grandfather played on the 1947 county championship win and his family are absolutely core Cross people. AK we know, the O Neills we know, Cian McConville we know, Jamie Clarke's family have been associated with the club for generations we several of them having played for Armagh in the 1950's. Orin Kieran's transferred on but the Kieran's family are long associated with the club. The Morris family have been involved in the club for generations as well. The only 'outsider' is Chris Crowley,  he married a cousin of mine who's father played in the 1970's and his father played in the 1940/50's and were heavily involved in the establishment of our current grounds in the 1950's.  The point I'm making is that we have tradition throughout and that is our success. The same with clubs like Bsllyhale in the hurling. Generations of families decade on decade. That's what we are.

That is the GAA and I am sure you could walk into any GAA club in Ireland and it would be the same story.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 27, 2023, 09:44:18 AM
Quote from: Truth hurts on October 27, 2023, 09:28:52 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 24, 2023, 06:36:59 PMThis argument about our pick is a red herring. We have families who reproduce generation upon generation. The team that started on Sunday for instance the goalkeeper and the cumiskey lads are first cousins on both their mammies side,  their mammies are sisters of John Donaldson. The goalkeepers daddy played on the same underage team as me and is from a long line of his family who played in the club. The Cumiskey's are related to Orin McKeown, my nephew, through their daddy. Orin is also a brother of Paul McKewon county player and AI winning captain. Paul Hughes grandfather played on the 1947 county championship win and his family are absolutely core Cross people. AK we know, the O Neills we know, Cian McConville we know, Jamie Clarke's family have been associated with the club for generations we several of them having played for Armagh in the 1950's. Orin Kieran's transferred on but the Kieran's family are long associated with the club. The Morris family have been involved in the club for generations as well. The only 'outsider' is Chris Crowley,  he married a cousin of mine who's father played in the 1970's and his father played in the 1940/50's and were heavily involved in the establishment of our current grounds in the 1950's.  The point I'm making is that we have tradition throughout and that is our success. The same with clubs like Bsllyhale in the hurling. Generations of families decade on decade. That's what we are.

That is the GAA and I am sure you could walk into any GAA club in Ireland and it would be the same story.

The point about pick is not quite a red herring. The other clubs in Upper Creggan have similar strong traditions and family connections, but have less families and so are unlikely to win a senior title unless an especially strong group come along. Rangers have a critical mass to be able to keep success going most years. This pattern is found throughout Ireland too.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 27, 2023, 10:10:29 AM
I am not saying we are any different to other clubs, in fact I'm saying we are exactly the same as them in that all our teams from top till bottom are built around families. I suppose the difference is that when the 'blood line' is as strong as it is and the culture and ethos is built into the children literally from birth then we keep those people around the club. I left the club as a playing member properly in 2006 but I am a Cross man and always will be one. My children are not involved in the club actively but they identify as Cross people (much to the disgust of their mother but that's another tale!), my youngest is only 3 but she knows all about the importance of it. Herself and myself discussed it the other night about the mindset and I made a comment which I didn't think was outrageous. She had been talking to one's in her work about the amount of titles we had won and AK in particular. We spoke about expectations of titles and about us hitting 50 and how many AK had in comparison to Hearty and McConville. I won't say what I said but she said it was the most Cross thing ever but then laughed and said that I was probably right! 

Mindsets are the main thing and that mindset enables us to retain players. Of the team that started in 1997 10 have players playing with the club are various levels. Of the squad you're probably adding another 6-7. That's some level of continuity
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on October 27, 2023, 10:28:26 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 27, 2023, 10:10:29 AMI am not saying we are any different to other clubs, in fact I'm saying we are exactly the same as them in that all our teams from top till bottom are built around families. I suppose the difference is that when the 'blood line' is as strong as it is and the culture and ethos is built into the children literally from birth then we keep those people around the club. I left the club as a playing member properly in 2006 but I am a Cross man and always will be one. 

The phenomenon is not unknown in other parts of Ireland, they even made a phrase about it "you can take the man out of the bog, but you cannot take the bog out of the man".
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 27, 2023, 10:46:35 AM
Quote from: armaghniac on October 27, 2023, 10:28:26 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 27, 2023, 10:10:29 AMI am not saying we are any different to other clubs, in fact I'm saying we are exactly the same as them in that all our teams from top till bottom are built around families. I suppose the difference is that when the 'blood line' is as strong as it is and the culture and ethos is built into the children literally from birth then we keep those people around the club. I left the club as a playing member properly in 2006 but I am a Cross man and always will be one. 

The phenomenon is not unknown in other parts of Ireland, they even made a phrase about it "you can take the man out of the bog, but you cannot take the bog out of the man".

You've obviously seen me still playing Dads and Lads!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on October 27, 2023, 03:30:53 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 27, 2023, 10:10:29 AMI am not saying we are any different to other clubs, in fact I'm saying we are exactly the same as them in that all our teams from top till bottom are built around families. I suppose the difference is that when the 'blood line' is as strong as it is and the culture and ethos is built into the children literally from birth then we keep those people around the club. I left the club as a playing member properly in 2006 but I am a Cross man and always will be one. My children are not involved in the club actively but they identify as Cross people (much to the disgust of their mother but that's another tale!), my youngest is only 3 but she knows all about the importance of it. Herself and myself discussed it the other night about the mindset and I made a comment which I didn't think was outrageous. She had been talking to one's in her work about the amount of titles we had won and AK in particular. We spoke about expectations of titles and about us hitting 50 and how many AK had in comparison to Hearty and McConville. I won't say what I said but she said it was the most Cross thing ever but then laughed and said that I was probably right! 

Mindsets are the main thing and that mindset enables us to retain players. Of the team that started in 1997 10 have players playing with the club are various levels. Of the squad you're probably adding another 6-7. That's some level of continuity
I was reading this the first time I was thinking f**k me thats an advanced 3 year old to be discussing the mindset of Cross!  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on October 27, 2023, 07:18:47 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 27, 2023, 03:30:53 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 27, 2023, 10:10:29 AMI am not saying we are any different to other clubs, in fact I'm saying we are exactly the same as them in that all our teams from top till bottom are built around families. I suppose the difference is that when the 'blood line' is as strong as it is and the culture and ethos is built into the children literally from birth then we keep those people around the club. I left the club as a playing member properly in 2006 but I am a Cross man and always will be one. My children are not involved in the club actively but they identify as Cross people (much to the disgust of their mother but that's another tale!), my youngest is only 3 but she knows all about the importance of it. Herself and myself discussed it the other night about the mindset and I made a comment which I didn't think was outrageous. She had been talking to one's in her work about the amount of titles we had won and AK in particular. We spoke about expectations of titles and about us hitting 50 and how many AK had in comparison to Hearty and McConville. I won't say what I said but she said it was the most Cross thing ever but then laughed and said that I was probably right! 

Mindsets are the main thing and that mindset enables us to retain players. Of the team that started in 1997 10 have players playing with the club are various levels. Of the squad you're probably adding another 6-7. That's some level of continuity
I was reading this the first time I was thinking f**k me thats an advanced 3 year old to be discussing the mindset of Cross!  ;D  ;D

Who's to say it wasn't?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on October 28, 2023, 07:12:23 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 27, 2023, 07:18:47 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on October 27, 2023, 03:30:53 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on October 27, 2023, 10:10:29 AMI am not saying we are any different to other clubs, in fact I'm saying we are exactly the same as them in that all our teams from top till bottom are built around families. I suppose the difference is that when the 'blood line' is as strong as it is and the culture and ethos is built into the children literally from birth then we keep those people around the club. I left the club as a playing member properly in 2006 but I am a Cross man and always will be one. My children are not involved in the club actively but they identify as Cross people (much to the disgust of their mother but that's another tale!), my youngest is only 3 but she knows all about the importance of it. Herself and myself discussed it the other night about the mindset and I made a comment which I didn't think was outrageous. She had been talking to one's in her work about the amount of titles we had won and AK in particular. We spoke about expectations of titles and about us hitting 50 and how many AK had in comparison to Hearty and McConville. I won't say what I said but she said it was the most Cross thing ever but then laughed and said that I was probably right! 

Mindsets are the main thing and that mindset enables us to retain players. Of the team that started in 1997 10 have players playing with the club are various levels. Of the squad you're probably adding another 6-7. That's some level of continuity
I was reading this the first time I was thinking f**k me thats an advanced 3 year old to be discussing the mindset of Cross!  ;D  ;D

Who's to say it wasn't?
Different breed yous lot!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: shawshank on November 20, 2023, 04:14:46 PM
Quote from: general_lee on October 24, 2023, 06:57:13 PM
Quote from: shawshank on October 24, 2023, 12:22:12 PM
Quote from: general_lee on October 24, 2023, 11:56:31 AM
Quote from: shawshank on October 24, 2023, 09:59:49 AMI main point still stands, what have the other clubs been doing that Cross have dominated, particularly from 96 onward. I fully accepted that there were a number of Cross teams in that period that will stand the test of time. However the there has been a period now where Cross have won and aren't close to being a threat in Ulster.
Someone reference my own county without realising they were making my point. Dungiven, Bellaghy, Ballinderry, Loup, Slaugtneil and now Glen all have won the Ulster club.  Our club championship is a graveyard for any club with ambitions of dominating for years such a Cross. The mentality of club football in Derry is fierce. Please don't tell me if Cross were in Derry they would be winning county titles year in and out. Definitely not.
You're complaining about Armagh clubs rolling over when the exact same is now happening in Derry? First Ballinderry, then Slaughtneil and now Glen. Fair enough there was greater competition back in the early/mid 00s but I know enough about Derry football to know it's a shadow of its former self. Magherafelt 5/1?

Your not getting it. Cross dominant in Armagh for how long. Meanwhile in the same period in Derry six clubs have won Ulster, four in AI Ireland finals, with two additional clubs making the county title breakthrough.
Do you see it.
Oh I get what you're saying, regardless of whether Cross are winning Ulsters/AIs or not, Armagh clubs remain shite. In a 12 year period 04-15 Cross won 8 Ulster titles, were the Derry/rest of Ulster clubs rolling over as well? 



glad you agree that Armagh clubs are shite.  ;D
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: winsamsoon on November 21, 2023, 12:14:16 PM
The standard is poor this year and has been for the past few years, however it entertains us through the months and it's all we have got.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on September 15, 2024, 08:01:03 PM
Championship will really get going next week cross v cullyhanna and clann eireann v Armagh harps the two stand out ties.clan na Gael will be favourites to beat kileavey who seem to have got their house in order following change of management.madden and mullaghbawn will think it's best draw could have got.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 16, 2024, 10:56:22 AM
Some good ties there.
Cross v Cullyhanna for me the standout. Cullyhanna will relish a cut at Cross and I imagine the feeling is mutual. I fancy Harps to cause an upset v CE, Clans/Killeavy is toss of a coin, Madden should have enough for Mullaghbawn.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on September 16, 2024, 12:00:21 PM
Quote from: general_lee on September 16, 2024, 10:56:22 AMSome good ties there.
Cross v Cullyhanna for me the standout. Cullyhanna will relish a cut at Cross and I imagine the feeling is mutual. I fancy Harps to cause an upset v CE, Clans/Killeavy is toss of a coin, Madden should have enough for Mullaghbawn.

Clans would been big favourites a few weeks ago and will still fancy the job here but Killeavey seem to have got their house in order, if Campbell or McPartlan turn up which they normally do would expect the Lurgan men to go through. 

Madden will be expected to win, but they don't normally wear the favourites tag too well, Mullaghbawn have turned things around well after a hammering the first day against Armagh Harps. 

Cullyhanna have the attack to cause Cross real problems and that one should go to the wire.  Clann Eireann I am hearing have a full deck to choose from think Turbitt will be the difference. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 16, 2024, 12:06:55 PM
Looking nicely set for the Lurgan Blues to push on and win it here. Decent enough draw for them and with Cullyhanna slight favourites to beat us and Harps able to cause an upset you'd think they Clans will drive on and build on their last few years of development
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on September 16, 2024, 01:03:46 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 16, 2024, 12:06:55 PMLooking nicely set for the Lurgan Blues to push on and win it here. Decent enough draw for them and with Cullyhanna slight favourites to beat us and Harps able to cause an upset you'd think they Clans will drive on and build on their last few years of development

Where are you seeing Cullyhanna favorites?

Would expect Madden and Clans to win, my initial thoughts when I seen the draw.  The other two games should be tightly contested matches.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: David McKeown on September 16, 2024, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on September 16, 2024, 01:03:46 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 16, 2024, 12:06:55 PMLooking nicely set for the Lurgan Blues to push on and win it here. Decent enough draw for them and with Cullyhanna slight favourites to beat us and Harps able to cause an upset you'd think they Clans will drive on and build on their last few years of development

Where are you seeing Cullyhanna favorites?

Would expect Madden and Clans to win, my initial thoughts when I seen the draw.  The other two games should be tightly contested matches.




I thought Cross were always the underdog at least in BCB's eyes. That said Cullyhana have impressed me the last few years so whilst I wouldn't say Cross are underdogs. I wouldn't be surprised if they lost.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on September 16, 2024, 03:01:02 PM
No team has really stood out so far.
Someone put the odds up over on orchard county, BoyleSports have Clans at 14/1, well worth a punt.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on September 17, 2024, 10:15:38 AM
Quote from: general_lee on September 16, 2024, 03:01:02 PMNo team has really stood out so far.

Agreed with this. Clans were very impressive the first day out against Rangers. They were really up for it and I'm not sure how much Rangers were. Certainly Soupy was very circumspect in his post match interview. Clans then followed that up with a very indifferent display in Granemore, albeit they dug out the victory in poor conditions. I would tip them to beat Killeavey after a tight struggle. 

St Pats got out of jail against Silverbridge thanks to a wonder score from Aidy Nugent. This match will represent the acid test for them. It will be interesting to see their approach; to see if they really believe they can topple Cross. Cross were the better team against Silverbridge, but the Bridge should be kicking themselves for a number of unnecessary turnovers that proved costly. Rangers' self belief versus the lack of belief in their opponents is still a major factor that sees them overcome many hurdles. 

Think we will be up against it when we play Clann Eireann, although again, Clann Eireann haven't been very impressive to date. We have a young team and had a favourable enough draw in the group stages. But this represents a step up in class in terms of the opposition.

Would expect Madden to have too much for Mullaghbawn. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bennydorano on September 19, 2024, 04:57:40 PM
I think if we get a good start v Clann Eireann we'll give them their fill of it but if it goes the other way it could be over pretty quickly. Clann Eireann made wee boys of us in the league in Abbey pk, but they've looked ropey in the championship tod date, but this is the time to kick on for the serious contenders.

Madden to win easy, no idea how Mullaghbawn got past Maghery, that was an implosion, looked so in control and messed it up.

Clans v Killeavey have a bit of history the past few years, Clans exacted revenge last year for the Perase Og Park heist in 2022, don't see Killeavey being beaten as easily this time round but still fancy Clans to win.

Expect Cross to beat Cullyhanna but would love to see the Cullies bringing it!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 12:20:22 PM
I see over on Orchardfans that Lissummon have issued a statement re 2nds teams being entered into the Junior League - anyone know where this can be viewed?

It would appear that Dromintee are entering a second team into Junior football for 2025 but I haven't seen any other club confirm they are doing likewise. If existing clubs remain that brings the number to 6 (CÉ, Cross, St Peter's, Killeavy, Madden).

I see both sides of the argument for and against. It may be worth exploring a Junior B championship as many of the weaker Junior teams will feel threatened by increased competition.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on November 21, 2024, 12:54:57 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 12:20:22 PMI see over on Orchardfans that Lissummon have issued a statement re 2nds teams being entered into the Junior League - anyone know where this can be viewed?

It would appear that Dromintee are entering a second team into Junior football for 2025 but I haven't seen any other club confirm they are doing likewise. If existing clubs remain that brings the number to 6 (CÉ, Cross, St Peter's, Killeavy, Madden).

I see both sides of the argument for and against. It may be worth exploring a Junior B championship as many of the weaker Junior teams will feel threatened by increased competition.
Clan NaGael had asked for numbers about a seconds team also I believe. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on November 21, 2024, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 12:20:22 PMI see over on Orchardfans that Lissummon have issued a statement re 2nds teams being entered into the Junior League - anyone know where this can be viewed?

It would appear that Dromintee are entering a second team into Junior football for 2025 but I haven't seen any other club confirm they are doing likewise. If existing clubs remain that brings the number to 6 (CÉ, Cross, St Peter's, Killeavy, Madden).

I see both sides of the argument for and against. It may be worth exploring a Junior B championship as many of the weaker Junior teams will feel threatened by increased competition.

I'd be happy to see a junior b championship introduced the way things currently stand.

Ideally I'd prefer if 2nd teams played in a properly run reserve championship that's played at the same time as the other championships. By all means allow them to enter the all county leagues. Only teams eligible to represent the county in Ulster club competition should be competing in the championship set up. CE II won the junior last year and there was barely a whimper out of them at the final whistle. Let smaller clubs get their day in the sun.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 03:14:24 PM
In an ideal world all the 2nds & reserve sides would be in their own standalone league and championship. That would require overhauling club football in the county. In reality, reserve football is very much an afterthought for both the county board and most clubs. It gets next to zero publicity or promotion by the county board and every year the championship is forced through in June/July when half the country is away on holidays.

For those clubs with the numbers and talent, why should their players be confined to what is essentially a  pub team competition? So what if CÉ II didn't dance from the rooftops when they won the JFC? They demonstrated this year that they're capable of playing at a much higher level. For some of their players, they might never play senior football - how's that any different to any other junior club player?

At the end of the day it comes down to the fundamental principle of promoting Gaelic games. Why should players be restricted from playing at the highest level because some junior clubs feel threatened? A rising tide lifts all boats, although I don't think any other IIs teams will win a JFC anytime soon.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on November 21, 2024, 03:58:40 PM
How many seconds teams have won the junior? 2 by my count from memory?

Its hard for the likes of Lissummon.  They would have a smaller pool of players, competition may not be there internally for players to improve, standards/discipline probably slips throughout the year as there would be little consequences.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on November 21, 2024, 06:08:15 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on November 21, 2024, 03:58:40 PMHow many seconds teams have won the junior? 2 by my count from memory?

Correct - Harps (1957) and Cross - was there anyone else?  :P

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Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 12:20:22 PMIt would appear that Dromintee are entering a second team into Junior football for 2025 but I haven't seen any other club confirm they are doing likewise. If existing clubs remain that brings the number to 6 (CÉ, Cross, St Peter's, Killeavy, Madden).

My understanding is that the Ogs and Clans are both seriously considering their options in this regard.

As others have alluded to, the absence of a meaningful 'B' / Reserve League means that many Clubs can no longer offer a lot of their players coming out of Minor, regular football. A competitive Reserve League would be great to see, but I think for the time being I think the only realistic option will be for teams to enter a second team in Division 3. 


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 08:26:35 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on November 21, 2024, 03:58:40 PMHow many seconds teams have won the junior? 2 by my count from memory?
Going by Wikipedia: Clans in 1968, Cross in 2002 & Clann Éireann in 2023. Cross II reached the final in 2021 and Cullyhanna II were beaten in a replay in 2016.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on November 21, 2024, 08:44:59 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 08:26:35 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on November 21, 2024, 03:58:40 PMHow many seconds teams have won the junior? 2 by my count from memory?
Going by Wikipedia: Clans in 1968, Cross in 2002 & Clann Éireann in 2023. Cross II reached the final in 2021 and Cullyhanna II were beaten in a replay in 2016.

We did the senior and junior double in 1926....
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 08:49:24 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 21, 2024, 08:44:59 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 08:26:35 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on November 21, 2024, 03:58:40 PMHow many seconds teams have won the junior? 2 by my count from memory?
Going by Wikipedia: Clans in 1968, Cross in 2002 & Clann Éireann in 2023. Cross II reached the final in 2021 and Cullyhanna II were beaten in a replay in 2016.

We did the senior and junior double in 1926....
Fair play. I see Clans also did it in 1968. And Cross again in 2002.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Jules on November 21, 2024, 09:27:21 PM
I think what you'll find with II's is when you play them in the league and then in the championship it's not the same teams. Not full 15 but when you can call in 3/4 boys who are fairly handy it makes a big difference at Junior level. Clubs can talk about having 2 different squads and sets of players but a proper Junior club will more than likely have the same 20/22 players playing for them all season.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on November 22, 2024, 12:00:33 AM
Quote from: ranch on November 21, 2024, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 12:20:22 PMI see over on Orchardfans that Lissummon have issued a statement re 2nds teams being entered into the Junior League - anyone know where this can be viewed?

It would appear that Dromintee are entering a second team into Junior football for 2025 but I haven't seen any other club confirm they are doing likewise. If existing clubs remain that brings the number to 6 (CÉ, Cross, St Peter's, Killeavy, Madden).

I see both sides of the argument for and against. It may be worth exploring a Junior B championship as many of the weaker Junior teams will feel threatened by increased competition.

I'd be happy to see a junior b championship introduced the way things currently stand.

Ideally I'd prefer if 2nd teams played in a properly run reserve championship that's played at the same time as the other championships. By all means allow them to enter the all county leagues. Only teams eligible to represent the county in Ulster club competition should be competing in the championship set up. CE II won the junior last year and there was barely a whimper out of them at the final whistle. Let smaller clubs get their day in the sun.
Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 03:14:24 PMIn an ideal world all the 2nds & reserve sides would be in their own standalone league and championship. That would require overhauling club football in the county. In reality, reserve football is very much an afterthought for both the county board and most clubs. It gets next to zero publicity or promotion by the county board and every year the championship is forced through in June/July when half the country is away on holidays.

For those clubs with the numbers and talent, why should their players be confined to what is essentially a  pub team competition? So what if CÉ II didn't dance from the rooftops when they won the JFC? They demonstrated this year that they're capable of playing at a much higher level. For some of their players, they might never play senior football - how's that any different to any other junior club player?

At the end of the day it comes down to the fundamental principle of promoting Gaelic games. Why should players be restricted from playing at the highest level because some junior clubs feel threatened? A rising tide lifts all boats, although I don't think any other IIs teams will win a JFC anytime soon.

A reserve championship should be for reserve teams, which is what II's teams are. Play it at the same time as the Junior/Intermediate/Senior and give it the profile it deserves. Have the final before the senior final, and junior can be played before intermediate. This is no different to what you said yourself regarding a properly run reserve championship being a good thing.

If competing in the all county league gives lads more regular football than the reserve league then I'm all for allowing them to do so, but championship is different. This would probably require a de-coupling of league and championship to make it work, something I'd support. I accept however that it's not what the majority support.

The teams who play in the championship should be able to go on to represent the county in Ulster club competition in my opinion. I accept it's something that has happened long before these Ulster and All Ireland competitions existed however and is unlikely to change.

As for your point about some junior clubs feeling threatened, I'm not sure what that's about. As far as I'm aware 2nd's teams have been competing against junior clubs for years without any complaint. They are entitled to have an opinion on it that changes over time though. If they feel it skews the competition when you have Junior clubs competing against a senior club's reserve team then why wouldn't they express that view? You said it yourself in your original comment on the topic that you see both sides of the argument, so it surely shouldn't need much explaining.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on November 22, 2024, 01:25:45 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on November 21, 2024, 08:44:59 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 08:26:35 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on November 21, 2024, 03:58:40 PMHow many seconds teams have won the junior? 2 by my count from memory?
Going by Wikipedia: Clans in 1968, Cross in 2002 & Clann Éireann in 2023. Cross II reached the final in 2021 and Cullyhanna II were beaten in a replay in 2016.

We did the senior and junior double in 1926....

As did we in 1957.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on November 22, 2024, 09:09:36 AM
Quote from: ranch on November 22, 2024, 12:00:33 AM
Quote from: ranch on November 21, 2024, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 12:20:22 PMI see over on Orchardfans that Lissummon have issued a statement re 2nds teams being entered into the Junior League - anyone know where this can be viewed?

It would appear that Dromintee are entering a second team into Junior football for 2025 but I haven't seen any other club confirm they are doing likewise. If existing clubs remain that brings the number to 6 (CÉ, Cross, St Peter's, Killeavy, Madden).

I see both sides of the argument for and against. It may be worth exploring a Junior B championship as many of the weaker Junior teams will feel threatened by increased competition.

I'd be happy to see a junior b championship introduced the way things currently stand.

Ideally I'd prefer if 2nd teams played in a properly run reserve championship that's played at the same time as the other championships. By all means allow them to enter the all county leagues. Only teams eligible to represent the county in Ulster club competition should be competing in the championship set up. CE II won the junior last year and there was barely a whimper out of them at the final whistle. Let smaller clubs get their day in the sun.
Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 03:14:24 PMIn an ideal world all the 2nds & reserve sides would be in their own standalone league and championship. That would require overhauling club football in the county. In reality, reserve football is very much an afterthought for both the county board and most clubs. It gets next to zero publicity or promotion by the county board and every year the championship is forced through in June/July when half the country is away on holidays.

For those clubs with the numbers and talent, why should their players be confined to what is essentially a  pub team competition? So what if CÉ II didn't dance from the rooftops when they won the JFC? They demonstrated this year that they're capable of playing at a much higher level. For some of their players, they might never play senior football - how's that any different to any other junior club player?

At the end of the day it comes down to the fundamental principle of promoting Gaelic games. Why should players be restricted from playing at the highest level because some junior clubs feel threatened? A rising tide lifts all boats, although I don't think any other IIs teams will win a JFC anytime soon.

A reserve championship should be for reserve teams, which is what II's teams are. Play it at the same time as the Junior/Intermediate/Senior and give it the profile it deserves. Have the final before the senior final, and junior can be played before intermediate. This is no different to what you said yourself regarding a properly run reserve championship being a good thing.

If competing in the all county league gives lads more regular football than the reserve league then I'm all for allowing them to do so, but championship is different. This would probably require a de-coupling of league and championship to make it work, something I'd support. I accept however that it's not what the majority support.

The teams who play in the championship should be able to go on to represent the county in Ulster club competition in my opinion. I accept it's something that has happened long before these Ulster and All Ireland competitions existed however and is unlikely to change.

As for your point about some junior clubs feeling threatened, I'm not sure what that's about. As far as I'm aware 2nd's teams have been competing against junior clubs for years without any complaint. They are entitled to have an opinion on it that changes over time though. If they feel it skews the competition when you have Junior clubs competing against a senior club's reserve team then why wouldn't they express that view? You said it yourself in your original comment on the topic that you see both sides of the argument, so it surely shouldn't need much explaining.

Aye, sort of the point I was trying to make.  A seconds team rarely win the junior championship, so I don't think it is skewing the competition that much?
Unsure how the leagues fair out to be fair, but on the other side of the coin I seen Madden second team got some big losses this year, so it works both ways. 


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general on November 22, 2024, 11:47:48 AM
Junior league format should be for junior clubs

CE made a mockery of it last year - openly said it was feeding the senior team players.

With such an influx of 2nds teams (already and 5-7 planned next year) there is huge scope for a B Premier Reserve League and championship.

Let the actual junior clubs battle it out for their accolades.

Senior clubs saying reserve leagues don't work yet they will be happy to come in and dominate against junior league teams. If it works with them in the junior leagues then it must work by a stand alone B League.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on November 22, 2024, 01:34:49 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on November 22, 2024, 09:09:36 AM
Quote from: ranch on November 22, 2024, 12:00:33 AM
Quote from: ranch on November 21, 2024, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 12:20:22 PMI see over on Orchardfans that Lissummon have issued a statement re 2nds teams being entered into the Junior League - anyone know where this can be viewed?

It would appear that Dromintee are entering a second team into Junior football for 2025 but I haven't seen any other club confirm they are doing likewise. If existing clubs remain that brings the number to 6 (CÉ, Cross, St Peter's, Killeavy, Madden).

I see both sides of the argument for and against. It may be worth exploring a Junior B championship as many of the weaker Junior teams will feel threatened by increased competition.

I'd be happy to see a junior b championship introduced the way things currently stand.

Ideally I'd prefer if 2nd teams played in a properly run reserve championship that's played at the same time as the other championships. By all means allow them to enter the all county leagues. Only teams eligible to represent the county in Ulster club competition should be competing in the championship set up. CE II won the junior last year and there was barely a whimper out of them at the final whistle. Let smaller clubs get their day in the sun.
Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 03:14:24 PMIn an ideal world all the 2nds & reserve sides would be in their own standalone league and championship. That would require overhauling club football in the county. In reality, reserve football is very much an afterthought for both the county board and most clubs. It gets next to zero publicity or promotion by the county board and every year the championship is forced through in June/July when half the country is away on holidays.

For those clubs with the numbers and talent, why should their players be confined to what is essentially a  pub team competition? So what if CÉ II didn't dance from the rooftops when they won the JFC? They demonstrated this year that they're capable of playing at a much higher level. For some of their players, they might never play senior football - how's that any different to any other junior club player?

At the end of the day it comes down to the fundamental principle of promoting Gaelic games. Why should players be restricted from playing at the highest level because some junior clubs feel threatened? A rising tide lifts all boats, although I don't think any other IIs teams will win a JFC anytime soon.

A reserve championship should be for reserve teams, which is what II's teams are. Play it at the same time as the Junior/Intermediate/Senior and give it the profile it deserves. Have the final before the senior final, and junior can be played before intermediate. This is no different to what you said yourself regarding a properly run reserve championship being a good thing.

If competing in the all county league gives lads more regular football than the reserve league then I'm all for allowing them to do so, but championship is different. This would probably require a de-coupling of league and championship to make it work, something I'd support. I accept however that it's not what the majority support.

The teams who play in the championship should be able to go on to represent the county in Ulster club competition in my opinion. I accept it's something that has happened long before these Ulster and All Ireland competitions existed however and is unlikely to change.

As for your point about some junior clubs feeling threatened, I'm not sure what that's about. As far as I'm aware 2nd's teams have been competing against junior clubs for years without any complaint. They are entitled to have an opinion on it that changes over time though. If they feel it skews the competition when you have Junior clubs competing against a senior club's reserve team then why wouldn't they express that view? You said it yourself in your original comment on the topic that you see both sides of the argument, so it surely shouldn't need much explaining.

Aye, sort of the point I was trying to make.  A seconds team rarely win the junior championship, so I don't think it is skewing the competition that much?
Unsure how the leagues fair out to be fair, but on the other side of the coin I seen Madden second team got some big losses this year, so it works both ways. 


Whether you think it skews it or not isn't really the point. Some junior clubs clearly feel it does, or that it's becoming that way.

My view on it is simple enough. Let seconds teams play league football as it gives lads organised games without the postponements that are rife in the reserve league.

Also give them a properly run reserve championship. Let junior clubs compete against each other for a junior championship. Likewise intermediate.
A senior clubs reserve side winning a junior championship against clubs that are much smaller shouldn't really happen in a well run system.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on November 22, 2024, 02:13:13 PM
Quote from: ranch on November 22, 2024, 12:00:33 AM
Quote from: ranch on November 21, 2024, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 12:20:22 PMI see over on Orchardfans that Lissummon have issued a statement re 2nds teams being entered into the Junior League - anyone know where this can be viewed?

It would appear that Dromintee are entering a second team into Junior football for 2025 but I haven't seen any other club confirm they are doing likewise. If existing clubs remain that brings the number to 6 (CÉ, Cross, St Peter's, Killeavy, Madden).

I see both sides of the argument for and against. It may be worth exploring a Junior B championship as many of the weaker Junior teams will feel threatened by increased competition.

I'd be happy to see a junior b championship introduced the way things currently stand.

Ideally I'd prefer if 2nd teams played in a properly run reserve championship that's played at the same time as the other championships. By all means allow them to enter the all county leagues. Only teams eligible to represent the county in Ulster club competition should be competing in the championship set up. CE II won the junior last year and there was barely a whimper out of them at the final whistle. Let smaller clubs get their day in the sun.
Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 03:14:24 PMIn an ideal world all the 2nds & reserve sides would be in their own standalone league and championship. That would require overhauling club football in the county. In reality, reserve football is very much an afterthought for both the county board and most clubs. It gets next to zero publicity or promotion by the county board and every year the championship is forced through in June/July when half the country is away on holidays.

For those clubs with the numbers and talent, why should their players be confined to what is essentially a  pub team competition? So what if CÉ II didn't dance from the rooftops when they won the JFC? They demonstrated this year that they're capable of playing at a much higher level. For some of their players, they might never play senior football - how's that any different to any other junior club player?

At the end of the day it comes down to the fundamental principle of promoting Gaelic games. Why should players be restricted from playing at the highest level because some junior clubs feel threatened? A rising tide lifts all boats, although I don't think any other IIs teams will win a JFC anytime soon.

A reserve championship should be for reserve teams, which is what II's teams are. Play it at the same time as the Junior/Intermediate/Senior and give it the profile it deserves. Have the final before the senior final, and junior can be played before intermediate. This is no different to what you said yourself regarding a properly run reserve championship being a good thing.

If competing in the all county league gives lads more regular football than the reserve league then I'm all for allowing them to do so, but championship is different. This would probably require a de-coupling of league and championship to make it work, something I'd support. I accept however that it's not what the majority support.

The teams who play in the championship should be able to go on to represent the county in Ulster club competition in my opinion. I accept it's something that has happened long before these Ulster and All Ireland competitions existed however and is unlikely to change.

As for your point about some junior clubs feeling threatened, I'm not sure what that's about. As far as I'm aware 2nd's teams have been competing against junior clubs for years without any complaint. They are entitled to have an opinion on it that changes over time though. If they feel it skews the competition when you have Junior clubs competing against a senior club's reserve team then why wouldn't they express that view? You said it yourself in your original comment on the topic that you see both sides of the argument, so it surely shouldn't need much explaining.
I agree, in an ideal world there'd be a proper, standalone Reserve/'B' championship and it would be a fairly strong competition at that. The Junior teams could tear away in their Junior championship and they'd have nothing to worry about with 2nds teams.

I am a realist though, we are too far gone and I can't see any sort overhaul of the current setup in order to placate a couple of junior clubs - especially as you and others have pointed out that bigger clubs have been entering (and on the rare occasion winning) the junior championship for around a century.

This is the bit where I sympathise with the big boys - if a club has 50+ adult men wanting to represent their club and the best on offer is a half a dozen (if they're lucky) games against other (weaker, thrown together, sometimes recreational) reserve sides that they'll compete against for a rushed out championship in July, why should they not be in the Junior championship? Why should those players not be allowed to progress into intermediate if they're good enough? Why should they be limited to a standalone reserve championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on November 22, 2024, 02:22:24 PM
Quote from: general on November 22, 2024, 11:47:48 AMCE made a mockery of it last year - openly said it was feeding the senior team players.
You could argue that they made a mockery of the Intermediate championship as well. Honest question: if you were from CE would you be happy for your players to be confined to a reserve championship every year?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on November 22, 2024, 02:49:18 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 22, 2024, 02:13:13 PM
Quote from: ranch on November 22, 2024, 12:00:33 AM
Quote from: ranch on November 21, 2024, 01:15:57 PM
Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 12:20:22 PMI see over on Orchardfans that Lissummon have issued a statement re 2nds teams being entered into the Junior League - anyone know where this can be viewed?

It would appear that Dromintee are entering a second team into Junior football for 2025 but I haven't seen any other club confirm they are doing likewise. If existing clubs remain that brings the number to 6 (CÉ, Cross, St Peter's, Killeavy, Madden).

I see both sides of the argument for and against. It may be worth exploring a Junior B championship as many of the weaker Junior teams will feel threatened by increased competition.

I'd be happy to see a junior b championship introduced the way things currently stand.

Ideally I'd prefer if 2nd teams played in a properly run reserve championship that's played at the same time as the other championships. By all means allow them to enter the all county leagues. Only teams eligible to represent the county in Ulster club competition should be competing in the championship set up. CE II won the junior last year and there was barely a whimper out of them at the final whistle. Let smaller clubs get their day in the sun.
Quote from: general_lee on November 21, 2024, 03:14:24 PMIn an ideal world all the 2nds & reserve sides would be in their own standalone league and championship. That would require overhauling club football in the county. In reality, reserve football is very much an afterthought for both the county board and most clubs. It gets next to zero publicity or promotion by the county board and every year the championship is forced through in June/July when half the country is away on holidays.

For those clubs with the numbers and talent, why should their players be confined to what is essentially a  pub team competition? So what if CÉ II didn't dance from the rooftops when they won the JFC? They demonstrated this year that they're capable of playing at a much higher level. For some of their players, they might never play senior football - how's that any different to any other junior club player?

At the end of the day it comes down to the fundamental principle of promoting Gaelic games. Why should players be restricted from playing at the highest level because some junior clubs feel threatened? A rising tide lifts all boats, although I don't think any other IIs teams will win a JFC anytime soon.

A reserve championship should be for reserve teams, which is what II's teams are. Play it at the same time as the Junior/Intermediate/Senior and give it the profile it deserves. Have the final before the senior final, and junior can be played before intermediate. This is no different to what you said yourself regarding a properly run reserve championship being a good thing.

If competing in the all county league gives lads more regular football than the reserve league then I'm all for allowing them to do so, but championship is different. This would probably require a de-coupling of league and championship to make it work, something I'd support. I accept however that it's not what the majority support.

The teams who play in the championship should be able to go on to represent the county in Ulster club competition in my opinion. I accept it's something that has happened long before these Ulster and All Ireland competitions existed however and is unlikely to change.

As for your point about some junior clubs feeling threatened, I'm not sure what that's about. As far as I'm aware 2nd's teams have been competing against junior clubs for years without any complaint. They are entitled to have an opinion on it that changes over time though. If they feel it skews the competition when you have Junior clubs competing against a senior club's reserve team then why wouldn't they express that view? You said it yourself in your original comment on the topic that you see both sides of the argument, so it surely shouldn't need much explaining.
I agree, in an ideal world there'd be a proper, standalone Reserve/'B' championship and it would be a fairly strong competition at that. The Junior teams could tear away in their Junior championship and they'd have nothing to worry about with 2nds teams.

I am a realist though, we are too far gone and I can't see any sort overhaul of the current setup in order to placate a couple of junior clubs - especially as you and others have pointed out that bigger clubs have been entering (and on the rare occasion winning) the junior championship for around a century.

This is the bit where I sympathise with the big boys - if a club has 50+ adult men wanting to represent their club and the best on offer is a half a dozen (if they're lucky) games against other (weaker, thrown together, sometimes recreational) reserve sides that they'll compete against for a rushed out championship in July, why should they not be in the Junior championship? Why should those players not be allowed to progress into intermediate if they're good enough? Why should they be limited to a standalone reserve championship?

Thats it, we have been lauding CE and how they have got a good structure in place to keep young adults involved in the game, but there would be objections to giving them meaningful competition?

My own club had a run of success in the not too distant past and a lot of players never got game time bar B games.  Players quit for other teams or  they quit football altogether, and my club could be doing with said players now.   


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ClubScene13 on November 22, 2024, 06:58:04 PM
Do you not have a Division 1 Reserve league? Fairly well ran in Tyrone there doesn't be many games conceded across a 15 game season and reserve championship played midweek in summer. Do Armagh not have enough clubs that can field a reserve team to provide something similar to this and save reserve teams entering junior?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on November 22, 2024, 10:02:23 PM
The reserve games being on a wednesday night hasn't helped things either with the majority of games played on Friday nights.If a few lads are unavailable from last senior game a senior manager isn't going to want a lad playing a game wednesday night knowing they going to play a senior game on the Friday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on November 23, 2024, 02:13:59 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on November 22, 2024, 06:58:04 PMDo you not have a Division 1 Reserve league? Fairly well ran in Tyrone there doesn't be many games conceded across a 15 game season and reserve championship played midweek in summer. Do Armagh not have enough clubs that can field a reserve team to provide something similar to this and save reserve teams entering junior?
The reserve leagues were split into groups this year. Technically there was a Division 1 (in name only: 1A & 1B) split geographically and contained Intermediate and Junior reserve sides.

Even if all the senior reserve sides entered into one standalone league, not all of them field a strong team; so it doesn't really solve the issue of providing meaningful, competitive football for the clubs that do.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: bogball88 on December 02, 2024, 12:10:13 PM
Any word how the team holiday went over in Miami? Did they get much pre season training done?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on December 02, 2024, 01:36:26 PM
Quote from: bogball88 on December 02, 2024, 12:10:13 PMAny word how the team holiday went over in Miami? Did they get much pre season training done?

loads
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cavan19 on December 04, 2024, 02:09:41 PM
Any lads removed from the panel for 2025?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 04, 2024, 02:22:56 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 04, 2024, 02:09:41 PMAny lads removed from the panel for 2025?
Sounds like you already know
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on December 04, 2024, 04:53:06 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 04, 2024, 02:22:56 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 04, 2024, 02:09:41 PMAny lads removed from the panel for 2025?
Sounds like you already know

He clearly knows. So why even ask
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: joemamas on December 04, 2024, 05:42:31 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 04, 2024, 04:53:06 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 04, 2024, 02:22:56 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 04, 2024, 02:09:41 PMAny lads removed from the panel for 2025?
Sounds like you already know

He clearly knows. So why even ask

He is clearly one of the many aliases used by the same WUM merchant.
reason that I like many others dont even bother logging on or even looking on what was once a reputable blog with good GAA insight.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Cavan19 on December 04, 2024, 08:53:29 PM
Quote from: joemamas on December 04, 2024, 05:42:31 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 04, 2024, 04:53:06 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 04, 2024, 02:22:56 PM
Quote from: Cavan19 on December 04, 2024, 02:09:41 PMAny lads removed from the panel for 2025?
Sounds like you already know

He clearly knows. So why even ask

He is clearly one of the many aliases used by the same WUM merchant.
reason that I like many others dont even bother logging on or even looking on what was once a reputable blog with good GAA insight.

Thanks for looking and logging on to comment.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 05, 2024, 03:11:23 PM
According to Orchardfans Harps, Silverbridge and Clans will be entering Junior teams along with Dromintee. Has this been confirmed? Makes for 21 teams in the JFC for 2025  :o
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on December 05, 2024, 04:48:22 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 05, 2024, 03:11:23 PMAccording to Orchardfans Harps, Silverbridge and Clans will be entering Junior teams along with Dromintee. Has this been confirmed? Makes for 21 teams in the JFC for 2025  :o

Think the Ogs are as well.

The opportunity to create an All County Reserve League for those Clubs capable of putting forward a second team, must be very close. Would also ensure Junior teams could play league (and Junior Championship) football amongst themselves.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: WT4E on December 06, 2024, 12:02:32 AM
What's the SCANDAL in Armagh
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: armaghniac on December 06, 2024, 12:13:50 AM
Quote from: general_lee on December 05, 2024, 03:11:23 PMAccording to Orchardfans Harps, Silverbridge and Clans will be entering Junior teams along with Dromintee. Has this been confirmed? Makes for 21 teams in the JFC for 2025  :o

Fair play to Silverbridge, which is not a densely populated place.

Quote from: WT4E on December 06, 2024, 12:02:32 AMWhat's the SCANDAL in Armagh

The coffee in the Athletic grounds is shite.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: roadsidefox on December 07, 2024, 11:33:57 PM
This doesn't look good?

https://www.sundayworld.com/sport/gaa/police-confirm-investigation-into-serious-incident-on-armagh-gaa-holiday-to-miami/a1925402895.html
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: jb77 on December 08, 2024, 08:40:21 AM
The fact they aren't in a position to outright deny these rumours the minute they gained traction is telling
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Truthsayer on December 08, 2024, 09:16:44 AM
As mentioned on another thread is best not discussed on social media platform. Ongoing investigation and needs to be left that way for all concerned rather than by trial by GAA Board...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on December 08, 2024, 11:08:22 AM
Poorly written article. Why would they comment on an ongoing legal matter ffs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 08, 2024, 11:42:54 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 08, 2024, 11:08:22 AMPoorly written article. Why would they comment on an ongoing legal matter ffs.
They did well to make it as lengthy as that tbh.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on December 08, 2024, 01:46:37 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 08, 2024, 11:42:54 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 08, 2024, 11:08:22 AMPoorly written article. Why would they comment on an ongoing legal matter ffs.
They did well to make it as lengthy as that tbh.

A lot of talk about prices and a made up quote
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 07:45:36 PM
It's the Sunday World what do you expect lol. Sensationalist headline based on nothing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tyrone08 on December 08, 2024, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 07:45:36 PMIt's the Sunday World what do you expect lol. Sensationalist headline based on nothing.

That is some take on it. Now in the bbc. Knew armagh players didn't have good reputations but this unbelievable.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SouthOfThe Bann on December 08, 2024, 10:15:24 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on December 08, 2024, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 07:45:36 PMIt's the Sunday World what do you expect lol. Sensationalist headline based on nothing.

That is some take on it. Now in the bbc. Knew armagh players didn't have good reputations but this unbelievable.

All the news outlets have picked it up now. It will grow legs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on December 08, 2024, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 07:45:36 PMIt's the Sunday World what do you expect lol. Sensationalist headline based on nothing.

That is some take on it. Now in the bbc. Knew armagh players didn't have good reputations but this unbelievable.
I've maybe worded that wrong. Obviously it's very serious whats being talked about. But f**k off with your sly digs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tyrone08 on December 08, 2024, 10:20:40 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 10:15:45 PM
Quote from: tyrone08 on December 08, 2024, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 07:45:36 PMIt's the Sunday World what do you expect lol. Sensationalist headline based on nothing.

That is some take on it. Now in the bbc. Knew armagh players didn't have good reputations but this unbelievable.
I've maybe worded that wrong. Obviously it's very serious whats being talked about. But f**k off with your sly digs.

Worded it wrong....you called it sensationalist. F**K off with your defending abuse to women.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: WT4E on December 08, 2024, 11:01:48 PM
Quote from: WT4E on December 06, 2024, 12:02:32 AMWhat's the SCANDAL in Armagh

Called it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DeasBéalFeirste on December 09, 2024, 06:55:16 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on December 08, 2024, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 07:45:36 PMIt's the Sunday World what do you expect lol. Sensationalist headline based on nothing.

That is some take on it. Now in the bbc. Knew armagh players didn't have good reputations but this unbelievable.

A bit of cop on with that would you. One thing that really bugs me about this board is the need to attribute a set of characteristics to a team or a whole county based on football rivalries. I see it all the time. Childish shite at the best of times but doing it about a serious topic like this is just messed up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on December 09, 2024, 07:57:18 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on December 08, 2024, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 07:45:36 PMIt's the Sunday World what do you expect lol. Sensationalist headline based on nothing.

That is some take on it. Now in the bbc. Knew armagh players didn't have good reputations but this unbelievable.

Oh ffs. It's one player. You gonna tarnish the whole squad?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tyrone08 on December 09, 2024, 08:50:52 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 09, 2024, 07:57:18 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on December 08, 2024, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 07:45:36 PMIt's the Sunday World what do you expect lol. Sensationalist headline based on nothing.

That is some take on it. Now in the bbc. Knew armagh players didn't have good reputations but this unbelievable.

Oh ffs. It's one player. You gonna tarnish the whole squad?

Armagh player banned for eye goughing, armagh player kicking connor glass in the head. We are up to 3 players now already
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: imtommygunn on December 09, 2024, 09:15:28 AM
FFS that's stuff on a football pitch. This is very different and to compare them is ludicrous.

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 09, 2024, 10:34:12 AM
Lads there's a very serious allegation being investigated which goes beyond tribal bullshit. If what I have heard is investigated and found true then the individual allegedly involved deserves to feel the full force of the law. I also understand that there is full cooperation and the reason it is with the PSNI is because of the actions of the management and CB to ensure this is dealt with appropriately.

There isn't a county team that hasn't had its 'bad eggs' so leave the arseholery for the big man talk in the pub.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on December 09, 2024, 10:58:51 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on December 09, 2024, 08:50:52 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 09, 2024, 07:57:18 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on December 08, 2024, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 07:45:36 PMIt's the Sunday World what do you expect lol. Sensationalist headline based on nothing.

That is some take on it. Now in the bbc. Knew armagh players didn't have good reputations but this unbelievable.

Oh ffs. It's one player. You gonna tarnish the whole squad?

Armagh player banned for eye goughing, armagh player kicking connor glass in the head. We are up to 3 players now already

No harm but you're a Tyrone fan giving off about players on field antics. Pot. Kettle. Black.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on December 09, 2024, 10:59:32 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 09, 2024, 10:34:12 AMLads there's a very serious allegation being investigated which goes beyond tribal bullshit. If what I have heard is investigated and found true then the individual allegedly involved deserves to feel the full force of the law. I also understand that there is full cooperation and the reason it is with the PSNI is because of the actions of the management and CB to ensure this is dealt with appropriately.

There isn't a county team that hasn't had its 'bad eggs' so leave the arseholery for the big man talk in the pub.

Exactly this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tyrone08 on December 10, 2024, 03:33:01 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 09, 2024, 10:58:51 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on December 09, 2024, 08:50:52 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 09, 2024, 07:57:18 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on December 08, 2024, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 07:45:36 PMIt's the Sunday World what do you expect lol. Sensationalist headline based on nothing.

That is some take on it. Now in the bbc. Knew armagh players didn't have good reputations but this unbelievable.

Oh ffs. It's one player. You gonna tarnish the whole squad?

Armagh player banned for eye goughing, armagh player kicking connor glass in the head. We are up to 3 players now already

No harm but you're a Tyrone fan giving off about players on field antics. Pot. Kettle. Black.

Quote from: tonto1888 on December 09, 2024, 10:58:51 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on December 09, 2024, 08:50:52 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 09, 2024, 07:57:18 AM
Quote from: tyrone08 on December 08, 2024, 09:49:16 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 08, 2024, 07:45:36 PMIt's the Sunday World what do you expect lol. Sensationalist headline based on nothing.

That is some take on it. Now in the bbc. Knew armagh players didn't have good reputations but this unbelievable.

Oh ffs. It's one player. You gonna tarnish the whole squad?

Armagh player banned for eye goughing, armagh player kicking connor glass in the head. We are up to 3 players now already

No harm but you're a Tyrone fan giving off about players on field antics. Pot. Kettle. Black.

Tyrone havent been involved in too many recent onfield issues probably cause we have been shit last 3 years. Those armagh incidents were within the last 2 years however.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on December 11, 2024, 03:51:28 PM
BBC reporting an arrest
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on December 11, 2024, 04:03:11 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on December 11, 2024, 03:51:28 PMBBC reporting an arrest
Armagh I have advised he "voluntarily presented" himself for questioning and released on bail. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: WT4E on December 11, 2024, 04:27:20 PM
Is it true it involves another players partner?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: p3427977 on December 11, 2024, 05:39:32 PM
Quote from: WT4E on December 11, 2024, 04:27:20 PMIs it true it involves another players partner?
Apparently
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Norm-Peterson on December 11, 2024, 06:08:38 PM
Hearing about players on these expensive foreign trips makes me glad I am just an armchair fan and not someone who actively gives money to the GAA. Imagine your money going to pay for other mens holidays.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Tubberman on December 11, 2024, 06:19:26 PM
Quote from: p3427977 on December 11, 2024, 05:39:32 PM
Quote from: WT4E on December 11, 2024, 04:27:20 PMIs it true it involves another players partner?
Apparently

And is denying any wrongdoing. So this is going to get very messy and very public.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 11, 2024, 06:24:56 PM
Quote from: Norm-Peterson on December 11, 2024, 06:08:38 PMHearing about players on these expensive foreign trips makes me glad I am just an armchair fan and not someone who actively gives money to the GAA. Imagine your money going to pay for other mens holidays.
In fairness I'd have bought those lads a house after the year they give us, unbelievable. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Captain Obvious on December 11, 2024, 10:28:53 PM
Crossmaglen have appointed former Louth player Shane Lennon as manager. He had close association with Oisín McConville having managed DKIT together.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 11, 2024, 11:05:08 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 11, 2024, 10:28:53 PMCrossmaglen have appointed former Louth player Shane Lennon as manager. He had close association with Oisín McConville having managed DKIT together.
when did Cross last have an outsider? Have they ever?

The Vinny Corey rumours didn't pan out then...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: marty34 on December 11, 2024, 11:10:03 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 11, 2024, 11:05:08 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 11, 2024, 10:28:53 PMCrossmaglen have appointed former Louth player Shane Lennon as manager. He had close association with Oisín McConville having managed DKIT together.
when did Cross last have an outsider? Have they ever?

The Vinny Corey rumours didn't pan out then...

Is Vinny Corey not the Gowna manager now?

After D. Mc Cabe left?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 11, 2024, 11:13:19 PM
Quote from: marty34 on December 11, 2024, 11:10:03 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 11, 2024, 11:05:08 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 11, 2024, 10:28:53 PMCrossmaglen have appointed former Louth player Shane Lennon as manager. He had close association with Oisín McConville having managed DKIT together.
when did Cross last have an outsider? Have they ever?

The Vinny Corey rumours didn't pan out then...

Is Vinny Corey not the Gowna manager now?

After D. Mc Cabe left?
No idea. Just remember their were piles of rumours going around that Cross were about to appoint him, they had to come out and deny it
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on December 12, 2024, 08:37:02 AM
Quote from: Norm-Peterson on December 11, 2024, 06:08:38 PMHearing about players on these expensive foreign trips makes me glad I am just an armchair fan and not someone who actively gives money to the GAA. Imagine your money going to pay for other mens holidays.
The clubs were asked for £2k each which I thought was a disgrace many of the smaller clubs struggling to keep head above water/improve facilities etc. Expensive enough for supporters too to follow the county team with matches every couple of weeks without being asked to put hand in pocket to fund a players partners holiday. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on December 12, 2024, 10:34:26 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 11, 2024, 11:05:08 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 11, 2024, 10:28:53 PMCrossmaglen have appointed former Louth player Shane Lennon as manager. He had close association with Oisín McConville having managed DKIT together.
when did Cross last have an outsider? Have they ever?

The Vinny Corey rumours didn't pan out then...

Vinny was never offered the post. Shane is the first outside manager the club has had. Have had fitness coaches etc but never a no.1. Was a great player but is a very good coach and is fairly local so knows the club well and the ethos. He and Oisín have worked closely together so he would have a strong insight.

Very good appointment on the face of it so looking forward to the years ahead.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 12, 2024, 10:56:26 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on December 12, 2024, 10:34:26 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 11, 2024, 11:05:08 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 11, 2024, 10:28:53 PMCrossmaglen have appointed former Louth player Shane Lennon as manager. He had close association with Oisín McConville having managed DKIT together.
when did Cross last have an outsider? Have they ever?

The Vinny Corey rumours didn't pan out then...

Vinny was never offered the post. Shane is the first outside manager the club has had. Have had fitness coaches etc but never a no.1. Was a great player but is a very good coach and is fairly local so knows the club well and the ethos. He and Oisín have worked closely together so he would have a strong insight.

Very good appointment on the face of it so looking forward to the years ahead.
Fair enough sure you know what rumours are like.

Interesting few years ahead to see how Cross go, the 2 Lurgan teams have massively improved and you'd expect the next few county finals to feature 2 out of the 3. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 12, 2024, 01:40:04 PM
Think CE are a bit out ahead of the rest, though still a fairly open championship.

Cross/Clans who are probably next, along with Madden and Harps.

Don't think any of the rest would be part of the conversation. Possibly Killeavy... maybe Silverbridge.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on December 12, 2024, 01:47:16 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 12, 2024, 01:40:04 PMThink CE are a bit out ahead of the rest, though still a fairly open championship.

Cross/Clans who are probably next, along with Madden and Harps.

Don't think any of the rest would be part of the conversation. Possibly Killeavy... maybe Silverbridge.

I'd agree. I think if CE perform then they are ahead, but the gap isnt too large for the likes of cross, madden, harps and even ourselves. Many games could swing either way.

It'll be all to play for again.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 12, 2024, 02:02:01 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 12, 2024, 01:40:04 PMThink CE are a bit out ahead of the rest, though still a fairly open championship.

Cross/Clans who are probably next, along with Madden and Harps.

Don't think any of the rest would be part of the conversation. Possibly Killeavy... maybe Silverbridge.
Killeavy did push Clanns very close this year and Harps put it up to Clann Eireann well too Cross obviously had a very very tough year as a community off the field as well this year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on December 12, 2024, 02:37:35 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 12, 2024, 02:02:01 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 12, 2024, 01:40:04 PMThink CE are a bit out ahead of the rest, though still a fairly open championship.

Cross/Clans who are probably next, along with Madden and Harps.

Don't think any of the rest would be part of the conversation. Possibly Killeavy... maybe Silverbridge.
Killeavy did push Clanns very close this year and Harps put it up to Clann Eireann well too Cross obviously had a very very tough year as a community off the field as well this year.
Cullyhanna on their day could also cause most sides problems. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 12, 2024, 02:47:57 PM
True but don't see Cullyhanna or Killeavy being able to put back to back performances together against the likes of CE, Cross, Harps etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 12, 2024, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 12, 2024, 02:47:57 PMTrue but don't see Cullyhanna or Killeavy being able to put back to back performances together against the likes of CE, Cross, Harps etc
Yeah agree, but they definitely capable of knocking one of the big teams out, Cullyhanna especially.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on December 12, 2024, 07:24:26 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 12, 2024, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 12, 2024, 02:47:57 PMTrue but don't see Cullyhanna or Killeavy being able to put back to back performances together against the likes of CE, Cross, Harps etc
Yeah agree, but they definitely capable of knocking one of the big teams out, Cullyhanna especially.

Think Kileavy need a win against one of the 'big' teams when it counts to give themselves a bit of confidence. I'd agree about Cullyhanna too but remains to be seen what happens there
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 12, 2024, 08:24:40 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 12, 2024, 07:24:26 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 12, 2024, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 12, 2024, 02:47:57 PMTrue but don't see Cullyhanna or Killeavy being able to put back to back performances together against the likes of CE, Cross, Harps etc
Yeah agree, but they definitely capable of knocking one of the big teams out, Cullyhanna especially.

Think Kileavy need a win against one of the 'big' teams when it counts to give themselves a bit of confidence. I'd agree about Cullyhanna too but remains to be seen what happens there
Yeah you're right about Killeavy I'd say, who knows maybe if Conor O'Neill hadn't been out injured this year they could have beaten Clanns.

Anyway should be a fairly competitive championship over the next few years which can only be a good thing.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 13, 2024, 10:26:18 AM
Lissummons motion passed last night apparently.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on December 13, 2024, 11:55:30 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 12, 2024, 03:37:10 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 12, 2024, 02:47:57 PMTrue but don't see Cullyhanna or Killeavy being able to put back to back performances together against the likes of CE, Cross, Harps etc
Yeah agree, but they definitely capable of knocking one of the big teams out, Cullyhanna especially.
Felt Cullyhanna gave Cross too much respect in the quarter final this year and went in at half time 4 down from memory, when they threw the shackles off and really went for them caused Cross alot of bother. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on December 13, 2024, 12:35:17 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 13, 2024, 10:26:18 AMLissummons motion passed last night apparently.

What was the details of that motion again?  No 2nd teams in the junior or intermediate championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orior on December 13, 2024, 12:36:38 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 13, 2024, 10:26:18 AMLissummons motion passed last night apparently.

What motion?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 13, 2024, 01:57:25 PM
From what I can tell Lissummon put in a motion blocking anymore than 3 IIs teams entering the JFC (or 16 teams overall). And Armagh being a county full of (too many) small clubs with their small club mentality voted in favour (funny they all cry about having to fork out £2k but not a peep when it comes to getting a full vote at convention lol).

All Junior clubs will automatically qualify regardless of league position, 2nds teams will be confined to a Junior B competition (so basically the Reserve championship has just been rebranded)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on December 13, 2024, 02:01:43 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 13, 2024, 01:57:25 PMFrom what I can tell Lissummon put in a motion blocking anymore than 3 IIs teams entering the JFC (or 16 teams overall). And Armagh being a county full of (too many) small clubs with their small club mentality voted in favour (funny they all cry about having to fork out £2k but not a peep when it comes to getting a full vote at convention lol).

All Junior clubs will automatically qualify regardless of league position, 2nds teams will be confined to a Junior B competition (so basically the Reserve championship has just been rebranded)

I think Antrim allowed 2nd and 3rd teams into junior and intermediate a good few years ago, think the problem is it stops smaller clubs from winning things, for example in Antrim a JFC will mean everything to a St Malachys/ Antrim where as it will mean next to nothing to a Cargin/ St Galls. Ive no issue with reserve teams playing league etc but I think Sen/int/Jun champ should be for clubs 1st teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on December 13, 2024, 02:19:36 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 13, 2024, 01:57:25 PMFrom what I can tell Lissummon put in a motion blocking anymore than 3 IIs teams entering the JFC (or 16 teams overall). And Armagh being a county full of (too many) small clubs with their small club mentality voted in favour (funny they all cry about having to fork out £2k but not a peep when it comes to getting a full vote at convention lol).

All Junior clubs will automatically qualify regardless of league position, 2nds teams will be confined to a Junior B competition (so basically the Reserve championship has just been rebranded)

Entry into division 3 Ok for 2nds teams though yeah? 

I also assume that some of the 2nds teams in the intermediate will also be pulled from that championship now too?  Cross and CE for example
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 13, 2024, 02:20:48 PM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on December 13, 2024, 02:01:43 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 13, 2024, 01:57:25 PMFrom what I can tell Lissummon put in a motion blocking anymore than 3 IIs teams entering the JFC (or 16 teams overall). And Armagh being a county full of (too many) small clubs with their small club mentality voted in favour (funny they all cry about having to fork out £2k but not a peep when it comes to getting a full vote at convention lol).

All Junior clubs will automatically qualify regardless of league position, 2nds teams will be confined to a Junior B competition (so basically the Reserve championship has just been rebranded)

I think Antrim allowed 2nd and 3rd teams into junior and intermediate a good few years ago, think the problem is it stops smaller clubs from winning things, for example in Antrim a JFC will mean everything to a St Malachys/ Antrim where as it will mean next to nothing to a Cargin/ St Galls. Ive no issue with reserve teams playing league etc but I think Sen/int/Jun champ should be for clubs 1st teams.
It's a valid concern on the face of it but the reality is in 100+ years of 2nd teams playing Armagh JFC only a handful have won it and only 2 in the last 25 years. When you consider the best club side in Ireland at the time won 1 JFC in their pomp should dispel any notion of 2nd teams coming in to clean up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 13, 2024, 02:25:01 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 13, 2024, 02:19:36 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 13, 2024, 01:57:25 PMFrom what I can tell Lissummon put in a motion blocking anymore than 3 IIs teams entering the JFC (or 16 teams overall). And Armagh being a county full of (too many) small clubs with their small club mentality voted in favour (funny they all cry about having to fork out £2k but not a peep when it comes to getting a full vote at convention lol).

All Junior clubs will automatically qualify regardless of league position, 2nds teams will be confined to a Junior B competition (so basically the Reserve championship has just been rebranded)

Entry into division 3 Ok for 2nds teams though yeah? 

I also assume that some of the 2nds teams in the intermediate will also be pulled from that championship now too?  Cross and CE for example

As far as I know. The motion is on the Armagh Twitter. I think Cross II got relegated to Junior anyway, but I imagine CE II current intermediate status doesn't affect Lissummon et al's ambitions (yet).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 13, 2024, 03:07:33 PM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 13, 2024, 02:19:36 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 13, 2024, 01:57:25 PMFrom what I can tell Lissummon put in a motion blocking anymore than 3 IIs teams entering the JFC (or 16 teams overall). And Armagh being a county full of (too many) small clubs with their small club mentality voted in favour (funny they all cry about having to fork out £2k but not a peep when it comes to getting a full vote at convention lol).

All Junior clubs will automatically qualify regardless of league position, 2nds teams will be confined to a Junior B competition (so basically the Reserve championship has just been rebranded)

Entry into division 3 Ok for 2nds teams though yeah? 

I also assume that some of the 2nds teams in the intermediate will also be pulled from that championship now too?  Cross and CE for example

Cross went down this year I think. I'd say Clann Eireann will be allowed work away.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on December 13, 2024, 03:21:06 PM
Yeah i see that proposal and it only mentions junior, so you'd assume CE are OK to continue in the intermediate, because no club has complained. A very strange setup.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on December 13, 2024, 03:24:03 PM
And does that leave it that Cross 2nds will play reserve championship, but if they win 3a they'll be back in the intermediate championship?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 13, 2024, 04:05:37 PM
Top 3 seconds teams in the league will still play junior championship and you'd imagine Cross will be one of them.

And yeah they'd be intermediate the following year and playing in 2b league.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on December 16, 2024, 09:42:37 AM
Quote from: general_lee on December 13, 2024, 01:57:25 PMFrom what I can tell Lissummon put in a motion blocking anymore than 3 IIs teams entering the JFC (or 16 teams overall). And Armagh being a county full of (too many) small clubs with their small club mentality voted in favour (funny they all cry about having to fork out £2k but not a peep when it comes to getting a full vote at convention lol).

All Junior clubs will automatically qualify regardless of league position, 2nds teams will be confined to a Junior B competition (so basically the Reserve championship has just been rebranded)

Harsh in the extreme. The reality is that all Clubs have a right to put forward a motion that is in their own best interests, and in this case it is not too much of a stretch to say that this issue could be one that could potentially end up seeing smaller Clubs fold. Interests do not get much greater than that.

The Lissummon delegate spoke brilliantly on behalf of the motion, and made it clear that the motion was based on a joint view of six or seven other Clubs, with whom they had been in touch, prior to the meeting.

Let's call it like it is - if the thing was being done right, there would be no need for this motion, as all Reserve Teams would be playing in their own Reserve league. That is not the fault of the Lissummons of this world. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on December 16, 2024, 11:10:59 AM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on December 16, 2024, 09:42:37 AM
Quote from: general_lee on December 13, 2024, 01:57:25 PMFrom what I can tell Lissummon put in a motion blocking anymore than 3 IIs teams entering the JFC (or 16 teams overall). And Armagh being a county full of (too many) small clubs with their small club mentality voted in favour (funny they all cry about having to fork out £2k but not a peep when it comes to getting a full vote at convention lol).

All Junior clubs will automatically qualify regardless of league position, 2nds teams will be confined to a Junior B competition (so basically the Reserve championship has just been rebranded)

Harsh in the extreme. The reality is that all Clubs have a right to put forward a motion that is in their own best interests, and in this case it is not too much of a stretch to say that this issue could be one that could potentially end up seeing smaller Clubs fold. Interests do not get much greater than that.

The Lissummon delegate spoke brilliantly on behalf of the motion, and made it clear that the motion was based on a joint view of six or seven other Clubs, with whom they had been in touch, prior to the meeting.

Let's call it like it is - if the thing was being done right, there would be no need for this motion, as all Reserve Teams would be playing in their own Reserve league. That is not the fault of the Lissummons of this world. 



nor is it the fault of the CEs or Cross of this world
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 16, 2024, 11:22:10 AM
Hopefully the motion will kick the county board into gear and they'll sort a proper reserve league so lads can get football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on December 16, 2024, 11:26:59 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 16, 2024, 11:10:59 AMnor is it the fault of the CEs or Cross of this world

No it's not, and yet I see them both doing very well out of the current arrangement.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on December 16, 2024, 12:29:25 PM

I wouldn't be close enough to the detail of this but it seems very short sighted and defeatest from those small clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on December 16, 2024, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 16, 2024, 12:29:25 PMI wouldn't be close enough to the detail of this but it seems very short sighted and defeatest from those small clubs.

Why?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 16, 2024, 01:18:08 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 16, 2024, 12:29:25 PMI wouldn't be close enough to the detail of this but it seems very short sighted and defeatest from those small clubs.
Not really, think they need to be playing actual junior clubs rather than being hammered by a senior clubs second team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on December 16, 2024, 01:26:51 PM

These players are all Junior standard players surely, irrespective of what club they are playing with?

Why do Lissummon, etc. feel Junior players from other clubs have an advantage other than anything they create by the sweat of their brow?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Saffron_sam20 on December 16, 2024, 02:19:27 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 16, 2024, 01:26:51 PMThese players are all Junior standard players surely, irrespective of what club they are playing with?

Why do Lissummon, etc. feel Junior players from other clubs have an advantage other than anything they create by the sweat of their brow?

some players on the fringe of a top senior team might be well above junior standard, equally you could have players who for whatever reason cant commit to the senior team. Think it's unfair on junior clubs, championships should be for first teams only.

the bigger issue is clubs not taking reserve football seriously, run the reserve championships properly and there be no issue, though in fairness I think every single county has the same issue with reserve champ.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general on December 16, 2024, 02:26:49 PM
Tyrone & Down do premier reserve leagues & championships just fine
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on December 16, 2024, 02:50:11 PM
Quote from: Saffron_sam20 on December 16, 2024, 02:19:27 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 16, 2024, 01:26:51 PMThese players are all Junior standard players surely, irrespective of what club they are playing with?

Why do Lissummon, etc. feel Junior players from other clubs have an advantage other than anything they create by the sweat of their brow?

some players on the fringe of a top senior team might be well above junior standard, equally you could have players who for whatever reason cant commit to the senior team. Think it's unfair on junior clubs, championships should be for first teams only.

the bigger issue is clubs not taking reserve football seriously, run the reserve championships properly and there be no issue, though in fairness I think every single county has the same issue with reserve champ.

Of course, but the flip of that is that we have county players on "smaller" junior clubs.  That wouldnt be the case on a 2nds team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 16, 2024, 03:39:59 PM
Quote from: general on December 16, 2024, 02:26:49 PMTyrone & Down do premier reserve leagues & championships just fine
Do they though?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 16, 2024, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 16, 2024, 03:39:59 PM
Quote from: general on December 16, 2024, 02:26:49 PMTyrone & Down do premier reserve leagues & championships just fine
Do they though?
i'd be in favour of playing them before the senior game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 16, 2024, 07:11:51 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on December 16, 2024, 09:42:37 AM
Quote from: general_lee on December 13, 2024, 01:57:25 PMFrom what I can tell Lissummon put in a motion blocking anymore than 3 IIs teams entering the JFC (or 16 teams overall). And Armagh being a county full of (too many) small clubs with their small club mentality voted in favour (funny they all cry about having to fork out £2k but not a peep when it comes to getting a full vote at convention lol).

All Junior clubs will automatically qualify regardless of league position, 2nds teams will be confined to a Junior B competition (so basically the Reserve championship has just been rebranded)

Harsh in the extreme. The reality is that all Clubs have a right to put forward a motion that is in their own best interests, and in this case it is not too much of a stretch to say that this issue could be one that could potentially end up seeing smaller Clubs fold. Interests do not get much greater than that.

The Lissummon delegate spoke brilliantly on behalf of the motion, and made it clear that the motion was based on a joint view of six or seven other Clubs, with whom they had been in touch, prior to the meeting.

Let's call it like it is - if the thing was being done right, there would be no need for this motion, as all Reserve Teams would be playing in their own Reserve league. That is not the fault of the Lissummons of this world. 


I don't think it's harsh at all. Why should footballers be held back because a handful of junior clubs don't like the idea of playing a IIs team? It goes against the ethos of promoting our games. Clubs have entered IIs teams for decades, how that suddenly impacts on rural clubs folding is beyond me. Was there much opposition to Killeavy IIIs (or Killean to you and me) restarting? Or is an easy 4 points nothing to get annoyed over?

If CE, Cross or anyone else is capable of fielding a strong second string that can compete in the upper end of Junior or even Intermediate football, why shouldn't they? Why should they be perennially restricted to playing other reserve teams? Is it a pride thing? Are they embarrassed?

CE humbled a few teams in both Junior and Intermediate, including a now senior team for 2025. If some people in this county had their way those CE players would be confined to only ever playing reserve football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on December 16, 2024, 07:23:24 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 16, 2024, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 16, 2024, 03:39:59 PM
Quote from: general on December 16, 2024, 02:26:49 PMTyrone & Down do premier reserve leagues & championships just fine
Do they though?
i'd be in favour of playing them before the senior game
that's going to struggle to work if games are continued to be played on Friday nights especially in March and April.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 16, 2024, 07:35:43 PM
Quote from: statto on December 16, 2024, 07:23:24 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 16, 2024, 04:05:27 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 16, 2024, 03:39:59 PM
Quote from: general on December 16, 2024, 02:26:49 PMTyrone & Down do premier reserve leagues & championships just fine
Do they though?
i'd be in favour of playing them before the senior game
that's going to struggle to work if games are continued to be played on Friday nights especially in March and April.
Hadn't thought of that bit lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on December 17, 2024, 08:04:09 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 16, 2024, 01:26:51 PMThese players are all Junior standard players surely, irrespective of what club they are playing with?

Why do Lissummon, etc. feel Junior players from other clubs have an advantage other than anything they create by the sweat of their brow?

Population, and with that, size of Club (playing membership) and associated resources. Many of these Clubs putting Reserve Teams into the Junior will have population catchments far beyond many of the Junior Clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on December 17, 2024, 01:54:21 PM

I really don't think that's an issue. If a club has 20 - 24 players to play in the Junior league I don't see a lot of difference really. A seconds team will probably find it harder to find coaches, somewhere to train and support generally if clubs are investing in a senior team.

As someone has mentioned, there could be county standard players in the first teams but some of the second teams i'm aware of would be very far down the food chain trying to flesh out teams and subs week to week.

As is not unusual within the GAA, the latest event tends to be accepted as the norm and there is a mad reaction to CE's success. Take a step back and look at the 99% over the duration of all of this.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on December 17, 2024, 03:10:20 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 17, 2024, 01:54:21 PMI really don't think that's an issue. If a club has 20 - 24 players to play in the Junior league I don't see a lot of difference really. A seconds team will probably find it harder to find coaches, somewhere to train and support generally if clubs are investing in a senior team.

The likelihood is that the seconds team will be part of a much larger group in terms of numbers. Clubs with two teams are bound to have 60+ players to pick from. The players from a second team will be playing with and against much better players than they normally would during the league, inside Club training. The support they receive in terms of coaching, strength and conditioning, fitness, diet etc, is likely to be far superior to their Junior equivalent.

Quote from: DuffleKing on December 17, 2024, 01:54:21 PMAs is not unusual within the GAA, the latest event tends to be accepted as the norm and there is a mad reaction to CE's success. Take a step back and look at the 99% over the duration of all of this.

This has nothing to do with CE's success, and has nothing to do with the norm. This is an unprecedented situation of 7/8/9 seconds teams now playing Junior football. Clubs are now putting a second team into the All County League because as it stands, 'B' football is close to finishing. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on December 17, 2024, 03:22:54 PM

The first part of this would be miles off. Junior players are not training with club senior teams if that senior team has any type of ambition.

So Cross junior players are training week in and week out with Oisin, Rian, etc.? Not a chance they're anywhere near a senior set up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: samuel maguire on December 17, 2024, 03:31:51 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 17, 2024, 03:22:54 PMThe first part of this would be miles off. Junior players are not training with club senior teams if that senior team has any type of ambition.

So Cross junior players are training week in and week out with Oisin, Rian, etc.? Not a chance they're anywhere near a senior set up.

Maybe not every single member of the seconds team but i would be fairly confident in saying that there would be a lot dipping in and out from the firsts teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on December 17, 2024, 03:32:28 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 17, 2024, 03:22:54 PMThe first part of this would be miles off. Junior players are not training with club senior teams if that senior team has any type of ambition.

So Cross junior players are training week in and week out with Oisin, Rian, etc.? Not a chance they're anywhere near a senior set up.

I referred to a likelihood, as there will be nothing definitive about this. It would be my belief that for the most part, these players will be mixing with Senior players. Throwing in the O'Neills is merely an attempt to take the conversation down a rabbit hole.

I note you chose not to follow up your assertion about the influence of CE's success on this discussion.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on December 17, 2024, 03:36:58 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 17, 2024, 03:22:54 PMThe first part of this would be miles off. Junior players are not training with club senior teams if that senior team has any type of ambition.

So Cross junior players are training week in and week out with Oisin, Rian, etc.? Not a chance they're anywhere near a senior set up.

Agree with this. There are players that'll inhibit senior team training/preparation, and wouldn't be asked to attend.

Most senior teams train 2 nights a week at least, some players opting in for a junior team wouldn't be prepared to do that either
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 17, 2024, 03:48:02 PM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on December 17, 2024, 03:36:58 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on December 17, 2024, 03:22:54 PMThe first part of this would be miles off. Junior players are not training with club senior teams if that senior team has any type of ambition.

So Cross junior players are training week in and week out with Oisin, Rian, etc.? Not a chance they're anywhere near a senior set up.

Agree with this. There are players that'll inhibit senior team training/preparation, and wouldn't be asked to attend.

Most senior teams train 2 nights a week at least, some players opting in for a junior team wouldn't be prepared to do that either
I'd say any junior team with any sort of ambition train twice a week would they not?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 17, 2024, 05:32:49 PM
I think a lot of it should come down to grading as in my experience big clubs abuse it. I managed a small u14 team last season and 3 times we played "2nd" teams on a night that the firsts weren't playing...
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Mick Bustin on December 17, 2024, 08:51:32 PM
My club is one of the ones considering entering a Junior team (or at least were - I am now unsure it will happen.)

We have a lot of youth coming through and with more to come in the next few years but realistically the majority of them won't see much game time for the senior team, not any time soon.

So the current prospect for a talented 18/19/20 year old with our club is to slog it out training with the seniors but with little to no chance of serious game time.

We played about four meaningful games at reserve level this year. The other games didn't really test our players, and one or two ended in cricket scores. There were a couple of DNFs added into the mix.

From our perspective, we aren't looking to walk to a junior championship or an easy league title. I don't even think we'd have the players to compete for it. All we want is to expose players to regular, consistent, competitive football instead of the lottery of reserve football. We lost two or three really good young players to soccer last year and I have no doubt that if we had ran a Junior team last year we would have kept them on board.

I understand that junior clubs have genuine concerns but it is still disappointing how the clubs voted last week. Senior clubs shouldn't be penalised for having the resources and ambition to enter a second team in the league structure.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ClubScene13 on December 17, 2024, 09:32:09 PM
Player retention must be an issue to not be able to play a premier reserve league?

In Tyrone last year you're looking at double headers on primarily Friday nights and by a quick look at our website it appears 80% of games were played.

In a 15 game season that's 11 or 12 matches on avg. Might be some cricket scores as well but usually not too bad, only in a top 6 v bottom 4 scenario perhaps.

There was a right slap conceded in the last 2 weeks of the season and some games postponed that ended up never being played, but vast majority of reserve league goes to plan most years.

Intermediate and junior reserve league gets played in same format but there is definitely more games conceded for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Mick Bustin on December 17, 2024, 11:10:05 PM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on December 17, 2024, 09:32:09 PMIn Tyrone last year you're looking at double headers on primarily Friday nights and by a quick look at our website it appears 80% of games were played.

In a 15 game season that's 11 or 12 matches on avg. Might be some cricket scores as well but usually not too bad, only in a top 6 v bottom 4 scenario perhaps.

There was a right slap conceded in the last 2 weeks of the season and some games postponed that ended up never being played, but vast majority of reserve league goes to plan most years.

Intermediate and junior reserve league gets played in same format but there is definitely more games conceded for obvious reasons.
I've looked at the Tyrone Reserve League and it looks to exhibit the exact same symptoms as Armagh - some teams pay lip service for one reason or another while other teams consistently field and fulfill fixtures. Some clubs, despite their Division 1 status, don't have the numbers or resources to compete with their peers while others are more than capable.

Quote from: ClubScene13 on December 17, 2024, 09:32:09 PMPlayer retention must be an issue to not be able to play a premier reserve league?
Don't think that's an issue, I can't imagine Clann Eireann, Crossmaglen or even Killeavy wanting to pull their teams from Intermediate B, Junior A and Junior B to play in a "premier reserve league" that may or may not prove successful.


Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ClubScene13 on December 18, 2024, 03:26:28 PM
That's absolute bollox - we made it up to 10 days left in the league season last year and Eglish were the only club to concede more than one game (3)? Now you have Killyclogher showing up as only playing 11 of their 15 games - that's because they won Reserve championship and fixtures kept being postponed which ultimately the county board never rescheduled. I can see why, a random reserve league game is not really top priority when most clubs have got their fill with a good 12-15 games. Total bollox on lip service, the games are played.

Must be an issue though if half the senior clubs can't get a team together to play a reserve game
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Mick Bustin on December 19, 2024, 09:28:16 AM
Quote from: ClubScene13 on December 18, 2024, 03:26:28 PMThat's absolute bollox - we made it up to 10 days left in the league season last year and Eglish were the only club to concede more than one game (3)? Now you have Killyclogher showing up as only playing 11 of their 15 games - that's because they won Reserve championship and fixtures kept being postponed which ultimately the county board never rescheduled. I can see why, a random reserve league game is not really top priority when most clubs have got their fill with a good 12-15 games. Total bollox on lip service, the games are played.

Must be an issue though if half the senior clubs can't get a team together to play a reserve game

I have highlighted the absolute definition of lip service. Add in a few cricket scores, another few DNFs and you've got a carbon copy of the Armagh reserve leagues.

As far as I am aware, all senior clubs in Armagh fielded either a reserve team, a 2nds team or both. The issue is some clubs field a team for the sake of fielding, others have to take it a bit more serious.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 19, 2024, 10:20:08 AM
Would amalgamations work for reserve teams? Most senior clubs would probably have at least few lads that are decent but not getting games for the first team, but then maybe have to drag lads out of the house to make up numbers to fulfil a reserve fixture. If you joined a couple of teams you'd leave the reserve league more competitive. Obviously leave Cross/Clann Eireann on their own.

Would it work?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on December 19, 2024, 12:45:54 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on December 16, 2024, 11:26:59 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 16, 2024, 11:10:59 AMnor is it the fault of the CEs or Cross of this world

No it's not, and yet I see them both doing very well out of the current arrangement.

which isnt a problem
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orchard1 on December 19, 2024, 02:37:36 PM
To clairfy some of the myths surrouding the Lissummon motion:

The motion reads as follows:

Amend – Football League Regulation 4
Championship Format

Junior Football Championship shall have no more than 16 teams. All Junior "first" teams will automatically qualify, along with the highest finishing placed 2nd teams, based on the results at the conclusion of the Junior League until the 16 teams are reached.

Any Club 2nd team who doesn't qualify for the Junior Football Championship, will qualify to play in the Junior B Football Championship, the format will be decided based on entries. Teams will be guaranteed at least 2 games.


The motion passed at the convention last week, with a number of senior clubs speaking out to support, as well as the ccc. One of the clubs who spoke in support was Silverbridge, who are putting in a seconds team this year themselves. Their aim is to give boys meaningful fixtures that the reserve league/championship is currently not providing. The Lissummon motion does not take football away from anyone. All seconds teams will be competing in the Junior league. It only comes in to play for Championship where the number of seconds teams competing in the Junior championship will be limited to 3 as the 13 authentic Junior clubs will take their positions first. A Junior B/Junior Shield championship will be provided for all those seconds teams remaining - Again providing competitive fixtures.

Crossmaglen spoke against the motion and also said it would be taking football away from boys. Again incorrect. Crossmaglen will be competing in Junior A this year. By default they will be competing in the Junior championship because they will finish higher in the leagues than any of the seconds teams playing in Junior B. The same situation for St. Peters seconds.

Clann Eireann seconds aren't affected either as they already have a position in the intermediate championship.

Teams like Lissummon, Clady, Dorsey etc are scrambling from year to year to make sure a panel of 20 players is put in place for the start of each season. One injury to a key player, one more emigration to Australia, one more retirement of a club stalwart can seriously impact a small rural club. The additional panel numbers simply aren't there to absorb that impact.

Put these boys out against a seconds team and let them suffer a 10 plus point defeat & see how easily morale is depleted.

We admire the likes of Clann Eireann and only wish we had the headache of having too many numbers and not enough jerseys. But where these urban clubs are getting progressively stronger and growing in size, the rural clubs are becoming increasingly depleted year after year.

Until you've served on a committee of a small rural club in Junior B, you genuinely can have no idea how hard it is to keep the doors open & get enough boys in jerseys to fulfil fixtures week on week. We work as hard to provide as much as any other club. We're just doing it with a lot less people & a lot less facilities than some of our larger counterparts. I certainly don't think this can be defined as "small club mentality"

The Lissummon motion doesn't take football away from anyone. It just leaves the playing field in the junior championship slightly less of an uphill battle.

The general feeling of the junior clubs who took part in the round table discussion was that the end goal is for a seperate league & championship for seconds teams would be established. We realise that this cannot happen overnight as it would require an overhaul of the current footballing structures/reserve football etc.

But the discussion at the convention certainly opened the doors for that & the ccc awknowledged that they had a large part to play in the failings of the reserve competitions.

Hopefully the next year will see some groundwork from the ccc on the matter.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ClubScene13 on December 19, 2024, 02:45:48 PM
They were postponed as reserve championship was ongoing midweek and as KC kept winning, their reserve league games were getting postponed. Wasn't many DNF's as I've already said - but you'd know more than me.

Reading that motion by Lissummon I don't know how you can argue with it looks bang on to me
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 19, 2024, 03:27:23 PM
I can't say I agree with the Lissummon motion at all.

I think it's an over the top reaction and being a county of mainly small rural clubs (with their small club mentality) has received majority backing.

2nds teams should be allowed into the league & championship structures to find their level over a couple of years. Some like CE & Cross will dip into intermediate, others like Killeavy and Madden will stay near the very bottom.

I've heard enough sob stories about how hard it is to field, how many martyrs there are keeping things ticking over, as if this isn't the case in every single GAA club in the country. Yes bigger clubs may have more volunteers, but they also have more players to cater for. For every player that leaves a small rural club, multiply it x10 for an urban club - it's not really a luxury if you can't provide football for your players and they all leave after minor. At the end of the day the ethos of the GAA is promote our national games and if the best a big club can offer their players is a glorified B league you'll see the same issues arise in no time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 19, 2024, 03:43:57 PM
When a 2nds team plays in a league, what are the rules in Armagh with regard the number of graded players that they won't be allowed to use?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 19, 2024, 03:51:21 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 19, 2024, 03:43:57 PMWhen a 2nds team plays in a league, what are the rules in Armagh with regard the number of graded players that they won't be allowed to use?
I think you've to name 24 players that can't play 2nds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 19, 2024, 03:52:46 PM
That's a good lot to be fair. There's a few tournaments in Antrim where graded players aren't allowed into and I think it might be 12.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 19, 2024, 03:58:27 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 19, 2024, 03:51:21 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 19, 2024, 03:43:57 PMWhen a 2nds team plays in a league, what are the rules in Armagh with regard the number of graded players that they won't be allowed to use?
I think you've to name 24 players that can't play 2nds.
Yeah think thats it.

Still leaves Clann Eireann with an awful pile of talent outside that 24 who can dip in and out of either team.

We need to get them Lurgan boys back on the bucky or they'll takeover altogether.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orchard1 on December 19, 2024, 04:32:16 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 19, 2024, 03:27:23 PMI can't say I agree with the Lissummon motion at all.

I think it's an over the top reaction and being a county of mainly small rural clubs (with their small club mentality) has received majority backing.

2nds teams should be allowed into the league & championship structures to find their level over a couple of years. Some like CE & Cross will dip into intermediate, others like Killeavy and Madden will stay near the very bottom.

I've heard enough sob stories about how hard it is to field, how many martyrs there are keeping things ticking over, as if this isn't the case in every single GAA club in the country. Yes bigger clubs may have more volunteers, but they also have more players to cater for. For every player that leaves a small rural club, multiply it x10 for an urban club - it's not really a luxury if you can't provide football for your players and they all leave after minor. At the end of the day the ethos of the GAA is promote our national games and if the best a big club can offer their players is a glorified B league you'll see the same issues arise in no time.


It's not an over the top reaction when it's been brewing over the last number of years.

Nobody is asking you to agree with it. The majority of delegates at the convention last week did & thats all that matters.

And they aren't sob stories - They're real life situations that small clubs find themselves in - I hope to God your own club never falls on hard times so you wont have to experience being a "martyr" for the cause.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Orchard1 on December 19, 2024, 04:33:47 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 19, 2024, 03:43:57 PMWhen a 2nds team plays in a league, what are the rules in Armagh with regard the number of graded players that they won't be allowed to use?

You have to name 24 - But from past experience I know that more often than not, half of the 24 are made up of players out injured for the year, no longer playing etc. So a pointless exercise a lot of the time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 19, 2024, 04:46:24 PM
Quote from: Orchard1 on December 19, 2024, 04:32:16 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 19, 2024, 03:27:23 PMI can't say I agree with the Lissummon motion at all.

I think it's an over the top reaction and being a county of mainly small rural clubs (with their small club mentality) has received majority backing.

2nds teams should be allowed into the league & championship structures to find their level over a couple of years. Some like CE & Cross will dip into intermediate, others like Killeavy and Madden will stay near the very bottom.

I've heard enough sob stories about how hard it is to field, how many martyrs there are keeping things ticking over, as if this isn't the case in every single GAA club in the country. Yes bigger clubs may have more volunteers, but they also have more players to cater for. For every player that leaves a small rural club, multiply it x10 for an urban club - it's not really a luxury if you can't provide football for your players and they all leave after minor. At the end of the day the ethos of the GAA is promote our national games and if the best a big club can offer their players is a glorified B league you'll see the same issues arise in no time.


It's not an over the top reaction when it's been brewing over the last number of years.

Nobody is asking you to agree with it. The majority of delegates at the convention last week did & thats all that matters.

And they aren't sob stories - They're real life situations that small clubs find themselves in - I hope to God your own club never falls on hard times so you wont have to experience being a "martyr" for the cause.
It absolutely is over the top. Kneejerk reaction to the say the least. 2nds teams have come and gone the past 10-15 years and the world didn't end. None of them within a hound's growl of even challenging for a JFC title. CE win a junior championship (the second time a 2nd team has won one in 20+ years) and we have motions barring 2nds teams and tales of woe that EVERY GAA club big or small knows all to well.

My own club has had enough hard times to give any other club a run for their money. We even faced one of the 2nds teams this year! We're still ploughing away and we know the only people that can keep us in the right direction are OUR club members and what goes on in OUR club - not what others are doing.

Again you're correct all that matters is what was agreed last week but it still reeks of pettiness under the guise of genuine concern.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on December 19, 2024, 04:52:35 PM
Quote from: Orchard1 on December 19, 2024, 04:33:47 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 19, 2024, 03:43:57 PMWhen a 2nds team plays in a league, what are the rules in Armagh with regard the number of graded players that they won't be allowed to use?

You have to name 24 - But from past experience I know that more often than not, half of the 24 are made up of players out injured for the year, no longer playing etc. So a pointless exercise a lot of the time.
I had visibility of the Crossmaglen and Clann Eireann 24 named players last year and that generally wasn't the case.  Clann Eireann actually had a lad who was named with the firsts for the league then dropped down to the seconds team for championship when the county men came back and wasn't starting in the knock out stages of intermediate championship for the seconds which shows their strength in depth. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 19, 2024, 05:24:42 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 19, 2024, 03:27:23 PMI can't say I agree with the Lissummon motion at all.

I think it's an over the top reaction and being a county of mainly small rural clubs (with their small club mentality) has received majority backing.

2nds teams should be allowed into the league & championship structures to find their level over a couple of years. Some like CE & Cross will dip into intermediate, others like Killeavy and Madden will stay near the very bottom.

I've heard enough sob stories about how hard it is to field, how many martyrs there are keeping things ticking over, as if this isn't the case in every single GAA club in the country. Yes bigger clubs may have more volunteers, but they also have more players to cater for. For every player that leaves a small rural club, multiply it x10 for an urban club - it's not really a luxury if you can't provide football for your players and they all leave after minor. At the end of the day the ethos of the GAA is promote our national games and if the best a big club can offer their players is a glorified B league you'll see the same issues arise in no time.

Think thats an awfully out of touch comment to make. Agree with Orchard1
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 19, 2024, 05:35:58 PM
Not out of touch at all. It's actually quite irrelevant - every club has their struggles including my own. We can barely field at underage (Div3 u14-u18). We've been Junior for much of our history. All things considered we do rightly at senior level but I wouldn't have what other clubs are doing as a barrier or hindrance to us being successful.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: SaffronSports on December 19, 2024, 05:39:13 PM
Quote from: Orchard1 on December 19, 2024, 04:33:47 PM
Quote from: SaffronSports on December 19, 2024, 03:43:57 PMWhen a 2nds team plays in a league, what are the rules in Armagh with regard the number of graded players that they won't be allowed to use?

You have to name 24 - But from past experience I know that more often than not, half of the 24 are made up of players out injured for the year, no longer playing etc. So a pointless exercise a lot of the time.

I've noticed that one myself in Antrim. Know a team had a lad who lived in another county, was pretty much a full time coach with various teams etc and was down as a graded player. Maybe a slight adjustment could be made that once a player makes X appearances for the team above they are ineligible too regarding of grading.

I think young lads developing will take more playing a match against a junior clubs first team than a reserve match a lot of the time but just think the junior clubs have to be playing against genuine 2nd team players and the other nonsense is put aside.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 20, 2024, 08:25:27 AM
So what teams will be making up this new fangled Junior B championship?

Dromintee II, Silverbridge II, Madden II and?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 20, 2024, 08:42:02 AM
Quote from: general_lee on December 20, 2024, 08:25:27 AMSo what teams will be making up this new fangled Junior B championship?

Dromintee II, Silverbridge II, Madden II and?
Depends how many actually enter.

Is the junior b championship also going to include teams who finished bottom of their championship groups? I know there was talk before of a competition for those teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 20, 2024, 09:03:18 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 20, 2024, 08:42:02 AM
Quote from: general_lee on December 20, 2024, 08:25:27 AMSo what teams will be making up this new fangled Junior B championship?

Dromintee II, Silverbridge II, Madden II and?
Depends how many actually enter.

Is the junior b championship also going to include teams who finished bottom of their championship groups? I know there was talk before of a competition for those teams.
Well, that's what I'm hinting at.
The motion says nothing other than teams are guaranteed two games and format will be decided based on who enters. So we could potentially be looking at a 3 team Junior B Championship...  ::)
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 20, 2024, 09:07:13 AM
Quote from: general_lee on December 20, 2024, 09:03:18 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 20, 2024, 08:42:02 AM
Quote from: general_lee on December 20, 2024, 08:25:27 AMSo what teams will be making up this new fangled Junior B championship?

Dromintee II, Silverbridge II, Madden II and?
Depends how many actually enter.

Is the junior b championship also going to include teams who finished bottom of their championship groups? I know there was talk before of a competition for those teams.
Well, that's what I'm hinting at.
The motion says nothing other than teams are guaranteed two games and format will be decided based on who enters. So we could potentially be looking at a 3 team Junior B Championship...  ::)
Clann Na Gael?

Think the 4 teams that finish bottom of the championship groups should be included too, likely Killean plus 3.

Cross
Madden
Killeavey
St Peters
Dromintee
Silverbridge
Clan Na Gael?

Any other seconds teams rumoured to be joining? Clann Eireann obviously in intermediate.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 20, 2024, 10:11:51 AM
Cross II & St Peter's II are Division 3A so are guaranteed a place in the JFC for 2025 as they'll make up 2 of the 3 best placed teams.

That leaves Killeavy II and Madden II (if they re-enter a team).

The only club I have seen publicly confirm as entering a 2nds team for 2025 is Dromintee.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 20, 2024, 10:40:59 AM
Quote from: general_lee on December 20, 2024, 10:11:51 AMCross II & St Peter's II are Division 3A so are guaranteed a place in the JFC for 2025 as they'll make up 2 of the 3 best placed teams.

That leaves Killeavy II and Madden II (if they re-enter a team).

The only club I have seen publicly confirm as entering a 2nds team for 2025 is Dromintee.
I think Silverbridge spoke in favour of Lissummons motion and said they were planning on entering a seconds team.

St Peters seemed to do rightly so would imagine they'll enter again, Madden struggled abit but can see them going again as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on December 20, 2024, 10:47:08 AM
I have to say, I dont get it. 2nds teams can still enter the junior league, but only the best 3 can compete in the junior championship.  How does that solve any perceived "small" club difficulty with competition and winning things?

I think there seems to be some sort of fear that these 2nds teams will be filled with top quality D1 players. The reality is that they will largely be made up of young lads that the clubs hope to not lose, lads who have never been good enough for the 1st team, and lads who are no longer capable of 1st team.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 20, 2024, 10:48:43 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 20, 2024, 10:47:08 AMI have to say, I dont get it. 2nds teams can still enter the junior league, but only the best 3 can compete in the junior championship.  How does that solve any perceived "small" club difficulty with competition and winning things?

I think there seems to be some sort of fear that these 2nds teams will be filled with top quality D1 players. The reality is that they will largely be made up of young lads that the clubs hope to not lose, lads who have never been good enough for the 1st team, and lads who are no longer capable of 1st team.
Seen enough of Clann Eireann to know that is simply not true.

Long term aim is to get them out of the championship completely but that will take time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on December 20, 2024, 10:52:32 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 20, 2024, 10:48:43 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 20, 2024, 10:47:08 AMI have to say, I dont get it. 2nds teams can still enter the junior league, but only the best 3 can compete in the junior championship.  How does that solve any perceived "small" club difficulty with competition and winning things?

I think there seems to be some sort of fear that these 2nds teams will be filled with top quality D1 players. The reality is that they will largely be made up of young lads that the clubs hope to not lose, lads who have never been good enough for the 1st team, and lads who are no longer capable of 1st team.
Seen enough of Clann Eireann to know that is simply not true.

Long term aim is to get them out of the championship completely but that will take time.

I'd say that they are an anomaly.

I could understand totally removing them more, albeit I wouldnt agree with it considering the shambles of reserve football.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 20, 2024, 10:57:55 AM
Clann Éireann are a prime example of why 2nds teams should be allowed to play in the all county leagues. Yes they might be an anomaly with a massive panel but they've another minor championship team coming through and need to provide their players with competitive football.

Someone has already mentioned it but they had at least one player that played league with the senior team that couldn't get a game come championship for the 2nds.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 20, 2024, 11:07:05 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 20, 2024, 10:52:32 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on December 20, 2024, 10:48:43 AM
Quote from: lurganblue on December 20, 2024, 10:47:08 AMI have to say, I dont get it. 2nds teams can still enter the junior league, but only the best 3 can compete in the junior championship.  How does that solve any perceived "small" club difficulty with competition and winning things?

I think there seems to be some sort of fear that these 2nds teams will be filled with top quality D1 players. The reality is that they will largely be made up of young lads that the clubs hope to not lose, lads who have never been good enough for the 1st team, and lads who are no longer capable of 1st team.
Seen enough of Clann Eireann to know that is simply not true.

Long term aim is to get them out of the championship completely but that will take time.

I'd say that they are an anomaly.

I could understand totally removing them more, albeit I wouldnt agree with it considering the shambles of reserve football.
Thats the idea, but obviously with the aim of also sorting the reserve league to give those lads proper football. Completely understand where you lads are coming from by the way and totally agree that bigger clubs need an option for lads outside their first 20/25 who are getting game time for the senior team.

Clann Eireann would probably have a fair amount of players not getting game time who would start for a lot of if not most senior teams, certainly intermediate anyway I would say.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on December 20, 2024, 11:51:28 AM
So the issue Lissummon and others had is the 2nds teams take away their chances of winning a championship? How many seconds teams have won a junior in recent memory? How many have Lissumon won?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Mick Bustin on December 20, 2024, 12:00:00 PM
Here is a rundown of my own club's season in a 9-team reserve league.

Match 1: Won by 39 pts.
Match 2: Won by 7 pts.
Match 3: Won by 22 pts.
Match 4: W/over, other team DNF
Match 5: Won by 13 pts.
Match 6: W/over, other team DNF
Match 7: DNF (match refixed at short notice day after a senior match)
Match 8: Won by 28 pts.

League semi-final: Won by 6 pts.
League final: Lost by 3 pts (last minute goal).

Championship
Prelim. Round: W/over, other team DNF
Round 1: Won by 18 pts.
Q/F: Lost by 4 pts against eventual winners.

From our perspective, we weren't intent on "cooking the books" to try and win or compete for an "easy" Junior title as someone above has cynically suggested.

I'd hazard a guess that we only just have the numbers to make a 2nds team viable and I imagine our "stronger" reserve players will be invited/told to tog out for the seniors. If we do press ahead with it, it will be with the intention of having regular, competitive games for our players and nothing else. I imagine this is the same for any of the other clubs that intend on fielding a 2nds team in 2025.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on December 20, 2024, 01:04:57 PM
What club is that Mick?

As I've said before, the reserve league needs sorting big time.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gael-in-exile on December 20, 2024, 08:51:14 PM
My only experience of similar leagues is in Antrim. They grade 15 although in previous years 2 grades players could play reserve.
Reserves generally had their own league which mirrored senior so St Galls v Cargin in D1 & the same fixture in reserve league.
It tended to work well for a number of years but has changed in the last few due to failures to field so now in some cases reserves play in the league and follow promotion and relegation normally. They do not play in championship though. There are separate reserve championships an A & B depending on what level they are at.

The surprising thing I've gathered here is the 24 graded senior players. Surely there are boys out there who are not getting enough chances to play. They'd be graded senior but not make the team and thus have no outlet - that can't be a good thing surely.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on December 20, 2024, 10:14:48 PM
Quote from: Gael-in-exile on December 20, 2024, 08:51:14 PMMy only experience of similar leagues is in Antrim. They grade 15 although in previous years 2 grades players could play reserve.
Reserves generally had their own league which mirrored senior so St Galls v Cargin in D1 & the same fixture in reserve league.
It tended to work well for a number of years but has changed in the last few due to failures to field so now in some cases reserves play in the league and follow promotion and relegation normally. They do not play in championship though. There are separate reserve championships an A & B depending on what level they are at.

The surprising thing I've gathered here is the 24 graded senior players. Surely there are boys out there who are not getting enough chances to play. They'd be graded senior but not make the team and thus have no outlet - that can't be a good thing surely.
In the example this year of Clann Eireann 5 of those would have been with the county who played little if any league football so in theory working off 19 players would been plenty of football to go around.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gael-in-exile on December 20, 2024, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: statto on December 20, 2024, 10:14:48 PM
Quote from: Gael-in-exile on December 20, 2024, 08:51:14 PMMy only experience of similar leagues is in Antrim. They grade 15 although in previous years 2 grades players could play reserve.
Reserves generally had their own league which mirrored senior so St Galls v Cargin in D1 & the same fixture in reserve league.
It tended to work well for a number of years but has changed in the last few due to failures to field so now in some cases reserves play in the league and follow promotion and relegation normally. They do not play in championship though. There are separate reserve championships an A & B depending on what level they are at.

The surprising thing I've gathered here is the 24 graded senior players. Surely there are boys out there who are not getting enough chances to play. They'd be graded senior but not make the team and thus have no outlet - that can't be a good thing surely.
In the example this year of Clann Eireann 5 of those would have been with the county who played little if any league football so in theory working off 19 players would been plenty of football to go around.

That's a fair enough take on it but if there's a club grading 24 with only 1 or 2 county players then your still leaving 7 or 8 players 'hoping' to get a game week on week.
It could be the reason clubs grade players who are out of the country or long term injured as has been suggested. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on December 20, 2024, 10:47:18 PM
Quote from: Gael-in-exile on December 20, 2024, 10:40:28 PM
Quote from: statto on December 20, 2024, 10:14:48 PM
Quote from: Gael-in-exile on December 20, 2024, 08:51:14 PMMy only experience of similar leagues is in Antrim. They grade 15 although in previous years 2 grades players could play reserve.
Reserves generally had their own league which mirrored senior so St Galls v Cargin in D1 & the same fixture in reserve league.
It tended to work well for a number of years but has changed in the last few due to failures to field so now in some cases reserves play in the league and follow promotion and relegation normally. They do not play in championship though. There are separate reserve championships an A & B depending on what level they are at.

The surprising thing I've gathered here is the 24 graded senior players. Surely there are boys out there who are not getting enough chances to play. They'd be graded senior but not make the team and thus have no outlet - that can't be a good thing surely.
In the example this year of Clann Eireann 5 of those would have been with the county who played little if any league football so in theory working off 19 players would been plenty of football to go around.

That's a fair enough take on it but if there's a club grading 24 with only 1 or 2 county players then your still leaving 7 or 8 players 'hoping' to get a game week on week.
It could be the reason clubs grade players who are out of the country or long term injured as has been suggested. 
I think 24 is a reasonable number to work off if you had no county men, injuries, suspension, a lad maybe away at uni and misses start of league.  I would imagine there's plenty of junior sides working off that number and finding it tough going.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Gael-in-exile on December 20, 2024, 11:35:44 PM
Maybe I'm wrong but are the 24 not restricted to senior only? This would there not be a boy graded who may never start senior but be unable to play reserve, and therefore maybe missing huge amounts of football?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on December 21, 2024, 12:59:30 AM
I personally don't like Lissummon's exact proposal although I do understand their reasons. I do think a junior b championship is a good idea but maybe just creating another championship was the way to go. Something did need to be done for 2025 as there was a possibility for the junior championship to have over 20 teams.
I like the idea of seconds teams and fully support their involvement on league football especially. I'd prefer if they played in the reserve championship, and have always thought this should be the case. It will now become a bit messy with the leagues and championships linked but some teams can't play in the championship etc. I do think in a few years time we'll see a proposal completely banning seconds teams from the junior and intermediate championships. If this happens it should be coupled with a removal of the link between league and championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 23, 2024, 10:29:13 AM
A Junior B Championship is a good idea in principle but making it exclusively for 2nds teams is utter idiocy as is the limit on 3 2nds teams in Junior.  There are one or two junior teams that would struggle against most reserve sides in the county and would be better suited to actually playing teams closer to their level, rather than getting absolutely massacred in the championship (one of the reasons put forward supporting the Lissummon motion). 2nds teams should be allowed to find their level whether that be rooted to the bottom of junior or challenging intermediate teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on December 23, 2024, 10:13:39 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 23, 2024, 10:29:13 AMA Junior B Championship is a good idea in principle but making it exclusively for 2nds teams is utter idiocy as is the limit on 3 2nds teams in Junior.  There are one or two junior teams that would struggle against most reserve sides in the county and would be better suited to actually playing teams closer to their level, rather than getting absolutely massacred in the championship (one of the reasons put forward supporting the Lissummon motion). 2nds teams should be allowed to find their level whether that be rooted to the bottom of junior or challenging intermediate teams.

Have to agree with this
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on December 26, 2024, 11:06:52 PM
I can't say I agree although I do understand the point and can see why many people would have that view. My point of view is that the junior championship should be competed for by junior clubs only, the same applies to intermediate as well.
Other people are of the view that junior level teams should have the opportunity to compete at that level, which is fair enough. If your club has the playing resources to enter two teams into the club championships then I don't blame them. In my opinion however each club should only be able to enter one team into the club championships - if you've the resources for another team then there should be a reserve championship that caters to that - I don't mean the current reserve championship that is just run off on weeknights, but a proper one that runs alongside the senior, intermediate and junior championships. This isn't a view I've formed over the past year or two on the back of CE's success at junior, but something I've always believed. It's just become more relevant in the past few years as more clubs explore the possibility of a second team entering the All County League set up (which I am in favour of btw).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 28, 2024, 01:09:52 PM
Quote from: ranch on December 26, 2024, 11:06:52 PMif you've the resources for another team then there should be a reserve championship that caters to that - I don't mean the current reserve championship that is just run off on weeknights, but a proper one that runs alongside the senior, intermediate and junior championships.
Surely this is what this new Junior B Championship is?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on December 28, 2024, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 28, 2024, 01:09:52 PM
Quote from: ranch on December 26, 2024, 11:06:52 PMif you've the resources for another team then there should be a reserve championship that caters to that - I don't mean the current reserve championship that is just run off on weeknights, but a proper one that runs alongside the senior, intermediate and junior championships.
Surely this is what this new Junior B Championship is?

You know full well that it's far from what I've suggested. A proper reserve championship system for all reserve teams is certainly not what the new junior b will be.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on December 29, 2024, 02:17:11 PM
Quote from: ranch on December 28, 2024, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 28, 2024, 01:09:52 PM
Quote from: ranch on December 26, 2024, 11:06:52 PMif you've the resources for another team then there should be a reserve championship that caters to that - I don't mean the current reserve championship that is just run off on weeknights, but a proper one that runs alongside the senior, intermediate and junior championships.
Surely this is what this new Junior B Championship is?

You know full well that it's far from what I've suggested. A proper reserve championship system for all reserve teams is certainly not what the new junior b will be.
All except three, and what you want isn't really viable either.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on December 31, 2024, 01:36:44 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 29, 2024, 02:17:11 PM
Quote from: ranch on December 28, 2024, 01:41:44 PM
Quote from: general_lee on December 28, 2024, 01:09:52 PM
Quote from: ranch on December 26, 2024, 11:06:52 PMif you've the resources for another team then there should be a reserve championship that caters to that - I don't mean the current reserve championship that is just run off on weeknights, but a proper one that runs alongside the senior, intermediate and junior championships.
Surely this is what this new Junior B Championship is?

You know full well that it's far from what I've suggested. A proper reserve championship system for all reserve teams is certainly not what the new junior b will be.
All except three, and what you want isn't really viable either.

All except three - so definitely not what I suggested. It's not viable because it hasn't been introduced.
Clubs will adapt to whatever system is voted in, that doesn't mean I have to like or agree with the current set up.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on January 02, 2025, 09:33:55 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 19, 2024, 12:45:54 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on December 16, 2024, 11:26:59 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on December 16, 2024, 11:10:59 AMnor is it the fault of the CEs or Cross of this world

No it's not, and yet I see them both doing very well out of the current arrangement.

which isnt a problem


...for Clann Eireann and Cross.

It clearly is though for many of the Junior Teams that came together to put forward this motion at Convention, which is what has prompted this discussion.

To me it is obvious that there needs to be a Reserve League to cater for Reserve Teams, and this issue will surely come to a head over the next 12 / 24 months if these trends persist. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on January 02, 2025, 12:36:23 PM

Does a reserve league provide an adequate programme of games for some fella who wants to train consistently and play football every week?

The same lad can play local soccer or rugby at whatever level is appropriate and be guaranteed a game every Saturday for 8/7 months.

The concept of a reserve league given the fella above 10 or a dozen games across the whole season is a couple of generations out of date. We need to provide that fella and fellas like him a game most weeks across the season the same as every other player.

This is a huge contributor to drop out after minor.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on January 02, 2025, 01:18:35 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on January 02, 2025, 12:36:23 PMDoes a reserve league provide an adequate programme of games for some fella who wants to train consistently and play football every week?

The same lad can play local soccer or rugby at whatever level is appropriate and be guaranteed a game every Saturday for 8/7 months.

The concept of a reserve league given the fella above 10 or a dozen games across the whole season is a couple of generations out of date. We need to provide that fella and fellas like him a game most weeks across the season the same as every other player.

This is a huge contributor to drop out after minor.

A properly run Reserve League will do just that. In my opinion, we as a County up to now haven't been able to do that, but I feel now - given the number of Clubs committing to fielding a second team - that there may be the possibility of a viable / competitive Reserve League of 8 / 9 / 10 teams, that can provide what you have outlined.

To my mind, the Lisummon proposal is a sticking plaster for what is an underlying issue, that is not going to go away. Their proposal - which I have sympathy for - merely kicks the can down the road a bit. I stated that at Convention.

Incidentally, have a look at the nature of some of the disparaging comments made about this issue and the concerns raised by Junior Clubs. It's no wonder many contributors choose to be discreet about their own Club loyalties, on this site.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on January 02, 2025, 01:23:41 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on January 02, 2025, 12:36:23 PMDoes a reserve league provide an adequate programme of games for some fella who wants to train consistently and play football every week?

The same lad can play local soccer or rugby at whatever level is appropriate and be guaranteed a game every Saturday for 8/7 months.

The concept of a reserve league given the fella above 10 or a dozen games across the whole season is a couple of generations out of date. We need to provide that fella and fellas like him a game most weeks across the season the same as every other player.

This is a huge contributor to drop out after minor.
Bit of a chicken and egg thing as well- if there was less drop out after minor, more clubs could enter reserve teams that are of a relatively decent standard, games would be competitive and would help the whole thing.

I think a couple of clubs putting in an amalgamation reserve teams would work. A lot of clubs probably have 8/9 lads who are looking for football but wouldn't have 15 so are maybe pulling men out of the house to make up the numbers or games are being cancelled. If you'd 8/9 lads from 2 clubs who were taking things seriously surely you'd get a decent reserve team?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on January 02, 2025, 02:20:25 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on January 02, 2025, 01:18:35 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on January 02, 2025, 12:36:23 PMDoes a reserve league provide an adequate programme of games for some fella who wants to train consistently and play football every week?

The same lad can play local soccer or rugby at whatever level is appropriate and be guaranteed a game every Saturday for 8/7 months.

The concept of a reserve league given the fella above 10 or a dozen games across the whole season is a couple of generations out of date. We need to provide that fella and fellas like him a game most weeks across the season the same as every other player.

This is a huge contributor to drop out after minor.

A properly run Reserve League will do just that. In my opinion, we as a County up to now haven't been able to do that, but I feel now - given the number of Clubs committing to fielding a second team - that there may be the possibility of a viable / competitive Reserve League of 8 / 9 / 10 teams, that can provide what you have outlined.

To my mind, the Lisummon proposal is a sticking plaster for what is an underlying issue, that is not going to go away. Their proposal - which I have sympathy for - merely kicks the can down the road a bit. I stated that at Convention.

Incidentally, have a look at the nature of some of the disparaging comments made about this issue and the concerns raised by Junior Clubs. It's no wonder many contributors choose to be discreet about their own Club loyalties, on this site.
Lissummons proposal is probably only a stepping stone to the full split, a proper reserve system would need sorted first. Agree that some of the comments here and elsewhere were poor form regarding the struggles of junior clubs.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on January 02, 2025, 08:40:06 PM
Have to agree with Rufus here. The Lissummon proposal is only a sticking plaster and to be fair to them, it did try to include seconds teams to an extent. But the possible addition of another 4 or 5 seconds teams to the junior championship was probably a step too far.
I come from a junior club myself and have consistently stated that I like to see seconds teams enter all county league football a it's giving lads consistent games and keeping them a part of their club. I've always had an issue with them entering the junior championship however as it should be for junior clubs. Seconds teams are reserve teams in all but name and should play in a reserve championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Throw ball on January 02, 2025, 10:01:08 PM
Quote from: ranch on January 02, 2025, 08:40:06 PMHave to agree with Rufus here. The Lissummon proposal is only a sticking plaster and to be fair to them, it did try to include seconds teams to an extent. But the possible addition of another 4 or 5 seconds teams to the junior championship was probably a step too far.
I come from a junior club myself and have consistently stated that I like to see seconds teams enter all county league football a it's giving lads consistent games and keeping them a part of their club. I've always had an issue with them entering the junior championship however as it should be for junior clubs. Seconds teams are reserve teams in all but name and should play in a reserve championship.

I'll have to add I agree completely here. The GAA is a ' for all' organisation. As much as junior clubs deserve a proper target to play for to sustain them bigger clubs need to provide football for as many playing age players as possible. For example would it have been possible for Clann Eireann to have developed so successfully without giving young players the chance to play football past minor? Playing seconds teams in the league with a separate championship seems the most viable option.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on January 02, 2025, 10:30:26 PM
Yeah think I like that option. What about the years Cross are up in intermediate with the seconds team? Clann Eireann wont be going to junior any time soon either.

Do we just leave them in the intermediate championship to keep the numbers right?

The way Clann Eireann are going it honestly isn't ridiculous to think they could either win the 2a league or intermediate championship within the next few years, they beat a decent Keady team this year and beat Pearse Og's who were lot of peoples favourites for the whole thing and 2a league winners.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on January 03, 2025, 04:42:08 AM
The system I'd prefer is as follows:

We've 44 clubs (minus the 5 seconds teams in the setup last year - Cross II, CE II, Killeavy II, Madden II, St Peter's II).
12 clubs in senior, intermediate and junior championship.
8 clubs in junior B.

Senior/intermediate/junior
4 groups of 3 (one home game/one away game). Top 2 into quarter finals. Bottom clubs in senior/intermediate/junior enter relegation playoffs.
There would be no seeding if it was up to me.

Junior B
2 groups of 4-Top teams in group into semi finals. 2nd/3rd place enter quarter finals.

Winner of championships move up a grade to replace the relegated team.

League football
Last season we'd 49 teams, including seconds teams - 4 divisions of 10 and bottom division of 9. Could do a straight 2 up/2 down or introduce play offs, finals etc.
The league system would be unlinked from the championships.

Reserve championship
Seconds teams would be in the Premier reserve championship along with other reserve teams who were deemed strong enough to make up an 8/12 team championship.
Other reserve sides could enter cup, shield and plate competitions (could make the bottom grades 13 a side with roll on/roll off subs if deemed appropriate).
The premier reserve grade would be played at the same time as the main championship grades with its final the curtain raiser to the senior final.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 07:58:15 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on January 02, 2025, 12:36:23 PMDoes a reserve league provide an adequate programme of games for some fella who wants to train consistently and play football every week?

The same lad can play local soccer or rugby at whatever level is appropriate and be guaranteed a game every Saturday for 8/7 months.

The concept of a reserve league given the fella above 10 or a dozen games across the whole season is a couple of generations out of date. We need to provide that fella and fellas like him a game most weeks across the season the same as every other player.

This is a huge contributor to drop out after minor.
The straight forward answer is no it doesn't. What is being proposed by some on here doesn't really solve anything, it just prevents clubs with the resources being able to provide regular, competitive football.

2nds teams have been allowed to enter the league and championship structures for decades and it did zero harm whatsoever. Cross II won it 2002 and CE II 21 years later. Doubt anyone was alive or remembers the win previous? (Or maybe they do).

Reserve football in that same time has been tinkered with and altered and hasn't really provided the desired effect.

Just let 2nds teams enter the leagues and championship structures and let them find their level, like it happens in other counties, instead of creating new competitions, more admin, etc etc
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on January 03, 2025, 08:51:16 AM
Quote from: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 07:58:15 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on January 02, 2025, 12:36:23 PMDoes a reserve league provide an adequate programme of games for some fella who wants to train consistently and play football every week?

The same lad can play local soccer or rugby at whatever level is appropriate and be guaranteed a game every Saturday for 8/7 months.

The concept of a reserve league given the fella above 10 or a dozen games across the whole season is a couple of generations out of date. We need to provide that fella and fellas like him a game most weeks across the season the same as every other player.

This is a huge contributor to drop out after minor.
The straight forward answer is no it doesn't. What is being proposed by some on here doesn't really solve anything, it just prevents clubs with the resources being able to provide regular, competitive football.

2nds teams have been allowed to enter the league and championship structures for decades and it did zero harm whatsoever. Cross II won it 2002 and CE II 21 years later. Doubt anyone was alive or remembers the win previous? (Or maybe they do).

Reserve football in that same time has been tinkered with and altered and hasn't really provided the desired effect.

Just let 2nds teams enter the leagues and championship structures and let them find their level, like it happens in other counties, instead of creating new competitions, more admin, etc etc

That's why I've suggested they be allowed to enter league football if they believe they have the playing resources to sustain that level of commitment. Lissummon's proposal will last a few years before seconds teams are permanently excluded from league football, which would be a shame in my opinion.

Regarding championship football, I've always believed they should play in a reserve championship. I've played in teams that have had success against seconds teams over the years, as well as lost to them, both in league and championship, and my motivation has nothing to do with giving my own club a "better chance" of success. I just believe the junior championship should be for junior level clubs, rather than the reserve side of a senior club.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Ethan Tremblay on January 03, 2025, 08:54:50 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 02, 2025, 10:30:26 PMYeah think I like that option. What about the years Cross are up in intermediate with the seconds team? Clann Eireann wont be going to junior any time soon either.

Do we just leave them in the intermediate championship to keep the numbers right?

The way Clann Eireann are going it honestly isn't ridiculous to think they could either win the 2a league or intermediate championship within the next few years, they beat a decent Keady team this year and beat Pearse Og's who were lot of peoples favourites for the whole thing and 2a league winners.

I'm curious to know how Clann Eireann seconds will go over the next few years.  They seem flush with talent in the senior and junior teams at present but you would expect some of the junior players to move to the senior eventually.  There is a lot of youth coming through of course, which will supplement the seconds, but the pick of the youth would go straight to seniors each year surely?

I've been involved in club football in Armagh for the past 25 years give or take.  At a point in time around the mid 2000's the reserve league/championship was fit for purpose and competitive (I recall Clan na Gael being particularly strong).  For whatever reason, it began to dwindle away.  Unfulfilled fixtures, teams unable to field, referee's not showing up etc.

The reserve system is an afterthought to most clubs to be honest.  Dress it up whatever way you want, the same issues will persist.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on January 03, 2025, 09:19:58 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on January 03, 2025, 08:54:50 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 02, 2025, 10:30:26 PMYeah think I like that option. What about the years Cross are up in intermediate with the seconds team? Clann Eireann wont be going to junior any time soon either.

Do we just leave them in the intermediate championship to keep the numbers right?

The way Clann Eireann are going it honestly isn't ridiculous to think they could either win the 2a league or intermediate championship within the next few years, they beat a decent Keady team this year and beat Pearse Og's who were lot of peoples favourites for the whole thing and 2a league winners.

I'm curious to know how Clann Eireann seconds will go over the next few years.  They seem flush with talent in the senior and junior teams at present but you would expect some of the junior players to move to the senior eventually.  There is a lot of youth coming through of course, which will supplement the seconds, but the pick of the youth would go straight to seniors each year surely?

I've been involved in club football in Armagh for the past 25 years give or take.  At a point in time around the mid 2000's the reserve league/championship was fit for purpose and competitive (I recall Clan na Gael being particularly strong).  For whatever reason, it began to dwindle away.  Unfulfilled fixtures, teams unable to field, referee's not showing up etc.

The reserve system is an afterthought to most clubs to be honest.  Dress it up whatever way you want, the same issues will persist.

Yes we were, with a good few leagues and championships won in that time. That was a bit of perfect storm, with some talented young players with senior aspirations but also some 30+ year olds who had stepped away from Senior football.  The current setup of 2nds teams is fulfilling a different demand now though.  That team of ours would have had little interest in the commitment required to enter into the junior leagues.

The dynamic has changed now.  The volume of players in clubs like CE, Cross etc who want to commit to playing committed and proper competition, is on the rise.

I hope this can be resolved to suit all parties and players arent lost to other sports.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 09:35:49 AM
Quote from: ranch on January 03, 2025, 08:51:16 AM
Quote from: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 07:58:15 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on January 02, 2025, 12:36:23 PMDoes a reserve league provide an adequate programme of games for some fella who wants to train consistently and play football every week?

The same lad can play local soccer or rugby at whatever level is appropriate and be guaranteed a game every Saturday for 8/7 months.

The concept of a reserve league given the fella above 10 or a dozen games across the whole season is a couple of generations out of date. We need to provide that fella and fellas like him a game most weeks across the season the same as every other player.

This is a huge contributor to drop out after minor.
The straight forward answer is no it doesn't. What is being proposed by some on here doesn't really solve anything, it just prevents clubs with the resources being able to provide regular, competitive football.

2nds teams have been allowed to enter the league and championship structures for decades and it did zero harm whatsoever. Cross II won it 2002 and CE II 21 years later. Doubt anyone was alive or remembers the win previous? (Or maybe they do).

Reserve football in that same time has been tinkered with and altered and hasn't really provided the desired effect.

Just let 2nds teams enter the leagues and championship structures and let them find their level, like it happens in other counties, instead of creating new competitions, more admin, etc etc

That's why I've suggested they be allowed to enter league football if they believe they have the playing resources to sustain that level of commitment. Lissummon's proposal will last a few years before seconds teams are permanently excluded from league football, which would be a shame in my opinion.

Regarding championship football, I've always believed they should play in a reserve championship. I've played in teams that have had success against seconds teams over the years, as well as lost to them, both in league and championship, and my motivation has nothing to do with giving my own club a "better chance" of success. I just believe the junior championship should be for junior level clubs, rather than the reserve side of a senior club.

Lissummon's regressive proposal might (in their view) help sustain playing numbers in smaller clubs but will be at the expense of playing numbers in so-called bigger clubs.

I'm sure St Peter's are delighted they took the gamble last year, they're hardly world-beaters at senior level but realised they needed to provide meaningful football for their playing members. To the best of my knowledge their 2nds is ran separate from the seniors and is made up of mainly older players or lads on the fringes who have stepped away from senior football in recent years.

Just because they're members of a senior club doesn't make them senior level players; and players that fall in the above category shouldn't be excluded by virtue of what club they're from. Shoehorning them into some Junior B championship is misguided and does not solve the issue.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 09:58:07 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on January 03, 2025, 08:54:50 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 02, 2025, 10:30:26 PMYeah think I like that option. What about the years Cross are up in intermediate with the seconds team? Clann Eireann wont be going to junior any time soon either.

Do we just leave them in the intermediate championship to keep the numbers right?

The way Clann Eireann are going it honestly isn't ridiculous to think they could either win the 2a league or intermediate championship within the next few years, they beat a decent Keady team this year and beat Pearse Og's who were lot of peoples favourites for the whole thing and 2a league winners.

I'm curious to know how Clann Eireann seconds will go over the next few years.  They seem flush with talent in the senior and junior teams at present but you would expect some of the junior players to move to the senior eventually.  There is a lot of youth coming through of course, which will supplement the seconds, but the pick of the youth would go straight to seniors each year surely?

I've been involved in club football in Armagh for the past 25 years give or take.  At a point in time around the mid 2000's the reserve league/championship was fit for purpose and competitive (I recall Clan na Gael being particularly strong).  For whatever reason, it began to dwindle away.  Unfulfilled fixtures, teams unable to field, referee's not showing up etc.

The reserve system is an afterthought to most clubs to be honest.  Dress it up whatever way you want, the same issues will persist.
With a minor championship winning side to blood, you'd imagine they'll consolidate their intermediate status for another year or two. I think they'll eventually yo-yo between intermediate and junior like Cross II.

Normally clubs will want to expose their best youth to senior football at the earliest opportunity, so one or two from their minor-winning side might be invited straight onto the senior panel.

It's bewildering to think that some people are of the view that some of these players should be limited to only ever playing reserve competitions.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on January 03, 2025, 09:58:39 AM
Quote from: Ethan Tremblay on January 03, 2025, 08:54:50 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 02, 2025, 10:30:26 PMYeah think I like that option. What about the years Cross are up in intermediate with the seconds team? Clann Eireann wont be going to junior any time soon either.

Do we just leave them in the intermediate championship to keep the numbers right?

The way Clann Eireann are going it honestly isn't ridiculous to think they could either win the 2a league or intermediate championship within the next few years, they beat a decent Keady team this year and beat Pearse Og's who were lot of peoples favourites for the whole thing and 2a league winners.

I'm curious to know how Clann Eireann seconds will go over the next few years.  They seem flush with talent in the senior and junior teams at present but you would expect some of the junior players to move to the senior eventually.  There is a lot of youth coming through of course, which will supplement the seconds, but the pick of the youth would go straight to seniors each year surely?

I've been involved in club football in Armagh for the past 25 years give or take.  At a point in time around the mid 2000's the reserve league/championship was fit for purpose and competitive (I recall Clan na Gael being particularly strong).  For whatever reason, it began to dwindle away.  Unfulfilled fixtures, teams unable to field, referee's not showing up etc.

The reserve system is an afterthought to most clubs to be honest.  Dress it up whatever way you want, the same issues will persist.
I'd say unless a lad is exceptional coming out of minors and well developed enough at 18, he'll do a year or 2 with the seconds team? Big step from minors to seniors, especially at 1a level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on January 03, 2025, 10:15:16 AM
Quote from: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 09:35:49 AM
Quote from: ranch on January 03, 2025, 08:51:16 AM
Quote from: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 07:58:15 AM
Quote from: DuffleKing on January 02, 2025, 12:36:23 PMDoes a reserve league provide an adequate programme of games for some fella who wants to train consistently and play football every week?

The same lad can play local soccer or rugby at whatever level is appropriate and be guaranteed a game every Saturday for 8/7 months.

The concept of a reserve league given the fella above 10 or a dozen games across the whole season is a couple of generations out of date. We need to provide that fella and fellas like him a game most weeks across the season the same as every other player.

This is a huge contributor to drop out after minor.
The straight forward answer is no it doesn't. What is being proposed by some on here doesn't really solve anything, it just prevents clubs with the resources being able to provide regular, competitive football.

2nds teams have been allowed to enter the league and championship structures for decades and it did zero harm whatsoever. Cross II won it 2002 and CE II 21 years later. Doubt anyone was alive or remembers the win previous? (Or maybe they do).

Reserve football in that same time has been tinkered with and altered and hasn't really provided the desired effect.

Just let 2nds teams enter the leagues and championship structures and let them find their level, like it happens in other counties, instead of creating new competitions, more admin, etc etc

That's why I've suggested they be allowed to enter league football if they believe they have the playing resources to sustain that level of commitment. Lissummon's proposal will last a few years before seconds teams are permanently excluded from league football, which would be a shame in my opinion.

Regarding championship football, I've always believed they should play in a reserve championship. I've played in teams that have had success against seconds teams over the years, as well as lost to them, both in league and championship, and my motivation has nothing to do with giving my own club a "better chance" of success. I just believe the junior championship should be for junior level clubs, rather than the reserve side of a senior club.

Lissummon's regressive proposal might (in their view) help sustain playing numbers in smaller clubs but will be at the expense of playing numbers in so-called bigger clubs.

I'm sure St Peter's are delighted they took the gamble last year, they're hardly world-beaters at senior level but realised they needed to provide meaningful football for their playing members. To the best of my knowledge their 2nds is ran separate from the seniors and is made up of mainly older players or lads on the fringes who have stepped away from senior football in recent years.

Just because they're members of a senior club doesn't make them senior level players; and players that fall in the above category shouldn't be excluded by virtue of what club they're from. Shoehorning them into some Junior B championship is misguided and does not solve the issue.

That's why they play in what is essentially a reserve team, and what would be a reserve championship.

I agree with you on the current proposal for a junior b championship, it won't work longer term.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 10:25:06 AM
Quote from: ranch on January 03, 2025, 10:15:16 AMThat's why they play in what is essentially a reserve team, and what would be a reserve championship.
And restricted to only ever playing reserve football, despite having the ability to play at a higher level.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on January 03, 2025, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 10:25:06 AM
Quote from: ranch on January 03, 2025, 10:15:16 AMThat's why they play in what is essentially a reserve team, and what would be a reserve championship.
And restricted to only ever playing reserve football, despite having the ability to play at a higher level.

Far from it. They'd be playing league football in the all county league system, if their club chose that route. This would be a route to playing in as high a division as possible.  Championship would be reserve however as they're reserve teams.

If they have the ability to play at a higher level then they might find their way on to their club's senior team. Surely that would be the aim for some of them at least.

As for the junior championship being a higher level than a properly run reserve championship, that would be debatable.  Both championships would have strong teams, but also weaker ones as well.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on January 03, 2025, 11:35:27 AM
Quote from: ranch on January 03, 2025, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 10:25:06 AM
Quote from: ranch on January 03, 2025, 10:15:16 AMThat's why they play in what is essentially a reserve team, and what would be a reserve championship.
And restricted to only ever playing reserve football, despite having the ability to play at a higher level.

Far from it. They'd be playing league football in the all county league system, if their club chose that route. This would be a route to playing in as high a division as possible.  Championship would be reserve however as they're reserve teams.

If they have the ability to play at a higher level then they might find their way on to their club's senior team. Surely that would be the aim for some of them at least.

As for the junior championship being a higher level than a properly run reserve championship, that would be debatable.  Both championships would have strong teams, but also weaker ones as well.
Not sure where I land on this whole thing to be honest, dont know if there is a perfect solution or not and any suggestions you can make an argument against them, but thinking that allowing seconds teams into the all county league and putting them into a separate reserve championship is the best one.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 11:42:18 AM
Quote from: ranch on January 03, 2025, 10:54:45 AM
Quote from: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 10:25:06 AM
Quote from: ranch on January 03, 2025, 10:15:16 AMThat's why they play in what is essentially a reserve team, and what would be a reserve championship.
And restricted to only ever playing reserve football, despite having the ability to play at a higher level.

Far from it. They'd be playing league football in the all county league system, if their club chose that route. This would be a route to playing in as high a division as possible.  Championship would be reserve however as they're reserve teams.

If they have the ability to play at a higher level then they might find their way on to their club's senior team. Surely that would be the aim for some of them at least.

As for the junior championship being a higher level than a properly run reserve championship, that would be debatable.  Both championships would have strong teams, but also weaker ones as well.
Aye, individuals might experience senior football at some stage in their careers but then again they might not - either way that's irrelevant. I fail to see the point in allowing 2nd teams to find their level in the league but then banning them from doing the same at championship level. All a bit nonsensical to me.

It is academic at this stage, hopefully clubs 2nds reap the benefits of playing league football and make the most of their circumstances.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on January 03, 2025, 12:58:07 PM

Some good discussion here but i'll repeat again that thinking the Reserve league and championship is sufficient to provide regular football for lads who want to train and play consistently is miles out of date.

Society has changed and so has our obligations to playing members who pay their membership the same as the perceived best players in a particular club.

Going forward it may be more leagues and more championships if second teams are added and you play at the level your team demonstrates it's capable of through promotion and relegation.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on January 03, 2025, 01:20:00 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on January 03, 2025, 12:58:07 PMSome good discussion here but i'll repeat again that thinking the Reserve league and championship is sufficient to provide regular football for lads who want to train and play consistently is miles out of date.


But this is a very fluid situation, and the nature of the changes that have taken place in recent weeks means that what once would have been deemed unrealistic in terms of providing football to all (a Reserve League), could actually very soon become once again a meaningful option. If we have 8 / 9 / 10 Reserve Teams being put forward for the All County league, then why can there not be an All County Reserve League? 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 01:49:43 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on January 03, 2025, 12:58:07 PMGoing forward it may be more leagues and more championships if second teams are added and you play at the level your team demonstrates it's capable of through promotion and relegation.
That would make far too much sense. A Division 4/Junior B championship for any increase in teams. Allow promotion/relegation for all teams. Ah well.

Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on January 03, 2025, 01:20:00 PMIf we have 8 / 9 / 10 Reserve Teams being put forward for the All County league, then why can there not be an All County Reserve League? 
I've already made this point, it's a fairly basic principle and CE and Cross have demonstrated it: if clubs' 2nds teams are good enough to reach intermediate semifinals and compete at intermediate level, they should be allowed to and not perennially confined to a 10 team reserve league/championship on the basis that they're not a first team. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: DuffleKing on January 03, 2025, 01:54:25 PM
It would need to be something different for a variety of reasons.

One is that lads who don't play senior football Friday can play Reserves the next Wednesday - you're depriving lads of football with that.
Another is that Wednesday night matches are not a runner for big parts of the season for lads working in Dublin, Belfast, etc. and the nature of midweek games means there is nothing for those lads at the weekend then.

All able to be sorted but not if we're stuck with what we think of as the Reserve League.

All of this complicates things when it's not complicated at all. Just create divisions - like the Ulster Rugby club leagues for example - and teams find their level. Play and compete at your level. Gerrymandering divisions and structures to pander to people's ego sensitivities is bananas.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on January 03, 2025, 02:43:33 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on January 03, 2025, 01:54:25 PMIt would need to be something different for a variety of reasons.

One is that lads who don't play senior football Friday can play Reserves the next Wednesday - you're depriving lads of football with that.
Another is that Wednesday night matches are not a runner for big parts of the season for lads working in Dublin, Belfast, etc. and the nature of midweek games means there is nothing for those lads at the weekend then.

All able to be sorted but not if we're stuck with what we think of as the Reserve League.

All of this complicates things when it's not complicated at all. Just create divisions - like the Ulster Rugby club leagues for example - and teams find their level. Play and compete at your level. Gerrymandering divisions and structures to pander to people's ego sensitivities is bananas.
Is looking at having 10/11 named players who can't play reserves a way of helping? 15 players are automatically ruled out under current eligibility rules which is why smaller clubs have struggled to fulfil games.  That and the Wednesday/Friday turnaround. Maghery, for example, senior county champions twice in last 10 years are amalgamated at quite a few underage groups so playing numbers in longer run will be impacted.   Armaghs success last year will hopefully improve playing numbers over a longer period of time. 

Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Rufus T Firefly on January 03, 2025, 05:27:55 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 03, 2025, 01:49:43 PM
Quote from: Rufus T Firefly on January 03, 2025, 01:20:00 PMIf we have 8 / 9 / 10 Reserve Teams being put forward for the All County league, then why can there not be an All County Reserve League? 
I've already made this point, it's a fairly basic principle and CE and Cross have demonstrated it: if clubs' 2nds teams are good enough to reach intermediate semifinals and compete at intermediate level, they should be allowed to and not perennially confined to a 10 team reserve league/championship on the basis that they're not a first team. 

Who is to say that their presence in a Reserve League won't be the catalyst for improvement across Reserve football overall which in turn could lead to more Clubs putting in teams and possibly a two tier Reserve League in the future?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on January 03, 2025, 05:36:17 PM
My club is Clann Eireann. I'm a bit biased but I don't see a reason to change it as it is.
As it happens, I won a reserve championship, of B as it was back then, many years ago and enjoyed it. Had I had the chance to play in the junior league and championship, I would have bit your arm off for it. People saying a junior championship doesn't mean that much to a senior club are mistaken.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on January 03, 2025, 09:29:39 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on January 03, 2025, 05:36:17 PMMy club is Clann Eireann. I'm a bit biased but I don't see a reason to change it as it is.
As it happens, I won a reserve championship, of B as it was back then, many years ago and enjoyed it. Had I had the chance to play in the junior league and championship, I would have bit your arm off for it. People saying a junior championship doesn't mean that much to a senior club are mistaken.

There had to be a change given there was talk of an additional 4 or 5 seconds teams entering the league and championship. The junior championship already had 17 teams last year, increasing that to 20+ teams would be ridiculous. Lissummon's proposal wouldn't be the change I'd have opted for, but it was passed fair and square. For as long as we link the leagues and championship structures, then the addition of a junior B championship for the teams in the junior B league might have been a better solution than the convoluted one we've ended up with.

I take your point about junior championship success meaning something to a senior club, but your sentence makes my point for me i.e. a senior club competing in a junior championship. A reserve championship that caters for reserve teams is the logical solution.
I've no doubt the lads who win a junior championship are delighted when it happens, but there's no way it means as much to Cross or Clann Eireann as a club to win a junior championship, in comparison to Clady, Mullabrack or Corrinshego.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on January 03, 2025, 10:47:21 PM
Quote from: ranch on January 03, 2025, 09:29:39 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on January 03, 2025, 05:36:17 PMMy club is Clann Eireann. I'm a bit biased but I don't see a reason to change it as it is.
As it happens, I won a reserve championship, of B as it was back then, many years ago and enjoyed it. Had I had the chance to play in the junior league and championship, I would have bit your arm off for it. People saying a junior championship doesn't mean that much to a senior club are mistaken.

There had to be a change given there was talk of an additional 4 or 5 seconds teams entering the league and championship. The junior championship already had 17 teams last year, increasing that to 20+ teams would be ridiculous. Lissummon's proposal wouldn't be the change I'd have opted for, but it was passed fair and square. For as long as we link the leagues and championship structures, then the addition of a junior B championship for the teams in the junior B league might have been a better solution than the convoluted one we've ended up with.

I take your point about junior championship success meaning something to a senior club, but your sentence makes my point for me i.e. a senior club competing in a junior championship. A reserve championship that caters for reserve teams is the logical solution.
I've no doubt the lads who win a junior championship are delighted when it happens, but there's no way it means as much to Cross or Clann Eireann as a club to win a junior championship, in comparison to Clady, Mullabrack or Corrinshego.

CE are a senior club. CE seconds aren't a senior team
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on January 04, 2025, 12:30:11 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on January 03, 2025, 10:47:21 PM
Quote from: ranch on January 03, 2025, 09:29:39 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on January 03, 2025, 05:36:17 PMMy club is Clann Eireann. I'm a bit biased but I don't see a reason to change it as it is.
As it happens, I won a reserve championship, of B as it was back then, many years ago and enjoyed it. Had I had the chance to play in the junior league and championship, I would have bit your arm off for it. People saying a junior championship doesn't mean that much to a senior club are mistaken.

There had to be a change given there was talk of an additional 4 or 5 seconds teams entering the league and championship. The junior championship already had 17 teams last year, increasing that to 20+ teams would be ridiculous. Lissummon's proposal wouldn't be the change I'd have opted for, but it was passed fair and square. For as long as we link the leagues and championship structures, then the addition of a junior B championship for the teams in the junior B league might have been a better solution than the convoluted one we've ended up with.

I take your point about junior championship success meaning something to a senior club, but your sentence makes my point for me i.e. a senior club competing in a junior championship. A reserve championship that caters for reserve teams is the logical solution.
I've no doubt the lads who win a junior championship are delighted when it happens, but there's no way it means as much to Cross or Clann Eireann as a club to win a junior championship, in comparison to Clady, Mullabrack or Corrinshego.

CE are a senior club. CE seconds aren't a senior team

Yes, they're the reserve team of a senior club. Junior championship in my opinion should be for junior clubs and reserve championship for reserve teams. I don't blame the clubs who enter seconds teams by the way. The rules are there and clear for everybody.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on January 04, 2025, 09:23:30 AM
They're an intermediate team. Why should they be forced to play in a reserve leave which, as things stand, they would be much too good for
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on January 04, 2025, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on January 04, 2025, 09:23:30 AMThey're an intermediate team. Why should they be forced to play in a reserve leave which, as things stand, they would be much too good for

I don't want them to play in a reserve league. If you read my comments on this topic I've always advocated for seconds teams being able to play in the All County League set up if that's what their club wants to do.
I've said they should play in a revamped reserve championship as they are reserve teams. Whether they play intermediate at present, or not, they're still a reserve team. My reference to the junior championship was not CE specific, obviously.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: tonto1888 on January 04, 2025, 02:28:53 PM
Quote from: ranch on January 04, 2025, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on January 04, 2025, 09:23:30 AMThey're an intermediate team. Why should they be forced to play in a reserve leave which, as things stand, they would be much too good for

I don't want them to play in a reserve league. If you read my comments on this topic I've always advocated for seconds teams being able to play in the All County League set up if that's what their club wants to do.
I've said they should play in a revamped reserve championship as they are reserve teams. Whether they play intermediate at present, or not, they're still a reserve team. My reference to the junior championship was not CE specific, obviously.

I know you're not having a go at CE. But if they played a reserve championship where is the scope for improvement? Win the reserve championship year in year out? I hate does that achieve? I can see where the junior teams are coming from but let's be honest, it's not CE or cross who have been stopping teams like Lissummon or whoever from winning junior championships
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on January 04, 2025, 04:12:23 PM
Let's be honest, if CE or Cross were able to field a 2nds team capable of challenging at senior level you'd still have people saying they should play in a "reserve team only" championship. (I know the above scenario may not be permissible under current rules but you get the gist).
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on January 04, 2025, 04:51:52 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 04, 2025, 04:12:23 PMLet's be honest, if CE or Cross were able to field a 2nds team capable of challenging at senior level you'd still have people saying they should play in a "reserve team only" championship. (I know the above scenario may not be permissible under current rules but you get the gist).
Give CE a couple of years and they will have that problem lol
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on January 04, 2025, 08:34:56 PM
Quote from: general_lee on January 04, 2025, 04:12:23 PMLet's be honest, if CE or Cross were able to field a 2nds team capable of challenging at senior level you'd still have people saying they should play in a "reserve team only" championship. (I know the above scenario may not be permissible under current rules but you get the gist).

It wouldn't change my view. If I currently don't want them competing in the junior or intermediate then I certainly wouldn't want a reserve team competing in the senior championship.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: ranch on January 05, 2025, 04:55:22 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on January 04, 2025, 02:28:53 PM
Quote from: ranch on January 04, 2025, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: tonto1888 on January 04, 2025, 09:23:30 AMThey're an intermediate team. Why should they be forced to play in a reserve leave which, as things stand, they would be much too good for

I don't want them to play in a reserve league. If you read my comments on this topic I've always advocated for seconds teams being able to play in the All County League set up if that's what their club wants to do.
I've said they should play in a revamped reserve championship as they are reserve teams. Whether they play intermediate at present, or not, they're still a reserve team. My reference to the junior championship was not CE specific, obviously.

I know you're not having a go at CE. But if they played a reserve championship where is the scope for improvement? Win the reserve championship year in year out? I hate does that achieve? I can see where the junior teams are coming from but let's be honest, it's not CE or cross who have been stopping teams like Lissummon or whoever from winning junior championships

In fairness to Lissummon, and as much as I disagree with the exact proposal they came up with, they haven't completely stopped seconds teams from competing in the junior championship. I'm sure if they pushed to do so they would have got some support from numerous other clubs.
I also don't think junior clubs are blaming seconds teams for any lack of success they may have had. Lissummon's proposal was an attempt to limit the junior championship to a reasonable number of teams given the rumours of the possible addition of 4 or 5 new seconds teams.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Mick Bustin on January 17, 2025, 10:41:43 AM
Has there been any confirmation of 2nd teams for 2025 season then?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Splash on February 01, 2025, 10:09:56 AM
Hurlers start their league campaign away to Roscommon tomorrow. No two ways about it- it'll be a tough game. Roscommon are a team Armagh have struggled with in recent years.

Armagh should be hoping to get promoted to Div 2 this year, but it could be tricky. They could easily find themselves in Div 4, either.

Will be an interesting year.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: on the sideline on February 04, 2025, 11:21:17 PM
When does the Armagh club season start?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: statto on February 05, 2025, 08:40:54 AM
Quote from: on the sideline on February 04, 2025, 11:21:17 PMWhen does the Armagh club season start?
30th March or 6th April at a guess. 
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Splash on February 10, 2025, 10:34:47 AM
Tough day for the hurlers against Wicklow yesterday. There were times Armagh seemed like they might kick on, but Wicklow were just superior.

A lot of potential for Armagh to be performing at a higher level than they are currently. I wonder what has to be done for them to do so?
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: on the sideline on February 15, 2025, 08:55:25 PM
Quote from: statto on February 05, 2025, 08:40:54 AM
Quote from: on the sideline on February 04, 2025, 11:21:17 PMWhen does the Armagh club season start?
30th March or 6th April at a guess. 

Thanks
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on April 09, 2025, 10:12:45 AM
All quiet on here, expecting a fairly straight forward victory on Saturday. A mention to the U20s who play tonight, are they playing for pride or can they still progress?  

The club leagues underway and I don't see anyone challenging Clann Éireann this year. Provided they keep everyone available and injury free, they're still a level above the chasing pack.

I did think the new rules would really suit a team like Cross but I see they succumbed to a 5 pt home defeat on Sunday!
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: lurganblue on April 09, 2025, 10:37:46 AM
Quote from: general_lee on April 09, 2025, 10:12:45 AMAll quiet on here, expecting a fairly straight forward victory on Saturday. A mention to the U20s who play tonight, are they playing for pride or can they still progress?   

The club leagues underway and I don't see anyone challenging Clann Éireann this year. Provided they keep everyone available and injury free, they're still a level above the chasing pack.

I did think the new rules would really suit a team like Cross but I see they succumbed to a 5 pt home defeat on Sunday!

Will be a decent big crowd at Davitt park this Sunday.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on June 05, 2025, 12:07:33 PM
Any thoughts on the leagues so far at the half way stage? No real surprises so far in 1A or 1B, although Culloville have kicked on a bit from last year and fair play if they go top this weekend.

2A is always a minefield - two things that stick out for me is how well Tullysaran are doing and how badly a team like Ballymacnab are struggling. Have Tullysaran played senior before? 2B is a 3 horse race and Collegeland as good as down.

An Port Mór are the standout team in 3A with their big transfer shooting the lights out. The wheels have badly come off at St Peter's II. 3B is going according to script so far - four of the five top teams are all IIs teams bar Newtown and it likely be two II teams getting promoted.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on June 05, 2025, 12:35:06 PM
The big money signing for Blackwater is injured for the year, achilles I think.

The nab dont seem to be going great but they've had a rake of retirements, boys in Australia and then Gurgan moving to Galway is a big loss.

I think Tullysaran won a junior about 10 years ago and then were narrowly beaten in the intermediate final the year after,  been one of the stronger teams in intermediate since but haven't got their championship win yet.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: general_lee on June 05, 2025, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 05, 2025, 12:35:06 PMThe big money signing for Blackwater is injured for the year, achilles I think.

The nab dont seem to be going great but they've had a rake of retirements, boys in Australia and then Gurgan moving to Galway is a big loss.

I think Tullysaran won a junior about 10 years ago and then were narrowly beaten in the intermediate final the year after,  been one of the stronger teams in intermediate since but haven't got their championship win yet.
Hadn't realised he was out for the year, brilliant footballer too good for that level anyway. Tullysaran have been knocking around but I thought they'd have missed their chance by now.
Title: Re: Armagh Club football & hurling
Post by: Armagh18 on June 05, 2025, 02:18:56 PM
Quote from: general_lee on June 05, 2025, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on June 05, 2025, 12:35:06 PMThe big money signing for Blackwater is injured for the year, achilles I think.

The nab dont seem to be going great but they've had a rake of retirements, boys in Australia and then Gurgan moving to Galway is a big loss.

I think Tullysaran won a junior about 10 years ago and then were narrowly beaten in the intermediate final the year after,  been one of the stronger teams in intermediate since but haven't got their championship win yet.
Hadn't realised he was out for the year, brilliant footballer too good for that level anyway. Tullysaran have been knocking around but I thought they'd have missed their chance by now.
Achilles i think, far too good for junior surely.

Haven't seen Tullysaran but they seem to be going well.
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